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MoneyTree
12-12-03, 00:29
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Kodak JS
04-02-04, 17:21
Like Chinese Women?

Hey guys, I have not posted in awhile, but my typical posts have been in Beijing.
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Of course the real fun starts when you go to China to meet the girl (s).

Just be sure you specify who the email should go to. We will translate if necessary.

Best regards,

John

Bob 31
03-14-05, 09:01
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Admin
01-01-06, 01:00
Thread Starter.

Dragon D
03-03-06, 07:02
Need visa services PM me. Can sort out most situations. This service is in Shanghai only. Also if you need to go to HK to get a visa, there is a full travel package available. The Z-Visa is 3000 RMB, the F about 2000, and the trip to HK with the visa and hotel is about 4000 RMB.

Dragon D
03-20-06, 03:34
Due to the number of requests I have had for Chinese take out, I am starting a Chinese take out service. PM me your requests and I can take care of your needs.

Dragon D

Cebu Local
03-22-06, 00:32
Due to the number of requests I have had for Chinese take out, I am starting a Chinese take out service. PM me your requests and I can take care of your needs.

Dragon DHi Dragon,What are take out prices like??The reason I ask is real life,I am in the travel industry and sometimes when I have clients going to Shanghai,I am sometimes asked about Take out because they find the BBS intimidating and the bar scene a bit too much work,They usually end up in MP s paying 500-1000 rmb depending on their bargaining skills,Please PM me Thanks

Traveler1234
03-22-06, 00:54
Hi Dragon,What are take out prices like??The reason I ask is real life,I am in the travel industry and sometimes when I have clients going to Shanghai,I am sometimes asked about Take out because they find the BBS intimidating and the bar scene a bit too much work,They usually end up in MP s paying 500-1000 rmb depending on their bargaining skills,Please PM me Thanks


Tell us all :-)

Cebu Local
03-22-06, 01:20
Tell us all :-)yes why not post the prices,But PM is fine for me.

Parasitius
03-22-06, 03:35
Has anyone used the Visa Service like Dragon D has mentioned ? (Not specifically his, but any of the ones in Hong Kong or whatever which supposedly can get business visa's or whatnot for long-term stay in China) I want to go to China and hunt for a job, but it is hard as hell if I have the 30 day tourist visa and then get booted! It would feel much more comfortable if I could get 3-4 months minimum, just move in get settled, and THEN worry about job hunt. So anyone who's had experience: please advise me. I'm interested in flying into Hong Kong and getting any sort of visa that will let me stay long-term on the mainland.

Dragon D
03-22-06, 03:53
Heya,

Sorry I can only PM details at this point. Just playing it safe. Don't know who all is on this board in the wrong community. Hope you all understand. But if you need some fun, PM me and let me know.

Dragon

Cebu Local
03-23-06, 01:16
Heya,

Sorry I can only PM details at this point. Just playing it safe. Don't know who all is on this board in the wrong community. Hope you all understand. But if you need some fun, PM me and let me know.

Dragon
I got his PM,His prices are about average.But I will respect his wish to communicate only by PM.Btw Dragon,the reason I was inquiring was many clients are asking about take out service.Thanks again

Traveler1234
03-23-06, 01:26
Heya,

Sorry I can only PM details at this point. Just playing it safe. Don't know who all is on this board in the wrong community. Hope you all understand. But if you need some fun, PM me and let me know.

Dragon

Dragon: I can understand wanting to be cautious and careful...but as I said in my PM, ISG won't work in China as the site is blocked. So it will be difficult at times to PM you.

May I suggest you set up a gmail or yahoo email account and give that to anyone that PM's you (note you can't post your email on this site, it's against the forum rules). That way, you can remain safe from LE!

SidTheSexist
03-23-06, 03:03
[QUOTE=Traveler1234] ISG won't work in China as the site is blocked./QUOTE]

I must be getting old if I'm imagining all of this!!!! :)

Amazing Hkg
03-23-06, 03:45
[QUOTE=Traveler1234] ISG won't work in China as the site is blocked./QUOTE]I must be getting old if I'm imagining all of this!!!! :)
==============================================

The site isn't blocked as long as the domain ends in .info

I'm in Shanghai typing this message

Happy Hunting :)

Dragon D
03-23-06, 04:03
Heya all,

Well starting on Monday, I will have an email account that I can be reached at if need be. No problem. Cheers all.

Dragon

PS: I deal in Shanghai in general. But have had a couple of requests for fully guided China tours which I can also handdle. I speak three dialects of Chinese and English so i'm a fairly good guide. Not as cute and nice to have around as a 19 yr old Uni student, but can get you better deals than they can.

Csun213
03-23-06, 05:40
Has anyone used the Visa Service like Dragon D has mentioned ? (Not specifically his, but any of the ones in Hong Kong or whatever which supposedly can get business visa's or whatnot for long-term stay in China) I want to go to China and hunt for a job, but it is hard as hell if I have the 30 day tourist visa and then get booted! It would feel much more comfortable if I could get 3-4 months minimum, just move in get settled, and THEN worry about job hunt. So anyone who's had experience: please advise me. I'm interested in flying into Hong Kong and getting any sort of visa that will let me stay long-term on the mainland.

If you are job hunting around Shenzhen or Guangzhou area then Visa won't be a big problem. When your visa is up all you have to do is to go across to Hong Kong, get a Visa renew and then just come right back to Shenzhen. You can try to get a longer Visa for China by writting on your application that you want to travel and see all of China. They will probably give you a 60 days Visa with either a 2 entry or a mult-entry. At least that was how we got a 2 entry with a 60 days Visa.

Barca Paseo
03-25-06, 21:51
I was able to get a 6 month F-visa (multiple entry visa) through a visa service. I did not even need to get a letter from a China company "vouching" for me as a business client. However this was originally done from the US.

I will try to get this visa renewed from a China visa service in the next few weeks and will let people know the results.

I believe many of the visa services often have connections at the local consulate and are able to get the multiple entry visas fairly easily.

However as a recent post just mentioned, it is generally no problem to go back and forth from HK getting tourist visa renewals.

Dragon D
03-26-06, 06:21
Heya all,

As one post claims, you can get the visas outside of China with little problem. In China though if you go to renew then the new rules that started in Feb apply and it is hard to not leave the country. Also many HK visa services offer 6 months but you must leave every 30 days so be careful if you are doing this yourself. My services are mainly in Shanghai and cater to clients who want a no hassel process. If you are willing to or have the time to spend dealing with this headache, by all means go ahead.

Superforce99
04-07-06, 08:00
Just to add my 2 cents, since I've had to get 3 visas in HK in the last 5 months...

US Citizens specifically can no longer get multiple-entry visas of any kind,
or so I was told. Single or double entry only. Also, maximum stay for any
visa is 30 days. The caveat is that you can renew a 30-day tourist visa
2 times from within China at the local PSB in whatever Chinese city you
happen to be in.

This info from March 2006 and is related to getting China visas in HK.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.


Johnny

Moody
04-07-06, 14:32
Don't know about March, but I was able to get a 1 year visa in HK in Feb.


Just to add my 2 cents, since I've had to get 3 visas in HK in the last 5 months...

US Citizens specifically can no longer get multiple-entry visas of any kind,
or so I was told. Single or double entry only. Also, maximum stay for any
visa is 30 days. The caveat is that you can renew a 30-day tourist visa
2 times from within China at the local PSB in whatever Chinese city you
happen to be in.

This info from March 2006 and is related to getting China visas in HK.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.


Johnny

Tiger 888
04-08-06, 02:53
Check my post in the HK Maps section for this. Ther is a phone number and website where you can always call to ask the latest regulations. Last week it was still possible to get a multiple under certain conditions. All mentioned there.
Tiger

Gualtier Malde
04-08-06, 19:56
I had no problem in March getting a 2 year multiple entry visa. I did it in the US though, not Hong Kong. Maybe there is a difference in Hong Kong itself.

David


Just to add my 2 cents, since I've had to get 3 visas in HK in the last 5 months...

US Citizens specifically can no longer get multiple-entry visas of any kind,
or so I was told. Single or double entry only. Also, maximum stay for any
visa is 30 days. The caveat is that you can renew a 30-day tourist visa
2 times from within China at the local PSB in whatever Chinese city you
happen to be in.

This info from March 2006 and is related to getting China visas in HK.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.


Johnny

Bnlee2
04-08-06, 21:46
I just got my one year multiple entry visa for China in the US. i had no problem in obtaining it. No questions ask. i just checked the box for the one year multiple entry visa on the application.

being good looking probably helps too when obtaining a visa. IMHO


Just to add my 2 cents, since I've had to get 3 visas in HK in the last 5 months...

US Citizens specifically can no longer get multiple-entry visas of any kind,
or so I was told. Single or double entry only. Also, maximum stay for any
visa is 30 days. The caveat is that you can renew a 30-day tourist visa
2 times from within China at the local PSB in whatever Chinese city you
happen to be in.

This info from March 2006 and is related to getting China visas in HK.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.


Johnny

Barca Paseo
04-09-06, 15:09
To clarify this discussion, I think the primary issue is whether one can get the multiple entry visas from China or HK as opposed to having to apply in the jurisidiction of residency.

I think it is fairly simple and straightforward to get multiple-entry visas in US or Europe. I have done it myself with no problems.

My multiple entry visa is going to expire in the 3rd week of April and I was going to try and renew from China or HK, but I have recently been advised that it might not be so simple.

To avoid the hassle of last minute contingency plans I will likely renew outside of China/HK.

Tiger 888
04-10-06, 02:06
If you are not an US citizien, a multiple in HK is no issue at all. If you have one in yor passport already it should be no issue either. Just call shoestring travels or CITS on Peking Rd. and ask them.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=449860&postcount=11

Scorpio33
04-10-06, 14:59
If you are not an US citizien, a multiple in HK is no issue at all. If you have one in yor passport already it should be no issue either. Just call shoestring travels or CITS on Peking Rd. and ask them.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=449860&postcount=11I can also vouch for Shoestring Travel. Applied for 1 year, multiple-entry visa this morning at 8:30am. Picked it up this afternoon at 1:15pm. No problem using U.S. passport as long as there's at least one previous multiple-entry visa, or two business visas ("L" type). Price for U.S. passports is HK$2500 for same day service; most other countries, as stated by one of the gals in the office is HK$1500.

Tiger 888
04-11-06, 04:01
For the most other countries part, you can get that at Japan travel much cheaper(same day 950) . But Japan Travel doesn't handle US passports.
See the Hong Kong Maps thread for details and directions.

Dragon D
04-11-06, 13:55
Heya all,

Seeing that Americans latley are having problems, I am offering a USA special for ISG friends. I can get Americans 6 month multi entry visas in Shanghai with no time limit in 5 days for 2400 RMB. The following is what you will need:
passport, 1 pic, temp residence permit (blue or yellow paper). I will pick up and deliver your paper work from any where in Shanghai saving you all the headaches. I can be reached via PM on this site and from there, I will provide you an email for further contact.

Cheers

Dragon

Traveler1234
04-11-06, 14:45
Heya all,

Seeing that Americans latley are having problems, I am offering a USA special for ISG friends. I can get Americans 6 month multi entry visas in Shanghai with no time limit in 5 days for 2400 RMB. The following is what you will need:
passport, 1 pic, temp residence permit (blue or yellow paper). I will pick up and deliver your paper work from any where in Shanghai saving you all the headaches. I can be reached via PM on this site and from there, I will provide you an email for further contact.

Cheers

Dragon

Nothing personal...whereas I might use your services for mongering, not sure I'd want to part with my passport to a 'stranger'. IMHO.

Dragon D
04-11-06, 16:02
Well aren't all the agents strangers? Why can mongers have special services that come in packages? If the guy that gets you laid can get you a legit visa, why not? If you can trust me to take care of your personal needs, why not business as well? I translate, take people on tours, business negotiations, etc.. kinda Jack of all trades. Need me for anything in Shanghai, PM me.

Dragon

Traveler1234
04-11-06, 16:35
Well aren't all the agents strangers? Why can mongers have special services that come in packages? If the guy that gets you laid can get you a legit visa, why not? If you can trust me to take care of your personal needs, why not business as well? I translate, take people on tours, business negotiations, etc.. kinda Jack of all trades. Need me for anything in Shanghai, PM me.

Dragon

Mongering is for fun, Visa's business (pain in ass)....I try not to mix the two.

Again no offensive meant.

Cebu Local
04-12-06, 00:18
To any legitemate or underground visa providers.I would like to engage services for helping me get a single young Chinese lady out of China either as a student or working permit.She is a Guangdong based Tourist guide who speaks Excellent English,Cantonese and Mandarin and is studying Filipino from her Filipina friend.I want to hire her as a Chinese guide for my Business and can arrange the Permits,Special visa etc Philippine side.But Its the China exit permits etc that i need help on and willing to pay for services to facilitate this.Please PM me for how I can contact you for details,fees etc

Tiger 888
04-12-06, 00:58
Hi CL,

I would say it is not a big deal to get someone out of China.

Let her apply for a passport and get the appropriate visas. To my experience, the Thai Consulate e.g. requires a 10000 RMB fixed deposit for 6 months to ensure she returns back. To my knowledge the Chinese let everyone go (unless they are involved in the secret service or similar) as long as they can prove they are welcome at the place they want ot go to (visa) and as long as their employer agrees (if in employment).

My knowledge might be outdated though. Any correction welcome.

Tiger

Superforce99
04-12-06, 02:45
...Price for U.S. passports is HK$2500 for same day service...


Ouch! Unless you enter/exit Hong Kong more than 6 times per year, this is not worth it...

Dragon D
04-12-06, 04:11
Have to agree with Johnnykon666. I can do it for less without you going to HK. But for some people that travel around as a sales rep then it is worth it. All depends on the individual situation.

Member #1210
04-12-06, 05:47
I just got my 1 Year Multientry China visa at Chinese Consulate in Los Angeles. Simple process. No questions asked.





Just to add my 2 cents, since I've had to get 3 visas in HK in the last 5 months...

US Citizens specifically can no longer get multiple-entry visas of any kind,
or so I was told. Single or double entry only. Also, maximum stay for any
visa is 30 days. The caveat is that you can renew a 30-day tourist visa
2 times from within China at the local PSB in whatever Chinese city you
happen to be in.

This info from March 2006 and is related to getting China visas in HK.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.


Johnny

Caseykee
04-12-06, 08:22
I am providing Malaysia PRC visa who is interested fee to pm me?

Sammon
04-12-06, 13:26
If you are going on a business visa you can get 2 year multiple entry visa for China. It will be easier if already got a 1 year multiple entry before. For two year visa you have to leave the passport at the consulate for a week. For one year multiple entry visa you get it the same day.
For business visa you do need an invitation from a Chinese company or Hong Kong company which has a satellite office in China.

Tiger 888
04-12-06, 14:41
You do not need invitations for business visa if you get them in HK. US passport holders need a multiple entry visa or 2 single/double entry F visa in their passport. Other nationalities that don't have reastrictions just need one previous entry into China to get a multiple buiness visa. If in doubt just call Japan travel if not US citizien or Shoestring if US citizien. See my posts in the HK maps section fopr details.

Luvtodine
04-12-06, 15:10
To all pleasure seekers,

I customarily stay at the Nanyuan and can honestly say that I can vouch for all the services provided there.The greatest thing going for it is the value at the massage center located on the 3rd floor within the BBS/beauty salon.A great massge with very happy ending can be had for 480 RMB.The place is totally 5 star and all the girls are experts at HJ.Some better than others but no one would be disappointed as the place is thoroughly spic and span clean and very safe.For a lot more money you can go to the 5th floor SPA and there you have to ask for in room service at which point you can go actually pick out the girls and she caomes to your room after you get back to the room.They all use numbers to be identified and some to not forget are numbers 36,98,27 and 76.All the girls do either BBBJ or CBJ and one of them even gave me BBBJTCIM but I guess I was such a repeat customer that on that night she wanted it as bad as I did.All in all you will not be disappointed with the overall service.Only problem is price.You negociate directly with your date and this is kind of touchy but I have paid as low as 800 to as high as 1500.It seems like the closer you get to 2 AM the cheaper the price gets.Some of the girls will offer MSG and almost all do DATY and many do anal.Quite honestly I come here so often that I always walk out happy in the sense that if one girl lets me down one night then the next night somehow I get a real winner.27 is a real girlfriend experience,she does it all.There is nothing she will not do and she will wear you out.36 is a stunner a real babe with an appetite for real hard sex.She loves it any way you can give it and she really enjoys.She only does CBJ but it is great service.Her pussy is extra tight and she has a great body.Not your typical skinny Chinese girl.This one is more of a Playboy bunny type but with real tits and a great ass.I ate her out for 30 minutes and she wanted more.When I started mish with her she could not get enough.I screwed her hard and she wanted a lot more.Finally I clould not get total satisfaction and she got to work with a great CBJ.Once that wasn't working.She took out the massage oil and then gave me a sensual HJ and made me go to the moon.Best part of all is that this is a babe,a real good looking babe.

Ask me questions and I will try and feed

Prince Leo
04-12-06, 17:56
Why are you posting this on the Classified Ad Section?


To all pleasure seekers,

I customarily stay at the Nanyuan and can honestly say that I can vouch for all the services provided there.The greatest thing going for it is the value at the massage center located on the 3rd floor within the BBS/beauty salon.A great massge with very happy ending can be had for 480 RMB.The place is totally 5 star and all the girls are experts at HJ.Some better than others but no one would be disappointed as the place is thoroughly spic and span clean and very safe.For a lot more money you can go to the 5th floor SPA and there you have to ask for in room service at which point you can go actually pick out the girls and she caomes to your room after you get back to the room.They all use numbers to be identified and some to not forget are numbers 36,98,27 and 76.All the girls do either BBBJ or CBJ and one of them even gave me BBBJTCIM but I guess I was such a repeat customer that on that night she wanted it as bad as I did.All in all you will not be disappointed with the overall service.Only problem is price.You negociate directly with your date and this is kind of touchy but I have paid as low as 800 to as high as 1500.It seems like the closer you get to 2 AM the cheaper the price gets.Some of the girls will offer MSG and almost all do DATY and many do anal.Quite honestly I come here so often that I always walk out happy in the sense that if one girl lets me down one night then the next night somehow I get a real winner.27 is a real girlfriend experience,she does it all.There is nothing she will not do and she will wear you out.36 is a stunner a real babe with an appetite for real hard sex.She loves it any way you can give it and she really enjoys.She only does CBJ but it is great service.Her pussy is extra tight and she has a great body.Not your typical skinny Chinese girl.This one is more of a Playboy bunny type but with real tits and a great ass.I ate her out for 30 minutes and she wanted more.When I started mish with her she could not get enough.I screwed her hard and she wanted a lot more.Finally I clould not get total satisfaction and she got to work with a great CBJ.Once that wasn't working.She took out the massage oil and then gave me a sensual HJ and made me go to the moon.Best part of all is that this is a babe,a real good looking babe.

Ask me questions and I will try and feed

Albert Punter
04-13-06, 07:40
I agree with Prince Leo this is not right thread to post.
However, you moved my curiosity.
Where is the place you mention ?


To all pleasure seekers,

I customarily stay at the Nanyuan and can honestly say that I can vouch for all the services provided there.
Ask me questions and I will try and feed

Luvtodine
04-13-06, 18:10
I am pretty adept at a computer but I guess maybe this one got by me.

Nanyuan is in Ningbo and it is a 5 star hotel there

Prince Leo
04-13-06, 18:19
Which part of China is Nanyuan located at, I do not have the slightest idea. That FR should post at where Nanyuan is located at one of the "All Areas".


I agree with Prince Leo this is not right thread to post.
However, you moved my curiosity.
Where is the place you mention ?

Asiansing
04-14-06, 05:15
Yo guys, just want to ask if anyone here knows where i can get an account for punting. For example sbo or sb1888 etc. Just want to gamble on some balls.

I am located in shanghai and would like to get one account here. Anyone here knows of anyone in china shanghai who is an Agent?

Xrotic
05-14-06, 19:09
Nanyuan is in South Beijing, its where Beijing's second airport is.

Albert Punter
05-16-06, 16:13
Xrotic, thanks for the post but I think I will trust Luvtodine who wrote the original post.


Nanyuan is in South Beijing, its where Beijing's second airport is.


Nanyuan is in Ningbo and it is a 5 star hotel there

Dragon D
05-17-06, 04:01
Heya all,

They are both right. This name is given to two different places in China. One is Beijing and the other is Ningbo.

Dragon D
06-27-06, 06:11
WHY NOT TAKE MY NIGHTLIFE TOUR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO SOLO ....

Want some company in this lonely city after a hard day at work or travel?

If you have ever traveled alone for this type of pleasure, you know how much time and money you can waste just following bum leads, before you find what you want. Sometimes, by the time you do, it is time to leave.

What is true elsewhere is even more true in Shanghai. Mandarin is difficult to learn. You can't just pick-up a book, learn few phrases and be understood. The culture is so different, and the options so vast. In fact, in Shanghai alone, if you went to different erotic establishment every night, including bars, nightclubs, short time motels, street line-up, massage parlors, pick-up joints, escort agencies, it would probably take you over two years. I steer you to the best, and away from the worst.

I make sure you avoid rip-offs, and explain first hand, how everything works and costs.

I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

On my nightlife tours you can relax and concentrate on enjoyment. You will be given detailed instructions, and met in your hotel by a capable nightlife guide, that's me, who can take care of any problems that may rise. I will make sure you are ready for every step you take. No wasting time finding what you came for. No wasting money learning the ropes.

I keep you out of trouble and guide you to happiness. I give you all the help you need, BUT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. You benefit from my years of experience from the very first minute.

And nightlife is not all, during the days, on your stay in Shanghai, I also provide extensive sightseeing of sights and shopping, customized to your needs. You can even bring the girls you meet with you, for the total experience: All without worrying that you are completely on your own, without back-up, thousands of miles from home.





PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

*****

TOUR SERVICES FOR MALE: REGULAR NIGHTLIFE TOUR FOR RMB 1000 PER Guide (Max 3 people per guide)

1. Meeting at the hotel at 20:00, and cruise to dinner and some great erotic establishments, places where you are guaranteed to find a date for the evening
2. Advice on the most interesting places to go to in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation between erotic establishments included
5. Dinner and drinks at a nice Japanese restaurant included


TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SOCIAL TOUR FOR RMB 600 PER Guide

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convenient time, and in-bound social tour cruising to nowhere
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SHOPPING TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR CULTURAL TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included


If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area.

Remember if you don’t like the tour, I also offer discrete escort hotel delivery. Contact me via PM for anything you need.

Special thanks to Jakarta After Dark for allowing me to use his ad as a template.

Yellowfevercn
07-01-06, 06:31
Hi there,

I am living in Shanghai and looking for a place or contact person so I can enjoy a nice and hot 3 some with 2 Chinese beauties.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Sexy Sanya
07-23-06, 10:53
Private Sex Massage Service Customized to Facilitate Your Vacation or Business Trip in Sanya, China. Sex Massage is definitely a great refreshening experience.

Mobile: (+86) 138 7666 7881
Website: http://www.freewebs.com/sexy-sanya/

Csun213
07-24-06, 05:38
Private Sex Massage Service Customized to Facilitate Your Vacation or Business Trip in Sanya, China. Sex Massage is definitely a great refreshening experience.

Mobile: (+86) 138 7666 7881
Website: http://www.freewebs.com/sexy-sanya/

Just to let other members know that the picture of the nude girl is a fake nude of a Taiwan famous model. You are not going to find girl that looks like her. A little bit of false ad.

Old Mean Dog
07-27-06, 04:40
Hello All,

I am a member of this website and a fellow mongerer, I am also the Shenzhen Agent for the oldest and largest International Marriage Agency in the world (since 1974). I live and work here and would like to introduce my services to you.

If you are looking for a Chinese bride, please consider me, I have access to many girls and agencies, not only in Shenzhen but Guangzhou as well. Those of you who have been here, know the problems encountered if you don't speak the language, don't know where to find sincere women, and don't know how to work around the Chinese Marriage Agents.

Not only can I provide sincere girls for you to talk to about a possible marriage, I also will provide you a translator. If you don't live in Shenzhen or Guangzhou, I have access to a car and driver, pickup/drop off service at airport/train station/ferry and I have negotiated a corporate rate at a nice 4 star hotel downtown.

Essentially, I will be your Personal Assistant throughout the process. I am an American and understand the needs and requirements of Western men seeking a foreign bride. I do not represent any girls rather, I work for the male client, so I won't try to pressure you into meeting anyone you don't want too.

Please email me at szassist@gmail.com for future details and my mobile if your interested.

**If your only looking for a quick shag or to play games, please do not contact me, these are sincere girls***

Shekou
08-10-06, 11:36
Dear all,

(Keywords: Shenzhen budget hotel & free sex advise) : www.homtel.ik8.com

Guys who need to have short stay at Shenzhen for days, like 1 week to 1 month or more, I would like to draw your kind attention that here is a budget hotel, which is equal to 3-4 star hotel in quallity but cost you much less.

For sex seeking, either freebie or p4p, free advise which hitting the needle avaialbe, cost your time and expense of uneccessary searching.

Maybe, I said maybe, I can spot you the right gal you like to hire, because the taste is subjective, but for freebie, I can only advise the culture...

Link for the budget hotel (maybe homtel is a more accurate word):

www.homtel.ik8.com

if you can't open the link by clicking it, please open a new IE window and paste the link to the address bar.

B.rgds,

Matcherer

Weelock
08-11-06, 00:25
Not many!!!

No offense to Dragon D, but I would prefer that this site is only for the FREE EXCHANGE of information.

OAH, Cronin, AG and Blacklisted and others have generously shown me around and helped me find girls, they did so strictly as being friends to a stranger. They did not want money in exchange for their help.


I fully agree with this statement. Many are paying members on this forum to obtain free information--Hmm, that didnt sound right but you know what I mean.
Dragon seems to be batting 50/50 as some are for and others against. I dont doubt he provides a service for others but since its a "paid" service, I also agree this discussion should end here and move to the "Classified Ads Section" for anyone interested in further discussion or to hire his services. Lets keep this thread "free" for the rest of us.--IMO

PT

Moved from Travel Plans & Announcements Thread

Suggestion:

A few years ago we were asked to donate ( contribute ) money to Jackson. After that, he started charging subscriptions at $19.95. It takes time and money to run a forum like this. Since "D Dragon" is making money, suggest maybe he can donate some money to keep it going "free". If I'm correct, he makes around 600RMB and the girl only gets 200 per ST transaction, WOW, HUMM? An one way cab ride around Shanghai is around $20 to $35? So the girl makes even less unless she ask for cab fare. In most places the cut is 50/50 split and even less for some mamasan/pimp. I believe if he told the girls what's the split, some of them might kill him.

Anyway I suggest, "Dragon D" will be like a sponsor. People that are too lazy, don't have the time, DON'T Read the Forum First ( RTFF ) and so forth, can be directed to "Dragon D" to use his service in the classified. I like to include any other person advertising on this forum and they should also donate some money. There might be a problem with being legal since he ( Jackson ) might be making money. It might be considered pimping in some countries. For example, I notice some website in Hong Kong are out of business. ie www.best161.com and a few others.

Weelock

PS Wonder if there is a discount for ISG members?

Dragon D
08-11-06, 05:52
Heya,

You guys think to much. I don't charge that much at all. The girls are like girlfriends to me and I don't make a lot of money off them. I try to give them as much as I can to help make their lives better because I care about them. I make enough to pay for taxi and a short time. Now taxi is cheap sometimes. But at night if someone is staying by the airport hotel, sorry, that is like 125 RMB ride for me. I also give girls cab fare home.

So I am not ripping anyone off or making huge profits. If you think there is a lot of money and no risk, try it yourself.

Santa
08-11-06, 06:33
Heya,

You guys think to much. I don't charge that much at all. The girls are like girlfriends to me and I don't make a lot of money off them. I try to give them as much as I can to help make their lives better because I care about them. I make enough to pay for taxi and a short time. Now taxi is cheap sometimes. But at night if someone is staying by the airport hotel, sorry, that is like 125 RMB ride for me. I also give girls cab fare home.

So I am not ripping anyone off or making huge profits. If you think there is a lot of money and no risk, try it yourself.

I don't think you are a bad guy or making lots of money, but I think the majority of the members prefer to think of themselves as "brothers" and don't like the idea of charging each other.

You offer a legitimate service and that's ok.

Don't think we should call you a "pimp" either, I prefer "vaginal consultant".

Tiger 888
08-11-06, 07:18
I don't think you are a bad guy or making lots of money, but I think the majority of the members prefer to think of themselves as "brothers" and don't like the idea of charging each other.

You offer a legitimate service and that's ok.

Don't think we should call you a "pimp" either, I prefer "vaginal consultant".Doesn't "Monger's full service travel agency" sound better?

Dragon D
08-15-06, 05:13
Thanks Santa and Tiger 1 for your comments. I like both names and maybe I should get business cards made up. Met Tiger 1 briefly a while back and I think it is time to meet Santa. So Santa, if your interested in meeting this annyoing Canadian that loves sex and the drink, PM me with a time your free and in the Shanghai area. Also, Tiger 1 look me up too when your next in town, would love to have a few rounds with you too.

Cheers

Momo Chicago
08-16-06, 20:34
Services sound interesting. Do you have anyway to contact you other than PM through this website?

Wish everybody good times in Shanghai.

Dragon D
08-18-06, 04:03
Sorry, the rules of the forum state I am not allowed to give out personal contact info.

If you PM me with your email then I will reply to your email addy.

Cheers

Dragon

Dragon D
08-31-06, 03:55
Having visa problems? Tired of trying to communicate with Chinese agents? Well PM me for all your visa needs.

Attached is a price list and relevant info.



Cheers

Dragon

Dragon D
09-18-06, 04:58
Well to thank my patrons and friends for the continued support, I am having a monthly special.

Feel free to come try my buffet. Three girls one after another for 45 min each and a hotel room for 1000 RMB.

PM me if you are interested in trying.

Doberpit
09-18-06, 05:18
I just want to put my 2 cents (or whatever the local Chinese equivalent is) in on Dragon D. I went to Shanghai for the first time ever a couple of months ago and was completely, totally lost. I really had no clue. So I looked around this forum and contacted a couple of posters who sounded like they knew what they were talking about. Dragon D was the first one to get back to me and although he did charge, I was happy to pay because without his help I would've had a very lonely time in Shanghai.

So I for one appreciated his knowledge of the area and his services. We went out for a beer and hung out too and he is a friendly, good guy.

Also, there used to be a poster here called Asian Gambler who I PM'ed afterwards and he was very helpful as well and sent me a lot of useful info about Shenzen and put me in touch with another knowledgeable poster in Hong Kong (Tiger1) who gave me some great info.

Just wanted to give my thanks to all those guys for making my China business trips a real pleasure.

Bill Lee
09-18-06, 13:57
Couldn't you tell by his posts? AG, I hope I didn't give you up in anyway. But I was wondering myself as to what happened to the evil Asian Gambler when the Ace Gallant suddenly appeared out of nowhere with the same amount of posts and the same amount of wisdom (???hmmmm).

BTW Doberpit, we didn't see your report so your praising (or your other shoutout) of Dragon D (as deserving as it may be) lacks any creditibility without a detailed report of your adventures. So post my friend.

Bill



I just want to put my 2 cents (or whatever the local Chinese equivalent is) in on Dragon D. I went to Shanghai for the first time ever a couple of months ago and was completely, totally lost. I really had no clue. So I looked around this forum and contacted a couple of posters who sounded like they knew what they were talking about. Dragon D was the first one to get back to me and although he did charge, I was happy to pay because without his help I would've had a very lonely time in Shanghai.

So I for one appreciated his knowledge of the area and his services. We went out for a beer and hung out too and he is a friendly, good guy.

Also, there used to be a poster here called Asian Gambler who I PM'ed afterwards and he was very helpful as well and sent me a lot of useful info about Shenzen and put me in touch with another knowledgeable poster in Hong Kong (Tiger1) who gave me some great info.

Just wanted to give my thanks to all those guys for making my China business trips a real pleasure.

Albert Punter
09-19-06, 08:34
Doberpit,

You already posted a couple of months ago an appreciation for Dragon D services (just refer to http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=482195&postcount=6147).

Why posting twice ?

Bill Lee is right, post a report on what happened that night.

Doberpit
09-20-06, 13:22
To be honest with you, I thought my first post never made it here. I didn't realize at the time that each post was screened by the admin, so actually, only now do I realize that this was my second posting.

About what happened that night, well, it was not one night, it was every night. I was staying at the 4 seasons hotel and called D up every night. I tried 5 different girls. There's one that he calls the "Teacher" because she is the one that trains all the new girls. She is not the best looking of the bunch (though not bad looking at all) but she can move something serious. If you want to go with a very experienced girl who knows how to move her body, go with her. The other two nights I tried very new girls, who were much cuter but not nearly as good. The last night I tried two girls at once but would not recommend that (just my preference) because every time you switched, they had to go through this process of cleaning you up and recapping your little guy, which is definitely the safe way to go and I appreciate the safety, but it really interrupts your play.

If I go to Shanghai again, I look forward to seeing the teacher again.

Old Mean Dog
09-20-06, 17:04
I would like to add that if anyone is coming to Shezhen for business or pleasure, and is in need of an Interpreter or Personal Assistant, please let me know. I have a few girls working with me who are professional, well educated, and speak good if not fluent English. Sorry, these girls are not "Pay to Play".

If your planning to relocate to Shenzhen, I can take the hassle out of getting what you need so that you have a smooth transition into China. You can visit my website at www.szassist.com (cannot access within China, it's grouped with other sites) for more details.

Finally, as stated in an earlier post, if your looking for a sincere Chinese wife, please contact me. I am the agent here for the oldest and one of the largest International Marriage Agencies in the world. I have access to over 1,000 girls in Shenzhen alone, with many more in Gunagzhou and various other places throughout China.

PM me for more details and prices.

Bill Lee
09-21-06, 00:47
you couldn't post the contact information or more details, or it would cut Dragon D out of the picture? No names of the girls that didn't meet up with the standards?

Something that we can use next time we call up?

Bill


To be honest with you, I thought my first post never made it here. I didn't realize at the time that each post was screened by the admin, so actually, only now do I realize that this was my second posting.

About what happened that night, well, it was not one night, it was every night. I was staying at the 4 seasons hotel and called D up every night. I tried 5 different girls. There's one that he calls the "Teacher" because she is the one that trains all the new girls. She is not the best looking of the bunch (though not bad looking at all) but she can move something serious. If you want to go with a very experienced girl who knows how to move her body, go with her. The other two nights I tried very new girls, who were much cuter but not nearly as good. The last night I tried two girls at once but would not recommend that (just my preference) because every time you switched, they had to go through this process of cleaning you up and recapping your little guy, which is definitely the safe way to go and I appreciate the safety, but it really interrupts your play.

If I go to Shanghai again, I look forward to seeing the teacher again.

Csun213
09-21-06, 03:39
Finally, as stated in an earlier post, if your looking for a sincere Chinese wife, please contact me. I am the agent here for the oldest and one of the largest International Marriage Agencies in the world. I have access to over 1,000 girls in Shenzhen alone, with many more in Gunagzhou and various other places throughout China.

PM me for more details and prices.

Is there a website where we can see pictures of the girls?

Old Mean Dog
09-21-06, 10:05
Has anyone used the Visa Service like Dragon D has mentioned ? (Not specifically his, but any of the ones in Hong Kong or whatever which supposedly can get business visa's or whatnot for long-term stay in China) I want to go to China and hunt for a job, but it is hard as hell if I have the 30 day tourist visa and then get booted! It would feel much more comfortable if I could get 3-4 months minimum, just move in get settled, and THEN worry about job hunt. So anyone who's had experience: please advise me. I'm interested in flying into Hong Kong and getting any sort of visa that will let me stay long-term on the mainland.If your from the USA, just obtain one before you leave from one of the agencies on the internet. I got a 3 month single entry "L" Visa before I came over and it cost me $50 USD. You can obtain a visa in HK, but if your an American, there's a different requirement for us as well as a higher price.

PM me if you want some links to some companies in HK.

Doberpit
09-21-06, 14:21
I don't speak any flavor of Chinese at all. None of the girls spoke even a little bit of English, so even if I had their numbers, which I could've gotten, I wouldn't be able to tell them simple things like "come over at so and so time" or "I'm at the 4 seasons" or even "hey it's me from the other night" or anything. I couldn't even communicate with the cabbies while I was in Shanghai. So for a guy like me, having a local "guide" was invaluable. May not be the case for many of you, but for me, I could not monger alone. The girls were from some BBS in the Village (I think that's where he took me, based on the forum descriptions). Even if I would've made my way there, I wouldn't be able to tell the manager that I wanted to take them back to the hotel. Like I said, I was really lost.

Csun213
09-21-06, 18:42
I don't speak any flavor of Chinese at all. None of the girls spoke even a little bit of English, so even if I had their numbers, which I could've gotten, I wouldn't be able to tell them simple things like "come over at so and so time" or "I'm at the 4 seasons" or even "hey it's me from the other night" or anything. I couldn't even communicate with the cabbies while I was in Shanghai. So for a guy like me, having a local "guide" was invaluable. May not be the case for many of you, but for me, I could not monger alone. The girls were from some BBS in the Village (I think that's where he took me, based on the forum descriptions). Even if I would've made my way there, I wouldn't be able to tell the manager that I wanted to take them back to the hotel. Like I said, I was really lost.

Language should not be a big problem. For the BBS, just bring a card for your hotel, then show the mamason your card and point at the girl. She will know what you mean. As for girls coming back to your room, it would not be hard for her to understand a call from a foreigner, telling her time, hotel name and room number. Don't worry too much because all the girls know what you want. They are not there to talk with you.

OldAsiaHand
09-22-06, 04:56
Doperpit,

I am not sure if I should be posting my POV on this thread, but am sure Jackon will delete it if it is not appropriate.

As you may know, I and others on this forum are in favor of free sharing of information to help other mongers visiting China. I normally get a huge welcome and all the help I need from ISG members whenever I travel. Case in point is my visit to Shanghai last week when fellow members went out of their way to show me around for free, every night.

Regarding the language issue, I am certain one of the Shanghai based members would help you for free, as well, either in person or by providing translation help over the phone if you PM them in advance of your arrival. And, as Csun says, body language can be used and understood. I'm sure you are not the first laowai to visit a BBS in the Village.

Having said all that, you are not the first to praise DragonD on a job well done. Jackson has ruled and allows him to pimp on the board. I have my own opinions on the subject but have agreed that I will not express them any further.

If you get down South, just drop me a PM.

OAH





I don't speak any flavor of Chinese at all. None of the girls spoke even a little bit of English, so even if I had their numbers, which I could've gotten, I wouldn't be able to tell them simple things like "come over at so and so time" or "I'm at the 4 seasons" or even "hey it's me from the other night" or anything. I couldn't even communicate with the cabbies while I was in Shanghai. So for a guy like me, having a local "guide" was invaluable. May not be the case for many of you, but for me, I could not monger alone. The girls were from some BBS in the Village (I think that's where he took me, based on the forum descriptions). Even if I would've made my way there, I wouldn't be able to tell the manager that I wanted to take them back to the hotel. Like I said, I was really lost.

Doberpit
09-22-06, 07:13
I will take you up next time I am in Shanghai. THAT SAID, I PM'ed several people when I was in Shanghai and nobody responded to me other than Dragon D, who responded immediately and I was grateful for it, and Asian Gambler, who must've been busy and responded several days later. Nobody else responded. Had I received help, I might've tried a different route but I was pleased with my stay and felt D deserved credit. AG was very helpful, but unfortunately, I had to leave the next day after he replied to me.

BTW, I am not faulting anybody for not replying to me that time. I too would be wary of helping some random guy who was new to the forums if he PM'ed me asking for info.

csun, thanks for the tips man. Like I said, it was my first time in Shanghai (actually, my first time ever in China) and I had no clue. I stumbled on this board through Google the day before my trip.

Dragon D
09-25-06, 08:09
Heya,

Thanks for the mention. Hope to see you again soon. Really though, some of you guys make it sound a lot easier than it is for a lao wai to move around Shanghai for take out. Many people that have been ripped off come to me for safety. Easier also to communicate between two lao wai and not get something unexpected.

Dragon D
09-25-06, 08:11
Just finished negotiations with a doctor in town to do house calls for those of us who need help curing STD's or other medical problems but don't want to go to the hospital and line up to try and explain to the doc what you have.

Please PM me if you ever need medical services in Shanghai.

Chopsuey
09-25-06, 18:51
$ 100, 000. 00 US cash required to develop high end combo sauna and club. The concept is to combine an excellent massage and have the ladies provide options to the guest. No pressure, just a quality massage with a nice personal experience between the two people after the massage at thier option.

First location would be either in Shenzhen or Zhuhai.

As an added benefit, frequent visitors to the sauna/massage club can acquire VIP status and receive an offshore debit visa or master card.

We will consider partial investments in increments of $ 25, 000. 00 and are offering a short term return of $ 50, 000. 00 on a proportionate basis.

A confidentiality agreement is required. For details please send an email to [Email address deleted by Admin]

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

Lao Ma
09-25-06, 22:03
It's easy for a laowei to have a great time in Shanghai. I don't care if the most chinese thing you've ever had before arriving was the orange chicken at Panda Express. It's easy.

Dragon D, more power to ya man, but there is simply no need to plant seeds of doubt in first timers minds. I've allready expressed my views on the proper title for what you do, so I won't go there, but don't go shilling your services by raising the anxiety level of visitors to the middle kingdom.

Chopsuey
09-26-06, 02:20
You should be able to send me a private email message within 24 hours through this system. Thank you for your interst!

Ticktock
09-26-06, 04:50
Same as Chopsuey. Just add some more zeroes.

Old Mean Dog
09-26-06, 10:36
Greetings Everyone,

After researching a bit and seeing the necessarity for somewhat larger Condoms,
I have decided to start a mailorder business for condoms.

The Durex Condoms sold in Hong Kong and the ones sold in the US are not the same (see attached pictures).

I sell Condoms imported from the US and send them out in a pack of 12 by neutral airmail letter.

Prices are as follows:
Durex Natural Feeling 5.80 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex Extra Senitive 6.00 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex High Sensation 6.20 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex Performa 6.60 US$/ Bag of 12
Crown Skinless Skin 6.00 US$/ Bag of 12

Expiry between December 2009 and May 2011, depending on the model.

A range of "Comdomi" condoms including fruit flavoured will follow in a week.
Including silicone based lube in 2ml pouches (packed like the condoms).

Worldwide free shipping!

PM me your email address and order, I then will request a payment through Paypal (I am a long time verified member with Paypal) and ship instantly on receiving the payment.

An online store and a website will follow soon.

Condoms OnlineDoes that price include the shipping charges?

Le Mulo
09-26-06, 12:19
Thank you helluv idea


Greetings Everyone,

After researching a bit and seeing the necessarity for somewhat larger Condoms,
I have decided to start a mailorder business for condoms.

The Durex Condoms sold in Hong Kong and the ones sold in the US are not the same (see attached pictures).

I sell Condoms imported from the US and send them out in a pack of 12 by neutral airmail letter.

Prices are as follows:
Durex Natural Feeling 5.80 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex Extra Senitive 6.00 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex High Sensation 6.20 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex Performa 6.60 US$/ Bag of 12
Crown Skinless Skin 6.00 US$/ Bag of 12

Expiry between December 2009 and May 2011, depending on the model.

A range of "Comdomi" condoms including fruit flavoured will follow in a week.
Including silicone based lube in 2ml pouches (packed like the condoms).

Worldwide free shipping!

PM me your email address and order, I then will request a payment through Paypal (I am a long time verified member with Paypal) and ship instantly on receiving the payment.

An online store and a website will follow soon.

Condoms Online

Petemcc
09-26-06, 13:02
Greetings Everyone,

After researching a bit and seeing the necessarity for somewhat larger Condoms,
I have decided to start a mailorder business for condoms.

The Durex Condoms sold in Hong Kong and the ones sold in the US are not the same (see attached pictures).

I sell Condoms imported from the US and send them out in a pack of 12 by neutral airmail letter.

Prices are as follows:
Durex Natural Feeling 5.80 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex Extra Senitive 6.00 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex High Sensation 6.20 US$/ Bag of 12
Durex Performa 6.60 US$/ Bag of 12
Crown Skinless Skin 6.00 US$/ Bag of 12

Expiry between December 2009 and May 2011, depending on the model.

A range of "Comdomi" condoms including fruit flavoured will follow in a week.
Including silicone based lube in 2ml pouches (packed like the condoms).

Worldwide free shipping!

PM me your email address and order, I then will request a payment through Paypal (I am a long time verified member with Paypal) and ship instantly on receiving the payment.

An online store and a website will follow soon.

Condoms OnlineSounds like a good idea to me. I was only in China briefly, and didn't expect to do as many girls as I did- but that's the way it goes. Anyway, a few times they tried to put a condom on and it was like putting a size 8 foot into a size 6 shoe, so I used my own. Seriously, my last few days of mongering were restricted by the availability of my condoms, otherwise I would have definitely paid for 2 pops with some of the girls. I hadn't a clue where or how to buy them in China, and obviously only being there for a week this mail order would have been no use to me, but I reckon if you are there for a long time it may be a good option!

Just MHO,

Pete

Cebu Local
09-26-06, 23:51
I know Condoms Online real life and I can vouch that he is a reliable HK based businessman doing this as a sideline and this is NOT Dragon D under another nickname.Cheers

Ace Gallant
09-27-06, 13:32
Worldwide free shipping! This is not about getting rich, but solving problems. I don't need to make a living out of it.

For the Shanghai, guys who are interested, I will be getting a bag from Condoms Online for you guys to test out after the October National Holidays. Please contact me via PM.

AG

Chopsuey
10-09-06, 19:02
One of our Chinese attorneys has offered us an opportunity to acquire a "motel" which is currently under construction in a Southeastern Chinese city. It's approximately 40 units. An ideal size for a Love Hotel concept.

We have not yet said yes nor have we done our due diligence on the site or the market or what if any additional licensing requirements we will have to deal with.

However we are aware of the fact that many Japanese investors like the returns not to mention the benefits that come from the ownership and operation of a love hotel.

We can bring in the larger dollars to cover the acquisition, fit out and working capital to bring the deal to the table turnkey. We estimate that our costs inclusive of legal prior to closing will be in the range of $ 100,000.00 and can offer a nice premium for the use of that cash or a portion of it on a proportionate basis.

So if you would like to become involved either as a limited partner or in some other capacity active or passive please send me a private email message and let me know what you can bring to the table and we can discuss the opportunity.

This advertisement is for information purposes only and is not an offering of securities.

Erik
10-10-06, 11:34
Nice one. Chopsuy, are you Nigerian or mixed Nigerian and Hongkonguese blood ?

Tiger 888
10-10-06, 16:53
Nice one. Chopsuy, are you Nigerian or mixed Nigerian and Hongkonguese blood ?If he was Nigerian the sum would be at least 20000000.

Lao Ma
10-10-06, 19:03
Last month, it was a combination sauna/health club. This month, it's a love hotel. As impressive as your portfolio is so far, I think I'll wait until your next fleecing project hits. Wonder what that will be.... hmmm.... why not a franchised model for a multi-city brothel ? If you build it, they will come

Chopsuey
10-11-06, 02:44
Lao Ma,

Your statement has no credibility whatsoever. In any investment it is prudent to have an exit strategy as well as to understand how and why the deal comes together and how the parties interests can be protected.

That all starts with the appropriate disclosure to a qualified party.

With specific reference to a love hotel concept, they can be very profitable if properly run and managed which is why the Japanese love to invest in them.

As that concept relates to the China market, there is a tremendous need for 3 and 4 star hotels in China and there are some excellent in fill opportunities in key markets as well as secondary markets within China. Every real estate transaction stands on its own merits, and is supported by professional due diligence.

Send me a private email and I will send you a confidentiality agreement and then I can disclose to you the particular market, the strategy and you can make an informed decision as to whether or not you wish to proceed.

Ace Gallant
10-11-06, 10:30
Lao Ma,

Your statement has no credibility whatsoever. In any investment it is prudent to have an exit strategy as well as to understand how and why the deal comes together and how the parties interests can be protected.

That all starts with the appropriate disclosure to a qualified party.

With specific reference to a love hotel concept, they can be very profitable if properly run and managed which is why the Japanese love to invest in them.

As that concept relates to the China market, there is a tremendous need for 3 and 4 star hotels in China and there are some excellent in fill opportunities in key markets as well as secondary markets within China. Every real estate transaction stands on its own merits, and is supported by professional due diligence.

Send me a private email and I will send you a confidentiality agreement and then I can disclose to you the particular market, the strategy and you can make an informed decision as to whether or not you wish to proceed.


CS,

Although this is a good ideal as a business opportunity, but I tend to agree with Lao Ma and Erik. This is an open forum, 99% of the members are just a handle on the forum. We do not know each other. How would anyone trust that this offer is genuine? Of course there are some members on ISG whom you may have met and known personally; but in that case, why will you offer such a great business opportunity to all of us who are basically strangers to you? Shouldn’t you be directly offering this opportunity to those you know?

Your statement about Lao Ma's words "Your statement has no credibility whatsoever." my POV: Lao Ma been around ISG long enough and had posted some very good post, to have much more credibility than you who had only joint in Sept this year and has only 6 posts to your account. for those members like me who do not know neither Lao Ma nor you, who do you think we would trust?

Too many unknown, too uncertain, nobody will wants to part with their money like that. Even if the investment cost is only One American Dollar.

However; I still thinks it is a good ideal about Love Hotel though.

Thanks for the offer anyways.
Wish you luck in your venture.
AG

Albert Punter
10-11-06, 12:11
Do you really mean "exit" or "escape" instead ?
Escaping with some other people's money, of course.

Sorry for being sarcastic, but your posts are too similar to many we receive in our e-mail boxes daily.

The best of luck to your project.




.... exit strategy ....

Chopsuey
10-11-06, 18:18
Regardless of what is being presented by whom, there is a process that is involved. With respect to the Love Hotel concept and the presentation of the opportunity here, the other side of that issue is that I have absolutely no idea of the demographics or the metrics of this particular site and how those metrics relate to those demographics. So from that point of view, the presentation of that opportunity is designed to trigger a response from a potentially qualified party.

No one expects solely on the basis of a post to say, "gee that sounds great, here is my $ 100,000.00 where do I send it"? That is not how the process works.

1. If is a person is interested, they respond through a private email message.

2. As a result of that private email message being received, communications between the parties will begin outside of this forum and without having to go through an email filter through this forum.

3. On the basis of private communications between the parties, a confidentiality agreement will be entered into between the parties which will enable appropriate and mutual disclosure to occur.

4. Based on the discussions between the parties appropriate documentation follows.

There is no mystery to the process and that is why comments such as "PT
Barnum" or "escaping with the money" are totally inappropriate, are insulting as well as have no credibility.

Lao Ma
10-11-06, 19:56
Agree with AG and AP - wish you luck ChopSuey, of course. But your lack of business sense is apparent, and my bs meter is flashing at me. You want to throw out a business phrase like "exit strategy", when you are primarily asking for debt, not equity. Debt doesn't care about exit strategy, it cares about loan terms. That kills your street cred - right out of the gate. That you tried to solicit big bucks for another venture less than 60 days ago tells me that you don't know what you are planning to do, all you want is to fish for suckers with money.

Again, good luck with this, and I don't mean to sound like a jerk. But as a businessman, I for the life of me cannot see why you are soliciting for funding on a website for mongers. If you are for real, I suggest you learn a little about the process of raising funds.

You say send you an email and you will allow me to make an informed decision. Dude, my informed decision was made the moment I read your post.

Chopsuey
10-12-06, 00:09
Lao Ma, If you wish to make a decision on an investment opportunity based solely on what you can find on the internet than I suggest you confine your investment activities to that information that pertains solely to public companies or mutual funds,etc. There are plenty of credible web based stock screeners for example where you can plug in your investment criteria and then follow up with a stock broker either in person, over the phone or via the web. I am sure you can find a qualified broker dealer and a registered representative that would be happy to take your order and follow your wishes.

However investing privately requires a different set of analytics and a total picture to make an informed decision. Its not for everybody.

As to why I posted this Love Hotel concept as well as another and presumably a future investment opportunity here, it is for the simple reason that this forum presents an opportunity for both a qualified investor as well as for me to possibly meet and perhaps develop a mutually beneficial long term relationship that would go beyond any one particular investment opportunity.

Cebu Local
10-12-06, 00:09
One of our Chinese attorneys has offered us an opportunity to acquire a "motel" which is currently under construction in a Southeastern Chinese city. It's approximately 40 units. An ideal size for a Love Hotel concept.

We have not yet said yes nor have we done our due diligence on the site or the market or what if any additional licensing requirements we will have to deal with.

However we are aware of the fact that many Japanese investors like the returns not to mention the benefits that come from the ownership and operation of a love hotel.

We can bring in the larger dollars to cover the acquisition, fit out and working capital to bring the deal to the table turnkey. We estimate that our costs inclusive of legal prior to closing will be in the range of $ 100,000.00 and can offer a nice premium for the use of that cash or a portion of it on a proportionate basis.

So if you would like to become involved either as a limited partner or in some other capacity active or passive please send me a private email message and let me know what you can bring to the table and we can discuss the opportunity.

This advertisement is Ifor information purposes only and is not an offering of securities.Real Life I am a Philippine Based Travel Agent and part owner in 2 Philippine hotels.I have been doing business in China regularly and I personally know many Chinese Hotel Chain owners such as Mitch Presnick who owns Super 8 China,Harry Tan Days Inn China,Wilbert Chang Howard Johnson China etc.All thanks to My Chinese fiance.So I have had many talks with them and somewhat familiar with the process.The regularatory and permit process is such that,You cannot survive openly as a pure lovel motel.You will be shut down Immediately.This may work in Japan But not China,You have to be viable as a motel and look at short term guests as gravy.
Look at the Zhuhai Conference center hotel,The site of the Infamous Japanese Sex orgy.I believe the manager got 8 years for allowing his hotel to be used for a sex orgy.I believe a person who openly runs a love hotel could also face a couple of years as a "guest"of the state.AS A HOTELIER IMHO THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AND IS JUST LIKE INVESTING IN FLORIDA SWAMP LAND OR NIGERIAN BANK DEPOSITS.EVEN IF THE MOTEL IS LEGITEMATE,IT CANNOT BE RUN AS A LOVE HOTEL OPENLY

Bill Lee
10-12-06, 01:32
For most of us who don't even put up the $19.95 per year, you expect more than that from people on this board?

You really are on the wrong board for investment seekers.

Obviously, your prior posts and this post really makes you out to be scammer.

You should be expelled from even making such offers to us.

Bill



Lao Ma, If you wish to make a decision on an investment opportunity based solely on what you can find on the internet than I suggest you confine your investment activities to that information that pertains solely to public companies or mutual funds,etc. There are plenty of credible web based stock screeners for example where you can plug in your investment criteria and then follow up with a stock broker either in person, over the phone or via the web. I am sure you can find a qualified broker dealer and a registered representative that would be happy to take your order and follow your wishes.

However investing privately requires a different set of analytics and a total picture to make an informed decision. Its not for everybody.

As to why I posted this Love Hotel concept as well as another and presumably a future investment opportunity here, it is for the simple reason that this forum presents an opportunity for both a qualified investor as well as for me to possibly meet and perhaps develop a mutually beneficial long term relationship that would go beyond any one particular investment opportunity.

Chopsuey
10-12-06, 01:44
Well at least what Cebu had to say made the most sense. Thank you Cebu, I appreciate your feedback. Have a great day!

Juno Audio
10-12-06, 04:26
Guys, don't you wish we have a "spam" button here? LOL

Ace Gallant
10-12-06, 04:32
Guys, don't you wish we have a "spam" button here? LOL

Well... its the Classified Ads thread here... members are allowed to post whatever they think they can pull off in this thread, but it is up to you to believe it. If you get conned by Ads posted in here, you have yourself to blame.

AG

Blacklisted
10-12-06, 06:02
Maybe he truly 'believes' in what he is doing and is not a legitimate spammer/scammer.

But if that is the case, then the only alternative assessment is that he is stupid.

Thanks for the offer, Chopsuey, but you are unfortunately on the wrong board. I suggest a better audience for you might be in the Phils Fight Club thread. It's full of idiotic knobs with nothing better to do and they are certainly of the right intelligence level to proceed with your most generous offer.

But, oh yes, best of British luck old boy!

Santa
10-12-06, 08:28
OK, so the majority consensus is, Chopsuey has a bad business sense, bad idea or has a scam. Of course, sometimes the majority is wrong and he will someday make a lot of money. Maybe in ten years from now there will be chains of successfull love hotels in China, and Chopsuey will say "I told you so".

I also think he is inexperienced and has a pipe dream that goes nowhere, but I have been wrong before. However, I always admire a person who is looking for an opportunity and willing to give it a try.

Anybody have other ideas for investment opportunities in China?

Anybody want to recommend an investment? Stock? Business idea?

For example, the government in Beijing says they want to open hundreds of health clinics around China to combat STDs. Where is that going? Any investment opportunities there? Would the government in Beijing be willing to finance a joint venture to get the job done?

Would a charitable organization such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, or the Bill Clinton Foundation, be willing to help finance a private for profit company that would provide health services? www.clintonfoundation.org

PM me if you have any ideas but prefer not to post on the forum.

Albert Punter
10-12-06, 11:12
Are we sure we can post here ads concerning any type of product ?

Or, shall we post forum related ads ONLY, like for example escort services, clubs, pimp services, condoms, etc. ?



Well... its the Classified Ads thread here... members are allowed to post whatever they think they can pull off in this thread, but it is up to you to believe it. If you get conned by Ads posted in here, you have yourself to blame.

AG

Ace Gallant
10-12-06, 11:59
Are we sure we can post here ads concerning any type of product ?

Or, shall we post forum related ads ONLY, like for example escort services, clubs, pimp services, condoms, etc. ?

I had checked with Jackson, he said its ok.

But Choyshui; don't be too happy yet: If you go beyond that, its easy to ask Jackson to remove your post.

AG

Jumbo88
10-13-06, 06:02
Guys,

Just got back from a trip to Taiwan. The love hotel/motel business in Taiwan is booming! My friend, who runs a cchain in taiwan, had a discussion with me. Their main concern is the about the right of the customers. In taiwan, the police can not enter the motel/hotel rooms without search warrant. Unlike in China, police may enter any hotel rooms without search warrant. He has presented me with this scenario:

Let's say he opened a extravagant love hotel (of course taking care of the local gavernment's GUANXI). The business begin to boom. Some local chinese guy (with better connection w/government) sees that it's a winnner, he in turns open a same style place. The local guy ask the local LE to harass my friend's place in other to compete for business... What then?

I still think that there is a huge demand for such place (even just for lovers and married couples).

Just some of my thoughts.

Dragon D
10-20-06, 07:34
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I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

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PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

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4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

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1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

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1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
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3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included


If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area.

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Dragon D
10-20-06, 07:37
Have any problems with your visa for example it expired or you have a company that is threatening you with taking your visa away or you are in a remote are where there is no visa service available then PM me. I can handdle Chinese visa extensions no matter where in China you are and keep you safe and sound in the country without worrying about anything.

Ace Gallant
10-20-06, 07:44
Have any problems with your visa for example it expired or you have a company that is threatening you with taking your visa away or you are in a remote are where there is no visa service available then PM me. I can handdle Chinese visa extensions no matter where in China you are and keep you safe and sound in the country without worrying about anything.

Dragon maybe you should add an additional service:

Converting USA driver's license to local driving permit without going though the stupid test! Can you imagine a person with 30 years driving experience have to sit though a stupid local chinese driving test just to convert it?

AG

Santa
10-20-06, 07:59
Classic cars. I can provide you with an e-mail address of an honest and reliable classic car mechanic, in the USA, who will find you the perfect honey mobile. Ferrari, E type Jag, Mercedes, Rolls, Bentley, etc.

Highend expensive classics only.

We can help you find your favourite car, provide a professional inspection, and help you negotiate a good price. Can help with delivery to Asia.

Tiger 888
10-20-06, 08:48
dragon maybe you should add an additional service:

converting usa driver's license to local driving permit without going though the stupid test! can you imagine a person with 30 years driving experience have to sit though a stupid local chinese driving test just to convert it?

agdid you have to drive? when i made the test a couple of years back, there was a multiple choice test in the computer where you could alter the answers until the computer said: "80% reached". of course within the time limit. a few difficult wuestions about legal issues, but i manged to learn that all in 30 mins then passed the test because i didn't want to go back there a second time.

then the health test was somewhat funny, with several fun fair like machines to test reaction and visibility, judgement of speed and so on.

Mac 2
10-20-06, 09:39
did you have to drive? when i made the test a couple of years back, there was a multiple choice test in the computer where you could alter the answers until the computer said: "80% reached". of course within the time limit. a few difficult wuestions about legal issues, but i manged to learn that all in 30 mins then passed the test because i didn't want to go back there a second time.

then the health test was somewhat funny, with several fun fair like machines to test reaction and visibility, judgement of speed and so on.i could choose between paper a or b. each of it had 10 questions with 3 answers and only one of them was right. just needed a pen and finished it in 5 minutes. all was in english. this was in 1998.

i already wanted to do it in 1996 when i moved to china, but at that time they only offered it in chinese and i couldn't speak, read and write this language and they didn't allow any interpreter. (it took me 5 years to read and write. a lot of sleepless nights.)

anyways, 2 months ago a friend of mine did the same test and it looked like that these were still the same questions according to what he explained to me.

my friends at the psb told me that this varies from city to city what kind of tests will be done.

guangzhou still seems to be the easiest option.

if anyone needs further info, let me know.

oah, i assume that u also made ur test in gz.

what was your experience?

mac

Nightwing88
10-20-06, 12:24
did you have to drive? when i made the test a couple of years back, there was a multiple choice test in the computer where you could alter the answers until the computer said: "80% reached". of course within the time limit. a few difficult wuestions about legal issues, but i manged to learn that all in 30 mins then passed the test because i didn't want to go back there a second time.

then the health test was somewhat funny, with several fun fair like machines to test reaction and visibility, judgement of speed and so on.you're lucky you took the test before. i just took the test last month. the written test (in shanghai) is 100 questions long, and you have to get 90% or better in order to pass. what made the test interesting is that they gave you all of the questions and answers beforehand... you then just needed to memorize most of the answers before going into the test itself.

nightwing

OldAsiaHand
10-21-06, 04:18
OAH, I assume that u also made ur test in GZ.

What was your experience?

MAC

Mac,

For my first license, I paid 2,600 RMB to a friend in GZ and did not have to take any test. This was a Hainan license. A police friend looked at it one time and told me that it may be a fake though. Anyway, I kept it until it expired without incident.

For my second license, I went to a company across the street from the Holiday Inn on HuangShi Lu in Guangzhou. I paid 1,600 RMB and only had to take the written test in English. The company provided a car with a driver and one staff to bring me to the place. They gave me all the answers which I just brought with me and copied over. One of the test monitors even asked me if I needed any help. The whole thing only took a couple of hours. PM me if you want the GZ company details.

There is also one company offering drivers license service at the Huanggang border in Shenzhen. They wanted 2,500 if I remember correctly. If you turn right after the immigration check, you can find the counter all the way at the end before the restrooms. They tried to tell me why theirs was better than mine, but I could not really understand the reasoning.

If you want to go through the hassle, you can do it on the cheap. I think the whole thing costs less than 100 RMB if you go there, wait in lines, take the written test, stay over, take the driving test, etc. It was just not worth the trouble to me for 1,600 RMB.

OAH

Ace Gallant
10-21-06, 05:09
Wadman told me that there is a "agent" in Hong Kong that offer a service where they will get you a China driver's license without taking the test. He got his through tha agent by paying 5000RMB and it lasts for 6 years. I took a look at the license and it is the real thing. He did said the agent is located somewhere near in Hongkong where you obtain the Visa for China. I thought it is likely to be one of the "Side-lines" of the government departments... Wadman you king enough to comment?

AG

Cebu Local
10-22-06, 00:24
Wadman told me that there is a "agent" in Hong Kong that offer a service where they will get you a China driver's license without taking the test. He got his through tha agent by paying 5000RMB and it lasts for 6 years. I took a look at the license and it is the real thing. He did said the agent is located somewhere near in Hongkong where you obtain the Visa for China. I thought it is likely to be one of the "Side-lines" of the government departments... Wadman you king enough to comment?

AGYour license is issued by a PSB in some obscure province nearby.Shanghai gets served by Anhui Guangdong usually gets issued Hunan or Jiangxi.The service fee pays for you supposedly to have taken and passed the exam there.It is a good source of extra income for junior and medium level people.

Ace Gallant
10-30-06, 09:45
Today I received a bag full of Condoms Shipped from Hong Kong courtesy of Condom Online. I had taken out a few to compare with the local ones and had verified that they are indeed bigger and wider.

For those in Shanghai / Shenzhen / Zhuhai / Beijing who are interested to sample these condoms, please PM me. They are free of charge but you will have to put up a post on ISG to feedback upon completion of testing these Condoms.

Enjoy Shagging with these new Condoms!
AG

Disclaimer: I am not a sales agent of Condom Online nor am I advertising on his behalf. I am only helping him to distribute those free samples for all of you fellow members. Any further orders please PM Condom Online directly.

Old Mean Dog
10-30-06, 14:24
Today I received a bag full of Condoms Shipped from Hong Kong courtesy of Condom Online. I had taken out a few to compare with the local ones and had verified that they are indeed bigger and wider.

For those in Shanghai / Shenzhen / Zhuhai / Beijing who are interested to sample these condoms, please PM me. They are free of charge but you will have to put up a post on ISG to feedback upon completion of testing these Condoms.

Enjoy Shagging with these new Condoms!

AG

Disclaimer: I am not a sales agent of Condom Online nor am I advertising on his behalf. I am only helping him to distribute those free samples for all of you fellow members. Any further orders please PM Condom Online directly.I agree, I purchased 2 dozen from him and have been doing some serious research with them. Very good, bigger, wider and many selections to choose from. Quit using cheap condoms the girls have or buying the XS versions in the shops here and get some good ones!!

Midea
11-08-06, 02:17
I passed in total legality my driving license in 2005 in GZ Guangdong, grand total cost of 1800RMB and I do not read a damn word or Chinese.

We went to the one and only place for Car business procedures in Guangzhou, actually a bit off town.

We started the usual paper work, passport, visa, residence book, pics, 20 minutes passed, then the medical took 01 minutes, then came the 100 questions test, however my interpreter -which I paid 1600- gave all the answers, A = Apple, B = Boy, C = Cut,.

2 weeks later, he delivered to my home a genuine Chinese Driving License, with a 6 years validation.

PS1 - You need a valid driving license from your own country.

PS2 - Not sorry to read that you have paid 5000RMB, moreover I trust that when guys pay 800RMB and even more for a girl, 5000RMB for a driving license is pocket change for most of you.

Alex Rock
11-10-06, 20:11
I passed in total legality my driving license in 2005 in GZ Guangdong, grand total cost of 1800RMB
You paid way too much. I got mine for 50RMB

GlenEagle
11-11-06, 00:50
Midea,

Are you trying to share your knowledge with the board on how to get a Chinese driving licence or telling the board that how smart you are to get your Chinese licence for RMB 1800 while others are paying a few extra thousands RMB.

For the same legal Chinese licence, I only spent RMB 200 (RM 40 for the photographs to be used for the tests, RMB 60 for the medical tests and RMB 100 for the 100 questions theory test) while you have to spend RMB 1800. I believe you are going to tell me that you have to pay/bribe someone to provide you the answers to the 100 questions theory test which are in Chinese.

I don't understand Chinese too but do you know that the 100 questions test is also available in English. When you are registering for the test, inform the counter that you want to take the test in English. Tell them that you will take the test among the last few candidates, also requests for a copy of the questions in English to go through. If you are an experienced driver, you need less than an hour to digest those questions.

I also had my test in Year 2005.

GlenEagle

Ace Gallant
11-11-06, 06:22
You paid way too much. I got mine for 50RMB

I think you might have miss a zero.

I know of a guy, (whiteman) who speaks perfect Chinese and will take the place for you to take the driving test for 500RMB. The license will be issued to your name in your passport.

But again, this is China! anything is possible with Money!

AG

Tiger 888
11-11-06, 08:55
I think you might have miss a zero.

I know of a guy, (whiteman) who speaks perfect Chinese and will take the place for you to take the driving test for 500RMB. The license will be issued to your name in your passport.

But again, this is China! anything is possible with Money!

AGMine was a coulpe of hundreds in 2001. I think 300+.
But it is issued in my chinese name only, (Which I chose) and my passport number.

Midea
11-13-06, 04:13
My bad. I passed mine in summer 2004.

In GZ there were no test available in English. And I trust that their is still no English test available in 2006.

I am confident that what ever I paid was OK at that time, knowing that

1) Mine is 100% genuine,
2) Yes, we had to bribe the test responsible as he immediately noticed what we were up to... Actually, I recollect one candidate completing about us…

One African male was in the room (we were +/- 40) and he passed the entire text in Chinese characters.

I think that the original price in GZ is 500RMB.

You might have got a DMV license for 50 or 200kuais.

The day you will unfortunately get involved in an accident, and that the cops will run your license on their computer, you will learn (the hard way) if yours is a genuine one or not.

All the best!

GlenEagle
11-15-06, 10:58
i am confident that what ever i paid was ok at that time, knowing that

1) mine is 100% genuine,
2) yes, we had to bribe the test responsible as he immediately noticed what we were up to... actually, i recollect one candidate completing about us…

i went through the complete medical and theory tests in recognised institutions personally, i would have been an idiot if i cannot differentiate a genuine against a fake one.

if i have taken the theory test in chinese, i only have to pay an additional rmb 500 for the ‘help’ to guarantee a pass, making the total cost of the whole process at rmb 700. i took all my tests and convert my foreign license in shanghai.

knowing your ego and having adopted the chinese attitude of ‘cannot afford to lose face’, i expect you to mention the following:-

-- my license is a fake one.
i will be glad to surrender it to the traffic police at any time for checking.

-- guangzhou is difference from shanghai

of course, they are different; shanghai is one of the most expensive cities, if not the most expensive. in order to compare apple to apple, we will consider that the 100 questions theory test is taken in chinese. if the foreign driving license can be converted to a chinese genuine one in shanghai for rmb 700, it should cost less than rmb 600 in guangzhou.

don't be a sour grape, if you are an idiot to pay rmb 1800 to get the local driving license while others only pay a few hundred rmb, admit it.

btw :- a fake driving license only costs rmb 10 instead of rmb 50 or 200 as mentioned in your report. again only a fool like you will pay between rmb 50 to rmb 200 for a fake one.

gleneagle

GlenEagle
11-20-06, 03:45
There you go again, I think the only thing you learned very well in this country is the attitude of ‘cannot afford to lose face’.

If you want to be boastful, create your own blog or go to www.boastfulbastard.com, this site is to share knowledge on mongering not talk about driving license.

If you want to criticise, make sure you know how to accept it. Come on, Son, don't be so naive, learn to grow up.

Cebu Local
11-21-06, 02:00
Gentleman,

This is the Classified Ads threads and not the fight club. Please only post here if you have any services, products or item related to mongering to sell. Do not use this space to "fight" among members

Thank you
AG

This post will self-destruct in 2 days.Otherwise AG will invite Bare Back Bill and Holton Cowboy to start posting here JUST JOKING

Ace Gallant
11-29-06, 03:39
If a mongering group likes to buy bulk, or someone wants to become a sales agent in any city of China, I can give a huge discount on a bag of 1000 condoms (even mixed types in bags of 100 per type), since individual mailing costs a lot of postage.
If in Hong Kong, Shanghai or Shenzhen, cash on delivery is possible,
otherwise prepayment by paypal and shipment by EMS.

For the available types please click here: 511252

PM me for prices (they depend on your location).

After one month of testing by several members of the gang and also several foreigner friends, these are the feedback on the Americans imported condoms:

Pro:
1) They are indeed much more comfortable to put on and use.
2) It is much better lubricated than the local ones.

Cons:
1) Since it is much better lubricated, sometimes when you got your girl fully simulated and her vagina muscles tightens, you might have a Slag. When pulling out your dick from her pussy, in between positions, the condom tend to pull back a certain portion of the condom thus making a little slag on your dick front. You will have to push down the condom back into your shaft of your dick before re-inserting into the pussy.

These feedback are gathered from a pool of guys (5 of us) who had tested the condoms.

AG

Bill Lee
11-29-06, 20:18
I bought some overpriced Viagra in Bangkok's Bumrungrad Hospital. Any one here who's paranoid about buying fake ones care to PM me any interest in taking them off my hand at a discount price?

Bill

Albert Punter
12-15-06, 12:15
I read this interesting article about authorities warning chinese women about possible risks of on-line brokers who arrange international marriages.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-12/14/content_5487531.htm

Szexpat, you may want to add some comments.

Old Mean Dog
12-16-06, 05:02
I read this interesting article about authorities warning chinese women about possible risks of on-line brokers who arrange international marriages.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-12/14/content_5487531.htm

Szexpat, you may want to add some comments.

The Chinese government has always frowned somewhat on the deportation of their women, so this is nothing new. Thanks to a few female politicians in the USA we now have H.R. 3402 requiring background checks on all men signing up at dating/marriage websites and I assume China is being pressured into this via strongarming.

I did find this paragraph from the article quite amusing:

"Dreaming of living a high life, Ziling, a 29-year-old girl from Shanghai's suburbs, married a Japanese four years ago, only to find her 15-year-old husband was a hot-tempered farmer living in north Hokkaido, reported the Legal Times recently."

Either she's retarded or this 15 year old kid is a Super Monger by pulling in a 29 year old from none other than Shanghai.

Phil1980
12-16-06, 16:15
The Chinese government has always frowned somewhat on the deportation of their women, so this is nothing new. Thanks to a few female politicians in the USA we now have H.R. 3402 requiring background checks on all men signing up at dating/marriage websites and I assume China is being pressured into this via strongarming.

I did find this paragraph from the article quite amusing:

"Dreaming of living a high life, Ziling, a 29-year-old girl from Shanghai's suburbs, married a Japanese four years ago, only to find her 15-year-old husband was a hot-tempered farmer living in north Hokkaido, reported the Legal Times recently."

Either she's retarded or this 15 year old kid is a Super Monger by pulling in a 29 year old from none other than Shanghai.


I wouldn't believe any of this bullshit propaganda from the Chinese government. I once knew a Chinese girl who told me that at their college their administrators actually told the female students not to associate with foreigners.

The same on Chinese TV, you have silly propaganda broadcasts once in a while where they show some Chinese women who have had bad experience with online-dating. The Chinese government hates the internet, because it can't control it, so they churn out crappy anti-internet propaganda and constantly try to close down internet cafes/intimidate internet users.

Lex Moon
12-22-06, 02:19
Heya all,

Seeing that Americans latley are having problems, I am offering a USA special for ISG friends. I can get Americans 6 month multi entry visas in Shanghai with no time limit in 5 days for 2400 RMB. The following is what you will need:

passport, 1 pic, temp residence permit (blue or yellow paper). I will pick up and deliver your paper work from any where in Shanghai saving you all the headaches. I can be reached via PM on this site and from there, I will provide you an email for further contact.

Cheers

DragonDoes anyone know how much for a 1 year/multiple entry work Visa?
(For Canadian & Japanese).

Dragon D
12-25-06, 07:58
Heya,

I charge 4700 including medical check for Canadian and Japanese for a one year working/residence permit. This is in Shanghai and if you are in another city can still be done but u must be in Shanghai one day for your medical and then one day for your interview.

Bill Lee
01-11-07, 13:09
But those interested in getting the last chance of buying the .003 Japanese condom before leaving HK.

Watson's on the main level after the north checkpoint has them for 79 HKD for a box of 10 at the HK airport.

The Durex featherlite are also available for a box of 18 at 79.90 HKD.

Have fun and be safe

BTW, this price wasn't any higher than the price I found for the .003 in Macau at the Watson and local pharmacy near the Holiday Inn.

Bill

Old Mean Dog
01-27-07, 09:45
But those interested in getting the last chance of buying the .003 Japanese condom before leaving HK.

Watson's on the main level after the north checkpoint has them for 79 HKD for a box of 10 at the HK airport.

The Durex featherlite are also available for a box of 18 at 79.90 HKD.

Have fun and be safe

BTW, this price wasn't any higher than the price I found for the .003 in Macau at the Watson and local pharmacy near the Holiday Inn.

Bill

FYI: They sell these condoms in Shenzhen at the larger Manning's and Watson's in town, 68 rmb a box (10). The little sex shop across the street from JUSCO also sells the 3 packs of them for 42 rmb

Dragon D
02-07-07, 01:19
WHY NOT TAKE MY NIGHTLIFE TOUR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO SOLO ....

Want some company in this lonely city after a hard day at work or travel?

If you have ever traveled alone for this type of pleasure, you know how much time and money you can waste just following bum leads, before you find what you want. Sometimes, by the time you do, it is time to leave.

What is true elsewhere is even more true in Shanghai. Mandarin is difficult to learn. You can't just pick-up a book, learn few phrases and be understood. The culture is so different, and the options so vast. In fact, in Shanghai alone, if you went to different erotic establishment every night, including bars, nightclubs, short time motels, street line-up, massage parlors, pick-up joints, escort agencies, it would probably take you over two years. I steer you to the best, and away from the worst.

I make sure you avoid rip-offs, and explain first hand, how everything works and costs.

I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

On my nightlife tours you can relax and concentrate on enjoyment. You will be given detailed instructions, and met in your hotel by a capable nightlife guide, that's me, who can take care of any problems that may rise. I will make sure you are ready for every step you take. No wasting time finding what you came for. No wasting money learning the ropes.

I keep you out of trouble and guide you to happiness. I give you all the help you need, BUT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. You benefit from my years of experience from the very first minute.

And nightlife is not all, during the days, on your stay in Shanghai, I also provide extensive sightseeing of sights and shopping, customized to your needs. You can even bring the girls you meet with you, for the total experience: All without worrying that you are completely on your own, without back-up, thousands of miles from home.

PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

*****

TOUR SERVICES FOR MALE: REGULAR NIGHTLIFE TOUR FOR RMB 1000 PER Guide (Max 3 people per guide)

1. Meeting at the hotel at 20:00, and cruise to dinner and some great erotic establishments, places where you are guaranteed to find a date for the evening
2. Advice on the most interesting places to go to in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation between erotic establishments included
5. Dinner and drinks at a nice Japanese restaurant included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SOCIAL TOUR FOR RMB 600 PER Guide

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convenient time, and in-bound social tour cruising to nowhere
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SHOPPING TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR CULTURAL TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included

If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area. As well monger tours to other China cities via Shanghai are also available.

Remember if you don’t like the tour, I also offer discrete escort hotel delivery. Contact me via PM for anything you need.

Special thanks to Jakarta After Dark for allowing me to use his ad as a template.

Member #3315
02-17-07, 18:33
Hi everyone,

I am an English teacher in China. If you need any translation service. Please PM me.

Tonyxxx001
02-19-07, 00:39
Just wondering how to say " Please send a girl to my room."

I would appreciate the help.

Thanks,

Tony

Wilde
02-19-07, 07:59
Just wondering how to say " Please send a girl to my room."

I would appreciate the help.

Thanks,

Tony

Please___send____a_______girl________to_____my______room
qing3____song4___yi1 ge4__nu3 hai2___dao4___wo3 de___fang2 jian1

The message gets auto-formatted, hence the underscore to help illustrate the translation.

But seriously, are you just going to walk up to the concierge and order one using what I provided? :cool:

Mark17
02-21-07, 22:55
Try the Shanghai Hotel Sauna. Nice girls there, and two girls at a time are available.


Hi there,

I am living in Shanghai and looking for a place or contact person so I can enjoy a nice and hot 3 some with 2 Chinese beauties.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Cooler Wolf2
03-04-07, 10:51
I wouldn't believe any of this bullshit propaganda from the Chinese government. I once knew a Chinese girl who told me that at their college their administrators actually told the female students not to associate with foreigners.When I arrived in China to work 5 years ago (in a small provincial city), we had a meeting with the local PSB officials. There, they proceeded to tell us what we could do and what we couldn't. Typical examples were not to discuss sensitive issues such as Taiwan/Tibet/Falun Gong etc. with Chinese colleagues or locals.

Most interesting though, the inspector told us that mixing with and forming relationships with the local women would be highly frowned upon and could get us into trouble(?).

Needless to say, if he'd seen the KTV hottie who left my bed at 7am that morning, he would have had a bad taste in his mouth. He made the mistake of waiting a week before having his little chat.

Cheers,

Cooler

Xtrafire
03-15-07, 15:44
Hey guys,

First apologize if this post is in the wrong Ad. I did not know where to place it instead.

So I have a question to you:

Do you know have some favourite music (chinese, international, .) to play when you are in action with your LTR or somebody else?

Do you prefer something with rythm, powerful or something soft?

Just curious and maybe want to get some good tipps.

Albert Punter
03-16-07, 16:29
Normally I only care about music before "action", which should be soft and/or romantic.

Honestly when I am in "action" I am too busy to change CD's or radio's tuning.


Hey guys,

First apologize if this post is in the wrong Ad. I did not know where to place it instead.

So I have a question to you:

Do you know have some favourite music (chinese, international, .) to play when you are in action with your LTR or somebody else?

Do you prefer something with rythm, powerful or something soft?

Just curious and maybe want to get some good tipps.

Member #2041
03-16-07, 18:59
In my opinion, the best music is whatever the lady you are with prefers.

Tallguy2004
04-09-07, 12:54
Have any of you heard of InterLingvo dot com? I signed up because one girl sent me there for translation. It has some incredible women's profiles and they keep writing to me, but you must pay for the correspondence service.

Ripoff or legit?

Santa
04-10-07, 08:15
Hey guys,

Do you know have some favourite music (chinese, international, .) to play when you are in action with your LTR or somebody else?

Do you prefer something with rythm, powerful or something soft?

Just curious and maybe want to get some good tipps.

I tried to send you a PM of my favourites, but you are not yet a paying member.

Bill Lee
04-10-07, 16:19
I know that many of the board members here uses laptops and are from the states. This is an ad I found at frys.com for 1 gig of Kingston laptop memory for $49.99 shipped free and sales tax free from Ohio to my state, New York.

Kingston memory is a brand name and has lifetime warranty.

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5045745

I place my order on Friday and it shipped yesterday. I did call them yesterday morning and they told me that my order could be possibly be delayed to April 24 due to backorders but it shipped yesterday afternoon.

Well, thought you guys should know about this deal. Next time, I'll put up sale information on Pocket Rockets.

Bill

Shanghai Jack
04-10-07, 17:04
Hey guys,

First apologize if this post is in the wrong Ad. I did not know where to place it instead.

So I have a question to you:

Do you know have some favourite music (chinese, international, .) to play when you are in action with your LTR or somebody else?

Do you prefer something with rythm, powerful or something soft?

Just curious and maybe want to get some good tipps.
Depends on the girl. If she likes it, you will be happy... If she is rather wild, try Sean Paul or other dancehall music. Also house music works fine. When it is a more romantic encounter, I spin Cafe del Mar or similar downbeat electronic. Have fun, SJ

Neuromancer
04-10-07, 18:53
I know that many of the board members here uses laptops and are from the states. This is an ad I found at frys.com for 1 gig of Kingston laptop memory for $49.99 shipped free and sales tax free from Ohio to my state, New York.

Kingston memory is a brand name and has lifetime warranty.

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5045745

I place my order on Friday and it shipped yesterday. I did call them yesterday morning and they told me that my order could be possibly be delayed to April 24 due to backorders but it shipped yesterday afternoon.

Well, thought you guys should know about this deal. Next time, I'll put up sale information on Pocket Rockets.

Bill2GB of flash at the Wanchai computer center here in HK is about HKD250 if I remember right, about USD32.25. That's the price for CF format, may be a little bit more for other formats, micro-SD should be a little more expensive. USB thumb drives should a lot cheaper.

Neuromancer
04-10-07, 19:00
I know that many of the board members here uses laptops and are from the states. This is an ad I found at frys.com for 1 gig of Kingston laptop memory for $49.99 shipped free and sales tax free from Ohio to my state, New York.

Kingston memory is a brand name and has lifetime warranty.

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5045745

I place my order on Friday and it shipped yesterday. I did call them yesterday morning and they told me that my order could be possibly be delayed to April 24 due to backorders but it shipped yesterday afternoon.

Well, thought you guys should know about this deal. Next time, I'll put up sale information on Pocket Rockets.

BillSorry, forgot to mention, 1GB is about HKD120 which is about USD15.50. Again, that's for CF format.

That deal at Fry's is a big rip-off my friend. Why would anyone pay 3x the market rates for a commodity? Sort of like paying USD3 for as ear of corn when you can get it for USD1.

If it shipped yesterday, how could it be delayed by backorders? Maybe could be delayed by snow?

Moody
04-10-07, 19:40
Sorry, forgot to mention, 1GB is about HKD120 which is about USD15.50. Again, that's for CF format.

That deal at Fry's is a big rip-off my friend. Why would anyone pay 3x the market rates for a commodity? Sort of like paying USD3 for as ear of corn when you can get it for USD1.

If it shipped yesterday, how could it be delayed by backorders? Maybe could be delayed by snow?

There are commodities and there are commodities. Compared to the memory used in CF or SD, the memory contained in DD2 is something like 200-300X faster. This isn't NAND flash stuff. $50 for 1G of PC-5300 is not bad price at all.

Neuromancer
04-10-07, 19:42
There are commodities and there are commodities. Compared to the memory used in CF or SD, the memory contained in DD2 is something like 200-300X faster. This isn't NAND flash stuff. $50 for 1G of PC-5300 is not bad price at all.DDR2 and NAND flash are very different. Two different commodities. Remember Bill's original comment was for Flash, not DDR2. Of course DDR2 is much faster than flash.

Traveler1234
04-10-07, 19:45
Sorry, forgot to mention, 1GB is about HKD120 which is about USD15.50. Again, that's for CF format.

That deal at Fry's is a big rip-off my friend. Why would anyone pay 3x the market rates for a commodity? Sort of like paying USD3 for as ear of corn when you can get it for USD1.

If it shipped yesterday, how could it be delayed by backorders? Maybe could be delayed by snow?

HK prices considerably lower than stateside but generic goods, and not always 'guaranteed' quality. I can get it for slightly less in KL markets but with stuff like RAM, usually it's worth to pay premium. BL is a good shopper and I'm sure it's good value :)

I mean, it's not like fishbowl vs. sideliner, is it?

IMHO.

Neuromancer
04-10-07, 19:57
HK prices considerably lower than stateside but generic goods, and not always 'guaranteed' quality. I can get it for slightly less in KL markets but with stuff like RAM, usually it's worth to pay premium. BL is a good shopper and I'm sure it's good value :)

I mean, it's not like fishbowl vs. sideliner, is it?

IMHO.Well, all NAND flash in made in one of two countries, Japan and Korea. So the "brand name" is exactly just that, good marketing. There are a few things which I don't completely understand, how the "binning" works. It's possible that the "guaranteed" quality products are parts from the higher quality bin.

The highest price for flash in Wanchai computer center (if I remember correctly - was there last weekend) is about HKD350 for the 2GB part and HKD180 or so for the 1GB part (USD45 and USD23 respectively) so best case is that the 1GB product for USD49.95 from frys is about 2x the price here in Asia.

Bill Lee
04-10-07, 20:20
I think Mr. Lee wrote they are use for laptop memory, meaning they are RAM memory not CF, SD or any flash memory used for accessories.

I kept my eyes on Best Buys, CompUSA and Circuit City (U.S. chain stores) circulars and they have never been as cheap as $50.00 US for 1 gig. Last week, Best Buy had the same Kingston memory for $79.95 plus local sales tax. And this was after an instant rebate of $25 (?). Even some of the online stores are not offering $50.00 a gig.

BTW, CF and SD flash memory are now as cheap as $9.00 US for 1 gig with rebate.

Just my 2 cents,

Bill


I know that many of the board members here uses laptops and are from the states. This is an ad I found at frys.com for 1 gig of Kingston laptop memory for $49.99 shipped free and sales tax free from Ohio to my state, New York.

Kingston memory is a brand name and has lifetime warranty.

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5045745

I place my order on Friday and it shipped yesterday. I did call them yesterday morning and they told me that my order could be possibly be delayed to April 24 due to backorders but it shipped yesterday afternoon.

Well, thought you guys should know about this deal. Next time, I'll put up sale information on Pocket Rockets.

Bill

Bill Lee
04-10-07, 20:26
If it shipped yesterday, how could it be delayed by backorders? Maybe could be delayed by snow?

I had placed my order on Friday night and had actually called Saturday afternoon about the order status. The rep told me that my order was on backorder and a new memory shipment would not come in until April 24. But they had already gotten a shipment the previous week and told me that my order was most likely to be shipped out when the new order arrived on April 24.

Then on Monday afternoon, I received a shipping e-mail notice, stating that my memory had been shipped. Apparently she was wrong and my shipment went out on Monday afternoon.

Sorry, I wasn't clear on the shipping details.

Bill

Neuromancer
04-10-07, 20:51
I think Mr. Lee wrote they are use for laptop memory, meaning they are RAM memory not CF, SD or any flash memory used for accessories.

BillSorry if I misunderstood, just automatically assumed that Mr Lee was referring to Flash (my mistake). CF or SD can also be used for laptops. Problem with buying DDR2 for laptops, is that it's not that easy to install (as opposed to flash which you just plug-n-play). Haven't shopped for DDR2 memory for laptops in recent history (or ever actually), so don't know what it's selling for.

Dragon D
05-06-07, 06:24
Thanks AG for the great intro... you pretty much hit it on the nail.. as for who I service, you got that pretty much right too.. one thing I want to mention though and thanks to Albert for mentioning it, is that I am not a rip off. There is a big difference between traditional mongers (like to go on the hunt and have the time to deal with issues that come up) and people who like someone to make sure they get the best use of their time and need a quick fix after a long day of meetings. I service the later crowd and since I charge TRL prices for my girls I can't accept that I am over charging. You want an example of over charging talk to that girl who wants 13,000 a day...

Also again I help all sorts of lao wai with visa issues and after fixing their problems like over stayed visas or other issues they want to relax at hooters and then release stress. I also do FOREX for people who need it, have a great private warehouse for knock-offs, offer a STD doctor who will make house calls, and deal with business stuff for a wide range of clients. I speak flutent Mandarin and Cantonese so I translate a lot. Some people actually believe that paying me my business rates and then having me get them laid is much better than hiring a student with decent English and then wondering...

About the KTV, if you invite me in a PM as a group of people going out just to have fun, I am not going to charge you as there is no service provided. So don't worry.

Old Mean Dog
05-06-07, 08:33
If you get tired of banging the sweet young things and figure it's finally time to settle down, then PM me. While Dragon D is a, what do you actually call yourself, Special Service Provider? I am a Matchmaker and have already found a ball-n-chain for one soon to be "ex" ISG Monger.

My office is in Shenzhen, if anyone is interested, and I will be glad to get any member of ISG corporate rates at a few hotels in town that we use.

-SZE

Traveler1234
05-06-07, 14:09
If you get tired of banging the sweet young things and figure it's finally time to settle down, then PM me. While Dragon D is a, what do you actually call yourself, Special Service Provider? I am a Matchmaker and have already found a ball-n-chain for one soon to be "ex" ISG Monger.

My office is in Shenzhen, if anyone is interested, and I will be glad to get any member of ISG corporate rates at a few hotels in town that we use.

-SZE

I don't personally know Sze but on earlier post he offered to provide mobile numbers of some FL in Sz to seniors who asked. I sent him pm and got a list - a long one ;)

If anyone uses him, let us know how it goes. I certainly will next trip.

Bill Lee
05-06-07, 18:26
What are your rates and details of services?

Since your business doesn't appear to be in competition with this board, do you have an website?

How does the whole process work in your organization? Will you assist with the Visa entry into another country for the wife/fiancee?

Bill wants to know.



If you get tired of banging the sweet young things and figure it's finally time to settle down, then PM me. While Dragon D is a, what do you actually call yourself, Special Service Provider? I am a Matchmaker and have already found a ball-n-chain for one soon to be "ex" ISG Monger.

My office is in Shenzhen, if anyone is interested, and I will be glad to get any member of ISG corporate rates at a few hotels in town that we use.

-SZE

Ace Gallant
05-07-07, 01:40
If you get tired of banging the sweet young things and figure it's finally time to settle down, then PM me. While Dragon D is a, what do you actually call yourself, Special Service Provider? I am a Matchmaker and have already found a ball-n-chain for one soon to be "ex" ISG Monger.

My office is in Shenzhen, if anyone is interested, and I will be glad to get any member of ISG corporate rates at a few hotels in town that we use.

-SZE

SZ,

As you knew, I had told you sometime back I am looking for a wife in near future. Once I had found her, my mongering days are over but however I cannot settle down till I fully retire in 2 years time.

I will definitely not do this but I am just curious; There must be a lot of people coming to you asking if they can "Try out the goods" before commiting to a match. How would you deal with this situation?

Enjoy!
AG

Old Mean Dog
05-07-07, 08:44
What are your rates and details of services?

Since your business doesn't appear to be in competition with this board, do you have an website?

How does the whole process work in your organization? Will you assist with the Visa entry into another country for the wife/fiancee?

Bill wants to know.

Hi Bill,

We do have a small website, but I will PM you the address as I would prefer to remain semi-anonymous for personal reasons.

I am the agent for probably the oldest and largest International Internet Marriage Company in the world and I am partners with a HK gentleman for our company here.

This being said, we offer tours to Shenzhen and Guangzhou to help the client find a wife. Being the agent for this company, I have access to over 5,000 girls between Shenzhen and Guangzhou through networks as well as our own private clients.

When you decide to become our client, we will send you a few forms to fill out and return to us telling us detailed info about you and the future wife you seek along with 2-3 photos of yourself. We then put our staff (4 Chinese ladies) to work contacting girls that meet your requirements to see if they have interest in you.

A few days before you arrive in SZ, we will schedule dates and times for you to meet these ladies for an interview at either our office or a neutral location (hotel room is not a choice for initial interview ;-0 ). This process will go on for 6 days.

Normally, this tour is designed for those coming from abroad so we do extras like pickup/drop off service, hotel bookings, provide assistance and interpreters, shopping excurisions, etc.

I will offer a discount to any ISG member or anyone already in Shenzhen or Guangzhou not needing the extras.

Yes, we do the paperwork for the spouse or finacee visa. Normally, our clients are from USA or Canada, but we have done the visa paperwork for the EU two times as well.

-SZE

Old Mean Dog
05-07-07, 09:00
SZ,

As you knew, I had told you sometime back I am looking for a wife in near future. Once I had found her, my mongering days are over but however I cannot settle down till I fully retire in 2 years time.

I will definitely not do this but I am just curious; There must be a lot of people coming to you asking if they can "Try out the goods" before commiting to a match. How would you deal with this situation?

Enjoy!
AG

Hi AG,

I am sure you will find a lovely keeper when your ready to retire from mongering as well.

As to the other part of your question; I am not a Pimp.

The ladies I represent either through my agency or our network are sincere girls looking for a husband. These are not Xiaojies or KTV Girls, most all of these girls are honest hard working girls, some divorced, some with children, some rich, some poor, some beauties, some not so beautiful.

I have no idea if they will allow anyone to "Try out the goods" before committing to a match. That is between clients and none of my business. My job is to facilitate the introductions and help the male clients while in China, for many, this is thier first time here.

Regards,
-SZE

Ace Gallant
05-07-07, 09:45
Hi AG,

I am sure you will find a lovely keeper when your ready to retire from mongering as well.

As to the other part of your question; I am not a Pimp.

The ladies I represent either through my agency or our network are sincere girls looking for a husband. These are not Xiaojies or KTV Girls, most all of these girls are honest hard working girls, some divorced, some with children, some rich, some poor, some beauties, some not so beautiful.

I have no idea if they will allow anyone to "Try out the goods" before committing to a match. That is between clients and none of my business. My job is to facilitate the introductions and help the male clients while in China, for many, this is thier first time here.

Regards,
-SZE

No SZ, you misunderstood my question;

I am asking: How would you handle these "man" who are asking to "test out" the girls. I am sure there are also some guys who are mongers and not serious about finding a wife, while there are some man who are serious but still insist on having a night out. I am sure the man will ask you this question.

My Question is: How will you reply them if they ask you.

The reason why I want to know is, I have a friend who runs a agency like yours in Singapore, he always complained to me that people just treated him like a Pimp! Always asking whether they can "test Out the goods". He asked me the same question as I am asking you now, how will you tell them that it is not your business? I would always answer my friend : "How would I know? I am not in this trade!"

It is funny that now we are this subject that prompts me to ask an expert in this trade like you. In a way, the next time he ask again, I would have the answer for him.

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
05-07-07, 10:23
Hi AG,

I am sure you will find a lovely keeper when your ready to retire from mongering as well.

Regards,
-SZE

I must stated clearly; those girls which I have interest in and will likely to become my future wife, I may not neccessary sleep with them. Those girls that fuck during my mongering time, may also not neccessary be a non-candidate.

Oh! by the way:

I had started looking around now, but if I failed, I know I can look for you. :D

AG

Old Mean Dog
05-07-07, 10:29
No SZ, you misunderstood my question;

I am asking: How would you handle these "man" who are asking to "test out" the girls. I am sure there are also some guys who are mongers and not serious about finding a wife, while there are some man who are serious but still insist on having a night out. I am sure the man will ask you this question.

My Question is: How will you reply them if they ask you.

The reason why I want to know is, I have a friend who runs a agency like yours in Singapore, he always complained to me that people just treated him like a Pimp! Always asking whether they can "test Out the goods". He asked me the same question as I am asking you now, how will you tell them that it is not your business? I would always answer my friend : "How would I know? I am not in this trade!"

It is funny that now we are this subject that prompts me to ask an expert in this trade like you. In a way, the next time he ask again, I would have the answer for him.

Enjoy!
AG

Actually, I did understand the question and my answer was: "I am not a Pimp"

I have ways of finding out if a man is a Playboy/Monger.....because I'm one myself, so as the saying goes "Takes One to Know One".

I assume some will ask if I am a "Fox in the Chicken Coop" and my answer is


-SZE

LoveAsia
05-07-07, 10:46
As to the other part of your question; I am not a Pimp.
SZE

You are not a pimp, but you are a lucky dawg getting to see some hotties in your office periodically.

I was just complaining to one of my partners that we must have the least attractive factory workers in our company. When I go to some of my friends companies I am like, shiit! Where the hell did they find these girls.

SZE, I should be heading down in 2 weeks. I will call you when I know for sure. We might have to take a drive to heng gang or Buji for some fun.

LA

Santa
05-07-07, 16:34
"I am not a Pimp"


I assume some will ask if I am a "Fox in the Chicken Coop" and my answer is


-SZE

That's right, Szex is not a pimp! He's not selling eggs, he's selling the whole chicken! :D LOL

Santa
05-07-07, 16:52
Szexpat is a good friend of mine. I can confirm that his "find you a wife" introduction service is strictly legal and legit. These ladies are not hookers and he would not knowingly introduce them to his website.

Sweetkisser
05-11-07, 03:48
Guys,

Just got back from a trip to Taiwan. The love hotel/motel business in Taiwan is booming! My friend, who runs a cchain in taiwan, had a discussion with me. Their main concern is the about the right of the customers. In taiwan, the police can not enter the motel/hotel rooms without search warrant. Unlike in China, police may enter any hotel rooms without search warrant. He has presented me with this scenario:

Let's say he opened a extravagant love hotel (of course taking care of the local gavernment's GUANXI). The business begin to boom. Some local chinese guy (with better connection w/government) sees that it's a winnner, he in turns open a same style place. The local guy ask the local LE to harass my friend's place in other to compete for business... What then?

I still think that there is a huge demand for such place (even just for lovers and married couples).

Just some of my thoughts.

I have been using a lot of the low priced motel/hotel such as Home Inn, JJ Inns, Shen Hua Motel, Motel 168 for over 2 years now. I never had any problem to register only with my name, with my lady friend standing right next to me. They never ask her to register in all hours of the day. My point is in the last few year, I have not heard of hotel raid for prostitution.

Ace Gallant
05-11-07, 08:49
Actually, I did understand the question and my answer was: "I am not a Pimp"

I have ways of finding out if a man is a Playboy/Monger.....because I'm one myself, so as the saying goes "Takes One to Know One".

I assume some will ask if I am a "Fox in the Chicken Coop" and my answer is


-SZE

Good answer. The last time I tried telling my friend to tell those guys "Hey! we are not an escort agency!" Apparently that pisses a few customers off. These customers includes legit ones. I hope telling them "I am not a pimp" does not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off.

I agree with you on the part about "out if a man is a Playboy/Monger" .... basically my friend had told me a few tricks; they can easily be deteched by the questions they ask.

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
05-11-07, 08:56
I have been using a lot of the low priced motel/hotel such as Home Inn, JJ Inns, Shen Hua Motel, Motel 168 for over 2 years now. I never had any problem to register only with my name, with my lady friend standing right next to me. They never ask her to register in all hours of the day. My point is in the last few year, I have not heard of hotel raid for prostitution.

The Authorities do not usually raids Hotel or prostitution. They will raid Saunas and KTV located inside the Hotels. Unless there is subtential amount of vice activities inside a hotel or an location, they will not bother.

However, Hotels had been issued warning sometimes to tighten their security against any vice activities including Prostition and high penalties will be posed on the owners of the hotel if they are caught. These penaties includes closing down the operations. Therefore, there are times when the security at the hotels would stop your GF if they find you returning with them after 11pm.

Most 5 stars hotels, they requires you to register your "guest" with security if you bring someone back after 11pm. This is mainly for the security of you and not for the prevention of Prostitution.

Enjoy!
AG

Kitty Asia
05-19-07, 06:40
Hiya,

I am Kitty, the former escort of www.naughtykittyasia.com you may have heard about me on ISG once. now I am just back from hibernation ;-p and have a new web www.kittyasia.com

Since I travel domestic often now and I hope to see some people that live in SH or GZ or other places during my trip. Also I appreciate if you like to invite me to travel to only see you. ;-p

I am sorry I didn't want to step in this men's world but I would like to say "Hi" here in classified section, to those who have supported me and found me via ISG.

Happy hunting in China!

Sincerely,

Kitty

Old Mean Dog
05-31-07, 11:07
Hiya,

I am Kitty, the former escort of www.naughtykittyasia.com you may have heard about me on ISG once. now I am just back from hibernation ;-p and have a new web www.kittyasia.com

So has anyone tried Ms. Kitty? Is she as fine as she says she is and worth the big bucks shown below?? Most Attorneys don't make that much an hour, so Enquiring Minds Want to Know...

2Hours USD480
3Hours USD660
12Hours USD1400
24Hours USD1800

-SZE

Albert Punter
05-31-07, 11:14
Apparently Intransit had tried her and endorse her.
Also, BJ Boy had experienced her.
Just refer to Shanghai thread for a nice quarrel about her and her fares.

Surely I don't feel comfortable paying such prices.


So has anyone tried Ms. Kitty? Is she as fine as she says she is and worth the big bucks shown below?? Most Attorneys don't make that much an hour, so Enquiring Minds Want to Know...

2Hours USD480
3Hours USD660
12Hours USD1400
24Hours USD1800

-SZE

Ace Gallant
05-31-07, 11:21
Apparently Intransit had tried her and endorse her.
Also, BJ Boy had experienced her.
Just refer to Shanghai thread for a nice quarrel about her and her fares.

Surely I don't feel comfortable paying such prices.

As I said; perhaps I should make time and experience her service and report back on the board. But I got to get back to Shanghai before that can happen!!!

Enjoy!
AG

Albert Punter
06-01-07, 10:28
From time to time we start to debate, and unfortunately in some cases to flame each other, about prices we pay. Like in some other occasions we start to debate how good looking or bad looking is a girl whose pics someone posted.

Personally, I don’t think we should fight on this subjects which are totally subjective.
Our perceptions and emotions differ, this is the beauty itself of human beings, so nobody is right or wrong in these cases.

Particularly in case of prices, it is like discussing how expensive or cheap is a restaurant.
It is individual evaluation of food, drinks, atmosphere, service, etc. that makes us thinking one or the other. IMHO, same happens for women.
Like in case of Kitty, all we can say is “prices are above market average” or “I would be available to pay those prices” or “I am not available to pay those prices under no circumstance”.
I don’t feel like criticizing some people for paying what Kitty or others so-called high-end escorts require for their services. These mongers are happy to do that, I am happy they are happy.

ISG is here to supply information on every single country, area, city.
Therefore, information on price range is widely available and, provided we RTFF, we cannot make mistakes or be ripped off. So, in case someone feels comfortable to pay much more than price range to enjoy a certain experience, others shouldn’t bother.

Blacklisted
06-01-07, 12:39
While I am less concerned with what prices people pay for shagging, I am highly interested, as OAH is also I would bet, what exactly Kitty offers for her services which are easily 8 times market rate.

Those who claim to have been her customer make such grand statements about her being far superior than BBS girls, KTV girls, or run of the mill girls (if there is such a thing), but no-one is being specific.

Is this because of embarrassment?

What, did she dress you like a baby and spank your ass a few times??

I mean, I don't want to sound inflammatory, but really, what is it she could do to justify the price and all the positive feedback?

To quote the late great Eddie Murphy:

-------------------------------

And I've had my share of pussy.
Even if the pussy was great and sparks shot out the woman's ass, and cannons blared and the mountains crumbled and the seas roared,

No pussy is worth 50 million dollars!
No pussy.

I'd like to meet some pussy like that. Put the shit on layaway.

-------------------------------

Anyone care to elaborate, or just leave us with mysterious claims of her brilliance.

I mean, since you obviously like her, you would be doing her a favour by elaborating and potentially bringing in new business.

Also, perhaps we can pass on these amazing techniques and tips to some of our regular girls to enhance to value of the experience for those less willing to fork out such prices.

Tiger 888
06-01-07, 14:09
While I am less concerned with what prices people pay for shagging, I am highly interested, as OAH is also I would bet, what exactly Kitty offers for her services which are easily 8 times market rate....

This sounds like yet another "Pretty Woman"

OldAsiaHand
06-02-07, 15:46
I am highly interested, as OAH is also I would bet, what exactly Kitty offers for her services which are easily 8 times market rate.

Exactly. The reports have been vague. She offers "more", "the best I have ever had", etc.

Specifics please gentlemen?

OAH

Tile Man4
06-03-07, 03:08
Exactly. The reports have been vague. She offers "more", "the best I have ever had", etc.

Specifics please gentlemen?

OAHSex for a man is like a train ride, many men just want to get to the station (having his O). Yes we like to enjoy the senery of our train ride before we get to the station.

I really want to know how good the senery was with this woman, because an O is an O for most men. No matter who we have sex with.

But we must remember. There is an ass for every seat and I am sure there are some men willing to pay these prices. I wish this woman luck.

Tile man

Alaizhang
06-07-07, 08:14
Looking for the most beautiful Asian or Caucasian ladies in the busy cities at Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Xian, Nanjing, Tianjing, Fuzhou and Shenyang. We can help you to search for the most beautiful girls in town with just one phone call away Part-time teachers, fashion models, office clerk, students are available at your request. We have good looking, professional Chinese escort and massage that willing to accompany you. Enjoy your stay in China!

Duration RMB USD
2 hours 1200 160
3 hours 1600 220
12 hours 3000 400
24 hours 5000 660

There is a discount for regular customers.

Bill Lee
06-08-07, 03:47
but don't you think that you're gouging the members here?

For you to put up such ridiculous prices, you're really abusing this board. You only got six posts with no real info and now you're trying to fuck the newbies here. You're not even a paid member.

Let me guess on your overhead, on a short time of 1200, girl would get 200 or less and you're getting 1000 or more? I hope it's a package deal and you're getting it up the wazoo with the girls too.

What cojones you have.

Why are you posting misinformation about Sha Tsui? It's been dead for at least half a year. Do you know for a fact it's back in business? When was the last time you were there?

How can I even enjoy my stay in China after looking at your post?

Just my opinion
Bill



Looking for the most beautiful Asian or Caucasian ladies in the busy cities at Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Xian, Nanjing, Tianjing, Fuzhou and Shenyang. We can help you to search for the most beautiful girls in town with just one phone call away Part-time teachers, fashion models, office clerk, students are available at your request. We have good looking, professional Chinese escort and massage that willing to accompany you. Enjoy your stay in China!

Duration RMB USD
2 hours 1200 160
3 hours 1600 220
12 hours 3000 400
24 hours 5000 660

There is a discount for regular customers.


Sha Tsui, is a good place for HongKong & Taiwan guys to monger.

Girls are extraordinary stunning & charming! Dam it~~ all of them almost fuck by Hongkong guys!

But if you are LaoWai coming to this place wanna have happy, I thinks it's not a right choice. because there are many guards walk around the small village. You will be easily follow up if you are foreign guys.

Mock A Bee
06-08-07, 06:19
Looking for the most beautiful Asian or Caucasian ladies in the busy cities at Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Xian, Nanjing, Tianjing, Fuzhou and Shenyang. We can help you to search for the most beautiful girls in town with just one phone call away Part-time teachers, fashion models, office clerk, students are available at your request. We have good looking, professional Chinese escort and massage that willing to accompany you. Enjoy your stay in China!

Duration RMB USD
2 hours 1200 160
3 hours 1600 220
12 hours 3000 400
24 hours 5000 660

There is a discount for regular customers.

Bill Lee,

Yes, I agree this guy is taking advantage of newbies. But also nobody in their right mind would agree to these prices.

This guy is obviously a wanker!

MAB

Bnlee2
06-08-07, 06:37
but don't you think that you're gouging the members here?

For you to put up such ridiculous prices, you're really abusing this board. You only got six posts with no real info and now you're trying to fuck the newbies here. You're not even a paid member.

Let me guess on your overhead, on a short time of 1200, girl would get 200 or less and you're getting 1000 or more? I hope it's a package deal and you're getting it up the wazoo with the girls too.

What cojones you have.

Why are you posting misinformation about Sha Tsui? It's been dead for at least half a year. Do you know for a fact it's back in business? When was the last time you were there?

How can I even enjoy my stay in China after looking at your post?

Just my opinion
Bill

Bill/Mock

This is the one of the main reason that newbie should RTFF. I have spent whole days with stunners... hot models and stil have not even come close to pay his ST charges. This joker is looking for real live suckers.

As for Sha Tsui, it is too bad. I had a friend that owned one of the larger KTVs and i use to like to go down there and watch the hundreds of girls. It was virtually a crazy meat market. For 5000rmb i could probably have atleast half a dozen sha tsui gals for the day and more. I think this guys is NUTs to advertise such outrageous prices.

At my friend's KTV in lowu/shenzhen the LT charge for a good stunner is only 1K.

Alaizhang
06-08-07, 08:31
but don't you think that you're gouging the members here?

For you to put up such ridiculous prices, you're really abusing this board. You only got six posts with no real info and now you're trying to fuck the newbies here. You're not even a paid member.

Let me guess on your overhead, on a short time of 1200, girl would get 200 or less and you're getting 1000 or more? I hope it's a package deal and you're getting it up the wazoo with the girls too.

What cojones you have.

Why are you posting misinformation about Sha Tsui? It's been dead for at least half a year. Do you know for a fact it's back in business? When was the last time you were there?

How can I even enjoy my stay in China after looking at your post?

Just my opinion

BillYes, That rates is for newbies who come to China & don't want to hunt in person, just stay in hotel or someplace let the pray ready for shot. I don't like you guys can fuck everywhere. You know there is a far-ranging rates from 50 yuan to 1500 yuan, and you have the rights & idea how to spend your money on you choice, So do newbies.

I don't want to ruin your enjoying mood to make you unable when you on girl's bed.

Re: Sha Tsui,

Maybe you have a fimilar Asian face coverd you real exotic dick thirst for sex can't be seen until you ask for. 99% people stay in this bit place know what is Laowa hunter for. yes, most of time you are OK and get what you want easily in Sha Tsui. and newbies can follow your handy guide to hunting for a cheap gals. who care?

Old Mean Dog
06-08-07, 12:22
Looking for the most beautiful Asian or Caucasian ladies in the busy cities at Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Xian, Nanjing, Tianjing, Fuzhou and Shenyang. We can help you to search for the most beautiful girls in town with just one phone call away Part-time teachers, fashion models, office clerk, students are available at your request. We have good looking, professional Chinese escort and massage that willing to accompany you. Enjoy your stay in China!

Duration RMB USD
2 hours 1200 160
3 hours 1600 220
12 hours 3000 400
24 hours 5000 660

There is a discount for regular customers.

Whew, almost sounds like an ex-ISG member who, I heard wanted to get "in" this business.....whomever you are, get a clue. Everyone posts locations and prices.

Bnlee2
06-08-07, 21:43
Yes, That rates is for newbies who come to China & don't want to hunt in person, just stay in hotel or someplace let the pray ready for shot. I don't like you guys can fuck everywhere. You know there is a far-ranging rates from 50 yuan to 1500 yuan, and you have the rights & idea how to spend your money on you choice, So do newbies.

I don't want to ruin your enjoying mood to make you unable when you on girl's bed.

Re: Sha Tsui,

Maybe you have a fimilar Asian face coverd you real exotic dick thirst for sex can't be seen until you ask for. 99% people stay in this bit place know what is Laowa hunter for. yes, most of time you are OK and get what you want easily in Sha Tsui. and newbies can follow your handy guide to hunting for a cheap gals. who care?


iAlizhang;

if you think you are so great knowing where the great looking gals are, then why are two of your previous post asking senior isg members for the mommys' number. just wondering. I thought for a guy like you, you will have many inside contact and phone number. Not even Dragon on the Shanghai board is asking for your outrageous prices. I think you are just another Charlatan.

Just remember, ripping off other people will just return bad karma in tenfold back to you. Help a bro, not rip them off. You sound like a telemarketer, maybe it is time to find a real job.

best

Bill Lee
06-08-07, 21:52
Huh?


Sounds like two different writers at work and a translation machine needs an update badly.

Bill

BTW, did you noticed that his only other posts were all in Sept., 2005?


Yes, That rates is for newbies who come to China & don't want to hunt in person, just stay in hotel or someplace let the pray ready for shot. I don't like you guys can fuck everywhere. You know there is a far-ranging rates from 50 yuan to 1500 yuan, and you have the rights & idea how to spend your money on you choice, So do newbies.

I don't want to ruin your enjoying mood to make you unable when you on girl's bed.

Re: Sha Tsui,

Maybe you have a fimilar Asian face coverd you real exotic dick thirst for sex can't be seen until you ask for. 99% people stay in this bit place know what is Laowa hunter for. yes, most of time you are OK and get what you want easily in Sha Tsui. and newbies can follow your handy guide to hunting for a cheap gals. who care?

Old Mean Dog
06-09-07, 02:30
Looking for the most beautiful Asian or Caucasian ladies in the busy cities at Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Xian, Nanjing, Tianjing, Fuzhou and Shenyang. We can help you to search for the most beautiful girls in town with just one phone call away Part-time teachers, fashion models, office clerk, students are available at your request. We have good looking, professional Chinese escort and massage that willing to accompany you. Enjoy your stay in China!

Duration RMB USD
2 hours 1200 160
3 hours 1600 220
12 hours 3000 400
24 hours 5000 660

There is a discount for regular customers.

Do you notice how his format is similiar to Ms. Kitty's except he has heavily inflated the prices:


So has anyone tried Ms. Kitty? Is she as fine as she says she is and worth the big bucks shown below?? Most Attorneys don't make that much an hour, so Enquiring Minds Want to Know...

2Hours USD480
3Hours USD660
12Hours USD1400
24Hours USD1800

-SZE

I also agree, this guy should be banned from the boards, I doubt he is even a paying member.

-SZE

BTW: I just posted in the SZ forum about a stunner (9-10) that can be had for 800 for 3 hours, so why would anyone want to pay twice that amount for a "blind date" that will probably fall short of an 8?

Moody
06-10-07, 02:27
Just for comparision, I thought I would post a little bit about the types of services that are available in the $500 for 2 hours or $2000 for 24 hours range...

I don't know if any of you guys heard of Ellen Saint, but she's one of the hottest porn stars around. Anyway, here are her rates:

dinner time (4-5h) 450 €
2 hours 400 €
12 hours 1100 €
24 hours 1700 €
48 hours 2500 €
every next day 500 €

So if any of you guys are heading to the Czech Republic, here's the website you can find her at:

http://www.topczechescort.com/en/htm/elensaint.htm


If any of you guys do get her.... don't forget to post a report..... In the movies, she does it all......

Man...... if I got her, I'd get her for a week and fuck my brains out.

ADDENDUM: Don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything wrong with paying this kind of money as long as you know what you're getting... With Ellen Saint, you know you're getting a SUPAHOT pornstar. BTW, dinnertime seems to be somewhat of a bargain.... Probably a good idea for her too... She'll probably get a gourmet meal out of it and I can easily see a guy getting all hot and horny during dinner and deciding to keep her for a week...

2nd ADDENDUM: Come to think of it, she should also offer something like, dinner, club, and screw. You take her out to dinner, go to a club somewhere and dance, then get back to your hotel. I think a reasonable rate should be about 600€.

3rd ADDENDUM: I was thinking... if you get her for two days, you may as well get her for the third. First two days are 2500€, but the 3rd day is a superbargain at only 500€. Hell... you may as well get her for a fourth day too.

Albert Punter
06-11-07, 14:51
Just have a look here
http://elitemodel-prada.com/index.html

She is a girl from Eastern Europe available in Shanghai but rates are following:

2h = 800 US$ (minimum time)
4h = 1000 US$
overnight = 1500 US$
one day = 2000 US$
weekend = 3000 US$
3 days = 4000 US$
5 days = 5000 US$
one week = 7000 US$

I can only repeat, I don't feel comfortable spending such money.

Dragon D
06-12-07, 09:32
WHY NOT TAKE MY NIGHTLIFE TOUR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO SOLO ....

Want some company in this lonely city after a hard day at work or travel?

If you have ever traveled alone for this type of pleasure, you know how much time and money you can waste just following bum leads, before you find what you want. Sometimes, by the time you do, it is time to leave.

What is true elsewhere is even more true in Shanghai. Mandarin is difficult to learn. You can't just pick-up a book, learn few phrases and be understood. The culture is so different, and the options so vast. In fact, in Shanghai alone, if you went to different erotic establishment every night, including bars, nightclubs, short time motels, street line-up, massage parlors, pick-up joints, escort agencies, it would probably take you over two years. I steer you to the best, and away from the worst.

I make sure you avoid rip-offs, and explain first hand, how everything works and costs.

I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

On my nightlife tours you can relax and concentrate on enjoyment. You will be given detailed instructions, and met in your hotel by a capable nightlife guide, that's me, who can take care of any problems that may rise. I will make sure you are ready for every step you take. No wasting time finding what you came for. No wasting money learning the ropes.

I keep you out of trouble and guide you to happiness. I give you all the help you need, BUT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. You benefit from my years of experience from the very first minute.

And nightlife is not all, during the days, on your stay in Shanghai, I also provide extensive sightseeing of sights and shopping, customized to your needs. You can even bring the girls you meet with you, for the total experience: All without worrying that you are completely on your own, without back-up, thousands of miles from home.

PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

*****

TOUR SERVICES FOR MALE: REGULAR NIGHTLIFE TOUR FOR RMB 800 PER Guide (Max 3 people per guide)

1. Meeting at the hotel at 20:00, and cruise to dinner and some great erotic establishments, places where you are guaranteed to find a date for the evening
2. Advice on the most interesting places to go to in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation between erotic establishments included
5. Dinner and drinks at a nice Japanese restaurant included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SOCIAL TOUR FOR RMB 500 PER Guide

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convenient time, and in-bound social tour cruising to nowhere
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SHOPPING TOUR FOR RMB500 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR CULTURAL TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included

If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area. As well monger tours to other China cities via Shanghai are also available.

Remember if you don’t like the tour, I also offer discrete escort hotel delivery. Contact me via PM for anything you need.

Dongguan Guy
07-24-07, 13:48
Hi Buddies,

I'm a Chinese living in Dongguan, in a town named Dalang to be specific which is located between CP and Houjie. The local recommendations here are Tianyu Sauna and Foreigner's Club in Royal Garden Hotel (5 Star) and a couple of BBSs.

If you ever require a translator or need info, please send me a PM, I'll be glad to help.

Enjoy!

DG Guy

Qiao Han
07-26-07, 19:20
I tried to send you a PM about some place in Da Lang where girls cost 30rmb but you can't receive messages. Maybe you didn't pay the 19.95 membership fee.

Dongguan Guy
07-27-07, 07:15
Sorry I don't know it takes a membership fee to use PM and I don't know where the 30 RMB place is.

Kitty Asia
08-05-07, 20:02
Dear All gents,

I apologize if my post gained your intention to flame on me. What do I apologize for? For your feeling that being unhappy with my post only.

Price is a subject only. Like we are not supposed to judge what other people do especially when the other people dont hurt us.

I am not fond of boasting myself, I posted here only for the potential clients traveling to Beijing, China. You contact me if you like to meet up with Kitty, or you walk away for other happy activities, I appreciate your tiime on reading my post anyhow.

Having read a couple of posts I understood that its fairly possible to get freebies, to find incredibly hot girls in bars, to enjoy a great massage service, or the worst, to be cheated or enticed by careless decision and get ripped off sadly, and even its not difficult to organize an orgy party.

Everything is possible including that there are still some gents would like to have some romantic dinner dates or they are willing to pay high price to make sure they dont get ripped off by bad quality or they dont have time to discover the varied markets (under the risk of being treated badly sometimes). One of the common reason of their searching for high end escorts is THEY want to be secret.

Anyhow, I thank those who have known me from ISG and dropped me emails and I would like to grandfather them with my previous rates. The new rates are on my website www.kittyasia.com

Please kindly contact me via my website if its your first time to date Kitty, for those whom I have met, you always know where to find me. ;-p

I am quite confident to answer your question on THIS BOARD. my email address is used for the appointment only. I wont reply to your question that you send to my email address. I am a professional escort, I appreciate your visiting to my website and learn about Kitty on there before you send email to make appointment with Kitty. My time is as precious as yours. Thank for your understanding.

Happy huting in China!

Sincerely,

Kitty

www.kittyasia.com

Tiger 888
08-06-07, 13:07
......there are still some gents would like to have some romantic dinner dates or they are willing to pay high price to make sure they dont get ripped off....
To save your time, here are the rates:

Previous rates:
2Hours USD480
3Hours USD660
12Hours USD1400
24Hours USD1800

New rates:
1,5 Hours EUR 400
2 Hours EUR 500
4 Hours EUR 700 (Dinner Date)
12Hours EUR 1200
24Hours EUR 1500

Kitty Asia
08-06-07, 17:20
Dear Tiger 888, Thank you for posting my rates. It does save other's time to learn about Kitty.

Dear Albert Punter, Thank you for analyzing the possible trend. I actually accept all kinds of currencies listed on my gift page. All those currencies saved my time to exchange when I travel to different countries especially to Europe.

Dear Santa, Thank you for being so open and sincere, I wont judge anyone, instead, I respect all kinds of truly expressions, that would make our communication more easily.

Dear Ace Gallant, Thank you for the fair post. Thats really my original intention to post the updates and I followed the forum rule that I wont even step into region board. I am fine with all kinds of opinions and hope to get to know more friends here.

If you are interested in dating Kitty but not sure if she is good, I invite all you to read what the gents (whom she has met in person) said about Kitty's service on the review page, there are links to those membership review websites.

All in all, the reason I raised the rates is, serving with high quality is better than serving a big quantity. We all know that, dont we? The next thing is experience on your own and tell the truth.

Again, price is subject.

Happy hunting to all

sincerely
Kitty
www.kittyasia.com

Albert Punter
08-06-07, 17:27
Euro is stronger now, so it seems logical she switched to that currency.
Anyhow, price increase is inconsistent: i.e. 2 hrs +42% (!!!) but 12 hrs is 17% (only).


To save your time, here are the rates:

Previous rates:
2Hours USD480
3Hours USD660
12Hours USD1400
24Hours USD1800

New rates:
1,5 Hours EUR 400
2 Hours EUR 500
4 Hours EUR 700 (Dinner Date)
12Hours EUR 1200
24Hours EUR 1500

Santa
08-06-07, 17:49
Anybody who would buy into this Kitty Cat shit needs to have a fucking brain transplant.

Nide naozi huai le ma? Your brain broken ma?

Just my opinion.

NicFrenchy
08-06-07, 18:48
I have never met you and probably never will (I don't use Escort Services).

I just would like to say that I appreciated the honesty of your post and that I think you are doing the right thing. Stick by your prices.

There can always be Cheaper services available, as there will always be more expensive services; if you believe that your prices reflect the quality of service you offer than who are we to dictate what you should do?

All a customer can do is pay the fee or go elsewhere.

Good luck in your Business.

NF

T Shanghai
08-06-07, 20:35
Hey All,

So I've been in china for 6 weeks now, and this forum has helped me alot, and i saw the classifieds and thought id give it a try.

I bought a cell phone when i first arrived and now that im leaving i dont really need it anymore.

I'm looking to sell it, its great for traveling, and it already has a sim card, however i dont know how much time is left on the service, but i hear its extremely easy to recharge.

Its just a simple nokia phone, charger and original box and all receipts included.
its on China Mobile. Anyway, i have pictures of it and if anyone is interested, toss me an e-mail. oh and im looking for 400 rmb or best offer.

Albert Punter
08-06-07, 21:52
Santa,

I didn't dare to say that, but you have less problems in being open and sincere.

By spending 700 EUR I calculate at least 20 "dinner dates" with my freebies and after those dinners surely I am not "being treated badly" by them.


Anybody who would buy into this Kitty Cat shit needs to have a fucking brain transplant.

Nide naozi huai le ma? Your brain broken ma?

Just my opinion.

Ace Gallant
08-06-07, 22:25
Santa,

I didn't dare to say that, but you have less problems in being open and sincere.

By spending 700 EUR I calculate at least 20 "dinner dates" with my freebies and after those dinners surely I am not "being treated badly" by them.

Guys be nice, be a Gentleman.

Although I do not endorse Kitty (I've never tried her services yet); nor will I agree that her price is not total madness; IMHO: she is just providing a service.

Most of you guys are frequent and experienced mongers and thus will be able to find that her price offered here, as compared to others available in China; "Unacceptable"; please be mindful that there are many other wankers out there who are not as experience as us.

IMHO: The choice of whether to choose her service compared to other is entirely up to each individual. Besides, it is not fair to criticize her unless you had used her services and found that it is not worth the while. Who knows? For that amount of money, she might give you an experience in which you can never forget in your life time? My thought is: “You never try you never know!” I remembered paying 200,000 JPY in Tokyo (Approx. 13,000RMB) for a LT with a Japanese Pro who advertised on pubic Japanese board. At that time everybody on that board was bitching about her ridiculous price. However I had found that her service is really worth that much. Super GFE, super clean, and experience of a lifetime. An experience that is so unique that till date I had not found something parallel. (I did post this on WSF - ISG back in my Japan days).

This is an open forum, and this is the Classified Ads. Anyone and Everyone is entitled to post their own opinions.

Enjoy!
AG

Albert Punter
08-07-07, 00:21
Fact is that I wouldn't feel comfortable at all to spend so much money.
Either way you look at it, you may remain with sad taste in your mouth.
What about if experience proves not to be memorable: you would really think to have been ripped off.
What about if experience proves to be so unique: you think you have spent so much money for something that you may get for nothing or for much less.

However, as Kitty says, there are mongers who "dont have time to discover the varied markets" so they may be willing/forced to give a try.
I publicly apologize with them if they got offended for my post and I only invite them to post their experience with Kitty here.


Guys be nice, be a Gentleman.
...
AG

Santa
08-07-07, 03:02
A chump is someone who pays a lot a gets little in return. The purpose of this forum is to help each other avoid being made damned fools of. Don't be a chump!

"But be nice, maybe her service is very good". Yeah, right! And maybe Santa's shit don't stink. :D

Ace Gallant
08-07-07, 03:25
IMHO:


Fact is that I wouldn't feel comfortable at all to spend so much money.


Well.... as I said: "is entirely up to each individual".



What about if experience proves not to be memorable: you would really think to have been ripped off.


Well... let's think of it this way, money paid; lesson learnt. For me in this case; I will post my experience to tell the rest of the world the service is BAD!!!



What about if experience proves to be so unique: you think you have spent so much money for something that you may get for nothing or for much less.


Again on this, if it is unique, it means no other in the world can provide the same, so it is once in a lifetime! Or you may want to pay her again???



However, as Kitty says, there are mongers who "dont have time to discover the varied markets" so they may be willing/forced to give a try.
I publicly apologize with them if they got offended for my post and I only invite them to post their experience with Kitty here.

That's a gentleman.... as always.... Ladies and Gentleman; Mr. Albert Punter!

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
08-07-07, 03:50
A chump is someone who pays a lot a gets little in return. The purpose of this forum is to help each other avoid being made damned fools of. Don't be a chump!

"But be nice, maybe her service is very good". Yeah, right! And maybe Santa's shit don't stink. :D

In life, you don't necessary get what you pay for. Sometimes you win sometime you lose. Sometime you get more than what you ask for and sometime you felt ripped off.

If you want to be sure of getting your money worth every time, people will start calling you names like "Miser".

Although I agree the fact that the ISG is to share information but information is never true until one had verify it. For this case, only those who had tried Kitty's services.

I used to think that the lottery is a chase of time. Not until I strike the lottery from a charity. Now I understood that the fact that although there is one to a million chance of striking the lottery; the chance is always there but if you don’t buy the lottery ticket there will be no chance for you. Like if you don’t buy and try a new brand of milk on the shelf, you never know. If everyone thinks that way and not try, the company goes bankrupt and nobody will ever knows does the milk taste good.

A sucker is born everyday, so is a millionaire. I prefer to think of it that this sucker, who had been ripped off, is doing the community a great favor by sticking his head out to try for us. Of course he have to post it on ISG for his efforts to be appreciated!

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
08-07-07, 03:54
Hey All,

So I've been in china for 6 weeks now, and this forum has helped me alot, and i saw the classifieds and thought id give it a try.

I bought a cell phone when i first arrived and now that im leaving i dont really need it anymore.

I'm looking to sell it, its great for traveling, and it already has a sim card, however i dont know how much time is left on the service, but i hear its extremely easy to recharge.

Its just a simple nokia phone, charger and original box and all receipts included.
its on China Mobile. Anyway, i have pictures of it and if anyone is interested, toss me an e-mail. oh and im looking for 400 rmb or best offer.

There are many second hand cell phone shops in most cities in China, the quickest way to to sell it to them. Unless your phone is not in good condition. In that case, they will pay you only a very low price.

Enjoy!
AG

Santa
08-07-07, 04:41
Santa says, "bah humbug and blah, blah, blah".:D

By the way, I have a bridge for sale in Minneapolis. If anybody is interested you can send me a PM.

Levitian
08-07-07, 05:53
My marketing professor now would quote: "For each prize, there is a customer, you just have to find him!"

I personally do understand people coming into town and go for some upscale entertainment without wasting time and energy to explore the hunting grounds, even if it comes with quite a steep price tag.

My POV.

Levitian

P.S.: Santa ... thanks! Am still laughing.

Old Mean Dog
08-07-07, 12:26
Guys be nice, be a Gentleman.

Although I do not endorse Kitty (I've never tried her services yet); nor will I agree that her price is not total madness; IMHO: she is just providing a service.

Most of you guys are frequent and experienced mongers and thus will be able to find that her price offered here, as compared to others available in China; "Unacceptable"; please be mindful that there are many other wankers out there who are not as experience as us.

IMHO: The choice of whether to choose her service compared to other is entirely up to each individual. Besides, it is not fair to criticize her unless you had used her services and found that it is not worth the while. Who knows? For that amount of money, she might give you an experience in which you can never forget in your life time? My thought is: “You never try you never know!” I remembered paying 200,000 JPY in Tokyo (Approx. 13,000RMB) for a LT with a Japanese Pro who advertised on pubic Japanese board. At that time everybody on that board was bitching about her ridiculous price. However I had found that her service is really worth that much. Super GFE, super clean, and experience of a lifetime. An experience that is so unique that till date I had not found something parallel. (I did post this on WSF - ISG back in my Japan days).

This is an open forum, and this is the Classified Ads. Anyone and Everyone is entitled to post their own opinions.

Enjoy!
AG

Most of us know what the price of pussy is in China, now do you just want to get laid or are you looking for a call-girl? Kitty, I assume dresses and acts like a high end quality gal that speaks English and someone you could take to dinner or around co-workers in upscale joints in Shanghai.

Most of the guys I run with just want to get laid, screw dinner parties, it's "Let's go to McDonalds and then back to the hotel for dessert".

I will not knock a guy if he wants to go out on the town, have a private translator and a sure piece of ass later. If his pockets are deep enough then she maybe worth the money for the "extra" services provided.

-SZE

Zhuren
08-10-07, 13:03
Ace: Right on. I once paid $1500 for an all-nighter in Tokyo, and it was the best investment I made in my lifetime. It was so good, I repeated it next time I came through town. I will never ever forget it. Too bad she's not active anymore. She dropped off the net a few months after I met her.





I remembered paying 200,000 JPY in Tokyo (Approx. 13,000RMB) for a LT with a Japanese Pro who advertised on pubic Japanese board. At that time everybody on that board was bitching about her ridiculous price. However I had found that her service is really worth that much. Super GFE, super clean, and experience of a lifetime. An experience that is so unique that till date I had not found something parallel. (I did post this on WSF - ISG back in my Japan days).


Enjoy!
AG

Bonzo1
08-11-07, 03:18
Ace: Right on. I once paid $1500 for an all-nighter in Tokyo, and it was the best investment I made in my lifetime. It was so good, I repeated it next time I came through town. I will never ever forget it. Too bad she's not active anymore. She dropped off the net a few months after I met her.

Ditto .. my first trip to Tokyo I paid about USD 1200 for an all nighter and I'll never forget it; one of the best of such experiences in my life.

I think the problem with paying this kind of coin is the fear that there's no guarantee that you'll get what you paid for. It depends somewhat on how you click with the provider. Perhaps then it's more incentive to plan and research up front to try to determine if you and the girl are a good fit.

-B-

Ace Gallant
08-11-07, 03:34
Ditto .. my first trip to Tokyo I paid about USD 1200 for an all nighter and I'll never forget it; one of the best of such experiences in my life.

I think the problem with paying this kind of coin is the fear that there's no guarantee that you'll get what you paid for. It depends somewhat on how you click with the provider. Perhaps then it's more incentive to plan and research up front to try to determine if you and the girl are a good fit.

-B-

When comes to service industry; we all know that there are no guarantee for good service.

When I was living in Tokyo I don't play with escorts much. I was pretty busy with freebies. I do keep a couple of freebies at at time. I am sure that since anyone who are playing in Japan scene, you should know that Japan is a different type of play all together. The girls do not look upon the money as much as China. They wanted more of the fun. Very often a few of my freebies do know each other, we wines and dine, go out on weekend Onsen trips and ended up in bed together.

I had often said this: In Japan you don't have to pay to get laid.

The main reason why I paid for the mentioned escort was that one of my ISG buddies told me that she is very good and I was determine to find out. I made the investment and turn out that I was not disappointed.

I guess there are always risk in "investing" into someone unknown or someone you had never tried before; but the point is; whether you get what you expected is not important; you learnt from it, and you share it that the geez in the brotherhood of ISG.

Enjoy!
AG

NicFrenchy
08-11-07, 04:01
I had often said this: In Japan you don't have to pay to get laid. I would say that this is also valid for all countries (well, unless you are short, fat, bald, 65, do not shower often, do not dress properly and have bad breath).

I live in Bangkok (capital of sex? maybe, debatable) and that does not prevent me from getting freebies from girls I meet in the street or Shops.

The thing is, Freebies end up being more expensive than Escorts or Bar Girls (if you factor a sex time per money coughed). I like a mix of both.

Going with Amateurs is nice, but if you want TOP experience, you have to go with a professional ;)

Zhuren
08-11-07, 04:20
I think AG summed it up best:

- When comes to the service industry, there are no guarantees for good service.

- In Japan, there's no need to pay for a lay.

- There are always risks in "investing" into someone unknown.

Like any city, Tokyo can be full of scams. You can pay $1000 for an "oily massage" provided by the same girl that would have charged you 100 RMB back home in China. You can also have the best sex in the world, for money or for free. And like no other city, Tokyo has a commercial outlet for any perversion known to man or woman.

It's true, JP ladies generally are into sex for the fun of it, and a Caucasian guy who treats them nice ranks high on the desirability chart. No problem if you are a bit older. If you are black, leave China immediately and head to Tokyo.

As for risks: No risk, now reward. Do your research, but there is always a point where you just need to pay your tuition fees.

The best investment to lower those tuition fees is to get a membership in ISG, and to share.

Ace Gallant
08-11-07, 16:35
The thing is, Freebies end up being more expensive than Escorts or Bar Girls (if you factor a sex time per money coughed). I like a mix of both.


Uhhh.... My definition of freebie is those that let you fuck without paying. Those that wants you to buy them gifts or expansive dinners does not count.

In China, it is still possible to get freebies. I lived in Thailand for over a year and I use to speak reasonable amount of Thai, somehow, I found that Thai "freebies" always would lead to money or marriage negotiation.

As I had mentioned in other China's threads, Freebies are easy to come by, but hard to get rid. Get in fast and get out fast.

In Japan, I can get freebies as easy as a whistle.

Enjoy!
AG

Dragon D
08-15-07, 20:25
WHY NOT TAKE MY NIGHTLIFE TOUR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO SOLO ....

Want some company in this lonely city after a hard day at work or travel?

If you have ever traveled alone for this type of pleasure, you know how much time and money you can waste just following bum leads, before you find what you want. Sometimes, by the time you do, it is time to leave.

What is true elsewhere is even more true in Shanghai. Mandarin is difficult to learn. You can't just pick-up a book, learn few phrases and be understood. The culture is so different, and the options so vast. In fact, in Shanghai alone, if you went to different erotic establishment every night, including bars, nightclubs, short time motels, street line-up, massage parlors, pick-up joints, escort agencies, it would probably take you over two years. I steer you to the best, and away from the worst.

I make sure you avoid rip-offs, and explain first hand, how everything works and costs.

I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

On my nightlife tours you can relax and concentrate on enjoyment. You will be given detailed instructions, and met in your hotel by a capable nightlife guide, that's me, who can take care of any problems that may rise. I will make sure you are ready for every step you take. No wasting time finding what you came for. No wasting money learning the ropes.

I keep you out of trouble and guide you to happiness. I give you all the help you need, BUT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. You benefit from my years of experience from the very first minute.

And nightlife is not all, during the days, on your stay in Shanghai, I also provide extensive sightseeing of sights and shopping, customized to your needs. You can even bring the girls you meet with you, for the total experience: All without worrying that you are completely on your own, without back-up, thousands of miles from home.

PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

*****

TOUR SERVICES FOR MALE: REGULAR NIGHTLIFE TOUR FOR RMB 800 PER Guide (Max 3 people per guide)

1. Meeting at the hotel at 20:00, and cruise to dinner and some great erotic establishments, places where you are guaranteed to find a date for the evening
2. Advice on the most interesting places to go to in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation between erotic establishments included
5. Dinner and drinks at a nice Japanese restaurant included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SOCIAL TOUR FOR RMB 500 PER Guide

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convenient time, and in-bound social tour cruising to nowhere
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SHOPPING TOUR FOR RMB500 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR CULTURAL TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included

If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area. As well monger tours to other China cities via Shanghai are also available.

Remember if you don’t like the tours, I also offer discrete escort hotel delivery. Contact me via PM for anything you need.

Albert Punter
08-27-07, 11:25
...
Going with Amateurs is nice, but if you want TOP experience, you have to go with a professional ;)


I have to admit that best experiences I had were with freebies, not with pros.




...
I once paid $1500 for an all-nighter in Tokyo, and it was the best investment I made in my lifetime.
...


My best investment (performance/price ratio) with a pro was only 700 Pesos in Mexico City a few years ago (reported on ISG forum).
So, what a difference. However, we all know that markets are very different and price level too.
In Japan I spent much more too.

Juliet Queen
09-12-07, 08:15
I'm Juliet, 23, a wonderful & passionate woman. I do elaxing oil massage and massage in Beijing. 300 rmb per hour offered at our place with candle light and amazing music, soft hands, tender touch, warm smile, fluent english.relaxing & enjoyable !

Pls feel free to contact me at 13120432440 , let me massage you! Try it!

Suave Shi
12-23-07, 21:58
Read somewhere that some of you guys guide through the night. If for a fee. Am not new in the city but certainly could learn some from you. Pm me with your details (email addresses are better) as am just a regular member (just registered hours ago) and while I may subscribe within days but I am just having a first look into this site. My email address is [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Fla Fun
02-09-08, 12:29
Dear All gents,

The new rates are on my website www.kittyasia.com

Please kindly contact me via my website if its your first time to date Kitty, for those whom I have met, you always know where to find
Happy huting in China!

Sincerely,

Kitty

www.kittyasia.comKitty,

I tried to view the website. The site did not load. You may want to check your website. I think there is a problem.

Bill Lee
03-26-08, 19:22
http://www.invernessmedicalpd.com/poc/products/clr_hiv_statpak.html

Bill

Nick Jacks
04-16-08, 04:38
I will be in Beijing Mid-June and am looking for a pregnant girl, the further along, the more I will be will to pay. ****
-
**Will be staying close the to the airport.

Horny Girl
06-01-08, 05:40
My name is Eric. I am an English teacher in China. Through so many years hard studying in English, now I have got a good command of English , I can speak and use English almost as well as my native language Chinese. At present, I am running my own English training center. I want to make friends from all over the world to improve my English .Pracetice makes perfect.If you need any translation service just contact me :

http://starenglish.blogbugs.org/2948292/Your-Online-Translator.html
http://starenglish.blogbugs.org/2948292/Your-Online-Translator.html

Dewdrops
06-05-08, 18:26
I will be in Beijing Mid-June and am looking for a pregnant girl, the further along, the more I will be will to pay. ****
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**Will be staying close the to the airport.Do you have a fetish for pregos?

Old Mean Dog
06-06-08, 05:22
Do you have a fetish for pregos?

haha, either that or.......he has some kind of monkey business planned to con people? Maybe it's a visa thing.

I've been told by some 20-30ish Chinese that sometimes guys will "rent" a girlfriend/fiance to take home to mom and dad to get them off their backs....

-CPE

Dan Hawaii
06-06-08, 08:39
http://www.invernessmedicalpd.com/poc/products/clr_hiv_statpak.html

Bill
I heard it takes couple of weeks before HIV can be detected???? So not going to work for WG, if you want instant bareback session.

Dewdrops
06-09-08, 16:19
haha, either that or.......he has some kind of monkey business planned to con people? Maybe it's a visa thing.

I've been told by some 20-30ish Chinese that sometimes guys will "rent" a girlfriend/fiance to take home to mom and dad to get them off their backs....

-CPEWell I think it can be sexual as some people have fetish for pregnant women. Are there any people here?

Horny Girl
08-04-08, 12:54
My name is Eric.I am an English teacher in China. Through so many years hard studying in English, now I have got a good command of English , I can speak and use English almost as well as my native language Chinese. At present, I am running my own English training center. I want to make friends from all over the world to improve my English .Pracetice makes perfect.If you need any translation service please visit my blog:

http://starenglish2006.********.com/

http://starenglish2006.********.com/

Kelisi
09-08-08, 14:54
Not sure if this is the right forum, but lookign for a stripper in Beijing for this Saturday. It's a friend's bachelor's party. Anyone know of anyone?

Thanks, just pm me.

Funfor Females
09-10-08, 08:21
I have written about Joy in the Fuzhou, Xiamen and South China (All) sections.

Below is an advert she has used elsewhere and asked me to post it here for her. I was delighted to help.

This girl is an absolute gem and well worth a punt.

Have fun.

"I am Joy and guys say I am a joy to be with.

I am an Asian girl visiting South China until 17 September 2008. Usually I live in the south of England, but often I go to London for my work. (Not this escort work, I mean my real job)

In London I am sometimes an escort for nice guys, who are kind to me. It is not my full time job, but I do it sometimes because I really like to get excited and it turns me on to think about being a bad girl. I like the extra cash as well !!!

Now I am in Fujien for a holiday and I want to meet some guys and do my escort work here also' I can meet you in Fuzhou or Xiamen or anywhere in South China.

In China nobody knows who I am, it is my secret, so I can relax and enjoy some ‘fun’ with horny guys. And I can make some extra money also.

I know what men like, and I know how to help them feel good.

Guys say I have very good legs particularly when I wear a miniskirt and stockings. Sometimes they like me to keep my stockings on when we…….er…. you know……because they like to feel my stockinged legs rub against them.

Guys also like my soft, small Asian fingers. They are very gentle and I know exactly what to do with them. I really know how make you feel good and it turns me on to see a guy getting excited, big, strong and throbbing.

What guys really, really like is my lips and tongue. Sometimes they like me to keep my stockings and short skirt on when I kneel down in front of them to ……… well, you know!!

Oh, and one more thing………I really like to receive ‘O’. I just love it when a guy helps me to ‘Finish’ by using his tongue. So please, if you come to meet me remember that when I get turned on I need to finish also.

So!

Do you like the idea of a small Asian girl, with long black hair, in a miniskirt and stockings?

Do you like the idea of a part time escort who really enjoys her hobby?

Do you like the idea of finding out what I can do with my fingers, lips, tongue and thighs.

If so just E-mail me at [Email address deleted by Admin], or call me on [Telephone Number deleted by Admin], and lets see if we can meet.

I don't have my own appartment here in China but I can come to your hotel or home. Or I can check into a hotel and you can visit me there. Or maybe, you would like us to ‘get together’ somewhere else. OK, just contact me and lets see what happens.

Kisses

Joy

China mobile:- [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]"

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Horny Girl
09-28-08, 16:52
Hi,

My name is Eric. I am an English teacher in China. Through so many years hard studying in English, now I have got a good command of English, I can speak and use English almost as well as my native language Chinese. At present, I am running my own English training center. I want to make friends from all over the world to improve my English. Pracetice makes perfect. If you need any translation service just contact me by followings:

[Email address deleted by Admin]

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Dragon D
03-03-09, 08:11
Heya all,

Have been blocked in China and not able to access the forum. I am still around though.

WHY NOT TAKE MY NIGHTLIFE TOUR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO SOLO ....

Want some company in this lonely city after a hard day at work or travel?

If you have ever traveled alone for this type of pleasure, you know how much time and money you can waste just following bum leads, before you find what you want. Sometimes, by the time you do, it is time to leave.

What is true elsewhere is even more true in Shanghai. Mandarin is difficult to learn. You can't just pick-up a book, learn few phrases and be understood. The culture is so different, and the options so vast. In fact, in Shanghai alone, if you went to different erotic establishment every night, including bars, nightclubs, short time motels, street line-up, massage parlors, pick-up joints, escort agencies, it would probably take you over two years. I steer you to the best, and away from the worst.

I make sure you avoid rip-offs, and explain first hand, how everything works and costs.

I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

On my nightlife tours you can relax and concentrate on enjoyment. You will be given detailed instructions, and met in your hotel by a capable nightlife guide, that's me, who can take care of any problems that may rise. I will make sure you are ready for every step you take. No wasting time finding what you came for. No wasting money learning the ropes.

I keep you out of trouble and guide you to happiness. I give you all the help you need, BUT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. You benefit from my years of experience from the very first minute.

And nightlife is not all, during the days, on your stay in Shanghai, I also provide extensive sightseeing of sights and shopping, customized to your needs. You can even bring the girls you meet with you, for the total experience: All without worrying that you are completely on your own, without back-up, thousands of miles from home.

PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

*****

TOUR SERVICES FOR MALE: REGULAR NIGHTLIFE TOUR FOR RMB 800 PER Guide (Max 3 people per guide)

1. Meeting at the hotel at 20:00, and cruise to dinner and some great erotic establishments, places where you are guaranteed to find a date for the evening
2. Advice on the most interesting places to go to in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation between erotic establishments included
5. Dinner and drinks at a nice Japanese restaurant included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SOCIAL TOUR FOR RMB 500 PER Guide

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convenient time, and in-bound social tour cruising to nowhere
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SHOPPING TOUR FOR RMB500 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR CULTURAL TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included

If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area. As well monger tours to other China cities via Shanghai are also available.

Remember if you don’t like the tours, I also offer discrete escort hotel delivery. Contact me via PM for anything you need.

To hunt me down in case I can not access this in China, take my handle and put it together in small case, add my favorite position that is a number (male and female both sucking) at the microsoft email .com and you will find me.

Cheers

Dragon

Drhhh
04-20-09, 12:12
Welcome to Beijing Escorts And Massage.

I offer reliable, high class and discreet Beijing Massage and Escorts Services.

Most of my service available for only Outcall, Home, Private Residence, Hotel visits within Beijing

I provide exhilarating, discreet, personal services, creating unforgettable dreams, memories and excitement. Alternatively.

Please visit my website and contact for further discussion.

cellphone 13521500804 fergie

http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/beijing-massage

Mao Dun
04-22-09, 10:34
I did cam to cam once with this girl Feifei and will be back. She is not asking too much and says she is hurting for lack of clients. She has a very pretty face and to me an amazing body, and isn't shy about showing you everything and doing everything you want (I didn't get into anything really kinky though). She's online every day for long blocks of time. PM me for her QQ number.

Mao Dun

Drhhh
05-28-09, 15:02
Beijing massage Recommend,Great Massage in Beijing

www.rentmasseuse.com

Dewdrops
07-23-09, 15:53
Do you have any such service in South China--Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Dongguan, Guilin, Nanning and so on.


My name is Angel. I am a 22 years old gal living in Beijing. If you're visiting Beijing and wondering how to spend your time here, I can help you with a memorable evening that is filled with fun, excitement and passion. You can hire me or any of my friends for hotel massage, dinner dating, sight seeing, private party, private dance, etc.

All my friends are below 25 years old. They are good looking and well-mannered. When you hire them, you can be sure of your personal safety. My friends are simple girls that come from decent background. They are either students or holding day-time jobs, eager to make extra income and at the same time, make new friends.

Our rates are very reasonable. For the first 90 minutes with complete service, our price is RMB 600 for the Girl-Next-Door, RMB 800 or RMB 1,000 for Models quality. There is no hidden cost. We also provide overnight packages. If somehow there is no chemistry between you and my friend, you just need to pay for her taxi fare, and we'll get you a replacement right away.

Call me or SMS me at +86 13520288017 at anytime of the day or night!

Check out my blog at angels-beijing.b l o g s p o t.com Blog Spot may not be accessible in China. Please go to http://www.zend2.com/ and enter my URL angels-beijing.b l o g s p o t.com to view my website when you are in China.

Susan22
08-09-09, 13:26
i'm a masseuse therapist who has several years experience in massage therapy, offering a bodywork experience that is very therapeutic yet sensual.

a full body experience with gifted hands

and a skilled touch to help you feel the real you.

there are only a few real providers out here

that can remove pain and give your mind a break, if i can't make your needed time or get to you.

i am your best choice and you will enjoy happy ending. i am gifted and skilled

to provide bodywork for your whole body.

my price are follows relaxing oil body massage and scalp massage 200rmb/hr (aroma therapy oil)

tantric massage by magic hands +prostata care +sensual & swedish massage 400rmb/hr

(aroma therapy oil)

available for outcall in your apt, business or hotel, thanks for your interested in my ad, i look forward to sharing my energy with you soon. contact susan at [email address deleted by admin] for appointment, (advance appointment advisable).

enjoy warm massage oil and soft asian hands! you will be happy you did!

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Mcsfo2004
09-08-09, 04:54
Hi,

Tried PM'ing Angel, but that doe snot appear possible.

How does one contact her/him?

Thank you!


Nope, currently I'm only focus in Beijing, though planning to set up one in Shanghai soon.

Tommy26
09-11-09, 12:01
Anyone knows places where to pick up girls in Hohhot, inner Mongolia?

AsnDragon
09-27-09, 05:06
Angel,

Are all of your angel girls all real pictures? Seems like an interesting concept that i would like to try. As i feel in all situations, i'll try anything once! Can long term offers be arranged?

Please PM me if you can about further information.

AsnDragon


Hi,

You can text me. My number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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Onadlos
09-27-09, 12:50
If the pictures are real it seems like a really good initiative and i'll try it as soon as the shanghai branch starts. Waiting for feedbacks, but it seems like quality is a priority here.

Dragon D
09-29-09, 15:46
Heya all,

Have been blocked in China and not able to access the forum. I am still around though.

WHY NOT TAKE MY NIGHTLIFE TOUR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO SOLO ....

Want some company in this lonely city after a hard day at work or travel?

If you have ever traveled alone for this type of pleasure, you know how much time and money you can waste just following bum leads, before you find what you want. Sometimes, by the time you do, it is time to leave.

What is true elsewhere is even more true in Shanghai. Mandarin is difficult to learn. You can't just pick-up a book, learn few phrases and be understood. The culture is so different, and the options so vast. In fact, in Shanghai alone, if you went to different erotic establishment every night, including bars, nightclubs, short time motels, street line-up, massage parlors, pick-up joints, escort agencies, it would probably take you over two years. I steer you to the best, and away from the worst.

I make sure you avoid rip-offs, and explain first hand, how everything works and costs.

I honestly believe that it would cost you more to go alone because on my nightlife tours you avoid pitfalls and tourist rip-offs, like being overcharged by cabs and hotels. You avoid hassles like poorly located hotels, or those that suddenly decide to charge for overnight guests. And I always place your location within reach of important nightlife, banks, and shopping centers.

On my nightlife tours you can relax and concentrate on enjoyment. You will be given detailed instructions, and met in your hotel by a capable nightlife guide, that's me, who can take care of any problems that may rise. I will make sure you are ready for every step you take. No wasting time finding what you came for. No wasting money learning the ropes.

I keep you out of trouble and guide you to happiness. I give you all the help you need, BUT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. You benefit from my years of experience from the very first minute.

And nightlife is not all, during the days, on your stay in Shanghai, I also provide extensive sightseeing of sights and shopping, customized to your needs. You can even bring the girls you meet with you, for the total experience: All without worrying that you are completely on your own, without back-up, thousands of miles from home.

PM me and we’ll chat and set up something. Pls mention the tour package you are interested in.

*****

TOUR SERVICES FOR MALE: REGULAR NIGHTLIFE TOUR FOR RMB 800 PER Guide (Max 3 people per guide)

1. Meeting at the hotel at 20:00, and cruise to dinner and some great erotic establishments, places where you are guaranteed to find a date for the evening
2. Advice on the most interesting places to go to in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation between erotic establishments included
5. Dinner and drinks at a nice Japanese restaurant included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SOCIAL TOUR FOR RMB 500 PER Guide

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convenient time, and in-bound social tour cruising to nowhere
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR SHOPPING TOUR FOR RMB500 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, and shopping for whatever it is you may desire.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, shopping establishment tickets if any, meals, and drinks not included

TOUR SERVICES: 8 HOURS REGULAR CULTURAL TOUR FOR RMB800 PER TOUR GUIDE

1. Meeting at the hotel at your most convinient time, off to temples, parks, gardens, and other interesting places of interests
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Shanghai
3. Help dealing with situations
4. Transportation, cultural establishment tickets, meals, and drinks not included

If you don’t see what you need PM me and we can take the time to find something to suit your needs. I also offer business services for those people who need a translator or need to visit factories or other companies outside of the Shanghai area. As well monger tours to other China cities via Shanghai are also available.

Remember if you don’t like the tours, I also offer discrete escort hotel delivery. Contact me via PM for anything you need.

To hunt me down in case I can not access this in China, take my handle and put it together in small case, add my favorite position that is a number (male and female both sucking) at hotmail.com and you will find me.

Cheers

Dragon