2005 Dubai Archived Reports [Archive] - Page 4

11Bravo

09-25-05, 14:30

Unsolicited advice

Out and about last night, bumping into another forum member, to be known in this report as White Knight, rarely posting of late. We were talking while a new girl was doing some quiet marketing with us. Being that she was standing next to us at the bar, we'd both occasionaly talk with her. She'd go make a circuit, scouting, then return to the drink she'd left with us. We were careful not to box her in. All the norm. Suddenly, a guy barged in, DEMANDING that she give him her mobile number, as in "GIVE ME YOUR MOBILE NUMBER". Mr. White Knight subtly intervened, taking her back into "our" conversation, while quietly explaining to her she was under no obligation to provide her number to ANYBODY (she was a newbie, with no mentor around; well, not quite true, WK had stepped up). White Knight thought he might be undercover LE; I catagorized him as a simple bully.

Unsolicited Advice #1: Do not walk up, DEMANDING her mobile number (or any other information).

Yes, english is the language of commerce. Yes, not all providers speak it fluently; not all punters do either. But, have some couth. Common sense: girl considers those that DEMAND in the bar will probably DEMAND other things later, if she goes with him; therefore, chances she will are slim. The "I'm superior, you're inferior" approach does not seem to have a high degree of success (at least in the venues I know). They are here to make money, but risk avoidance is also high up on the priority list. Instead, chat with her a bit, then ask for the mobile number. Usually works.

But not always.

I'd bumped into Miss T; figured I would, so not a surprise. Chatted with her a bit in between her scouting expeditions. She left early, looking for the proverbial greener pastures as it was a buyer's market; too many ladies chasing too few punters. Had also been talking with the newbie, getting her phone number for potential ramadan use (you KNOW they are new when they don't know their own phone number).

All the time, a rather attractive chinese was standing across the aisle. Certainly, as we are checking the ladies, so they are checking us out. Getting ready to leave, and finding her black cocktail dress very enticing, went over and started a conversation. She was friendly and flirty, mentioning that she'd seen me months earlier at afternoon TGIT (would have had to have been months ago). She, like a lot of newbies, starting there to earn some "startup" cash. Now, she was a Cyclone girl (yes, she would fit in there), but tonight taking an opporunity to scout other venues with a girlfriend. She was unaware of the effects on working conditions that ramadan would bring, so chatted a bit about that. As it was getting late (at least for ME), asked for her phone number. She declined, saying that I seemed to have too many girlfriends already and would therefore always be busy; she KNEW my mobile was full of ladies' numbers. Even my mentioning the possibility of killing a ramadan afternoon together, with a mobile number making it so much easier to hook up, was rebuffed. "If you want to see me, you know where to find me".

I CHOOSE to believe she'd seen me collecting others' numbers, but it could just as well be that she a) didn't like old men, or b) knew that my ceiling would not meet her floor. I just happen to like MY spin on things.

Oh well, always others. Out the door, sure enough, spotted another attractive, future candidate. Walked over to take a closer look; not quite as cute up close, but, still, as I'd made the trip, figured I'd still get a number. Her english was limited (she said Taiwan; I'm betting PRC), so had to do a bit of explaining that, TONIGHT, just wanted her number for future use. No problem, she entered it into my mobile. Good nights said, turned around to leave. There, on the "porch", was Miss Cocktail Dress, observing all; HER intuition correct in my case.

Unsolicited Advice #2: Talk with too many, never "inking" a deal; simply walking around, collecting too many mobile numbers NOT a good idea, especially if you're intent on getting that a-lister's number.

You can be catagorized as a time-waster. She doesn't need her number out in WIDE circulation on the CHANCE you might call.

And in truth, she was right. The chance of me, once getting the number, subsequently using it, slim. Not because she wasn't attractive; good idea at the time. However, there are just too many others to pick from, THERE, THEN, when you do go out. It's just too easy to get contacts.

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Regal policy varies a lot. ... Policy beats me.. in any event 50 to get in with two 'free' drinks actually equals 10dhms, its just annoying.Nothing I hate more than inconsistency. I might gripe about Cyclone's policy, but at least you know what will happen. Nothing like walking up wondering, will I be stopped, or breeze right through. Just a display of poor management; who needs that minor annoyance? With consistency, you can determine BEFORE venturing to the venue, worth it or not.

Keep hunting and build leads for the lean season ahead.Unless your domain is street action, afternoon TGIT, or you're muslim so forbidden to enter the bars, I don't think it's so much lean. Just more crowds out (civilians), more traffic, more LE forcing girls to keep low profile outside. Judging from past years, I've always been able to hook up in the clubs and bars. 3 magic words: discreet, discreet, discreet. And stock up on the alcohol now.

Dr. Beat

09-25-05, 20:15

Thanks to Joyboy for his timely advice, I spent an enetertaining hour at the AMP behind centrepoint apartments. The quality of the women was not the best but the service was professional and I left a satisfied man. I went with Sen Sen who was probably a 6.5 and seemed like the best in the lot.....except for her aggressive bargaining in the beginning for a higher tip, the overall experience was positive.

Do send me a PM if someone knows of a massage place with nicer looking women...

Piper1

09-25-05, 20:35

Hi Sharaf,

Not meeting people I've never met before would make me a lonely man. ;)

But I get what you mean. Maybe we can catch up one day with JSF if we can all synchronize our busy "little black books".

cheers

Piper

Piper,

I am regular visitor to Dubai, I read your reports and to be honest I realy find it excellent last week I met with JSF and I asked him if he can arrange a meeting with you, but he told me that you dont like to meet people whome you don't met before, if you change your mind you can get my contact number from JSF.

Bye

Piper1

09-25-05, 20:42

Nothing I hate more than inconsistency ... With consistency, you can determine BEFORE venturing to the venue, worth it or not.

What bugged me is that there was consistency in the past - they *always* let me through without paying. Still, no big drama. (Is it one drink with the ticket, or two? - I had only one!)

cheers

Piper

StudFarm

09-26-05, 12:11

Dear Punters,
There are forum reports that Sheraton Diera Towers and Hyatt Regency are girl friendly hotels. But no reports are there about the night clubs situated inside,ie: Primeire at Hyatt and Star Studios at Sheraton. Those who have experienced those clubs ,kindly report.What is the standard of girls,their rates etc.Hope there wont be any problem in getting the girls to the rooms.
Are those night clubs comparable to Cyclone or York?
Regards.

Irish Lad

09-26-05, 12:40

Hello,

I have been many times to Premiere and in my opinion it is placed lower than Cyclone but above York. Pricing follows this at about 600 to 700 LT depending on timing menu etc. There are about 70 girls there and some are real good lookers.
No Chinese that I could tell but some from Asian Russia. Some Africans but mainly CIS.

I am not sure about friendliness but it is certainly reported before.

IL

Marcusau

09-26-05, 13:48

Studfarm,

I stayed in the Sheraton Creek Hotel in Diera last month (is that the same as Sheraton Diera?). There is no action at all in the bars, unless there's a nightclub somewhere which I didn't find. But, it is completely guest friendly. The cool thing is that you can enter the hotel from your taxi, go up the escalator, then skirt around the left side, near the coffee shop, out of sight from the check-in area and reach the elevator lobby without anyone even blinking an eyelid. As someone has mentioned before, be careful when you are walking from the elevator to your room because the hotel is an atrium design and anyone in the lobby who looks up can see you.

Good luck, I hope this is the right hotel.

Marcus

Dear Punters,
There are forum reports that Sheraton Diera Towers and Hyatt Regency are girl friendly hotels. But no reports are there about the night clubs situated inside,ie: Primeire at Hyatt and Star Studios at Sheraton. Those who have experienced those clubs ,kindly report.What is the standard of girls,their rates etc.Hope there wont be any problem in getting the girls to the rooms.

Are those night clubs comparable to Cyclone or York?

Regards.

11Bravo

09-26-05, 14:05

I have been many times to Premiere and in my opinion it is placed lower than Cyclone but above York. Will agree with the Irish on this one. My ranking of the major bars I know personally (which is rather limited) as to quality: Cyclone Premiere Regal York Imperial TGIT (Astoria hotel), very hit and miss - can find some stunners if you're lucky and she needs to make the rent
Can also mention Jockey's (Panarama hotel) - again, some in-house; number of others use this as an early evening staging area before venturing off to more prestigious places.

It seems that Piper is one of the few venturing to other venues. Me, I have neither the time, energy, money, or need... I can find what I like within my small circle of bars (and there is something to be said for the "Cheers" atmosphere).

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studfarm: You know, you ask a lot of questions (that pesky search engine), but I don't see a lot of posts providing your experiences. It's kind of a 2-way street, you know. Nothing wrong with questions, but (I feel) one really should provide some feedback of lessons learned. Nothing like blazing the trail yourself. Will be looking forward to your FR's on Premeier and Star Studios.

If Justfun 10 had provided contact details of CIS and Massage parlour I could have gone there. This forum's intention is to provide information on sex escapades, not to hold information.

Massimoweb

09-26-05, 14:15

According to my opinion, Premiere is one of the best places in terms of quality. Rates are not so different from Cyclone but the club is not so crowded as Cyclone.

One year ago I took two young moldovian girls, around 1.00 am, and I paid 800 dhs for a LT threesome, plus a fee for the taxi the day after.

Concerning the hotels, I always stayed in Rolla residence, in Bur Dubai, which was "enough" girl friendly (only one time, in two years, asked me to register the lady, without any extracharge). Rate varies from 200 dhs (low season) to 250 dhs for a studio. Normal rate is higher, but you can negotiate for special rates if you often stay there.

Max

11Bravo

09-26-05, 14:21

Ramifications of NOT being discreet
What was he thinking?

The ramifications of not being discreet. Well, he has 8 months to figure it out.

From Gulf News, 26 Sept 2005, Page 6
MATTER OF HONOUR
Drunken tourist cooling heels in jail after kicking taxi
Goes wild after driver takes fare from his friend
Dubai

A drunken visitor has been jailed for kicking a taxi after getting wild with the driver who accepted the fare from a woman who was with him.

The Dubai Court of First Instance sentenced the 27-year-old American visitor identifiid as R.F. to eight months in jail and fined him Dh2,OOO for drinking liquor, slandering Islam and a policeman who was arresting him and for kicking the taxi.

He was also found guilty of trying to bribe the policeman to let him go. The Dubai police arrested the accused following a complaint from the driver. According to court reports, R.F. and the woman took the taxi from a Dubai hotel and were heading to the airport.

When they reached the airport the visitor took out DhlOO and gave it to the driver and in the meantime the woman also gave him Dh5O. The driver accepted the money from the woman. R.F. went wild, it is learnt, and kicked the taxi. Then the driver called the police.

When a policeman arrived, the accused slandered the driver and the policeman and Islam as well. The policeman then tried to arrest the visitor who offered him DhlOO to let him go.

You know, I certainly NEVER want to see the inside of an Emerati jail. And certainly not on the charge of slandering Islam. That guy might be having more sex than he ever thought possible.

Moral of the story: go quietly into the night

Piper1

09-26-05, 15:36

Re Gulf News Story: "The policeman then tried to arrest the visitor who offered him Dh100 to let him go."
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100DH?!!! Classic. Better off tipping the poor driver.

cheers

Piper

Piper1

09-26-05, 15:43

Dear Punters,
There are forum reports that Sheraton Diera Towers and Hyatt Regency are girl friendly hotels. But no reports are there about the night clubs situated inside,ie: Primeire at Hyatt and Star Studios at Sheraton. ... Are those night clubs comparable to Cyclone or York?

Studfarm,

Premier at Hyatt Regency is great. I agree with Irish Lad, it's almost on par with (my distant memories) of Cyclone. Went to Premiere several times - excellent quality. Way way better than York, which has gone downhill rapidy in recent months (but you'll still find a few rare gems, and the price range is around 300, as opposed to Premiere which is around 500-700). Have fun!

Piper

Piper1

09-26-05, 16:19

It seems that Piper is one of the few venturing to other venues. Me, I have neither the time, energy, money, or need... I can find what I like within my small circle of bars (and there is something to be said for the "Cheers" atmosphere).

I *wish* I had the time. There are posts here by hundreds of others about places I've never been to - but given the time I surely would like to check out more places.

I've checked out many places in Dubai (I'm just a naughty adventurer at heart). My fortunate problem is that I get the "Cheers" atmosphere in almost all the places I go. But I still gravitate back to a fave few. Piper is a simple man with simple needs. Remember Piper's Three B's?

Speaking of time, I had a special engagement lined up for tonight, but had to postpone due to lack of time. Hopefully tomorrow.

Cheers

Piper

11Bravo

09-26-05, 20:49

black star

just goes to show, 1 time is not sufficient for a valid sample. my last evening out, sat night, posted a few posts back, was at the rattlesnake, metropolitian hotel.

it was miss thursday who mentioned it to me; she'd been there a couple of times. as she said, "for you, good, you don't have to drive into town, with the traffic, when you want to listen to music."

(for her), "for me, not good business. just a bunch of old english guys, been in dubai too long, sit and drink beer. i buy couple of beers, and, with taxi fare, lose money, almost 100 dhs." (beers are 21dhs, bottle heineken; taxi downtown bur dubai 20-25dhs).

so, off i went sat to check it out. i was impressed with the ladies selection. as posted, saw 2 who were interesting enough to get their mobile number, a 3rd struck out with for the number, and there were at least 3 others i would put on my to-do list. all well and good.

the best thing that can be said about the band is that they don't turn the volume up too loud. not my style - more laid back rock, lounge stuff, one step up from elevator music. and if i want to see a poofter singer wearing a sinatra hat, well... i wouldn't.

still, i was thinking, this might be a nice place to hang out, become known; good for a st pull some weeknight.

then tonight.

get there early, 9:05. spotted the girl i talked with sat, cute; ok face, reasonable body. tonight, her friend... lesser body (slender, a-rack sure), but beautiful face. what to do? face or body? now, if you're piper, you take both. for me, none... they were already occupied, even at that early hour.

ok, sit and wait. by 10, band starts, a few more girls there. nothing i would get up off my stool for. miss thursday arrives; stops, says hello. bit of a problem though. seems the manager had told her that she "could come in tonight, but not tomorrow."

now, i'm a bit irked. but i'm of the type that believes not fair to gripe unless you try and do something about it. so i go talk to the manager. i politely explain that i know this girl, and if she's not welcome, then i feel that neither am i, and so will take my business elsewhere. i get the charming, "up to you. i'm trying to cut down on the number of...."

me, i love capitalism. freedom of choice. so i return to finish my drink. miss thursday, she's got the good heart, continues to talk to the manager. she reports back, the manager is angry at her for complaining to me.

i finish my drink, and, on leaving, miss thursday seeing me out, stop, and clarify with the manager. i again politely explain that it was miss t that told me about the place; normally, i go to seaview, but as his bar was closer, was checking it out. i get the blank stare as if he doesn't comprehend english (i was so tempted to give him the "doooooo yooooooou speeeeeeeeeak englishhhhhhhhhhhhh?" routine, but, like i say, i was being polite). miss t steps in, and translates. he asks me to step outside, to talk privately.

outside, he explains to me that he doesn't like girls roving around, bothering customers. if she comes with me, ok, but by herself, she's not welcome. he does not want a lot of girls roving around. (gee, that's the opposite of what i want; after all, if i want to drink, i can have my 3dhs heineken at home, rather than his 21dhs; i like scenery; no problem if it moves; saves me the trouble of having to get up.) and i know miss t. she's more a "worm'er"; you know, will stand by your table, wait till you turn her way, then say hi. she's certainly not a "grabber". she's not a "bother".

plus, he's a poor businessman. it's not like she's standing around empty-handed. bottom line, he makes more money on her (21*2 for beers) than me (10*2 for cokes).

so, we return inside, where i mention to miss t that we will be going out thursday, elsewhere.

just like jockey's what, several years back. prc not welcome. ambiance not that great; music not that great; only reason i considered going there has also been significantly reduced. well, as asian studies are my major, i'll go elsewhere too.

as the michelin guide would say: not worth the trip, even if you live close.

Piper1

09-27-05, 13:56

Another Gulf News Story:
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Kiss lands driver in jail for a month

Dubai: A 23-year-old Syrian driver has been jailed for one month for kissing a married 16-year-old.

Dubai Juvenile Court reprimanded the teenager, who is married to a 34-year-old UAE national.

The UAE national told the police that he suspected his wife and J. were having an illicit relationship.

The 16-year-old said the driver had only kissed her.

J. denied her claims.
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11Bravo

09-27-05, 15:06

Dubai: A 23-year-old Syrian driver has been jailed for one month for kissing a married 16-year-old. Piper: the story in the Gulf News had 1 more sentence:
Dubai police arrested J. after the UAE national detained him after dropping his wife off at their Dubai home at 2:30am.

There are just so MANY things WRONG with EVERYTHING in this story....

11Bravo

09-27-05, 15:07

Rant continues

I just FR the ambiance of the venue, figuring others can choose the specific girl of their choice with that information. What others do with the info is up to them.

Thought it was a good idea.

My plan was to establish a presence at Rattlesnake, pick up a handful of numbers of the ladies who call it the office, then, when I felt like an early evening horse ride, arrange to meet her there early, around 9; 1, 2 hours before her normal office hours start (funny how that works out), having a few drinks while waiting. We leave for our gallop; she takes a short taxi ride back for prime time; I get to sleep early enough to make the pre-dawn wakeup.

But NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo.

Too Hasty

But wait. In the immortal words of Professor Kingsfield, "I might have been too hasty." (10 point bonus if you can name the film; another 10 to name the actor.)

The manager's attitude does have merit, but it must be FULLY implemented. I certainly don't like being annoyed, so let's ban the real culprits:
Cricket. What's with all these guys discussing cricket? It's 2 hockey goalies (a REAL sport) running back and forth, back and forth, carrying Mrs. Jolly Green Giant cake frosting spreaders. And what kind of score is "256, declared; 3 wickets to spare"? Listen, a score is 256 to 228 PERIOD. And what REAL sport has a f*cking TEA break? Or Lunch? "Oh, bit of a googly on that, hey wot? Sticky wicket, that." Banned.

Football. Even worse, the punters who arrive talking about last night's football (interest goes up, to come crashing down when they finish with) MATCH. This is physically dangerous. I'm scared that my brain, benumbed by boredom while they prattle on and on about the exciting 0-0 match, will shutdown, resulting in a face plant into the table, knocking myself unconscious. Which would be a blessing... I don't have to listen to "scored with a header". A header is what she gives you as an appetizer; the only "scored with a header" I'm interested in is known as CIM.
Football is a GAME; 0-0 is NOT exciting; a tie is "like kissing your sister". If you want to talk about football, it better be "On the snap, the quarterback flipped it back to the tailback on a flea-flicker, who hit the wide-open flanker on a down and out because the free safety went for the split-end on a post pattern". What you're talking about is soccer. Banned.

Golf. What idiocy is this? Put a small ball down, each player with his OWN ball, hit it with a stick. Chase it (NOT running, but a leisurely walk), to hit it again; and again. Into a hole. That's right: a f*cking hole. A cup is something you wear to protect yourself while playing a REAL sport. Banned.

Smokers. Listen, I don't care to wear your foul exhalations on my clothes. Or have my eyes watering, unable to see what I'm looking for. Banned.

Road Manners. Every bar has a traffic pattern; you know, the parade route. Cyclone, York, it's circular. Imperial, it's up and back. So what is it with the SW Asians who can't comprehend that the road is for moving, NOT stopping smack dab in the middle, to gawk at a good looking girl standing on the curb. Doctopuss is complaining about "being pushed by a bouncer to keep moving"???!!!??? The road is for making the circuit, to see or be seen. If you want to stop, pull over to the curb and parallel park next to her so you can carry on a conversation. No wonder dxb has so many accidents with drivers like these. Banned.

Personal space. Listen, I'm not interested in having you simulate butt-f*cking me; go commit frottage with someone else. For all those who don't share my sense of personal space... Banned.

English. Last night, carrying on (or trying to), a conversation with the punter next to me, a non-native english speaker. Granted, he spoke more english than I did Czech. Nice guy, but it was a bit of a struggle, both of us having to strain to understand the other. And who needs that? Non-fluent english speakers... Banned.

African WG's. Yes, based on FR's, a few do provide good service. But, statistically speaking... chances are very good she does NOT give a bj, even covered. No bj? Automatic red card (thunk, that's my head hitting the table). Banned.

CIS shotputters. If a manager IS concerned about space, then... some of these take up the same space as THREE PRC's. Who wants to have to roll her in flour to find the wet spot? Banned.

Now, we have a BAR for ME: clean air, full, flowing conversations about REAL sports, with space to see and move, with no clutter of the scenery.

I'm about as subtle as that fullback crashing through on a "high-diddle-diddle, this-time-up-the-middle" play. But my point is: Miss T (and her sisters) WERE playing by the rules. They were NOT freeloaders; they WERE buying drinks. Sat. night, Miss T and 2 sisters were sitting at a table with a punter, drinking; NOT roaming around. She came over to talk with me; finished her beer, and left for greener pastures. In the 2.5 hours I was there, with 3 other punters in "our" group, NO one was approached, cold-called. Anywhere else, we would have been mobbed (not for looks, but for the impression of fat wallets). Not there. It was even more low key than Seaview. It was the punter approaching the wg's. Same last night. I certainly got some attempts at eye contact from across the way, but, given their looks, I was using my 100 yard (as in football FIELD, not pitch) stare.

So I did take offense at his blind categorization. Even Miss T with her limited english could explain, "I come here, have a couple of beers, dance some, wait for business. We're NOT all the same." If he's concerned about ladies just standing around, consuming his precious oxygen, without contributing to his bottom line, fine; institute an entrance fee with a couple of drink vouchers. But a "you're not welcome here"?

Certainly Rattlesnake will not miss my 20-100 dhs/visit. And since, for me, it was not a "Cheers" atmosphere, I will not miss them. As a place to imbibe for an evening out... a resounding NO.

Piper1

09-28-05, 08:42

Quote: from 11bravo on 8:39 pm on Sep. 27, 2005

Piper: the story in the Gulf News had 1 more sentence:
Dubai police arrested J. after the UAE national detained him after dropping his wife off at their Dubai home at 2:30am. There are just so MANY things WRONG with EVERYTHING in this story....

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Bravo - Didn't see that line - I'm a sped reder. And you're right - methinks there's much more to the story.
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Cheers

Piper

Piper1

09-28-05, 08:44

Well, last night was a mind-blowing experience with a beautiful and very sexy lady (non-pro).

Not sure how to report it, if at all. I'll need approval by her boyfriend when we get a chance to discuss it. No chance to discuss it with him last night, as we had a little white lie going with his girlfriend as to how I turned up on the scene.

Hopefully he will email me some of the pics he took. All I can say to him now is: Thanks!

Cheers

Piper

PS. D - if you manage to get through the proxy, PM me.

Sharaf

09-28-05, 11:40

Hi,

I PM you today .thats for may visit on saturday October 1

bye

Odiacz

09-28-05, 14:03

In Deira there is some limited street action around the Mayfair hotel and on the big avenue (opposite direction of creek) - mostly Filipino girls as well as some Chinese. Walked by the Moscow hotel as well where there was an absoloute stunning Russian girl - looked however to be on a very high salary scale.

Sheraton Creek

When coming home an Iraqi girl walked out of the elevator. Our eyes crossed each other and she came up to the room. She wore an Arab dress which looked great. Though her body was rather "Arab-shapped" (a few pounds too much) it was one of the best sex I ever had. Shaved and very tight pussy, a lot of kissing - just great. Price AED500.

Having breakfast in the morning I saw some lovely chicks walking by the coffee shop. Another possibility to get one.

JustSumFun

09-28-05, 19:18

11b, Sporadic, E R, Bc, Piper, all you guys have been busy for the last few days/weeks I can see. Good to see all the regulars posting. I wish I could be as regular. But keep getting bogged down with work. The working hours keep getting longer and longer and the leisure periods keep getting shorter and shorter.

I am thankful that I get a chance once in a while to log in and read the posts by you gentlemen. Takes my mind off the work pressure for a bit. And brings a smile to my face. Seems I have forgotten how to smile. the lsast time I tried a smile in front of the mirror it almost cracked.

Oh well!!!

Anyways though I find less time to post I do venture out once in a while when some buddy gets the time to call me out for a drink or two. This is what I have been upto for the last couple of weeks or so:

The last couple of weeks have again been quite hectic. Hooked up with Sporadic at the York for a very short time, as we both had other plans. He to go and meet 11B and I to get some personal matter sorted out. It was great meeting up with Sporadic as usual. He called the blonde CIS over to the table and introduced me to her. She is one of the blondes I have had on my Radar for quite sometime. But accomodation problems prevent me from indulging.

Met up with Abdulla, a friend from both the forums, for short spell. A old business friend of mine was also there and he had fixed up an appointment for me with one of his associates. It was all business related so we had to bid good night to Abdulla quite early.

During the past couple of weeks I visited F's place for some R&R. Sonnyboy arrived for a short visit. I went over to his hotel one afternoon and we went over to F's place together. Well usually I dont like seconds but since Sunnyboy is a buddy, and it was F, and all the other ladies have deserted F, I thought what the heck. In any case after SB had his session and left, F and I sat and discussed office politics, Her office politics not mine, for almost an hour before she hopped onto my lap and did a imprompto lap dance right there in the sitting room. Things got a bit hot and we decided the sofa was not the right place for what we had in mind. With one thing and the other I had my hands full for close to an hour. That lady is either a very good actress or a very horny woman. She had me doing acrobatics until I finished; sweating. Well I lay there for quite a while with her head on my shoulder. GFE to the core. Or good acting. Take your pick. But I had a great time.

The next week, thinking I would have a repeat of the last time, I went over to her place again. She had a surprise in store for me. A young, 19 year old I think, pretty ( I feel safe in calling her beautiful) girl was lolling on the sofa when I entered. F introduced me to the young lady. The cleavage on display left no room for doubt that the hooters on this one were not wonderbra enhanced. Big round ones stared me in the eye. F asked me if I would like to try her. She warned me that the young one had no experience. But that cleavage was tempting so I tempted fate and went with her. She had no attitude problems. She spoke good, pretty good really, English. And she knew all the terms. When I asked her if she knows what 69 means she laughed and said oh yes. She had seen xxx movies she informed me . But it was apparent she had little experience. A very willing student. And I was a happy tutor. And getting happier by the minute.

Last night met up with an old buddy from the forum, Cobolt. He and I had met sometime last year and since he was in town he gave me a buzz. While waiting for Cobolt to arrive I had to fend off a horde of African ladies, who wanted to hijack the chair I was holding on to for Cobolt. One of them was quite rude too. And I, quite uncharacteristicly was rude to her. I am not really sure but I have a vague feeling that in the heat of the moment I showed her the finger. Not really sure but it could have happened. :(

Vayager72 also joined up with us. We had a few drinks together and then Cobolt left to renew his acquaintance with F, Voyager went for a previous engagement and I went home.

All in all a hectic two weeks.

Justfun

Wicked Roger

09-29-05, 04:47

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Rant continues

The manager's attitude does have merit, but it must be FULLY implemented. I certainly don't like being annoyed, so let's ban the real culprits:[list]
Cricket. What's with all these guys discussing cricket? It's 2 hockey goalies (a REAL sport) running back and forth, back and forth, carrying Mrs. Jolly Green Giant cake frosting spreaders. And what kind of score is "256, declared; 3 wickets to spare"? Listen, a score is 256 to 228 PERIOD. And what REAL sport has a f*cking TEA break? Or Lunch? "Oh, bit of a googly on that, hey wot? Sticky wicket, that." Banned.

While this is not a forum to discuss the goods and the bads of sport, and I fully endorse most of 11B's continued rant, hockey is not a sport! Cricket is and so is rugby (the only real football).

OK, enough said, (Jackson - apologies but it had to be said to these hockey loving mongers!) and I hope that this does not mean loads of replies.

11B thanks for PMs. Do Dubai mongers ever come to AD, it is only an hour's drive but I suppose the ladies are as good there as here (some may disagree).

Keep hard and horny!

WR

Good Guy

09-29-05, 11:35

1. Sex Is Mans Favourite Sport.

2. Can Be Played By A Couple, Men Or Women Or More.

3. As With Any Sport You Need Protection To Have A Safe Game. Protection Required Is Much Less Than Most Other Sports.

4. The Only Sport Where Both Or All Players Could Be Winners.

5. Can Be Played Anywwhere At Any Time With Little Or No Equipment.

6. Game Can Be Continously Improved - Old With Young And Vice Versa.

7. Very Flexible Rules For This Sport And Can Be Made Up As You Play The Game.

8. Best Line To Intitiate This Sport For Mongers -
You Need The Money - I Need The Excercise.

9. Best Sport In Terms Of All Round Satisfaction - Physically And Mentally.

10. No Age Restrictions For Players.

Piper1

09-29-05, 13:10

... all you guys have been busy for the last few days/weeks I can see. ...I keep getting bogged down with work.

JS - I know the feeling (12-14 hour work days last few weeks!) Good to see you still manage to get out for a bit of mischief. I still manage occasionally.

Had an invitation for a repeat performance of Tuesday night's wild adventure again tonight, but I just cannot make it! No problems - the opportunity will arise again (and so will I ;) ) when they come back in a couple of weeks. I don't even have time to write a decent report about it yet. The short report is "Wow, wow and more wow!".

Listen JS, I may get to the Big Y next Friday for an early start. Pencil it in?

Sharaf - sorry - Saturday night is a work night, so I cannot make it.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

09-29-05, 16:07

Do Dubai mongers ever come to AD, it is only an hour's drive but I suppose the ladies are as good there as here (some may disagree).No.

Actually, I BELIEVE prices slightly lower in AD, but less selection. On the other hand, you only need to find 1 (or, in Piper's case, 2) that you find attractive. I do know some ladies do prefer AD as, even with lower prices, scene is lower key.

But, for me, when you're in the major leagues, why bother with the minors.

Piper1

09-29-05, 16:29

... On the other hand, you only need to find 1 (or, in Piper's case, 2) that you find attractive.

Hey! Now I'll have to make it three! The pressure the pressure ... ;)

I remember one night many moons ago, I'd had a few drinks too many, and brought home three girls. I started off with two girls, but my long-distance-calling Uzbeki "girlfriend" insisted on coming along. I sobered up a bit on the long taxi drive home and suddenly wondered how the hell I was going to handle three girls.

I looked at the driver. Movie star looks, and much younger than me. But an unappreciated hard job. I invited him up to "join the party". He was surprised but agreed instantly. When I asked the two new girls if one would go with him to the other bedroom, as he was my friend, both volunteered, dammit!!! I let him choose *one*. I'm generous, but not completely self-sacrificing!

Possibly the best tip he ever had. He left an hour or so later with a thousand ThankYous and a big smile.

Yet again, Piper added a little happiness to the universe. Sniff.

11Bravo

09-29-05, 16:46

Possibly the best tip he ever had. And to think of the story as HE tells it.

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New thread

The FAQ's are now located in [u]Thread's of Distinction[u]
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2026

Please read BEFORE posting questions.

Piper1

09-29-05, 16:55

and to think of the story as he tells it.

i know. :) i always make a point of chatting to cabbies - a source of info (about anything) second only to the internet.

some of the stories i've heard are truly amazing. and the younger good-looking ones have many more "perks" than you might imagine. apparently they are a source of no-strings fun for the "local" delicacies. the cabbies refuse to go to inside their homes, as they can be framed for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) (hmmm, reminds me of a recent news story?), but will take them elsewhere.

11Bravo

09-30-05, 11:17

Out last night at Seaview. Always a pleasure to see EverReady; doubled by also having ExpatCat make an appearance.

Seaview Thursday: Lot of civilian legit couples last night. Nothing wrong with that, but it does tend to make the place even more crowded. Also a number of punters, like me, brought their own date. Unfavorable M/F ratio, but don't know how many males there just for band (or else perhaps pulling at close). Chinese, african, CIS in that order of numbers. Did see one older CIS, 40ish. Sure hoped she was a madam, because if she was a worker...

2 -stanis- that would have made the to-do list, 4 or 5 chinese. But a number, if not spoken for already, had their target in-sight. Don't know how many successfully landed (do know one that did not). Being a weekend, it seems nowadays, there is a weekend surcharge, around 100, 200 for a stunner. When conventions are in town (GITEX - a BIG one, just finishing up), there is LESS chance of finding a bargain. Not saying you can't, but, if you don't meet her price, be prepared to see her walk. Of my 4, 5 attractive ones, most seemed to become quickly attached.
One nice thing about going to the Seaview on a weeknight: your requests get played IMMEDIATELY. On a weekend, they will come up sometime, but on weekends, it seems the band is more geared to "sets". Did ask a vocalist; they will be back after Ramadan - that is good news.

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Bit of 2nd hand info: Miss T had tried Cyclone for the 1st time.

- "too many ladies": that's good for us punters
- "too many people": that's bad for us punters

She did like their "fairness" policy: everybody paid the same, treated the same (no 1st/2nd class "citizens" ).

She had me laughing, "Many ladies tell me, if have big (breasts), go Cyclone, make good money. I go Cyclone, see many ladies, BIG. I SMALL (an a-cup) ; I stand in corner, shy."
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At least she and her circle of friends very cautious about York these days; "too many CID outside". They don't like staying late. So perhaps an incentive to make a deal early for LT.

Perhaps someone who has been to York of late can provide detail of how many ladies around 2am? (Been almost 3 months since I've been out in acquisition mode - how time does fly when you're having fun).

Mentioned to her that she should not wear her sleeveless top during Ramadan. Her reply? "I go store, buy a lot of food. I not go outside for 5 days."

Sporadic

09-30-05, 11:17

Last week had two providers who expressed serious concern about the pre-Ram crackdown.

It would appear that only those with a valid visa (typical for CIS is a sponsored six month visa) dare show up at a place like the York.

The undercover CID prowlers are also causing many to be more reticent about marketing, this may be a time when being a "know face" will serve you well.

I did prove the point that there is no such thing as a "non-gf" hotel. After speaking to three rungs of managers, I was given tacit approval with suggested times for arrival/departure (to minimize the stares.) The word filtered down to the door staff, and reception seemed to always look the other way...

I was planning on the "tips" method, but my hotel did not seem conducive to this, so I tried the brass method.

I will admit that this took a bit of shameless brass on my part, but we all know that in DXB there is a pecking order, and if you are accepted as being one rung up on the guy you are negotiating with, you can win.

I took the added precaution of booking a taxi for the ladies to minimize any wait in front of the hotel. Slight logistics challenge, but functional.

At the end of the day, what do I care what Mr. Hotelier thinks? and by bringing them onboard, the call to LE will never happen.

Just my experience, YMMV.

Cheers,

Sporadic

11Bravo

09-30-05, 11:27

I did prove the point that there is no such thing as a "non-gf" hotel. You are the man. Last night, at Seaview, the first thing the waitress asked, after "what would you like to drink", was, "When will Sporadic be arriving?" I didn't even get a "Nice to see you again". ;)

JustSumFun

09-30-05, 16:34

SoftLover

09-30-05, 21:08

Had a little outing this afternoon on the excuse that a friend was in town just for 3 days and was leaving this evening.

Well there was certainly a friend in town who was leaving this evening. Cobolt. But I did not know his itenirary so decided I would check out F's itenirary instead. Called her and she was pleased as usual to have me come over. She said she had a beautiful Moldovian girl at her place. Mecrazy had seen this lady walk in yesterday with her baggage so it was no surprise to me that there was someone new there.

But J would have done fine too. J is the one with lovely hooters and a very beautiful face and lovely attitude. The one I mentioned earlier this week. J was out on an outcall. There was this lovely slim girl at the place with F. N ( another N!!) said she has been in dubai for the last 4 months. Asked her where she used to work before. Cyclone she said. I took that with a pinch of salt. Not that she could not have been working at Cyclone. She looked pretty enough to be allowed in over there. But I thought perhaps she was from the Rockefellas or Staying alive. Quite pretty with a nice shape. Narrow waist, I thought I could span the waist with my two hands. So I did. Just to make sure.

Small pert hooters. Gravity had no effect on them. Very firm. She was excellent in service. And the grand finale was the squeezing action down there. That was some thing you rarely encounter, especially in the CIS.

BBBJ and DATY were no problem. She got so wet I thought we would need a couple of towels. And she did not let go until she finished. Seemed to enjoy it. But then who knows. A cyclone girl. She could be acting.

When I came out of the bedroom, J had arrived. Seeing her I wondered who I would have picked if J was there when I arrived. N or J. Maybe a toss of coin would have been required.

F's stable is getting some lovely ones. Hope these two stick around.

JustfunInteresting. I found this other post on another site which reads as follows:

Had a little outing this afternoon on the excuse that a friend was in town just for 3 days and was leaving this evening.

Well there was certainly a friend in town who was leaving this evening. Cobolt. But I did not know his itenirary so decided I would check out F's itenirary instead. Called her and she was pleased as usual to have me come over. She said she had a beautiful Moldovian girl at her place. Mecrazy had seen this lady walk in yesterday with her baggage so it was no surprise to me that there was someone new there.

But J would have done fine too. J is the one with lovely hooters and a very beautiful face and lovely attitude. The one I mentioned earlier this week. J was out on an outcall. There was this lovely slim girl at the place with F. N ( another N!!) said she has been in dubai for the last 4 months. Asked her where she used to work before. Cyclone she said. I took that with a pinch of salt. Not that she could not have been working at Cyclone. She looked pretty enough to be allowed in over there. But I thought perhaps she was from the Rockefellas or Staying alive. Quite pretty with a nice shape. Narrow waist, I thought I could span the waist with my two hands. So I did. Just to make sure.

Small pert hooters. Gravity had no effect on them. Very firm. She was excellent in service. And the grand finale was the squeezing action down there. That was some thing you rarely encounter, especially in the CIS.

BBBJ and DATY were no problem. She got so wet I thought we would need a couple of towels. And she did not let go until she finished. Seemed to enjoy it. But then who knows. A cyclone girl. She could be acting.

When I came out of the bedroom, J had arrived. Seeing her I wondered who I would have picked if J was there when I arrived. N or J. Maybe a toss of coin would have been required.

F's stable is getting some lovely ones. Hope these two stick around.

Justfun

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cut'n paste?

San70

09-30-05, 21:10

F's stable is getting some lovely ones. Hope these two stick around. JustfunHi JSF,

Nice to know that. Last time I went, the two girls I saw were on the heavier side, not my type. I like petite ones.

Went to the CIS/ Indian house at Deira today after a long gap. Generally they used to have one or two doable girls among the usual crowd of six to eight mixed race girls. But this time I was pleasantly surprised to see almost six russians/CIS girls who were all young, petite and good looking and they were all new. at least to me. two indians too whom I didn't even look at.

It was difficult to chose between the blondes and brunettes. but finally managed to zero in on a young slim brunette with small but firm titties. very nice service too. including dfk, BJ and fs in almost all positions. With her clothes off she looked dangerously young but when asked she just wouldn't tell. just hope she was legal. definitely not unexperienced so chances are that she is. btw. great kisser. and great nipples.

Its kinda funny when I think about how my taste has changed over the years I have been in dubai. my first "regular" was a chinese (for almost two years) and I, invariably always took chinese girls for their professionalism, service and petite bodies. I took a few CIS for some flavour change from Imperial but. well. wasn't impressed.

Then I came across these boards, met JSF and had some good CIS experiences. finally met Leila and everything changed. for better ofcourse. now I don't even think about chinese food. err. I mean girls.

The main difference the PRC and CIS girls, I think is the communication part. While most chinese girls speak horrible english. that too in a funny accent. CIS girls communicate better and learn fast.

Kissing: Chinese with their thin lips are lousy kissers, with CIS girls, its. umm. so delicious.

GFE: CIS girls, in my opinion are much more emotionaly vulnerable and lonely than chinese ones who always huddle together. Treating a CIS girl nice and fair is generally rewarded with nice GFEs and lots of extra freebies.

I did have my fair of experiences with Indian and Pakistani girls too. none worth mentioning. Its not that the stunners don't exist there but they get plucked instantly. by plucked I mean by some guy who is generous enough to take them out of the business and may be even marry them. there are loads of lonely indian men in dubai.

just my two cents. don't take that much seriously. a bit tipsy today.

San

Sporadic

09-30-05, 22:49

Bravo, the only reason they remember me at Seaview is tips... and the fact that I am with you most of the time ;)

Jsf, PLEASE, not another "N!" I have had more than my share of N´s for the time being! ;)

Seriously, the brass factor is minimal, I simply used their prejudice against them.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Ramsis

10-01-05, 00:17

Hi all,

This is the first time I write but I must say I'm very impressed with this forum since it was only wsg. I don't have time now to write much but I must say it's very useful. I travel a lot to Europe, the Middle East, Africa and even The States. Used all info in different threads, especially Spain and Belgium, and most of all Dubai. I've been to Dubai maybe 15 times but was only on the watching side. I never got in action. What I only knew was the Cyclone. Each time I go to Dubai I visit it once just to have fun. I never pulled. I must say this last time which was like 2 weeks ago I wasn't impressed much by the quality of CIS. I like CIS and Russians, mostly due to previous experiances, but the selection wasn't good enough as before but it's my taste and personal preference. So thanks to this forum the last 4 times I went there I checked different places, TGIT, Jocky's, York, Regal and others and had wider selection.

First trip I pulled a Russian from TGIT for 400 DH 2 hours called Oxana. Well it was ok but not that great as she didn't like kissing because she had a BF! That night I saw her again in Regal saying she can kiss if I take her and that she left her BF. Funny thing she kept messaging me even after I travelled. Marketing! Well for me BTW. I'm not as in profile. I'm 30 from arabic country. What I like is having a nice time, and in my term nice time means great time. I treat her like a fuck and I expect the same. I try to bond, connect with the girl and it pays a lot. What attracts me is not the looks first or the body but the spirit, the humor, the smile, some little things but I can tell by them how good it can be. What turns me on is kissing and I like long sessions with multiple shots.

3 months ago I met Julia. She was Ukranian from Cyclone. We agreed on 700 LT. went back to my hotel at 12 and she left at 6 am. We really had great time, she will never forget. I made her cumm like 14 times and I used 12 condoms. Well when I am turned on, there is no going back. After the 10th she was exhausted, but I got her room service, she ate and smoked, then back in action. I tried to cal her this time but the number wasn't working, mobile closed so I think she returned back home: (

So this time I met a very lovely Russian. She said she was from Ukrain. I cannot reveal the name or number because it's special. She spoke little English, so her friend helped her in translating. We agreed on 700 LT for next day and she came to the hotel round 11. I had a great time and she stayed till 12 next day. She came 10 times and I used 9 condoms. BBBJ endless. Great GFE and she was very sensitive. I made her turn off her mobile. Lucky for me I had a translator which use so we could communicate. She told me she had to pay her boss like 11000$ for the visa and everything. She was only 2 weeks in dubai. next day I called her and she came again round 11 but told me her boss told her not to close her moble and to leave at 6 and if she stays she must et more money! Well 6 was enough for me. We kissed and off we went. I used 7 condoms. Great time. Great service and all she was enjoying herself but she got really tired. At the end, she just lied still saying too much jaga jaga. LOL. she taught me some russian too and called me her Daragoy. I treat her with love and respect and really enjoyed my time a lot. and before she went I gave her extra 100$ which she was surprised and almost cried but rewarded me with a long BBBJ with CIM before whe left.

Well, that's the kind of girls I like. wish I could see Layla. The one mentioned many posts before. Well, my new girl wil stay in Dubai for 11 year, so I hope I see her again when I return.

Moral of story. Treat them well and you will be surprised and they are humans and they are really lots of times abused and mistreated. I hate clock watchers, fakers, mechanical service machines. I always look for genuine people.

Cheers

Piper1

10-01-05, 08:55

Quickie post, that is ;)

Popped into York last night for a couple of drinks and a bit of pool. Very quiet, but a few very nice new faces. Ramadan ahoy.

cheers

Piper

PS - I feel this post should be nominated as a "Report of Distinction". LOL

Piper1

10-01-05, 08:56

Piper1

10-01-05, 10:21

First trip I pulled a Russian ... called Oxana ... she didn't like kissing because she had a BF! That night I saw her again in Regal saying she can kiss if I take her and that she left her BF.
ROTFL! Took her a long time to get over him.

My friend, be considerate of girls in Regal who lost their boyfriend that very same evening. They may think they want the comfort of your "kisses" to get over him, but they really only want a shoulder to cry on, and a few hundred DH. ;)

Also - you used 12 condoms? - how could you feel anything through 12 condoms? And you made her come 14 times in a few hours?! What's the secret? Best I've managed is 13. ;) Still ROTFL.

cheers,

Piper

Piper1

10-01-05, 10:30

JS - Softlover is onto you - stop cheating! ;)

Ah this site gives me a few laughs just when I need it - love it!

cheers

Piper

Interesting. I found this other post on another site which reads as follows:

Had a little outing this afternoon on the excuse that a friend was in town ... Hope these two stick around.

Justfun
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cut'n paste?

11Bravo

10-01-05, 13:47

Here is the statement that caught my eye today (highlight my emphasis)

From Tabloid, Gulf News, 1 Oct05:
The lawyer said the divorce cases he handles are not due to such incompatible couples and mixed marriages, "The files that I have are cases in which both parties are local," he said. Asked the reason for such divorces, he only said, "Look to the streets."

JS - Softlover is onto you - stop cheating! There is just no fooling some people. I've even heard rumors that others double-post. Yikes!

San70

10-01-05, 15:34

Yet another Gulf News story (abridged):

Dubai: Young girls fall prey to older men for a price: Sham marriages

Elderly men from the UAE and other Gulf states are once again heading for Hyderabad, a city in south India.

In the early days of the oil boom, men from this region went to this city looking for young brides. When the girls arrived here, they quickly realised that they were often relegated to the status of the second or third wife in a huge household. Some were even treated as housemaids.

[Often the men] have a quick marriage, and a quicker divorce. Many times such a liaison costs as little as Dh300.

Anyone with local knowledge heard of this?Yes It does happen in Hyderabad, India. There are many poor muslim families in hyderabad who fall prey to this practice through some local agents..however wouldn't agree with the minimum price tag of dhs 300..I believe the minumum would dhs 3000 and upwards for a proper marriage and honeymon would last at least a week before he flies back leaving the young bride with a verbal divorce.

There are many realistic bollywood movies on this subject. The one I watched was named "Market" which portrayed one such girl who had to resort to prostitution after being divorced. Being a bollywood movie. It however ended with the heroin taking revenge after landing in Dubai, and eventually beating and killing the bastard with the help of her mafia boyfriend. Doesn't always happen in real life..

By the way most of the Indian wgs in Dubai are from the same region and are poor muslim girls who either willingly or forced to join the flesh trade to help out their poor families back home. Same story with pakistani girls.

San

San70

10-01-05, 15:46

I made her cumm like 14 times and I used 12 condoms.
She came 10 times and I used 9 condoms.
We kissed and off we went. I used 7 condoms.Very interesting..Yeah...whats with using all those condoms? What does it do? Thicken the penis or delaying getting off? Does it help her to cum more? Whats the secret?

Well, that's the kind of girls I like. wish I could see Layla. The one mentioned many posts before. Man, I wish that more than anybody else..:)

San

Sporadic

10-01-05, 16:43

You guys are out of my league. I know she came once, because she CAME to my hotel room.

The most I ever managed was 6 condoms, one per stroke, total elapsed time 78 seconds. Funny, she would not kiss me at first either!

Cheers,

Sporadic

Ps. I was going to cross-post something, but with you sleuths on the job, I would not dare!

Basiq

10-01-05, 18:45

Piper1

10-01-05, 20:06

Very interesting..Yeah...whats with using all those condoms? What does it do? Thicken the penis or delaying getting off? Does it help her to cum more? Whats the secret?
Man, I wish that more than anybody else..:)

San

I'm sure Ramsis meant he used 12 condoms over 12 bonks (not all 12 at once) - I was just having a cheeky laugh. No offence Ramsis. An illustrious story.

As for making a girl come 14 times, there's a running joke in the country where I was raised:

Question: How can you make sure a woman has an orgasm.
Answer: Who cares?

(But I wasn't born in that country ;) )

Cheers,

Piper

PS - I just received some pics via email of last week's double-penetration adventure. Gave me an instant hard-on looking at them (vivid memories!) I had a chat with D, who took them, and he said I could post them. Will need to re-size, rotate and edit them before posting. Oh, for those who only check this site for the articles, I will write a report also. ;)

Mikewalker

10-01-05, 22:09

Hi Guys,

I am moving to Dubai next weekend with my missus coming over a few weeks later. I have at least 2 weeks of freedom to meet some girls. My company are providing accom in the springs which seems a long way from the action. Are there any nearby pick up joints to there. My preference is thai, filipino, malay girls. I would prefer not to take girls back to springs as there is security on the gates. Where is it usual to take girls for ST, is it always back to your own accom or are there any ST hotels like in HK for instance?

Thanks

Malveros

10-02-05, 00:41

11Bravo

10-02-05, 03:38

i would prefer not to take girls back to springs as there is security on the gates. where is it usual to take girls for st, is it always back to your own accom or are there any st hotels like in hk for instance?for venues, search on posts by piper. he's been to a few out that way. for accomodations, ask the girl - she'll know. some will have their own place, or will know. dallas hotel - downtown bur dubai, used to be ok, but you will need to register (bring your passport).

i reply, i'm a resident and i have a villa in nice area in dubai. suddenly she decline and tells me she only goes to hotels!! bottom line: she doesn't trust you. maybe you have 5 buddies waiting back at your place for an involuntary gang bang. maybe you're cid.

suggestion: let her pick a st hotel, or find a girl who has her own place. build up credibility that you are legit.

i'm sure ramsis meant he used 12 condoms over 12 bonks (not all 12 at once) duh.

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hey, i use so many condoms, i have spinney's on speed dial, and they will deliver.

Ramsis

10-02-05, 07:14

[QUOTE=Piper1]I'm sure Ramsis meant he used 12 condoms over 12 bonks (not all 12 at once) - I was just having a cheeky laugh. No offence Ramsis. An illustrious story.

Well that's what I like most long sessions. So we head on 1 finish, then short break, smoke then we go on another and so on each in different position or different taste. remember you acheived BONDING and RAPPORT and it's not BUSSINESS anymore for her. First thing I say after giving the money UPFRONT is now forget about the money. I want her to be happy, and most of all want her to want me. I say if you don't want me you can leave now or any time.

As for making a girl come 14 times, there's a running joke in the country where I was raised:

Question: How can you make sure a woman has an orgasm. Answer: Who cares?

Well, see that's the difference. I care, and it's her desire that feeds mine. and beleive me some were really surprised of it cause it never happened to them but again eachone's experiances, methodologies and preferences are different. And they did cumm. LOL. Funny thing how each woman cumms in a different way. I've been with lots of nationalities in my life. Moroccans, Lebanese, Algerians, Spanish, Chineses, Moldovians, Ukranians, Russians, Romanians. Women cumm in different and sometimes funny way. I loved the last one, the Russian as when she cumms she fully shakes, vibrating her whole buddy continously. And the feeling is just enorm. She said she was 24 when I met her but later she told me she was 31. Back to women. So one makes funny sound like snoring. other screams and closes her eyes. other bites he lips. Other screams mamy. Which was kinda funny. LOL. Other which I didn't like wants to be hit on the face. It turns her on. well I'm not into rough sex.

As for girls. good and bad about newbies. they arein need of money, they have a boss which they cannot disobey so no chance of free nights. Good thing is they have this fresh look and feeling. And lots never did this before and came to Dubai to get money to support family or open their own project like a beauty center or hair salon. as for independent (no boss) they are in control of their time and they can go out with you or even come see you if they want to.

Some girls I find no explanation for their behavior. I mean I'm a good judge of character. But sometimes, very rarely I get disapointed, like meeting a girl, having a good conversation and taking her number and having much fun, but when calling you get no answer. Well for them I know as others it's just business but I expected more at lest to answer or say sorry busy or I simply don't like. like a sheshani girl I met in Jocky's.

Other place rarely mentioned is Trader Vic's in Crown Plaza. You find few high end girls on the bar but asking for 1000, and the selection wasn't that good this time.

Anyway,

Have fun

Piper1

10-02-05, 09:51

Hi All,

I have a question here. Many times I tried to get a girl of my choice to come with me I fail! I mean she smile at me, I walk to her and we start a nice chat and discuss the $ once agreed, the ultimate question, which hotel I'm staying in? I reply, I'm a resident and I have a villa in nice area in Dubai. Suddenly she decline and tells me she only goes to hotels!! Now is the working girls mostly into tourist and visitors? I though the majority of guys are residents!

Regards

Basiq - I live in a villa in a "nice" area also - never had the problem of a girl refusing outright to come home, but have had a couple of "hesitations".

Are you a young local guy? They often have the problem of girls refusing to go to their villas due to the "game" of picking up a girl or two and bringing them back to the villa where 5 or 6 drunk guys are waiting to gang-bang them. Happens a lot, and word gets around. One girl told me how she was basically kidnapped by two guys and taken to a small village an hour away where 6 drunk guys had her. She feared for her life, so you can understand their fear.

Anyhow, I'm sure if you ask as few more girls, you will find some who agree to come to your home.

Cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-02-05, 10:15

Hi Guys,
My company are providing accom in the springs which seems a long way from the action. Are there any nearby pick up joints to there. I would prefer not to take girls back to springs as there is security on the gates. Where is it usual to take girls for ST, is it always back to your own accom or are there any ST hotels like in HK for instance?
Thanks
Mike - if you do decide to take a girl to Springs - Amnesia upstairs from Hard Rock Cafe is between 7 and 30 minutes from Springs, depending on traffic. Security at Springs gates shouldn't be an issue (correct me if I'm wrong). As for Malay girls etc - don't be so fussy - take a nice CIS or Asian gal. ;)

ST hotels - I managed to strike a deal near Amnesia one recent afternoon, but one of the managers knew me.

Other option is to head for Bur Dubai - lots of girls have their own places (usually shared).

cheers

Piper

Malveros - thanks for the info - I knew there was name for the practice. Life is full of loopholes ;)

Piper1

10-02-05, 10:52

So, no-one wants to mention the Gulf News sex story of the day? I know I won't. One lump or two?

11Bravo

10-02-05, 20:55

Prime indication that you've been in-coutry too long.

Very surprised to see a story like this in a "family" newspaper. However, following form (never naming individuals in negative stories), the newspaper did NOT name the camel. So for all you punters hoping for a contact number...

Gulf News, page 3, 2 October 2005

A STRANGE LOVE AFFAIR
Driver jailed for bestiality
Camel to be put down as man admits to abusing employer's animal

Ras Al Khaimah

A man has been sentenced to three months in jail after pleading guilty to charges of bestiality. The camel involved in the case is to be put down in accordance with Islamic law.

A court official said the Bangladeshi, who worked as a driver, had been spotted going into his employer's barn on a regular basis. His employer became suspicious as his duties did not involve him dealing with animals. The official said the employer, a UAE national, followed his driver into the barn one day and saw him starting to have sex with a female camel.

The owner lost his temper and started beating him. He then took him to the police station to press charges. The official said the driver confessed to police that he used to have sex with one particular camel. The police arrested him and the case was referred to the Public Prosecution. The official added the man told the prosecution that he had fallen in love with the camel and had sex with the animal.

The emirate's Criminal Court sentenced him on Wednesday to three months in jail, to be followed by deportation. It also stated that the camel be put down as its meat would now be tainted. The animal will be put down at the emirate's slaughterhouse, a representative from the Public Prosecution will be in attendance.

Now HERE is a guy who could have used 12 condoms. And I thought the worst offense that you'd have to admit to your fellow inmates would be "insulting islam". What is this guy going to say? "Having sex with my special female friend". How do you explain to your home village why you came home early? What is that ban stamp in his passport going to include? Owner lost his temper - No doubt was thinking his camel's were monogamous. You know, those camels can be such flirts at times, with those big, long, fluttering eyelashes. There is no truth to the rumor that the russian mafia is trying to recruit camels to work in Jockeys with false promises of "higher income/better working conditions/better retirement option" Camel will be put down - Why are the innocents punished?

Reminded me of the old joke: ant asks to have sex with an elephant. Elephant laughs. But ant persists. Elephant finally agrees. Ant climbs up, begins. Just then a hunter shoots the elephant. Elephant sinks to its knees, groaning. Ant says, "Suffer, baby, suffer".

11Bravo

10-02-05, 21:00

The info you have given on hyderabadi women in India is only partly correct and it does not hold true for Pakistani women. A quick divorce after a week happens very seldom. Don't mean to contradict you, but the story in the Gulf News implied that it was frequent enough that some mullahs? immams? whatever were concerned. And they did say it was sometimes for as short as a day, sometimes a week. Just repeating what the article said.

For the record, here is the article.
Indecent Proposal

Poor teenage Muslim girls from the south Indian city of Hyderabad have again become the target of middle-aged men from the UAE and other Gulf states. A well-established racket operates with the connivance of taxi drivers at the airport and clerics to bypass local laws and "marry" the girls off for sums as little as Dh300. A senior Muslim scholar in Dubai has condemned these convenience marriages, saying they are haram or prohibited, and has called for laws to stop them.

The city of Hyderabad in South India is known for its biryani, its natural pearl market and, unfortunately, its pretty girls. It has one of the largest urban Muslim populations in India. The majority live in the old quarter of this historic city, which has had close contacts with the Arab world for centuries.

The Nizam, or ruler, of Hyderabad once had an army comprising mainly Yemenis. Their ancestors now live in an area of town called the barkas, apparently the Indianisation of the English word barracks.

Today, every third household in the old city has a family member working in one of the six Gulf states. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, at the height of the oil boom, huge numbers of expatriates arrived in the Gulf, and at the same time Arabs headed for this city seeking young brides.

According to reports about 3,000 Hyderabadi Muslim girls were being "sold off" by their poverty-stricken parents to rich Arab men every year. Many were later reportedly found working as maids in their new homes. Such marriages were finally stopped when the state Awqaf board made it mandatory to get police clearance for marriages with foreigners.

Recently there has been a change in tactics. Middle-aged Arabs now come to this city as "medical tourists", pay as little as Dh300 to the parents and marry
and divorce the girl all in one week.

"It's a well established racket," says Amarnath K. Menon, assistant editor of India Today, who has written extensively on this issue. He says there is a local nexus of taxi drivers, marriage brokers and qazis -clerics who perform the so-called weddings.

"These are extremely poor girls whose parents are daily wage earners," he said. The qazis apparently also run "guest houses" for these visitors.

The state cannot intervene because the clergy would complain that Muslim personal law is being violated.

Menon said the most recent case involved a girl named Ameena whose Arab husband had deserted her. She is now married to a rickshaw puller.

"The numbers have come down. There are less than a few hundred such cases today," he said.

A senior police officer in Hyderabad told Gulf News that the police are keeping a sharp watch on the "guest houses" and the marriage touts.

"Parents don't realise that these children could get infected with Aids and other diseases," said Tejdeep Kaur, additional commissioner of police.

She said the police are working closely with the local NGO (non-government organisation) to teach skills such as tailoring to these abandoned girls. "We are
trying to educate the women about the health hazards of such marriages," she said.

The police officer said it was sad that the girls themselves favoured this arrangement, apparently because it brings some money into the poor households.

Ali Asghar, a social worker and secretary of the Hyderabad-based Confederation of Voluntary Associations (Cova), said the police are now trying to check the movement of foreigners.

"The police are on the hunt for the qazis," he said.

He said the marriage and divorce papers are given at the same time by the qazis.

He said this situation was created by "Gulf money".

Marriage expenses have risen dramatically, he said. Then there is the scourge of the dowry system, in which the bride's father must pay huge sums to the groom and his family.

"Even the poor aspire to the same things," he said, and this is how they fall prey to easy money. It was reported that clerics and Muslim elders have begun
preaching against the dowry and the misuse of Muslim law governing divorce.

Asked whether the clerics are raising this issue intlieir Friday sermons in Hyderabad mosques, Asghar said, "Not at all."

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Case study
Fatima Abdul Quyyum finally went home to Hyderabad recently after spending seven years in a Ras Ai Khaimah jail.

She was a pretty 18-year-old when she arrived in the UAE, married to an 8S-year-old man. But the years in jail had taken their toll and she was no longer an attractive teenager when she was freed after the payment of blood money.

Fatima had been convicted of killing her husband. She had told the court she was innocent and that it must have been one of her relatives who had done it when he heard about her unhappy marriage.

S.A. Saleem, president of the Ras Ai Khaimah Indian Association, said the husband's family had demanded Dhl5O,OOO in blood money.

"We bargained hard and finally brought it down to Dh5O,OOO," he said.

The social worker said the Indian government is now making it difficult for young girls to leave the country. "They are not given visas:' he said.

This legislation was passed after the dramatic rescue of another young Hyderabadi girl several years ago when she was noticed by an alert stewardess on a flight to the Gulf. The stewardess alerted the authorities and the news made front pages in India.
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Stop them, says Islamic scholar

An Islamic scholar has called for regulations to curb short-term marriages between middle-aged men and young Asian girls, saying they bring shame and embarrassment not only to themselves but to the country.

He said in Islam certain conditions must be met to make marriage a genuine social contract between man and woman.

But he said divorce is usually the first stipulation for some foreign marriages. This type of liaison violates Sharia law and is meant to deny the woman her rights, said Dr Saif Bin Rashid AI Gabiri, Director of Ifta and Research at the Department of Islamic Affairs and Charitable Activities in Dubai.

"This unhealthy phenomenon has a negative effect on the person, the country and the society he belongs to," he said. "We must remember that each of us is an ambassador for his country."

He said these incidents were more common in the 1970s and early 1980s. "Elderly men went abroad looking for wives because they could not find a mate here," he said. "They were rejected by society."

The scholar said today middle-aged men go abroad basically to satisfy their desires. "This must be controlled,"' he said, suggesting that these marriages can be legalised only if the man has some sort of pre-nuptial approval from the authorities here. "We should work towards preserving the rights of
others," he said.

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Impossible, says lawyer

A lawyer said it is impossible to control people going abroad for illicit purposes.

"How can you stop someone going to India or Thailand, say, for medical treatment?" said Mukhtar Gareeb, a lawyer who handles divorce cases in Dubai.

He said India and other Asian countries must adopt legislation to "protect their children, to take care of their daughters. We cannot do that," he said.

The lawyer said the divorce cases he handles are not due to such incompatible couples and mixed marriages. "The files that I have are cases in which both parties are local, " he said.

Asked the reason for such divorces, he only said, "Look to the streets."

11Bravo

10-03-05, 03:21

remember you acheived BONDING and RAPPORT and it's not BUSSINESS anymore for her. First thing I say after giving the money UPFRONT Contradiction in terms. If you're giving her money, THEN it is business.

Not saying you can't have fun, both enjoy, have a good time, the GFE; sounds like you do. But as long as you are paying money, then, by definition, it IS business. It's a GF experience, not a GF.

ExpatCat

10-03-05, 05:41

Ah well, another weekend lost in the melee that is Dubai.
It started badly with the Brass Budgie (golden falcon- gulf air) arriving late. Why is this typical these days for a short flight from Bahrain, especially at 15:00hrs. Twice I've tried to fly in on this flight, two strikes out.
I digress. Due to GITEX and a screw up on the booking I could only get into the Vendome Plaza Hotel. AVIOD IT, it's a dump and charges for girls (see hotel thread). Since I got in too late to do anything interesting on Wednesday, and haveing been told that the hotel would charge I decided not to risk bringing a girl back that evening and decided to slum it. My destination was the Garage in the Ramee which was on the same side of the creek as Vendome (Deira). Trust me to get the one taxi driver who didn't know where to go.

Ended up at Staying Alive in the Imperial Suites. Still sleazy enough for me though and it's been a long time since I've looked in. Now I remember why. The M/F ratio was very skewed to the M. Too many exhibitor type messing up the market. Not enough girls. Dhs 50 to get in, with a drink. Bouncers being very strict with this rule, a new one on me, so I ordered a pint and took a wander. It didn't take long for a couple of Chinese to hook up with me. One was about 5'4" in heels and the second was about 5'2". Not grade A lookers, but they marketed themselves well and looked as if they had reasonable knockers. Price negotiated for a threesome was Dhs 600/-. That was for both of them, not separately. That didnt' seem unreasonable so off we went in a taxi for their room.
Actually it turned out to be the room of a 'friend/madam' for which I was fleeced a further Dhs 100. By this time I was just a little horny and so succumbed. In no time we were all naked and I was DATY on the small one. Her tits were magnificent. Large for her frame, in fact she asked me if they were too big ! I replied negatively and just had a good suck. They laid me on the bed with the tall one (Ju Jun ?) looking after my dick and one quick manoever later, the small one sitting on my face. A condom was rapidly applied and tall one slipped herself onto my tool. Little one moved from DATY and started rubbing her tits on my chest while I was fingering her. She was very wet at this stage.
Nice feeling, two birds administring to your needs. Tall got off on me and decided that it was time to screw small. What I had forgotten is that Chinese bonk serially, not in parallel. So, off the tool, off with the condom (to be replaced by another) and onto small. Took her doggy wth tall stroking me and playing with my balls. As I was feeling like coming I turned small around and pounded her mish. Finished quite quickly after that.
And that was it. The girls started getting dressed and bundled me out of the flat. Thank god taxis prowl all over Dubai. A slow shaky walk to the main drag soon got me to a main road and a taxi back to the hotel. The bar in the hotel was crap. About three girls and a gaggle of men of arab persuasion. Nothing at all to write home about, and so to bed.

Thursday. Woke late and onto a meeting before braving the GITEX shopper at the Airport. No time for a lunchtime session at TGIF. Finished late at the shopper, and onto GITEX for another meeting. Arrived just as my contact was leaving so we retired to the bar (as one does). I didn't realise that you could get Belgian Trappist beer in DXB. Good strong flavoursome stuff.
Grabbed a bite to eat in Regal Plaza in the bar downstairs. It's a sport bar and there were no prospects in at that hour. When I left, upstairs was beginning to show interest with CIS beginning to filter in. On another day I might have tried.
However, I was meeting Bravo in the Seaview. Great band in that place, and since it was just before Ramadan, they were getting ready to leave for a month. Met Bravo and Everready in the bar. Good to see you guys. Tore a strip off Bravo for his rant. Honestly, trust these colonialists not to be able to pronounce 'association' and having to shorten it to 'soccer'. Wimps. . . and their 'mans' game has to be played with protective gear so they don't hurt themselves. Ha ! Try playing rugby ! Mind you, ICE Hockey does seem to be the only game I know where the officials let the players beat three shades of shit out of each other. Do they still play it or has the league fallen apart through infighting and nepotism ?

Back on track. A couple of very tasty Chinese approached our table. ER and Bravo had brought their own (coals to Newcastle ?) so I was free to letch without any problems of 'stealing' anyone from the boys. A very tasty lass in white sidled up to me and started marketing subtly. I was very tempted, but at the back of my mind I had the problem of the Dhs 200 at the hotel. This had to be factored in, so her price of Dhs500, while very reasonable, had to be rejected. Under normal circumstances I would have been out of the door like a whippet. That night, not on. However, not long after she moved away I was approached by a second girl in white. Same subtle approach, but managed to negotiate Dhs 300. This fitted the bill so off we went.

I tried to be clever and took the stairs up to the mezzanine floor to avoid the walk of shame. No WAY ! Bastards caught us and back downstairs we went to pay up, give passport copy and let us loose. Did I say AVOID the Vendome Plaza ! A good session followed, all the usual, DATY, mish, doggy, cowgirl, with a repeat in the morning. Nice, though nothing special. I was still smarting from being screwed by the hotel. Still, a root is a root, and you live and learn.
I've reported the fiasco when she left in the hotel thread.

On the whole, I've had better weekends in DXB, but it was a break from the old routine. Next time I'll have to stay on track and try a CIS lass. There's a surfeit of orientals in Bahrain, and I don't want to pay silly money in the Phonecia just for a bit of CIS tail, no matter how nice it is.

That's all for now. Look forward to my next trip, or at least the 'trouble' going away in three weeks.

Cheers,

Expatcat

Piper1

10-03-05, 08:44

Very surprised to see a story like this in a "family" newspaper. However, following form (never naming individuals in negative stories), the newspaper did NOT name the camel. So for all you punters hoping for a contact number...

Gulf News, page 3, 2 October 2005

A STRANGE LOVE AFFAIR
Driver jailed for bestiality
Camel to be put down as man admits to abusing employer's animal ...

Now HERE is a guy who could have used 12 condoms. And I thought the worst offense that you'd have to admit to your fellow inmates would be "insulting islam". What is this guy going to say? "Having sex with my [i]special female friend". How do you explain to your home village why you came home early? What is that ban stamp in his passport going to include? Owner lost his temper - No doubt was thinking his camel's were monogamous. You know, those camels can be such flirts at times, with those big, long, fluttering eyelashes. There is no truth to the rumor that the russian mafia is trying to recruit camels to work in Jockeys with false promises of "higher income/better working conditions/better retirement option" Camel will be put down - Why are the innocents punished?

Reminded me of the old joke: ant asks to have sex with an elephant. Elephant laughs. But ant persists. Elephant finally agrees. Ant climbs up, begins. Just then a hunter shoots the elephant. Elephant sinks to its knees, groaning. Ant says, "Suffer, baby, suffer".

Bravo, Bravo. ROTFFLOL! You're a funny guy.

Her name: Camelia?
Gladys will do.

Next time someone offers him a cigarette and it's a Camel, he can honestly say he's given up for health reasons.

"Camels to work in Jockeys..." I love it!

Alternative punch-line I've heard to the ant joke: "Yeah!! Take it all baby! Take it all!"

cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-03-05, 10:24

Okay Ramsis - I wasn't sure if you were serious or kidding. If you can make a girl come 14 times in a few hours, good for you.

[She said she was 24 when I met her but later she told me she was 31. You mean she fibbed about her age? Hope that's all she was fibbing about. ;)

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that's what I like about most long sessions. We finish, then short break, smoke, then we go on another and so on ...
Reminds me - my doctor told me to cut down my smoking. He suggested I start by only smoking after sex. I followed his advice, and now I'm down to a packet a day.

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Anyhow, sounds like you've had many interesting experiences, you enjoy them, and you want the girls to enjoy also. A good way to be. Good to see new contributors. Keep up your interesting posts.

cheers

Piper

San70

10-03-05, 11:40

The short marriages you refer to that happen in Iran and Iraq are known as Mutah and it happens only in the Shiite Muslim community and not in mainstream Sunnis.

San 70,

The info you have given on hyderabadi women in India is only partly correct and it does not hold true for Pakistani women. A quick divorce after a week happens very seldom. I wouldn't go as far to trust the "realistic" Bollywood movies.

Cheers,

MalReally?

following is a news clip from "the telegraph" archives of last year.

‘Marriage’ veil for sex workers
RASHEED KIDWAI

Karachi, Dec. 4: More and more sex workers in Pakistan are practising “mutah” — a short marriage contract — to gain a sense of legitimacy and beat the law of the land.

In most red light districts of Lahore, Karachi, Multan, Hyderabad and other cities, every time there’s a police raid, sex workers and their patrons seek cover by owing allegiance to any sect that allows mutah.

According to a tradition among some sects representing Islam, mutah takes place if both partners agree to enter into a marriage for a short duration, even for a few hours, based on verbal consent. There is no need for any documentation or testimony, apart from a confirmation from the man and the woman. A majority of the clergy in Pakistan is unimpressed by the opportunistic use of the provision.

Mutah is a controversial provision in Islam. According to the majority Sunni sect, mutah has no relevance in the modern world as it was granted during the time of the crusades when “warriors of faith” had to spend months and years away from home. Moreover, sex for money and soliciting are all “haram (prohibited)” under Islamic law.

Mutah, Sunni scholars point out, also envisaged male responsibility in areas like pregnancy, legitimacy of children, maintenance and so on. And more important, it was permitted only with divorcees and widows.

Local Sunni leader Haji Sheikh Ismail said like the triple talaq, mutah is a reprehensible provision that has “no relevance in the modern world”.

But mutah finds acceptance among some sections of Muslims. In fact, it is sometimes considered a “gainful and favourable act”. According to Sayyid Mujtaba Rukni Musawi Lari, who wrote Western Civilisation through Muslim Eyes, mutah was introduced to wipe out prostitution and other forms of illicit relationships from society.

But in Lahore’s notorious Heera Mandi, prostitution could not be stopped even when the government machinery cracked down. Under Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, the sex industry grew stronger due to liberal policing. During Zia-ul-Haq’s regime, mutah provided protection, yet a majority of the sex workers shifted to other areas.

After Zia, they again began operating out of the red light areas and mutah has given them a shield against raids by the police or other law enforcement agencies.

Neelam (name changed on request), who said she has used the mutah provision to “tide over financial difficulties”, provided another angle. “It relieves us of a sense of guilt. At the end of the day, we seek solace that we have not committed a sin as grave as adultery,” she said.

Mutah marriages are not limited to Pakistan. In India’s Hyderabad, such incidents are common when cash-rich Arab sheikhs come searching for young brides. In most cases, the marriages last a night or so and greedy clerics even issue marriage/divorce certificates to provide legal cover. Poverty, ignorance and lust seem to be paving the way for exploitation of women, on both sides of the border.

No offence, but can't say it doesn't exist in pakistan or india.. Also you may visit http://www.mutah.com for more info.

San

Piper1

10-03-05, 11:44

Hi Mate,

Great report - sounds like you were running all over town during your short stay. How did you fit it all in? I hope you studied the GITEX brochures on the way home so you could comment on the displays when you got back to work. ;)

Now, about the Trappist beers - I'd heard they were available at the bar we were supposed to meet in, but when I was there last week, I had to settle for a Stella. Where did you find it?

cheers

Piper

San70

10-03-05, 11:59

are you a young local guy? they often have the problem of girls refusing to go to their villas due to the "game" of picking up a girl or two and bringing them back to the villa where 5 or 6 drunk guys are waiting to gang-bang them. happens a lot, and word gets around. one girl told me how she was basically kidnapped by two guys and taken to a small village an hour away where 6 drunk guys had her. she feared for her life, so you can understand their fear.
pipervery true. once happened with leila long back. she went with a guy to a jumeira villa where four- five other drunk guys were waiting. it was 2 am..she couldn't run and they forcibly switched off her mobile. she cried and tried her best to plead with those guys to spare her, to no avail. totally unvolunatary gangbang. she learnt the lesson and never went out with a new guy to his "villa"

basiq- you can get a new girl to go to your house only through good references, or find some other measure to assure her that she will not be gangraped. also it is easier to get girls from cis houses, where you know the boss, and the boss knows you.

san

Piper1

10-03-05, 14:00

I finally managed to get some time to write a post of last Tuesday’s wild adventure with “Mr. D” and his classy sexy GF, who I’ll call “B”.

It all started when I answered Mr. D’s very brief post, asking for a guy to join them for some MMF fun. I thought it was a joke, so I replied “Pick me! Pick me! I fit the bill”. I almost didn’t want to reply, as he specified the guy must not be too well-endowed. :( (The post had said “not too well-endowed” because his GF wanted to try DP. I thought DP meant Deep Penetration. On the night I found it meant Double Penetration).

Some 20 PMs after the initial post, I started to believe it was a legitimate offer. D had also sent me links to a site where he posts beautifully photographed (face-hidden) erotic nude photos of B - he was once a glamor photographer. B has a stunning body, and I was severely tempted – D knew how to entice a guy into the adventure!

I still thought it may have been a hoax – it’s easy enough to post links to a site. I also considered it might have been a sting – i.e., find out who the porn-posting Piper is and bag him. But I did some extra tracking, and was 99% sure D was legit, so I eventually agreed to meet.

The deal was that I would meet with D at the hotel bar for a drink and a chat, then all going well, we go up to the suite and chat with B. As she is an intelligent woman, I would have to be amusing and witty for her to approve. (The pressure the pressure - I’m way out of practice! :) ) If she then wanted to go ahead, we would have a great time; if not, we wouldn’t.

Swinger’s Club rules: “No” means “no”, and B’s rules: no pain. All fine by me – I’ve been to swinger’s clubs several times, so I already knew the rules, and I’m not into pain. I did mention that I can get pretty wild sometimes when things get going (but never violent), so she might need to tell me to go easy, and I would do so straight away. D told me she was the same. Gulp.

On the night, I turned up at the hotel near World Trade Centre a little early, so I could settle in. Later, Mr. D arrived and we sat and chatted about all sorts of things for nearly 2 hours. A very interesting guy – a very smart and a high-powered businessman, with many interesting tales to tell about his wild adventures in many parts of the world. But hey D, let’s have long chats some other time! ;)

Eventually B phoned from the suite and said she was showered and ready to meet. I sipped down the last of my beer, and followed D up to their suite. As he knocked on the door, my heart was beating faster than normal.

The door opened, and B was standing there, smiling perhaps a little nervously. When I saw her, all I could think was ...

To be continued in Part 2.

11Bravo

10-03-05, 14:15

Hi fellow punters. I've had this FR delivered to 11bravo as, due to unforeseen circumstances, I wouldn't be able to post it myself for a number of months. 11b (I hope it's OK if I call you that) is always saying, "You don't need contacts; go out, look, and find yourself; why not report on new venues yourself rather than just posting questions". So I sent it to him to post. (I was going to send it to Piper to post but I didn't have any photos to include.)
Camel Boy

FR:
I've been a guest lurker on this forum for a LONG time. I could only dream of having an adventure like those reported here. Unfortunately, my time and salary did not allow me to live my dreams; the one too short, the other too small. But I was saving up.

I live and work in Ras Al Khaimah. Things are restricted here, but I was hoping, finally, to be able to venture out, sample, and report on one of the MP's here. Blaze new paths, as it were. But it seems the authorities read my mind, and closed all of the "good" ones down BEFORE I had a chance. I was broken hearted. It was like my dreams had died. I had lost all hope of ever being able to post something on this great forum.

But then, just like they say, when 1 door closes, another opens. I happened to stumble on a whole stable of willing females. When I saw that door open, my heart beat so fast. Talk about a NEW path, RARELY traveled. Now some would say they all look the same, especially when you get down to the business end, but I DISAGREE. I saw her; she looked straight into my eyes, fluttering her long, long, long, eyelashes at me. Some might say it was just the dust in the air, but I knew different. It was love at first sight (for me, anyway; I just couldn't read her emotions).

And she had these long, long legs. So LONGGGGGG. She was actually taller than me; I had to look up at her. Unfortunately, she didn't shave, but I didn't care. No stretch marks, or, at least, no visible ones. I've never experienced oral, and, with her, I was too scared to try; she does have a good set of choppers, all her own. None of that gold uzbeki look. She also spit a lot (but I could overlook that; after all, she doesn't smoke). What was nice was that she was not one to nag about my personal hygiene; she never made any noise about me taking a shower "before". But, I must admit, her hygiene was not something to brag about either; sometimes, I swear, she actually seemed to be drawing flies. But that too I could overlook. You see, she bore me to heaven as I rode her (Piper, you are my inspiration for your riding exploits, but I think I've topped even you). I was hoping to get some photos to post; I think I can show her big, seductive eyes.... without compromising her identity.

Limited positions (actually only one, standing). Great FS, but no oral. To make up for THAT shortcoming, with some light bondage, she DID ANAL. She only grunted mildly when I tried THAT passage. The plus side was, I knew she was disease free; I'm no doctor, but I just knew. Castigate me if you want, but YES, I did go bareback (no embarassing condoms to have to dispose of, especially the used kind - yuk). No problem about multiple shots; she took it all in ... stride, ha, ha. I will admit she was not too responsive herself, but I think it was because she was shy, and we are so different in stature (I mean character). After all, we are of different nationalities/cultures. Besides, her silence was good for me; the walls are pretty thin, and I was concerned about others discovering my hidden pleasure dome.

Now, I was faithful, but for you "rovers" out there, she has so many sisters and half sisters, all living together. And there is a real family resemblance. I'm thinking they wouldn't be jealous if you happened to "stray". Call me a pervert, but I was thinking of using a condom once, then having her "eat" it, juice and all - ha, ha; or maybe even giving it to one of her sisters as a sample of the pleasures I bring. Even a 3-some seemed possible (MFF - I'm not small, but... her other boyfriends make me a bit ashamed). In fact, the "restricted movement" of that close proximity in the same stall (I mean room) would make it even easier to "get it on". But that's not for me (yet).

As to price? Well, I do think I was taking advantage of her; she was rather poor, so just buying her some extra food worked wonders. As soon as I appeared, she'd nuzzle up to me, poking my pockets for any goodies (and yes, I ALWAYS had a banana there, ready just for her).

Unfortunately, she was so seductive, I just couldn't stay away. Rather than restrict our meetings to the night, one day, I just couldn't help myself, slipping inside (ha ha) to "meat" (NO typo) her. But I was caught "in close proximity" I think they say, and he just didn't understand. You know how it is here... they are so "dark ages", closed-minded. I tried to suggest he sample one of her sisters, but he would have none of it (no doubt, he was of "small" stature himself, if you know what I mean).

So I was taken away. As usual here, the "provider" meets an even worse fate than the punter. For that, I really do feel bad. On the "bright" side, in my new accomodations, it looks like there's a good chance for me to be able to broaden my sexual horizons (when that door closes...). I think I heard two others talking about inviting me to a gang-bang - can't wait.
Camel Boy

Sporadic

10-03-05, 14:29

Hi fellow punters. I've had this FR delivered to 11bravo as, due to unforeseen circumstances, I wouldn't be able to post it myself for a number of months.I too have been hit up by CamelBoy to post the photo.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Sporadic

11Bravo

10-03-05, 14:37

It started badly with the Brass Budgie (golden falcon- gulf air) arriving late. Why is this typical these days for a short flight from Bahrain, especially at 15:00hrs. Twice I've tried to fly in on this flight, two strikes out.A known, proven fact: Gulf Air never arrives on time. Last time I took them - they lost my luggage. Now, how can you lose luggage on a direct flight? Point A to Point B. Seems my luggage went to Point C - Iran, then back to Point A (to wait, and wait, and wait....)

My destination was the Garage in the Ramee which was on the same side of the creek as Vendome (Deira). Trust me to get the one taxi driver who didn't know where to go.LOL. You do like to slum, don't you. A venue, once popular, you never hear about any more.

Ended up at Staying Alive in the Imperial Suites. ... The M/F ratio was very skewed to the M. ... Not grade A lookers, but they marketed themselves well and looked as if they had reasonable knockers. Yes, that ratio can really dip past 11.

My suggestion: get there early (when possible), and pull early, before you get crowded out. Also, be aware of where your wallet is - some fast hands there.

Actually it turned out to be the room of a 'friend/madam' for which I was fleeced a further Dhs 100. I wouldn't say "fleeced"... common practice HERE for the punter to pay for the accomodations. You just can't win: 100 for their dive, or 200 for yours...

What I had forgotten is that Chinese bonk serially, not in parallel.For certain, not 100% (or so I've read) , but my experience, yes, sequential processing. At least the other did not wait in the bathroom/wait on the sofa...

ER and Bravo had brought their own (coals to Newcastle ?) so I was free to letch without any problems of 'stealing' anyone from the boys. I KNOW what happened last time you were in town... "ah, Expat... damn, where did he go.... hey, and where is the girl I'd made the deal with..." Must be payback for 1776... or 1812... It was Thursday, so.... Miss Thursday. Still have not tired of the starting pitching rotation...

I tried to be clever and took the stairs up to the mezzanine floor to avoid the walk of shame. No WAY ! Bastards caught us and back downstairs we went to pay up, give passport copy and let us loose. Sorry about that. Obviously, a place to avoid. (They sure know how to make money here... 50 dhs for entry, 75/85 at Cyclone, 25 for a beer, 200 for a guest...)

I repeat: For me, I would not come here solely for P4P. Yes, I'd get a layover (pun intended) if I was on the way to somewhere else. And yes, if I had business here. But, when you consider EVERYTHING, dubai is NOT cheap. Hotel bills, food, drink... everywhere you turn, there's another charge for something.

Next time I'll have to stay on track and try a CIS lass. There's a surfeit of orientals in Bahrain, and I don't want to pay silly money in the Phonecia just for a bit of CIS tail, no matter how nice it is. Next time, Regal... have to check that out myself.

Always a pleasure. Next time, dinner.

11Bravo

10-03-05, 14:43

I too have been hit up by CamelBoy to post the photo.Damn... I think I once saw her at Jockeys... (they really do all look the same). Seems I mistook her for one of the CIS madams.

You mean she fibbed about her age? Hope that's all she was fibbing about.Now it's ME LOL.

Piper1

10-03-05, 15:39

Bravo, Sporadic, et al - Hilarious! You're in the wrong field my friends, and I don't mean camel field.

I haven't had so many laughs in ages.

cheers

Piper

PS - Part 2 to my tale has just been approved by Mr. D, but with a new added twist at the end (literally)

Will post when I get the chance to edit.

San70

10-03-05, 19:37

[i]Hi fellow punters. I've had this FR delivered to 11bravo as, due to unforeseen circumstances, I wouldn't be able to post it myself for a number of months.
Camel Boy11 Bravo,

You are the man. Very nicely written. Great sense of humour. Thanks for the laughs.

San

Malveros

10-04-05, 02:41

I have not stated that Mutah dosen't happen in Pakistan. I have purely mentioned that it happens in the Shiite Community.

What does not hold true is the practice of Mutah being practiced by aged U.A.E nationals with Pakistani women. This is what I was pointing to.

This process occurs generally between old and aged U.A.E nationals and poor Indian women from Hyderabad. Most of these arabs are U.A.E nationals who are also from the poor class. Rich Arabs very seldom practice this.

Although the slums in Dubai are dissappearing fast you might get a chance to see such couples in the poorer areas of Satwa or Ghusais. Now these women are being replaced with Egyptian, Syrian and Moroccon women.

I am not an authority on this matter just stating from what I know after living in this country for the last 30 years.

Cheers,

Mal

ExpatCat

10-04-05, 06:07

Now, about the Trappist beers - I'd heard they were available at the bar we were supposed to meet in, but when I was there last week, I had to settle for a Stella. Where did you find it?

Piper,
After the exhibit closed we went to the Blue Bar in the Novotel. Great Jazz vids and Chimay beer in bottles behind the bar. Nice to taste Trappist again. Not a quaffing beer, but one to be savoured (cos it's damn strong).
Good luck for everyone during Ramadan (started today).
Keep safe,
Expatcat

Ohio29

10-04-05, 08:58

I don't know if you guys have checked out the new talent at F's place or not. If not I suggest you definitely try out this new Moldovian girl who goes by the name Nadia. She is super hot and her service is par excellence. Definitely one of the best that I have had the chance to sample in Dubai.

Ciao,

Ohio29

Piper1

10-04-05, 17:24

As D knocked on the hotel suite door, my heart was beating faster than normal. I wonder why? The door opened, and his gorgeous girl-friend B was standing there, smiling at us, just a little nervously.

All I could think at that moment was “Wow!” I know glamour photos of girls can be deceiving, but I was definitely not disappointed. She is as beautiful in person. She has amazing smouldering dark almond-shaped eyes, and was wearing a very short skirt and a halter top, showing off her petite and athletic tanned body. She has a nice C-cup, long dark hair, and a shy smile. She looked mid-20s.

D, B, and I sat and chatted awhile, about everything but sex. It was just a little awkward. This was not a real “swingers club” situation where people come and go freely. It was more like I was the guest, so I was slightly reserved, waiting for their cues. I purposely excused myself after some time to go to the bathroom, to give them the opportunity to discuss if anything was going to happen (as I hoped it would!)

Sure enough, about 10 minutes later, while sitting on the sofa with D, B gave the signal by slightly lifting her mini-skirt (D told me later that he knew this was her cue. He knows her very well). She was wearing no underwear.

D started playing with her legs and pussy, and I joined in straight away. I started slowly by running my hands up her toned and tanned legs, telling her how beautiful they were, until I also reached the moistness and enjoyed playing with her there a few minutes.

Soon, we took our clothes off and moved to the bed. D and B didn’t waste any time. They were straight into it. I continued to play with her all over, kissing her deeply and sucking her nipples and nibbling and pulling them with my teeth.

A little later, B was on all fours and I was behind her. I knew that part of my role was to have anal with her first, priming her up so the extra-thick-dicked D could also slip in later. So, from behind her, I was licking her pussy, then rimming her, then pushing my tongue in her ass as far as I could, widening my tongue to open her ass more. I think D was playing with her and kissing her at the time. I was too pre-occupied to look. There was a lot of moaning and moving going on. But I did hear him whisper something to her, and I heard her whisper in reply “He’s preparing me, he’s preparing me”.

D moved under B, and she started riding him cowgirl, getting louder and louder with her moans, with her beautiful firm butt in the air facing me. I held onto her butt and hips and pushed Badboy into her wet ass slowly while she continued to ride on top of D. After a minute of this, I started thrusting in deeper, and soon D and I were thrusting away together as B was crying out in pleasure with both of us deep inside her.

Some time later, B was calling out that she was coming, and D was calling out that he could feel her coming. Later D called out that he was coming too. After he finished, he moved out from under her, and I continued to pump inside her ass as she bucked and writhed and moaned. I don’t usually announce when I’m coming, but when in Rome … so I called out that I was coming. She was sensational. What else can I say? Well, I can tell you briefly what happened after we had a break.

We had a well-deserved break, with a drink and a smoke, and chatted a bit more. All three of us were more comfortable now, as we had “broken the ice”. B has a great personality and is easy to talk to, with a wonderful laugh. D and B have a great rapport. They told me they wanted to find a guy in his 40s because younger guys tend to fall in love with her. I can see why.

Now, D is a little older than me, and he gets to make love to his lovely B often, so you would think he would need a longer break than me before starting again. But oh no - I had barely finished my cigarette and sipped my Jack Daniels when he started playing with B again on the bed. He asked me to come and join them. I didn’t think I could yet! Badboy can be a lazyboy if he doesn’t have a rest.

Luckily, the situation helped keep Badboy alert. Soon we were double-fucking B again. Then D got on top of B, leaving me with no option but to put Badboy in her mouth. B tried to give me a blowjob, but D was thrusting away so hard and B was bucking so much that she was having trouble keeping me in her mouth. As I got worked up, I started thrusting deeper harder and faster into her mouth, so she was moaning and gurgling at the same time. I pulled out occasionally, giving her the chance to tell me to stop or to go easy, but she didn’t. I was also watching her face for signs that I should go easy. She looked up at me with a look in her eyes that said I didn’t need to stop.

Minutes later, D finished all over B’s chest, and soon after I pulled out of B’s mouth and finished on her throat and face. Again, finishing on a girl’s face something I don’t usually do, but I was still in Rome and enjoying the local customs.

We chatted awhile more, but I was worried D would want another double round ;), so I started to make moves to leave. I’m kidding, but I did have to leave. It was almost 1:30am, and I had an early start the next day.

D and I have been in regular contact since. He said B enjoyed the night, and they are now planning more fun times. He sent me the link to a new set of glamor nude pics of B that have just been loaded on the other site he posts on. I read the viewer’s comments (over 200 of them). The viewers are all madly in lust with B. D is a lucky man. But I was also lucky last Tuesday night, thanks to D and B.

Cheers

Piper
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PS - D checked my report before I posted it and was happy with it, but apparently I got the order of things mixed up. LOL. Here’s his correction:

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Piper,

Nicely written, but you got chronology a bit mixed up (no wonder!). After this part:

(From Piper’s report): There was a lot of moaning and moving going on. But I did hear him whisper something to her, and I heard her whisper in reply "He's preparing me, he's preparing me".

(D’s correction): What we did was that you entered her ass, while she was giving me a BJ. Then you both rotated sideways, with you still in her ass. Then I asked you to get on your back and for B to get on top, cowgirl style. I think she said something like 'how are we going to do this?' I asked you to put your legs together, spread open hers wide, then positioned my knees between her legs and entered her pussy. That's when she had a really giant orgasm - pity you couldn't see her face.

Next, she was riding me, facing me, and you entered from behind, our second DP.

Btw...you were right - I was good for one more round. B does something to me, drives me crazy ... we have had sessions lasting more than 4-5 hours, with short cigarette breaks in between, and my cock sore for few days afterwards!

Cheers

D
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Piper1

10-04-05, 17:29

I finally managed to get some time to write a post of last Tuesday’s wild adventure with “Mr. D” and his classy sexy GF, who I’ll call “B”.

It all started when I answered Mr. D’s very brief post, asking for a guy to join them for some MMF fun. I thought it was a joke, so I replied “Pick me! Pick me! I fit the bill”. I almost didn’t want to reply, as he specified the guy must not be too well-endowed. :( (The post had said “not too well-endowed” because his GF wanted to try DP. I thought DP meant Deep Penetration. On the night I found it meant Double Penetration).

Some 20 PMs after the initial post, I started to believe it was a legitimate offer. D had also sent me links to a site where he posts beautifully photographed (face-hidden) erotic nude photos of B - he was once a glamour photographer. B has a stunning body, and I was severely tempted – D knew how to entice a guy into the adventure!

I still thought it may have been a hoax – it’s easy enough to post links to a site. I also considered it might have been a sting – i.e., find out who the porn-posting Piper is and bag him. But I did some extra tracking, and was 99% sure D was legit, so I eventually agreed to meet.

The deal was that I would meet with D at the hotel bar for a drink and a chat, then all going well, we go up to the suite and chat with B. As she is an intelligent woman, I would have to be amusing and witty for her to approve. (The pressure the pressure - I’m way out of practice! ;) ) If she then wanted to go ahead, we would have a great time; if not, we wouldn’t.

Swinger’s Club rules: “No” means “no”, and B’s rules: no pain. All fine by me – I’ve been to swinger’s clubs several times, so I already knew the rules, and I’m not into pain. I did mention that I can get pretty wild sometimes when things get going (but never violent), so she might need to tell me to go easy, and I would do so straight away. D told me she was the same. Gulp.

On the night, I turned up at the hotel near World Trade Centre a little early, so I could settle in. Later, Mr. D arrived and we sat and chatted about all sorts of things for nearly 2 hours. A very interesting guy – a very smart and a high-powered businessman, with many interesting tales to tell about his wild adventures in many parts of the world. But hey D, let’s have long chats some other time! ;)

Eventually B phoned from the suite and said she was showered and ready to meet. I sipped down the last of my beer, and followed D up to their suite. As he knocked on the door, my heart was beating faster than normal.

The door opened, and B was standing there, smiling perhaps a little nervously. When I saw her, all I could think was ...

Continued in Part 2.

Piper1

10-05-05, 15:37

Piper,
After the exhibit closed we went to the Blue Bar in the Novotel. Great Jazz vids and Chimay beer in bottles behind the bar. Nice to taste Trappist again. Not a quaffing beer, but one to be savoured (cos it's damn strong).
Expatcat

ExpatCat: Chimay - YUM! I was in Blue Bar (the night before you were). I asked which Belgian beers they had, but all I got was a Stella Artois! I might have to head there again, shucks. :)

Things are looking quiet for Ramadam except the $#@%ing traffic. And I'm suddenly getting lots of PMs for contacts. But remember guys - places like York are still open, and in my opinion, great to visit, as there's no loud music, and you can actualy have a conversation. A WHAT?

Meanwhile, I'm keeping myself busy with too much work, and emailing back and forth with a number of gals interested in the offer of staying with me in Amsterdam and Paris.

Funnily enough, the main contender lives in Paris. She's a French-Algerian lass who wants to come to Dubai. I'm guessing she wants visa assistance and airfare in return for her, ahem, companionship.

Others include an Indian college student in Canada who also wants to come to Dubai "one day". I also had a flurry of emails/photos from Kenya over a couple of days (must be an organised group) - some photos nice, some scary, and some very direct indeed.

I also have the option of "dating" a few women living in Amsterdam. So far, one from Ecuador, one from Mexico and one from Kenya. All professionals (no, no, no. I mean like lawyers and doctors) in their late twenties to early thirties. Just right.

In fact, I'm starting to prefer the idea of just "dating" a few interesting women while I'm there - less hassle than having someone with me all the time, and less commitment. If nothing comes of the dates, no problems.

Ah decisions decisions.

cheers, and enjoy the quiet time.

Piper

JustSumFun

10-05-05, 18:38

Interesting. I found this other post on another site which reads as follows:

Had a little outing this afternoon on the excuse that a friend was in town just for 3 days and was leaving this evening.When I came out of the bedroom, J had arrived. Seeing her I wondered who I would have picked if J was there when I arrived. N or J. Maybe a toss of coin would have been required.

F's stable is getting some lovely ones. Hope these two stick around.

Justfun

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cut'n paste?You caught me mate. Guilty as charged. I confess.

I have been a fan of Justfun ever since he started posting on that other forum. So I thought why not make an id which is similar to his. And "Justsumfun" was born.

Piper, Sporadic, 11bravo, San70, Mecrazy are all in on my secret and I have their blessings. Hope you will bestow your blessings on me too.

Lets see what Mr. Original Justfun has to say about this.

Justfun

JustFun10

10-05-05, 18:46

you caught me mate. guilty as charged. i confess.

i have been a fan of justfun ever since he started posting on that other forum. so i thought why not make an id which is similar to his. and "justsumfun" was born.

piper, sporadic, 11bravo, san70, mecrazy are all in on my secret and i have their blessings. hope you will bestow your blessings on me too.

lets see what mr. original justfun has to say about this.

justfunme don kno eeengleeesh. y yo speech about me?

justfun

Sporadic

10-05-05, 18:54

Justsumfun
Piper, Sporadic, 11bravo, San70, Mecrazy are all in on my secret and I have their blessings.
Please do not add my name to the list of compliant name-theft criminals.

I Know JustFun personally, and I am shocked that you have appropriated his name.

I mean, there is no possibility that you could be one and the same!

I suggest a severe punishment; a light slap upon each wrist. Shame on you!

Now I will have to hunt down those criminals "Piper2, 12Bravo, San71, Me_notCrazy and Semi-Sporadic."

Hopefully, that loud popping sound you just heard round-the world will be a cranium exiting a rectum. ;)

Cheers,

Camelboy_too

JustFun10

10-06-05, 16:49

Justsumfun
Please do not add my name to the list of compliant name-theft criminals.

I Know JustFun personally, and I am shocked that you have appropriated his name.

I mean, there is no possibility that you could be one and the same!

I suggest a severe punishment; a light slap upon each wrist. Shame on you!

Now I will have to hunt down those criminals "Piper2, 12Bravo, San71, Me_notCrazy and Semi-Sporadic."

Hopefully, that loud popping sound you just heard round-the world will be a cranium exiting a rectum. ;)

Cheers,

Camelboy_tooYou made my day mate. LOL!!!! :)

Sporadic

10-08-05, 13:24

Is anybody doing anything these days?

Piper1

10-09-05, 09:15

Is anybody doing anything these days?

Friday night was a killer (almost). I was locked in and punched and kicked by a crazy and very drunk WG who didn't like the fact I didn't want her. Ouch.

Lucky a mate was in the other room with a girl and they came to my rescue. Will tell the sorry tale when I get time tonight.

Still ouch,

Piper

Piper1

10-09-05, 13:05

Here's an account of Friday night's rumble with a crazy Kyrgy WG.

After JS and my workmate left York, another mate and I headed over to Regal, as he loves Kyrgy girls. It was getting late, so I didn't think I could take part, but I got talking to a good-looking Kyrgy lass, probably late 20s, and friendly in a quiet shy sort of way. I had talked her into taking us back to her place for a threesome for 500, then I would leave my mate there and head home.

Soon, a young friend of the WG came and joined us, but she was rolling drunk and falling all over the place. She found out what was happening and wanted to join in. I told girl Number 1 that I didn't want her friend to come, as she was very drunk. She told me she was fine, and would have to come, as they lived together (turned out to be true).

When we got back to their apartment, I noticed the drunk girl lock the door and hide the key, thinking eagle-eye Piper didn't notice. Hmmm. Warning bells were ringing.

My mate went straight to the room with the other girl for some fun, and stupid me sat and had a drink with Crazy Girl. She took this as meaning I was her customer. She had changed into a sexy little nightie and was all over me. Then she started talking about going to the room when the others were finished. I actually considered it a moment, but came to my senses and told her I'd better go as it was so late.

I asked her to unlock the door, and she turned aggro, saying I had to stay. I reminded her I had made it clear I didn't want to be with her. I repeated that I needed to leave, so she should unlock the door. She refused, so I went over to get the key myself. When she saw what I was doing, she ran over and tried to push me away, and gave me a good whack to the nose. I tried to hold her off and grab the key, and she turned into a female Kyrgy Bruce Lee, literally jumping in the air, screaming and kicking me in the chest a few times (still hurts!)

By now, my mate and the other girl came in to the lounge room to see what the commotion was about, and to settle Crazy Kyrgy down. I had a few words for the crazy girl, told my mate I was out of there, unlocked the door, and left. I called him the next day, and he said he was worried because of all the noise, but soon got back to business. He had a bit of a laugh about it, but my ribs still hurt, and I had a bit of explaining to do when I got home looking a little unsettled.

I should have followed my instincts instead of my gonads!

Piper

Sporadic

10-09-05, 14:52

Amantelondres

10-09-05, 16:01

Will be in Dubai for a few days including next weekend. Have had some good times at Premier disco ay Hyatt Regency in previous stays. Have just realised it's Ramaddan. How does this affect our hobby? I hear there's "soft" music with no DJ's during this period. Do girls still go to discos regardless? Also any recent experience of this hotel?

Billaooo

10-09-05, 19:13

I actually enjoy ramadan, the lights are up so you can get a good look at what your getting and evryone seems much more relaxed. The numbers are down but there is always plenty to go round.

Piper1

10-09-05, 20:34

Piper,

Yet another reason I prefer "my turf" for the hobby, even if that is a hotel room. Nightmare scenario, particularly at this time of year.

Glad you got out of it with only bruises!

Cheers,

Sporadic

I agree - I miss Piper's boudoir :(

But at least I know where to go for a bit of S & M. LOL

I didn't tell the whole story in the last post, as I've never been bopped by a girl before, and was still trying to make sense of it all. I hate violence and have to admit it shook me up a bit. I have talked my way out of many tricky situations before, but this happened suddenly, and she was very drunk. I guess we just didn't have the rapport I've come to know and love from the WGs. ;)

When I got home very late, my little wildcat was still awake, and asked where my socks were (oops - I'd made a hasty getaway). She told me she "knew" I had been out screwing. I truthfully denied it. She said not to worry about it, as all men do it. She was more concerned that I had been "in a fight and got hurt" (a little blood on my shirt from my nose, and a small mark on my nose). I told her not to worry as I'm an expert in macrame.

Women - I just don't understand them sometimes

cheers

Piper

ExpatCat

10-10-05, 04:57

I told her not to worry as I'm an expert in macrame.

Good for you. Personally, I'm a black belt in Sudoku . . . :)

Expatcat

Road Lover

10-13-05, 16:35

I am transiting through dubai and have 6 hours to blow! How I wish that comes true? Anybody knows if there is any action in the airport of Dubai? Or at the transit airport hotel itself? Just want to get lucky! Heheheh.

Nice Guy 99

10-14-05, 05:45

Is anybody doing anything these days?

Yes .... ten characters

BlakTea

10-14-05, 19:39

Hi Gents,

As it is now confirmed that I will be moving to Dubai in a few weeks , I'm afriad I have a few more newbie question that I'd like to ask the experienced expats:-

1) Just how dangerous is driving in Dubai?

2) As part of my package, I've been told I will have a choice of locations to choose from. Having never been to Dubai I would like to make the right choice, I've travelled quite alot and generally like staying in busy parts of town, I like the 'hustle and bustle' of real working towns/cities, close to good amenities, I love watching people/pretty girls go by (people watching etc), I guess I'm trying to say I dont want to be stuck in suburbia, so where in your opinion is the best place for a new expat (who likes P4P) to live? Bur Dubai? Deira? As Jameira is a beech area I'm guess I wont find the above there?

3) WILL I BE ABLE TO GET THIS GREAT SITE (or any other adult site) IN DUBAI? I understand there are ways to bypass the local ISP? what are the risks involved? can you be traced?

4) Anybody know the female to male ratio in Dubai?

5) I'll be honest with you guys,I'm planning on doing the P4P scene for the first 6 or 7 months only, call me crazy but after that I'll probably start looking for a 'proper' girlfriend. My question is, how often do you guys get the chance to meet non pro's who are looking for dare I say it ...'a real boyfriend'?

Cheers

Piper1

10-15-05, 08:10

hi gents,

1) just how dangerous is driving in dubai?very. avoid sheik zayed road. it's a speedway one minute, a complete jam the next. traffic is getting worse by the day, literally. try to get accommodation close to work, or at least on the same side of the creek.

2) ... i like the 'hustle and bustle' of real working towns/cities, ... so where in your opinion is the best place for a new expat (who likes p4p) to live? bur dubai? deira? as jameira is a beech area i'm guess i wont find the above there?deira is very hustle and bustle. bur dubai is also, but more "western" and probably less of a culture shock for a new expat. jumeira is fine - not a lot of action, but there is some. i recommend bur dubai.

3) will i be able to get this great site (or any other adult site) in dubai? i understand there are ways to bypass the local isp? what are the risks involved? can you be traced?download jap.exe or similar before you arrive (check google)

4) anybody know the female to male ratio in dubai?statistically, a very high male ratio, as there are many thousands of male labourers from india/pakistan etc basically working as slave labor. as you will not be moving in these circles, the practical ratio comes down nearer to normal.

5) i'll be honest with you guys,i'm planning on doing the p4p scene for the first 6 or 7 months only, call me crazy but after that i'll probably start looking for a 'proper' girlfriend. my question is, how often do you guys get the chance to meet non pro's who are looking for dare i say it ...'a real boyfriend'?yes, there are many nonp4p girls who want a relationship - but mainly long-term and marriage. also, many cabin crew gals who are away from home, and want some real company while based in dubai. try places like "peanut butter jam" at wafi city on friday nights - a laid-back jazzy place with lots of cabin crew, where i met my full-time wildcat. also jimmy dix nightclub (jimmy dix also good for one-night pick-ups).

don't worry - lots of single girls here. and if you can't find a "proper" girlfriend, there are many "improper" ones.

cheers,

piper

11Bravo

10-15-05, 14:43

basically, i concur with piper.

1) just how dangerous is driving in dubai?
very!!! just read in today's gulf news there is an accident every 3 minutes. obviously, not all fatal, but certainly enough. and if you kill somebody, you will pay blood money; good news is, if it's not a "member of the book" (muslim, christian, jewish), the money is less.

on the highways, think german autobahn --- without the skill set. in town... well, most of the time, the speed is less.

back home, you're probably a 3rd/4th generation driver. here, there are a lot of 1st generation drivers. just the other day, saw a woman in an suv, in an automatic car wash - you know, where the chain and bars drag the car through... her foot on the brake the whole time (was right behind her, amazed); the attendent screaming at her to take her foot off the brake and not steer.

no joke: make sure you have good medical insurance coverage (i.e., from your company). not saying you'll need it, but just like all other things here, medical services are not cheap (you do want to be going to the private hospital, not govt clinic).

2) as part of my package, i've been told i will have a choice of locations to choose from.more so than elsewhere, i'd heavily consider where i work when chosing a place to live. traffic gets worse, year after year. you definitely want to live, if possible, on the same side of the creek that you work (or be prepared for an hour's comute for 10 miles). there are minimal alternative roads to get from point a to point b. i can drive to abu dhabi (150 kms) quicker than i can cross the creek (30 kms) during rush hour.

believe it was this week's "time out" magazine who reported favorite place was jumeriah. umm sequim, al safa also nice, just not on beach.

i too like the busy parts of town, just not here, as i also like: quiet at night, no fighting for parking, my privacy. i've known some people who did "enjoy" staying in the golden sands area, bur dubai. but remember, people talk, and if you like p4p, you don't necessarily want the doorman, security, etc, thus, your neighbors, knowing how you entertain. guess if i was looking for "city", i might lean towards sheik zayed road - at least it's easy distance to city center.

plus, "city centers", given the climate, tend to be big malls. relatively few just wandering the streets.

suburbia does have the advantage of less traffic on the small access streets as you try to reach your actual home. downtown... making those last few blocks can be time consuming (and, given the limited parking, it's not like you can just pull over and walk).

i'd suggest you get your company to agree to give you time to look around; it's not all that easy to find a decent place. rent's are high - a nice condo will run 30k/year (that is to rent, not purchase).

3) will i be able to get this great site (or any other adult site) in dubai? i understand there are ways to bypass the local isp? what are the risks involved? can you be traced?there are ways. one way is that, in certain locations (greens? meadows?) have their own isp, but they are a bit out of town. also hear internet city does not use local isp. there are other ways.

unless you do something really stupid, no one will trace you. who do you think you are, anyway?

4) anybody know the female to male ratio in dubai?believe dubai made the guiness book of records for worst ratio. but that's because it's heavily weighted with all the male construction workers. and they will not be competing with you for ladies (there are reasons why bars have selectively enforced entrance fees).

5)my question is, how often do you guys get the chance to meet non pro's who are looking for dare i
say it ...'a real boyfriend'?there are any number of saudi's looking for a "real boyfriend"; just venture into any mall. ;)

in reality, there are a number of ladies around. but, have some consideration. always remember: sex outside marriage is illegal.

if she's a tcn, she goes to jail, then deported (read true life-altering occurrence). you... well, perhaps less directly life-altering, but might be "interesting" to be explaining to your boss back home why you have to take time off of work. so, for the tcn's, it's not like "back home" where sex is no big thing. here, they are risking something. for western women, yes, they are around. but they do attract a lot of unwanted attention, so are perhaps more hesitant.
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one last thing: your national heritage/ethnic background will have an effect on the way you are "seen" here. just the way it is; be able to deal with it.

Piper1

10-15-05, 15:26

I've known some people who did "enjoy" staying in the Golden Sands area, Bur Dubai. But remember, people talk, and if you like P4P, you don't necessarily want the doorman, security, etc, thus, your neighbors, knowing how you entertain.

True, privacy is an issue. I used to live near Golden Sands, but closer to York/Regal, and would often walk home from these fine establishments with a lovely young lady in hand. I chose the apartment block from many others, because I could bypass security by walking into the basement carpark to the elevator. Occasionally, security would spring me. The occasional bottle of scotch for them ensured a warm welcome for me and "my lady" every time. It was a bit annoying when the night-time carwash guys in the basement would cheer at us, though.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

10-15-05, 20:07

True, privacy is an issue. Had a friend that did the same. Normally worked. But still... It's also your neighbors. Those apartments do have PUBLIC hallways... That morning departure can also be problematic... only time I seem to see my complex's caretaker is when she is leaving in the AM.

And you certainly don't want to have any "scenes" at your place (ducked a bullet or two there myself).

BlakTea

10-16-05, 02:32

Bravo/Piper

Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated. Just the info I needed and expected from senior members such as yourselves.

I must say you have me really worried about driving in Dubai now! are you 'shitting' me about the blood money payment?!!

In regards to location, your advice in regards to working and living on the same side of the creek is well noted. You also make good points in regards to privacy, my only comment is that no matter where you live, if you intend to bring your 'lady friend' home your privacy is almost always compromised (even in quiet suburbia).

City Malls good place to people watch and pick up single women in Dubai?

In regards to local ISP's "Unless you do something REALLY STUPID, no one will trace you. Who do you think you are, anyway?" :) define really stupid?
Piper thanks for the Jap.exe link, I'll download this before I leave.

In regards to female/male ratio,thanks for reasuring me, however the guinness book of records statistic is still frightening?

In regards to girlfriends, again Piper thanks for the specifics of where I might find what I'm looking for and Bravo thanks for the caution of 'sex before marriage' although I do wonder if this has ever been enforced between a 'serious' unmarried expat couple?

Guys, thanks again for helping out a newbie and for giving a balanced overview to all of my questions, although I think I may have overlooked the most important question off all...have you enjoyed and continue to enjoy your time in Dubai?

Cheers

Piper1

10-16-05, 11:25

Bravo/Piper
Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated....Blacktea - you're welcome.

... are you 'shitting' me about the blood money payment?!! Basically the same as paying damages, just a different label. (Oh, and jail if you cannot pay). Insurance can cover it for an extra $US80 per year - I just did it last week.

That reminds me, the insurance clerk was the sexiest friendliest gal I've seen in Dubai. She looks Venezualan, tall, slim, busty, with come-to-bed eyes. In fact, they were more "I'm in bed riding you and loving it" eyes. When she smiled and looked into my eyes and asked if there was anything else she could help me with, I went into a dangerous daydream of her taking advantage of me in many ways in the boudoir. If anyone needs insurance, let me know and I'll save you time by going to see her on your behalf. Geez I'm a nice guy.

City Malls good place to people watch and pick up single women in Dubai? Good for watching, and pick-ups happen. City Centre Mall is notorious - including P4P. I was lucky a few weeks back at a smaller beach side mall. But be discrete - you're also being watched by Big Brother and many security and plain-clothes police. You won't know about them unless you do something silly like harrass a girl, or move your hand around in your front pockets too much (as one guy, currently in jail, did. His last words in public were "The devil made me do it, Your Honour!!")

In regards to girlfriends, again Piper thanks for the specifics of where I might find what I'm looking for ...Just a couple of off-the-cuff examples. There are many more places. Salsa dancing (and classes) is a great way to meet some gorgeous single nonP4P girls - and many don't go for the dancing. ;) Also check out timeoutdubai.com - even better to get a hard copy - many many club listings at the back.

and Bravo thanks for the caution of 'sex before marriage' although I do wonder if this has ever been enforced between a 'serious' unmarried expat couple?What?! you mean there's sex *after* marriage??!! (Kidding, but it's been long dry week - tomorrow has to be a mischief day if the panadol still don't work tonight). ;)

I know a number of expat couples who don't flaunt the fact they are not married, and no problems. Again, just be more discrete than in the west.

...have you enjoyed and continue to enjoy your time in Dubai? Yes and yes. A great party place for a single guy with a bit of spare cash (or a married guy living the single lifestyle). I just wish the little Wildcat would travel a little more frequently nowadays!! This kid in a candy shop wants more candy, but mama keeps closing the lids.

cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-16-05, 12:53

A cross-post from the Amsterdam thread - because I'm still cranky I didn't choose to travel to Thailand or Argentina, etc., and to remind us of how lucky we are in Dubai.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiz Kid
Hi Guys,
Gentlemen this site seems worringly slow these days, has the quality detieorated so bad or have the prices rocked so much ...

Whiz Kid,

I agree! I'll be there for five days from the end of this month, and am worried! Doing my research here and another couple of sites tells me that for 100Euro I can have 30 minutes with a girl who has probably had many customers already that day, and if I am lucky or if I tip, will allow me to see her breasts or, unbelievably, maybe even touch them!

I have been spoilt, living in Dubai, where for 100 Euro I can take a beautiful girl all-night (and sometimes two girls), and party wild all night and into the next afternoon with them - all sorts of sex (as many times as I can handle), photos, drinks, dancing away, the works.

Reading guys' reports of how they had a "girlfriend experience" with a hooker in a 15 or 30 minute booking makes me want to laugh or cry - I'm not sure which.

If I need a quicky while in Amst, I'll take it, but if anyone has some tips on clubs to pick up non-hookers (preferably late-20s to early-30s), that would be much appreciated.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

10-16-05, 15:07

are you 'shitting' me about the blood money payment?!!Check out:
http://www.datadubai.com/articles/bloodmoney1.htm

From the above:
Some of the cases involving blood money - a fixed sum of Dh 150,000 [about $41k USD] per death- have yet to be settled.

"Usually, insurance companies pay for this, but they refuse to do so when the person charged is found driving without a driver's licence, driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or if the insurance policy was not renewed on time," he explained.

Amiri added that those charged with killing people in traffic accidents were jailed until the blood money was paid, even if they had completed their prison term.

So no, this is NO joke. Chances are, you will NOT experience this. But you must be aware of the consequences of your actions; it's not like "back home".

You also make good points in regards to privacy, my only comment is that no matter where you live, if you intend to bring your 'lady friend' home your privacy is almost always compromised (even in quiet suburbia).True enough; depends on who your neighbors are: nosey or mind their own business. Depending on the accomodation, some have their own private entrances; thus, no "hallway" time.

define really stupid? Check the Morocco thread.

In regards to female/male ratio,thanks for reasuring me, however the guinness book of records statistic is still frightening?Just wait until you "run the gauntlet" at TGIT afternoon, around 3:45. You WILL believe.

... and Bravo thanks for the caution of 'sex before marriage' although I do wonder if this has ever been enforced between a 'serious' unmarried expat couple?Here, it's binary: either you are married (with proof) or you're not. "Serious" has no bearing on the fact.

From today's Gulf News, 16 Oct 2005, page 3:
Barber jailed for having illicit affair with housemaid

Woman claims similar relations with sponsor

A Dubai court sentenced a barber to one year in prison for having an illicit love affair with a housemaid who also alleged that she was sleeping with her sponsor.

The 23-year-old barber, identified as D.O., and the 21-year-old housemaid, both from the Philippines, will be deported. The Dubai public prosecution charged the barber with trespassing into a private property and having an illegitimate love affair with the housemaid.

The Dubai police heard that the Canadian sponsor, who works as an engineer, returned to his villa in Al Safa Area and saw the barber, whom he had not seen before, sitting with the 21-year-old woman.

The engineer became angry and started shouting at the two accused. Then he quarrelled with the barber before the police came and arrested the two Filipinos.

In his statement to the police, the 23-year-old denied having an illicit affair. Meanwhile, the Filipina confessed that she was having a love affair with the barber. She alleged that she was having a similar affair with her sponsor.

The Canadian sponsor denied her claims but his wife said she had suspected that something was going on between her housemaid and her husband. The Dubai Court of First Instance did not consider the Filipina's claims of an affair with her sponsor because she could not prove this.

The 2 TCN's were the ones that were punished (just in case anyone thought I was blowing smoke about who takes the fall). However, if she had proof against the westerner... He would not have gone to jail, but explaining to the home office why you HAVE to leave the country...

have you enjoyed and continue to enjoy your time in Dubai? EVERYONE comes to dxb for their OWN reasons. What I will say is, if you work in the Middle East, it's a nice place to be.

Matteo 77

10-17-05, 23:14

i've spent last 3 hrs reading the UAE forums,
i'll pay my first visit to UAE in mid nov, a friend of mine told me he'll be there for an Italian Wine Week or something....

i'm a regular FKK customer (i'll be @fkkw the 1st nov), but i've been also in prague, riga, amsterdam.... cause my gender is the caucasian girl :-P,
this is to clarify that i'm not new to the hobby, but i still have a lot to learn especially outside EU ...

i'll appreciate any help, and of course if bravo (your faq is a Bible !!!) or any other collegue will be in dubai in mid nov, i'll be happy to have a beer with you guys....

11Bravo

10-18-05, 13:18

i've spent last 3 hrs reading the UAE forums...

.... cause my gender is the caucasian girl ...

bravo (your faq is a Bible !!!) ...1. FAQ had a lot of contributors; I just consolidated (selfish interests, I really get tired of the SAME questions, over and over...)

2. Nice to see someone researching BEFORE they post questions or arrive here. There is quite a bit of useful information/experiences within the forum; you just have to read.

3. If you like caucasians, I'd say: Cyclone (yes, it is expensive, but it IS a must see). And Rockafellas, Regal Plaza Hotel, seems to be a good gathering point for CIS.

Amantelondres

10-18-05, 21:26

No live DJ in Premier disco as it's Ramadan, but there was music, the lights were low, and the usual complement of chinese, russian and africans were there but not in great numbers. Didn't stop me meeting and servicing a gorgeous chinese called Ayi. Fantastic enthusiastic service...she could f*** for China, no discussion about money at any time, just accepted what i stuffed down her bra at the finish.
See also under Dubai Hotels.

11Bravo

10-19-05, 13:02

ramadan scounting report, tuesday night
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street: 8:30
spied 1 or 2 loiterers across from the ramada on my way to jockey's, al-ain side. actually surprised, given ramadan, to see any, especially at that hour (sidewalks full of civilians).

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jockey's: 8:30-9:40
arrived jockey's at 8:30 to find barcrawler already there. place not empty, certainly not crowded, fairly evenly mixed. cis and chinese in attendence; couple africans arriving later.

saw 3 -stani's i would have no problem pulling. pointing 1 out to bc, found out it was smiler, a bc acquaintance. very nice; she quickly got a phone call and was gone. another, exchanging smiles, considered going over and asking for her number, but, the gravitational pull of my stool greater than her enticements. would have made a nice change, though, and i probably would have if i didn't have the weekend pitching staff on-going.

some causasian cis around. nothing to float my boat, but, as not my thing, she has to be head-turning attractive to attract my attention. you may think otherwise.

also 3 chinese, one attractive in an "unusual" sort of way, just by her distinctiveness. had seen her outside, on her mobile, as i was walking in - had exchanged a nice smile with her. inside, we just kept smiling at each other across the bar. jockey's being very low key anyway, and especially now, it remainded at that level.

was waiting to see if another forum member, groover, would show. as he hadn't, bc and i ready to depart for other pastures. on leaving, did have to get miss distinct's number. only after she'd entered it into my phone, and i had tried to call her so she could log my number, did i realize that my pos (piece of sh*t) company mobile didn't have the power to grab a signal inside any building whose walls were not made out of paper. i had to go outside to call her inside. if you tried to call, sorry groover. we were there.

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bc and i debated: imperial or york. we decided on york.

york: 9:45-11:15
again, bar not crowded, not empty. number of chinese, africans. few cis circulating.

quickly waylaid by an interesting chinese. she was putting on the marketing in a non-intrusive way. another time, i would have been interested, but tonight, only scouting. she eventually realized her ministrations were useless and departed.

a york a-lister arrived; hadn't seen her in awhile. she came over to say hello, just arrived from china. that figured, judging by previous history: on arrival back to dxb, she'd hit york for a week or 2, collecting enough steady clients that she could use for outcalls, thus reducing "bar time". ok face. can say, by personal experience, her rack is legit. she asked me to call her; i said i would; we both knew it wouldn't happen; each of us having other interests.

another familiar face floated by; another girl just back from china (er - think this might be the girl you were asking about). previously, she'd had a legit day job, so unless pulled on a thursday, she did have to depart early. exchanged greetings, then bc and i moved on. later on in the evening, she returned to whisper a few endearments/inducements into my ear. they worked; i asked for her new phone number.

several other familiar faces said hi. place not crowded; room to move. mentioned to bc that i actually thought jockey's had been better. while many more ladies at york, the distinctiveness of a couple at jockey's made them stand out. here, at york, nothing jumping out. some attractive africans, if that's your thing (not mine. i really don't like being grabbed). any number of "bland" job seekers stopping by to seek temporary employment.

unfortunately, bc's miss race queen was mia; bc mentioning she's one of those who gets pulled early. her friend was there, cute, and on a slow night... also missing was miss perm and her sister. certainly would like to see her again, if only to a)evaluate the new look, and b)evaluate the family resemblance.

another very nice chinese stopped by, dressed in black slacks, white blouse, pull over black sweater - real university student preppy look. once again, the packaging helping her stand out from the masses. tempted to get her number, but then, also knew i wouldn't use it, so didn't.

two chinese that did stand out "tagged-team" bc and myself. the shorter showing a nice glimplse of cleavage in a crop top with a bit cuter face. not a lot there, but certainly more than a typical a-size rack, very enticingly packaged. her friend, bit plainer face, had the much nicer rack. looked a legit b-cup, though, with bra engineering, can be mislead. doing some nice marketing. bc and myself, with similiar work start times, passed. they moved on. later on, they tried again, but, again, we declined. mentioned to bc that, as i could not pick one over the other, i'd have to take them both. we both concurred that this rarely worked; the promise more gorgeous than it's realization.

bc had picked up a "stalker"; persistent, but not overtly so. while he was engaged with her for the "nth" time, i spotted the "racked pair - or should i say quaduple", standing across the aisle. exchanged smiles, but they were staying put, having been rejected previously. the shorter one doing some nice, subtle marketing: very nice "tongue licking lips", followed by inserting her index finger into her mouth, moving it in and out. i thought the eyes of a south-asian punter standing between us were going to bug out; talk about gawking.

her advertisements did work; stepped over to grab both numbers (still couldn't decide which) for future use. nothing to upset the current all-star weekend pitching rotation, but... with reduced ramadan hours... and eid is coming up. both kept even with the other as both demonstrating playful attitudes. both made the definite to-do list; just something about them that would be worth the price to see them naked.

as a last stop, had spotted another york a-lister. normally, i don't show up on her radar; tonight, no exception, even with a reduced clientele. one evening, couple months back, had really tried to strike a deal with her. but she declined, firmly turning down my lt 500 at-my-place night, preferring a st at-her-place 600 deal. all done in good fun; she truthfully mentioned, "too much work for too little money." stopped by to give her a bad (tease) time, now joking with her. she did, nicely, play along. has the surface playful attitude, but, perhaps sour grapes on my part, underneath, seems very business. would easily take either of the "playful" pair over her, anyday.

on departing, bc and i both agreeing that even during ramadan, too many to sample. in 3 hours, i had 4 new numbers; 2 others i had found interesting, didn't even bother. so, in 3 hours, i could have easily filled a week's dance card. attitude is all important. once you find her attractive, in whatever way, her attitude really does separate her from others. and that is one nice thing about ramadan: with no music in the bars, easy to carry on a conversation, thus judging attitude. for me, i'll take the good/playful attitude of the cute girl over the a-list business pro anytime.

11Bravo

10-19-05, 13:04

Ramadan

Some general guidelines; bars will differ, but in most cases:

The Good Bars not crowded; reduced number of punters punting.
Don't get hit with a wave of smoke on entering a bar.
Easy to move around; clear lines-of-sight.
Lights are kept up; you can easily see what she really looks like.
No live bands. Often, no music, or at most, some background. Easy to carry on a conversation to assess her attitude. And to exchange comments with your fellow punters.
As TGIT is closed in the afternoons, number of girls with nothing to do. Amenable to an afternoon with you (as long as you have her number).
Bars close 2am, rather than 3. Slightly more of a chance she spends longer with you rather than rushing back for a double header.
Due to reduced number of punters, CHANCES at some lower prices. A lot of girls just want to make it through the month.

The Bad
Bars not crowded; reduced number of WG's. Those that can afford the vacation back home, do so (note, these are most likely to be the a-listers). Number of others, remaining in country, keep a low profile, hesitant to venture out. However, still plenty around to pick from. For me, it's ALWAYS which one to select, NEVER there are none to select.
Seaview band is NOT playing. As they ARE the draw there, P4P being a sideline, could imagine business really drops during the month.
TGIT is closed in the afternoons. No chance for a pleasant drink and perhaps an assignation from someone you spot there.
Bars close 2am, rather than 3. If you're on a late night arrival, get a good night's sleep.
More civilians out-and-about, later; longer walks of shame.
Be even MORE discreet. This IS a hightened time for religion; there is less tolerance of others' business.
VERY limited street action. The smart ones stay inside. But it is around. Even at the supemarket. How long does it REALLY take her to read that package label, standing next to you?

The Ugly
DO NOT drive around Iftar (dusk, when fast is broken). Any number of crazies trying to get home for the meal, despite the fact that every gas station, mosque, mall, street corner, has tents with free food. The accident rate sky-rockets at this time.

Bottom line:
Would I schedule a trip here during Ramadan: NO
Would I cancel a scheduled trip here during Ramadan: NO

Business continues during Ramadan; it's just the other headaches (public fasting) that can get in the way of things.

Piper1

10-20-05, 14:21

No guys, not the sort of palm action you've been having as you look through the ISG photos. ;)

I mean Palm Hotel action (next to Hard Rock/Amnesia). I was there last night with my now constant bodyguard, Ms. Wildcat. She was complaining about being tired, and I told her she didn't need to come with me every time I go out for a game of pool. She replied that she wanted to keep me company. I told her not to worry, and with a wink, I said I can always find company, as I looked around the room at the offerings. She laughed and said that's why she was keeping me company.

Palm Hotel is essentially a non-P4P place, but with Amnesia closed or quiet during Ramadan, there was a nice selection last night. There were two very nice young blondes to start with (looked like natural blondes - with Turkish features). Very do-able.

Just my luck, Ms. Turkmenistan who I took from Amnesia a couple of months ago (I've post a few new pics of her) came in with another Turkmeni gal, and sat most of the night at a table across the room from me, but facing me. At first I didn't recognise her, as her hair was down this time. Last time it was bunched up. This time she was wearing a very elegant white dress, looking like she was going to a wedding.

I was relatively sure she wouldn't recognise me, as I've conveniently put on a few pounds since then (not enough "exersize"), I'm tanned now, plus my shaggy long mop hair had just been chopped into short-and spikey. Even a mate didn't recognise me at first when I saw him there last night.

Wildcat went to the bathroom, so I took the opportunity to look over at Ms. Turkmenistan. She looked back and smiled, but I don't think it was a smile of recognition, and I quickly averted eye contact. Luckily a couple of guys had joined them and were keeping them busy.

After a few pints I started considering whether to suggest to Wildcat that a threesome would be nice. But no, I will wait until Saturday.

cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-20-05, 16:27

A few days ago I tried calling a few favorites to arrange an afternoon romp at my office, as per Tubby's inspiration. Sadly, two have left never to return, according to the girls who answered the phones. One was the Skinny Indianesque Miss J, the other was the 6 foot tall young Russian Blonde, "E". Don't cry, Sporadic ;) Miss Mercato's phone is constantly off. I might need to go on a number-gathering mission soon.

Tercar 66

10-21-05, 09:03

I had been to Pancho villa in Astoria hotel . TGIT was closed, may be they have closed it down due to Ramadan. Pancho was good, Less cigerette smoke and noise hence easy to negotiate. Found a lot of pretty looking Chinese all willing to give a good massage and sex for Dhs.100/- in their own appartments. The only problem there is I saw a lot of Keralite Indians just hanging around. I usually see them in groups in all night clubs. They do not pick up any females nor buy them drinks. They get all excited just by talking to them. Any way I managed to get myself a cute looking Tanzanian female who agreed for Dhs.150/- ST.

Piper1

10-22-05, 15:25

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Quote: from Tubby 1 on 12:24 pm on Oct. 22, 2005
Piper - The thought has crossed my mind that there is nothing save the right time and place to stop us arranging our own "gig" and inviting fellow brothers of this forum to come along on a "bring bottle and bird" deal - what do you say???
Cheers,
Tubs

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Tubs -

Happy to be part of a party, but not on a workday next time. I just got back to the office after another awesome threesome adventure with D and his lovely Miss B, but it was difficult to relax knowing I had to "perform" at work tonight also. I'm shagged! Nearly two hours stuck in traffic didn't help!!! Still, we had a great time. Will write a report next few days. Some great pics also, but on D's camera - will wait to see the selection he sends me.

cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-24-05, 17:04

Inspired by Tubby's suggestion, it's Party Time!

If you're a known and trusted member of the site, why not join me and others from about noon this Sunday (Oct 30) with a few girls, for a party. I'll need to leave for Amsterdam about 1130pm, but the party can go well beyond, of course. By the time the cops come, I'll be on the plane. ;)

Best to keep it to 3 or 4 guys, and 12 girls. Okay, okay, 4-5 girls. The idea is to bring a nice group of fun girls in discretely, one by one. Try to bring girls who agree to swapping etc.

We split the hotel bill.

If interested, PM me, and I can start making arrangements. If no interest, I'll just have to party alone (well, not quite alone) ;) .

Recommendations for a suitable venue are most welcome. Preferably, but not necessarily, a two- or three-bedroom suite or daily-rental apartment.

cheers,

Piper

Piper1

10-24-05, 18:44

Update on party idea, inspired by a PM I just received:

Because it's a work day for most, and a suitable venue might be hard to find, here is a possible alternative plan:

Sunday 30 Oct, 6pm to 10pm at a WG's apartment with 3 or 4 girls. We pay around 300DH each. We each play with two or three girls over the evening (singles/doubles etc).

Music, drinks, laughs, erotic dancing (but not from me) ;)

You're home in time to watch the 10pm movie, and the gals still have the rest of the night free for work or rest.

I've PM'd someone who may be able to arrange this with one phone call. If so, quality time guarenteed.

Umbakali

10-25-05, 10:05

I will be in Dubai for business from 15th to 20th Nov. 2005. Any of you guys have any numbers for CIS gals.

Umbakali

Sporadic

10-25-05, 17:28

I will be in Dubai for business from 15th to 20th Nov. 2005. Any of you guys have any numbers for CIS gals.

Umbakali

Yes.

Cheers,

Sporadic

11Bravo

10-25-05, 18:59

cyclone sojourn just trying to set the scene, so, if you're looking for any action descriptions, move on.

as previously posted, every so often, i do like to make a trip out to cyclone. if nothing else, just to see who's still around; what new faces have arrived. imho, still the prime location for attractive females. so, monday night, made arrangements to meet barcrawler there.

i arrived 9pm; bc literally walking in the door behind me. security at the gate (not recognizing me) explained a) no music, b) no dancing, c) it was a bit early. no surprises for me.

entrance a reasonable (relatively speaking) 60 dhs, no drinks included. drink prices: 30 dhs for a small bottle of beer, 25 dhs for a can of coke, 22 for a red bull. what a money maker this place is.

on entering, bc and i found the place sparse, not unexpected at that early hour. still, at least 15 chinese around (a few a-listers already, although not a.), and a few cis.

a word of caution. quickly spotted "bad lucy", she who turned an agreed upon 500 lt into a 500 st (should have known with the "pay in advance" request). then added insult to injury when she, on seeing me the next time in cyclone, telling other girls i could be "had" for a 500 st (had posted this long time ago). she's chinese, brownish shag-cut, looks a bit indian (more angular face), with a small nose stud. her "nice rack", personally know, due to gel pads. avoid.

one other punter in the place, standing at the bar next to us. his lady of choice, chinese, whom he insisted on introducing, ok looking, but certainly not a stunner. being a rather socialable chap, in no small part induced by what he had been imbibing, kindly offered bc and myself a round. not inclined to take advantage of the impaired, we demurred, but he insisted. appreciated.

on spotting an a-lister arriving, he beckoned her over (tall, russian/chinese girl; had tried negotiating with her once... let's just say we did not agree, so perhaps sour grapes when i say she is a "pro"). smelling blood, she arrived at lightening speed. he offered her a drink, then beckoned over another (new face to me) attractive girl in a black dress; up close, her rack was impressive without being overbearing, offering her a drink. the fourth girl he beckoned over, a just arrived rather young, shy-looking one, gave him a look of disgust, and moved away (for sure, she was misunderstanding the situation). she appeared to be one of those who "don't go with old men".

not content with these exploits, he then called the waiter over, and said he wanted to buy "every girl in the house a round, as long as it was not over $200 usd". like i say, sparsely populated at this point. not surprisingly, the waiter returned later, saying the bill (duh) was $180. not that i'm doubting his accounting, but...

bc and i starting to distance ourselves, not wanting to be associated with this behavior. certainly nothing wrong with it, but i, for one, being a bit shy about planting the flashing "sucker" neon sign on my forehead.

number of girls coming over to say "thank you". mr. roll now saying he was waiting for some africans. i advised that would not happen at cyclone; a better bet for "black" was york. good enough, he was ready to venture out; no surprise the 3 birds were willing to make the migration with him. he invited us; we both declined, trying to explain we'd just been there recently. he got a bit "uppity", which i could not really understand, walking away with his entourage, muttering.

reason quickly became apparent; he was not leaving cyclone, just going over to a discreet corner. deciding that we did not wish to miss act 2 of the entertainment, we soon joined him. he ordered a round of 6 beers. now, the waiter's greed got the better of him (the waiter). waiter stated adamantly that the girls did not want "beer"; they wanted champagne. girls did not play along (foolish waiter - meant less money for the girls to pluck). mr. roll, demonstrating that all reason had not left him, declined, deferring all drinks; the champagne suggestion obviously triggering some flag. waiter tried to back-track to the 6 beers, but mr. roll, now on-guard, passed, waiter leaving sans order.

all of us (guys, anyway) put off by the waiter's blatancy. the girls on either side of mr. roll whispering in his ear, the across-the-table joing in, all obviously trying to move the hamstrung prey off the open plains and into a more secluded spot so they could feast unworried about being shoved aside by other "pride" members.

the champagne gambit encouraging him, mr. roll departed, all 3 girls agreeing to a york visit. bc and i left behind, wondering if he really would make the york, or rather be talked into a return to his hotel for some real fun. waiter definitely lost out; with some discreet manipulations, several more rounds would have certainly been consumed.

bc and i returned to the main area to continue our survey.

sporadic/jsf: you remember l, the mature, chunky chinese lady from a year (?) ago, my itch over several years i just can't seem to scratch? the one who started berating me for not immediately paying her price, because i had money and she didn't. she was there, caught me looking, and came over to say hi, not immediately recogning me in my incognito status. when i laughed, she did catch on. there is just something about her, at least for me... perhaps it's a presumed "she will know how to please" due to her mature/sophisticated look (it's just that damn attitude...) did get her mobile number, thinking might be worth a try sometime during ramadan in this buyer-friendly market. she got an incoming call, and quickly disappeared out the door. (there certainly must be something that makes her popular).

also spotted one of the more popular girls, for me rather a plain face (not unattractive) ; very slender body (perhaps it's because she's not one of the nice-racked cyclone chinese that she stands out). but she knows the wisdom of packaging: always in a very stylish dress (think sophisticated cocktail), stilettos. and she knows her market; even though she was 6 feet away, we did not show up on her radar (hey, i'm a nice guy, saying hi; i got a friendly "stuck out her tongue" in return; she knows my price ceiling). spent a long time waiting, but, once she had found her customer (he approaching her), quick deal, and they were gone.

next up, 2 girls approached, one i did recognize, having chatted with her previously. something about her eyes; seem slightly cross-eyed, to me, anyway. her friend, talking to bc, was new, and had a much more friendly attitude, with a ready smile. both cyclone racks. my girl, perhaps because a deal had not been consummated previously, bit more stand-offish, sensing any effort would be fruitless. both moved away, but, given a choice, which i did have, definitely preferred miss smile.

spotted my favorite a-lister arriving. she did not spot me, even with her surveillance radar scan of the bar, looking for likely contacts, i blending into the background "noise". she caught me following her movements, she moving closer to size up the interested client (the a-listers' ability to detect your radar scans truly amazing). had to lol when i caught the flash of recognition on her face as she suddenly did recognize me.

she quickly came over to say hi. asked how business was, she said, looking around, "not good; too many young girls, too few customers, all wanting the young girls, not old ones like me." i chided her, saying ok, perhaps not the usual double header, but certainly she was pitching 1 game per night. she had me rolling when she responded, "yes, only 1 customer, so i have to charge more." (i think she was joking). before departing, she told me i really should call her for some afternoon action (damn that traffic). she excused herself, saying time to go to work, assuming her battle station, ready for action. a true pro; not a gfe, but quality service, a truly beautiful girl, fun to joke with.

bc and i moved over to the "chinese column", i looking to get "smile's" mobile number. talking with her was another girl i recognized from a previous visit, another unsuccessful negotiations episode. we had come close to agreeing on time/price, but... she was attractive (another "angular" face), just something about the "attitude" that i did let her walk on her "take it or leave it ultimatum of 700" (again, previously posted).

now, she was screening smile from my postition, so initiated a conversation with her so i could join the conversation. she claimed to have given me her phone number (maybe), but i'd never called (for sure). i was worried she might contaminate the environment with smile, giving me some bad pr in mandarin (why can't a babel fish really exist?). seeing me eyeing smile, she moved on. pleasant conversation with smile, she being here only 3 weeks. cute face (love the chinese/korean mix), nice rack, just seemed fun, without the hardened shell (yet). got the number, explaining that early wake-up prevented a pull this evening; will definitely have to use soon.

one last stop. had previously seen miss black dress, departed with mr. roll, return. had gone over to joke with her, asking what she'd done with "my friend." her answer rather surprised me. seemed she'd been "cut out" by the other 2 chinese girls, they suggesting that a 3rd girl would not be entertaining (for me, she's the one i would have kept). now, keeping an eye out for smile (you don't want to be seen collecting too many numbers; your credibility rating goes way down), stopped to get hers. nice face; just something about that rack that entices me to pay to see how big and firm they really are.

one last loop at 11:15. more chinese, including some more familiar a-listers visible. my a-list barometer of business still there; obviously, a buyer's market. many more cis than earlier, though, still, not packed with them (they do tend to arrive later). had seen 3 cis that did register on my radar. more punters, but still very favorable m/f ratio. had not seen all that many couples disappearing out the door.

no idea on rates, as i wasn't seriously looking. my one enquiry of smile non-commital, "you've been here longer than me, so you know the rates..." prone to misunderstandings, that... the "usual" cyclone rate above my ceiling, at least recent past history would indicate. still,... just over 2 hours, 3 numbers, plus a forth to give a call to.

cyclone: still recommended. higher prices, though this does have the benefit that most girls have decent places close by (if you need to give up the home court advantage, they are certaily willing - reduces lost time due to travel). less chance of a leisurely gfe (imho), unless you are willing to pay, but can't beat the looks there. definitely a place for the "guaranteed st, lt possible, depending..." gambit. seriously considering another ramadan early visit, one where i do pull for a st.

11Bravo

10-25-05, 19:04

Any of you guys have any numbers for CIS gals.Yes.Started as a low chuckle until I did burst out laughing. Stopped; read it again, and again LOL. Ah, it's the simple pleasures in life.

Nice Guy 99

10-26-05, 08:35

I will be in Dubai for business from 15th to 20th Nov. 2005. Any of you guys have any numbers for CIS gals.

Umbakali

I had one but I lost it ... sorry ...

Piper1

10-26-05, 08:44

I will be in Dubai for business from 15th to 20th Nov. 2005. Any of you guys have any numbers for CIS gals.

Umbakali
The numbers I have for CIS girls are usually treesta or cheteeresta. If they are special, I give them pitsot.

Sporadic

10-26-05, 11:31

Gents, I know how hard it is (ahem) to remember the ladies only by number.

I suggest you try this...
http://www.exile.ru/2005-September-23/the_exiles_name_die.html

It will help you in naming your CIS friends, obviating the need to remember numbers!

They all just call me "Solnitchko."

Cheers,

Sporadic

Tom Sorenson

10-26-05, 12:41

What about a bukkake party sometime?

Piper1

10-26-05, 12:51

What about a bukkake party sometime?
Tom - I had to google that one. First hit I got was Japanese noodles with miso sauce. Second hit was - YAAAGH!!! (with photos)

You are a bad man. ;)

Piper1

10-26-05, 13:35

Ho Folks,

A few questions from my mentors like JSM, Piper etc.
...

Blr Hunk - to answer your questions:

1. Is Meridien Airport hotel girl friendly?
Yes.

2. Whats the nearest action?
Jules Bar in the hotel itself.

3. Is there a racial against Indians?
Occasional/rare reports, but don't worry, you'll find a willing girl.

4. Whats the best way to do it?

a) Start with missionary for a minute to establish eye contact and rapport. She may insist you play with her breasts for a few minutes before penetrating her, as it's the polite thing to do in many societies. If so, humor her request. I find it useful to suck one nipple while pinching the other one between my forefinger and thumb. Then I swap nipples, so both nipples get to have equal attention. If you have the energy, occasionally draw circles around her nipples with your forefinger.

b) Don't kiss her - you need to keep something private. Besides, she may have germs.

c) Next, bend her over and go straight for deep analingus.

d) Next, deep cunnilingus, making sure you avoid the clitoral area altogether. 99% of girls hate having their clitori licked, sucked or nibbled. Try not to make slurpy noises while down there, unless she is from Japan, where slurping while you eat is considered polite.

e) Then, get a blowjob (moan a little to make her think you're enjoying it. Not too loud, or she will suspect you're faking it and she will get upset).

f) Finish with a minute of doggy style to show her you are adventurous. If you are extra adventurous, make funny noises at the same time, like "woop! woop!", or sing your favorite song.

You have now covered all possible sex acts and positions in less than 5 minutes. That is usually enough to exhaust most girls. If she is not exhausted:

g) Rinse and repeat.

Note: Use multiple condoms simultaneously to ensure she has multiple orgasms.

Your mentor,

Piper.

Basiq

10-26-05, 23:44

If you're a known and trusted member of the site, why not join me and others from about noon this Sunday (Oct 30) with a few girls, for a party.

PiperI'm in but again I'm not a known member here...lol.

Anyway, enjoy Amestrdam, we will all miss your posting and pix!

Cool Tiger

10-27-05, 02:04

Eric T

10-27-05, 03:17

...Your mentor,

Piper.

LOL! Way to go coach! :)

Eric

Knomis

10-27-05, 04:20

Where is the nearest action place near 4pt Sheraton?

Road Lover

10-27-05, 04:35

Here is a challenge for you guys. I will be transiting through Dubai airport. I wonder if any of you are aware of any action at the airport or at th airport hotel. I will be grateful for any help in this regard.

I have visited Dubai on many occassions. I find the Golden Sands area in Bur Dubai a good destinations. Lots of girls moving around the side streets there. Frequented by locals. Many apartment hotels there which also makes it conveninet for a quick logistical rendezvous.

On another occassion, I stayed a the Airport Hilton about a month back. No girls on site. Saw an advt in classifieds in an english paper I picked up from the reception. called her. she was with me in 20 mins. no hassles form the hotel staff. she was a japanese and was very satisfying!

Sporadic

10-27-05, 07:07

Knomis:
Where is the nearest action place near 4pt Sheraton?
Walk out the front door. Turn to your right, walk 300 meters, and you will see Rockafellas (CIS joint) at the Regal. Cross the street, and to your left will be the York International. Seriously, this is the center of the Golden Triangle (to include Imperial Suites) you cannot lose staying at the 4 points!

Road Lover:
she was with me in 20 mins. no hassles form the hotel staff. she was a japanese and was very satisfying!Could the lady have been Chinese? It has been years since I last saw a Japanese at Cyclone (and this was a moonlighting stew.)

Cheers,

Sporadic

Frank Booth

10-27-05, 07:17

Great piece on Dubai today at Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173452,00.html

Piper1

10-27-05, 13:24

Piper,

I know that you are off to Holland soon. Will you be passing London, and have spare time on you? If so, there are quite a few parties organised there, on a daily basis. I have been to one of them and would recommend it.

Let me know if you require details.

CT

Cool Tiger - sincere thanks, but I'll be on a direct flight. Will definitely keep in in mind for future though.

I was annoyed about the trip to Amst for a while (too clinical and expensive in RLD), but after recent research, my cup may runneth over. A few "parties" to go to, plus the possibility of a French-Algerian lass from Paris staying with me a couple of nights, in return for "gifts". She's still being a bit coy about what she wants. We'll see.

cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-27-05, 14:40

Great piece on Dubai today at Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173452,00.html
Interesting article Frank, especially the bit about the rapid growth of the city resulting in a rapid traffic problems and rapid growth in the sex industry. The latter may be true, but I think it's more of the same, just keeping up with demand. I read a book recently which was written in the 1950s by a British guy travelling throughout Arabia. His experiences in Abu Dhabi and Dubai made it clear the industry was alive and well even then. (Actually, well before then). The WGs in the 1950s were mainly Lebanese and Moroccan.

The fox article is great PR for Dubai - it is a great place to live. I'll email it to some friends who still think we in Dubai live somewhere in the Saudi desert, dodging bombs and terrorists.

Thanks!

Piper

Piper1

10-27-05, 15:13

Quick cross-post, leading on from where Sporadic discovered I was covering for JSF in our plot to have debauchery with several girls simultaneously and at the same time. Japanese cooking sauces and ice are also discussed:
____________________________

... Damn! If there's one thing I hate more than lying, it's getting caught lying!

Actually, the words I spoke were true - JS PMd a GF Apartment venue, but said (at that stage) he couldn't come due to work. The new plan is more user-friendly and high-octane.

Japanese cooking:

I had to google bukkake also - first hit was Japanese noodles with miso sauce. I thought it was nice and civil of Tom Sorenson/Pussyluvr to invite us to a dinner party, until I read further. Now I know he's more of a deviant than boring ole' Piper!

I'll tell you what though, Mr D from the threesome is a one-man Bukake party. I haven't written the full report yet, but after finishing missionary style with Miss B I went to wash up. I came back from the bathroom a few minutes later to see D getting off Miss B to grab his camera. Miss B was lying there with her tummy and tits absolutely covered with his come, and he had shot all the way past her head onto the wall also. I actually looked around for a hidden bottle of clag (paper glue). Unbelievable.

It must have been the extra-long fucking session (we each only came once by the end of the two-hour session). D, because he has stamina. Me, because I was shagged by the time I got there, and had fulfilled my conjugal obligations twice the previous night.

Could also have been the blindfold on Miss M and our creative use of ice. Ever had a blowjob while the sexy gal has some ice in her mouth? Woooh! Hot chilly woman!!!

cheers

Piper

Frank Booth

10-28-05, 05:28

The fox article is great PR for Dubai - it is a great place to live. I'll email it to some friends who still think we in Dubai live somewhere in the Saudi desert, dodging bombs and terrorists.

Thanks!

Piper

You're Welcome.

Sporadic

10-28-05, 11:52

Piper
in our plot to have debauchery with several girls simultaneously and at the same time. This is much easier than having debauchery with several girls simutaneously and at different times! Now that would be a trick.

I am not usually a big fan of threesomes, but I do smile at the thought of the last one I had (seven or eight months ago.) It was N and Az from f´s house, Az was really new, and N had just gone on the rag, so she was more or less permanently stationed on bj patrol while I played with Az´s ample young fun bags. Parallel beats serial every time.

It was also enjoyable to be a teaching aid, with N (and me for that matter!) giving Az tips on proper technique. There is something to be said for the afterglow when you have two young lovlies cuddled up on either (or both) side(s) of you, simutaneously and at the same time. ;)

Ice is nice, but fire and ice is better (hot tea, cold champagne or ice) the ladies also appreciate this treatment! The kettle and the ice bucket, almost as useful bedside as the wallet!

Cheers,

Sporadic

Piper1

10-28-05, 12:23

Ice is nice, but fire and ice is better (hot tea, cold champagne or ice) the ladies also appreciate this treatment! The kettle and the ice bucket, almost as useful bedside as the wallet!

Cheers,

Sporadic

Hmmm, I'll have to try that. See, I'm still a learner!

cheers

Piper

Piper1

10-28-05, 18:58

JSF managed to get a good deal for a few guys with Feroza and a couple of her gals for a Sunday night game of scrabble, but JS still may not be able to make it (methinks he quenched his Feroza thirst today). No-one else has expressed interest, so it may be just me! Damn. ;)

But seriously, if it's just me, I'll hit a club or two instead to check the available selection. I prefer the clubs, but will keep house calls in mind for daytime visits.

cheers

Piper

Qslinger

10-28-05, 23:53

Hey can anyone give me info on places I can make an in call in Sharjah, if not even Dubai will do!

Thank ppl.

Piper1

10-29-05, 10:42

Here’s a report on the second threesome with D and Miss B, last week. I won’t go into all the glorious detail (one guy PM’d me to say he had a wank while reading my post about the first threesome, and we can’t have that, can we?)

I left work with the plan to get there early last Saturday afternoon, but I was fighting traffic for almost two hours in the midday heat (my car’s aircon needs work), and I took a few wrong turns, so I was an hour late. By the time I arrived, I was hot and frazzled, plus I was already shagged from a busy weekend working hard and playing hard. I would’ve preferred to meet D and B another day, but I thought they would only be available that day, so I persevered, as I didn't want to want to miss the opportunity of enjoying the delectabe Miss B.

Once I arrived at the hotel room (top floor, with a great view over the Arabian Sea), B put me at ease by pouring a stiff Jack D and coke. She was beautiful as ever, wearing a figure-hugging white top, her nipples ever-protruding. She was also wearing the shortest of short mini-skirts, and no underwear, revealing her firm round tanned butt and glimpses of her pussy from behind as she bent over to get ice for my drink. She was a sight to behold (and a body to hold!)

D and B had already warmed up by taking some glamor shots for an erotic photography site they post on. D didn’t waste time, ordering B not to sit with her legs crossed, as he wanted to see everything, and she complied immediately by sitting with her legs slightly parted, showing her pussy. (D had told me in a previous email he wanted a domination session with B). She was very shy and smiling – almost kitten-like in her demeanor.

We soon started on the sofa in a few double-positions. Again, I can’t remember the order of events, but at various stages, she was giving me a blowjob while D was inside her, and giving D a blowjob while I was inside. I do remember I started by going down on her, licking and sucking her clit for ages, tugging at it gently it with my teeth. Lovely!

Later, I suggested we go to the bed, as it was awkward trying double-penetration on the sofa. Once on the bed, we tried different positions, such as B riding D cowgirl, while I prepared her backside for a bit of action. This time I didn’t do a lot of prep, and when I first tried entering her ass (while she was still riding D), she cried in pain and asked me to pull out. I was only partly in, but I knew that pulling out would cause her pain also, so I held still and told her not to move. Soon, I started slowly pushing back in, and after a minute of slow entry and maneuvering, we built up a nice riding rhythm together, and she started calling out “Don’t stop! Don’t stop!” After about 10 minutes of this, D was still lying under Miss B enjoying her riding on top, and said he didn’t have to even move, as I was rocking her from behind. I told him not to be so lazy! ;)

We tried a few other positions. At one stage, B was still riding D reverse cowgirl (facing me), and I positioned myself above her so she could give me a blowjob. Magnificent – she put her all into it, with deepthroat, and shaft-licking. I raised myself a bit higher so she could suck and lick my balls, and she did so straight away. D had already told me B would never give a rim job. Pity – it was so close! We had a laugh as D (under B) was holding her head up high from under her to support her neck while she gave me head. Meanwhile, I was also trying unsuccessfully to take decent (or should I say indecent) photos of the position we were in.

At one stage I went soft (“Honey, this has never happened before!” ;) ) and I couldn’t enter B. It must have been the traffic report on the radio playing in the background, announcing traffic jams all the way back to my office, where I would have to be a couple of hours later. Like they do on the porn vids to get hard again, I tried a bit of manual self-help, but I’m not sexy enough to turn myself on. I gave up and decided to just kiss B and play with her beautiful C-cup breasts for a while. Her kissing was so deep, wet and passionate, and her nipples so hard, that I regained a throbbing hard-on almost straight away. I stood up proud of the achievement and announced I was ready to try again. After a few minutes, I re-entered her ass. D will have to remind me what he was doing with B all this time – my memory is blurred.

After more than an hour I had to have a break – I was sweating and I was knackered! We all stopped and had a cigarette, then D told Miss B to put on the blindfold. She complied. She was lying on the bed blindfolded, and D and I looked knowingly at each other with a wink. We both took some ice and started running it over her breasts and nipples. She was squirming and moaning, and the ice was melting fast. She was literally hot and I could almost see the steam coming off her. I put some ice in my mouth and kissed her, letting the ice go into her mouth, Then I put BadBoy in for another long blowjob – wow! Cool, baby. Meanwhile D was going down on her, and she was moaning like crazy, and calling out all sorts of things like “It feels good! Don’t stop! I’m coming! Oh my god!” (why do we get religious when we’re coming?) .

Later, I took the opportunity to rest by taking photos of D screwing the blind-folded B in many different positions. It was nearly two hours after starting and neither D nor I had come yet. D, because he has stamina; me, because I was bushed and had fulfilled my conjugal duties twice the night before. After I’d taken a batch of pics, D asked me what I wanted to do next. I told him I wanted to finish with B good ole’ missionary style. He got off, and I got on.

I was soft again, but I knew the cure this time. I lay on top of B, still blindfolded and her legs wrapped around me, and started sucking her nipples and kissing her. Again, she was deep-kissing me passionately, and I got hard again. I held her hands and stretched her arms out above her head, pinning them down on the pillow, and started fucking her deeper and deeper and faster and faster – I was fucking her frantically now and I wanted to come. She was calling out loud, and contracting her pussy-muscles so she was tight inside. I could also feel the end of BadBoy hitting her wall inside over and over with every thrust, and soon I shot my load while pushing in as far as I could. Aaaaah. I lay on top of B a minute, exhausted, then gave her a thank-you deep-kiss, and got up to go to wash up. D had been taking pics of me with B in the meantime, but he got back onto her for more missionary.

A few minutes later I came back from the bathroom to see D getting off B to grab his camera. He started taking pics while laughing and I wondered what was going on. I looked and saw B lying there with her stomach and tits absolutely covered with D’s come. I mean covered. It looked like five guys had finished on her. I actually looked around for the hidden bottle of clag (paper glue), as I thought they were playing a joke. But no, it was real. He’d also shot up as far as the wall. Unbelievable. B took off the blindfold, and when she saw her stomach, started laughing and calling him Picasso. I said it was more of an impressionistic style, but I’m no art critic.

We all sat for a few minutes to have a smoke, and I was drinking coke, with work beckoning me, dammit – it cramps my lifestyle. Later as I was driving to work, I was a bit despondent, thinking I hadn’t performed my best due to tiredness and stress and the traffic reports in the background, and knowing I had to leave soon for a tough night at work. D and B will only be available for another one or two sessions, and I thought they might not call me again to join the fun. The next night about 10:30pm however, I got a text message from D asking if I was up for it again!! I wish I was, but I had just finished a long day at work, had an early morning next day, and was still recovering from the previous night’s fun!

They’ll be back in a couple of weeks, and hopefully we can arrange something. B is interested in having a girl join in, but not a working girl, so if you know anyone …

Cheers,

Piper

Piper1

10-29-05, 11:00

Hi Guys,

I have one other known member confirmed for F's place tomorrow evening. One more makes a party - anyone interested? There will be three girls.

The deal would be 400Dh for two or three hours, each guy gets to have fun with two or three girls, one by one, and/or a couple of girls at a time.

If interested, PM me by tonight.

cheers

Piper

PS - if the plan falls through, I'll hit the clubs instead, but I'm usually a late-night-starter, I have no idea which clubs have a good selection early (by about 8pm) - any tips?

Piper1

10-29-05, 15:53

Good News: Three guys and three girls just about set for tomorrow evening.
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Bad News: My possible Algerian gal in Paris emailed to say she may not be able to join me in Amst due to work. She finally sent me her webpage on a dating site, including pics, just to rub it in. She's damned cute. Judging by the pics in her "friends network" on the same site, she likes young muscly Arabic guys, so maybe it's a good thing. I don't quite compare.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

10-29-05, 17:53

Your mentor, Piper.Don't get here much anymore, but damn, Piper, you caught my attention. I've taken copious notes so as to correct my errors; I didn't think to pay attention to her other nipple.

Do you think I should change my song? Seems like some girls are put off by "Tie a Yellow Ribbon".
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Thanks for posting the link to the fox news story, Frank. Always interesting to hear how others view dubai (and some great pictures).
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Piper1

10-29-05, 22:39

Don't get here much anymore, but damn, Piper, you caught my attention. I've taken copious notes so as to correct my errors; I didn't think to pay attention to her other nipple.

Do you think I should change my song? Seems like some girls are put off by "Tie a Yellow Ribbon".

Bravo - your posts are missed. Come back, my friend. Stop having so much sex with cuties, and write more, you'regood at it. The writing, I mean. ;)

I'm glad you took notes - we have to keep the girls happy. Speaking of my instructions, BLR is a cool guy, judging by his PMs - I thought he might be be miffed by my "instructions", but he had a laugh about it - good for him. It's all in fun.

Now to business: I just came back from Rock Bottom with my bodyguard (Ms. Wildcat, bless her soul), and there's some action to be had if you're without bodyguard, both inside and outside the club. If I wasn't being "protected", I would happily have been dragged away by a beautiful young Chinese lady sitting in the shisha bar outside, who smiled at me once too much (once in total).

cheers

Piper

PS, Bravo - may I suggest Iggy Pop's "Lust for liife". It does it for me every time.

Member #1263

10-31-05, 06:47

Hi guys,

Dose anybody know or If one can help the ladies to pay for overstay and return airfare, I heard they are held some where behind the metropolitan hotel in a immigration facilty. Comments will be appreciated.

Cheers

HectorG

10-31-05, 09:22

Damn Piper, that was quite the 3-some FR. I'm sure you inspired more than a few "wanks" this time!

Question: Do girls at Cyclone segregate themselves into groups throughout the discoteque like at York? (example: Asians by the toilets, A-listers by the door, young CIS by the bar, etc). If so, what is the Cyclone girl layout? Heading to Dubai next week after a much too long absence. Thank you.

Tercar 66

10-31-05, 09:38

Went to Astoria yesterday. Pancho's is closed due to renovation. Hit TGIT and was not happy with the crop. Went to my Regular joint in Riga street, they now have a new Indonasian female.

Piper1

10-31-05, 14:34

I have a number of PMs about the party - but it's over guys! Maybe we can do another one in a few weeks. I'll answer the PMs in the next couple of days, as I just arrived in Amsterdam - things to do and girls to see!

cheers

Piper
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Here's a quick cross-post from last night which I wrote while I was tired and cranky:

Aaaaagh! It's 3:45am and I'm still sitting in Dubai airport! My flight is delayed until 730am (from original time of 130am), and I stood in the queue for literally two hours! Finally got to eat at 230am - starving. Damn I 'm tired. If I'd known, I could have played for many more hours, rather than stay at the airport. I was almost tempted to leave after an hour and stay the night at a gal's place, and catch a flight tomorrow instead.

Now that's off my chest, here's a quick rundown of the evening at Feroza's. I'll leave it to the other guys to fill the gaps, as I need to find somewhere to nap soon.

I turned up at the building at 630pm as planned, and DS had just arrived, so up we went to meet Feroza and the girls. Lo and behold, JSF was already in there. LB turned up about 10 minutes later.

The party masks worked a treat - I got some nice pics (no action shots). DS went into one bedroom with Feroza and Julia number one (there were two Julias).

A minute later I asked Sabrina to accompany me to the smaller room. To me, she was the best pick of the four girls - a non-anorexic Julia Roberts look-alike, with a sweet nature. Best kissing I've had since, well, last night. Her lips are full and almost buxom. Long dark hair, nice body, and maybe 22-23 years old (I'd rate her 7.5 out of 10 and worth a return visit). I took a few pics of her undressing in the room with me, but stopped at underwear.

After about 30 minutes alone with her, in various positions, I asked her to call in Julia number 2, a slightly "not in the mood" blonde, but I didn't want to miss the chance to play with her enormous (natural) double-D rack. She wouldn't let me take pics, or touch her pussy, or kiss her (1 out of 10 for her). I had her missionary style for about 5 minutes, while Sabrina was behind me playing with my tackle and encouraging me to come. I held off, because I wanted the sweet Sabrina again.

I lay Sabrina down and finished missionary with her while Julia was behind me playing with me, her enormous rack brushing against my back.

I knew that was it for me for the night. It was nearly 930pm, and I knew I couldn't manage another session before I had to leave, so we went back to the living room and had a drink and smoke. Just as I came out, JSF had left.

15 minutes later DS came out of the room with Feroza and Julia number one - they were calling him a sex maniac. I wonder what earned him that label?

Sabrina labelled me "crazy" (with a laugh) - I wonder what earned me that label?

DS, the two girls I and all sat and waited for LB to come out so we could leave (he was now with Feroza and one of the Julias). We gave up up waiting after 20 more minutes, and bid our farewells. LB was in it for the extra-long haul!

DS and I hit Jockeys, where I took the number of a doll-like Uzbeki girl, and a young tiny Eritrean girl who came in wearing an abaya, and looked a little bit Indian to me.

We finished our beers, and DS had to leave. Since I still had an hour to kill, I wandered down to Regal (where I had earlier stored my luggage) to check out the scene. Not much happening there - just a few mates playing pool, and a small selection of so-so gals (except one nice blonde, who was busy with a guy). I zipped across to York, chatted briefly with a mate, then did the rounds of the place. Got the number of a 6 foot-something (in flat shoes) buxom Russian Gal.

Very slow business for the girls - each of the three I took a number from asked me to promise to call back. They all have places I can stay in, so I fully intend to call them when I get the chance.

A good time overall. Nice to catch up with the guys, and to finally check out Feroza's place. Sabrina is recommended.

Well, I hope the other guys fill you in on the rest - I've left a lot of detail and the "mood" stuff out, because I'm dropping off here.

cheers

Piper

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Blr Hunk

10-31-05, 15:23

Thanks guys for the dope on DXB scene

look forward to a great trip.

11Bravo- thanks for the kid words. they really made my day !

Cheers,

BH

Piper1

10-31-05, 18:40

Thanks guys for the dope on DXB scene

look forward to a great trip.

11Bravo- thanks for the kid words. they really made my day !

Cheers,

BH
Speaking of dope - Amst is full of it. Just wandered around a few hours, and about to have a couple hours sleep before I hit the town tonight. I need it. The girls here are amazing, and I can see there's some "lonely female tourist" possibilities. Had a possibility in a cafe this afternoon, but too knackered to follow through.

Meanwhile, I'll unwind by passing on the pics D and B sent me from the threesome. Caution: they include nudity and scenes of an adult nature. Mature audiences only.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-01-05, 20:56

Question: Do girls at Cyclone segregate themselves into groups throughout the discoteque like at York? (example: Asians by the toilets, A-listers by the door, young CIS by the bar, etc). If so, what is the Cyclone girl layout? Heading to Dubai next week after a much too long absence. Thank you.Yes. There seems to be an "official" rule in place (relaxed a bit during ramadan), known as the great divide. Chinese stay to the left as you enter. It seems they are not allowed down to the "dance floor" end of the bar. You might find a couple down there, trying to warm up; seems the air-con is a bit less down at that end.

CIS allowed everywhere, though they do tend to stay to the right as you enter. Between the bar in front of you, as you enter, and the column to the left, is ram-jam full of chinese (said column being known locally as "chinese column"). There is a real gauntlet to the LEFT of the middle bar, back towards the toilets, of chinese.

At the left rear bar, mix of nationalities.

I've rarely seen any africans at Cyclone, but I do tend to arrive early, leave early.

The a-listers will position themselves directly in front of the entrance doors, in front of the middle bar, and to the right, at the cocktail standup tables, between the middle bar and the large right bar, especially at the front tables. Later on, there will be a whole line there, between the door and the 1st set of tables.

The area to the right, between the middle bar and the right bar can get rather crowded. Bouncers do their best to keep the "traffic" moving. By the behavior here, you can see why the dxb traffic is so f*cked up: see something interesting, STOP right where you are. I swear, if these idiots had emergency flashers, on they'd go (well known fact, if you turn on your car's emergency flashers, you can stop ANYWHERE, do ANYTHING; it's a free pass).

But it's still worthwhile to cruise the bar. Being asian studies, I rarely venture down to the dance floor side.

Layout is readily apparant after 1 cruise of the "circuit".

Piper1

11-02-05, 12:49

This is a cross-post from my report today on the Amsterdam thread, since this is my home town, plus it's a good tale for camparison to Dubai. Skip if you're not interested and don't want to read about an amazing pussy technique.
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Hi Guys,

I checked out Candy club last night. I took a cab there at 1:00am after checking out the RLD. It's about 15 minutes ride, and not worth the trip unless you can make a night out of it, or want to sit with a drink and chat with the girls a while before choosing one, which you cannot do at the RLD. Having said that, most of the RLD girls are much better looking.

Candy Club markets itself as a swinger's club, and apparently they have real swingers there sometimes. But from what I saw on Tuesday night, all (except maybe one) of seven girls were pros. They ranged from 4 to 6.5 out of 10 on my scale (and I'm generous). The place is set up with a small bar and six dark sofa alcoves for open-screwing, and a curtained-off bed area.

I sat at the bar with a beer trying to see how the system worked. A chubby African gal who looked like Idi Amin in drag came over and started marketing herself (with what a mate on the Dubai thread recently called a "Nairobi Handshake") ie, she came and said hello, where are you from, blah blah blah, and grabbed little BadBoy. I told her no thanks, but she persisted, so I walked away and sat at another part of the bar.

None of the five guys there were making a move, so I couldn't use them as a guide to the system. I decided to just be direct and sit with a girl and talk. The first one I sat with was actually an 8 out of 10, but I didn't include her in my ratings, as I'm not sure she was a WG. She wasn't in "sexy" dress. She pretended she didn't speak English, and I soon bid my farewell. Suddenly her English was fine. She left soon after with a young guy who I saw screwing another girl in a semi-curtained sofa area next to Miss 8. They may have been an actual swinging couple. Who knows, but she had been waiting for him so they could leave.

I sat at the bar again, and surveyed the scene. I was a bit stoned, and found it hard to fucus my eyes in the dim light, but I started to return eye contact with a group of girls sitting and giggling in the nearest sofa alcove. There were a couple of 6's, so I thought "why not" and went and sat next to one of them. Her name was Deeana, from Colombia. Very long blonde hair, not chubby, but definitely not slim - let's say solid. Once I sat with her, I could see she was older than I had thought (she was about 30), but still okay looking, and she had a great rack.

After chatting about 10 minutes in her broken English, I asked her to come to one of the "rooms" with me. She asked for 50Euro. I knew I could try for 30 or 40 as I'd read on this thread, but I couldn't be bothered haggling, so I agreed. She stood up, and suddenly I could see she was taller than me (I'm 5'10"). I momentarily wondered if she was a tranny. (I though probably not, but once in the room I the first thing I did was a quick check. Whew! She was a she).

She took me to the curtained off bed, and the session was good enough. Included DATY, covered BJ, and lots of playing and sucking with her magnificent double-D rack, and body kissing by both of us, and appropriate moaning on her part. She wouldn't let me kiss her mouth or put my fingers inside her, and asked me to take it easy when I nibbled her nipples or clit too hard (didn't seem hard to me).

Amazing pussy technique:
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But I have to give her points for her amazing pussy technique. She finished me off by sitting upright on top of me and planting her pussy slowly onto BadBoy. She had absolute muscle control, and was able to make her pussy pulsate and throb up and down my shaft, without moving her body. Incredible sensation, and tighter than anal sex. This, plus her enormous tits swaying above me and her long blonde hair brushing my body made me come soon after. All in all a nice 30 minute session, and her amazing technique had me wanting more.

I had to wait about 30 minutes for a taxi, and sat back at the bar. I watched Deeana lying with the other girls on the sofa, and do amazing yoga-type stretches, incuding her legs around her neck, etc. So that was her secret! As the minutes went by, I was tempted to cancel the taxi and have another round with Deeana for more of the same. I held off, as it was 230am, and I had to get some sleep and keep some of my mojo for a date tonight which I managed to arrange on a dating site only yesterday.

The date is with a 30 year old woman who lives outside of town, but comes to Amst sometimes She looks nice in the pics. I'm meeting her in a nearby cafe tonight. I'm hoping she will stay the night, but if not, I might just have to revisit the window girls area and choose one, just for the experience of course!

Before I leave in a few days, I also want to try Showboat swingers club (which is supposed to be wild), and Paradise Swingers club, which has great reviews.

Summary of Candy Club: if you want to sit around with a drink and relax chatting with some of the girls before selecting, it's an okay place. But if you are happy with a quicky with a much better looking window girl for the same price, save the taxi fare (about 36Euro return from RLD) and save the travel time.

cheers

Piper

PS - I'll write more about the internet dating site later - amazing (and immediate) hit rate.

Piper1

11-02-05, 15:10

The French-Algerian lass in Paris who inadvertently put me onto a great dating website when telling me she couldn't join me in Amst, just emailed to say she can now come and stay with me Friday and Saturday. She asked only for the train ticket money.

She's a 20 year-old blonde, and has gone for the Jennifer Ansiton look. I won't get my hopes up too high, as she's not here yet - she may be just playing with me. We'll see!

cheers

Piper

Piper1

11-03-05, 03:05

Cross-post from Amsterdam - skip if bored or if you object to cross-posts.

I had a dinner date tonight with a beautiful 30 year old woman I met through a dating site. She was gorgeous and a sweetie, and said nice things about me without getting paid. ;) We got on well, and I ended up bringing her to my hotel room for a drink after dinner. She agreed to come for one drink only, as she had to go home to her daughter before the last train left Amst. (There's more to the story - I know she is married, even though she didn't say).

I had to laugh - as soon as she was in the hotel room, she saw one of the party masks I brought to the party at F's the other night. I had purposely left it in a conspicuous place. I told her it must have been left in the hotel room by the previous person. She also saw my camera, also placed nicely by me earlier. She put the mask on and asked me to take some pics, and of course I obliged.

This was going too well, I thought. After a few pics, we sat on the bed and had a drink, then kissed passionately for a while. I thought I was in for a big night. But soon she stopped the proceedings and gave me the "I don't want you to think I'm like this" story. I reassured her, but as she had promised, she eventually insisted she had to catch the last train home, as her young daughter was waiting up. I walked her back to the Central Station, we said our goodbyes, then I headed for the Red Light District.

I checked out some of the window girls. Too much silicone, wigs and make-up for my liking. A few were nice, though. I spoke to a couple of them, hoping they could spark my interest, but I think my mojo is still in Dubai.

Next port of call was a live sex show for an hour, which really put me off sex for the night. (Except for one sexy African gal who raised a tickle). I was sitting near the stage, and didn't appreciate it when the gorilla with a 10-inch strap-on spurted over me. ;)

Before my dinner date, I had called the 20 year old blonde gal from Paris, and arranged for her to come and stay with me from Thursday night until I leave Amst Saturday night. So if she turns up, maybe it's a good thing I'm keeping some mojo aside.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-03-05, 08:01

Close, but no cigar

Finally happened; weekend coincided with Miss W's cycle, so I figured I'd take the opportunity for a night out. BC still tired from Cappy, so flying solo. After a vigorous mental debate with myself (my alter-ego can be so annoying sometimes), decided on Cyclone, hoping that Ramadan pricing (in ALL aspects) was still in effect.

Arrived about 10. Yes, last night of the 60 dhs entrance fee. Inside, "usual" configuration restored; pool tables back outside; now, inside, the usual tables. Even with the reduced entrance fee, that 25dhs pepsi is a drag. On entering, bit more crowded than last time (previous week's Monday). Unfortunately, same number of girls, more guys.

Got a nice wave from the a-lister I know; she was at battle stations already. I went over to say hi, but, sensing she was there to make up time lost from Ramadan, exchanged a few pleasantries, and went back to my place at the bar. She is fun to joke with: later on, as she was trying to reel in a big one across the bar, exchanged some knowing glances with her. Figured it was a done deal; he looked hooked. However, 20 minutes later, she cruised by, alone. Asked her what happened? This is what I like about her: brutally honest: "Not enough money". Boded ill for my prospects...

Another regular pull from years ago (when I could afford her) showed up. Hadn't seen her for awhile. Some ladies, even in a year, don't age well, but she has improved in looks (hardly seems possible). She dresses a bit down, which, on her, seems up; she always stands out. Again, one to be making up those lost profit margins, she was in high gear.

Struck up a conversation with the punter next to me, a relative new-comer to dxb. Gave him a verbal "posts of distinction", pearls mixed with drivel, letting him sort it all out.

Of coure, the 2 ladies I was hoping to see did not seem to be present. I had considered foregoing the Cyclone excursion, and just calling to make a deal, but, like BC, I do like making that initial deal in the bar.

Unlike the previous visit, where very few couples were leaving, last night, Wed., a steady stream out the door. Not a torrent, but still steady. Cute chinese brown outfit standing next to me, flirting. Chatted with her a bit; nice, but too early to make a deal; I still had hopes for 1 of the 2 to show up. Miss Brown classy; flirting, but not possessive.

My drinking companion went over to exchange some words with her; few minutes later, back. Later, found out Miss B had quoted him $200 USD LT (nice if you can get it, just like it's nice having Shk Zayed Road free flowing - yes, it does happen OCCASIONALLY (read holiday), but NOT often). She dropped down to a more reasonable 500, but he was not willing to commit.

The usual faces; always some new. One made quite an entrance; not such a GREAT face (still, very nice), but in a very sexy cocktail dress; that packaging can make the product stand out on those store shelves.

By now, I gave up, so went outside to give one of the to-do lists a call. And here was the trouble. I had 2 entries of the same name; one did have the suffix "new". But I couldn't remember which number was from the York and which from the Cyclone ("new" being relative, not absolute). (BC, you remember the 2 from York; and Miss Smile from Cyclone last time). Damn; I've got to get back to appending the bar name to her name. 50/50 shot, but figured I couldn't lose. When she answered, I'd ask which bar, then could place them correctly. Of course... first number rang but no answer (translation: occupied). Tried the other: out of service (translation: REALLY occupied). Well, that was easy.

Back inside, debating on trying York, going home, or seeing what I could pull from Cyclone. Close to midnight, lot more CIS (a few appealing, even to me), number of chinese, but... Miss Brown had moved off, but still keeping an eye on me (not conceit on MY part; just good business practices on her part). When I looked her way, always got a big smile. It worked.

Moved over to see what her stock was worth. She did have a friendly smile, warm attitude. Nice rack (apparently), well displayed. We did the "how much you want; up to you" dance for awhile, but struck a deal for 500, LT. Given the choices at MY price level, and the way product was flowing out of the store, I did not "not commit"; we left at midnight.

Pleasant enough, rack was legit, b-cup. Lot of kissing, licking, very friendly. No trouble with the usual: round 1, massage, round 2; sleep, morning wake-up, although her morning was a bit early (8:30). We had agreed on a departure time of "when I woke up". With her encouragements, that was slightly early, but it did give me a weekend morning to get something done.

And she had her reasons. She had said she lived closer than usual to where I live, but, on getting to my place, changed the story to "Diera", which I DON'T go to. She explained: she HAD been living in a barrack's style place, 20 girls, but had made arrangements to change to a 2-girl studio in Diera; she was moving tomorrow (Thursday). In between sessions, she'd had a rather heated phone call. Seems that the boss was suddenly upping the price from the agreed upon 1000 dhs to 1500 (this 12 hours before she was due to move). So I'm sure she had to go sort THAT out.

All in all, a nice time. Not an a-lister, but certainly Cyclone class; at York, she would make the a-list. Good service, but NOT GFE (the motions were there, the feelings not - at least the fake moans were not over-the-top). No risk to the regular pitching staff; from THAT perspective, she was farm-league. Given so many others to try, most likely not a repeat.

As she had received an incoming call between rounds, so did I. Of course, it was the "no answer" girl calling back at 1:30, no doubt looking for that double header.

Note: I had been telling Mr. Newly-arrived that, if you came to a place often, you'd get known by the girls. He asked if that was good or bad. Told him it cuts both ways: they'll know if you're a good guy, but they will also know your price. That night, at home, Miss B had told me her friend was telling her NOT to waste time on me, marketing, as "he never takes a lady." She was right; on weeknights, I never do. But on weekends...

All in all, not the best night (BOTH in prospects and delivery), but don't have to go back to Cylone any time soon. Unfortunately, no known itches scratched, but ... will give her a C+.

Auaind

11-03-05, 09:18

So, taking the advice of Piper and the other Sages I decided not to postpone my business trip to Dubai until after Ramadhan. After all, according to the reports I would find a good selection of reasonably "hungry" girls, slightly less noisy clubs (although that doesn't really bother me I don't really go to these places for deep discussions with WGs) and a nice men-women ratio. And I did. So what happened?

Well, I had meetings on Saturday and Sunday morning in Dubai, so my over efficient secretary (probably in collusion with the wife) books me on the Emirates friday night-flight from Dar. Depart midnight, arrive 0600 Saturday. Joy. No sleep on the plane, no sleep at the hotel, in fact no sleep of any kind before work. Oh and absolutely no first-night frantic mongering. More Joy. Don't worry they say, you'll sleep on the plane, really. Here, we'll book you on First Class (only marginally more expensive than business by the way). Hmm.

I spend the entire flight being hassled by the flight attendants (all male) watching the in-flight display (no movies worth watching) fantasizing about all the possible threesomes and foursomes with voluptuous blonde CIS and Chinese girls.. Thankfully we land on time and I fast-track through customs and immigration.

Now, time to get a hotel so I head for the "Hotel Reservations" desk at the arrivals. Ok so they have a special offer, Sir, at the Regal Plaza Hotel only 140Dhs per night bed and breakfast. Now where have I heard that name before? Hey yeah isn't it the one with the Rockafella joint next to York and Imperial? Sounds good! Big mistake. If I had asked (I'm sure it's in the forum somewhere) I would have known that Regal Plaza is totally girl-unfriendly, at least during Ramadhan.

So, in blissful ignorance I head to the hotel and at first sight it looks, smells and feels like the usual midrange Dubai hotel. After a quick shower and shave I head out to my meeting in a taxi. Or so I thought. During rush hour in the mornings it's impossible to get a taxi. It's becoming chronic in Dubai. Traffic jams and congestion. Took me nearly half an hour to get a cab and another hour to reach Jebel Ali.

Anyhow meetings ran into early evening finishing with a boring dinner. I was itching to get back to the hotel to check out this Rockafella place I've heard so much about. I checked into the place at around 11pm after paying the obligatory 50Dhs and true to word, the place was quite full of CIS. Mostly good looking but some real hot ones. Total absence of Chinese girls (or any other race for that matter). Not many men in there - they do start trickling in slowly, though. Before long I spotted 3 girls sitting on one of the tables near the entrance looking very bored. They were all incredibly beautiful with damn near perfect bodies. So, I go over and introduce myself and it turns out trio is from Ukraine. "Lina, Natalia and Salima (eh?)". So I offer to buy them drinks and I engage in a little chitchat with the prettiest one (duh!). In line with the nomenclature around here I shall call them Miss N, S and L.

After 5 minutes the phone rings and she (L) disappears without explanation. So then I continue with the other two (N and S, blonde and brunette respectively) and here's where I started to see the difference between the bar girls in Africa and the ones in Dubai (and I'm sure other places too). Now I'm not sure if they thought I wasn't much of a business prospect or what but after another 5 minutes they tell me "sorry must look business", get up and walk off. um ok. After about half an hour they're back and slump on their chairs so half jokingly I tell them if they don't find anything by 1:00am I'll take them. 500dhs. short time. comes the immediate answer. Sounds like a lot but by now i'm horny, a little drunk and getting impatient. Brunette senses this and asks if I want to leave now. "Ok so which hotel you stay? Oh here? Oh no very bad. Change hotel. Not allowed girl in room." What?! so I run down to the reception to check with the guys (who until now had been very friendly) and they flatly refused. How about if I upgrade to a double room? No dice. So I went back to my brunette upstairs who by now looked even more disappointed than me. What about her place I ask? Negative. Caretaker will call the cops. No way to bribe. Obviously realizing there was no business to be had here she once again wandered off, but not before I got her number. As she walked away I couldn' t help but stare in dispair at that beautiful ass and swinging hips. After two seconds of mourning I wandered over and met a little miss Kazakstan who although wasn't as nice as the other three still had all the right specifications. Once again, though: Where you staying? Oh, here hotel? Oh, Sorry. Next customer please. None of the girls I spoke to seemed to have their own places which we could use.

By now I'm more annoyed than anything else so before calling it a night I leave the hotel and wander over to York. Once again I'm interrogated at the gate. Are you muslim (no). Lets see your ID (eh? don't believe me?). Once I was inside York, though I instantly felt much more comfortable. Sort of the atmosphere I'm used to. Crowded and noisy even during Ramadhan with no music and "limited" customers. Can only imagine what it's like the rest of the year.

Lots of CIS (although nowhere as good looking as the ones at Rockafellas), chinese and "Africans". The majority of the African girls are Ethiopian (who are about as African as Brits are European) with a smattering of Kenyans and Tanzanians. Nevertheless I settled down next to the bar to enjoy the view, wondering who the famous Dubai forums' Miss J's, M's, P's, L's and Q's were. By now I was getting tired so I decided to go on a phone number collecting mission instead. This was surprisingly easy and hopefully now I'll have a full chinese/russian/Ethiop menu to choose from when I return. Prices varied from about 250 LT from some of the Ethiops to 500ST for the better looking CIS.

So, a very short trip (engineered to be shorter by evil office staff) which could have been really fun but ruined by the wrong choice of hotel. Next trip I'm going to do a little more research before I book anything.

That's all for now folks!

Play Safe!

Au

11Bravo

11-03-05, 11:05

...So I offer to buy them drinks... After 5 minutes the phone rings and she (L) disappears without explanation. So then I continue with the other two (N and S, blonde and brunette respectively) and here's where I started to see the difference between the bar girls in Africa and the ones in Dubai (and I'm sure other places too). Now I'm not sure if they thought I wasn't much of a business prospect or what but after another 5 minutes they tell me "sorry must look business", get up and walk off.

...which could have been really fun but ruined by the wrong choice of hotel. Next trip I'm going to do a little more research before I book anything.Nice to see a very readable FR from someone who doesn't normally post HERE, even if reported "unsucessful". At least it provides a "lessons learned".

Myself, I think it's a waste of money to buy a girl a drink just to be "socialable". No lady drinks here. I can drink cheaper back at my place (and so can you if you avail yourself of the ARRIVAL duty free). As you found out, IF she thinks she can do business with you, she'll stick around, a drink immaterial. If she thinks you're a non-prospect, again, as you report, she's gone (but thanks for the drink). Not saying I'll never buy a girl a drink, but for sure, she and I will have a history of some kind.

You really point out the virtues of doing research BEFORE you arrive.

To the masses:
And, by research, I mean reading FIRST. Yes, you (that's the general you, of the masses, NOT the specific you) are busy, you have no time, you'd LIKE to just post a question and get an answer, tailor-made rather than have to buy off the rack by doing some research. There is a hotel thread, and a search function. I just verified that an answer was available. AGAIN, this is NO slam at Auaind; just an encouragement for others to do the research BEFORE asking questions such as "what's a GF hotel?"

Thanks for posting, Auaind. I'm sure your NEXT visit will be much more successful. And, personally, I think an FR like this is actually more valuable than the "I went here, pulled her, did this, did that" variety (as I just posted).

Auaind

11-03-05, 14:16

Hey thanks for the heads-up!

Next time I'm going armed with phone numbers and a list of "eligible" hotels. Problem is every time I get a chance to visit some stupid trade show is on and all the hotels are overbooked.

Most likely my next trip will be nearer to Shoppingfest time so I'll need to book waaay in advance.

Also I've always wondered what criteria various WG's around the world use to assess the potiential of a particular customer (history, obviously, notwithstanding). From what I've seen they seem to be attracted to the same profile of male everwhere I go (western European, big belly, loud).

Points to ponder..

Au

Nice to see a very readable FR from someone who doesn't normally post HERE, even if reported "unsucessful". At least it provides a "lessons learned".

Myself, I think it's a waste of money to buy a girl a drink just to be "socialable". No lady drinks here. I can drink cheaper back at my place (and so can you if you avail yourself of the ARRIVAL duty free). As you found out, IF she thinks she can do business with you, she'll stick around, a drink immaterial. If she thinks you're a non-prospect, again, as you report, she's gone (but thanks for the drink). Not saying I'll never buy a girl a drink, but for sure, she and I will have a history of some kind.

You really point out the virtues of doing research BEFORE you arrive.

To the masses:
And, by research, I mean reading FIRST. Yes, you (that's the general you, of the masses, NOT the specific you) are busy, you have no time, you'd LIKE to just post a question and get an answer, tailor-made rather than have to buy off the rack by doing some research. There is a hotel thread, and a search function. I just verified that an answer was available. AGAIN, this is NO slam at Auaind; just an encouragement for others to do the research BEFORE asking questions such as "what's a GF hotel?"

Thanks for posting, Auaind. I'm sure your NEXT visit will be much more successful. And, personally, I think an FR like this is actually more valuable than the "I went here, pulled her, did this, did that" variety (as I just posted).

Piper1

11-03-05, 14:37

Hey thanks for the heads-up!

Next time I'm going armed with phone numbers and a list of "eligible" hotels. Problem is every time I get a chance to visit some stupid trade show is on and all the hotels are overbooked.

Most likely my next trip will be nearer to Shoppingfest time so I'll need to book waaay in advance.

Also I've always wondered what criteria various WG's around the world use to assess the potiential of a particular customer (history, obviously, notwithstanding). From what I've seen they seem to be attracted to the same profile of male everwhere I go (western European, big belly, loud).

Points to ponder..

Au
Hi Auaind - you have too many consecutive vowels in your name.

Great report, thanks. I could feel the frustration - I've had some nights like that too. (Though I'm surprised you didn't find a girl with her own place). York is best for that. I've seen some the Regal girls arrive in groups in the Hotel's mini-buses, so it's clearly more of an organized thing there. But many would still be working independently with their own place. Just bad luck on the night. Next time!

As for hotels, there are always some available. If the main ones are booked, there are literally hundreds of small two- and three-star types that most western tourists would never consider. If you don't mind them, let me know if you get stuck and I can arrange a booking. You can also find private short-term lodgings in villas on websites like expatriates.com - for about the same price.

As for the criteria the girls use for sussing a potential: wallet. (I'm sure you'll get lengthier anthropological responses from other members).

Well, I'm hanging by the phone waiting for a call, so time to post some pics!

cheers,

Piper

11Bravo

11-03-05, 16:09

Credit where credit is due
This post was written by BarCrawler, who does NOT have access to this site, NOT by me. He asked me to post in his name.

The State of The (Mongering) Nation.

Eid Mubarak!

The end of Ramadan seems a good time to reflect on the current scene in Dubai. There is nothing new here for regular readers and Dubai experts but this should be a recap for newbie’s. This concentrates on the areas I know best. Want more - There is lots - UTFSE

Bar Girls.

Dubai P4P Girls come predominantly from three “Geographic” groups.

CIS – the states of the old Soviet Union. This group is as ethnically diverse as the old Soviet Union; you get Baltic blonds, Slavs, Turkic, Persian and Asians and every permutation mixed. There are overtones of organised crime in the CIS scene and you are much more likely to deal with madams and pimps than with the other nationalities.

African-Again a very diverse bunch, the majority seem to come from the Horn of Africa but you will find Kenyans, Tanzanians, Ghanans, Ugandans, Madagascar etc. They are often lumped together but Ghanan and an Eritrean are as different as a Russian and Chinese in culture and outlook. Most girls appear to be freelance but there are some madams and pimps.

Chinese – More culturally homogenous that the other groups. I have never encountered madams or pimps running Chinese girls, other members may correct me here.

Bars and Clubs.

A good Aid Memoir is CITY – Cyclone, Imperial, TGIT, York. This covers some of the main locations but misses Rocafellas which is a major venue for those looking for CIS girls.

Most Clubs and some bars have entrance fees, some like the Cyclone apply this across the board but you will run into racial prejudice and whether you are charged or not may well, sadly, depend on the colour of you skin.

Central Area – Bur Dubai and Karama.

Cyclone – Expensive with a high overhead in entrance charges and drinks. Populated with Chinese A listers from around 9pm with CIS arriving later. The best CIS seem to wait until midnight or later to turn up. This is the place to go if you value looks above all else!

Imperial Suites– Three bars. Hunters, inside is not a P4P location. one at the right hand side of the building with a separate entrance is a small minor P4P venue with some possibility of early evening activity (before 9). A CIS and Chinese for the most part and unlikely to be A listers. The other bar is Stayin Alive at the left side of the building. This is a large club with a couple of rooms, a band in one and often a belly dancer in the other. Not the top end of the market but some times you can find a gem, a mixture of all the main groups. CIS Madams very much in evidence, and seem very controlling. It dose tend to get over crowded after 10:30 particularly at the weekend. Also there have been reports of pick pockets and other scams so caution is advised.

TGIT – in the Astoria Hotel. The main attraction is for Afternoon action. It is also busy in the early evening. All three groups are represented, again not the top of the market but the odd gem can be found. Pancho Villas upstairs is currently closed for renovation.

York International Hotel – This is the main Meat Market. There is a small bar on the right as you enter; some African girls will hang out here early evening before joining the action upstairs. Also downstairs is the “Music room” usually a couple of bands back to back, pool tables and the odd P4P girl. The Main venue is upstairs. Africans and the odd CIS early on (from around 8), For some reason the Chinese are not allowed in before 9. It gets busy and you will find the biggest selection of girls here, again from all three groups. Not the cyclone for sure but it’s easier to find Gems here than in the Imperial.

Rocafellas – Regal Plaza Hotel. There is a non P4P bar downstairs, the action takes place up stairs. Only CIS girls can be found in this venue it’s very quiet before 10 and doesn’t really get going until 11. Entrance charges have been variable but on my last visit I was charged 50AED with no drink included. Two bands work back to back, before Ramadan the South African band was excellent, posters up for this year indicate a line up change after the Ramadan break. Highly recommended for those seeking CIS girls.

Rumours – Ramada Bur Dubai. The entrance is external and there is no access from inside the hotel. This is a hit and miss “disco” venue that dose not get going until after 11pm. Gems can be found, one night it can be excellent on another a total waste of time. Mostly CIS, some Africans and occasionally one or two Chinese.

Jockey’s Panorama Hotel. The premier early evening venue, albeit a bit hit and miss. For some girls it’s their main office, others pass through early on the way elsewhere. CIS, Chinese and Africans all use the place. A lot of guys use it as a local pub and go to watch sport on the TV so the M/F ratio can be better than it appears.

Mariners Club – Seaview Hotel. Band first P4P second but a very nice venue. Mostly Chinese and CIS with the odd African. The P4P marketing is very relaxed and Gems can be found. Also it’s a good place to take your P4P date.

Victory Pub – Admiral Plaza Hotel. A minor venue with mostly Chinese girls but you do see the occasional CIS or African. OK for a change if you are passing.

Highland Hotel. Of old this was the infamous Arif Castle. – Recent reports suggest subdued but pleasant P4P activity.

Houses
Discrete private locations where a number of girls work (in calls). You will need a personal introduction. (not from me - I do not use them)

Bur Dubai Streetwalkers.

This scene is very much hit and miss and vulnerable to LE activity. Likely area to find SW are around the back of the Ramada Bur Dubai, and the Golden Sands area as far as the back of Spinney’s on Trade Centre Road. They are also in amongst the shoppers on Mankool road between the Ramada and Regal Plaza some evenings.

SW do incur the wrath of local residents people do not want it outside their residences (very understandable) and there are purges. It usually moves a few streets over. Mostly the bottom end of the market, girls who are not confident of recovering the overheads of getting into a club.

Other areas.

A brief rundown of some main venues outside the central area. I am not an expert on these. Search back through Piper101 FR's for more information.

Amnesia club – Above the Hardrock Café by Junction 5 on Sheik Zeyad Road. Recent reports suggest this is a upcoming venue and will be one to watch as that part of town gets busier.

Rattlesnake – Metropolitan Hotel on Sheik Zeyad Road. Some CIS and Chinese but reports suggest the management is very unfriendly towards Chinese girls.

Jules Bar at Le Meridian Village. Some good reports about this place

Hyatt Premiere – Frequented by good looking A Listers who according to reports are unlikely to go for less than 800AED.

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What I will add myself, 11bravo, is that the above information has remained true for years. Yes, prices have crept up, but I believe the above info will be true next year, and the next, and the next...

11Bravo

11-03-05, 16:26

(Though I'm surprised you didn't find a girl with her own place). York is best for that.

As for the criteria the girls use for sussing a potential: wallet. I'll agree and disagree with Piper:

Disagree: I think Cyclone is the best bet for girls with accomodations; they can afford it. And a number of them are very happy to take you back to their place (which is close) to cut down on lost time due to travel.

Agree: Wallet. Then safety.

(From what I've seen they seem to be attracted to the same profile of male everwhere I go (western European, big belly, loud).For the girls who do not have x-ray vision, what THEY feel is the best indicator of wallet size.

Piper1

11-03-05, 17:01

I think Cyclone is the best bet for girls with accomodations; they can afford it. And a number of them are very happy to take you back to their place (which is close) to cut down on lost time due to travel.
Probably right Bravo - I meant if choosing between Regal and York. I'll have to keep Cyclone in mind. Deserves a long-awaited re-visit by the sounds of things.

cheers

Piper

PS - I'm in Amst, so shouldn't I be out on the town instead of sitting at the laptop? I need therapy. ;) But seriously - so much running around in Dubai, it's great to relax a bit. Plus, I can only check out the streets so many times.

Willy1234

11-04-05, 01:40

This is a fantastic report and the best help for newbies like me who will be in Dubai for the first time early December.

Many many thanks for this - invaluable

11Bravo

11-04-05, 14:01

...the best help for newbies Newbies should always check out the "Reports of Distinction" thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2026

Jackson has set up this mechanism to act as a convenient FAQ location.

Some of the reports might be a bit long (but it's NOT that much reading), and doing a bit of homework beforehand WILL increase the chances of having a good time here. And, AFTER reading, if you need to ask a question, much better chance of getting a legit answer back, rather than a rebuke (at least from THIS crotchety old man). Nothing like seeing a question that has ALREADY been answered (MANY times before... that's why the "Distinction" thread).

Below, in item 1, you can see what happens if you don't do your homework.

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Notes:
Someone had a good night at York last night (speaking of the provider). Miss T, checking in with the network, reported one of her friends had a 400 USD payday from someone newly arrived. (I'm thinking it was a 400 [no currency] quote which the punter assumed to be in his own...) I say, more power to her... Not a rip-off, but a tax on stupidity and not doing your homework.

Reminder: Know the going rates, ballpark anyway. If a currency is not stated, clarify. If it seems to low (e.g., 200, all night), then clarify BEFORE leaving the bar. I ALWAYS "echo" the agreed rate, adding "dirham" if appropriate, just so there is no misunderstanding.

TGIT afternoon certainly seems back to normal. Dropping off, not picking up, (11b taxi service), pulled into the hotel's parking lot. Even at 3pm, there was already a gauntlet to run at the lot's entrance. There now was a security guard in the lot... perhaps to keep the gawking masses at bay.

And did see 2 very attractive chinese leaving... one with a customer, both fighting their way through the gauntlet to reach a taxi on the street, and another single girl brave (or foolish) enough to leave on her own.

Umbakali

11-05-05, 09:03

I will be in Dubai for one week starting 14th Nov. on business.Please advise how to get telephone numbers for some the girls.

Umbakali.

Piper1

11-05-05, 14:57

Last couple of days, I went to another swingers club (Paradise) - wild! Followed by a visit to a window girl later the same night. Also wild, but the night ended on a sour note when I realized my passport and cash were no longer in my pocket. Now I'm stranded in Amst for another few days. Damn! ;) I'll write up reports on the Amsterdam thread of ISG when I get the chance.

My leetle French girl is out shopping at the moment before I bring her to her train for Paris in a couple of hours. She is a long story in herself. She's Parisian-born, but of Arabic heritage (and looks it), and very cute. Her sexy French accent a turn on. She's very sweet, but even for 20, still very naive and innocent (makes you realize by comparison how hardened even the young working girls become quickly). You won't believe this, but she's a virgin, and intends to stay that way until she is married. I found out the hard way, so to speak.

Last night, we did a bit of the touristy looking around, had dinner, then back to the hotel early. Took me a long time to warm her up even after we were in bed. At first she wouldn't allow deep kissing or even touching her lovely smooth caramel tits, but after a long massage she loosened up (so did her clothes) and she let her defences down a bit. Eventually we were kissing passionately, and we slowly and awkwardly got naked over another 30 minutes or so. Took a lot of convincing and a lot of time, but she finally finished me off with a nice enough blowjob. She said it was the first time she had done it - it felt like it, but who knows.

I still can't understand why a young gal would agree to travel 6 hours to stay with a much older guy she's never met, knowing he's married and away from home, stay overnight with him in a hotel, and not intend to have sex. Bottom line, I think she did it for the adventure - a bit of a "teen" fantasy. She's good-looking and has a strong personality, but has a real self-esteem problem, constantly needing re-assurance.

I had intended asking her to stay another night, but her mother kept calling, thinking her innocent daughter was staying at a friend's place, but obviously suspecting something was up.

Despite not going all the way, she was a great experience, great fun, and a nice change from the instant-gratification WG experience. I had to do some work for a change, and I don't mind the occasional challenge.

Well, I'm planning on visiting a wild swingers party on a boat tonight.

Life can be boring sometimes. ;)

Cheers

Piper

Cool Tiger

11-05-05, 19:12

Piper,

Sorry to hear about the loss of your passport and cash. Depending on which Embassies you have to use to get replacement passports, I hope you get yours fast.

It is for this precise reason that I avoid going to European resorts, including London. If you have no choice but to visit them, always take extra care of your passport and cash (you were lucky if your credit cardswere not swiped).

It is for the above reason that I enjoy Visiting Dubai so much. See my previous posts regarding how safe it is mongering in Dubai, when compared to loads of other resorts.

11Bravo

11-05-05, 21:41

Please advise how to get telephone numbers for some the girls.Oh, God, take me now.

That is certainly one thing that has NOT been covered in the forum's 227 pages. Because, here, it is SO difficult. After all, this is the Middle East. There's just no way to describe the involved process to a newbie.

I would like to help you, but I only have numbers for other girls, not your some.

For you, I'd recommend printing out your phone number on small slips of paper, walking around town (including malls), and when you see a cute girl, get next to her, look her in the eye, and drop your paper. But this can be rather hit and miss (plus, I hate litter).

Another possibility, widely used by a number of locals, is to follow the below steps(please take notes). This is sure fire, guaranteed!!!!! Go to a mobile shop, buy a thousand phone cards Take 1 card (to make it easy, take the top one), scratch, and plug number into phone Throw away the used card (in a trash bin, please) Start dialing. You can skip 000-0000, 000-0001, etc. I'd advise starting perhaps at 1xx-xxxx, and working up. If a man answers, hang up. If a female answers, talk to her. It seems you're looking for CIS, so "Previet" should do it. Or you can use a more direct approach: "I want to pound your ass, you big-titted babooska" If she says "da", or "previet" in return... close the deal When the card runs out, take the new top card, scratch, insert number, and repeat.
The beauty of this method: you will get ALL THE NUMBERS.

I'd tell you my method, but you didn't use the secret password, nor the secret handshake.

I would strongly advise you to stay away from the pros - shark feeding frenzy. Someone could get hurt in the stampede.

Piper1

11-06-05, 05:21

Piper1

11-06-05, 22:48

I heard a funny story from a cab driver last night - he works for the swinger's club I went to (overseas), and when I told him I'm from Dubai, he told me about a married couple from Dubai he had recently driven to and from the club. Both of a nationality you wouldn't expect, if you know what I mean. Apparently the young wife was a stunner, and she was wild. She was the star attraction at the club that night. Sometimes you have to travel to have fun. Naughty naughty.

I had a great time there, besides getting my nose flicked hard, and a gay guy getting too friendly in the sauna. Later I had sex with a log in a window. I posted my tale on the Netherlands/Amsterdam thread if you're interested.

Cheers

Piper

Bawarde

11-07-05, 00:37

Hello Piper,

I stay in the UAE. Where is this Swingers Club. Would be interested to visit with my stunning Lebanese girl but swinging girl. Hopefully quality gets me quality at the Club.

Thanks,

Sporadic

11-07-05, 19:59

Piper1

11-07-05, 20:33

Bawarde, Piper was posting about something that happened in Amsterdam.

Sporadic

My fault for not making the post clear.

Bawarde, check your Private Messages.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-07-05, 23:09

If you are going to Lurk, at least have the common sense to try to understand the post you are commenting on.

Just in case you have not caught the drift, Bawarde, Piper was posting about something that happened in Amsterdam.I'd apportion blame 70/30.

I certainly agree that one should read a bit of history before posting.

And it is a free forum; you can post what you want, where you want.

However, think it's a common assumption that posts on the dubai thread refer to events in dubai, or at least in the uae. Maybe titles should be mandatory, giving geographic location referred to in the post.

Perhaps Piper can ask Jackson for his own thread. That way, as we wait for the book to come out, he can serialize his life without sowing confusion.

Piper1

11-08-05, 05:53

I'd apportion blame 70/30..I'm humbled by your leniency, Officer.

And it is a free forum; you can post what you want, where you want.. - as I've subtly reminded a certain discourager of new posters many times.

However, think it's a common assumption that posts on the dubai thread refer to events in dubai, or at least in the uae.My post referred to a Dubai issue, if you read between the lines (as you well know).

Perhaps Piper can ask Jackson for his own thread. That way, as we wait for the book to come out, he can serialize his life without sowing confusion.Would you like that? Go ahead and suggest it. Not a major issue for me. I think I contribute nicely to this forum, with much informative advice, a few tales of adventure, plus a few laughs along the way (that's what it's all about, no?), so I'm not sure what your issue is. Relax old pal.

By the way, you can read about the adventures I had tonight with a gorgeous non-working Cuban girl from a dating site (no sex, dammit, but a great night out, and I'm in love ;) ), then terrible sex with an African working girl, then great sex an hour later with a hot Indonesian working girl, on the Amsterdam thread (when I get the time to write it). Oops. :)

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-08-05, 14:48

- as I've subtly reminded a certain discourager of new posters many times.If the reference is to me, I have nothing against new posters... as long as they have something to say. I'm very happy when I read an FR from a different point of view. But a series of "I need contacts", "Where to go", "How do I meet girls", WHEN that info is readily available by doing a little work, I find a bit obnoxious. Just like the little kid who barges into a conversation WITHOUT listening first. I've found out, by personal experience, that barging in does tend to make you look the fool. :)

I think I contribute nicely to this forum, with much informative advice, a few tales of adventure, plus a few laughs along the way (that's what it's all about, no?)No arguement there. Your contributions are WELL appreciated by ALL.

I fully understood that the cited post did deal with a "dubai story", and, being aware of your location, was not confused. However, in my stupidity, I am a bit baffled as to what these:
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have to do with dxb? Agreed, you can always skip; just like you can skip THIS post.

Or perhaps we should encourage punters to "compare and contrast" venues? Afternoon TGIT to Soi 7 Bier Garten; Al Ain parking lot with Sukhumvit? Baron's (sadly deceased) to the apt building round the corner from Spinneys

You will also note the use of a link to the source post. Beats copy and paste for cross-posts, as, at the least, it doesn't return false positives to the search engine, avoids "double spec-ing", less space, ... just a simple click.

Willy1234

11-08-05, 14:58

Hi all,

I am in Dubai early December, staying at the Al Sondos. I have read the forums, followed the advice, and know that when I get there, I will still get ripped off, scammed or whatever. This is part of the learning curve. I am completely new to P4P, and looking forward to an adventure which I will report on as soon as I can. I offer at this pre-emptory stage, the following observations:

1. To Newbies. RTFF not once but several times. I had many questions, but found most of these answered on the 3rd or 4th read. Bravo has a point in that even as a newbie, I think it is crazy to jump in with questions that have been answererd several times if you RTFF.

2. To Bravo - please be patient with us, we envy your experience and knowledge. We also have a soft spot for cranky old bastards.

3. To Piper. Please apply to Jackson for your own thread, this would reduce the existing threads by at least 70%. Your posts have been stupendous, your photography stunning, and your experiences worthy of a book, however I have a couple of questions.

a. Given the time you spend photographing, relating to the ladies, and presumably sleeping a little, which from yourposts, seems to be a total of 20 hours a day - do you have a real job which fills the other 4hours.

b. How do you manage so much in so little time - does Viagra work or are you naturally the envy of the rest of us.

c. Is that really yours, or digitally enhanced. Jeez I wish

Willy

Hope no-one takes offence, all meant in good fun

Piper1

11-08-05, 15:07

Bravo -

Good to see you have the time and desire to do your research on me, including your compelling collection of evidence (which I haven't looked at, as I'm sure they are simply links to some off-topic posts of mine). Out of several hundred posts, one would expect some to be off-topic. However, ALL of my posts are in the spirit of the forum.

I could also spend my time searching the forum for evidence, and include links showing off-topic posts by you, but that's not my style, my friend. I'm not here to bag anyone, but to share stories, pics, info and a few laughs.

Many posts will not be of interest to you - that's the nature of an open forum, and it's a good thing IMHO. If you don't like certain posts, skip them.

Anyway, let it rest - you must have better things to do with your time. I know I do.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-08-05, 17:19

Does anyone know if Movenpick is girl-friendly?
Any advice appreciated.ANY advice? Well, I certainly would NOT look on the hotel thread, especially the current page!!!

What can I say? I remain true to form. And when someone serves up an easy one, you have to go for the fence.

... know that when I get there, I will still get ripped off, scammed or whatever. This is part of the learning curve.

2. To Bravo - please be patient with us, we envy your experience and knowledge. We also have a soft spot for cranky old bastards.We were ALL new once. BUT, reading the forum, learning from others' experiences, is how you avoid getting ripped off, and see how to have a good time. BELIEVE me, it's not difficult here.

Not saying it can't happen, but I've found most all girls are pretty straight up and do deliver what they say (although there is some doubt, based on reports, about the africans). Treat them decently, honest with them, it is returned in kind.

Sporadic

11-08-05, 17:54

Regardless of crustiness, the only response to Voss123 is RTFF.

For crying out loud, it is on the most recent page in the hotel thread.
Willy
I have a couple of questions.
a. Given the time you spend photographing, relating to the ladies, and presumably sleeping a little, which from yourposts, seems to be a total of 20 hours a day - do you have a real job which fills the other 4hours. Everyone knows that oilfield engineers never really work.
b. How do you manage so much in so little time - does Viagra work or are you naturally the envy of the rest of us.The right provider managed five shots out me in one night. Miracle drugs? Naw, just find the right girl!
c. Is that really yours, or digitally enhanced. Jeez I wishYes, the camera is his, and it is a digital camera, I have no idea if it is enhanced or not. Now getting all and sundry to pose, THAT is an "I wish" kind of issue. He must dazzle them with tales of the oilfield.

Piper, you should write a book for the "one handed" crowd! Or at least get a kickback from Mr. Jackson.

Bravo, it was precisely your rebukes (to others) that lead me to read, and as Willy said, re-read the forum before posting. Glad I did. I learned and later tried to make a small contribution.

Cheers,

Sporadic

11Bravo

11-08-05, 17:55

Reliving the Past (in a number of ways)
Lot of filler (perhaps irrelevant), so have split out the informative bits.

Met up with BarCrawler at Seaveiw for a planned early evening out. I arrived at 9:30; no wg's present, 10-15 guys in various groups about. Not having a chance at dinner, ordered a plate of spagetti. Not the greatest, but not bad, and always tastes good when you're hungry. Observation 1: The cost of my bar tab: food plus 3 cokes in 2 hours was LESS than the fee for just walking into Cyclone.
Observation 2: Happy Hour ends at 10pm
Observation 3: Band is back, as good as ever; 1st set starts at 10 (fair trade-off for Happy Hour ending).By 9:45, 1 chinese wg had appeared, sitting forlornly at a table. She wasn't bad, but not one to change my early evening plans. At that hour, she couldn't drum up attention from anyone. By 10, 5 or 6 more chinese had arrived, plus several girls with "dates". Also appearing were a few -stanis, and 1 lone african (definitely NOT one of the attractive ones I have seen there).

Bit after 10, BC arrived, with his GFE. (No need to explain why the late arrival). She looking quite nice in a smart dress and boots (do like the onset of winter here). With just a casual conversation, readily apparent she is a fun lady, with class. Bit envious there, BC. That special status is nice. Observation 4: Seaview good place to "bring your own"; can be fun for both.By 10:30, band well into rocking the place. I was singing along to 99% of the songs; surprisingly enough, BC and Cappy had NOT moved off. Like I say, she has class. :) Perhaps it's good that the band, though toned down a bit, still drowns out the person next to you.

By now, place was filling up, but not crowded. Easily spotted 3 chinese that were interesting: one with a large rack that looked legit beneath her t-shirt, another slender one with a cute face. Observation 5: At Cyclone, they would be one and the same person, but here, often two distinct ones. That Cyclone entrance fee does buy something for BOTH server and client.The third was cute in the usual sort of way. Several more -stanis had arrived; a couple, although looking a bit older, also attractive. The 2 or 3 european CIS that I saw did not appeal (to me, anyway). But nothing to dissuade me from my "1 set and home alone" plans.

Then, at the next table, a very appealing chinese (for me) appeared. Below-the-knee boots, plaid knee length skirt, what turned out to be a tube top covered by a blazer. Think "school girl/office girl" mix. Slender, all-right face. But the outfit really set her apart (YMMV).

Catching me eyeing her, while she did not come over, she made sure to always stay in my line of sight. I thought she might be with a date, but some casual observation indicated she was solo (for now). Giving her a big smile, she catching my slight nod, she came over to join the 3 of us. Observation 6: As stated before, like Jockey's, Seaview is a place to make sure you don't step on any toes. Usually not, but a couple minutes observation will stand you in good stead.Her english was, should we say, LIMITED. Her friend, a cute veteran, stopped by to offer me encouragement to pull her, explaining it was her 2nd night at the office, having only arrived this week, and she needed work. Normally, for me, inexperience does NOT equate to attractiveness. However, mostly due to the packaging, my resolve was crumbling.

Couple of years ago, I could pull a ST mid-week, with only minor complications at work the next day. These days... that vigor of youth dissipated, major work slow downs result; very real concern about face-plants on the desk. So I've been limiting myself to weekend sports.

Considered just getting a number, but, my luck (experience here), next time I saw her, it wouldn't be THE outfit. And with the limited english, trying to explain THAT outfit would be fruitless. So, figuring it wasn't THAT late, 11, band just finishing their 1st set, asked her how much for ST. "200 dollars."

Now, my first thought was this was perhaps the only price line she knew. Repeated the question, enunciating "ST". Same answer. Looked around; no, not Cyclone, not an a-lister. Snapped back to reality; getting ready to depart solo.

Her veteran friend stopped by, intervening. She clarified: 500 dhs would be sufficient. I just kept thinking, perhaps they hadn't heard the NOT in the "NOT all night; short time". Switched tracks; how much for 2 hours? Now, the response was "Up to you; you nice man."

Well, as ANY reader of this forum knows, that IS an obviously FALSE statement. And I really don't care for the "up to you"; too much room for disappointment. OK, back to my original plan - wait for the weekend pitching staff.

Cappy had been out on the dance floor with a small group dancing to the house music. She returned, and, using her magic, got BC to get up and join her. That was just about my cue to depart. Miss Schoolgirl made another proposal: 300 dhs for 2 hours. For me, that was a step up in class (the car rental kind, as in "that price for a Toyota? I'd expect a decked out Honda for that." ) . I could see that we were mentally drifting apart; me eyeing the door; she the other customers.

Did some quick mental forecasting. I'd offer 200, she'd stick with 300; then we'd compromise at 250 after another 10, 15 minutes. It wasn't worth it - the 50 dhs, that is. My time, and THIS opportunity, more important. I had to leave now to get my money's worth (hey, bottom line, it is a business), and if I didn't, then I'd spend the next couple of weeks wondering, and trying to hook up, eventually succeeding without the packaging. Gave a nod, and we were gone (sorry for not saying goodbye, BC, but you're a big boy; the clock was ticking).

Nice 2 hours. Very friendly, won't quite say GFE; perhaps a bit of trepidation/inexperience with the scene on her part. It would have been more fun as my more usual LT with a more leisurely pace. She was a very nice kisser; and, playing schoolboy on the sofa, discovered she was getting wet naturally. However, as the 5:30 alarm was creeping ever closer, it was ME who was the one rushing a bit, cutting the couch short and moving to the bedroom. 2 rounds with an average massage in-between. As expected, with the packaging totally removed, average body.

Afterwards, knew I had slightly overpaid (so THAT's how price inflation starts). But, no regrets, except that it had been ST, with limited fantasy time (my constraints, not hers). Observation 7: A good price is the price her experience is worth to you, then.

Observation 8: Perhaps one of the reasons for the price expectations of late is given by the group of guys next to us: short hair, clean shaven, muscular, speaking (to my ears), without accent. Obviously transiting to/from points north; the usual military off-limits places not applicable to contractors. Will admit, did give me a second's thought to security.

Piper1

11-08-05, 18:20

2. To Bravo - please be patient with us, we envy your experience and knowledge. We also have a soft spot for cranky old bastards.

3. To Piper. Please apply to Jackson for your own thread...Your posts have been stupendous, your photography stunning, and your experiences worthy of a book, however I have a couple of questions.

a. Given the time you spend photographing, relating to the ladies, and presumably sleeping a little, which from yourposts, seems to be a total of 20 hours a day - do you have a real job which fills the other 4hours.

b. How do you manage so much in so little time - does Viagra work or are you naturally the envy of the rest of us.

c. Is that really yours, or digitally enhanced. Jeez I wish

Willy

Hope no-one takes offence, all meant in good fun

Hey Willy, thanks for your comments. Here's my responses:

1. I agree that newbies should read and research before jumping in with questions. But it doesn't bother me if they do - there are more important things to get bothered about. Sometimes I help the newbies out with info, sometimes I simply read on to other posts, but I never criticize them. It's just not my nature. (I'm a lover not a fighter) ;)

2. Don't get me wrong - I know Bravo personally, and I like the cranky dude (but geez, can't I get cranky just once?) He's a backbone of this thread, and he's actually a fun guy to hang with. We differ in our approach to the forum, but would anyone want all "Piper-type" posts, or all "Bravo-type" posts? I doubt it. Variety of styles and opinions makes it interesting.

3. (a) I really don't think I flood this thread, so I don't think having my own thread is necessary. But if enough senior members disagree, they can ask Jackson, and he will oblige, so it's up to you guys. My posts will be less frequent in the near future anyway, as I have extra work and other commitments coming up.

(And thanks for compliments about the posts and pics - I enjoy producing them).

(b) I have a very busy work schedule, probably 60-70 hours a week most weeks. (And you're right - I don't sleep much). Because I post most of the pics, and fairly regular reports here, it probably *appears* like I spend a lot of time on the hobby. In reality it's a couple of days a fortnight, give or take (this past week has been unusually busy with the fun, because I'm on a break in Ams ... I mean somewhere else). ;) Part of making my living is writing, I enjoy it and I'm fast at it. Having fun with the hobby and writing these posts is a nice diversion from a busy job. Beats golf.

No, Viagra doesn't work for me (ie no significant enhancement in performance), just side effects. Tried a couple of half-tabs of Cialis for recreational purposes, same problem - blood goes to my head instead of my little fella. Luckily I don't need to use pills yet, but in a few years it may be another matter.

c) I'm just the average nine-inch guy. Kidding - must be the fish-eye lens. ;)

cheers

Piper

PS Sporadic - LOL re the digital enhancement. :)

11Bravo

11-08-05, 20:12

He's a backbone of this thread... We differ in our approach to the forum, but would anyone want all "Piper-type" posts, or all "Bravo-type" posts? I doubt it. Variety of styles and opinions makes it interesting.Agree and disagree (actually, disagree and agree, in that order).

I don't think anyone is a backbone. Posters come and go... some of us just have some extra time on our hands (as in me) in the temporary time we are here. I wish more would post.

Our approaches are different, and like Piper says, that's not bad. Sameness is boring (unless it's an all star pitching staff).
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In replying to a PM, in occurred to me that there's another reason for reading the threads. It will save you where it counts: in the wallet. You don't want to appear a newbie when you are out and about. If you've read the forum, you'll know and understand the "scene" here. Remember, there is a reason she's asking you how long you've been in dxb. I think someone like Willy1234 will be fine; he knows what to expect, when to talk, and when to walk.

Auaind

11-09-05, 18:22

Research is hard work! Or so people seem to believe. We've become used to instant gratification with our culture of convenience -cellphones, blackberry email, google, video-on-demand, etc etc. Makes me sometimes wonder how people did business (any kind not just p4p) before all this. Good planning perhaps? I guess it's the price of progress.

ANY advice? Well, I certainly would NOT look on the hotel thread, especially the current page!!!

Once I was a little lazy and suffered terribly as a consequence. It didn't take much to learn. To all people- please please check your hotel status and average going rates (for the girls not the hotel) before you book (the hotel or the girls) to avoid disappointment. Two mouse clicks only and only 0.5 calories used up in the process.

Treat them decently, honest with them, it is returned in kind.
I find it suprising how many times this has been repeated (by myself as well) in numerous forums/threads. If you don't act like a boyfriend don't expect a GFE. Not a hard equation even for us village idiots..

Just a regular Gent looking for fun in the wrong places..

Au

Fawie

11-10-05, 00:22

hello fellow mongers,

Never contributed to this thread, but I should have. I fear however my info is well outdated. Reason I am posting a message here is because I had a thought and wanted to ask to dubaites for some advice, I grew up in dubai and it broke my heart having to return home to old blighty a couple of years ago.

Would like to come back though and get up to the old habits again, yep you bur dubai crowd know what I am on about: ).

But. ,

I had to leave the country a couple of years ago due to some debt which tends to happen as a consequence of not being paid your salary for a few months (hear this is changing now so am glad) Coming back to the UK allowed me to get on my feet again and need to thinkk of a strategy of paying a visit to what I class as home.

What I would like to know if any of your guys have some knowledge in this area is the following.

1) how would I be able to find out exactly what records the local PD have on me

2) how could I pay the banks the cash I owed them (I've got the cash now but am scared they will decide to persue me for not paying regradless of wether I wanted to make amends or not)

3) how do I know that I would not be arrested on arrival, if I managed to clear my debt before entering.

4) would you advice getting a local lawyer to sort out my affairs?

Any help any of you might be able to give in terms of advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys

F

Willy1234

11-10-05, 09:06

I think someone like Willy1234 will be fine; he knows what to expect, when to talk, and when to walk

Such confidence in me Certainly more than I have.

I am new to Dubai, and new to P4P. I have read as much as I can, half think I know what I am doing, and will work out the other half on my feet.

I expect

1. To get ripped off (a little)
2. To get conned (a little)
3. To make a fool of myself (a little)
4. To learn (a lot)

But above all, to have a damn good time doing it. Whatever happens, it is going to be a hell of an experience for me. I cannot find any reference to my hotel, the Al Sondos (not the Dar Al Sondos, the other one), and whether it is GF or not, but I can guarantee I will find out when I get there, It is not far from the York, which will probably be my starting point.

Watch this space

Willy1234

11Bravo

11-10-05, 15:28

But above all, to have a damn good time doing it.

I cannot find any reference to my hotel, the Al SondosThe biggest advantage you have is having the right attitude. The whole point is to have fun. Besides, as I've said, even a bad experience produces a good story.

I'm not familiar with the named hotel, but, then again, I'm not that familiar with hotels.

4) would you advice getting a local lawyer to sort out my affairs? Option 4 would definitely be my choice. Maybe there's a lawyer here, but I'd be VERY reluctant to base IMPORTANT decisions on ANY forum's advice. The ass you save just might be your own.

Not a hard equation even for us village idiots.No village idiots that I can spot.
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Look forward to some new "eyes" on the scene, regardless of report style.

Piper1

11-10-05, 16:52

Back home after a boring 10 days away. Thanks Bravo for highlighting my off-topic posts with your links (which I have just looked at) - explains the large number of PMs asking me about swinger's action. Kidding - my fault I know.

Thanks also Sporadic - now I'm getting PMs from guys identifying themselves as engineers before asking for info. ;) Will answer the PMs next few days, guys. Have to find my drilling reports first.

Fawie - it's 90% certain you would be arrested at the airport if you don't clear things first. At least write to the respective authorities first to see how you can clear things up. Like Bravo says - find a good local lawyer. Keep in mind financial penalties that accrued while you were gone - could double the debt.

Piper1

11-10-05, 16:54

I had a nice enough farewell session with a beautiful young "Indian" gal, an hour before departing The Hague for Dubai last night. (Wait - the post is actually relevant).

Turned out she wasn't Indian, but Bulgarian. She sure as hell looked like one of those beautiful dancing girls in the Bollywood movies. I wasn't overly horny - just doing the "tourist" looking around, but when I saw her, I couldn't resist (see "Netherlands/The Hague" thread for session report).

At first, she gave standard window-girl service, but she became much more enthusiastic during the session when I mentioned I was about to fly home to Dubai. After I finished to her porn-star theatrics, she mentioned she wanted to come to Dubai for a holiday, and asked for lots of info about the place, and for my email address.

The "Dubai effect" also happened with a couple of the non-working gals I went out with during my trip to Amsterdam. Makes a guy attractive.

And I thought they liked me for my mind. ;)

Dubai seems to be the hot city of the moment, and I don't mean the weather.

Good to be back.

Piper

Viper10

11-10-05, 17:12

2) how could I pay the banks the cash I owed them (I've got the cash now but am scared they will decide to persue me for not paying regradless of wether I wanted to make amends or not)

3) how do I know that I would not be arrested on arrival, if I managed to clear my debt before entering.

4) would you advice getting a local lawyer to sort out my affairs?

Any help any of you might be able to give in terms of advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys

F

Before you enter the country, communicate with a lawyer about what happened and that you want to clear up matters. He will then check records and see if there is anything against you. You should be able to clear up all your debts and legal work before you arrive.
Viper

Halloerstmal

11-10-05, 17:52

Cheers,

Just wanted to contribute the experiences I made in this hotel.

First of all: it is definitively girl friendly.

Action: there is a pub/disco in the hotel with lots of action. Many chinese and CIS girls, but also locals.

I went in on Saturday evening, around 23:00. The thing was crowded, maybe 70% girls. Had a drink and after 5 mins a chinese girl started taling to me. I am not into asians, so I told her to go away. She refused.

Her english was pretty weird, so I had a hard time understanding her. After many "I lika you"s and "you handasome boy" it told her I wouldn`t pay. Surpringsingly she accepted. So we went to the room got undressed and she started to give me a bbbj. Not too bad I thought until she suddenly stopped and , of course, asked for money. Since there was certainly not much blood left in my brain I accepted after some tough negotiations and gave her 30 Eur. (120 DHS). She was not very happy but accepted because "business nota gooda today".

Nevertheless, her performance was really good and she stayed at least 2 hours. Will definitively come back and check out the local girls.

HectorG

11-10-05, 23:10

Hello gang. I managed a short 24-hour trip in Dubai on Tuesday. I had been planning on spending a few days but alas work conflicts destroyed my plans. My apologies to those of you I had PMd with plans to meet, esp. the great lord Piper.

I landed in Dubai at 6am, somebody's idea of a joke in our travel office. Took a cab to the Ramada Bur Dubai and of course, no room available until 11am. So I took a brief nap on the lobby couch, had some breakfast, finally got my room and crashed. By 2pm I was finally awake and hoping I could make it to TGIT in time. I decided to walk. Stupid me, I forgot how far it was (maybe 20-25 minutes, but it was sweltering hot). By the time I got to TGIT, I was drenched in sweat and it was now 2:40. But the place was packed, about 90% Chinese, and the rest divided between CIS and 1 or 2 Africans.

I immediately spotted a beautiful petite blonde in a little black dress, the only girl wearing an outfit that you would not be embarrased to walk into the hotel lobby with her on your arm. But she was sitting at a table with a man who was easily 3 times her age. I looked around and around, had a beer (or 3) and struck up conversation with a lovely Chinese lady (got her number, offered a twosome but not today). Finally the old guy leaves the bar so I corner the little petite blonde. And she looks at me, rolls her eyes, and then turns away. I never understand this CIS attitude. Before that, I would have paid her 1,000dhs just to snog she was so cute, but her attitude was a complete turnoff that I just thanked her and walked away. It's now 3:20 and my backup had also left so now I'm frantic. Finally settled on an average redhead Uzbek girl with a flat belly. 300dhs ST. Decent BJ. Semi-GFE. So-so overall experience.

Had dinner.

9pm: Decided to try Jockeys at Panorama, my first time there. Walked in and it was a huge "sausage party" (95% men). I ordered a beer and decided to give it a chance. Within 15 minutes, about 12 WG walked in. But none were to my liking, all about 40-year-old Chinese women. And no offense to the older punters, but every bloke in the bar was at least 50. I felt so uncomfortable that I just left my half-drunken beer on the bar and walked out.

9:20: Walked across the street back to the Ramada to check out Rumors. It wasn't supposed to open until 9 but the doors were already open. Plus I had a free drink coupon from the front desk. Walked in. Two WG in the corner and 4 guys. Had my free drink and walked out.

10:00: Ok no more fucking around. Taxi driver, take me to the palace: Cyclone. I get there and absolutely no line. Paid my hefty entry fee and sat at the bar and I immediately made eye contact with a tall CIS girl with LONG hair that came down past her waist. Cute boobs. Decent face. Her name is Hanya and she's from Uzbekistan (aren't they all?). I motioned for her to come to my side of the bar and she asked me to buy her a drink. Mistake: I said yes. She ordered a Long Island Ice tea, which was twice as much as my overpriced beer. Had our drinks and actually I was quite taken with her. Nice attitude. We settle on 500ST. Get back to the hotel, no problem we just walked in to the lobby (after midnight, the Ramada security girls start hassling girls and demanding passports. more on that later). Back at the hotel room, I had sobered up and the lights were on and suddely Uzbeck girl suddely didn't look so great from the neck-up. She said she was 25 but she was probably more like 35 and she had a C-section scar. But she was actually quite pleasant and her attitude went a long way. Good sex and she really got into DATY. Big points for effort.

1am: I'm still wide awake after having slept all day. So I decide to go BACK out again. So I walked into Rumors again.

1:05am: Walked out of Rumors

1:15am: Arrived at Rockafellas. I was actually carded about my age. Probably the first time in 5 year I've been carded. Thanks guys. Now I like Rockafellas. The music was fantastic. The first band were three African American chaps who were quite good. I was paying more attention to the band than the WG. During the intermission I walked around but didn't see much that was interesting. But about 2am a new band came on and WOW. Three beautiful Russian girls (can you tell I have a thing for CIS?) all wearing matching white tennis outfits and little hats, their hair in pigtails. I fell in love with the blonde. I no longer carred for WG. I just wanted to meet the blonde. But after their set, two beefy bouncers came in and wisked the girls out of the room and away from drunken horny blokes standing there with their tongues on the floor including yours truly.

2:30: Lights come on and I leave Rockafellas but just out of curiousity I decide to wander over to the York. Surprised it was still open and nobody charged me anything at this late stage. Now with apologies to Piper and the gang, I've never been a big fan of the York, mainly because my experience has been of being hounded by pushy Asian girls. I was not disappointed. I was immediately shadowed by a little asian girl who started out at 750dhs but within 3 minutes she was offering herself up for 200Dhs LT! But I could not get past the "cling factor". I was really in the mood for a three-some. I struck up a conversation with abeautiful Ethiopean girl who looked like a shorter Beyonce. But she had a snooty attitude so I brushed her off (she later came back and offered lower price but she blew it). I finally settled on two cute Ethiopians who agreed to ST, 300dhs each. Ok great.

3:15 am: We get to the hotel (we take a cab, they are too lazy to walk. In fact, I've found that most people in Dubai seem too lazy to walk more than 1 block). Walk into the hotel and one of the girls DID NOT HAVE HER PASSPORT. Big problem no. If you were in the lobby at 3am Wendesday morning and saw a grown man begging and pleading with the security guard to please let him pass to shag these beautiful ebony creatures, that was me. He wouldn't budge even when I pulled out a bribe. "no problem," says stupid girl who forgot her passport. "We have place." Uh oh. I know I'm thinking with my dick now and I'm breaking one of the Dubai Forum rules but I say OK. STUPID STUPDI STUPID.

3:30 we get to their shabby flat, which is somewhere past the Cyclone and we walk into a pretty drab apartment building. The girls strip and things seem to be going well. They start rubbing each other's tits and I'm thinking ok this isn't so bad. One girl puts on the rubber and I start doing one girl mish and th eother is playing with her self. Then the other girl is begging for it too so I leave girl one, but instead of hanging around for the action, she WALKS AWAY and goes into the bathroom and gets on her mobile phone! I keep playing with girl 2 but now girl 2 is saying "you finish yet?". That did it. I was now completely turned off. Couldn't finish and then the girls said "You go now and take taxi from corner." BAD BAD BAD experience. If you have your own place, never never NEVER go to the place of a girl you don't know.

4am: Get to hotel, hang my head in shame past the security guard from earlier, crash, sleep until noon the next day. Nearly missed my flight. Recalled all my mistakes now to repeat when I return to Dubai in a few weeks.

The end

Fawie

11-11-05, 03:23

Hiya mate,

Yes I imagined so but am counting on being able to use the tact that they would rather get something back then nothing, I am planning on getting a lawyer though as that seems to be the most common advise given see what he says.

Guys thanks for your advice on this matter I hope to be able to add to this thread with some relevent posts if I can back to my shangrila.

If not if any of you are ever over in the south east of england, let me know and I will give you a ticket to travel the ho train here!

Happy mongering

F

Back home after a boring 10 days away. Thanks Bravo for highlighting my off-topic posts with your links (which I have now read) - explains the large number of PMs asking me about swinger's action. Kidding - my fault I know.

Thanks also Sporadic - now I'm getting PMs from guys identifying themselves as engineers before asking for info. ; ) Will answer the PMs next few days, guys. Have to find my drilling reports first.

Fawie - it's 90% certain you would be arrested at the airport if you don't clear things first. At least write to the respective authorities first to see how you can clear things up. Like Bravo says - find a good local lawyer. Keep in mind financial penalties that accrued while you were gone - could double the debt.

Deep Wet

11-11-05, 08:32

Big Bob

Great report but small mistakes. I agree you should not have gone at girl's place. They took you for a ride. Next time be careful.

There are some Indian girls available in Dubai. In case you know some, pls let me know.

Bye

Punter 101

11-11-05, 13:02

From today's Gulf News"

Authorities crack down on streetwalkers
Dubai | By Sunita Menon, Staff Reporter | 11/11/2005

Despite the unrelenting efforts of authorities to fight the strange scenario of streetwalkers plying their illegal trade on the streets of Dubai, these women continue to pose a serious health risk since they do not have to undergo medical checks, doctors and health officials warn.

As the UAE grows rapidly into a modern state, economically and socially, experts say, it is natural to expect the appearance of various types of businesses such as the illegal flesh trade the oldest profession in the world.

Rangarajan/Gulf News

In addition to their violation of the law, the scene of women offering their illegal services on the streets is worrisome to doctors and health officials.

However, virtually everyone involved in this activity is here on a visit visa.

The women thus are not registered with the health authorities and have no access to a health card.

"This immoral activity doesn't represent a phen-omenon in Dubai as it does in other countries. Nevertheless, we have special teams to combat it.

"Our efforts are tireless but we also need the public cooperation to eradicate it," said Brigadier Khamis Mattar Al Mazeina, head of the Dubai Police Criminal Investigation Department (CID).

These illegal activities are alien to the UAE's culture and traditions and the police cannot tolerate their existence, he said.

Everyone who spoke to Gulf News on this issue did so on a guarantee of anonymity.

A senior Ministry of Health official declined to discuss the issue.

He told Gulf News that the topic is considered sensitive because of the UAE's cultural and social mores.

Asked if prostitutes are required to undergo medical check-ups, the official said: "That is a big question and a difficult one to answer. This job is not licenced."

Doctors in private clinics said that cases of HIV/Aids, tuberculosis and sexually transmitted diseases (STD) are immediately reported to the Ministry of Health.

"It is mandatory for us to report to the ministry. The UAE has very strict regulations on it," said a doctor.

Under the regulations, anyone found carrying STDs is deported and prohibited from returning.

"In nine years of practice I have not come across any such cases. The prostitutes are well aware of the regulations.

"They would prefer to go back to their country and get themselves treated," said another doctor.

An official from the Department of Health and Medical Services in Dubai (DOHMS) said that HIV and gonorrhea are the most common diseases in women who are involved in this age-old profession.

He said: "Visit visas, no check-ups and so these prostitutes pose dangers. We detect them with HIV when they are arrested and a medical check is carried out on them."

A top Dubai Naturalisation and Residency Department official yesterday told Gulf News that prostitutes come to the UAE as tourists on visit visas provided by tourist agencies.

The Dubai Department of Tourism and Commerce Marketing said that its job is to regulate the tour operators.

A DTCM spokesperson said: "The department makes sure that all tour operators are licenced. They function legally.

"We also look into complaints registered against the tour operators," said the DTCM spokesperson.

Prostitutes who spoke to Gulf News said they "would appreciate" regular health check-ups.

They said they only go to health clinics when they have symptoms of STD. Laura, 22, from Romania, came to the UAE on a visit visa.

"This is my first visit to the UAE. My friend gave me a visa.

"She is working here. She is also doing the same job," said Laura.

Veronica, 28, a Bulgarian, said she too came to the UAE on a visit visa.

Asked if she opts for safe sex, she said: "At times. It all depends on what the clients prefer."

Echoing what Veronica said, April, 29, another Bulgarian said she often suffers from skin irritation and has it treated in a clinic in Bur Dubai.

"Yes, I agree there are health risks, but then is anyone bothered about it?" asked Nabila from Zambia, a 31-year-old.

Piper1

11-11-05, 14:21

While I was out I saw one woman being propositioned. She did not seem to be a SW and gave the guy short shift.

This happens quite often. When I lived next to Golden Sands, Miss Wildcat (and I'm sure almost any young woman) couldn't walk 5 minutes to the grocery store without being hassled, by pedestrian guys or slow cruising cars, often with Saudi number plates. Day or night. (On the other hand, I couldn't walk 5 minutes without being "hassled" by a Chinese girl. But I didn't mind too much. ;) )

Sometimes, the propositioners can be police looking to entrap a girl. During Ramadan, 1700 WG's were arrested, to be deported (no amnesties anymore, and the "price of freedom" has risen to unaffordable amounts). One WG I know quite well was propositioned outside Imperial Suites last week, then taken to the cells.

Piper1

11-11-05, 14:32

Big Bob
... There are some Indian girls available in Dubai. In case you know some, pls let me know.
Bye
Hey Deep Wet, what started off sounding like an offer of info, quickly turned to the opposite. Ah well. ;)

By the way - the reports you have posted on sexual techniques are well-written, if not technical. They read like they are from the Kama Sutra. Hmmm. Did you post them on the other websites in which they appear? Hmmm hmmm.

And yes, there are some Indian girls available in Dubai, but for various reasons, they play much more low key. Also, many in the "houses" are essentially prisoners, lured here with false promises, then kept in houses until they can escape (if lucky).

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Big Bob - excellent report! You did damn well for a 24 hour stop in Dubai. Your report really gave the flavor of what a mongering day/night can be like in Dubai for visitors (and even for residents like myself. I had a very similar night a few months ago - in fact, I didn't even manage to get laid by the end of the night). Still, good fun trying - all part of the adventure. (By the way, without a doubt, you could have had the two African girls for 300 total at that time of night). One tip - never let on you're passing through town. You have just arrived on a three-year contract.

As for York - no offence taken - it used to be an old favorite haunt, but the whole scene has changed to mostly African and Chinese with only a smattering of my preference - CIS girls (they know how to party!) I prefer Rockafellas at Regal for the CIS girls, but the place gets incredibly crowded with the sausage brigade after midnight.

cheers and looking forward to your next visit and post.

Piper

Piper1

11-11-05, 17:44

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I told her I wouldn`t pay. Surprisingly she accepted. So we went to the room got undressed and she started to give me a bbbj. Not too bad I thought until she suddenly stopped and, of course, asked for money.

I could see that coming! ;)

Steve Dubai

11-11-05, 20:31

Cheers,

Just wanted to contribute the experiences I made in this hotel.

Which Metropolitan Hotel are you referring to? - there are 3 that I know of

11Bravo

11-12-05, 13:21

24 hours in Dubai
I agree with Piper; VERY entertaining FR, very picturesque. Had me smiling, eager to read what would happen next.

I landed in Dubai at 6am ... finally got my room and crashed. By 2pm I was finally awake and hoping I could make it to TGIT in time.Pointer for newbies: DON'T let that LATE night or EARLY morning arrival time get you down. Hit the hotel, get some sleep (lobby couch or room), then, early afternoon... that's what TGIT IS for. Action starts about 1:30 by 3:00, wg's looking to make a last deal by 3:30, frenzy time by 3:45, mass exodus. Given the LE presence, girls not eager to linger outside for a last minute deal. SOME action will move to Admiral Plaza, up the street

And she looks at me, rolls her eyes, and then turns away. I never understand this CIS attitude. Before that, I would have paid her 1,000dhs just to snog she was so cute, but her attitude was a complete turnoff that I just thanked her and walked away.Newbies, take heed. As Big Bob II says, she did him a favor! Don't get upset, just go look for the now top-of-the-list candidate.

9pm: Decided to try Jockeys at Panorama, my first time there. Walked in and it was a huge "sausage party" (95% men). I ordered a beer and decided to give it a chance. Within 15 minutes, about 12 WG walked in. But none were to my liking, all about 40-year-old Chinese women. And no offense to the older punters, but every bloke in the bar was at least 50.Now, I fit right in, as far as age goes ;). As often said, Jockeys very hit/miss. Rarely are there a lot of wg's; normally males do outnumber females. But a number just there to drink, so odds are not that bad IF you can find someone to your liking. Most of the resident girls, I give a pass on. But you can, occasionally, find someone passing through, especially for that early evening ST. I find Jockeys a good place to meet with a buddy as it is small and easy to find one another (especially if you're trying to hook up 1st time).

Cyclone. ... Paid my hefty entry fee ... and she asked me to buy her a drink. Mistake: I said yes. She ordered a Long Island Ice tea, which was twice as much as my overpriced beer. What did Cyclone gouge you for on the entrance fee? (some debate elsewhere about entrance fees)

For me, unless I know the girl, I always decline the "buy me drink" request. That's a warning flag for me. Certainly it might get her a drink (along the lines of "it never hurts to ask"), but wg's also use it to gauge the (no disrespect) "sucker" factor. And once turned down for a drink (but not business), I myself use it to gauge their "seriousness" factor about doing some business with me; do they stick around or move on?

(we take a cab, they are too lazy to walk. In fact, I've found that most people in Dubai seem too lazy to walk more than 1 block). True. However, for the wg's, they do like to minimize their "steet" time, especially in certain areas, that being one of them (outside York, especially street towards Ramada; the 2 parking lots are/were prime areas for street action). Other area is around Astoria. These days, a lot will want to QUICKLY grab a cab.

I'll dogpile: yes, (newbies, note), NOT a good idea to give up the home court advantage. You just gave those 2 a free ride home. Again, for me, when she says, "my place, pay in advance", the alarm bells go off. Unless she's REALLY worth the risk, time to either look elsewhere, or wait for another day.

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Authorities crack down on streetwalkers
"Our efforts are tireless but we also need the public cooperation to eradicate it," ...

These illegal activities are alien to the UAE's culture and traditions and the police cannot tolerate their existence, he said.

He told Gulf News that the topic is considered sensitive because of the UAE's cultural and social mores.Points to note: As I said above, there are reasons why girls want to "get away quick" from the various venues. There was a sidebar in the newspaper about how the police were requesting the public's help, as in "whenever we get a complaint, we immediately investigate..." ... so, keep repeating myself, but discreet IS the watchword. Just takes one irked civilian... and EVERYONE has mobiles... MY OPINION: it's VERY unusual to see a story like this in the newspaper (for the reason above), so when one does appear... take heed.

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Hey Deep Wet, what started off sounding like an offer of info, quickly turned to the opposite. Ah well.LOL. You could SEE that coming.

HectorG

11-12-05, 20:22

Piper1

11-12-05, 20:26

Thanks gentlemen. I appreciate the constructive criticism which I will put to use on my next visit in two weeks, which I understand will be the height of some major convention (Index Show?). The Ramada went and raised their rates on me by 200dhs specifically because of the convention! Does this mean a lot more competition at the major venues like Cyclone?
Hi Bob - I think GETEX is on in Abu Dhabi - maybe they need the extra accommodations in Dubai? Not sure. Don't worry, there's always more than enough young ladies to keep you company. You might just need to get in early for the best ones.

cheers

Piper

Tom2004

11-12-05, 23:00

Thanks gentlemen. I appreciate the constructive criticism which I will put to use on my next visit in two weeks, which I understand will be the height of some major convention (Index Show?). The Ramada went and raised their rates on me by 200dhs specifically because of the convention! Does this mean a lot more competition at the major venues like Cyclone?

The next show comming to Dubai is Dubai Airshow, and preliminary results do expect an outstanding number of visitors. I can speculate only, but as much as the hotels are preparing (by increasing rates), so do the WG too.

But from experience another risk is increasing: The planned LT suddenly converts to a ST.

So once again it will be worth to read and stick to all the valuable information contained in here.

Have fun,

tom

Tercar 66

11-13-05, 11:51

I have at times seen a lot of Chinese females hanging around in Ajman Beach hotel open Bar. Has any mongers checked out that scene?

11Bravo

11-13-05, 12:34

Will agree with Piper1 and Tom2004.

The a-listers especially understand all too well about the conventions. Not saying they'll raise their rates, but discounts will be few and far between. They figure the increase now will offset the dip in income due to the upcoming christmas holidays.

The well known venues will be more crowded, along with a lot of hotel bars (girls know where the business is). PERHAPS less gratis entries to some bars.

If you do see one you fancy, move fast. If you like her, so will others. As the old saying goes, "you snooze, you lose". You can get there early, or, get there later, and hope to catch her as she comes back from her first ST. Or, risky, get there late, and hope she's come back looking for 1 last ST/LT. But I wouldn't put much stock in the supply at 2:30am.

Not only true for the a-listers. The largesse will flow down, or, looking the other way, a number of wg's will "step up" in rank: that not quite a-lister will be as popular as a true a-lister off-peak.

As Tom2004 says, make sure your definition of LT matches hers. A number will use "until you fall asleep". Given the increase in demand of big spending punters (any marketer... and the buyers...), girls will be eager to get back for another chance at the "brass ring grab".

Simple math 1 ST + 1 ST >= 1 LT 1 ST + 1 LT > 1 LT
I'd be willing to bet that some of the Cyclone a-listers can pull off 3 ST's per night.

But, like Piper1 says, still any number of girls to go around. If, as Piper says, 1700 wg's were deported during Ramadan, and it didn't make a dent in the bar "level", then certainly there will be any number for you to select from. It's just that you MIGHT not get your 1st choice.

One nice thing about having regulars: while you don't get the benefits of reduced prices during slumps, you are protected from price increases during peak seasons.

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Off-topic: anyone get bit by the Sony music CD root-kit? I mean, what were they thinking? If that's a decision "blessed" by multi-million dollar execs, then, for sure, I'm underpaid: I make bonehead decisions for nothing.

Piper1

11-13-05, 12:51

Ever see that ad for underwear?: "One day you're gonna get caught with your pants down."

Today I was out with Miss Wildcat, and received a message from a "Nancy/Coco" saying she's been in China, but has returned and opened her "massage centre" again. I have no idea who she is. The only Nancy I know was well over 18 months ago (a cute regular in doubles for a few months), and I'm sure my number has changed since then. Anyone else get the message? If so, who is she?

Later, and only 30 seconds after I put Miss Wildcat in a cab, Mr. D called to see if we are still on for tomorrow's threesome with his hot Miss B.

One day I'm gonna get caught with my pants down - yikes!

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PS: Bravo - yep, I believe the source about 1700 gals rounded up (not all deported yet - many still in detention). And yes, I'm starting to think that finding a regular would be a good idea (for a while at least).

Tom Sorenson

11-13-05, 13:44

Today I was out with Miss Wildcat, and received a message from a "Nancy/Coco" saying she's been in China, but has returned and opened her "massage centre" again. I have no idea who she is. The only Nancy I know was well over 18 months ago (a cute regular in doubles for a few months), and I'm sure my number has changed since then. Anyone else get the message? If so, who is she?

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I got the same message last week. I called and from what I could figure, it was a MP I visited about a year ago - one time.

Tom Sorenson

11-13-05, 13:56

A whlie back there were a few reports about hooking up with a girl who has been back home for a while and just got back. If you had good relationshiop with her and are the first to see her - outstanding time is possible.

Last Thursday, just by coinicidence, one of my chinese regulars who had been home for the past few months, got back just on a day when I was free for some time in the morning to see her. - WOW - An hour and a half of some of the most intense sex I have ever had. I only wish I could have stayed longer, but not possible.

Piper1

11-13-05, 14:33

I got the same message last week. I called and from what I could figure, it was a MP I visited about a year ago - one time.
I've only visited an MP once, from memory - next to Seaview hotel. It was more than three years ago, never to return. But I did call one in Jumeira a few months back. May be they logged my number.

Sporadic

11-14-05, 00:26

Rastaman:

Wow, I can hardly think of anything more exciting than "Donald Trump, Martha Stewart and Mariah Carey" showing up for a "Puffy/Pdiddy/Daddy/Diddy birthday party.

Just what Dubai needs, more mindless glitz and flash. Classy, very classy.

I am sure it will really promote civic pride in the Bangladeshi labour force to know they are "hosting" such an event.

I guess it will be a small respite for the WG´s as the entire police force will be out protecting the VVIP´s.

I give up, first MJ using the ladies toilet, now the "haircut, jailbird and birdbrain" will be in town. I can hardly wait. Diddy I can deal with, smart operator, but would any other convicted felon get a visa? Go Martha!

Sporadic

Piper1

11-14-05, 10:25

I give up, first MJ using the ladies toilet ...
It's okay - he was wearing traditional UAE female clothes. ;)

11Bravo

11-14-05, 15:10

Sean 'Diddy' Combs is flying 200 of his nearest and dearest to the kingdom of Dubai on Nov. 30 for a non-stop six-day bash to beat them all. Damn, guess I'd better go check my po box for my invite...

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Shady shelters
I enjoyed the news item about cleaning up the streetwalkers, as you put them (Gulf News, Online, November 11). I have witnessed scores of women running down the streets of Dubai, trying to evade capture from chasing policemen in cars and on horseback.
Are the authorities going to be doing something about the bars and clubs that house these women in their thousands and allow them to ply their trade?
From Mr A. McTavish
London, UKWhen I saw the heading "Shady shelters", I figured this to be another letter thanking the authorities for re-doing some bus-stops. Oops. When I see a letter like this published, which does hit at the crux of the matter, makes me wonder what the agenda is (of the paper). And I also wonder what this guy was doing to be in a position (time and location) to observe such pursuits?

For sure, the "A" stands for Asshole.

Piper1

11-15-05, 12:55

Wow - an amazing night last night with Mr. D and the hot Miss B - she was extra sizzling hot.

Unlike the first two sessions, I wasn't reserved or bushed. It took over 90 minutes in the killer traffic to get to their new palatial apartment, but it was worth it (besides, I left my car near my place and took a cab). By the time I arrived, I was relaxed and ready for a good time. Also, I was fully comfortable with D & B by now.

In fact, this time I felt comfortable playing with B without waiting for "cues" from either D or B, and initiated some interesting (well, I think so) activites. I got the sense they enjoyed me being more proactive and experimental than in our past sessions .

This time I won't post the "one-handed brigade" details, as Sporadic cheekily calls them (and I thought my posts were esoteric, high-brow erotica ;) ). I'll let the pictures tell the story when I post them in the next day or two. Some very nice pics on my camera this time - mostly of D and B. I eagerly await pics from D's camera. The tripod and remote multi-photo button made for some, ahem, interesting threesome shots.

I can say that Miss B. appreciated the little gifts I brought from Amsterdam. Judging by Mr D's wild and energetic performance, I can say that he appreciated them too. (But I had to occasionally ask them to stop being so romantic in their more tender moments). ;)

Got home at 12:30am to be interrogated for a few minutes by Miss Wildcat (with a twinkle in her eye) about "being with my girlfriend all night". I cheekily "admitted" it, but said I might also have been out for a drink with friends after a late finish at work. The scratch on the side of my chest was difficult to explain away. Her final test was whether I could perform. Luckily I'd anticipated this, and had kept some mojo aside, so I had another wild ... hey! - mind your own business! Anyway, all was forgiven, and a good night's sleep was had.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-16-05, 15:01

There are some Indian girls available in Dubai. In case you know some, pls let me know.Yes, this f*cking scum bag wants to sell the numbers to unsuspecting newbies...
example:408327
He's spammed a number of threads (NOW I understand, Piper1).

Have also heard from reliable sources that he posts others' works from other sites on this site as HIS OWN. Guess he's never heard of plagiarism.

So, there really ARE reasons WHY you are encouraged to vet punters BEFORE providing contacts.

Piper1

11-16-05, 15:20

Have also heard from reliable sources that he posts others' works from other sites on this site as HIS OWN.
Too true. I could name the sites, but I don't think Mr. J would appreciate it. Anyway, Deep Wet has received appropriate feedback from many members, wherever he spammed all over ISG (all offering to send him 50 bucks for his contacts, of course). I just sent mine - can't wait for the goodies!

Sporadic

11-16-05, 15:44

I liked the guy who offered to fax him the cash!

I am waiting patiently for the "Banned user list" to be updated.

Auaind

11-16-05, 17:14

Please post your full bank account details (bank, branch, account codes) and attach a scanned copy of your signature. I know some people in Nigeria who would be very interested in buying your list (among other things).

I shall endeavour to make this information available to them soonest so that they can wire the funds to you asap.

Au

Sporadic

11-16-05, 17:16

Do not forget to include the pin code of your debit card, and the ccv numbers and expiration date on all credit cards!

Ps. I presume others have availed themselves of the "report this post to a moderator" link. Just a suggestion for this A. McTavish clone.

Tony45

11-17-05, 14:25

[QUOTE=Piper1]
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Big Bob - excellent report! You did damn well for a 24 hour stop in Dubai. Your report really gave the flavor of what a mongering day/night can be like in Dubai for visitors (and even for residents like myself. I had a very similar night a few months ago - in fact, I didn't even manage to get laid by the end of the night).

and I thought I was the only one who didn't get laid. Had a bitter experience in Regal. Mostly CIS babes and was waiting for eternity. First could not make up my mind and later when the mind was made no quality left. Most of the good ones were taken away. Finally move to York during closing hours and picked up an African (her place) for 300 Ds LT and guess it was not my night. Her sister was there along with her boyfriend. Had a change of mind, but what the hell already paid her. Finished off quickly and left the place.

Guess I need to use a lot of tips from this forum and will be a bit smarter the next time I monger.

Keep up the good work guys, it definitely help us newbies.

Cheers and have fun,

Tony

Piper1

11-17-05, 19:37

York during closing hours ...picked up an African (her place) for 300 Ds LT and guess it was not my night. Her sister was there along with her boyfriend. Had a change of mind, but what the hell already paid her. Finished off quickly and left the place.

Tony - don't you hate that! The same happened to me one night (not a brother, but another customer was there). The gal had told me LT at her place, but once we got there, she wanted me to wait for the room to become available. After waiting 30 minutes, I changed my mind, as the arrangement wasn't as described. I asked for my money back, saying I had to go, and surprisingly, she smiled an apology, gave the cash, unlocked the door, and I left.

A week later, I was at Scarletts Club with a (supposedly) non-monger mate, and he tried picking her up, thinking she was non-P4P. I was watching from nearby and called him on his phone to let him know she was a working gal. He thanked me for the warning and excused himself. She had seen me, and told my mate I was at her place the previous week!

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-18-05, 18:01

First could not make up my mind and later when the mind was made no quality left. Most of the good ones were taken away.We've all done it; stunned by the selection. However, as a good friend once told me when I had that "kid in a candy store" look: There is NO BEST one. Pick one that you think you'll enjoy, then go and enjoy. Don't try double guessing yourself. There is ALWAYS tomorrow."

I asked for my money back, saying I had to go, and surprisingly, she smiled an apology, gave the cash, unlocked the door, and I left.Let's just say that's VERY unusual. Obviously, it will happen, but I would NOT count on it. Once you've handed the money over, it's GONE. Consider it a gift if you get it back.

11Bravo

11-18-05, 18:04

Honesty

Thursday, obviously, Miss T on the mound. This morning, Friday, we get up late. While she's still in the bathroom, I'm grabbing some OJ out of the fridge, and, while I think about it, pull her usual fee, 500, from my wallet, plus the 30 dhs (2 10's, 2 5's) reimbursement for the taxi. Put it in her open purse, then go to check my e-mail.

She's in the living room, putting on her makeup, ready to go directly to the afternoon's office. I finish my e-mail check, back out to the living room, where she says, "You give money". I'm thinking, "damn, how could she miss it?" So I say, "Yes, put in purse." "No, no, too much money."

I'm baffled, throw up my hands. She pulls money from her purse. She's got 2 groups; yes, there's my 500, the 2 10's, 2 5's, plus another group of assorted 10's and 5's. She says, "Too much money." I'm baffled (of course, EVERYONE reading this knows what's happened). In my bemused state, only thing I can think of is that last week, gave her a bit extra for a taxi as she had to go out to Sharajh airport to meet an arriving GF. So I say, "yes, last week, gave more for airport; today give same as always"

She's shaking her head, "No, too much money. You give 40." Put on my glasses; yes, I do hate those 20 dhs notes. IF you're going to distinguish your money by color, then make the notes DIFFERENT; the 20 is just too close to the 10. She handed back the 2 5's, saying, "Not give too much money".

Granted, only 10 dhs. I'd NEVER have missed it. But she knew it was not what I'd intended, so gave it back. Now that's TRUE honesty.

Piper1

11-18-05, 18:16

We've all done it; stunned by the selection. ... Don't try double guessing yourself. There is ALWAYS tomorrow."
And the day after, and the day after , and ... ;)

Let's just say that's VERY unusual. Obviously, it will happen, but I would NOT count on it. Once you've handed the money over, it's GONE. Consider it a gift if you get it back.
I woudn't count on it either. I think she was semi-pro and fairly new. She was actually quite shy and friendly, but a bit nervous.

Piper1

11-18-05, 18:22

Honesty

yes, I do hate those 20 dhs notes. IF you're going to distinguish your money by color, then make the notes DIFFERENT; the 20 is just too close to the 10. Granted, only 10 dhs. I'd NEVER have missed it. But she knew it was not what I'd intended, so gave it back. Now that's TRUE honesty.
I have had many a WG do similar (I either gave to much money due to color-blindness, heineken-blindness, or both). Most WGs are actually honest. But it also helps if they realize you are not just passing through town.

Once I gave a cabbie a 500 note, thinking it was a smaller note. I said keep the change and left the cab. He ran after me and told me my mistake. Now *that's* honesty.

11Bravo

11-18-05, 18:26

I woudn't count on it either.Yes, you and I understand. I just didn't want a lot of newbie posts of the sort, "But she wouldn't give me my money back."

To repeat: Once you give the girl money, consider it gone. After all, it is hers NOW. If things don't work out, and you get any back, consider it a gift.

And don't go reporting her to the police as some stupid sod did last year; guess who got arrested?

Most WGs are actually honest.

He ran after me and told me my mistake. Now *that's* honesty.Agreed, and agreed.

Piper1

11-18-05, 23:44

Yes, you and I understand. I just didn't want a lot of newbie posts of the sort, "But she wouldn't give me my money back."
Also agreed. I wouldn't want to set a bad example for newbies. Reminds me of the old debate about pay before or pay after, which to me is usually not an issue. Luckily, paying up front has rarely caused me problems (only once, from memory).

Much of this "luck" comes down to being a known entity (as opposed to being new on the scene). Many of the girls I have taken home knew me or had seen me around (e.g. at York when I was a regular there) before I had even spoken to them, so they already knew I was regular on the Dubai scene. Many of them didn't even ask for the money up front (word gets around who treats them well).

At one stage a few years ago I had difficulty accessing my main bank account for nearly two weeks, and of course, the gals don't take mastercard or visacard. I took home a regular for all-nighters five times with no payment at all, to be paid when the bank problem was resolved. Once it was, I gave her the 1500DH. This was a beautiful Eritrean (half-Italian) girl. (Even the African girls can be trusting - I think they get a bad rap due to an overly mercenary minority).

cheers

Piper

Tony45

11-19-05, 11:00

We've all done it; stunned by the selection. However, as a good friend once told me when I had that "kid in a candy store" look: There is NO BEST one. Pick one that you think you'll enjoy, then go and enjoy. Don't try double guessing yourself. There is ALWAYS tomorrow."

Yes indeed I learnt my lesson that day.

Let's just say that's VERY unusual. Obviously, it will happen, but I would NOT count on it. Once you've handed the money over, it's GONE. Consider it a gift if you get it back.Hey Piper,

You were very lucky indeed to get your money back. Once I hooked a WG on the street. She asked for advance which I sincerely paid and she took the cab while I followed. After couple of blocks, I lost the cab and gave up the trail. I came back to the place from where I had picked her up. She refused to come again and when I asked for my money back, I was politely asked to F.O. Another lesson learnt that day. NO Advances!

Piper1

11-19-05, 17:04

I sincerely paid and she took the cab while I followed. After couple of blocks, I lost the cab and gave up the trail
Tony,

Now that was beyond a newbie mistake. Would've saved you a lot of time if you had just handed her the money, waved goodbye and gone home for a wan... er, sleep.

And why did you have to remind me about the tranny you were advertising in the photos section several months back? I think a few of us have seen him/her around town recently. Could it be one and the same? Nah, surely not.

11Bravo

11-21-05, 23:48

No joy in Mudville

1. Seaview: 9:45 - 11:00.
Deciding on a mid-week outing, arrived Seaview just before 10. Barcrawler already there; Ever Ready appeared later.

In several YEARS, have never seen it that sparse for wg's. Many guys, but only a handful of wg's. One fun chinese who I know (in the biblical sense), but not really in the mood for her. Looking for Miss Skirt, the midweek pull from 2 week's ago. No luck. There was NO one that I was interested in. NOT ONE.

Outside, call Miss Skirt. Rang, no answer. Tried another on my to-do list (BC: either Miss Smiles from Cyclone awhile back, OR 1 of the dynamic duo from our trip to York; don't know which; common name). This time an answer, but she was NOT the name I had (i.e. phone passed on to another girl for whatever reason). Deleted the number.

Strike 1.

2. York: 11:00 - 12:00
Hadn't been there in quite awhile. Crowded, number of guys, certainly wg's present, but where was the QUALITY?

Neither of the dynamic duo around. Some familiar faces (long time TGIT afternoon resident said hi; I thought she'd been deported, but no, wrong info; or at least she's back; not the best looker, but ALWAYS cheerful with a smile). Spotted 1 nicely displayed rack, but quickly lost in the crowd. Another, maybe another, but lost track, or, if I did see them again, NOT a complete package.

Again, nothing really of interest. Too many guys; too few quality girls. Not so many chinese, some african, some CIS. Nothing to even make me want to query price.

Strike 2.

3. Cyclone: 12:00 - 1:00
Leaving York, intending on heading home, MAYBE stopping at Rattlesnake, Metropolitian Hotel. My cheap phone gave me a missed call - from Miss Skirt (won't receive inside anywhere). Considering what I wanted to do; just then, phone rang. Miss Skirt. Asked her where she was - Cyclone. Whoa, that's a BIG step up: Seaview to Cyclone in 2 weeks.

OK, what the hell. Off to Cyclone. Thought about just having her come outside (to see what kind of gift wrapping she had), but, it's only money, so, inside I went (75 dhs, weeknight).

Cyclone heaving: you could just feel the money; airshow in town. Knew it would not be good news. LOT of guys, certainly wg's around: chinese, CIS, no african. But definitely a seller's market.

Some familiar faces; some new. Miss Skirt spotted me, came over. Damn; in common wrapping: jeans and a top. Just not the cachet of the previous outfit. Cute face, cuter than I remembered, but... no fantasy tonight, passed. Her english has improved; she did understand why I was passing. Asked her why the venue change? Duh - "no good customers at Seaview."

Cute face chinese, small rack, nice strapless cocktail dress stopped for a job interview. Claimed to be from Taiwan (I think PRC, but I'm a cynic). Out of curiosity, asked price. She asked all night? I said yes, she said something, in DOLLARS, I did not understand (I'm thinking those Taiwanese should speak better english than the PRC's...) But she was resourceful, pulling out her mobile so she could show me the price: 300 (that's DOLLARS). Sorry, but I laughed. She quickly re-keyed; now 200. She was cute, but... easily passed, saying "No thank you". She moved off, definitively.

Another cute Taiwanese stopped by (same style look, nicely dressed, cute face, small frame), but before I could ask her price, she either spotted someone better, or didn't like my deodorant; she quickly departed.

Slightly older chinese (from Bejing) swaying to the music, skin tight pants/top (not leopard skin, but that style). Bare midriff, nice tan. Putting on a nice show, enticing. Again, curious, stopped to ask price: 200 DOLLARS (WHAT'S WITH ALL THE DOLLAR QUOTES; you know convention in town). Although I mentioned LT, got the impression we might not agree on what that consisted of (just an IMPRESSION). For being here 3 days, her english quite good (like I say, I'm a cynic).

Another chinese stopped by; didn't recognize her, but turned out to be my last pull from Cyclone (maybe a month ago?) Not bad, cute, reasonable rack, but... my short term memory still registered the cbj. Trying to make conversation, mentioned that I thought it was "good business for her tonight". When she didn't understand, said that "there were many customers for her". Ooops. Seems like I stepped on some toes; she was off like a shot. I really didn't mean to offend her, but obviously taken in a way I hadn't intended.

Saw my barometer disappearing out the door at 1 (my GUESS, 2nd ST), hearing her mention that her place was close by.

All in all, a selection in Cyclone, and, being Cyclone, there WERE possibilities. But nothing to really make me want to pay sticker price.

Not saying the LE removals impacting the scene, or the wg's trepidation at going out having a REAL effect. BUT, it's been a LONG time since I've wanted to pull, but didn't find anyone I really fancied.

Strike 3; home alone.

Oh well. Lucky for me, weekend pitching staff on-tap. NEXT time, will have to go to the bullpen (phone) sooner, to either verify or purge some collected numbers.

My recommendation: these days, if you see a cute one, lasso her quickly. Right now, seller's market.

Piper1

11-22-05, 00:20

Geez Bravo - what are you doing up at 3:00am? I thought I was the only nightowl here....

Sorry, but I have to disagree about "seller's market". I was out with a mate tonight (down your end of town), and as usual in Dubai, there was much more choice than either of us could handle. Dubai can never be a seller's market (if you want to look at it in market terms). We had a great time with a couple of gals. Might report after some sleep.

cheers

Piper

11Bravo

11-22-05, 08:43

You were very lucky indeed to get your money back. Once I hooked a WG on the street. She asked for advance which I sincerely paid and she took the cab while I followed. After couple of blocks, I lost the cab and gave up the trail. I came back to the place from where I had picked her up. She refused to come again and when I asked for my money back, I was politely asked to F.O. Another lesson learnt that day. NO Advances!Sorry, LOL.

Question in my mind was: why did you travel separately? THAT would have been a MAJOR tip-off that something was not right. Normally, she wouldn't let YOU out of HER sight.

And pay in advance implies "at the final destination" (your place/her place), NOT BEFORE leaving where you met her. Not in the bar, not on the street, etc., etc.

But, that's the way we learn.

Geez Bravo - what are you doing up at 3:00am...and as usual in Dubai, there was much more choice than either of us could handle. Maybe that was my problem - I went home just past 1 (prime time). :) Didn't wait around till closing time. :( As for my post time: made the mistake of checking company e-mail before heading to bed.

For me, there weren't a lot around; NOT at Seaview, not really at York. Certainly Cyclone was crowded and there were selections; however, being Cyclone, it was top $. The four (1 Seaview, 1 York, 2 Cyclone) I did know were all cute and certainly pullable, but, just something that made me less interested LAST night. SHE, the one you just HAD to have, was NOT around, for me, last night.

Easy to see that, at least at 1am, the floor for a number of Cyclone girls was $200USD/700 dhs LT. That, to me, means business is good for THEM. For me, a seller's market is a combination of selection AND price.

As for my post time: made the mistake of checking e-mail before heading to bed.

Shift: Anyone notice that at a number of venues, as soon as you start talking with a girl, a waiter appears, asking you if you want to buy her a drink? For ME, that's a) new, and b) irritating. She's NOT my date; she's a POTENTIAL BUSINESS partner.

Piper1

11-22-05, 14:19

Lorenzo

11-22-05, 22:35

After reviewing the last few posts, I thought I'd share a rule I imposed on myself many years ago. I call it the Iron Law of Mongering. It's simply this: NO MONEY UNTIL YOU'RE IN THE ROOM--your hotel room, her room, a motel, whatever. Moreover, if I'm especially suspicious, I'll add another proviso: no money till she's naked. This prevents her from bolting out the door, etc. Following this simple rule can save you much frustration. Just my two cents worth.

Lorenzo

Willy1234

11-22-05, 23:13

Just found that I am forced to spend a night in a Bangkok hotel in a few weeks as part of my travels (compliments of Thai Airlines). Shucks. ;)

I posted a request for info on the Thai Travel thread, but a lot of you guys have been there. Will I be locked into the airport, or can I go out and play?Hi,

You can always get out of the airport. Some of the touts when you come out into the departure hall can arrange everything you woud like to do, but you will pay for it. Which hotel are you staying at?

Willy

1Ball

11-23-05, 09:44

just spent a week in DXB for the Big 5 show. I have been reading this board for a while, in preperation. But I didn't know the place was crawling with LBFMs, which are my downfall.
met a darling little philippina girl a couple of booths down the aisle, made friends, took her to dinner, and she spent the night, twice. then I hit on a cute Iranian woman, very international, lots of fun, same scenario. And last but not least, A crazy woman from Norway, tall, could stand to lose 10 kgs, (couldn't we all ). What a fun place. only problem was going into the smaller restaurants, and not having wine or beer with dinner. Not a single P4P, dinners only, but hell, one has to eat anyway, right !

Going back in January.......

Piper1

11-23-05, 10:25

The famous 1Ball sneaks into a P4P capital of the world, enjoys some juicy freebies, and slips out again, without contributing to the economy! Not fair 1Ball! (Kidding - glad you had a great time here).

cheers

Piper

BTW - there are inexpensive restaurants (serving drinks) around - but all in hotels.

just spent a week in DXB for the Big 5 show. I have been reading this board for a while, in preperation. But I didn't know the place was crawling with LBFMs, which are my downfall.
met a darling little philippina girl a couple of booths down the aisle, made friends, took her to dinner, and she spent the night, twice. then I hit on a cute Iranian woman, very international, lots of fun, same scenario. And last but not least, A crazy woman from Norway, tall, could stand to lose 10 kgs, (couldn't we all ). What a fun place. only problem was going into the smaller restaurants, and not having wine or beer with dinner. Not a single P4P, dinners only, but hell, one has to eat anyway, right !

Going back in January.......

1Ball

11-23-05, 10:46

The Famous 1ball ?
infamous, Piper, is what most of my good friends on the Thai board would call me. but thanks for the praise and the PM.

To answer your question here abt BKK, (there may be others with your predicament) TG will give you a room, most probably at the Amari airport hotel, which is connected by a bridge. You will clear customs, walk over and check in.

then it's a quick 20 - 30 minute ride to reach pussy heaven. If you've been to LOS, you know the drill, if not, just say NANA, sit back, relax, and prepare for a visual, and olfactory experience like no other. I prefer FLs, but if you want a girl from a gogo, make sure you expalin exactly what your desires are.

if you have more questions, ask us on the Thai board. Always happy to help out a legend !

11Bravo

11-23-05, 13:42

Again, curious, stopped to ask price: 200 DOLLARS (WHAT'S WITH ALL THE DOLLAR QUOTESI was in the Seaview again last night. It was slim pickings again, no problem for me, I had brought my own.

One girl left with a guy, and was back within about half an hour. I remarked that was quick business. This is what happened. A price of 200 was agreed. Once they got to wherever it became apparent that the girls understanding was dollars and the guys Dirhams. Neither was prepared to compromise so no deal and back to the bar they come. No winners and two losers.

It seems that "dollar quoting" is becoming more frequent so be sure you both understand the currency you have agreed. Mind you making a negotiation in the Seaview is easier said that done given the volume of the band. Last night they had toned it down a bit, maybe blowing the speaker on Monday had something to do with it.

Frankly, anyone in cyclone who asks for 200, you just gotta know it´s Dollars. Indeed just about anywhere, it has been a while since 200 was a Dirhams price in any of the regular venues. 300 could be an unlucky number, that could be seen as a reasonable st rate for a good looker with delusions of Dollars.
Only place I can see 200 dhs still being in effect is for an average chinese girl pulled from TGIT afternoon, ST. Considering a number of the bars, in the evening, charge girls to get in (at least chinese), that 50 dhs overhead off of a 200 dhs ST doesn't leave much.

Will agree with Sporadic, other night's visit to Cyclone, when I did hear a 200 quote, no doubt it was a DOLLAR quote. To give credit, the girl who did initially quote 300 did cite dollars.

Have been told by a Cyclone a-lister that this is a ploy a devious provider will use on a tourist, determined by the "how long you stay dubai?", hoping said tourist will not know the true prices, be thinking his country's price, and pay in the world currency of USD's. Obviously, doesn't work on residents or those who have read the forum BEFORE arriving.

Best case she reported was she quoted a legit "500" for ST, and received $500 USD. I consider that an educational fee for the punter.

As oft stated, best to repeat price, appending DIRHAMS, just to save both a fruitless trip.