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Admin
01-01-06, 01:00
Please use this thread to announce your travel plans and your intentions to meet up with other Forum Members.

Tarambana Guy
03-10-06, 21:46
Hi mates,

Planning to be in Kiev from the 28th of April to the 1st of May, anyone interested in doing some night hunting? Any clues about where/when to go?

Cheers.

Bandit7
03-16-06, 22:36
Hi happy mongers!

I'm going to be in Kiev 22-26 march, so if anyone interested in a night out please pm me.

Europe 74
03-24-06, 16:04
I'll be in Kiev for two nights. Anybody want to hook up let me know.

Dogpatch

Jackmiov
03-24-06, 19:36
I will be in Kiev 7th - 17th April, if anyone wants a wingman let me know.

Jack.

Herveberdat
03-27-06, 12:45
I will be in Kiev (in apartment) from 3 to 15 April.

If somebody wants exchange informations or go out together in good places.

My english is average!

Herve

Dsmurth
03-28-06, 05:41
I will be in Odessa 19th, English speaking American, first time to Odessa. PM me if you are in town

Zxywv1000
03-29-06, 21:13
I will be in Kiev and would like to travel to Crimea during this time period. I am a 52 year old American and would like to join other for clubing etc.

Europe 74
03-30-06, 08:21
Any information on jazz clubs in Kiev? Looking for a nice mainstream place rather than fusion or funk, et all.

Any info is appreciated.

Europe74

Delgado
03-30-06, 08:54
the new disco ring, a few minutes south of the center, has a jazz club and a strip club integrated. i met the owner of the place, inci, he hangs out at club 112 in arena pretty often, i´d go there first and ask if they can give you the program.
one other place is eric aigner´s art club 44 on kreschatyk, 44 also being the house number.

Europe 74
03-30-06, 14:40
I'll check it out.

Europe


the new disco ringo, a few minutes south of the center, has a jazz club and a strip club integrated. i met the owner of the place, inci, he hangs out at club 112 in arena pretty often, i´d go there first and ask if they can give you the program.
one other place is eric aigner´s art club 44 on kreschatyk, 44 also being the house number.

Pt Sailor
04-11-06, 14:12
I will be in Kiev during those days and possible an excursion to Odessa to check the scene there. Anyone wanting to join for drinks, the Boat or trip to Odessa contact me please at [Email Address deleted by Admin] I am a 56 y/old American.

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Will B Have
04-11-06, 21:48
Hi guys,

I will be in Odessa April 18-22 and Kiev April 23-29. Anyone available for drinks and decent action? I'm 38, quite okay-looking and relatively successful in the Eastern Prairies. Know Ukraine well, speak some local dialect. More into model-type freebies (if possible) than escort scams, as long as I am not too desperate or drunk.

Gibil
04-14-06, 13:22
Hello gents,

Anyone want to join for drinks, RP etc PM me.

Nufc9
04-17-06, 01:59
Hi Guys,

I will be in Odessa from late May for almost a month.

I'm taking my laptop with me for work so i can update you all daily with my reports ;)

I think I will be staying at CA Travellers suites if they are ready in time.

If anyone else is in Odessa in June, let me know as it would be good to have a hunting partner.

Cant wait.

Rob

Delgado
05-02-06, 21:40
Next trip to Kiev: May 17-May 23. Anybody else there during that time?

CrystalCowboy
05-06-06, 20:25
Hello!

I am a 29 year old boy from Berlin. I am already in Kiev, and I would look forward for a good company to hunt sweet pussy!

I live in a nice apartment whit whirlpool in the center of Kiev.

Bandit7
05-09-06, 21:24
Hi!

I will be in kiev last week in may, so if there is anyone out there at the same time please feel free to pm if you fancy a night out.

Bandit 7

Alan1066
05-21-06, 19:45
Mid-30s, fit, know some Russian. Let me know if you want to go clubbing together.

Bandit7
05-21-06, 22:08
Alan1066,

Just in case you don't sign in when you on the board, I have pm you and it sounds good to me.

bandit7

Delgado
05-30-06, 19:03
And it´s Kiev again, first week of june...

Bez Bezarra
05-31-06, 02:22
Its official! Ukraine has left East Europe.

Agencies reporting tenfold increase in incoming visitors over this same
time last year. ALL acommodations completely booked.

No seats available even on the trains!

Just in case you didn't even get your chance to kiss it
goodbye, too late, its the end.

If Prague suits you, then you'll be right at home.

CharlieH
05-31-06, 02:54
......THERE'S TEN TIMES MORE
VISITORS FLOODING IN. TEN FUCKING TIMES OVER
the same period last year.



Would be interesting to know the percentage of male vistors. Do you have the stats, Bez?

Doctor_Skank
05-31-06, 13:37
Hey hey Bez,

I hardly consider myself the reason for this impending disaster which I have been warning about since before even the visa lift. Any browsing of my posts will reveal that I have always said:

* Yuschenko is the monger's enemy (I mean enemy of the pioneer first wave monger, not the carpetbeggar reserves now flooding the country)

* EU, Eurovision and the corresponding visa-lift are going to ruin the market for us with time.. both pro-market and freebie market... reducing the market to a two-tiered wait-in-line with the proleteriat tourist McDonalds market and a virtually unaffordable gourmet market. Where we fit in has yet to be seen.

-and-

* I regret the day when Russia also lifts its visa requirement. I hope that day never comes, but of course it will.

And by the way, instead of drinking coffee with Beria, I prefer feeling up his great-granddaughter at Che, Prop, Club XIII or Papa Johns... all a 5 minute stroll from Lube-yankee... or picking up a girl fo rthe night at the Lubyanka tochka. :)

In any case, I already felt 2005 was much worse than 2004, which was already worse than 2003... the verdict is still out on 2006. Unfortunately the time machine back to 1998 has encountered technical difficulties.

Eros74
05-31-06, 22:14
In Siberia? Or Uzbekistan? Vladivostok? I suppose Japan is not good place...

Or are these the last years we will have pure fun and great sex with gorgeous fsu freebie girls and with pro at reasonable prices?

Just curious to know the opionions of the masters here.

Bolshoi spasibo!

CharlieH
06-01-06, 07:06
In Siberia? Or Uzbekistan? Vladivostok? I suppose Japan is not good place...

Or are these the last years we will have pure fun and great sex with gorgeous fsu freebie girls and with pro at reasonable prices?

Just curious to know the opionions of the masters here.

Bolshoi spasibo!

You're too late, pal.

Vladivostok is already full of Asian mongers. It's very close to China, Japan and Korea. The majority of the hotel guests when I was staying at Hyundai hotel in Vladivostok were Asian tourists (Japanese and Koreans). Even the blonde russiki hotel staff speak either Chinese, Japanese or Korea. Chinese mongers occupy the lower end hotels, from Gavan and down. They come with tour groups. As Chinese economy keeps growing, the once impoverished Chinese now have the chance to sample ruskie devushki by simply taking the train from Manchuria. There are of course, direct flights to VVO from Harbin. The more well off Japanese and Korean mongers have been sampling the goods for a while. I paid py3500 for only one hour of amateur love. VVO is definitely not cheap.

But no need to get totally discouraged just yet, I think anywhere outside of major cities are still good. But what can we do other than mongering in those shitholes? Probably not that safe, either. And we've got to speak Russian if we venture to middle of nowhere Russia. And oh, how do we get there?

I think the farther off the beaten track we're willing to venture to, the greater the reward can be.

Belarus is still sealed off to the outside world, which is great. But I didn't have a very positive experience in there compares to Russia.

I'm actually glad that Vladimir Putin seems to be reverting to the old Soviet style. And I don't think Russia will ever join EU. Not sure about them lifting visa though. Russia shouldn't be lumped with smaller EE nations imo. Russia will always be Russia and it should be in an entirely different catagory all by itself. What's happening or has happened in Hungary/Poland may happen in Ukraine or Romania in the future but Russia will always be Russia. It will never be completely penetrated, ask Hitler and Napolean. Folks in EE countries are desperate to be "Europeans" but Russians still want to and are very proud to be ruski, albeit richer ruski. In many ways Russia and EE countries are so different in many aspects. Let's have faith in the Motherland. Russia is too proud, too big, too deep, too endowed and too rich culturally to be changed.

p.s. I know this is Ukraine thread. Moderator, feel free to move my post to the more appropriate section.

Doctor_Skank
06-01-06, 12:45
Although I dont think ISG had a significant effect in over-promoting Ukraine or Talinn for that matter... after all mongers seemed to discover Prague pretty much on their own in the mid-90's... it does make one cautious about celebrating a new found mongering haven. The bulk of the mongers are from Europe (particularly Italy but also France, Germany, Scandi and England) and Turkey. Most Americans seem to go to EE to find a bride, rather then just get p4p pussy. If they only knew... actually its better they dont.

Thats my point and I agree with Bez on this one.

Are we overpromoting our private paradises? Does ISG have any real effect on these places, or am I being paranoid?

My case example in Moldava, which is seemingly being overrun by mongers and frustrating the old school mongers there who see their private paradise losing its exclusiveness. Is that just a natural development, boosted by Moldava's reputation as a dirt poor country with beautiful desperate women and its convenient proximity to Italy and Turkey, who seem to make up the base of mass mongering in that part of Europe? Or do Essi's reports overhype the place and draw in countless lurking mongers from ISG who fuck it up? The same could be said for any number of reports from regular members including Bez and myself about mongering locales that may or may not have been widely known before being reported on here.

I tend to think the flood of mongers is only marginally affected by ISG and I like to think of ISG as some sort of elite educated mongering core, but that may also just be my own naive thinking.

In any case, I am sure that based on recent trends, that many senior members, myself included, will be hesitant to reveal our best locales... call it selfish if you will, its just a defense mechanism.

Eros74
06-01-06, 21:07
So in which section we can keep on posting about it?

CA Traveler
06-02-06, 12:14
Bez... don't worry! I've got room for you in Odessa... for almost all summer, BUT you should go ahead and lock something up or you'll be SOL.

Bez Bezarra
06-03-06, 23:21
Does the room have padded walls and a straight jacket?

Peter the Great
06-08-06, 08:39
Will be in Odessa again Oct 10th.

Anybody going yet?

Let me know.

Peter

Ngui68
06-11-06, 22:37
Dear All,

I will be mongering in Kiev by the 12th of July. Anyone interetsed? Just PM me!

Cheers

BartonJunk
06-28-06, 22:35
Hi,

I will be in Odessa July 8-11. Anyone else gonna be there at this time?

Would love to have a beer and chat about the hobby. You can PM me if you're going to be around.

Can hardly wait for em yummy Odessan babes.

Bart

Sauce
06-30-06, 00:13
Does anybody know of a website for Ukraine Train schedules from Kiev to other cities in Ukraine? I once had such a website but can't find it anymore!

Cd Londoner
06-30-06, 01:08
Hello,

I have just found this site and must say what a useful resource for like-minded mongers.

Down to business - I will be flying in to Kiev on 10 July then heading across to Lviv for 11-12 July before heading home. Let me know if this fits with your schedule.

CD

Cd Londoner
06-30-06, 20:33
Hi,

I will be in Lviv from 11-13 July. Would be good to meet up with a fellow monger. Let me know if you're out there.

Cd

Life Discover
07-02-06, 09:24
I working in Kiev as city guide have dissent English not many people speak English here. I can find place to stay for less than there on Internet because working all time with agency. You don’t have to pay me up front just let me know when and for how long and what price is good for you even this site wise I get you discount 15-20%. I can meet you at “Borispol” airport and drive to place you need or the one I find for you, +guide-consult you on rest.

GermanBoy 2
07-02-06, 13:50
Hi guys,

First time of my life I will entering Odessa at 13 of July. If there is anybody who wants to have a beer with a german treveller, just let me know:-))

Cheers

Dandi
07-03-06, 23:08
Hi,

I am in Odessa from 13 to 20 July.

If someone will meet me just send a message

Ok Farm Boy
07-20-06, 20:18
Is anyone traveling to Odessa in August been there a couple of times already and love it. Just looking for a beer drinking buddy while I am there.

Alan1066
07-29-06, 17:02
I'm in Crimea now, but I'm considering whether to go to Odessa this week. I was there last summer and liked it, except that I didn't have a wingman. I'd really like to meet up with an English- (and Ua.-Ru.-?) speaking foreign or local guy or guys to hit the clubs on Arkady, esp. to reserve tables for dyevs. I'm in my early 30s, fit, and I speak some Russian. If I don't stay in Odessa, I'll go on to Belgrade, then possibly the Baltics. Hobbyists in S. Ua. are also welcome to contact me at 380 95 308 4740; I use the PM system sporadically.

Patter75
07-30-06, 15:14
Hi,

I am going to Odessa (20.-28. August) and to Kiev (28.8-2.9); appartments and flights are already booked. If anybody wants to meet for a beer or more, my email is [Email address deleted by Admin]. By the way, I am Swiss, 30yo and speak only German and English.

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Ok Farm Boy
08-03-06, 04:25
I didn't put the dates of travel. I will be in Odessa the 17th to the 21st. Hope someone will be there too.

Doctor_Skank
08-16-06, 10:29
Will be in Kiev from this Saturday 19.08.06 and am looking for a wingman for club action. I am planning to go to "normal" discos most of the week and am not looking for pro action, but rather to chase skirts. If anyone interested, PM me!

Altered Ego
08-21-06, 21:59
I'm travelling solo to Kiev this weekend (assuming they don't close all the UK airports again). If anybody feels like meeting up for a beer please PM me.

I'm a skinny English guy in my mid-40s (although I sometimes pay women to tell me I look slightly younger). I'll be arriving late on Friday and departing on Monday afternoon. I've already been to Kiev once, in May this year. The only place of note I visited last time was River Palace, so I'm hoping I might try one or two new venues this time.

I don't speak Russian (dammit!).

InterTraveler
11-26-06, 03:21
If any fellow mongers want to hook up, 1'll be in Kiev Dec 1st

PM me

Tonit66
11-27-06, 02:42
I will be in Kiev nov 30th and dec 1st on a business trip (gonna stay at Premier Palac or at Radisson).

Tried to PM Toronto guy, but was not possible as he seems to not be a paying member.

If some one wants to catch up, pls feel free to PM me.

Dougus
12-05-06, 17:54
I'll be around during Christmas and New Years. Does anyone know how the action is during the holiday season?

Ismael
12-05-06, 19:24
During Christmas and New year it is a little calmer, because many students go home to their parents, who mostly live outside of Kiev. But there is still enough to do. Only u need to know that you will have to pay a high fee if you want to enter a club on new years eve. If you are lucky the lowest fee will be about 150 grivna in 112. But maybe less. Other clubs like Patipa, Arena, Kaif, Prime, Decadence and so on, will ask a much higher fee. (150-400 without any drinks)
Also the entrance fee for a club like River Palace will be high. I think on new years eve in every club will be action. If you are just looking for a nice time I can recommend Patipa, Kaif and 112. If you especially looking for p4p go to Arena, Modabar or Decadence.
But action will be everywhere, even on Kreshatik.
Greets

Banker24
12-15-06, 11:48
I will be in Kiev from Dec 21 to Jan 11 - yeah it's a long time. I'm American, but have been in London for the past few months. The time in Kiev is the last segment of my European vacation. It'll be my first time there, so wouldn't mind a couple of drinks with some of you who know the city better and can point me to the great nightlife I've read about in these threads. I'm quite young, dress smart, work in finance, and will be on the look out for birds running about.

P.S. I heard apartments were the way to go. I booked a nice modern one for $120/night. Any thoughts or comments on this expense would be appreciated as well.

Doctor_Skank
12-21-06, 10:07
It's official, I'll be in Kiev for the Super Bowl on Sunday Feb 4. I plan on watching in Arena... if anybody is up for drinks and laughs in the wee hours of the morning, drop me a line!

Irish Lad
01-04-07, 13:45
Hi all,

I checked out closing times of Arena sports bar and it's "1 or 2am, it depends" so maybe an alternative venue should be sourced.

Cruiser D
01-04-07, 17:05
The 2nd floor bar (sports bar) is open Superbowl night (morning). It's one of those times that 'depends'. ;)

Arena is without a doubt the best venue for watching the Superbowl in Kiev. This will be my 3rd if I am still in Kiev for the 2007 SB. I was in RP the other night when JAX was playing. There was about 8 minutes left in a close game and the fuckers changed the channel to watch Nordic Skiing.

Kanitha
01-06-07, 16:52
Hi,

I am looking for good websites about Odessa. I use www.odessa.eu a lot but it has no information about hookers. Its more a travel planning website. Can anybody mention a website where I can contact girls?

Cruiser D
01-07-07, 12:05
I haven't confirmed it but word is from one of the female managers at Arena that the disco is closed for renovations until Feb - March. The other floors are still open.

Doctor_Skank
01-07-07, 12:41
The 2nd floor bar (sports bar) is open Superbowl night (morning). It's one of those times that 'depends'. ;)

Arena is without a doubt the best venue for watching the Superbowl in Kiev. This will be my 3rd if I am still in Kiev for the 2007 SB. I was in RP the other night when JAX was playing. There was about 8 minutes left in a close game and the fuckers changed the channel to watch Nordic Skiing.

Ouch... the bar better be open on Super Bowl Sunday... if I can't watch SB there I guess RP is the only other choice? The game runs 1-5am if I calculated right... would be a bummer if the disco is indeed closed though, I was going to use the disco as my alternative option for entertainment if the game sucked.

Cruiser D
01-09-07, 10:04
The Arena sports bar is still open. I was there for the NFC wildcard game the other night (Christmas). However they closed early and booted us out at midnight. We went to RP to watch the rest of the NYG-PHI game.

RP might be a better choice if you want to mix girls and football. The downside of course is being distracted by girls you want no part of. I had a tall blond amazon sit right next to me and blab for about 15-20 minutes. She didn't believe me when I told her I was just there for the game.

Doctor_Skank
01-09-07, 10:34
RP might be a better choice if you want to mix girls and football. .

When does RP close in the morning?

I am thinking that if Arena doesn't work out as a SB viewing venue, I might have to RP... I think the SB runs 1-5am on a Sunday night/Monday morning.

If the game sucks I could leave at halftime with your Amazon babe... :)

Cruiser D
01-09-07, 13:34
Does the Boat ever truly close in Kiev?

It's open to at least 0600 so the girls can take the metro back home.

Doctor_Skank
01-09-07, 13:47
Does the Boat ever truly close in Kiev?

It's open to at least 0600 so the girls can take the metro back home.

I thought it had to close before dawn and the vampire girls turn to dust...

Lapin
01-23-07, 22:42
Anybody knows if you need a Visa to visit Ukraine coming from an EU country?

Sevastopol1
01-24-07, 08:52
Anybody knows if you need a Visa to visit Ukraine coming from an EU country?EU passport holders can stay for up to 3 months without a visa.

Sev

Ismael
02-15-07, 23:35
Hmmmm…….according to the stamps in my passport I will make flight nr. 199 to Kiev tomorrow and next Sunday nr. 200 back :-)). So I am going to be for the 100 time in Kiev. I think I should celebrate a little. So if anyone likes to hang out with me in the evening or night next week, until 25th, send me a PM.

Luvs Girls
02-16-07, 09:20
I am going to Kiev in March - unfortunately, only for one night. Has anyone ever been to massage places there? I will be staying at "Rus Hotel" and was hoping to bring home a "friend." Has anybody had any experience there? Any help will be appreciated!

Geo Daddy
02-19-07, 16:03
Hmmm. Two weeks to burn. As a one time Philippines, Indon traveler, I'm trying to decide. Columbia or the Ukraine? Plus for the Ukraine, I have contacts and the girls are bit closer to my Eastern European upbringing (Hungarian). On the other hand. I've been to Cuba, dance salsa and find the whole Latin American thing a bit more "hot" than my cold ancestory.

NeilSydney
02-21-07, 16:32
I'd love to meet up for a beer with anyone else in town. 3rd trip to Kiev, no work, so plenty of free time....let me know if interested.

Xasik
02-23-07, 00:03
Hi guys,

If you need any kind of services in Kiev such appartments or driver and much more, I can give you an E-mail for 1 guy who lives in Kiev for 15 years Lebanese cool guy, he can arange everything for you for some %commission.

This his E-mail: [Email address deleted by Admin]

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P Bear
03-01-07, 18:40
I will be in Kiev on a nearly 24 hour layover over April 11-12. I have limited Russian language ability. I have stayed at the Airport Hotel in the past, but would prefer to try elesewhere. Any referals would be wonderful. I am pretty low key and do not do well in the bar scene. I would like to arrange something or find a line-up sort of situation. Any help would be appreciated. PM is okay.

P Bear

Ukrainkemeup
03-02-07, 10:35
Hello,

I need contacts and suggestions for my trip to Lugansk March 10. 17. I have been there once before, in October, but I was a fish out of water, and at the mercy of the marriage agency. I would like to know of places I should go, especially in the daytime. I am from Texas. I will be using a marriage agency once again, but would like to spend some independent time there.

Please help.

Thank you!

Captain Fire
03-02-07, 15:27
Getting into Kiev March 19, then down to Vinnitsa. Will be travelling around most of March and early April. PM me if anyone wants to hook up for a beer or two somewhere. I've been coming here for a couple of years and can make my way around OK.

American Ukraine
03-03-07, 10:36
Hello,

I need contacts and suggestions for my trip to Lugansk March 10. 17. I have been there once before, in October, but I was a fish out of water, and at the mercy of the marriage agency. I would like to know of places I should go, especially in the daytime. I am from Texas. I will be using a marriage agency once again, but would like to spend some independent time there.

Please help.

Thank you!Hi Ukrainemeup, get in touch with me when you are in Lugansk +[Telephone Number deleted by Admin] , I will do my best to help you out!

American_Ukraine

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Ua Expat
03-03-07, 12:45
Hello Everyone,

I am an Expat living in Kiev. What I propose is a semi regular Texas Hold'em Poker night for the Expats living in Kiev and its environs.

We could gather on a "slow night", play some cards, share experiences and builded some camraderie.

We could do this as O'Briens or Gold Gate or where ever.

What do you say.

Aloha

Xpat

Privetprivet
03-26-07, 15:25
Hi there,

I would very much appreciate some advice. Having resigned from my job in Moscow (7 years living in Moscow) I have decided to take a holiday in Odessa over the summer. Have been offered an apartment (Studio) in Odessa for 550$ US/month from May - July (90 day tourist Visa duration) and would really appreciate some advice. I am not new to EE, having traveled extensively for work over the last 7 years, including Kiev. I also know Russian although it needs improving. So here goes.. my objectives for the trip and advice needed.

1. My primary aim is to improve my Russian to fluency. I am British, and can obviously give language exchange. Would the English faculty at the local University help?

2. I rarely drink and am only into freebies (not p2p) - where is the best place to start? Actually this should be #1 and my Russian Study #2.. because babes always distract you from study!!

3. Is 550/month good for a basic semi-remonted studio? I need to decide quick or it will go. Is it possible just to arrive in Odessa and then look for an apartment?

4. Cheapest way to Odessa from the UK? Flights seem real expensive. I would prefer to get train however if I can.

5. What budget a month? Say 550 for apartment, would another 1000 USD/month be OK for fun? As I said I don't do p2p :) the 1000 would be to entertain freebies and for food etc.

6. Are their any gotchas? I'm EE streetwise, but not Ukraine streetwise.

7. Can I stay after 90 days? (British passport)

8. Finally is their a quality gym in Odessa thats not extortionately priced? I know this is VERY unlikely but it can't harm asking.

Thanks guys!

Regnom
03-28-07, 13:45
Hi Guys,

After reading about all the fantastic things that is going on in Ukraine, I thought I will give it a try. I will be in Kiev from 4/12-4/20 and hope one of you "expert" would let me buy you a drink. Maybe we can get together and have some fun hunting.

I am also looking for a good website where I can book apartment and transport with. It seems GIA do it but I was wondering if there are other alternatives I can look into. What kind of apartment rental rates should I expect for a nice one bed room place near where the actions are? I need a place with a good broadband connection to stay in touch with my office so it is important that I deal with a reliable site who will deliver what they promise.

I dont speak Russian or Ukrainian. If you guys know of some good looking guides who also double as companion, I would really appreciate the lead.

A chick I was chatting with told me that the banking system in Ukraine is unreliable and that I should not depend on credit card but to bring at least half of my budget in cash. Can anyone tell me if that is all bull? I dont like bringing lots of cash on me.

Hope to read your advice

Cruiser D
04-01-07, 01:18
$550/month is doable but you won't be staying in Kiev Center.

If you want to extend your stay longer then 90 days take a quick flight (or slow train) to Poland and then re enter for another 90 days.


Hi there,


Thanks guys!

Cruiser D
04-01-07, 01:28
Reg,

I don't like recommending apartment agencies but if you read the forum you will find some names mentioned. They are all generally the same, you get overcharged for an apartment and sometimes for the pickup/drop off at the airport. I've never heard of an apartment agency missing an airport pick up/drop off tho.

The banking system is fine. During my last trip I used CC's and my ATM card - there are ATM's everywhere in Kiev, you can use your ATM card to load up on local currency and save the USD (or Euros) for the pros. Last trip I noticed a lot of enclosed 24/7 bank ATM's. I generally bring about $500 with me in USD. But most apartment agencies like to get paid in cash so get the payment arrangements settled before you go.

Of course all this has already been answered before in the forum..;)

Irish Lad
04-01-07, 23:02
1. Native English speakers are much in demand across all of Ukraine.

2. Derrabaskavaya st (excuse the spelling).

3. If close to the centre then grab it. Yes, you can arrive and look but the later in the season the harder it is.

4. Cycle.

5. $1, 000 a month for fun? Yes, but maybe 1 night a week after your own expenses.

6. So many to list. Just remember the Odessa girls drink a lot and are very mercenary.

7. No. You must leave and return.

8. What’s a gym?

You're about to enter the lionesses den. I wish you luck, I feel you'll need it.

It Travel
04-04-07, 06:22
1. native english speakers are much in demand across all of ukraine.

2. derrabaskavaya st (excuse the spelling).

3. if close to the centre then grab it. yes, you can arrive and look but the later in the season the harder it is.

4. cycle.

5. $1, 000 a month for fun? yes, but maybe 1 night a week after your own expenses.

6. so many to list. just remember the odessa girls drink a lot and are very mercenary.

7. no. you must leave and return.

8. what’s a gym?

you're about to enter the lionesses den. i wish you luck, i feel you'll need it.


dear friend, as irish lad says if you want real fun you are out of budget. apart gym and other things... get a permanent (1 year) business visa it costs, but it's worth, like russian one, but ukranian is cheaper.

"rent" a student teen (you will find a lot on flirt or equivalent database, approx 2.000 for rent, if you up to 25, 6 or 7.000 in kiev only!) 18-20 y.o. for 2.000/2.500 usd a month. she will do everything, but mind to note to rent a monger bisexual one to get her in bed with her girlfiends... nice experiences!

the best of all was, as far as today, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), as irish lad knows well, unfortunately she is reneted for a higher sum now, from a guy doing exactly this, some times, she told me, even triplettes...

i think that in this case (often triplettes) you do not have to care on a gym! ;)

it

Nolies
04-05-07, 03:45
IT TRAVEL. Either you are a billionaire in the same league as Bill Gates or you are out of touch with reality. To give 2500$ a month to a dievoushka to entertain you and clean your appartment? GET A GRIP: you are NOT in Switzerland, London or Dubai! Here in Ukraine, people are extremely happy with a 500$ a month salary! Its guys like you that are getting the locals used to prices that they never dreamed of! By accepting to pay high rent prices, by going to expensive restaurants, by accepting to pay pro's $200+, by buying expensive gifts and mobiles to freebies etc etc, you contribute to making the Ukraine destination out of reach pricewise! I really don't understand you. If you can afford to spend that kind of cash, why don't you stay in Western Europe or the USA?

Please, when in Rome, do as Romans. When in Ukraine, pay the pro's the prices that ukrainian men themselves would pay and buy the freebies the kind of gifts that ukrainian men would buy them!

It Travel
04-05-07, 05:48
IT TRAVEL. Either you are a billionaire in the same league as Bill Gates or you are out of touch with reality. To give 2500$ a month to a dievoushka to entertain you and clean your appartment? GET A GRIP: you are NOT in Switzerland, London or Dubai! Here in Ukraine, people are extremely happy with a 500$ a month salary! Its guys like you that are getting the locals used to prices that they never dreamed of! By accepting to pay high rent prices, by going to expensive restaurants, by accepting to pay pro's $200+, by buying expensive gifts and mobiles to freebies etc etc, you contribute to making the Ukraine destination out of reach pricewise! I really don't understand you. If you can afford to spend that kind of cash, why don't you stay in Western Europe or the USA?

Please, when in Rome, do as Romans. When in Ukraine, pay the pro's the prices that ukrainian men themselves would pay and buy the freebies the kind of gifts that ukrainian men would buy them!


I do not think you can get a Kiev teenage student 18-19 or so in your bed, living with you, and never saying no if you want it sucked or if you want to take her anally for 500 USD a month!

I was offered a devuska for cleaning an apartment (every day) for 600-700 EUR in the afternoon. a couple of hours or three, one of cleaning the rest fuking...

I mean a real sponsored girls living with you all the time... As far as I know the cost in Moscow (in Russian, for Russians) was from 30.000 to 100.000 RUR a month.. al below 21, the last ones real stunners (could go con central page in Playboy) but of course they have to be also sexual maniacs!

IT

Bez Bezarra
04-05-07, 12:06
The rent and real estate market is a victim of local (Russian and Ukrainian) investment and speculation. We foreigners also have to pay these prices, but it's not because of us.... and we aren't paying more than the locals.



Skank.
I've just been informed by my 'new' landlord that rent for the flat I had last summer in Russia that was 2000 ruble per day has jumped up to 3000 ruble per day for this spring/summer. No its not in the capital, but it is on the main drag of a city. I was the first tenant last year after it had been completely renovated, so it was nice and unsoiled, and I broke it in in true monger debauching style.

But that's a pretty big jump in price, eh?

And one more rent question. On most apartment rental websites, you generally see that they ask you for full price if you rent for less than 10 days, but if you rent for 2 weeks, they drop the price by 300 to 500 rubles per day. For example, 2500 rubles per day, but for 14 days, only 2000 rubles per day.

Now that I am being gouged for 3000 rubles per day, shouldn't I demand a discount for my 14 day rental?

Doctor_Skank
04-05-07, 12:48
Skank.
I've just been informed by my 'new' landlord that rent for the flat I had last summer in Russia that was 2000 ruble per day has jumped up to 3000 ruble per day for this spring/summer. No its not in the capital, but it is on the main drag of a city. I was the first tenant last year after it had been completely renovated, so it was nice and unsoiled, and I broke it in in true monger debauching style.

But that's a pretty big jump in price, eh?

And one more rent question. On most apartment rental websites, you generally see that they ask you for full price if you rent for less than 10 days, but if you rent for 2 weeks, they drop the price by 300 to 500 rubles per day. For example, 2500 rubles per day, but for 14 days, only 2000 rubles per day.

Now that I am being gouged for 3000 rubles per day, shouldn't I demand a discount for my 14 day rental?

Moved this thread to General Info...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=815

Doctor_Skank
04-05-07, 13:06
Moved the sponsorship topic as well to the appropriate thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=582159#post582159

Delgado
06-06-07, 17:15
I arrived in Odessa today for six days of beach and nightlife, weather is great, anybody else here this week?

The Stuntdick
06-07-07, 03:11
Does anyone know any good flats to rent on the beach in Yalta or anyweb sights that I can check out.

Thanks for the time

The stuntdick

Nufc9
06-07-07, 12:29
I arrive in Kiev June 22. Would love to meet up and have a wingman. Let me know if you will be there the same time. I will be in Ukraine for 3 weeks.

BayView
06-22-07, 01:40
I plan to travel to Odessa probably in July. Anyone want to meet up?

The Stuntdick
06-23-07, 04:21
My Brother Aka (king Cod Sack) And I Are Going To Kiev July 20 And Would Like To Meet Up With Some Other Cocksmen To Pilage All The Hot Available Ladys In The Ukraine. If You Think Any Of You Can Keep "up" With Us. Heheheehe

The Stuntdick

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Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Ok Farm Boy
06-23-07, 10:30
I will be in Yalta from the 6th to the 10th and then Kiev from the 10th to 15th.

I need a wingman to chase tail with.

Lust 7
06-24-07, 07:34
I am going to Crimea at the height of tourist season in July. Is there a town that is remote by the sea that is beautiful and not too many tourists? I have herd Feodosia is nice. For the budget traveler where is the best place in Crimea to stay? Has anyone stayed in ‘Babcia house" -that is a place where a little old lady lets you say in her place for 5 dollars a night? I do not care about luxury, just plumbing. I think when I get there in July most hotels will be pricy for my modest budget.

I herd Odessa has more beautiful girls than Krym or Crimean is this true? But I think it’s all fished out, as all the girls there are spoiled with western guys looking for action in Odessa. I just want a remote town by the beach that is beautiful, in Crimea and a cheap place to stay for a week or two.

Are there places I can get massages in Crimea or is it just beaches? I think massages places are just in the cities.

What about the trains? If I am traveling from Kiev, should I take first or second class or even third class? Are the trains safe? Does anyone know if they have electrical outlets?

Any other travel ideas or suggestions for my trip to Crimea?

Thanks in advance.

Doctor_Skank
06-24-07, 15:57
I plan to travel to Odessa probably in July. Anyone want to meet up?

I'll be in ODS July 5-8... drop me a line if that matches your schedule, I'll certainly be going to Arkadia on Thurs-Sat.

BayView
06-24-07, 18:39
I'll be in ODS July 5-8... drop me a line if that matches your schedule, I'll certainly be going to Arkadia on Thurs-Sat.

Right now I'm looking at arriving sometime between the 11th and 15th. I'll check to see if I can rearrange things.

Bez Bezarra
06-24-07, 22:50
In Crimea at the height of tourist season is there a town that is remote by the sea that is beautiful and not too many tourists? In July most hotels will be pricy for my modest budget.

Are there places I can get massages in Crimea or is it just beaches? I think massages places are just in the cities.

If traveling from Kiev, should I take first class? Do they have electric outlets?



At this time of the year, tourists are EVRYWHERE in Crimea. Every little shit hole has tourists. Prices will be high everywhere unless you speak russian, but of course the highest in Yalta's hotels. But you SHOULD want to go where the tourists are, because half of them are girls. Forget about hot girls only in Odessa, they are everywhere.

In all the towns you will find lots of girls, just be aware that many are there with their boyfriends. Many are not also. From Fedosia and Kerch in the east, to Alupta and Alushka in the south, and Sevastopol and Yevpatoria in the west, girls are everywhere.

All the poor white trash city and country girls from Belarus, Ukraine, and even parts of Russia will be found swimming and sunning themselves by the Black Sea, drinking beer, and looking for romance.

Forget about massage PLACES, just get a girl she will massage you all you want.

By train, go ONLY first class. The electric outlet is in the toliet for your shaver, but it will stink to hell from decades of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). I wouldn't use a laptop in there.

The trains run to to the east and west, but you can only get to the south by bus.

BayView
06-25-07, 03:46
I'm probably going to delay my trip to Odessa until about August 15 so if any of you are going to be there, let me know. I'll have another friend along.

Cruiser D
06-29-07, 01:17
Bez, are you saying you can't take a train to Crimea from the north?

Member #3400
06-29-07, 12:25
I will be in Odessa in july 12. I have change my destination more then a woman change her mind but after reading the entire EE forum i have realized the Ukraine gets the most positive feedbacks.

My are Odessa and Mykolayiv and Kherson. cites of bride.

Bez latest report was excellent. I will post a report a week after my arrival.

Max

Ok Farm Boy
06-30-07, 01:17
I made some contacts via the internet and decided on Yalta 6th to the 9th, Sevastopol the 9th to the 13th and then back to good ole Kiev till the 16th. If anyone will be in those areas PM me and we can chase some women together.

Bez Bezarra
06-30-07, 04:03
Bez, you can't take a train to Crimea from the north?



CorsairB you're all mashuga.

You already know these things. These are the things that you know.

1. The rail lines split off east to Fedosia and Kerch, and southwest to Sevastopol, and Yev.

2. But during summer season, the dyevochkas wanna swim on the pretty south coast beaches, over the mountains to Yalta and the other 14 beach spots between Alushta and Alupta, (the seawater's cleaner there).

3. The southern rail line does not cross the mountains, it stops at Simferopol. Only the road reaches the south coast, buses or cars.

4. So girls come from the north by rail to SIM, then bus it. Other girls come all the way from the north by bus. They could even fly to SIM, but they ain't got money for that.

5. So, though most of the girls do go for the south, there's still loads of other girls taking trains to the western and eastern beaches. Lots of poor peasant dyevochkas with their families. What monger wouldn't want to be there during the long hot lazy summer days splashing in the sea with these delicious dyevochkas, as their healthy sunburned flesh literally bursts out of old hand me down bikini tops and bottoms, with material so worn, its practically see through. Get the picture, old man? :p

Ok Farm Boy
06-30-07, 05:52
I made some contacts via the internet and decided on Yalta 6th to the 9th, Sevastopol the 9th to the 13th and then back to good ole Kiev till the 16th. If anyone will be in those areas PM me and we can chase some women together.

BayView
07-05-07, 03:17
Update on my plans. I'll arrive in Odessa July 14th and stay a week. I'll be there with another friend too. PM me if you want to meet up for a drink or other.

PassinThrough
07-17-07, 03:13
Looks like I will finally be getting to the Ukraine. I am going to be flying into Odessa around August 20 and staying a few days there before flying to Kiev for a few days. I would love to meet up for some drinks and clubs. I am interested in going to RP and finding the MT. What can I say the pictures and stories intrigued me. I don't know much about either city, but I am reading the forums and travel books to get a feel for the places.

Thanks

PIT

Sevastopol1
07-18-07, 07:07
CorsairB you're all mashuga.

You already know these things. These are the things that you know.

1. The rail lines split off east to Fedosia and Kerch, and southwest to Sevastopol, and Yev.

2. But during summer season, the dyevochkas wanna swim on the pretty south coast beaches, over the mountains to Yalta and the other 14 beach spots between Alushta and Alupta, (the seawater's cleaner there).

3. The southern rail line does not cross the mountains, it stops at Simferopol. Only the road reaches the south coast, buses or cars.

4. So girls come from the north by rail to SIM, then bus it. Other girls come all the way from the north by bus. They could even fly to SIM, but they ain't got money for that.

5. So, though most of the girls do go for the south, there's still loads of other girls taking trains to the western and eastern beaches. Lots of poor peasant dyevochkas with their families. What monger wouldn't want to be there during the long hot lazy summer days splashing in the sea with these delicious dyevochkas, as their healthy sunburned flesh literally bursts out of old hand me down bikini tops and bottoms, with material so worn, its practically see through. Get the picture, old man? :p

Bez
Your absolutely right about item 5 :-) but I would prefer to remain silent about this, personally I don't want too much competition here!!!!
The train (and also flights) from Kiev to Crimea can be a nightmare getting a ticket (price has recently increased 60% on trains) this time of the year.
A tip for you that are desparate to get to Crimea, when you see the vast lines of people waiting to get a ticket at Kiev station, bypass this and go directly to the train you want on the platform go to the carriage that houses the bar and resturant approach the steward/stewardess and ask for a spare berth (there are several berths allocated to bar and resturant staff) expect to pay 100% more than the standard price, have managed to get the barmaids berth on a couple of occassions (unfortunately no barmaid).

Bez Bezarra
07-18-07, 11:25
Like I said, why would any monger want such hassles just to get a train ticket and then waste so many hours just to get to SIM, when you can fly for $100 and get there in 2 hours. Of course you need a local ukrainian travel agent to book your airfare a week or 2 ahead, but any seasoned traveler KNOWS THIS!

You just need some nice sweet dyevochka's papa to drive to pick you up at the SIM airport, take you out to lunch at a nice restaurant, and cart you off to a "resort" motel by the beach in Saky or Yevpatoria, where you can rough it with no aircon, no hot water, etc., but plenty of hot bikini clad college gals and their beer drinking boyfriends hanging around.

Fucking paradise!

Sevastopol1
07-18-07, 12:23
Like I said, why would any monger want such hassles just to get a train ticket and then waste so many hours just to get to SIM, when you can fly for $100 and get there in 2 hours. Of course you need a local ukrainian travel agent to book your airfare a week or 2 ahead, but any seasoned traveler KNOWS THIS!

You just need some nice sweet dyevochka's papa to drive to pick you up at the SIM airport, take you out to lunch at a nice restaurant, and cart you off to a "resort" motel by the beach in Saky or Yevpatoria, where you can rough it with no aircon, no hot water, etc., but plenty of hot bikini clad college gals and their beer drinking boyfriends hanging around.

Fucking paradise!

Not too sure myself what the better option is, hour and a half on a vintage Yak (or Tupolev if your lucky) or 16 hours on the choo choo, but in all seriousness to get the flight you want between kiev and Simferopol you need to book many weeks in advance this time of the year and the price is getting beyond a joke for late availability if available (at kbp)???

Bez Bezarra
07-19-07, 06:13
The train? Are ya serious?
Well, I guess. I mean if ya did get a first class sleeper, AND had a cute dyevochka for a bunk mate, that could help pass the time, since the scenery out the window is the worlds most boring.

Don't worry about the plane, its at LEAST 50/50 odds that you WONT crash. Anyway its more exciting than the train, especially when you see the two guys at Juliany airport, (no, not boryispol, my flight was from JUL), who load the luggage, swigging straight vodka at 7 a.m. for their liquid breakfast. Then you start wondering that those 2 are also the engine mechanics for your Yak.

The only thing better was our pilot taking a sharp right hand turn and almost flipping over about 30 seconds after takeoff. After realizing that we were not going to die, we passengers concluded the most plausible explanation was that the pilot must have accidentally knocked over his beer, and naturally he let go of the steering to pick it up before too much of his breakfast spilled.

Have a nice flight.

Sevastopol1
07-20-07, 08:35
The train? Are ya serious?
Well, I guess. I mean if ya did get a first class sleeper, AND had a cute dyevochka for a bunk mate, that could help pass the time, since the scenery out the window is the worlds most boring.

Don't worry about the plane, its at LEAST 50/50 odds that you WONT crash. Anyway its more exciting than the train, especially when you see the two guys at Juliany airport, (no, not boryispol, my flight was from JUL), who load the luggage, swigging straight vodka at 7 a.m. for their liquid breakfast. Then you start wondering that those 2 are also the engine mechanics for your Yak.

The only thing better was our pilot taking a sharp right hand turn and almost flipping over about 30 seconds after takeoff. After realizing that we were not going to die, we passengers concluded the most plausible explanation was that the pilot must have accidentally knocked over his beer, and naturally he let go of the steering to pick it up before too much of his breakfast spilled.

Have a nice flight.

You obviously haven't been on the train from West Australia To Adelaide? 2 days of fuck all!!!!

Bez Bezarra
07-20-07, 14:00
Ok, sorry!

It Travel
07-20-07, 14:33
Looks like I will finally be getting to the Ukraine. I am going to be flying into Odessa around August 20 and staying a few days there before flying to Kiev for a few days. I would love to meet up for some drinks and clubs. I am interested in going to RP and finding the MT. What can I say the pictures and stories intrigued me. I don't know much about either city, but I am reading the forums and travel books to get a feel for the places.

Thanks

PIT


If you nail somebody (specially the MT) dont forget to inform us here... mind that nowdays the girl (MT) is often nearly drunk... but it can be funny...

IT

It Travel
07-20-07, 14:57
I often use train in formar CIS, it allows you to save a lot of time... not going to far located airports and beeing there 2/3 hours before! Than all these taxis :(

I even use it between Moscow and Kiev...

For your use you can try the daily from Kiev at 20.21 and arriving at 11.01 at Sfimeropol. Should be two or three first class wagons near the resaturant... You have even one a little bit later at 23.05... (no changes on both) I do not know the price, but forst class, I suppose, would go around 130-160 USD.

Do not go there before 19.30... and make sure that you have the return ticket! If you find difficult to get the return or the ticket at all go to a big agency, or even better to a big Russian one :)

If you take a cute dyevochka with you you have all the time to nail her, go to restaurant, nail her again, go to the bar, nail her in the night, sleep, get a good BBBJ, nail her again, get brakfatst and nail her in the station before you get down...

I think you will find the trip to short!

The best would be getting a second class kupé with four beds... and three cute dyevochkas! :D

IT

On the timetable I was not joking...

Gentleman Travel
07-20-07, 17:55
If you take a cute dyevochka with you you have all the time to nail her, go to restaurant, nail her again, go to the bar, nail her in the night, sleep, get a good BBBJ, nail her again, get brakfatst and nail her in the station before you get down...

I think you will find the trip to short!
This is my idea of travelling in style!
First Class berth with a bedmate.
They should offer it as an all-inclusive ticketing option!

Seriously, not too practical if you are going to another city to monger, because then you are tied to this one girl. But if you want to take your Kyiv cutie to the sea/Odessa, or if you meet a girl in a smaller city, it can be a good way to bring her to the capital for a treat (for both of you!)

Excess
07-20-07, 19:25
IT, any tips and tricks on special anal techniques while bouncing around on the rails? ;-))



If you take a cute dyevochka with you you have all the time to nail her, go to restaurant, nail her again, go to the bar, nail her in the night, sleep, get a good BBBJ, nail her again, get brakfatst and nail her in the station before you get down...

I think you will find the trip to short!

The best would be getting a second class kupé with four beds... and three cute dyevochkas! :D

IT

On the timetable I was not joking...

PassinThrough
07-20-07, 19:30
You obviously haven't been on the train from West Australia To Adelaide? 2 days of fuck all!!!!


You got off just before it got good, the Adelaide to Sydney was the best part. Of course I use that term loosly as I was traveling in coach in a seat and not a sleeper... ouch

As for MT, I would like to find someone to meet up with in Kiev to go for a drink and to RP and any other places with, any takers?

PIT

Sevastopol1
07-24-07, 22:34
You got off just before it got good, the Adelaide to Sydney was the best part. Of course I use that term loosly as I was traveling in coach in a seat and not a sleeper... ouch

As for MT, I would like to find someone to meet up with in Kiev to go for a drink and to RP and any other places with, any takers?

PIT
The most memorable trip was (sorry guys) 1980 Kalgoorie to Perth with the kalgoorie ladies basketball team (sorry moght have been netball), trust me this was a night to remember. Drinking and debauchery, sorry no pics in those days!

BayView
08-20-07, 02:50
I'll be in Odessa on Saturday August 25th and I'll be there about a week. PM me if you want to meet up.

PassinThrough
09-03-07, 14:12
Hello,

I am heading over to Kiev on Thursday of this week, if anyone is interested in meeting up for drinks and some visitation to some of the clubs this weekend drop me a note and we can meet up. I don't have a Ukraine SIM card yet but I plan to get one as soon as I arrive.

PIT

Medor
09-10-07, 12:57
Anyone intend to spend or will be there for the new year in Kiev?

Telos
09-19-07, 03:42
Anyone intend to spend or will be there for the new year in Kiev?I will be in Kiev for New Years.

Medor
09-28-07, 03:47
Hey Telos,

I am organizing a new year party in Kiev with my buddies. We are 4 partygoers flying from the US and EU. We'll rent a 4 bedrooms condo in the center and will hunt, in the order of success, the freebies, semi-pros and pros. Private message me and we could hook up for drinks and achieve some teamwork for the new year.

Reiner Otto
10-01-07, 22:13
Hi,

I will be in Nikolaev from 6-October, for about 3-4 weeks.

Not the first time for me.

Anybody else there to share a beer in "Felicitas" ?

Sharalumi
10-09-07, 07:42
Will be visiting Kiev briefly on Thursday staying in the centre. Form what I understand Arena seems to be the current best place wher I can choose some young lady for the evening. Anyone care to meet up on Thursday?

Cruiser D
10-09-07, 18:57
The best place is River Palace. Not everyone is working at Arena at River Palace it's 99%

Street Sleuth
10-09-07, 22:13
Will be visiting Kiev briefly on Thursday staying in the centre. Form what I understand Arena seems to be the current best place wher I can choose some young lady for the evening. Anyone care to meet up on Thursday?

I may be heading out of town for a few days on Thursday, but maybe not till Friday - not certain yet. If I'm in town, no problem meeting up.

CD is right - for a sure thing, River Palace is the place to go. Lots of hot, young girls - virtually all working. But prices aren't cheap - expect to pay minimum $150/hour, $300/night - and those are on the low end. Girls generally ask $300/hour, $500/night....and not all will negotiate lower.

PM me and I'll send you my contact info...

Cruiser D
10-09-07, 23:10
Street, it was my experience hot girls were asking $150/hr or $250-300 for the night. But of course the night being a subjective term. How much of the night is left at 2-3am...$500, insane - I think thats the girl's way of facing you.

If you are new to Kiev and only there for a short time River Palace is your only sure bet. If you want to spend $300 and can't get laid there its time to do some soul searching.

As I mentioned in past posts, when I first started going to RP you could see happy couples leaving all the time - any girl in the club $100-150, every once in a while you woud get a princess holding out for $200. Once again I noticed there were very few people actually closing the deal. I think RP is more of a lifestyle now for the girls and guys. A lot of the hot girls will have a sugar daddy, a local bf and doing the club p4p circuit. Very few semi pro's now it would seem, clubs like 112 are a slightly better place to find them.

Johnfits
10-10-07, 08:03
Hello fellows,

I will be in Kiev from 14 oktober on. Possibly a week. Depends on the scene. Was there before couple of times and know places like River Palace.

Would be nice having a drink and go for the hunt with someone who reads this forum. By the way: I am from Holland. Greetings.

Street Sleuth
10-10-07, 08:29
Street, it was my experience hot girls were asking $150/hr or $250-300 for the night. But of course the night being a subjective term. How much of the night is left at 2-3am...$500, insane - I think thats the girl's way of facing you.Cd, to be fair, I didn't actually negotiate prcing with many girls. My numbers are based on just a couple (though I chatted with many more). My numbers are based more on discussions with other guys who were there, who hit the place more often. I wasn't really looking to take a girl from there. As you know, if you're around Kiev enough, and speak Russian, there are girls, just as hot, for much more reasonable pricing. And much better attitudes to boot.

That said. With the girls I did talk to. It did seem some were strictly part-timers. They have normal jobs but claim, anyway, to hit RP only sparingly, to supplement their meager salaries. But then again, just by the looks of it, most of the girls there are hard core regulars.

Doctor_Skank
10-10-07, 08:57
Street, it was my experience hot girls were asking $150/hr or $250-300 for the night. But of course the night being a subjective term. How much of the night is left at 2-3am...$500, insane - I think thats the girl's way of facing you.

If you are new to Kiev and only there for a short time River Palace is your only sure bet. If you want to spend $300 and can't get laid there its time to do some soul searching.

As I mentioned in past posts, when I first started going to RP you could see happy couples leaving all the time - any girl in the club $100-150, every once in a while you woud get a princess holding out for $200. Once again I noticed there were very few people actually closing the deal. I think RP is more of a lifestyle now for the girls and guys. A lot of the hot girls will have a sugar daddy, a local bf and doing the club p4p circuit. Very few semi pro's now it would seem, clubs like 112 are a slightly better place to find them.
Cruiser,

You may be on to something. I am not a RP regular, but one vibe I often did get was that some girls really didn't seem to care if they got chosen or not. There was no "desperation" or "need" to score a night's work. This is of course bad for the monger.

Maybe some girls there simply don't need the money and instead of hanging out in a bar or cafe somewhere paying their own drinks or lounging around at home watching Fabrika on TV, they'd rather have some swarthy guys slobber all over them buying them overpriced cocktails.

In any case, you are right in your advice that unless you use the internet sites or go to a salon (which isn't easy for non-Russian speakers to navigate) your best bet is really River Palace.

I think for a newbie to realistically plan, he should expect to pay 30 Grv taxi there and 50 Grv back and about $60 at the club on drinks etc. + about $300 for the girl, who will stay about 4 hours. Of course everything can be less if the monger is clever, but since when is the newbie monger clever?

Street Sleuth
10-10-07, 10:12
Oh yes, forgot to mention the most fun part about RP, but Dr. Skank picked up the slack...."getting there and away".

Getting There: Its not near any public transport, but any cabbie will know how to get there. From center, shouldn't be more than 30 grivens, as Dr. Skank points out. Firm negotiating and/or stopping a beater cab can get the job done for 20 to 25.

Getting Home: There are always cabs sitting out front. They collude. 50 Grivens, minimum. If you speak no Russian, I suspect they may even try to hit you up for more. Solution: Get the phone number of the cab that brought you there - call him when you are ready to leave - he'll come pick you up (that's if he's still awake at 3 am....).

The most fun is negotiating with all the cabs out front, going from one to another, listening to them insist on 50 grivens. Once you've haggled with the last cab, they figure they've got you. But wait! You've already called your cab to come pick you up! And here he is!

Doctor_Skank
10-10-07, 10:50
Solution: Get the phone number of the cab that brought you there - call him when you are ready to leave - he'll come pick you up (that's if he's still awake at 3 am....).

Often the girls will have a favorite cabby they can call as well and you can agree on a price with her.

It Travel
10-10-07, 12:20
Oh yes, forgot to mention the most fun part about RP, but Dr. Skank picked up the slack...."getting there and away".

Getting There: Its not near any public transport, but any cabbie will know how to get there. From center, shouldn't be more than 30 grivens, as Dr. Skank points out. Firm negotiating and/or stopping a beater cab can get the job done for 20 to 25.

Getting Home: There are always cabs sitting out front. They collude. 50 Grivens, minimum. If you speak no Russian, I suspect they may even try to hit you up for more. Solution: Get the phone number of the cab that brought you there - call him when you are ready to leave - he'll come pick you up (that's if he's still awake at 3 am....).

The most fun is negotiating with all the cabs out front, going from one to another, listening to them insist on 50 grivens. Once you've haggled with the last cab, they figure they've got you. But wait! You've already called your cab to come pick you up! And here he is!


Some taxi cabs are even asking for 100 grivnas... and then go down to 50...
In getting there might that you have the Dnipro Metro station, just on the bridge, but then you have to cross the road along the river a little trick, just 100 meters but dangerous, and then there is no mentro in the night!

IT

Cruiser D
10-10-07, 12:50
Yeah, RP isn't near any public transportation unless you count the Dnipro metro station across the street. :) Anyone know if any short buses run to RP? I bet you could make a fortune charging 10uah pp from Bessarabska and Maydan running on the hour - of course you'd be found floating in the Dnipro about a week later when the taxi mafia catches up to you.

The good Doctor is right 30uah to RP and 50uah from RP is current normal pricing. If you are a taxi king such as myself you can easily get 20 and 30. I went to RP three times last trip, my druges pay for the taxi there - it's never my idea to go to RP and I paid for it back - 30uah - one girl had a car and 50uah (A Kiev newbie from ISG wanted to get home ASAP with his date). Me no speaka the Russki, but I do know how to walk to the curb and find a cheaper cab. I've had drivers actually quote me 100uah or more - 100uah is the current taxi service rate to go to Borispol, which I pointed out to them. They counted with RP is a high class club. I counted with, while laughing no RP is not. Arena, Decadance, Tsar are, RP is so so club.

I am fairly sure on my pricing of the girls Street. I hang with a group of sexpats who the staff at RP know by name. When a girl says $300/hr or $500/night she is really saying, no I really don't want to fuck you (for whatever reason) but if you are stupid enough to pay that I'll spread my legs for you - can you feel the love? :)

Dr, it's been my experience that only newer pro's have a favorite cabbie. I picked up a semi pro gem at 112 last winter - or I should say she picked me up. She was on me within 15 minutes of me being in 112. She was fantastic ($100) and had a cabbie she used to use all the time. This trip she had put on a kilo or two (too much club food and drinks), didn't do BBBJCIM with me anymore but she still liked to get sprayed. She wanted to leave after 90 minutes - it was late/early around 5-6ish and keep hitting me up for more money over the $100 - I gave her 30uah for a taxi. She sms'ed me a few times after that to meet. I alway replied with sure, if you want to have sex for free. Oh yeah my point, not only had she lost any shred of innocence she had but she had also ditched her 'favorite' taxi driver. Who she (they) might be paying to hang around outside in case anything happens. Kiev girls are a lot of things but stupid genereally isn't one of them, greedy (the proper usage of the term, not the stupid Russian bimbo use of the term when they mean to say 'cheap', of course the ironic part being they are the ones generally being greedy) generally is. :)

Street Sleuth
10-10-07, 18:37
metro to rp - not worth bothering, as cabs can be grabbed relatively cheaply in the center, and i'm not into shooting across ukrainian high-speed traffic, if i can avoid it.

metro from rp - not open.

cd - yes, i get it. you are amazing, and the rest of us are worthless. it comes through in your posts often enough. in fact, when you go outside, you snap your fingers, and a harem of women drop to their knees, "please, cd, please can we smoke your johnson....". when cabs stop for you, they say, "normally, i'd charge you 30 griven, but because you are so hot, you make me gay, so i'll only charge 20."

Street Sleuth
10-10-07, 18:44
CD,

Looks like you were wrong about the Mark D guy. He went and posted a list of all kinds of sites....some of which I could vouge for.

Are you going to apologize to him, or are you just going to continue to try and run every new poster off the boards, so you can keep your tight little junior-high-school girl clique?

Cruiser D
10-10-07, 20:25
Actually Street what makes it all the more worse is you speak Russian and I don't. I usually start a conversation with privet dyevushka! kak dela? and then follow it up with a quick, I hope you speak English because that is all the Russian I know -it's quite the ice breaker, but once again I'll give most of the credit to my tie. My luck with the ladies in Kiev and sometime unluck with them has been noted by many ISG members in person, I don't have anything to prove. Sometimes I do get into a war of words online but that is generally due to someone misrepresenting or misinforming. Things like - there is no public transportation to RP - when there is indeed a metro station 100m across the street, at an intersection where there is quite a few traffic lights.

Traffic in Kiev has gotten so bad it usually better to take the metro during peak hours and at least get out of the ring of traffic before catching a cab. Would I take the metro instead of a cab to go to RP, no. RP is never a first choice of mine but I can be easily talked into it because I always have fun there. I can't remember the last RP girl I took home - maybe just before Eurovision in 05. The only thing sadder then waiting for the 5am bargin at RP is waiting for the metro to open at 6am. :)

Bottom line is your assement of RP is flawed. It may be what you personally experienced. What I base my experience on is my own - 9 trips to Kiev averaging about 5 weeks per trip. And the experience of some sexpat buddies who live in Kiev at least half the year and are heavy vistors to RP - I wonder if there is a RP anonmous group. :).

As far as Mark D making two brief posting saying how great this one website is and two girls in particular I'll stay with my first impression that he is a shill. There are some user here who information rings true and I have told many to turn to for advice - Dr S, Uke Boy, Irish Lad, 109 - all of whom I hope to see again this winter. Am I an expert on Kiev? I think so, and so do the people who ask me for directions in Russian during the weekend. ;)

Uke Boy
10-10-07, 21:03
Sleuth,

Like Cruiser, I make no apologies about my comments to Mark D's posts. Why? Very simple.

There have been many posts by actual shills for the agencies here who started off exactly as Mark D did. They were rightly attacked and they also defended their postings but they were shills and employees of those agencies. Do we need them here? No.

Also, Mark D's list of sites can fully be found in many posts in this forum. He gives us nothing new except a list that you may not have to search through more than a few posts to compile. In fact, I can add a few more but it would be senseless since it would be the same girls and the same fake photos.

As for RP, I have not been there in years. No need.

As a fluent Russian speaker there are literally millions of ladies out there who speak no English and who are available, all ages sizes and types. I have had many misses but the hits have also been more than I can even handle at times. And almost always it has been in local places and at local events. And this, Cruiser, as you know, is someone in the 50+ category and hirsute challenged! Yet my success rate would make many much younger men jealous to no end.

Bez Bezarra
10-11-07, 05:43
You heard it, straight from the horse's mouth!

UB knows what he's talking about.

I vouch for him.

Bez just can't pa ruski to read and write or figure out what anyone is saying on the phone, so its not as easy for the Bez, but they understand me enough to keep me coming back for more. Bez gets by.

Cruiser D
10-11-07, 10:06
Bez, I would have added you to my list of people that have a clue in the FSU but I never met you. And someone from the KGB is spreading nasty rumours you don't even exsist. :)

Bez Bezarra
10-11-07, 11:27
Bez, someone from the KGB is spreading nasty rumours you don't even exsist.



Its a nasty business, but I fear the rumours are entirely true, perpetuating fabrications is the only possible lifestyle choice for the totalitarian proletariat of myth mongers that I founded during the aftermath of the Cold War.

Street Sleuth
10-11-07, 13:04
CD,

I'm not questioning the veracity of your information on RP - my original response, explaining how/where I based my information - was to suggest I don't have terribly reliable information, having only recieved pricing from 2 girls, and anecdotes from other guys there.

For what its worth, the pricing I got from one girl was in line with your information (even a little less), but she is in the same business (when she's not working RP) as me, and was probably hoping for some business from me (other than night-time), so I didn't consider the pricing reliable.

I don't remember what the pricing of the second girl was, I wasn't terribly interested in her, and I have wandering eyes.

For someone who speaks Russian, as you point out, the girls from the various sites are a much better deal. Not all the photos are fake - namely, the ones where face is not shown tend to be real. However, most of these girls, in my experience, don't speak English - which is probably why you won't find them at RP, and their prices are more reasonable.

I too just go to RP, on occasion, because I like the place overall. One bartender even remembered me - I had only been there once before, over 6 months ago. Probably because I spent the whole night hitting on the one girl that isn't available for take-home...

Street Sleuth
10-11-07, 13:08
Uke,

I agree, for anyone who can at least get by in Russian, there are infinitely better places than RP, Arena, etc. I'm just finding them, as I haven't been in Kiev long......For me, I even have to avoid the most central places, as my Russian is so-so, and any girl that speaks English immediately busts into English with me (which drives me nuts.....I wouldn't go busting into Russian if I met a Russian in the U.S., and I do meet plenty of Russians, with poor English speaking skills, in the U.S.).

Street Sleuth
10-11-07, 13:12
CD,

I'm trying (though failing miserably) to remain cordial, but I just don't like the way that any new poster is immediately berated. I don't see the point. Yes, I get it, you know a lot more about Kiev than most posters, other than your clique - but if you succeed in driving every newbie away, what will be the point of this thread? - if you really wanted, the 5 or 6 of you could start your own private chatroom on Yahoo/ICQ/whatever.

Personally, I like to read the experiences of new guys, even if they don't have in depth knowledge of the lay of the land....

Dallim93
10-11-07, 17:22
I am from California. I have a choice of taking a trip to Prague or kiev for 4 or 5 days. I have been to Prague 3 times in the last two years, so I am familiar with the seen there, I have not been to Kiev. I dont speak Czech or Russian.

my budget is about $500-$600 per day on pussy.

I am hoping some of you will help me choose between the two cities! in your oponion which is better for Mongering?

Thank you

Sponsor74
10-11-07, 19:43
[QUOTE=Dallim93]I am from California. I have a choice of taking a trip to Prague or kiev for 4 or 5 days. I have been to Prague 3 times in the last two years, so I am familiar with the seen there, I have not been to Kiev. I dont speak Czech or Russian.

my budget is about $500-$600 per day on pussy.

I am hoping some of you will help me choose between the two cities! in your oponion which is better for Mongering?

Thank you[

According to my experiences, Prague hotels are more expensive as outside from the capital city. Try Plzen or Brno (100 or 150 km from Prague) and the hotels are less expensive; however don’t expect Western Europe quality. Pussies are god here but getting more expensive every day; English is more available than other Eastern Europe cities. Restaurant not for me but for beer could be OK.

Kiev is for me excellent with all these nice girls BUT the English language is a big problem. Hotels or much better apartments are very expensive and difficult to get one or a serious agency (in this matter I am still waiting for the help of some experts here in this forum). Food much better than in Prague and Vodka is also ok.

Hope this help you

Evilz632
10-11-07, 20:24
I would say that if money and the language barrier aren't an issue, try Kiev, but if they are, try Czech Republic, you will find more people readily speak your language. The girls of Ukraine and Czech are comparable as far as looks are concerned, though IMHO, Ukrainian girls tend to have slightly more refined features. But Czech Rep doesn't really lag behind. Quantity wise they are also pretty much on par. But by your post I see you already know Prague. So if you want to try something new, give Kiev a try. The women are beautiful, there are great restaurants, and culturally speaking ( though I highly doubt you are coming for the culture ) Kiev is one of the richest and oldest cities in all of Europe, going on almost 200 years old now ) But EVERYTHING is mad expensive.

PS, I am half Ukrainian and have lived in Kiev on and off half of my life.

Evil Z


I am from California. I have a choice of taking a trip to Prague or kiev for 4 or 5 days. I have been to Prague 3 times in the last two years, so I am familiar with the seen there, I have not been to Kiev. I dont speak Czech or Russian.

my budget is about $500-$600 per day on pussy.

I am hoping some of you will help me choose between the two cities! in your oponion which is better for Mongering?

Thank you

Street Sleuth
10-12-07, 09:34
I am from California. I have a choice of taking a trip to Prague or kiev for 4 or 5 days. I have been to Prague 3 times in the last two years, so I am familiar with the seen there, I have not been to Kiev. I dont speak Czech or Russian.

my budget is about $500-$600 per day on pussy.

I am hoping some of you will help me choose between the two cities! in your oponion which is better for Mongering?

Thank you

Dallim,

Given you have already been to Prague, and haven't been to Kiev, on those grounds alone, I'd suggest giving Kiev a chance - just for the experience.

Beyond that, I like Kiev better. Prague is a beautiful city, but it is over-run with tourists. As such, the non-pro girls, to the extent you can even find them, want to have nothing to do with foreigners. Kiev isn't nearly as touristy. In 4 or 5 days, it would be quite difficult to land a non-pro, but you would at least get to try :).

As for the pro scene in Kiev, it is a little tricker, given the level of English is much less. Kiev is a larger city than Prague, with much less tourism - the result being that the pro-scene mainly caters to locals, not foreigners. That said, with some advance research, you can ensure a good time.

With your budget, you can always fall back on River Palace. It is the one surefire spot to find young, hot, English speaking girls for take home. Pricing has been discussed elsewhere, but it is within your budget.

If you do come to Kiev - go the apartment route. They are a much better deal, and you'll have less dificulties with bringing girls back.

I can't say that I know of any good agency for short-term rentals - I had problems myself finding something :(. I know a couple agents, but not sure they even speak English, I'll ask...

Sean EZ
10-14-07, 03:22
Hello I'll be in Kiev 3rd week in Nov, I am 33, I speak the language, if you want to get a couple of cold ones PM me and tell me little about yourself. peace.

BluesCubaJude
10-20-07, 06:55
Hello to all!

Planning a mongering trip for 35 days. I will start in Odessa, Ukraine from the 15Dec2007 for 10 days then to Thailand for 10 days then to Rio de Janiero for 10 days. Anybody interested to having discussions of possibilities and have cold ones in Odessa PM me for details.

Ricky Zapatero
10-21-07, 20:47
Am planning trip to Kiev end of Nov to early dec. Anybody there during this time? I have been to Kiev before and know some good places to meet freebies as well. Write me or PM me.

Ricky Zapatero
10-21-07, 20:56
Hi everyone,

Plannig a trip to Kiev end of Nov to early Dec. Anyone there during this time? Let's meet up for a drink. I was there a couple of times before and know of good places for quality freebies as well.

SlutLover
10-22-07, 12:39
Gentlemen,

I am in Lvov till Wednesday and then in Lugansk, probably until Nov 6. If you happen to be around please send me a private message.

Kiev1
10-23-07, 19:35
Hi!

I will be in Kiev from 8th November until 8th of December.This will be my fourth trip anyone want to meet up just send me private message.

Lllyxer
10-27-07, 06:41
Hey guys,

I'll be in Kiev in November in the middle of the week is there any nice places I can go on Wednesday/Thursday night, what's your recommendations?

Anybody can share some bird’ #'s or places to call?

Thanks boys.

Delgado
10-27-07, 12:04
Hey guys,

I'll be in Kiev in November in the middle of the week is there any nice places I can go on Wednesday/Thursday night, what's your recommendations?

Anybody can share some bird’ #'s or places to call?

Thanks boys.

I suggest shooters, moskovskaya 22
(http://www.shooters.kiev.ua/eng/index.php)
or caribbean, komminterna 4
(http://www.kiev.info/entertainment/caribbean.htm)

There is a new club called "barsky" not far from club 112 at arena center, take the elevator to the 7. floor. When i was there 2 weeks ago they were open on thursday. I had a look through the door at 112, looks like the place is being reconstructed.
Needless to say river palace is also open every day...

Cruiser D
10-27-07, 13:08
Hey Delgado, how is Barsky?

Hedonist
10-27-07, 14:35
Barsky is the new hippest place and on par with Tsar's Project. Lots events are taking place there. Last week there was an International Party for instance. However, the layout is better than Tsar for pick-ups. You can meet somebody in the tiny dance floor or at the bar and then take her to the balcony for some intimate conversations. Also, for "good" clients they serve more than alcohol in the backroom, if you know what I mean :)

Delgado
10-28-07, 13:17
Cruiser, we only had a short visit to barsky, few guests, but we were early, and then it was hip-hop night so we decided to move on. It´s a small but nicely designed club. I´m surprised to hear it´s on the same level as tsar, guess I´ll have to revisit barsky during the weekend when I´m back in kiev.

Cruiser D
10-28-07, 13:49
Oh, another older guy - younger girl ho bar in Kiev, how exclusive. :) I guess you really can't expect anything else in Mandarin Plaza - although Orangeia wasn't that bad.

Sounds like a nice layout. I'll be sure to check it out the next time I am in Kiev. What's the cover 150uah? And how do you get up there? Is the entrance over by 112?

AColonizer
10-28-07, 14:49
Hi guys,

I will be in kiev from 10 November to 17 November.

Who wants to drink something at River Palace? Or to have a look at Patipa? Or to do something strange in my apartment in Baseyna street? Or a romantic dinner with some girls?

Please, write a private message or phone me.

Thank you forumers for your information.

Delgado
10-28-07, 15:47
No cover on thursday, don´t know what they charge during weekends.
The entrance is very close to the stairs that lead down to 112. Through a glas door on ground level and right into the elevator up to 7. floor

Ricky Zapatero
11-03-07, 19:54
Anyone planning to be in Kiev between 30 novermber and 3 December?

Let's meet up for a beer and tour of the hunting grounds.

PM me.

Explorer69
11-04-07, 00:41
I will be in Kiev Nov 23-27, and alsom probably for some days in the first half of December. Anybody else?

It Travel
11-07-07, 08:30
I will be in Kiev Nov 23-27, and alsom probably for some days in the first half of December. Anybody else?

I'll be there approx DEC 6-13 so...

we will se... ;)

IT

SlutLover
11-13-07, 13:59
A lot of girls from other cities who are in Kiev for a few days to party go to River Palace for one night or two to get some extra money. I believe the thinking goes: if I find him attractive anyway, I might as well earn some bucks fucking him - and if I don't, he'd better show me the big money...
For example, I scored a Donetsk girl in Shooters one evening (for free, she was just a 6 but insatiable) who subsequently explained to me that she was sharing a rented apartment with two friends (at $60/day), and that they would go to River Palace when they would run out of money... just that two days before, two of the girls went there and got so drunk that instead of finding a client, one of them passed out on the pavement and had to be dragged home by the other girl, who could hardly stand herself. :)
She also confirms that her friend, who was there more often and probably qualifies as an 8, regularly made $500 there. That very same friend also went with a 35-year-old Italian for free that night.
I guess this only goes to show that for many of these girls, the boundaries between making money and having fun are, indeed, quite fluid. Not the politically correct tale that one hears on American TV. BTW, they knew I'd be gone in two days, and the Italian a day after that.


Cruiser,

You may be on to something. I am not a RP regular, but one vibe I often did get was that some girls really didn't seem to care if they got chosen or not. There was no "desperation" or "need" to score a night's work. This is of course bad for the monger.

Maybe some girls there simply don't need the money and instead of hanging out in a bar or cafe somewhere paying their own drinks or lounging around at home watching Fabrika on TV, they'd rather have some swarthy guys slobber all over them buying them overpriced cocktails.

In any case, you are right in your advice that unless you use the internet sites or go to a salon (which isn't easy for non-Russian speakers to navigate) your best bet is really River Palace.

I think for a newbie to realistically plan, he should expect to pay 30 Grv taxi there and 50 Grv back and about $60 at the club on drinks etc. + about $300 for the girl, who will stay about 4 hours. Of course everything can be less if the monger is clever, but since when is the newbie monger clever?

Hecker
11-13-07, 19:34
I have been only once in River Palace because the quality of the girls there was the same that can easily be seen on the streets. There were no super models like the ukrainian girls who are gathered in metro stations and central places. However I noticed that prices in RP can be negotiated and are related to the appearance of the client. Girls may easily lower prices if the client is good looking. Also another common thing in Ukraine girls judge you by the response of other girls to you. If they see that you try to get lower price by getting from girl to girl and negotiate, they will strictly keep to the 300$ fixed rule. Because they do not want you to have any advantage. That is why girls and taxi drivers are so often gathered together in a single place. They want to watch all the possible customers as not to give them the chance to lower the prices by negotiating and discovering the possibilities.

So if you want to hit on a girl in RP you should first buy for her a drink in a way that the other girls see it and realize that you are generous gentleman.

Then when you negotiate the price with her, make sure that the other girls do not see it. Moreover do not let her go and inform the other girls or try to move as quickly as possible to cause confusion. The girls tehre are friends (some are enemies) and will try to exchange information between each other.

This is what I can think in order to get a lower price. Of course in this game the slavic girl has always the upper hand because she understands better your psychology than you understand hers.

As for me after buying a drink to a girls that resembled very much the first freebie I had gotten in Kiev, I asked her about how much it cost. 300$ seemed to me a big amoun of money. With 200$ I had three students for half a day doing everything and I mean everything. I suppose RP girls are more proffesional. So I asked her if a friend of her could join for 300$ for both, that is 150$ for each girl. She agreed and introduced me a beautiful blonde about 21-23 years old who smiled etc. Then I told her that 2 girls are very few and I would like 3 girls together with 300$, that is 100$ for each girl for 2 hours. This seemed to me reasonable price. She refused. I bought her one more drink but she kept refusing. She agreed on two girls for 300$ but not for 3 girls for the same price. So I moved to other girls who of course had realized what had happened and now each one wanted 300$ for herself only without negotiating. I found it ridiculous and got away. In internet I have found a very good looking girl who does everything for 200$ per night and she has about 50 acquaintances who she can bring for the same price. She does everything agreeing even in licking ass, getting pissed etc. Her girlfriend who lives together with her (180 cm tall) does the same for 200$.

The three students I had have agreed on even heavier stuff for 300$ for all during all night long.

So for me RP is overpriced.

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Sean EZ
11-14-07, 01:46
Reminds of me of Cartagena, Colombia :)


A lot of girls from other cities who are in Kiev for a few days to party go to River Palace for one night or two to get some extra money. I believe the thinking goes: if I find him attractive anyway, I might as well earn some bucks fucking him - and if I don't, he'd better show me the big money...
For example, I scored a Donetsk girl in Shooters one evening (for free, she was just a 6 but insatiable) who subsequently explained to me that she was sharing a rented apartment with two friends (at $60/day), and that they would go to River Palace when they would run out of money... just that two days before, two of the girls went there and got so drunk that instead of finding a client, one of them passed out on the pavement and had to be dragged home by the other girl, who could hardly stand herself. :)
She also confirms that her friend, who was there more often and probably qualifies as an 8, regularly made $500 there. That very same friend also went with a 35-year-old Italian for free that night.
I guess this only goes to show that for many of these girls, the boundaries between making money and having fun are, indeed, quite fluid. Not the politically correct tale that one hears on American TV. BTW, they knew I'd be gone in two days, and the Italian a day after that.

Reiner Otto
11-16-07, 23:04
Hi,

I will be in Nikolaev and Odessa since 5-December until beginning of January.

Anybody there during that time to share expirience?

AColonizer
11-17-07, 13:01
I will be in Kiev between 24 November and 1 December 2007. I would like to organize something in group. Who wants to partecipate in my parties? Please, write a private message to me.

AColonizer
11-17-07, 13:06
Hecker, you are my master!

Kiev1
11-18-07, 19:36
Hi!

I don't post that much on this forum, but I'm always reading everything that you guys write. At the moment I have been in Kiev for one week, I still have 3 to go. So it would be good to link up with some of you guys who are coming out here. In one week alone I have seen some scammers at work in the arena shopping arcade, girls who have ripped off american guys who I know and of course have mixed it with some of the ex pats who go pussy hunting. Great fun but you sure have to be on your toes in this city. Some of you guys may know an italian called Max who runs massage parlour, english guy named Paul who has lived here for about 5 years and will help any guy out who has problems whilst you are here. Some american guys who I have got to know some looking for p4p, others for serious relations, some have been scammed by the girls, but it beats sitting at home in front of a fire watching tv as this is real drama unfolding before your very eyes.

If anybody wants to meet up while you are here then PM me please.

Marcuz Allen
11-18-07, 20:24
I have been only once in River Palace because the quality of the girls there was the same that can easily be seen on the streets. There were no super models like the ukrainian girls who are gathered in metro stations and central places. However I noticed that prices in RP can be negotiated and are related to the appearance of the client. Girls may easily lower prices if the client is good looking. Also another common thing in Ukraine girls judge you by the response of other girls to you. If they see that you try to get lower price by getting from girl to girl and negotiate, they will strictly keep to the 300$ fixed rule. Because they do not want you to have any advantage. That is why girls and taxi drivers are so often gathered together in a single place. They want to watch all the possible customers as not to give them the chance to lower the prices by negotiating and discovering the possibilities.

So if you want to hit on a girl in RP you should first buy for her a drink in a way that the other girls see it and realize that you are generous gentleman.

Then when you negotiate the price with her, make sure that the other girls do not see it. Moreover do not let her go and inform the other girls or try to move as quickly as possible to cause confusion. The girls tehre are friends (some are enemies) and will try to exchange information between each other.

This is what I can think in order to get a lower price. Of course in this game the slavic girl has always the upper hand because she understands better your psychology than you understand hers.

As for me after buying a drink to a girls that resembled very much the first freebie I had gotten in Kiev, I asked her about how much it cost. 300$ seemed to me a big amoun of money. With 200$ I had three students for half a day doing everything and I mean everything. I suppose RP girls are more proffesional. So I asked her if a friend of her could join for 300$ for both, that is 150$ for each girl. She agreed and introduced me a beautiful blonde about 21-23 years old who smiled etc. Then I told her that 2 girls are very few and I would like 3 girls together with 300$, that is 100$ for each girl for 2 hours. This seemed to me reasonable price. She refused. I bought her one more drink but she kept refusing. She agreed on two girls for 300$ but not for 3 girls for the same price. So I moved to other girls who of course had realized what had happened and now each one wanted 300$ for herself only without negotiating. I found it ridiculous and got away. In internet I have found a very good looking girl who does everything for 200$ per night and she has about 50 acquaintances who she can bring for the same price. She does everything agreeing even in licking ass, getting pissed etc. Her girlfriend who lives together with her (180 cm tall) does the same for 200$.

The three students I had have agreed on even heavier stuff for 300$ for all during all night long.

So for me RP is overpriced.Can you give me some information about where to find this interesting student girls? I will be in kiev at the end of the months.

Explorer69
11-19-07, 01:36
With 200$ I had three students for half a day doing everything and I mean everything.

In internet I have found a very good looking girl who does everything for 200$ per night and she has about 50 acquaintances who she can bring for the same price. She does everything agreeing even in licking ass, getting pissed etc. Her girlfriend who lives together with her (180 cm tall) does the same for 200$.

Hi,

Any contact information for any of these? Sounds like great possibilities! I will be in Kiev Nov 23-27. Maybe you are there as well?

Cruiser D
11-20-07, 00:41
Yes Hecker, you have been to River Palace once for a few hours and left without a girl - you are the master. :|

AColonizer
11-20-07, 08:37
Kiev1, please, send a pm to me with your email because:

"Kiev1 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."

Hecker
11-20-07, 20:25
Yes Hecker, you have been to River Palace once for a few hours and left without a girl - you are the master. :|Yes, because it seemed to me overpriced since I had three girls the same afternoon for 5 hours doing everything for 200$ and some foods and drinks from produkti. After RP I entered Decadence where I was touching a hot odessan ass for the next two hours. This girl had a low-cat dress that showed her buttocks when she danced. She almost seemed naked as she had wore a G-string underneath. So I talked to her and had my hand all over her bare ass with her not reacting at all.

RP is the easy solution. Decadence, 47, Carribean are for fighters, for people who want to pull freebies. There is the challenge and the tricks.

Reiner Otto
11-27-07, 23:02
Hi,

I will be there until middle of January. In case, anybody there, too, wants to share some expirience or beer, let me know.

Doctor_Skank
11-28-07, 19:13
RP is the easy solution. Decadence, 47, Carribean are for fighters, for people who want to pull freebies. There is the challenge and the tricks.
Yeah, that's the truth. Clubs and chasing freebies is for warriors. It doesn't always work, but when it does the payoff is (usually) higher... but not always.

It's all about fighting the fight and being a warrior.

Heyholetsgo
12-06-07, 03:13
Gents I'll be in Kiev this weekend to mix work and fun -- PM me if you're around.

Bass Xxx
12-08-07, 18:10
Guys,

I'll be in Odessa for holiday in the period 19-29 december 2007, if anybody is going to be there and wants to join me in taking the most out of the main ukrainian national asset (which is not natural gas :-) you're very welcome!

See you folks!

P Bear
12-10-07, 18:40
I will be in Donesk and Mariupol the next to the last week in March. If anybody is going to be there at the same time- would like to get a PM. Also, if anybody has some digits or leads for these areas- (as Ross Peroit said)- I am all ears. PM me. My taste runs to the "spinner" type and I am not much for the bar scene.

P Bear

Ok Farm Boy
12-14-07, 06:05
I am planning on a trip in Jan. from the 18th to the 28th will be in Odessa and Lugansk. I have been looking for cheap airfare from Kiev to those cities and have been unlucky. Does anyone recommend a website if so pm me please.

Ok Farm Boy
12-14-07, 08:10
Where can I find cheap airfare to travel in the Ukraine?

I am planning a trip to Lugansk and Odessa in Jan.

Thanks in advance

LifeSavour
12-14-07, 10:20
Where can I find cheap airfare to travel in the Ukraine?

I am planning a trip to Lugansk and Odessa in Jan.

Thanks in advanceI have had some great deals there.

LS Guy

PS: Be creative!

Lazywaste
12-14-07, 22:41
Try using www.vayama.com - I have used them for all 4 of my trips to ukraine and they save me alot of money over other travel sites. While on the site try looking at the Kiev - Odessa flight which is only 120 dollars round trip. It may make some sense and save some money to fly into Kiev then booking that seperate flight to Odessa versus directly to Odessa.

Sevastopol1
12-26-07, 09:58
Where can I find cheap airfare to travel in the Ukraine?

I am planning a trip to Lugansk and Odessa in Jan.

Thanks in advance

You can book at Borispol, $100 max should pretty much get you anywhere in Ukraine, having said that you might want to consider the train if you have plenty of time, safe and always on time and safety record is good compared to internal flights(some ot those Yaks and Tupos really should not be flying)!!!!

Sauce
12-27-07, 05:22
Where can I find cheap airfare to travel in the Ukraine?

I am planning a trip to Lugansk and Odessa in Jan.

Thanks in advance

I use Ukrainefare.com for booking my airline travel inside Ukraine before I go. They even booked my train tickets for me before I arrived, thus making sure I had a lower bunk reserved in advance of my arrival.

Sauce

Jaimito Cartero
12-27-07, 08:47
Try using www.vayama.com - I have used them for all 4 of my trips to ukraine and they save me alot of money over other travel sites. While on the site try looking at the Kiev - Odessa flight which is only 120 dollars round trip. It may make some sense and save some money to fly into Kiev then booking that seperate flight to Odessa versus directly to Odessa.

vayama is a good site, and will often book difficult multi-leg journeys. Always check business class fares, as there might be some low cost ones.

If you want to go to 2-3 cites, use the multiple destinations. It can often save you a lot, instead of purchasing separate tickets.

P Bear
01-04-08, 20:24
I would like to have a couple of leads on "family" apartments that are available in Yalta in April. I will be with folks who do not engage in our sport during this trip. Anybody have some leads for an agency that might have two bedroom, inexpensive apartments in Simporopol or better yet- Yalta for a couple of days in April.

The Bear

Ok Farm Boy
01-18-08, 03:58
Headed to the Ukraine again in Feb be there from the 29th to the 10th of March. Anyone going to be in Odessa from the 29th to the 5th. Then either Nikoliv (sp) or back to Kiev. Pm me. If you want to grab a beer.

Sevastopol1
01-21-08, 11:25
I would like to have a couple of leads on "family" apartments that are available in Yalta in April. I will be with folks who do not engage in our sport during this trip. Anybody have some leads for an agency that might have two bedroom, inexpensive apartments in Simporopol or better yet- Yalta for a couple of days in April.

The Bear
There will be many apartments available in Yalta and Simferopol (also you might want to consider Alushta, about 30 minutes north on the coast road from Yalta (30 minutes from Simferopol) much cheaper than Yalta, bit smaller but still very popular, I was there yesterday and it looks ok!) in April/May time, neither of these places get really busy until the start of the summer season (1st June when the kids knock off school for 3 months). You can try the usual when you arrive, train/bus station at Simferopol or Yalta (you will need excellent Russian speaking skills,be prepared to bargain very STRONGLY! If you have a native Russian speaker in the group let him/her negioate and the rest of you keep very silent!). Alternatively the net (yuk) or maybe you might have a contact locally who can fix for you?
I hope this might be some help to you, when you return you might find time to post some of your experiences for other members to learn from (you need to give sometimes if you wish info in return)!!!!!!
Regards Sevastopol1

Romano V
01-26-08, 20:29
I plan to go in Dnepro because it is a good place for mongering

I suggest you to go to labyrinth, for the street club in 1st floor. Otherwise, you can try 18 shevschenko street: nice girls, young and nasty.

You can go to sauna for girls, but there is one near gagarina avenue, in front of the south exit of law academy.

If you have time, why not give a try to Dneprozerjinsk and bomba club in the WE. Might get a free shag with a couple of bucks.

Doctor_Skank
01-27-08, 20:40
I plan to go in Dnepro because it is a good place for mongering

I suggest you to go to labyrinth, for the street club in 1st floor. Otherwise, you can try 18 shevschenko street: nice girls, young and nasty.

You can go to sauna for girls, but there is one near gagarina avenue, in front of the south exit of law academy.

If you have time, why not give a try to Dneprozerjinsk and bomba club in the WE. Might get a free shag with a couple of bucks.
Haven't been to Dnepro in a while... what kind of clubs are "labyrinth" and "18 Shevchenko"? Discos or strip clubs/brothels? Kindly elaborate, thanks!

Romano V
01-27-08, 21:08
what kind of clubs are "labyrinth" and "18 Shevchenko"? Discos or strip clubs/brothels? Kindly elaborate, thanks!First Bomba is a disco, labyrinth and 18 shevchenko are saunas/brothels you pay the girl 40 $ and you can fuck her in a room for one hour, club is like a mini cabaret.

If you have contacts (phone numbers) please send me a PM for Dnipro.

If you want to hunt with me i will be available to help you next mounth and I will be happy to be your wingman.

Hecker
01-27-08, 21:40
Romano V is Vince Voyeur and he has not been in Dnipro. I was in Labyrinth. I wrote about that 10 months ago. It is a big club with 5 different halls each one with different music. This is good for pick up as you can hit on a girl in one room without the others in the next rooms being able to notice.

The place is packed with hotties. One time I was there I ended with a married woman in my lap who told me she wanted to divorce her husband and marry me and the next day I ended with a model 180 cm brunette who showed interest to meet the next days.

However to achieve that I had to go through a lot of rejections first. Of course Labyrinth is the best club in Dnipro without doubt.

Namster
01-28-08, 23:18
Hello All,

I'm new here and recently posted in the Czech forum. I was thinking about spending my 3 weeks vacation in Czech Republic, but after reading the Ukraine section i am now unsure :( there seems to be many great reports here and being a newbie i just want to make best use of my time,

Your opinions welcome

Thanks

BTW: What has happened to American Ukraine?


Hello All,

I am new here and just wanted to introduce myself. I am 26 and from the UK and fair looking. I can speak basic Czech Language to hold a conversation. I have read many great reports here from the experienced members and I hope I can contribute soon. My extended vaction soon of three weeks is coming up so question is where do I go? Prague, Usti Nad Labem or Olomouc? Or elsewhere? . What ideally I would like to go for is the natural Discos/coffee bar route which is non P4p (I hope that makes sense). As I am not very experienced I would appreciate any advise you Guys can give me?

Cheers

Romano V
01-29-08, 18:13
BTW: What has happened to American Ukraine?My brother American Ukraine is doctor now !

Bez Bezarra
01-30-08, 04:31
My brother American Ukraine is doctor now



Voyeur the congratulation, you are so proud of brother.

Such that now you have much enjoyment he is perform your daily prostate examination. :p

Romano V
01-30-08, 16:58
No, Sammy (Samual) my bro is a sexologist.

He studied in Lugansk (all the girls and mongers)

he done for the forum a nice job, but he said me it is finish because he is muslim and he has a girlfriend muslim too now, so he stopped to chat with us.

He just promoted doctor!

Congratulations to him, and I hope he will come back.

Cruiser D
01-30-08, 21:15
Now that he is done fucking around with the bad Ukrainian ho's he can go back to being a 'good' muslim? Isn't that just fucking special.

Now that he is a doctor maybe he can treat all the STD's he has. ;)

Bez Bezarra
01-31-08, 03:15
Amerikan? Ukraine? Muslim?

So is he Dr. American Taliban?

Cruiser D
02-02-08, 17:02
Announcing the First Annual ISG Super Bowl Ho Down at River Palace.

Taking place at the sports bar downstairs. Kickoff is around 1:15am. All are welcome to attend.

This is a informal gathering and not a catered affair - ie no free loaders. I'm not looking to sponsor a 50+ sexpat. ;)

This party is no way affiliated with the NFL, the New England Patriots or the NY Giants - they only wish it was.

Romano V
02-18-08, 12:32
Victoriya, 24 y.o.
H: 5'3" (1m 61cm)
W: 136lbs (61.7kg)
Ukraine
Dnepropetrovsk

Name: Victoriya
Country: Ukraine
State/region: Dnepropetrovsk
City: Dnepropetrovsk
Marital status: Single
Date of birth: Jun 2, 1983
Age: 24
Zodiac sign: Gemini
Religion: Christian
Height: 5'3" (1m 61cm)
Weight: 136lbs (61.7kg)
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Children: None
Education: university graduate
Occupation: banking worker
Languages: English
Smoking: Often
Drinking: Rarely

Self description:

I fair, kind, loving the world. I like to communicate with people. It is my work. Also I love productive leisure. I like to travel. More in detail about myself I can tell at correspondence.

Partner description:

I wish to get acquainted with Romano V. Which is able to love people.
Age from 25 to 40 years old

Bumppp
02-22-08, 23:57
Please use this thread to announce your travel plans and your intentions to meet up with other Forum Members.===============================================
I am a Dutchman whol lives in Portugal and I go to Kiev at May, 7th till May, 22th

I am a newbie here and my Englisch is lauzy but I hope you will understand what I want.

Its my first time so if you have experience? pls advice me for things like hotels, girls, massage and other important things.

I like to make a ukraine- tour , starting in Kiev and like to vsit Rivne : for the rest : I have no ideas but sex is a important isue.( LOL)

I think I will need a driver & his car to show me arround all these days.Anyone who knows a nice guy for such a job?

Anyone who knows nice girls in Rivne ??

And if I understood all whats written here, the real mecca, is Odessa or?

Thanks an advance

Bumppp

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Devhunter
02-24-08, 20:00
hello dear fellows,

i will spend this summer from 1st june till 30th august in sevastopol. my plan is to rent a 2-room apartment in center town with high speed internet, aircon and so on. since this will not come cheap, i am inviting you to join me in my accomodation for the total period or part of these 3 months. we can then split the costs 50-50. of course it is also always good to have a wing man, when chasing the devushkis (girls). i am german, 40 years old and fluent in english. my french is also not bad and my base knowledge of russian is a great help with the girls. i have 3 years experience with hunting in ukraine and russia and a good track record. in sevastopol i still have several contacts, who are eager to see me again. i will have my private car, motorbike and bicycle for ease of transportation. we can offer some nice excursion to the girls, for example to kazantip techno festival in crimea. i have been there in 2005 and still remember fondly the many topless beauties on a lovely sandy beach.
does that sound tempting to you? please get in touch with me.

Bumppp
02-25-08, 01:07
I am a Dutchman who lives in Portugal and I go to Kiev at May, 7th till May, 22 th

I am a newbie here and my Englisch is lauzy but I hope you will understand what I want.

Its my first time so if you have experience? Please advice me for things like hotels, girls, massage and other important things.

I like to make a ukraine- tour, starting in Kiev and like to vsit Rivne: for the rest: I have no ideas but sex is a important isue. (LOL)

I think I will need a driver & his car to show me arround all these days. Anyone who knows a nice guy for such a job?

Anyone who knows nice girls in Rivne?

And if I understood all whats written here, the real mecca, is Odessa or?

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST. If someone likes to join me? Feel free to send me a message. 1 and 1 is sometimes 3.

I speak some Englisch, German and Dutch.

Thanks an advance

Bumppp

Bez Bezarra
02-25-08, 12:48
elmer

more than car, bike, and moto, ya really need for a summer in sevastopol is a speedboat, for side trips to all the black seaports.

bumppuss, why are ya going to rivne? even if you could find a couple girls there, well ok so, but then for a good 100 klicks due north or south, there's not much but a lot of empty oblast.

Nistelrooy
02-25-08, 16:28
This will be my 6th trip in Kiev in the last 2 years. I normally come for one week trips and spent a majority of my time with the girls (I meet online prior to arriving). That has always worked well for me. It would be nice to meet some of my fellow ISG members during this trip. I work & live in Philadelphia in case that matters to anyone. Please send me a private message if anyone is interested in getting together for a drink or two.

Thanks

Bumppp
03-08-08, 15:04
Hello guys,

I will come to kiev 14 marts to 17 marts anybody in Kiev this time write me, this is my 8th time I will come to Kiev.I live in tavira / Portugal and I like to call you or sending a email but thats impossible.

Pls contact me?

===============================================

Hi Bumppp,

It's not impossible to contact Spanishboy. Just stick a crowbar in your wallet and buy a $20 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained.

A forum subscription is less than 40 cents a week. That's less than the price of a newspaper.

Thanks,

Jackson

Klachankof
03-09-08, 18:14
I will be in Kiev from Mar 11 till Mar 17.

If some one up for beer or two please send a message.

Pupsnu
03-20-08, 12:30
I will be in Kiev 24-25. I am fluent in russian but don't really know anyone in Kiev. My plan is to go hunting in RP on Monday and take them to sauna. Anyone wants to join me in this?

Talia20
03-23-08, 19:06
My name is Alexa.

Let me know if you need help.

Reiner Otto
04-01-08, 23:56
Hi,

I will be in Nikolaev again, starting 16-April, until end of May.
Anybody out there for a beer ?
If YES, please PM.
Will be glad to go to Odessa or Cherson, too.

Cheers,

from Germany

AColonizer
04-02-08, 16:44
Alexa stands for alexandra?

Yes, I need a female touch in my mission in Kiev. Please, contact me.


My name is Alexa.

Let me know if you need help.

Torro9
04-02-08, 23:59
Hi there,

I am new here but I am in Kiev from April 12th till April 21st.

Anyone will join for a drink? Just let me know.

Cheers,

Torro

Lupo69
04-06-08, 10:34
Hi guys,

I know it's my first report and I should give info instread of asking. I know it, but I need your help.

I'm planning to be in Ukraine during the last week of April, mainly for freebies or semi-prof hunting. Not interested in escort agency.

I've been already 6 times in kiev always for short periods, 3-4 days.

Now I wish to visit some other place, but I'm not sure that I will find the real stunnings you can meet in decadance or skybar in kiev.

Is there any city with such kind of girls? Hopefully, a bit easier to get laid with them. Hunting stunning girls in kiev is now very difficult.

I was thinking about flying to Dnipropetrovsk to stay few days there and after have a car ride to Donetsk. But I also read about beautiful girls in kharkov. Please let let me know your suggestions.

Many thanks to everybody.

AColonizer
04-06-08, 15:54
I will be in Kiev next week and I am interested to meet some forumers. But the question is: you forumers, why did you put your advertisements but it is not possible to contact you for arranging a meeting?

Dallim93
04-07-08, 05:01
Would one you Gentleman give me advise as to what Hotel I should stay at in Kiev, I plan to meet a few freebies, so I don't want to stay in a dump, but also I don't want to pay through my nose. I guess something decent and close to the center of Kiev?

Thank you all

Lupo69
04-07-08, 08:53
Would one you Gentleman give me advise as to what Hotel I should stay at in Kiev, I plan to meet a few freebies, so I don't want to stay in a dump, but also I don't want to pay through my nose. I guess something decent and close to the center of Kiev?

Thank you allTry "Sherborne" apartments. They have luxory (and not so expensive apartments) in the center with daily room cleanig, laundry service and minibar.

Explorer69
04-07-08, 10:22
Would one you Gentleman give me advise as to what Hotel I should stay at in Kiev, I plan to meet a few freebies, so I don't want to stay in a dump, but also I don't want to pay through my nose. I guess something decent and close to the center of Kiev?

Thank you allUnless you for some reason HAVE to stay in hotel, you see that everybody on this forum suggests to stay in an apartment, it is much cheaper, you can have a beautiful 2-room apt right in the centre for lower price than in a hotel unless you stay in a real dump. I have excellent experience with http://www.kievapts.com. And no: I have no association with this company:))! Freebies may also prefer apats, they are often afraid of security in hotels.

P Bear
04-07-08, 16:37
I am not much of a hunter- but for my money and pleasure- I find the girls far nicer and more approachable for lower cost in Donesk and Mariopol. I have had success in Dnepo and clearly there are many girls. But it is hard to beat some of the bars in Donesk. I have only one exposure to Mariopol- but it seemed that every female in town was looking for something other than the local fare.

The Bear

Hi guys,

I know it's my first report and I should give info instread of asking. I know it, but I need your help.

I'm planning to be in Ukraine during the last week of April, mainly for freebies or semi-prof hunting. Not interested in escort agency.

I've been already 6 times in kiev always for short periods, 3-4 days.

Now I wish to visit some other place, but I'm not sure that I will find the real stunnings you can meet in decadance or skybar in kiev.

Is there any city with such kind of girls? Hopefully, a bit easier to get laid with them. Hunting stunning girls in kiev is now very difficult.

I was thinking about flying to Dnipropetrovsk to stay few days there and after have a car ride to Donetsk. But I also read about beautiful girls in kharkov. Please let let me know your suggestions.

Many thanks to everybody.

Reiner Otto
04-07-08, 18:07
I'm planning to be in Ukraine during the last week of April, mainly for freebies or semi-prof hunting. Not interested in escort agency.


I suggest the South of UA, like Odessa/Nikolaev/Cherson. Better weather, shorter skirts ....
In Odessa more tourists/hunters, Nikolaev has the better girls, Cherson is the cheapest place.
Good connections inbetween by public transport, why not to visit two places. Take a train overnight from Kiev, good connections.

I will be in that area during that time, so let me know, in case you want to have a beer.

Reiner Otto
04-07-08, 18:27
I'm planning to be in Ukraine during the last week of April, mainly for freebies or semi-prof hunting. Not interested in escort agency.


You should seriously consider Moldova, too. Very few pros, a lot of semi, at least ....
And the wine is terriffic ....

Dallim93
04-08-08, 03:59
Explore69,

But are these apartments safe to leave your stuff particularly your money and passport behind in them. In most hotels you get a safe in your room, what about these Apartments. My concern is that I am not comfortable carrying all my cash and my passport everywhere I go, so I usually leave it behind in the room.

I appreciate anyones input


Unless you for some reason HAVE to stay in hotel, you see that everybody on this forum suggests to stay in an apartment, it is much cheaper, you can have a beautiful 2-room apt right in the centre for lower price than in a hotel unless you stay in a real dump. I have excellent experience with http://www.kievapts.com. And no: I have no association with this company:))! Freebies may also prefer apats, they are often afraid of security in hotels.

Telos
04-12-08, 04:00
Anyone in town who wants to get crazy in saxon tonight? It is my first time there and I am looking forward to it. If anyone wants to join PM me!

Lupo69
04-16-08, 22:36
Hi guys,

I've got 5 days free at beginning of May. From 30 April to 4 May.

After having been already 7 times in Kiev, now I wish to change.

I'm not interested in escorts. I look for freebies or maximum semi-prof, stunners like you can find in decadance disco or skybar in Kiev.

That kind of stunners: 175 cm, 50 kg, model type. That kind of stunner you normally find in Kiev, but hopefully less difficult to bed.

Can anybody suggest me whether it is better Dnipropetrovks or Donetsk (or maybe kharkov.) for my hunt?

Is anybody around in this period for a drink together and maybe some joint hunt.

Thanks

Romano V
04-17-08, 19:58
Hi guys,

Can anybody suggest me whether it is better Dnipropetrovks or Donetsk (or maybe kharkov.) for my hunt?

ThanksIf you nice looking guy and wear black clothes with black shoes or Berlutti so you can try Dnipropetrovsk but do not go at the center for the discos take a taxi and go suburb where you can find young girl at Sfera try some bars too on the Karl Marks avenue.

If you are crazy and ugly as me so do not go to the discos.

Devhunter
04-18-08, 20:00
Hello, everybody,

I am on Western Crimea with my car till Monday 21st in the morning.

Anyone in the area?

Please send me SMS on [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

We can meet for a beer or two.

Poka

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Lupo69
04-18-08, 21:12
Finally I have decided to go to Donetsk. From 30 Apr to 1 May. I hope to hunt some stunning girls, model type, same level as in Kiev, in kreschatik or in decadance. Any tips where to go? In day and at night? Only freebies or semi-prof. No professional or escort agency.

If somebody is around, then let me know, we can have a drink or some hunting together. I'm 39, Italian, good english, no russian.

Cheers

Speed Touch
04-23-08, 23:23
hello

first trip to kiev for me arriving around 6pm on the saturday. if there's anyone mongers who want to meet for a drink let send me a pm.

cheers
speed touch

Reiner Otto
04-26-08, 10:49
Hi, will anybody be there ?
Or can anybody give some more info regarding
- recommended hotels/appartments
- where to hunt ?

I am not so shure, that Romano is so reliable ..

Lupo69
04-26-08, 11:20
Hi, will anybody be there ?
Or can anybody give some more info regarding
- recommended hotels/appartments
- where to hunt ?

I am not so shure, that Romano is so reliable ..Hi Reiner Otto,

I will be in Donetsk from 30th April to 4th May. I'm trying to fix an apartment,
It's not so far from Dnipropetrovsk. Maybe I'll come there to meet a girl.

But I have a great doubt. Next week it's Russian Easter Holiday, and I'm afraid almost all stunners will be out of Donetsk.. and best clubs / discos closed.

What do you think, Should I come another time?

I look for stunners, 18-25 yrs, semi profs and freebies.

No escorts and profs

Cheers

Orange Leo
04-26-08, 12:42
Hi, will anybody be there ?

Or can anybody give some more info regarding

- recommended hotels/appartments
- where to hunt ?

I am not so shure, that Romano is so reliable ..There are some SW at Karl max street after 11pm, most of the SW you will fiend out of the city standing at the road to Kiev.

Labyrint you can meet some at the disco, the girl I met at the stripclub did cost more then I would pay.

I cannot recoment go to the other bars at Kalr max street, There are also many bars at Dnepr and there are a Island in Dnepr with bars and resturants.

Hecker
04-26-08, 13:46
Hi, will anybody be there?

Or can anybody give some more info regarding

- recommended hotels/appartments
- where to hunt ?

I am not so shure, that Romano is so reliable ..Hotel Dnipro.It is soviet but renovated and most importantly in good position close to center,you can reach it walking in 15 minutes.Low cost for room,about 250 grivnia.Only the personell is somewhat strange but this is common all over East Ukraine.

Disco Labyrinth.Huge with excellent samples on Friday,Saturday but open everyday.If you want try also Sfera and Berlin(far from center),they are considerably smaller.

There are two big shopping centers near the central square with cafes inside etc.One is Europa,the other I do not remember the name,you will find out.Full of hotties inside,possible to start conversation.

Reiner Otto
04-27-08, 12:51
Hotel Dnipro.It is soviet but renovated and most importantly in good position close to center,you can reach it walking in 15 minutes.Low cost for room,about 250 grivnia.
Sounds reasonable to me. BUT: Any problem with the security guys asking for $ when bringing in a girl ?

Reiner Otto
04-27-08, 13:03
Hi Reiner Otto,
What do you think, Should I come another time?


Today is Easter, next weekend are holidays because of 1-May. Students will be at home, most likely, and the very well-off girls will be out of town as well I guess. Together with their sponsors heading to Crimea etc. :-)
So very top-class MIGHT be out of town.
But, both Dnjepr and Donezk are big cities, so there still should be left quite a few good girls.

On the other side, often such holidays are used by the not-so-regular-female-disco-goers to make an exception.
And they might be even easier to chase.

I want to go to Dnjepr, because I have to leave my flat in Nikolaev because of renovations and for me Dnjepr is closer than Donezk.

Orange Leo
04-27-08, 17:12
Sounds reasonable to me. BUT: Any problem with the security guys asking for $ when bringing in a girl ?I have stay at this hotel more than two weeks and two time have i had a girl with me, no money asked.

Speed Touch
05-03-08, 16:36
just arrived in kiev, staying somewhere in the centre of town, need to get my bearings. got internet in my apartment which is a big plus...thank god for isg.

if anyone's around and wants to show a newbie a few of the bars then send me a pm.

got a local sim card, lets see how that goes,
speed touch

Bumppp
05-03-08, 16:49
just arrived in kiev, staying somewhere in the centre of town, need to get my bearings. got internet in my apartment which is a big plus...thank god for isg.

if anyone's around and wants to show a newbie a few of the bars then send me a pm.

got a local sim card, lets see how that goes.

speed touchyou need a jeans sim card! succes. i be their as from may, 7 th till may, 23

have fun!

Tartan Boy
05-04-08, 15:05
I'll be staying in The Rus Hotel in Kiev in July for 2nights before heading down to Odessa,and would be gratefull to anyone who has either stayed there OR has any info at all regarding the Hotel?

IE: Are there any working girls hanging around the Hotel bars? If so,is there a problem getting them back to the room? and so on..!

Any general info about the Hotel too,would be greatly appreciated..

TB

Sasha Byelov
05-09-08, 15:23
I'll be staying in The Rus Hotel in Kiev in July for 2nights before heading down to Odessa,and would be gratefull to anyone who has either stayed there OR has any info at all regarding the Hotel?

IE: Are there any working girls hanging around the Hotel bars? If so,is there a problem getting them back to the room? and so on..!

Any general info about the Hotel too,would be greatly appreciated..

TBBeware of tough security guys in Rus. If you bring a girl in, they take her to reception, take some gryvnas, she is supposed to leave her passport, etc. You may be lucky and there is just a short moment where they don't look. I had both happen, but stopped to stay. You may find chicks in the bar on 2nd floor, one time I caught 3 at a time, but it could be also empty. I simply stopped to stay there.

The President Hotel which is just uphill has a strip bar in the basement on Rus side. If you stayed there, there are always plenty of hookers in the lobby bar.

6th floor is renovated and has LAN, otherwise buy a Wifi card and sit in the lobby bar. Eat somewhere else!

Central location, you can walk down towards the center, and there are tons of good restaurants. I always like Bellevue t the beginning of Saksaganskogo st.

Hope this helps you around.

Reiner Otto
05-11-08, 22:36
Hi,

Any actual recommendations for Charkov?

Where to go there?

Will go there fron Nikolaev for a couple of days within next 2 weeks.

Serse
05-12-08, 08:42
I'll be in Odessa for a couple of day nexy week (19 to 21 May).

Is someone there for an evening out together looking for freebies?

Lazywaste
05-22-08, 21:08
Well gents, I'm planning on being in ODessa from June 4th-11th. If anyone else is around I'd enjoy meeting up and having a good time.

Fck Dick
05-23-08, 00:21
Right now, I don't know where I'll stay so any help is welcome.
Would enjoy another mongers company.

Namster
05-23-08, 14:16
Hello,

I am in Kiev now, would like to meet with fellow members please call me:

[Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

Cheers

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Rulerk
05-28-08, 20:32
I am permanently in Odessa, so if anyone wants to hang out, get tips or chase skirts PM me.

Kevin

Pennen Red
05-28-08, 21:49
Was in Odessa Aug 2006...going to meet some friends next month in Kiev for two nights,then flying down to Odessa for 2 weeks.Has there been any changes in the nightlife scene down at the beach over the last two years,or is it still the same.

P.R

Doctor_Skank
05-29-08, 07:04
Was in Odessa Aug 2006...going to meet some friends next month in Kiev for two nights,then flying down to Odessa for 2 weeks.Has there been any changes in the nightlife scene down at the beach over the last two years,or is it still the same.

P.RI was there last summer and it was exactly the same, only difference was I was stopped twice on separate nights by the local militia wanting to see my passport and immigration card. That had never happened to me before in Odessa. I plan to return in August of this year for some stimulation... :)

Pennen Red
05-29-08, 20:35
I was there last summer and it was exactly the same, only difference was I was stopped twice on separate nights by the local militia wanting to see my passport and immigration card. That had never happened to me before in Odessa. I plan to return in August of this year for some stimulation... :)Thank's for your reply.

Look's like the Ukraine Goverment (local militia) have got wise over the last 2 year's and want coin in some capital gain. They must be getting ready for the mad rush from the west soon. Before we no it, there will be stag nights in every disco in odessa from the west.

Cruiser D
05-29-08, 23:40
Red, that's unlikely to happen unless there are some serious improvement to the infrastructure in the Ukraine. Some sections of Kiev (not most) are barely passable for an international city.

And it’s cheaper to go to the current spots.

Doctor_Skank
05-30-08, 07:01
Thank's for your reply.

Look's like the Ukraine Goverment (local militia) have got wise over the last 2 year's and want coin in some capital gain. They must be getting ready for the mad rush from the west soon. Before we no it, there will be stag nights in every disco in odessa from the west.Pennen Red,

I think it is more likely some individual militia goons have figured out a way to make some cash on the side. Happened to me in Kiev as well, on consecutive nights by the same cops. Didn't pay them either time and they didn't do anything either. Was strange in both cases, as within a couple of weeks I had been stopped 4 times... and in the previous 5 odd years never.

Red, that's unlikely to happen unless there are some serious improvement to the infrastructure in the Ukraine. Some sections of Kiev (not most) are barely passable for an international city.

And it’s cheaper to go to the current spots.
As for stag night I agree with Cruiser... considering the popularity of the Baltic States (Riga, Talinn etc.) or closer destinations such as A-dam or Hamburg and the ease of travel to them, I really don't see a rush on Odessa ala Prague anytime soon. Besides, the airport simply couldn't handle it. If and when London or Germany starts serving Odessa with 20 € flights, there will be an inevitable jump in frumpish cheap-o tourists.

Beyond that, I don't think stag nights in Odessa would change much. The kind of girl those guys would be all over is the kind of girl that already knows the score when it comes to mono-lingual drooling foreigners. Odessan girls will eat them for lunch or most likely, simply avoid them.

Lazywaste
05-30-08, 17:02
I'd have to Agree with Dr. Shank and Cruiser. When you really get down to it, based on well poor American standards; the infrastructure in Ukraine most commonly brings to mind the term - shit-hole. Now I've been to many countries and 48/50 states in the US, none of those places including Korea are as destitude as Ukraine. Even in Kiev, the apartments that many people live in would be condemed and torn down over here in the states. The airport is more like one you'd find in a war-zone with how bad its runway and taxiways are riddled with potholes and uneven concrete. In addition to that, the customs and passport area just is not equipped to handle any significant load of people, I've waited in lines for over an hour from one small B737 flight before. Thats 1 flight at a time, imagine what it would be like if *gasp* 5 flights landed in 10 minutes!! With that I think its safe to say that the Ukrainian government does have the resources to make imporvements upon the airport, so they would more likely restrict the number of flights coming in rather than accomodate and refurbish the airport. So the only remaining people that will come for stag night will be those with a fix for slavik women that look smoking hot, because they are sick of looking at 200-300 pound heffers in the states.