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StreamFlyer
02-12-24, 10:22
Hello, newbie here. I'm deciding to make my first trip out to HK to get some Chinese food.
Upon doing some research, I heard that the room management will come knocking on your door if your Chicka goes past her 30-min mark in your room, even if you have the room for the night. I guess they demanded for the person to buy $50 in drinks for 30 more minutes, for $100 for the hour.
For someone who has been recently, can anyone confirm? It sounds a bit unfair that they come knocking on your door after the 30 minutes even if the girl doesn't mind staying longer.
TIA.
AmericanPi
02-12-24, 16:17
One pattern that I've seen over and over, that has rang true, were that the chicas who had a frustrated, almost beat down look in their eye when they approached me as soon as I walk in to hk (as if their look said: "you're going to pass me over too "). Have *all* been great in the cama. Best looking? No. Fun?, fook yeah.One thing I do, and I'm ashamed sharing this but it's anonymous here so what the hell. When I'm assessing a girl I ask her what is it going to be like when we go up. And then I basically tell her how I expect her to be, essentially extracting commitments on her demeanor (and obviously sexual experience to be had). I've done it enough times that I know what I'm requiring. The last thing I want is a starfish who realizes she's getting her buck twenty either way once you've tipped the robe guy. All negotiating, even down to the demeanor I expect from her, must be done before the words ok let's go up escape your mouth. Once you utter those words the power balance shifts. Before you utter those words you can just shamelessly describe your expectations. Some girls do the sour look like they're telling me you're getting pussy not an actress. And I take that as a win, because that's almost certainly a girl who'd be a disengaged sourpuss in the room.
Captain Solo
02-12-24, 16:42
Keto talks about waves potential and particles. He's potentially a real professor of Physics at Cal Tech!
If the girls allow you to kiss mouth, finger snatch in the club, they would go all out in bed, works for me 100%. Girls who resist always turn into angry girls in bed.
Sometimes I had to have my hand inside their panties while the damn particulate meseros hovered over and watched, just to make sure I would not waste my time and money on a dead, cold, stiff corpse with stinky pussies in the HK morgue.
A lot of discussion on trying to navigate around HK's deteriorating level of service, with rabid meseros and drink charges, etc.
I think the goal should somehow be to avoid sitting with any chica, if its possible that is. Just hang out on your own, with one drink to sip on for a half hour. Just take her up if one approaches you.
In the first minute. (it's usually exactly at the sixty-one second mark that the mesero materializes from the wave potential of matter, to particle in front of you).
Flawless Zeal
02-12-24, 20:45
I basically tell her how I expect her to be,I'll bite -- what do you tell her your expectations are?
BrotherMouzone
02-12-24, 22:02
One thing I do, and I'm ashamed sharing this but it's anonymous here so what the hell. When I'm assessing a girl I ask her what is it going to be like when we go up. And then I basically tell her how I expect her to be, essentially extracting commitments on her demeanor (and obviously sexual experience to be had). I've done it enough times that I know what I'm requiring. The last thing I want is a starfish who realizes she's getting her buck twenty either way once you've tipped the robe guy. All negotiating, even down to the demeanor I expect from her, must be done before the words ok let's go up escape your mouth. Once you utter those words the power balance shifts. Before you utter those words you can just shamelessly describe your expectations. Some girls do the sour look like they're telling me you're getting pussy not an actress. And I take that as a win, because that's almost certainly a girl who'd be a disengaged sourpuss in the room.While I don't do that myself, I don't see anything to be ashamed about or otherwise wrong with setting expectations. Though maybe the "demeanor" thing is a bit much, either the chica will be into it or she won't be. I'm never going to ask her to be fake about it, LOL. At least for me it comes off as a bit demanding / controlling, but to each his own.
I suppose I take a more passive approach. Generally sit or stand near the bar and wait for chicas to approach me. Obviously it's not always the case but the chicas willing to approach you are generally a bit more likely to be "engaged" during arriba. More often than not I also buy chicas who approach me that I think I might be interested in a drink or two to further evaluate, during which you can often get at least a decent read on how good they will be in the room.
BigButtDetecto
02-13-24, 03:26
I spent the whole afternoon and evening I hgkg yesterday, Sunday. The game was endless and all the gringos were packing the club sitting on their butt for hours. There were plenty of girls available but the guys were glued to the screens. I asked one or 2 girls their rates; it was $ 150 plus $ 40 for the room; I said fuck that; and then I took a spinner in the privado for 20 minutes; it was great and cost me only $50 + $10 tip.
The problem is that since adelita's shut down, hkg do what exagerated prices they want; no real competitor.
Baxter Slade
02-13-24, 04:09
While I'm no fan of HK, its about the only place to hangout on a Sunday morning. As it got closer to noon the girls were flowing in, they even started to outnumber meseros and customers. I would never dream of taking an HK girl up due to the inflated prices. When a nice looking chica approached, I did get that she could be fun vibe I bought her a drink (confirmed fichas are $11 now). When the conversation turned to the vrooom, I asked what about a bee j only? I was a bit surprised when she said 50 . Never heard that one for under 100 for a trip to the room. I said lets go and she was great, took her time and didn't ask for payment upfront. Finally an intelligent HK chica who realized sometimes its not worth it to just stand around not making anything.
Hello, newbie here. I'm deciding to make my first trip out to HK to get some Chinese food.
Upon doing some research, I heard that the room management will come knocking on your door if your Chicka goes past her 30-min mark in your room, even if you have the room for the night. I guess they demanded for the person to buy $50 in drinks for 30 more minutes, for $100 for the hour.
For someone who has been recently, can anyone confirm? It sounds a bit unfair that they come knocking on your door after the 30 minutes even if the girl doesn't mind staying longer.
TIA.
If you get an HK girl during her working hours you can get them to stay 60 minutes in your room. Sometimes they do it on their own because they don't mind hanging out with you, with others you might have to negotiate to get that extra 30 minutes. But if you have your own room you're not going to get a knock until the 60 minute mark. I have been able to get up to 90 minutes due to either the girl not caring or the employees in charge of knocking on the doors are slacking off. Most times you will get the knock at the 60 minute mark though. Alternatively you can get an extra 30 minutes on top of your 60 minutes if you order a $50 bucket. You might have to tip the girl extra if she’s looking to get compensated for the extra time as well.
If you want a girl to stay longer than that you're going to have to get her to visit you on her day off or see her at another hotel.
One thing I do, and I'm ashamed sharing this but it's anonymous here so what the hell. When I'm assessing a girl I ask her what is it going to be like when we go up. And then I basically tell her how I expect her to be, essentially extracting commitments on her demeanor (and obviously sexual experience to be had). I've done it enough times that I know what I'm requiring. The last thing I want is a starfish who realizes she's getting her buck twenty either way once you've tipped the robe guy. All negotiating, even down to the demeanor I expect from her, must be done before the words ok let's go up escape your mouth. Once you utter those words the power balance shifts. Before you utter those words you can just shamelessly describe your expectations. Some girls do the sour look like they're telling me you're getting pussy not an actress. And I take that as a win, because that's almost certainly a girl who'd be a disengaged sourpuss in the room.Part I: The Club.
This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.
Instead, what I do is study the girls beforehand. I might need to see a girl 2 or 3 times at the club on previous visits before I make my move. I watch how they interact with other girls, other guys, and their demeanor in general. I also try to visit the club consistently enough that my presence is known to the girls, and they know that can't mess with me because I'll be coming back next week. Also, if they know you're a regular, they might see you as a source of potential steady income, which also gives you an advantage. HK belongs to me, not to them. It's my house, and they are just passing through. This is the attitude you have to take. Of course, I realize you can't do this if you just visit once in a while.
I don't like to make my approach too early in the evening. I find that the girls get more relaxed (and the waiters also) later in their shift. I don't care about being a girls first customer, or getting her when she is fresh. In fact, I like it when I will be her only of the evening, or at least her last. I also don't like to approach girls when the club is too crowded. I like it when it's the early hours of the morning and it has died down a bit. That's when the fun really begins.
I always go alone (except when I've gone with girlfriends from Tijuana). Other dudes would just get in the way and slow me down. I'm there to meet women, not dudes. There are many places in Tijuana to party and get drunk, so It's not my thing to do that in HK.
I try to look for newer girls. This is the one sport where amateurs are always better than pros. I like them skinny with a natural body. No plastic. Not too tiny. Not too much of a doll face. I like girls that are "off-pretty" in the face, or that have a face that has character. I have a thing against girls wearing glasses. These girls either want to be "taken seriously" or "create a barrier" (or they are a lesbian). None of these is a good thing. I don't like girls that wear to much: again, creating a barrier. I don't mind a few tats, but if you are covered in tats, that's a big red flag. I don't like girls that look mean. A lot of these girls walk around pouting the whole night, looking like death warmed over. Even if they are hot, these types are just not approachable, IMO. A girl needs to show some warmth, and look like she is at least having a little bit of fun. I like them maybe a little bit shy, not overly confident. I look for traits that indicate she will be more submissive and willing in the room.
At some point I will just approach a girl and ask her if she want's to come join me at a table. I never ask a waiter to call a girl over. In fact, I avoid waiters whenever possible. Mostly, I just roam the club during the course of the evening. I rarely even sit down because I don't like being approached by either waiters or girls (its just not in a young attractive woman's DNA to approach any male, so you tend to get the older, desperate ones coming up to you! I might sit down later when the club cools down a bit and there are more empty seats.
I like to sit with the girls near the back where it's more chill. I don't like the areas near the main stage where the show-offs are buying their 10 bottles of overpriced Patron. I usually have just a few drinks with a girl before deciding whether to go to the room. I feel like, if you want to socialize with her all night, you should just get her number and ask her to do something with you outside the club. If she speaks English too well, she's been working there to long. If her voice is too deep or sounds haggard, she's been working there too long. If she's too pushy, it's off. If she seems nice and humble, it's on. I speak a little Spanish, or at least can understand what they say. I try to keep the topics upbeat. I like to find out a little about their lives. If they are from Tijuana, what they do for fun, etc. One side note: In my years of coming to Tijuana, I have noticed a curious difference between Mexican girls and American girls, Mexican girls NEVER ask what you do for a living! At least not until they have known you a little bit. But it's never part of the opening conversation. You go to an American club and the first words out of a girl's mouth are, "so what do you do?" Like, I need to know your socio-economic level right away so I don't waste time with you. The attitude in the US is that a man's life is his job-kind of lame if you ask me.
I don't necessarily try to grope the girls, or kiss them. I find that that really isn't a good indicator of what is too come. If I'm getting good signals, I will invite them to come with me to the room. I don't ask the price, nor do I say what I will pay. It's Ok if they quote a price at that time, unless it is too high, then I might balk or might say I only have this much. What I have found though, is that the girls, a lot of time, will just go with no mention of price. What I'm about to say may sound arrogant, but I can attest that it is true. If you are a decent looking white guy, intelligent, but not a nerd, you can pretty much run the table with these girls. For a lot of these girls, it's an ego boost for them to be with you. Because you are perceived as both high status and exotic, it's like a natural aphrodisiac for these women. So I have found that majority of the girls want to have sex anyway, and I kind of view any money exchanged as simply the social lubricant that makes nature take its course faster.
Part II: The Room (coming soon).
AmericanPi
02-14-24, 15:27
Part I: The Club.
This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.
Instead, what I do is study the girls beforehand. I might need to see a girl 2 or 3 times at the club on previous visits before I make my move. I watch how they interact with other girls, other guys, and their demeanor in general. I also try to visit the club consistently enough that my presence is known to the girls, and they know that can't mess with me because I'll be coming back next week. Also, if they know you're a regular, they might see you as a source of potential steady income, which also gives you an advantage. HK belongs to me, not to them. It's my house, and they are just passing through. This is the attitude you have to take. Of course, I realize you can't do this if you just visit once in a while.Dawg. Your message. Your handle / screen name. Your process no doubt works great but most people cannot be a presence at HK nearly as much as you seem to be able to. Honestly I wouldn't want to but to each his own. Every time I go to HK I feel like how you feel about Vegas. It's fun for a while but it gets old fast. But 3-6 months later I want to go again. How often are you there?
ABAJoeSmith123
02-14-24, 22:08
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While I'm no fan of HK, its about the only place to hangout on a Sunday morning. As it got closer to noon the girls were flowing in, they even started to outnumber meseros and customers. I would never dream of taking an HK girl up due to the inflated prices. When a nice looking chica approached, I did get that she could be fun vibe I bought her a drink (confirmed fichas are $11 now). When the conversation turned to the vrooom, I asked what about a bee j only? I was a bit surprised when she said 50 . Never heard that one for under 100 for a trip to the room. I said lets go and she was great, took her time and didn't ask for payment upfront. Finally an intelligent HK chica who realized sometimes its not worth it to just stand around not making anything.
CBJ, I'm assuming? Even still, not bad for a bar girl I guess.
Edit: I just read HKMonger’s post. If you have had great success with that approach, then by all means keep doing what works for you. I have to disagree with a couple of your assessments though. While they’re not necessarily my preference, I have came across several tatted up chicas who turn out to be very loving girls. They may not look like it from the exterior but I have found some to be very submissive and giving in bed, providing amazing sessions and GFE’s.
I also disagree that the attractive younger girls will typically not approach you since its not in their nature. I have just as many of the younger ones, Im talking about 19-21 year olds, approach me just as much as any other age group with a good amount of success that has included GFE type services as well. Theyre definitely out there, I can guarantee you that.
I also disagree that the attractive younger girls will typically not approach you since it’s not in their nature. I have just as many of the younger ones, Im talking about 19-21 year olds, approach me just as much as any other age group with a good amount of success that has included GFE type services as well. Theyre definitely out there, I can guarantee you that.Usually the experienced older ones are the ones who go from man to man and solicit their services. An HK monger who stands and wait may not experience the best the place offers. An HK monger moves from flower to flower engage and analyze, fast, and pull. Takes lots of errors to get it right. Pouring money at her doesn't guarantee the best of her service.
I stopped an elegant girl, late 20's, dark, slim, tall, tattoos, one of those confident types who slash their hips side to side like a leopard's tail. She turned to me and smiled, beautiful face and shiny white teeth. As I was about to put a dollar in her bra she swung her open palms as if she wanted to slap me in the face. Like nothing happened she swung around and told me to put more dollars in her clothing. I couldn't let that slide, so I asked her, with dollars in hand, what was that gesture about. She looked at me and said, nada, pushed me back and walked away. WTF!
TerOnlyOnce
02-16-24, 16:30
Part I: The Club.
This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.
Instead, what I do is study the girls beforehand. I might need to see a girl 2 or 3 times at the club on previous visits before I make my move. I watch how they interact with other girls, other guys, and their demeanor in general. I also try to visit the club consistently enough that my presence is known to the girls, and they know that can't mess with me because I'll be coming back next week. Also, if they know you're a regular, they might see you as a source of potential steady income, which also gives you an advantage. HK belongs to me, not to them. It's my house, and they are just passing through. This is the attitude you have to take. Of course, I realize you can't do this if you just visit once in a while.
I don't like to make my approach too early in the evening. I find that the girls get more relaxed (and the waiters also) later in their shift. I don't care about being a girls first customer, or getting her when she is fresh. In fact, I like it when I will be her only of the evening, or at least her last. I also don't like to approach girls when the club is too crowded. I like it when it's the early hours of the morning and it has died down a bit. That's when the fun really begins.
I always go alone (except when I've gone with girlfriends from Tijuana). Other dudes would just get in the way and slow me down. I'm there to meet women, not dudes. There are many places in Tijuana to party and get drunk, so It's not my thing to do that in HK.
I try to look for newer girls. This is the one sport where amateurs are always better than pros. I like them skinny with a natural body. No plastic. Not too tiny. Not too much of a doll face. I like girls that are "off-pretty" in the face, or that have a face that has character. I have a thing against girls wearing glasses. These girls either want to be "taken seriously" or "create a barrier" (or they are a lesbian). None of these is a good thing. I don't like girls that wear to much: again, creating a barrier. I don't mind a few tats, but if you are covered in tats, that's a big red flag. I don't like girls that look mean. A lot of these girls walk around pouting the whole night, looking like death warmed over. Even if they are hot, these types are just not approachable, IMO. A girl needs to show some warmth, and look like she is at least having a little bit of fun. I like them maybe a little bit shy, not overly confident. I look for traits that indicate she will be more submissive and willing in the room..Pretty spot on, looking forward to part 2.
Just a couple of things I'd like to touch on:
1) good mindset, I think all mongers should adopt it. HK belongs to you as a monger, if particular girls are giving you bad service, do not see them. Be selective, don't waste your time or your money. This keeps the quality and service from getting too out of control and turning into a shit show. The west is already garbage when it comes to getting laid with hot women, to turn HK into that is pointless, which is effectively what you will be doing if you start groveling and pandering to HK girls, paying whatever it takes to take them arriba, and having no boundaries for yourself. In short, have some standards, this keeps HK good for everyone.
2) I probably wouldn't need to see a girl at least a few times in the club before I take her to the room, if I see her that night and I am attracted, I would approach and get a drink with her, then start chatting her up and asking specific questions to basically vet her and see if she is submissive and to get an overall feel as to whether I think she will provide good service.
2) I would go alone but I am not opposed to chatting with guys on my down time, mainly other American guys that seem down to earth and cool. The reason for this is to not get bored wandering the club and always on the hunt. Plus there is no fun in being an introverted person in a club the entire time you are there, the club is very much an extroverted environment, so to engage in some chatting if there are opportunities is good practice.
3) as for picking girls I would only go with those that are submissive. Even if a girl looks very attractive, if she gives you push back in conversation during your drink or if you can tell that she is not accepting of your verbal advances of what you would like to do, I would take that as a bad sign and most likely would not take her up to the room.
The main issue is you do not want to take a girl up to the room that turns out to be a bad idea because you did not properly screen her. Therefore I would definitely ask how much the session would be and how long it would be. I wouldn't take a girl up for the standard 20 minute session, 5-10 minutes of sex. That is a waste of time and money. Instead, I would firmly make it clear that I want at least 30-60 minutes or however much time you want. Then settle on the price then and there. I'd also say that I'm only paying at the end, not at the start of the session. This will probably screen out of a lot of girls and cause a good amount of them to walk away. That comes with the territory though if you want to ensure that you get good service. I do not recommend just negotiating a price and then taking her up. Because 10/10 times what will happen is you get to the room, she asks for the money immediately, you pay it, and you get a shitty ass 15 minute service with 10 minutes of actual sex. Waste of money, waste of time. Do not do this, do anything but this LOL.
Besides this, during the drink and chatting in the club I would talk about the stuff I want to do, if she has big tits I may want to titty fuck her so I'll mention that, mention if I could get BBBJ if I want that, tell her what I would like to do to her, like have her bent over or something, idk, whatever I want at the time basically. The point is to see how willing she is when she hears all this stuff. If she seems down and like she wants to do it and please, then that is good. If she doesn't seem interested or right away wants to talk about money or how long the session is, or if she wants to put boundaries or restrictions as you are mentioning what you want, then that's a bad sign and you should walk away.
Getting good service in HK is actually very hard. A lot of girls will not be interested or they will blow themselves out. That is to be expected, not every girl will offer you a good service. Even if she is very hot and is your exact type, I probably still would not take her up to the room if she fails the screening. The reason why is because the risk of getting awful service is just too high. You are supposed to have a good amount of girls failing the screening and being ineligible for you to take up.
TerOnlyOnce
02-16-24, 18:09
While I don't do that myself, I don't see anything to be ashamed about or otherwise wrong with setting expectations. Though maybe the "demeanor" thing is a bit much, either the chica will be into it or she won't be. I'm never going to ask her to be fake about it, LOL. At least for me it comes off as a bit demanding / controlling, but to each his own.
I suppose I take a more passive approach. Generally sit or stand near the bar and wait for chicas to approach me. Obviously it's not always the case but the chicas willing to approach you are generally a bit more likely to be "engaged" during arriba. More often than not I also buy chicas who approach me that I think I might be interested in a drink or two to further evaluate, during which you can often get at least a decent read on how good they will be in the room.I think he is doing good way.
There is no point to take arriba a girl that you approach and she quotes you $140 and declines getting a drink with you.
I think a reality most need to realize is that a good amount of these HK girl are not viable for arriba. So if you spend half your night having to constantly pass on girls for arriba, I would say that is normal and to be expected.
If you are going arriba consistently with the first or second girl you talk to every night you are at HK, you are doing something very very wrong (unless you happen to know that girl already or had good session with her before).
Getting good service in HK is actually very hard. A lot of girls will not be interested or they will blow themselves out. That is to be expected, not every girl will offer you a good service. Even if she is very hot and is your exact type, I probably still would not take her up to the room if she fails the screening. The reason why is because the risk of getting awful service is just too high. You are supposed to have a good amount of girls failing the screening and being ineligible for you to take up.Even with all the careful screening the chance of getting a very bad service and so wasting a hundred dollar for nothing is there. Happened to me this past Wed. We had a good chat, she was my type, smiled a lot, held my hand as we walked out to cross the road to Rizo. Joking, kissing. So the screening seemed to work. When we got to the room the first thing she did was set a timer. I noticed it that and asked her, she said she is required by her employer to do so. 20 minutes in bed without even having the chance to enter her the alarm went off and she sprang up off the bed. Refused any more action and threatened to call security unless she leaves immediately.
My thought is the girl was genuinely nice but she was so new and so concerned about the instructions she was given by HK management no matter I told her how erroneously she understood it. In the end I wasted $$.
AmericanPi
02-17-24, 03:01
Even with all the careful screening the chance of getting a very bad service and so wasting a hundred dollar for nothing is there. Happened to me this past Wed. We had a good chat, she was my type, smiled a lot, held my hand as we walked out to cross the road to Rizo. Joking, kissing. So the screening seemed to work. When we got to the room the first thing she did was set a timer. I noticed it that and asked her, she said she is required by her employer to do so. 20 minutes in bed without even having the chance to enter her the alarm went off and she sprang up off the bed. Refused any more action and threatened to call security unless she leaves immediately.
My thought is the girl was genuinely nice but she was so new and so concerned about the instructions she was given by HK management no matter I told her how erroneously she understood it. In the end I wasted $$.She set an alarm, and threatened to call security, and your interpretation of the situation is that her actions were motivated by desire to assiduously follow the rules? You really don't see that she was holding her breath and just grinding through the required time but not giving an inch more than needed to fulfill her end?
I stopped an elegant girl, late 20's, dark, slim, tall, tattoos, one of those confident types who slash their hips side to side like a leopard's tail. She turned to me and smiled, beautiful face and shiny white teeth. As I was about to put a dollar in her bra she swung her open palms as if she wanted to slap me in the face. Like nothing happened she swung around and told me to put more dollars in her clothing. I couldn't let that slide, so I asked her, with dollars in hand, what was that gesture about. She looked at me and said, nada, pushed me back and walked away. WTF!Don't take it seriously. Take it easy. In Mexico they have a different way of behaving, a different kind of humor. It may be offensive to Americans, but in Mexico it is normal.
TerOnlyOnce
02-17-24, 17:01
Even with all the careful screening the chance of getting a very bad service and so wasting a hundred dollar for nothing is there. Happened to me this past Wed. We had a good chat, she was my type, smiled a lot, held my hand as we walked out to cross the road to Rizo. Joking, kissing. So the screening seemed to work. When we got to the room the first thing she did was set a timer. I noticed it that and asked her, she said she is required by her employer to do so. 20 minutes in bed without even having the chance to enter her the alarm went off and she sprang up off the bed. Refused any more action and threatened to call security unless she leaves immediately.
My thought is the girl was genuinely nice but she was so new and so concerned about the instructions she was given by HK management no matter I told her how erroneously she understood it. In the end I wasted $$.I would have said you wanted at least 30-60 minutes before taking her to hotel, and say no clock watching or timers, you want to end the session when you're ready, and that you only pay at the end LOL.
She has to verbally agree to all of this, and then you take her, if not then pass.
And if she verbally agrees and then changes up in hotel, then I would just keep telling her that she agreed to what we stated in the club, and just repeating myself like a bot that we already agreed and not give her money LOL. If she doesn't just leave I would just keep repeating myself to be honest. And if she called management or management come I would just tell them straight up that we already agreed to everything in club, if they get mad at me then I would come here and write a scathing review documenting everything, then never see that girl again.
She set an alarm, and threatened to call security, and your interpretation of the situation is that her actions were motivated by desire to assiduously follow the rules? You really don't see that she was holding her breath and just grinding through the required time but not giving an inch more than needed to fulfill her end?I understand your point. But I have seen it all. This girl seemed genuinely scared as she saw it, to "bend the rules" This is lesson learned for me. I got to screen for this in the future.
Don't take it seriously. Take it easy. In Mexico they have a different way of behaving, a different kind of humor. It may be offensive to Americans, but in Mexico it is normal.It could be nothing as you said. But it also could be a tip of an iceberg indicating what she feels about US Mongers, reason why asked her. I screen for these things, I could not take it easy in these situation as I usually have not much time to screen. I check and take a feel based on their responses and most importantly expressions. She left even though I had more dollars to give her and then stepped on her chances to go arriba. Maybe she did not care or there is further sinister attitude underneath. Pass on!
I think he is doing good way.
There is no point to take arriba a girl that you approach and she quotes you $140 and declines getting a drink with you.
I think a reality most need to realize is that a good amount of these HK girl are not viable for arriba. So if you spend half your night having to constantly pass on girls for arriba, I would say that is normal and to be expected.
If you are going arriba consistently with the first or second girl you talk to every night you are at HK, you are doing something very very wrong (unless you happen to know that girl already or had good session with her before).Good points.
If and when presented with choices, the ladies will wield power – they get to pick their chodes, the real MVPs we affectionately call ourselves mongers. And when the cosmic alignment isn't quite right, and they decide to ungracefully bow out of the ascent solicitation, it's not your typical 'no. ' Oh no, it's a cinematic masterpiece of a sinister frown and a pout that could launch a thousand ships.
Don't take it seriously. Take it easy. In Mexico they have a different way of behaving, a different kind of humor. It may be offensive to Americans, but in Mexico it is normal.I think she likes him and she was flirting with him. At least that is how I would have taken it if I was in his spot. If she was really angry, she would have thrown his dollar on the ground disregard him like a little bug, which incidentally how I have experienced an angry chica in the past.
I would have said you wanted at least 30-60 minutes before taking her to hotel, and say no clock watching or timers, you want to end the session when you're ready, and that you only pay at the end LOL.
She has to verbally agree to all of this, and then you take her, if not then pass.
And if she verbally agrees and then changes up in hotel, then I would just keep telling her that she agreed to what we stated in the club, and just repeating myself like a bot that we already agreed and not give her money LOL. If she doesn't just leave I would just keep repeating myself to be honest. And if she called management or management come I would just tell them straight up that we already agreed to everything in club, if they get mad at me then I would come here and write a scathing review documenting everything, then never see that girl again.You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.
They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.
LuvMexicanas
02-18-24, 00:16
Good points.
If and when presented with choices, the ladies will wield power they get to pick their chodes, the real MVPs we affectionately call ourselves mongers. And when the cosmic alignment isn't quite right, and they decide to ungracefully bow out of the ascent solicitation, it's not your typical 'no. ' Oh no, it's a cinematic masterpiece of a sinister frown and a pout that could launch a thousand ships.It's really simple: you wield the power until the money is in her hands. No need to overcomplicate it.
TerOnlyOnce
02-18-24, 17:29
It's really simple: you wield the power until the money is in her hands. No need to overcomplicate it.Yeah, which is why you always pay at the end.
If she doesn't accept that, then don't take her to the room.
If no girl accepts that, then don't go to HK, go somewhere else.
It's as simple as that.
Paying at the beginning is never worth it, I would rather just not have sex with any of them, regardless of how hot or sexy they look. Because if you pay at the beginning, you won't get good service, so how hot she looks becomes irrelevant.
AmericanPi
02-18-24, 17:33
It's really simple: you wield the power until the money is in her hands. No need to overcomplicate it.I say this all the time. Not in relation to HK, but in life. It's a truism. When you're spending money, you have all the power until you agree to hand over the money. That's when negotiations cease. So a big trick in life is to make it seem normal that money doesn't exchange hands. I'm saying you don't hold it out and dangle it. You just casually keep the conversation in that middle ground where you need to be convinced still. Try this next time you pay someone directly for something. Including vagina.
TerOnlyOnce
02-18-24, 17:33
You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.
They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.If she switches anything up in room in a way that is clearly underhanded then just tell her to leave, do not give any money. Say there is misunderstanding and not what was agreed upon and you want to call it off. Don't fight it or anything, just don't give money. If this is in your room and you need to stay there, then just wait until she leaves or security comes. It doesn't matter what you do honestly, just do not pay any money under any circumstance LOL unless of course she is trying to threaten you or hurt you, if that were to happen though you should report it here and report it to management.
If she switches anything up in room in a way that is clearly underhanded then just tell her to leave, do not give any money. Say there is misunderstanding and not what was agreed upon and you want to call it off. Don't fight it or anything, just don't give money. If this is in your room and you need to stay there, then just wait until she leaves or security comes. It doesn't matter what you do honestly, just do not pay any money under any circumstance LOL unless of course she is trying to threaten you or hurt you, if that were to happen though you should report it here and report it to management.They Jefe definitely would have forced for her to be compensated for exiting HK and walking to the room. Did not want to wait until he said it. The room was mine paid for 3 nights.
I was with a slender, tall 25-year-old in my room. She reached out around 5 AM, claiming she had finished her shift and wanted to spend the morning together. A security personnel escorted her to my room, and I tipped him $5 to allow her in. After a shower, I started humping her BB with her squelching panocha in a bliss.
Suddenly, she made a gurgling sound, pushed me away, and stumbled towards the bathroom. The intensity of her vomiting was unmistakable. I gave her a glass of water and a damp towel for wipe, I cleaned up some vomit on the bathroom floor, told her to sit up, placing a cold wet towel on her forehead. Unfortunately, she experienced another round of intense vomiting and even had a minor seizure, with her hands trembling.
Concerned, I hastily dressed her, and as I called the lobby for assistance, a swarm of about 10 individuals, some from Rizo and others from HK, gathered at my door. Initially, it seemed like they were ready to pounce on me, but tensions eased when they were informed (unknown to me) that she had been extremely intoxicated when escorted to my room by the security personnel earlier and also when she told them she was asthmatic and did not have her inhaler.
I placed my spare pair of footies on her bare feet, placed her shoes in a plastic bag, dropped her $100 to her purse, all while under the watchful eyes of all that pile of security. I was genuinely concerned as they carried her and her things away into a Taxi to transport her to a hospital.
LuvMexicanas
02-18-24, 21:17
I say this all the time. Not in relation to HK, but in life. It's a truism. When you're spending money, you have all the power until you agree to hand over the money. That's when negotiations cease. So a big trick in life is to make it seem normal that money doesn't exchange hands. I'm saying you don't hold it out and dangle it. You just casually keep the conversation in that middle ground where you need to be convinced still. Try this next time you pay someone directly for something. Including vagina."Deserve's got nothing to do with it" In life, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.
I say this all the time. Not in relation to HK, but in life. It's a truism. When you're spending money, you have all the power until you agree to hand over the money. That's when negotiations cease. So a big trick in life is to make it seem normal that money doesn't exchange hands. I'm saying you don't hold it out and dangle it. You just casually keep the conversation in that middle ground where you need to be convinced still. Try this next time you pay someone directly for something. Including vagina.El mariachi pagado toca mal son. All Mexicans know this phrase. Learn it, love it, live it!
You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.
They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.Why you guys keep putting up with this place is beyond me. HK is horrible. I told you it's non stop scams.
Why you guys keep putting up with this place is beyond me. HK is horrible. I told you it's non stop scams.My only conclusion on why guys put up with this place is because they are typically older or less attractive men and theirfore conditioned to no sex, or just want that 5 minute CBJ and 5 minutes of sex anyway. They aren't 25 year old guys banging woman left and right for an hour 4 nights a week in the states. So the crap sex is actually what they prefer. And they feel grateful for any sex. And most are very afraid of being arrested for sex in their own city or cpuntry. And most only go 2 to 6 nights a year. It's the guys who were going every week that got sick of the changes from hk and its hotel that began shortly before covid and Co tinge to get worse every few months.
TerOnlyOnce
02-19-24, 19:42
Why you guys keep putting up with this place is beyond me. HK is horrible. I told you it's non stop scams.Where else do you recommend that is close to USA?
BrotherMouzone
02-19-24, 20:10
Part I: The Club.
This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.
I always go alone (except when I've gone with girlfriends from Tijuana). Other dudes would just get in the way and slow me down. I'm there to meet women, not dudes. There are many places in Tijuana to party and get drunk, so It's not my thing to do that in HK.
I try to look for newer girls. This is the one sport where amateurs are always better than pros. I like them skinny with a natural body. No plastic. Not too tiny. Not too much of a doll face. I like girls that are "off-pretty" in the face, or that have a face that has character. I have a thing against girls wearing glasses. These girls either want to be "taken seriously" or "create a barrier" (or they are a lesbian). None of these is a good thing. I don't like girls that wear to much: again, creating a barrier. I don't mind a few tats, but if you are covered in tats, that's a big red flag. I don't like girls that look mean. A lot of these girls walk around pouting the whole night, looking like death warmed over. Even if they are hot, these types are just not approachable, IMO. A girl needs to show some warmth, and look like she is at least having a little bit of fun. I like them maybe a little bit shy, not overly confident. I look for traits that indicate she will be more submissive and willing in the room.
At some point I will just approach a girl and ask her if she want's to come join me at a table. I never ask a waiter to call a girl over. In fact, I avoid waiters whenever possible. Mostly, I just roam the club during the course of the evening. I rarely even sit down because I don't like being approached by either waiters or girls (its just not in a young attractive woman's DNA to approach any male, so you tend to get the older, desperate ones coming up to you! I might sit down later when the club cools down a bit and there are more empty seats.
I like to sit with the girls near the back where it's more chill. I don't like the areas near the main stage where the show-offs are buying their 10 bottles of overpriced Patron. I usually have just a few drinks with a girl before deciding whether to go to the room. I feel like, if you want to socialize with her all night, you should just get her number and ask her to do something with you outside the club. If she speaks English too well, she's been working there to long. If her voice is too deep or sounds haggard, she's been working there too long. If she's too pushy, it's off. If she seems nice and humble, it's on. I speak a little Spanish, or at least can understand what they say. I try to keep the topics upbeat. I like to find out a little about their lives. If they are from Tijuana, what they do for fun, etc.
I don't necessarily try to grope the girls, or kiss them. I find that that really isn't a good indicator of what is too come. If I'm getting good signals, I will invite them to come with me to the room. I don't ask the price, nor do I say what I will pay. It's Ok if they quote a price at that time, unless it is too high, then I might balk or might say I only have this much. What I have found though, is that the girls, a lot of time, will just go with no mention of price. What I'm about to say may sound arrogant, but I can attest that it is true. If you are a decent looking white guy, intelligent, but not a nerd, you can pretty much run the table with these girls. For a lot of these girls, it's an ego boost for them to be with you. Because you are perceived as both high status and exotic, it's like a natural aphrodisiac for these women. So I have found that majority of the girls want to have sex anyway, and I kind of view any money exchanged as simply the social lubricant that makes nature take its course faster.
Appreciate your post, thanks. Agree with some of your points, in particular not wanting to waste my time interacting with other dudes, avoiding meseros as much as I can, and prefering to sit with chicas in the back (or upstairs) a way from the main stage where it's usually more relaxing an chill.
However, I do think you make several assumptions about the chicas which aren't necessarily true. "Amateurs always better than pros", the things against girls with glasses or who speak English too well because it shows they've been there too long, etc. At least in my experience, one of my regular chicas who speaks English very well has been there for a long time but the other two are relatively new and told me they speak and write English because of their education (both have college degrees and learned English over the years through their schooling). To each his own as far as preferences, though again it did seem (IMO) that some of your preferences were predicated on bad assumptions.
Also re: your last point, I think it's just wiser to always negotiate the price up front prior to arriba. I think you will eventually run into a problem if you're not agreeing to a price upfront. Same with the "you can pretty much run the table with these girls" comment, LOL. In a way reminds me of Trump's "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. " remark from back in the day. It's a foolhardy assumption IMO and you're setting yourself up for trouble if you go arriba with that attitude with the wrong chica.
Appreciate your post, thanks. Agree with some of your points, in particular not wanting to waste my time interacting with other dudes, avoiding meseros as much as I can, and prefering to sit with chicas in the back (or upstairs) a way from the main stage where it's usually more relaxing an chill.
However, I do think you make several assumptions about the chicas which aren't necessarily true. "Amateurs always better than pros", the things against girls with glasses or who speak English too well because it shows they've been there too long, etc. At least in my experience, one of my regular chicas who speaks English very well has been there for a long time but the other two are relatively new and told me they speak and write English because of their education (both have college degrees and learned English over the years through their schooling). To each his own as far as preferences, though again it did seem (IMO) that some of your preferences were predicated on bad assumptions.
Also re: your last point, I think it's just wiser to always negotiate the price up front prior to arriba. I think you will eventually run into a problem if you're not agreeing to a price upfront. Same with the "you can pretty much run the table with these girls" comment, LOL. In a way reminds me of Trump's "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. " remark from back in the day. It's a foolhardy assumption IMO and you're setting yourself up for trouble if you go arriba with that attitude with the wrong chica.The issue he has with girls in glasses is random. However I made mental note to verify it out in the future. I just checked all my contact's pics most don't wear glasses. There are two and they are both cool. I remember one girl in glasses I hate to this day.
I noticed girls who can speak English well are a bit aggressive, a bit demanding and think they are better for it. Where in reality speaking in English with the girls turn me off. In Spanish for some reason I fall in that sexual mojo. I usually decline to speak in English with the girls or anyone else unless I am chatting with other mongers.
Not discussing pricing while in the club is an invitation to disaster.
Throwing money at the girls doesn't buy you the best service. Not at all. She would take your money but what buys you the best service is where she is feeling wise at the moment of interaction and whether a good sentiment continues in the room until the end. There is a number of things that affect this which some are under the monger's control and others have nothing to do with one.
I put a list below that affect a good session. Please do not read if too tedious but I decided to list it out. With experience one can identify general positivity and negativity in just a minute or two. That is what I do and the frequent bad sessions I used to get before 5 years ago now became extremely rare. Sorry to disagree with those who believe money talks and you pay and get served. Not true. There is a difference between screwing a pretty but senseless and irritated manikin vs warm, wet, turned on human female.
Here are some things to note.
- Does she like your appearance, physically.
- Does your level of cleanliness affect her (positive or negative) do you have bad body odor, bad smelling breath, dirty clothing and shoes, etc.
- Are you relaxed or uptight, are you nervous or confident, are you playful or intense, are you too horny. Do you grope her too much.
- Are you too drunk.
- Did she see you chatting with other girls and those girls were smiling when they walk away from you.
- Do you address her friends too or ignore them.
- Do you pay her the standard or just a bit above the standard (or promise her propina based on her service) or do you come off too stingy (elbow rub).
- Did she take you as fool (or wannabe imposter) spraying money buying over the top priced drinks in the club.
- Are you a regular and do you have a good reputation.
- In the room does she like how you do her, can you follow her body language and adjust (without asking).
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Here is a list to note things out of a monger's control.
Is she having a bad day?
In the moment, is she mad, depressed or content and lively due to something that took place in her life.
Is she sick, physically hurt, (like an ill fitting shoes causing her pain in her feet, etc.).
Is she having an issue with management.
Is she generally an open person or closed.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
ABAJoeSmith123
02-20-24, 02:44
I was with a slender, tall 25-year-old in my room. She reached out around 5 AM, claiming she had finished her shift and wanted to spend the morning together. A security personnel escorted her to my room, and I tipped him $5 to allow her in. After a shower, I started humping her BB with her squelching panocha in a bliss.
Suddenly, she made a gurgling sound, pushed me away, and stumbled towards the bathroom. The intensity of her vomiting was unmistakable. I gave her a glass of water and a damp towel for wipe, I cleaned up some vomit on the bathroom floor, told her to sit up, placing a cold wet towel on her forehead. Unfortunately, she experienced another round of intense vomiting and even had a minor seizure, with her hands trembling.
Concerned, I hastily dressed her, and as I called the lobby for assistance, a swarm of about 10 individuals, some from Rizo and others from HK, gathered at my door. Initially, it seemed like they were ready to pounce on me, but tensions eased when they were informed (unknown to me) that she had been extremely intoxicated when escorted to my room by the security personnel earlier and also when she told them she was asthmatic and did not have her inhaler.
I placed my spare pair of footies on her bare feet, placed her shoes in a plastic bag, dropped her $100 to her purse, all while under the watchful eyes of all that pile of security. I was genuinely concerned as they carried her and her things away into a Taxi to transport her to a hospital.Damn. You barebacked the chica in her ass when she was drunk and not feeling well. That's not right dude.
Damn. You barebacked the chica in her ass when she was drunk and not feeling well. That's not right dude.I am nice and caring in that way. I used to have a girlfriend who used to call and tell me, baby I am having a bad headache, come and fuck me.
Where else do you recommend that is close to USA?Exactly TjBrazil, give us the address of a place like a Hong Kong club (strip club, hotel, brothel, restaurant, sports bar, (with legal prostitution) open 24/7 in the state of California or the USA. But not in the state of Nevada because it is too expensive.
Exactly TjBrazil, give us the address of a place like a Hong Kong club (strip club, hotel, brothel, restaurant, sports bar, (with legal prostitution) open 24/7 in the state of California or the USA. But not in the state of Nevada because it is too expensive.Well speaking from a guy in his 50's now with a 200 testosterone level, Save the money you would spend in HK and go to Brazil 3 times a year for 10 days. When you get back, your sperm will be drained and you should be good until your next trip in 4 months. At this point, I have no desire to really bang anybody while I'm waiting four months. Mongering everywhere is really on the decline, even Brazil, but it's still way better than HK the clip joint.
Appreciate your post, thanks. Agree with some of your points, in particular not wanting to waste my time interacting with other dudes, avoiding meseros as much as I can, and prefering to sit with chicas in the back (or upstairs) a way from the main stage where it's usually more relaxing an chill.
However, I do think you make several assumptions about the chicas which aren't necessarily true. "Amateurs always better than pros", the things against girls with glasses or who speak English too well because it shows they've been there too long, etc. At least in my experience, one of my regular chicas who speaks English very well has been there for a long time but the other two are relatively new and told me they speak and write English because of their education (both have college degrees and learned English over the years through their schooling). To each his own as far as preferences, though again it did seem (IMO) that some of your preferences were predicated on bad assumptions.
Also re: your last point, I think it's just wiser to always negotiate the price up front prior to arriba. I think you will eventually run into a problem if you're not agreeing to a price upfront. Same with the "you can pretty much run the table with these girls" comment, LOL. In a way reminds me of Trump's "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. " remark from back in the day. It's a foolhardy assumption IMO and you're setting yourself up for trouble if you go arriba with that attitude with the wrong chica.Of course nothing is ever 100% true. I'm sure there are some great girls that wear glasses and speak perfect english that I have missed out on. But we all have our idiosyncrasies.
I'm not really that much of a fan of HK, per se. At this point in my life, I'm not that interested in just having a quickie in the room. When I was younger, I just wanted variety and volume, but I have kind of "graduated" from that level. Now I go there to build connections with a few girls, and then I stop going. I've found that if you build a connection with just one girl, it opens up a whole different world. I had that before, but then I had a long absence (read long term relationship), so I'm just getting back into the game. The problem is finding the right girl, who is willing to mix business and pleasure. So right now I'm in the phase of going to HK frequently to make that connection (I live about an hour away from Tijuana). And yes, in the process I will have some quickies in the room, of course.
So this is my main issue with the pros vs amateurs. Pro's are girls who have been working regularly there for a while. They are always there, punching the clock. The problem with these girls, from my perspective, is that they fall into one of two categories. In the first category are the girls that like the lifestyle more than they like men. Men are somewhat secondary in their lives, if they are even present. In the second category are the women who are chained to the lifestyle through some family circumstance. They have little freedom, and a lot of obligations. So, while some of them can be personable and accommodating, you can never make that much inroads with them, it seems. Everything is kept on a "business" level, in other words. Amateurs, on the other hand, don't like the lifestyle. They tend to be younger and / or freer. They go there infrequently, and only earn enough to satisfy their immediate needs before heading back home. They are less business-like, and most importantly, more willing to see you outside the club. At least, this has been my experience.
As far as seeing girls outside the club. It's also important that the girl likes you on some level and wants to do stuff with you as opposed to just trying to get money off you. You can usually tell. As long as they don't ask me for money, I will be generous with them. Call me crazy, but I actually like spending money on women, as long as it fits my budget (I'm not rich, but I'm not poor ether. I have enough disposable income where the money isn't really that big of a deal to me.). Money gives you leverage and power when dealing with women. I don't like it when women can totally dictate the terms of the relationship, which is why I have never engaged in those friends with benefits style relationships. A man needs to pay, IMHO! That being said, you also need to bring something else to the table besides money, or you are just a sugar-daddy.
You may ask: Why try to pick up prostitutes in HK? Why not go to a normal club on revolution or something?
In my situation, a big reason is I just cannot get down there on the weekend, so HK is about the only place to go.
It's just a bit trickier to do it in regular clubs, especially as an American with "limited" spanish.
Also, girls in these clubs can be pros too, sometimes just in other ways. Really, in poorer countries, a non-pro is just another name for an ugly girl.
I like bad girls. Probably not the best thing to like, but oh well. I can't imaging trying to meet a girl at a bible study or something. I can't be with someone who is too sexually or socially conservative. They have to like sex and be open minded.
HK girls can be wild and crazy, and know how to party. They have this live for the day attitude which I find appealing. Of course, they can be crazy in a bad way too, but that's a story for another time.
As for the other point, If you want to set a price up front and negotiate before going to the room, that's fine and probably safer than my method. But. There is also more payoff to my method, as I will explain later. BTW, I don't believe there is a sure fire way to prevent striking out in the room. No matter what you do there is always the risk factor with a new girl.
These are my last three sessions, in order. They happened on different dates. I'm a low volume guy at this point and pretty selective, so sometimes I will go the the club without taking a girl up at all, or I will just go with one girl. (I'm not a guy who likes to kiss and tell so I'm not going to say names, or exact services provided.).
1) Strike out: This girl spoke good english (see. Already a bad sign, but no, she did not wear glasses) I asked her how she came to speak english and she said from her job managing a timeshare in playa del carmen, or something like that. I though that was plausible. She seemed to have a shtick (major red flag), when it came to dealing with customers, of immediately trying to grind on their lap. I really wasn't into the lap dances, though, and she kept doing it, which was kind of awkward. Really, at this point I was still like a newb after not having been in the game for over 4 years. My spidey-sense wasn't working, so I ignored all the warning signs. The main thing was that I potentially thought she could be freaky in bed, so I said, "hey, let's go to the room. " She quoted me $100. I said "OK". I did not have my own room on this visit, so we went to the exorbitantly priced short term room. I think the room manager may have actually laughed in my face as I handed over my life savings for 20 minutes in this small, cramped, dingy, hooker room. When, we got to the room, she immediately asked for the money and I obliged like an idiot. Well, once she got the money, the rules started coming out. "None of this" and "I don't do that". I was about to ask for my money back, but I wasn't really in the mood for a confrontation, so I just went with it. We got down to business but it was just that: all business. A boring session with basically no chemistry.
After this, I realized that I needed to up my game a little bit. This was my second strikeout and I was worried that HK had really started to suck. But maybe I just need a different approach. I bought the VIP card with the intention of getting my own room next time. Not only that, I would get the room at RIzo instead of HK. This would accomplish several things. First, it would remove the time constraint to some degree. Thus far, no one has come knocking on my room at Rizo. Second, it would remove the girls from their element, into a basically neutral site. This would shift the balance of power in my direction. Third, I would be getting away from those greedy HK fuckers, and going over to Rizo, where they are basically totally clueless about running a business (which is why it smells so bad in Tropical) but not as greedy. And yes, people, I know they are run by the same group.
My spidey-sense was starting to kick in at this point as well. My next two sessions would be home runs, as I will talk about in the next part. Need to sleep for now.
Great! They should know: no service no money; no good service, no tips.
You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.
They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.
Did not visit for a while, want to know.
How long does it take to cross border from Tijuana to San Ysidro w / global entry card?
Ped west (close to the mall) open?
You guys still change peso?
How much for cas hotel now?
How much 1 session?
Did not visit for a while, want to know.
How long does it take to cross border from Tijuana to San Ysidro w / global entry card?
Ped west (close to the mall) open?
You guys still change peso?
How much for cas hotel now?
How much 1 session?Search and read and then ask more refined questions.
CBJ, I'm assuming? Even still, not bad for a bar girl I guess.
I also disagree that the attractive younger girls will typically not approach you since its not in their nature. I have just as many of the younger ones, Im talking about 19-21 year olds, approach me just as much as any other age group with a good amount of success that has included GFE type services as well. Theyre definitely out there, I can guarantee you that.Well, If you're getting that you must be doing something right! Maybe it's because you are more of a known factor, and they have heard from other girls that you are cool to be with? To some extent, it depends on the "safety factor," like if you have been vetted already or maybe look non-threatening. I'm still, at this point, a bit of an unknown quantity to most of these girls.
AlsoI like them a little on the shy and submissive side. Maybe this is why the ones I like "almost" never make the first approach. I don't know, but when I go to the club I don't see the majority of these girls approaching any guys. They will usually wait, and wait, and wait for a guy to approach. Or a waiter to approach. Some will wait all night. This is also something where if you are in a group, girls may approach because they want to sit and have drinks, and if you are in a group you are unlikely to be a serial killer. But a lone guy. Very rare.
TerOnlyOnce
02-20-24, 20:33
Well speaking from a guy in his 50's now with a 200 testosterone level, Save the money you would spend in HK and go to Brazil 3 times a year for 10 days. When you get back, your sperm will be drained and you should be good until your next trip in 4 months. At this point, I have no desire to really bang anybody while I'm waiting four months. Mongering everywhere is really on the decline, even Brazil, but it's still way better than HK the clip joint.Every 4 months is too long.
I need action at least once a week, can't accept any less frequent.
Captain Solo
02-21-24, 00:25
Went to Asia for 6 weeks in Dec -Jan, have been missing out on Tijuana. Sat afternoon 3 of us drove down to San Ysidro border crossing. I forgot to bring passport, should have gone through the Mexicanos line since nobody was checking, only 1 Mex Imm guy sitting in the booth on the Foreigners line, but not risking harsh punishments, I told Imm guy I forgot passport. He pulled me aside while checking and passing other Gringos. Obi-Wan told him we were heading to a bachelor party blah blah blah. After 5 min hold he waved me past.
As usual, bought mariscos, tacos, sopa de rez, beers, had a big lunch on Rizo's balcony, watching HK and Tropical girls going to work, getting fill up before drinking in HK.
HK wanted 4 bottles min for the 2 tables in front of the TV. Bull shit if we will get poor so HK's owners and cartels can get richer. Obi-Wan got us a long booth next to the stage, the best spot to watch every action in the club, not easy on a busy Saturday night. We each chipped in $20 to buy a bottle of Bacardi, including 4 Cokes and ice for mixing. Obi-Wan can manage HK's workers, get us a good table and everything we need all night, a very good deal.
Pollo set up 4 round tables for us with bottle, Cokes, ice buckets, glasses, napkins like a real classy club hehe. He hung around mixing drinks for us all night. Bacardi rum and Coke is tart, sweet, spicy, a popular drinks when I was in undergraduate school. It delivers a gentle buzz without headache or hang over, at least for me. HK had quite a few new, beautiful girls along with old familiars. We were having a good time drinking, watching the strip show, feeling up, flirting with hot girls. A couple more wingmen made contacts and joined us. It was fun meeting them again after a couple months. By 7 HK had a lot of new, beautiful girls floating around us. Had a lot of fun flirting, kissing, feeling up hot young girls with $1 propinas. Man, we were partying like the top 1 per centers. Trump would have been jealous.
R2 D2 brought a girl to the table, bought her a beer. She wanted to try Bacardi. Obi-Wan started to mix rum with Coke, but she said she wanted it straight. He snuck her half a shot, suggested she knock it down, which she did in one gulp, said it was very good.
Airelli came to say Hello, smiling sweetly, very beautiful, nice, fun, proper. I gave her a propina in her boobs, hugged her, kissed her face. Obi-Wan latched onto to her like a hungry octopus with both arms and legs, would not let her go. Papaya is in love with her and gets jealous with other guys, but he' s also in love with lots of HK girls, especially the huge, flabby ones, so he can't claim exclusivity with all. Last week couple guys were in a huge brawl in front of HK due to one taking a friend's "girl. " Guys should remember, she's not your girl, just your turn for 30 min. Girls have their rights to give their pussies to whomever they choose. Jealous guys are out of line. Obi-Wan took Airelli to Rizo, hoping Papaya did not see them together and did not get jealous.
Later Obi-Wan found a tall, lithe girl in HK, a full head taller than he, another Papaya's favorite, took her to the hotel, sounded guilty but claimed they are certified Eskimo brothers hehe. Again later at night he took a Tropical girl up for another pop, quite a horny goat. Don't know why his dick has not fallen off.
We stayed most of the night in HK drinking Bacardi with Coke, getting gentle highs, having fun with hot girls, catching up with wingmen. Storm Trooper waited a long time for his fav to come to town, eventually picked her up to his hotel downtown.
Found a new girl in Chavelas, young, nice, lanky, pretty face with wavy blonde hair, a skinny Marilyn Monroe, perfect for my taste. Brought her to our table, offered her cervezas, she said yes; bought her a couple. She speaks English, kidding, smiling, charming us. She had the nicest young, perky teen be boobs, flat ab, tight crotch, perfectly shaped ass. I was squeezing propinas into her bras, caressing, sucking on her pink nips. She kept encouraging me to add more propinas into strategic spots. Eventually my face was down in her crotch, sniffing her feminine scents, licking on that tiny clit. She was squirming, her hands roughing up my hair. This girl knows how to play fun, sexy games hehe.
A civie couple, sitting on stools next to the strip stage, were watching us intently instead of the stripper, smiling broadly. Lo and behold, they quickly copied our antics; the woman spread her legs out on the stool and the guy's face immediately latched onto her crotch, huffing, puffing hehe.
Took skinny Marilyn Monroe to Cascada. She kept saying " I want you to fuck me" with her dreamy eyes. We did some wild and sexy things together. Had one of the sexiest and wildest session with this pretty girl. Wingmen all got multiple sessions with bar and street girls for the night. These guys have their hormones pumps on overdrive. Let just say we all had our sexiest night. Man, what a fun and sexy party.
Bacardi rum with Coke goes down smooth but potent. 6 guys were drinking all night and just finished 1 bottle. The girls wanted straight shots, liked it and kept knocking it down. Guys should slow them down, limit them to 3 half shots max for the night, or they won't know what hits them, get drunk and ruin their night.
Rainman306
02-21-24, 04:47
My first 2 trips to Tijuana in summer 2019 and beginning of 2020, prep vivid the pricing was:
$70 - Adelitas.
$80 - Tropical and Chicago.
$80 - $100 at HK.
My first trip post Covid in Summer 2021 the prices were mostly $100 everywhere and maybe $120 HK.
Guys that negotiate well usually get $20 off all there rates.
If doing a 3-some should be $20 off each the normal rate.
Street Girls were 250 pesos in 2019. Recently have been more like 400-600 pesos.
6 guys were drinking all night and just finished 1 bottle. The girls wanted straight shots, liked it and kept knocking it down. Guys should slow them down, limit them to 3 half shots max for the night, or they won't know what hits them, get drunk and ruin their night.Was that a 5 gallon bottle or what?
Did not visit for a while, want to know.
How long does it take to cross border from Tijuana to San Ysidro w / global entry card?
Ped west (close to the mall) open?
You guys still change peso?
How much for cas hotel now?
How much 1 session?No wait on crossing border from Tijuana to USA (no wait you just walk to building. Maybe couple of minutes if there is a line once inside the building) - budget 15 minutes from where limo lets off to USA.
I only pay the street girls in pesos (I use Schwab card at the ATM inside Calimax supermarket to get pesos).
Cas hotel prices posted at https://hotelcascadas.com - varies based on day of week.
1 session from HK gal is about $100; Street gal starts at 500 pesos for 20 min for full service.
Well, If you're getting that you must be doing something right! Maybe it's because you are more of a known factor, and they have heard from other girls that you are cool to be with? To some extent, it depends on the "safety factor," like if you have been vetted already or maybe look non-threatening. I'm still, at this point, a bit of an unknown quantity to most of these girls.
AlsoI like them a little on the shy and submissive side. Maybe this is why the ones I like "almost" never make the first approach. I don't know, but when I go to the club I don't see the majority of these girls approaching any guys. They will usually wait, and wait, and wait for a guy to approach. Or a waiter to approach. Some will wait all night. This is also something where if you are in a group, girls may approach because they want to sit and have drinks, and if you are in a group you are unlikely to be a serial killer. But a lone guy. Very rare.
If you want girls to approach you try to go when it's not as busy, typically anytime before 7 pm and grab a seat you will be comfortable in for at least 30-60 minutes. You will get approached by a wide arrange of girls. If you have a wristband from Cascadas or Rizo that will also increase your chances of getting approached. When girls you find attractive pass by lock eyes with them for a couple seconds but then look away. The ones that are go-getters will always approach you with a proposition. See if you can talk to them for 2-5 minutes without the need to buy them a drink. Act interested but not too interested, leaving room for her to work for your business. Stare at other girls who pass by to let her know you're well aware of the plenty of other options around you. If you determine you don't like her as much as you thought you did after all, send her on her way without a tip. If you like her but she fails to convince you to take her arriba, give her a dollar or two and send her on her way. It will give her an incentive to approach you again later on in the evening especially if things are going slow for her, she possibly will up her efforts the second time around and might be willing to go that extra mile for you. And if she's doing and saying all the right things, then don't hesitate on taking her arriba because most likely she will be busy for the rest of her shift either with a regular client or another monger who was smart enough to pick up on all the right signals.
LuvMexicanas
02-22-24, 22:57
When a chica I didn't really want to session with wouldn't take a hint and kept insisting we go upstairs, I used to tell them yes if it's todo sin condon. The problem was too many would say let's go. Therefore, I adapted and started saying no dinero in which case they abandoned me faster than I'd blow my wad when I was 18.
In town this week for a big work conference but I am planning on visiting HK during the day mostly as I am worried about going at night and seeing a bunch of co-workers LOL.
Few questions.
Is there still free transportation to HK if you park and walk across the border? Where is this exactly?
Is it worth going to HK from the hours of 10 AM- 4 PM? Is there any decent talent working during this time on a Tuesday, Wednesday, etc?
Seems the prices have really gone up. In my experience, no girls at HK ever offer BBJ. It was always a hard No. Is that still the case?
In the past, I used the VIP pickup in US and drop directly at HK service for $75 or something. I was thinking that probably isn't necessary and would prefer just to use the free HK limo etc when you walk across if that is still a thing.
Would greatly appreciate any other tips / advice for someone who only has past weekend experience and now wants to explore HK during the week. Thanks!
I believe the shuttle is for VIP members. Yes there is good looking girls at HK during the day. The limo shuttles is along the walkway as you leave the pedeast immigration building It has become harder to find girls that do BBJ in the Zona. It is not impossible. But it is much more difficult to find these days. Or at least finding girls that good looing enough you would want to get a BBJ from.
In town this week for a big work conference but I am planning on visiting HK during the day mostly as I am worried about going at night and seeing a bunch of co-workers LOL.
Few questions.
Is there still free transportation to HK if you park and walk across the border? Where is this exactly?
Is it worth going to HK from the hours of 10 AM- 4 PM? Is there any decent talent working during this time on a Tuesday, Wednesday, etc?
Seems the prices have really gone up. In my experience, no girls at HK ever offer BBJ. It was always a hard No. Is that still the case?
In the past, I used the VIP pickup in US and drop directly at HK service for $75 or something. I was thinking that probably isn't necessary and would prefer just to use the free HK limo etc when you walk across if that is still a thing.
Would greatly appreciate any other tips / advice for someone who only has past weekend experience and now wants to explore HK during the week. Thanks!
Captain Solo
02-27-24, 18:16
You can park free at the Blue Line's Palm station and ride the trolley down to the border.
Cross the border and walk South. The HK limo picks up in front of HK's small office before the taxi stand. Ask guys where it is. VIP or not, just ride the limousine for free and tip driver.
HK should have couple dozens hotties week day day time. The putas never rest. Some girls will do BBBJ and BBFS, depending on how nice you are and how many drinks you buy them. Make sure she agrees to that before going up.
In town this week for a big work conference but I am planning on visiting HK during the day mostly as I am worried about going at night and seeing a bunch of co-workers LOL.
Few questions.
Is there still free transportation to HK if you park and walk across the border? Where is this exactly?
Is it worth going to HK from the hours of 10 AM- 4 PM? Is there any decent talent working during this time on a Tuesday, Wednesday, etc?
Seems the prices have really gone up. In my experience, no girls at HK ever offer BBJ. It was always a hard No. Is that still the case?
In the past, I used the VIP pickup in US and drop directly at HK service for $75 or something. I was thinking that probably isn't necessary and would prefer just to use the free HK limo etc when you walk across if that is still a thing.
Would greatly appreciate any other tips / advice for someone who only has past weekend experience and now wants to explore HK during the week. Thanks!
Baxter Slade
02-27-24, 18:27
I believe the shuttle is for VIP members. Yes there is good looking girls at HK during the day. The limo shuttles is along the walkway as you leave the pedeast immigration building It has become harder to find girls that do BBJ in the Zona. It is not impossible. But it is much more difficult to find these days. Or at least finding girls that good looing enough you would want to get a BBJ from.While the HK limo is advertised as a perk for VIP members. Anyone can grab a ride no problem. While the service starts pick up from the border to HK at 2 pm It is still posible to catch a ride before 2 by waiting in the ped east drop off area and catch a ride to HK. If you don't want to wait around to save a few bucks just offer a cab that just dropped someone off $5 to HK. The drop off area is a good spot to catch a taxi discount because the cabbie doesn't want to wait in a long line for a customer. Leaving HK back to the border is no problem getting the shuttle at any hour.
BrotherMouzone
02-27-24, 19:03
I believe the shuttle is for VIP members. In theory yes, but I don't recall the last time, if ever, that I was actually asked for my VIP card to get to HK. I do always have luggage with me and tell them I'm going to Cascadas. But I really doubt the driving waiting would actually turn non-VIP members down, as long as they tip a couple bucks or so. Doubt he'll even ask whether your VIP in the first place.
At PedEast, the limo will often be behind a fence that you'll see on your right-hand side as you're walking out of the customs building along the walkway everyone walks on to get to the main street. If the limo isn't there, you can open the fence and walk through the dirt there and the parking lot you'll see in the distance to the HK office, where you'll be able to wait for the limo to arrive.
This video does a decent job of showing where the limo is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8u-sAG_ll0&ab_channel=OfficialHongKongGentlemen%27sClub.
In theory yes, but I don't recall the last time, if ever, that I was actually asked for my VIP card to get to HK. I do always have luggage with me and tell them I'm going to Cascadas. But I really doubt the driving waiting would actually turn non-VIP members down, as long as they tip a couple bucks or so. Doubt he'll even ask whether your VIP in the first place.
At PedEast, the limo will often be behind a fence that you'll see on your right-hand side as you're walking out of the customs building along the walkway everyone walks on to get to the main street. If the limo isn't there, you can open the fence and walk through the dirt there and the parking lot you'll see in the distance to the HK office, where you'll be able to wait for the limo to arrive.
This video does a decent job of showing where the limo is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8u-sAG_ll0&ab_channel=OfficialHongKongGentlemen%27sClub.Is it smarter to book a hotel room at Cascadas ahead of time or should you just book it when you arrive?
BigButtDetecto
02-28-24, 01:35
When a chica I didn't really want to session with wouldn't take a hint and kept insisting we go upstairs, I used to tell them yes if it's todo sin condon. The problem was too many would say let's go. Therefore, I adapted and started saying no dinero in which case they abandoned me faster than I'd blow my wad when I was 18.When a chica keeps pressuring me, I just say that I am waiting for another girl; it works great.
Rainman306
02-28-24, 02:59
I don't think I've ever been asked to show a VIP card to ride the free HK shuttle either direction to or from the clubs & hotels.
They will ask to see the VIP card for any other discounts & check for validity / non-expiration. I once had a VIP card with dates that could be changed with a minor pen stroke and tried to pass it off, but they checked the records somehow & basically told me the card had expired.
BrotherMouzone
02-28-24, 04:01
Is it smarter to book a hotel room at Cascadas ahead of time or should you just book it when you arrive?If I 100% know I'm going (which I always do because I come to Tijuana from out of town) then yes, I always book ahead of time. IMO, there's no reason not to if you know you're going and what dates you'll be there. Especially for weekends, it eliminates the possibility that they claim they're out of basic rooms (assuming that's what you were going to get) and try to upsell you to a more expensive room. If you're going this week I'd recommend booking ASAP just to be on the safe side, though if you're going during the week in the daytime it's likely you have nothing to worry about. But I'd still book ahead of time anyway.
BrotherMouzone
02-28-24, 04:08
I once had a VIP card with dates that could be changed with a minor pen stroke and tried to pass it off, but they checked the records somehow & basically told me the card had expired.LOL. I've never been bold enough to try this but year, they have the expiration dates stored in their computer system and they usually check. When my card expires I usually try to pass it to them anyway, acting like I didn't know it expired (LOL) but I've never gotten away with that (tried that like 4 or 5 times LOL). They always politely just tell me the card is expired and that I need to buy a new one on the spot to get the discount, which I always end up doing to save money.
I don't think I've ever been asked to show a VIP card to ride the free HK shuttle either direction to or from the clubs & hotels..From the border to the Hotels they never ask but at times they check if you enter either Cas or Rizo.
From the Hotels to the border if they know you are have seen you leave the Hotels and you carry a bag they don't bother. At times they will right your name at other times they either ask a ride card from the Hotels or a VIP card.
It is inconsistent. But their guidelines are consistent. Check!
There are two older drivers I do not like, both are extremely rude, one is an old skinny dude another a former manager demoted for one reason or another. These guys hate you for no reason and when you tip them they will snatch the dollars out of your hand.
These are my last three sessions, in order. They happened on different dates. I'm a low volume guy at this point and pretty selective, so sometimes I will go the the club without taking a girl up at all, or I will just go with one girl. (I'm not a guy who likes to kiss and tell so I'm not going to say names, or exact services provided.).
1) Strike out: This girl spoke good english (see. Already a bad sign, but no, she did not wear glasses) I asked her how she came to speak english and she said from her job managing a timeshare in playa del carmen, or something like that. I though that was plausible. She seemed to have a shtick (major red flag), when it came to dealing with customers, of immediately trying to grind on their lap. I really wasn't into the lap dances, though, and she kept doing it, which was kind of awkward. Really, at this point I was still like a newb after not having been in the game for over 4 years. My spidey-sense wasn't working, so I ignored all the warning signs. The main thing was that I potentially thought she could be freaky in bed, so I said, "hey, let's go to the room. " She quoted me $100. I said "OK". I did not have my own room on this visit, so we went to the exorbitantly priced short term room. I think the room manager may have actually laughed in my face as I handed over my life savings for 20 minutes in this small, cramped, dingy, hooker room. When, we got to the room, she immediately asked for the money and I obliged like an idiot. Well, once she got the money, the rules started coming out. "None of this" and "I don't do that". I was about to ask for my money back, but I wasn't really in the mood for a confrontation, so I just went with it. We got down to business but it was just that: all business. A boring session with basically no chemistry.
After this, I realized that I needed to up my game a little bit. This was my second strikeout and I was worried that HK had really started to suck. But maybe I just need a different approach. I bought the VIP card with the intention of getting my own room next time. Not only that, I would get the room at RIzo instead of HK. This would accomplish several things. First, it would remove the time constraint to some degree. Thus far, no one has come knocking on my room at Rizo. Second, it would remove the girls from their element, into a basically neutral site. This would shift the balance of power in my direction. Third, I would be getting away from those greedy HK fuckers, and going over to Rizo, where they are basically totally clueless about running a business (which is why it smells so bad in Tropical) but not as greedy. And yes, people, I know they are run by the same group.
My spidey-sense was starting to kick in at this point as well. My next two sessions would be home runs, as I will talk about in the next part. Need to sleep for now.2) Home run: My next session was with a less experienced girl. Her face was about a 7 (Cute, but not too cute. More girl next door looking, rather than model looking. She had kind of a big nose.) but her body was a 10. She was all natural, and I can't remember if she had any tattoos. If she did, they were not prominent. She was probably early twenties, if that. She spoke no english and did not wear glasses. Apparently, she was from some town near Mexico City, and would be returning there soon. She didn't seem like much of a party girl when I asked her about nightlife and stuff in Tijuana. She was friendly, though, and had this kind of, "I'm just happy to be here" smile on her face. After a few drinks, I invited her to the room. I explained that I can't escort her through Chevelas because I have bad blood with the bartender who works there (I stole his girlfriend, back in the day), and he will make trouble for me if he sees me. It took a minute for her to understand what I was talking about, as it is kind of a weird request, but finally she got it. I gave her a dollar for the robe guy and said I would meet her right outside the door. Once she comes out, we walk across the street to Rizo, and in about 2 minutes we are in my room, which I had gotten for the night.
Another good thing about having your own room is the ability to control the ambiance. I actually don't like those "mood" lights (yes, another pet peeve), so I just turn on the bathroom light instead. I feel like the mood lights are still too bright and encourage the girls to put on a show, rather than have an intimate experience, which is the opposite of what I am aiming for. It's darker and more intimate with just the bathroom light on. Once the mood is set, we get down to business pretty quickly. This girl has NO restrictions, and is basically giving me a GFE. We finish, and then we are laying besides each other talking for a bit. I realize she isn't getting up to get cleaned up, so at one point I say, "I'm not sure if I can go another round so soon. " She is like, "why not?" So that was my queue to try again. I was surprised that I could go for another round so quickly after the first one, but I managed (I'm not 20 anymore, LOL). After we finish again, I begin to worry that the girl intends to stay all night, so I say that, unfortunately, I have to go to work tomorrow and I need to head out soon (which, in fact, was the truth). She goes into the shower to clean up. This girl literally took the longest shower ever. I was sitting on the bed saying to myself, "Is she ever going to come out of there?" But after what was about 15 min she finally emerged and got dressed.
Now the dilemma of what to pay. There had been no mention of money up until this point, so I was not sure how much she wanted. Since she had stayed extra time, and basically did what I wanted, with so called "extras", I felt like $140 was appropriate. I left that amount on the table. She scooped the money up without counting it and put it in her purse, so I don't know if she was happy with it or not. I got her number. For a girl this good, I couldn't miss that opportunity. I then walked her back across the street to HK and we parted ways.
Not sure what happened to her, but I haven't seen her in the club since that day, nor have I contacted her. I feel like she might be back in her home town at the moment. She was pretty cute and all but not "exactly" my type. Then again, I am very picky.
The next session coming soon. And then post game analysis.
ABAJoeSmith123
02-28-24, 20:50
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2) 1. Strike out: This girl spoke good english (see. Already a bad sign, but no, she did not wear glasses) I asked her how she came to speak english and she said from her job managing a timeshare in playa del carmen, or something like that.
2. Home run: My next session was with a less experienced girl. Her face was about a 7 (Cute, but not too cute. More girl next door looking, rather than model looking. She had kind of a big nose.) but her body was a 10. .#1. English speaking girls are a thing of red flag in the zona, always.
#2. Always go for a acceptable looks and highly attractive attitude in the moment.
With these you can minimize bad sessions. Select carefully, specifically a girls attitude in the moment, which otherwise you can ruin your trip every time you are down there.
ABAJoeSmith123
02-29-24, 02:50
#1. English speaking girls are a thing of red flag in the zona, always.
#2. Always go for a acceptable looks and highly attractive attitude in the moment.
With these you can minimize bad sessions. Select carefully, specifically a girls attitude in the moment, which otherwise you can ruin your trip every time you are down there.Why is speaking English a red flag? You'll be able to have more chemistry and talk about things more than just asking what their name is and saying arriba / cuanto cuesta. I think talking to chicas using google translate is sad and pathetic even though that's what you got to do if you don't speak Spanish.
Why is speaking English a red flag? You'll be able to have more chemistry and talk about things more than just asking what their name is and saying arriba / cuanto cuesta. I think talking to chicas using google translate is sad and pathetic even though that's what you got to do if you don't speak Spanish.Generally speaking if she's fluent in English she's been around too many gringos. And when that happens they tend to develop shark-why habits and their service goes downhill rapidly.
If you want good times, consistently, you have to be able to carry a rudimentary conversation in Spanish.
Aviator400
02-29-24, 14:17
From the border to the Hotels they never ask but at times they check if you enter either Cas or Rizo.
From the Hotels to the border if they know you are have seen you leave the Hotels and you carry a bag they don't bother. At times they will right your name at other times they either ask a ride card from the Hotels or a VIP card.
It is inconsistent. But their guidelines are consistent. Check!
There are two older drivers I do not like, both are extremely rude, one is an old skinny dude another a former manager demoted for one reason or another. These guys hate you for no reason and when you tip them they will snatch the dollars out of your hand.Yep. I know which drivers you are referencing. I dread the old skinny guy driving me. He is hating life and makes sure that everyone around him knows it.
Yep. I know which drivers you are referencing. I dread the old skinny guy driving me. He is hating life and makes sure that everyone around him knows it.And I hated the fat old grumpy dude who was rude as fuck. He was loathed by other drivers and got his position because he spoke English and was with HK for a long time. The other drivers probably got sick of his shit and push him back down.
Generally speaking if she's fluent in English she's been around too many gringos. And when that happens they tend to develop shark-why habits and their service goes downhill rapidly.
If you want good times, consistently, you have to be able to carry a rudimentary conversation in Spanish.
Exactly. This isn't to say that if a girl speaks English she is necessarily bad. But if you play the law of averages, the ones that speak good english do tend to be more of the "gringo hunter" types. If you go there frequently, I would strongly suggest you beef up your spanish skills, as it opens up a lot more opportunities.
Also, I never found the language barrier to be that much of an issue, even when I spoke no spanish. if you are just there for the night, and you want to bust out google translate, go for it. No one is gong to care.
Why is speaking English a red flag? You'll be able to have more chemistry and talk about things more than just asking what their name is and saying arriba / cuanto cuesta. I think talking to chicas using google translate is sad and pathetic even though that's what you got to do if you don't speak Spanish.You should really study so you can have acceptable level of communication with Spanish, the rest you can augment with translation using your phone. The girls are way much more understanding that the common person when it comes to this. Red Flags are numerous and speaking English at you is one of them. Besides if you know it you will sound much more attractive to the girls when you try Spanish with a bit of good (not the ugly American) accent no matter how slow you speak. Work on the accent and study descriptive sentences.
My second point is the most important though. If you find a ravishing girl with excellent attitude then consider yourself the luckiest person because it is rare. Forget that, it is hard to find a girl with true and good attitude period. So you got to be selective. If you are likable and are good in selecting carefully you can have a time of your life.
Aviator400
03-02-24, 16:59
You should really study so you can have acceptable level of communication with Spanish, the rest you can augment with translation using your phone. The girls are way much more understanding that the common person when it comes to this. Red Flags are numerous and speaking English at you is one of them. Besides if you know it you will sound much more attractive to the girls when you try Spanish with a bit of good (not the ugly American) accent no matter how slow you speak. Work on the accent and study descriptive sentences.
My second point is the most important though. If you find a ravishing girl with excellent attitude then consider yourself the luckiest person because it is rare. Forget that, it is hard to find a girl with true and good attitude period. So you got to be selective. If you are likable and are good in selecting carefully you can have a time of your life.I am using DuoLingo to learn some Spanish. The girls get a little wetter when I tell them that I am learning out of respect for their country.
OTOH Please stay away from the girls that speak English well. My ATF is a living doll and is fluent. I want her to myself as much as possible. 😉.
Cocr Brotheler
03-03-24, 02:33
Does he wear glasses and have a full head of hair? And also an anal retentive vibe LOL?
I remembered that description being very rude to me one time.
Does he wear glasses and have a full head of hair? And also an anal retentive vibe LOL?
I remembered that description being very rude to me one time.He looks like the devilish looking guy in the music video of "can't feel my face" by the weekend.
Flawless Zeal
03-07-24, 19:49
I've seen people say there's no problem bringing in a girl from outside into your room at Cascadas, but I've also seen people say escorts won't go to Zona Norte. Is that differentiating between street girls who will come to Cascadas and escorts from an agency, who typically will not? And escorts at agencies are nearly all outcall only, right?
Explorer8939
03-07-24, 22:30
It is really useful to speak Spanish with the ladies, there are a lot who can't speak English.
I've seen people say there's no problem bringing in a girl from outside into your room at Cascadas, but I've also seen people say escorts won't go to Zona Norte. Is that differentiating between street girls who will come to Cascadas and escorts from an agency, who typically will not? And escorts at agencies are nearly all outcall only, right?There is no generalization, but generally () you can assume agency escorts would not come to zona norte hotels. Some independents (even seeking arrangements) would and some others won't. All street girls if not attached to a hotel would come to any hotel in the zona however you can say almost all street girls who stand outside a hotel are attached to that hotel hence will not go anywhere else. Even in this situation there are exceptions.
Bar girls would only go to the hotel associated with that Bar, period. If you date a bar girl outside her work hours you can have her in a hotel in the zona or anywhere else you want. However you can't have her in a Hotel attached to the club she works, if you do they will charge you (force you to buy) a bucket of beer. There are exceptions here as well, one scenario is, if you or her are good friends with the security guys, you give them some amount of propina and they can let her pass. I don't advise this though, just take her to a different hotel.
Aviator400
03-08-24, 01:18
I've seen people say there's no problem bringing in a girl from outside into your room at Cascadas, but I've also seen people say escorts won't go to Zona Norte. Is that differentiating between street girls who will come to Cascadas and escorts from an agency, who typically will not? And escorts at agencies are nearly all outcall only, right?My experience is that street girls and girls that are not and have never been employed by HK or BT can go to your room at Cascadas or Rizo as long as they have ID. Disclaimer: HK, Cascadas, et al, change the rules on a whim, so this information might not be accurate. "At a whim" is defined as how they feel at any given moment. There is no time frame or consistency provided. These "rules" are not posted or published anywhere. They are not always enforced.
Personal Experiences:
O I have taken several street girls to my rooms at both hotels without issues or additional charges. Rarely are they in the room for more than an hour. On one occasion, the street girl was in my room for about two hours. No knock and no grief. However, there have been RUMORS that Cascadas and Rizo are starting to charge for having a street girl in your room.
O I attempted to take a HK girl who was off the clock to my room for the night. Cascadas wanted a bar fine of $300. We went to a different hotel and have been meeting at a downtown hotel every few months since. (Note that I have known this girl for six years and had her in my rooms overnight about once every two months. One night about 18 months ago, Security stopped her and escorted her to my room where they demanded the $300 bar fine. It was the first I had ever heard of it.).
O I attempted to take a BT girl who was off the clock to my room for the night. Cascadas wanted a bar fine of $300. We went to a different hotel.
O Attempted to take a off the clock CC girl to my Cascadas room for a night. Because four years before she had worked at HK for a few months, they wanted a $300 bar fine.
O Attempted to take a La Caretta girl to my Cascadas room before her shift was over. LC wanted a $200 bar fine. I took her to Cascadas after her shift was over to avoid the LC bar fine. Because she had worked at HK for a few months several years ago, HK wanted a $300 bar fine.
Friends have reported sometimes they have the girls in their room for extended periods or overnight with no grief / bar fine. I am guessing that they were forgotten about, got lucky or otherwise overlooked. One said his girl knows how to get into Rizo without going through security; however, he wouldn't identify her or explain how she succeeded. I don't blame him.
Friends have also reported getting "busted" for having HK / BT girls in their room for extended periods / overnight and being forced to pay a bar fine, typically $300 but several reported being hit for $400. (Most didn't pay it; they dismissed the girl and / or went to another hotel.).
The HK group has gotten extremely greedy of late. Bar fines. Increased room rates. Increased drink prices. I have been voting with my dollars. Now I book a room downtown and I hunt in the bars for girls to add to my speed dial list. Then meet them at another hotel. This has worked out very well both financially and enjoying extended times with both (or sometimes all three) parties relaxed.
YMMV.
Hong Kong beer price now $6. I paid $6 plus tip for a beer this week (last week it was $5 plus tip). All types of beer $6 and bucket $60. It's officially on the price list on the wall.
BrotherMouzone
03-08-24, 16:46
Hong Kong beer price now $6. I paid $6 plus tip for a beer this week (last week it was $5 plus tip). All types of beer $6 and bucket $60. It's officially on the price list on the wall.$6 is crazy to me. One of the appeals of Tijuana for me has always been the seemingly universally cheap beer prices throughout the city (at least relative to the US).
BrotherMouzone
03-08-24, 16:54
My experience is that street girls and girls that are not and have never been employed by HK or BT can go to your room at Cascadas or Rizo as long as they have ID. Disclaimer: HK, Cascadas, et al, change the rules on a whim, so this information might not be accurate. "At a whim" is defined as how they feel at any given moment. There is no time frame or consistency provided. These "rules" are not posted or published anywhere. They are not always enforced.
Your post was very insightful, thanks. Only related input I have is a year or so ago a regular I see who worked at Tropical at the time came up to my room at Cascadas (HK) a couple of times during the daytime on her own time without issues. She was relatively new to Tropical (had previously worked at Adelitas) so maybe she flew under the radar that way, I don't know. She now works at HK so doubt she'd be able to come up to my room on her own time again but I'll check and see with her next time I'm there in a couple months.
Friends have also reported getting "busted" for having HK / BT girls in their room for extended periods / overnight and being forced to pay a bar fine, typically $300 but several reported being hit for $400. (Most didn't pay it; they dismissed the girl and / or went to another hotel.).
The HK group has gotten extremely greedy of late. Bar fines. Increased room rates. Increased drink prices. I have been voting with my dollars. Now I book a room downtown and I hunt in the bars for girls to add to my speed dial list. Then meet them at another hotel. This has worked out very well both financially and enjoying extended times with both (or sometimes all three) parties relaxed.
YMMV.It's pretty funny that the more the new HK management tries to gouge prices and play games with customers, the more we work around the system. Nowadays I also take them out to eat away from that shitty attached restaurant and skip Cascadas all together. Even on the weekdays. I think tipping the bathroom guy is about the only consistent spending I still do at HK.
LuvMexicanas
03-08-24, 21:03
It's pretty funny that the more the new HK management tries to gouge prices and play games with customers, the more we work around the system. Nowadays I also take them out to eat away from that shitty attached restaurant and skip Cascadas all together. Even on the weekdays. I think tipping the bathroom guy is about the only consistent spending I still do at HK.I pretty much don't go unless it's a dive bombing run to collect numbers.
$6 is crazy to me. One of the appeals of Tijuana for me has always been the seemingly universally cheap beer prices throughout the city (at least relative to the US).I don't even buy a drink in hk. Rarely if I use 2 for 1 coupon. Basically I drink in hotel hang in hk 35 minutes drink in tropical then drink in 1 more bar before bed.
I don't even buy a drink in hk. Rarely if I use 2 for 1 coupon. Basically I drink in hotel hang in hk 35 minutes drink in tropical then drink in 1 more bar before bed.35 minutes is very specific.
I am curious. What's special about 35 minutes?
It's pretty funny that the more the new HK management tries to gouge prices and play games with customers, the more we work around the system. Nowadays I also take them out to eat away from that shitty attached restaurant and skip Cascadas all together. Even on the weekdays. I think tipping the bathroom guy is about the only consistent spending I still do at HK.Always found it odd to have a bathroom attendant, but then saw them in LV clubs too. I doubt HK misses the lost patrons at all since they keep raising prices and it is still a sausage fest in the place. I'm thinking if they keep raising prices and have a cover charge, then it would reduce the number of patrons. Sometimes the place is standing room only and I see plenty of tables with bottle service, but then again it is probably mandatory in order to reserve the table.
Explorer8939
03-10-24, 13:36
The fate of HK is that prices will continue to rise, until one day nobody goes. And they will never come back.
Like Adelitas before it closed.
Rainman306
03-10-24, 18:37
With beers going to $6, just inquiring what the cheapest drink is now?
I'll drink soda or water, I don't really care. I can drink beer / booze cheaper elsewhere before or after.
A lot of time I drink Coca-Cola in HK. I believe a coke from oxxo would be just over $1, so wonder how much HK can try to gouge for that.
LuvMexicanas
03-10-24, 19:57
A lot of time I drink Coca-Cola in HK. I believe a coke from oxxo would be just over $1, so wonder how much HK can try to gouge for that.Then tell us what you paid. Why are you asking the price of Coca Cola when you said yourself that you've drank it a lot of the time in HK?
Beer prices going down means P*sy price going up? I wonder.
BrotherMouzone
03-11-24, 01:43
With beers going to $6, just inquiring what the cheapest drink is now?
I'll drink soda or water, I don't really care. I can drink beer / booze cheaper elsewhere before or after.
A lot of time I drink Coca-Cola in HK. I believe a coke from oxxo would be just over $1, so wonder how much HK can try to gouge for that.Well $6 is expensive but it's not exorbitant LOL. And if you order directly from the bar (as opposed to ordering from a mesero) you can skip the tip if you really want to save $$ As someone who's very frugal myself, I like to stock up on beers from OXXO or more frequently one of the supermarkets nearby (Soriana on Revolucion or the Calimax a few blocks away) and pre-drink in my room or the small sports bar downstairs before heading to HK.
With beers going to $6, just inquiring what the cheapest drink is now?
I'll drink soda or water, I don't really care. I can drink beer / booze cheaper elsewhere before or after.
A lot of time I drink Coca-Cola in HK. I believe a coke from oxxo would be just over $1, so wonder how much HK can try to gouge for that.If HK still has the 2 for 1 coupon it's only $3. Or if your VIP you get a free drink. So you still have cheaper options. Now if you want to sit and drink In HK your paying for all the scenery.
Plenty of cheap places to drink in Tijuana you just won't be looking at girls as attractive as HK.
If HK is smart they would keep the soda price and water price the same as beer.
KetoAndKettle
03-11-24, 04:00
I'm guessing you have become a guru at getting to the point with the chica before the mesero arrives like speedy fkn gonzales to demand a drink sales.
Well $6 is expensive but it's not exorbitant LOL. And if you order directly from the bar (as opposed to ordering from a mesero) you can skip the tip if you really want to save $$ As someone who's very frugal myself, I like to stock up on beers from OXXO or more frequently one of the supermarkets nearby (Soriana on Revolucion or the Calimax a few blocks away) and pre-drink in my room or the small sports bar downstairs before heading to HK.
Well $6 is expensive but it's not exorbitant LOL. And if you order directly from the bar (as opposed to ordering from a mesero) you can skip the tip if you really want to save $$ As someone who's very frugal myself, I like to stock up on beers from OXXO or more frequently one of the supermarkets nearby (Soriana on Revolucion or the Calimax a few blocks away) and pre-drink in my room or the small sports bar downstairs before heading to HK.Bartenders will eye up and down if you don't tip them with a $1.
Bartenders will eye up and down if you don't tip them with a $1.Most bartenders never pay attention to weather I tip or not because they are busy with the drinks.
BrotherMouzone
03-11-24, 20:19
Bartenders will eye up and down if you don't tip them with a $1.That's 100% true for meseros, but I've honestly never been given a side eye from a bartender for not tipping. Though it might depend on the time you go. I'm usually at HK during peak business hours (10 pm-3 am range) when the bartenders are usually way too busy filling various orders from customers and meseros to worry about which customers are tipping and which aren't. But I'll also note that I do usually tip, only times I don't tip is when I don't happen to have that extra $1 (or $20 peso) in my wallet or if I'm low on cash and wanting to save that dollar for something else.
That's 100% true for meseros, but I've honestly never been given a side eye from a bartender for not tipping. Though it might depend on the time you go. I'm usually at HK during peak business hours (10 pm-3 am range) when the bartenders are usually way too busy filling various orders from customers and meseros to worry about which customers are tipping and which aren't. But I'll also note that I do usually tip, only times I don't tip is when I don't happen to have that extra $1 (or $20 peso) in my wallet or if I'm low on cash and wanting to save that dollar for something else.If you break your 20's to 1's they expect a tip. If you order a drink from them they expect a tip. If you use your free ticket they expect a tip. Talking about the bar tenders. Heck if you ask them to clean the table by the bar in front of you they expect a tip.
Most bartenders never pay attention to weather I tip or not because they are busy with the drinks.That is when they are extremely busy.
If you break your 20's to 1's they expect a tip. If you order a drink from them they expect a tip. If you use your free ticket they expect a tip. Talking about the bar tenders. Heck if you ask them to clean the table by the bar in front of you they expect a tip.Again I've never experienced anything like this and many guys on this board will specifically order drinks from the bartenders because they're not as pushy as the waiters in their opinion. Also not sure why they intimidate you because once you pay and get your change you shouldn't be looking at the bartender but the girls dancing.
In regards to bartenders or waiters expecting a tip for your free drink why is that unacceptable? If you go to a restaurant and have a coupon for a free meal wouldn't you still tip the server based on the value of the meal because they are still doing the same service?
That is when they are extremely busy.I don't go to the bars when they are extremely busy since I try to avoid as many people as possible when I visit.
BrotherMouzone
03-12-24, 16:29
I'm guessing you have become a guru at getting to the point with the chica before the mesero arrives like speedy fkn gonzales to demand a drink sales.Eh, if I think I'm probably going to take a chica arriba I don't mind grabbing a table and buying her a drink or two, LOL. But other than that I'm usually sitting at the bar or standing so I don't have to deal with pushy meseros. I don't remember the last time I bought a chica a drink that I didn't go arriba with. It's been years probably.
If you break your 20's to 1's they expect a tip. If you order a drink from them they expect a tip. If you use your free ticket they expect a tip. Talking about the bar tenders. Heck if you ask them to clean the table by the bar in front of you they expect a tip.I don't tip bartenders to break a 20 for singles. 95% of time they don't ask for a tip. I do give a dollar when I break a 20 and get a beer from them. I make sure they see it and it doesn't go to tje girl dancing on the stage that's the bar table. In tropical I give 10 peso tips to bartenders. I try avoid waitersbin all bars. I usually go with 3 or 4 10 peso coins. May spund cheap but I was going 3 nights a week for 8 yrs. It ads up.
I was going 3 nights a week for 8 yrs. It ads up.That is way too frequent. That means you lived 40% of your life in Tijuana for the last 8 years assuming you are staying there for 3 nights every week. Whew! If I were you, I would always use VIP cards for Hotels, only go on Monday to Wed and get the heck out on Thur. I would never spend a dime for drinks in the bars. Limit the propina to chicas. Have regulars that are happy for $80/ hour, see two girls every week and that is it. If you fly in (which I don't think your are) buy SW tickets in advance, use a GE for TSA Precheks and SW frequent flyer benefits. Tijuana is expensive to frequent so much.
BrotherMouzone
03-13-24, 16:58
I don't tip bartenders to break a 20 for singles. 95% of time they don't ask for a tip. I do give a dollar when I break a 20 and get a beer from them. I make sure they see it and it doesn't go to tje girl dancing on the stage that's the bar table. In tropical I give 10 peso tips to bartenders. I try avoid waitersbin all bars. I usually go with 3 or 4 10 peso coins. May spund cheap but I was going 3 nights a week for 8 yrs. It ads up.10 peso tips. Probably not for the meseros, but for the bartenders I like that idea and will look to incorporate that into my repertoire, thanks LOL.
With beers going to $6, just inquiring what the cheapest drink is now?
I'll drink soda or water, I don't really care. I can drink beer / booze cheaper elsewhere before or after.
A lot of time I drink Coca-Cola in HK. I believe a coke from oxxo would be just over $1, so wonder how much HK can try to gouge for that.Coca Cola, Coca Cola light, Bottled water, mineral water $5. All beers $6. Cocktail drinks like Margarita, Pina Colada, Long Island, Sex on the Beach $8. (Sex on the beach cocktail was strong) Jagermeister shot $8. If you have a Hong Kong VIP card, you get a free drink. I always order expensive drinks, e. G. Tequila "Don Julio 70" or the excellent "Torres 10" brandy imported from Spain (10 years old).
BrotherMouzone
03-14-24, 16:09
That is way too frequent. That means you lived 40% of your life in Tijuana for the last 8 years assuming you are staying there for 3 nights every week. Whew! If I were you, I would always use VIP cards for Hotels, only go on Monday to Wed and get the heck out on Thur. I would never spend a dime for drinks in the bars. Limit the propina to chicas. Have regulars that are happy for $80/ hour, see two girls every week and that is it. If you fly in (which I don't think your are) buy SW tickets in advance, use a GE for TSA Precheks and SW frequent flyer benefits. Tijuana is expensive to frequent so much.I'm with you, but some of the posters here are legit addicts. Couldn't begin to imagine hanging out in Tijuana that much. Aside from the cost I'd get burnt out pretty quick. I'm good with my 2 or 3 times a year from out of town for a few days at a time, LOL.
I'm with you, but some of the posters here are legit addicts. Couldn't begin to imagine hanging out in Tijuana that much. Aside from the cost I'd get burnt out pretty quick. I'm good with my 2 or 3 times a year from out of town for a few days at a time, LOL.Yep, it is possible most who frequent there are addicted to the life style. It not only consumes you financially, it also takes over your thoughts, your online activities, affect people close to you amost definitely are ignoring them, you live for the next trip, you can't plan things, search for better jobs. , etc.
One positive thing may be is you probably make the effort you stay fit physically because you know otherwise you can't function in bed. You try to keep your physical strength, your stamina and flexibility in tip top shape.
Guess who most of this applies to, yours truly right here, myself.
I'm with you, but some of the posters here are legit addicts. Couldn't begin to imagine hanging out in Tijuana that much. Aside from the cost I'd get burnt out pretty quick. I'm good with my 2 or 3 times a year from out of town for a few days at a time, LOL.I stayed for 10 days straight, alone, right after the pandemic in 2021 and I got depressed on the 6th day on. Never again. 3 days a week non stop year around, that will crap me out real quick. Even the consistent once a Month, 3 days I am doing now is already too much. It has consumed my thoughts. I do not like it.
Explorer8939
03-15-24, 04:06
I just finished 4 days with a stripper from HK, in Cancun.
She had lots of stories about the chicas, the customers and the meseros.
Oh, yes, there was a lot of nudity and sex.
Don't try this unless your Spanish is pretty good, since she had zero English. She picked up that I learned Spanish in Puebla from my vocabulary.
Yep, it is possible most who frequent there are addicted to the life style. It not only consumes you financially, it also takes over your thoughts, your online activities, affect people close to you amost definitely are ignoring them, you live for the next trip, you can't plan things, search for better jobs. , etc.
One positive thing may be is you probably make the effort you stay fit physically because you know otherwise you can't function in bed. You try to keep your physical strength, your stamina and flexibility in tip top shape.
Guess who most of this applies to, yours truly right here, myself.Well, I can't think of a better addiction. After all, sex is good for your prostrate, your psyche / ego and also for retaining your inner youth. And as for physical fitness you are right, Mr. Z. The thought of sex with multiple sexy partners indeed motivates me to walk 1 -2 hours a day and plank a minute or so. Moreover, what could be better than banging and getting blown by busty, young beauties with smiling faces from different countries? My body count is 24 (different) girls from PI and Thailand so far this year. So, a good Q1. Up next: Good Morning Vietnam and Indomnesia and also other parts of PI. Then Dominican Republic later this year, Land of the Giant Boobs. I can hardly wait and I almost never think of HK any more altho I had a lot of good times there as well as Adelitas but I was living in California then. BTW I'm 68, living in PI. Salud!
Robert Goulet
03-16-24, 00:46
It's been well over a year, looking forward to the visit. I typically never leave the HK, hotel or Azul unless to run across to the convenience store.
Have be in Arizona for a meeting Monday morning. If I'm that close after flying cross country figured got to pay a visit.
Hope to avoid the fish pussy and going to give the spa a try as well.
You will get better service and avoid the 40 dollar room fee, and 12 dollar drinksIncorrect, the drinks for the chicas are $11 or 187 pesos. Get your facts straight.
AmericanPi
03-16-24, 16:43
That is way too frequent. That means you lived 40% of your life in Tijuana for the last 8 years assuming you are staying there for 3 nights every week. Whew! If I were you, I would always use VIP cards for Hotels, only go on Monday to Wed and get the heck out on Thur. I would never spend a dime for drinks in the bars. Limit the propina to chicas. Have regulars that are happy for $80/ hour, see two girls every week and that is it. If you fly in (which I don't think your are) buy SW tickets in advance, use a GE for TSA Precheks and SW frequent flyer benefits. Tijuana is expensive to frequent so much.Agreed. Sometimes I think I have a bit of a fixation on this hobby because I'm always planning trips around where I'm going to find young hotties to bang. But I still do it only once every few months. I have a life and career outside of this. It does drive a lot of my decisions, like if I'm taking a work trip I'll almost always find a way to squeeze in a squeeze. But damn. 3 times a week for 8 years? I can't imagine that's good for your mental health. Even 1 time a week is way too often.
Agreed. Sometimes I think I have a bit of a fixation on this hobby because I'm always planning trips around where I'm going to find young hotties to bang. But I still do it only once every few months. I have a life and career outside of this. It does drive a lot of my decisions, like if I'm taking a work trip I'll almost always find a way to squeeze in a squeeze. But damn. 3 times a week for 8 years? I can't imagine that's good for your mental health. Even 1 time a week is way too often.I went to hk 3 x week for 7 months year for 8 yrs in row probably. Mich of the times I went was because 2 free beer coupons, then it was for my free vip drink, I was staying a 15 minute walk away 3 nights a week anyway. I'm not a TV person. I never felt like hk was too much. I complain about alot stuff in it but if I had even 100 k in the bank I'd probably start going again. But when I did go it was 95% to hang out and drink. If I had money, I'd defiantly bnag those girls every single time.
It's been well over a year, looking forward to the visit. I typically never leave the HK, hotel or Azul unless to run across to the convenience store.
Have be in Arizona for a meeting Monday morning. If I'm that close after flying cross country figured got to pay a visit.
Hope to avoid the fish pussy and going to give the spa a try as well.Then we probably pass by each other, probably rub shoulders as we move and mingle in the corridors of sin of HK.
BrotherMouzone
03-17-24, 17:56
I went to hk 3 x week for 7 months year for 8 yrs in row probably. Mich of the times I went was because 2 free beer coupons, then it was for my free vip drink, I was staying a 15 minute walk away 3 nights a week anyway. I'm not a TV person. I never felt like hk was too much. I complain about alot stuff in it but if I had even 100 k in the bank I'd probably start going again. But when I did go it was 95% to hang out and drink. If I had money, I'd defiantly bnag those girls every single time.Well there's a reason those clubs give out free drink coupons. If I could hook people coming into a club I owned at the frequency you were going I'd give out free drink coupons too, LOL. But to each his own. If you enjoy those clubs like that, you should go as much as you want. For me personally, those Zona Norte clubs are great in doses but I'd get sick of it pretty quick even if I was going just a couple times or so a month. The constant parade of girls selling drinks, selling arribas, begging for tips, etc. Gets old, regardless of how hot they are IMO. Maybe that's just my mindset now as I'm getting older, not sure I would've felt the same way in my 20's LOL. Going to Tijuana 2-3 times or so a year works perfectly for me.
Even if you're relying mostly on the free drinks, the dollars you spend here and there going to those clubs at that frequency slowly but surely add up.
BrotherMouzone
03-17-24, 18:07
Yep, it is possible most who frequent there are addicted to the life style. It not only consumes you financially, it also takes over your thoughts, your online activities, affect people close to you amost definitely are ignoring them, you live for the next trip, you can't plan things, search for better jobs. , etc.
Reminds me of a guy (American dude) I met at Adelitas several years ago. We were talking and he asked me if I wanted feedback on any of the chicas because he'd "fucked every girl in the club". I laughed but we got to talking a bit more and he was actually being dead serious. Not literally every girl but he'd apparently slept with the overwhelming majority of the regular chicas (which was a LOT of the girls in the club that night). He wasn't even an old guy but had been doing the Zona Norte scene for 20+ years, since he was a teenager, and described himself as an "addict".
Flawless Zeal
03-17-24, 18:50
This is along the lines of the current discussion -- I am about to book my first trip to Tijuana, my read from the forum is that Cascadas is a good choice for a first trip. I see a lot of people saying 3 days in Tijuana is plenty, but if it is your first time and Tijuana is all new to you, is 5 nights too many?
Baxter Slade
03-17-24, 21:34
This is along the lines of the current discussion -- I am about to book my first trip to Tijuana, my read from the forum is that Cascadas is a good choice for a first trip. I see a lot of people saying 3 days in Tijuana is plenty, but if it is your first time and Tijuana is all new to you, is 5 nights too many?5 nights wouldn't be bad if you throw in a little sightseeing or something, but 5 in the zone norte might be to much. While packing and unpacking can be a hassle I would consider a few nights in the zona and maybe a couple at hotel Ticuan. A comfy bed can be much appreciated after a couple wild nights in prostitution central.
LuvMexicanas
03-17-24, 23:01
This is along the lines of the current discussion -- I am about to book my first trip to Tijuana, my read from the forum is that Cascadas is a good choice for a first trip. I see a lot of people saying 3 days in Tijuana is plenty, but if it is your first time and Tijuana is all new to you, is 5 nights too many?Your dick, your time, your money so not sure why you think there's some magic number of nights for the perfect trip duration. None of us here have a crystal ball or the ability to read your mind.
Reminds me of a guy (American dude) I met at Adelitas several years ago. We were talking and he asked me if I wanted feedback on any of the chicas because he'd "fucked every girl in the club". I laughed but we got to talking a bit more and he was actually being dead serious. Not literally every girl but he'd apparently slept with the overwhelming majority of the regular chicas (which was a LOT of the girls in the club that night). He wasn't even an old guy but had been doing the Zona Norte scene for 20+ years, since he was a teenager, and described himself as an "addict".After my divorce in 2018 I went to HK about 5 to 6 times a week for over three years and blew threw a ton of money. I lost a good job and also contacted Covid not to mention HPV and Chlamydia a couple of times. All I have to show for it are a few videos and some pictures with the girls. In then end it wasn't worth it and therapy with a good counselor would have been much cheaper. I have been mongering since 1998 in the Navy so 26 years. I feel horrible but last time I went to Tijuana I just banged my 2 regulars and didn't even do to the clubs. Now one is getting married and the other ghosted me LOL. Guess sooner or later I will be back in the clubs again, or maybe I just castrate myself and never have sex again LOL. Anyways for the sake of your sanity do not ever fall in love with a prostitute, escort, or a stripper, unless you like pain.
Flawless Zeal
03-18-24, 04:47
Your dick, your time, your money so not sure why you think there's some magic number of nights for the perfect trip duration. None of us here have a crystal ball or the ability to read your mind.Really was not an outlandish question of people's opinions, particularly given the recent discussion of how much is too much when it comes to visiting here generally.
Flawless Zeal
03-18-24, 04:48
5 nights wouldn't be bad if you throw in a little sightseeing or something, but 5 in the zone norte might be to much. While packing and unpacking can be a hassle I would consider a few nights in the zona and maybe a couple at hotel Ticuan. A comfy bed can be much appreciated after a couple wild nights in prostitution central.Thank you, that sounds like a good idea.
LuvMexicanas
03-18-24, 05:22
Really was not an outlandish question of people's opinions, particularly given the recent discussion of how much is too much when it comes to visiting here generally.It's not about other people's opinions. It's about you. We know nothing about you. For some guys, one night is enough and for others five nights barely enough.
Dcrist0527
03-18-24, 18:07
After my divorce in 2018 I went to HK about 5 to 6 times a week for over three years and blew threw a ton of money. I lost a good job and also contacted Covid not to mention HPV and Chlamydia a couple of times. All I have to show for it are a few videos and some pictures with the girls. In then end it wasn't worth it and therapy with a good counselor would have been much cheaper. I have been mongering since 1998 in the Navy so 26 years. I feel horrible but last time I went to Tijuana I just banged my 2 regulars and didn't even do to the clubs. Now one is getting married and the other ghosted me LOL. Guess sooner or later I will be back in the clubs again, or maybe I just castrate myself and never have sex again LOL. Anyways for the sake of your sanity do not ever fall in love with a prostitute, escort, or a stripper, unless you like pain.Truer words have never been spoken on this board. I'd go one step further. You can get addicted to the party and the ability to take a different girl every night just as easily as falling in love. Like you, SeaBee, I'm left with photos and a ton of memories. I have absolutely no clue how but I avoided STDs. I generally play safe but nothing is 100% foolproof. I've been "hobbying" for about 12-15 years, mostly in international lands. I'm compelled to add my two cents in because, at the end of the day, I often wonder if it's all worth it. I've gone through an insane amount of money. I had two decent relationships, made lots of amigas that have mostly come and gone. And like I said, alot of great memories and crazy stories. Sitting here today, would I rather have that pile of cash or the memories? I'm not sure. But there is an undeniable emptiness in our hobby. It just feels like an endless game with no real end. I don't want a relationship. I'm not a trophy hunter. So what is the end game for me? Who knows. I just appreciate you sharing, SeaBee.
After my divorce in 2018 I went to HK about 5 to 6 times a week for over three years and blew threw a ton of money. I lost a good job and also contacted Covid not to mention HPV and Chlamydia a couple of times. All I have to show for it are a few videos and some pictures with the girls. In then end it wasn't worth it and therapy with a good counselor would have been much cheaper. I have been mongering since 1998 in the Navy so 26 years. I feel horrible but last time I went to Tijuana I just banged my 2 regulars and didn't even do to the clubs. Now one is getting married and the other ghosted me LOL. Guess sooner or later I will be back in the clubs again, or maybe I just castrate myself and never have sex again LOL. Anyways for the sake of your sanity do not ever fall in love with a prostitute, escort, or a stripper, unless you like pain.Damn these hoes got thr better of you. Maybe being broke helped me avoid health problems. I don't look at the sex with any regret. More than half the bar girls were genuinely enjoying my company because some didn't charge me. But that stuff ended even before covid when $ became everyone's obsession in mexixo.
AmericanPi
03-19-24, 14:38
I went to hk 3 x week for 7 months year for 8 yrs in row probably. Mich of the times I went was because 2 free beer coupons, then it was for my free vip drink, I was staying a 15 minute walk away 3 nights a week anyway. I'm not a TV person. I never felt like hk was too much. I complain about alot stuff in it but if I had even 100 k in the bank I'd probably start going again. But when I did go it was 95% to hang out and drink. If I had money, I'd defiantly bnag those girls every single time.Not judging dude. But that's too much. Places like HK are a break from reality. If they become your daily reality it's a problem. Because that reality has to end sometime, and not easily. Out of money, illness, body pushes back. Somehow some way and you need a better day to day reality to return to.
I'm kind of sad hearing stories of guys who show up multiple times a week over long periods of time like it's a job. That's a sign you need help.
Captain Solo
03-19-24, 15:05
CBJoe.
How would you compare the pain divorcing your wife with the ant bites pain with the putas?
You had years of sex with the putas and fun with your friends in La Zona. That's more than 99% US male population can even dream of. Look at what Trump has to pay for acting out his sexual impulses. Certainly you can't and don't want to screw your old, ugly counselor. Or perhaps you want to try your luck with Sheriff Judd of Polk county?
You should be happy you still have your sex drive. Without it life is boring and not worth living.
I certainly enjoyed your friendship when we met in the club.
Explorer8939
03-19-24, 16:07
This is along the lines of the current discussion -- I am about to book my first trip to Tijuana, my read from the forum is that Cascadas is a good choice for a first trip. I see a lot of people saying 3 days in Tijuana is plenty, but if it is your first time and Tijuana is all new to you, is 5 nights too many?Try a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday night stay at Cascadas. Cheaper, and less customers in the bar.
Explorer8939
03-19-24, 16:09
A warning from a bargirl: there is a shark in the bar. Her MO is lots of kissing in the bar, she offers to do "everything" upstairs for X dollars, and once upstairs, gets the money first, does a mechanical 3 minute fuck, no extras. If the customer complains, she calls Security.
Allegedly, this bargirl can clear $1,000 per night.
Captain Solo
03-19-24, 16:48
Was in la Zona Tuesday night, booked a room in Cascada, $26 with the special VIP discount Monday and Tuesday, with free breakfast in Azul the next morning. Hong Kong is one hell of a good deal even compared to Asia.
I drank a lot of beers, cruising the club, looking for my favoritas and new talents. Lots of new hot talents in Hong Kong, even on Tuesday night. Many old timers started early. Airelli was nice and sweet as usual. Krystal of Guadalajara was back leaning on the hand rail with her big butt and seductive smile. Tiffany was back with long, dark brown hair. She was a wingman's favorita, used to be a very hot stripper but has now grown older and gained weight. Frieda with her signature black plastic eyeglass seemed motivated, dancing on bars and the poles, trying to attract business. She gained some weight; her butt looked bigger, out of proportion with her A boobs. Her face has grown older, wiser and serious like Mother Superior. She's stiff, unengaged, restrictive in bed, her demeanors are like a stern nun, not that I ever seduced or bagged any nun.
In Chavelas, two dozen girls were sitting in groups at table, waiting for release into HK. Gave propinas to a few girls, squeezing their boobs. I wish they would walk around showing off their real figure and not sitting, hiding their chunky bodies and big butts behind the tables. A smiling, bubbly girl called out to me. I sat with her at the table in the open right across from the passage way to HK, bought her a ficha. She was not the hottest or youngest girl but her bubbly, happy personality made her fun to be with. We quickly deep kiss and grope each other.
She got on my lap doing some serious grinding, all the while talking long, excited sentences, then she sat down, squeezing me all over with a hand under my brief, stroking. This girl knew how to sexually arouse guys. I already had a session but my dick was growing hard and fast. Mesero came back selling another ficha but I would rather bag her in bed than sit in the club. She wanted $100. I countered with 1,000 pesos. She did some mental calculations, asked me how much that was in dollars hehe. Finally she agreed to go up for 1,200, about $73 at current exchange.
We went up to my room. Cascada security guys took down her name and room number ect. They raised concerns about something in her hand bag but let us go through. She took off her clothes, nice all natural body but not exactly youthful. I figured she was late 20's. I invited her to my bottles of wine and tequila but she declined. She took out a tiny butt of marijuana from her hand bag, drew a few long breath and blew the smoke up the toilet exhaust.
I was rubbing her clit while sucking on her tits. She wanted lube and gentle touches, got aroused hissing through her teeth. She gave me a serious BBBJ but refused BB penetration, said she would do it for $100. She got on top and went wild with CG, ramming her wet pussy hard on my dick, moaning, groaning. I got on top in mish, screwed her hard and long, sucking on her mouth. She was thrashing and moaning. We were screwing each other like animals hehe. This girl was horny and sexy, more so than most girls I have met. Her body stiffened up with her Os. I popped and laid back to rest. She waited a few minutes then started groping, sucking my dick, got it hard, climbed on top doing CG and RCG, ramming her pussy on my dick to get another O. Man, she was horny and sexy.
We laid back resting, talking with Voice Translate. She spoke long, fast sentences but it translated perfectly in the quiet room, not so good in the noisy club. She said from Sinaloa, Jalisco, new in HK, lives in Rosarito. We spent a long time talking. She said she started the shift at 5 PM to 1 AM, but due to light attendance, management pushed shift start out to 7 PM to 3 AM. She was working 10 hour that night, but some nights not making any money. She stayed about 2 hours, afraid management would look for and punish her, but there was no knock on the door. She put on her clothes, took out her phone to convert the 1200 P to dollar and nodded. She gave me her tel, repeatedly complained, " No mas mota. " Looks like she's high on mota everyday in Rosarito.
Lots of girls start work in HK but make little to no money and give up after a week. There are lots of desperate girls in Hong Kong.
Truer words have never been spoken on this board. I'd go one step further. You can get addicted to the party and the ability to take a different girl every night just as easily as falling in love. Like you, SeaBee, I'm left with photos and a ton of memories. I have absolutely no clue how but I avoided STDs. I generally play safe but nothing is 100% foolproof. I've been "hobbying" for about 12-15 years, mostly in international lands. I'm compelled to add my two cents in because, at the end of the day, I often wonder if it's all worth it. I've gone through an insane amount of money. I had two decent relationships, made lots of amigas that have mostly come and gone. And like I said, alot of great memories and crazy stories. Sitting here today, would I rather have that pile of cash or the memories? I'm not sure. But there is an undeniable emptiness in our hobby. It just feels like an endless game with no real end. I don't want a relationship. I'm not a trophy hunter. So what is the end game for me? Who knows. I just appreciate you sharing, SeaBee.Wow I'm surprised anyone has regrets over the times in Tijuana and other escorts. As much as I complain and have no savings left after buying another car last week I still do not regret the probably 20 k I spent in Zona over 8 yrs. I only count the $ on tips ficha and sex because I always need food and beer and hotels anyway.
StubbornMule
03-20-24, 03:50
Finally getting around to writing this report. Spent Sunday evening to Wednesday morning at Cascadas; used the VIP card to get some juicy room discounts. Sessioned with 4 girls: Mafer, Now, Mabeline, and Lili. Mafer was amazing, really sweet girl. Picked her up in Tropical. Now was ok; she had great breasts and was very sweet, but she wasn't quite my type, maybe just a shade too thick for me. I'd seen Mabeline before on previous trips and she recognized me. She is able to make me finish when I think I am drained. I spied Lili from across the room. She has a perfect ass which she posed to great effect at a strategic point in the room. She was great. All in all a worthwhile trip.
ABAJoeSmith123
03-20-24, 05:42
CBJoe.
How would you compare the pain divorcing your wife with the ant bites pain with the putas?
You had years of sex with the putas and fun with your friends in La Zona. That's more than 99% US male population can even dream of. Look at what Trump has to pay for acting out his sexual impulses. Certainly you can't and don't want to screw your old, ugly counselor. Or perhaps you want to try your luck with Sheriff Judd of Polk county?
You should be happy you still have your sex drive. Without it life is boring and not worth living.
I certainly enjoyed your friendship when we met in the club.I understand the addiction. It's hard to not be addicted to Tijuana if you can afford it. Insanely beautiful women. Insanely erotic strippers who let you do anything with them that you could only fantasize about in America. The ability to have sex with pornstar level women that you would never even meet in person in America. I've probably spent over 40 k on Tijuana over last 4 years. Biggest regret for me I guess is knowing I can never actually have a real relationship with these women and take them back to america because of all the repercusions and social and financial ramifications it would entail if you married a prostitute / working girl from HK. Some of the girls at HK are actually very honest mothers just trying to get by and the reality is always depressing knowing what they go through there and that you can't really get them out of that scene.
The ability to interact with even semi remotely similarly attractive women in America is close to nonexistent for someone like me (average looking, non-blue eyed, nonwhite, not rich). Hence, the allure of Tijuana.
She got on my lap doing some serious grinding, all the while talking long, excited sentences, then she sat down, squeezing me all over with a hand under my brief, stroking. This girl knew how to sexually arouse guys. I already had a session but my dick was growing hard and fast. Mesero came back selling another ficha but I would rather bag her in bed than sit in the club. She wanted $100. I countered with 1,000 pesos. She did some mental calculations, asked me how much that was in dollars hehe. Finally she agreed to go up for 1,200, about $73 at current exchange.
She stayed about 2 hours ...
Lots of girls start work in HK but make little to no money and give up after a week. There are lots of desperate girls in Hong Kong.Great job getting a HK gal for 1200 pesos. And the fact that she stayed 2 hrs is incredible. Cheaper than a streetgal!!
I agree many HK gals make $0.
AmericanPi
03-20-24, 14:45
The ability to interact with even semi remotely similarly attractive women in America is close to nonexistent for someone like me (average looking, non-blue eyed, nonwhite, not rich). Hence, the allure of Tijuana.Serious question here. I've been seeing this phenomenon pop up on my TikTok called passport bros. The idea is American guys fed up with local women who go overseas to find foreign women who would love to marry an American man and change their lives.
I'm not stupid. I see all the flaws with this. But I can also still see it being good for some, with a strong prenup and the idea this is for a few years not forever. I see why guys do this.
Considered?
I understand the addiction. It's hard to not be addicted to Tijuana if you can afford it. Insanely beautiful women. Insanely erotic strippers who let you do anything with them that you could only fantasize about in America. The ability to have sex with pornstar level women that you would never even meet in person in America. I've probably spent over 40 k on Tijuana over last 4 years. Biggest regret for me I guess is knowing I can never actually have a real relationship with these women and take them back to america because of all the repercusions and social and financial ramifications it would entail if you married a prostitute / working girl from HK. Some of the girls at HK are actually very honest mothers just trying to get by and the reality is always depressing knowing what they go through there and that you can't really get them out of that scene.
The ability to interact with even semi remotely similarly attractive women in America is close to nonexistent for someone like me (average looking, non-blue eyed, nonwhite, not rich). Hence, the allure of Tijuana.Your being way to hard on yourself. You live in tje wrong area or are a lazy online searcher of woman. Many woman prefer non white. Shit even in Tijuana tje Haitian men be getting endless mexicsn woman in the clubs. In nyc and suburbs theres tons of woman for dating. Florida up down east coast very difficult. San diego very difficult. So alot has to do with where you live, and the effort. I have guy friends who won't spend the 35 minutes a day winking st every woman on tinder and bumble. They lazy. Theyvdont date. They look way better than me and make way more money. It's priorities. How important is finding woman? Any average guy should do more than fine with dating unless they live in bad area. Bad woman wise like san diego.
Captain Solo
03-20-24, 16:41
Some of the hottest girls are greedy, angry girls, would cut time short or short change guys on promised services. Would be nice to know their names or descriptions.
Marilyn AKA Lydia used to be the hottest young spinner in HK. She used to go with guys to hotel back to back. She gave me all kinds of resistance in bed, claimed I was hurting her tummy and put a pillow between us. Damn!
I found her in HK last week. She has grown much older and chunkier, looked flabby like an old grandma. It's karma!
Captain Solo
03-20-24, 16:48
While she was grinding on my lap, I got my hand inside her panties rubbing her clit. She got pretty wet in the club.
In the bed she got way too horny. If I had held out for 500 pesos street girls rate, she may have also accepted. If I got her hornier, she may even do it for free hehe.
Captain Solo
03-20-24, 19:00
While she was grinding on my lap, my hands were all over her body, squeezing her boobs, groping her crotch, one hand was inside her panties rubbing her clit hehe. She got very horny, pussy got wet; she was whining in my ear.
She got even more aroused and physical in bed, sucking on my tongue, ramming her crotch on mine, squirm, thrash, huff, puff. After I popped, she got me hard again for another ride. If I had countered and held out at 500 pesos in the club, maybe she would do it hehe. At the end she was relaxed and happy, but pouting repeatedly that she ran out of mota.
Nothing knows this girl well. If you want a ride of your life with this girl, may be a 3 some with Karumi, contact Nothing.
Serious question here. I've been seeing this phenomenon pop up on my TikTok called passport bros. The idea is American guys fed up with local women who go overseas to find foreign women who would love to marry an American man and change their lives.
I'm not stupid. I see all the flaws with this. But I can also still see it being good for some, with a strong prenup and the idea this is for a few years not forever. I see why guys do this.Considered?The key to meetinf hot women overseas is living your life in there country and never bring them back to the USA to get Americanized. That's way you can ensure they stay somewhat humble. Unfortunately social media is a cancer and ruins women and men for all the countries. I hate the people who invented social media like Mark Zuckerasshole. It was way better pre amart phone.
ABAJoeSmith123
03-21-24, 01:20
The key to meetinf hot women overseas is living your life in there country and never bring them back to the USA to get Americanized. That's way you can ensure they stay somewhat humble. Unfortunately social media is a cancer and ruins women and men for all the countries. I hate the people who invented social media like Mark Zuckerasshole. It was way better pre amart phone.Passport bros is a real thing. American women are incredibly entitled and incredibly ugly on the inside. The dating scene in America is terrible unless you're tom cruise looking or blonde haired white guy that Hollywood has placed on a pedestal in American society as the only type of man desirable. Foreign women, at least in Latin America are far more attractive and don't have that same excessive degree of entitlement and female superiority complex that American women have. It's much more pleasant interacting with Latin women than nasty American ones who are only looking to sue you, divorce you, or files charges against you if you do anything even remotely questionable.
Serious question here. I've been seeing this phenomenon pop up on my TikTok called passport bros. The idea is American guys fed up with local women who go overseas to find foreign women who would love to marry an American man and change their lives.
I'm not stupid. I see all the flaws with this. But I can also still see it being good for some, with a strong prenup and the idea this is for a few years not forever. I see why guys do this.
Considered?The cost for the Visa and the amount of work required unless it's a true relationship isn't worth it. Also if you look at the details of bringing a foreigner to the US for marriage you really can't just walk away after a couple of years even with a prenup if the person demands money. Watch 90 day fiancé for an idea of what a hassle it is.
Now sometimes you can fake a marriage and the girl will actually pay you for it but you can also get caught and possibly go to jail.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-08/los-angeles-marriage-fraud-scheme
BrotherMouzone
03-21-24, 07:03
After my divorce in 2018 I went to HK about 5 to 6 times a week for over three years and blew threw a ton of money. I lost a good job and also contacted Covid not to mention HPV and Chlamydia a couple of times. All I have to show for it are a few videos and some pictures with the girls. In then end it wasn't worth it and therapy with a good counselor would have been much cheaper. I have been mongering since 1998 in the Navy so 26 years. I feel horrible but last time I went to Tijuana I just banged my 2 regulars and didn't even do to the clubs. Now one is getting married and the other ghosted me LOL. Guess sooner or later I will be back in the clubs again, or maybe I just castrate myself and never have sex again LOL. Anyways for the sake of your sanity do not ever fall in love with a prostitute, escort, or a stripper, unless you like pain.So it sounds like, whether directly or indirectly, you lost your marriage, a good job, a ton of money, and contracted a couple of STDs all due to mongering? And you "feel horrible" about it all yet figure you'll be right back in the clubs again? Yeah, I'd say that there are some clear and obvious signs there that you might have an addiction. You could look to take a step back as it seems you yourself seem to recognize the addition but you're your own man so can do as you please. Good luck with everything.
Personally can't see myself "falling in love" with any of these chicas. Very much enjoy going to Tijuana but am not invested enough in it and don't go frequently enough to develop that strong of a relationship. Not to mention the cultural differences between me and these chicas, as lovely as many of them are, are too wide anyway LOL.
BrotherMouzone
03-21-24, 07:44
Not judging dude. But that's too much. Places like HK are a break from reality. If they become your daily reality it's a problem. Because that reality has to end sometime, and not easily. Out of money, illness, body pushes back. Somehow some way and you need a better day to day reality to return to.
I'm kind of sad hearing stories of guys who show up multiple times a week over long periods of time like it's a job. That's a sign you need help.Well you are kind of judging a bit, LOL, but IMO you're 100% spot on. Moderation is key, especially with any "vice" (if that's how you want to classify this hobby). But it seems for some here, Zona Norte is maybe too much to handle. As you mentioned, and as with many "hobbies", this hobby should ideally serve as a temporary, but FUN, break from reality. If you're consistenly left feeling "empty" or "horrible" (as some have mentioned here) after indulging in your hobby, it's IMO a very clear sign of a problem. Imagine your favorite hobby in life leaving you feeling empty or horrible. That just wouldn't make sense.
I don't have an addictive personality (never been addicted to anything in my life) so I suppose I don't know how it feels. Personally get tired of Tijuana after 4-5 days at most and am ready to leave. Am also very frugal (have a very solid, well into the six-figures job but live well below my means) so am higly averse to blowing tons of money on anything, let alone some chicas I barely know. I'm just very surprised hearing these stories from who I'd assume would be worldy, experienced Zona Norte veterans getting taken to the cleaners by these girls. Would expect that from more inexperienced, naive guys in their 20's, not these guys.
BrotherMouzone
03-21-24, 07:55
This is along the lines of the current discussion -- I am about to book my first trip to Tijuana, my read from the forum is that Cascadas is a good choice for a first trip. I see a lot of people saying 3 days in Tijuana is plenty, but if it is your first time and Tijuana is all new to you, is 5 nights too many?2 or 3 nights might be a good place to start but it's heavily dependent on the person. Weekend nights are much busier than weekday nights so might recommend experiencing both to see which atmosphere you prefer. I like and always prefer to stay at Cascadas (it's basically the "center of the action" in Zona Norte). But depending on your room location, it can potentially get noisy (sound from the club seeping into the room) and many people don't like that. Cascadas might also still be in the process of construction work of a new elevator in the middle of the hotel area, I'm not sure. Some regular club goers prefer to stay at a regular hotel completely outside of Zona Norte, which tend to be more welcoming to escorts if you should choose those services.
Serious question here. I've been seeing this phenomenon pop up on my TikTok called passport bros. The idea is American guys fed up with local women who go overseas to find foreign women who would love to marry an American man and change their lives.It's nothing new it just was called a "mail order bride" back in the day.
Explorer8939
03-22-24, 02:27
Serious question here. I've been seeing this phenomenon pop up on my TikTok called passport bros. The idea is American guys fed up with local women who go overseas to find foreign women who would love to marry an American man and change their lives.
I'm not stupid. I see all the flaws with this. But I can also still see it being good for some, with a strong prenup and the idea this is for a few years not forever. I see why guys do this.
Considered?There are 10's of 1000's here in Pattaya. Typically, the victim will buy a house for his "wife". Once the house is in her name, the wife will stop having sex. The foreign man has to hit the local bars, while wifey is free to see her Thai husband.
This will continue until the foreigner dies, goes home, or just gives up on the Thai wife.
Not so common in Tijuana, since a bargirl can make so much money in the bar, most Americans can't afford to take her out of the bar permanently.
Was in la Zona Tuesday night, booked a room in Cascada, $26 with the special VIP discount Monday and Tuesday, with free breakfast in Azul the next morning. Hong Kong is one hell of a good deal even compared to Asia.
Hello Captain. I also like Monday or Tuesday, but I take a double bed room for $30 (with VIP card). You have a large room, two beds, shower, TV, air conditioning, towels, soap, etc. First, I send a message to my regular chica, come to my room no. XXX. Then a meal at Azul, then a message to the other regular chica to come to my room too. On the TV "You Tube" channel, look for something like "sexy bedroom music" there is a wide selection and discreet red or blue light in the room creates a good mood. Then I go to the club for a free drink with a VIP card, maybe another drink or cocktail, watch a show and take a limo back to the border very late at night. Trolley to trolley parking to my free parked car and mission accomplished! Too good to be true, it should be illegal hehehe!
I don't have an addictive personality (never been addicted to anything in my life) so I suppose I don't know how it feels. Personally get tired of Tijuana after 4-5 days at most and am ready to leave. Am also very frugal (have a very solid, well into the six-figures job but live well below my means) so am higly averse to blowing tons of money on anything, let alone some chicas I barely know. I'm just very surprised hearing these stories from who I'd assume would be worldy, experienced Zona Norte veterans getting taken to the cleaners by these girls. Would expect that from more inexperienced, naive guys in their 20's, not these guys.Agree 100%.
I, like you, am also doing well financially, live well below my means & also very frugal.
Glad to hear others admit being frugal. Sometimes I feel that is looked down on by some of the posts here.
Everyone needs to draw their own boundaries on how emotionally close and how much they are willing to spend on gals.
Just came back. The binge drinking killed it for me. Never again. I don't drink at home and when I am down in Tijuana some warm up will induce popularity for me amongst the girls. It does but dang warm up changed to constant drinking and I am feeling it now.
I realized that I am not even extremely horny in Tijuana. I hold ejaculation until the last day. What attracts me the most is interacting with the girls. The challenge of meeting a girl, take her out of her emotional shell, lift her up, see the switch in her eyes. The tease, the flirt, the soft embrace, caressing the female body out in a club, in public. Be engulfed by that female energy. No matter how short the interaction is, this is what am into. Something I have never been blessed to do in my normal life. I was never good with women in normal social surroundings hence this lacked in my life. As I get older I want it to be something I enjoy until I can't, before it is too late for me. HK is unique in this that it provides what I am into. It is an irreplaceable and affordable club as far as I am concerned, at least for now.
I realized that I am not even extremely horny in Tijuana. I hold ejaculation until the last day. What attracts me the most is interacting with the girls. The challenge of meeting a girl, take her out of her emotional shell, lift her up, see the switch in her eyes. The tease, the flirt, the soft embrace, caressing the female body out in a club, in
public. Be engulfed by that female energy. No matter how short the
interaction is, this is what am into. Something I have never been blessed
to do in my normal life. I was never good with women in normal social
surroundings hence this lacked in my life. As I get older I want it to be
something I enjoy until I can't, before it is too late for me. HK is unique in
this that it provides what I am into. It is an irreplaceable and affordable
club as far as I am concerned, at least for now.Google 3% Man by Corey Wayne. It helped me realize the mistakes I made with women in rhe past. I am trying to talk to more women in the USA. They alot nicer here then in California and it good practice. I got lazy with the Chicas I knew in the Zona Norte as I had no issue seeinf them outside the club. But I want a real relationship now and I am tired of the transactional fantasy. Tijuana is only good to bust a nut, it is truly an ugly and depressing city filled with people looking to take avantage of Americans to make quick money. I lived in Tijuana for 4 months, it was only good for nice young Mexican panocha. The city is very ugly full of shitty pot hole ridden streets. Zona Rios is cool and aqua calientes. I also saw people shot dead in the zona, it is very dangerous if piss off the wrong people. Thats why I stay away from drugs with the exception of Mary J.
CBJoe.
How would you compare the pain divorcing your wife with the ant bites pain with the putas?
You had years of sex with the putas and fun with your friends in La Zona. That's more than 99% US male population can even dream of. Look at what Trump has to pay for acting out his sexual impulses. Certainly you can't and don't want to screw your old, ugly counselor. Or perhaps you want to try your luck with Sheriff Judd of Polk county? You should be happy you still have your sex drive. Without it life is boring and not worth living.I certainly enjoyed your friendship when we met in the club.Thanks Captain I have enjoyed and sampled some of the prettiest latinas I evet met in the Zona Norte. Too bad they like to drug tourists in Colombia because I would love to visit there. I also want to go to the PI and Thailand and Australia. I am a little down in the dumps at the moment and will go visit Yoda and mediatate for a while until I master my desires and thinking. Yoda will teach me the ways of the force and I will be a better Jedi and man for it. Like they say it is better to love and lost then to never have loved at all.
LuvMexicanas
03-23-24, 18:19
Thanks Captain I have enjoyed and sampled some of the prettiest latinas I evet met in the Zona Norte. Too bad they like to drug tourists in Colombia because I would love to visit there. I also want to go to the PI and Thailand and Australia. I am a little down in the dumps at the moment and will go visit Yoda and mediatate for a while until I master my desires and thinking. Yoda will teach me the ways of the force and I will be a better Jedi and man for it. Like they say it is better to love and lost then to never have loved at all.If a guy gets drugged, it's his own damn fault. Follow one simple rule around people you don't know: only drink a can or bottle of beer that's opened in front of you.
Google 3% Man by Corey Wayne. It helped me realize the mistakes I made with women in rhe past. I am trying to talk to more women in the USA. They alot nicer here then in California and it good practice. I got lazy with the Chicas I knew in the Zona Norte as I had no issue seeinf them outside the club. But I want a real relationship now and I am tired of the transactional fantasy. Tijuana is only good to bust a nut, it is truly an ugly and depressing city filled with people looking to take avantage of Americans to make quick money. I lived in Tijuana for 4 months, it was only good for nice young Mexican panocha. The city is very ugly full of shitty pot hole ridden streets. Zona Rios is cool and aqua calientes. I also saw people shot dead in the zona, it is very dangerous if piss off the wrong people. Thats why I stay away from drugs with the exception of Mary J.I briefly looked at the pdf version of that book. I have seen the guy before on youtube. Most of the things he say is no different than most what were called "PUA"s or other naturally gifted men say. I read a lot of books, starting with the Venusian artist by a guy who named himself Mystery. Another called "The Game" by another aspiring pick artist. "The way of the superior man", and a list of other short writing all over the internet. The message is all the same.
Unfortunately none of those opened up the female world for me. I made the mistake of focusing on the effort of attracting women. In any case here I am, tired of chasing women and succumb to the level where I try to find excitement in the pretentious world of mongering. I guess I am still applying what I learned reading all those books but alas, in a sex club like HK.
Hey it works for me. I like it. It excites me and that is what matters now.
If a guy gets drugged, it's his own damn fault. Follow one simple rule around people you don't know: only drink a can or bottle of beer that's opened in front of you.Some reports were saying they rub it on their nipples and when a guy goes to put their mouth on it the scolopamine takes over. Supposedly the drug makes you follow their instructions without you knowing it like draining your bank acct and helping them move your belongings into their car. They don’t dose it properly and the victim ODs.
Flawless Zeal
03-23-24, 20:53
Some reports were saying they rub it on their nipples and when a guy goes to put their mouth on it the scolopamine takes over. That sounds a little far-fetched from a spy-movie -- nipples can absorb drugs to an extent, it would be awkward to apply before hand, make it stay on the nipple, and then surely it would taste nasty with just a kiss. Slipping into a drink makes more sense for many reasons.
Explorer8939
03-24-24, 00:35
Some reports were saying they rub it on their nipples and when a guy goes to put their mouth on it the scolopamine takes over. Supposedly the drug makes you follow their instructions without you knowing it like draining your bank acct and helping them move your belongings into their car. They dont dose it properly and the victim ODs.To be clear, this has never been reported at the Hong Kong bar.
LuvMexicanas
03-24-24, 01:07
Some reports were saying they rub it on their nipples and when a guy goes to put their mouth on it the scolopamine takes over. Supposedly the drug makes you follow their instructions without you knowing it like draining your bank acct and helping them move your belongings into their car. They dont dose it properly and the victim ODs.Shower together and scrub her down good 😂.
I realized that I am not even extremely horny in Tijuana. I hold ejaculation until the last day. What attracts me the most is interacting with the girls. The challenge of meeting a girl, take her out of her emotional shell, lift her up, see the switch in her eyes. The tease, the flirt, the soft embrace, caressing the female body out in a club, in public. Be engulfed by that female energy. No matter how short the interaction is, this is what am into. Something I have never been blessed to do in my normal life. I was never good with women in normal social surroundings hence this lacked in my life. As I get older I want it to be something I enjoy until I can't, before it is too late for me. HK is unique in this that it provides what I am into. It is an irreplaceable and affordable club as far as I am concerned, at least for now.I'm also not horny in Zona. I'm horny all day. By time I get to Zona I'm not. I tried taking nap at my hotel down street. Did not change anything. Tries to not drink still didn't change anything. I guess it's the money and dirtiest of the beds and no shower3 d girls. Like even if street girls were 2 dollars I don't think I'd be banging them.
Shower together and scrub her down good 😂.Always a good tip for good hygiene. 🤣 Just watch some YouTube videos on the crazy stories. They work in teams and chica provides location, so best to stay at a place with security or have a wingman just in case. Noticed they are building another tower behind the church. Is it another HK hotel tower or some other business?
To be clear, this has never been reported at the Hong Kong bar.I've read stories like this with sleeping cream on the nipples. So the guy sucks on the chica's nipples and immediately falls asleep. He wakes up in a few hours in a room without his wallet, money, passport and pants. This never happened in the Hong Kong Club but you should be careful when adventures somewhere in the Banana Republics. However, in Eastern Europe, in a club, they pour something into your drink and you are half-conscious, and they charge your credit card as much as possible (sometimes several thousand dollars) and you happily agree to the transaction. This never happened in a Hong Kong club either.
I'm also not horny in Zona. I'm horny all day. By time I get to Zona I'm not. I tried taking nap at my hotel down street. Did not change anything. Tries to not drink still didn't change anything. I guess it's the money and dirtiest of the beds and no shower3 d girls. Like even if street girls were 2 dollars I don't think I'd be banging them.Most Mexican men residents in Tijuana gag on the thought of hanging out in Zona Norte. Mongers tolerate the shaggiest living conditions of human kind all over the world. There was a stinking homeless woman sleeping with her dog on the pavement right at the door of Hotel Rizo De Oro. There was a black dude surrounded by his friends bent down bleeding where his blood was dripping at the entrance of Rizo De Oro. I stepped over the blood and walked out.
Flawless Zeal
03-24-24, 18:36
I've read stories like this with sleeping cream on the nipples. So the guy sucks on the chica's nipples and immediately falls asleep. He wakes up in a few hours in a room without his wallet, money, passport and pants. This never happened in the Hong Kong Club but you should be careful when adventures somewhere in the Banana Republics. However, in Eastern Europe, in a club, they pour something into your drink and you are half-conscious, and they charge your credit card as much as possible (sometimes several thousand dollars) and you happily agree to the transaction. This never happened in a Hong Kong club either.If you remember the sorta based-on-a-true-story movie Hustlers, it wasn't limited to 2nd and 3rd world countries: https://abcnews.go.com/US/real-life-hustlers-lured-men-nyc-strip-clubs/story?id=65499900 (purportedly "a sprinkle of MDMA and ketamine" in the drink).
TerOnlyOnce
03-25-24, 04:51
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.
If you remember the sorta based-on-a-true-story movie Hustlers, it wasn't limited to 2nd and 3rd world countries: https://abcnews.go.com/US/real-life-hustlers-lured-men-nyc-strip-clubs/story?id=65499900 (purportedly "a sprinkle of MDMA and ketamine" in the drink).Thanks, good article. I watched this movie Hustlers. This movie Hustlers was in the cinema in Tijuana in the Spanish version and I think all the chicas from the Hong Kong club watched this movie because I read their discussions somewhere on Facebook. I also had such an adventure. A long time ago, when I was younger, I was in Paris, France, and near Place Pigalle there was a bar with a sign saying entry was 5 francs (before the euro). I was given a glass of champagne at the table, a half-naked girl talked to me for maybe 5 minutes, there was a striptease on stage. After a while, the waiter brought a bill for 375 francs (USD 75). For me, a young tourist, it was a fortune back then and I wanted to escape, but a huge security guard caught me at the door and I had no choice but to pay or they would beat me. I think it was some bar operated by the Balkan or North African mafia. So guys don't complain Hong Kong club is not that bad.
when I was younger, I was in Paris, France, and near Place Pigalle there was a bar with a sign saying entry was 5 francs (before the euro). I was given a glass of champagne at the table, a half-naked girl talked to me for maybe 5 minutes, there was a striptease on stage. After a while, the waiter brought a bill for 375 francs (USD 75). For me, a young tourist, it was a fortune back then and I wanted to escape, but a huge security guard caught me at the door and I had no choice but to pay or they would beat me. I .This gal in a booth in inside a club invited me to come in for private time. I thought we need negotiated 30 min of fun for 60 francs.
After I paid and entered the booth. She screamed when I tried to touch her. Apparently touching was not allowed.
I was pissed but had no recourse. Even though I had paid via credit card there was no recourse.
I went back to the hotel with Rosie Palmer.
Explorer8939
03-25-24, 09:59
I've read stories like this with sleeping cream on the nipples. So the guy sucks on the chica's nipples and immediately falls asleep. He wakes up in a few hours in a room without his wallet, money, passport and pants. This never happened in the Hong Kong Club but you should be careful when adventures somewhere in the Banana Republics. However, in Eastern Europe, in a club, they pour something into your drink and you are half-conscious, and they charge your credit card as much as possible (sometimes several thousand dollars) and you happily agree to the transaction. This never happened in a Hong Kong club either.Again, nothing like this has ever been reported at the Hong Kong bar.
If you are going to post fantastic stories, why not go all the way, and post the fable about the guy who went with a lady, passed out, and woke up in a tub of ice water missing a kidney.
ABAJoeSmith123
03-25-24, 15:44
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.Yes that is a stupid decision. 1) San Diego most expensive city in California now. 2) California taxes. 3) San Diego job market pays well below market value. 4) HK won't be so fun once it's too easy for you to access it and you start going so frequently. 5) don't shit where you sleep. 6) Should be using your prime years to do something more productive than move somewhere for hookers.
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind..You are 29. Your goals should not be based on your access to mongering. You really should put it down good number of notches. Your aim should be to build a life based on your aspirations outside mongering. You can build a life where you can have girls in your yacht sometime in the future if you work at it because you have time. If you don't have those aspiration then get a life coach who could help you create them and build the personality that helps you achieve them. Do not waste your youth getting committed to mongering.
Captain Solo
03-25-24, 18:16
I met Robert from New England in HK, a well seasoned monger, tall, well built like a full back.
His USG post #2310 claimed he picked up Saita? For ST in Cascada. He left his drink, took a shower. She took a long shower so he finished his drink. She came out, he felt woozy but did not loose consciousness. He confronted her and she left. He did not lose anything. Hope he did not pay her before she took off clothes and showed her droopy boobs and huge stomach.
He complained to front desk. They said it happened a lot, gave him credit for the room. He was woozy for the next day and a half.
If she meant to drug and rob him and he passed out in the room, Cascada would knock on the door in half hour and find him. She would not get away with it with Cascada recording names for ST room. They would drug guys who rent rooms for multiple days, not ST. Did not make sense to me.
Next day he came back to HK, identified her and complained to management. She apparently got fired.
What do you think?
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.I worked in San Diego after I retired from the military form 2018 to 2021. I had a decent job with the government and was making in the mid 100 k a year and I was single too. The problem is that HK and the Zona Norte being so close for me destroyed my life and my finances as I got addicted. Unless you can be 100% certain you won't get addicted to the lifestyle of mongering and put yourself on a strict budget you will eventually fail like I did. People can bullshit on these forums and tell you they would never fall for a hooker bla bla bla, they all spent a lot of money over the years that they could have used for other things like investments. I think it is better to live away from Tijuana and just visit a couple times a year for fun, but that's only my opinion. San Diego is also super expensive and the rent is sky high. You don't want to live in Tijuana as crossing the border sucks unless you have Global entry or Sentri card. The wait list for this is over a year. Then the lifestyle in Tijuana is completely third world, trust me I tried it for several months, I could not wait to go back to the USA. But like it said it is only my opinion and in the end you will do what you want. Good luck on whatever you decide.
TerOnlyOnce
03-25-24, 21:23
You are 29. Your goals should not be based on your access to mongering. You really should put it down good number of notches. Your aim should be to build a life based on your aspirations outside mongering. You can build a life where you can have girls in your yacht sometime in the future if you work at it because you have time. If you don't have those aspiration then get a life coach who could help you create them and build the personality that helps you achieve them. Do not waste your youth getting committed to mongering.I enjoy mongering though. I am not bitter or resentful about it. I want to do it.
Yes that is a stupid decision. 1) San Diego most expensive city in California now. 2) California taxes. 3) San Diego job market pays well below market value. 4) HK won't be so fun once it's too easy for you to access it and you start going so frequently. 5) don't shit where you sleep. 6) Should be using your prime years to do something more productive than move somewhere for hookers.The financials I am not really worried about. Not really a concern for me.
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.Hi! I used to live in New York City, Chicago, Northern California. The advantages of moving to southern California are the climate. On the coast, not too hot, rarely over 90 F and not crazy humid like New York City or Chicago, not too cold, rarely below 50 F. You will save a lot of money on heating and air conditioning bills and you don't need winter clothes. The supermarket has an abundance of vegetables and tropical fruits, inexpensively imported from Mexico. The advantage of regular, legal sex once a week with beautiful girls at the Hong Kong club (just don't be an addict). A life of sexual abstinence is unhealthy both physically and mentally. You will save a lot of money on travel costs to Tijuana (planes and hotels). Consider cheaper cities like Chula Vista is clean and safe. Good air connections from San Diego airport to everywhere in the USA, also to Frankfurt, Munich and Germany. From Tijuana airport connections to vacation destinations Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. Cons. The beach and air are polluted from the border in Imperial Beach to Coronado, but the authorities in both countries are solving this problem. San Diego beaches are clean but the water temperature is not like Waikiki. After Covid, more homeless people, homeless tents in the downtown of San Diego and homeless people in the trolley system. It's slowly starting to look like.... San Francisco. Apartment rental prices are probably similar to those on the East Coast. The benefits of living in the USA include the freedom to move wherever suits you best. A huge country of continental states and Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico and US Virgin Island. In the end, it's your life and your decision and I won't interfere with it.
Explorer8939
03-26-24, 00:02
I met Robert from New England in HK, a well seasoned monger, tall, well built like a full back.
His USG post #2310 claimed he picked up Saita? For ST in Cascada. He left his drink, took a shower. She took a long shower so he finished his drink. She came out, he felt woozy but did not loose consciousness. He confronted her and she left. He did not lose anything. Hope he did not pay her before she took off clothes and showed her droopy boobs and huge stomach.
He complained to front desk. They said it happened a lot, gave him credit for the room. He was woozy for the next day and a half.
If she meant to drug and rob him and he passed out in the room, Cascada would knock on the door in half hour and find him. She would not get away with it with Cascada recording names for ST room. They would drug guys who rent rooms for multiple days, not ST. Did not make sense to me.
Next day he came back to HK, identified her and complained to management. She apparently got fired.
What do you think?Not even close to reality.
First off, he brought the drink to the ST room, and she allegedly spiked the drink when he took a shower. Because she knew he would finish the drink after his shower. Because everyone who goes to a ST room sits around and has a drink.
It sounds like he drank a lot in the bar, and had a condition called "being drunk".
On the other hand, since he spent the night at Cascadas (he was still there the next day), they would have gone to his room, not a ST room, and there would have been no 30 minute knock on the door.
LuvMexicanas
03-26-24, 01:32
Hi! I used to live in New York City, Chicago, Northern California. The advantages of moving to southern California are the climate. On the coast, not too hot, rarely over 90 F and not crazy humid like New York City or Chicago, not too cold, rarely below 50 F. You will save a lot of money on heating and air conditioning bills and you don't need winter clothes. The supermarket has an abundance of vegetables and tropical fruits, inexpensively imported from Mexico. The advantage of regular, legal sex once a week with beautiful girls at the Hong Kong club (just don't be an addict). A life of sexual abstinence is unhealthy both physically and mentally. You will save a lot of money on travel costs to Tijuana (planes and hotels). Consider cheaper cities like Chula Vista is clean and safe. Good air connections from San Diego airport to everywhere in the USA, also to Frankfurt, Munich and Germany. From Tijuana airport connections to vacation destinations Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. Cons. The beach and air are polluted from the border in Imperial Beach to Coronado, but the authorities in both countries are solving this problem. San Diego beaches are clean but the water temperature is not like Waikiki. After Covid, more homeless people, homeless tents in the downtown of San Diego and homeless people in the trolley system. It's slowly starting to look like.... San Francisco. Apartment rental prices are probably similar to those on the East Coast. The benefits of living in the USA include the freedom to move wherever suits you best. A huge country of continental states and Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico and US Virgin Island. In the end, it's your life and your decision and I won't interfere with it.I'd add one thing about the police, don't expect anything from them. Crime is de facto okay based on police inaction except for the most severe crimes.
StubbornMule
03-26-24, 01:59
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.I am in a similar boat: 30, unmarried, and no kids. I have a different perspective than some of the other mongers on this thread. I think it is very reasonable to move to San Diego to be close to Tijuana. The girls are so much cheaper and higher quality (on average) compared to what you can get in the states that I really view SD as a unique opportunity. There is nothing quite like it in the USA in terms of quality per dollar. I expect mongering to be a big part of my future, so it makes sense to take this into account when picking a city to live in. For this reason San Diego is my top choice. I agree with the other posters that you should not let mongering become an addiction, and that it is important to have goals and pastimes outside of this hobby.
BrotherMouzone
03-26-24, 02:32
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.Above all, you are your own man and IMO should do as you please (within legal and morally appropriate boundaries). First thought though is a message board focused on the discussion of mongering and hookers is probably NOT where you should be seeking out long-term advice on life.
I also live on the East Coast and visit the San Diego-Tijuana area on average 3 times or so a year. I personally think it's short-sighted and beyond ridicuolous to move to San Diego for the primary purpose of pursuing mongering activities in Tijuana. But then again I don't know the particulars of your life situation (other than what you're written above) so I can only speak for myself.
With that said, there are plenty of solid reasons to move to San Diego that you could consider that have nothing to do with Zona Norte. Awesome weather, beaches, generally laid-back atmosphere, proximity to LA and Las Vegas, etc. I also enjoy plenty of things in Tijuana outside of Zona Norte, like the tacos and relatively low-cost restaurants, breweries, and alcohol.
I've never lived in San Diego and don't even know where you're at on the East Coast so can't speak to job prospects, cost-of-living, and other considerations like that relative to where you live currently. But I do think that whatever key decisions you make in life, you want to be sure you're doing them for the right reasons. Not so sure moving to San Diego for the sole purpose of being close to Tijuana and the Zona Norte chicas is the "right reason" (IMO it's a quite poor reason actually) but again I don't know you or the particulars of your life. You can do as you please and, who knows, moving to San Diego could turn out to be the best decision you ever made. Good luck!
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
Summary: MOVE TO San Diego. You will not regret it.
I am much much older than you but in a similar situation.
I am planning to move to SD to enjoy Pacific Beach, La Jolla, etc in addition to HK and zona.
I have some family complications that delay my move but hope to be there by the end of this year or next year.
I will send you 1:1 my file with fun things in San Diego things I plan to enjoy. Beyond Mexico.
As an example from San Diego airport I go via Coronado island on my way to Mexico.
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.Your moving for prostitutes? Yea that's silly kid smh.
Focus on vauble goals in life and learn how to talk to women. Your puting too much value on prostitutes and it's extremely ridiculous.
Hope this helps!
You are 29. Your goals should not be based on your access to mongering. You really should put it down good number of notches. Your aim should be to build a life based on your aspirations outside mongering. You can build a life where you can have girls in your yacht sometime in the future if you work at it because you have time. If you don't have those aspiration then get a life coach who could help you create them and build the personality that helps you achieve them. Do not waste your youth getting committed to mongering.At TerOnlyOnce,
Great advice above from Zenduka1.
But, you can do both. You can live in San Diego area, access Zona on weekends and spend your weekdays focused on building a good life / career.
Zona can only take so much of your time (excitement fades if you go too often) - one night a week is probably a good balance.
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.
You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.
I've been going to TJ for a little over 20 years and have never gotten bored of it LOL.
TJ is what you make of it. The GFE/PSE girls are all there each and every week once you get to know them. I can easily go into my WhatsApp and set up a PSE/BBFS threesome within a couple hours if I wanted to.
To the guy looking to move to SD, I say if you have a good paying job and no other responsibilities holding you back, do it. Although I agree with the people also saying to look for something more serious. You can have fun while searching for a civilian girlfriend here in San Diego or even land a novia in TJ who isn’t a ***** and appreciates a good man.
Expat American
03-26-24, 19:10
Thanks, good article. I watched this movie Hustlers. This movie Hustlers was in the cinema in Tijuana in the Spanish version and I think all the chicas from the Hong Kong club watched this movie because I read their discussions somewhere on Facebook. I also had such an adventure. A long time ago, when I was younger, I was in Paris, France, and near Place Pigalle there was a bar with a sign saying entry was 5 francs (before the euro). I was given a glass of champagne at the table, a half-naked girl talked to me for maybe 5 minutes, there was a striptease on stage. After a while, the waiter brought a bill for 375 francs (USD 75). For me, a young tourist, it was a fortune back then and I wanted to escape, but a huge security guard caught me at the door and I had no choice but to pay or they would beat me. I think it was some bar operated by the Balkan or North African mafia. So guys don't complain Hong Kong club is not that bad.That brought back memories. I had the same experience back in the 80's when I was just a teenager bumming through Europe. Some clip joint in Pigalle. Except I had no credit card and not nearly enough cash. They had to let me walk out. Lesson learned early.
TerOnlyOnce
03-26-24, 21:32
Your moving for prostitutes? Yea that's silly kid smh.
Focus on vauble goals in life and learn how to talk to women. Your puting too much value on prostitutes and it's extremely ridiculous.
Hope this helps!I do know how to talk to women. I do not enjoy the way traditional dating works where I am at, and I get much more satisfaction from mongering or an accelerated form of dating that involves pay to play.
Maybe you don't like prostitutes, that's up to you.
Me personally, I don't care if they are "prostitutes". I've had terrific experiences from mongering and I would like to continue that.
At TerOnlyOnce,
Great advice above from Zenduka1.
But, you can do both. You can live in San Diego area, access Zona on weekends and spend your weekdays focused on building a good life / career.
Zona can only take so much of your time (excitement fades if you go too often) - one night a week is probably a good balance.My career is already established so I'm not too worried about that.
You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.Even if I got bored of Tijuana I would be in the same situation I'm in now, so it wouldn't really matter to me.
Thank you all for the input, I appreciate it.
I will most likely end up doing this, already figuring out how to make it happen.
Reasons why if anyone cares: personal decision, not much else I'm working on or towards in life right now, and I know that if I were to move my options for sex will only increase which is a worthwhile improvement to me.
RikyMichaels7
03-27-24, 01:12
Many of you will recall these infamous words of Roberto Duran as he faced off with Sugar Ray Leonard years ago. Well, I am going to plagiarize these words as I vow to never return to La Coahuila bars again. You ask why? Here we go (all over a 3 day period at Hong Kong and Tropical Bar):
- Forced to buy a beer upon entry into Hong Kong (do they think I won't buy a drink of my choice upon entry?
- Charged $11.00 for a ficha beer and $6. 00 for my own beer (not including tip) (total greed).
- Consistently hounded to buy another drink (even when mine and hers were only half full).
- Scammed to pay $30.00 for an effing Riunite glass of wine.
- Short changed or no changed 4 times (all involving me ordering a beer each time).
- Repeated hounding by dancers and their jockies for propinas when I didn't even see them dance (I was on the other side of the bar).
- Repeated hounding by the chips and nuts guy.
- Harrassed by the waiters who turn their serving trays over to reveal a food menu (and when I say no, they say well your girl is hungry).
- Constant hounding by the flower guy (when I said no 4 times he said, but the girl wants one).
- Hounded to tip the ahole that puts the robe on the girl prior to us going upstairs.
- Hounded to tip the cum guys about to clean the room.
- Hounded by the prick that I paid for the room with the girl for a tip on my way down.
- Short timed by two putas when I was paying for a half hour (I'm talking 20 minutes tops).
- Oh, let's not forget that old bastard that clicks the shocking device in front of your face (who the Hell wants to pay to get shocked?
And my friend and I went down to Rosarito and ordered a drink on the beach and were literally surrounded and hounded by vendors pushing massages, henna tattoos, sunglasses, blankets, etc. Etc.
Getting fleeced like this may be your idea of a good time but for me. No mas, no mas.
RikyMichaels7
03-27-24, 03:47
You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.I totally agree. Nothing but monetary greed and jaded putas has overtaken La Coahuila.
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No mas, no mas.You read like one of them innocent schmucks who do it all wrong. You sleepwalked into their weave of trap and now you complain, despite all the info put down in these forums.
I went on a weekday night and didn't get asked once if I wanted a drink. I sat on the balcony upstairs just watching and no one asked if I wanted something to eat or drink. I would have bought something, but just finished dinner and felt full. I'm thinking the guy that keeps getting pestered must have had chicas hanging off him near the center stage and everyone thought they better get their money and propinas before he spends it upstairs. 🤣 I left after 1-2 hours without buying a drink or food and no chica came by asking for a tip. I usually only experience that in TB. Also didn't see the person selling flowers so maybe the poster went on the weekend. Either way, always good to say no gracias or wave them off.
RikyMichaels7
03-27-24, 16:44
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I went on a weekday night and didn't get asked once if I wanted a drink. I sat on the balcony upstairs just watching and no one asked if I wanted something to eat or drink. I would have bought something, but just finished dinner and felt full. I'm thinking the guy that keeps getting pestered must have had chicas hanging off him near the center stage and everyone thought they better get their money and propinas before he spends it upstairs. 🤣 I left after 1-2 hours without buying a drink or food and no chica came by asking for a tip. I usually only experience that in TB. Also didn't see the person selling flowers so maybe the poster went on the weekend. Either way, always good to say no gracias or wave them off.You try that in Chicago and see what happens.
I worked in San Diego after I retired from the military form 2018 to 2021. I had a decent job with the government and was making in the mid 100 k a year and I was single too. The problem is that HK and the Zona Norte being so close for me destroyed my life and my finances as I got addicted. Unless you can be 100% certain you won't get addicted to the lifestyle of mongering and put yourself on a strict budget you will eventually fail like I did. People can bullshit on these forums and tell you they would never fall for a hooker bla bla bla, they all spent a lot of money over the years that they could have used for other things like investments. I think it is better to live away from Tijuana and just visit a couple times a year for fun, but that's only my opinion. San Diego is also super expensive and the rent is sky high. You don't want to live in Tijuana as crossing the border sucks unless you have Global entry or Sentri card. The wait list for this is over a year. Then the lifestyle in Tijuana is completely third world, trust me I tried it for several months, I could not wait to go back to the USA. But like it said it is only my opinion and in the end you will do what you want. Good luck on whatever you decide.I got a friend who lives in SD and is down in Tijuana every week Mon and Tue. He point blank told me he is addicted. So addicted that he quit his 9-5 computers job years ago and started driving Uber so he has the freedom to move in and out of Tijuana during the low tide days. Not only his finances but his health is now affected because of the drinking. He tried and tried and tried to make the trips every Month instead of every week. He failed every time. This shit is real. If you live in SD be ware.
Above all, you are your own man and IMO should do as you please (within legal and morally appropriate boundaries). First thought though is a message board focused on the discussion of mongering and hookers is probably NOT where you should be seeking out long-term advice on life.
I also live on the East Coast and visit the San Diego-Tijuana area on average 3 times or so a year. I personally think it's short-sighted and beyond ridicuolous to move to San Diego for the primary purpose of pursuing mongering activities in Tijuana. But then again I don't know the particulars of your life situation (other than what you're written above) so I can only speak for myself.
With that said, there are plenty of solid reasons to move to San Diego that you could consider that have nothing to do with Zona Norte. Awesome weather, beaches, generally laid-back atmosphere, proximity to LA and Las Vegas, etc. I also enjoy plenty of things in Tijuana outside of Zona Norte, like the tacos and relatively low-cost restaurants, breweries, and alcohol.
I've never lived in San Diego and don't even know where you're at on the East Coast so can't speak to job prospects, cost-of-living, and other considerations like that relative to where you live currently. But I do think that whatever key decisions you make in life, you want to be sure you're doing them for the right reasons. Not so sure moving to San Diego for the sole purpose of being close to Tijuana and the Zona Norte chicas is the "right reason" (IMO it's a quite poor reason actually) but again I don't know you or the particulars of your life. You can do as you please and, who knows, moving to San Diego could turn out to be the best decision you ever made. Good luck!I moved to sd for 6 months year, for 9 yrs now. Hanging in hk 4 x week some years, minimally 2 x week. If I was sick for a week od go 5 x week to make up for lost time. I wpuld never tell a guy not to move to sd because if he's like me, he wants pussy everyday. Not 10 days a year. Some guys won't pay woman outside of mexixo forlegal reasons or they don't ha e asain sex houses in every shopping center. Or are worried to be seen. But if you got $900 a week to blow in Tijuana, you can go 3 x week to bang 2 bar girls each night you go. $3,600 month is nothing to some dudes watching their home and real estate go up in value 40 k a year. The problem with moving to sd is the sd dating scene is extremely difficult if you don't look good with muscles. Because tje girls are all muscled up, at least the non fat ones. For instance a ugly guy, not saying this guys ugly, but a ugly guy, let's say he's a 3, on a 1 to 10 for his age. A ugly dude can nail woman every week in nyc on online aps as long as he knows how to talk to woman, is confident, and has a job. So by moving to sd you are making that decision to probably ly not have a normal life. Although you cpuld date in Tijuana at a similar success rate as nyc if willing to be in Tijuana all the time. Having sex 3 nights a week for $3,600 month does not sound so bad to me, and this is commi g from a guy who ran out of $ for putas 3 yrs ago.
I totally agree. Nothing but monetary greed and jaded putas has overtaken La Coahuila.The more the US dating scene continues to rot the more men will March away to places like Tijuana, Bkk and Ptya.
I went on a weekday night and didn't get asked once if I wanted a drink. I sat on the balcony upstairs just watching and no one asked if I wanted something to eat or drink. I would have bought something, but just finished dinner and felt full. I'm thinking the guy that keeps getting pestered must have had chicas hanging off him near the center stage and everyone thought they better get their money and propinas before he spends it upstairs. 🤣 I left after 1-2 hours without buying a drink or food and no chica came by asking for a tip. I usually only experience that in TB. Also didn't see the person selling flowers so maybe the poster went on the weekend. Either way, always good to say no gracias or wave them off.This is good to know.
This gal in a booth in inside a club invited me to come in for private time. I thought we need negotiated 30 min of fun for 60 francs.
After I paid and entered the booth. She screamed when I tried to touch her. Apparently touching was not allowed.
I was pissed but had no recourse. Even though I had paid via credit card there was no recourse.
I went back to the hotel with Rosie Palmer.Ha ha, this very thing happened to me in my first ever visit to Hollywood, Ca. 50 years ago. $20. She got naked and all I was allowed to do was watch. It was really for photographers, I did not know that and did not have a camera, LOL LOL LOL!
I do know how to talk to women. I do not enjoy the way traditional dating works where I am at, and I get much more satisfaction from mongering or an accelerated form of dating that involves pay to play.
Maybe you don't like prostitutes, that's up to you.
Me personally, I don't care if they are "prostitutes". I've had terrific experiences from mongering and I would like to continue that.
My career is already established so I'm not too worried about that.
Even if I got bored of Tijuana I would be in the same situation I'm in now, so it wouldn't really matter to me.
Thank you all for the input, I appreciate it.
I will most likely end up doing this, already figuring out how to make it happen.
Reasons why if anyone cares: personal decision, not much else I'm working on or towards in life right now, and I know that if I were to move my options for sex will only increase which is a worthwhile improvement to me.Then buddy you should do what you want and not ask anyone for their advice. You obviously don't like what people have told you so go do you. Let us know how it all works out for you on these forums, I am sure many are interested in reading what you decide and will do.
I got a friend who lives in SD and is down in Tijuana every week Mon and Tue. He point blank told me he is addicted. So addicted that he quit his 9-5 computers job years ago and started driving Uber so he has the freedom to move in and out of Tijuana during the low tide days. Not only his finances but his health is now affected because of the drinking. He tried and tried and tried to make the trips every Month instead of every week. He failed every time. This shit is real. If you live in SD be ware.Some guys aren't getting pussy elsewhere. I would never tell a guy to have sex once a month. Shit the birds, cats, dogs fish everyone's having sex, woman are having sex, gayvmen having s3 x. So how can you tell another man he should have sex once a month or less.
Hey there, looking for some input.
I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.
Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.
Thanks.I wish that I discovered Tijuana in my twenties. I say go for it! Move to SD and hit the Zona as much as you desire. Just don't let it take over your life or fall in love with a puta. Also, there are fun places to visit besides the clubs in Tijuana. Both Rosarito and Ensenda are great. You can work on your Espanol and then try to pick up chicas at a regular (non-puta) clubs. Also, having the Zona as a backup option will give you leverage when dealing with civilian chicas. You won't be so thirsty.
You try that in Chicago and see what happens.Chicago they ask me when I get to the end of the hallway entrance. They provide a booth and a drink. Even if the other meseros stop by and ask if I'm good, I just give them a thumbs up or no gracias. Not too difficult to communicate with them. Any club hounds you when you have company on your lap. It is a given as they are working for propinas. I have a place in Tijuana and SoCal and not addicted to the Zona. If you're addicted, then probably best to seek help. It is entertainment and too much of anything gets old. You have to switch it up with different scenery and clubs. Variety is the spice of life.
I wrote a recent trip report at USASG and mentioned seeing a new spinner this past Sunday night in Hong Kong. Just wondering if anyone else has seen or talked to her? She appears to weigh no more than 80 pounds and is seemingly in the 21-25 range. She's very light skinned, a few tattoos, with black and red hair. I didn't get to speak with her until after I had already banged this other girl so I was low on funds at the moment. I gave her a tip and grabbed her ass but she didn't give me any GFE vibes so I just let her continue on her way. If I had more time or cash I would have bought her a ficha to see if I could get her out of her shell because she came off as a newbie. She told me her name but it was weird so I don't remember what it was. For anyone into spinners, go check her out. You'll definitely know it's her when you see her.
Some guys aren't getting pussy elsewhere. I would never tell a guy to have sex once a month. Shit the birds, cats, dogs fish everyone's having sex, woman are having sex, gayvmen having s3 x. So how can you tell another man he should have sex once a month or less.I go there once a Month for 3 nights and I am a happy camper. The rest of the days I release every 2 days to porn. I watch porn only to release, when done porn is also off the table until next time. I am here, relatively happy, certainly fit, healthy and vibrant.
Then buddy you should do what you want and not ask anyone for their advice. You obviously don't like what people have told you so go do you. Let us know how it all works out for you on these forums, I am sure many are interested in reading what you decide and will do.LOL, he asked for advise and now all of a sudden he sounds sure of himself. I guess his seek was reinforcement for his already determined mind. It seems most of us busted his bubble.
Enter The V
03-28-24, 09:05
The more the US dating scene continues to rot the more men will March away to places like Tijuana, Bkk and Ptya.Everything about the US is rotten if we are being Honest.
Flawless Zeal
03-28-24, 16:56
I agree that moving somewhere for proximity to mongering while relatively young seems bizarre, but it's funny that the question is about San Diego specifically, not some shithole, dangerous city. I used to live there and would love to move back some day if I could move my job there and afford the housing that is literally 4-6 times as expensive as where I am now. If you can make it work financially, San Diego is a great place to live, regardless of proximity to Tijuana.
BrotherMouzone
03-28-24, 19:26
I moved to sd for 6 months year, for 9 yrs now. Hanging in hk 4 x week some years, minimally 2 x week. If I was sick for a week od go 5 x week to make up for lost time. I wpuld never tell a guy not to move to sd because if he's like me, he wants pussy everyday. Not 10 days a year. Some guys won't pay woman outside of mexixo forlegal reasons or they don't ha e asain sex houses in every shopping center. Or are worried to be seen. But if you got $900 a week to blow in Tijuana, you can go 3 x week to bang 2 bar girls each night you go. $3,600 month is nothing to some dudes watching their home and real estate go up in value 40 k a year. The problem with moving to sd is the sd dating scene is extremely difficult if you don't look good with muscles. Because tje girls are all muscled up, at least the non fat ones. For instance a ugly guy, not saying this guys ugly, but a ugly guy, let's say he's a 3, on a 1 to 10 for his age. A ugly dude can nail woman every week in nyc on online aps as long as he knows how to talk to woman, is confident, and has a job. So by moving to sd you are making that decision to probably ly not have a normal life. Although you cpuld date in Tijuana at a similar success rate as nyc if willing to be in Tijuana all the time. Having sex 3 nights a week for $3,600 month does not sound so bad to me, and this is commi g from a guy who ran out of $ for putas 3 yrs ago.I respect your opinions and insight you provide on this board but that frequency and budget (though in theory I could easily afford it) would be WAY too much for me, LOL. Couldn't imagine going to Tijuana that frequently or spending that much on those chicas no matter how much $$$ I had. Tijuana is occasional recreation for me, whereas some of the posters here seem to treat it more as a "lifestlye" which I don't think is a place I could ever get to. But hey if you enjoy those clubs that much, great.
BrotherMouzone
03-28-24, 19:37
I got a friend who lives in SD and is down in Tijuana every week Mon and Tue. He point blank told me he is addicted. So addicted that he quit his 9-5 computers job years ago and started driving Uber so he has the freedom to move in and out of Tijuana during the low tide days. Not only his finances but his health is now affected because of the drinking. He tried and tried and tried to make the trips every Month instead of every week. He failed every time. This shit is real. If you live in SD be ware.With some of these recent posts I'm really starting to wonder how pervasive addiction to Zona Norte is. That would be an interesting social study. As I mentioned in a post a week or so ago, I met an American dude a few years ago at Adelitas who flat out told me he was an addict. Said he'd been frequenting Tijuana and Zona Norte his entire adult life and that over the years he'd "fucked every girl" (basically meaning he'd fucked every regular) that was in Adelitas that night (which apparently wasn't hyperbole after talking to him further). So yeah, I am kind of curious how many people that go down there regularly are true addicts as this kind of addiction might be more widespread than I was realizing.
For guys who want to move to San Diego County. Planned opening in Chula Vista (south of San Diego) in summer 2025 is a gigantic hotel, resort, water park, etc. "Gaylord Pacific Resort & Convention Center. Marriott" 1,600 rooms. They will need a lot of people from the hotel and restaurant industries. Contact employment office. I provide this link or Google this hotel https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/sange-gaylord-pacific-resort-and-convention-center/overview/ In my opinion, if you want to buy a house, it is crazy expensive. The average house price is around $1 million. Consider renting an apartment not in San Diego but in cities south of San Diego such as Chula Vista, National City or to the east El Cajon, Spring Valley, Santee where rent may be cheaper. North of San Diego, the cities of Del Mar, Solana Beach, and Carsbad are even more expensive. Living here you can save money on heating, air conditioning (if you live within 10 - 15 miles of the coast), winter clothing is not necessary, vegetables, cheap fruits, many imported from Mexico or local from the San Joaquin Valley. So if you are a frequent Tijuana visitor you will save a lot of money on hotel, motel and plane tickets. Unfortunately, the beach from Imperial Beach to Coronado is polluted, but the authorities are working to improve the situation. The beaches in San Diego are clean. Ok I'm done and Hasta la Vista!
Cocr Brotheler
03-29-24, 01:51
StR,
During my various trips I asked my Ubers what their rents were and even inland $2,000+ for a 1 bedroom. And that was last February.
I thought about RV parks where could place a small camper and come and go from Texas. Would have to be a decent RV park though and one that is safe.
LuvMexicanas
03-29-24, 06:16
With some of these recent posts I'm really starting to wonder how pervasive addiction to Zona Norte is. That would be an interesting social study. As I mentioned in a post a week or so ago, I met an American dude a few years ago at Adelitas who flat out told me he was an addict. Said he'd been frequenting Tijuana and Zona Norte his entire adult life and that over the years he'd "fucked every girl" (basically meaning he'd fucked every regular) that was in Adelitas that night (which apparently wasn't hyperbole after talking to him further). So yeah, I am kind of curious how many people that go down there regularly are true addicts as this kind of addiction might be more widespread than I was realizing.By nature, I don't have an addictive personality but I have just short of a habit, not specific to Tijuana or the Zona, but instead Mexico in general. I like the culture, the food, and the women. They treat me so well. I've traveled extensively throughout Mexico with working girls and civvies but the thing they have in common is they know how to treat a man. At least for my sample, they've been feminine and defer to my leadership on everything. As long as I'm happy they're happy. Contrast that to combative Western women constantly seeking debate. Fuck that shit. Viva Mexico cabrones!
By nature, I don't have an addictive personality but I have just short of a habit, not specific to Tijuana or the Zona, but instead Mexico in general. I like the culture, the food, and the women. They treat me so well. I've traveled extensively throughout Mexico with working girls and civvies but the thing they have in common is they know how to treat a man. At least for my sample, they've been feminine and defer to my leadership on everything. As long as I'm happy they're happy. Contrast that to combative Western women constantly seeking debate. Fuck that shit. Viva Mexico cabrones!I agree. I always say there are good and bad people in every culture. What is lacking in Mexico and South America is, that West's arrogant, self righteousness where everybody think they are the Kings and Queens of the world, now more so in Women than in men. Give me a break, that is awful. People in the West are like, don't talk to me unless you apologize with respect for doing so first. "Ma'am, excuse me, but I like to say to you. " GTFOH!
Baxter Slade
03-29-24, 20:11
By nature, I don't have an addictive personality but I have just short of a habit, not specific to Tijuana or the Zona, but instead Mexico in general. I like the culture, the food, and the women. They treat me so well. I've traveled extensively throughout Mexico with working girls and civvies but the thing they have in common is they know how to treat a man. At least for my sample, they've been feminine and defer to my leadership on everything. As long as I'm happy they're happy. Contrast that to combative Western women constantly seeking debate. Fuck that shit. Viva Mexico cabrones!Jajajaja SI. Viva Mexico.
Yea Fuck american women.
Correction! Fuck mexican women they are the best.
BrotherMouzone
03-30-24, 11:20
By nature, I don't have an addictive personality but I have just short of a habit, not specific to Tijuana or the Zona, but instead Mexico in general. I like the culture, the food, and the women. They treat me so well. I've traveled extensively throughout Mexico with working girls and civvies but the thing they have in common is they know how to treat a man. At least for my sample, they've been feminine and defer to my leadership on everything. As long as I'm happy they're happy. Contrast that to combative Western women constantly seeking debate. Fuck that shit. Viva Mexico cabrones!Well, speaking of Western vs. Mexican women, by coincidence a video popped up on my YouTube timeline yesterday of some British women giving their thoughts on an old Luke Powell video he made on why he would never date an American woman (their video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec5onaTf_H8&ab_channel=TheBritGirls). I forwarded the video to Luke through one of my other social media accounts last night. Don't think he'd seen it previously but he ended up doing a live video late tonight where he touched on it.
I agree. I always say there are good and bad people in every culture. What is lacking in Mexico and South America is, that West's arrogant, self righteousness where everybody think they are the Kings and Queens of the world, now more so in Women than in men. Give me a break, that is awful. People in the West are like, don't talk to me unless you apologize with respect for doing so first. "Ma'am, excuse me, but I like to say to you. " GTFOH!In the US if you wear the most expensive clothes, own a Rolex and drive a Lambo you will get many more women than you can handle coming up to you and saying "Sir, excuse me, but I like to say to you".
Captain Solo
03-30-24, 17:04
Two of my wingmen live in San Diego and cross over 2 or 3 times every week.
One has regular contacts with a couple favoritas, waits for them to come to town, takes them out for dinner then hotels OTC outside of HK.
One would come over to party with the bros in HK, go out to dinner with us, or just go by himself in HK to bag a couple girls.
I met a couple new HK girls who speak adequate English. Girls from Sonora tend to be very gentle, sweet, sexy, classy. We were sitting next to the stage drinking beers. I was kissing her mouth with my hands roaming her boobs, crotch and sexy creamy thighs. I invited her out to dinner with us but she said in the gentlest way, she needed money and had to work. I came back after dinner looking for her for a session but could not find her. The brief conversation had enough draw. I want to see her again.
Guys may be addicted to sweet, sexy companies of hot young girls and want to come back to see them again and again, sure beat having ugly fights with nasty, sexless Nortenas GFs.
Captain Solo
03-30-24, 17:17
Yep.
Every time I drive a little bright red sports car to a major shopping mall, women and girls think it's an exotic and expensive Ferrari, stare and smile at me.
A girl was walking with her big family in the parking lot, stopped every one in the track, stared at the car for a long time, asked her dad, "Dad, what kind of car is this?
A group of families about 30 people were on a bike tour, stopped their bikes in the middle of the road, blocking traffic, staring at the car. Finally a man biked over, his daughter wanted to know where to buy this car. A wingman was in the car with me on that trip.
A female moto cop screamed her siren, pulled me over in LOS Angeles, swaggered over in her high boots, "This car is so cute. I just wanted to look at it!
The truth is, this car is so old, girls in their 20's never saw it in their lives. Any bro want to hook more hot girls, just buy my red sports car. It sure works with dumb women.
In the US if you wear the most expensive clothes, own a Rolex and drive a Lambo you will get many more women than you can handle coming up to you and saying "Sir, excuse me, but I like to say to you".Those are at most 10% of men out there, amongst those probably 5% are single and are out and about with their wealth on display. Those are the guys who get 90% of available women. These stats are everywhere. It was not like this before world wide social media. Now, a farm girl in Kansas, or a pretty city dweller say in New York, has access to rich guys all over the world. The issue is, there are just too many women for such small number of men. Do you think these women give a rats ass of the average joe who lives next to them, they would rather have their crotch have spider web on it from disuse than dating the common man.
Adult men all over the world, Korea, Japan, China, USA, England etc. Are more and more sexless live and do it via online. They don't want to know how to deal and talk to real women and can't do it even if they tried. Most single male adults like me would rather get castrated than spending precious time courting these universally rude women in the west.
This is a tough situation. The solution in my view is legalized sex service. Everyone would be happy. I also believe this is where we are going in the near future. There is just no other way.
Explorer8939
03-31-24, 04:16
So, how is the Hong Kong bar? Anyone go there?
. Most single male adults like me would rather get castrated than spending precious time courting these universally rude women in the west.
The solution in my view is legalized sex service. Everyone would be happy. I also believe this is where we are going in the near future. There is just no other way.I agree with the problem.
BUT prostitution will NOT be legalized because of religion and women.
Women would loose their value and power if men can get go across town for sex. They will not tolerate such competition.
Today women rule over men in USA because men have no alternative and the women want to keep it that way.
The FALSE argument they use to stop legalization is sex trafficking. Claiming these women are coerced into it, etc.
Heck legalization didn't even pass in San Francisco.
Spoken from "the know it all" in his own mind. Your opinions mean absolutely nothing to me dude. Go bully someone else in your typical be. S. Style.Trust me at your age I know I'm not going to change your views on things. My response is for those that actually are looking to go to Tijuana and have a good time without thinking that everyone is out to steal from them and a simple way to avoid the feeling that you are getting taken advantage of. Many guys that have never been just need to learn "no gracias" when dealing with people trying to sell something instead of thinking they are obligated to buy anything or tip people that do nothing.
What's funny to me is that most people get wiser later in life or after doing something over time. In your case I don't understand how Tijuana has become more difficult for you. The only thing I can think is the way you act and if you go with the attitude that everyone is stealing from you or out to take advantage of you so your mindset is already negative going into the situation instead of just going and having fun.
I agree with the problem.
BUT prostitution will NOT be legalized because of religion and women.
Women would loose their value and power if men can get go across town for sex. They will not tolerate such competition.
Today women rule over men in USA because men have no alternative and the women want to keep it that way.
The FALSE argument they use to stop legalization is sex trafficking. Claiming these women are coerced into it, etc.
Heck legalization didn't even pass in San Francisco.Its not only women responsible for prostitution being illegal in the US. A vast number of American men including those in positions of authority are impotent and deviant and have no sexual need for women. They have a facade of evangelicalism which they portray to the world in their public activities while keeping very secret their private perverted lifestyles.
Its not only women responsible for prostitution being illegal in the US. A vast number of American men including those in positions of authority are impotent and deviant and have no sexual need for women. They have a facade of evangelicalism which they portray to the world in their public activities while keeping very secret their private perverted lifestyles.Sex work is work. Sex access is a right. I found this website. https://swopusa.org/ Although some are standing against this org in the location since it is a top down approach. Sex workers want the button to move this on, not others.
One thing we can do here is just be informed and explore what is out there.
This be. S against straight men has to stop. No Marriage, No sex, No respect. No right. This is where the current straight man is and where he is headed with all this feminist turd going on unless sex work is legalized.
The FALSE argument they use to stop legalization is sex trafficking. Claiming these women are coerced into it, etc.So this is a odd statement to make. So you don't believe that any women are being sex trafficked?
May I ask what evidence you have that has made you come to this conclusion?
AmericanPi
04-02-24, 14:41
Yep.
Every time I drive a little bright red sports car to a major shopping mall, women and girls think it's an exotic and expensive Ferrari, stare and smile at me.
A girl was walking with her big family in the parking lot, stopped every one in the track, stared at the car for a long time, asked her dad, "Dad, what kind of car is this?
A group of families about 30 people were on a bike tour, stopped their bikes in the middle of the road, blocking traffic, staring at the car. Finally a man biked over, his daughter wanted to know where to buy this car. A wingman was in the car with me on that trip.
A female moto cop screamed her siren, pulled me over in LOS Angeles, swaggered over in her high boots, "This car is so cute. I just wanted to look at it!
The truth is, this car is so old, girls in their 20's never saw it in their lives. Any bro want to hook more hot girls, just buy my red sports car. It sure works with dumb women.Ok got to ask. What kind of car is this? DM me if don't want to say publicly?
AmericanPi
04-02-24, 14:45
Sex work is work. Sex access is a right. I found this website. https://swopusa.org/ Although some are standing against this org in the location since it is a top down approach. Sex workers want the button to move this on, not others.
One thing we can do here is just be informed and explore what is out there.
This be. S against straight men has to stop. No Marriage, No sex, No respect. No right. This is where the current straight man is and where he is headed with all this feminist turd going on unless sex work is legalized.Calm down homie. The straight man is not in danger unless sex work is legalized. Sex work is as old as time and will be around with or without legalization. And women will always go thru the same stages they have for modern times. Young and pretty will ration it out. As they approach mid 30's they will get desperate and you can basically manipulate them with ease. After that anything is on the table. Nothing has changed. Social media is confusing you.
AmericanPi
04-02-24, 14:46
So, how is the Hong Kong bar? Anyone go there?You're in the wrong place. Try knocking on another door somewhere.
So this is a odd statement to make. So you don't believe that any women are being sex trafficked?
May I ask what evidence you have that has made you come to this conclusion?You misinterpreted what I wrote. "The FALSE argument they use to stop legalization is sex trafficking. Claiming these women are coerced into it, etc. ".
The question is not if ANY women are sex trafficked.
My point was that MOST of them are not.
The truth is probably somehere in the grey middle. But opponents of prostitution make it sound like most of them are trafficked.
Its not only women responsible for prostitution being illegal in the US. A vast number of American men including those in positions of authority are impotent and deviant and have no sexual need for women. They have a facade of evangelicalism which they portray to the world in their public activities while keeping very secret their private perverted lifestyles.Agree. Bottomline. Most married men in USA are eventually 'castrated' by their wives. They tolerate it because they have no alternate path for sex.
This well done youtube video by a woman it titled 'How women castrate men' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AI-2XYcOfU.
Calm down homie. The straight man is not in danger unless sex work is legalized. Sex work is as old as time and will be around with or without legalization. And women will always go thru the same stages they have for modern times. Young and pretty will ration it out. As they approach mid 30's they will get desperate and you can basically manipulate them with ease. After that anything is on the table. Nothing has changed. Social media is confusing you.Your response indicates that my reference to "straight man" irked you. You may be a homosexual or not but it is true. I don't think gay men have these issues we are talking about. I was in Puerto Vallarta some years ago. There is a vibrant homosexual activity there somewhere down town and the southern parts. They are in the cleanest, modern and classy areas. Their parties in their clubs are really cool and happy. The only thing that contracted my skin is seeing two dudes kissing next to me, but I had to give it to the community, they seemed to be satisfied. You go to the straight areas, you find them dusty, gloomy, ashamed, dark and sad.
As you said sex work by women is as old as our species. Making it illegal introduced those bad sentiments I mentioned above plus violence, drugs and illicit activity. This is my point. Make the entire experience, difficult, underwhelming at best or even bad. The sex service in the US under these conditions is disgusting.
You misinterpreted what I wrote. "The FALSE argument they use to stop legalization is sex trafficking. Claiming these women are coerced into it, etc. ".
The question is not if ANY women are sex trafficked.
My point was that MOST of them are not.
The truth is probably somehere in the grey middle. But opponents of prostitution make it sound like most of them are trafficked.OK. Thanks for clarifying your statement.
FWIW I agree that the majority are not.
You misinterpreted what I wrote. "The FALSE argument they use to stop legalization is sex trafficking. Claiming these women are coerced into it, etc. ".
The question is not if ANY women are sex trafficked.
My point was that MOST of them are not.
The truth is probably somehere in the grey middle. But opponents of prostitution make it sound like most of them are trafficked.I agree with you 100%. Creating false narration is the name of the game in our overall culture, more so in politics. Noam Chomsky stressed this fact in his book, Manufacturing Consent. In a Democracy you can't subjugate people via violence, or anything off legal. What you do is even more sinister and damaging, you create a narration, hit it home for years in the public mind, no matter how bold faced lie it is and in the end it becomes the popular truth.
AmericanPi
04-04-24, 01:21
Your response indicates that my reference to "straight man" irked you. You may be a homosexual or not but it is true. I don't think gay men have these issues we are talking about. I was in Puerto Vallarta some years ago. There is a vibrant homosexual activity there somewhere down town and the southern parts. They are in the cleanest, modern and classy areas. Their parties in their clubs are really cool and happy. The only thing that contracted my skin is seeing two dudes kissing next to me, but I had to give it to the community, they seemed to be satisfied. You go to the straight areas, you find them dusty, gloomy, ashamed, dark and sad.
As you said sex work by women is as old as our species. Making it illegal introduced those bad sentiments I mentioned above plus violence, drugs and illicit activity. This is my point. Make the entire experience, difficult, underwhelming at best or even bad. The sex service in the US under these conditions is disgusting.I'm not gay. Tho it'the be interesting if I was and I was as active as I am here.
This is a good discussion. I'm going to take another angle.
I'm actually glad that sex work is not as good here as elsewhere. When I go to other countries, even Tijuana which is only a few hours for me, I'm a bit of a kid in a candy store. I don't have unlimited funds, but I'm not far from that. I wouldn't notice if my bank accounts were 10 k higher or lower on any given day. That's not a brag. I'm saying people like me are in danger if it's too easy. It's like putting a liquor store next door to an alcoholic. If money isn't a throttle you're in danger. I stopped going to massage parlors and stuff long long ago. The p4 p game just sucks here. Tired of being jerked off by 50 year old mamasans. So I basically just save up the energy for my regular jaunts to Mexico or Europe or Asia. And then I go goddamn wild. 18-20 year olds lined up in advance for days. A revolving door of young girls parades in and out of my hotel room. But I think if it were down the street from my I would have a hard time keeping my career and normal life in order. I thank god that it sucks here. I don't need that.
Like To Lic
04-04-24, 03:36
I just went through three pages of reports and nothing about Hong Kong club? You are the worst mongers ever! This site used to be amazing for information that was helpful. No you are all debating BS. Get back to what this is for!
I just went through three pages of reports and nothing about Hong Kong club? You are the worst mongers ever! This site used to be amazing for information that was helpful. No you are all debating BS. Get back to what this is for!2 posts and already judging. Your info you seek is every where in this dir, find it.
I enjoy mongering though. I am not bitter or resentful about it. I want to do it.
The financials I am not really worried about. Not really a concern for me.Just saw your reply. Hey my advice was not based on resenting the mongering hobby at all. My advice was against forming your life around it at a young age. It really is a matter of priorities. Enjoy it but do not let it define you. This is it.
YounGun3393
04-04-24, 09:20
Keep your silly rants in the PMs. No one cares about your religious political social opinion (s).
I'm actually glad that sex work is not as good here as elsewhere. When I go to other countries, even Tijuana which is only a few hours for me, I'm a bit of a kid in a candy store. I don't have unlimited funds, but I'm not far from that. That's not a brag. I'm saying people like me are in danger if it's too easy. It's like putting a liquor store next door to an alcoholic. If money isn't a throttle you're in danger. The p4p game just sucks here. But I think if it were down the street from my I would have a hard time keeping my career and normal life in order. I thank god that it sucks here. I don't need that.I heard that!
AmericanPi
04-04-24, 20:20
Keep your silly rants in the PMs. No one cares about your religious political social opinion (s).Respectfully, I disagree.
When you get to the point that you have hundreds or thousands of comments and reports, you will find that they're all basically the same. I get it. You went to HK, the waiters were pushy, some hot girl caught your eye, and you either took her up, or you are upset because some other other guy got to her first. And you had sex and tipped the guy after. It's rinse and repeat.
But what I like here is not so much that this is a forum about Hong Kong. It's a forum for discussion amongst the **kind of people** who frequent Hong Kong. I like that. And yes of course that means that 75% of the post will be on Hong Kong. You should just ignore the other ones if they bother you.
I just went through three pages of reports and nothing about Hong Kong club?Ha. There's even a special thread for that bar http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2231-Hong-Kong-Club-Reports..
LuvMexicanas
04-05-24, 02:00
Hong Kong outside of Tijuana. I messaged an ad on Mileroticos in Sonora last night and surprise, surprise the chica who showed up is one I've tapped in Hong Kong. It's no secret that plenty of girls from Sonora travel to Tijuana to work in Hong Kong but what are the odds of running into one I've fucked in her hometown? It was a much better session, calmer and less chaotic. Damage was just dos mil and it included BBFS+CIP with a big smile on her face.
Respectfully, I disagree.
When you get to the point that you have hundreds or thousands of comments and reports, you will find that they're all basically the same. I get it. You went to HK, the waiters were pushy, some hot girl caught your eye, and you either took her up, or you are upset because some other other guy got to her first. And you had sex and tipped the guy after. It's rinse and repeat.
But what I like here is not so much that this is a forum about Hong Kong. It's a forum for discussion amongst the **kind of people** who frequent Hong Kong. I like that. And yes of course that means that 75% of the post will be on Hong Kong. You should just ignore the other ones if they bother you.I agree with AmericanPi, because on this forum we can discuss not only the situation in clubs in Zona Norte, Hong Kong, Adelita, Chicago, etc. , but also topics related to prostitution and everything related to this topic, even in the USA. (BTW that's why we're all in Tijuana Zona Norte because it's not easy in the US) and on other forums we will be immediately censored and banned discussing prostitution.
MacNCheeze
04-05-24, 14:47
But what I like here is not so much that this is a forum about Hong Kong. It's a forum for discussion amongst the **kind of people** who frequent Hong Kong.That's fine and all, but it belongs in a different thread. This one is for information about Hong Kong. I'm here to read about updates in the club, not the philosophical ramblings of lonely men. There's already a dedicated page for the nonsense that's been flooding this thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4077-Stupid-Shit-in-Tijuana
Hong Kong outside of Tijuana. I messaged an ad on Mileroticos in Sonora last night and surprise, surprise the chica who showed up is one I've tapped in Hong Kong. It's no secret that plenty of girls from Sonora travel to Tijuana to work in Hong Kong but what are the odds of running into one I've fucked in her hometown? It was a much better session, calmer and less chaotic. Damage was just dos mil and it included BBFS+CIP with a big smile on her face.Some move away from the clubs and service through date sites, or escort sites. The smartest girls keep their trusted Johns for themselves or even within their circle of friends external to the sex clubs. Beats me these latter types of girls are very very few. They would rather rough it out in HK and other clubs, pay the damn 20 drink fine they pay per day, compete with other knockouts, standing like lamp-poles to get business in HK.
I tell you, I used to have a regular tall sexy model type girl called Linda in HK who had no kids at the time. She lived somewhere in Playas. Once time in her day of descanso, asked her to come see me, 2 hours, $150, get something to eat, chill in the tub in the room, watch music vids on YT, fuck once. I was in Hotel Placio Azteca, a nice, good class, safe hotel. I see lots of pilots and flight attendants say there. Linda said no. She was out shopping with her friends. Asked her to hook me up with one of her friends. She said no. Assuming all she told me about her is true, this looked really stupid to me. Girls in Tijuana and what I saw in PV, so can say all of Mexico, are really un-creative when it comes to expanding their chance of making easy safe money. This is in contrast of what takes place in Colombia. Following day I saw Linda standing like a lamp-post in some corner in HK.
But what I like here is not so much that this is a forum about Hong Kong. It's a forum for discussion amongst the **kind of people** who frequent Hong KongRight on. My sentiment excactly.
Hong Kong outside of Tijuana. I messaged an ad on Mileroticos in Sonora last night and surprise, surprise the chica who showed up is one I've tapped in Hong Kong. It's no secret that plenty of girls from Sonora travel to Tijuana to work in Hong Kong but what are the odds of running into one I've fucked in her hometown? It was a much better session, calmer and less chaotic. Damage was just dos mil and it included BBFS+CIP with a big smile on her face.Yeah that's crazy low odds I would think. Although I've had several seemingly low-probability events in Tijuana. Maybe the odds of a hot puta in Sonora visiting HK is not low. But yeah the odds that you banged her in HK, then stumbled into her in her hometown, that's not likely.
Did she recognize you?
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