2005 Dubai Archived Reports [Archive]

Bizzie

01-07-05, 01:25

I had been at the Cyclone three nights in a row around the G-5 (?) trade show.
Yes, a bit pricey, with the entrance fee and drinks, but I like the quality.

First night I picked up Yulia(report soon). She was a little snooty, and maybe I overpaid but she turned out to be great. All CIS wanted DHS 1000.

The second night, I went home alone (couldn't fucking believe it!). TOO MUCH eye-candy and my senses got over-saturated. Again any decent CIS was holding out for DHS 1000, and I saw most of them going home alone as well. (I stayed till closing).

Third night (yes I am going backwards), again was not looking very good for me. There was a lot of selection, but by 1 AM, 2 or 3 of the CIS I would have taken were plucked right in front of my eyes (Damn the indecision). I had actually wanted to look at some Chinese but again couldn’t decide (I still have never had Chinese!). CIS rate: DHS1000!

By about 1:30, I had done a number of figure 8s, in all directions, when I walked by (rubbed against :)) Lena standing between the two bars. She smiled and said “vhere do you go again and again”, she must have seen me doing the rounds. “you vant lady”, “so much beautiful lady”. “OK, I’ll go with you”. She wanted DHS 1000 and would not budge. She promised me a piece of “heaven”.
I have “always” gotten better service when the chick approaches me versus when I make the first move. So we went to my hotel. Oh, and she’ll “fuck as long as I want to but she prefers to sleep in her own bed”. Fine.

I was pleased to see that she looked good even in bright lights! Nice tits, Nice ass, Nice smell, Nice clothes (not slutty). But slightly older than I thought, may be 27-28. She did a little strip tease. I took a few pictures. Nicely built, but not a hard-body. Natural suckable tits.

Great foreplay in shower. Good deep BBBJ, ball sucking, 69. Had me ready in no time for FS in many positions. At the halftime, she yapped about how she loves Moscow, and her flat, and her jobs. And about her Victoria’s Secret undies she had on. A gift from a guy from San Francisco, who just wanted to watch her fuck another man. And about the bracelet she had on, from a guy from Texas.

Do they have sex toys in Dubai, I asked? “No, not allowed”. Do you like sex toys because I have some? “Yes, but you can’t bring those to Dubai” she said.
Well I opened up the drawer and pulled out a couple of pocket rockets and went to work on her clit, pussy and nipples. She enjoyed the vibrators thoroughly and almost knocked me off the bed a couple of times. I had to hold her with all my power when she was coming and knocking her head on the headboard.
She then put a pillow under her as, and ‘forced’ me to enter her. I had to struggle to get a condom on, but she was too dazed to care one way or the other (Beware, it’s very tempting!).
While fucking her, I kept the vibrator hard at work, and she was coming so hard that she seemed to be choking. After about 30 minutes, she said to come all over her. So I obliged:D
She was surprised when some of the love juice flew up to her face. You may be able to see that in one of her pics.

11Bravo

01-07-05, 14:47

No good reason to hit TGIT this afternoon as had my pipes cleaned and polished by a professional last night got my shopping done early as she asked to be dropped off at Carrefour instead of home. As I was planning to hit Carrefour anyway after dropping her off, just a slight re-ordering of the itinerary worked for both of us. Always glad to help out, as long as it's not abused (as in Karen - right ER?).But with nothing to do this afternoon (at least nothing I really wanted to do), and not having been to TGIT for a couple months, decided to stop by. Actually, very pleasant. Not too crowded, which is both good and bad: less clients, but less providers. Plenty of room to move around without getting jostled. CIS few and far between (at least in the bar area).

Any number of familiar faces: Annie, Fifi, Jojo's back (but now, does some marketing, then moves on without clinging like a limpet), Sports Cap, Route 66, Turkish girl; all stopped by to say hi. Ginny just got back (JSF - remember her from York); she stopped by, but quickly lost track of her; being an a-list, she doesn't stay unattached for long, even in a sparse environment.

Also saw 2 I'd had "run-ins" with; one in particular refreshed a P4P 101 lesson: we'd agreed on price (200 dhs) ST, but I had neglected to specify number of shots. Once back at my place, we had reached an impasse: she insisting on 1 only; I suggesting 2 was standard. Only way to resolve was to agree to disagree, and I returned her back to TGIT unsampled (had posted this mis-adventure several months ago as a lesson re-learned). Yes, not talking big money, but just thought it disrespectful to all the ladies who do provide great service for 200 (she's cute, but not a-list). Needless to say, she did NOT come over to say hi.

Several new faces; besides several known ones (but never pulled), at least 4 new that would make a to-do list. Got one number; as her 2 friends also made the list, decided on discretion, so did not get theirs THIS time. (Suggestion: collect a few, but not a lot of numbers, on any given day, especially if it's not crowded. If they see you just collecting numbers, you lose credibility quick).

Had a nice hour chatting with a Scot passing through. He asked (smart), so I gave him the standard prices, which earned me several thumps on the arm from the ladies clustered around him. For certain, they were expecting a "newbie" bonus. Like I say, the reason she asks "how long you stay dubai" is NOT because she's interested in your travel itinerary; she wants to know how locally knowledgeable you are. Of course, if you've done any homework here, you know what the going prices are; how much you're willing to increase to be with her is up to you.

As always, TGIT always a gamble; a great day for me might be a disaster for you.

Tom Sorenson

01-08-05, 05:54

[QUOTE=11Bravo]
Any number of familiar faces: Annie, Fifi, Jojo's back.

I don't get out to the spots - have been to TGIT twice and that is it - none of the other places. I don't have any familiar faces to see.

But, I believe I have had the Fifi you mention because I saw her one of the times I was at TGIT and she says she is there every day. Due to limited connections, I have very few ladies to call. She was good the time I pulled her and I wondered what others experiences with her were like. Is she worth calling again? Is she one who gets better as you know her? How far will she go?

Any help appreciated.

Steve Dubai

01-08-05, 07:16

I had actually wanted to look at some Chinese but again couldn’t decide (I still have never had Chinese!). CIS rate: DHS1000!Good Report.

If your preference is CIS be careful about taking Chinese in Cyclone - the CIS consider the chinese cheap (because they limit the rates the CIS girls can charge) & dirty and once they've seen you go with a chinese girl, a number of them will not even go with you.

Shame that the Dhs1,000 seems to be the established rate now - at least you could negotiate down to Dhs700 a few months ago if there were not too many "newbies" around. I wonder if that has had a upward effect on the Chinese rates from thier Dhs400 - Dhs600?

Stevenh

01-08-05, 19:00

Being out with the boys, I went to Le Meridien Airport after having already gulped some, so no action for me that night, but here´s the stuff I´ve learnt (stand to be corrected).

Dubai is a fad-town, people (especially girls) are exceedingly volatile, when it omes to their places of manhunt.

The disco in Meridien Village has changed their band, instead of a more or less beautiful singer with bad voice, they now have a band, that is better to hear, but the fat mama singer from the piplipines is not a beauty.

A lot of very straightforward action, ranges from 5-8 on my scale, one stunning petite, 10 on my scale qith whom I had immediately an unspoken bond - I would have taken her, but she was already asked by my friend to come along.

Word has it, that the disco in the Medinat is absolutely humming at the moment, and the Aviation Club seems to be a good bet (I haven´t been there, that´s info from my friends).

Prices 500 DH go down to anything around 120 before closedown. The beauty asked for 500 at 2.00 a.m. Hm.

see you there....

Manu75

01-09-05, 11:35

hi everyone,

first of all i would like to thanks all of you for the help i got on the forum to know everything about the mongering life in dubai...

now my turn to share my experiences for the good of everyone!

i went to the cyclone a couple of week ends ago. it was closure time so i stayed outside looking for what was remaining. there was a few girls but not that great. then i noticed a nice young girl. she was not speaking very well english so she put me in touch with her boss. she explained me she is new and 18 years old. as she was the only ok girl i discussed the price and we ended up with a 400 up front to the boss. it was 3h30 am. i took her home, it was very difficult to communicate, almost impossible.

anyway we sat on the sofa, i started to kiss her... but her attitude was very cold, i had the feeling that i was forcing her. i didn't like that. we tried to talk, i have some russian english dictionnaries, i tried to make her feel at home. then i took her to the room and undressed her (nice big boobs and nice tiny ass!!).

i asked her for a bj, she refused, no dfk, nothing... i didn't know what to do, i wanted to have a nice time and to be nice with her. so i let her perform a hand job... then she went in the bathroom for a while and came back with her underwears on. i was ready to fuck but she thought it was finished. looking at me if i was about to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her! i got seriously pissed off and i asked her to call her boss to whom i explained the situation. she said don't worry she will do it but you know that in that case it is better to get rid of her. so i asked her to leave. i was fucked... 400 aed for a hand job...

be aware of those young inexperienced ladies!

cheers

Austin 27

01-11-05, 10:41

Sporadic

01-11-05, 12:45

Manu75: Sounds like you did not have much fun there mate.

I agree completely with you about not liking the "forced" vibes. That kills it for me as well. I wonder if you were scammed (does not really sound like it, despite the poor result) or just ran into a very, very new girl. In any case, a sh*tty situation. Thanks for sharing it.

I personally am not very interested in anyone not doing some marketing, that way we can at least establish a certain level of communication.

As Bravo has mentioned a million times, marketing tells you quite a bit about the lady in question. I guess this makes 1 million and one!

Cheers,

Sporadic

Ever Ready

01-11-05, 14:31

Manu75

I echo what Sporadic says, but in summary...
1. WTF use Cyclone? when York is so much cheaper (drinks and ladies)
2. WTF go for CIS? when Chinese performance is 2nd to none. (IMHO)
3. WTF not agree the service on offer first?
4. WTF pay up front?
5. WTF settle for just sex? (with Chinese there is ALWAYS sex AND massage).

Pure recipe to be overcharged and fleeced
I don't think there could be a worse case of getting it wronger...!!!
The wrong person got f**ked here !!!
Better luck next time. (Anyway, it's only money - LOL)

ER

11Bravo

01-11-05, 15:04

As she was the only ok girl I discussed the price and we ended up with a 400 up front to the boss. Worst case scenario; recipe for disaster. What do I ALWAYS say? Pay after. Now, in some situations, that is not possible. But I would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER pay up front to a 3rd party. NEVER! At least if you pay her before, you'll have some time to get a feel for the compatibility between you and her (as in on the way back to your place/her place, whatever). Paying in the bar gives no time for that; it's a done deal, and, as you found out the hard way, you're stuck with whatever happens (or not).

As Sporadic says, thanks for sharing. Hopefully others can learn from your mistakes. The one thing you did right was to accept the situation, walk away, and post, warning others.

I agree with ER: it is only money. And, believe me, a week from now, you'll be laughing as you have a great story to tell. Besides, barring some disaster, your next experience has got to be better. (If not, consider a change of hobbies).

And read the FAQ at http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showpost.php?p=302095&postcount=14

1. WTF use Cyclone? when York is so much cheaper You'll notice he didn't pay to go in, lurking outside. From the ladies I've talked to, they are always a bit skeptical of guys loitering outside of Cyclone at closing. Not saying they won't go with you, but pretty much certain they will ask for the money up front. Their feeling is: if you haven't come inside (as in paid to get in), then maybe you don't have the cash for additional services.

Generally, I agree with your statement. But just like the local restaurant is fine for most dining, SOMETIMES you just want to step up to the fancy restaurant. The meat may be the same, but the presentation and surroundings are just nicer. In the end, both places will satiate your appetite, but sometimes you just want to step out, top hat.

And I do agree with your other points.

Faisal78

01-12-05, 11:26

Hi everybody, I am in dubai from last 15 days now and sorry for not posting my expreinces here.

For pay after and pay before policy I have few mix experience but the last one was very good, Tuesday night I was in York, found a new CIS babe not speaking good English, she called her friend and we made a deal for 200 Dirhams for one hour, then she asked to pay her fiend here which I did, we went to her flat, she gave me an Excellent GFE experince.

But I still not recommend you guys to pay before its very rare to get good service after that.

I will be in Dubai for atleast next 15 days, and will be regular to York and Astoria, if anybosy wants to meet me there I will be very happy, just sent me a PM and I will send you my number.

FAISAL78

Manu75

01-13-05, 07:59

Hi,

I have been quite a few times to the sw who are behind the ramada hotel in Bur Dubai. Out there most of the time you have to pay upfront 100 or 150 AED for 1 shot to the boss, grab the girl and go to her place. Same mistake as the one at the Cyclone with the young girly...

I had once a GFE experience but for the other ones it was not that great. They just lay down waiting to be f**ked and that's it... Not that great! I suppose it is much better with freelancers. But I have the feeling that the supply is going down in this area. There used to be more girls... Am I wrong?

There is also the streets behind the Spinneys (the one on sheikh khalifa road heading to the burjuman). Is it a new place? You have a few chinese, blacks and CIS during the day and in the evening. I took a few time an ukrainian (22) there. She was nice, agressive in bed, and went for 100 AED (1 shot) or 150 (2 shots). Not easy negotiation but doable... She is now out of business, going out with a local at the immigration :-) working with customers she knows but I lost her phone...

Do you know any other places where you can get girls in that range during the day??

Thanks
Cheers
Manu75

Manu75

01-13-05, 12:25

[QUOTE=Ever Ready]Manu75

I echo what Sporadic says, but in summary:

1. WTF use Cyclone? When York is so much cheaper (drinks and ladies)
2. WTF go for CIS? When Chinese performance is 2nd to none. (IMHO)
3. WTF not agree the service on offer first?
4. WTF pay up front?
5. WTF settle for just sex? (with Chinese there is ALWAYS sex AND massage).

1- Cyclone because I heard they are the most beautiful girls but I have to admit I have never been in. That day it was too late I just wanted to check what was outside.... Are they really that nice? But my budget is not that high and I can't afford to take a girl for a 1,000.

2- I will never go Chinese, I don't like this type of girl, not racist but I prefer nice CIS. If anyone has a nice one to present me why not but I am not into it... Their agressive marketing and their accent make me fly away :-)

3- I agreed on the service first, but what can I say.

4- No choice.

5- Are CIS famous for massage?? DOn't think so

Cheers

11Bravo

01-15-05, 13:42

Out there most of the time you have to pay upfront 100 or 150 AED for 1 shot to the boss, grab the girl and go to her place. Same mistake as the one at the Cyclone with the young girly... I had once a GFE experience but for the other ones it was not that great. They just lay down waiting to be f**ked and that's it... Not that great!

Do you know any other places where you can get girls in that range during the day?? What!?! You can't get a GFE for 100 dhs?!? As Capt. Louis Renault would say, "I'm shocked, shocked!"

If you go to "pump and dump" providers, you do receive the service you pay for. It's just basic business: finite amount of time, finite amount of energy. You put your effort where the most profit is. To do anything more is a waste of time and energy for the provider.

AND if you're paying a 3rd party, well, that 3rd party is not taking the money just to alleviate the girl from the burden of carrying the money herself. For sure there's a split. Let's say it's a generous 70/30, so out of a 100, the actual provider is making 70, just under $20 USD, for having sex with you (that's a generic you:) ). And you're surprised she's not getting into it?

And yet you're asking where you can find more of the same? Ever heard the cliche "glutton for punishment"?

11Bravo

01-15-05, 16:57

4. WTF pay up front?.

4- No choice.Unless someone is holding a gun to your head, there is ALWAYS a choice: walk away; save your time and money for another day.

Pathologic

01-30-05, 06:27

Quite a few Russians out front and in first and ground floor bars in the Astoria, Al Fahidi Street, 5pm onwards. Dhs100 for a ST with a bit of negotiating. Nabbed a few 8's but saw one or two 10's.

Pathologic

01-30-05, 06:33

Quite a few Russians out front and in first and ground floor bars in the Astoria, Al Fahidi Street, 5pm onwards. Dhs100 for a ST with a bit of negotiating. Nabbed a few 8's but saw one or two 10's.

11Bravo

01-30-05, 13:06

I think TGIT is an option. Can anyone advice where
and what the TGIT is ?It's a bar in Dubai (actually, Bur Dubai).

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ER: Thanks for the help; Y did get ahold of me (in more ways than 1!)

Al2

01-31-05, 13:41

Ask Taxi driver to take you to ASTORIA HOTEL Menna Bazaar Road,Bur Dubai. The Bar is located in the same Hotel

If still you could not find I will send you the cordinates (GPS) through PM.

Hello everyone,

I will be in Dubai only very short and have only a possibility to pick up a
girl in the afternoon. I think TGIT is an option. Can anyone advice where
and what the TGIT is ?

Thank's and a report will follow.

Frank

11Bravo

02-01-05, 21:25

Locations added to general info section. Yes, it's incomplete. But it will keep a casual visitor occupied.

Koolman

02-02-05, 11:44

Making a short stopover in Dubai and can hardly wait to try out some of the famed Dubai delicacies. Like another recent post, I too have only late afternoon / early evening for all the p4p i can manage. Any idea on the afternoon/evening timings at TGIT ? I would be able to hit the street between 4 pm and 7 pm. Any other suggestions for whats available during this time ? I have tried to search the forum for massage places as well and remember reading a post on a Chinese place but now i cant find the post. Can anyone help me with contacts for a massage place ?
Lots of information requested from someone who has hardly contributed anything to the forum so hope you will help me out. Who knows, maybe will find something new and worthwhile to share with you all !

11Bravo

02-04-05, 20:30

Newbies only, experienced punters will be bored:
1. Best Price
Couple weeks ago, went to Cyclone. Yes, pricy, but every now and again... Talking to one girl, asked price. She gave me the "up to you". Now, some punters accept that; I prefer to pin things down, just so there're no misunderstandings on either side. So we did a couple rounds of "how much you want/how much you pay"; neither of us offering an amount.

About that time, a friend of hers walked up, said hello. Turns out, she knew me; seems I'd pulled her sometime ago. To be honest, I didn't remember. She spoke some with her friend, then walked away, and I got back to negotiations. Girl I was talking with said her friend had just told her I was an all-right guy, so "let's go" (you will become known, one way or another). I still wasn't ready to leave without knowing what she expected in payment. She then asked me what I'd paid her friend. I honestly said 500. She then asked for 600. I declined, saying I liked 500. She then gave me the spiel about "weekend surcharge". I declined, so she asked if I wanted her to call her friend back; I could take her for 500. I declined, mentioning (in a nice way), I could find my own ladies. She then stood up, said "Maybe I see you later", in a nice way, and walked away.

Now, for me, that was class. Obviously, she felt on this night, she could do better than 500. If not, and I was still around, she would consider my offer. But, right now, why waste our time.

So, the choice was mine: was it worth an extra 100 to experience her, that night? Well, the rack was alluring enough, and I didn't want to have to return another night (with entrance fee) looking for her. Yes, could have just gotten her phone number, but any other I'd pick, I'd just be wondering what about Miss Cleavage.

So, went back up to her, made the deal, and off we went. Bad news was: actual rack disappointing: initial appearance due to great support from a bra; also, was injected (nipples on the downslope just not appealing). The good news: ok, had scratched that itch; no need to return.

Moral of the story: her best price is what she thinks she can get; your best price is what is it worth to you. If you can agree, fine. If not, walk away; no hard feelings. There are any number of girls at Cyclone who I will exchange greetings with, but both of us know we will not meet on a price.

2. Menu
This week, went to Imperial Suites, looking for the girl I'd missed last week. Fended off last week's pull; what can I say? Nice girl, average; just not enough to overcome the allure of others untried. Just as I was about to give up, in she walks, sees me, and instantly comes over, chastising me for not having called her. I do like her marketing approach; up close, but not pushing to "let's go NOW". Initially, I skipped discussing menu; she was interesting enough that I'd just let that work itself out. Did discuss number of shots and length of time (LT) ; both acceptable. Asked price; did a short dance of "how much you pay/how much you want?", she finally stating 600.

OK, nice work if you can get it, but not with me. I just politely declined, and started to scan the room (with others, I'd have been insulted enough to walk away - she knew I was NOT a tourist, but she was alluring). She asked what I'd pay; 400. She then started with the "weekend surcharge" spiel. I just wished her good luck. She then countered with 500. Still high for Imperial, but, do-able; but for that price, wanted to see what was on the menu. She understood bbbj, but cim... I knew she finally understood when she said, "you want to finish WHERE? She just said she didn't do that; if that is what I wanted... I said yes, she smiled, and walked away.

Again, for me, class. NO false promises to be reneged on later.

And, no doubt, she told her friends. She had just spent more than 30 minutes with me; for sure they'd want to know what the deal killer was. None of her group approached me (again, why waste each other's time?).

Once again, my choice: was a missing menu item enough reason to not try the restaurant? Surveyed the scene; noted time (was York a possibility?), then decided I had specifically come to experience her. Now past midnight; didn't think she'd last long with the m/f ratio becoming more and more unfavorable by the minute. Caught her eye, but now, I'd been relegated to the "netherworld"; I was a spectre who, while acknowledged (better than being looked through), would not be worth the effort of another try. Made another circuit of the room, ending up behind her. I did admire her tactics; I was standing behind her; she simply moved back into me. Didn't turn her head to speak, just slight pressure. Up to me. I told her cbj ok, but LT 400. She agreed; off we went.

Turned out, she was a GFE (given I had applied, to borrow PLM's phrase, BFE). Naturally turned on, soaked in fact; so much so, she was asking about where I had my condoms rather than the "you take shower". After she bucked and jerked a number of times with the foreplay, told her I'd take a shower and be right back; after all, we had all night for fun. Let's just say she was a very active partner. Likewise, in the morning (late morning, no departure rush), she opted for another full-service session, rather than oral. And she did end up with 500.

Moral of the story: bottom line: it is a business; her's to decide what services to offer; yours to decide on what to accept. But, once an agreement is made, you both can have fun.

11Bravo

02-05-05, 03:44

Decided to meet a friend at Jockey's. While waiting, my observations: Very convient place to meet. Good for having a drink, small enough to easily see someone (unless they've disappeared into one of the cavities of the far wall), even if crowded. Unfortunately, there does seem to be a non-european cover charge applied, but seems to include drink (s). Girls seem to arrive in waves. Always a core group there (majority core seems to be heavyset, older european cis). Seems Jockeys is also a convient place for the ladies to meet, looking for any early action before heading off to their office of choice. Or, waiting for their evening's appointment's mobile call. Some ladies there before 9; most disappeared by 10; then another wave arriving after 10. Some just make a short circuit through, either looking for friends or clients, then leaving. Some hang around for awhile. So, Jockeys really is hit or miss. Make sure she is working; some guys (good place to drink), will bring their wives/girlfriends along. If she is working, make sure she's unattached. As above, some guys will bring their dates while having a drink. Have seen several girls I recognized from, say afternoon TGIT, drinking with clients; know that Jockeys is not their normal office. Jockeys is near other more mainstream P4P venues: York, Imperial Suites, Rockafellas, Rumors.Most girls will leave you alone; if they do approach you, soft sell is the rule. Mostly CIS (european and asian), some chinese, have seen a couple africans. One uzbeki who did approach me had a novel approach: she proceeded to describe, in detail, her living accomodations (close, own bedroom, only 1 roommate, etc., etc), THEN asked if I'd be interested in accompaning her to see them. She never broke her pitch long enough for me to decline, until the end. (Did bump into her again at York, later in the evening).

Another european cis was sitting on a bar stool in such a short mini I was amazed she could sit and still remain decent. I'm sure it took YEARS of practice; the body was nice, the face was mid-30's; a very definite pro look; myself, I felt definitly minor league compared to her major.

Given that I'd just been to Imperial the previous night, we headed for York. Nice mix, surprised not that crowded, even for a Thursday night. Easy to move around, see and be seen. Of course, my eye was drawn to the chinese. Saw some familiar faces around: was that chinese blondie? Miss Wings (and does she have a sister?) ; others.

Some new, as always. Nice petite one in a Von Dutch t. Another with a beautiful face, average body; talked to her a bit. Only been here a month; english a problem, as she bemoaned. She looked a bit lost; hesitant, given the language barrier, to approach potentials. Hope she had a mentor around.

Also several attractive CIS. And some striking africans, though, given past posts, service can be risky there.

Any number elgible for a to-do list, no matter what your preferences.

Lastly: same, mediocre band. HOWEVER, they seem to have a new, GREAT female singer. Regular girl I know said she'd only started that week. Can really belt out the good songs; put it this way, I stuck around for her next set, even though I'd already made my selection.

Fingen

02-06-05, 02:55

hi,

urgent: is grand hyatt girl -friendly (no problem for me to extra-charge)but last post from 6 month explained that even with extra ,they didn't let the girl coming in the room?

is the emirates towers always girl-friendly?

i go there since a few years ,never had problems.

but last month , staying at the ramada bur dubai to try "rumours" ,i picked a cis who told me that the emirates towers are turning into a non-friendly hotel.

thanks in advance.

i canno't advice to go to rumours:every night ,2 men for 1 woman.

not even one above 6/10.

i visitd the york,so so.

really ,the cyclone is from far the best.i go so often there that i took a bottle.
when you do that ,you receive a great service plus a table ,crackers ,cheese,etc.

i was the king during 4 days. very funny ,except the choice of the ramada.
if the rooms are ok , with good high speed internet. the swimming pool is ridiculous.

Dabdoob

02-08-05, 14:41

Hi Guys,

Finally, I will be going back to Dubai. It will be a year since my last adventure in March 2004. I don't think that the scene has changed a lot but I would love to hear about anything new. I don't think that this trip would be as exciting as my previous one, which I described on this board, but I will try to have as much fun as I can.

I know that the info I need is posted somewhere on the board but for some reason I cannot access the board all the time as I keep getting the SERVER IS BUSY message.

I would appreciate it if somebody can provide any information about the two main interests I have for my coming Dubai trip. These two interests are massgage and spanking!

I need to know where to find professional massage places or contacts of ladies who give nice massage with or without extras.

I also need to know if any of you guys know about any girls who might be interested in spanking! It is one of my fantasies and I haven't practiced it since I was in the US. Of course I am talking about me spanking the girls and not the other way around.

I also would love to know about any nice ladies that I shouldn't miss while there. I would love to have recommendations especially from Sporadic, JSF, and 11Bravo.

Dabdoob ;)

Adimondo

02-11-05, 15:49

Hi to everybody and greetings from a cold, wet and dark country!

I'm preparing my next trip to DXB and couldn't find out from the hotel thread whether Regal Plaza is companion-friendly. Could you give some advice please?
Would highly appreciate direct, actual and working e-mail contacts of Admiral Plaza, Astoria, Rush Inn.

Thanks

Troller03

02-12-05, 11:08

I stayed at the Regal back in Dec. I had no problems taking the ladies up! Just don't look for any there unless you want to pick up some international chicas from the rock bottom which is nice!

Jasia

02-13-05, 07:52

Hi JSF,

Mate, are you into hibernation!! Lack of your FRs in DXB forum start taking it's toll. It has become dull and not exciting as as it used to be when JSF was active. Come on man.

Jasia

HectorG

02-16-05, 05:49

Holy crap, this website has site has finally returned!
And not a minute too soon. I am returning to DXB in May. See you then chaps.
Cheers

Mahku

02-17-05, 14:08

Troller3,

I think you mean Regent Palace, right? The last time I stayed there a few years ago it wasn't guest friendly but that could have changed. Also, it could have been my own damn fault because the girl that I brought in was a total street **** and looked the part.

Rock Bottom will always have a good mix of tourists, residents and a smattering of pros. It's not always dependable for finding what you want but it's worth a look if you're staying in the hotel. Also the band is usually good.

Upstairs above Rock Bottom there's a Filipino live band place. This is also sometimes a good place to snag a Filipina that's living in the Emirates. Not usually too many pros there

Austin 27

02-19-05, 12:07

Good to see the forums up and running again!

I've been away from the p4p scene for over a month now (mrs in town and changing jobs) but will be back in a big way soon hopefully! I've been enjoying a few freebies as time permits but the thing with freebies is you are often sucked into an emotional relationship - p4p is business and scratches that itch well enough.

Anyway, before I go I was wonder if anyone knows where you can get viagra in Dubai without shipping it in or going to a doctor and faking 'martial problems'. Hehehe

Member #2583

02-22-05, 11:17

Hi there,

You can get blue pills wherever you find the " Pharmacy" sign.

Of course for me, I feel more comfortable buying it from small pharmacies with this young indian "doctor" may be rather from the city center pharmacy with the lady doctor in it.

By the way some pharmacies may also try to assist you in order to raise your bill, suggesting new stuff like Cialis, or any other similar products.

What is really strange is that there is a new orange pill which is advertised around the clock on some radio channels. Strange nah?

Gurrah

02-22-05, 12:37

Hi Austin 27,

Can confirm that most of the "side street" pharmacies here in Dubai will sell you Viagra along with the other alternatives.

If you do have any problems please send me a PM and i,ll direct you to one that I know will sell to you.

Cheers

No_Commit

02-24-05, 08:57

Dubai thread is one of the few I religiously follow up on this forum as I had a few trips planned earlier which were eventually cancelled due to various reasons. However, I finally managed to make it there for 3 days this week and in my own fashion I would like to report back my impressions and experiences like I do every new mongering destination I have been to.

Before I go into details, I must forward a formal apology to 11Bravo whom I was going to meet on my last night in Dubai. Due to totally unforeseen circumstances and literally shocking news I received that evening, I was unavoidably late 40 minutes to our appointment and missed Bravo even though he took his precious time to make it all the way to my hotel just to meet me and show me around. Bravo, even though you have said on the phone that it wasn’t a problem, I can’t even begin to tell how sorry I am and I am sure I will make it up to you when I am in town next time.

Hotel:

Due to proximity to my day time location, I opted to stay at Sheraton Jumeirah Beach during this trip. The hotel is very girl friendly and genuinely considers their guests’ security. The doorman politely and discretely asks the girl a copy for their passport as soon as you arrive with a cab. I have to admit I liked the procedure at the Sheraton as it ensures traceability of a girl you may bring in a comatose condition if she tries to pull a fast one on you.

However, if you are in Dubai for mongering, stick with hotels that are in town as you will have to travel at least half an hour each way from the hotel trying to get to all the places that are mentioned on this forum. Furthermore, girls rightly ask for being compensated for their taxi drive back to their hang out locations when you are done with them which cost about 50 dirhems (USD14).

The rooms in the hotel were very spacious as well and nicely decorated. The bed is heavenly. But the negative points are that there is no shower cubicle in the bathroom and I myself don’t prefer having a shower in the tub. Most surprising of all is that there is no broadband service in the rooms.

One other thing you may want to consider is the construction which goes on all around the hotel. If you like your peace and quiet, book a sea view room. I also strongly advise booking well in advance as the hotel rates increase exponentially if they have high occupancy.

TGIT:

As already mentioned numerous times on the forum, this is a day time pick up joint located in Astoria Hotel in Bur Dubai area. Maybe it has been mentioned earlier and I may have missed it while reading the previous posts, but it needs to be highlighted that this place closes down at 4 pm and re-opens after 6 (or was it 6.30?). First time I visited the place was after 6 pm on my first day together with a colleague of mine. There were about 4 or 5 guys hanging out at the place and about 10 girls. About 6 were Chinese (one claimed to be Thai but when I tried to converse with her in her own language she admitted to be Chinese) and 4 from where-the-hell-is-stan countries. I hate to make generalisations but my impression was that the last use by date of all the girls present was long expired and there was none I fancied.

My second attempt to scope out the place was on my second day in country and I happened to make it at 4.15 pm only to find the place closed.

A pint of draft beer costs patrons 25 dirhems (USD7) and I can’t say anything about the going rates of a ST as I never went into negotiations. That does not mean however I wasn’t approached. The girls especially the Chinese contingent is very hard selling. But I just didn’t want to raise their hopes by asking for prices.

YORK:

Again together with the same colleague of mine, we ventured into York the same night. York is at the York International hotel in the same area of town (which is literally minutes away from Sheraton Four Points where I would have stayed if I had not considered my office location). The club entrance is on your left hand side when you enter the hotel upstairs. Entrance fee was 50 dirhems (USD14) which gets you two drinks. Although I had read the entrance fee was waived for some, it looked to me as if they were charging every one. One funny thing to highlight is that even though the metal detector lit up and buzzed like a Christmas tree when I went through, the bouncer at the door did not even bother to stop me.

The place is a big hall with a long bar running almost the entire length of the place located at the opposite side of the entrance. There are a few pool tables located at the left side at the hall when you enter the place and there is a smaller bar located at the right hand side. My preferred stake out location was this smaller bar feature as I had a perfect view of every single girl in the room visiting the ladies bathroom.

At 10.30 when we went to the place, girl to monger ratio seemed to me like 3:1 and at 2 am it was almost 1:1. 50% of the girls are from CIS and 30% Chinese and 20% East African. The girls were between 2 to 6 (or even a few 7’s) on my scale (naturally depending on whether you are wearing your beer glasses or not).

At the end of the night, I left the place with an East African (I think she was from Eritrea or Ethiopia). I had an itch to scratch since the day I saw Ethiopian Airlines flight crew waiting for their flight to arrive at Don Muang Airport in Bangkok during one of my trips there. They were literally awesome. So was Ruth! She was in her mid 20’s, about 1.60 or 1.65 in height. She had curly hair and a very proportionate body with 34C cup tits. Most important of all she absolutely had a great attitude with a winning smile. I took her home at 2 am for an overnighter. She was very interested in making out in front of the large mirror in the room as I undressed her standing behind. She gave a BBBJ nearly to completion and 2 shots (one before sleep and one in the morning-I simply love morning sex). Amazingly enough, the deal was much less than the going prices mentioned on this very forum. We agreed on USD60 (as I was running out of local currency) and 50 dirhems for the cab ride back. I was very satisfied with the performance.

What I liked about York was it wasn’t a burden on the ears. The music was exceptionally low. Maybe I am getting old but I can’t stand places pumping out loud techno music at their max sound capacity. Moreover, I also found the well lit pool area very useful as well. Once I had homed on my take for the night, I took her to the pool area to take a good look at her before making any commitments.

CYCLONE:

I left the best of the joints to last in order to visit the place together with 11Bravo if I had managed to make it to our appointment. But as I had missed him, I made the trip myself. Cyclone is in a different area altogether with York. Unfortunately, I can’t tell exactly where it is as the taxi driver did not need any specific instructions.

Entrance fee to Cyclone was 60 dirhems. And a whisky soda costed me 28 or 30 depending on the barman. That kind of behaviour really puts me off. Not that I mind the 2 dirhems which eventually I may or may not give as a tip, but knowing that I am being taken on a ride simply boils my blood.

As you enter the place, there is a small bar at the far left. Going left to right, there is a small island bar in the middle and there is another and bigger island bar on the right. Far right is a dance area which nobody uses.

The music was also not very loud and the songs were from the era when I considered myself young. Another nice welcome for me.

Majority of the girls are actually from Russia and CIS with 25% Chinese standing strictly between the far left and the smaller island bar. I did not see any Africans that night.

I stayed there between almost 11 and 1 am. Initially, I tried to poach a tall, curly chestnut haired Russian looking angel at first and approached her to see whether she was interested in having a drink with me. She was just literally standing there 2-3 meters away from the door in the gap between the small and the larger bars, She had the 1000 yard stare in her eyes making her look as if she was out of place which made me think perhaps she was new into the game. That gave me the urge to take her out. Alas, without even blinking she flat out refused me. Later in the evening, I saw her making two rounds around the bar and she gave me a look but in both times I was pre-occupied with two other girls.

After my unsuccessful approach, I moved near to the dance floor and started conversing with a blond from St Petersburg. She had short curly blond hair, a very nice butt and a very successful rack hidden under a black long jacket. As the conversation progressed though, she indiscreetly played with her jacket to give me a good look on the goods. After 20 minutes or so, we moved on to the negotiations. She asked for 1200 Dirhems for 3 hours which was far more than what I would be prepared to pay for and although she went down to 1000, having understood that she would stick to her guns at least for the time being I managed to wish her well 3 seconds before she turned around to and started talking to her next prospect.

I hate to sidetrack from my sequence of events but what I found out is that the first question you get hit from any girl in business in Dubai is how long you stay there and the next question is whether this is your first time in town. Some girls do this motion more professionally then others but essentially all they want to gauge are how much you are experienced with the local scene and how much they can overcharge you. Obviously, if any one tells her that this is their first trip, the prices unavoidably go up. Beware.

After my Blondie, I moved towards the other side of the bar and as I was walking, a cute petite brunette managed to attract my attention with her winning smile and her looks. I started a conversation and had a drink with her. Finally we came to the negotiation phase and I offered her a LT (until 11 am next morning) with 2 shots, and BBBJ. She asked for 800 dirhems and I countered her offer with 500. We finally settled at 600 and her cab fare. Lana is from South Russia, 30, quite petite, and smaller perky tits. Despite her age, her body had no marks, no stretches and very smooth skin. When we arrived at the hotel, instead of going straight to my room, we had a drink at the beach bar which set the mood right.

In the room, she was very attentive and very passionate. After all these years mongering, I still can’t decide whether I like GFE or not (I guess depends on my mood and the girl’s) but certainly in this case I had a great time. She was very responsive and sensitive. She managed to get 2 times out of me that night before sleep although getting me ready for the second shot took a lot of her time and effort which I rewarded back by giving her a 20 minute Thai massage literally melting her like butter and she made me promise I would give her a longer massage next time I am in town.

Next morning, we woke up at around 10am, and she checked my family jewels and got right into action. Without exaggeration, that session was one of the very best I ever had for a very long time.

When it was time to say our goodbyes (past noon by the way), the only minor problem was Lana had failed to mention to me that the taxi fare she expected was not back indeed into town but to Sharjah. At the end, the hotel taxi costed me 40 dirhems more than (total ride was 90) what I had initially envisaged the night before. But at the end of the day, it was a very small price to pay for what I had got.

Lana gave me her mobile and made me promise to call her next time I am in town which essentially could be as soon as 3 to 4 weeks. She was not the most affordable girl I had but certainly worth every penny I spent. At the end of the day, it is my firm opinion that the experience you get is far more important than USD50 extra you spend provided you can afford it. However, this certainly does not mean I would be comfortable with paying any price.

First Impressions of Dubai:

Dubai is a very fast growing, posh, modern, luxurious metropolis. However, I failed to see any spirit or character in the town. Everything looks new and certainly looks as if designed to separate your money from your wallet. I would not go to Dubai purely for mongering reasons unless you are stuck up in one forsaken Middle Eastern country. But if you are there for another reason, it provides good facilities to clean up your pipes. And it is not a very cheap place either. In the three bars I visited during 2 nights, I probably spent somewhere around 2000 dirhems on snacks, taxis, drinks, girls, and their cabs. It was definitely worth it and both of the girls I pulled out were very satisfactory but as long as I have the option to go to Bangkok or Jakarta, Dubai would not rank very high on my priority mongering destination list. Hopefully, that may change once I get the privilege of meeting 11Bravo and other forumers in time. At the end of the day, friends make a huge difference.

Next time around, I would like to visit other places which I had made a list using the previous posts on this thread before my trip but never had the time to venture to places like Rockafellas, Stayin’ Alive, Rumours, or Jockeys. Although not mentioned on the forum is another place called Garage which I had heard from a fellow monger in KL to be another hot spot.

So there is your work cut out, 11Bravo!

Hope this report is useful for someone.
Cheers
NC

Sporadic

02-24-05, 09:18

No_Commit
Hope this report is useful for someone.
Cheers
NCAnother opinion is always useful, and to everyone. Particularly when it is detailed and well written. Anyone looking for a model, here it is.

Thanks NC.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Bizzie

02-25-05, 00:55

N_C,
great report.
The rate at Cyclone has been between 1000-1500 for the A-list CIs for a number of months (if not a year). Add the entrance fee, drinks, taxis etc, and it's no longer cheap. But if you want the best selection of CIS, you'll pay for it and that's the place for you (IMHO).

One night when I left Cyclone alone at closing, a number of the DHS1000 CIS were also going home alone. I guess they rather go with nothing than to cut their rates!

I'm sure most know by now that that York hotel itself is not friendly. The Ramada in the vicinity is friendly, bu their bar, Rumors, sucks.

Anyway, for those who'd like some Indian, check out some pics of my first and only in-call in photo gallery (Thanks JSF for your help)..

Tom Sorenson

02-25-05, 10:29

I may be spending some time in Al Ain soon. Anyone know anything about p4p there?

Any info would be appreciated.

11Bravo

02-25-05, 10:56

No_Commit:
I find 2 things wrong with your report:
1. You don't owe me any appology. Like I said, not a problem. We both understand business obligations, you that night, myself, the next day.

2. Having said the above, I do regret that we just missed each other. Given how interesting your writing is, I know I'd have really enjoyed a face to face conversation. Next time.

Other than that, this was a GREAT report to read, just like Wolfram's on the Abu Dhabi thread: http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=339756&postcount=177
Two great reports within a day of each other. Like Wolfram, you obviously took the time to do the research: where to go, what to do, prices. That I appreciate. And I can also appreciate the time and effort it takes to write a great FR.

All the newbies should read NC's post, as it really lays out the bar's geography, so you know what to expect.
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TGIT: but it needs to be highlighted that this place closes down at 4 pm and re-opens after 6 (or was it 6.30?). ... I hate to make generalisations but my impression was that the last use by date of all the girls present was long expired and there was none I fancied ... I can’t say anything about the going rates of a ST as I never went into negotiations. That does not mean however I wasn’t approached. The girls especially the Chinese contingent is very hard selling. But I just didn’t want to raise their hopes by asking for prices.As posted, TGIT is really hit or miss. I've seen Cyclone a-listers in there (granted, rarely). Sometimes, newly arrived cute ones will be hanging out there, lacking anything better to do in an afternoon, hoping for a score, while they try to learn english and gauge where their office will be.

I know exactly what you mean by not asking about price if you aren't interested. Why bother to start negotiating "best" price if you aren't going to pull? Wastes her time too, which will NOT endear you to her. For chinese, I'd say 150-300 ST is legit, that's 2 shots with a massage in-between. CIS tend to ASK higher, though I really don't know what they'd settle for. There is a rush to get any pending deals done around 3:30. For me, best thing about TGIT is that it serves as a backup plan if I missed out the night before.

YORK: Although I had read the entrance fee was waived for some, it looked to me as if they were charging every one. One funny thing to highlight is that even though the metal detector lit up and buzzed like a Christmas tree when I went through, the bouncer at the door did not even bother to stop me.

What I liked about York was it wasn’t a burden on the ears. The music was exceptionally low. Maybe I am getting old but I can’t stand places pumping out loud techno music at their max sound capacity. Moreover, I also found the well lit pool area very useful as well. Once I had homed on my take for the night, I took her to the pool area to take a good look at her before making any commitments.You did get hit with the non-Anglo fee, BUT, it does include drinks, so really, not so bad. Buy your own drinks before 10 (prices are discounted), then use the coupons for drinks at full price after 10. But at least you passed the metal detector; when I set it off, I get searched.

MAYBE the York has learned and turned the music down. But when I've been there, it's been blasting, making it difficult to carry on a conversation without SCREAMING into the other's ear. But the singer with the band is good.

CYCLONE: I can’t tell exactly where it is as the taxi driver did not need any specific instructions.Just like Ric's; everyone knows Cyclone. On a map of Dubai, it's directly in back of the American Hospital.

Entrance fee to Cyclone was 60 dirhems. And a whisky soda costed me 28 or 30 depending on the barman. That kind of behaviour really puts me off. Not that I mind the 2 dirhems which eventually I may or may not give as a tip, but knowing that I am being taken on a ride simply boils my blood.Yes, and the entrance fee is WITHOUT any drink coupons. And not returning change, even if it will be waved back, is a big NO-NO for me too.

The music was also not very loud and the songs were from the era when I considered myself young. Another nice welcome for me.The music is kept at a decent level so it is possible to carry on a conversation without screaming. But obviously, there is an age gap between us :)

Majority of the girls are actually from Russia and CIS with 25% Chinese standing strictly between the far left and the smaller island bar.The geographic divide has been there for several months now. Well, it makes it easy to know where to stand.

She asked for 1200 Dirhems for 3 hours which was far more than what I would be prepared to pay for and although she went down to 1000, having understood that she would stick to her guns at least for the time being I managed to wish her well 3 seconds before she turned around to and started talking to her next prospect.And that's why the CIS hate the chinese; the chinese do keep prices down. And it is brutal where, like you say, you can go from the center of attention to non-existant in the blink of an eye.

I hate to sidetrack from my sequence of events but what I found out is that the first question you get hit from any girl in business in Dubai is how long you stay there and the next question is whether this is your first time in town. Some girls do this motion more professionally then others but essentially all they want to gauge are how much you are experienced with the local scene and how much they can overcharge you. Obviously, if any one tells her that this is their first trip, the prices unavoidably go up. Beware.This has been mentioned before, AND deserves mentioning again. The litany is standard, but there IS a reason for it. Even if you are staying in a hotel, just say you travel here often, once or twice a month. If asked why you haven't been seen before, just mention you usually hang out at York.

We finally settled at 600 and her cab fare. Lana is from South Russia, 30, quite petite, and smaller perky tits. ...That's a good deal.

At the end of the day, it is my firm opinion that the experience you get is far more important than USD50 extra you spend provided you can afford it. However, this certainly does not mean I would be comfortable with paying any price.Very succinctly put. By reading the forum, you can get an idea of prices. Then, venturing to the club, you can get a feel of what's gouging, and what's reasonable. Bottom line is: what is the experience with her worth to you that night?

First Impressions of Dubai:

Dubai is a very fast growing, posh, modern, luxurious metropolis. However, I failed to see any spirit or character in the town. Everything looks new and certainly looks as if designed to separate your money from your wallet. I would not go to Dubai purely for mongering reasons unless you are stuck up in one forsaken Middle Eastern country. But if you are there for another reason, it provides good facilities to clean up your pipes. And it is not a very cheap place either. ... Hopefully, that may change once I get the privilege of meeting 11Bravo and other forumers in time. At the end of the day, friends make a huge difference.Wow!! In an extremely short time, you've got this town pegged. Agree, EVERYTHING is designed to move money from your wallet into a local's. All the decorations offered just serve to aid that process. The infrastructure here is excellent; but this place is not cheap. Decent hotels are moderate to expensive (if you're paying out of your own pocket); food is not cheap. And drinking??!!?? Just pouring money from your wallet to theirs.

I do not consider Dubai a mongering destination in and of itself. It's fine if you have business here; makes a pleasant diversion. Better, and cheaper, places to go (e.g., a decent ST here, 200 dhs, that's 2000 baht; LT of 400-600 is 4000 to 6000 baht). I'd imagine same is true for Jakarta. But what Dubai does offer is a wide selection from the world: chinese, african, european CIS, asian CIS, some indian, etc., etc. Certainly Bangkok, and again, imaging Jakarta, cannot offer that. And, as you point out, Dubai does not have the ambiance of those places.

The only places you missed that I do visit are Stayin Alive-Imperial Suites and Jockeys. Really don't frequent Rockafellas, given the demographics there. Rumors: never been, no plans to go. Have never seen a report that has made me change my mind. Garage: maybe 5 years ago, but now...? Haven't read any reports lately. Besides, it's in Diera, near Nasr Square, and that's a no-go area for me.

11Bravo

02-25-05, 15:14

Nobody had mentioned this, so I will. From the Gulf News, page 1, 23 Feb 2005:
TEMPER TANTRUM

Foul language costs traveller Dh6,000

Dubai: A quick-tempered passenger who swore at airport officials over a short delay at the customs desk was fined Dh6,000.

The 37-year-old civil engineer, identified as WT., had gone to Dubai international Airport to fly to London. The court heard he had been drinking before he arrived at the airport. When he reached the customs desk, he was delayed for a short while. He lost his temper and argued with officials. When efforts were made to take him to the security desk, he swore.

The Briton was taken to the airport police for questioning. He was charged with swearing at a government employee and for being drunk. The Dubai Court of First Instance fined him Dh6,000.

Doubt if he made his flight, either.

Point is: be discreet. That's low key in EVERYTHING you do. No, you do not have to allow yourself to be pushed around. But NEVER lose your temper, and ALWAYS be polite. Personally, I've been treated by aiport security here MUCH nicer than the Gestapo authorities back home. But, I'm always polite.

Unlike other Middle-Eastern countries around, you can drink here. But they also expect you to be able to hold it. Likewise, a lot of other things... well, they look the other way. UNLESS you give them reason NOT to.

Austin 27

02-25-05, 20:43

Denis

02-26-05, 09:29

Austin 27

02-27-05, 08:43

Hi all,
I will be in Dubai next week for the first time, I read all your valuable reports and I guess I am ready and will know where to go, but I was wondering if there is any Massage Parlor available in the city?
Also is there any street scene?
DenisHi Denis,

I can recommend getting a copy of the Gulf News and looking through the classified section - there are plenty of numbers advertising 'men only' massage and relaxtion!

As for the street scene - I keep well away from it. As Bravo has rightly put it be discreet and keep out of the public eye. I would recommend sticking to parlours or checking out one of several clubs and bars with p4p action.

Austin

Faisal78

03-01-05, 08:50

Hi All,

I am now in Dubai from last 2 months but was out of the mongering scene, was visiting clubs like TGIT, York and Imperial Suites but only for drinking and watching Soccer matches in York.

But from last on week I am getting back into mongering, before posting any information I want to request everybody that please don't pay more then the normal price.

There are new girls in TGIT, they are asking for higher prices but can come down if you negotiate, like some girls ask for 200 for a ST, but the normal rate in TGIT for ST is 100 or maximum 150 depends on the girl.

York from last few days is very slow, music okey not much crowded, girls asking more then the normal prices and by 1:30 it looks very empty.

In evening I am regular to both TGIT and York, I will be more then happy to meet any fellow monger for a drink or chat, please PM me for my mobile number.

FAISAL78.

DG69

03-04-05, 06:51

I am now the first time in Dubai and I had yesterday some lets say unusual experiences. I went to York Hotel. It was growed many girls from China and Eastern Africa, also some from CIS. The most men there were from India, I suppose. So, the girls focus on those Western guys. As soon I enter I was approched by many Chinese girls and also buy some pretty Ethiopian chicks. The Chinese were mostly ugly, too ugly for fuck, imho. The Ethiopian once are pretty sometimes very pretty. They were also very nice from behaviour. But, during negotiations I got the impression that they don't make Oral or Anal sex. So, at least I took a girl from Madagascar whose was quite pretty. But, two times I talked with real stunners. The one was a girl from Eritrea, she was quite young, I guess 18 and very pretty. For the night she wants 500 Dirham. But, she don't want come to my appartment house, which is by the way not girl friendly. This girl from Eritrea wants me to gome to her appartment. It was a bit suspicious and so I declined. Than I met a real beauty from Baku. She also asked for 500 Dirham for the night. Oral and Anal included, but she wants that I pay the money beforehand to her Manager (a older woman). I also declined that, because it seems to me not serious. Did somebody made a similar experience and what have you done than?
Ah, I forgot, because my appartment house Ramee Guest Line appartments is not girlfriendly, did somebody know a good but not too expensive hotel or appartment house in this area which has free accomodations at this time. The most Hotels are fully booked at the moment.

11Bravo

03-04-05, 11:44

...and I had yesterday some lets say unusual experiences.Not unusual for here.
The Chinese were mostly ugly, too ugly for fuck, imho.To each his own. That's why I prefer the bars; you can see what appeals to you.
But, she don't want come to my appartment house... This girl from Eritrea wants me to gome to her appartment. It was a bit suspicious and so I declined.Wise move; pump and dump for sure.
Than I met a real beauty from Baku. She also asked for 500 Dirham for the night. Oral and Anal included, but she wants that I pay the money beforehand to her Manager (a older woman). I also declined that, because it seems to me not serious. Did somebody made a similar experience and what have you done than?This HAS been reported before, and you took the best course of action. It's a rip-off.

Mad Hatter

03-04-05, 13:24

Hi all,

Been a long time. Where is JSF???? Are you there mate?

Anyway, went into the scene last week.

Wednesday night: Go to Rockafellas - Regal plaza hotel (the next to Al Ain Center).

This place could give Cyclone a run for its money.

There were stunning women everywhere. Yes there were a few dogs too but most were above average. mainly 6-7s.
Quite a few 8-9s. Almost zero chinese. All CIS countries represented here.

The last time I was here, the cost was 400-500 for the night. Now most girls quoting 800. Thanks to all the "effing" tourists. Damn it people you are ruining the scene for both the residents and yourselves.

Approached a few stunning girls.

Finally ended up with one called Marina. 500 Dhs for the night. Beautiful long black hair, tight body, nice face.

She seemed to be really pleasant. I ended up breaking Bravo's rule and paid up front to her friend/boss.

We were heading back to my place. Arrived in the parking lot and she gets a call from her local pimp/boyfriend. Obviously he is drunk and starts being a total dick and abusing her and telling her that he loves her. He wants her to leave me and rush home to him.

I am getting a tad pissed off. She apologises. Calls up her friend/boss who rushes over to where we are and hands me back my 500. No questions asked. She apologises a lot for wasting my time.

All the while I was thinking that I was about to be scammed, and they turned out to be honest.

I went home alone at night but pleasantly surprised.

Member #1263

03-04-05, 16:42

Hi guys...do you think the babes in Dubai might have any Herpes!!...as i heard it can be contracted even if you are wearing a condom and also that oral and kissing can be part of it....safe mongering mates..cheers

11Bravo

03-04-05, 16:56

There is a lesson for newbies in the meanderings below. As the story does wander, here is the synopsis:
ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE

Part 1: Jinxed myself.
After telling the boys this afternoon that "I NEVER go out Thursday night; too much traffic, too crowded; I just have a regular take a taxi over." Call her up tonight to see what time she'll be getting here (and if she's bringing dinner) ; get the dreaded "have to take friend to airport tonight". (If you need a translation of this, just look back a couple pages on this thread).

What's all the more galling is that, this morning, I passed on a morning wake-up (actually, it was more a nooner as we didn't wake up until noon) with Wed's call in. We woke up; while she was checking in on her mobile, I got up and grabbed a shower, figuring the "I go home now" was quickly coming, given the hour. On returning, she was still in bed. Got a nice massage; still, no mention about returning home. When I asked, she told me "Waiting to finish morning's work". (That bumped her rating up by several points). I passed, with tonight's regular in mind.

Oh well. On the bright side, good chance for a recce.

Part 2: York
Hooked up with JSF, Chongster, and Crazee at York. Arrived just in time for Happy Hour's last call (9:45). Was amazed: for a Thursday night, York was not crowded at all. Not all that many ladies around. Approached by a chinese pair, one cute in denim jacket (for short, Denim). Was interested, but not at that hour. They moved on. Several other familiar faces came over to say hi. Yali, a regular, offered to set me up with her "new" friend; I declined. Saw Ginny; know by experience, nice rack, above average service. She was trying to make time with a Japanese, saw me, smiled, waved me over. As I was not THAT interested THEN, just waved back. Striking out with him, she moved on to another Japanese table.

I could only keep thinking, THIS is why I don't go out Thursdays. Limited selection, quality down. Another attractive girl, not a stunner, but noticable in a dress and short brown hair, wearing a mobile around her neck (for short, Mobile). Even by 11:30, York not that crowded. Lot more Africans now in residence. The Chinese garrison by the front door noticably reduced in numbers; in fact, not enough mass to hold their position against the onslaught of other nations.

Made a circuit to try and spot any hidden gems. Saw Yali again; she was talking to Mobile. Stopped to again talk with her, with a plan to move the conversation to Mobile. Yali said it was her (Yali's) "Lady's holiday" tonight. When I didn't understand, she enlightened me, "You know, every month...". That's why she's a regular; also enjoy her sense of humor. However, no introduction nor acknowledgement from Mobile. I moved on.

Past midnight, York was filling up, but that was not necessarily a good thing. LOT more guys than girls arriving. Crazee trying to decide whether to abandon ship and head for another port, Chongster going to stick around for awhile. Making another loop, I made eye contact with Denim again. She and her sidekick came over, trying for the pairing. Said I was only interested in taking one girl. Specified the menu to Denim (bbbj/cim, massage, FS, sleep, morning wakeup). Asked for a price; she replied "600". Now, I don't even pay THAT at CYCLONE. I just replied (with a smile), "No thanks", and went to track down Chongster and Crazee.

Denim came up; told her I was just looking for my friends. She said they were back towards the pool tables. We both joined them there. She was very attentive, always maintaining physical contact (works for me, I like the attention; works for her, I'm occupied). Denim then asked for 500. Now a case of DEJA VU from Imperial last month:

500 high, but... do-able, and it was Thursday night, M/F ratio changing in favor of the provider. BUT, for 500, wanted to make sure of the menu. Got across the bbbj (after a bit of trying; her asking "you like that?", me thinking, "well, what do you think? otherwise, why would I be asking?"). Anyway, just like last month, really stumbling on the CIM concept. FINALLY, JUST LIKE LAST MONTH, I KNEW she understood when she said, "You want THAT?", as she pulled her head away with a grimace on her face. OK, message CLEAR!! I moved in one direction; she disappeared in the other.

Back with the 2 other Amigo's. I was just about ready to cut my losses for the evening. Second galling thought: I should have pulled the "limited english, nicely dressed" girl from TGIT that afternoon. Several girls at TGIT that afternoon would have easily matched any available at York tonight. York Thursday night: quality and quantity NOT there. Had not seen Denim; saw Mobile but lost her in the, by then (12:30) packed crowd. This was going to be one of the FEW times I wasn't going to find anybody to pull (especially as I saw Ginny disappear out the door with client in tow).

One last circuit; spotted Denim; she was still around. Then, at the same table, Mobile and another cute girl I THOUGHT I had seen my last visit to York, month ago, with Cat's Away. Then, occupied with Yali, but now...

Tried to make eye contact with Mobile; she just looked THROUGH me. For whatever reason: too old, body too fat, wallet too thin, customer of Yali, had heard about my menu wants..., whatever, there was NOTHING there, no eye contact, no smile; for her, I did not exist.

Cutie did smile. But quiet, and no physical marketing. In talking with her, found out her english limited. She basically was just sitting there, looking cute. Discussed menu with her. No problems there; when asked about bbbj, it was a resounding NO, so CIM a moot point.

So, 3 possible's Denim: attractive, not MY menu, but, she had been VERY attentive while marketing, holding hands, putting her arm around me, massaging my back and shoulders. Good indications of a positive attitude. Mobile: OK, could have tried to pursue, but, as I posted above, with THAT attitude towards me... Cutie. More limited menu than Denim, though not by much (what is the point of a bbbj without CIM?) No physical marketing, quiet.Well, the advantage Cutie had: she was there, THEN. Asked about price; she gave me the "you stay dubai long time; you know price, you tell me". I offered a respectable 400; she responded "Not 500?". I said "No thank you", and moved 1 step away. The step was, I'll admit, a physical rebuke, but also served a purpose for both of us. Next to her, we were each occupied. Moving away, we were BOTH available. Within 5 minutes, another punter stepped in to speak with her. Don't know what HE offered, but he quickly moved away.

Felt a tap on my arm, from Cutie; knew she was going to accept the offer. Weighed my options. Door #1: Denim: good attitude, higher price. Door #2: Mobile. Attitude. Door #3: Cutie. Possible good attitude.

It's a fine line: is her silence due to dis-interest, or to lack of language skills? Decided to go with Cutie; she slightly nicer looking than Denim; I'd take the risk on attitude.

Lesson: Physical attraction there, with all 3. However, final call was based on attitude (and proximity).

Happy to say, very nice time. cbj was a cbj; what can I say. But good massage, strong; she had worked as a masseuse in China. Very active PARTNER; always nice when your ministrations strike moisture.

Once again, woke up past 12. Again, no mention of going home upon waking; a FS morning's wakeup on both our menus, without prodding (well, verbal anyway).
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Mad Hatter: Now that IS an incredible story!!! For a story like that, it would be worth the (loss of) time. Nice to see your post.

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Hi guys...do you think the babes in Dubai might have any Herpes!!...Gee!!!! Do you think that out of the 1000's of WG's here, some might be infected !!! with some types of STD's!!!? Just like the general population anywhere? Obviously, your risk increases by engaging in risky behavior, one of which is engaging in intercourse with someone who does have multiple partners (this well known for how many years!!!??). The only 100% guaranteed method of prevention is abstinence. There is risk in any endeavor; up to the individual to evaluate the trade-offs for himself.

Dubai Dog

03-04-05, 20:43

Well, I do monger in the Bur Dubai Triangle and its great, however recently I have been trying something a little different and was wondering if anyone else had!

I was encourage by a fellow monger who had a successful encounter with a lady in Abu Dhabi who he met up with in an online chat forum..I think it was Yahoo > Groups > Philippines. So for a few weeks now I have been fishing in ICQ and have been surprised at the amount of contacts one builds up....even with a few ladies here in Dubai. I don't have much opportunity to setup meetings etc... perhaps thats a little ambitious for me given my status however I am encourage by these virtual opportunities. Has anyone any type of online hook up ..professional, amateur which they can share?

Happy mongering.

DG69

03-05-05, 08:36

After this unpleasent experience with this Ramee Guestline Appartment Hotel, I checked out there. Ok, I had not payed the 200 Dirham for the girl, but all the hazzel made me angry and I promissed myself not to stay in such a unfriendly house. It was difficult to find a free Hotel room in that area. It seems that now too much people spend their holidays here. I think that it might be better to try Abu Dhabi. It might have there not such a wide collection on girls, but maybe more girlfriendly and cheaper Hotel.

After I found a new Hotel which costs me the whole morning, I went to TGIT. By the way the Hotel was Regal, they charge this time 450 Dirham for the night. Later I found out that they also are part of that shitty Ramee group.

In TGIT I just wanted drinke a beer and look around. The restaurants were still closed and so I thought I could use the time for having a beer. Right before the entrance a chinese girl crossed my way. She followed every of my step. When I sat down at the bar she stand behind me. I tried to ignore her but she was like a dog. On the one site I pissed because I was not interested in her on the other site she was decend and yes she had a nice attitude.
I told her that I don't need sex, that I just had f... and that I just want to enjoy my beer. She had a nice face, her body was Ok, as far I could she, but I was shure that like the most eastern Asian girls she has no backside, no long legs and no waist. I like girls who have a guitare figure. Latinas, Arab or Ethiopian girls have such bodies. To make it short at the end she asked for 150 Driham and her appartment should be very close to Astoria Hotel. I thought why not for that price it is worth to make a new experience.
The sex with her was good, she had a clean appartment, she had nice tits, but no guitare figure. I f.... her for about a half a hour and I realized that I will not be able to cum. So, I payed her the 150 and went out. After I spend the afternoon in the city shopping mall I went back to TGIT. Just to have again a beer and hopefully the change to observe the scene. TGIT was growed with Indian guys, I don't need to pay the entrance fee, but the Indians. So, it's like a two classes society. The girls approached me like hell and ignore mostly the Indians. I met a Ukrainian who I speak the night before. She asked for 200 Dirhams and so I went out with her to my Hotel. Bad surprise, the Hotel guy wants 100 Dirhams too. I decide not to payand go to the girls appartment. Cost me a additional taxi ride and her appartment wasn't so good. But, the sex was fine very passionated and gfe. I was really pissed that this Hotel wants also their part of the prostitution cake.

Later I went first to this Rockafeller bar in Regal Hotel. But, there was only a few people. Than I went out for York Hotel. Like the day before many Chinese and East African. I found a nice Ethiopian girl, but it was just too early and I also want to see Cyclone. So, I went for cyclone. I found this place not so good. The chinese there were better than the Chinese in York, but the CIS girls were imho not such stunner like I expect. So, I went back to York. I thought maybe I shall take a sexy Ethiopian or Eritrea girl. So, I met one and went with her to my Hotel. Same story, they want money and I don't want give them the money. So, went with the Ethiopian to her appartment. The appartment was nice. I spend the night with her. She provide not such a good sex like the Ukrainian, but her body was perfect. I asked myself why do I need a Hotel if I spend the night with the girls in their appartment?

11Bravo

03-05-05, 14:13

After I found a new Hotel which costs me the whole morning, I went to TGIT. By the way the Hotel was Regal, they charge this time 450 Dirham for the night. Later I found out that they also are part of that shitty Ramee group.Perhaps a lesson here: a bit of research beforehand, http://www.*************.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1619 will save you time, aggravation, and perhaps money. Know from where I speak: my first time in Dubai, without wsg, I ended up at a non-GF hotel. Only found that out AFTER bringing a duo from Cyclone back; NO entrance. Luckily, they knew of a ST hotel.

Trance

03-06-05, 01:59

This is my 1st post ever. 1st of all I want to thank the admin or whoever allowed me post for such a long time requesting.

I am pleased to see so many enthutiasts on this forum and especially for Dubai. To tell u the trust i've been here for ever 2 decades and 1 thing i havent done is to pay for b!t*# and thats about to change.

Out of all the places mentioned i've ony been to cyclone 4 times and that was only for a laugh. 1st time i went there i couldnt believe my eyes coz i couldnt believe this was Dubai; even though i had seen so many actions on the streets.

These days the streets are very quiet and 180 degree's you'll find chinks which i hate. I've heard about the brothels and all but i want to keep it secret from friends and co... thats why i aint asking any of them.

Can someone assist me on this or give me a pm with any contacts... a while back i read something about baraha but i cant seem to find the link anymore.

Remember no africans and no asians if you ever pm me. Thanx

Mahku

03-06-05, 14:34

11Bravo

03-06-05, 15:09

The forum was blocked in the UAE this morning. Anyone about to come here should print up the reports from these pages before he gets here. You probably won't be able to access WSG here from a normal connection. A sad day for mongers here...Good advice. I'd copy and paste interesting info to a file. Now, more than ever, IMPORTANT to do your research before you get here.

Denis

03-06-05, 16:45

Thanks to all the guys who sent me info on Dubai,
Unfortunatelly my wife decided at the last minute to join me so I was unable to escape for some fun but at least we staying in a very very nice hotel: The Residence at the Royal Mirage. This is the hotel!!
Next time I hope I will be more lucky
Denis

Yours Faithfully

03-07-05, 14:13

The forum was blocked in the UAE this morning. Anyone about to come here should print up the reports from these pages before he gets here. You probably won't be able to access WSG here from a normal connection. A sad day for mongers here...This might be something to do with the word "sex" in the domain name. I am not in Dubai but always read the wonderful posts which we miss here in Bahrain. Can you guys try the ip address instead of the domain name. Just put "70.85.42.20" without quotes on the address and check if it loads.

Hi Guys,

Because the Forum is on a dedicated server, you can access it via it's IP address at http://70.85.42.20/.

Thanks,

Jackson

My Kapitan

03-08-05, 05:56

Hi, Good to see the forum is up and running again it was missed. I'm back in Dubai for a couple of weeks spending time with my regular but also out and about...

Rockafellas and jockeys last night (Monday). Jockeys has taken a dive waitresses not as good as before (Oh if only Lili would return - Saw her in the Bahrain country club in December but thats another story) but still an excellent early venue. Change of girls here but still in the older age range. Moved to Rockafellas at 1030. What can I say - why does anyone go to the cyclone! Plenty of new faces and an excellent new band to boot. Lots of blond CIS which is my preference. Did the rounds and found 500 was the asking for all night, which is in line with previous experience. Basicly now looking for 3somes with my regular so it restricts choice somewhat! bUt we found a player at the 500 mark. A good time was had by all!

Free drinks for ladies all night at the lodge on Tuesdays so will give it a go tonight.

Nauskas

03-08-05, 07:35

It might be useful to actually give some useful info before asking for it in your very first post.

Not a very friendly post at that.

I'm sure you have lots of great knowledge to share, but keeping your racism to yourself and request simple without lots of conditions might be helpful.

TIA

This is my 1st post ever. 1st of all I want to thank the admin or whoever allowed me post for such a long time requesting.

I am pleased to see so many enthutiasts on this forum and especially for Dubai. To tell u the trust i've been here for ever 2 decades and 1 thing i havent done is to pay for b!t*# and thats about to change.

Out of all the places mentioned i've ony been to cyclone 4 times and that was only for a laugh. 1st time i went there i couldnt believe my eyes coz i couldnt believe this was Dubai; even though i had seen so many actions on the streets.

These days the streets are very quiet and 180 degree's you'll find chinks which i hate. I've heard about the brothels and all but i want to keep it secret from friends and co... thats why i aint asking any of them.

Can someone assist me on this or give me a pm with any contacts... a while back i read something about baraha but i cant seem to find the link anymore.

Remember no africans and no asians if you ever pm me. Thanx

11Bravo

03-08-05, 15:57

Because the Forum is on a dedicated server, you can access it via it's IP address at http://70.85.42.20/Officials here are wise to that; numeric addresses are being blocked as well.

why does anyone go to the cyclone! Well, if you're an asian studies major... you will find top of the line there (IMHO).

11Bravo

03-08-05, 16:25

It might be useful to actually give some useful info before asking for it in your very first post.

Not a very friendly post at that.

I'm sure you have lots of great knowledge to share, but keeping your racism to yourself and request simple without lots of conditions might be helpful.I certainly agree with you about the racist comments from Trance. That is one thing long-timers do pick up here - a mistaken sense of superiority.

But I will disagree with you about "great knowledge to share". By his own admission:
To tell u the trust i've been here for ever 2 decades and 1 thing i havent done is to pay for b!t*# And again, with that attitude towards providers, I'm certainly NOT inclined to pass any along.

Out of all the places mentioned i've ony been to cyclone 4 times and that was only for a laugh.You go to Cyclone once for a look-see. But why return if you're not serious? Perhaps it was the drink prices?

Can someone assist me on this or give me a pm with any contactsLet's see, been here 20 years, never P4P'd, and no contacts, no idea where to look? That, for me, is the definition of a newbie.
Remember no africans and no asians if you ever pm me.For me, there is no IF about it.

Mad Hatter

03-09-05, 08:56

Totally agree with what Bravo has said about Mr.High and Mighty.

Just a small comment on racism in this country.

I am a Brit-Indian. Never faced racism in UK. Came here and was shocked with the level of racism here. I mean it permeates everything. Salaries, bars, clubs, social life. I have actually had some people say to me that they wouldnt go out in public with me. In fact, even the working girls display quite bit of racism. The worst is when some underqualified janitor comes here and becomes a manager because of his skin colour and begins to think he is much better than all.

Anyway, back to more informative stuff.

Tried an MP from Gulf News Classified (wonderful ads - "massage for men only"). Located near the Golden Sands. Went up and picked one of the 4 chinese women there. All were in the 6-8 range. Picked one called Sufeh. Had a wonderful hour long massage. Then unhurried Full Service finishing with a CIM. Overall a 9 in service dept.

Contact is available for all regular members. Just PM me.

Sporadic

03-09-05, 12:38

Gents,

Could there be a chance we may well be dealing with someone (Trance) who has a limited ability to express himself in written English?

Worded differently, his post would not be patently offensive. Those twenty years of time in DXB may well turn out to be from birth to age twenty.

Or you could be correct in your evaluation.

MHatter: The racism thing is rather stunning in Dubai, I have no idea how people put up with it, I would be climbing the nearest bell tower...

from the Khaleej Times...
DUBAI — Entry to nightclubs in Dubai hotels by any nationality, including former employees, cannot be restricted by the hotel management.

The Dubai Department of Tourism and Commerce Marketing (DTCM) made its stand clear in response to cases involving nightclubs that were brought to its attention.

...Hotel industry sources have noted that it has been a common practice for some hotels to ban former employees — as well as people of certain nationalities and habitually trouble-making customers from entering their nightclubs — without proper consultation with and prior approval from the concerned Dubai authorities. “It is prevalent among certain nightclubs, but the public is not aware that hotels do not have any authority to stop these people from entering the nightclubs,” a source said.

...In some cases, customers are banned from entering nightclubs due to a “members only” policy.

The hotel management should first seek approval from the DTCM to allow them to operate a nightclub which is exclusively for its members.
They should specify the percentage of the membership, and provide reasons why they are restricting the entry of certain customers to their nightclubs.

Well, sounds good anyway.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Mahku

03-09-05, 15:00

JP2U

03-09-05, 16:49

The numeric address worked for a while last night, but was blocked by this morning. This only concerns home connections and maybe most internet cafes. Office connections are unaffected because they don't go through the proxy.
I'm sure they're reading this forum. And waiting for some lame-brain to spill out contacts and addresses.

11Bravo

03-09-05, 18:06

Could there be a chance we may well be dealing with someone (Trance) who has a limited ability to express himself in written English?

Worded differently, his post would not be patently offensive. Those twenty years of time in DXB may well turn out to be from birth to age twenty.

Or you could be correct in your evaluation.Yes, couple of word changes would make it acceptable from a wording point of view. But I'll stick to my initial assessment; I can gloss over the c-word, but the b!t*# I don't. MY reading between the lines indicates someone who feels he is above certain others.

You and I both agree on the ingrained racism here, and both of us have felt embarassed by it.

And, Mad Hatter, I take great pride in my previous work as a janitor. ;)

My Kapitan

03-10-05, 08:30

Tuesday – free night for ladies just about everywhere. Had an early start in Jockeys which was surprisingly busy at 8pm. Regular crowd of girls no new faces but a few seem to have returned, Margarita, Nana and Nellie with the enormous tits (otherwise known as the antichrist in my circle due to her ability to clean out all of your alcohol and destroy your apartment in an eight hour period).
Moved to Jimmy Dix at 10pm; dead dead dead. The band started at 1040ish which livened things up a bit. Only two average CIS’s just about passable 5’s didn’t bother to approach.

Moved on to the Lodge at 1130. I would have thought the prospect of unlimited free drinks for the ladies would have brought them piling in but it was not so. Lots of Pilipino girls taking advantage of the free drinks but not working. There was a bunch of 4 African girls in a group. Asking price was 400 for a ST – no chance I only do LT and 500 is normally my limit unless it’s a 10 or something special is offered.

Wednesday – Comedy night at Zinc. Show was excellent but seeing all those plump snotty ex-pat wifeys and GF’s in over tight jeans with the regulation 3 inches of flab hanging over the top reminded me of why I enjoy little tight, preferably blonde, CIS’s so much. It was relief to get to the Regal!

Regal was heaving, men to girl ratio of about 3 to 1. Weekends are always like that. I was with O but I did a little market research anyway, business was good for the girls and none would drop below 500 and no takers for group action. Nearly got Elena – small petite brunette- to join us, she was looking good in jeans with a skin tight top and was up for it, but her Saudi boyfriend arrived and wasn’t into that kind of action – shame. Another night perhaps….

11Bravo

03-10-05, 13:40

the times they are a changin'

took a break from the normal pitching rotation to venture out to cyclone last night, wed. hadn't been there for a couple months; wanted to check out the scene. weekend entrance fee: 85 dhs, no drinks included.

someone posted awhile back that he felt the tourists were ruining this place. at the time, i thought perhaps "sour grapes". i apologize. based on my experience last night, would have to agree.

10:00 pm: sparsely populated, as expected.
by 11, filling up.
by 11:30, hard to see across the room.
would say peaked between 12:00-1:30.
just after 2:00 am, noticeable lack of talent.

cis, chinese in residence. did not see any africans. "where-a-stanis", at least asian looking, few and far between. maybe some turks, or within that region. although, whoever thinks black eyeliner lips are sexy is beyond me.

i believe the female exodus an hour before closing is due to the police. they tend to serve as a marketing force, culling oversupply by visa checks as a place closes, as in "if you haven't been taken by closing, then you are surplus". or perhaps that's just my cynical nature.

now, anyone who knows me knows there is something wrong if i'm reporting about a scene at 2am. i prefer to arrive early, pull early, so by 2am, i'm engaging in some up/down sexercises.

arriving just before 10, sparse, but some of the chinese a-lists in their usual position. aiwa complaining she was fat; if she's fat... with her sultry voice, she is something (when her looks go, she can always make money in the phone sex business). told her she was my "canary in the coal mine"; if she was still around at 11:30, then it was a buyer's market; otherwise, a seller's. i didn't think there were all that many chinese in the office. certainly, the a-listers were there, but that b-list seemed to be underpopulated.

by 11:30, it was too crowded to easily see who was between the 2 bars. aiwa did stop by at 12:30, saying she'd just made my 11:30 deadline (you do the math!). candy also seemed to have changed clothes by midnight.

notable conversations/thoughts during the evening (none of these were on my a-list, unless otherwise noted) : by 11:30, with no real "gotta haves" in sight, gave serious consideration to breaking my mo and changing bars. however, i'd paid my entrance fees and figured i'd stick around to see what happened.

short hair: had seen her floating around for 30-40 minutes. very cute face; slender body. her limited english seemed to consist of "you take lady? take me? let's go". tried to find out what was on the menu; no understanding of the basics (you suck?). if she had a mentor, she wasn't around, and short hair made no effort to get someone else to assist her. thought about if i wanted to be "surprised" that evening, for good or bad. decided i didn't; she quickly moved on.

midnight, 0 for 1.

nice rack1: my full menu ok; offered 500, she accepted for lt. however, something just made me ask what time in the morning she'd be leaving. "morning? no, no. 1 hour, 2 hour, ok; but not morning for 500". 500 st? passed.

blue pants: lt ok, asked for 700 for a limited menu. limited menu for 700? i stepped away.

video: cute girl, nice rack for her size (proportional) ; wondering how enhanced the cleavage was. however, actually listened to my own advice (attitude, attitude, attitude) as she seemed more interest in the video games than with me.

1am, 0 for 4. thought about cutting my losses and just going home (first time that's happened in a long time), but, stubborness (or inertia) won out and i stayed.

striped top: repeat of blue pants.

white: nice face, ponytail, ok body; very nice white outfit with scoops and cutouts. menu seemed to be ok. when i asked for a price check, it was "200 dollars". note the currency; we use dirhams here. i smiled and said good luck (attractive, but not a-list material) ; rather than giving me a counter offer, she just replied, "good lady, good money", as she, as someone else posted, turned around and was gone in 3 seconds.

jojo: cute face, nice rack, bit older. i'd seen jojo in cyclone over the last 4-5 months. way back when, when she was new, thought i had a deal with her. she gave me the "let's go, you know prices, give me what you want". but i don't like that; too prone to misunderstandings/disappointments/scenes. so when i specified price/menu, she gave me a "are you crazy" look, said no thank you, and walked away; no counter offer given. so we'll exchange greetings, but that's about all. earlier in the evening, exchanged greetings. now, standing next to each other, nothing happening; listening to my own advice again (surprise, surprise), with no marketing on her part... smiled at:

shorty: earlier, i'd smiled, she'd stopped, exchanged a few words, but as i had not made a quick offer, she quickly moved on. listening to my own advice again (attitude...) let her go. now she was back, this time bit more interested. what the menu was, i forgot, when, on asking price, she replied "200 dollars". again, note the currency. and, this girl was cute, but york cute. i was actually surprised, and wasn't even interested in trying to negotiate down from that starting point.

close to 2, 0 for 8. either i was doing something wrong, or else i was in the wrong place! my impression: they were looking for the big score, or else multiple st's, not a (my) decently priced lt. and in my 0 for 8, i wasn't even counting the regular who just laughed at my rotundess.

one other who i didn't count: the famous yeyin. she used to be a york queen; now she's back after more than a year's absence. thought i recogized her; it was she.

i'd pulled her 4-5 times from york (no doubt, when business was bad from her perspective). however, the last time i'd pulled her (always lt), after a few phone calls (chinese and english) before/after round 1, she suddenly had to leave for the ole "girlfriend go hyatt, need passport, in room, i have key" routine. maybe, but, she didn't mention about returning. ok, her girlfriend had scored couple of punters who wanted to party, trumping my 500 lt; no problem. the problem was, i paid her (why i like pay after) my st rate, not her st rate (as i remember, i gave 300 as i consider her a repeater, she wanted 400). only 100 difference, but just a matter of principle (i'm sure for both of us). after that, she never spoke with me again.

now, she was, should we say, cool; obviously remembering me. for my own edification, i asked if she went lt; her monosyllabic "no" spoke volumes. however, i will say, she is worth looking out for: when she o's, it's multiple, and her facial contortions/colorations are something to behold.
ok, now almost 2. had seen another beauty i'd pulled before still around. she and another a-lister, standing next to me, asked if i wanted "new girl, only 2 days", the implication being fresh. i explained that, for me, new translated as: "inexperienced, and no english". they agreed. before i had a chance to ask beauty out (was thinking she might have had an early departure time due to a day job - i just have to get a handheld database), she said she was "going home" with a shrug of the shoulders, indicating that "no value customers and beat the police". before i could say anything, she was out the door.

that was just about it. time to exit, stage left, and look forward to thursday's regular. however, in looking around, spotted jojo; she was still around (as was yeyin, nice rack1, blue pants, striped top, shorty). in fact, nice rack1 stopped to ask what i was still doing there; replied "still looking" and turned away, not even interested in asking price. shorty stopped 2 feet away and smiled; again, she wasn't that cute, even at that hour, and i moved towards the door.

now, stepped over to ask jojo what she was still doing there. she replied "let's go"; i confirmed lt, menu (limited), price (she asking "not give more", i decling). making the best out of a bad evening, she said ok. worked for me as she had the cute face and the nice rack, although i knew that it was due to bra engineering (not false, just uplifting). average experience, long way from a gfe, or even the active experiences of the last couple weeks. so best i can say is, enquiring minds now know.

all in all, very disappointing from past cyclone history. will i be back; yes, cyclone is cyclone. but, for awhile, i'd recommend:
cis - rockafellas
chinese - york

only 1 sample point, but at an 85 dhs price, i don't plan on collecting many. a-list's are beautiful, but the prices... value for money, for me, better elsewhere.

Kat Lover

03-11-05, 11:20

Absolutely great update 11Bravo! And thanks for the email with Dubai hotels. I'll be there next Friday for 4-5 days and honestly, hotels are EXPENSIVE in your town!

My travel agents could only get me rooms in the US$250-400 range! I'm running my own business so need help here. Can anyone point me to some names and numbers of establishments that cost around US$100-120?

Thanks in advance. Apologies because I'm normally in the China / HK / Thailand / Malaysia / Singapore / Indonesia sections of this forum and my first time in Dubai. I will certainly learn how to appreciate these nice affordable 5 star hotels in South East Asia and China / HK from now on!

Kat Lover

03-11-05, 11:24

One observation. Seems that there isn't much of an african contingent after scanning through most of the threads here. Where do you reckon my best chances are? Not really keen on Thais, CIS or Chinese as I'm moving around South East Asia and China/HK most of the time.

Tom Jefferson

03-11-05, 17:12

@ KAT LOVER,

Did you try "www.wired-destinations.com"?

Got AP for 80 USD incl brekkie

Mad Hatter

03-13-05, 11:31

Having trouble accessing this board through dial-ups and internet cafes.

11Bravo: No offence meant by the janitor statement. Just something I observed.

Prices of everything is shooting up, rents, groceries etc etc.

Might have to go into the trade myself. he he he.

Lack of SWs these days. One place which has good looking SWs is behind the spinney's bur dubai.

p.s: All who have sent message for contact nos, will get back to you. Give me a little time.

Fly Guy 66

03-14-05, 00:44

Not having been back to Dubai for a couple of years, are there any good or new afternoon spots to pick up girls other than TGIF (which I see is still thriving!)?

Tony #1

03-14-05, 10:36

Firstly hello to all.

Tony #1

03-14-05, 11:40

I am from London, and all i can say is dubai is unbeleivable, i have been twice for my holidays and i am back in May. You local people out there are so lucky.

I stayed at the metropolitan beach resort which is miles away from the action but you can sneak in the ladies. Then the next time we satyed at the jumeira rotana in satwa which is girl friendly.

As already said TGIT is good for noon time. The women in there are very keen and as soon as me and my cousin walked in they were all over us grabbing us and that, i was loving it. Got to chinese birds went to an apartment nearby and shagged them, average service pretty boring. Anyway went back to the hotel got changed and dressed and went down to the downstairs bar.

Got pretty drunk, and hit the CYCLONE about 11 - 12.

Wow!! There must of been 200 women paid in and sat at some tables that said they were reserved. We were drinking cocktails and the guy kept coming to our table every 5 mins asking us what we wanted. Has anyone noticed the ugly security guard about 7 ft tall.

So anyway walking around scanning the ladies, saw 2 nice cis girls wanting 700 each, started to haggle and got it down to 500 each one for me and one for my cousin. Got back to our hotel and started having a good time with the girls, we started to have a few drinks which we got from the duty free and ordered a few club sandwiches the girls were very appreciative, i couldnt beleive how nice they were being GFE. Anyway i took mine we called her cheeky, because she was cheeky and liked to mess about which i liked. Had a shower sucking me off and all the rest, took her into the bed banged her all positions she was loving it as much as i was. I think i banged her about 4 times that night, took photos and the rest of it.

Important point is that we treated these girls pretty well and with a bit of respect, and they looked after us, so be nice to the girls and they'll be even nicer.

Will report about the other nights as soon as i get on the other computer. I am staying at the Grand Hyatt in May, i have emailed the hotel and they do allow guests at a cost. What is the club in there like MIX. Does any1 know??

Also a quick note to newbies who always ask for contacts. Once you are in Dubai within half an hour you will have all the contacts you need. Keep it safe and keep it real.

Oy a big hello from London to the DXB kings you know who you are . WOOO

What you pay in dxb is nothing compared to in England and the sevice in england is Shit. Dubai is wonderful man cant wait to May. I never went to premiere have to check ot out. Bravo keep up your posts.

Tony #1

03-14-05, 14:08

Wake up late, clear all the jonnies off the floor. Hve a shower get ready go to wild wadi, shopping and the rest of it. (Great shops out here to). Back at the bar in the hotel, its called boston bar gets busy but no working girls. Met some girls from ireland had a good chat and started to get friendly, but lost interest with them, and i was feeling the need for a bit of Cyclone therapy.

Instead went to York, went upstairs very busy quite a mix in there chinese africans and cis. I have been told to stay away from the blacks not being racist but just been told they were not to clean. Getting a bit late and decide to hit astoria, a club called pancho villas upstairs, had a good time there sitting down, on the couch calling girls over having a dance with them and basically having a good time.

The manager was german, and said we could drink and order what we wanted and settle the tab at the end of the night which was even better, felt like we were the mafia. But like i said we treated the girls with respect. I was thinking whether i could be bothered with a whole night job ,and decided on a st. Looking aroung and noticed many of the girls i liked had disappeared. So went out to the gents and saw to nice chinese girls, one in a green tight dress and the other in pink both with long sexy boots. I grabbed them and took them over to our table and told my uncle im taking these he squirted out his drink from his mouth and said "F**k that im taking 1 aswell" We both laughed and went to the girls apartments.

Not a nice place but wasnt to bothered because i was drunk, tired and could hardly get it up. So anyways bit of a rubbish service, but i did give her a good seeing to, she seemed to enjoy it more than me. She was moaning very loud, and really loving it her friend could hear the groans and moans, and entered our room to make sure her friend was alright. The one that i was banging told her mate to leave , and said she was fine. Her friend might of thought i was fighting her but i was just banging it as hard as i could hahaha and boy was she loving it. Any way i cummed and stayed in the bed for 15-20 mins and she started on me again. I couldnt be botherd so i just a got a nice blo job. And left. Got in the cab and left.

Another thing buy your own quality condoms.

Day 3.
Sat at the pool most of the day drinking Vodka redbulls, and just relexing with the other 4 in our group having a laugh. Decided to do some shopping went to the gold souks. Then had a meal great food here too, and good value. Full up had a bit of a nap got ready showered and shaved put some nice smart clothes and met up with the boys at the bar about 9. Had a few drinks got quite merry every1 charged up and ready for some pu**y.

Went to cyclone had a good time talking to a lot of cis (they are a bit more than the Chinese). Couldnt really find anything i really liked and i wanted a special one. Saw many 6 and 7's. But i wanted a stunner. So i saw these 2 women about 30 im only 26, but they looked sexy. Went over and said hello, started a conversation.,

All laughing and they're complimenting me on my dress and how nice i smell the usual bullshit. Lets get down to business i say how much for a long time, hit me with 1000. ' i give u good fuck and suck' Im like nahh yr alright. I l find someone else. Im not tight but i enjoy the chase. So meet with the lads sat in the tables reserved area.

Talking and just having a general chat saying how brilliant dubai really is. There seemed to be a couple of fat russian bastards smoking fat cigars they looked like some big hitters. I was looking at 1 he looked at me i nodded and he just looked away i guess these guys have something to do with the controlling of some of the women. So go on the prowl again talking to any nice looking girl, like i said for me this is part of the buzz chatting and haggling.

So see this cute girl from chechnia(mind the spelling). Tight white pants and sexy top, black eye liner trying to look like an arab.

Basically i liked her and said how much got it down to 700 i thought it was worth it. Had this sexy leaperd skin underwear. Same old shower fucked her she was great and enjoyed it blo job all positions no probs. Had a shower and the rest of it. My cousin was in the other bed and the girl he was with turned out to be a right *****.

She was just watching me and my girl, my cousin went to bed couldnt be botherd with her. WEhere i was having a great time. she left at about 9 gave me her number and off she went. Woke up about 2ish, and found about 400 dirhams had gone missing from my cousins table. It could only of been the ***** that he was with.(So be careful).

Does any1 know a girl there called Florina, shes quite tall, slim nice tits and a great J.lo arce. She hangs with this other girl with dark curly hair. These 2 are great and like to have fun. Hghly recommend sorry no contacts. But like i posted earlier dont need contacts Dubai is thriving with PU**Y.

Any 1 who is new to DXB must check cyclone. I cant wait till May.

Looking forward to checking regal, premiere and the rest. Like i asked before if any1 knows anything about MIX in grand hyatt. Any info would be appreciated,

Tony #1

03-14-05, 18:01

I am a British Indian, and was reading another guy from England got a bit of racism. I will be honest I did not have any at all. But what tends to happen is most girls are fine, but on the odd occasion you will go up to a girl say hello, and she'll look at you like what do you want.

Then they'll say you from india, and i'll be like no London England and they wont beleive you until you show a copy of your UK passport then there like all over you. I didnt mind this but saying that there is a racist aspect to that in itself. But dont bo too put off money is king to these women.

We went to the place in Panarama, I think thats Jockeys. This place is pretty smal and the women were not as tasty, but some ok women. We went to the dubai marine hotel, on the beach we met 2 other women from our hotel, and all decided to go there. There were some nice looking women there but you could tell they were in a differant league and would be asking for silly money, and its all very cosmopolitan, nothing like artoria york or cyclone. I would say I had a better time with the CIS than the chinese they were just a bit more frward, but I like to have a mix and there is plenty of variety in Dubai.

We had a great time with the 2 birds we had from cyclone after our night of fun, the girls said they wanted to meet at wild wadi, and have some fun there. We never took them on that.

Day four - went to TGIT, for a nooney, just the 2 of us some loud americans sat at the bar making tits of themselves. so we walk in girls grabbing our arces cocks, hugging us the ot felt like some sort of superstar. Sat down in the booth got a beer had a cig talking to my cousin looking around the place but just chilling out. Had another beer women keep coming up to us and fondling just said not interested yet. In walks thins stunner. She starts a smopking a cig, we exchange eye contact i blink at her and she smiles. I call her over she looks away. I go over statrt chatting says 300 for a short time, i say i only have 200 (bit of bullshit). She says ok lets go go to her apartment stasrts sucking me off she was dressed in tight black sexy little *****. Starts sucking me off doing all the biz, i start doggy style, fucking her hard, she's enjoying it im fucking loving it. Because it was early didnt want to hang about to long, had to meet the rest of the lads.

So basically i take the jonny off and and start banging my dick in her mouth, and i cummed all over her face LOL hahahahah. What a sight, i couldnt beleive it she didnt mind, She was ready for another go. i couldne be bothered had no time, still couldnt beleive the cum shot (hahaha). So i leave the apartment laughing to myself go back to the hotel. And relax in the pool, just thinking what the poor girl i was with up to. I have a fealing she was washing her face ready for her next punter hahah WOOO HOOO. next post tomorrrow

Sporadic

03-14-05, 23:28

Been in London long Tony?

Tony #1

03-15-05, 11:07

I was born in Leeds (North England). Work in London past 2 years.

Why do you ask? Have you been over?

Tony #1

03-15-05, 16:53

Does anyone know wether the Mix in the Grand Hyatt has got any action?

Whats it like?

Frank Furious

03-16-05, 01:43

About Mix,

Mix is nogood unless you turn up with a girl on your arm, as otherwise they won't let you in.

Best turn up with a nice CIS and then they'll have to let you in. Pick up someone from the club and fuck both of them I say.

That doesn't answer your question, and I don't know if it has good action - but I bet it does.

Grand Hyatt is also near to Cyclone.

Feliz

03-21-05, 18:26

Thanks guys for the info here, it's really useful. Too bad the board can't be accessed from UAE.

Anyway, I was with a business group in Dubai and one night got a bit bored with them. So at 1:30 I zipped off to Rockafellas which was crammed. There were not too many great looking girls there but enough anyway. I talked to a couple of them who looked great but seemed very dull otherwise. A smiling good looking stylish girl from one of the 'stans got my attention. Somehow I like the 'stan girls more than Chinese. She also liked me and wanted to meet up with me the next day. I asked her to come with me to the hotel and she was willing without mentioning money. Anyway I wanted to get things straight and asked how much - she said it's up to me, and I offered 300 (for LT). She was happy with that and was very eager in bed. I also got a wake up with CIM and she wanted to meet up later for more (for free) but I think the point with these girls is that you pay them and don't have to see them again? She told me she usually charges 500-1000 , and does not like Arabs who she's heard can be violent.

Another evening I accidentally visited York and hated it - it seemed like a real low-quality place, it was really difficult fo see anyone I would have liked and the punters seemed to be low-level workers looking for a cheap f**k. Probably not great for STD prevention?

The nicest club I went to was Trilogy. When I was walking to the entrance I noticed a gorgeous African girl waiting in the queue and started talking to her. She was very stylish and had an amazing figure - turned out be enhanced - as she was a model in East Africa. We spent the night exploring the place and she was happy to come to my hotel. She was fabulous in bed, sucking me all over and very enthusiastic and communicative. She was also a very nice personality, not a pro and never asked for money (and I didn't give her either). We met up also the following night and had more fun.

So it seemed it's really easy for a nice-looking European to pick up willing girls in Dubai. Since there have been some negative remarks about Africans here I must say there are also civilised and nice persons there!

Laadla

03-22-05, 06:29

Dear all,

Have to start coming to Dubai on work and wanted to know how we can access the Guide from Dubai. Have tried but unable to as site blocked.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Laadla

Joyboy

03-23-05, 23:07

These are the details of my second mongering experience in an AMP at Dubai which took place quite a few months back. After the disappointing experience at AMP in Abu Dhabi (read my first FR posted in Abu Dhabi section for details), had to wait for an opportunity to travel to Dubai for action. Wait for a weekend and then decide to takeoff on Thursday afternoon to Dubai. Reached Dubai and called up a few numbers from the ads found in the newspaper. Found no answer to the calls I made to at least 3 numbers. Was frustrated and thought of giving it up. Decided to call up the numbers again and bingo there was a response on one of the number.

Told them I was interested in a massage session and asked for location. Location given was near Spinney’s Bur Dubai, but could not follow the accent very clearly as the lady cut off the phone immediately. Tried calling again and found no response. Was getting worried and thought it might be a scam. Anyway decided to reach the area near Spinney’s and try again. Went to the area and called up again. Got a response only after a few calls. Probably the Boss trying to establish that I was genuinely interested customer. Directions were again a bit confusing and finally after quite a search managed to locate the place.

On ringing the bell, the door opened slightly and was pulled in immediately and door closed. Immediately found 4 ladies there. Based on reports earlier in the forum, understood this was a parade to select the lady. The ladies were mostly 6’s. Decided to select one lady with a nice rack. Later on learn that her name is Xi Xi. She takes me to the room and looks very happy that I have selected her. She asks for payment in advance to be made to the Boss. Hand over the payment of 100 dhs. She goes out for a few minutes to hand over the payment, during which time I am ready for her.

She comes back and She immediately starts hugging me. Has a look at Mr Happy and after a lot of cuddling/petting, settle down and asks what type of massage required and the tips. I quote her 100 dhs. She is satisfied and wants the money in advance. Pay her immediately and the action moves on to more of GFE than massage with a lot of playing around including DFK. But I found her to be faking a lot of moans and groans. Have a BBBJ, titfuck, followed by a DATY (do not know how she felt as she was faking a lot of sounds). Try to mount her, but she says no FS. Will only allow FS after 5/6 visits.

This was followed by further lot of cuddling, petting the whole session is more of a GFE. She starts saying that she likes me a lot, is my Dubai wife etc. Later on she tells somehow she connected with me even though it is the first time. Tries a second round of BBBJ and handjob, but no success. Finally ended up the hour without any massage, but lot of playing around including DFK. Session ends, but no shower etc as the time was mostly up. She apologises for not making me finish.Wants to know when I would come back.

Ask her for her number, but she says she has no contact number and contact should be only through her Boss. Rating – Girl 6, BBBJ Average. Massage – cannot comment as never had it. Overall experience good except for the presumably fake moans/groans and the fact that no FS provided. Total Damages 200 dhs. After analyzing the experience now, I feel that a good learning experience, but may not be inclined to repeat as some of the responses from her seemed a bit artificial and the logic for FS seemed to put me off.

Tercar 66

03-24-05, 11:09

Kat Lover

03-24-05, 13:29

Thanks for all the help with the leads and also the hotels in Dubai.

I was there last week for 3 nights. First off, the hotels are very expensive. I paid US$120 for a room at the 3-star Admiral Plaza. I think its crazy

Anyway, being from South East Asia, I made it a point to go for more exotic meat, meaning Africans, Turks and Lebanese women. I have had much better quality china and Mongolian girls in China, Uzbek and Russians in Bangkok etc etc etc so no point going for same same here in Dubai.

Dropped into Spinneys the first night and picked up a fine looking Ethophian girl (I think her name was Mimi) very lithe but firm body with great tones. Seeing her naked really turned me on. Damage was 400 Durhams for the whole night. I still cant forget that very tight body of hers.

Next evening dropped by York to try and save some money. Yeah, quality seemed a little low. Yet despite that I met a very lovely lady from Kenya. She seemed to be a mix of black and white parentage. Face was nicely exotic but again that African body. In all my mongering in Asia, never have I seen bodies as tight and firm and well toned as these African ladies. Their tits seem to perk up in a particular way which I really love. Took her back for an overnighter for 300 Durhams.

The doorman at the Admiral Plaza was starting to get amazed at this chinese guy (me) coming back each evening with a black beauty.

Apparently he was not the only one. Quite a few Africans stay there as well at the Admiral and I think some of them noticed it too. The next morning after Miss Kenya left, I was having breakfast downstairs when a couple of young african girls staying there started throwing glances and giggling among themselves.

While i was inspecting the breakfast buffet, one of them was also doing the same thing. We crossed each other and she almost casually remarked 'Is the wade good?' referring to the Indian fried doughnuts. I told her it was great.

'I notice you have plenty of African girlfriends...' oops! I asked if we could share tables and sat down with the 2 of them for breakfast. By the way I'm not the short and fat variety of Chinese businessman. I'm of Chinese descent from South East Asia at 1.75m and pretty ok looking guy.

Found out that these 2 ladies were from Somalia and in Dubai with their parents for a 2 week holiday while their father was busy doing business in Jebel Ali. The elder sister was Done (Doni?) and the younger one Sela. Both looked to be in their very early 20's.

Seems like their mom was enforcing an extremely tight curfew on them at night without any chance to go out to the night clubs.

Their mom came down eventually. Very nice lady at about 100kg. Food aside, I really enjoyed my breakfast. This was my first time in UAE and being a Sunday, although its a working day in Dubai, I was free the entire day as the rest of the world outside UAE was enjoying sabbath.

I was planning actually to just stay in the room and watch TV until the mongering activities in the evening. They would not hear of such a thing and brought me around to the shopping plazas and other interesting places.

We spent the morning in Diera exploring the spice and textile souks. Dropped by the wharf to check on the dhow boat their dad had chartered...... man it was a sight to behold deckhands loading up the wooden boat with toilet bowls, machine parts, tyres etc etc etc Seems that their Dad was on one of his regular buying trips and shipping everything back to Somalia in these traditional boats. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I didnt get to meet him.

They booked a desert safari trip and included me. I went under protest as I understand that this safari thing lasts from 3.30pm till around 9.45pm

I was wrong. The desert safari was one of the best day tours I have ever tried in my life. Drove the 4 of us in a Toyota Land Cruiser out to near Oman and it was an exhilirating couple of hours bashing the giant sand dunes. The fine sand was actually cold to our bare feet and the desert sunset was gorgeous.

We were then driven at sundown (7+pm) to a desert camp and had a pretty good bbq dinner. Smoked a traditional huka pipe and it was surprisingly delicious. All this was capped off with a belly dance. I was told that the girl was Lebanese. She was a knockout. I had a hard on just looking at that beautiful face and body gyrate and vibrate in the cold desert air. If Lebanese women looked half as good as this belly dancer, I couldnt wait to get back to the hotel and hit Cyclone and find one for myself for the night!

It was almost 10pm by the time we reached the Admiral. Truthfully, I had a blast with the ladies that day. I dont know if its like this with Africans but their kindness and hospitality really was red hot.

For the 2 girls, it was straight to bed every night at 10pm in their own room next to Mum's room. We'd all gotten pretty close after spending a day together..... even Mum! So I invited EVERYONE over to my room to play cards or computer games on my laptop. Mum didnt seem to mind the whiskey and vodka I had and pretty soon we were smashed. The girls brought over a boombox they'd bought earlier that day at Lamsy (?) Plaza and with African party music setting up the situation, they were showing me some moves of their own.

I thought I'd seen blacks dance from all the MTV videos of american black performers, but Somalian grooves was totally out of this world. Part tribal part hip hop part I-dunno-what.

Mum got a little wasted by 1am and retired back to her own room with these words 'Remember lahdies! U can enjoy yourselves here but NO GOING OUT!!!'

'OK Mam!'

Mum did call once to my room to check that her girls were 'in ordah and not causing u any trouble'

With mum out of the way, soon the inevitable question came up 'want to smoke some weed?' I couldnt believe my ears and my luck! I didnt have any stuff with me and one of them went down with 100 durhams and came back in 5 minutes with 3 joints.... I think it was pretty expensive but what the hell. We lit up after checking that mum was sound asleep downstairs in her room.

We were jumping up and down and jamming it to some really great music. Soon they started to really let it all hang out. Off came their tops and seeing them dance in their bras and jeans had me taking mine off in double quick time.

They were getting more daring and funnier by the minute! In a half serious half joking manner, Done asked me if it was true Chinese guys had tiny cocks!!!!!!! Man that was a very personal insult to me!!!! Totally smashed I told them to find out for themselves.

I'm not well hung but at 5 3/4 inches I think I'm ok. 'U are too naughty! U get us drunk like this and now you accuse me of having a tiny cock???!!!'

Sela tried to hide her face from the embarassment and just screamed into the pillow that her sister could even ask such a question.

'Well, let us see' pleaded Done. Pissed drunk I jumped off the bed told her 'Welcome to Chinatown!' as I unzipped by fly.

She jumped off the bed and walked upright to me staring me in the eyes. Her black african face with beautiful tear-drop huge eyes looked right into me and her full dark lips parted as she frenched me while her other hands pulled my jeans down and gripped both my ass cheeks.

'Done!!!! What are u doing????!!! Hee hee hee!!!' Sela was now in shock.

'Sela, come, help me show our friend (hic!) how we Somalians love!'

Jesus mighty Christ, what happened over the next 2 hours was some of the most intense passionate foreplay and sex I have ever experienced in my entire life.

This was the first time both of them have had a Chinese guy and they were giggling over my engorged brown cock with its red head 'Its so cuuuttteeeee!'

I came within 10 minutes of both of them giving me a tag team bbbj. By some miracle of God, they had me up and erect again within 45 minutes.

I regret it now, but I forgot to put on a rubber for round 2 and I fucked both of them raw coming eventually into Sela.

By the time they cleaned themselves up, it was just past 4am. I helped them to their rooms downstairs as they were zig-zagging all over the place.

Next morning (Monday) I dressed up and went down with my lap top hoping to catch a quick breakfast and going to my appointment at Internet City. Ran ino Mum! 'I hope the girls did not keep you up too late last night? They're still in bed'

'No' I lied. I really liked Mum. She was one friendly and cool lady. Afraid that I'd miss them later that day I gave her a few of my business cards and insisted that they call or email me if they're ever going to be in Singapore any time. I had a late departure leaving Dubai that night.

Mum gave me a tight bear hug 'Its been really nice knowing you young man. Daniel (her husband) will be back tomorrow morning and I really wish you could have met him, I know he'll like you'

That day I didnt get to see Done or Sela and left for the airport with a heavy heart. With the balance of quite a few Durhams in my pocket (I had actually budgeted it for the last night hoping to score with a Lebanese or other such exotic lady) I spent it on tickets for the Lamborgini and the Yamaha superbike at the Dubai airport duty free luxury car lotteries.

You guys in Dubai are so lucky!

Worf1972

03-24-05, 20:38

But you need to be careful, you are in a Arabic country remember that fact. I can't believe that hotel is so liberal, can anyone else comment on this?

Kat Lover

03-25-05, 02:52

Yes, the Admiral Plaza is liberal, for a price.

They charge 50durhams for overnight guests who also need to leave a copy of passport at the counter.

Fly Guy 66

03-29-05, 07:36

Please can someone point me in the right direction for where the best places are to pick up middle eastern girls, true middle eastern girls that is not just turks etc claiming to be?

Thanks

Fanculetti

03-30-05, 10:23

Hi all,

After sometime I am coming back to Dubai for a quick stop over (one, or at best, two nights). Could you give the best advices? I am looking for some real stunners: CIS and/or africans (mainly ethiopians or somalians). What I am looking for is a real mixture of GFE and hot hot ladies willing to pass with me good time (why not two girls at the same time?). Real stunners and very-very horny only.

So far, I know only Cyclone (not bad at all) but this time I'd like to follow your advices. What do you suggest? Please consider that I'll be around on Saturday night (landing at 1 am) and that I will stay for the whole day of Sunday taking another flight on Sunday morning (early).

Please give me advices on the hotel as well. Private posts with concrete suggestions are most welcomed.

Fanculetti

Tercar 66

04-01-05, 09:26

Mr Fanculetti,

As per your taste you have 2 choices other than cyclone. You can get your upmarket choice in Staying alive club in Hotel Imerial suites and York nightclub in Hotel York for down market chicks. You can stay in these hotels too but I am not sure if these hotels are girl friendly. You can go thru all the posts and I am sure you will find the right hotel.

ExpatCat

04-02-05, 05:18

Fanculetti,Tercar,

This is the first time I've heard Staying Alive at the Imperial called 'Upmarket'. Am I missing something ? ? :)
If you really want to slum it, try the 'Garage' in the Ramee Hotel. A great dive which occasionally has a gem or two. Otherwise, the familiar Cyclone, York, Imperial, Regal Plaza or the Premier (Hyatt Regency) in no particular order. If you include Rumours in the Ramada, the first three are within walking/ starggering distance of each other.
During the day, TFIF in Astoria should fulfil a need. . .

F,
RTFF for further details on Hotels that are 'girl friendly'. There's a recent submission that will help on the Dubai Hotels thread.

Good hunting

Expatcat

Sporadic

04-02-05, 14:54

General obsevations:

1. Prices seem higher... I had a very attractive CIS at Imp.Suites tell me the price for all night was 1000dhs before 2am and 500 after 2am. While a 2am departure with this sweety would not be out of the question for 500, I thought that the non-negotiable 1000 was a bit OTT for the suites.

2. No cyclone this trip, did not miss it a bit.

3. Rockafellas charges EVERYONE on Wednesdays and Thursdays, you do get a drink with this though. Talent was excellent.

4. Remember how hard it used to be to get a taxi during DSF ? Well it is like that every day now. Traffic everyday (not just the week-end) is gridlock from 5-9 pm.

5. First visit to Jockey´s. Some decent talent available, but there were at least 6-8 women there who were seriously fat and or ugly. They must sell a very special pair of beer goggles there.

6. Some things never change, York is still York.

7. Nice to meet a couple gents from the forum, put some faces to the names. Cheers gents!

8. Passed on calling the famous L (like I normally do.) No great loss there either. I was well entertained during my visit, and though she is special, did not feel any loss.

9. CID is pressuring the hotels to register visiting "guests" of their guests. It was described as a "black points" system that leads to some serious fines and general unhappiness with the hotel. This may certainly have an effect on girl friendliness in the future.

10. I swear I saw a couple Fillipinas! It was not possible to confirm price with them as they were "engaged" as it were, but the friendly bar staff confirmed they were on the game. This will be persued by yours truly!

Cheers,

Sporadic

Tercar 66

04-03-05, 11:30

Sporadic,

Where do you get Philipinas in Dubai? I tried hard but could not find. I was told that there is a night club called Ratsky in Karama hotel, where a few are available. In case you have any contact number pls send me a private message.

El Pedrino

04-03-05, 20:41

CID is pressuring the hotels to register visiting "guests" of their guests. It was described as a "black points" system that leads to some serious fines and general unhappiness with the hotel. This may certainly have an effect on girl friendliness in the future.In ancient Rome or the ancient world for that matter, the bearer of bad news, be he a proper herald or a mere commoner was as damnable and abhorred as the source or originator of said bad news.

And the Dubai authorities pressuring hotels to consistently register visiting hookers is very bad news for the monger indeed. So not only is Sporadic condemned to 100 one-handed pushups, he’s also to enlighten this board with few further details. For example, does CID have the wherewithal and clout to pressure huge conglomerate, luxury hotels to abide by its directives, or will the Sheratons and Meridiens tell CID to go fuck itself or a decent hooker at that?

The small potato, family operated hotels register and charge visitors anyhow, moreover, they’re too chicken shit not to comply in the first place. Now the big hotels beginning to insist on registering hookers can be ruinous to say the least. This procedure may have dire consequences and implications for the frequent traveler who indulges in the hobby each and every visit.

Say the hooker who was registered under your room number is arrested not long after you had dinner at the Y for possession or any other offence, maybe CID might like to have a chat with you cause they have your number. Go a step further and say she gets murdered not long after she sucked you, CID will surely wanna have a chat with you now, and they won’t lose your number.

For the one time visitor, this won’t mean a lot, but for the frequent monger, the frequent registrations which associate hooker and monger will build sequential data that will develop into an interpretive and maybe incriminating piece of information. Especially if the registered visitors are amongst the usual suspects of the trade.

Prices seem higher... I had a very attractive CIS at Imp.Suites tell me the price for all night was 1000dhs before 2am and 500 after 2am. While a 2am departure with this sweety would not be out of the question for 500, I thought that the non-negotiable 1000 was a bit OTT for the suites.

Folks, mongering price structures in Dubai present a complex issue. Moreover and regrettably, the price quoted is not only influenced by the quality of the pro and time frame, but invariably by the ethnicity and skin color of the monger. For anyone who knows Dubai, the latter is indisputable, this Emirate’s prejudice proclivity has infected the pros it hosts in general.

So the “attractive CIS at Imp. Suites” might very well quote Feliz 400 AED LT, and Sporadic 1000 AED LT (the ratio would always remain intact when one factors in before or after midnight).

So unless the Dubai bound monger factors in all the variables that rule this great city’s price apparatus, a mere observation as to the appreciation or depreciation of prices vis a vis adjustments for inflation will always be grossly unreliable. Tell me of what racial denomination you are and I’ll tell you what will it cost within the slimmest margin or error.

Sporadic

04-04-05, 09:13

Pedrino
the bearer of bad news, be he a proper herald or a mere commoner was as damnable and abhorred as the source or originator of said bad news.Interesting prose style, reminds me of someone, or more correctly two personas.

For example, does CID have the wherewithal and clout to pressure huge conglomerate, luxury hotels to abide by its directives, or will the Sheratons and Meridiens tell CID to go fuck itself or a decent hooker at that? The person who mentioned this point system to me made liberal use of the word discretion. IMHO the CID has more than enough clout to deal with a hotel chain, any hotel chain.

a mere observation as to the appreciation or depreciation of prices vis a vis adjustments for inflation will always be grossly unreliable.My observation is based upon pricing quoted by providers at several venues over the last couple of years. I have not recently changed ethnicity so I rather doubt that was a factor. My suggestion is that it may have more to do with increasing numbers of customers in the prime demographic of middle-aged white/European businessmen.

To test your theory of pricing, please tell me what the pricing would be for a Cyclone-based CIS stunner if the customer was a midget albino hasidic Jew?
;)

Cheers,

Sporadic

El Pedrino

04-04-05, 11:28

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

El Pedrino

04-04-05, 16:35

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Sporadic

04-05-05, 09:07

I will grant your pricing model is near perfection, the last time I hit cyclone with the midget albino, he indeed had to pay 2010 Dhs, well within your margin of error!

Astounding.

Cheers,

Sporadic

NoCBJ4Me

04-05-05, 18:57

Has anyone found a back door way to view the forum in UAE. I kept getting "This site is blocked"?

Bizzie

04-05-05, 22:41

Hey Sporadic,
I beleive that I was in DXb at the same time, and may have met you through a local members but unfortunately hd a friend come and visit me who ruined the entire night.
I also skipped Cyclone where it was DHS 1000/night for average to above average lookers, even back in October.
It was not like that in early 2004, regardless of the skin color.

York? Yeah, the same. Did get a pornstar-like performance from a slightly overpriced CIS, but the performance would likely offset that (at least that's what I tell myself!).
Ordered in from E (through a member) for the next night, because the damn smoke in the bars just kills me after a couple of nights. Great Service!! That chicke was bewildered at what a couple of little vibrators can do to her. She thought she was gonna die (so she said)!!

I too smell the return of the asswipe. Although it's tempting, but the only way to get rid of the vermon is to ignore.

El Pedrino

04-06-05, 01:44

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Franco

04-06-05, 08:49

I am going to visit Dubai for my very first time by end of this month. I will be staying at Madinat Jumeirah / Mina Al Salam.

Any brother could tell me if there is action around the hotel ? or even in the hotel ?
Is the hotel girl friendly ?

Thanks a lot

Franco

My Kapitan

04-06-05, 13:09

El padrino, this forum is about mongering and providing useful info to other fellow mongerers. Leave the blow torch at home and just stick to having a good time. If the girls want to charge you 1000+ maybe they dont want your business - live with it and find someone who will meet your budget.
Personally I like CIS's (blonde) and the price is always 3-500 all night, and for me the regal is the best - especially with the new band. Each to his own.

El Pedrino

04-06-05, 17:23

El Pedrino

04-06-05, 18:44

Has anyone found a back door way to view the forum in UAE
Yes. There are two downloadable free programs that are designed to circumvent institutional and governmental cyber censorship. The first one is called Hopster, it can be downloaded at www.hopster.com. Mind you though, with Hopster if you go with the free version you’ll get a lot of popup ads and a slow connection. The better free deal is with a program called Your Freedom, downloadable at http://www.your-freedom.net/index.pl/en/home.ht. Since the latter program is in beta testing mode, it’s absolutely free and runs like hookers from the cops. The only caveat, you’ve to register.

Finally, since the good old adage “there’s no free lunch” is always in play, you’ve to fiddle a bit with your browser’s configuration and have a version of Java 1.4 up and operational. Of course if you’re not IT challenged, you’ll have your free lunch and take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on gulf states’ censorship.

Adventure Plus

04-07-05, 10:09

Thanks Jackson, finally got access to forum as regular member. I was reading the forum for the last 5 to 6 months and have been through useful information and tips.

I have been visiting Dubai every month for the last 3 years, due to nature of my business, stay in Dubai was never more than 3 or 4 days. But I have some good experience as far as CIS is concerned.

I will be arriving Dubai tomorrow and will be staying there for 2 nights, any body interested to have drinks with me or a cup of coffee, pls do send me PM so that we can catch up at some place.

Adventure Plus

Flying Scot

04-07-05, 22:26

runs like hookers from the cops. Brilliant, laughed my ass off when I read thhis, had to clean coffee off my computer screen!

Heading to town soon, whats the crack with the cid in the hotels etc. I've never had a problem but always have a girl or two every night. Dont want to attract to much attention? Any views?

Zero

04-08-05, 07:35

Hello fellow monger in Dubai,
I finally coming to Dubai next week.
Due to last minute arrangement, I can't flip through this thread to get infos.
So, I need you guys the experienced monger in Dubai to give me info.
I'll be staying at Oasis court hotel/apartement with my partner.
Unfortunately, he doesn't know my hobby, and can't know about it.
So, it leave me tiny window to monger.
Anyway, I don't think that I can visit the great cyclone, TGIT, etc this time.
Maybe I can squeeze some time in the afternoon for a nooner.
but I think it has to be an in-call at the girls apartement.
My main hunt would be CIS girls, however if that's not posible
a nice and clean african also workable. No Chinese cause have that a lot at Jakarta.
Any info would be greatly appreciated, I'll promise for great FR after the trip.
Thank you

Sporadic

04-08-05, 12:13

Flying Scot
Heading to town soon, whats the crack with the cid in the hotels etc. My sense is that while cid may be in a position to nail you, they most probably would not unless you were making a complete fool of yourself in the lobby.

If they really wanted everything shut down, they have the power to do so, but we all know that DXB prides itself on being business friendly. Too much scratch is generated to completely shut things down.

The only advice is to be discreet, just like always.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Valiant2

04-09-05, 06:26

The reason why this site cannot be accessed from Dubai is because the forum name has been changed from wsgforum to *************. All sites with the word sex is blocked in UAE. The ony way is if Mr Jackson finds some way that people can view and post thread thru wsgforum or unlike Argentina a different link can be given to mongers and travellers in UAE.Since the name change, the major ISP in Kuwait has blocked access. WSG was very generic and didn't raise any red flags. ************* does. So far, the ISP I am using at work hasn't caught on to the name change.

Irish Lad

04-11-05, 11:07

Hello everyone,

I am returning to Dubai from the 14th until the 24th April.

As my favourites are CIS, especially Ukrainians, my usual bars will be Jules, KuBu and will try Jockeys for the first time.

Night clubs will be Cyclone, Premiere and Rockafellas.

Am I missing anything?

Cheers

Irish Lad

ExpatCat

04-12-05, 05:13

Since the name change, the major ISP in Kuwait has blocked access. WSG was very generic and didn't raise any red flags. ************* does. So far, the ISP I am using at work hasn't caught on to the name change.

On a lighter note,
I had problems in Bahrain a few years back before they removed the proxy. I was trying to get information regarding the Superbowl 30. The bloody ISP blocked it because it was "Superbowl XXX". I also heard that a library in England set up a block of all sites using 'sex' and then found that, as a library in Middlesex, it had blocked itself. Clever stuff, eh ?
So far my ISP is clear. For how long, no one knows. If there is any chance of getting DXB back online I would welcome it. I, for one, miss the musings of Bravo & JSF.

Looking forward to my next visit to DXB in May.

Cheers,

Expatcat

Worf1972

04-12-05, 08:22

THEY are posting and going strong on a bangok board that is not block. Because the title of the website doesn't have the word "SEX" in it, the proxy doesn't effect it.
But the catch is, one would have to have a link invitation from an existing member to go to the website.

SO if any of you have the personal e-mail addresses of any Dubai mafia, they will send you a link. If you read back on the postings, things started to get ugly here. JSF was attacked on the board by a member who he gave contacts to in Dubai. This member used his REAL NAME ON THE BOARD. In addition, a few stupid idiots posted the girls names, faces, massage houses (apartments ) on this and other boards !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Resulting in CONTACTS THAT JSF HAD FOR years to being raided.
Being arrested for hooking as a women in an Arabic Country is HORRIBLE.
So after these events, precaution is being taken to who gets contacts and info. now.

Bl Joy

04-12-05, 13:16

Hi,

Any news about F's & her girls? Now a days I am see-ing any posts from king of dubai JSF. He really gave some good contacts like F, G, etc.

I heard many indian modes come to Dubai for modelling assigment, and do some part time job. Anybody has come across them?

Regards,

Joy

Sporadic

04-12-05, 21:20

El Suave:
hometown’s paysan farms.The word you are looking for is "paisan."

You have an amazing ability to combine information with vitriol.

Come on smooth one, how about a little noblesse oblige?

Sporadic

El Suave

04-13-05, 06:44

All right, you got me there. Regardless of this word’s origins, one should use the English form. Be that what it may, I believe you yourself have noblesse in you Sporadic and always shown restraint via temperate repartees and posts.

Whether my gesture is reciprocated or not, I’m nevertheless making my peace with you and do regret any harsh reproaches directed your way in the past. You‘ll no longer hear from me.

Sporadic

04-13-05, 19:12

Gents,

F has a new phone number. Those of you who only have the old one can contact jsf by email to get the new one.

F´s house has four ladies not counting F herself. I can personally vouch for every one of them.

JSF still is having problems accessing the forum, hopefully solved soon.

Pm for details.

Cheers,

Sporadic

BraveBoy79

04-14-05, 23:02

Long time since I posted anything, have been just an ardent reader of this forum. Recently back in action at York and Regal. Both my favourite places. For past several weeks there is increased activity at and around Shoemart/Alain center areas. This Thursday I counted and resulting number was 35 ladies looking for partners. Mostly Chinese, some Africans but one or two CIS. Thats not their playing field. Anyway, went inside York, I still like this place compared to Regal because of its environment. At Regal one can die of suffocation from smoke coming out.

Took a few rounds inside York and picked a Russian chic, her name Tania, should be around 7 overall. Her boss quoted 500, tried my luck by saying 300, she said OK. I was bit surprised (and also uncomfortable!) but deal is a deal. Took her home, she seemed new, didn't know English at all (except 'What is your name?). Funny thing she kept talking in Russian constantly despite me telling that I don't know a bit of your language. I was laughing at her attitude. Got home and found her extremely responsive, natural and great GF experience. Either she was shy or acting so naturally that it was real. After great first session we slept deep sleep. She just kept clinging to me whole night and kept of kissing and rubbing my chest. Morning started with another good session. Overall service rating was 9 or maybe 10.

Looking for F's contact, I have been using earlier last year. JSF if you are reading this, grateful if you can PM me.

Sporadic

04-15-05, 20:12

Gents,

If any of you want to get in touch with JSF, send me a pm with an email contact and I will pass it on to JSF.

Hopefully, Mr. J will soon have a solution for those "excluded" from the forum.

JSF asked me to pass on that he is sorry he cannot respond to Pm´s, owing to circumstances beyond his control.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Mahku

04-17-05, 17:02

Popped into York last night. No cover charge. The best quality there seemed to be East Africans, but since I may be going to Ethiopia in the next week I decided to look for Chinese instead. There weren't many good ones around last night but I eventually found a little cute one named So Xie (spelling?). She was good fun so I took her over to Seaview Inn to see the band there, whichi one of the better ones in Dubai. Chinese girls are funny when they dance. They've got no rhythm whatsoever, especially after I was recently with Colombian and African women. But they still manage to be sexy.

Finally got back to the room at the Rihab Rotana (500 for the night including taxes, DAMN Dubai is gettint expensive). But at least the parking garage entrance means no problems about guest friendliness.

She gave a good blowjob on the chocolate comdom and lusty boom boom over the next couple of hours. It was 400 all night with her. I think you can find So Xie in York on most nights. She'll be one of the smallest girls in the bar. She said she's from Sichuan, the spicy food part of China.

Ass to Adore

04-18-05, 03:05

Hi,

I went to Dubai last year in May and am going to return for another week this year in May. Thanks to Boofer I had the pleasure to be with Lada last year. She was a gorgeous and very sexy woman to be with and I enjoyed every second of it.
Wondering if anybody knows if she is still around (go to the photo section of last year to see a pic that boofer posted)?

In case any of you know other women of her class I'd be happy to receive their contact numbers.

Thanks and looking forward to come back to Dubai.

A2A.

Zero

04-18-05, 06:19

Hello guys,
I just got back from the lovely & surprisingly liberal city of Dubai.
.....was right, Dubai is a great modern city, but lack of the warm.
Anyhow, I had a great time there eventhough zero experience in mongering.
As I told you, I travel with my partner, we share room so it seriously hinder my hobby.
Let me 1st tell you about my Hotel/Apartment, Oasis Court.
The hotel is good condition, clean, and well maintain,
but the plus side of this hotel is the location.
Located near Burjurman mall, it easily within walking distance to the girls apartment
and 4 major venue such as York, TGIT, Imperial.
So why zero experience you say?
Well I had a couple near misses that I failed to capitalize.
1st, on 12 am last Friday, I did manage to sneak-out of the hotel to find girls.
I was fortunate enough to get a friendly taxi driver named Malik from India
( BTW is it just me or Taxi experience in DXB is eerily similar to NY )
I told him to go Cyclone, on the way to it, we have a little chit-chat about girl.
He suggest to me that instead of going to Cyclone and spending at least 500 dirham + cover charge
Why don't I just go to the girls apartment that he know for merely 150-200 dirham.
I said great then, and off we go. The girls apartment is actually right next to my hotel
Even better I said. Unfortunately, if it too good to be true, it usually is.
We ring, knock but no one answer, so strike # 1.
So he said he'll drive around to the hot spot to pick up girl.
1st stop, Astoria hotel. I don't like what I saw,
The front of the hotel was crowded by mostly Indians aggressively surrounding the small group of girls
From what I can see the girls are mostly Africans & small number of Chinese.
Feeling uneasy about the situation, I told Malik to go somewhere else, off we go to York.
This time he told me to mingle a bit and get girl.
Well I paid 50 Drh to get into a well-packed York.
Maybe it was Friday but I think the place easily be booked for over-capacity violation.
I was like fish out of water with my 50 drh bottle of water in York.
I saw a few Africans beauties but can't manage to talk to them with all the commotion.
So again, I left empty handed.
The next hour, me and Malik just drive around the area and misses all the chances so strike # 2
My flight Saturday was in late evening so at afternoon between 12 and 2 I had another chance.
Call malik about Lana, the CIS girl that live right next to the hotel but alas still no answer,
So Malik bring 1 CIS girl ( I forget her name) to me we talk at the taxi I offer her 200 for ST.
Maybe it was my testosterone-filled face coupled with my desperate attitude, she flat out refuse any of my offer.
So Strike # 3 and I am out.
The experience did not deter me to go to DXB again, the girls were there, I just failed to capitalize.
My highlight of the trip was the foods and the dessert tour that I took, it was a lot of fun.
I hope that I can get back to DXB soon and join you guys for a beer or 2
Chukran!
Zero Bin Mohammed al Maktoum ;)

Tony #1

04-18-05, 13:47

This is not a racist comment at all.

Dubai is brilliant firstly. And any one can habe a great time out there, whether it be relaxing in the best hotels in the world shopping getting drunk clubbing and ofcourse shagging. Now this is something that might upset people but dont be upset.
A bad point about these places is the pricks that are from india or wherever that act like little kids when they see a girl. Some of these guys act like they have never seen a girl before. Acting like a set of clowns, with their sh..tty clothes on thinking that they are some kind of hero, when they know that if it wasnt for the money these ladies wouldnt touch them with a bargepole.

Sporadic

04-18-05, 19:19

Tony
This is not a racist comment at all. Could have fooled me.
Look pal, I have no idea who annointed you the perfect man, I have no doubt that while the pros only sleep with "other" people for money, for you they would crawl across ground glass for a chance to savour your favours.

Come on Tony, people are different all over the world. Just because someone does not meet your definition of studmeister or Mr. Cool does not make them any less valid as a customer of a provider.

Been said here a thousand times... while racism is a sad fact of life (certainly true in DXB) the ladies are much, much more interested in the color of your money.

To quote: Please do not take this the wrong way

I guess the ladies are far more impressed with a middle-aged, fat, bald European. The money? No way!

Sporadic

Cool Sinbad

04-19-05, 16:59

I don't get it, what's with all the personal attacks, racial comments and other unpleasant stuff of late ?

Sporadic's right - it's not about what you are or how you look when it comes to sex. When it comes to P4P, it's only about the color of your money. And when it comes to providers that's the only issue of concern.

Let's keep away from racially charged comments, and heated comments that can be taken personally - this forum is suppossed to be about sharing experiences, making contacts and developping friendships.

And this forum has lost a lot of its color of late because of this.

From a guy who used to only read the forum, started posting, and then went back to only reading, after being on the receiving end of some unwarranted personal comments and attacks.

Cool Sinbad

Zero

04-20-05, 09:26

Guys,
I can't help but to feel that I started this "raciscm" talk.
Let me clear things up.

quote
The front of the hotel was crowded by mostly Indians aggressively surrounding the small group of girls
end quote

Maybe in this line, I might give you an impression that I don't like certain race
What I really mean is I don't like in a crowded situation while I hunt.
The same thing happen when I was at York, I saw Caucasian, Chinese, Indian, etc
It was just too packed, a major turn off for me, that's why I struck out.
I am more of a lounge guy than bar, It has nothing to do with any time of race.
Maybe I shouldn't mention any race, for that I apologize.
Let's stop talking about the color of our skin and continue with the mongering, shall we.
Cheers

Red or Dead

04-20-05, 12:08

Hi friends,

Anyone knows a high quality MP that can pass me their number?

I know I can find a lot in Gulf News but have no idea about the quality of their service, and will appreciate anyone's help on this.

Cheers

Tony #1

04-20-05, 14:42

Like I said, it was not racist. I am British and my parents are both from Punjab India, so I'm not being racist obviously. My point was that some people at these places act like idiots but forget about it. Apolagies if I upset any1 no intention to do so. I'll be up in dubai June and I'm gonna shag like a rabbit.

Peace

11Bravo

04-21-05, 11:56

i've seen plenty of boorish behavior at the bars, not confined to any nationality the leering louts, both in the bars and on the streets the dog packs, who surround a girl to give their members courage the passed out drunks, either on the floor, or literally face down on a table (just who i want to have sitting with me) the loud and obnoxious lager louts the "grabbers" who feel it is perfectly ok to cop a feel, even grope, a girl without her permission (as i tell the ladies, "i don't grab you, don't grab me; it's disrespectful) the rip-off artists who don't pay (have been reading lately of scam at petrol stations: guy pulls up in suv, says fill the tank, then, after, claiming he only wanted 10, 20 dhs worth, so refusing to pay full amount). if you think this has nothing to do with p4p, then don't be surprised when she refuses pay after. etc., etc., etc.

as to zero, if you don't like crowds, and i am the same, then try going early, say, 9, 9:30, to the bars. obviously, fewer selections, but noticeably a smaller crowd (tradeoffs in everything).

to get thread back on track:

management summary:
york on a late tuesday (12:30 - 2:00), busy, but nothing special around, for me. usual mix. streets outside teeming with chinese street walkers. have noticed that york is becoming hit and miss of late, when, before, could always easily find a number of ladies who could be placed on the "to do" list. have not yet gone home alone, but have come close several times. my recommendation: still worth a visit, but if you see a nice one, book early.

just a rambling fr:
nice thing about dubai: bars stay open late, so, even if you decide you're "restless" later on, still opportunities. last tuesday, decided past midnight i'd go see what was happening at the york.

the shoemart parking lot was a real gautlet; full of chinese, with some africans sprinkled in-between. al-ain parking lot, across the street, also had a lot of action of the same variety. saw a couple of chinese that would have been right at home in any of the bars. they were looking good, but wanted to check out york, and was looking for ee in particular and to get a looksee of the place in general.

another gautlet, new to me, anyway, were the birds on a wire perched at the entrance to the york; mainly chinese. that must please the york's management to no end; not what you want to see in front of your hotel (management's perspective). just goes to show that the shoemart/al ain parking lots were overflowing. (all a disaster just waiting to happen).

moved inside york. was surprised at the crowd on a tuesday night, now 12:45. stopped to order a drink and size up the situation. mix of chinese, africans, cis. as soon as i stopped, a chinese 10 came up. unfortunately, it was a 6 + 4, tag team, and i was now a sandwich. new, for me, was the marketing employed: while speaking the standard litany, each was running her hand up my shirt sleeve, reaching inside, and playing with my nipples. enjoyed their attention while i surveyed the scene. did see some familar faces: ginny (nice body); saw nancy (school teacher look) had returned from china; another waltzed by, previous encounter whose name i could not remember. but did not see any of my current regulars, and not ee. was not asking the 6, think her name dundun, about any menu as i did not want to get bogged down in negotiations then, and the usual hassle of "you take 2".

as the tag team was screening me from speaking with any other potentials, i politely excused myself, extracated myself from their grasp, and made my way to the back pool tables, looking to see if piper was around. tag team followed, not taking the hint. again, sandwiched me in, and proceeded with the nipple massage. i hadn't even made it a quarter way around the circuit. again, extracated myself and headed off to continue the circuit; this time, they did not follow. did make a newbie mistake: i did not get dundun's mobile number. at that time, just wasn't interested in making the effort to split the tag team. regrets later.

remember: never hurts to get a mobile number.

having made the full circuit, nothing, except dundun, really registering. did not see any of the girls i'd pull without hesitation. made it back to my starting point. now past 1. selection thinning fast; one moment, nancy there, another, not. by that time, figured i'd split the tag team and head home with dundun. yea, right. anyone who's been in that situation knows what happened: quickly spotted miss 4; dd nowhere to be seen. now, if i wanted to sample her, would have to return and scout.

found myself besides a nice looking, bare-midriffed chinese in black, looking bit more professional, dancing in place to attract attention. her marketing matched her look: very brief litany, then a quick "you take me?". when i did not quickly answer in the affirmitive, she said "maybe later", turned around, and resumed her dancing, hoping to attract some moths. a pro for sure, to wanting to spend any time with a mere potential.

last encounter was with a group of 4 nicely racked chinese, all in a group. two were talking with a local punter; i don't know what was being said, but one of the girls let out a resounding no. looking around, and catching me eyeing her, she winked, i nodded, and she moved over (for the newbies, that is how easy it is). some nice marketing, giving me a chance to scope out her rack (probably enhanced), while she proceeded with a small-of-the-back massage. jen had spent 2 months in murep001; now working on her 3rd month in dubai. given the hour (now approaching 2), quickly got down to the negotiations. menu was good; she claimed she liked oral, and bbbj/cim was "no problem if you clean"; the qualification lending credence to her veracity. number of shots, duration mutually agreed. her price was 500 dhs; bit high, given the hour and climate (buyers' market). but she did not seem willing to drop down to 400, and it was not worth it to me to wait around another hour to closing to see if there would be a fire sale. agreed to her price. ready to go, right? ehhhhhhht.

mentioned that it would be pay after. that was a show-stopper. her comment: "first pay, then can relax and enjoy." (certainly a true statement from her perspective). given the hour, her menu qualifications, and a general feel, i figured she was not a rip-off, and would deliver what was stated. however, i just didn't feel like setting a precedent (and remembering all the other ladies who did not object to a pay after; unfortunately, no references were around). i just told her i always paid in the morning; she gave me a very cool "no thank you", turned around, and rejoined her circle of friends. no need to speak chinese; i could easily tell the topic of discussion was why the deal had fallen through, given the movement of lips and the group glances in my direction.

remember: be prepared for the consequences of your decisions.

made one last circuit; nothing interesting. my hope of catching a returning "early st'er" out for a double-header was not being realized. one of jen's nicely racked friends stopped by. could not quite tell what she was saying, but did not seem to be marketing herself, but rather asking why i'd passed on her friend. did not feel like starting negotiations from zero, and was sure she would have the same attitude as to when payment was due. decided to go back to plan a.

went outside, and called ee. good news. phone rang, and she answered. better news. could here music and crowd noise in the background. asked where she was; "astoria". she asked where i was; i replied, "at york, looking for you". her response surprised me; "york, no good customers.", with me thinking, what, astoria is better?. took a minute of conversation for her to place me, but when she did,... best news. "i come see you, 5 minutes".5 minutes later, she was pulling up in a taxi, and we were off, back through the gautlets of "birds on the wire" and the parking lot. reduced menu (from jen's offer), but great massage in-between rounds.

summary:get phone numbers of interesting ladies. past midnight, the ones you find attractive, others will too. average price does seem to have gone up by 100/200 dhs.

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jsf, you did not miss anything.

on thursday, returned to york to look for dundun. arrived at the awkward hour of 10:30; too late for happy hour, too early for any real stars. believe it or not, it was worse than tuesday, with even less of an appealing selection, at least for me. again, some familiar faces, but none of my regulars, and, of course, no sign of dundun. not even the racked gang of 4 were around. sadly disappointing, especially for a weekend.

stuck around for a couple of hours, hoping that either some stars would arrive later, or else some st'ers would be back for a 2nd round. neither happened. considered heading out to another venue, but too late for imperial (it gets packed with males on thursdays), didn't feel like a cyclone weekend surcharge, and couldn't be bothered with a trip to the unknown, to me, night astoria. considered rockafellas, but wanted a comfortable chinese. also considered seashell inn, to check out the new band, but, my experience, while p4p available, the quantity of selection was not there.

question: can anyone comment on jockey's after midnight? certainly some pickings there early in the evening, but late? and how about seashell these days?

did have a nice convesation with a previous encounter, going back to china next week. unfortunately, she fell into the "ok, but no return" category. however, she did help indirectly: an attractive friend came up to talk with her, caught my eye, the friend was no doubt briefed, then came over to try her marketing. nice, not a star, but gave a gfe feeling. menu ok. price was 500; gave me the "weekend" surcharge spiel, and, with the m/f ratio worsening by the minute, and the female selection certainly not improving, agreed. i did not bother with a "pay after" statement, figuring that our common friend had given me a recommendation (never doubt their networking). issue never came up.

nice gfe; only slight blemish was when, in the morning, she asked for an additional 50 dhs for "york ticket". but no problem accepting my "ah, noooo". not quite enough to make the starting rotation, but certainly someone to keep in the bullpen, in case some relief needed.

Paddy23

04-21-05, 15:38

hey..first time poster on this board. Will be going to Dubai in July to live and have a few questions I hope some of the regulars here can help me out with...

- Reading through the reports I am confused as to what type of places York, Astoria, Cyclone are. Are they purely freelancer hangouts or do non p4p girls go there too..?
- Whats the chances of scoring for free in Dubai? I managed to do well in Seoul, including with a lot of off-duty hostesses as well as in Bangkok and Philippines without paying. I am not averse to it, but would rather end my Saturday night with a girl who is with me because she wants to be...
- How far spread out are all these places? I wont have a car, although might buy a motorbike. Are taxis frequent? Cheap?
- What time is closing time at the weekend?

-- also if any guys want to hook up for some beers and go on the pull for non p4p girls, let me know...I am 26, from Dublin---cheers for any info...

Sporadic

04-21-05, 16:00

Paddy,

These are just my opinion...

1. The places mentioned are p4p, you can spot the "couples" in ten seconds (when they venture into one of these places, the male gets seriously wowed, then poked in the ribs by his companion ;))

2. Presuming you do not look like Quasimodo, I feel you will have more than plenty of opportunities for non-p4p action. Particularly among expats, stews, vacationers etc.

3. Even the p4p girls are "with you because they want to be," this is not an Imperial Japanese Officer´s comfort hotel. Having said that, for me, please have a shot at the Singapore airlines stews staying at the Renaissance. They KILL me.

4. The places mentioned are in the Golden triangle in Bur Dubai, all within a couple blocks.

5. Lots of cheap taxis, except when you need one. Daily gridlock. A bike is a good option, but drive VERY carefully. Traffic laws here are merely advisory in nature.

6. To the best of my knowledge, closing time varies between 2 and 3am.

7. Sure, we could meet up for a drink and a chase. I could play the male role of the typical "every good looking girl has a fat, ugly girlfriend" for you!
;)

Cheers,

Sporadic

11Bravo

04-22-05, 13:33

Casey at Bat. Misadventure FR, so skip if you (easily) have something better to do. Just to make Zero, and others, know they are not alone when expectations do not meet reality.

Tuesday night - big plans: Hit Jockeys to look for Margarita, who'd I'd seen had returned last month (she was occupied then, so no chance to talk), plus scout out the early talent before heading out to Cyclone (willing to pay the weekday entrance fee) just to see who was around. Given the number of familiar faces returning, hoping might spot FanFan.

What I actually did: fell asleep on the couch, waking at 11 to stumble off to bed.
Strike 1

Wednesday night. Everything closed. No problem; get out the ole mobile 1st choice: Y, Thursday regular. Call her at 7; she's at a BBQ with friends; OK, significance of that clear; done for the night. Ask her when can I see her? "Maybe tomorrow, maybe after tomorrow." Have no trouble translating the "When business is slow".

2nd choice: I'd met Ah couple months ago at afternoon TGIT; never pulled. Tonight is the opportunity. 7:30 called; number still good. She was having dinner at a chinese restaurant with friends. Said she'd sms me later; OK, I'll wait for that.

3rd choice: Lili, Imperial regular. 8:00, call her; friend answers; she's out, but will be back in 10 minutes. She calls me back; wants to hook up around 10. That puts me off a bit, so just say I'll call her back.

My fat ass is providing so much inertia that I'm having a hard time deciding what to do. 1st choice, full menu, was only one who could take a taxi directly to my door. Run through my list; inertia overcoming any desire. Lili calls about 9:30, wanting to know what's up. I punk out and duck the call (bad Karma to return later). By now, reflecting on the wisdom of pulling her, given her reduced menu. Responsive girl, but that menu... Don't feel like trying to explain to the taxi driver how to get to my place, and can't overcome my "blobness" to go pick her up, even somewhere close where the taxi can drop her. (About now, missing the GF's who have gone home). But easier to NOT make a decision then to have to commit one way or the other, so switch off the phone while I mull what to do.

4th choice. Around 11, decide to throw the dice, and call a Cyclone girl I used to hook up with regularly, after she's done with her early ST'er. Phone is switched off. I see that Lili has called several times. I throw my Karma in the shitter and go to bed.

Given that TGIT would be closed Thursday afternoon, the crowd was growing restless.
Strike 2

Thursday night. Well, I AM rested. PM JSF saying I'll be at York between 9:30/10:30. Want to overcome my mistake of NOT getting DunDun's number. Also stop in to Jockey's from 8:30/9:30. Pleasant enough crowd (agree with BC - we will have to hook up sometime). Older pro sitting at the bar caught my eye; definitely some miles, but strongly reminded me of an old girlfriend (including the boob job). Got talking with a newly arrived Krgie; tempted, but I had said I'd be at York, it WAS early, and I did want to look for DD. Learned from my previous mistake, and got Krgie's number for future use.

Off to York. Shoemarket parking lot, given the early hour, had only a couple of wg's. Birds on the wire were already forming a gautlet to the York entrance; wonder how long that will be tolerated. Inside, even at 9:30, bit of a crowd, but did secure a table in the shrunken chinese section. Soon joined by a member of the other forum, with some of his friends. JSF sms'd me he was occupied.

Got approaced by a chinese awkward combo: one with an average face and a nice, artificially enhanced rack; the other with the really cute face and the a-cups. Usual litany; when they found out where I lived, they wanted me to join them at THEIR apartment ("very close"). Jenny, the rack, was doing some nice marketing, with the hand up the sleeve trick; her partner was hanging back, and eventually disappeared. Jenny increasing the pressure to make a decision.

Around 10:30, decided I'd inventory my options, so, not being able to get a signal inside (others having this problem, or just my old phone/battery), went out on the street. Called Ah; phone off. Same with Lili. Back inside.

Given the current options, and, even artificial, the rack was appealing, so STARTED to check the menu with Jenny. On my asking about oral, her reply was "How much you pay?". Whoa. I order set plate, fixed price, not ala-carte, and here we were just talking about the first course. I just turned away.

Several familiar faces appeared. One, familiar, couldn't place; thought she might be from Cyclone. On talking with her, no, she was a "Yorkie"; took me awhile to place (another) Ginny (your's Keith). Nothing jumping out, M/F changing more and more unfavorable.

About 11, back outside, called Lili. Phone rang, but no answer. Tried again, this time, line cut (translation: occupied). Tried Ah; good news: this time, she answered, and, better news: LOUD music. Had to wait a minute while she moved to where I could hear her; she was at Astoria, 2nd floor. Told her I was on my way.

Grabbed a taxi. Driver wanted to take the direct, chock-a-block jammed direct route; I told him to swing around and go around by Carrefour. He did, but by the time I got there, could almost just have quickly walked it. Inside, up to 2nd floor.

Now, my dilemma: I don't think I can recognize Ah. Remember her as being cute, but, details... I'm hoping she'll spot me. OK, number of chinese do approach, but none are Ah. Some, by looks, I know are NOT, others, don't get a name match. Can't get a signal inside, so have to go down to lobby to call. Call; again with the LOUD music; but, this time, she does not move to where I can understand her. Back upstairs; no luck. Back downstairs; same as before, though this time she does say her battery is failing as the line dies. Upstairs, no luck. OK, enough of this nonsense; I leave. Stop outside to send her an sms message "I was there, where were you?".

Sidebar: CANNOT recommend evening Astoria. 2nd floor, Poncho Villa's, 11:30 - 12:00: well, if you like watching a bunch of GUYS dancing in a circle, then maybe it is for YOU. Pathetic 5/1 M/F ratio. Downstairs, in TGIT, similiar; about as crowded as an afternoon. Glad I did it ONCE, but don't have to do again.

Tried to call Lili. Phone off. Decide I'll gamble, hoping she's still inside Imperial, with no signal. Takes me 5,6 minutes to walk to Imperial. There is a semi-mob outside in the street; 2 large bouncers holding gate duty at the OUTSIDE door. No way is it worth trying to get in (if the ENTRANCE is that bad, what is it like INSIDE, so head back to York. My phone buzzes; sms from Ah. She's busy; will call me later. OK, that Karma from Wednesday has returned.

Back to York; have to walk a grasping gautlet of chinese to reach the entrance (like I say, we'll see how long THAT is tolerated; subtle to ANYONE, it's not). Back inside, just after midnight. Packed. Unfortunately, due to no signal, miss Lili's message that she'll be free in 30 minutes. Ratio not favorable for a punter. Tempted to pull (another) nicely racked Ginny from days past, but she's top rank, and I know she's looking for a "higher" roller than I.

As I'm standing there, make eye contact with a short chinese cutie standing with a customer. He's really hammered, swaying in a non-existent breeze. The way she's giving me smiles, I'm thinking maybe THEIR deal is NOT done. She is cute; could she be the elusive DunDun? She certainly seems to know me. As he gets jostled by a passing group, she reaches over, and gives my hand a squeeze. I'm hopeful, but will NOT cut in. Sadly, before having a chance to ask her name, he recovers enough equilibrium to stumble towards the door, she in tow.

Then, I spot a very cute chinese, SHARPLY dressed in a nice black cocktail dress, mini boots, with long scarf. Says Clubber, not WG; no walk of shame with her. Miss Style's body language is saying "anyplace but here"; just standing there, one arm folded across her chest, usually looking down, occasionaly at the passing crowd. I make eye contact; we exchange some smiles. Eventually, she moves on over, just standingly there, smiling. No other marketing. It's a one-sided conversation, me to her. Normally, given that, I'd have moved on. But she did come over, and, remembering several girls I've known who just didn't like the bar scene/marketing themselves, but were good providers once the deal was set, continued. Checked menu; acceptable; again the qualification for bbbj "if you clean" lending credence to her agreement. Duration ok. Then asked her price. 800. I just looked at her, smiled, and wished her good luck.

She asked for a counter offer; however, now, things were beginning to focus. Dress was style, but THAT would be coming off. Cute, but the lack of body contact, the aloofness, ... I didn't respond, just started a new survey of the crowd. Miss Style took a step away, clearing both of us for future action. In the next couple of minutes, not really seeing anyone intersting, and seeing Style was still close, stepped over, and, for me, made a fair offer: 400, 500 if good service. She then returned the look I'd given her when she'd stated 800.

I returned to my corner; couple minutes later, she stepped over, saying, "Tonight, I want to make good money; give me 700". As Sporadic has stated: "Something is worth exactly what someone will pay you for it." She was not worth it to me. I get ready to finish my drink and head home, empty handed. Last I see of her, she is standing with the one arm crossed across her chest, other arm at side, while a new punter leans in, starting negotiations.

Strke 3. The crowd goes silent. Well, that's what afternoon TGIT is for.

But wait. The catcher has dropped the ball. Just as I'm finishing, I see another cute chinese, short brownish hair, coming up to her friends, and starting a dance to the music, just for her own pleasure. We make eye contact, exchange winks, and she's at my side. Now past 1:30. She IS doing some nice, subtle marketing. Quickly strike a deal; 2 rounds that night, morning wakeup. Ask her price; 500. Given the events over the last 48 hours, I didn't even try and knock off 100 from the price. Done deal. Only after the deal was done did she confirm what I suspected: she was a bit hammered. That gave me pause, having pulled an alcoholic once before (for me, right in the MIDDLE of various events, just NOT a turn-on when she says, "Wait a minute, have to go toilet".) But, what the hey, take a chance, and, once she finishes her beer, we're off.

As we're walking across the Shoemart lot (as BC reported, rather devoid of SW's, all be concentrated at side of York), receive Lili's sms; too late. By the time we reach home, phone's ringing; caller id says it's Ah; I switch the phone off.

First blemish is when Amy wants money up front; given the hour, and her state, I don't argue. Attempted hijack of the 1st round to a hand job ("You try, number 1"), but I decline, and she gives a decent bbbj. As expected, pulls away at the magic moment. FS is OK.

In the morning, I wake up around 10; she's still sleeping. As I have nothing to do, let her, nodding in and out myself. Before 11, start some slight prodding; she wakes up, checks the clock, and back to sleep. Me, I'm easy going. Now, just past 11.

You know it's trouble when she gets up, grabs her panties, and heads for the bathroom. After finishing in there, she returns, and gets dressed. I'm still in bed, foolish me; I can obviously see what's coming (NOT, pun intended). She does start a frontal shoulder massage, but that's it. So I break the ice, and mention the morning wakeup oral. She suddenly loses all comprehension of English, merely responding "I go home now".

Fine with me. I jump up, start pulling on clothes. She can't seem to figure out "Why you angry?". I show her the door, walk her to the corner, and point where she can catch a taxi after a short walk and a right turn. No taxi fare offered; she didn't ask for any, only explaining that she must be home by 12 to have lunch (barracks style accomodation). Fair enough, but SHE was the one who rolled over back to sleep. Just last week, Ee, not understanding my morning "I'm late; take shower", as I jump up, head to the shower, and returning, as I'm pulling on clothes, she's still in bed waiting to provide the wakeup. Now, that's service, even if I had to pass.

I just turned and walked away, without even a goodbye. I'm sure she walked away thinking "What is it with this crazy gaigin?". For me, giving the, in practicality, infinite number of WG's here, why accept reneged services?

Bummer, thrown out at first.

11Bravo

04-22-05, 14:05

To reiterate what Sporadic says:

- Reading through the reports I am confused as to what type of places York, Astoria, Cyclone are. Are they purely freelancer hangouts or do non p4p girls go there too..?True freelancers and some "controlled" girls (who report to a boss, on-site). As Sporadic says, no trouble determining the true couples venturing a look. Also will see a "wg" couple, she arriving with her "date" of the evening.

Whats the chances of scoring for free in Dubai? Sheik Zayed Road, down near Trade Center has a number of "crew" accomodations. Number of legit female workers around, though, at work, tend to be a bit reserved. Not seen too much on the street, given the harassment of local yocals of any females walking.

Time Out Dubai comes out 1st of each month, lists the various venues.

Plus, just remember that this is a Muslim country; sex between non-married's is a crime. Obviously, tolerated, as long as it is discreet. Even if caught, you won't be punished, given your nationality, but if she is a TCN... deportation at best. So another reason why it is a bit more difficult here as compared to other places.

- How far spread out are all these places? I wont have a car, although might buy a motorbike. Are taxis frequent? Cheap?Astoria (TGIT), York, Imperial all within 5 minutes walk. Cyclone a short taxi ride from the golden triangle. Taxi's relatively cheap, 10, 15 dhs. for within city.

Driving CRAZY; you take your life in your hands when you drive a car. Bike is do-able, just be VERY careful; you will not register with that SUV.

- What time is closing time at the weekend?3am, though lights come on about 2:45. Usually a crowd outside at closing, trying for last minute deals. On the other hand, this is when police usually strike for a visa check, so number of girls will depart early.

All in all, Dubai is a VERY nice place to live. Most likely higher standard of living than at home. Streets safe at all hours; at best, some property crimes. Great infrastructure; everything works (all owned by govt). Do have to be a bit careful about scams (real estate, buying a car, etc.) Rent is usually a year, paid in advance, with post-dated checks (and they had better NOT bounce). Can find any type of food you like, though will be expensive (class restaurants, some stand-alone; lot in hotels). Just remember to be conservative in everything you do, and respect the local, conservative, culture. At first glance, it might look wide-open, given the P4P bars, but, if you believe that, that's how you wind up in trouble.

11Bravo

04-24-05, 14:33

as i was around karama in the evening, choice between york and cyclone. not being anti-social, but i'd been to the york 3 times in the past 10 days, and hadn't been to cyclone for a couple of months, so, given it was a week night (with week night entrance fee)... wanted to see who was around.

lot of familiar faces, many more than york. guess that just goes to show that those who can make money can afford whatever it takes to stay. at york, out of the 3 times, once i saw a chinese nice-racked "gang of 4"; at cyclone, it must have been the "gang of 20" last night. the a-cups are definitely in the miniority there.

at 9:30, place rather deserted, especially the cis, but 5-6 chinese a-lists there at that time. by 11:30, when i left, filling up, lot more punters. 2 literal gautlets of chinese: 1 in the usual location, to the left of the middle bar; the other, behind the middle bar, between the women's and men's toilets. if you like asian, as i do, you could easily have gotten whiplash from that walk. from my point of view, lot of top-line chinese; not so many in the 2nd ranking, unlike york where there are a few top-line, and many in the 2nd rank. even with the entrance prices the same (maybe york even higher), guess the competition keeps that next level down away from the cyclone. my guess is, that will keep prices high. beauty was certainly present; however, sweetness seemed to be lacking; only talked with 1 who was warm, friendly "york" style; others seemed to be exactly what their visas' said: businesswomen.

anyway, while york has become hit or miss, cyclone is still cyclone. now, the prices... i didn't even enquire as i knew i'd not be pulling, but a number, knowing me, did not waste their time. nothing like the feeling as their gaze sweeps over you, and you don't even register on their radar! (no problem; i do the same with the africans - they're just not worth it, to me). some were nice enough, even though i wasn't a player in their eyes, to come over and say hi, though one mistook the young guy i was talking to for my son.

a lot of cyclone chinese seemed to have adopted the cis mo: no cold calling, just standing in the lines, waiting for a punter to make a first move. maybe that changes later when it gets more crowded. at first, i thought it was just because i was known as a cheap charlie, but the young lad i was talking to was a different matter. i would have thought he'd be mobbed: young, handsome, money (he was staying at the barj el arab; told him to just say jumerah when they asked for his hotel), prime candidate, but maybe they really did think we were related.

saw a few attractive cis; 1, a caucasian, was a true 10 (for me), was just entering as i was leaving. she was a true head-turner; sorry i had to be on my way (i'd guess 800-1000, but i would be tempted...)

warning: there are at least 2 chinese lucy's at cyclone, both similiar in looks, but worlds away in attitude (i have experience with both). both wear crop tops with plunging neckline; both appear to have nice racks. lucy who has the red and white crop top (or maybe blue and white), black hair, always worn down below the shoulder, definitely oriental looking, is very nice, good service, and a great attitude; much nicer than i expected. lucy who wears a white crop top, brown hair, most always in a ponytail, looks a bit less oriental, is a rip-off, at least my once is enough experience with her. 500 lt, multiple shots agreed to, but it was pay in advance, and after the 1st shot, on receipt of a phone call, she suddenly had to go help a sick friend (yea, for sure, a friend who needed help with a couple of punters). and she has told several potential girls that i was interested in about how she took 500 st from me. so thought i'd return the favor and warn punters to be careful. sour grapes if you like, but be forewarned (and the rack was due to some non-obvious gel pads - nothing like watching it disappear as she pulls them out). if you do pull her, make sure it's pay after.

Ohio29

04-25-05, 07:34

Hey Guys,

Just got back from an excellent two day sojourn in Dubai. JSF- The king of Dubai is very much around but sadly cannot access the forum as has already been mentioned.

I arrived in Dubai at around 1 p.m. on Sat afternoon and met up with another friend of mine who had arrived last night. The poor guy was really bummed out as he was staying at the York and he got a real rude shock when he was told that he could not take a lady to his room. Anyway, we straight away hit TGIT and within 2 minutes had a couple of Russians sitting with us in our booth. The one lady who could speak English was absolutely gorgeous with a really solid body and rack. A definite 8+. My friend was immediately smitten and she had her own place and quoted DH 200 for one hour, two shots which I thought was really reasonable. My friend barely took two bites of his burger and was gone with her. I was really not interested in her friend who was pretty but I did not like her attitude, although later on I found out that I really missed out because my same friend took her the next night and turned out she was even better than this one.

In the meantime JSF had also arrived so I sat around chatting with him and did not spot anything good at TGIT, but was really itching to get my pipes cleaned so called up Emma. Very disappointed to learn that Louisa and Darina are both not there any more. On JS's recommendation got Jameelah. She came over to my hotel in about an hour and true to Emma's repuation of provider of fine ladies, this lady was no less. Within 10 minutes she had me CIM and then about half an hour later finished me off with some excellent intercourse. Damage DH 300, and that was after bargaining like hell with Emma as she refuses to charge anything less than 400 per hour.

In the night my friend and I hit the York. JSF was also there with another forum member and we just sat around chatting for about an hour. JS got a report from my friend on his afternoon Russian and I am pretty sure he will be paying her a visit soon as that lady was one looker. My friend and I had this terrible itch for an African lady that night and in spite of JSF advising against it we picked up two ladies for DH 200 for an hour each. Drove to their apartment which was surprisingly very nice and both the ladies looked real good and had excellent bodies, but service was absolutely terrible. My lady said that she was not going to do any kissing or sucking. Anyway I had already paid as she was really insisting but she had such a hot body with beautiful tits and one of the nicest shaven pussies that I managed to get hard and come quite quickly. My friend had the same experience and we were both out of that place in around 15 minutes vowing to never go near anything African again.

No trip to Dubai is ever complete without paying a visit to lovely F. My friend was also very eager to experience her. We went to her place on Sun afternoon at around 1 p.m.. She now has around 3 ladies so I sampled one of her ladies while my friend took F. I would have also naturally wanted to take her but decided to sacrifice for the sake of my friend. The girl I had was a brunnete with a slightly plumpish figure but she gave excellent service and had a really nice tight pussy. I had a nice half an hour experience with her with some BBBJ, DATY and then finished of inside her. My friend of course has a mind blowing experience with F which is always the case and in spite of all the hype I had built up about her, my friend was still taken by surprise as to how good she really was. He said that she will have to go down as one of his most unforgettable mongering experiences.

My Dubai trip was as usual very satisfying and I took off in the evening. Report from my friend was that he called up the Russian again that he had met at TGIT the day before who brought along her friend. This time he took her non-english friend and he described her as "Shakespeare's Juliet" and said that it was one highly satisfying experience.

While i have been travelling to Dubai for almost 4-5 years now I can safely say that as a majority some of the best experiences one will always get from the Russian girls. Their sexual liberation and willingness to please are two of their most enduring qualities.

Ciao,

Ohio29

Cunnilinger

04-25-05, 12:24

If anyone has contact numbers of high class indian girls in Dubai and interested in trade with contact numbers of pakistani girls, PM me.

Cajun12

04-26-05, 05:24

I was told by a friend that he was in the act of paying for a room at Imperial Suites when he was informed by the Desk that guests were no longer allowed in the rooms. He took back his card and politely thanked the gentleman and went elsewhere. Has anyone stayed at Imperial lately and were they Girl friendly? My past experiences have been great, but this disturbs me as i have booked 3 rooms for next month there!

Comatose

04-26-05, 12:04

Hi Everyone,

Was browsing through the classified today and saw this ad for a complete fully body massage for men only. Decided to try it out so gave the cell a ring. A Chinese man picked up and gave me the location - was 100 /hour.

Was around the Jumeirah area - not too far from the office - so went for it. Entered the villa and was directed to 4 pretty lovely looking Chinese ladies. Picked the slimmest and it was a great choice.

Took me upstairs where I paid her the initial 100 (boss fee). Then she told me about the massage with baby oil (refused the oil as its too messy) and also told me half and half was 100 + 100.

Told her to start with the French and will decide for more if the service is good. Well her CBJ with BLS (i opted for the CBJ because am not comfortable with BBBJ) was amazing with extensive DT. Went on for around 15 mins and was going for FS but realised was running late on my lunch brk.

Finished off and left but told her I will be back for more. The location is pretty nice - residential area and quite safe.

You can find the ad easily in the Dubai classified :)

Tony #1

04-26-05, 13:58

I agree 100% russians are without a doubt the best. They give the best service, they have a laugh with you etc etc. Chineses are ok but i had a bit of a bad time with 1 and the service was no way as good. Africans ive never had even though there are some quite nice looking blacks. But there are some right nasty blacks, that remind me of gorillas.

Wingo

04-26-05, 16:13

If anyone has contact numbers of high class indian girls in Dubai and interested in trade with contact numbers of pakistani girls, PM me.Sir,Iam comming dubai during 2nd week of May 2005 i need your help regarding contact numbers of high class of both Indian and Pakistan, Irani girls. Is there any hostels to stay?

11Bravo

04-26-05, 16:40

Nice to see some others posting some FR's.

The poor guy was really bummed out as he was staying at the York and he got a real rude shock when he was told that he could not take a lady to his room.AND that is why you should read this forum; common knowledge.

Anyway, we straight away hit TGIT and within 2 minutes had a couple of Russians sitting with us in our booth. ... but I did not like her attitude, although later on I found out that I really missed out because my same friend took her the next night and turned out she was even better than this one.TGIT always hit and miss. And if they don't have the attitude IN the bar, then, for me, rarely worth the risk taking her home. But there are always those quiet ones, who, for lack of english, or just not liking the marketing aspect, can be a real surprise.

after bargaining like hell with Emma as she refuses to charge anything less than 400 per hour.Damn, that's an all-nighter from Imperial.

My friend and I had this terrible itch for an African lady that night and in spite of JSF advising against it we picked up two ladies for DH 200 for an hour each. ... but service was absolutely terrible. My lady said that she was not going to do any kissing or sucking. Anyway I had already paid as she was really insisting ... we were both out of that place in around 15 minutes vowing to never go near anything African again.With everything I've heard, just not worth it. When I read reports like this, don't feel so bad about brusquely brushing them off. I don't care to waste my time, NOR hers.

Sporadic

04-26-05, 19:59

11Bravo:
(original quote Ohio29): after bargaining like hell with Emma as she refuses to charge anything less than 400 per hour.

Damn, that's an all-nighter from Imperial.Not any more Bravo. Mr. Smith´s hand and sailors (and contractors) have seen to that.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Ohio29

04-27-05, 07:56

I had a feeling that after my last post I would be getting a lot of PM's requesting for F's contact. Guys I am really sorry but this is something I cannot share as the person who gave me this contact does not want it circulated around the forum. In no way am I trying to be difficult about this issue but the way things are in UAE recently and even the slightest irresponsible behaviour on one's part can lead to a lot of trouble for the ladies.

Bravo, my friend who stayed at the York was not a forum member and when he arrived at the airport this was the only hotel he could get. The amazing this is that he paid something like AED 180 per night which is just amazing for any hotel in Dubai.

Ciao,

Ohio29

Irish Lad

04-27-05, 16:25

Hello all,

I have just returned from 10 days in Dubai and shall be submitting my reports over the next few days.

My first night being a Thursday involved showing a friend passing through the various delights and sights that this city has.

We kicked off in Jules bar in the Meridien village. Many of the same old faces with only a few worth talking about. I had my eye on a CIS girl with "oriental" features who stands at the first counter on the right as you step up to the central part of the bar.

As I was acting as tour guide we headed off to Cyclone at about 11.30 pm.

Due to a private party, the left hand side of Cyclone was closed until after midnight and the place was now more stuffed than usual. All was as I remember from before except the prices had now stuck very firmly at 1,000 for the night!

Even after 2am it was impossible to negotiate any quality talent below this figure. Rather than ignore the forums guidelines I passed up and even afterwards in the Melee outside the prices remained firmly at 1000.

Resigned to passing up on my first night I went to head home before hearing a "hello Mr bacardi man". I recognised the girl form my first ever punt in Dubai last year. A blond Lithuanian with larger breasts than the last time!

We settled on 500 all night plus 100 to include taxi and "Weekend Supplement".

She stayed until 3pm the next afternoon and well and truly earned her money!
Services were OWO and this time forced me to put as much of my hand up her as I could fit. If my thumb had been double jointed I'm sure I could have gone all the way up to my wrist.

Well worth the repeat visit.

Irish Lad

Tercar 66

04-28-05, 10:54

I spotted a an Indian female in York last month . She asked for 700/- for the night. There is an Srilankan female called Jeenna who hangs around Regal plaza hotel claimnig to be an Indian. She keeps slipping a piece of paper with her mobile number into the hands of Indians in that club. I personally feel that Russians are the best bet. They do not have any attitude problem.

Zero

04-28-05, 12:32

11 bravo,
Sorry you have the same luck as I am,
but I can see that Ohio29 and Irish Lad are doing great.
My only regret while I was there was not visiting Cyclone.
At least if I am strike out there, I can enjoy the beauties there.
Don't get me wrong, but york is not my things,
I am more of a lounge guy than a bar guy.
Beside the york's girls as you said have few jewels.
Anyway, I hope that I can be back at DXB soon,
Although I doubt it because my business trip there was quite unsuccessful.
BTW, anyone have any luck with the ladies in the mall like Burjurman or City Center?
I saw many beauties there, one fine afternoon I saw 2 caucasians girls,
possibly CIS, with a model types body and face glide sensually past me.
One notable feature of the girl was, through her backless tank top,
they have like snake or dragon tattoos on her lovely back to her shoulder
I said this because In jakarta it is possible to be lucky in the mall hunting.
Cheers

Tony #1

04-28-05, 14:53

When we visited dubai last year the prices in cyclone for the night were 500. This was no probs every1 was happy. But 1000 sound a bit steep shit. A few friends have just got back from Dubai last week and said the prices were still about 500 in Cyclone for stunners.

Can any1 tell me if the prices now in cyclon are 1000. I know in other places it is cheaper but the cyclone women are beter looking?

Irish Lad

04-28-05, 16:46

Hi again,

I'll fill in my reports on a day by day basis if you don't mind.

2 reasons for this:

1. I have to do some work in the real world and

2. I can only cope with so many good memories at the same time.

Anyway, Friday night being "my weekend" I went for the first time to Jockeys after reading so much about it here.

WOW!

What a great spot! So many new faces for me to check out. Went to the bar for the purpose of getting a good look around all the nooks and corners here. Was elbowed several times by an older lady from Russia wearing a hat.

I tried to ignore her but she insisted on pestering me. I explained I really needed to get myself a drink before I could talk to her.

I retreated to close to the front door where I could pretty much see all that was going on.

I guess about 25 girls of varying levels of quality. Someone for everyone really.

I took a fancy to a girl with extra size breasts of about 24 years who claimed to be from Moldova. She may have meant Mongolia which would be more likely. Downed quite a few drinks here watching the girls dance before approaching the girls. Unfortunately another guy with less drink on board and quicker off the mark "pulled" my favourite and I headed off to Rockafellas for a look.

I got hit on at the bar to the left by a Russian with what "seemed" like a great pair but by now the "beer goggles" had kicked in! Her name is Camille and she talks very sexy.

Agreed 400 for the night to include OWO, something rarer by the day.

Not a bad experience but she looked better the night before than she did in the morning at 10am when she left.

Irish Lad

Member #3055

04-29-05, 10:24

just returned from dubai:

after checking in at the hilton creek, i left immediately to york. i prefer this place more than cyclone, because everything seems more natural to me. it was extremely crowded, mainly cis and chinese girls. as always the chinese girls attack you like bees to honey. i personally like that. after about 10 minutes in york, a very natural and friendly looking chinese girls showed up: she spoke english well and we walked through my wish list: blowjob without, [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) and rimming. we settled for 400 dirham. before i could finish my first beer i was in a taxi again. this girl was great: she liked the sex as i did, she gave me a real girlfriend experience. and a lot of fun: i like sex with a laugh. because she performed so well i gave her 100 dirham extra. i kept her phone number for my next trip. she will be in dubai for three months more.

next day i had soem spare time and went around noon to the thit bar in the astoria hotel. noon, is just to early. the first girls came in around half past noon. i had to leave for another meeting, but chacked again around 6pm for an afternoon beer. the place was full of girls now. i felt even a bit scared; i was the only european in there with about 50 hookers. but this gave me a great price advantage: i agreed with a chinese girl for ane hour fun for aed 150 (and taxi costs). good sex, but a bit average. but what u want for aed 150.

next day i checked the al rigga road, recommended by a local, and close to the hilton. it is a busy shopping street. i was there around 4pm. after about 2 minutes walking the first girls approached me. i did not use the services of the girls here this time. but this street is for sure worthwhile to remember when staying in deira, convienend close and girls enough.

Irish Lad

05-01-05, 17:57

Headed back to Jockeys about 10.30 pm this evening.

Noticed tonight that there appears to be a cover charge for some people! However,drinks are the cheapest of all the bars I've come across. The Romanian floor staff are the most efficient in Dubai.

Same faces but a few real good lookers hiding in the corners. Less pushy here than in other places which suits me as I like to make the initial approaches.

Saw 2 girls together that were over near the DJ stand and got talking to them. Turned out that they were twins from the Ukraine. No OWO which was a problem for me but the chance of twins for 400 each for the night was a great choice. Between tonight, Wednesday which was an alcohol-free night and my last night on the Saturday we had plenty of sex and laughs.

Went to dinner on the Wednesday and Saturday which made it all the more fun as I got to hear the story of their lives. They are very entertaining girls with a lifetime if stories.

Irish Lad

05-01-05, 18:12

Swung by KU Bu in the Intercontinental as I was waiting for a mate to fly in at midnight. Had a quickie in Marlbles first which has 7 or 8 girls at the bar. 3 of them were real beauties but a little cold in attitude. Don't know prices for here as I've yet to pull despite it being one of my favourite haunts.

KuBu down the back also has some beauts but there is a blond girl there now from the Ukraine, about 5' 4" with a fringe about 30 that emptied my mates minibar back at Xmas. She used to hang out at Jules. She drinks those bluefrogs. She stands near the front at the first "wall". Beware.

I suppose next time I'll work this bar better and have more news but tonight I had to meet my pal who spent an hour at immigration queueing.

Eventually met him in the lobby of the Regal plaza where we only had time for a look in Rockafellas.

It's here the follwing night where I took Natalie from Kiev home with me for 400 to include OWO. We waited 30 minutes for her friend to arrive for a "real" threesome but we gave up and headed back to my place.

Not so good looking in the lights but a sexy enough girl with plenty of enthusiasm. Didn't want a drink back at my room. Was more keen to shower where I got the first of 3 BJ's for the night.

Ended up asking her to go early after 3bj's and 2 rides as I really needed to sleep.

Faisal78

05-02-05, 07:55

Tercar 66

05-02-05, 10:30

Any one having contact on any Philipina or Thai girls good in BJ, pls pm me.

Guillomme

05-02-05, 12:39

As a regular visitor to Dubai I might give you all a hint how prices of the ladies are build up.

Many CIS girls have so called bosses and they signed contracts with them.

They ow their "bosses" from US$ 5,000 - US$ 15,000. They have to pay of their contracts before they can earn a dime. These bosses also present in the disco's. In York you find the "bosses" at the counter or near the door.

These bosses make the price.

Chinese girls normaly do not have bosses so their price is much lower from DHS 200 and up, depending on your negotiation capacities.

Negosiation CIS game down below DHS 500 is almost impossible now. In the early days before 2003 you could pick them up at closing time for bargain prices DHS 300.
I always ask them when they name their price, do you have a "boss"

Fly Guy 66

05-02-05, 22:22

Have noticed a few Ads on Expat website for Dubai offering massage & service ; some CIS, some British, one interesting one offering local , arabic & Iranian.

Has anyone any experience or feedback of using these contacts and whether any are scams or bona fide adverts.

Cheers

El Suave

05-03-05, 00:17

Thank you Guillomme for the up and up, now I know what the Ukrainian pro I picked up at Regal means when she says “I have a balance.”

As for “Chinese girls normally” not having bosses, the one Chinese I once picked up at Cyclone spent 5 minutes on her cell speaking frantically to what seemed like a boss, the conversation sounded serious enough and had the tone of a job report. Goes to show there exist two kinds of Chinese hookers, ones with bosses and others without.

Sporadic

05-06-05, 09:15

this will be a rather lame fr as i frankly did not go out much (indeed only once) and took the rest as therapeutic in-call.

early morning arrival, i was impressed with increased efficiency at the airport, they were whipping people through in no time.

unfortunately, i brought a little extra baggage, including a nicely incubated case of the flu. :(

it was a pleasure, as always to see jsf and we shared a drink before my "therapist" arrived. our little natasha was pleased (and surprised) to see jsf and after an approprate interval (jsf, being the gentleman he is, probably noticed me pawing the ground and grunting after my stint in eu sex prison) he departed leaving me with the prospect of a nice 18 hour lt gfe.

got to hand it to this girl, ragged out from the flight, getting sick, and she (and mr. cialis) managed four shots out of me.

number three was one of those half-asleep 3am "hey, you are lying next to a lovely young lady" kind of things that n responded to like a champ.

i met up with bravo for a chat and lunch the next day, and he shamed me by getting me to fall for the old "i have to use the rest facilities" ploy to grab the check. thanks, but i felt pretty silly falling for that one.

we ended up having an ad-hoc mongers meeting at the york where jsf and i met chris611. great to meet you guy, i trust you had a good time with irina´s friend. mecrazy also made an unscheduled appearance. great to see so many friendly faces.

chris and i did hit rockafellas (by the way, no door charges at either venue, it was a weekday, ymmv) as i wanted to say hello to my psuedo-stalker irina and see how she was doing. chris was scanning the crowds and seemed to settle on a tall, lithe, sweet looking girl (name?) who knew irina as well. with the increased comfort factor (all were vouched for) chris made his departure and i had yet another chat with little miss iloveyou.

i give up, she still has delusions (i was not going to pull her) and decided to meet her the next day at a shopping center for coffee. as it turned out, she was busy the next afternoon with something (some girlfriend´s birthday) so i took my excuse and bagged it. after two days of sms and phone stalking, i call-screened her on the phone. hopefully, this message will not go unheeded.

in the meantime, i had n over every afternoon and leaving every morning at 8. the bell staff do not know what to think. one actually chatted with her while she was waiting for a taxi and asked her about her "boyfriend", and with consumate balls, she said "not boyfriend, husband!" and the guy almost shat himself, bowing and scraping and apologising. gotta love the big lie. ;)

tiring trip owing to illness, but quite enjoyable all the same. great to see jsf, bravo, mecrazy and meet chris611.

let´s do it again soon gents.

cheers,

sporadic

Sporadic

05-06-05, 09:28

El Suave
now I know what the Ukrainian pro I picked up at Regal means when she says “I have a balance.” Some girls start with only $2-3k, most between 3-6. The girls are responsible for 50-100Dhs daily for food and lodging and are often offered spending money against the balance, obviously locking them in long term. Serious "company store" action.

Another rather sick twist on the exploitation that I was not aware of is the passport scam. As the passports are taken away by the "arrangers," the girls all of the sudden get a call from some woman asking if they are "Miss Petrova" or whatever, and quoting her details. They then offer to sell her a passport when she wants to leave. It would appear that they take new girls´ passports, change the photo and sell them to girls who want to leave (with a recent arrival visa stamp.)

So we have this ponzi scam going full tilt, with recycled passports. Nice huh? All of this will stop with the introduction of biometrics at immigrations.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Sporadic

05-06-05, 12:35

but tonight I had to meet my pal who spent an hour at immigration queueing.If you are a regular visitor to DXB, I suggest you consider getting an "e-gate" card. It only takes about ten minutes (upstairs in the arrival hall 24/7) and for 150dhs you now have fast track entry and exit without the queue. They can take the photo right there, all you need is the passport and 150dhs (and a fingerprint to scan ;) ) The card is good for 2 years and has the legal effect of a visa (not a bad thing to have in your wallet.)

Cheers,

Sporadic

11Bravo

05-06-05, 12:55

I thought I'd seen most everything in dxb, but that's the great thing about dxb. Can still surprise you. Last week, while making my way to York, saw 4 or 5 girls crossing the street from Al Ain parking lot to ShoeMart lot, stuck on the center divider, waiting for traffic to pass.

Well, last night, I saw, for myself, the error of the above assumption. The girls are not waiting to cross. THAT, the concrete center island, IS the new street hangout for working girls!!! Leaving York at midnight, there were 2 or 3 girls on the sidewalk of the ShoeMart parking lot. Same for Al Ain parking lot. IN THE MIDDLE of the road, on the island, there were 15 to 20, showing what they've got. Gone is the discreet car screens of the parking lot, the girls loitering between cars, waiting for a customer to pass. They were all out on show on the new runway. God knows how a punter makes contact; hopefully NOT by stopping in the left, fast lane to make a deal. But, this being dxb, you never know. My guess would be that a punter would pull into one of the parking lots, and wave the girl over, no doubt after briefly stopping in the street to signal his interest. Absolutely amazing!!! Wish I had my camera; no one would believe it. I was really expecting police buses to arrive at any minute. Exact opposite of discreet: BLATANT.

Quote: from dubaisleuth on 7:39 am on May 5, 2005[br]I noticed that the massive Dubai stand did not highlight the WG scene - surely one of the city's biggest attractions? I mean to say, it beats wadi bashing and traditional stick dancing any day.I think THAT display was just held on Mankhool road last night at midnight.

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Walked into York last night. Immediately spotted, Jenny, a top class Cyclone girl. Got a big smile (damn, she has a beautiful one) from her as she recognized me. She asked what I was doing there; I replied that was a better question for her. She said "sometimes boyfriend go Cyclone; I go York tonight". She was head and shoulders (certainly NOT literally) above anyone else at York. She wandered off with a girlfriend. I knew I had pulled her over a year ago, but couldn't remember what the service was like (definitely have to get my portable database working). Took a stroll around; did not see either of the 2 girls I was looking for.

Saw Jenny again. Thinking this was my lucky night, went over and asked what her plans were for the night (hey, maybe she was out for herself - yea right). She just flashed that beautiful smile as she said, "I don't know; you take me tonight?". Her outfit stunning, showing off her tight little bod. Database be damned, decided I'd go for it, LT. She was handing her keyring to her girlfriend, and pulling out her sweater from her purse (could NOT be seen walking down the road in THAT top). But, to avoid any misunderstandings, wanted to clarify price (knew I'd paid 500 over a year ago). She straightforwardly said, "700". Now, that was NOT wishful thinking, or her asking price. I knew that was her price. I told her, "This York, NOT Cyclone". She just flashed the dazzling smile, said, "No?", and flitted away, giving me the departing glimpse of the half-naked back. A few regrets...

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I had sent a couple of sms messages to 2 girls on the to-do list. One never responded, the other did; had to refresh her memory of who I was. Called her; she would be at York. After Jenny departed (someone should have had one hell of a time last night), called Amy. She was either in York (but not in disco), or near York, or something. She asked where I was; told her I was in York's lobby. She said she'd be there in 5 minutes. Why waiting, I stuck my head in the "Music Room", straight ahead from the hotel's entrance. I had seen it before, but never paid it much attention. Went over, and stuck my head inside. Pool table, small room, with a live band belting out rock&roll hits. Typical Philipino cover band, but, nice change from upstairs; small and intimate venue. 4 or 5 WG's around; mainly filled with guys listening to music.

I went back to the lobby, saw Amy coming the other way. She had her mobile out; just as we passed, exchanged smiles, she not stopping as I started to laugh. She gave me a quizical look; I just pulled out my ringing mobile. 1 minute discussion in the lobby about duration/price; this time, I'd let menu take care of itself.

And that's why you get her number; makes it so easy to hook up later.

We went back into the Music Room for an hour. NOT the quality of the old SeaView band, but still... (One of the backup singers, the slender, darkhair, with back tatoo, extremely hot). As Amy said, on a Thursday night, it was not the jam-packed, everybody and his brother there that York 1st floor is. I did see a FEW WG's present. One CIS was doing a very hot dance over by the bar, pulling up her blouse (one of those tops that just had 1 button at the bra line; with an inverted, open V down to her waist). I thought it was coming off; close, but not quite (performance gave her the chance to show off her red bra). Very nice show; if I wasn't aready occupied, I would have been tempted.

Couple of older, but looking nice, girls would take turns playing pool. I certainly would NOT go there looking for someone (1st floor still the place for that), but, once you've made your selection, a nice place to catch some tunes without the crowd. Or, on entry or non-successful exit to 1st floor, worth sticking your head in; you might see something. In talking with Amy, some of the girls will hang here when upstairs becomes too much (similiar to the 2 bars at Imperial, though not as many here in the second bar).

11Bravo

05-06-05, 13:44

Just some comments on the last few posts.

11 bravo, Sorry you have the same luck as I amThe point I was trying to make was that a BAD experience one night makes a GOOD story the next week. EVERYONE has bad experiences; the trick is, read and learn here from the mistakes of others to minimize those occurrances yourself. Then, go out and try. Everyone's a first-timer once.

When we visited dubai last year the prices in cyclone for the night were 500. This was no probs every1 was happy. But 1000 sound a bit steep shit. A few friends have just got back from Dubai last week and said the prices were still about 500 in Cyclone for stunners.True market economy; whatever the market will bear THAT night. When you make your offer, she will do a quick calculation on what are the chances of her doing better during the time you are taking her (ST or LT). Lot of variables go into that calculation. If you're lucky, it's favorable to you. If not, you move on. But my experience (limited), of late, is that the stunners are refusing anything less than 700 LT at Cyclone.

...I left immediately to york. I prefer this place more than Cyclone, because everything seems more natural to me. ...
Next day I had soem spare time and went around noon to the THIT bar in the Astoria hotel. Noon, is just to early. The first girls came in around half past noon. I had to leave for another meeting, but chacked again around 6PM for an afternoon beer. The place was full of girls now. I felt even a bit scared; I was the only European in there with about 50 hookers. But this gave me a great price advantage: I agreed with a Chinese girl for ane hour fun for AED 150 (and taxi costs). Good sex, but a bit average. But what u want for AED 150. Agree, York more low key than Cyclone.

For TGIT, noon is too early; 1:30 to 2:00 better. As posted MANY times, remember, it CLOSES from 4 to 6.

Yes, can get some early evening deals at TGIT or Jockey's. I would avoid TGIT or Poncho Villas (1st floor Astoria) in the evening. I was there ONCE from 11 to midnight; NOTHING of interest for me. Just better places around.

Nice FR for your first post. Wish more posters like you (lessons learned).

Headed back to Jockeys about 10.30 pm this evening. Noticed tonight that there appears to be a cover charge for some people! However,drinks are the cheapest of all the bars I've come across. The Romanian floor staff are the most efficient in Dubai.

Same faces but a few real good lookers hiding in the corners. Less pushy here than in other places which suits me as I like to make the initial approaches.

Saw 2 girls together that were over near the DJ stand and got talking to them. Turned out that they were twins from the Ukraine. No OWO which was a problem for me but the chance of twins for 400 each for the night was a great choice. Between tonight, Wednesday which was an alcohol-free night and my last night on the Saturday we had plenty of sex and laughs.

Went to dinner on the Wednesday and Saturday which made it all the more fun as I got to hear the story of their lives. They are very entertaining girls with a lifetime if stories.Cover charges for "non-whites" typical of a lot of places; Cyclone, Hyatt charge EVERYONE. Certainly discriminatory, but does serve to keep the lookie-lous out. At least at York, Imperial, drinks are included. My advice: buy your own drinks at York during Happy Hour (before 10), then use the tickets after that.

Will debate Jockey's drink prices being the cheapest. York during happy hour, I believe, beats Jockeys. After Happy Hour, couldn't say, but my guess is still 3 or 4 dhs less (obviously, highly dependent on what you drink). If I want to DRINK, I buy at the ARRIVAL Duty Free, empty the hotel's mini-bar, replacing with my OWN stuff, pull a friend from the bar, then back to drink at leisure in a relaxing atmosphere.

Yes, Jockey's more a drinking/meeting bar than a meat-market, so you have to approach her just about everytime (can tell when business is bad when they approach you).

Twins? You dog. Does make it a lot more fun when you click and can enjoy conversations. Just adds a dimension to the experience.

Some nice FR's; enjoyed reading. Thanks for taking the time to post.

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Obviously, with the eti### block, many fewer reports from residents than before. But dxb will be dxb; the same places serve up the same action, whether she is there or not; someone else will be.

Irish Lad

05-06-05, 17:37

Hi all,

Thank you first of all to Sporadic on the advice about the immigration card.
With 8/10 arrivals in Dubai for me a year, that will be well worth it!

Thanks also to 11Bravo concerning the drinks advice. I arrived in Dubai this time and bought a bottle of Johnnie Walker which remained unopened and a bottle of Bacardi at arrivals which only lasted a few days. Got my mate to buy another when he arrived a few days later. That was polished off on the "alcohol free" night with the twins from the Ukraine. I also got my act together this time and stocked up on a crate of cans of Coca Cola and some juices from Carrefour. Right amount but wrong mix. Ended up gifting the Whisky to the twins. Funnily, it's the whisky that is usually the most popular.

Tonight was seafood night in Le Meridien. A great feast for 150dhs! Took my mate there before flying by KuBu to give the "tour" to him. Maybe I'm usually sober at this time but KuBu is a classy kind of place. I presume prices are as per the others but I will confirm at the end of August.

Met KaptainNeil in Jockeys for a quick drink but as I had my almost newbie friend with me, we remained in Jockeys to check out the talent.

Finally got to nail the large breasted girl called Sabrina. OWO, rimming and a quick anal shot were all included. She is a strange sort of girl but well worth a revisit. She drinks vodka and 7up but not at the same time! First a sip of straight vodka then a sip from her can of 7up?

Stayed the night but I got an awful fright in the morning when she was dressed in the black Muslim stuff with no makeup!

My friend who took her friend from Iran got the same fright. He couldn't bring her to his hotel ( Regal Plaza) so they went to some No Star place near to Hyatt Regency...he thinks.

Anyway, the twins were very astonished that I would go for her as they wondered what I saw in a "big as cow" kind of girl. It was hard for me to translate my needs in to "girl from Ukraine" language as they are all pretty proud about how they look.

Anyway, enjoy the hot summer everyone. I'll be in Odessa to watch the Eurovision as I couldn't get tickets and then to Kiev in June as 1 of the girls I had lined up on a dating site insists I come to her bed and keep her satisfied.

it's all work!

El Suave

05-06-05, 19:58

So we have this ponzi scam going full tilt, with recycled passports. Nice huh? All of this will stop with the introduction of biometrics at immigrations.Sporadic,

Enlightening insights on the inner workings and employment of CIS pros in the DXB arena.

In the further pursuit of understanding the intricacies of a business we all hold so dear, I’m gonna delineate a smattering of assumptions, while fully well acknowledging that assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

To expound on the points which you so articulately put forth, I’m gonna assume that a CIS pro’s first point of contact is in her home capital or province. In other words, this needy babe whom most of us hope to fuck is firstly approached by a handler in Slav Ville, CIS and enticed with a $3K loan. Needless to say, the terms of said loan are doubtless oppressive.

Secondly, due to our CIS babe’s desperate financial state, she agrees to said abysmal terms, spreads them and grudgingly fucks most of us while in the DXB.

Now come the terms of repayment, the exploitations and leverage the handler brings to bear on this CIS pro we all love to fondle. And this is where I become clueless.

What happens when the balance is squared? Does she go back to Slav Ville with a surplus of funds, breaks even or is fucked by us, the handler, passport buyers, as well as the authorities?

Or does our pro go on endless visa runs, likes the constant flow of income, becomes a jaded and hardened hooker who’s no logger capable of leading a wholesome life? The reason I ask is because some CIS pros I spoke with had visions of going back home and forming sensible businesses, are their visions the product of delusion or attainable?

Lastly, how is Schezwan different from Slav Ville?

El Suave

05-06-05, 23:51

Public servants are and should be known to everyone, it’s their constituents who are and shall remain anonymous ;)

El Suave

05-07-05, 00:57

On second thought, you’re right, DXB Immigration is completely clueless about who’s entering its borders. The mere quarter of a million young and single women who enter Dubai annually are known to all port authorities as physicians, nuns, diplomats and UN personnel.

In the eyes of Emirates Immigration all these women are not hookers, unbeknownst to the ministry of interior, they’re entering Dubai under false pretenses. Only you and I know they’re hookers. The police patrols that pass after 2.30 AM at the corner of Khalid Ibn Walid and Regal, get a good facial identity and roll on because they’re certain these are good girls on an innocent girls’ night out.

And the pack of girls who don’t seem to flinch when they see a patrol car, are confident because they’re assured the police know every single one of them is an IBM executive. There’s no unspoken secret in play at all here.

It’s a net picture of a non Muslim hooker no Emirati gives a fuck about which will summon the plague on all our houses, you’re right.

Sporadic

05-07-05, 04:52

To the best of my knowledge, and this is only anecdotal, it usually goes like this:

Girl returns from DXB, others in need in the hometown see this, and ask how it is done. They are put in touch with the boss in DXB. If agreement is reached, the boss in DXB will set it up with an "arranger" who will assist with the passport and tickets, with the understanding that this goes on the balance.

DXB boss meets girl at SHJ and shuffles them off to accomodations. Basic start up costs (hairdressing/makeup/clothes etc.) go on the balance. Some crash course English and Arabic are taught, and three days later, on your back to pay off your balance. Once said balance is paid off, you work 50/50.

All this time you are still paying 50-100Dhs daily for "upkeep" and tell the folks back home you work in a restaurant or shop. Extra money sent home via Western Union is explained by way of a "boyfriend."

When you have acheived your financial goals (recall the part of the world we are talking about, a decent home may be had for 5kU.S.) you pay your overtaying Visa fine (presuming you have not been picked up by CID on an immigration or morals charge) and home you go. Hopefully with some gold trinkets from some star-struck John, and possibly 5-8k in the bank.

As for the Chinese, the ones I have spoken to relate a near identical story, but without the balance in many cases. Accomodations are arranged ad hoc via the international sisterhood of Chinese providers.

What I have NOT heard of (except with sub-continentals) is the classic bait and switch job offer. Every CIS and Chinese I know, knew exactly what they were getting into.

Yes, financial exploitation takes place at all levels, including free service for local LE officers and the previously mentioned passport scam, but at the end of the day, they go home quite well off in local terms.

There are, I am sure, many exceptions to this suggested mechanism, but I have heard this particular story, almost verbatim, from no less than 10 girls in DXB.

Cheers,

Sporadic

El Suave

05-07-05, 11:39

Wow Sporadic, you little fiend you, that’s one sexy operative, lucky you. Now if one can conceal the face this artistically, the general picture will remain intact, nice.

11Bravo

05-07-05, 11:54

Or does our pro go on endless visa runs, likes the constant flow of income, becomes a jaded and hardened hooker who’s no logger capable of leading a wholesome life? The reason I ask is because some CIS pros I spoke with had visions of going back home and forming sensible businesses, are their visions the product of delusion or attainable?

Lastly, how is Schezwan different from Slav Ville?Will agree with Sporadic's post. It is possible, I know several CIS girls who have successfully returned home, one with a beauty parlor she bought and stocked from her earnings here. EVERY girl I've talked with views it as a means to some end.

I'd say the difference between Schezwan and Slav is family. Most of the CIS I've met are more self-interested, sending money back to take care of their kid while looking out for themselves. For chinese, much more likely she is supporting her kid, her parents, and/or the brother (or sister) in school, as if her life was expendible as long as the family IS taken care of.

As one very successful chinese girl told me: "You, you get extra money, you go on vacation, buy something special. We, we send money home, then sit and think how we can earn MORE money". I've been out partying with the CIS (with them picking up the tab for a girl's birthday, Russian holiday, etc.). Never had that with the chinese (maybe they don't have so many meaningful holidays).

Given I meet the girls I know in bars, I've only read about the bait and switch scams pulled on the Indians/Pakistanis/Banglideshis/Sri Lankens/etc. Every CIS and chinese I've met knew what they were coming for, based on seeing what a previous visitor brought home. Like Sporadic says, a small amount to us is a large nest egg for them.

Amazing how we, in the west, take free schooling for granted.

Sporadic

05-07-05, 22:27

Wow, your very own thread.

Yes, L is a sweety, and it is not art, it is photoshop.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Koolman

05-11-05, 07:43

I was in Dubai recently for the day and with the help of a member got a contact for a massage service, which is really my cup of tea. I much prefer room service and called this contact.

Abolsutely brilliant GFE. Loved every minute of it. it was Dh200 for the massage in my hotel room and paid her Dh 200 for extras. I know it sounds too much for ST, but never had to step out of the room for a minute. No taxi fare, no drinks, nothing. I know members prefer to have a nice time in a bar, talk and scope for a good catch, but i am more into relaxing in my room and having the goods delivered to me ! I took my chances and the result was brilliant. I have never had such true GFE ever ! Throughout there was a sense of old ex-GF kind of experiece. And the lady was compleyely going wild, the sounds, the orgasms, i miss it already !

Also check my post for Traders Hotel in the hotels link. Never had the slightest problem for the girl to come up to my room.

Thank you WSG and thank you members for the information. It is definately a great service to humanity !

Guillomme

05-12-05, 04:02

I ome now for at least five years in Dubai, my anual visits are approx 7 - 8 times.
Normal only entrance fee at the disco's is only charged to locals and Indian people.
Until now I never paid entrace fee in York nor in Regal. Last Sunday I wanted to enter Regal and I was stopped, they wanted an entrace fee of DHS 50. After a discussion with tha guys I went because I refuse to pay in a disco where I burn a lot of money every time.

The Imperial Suites losend up in their entrance fee policy, the last times, since the end of Ramadan 2004 I was not stopped once.

Only Cyclone and Ramade I never entered without paying entrance fee.

11Bravo

05-12-05, 13:40

Last night, Wed., hoofed it up to York to hook up with JSF (always a pleasure) and Expatcat, who I'd only known via his posts. Very nice guy, and always interesting to speak about countries in common. Enjoyed meeting you.

Also met Superman; likewise, nice to put a face to a name. Superman had spotted a target, but guess he was a little late to the mark, so lost out. He left to pursue other faces/places.

York a bit strange, for me anyway, lately. Certainly see a lot of the SAME faces. And, in fact, some familiar ones were back after several months, they just returning from the home visit. BUT, of the last 3 I'd pulled, not a sign. Not saying I'd pull them again, but not saying I wouldn't, either.

[Hint]: If you are interested, get her mobile; makes finding her another time so much easier.

Truth is, none so compelling I'd call any to see where they were that night. One girl who is an itch I haven't been able to scratch, only seeing her when I can't pull, was nowhere in evidence. Maybe she has a steady weekend booking. Always a toss up: it's becoming more and more frustrating not hooking up with her, so, with so many other choices, is it worth it? Yet, the very act of denial does, in itself, heighten the desire. Always next week.

One of the girls who had just returned shadowed me (class, not trying to barge in). Was keeping her as my backup, just in case nothing new interested me. Again, the same conundrum: pull a known girl (but she is known), or try someone new? Others that I'd seen cute, but nothing compelling.

Attractive girl came up, said she was a friend of JoJo, a girl I'd pulled awhile back; JoJo wanted to pass a message to me, asking about copies of photos I'd taken of her; she was at home tonight. Truth of the matter is, the only JoJo I remember went back to china last year, so was rather embarassingly in the dark as to who Jojo is. I didn't have any Jojo phone number on record (which is a BAD sign) , but the name was a working name, so... Will just have to see who she is when she's around, in person. Expatcat did pull the friend; will be interesting to read his FR.

Rosa, Ferosa?, was also present: the plaid, school girl mini, knee high boots, blouse unbuttoned half way down, clearly displaying her ample rack as she did her gyrations to attract the moths to flame. Very tempting, but, for sure, a pump and dump, and I was not interested in that experience tonight.

On the other hand... a new (to me) chinese face chatted up Expatcat, but he was not interested; she left before I had a chance to make eye contact (guess we know who is the better looking of us two. Nothing like being the step-child...). Saw her later chatting to another punter; looked like the deal would go down. But, to my pleasure, saw her standing alone 20 minutes later, so, after the eye contact and a nod, she was standing next to me. Usual litany of "where you from, how long you stay dubai, where you stay", etc.

She did LT. Checked the menu; all good. Asked the price. She replied, "200... (now, I'm thinking - stupid me - what doesn't she understand about LT? 200 dhs good for ST, but... just about then, she finished the sentence with...) DOLLARS". I did a quick reality check; this was York, not Cyclone. She was nice, but no superstar. Market was not skewed for sellers... I just was wondering what she didn't understand about "I live here"; guess it never hurts to ask. I just politely told her "Good Luck".

She then asked for a more reasonable, but still high, 500. I was non-committal for awhile, checking out other options. Finally I mentioned 400. She agreed. As we did not know each other, also mentioned pay after. Again, agreed.

Back to my place. Certainly not the GFE; no kissing (I thought I'd brushed my teeth). Oh well. To the bedroom, where once we were naked and showered, the subject of money came up, as in, "You give money now". Oops. I politely declined. She started on the "I'm a businesswoman..." and asked if I was afraid she would cheat me, do a runner. I really wasn't worried about that. I just said it was my policy to pay after, and she had agreed to it. She was asking how many women had cheated me; by that time, I was getting out of bed, pulling on my clothes, saying we'd just go back to York. She nicely decided to accept the plan as is, but maybe "If good service, more money?". I don't mind incentive plans...

Was good service, round 1, massage, round 2. In the morning, no hesitation for the morning's wake up; as she had the rack, took advantage of it. She then took a shower, followed immediately by me. While in the shower, I heard the bed move; always plus points when she makes the bed for you. However, to my surprise, on returning to the bedroom, instead of finding her dressed and ready to depart, she was back in bed, still naked. 10 years ago, I could have cranked off a 4th, but age has taken it's toll, and I, with other obligations, could not wait for a recycle. However, I certainly appreciated the thought... and very nice to have a "more" offered rather than a "less" experience.

PS: On leaving York past midnight, only a few bait on the concrete island; sharks circling in both parking lots. Perhaps that's a new safety measure: better to be exposed on the island than surrounded by riff-raff and lookie-lous in the parking lot. Certainly those would not risk the spotlight of the middle of the street.

My Kapitan

05-13-05, 08:32

Price of everything in Dubai is increasing; the rate at my hotel apartment just increased by a staggering 30%. My usual haunt Rockafella’s has followed the trend and has unfortunately started to charge everyone 50dhms entrance. However the price includes 2 free drinks (except Thursday’s – only one) and if you buy your drinks for cash before 11pm and use the tickets after 11pm you only lose 10 dhms, so I can live with it and in any case the quality of the CIS’s continues to impress and the band is excellent.

Most of the girls are looking for 500dhms minimum for all night, all try 800 -1000 as an opener. I guess they are suffering from price inflation as well. Anyway on the positive side the girls are still plentiful. I prefer the Russians as a better GFE is always found in my experience. Rockafella’s has quite a few new faces now.

It was good to meet a fellow mongerer in Jockeys on my second night in town and enjoy a beer. Lot’s of regulars in Jockey’s – I noticed another member commented on the return of Margarita. Additionally I saw Julia who has not been around for some time and also Nana has been back for a while.

On the third night some friends of mine were in Dubai for some R&R and I met them in Jockeys at 9. We moved to the Regal at 1030pm.

I had been eyeing a very good looking redhead the previous night. Anyway went to say hello and she claimed to have been in town for 10 days only (doubtful as she knew the rules of the game very well, although her English was weak), in any event I had not seen her before this trip. My mate was also interested in her and the negotiations began. I was with my regular girl and we were looking for a foursome, which she was not adverse to, but started at 1000 for a short time, she spun a story about just dancing (no sex) for a local for 1500 on the Prophet’s birthday as a play for more than we were offering.

After quite a few drinks both girls dancing together on the floor, much to everyone’s pleasure, the eventual price was 700 to her for the foursome – all night
(I was with my regular), we left Rockafellas at around 1230. A supply of vodka was obtained from my place and we went to my mate’s hotel, minor hassle on the door but the reception knows me as I have stayed there many times, Christina had to show a passport copy – mine did not as she has stayed with me there often and we said we would leave in an hour or two. See the photo section.

A good time was had by all BBJ’s, safe sex and the girls both DATY for our entertainment. Good as our word we left at 0400 to keep the management sweet. Later we met my friends at Waxy’s for Friday brunch, apparently Christina left at 11am after servicing my mate a couple more times including some unusual use of the bedside furniture…

Sadly the experience was not repeated as she refused the same money for a second foursome on the following night, my mate even offered 1500 (plus food and drinks) to her to stay for the remainder of his visit but she refused, so he took her alone for 500dhms but he said she didn’t put her back into it and complained of being tired (and sore from the previous nights work with us!), her poor attitude losing her any further business in our quarter. Currently in S Africa and then India. Looking forward to returning to Dubai in early June.

Lover II

05-13-05, 12:48

Where is Rockafella's?

I will be in Dubai in August. Can anyone give me a note, where I can find a map with some hotels shown on it?

Thanks,

Lover II

Member #2136

05-14-05, 16:00

I've been posting on the Saudi board, and will be going to DBX this thursday, unfortunately have to stay with family, so I have to get my action in the afternoons and someplace that has incalls.

So my questions are:
1- Are there any short time hotels/motels in DBX?
2- Is there any other place other that TGIT for afternoon nookie?
3- Is there any incall place?

Any help on any of the querys would be greatly apreciated

Meshal

05-15-05, 14:28

For afternoon pickups other than TGIT you can go to Admiral plaza if your into chinese , the place is just a two minute walk from TGIT, usually the place picks up at about 1 or 2.

hope this helps

11Bravo

05-15-05, 15:56

Some information wanted mates

Hi friends. Just some information on the SW scene in the Alain center and the Shoe Mart parking lots. It seems that LE swooped down and rounded up about 30 SW’s loitering there and about 15 Johns trying to strike a deal. They were all herded into the waiting vans and taken away. This was late in the night close to 3 am I think. No idea what happened next. A friend, who was in the area, saw all this. Even some cars were stopped and SW pulled out of those cars and the Johns, driving the cars, taken away. Only those alone in the cars were let go after some routine questions.

Todays’ 7Days paper had an item about busting a ring in Dubai and Ajman too. Things getting a bit hot for the talent and also for the Johns. Be careful guys. Be discreet, be alert.

On another note would like some information about the bars. I have noticed, many times on arriving at the bars, that there is invariably some delay for the arriving talent as their documents are examined before they are let in. The information I would like is if they check the passport copies of the talent or do they also ask for visa copies to ascertain if they are legally in the country like they have started doing in the hotels. Anyone has any low down on that? Any input mate.? Would appreciate the input urgently guys. There is a lady in distress involved.

JSF

Yes, I certainly was expecting THAT bust to happen. 4 to 20 girls, standing on the island in the middle of the street, was just TOO PUBLIC for passers-by. One thing when you're somewhat screened by parked cars in the parking lot, but another to be so brazen. Shame, really, as it's MY opinion they adopted that location as a defensive measure against the lookie-lous/harassers around. Even walking with a girl from York to your car is uncomfortable; just like packs of feral dogs.

As to examining documents, it USED to be, it was an age check (21), but these days, don't know. If anyone else does, post, and I'll pass on to JSF.
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1- Are there any short time hotels/motels in DBX?Best bet would be to ask the girl, explaining you want to use her place. If she knows of one, she will tell you (you will be expected to pick up that tab). Otherwise, move on.

Tony #1

05-16-05, 13:08

Dear Member 2136,

I think the best thing for you to do if your a bit rushed is to go into your hotel bathroom. lock the door and knock one out(means have a toss). Then go back to bed.

Worf1972

05-16-05, 14:20

For afternoon pickups other than TGIT you can go to Admiral plaza if your into chinese , the place is just a two minute walk from TGIT, usually the place picks up at about 1 or 2.

hope this helps
That is true. But you wont find to much of a selection there. Been there a couple of times in the last month or so and both times noticed only about 7-8 chinese ldies on duty. The quality is not that high too. And these same chinese ladies pop over to the TGIT after trying their luck in Admiral plaza for an hour or so.

Might be worth a look in case you dont see anything worthwhile in the TGIT.

11Bravo

05-16-05, 16:47

(Admiral Plaza) But you wont find to much of a selection there. Been there a couple of times in the last month or so and both times noticed only about 7-8 chinese ldies on duty. The quality is not that high too. And these same chinese ladies pop over to the TGIT after trying their luck in Admiral plaza for an hour or so.Due to their closeness, I'm sure ladies move from one to the other. I do know that punters, still wanting to drink when TGIT closes at 4, WILL move over to AP. No doubt, some ladies will follow.

I'd check afternoon's TGIT first, then AP, before 4. After 4, until 6, AP is the place.

Toton

05-16-05, 20:24

Tony, you make me laugh.

Kingkool

05-17-05, 08:44

I am pleased to be able to access this site from Dubai itself. Any senior member is welcome to request me for the method of bypassing the etisalat proxy.

As far as mongering experiences are concerned I have not visited all the usual bars and discos in the past 6 months but have tried a couple of pakistani babes through a contact given by a friend. The last experience was about 2 months earlier. I paid the madam AED 1200 for this absolute beauty whose name was either sonia or sonu and then checked into Meena Plaza hotel which was girl friendly. After that all I remember is that I had a really good time and the girl was very friendly and willing to do everything except anal.

I also learnt from the girl that a year earlier she used to perform as a dancer in the rush inn indian night club but this new job obviously pays better. Her earlier profession made for a very interesting point of discussion and I learnt a lot about the dance bars in Dubai and about the crazy dudes who visit these bars and spend thousands in a night just to get a girls telephone number.

In future I shall post experiences when they are more fresh in my memory and I would want all the senior members to get back in action with a little help from my side of course

Tony #1

05-17-05, 13:35

No probs goolam. Thought the forum could do with a bit of humour.

Did anyone see Sheikh Mohammad in Cyclone? He was hadggling over 100 Dirhams.

Powerpuff Boy

05-17-05, 14:14

Hello All,

Am an avid reader of this posts and HAVE JUST BEEN UPGRADED :) I am looking for contacts for ladies. If anyone can share please do PM me. While I check out the DXB scene, I would definately start posting my views and reviews over here.

My preference is CIS.

Thx,

Power Puff X

Meshal

05-17-05, 20:48

Another spot to check for afternoon mongering is the St. George hotel , usually this place picks up at about 4:00 , the selection is mostly cis and iranian. don't expect this place to be filled with girls like TGIT usually there is about 10 girls working there max , the range is about 6 or 7.The bar is mostly oriented for expatriate arabs and the prices the girls charge are a bit over the top.

Enjoy

Kingkool

05-19-05, 09:20

I have received quite a few pm requesting method for bypassing the proxy here in UAE. I just hope its passed onto our mongering brothers in UAE at the earliest so they can add their valuable contributions.

I'm also wondering why there is no mention of the 'Premiere' at the Hyatt in this forum. About a year back I can vouch for the fact that it was a hot pickup joint with plenty of good quality CIS and Africans. The price range of the girls and the entrance fee was similar to that at cyclone although cyclone always has had more variety and quantity than any of the other places in Dubai.

Meshal

05-19-05, 11:18

I am guessing most of the people in this board are probably people that visit Dubai on vacations or buissness trips, so if you guys need directions to find hotels like Cyclone or York, Astoria and so on, then go to this website www.dubaiezguide.com , this will greatly help you out if you need to pick a hotel where the action is.

11Bravo

05-19-05, 14:23

Finally made it back to SeaView Hotel to check out the band. Rumors are true; the Rock&Roll band is back from last year (most of them, anyway); the female guitarist certainly is, plus at least 1 of the singers (some may like their desert camo outfits). Still belt out pretty good sets of R&R.

The band currently playing the Music (Room? Box?, whatever), ground floor York, not as good, but they too can belt some good sounds (like their take on "Zombie"; the dancers especially).

Anyway, Wed. night, made it to SeaView just before 11. Bad timing; caught 1.5 songs of the band before they went on their 45 minute break. But at least I recognized some members, so knew it would be worth the wait for their next set (if it was a different band, I'd move on to York).

Not crowded, but not empty either. 12-15 chinese, couple africans, 3-4 CAR's. One chinese tried to latch on to me, but nothing particularly outstanding, so EVENTUALLY she took the hint and moved on. Another chinese had caught my eye; a 2nd marked as backup. However, neither was really actively marketing; my first choice simply dancing to the music in the corner. SeaView is an expecially nice place if you don't like agressive marketing.

1/2 way through the band's set, moved over as she had not moved. Usual litany, some nice, hand's on marketing with the neck and shoulder rubs. About that time, 4 CAR's came in. One, without my glasses, bore a striking resemblence to Jockey's Margarita, so much so that I excused myself from Miss Dance and chased her down. It was not Margarita; her lack of english noticable. By the way her friend was leading her around, literally by the hand, marked her down as a newbie. Very nicely dressed; if not for her companions in their wg outfits (no doubt THERE), one might think she was just there for the music. No problem with any walk of shame with her.

Back to Miss Dance. Me, a romantic I'm not; I like to know what's on the menu, just so there are no misunderstandings later on from either side. Subtle, I'm not. "You suck?" (suck being used as a verb here, NOT as an adjective). Here, I ran into trouble. She had limited english; the emphasis on limited. She did not seem to understand. So moved on to number of shots. The "tomorrow morning..." only brought a response, "Tomorrow?". This was going nowhere fast. I expected her to call in a mentor, but none was forthcoming.

She seemed to sense my exasperation, moving off to rejoin her chinese friends at a table of punters. Did not look like she was going to return, perhaps thinking I was a lookie-lou. Myself, I was debating... The Margarita look-alike growing more and more tempting... After all, if it was going to be an english battle...

Decided to take one last run at my first choice. One has to be careful NOT to get into the "kid in the candy store" mode. Moved close to the table of punters; she returned. Giving up all hope of knowing what was for dinner, I just asked price. She had no trouble with that enlish; "500" being the reply. I just smiled and turned back to the band.

NOW, she brought in the mentor. Deal for 400 LT agreed to. Was asked if I had my own condoms. Back to my place. No mention of money up front. On retiring to the bedroom, bit of foreplay, then asked again about "Suck?". As she was still not comprehending, went into pantomime. THAT, she understood; look of disgust on her face as she replied emphatically, "NO like." OK, so it was NOT going to be a debate about cbj/bbbj; it was nbj. I never make them do something they are unwilling to do (after all, how much fun is that). I actually can't remember the last time the nbj's happened. Oh well, my fault for not finding out her menu beforehand.

FS was nice. She then seemed to go into sleep mode; took several proddings to get the promised massage (nothing special). I will say that the morning wakeup, FS, was NOT a problem.

Question: Am I missing something here? This week, like last week, after the deed done, I'm off to the bathroom to take a shower. I hear the bed move; I figure she's up, in her clothes, and making the bed. I know she knows I'm in the shower because she came in to use the toilet. However, when I return, she's still in bed (although now in her bra and panties; last week, she was still naked). For me, the key is, if I'm taking a shower... I don't take a shower between shots. Nice of them to think I can crank another one out, but I really don't have time for the recyle; I have to get on with my day.

With the nbj, didn't bother to get her number, and I'm a bit shaky on the name.

The good news is: the band is back. Like before, not a lot of wg's, but still a few for all tastes, after your ears begin to hurt too much. By 1, fairly even mix of chinese/CAR's, with a few russians. Did see several statuesque africans - tall and lean. Tempting, but just not enough to overcome the statistical risk of poor service. Next time, think I'll try and opt for a CAR.

11Bravo

05-19-05, 14:32

Am an avid reader of this posts ... I am looking for contacts for ladies.Always glad to see new members posting; nice to get a fresh perspective.

However, there certainly seems to be 2 types of new posters: The "I'm new; here's my FR" The "I'm new; please send contacts"I've got more contacts than I can ever use; here's a start (sorry to steal someone else's gag line): 04-G0T0-CYCLONE.

I think you'd be hard pressed to NOT come out with a mobile full of contacts just by visiting any one of CITY bars for a couple of hours. With all the info about WHERE to make your own contacts, just makes me wonder some people's definition of "avid".

El Suave

05-19-05, 20:40

a romantic I'm not; I like to know what's on the menu, just so there are no misunderstandings later on from either side. Subtle, I'm not. "You suck?" (suck being used as a verb here, NOT as an adjective). Here, I ran into trouble. She had limited english; the emphasis on limited. She did not seem to understand. So moved on to number of shots.One way to avoid probing what’s on the menu and being sure you’ll get everything your heart desires without asking, enquiring, nit picking, preempting and getting lost in the translation is to be a good looking, in shape male. If you’re blessed with this quality, and not many of us are, the girls will acquiesce to anything you’ve in mind and forget all about premiums.

BraveBoy79

05-20-05, 13:47

Wandered around the 'golden trianlge' last weekend and observed that street action has turned much quieter. Probably LE is feared roaming around the place and birds have gone in their nests. Entered York, I like better than Regal because less smoke. After a few rounds found an Iranian girl (first time an Iranian encounter). She was cute, around 25. Agreed on 400 for the night. After this conversation, money issue never came up. She was very friendly, bit of shy (she mentioned that she is not a pro but does it sometimes only). She mentioned that this was her first time at York, she had been to Cyclone onle. She was very fair and extremely soft/velvety smooth skin. She didn't agree on bbbj but only cbj. That was ok for me. After first round, we fell asleep. She got up in the morning and started playing with me, I woke up with her soft touches. It didn't take much time for me to get ready and another round.

Overall experience 8. It was a different experience compared to regular CIS or Chinese babes.

Sporadic

05-20-05, 14:05

I will take the bait.

In my experience, most p4p girls respond more to decent treatment than studly looks. I base this on the fact that I have almost never had menu problems and am far from studly. ;)

I will grant that a handsome devil may attract more initial attention in the club, it is back in the room where personality (and money!) can count more.

Reality says these girls have seen someone better (in any way you choose to interpret that word) at some point, but NICE customers do seem to be in the minority. I get wonderful service (at reasonable prices) from some stunning A-list types, and I know it is not because of my physical makeup or budding youth.

Cheers,

Sporadic

El Suave

05-20-05, 16:40

I couldn’t agree with you more Sporadic, politeness, deference and humane treatment of babes may very well trump good looks. Now comes the question of motives though, and it goes like this: are you destined for sainthood because of your innate benevolence? Or is being super cordial with the pros a mean to a prodigious creamy end? ;)

One thing troubles me though, and it’s the question of paying “reasonable prices” as a result of being super nice. Now one would assume a deal would be reached at some venue prior to you being able to show all the niceties and bring them to bear. I rarely see a pro giving a discount to a punter in a midst of a deal just cuz he’s super nice, the concessions for your humane treatment usually come after a price has been fixed. Nor are these concessions monetary, they usually entail extra services rendered.

So maybe the reasonable prices you’re able to secure are a result of good negotiating skills rather than decorous behavior, either way, bravo. :)

Faisal78

05-20-05, 19:00

In Admiral there is a group of Georgian girls that does not come daily but there are ranked 7-8, specially on thursdays they come there.

That is true. But you wont find to much of a selection there. Been there a couple of times in the last month or so and both times noticed only about 7-8 chinese ldies on duty. The quality is not that high too. And these same chinese ladies pop over to the TGIT after trying their luck in Admiral plaza for an hour or so.

Might be worth a look in case you dont see anything worthwhile in the TGIT.

Sporadic

05-20-05, 20:04

Totally selfish on my part Mr. S. I enjoy "experiences" and I think I get a better one with a little consideration.

The "nice guy" part comes in only when we have returned to my hotel room. In the bar, unless I am scratching a particular itch, I negotiate in a reasonable manner (indeed this is where I weed out 90% of the sharks) and feel them out (not up!)

I would add that this fails about 10% of the time. sometimes, I am thinking with the little head, or have had one too many cocktails or simply do not detect the "inner barracuda" in my company for the evening. Kreskin I am not.

Where the reasonable pricing comes into play, beside the original negotiations is repeat performances. A couple ladies I know are out of my personal price range, but appear happy with a more normal fee for me.

Usually, at that point, the comfort level, and thus the experience are right where I like them. Selfish to the core, I admit, but probably mutually serviceable as far as p4p relationships go. YMMV.

Cheers,

Sporadic

El Suave

05-20-05, 20:43

Where the reasonable pricing comes into play, beside the original negotiations is repeat performances. A couple ladies I know are out of my personal price range, but appear happy with a more normal fee for me.The above brings us back to one of 11Bravo’s mongering edicts and practically nullifies it. 11Bravo’s edict says, and I’m paraphrasing here, ‘the initial price you set with a pro on your first engagement will be pretty much the price you’ll always pay upon repeat encounters.’ In other words, the monger locks himself in whatever he paid for the first bang, the pro understands this, he understands this. It’s a mute contract, and this is always according to 11Bravo.

Back to the drawing boards I guess cuz you massacred the rules.

11Bravo

05-20-05, 21:45

I don't care how eager the vendor is to sell me a product; I ALWAYS check the specs before I buy. Just good business practice.

Adimondo

05-21-05, 10:21

Greetings to DXB's thread! I eventually took my time over reporting on my last stay in Dubai. I spent 3 days and 3 nights and had been accommodated in Bur Dubai area.

The story starts on an early Sunday morning at Bangkok Int. Airp. There have been 3 check-in queues for the Emirates-flight into Dubai. At the rear end of one of the economy class queues stood a lonely stunning young light fair-haired lady. I guessed her age 20-23 years. Her hair was shoulder-long partly covering her dark (due to make-up?) eyes. She had a tight body, has been dressed casually elegant and looked like a hot Middle-European babe. Her luggage trolley was overloaded with several different sized suitcases and bags. At this point I thought she may be companied by her guy and he would appear any moment. So I joined the queue running parallel to her's. She noticed the glances of some male passengers (including myself) and emanated a pretty cool attitude. It turned out she was indeed alone. The EK-flight had a delay of 1 hr. I played with the idea of approaching her at the boarding gate while waiting for departure. But I wasn't in the mood to elaborate a strategy how to strike up a conversation with her. So as not to attract attention of other passengers and may be not to make a fool of myself I decided to take no action.

After 6 hrs of flying westwards and hence winning time I finally landed in Dubai before noon. While crossing through immigration I suddenly noticed this gem of young lady coming out as well. She was going to stay in DXB. I followed her discreetly to the terminal exit. She had been picked up by a blonde lady who was older than her. I grabbed a cab to my hotel beeing in the best mood for starting the Dubai adventure. At around 2pm I decided to pay TGIT at Astoria Hotel a visit. Same scene like last year. Nothing changed. I even recognized a red-haired Ukrainian babe which accosted me 1 year ago. A Chinese chick got stuck to my body and did some marketing. It felt embarrassingly to fend off this kind of pressure diplomatically with a lot of guys ogling at us. I argued to be there just for a cool refreshing drink. "May be next time!" She left.

Now comes the big surprize. Suddenly 2 ladies entered the bar: the amazing blonde which had been on the EK-flight from BKK to DXB and the other one which picked her up at DXB airport. She saw me at the bar. I was astonished. This gem of a babe here in TGIT? My heart started to pound heavily. They moved to the back room. At this stage I tended to believe she was a luxury call-girl. Anyway p4p could be possible. I took my drink and walked to the back room. They had an appointment with 2 middle-aged expat gentlemen. I walked along their table. They talked in German. My favourite babe listened to the other lady who spoke very fast to the 2 guys. May be she noticed me. Due to the loud music I wasn't able to decipher the topic of their conversation. Is it usual to the female expat community to frequent or make appointments at TGIT? Didn't feel to linger longer at TGIT and left for lunch at Al-Baik Lebanese charcoal BBQ on the top storey at Bur Juman. Excellent quality. Well, gents, there was no happy ending in this story but I'd like to get some comments, hints or news on it.

Sunday evening at Rockafellas, Regal Plaza Hotel. Was there for the first time. Headed to the entrance at midnight. 50 Dhs admission including 2 drinks. The place was crowded. Loud Russian/Eastern European band performing Arab hits. This venue seems to be highly preferred by Arab expats. Enjoyed the oriental-western-mixture of this club. 2 almond-eyed chicks from a Central Asian CIS state asked me why I was looking around arrogantly. Was surprized by their strategy. Held some small talk with them. Didn't feel to come closer to any of them. Talked to a black-haired cute Ukrainian babe displaying a mischievous smile. Looked deeply into her shining black eyes and payed her compliments on her dress. Age: 20-23. The usual information exchange followed. I asked her what about continuing our conversation in a private atmosphere ;-) She wanted to know where I was staying. As soon as I told her the name of my budget accommodation she suddenly disagreed joining me. She argued that if I lived at the mentioned budget place I wouldn't be ready to pay her rate! She turned around and left for her Arab guy/sponsor who was sitting at the bar. Big mistake! Accomodation and ability to pay a hot chick don't need necessarily to be highly correlated.

Made eye-contact with a sensually dancing dark-haired beauty. She was performing stimulating oriental dance movements. To make it short: it was one of the best sessions in my life! I felt immediately we were going to have a great time together. She asserted to be from Chechnia. I estimated her age 27-30. Agreed 500 Dhs for full nighter. At around 2am we left Rockafellas bound for my room. This babe was naturally horny. Deep French kisses, bites, scratches. Highly skilled passionate CBJ. Wild ball licking and sucking. We shagged in all possible positions and even experimented new ones. The aircon collapsed during the early morning hours. We just continued our party. In between I had to reach for the bottle of water. She got more and more lecherous, moaned and gave out cries of pleasure. I continued the job for a while till I became exhausted. Fully bathed in sweat we eventually falled asleep. After sunrise I waked up to use the toilet and take a shower. As I came back to the room she was already dressed up and ready to leave. This surprized me a little bit but given my exhaustion I thanked her for the unforgetable session and let her leave.

Monday evening. Took a taxi ride to the One&Only Royal Mirage Hotel near Touristic Port in As-Sufouh area. Passed the quite unfriendly threshold-staff at the Kasbar Club around 11.30pm. Indeed one of the most amazing venues I've ever seen. Unfortunately the music sucked ugly fucking duck shit. Some universally known western beats. This club should be famous for Arabic house music. Not at this night. Some petit bourgeois bankers/consultants enjoying themselves. After sipping some Black Label I left disgusted for Bur Dubai area. Got out of the cab in front of York Int. Hotel at As-Saeediya-Interchange which is the centrepoint of the "Golden Triangle". Went into York Club at 1.30am and got a shock: in comparison to last year this place was degenerated. Dark and crowdy filled with expat workers and a surplus of aggressive African bitches. What a pity about this former great place! Soon a Chinese girl came up and attached to my body hitching up to my left arm. She was cute, but not my cup of tea. Communication was poor due to her weak command of English. I was at this night one of the very few Europeans in this spot. Given the late hour she fished me out as I came in and held me strongly signaling to the other babes that our deal was made. Kind attempts to get rid of her didn't help. It's not my style to become rude with a lady; I just asked her in a civilized manner to leave me alone. I continued roaming the club with her following me by keeping a tight grip on my left arm. About 10 minutes before closing she eventually left me alone. I immediately went up to an Eastern African cutie who I noticed short time before and who must have been around 20 years old. A female friend accompanied her. Slim, small body with tempting splendid bosom. She was way different in comparison to the other Africans by displaying class, beeing unbelievable cute, nicely dressed and speaking well English. After inviting both of them for a drink negotiations started. I was only interested in this gem of Eritrean babe. Her offer: ST meaning 2 hrs with no BJ (allegedly African ladies wouldn't do it :-o) for 500 Dhs at her place in Deira. I declined with thanks. Asked her what about LT and with BJ for the mentioned rate. She insisted on ST. At this point dazzling light had been switched on and the club was going to close. She offered 400 Dhs and as I started to move towards exit she asked for 300 Dhs. I reminded her about BJ. She stated it would be possible for a price :-o Rate was going to increase again. At this stage I got pissed off particulary since I haven't had the feeling she would provide excellent service. I wished her good night and left for my hotel.

Tuesday evening at 11.30pm was Cyclone time. 75 Dhs for the passage into this Elysium of female beauty. Also here I had to realize a degeneration process in comparison to last year. In spite of few gems there were a lot of ugly, fat birds. Many seemed to be worn out by alcohol. Huge Chinese contingent on the left side from the entrance. Talked to few Russian babes. Some were friendly and talkative and others displayed a definitely superficial and arrogant attitude. Had some chats and experienced an inflationary shock: standard rate for LT was 1,000 Dhs - it seemed to be arranged between themselves. I deliberately don't encourage this nonsense. Who's spoiling the trade? Are those the GCC-neighbours, especially the Saudis? Are those the tourists and business people from all over the world? Are those the girls' "bosses"? As I approached the exit a group of Russian speaking male sinister figures was entering the venue. They were greeted enthusiastically by the barkeeping staff. I left the club with a nasty after-taste. Anyway it is one of the most amazing places in the world.

Headed to Rockafellas at Regal Plaza Hotel. At around 1.30am paid the compulsory 50 Dhs beeing now eligible for 2 drinks. Although it wasn't Muslim weekend I hardly could pass through the crowds. A Chinese chick pushed violently a CIS babe away. Glasses got broken. The CIS babe signaled readiness to fight. The bouncers intervened. Spirits cooled down. The Chinese chick had to leave the venue. I suppose the CIS lady must have pinched Chinese girl's customer. Some of the girls have to struggle by fair and unfair means for a hard buck.

Scanned the scenery and spotted a cute CIS brunette. A lot of smiling. Hard to communicate due to language barriers. She seemed to be a newbie. As I tried to start the negotiations her European-looking guy/customer returned from the rest room. He explained me she had already been booked by him for this night and I could take her next night. Time was some minutes past 2am and I had no chica yet. Just sticked to a group of 3 CIS girls. I decided to have some fun with a nice black-haired and black stockings wearing 23-25 years young woman. She suited my preferences quite well. LT for 500 Dhs. I told her I would pay after. Her "manager" (beeing one of the other 2 girls) rejected, stating that the complete amount would be payable to her. I proposed then half of the amount up front and the balance in the morning. The "manager" agreed on 300 Dhs up front and 200 Dhs payable to my companion afterwards. So we did and off we went. She insisted on a taxi lift although my room was only few steps away. Allegedly due to swollen feet. Oh well.
Communication in English was no problem. She asserted to be from Uzbekistan. So I realized she must belong to the Russian minority in this former Soviet republic. A natural beauty. Firm body, tight booty and tits, strongly built. She laid on bed with no initiative like a plank. I just enjoyed her body giving her a massage, licking, kissing (not on mouth) and eventually banged her from behind. In the morning hours I went into the bathroom and as I came out she sat already dressed on the bed. She intended to leave and asked for taxi money. I hadn't got a suitable banknote, so I declined. She left grumbling at me some Russian swear-words.

Bottom line: in DXB prices went up and quality down. Service quality depends on good luck and of course simpathy. Superficiality and money rules. Keep in mind: everything is designed to attract the money into the pockets of the local Arabs. Anyway IT IS a monger paradise.

Comments, opinions and suggestions are welcome!

Sporadic

05-21-05, 17:32

Suave
Back to the drawing boards I guess cuz you massacred the rules. as you have surmised, Bravo and I have slightly different techniques. While his, if carefully followed will always yield an acceptable result, mine yields a 90% success rate for ME.

It also lets me preserve a little more fantasy experience. Asking "Do you suck, no plastic?" may get right to the heart of the matter, but it could kill a mood. I have been lucky enough on at least two occasions (verified) to get bbbj from providers who only offer cbj normally. My gain.

I guess we each have to make our own personal chalk marks on the old drawing board.

Cheers,

Sporadic

El Suave

05-21-05, 22:35

Adimondo,

What a good, poignant, straight forward, refreshing and informative report. Thank you. Moreover, and by no means is this an admonition, but the Dubai-bound punter this summer doesn’t know whether to praise your objectivity or curse the deteriorating state of the hobby based on what you report. Either way, you stand commended.

But you do understand that some of us who’ll be heading to the DXB soon won’t only have to contend with murderous heat, but with tuff, more expensive mongering as well and according to you.

Is it really this bad? I mean Cyclone? Did it really lose its magic and began charging top price for crappy merchandise? I too wanna know what da fuck is going on.

One cannot but like the fact, however, that you do at the end say that regardless of all the setbacks you witnessed, the DXB remains a “monger paradise.” Good to know.

One last thing, and this is certainly not my observation, one expert hobbyist on this board said that when asked by a pro where you’re staying, give the name of a district only rather than a hotel or residence. Only after a price has been fixed should you reveal your address, I learned this the hard way. Thanks again Adimondo.

El Suave

05-21-05, 22:48

It also lets me preserve a little more fantasy experience. Asking "Do you suck, no plastic?" may get right to the heart of the matter, but it could kill a mood.Sporadic,

I hate it when the mood gets killed because the mood is the crux of what all this is about. I’m a romanticist too, so more power to ya.

Worf1972

05-23-05, 04:31

The only thing I did not like about Dubai p4p, is diving in unknown waters with a working girl. If you were capable of getting recommendations from other mongers. You might have avoided getting stuck with low quality service on certain occasions. One never knows, you see a 10 and get a 4 in service once you get the girl back to the room. ( That why I avoid Africans )

Using Bravo11’s monger bylaws (see general posting) it is best to get as much information about her service, before heading back to your place.

Tony #1

05-23-05, 12:42

Its a shame that prices are looking at 1000 at cyclone. Last year in cyclone i paid 500 every time for nice looking russians, cant belive the going rate has doubled the smelly little bastards. I thought 500 was a fair deal.

Obviously reading other posts you can still get girls for 500 or even less. but i always thought the quality of birds in cyclone were the best. Because of our visit in dubai (7nights) after the 3 night we went to cyclone and never went anywhere else. Im looking forward to coming on holiday in june. Any1 going for the first time you have to try Cyclone, and bang the russians arce.

Whats it like in premiere never went there but.

Bilbo456

05-24-05, 21:12

I have searched to board but to no avail. Is there any middle eastern women available in Dubai ? Or are there only the Chinese and Eastern European women available. Would really appreciate some further information on this as I am coming for a 3 day trip and don't really have sufficient time to shop around. I particularly prefer the light skinned Iraqi / Iranian women.

I'll be looking at hotels in the hotel section later but any 5 star recommendations would not go amiss. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Boofer

05-25-05, 08:31

In the Hyatt Regency disco, there were Iranian women for hire. Make sure you go the the Regency not Grand.

Bizzie

05-27-05, 04:37

While the local gurus probably don't have the need to do this, an obligatory trip to Cyclone seems like the thing to do for those of us who visit DXB occasionally. Having visited Cyclone occasionally over the last 4 years, I can asure you that the price hike is real and permanent!
The cover charge has gone form 30(or 40) to 75 DHS and the drink prices have reached ridiculous proportions. Worse yet are the rates these CIS will quote you and will not budge.
Surely there were DHS 1000 CIS chicks around Cyclone 3-4 years ago, but now "every" CIS is asking for 1000. My last visit to Cyclone was in March and the price quoted was DHS 1500! A chick with similar looks (yes, 9-10) would have been 800-900 just a year ago.
So, what are we going to do? Well, the same! If I am visitng DXB after 8 or 10 or 12 months, I will be heading to the Cyclone (at least once). :)

Worf1972

05-27-05, 06:15

now "every" CIS is asking for 1000. My last visit to Cyclone was in March and the price quoted was DHS 1500! A chick with similar looks (yes, 9-10) would have been 800-900 just a year ago.
So, what are we going to do? Well, the same! If I am visitng DXB after 8 or 10 or 12 months, I will be heading to the Cyclone (at least once). :)

Sorry Cyclone is good to get numbers (contacts) and every tourist should check it out once in your life (closest thing to going to a fkk in Middle East) . BUT THERE IS NO WAY I am going to pay 1000 dhs for any babe , what do they think there in New York or London???

Unless I am going to get A-ANAL to O-Oral to R- getting my ass Rimmed to Z- taking my ass to the Zenith..There is no guarantee GFE, " the better and closer to a 10 they are , the worst the service. That is a big chance to gamble with the unknown fact. That this 1000-1500 dhs, girl is going to give you a good time.

11Bravo

05-29-05, 18:56

While the local gurus probably don't have the need to do this, an obligatory trip to Cyclone seems like the thing to do for those of us who visit DXB occasionally. ... If I am visitng DXB after 8 or 10 or 12 months, I will be heading to the Cyclone (at least once). Believe the cover now is 60 dhs non-weekends, 85 weekends (used to be 50/75 dhs).

I'll also bite the bullet, fork over the cash, and every couple of months, head into Cyclone for an early hour or 2. It is a fine show, even if the prices are not worth it, to me Always look around to see who's there, and who's not Nice to see some familiar faces for a brief hello (both of us knowing anything else is a waste of both our time) Always looking for a couple of faces who went home, hoping they'll return Like Worf says, it is possible to collect some mobile numbers to try later - sometimes a deal can be made. Have fond memories of the place as it was the 1st place I went on arriving dxb Agreeing with Bizzie - it is something to be seen. Not the same shock/awe as the 1st time, but still... And who knows, maybe for my birthday...

Tom Sorenson

05-30-05, 08:46

i haven't posted for quite a while and thought i would update you on my ladies.

i have three regulars in dubai now that i see whenever i am in town. i am the type that likes to hold on to known talent when i find it because i get into town so little that i dont want to waste time with some starfish or pump and dump. the three of them all are all chinese and all offer me something different.

jy is a very cute and petit girl who i take when i want a hard fast and furious fuck. she loves it when i slam into her pussy as hard as i can from what ever position we are using. i love to stand up, holding her under her knees and grabbing her ass and lifting her up and down on my cock as i pump into her. doggy and pulling her up by the hair is also real good.

an is a quiet girl who loves me. she likes a long slow fuck, my cock teasing her as i move very slowly, kissing her deeply. she is also the first girl to deep throat me all the way. damm that was good.

jn is an older woman who also loves me. the first time i met her, i finished 5 times and made her cum 9 times - she is absolute nympho. i have seen her a number of times since then and every time is a long fuck fest of orgasms. i am finding her kinky side start to appear and that suits me fine - i love kinky and nasty. the last time i came in her mouth, she moved up and started french kissing me - feeding my cum back to me. this was in the morning and said she wanted to share breakfast with me. when i talked to her on the phone the other day, she said she wants to talk to me about [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) - whatever that means. i cant wait to hear what she has in mind.

i also have had a couple of other ladies lately that were recommended to me. one was a bit on the plump side, but had nice tits to hold onto while i fucked her ass. that was the main reason i took her was to ass fuck her three times.

i hope to slowly build up my list of ladies that i can count on for a great time whenever i get to duabi.

El Suave

05-31-05, 02:29

Below is a new report from this site’s sister forum in the Dubai section, it is Titled ‘May 05 Cleanup’. To say the least, it alarmed me cuz I have one foot in the plane already. Come on guys, Sporadic, Bravo, to all kings and sultans, what da fuck is going on? Say it ain’t so. :(

So guys, here I am back all broiled up from Dubai ... spent a couple of days on business & my first Dubai Fantasy turning into Dubai depression.

The ground reality RIGHT NOW is that most of the hotels mentioned here DO NOT allow girls in the room anymore.Imperial Suites (where I stayed ) Big No, checked out a few more personally to share with you guys. Not allowed in York, Regal Plaza,Al Sandos Suites,Astoria ( had cops all over. Beleive me.

It was a big surprise for my local associates as well. I beleive & heard all the days that with Dubai economy booming on it's own, & getting ready for becoming the LA of the middle east. It does not want the tag of Thailand & does not need the sex tourism money. The hookers were off the street where my local associates used to find tons of them a few months back.

I beleive they have been all been sent back to where they came from.

Did see cheap chinese street hookers maybe 20 of them furitively glancing near the Shoe Mart .Visited the Imperial Suites, Astoria & York just to check out the scene... 10:1 & the 1's also screwed up russians who could take you to their apartment.. which a few of locals advised me against.I was not to eager to go to an unknown place & try to get a hardon.So no point going to Cyclone & blowing up the hard earned cash when one does not have the convinience of his own hotel room.

So guys let's get some REAL TIME reports & guides here on these forum..

off to Pattaya in the next couple of days to get over the Dubai depression... any body tell me now for real where to lay the best of Russians.

Worf1972

05-31-05, 06:20

Below is a new report from this site’s sister forum in the Dubai section, it is Titled ‘May 05 Cleanup’. To say the least, it alarmed me cuz I have one foot in the plane already. Come on guys, Sporadic, Bravo, to all kings and sultans, what da fuck is going on? Say it ain’t so. :(Originally Posted by Michaelkaran
So guys, here I am back all broiled up from Dubai ... spent a couple of days on business & my first Dubai Fantasy turning into Dubai depression.

The ground reality RIGHT NOW is that most of the hotels mentioned here DO NOT allow girls in the room anymore.Imperial Suites (where I stayed ) Big No, checked out a few more personally to share with you guys. Not allowed in York, Regal Plaza,Al Sandos Suites,Astoria ( had cops all over. Beleive me

Everything he mention was ALWAYS KNOWN AS NOT GUEST FRIENDLY. This guy did not do his homework, I've posted myself a guy that can get guest friendly apartments. List in both forums many guest friendly hotels were listed by members EXPERIENCE of staying at the hotels mentioned. All the areas that "Michaelkaran" mention by reading the boards were areas that were getting out of hand. MONGERING IN DUBAI IS A DISCREET PRACTICE IT IS A ISLAMIC COUNTRY after all.

And with as Bravo quoted,"lookie lous" who stop traffic to watch you walking with a girl. TGIT-Astoria hotel, shoe mark by the York and Imperial Suites hotel were becoming a spectator sport. By jamming traffic with all the working girls hanging around especially at closing. This of course would draw attention by the jealous lookie lous, complaining neighbors and other clubs that don't get the clientel.

Kingkool

05-31-05, 09:21

Maybe the other website doesnt provide the latest info and the local people with whom Michaelkaran spoke with didnt help him much either. Even if someone doesnt know of a girl friendly hotel, the *****s could assist in getting a cheap decent hotel for a one night stand. One such hotel they usually recommend is the Dallas hotel which probably has customers coming in solely for this purpose. It cost me 150dhs last time I went there.

Most 5* hotels have no problems with people bringing in guests. Emirates towers is the only exception that I know of. These 3* or 4* hotels need to protect their reputation and not appear to other hotel guests as a hotel catering to mongering. Therefore its not govt. pressure that is responsible for Imperial or York imposing no female guest policies.

I have tried going to the ladies house as well on numerous occasions. My advise is only go to the ladies house if she is from a CIS country. Their apartments are big, clean and the buildings they live in are relatively new. All the girls in Imperial Suites Disco stay nearby so it isnt a bad idea to hunt there if you plan to be a guest in the ladies apartment later that night. But one should definitely avoid going to a chinese or an africans house. Trust me.

I agree that the SWs are on a decline and many have been rounded up. The dubai govt certainly has tightened the noose on them. There are hardly any that can be seen in the Golden Sands area or even on rigga road. The only ones that one gets to see now are the fat and ugly ones who have no option but to take the streets.

Boofer

05-31-05, 10:03

fully agree with worf. Dubai has upgraded itself to expensive hobby of cyclone and Hyatt.

Tom Sorenson,
Please update me with the plump lady whose into "A"

El Suave

05-31-05, 18:45

burak

06-01-05, 14:56

I will be traveling to Dubai once again next week.

I tried the Cyclone before with all my experiences in Russians. Now that I read that the prices have doubled, I am looking forward to check out York, Regal and TGIT. I am hoping that due to low tourist season maybe prices fall down.

Note: Last time in Cyclone, all but one of the girls that I talked to accepted to pay later. It was very discouraging.

11Bravo

06-01-05, 19:18

Chicken Little

Originally Posted by El Suave: Say it ain’t so.It ain't so.

Originally Posted by Worf1972: MONGERING IN DUBAI IS A [b]DISCREET PRACTICE IT IS A ISLAMIC COUNTRY after all.Some people just don't/won't believe it. Believe it.

Originally Posted by Kingkool: One such hotel they usually recommend is the Dallas hotel which probably has customers coming in solely for this purpose.PROBABLY???!!!??? Years ago, when I went to check in with 2 working girls, and the clerk asked me how many nights I would be staying, had to bite my tongue to keep from laughing.

Originally Posted by Kingkool: But one should definitely avoid going to a chinese or an africans houseCan't speak to the africans, but a-list chinese do have nice places (for the most part). It's the barracks girls who won't.

All-in-all: Yes, things have changed. It's perhaps not so open... USED to be, golden sands, behind Ramada, LOT of CIS/Turks exercising, walking around in the afternoon/early evening. No more. On the other hand, last month, the site of the chinese squadrons out on the middle island in the street dividing Al Ain/Shoe Mart parking lots was UNBELIEVABLE. That was a month ago; figured it couldn't last; it didn't. Things evolve; as a Thai would say "Same, same, but different".

The IMPORTANT criteria, at least for me: can I still get laid with an attractive girl for a reasonable price? For me, the answer is yes. Yes, I don't go to Cyclone as much as I once did; too expensive. Yes, the women there do charge high prices; hell, IT'S cyclone. My guess is prices are up 100,200 dhs. Before, straightforward to find a beautiful chinese there for 500; now, it's 700. CIS (not exactly MY thing, but still...), yes, they probably are up from 500 3 years ago to 800 last year to 1000 now. So?... Go to Rockafellas. For me, now it's York. Yes, one class step down, but I certainly have no trouble hooking up with someone I find attractive for a reasonable price (top price I've ever paid: 700 LT; normal 500, sometimes can get away with 400).

Bottom line: you have to look more, they are NOT falling into your lap cheaply. But it's NOT difficult. And believe me, my life is too short to be taking ugly women home. When you compare the variety, price... it's not dire. What's the closing line from the "Wild Bunch"? "It's not like the old days, but it'll do."

Kingkool

06-02-05, 08:08

Kool and Worf,

What’s troubling about Michaekaran’s report is the following and he says, ” visited Imperial Suites, Astoria & York just to check out the scene…… 10:1” What’s 10:1? How do you guys interpret this? I sure hope he doesn’t mean the ratio of monger to pro has dropped to a miserable “10:1” in the venues he mentions.

If I interpreted the latter wrongly, all the better accomplishment, if not, I’d say again, what da fuck is going on?The 10:1 ratio is definitely an exaggeration even if you keep in mind that he might have visited the places on a Thursday. I have'nt been to the York or Astoria lately but I can comment on the 'Staying Alive' disco at the Imperial as I do frequent this venue occasionally. When I compare the current situation to a year back, I notice that the guys have increased and so have the girls and its packed no matter which day of the week it is. On thursdays the situation is pretty bad and there is a huge queue of our brethren outside the club after 11.30 waiting to be allowed entry. Inside there is hardly any place to walk.

Overall I feel the ratio has definitely increased but there is no need to panic. As bravo says, its not cheap but its not too difficult either. Dubai is still the place.

11Bravo

06-02-05, 17:56

proof of statement

is dxb declining in p4p opportunity? i think not. yes, prices are up 100/200 dhs from years past. but still, lot of opportunity.

last night, wed., just before 11, hit york. not crowded, not empty. initially, good ratio, slowly declining as the evening passed. but i'd definitely say, a buyer's market. on my way there, through shoemart parking lot, saw only 2 working girls, chinese. seemed more on other side, in al ain parking lot. [at 12:30, none to be seen; le seems to have had an effect]. one of the 2 did look nice, and, a different evening, might be worth further investigation. my choice: pass.

walking across street, towards york, 2 chinese heading opposite direction. had seen both before, but couldn't remember if it had been york or imperial. both not bad; again, different night... but i wanted to check out york, so... my choice: pass

within 2 minutes of entering york, spotted the girl i'd pulled last wed. very nice; only drawback, as posted, she was a legit moonlighter. i didn't feel like getting up early next morning for her departure. explained to her, she understood, no problem. class. my choice: pass (different decision on a thursday night...)

2 york a-listers, ok faces, very nice racks. knew their marketing with the scoop necklines. possible, but it was early, i didn't feel like bargaining hard for what i knew would be top-line price, using perhaps "sour grapes" about potential performance, so didn't pursue as wasn't interested then. one did hang around unobtrusively, stopping by now and then to check. my choice: pass

spotted an older chinese, looked interesting (sporadic, remember lisa from cyclone, the "you owe me big money"; this girl could have been her sister). she seemed to be targeting older punters; hey, that fit me, i was in. she'd struck out with 2 when i approached her; she blew by me without blinking. then realized the difference; she was targeting older, elegant punters. ok, didn't fit into that category. her choice: pass

2 more nice chinese approached. miss yellow started marketing her slightly older friend, "just arrive, 1st time york". yellow bit cuter, friend also intriguing, for me. difficult decision. however, the "newly arrived" does put me off; i like somebody who knows the ropes. politely declined, but worth bookmarking. my choice: pass

standing at a table, girl in a nice dress. struck up a conversation with lucy (jsf, you might know her? brownish hair, wide face, not a big rack). she seemed rather animated, drinking beer. definitely a possible, though she seems a bit inebriated. rather fasinated with the dress, imaging a marilyn monroe scene at home. time passes; an a-list girl, ginny, stops by; she knows both of us. she speaks to lucy; hopefully, i'm getting some good pr. get down to negotiations. menu seems ok, bit unclear. lt ok. ask price. 200... usd. mental thought: this is not cyclone, very favorable m/f ratio, you're not that cute, and the dress will be coming off. my choice: pass

later on, she latches onto me again. definitely inebriated now; just grabbing on a bit too hard.
lesson learned: the drunk you think will be wild at home? the reality: every 10 minutes, action is interrupted with a "i have to go toilet". now, if your attention span is less than 10 minutes, ok. but if not, tends to have a wilting effect. and the 2nd round is a lost cause... automatic pass.

spot a petite girl i've seen numerous times before. have always passed as have never registered with nana.

lesson: no recognizion from her, not a good sign.

however, figure why not; will test the waters. each time i make a circuit, a few words with her. fairly one-sided (not a good sign). however, when i catch her yawning, i stop and make the effort. starts slow, but then she seems to warm up, and i think a deal might be possible. she is in the category of "experience her", so don't bother with menu, only enquiring about lt and shots. when i ask price, i get a whiny "all night, your house, 3 shots? not my house?", then the blow off answer: 1000 dhs. message loud and clear. her choice: pass

have seen ginny several times (jsf, you remember her). she always stops just long enough to give me a chance to make an offer. have gone with her before; nice face, very nice body. however, can't remember her menu, so... my choice: pass

see rosa/ferosa?, the cis of the plaid mini, over the knee boots, the tag line "swallow sperm", and the moth dance, along with her blonde friend. looking very nice, not too many moths fluttering about. however, don't feel like a st (no matter what the promise). my choice: pass

see other familiar faces: sweet lili, another moonlighter. tempted with yaya (er, you know her). several others known (in the biblical sense). but still... my choice: pass

number of familiar, unsampled faces. nothing that demands an immediate response; this is not the cyclone a-list line. all pleasing. but still... my choice: pass

finally end up back near miss yellow. seems she had successfully brokered her newly arrived friend. she does look nice. menu ok (she must have thought me the simpleton as i wanted to make sure she fully understood). her quote: 500. i offered guaranteed 400, 500 for a good time. she seemed a bit confused about the incentive clause. i hesitated, mainly to listen to one of my favorite songs. misinterpreting my hesitation, she quoted 500 to include taxi home. agreed, and in fact, she got 500 plus taxi home.so, last night, like so many other nights, plenty of selection. i like chinese; plenty at york. my guess is the same is true for cis at rockafellas, given comments by other members. and cyclone is still cyclone for fillet mignon.

all in all, i consider dxb a p4p destination only if you are in region you have business herecost of living is high; hotels are not cheap (especially when compared to asia). however, you do have a wide selection of wg's to satisfy an appetite for various ethnic groups.

11Bravo

06-03-05, 08:34

Note: Last time in Cyclone, all but one of the girls that I talked to accepted to pay later. It was very discouraging.Don't you mean only one?

I view pay afteras a: safety net. If she agrees, chances are slim she will try and shortchange you, most often by turning LT into ST. However, this does come with an obligation. If she does perform all tasks, even without enthusiasm, then she still must be paid full amount. This is the only way pay after works. filter. If she doesn't agree, then it's just one more variable to put into the no/no-go decision. I don't recall ever rejecting a girl SOLELY for this; however, her "pay before", coupled with other signals, has led me to make the decision to walk away.

Other things to consider: dxb is a racist society. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is. Some nationalities are more likely to be asked to pay in advance. If you are unknown, more likely. Likewise, if you are known to frequent the bars, and have NOT been labeled a lookie lou, more chance that she will agree to pay after, as long as the network does not have any negative PR about you.

burak

06-03-05, 10:12

Right. only one accepted.

Once, I forgot to mention timing of payment during negotiation with a newbie. As we entered the room she asked for it. I said 'oo I will pay after'. She decided to call her boss. She couldn't get through. After a good time paid the agreed sum. I think this time I might try this on purpose as well.

Conlon Man

06-03-05, 10:19

What time can you find action as these two locations till.

I am arriving 2am so by the time I get to the hotel throw my bags in and get to either it is likely to be 4am.

Will there still be action to be found then?

Thanks

11Bravo

06-03-05, 20:12

What time can you find action as these two locations till.Bars close 3am (lights on about 2:45). At 4am, get a good night's rest, then hit TGIT around 2pm.

11Bravo

06-04-05, 14:14

Once, I forgot to mention timing of payment during negotiation with a newbie. As we entered the room she asked for it. I said 'oo I will pay after'. She decided to call her boss. She couldn't get through. After a good time paid the agreed sum. I think this time I might try this on purpose as well.To any method, there are always tradeoffs. Certainly by waiting until you get back to your hotel to discuss pay before/pay after, there might be an incentive for the lady to agree. After all, she has already spent travel time there, and would have to spend travel time back (assuming there was time left in the business day) without any cash received if you fail to reach a deal. Further, if she couldn't reach her boss to explain the situation, might she not be accused of withholding from the boss, under suspicion of consumating the deal but lying about it? I don't know.

On the other hand, if she does decline, then it is you with the limited options. You too would have to return to the bar (or another bar) to try and make another deal. Depending on the time, that may, or may not, be feasable (well, there is ALWAYS afternoon TGIT after a good night's sleep).

The other, pragmatic aspect (for me anyway), do you really want to be discussing this back at your place? Would certainly seem to be a mood killer. For me, any type of last minute side-steps always raises the caution flag; I'm sure it's the same for her.

My choice: Agree on everything BEFORE leaving the BAR. If you can't agree on the pay before/pay after, then you can make an informed decision while you still have plenty of other options at hand. Obviously, this can degrade from the romantic/spontaneous aspect. But I'll leave it up to her professionalism to establish the required facade, especially as there will be no surprises from MY side.

You also did not mention if it was ST or LT. ST I'm not too worried about. Yes, have heard cases of paying a 3rd party IN THE BAR, then the girl either refuses to go with you, or bolts once you are at the hotel. (Remember a story in the Gulf News where an idiot was arrested by the police when he went to them and complained about getting ripped off in this exact situation). Hey, no refunds. But a pay before request in the hotel room is not a deal breaker. NEVER PAY IN THE BAR. LT is a different story. Think the most common rip-off is a girl who agrees to LT, then, after the 1st shot, or 2, leaves. (Be careful; some a-list's definition of LT is "until you fall asleep"). For me, the best prevention is to agree to a pay after.

Another possibility (that I should exercise more often), is to agree to a sure ST (with pay before), with a potential LT follow-on, if it's warranted. That should satisfy both parties

Again, pay after is just insurance about her bailing before the agreed upon time. It all comes down to a personal decision about how much is experiencing HER worth to you (and how much are you willing to risk?). My experience, very few girls are out&out rip-offs.

Just remember: Pay AFTER ONLY works if we do so; she's a starfish is NO excuse. Only thing THAT guarantees is no repeat business, and a warning here.

And what is it with all the italics in this post?

BraveBoy79

06-04-05, 22:17

Wondering if this news will have any affect here? Appearing on all major wires today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=818827

WASHINGTON Jun 4, 2005 — The United States accused 14 nations Friday of failing to do enough to stop the modern-day slave trade in prostitutes, child sex workers and forced laborers. The countries include Saudi Arabia, Washington's closest Arab ally in the war on terrorism.

Three other U.S. allies in the Middle East Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar were newly listed this year as nations that are failing to adequately address trafficking problems. The State Department said the 14 countries could be subject to sanctions if they do not crack down

11Bravo

06-05-05, 14:17

The death of dxb P4P has been greatly exaggerated

I've told you so, so what else is there to say? (Now is the time that Foghorn Leghorn would appear, saying, "That's a joke, son" in that southern accent of his - if you are unfamiliar with american cartoon characters, http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/foghorn/fogleg21.wav)

Met up with JSF (always a pleasure), Bangers&Mash (pleasure to meet you), and Worf (again, pleasure to meet you) Sat. night at York. As usual, the volume too loud, so impossible to carry on a conversation across the table; limited to shouting into the ear of the person next to you. Maybe management is under the illusion that the prime reason for going to 1st floor (or 2nd, depending on your heritage; so 1 floor up from ground) bar is for the band, with the ground floor bars for conversation. I don't think so. 1st floor bar is the meat market, band providing some fill-in amusement while waiting for your take-away.

I was there from about 9:30 until 11:00. During those 90 minutes, saw: 3 ladies I'd pulled before and would (will) pull again

2 other ladies I'd pulled before; would not be my 1st choice, but still nice

at least 3 others who have found a place on the to-do list, especially one petite one in black dress (next free opening on my dance card).3 of the 8 were spotted within the 1st 30 minutes (i.e., before 10pm). My guess at the ratio was at least 2/1 F/M. Certainly seemed a buyer's market; very few couples disappearing out the door (although I did see a triple do so). York not crowded at all; in fact, a bit sparse, with plenty of room to move. Just like a fine, autumn hunting day (except it's almost summer, at 11pm, still hot enough to break a sweat while walking).

Had a few stop by our table; believe more would have done so except that the landing gate was occupied by one I consider an a-list. She was trying to sign a deal. With the gate occupied, others just circled. Once again, others will not intrude, so: Not Interested - just say "No thank you" and have her move on.

Not Tonight - say you are there, tonight, just to drink, then get her mobile number for when you have time. She'll move on; if not, encourage her to do so.

Maybe - it's early, you want to keep your options open. Again, I tell her the truth, "Maybe, but it's early; right now, drink and listen to music". If I'm smart (not always), will still ask for her mobile number. Obviously, a trade off: if you think she's attractive, so will others, so you might miss that chance with her (why I should get the mobile). But you do want her to move on. Most will.

This One - Make the deal; out the door.The whole point is, you do not want to get trapped by one if you are not going to pull her. Some will try and hang on to you, thinking you are their best bet (I feel sorry for those if I'm the "best" prospect of the evening). If they don't take the verbal/non-verbal hints, then it'll be me who walks away. As I'm there for business, I want to fly solo until ready to off-load some of that excess fluid.

It's in both parties' interest to not lose time if there is no interest. Word will get around about who is a serious punter, and who just wastes a girl's time.

We all left at the same time. Offered to drop Worf at Seaview Hotel with a recommendation of the band there on my way home. Driving over (all of 5 minutes), thought I'd go up and listen to 1, maybe 2 songs; 90 minutes later, I was still there (they do put on a good show). Small room, loud; the sound meter behind the bar is always pegged.

Unlike York, Seaview is a P4P sideline bar. By this, P4P seems to be a sideline to the main attraction of the band. York, Imperial, Cyclone other way around. So, I'd say the M/F ratio was the reverse of York; maybe 2/1 M/F. Fairly even mix of chinese, african, cis, maybe 10-15 ladies overall. Not a large selection, but still, if I had wanted to go home with someone, there were possibilities, including a couple nice CIS (OK, -stanis, which does not step outside my profile). That did NOT include the previously pulled chinese who came over, the one who did not understand the morning wakeup concept (previous post). At first she didn't register, but, as time passed, the memory returned. Market must be bad if she was trying for another engagement with me.

Just after 1, went home alone, dreading the 5am alarm. Currently feel like what a dog leaves under a bush.
-------------------------

Another thought, rather obvious:
You have so many more possibilities IF you have your own place (hotel, apt, whatever). Any WG, not just those with their own place, is an option. Unless you are pulling an a-list, her place can be pretty dismal, along the lines of a mattress on the kitchen floor, or sheet partitions in a divided room. And, for me, that is the major drawback of dxb. Hotels are not cheap, decent ones, anyway; not like BKK. Plus there is the GF'ly concern. That's why I've stated that coming to dxb just for P4P is not a given. Yes, wide selection of WG's, various nationalities, colors, forms. Readily available, not THAT expensive. However, the overhead of housing is. Best for a business trip, or an R&R, with the company paying. Solutions, I don't know. Admiral Plaza used to be a reasonable option; now, don't know. Dallas Hotel. 3 years ago, it was pretty dingy. But 150-180 dhs (so I've heard) ; as a crash/P4P pad, MIGHT be do-able, if your standards are MINIMAL and the only thing you planned to do in the room was sleep/screw. Have heard of some small hotels around Astoria Hotel. Had met couple of punters in TGIT staying in the vicinity. They didn't have the name - down this street, then left/right... but said, while spartan, reasonably clean, with a/c.My only real suggestion is keep reading the hotels section.

Another consideration is location, as in traffic. Sharajah might only be 20 minutes from dxb on a Friday morning, but at other times, it can literally be hours. The creek splits dubai into Diera and Bur Dubai; only 3 ways across: 2 bridges and a tunnel; they can get FULL (ok, also small boats for foot traffic, but that is a "walk of shame" I would not consider). CITY is on Bur Dubai side. Hyatt Premiere, airport are in Diera. The dxb marina, or the hotels along jumerah beach, are a bit of a ride. Only a couple of main roads into town, and they do fill up with traffic. Even at 9pm yesterday, in Bur Dubai, it was stop and go (not being able to make it through intersections due to the "close to gridlock" conditions). Plus, the beach hotels, those taxis can get expensive. 40/50 dhs one way (maybe you can take a free hotel shuttle in; coming back, you have stones if you do that...). Considering 80 dhs for your round trip, 40 for her return (and you will pay it, one way or the other), that 200 ST from afternoon TGIT suddenly is not such a deal.

Closing factoid: Song "Zombie" by Cranberries, as done by: band at 1st floor York: good
band at ground floor York (Music Box) : better - the female backup singers, down on hands and knees, doggie style,...
band at Seaview: best; not erotic like Music Box, but that female bass player can really play, sing, and put on a show in her own way

11Bravo

06-05-05, 14:20

Wondering if this news will have any affect here? Appearing on all major wires today.Let's just say the local papers/officials did not take kindly to the report.

Nothing will change, except PERHAPS some suppression of the street scene. But that is coming anyway, what with DSS (D. Summer Surprises) just around the corner.

Sporadic

06-06-05, 16:32

owing to continued difficulties with logging in/site blockage, JSF has asked me to cross post something he wrote today. Here it is...

JustSumFun: To be honest Sporadic is right. ( JSF was replying to a post extolling the virtues of a certain lady, the punter in question suggested that there could be nobody better, I suggested JSF was being conservative in only saying there were 2 or 3 he knew who were better...) I was being a bit conservative. What I like and what the other person likes could be two different things. But with 2 or 3 of the ladies, that I know, there can be no debate.

They are the best. L and F are the tops. So far I have not heard one person say that they did not get their money’s worth with either of these two. There are a lot of girls who I would not hesitate to include in my list. N and Sab from F’s place, Jameela, Fatima, Nadia and Irina from E’s place, M and Dar from L’s new hideout (Yes L is back in action and got in touch with me recently). Anyone who has E’s number don’t tell E that you know L is back. Just a request.

Then of course the ladies from the Indian house. Christina the filipina, Layla, Somayaa the turk, and the Iranian babe Amina. All of them were great too. But as I said what I like and what you like maybe completely different things. So I usually only recommend F and L because they are the best.

There are two Chinese at the York who are great too. One I have already been with and the other is going to get a call soon. By the way Marina, the tall blonde CIS with a stacked body, is back. She is one of the itches that I am still trying to scratch. But from reports of the guys who have been with her it seems she has no room of her own and she avoids ST. And she does not budge below 800 dhs for the LT.

Regarding Worf. The guy is awesome. Loved the way he handles himself. The Africans were falling all over him. One of them even took up his dare and danced with him just to show him she was good. And she was a lovely young lady who, if she were not an African, (I have nothing against Africans but the ones in dubai seem to have got a reputation for ripping guys off) would be on my to-do-list. By the way I have a number of another African who Chris611 thought is great. Haven’t seen her for a couple of weeks but if I do I might just ask her if she has a place of her own.

Tonight planning to hook up with Superman at one of the clubs. Been a while since I saw him. Always enjoy an outing with him. He has an eye for the good lookers and his BFE technique has most of the ladies fawning over him after they have been with him.

Will post about tonight's outing. Not going to York tonight as both of us looking for a change of pace. So might pop in to the Staying alive or the Rockefellas. Let's see how it goes.

Justfun

Member #1071

06-07-05, 10:50

Not only JSF's contacts are one of the best in Dubai, his reports are best in this forum. Long time since we read somehting that made sense in this forum.

I'll call you when in Dubai JSF.

Cool Tiger

06-07-05, 20:53

I have followed this board for the past 12 months or so and here's my Tupence worth of comments regarding p4p in Dubai.

Cost of a holiday in Dubai has gone up considerably in the past 5 years since I have been coming here. When I first came to Dubai in 2001, a typical holiday package for a 3* hotel, incl. Breakfast, was GBP£250. Today, this figure is GBP£449! According to the tour operators, the main reason for this is that Dubai is becoming more popular, esp. since the Tsunami. Whilst the costs of the flights have been stable, it is the accommodation costs that have spiralled upwards. Even with new hotels cropping up each year (majority of which sadly are 4 and 5 stars), there are not enough rooms to satisfy the tourists and depending on how you see it, either the hotels get greedy or they take advantage of excess demand and put up their rates.

Lack of Accom also means the rates the WGs, as well as other migrant workers, pay for their accom would be expected to go up (as pointed out regularly by the girls). This in turn has led to the girls increasing their charge-out rates.

Sadly in the UK, Dubai is losing out to resorts in the Med/Egypt, where costs have remained at the same level for the past few years.

Turning back to Dubai, it is therefore not surprising to note that the costs for seeing the girls have gone up considerably in the past few years.

This in itself does not spell the end of mongering in Dubai. Depending on where you come from, you may still find Dubai cheap. Coming from the UK, I still find Dubai relatively cheaper. Typical hourly rate charged by girls in the UK are £100~£150 (Dhs650~Dhs975).

When I first came to Dubai, I paid Dhs400 for a ST (**stani girl / Russian girl from Cyclone). When I returned in Jan 05, JSF introduced us to E and her Russia House. I was amazed to be quoted Dhs300 ST, to the extent I insisted on giving Nat a tip of 100. ST rates at Ramada Night Club/Cyclone were Dhs800.

For LT rates, in 2001 I paid Dhs 600. In 2005, I was quoted Dhs1,000+. Whilst the rate may have gone up, it is still cheaper than the UK, where overnights are rarely less than £500 (Dhs3,250), typically £700+.

Whilst there are cheaper destinations than Dubai (India and BKK being the main ones), I have not ventured further east than Dubai. Consequently, I always find myself comparing Dubai to the UK and Dubai always wins. Even if the ST/LT rates were to increase, say, to Dhs1,000/Dhs2,000, I would still come to Dubai for the p4p scene. There are few good reasons for this, IMHO:

1 The ethnic Variety in Dubai cannot be matched by any other place in the world. Having said that, I still fall for the Russian Girls or the **stanis girls. In five years, I have only taken a Chinese girl once.

2 The rates for a decent Indian girl in the UK range at £150~£250 ph. This is because there are not that many Western Asian girls working in the UK. Coming to Dubai gives you a wider choice, when compared to the UK, as well as cheaper.

3 Having made contacts with a few people on this board and the wsg forum, it is now possible to spend your entire trip in Dubai having a good time, rarely disappointing.

4 (My favourite) Dubai, when compared to such resorts as UK, as well as India and BKK, is relatively safer, form a punters point of view. In the UK, it is difficult to avoid pimps or drug dealing/taking girls.
On my first visit to Cyclone etc., I was amazed to find that none of the WGs had any pimps hovering over them (or at least not visible), there was no such thing as a Red Light District Area (commonly associated with high crimes, pimps, drug-lords etc). Even the Law enforcement is of low profile in Dubai, when compared to elsewhere.

In addition, when you left the premises with the girl, you could walk safely to your car, back to your hotel etc. without being bombarded by ANYONE. Even the girls, who themselves are on restricted/limited Visas, would rarely take the money off you and do a runner!!

In short, the chances of being ripped off / stripped and left naked in a park are very rare in Dubai (or at least I'm led to believe, lol).

5 With most of the WGs coming from poorer countries, the common belief (at least at most times with most punters) that if you provide a good service, you are likely to be rewarded with extras or repeat business, leads to most girls at least making an attempt to provide a decent service. Compare this to places like Amsterdam where most punters are treated as cash mugs. the chances of having a great GFE are much higher in Dubai than compared to some Western resorts such as London.

6 Finally, for someone whose visit to Dubai may consist of a few days, having the contacts of like minded people means that certain, if not all, pitfalls can be avoided, thereby making your short stay an enjoyable one. Each one of my visit has ended up better than the previous one, with the last one being the best as by then, I had made a few contacts. Sadly, due to time pressure, I was only able to buy JSF that promised drink.
From what I recall, 11B and Sporadic were out of town. Hopefully, by next visit, this circle of friends should expand considerably.

It is for these reasons that I still find Dubai attractive. Although I only come there once, maybe twice, a year, I still follow the forums for them with great interest. Being of British Asian Descendant, having spent my entire life in the UK and never having ventured further east than Dubai, perhaps I have been mesmerised by Dubai and its bright lights, lol. Until I venture further a field or Dubai Law changes drastically, I shall always have a soft spot for Dubai.