Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[Giotto]

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An Evening at Livingston’s.

Finally I arrive back "home" with dusk falling around me and have a little soak before going down for dinner. I feel refreshed and the wonderful night air by the pool is enticing. With a nice stir fry and a crisp white wine to go with it, I linger and read a bit, soaking up the ambiance. As I am reading, I notice that things are starting to pick up in the sports bar, so I decide to take it easy, make it a "night at home" and wander in to see what the evening will bring.

Giotto was right in his post when he said he had a great mammasan. She really knows how to run the place! At some point in the evening, I was so impressed, I asked her how much to bar fine mammasan, but I am getting ahead of myself. After I looked around a bit and ordered a drink, she brought over a nice young lady I will call Princess (not her name) and suggested maybe she would like a drink and I was more than happy to oblige. We played a little pool (badly I am afraid) and then gave way to a contingent from a flight crew who were much better at pool, but they got their ass kicked by one of the ladies anyway. I must comment on the terrific atmosphere – particularly the elegance of the ladies. The way they shot pool in those tight black dresses was something to behold.
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SlimHoleDrill,

Thanks for your report - I nearly forgot to answer. I read it some days ago already.

I am not sure that I remember you talking to me - so many people are coming in for a small chat. And I would like to know who pricess is :), and which mamasan you talked to, we have now a mamasan and two assistents, but those assistents also call themselves "mamasan".

Quite unusual that you had a traffic jam when passing through the small roads of Soi 33 / Soi 39. Usually this is the shortest and fastest way to the airport in the morning - you obviously had bad luck. It is definitely not always like this.

Thanks for your long report. I hope you come back soon, and introduce yourself to me.


Giotto

[Giotto]

That really sucks man. I can't believe that some people(aside from being dishonest and basically thieves) don't realise/care that they are not only representing themselves but their country as well.

I think you should ask for advanced payment from the get go. If someone is planning on staying for say 1 week, they must pay the amount for that many days on the very first day, no exceptions. If they decide to leave before, they can get a refund, simple. Isn't that the simplest way to avoid the above mentioned problem or am I missing something?Blood Red,

We usually do that, at least a deposit for some days when the customer has no credit card. But we should use the standard procedure of hotels, reserving amounts on credit cards. The process should be like this, but obviously everything went wrong in this cases.

But it was difficult to deal with this cases, the customers were known, and their actions were well prepared and planned. Of course our management must ask itself what went wrong in this cases, to avoid such a problem for the future. We are really talking about a major damage here.

That is the bad news. The good news is that this are the first cases since we opened the hotel (besides one guest in the very beginning which we made leave after a single day because we knew that we would get problems with him).

Many problems in the moment, but - better days to come :) .


Giotto

[SlimHoleDrill]

SlimHoleDrill,

Thanks for your report - I nearly forgot to answer. I read it some days ago already.

I am not sure that I remember you talking to me - so many people are coming in for a small chat. And I would like to know who pricess is :), and which mamasan you talked to, we have now a mamasan and two assistents, but those assistents also call themselves "mamasan".

Quite unusual that you had a traffic jam when passing through the small roads of Soi 33 / Soi 39. Usually this is the shortest and fastest way to the airport in the morning - you obviously had bad luck. It is definitely not always like this.

Thanks for your long report. I hope you come back soon, and introduce yourself to me.


GiottoGiotto,

I must admit I am not 100% clear on that evening.- I am sure you understand. I think you were mostly shooting pool, coming back to sip your drink and I mostly was talking with Guido and the Mrs. Anyway, it was a short time since I was just waiting fro "the change". The mamasan was older, fairly heavy and looked like the cheif. What is funny, when I asked to bar fine her, she took it totally seriously and quoted me prices. Only in Thailand.

And I don't rmember Princess' real name but I would love to have the chance to point her out in person. No such luck in the near future.

Sorry about your troubles, the risks of doing business. I hope you will get it sorted out.

Great place you have, I will stay there next time I am lucky enough to be in LOS.

[Giotto]

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Sorry about your troubles, the risks of doing business. I hope you will get it sorted out.

Great place you have, I will stay there next time I am lucky enough to be in LOS.SlimHoleDrill,

You obviously talked to our Mamasan Nui. Yes, I think she is doing a good job with the girls. And who needs to know the name of your princess - she is your princess :) !

Thanks, and come back once you return to Bangkok.


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Heard a rumour about a "private party" on Oct 28 at the Lodge?
Is that correct? Does it affect the sports bar at all?
Is the swimming pool party on that night?

[M P Lurker]

I notice that Mr. And Mrs. G are now in the bar at the next table so I feel I should pay my respects and complements.
Does Giotto still flirt with other giirls in the bar these days as much as he used to, or are the pressures getting to him?

[Giotto]

Heard a rumour about a "private party" on Oct 28 at the Lodge?
Is that correct? Does it affect the sports bar at all?
Is the swimming pool party on that night?Mick Licker,

If the 28. Oct. 2007 is a Saturday - yes, then there will be a Swimming Pool Party!

I did not hear about a "private party" up to now, but of course, I don't need to know everything ... :) . If you intend to participate we will prepare the stage for you, and your leather "costume" for the strip show. Just let me know.


Giotto

[Giotto]

Does Giotto still flirt with other giirls in the bar these days as much as he used to, or are the pressures getting to him?Mick Licker,

What the hell ... me, flirting with other girls? I never ever did something like that ... :)

[Damned, man, this is private talking, PLEASE, think about my dick, knifes, sliced to pieces, the ducks ... PLEASE]


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Mick Licker,

What the hell ... me, flirting with other girls? I never ever did something like that ... :)

[Damned, man, this is private talking, PLEASE, think about my dick, knifes, sliced to pieces, the ducks ... PLEASE]


Giotto
Yeh, flirting is damed dangerous these days. I wouldn't dare flirt with other girls in the sports bar with Miss J watching, and she isn't even my GF. The most I could get away with, was buying B52s for Mrs G #1.

I can't take my GF to the sports bar for fear of those f-ing ducks.

[Eu Contractor]

hey g,
i tried to quote your report on 09-02-07 at 2305 however the system said i had too many images or something. if you want background, please refer there.

thanks for the hospitality and kind words of encouragement. some of us do have one small shred of moral fiber. it just isn't in me to go with a 19 year old civilian....(and i tried everything to rationalize it ;) )
as far as prison goes, i think i am in the clear but will find out, hopefully, tomorrow. i'll let you know how it ends up. i may be back sooner than later so we need to discuss my 75% discount with net 120 day terms. if i come soon i will be on a budget due to unemployment.
i did look for you after "packing" my bags with lek. she made sure things were properly folded and packed in the right places :)
the m16's have been acquired however we need to decide on the accessories ie: m4 vs m16, night vision, bi-pods, grenade launchers, silencers etc.
my friend, with the conspiracy theories is a trip. he had a very interesting point of view to say the least.

my stay was great as usual however you need to sort out the satellite tv. trying to watch a movie was a pain in the ass. i must admit that i have a new appreciation for your wireless internet. the speed here is really shit.
btw it isn't very nice to confuse the guests by putting the hot water on the right and cold on the left. is that because you drive on the wrong side of the road too? ;)
my only other concern is with my broken toes. stumbling into the three level bathroom drunk in the middle of the night was painful. you need to install handicap ramps for us old blind drunk guys.

report on the mp's
rainbow oily massage was very good. although my lady was not a 10, she was very thorough and the whole experience quite enjoyable.
akane has a nice program. i went twice. the first time was quite good, second time ok.
szanka was great as always. even without a happy ending i would go just for the scrub / salt / massage. i must say this time the girl indicated all services were available if i wanted (to pay). that was a new one for me.
darlings was quite nice. they seem to have a program they follow, or try to. i think i confused the girl when i wanted fs in the tub rather than the bed.

soi cowboy
suzy wongs was the same as i remember. lesbian show, dancers with pasties, yada yada. can be some fun with the girls. i didn't pull one however my friend did and said she was great. i was tempted to pull the mamasan until i noticed her freakishly big hands ;) whoops!
bacarat across the street was fun. they have a stage on the first level with dancers that rotate into the crowd from time to time. if you look up, there is a glass stage on the second floor where you can admire the girls dressed in school girl outfits from below. sure beats putting mirrors on your shoes :)

oh and btw, tell mrs. g. i let her win that pool game so she owes me 12k baht for a round of drinks. i'll collect next time.

see you soon.
eu

[SlimHoleDrill]

Mick Licker,

What the hell ... me, flirting with other girls? I never ever did something like that ...

Giotto

Of course not. no flirting, just a serious game of pool. And being subjected to this sort of thing nightly, I suspect our friend Giotto may have become, shall we say, hardened to it.

[ArchieLeach]

EU Contractor,

As proprietor of Archie's Ammo Hut, I would humbly like to offer my services for all your weapons purchase needs. I offer a 25% ISG discount. No conspiracy is too small or revolution too big, we service all your delusional needs with a smile.

My qualifications you ask? I'm American. We have a long history of arming anyone and everyone for the right price. And where I'm from you're practically issued a handgun at birth.

I've always wanted to be an international arms dealer. It's just that whole potential Federal Crimes thing that has prevented it so far. But I can aspire, can't I?

Note to FBI: I'm totally kidding in case your little brains couldn't perceive that.

On an unrelated note: Giotto I'm looking forward to coming next month and meeting you. It will be an honor.

[Giotto]

hey g,
...
thanks for the hospitality and kind words of encouragement. some of us do have one small shred of moral fiber. it just isn't in me to go with a 19 year old civilian....(and i tried everything to rationalize it ;) )
as far as prison goes, i think i am in the clear but will find out, hopefully, tomorrow. i'll let you know how it ends up. i may be back sooner than later so we need to discuss my 75% discount with net 120 day terms. if i come soon i will be on a budget due to unemployment.
i did look for you after "packing" my bags with lek. she made sure things were properly folded and packed in the right places :)
the m16's have been acquired however we need to decide on the accessories ie: m4 vs m16, night vision, bi-pods, grenade launchers, silencers etc.
my friend, with the conspiracy theories is a trip. he had a very interesting point of view to say the least.

my stay was great as usual however you need to sort out the satellite tv. trying to watch a movie was a pain in the ass. i must admit that i have a new appreciation for your wireless internet. the speed here is really shit.
btw it isn't very nice to confuse the guests by putting the hot water on the right and cold on the left. is that because you drive on the wrong side of the road too? ;)
my only other concern is with my broken toes. stumbling into the three level bathroom drunk in the middle of the night was painful. you need to install handicap ramps for us old blind drunk guys.
...eu contractor,

good to hear from you, thanks for your report. surprisingly you wrote a report this time ... not only taking advantage of the isg discount without delivering (bestard!!!).

i did not know that they have internet there in the prisons, luxirious!!! :) . anyway, after you left i had some dates with your 19 year old "old english" friend, and she instructed me to tell you that she does not miss you so much any more. she is fine now :).

as for your return - just bring your m-16, and i will hire you as new security guard, and your unemployment is over. it is that easy, discount stay in peep inn included.

you are correct with this damned satellite system, some channels hang in between for 30 secs. or so, and especially then when it gets interesting, movie channels. haven't found a thai comany yet which could fix that problem. but i have a quotation here for a complete new satellite system, via internet, a channel server ... will that work? i am not sure.

and your toes - what can i do, next time you will get a room in the new building, and there we built everything on one level. only a very small step between room and bathroom - that will hopefully do for an "old blind drunk guy" like you.

let me know what is going on, and in the worst case scenario - just buy a ticket and come back, we will sort it out here.


giotto

[Giotto]

Of course not. no flirting, just a serious game of pool. And being subjected to this sort of thing nightly, I suspect our friend Giotto may have become, shall we say, hardened to it.SlimHoleDrill,

"Hard-oned" :) ?


Giotto

[Eu Contractor]

eu contractor,

good to hear from you, thanks for your report. surprisingly you wrote a report this time ... not only taking advantage of the isg discount without delivering (bestard!!!).

i did not know that they have internet there in the prisons, luxirious!!! :) . anyway, after you left i had some dates with your 19 year old "old english" friend, and she instructed me to tell you that she does not miss you so much any more. she is fine now :).

as for your return - just bring your m-16, and i will hire you as new security guard, and your unemployment is over. it is that easy, discount stay in peep inn included.

let me know what is going on, and in the worst case scenario - just buy a ticket and come back, we will sort it out here.


giotto

i must say that things here in guantanamo are quite civilized. internet, porn, ladies, etc.
so how was the 19 year old. did you remember to take your viagra? a man of your age should be careful not to over exert yourself.
what discount are you referring to? i believe they actually charged me extra for you hanging out with me :)
i have shipped the m-16 via fedex to you personally. hold it until i arrive.
eu

[M P Lurker]

Mick Licker,
What the hell ... me, flirting with other girls? I never ever did something like that ... :)
[Damned, man, this is private talking, PLEASE, think about my dick, knifes, sliced to pieces, the ducks ... PLEASE]
Giotto
I met a man with several wives,
He told the forum it can change our lives,
"Pieces of dick" begged the ducks,
"Yes, Dicks in pieces" gleamed the knives,
"Fucks, Ducks, Dicks and Knives",
The haunted dreams of a man with how many wives???

[Member #3428]

Giotto, as always the food was excellent, was sorry couldn’t stay with you again but atleast we got over there to eat a few times. And it was nice talking with you and Guido and such, hope you got something from that hard drive, but I forgot to drop off a poster to you. Will drop it next trip in a few weeks, you can hang it in the bar, I think the guy’s will enjoy it, if you’re willing to post it in public. That is if I remember to bring it over I’m getting old and forgetful.

But…. the girl I was with, she might not have said much during the meal but she speaks english and sure did pick up on some of your comments especially the part about never marry a thai girl. I swear thai girls can cry on demand, as soon as we hit the cab the tears and questions started to flow.

[Giotto]

I must say that things here in Guantanamo are quite civilized. Internet, porn, ladies, etc.
So how was the 19 year old. Did you remember to take your Viagra? A man of your age should be careful not to over exert yourself.
What discount are you referring to? I believe they actually charged me extra for you hanging out with me :)
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Eu Contractor,

Internet, Porn, Ladies - sounds good for me, why don't you stay there? Good solution for everybody, I don't have to suffer, and the 19 year old lady can get over her disappointment...

Good to hear that our staff added the "Consultancy Service Charge" to your bill. They usually forget that :) .

BESTARD!!!


Giotto

[Bluegreen]

Livingstones Lodge, Sept '07
A boutique hotel 'resort' tucked away behind Soi33, no more than a 10 minute stroll or (max) 50Baht taxi ride from all the action you could want. Marvellous rooms (better beds & bathrooms than some 5-star hotels I've been to, a very clean & simple aesthetic, and some really nice touches). And it feels classy but not stuffy - it's quiet, with lots of extremely polite & friendly staff. The pool looks inviting, but it's only about 12 inches from the bar/restaurant tables and I'm not sure how I feel about being probably the only swimmer; floating about like an albino hippopotamus while the attentive staff keep an eye on me, or while other guests are trying to enjoy a bite to eat. On that note, the food is excellent; I try to 'go native' & eat Thai food as much as possible anyway, but the chef really knows his way around eggs & bacon too. Several times I was simply too lazy to try and find another restaurant nearly as good, and ate at the hotel instead.

The Sports Bar.

This is where you'll be treated like a King every night. Livingstones has a roster of maybe 15-20 girls (probably more), with something for everyone. Entering the bar on my first night here, it was a little bewildering to walk into all of them greeting me at the door; but then you are shown to a table and can have as quiet & relaxing a time as you like. I get rather bored of hearing 60's/70's ballads everywhere I go in Thailand but the bar music varies a lot which is great. Giotto even had a brief Mendelsson interlude one night, followed by 'Ave Maria', which I also thoroughly enjoyed - although we were in a minority of two! Coming into the bar, I noticed that one or two girls automatically come over to meet you, and to be honest I don't know if I like this or not. As a shy/polite sort I was quite happy to get to know the girl who had 'chosen' me, but after a few days at the hotel (having finally had a chance to have a good look around & meet some of the other girls) I did find I'd fallen into the inevitable trap of wanting to barfine other girls but not wanting to hurt #1's feelings. Fortunately the obvious signs of what was going on attracted the Mrs.Giotto / Mamasan's attention, and she was swift & effective in smoothing out the situation - Giotto is not only an extremely knowledgeable & helpful host, he is also a very lucky man. Not all of the bar girls are 'bar fineable' (a couple are Mamasans and/or normal staff) and I wish I'd known beforehand; tacitly announcing to the prettiest girl in the room that you'd like to take her to bed - and getting turned down - does make you feel a bit embarrassed. In the end I bar fined 3 Livingstones girls in the week I was there and had a fantastic time with every one. They are all passable/good at pool too, which I really enjoy. I made a bit of an effort to get out to other (cheaper) bars/girls/parlours but as with the food, when it's this good quality & right on your doorstep you really have to justify going anywhere else.

I had such a good time that after a quick look at Pattaya/Jomtien I'm back at Livingstones for another week, which is really the best recommendation I can give. It's not the cheapest option, but I'll take steak over hamburger most days of the week.

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[Giotto]

I met a man with several wives,
He told the forum it can change our lives,
"Pieces of dick" begged the ducks,
"Yes, Dicks in pieces" gleamed the knives,
"Fucks, Ducks, Dicks and Knives",
The haunted dreams of a man with how many wives???Mick Licker,

Thanks, BESTARD, I will make sure, that your girlfriend is waiting in your room, when you come back from the Sports Lounge - together with Ms. J.

A set of butcher knifes will be prepared. The ducks are hungry :) !

Giotto

[Giotto]

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But…. the girl I was with, she might not have said much during the meal but she speaks english and sure did pick up on some of your comments especially the part about never marry a thai girl. I swear thai girls can cry on demand, as soon as we hit the cab the tears and questions started to flow.Tansak KTV,

Thanks for visiting us, and especially for the song collection...

Yikes, I hope I did not cause any problems with my clear comments about the nature of [many] Thai women... Understood, I will shut up from now on. Sorry for that.


Giotto

[Member #3428]

Tansak KTV,

Thanks for visiting us, and especially for the song collection...

Yikes, I hope I did not cause any problems with my clear comments about the nature of [many] Thai women... Understood, I will shut up from now on. Sorry for that.


Giotto


Hope you got something out of the collection. I have a few more new ones I'll bring in a month or so, but those I can put on disc.

No worries on the comment. I'm getting the midnight and 4 am calls from her now and she wants the old meet the parents next trip and such. Gotta do something about this one. She's damn good at crying on demand.

[Brain666]

Miss J - Sports Lounge - got competition from Miss S - Brazil

Hi guys,

Just issued my first ever report in the Sao Paulo section.
Why I talk about it in this thread?

A special reason.
I met a perfect 10 (my specification) in Sao Paulo.
This Brazilian is almost shaped like my favourite Asian body style. Can’t believe that this is beatable.

here are the links:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646072&postcount=1086

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646074&postcount=1087

She comes close (better to say beats) my still favourite Miss J from the sports bar in the body composition as I like it and as I fall for it. The reason why I barfined Miss J so much last time.

I guess it will be also Mick Lickers taste. Mick, please confirm. You don't like big butts either do you?

For Old Thaihand she may look too much Isaan probably-
But I don't care Isaan or Brazil, bodstyle beats skin colour.

Giotto:
Don't tell Miss J about my extra adventure in South America. I still will continue with her when I will be back in the sports lounge. You know she can be very jealous. Her advantage: Not only body language, but also English is available.

Oh my god,
now I have to study Portuguese and Thai language.
Then have to turn Moslem to merry Miss J and Miss S.

Regards

Brain666

PS: oh shit: have to delete any evidence regarding Miss J and Miss S . Spouse will be in town for 6 weeks. Checkmating myself

[Member 8000]

After reading the Forum for a long time and reading up on Livingstone's Lodge, I was happy to finally have the opportunity to visit and experience it for myself. I am very glad I did.

Before I forget, Guido, your wine list is excellent! For all the readers on here, I know it is Thailand, but forget the Thai food for a day and order the Giotto's Tenderloin. It was one of the finest meals I have enjoyed, especially with the wine...

On to the other meat and potatoes. I reserved Junior Suite's for both myself and my friend and the rooms were nice sized and the beds were wonderful! The location of the lodge is excellent as it is close to Soi Cowboy, Starbucks, Banks, the BTS Phat Phroeng station, etc... From here it is really easy to get around.

I agree with Bluegreen's report that the women are wonderful and the Mamasan in the Sportsbar is great. We called her Hot Mamma and she seemed pleased with that.

There were several very nice girls there all three nights, but there were two that really caught my eye, Aye and Neuone (excuse my spelling).

Both girls were beautiful but unfortunatley I was only able to sample the talent once. The first night we had girls that accompanied us from Pattaya, the second night I Barfined Aye for ST and the third night I was too exhausted and had a 7:00 am flight for the states, so I went to bed alone... I still regret that decision, sorry Mamasan.

Tansak KTV, You are correct, I believe Thai women are trained from an early age to cry on demand, my girl from Pattaya cried every 5 minutes for an hour before she finally left in a cab.

Aye (from the sports lounge) was great, very inteligent and had the body of a cat. I don't think I could have asked for anything more. When she had worn me out, she felt it was too early to leave, so she spent the last 15 minutes or so giving me a wonderful massage to help put me to sleep. I believe I went to sleep smiling :-)

I would definatley reccomend the lodge and would highly recommend the imported steaks. They are wonderful. Apple (spell?) is a wonderful cook and thoroughly enjoys her job. I threatened Guido that I was going to steal her away in my suitcase to bring home!

My only wish is that I had gone to the Lodge first instead of at the end of a 11 day business trip as by the time I got there, I was exhausted. Still am.

I did not get a chance to meet Giotto but I received a lot of tips and words of advice from Guido. Thank you for the help! I hope your teeth are feeling better soon, by now you should have had the other side done.

I will post other reports in the appropriate threads.

Regards,

M8

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[Giotto]

Good news.

Today - suddenly and unexpectedly - the Pesky One showed up again at Livingstone's. She had left us after major problems in her behavior some weeks ago.

She has obviously found a new sponsor who sent some money to her - for building up a clothes shop. She brought all the shop with her today - a huge plastic suitcase filled with all sorts of clothes. And of course - the Livingstone's staff supported her and bought nearly all the shop. They are all still out there, changing, negotiating prices - big chaos. But fun.

Good to see her smiling again. The last weeks she worked here she was so serious - nearly same me. How can you get customers then as a working girl?

I think she will be back in the Sports Lounge soon. She will try that business, and after a few successful days she will find out that she cannot sell clothes to the same group of people again and again. Then it gets hard to find customers, then the real work starts - and then it is MUCH EASIER to come back and work in a bar.

Such is life :) .


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Miss J - Sports Lounge - got competition from Miss S - Brazil
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I guess it will be also Mick Lickers taste. Mick, please confirm. You don't like big butts either do you?

For Old Thaihand she may look too much Isaan probably-
But I don't care Isaan or Brazil, bodstyle beats skin colour.
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PS: oh shit: have to delete any evidence regarding Miss J and Miss S . Spouse will be in town for 6 weeks. Checkmating myself
How big is big?
I like butts not too small and not too large. :-)

Best to be like an apple or upside down heart. Then there must be some gap between the legs.
I do seem to go for slim girls like you do, however I like some good curves.
Miss S is a bit too skinny for my taste.
My GF has much bigger tits than both these girls but is also a bit too skinny at the moment. I have told her to eat lots of protein.

I too have to keep evidence well hidden.
I am currently interested in a tall young bar girl as well with a stunning figure called Noi. Will try to get some pics some day to prove it.

[Mick Ireland]

Hi,

I'm staying in Livingstones Hotel for a few days in a couple of weeks.

Can someone please tell me is the sports bar open all day?

What time do the girls start? Any tips would be great as this is my first visit.

Mick

[M P Lurker]

Hi,

I'm staying in Livingstones Hotel for a few days in a couple of weeks.

Can someone please tell me is the sports bar open all day?

What time do the girls start? Any tips would be great as this is my first visit.

Mick
Well the swimming pool closes for dinner around 6PM so I guess the sports sports bar girls will start turning up around this time. You can't miss them. However Giotto is best for the official story.

[Traveler1234]

Hi,

I'm staying in Livingstones Hotel for a few days in a couple of weeks.

Can someone please tell me is the sports bar open all day?

What time do the girls start? Any tips would be great as this is my first visit.

Mick

Pool in theory opened 24/7....I've been up swimming laps as early as 5 am. Unless G changed rulles, you can swim at dinner time - best to go bareass with one of the girls from sports bar :)

Bar opens around 5:30 pm or so...not sure of exact time. After closing, a/c turned off, etc. Girls start coming in around 5 pm to change, get make-up on, etc. If you're really interested in what they might look like when they awake in your bed the next day, hang out in the front and watch them come in around 5 pm...LOL

Tips - first time visit, bring a bottle of wine for the mammasan and tell her an ABC from USA made the suggestion....she'll understand.

Enjoy.

[TimTimGuy]

I had the very definite pleasure of staying at Livingstone’s Lodge twice in the past month, most recently two weeks ago. I haven’t read many reports that describe the "live-in" experience, so I thought a contribution to the Forum would be worthwhile.

I’m not a Bangkok resident, more’s the pity, but I travel through the LOS on occasion. The Forum reports made me curious about LL and I made a booking. Then I noticed that my arrival date would be a "pool party". Hmmmm. Mixed feelings. The idea of seeing lovely ladies from the Sport’s Bar in bikinis sounded terrific. But, while I’m in pretty decent condition, at my age my body no long produces the oooo’s and ahhhh’s, the shock and awe, it once did. WTF, I thought, the experience is not about my vanity, right? Right.

As it turned out, the party was about as much fun as I’ve had in public in a very long time. A show that included ladyboys in gowns went on a bit long for my taste, but the ladies loved it. If they’re happy, we benefit, right? When the katooeys were planting kisses on available men, I did snuggle extra close to the pretty young lady (#1) that had hooked up with me. A parade of bare breasted lovelies was followed by a very comical strip tease by one of the overweight male staff. The crowd was roaring with laughter. You can find another description of this event in Giotto’s Forum. During the madness, I connected with and I spent two enjoyable but not memorable nights with lady number 1.

I returned to Bangkok about 10 days later. This is where the story gets a bit complicated and Livintsone's gets my vote for greatest place to stay. I wanted to stay at the Lodge again on my second visit, but I was interested in exploring other "options" in the Sport’s Bar. I worried about being a butterfly in the same bar without adequate warning to my previous companion because I’ve had two bad experiences as a result of that sort of mis-communication, although I wasn’t in Thailand for either blow-up.

As luck would have it, I met lady #1 coming to work after I checked in for the second stay. I told her I would be interested in being with another lady that night. No particular reaction, but she made a point of stopping at my table later that night to tell me "sorry I cannot be with you but I have another friend". Sometimes these things just work out but I am pretty sure she told the mamasan to hook her up early with someone.

When I came into the bar, I explained my situation to the mamasan and I asked about a lady I saw on the first visit, but she was not in that night. She paired me with Lady #2. Nice choice. Legs that go all the way to a gorgeous butt. Tender, energetic, enthusiasic partner. In short, she is great. I spent two nights with her. Memorable nights.

But.- on the second night, about 9:30 during a heavy rain, I looked up from my pool game to see that I was the only guy in the bar. Gentlemen, this situation is a monger’s dream. Did I mention that all of the Sport’s Bar ladies are seriously pretty, some about an 11 on a 10 point scale? My mind was spinning with the possibilities. Then I thought, "I have a fantastic companion. What kind of guy am I? "

Before having to deal with that ugly reality, two guys walked in and they were followed by several others in rapid succession. Soon the bar was jumping. Hell, one guy even showed up with flowers for the mamasan.

I’m going back through the City of Angels in a few weeks. I intend to stay at Livingstone’s again. I really like lady #2, but I still have some intentions of asking about that lady I met on the first night. Or is that just tempting fate?

The bar fines at Livingstone’s are not cheap, starting at 1, 500 be early in the evening but declining through the evening according to some schedule I didn’t understand (or care about). The opening "ask" by the girls is 3000B LT. I paid 3k to lady number 2 and she was worth every baht, penny, or pound. Livingstone’s rooms are nice but not very spacious, starting at 1800 be. Upgrade gets a bathtub but not more floor space.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Giotto]

...The Sports Bar.

This is where you'll be treated like a King every night. Livingstones has a roster of maybe 15-20 girls (probably more), with something for everyone. Entering the bar on my first night here, it was a little bewildering to walk into all of them greeting me at the door; but then you are shown to a table and can have as quiet & relaxing a time as you like. I get rather bored of hearing 60's/70's ballads everywhere I go in Thailand but the bar music varies a lot which is great. Giotto even had a brief Mendelsson interlude one night, followed by 'Ave Maria', which I also thoroughly enjoyed - although we were in a minority of two! Coming into the bar, I noticed that one or two girls automatically come over to meet you, and to be honest I don't know if I like this or not. As a shy/polite sort I was quite happy to get to know the girl who had 'chosen' me, but after a few days at the hotel (having finally had a chance to have a good look around & meet some of the other girls) I did find I'd fallen into the inevitable trap of wanting to barfine other girls but not wanting to hurt #1's feelings. Fortunately the obvious signs of what was going on attracted the Mrs.Giotto / Mamasan's attention, and she was swift & effective in smoothing out the situation - Giotto is not only an extremely knowledgeable & helpful host, he is also a very lucky man. Not all of the bar girls are 'bar fineable' (a couple are Mamasans and/or normal staff) and I wish I'd known beforehand; tacitly announcing to the prettiest girl in the room that you'd like to take her to bed - and getting turned down - does make you feel a bit embarrassed.
...Bluegreen,

Thanks for staying with us, and for your report. You mentioned some of the problems we are permantly fighting with.

The swimming pool is open all day for our customers, but we ask our hotel guests not to use it during the dinner time, when the customers are sitting around it from around 7 pm to 10 pm and having their dinner. You mentioned the reasons.

The Sports Lounge - the number of girls varies, in the moment we more than 40 girls working for us, but not all of them are in the bar every day.

Music - Mendelsohn was not my idea, I think somebody picked the wrong playlist of our music computer. I liked it, though it is quite unusual for a bar - we sometimes have classic days and play classical music around the pool during dinner time. Usually on sundays.

Non-barfinable girls - you BESTARD had an eye on my wife - bad luck for you, huh :):):) ??? But the non-barfineable girls are another problem of the Sports Lounge - we want them to tell you that after the first drink, exactly for the reasons you mentioned. You also shall not pay for drinks all night, and afterwards get the info that this specific girl does not go out with customers. or that she is waiting (booking) for another man. We talk and talk and talk to the girls - and sometimes it works, sometimes not. Finally - they are bar girls and want to make money - if not with their bodies then even more with selling drinks. Very difficult to get this under control.

Hope to see you back here at Livingstone's - soon.


Giotto

[Duniawala]

But the non-barfineable girls are another problem of the Sports Lounge - we want them to tell you that after the first drink, ...............You also shall not pay for drinks all night, and afterwards get the info that this specific girl does not go out with customers. or that she is waiting (booking) for another man.
Giotto
Sorry Dr. G, I believe it should be stated upfront BEFORE the first drink. Better yet have them wear a badge or something similar to identify them as non-barfineable. This way I have the choice and not waste a good drink.

Your TQM Manager
The BESTARD Duniawala

[Giotto]

Sorry Dr. G, I believe it should be stated upfront BEFORE the first drink. Better yet have them wear a badge or something similar to identify them as non-barfineable. This way I have the choice and not waste a good drink.
...Sir,

No, that would be too much, that would never work. It is already difficult to make this model work.

Soi 33 is also different, in many bars are girls which don't go out with customers - wait, they go out, for dinner, disco etc. . We will try to make our model work, before we try to reach out for the stars.


Giotto

[1Ball]

So G, what protection can you offer the unsuspecting punter, who buys a girl a bunch of lady drinks, only to be turned down, due to the girl having a previous booking, is on her period, or whatever other reason she comes up with?
She could be made to pay for the drinks she consumed, that would put an end to that real fast. ;)

[NicFrenchy]

Guys,

I know that this might sound cheezy but, have you considered asking the mamasan before inviting the girl over?

Or maybe even better, don't be shy, before agreeing to buy the lady a drink, ask her if she would eventually be available that night, she will not lie to you about this and tell you straight if she is game or not.

[Duniawala]

Guys,

I know that this might sound cheezy but, have you considered asking the mamasan before inviting the girl over?

Or maybe even better, don't be shy, before agreeing to buy the lady a drink, ask her if she would eventually be available that night, she will not lie to you about this and tell you straight if she is game or not.
Better yet, let her buy her own drink, if she is not going to go out with you.

Last time, the Pesky one spent a long time with me. I had taken her out couple of times before, so I had similar expectations. Then in the last half hour she invited another girl to the table and then tried to convince me to take he instead, as she was booked. The other girl was pretty good looking too. But the expectations were changed. So I left them both, went to Thermae and found one of my regulars there.

I guess in one way, she saved me the big barfine. And I ended up with a tried and true TG.

[1Ball]

Frenchy, your suggestion is a good one, which is used every evening in the sports lounge. My question was in regards to the unsuspecting punter, you know, the newbie who has just arrived for the first time, and discovers Disneyland. He probably will not have the foresight to ask, before offering a drink. Then several hundred Baht later, he is left with no girl. There has to be a way to prevent that.
And as Duni said in his previous post, he was buying drinks for a girl he has taken out several times. There would be no doubt in his mind she was available. She made money under false pretenses, and Duni had to go get some take out instead. It wouldn't surprise me if Duni has striken the Pesky One off his list, so in the long run, she loses too.

[Duniawala]

Don't worry. The Pesky One has left the bar and is in the garment business.

[Giotto]

So G, what protection can you offer the unsuspecting punter, who buys a girl a bunch of lady drinks, only to be turned down, due to the girl having a previous booking, is on her period, or whatever other reason she comes up with?
She could be made to pay for the drinks she consumed, that would put an end to that real fast. ;)Mr. Vice President,

Protection - not that easy. But the idea to let the girls pay will be discussed with the mamasan - the question is whether this can work. In those cases the girl will then always insist that she told the customer, and due to bad English or loud music this was not understood.

It is a structural problem anyway - the girls make money with the drinks, but we ask them not to push for drinks - somehow not easy for the girls to follow that rule anyway. We will always have problems with this business policy.

It's a different thing with the pre-booking. If the girl is booked she MUST talk to the customer before he buys drinks.


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Last time, the Pesky one spent a long time with me. I had taken her out couple of times before, so I had similar expectations. Then in the last half hour she invited another girl to the table and then tried to convince me to take he instead, as she was booked. The other girl was pretty good looking too. But the expectations were changed. So I left them both, went to Thermae and found one of my regulars there.
...
Sir,

I remember that story quite well, and I am quite sure that you also remember that we fixed that [financial] issue next day.

After we had another complaint about her we took her out of the bar. Too many problems. She somehow had lost it, she did not want to serve in a bar any more. And she let everybody feel that.

The only positive side of this story is that she tried to bring another girl to you, after she obviously had decided not to go. We were as surprised about this as you were.

This are some typical problems of a bar. Nobody please believe that it is possible to organize a bar with ISO 900x SOPs.


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Frenchy, your suggestion is a good one, which is used every evening in the sports lounge. My question was in regards to the unsuspecting punter, you know, the newbie who has just arrived for the first time, and discovers Disneyland. He probably will not have the foresight to ask, before offering a drink. Then several hundred Baht later, he is left with no girl. There has to be a way to prevent that.
And as Duni said in his previous post, he was buying drinks for a girl he has taken out several times. There would be no doubt in his mind she was available. She made money under false pretenses, and Duni had to go get some take out instead. It wouldn't surprise me if Duni has striken the Pesky One off his list, so in the long run, she loses too.
Guys,

I must be a really weird one, but I am willing to buy drinks for really nice girls even if it is their period or they are not going to fuck me.

The B52's for Mrs. G, for example weren't wasted, although I think Giotto would have preferred that I didn't.

Sometimes I don't yet know if I want to fuck a girl and she might not yet know if she wants to fuck me. So the drinks are just for socializing or trying to make the girls more wayward (which can be essential for shy ones).

But always very important to not waste time and get the girl bar-fined before someone else steals her or at least find out where you stand, once you know what you want.

Sometimes I don't know what I want (when there is no stand out girl or she turns out to be Mrs. G or something).

[1Ball]

Mick, I think you are reading too fast. This is not about a choice you are going to make, as to you spending a bit of time getting to know a girl, prior to making a choice, this is about NOT having said choice.

In other words, you spend some time, you buy some drinks, you like the girl, and find out that she is already booked. Still sounds like something you want?

PS. I have taken Mrs G, and the previous Mamasan to dinner. I know they are not available, and that is not the point. It was a conscious choice to do so. But if I had taken a girl out, not knowing this, only to find out after having wasted time, then I would be annoyed.

That is what this is all about.

[Duniawala]

Dr. G, didn't want to get into the financial details and it was very much appreciated. But that was not the point of the story. Let it rest.

1Ball, thanks for clarifying.

I understand Dr.G's dilemma and I don't want to tell him how to run his place. He is in a tough spot with this issue and I sympathize. I don't think anybody has the right answer. Unless the genius Marketing Director can come up with an equitable solution.

Cheers. Next trip end of November.

[Giotto]

Correct, it is a kind of dilemma. And it is also not only about money, but about lost time to find somebody...

I still remember that times when I was customer in Soi 33, and it happened some times to me that a girl did not want to go out after I had bought drinks all night. That was basically the reason why I wanted this to be different in our Sports Lounge.

It is very much a question of the quality of a girl. If she is a bit more clever and knows how to deal with customers she will find out, that she does not lose anything if she is honest. If she knows how to talk she can wake up the hunter in the man, and also be honest, same time. Then the guy, who does not want to lose the game, will proceed trying, and will buy drinks, he will not accept the idea of being rejected. The girl on the other hand was honest, so the customer had the chance to move somewhere else.

Anyway, we are still training this, try to convince the girl to talk honestly, and sometimes it works, sometimes not. The Sir's case was one of the very black moments of the Sports Lounge history.


Giotto

[Traveler1234]

I understand Dr.G's dilemma and I don't want to tell him how to run his place. He is in a tough spot with this issue and I sympathize. I don't think anybody has the right answer. Unless the genius Marketing Director can come up with an equitable solution.



Hey - my job to get you into the place. What happens after that is the responsibility of the VP and QC Director.....LOL.

It happens to the best of us....obviously the poor guy is out some cash but in the long run the girl loses. There is no solution. Mr. G tries his best to run a tight ship but it can happen and will no doubt repeat in the future. But we all know it's worse elsewhere, right?

Planning a tour of Asia for November, hope to hit Bkk mid Nov, cheers to all.

[Piper1]

Planning a tour of Asia for November, hope to hit Bkk mid Nov, cheers to all.I'll be there mid-Nov also. Hope to catch up.

[M P Lurker]

Mick, I think you are reading too fast. This is not about a choice you are going to make, as to you spending a bit of time getting to know a girl, prior to making a choice, this is about NOT having said choice.

In other words, you spend some time, you buy some drinks, you like the girl, and find out that she is already booked. Still sounds like something you want?

PS. I have taken Mrs G, and the previous Mamasan to dinner. I know they are not available, and that is not the point. It was a conscious choice to do so. But if I had taken a girl out, not knowing this, only to find out after having wasted time, then I would be annoyed.

That is what this is all about.
Not reading too fast, just going off on a tangent as I often like to.
Obviously any girl that was booked already, should say so. Thats clear I guess??? But Mrs G said nothing to indicate she wasn't available. :-)

However there are often other reasons for a girl not going that might not be announced. Its not unusual to be knocked back due to a girl's period or she has to go to someone's birthday party later on.
I guess its wise not to invest too many drinks before you ask.

One night Miss J knocked back another customer because she was waiting for me, even though there was no guarantee that I would show up at the end of the night without a girl in tow already.
Not sure if she claimed to be booked already or not.

[Bluegreen]

As this unexpected topic rumbles on, let me be clear that none of the girls ever asked for / or inferred that they wanted me to buy them a single drink, and I don't regret buying a single one for any of them. Including the rather jolly night when I 'rang the bell'. It's just a gentlemanly thing to do, and if you can spend more than 10 minutes in their exquisite company without wanting to make such a small gesture of hospitality (Mamasan or otherwise) then may I suggest you invest in diamonds - just shove some coal up your bottom ;-). My complaint, if you could even inflate it to that level, was merely of personal embarrassment, and the following evening it was as if it had never happened.

Kidding aside, they all wear name badges. It's not out of the question to print MAMASAN on the bottom of three of them (or some similar code word), unless I'm missing something? The sparkling Mrs.G needs no badge or introduction, anymore than you would need to label a rose in a garden of orchids & lilies!

I look forward to returning to Livingstones in the future, once the dust has settled amongst the girls following my recent exploits, and my sordid reputation as a big fat butterfly fades a little..

[M P Lurker]

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My complaint, if you could even inflate it to that level, was merely of personal embarrassment, and the following evening it was as if it had never happened.
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I look forward to returning to Livingstones in the future, once the dust has settled amongst the girls following my recent exploits, and my sordid reputation as a big fat butterfly fades a little..
Bluegreen,

I wish I had a dollar for every knock back I ever had in Thailand.
Whether the girl ahd her period, liked another guy, was booked already, had an important appointment after work, was the mamasan, was the bosses wife, was in a bad mood, doesn't like Farangs who speak Thai, was upset that I wanted somebody else first, already knows some other guy, etc. etc.

No need to be embarrassed for too long. It happens to us all.
I have had a knock back at the Sports bar too.

Fortunately the remedy is easy in Bangkok. There will always be lots of other girls who want you. Even if all the bars have closed, we can still find freelancers outside in the street.

At least it never seems necessary to wank in Thailand.

Butterflys are abundant in the Sports bar.
Your "reputation" is not something to be concerned about.

Having wives in tow is the real problem in Thailand hampering the butterflying badly.

[Giotto]

After reading the Forum for a long time and reading up on Livingstone's Lodge, I was happy to finally have the opportunity to visit and experience it for myself. I am very glad I did.

Before I forget, Guido, your wine list is excellent! For all the readers on here, I know it is Thailand, but forget the Thai food for a day and order the Giotto's Tenderloin. It was one of the finest meals I have enjoyed, especially with the wine...

On to the other meat and potatoes. I reserved Junior Suite's for both myself and my friend and the rooms were nice sized and the beds were wonderful! The location of the lodge is excellent as it is close to Soi Cowboy, Starbucks, Banks, the BTS Phat Phroeng station, etc... From here it is really easy to get around.

I agree with Bluegreen's report that the women are wonderful and the Mamasan in the Sportsbar is great. We called her Hot Mamma and she seemed pleased with that.

There were several very nice girls there all three nights, but there were two that really caught my eye, Aye and Neuone (excuse my spelling).

Both girls were beautiful but unfortunatley I was only able to sample the talent once. The first night we had girls that accompanied us from Pattaya, the second night I Barfined Aye for ST and the third night I was too exhausted and had a 7:00 am flight for the states, so I went to bed alone... I still regret that decision, sorry Mamasan.

Tansak KTV, You are correct, I believe Thai women are trained from an early age to cry on demand, my girl from Pattaya cried every 5 minutes for an hour before she finally left in a cab.

Aye (from the sports lounge) was great, very inteligent and had the body of a cat. I don't think I could have asked for anything more. When she had worn me out, she felt it was too early to leave, so she spent the last 15 minutes or so giving me a wonderful massage to help put me to sleep. I believe I went to sleep smiling :-)

I would definatley reccomend the lodge and would highly recommend the imported steaks. They are wonderful. Apple (spell?) is a wonderful cook and thoroughly enjoys her job. I threatened Guido that I was going to steal her away in my suitcase to bring home!

My only wish is that I had gone to the Lodge first instead of at the end of a 11 day business trip as by the time I got there, I was exhausted. Still am.

I did not get a chance to meet Giotto but I received a lot of tips and words of advice from Guido. Thank you for the help! I hope your teeth are feeling better soon, by now you should have had the other side done.

I will post other reports in the appropriate threads.

Regards,

M8Member 8000,

Thanks for your report - I nearly missed it...

The Hot Mama...now I need to find out who is meant with that. Our Mamasan really does a good job, but whether I would call her "The Hot Mama" - I am not sure :) . Who was that ???

Anyway - good that you liked it here, thanks for staying - and come back soon.


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

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The location of the lodge is excellent as it is close to Soi Cowboy, Starbucks, Banks, the BTS Phat Phroeng station, etc... From here it is really easy to get around.
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Yes your spelling was a little iffy at times.
I guess "Phat Phroeng" BTS station is actually "Phrom Phong" (sounds like prawrm pong). Could have got confused with "Phat Phong" (a girlie district).
But Thai words are always confusing.

[Giotto]

...
I'm staying in Livingstones Hotel for a few days in a couple of weeks.

Can someone please tell me is the sports bar open all day?

What time do the girls start? Any tips would be great as this is my first visit.
...
Mick Ireland,

The Sports Lounge is open for our hotel customers all day - but the girls usually start working at 5 pm. But - some of them are here earlier, sometimes all day. Furthermore it is up to you to make agreements, and then they will be there either.

Don't worry too much, there are many things to do here in Bangkok, and everything can be arranged - just talk to me.

Looking forward to meeting you soon.


Giotto

[Takamine1]

Hi Mr G.,

A very long overdue thank you for finding time to talk to me when I visited you at the end of August. I certainly had an outrageous time in Thailand. Incidentally, I never visited you again not due to lack of respect but due to a change in plans. The following day I packed my bags and went to Chiang Mai. It was lovely. Thanks again and hope to see you next year.

Cheers and take care,

Taka

[Mr Doody]

Hi Giotto.

I am thinking of a 2 night stop over on my way thru BKK. (I do this trip several times a year). My problem is the timing of my flights? I arrive at 1am on the 19. 10. Allowing for customs and transfers does this allow me time to visit your famous bar that nite?

I am on the 2. 30am flight out on the 21st (I assume I’ll be checking out of your hotel late ob the 20th. Will I be charged 2 or 3 nights?

What are the differenced between your superior and deluxe rooms? And do you have any vacancies on my planned days? Can you rrnge airport pickup and drop-offs?

Cheers,

Doody

[Giotto]

A friend returned to the Lodge today - one of those European guys I had a verbal disagreement with right in the beginning, but afterwards we had a lot of fun.

Hey man, Mrs. Giotto can be disturbing sometimes, right? Come back, let's have a dinner together, may be somewhere outside, then we can talk [without *****es] :).


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
I am thinking of a 2 night stop over on my way thru BKK. (I do this trip several times a year). My problem is the timing of my flights? I arrive at 1am on the 19. 10. Allowing for customs and transfers does this allow me time to visit your famous bar that nite?

I am on the 2. 30am flight out on the 21st (I assume I’ll be checking out of your hotel late ob the 20th. Will I be charged 2 or 3 nights?

What are the differenced between your superior and deluxe rooms? And do you have any vacancies on my planned days? Can you rrnge airport pickup and drop-offs?
...
Mr Doody,

Thanks for your interest in staying at the Lodge. Let's discuss all reservation issues per E-Mail or via our website: http://www.livingstones.co.th .

Early 19.10 - that's the night from Thrusday to Friday, usually the bar closes there at 1 am. You will not arrive at the hotel before 2:30 am. Most likely nobody will be here any more (except the front desk staff), but of course we can arrange something.

Please contact me via PM.


Giotto

[Giotto]

I had the very definite pleasure of staying at Livingstone’s Lodge twice in the past month, most recently two weeks ago. I haven’t read many reports that describe the "live-in" experience, so I thought a contribution to the Forum would be worthwhile.
...
TimTimGuy,

Thanks for your report, and thanks for staying at Livingstone's. You obviously enjoyed the time here :) ...

I have now the problem of trying to remember who you were. Did we ever talk? I have no idea at this moment.

It was a pleasure to read your report - you knew how to enjoy your stay here, you took it easy, and you understood the philosophy of Livingstone's quite well. I hope we will have many guests like you in the future.

Hope to see you again soon, and don't forget to contact me when you stay here next time.


Giotto

[Mirror Thief]

I have been reading and lurking for months and I am finally done with planning my trip to BKK. Giotto, your reports and information has been fantastic so I decided to book a 3 night stay at the lodge despite the fact that I was already booked with another establishment. I just confirmed today with Guido, and I cant wait.

To introduce myself to the forum, I have been part of the scene in the states for quite a few years, am in my 20's, and have explored the scene in Europe (Germany, Netherlands, etc). Btw, I can absolutely reccomend a visit to the FKK's in Germany and on the Netherlands border. Fantastic, but extremely expensive. Been to Asia a few times in the past but never Thailand.

Anyhow, I am looking forward to my visit and I hope I have an opportunity to buy Giotto a drink for all the great posts on the forum. I will be in LOS from Dec 25th to Jan 9th, with the last three nights being at the Lodge.

[Giotto]

...
Butterflys are abundant in the Sports bar.
Your "reputation" is not something to be concerned about.
...Mick Licker,

I never ever saw a butterfly in the Sports Lounge up to now. Not a single one :) !

Another phenomenon is that there are obviously only male butterflies in Thailands bars. The females, changing customers every day, consider themselves to "work".

This is Thailand.


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Mick Licker,

I never ever saw a butterfly in the Sports Lounge up to now. Not a single one :) !

Another phenomenon is that there are obviously only male butterflies in Thailands bars. The females, changing customers every day, consider themselves to "work".

This is Thailand.
Giotto
Yes its a quite big double standard. The girls always the excuse that everything they do doesn't count, its just business, meanwhile the guys are butterflys, "Djao Choo", and many other names because we wanted to do it for pleasure.
A girl can call a man "dtolair" (slimy lying bastard) but we cannot call a girl that under any circumstances.

In my case I have a good heart but just with too many girls rather than exclusively with one - like being her property.

So my feeling is that a girl wants to own a guy, lock, stock and barrel or sometimes want to own more than one.
I feel the guys can have multiple wives as long as the wives are allowed to have multiple husbands as well. We have to be fair.
No double standards from us guys :-)

[Giotto]

...
I wuld be in Bkk in the night of 15 October for work. Will stay at Shangri la hotel. How far is Giotto's lodge from Shangri la hotel and can I get good girls for a couple of hours each night? How much do I have to pay if they come to my hotel?
...Hasan2502,

Shangri La hotel is about 30 min. with a taxi from here. It depends on the traffic, can also be 2 hours or 20 min. .

I have no idea whether you can get good girls for a couple of hours each night. That depends on you, only on you.


Giotto

[PeterGlaser]

He Mr. Giotto,

Please send nice greeting to the very polite and charming Madame "Sonia" wo works as honorable gatekeeper in the street. The most qualified we meet in Thailand. My "son" and myself, both german, blond blues eyes, thanks her in tis way, for nice and informative intructions about your establishment, sportsbar, hotel, restaurant. Couldn't come back this evenig to join the sportsbar as promised, because we both totaly break down in teen massage and myself ended "happpiiee" in deep heaven freom "Miss Bee". Will visit famous sports lounge on our next visit in December

Congratulations for your staff!

[Giotto]

Anyhow, I am looking forward to my visit and I hope I have an opportunity to buy Giotto a drink for all the great posts on the forum. I will be in LOS from Dec 25th to Jan 9th, with the last three nights being at the Lodge...
Mirror Thief,

Thanks, appreciated.

Try to start your visit in Bangkok here at the Lodge, I am quite sure I can give you some good advices. Remember, that time of the year is peak season...


Giotto

[Mirror Thief]

Mirror Thief,

Thanks, appreciated.

Try to start your visit in Bangkok here at the Lodge, I am quite sure I can give you some good advices. Remember, that time of the year is peak season...


GiottoGiotto,

Will do. I am getting in around 4 on the 26th and will be making my way over to LL for dinner around 7ish. Look forward to meeting you!

[Duniawala]

Thanks, Giotto,

Can I get good girls from Giotto's Lodge? If yes, for how much?

Take care, Hasan
Hey Hasan
This is not a brothel. And Giotto is not a pimp. So I suggest you go somewhere else like Khao San Road and Chinatown. I am sure you will be quoted rates by the hour. Or if you can afford it, call the Escort Services.

As the TQM Manager, I sure don't like your attitude and you are not welcome. Sorry, Dr. G, but I could not help it.

[Giotto]

Hey Hasan
This is not a brothel. And Giotto is not a pimp. So I suggest you go somewhere else like Khao San Road and Chinatown. I am sure you will be quoted rates by the hour. Or if you can afford it, call the Escort Services.

As the TQM Manager, I sure don't like your attitude and you are not welcome. Sorry, Dr. G, but I could not help it.Sir,

No problem at all, thanks.

That reminds me on that story from another thread, where somebody mentioned Nana Disco and Pegasus Club in one sentence, to find take-out girls to bring to a 5 star hotel...

Guys,

there are girls working here in the Sports Lounge, selected by our Mamasan, and quality controlled by our TQM manager, Sir Duniawala. So there is no question: The best girls of Bangkok work here at Livingstone's :):):).

That is what Livingstone's can do for you. Now - what can you do for [Livingstone's - no, for] yourself ???

--> Find YOUR girl, wherever you want, in the Sports Lounge or elsewhere in Bangkok, and enjoy your time. But please don't ask ME to find a girl for you.

Sir, btw., lots of girls are lined up for your next visit in November ... :), we urgently need the test results!


Giotto

[Revcolinn]

Dr. G,

It has taken me 8 months to work out how to add a report so this is my virgin ISG report.

Thanks for the putting the record straight. I won't ask you to find a woman for me in the sports bar. I will do all the work myself.

I have chosen the finest red that South africa can produce. It is bought packed. And ready for my trip iin March.

Like a good woman they say you should let wine lay on its side for a few years. I invite you to spend 5 mins with me and enjoy a glass.

[Cougar 2]

This is very late in posting. But I was reminiscing!

I stayed at the Lodge in March/April, and my flight home left at 8:30pm. I had arranged a late check-out, and asked for help hailing a taxi.

One of the men who worked there was sent out with me to help. He managed to get a cab after about 5 minutes (remember. This is 100 or so metres from Sukhumvit Road). I was getting ready to load my suitcase into the boot, when one of the gorgeous Livingstones ladies who was standing at the entrance (this was about 6pm) ran over and stopped me.

She said "NO no. Him bad man. He take too much money"

She then stood with me for a few more minutes, and hailed another taxi for me.

I thanked her. And was very grateful. I not only had a great conversation all the way to the airport, but the driver was very helpful and in no way asked for more than he deserved. It was a very pleasant way to end my time in Bangkok.

Typical of the service I found at Livingstones really.

[Giotto]

...
It has taken me 8 months to work out how to add a report so this is my virgin ISG report.

Thanks for the putting the record straight. I won't ask you to find a woman for me in the sports bar. I will do all the work myself.

I have chosen the finest red that South africa can produce. It is bought packed. And ready for my trip iin March.

Like a good woman they say you should let wine lay on its side for a few years. I invite you to spend 5 mins with me and enjoy a glass.Revcolinn,

Welcome to the forum! Thanks for your first report, and - I read the words of a wise man.

5 minutes will not be enough, we have to drink at least a bottle of wine together - that one from South Africa we lay on its side for a few years...:)

Just let me know when you arrive, and we will meet. For sure!


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Please send nice greeting to the very polite and charming Madame "Sonia" wo works as honorable gatekeeper in the street. The most qualified we meet in Thailand. My "son" and myself, both german, blond blues eyes, thanks her in tis way, for nice and informative intructions about your establishment, sportsbar, hotel, restaurant. Couldn't come back this evenig to join the sportsbar as promised, because we both totaly break down in teen massage and myself ended "happpiiee" in deep heaven freom "Miss Bee". Will visit famous sports lounge on our next visit in December

Congratulations for your staff!PeterGlaser,

Welcome to the forum, and thanks for your first report. We hope for many more to come... :) .

Yes, Sonja is an excellent receptionist, and she also has many long-time friends returning to the Lodge only to meet her. From all the receptionist outside she is by far the best one - and the one with the highest motivation level.

See you then in December, at Livingstone's.


Giotto

[1Ball]

G, it looks like Piper and I are going to be in town at the same time in November. Can Livingstone's handle both of us at the same time? Do you need to purchase additional insurance?
I will be there with my GF, by the way, so please ensure the webcam in 115 is off, and could you please ask Piper to behave, and not ask for a BBBJCIM from the lovely restaurant wait(ress) on the pool table? Last time was a bit much, even for my hardened eyes. ;)

It will be my GF's first trip to LOS. I hope she doesn't have a heart attack when she sees the goings on !

[Giotto]

G, it looks like Piper and I are going to be in town at the same time in November. Can Livingstone's handle both of us at the same time? Do you need to purchase additional insurance?
I will be there with my GF, by the way, so please ensure the webcam in 115 is off, and could you please ask Piper to behave, and not ask for a BBBJCIM from the lovely restaurant wait(ress) on the pool table? Last time was a bit much, even for my hardened eyes. ;)

It will be my GF's first trip to LOS. I hope she doesn't have a heart attack when she sees the goings on !Mr. Vice President,

Oh my god! Sounds like an upcoming catastrophe...

I will hire 150 additional girls from the surrounding bars :) ... and better we don't take any other customers into the hotel during that time.

Then - I think we can handle both of you.


Giotto

[Traveler1234]

I will hire 150 additional girls from the surrounding bars :) ... and better we don't take any other customers into the hotel during that time.
Giotto

Duni and I will arrive Nov 18th, please prepare the Dungeon.

[Duniawala]

Duni and I will arrive Nov 18th, please prepare the Dungeon.
Sorry Trav. I will be in Costa Rica then. Will be in LOS on the 28th early morning. Will be just staying for 2 days. Will be back gain mid-January.

However, you are right. The Dungeon must be ready.:)

[Piper1]

G, it looks like Piper and I are going to be in town at the same time in November. Can Livingstone's handle both of us at the same time? Do Based on our PMs, looks like I'll arrive same day you are leaving. Just in time to wave you a tearful goodbye.


I will be there with my GF, by the way Until she meets me - then she and I will both wave you a tearful goodbye, then run upstairs with evil laughter and evil intentions. :D


and could you please ask Piper to behave, and not ask for a BBBJCIM from the lovely restaurant wait(ress) on the pool table? Aw C'mon - you know I'm a gentleman, which is why I said please, then thank-you.

[1Ball]

Until she meets me - then she and I will both wave you a tearful goodbye, then run upstairs with evil laughter and evil intentions. :D

Perfect, I was wondering what to do with her, as I fly off to Dubai......
hehehe;)

[Piper1]

Perfect, I was wondering what to do with her, as I fly off to Dubai......
hehehe;)Touche' Mr. Ball! I've already warned my wife about your upcoming stay at our place. I told her you like a big rack, but she misunderstood, and is preparing your own personal dungeon as we speak.

[Giotto]

Perfect, I was wondering what to do with her, as I fly off to Dubai......
hehehe;)Mr. Vice President,

Alternatively to "forwarding" her to this Piper-Bestard you can leave her here in the Sports Lounge :) .


Giotto

[1Ball]

Touche' Mr. Ball! I've already warned my wife about your upcoming stay at our place. I told her you like a big rack, but she misunderstood, and is preparing your own personal dungeon as we speak.
Mmmmmmmmmm. Wildcat and a dungeon! Don't tell T1234, and Duni. they will be on the next flight to the Land of Sand. (a different LOS).

[1Ball]

Mr. Vice President,

Alternatively to "forwarding" her to this Piper-Bestard you can leave her here in the Sports Lounge :) .


Giotto
Not a good idea G. Once word gets out how "open" she is to just about everything, (after all, I have been her tutor), she will own that bar, and your girls will never have any work........;)

[Giotto]

Not a good idea G. Once word gets out how "open" she is to just about everything, (after all, I have been her tutor), she will own that bar, and your girls will never have any work........;)Mr. Vice President,

No problem, don't worry about that, Sir Duniawala will come in and do the quality check first :). Then we can decide...


Giotto

[Duniawala]

Mr. Vice President,

No problem, don't worry about that, Sir Duniawala will come in and do the quality check first :). Then we can decide...


Giotto
Did someone just call for my services? :)

[Viscount]

Hi Giotto,

I will be staying at Livingstones late November, for three nights, although I have been to Bangkok before, it was over 20 years ago, so don't remember much, and I was just a young lad then, anyway looking forward to visiting, and meeting some of your ladies, is it also possible to arrange trips such as the bridge over the river kwai trip etc and should I do that on arrival? Also I will be ther for Saturday November 24th, does that mean there will be a pool party?

Thanks for the great reports and look forward to my visit, Viscount.

[1Ball]

Did someone just call for my services? :)
Duni, her BF is 20,000. 19,500 of which goes to me. I know how you love to pay those loooooow BFs. ;)

[Giotto]

Duni, her BF is 20,000. 19,500 of which goes to me. I know how you love to pay those loooooow BFs. ;)Sir,

Don't worry, the company covers the costs :) .


Giotto

[Duniawala]

Sir,

Don't worry, the company covers the costs :) .


Giotto
What can I say. A true gentleman and a scholar. Looking forward to the next visit.

[Giotto]

...
I will be staying at Livingstones late November, for three nights, although I have been to Bangkok before, it was over 20 years ago, so don't remember much, and I was just a young lad then, anyway looking forward to visiting, and meeting some of your ladies, is it also possible to arrange trips such as the bridge over the river kwai trip etc and should I do that on arrival? Also I will be ther for Saturday November 24th, does that mean there will be a pool party?
...
Viscount,

Sounds good, but after 20 years you are still a young lad, aren't you?

Yes, we can arrange trips to everywhere, River Kwai trip, Tiger Temple, Sukhothai, Ayutthaya etc. etc. , no problem. But we should talk first.

And yes again, on Saturday, 24.11.2007 is --> the Livinstone's Lodge Swimming Pool Party.

See you soon.


Giotto

[Viscount]

Viscount,

Sounds good, but after 20 years you are still a young lad, aren't you?

Yes, we can arrange trips to everywhere, River Kwai trip, Tiger Temple, Sukhothai, Ayutthaya etc. etc. , no problem. But we should talk first.

And yes again, on Saturday, 24.11.2007 is --> the Livinstone's Lodge Swimming Pool Party.

See you soon.

GiottoHi Giotto,

Thanks for your reply, yes I think think like a young lad, so I guess that qualifies, excellent news about the pool party, what I will do is email the lodge when I know what day I can go on the trips and once again look forward to my trip, I spend a lot of time in Germany, so I am familar with fkk clubs, but the thai experience food/women etc should be great.

Best regards Viscount.

[Revcolinn]

I must be getting old Dr. G. After my virgin report I disappear for 2 weeks. Something wrong with the energy level.

Now for my question. And plz I don't need any RTFF response because I have RTFF. In fact I even read your extensive MP report but still cannot find any info on Nivarna MP. It looks like a "regular" place that does only traditional massage. I may be wrong however. The web site says it is on SOI 33 so I bow to your obvious knowledge and experience if you have any of this place.

I have a great attitude to MPs they must be close enough to be convenient but far away enough that your friends don't recognise your car parked outside.

May the red wine lay on its side for as long as necessary.

Revcolinn

[JuiceGuy]

Giotto,

Is the lodge/bar open for just people staying there or for us outsiders as well? I usually stay at the JW Marriott for work and convenience but I would not mind stopping by for a drink, check out the place and the WOMEN. Let me know. Thanks.

[Once Bitten]

For the fine folks at the Livingstone Lodge, and the sundry gits here that frequent said location:

Anything special planned for the New Year? New Year's Eve, and so on?

Planning to come through then, hoping to see what's out there for your guests.

Regards,

Chogotaku

[Giotto]

...
In fact I even read your extensive MP report but still cannot find any info on Nivarna MP. It looks like a "regular" place that does only traditional massage. I may be wrong however. The web site says it is on SOI 33 so I bow to your obvious knowledge and experience if you have any of this place.
...Revcolinn,

Never heard of this Nirvana MP. And I am quite sure that it is not in Soi 33, I should know that.


Giotto

[Giotto]

...Is the lodge/bar open for just people staying there or for us outsiders as well? I usually stay at the JW Marriott for work and convenience but I would not mind stopping by for a drink, check out the place and the WOMEN. Let me know. Thanks.Juiceguy,

The Sports Lounge is open for everybody, the hotel guests and walk-in customers as well.

Get over here!


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Anything special planned for the New Year? New Year's Eve, and so on?
...
Chogotaku,

There will be a New Year Party - of course. All the bars are open all night on New Year's Eve - there is always a lot of action in the roads, and in the Sports Lounge.

Details will be published as soon as we prepare that party in details.


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Revcolinn,

Never heard of this Nirvana MP. And I am quite sure that it is not in Soi 33, I should know that.


Giotto
From the web site:
"NIRVANA Massage 2
OPEN 11:00-CLOSE 01:00 a.m. Everyday
Sukhumvit soi33
TEL:02-6622057
"NIRVANA MASSAGE CENTRE 2 is located in Sukhumvit, along Soi33 in a small sub-soy just before the Wall Street bar, at the right side approaching from Sukhumvit. Only 5 minutes walk from the "Prompong" BTS Skytrain station. You cannot miss it: watch at the neon banner at the bottom of the subsoi!
"
http://www.nirvanabangkok.com/NirvanaMassage.htm

[Giotto]

From the web site:
"NIRVANA Massage 2
OPEN 11:00-CLOSE 01:00 a.m. Everyday
Sukhumvit soi33
TEL:02-6622057
...Mick Licker,

Yikes, don't know even this Soi any more.

I think I will walk around later and have a look :) ...


Giotto

[M P Lurker]

Mick Licker,

Yikes, don't know even this Soi any more.

I think I will walk around later and have a look :) ...


Giotto
Its a pity I'm not into real Thai massage by ordinary looking girls.
I prefer to do the massaging, preferrably of the erotic variety, and sometimes using the strongest muscle in the body. Can you guess what it is?
My tongue of course!
It never tires.
Pound for pound, nothing can beat the stamina of a tongue.

[Revcolinn]

Thanks Mike for getting that website to DR. G. I was going to do it but I was too busy using my tongue. The second strongest muscle in the body anotomically. I was however using it for purposes very different to yours.

Get with the programme DR G. No need to check it out experientially but just walk past and report back.

Anyway I am not opposed to the occasional foot massage or traditional massage after a day of touring and the website does allude to 'erotic" possibilities.

Who knows you may find a gem there who would be happy to accompany to the Lodge if no one there takes your fancy.

Getting more excited by the day.

Rev

[Duniawala]

Dr. G, why don't you check out the Breast massage and see if it is worth it. :D

[ArchieLeach]

Rev,

If you're looking for decent regular massage in Soi 33 I'd recommend CEFLE across from Giotto's place in a little side Soi. He told me about it and it was great. I used them several times.

Giotto,

Take a look at those pics if you get a chance. They were taken pretty quickly and by an amateur, but they show that you can get a little of the real ambiance of the Lodge at night on film if you try. That type of thing would be great for the website so all the uninitiated can see what we see. I think she has them on the computer now. Feel free to do anything with them you want.

I'm in Singapore now, having a good time with friends, but already missing the Lodge (and I'm feeling better now too).

Archie

[Venomq]

I guess it is only fair that my first post to this forum is one of gratitude to the team at Livingstone's Lodge. Now for those of you who have not had the divine pleasure of staying there I can only say this..."Get off your f$#kin ass and go!". Sorry I don't usually fly off the handle like that but if you've been then you'd understand.
I have been twice now; mid May'07 and early Oct'07. Both times were sensational. A friend of mine stumbled across this forum in February and came across the information about LL @Soi 33 and made it a port of call amid a 2 week rampage across LOS. To make a long story short we stayed there for 3 nights in the first week, loved it so much we shored up 2 nights early in Pattaya and went back Livingstone's for a further 2 nights which just so happened to coincide with the Pool party that month.

Ok...now I understand that the Lodge may not be for everybody and the Sports Bar may be a bit overwhelming from a distance but it really isn't. And even if you have doubts you should go and see for yourself. In this place everyone (from the top down) cannot do enough for you so that your stay is as pleasurable as you could possibly want it to be. My only recommendation is that you leave all your stress, worries and grumpiness at the door. You are there to have fun, sit, sing and dance a little if you're so inclined. The happier you are the more you'll get out of it. I would stand in a court of Law and testify to this very fact. Simply put I wake up in better mood now knowing that this place exists on the planet and that i'm only a couple jobs and plane ride away from going back there.

Ok now I’m just going to rattle off some things that I know have been said on this forum before but I shall reserve my right to re-iterate.

The Cribs (Rooms)

I have stayed in the Superior, Deluxe and Junior Suites at LL. Briefly I would say that I was happy with all the rooms, they are what they are. The Double Jacuzzi's in the Junior Suites are great (and yes I did use them on multiple occasions...not necessarily by myself). The Superior rooms are certainly adequate and provide you with everything you need. However my room of choice is the Deluxe Room. It fits in there nicely as a "middle ground compromise" class of room and for this trip it fit nicely into my budget.

The Chow (Food)

It was a struggle to leave Livingstone's for a culinary reason. So we didn't. The food at LL's is in a word Spectacular. My Main of choice: Argentinean Tenderloin - Medium or Medium Well (depending on your taste, I have medium), Mushroom Sauce, and Mash Potatoes. If you've got the cash splash out on a featured Red Wine. It isn't their cheapest dish (far from it and almost the exact opposite) but damn the money man and get it, I implore you! On the last night my friend and I were treated to a meal prepared by a celebrity Chef which turned out to be one of the best Thai Green Curries I’ve ever had meet my palette. Oh and before I forget, when you have breakfast get the Scrambled Eggs & Bacon, Sandwich bread, Orange Juice and Coffee. They must use the Force when they make those scrambled eggs, cause all I know is my gut worm is satisfied...at both ends!

The Sports Bar (Sports bar)

Cheez I hope you play Pool. If there ever was an inanimate stalwart in that bar it is the pool table. If you don't play pool then my friend pull up a chair and watch the ensuing matches. Some of those women can play. Looks sexy too. Sorry Mrs.G. Besides that there is nothing better than a cold bottle of Singha wrapped up, wall to wall women vying for your attention (unobtrusively so), great music and great company. Ahhhh the Good life.

My nights there have been memorable, so much so the downhill psychological slope when I return home is almost too much to bear. But that is Ok. It only makes me want to come back and have a better time. Dr.G thankyou. Livingstone's thankyou. I shall return Mid-February.

Best Regards,

VenomQ.

PS: Dr.G keep Caruso on ice until I come back.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Giotto]

We obviously have a problem with our reservation page of our website at the moment.

If somebody wants reserve a room or ask for availibility and it does not work via the website please use the following E-Mail to contact us:

info@livingstones.co.th

The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.

http://www.livingstones.co.th

[Giotto]

Dr. G, why don't you check out the Breast massage and see if it is worth it. :DSir,

In this case - I will have to send you there. If I go hunting in this road all my staff will know about that within 10 min. :) .


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Cheez I hope you play Pool. If there ever was an inanimate stalwart in that bar it is the pool table. If you don't play pool then my friend pull up a chair and watch the ensuing matches. Some of those women can play. Looks sexy too. Sorry Mrs.G. Besides that there is nothing better than a cold bottle of Singha wrapped up, wall to wall women vying for your attention (unobtrusively so), great music and great company. Ahhhh the Good life.

My nights there have been memorable, so much so the downhill psychological slope when I return home is almost too much to bear. But that is Ok. It only makes me want to come back and have a better time. Dr.G thankyou. Livingstone's thankyou. I shall return Mid-February.

Best Regards,

VenomQ.

PS: Dr.G keep Caruso on ice until I come back.
...
Venomq,

Thanks for your report, you BESTARD!!! You watched my wife playing pool, right? Where did you look at :) ???

Anyway - nice report, much too positive for Livingstone's, there are still so many problems here. And now the high season comes - now we will see whether our systems will work when its getting busy!

Caruso: To play Caruso is the safest way to wake the staff up to take care of the music! Whenever they hear something classical - the reaction will follow for sure. Who can stand classical music in the Sports Lounge :) ?

See you in February!


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Take a look at those pics if you get a chance. They were taken pretty quickly and by an amateur, but they show that you can get a little of the real ambiance of the Lodge at night on film if you try. That type of thing would be great for the website so all the uninitiated can see what we see. I think she has them on the computer now. Feel free to do anything with them you want.
...
ArchieLeach,

Thanks for staying at the Lodge, and for all the pictures you made. We will take some of them and put them online at our WebSite, if that is OK for you. We never had good night pictures.

I hope to see you again soon.


Giotto

[Giotto]

Piper and Tansak,

I agree. When I say it's not cheap I by no means think it's expensive. What I mean is that it's not low end, it's not bargain basement, it's not Khao San Road. And I pray that Giotto keeps it that way.

It represents great value. I just came from a 5 star hotel in Tokyo, and I'm about the check out and go to Singapore to stay at Shangri La. I'm also staying at Wynn in Macau and Langham Place and possibly the Pen in HK all on this one trip. And I will feel ripped off at every one of them after staying at Giottos.

There's nothing wrong with them really. I will continue to stay in 5 star hotels. I just wish there were more places like Giotto's in the world. And that's saying something, because I'm a typical whiny spoiled American tourist type.

And feel free to make his life hell while you're here. From what I've seen his life is too perfect and could use some chaos. After seeing his place, and meeting his wife, I have no sympathy for the man. Also Guido told me it's new hotel policy that anytime any guest needs anything late at night, we're to go knock on Giotto's door and wake him up. Whether it's a bottle of water or anything, no matter how trivial. It's part of the new hospitality scheme. So make use of it.

ArchieArchieLeach,

I found this report in the Bangkok thread.

A guest wants a bottle of water - and wakes me up late night. And that is Livingstone's new hospitality scheme. OK, so far so good.

I know you will return to the Lodge one day. And when this day comes - Piper and Tansak will wait for you downdstairs in the dungeon!

BESTARD :) !


Giotto

[ArchieLeach]

Giotto,

Yes, please feel free to use them in any way you wish. I only wish I had taken more time and more pictures.

By the way (as an addition to my report on the Lodge I would like to add that the internet is free). It irritates me every single time I check in to a hotel and they charge e for internet connection. I am at Wynn in Macau and it's costing me $15US to type this. BESTARDS!!! Langham in HK was the same, so was Shangri-La in SIN etc etc etc. BESTARDS, every one of them!!

As a matter of fact I downgraded from my Suite here at Wynn to a Deluxe Room instead just because of that. "Oh, you want to charge me $15US a day for internet?" "OK, fine. How about I pay $300US a night less for a room?" That makes me happier. I don't need a media room and all that space. It's just me.

One more example of good customer service at the Lodge, not trying to rip us off on small stuff.

I'm off to get scrubbed and rubbed at Rio now. : )

[Giotto]

...
By the way (as an addition to my report on the Lodge I would like to add that the internet is free). It irritates me every single time I check in to a hotel and they charge e for internet connection. I am at Wynn in Macau and it's costing me $15US to type this. BESTARDS!!! Langham in HK was the same, so was Shangri-La in SIN etc etc etc. BESTARDS, every one of them!!
...
ArchieLeach,

You got something wrong: YOU ARE A BESTARD!!!!

Those managers in those mentioned hotels are bastards :) !


Giotto

[ArchieLeach]

Yes, i stand corrected. They are rotten filthy BASTARDS.

[M P Lurker]

By the way (as an addition to my report on the Lodge I would like to add that the internet is free). It irritates me every single time I check in to a hotel and they charge e for internet connection.
Yeh me too. Haveing no convenient internet except at rip off prices is a pain.
That what makes Livingstones Lodge stand out against the pack (amoung others things). There are some other Hotels with complimentary Internet, but very hard to find at the same room price.

Livingstone's Wireless is not only a freebie, but is such a strong signal that nearly the whole Soi would be using it for free if they had the password.

[Duniawala]

A week with no comments? Is the Lodge still open or book somewhere else. What happened to the last pool party pictures.

Dr. G, wake up!!!

[Piper1]

A week with no comments? Is the Lodge still open or book somewhere else. What happened to the last pool party pictures.

Dr. G, wake up!!!The busier Giotto is, the quieter he is on ISG. I know there has been some mischief lately (involving one of my faves - Bengali Girl), but maybe the guilty people involved have been too busy to write their reports. ;)

[Member #3428]

The busier Giotto is, the quieter he is on ISG. I know there has been some mischief lately (involving one of my faves - Bengali Girl), but maybe the guilty people involved have been too busy to write their reports. ;)

Sounds like an interesting story, if we are still on for next Sat get together I hope to hear the tale. In manila now heading over tomorrow to BKK.

[Giotto]

A week with no comments? Is the Lodge still open or book somewhere else. What happened to the last pool party pictures.

Dr. G, wake up!!!Sir,

Busy. Just come back from Singapore. This thread is basically now used from our guests to write about their experiences here. And obviously nobody has to write something - it must be a boring place!

So many things going on, the occupancy of the hotel is quite high, and we had a mega event 2 weeks ago with more than 500 people here at Livingstone's. Still recovering from that.

And then - the Vice President was here, for some days. In those days I am completely occupied, no time to write anything. Always rolling out the red carpets at all places where he walks ... that is hard work!

When is your next trip to Bangkok?


Giotto

[Giotto]

The busier Giotto is, the quieter he is on ISG. I know there has been some mischief lately (involving one of my faves - Bengali Girl), but maybe the guilty people involved have been too busy to write their reports. ;)Pipeman,

Correct, as usual I am COMPLETELY INNOCENT :) . Would never touch Bengali Girl - I consider it to be your private property. But there are those BESTARDS running around, hunting everything with 2 legs and a ... whatever.

Let's wait whether we get details about that incident in 5 star last week :) .


Giotto

[Duniawala]

Sir,

Busy. Just come back from Singapore. This thread is basically now used from our guests to write about their experiences here. And obviously nobody has to write something - it must be a boring place!

So many things going on, the occupancy of the hotel is quite high, and we had a mega event 2 weeks ago with more than 500 people here at Livingstone's. Still recovering from that.

And then - the Vice President was here, for some days. In those days I am completely occupied, no time to write anything. Always rolling out the red carpets at all places where he walks ... that is hard work!

When is your next trip to Bangkok?


Giotto

Catering to the VP is hard work indeed. Next time roll out the pink carpets and you will have an easier time. :)

You do need to post some pictures of your Saturday night parties. Keeps the juices flowing, you know.

Alas, my project has been delayed, so my trip has to be postponed to mid January for now.

Keep writing.

[1Ball]

Sorry to say the story about Bengali girl, and 5 Star, is basically a non starter. I met a complete newbie to BKK, he came over to Livingstone for a look-see, but it was above his budget. I took him to Cowboy, where we sat and watched the lesbian show at Suziewong. The look on his face was more interesting than the show itself. I think he still has bruises on his chin. He nearly fell off his stool, trying to get within 3 inches of the slurping. We then proceeded to 5 Star to listen to the really good band, and Bengali girl was there. I told her Piper misses her, she smiled and said "I go with you", her only 4 words of English. I SMS'd Piper in the Land of Sand to tell him I was with his best girl. He was crestfallen. ;)

Wish there was something more substantial to report.

Tansak, I will be there next Saturday, my last night there before heading to the beach with my GF. Hope to run into you for a drink.

G, the red carpet is looking a bit thread bare. Please get me a nice new thick one for next week. Thanks :)

PS. How is the pool looking?

[Member #3428]

Tansak, I will be there next Saturday, my last night there before heading to the beach with my GF. Hope to run into you for a drink.

Oh I'll be there after suffering through a huge delay getting in yesterday then other problems all night, and now having problems with my regular, probaby time for change.

[Giotto]

...
How is the pool looking?Mr. Vice President,

It looks ok now. The water is perfectly clean, but the tiles ...

Luckily the specialists found out what had caused the problem. The circulation pump broke 8 weeks ago, and our pool maintenance company took it our for reparation. That lasted 5 (!!!) weeks. During this time the pump started to rust ... and when they installed the repaired pump the rust was pumped into the water, and had this "beautiful" coloring effect on the tiles.

This week we will add some chemicals to the water, lower the PH value, and everybody hopes that the chemical reaction will be reverted. Otherwise we need to empty the pool to clean that mess up. And then we will also exchange that pump to a plastic one, to avoid that problem happening again.

Its rather frustrating to work with this 'high qualified' Thai companies.


Giotto

[Giotto]

Oh I'll be there after suffering through a huge delay getting in yesterday then other problems all night, and now having problems with my regular, probaby time for change.Tansak KTV,

LOL. Thai boxing :)?


Giotto

[1Ball]

And of course, G, this wonderful "high qualified" thai company is saying to you.

"Please accept our apologies khun G, and of course, there is no charge whatsoever for us fixing the problems we created".

NOT

[Member #3428]

Tansak KTV,

LOL. Thai boxing :)?


Giotto

Yeah, you know the story from last night, was afraid to go home without a body guard. Will be back over hiding out at the bar when today's sessions are done.

What's up with Sat? Any plans for group meeting?

[Giotto]

...
What's up with Sat? Any plans for group meeting?Tansak KTV,

Good, you obviously survived :) !

OK, guys, who is here on Saturday and joins us for an ISG meeting?


Giotto

[Member #4147]

Whats goin' down? Could be up for sumpin'-sumpin'! If terak will allow. Peace out, party on!

[Giotto]

Whats goin' down? Could be up for sumpin'-sumpin'! If terak will allow. Peace out, party on!Ultra Pilot,

LOL. Welcome to Livingstone's.

Please PM me your name and room number, that I can meet you. There are some members here at the moment, you would for sure be interested meeting them!

C U.


Giotto

[SidTheSexist]

G,
Im back next friday, 23rd!! not sure of plans but should manage a beer at least on fri or sat night. Only in town for 1 week though :D
Sid

[Giotto]

G,
Im back next friday, 23rd!! not sure of plans but should manage a beer at least on fri or sat night. Only in town for 1 week though :D
SidSidTheSexist,

LOL. How long will your "week" be this time - a month??? :)

Anyway, come over here, let's have a beer. And bring this Meaty-Bestard, I did not see him for months now.


Giotto

[1Ball]

3 days in BKK with complete newbie. A woman!

I had a little over week of down time between trips to DXB, so I invited my Balinese GF to come spend some time in Thailand. This girl has never been off her island, livers in a tight knit family environment, and knows nothing of the outside world.

I decided to stay at Livingstone, after having explained to her the goings on in this den of iniquity, and asking her how she would feel about being around a bunch of horny middle aged guys. She replied that I was a horny middle aged guy, so it would feel ok to her. :(

Well, she was not prepared for this. We arrived late, walking into the Lodge at 9.30 PM. As we walked into the bar, (what the hell), open the doors and throw her to the wolves), her eyes popped out of her head, the ladies were all in evening gowns, and looked good.
the bar was busy, and we started drinking. She was having fun. My fears of her being afraid of the big Durian were unfounded. She fit right in with the ladies, some of whom took her under their wings, protecting her from grabby paws, and drunken guys, while I played pool. She then asked to go out, and see the nightlife. Around midnight, we arrived at a great little seafood place on soi 23 for some fuel. Then into Soi cowboy, where her eyes bulged again. We walked around cowboy a bit, with her popping inside the curtained areas for a quick look. We settled on my favorite bar, 5 Star, as she and I both like that kind of music. She was up and dancing and singing in no time. We got back to the lodge around 2.00 am, where I was treated to a very delicious session of “thank you for bringing me here” sex. Off to sleep.

Next day, shopping, sightseeing, yawn.

That evening, dinner at an outside street restaurant, walk around Sukhumvit, drinks at the sports lounge.

Our last night here, she wanted to see the “naughtier” side of the nightlife, so after dinner at the Paragon food court, we went off to Nana. I warned her it might be a bit over the top, she just smiled and said “ show me”. So we went to Angelwitch, which used to have a nice show, not too crazy, but the highlight was 4 naked girls, sponges, and lots of soap. They must have been working outside in the hot sun, to need such a hard scrubbing down. Alas, nothing of the sort took place, it was all very tame, except for a pseudo S&M show, which made her shiver……..

Not impressed. As we walked out, she came across the food stall that sells friend bugs, worms, cockroaches, etc. Now that was fun for her. She gave the lady 20 Bt, and snapped away, at least 15 pics of the delicious creatures. This is probably what she will enjoy showing her friends the most, upon returning home.

She loved the sports lounge, so we had to go back there. We ordered a bottle of wine, the “wine of the month”, very nice, and Guido gave me a little discount on it, which is always appreciated. It was”Champagne night”, the girls were dressed to the nines, and by now, they all know her, and come over to talk to her. Giotto, fresh from a boring business meeting in Singapore, was on his “nth” glass of red wine, feeling no pain, and playing DJ. My GF and Nam, with whom I spend 3 nights a year ago, are getting along famously, and start doing a “coyote ugly” kind of dance. Giotto and I exchange lascivious looks, smiling knowingly. Girls can be so deliciously naughty, don’t you think?

After too many drinks, more food, some pool, and lost of dancing, my GF turns to me, smiles and says. “I’m horny, and I want the KY tonight”.

I think I knocked over a couple of people, as I rushed out the bar, dragging her behind me.

What an amazing 4 days. I was worried at first she would rebel against the whole bar thing, and we should stay away from the area in a family style hotel, but she had told me it would be ok. She was lots of fun, had no prudish insecurities, and can’t wait to come back next week after our few days at the beach, down south. She is fascinated by the whole bar girl life, and even though she is thankful for her life, away from all this, she is very curious, and plans to by a lady drink for one of the girls, in order to ask her about her life.

Livingstone’s, as usual, was great. The service there is marvelous, all the staff know the customers by name, the girls are lovely. I feel the quality of the Thai food has gone down a bit, or maybe I was just unlucky on the couple of dishes I ordered. The Thai pork soup for breakfast is a must.

Except for the Jacuzzi taking over an hour to fill up, (we fell asleep waiting for it to be ready), Livingstone’s is now a smooth, well oiled machine. Guido as usual goes out of his way to make things as perfect as possible. It really does feel like one is staying at a friend’s house, except of course, there is that damned bill to deal with as you leave.

We’ll be back Thursday for 1 more night.

PS. The electronic key cards are a pain. They don't work 1/2 the time, meaning one has to run back to the front desk to have it programmed again.

[Tamurlane26]

Alas how to get you - the dear reader - to read my report without stealing the tagline from the erstwhile and more erudite commentator 1Ball.

Well I was not fortunate enough to be able to travel through the region with a nubile Balinese nymph so when such nymphs are missing what to do. Of course the obvious answer is bring your father !

Yes this was the moment when after the delay of a year - in order to allow Giotto and Guido to prepare for their first twilight zone moment - when the Senior of the Senior Member came to the fore.

We arrived at night and just when I had thought that the Senior member would wish to retire he discovered the Sports Bar. Then the moment of truth which of the young ladies would attract his eye ? Well at first it would have appeared that the dear old mamasan was eying Pops - but this was her first mistake. Old women past their prime are not an attraction to 73 year old gentlemen experiencing their first Sports Bar moment.

To the delight of all concerned our intrepid warrior fresh from his visit to KL was out of the bar - needless to say accompanied within 30 minutes. The only problem was that dear son the supposed "ISG Senior Member" was firing blanks. First Strike - Miss J walked out the door - Second Strike Miss N - does not partake - Third Strike - this was a dodgy decision some would argue that it was Mrs Giotto that took the third strike but in the interests of honour we have to say that the Third Strike went to "Red Zone".

At this point Giotto was busily chuckling into his tea and mentioning that the carpark at Nana was available. Our other friends were also mentioning that perhaps Daddy was the "real man" and that my membership should be revoked by Jackson on the grounds that it was clearly granted under false pretences.

However never underestimate the power of the senior members. A short walk to 7-11 ostensibily to purchase shower gel - in reality to escape the total humiliation and we were away down the Soi.

The first arm that dragged me into their bar was about to have succeeeded until out of the corner of my eye I espied the "wild buffalo on heat" - hair akimbo breasts wobbling like the worst jello known to man and lipstick painted on ala Rocky Horror Picture Show - this was time for the Last Post and the quick retreat. Steriods were not required to move swiftly down the road.

At this point the lords of the night shone on me and lo and behold walking towards me was a member of the Sports Bar - short dress and wide smile on the way back to the bar. I can only get down on my knees and thank the foolish customer who tried to have sex sans condom and so she walked.

We retired to the Sports Bar to pay the necessary fine - a more happier fine payer was never seen in Bangkok. The door was slide open triumphantly and the money proferred to a bewildered Mrs G - she looked stunned as did the Boss himself who collapsed in laughter - perhaps hysterically because he was concerned at what I might have found in the car park of Nana.

What happened next and what was Daddy doing - blissfully unaware of all the drama surrounding his young son.

Watch for the next thrilling installment of life in the Lodge !!

[SexWithSmile]

Dear Doctor G,

It will be great coming back to Livingstones after 10 months, and now being in monger-starved India, I am counting the days.

Now I would like to have your well-informed opinion about an issue concerning myself and a Thai girl – I am confident you will love that one.

As you might remember, last time I was a good customer of M, a Tulip massage girl: not the most sexy (although quite acceptable for Tulip esthetical standards), but offering the best sex-action as she would do anything and beyond, and she would always introduce me to some friends of her for very good threesomes. I still have found memories of our sexual choreographies, where I would first use a vibrator in 3 or 4 holes, then happily taking 2 tong-kissing, pussy-fingering girls though their backdoor. It would also end in a civilized manner with 2 good active showers, and M putting back and lacing my shoes before waving goodbye (all girls should be trained in such fashion…).

Now all this was always at a professional level, and I would dutifully pay the massage fees, pay the barfine when I took them out, and their private dues. Not more not less.

During those 10 months away from Thailand, me and M. kept e-mailing each other and sending pics. Most of the e-mail from her part were the usual hooker-vocabulary (“I miss you too much”, “you make me smile when I remember you”), with some nice, spontaneous touches (“I can only offer you my sincere friendship”, “you can forget me, but don’t forget Tulip”). So obviously, as soon as I land in Bangkok, I am running over there for a wild, glorious threesome with her and whatever friend she can introduce to me (unfortunately, one of them, a very sweet girl, got married).

But something strange happened in her last e-mails. Now she offers herself after working hours, or during her Monday vacation. This rings warning bells to me. I don’t think that she will do the “need money for dying papa” trick (being banged 4 times a day with her skills, she must make a fortune), but (and maybe I flatter myself here) I am afraid that she becomes possessive. Basically, I want to keep my threesomes and not indulge in a romantic relation, with all the problems incurred.

Therefore Doctor G, you who have an intimate knowledge of Thai female culture and traditions, can you recognize whether there is a possessive danger here, or an opportunity to consider her as the “preferred lady” who makes me happy by fulfilling my sexual fantasies through sophisticated sessions? Could a Thai 150% sex-professional girl, who is very committed to her employer (the Tulip family), have feelings which may turn out to be problematic to me, or maybe this is simply part of a fine-tuned marketing strategy.

Obviously you never saw the girl, so you could never try to analyze her, and I understand that you are very busy, but any parcel of your knowledge would be useful to me, and maybe to the other distinguished readers of this forum.
Actually my dream would be to invite a young innocent girl to join our little couple, but I risk to be called a Bestardissimus pervert.

All the best,

SWS

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[Giotto]

The Vice President left yesterday.

30 min. later the Marketing Director arrived.

VIPs, VIPs, VIPs :) ...


Giotto

[Giotto]

3 days in BKK with complete newbie. A woman!
...
She loved the sports lounge, so we had to go back there. We ordered a bottle of wine, the “wine of the month”, very nice, and Guido gave me a little discount on it, which is always appreciated. It was”Champagne night”, the girls were dressed to the nines, and by now, they all know her, and come over to talk to her. Giotto, fresh from a boring business meeting in Singapore, was on his “nth” glass of red wine, feeling no pain, and playing DJ. My GF and Nam, with whom I spend 3 nights a year ago, are getting along famously, and start doing a “coyote ugly” kind of dance. Giotto and I exchange lascivious looks, smiling knowingly. Girls can be so deliciously naughty, don’t you think?
...
Mr. Vice President,

As always - it was a pleasure to have you with us again, especially because you brought your GF this time. As you wrote - everybody liked her and took care of her to make her enjoy her stay here at Livingstone's.

It was interesting that night, she came up to the DJ station and requested some dance music :) ... that she could proceed in her "coyote ugly" activities. Just bring her here some more times, and she will stay having a girl friend :) .


I feel the quality of the Thai food has gone down a bit, or maybe I was just unlucky on the couple of dishes I ordered. The Thai pork soup for breakfast is a must. Still the same team of chefs / cooks, should be unchanged. But - of course it depends on which cook is preparing your specific food.


PS. The electronic key cards are a pain. They don't work 1/2 the time, meaning one has to run back to the front desk to have it programmed again.That surprises me, we had only very little problems with that system up to now. I have my card since a year, and it still works ... but I will check that.

Thanks for staying here, and thanks for the report. Will see you again soon, on your way back, then the Marketing Director leaves a few hours before you arrive. I think you two will never meet...


Giotto

[Acerboy]

The Vice President left yesterday.

30 min. later the Marketing Director arrived.

VIPs, VIPs, VIPs :) ...

GiottoSo many VIPs! So if i need a room tomorrow, can you organise one for me?PM me. Thanks. I'd like to meet the Marketing Director, Traveller 1234 right?

[Armj7]

Giotto,

I will be in Livingstone's on the 25th of Nov onwards. Reading the Massage Parlour thread, it seems a lot of these massage parlours are mainly for extras. Is there near a massage place that just gives a good massage within walking distance of Livingstone's (extras are optional rather than the main course)? I hope to get a famous thai back massage everyday for all my 9 days in Thailand. Hope that sorts out all the knots!

[Giotto]

So many VIPs! So if i need a room tomorrow, can you organise one for me?PM me. Thanks. I'd like to meet the Marketing Director, Traveller 1234 right?Acerboy,

Bookings via the website, please. http://www.livingstones.co.th

Today still some rooms available.

Thanks.


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Yes this was the moment when after the delay of a year - in order to allow Giotto and Guido to prepare for their first twilight zone moment - when the Senior of the Senior Member came to the fore.

We arrived at night and just when I had thought that the Senior member would wish to retire he discovered the Sports Bar. Then the moment of truth which of the young ladies would attract his eye ? Well at first it would have appeared that the dear old mamasan was eying Pops - but this was her first mistake. Old women past their prime are not an attraction to 73 year old gentlemen experiencing their first Sports Bar moment.
...
Watch for the next thrilling installment of life in the Lodge !!
Tamurlane26,

Wow, what a story!

Must have been really exciting at Livingstone's Sports Lounge that night. Btw., I experienced a similar story just a few days ago, happend also in our Sports Lounge - just published it in the Giotto's Stories thread :):):) :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=671399#post671399

Anyway, thanks for returning to the Lodge, we really had fun those days, even if I could not understand your Singlish :) ...


Giotto

[TimTimGuy]

In a previous post about my misadventures at LL in August and September, I moaned about an unfulfilled interest in a lady (Ms M.) that I spotted on my first visit. Sometimes things just work out.

Now, no complaints about the two sweethearts I hooked up with in the earlier visits. To the contrary, I really liked both women, and especially lady #2 (Ms Y). When I was planning my return trip to BKK, I was undecided about whether to stay-the-course with Ms Y, or try again to hook up with Ms M. Decisions, decisions.

I made my entrance to the Sports Bar after 21h00 on Halloween. (Is it me or is it taking even longer to get out of Suvarnabhumi these days? ) I brought Halloween treats, just to mix up the usual entrance. And, of course, as a way to buy time to check out the ladies. From among the beauties, I was met by the same, really terrific lady (Ms Y) who "took care of me" for two nights in mid-September. And by Ms M. Rrrff! Anyway, I bought drinks and dinner for the bunch of us-- mamasan, Ms Y, and Ms M. Ms Y asserted territorial rights, Ms. M was dispatched by momasan to chat up a new arrival. I said, "Whatever! "

And being paired up with Ms Y is not a bad thing. Oh, my no. We had a very, very nice reunion. She was noisy, wet, very attentive and carried on about how " you make me cum hard! " It might even have been true.

But the next night, Ms M greeted me alone when I came into the Sports Bar. Ms Y was in the back room, doing whatever the girls do when they disappear for a while to in the back room. Ms M dutifully fetched her out, but sent ALL the signals that it was unfortunate that I was. Uh. Hooked up.

Having Ms M around was like having a moth (me) near a flame. Except, as it turned out, nobody was quite sure who was the moth, or who was the flame. We were dancing and carrying on and Ms Y did not seem to care too much. So I made a decision, answering the question about "what kind of guy am I"? I wished Ms Y well, barfined Ms M, and away we went.

Except for emergency martinis, we didn’t leave the room for about 24 hours. We didn’t break anything but I worried about structural damage. Down south, The Nation reported ". Continuous tremors became so strong that they could no longer be read on seismological instruments, leading scientists to evacuate their posts. " I am not making this up. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

It turns out that Ms M had HER eyes on ME since that first trip in August. She remembered things that I had forgotten. I am well aware of the famous TG memories but I am not too world-weary to be flattered by a young woman remembering me over a 3 month period. So, I barfined Ms M. For 3 days after that and we had a terrific time. We visited some places where the daughters and sons of Issan could care less about 1 a. M. Closings.

So now I have a real dilemma about returning to the Sports Bar. Why? Well, there’s another lovely lady who sets her hip in such a provocative way when she shoots pool. Sigh! Why am I a butterfly? Because there are so many flowers.

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[1Ball]

I would like to pass a motion to name “Pops” a Senior Livingstone Monger.

Mr Chairman, I respectfully ask you to second the motion.

Turmaline, remember to tell Pops to keep drinking lots of water.

[Giotto]

I would like to pass a motion to name “Pops” a Senior Livingstone Monger.

Mr Chairman, I respectfully ask you to second the motion.

Turmaline, remember to tell Pops to keep drinking lots of water.Mr. Vice President,

Of course I second that motion and name "Pops" Livingstone's Senior Bestard! He has really earned our respect!

Now - if we go into details of that story - shouldn't we then change Tamurlane's title to "Wonnabe Bestard" :):):) ?


Giotto

[1Ball]

Actually Mr Chairman, I believe he should also be a guest lecturer in the "Livingstone School For Bestards".

Please accept my payment for Turmalane's tuition when I see you Thursday evening. I beleive he should be the first student.

PS. My GF can't wait to get back to the Sports lounge. She loves it. Please have the appropriate "Coyote Ugly" music ready.

I have created a monster. (But a good one). She is so notty. :D

PPS. The MD is awfully quiet.

[Tamurlane26]

To those old enough to remember those immortal lines from British Comedy please await the next installment.

Having knocked off the "rust" - yes I wholeheartedly agree their should be refresher courses for all returning Bestards - there is another 2 days of hilarity to recount.

Please forgive the delay as am recovering from the Pops tour of Singapore where I mistakenly was given the room next door and am recovering from the headaches caused by his bouncing the headrest against the wall. Needless to say he denied all and claimed that the said lady went home 3 hours earlier than the incident - "methinks not".

This next day relives a trip down memory lane with the Great G to Van Gogh and winds up with "Green Tea" for Pops !!

Would say that he enjoyed it so much he has already planned the march visit and has informed me that he will not be arriving via Singapore as it is too dull and they have no concept of customer service. But for that you will have to read the Singapore thread !

[Traveler1234]

So many VIPs! So if i need a room tomorrow, can you organise one for me?PM me. Thanks. I'd like to meet the Marketing Director, Traveller 1234 right?

It's now Wed morning and I'm 'pecking' away in my room. Been here since Sunday afternoon and been busy with work, entertaining business clients, etc. Also nursing a bad stomach - probably some bad Malaysian pussy.

Missed VP by literally 15 minutes, but did catch up with Mr. G and check out the new stable at the bar. Considerable turnover since my last visit so business must be good. My wingman from earlier visits had 36 hrs of free time so flew in around 2 am last week, made arrangments for Ms. T to be available. My Malay partner enjoyed two pops with one of my favorites at Akane and then helped him barfined a Ms. D (nice rack) from the bar.

Life is tough these days, helping others enjoy and thus not having time to partake myself :)

Flying off to HK to join the Mrs and my son later this morning for Thanksgiving, sorry if I missed anyone this trip.......

[Tamurlane26]

One realised as soon as 1Ball arrived that the embarassing episodes of the first night would be laid bare in the usual amusing fashion by the erstwhile scribe - our veritable Boswell (aka Giotto).

Therefore having escaped the misfortune of the first night by the skin of one's teeth one was determined to avoid another worse fate - knowing that the VP would be arriving in order to monitor progress.

So having had breakfast and Pops persuading said long legged beauty to accompany him to the Grand Palace for some temple watching. My own recommendation was to foray to the nearest photoshop get the photos done there superimpose the images and return to the Sports Bar as fast as possible in order to be in prime position for early booking.

Alas the Senior Member was having none of this so I was required to visit the temple. Now under such circumstances the best thing to do is request some divine intervention. This was being done by a very contrite Pops who then announced that he had some Buddhist music in the home country - perhaps this explains his ability to hit early home runs.

In the meantime Junior had relinked with an old flame from Van Gogh - who is now out of the game and was the subject of a very old post on Old Masters and a trip down the Soi with Giotto. To cut a long story short she agreed to lunch - and it appeared that the gods were shining favourably on the ring rusty.

Now the amusing part was not how long it took her to disrobe - room 115 you are a wonderful scene for these activities - memories also of the Duck in the same room and another long legged Linda ! But the phone calls she received in the room.

1. Before disrobing - "yes darling i will see you soon - but please dont take another girlfriend - that would make me so sad"

2. After the session when she admitted that the next day her regular financier was appearing and she had spent the morning preparing his flat !! He called not once but thrice to inform her he was leaving the house - had checked in and was boarding. Needless to say I must thank the airports in Europe as took the opportunity to have another bite at the cherry in between him checking in and boarding. These security checks are truly a blessing when you are tasting the fruits.

"Yes darling the flat is already and the sheets are nice and clean. Please dont make me cry when I think of you in the plane for 12 hours. But I will be waiting and and be ready - its so long since I had sex - I cannot wait for you"

Amazing - all said with a straight face and whilst lying stark naked in 115 with the Rusty Bestard trying hard to concentrate on not making another foray into the bush !

But does it end with the recovery - well almost. As one had some unfinished business in the Sports Bar. One cannot allow the challenge of being outsmarted to last for long.

So post a long dinner with Mr G and Mrs G - well the least i could do after that faux pas is buy the lady dinner. We retired to the bar - not before Pops had already disappeared down the road with the long legged wonder. He is thinking of the export market already however advised him that it was far more fun to return to the Lodge as then he would not upset the 70 year old girlfriend in the home country.

There espying Miss J being busy with another customer and determined not to fail twice as soon as said customer paid the bill - coast clear and within 5 mnutes - "can i bar fine you yes - no my girlfriend has left - (amazing how observant they are ! - perhaps should tell Mr G that all girls should leave the vicinity in the afternoon in order that we can enjoy others before returning to the bar in the evening.) We were off to the bed once more.

So all in all from the disaster stakes to 3 in 24 hours one hopes that this non-too shabby performance allows one to show that the rust was only superficial and having recovered from the comment from

Mrs G:- "your father is a real man - he knows what he wants and doesnt waste time" - ouch
Mr G - "are we going to Nana Carpark today or chasing wild buffalos on heat"
1Ball - "your father is impressive - pity you are not a chip off the old block but then again he is English" !!

Now the tale would end there but for the fact that Senior upon finding that the long legged wonder had the "red flag" did not surrender the initiative.

He was left alone for an hour in the lodge and promptly disappeared only to reappear at checking out time with a slow gait and a broad grin mentioning he had had a massage in the Soi.

What was not released information was that he had enjoyed the "Green Tea" massage and as he put it "she was a lovely little creature especially when bouncing up and down naked".

Truly a Bestard !!

[Fox Two]

Finally! I have a day of relative quiet to reminisce over the events of the last week and a half. With all the ISG here, it has certainly been busy. Giotto has threatened dire consequences if I do not post. He is such a nagging bestard. I don't know how/why his girlfriends put up with him. Next he will demand that I go clean the dungeon with my tongue or something.

I won’t preface this too much other than to say that for this trip to the LoS, I was able to bring along a friend to act as wingman. No, not female. I know better than to bring sand to the beach. Mostly I wanted a 2nd set of eyes to watch my back and play interference with other girls while I maneuvered to make the hit on my girl of choice. Plus, it’s damn nice to have someone along who speaks decent English.

As mentioned earlier, we arrived a little over a week and a half ago. Customs wasn’t too bad. Maybe a 15-20 min wait. After being cleared, we went outside to catch a ride. We ignored the touts promising special deals for 600 THB and got in line at the curb to get a metered cab. For us, the cab ride from the old airport to Livingstones cost about 340 THB, including tolls and a small tip.

Although we arrived around 1AM, the staff was nice enough restart the grill and prepare a nice dinner with some refreshments. It was a nice touch, and much appreciated.

The Card Key system is a great idea, but bit tricky to work. The doors do not have a picture showing the correct way to insert the card. Even after figuring out the correct facing (backside faced UP), the card needs to be held fully inserted for a moment or two for it unlock the door. A quick swipe in and out, as you would at a gas/petrol station does not work. Also, for whatever reason, when I asked for a statement of my current expenses at the lodge my key card deactivated and I had to go back downstairs to get it re-enabled. During my stay here, I witnessed three other customers with similar key card issues.

The staff is to be commended on its responsiveness. They usually have my room cleaned and linens changed within an hour of my leaving the room, no matter what the time I leave. They are thorough too. Case in point. This is a tropical climate, so seeing a few bugs is to be expected. My first evening at Livingstones, I spotted a dead cockroach in a far corner under the sink. As a test, I left it there to see if the room service people would do anything. The next morning after I came back from breakfast, I was happy to see it was gone and everything thoroughly cleaned. Perhaps the only negative I can think of about room service is that while clean, the linens do not always smell the freshest.

The first few nights here were devoted mainly to training my wingman with basic punter’s survival skills. The 2nd floor of Nana and the parking lot outside were excellent for helping him develop his ladyboy sense. Frequent visits to Soi Cowboy helped his language skills. Not everyone understands from the start that, “You hansum man” really means “I think you make a great ATM machine” or that “You have good heart” means “You are tipping too much”.

Having a buddy along to chat with is definitely a plus. It’s good to be able to compare notes and observations. Between us, we’ve begun using pet names for Giotto’s girls like “Ink Girl”, “Rock Star”, “Lips”, “Tomboy”, “Pool Shark”, and “Cover Girl”. Because we know the girls understand more English than they let on, we have reverted to using Pig Latin and the phonetic alphabet to speak privately while in their company. We also mix in infrequently used words and curse words to further confuse them and amuse ourselves.

Things have not worked out exactly as I planned. We have not gone to as many different places as I would like. Mainly, because my wingman seems to have gotten himself besotted with one of the bargirls, "Lips" from Giotto’s place. He has bar fined her for several nights in a row and all he wants to do is to go out dining with her and shoot pool at Giotto’s place. I have been trying to get him to sample fruits from other places, but he seems content with the girl he has. Perhaps I am being cynical, but I have concerns about my wingman. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

BTW, Tansak and 1Ball, it was nice meeting you two and I hope we cross paths again in the future.

One further parting note for those that might be interested. During our carousing, we discovered one of the girls that used to work at Livingstones, Ms F*, now works at Swan 5 Coyote, down around Nana. If you go there, be watchful of the ladyboy dancer. “She” is lighter skinned and taller than most of the other girls. Also on the skinny side with straight black hair down past the shoulders.

[Kunkoh]

So, my friend talks me into coming to Thailand, convinces me that Livingstone's is the place to stay, and that fun is to be had.

We arrive, and get settled in, the first thing I notice is this isn't your ordinary hotel. It's not your sterile, generic hotel that you find in most areas – USA, Korea, Guatemala, Puerto Rico. This hotel has character. I like it. The room is comfortable, the bath tub is large, with plenty of space for you and a "friend", the bed is soft, and the AC makes sure you don't spend all night sweating for the wrong reasons. If that wasn't enough the staff is great, they smile, ask you how your day was, are personable, and are very helpful – again, better than even an expensive chain hotel/inn where you don't know them.

As an example, we arrived late in the eve, a bit after the kitchen had closed and they were more than willing to cook us up some good food to make us feel welcome and at home. That's service you can't get just anywhere.

Over the next few days we visited Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, a massage parlor (no clue what the name was, but. Very good massage. Yeah. Massage.), and spent some time in Livingstone's Bar. Each place seems to have it's own draw, atmosphere, and pleasure. From girls popping balloons with darts shot from their coochie, to girls with pig tails and braces.

I think of all of them I actually prefer Livingstone's Bar. I'm an easy going guy; like to relax. Going out for the spicier bouncies can be fun, but hanging back at Livingstone's, playing some pool and getting to know the hotties is more my style. And Livingstone's does have quite the cuties to hotties, and better yet they are all pretty nice!

That is the real kicker. I was ready for how pretty they would be, I was ready for how sexy they would be, I was ready for the shows, massages, and the like. I was not ready for how nice and friendly they would be. Not just "buy me drink, love you long time" friendly, but actually genuinely friendly. I'm sure that like women everywhere they have their own motives, but what I was expecting – the jaded street walker from a hard life, just wasn't true. I'm not going to go all "Pretty Woman" escort with a heart of gold, but I do believe that quite a lot of these girls are really nice people, that just enjoy hanging out and playing pool (though they certainly won't turn down a drink or 3! )

Anyway, I've got 13 more days to enjoy all there is to enjoy!

[The World]

flights are all sorted and i'm back to the lodge for one night just before new years.

as always, looking forward to it.

[Member #3428]

BTW, Tansak and 1Ball, it was nice meeting you two and I hope we cross paths again in the future.

Fox Two / 1 Ball / Ultrapilot,

It was very nice to catch up with you and UltraPilot and 1Ball. While we never really went out... Sorry to ditch you at Cowboy but the girl only wanted to visit the place and she quickly realized it was not for her... it was fun to catch up with some posters.

I think Giotto should plan an ISG event, set a date in advance, and see who all coud come in.

Will post up more on the trip later as I'm in transit now and had an interesting time in Manila.

Too bad to miss Traveller1234...

[Member #3428]

That surprises me, we had only very little problems with that system up to now. I have my card since a year, and it still works ... but I will check that.

anytime you get a keycard near my cell phone or my cell phone case it wipes it clean. too strong magnet in the phone, even just near it will erase my key cards for every hotel i stay at, including livingstones when i stayed there.

[Giotto]

To those old enough to remember those immortal lines from British Comedy please await the next installment.

Having knocked off the "rust" - yes I wholeheartedly agree their should be refresher courses for all returning Bestards - there is another 2 days of hilarity to recount.
...
Tamurlane26,

Let's make sure that the rust is definitely of - as you know the Vice President will pay for your activities as a guest lecturer for the newly founded "Livingstone's Bestards School".

Your subject will be: "Identifying buffalos"


Giotto

[Giotto]

It's now Wed morning and I'm 'pecking' away in my room. Been here since Sunday afternoon and been busy with work, entertaining business clients, etc. Also nursing a bad stomach - probably some bad Malaysian pussy.
...
Mr. Marketing Director,

Thanks for staying here - it was a pleasure for us, as always. Did not see you many times, you were always working, out early, coming back late. You are too busy, man, you need more time to relax - sometimes :) .

Hope to see you back soon.


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
Therefore Doctor G, you who have an intimate knowledge of Thai female culture and traditions, can you recognize whether there is a possessive danger here, or an opportunity to consider her as the “preferred lady” who makes me happy by fulfilling my sexual fantasies through sophisticated sessions? Could a Thai 150% sex-professional girl, who is very committed to her employer (the Tulip family), have feelings which may turn out to be problematic to me, or maybe this is simply part of a fine-tuned marketing strategy.
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SexWithSmile,

India - oh my god. Now I know why you will be back at the Lodge soon :) .

Reg. your possibly possessive lady - I would not be too concerned about that. Many massage ladies offer overnight service after their massage shop closes, and many also generate some additional income during their days off.

In general this girls are thinking too professional about their work and their relationship to customers - no problems should occur. But - many of those girls are sexually also frustrated, and if then they suddenly have a buffalo like you in their beds - they might be interested to have some satisfying good sex with you :):):) .

I would check it out - take her out one night, and tell her very clearly that you will stay with somebody else the next night - and watch her reaction. If your balls will be fixed at a Loy Kratong baloon during that night and disappear towards the dark nights sky - then you know that something went wrong :) !


Giotto

[Kanpo]

From the point of view of a complete newbie who will be arriving on Saturday and may have to revise his opinion at that point, you sound like you've certainly gained back considerable ground.


One realised as soon as 1Ball arrived that the embarassing episodes of the first night would be laid bare in the usual amusing fashion by the erstwhile scribe - our veritable Boswell (aka Giotto).

Therefore having escaped the misfortune of the first night by the skin of one's teeth one was determined to avoid another worse fate - knowing that the VP would be arriving in order to monitor progress.

So having had breakfast and Pops persuading said long legged beauty to accompany him to the Grand Palace for some temple watching. My own recommendation was to foray to the nearest photoshop get the photos done there superimpose the images and return to the Sports Bar as fast as possible in order to be in prime position for early booking.

Alas the Senior Member was having none of this so I was required to visit the temple. Now under such circumstances the best thing to do is request some divine intervention. This was being done by a very contrite Pops who then announced that he had some Buddhist music in the home country - perhaps this explains his ability to hit early home runs.

In the meantime Junior had relinked with an old flame from Van Gogh - who is now out of the game and was the subject of a very old post on Old Masters and a trip down the Soi with Giotto. To cut a long story short she agreed to lunch - and it appeared that the gods were shining favourably on the ring rusty.

Now the amusing part was not how long it took her to disrobe - room 115 you are a wonderful scene for these activities - memories also of the Duck in the same room and another long legged Linda ! But the phone calls she received in the room.

1. Before disrobing - "yes darling i will see you soon - but please dont take another girlfriend - that would make me so sad"

2. After the session when she admitted that the next day her regular financier was appearing and she had spent the morning preparing his flat !! He called not once but thrice to inform her he was leaving the house - had checked in and was boarding. Needless to say I must thank the airports in Europe as took the opportunity to have another bite at the cherry in between him checking in and boarding. These security checks are truly a blessing when you are tasting the fruits.

"Yes darling the flat is already and the sheets are nice and clean. Please dont make me cry when I think of you in the plane for 12 hours. But I will be waiting and and be ready - its so long since I had sex - I cannot wait for you"

Amazing - all said with a straight face and whilst lying stark naked in 115 with the Rusty Bestard trying hard to concentrate on not making another foray into the bush !

But does it end with the recovery - well almost. As one had some unfinished business in the Sports Bar. One cannot allow the challenge of being outsmarted to last for long.

So post a long dinner with Mr G and Mrs G - well the least i could do after that faux pas is buy the lady dinner. We retired to the bar - not before Pops had already disappeared down the road with the long legged wonder. He is thinking of the export market already however advised him that it was far more fun to return to the Lodge as then he would not upset the 70 year old girlfriend in the home country.

There espying Miss J being busy with another customer and determined not to fail twice as soon as said customer paid the bill - coast clear and within 5 mnutes - "can i bar fine you yes - no my girlfriend has left - (amazing how observant they are ! - perhaps should tell Mr G that all girls should leave the vicinity in the afternoon in order that we can enjoy others before returning to the bar in the evening.) We were off to the bed once more.

So all in all from the disaster stakes to 3 in 24 hours one hopes that this non-too shabby performance allows one to show that the rust was only superficial and having recovered from the comment from

Mrs G:- "your father is a real man - he knows what he wants and doesnt waste time" - ouch
Mr G - "are we going to Nana Carpark today or chasing wild buffalos on heat"
1Ball - "your father is impressive - pity you are not a chip off the old block but then again he is English" !!

Now the tale would end there but for the fact that Senior upon finding that the long legged wonder had the "red flag" did not surrender the initiative.

He was left alone for an hour in the lodge and promptly disappeared only to reappear at checking out time with a slow gait and a broad grin mentioning he had had a massage in the Soi.

What was not released information was that he had enjoyed the "Green Tea" massage and as he put it "she was a lovely little creature especially when bouncing up and down naked".

Truly a Bestard !!

[M P Lurker]

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But - many of those girls are sexually also frustrated, and if then they suddenly have a buffalo like you in their beds - they might be interested to have some satisfying good sex with you :):):) .
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G,

I presume you meant "hung like a buffalo" rather than "stupid like a buffalo" but I would be careful about using the word "buffalo" in Thailand as the Thais would misunderstand completely.
There may be a few Thais who read this Forum, so I thought they might be confused.

I got into trouble when when I compared Australian girls to "buffalos" and the Thais thought I meant all Aussie girls were stupid.
I was actually thinking that I like skinny girls who smell and taste nice and this was more difficult to find in Australia, (well certainly more difficult for girls of a suitable age).

[Tamurlane26]

Have informed the Senior Guest Lecturer that his services will be required again and he has most graciously consented to revisting the Lodge to impart the "wisdom of the ages" sometime in April. This is in order to allow him to restock on the vitamins needed for his short visit and in order to allow the memories of "green tea" to fade sufficiently in order to need renewing.

Additionaly it will be Singapore's loss as he has decided that Bangkok is a much nicer entry point into Asia - am not sure what was meant by this statement - and so like Douglas McArthur "he shall return".

To all those Bestards over the age of 50 he will be giving special classes in :-

a. Buffalo Spotting
b. Green Tea
c. How to be a Real Man
d. What Viagra is really used for
e. Speaking real English

additional classes can be provided on request.

[SexWithSmile]

Dr G,

You never fail to impress me with your advice.

I feel much confortable now, until I read your last paragraph of course.

I'll make sure to put my balls in the safe.

See you soon - SWS


SexWithSmile,

India - oh my god. Now I know why you will be back at the Lodge soon :) .

Reg. your possibly possessive lady - I would not be too concerned about that. Many massage ladies offer overnight service after their massage shop closes, and many also generate some additional income during their days off.

In general this girls are thinking too professional about their work and their relationship to customers - no problems should occur. But - many of those girls are sexually also frustrated, and if then they suddenly have a buffalo like you in their beds - they might be interested to have some satisfying good sex with you :):):) .

I would check it out - take her out one night, and tell her very clearly that you will stay with somebody else the next night - and watch her reaction. If your balls will be fixed at a Loy Kratong baloon during that night and disappear towards the dark nights sky - then you know that something went wrong :) !


Giotto

[SexWithSmile]

I hope that Dr G did not mean, talking about me, "stupid as a buffalo. ".

Because I must recognize that Dr G has never had any intimate relation with me (this being by total mutual agreement and never reached our mind), his assumption that I provided satisfying sex to these massage girls must simply be drawn from his best-informed guess, which I find deeply flattering.

Uff, only 7 days waiting here in India waiving my tail by myself against local flies because buffalo arrives to the Lodge.

PS: for anyone concerned about small cockroaches or mouses in Thailand, I can advise you that Mumbai is much better: yesterday, in a nice seafood restaurant, I saw a big. Black rat.

[Mackin]

Stayed at the lodge a couple of weeks ago. Was very pleased with everything. The girls at the desk ere very helpful, the food was good, and the rooms were clean and well kept. Enjoyed the sportsmans lodge and mamasan was what you would want in a great employee. Also liked the location. Once I was aquainted with the location it became very easy to get around.

If you are looking for a straight massage there is a great place across the street at great pcices.

Will be returning in the future as trips to Thailand will become regular stops on in my travel.

[Kanpo]

Diving in head first.

Tales of a Newbie in LOS

24-11-07

Greetings.

Of all the adventures I’ve had in my life (living in the Med for 4 years with my parents on a sailboat, being a monk in Zen Buddhist monastery in the U. S. For three years, etc. , etc.), this is the most I'll conceived, completely stupid, and exciting one I’ve thrown myself into.

As I write this, I’m sitting in a very nice room at the Royal Benja – a room that Guido and Guitto set me up with after a small reservation snafu upon my arrival (cudos to them for bending over backwards to smooth out the wrinkles), sipping on some veeery nice 18 yr. Old single malt, after a much needed shower. My first night. Prior to this, I found myself living in Southern California, the epitome of all that is wrong with this world, and feeling very unhappy. My solution, cut my ties and come here. For how long? Who knows. I have some money, and plan on running it to the end and seeing what happens. Maybe I’ll even stay.

I have been hearing about and reading about and looking at Thailand from afar for years. I’m Buddhist, and I get along well with the latitudes closer to the equator. And I do so enjoy the ladies. So, why not here? Dammit, I just want to. Life is short, after all. Upon making the decision, I began to peruse the various forums and sites, and came upon ISG and Giotto’s forum in particular. Livingstone’s seemed like the place to land for the first few nights at least, while I get some semblance of feet beneath me. So, I made my arrangements, sold my truck, situated my best friend and cat, and fled. I have fantasies about making a life here – completely uninformed by real life experience, but I’ve always been led by the nose by my fantasies, and it hasn’t worked out so bad. Given another shot at it, with what I knew at the time, I have no regrets for the decisions I’ve made. Let’s see how this one works out. A Grand Adventure indeed. I got a $400 U. S. One way ticket from mobissimotravel.com with no visa and one two hour lay over in Taipei. I intended to get a fully refundable ticket out of Thailand in Taipei for Thailand immigration purposes, but I spaced it after the grueling 14 hour flight from LAX (extended international air travel is way too fast for your angels to keep up with you, if you ask me). I highly recommend China Airlines for their punctuality and very accommodating service. You might, however, want to plan on not eating any food on your journey. Chinese concepts of Western food do not, if you ask my stomach, work. I had the worst omelet of my life and the most bizarre Italian spaghetti seafood dish one could imagine. Upon arrival, fiiiiinally, in BKK, I remembered I had not got the return ticket, and had hardly a worry about it. After all, here I was, with cash. What are they gonna do? Tell me to leave? I figured the worst case scenario would be that they would require me to go get a ticket. I filled out the forms, didn’t say mum to the rather attractive immigration clerk, and she stamped my passport without batting an eye. Even before passing through immigration, I got a very fair exchange rate. Got through immigration in about ten minutes, a fact that R (a great russian/american commidities broker I sat next to on the LAX – Taipei leg, whom I think you will hear more about) bemoaned endlessly waxing forlornly of the Don Muong days. He’s an old timer. Think I’ll be hooking up with him tomorrow evening. Then walked to baggage claim, where I immediately saw my big red bag being vomited forth from the luggage bowels of that behemoth of an airport, grabbed it, said my adieus to R, and headed out of customs, where no one even looked at me twice. I was beginning to get that I was no longer in Oz. I could write a whole report on what it took to pass security to get on the plane in LAX. God love (or not) Homeland Security. A few more steps took me to a lovely young lady holding up a sign with my name on it. I had previously met another old timer online, J, who hooked me up with a "guide" to help me get the lay of the land. A, is a highly educated, good english speaking, very affable young woman, who got me in a cab and off to Livingstone’s. After a pretty quick trip at 2 A. M’ish (perhaps a late arrival is recommended to avoid traffic), a security type person was right on top of the situation to help with bags at the curb, and A and I meandered into the lobby.

There was an understandable miscommunication, for which I take as much responsibility as anyone else, about my reservation (just be really clear when you make the reservation online at the Livingstone site when you will arrive). Both Guido and Guitto were all over the situation, plying me with beer and attention, as they had no rooms available, whereupon they promptly fixed me up with a good room in a good hotel nearby, paid my taxi fair there and provided a staff member to escort me, and promised me a room the next day, with an upgrade the following day. "Welcome to success", I said to Giotto, as they are now experiencing the problems contingent with popularity. Everything had gone seemlessly to this point (they didn’t even weigh my possibly overweight bag at LAX), and hell, shit happens, and you just gotta roll with it, or be unhappy. I try to choose the opposite.

So, hear we are back again, with the scotch. Watching the TV and plugging my 110 v laptop power source right in the room. I had passing thoughts about calling the guys at Livingstones to recommend a way to get my hands on a woman at close to 4 A. M. , and forewent that idea in favor of scotch, cigarettes, and a report to the forum. The first two channels on the TV were English. The first being a real life crime story about some poor sod who had had all the blood drained from his corpse, and then quickly on to BBC news, where I saw a report about a cruise liner that has hit an iceberg in the Antarctic. All hands had to be evacuated to open lifeboats. I’ve spent a lot of time on the sea, and I can tell, you I’m more than pleased that my fantasies have led me here, rather than the icy polar caps. Given the premise that "shit happens", why the hell would you want to put yourself in the most unforgiving climate possible? Go figure. Give me taxis and foreign volt conversions any day. Hear I sit, with a nice buzz on, not sure if I will be sleeping before the included breakfast at the Royal Bengal, (it’s the middle of the afternoon at my former home) and looking forward to checking in to Livingstone’s tomorrow and partaking in the party for Loy Krungthup (sp? ), and another escort around town with A perhaps with the company of R. I’ll have to give him a call.

So, I presume this counts for my Livingstone’s promotion report? Not that I’ll stop here. I’ve relied on a wealth of information gleaned form this forum, and want to give back. Next post. Getting into the nitty gritty (cowboy? Nana? ). Get laid or die! Looking forward to meeting some of you guys.

Kanpo

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[M P Lurker]

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...– a room that Guido and Guitto set me up with after ...
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What do you get if you crossed a Giotto with a Guido???

Well little baby Guittos of course! :confused: :D

[Stiffoak 571]

Diving in head first.

Tales of a Newbie in LOS
I’m Buddhist, and I get along well with the latitudes closer to the equator. And I do so enjoy the ladies. So, why not here? Dammit, I just want to. Life is short, after all. me of you guys.

KanpoI thought being a Buddhist meant that life may be short but with the option to repeat?

Hope you get lucky (er)

[Giotto]

From the point of view of a complete newbie who will be arriving on Saturday and may have to revise his opinion at that point, you sound like you've certainly gained back considerable ground.Kanpo,

Compared to your way of dealing with the ladies he is still nothing more than the real rookie :) ...


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
You never fail to impress me with your advice.
...
SexWithSmile,

Very Welcome !


Giotto

PS: Do all of us a favour and don't forget your balls in the safe :) when you leave !

[Kanpo]

What do you get if you crossed a Giotto with a Guido???

Well little baby Guittos of course! :confused: :DToo horrible to contemplate.

My apologies for "forum handle assassination", but if you're gonna put up one of these sites, seems like you'll have to accept a certain amount of drunk typing.

[Giotto]

...My apologies for "forum handle assassination", but if you're gonna put up one of these sites, seems like you'll have to accept a certain amount of drunk typing.Kanpo,

No problem at all. I know this Mick Licker a long time already, a real bestard. He spends his time in Soapy Massage Parlours and fucks his brain out - how can he afterwards write reasonable reports :) ?


Giotto

[SexWithSmile]

Back to the den after 11 months, and immediately felt home. Guitto even woke up at 6:00 am and was waiting for me to ensure that my early check-in went without hassle.

A short nap after a tyring night-trip from Mumbai (and an ever more stressing work assignment there), but I quickly recovered thanks to a good nap (one must stress out the quality of the beds here! no cheap matrass) and a totally glorious threesome at Tulip (I posted my report in the Massage Parlour thread).

Doctor G, can you please help me, where can I buy:

- protective knee pads: too much pumping hurt my knees, I can barely walk now;

- mint leaves or other aromatic herbs: it gives a good flavour while DATYing.
Time for a drink and a steak.

My life has a sense again, especially after too much time outside mongering paradise.

[Giotto]

...
Doctor G, can you please help me, where can I buy:

- protective knee pads: too much pumping hurt my knees, I can barely walk now;

- mint leaves or other aromatic herbs: it gives a good flavour while DATYing.
Time for a drink and a steak.
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SexWithSmile,

LOL, welcome back. I heard the turnover from Tulip will increase now, dramatically :) ...

Kee Pads: Try the sports shops in Siam Paragon and Emporium. And make a video and publish it somewhere - I want to see you in Tulip with knee pads...

Mint leaves / herbs - just go downstairs to our kitchen, they have everything you might need.

Good to have you back here.


Giotto

[Pak Mike]

A pleasant 2 nights at the Lodge this week. Late check in, no hassles, and a nice room. OK, its not 5 star (my usual haunts), but for the price VERY good quality and value for money, and good attention to detail lacking in many other places.

After checking in headed across to Soi Cowboy, checked out 5 Star for the rock music, but a little limp for my taste, so popped into Long Gun about 11:45. Great place, and of course one beauty took my eye. Had the type of body that really gets me going.... huge dark areolas and puffy breasts with a little droop, and a real pretty face. Took off back to the lodge, but unfortunately she was a big disapointment in the sack, so sent her on her way.

The next night checked out the Sports Bar at the Lodge, and was very impressed with the selection of gals. Sat with one very nice lady, but unfortunately I was totally shagged after a really hectic day so had to give her a miss and hit the sack for a good sleep.

All in all, a good stay, and am certainly keeping the Lodge in mind for future visits. A god feature is this is a place you could take "mum", as the Sports Bar is well separated from the main hotel/lobby area.

[M P Lurker]

Kanpo,

No problem at all. I know this Mick Licker a long time already, a real bestard. He spends his time in Soapy Massage Parlours and fucks his brain out - how can he afterwards write reasonable reports :) ?

Giotto
Giotto,

Unfortunately I am away from Thailand for another 4 weeks, so I wish I was fucking my brains out.

You seem to be very quiet lately.
Too many guests,
too many fucks, :)
too many wives,
or too many ducks? :D

Mick

[Giotto]

A pleasant 2 nights at the Lodge this week. Late check in, no hassles, and a nice room. OK, its not 5 star (my usual haunts), but for the price VERY good quality and value for money, and good attention to detail lacking in many other places.
...
All in all, a good stay, and am certainly keeping the Lodge in mind for future visits. A god feature is this is a place you could take "mum", as the Sports Bar is well separated from the main hotel/lobby area.Pak Mike,

Thanks for your report, and thanks for staying here at Livingstone's. Correct, not a 5 star hotel, but we really don't want to be a 5 star hotel.

Mum ... you don't want to bring your mother, do you :) ?


Giotto

[Giotto]

You seem to be very quiet lately.
Too many guests,
too many fucks, :)
too many wives,
or too many ducks? :D
...
Mick Licker,

Correct, the hotel has a high occupancy now, and there is a lot of work. And after nearly 2 years of writing in this forum I don't have so many ideas what to write :) ...

Times will change, and I will let you suffer with my reports again :) !


Giotto

[MilesToGo]

Stay at Livingstones pleasant, arranged by Guido during a visit to the Sports Lounge. Check in was prompt but my stay was only to be 2 nights before heading out for an early AM flight.

Room is definitely not the large scale hotel but definitely a homely feel to it; almost liken more to a guesthouse or bed & breakfast style without being overseen discretion. The linens on the bed to the teak floors are sure part of the warmth to the atmosphere.

Rolled into the sports bar, met by an array of attractive women, keen on a Ms N. Shared the usual pleasantries, promptly had my pants cleaned off (at the pool table), but paying of game afforded me the indulgence of viewing her great form as she slid over the table, clad in her fit form dress. An evening to indulge, no timeline, no worries we headed late into the night with some more drinks then over to Spice Club before retiring for the night (or 3/4am whatever that is). Went home both slightly under the influence due to the distillers finest.

Breakfast the following around 11am. Not the usual buffet layout, had a seat handed a breakfast menu, checklist style but only wanted coffee/toast. Served promptly with a nice French hand cut toasts and jam.

Off to do some daytime sights, returning afternoon for a shower/nap before resuming nighttime activities. Found myself over at Rainbows, brought back a real sweetheart, ready to card her at reception. Apparently the policy here is, I am totally responsible for my guest and if/should any issue arise there can be no follow up by having ID held, as many other hotels policy? Alls turned well, real GFE material, wish I did not have to leave so soon.

Required 6am wakeup call as requested. Checkout was effortless as payment was arranged beforehand. What a surprise though – full breakfast was already plated for me as I arrived downstairs, even though there was only 1 staff member visible at this hour. After a light bite, my gf returns from 7/11 with something for me. Reception has arranged a preferred taxi driver and has seen my bag to the street. Toll/tip in under 300B to new airport.

Thank you, Giotto and crew for the very pleasant stay and the personal touches. Will definitely return if I can be forgiven by Nancy for my incoherent use of the safety deposit box. If something can be done for the luggage (rack) in some of the rooms without compromising the feel of the room. I respect the quality of the bed linens too much to spoil them with what my luggage has endured.

[SexWithSmile]

Greetings,

Time to issue my Status Report on the ISG in order to obtain my good ISG discount – and show my perpetual appreciation of the Lodge.

Dr G. advised that the discount amounts to THB 1 per word, so I’ll make a long one. In addition, being an auditor by profession, I like to make detailed and objective analysis.

This Thread is full of reports about the Lodge, which in general show a very good appreciation. I won’t repeat my private experience here, just a few facts:

It is a small boutique hotel, with only 30 rooms. So you can’t compare it with the massive towers of 100+ rooms. Let us compare the 2 models – I know Dr G. will agree, as it is better to have satisfied customers instead of an over-supply of customers who are dissatisfied because they did not know what to expect:

- More expensive than some other places: this is normal, intimacy has a price as fixed costs must be amortized across fewer customers. However, have no worry that this is no tourist trap, and prices are totally justified considering the atmosphere of the pool restaurant and sport bar. I just say this so that budget travellers don’t feel uncomfortable.

- High season means over-booking, so I ended up in a superior room instead of Deluxe or Junior Suite I had requested. I must admit that my ego was first struck, and I had to sadistic satisfaction (being an auditor by profession) to see the poor Management running around trying to find me a better room (more seriously: simple satisfaction that Management cares about you). However, at the end I decided to be satisfied of my fate, for a short stay Superior Rooms are quite convenient: they are quiet, the bed is strong enough to support my wild threesomes (I talk about 3 normal sized persons), and they are as comfortable as other rooms.

- I can only recommend to Dr G. to have a more flexible pricing policy depending on the occupancy (more expensive during weekends, high season, cheaper during the week and lower season, possibly a dynamic pricing model like the airlines or large hotel chains), with of course massive fringe benefit for the outstanding ISG members who are loyal customers (like me). To all his honour, Dr G. is a bit reluctant, being a equalitarian person who does not want to be seen as an abuser.

- Everything working fine, and staff always there to help. You are not number here, but a person.

- Walls between rooms are sound-proof – otherwise my neighbours would surely have complained considering the high volume level of my threesome partners, especially one of them who screamed like hell when she was horse-back riding me in the arse and gyrating clock-wise.

- Compared to high towers, rooms have no views here.

- But you are right in the action of Soi 33, and don’t have to go down huge parking lots or even reception halls in order to walk outside the hotel. Also, you are not pestered by touts.

- I must apologize that this time I did not go to the Sport Bar. This place is my usual hang-out when I am here on business, so after long working days I just like to relax in a cool place, either for a drink with Dr G. nice conversation or looking for some company. But I am now on vacation, don’t have to wake up early morning, so I go more for some adventures.

- However, from my previous experience I can say that the Sport Bar is a many leagues above the beer gardens or the go-go bars. Hostesses are well educated, entertaining, well dressed, usually can speak decent English, and you will not look like a cheap Falang if you go out with them. Of course prices are more expensive than cheap joints, but justified in my view, and compare favourably with the Soi 33 scene.

Good, this reports makes 641 words, sorry I am still below my due discount rate, but I think I said everything.

Guys, I look forward to be back. It only took me half day to fall in love again with this country.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Giotto]

Due to some problems/experiences of the past few months we slightly changed the promotion rules for ISG members:

Promotion Rules: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=662806#post662806

The modification is related to promotion option no. 4, the upgrade for returning ISG members.


The Management
Livingstones Lodge Co., Ltd.

http://www.livingstones.co.th

[Tamurlane26]

Dear Pak Mike

Shall personally look forward to you bringing your mother in order that I may bring my father at the same time. However would hasten to add that in the case of the Senior Senior Member from the West Country that his preference,since visiting the Sports Bar, has gone down in terms of age range. He is no longer looking at OAP's unless they are over 25 and under 35.

He is however complaining of a stiff neck and was wondering if Giotto could send the nice sweet lady who gave him the "Green Tea Massage" from Soi 33 across at his earliest possible convenience or else he shall be forced - much against his will - to cut short his return to blighty in order to assist in his new course materials for the next semester.


Regards the Rusty Bestard

[Giotto]

We still have issues from time to time that the ISG discount is not directly entered into the invoice.

Please note:

- You really need to remind Giotto (alternatively the management) that you wrote the report and are entitled for the discount

- We cannot know all handles and guests, the length of the time you stay, check-in and check-out dates and the promotion option you choose

- Please don't be shy to remind us - if you fulfilled all conditions for the promotion you are entitled for that discount, and we really want to give it to you. But we need your support to get it organized correctly.

Thanks.


The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.

http://www.livingstones.co.th

[Giotto]

...
- High season means over-booking, so I ended up in a superior room instead of Deluxe or Junior Suite I had requested. I must admit that my ego was first struck, and I had to sadistic satisfaction (being an auditor by profession) to see the poor Management running around trying to find me a better room (more seriously: simple satisfaction that Management cares about you). However, at the end I decided to be satisfied of my fate, for a short stay Superior Rooms are quite convenient: they are quiet, the bed is strong enough to support my wild threesomes (I talk about 3 normal sized persons), and they are as comfortable as other rooms.
...
SexWithSmile,

Sadistic Bestard! Correct, we face a completely new challenge at the moment - guests coming in, requesting a higher room category, and especially at the weekends we are fully booked ... high season!

OK, let's build more rooms :):):).


Giotto

[Member #3428]

we are fully booked ... high season!

OK, let's build more rooms :):):).


Giotto


Congrats!!! Being fully booked... that's a terrible problem to have.

Wasn't the first name Timberland or timberlane or timbervti or something like that??? Maybe I've been to too many bars and thinking of something else. Soi 33 has changed a lot over the years but you're still there so congratulations.

[Giotto]

Congrats!!! Being fully booked... that's a terrible problem to have.
...
Tansak KTV,

The name was Timbevati Lodge at the beginning - long time ago.

We are just learning to deal with this level of occupation. Luckily it usually fills up a few days before - longer reservations make approx. 60 % occupancy. And then we get many request just last last 2-3 days before check in - exteremly short notice. The walk in customers then fill the hotel up.

Yes, we suffer a lot here in Thailand :).


Giotto

[Member #3428]

The name was Timbevati Lodge at the beginning - long time ago.

We are just learning to deal with this level of occupation.

Good to see my mind hasn't gone totally to mush and can remember some things. :)

Now just find out how I can watch tOSU play in the MNC Jan 7th :)

[SexWithSmile]

Following the occurrences of over-booking, the Lodge has implemented a win-win solution based on the great spirit of comradeship across the ISG members, by allowing them to share a room while enjoying the comfort similar to the First Class suites in planes.

A convenient curtain will split the bed in 2 part, still allowing ample space for 2- or 3-somes for each member, while providing the necessary privacy.

A small sign will indicate when the bathroom is vacant or occupied.

This allows to multiply the de-facto number of rooms by 2, and eliminate the risk of over-booking.

Rooms will be renamed 2A, 2B.. like in the planes.

As proof of his appreciation, the Lodge will grant a 3.5% discount on the rack rate.
Half of the Boss’ own room will be denominated the Presidential Suite.

Join us all.

[Giotto]

...
Now just find out how I can watch tOSU play in the MNC Jan 7th :)Tansan KTV,

Yikes, tOSU? MNC?

BUNDESLIGA! Championsleague!


Giotto

[Revcolinn]

"The name was Timbevati Lodge at the beginning - long time ago. "

Dr G. I am getting seriously concerned. Timbevati is an exclusive game lodge just down the street from me. Ok. Ok. 300 kilos away from me.

Where do you come to the African theme. Have you been or lived here. Are we related. Who knows. March will tell.

www.timbavati.com

The rev

[Giotto]

Revcolinn,

In the beginning I had a South African Partner...that's why we have this African theme. But he had spelling problems (Timbavati is correct)... :)

All the cooperation did not really work that well. So only the African theme is left, the partner is gone.


Giotto

[Giotto]

Following the occurrences of over-booking, the Lodge has implemented a win-win solution based on the great spirit of comradeship across the ISG members, by allowing them to share a room while enjoying the comfort similar to the First Class suites in planes.
...
SexWithSmile,

It is not that bad yet - it was a short period at the end of November, and we are back to normal levels of occupoancy now. Still rooms available on Christmans and the January - March High Season period.

As for "half of the boss room": Do I understand that correctly, that eg. if you take come here and we are full that you want me to share the room with you and your numerous playgirls???

Absolutely unacceptable, how can one sleep then :) ?


Giotto

[Revcolinn]

Hello Dr G.

Will the fact that your partnership with the SA guy did not work out impact on our budding friendship. We can be a bad bunch altogether but as some wise man said ' to generalize is to be an idiot".

I think it was another great universal mongerer and bestard called george bernard shaw.

One more thing. At last I worked out how to look at the photos and I am concerned. Most of the guys in the pics are young, fit, strong. I won't even go into size.

Will the ladies in the Sports bar still go for me. I am 175 meters. 8 kilos overweight. Blond with blue eyes. Or will I have to screw up the market and overpay them to even consider going with me. I normally have good self esteem but the photos have knocked me a bit. LOL.

The rev

[Giotto]

...
Will the fact that your partnership with the SA guy did not work out impact on our budding friendship. We can be a bad bunch altogether but as some wise man said ' to generalize is to be an idiot".
...
Revcolinn,

Hmmm...let me think about that. After that experience I have to be careful... :)


One more thing. At last I worked out how to look at the photos and I am concerned. Most of the guys in the pics are young, fit, strong. I won't even go into size.

Will the ladies in the Sports bar still go for me. I am 175 meters. 8 kilos overweight. Blond with blue eyes. Or will I have to screw up the market and overpay them to even consider going with me. I normally have good self esteem but the photos have knocked me a bit. LOL.
...Yikes,

That does not look good for you, the ladies expect at least lots of muscles, good shape and a look like Brad Pitt :) ... the bouncers of the clubs might not even let you in!

But - let's wait and see, there are the Sukhumvit streetwalkers and Nana Parking Lot girls around 3 am in the morning, experienced (50 years and older), ripe fruits (100 kg and up)...you will find something :):):).


Giotto

[Member #3428]

the ladies expect at least lots of muscles, good shape and a look like Brad Pitt :) ... the bouncers of the clubs might not even let you in! Giotto

:):) I must have snuck in then huh? Or is it that I have such great
"bahtinality" that they let me in?

[SexWithSmile]

SexWithSmile, As for "half of the boss room": Do I understand that correctly, that eg. If you take come here and we are full that you want me to share the room with you and your numerous playgirls?

Absolutely unacceptable, how can one sleep then? GiottoOnly Dr G. Would refuse sharing with my playgirls. Sob.

Look what you are missing:

1) They towel-dry you when out of the shower;

2) Number 2 swallow junior to the edge. It totally disappear; keep going for 5 good minutes, she still manages to moan through her nose.

3) Meanwhile play with Number 1 using a vibrator;

4) Number 1 got tired of it, pours K-Y on her ass, and rides you in her sodome entrance.

5) Meanwhile, DATY Number 2.

6) Cannot hold it anymore, traditional missionary of Number 2 while kissing tits and fingering Number 1.

7) Orgasm.

8) Rest.

9) Ready for round 2 (but actually, after 4 nights like that, no more round 2, just some last man-standing efforts).

10) Craddled in bed, Number 2 says "dodo na ka", and dream to be the sultan of the harem.

Anyway, it was a pleasure visiting you, and I'll be back. Always.

[M P Lurker]

Will the ladies in the Sports bar still go for me. I am 175 meters. 8 kilos overweight. Blond with blue eyes. Or will I have to screw up the market and overpay them to even consider going with me. I normally have good self esteem but the photos have knocked me a bit. LOL.

The rev
Everything sounds good except you are way too tall at 175 metres.:D
I was called a Giant at only 184 centremetres (and also 8kg overweight).

[1Ball]

Will the ladies in the Sports bar still go for me. I am 175 meters. 8 kilos overweight.
Rev, the only thing they care about is how far you lean to one side, while you sit, with your wallet in your back pocket. Everything else, is semantics.

[Giotto]

Rev, the only thing they care about is how far you lean to one side, while you sit, with your wallet in your back pocket. Everything else, is semantics.Mr. Vice President,

You don't even need to lean to one side...just hand over the wallet (well filled, of course)!


Giotto

[Petemcc]

Just to give you prior warning, I will be popping into your establishment sometime between 20 Jan and 20 Feb. I am only staying one night in Bangkok at a 800B/night with breakfast special place, so I can afford to visit your place and spend a few bhat just to check it out and review it, so don't say I didn't warn you!
55555555555555555

[Giotto]

Just to give you prior warning, I will be popping into your establishment sometime between 20 Jan and 20 Feb. I am only staying one night in Bangkok at a 800B/night with breakfast special place, so I can afford to visit your place and spend a few bhat just to check it out and review it, so don't say I didn't warn you!
55555555555555555Petemcc,

Ohh...that does not sound good. I think we will close down for a winter holiday from 19.01. - 21.02.2008 :):):) .


Giotto

[Petemcc]

Petemcc,

Ohh...that does not sound good. I think we will close down for a winter holiday from 19.01. - 21.02.2008 :):):) .


Giotto
That would be good as your girls would have to FL, and I could pay them the real price, 500 ST, 1000LT.
Cheers mate, tell them to hang around outside.
Pete

[Giotto]

That would be good as your girls would have to FL, and I could pay them the real price, 500 ST, 1000LT.
Cheers mate, tell them to hang around outside.
PetePetemcc,

Real Price. Dreamer! You really have no idea.


Giotto

[1Ball]

I could pay them the real price, 500 ST, 1000LT.
Pete
Hey Pete, can you please share with us where you find girls of Livingstone caliber for 500 ST, 1,000 LT in BKK?

Or any other caliber for that matter.

thanks.

[Tiger 888]

Hey Pete, can you please share with us where you find girls of Livingstone caliber for 500 ST, 1,000 LT in BKK?

Or any other caliber for that matter.

thanks.Pete is, I am sure still with his mind in Pattaya.

[1Ball]

For those of you who might be planning a visit to the sports lounge, and are a bit worried about how you look; maybe you are a bit overweight, maybe you are too tall, too short, too fat, too thin, too dark, too light, too blue, too pink, too yellow, or too green. Too bald, too hairy, too serious, too funny, too smart, or too dumb.

This is a small temple inside the sports lounge. If you look carefully, you can see what these lovely ladies are really praying for.

Quit your worrying, and come on down. Just bring a wallet. Make sure it has more than 500 Bt in it, as that will only get your balls licked by the stray dog that comes around once in a while.

Of course, the dog gives me a 50% discount, but that's another story.;)

[Petemcc]

Pete is, I am sure still with his mind in Pattaya.
True, and I'll be bringing a girl with me from Pattaya for my one night in Bangkok as I refuse to pay more than Pattaya prices for pussy. A pussy is a pussy and adding 2K to the asking price doesn't make it any better. So, assuming the bar is open, I'll be the one with the skanky ***** who you wouldn't touch with a barge pole reviewing the establishment.
Cheers
Pete

[Piper1]

G - please give Pete a couple of beers on my tab just to shut him up. He's an old nurse from Australia, and his complaining about a few baht is getting boring. And remember, he likes to play with his step-mother. That's just weird.

[1Ball]

True, and I'll be bringing a girl with me from Pattaya for my one night in Bangkok as I refuse to pay more than Pattaya prices for pussy. A pussy is a pussy and adding 2K to the asking price doesn't make it any better. So, assuming the bar is open, I'll be the one with the skanky ***** who you wouldn't touch with a barge pole reviewing the establishment.
Cheers
Pete
G, make sure you have plenty of that super strong skank spray, to clean up the place the next morning

[Petemcc]

G - please give Pete a couple of beers on my tab just to shut him up. He's an old nurse from Australia, and his complaining about a few baht is getting boring. And remember, he likes to play with his step-mother. That's just weird.

Twat, I've not posted for months, apart from the last few days, and it was my mother in law. I haven't got a stepmother.

I'll make sure to get those beers of you, thanks, any more such offers will be appreciated. Hang on, no, that way G will know who I am even if I leave the skank outside...let me think about it, keep the offer open, after all it is free beer, which I rarely turn down.

BTW I'm 43, is that old in mongering circles?

[Piper1]

Twat, I've not posted for months, apart from the last few days, and it was my mother in law.

I'll make sure to get those beers of you, ...

BTW I'm 43, is that old in mongering circles?'Twat' is the nicest thing I've been called all day - thanks.

Anyway, you were right, your mother in law was hot, and she screamed like crazy - thanks again. Make it three beers on me.
_____

PS - yes, a 43 y.o. nurse is too old for me.

[Petemcc]

'Twat' is the nicest thing I've been called all day - thanks.

Anyway, you were right, your mother in law was hot, and she screamed like crazy - thanks again. Make it three beers on me.
_____

PS - yes, a 43 y.o. nurse is too old for me.

Hey G, have you got that? 3 beers on Piper1's tab for me-don't forget.

Piper, she didn't scream as her husband was asleep on the chair downstairs and her daughter asleep in the bedrooms upstairs (3 storey house).

Finally, I wasn't offering my arse,and I wouldn't fuck a 43 year old nurse either, by choice, what I was getting at is that I am not old, per se, in mongering circles.
Love and kisses twatty
Pete

[Giotto]

...
This is a small temple inside the sports lounge. If you look carefully, you can see what these lovely ladies are really praying for.
...
Mr. Vice President,

Oh yes, I remember me sitting for hours as a model for the artist who made that phallus :) ...


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
A pussy is a pussy ...
Petemcc,

A few weeks ago I had a discussion about exactly this phrase in another board ... it is funny how similar issues pop up again and again. Somebody who really thinks like this is somehow reduced to his basic instincts, animal level.

I am not sure that the Sports Lounge is the place where you should go. There are much more suitable places for you in Bangkok, better for "only-pussy" selection and better for your wallet. If you contact Opebo he will share his knowledge about THB 200,00 girls on chinatown with you :) .


Giotto

[Petemcc]

Petemcc,

A few weeks ago I had a discussion about exactly this phrase in another board ... it is funny how similar issues pop up again and again. Somebody who really thinks like this is somehow reduced to his basic instincts, animal level.

I am not sure that the Sports Lounge is the place where you should go. There are much more suitable places for you in Bangkok, better for "only-pussy" selection and better for your wallet. If you contact Opebo he will share his knowledge about THB 200,00 girls on chinatown with you :) .


Giotto

You're not banning me from the lounge, are you?
It's not up for debate, but in all honesty mate, turn out the lights and a 3000B girl is the same as a 1000B girl, unless you gents know something more about the female anatomy than I do.

AND, unless I am barred, you better get those 3 beers ready on Piper1's tab.
Regards
Pete

[Giotto]

You're not banning me from the lounge, are you?
It's not up for debate, but in all honesty mate, turn out the lights and a 3000B girl is the same as a 1000B girl, unless you gents know something more about the female anatomy than I do.
...
Petemccc,

I am quite tired about this discount and price discussion.

We all have our budgets, and it is nothing wrong with that. But I cannot buy an Daimler if I only have the budget for a Honda. Why not simply accepting those easy facts and living in the environment that fits into our budgets?

There are anyway no "Pussies" available here at Livingstone's Lodge Sports Lounge.


Giotto

[Petemcc]

Petemccc,

I am quite tired about this discount and price discussion.

We all have our budgets, and it is nothing wrong with that. But I cannot buy an Daimler if I only have the budget for a Honda. Why not simply accepting those easy facts and living in the environment that fits into our budgets?

There are anyway no "Pussies" available here at Livingstone's Lodge Sports Lounge.


Giotto

Well fuck you and your sanctimonious attitude and overpriced everything designed to rip every **** off. Sure, some fucken knob heads will pay twice the price for everything. If a Daimler was twice the price in Bangkok as Pattaya, would you buy it in Bangkok? Perhaps, but the cunts will laugh at you. A woman is a fucking woman, her **** is the same, her tits are the same, she still pisses and shits. How the fuck you can try to imply that the prostitutes-yes, prostitutes that you have working in your bar are any better than a heroin fucked wh==e on the streets of Glasgow or something is beyond me and just hypocritical. Sure, you're a business owner and out to make as much money as possible, but that doesn't mean you can turn your mind off to common sense.
You obviously have the sense of homour of a brick. This forum is nothing but a sycophant's masturbation zone, everyone trying to big note how fucken good you, the place, and all the sycophantic lemmings are. Try venturing into the real world and read some postings on your place on internet sites who have no interest in sucking your cock, and see just where you stand in the scheme of things.
I just hope this post lasts long enough for a few to read and understand what fucked up little twats most of them are.
Now all applaude, because I'm fucking off.

[Giotto]

Well fuck you and your sanctimonious attitude and overpriced everything designed to rip every **** off. Sure, some fucken knob heads will pay twice the price for everything. If a Daimler was twice the price in Bangkok as Pattaya, would you buy it in Bangkok? Perhaps, but the cunts will laugh at you. A woman is a fucking woman, her **** is the same, her tits are the same, she still pisses and shits. How the fuck you can try to imply that the prostitutes-yes, prostitutes that you have working in your bar are any better than a heroin fucked wh==e on the streets of Glasgow or something is beyond me and just hypocritical. Sure, you're a business owner and out to make as much money as possible, but that doesn't mean you can turn your mind off to common sense.
You obviously have the sense of homour of a brick. This forum is nothing but a sycophant's masturbation zone, everyone trying to big note how fucken good you, the place, and all the sycophantic lemmings are. Try venturing into the real world and read some postings on your place on internet sites who have no interest in sucking your cock, and see just where you stand in the scheme of things.
I just hope this post lasts long enough for a few to read and understand what fucked up little twats most of them are.
Now all applaude, because I'm fucking off.Petemcc,

I hope there are some anger management courses available in Australia.

If you prefer Pattaya and the prices there - then there is really no reason for you to come to Bangkok resp. to Livingstone's. What is your problem?


Giotto

PS.: Reg. the girls quality: You really don't know what you are talking about. Simply nonsense.

[NicFrenchy]

A woman is a fucking woman, her **** is the same, her tits are the same, she still pisses and shits. How the fuck you can try to imply that the prostitutes-yes, prostitutes that you have working in your bar are any better than a heroin fucked wh==e on the streets of Glasgow or something is beyond me and just hypocritical.I bow down to you Pete, you are a real class act.

[Petemcc]

Petemcc,

I hope there are some anger management courses available in Australia.

If you prefer Pattaya and the prices there - then there is really no reason for you to come to Bangkok resp. to Livingstone's. Where is your problem?


Giotto

PS.: Reg. the girls quality: You really don't know what you are talking about. Simply nonsense.

I don't have anger management problems, I was merely being my usual pragmatic self. Unfortunately, international flights leave from Bangkok and because I am a cheap **** and use Tiger Airways, who charge an inclusive total of 2790 bhat single from bk to Sing, and they fly out at 8 am, I find it necessary to spend a night in BK rather than leave Pattaya at 4am.

Girls' quality!!With my educational background-double degree, and life experiences, I am as likely to get intelligent conversation from a Glasgow scag as a Bangkok prostitute. Dress her up in designer whatever the fuck, she's still a glorified farm girl who probably doesn't even know where Glasgow is. Fair enough, I only know a few sentences in Thai, but I doubt that a girl from your 'lounge' could carry on a meaningful conversation in English with anyone. So what's left, take the farm girl out of her expensive dress, forget talking about life the universe and everything because she can't, and what you have left is a glorified sausage skin ready to get stuffed. As I said before, a **** is a ****, and if you and your mates want to pretend that **** gets better with price, then I feel really sorry for you.
The truth hurts. I know I'm an arogant, cheap arsehole,and I acknowledge that, but perhaps you and your mates should realise that more expensive, especially irrationally more expensive isn't everything. A 60b bottle of Heineken tastes the same as a 300b bottle, only the second one is a rip-off.
Anyway, it's clear that you and your followers just can't see through smoke and mirrors, but as long as you are happy ripping people off, and they are happy getting ripped off, who am I to point out the error of your ways.
To your relief, this is the last you will hear of me, except my memory will live on for a few more posts as all the LDOPS make their pathetic and petty little comments about good riddance etc.
Sawadee
Petemcc

[Giotto]

I don't have anger management problems, I was merely being my usual pragmatic self. Unfortunately, international flights leave from Bangkok and because I am a cheap **** and use Tiger Airways, who charge an inclusive total of 2790 bhat single from bk to Sing, and they fly out at 8 am, I find it necessary to spend a night in BK rather than leave Pattaya at 4am.
...
A 60b bottle of Heineken tastes the same as a 300b bottle, only the second one is a rip-off.
...
Sawadee, Petemcc,

Once you switch on your brain again you will recognize by yourself what nonsense you just wrote.

Whether you can talk English to our girls or not - you don't know it yet, you have never been here. And whether there is a difference between the Pattaya girls and ours - you don't know it either, you have never been here. But I know girls from Pattaya and girls from Soi 33, and I know the differences. But - I agree, that if you are very lucky you can also find somebody similar in Pattaya.

Reg. you staying at Bangkok a well-meant advice: The new airport is quite close to Pattaya now, except if your flight leaves at Don Muang, the old airport. Then it will make sense to stay one night in Bangkok, but then close to the airport, and not in the Sukhumvit area. From here it will also cost a lot of time to get there during the rush hours of the morning.

There is nothing like a beer price of THB 300,00 here at Livingstone's. It is ugly to give such an impression to the readers. The beer prices here are on the normal level of this road, and even cheaper than in most of the bars in Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy. You should really write facts, and not get carried away by your anger problem.


Giotto

PS:
Reg. Ripping people off: You really have a problem. There is the State Tower here, on the top a bar were you can look down on Bangkok - a great view. A gin&tonic is about THB 300,00 there - is that a rip-off? Different places with different business models charge different prices!

[Stykler]

OK, fuck it. I will be the first. What the heck.

Petemcc - you are in need of real professional help. Do the world a favour and seek it out.

MM

[Member #3428]

What's with the hostility?

Personally I enjoy Soi 33. The restaurant at Livingstones is very good. The hotel is friendly and nice as well and costs less then many others in the area. The girls... well it's one of the top four on the street (soi 33) for me. We all have different tastes and what I like doesn't mean anyone else would like. So instead of attacking the lodge just leave it be. Personally I dislike many places that get rave reviews on ISG, but no use attacking them, some folks enjoy it so I let it be.

Peace and relax Petemcc.... The great thing about Thailand is we can all find what we like and enjoy. I'll probably be there when you are there, PM me and we can hit some places when you are there. And I will even venture to China town if you want as I enjoy it :) as well as 33.

[Rambis Youth]

Hopefully you won't read this because you've left the forum. I think the Lodge will be a much better place if you NEVER visit.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder, particularly with regard those those with more money than you. Get over it and stop bringing others down to your level.

[Tamurlane26]

now the whole picture fits ! here was the rusty bestard - ala sancho panza - perhaps i should also declare that am older than 43 (not that it matters as the senior member in my household is 73 and he is looking forward to his next visit and hopes that 1ball can educate him in the process !) - coming for a daytrip to bangkok and where better to have the first coffee of the day than livingstones.

now i had thought that the frosty air in the lodge was due to the stock market taking a pounding - now having read the charitable threads below i realise that the wry smiles were dedicated to our anitpodean cousin.

my only report of the days proceedings was that whilst the rust has been removed from the pool i fear that a large dose of hydrochloric acid will not work in my case. i did suggest to giotto that next time an visitor offended the house that hydrochloric acid would work wonders on their disposition or is it disposal.

so following the coffee and meeting with a sweet young thing you would have thought that a visit to peep inn was going to be in order. alas it was not to be and am considering requesting a downgrade in my status from jackson (kidding). try lunch, paragon for a movie - as expensive as london but the service was superb and those reclining seats and blankets were superb - only complaint why not make it a single reclining seat for couples or would that be asking too much.

from that debacle onto swensens for ice-cream - at this point i would kindly request the earnest member from uae and the member from bali to raise themselves from the floor for laughing - and back to the airport !! a peck on the cheek and i was despatched with the sword to retreat once more to kl.

please i beg the senior bestards to take pity on this rusty oik from the boondocks of singlishdom and assist in my re-education as quickly as possible before the member from the west country all 73 years of him returns in order to heap more calumny upon my already besmirched name - i do not dare use the word reputation here as it would merely add to the heaps of laughter.

now giotto you may replace the sounds of your laughter with a reasonable smile !!

but in all honesty - thanks again for an entertaining morning as usual in keeping with the finest traditions of the lodge.

[1Ball]

Piper, you and I need to take Tamurlene under our wing. Or rather, since you are chief Bestard, having managed to squeeze 3 noties in the bed of 114, (hope you bought a new mattress G, as 114 is now your little slice of heaven), I think you need to inform this sorry singlish Bestard when you plan on gracing Livingstone with your presence, so he may fly up (Tamur, do use Tiger air also?), and invest in a night of absolute disgusting, mind blowing, gooey, sticky debauchery with you.
If that doesn't cure him, let's feed him to the ducks !
:D

[1Ball]

Mr. Vice President,

Oh yes, I remember me sitting for hours as a model for the artist who made that phallus :) ...
Giotto
Actually, G, that is an exact replica of my member, taken immediately after The Duck drained me of all bodily fluids, during a pool party about 18 months ago.

[Giotto]

Actually, G, that is an exact replica of my member, taken immediately after The Duck drained me of all bodily fluids, during a pool party about 18 months ago.Actually, Mr. Vice President,

I remember that replica and all the effort to create it, some 1.5 years ago ... we couldn't find a sufficient magnifying glass here in Bangkok that time, so we took the camera and projected a picture to a huge screen...

Afterwards then, the result, I could only see something like a match - so the artist ask me to sit as a model to enhance it to normal male size. That was the moment when I understood why the Duck left Thailand.


Giotto

[1Ball]

Now THAT was fucking funny.
:D

a nice change from the ramblings of a mad man

[Giotto]

Now THAT was fucking funny.
:D

a nice change from the ramblings of a mad manMr. Vice President,

LOL, obviously some humour is left among the members of the Bestards board :) ...

OK, back to the subject.


...
Try venturing into the real world and read some postings on your place on internet sites who have no interest in sucking your cock, and see just where you stand in the scheme of things.
...
Petemcc,

Do me a favour and publish the links to those website that we can learn about the negative sides of Livingstone's, and that I can comment on those reports.
...

...
The truth hurts. I know I'm an arogant, cheap arsehole,and I acknowledge that, but perhaps you and your mates should realise that more expensive, especially irrationally more expensive isn't everything.
...
The truth sometimes does not hurt ME so much. Obviously you are an arrogant cheap arsehole, because you judge before you really know anything about the reality of Livingstone's.


Giotto

[Piper1]

Piper, you and I need to take Tamurlene under our wing. Or rather, since you are chief Bestard, having managed to squeeze 3 noties in the bed of 114 ...Maybe I should change my handle. I was thinking "FireStarter" would fit. ;) Maybe 'Chief Bestard'. Or maybe I should take the name suggested to me in a PM:

"... you are not just a twat, you are a big twat. I might even say you are "the Twatness".

How about "Och, Your Royal Twatness" (spoken with a Glasgow accent, like PeteMcc or Phat Bastard in Austin Powers' The Spy who Shagged me.

:)

[Sonic Bam]

Have stayed at the Lodge three times and been more than satisfied with the place and service each time. No reason to use the Lodge over any other place on or around Suk except that it fits with what I want from a hotel.

Anyway, thought I'd bite on Pete's challenge and search the hotel review sites. Found four of 5 sites that had different reviews (some reviews repeated on some sites). You know what, the reviews ranged from 2.5 out of 5 to 5 out of 5. No bad "I'll never stay there again" reviews found.

Just my sycophantic tuppence worth.

[Traveler1234]

Maybe I should change my handle. I was thinking "FireStarter" would fit. ;) Maybe 'Chief Bestard'. Or maybe I should take the name suggested to me in a PM:

My vote is for "Towel Pole" :D

[Giotto]

My vote is for "Towel Pole" :DMr. Marketing Director,

LOL! You cannot forget the old stories :) ...

Damned, we are trying to seriously flame a little bit here - can somebody please concentrate on this issue and support Petemcc kicking my arse?

It was so boring here in the thread during the past few month, and we all owe Petemcc respect for reanimating the thread :) !


Giotto

[Giotto]

...
How about "Och, Your Royal Twatness" (spoken with a Glasgow accent, like PeteMcc or Phat Bastard in Austin Powers' The Spy who Shagged me.
...
Pipeman,

Agreed, Royal Twatness is much better than Pipeman :) . May I suggest "Rip-off Pimp" for myself ... and "Piccolo" for the Vice President :) .


Giotto

[Tiger 888]

A 60b bottle of Heineken tastes the same as a 300b bottle, only the second one is a rip-off.
Wrong. The bottle is always 29 Baht (For Tiger, I don't know about Heineken, maybe 35) and the extra goes for the chair. It all depends how much the chair is worth for you.
In the case of the girls the quality mostly doesn't go up with the price. It's hit and miss in any price range. And it all depends what you are looking for.

[Giotto]

...
My only report of the days proceedings was that whilst the rust has been removed from the pool i fear that a large dose of hydrochloric acid will not work in my case. I did suggest to Giotto that next time an visitor offended the house that hydrochloric acid would work wonders on their disposition or is it disposal.
...
Tamurlane26,

Another act of "The Rusty Bestard", sending SMS about room availibility the day before and showing up in the early morning (then I sit there in front of my computer, pretending that I am working, but in fact I still sleep) ... and then? Nothing! Back home with the late flight. What kind of Bestardism is that?

Oh yes, the Swimming Pool. We are completely renovating it right now, I made some pictures about the progress. I was shocked about the rust on the tiles we discovered when the water was out of the pool. A few more days, and we will have a real Swimming Pool up and running again.

Thanks for stopping by ... but obviously nothing helps against the rust in your case :) .


Giotto

[Piper1]

It was so boring here in the thread during the past few month, and we all owe Petemcc respect for reanimating the thread :) !I agree - it's about time we had some intellectual debate here, and Pete is clearly a well-qualified intellectual:
With my educational background-double degree ...

Fuck you ...rip every **** off ... fucken knob heads ... cunts. A woman is a fucking woman, her **** is the same, her tits are the same, she still pisses and shits. How the fuck ... prostitutes are no better than a heroin fucked wh==e ... sucking your cock ... fucked up little twats ... I'm fucking off.I think I went to the same university as Pete, the cheeky old fucking knob-head cuntwat.

[Giotto]

... I think I went to the same university as Pete ...
Royal Twatness,

That surprises me now, I did not know that you went to university at all...


Giotto

[1Ball]

Yes, it is Cuntwat university, in East Fuck'n Knobheads, just north of Belgium.

His Twatness spent 12 wonderful years there.

;)

[Piper1]

Yes, it is Cuntwat university, in East Fuck'n Knobheads, just north of Belgium.

His Twatness spent 12 wonderful years there.

;)Cuntwat University. LOL. 'Cuntwat' actually sounds like a Thai word. How do I apply for a job at Cuntwat Uni?
________

Pete - I know you're not a bad guy, but you have a short fuse my friend. You also have a spider in your pocket, typical for Scottish knob. [Pete will know what I mean by that. ;)]. I sparked off your angry rant with a joking wisecrack - maybe you were drunk or stressed, or both. Happens to all of us. I make a point of never sending emails or making posts when drunk or overly-stressed. Please pop into Livingstones for the three beers on me. It's a genuine offer.

PS - G has a better sense of humor than you think, and I'm sure he'd be happy to meet you for a beer or three.

PPS - I'm having an identity crisis. My new handle will be "Your Royal Excellency, Sir Cuntwat". But my friends can just call me 'Cuntwat'.

[Traveler1234]

Mr. Marketing Director,

LOL! You cannot forget the old stories :) ...

Giotto

Mr. Chairman of the Board

As you know, I have a couple of 'unclaimed/unused' promotions from last couple of visits.

If you approve/agree, I would like to offer one of them to Pete, i.e. a barfine coupon B1000. That along with Towel Pole (aka piper1) 3 beers should make it worth his while to drop by for a visit. You never know, he might even decide to stay the night and pay for a room :)

[Giotto]

Your Excellency Sir Cuntwat, Mr. Marketing Director,

I want to express my gratitude to both of you for contributing substantial gifts in order to keep peace among the fellow mongers. After discussing the issue with myself for hours I made the decision to add a decent Thai dinner to the gift table.

Petemcc, we have now on the plate:

- a THB 1,000.00 voucher for bar fines
- 3 cups of beer (oh no, in January we can sell beer again, so we can take bottles)
- a Thai dinner for you and me

Just to avoid misunderstandings: We can have a dinner together, but you cannot bar fine me :) !!!

To all those who might think now that kicking my arse, accusing me of ripping off customers, flaming or leading non-intellectual discussions here in this forum will get you the same gift table: It's a clear No-No! And for all cheap-charlies who now might think that Livingstone's is THE place to go for them: No, it is not. No THB 60.00 Heineken here, and no THB 1,000.00 girls available. And for all those who are just looking for a "pussy" and cannot show decent respect to those women: Please stay away from Livingstone's Lodge!

I hope I got the message accross this time.


Giotto

[Giotto]

...Anyway, thought I'd bite on Pete's challenge and search the hotel review sites. Found four of 5 sites that had different reviews (some reviews repeated on some sites). You know what, the reviews ranged from 2.5 out of 5 to 5 out of 5. No bad "I'll never stay there again" reviews found.
...
Sonic Bam,

Thanks...I only know the reviews from Tripadvisor, can you please send me the links to the other reviews or publish them here in the forum.

Thanks


Giotto

[Member #3428]

http://www.planetholiday.com/hotels/asia/thailand/bangkok/livingstones_lodge/reviews.html

http://www.virtualtourist.com/hotels/Asia/Thailand/Central_Eastern_Thailand/Bangkok-1445238/Hotels_and_Accommodations-Bangkok-Livingstones_Lodge-BR-1.html

Plus one on flyertalk ...

HKtravellerApr 19, 07, 1:55 pm
A very nice German run hotel is also Livingstone's on soi 33.
Not as pricey, with an excellent restaurant around a big pool.

http://www.livingstones.co.th

For 100$ you get a junior suite with Jacuzzi.
Incl. breakfast and internet access.

Then you're listed on about four Bangkok sites kind of like ISG with lots of reviews but don't think Jackson let's us post those sites.


As far as petemcc goes you can add something for me as I'll be there in Jan and you'll know where to find me.

[Petemcc]

Mr G and esteemed gentlemen.

First of all I'M NOT FUCKING SCOTTISH! I'M FROM BELFAST.

Secondly, I would like to apologise for my behaviour. I can't help being a twat, it's the way I was born, and despite my education, I am an arogant arsehole. You can take the boy out of Belfast but you can't take Belfast out of the boy. Despite having a relatively comfortable middle-class upbringing, I was subjected to many traumatic incidents in my early years, and continued to face such incidents throughout a good part of my working life.
Long ago, I realised that although summary justice, in the form of a good twatting is a satisfactory and pleasurable way of dealing with conflict, it has consequences. I therefore turned to the written word to express my desire to admonsih someone for behaviour which pisses me off. I unfortunately rise to a challenge, and not usually when drunk, however I do most of my best creative writing while drunk, just it doesn't make sense!
As you will have seen, my postings weren't that creative and were the product of my not very often sober thoughts, nonetheless I accept that they were nasty and most probably not called for.

I don't understand why I am telling you all this, but I am, so I will. I am a pragmatist, so I tell things the way I perceive them without putting spin on them. If I think something is bollocks, I'll say so, and why. I try to deal in reality, or at least reality as I see it.
Another thing I learnt a long time ago ( from being a copper) is that sometimes one has to do something and fuck the consequences. If for example a police officer was not to arrest someone for fear of getting a complaint, or sparking a small scale disturbance, then the baddies would have won and anarchy reign. I don't mind upsetting people if I have to, or doing something ( as long as it is legal) and saying fuck the consequences. I'm big enough and old enough to wear it, and quite frankly I am comfortable living with it. I must admit though that as I get older I do feel slightly more remourse, but then again I put that down to my new career, rather than a change of attitude.

Anyway gentlemen, appologies if I insulted you too much, and I may take Giotto's offer up, however if someone could donate two more 1000B vouchers so I can BF him ( as 100 obviously isn't enough), I'd be obliged.

Regards
Petemcc (NOT SCOTTISH,OK!)

[Xdentx]

So I just read about the liquor ban. I arrive Sunday evening at 10 pm at the airport. By the time I get to the Lodge (I'm booked already) will there be any women avail? Help!

[Giotto]

So I just read about the liquor ban. I arrive Sunday evening at 10 pm at the airport. By the time I get to the Lodge (I'm booked already) will there be any women avail? Help!Xdentx,

perfect timing. When you arrive at the Lodge we can sell alcohol again, and there will be some girls, for sure.

C U tomorrow.


Giotto

[Revcolinn]

"Originally Posted by 1Ball

Rev, the only thing they care about is how far you lean to one side, while you sit, with your wallet in your back pocket. Everything else, is semantics. "

Thanks guys for all the advice about not having to worry abut how I look. My self esteem is restored to its previous healthy position.

But it is amazing how countries differ. I tried leaning to the left with my wallet in my back pocket in my home counry to see if it woud work here.

2 mins later when I needed to pay the bill my wallet was GONE.

Different strokes for different folks

Oh Dr. G. Did they ban the women from coming to the lounge as well or just alcohol. If so. Are there any of these strange bans coming up from the 17th March to 27th March when I will be there. Do they have days when pussy is is banned. I did not decieve, lie, spend a fortune etc to be landed with a BKK pussy ban.

One last thng. Can someone tell me how to get the blue border around other peoples posts.

The Rev

[Giotto]

...
First of all I'M NOT FUCKING SCOTTISH! I'M FROM BELFAST.

Secondly, I would like to apologise for my behaviour. I can't help being a twat, it's the way I was born, and despite my education, I am an arogant arsehole. You can take the boy out of Belfast but you can't take Belfast out of the boy. Despite having a relatively comfortable middle-class upbringing, I was subjected to many traumatic incidents in my early years, and continued to face such incidents throughout a good part of my working life.
Long ago, I realised that although summary justice, in the form of a good twatting is a satisfactory and pleasurable way of dealing with conflict, it has consequences. I therefore turned to the written word to express my desire to admonsih someone for behaviour which pisses me off. I unfortunately rise to a challenge, and not usually when drunk, however I do most of my best creative writing while drunk, just it doesn't make sense!
As you will have seen, my postings weren't that creative and were the product of my not very often sober thoughts, nonetheless I accept that they were nasty and most probably not called for.

I don't understand why I am telling you all this, but I am, so I will. I am a pragmatist, so I tell things the way I perceive them without putting spin on them. If I think something is bollocks, I'll say so, and why. I try to deal in reality, or at least reality as I see it.
Another thing I learnt a long time ago ( from being a copper) is that sometimes one has to do something and fuck the consequences. If for example a police officer was not to arrest someone for fear of getting a complaint, or sparking a small scale disturbance, then the baddies would have won and anarchy reign. I don't mind upsetting people if I have to, or doing something ( as long as it is legal) and saying fuck the consequences. I'm big enough and old enough to wear it, and quite frankly I am comfortable living with it. I must admit though that as I get older I do feel slightly more remourse, but then again I put that down to my new career, rather than a change of attitude.

Anyway gentlemen, appologies if I insulted you too much, and I may take Giotto's offer up, however if someone could donate two more 1000B vouchers so I can BF him ( as 100 obviously isn't enough), I'd be obliged.
...Petemcc,

Let me try to get this quoted report right. My English is limited, so perhaps I cannot read correctly in between the lines...and of course I also don't want to take all this too seriously.

It starts with a joke, followed by an apology, then some explanations of your socialization process, but then - a kind of justification of what has happened here in the thread, and finally some jokes again.

Assuming that I understood this correctly I would like to underline, that reg. Livingstones price policy there is no reason for "... sometimes one has to do something and fuck the consequences". You don't know me, you don't know Livingstone's, you don't know the beer prices and you don't know our girls. If you are going to "do something and fuck the consequences" then do it for issues which you can correctly evaluate, and may be also for issues which are more important than this small unreal world which is known as Livingstone's Lodge in this forum.

But that shall it be now, apology accepted.

--------

Your attempt to scrounge more vouchers to bar fine me is noted and reported to the forum administrator, who will hopefully send you to the Nirvana of the banned member for undoubtledly evidenced homosexuality :) !

The invitation for dinner, beer and a voucher (to be used for bar-fining one of our girls) sustains. Due to your Scottish orign we will limit the beer consumption to those 3 small bottles of Heineken (we will offer you some milk shakes later in the night), to make sure that you can perform sufficiently. I definitely don't want to get complaints of an unsattisfied girl next day :):) !


Giotto

[Traveler1234]

Petemecc:

Christmas comes but once a year.....Mr. Chairman of the Board has a great heart so don't be a scrouge and muck it up.

Happy Holidays and safe travels to all.

[Petemcc]

Petemcc,

Let me try to get this quoted report right. My English is limited, so perhaps I cannot read correctly in between the lines...and of course I also don't want to take all this too seriously.

It starts with a joke, followed by an apology, then some explanations of your socialization process, but then - a kind of justification of what has happened here in the thread, and finally some jokes again.

Assuming that I understood this correctly I would like to underline, that reg. Livingstones price policy there is no reason for "... sometimes one has to do something and fuck the consequences". You don't know me, you don't know Livingstone's, you don't know the beer prices and you don't know our girls. If you are going to "do something and fuck the consequences" then do it for issues which you can correctly evaluate, and may be also for issues which are more important than this small unreal world which is known as Livingstone's Lodge in this forum.

But that shall it be now, apology accepted.

--------

Your attempt to scrounge more vouchers to bar fine me is noted and reported to the forum administrator, who will hopefully send you to the Nirvana of the banned member for undoubtledly evidenced homosexuality :) !

The invitation for dinner, beer and a voucher (to be used for bar-fining one of our girls) sustains. Due to your Scottish orign we will limit the beer consumption to those 3 small bottles of Heineken (we will offer you some milk shakes later in the night), to make sure that you can perform sufficiently. I definitely don't want to get complaints of an unsattisfied girl next day :):) !


Giotto

Actually, there were no metaphores intended in my statement, ie the 'fuck the consequences' statement. When I use metaphores, they are so obvious as to not be metaphores. I am pretty unsubtle with my use of English. My thoughts about your bar etc have not, and will not change, and if anything should have been obvious from my post it was that.

I was not aware that a barfine included sex, I assumed that it meant taking an interesting comapnion out of the bar for some interesting conversation, therefore I am not sure where this homosexual thing comes from, I thought prostitution was illegal in Thailand.


I agree that this forum is not really the real world, and my attitude towards your prices and policies has not and never will change, however I accept that many people here hate me and disagree with my POV. However I am sorry for being a **** and will enjoy dinner and 3 beers, and may even buy you one, being FUCKING NORTHERN IRISH NOT SCOTTISH.
Regards
P

[Buko Max]

When you arrive at the Lodge we can sell alcohol again, and there will be some girls, for sure.
Just wondering, do the girls go home because alcohol is disallowed?

[Tiger 888]

...FUCKING NORTHERN IRISH NOT SCOTTISH...
Pete, where is your respect. If the moderator puts Belfast into Scotland, be it so.

[Giotto]

...
I was not aware that a barfine included sex, I assumed that it meant taking an interesting comapnion out of the bar for some interesting conversation, therefore I am not sure where this homosexual thing comes from, I thought prostitution was illegal in Thailand.
...
... being FUCKING NORTHERN IRISH NOT SCOTTISH.
...
Petemcc,

I realize now the differences of Scottish and German humor :) ...

Anyway - it is correct that a barfine does not include sex. And you definitely do not need to barfine me for a dinner. Furthermore specific forms of organized prostitution are illegal in Thailand. Having a dinner is not.


My thoughts about your bar etc have not, and will not change...
... my attitude towards your prices and policies has not and never will change...
OK, I am slow, but when you now mention this fact two times in one report even I get it.

Enough now, please don't come here.


Giotto

[Giotto]

Just wondering, do the girls go home because alcohol is disallowed?Mattrick,

No, the girls are working (most of them). But of course the general mood in the bar is different, the customers do not stay that long.

First there was the rumor that the bars HAVE to be closed, to allow the staff to go home and vote. But that turned out to only be a rumor, it's all just about alcohol.


Giotto

[Giotto]

Pete, where is your respect. If the moderator puts Belfast into Scotland, be it so.Tiger 888,

LOL. I just thought I could make Paris the capital of England.

Then I get killed, for sure :).


Giotto

[Tiger 888]

Tiger 888,

LOL. I just thought I could make Paris the capital of England.

Then I get killed, for sure :).


GiottoSince you are German you might get away with it, unless you start mentioning Berlin.