KOS in Costa Rica

[King of Sluts]

Thread Starter.

[King of Sluts]

Yes, The Jackson has expanded my knowledge to many different threads and I have been to San Jose many many times, in which I can give many of you newbies to san jose a little help.

First of all, San Jose is like a "central America for dummies" city, meaning, many many people speak english, and or mostly everyone has been influenced by us americans, which ruins the country a little. I mean, why does someone want to travel to costa rica and be in a america influenced country.

On to the whooores, all right.

By far the best value in the city is "OASIS", in paseo colon. The girls for one hour charge like twenty dollars, and actually, some of the chicks are kind of hot. I was surprised, but really for the price, Oasis is a great place to hit for the day. To get there, just tell the taxi driver that you want to go to the restaurant "Machu Picchu", and the casa de puta is directly across the street. You will see three gentlemen who are security. I believe by far this is the best whorrre house for the money. Oasis definitley gets five stars.

Nuevo Fantasia, I did not find anything that was decent, ugly girls and the prices were double because it is more popular. Oasis was much cheaper, but I found double the clients here, Americans, because of the location. I would not go back unless to see if the women doubled in beauty, even then, it might not be that good.

Zona Blue, not bad, but nothing to go crazy about, except a couple little cuties. Maybe 3 or four decent girls, but the price is double because of the location, and the girls are half as pretty as oasis. I banged a couple fake blond Nicas, not bad service, but overpriced.

Famous Blue Marlin, nothing great, every girl wants 100 dollars, but can be talked down depending on the night and availibility of clients. This place seems to be a meeting place for old men who have left the United States, and are in search of young women to become there wives. These guys are marrying these prositutes, and the girls are so happy because they do not have to prostitute anymore. Not bad selection, but overpriced gringo joint. Also to many peddlers looking for american dollars outside. Not so good.

Key Largo and other joints in Merced area, all right ladies, but to many Americans as the prices have been driven up here. Just too many americans.

Elite, many attractive slim body girls, but the prices are bullshit. I got the girls numbers, then called them the next day for service. Cut out elite and there high prices. Also Elite is in many countries including panama, same style, just ticas and nicas.

Many other small clubs that are starting up in the Merced area, cannot remember all the names, but they are all in Zona Rosa, merced area. This area has many streetwalkers at night, but many trannies, so be careful.


If I was to return to San Jose, I would go to Oasis everyday, then hit either Elite or Blue Marlin at night. The best looking women are all of those locations. I just was not to impressed with being with so many Americans at the Blue Marlin.

KOS

[Dortmunder]

Any advice for incall service?

Thanks.

Dortmunder

[King of Sluts]

I did not experience many incall services in Costa rica, they are there, but did not partake because was to busy in Paseo Colon and others.

For Incall with hot chicks, I would go to Elite in Paseo Colon, and ge the hoes numbers for the next day, they will do it. Just make sure no one sees you getting the number, they can be pricks.

The best situation would be to bang a couple hours in Oasis, then ge something to eat at pizza hut or other numerous restaturants, bang again at oasis, then hit elite when it opens. Get the girls numbers and hang out the next day. They love dollars those little hoes.

Kos

[King of Sluts]

OASIS is by far the best value for the city. I would only go to oasis during the day, cheap bang with a couple serious hotties. I would go here almost everyday if I lived in San Jose. Cheap service for one hour, considering in the United States that you cannot even get a good blow for 20 dollars for 10 minutes.

Kos

[NastyBoy]

...considering in the United States that you cannot even get a good blow for 20 dollars for 10 minutes.
Kos

not to mention the $30 for anal

NB

[ChicaLover]

"First of all, San Jose is like a "central America for dummies" city. "

Finally, someone who says it like it is. Except King of Sluts is being way to kind. San Jose was Central America for dummies 3 or 4 years ago. Now, San Jose could better be described as "Central America of complete and pathetic morons". If you ever want to see a bunch of morons who buy into anything a female will tell them, this is the place to go to. Basically, the place has become overrun with pathetic gringos who have gotten their asses handed to them by many feminazis/vultures from the states. Have not learned from their mistakes, and now see CR as something different and are now getting their asses handed to them by the latinas. If you are prepared to be treated like a complete moron by chicas and have to pay top dollar for that honor this is your place. This happens because of the type of spineless dudes down there that are making the market.

My conclusion has become that CR has passed the tipping point and is in a vicious cycle. More moron gringos will attract more moron gringos and will only continue to cause the place to get more expensive with worse chica attitudes. There are some decent guys out there trying to fight the good fight and preach not to overpay when there is no reason to do so. But it really has no effect, an asshole is an asshole and will always let themself be taken advantage of. I have concluded it is a no win situation and best to move on to where the pathetic types aint and not disclose the locations of the new found places that makes my world spin.

[Circle]

Where is Elite and what is it? a strip club? I went to lipsticks and the place across the street, but they were stupid. No hot girls, and they just sit there eating dinner or whatever. But the idea of going somewhere to find hot girls to get their numbers for later sounds like a good plan, esp. After seeing what the BM is like (attitude and price wise). Even spain is a better deal than that place.

[King of Sluts]

Yeah, San Jose is filled with americans looking for that ass in the city. Elite is on the main street in Paseo Colon, you cannot miss it as it has a big sign that says Elite, just like in Panama. Get the girls numbers, then call them the next day.

Go to Oasis during the day for a good 20 dollar bang, which is across the street from Machu Picchu, then go get something to eat at pizza hut or wherever, then walk to elite at night, you can do all on the same street as everything is walking distance.

KOs

[King of Sluts]

Oasis, oh how I wish that I was in San Jose, Costa Rica to bang some of that ass for 20 dollars, it was great ass for very cheap. I loved Oasis, and for the price, what a price. There was a little slim body there that fucked like a racehoorse. She was small, black hair, and would could suck three golf balls through a garden hose at the same time.

KOS

[Rebel Monger]

This place seems to be a meeting place for old men who have left the United States, and are in search of young women to become there wives.Of course most of those old men are looking for wives.....for a few hours!
KOS, you seem to be exaggerating a bit, do you happen to be Cuban!?

[King of Sluts]

I am no cuban, give me break. I just like giving you guys the good stuff, and I will not return to the blue marlin until I am fifty years old and looking for a young prostitute as a wife. Ahahhaahah

You old men are funny, marry those prostittues and they will take of with there american papers. You were warned.

Kos

[King of Sluts]

Oasis is the best value for the dollar here, many hot spinners and I love the price. Just tell the taxi to take you to Machu Pichu in paseo colon, it is rights off the main street maybe a couple blocks down. You will have to walk up a flight of stairs after you pass the security at the bottom door.

Kos

[Psychman]

Yeah, San Jose is filled with americans looking for that ass in the city. Elite is on the main street in Paseo Colon, you cannot miss it as it has a big sign that says Elite, just like in Panama. Get the girls numbers, then call them the next day.

Go to Oasis during the day for a good 20 dollar bang, which is across the street from Machu Picchu, then go get something to eat at pizza hut or wherever, then walk to elite at night, you can do all on the same street as everything is walking distance.

KOsFirst, it is now 24 bucks (It is up to 12,000). Still cheap. Also, no need for Pizza Hut; as you noted Machu Picchu is right across the street, and has fantastic food. Three other MPs in that area are also good options when the girls at Oasis are busy.Two have beds if you prefer not doing the massage table thing.

[King of Sluts]

Hey Psychman,

Give me a list of the three other places that are available in the area of Oasis. I am not sure that I have heard of anything else in that particular area except Elite on the main street, and elite is a high priced strip/hoe house.

Kos

[NastyBoy]

Hey Psychman,

Give me a list of the three other places that are available in the area of Oasis. I am not sure that I have heard of anything else in that particular area except Elite on the main street, and elite is a high priced strip/hoe house.

Kos

KOS,

I know that one of them is Veronica's. Down the street from KFC and across the street from the internet cafe.

Around the corner from Oasis, Harry had another place called Safiros or some shit like that. Much lower tier than Oasis. And further up the road from that place, a block down from the bank is another place, but I can't remember the name. I heard they have a bed and jacuzzi in there, but all I saw was one lazy chica watching tv so I did not stick around.

[Prolijo]

KOS,
I believe the 3 places that Psychman and NB are referring to are Veronicas, Manitas Travietas and VIPS (not to be confused with the VIPS Bar in the Zona Roja). You'll probably need much better directions than NB provided to find them. Pics would be even better since they are somewhat indistinct and poorly marked. If you've been to Oasis you should know what I mean. IF you have access to my map you'll find pics, directions, rates etc. for all 4 places in that area.

Here are the basic directions. If you continue down the Paseo Colon past the KFC and take your first left Veronicas will be on your left about half way down the block (Calle 36 between Ave 2 y P. Colon). I believe Manitas is the place NB referred to as Safiros. If you head up from Paseo Colon from the KFC and take a right at the intersection before Oasis and Machu Pichu, Manitas will be on your left. and if you continue down that street (Ave. 1) another couple of blocks you'll come to VIPS.

These places are typical tico places like any of the others back in the Zona Roja. Talent is always going to be hit or miss. If you want reviews of these other places), well you should know which website to go to to find them (hint: it has costarica and the term for its women in its title). There are actually supposed to be few other MP's around there as well but that is all I know of personally.

[King of Sluts]

Mongers,

I have not been to costa rica, and have no plans to return for awhile, but when I do, I will check out the three places in paseo colon. I had no idea that there were three more cheap whooorehouses in the area of my favoite oasis. Keep pounding those little hoes, they love the attention.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

American Airlines is having a good rate for San Jose, Costa Rica. Not a bad price. Thinking of taking a flight just to bang some asss in my favorite Oasis. I love Oasis, especially a short little girl with black hair, and a super firm body, cannot recall her name, but for 24 dollars, a bargain for a little hottie.

Kos

[King of Sluts]

Oasis Oasis Oasis, oh how do I miss banging a little hottie at Oasis for twenty four dollars. Costa Rica is cool, better than Panama, and sometimes I wish that I woul dhave lived in Costa Rica for many years, than Panama. Costa Rica is way more cool.

Kos

[Columbian Lover]

Gentlemen,

I am coming to SJ the end of September for a business trip.

I am look for some suggestions on where to go for the ladies and drink a little too. Most of my free time will be at night.

I am not sure where I am staying yet (looking for suggestions too), but I need some good places to go at night.

Let me know if anyone can help me.

Thanks

[Common Sense]

Gentlemen,

I am coming to SJ the end of September for a business trip.

I am look for some suggestions on where to go for the ladies and drink a little too. Most of my free time will be at night.

I am not sure where I am staying yet (looking for suggestions too), but I need some good places to go at night.

Let me know if anyone can help me.

ThanksTravelwind,

There is an entire encyclopedia of information regarding where to go and what to do while in San Jose. Alls ya gotta do is scroll through all the reports in the San Jose section. Nevertheless, I have been to San Jose once and I'll give you my two cents on what I know. First of all, I stayed at the hotel Presidente where rates were reasonable and there was no extra charge for bringing one chica to the room(check w/senior members to be sure this policy is still in affect). The hotel is in a great location b/c it's in walking distance to all the action you're looking for. It's located on Ave. Central y Calle 7, phone (506)222-3022. Chica central is at the Blue Marlin inside the Hotel Del Ray(only blocks from Presidente). You can go here anytime from afternoon to the wee hours to find chicas, food, and alcohol. Next door is Key Largo-another great chica/bar hang-out. The prices for pulling a chica at these locales are a little more than the MP's. For the best bang for your buck, visit MP's:

1) Idem-Calle 11 Avenida 8 y 10
2) Zona Blue-Calle 3B y Ave. 9
3) Oasis-On Calle 32 1 block North of Paseo Colon

The quality of chicas in these places change like the weather, so if you don't like one check out the other. Have fun and drink one for me(man law!). Of course, there are other places to go but this is the cream of the crop. Oh yeah, give us a trip report upon your return.

[Columbian Lover]

Thank you for the information Common Sense.

Are the other places you mentioned like the Oasis very far from the Del Ray or the Presidente?

Do you think the Presidente is a good businessman's hotel? This is a work trip even though I am going to mix the two. So, if I get picked up by one of my customers there, it will not look bag. I hate to ask it that way.

Is there any other good hotels downtown or in the area?

So, what is the going rate? In the Blue Marlin or Oasis?

Are all these places WG spots? Is there any possible freebe spots?

Thanks

[Prolijo]

travelwind,

are the other places mentioned very far from the del rey or prez? depends on what you consider far. the prez may be only 1 block from the dr, which is not very far by anyone's definition for walking by day, but you can easily get into trouble walking even that short distance after dark and many will advise you to take a cab. zona blue and idem are 4-5 blocks in opposite directions from gringo gulch (what the prez/del rey area is commonly known as) and can easily be walked to during the daytime when you'd most likely want to visit them. oasis is a bit further to the west. i'd take a cab day or night but a few ambitious (or cheap) souls have been known to walk there.

do you think the presidente is a good businessman's hotel? it is not a pure monger's hotel like the del rey since it also gets a lot of eco-tourists (and seems to be courting them more than us since they instituted their infamous chica dress code). i don't know how many businessman they get, but if you stay at any hotel in the heart of the gulch like that, some people may have at least some suspicions about the reason for your choice of location. it's nice to be close to the blue marlin and key largo, but you're probably not going to be walking there after dark anyway when you'd most often go (the kl is only open later at night) and there are many other venues to visit rep001tered about the area and around town.

are there any other good hotels downtown or in the area? for businessmen who want to somewhat discreet about their motivations, i'd recommend staying at one of the us chain hotels in that area. that way you could always claim that as a reason for your choice. since there are so many choices for more local eco-tourist or boutique hotels staying at one in that area is more likely to raise the question about why you picked one in that area. i wouldn't recommend the sleep inn or holiday inn due to their chica fees but the clarion amon plaza and the best western downtown are also popular with many mongers. the bw is located a slightly longer distance from the gulch but is in the heart of zona roja with many cheap tico mp's around it. i think the amon plaza is nicer and is closer to the more upscale gringo mp's (zona blue & new fantasy) 4 blocks north of the gulch. if you go for the amon book through the casino to get lower rates and avoid chica fees.

so, what is the going rate? in the blue marlin or oasis? you could have learned this on your own without even having to go back more than a page or 2 in the main section since we just had an in depth discussion of this subject. basically the rate is typically about $20-25/hr at the cheap tico mp's (like oasis) and $40-45/hr at more upscale mp's (like zb, nf and idem). those are set prices with no negotiating. at hdr/kl it is more complex. the chicas will usually ask $100/hr which is totally ridiculous given the rates elsewhere, but some fool greenhorn newbies will pay it. negotiating down to $60 is very do-able. i never pay more than $70 if i'm really hot on a girl. you can sometimes get a girl down to as low as $40/hr if you work your charm. some will argue this can regularly be done. in my experience it has gotten a lot harder to do due to the competition from overspending newbies and you'll have to sort through a lot of chicas and work it before you'll find a taker for that low but for some that hunt is part of the fun.

are all these places wg spots? is there any possible freebe spots? yes, you may find some semi-pros at the bars but if you have to pay it is still a working girl. if you want to go for freebies, then you will have to be the one who really works it. personally, i think you'll really have your work cut out for you if you're only in sj for a shorttime and are uncertain when or even if you'll be back. some chicas will put out on the first date, others you'll need to court (which pretty much kills it if you're only in town for a week). of the ones that put out right away, it won't help either if they know you're going to blow out of their lives in less than a week. and with any type, your appeal will still probably mainly be your deep pockets. so expect to be expected to pay at least for dinner, drinks and perhaps some shopping or an outright rfm to help her out with her bebes. personally, you could try to go for freebies during your week there but given the already low rates vs the effort involved i'd say why bother on such a short visit.

btw, isn't the whole rationale for mongering that we're always really paying for sex in one way or another anyway and that just paying cash outright is simpler than some other form of less direct financial or non financial payment. "we never pay for sex before sex, we only pay them to leave" is our mantra.

if you still want to give that a try. venues with non-wg possibilities include el pueblo, el cuartel, calle amargura, jazz cafe, club vertigo or just about any young chica on the street, in the park or at the mall.

[Columbian Lover]

I am sorry that you repeated a lot of things for me. I thank you for it.

I did go through some of the past post and would have found my answers sooner or later.

I guess I am still getting used to the site and was to lazy.

Thank you again for your help. I am looking forward to the visit.

This will be the first of many visits to the area since I have quite a few customers in San Jose.

Thank you again.

[Prolijo]

Travelwind,
No prob, man. Since you figure you'll be returning often, I'd play that up with the chicas you meet. Not just the non-pro's but the working girls as well. If they think you could become a regular with a lot of repeat business on future visits, they may provide better service on that hope. And as for the non-pro freebies, why not invest a little time into it? Even if it doesn't pay off on this visit it could when you return the following month.

[King of Sluts]

Oasis- Price is around 24 dollars per hour, it has the best looking chicks for the price, the girls here are much prettier than New Fantasy or Zona Blue. Maybe not prettier than Elite, but elite is a over priced strip club.

New Fantasy and Zona Blue are on the same street. The street is about a block behind the holiday inn, they have the same quality and similar prices, both double the price of oasis and others. I can only figure out the reason that people go here is because they do not want to take a taxi to paseo colon, which really is a better area. You are paying double the price per hour with about half the quality.

To get to Oasis, tell the taxi driver, "Machu Picchu, the entrance is right across the street.

[Columbian Lover]

Thanks for the tip Cahse. I will do that. I know you are right, I have had a similar experiance in Beijing a few years ago. On one of my first visits, I met a sweet girl at a local bar like KL or BM. We met at least one or two times everytime I came back.

I may also try the club list you suggested on Wednesday or Thursday night.

Thanks

[Columbian Lover]

So, since I am going to be close to the BM and KL and a couple of others around the area, what is the best? Do they all have music and dancing?

What is a good time to go down at night?

I have found that in similar places, they all arrive at about the same time.

Any other suggestions?

[Columbian Lover]

Ok, from the way it sounds, speaking Spanish is a plus, but how important is it?
I speak some Spanish and have been try to do a little brush up, but I do not think I am going to give a speach.

So, do most of the WG of BM and KL speak English enough? I have until Sunday night to try to remember as much as I can.

Do you think that is enough?

[King of Sluts]

Travelwind and Others,

You do not have to speak spanish in Costa Rica, Costa Rica is basically a territory of the united states, that is a fact. All the ticos and ticas that I met spoke english. Although the pros really do not speak english, just a couple words. All the people at the airport, hotels, rental cars, and even vendors on the street speak some english. The pros really do not, some try to speak words, but they are hoes, what do you expect. Let me know how the girls went, give me an update on the women of Costa Rica, the Nicas are cute, probably the best of costa are the Nicas.

KOS

[Prolijo]

kos,
with all due respect, calling cr a territory of the us is going a bit far. you did include the word basically in there but that was not emphasized enough. it is a country with close ties to the us. most of its tourism, which has grown to be its primary industry, comes from the us. even with its other industries -agricultural like bananas and coffee or industrial like computer chips and apparel - find their largest market in the us. however, it is definitely its own country with its own foreign policy and proud tradition of democracy of its own. if you don't believe this just look at all the resistance us negotiators ran into in cr over lafta.

i'd also differ with you somewhat though not entirely on english speaking. english is widely spoken if you stick mainly to the tourist circuit. even there the level of that english speaking ability varies widely. if you go off that circuit, e.g. shop in grocery stores instead of tourist shops, take buses instead of interbus tourist shuttle cans, visit local barrios outside the gulch or wealthy areas like escazu or small towns rep001tered around the country instead of the usual fortuna-sta. elena-jaco-quepos circuit, i think you'll find that the english capabilities are usually very broken if they exist at all.

as far as the english spoken at a place like the bm. some of those women you call hoes actually speak english quite well, which is not at all surprising considering the amount of contact they have with gringos. as for the others, their lack of english ability is not at all a function of their choice of occupation as it is the fact that they all come from very poor backgrounds. if you were to stop the average tico on the street who comes from the same background as them you would probably find even less english ability. another thing is the fact that there are longtime bm pros that speak english is still not a cop out for not learning spanish yourself. you may be able to converse more easily with those types of pros but aside from that advantage they may not be the type of chica you really want to be with precisely because they've been at the trade that long and often have learned some other less desireable ticks of the trade along with that english.

so my own answer to travelwind would be this. if you learn just basic spanish or even no spanish at all you'll still probably be able to get by with the broken english of some chicas at the bm. this is particularly true if you plan to just restrict yourself to the key elements of p4p conversation. if you want to have a more entertaining time at the bar the more you can converse with the chica the better. btw, her ability to understand you will make you more desirable as a client as much as her english might make her more desirable to you (if you can follow all that).
it helps both of you better assess the other. it makes your interactions less tedious. the fact that you can speak spanish or can show you're at least trying to learn your language will help score you points that could lead to better service, better prices or both.it widens your options rather than making you consciously or subconsciously restrict your selection based on language rather than other factors that should count more. so learn as much spanish as you can and you should be fine and get by, but the more you learn the better. obviously between now and your trip, you'll only be able to pick up so much, but there are always future trips. you'll see. how much is enough? for many of us there is never enough short of fluency.

oh yeah, timing for the bm and the kl. the bm is a 24 hour place that you can poke your head into at any time of the day or night but starts to get busier around dinner time (including the unoffical pre-dinner happy hour) and gets progressively busier as the night goes along) later at night it stays somewhat busy though the selection quality may have dropped off. some chicas go for multiple sessions in the course of an evening, which may not be so great if that translates into rushed service in order for them to get back to the bm and make another score, and some just want to hit their mark. so by later at night the better ones may have been grabbed and are either on tln's or have taken their winnings and gone home. the kl is only an evening place. not sure exactly when it opens but the music usually doesn't start until 10 or later and that is when it starts to pick up.

[Noguera]

I agree whole heartedly with KOS's earlier comment ...... the best women in Costa Rica are the Nicas. They are cute, fun, alive, and really enjoy a good time, without that arrogant haughtiness of the Ticas.

[Prolijo]

Noquera,
I meant to include that with my reply too but, as is so often the case with me, I covered a lot of ground and forgot to mention it. I agree with both of you. My own preference also happens to be for Nicas in general. What I'd like to add as a further generalization, in the context of our present discussion, is that the flipside of the Nicas is that they seem to be slightly even less apt than some of the other nationalities to speak much english. YMMV

[King of Sluts]

Chase,

You are getting a little to sensitive in regards to Costa Rica, I mean, Costa Rica is the most americanized country that I have ever been too, I mean they are so custom to us americans that they are acutally geting tired of us americans there, it is amazing. Costa Rica is like a foreign country for dummies, meaning the people are harmless, nice and helpful and they want our DOLLARS. It is so americanized that even have those piece of junk restaurants like Dennys about five minutes from the airport. I have never met so many taxis that speak english. Chase, I have to wonder if you are a tico. Probably are a tico, you have a cool country. No worries, but I probably know san jose and the beaches better than you

Noguera, the King Of Sluts, or Rey de Rameras, likes the NICAS, THE NICAS understand what a guy wants, tehy are great little girls for banging. Even though there teeth are some times crooked, they have slim little bodies and give great service, I love them little girls. The Nicas run Costa Rica and are such little honnies that I only go with the Nicas. Oh Nicas, how I wish I was there to bang you.

KOS

[Noguera]

KOS and Chase

Just to affirm the pro Nica lobby, here on the CR board ...... I am headed to Tegucigalpa and read such miserable things on the Tegucigalpa board that I am "bringing my own with me"! And yes ... she is a Nica! I will fly her up from Managua for 3-4 days, just so I can have fun with a Nica while in Honduras.

Now there is a glowing recommendation for the Nicas!

[Prolijo]

Chase,

You are getting a little to sensitive in regards to Costa Rica, I mean, Costa Rica is the most americanized country that I have ever been too, I mean they are so custom to us americans that they are acutally geting tired of us americans there, it is amazing. Costa Rica is like a foreign country for dummies, meaning the people are harmless, nice and helpful and they want our DOLLARS. It is so americanized that even have those piece of junk restaurants like Dennys about five minutes from the airport. I have never met so many taxis that speak english. Chase, I have to wonder if you are a tico.KOS,
You read me completely wrong. I'm not sensitive about anything you say nor take any offense by it and I'm not a tico, though I'm flattered that you think my knowledge of CR is such that would be a possibility. I just PARTIALLY disagree with some of your assertions.

If CR is the most "americanized" country you've ever been to, I have to wonder what other countries you have been to. Certainly not Canada. And even the European countries are more like the US because they share the "1st world" level of development. If they're getting a little tired of us in CR, that is something they share in common with a lot of countries these days and just shows that at least in part they are resistant or resentful of any encroaching american cultural imperialism (again like most countries).

But I definitely DO AGREE with you about CR being like "a foreign country for dummies". In fact, I hope you don't mind if I steal that quote to use myself in the future. CR IS as easy to navigate as any DEVELOPING country I've been to. IMHO, that is a big part of what makes it so popular for so many 1st time 3rd world mongers as well as even "normal" gringo tourists. IMHO, CR is a good place for people to start mongering and even to continue with if that is what they're comfortable with, but I'd be the absolute LAST person to say that CR is the be-all and end-all for mongering or anything else.

What makes them americanized? That they "want our DOLLARS". So what? Of course they do. So do most poor countries, "americanized" or not. What makes CR different is they're in the "enviable"(?) position of actually being able to do it because of heavy tourist traffic. What also made (past tense) them different was that they really were (past tense again) mostly harmless and tourists could visit there with much less fear of crime than if they had ventured to some other developing country. But that was a GOOD thing and unfortunately it is becoming much less true. OTOH, you could argue that is yet another way in which they are becoming more like us.

SO you can call CR "americanized" if you want. Sure you've got your Denny's "5 minutes from the INTERNATIONAL airport (where else would you expect it) and even KFC's downtown, but wake up, that unfortunate cultural development is occuring in MANY foreign countries these days. In CR it is mainly restricted to the capital of SJ and in the nearby gringo enclaves like Escazu. Jaco is another case that might fit your pattern and for many gringo mongers that is the limit of their experience with CR beach towns, but that is hardly representative. Ever been to Dominical, Golfito, Cahuita, etc.? Even Quepos, with its heavy tourist presence is little touched if at at all by US chains. And if you go off the tourist track to more remote villages or even larger towns like San Carlos, San Isidro, Puntarenas, etc. you won't find those things you're complaining about. So either you really do know something I don't about places off the gringo trails or else you really don't have as much experience as you say.

CR IS becoming INCREASINGLY americanized and certainly compared to many other countries I've been is ALREADY heavily americanized. But it is NOT there YET. There are definitely many places that are much worse and CR still has far to go before you or anyone else can declare it a 51st state. Leave that dubious honor for Puerto Rico.

[Tuna Man]

KOS,

I agree with you about the Nicas, they are great.

But if Panama is not good anymore and CR is going downhill, why don't you go to Nicaragua? Go right to the source.

Also in Peru, Colombia and Ecuador there are lots and lots of chicas from $7 on up. CR and Panama are not your only choices.

[King of Sluts]

Yeah, I will be going to Nicaragua in the future and will have to sample the local talent. But I heard the pay for play is great and would love to sample some of the hotties, but the prices are high. I mean no girl in Central or South America deserves more than 40 dollars a hour.

KOS

[Prolijo]

Yeah, I will be going to Nicaragua in the future and will have to sample the local talent. But I heard the pay for play is great and would love to sample some of the hotties, but the prices are high. I mean no girl in Central or South America deserves more than 40 dollars a hour.

KOSActually, I've heard the opposite. I don't really know. Maybe they meant the prices are high for what you GET. The thing I have heard though is that the prices are actually a little cheaper in Nicaragua and that because the better looking girls can command higher prices where monger traffic is higher (such as in CR) that is why you see so many of them going there, rather than the other way around. That leaves the ones that serve more the local market in Nicaragua and they tend to not be as good looking. Again, this is all hearsay since I haven't actually been there myself. Please post back in this forum (as well as in the Nica forum) after you go and let us know how you think the nica girls actually compare between the 2 countries.

[Dodger Bulldog]

I have heard though is that the prices are actually a little cheaper in Nicaragua and that because the better looking girls can command higher prices where monger traffic is higher (such as in CR) that is why you see so many of them going there, rather than the other way around. That leaves the ones that serve more the local market in Nicaragua and they tend to not be as good looking.
You really won't have any trouble finding plenty of hotties with great attitudes in Nicaragua, as the country is chock full of them.

It is true that at one point in their career many chicas will venture elsewhere in search of their fortune, but most don't. And of those who do leave, many will return home quickly.

Think of them as "migrant" sex workers, who come and go.

They miss the children they left behind, have family issues, become homesick, get fired, can run into visa problems with the authorities, or may need to escape from a new boyfriend who beats them, cheats on them, or casts them aside.

The girls often experience cliques, jealousies, and cat-fighting inside the clubs. Especially the hottest ones.

They may find the cost-of-living or working conditions or living arrangements in their new countries to be intolerable.

Many simply can't deal with the adjustments or culture shock of living in a new country.

Incomes fluctuate, clubs lose popularity, drugs can take control. Looks fade, bodies change, dreams are dashed.

Monotony sets in.

Any or all of these issues will often serve to drive them back to Nicaragua.

When I lived in Guatemala, where the club owners regularly go on scouting trips to recruit Nicas, it was typical that a newbie would last 2-3 months before she went back home.

It was often my good fortune to be able to serve as a "respite home" on their day off for chicas who were saving up to buy a bus ticket back to Nicaragua. I had many opportunities to delve into their psyches and begin to learn from them what their lives were like.

It was rare to find one who survived there for the long haul. And even these long-termers were often on a schedule of six months working the club, six months back home.

When my buddy Noguera returns from his current jaunt to Central America he may be better able to address this issue. He is the expert, as he lived in Nicaragua for many years. I believe he will tell you that it is still his favorite place to monger.

DB

[Sexy Boy]

I mean no girl in Central or South America deserves more than 40 dollars a hour.

KOSI was wondering why a guy likes you that don’t like Latin America is so frequently going there. Hey friend I think you haven’t gone to Brazil or Argentina. There you could find some of the most beautiful women on earth. But to get laid you need the correct attitude.

[Columbian Lover]

Well after all my question to you guys I finally was able to see what you all see mostly everyday.

My origional plan was to arrive last Sunday afternoon and stay till Saturday morning. Well as it happened, I only could stay till Thursday morning. I had to fly to Trinidad for another meeting.

Let's start with my hotel. I stayed at the Presidente. Very nice hotel. Great staff and very close to BM and some others. I have no problem bring anyone home. I would suggest it to anyone. Met alot of other guys staying there and have been coming there for years. My only problem was that my business during the day was out of town, so morning trafic was hard.

Started at the BM early Sunday night. What a great place. I wish there was one of those in every city I travel to. The girls behond the bar were very nice. It was hard to decide what to look at them or the ladies walking around the bar.

Met someone that night who I really enjoyed and I think she did to. I don't have a lot of wild details, but it was just nice.

Took the night off on Monday so just went over to look.

Met a friend of the girl from Sunday, who was very interested in me from her friend. Again, nice.

As for Wednesday, my last night. Since my flight was at 7am, it did not make much sence to try to sleep for only a few hours so I stayed up.

Met someone, but could tell that she would not have been much fun, but we talked for a long time.

Then I saw her. She was a Columbian with long dark hair, not really big, just right all over. We talked for a few hours and decided to go.

Well to say the least, she was by far the best I have ever had. I only wished I would have met her on Sunday night.

We have talked since I have left. I hope to be back in a month or two for another trip. I would love to see her again.

If anyone needs any more infor on the hotel or anything else, please let me know.

Thanks

[Noguera]

Dodge ... your comments on the psyche of the typical Nica are 100% on the money. I am really impressed as you have learned well ... "Grasshopper"! I really have nothing more to add, you have said it perfectly on knowing the mente de las muchachas Nicas!

[Grand Pollo]

Actually, I've heard the opposite. I don't really know. Maybe they meant the prices are high for what you GET. The thing I have heard though is that the prices are actually a little cheaper in Nicaragua and that because the better looking girls can command higher prices where monger traffic is higher (such as in CR) that is why you see so many of them going there, rather than the other way around. That leaves the ones that serve more the local market in Nicaragua and they tend to not be as good looking. Again, this is all hearsay since I haven't actually been there myself. .

Read posts in the Nicaragua forum as this information is false.

The prices are a LOT cheaper, SW are $12, MP's $12-15 and girls are easy to come home with you for a day or night out of strip clubs and MP for peanuts.

[Prolijo]

GP,
Re-read my post.

a) My post was actually a response to KOS who was the one saying "the prices are high. I mean no girl in Central or South America deserves more than 40 dollars a hour." Why don't you direct your comment to him?

b) I also actually said the prices were cheaper. We only differ on the degree that we suggest those prices are cheaper. Frankly, if you must know, I only added the words "a little" to be a "a little" diplomatic to KOS.

c) I actually tried to make it quite clear that I had no personal knowledge of Nicaragua and thus my words were never meant to be the gospel.

My main point was also more a question about the RELATIVE QUALITY of WORKING chicas available in Nicaragua vs. those that you'll see at places like the BM in CR. And that is largely a subjective matter of opinion. However, Dodger raised some interesting counterpoints in this debate. I never doubted what he said about the country being chock full of hotties was true, but we're talking here only about the ones who make themselves available for P4P and where they do it. I'm also sure some of what he said about the girls traveling back and forth is also true. But lets look at some of that:

1) Family issues - undoubtedly a factor but unlike dominicanas or even colombianas, they can more easily take regular hops back and forth over the border whenever homesickness gets too bad.

2) Visa problems - Visas? What Visas? Most are probably there illegally without any visa at all. How hard do you think it is for a chica with a pocketful of cash to pass undetected in a city like SJ? If they get caught and deported, how hard is it for them to just hop back over the border again?

3) Boyfriend problems - this is probably more or the factor that drives them over the border in the first place away from their Nico novios, than the other way around.

4) Workplace problems - no less a problem back in Nicaragua than it would be in CR. They can't get fired at the BM. If they get fired from one strip joint in SJ or have co-worker issues, its not like there aren't others where they can find work. If they get fired was it for problems that we as customers don't want to get involved with anyway?

5) Cost of living - is higher in CR and thus a factor, but not nearly as much as their increased income or else why would so many Nicas travel to CR and NO Ticas travel the other way?

6) Culture shock - This isn't like you or me traveling from the US to CR. Its more like us traveling to Canada. There just isn't THAT wide a difference between Nicaragua and CR culturally.

7) "Incomes fluctuate, clubs lose popularity, drugs can take control. Looks fade, bodies change, dreams are dashed. Monotony sets in." First, the popularity of CR as a mongering destination is anything but fading (except perhaps among knowledgeable vets who have seen the changes). If one place declines, 2 other new ones take its place. Individual girls can start to find their income potential decline. As you said drugs can take control, looks fade, bodies change, dreams are dashed because they find they can't share in the demand due to competition from hotter chicas. And so they return to Nicaragua. THESE ARE ALL REASONS TIED TO THE QUALITY OF THE CHICA AND ONLY BUTTRESS MY ARGUMENT

While I haven't been to Nicaragua YET, another basis for my argument is what I see myself in CR. While attractive chicas can come from just about anywhere in CR and the rest of Latin America, at least in CR you don't normally see the quality working chicas except in SJ and increasingly Jaco and even in those 2 cities you primarily see them at the venues that cater primarily to rich foreign tourists (e.g. the BM, the BB etc.). Why if you can find attractive chicas from smaller towns like San Isidro, Cartago, Puntarenas, etc. in the BM can't you find them plying that trade back in their home villlages? Do those girls never go home?

There are several reasons. First, they work where the most money is. However, for many its the old adage about "not shitting where you eat". They don't want friends or relatives to know what they're really doing to earn a living or if they're sending back huge sums of money they want those relatives to be able to pretend not to know. Despite the relative acceptance of prostitution in Latin America compared to the US, it is still a profession that carries a huge stigma. This is why you'll find plenty of regular Ticas who don't want to be even seen around notorious places like the BM. Of course, if you're a Nica who that they know is going to see and know?

Getting back to Nicaragua (again here it is only speculation). I'm sure you can find skanky chicas plying the streets for $10-12 bucks. Heck, you can find SW's for that in CR too, but I wouldn't go with any of them. I'm also sure you can find "better" chicas at various bars and MP's. But why would the best chicas work for that much cheaper in Nicaragua under the eyes of their family and neighbors when they can command so much more in the much more active gringo market in CR? Its not that hard to go over the border. In fact, tens of 1000's of nicaraguans do so for much less money to pick coffee, etc. I'd be willing to allow that you'll find SOME that don't want to travel away from their families at all. I'd be willing to allow that SOME that travel to CR also ply their trade a little when they come back home. But I suspect, again only speculation, most of those migrant sex workers earn as much as they can while at the BM and other "rich feeding grounds" and come home only to visit their family and spend all that hard earned cash.

[King of Sluts]

When I in central or south america, I want girls who are perfect tens, not below a ten. I want the girls in central and south america on the cheap, the kind of girls that in the united states charge 600 to 1000 a hour for a piece of ass. I prefer to save the money and take a flight and hotel and bang tens on the cheap. But the tens in managua are expensive, I am not talking about any type of ass. I want tens, perfect models.

KOS

[Dodger Bulldog]

chase,

you know i like you. i have told you before that i think you are a very thoughtful and intelligent guy, and that i enjoy your posts.

but i wonder why you took issue with grand pollo, and then felt you had to defend yourself by raising arguments against my points. there was no need to do so.

the difference here is that you are talking about the way you imagine things to be, from the eyes of a vistor. but many things may not be apparent to a tourist, even a frequent one.

i have been fortunate enough to have lived in central america. chicas have been to my home, and i have been to theirs. i have sometimes even met family members and been involved in their lives over a period of time.

i am not just talking theory. i am reporting what i have observed myself, and what i have been told first hand by the chicas.

when a long-time managua resident and nica expert and aficionado such as noguera tells me “you have said it perfectly on knowing the mente de las muchachas nica,” i know that it really means something.

visas are definite problem for the chicas, because they do seldom have one. at least it is a problem in guatemala, where i lived.

i often saw a manager hustle the chicas out a back door and down a dark alley as the policia were coming in through the front. i watched the remaining girls have their papers checked to make sure that they were citizens or had visas.

i have actually paid a bribe to the police to let a chica go, who otherwise was going to be arrested for being in the country illegally.

the immigration authorities can pose a real problem for these girls.

you say that the chicas can't get fired at the bm. well, they can certainly be banned from working there, which amounts to the same thing.

perhaps you have never noticed that each time they come in they are required to show their id and get approval from the door man before entering. they have to prove they are on the list allowed to work there.

and the blue marlin is only one venue. the vast majority of the nicas throughout central america work in clubs or massage parlors. they have been recruited and shipped in by management.

often they live in club "owned-and-operated" dormitories, with perhaps up to 20 other chicas who they work with. they see the same girls all day that they work with all night. they eat meals together cooked by the company madam. the whole lot of them share one tv and one bathroom.

and believe me, these dorms are not exactly plush. i have been inside a few.

from our gringo point of view, it may seem easy to "hop back and forth" between nicaragua and the other countries in latin america, but it certainly is not easy for chicas.

i have known girls to save up for months to raise the bus fare, then travel perhaps 16 hours each way, over dusty roads, inhaling diesel fumes, while being hit on by drunks on the bus, just to see their families, for maybe a day or two.

sure, a decent chica can earn a lot more at a club in another country than in nicaragua, but what happens to that money?

besides having to pay for their own living expenses(often similar to working for the "company store" where they can never get ahead), they are also constantly buying new clothes and getting their hair and nails done, etc., to keep up with the competition and build up their own confidence.

but what usually siphons away the money is that these chicas are usually the only bread winner for an extended family. it is not unusual for them to have upwards of ten to twelve people sucking off their teats.

besides sending her mother money every week for [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) and food for her own kids, a chica may be paying tuition for a brother, have a cousin who needs medical care, and brother who can't or won't work, etc., etc., etc.

the first thing a chica does when she hits a new country (at least one who is not a lesbian) is to get herself a boyfriend. most are way too insecure to want to live without one. hot girls especially, value themselves by having a guy they can call their own.

and believe me, they get treated like shit. sometimes they catch their guy screwing someone else, often another girl from the club.

i have known chicas who managed to move in with a guy, thinking she's "arrived," only to be summarily thrown out on a moments notice.

i have been with chicas who took their clothes off, to reveal bruises from their breasts down to their ass, where the guy was clever enough to beat them only in places that it wouldn't show, so they can keep on dancing and bringing money home to him.

it might not seem like much culture shock to you, but i have known chicas who missed the heat, because it was only 72 degrees in guatemala. or they miss the beach and can't handle living in the mountains. they miss the nica holidays and food and traditions. they may miss the rural life and have trouble adapting to a big city.

while the differences maybe subtle to you and me, it can be significant to the girls when they are living far away from all they have ever known.

i live in florida, a transient state, and have known many people who can’t handle the differences in just being here. they have to go back to north carolina or wisconsin or new jersey or where ever they came from. it is really no different.

i, for one, tend to glorify and objectify the chicas, thinking that they must have it made because they are so hot and command such attention and can make so much money in such a short period of time. it feels like they are totally in control of the situation.

in rare cases that may be true. but in most cases being a migrant sex worker is a hard, hard life. it often takes incredible inner strength and motivation for them to make a consistent living this way, doing many things that you and i would not do, often with men who they have no desire to be around.

i think it is important to understand the world that the chicas actually live in. it is not at all as we gringos imagine it to be.

i have found the more i learn about these chicas, the more i have come to respect and appreciate and admire them.

db

[Prolijo]

Dodge,

I guess you need to re-read my post too. I wasn't taking issue with GP at all. In fact, I was pointing out to him that I had AGREED with him ALL ALONG that P4P was cheaper in Nicaragua. I was just redirecting his comment to where it should have gone in the first place. As for my "counter-counter arguments" that were directed to you, I wasn't defending myself at all either. I was just continuing the friendly debate, mi amigo. Its all in good fun.

Frankly, I don't think any of these comments are completely objective, notwithstanding your personal experiences. Maybe you have found that to be the case with some of the Nicas you have known (or at leat the ones you have known who have stayed in Nicaragua, which makes sense). Individual circumstances vary from chica to chica. The Nicas I have known on the CR side of the border have told a different story. Either way, we're talking in generalities here which are always very subjective. However, I understand your supporting arguments. Unfortunately, most of what you added in your last post doesn't really completely address the objections I raised in mine. I'll spare everyone the pain of my continuing to go over it point by point, but I will offer a couple of examples.

While my experience may not be as extensive as yours and is totally lacking on the ground in Nicaragua, like you I have personal experience with chicas of various nationalities IN CR and can draw some conclusions from that. For example, many chicas from other countries or even OTHER PARTS OF CR, leave their boyfriends back in their home towns. If they're all living in a group home with other chicas as you say, where are the novios? For the ones who come to SJ from other places those bruises are as apt to come from visits to their novio back home as they are from some tico boyfriend they might have taken up with in SJ. These out of town girls don't need to bother with any local ticos, if they go for any novio at all it will be some gringo who they can soak for more money and will treat them relatively nicely. Their latino boyfriends are probably the ones that knocked them up at an early age so that they had to go into the sex trade to begin with and if they haven't abandoned them yet are only there to claim a share of their earnings and normally they wouldn't follow them to CR. So I still fail to see how your comments about group homes, novios or mysterious bruises bolster your position. Finally, BM non-tica chicas often room together but the company house cum brothel that you refer to is probably more a staple of locales other than SJ and we're talking about the Nicas that come to SJ not Guatemala or Honduras. Again we're also talking about where the cream of the crop work, not the ones that work in little divey MP's. For those they can probably net as much at home as they can in CR.

One other example. When I said they couldn't be fired from the BM, I realized they could be banned. That is why I also added that if a chica gets banned from the BM or fired as an employee from some other type of venue, it probably was not the best sign of how great a provider she might be. If she was banned for bringing drugs into the club, or getting into fights with other chicas or ripping off one of the bar's gringo customers (which probably cover many of the most likely reasons), then is that really a chica one wants to get involved with. So repeating your point still missed what I was talking about. Also, you failed to explain to me how the problem of being fired and not being able to find employment at one of the other many places in SJ would be any worse than a similar problem back in Managua.

I'm not fighting you or getting defensive about my position. I'll be willing to grant that there are at least some really hot looking Nicas who despite the greater earning potential in CR prefer not to travel far from home and family or deal with some of the other negatives you mentioned and would rather ply their trade in Nicaragua even if for less money. But I still think the allure of the big money available just 150 miles over the border siphons off a good part of the best talent. Its all about supply and demand and with relative few barriers to entry the supply will always tend to flow where the demand is greatest, which for now happens to be CR.

[Dodger Bulldog]

The thing I have heard though is that the prices are actually a little cheaper in Nicaragua and that because the better looking girls can command higher prices where monger traffic is higher (such as in CR) that is why you see so many of them going there, rather than the other way around. That leaves the ones that serve more the local market in Nicaragua and they tend to not be as good looking. Again, this is all hearsay
I thought we were talking about if there are hot Nicas in Nicaragua, or if the better ones are to be found elsewhere.

I submit that there are more hot Nicas in Nicaragua than in any other country in the world.

And that many who leave do not leave for long, for one or more of the many reasons that I have detailed.

I described many of the problems that I have seen them face. Of course, no one chica in particular will experience them all, but most chicas will experience some of them.

Certain ones are resilient enough to deal with the issues and continue in their new country (god bless them!). However, many are not and they do return home to Nicaragua, perhaps to work there another day.

I'm glad we're friends. Maybe we can monger together and learn from each other some day.

DB

[Noguera]

In his 10/5/06 posting herein, King of Sluts states … "When I am in Central or South America, I want girls who are perfect tens, not below a ten. But the tens in Managua are expensive, I am not talking about any type of ass. I want tens, perfect models." With this comment in mind, I direct you to my 10/10 posting on the Managua thread. There you will find the perfect 10 in Nicaragua.

[King of Sluts]

Noguera,

She was not a ten in my book, maybe a 6(seis), but was bangable. I am talking about slim girls with big tits. I like big tits and dream of big tits on skinny girls, not these overwight american sea whales. Your girl noguera was ok, nothign speactaular.

Hotels in San Jose, not sure, I stayed around the blue marlin, Merced area, a little nutty at night. Someone posted a apartment for something like 15 dollars a night, not sure where it went, but it was cheap, and what us mongers are looking for.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Oasis, Oasis, Oasis is the name you want to remember gentlman. Go there and check out the ticas and nicas. Also, in regards to teh nicas, did anyone here about Nicaragua trying to build a canal, like the Panama canal, that would be amazing.

KOS

[Prolijo]

I thought we were talking about if there are hot Nicas in Nicaragua, or if the better ones are to be found elsewhere. I submit that there are more hot nicas in Nicaragua than in any other country in the world.You're reading my posts but not grasping what I've said. I NEVER said there weren't hot nicas in Nicaragua. It only makes sense that there would be more hot nicas in Nicaragua than in other country in the world because there are also more Nicas IN GENERAL in Nicaragua. Duh, there never was any debate on any of that. What I am debating is what proportions of those HOT nicas who are willing to ply the sex trade are more likely to ply it at home or next door in CR where they can make more money. So lets restrict the debate to that...
...And that many who leave do not leave for long, for one or more of the many reasons that I have detailed....Certain ones are resilient enough to deal with the issues and continue in their new country (god bless them!). However, many are not and they do return home to Nicaragua, perhaps to work there another day.First, as I've pointed out some of the reasons you detailed relating to the stress of the profession, conflicts with other girls at clubs, etc. apply whereever they work.

Second there is the reason I mentioned which you haven't addressed that is particularly important in paradoxically religiously catholic Central America. I say paradoxially because while the people may seem more open to the idea of prostitution and it is okay for guys to use them, it still isn't exactly an honorable profession that one would want to advertise their daughter is engaged in. And for that reason, many girls actually prefer, if they're going to be hookers, to do it away from the eyes of their family and neighbors. Maybe they tell the truth about how they make the money they're sending home or maybe they lie about it, but I'm sure that they and those that get the money don't exactly advertise what they do amongst their parent's friends. And it is easier to keep that a secret if they're far enough from home.

Third, many DO return home. I never disputed that. I question how many that return home continue to practice prostitution once they get back or do they either find different work or stick around enjoying their time with their families until the money runs out and they're forced to start the cycle all over again.

My thesis restated is not that there aren't hot nicas in Nicaragua, nor that there are nicas of various quality levels who engage in prostitution locally but that most of the TRULY hot nicas as long as they're going to be prostituting themselves to begin with want to at least get top dollar for it and where they can get top dollar is in most cases in neighboring CR.
In his 10/5/06 posting herein, King of Sluts states … "When I am in Central or South America, I want girls who are perfect tens, not below a ten. But the tens in Managua are expensive, I am not talking about any type of ass. I want tens, perfect models." With this comment in mind, I direct you to my 10/10 posting on the Managua thread. There you will find the perfect 10 in Nicaragua.KOS, whether he intended to or not, backed me up. "the tens in Managua are expensive". Sure, some of the hotter Nica providers stick it out in Managua IF they can still make top dollar. Your example hardly does anything to sway me from my initial argument. I won't get into the debate of whether Ashanty is a 10 or not. If she isn't, then she certainly is way up there. But what you failed to mention here is that, yes she can be found in Managua, but it is at one of the severely overpriced clubs like Hollywood where one could easily blow over $100 in less than a half hour with a chica. Sure you MIGHT be able to work something out for after hours but how much will you need to invest to score that connection and then how much less will your session really cost you?

If they can score that type of money at home, I'm sure most WILL stay home. But there are only so many clubs in that quality range and so many customers in Managua with the money to frequent them. Most chicas can't score that type of money in the local market and if they're anything above SW quality and if the earnings advantage is great enough they'll go whereever they can make the most money. My position is that given that the gringo mongers, who drive up the prices in the premium part of the market we're most interested in, mostly go to CR, that is where the greatest earnings potential is for most any Nica who isn't a skank and that is where most (though certainly not all) will go (if only for an earning season between extended vacations from the trade back home). IMHO, a better argument could made for your side that while earnings may be better for the chicas in CR, the VALUES from the monger perspective could be found where there are fewer of us driving up prices, such as in Nicaragua. But I wouldn't want to advertise that in a forum where it could be read by those self-same monger newbies who have read a little about CR and are flocking there with their $100 bills and driving up prices UNLESS you want the same thing to happen to Nicaragua.

[Dodger Bulldog]

The thing I have heard though is that the prices are actually a little cheaper in Nicaragua and that because the better looking girls can command higher prices where monger traffic is higher (such as in CR) that is why you see so many of them going there, rather than the other way around.

That leaves the ones that serve more the local market in Nicaragua and they tend to not be as good looking. Again, this is all hearsay since I haven't actually been there myself.
This all started when I questioned that most of the better looking Nicas leave the country to work elsewhere. Especially to the point that this supposed exodus of hot Nicas is the reason for lower prices in Nicaragua.

The initial post hypothesized that one who visits Nicaragua will find chicas who "tend not to be as good looking." But your last post dated 10/20 said "I NEVER said there weren't hot nicas in Nicaragua."

I am glad we agree here. I felt the original post left a different impression for fellow mongers, and that is why I responded in the first place.

And yes, to clarify the point, I stated the obvious that there are more hot Nicas in Nicaragua than anywhere else. Again, I am glad that from your latest post it became clear that we also are in agreement on this.

The lower prices exist in Nicaragua because of the conditions of the local economy and the supply/demand equation, not because of any lack of "better looking girls."

The bottom line is that no monger should have any doubt that he can find incredibly hot and wonderful chicas available in Nicaragua!

Now, I suppose we are all guilty of beating this issue into the ground, including yours truly...

DB

[Prolijo]

This all started when I questioned that most of the better looking Nicas leave the country to work elsewhere.No, if that is what I suggested, what I meant was that the better looking Nicas who work the sex trade will go where they can make much better money. If they're not working the sex trade they have no more reason to leave than anyone else.
Especially to the point that this supposed exodus of hot Nicas is the reason for lower prices in Nicaragua.Again, no, the lower prices in Nicaragua is the reason for the "exodus" and NOT the other way around. If anything any major exodus of hot chicas from Nicaragua would reduce the local supply, and drive UP the local prices to the point where the price for super hot chicas starts to equalize or at least reduce the possible motivation for them to go elsewhere (ceteris parabus).
The initial post hypothesized that one who visits Nicaragua will find chicas who "tend not to be as good looking." But your last post dated 10/20 said "I NEVER said there weren't hot nicas in Nicaragua."

I am glad we agree here. I felt the original post left a different impression for fellow mongers, and that is why I responded in the first place.Again, reread my initial post and do not selectively quote me. The very same sentence that said "tend to not be as good looking" started out referring to those that serve "the local market" ie meaning working girls and not just any girl on the street or high-end (read overpriced) club.
And yes, to clarify the point, I stated the obvious that there are more hot Nicas in Nicaragua than anywhere else. Again, I am glad that from your latest post it became clear that we also are in agreement on this.If you look back over my posts, I think you'll find that I never suggested otherwise but if you felt this point needed clarifying that is fine with me.
The lower prices exist in Nicaragua because of the conditions of the local economy and the supply/demand equation, not because of any lack of "better looking girls."Something else we both agree on and something I thought I was saying all along. The main unresolved difference between our positions is that though there may be no lack of good looking chicas in Nicaragua I feel there is some question as to the number of those better looking ones that go into the business AND stay to practice it in Nicaragua if they can make so much better money in neighboring CR.
The bottom line is that no monger should have any doubt that he can find incredibly hot and wonderful chicas available in Nicaragua!Find them? Yes. Available in the sense one can find those especially hot ones working the trade for prices that much significantly cheaper than CR? I'm not so sure.
Now, I suppose we are all guilty of beating this issue into the ground, including yours truly... DBYet another matter of agreement. I don't mind at all if we ultimately disagree. I do mind if you misinterpret my position and misstate my remarks. If you want to continue this debate it might be better to take it to PM rather than subject everyone else to any more of it, but I for one have posted all I feel I need to in this thread.

[Dodger Bulldog]

I guess I need to make it explicitly clear that every comment I have been making is specifically in reference to the professional sex workers in Nicaragua, which negates almost every point from the previous post.

Of course opinions are always subjective. However, I do base my observations on how incredibly hot the Nica (sex workers) are in Nicaragua upon an actual visit to Managua. In addition, I can also point to Noguera's whole-hearted endorsement of the Nicas, knowing that he lived there for many years.

So anyone considering a trip to Nicaragua who is looking for guidance from this discussion can choose to rely on our impressions based on first hand experience, or on the "hearsay" from someone who admittedly has never been there.


That leaves the ones that serve more the local market in Nicaragua and they tend to not be as good looking. Again, this is all hearsay since I haven't actually been there myself.

[King of Sluts]

This post is a luke warm fight between Dodger and Chase, I am kind of interested to see who ends up winning this war. But, remember gentleman, we are here to post valid information on where to find the hoes. Chase, give us some ideas of where to find the tens in Managua, do not be so selfish with your hidden secrets.

[Dodger Bulldog]

KOS,

There is no "fight" at all between Chase and me. That is why the tenor of both of our postings has been conversational and reasonable.

Chase is one of the good guys. His posts are intelligent, articulate, and insightful. I enjoy reading them.

I respect Chase's point of view. I learn from him.

Hell, I don't agree with my on mother half the time, but I love her to death.

So just because Chase and I have a different take on Nicaragua doesn't mean that there is any animosity between us whatsoever.

DB

[Prolijo]

This post is a luke warm fight between Dodger and Chase, I am kind of interested to see who ends up winning this war. But, remember gentleman, we are here to post valid information on where to find the hoes. Chase, give us some ideas of where to find the tens in Managua, do not be so selfish with your hidden secrets.KOS,
Are you trying to stir up trouble? I said I've said enough on this subject and while I could respond to DB's latest post I see no point. As for where to find the 10's, I think you're a little confused too. You'll have to ask HIM where you can find the tens in Managua since he's been the one arguing that side of the debate and not me. I've been saying any 10's in Managua, and I think we all agree now we're talking the "working" ones here, are fewer and farther between and when you do find them are not much cheaper than CR if at all. Dodger disagrees and that is fine with me. Let's just leave it at that since no one is really bringing anything new to this old debate at this point anyway. I'd still be happy to sit down and have a drink with him any time.

[King of Sluts]

What I am trying to get to the bottom is if it is worth visiting Managua for hotties. I mean, if the tens are so expensive in Managua, why not just go to Costa Rica and get them for a fraction of the price. Managua might be a waste of time for everyone, not sure. But I have heard that the hot nicas in Nicararugua are expensive, does not make sense because it is a true true thirld world country. Panama and Costa are also third world, but really are on the move towards first world countries. Perfect tens in Managua should be no more than 30 dollars a hour for this shiithole managua. My friends visited Managua and said it was a dump.

KOS

[Noguera]

Is there any way we can move this discussion to the Managua board. Seriously ... I think it is a great debate.

KOS ... you are not going to find 10's in Managua at $30. However, you are not going to find 10's in CR for $30 as well! Believe what you like ... but it ain't going to happen! A 10 at the Sportsmens can maybe be negotiated down to $70-$80 ... depending upon the mood she is in. A 10 at the Blue Marlin ...... well, best of luck landing her for under $100. It can be done, but you had better catch her at the right time, speak pretty decent spanish, and really be charming yourself. I mean a real 10 here. Not one that you are so drunk your definition of a 10 will not match anyone else's sober!

You are not going to find a 10 on the street in Managua. You are probably only going to find one at Hollywood, Elite, or Vale Todo. Then ... my guess is you can get her for $50 the following afternoon at your hotel. However, you can't be a dick to her in the Club the night before. You had better be charming or you aren't going to land the 10 at all. You don't have to spend $50-$80 on drinks the night before to land her the following afternoon. Maybe 20-30 minutes, be pleasant and respectful to her. Make her laugh, and then get down to negotiations for the following afternoon. This is not difficult in Managua for any 8-10 rated girl.

Let's keep this up and switch it over to the Managua thread.

[Dodger Bulldog]

You are probably only going to find one at Hollywood, Elite, or Vale Todo. Then ... my guess is you can get her for $50 the following afternoon at your hotel.
The Great and Mighty Oz (Noguera) has spoken! And you can take what he says to the bank.

I'm glad that he answered your question, far better than I ever could, because I was struggling with what I should say.

I know my first response, which Noguera addressed perfectly, is that you aren't going to find a "perfect ten" anywhere for $30.

If you are going to find one at all.

Because, really, what the hell is a perfect ten, anyway?

There sure were a whole lot of times that I was absolutely thrilled to nail a particular woman at the time, but when I look back at her photos a few months later, I wonder what the big deal was.

I think that just goes to show how much the personality, the conversation, the rapport, the laughter, the lighting, the time of night, the amount of alcohol, my own level of horniness, her performance, and a million other factors (other than just looks) can all play into the matter.

And if I can't even be consistent within my own rating of the chicas, how in the world can I expect that any "10" or a "9" or even an "8," in my opinion, would be just as appealing to anyone else?

And that is a very good thing!

Because if we all craved the exact same chica, only men named Gates or Buffet or Trump could ever afford her. Certainly not a single one of us...

Suffice it to say that if you go to Managua and can't find plenty of smoking hot Nicas to rock your world, you're just not a red-blooded America monger.

DB

[King of Sluts]

Costa Rica really is a great country, I mean it is pretty cool compared to most countries. The women are relatively cheap for the prices that they charge in comparison to other countries in south and central america. Costa Rica still gets the two thumbs up. Also, did any of you guys recognize that the immigration line for Nicaragua in San Jose, Costa Rica. The line for immigration was huge for the nicos/nicas to stand in line in downtown san jose, pretty close to the del rey area. I was surprised.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

I like those Nicas, they really know their job and the do the best to satisfy us mongers. Those Nicas are real hot little spinners, it is too bad the costa chicas are so americanized and not so enthusiastic like them Nicas.

I guess the Costa Rica chicks do not need the money like the Nicas. It is amazing what money does to people.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Oasis is the best, Elite is over priced for the quality. Blue marlin sucks my balls when compared to the other places in south america. Fantasy is just as good as Zona Blue. Not sure about quality.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Any news on Zona Blue, Fantasy, both on the same street.

All you guys like to take all the information in, but give no updates.

Kos

[King of Sluts]

Oasis is the best in the city, Oasis, go to Oasis. 20 dollars for a little hottie that are spinners. Go to oasis.

KOS

[Noguera]

Everyone always raves about Oasis and its great pricing and selection of hotties. Well … I have been to SJO probably a dozen times over the past year and never taken the time to go see Oasis. Last week I drove over to check it out. It is in a decent neighborhood, a clean building, the waiting area is clean and modern. Only 4 girls available at noon'ish, none of which were all that great. I picked Rosanna because she had these incredibly long legs, and we headed to a room. She proceeded to inform me that I got one pop, no DATY, bj w/ condom, then I saw they only have naugahyde massage tables, but she had a nice body and cute face so I gave her the 10,000 colones for 30 minutes. As she left to pay the madam I lit-up a smoke and when she returned you would have thought I was radioactive. Smoking is banned and they made me take it outside into the hallway. A ***** house that doesn't allow smoking? Any way, the sex was less than mediocre … at best, a half-assed blow job, bit of mish, if I even thought about trying to steal a kiss Rosanna went ballistic. There was maybe 5 minutes of OK sex when she climbed on top. For a moment there I thought she actually was feeling something while grinding on top. Any way, next thing I know she says time is up and I look to see I had only been in the room for 20 minutes. Why argue.

Worst experience ever in SJO. I think it might have been Rosanna that was bad, rather than Oasis, but I will probably never go back. Guys … don't assume that Oasis will be the cheap fuck to end all fucks. It was a totally wasted $20.

[King of Sluts]

Noguera,

I am surprised that you have had such a bad experience. That is not good. I have always had a great experince their. It must have been the girl that you picked. Also when I was their last, I found that the price was 12, 000 for one hour. I got two bangs in on the whooore for 24 dollars. She was a little spinner that had a skinny body with black hair. She was hot. She was short, but sucked me like no tommorrow.

KOS

[Noguera]

Well ... OK, KOS ... I think you may be correct that it was just Rosanna. What was the name of the little spinner you were with? I will just have to go back to Oasis on my next trip and "take one for the team"! I don't want to, but for research purposes I will see if there is better pussy to be had! What is a better time to visit Oasis than at noon?

[Dodger Bulldog]

I will just have to go back to Oasis on my next trip and "take one for the team"! I don't want to, but for research purposes I will see if there is better pussy to be had!TGAM Nog,

You're such a selfless team player. That's why I love you, man!

In a couple weeks I am going to force myself to go to Bogota and take on as many Colombianas as I can. For the good of the team, you know.

Just for the good of the team...

DB

[King of Sluts]

DB,

You are hilarious, "take on as many colombians as possible", I love it. The Colombians are cheap in Bogota, so it is great for that, but make sure you speak spanish. Costa Rica is perfect for the non-spanish speaker, most ticas and ticos speak english.

Kos

[Noguera]

Thanks Dodge.
I just die laughing everytime you use "TGAM".
And, isn't KOS just so cute you want to pinch his cheek? Imagine giving Colombian advice to you ... the master! I would kill to be howling with you in Colombia. For just one young lady ... not the 20 you will do ... but just for one ... tell her your real name is TGAM Nog!

[King of Sluts]

Doder Buldog and Noguera are pretty cool guys. Way to pop all those hoes, they are good when they are young. Dodger, lets here about those Rollas you were to pop when you hit Colombia.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Just giving a shout out to all teh mongers here, hope all is going well with the ticas, nicas and colombianas.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Have not been to San Jose in a long long time, just like that place called Machu Picchu.

Good luck all you ***** bangers.

[King of Sluts]

You guys are slow on this board, how are those Nicas treating you, their twats are the best in Costa Rica, the ticas are not that bad, the nicas just are better at sex, more practice.

Keep the Costa Rica threads stronger.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Any good Nica reports boys, you retirees seem quiet here in ole Costa Rica.

Kos

[Member #2666]

You guys are slow on this board, how are those Nicas treating you, their twats are the best in Costa Rica, the ticas are not that bad, the nicas just are better at sex, more practice.

Keep the Costa Rica threads stronger.

KOS


I concur...the Costa Rica Threads are very slow..especially the foto section...but the Nicas are by far the hottest and wildest of the bunch

[Piper1]

I concur...the Costa Rica Threads are very slow..especially the foto section...Not too slow if you're here. ;)

[King of Sluts]

Those Nicas could suck a golf ball thru a 60 foot garden hose in five seconds and not think twice. I like those girls, they are hot, but their teeth tend to be really crooked, not bad if they do not smile, but good sex, definitely. I like the nicas because most blow you without condom, it is second nature for them, which is good. But always full service covered, who knows what streets they working at in managua.

Also, a good trick I picked up was to go walk by the IMMIGRATION line in San Jose, Costa Rica, there are always hundreds of nicas standing for their visa. The Immigration line is by some train tracks about a 15 minute walk from the del rey hotel, check it out, you can score some little hotties.

KOS checking in boys

[King of Sluts]

Any news on the Nicas guys?

[King of Sluts]

Yeah, it is true, I will most likely never return back to Costa Rica, maybe just to hit oasis and the ***** houses by the MERCED area. Merced area is dangerous at night. Not sure.

[King of Sluts]

Hey Blitz,

Give us the report on the immigration line, I used to hang out there to find some secret gems, I used to get numbers and bang them, good time, elimniate the middle man. No middle men get you the cheap prices.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

I give you guys the best information of leads, and you give no information. You guys are more selfish than a Colombian whooore always thinking about the family.

Blitzdog, what happen?

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Hey Blitz,

What happen?

[King of Sluts]

I have given you guys Costa Rica guys so many insights on this board, and or thru pm's, you guys give no information back at all.

I tell you to go to immigration in san jose, and pick up the hotties waiting in immigration for the nicas, no reports. Wtf some of you guys are so selfish, almost likes elversele, aka elverselfish

At least go to Oasis, great bargain, there was a little girl with black hair, gave a mean hummer, a porn star, BBBJ, she was good.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Ok, for english only speakers, stick with Cost rica, maybe Panama, but that all folks. You will have too many problems with the language in other countries.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

I am pounding the table on oasis, great place and price. I loved banging this skinny short girl with big tits, a tica. Not sure if she is still there, but she loved giving me BBBJ, loved it.

[King of Sluts]

You will find many of the girls that work at the Del Rey in the week, go to Jaco Beach for the weekend. Those little colombianas are always selling that ass, too funny.

[King of Sluts]

Anybody visited Oasis lately? Any little hotties? I used to love this little hottie that had black hair, did BBBJ, was great. Del Rey Hotel was always full of bear guzzling 300 pound american tourists, not cool. I do not like when the loud mouthed bear guzzling american tourist shows up.

Any body check out the immigration line for the Nicas, always good hunting ground! Check it out boys.

[King of Sluts]

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[King of Sluts]

Any body been scoping the immigration line for the Nicaragua girls? There are hidden gems their, check it out.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

I guess when no one replies about the immigration line, that means no one has looked. Ok, no problem, just trying to help out my fellow hunters.

[Wandering Man]

I will be at SL this coming Thursday for a week and want to hit the Immigration Line, my spanish is poor to non-existant. Where is the immigration line, (I understand it's near the railroad). I plan on hiring a driver listed on this site or recommended by SL to translate, a good plan?

[King of Sluts]

Wandering Man,

Yes, it is not to far from Del rey hotel, they will be out there in the afternoon, but remember, their will be pros mixed with in old ladies/ old men, so make sure you do not negotitate in a loud voice.

The line is right next to a train tracks, the tracks actually cut acroos the street, and the street has like an intersection, one way, it is like three streets all coming together, just aks any taxi. Last time I was in costa, theri must have been over 200 people waiting in line on a Friday afternoon.

Ask any taxi, not far from del rey though, or merced area. Happy hunting, and go get them little hot nicas.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Wandering Man,

Yes, it is not to far from Del rey hotel, they will be out there in the afternoon, but remember, their will be pros mixed with in old ladies/ old men, so make sure you do not negotitate in a loud voice.

The line is right next to a train tracks, the tracks actually cut acroos the street, and the street has like an intersection, one way, it is like three streets all coming together, just aks any taxi. Last time I was in costa, theri must have been over 200 people waiting in line on a Friday afternoon.

Ask any taxi, not far from del rey though, or merced area. Happy hunting, and go get them little hot nicas.

KOS

[Rzoll77]

The line KOS is referring to is the Nica embassy in barrio california. About a KM east on ave central of the DR.

There usually is a long line there but not lately. The women are not all nica because for a Tica to visit Nica she needs to get a visa ahead of time.

[N2Techno]

You got the knowledge how hard is it to find 2 chicks that can toke my pipe and swallow? I will be there Dec1st -5th. You think 2500 will be enough for my friend and I with the ladies?

[King of Sluts]

I had no idea that Ticas also had to wait in line to go to Nicaragua, kind of crazy. Rzoll77 has it right, he knows better than I do, but you will see three streets come together, with the train tracks, and then the line. You usually will see the long line, when I was there, I was like, who the heck is waiting in this long line and for what. Then my buddies explained to me what it was.

N2techno, oh yeah, as long as you have dollars, you can get anything for women. Check the del Rey, check the merced area in the day, go to the ho houses that are behind the Holiday Inn, they are all on the same street. Zona Blue and the others, not bad nicas workign there.

[King of Sluts]

N2 techno, go to Oasis during the day, many girls will smoke your pipe, also, check out elite at night, good place, but expensive.

[King of Sluts]

N2 Techo, I forgot to mention, if you go to the holiday inn at Escazu, there are sometimes girls working at the bar that is outside. Fridays and saturdays are good hunting times, mostly ticas. If not, stay in the area of Elite/ Oasis, or the merced area, the best places. Be careful of the area of merced, many lady boys, be careful.

[King of Sluts]

Nibs,

Go to Cartago, you can find the prices you want, and cartago is like old central america, not like the newer san jose. Cartago has a bunch of cheap restaurants, hotels, women etc. It is only like a 10 minute ride to San jose. There are no tall buildings or hotels, so it is like old central america.

Also, go to Oasis when you get into san jose, it is very cheap, and the girls are acutally hot. But please notice nibs, you will not be able to bang them for 2 dollars, you are going to have to crack open the wallet a little.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Oasis, Zona Blue, Fantasy, Elite, Del rey, I can recommend all for ya nibs, take a look, do not be shy, just go for it. Also, check out the immigration line, ok middleman. Please note, I termed that name for you, you cannot change that fact.

[King of Sluts]

Anybody hit the Immigration line? Boys need an update for all the mongers, anybony have the balls to venture out there? Or all you guys scared, where are the guys who will do anything? The thrill seekers, where are you boys?

[King of Sluts]

Oasis is by far the bet for value in Costa Rica, any guys have luck on the immigration line, I give you guys the reports but you selfish bastards do not give reports, lets here about the reports.

KOS

[King of Sluts]

Anybody checked out the chicks at the railroad tracks, the immigration line for the nicas. You guys are quiet.

[King of Sluts]

Del rey,

The streets by the Holiday Inn is good.

[King of Sluts]

Anybody have an update on the immigration line for the Nicas?

You guys are quiet here Costa Rica.

[Member #2666]

Anybody have an update on the immigration line for the Nicas?

You guys are quiet here Costa Rica.



Forgot all about it...I'll put it on my short list of new daytime places to visit

[King of Sluts]

Well put it on your list and let me know.

[King of Sluts]

I would say Costa Rica has one of the slowest threads in the Central America, but the highest pre-paid girls in th Central America, I do not get it, you guys shoudl be all over the place, but it is so slow here, no idea about you costa guys, I guess you guys are all over the hil retired with no energy.

[King of Sluts]

Anybody visit the immigration line, what about blue goose, del rey, and the others around the street fromt he holiday inn. The Nicas are good in costa, I liek them nicas.

[King of Sluts]

Nicas, well in my opinion are the hidden gem of costa rica.I like them Nicas, they do not speak engish and can really fucck, them nicas are gems, real cool girls.

[King of Sluts]

Anybody been to immigration line in San Jose for the Nicas?

[King of Sluts]

Zona Blue, also, Across the street from Machu Pichu and around the holiday inn are many casas, been awhile, but them nicas are good.

[Chitown Gino]

What is the immigration line.

[King of Sluts]

Sorry, I have not been to Costa rica for years, the immigration line is for the Nicas to work in costa rica, it s by the railroad tracks in san jose, close to the del rey hotel.

I am definitely out of the loop in costa rica, but i am sure it si the same.

[King of Sluts]

Zona Blue?

Nicas?

Good stuff!

[Wodada2001]

Can you pm me?

[King of Sluts]

See my review of Caracas in KOS in Venezuela.

Thanks KOS

[Mr Jetsetter]

See my review of Caracas in KOS in Venezuela.

Thanks KOSWhat is this post doing here? Actually, I'm having a hard time deciphering the reason why this thread is still in existence.

[King of Sluts]

Jetsetter,

Never count out the KOS, he knows everything. Go to Zona Blue and bang the nicas. The hottest girls in Costa rica are the nicas and colombians, trust me on that.

Ok, here is a hypothetical lesson to win a car in Costa Rica. A little hypothetical trickery from KOS. Ok, you rent a car (Toyota Prado / Landrunner) in San Jose with insurance, you have a fellow panamanian drive the car to the border of Costa Rica / Panama, you switch license plates from Costa Rica to Panama plates at the border, your friend uses a old rental contract from Budget rent a car in Panama. Your friend drives the car to a safe garage in Panama. Your friend hitchhikes back to the Costa Rica border. When he gets back to San Jose, you go to the police station to report the car stolen, and then take the police report to the rental agency, boom, you have a new car in Panama.

Remember, in Panama the passport will never be important if you have a panamanian friend, the police will just assume he is in country. Just a little tip from Kos. Please note, I did not do this, just a example. (LOL)

[NastyBoy]

Oasis Oasis Oasis, oh how do I miss banging a little hottie at Oasis for twenty four dollars. Costa Rica is cool, better than Panama, and sometimes I wish that I woul dhave lived in Costa Rica for many years, than Panama. Costa Rica is way more cool.

KosIt's been years, but I was down there recently. Oasis has definately died. Four chicas all look transgendered. Veronica's is still holding it's own and so is the old ZB. Scores is really the action place now. Beautiful Ticas there. Your reports and wisdom would be nice now.