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Coyote79
05-14-05, 23:55
Here we go again, RearWindow!

My very first trip to the Cd. I was one Ave Juarez & I didn't even get to 16 de Sept before I met a cute little "Southern Gal". A lighter hair type from the lower part of the country - I forget where exactly but the moral of the story is it was 3PM, she was a food server and we spent that nite, and a few others, together with no monies expected. In fact she got pissed off when I suggested money.

She too suggested that the Mariscal area was no bueno!

Anyway - I guess everyone has their own talesAn attrative woman chose to have sex with you w/o you giving her money?

I haven't had that experience in years.

Cienega32
05-15-05, 01:43
An attrative woman chose to have sex with you w/o you giving her money?

I haven't had that experience in years.
AND on my first ever trip over the border (to Juarez, anyway)!

Cute thing about 25 that I met at a La Michuacana. Kept catching her looking my way while she drank her drink. Every time I caught her (or maybe she was catching me!) it prompted a shy smile from her. We talked, she went back to work, I went back when she was almost off and away we went! Each time that I've been with her sees very little sleep. More like naps interrupted by one of us "setting up" the other.

She turned me on to the "Melon" drink and I get it every time because of it. She also made me realize how much I love the Cd.

There's one or two other bar women (note - not girls) that don't expect anything anymore but, as I'm sure Mugroso would agree, I wouldn't steer anyone to them. Even I don't take them up on it, if I can avoid it. A little too drunk & wacky over time.

DreamingEagle
05-15-05, 07:49
I dunno DE - avoiding that part of town might be a bit much but avoiding anything walking & talking on the street might be right.

Yeah, I hear you. You can move around down there just fine, even at night, so long as you avoid the drug addicts, and that's really what we're talking about here, I think. The SWs are pretty much all drug addicts. They seem to live from day to day, paying for that $12 a day room and spending the rest on the crack peddlers who prey on them. I have to tell you my avoidance of that whole scene really has more to do with Dallas than Ciudad Juarez. I was a musician for 15 years in Dallas, and you have to play some pretty seedy places as well as the nice ones as a musician just to pay the rent. Whenever the scene is drugs you get that surrounded by vampires feeling, wherever it is, and there are denizens of the drug scene in Dallas who are tit for tat as wierd and unstrustworthy as any in Juarez. It was definitely the same sensation all over again the first time a SW got in my car. I'd just personally rather pay $30-$40 and leave that all downtown, the corrupt cops, the drugged out girls, the TVs, all of it. But that's just me. I'm a risk-averse old man now.

Cienega32
05-15-05, 14:23
As usual, DreamingEagle - wise words from a wise man!

I'm getting closer to that point in my life, as well, where those shady alleys just don't have the same appeal anymore. The little rush of adrenelene becomes overshadowed by concern for one's own welfare.

Living in Vegas since '81 I've found my share of back alleys & shortcuts, seedy bars & HO&MO-tels. I used to love it. Or at least my New York roots did. Now I avoid those things out here and am starting to get a bit fed up ( bored) w/ that type of adventure in the Cd. as well. The wanton disregard for other people makes it complicated when dealing or travelling thru those types of areas.

Those things in the Cd. had a certain appeal to me from the start, after getting over the initial apprehension of being in another country. Now it's just become bothersome in its own way. After my first adventure by Villa ManPort & Encanto area (nice steak, quiet drinks, massage, quiet drinks) I liked the difference. The lack of general "street harassment" was nice.

But as sure as I am that this "new area" will see me again, I'm sure I'll yearn for that seedy, look over my shoulder feel of the circus-shadows behind Ave Juarez. I have stopped checking on Club Panama only because of the walk back to the "main corner" by Queens, etc. Too much work getting thru the street trash & other characters.

The one thing that I don't think is too good is that I may have become too comfortable in that area of Juarez. I don't believe that's a good thing at all.

RearWindow
05-17-05, 01:44
Here we go again, RearWindow!
Anyway - I guess everyone has their own tales Claro! I am certainly not advocating the street scene. My comments are more a look back comparison from my travels to Dom Rep where ALL the chicas are basically SW freelancers. I'll stand by my post about that girl on Mariscal, but I also will say that I rebuff any offers from the SW's there as a rule.She was probably one in a lifetime.

Dinghy
05-18-05, 22:24
BBond - CHEAP Date?

Hell, for US $10k I can fly first class to Thailand and have enough pucha to KILL me. 8-)

And as for the other WAAAAY overpriced "excursions" - just remember - sure, it takes a bit of time to get there - and the language is a bit difficult (no worse than Chinese), but the benefits are WORTH IT. I'd rather go without than deal with US/Mexican pu-ying (that's "women" in Thai)

Bbond
05-19-05, 01:10
BBond - CHEAP Date?

Hell, for US $10k I can fly first class to Thailand and have enough pucha to KILL me. 8-)

And as for the other WAAAAY overpriced "excursions" - just remember - sure, it takes a bit of time to get there - and the language is a bit difficult (no worse than Chinese), but the benefits are WORTH IT. I'd rather go without than deal with US/Mexican pu-ying (that's "women" in Thai)

You can do that for a lot less than $10k.
I was just pointing out that there are way high priced women here, and I am sure there are guys that can afford to, and do, pay it. No way am I one of them.
$10k would get you 333 MP visits in Juarez.

Mugroso
05-19-05, 04:01
$10k would get you 333 MP visits in Juarez.

At one massage a day, that would make me one relaxed S.O.B. in less than a year

Azavi8
05-20-05, 02:49
I'll be passing through El Paso Tuesday night, May 24th, and thought I'd hop across the border for some action. I'm looking for advice on a good place to park and walk across the border, a couple of recent club recommendations, and a decent hotel to stay in (with company of course).

Thanks in advance

Dave #2
05-20-05, 04:45
I'll be passing through El Paso Tuesday night, May 24th, and thought I'd hop across the border for some action. I'm looking for advice on a good place to park and walk across the border, a couple of recent club recommendations, and a decent hotel to stay in (with company of course).

Thanks in advancePark at any of the parking lots near the Santa Fe Bridge. Shouldn't cost you more than 5 dollars. Then you can walk across the bridge for 25 or 35 cents.

Dave #2
05-20-05, 19:56
Thought about betting some money at the Sportbook place in Juarez.

How is the atmosphere inside? Do they serve alcohol? Is it a decent place to watch the games?

Thanks,

Dave

Bubbagoes100
05-21-05, 13:14
Having had many occasions to visit a good number of the massage parlors in Juarez, and also lived in Thailand for the better part of a year (and still here), my opinion is that there is absolutely no comparison.

Thai women, either girlfriends or rentals, have it way over Mexican women. Now I realize that I prefer slim attractive women that give service with a smile and have high levels of personal hygine, and I'm not a fan of fat bums, but I have NEVER had the level of service in Juarez that I have had in any place in Thailand, and I've traveled in Thailand quite a bit.

When I'm in the states I occasionally to to Juarz, but I'm usually disappointed.

Bubbagoes100
05-21-05, 13:44
I've been to many of the MP's in Juarez. I've lived in Thailand for about a year. There is no comparison between the Mexican women and the Thai Poo ying.

The Thai women are far superior in looks, service and attitude. No big butts either.
Period.


BBond - CHEAP Date?

Hell, for US $10k I can fly first class to Thailand and have enough pucha to KILL me. 8-)

And as for the other WAAAAY overpriced "excursions" - just remember - sure, it takes a bit of time to get there - and the language is a bit difficult (no worse than Chinese), but the benefits are WORTH IT. I'd rather go without than deal with US/Mexican pu-ying (that's "women" in Thai)

Adam Z
05-21-05, 17:03
Here's a couple of places that I checked out this week.

1. Picasso's Bar, it's behind La Capilla de San Lorenzo. Basically, take Triunfo De La Republica until it starts to turn to the right, then take a very hard left at the giant sphere on stilts like you're going to Autotel La Siesta. Then keep going straight and as soon as you pass the San Lorenzo church (you can't miss it, it takes up a whole city block) take the U turn on the left directly into the small strip mall. Nice place, very hot girls. Unfortunately, like the M bar, it's eye-candy only.

2. Mangos. Same as Picasso's, I think it's the same owner. The girls there are hot, but they're only there to serve you drinks. It's on Av. De La Raza & Montes de Oca, right where La Raza and Insurgentes split. Again, a good place to start a night with beers and eye-candy.

3. El Horizonte. Place is packed with ok girls about the 5-6 range, but there is one HOTTIE named Pamela. Beers are cheap and the place is more of a locals bar. Pamela will leave with you for $120 total (100 for her, 20 for salida). Pricey, but I'll bet you can talk her down, and she is pretty damn good looking.

4. Dia Y Noche. Downtown, and not the best bar, but there are a few good looking girls there who don't charge more than standard downtown girls do. A nice alternative to Queens and the other places.


Also, to answer the sportsbook question, that place is kind of a dump. Yes, they serve drinks, but they also don't keep the same odds as say Vegas. You will get better lines say at the Sportsbook in the Pronaf area. Also the place is 100 times nicer. Still, if you're going to be downtown anyway, you might as well. I place bets there all the time, but I wouldn't really hang out there.

Bbond
05-21-05, 18:28
I've been to many of the MP's in Juarez. I've lived in Thailand for about a year. There is no comparison between the Mexican women and the Thai Poo ying.
The Thai women are far superior in looks, service and attitude. No big butts either.
Period.

I doubt anyone would dis-agree with that, but Juarez is a lot closer.
We have to make do with what we have.

Cienega32
05-21-05, 19:57
Thought about betting some money at the Sportbook place in Juarez.

How is the atmosphere inside? Do they serve alcohol? Is it a decent place to watch the games?

Thanks,

Dave
The book right off of the Santa Fe bridge - the Juarez Turfclub - has the appearance of a "grungy old joint". It has a bar, a food counter, and a small wall of TVs. They pull their numbers from Vegas. As a Vegas resident, I can tell you that the numbers they pull are very close. A bit conservative but they can be that way in a few books in Vegas as well.

The TV area has your typical rows of "pencil benches" that you would find in a book and a couple of "conference" type tables in front of a TV or two. It's not a very big place.

I've never had any problems there as many writers speak excellent English and are more than helpful. The Parlay cards have decent payouts as well.

One thing to note is that the government takes their cut at the time of payout on any size winning. It's a very small cut but on my first ticket it caught my eye.

I've talked to a few book locals in there who have told me that the books on the other side of town are better in payouts & comfort. The plus for me with the Turf Club is location - a quick walk over the bridge.

Cienega32
05-21-05, 20:02
Having had many occasions to visit a good number of the massage parlors in Juarez, and also lived in Thailand for the better part of a year (and still here), my opinion is that there is absolutely no comparison.

Thai women, either girlfriends or rentals, have it way over Mexican women. Now I realize that I prefer slim attractive women that give service with a smile and have high levels of personal hygine, and I'm not a fan of fat bums, but I have NEVER had the level of service in Juarez that I have had in any place in Thailand, and I've traveled in Thailand quite a bit.

When I'm in the states I occasionally to to Juarz, but I'm usually disappointed.
As soon as they finish that bridge from the west coast to Thailand I'm there!

Espina Heart
05-21-05, 20:38
I doubt anyone would dis-agree with that, but Juarez is a lot closer.
We have to make do with what we have.Man, I can't drive to Thailand in 3 hours time. And the last "big butt" I had at a Juazoo MP was so damn hot she about busted my balls. Take your boatloads of cash and fly to Thai.

Got back down and totally, thoroughly enjoyed Geovanna once again at Europeos on Thursday. She is so comfortable with me now she even let me make her come, which she admits to me that she rarely lets her clients do. I have seen photos of beautiful Thai women for a reasonable price, but I'll take my hard earned cash and give a gorgeous woman a $25 tip (yes, $25, and she was worth at least $50) after mind-blowing sex, go grab a thick, juicy ribeye at Herradura, a beer and a brandy next door at Papagallos, contemplate a trip upstairs, but realize I've just had the most incredible fuck and I'm still walking 3 feet off the Avenida, and more might not be the best thing afterall, catch the bus, walk the bridge, humor the govt, and leave the border region having spent less than a hundred bucks for one of the best afternoon / evenings of my life. Give me the Cd. everytime. Everyday I can afford to get down there. It is truly paradise. Oh, I guess we'll do half ass with these large-ass muchachas just fine, thank you very much!

Spine

Coyote79
05-22-05, 06:35
Having had many occasions to visit a good number of the massage parlors in Juarez, and also lived in Thailand for the better part of a year (and still here), my opinion is that there is absolutely no comparison.

Thai women, either girlfriends or rentals, have it way over Mexican women. Now I realize that I prefer slim attractive women that give service with a smile and have high levels of personal hygine, and I'm not a fan of fat bums, but I have NEVER had the level of service in Juarez that I have had in any place in Thailand, and I've traveled in Thailand quite a bit.

When I'm in the states I occasionally to to Juarz, but I'm usually disappointed.I've never been to Thailand, but I think hispanic women are more attractive than Asian women.

If someone could build a big well-run operation in Juarez like the Adelitas Bar in Tijuana I think they could really make themselves some serious money.

Storm Rider #2
05-24-05, 00:07
Having had many occasions to visit a good number of the massage parlors in Juarez, and also lived in Thailand for the better part of a year (and still here), my opinion is that there is absolutely no comparison.

Thai women, either girlfriends or rentals, have it way over Mexican women. Now I realize that I prefer slim attractive women that give service with a smile and have high levels of personal hygine, and I'm not a fan of fat bums, but I have NEVER had the level of service in Juarez that I have had in any place in Thailand, and I've traveled in Thailand quite a bit.

When I'm in the states I occasionally to to Juarz, but I'm usually disappointed.One must wonder why, if you still live in Thailand (I assume BKK) and are such an afficionado for the "fruit of the vine" there, once again why, you are cruising the Juarez board if you prefer the SE asian poon so much. What is the old saying? "Me thinks he doth protest too much!"

Having formerly lived in Juarez for a number of years and having married one of their finest (formerly of Club Panama) (don't ask me who guys, you won't know her unless you have been hanging in CJ more than 7 yrs), and having spent my obligatory R & R time in BKK when serving our Uncle Sam, I must say I think you are quite mistaken. Besides,I had more of my friends contract social diseases that were FAR more resistant to medication than I ever saw in CJ.

On that note, remember to wrap it gents.

Dave #2
05-25-05, 03:15
Checked out Cleo's then Sirena. Selection at both places sucked so went to El Encanto. Selection there sucked as well but by then, I was tired so I picked the best of the lot.

Long black hair, on the thinner side with pretty big tits. Wanted extra 10 dollars for BJ so just moved on to the "main event." No kissing, various positions, then shower.

Pretty rushed service so I dind't even get a chance to get her name.

Any "gems" out there people want to share?

I'll probably check out Cleo's again tomorrow. If selection still sucks, I'll check out Luxxor.

Dave #2
05-25-05, 05:55
I usually just pay $3 or $4 and park at one of the lots next to Santa Fe Bridge.

I do notice that there are a bunch of parking meters near the border. How safe is street parking? I would usually need to park late afternoon/early evening.

Is it worth it just to shell out the $4?

Thanks,

Dave

Bbond
05-25-05, 11:35
Hate upselling, when you decline kinda makes you wonder if she will put forth a good effort, and if you accept, it's usually lackluster at best. Very few MP girls have any decent oral skills. Encanto used to be a great place, with the upselling, it now sucks.




Checked out Cleo's then Sirena. Selection at both places sucked so went to El Encanto. Selection there sucked as well but by then, I was tired so I picked the best of the lot.

Long black hair, on the thinner side with pretty big tits. Wanted extra 10 dollars for BJ so just moved on to the "main event." No kissing, various positions, then shower.

Pretty rushed service so I dind't even get a chance to get her name.

Any "gems" out there people want to share?

I'll probably check out Cleo's again tomorrow. If selection still sucks, I'll check out Luxxor.

Espina Heart
05-25-05, 14:59
Question for those who know. Is it cool to park in the $3 24-hr places by the bridge for 24+ hours? I've spent the night at the Villa M twice but drove across and parked there. After reading of vehicles stolen from there and the fact that customs spent over a half an hour taking my truck apart last time while I sweated, wondering if they, or anyone else for that matter, planted something, I'd rather not.

Cienega32
05-25-05, 21:48
Question for those who know. Is it cool to park in the $3 24-hr places by the bridge for 24+ hours? I've spent the night at the Villa M twice but drove across and parked there. After reading of vehicles stolen from there and the fact that customs spent over a half an hour taking my truck apart last time while I sweated, wondering if they, or anyone else for that matter, planted something, I'd rather not.

I usually park by the Santa Fe bridge in the lot just on the north side of the "cross-over park" that goes to the toll both. I've never had a problem of any serious nature and a few times I've come back the next morning (unplanned). I've seen a car (Miata ragtop) that was there for a few days or more - collecting dust in the same spot without any "changes" or anchors chained to it. Tho' that driver may have planned in advance as I see a few anchors from time to time. Sometimes when I come back at 3AMish the attendant will be sleeping.

I've read that the lot by the tracks is very attentive but have never tried them. Too far a walk for me...

I've read here that the Convention Center parking allows overnite.

I've also read that the VMP has 24 hour eyes at the booth of the gated parking across the street behind Sirena's.

EDIT: Ooops! I just re-read your post and the one I first mentioned charges by hourly blocks - 6 or 8 hour type charges - but does allow the overnites.

Dave #2
05-26-05, 01:05
Any suggestions on which Cuban cigars are worth buying in Juarez?

How much should I expect to pay? I don't want to get ripped off.

Thanks - Dave.

Bbond
05-26-05, 09:43
Any suggestions on which Cuban cigars are worth buying in Juarez?
How much should I expect to pay? I don't want to get ripped off.
Thanks - Dave.

Cuban cigars cannot be legally brought from Mexico to the USA. So be careful there. Also watch for fakes.
http://www.cuban-cigars.com/ has names and other info.

BorderJumper
05-27-05, 04:58
Cuban cigars cannot be legally brought from Mexico to the USA. So be careful there. Also watch for fakes.
http://www.cuban-cigars.com/ has names and other info.

One of the cons they will pull on you is to put Hondruran or Dominican cigars in a Cuban tube complete with a Cuban bandon them.

A good place I have found to buy them is either Sanborns or the lobby of Viva Mexico Restaraunt over by the free bridge.

I've personally found though that cuban cigars are vastly over rated. give me a good Macanudo any day!

Bbond
05-27-05, 05:13
I've personally found though that cuban cigars are vastly over rated. give me a good Macanudo any day!

LOL.....Macanudos are Jamacian.....sure that's not wacky tabacky?.....LOL...
c_c.com has them too......
MACANUDO (Jamaica)
Crystal Cafe $21.85ea 8 for $174.80
Hampton Court tube $16.50ea 25 for $412.50
Petit Coronas $12.25ea 25 for $306.25



With the vast difference in prices of Cuban cigars, a guy better know what he is buying too.. At cuban-cigars.com they range from under $1 up to $55 each.

ROMEO Y JULIETA is a brand I have either seen or heard of in Juarez, and they range in price from $8.75 up to $35 each at c-c.com

Just being Cuban is not a sure sign you are getting a good Cuban cigar.


COHIBA
Esplendidos $55.00ea....25 for $1347.50 (damn)
Siglo I $17.95ea....25 for $439.75

NO NAME
Exclusivos 50 for $32.75
Super Corona 25 for $54.00

and prices everywhere in between

Damn.Just noticed that all prices are quoted in CANADIAN dollars.
And cheaper prices can be found doing a google search.

Bubbagoes100
05-27-05, 05:48
Please don't assume that I live in Bangkok, in fact, I avoid it as much as I can. I also was also one of Uncle Sams boys that spent 5 days in Bangkok in 1969. I don't remember much of it though because I was stoned for it all.

I keep up the Juarez board from time to time because I've got to go back to states in a few months and want to know if there is anything good and new, but it looks like the same old broads. I'm sure that I'll be down there though, got to keep it functioning.

Theres a big difference here between the bargirl scene and having a thai girlfriend, but like hispanic women they can jealous as hell, in fact I've heard that Thai hospitals have a high success rate for sewing penises back on.

Bubba


One must wonder why, if you still live in Thailand (I assume BKK) and are such an afficionado for the "fruit of the vine" there, once again why, you are cruising the Juarez board if you prefer the SE asian poon so much. What is the old saying? "Me thinks he doth protest too much!"

Having formerly lived in Juarez for a number of years and having married one of their finest (formerly of Club Panama) (don't ask me who guys, you won't know her unless you have been hanging in CJ more than 7 yrs), and having spent my obligatory R & R time in BKK when serving our Uncle Sam, I must say I think you are quite mistaken. Besides,I had more of my friends contract social diseases that were FAR more resistant to medication than I ever saw in CJ.

On that note, remember to wrap it gents.

Dougie
05-27-05, 21:32
Question for those who know. Is it cool to park in the $3 24-hr places by the bridge for 24+ hours? I've spent the night at the Villa M twice but drove across and parked there. After reading of vehicles stolen from there and the fact that customs spent over a half an hour taking my truck apart last time while I sweated, wondering if they, or anyone else for that matter, planted something, I'd rather not.

A better bet, especially if you are going to be leaving your car unattended for a few days or a week is to park at the airport in long term parking. It is like $4/day and is extremely safe. You can take the bus downtown. I cannot remember the number of the bus that goes all the way to the terminal, the #33 I think, but it only runs every hour. Walk a couple of blocks south to Montana and hop on the #50 which runs every 20 minutes or so. Request a transfer when you board. The #50 will take you all the way to the 5 Points Terminal, you will then get on the 5 Points Shuttle to go down town, it runs every 10 minutes. The whole trip will cost you $1.15 there and another $1.15 to get back to your car. This is really practical if you want to leave the car for more than one day. Sun Metro now has a web site, I will try to find it and post it. All the route and time info you could ever need.

There are plenty of folks who will disagree with me but I will NEVER drive across the border in a car I own. Did it once, won't do it again. Hassles with the Mexican police and the US Customs make it more trouble than it is worth. Rental companies would prefer you not cross in their car, but if it is their car and Mexican police want to impound it or US Customs wants to tear it apart you can just hand them the keys and walk away and report it "missing" to the rental company. Fuck a bunch of driving MY personal car across the border.

Dougie
05-27-05, 21:34
Encanto used to be a great place, with the upselling, it now sucks.

Or doesn't. ;^)

Dougie
05-27-05, 21:52
Here it is:

http://www.elpasotexas.gov/sunmetro/default.asp

And don't forget to ride the busses in Juarez while you are there, they're a hoot. And they will get you where you are going for 1/10th of the price of a taxi.

Cienega32
05-28-05, 01:21
I'll vouch for the Juarez busses. I rode one or two on my last trip there and it was easy and kind of fun. Most are the old Blue Bird school bus types that I rode to school when I was a kid so I had the urge to hop out the back emergency door for nostalgia's sake...

I only took one to the Villa Manport from the Guerrero area but it was a breeze. 4 pesos. Friendly people, people hopping on & off selling candy or water. Pretty cool. I was a bit apprehensive prior but with all the tips and directions and basic routes I got from other members here I finally did it. I love it.

One thing I noticed that I don't see in the States and am glad to see: A couple, with their two children, were going thru the toys that they bought. While they were talking in Spanish and sharing the usualy smiles,laughs and frowns with the children over the toys, I couldn't help but look over and smile at the sight. Just a happy little family enjoying themselves. In America, most would avoid eye contact and act like "the stranger" wanted to snatch the kiddies. There - they smile back and say things like "Hola".

Member #2479
05-29-05, 01:41
For those of you that have criticized me for paying for GC strippers prices, now everybody has a chance to be with an ex Jocker club stripper for only $400 pesos, she is at Venus club, not sure if her name is Jenny but she will stand out in the line up, she has breast implants black long hair, she looks about 29, not sure if that is her real age. She has a pretty face she is voluptuous not fat not thin, I asked her if I could take a picture but she declined.

She told me she quit the jocker club because she was tired of the late shifts.

So there you have it a Stripper for $400 pesos. Thou I paid $600 pesos for half and half and I know everyone is now calling that Upselling.

Bbond
05-31-05, 03:31
I certainly wouldn't want to walk to Pink Lady at nite. I would have a cabbie drop you at the Villa Manport near there, or at the huge store at the corner (a few blocks north of the club) A funny thing happened maybe five trips back (last summer), I got a cabbie who had no idea where Pink Lady was. I thought he was bsing me, but he really didn't know, so I had to give him directions.Once there,I gave him 5 bucks for the trip from the Zona pronaf, and he just took off. Probably had no idea he could get a cut from the bar...go figure. ;)


The S-Mart on Altimiriano is the store just down the street from Pink Lady.
Walking from S-Mart to Pink Lady after dark can be a bit intimidating for the unwary. Martin works the door there most nights, he used to work the door at Panama, nice guy really.

Bbond
05-31-05, 03:53
Checked out Cleo's then Sirena. Selection at both places sucked so went to El Encanto. Selection there sucked as well but by then, I was tired so I picked the best of the lot.

Long black hair, on the thinner side with pretty big tits. Wanted extra 10 dollars for BJ so just moved on to the "main event." No kissing, various positions, then shower.

Pretty rushed service so I dind't even get a chance to get her name.

Any "gems" out there people want to share?

I'll probably check out Cleo's again tomorrow. If selection still sucks, I'll check out Luxxor.

My favorites are Genesis and Marylins, usually something in one of those that you will like. Genesis is very easy to find. Marylins a bit tougher, but not bad.
Check the ads in the newspaper, El Diario, too.

BorderJumper
05-31-05, 04:00
Jamaican? Who cares! They're not bad.

I tried some Romeo y Julietta cigarros in Juarez and wasn't that impressed with them.

Bbond
05-31-05, 05:22
Jamaican? Who cares! They're not bad.

I tried some Romeo y Julietta cigarros in Juarez and wasn't that impressed with them.

Just kidding of course, you didn't notice the "lol"s.
I don't do cigars, but know people that do.
Jamacian was just a jab at the wacky tabacky Jamica is known for. You can't import that stuff, legally anyway.

Bubbagoes100
06-01-05, 06:21
I've been away for awhile, exploring, but due to come back shortly. Has Dreaming Eagle finished or posted the "Mens guide to Juarz"?

Clydesdale
06-02-05, 01:18
I've been away for awhile, exploring, but due to come back shortly. Has Dreaming Eagle finished or posted the "Mens guide to Juarz"?

There's a site called ************** that's a pretty good guide.

Bbond
06-02-05, 01:53
I've been away for awhile, exploring, but due to come back shortly. Has Dreaming Eagle finished or posted the "Mens guide to Juarz"?

Read the posts here and ask questions. There are some pretty knowledgable and experienced Juarez visitors right here.

Kdog
06-02-05, 03:55
Does anybody know if the women working in the Juarez bars and massage parlors are required to pass a medical exam? I heard rumors that some women were HIV+ and working in Juarez.

Thanks in Advance
-Kdog

Cienega32
06-02-05, 05:00
Does anybody know if the women working in the Juarez bars and massage parlors are required to pass a medical exam? I heard rumors that some women were HIV+ and working in Juarez.

Thanks in Advance
-Kdog
If I remember right there's a "health card" of sorts but I would guess, like anywhere else in the world, and probably more so there, that money talks.

Espina Heart
06-02-05, 16:53
I tend to get verbose with email and these sorts of things so I'll try to keep it brief, but much to cover.

PARKING. Thanks to Cienega and Dougie on overnite parking advice. If I had planned a couple of nights I would have done the ELP airport parking/bus thing but I was only going to be there for 4-5 chicas, err, 24 hours. I liked the sound of the Civic Center garage, and figured I'd ask at the gate about overnite. Pulled in 16:45 Tues, gate open, no money taker, cones directing all parking to lower level. What the hell. Parked, came back up intending to ask the woman in the parking office off to the side of the entrance, but she was busy and I wanted to get the HELL out of Texas!!! So I figured again, what the hell, worst I pay a towing co. big bucks. Turned out to be safe 24-hr, covered, protected, guarded parking. For Free. SWEEEET!

NATALIA. Of Luxxor. Sweet, YOUNG thing, probably still in teens but I was so enamored I forgot to ask. Looks just like Anna (or Annaise), formerly of Luxxor, 6 or 8 months ago, so much so that she is probably her younger sister. Again, forgot to ask. Will somebody do that? Prettiest smile while receiving. Wow.

RAQUEL and Health Testing. Of Sirena. I've expounded on the merits of Raquel on the other (.com) side so I won't a go there again, but she told me out of the blue Tues night that she'd just been given a clean bill of health from the state-run doctor, who took blood, did a pap, etc. and that they are tested "fairly regularly." I've read here even from Dreaming Eagle that the health card was un gran chiste, but Raquel denied it and was very proud of her good health. Come to think of it, maybe it was only an excuse to avoid a BBBJ, but Raquel is my novia (her words) and is genuine.

Have to finish with a renewed appreciation for VANESSA. Of Luxxor. Most of you guys know. It is very rare to find a woman that is God's special gift to mankind, and she truly is. Compassionate. Beautiful. Runs her tongue everywhere. An ass to die for. She is working very hard on her english and desires to know how to converse in it outside of the cuarto de masaje as well. We all should compliment her. Daily. She is very special.

OK. I'll shut up now.

Spine

BorderJumper
06-02-05, 22:15
Just kidding of course, you didn't notice the "lol"s.
I don't do cigars, but know people that do.
Jamacian was just a jab at the wacky tabacky Jamica is known for. You can't import that stuff, legally anyway.


I know you were buddy. I didn't miss the hoss laffs!

DreamingEagle
06-03-05, 05:11
I've been away for awhile, exploring, but due to come back shortly. Has Dreaming Eagle finished or posted the "Mens guide to Juarz"?I don't think that's ever going to come to be, Bubba. One, it's too much fun making individual sites (www.luxxor-massage.com and www.sirena-massageparlor.com), and, two, www.worldcountries.info is turning out to be a real money machine and takes pretty much all my time these days. This will be the one that lets me finally quit the day job and move to Juarez permanently, or maybe Cancun.

Cienega32
06-03-05, 09:19
Great report & I'm glad to hear that the CC parking worked out. I've yet to try it myself.

How did you get to the border and back? I always figured that my knocking knees would make the walk back to much to handle.

Member #2479
06-03-05, 20:48
For old time sakes I went to the centro area.

Thursday nights Casa Colorada all fat troll skanks and a lot of 60 yo americans getting drunk to not see that they are fat troll skanks, a block away went to Lauras and saw the cutest face young girl her name is Paola and got instantly enamored with her. She is 19 yo ans he has the most beautiful young face but her body although skinny looked like she was pregnant or had a beer belly.

Went to chitos white apartments that from outside look upscale, but inside are the same filthy roach infested rooms found everywhere in the centro area.

Total cost to get paola to the room $40 plus $20 for the filthy room.

I just received a BJ from Paola because at the moment I was going to mount her doggie (because I wasn’t going to lay down the filthy bed) the impregnable but fume that all the centro skanks have just hit me, like she was a real skunk spraying her aroma to defend herself.

I also saw 2 putas that I fucked 10 years ago still working and was very sadden by the fact they where still working, one of them is Lucero that is now 37 and 10 years ago I barebacked in several occasions, and if in 10 years I didn’t get any disease I think I’m safe from those bareback sessions.

Some of the Centro brothels seem to be managed by some guy name Chito who’s Late Model Ford Expedition saw on the white apartments, that asshole is not maintaining the rooms so the are very filthy, and he is keeping the money and the sad thing is you Americans are making that guy rich by paying for filthy rooms.

Storm Rider #2
06-04-05, 03:10
Please don't assume that I live in Bangkok, in fact, I avoid it as much as I can. I also was also one of Uncle Sams boys that spent 5 days in Bangkok in 1969. I don't remember much of it though because I was stoned for it all.

I keep up the Juarez board from time to time because I've got to go back to states in a few months and want to know if there is anything good and new, but it looks like the same old broads. I'm sure that I'll be down there though, got to keep it functioning.

Theres a big difference here between the bargirl scene and having a thai girlfriend, but like hispanic women they can jealous as hell, in fact I've heard that Thai hospitals have a high success rate for sewing penises back on.

BubbaI certainly can relate to the jealousy issue. That's probably been the single biggest problem in my marriage. After a while I got so tired of it, that I decided to start hobbying again. I mean if I was going to get accused all the time, I might as well be guilty and enjoying myself.

Hmm, stoned in BKK? I bet we could exchange some good stories. I'm a little younger but not by much. Things were different in many ways back then.

Storm Rider

Cienega32
06-04-05, 12:50
For old time sakes I went to the centro area.

Thursday nights Casa Colorada all fat troll skanks and a lot of 60 yo americans getting drunk to not see that they are fat troll skanks, a block away went to Lauras and saw the cutest face young girl her name is Paola and got instantly enamored with her. She is 19 yo ans he has the most beautiful young face but her body although skinny looked like she was pregnant or had a beer belly.

Went to chitos white apartments that from outside look upscale, but inside are the same filthy roach infested rooms found everywhere in the centro area.

Total cost to get paola to the room $40 plus $20 for the filthy room.

I just received a BJ from Paola because at the moment I was going to mount her doggie (because I wasn’t going to lay down the filthy bed) the impregnable but fume that all the centro skanks have just hit me, like she was a real skunk spraying her aroma to defend herself.

Some of the Centro brothels seem to be managed by some guy name Chito who’s Late Model Ford Expedition saw on the white apartments, that asshole is not maintaining the rooms so the are very filthy, and he is keeping the money and the sad thing is you Americans are making that guy rich by paying for filthy rooms.Run a search on Chito. Not too popular of a guy who runs the girls at Laura's.

Paola was the name given to me by the cute 19 yr old a few months ago. Wonder if it's the same one. She didn't have any belly then and was clean. Wasn't skinny - more petite. The most luscious & firm little tatas tho'. Her friend had a little stank going after a while tho'.

I've never paid more than $60 for 2 of them and the room at Laura's. The key is to go early. When you see the chicas with wettish hair you know they just came from a shower and might be just starting for the nite.

Sun Devil
06-04-05, 16:31
Natalia and Ana are one and the same person. When she first started working there, she called herself Ana. Later on, however, she changed her name to Natalia. I have never asked her why she did so.

Although she still has a nice body on her, she has gained a few pounds. Perhaps that is the reason why you did not recognize her original self. If you did her doggy, maybe you will recognize that both Ana and Natialia have the same tatoos.

Coyote79
06-05-05, 01:24
NATALIA. Of Luxxor. Sweet, YOUNG thing, probably still in teens but I was so enamored I forgot to ask. Looks just like Anna (or Annaise), formerly of Luxxor, 6 or 8 months ago, so much so that she is probably her younger sister. Again, forgot to ask. Will somebody do that? Prettiest smile while receiving. Wow.

Have to finish with a renewed appreciation for VANESSA. Of Luxxor. Most of you guys know. It is very rare to find a woman that is God's special gift to mankind, and she truly is. Compassionate. Beautiful. Runs her tongue everywhere. An ass to die for. She is working very hard on her english and desires to know how to converse in it outside of the cuarto de masaje as well. We all should compliment her. Daily. She is very special.
SpineYeah Natalia is great. At first she's a little cold & always tries to upsell, but after 20 minutes or so she warms up & is very affectionate.
BTW she's 22 yo.

Isn't Vanessa that one with the black hair with red highlights?

She never seems very friendly to me.

I was told that she's cold during the session.

Another great one is Carla. Is she still at Luxxor?

She rushs you sometimes but is usually a great GFE.

She has one sexy 20 yo body too.

If you want a GFE at Luxxor, that older lady who's studying to be a dentist seems like the best bet (can't remember her name).

Coyote79
06-05-05, 12:35
Okay, the Coyote is confused.

The girl on Luxxor's website who's doing the pole dance name is what??
DE posted it was Vanessa, and WS6 posted it was Claudia, and even thought I was with her once, I just can't remember.

Either way, I'd avoid. She's COLD. When I was with her she acted like she was getting examined by her doctor. She's not bitchy--she just doesn't like it at all.
BTW, the skinny girl at Luxxor with the long black hair with red hightlights name what again? Appreciate it.

Mugroso
06-05-05, 18:27
Okay, the Coyote is confused.

DE posted it was Vanessa, and WS6 posted it was Claudia, and even thought I was with her once, I just can't remember.



I confirm that the dance pole girl is Claudia. I have my own collection of pics with her dancing on the pole. She is very lovely but as far as the cold fish attitude I am not sure what to say. I have spoken with her but never took her for a massage and she strikes me as a sweet girl. She probably hasn't dealt well with the nature of her job.

Next time have a chat with her, score points with her and save them for another day.

Mugroso

Coyote79
06-05-05, 21:49
Next time have a chat with her, score points with her and save them for another day.
MugrosoI don't think that would do me any good dude--I think she's a lesbo.

Seems like I remember someone posting that once.

Besides, I figure any girl who doesn't want me is a lesbo :-)

DreamingEagle
06-06-05, 00:58
We have a new photo gallery at www.luxxor-massage.com.

Espina Heart
06-06-05, 17:59
Natalia and Ana are one and the same person. When she first started working there, she called herself Ana. Later on, however, she changed her name to Natalia. I never asked her why she did so.

Although she still has a nice body on her, she has gained a few pounds. Perhaps that is the reason why you did not recognized her original self. If you did her doggy, maybe you will recognize that both Ana and Natialia have the same tatoos.Duh. I did notice the same tattoo. Its just that I remembered Ana as pretty cold and hadn't seen her in awhile and Natalia was very sweet. Caught her on a good day I guess.

Yes, Vanessa is thin with black hair with red highlights. Tiny titties, but has always been wonderful to me. Very gracious, very friendly tho' no DFK, very oral, and loves it hard. Great ass on a tight, soft bod. Wish I was there now.

WS6
06-07-05, 07:14
I confirm that the dance pole girl is Claudia. She is very lovely but as far as the cold fish attitude I am not sure what to say. She probably hasn't dealt well with the nature of her job.

Next time have a chat with her, score points with her and save them for another day.

MugrosoDon't think that would help. I had a good chat with her (in spanish), followed by mutual massages. She is very nice and sweet, but once you get to business, she's not there. Perhaps you are right about her not dealing with the nature of the work, but I tend to think the lesbo thing might be true:

I asked what the tattoo on her right thigh said. She told me "Alejandra", and said it was her real name. People don't tat themselves with their own name, but a lovers....

Dropped by Luxxor last week. Three girls in the line up, was about to give Natalia a try, when in walks Vanessa. Case closed. Outstanding as usual, she got a well deserved tip. But I'd still like to give Natalia a thorough going over sometime.

Coyote79
06-07-05, 17:59
Well since WS6 & Espina have recommended her I'll give her a shot.

I never chose her because Stuart said she had the same personality as Claudia, so I was like 'PASS'.

Have tried Natalia & Carla though. They're both great.

Pecker Will
06-08-05, 04:22
Just had a very nice session with V. She is very attentive and likes to please. Yes, that ass is one of the best around. One drawback albeit rather just a personal observation and not meant to be construed to include each and every ****** - she was not my "type". Could be a good friend but I love running into those who have a good dose of stimulating me emotionally as well as otherwise.

Now howabout Denise there? I almost went with her but went with V. Next time I'll try Denise. Any feedback there?

PW

BorderJumper
06-08-05, 13:27
Run a search on Chito. Not too popular of a guy who runs the girls at Laura's.

Paola was the name given to me by the cute 19 yr old a few months ago. Wonder if it's the same one. She didn't have any belly then and was clean. Wasn't skinny - more petite. The most luscious & firm little tatas tho'. Her friend had a little stank going after a while tho'.

I've never paid more than $60 for 2 of them and the room at Laura's. The key is to go early. When you see the chicas with wettish hair you know they just came from a shower and might be just starting for the nite.

Chito's a work of art alright. He owns Laura's and the white apartments you speak of. When he first bought them, they were in pretty good shape and he did a good business renting them to Americans (truckers mostly) who wanted to pretend they were living a great adventure in Mexico.

Chito is the neighborhood drug supplier. You want it, he's got it or can get it. This is one way he controls his women. Get them hooked on crack gratis and then he has them. The worst kind of of lowlife!

Not surprised you didn't enjoy your time with his "sister"!

Cienega32
06-08-05, 18:19
Chito's a work of art alright. He owns Laura's and the white apartments you speak of. When he first bought them, they were in pretty good shape and he did a good business renting them to Americans (truckers mostly) who wanted to pretend they were living a great adventure in Mexico.

Chito is the neighborhood drug supplier. You want it, he's got it or can get it. This is one way he controls his women. Get them hooked on crack gratis and then he has them. The worst kind of of lowlife!

Not surprised you didn't enjoy your time with his "sister"!
BorderJumper - I think that was for "Member #2479", no? I've never been to the White apts but my last trip there he was running chicas back & forth back & forth very hurriedly. Kinda funny to watch.

You can always tell the newer talent at his dump. 2 trips ago I went in there looking for this one girl who was outstanding (clean & eager) the last time I had - thought I would try for a repeat but she was gone from the coop. While I'm sitting there minding my own business, he drags this poor scared little girl over to where I was and gave her a ration of sh!t telling her to talk to the people. She looked like a doe in the headlites. Poor thing. She didn't want anything to do with any of it and looked like she felt trapped.

Gntlman Mongr
06-12-05, 05:44
I want to thank Jackson for upgrading my membership promptly and in less then a week. I look forward to contributing to this forum.

Gntlman Monger

Mugroso
06-13-05, 03:04
I want to thank Jackson for upgrading my membership promptly and in less then a week. I look forward to contributing to this forum.

Gntlman Monger

Fantastic to see you finally made it to this WSG board.

Mugroso

Gntlman Mongr
06-13-05, 08:03
i usually cruse by chito's place at least once each time i visit juarez. it is definitely true that the women that work there are very much into drugs. it seems more so there then in any of the other places. i have found a lot of his girls are into shooting drugs in contrast to the ones in the other clubs that just snort. they are very scary. he definitely has the scariest club i have visited in juarez. i have also found some real jewels there on occasion. i have found some very new and inexperienced girls there. every time i go by he seems to have different sisters. the turnover seems very high. i pick up one of his girls once in every great while and only if she seems very clean and new. i am not sure if he is taking advantage of them or they are taking advantage of him. they can leave at any time and usually do. i think there is something more insidious going on though. he seems to be outside on the corner most of the time and i have noticed a number of his sisters are not allowed in his club and just stay outside on the street. i wonder if some of his girls cannot pass the medical checkups and be legal to work in the clubs or maybe they are ****. i only pick up ones that are allowed in his club. so be very careful guys.

BorderJumper
06-13-05, 11:41
Had a call last night from a friend who lives in Juarez and uses Papa Smurf's shuttle to get back and forth from home to work etc.

Seems as if one of Papa smurf's employees got on the wrong side of Chito the other day and got himself worked over pretty good with a baseball bat by some of Chito's thugs.

Anyone hear about this? Gonna call the guy today as he is a prety good friend of mine also.

Health cards Gentleman Monger? what health cards!

Cienega32
06-13-05, 16:32
Had a call last night from a friend who lives in Juarez and uses Papa Smurf's shuttle to get back and forth from home to work etc.

Seems as if one of Papa smurf's employees got on the wrong side of Chito the other day and got himself worked over pretty good with a baseball bat by some of Chito's thugs.

Anyone hear about this? Gonna call the guy today as he is a prety good friend of mine also.

Health cards Gentleman Monger? what health cards!

Damn shame to hear if it's true. Hope your friend is OK.


Gntlman Mongr:

I think the health cards he accepts are the ones with Franklin on them. He might not have been letting the girls in the club if he got word of any kind of bar checking going down.

Bbond
06-13-05, 18:35
the girls not allowed inside because they have no id. chito once showed me a receipt for a fine he paid for having a girl with no id inside. it was for 14,000 pesos. yes, even younger fresh looking girls there are hard drug users, "h" mainly.


i usually cruse by chito's place at least once each time i visit juarez. it is definitely true that the women that work there are very much into drugs. it seems more so there then in any of the other places. i have found a lot of his girls are into shooting drugs in contrast to the ones in the other clubs that just snort. they are very scary. he definitely has the scariest club i have visited in juarez. i have also found some real jewels there on occasion. i have found some very new and inexperienced girls there. every time i go by he seems to have different sisters. the turnover seems very high. i pick up one of his girls once in every great while and only if she seems very clean and new. i am not sure if he is taking advantage of them or they are taking advantage of him. they can leave at any time and usually do. i think there is something more insidious going on though. he seems to be outside on the corner most of the time and i have noticed a number of his sisters are not allowed in his club and just stay outside on the street. i wonder if some of his girls cannot pass the medical checkups and be legal to work in the clubs or maybe they are ****. i only pick up ones that are allowed in his club. so be very careful guys.

Gntlman Mongr
06-14-05, 03:21
I don't believe much of what I see in Juarez and even less of what I hear. But I was in the Panama club years ago and some nicely dressed men came in and all activity stopped and the music was turned off. They went over to the pool table and one by one the girls went and got pieces of paper and went over to the gentlemen and after they went through all the ladies they left. I believe the Police are the biggest thieves in Juarez. If they could make money finding undocumented girls in the bars they would. That absolutely means that all things could be solved with money. So the ID cards do not necessarily mean anything. But it all comes down to economics. So if Chito has to pay extra for the girl to be in his club she will stay outside. I have also actually seen the cards in other clubs. Or what I think were ID cards. Like I said I do not believe everything I see in Juarez. I would also believe that Chito is absolute scum so be careful guys.

Gntlman Mongr

Gntlman Mongr
06-14-05, 04:00
i must admit that a certain amount of this is conjecture on my part. but on many occasions i have seen only some girls not being allowed inside. maybe he just wants those particular ones out on the street.

i have also had one of them spend quite a while trying to talk to me through the door of his club and when i asked she said that she wasn't allowed in and it wasn't because she was ****. draw your own conclusions.

i try not to believe to much of what i see. it would be easy to get it all wrong. so take all of this with a grain of salt guys.

gntlman mongr

Bbond
06-15-05, 02:33
i know chito very well, and have for quite some time. every time i visit juarez, lauras is one of my first stops, drink a couple xx beers, and check for any new young ones. most times it's a couple beers and i'm gone to the casa, panama, or pink ladies.
the girls w/o id are not allowed inside, except only briefly. they are allowed to use his rooms, for a fee of course, both adjacent to his bar, and across the street. some girls that i have seen inside were so hyped up they could not sit still for 5 minutes, so they go outside on their own. if you pay chito $50 for a girl and room, she might see $20 of that. no kidding.

once i went to lauras and there was about 20 girls inside, could not believe it. i asked chito what the deal was and he told me panama was closed so he allowed the girls from there to come into his place to try to make some money. i later drove by panama, and it was indeed closed.


i must admit that a certain amount of this is conjecture on my part. but on many occasions i have seen only some girls not being allowed inside. maybe he just wants those particular ones out on the street.

i have also had one of them spend quite a while trying to talk to me through the door of his club and when i asked she said that she wasn't allowed in and it wasn't because she was ****. draw your own conclusions.

i try not to believe to much of what i see. it would be easy to get it all wrong. so take all of this with a grain of salt guys.

gntlman mongr

Gntlman Mongr
06-15-05, 05:55
The ladies of Juarez have always told me that they are tested regularly and I believe in this as much as I believe in the tooth fairy. The only way that the ladies would be tested regularly would be if the Police had a financial incentive to keep them that way. Which is to say that the Police could be paid off as well. The only thing that I do believe in is that in Juarez, everything is for sale. It all comes down to economics as to what is worth believing. This is assuming that there is any incentive at all for the ladies to be tested which is maybe as likely the tooth fairy. Does anyone know any truth to the medical checkups and what does it take for them to get there ID card anyway. ? Besides Ben Franklins.

Gntlman Mongr

Mugroso
06-15-05, 13:23
The only way that the ladies would be tested regularly would be if the Police had a financial incentive to keep them that way.
Gntlman Mongr

Back when the Posada Indio used to be open about 10 years or so ago, I remember arriving early one day and no ladies were present. The bartender told me they were getting ready which was a lie, they were not in the bar at all.

5 minutes later they all showed up and walked in the front door waving papers with big smiles on their faces and giggling like geisha girls. They all then pulled up to some tables and ordered themselves beers in celebration. Come to find out they had been taken to the health clinic for examinations.

I don't think this happens anymore.

Mugroso

BorderJumper
06-17-05, 17:33
In the years I've been going to Juarez and lived there, I've heard rumors of the cards but no one has actually been able to produce one.

The ID's being talked about are probably the Mexican National ID card, the electoral card which everyone with a birth certificate must obtain when they turn 18. Without it or the birth certificate, the person does not exist in the eyes of the Mexican Authorities.

Logically, it would be very difficult to enforce a medical check what with the way the zona in Juarez is spread out and extends beyond the location in Centro.

In Nuevo Laredo on the other hand, with 99% of the activities confined within the compound of Boystown, it is easier to enforce as they have their own clinic right on the premises next to the Police station. MEdical checks here are done on a weekly basis on Tuesday or Wednesdays and girls must have the original pink copy in thier possession to be allowed to work

Bbond
06-17-05, 23:17
Anyway, the health cards would only mean she is free of any detectable STDs that day of the test, she can pick up and spread something between tests.

Coyote79
06-18-05, 03:58
About 4 girls working.

All looked pretty good & friendly.

Chose Perla, a tall thin 23 yo.

Had a GREAT time!

Not a GFE, but she would do most of what I wanted when I threw her a ten dollar tip.

Cienega32
06-18-05, 04:30
In the years I've been going to Juarez and lived there, I've heard rumors of the cards but no one has actually been able to produce one. I've seen one! A fresh issue at that. Honest! But I believe it was her option or desire to have it.

Kid03
06-26-05, 12:53
Guys,

I will be heading to Juarez this weekend. It's been a while since I have been there. May someone please let me know the best Massage parlours to visit. I will be staying at Villa Manport at Panama and De Las Americas. I will be driving into Juarez and know how to get my way around.

Thanks,

kid

Bbond
06-27-05, 01:31
Guys,

I will be heading to Juarez this weekend. It's been a while since I have been there. May someone please let me know the best Massage parlours to visit. I will be staying at Villa Manport at Panama and De Las Americas. I will be driving into Juarez and know how to get my way around.
Thanks,
kid

Villa Manport is located at Hermanos Escobar and Panama....

Sirenas is across the street, El Encanto is a short walk to the building where Papaguyos Bar is. I prefer Marylins and Genesis, but they are not real close to The VMP.

Espina Heart
06-27-05, 18:07
I guess stashing extra money in your briefs, etc., might just become a thing of the past now.

In case you missed it, this from the Associated Press in the 6/26 Albuquerque Tribune:

"Holy Cop!

Police in Juarez will receive spiritual training in an effort to discourage corruption and remind them a higher power is watching their actions, officials said. In the 'spiritual sensitivity' training, officers will meditate, pray, and hear talks by an evangelical pastor, said Ramon Valdez, a spokesman for the Juarez police. The police force in Juarez, a city of 1.3 million, is widely seen as corrupt and inept. The officers will work on their spirituality for two hours a day during 13 weeks and then move on to 'character training,' where they will be reminded of good values and priniples they may have lost, Valdez said."

Coyote79
06-28-05, 03:51
Four girls working again, but only Perla is cute.

Offer her $10 for kissing again, but she's says "no".

Says "no" to everything, even squeezing her butt.

After 10 minutes of hearing nothing but "no", I get pissed and leave the room & ask the manager for someone else.

The other three girls line up, and I choose this 30-something lady who's maybe a 5.
She's does make an effort to please though, and I ask her to do some kinky stuff so I can try to get myself excited about her saggy body.

Don't offer her $10 for kissing though, 'cause I don't wanna.

$35 fee + $10 for rim job.

Not a good memory tonight.

BTW, about 95 degrees tonight, and strangly humid.

Cienega32
06-28-05, 08:00
i guess stashing extra money in your briefs, etc., might just become a thing of the past now.

in case you missed it, this from the associated press in the 6/26 albuquerque tribune:

"holy cop!

police in juarez will receive spiritual training in an effort to discourage corruption and remind them a higher power is watching their actions, officials said. in the 'spiritual sensitivity' training, officers will meditate, pray, and hear talks by an evangelical pastor, said ramon valdez, a spokesman for the juarez police. the police force in juarez, a city of 1.3 million, is widely seen as corrupt and inept. the officers will work on their spirituality for two hours a day during 13 weeks and then move on to 'character training,' where they will be reminded of good values and priniples they may have lost, valdez said."

"the fine is $50, senor..."
crucifix clutched at arm's length, the gringo tourist screams "el diablo! el diablo!"
{camera fade to a crumpled up policia uniform; the dust rep001tering in the wind}

Adam Z
06-29-05, 05:31
Or not. Your mileage may vary.

Hit this bar called Eduardos and was surprised that the place had some decent girls. Took one out of the bar, but the waitress comes and knocks on your door maybe 15 minutes into my supposed half hour and the girl takes off like a shot. Avoid this place. The owner is a first class prick and the entire operation is a scam.

Also, got a pretty cute girl from Luxxor named Karina. Cannot recommend her at all. Probably the worst, and least enthusiastic lay that I have ever had. She has a very pretty face though. Just don't be taken in.

Did have a hell of a time with a girl named Anna at Loryed. She's cute, very busty and a little chubby. But she let me and a friend double-team her for 60 bucks. Pretty fun if you're into some kinky stuff.

Also, the pretty girl named Jovanna formerly from Marilyns is at the Masajes Europeos. No one else there is worth writing home about. But this girl has a tight little body and gives an excellent CBJ. She goes by Alejandra.

Mugroso
06-29-05, 18:33
Hit this bar called Eduardos and was surprised that the place had some decent girls. Took one out of the bar, but the waitress comes and knocks on your door maybe 15 minutes into my supposed half hour and the girl takes off like a shot. Avoid this place. The owner is a first class prick and the entire operation is a scam.

Adam

Eduardo's has always been a rip off joint. Perhaps I haven't mentioned it enough. Maybe the reason is they never had any real talent but over the last month or 2 they have improved which makes for a money draining combination.

Did you see that scamming rat Raquel there. That should be a good indicator the place is a rip off.

Mugroso

Espina Heart
06-29-05, 23:19
Decided to treat myself with 2 muchachas for the old birthday, and the cheapest place to do that is at Marilyns, which I hadn't been to in awhile. DE's coupon in hand, sweat pouring from me from the walk from the bus stop, Sergio welcomed me, had me sit and cool off a bit. Told him (in front of the chicas) it was my birthday and I wanted a doubledip. They all sang the mexican version of happy birthday to me (!) and then it was off to the back with Mariam and Vanessa, both very attractive and ready. (A hot, slow, boring Wednesday mid-afternoon probably helped alot here). Cost: 450 pesos with coupon!!!

Anyway, I told them that it being my birthday and all, I was hoping for the "special treatment," with hugs and kisses and lots of fun. And man, oh man, that's exactly what I got. Two total GFE's, they kissed and licked me head to toe, and gave me probably 10 minutes oral attention, both taking turns ball munching and sucking. My eyeballs have yet to roll back down out of the back of my head! We then fucked in various positions, switching back and forth between girls (and condoms) for a wonderful, slow and easy, long time. I finished doing Vanessa doggie while Mariam lay on the table below us licking my balls. Man I felt like a stud in a porno flick, it was so incredible. And I was there an hour and a half and no one bothered us, and they were fine with it as well.

Truly a birthday for the record books! I told them I'd be back tomorrow for more!

Can't rave enough about those two. Give 'em a spine.

Mugroso
06-30-05, 14:32
Friday evening I hooked up Kinky and Zootv at the park. We walked over and since it was still early we decided to hit Cleopatra’s massage for some warm up action. There were several cuties on duty this early evening. The guys fournd their lovelies and disappeared behind the curtain. I passed saving my energy for later. I don’t know why but whenever I wait in the lobby of any MP the remaining cuties go hide and the Member #2479 types ones stay and make eyes at me. Gotta give them credit for trying

Now those of you that have been with me know we start off at Las Palmeras and head up to the rest of the bars, then review the best places we saw and go back. Rarely do we stay in LP and Centro Lagunero. Not so this time, in fact we spent 2 hours at LP. Oh there were some lovely women. In particular Alexa and Karina and of course Claudia but we did not spend much time talking to her. Alexa was plenty to go around and go around she did. Pic of Alexa coming soon. Centro Lagunero was just as amusing as always, fatties in thongs.

Eduardo’s and Año Nuevo were doing pretty well. AN had more hotties present than usual. One lady was so drunk I thought she was being rude, pushing me out of the way but I did not allow it so the push turned into a fall and she almost wound up on the floor. Faustos was incredibly dead both nights, what a shame.

Queens has a new lady dancing, her name is Susana. A bit older but has an excellent body. Look her up next time you are in town.

Zootv headed home early so Kinky and I headed south for an afternoon massage at Luxxor. It has been quite a while. The only 2 that I knew were Erica and Claudia the rest were new to me. I chose Leslie. She was so hot in her red mini skirt wrapping her lovely ass. In the rooms it was a so-so massage but the condom in the mouth trick made up for it. She tried to get me off but I had to have that lovely ass bent over so I did just that. While showering and getting dressed she told me it was her last day there. Something new to me at Luxxor was the BBQ. Steaks were on the grill as we arrived.

We got to Centro for a bite to eat at Tacos Lucas then hit the bars. On the way to Palmeras we ran into Adrian’s cousin. We arrived at LP and no Alexa or Claudia. Karina was there looking so adorable. Not much else to keep us.

At the Año Nuevo Kinky hooked up with Lydia and went upstairs. I won’t say much else about that. But me and Adrian’s cousin started to get worried. He was gone for more than half an hour. I went outside to check but that is when he walked out. 50 minutes in all, now that’s a hell of a deal. Details? Only he can tell.

We then went over to Las Vegas Bar and Adrian’s cousin was immediately snagged up by Alexis. He was enamored by her charms and insisted on taking her to the room against my best advise. You see, I took Alexis to the balcony recently for an over the table bang. In short a lame lay. When he returned he had this, “you told me so” look on his face. He said it was horrible. She was real playful until she hit the bed. She would not let him touch her where he wanted, she rushed him and basically really put him down. Alexis, not recommended.

Mugroso

Mugroso
06-30-05, 14:34
Anyway, I told them that it being my birthday and all, I was hoping for the "special treatment," with hugs and kisses and lots of fun. And man, oh man, that's exactly what I got. Two total GFE's,

My B-day isn't till November but maybe I should bump it up a little.

Mugroso

Storm Rider #2
06-30-05, 21:40
"the fine is $50, senor..."
crucifix clutched at arm's length, the gringo tourist screams "el diablo! el diablo!"
{camera fade to a crumpled up policia uniform; the dust rep001tering in the wind}you must have pissed off "las sanguijuelas" mightily for a fine so high. i don't ever think i've had to give them more than 20 bucks in one shot. lots of times a ten was sufficiant. shoot, that will buy them a good dinner and more.

storm rider

Cienega32
07-01-05, 21:27
You must have pissed off "las sanguijuelas" mightily for a fine so high. I don't ever think I've had to give them more than 20 bucks in one shot. Lots of times a ten was sufficiant. Shoot, that will buy them a GOOD dinner and more.

Storm Rider

Let's not forget that this is in the future after the "Spiritual Sensitivity" training has kicked in and the higher order is in place.

Coyote79
07-02-05, 15:06
I headed south for an afternoon massage at Luxxor. It has been quite a while. The only 2 that I knew were Erica and Claudia the rest were new to me. I chose Leslie. She was so hot in her red mini skirt
MugrosoHow are the new girls?

I was going to try Erica, but Claudia is a cold fish lesbo.

Minthinkha
07-03-05, 05:38
Guys,

I will be heading to Juarez this weekend. It's been a while since I have been there. May someone please let me know the best Massage parlours to visit. I will be staying at Villa Manport at Panama and De Las Americas. I will be driving into Juarez and know how to get my way around.

Thanks,

kidMy info is a litlle late, by a few months, because I did not have posting privileges before. Have fun.

http://pg.******************/ph/minthinkha/album?.dir=/ef50

Minthinkha
07-03-05, 05:51
Guys,

I will be heading to Juarez this weekend. It's been a while since I have been there. May someone please let me know the best Massage parlours to visit. I will be staying at Villa Manport at Panama and De Las Americas. I will be driving into Juarez and know how to get my way around.

Thanks,

kidHere are the links for better resolution; I was having a hard time uploading these maps directly onto this forum. Pls note that these maps had been posted by someone else before; but I did fill in where MPs are :)

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Coyote79
07-05-05, 02:15
Here are the links for better resolution; I was having a hard time uploading these maps directly onto this forum. Pls note that these maps had been posted by someone else before; but I did fill in where MPs are :)

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thanks dude but most of the links are broken

Toni Ten
07-06-05, 01:25
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugroso

I headed south for an afternoon massage at Luxxor. It has been quite a while. The only 2 that I knew were Erica and Claudia the rest were new to me. I chose Leslie. She was so hot in her red mini skirt

Mugroso

How are the new girls?

I was going to try Erica, but Claudia is a cold fish lesbo.

No Sir, rocked my world and cute too! shhh.

TT

WS6
07-06-05, 07:26
Quote:
I was going to try Erica, but Claudia is a cold fish lesbo.

No Sir, rocked my world and cute too! shhh.

TTMaybe Claudia figured out she couldn't get by on just looks, or perhaps she was just too new before.

Heads up! I popped by Luxxor tonight around 8:30 pm. There was some young guy there telling me "only 30 minutes" in bad english. I ask him "solamente media hora?" He tells me they have been taking heat from inspectors for staying open past 9 pm. Supposedly so have other massages (anyone hear anything on this?).

Not only that, they have been checking for booze too, so when they hear inspectors are on the way, they have to hide everything. There was only one girl, who was ok, but the prospect of having to rush through a visit (by this time it was 25 to 9) was unappealing, so hasta la vista.

So if you are planning a visit to the massages, you better show up by 8 if you want your full hour. At least till this blows over, i.e., someone crosses the right palm with the right amount.

Espina Heart
07-06-05, 18:42
Headed across the bridge yesterday needing a Vanessa fix. Vanessa de Luxxor that is. Well, she wasn't there, and although their was 6 lovelies smiling up at me from the couches, AND Claudia-pole dancer who glanced at me and practically grimaced (she definitely is one cold can of tuna as far as I can tell), I decided to go cool off with a 10-peso beer at Viejo Oeste, ogle the eye candy there, and think about options.

Decided to look in at Masaje Felina before going back to Luxxor. Small place (2 rooms - 2 or 3 chicas) which rarely receives any good pixels on this board since the departure of Cristal a year or so ago (probably largely due to Karina, a thin, bleached blonde with great tits and an atitude to rival the aforementioned Claudia). But the madam who runs the place is very sweet and tries hard to please. Anyway, a very cute but shy chica, Vanessa, was introduced (along with Karina whom I ignored). No smile, eyes on floor. I agreed because it was a nice looking ass and a sweet face, but I wasn't expecting much.

She was Wonderful! Turned out that she's only been in Juarez for a month, spoke no english whatsoever, and was nervous around gringos. I was able to make her comfortable with my bad spanish and she opened like a flower, so very sweet. A passionate kisser. Even agreed to a BBBJ, which nowadays in Juarez is as common as a blizzard it seems! Most pleasantly, though with an unexpectant twist, I was thoroughly sated with my need for (a) Vanessa!

Storm Rider #2
07-06-05, 21:17
Let's not forget that this is in the future after the "Spiritual Sensitivity" training has kicked in and the higher order is in place.

This really doesn't have much to do with this thread, but it's a funny thing that happened when I was living in Col. Bellavista.

My wife and I were tooling along in my car going west past the cathedral when I got pulled over for a seat belt violation. (Yeah right, I got pulled over for my gabacho license plates.) I had a couple of Bens in my pcket but a 50 peso note in my pocket.

We go through the whole " Tu pagaras la multa para yo, si?" thing and he tells me it's 200 pesos. I tell him and show him the 50 that I have and tell "No tengo mas.", when my son, being the honest kid I raised him to be, says, "Tienes doscientos dolares en tu bolsa tambien, papa, no te recuerdas?"

After I considered strangling him in spite of my affection for him, I realized that I had a situation on my hands. I asked the cop if he had change and of course he did not. I then looked the transito in the eyes and said, "Yo no te dare 100 dolares, piensas que soy un idiota? Oyes, tu puedes tener a la 50 pesos y tiences mas dinero que antes, o yo me voy con el juez y pagare la multa a el. Es lo que tu quieres y eres afortunado, porque el papa de mi esposa es un judicial y el quiere mucha a ella, entiendes? Es tu decision."

We paid the 50 and left. My wife just looked at me and shook her head in amazement.

For you guys who don't speak the language, sorry, but it just seemed to lose something in translation. I just had to share that.

Storm Rider.

Missing CJ just a little bit.

Coyote79
07-07-05, 16:49
So if you are planning a visit to the massages, you better show up by 8 if you want your full hour. At least till this blows over, i.e., someone crosses the right palm with the right amount.Thanks bud I'll do that. I hate being rushed.

Mongered last night. Skipped Cleo's. Too many scaries last time I went.

Saw Erica at Luxxor last night. She was great.

Saw several new girls there. They're cute, but they look so depressed when I walked in it makes me think they must not be very interested in getting with me.

Stuart actually drove me all the way home. He's a good guy.

Bbond
07-07-05, 22:05
"Yo no te dare 100 dolares, piensas que soy un idiota? Oyes, tu puedes tener a la 50 pesos y tiences mas dinero que antes, o yo me voy con el juez y pagare la multa a el. Es lo que tu quieres y eres afortunado, porque el papa de mi esposa es un judicial y el quiere mucha a ella, entiendes? Es tu decision."


I'll translate it and try to keep the thought clear.....

"I am not giving you $100, do you think I am an idiot? Hey, you can have 50 pesos and have more money than before, or I'll go before the judge and pay the fine to him. If that's what you want, you are fortunate, for the father of my wife is a judge, and loves her very much, understand? It's your descision.."

Clydesdale
07-08-05, 01:25
Decided to look in at Masaje Felina before going back to Luxxor. Small place (2 rooms - 2 or 3 chicas) which rarely receives any good pixels on this board since the departure of Cristal a year or so ago (probably largely due to Karina, a thin, bleached blonde with great tits and an atitude to rival the aforementioned Claudia).

Karina has always been my first choice at Felina's. She's always been pretty enthusiastic with me.

Timbo1
07-08-05, 03:15
the reason the girls are outside is becayse they don't have id. that doesn't mean that they are ****, it just means that they haven't got their paperwork. having personally taken girls to get their paperwork, it's a pain in the ass. oftentimes, their papers are stolen or lost and they don't bother to replace them. most of the girls at laura's are on drugs and oftentimes get paid in drugs rather than cash.

cheetoh deals drugs but he's not any kind of a major player. he also helps move people across the border. in short, he'll do anything he can to make a buck. he's not a bad guy if he thinks there's a buck in it for him, but he's not the type of guy you would ever trust (but then again, i don't think there is anyone in that town that you can trust). they lie, they cheat and they steal....it's a way of life.

as for health cards, they are nothing but a fantasy. there's not a girl in town with a health card. the girls don't care, the club owners don't care, the police don't care, the politicians don't care and the customers don't care. the only cards you will ever see are strictly id cards.


i must admit that a certain amount of this is conjecture on my part. but on many occasions i have seen only some girls not being allowed inside. maybe he just wants those particular ones out on the street.

i have also had one of them spend quite a while trying to talk to me through the door of his club and when i asked she said that she wasn't allowed in and it wasn't because she was ****. draw your own conclusions.

i try not to believe to much of what i see. it would be easy to get it all wrong. so take all of this with a grain of salt guys.

gntlman mongr

Bbond
07-08-05, 07:34
Cheetoh deals drugs but he's not any kind of a major player. He also helps move people across the border. In short, he'll do anything he can to make a buck. He's not a bad guy if he thinks there's a buck in it for him, but he's not the type of guy you would ever trust (But then again, I don't think there is anyone in that town that you can trust). They lie, they cheat and they steal....it's a way of life.

Speaking of health, last time I saw Chito, he looked like he had lost a great deal of weight. Looked very thin and frail.

Bbond
07-08-05, 07:57
Onother note, a couple girls at Lauras will try to do BBFS....a big no-no in Juarez, ESPECIALLY with those girls. I fell for it once, being completely drunk, been a long while and I have tested negative, but when you sober up the next day it will have you wondering WTF did I do, especially when you see her in daylight. A few girls there are "H" users, they inject the shit.

Even had one wanted to me screw front and back door, then come on her face, screwing was covered, pulling out of the back door to pull the comdom off to do the COF, nasty. But again being bastante borracho, didn't matter.

If you have a specific request, ask Chito, he will find you a girl to fulfill that request.

Kid03
07-08-05, 23:28
Guys,

Can some one please let me know where I can find some Lesbian action in Juarez?

Thanks,

Kid

Storm Rider #2
07-09-05, 01:02
I'll translate it and try to keep the thought clear.....

"I am not giving you $100, do you think I am an idiot? Hey, you can have 50 pesos and have more money than before, or I'll go before the judge and pay the fine to him. If that's what you want, you are fortunate, for the father of my wife is a judge, and loves her very much, understand? It's your descision.."Only one mistake, but very good none the less. Judicial is the judicial police, kind of like process and warrant servers. A judge es un juez.

Storm Rider

Pecker Will
07-09-05, 17:43
Does anyone have the phone no. for Luxxor? Thx

Clydesdale
07-09-05, 23:00
Does anyone have the phone no. for Luxxor? Thx
011 52 656 632 5557, from Juarez you only have to dial the last 7 digits.
El paso number is 915 256 0518.

Storm Rider #2
07-10-05, 15:59
Guys,

Can some one please let me know where I can find some Lesbian action in Juarez?

Thanks,

KidDude,

You can find that just about anywhere you go. Most of these ho's are are bi. At least bi enough that they will do it to make a buck. The Panama, Casa Colorado and Pink Lady, etc., all are full of them, just like stripppers here in the states. Just ask for el patron and tell him what you want. Or one of the girls who speaks a little english. DON'T ask the waiters as they will then want a cut.

Storm Rider

Espina Heart
07-12-05, 00:33
Karina has always been my first choice at Felina's. She's always been pretty enthusiastic with me.I'm actually glad to hear a good review of her. The first time I solicited her service I was a Juarez newbie a coupla years back and spoke next to no spanish. I was disappointed that Cristal wasn't there, and I'm sure she picked up on that and got frustrated with me as well. The second time she was just impersonal because she remembered, no doubt. Ever since, I've chosen another or walked back out the door for Luxxor.

She is a pretty chica, especially if the dye job is recent, and has a very nice body: slender, long legs, big big tits still with little to no sag. I probably should go and surprise her by actually selecting her and then treat her very nice and see what happens.

Spine

Bbond
07-12-05, 00:44
Dude,

You can find that just about anywhere you go. Most of these ho's are are bi. At least bi enough that they will do it to make a buck. The Panama, Casa Colorado and Pink Lady, etc., all are full of them, just like stripppers here in the states. Just ask for el patron and tell him what you want. Or one of the girls who speaks a little english. DON'T ask the waiters as they will then want a cut.

Storm Rider

You can find lesbo action in Juarez, I would not go so far as to say it's all over the place, but ask and you will find. Problem, from what I've seen, the ones that will I wouldn't touch.

Gntlman Mongr
07-13-05, 09:23
Thanks for the input Timbo1. I was wondering if you were still out there. This should clear up some of the discussion over the Medical/ Id issue. I am still curious is the ID card for the purpose of determining their age or was it just so they could say they have it.

I agree with bbond's statement about the girls of Laura's club drug of preference. I think that to go with one of these girls you have to be willing to lose your money you paid Chito if the girl turns out to be to much of a skank when you get her to the room and she takes her clothes off. I have got some funny looks from the girls before as I checked them out for needle marks and have walked out when I have found them. Chito's girls scare me enough even with condoms. Though I have found some real jewels there on occasion. So be very careful guys.

Bbond
07-14-05, 10:22
I have heard conflicting reports, from girls themselves on the medical card issue. I don't know the whole truth.
The ID issue is different, the official ID in Mexico is the voter card, electoral, every Mexican over 18 is supposed to get that card, it is the only one officially accepted, to get any other papers, they need that one first.

Zuzax
07-14-05, 21:13
I went by the Casa Colorada Wednesday night, and to my amazement there was actually a girl there that knocked my socks off. She's probably the cutest thing I've seen there in 1.5 years.

This girl looks like some Southern California beach babe. She has blondish/brown hair and a beautiful looking tan. She's about 5'2" tall and weighs about 100 pounds. No fat on her and B-cup boobs. She's 30 years old, but looks like a college cheerleader.

This cutie was very accommodating up in the room and was well worth the money. She gave a nice CBJ and she didn't mind kissing.

She seemed to be free of drugs and no tattoos. Those are two big plusses for me when I rate the girls. She's just one of those rare girls that are hurting for money to take care of the kids.

If this is the kind of chica you guys are looking for, then you better get over there NOW! She's very disappointed with the lack of customers and is looking to work elsewhere.

I don't remember what her fake name was, because she must've told me 3 different ones. She works every night except Sunday.

Zuzax

Adam Z
07-16-05, 06:41
First off, if you go to Cleo's skip the temptation of the rocker looking girl named Naomi. She's got a real hot body and red streaks in her hair. She was terrible. I ended up demandind my money back and will skip this place for a long time.

For the good reviews, try a girl named Carolina at Loryed. She usually wears her hair in pigtails and is cute, if a little chubby. She'll do the BBBJCIM for a ten dollar tip. Nice because she sucks very, very well. If you want to skip the BBBJ, you can french kiss her on the lips for the same ten dollar tip. Very hot.

Also, hit up a girl named Vanessa at Masajes Michel's. She has nice legs and awesome tits. She gave a very enthusiastic massage and full service. No kissing, but she worked me over WELL. Next week, I'm taking her to a hotel room for a longer session.

Coyote79
07-16-05, 22:41
First off, if you go to Cleo's skip the temptation of the rocker looking girl named Naomi. She's got a real hot body and red streaks in her hair. She was terrible. I ended up demandind my money back and will skip this place for a long time.Isn't she great?

I haven't seen her in there in about three months--they told me she quit.

I love the way she demands "MORE MONEY!" every three or four minutes.

Also like how she responds "yeah, I know" when I tell her she's beautiful.

Really love the way she rushes you out of there after about 15 minutes.

Funny though, she will let you sneak a finger up her backside though.

DreamingEagle
07-17-05, 08:35
(But then again, I don't think there is anyone in that town that you can trust)

There are plenty of people in Juarez you can trust, but not many down there in that part of town. Judging the people in Juarez by the worst in the city is like judging the United States by what you will find on a street corner in deep South Dallas or some neighborhoods in LA or New York. That's where you are at when you monger in El Centro. Stealing and scheming is not a way of life for everyone in Juarez, or even most people. That's just a very common misperception of gringos who have never lived there and extrapolate the world of prostitution they encounter to the population as a whole. Most people have a job and live honest lives just like you do. The people in Juarez are no better or worse than those I've lived among anywhere else.

DreamingEagle
07-17-05, 08:50
You can find lesbo action in Juarez, I would not go so far as to say it's all over the place, but ask and you will find. Problem, from what I've seen, the ones that will I wouldn't touch.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Luxxors can accomodate you in this regard ..:)

http://www.luxxor-massage.com.

Member #2479
07-18-05, 06:03
Meduzas bar is now called "Placeres" its one block off Plaza Juarez Mall, I went there Wednesday expecting to find a new young girl, but no luck the same girls as always although I hadn’t met Jahaira, Karen sister.

Jahaira is a 19 year old brownie skin spinner, very thin, no kids, no stretch marks, very nice trim body, but the reason I did not take it back to the motel is that she seemed to "Mugrosita" not dirty in the sense she smelled bad, but dirty in the sense that she had a shower 12 hours ago, and the feeling of the humor of dark skin people doesn’t feel good.

Instead I took Coque, a pretty late twenties lady, that now has dark hair.
What a mistake fucking ***** did not what to suck my dick,

-No hago sexo oral

-Pendeja I replied and quickly agreed to give me the $2,000 Pesos back, because I look like the feminicide of Juarez guy.

Hope my experience helps

I’m kind of depressed, because I’m auto banned from “Amadeus” for mistreating America, and auto banned from Bacchus for also mistreating Karina. I’m not going back to those places for a couple of years out of the fear those girls might complain and have me hurt by the thugs, since most of the strip clubs In Juarez are owned by scary people like drug king pins, the golden rule for staying safe in Juarez is don’t mess with drug dealers.

I would like to know if anyone knows other strip clubs off the centro area with pretty and thin ladies working there.

The ones I know
Juarez Strip clubs

-“Amadeus” in front of Walmart ejercito nacional, Nice ladies sad to no be abe to go back. 6-9’s

-“Bacchus” next to Venus Massage on Lincoln avenue, the most expensive club of all of Juarez, drinks 6dlls , lap dances 20 dlls, Bar fines 100 DLLS!!, more people working there than customers at any given time, it has to be a money laundry scheme.

-“Jocker Premier” 6-10’s autobanned, someone I know works there. Raza and Lopez Mateos

-“Jocker” 6-10’s also autobanned some times the girls from “Jocker Premier” go to the other “Jocker”

-“69” Club also autobanned because I know a girl there that I feel bad not taking her out
some girls 5-7’s
“Phantom” Small place in Plaza Juarez Mall 4-6’s

-“M” Museum on Lincoln avenue Stuck up Venezuelan ladies, I saw some American (Caucasian) Chumps courting the prettiest lady there, but they are just wasting their money 8-10’s

-“Amsterdam” girls sit behind the bar, don’t know if they go out with patrons 6-8’s
-“Bongo Loco” same as Amsterdam on Avenida de las Americas 4-7s

there are a couple of club in the Waterfill – Zaragoza area but I think they are the same as the Centro bars.

These are all the Strip clubs I know off the centro area, I know there are more.

Help me I done all the MP and all the outcall services from the newspaper and going to El Paso is a hassle I just really don’t want, plus most of them are Hispanic girls same as Juarez..

I really don’t want to go back and have sex with my wife, how depressing is that?

Mugroso
07-19-05, 05:07
but the reason I did not take it back to the motel is that she seemed to "Mugrosita" not dirty in the sense she smelled bad, but dirty in the sense that she had a shower 12 hours ago, and the feeling of the humor of dark skin people doesn’t feel good.

Actually I find lighter skinned Mexcians to be the ones with low class behavior and ill mannered and of inferior quality.

because I look like the feminicide of Juarez guy.

I’m kind of depressed, because I’m auto banned from “Amadeus” for mistreating America, and auto banned from Bacchus for also mistreating Karina.

I would like to know if anyone knows other strip clubs off the centro area with pretty and thin ladies working there.

I really don’t want to go back and have sex with my wife, how depressing is that?

You are a sick man deeply in need of help. The kind of help only a psychiatrist and medication can provide.

You refer to a brown skin human as an "it". And they call America a racist country. Well they haven't met you. You think it funny to scare a poor girl into thinking she will wind up in the desert like those 300 some other girls. You are sick.

It is a good thing you are banned from certain clubs because of your behavior. I will no longer share information on this site as long as your are a member. I will not subject any lady of Juarez to your abuses.

I am sure your wife is relieved you are not having sex with her.

Member #2479
07-19-05, 05:34
Last week at about 1 AM I called Ejecutivas Atractivas from the classified in the newspaper I got Yamila slim and petite brown hair 18 year old, C-SECTION droopy boobs from baby.

Andrea (See previous reports) Always answers the phone at “Ejecutivas Atractivas “ as I learned from Yamila, Andrea is the handler of that outcall service of about 3 girls, but Andrea lied when she told me that Yamila was pretty, she was average looking at best.

Andrea is very tall and very pretty, but the reason I don’t call her anymore is that It’s boring to be with the same prostitute twice.

Classified listings of outcall services from Ciudad Juarez Mexico
“Ejecutivas Atractivas “ sometimes posts during the week and never on weekends.
http://clasificado.diario.com.mx/browse.asp?nivel=4&fccla=6&fcsec=1&fcssec=0

And now to answer Mugroso,

Dude don't overreact.

English is not my first language so I’m sorry for referring to a girl as IT, I use Microsoft Word Spelling proof, but is not always right.

Coyote79
07-19-05, 14:57
And now to answer Mugroso,

Dude don't overreact.

English is not my first language so I’m sorry for referring to a girl as IT, I use Microsoft Word Spelling proof, but is not always right.Yeah I agree. Let's not make this the politically correct monger board.

But what does "auto banned" and "the feeling of humor" mean?

Mugroso
07-19-05, 23:22
Yeah I agree. Let's not make this the politically correct monger board.

But what does "auto banned" and "the feeling of humor" mean?

It is not so much as to the use of the word "it". The post as a whole was offensive with references to abusing women to the point of being banned from clubs. This shows you this guys whole attitude towards women. Inmate #2479 has some serious issues.

Assuming he innocently used the word "it" incorrectly it does not change whatever he has freely admitted to doing to those other women, which he did not address which he knows is indefensible. His use of English in other posts is very good so I doubt his explanation.

This guy is a stain on this board and I hope other posters do not share in his attitude. In the past he has been insulting in regards to other posters race, economic status.

I stick by my words.

Bachelor Warrior
07-20-05, 04:14
Well lads, I saw the offending post and was more than a little surprised.

The poster seemed to be an English as a second language person. So I decided to cut a little slack and wait and see. Besides, who am I to rush to judgement? The man said he had had a few too many. That's no excuse, but I can understand. Heck, he might not remember exactly what happened. He could have just been thrown out for beng obnoxious. Or the girls could have been drunk themselves.

For several reasons posted on this board long ago, I try to be careful with alcohol in el centro. But another personal guideline is that if I go over my limit, I try not to go to the rooms. If I've had one too many, it's too easy for me to get upset.

But if I do go and she does something to make me mad, I get out of there. Pronto. Kiss the money goodbye or whatever. Even in a semi-drunk and disappointed state I know that, however much money it was and even if she's drunker than I am, it's not worth pushing a woman around and maybe having police trouble to boot.

If I were ever to hurt one of the ladies, I would truly regret it. That's not why I go to Juarez. Plus, in my semi-inebriated state, she could hurt me! Bad! Scratch my eyes out! These girls didn't just fall off of the turnip truck you know.

Remember that your words are powerful. They can hurt people. So we need to be careful how we "talk" here on the board.

BW

Mugroso
07-21-05, 00:18
Cienega32

Thank you for your support. Din Din at the Kentucky is on me next time.

Coyote79 and Bachelor Warrior


I respect your words and I regret having to critisize an obvious knuckle head but I felt his attitude and behavior needed addressing.

Thank guys, those I have not met, I look forward to meeting you one day in Juarez. (with one exception)

The Filthy (whats a mamaluke) One
Mugroso

Member #2479
07-21-05, 10:10
So many whiners, I get the feeling by your nicknames that you are Chicanos-Pochos
If so why the hell get offended.

Here is Cristina a very dark skin young lady 19 Yo No Csection,
She was great and even more because I got to accidentally creampie her,
Oh well shit happens, the good thing is because she charges $300 dollars an hour that she only does one outcall a month, most of her income comes from being a stripper.

Got more pictures I will upload to the Photo Section.

Gntlman Mongr
07-21-05, 10:17
One thing that I have learned from meeting some of the other guys from this board is the wide diversity of us that share this same interest.

I have been with plenty of ladies that have treated me bad or ripped me off. I do not get confrontational with them I just do not go back and if they really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off I post something on the board and let the rest of you know. Some of you have probably read some of these in the past. Maybe if she really has a bad attitude and people stop seeing her she will find a new line of work. Something she is more suited to.

I cannot imagine getting 86'ed from a club, though I have written some clubs off my list. Maybe it is good some guys get confrontational with these bad providers but it is not my style. I would rather just not go back. Sometimes I think that the bad providers and the guys that treat them bad deserve each other but it rarely works out that way. Mostly the guys that treat women bad find the nice ones.

Some of these ladies have issues I do not. I do not to forget what I am there for. There are a lot of fine ladies that appreciate someone like me and I try not to fall in love with them. Sometimes it is hard.

Due to the diversity of of us as well as the girls. I try to be careful of what I say. It is easy for something to be taken wrong especially when talking to the girls with the language problems and all. I do not get in fights and I usually drink very little. Once again I try not to forget what I am there for.

Life is to short for conflicts. I have walked away from situations that were bad and just lost my money. Afterwards I'll go back to one of my regulars that treats me well and after a while I play the field again. Now who is really in control?

Oh, by the way, I watched a John Wayne movie last weekend with a great quote:

“I admire a woman that makes a lot of men happy instead of one man miserable”

Enjoy,

Gntlman Mongr

Cienega32
07-21-05, 22:49
I have been with plenty of ladies that have treated me bad or ripped me off. I do not get confrontational with them I just do not go back and if they really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off I post something on the board and let the rest of you know. Some of you have probably read some of these in the past. Maybe if she really has a bad attitude and people stop seeing her she will find a new line of work. Something she is more suited to.

“I admire a woman that makes a lot of men happy instead of one man miserable”

Enjoy,

Gntlman Mongr
That would make a great tag line!

I think the part of post about just not going back and perhaps posting here about it is what this forum is all about. To help the rest of us that haven't tasted that flavor ice cream yet. Now we know NOT to order it.



People are funny. Especially when they experience a lack of good judgement. I've watched people get confrontational & semi-violent because the slot machine they decided to bond with took all their money. Punching and breaking the belly glass of the machine. "I'll show you!" Costs them another $100 and other problems. Throwing chairs when their hand in blackjack wasn't good enough. People are dumb. Look how they drive and react to simple situations. People are dumb.

Like you - if it's bad - I don't go back and I will share that info. Hopefully others will learn from it or they'll post how they had no problem. If the latter then I know it was the chemistry.

Confrontation doesn't happen unless I feel I was out & out jacked which has never happened. Bad judgement calls - yes. To those I'll make a point of saying something to them along the lines of "I got your number" and spread the word. Perhaps a comment to mamasan and/or bartender.

My bad judgement is my own fault - not theirs. But I'm not going to find the faults in where I am if I chose to be there.

I think autobanned is used in a "won't go in there" style not as in 86d. Seems that the poster might have a drama session if he goes in. I don't have a problem with that - we all do it. Nor a problem with the use of "it". The general demeanor of the posts I do. Which falls under "If you don't like it - don't read it." But in this case it's more like someone taking a dump on the sidewalk and viewing it as "If you don't like it - walk around it".

It's as if the poster is going to some shithole and has enough money to be abusive because the world is filled with skanks and thugs. The only clean girl charges 4 digits type attitude. Like a wise man once said - "A ho is a ho is a ho". Charging more doesn't mean a girl takes better care of her puss nor does it mean that she's more "selective". Most of time it means you're dumb enough to pay too much. :D

It's not any reference to skin color or social status that I "notice" in the postings - it's the general attitude towards them because of those things. It's not the words - it's the context in which they're used. The words are harmless. Being PC is bullshit to me. It's the demeanor. Pull up some of the pasts posts. He's a mamaluke and his actions will make things harder for them and for us. I don't go there to take advantage of their situation. I go to have a good time and, hopefully, provide a good time.

I love being able to learn what is and what is not a good deal or good time in what ever area I'm reading in. Not about the continuing adventures of a mamaluke & his money. Sadly, they're in every forum.

For all I know he's the nicest guy in the world but just has a problem communicating his adventures. But I don't give a rat's ass if he can buy her out of work for a week or if he gives her a higher rating because he "accidently" cream-pied her. These things aren't presented in a way that is of any value. They're nothing but a blog but then again - he sure will make us look good.



Not quite John Wayne-esque in nature but another good line is "Pussy's pussy. It's all the same with the lights off."

Gntlman Mongr
07-21-05, 23:24
Thanks Cienega32,

I did take autobanned as 86'ed. I think you are more correct in your interpretation, that he had banned himself.

He did say it was for mistreating the ladies. So maybe he still has issues.

I stand corrected.

Oh.. Thanks for the “RANT”

Buena Suerte Guys,

Gntlman Mongr

Espina Heart
07-22-05, 00:59
It's not any reference to skin color or social status that I "notice" in the postings - it's the general attitude towards them because of those things. It's not the words - it's the context in which they're used. The words are harmless. Being PC is bullshit to me. It's the demeanor. Pull up some of the pasts posts. He's a mamaluke and his actions will make things harder for them and for us. I don't go there to take advantage of their situation. I go to have a good time and, hopefully, provide a good time. Amen, amigo. Mug, I also agree with your stand. To me, women are beautiful. Period. I prefer less (and avoid) the skanky, drugged out hos, but give me each and every flavor: white, yellow, brown, red, or black. I prefer younger, without "tummy dammage," but if not, who cares? Its their life and I just hope the delivery that necessitated surgery was successful. My hands, eyes, and other sensory receiving apparati quite frankly are elsewhere.

Bottomline: they all should be appreciated and treated with the utmost respect. They provide for the money, duh, but there are many that like to BOTH provide AND receive a good time, and I really cherish being with any and every one of them who genuinely wants to give all (well, ok, probably at best, alot) and receive the same. And in general terms, the "ladies of Juarez" fit that bill better than any place I've ever seen. Cherish these women and treat them with the utmost respect, until they treat you, or give you some other reason not to do so.

Spine, having pontificated, now descending from the top of Mt. Cristo Rey, wishing I was walking across the SF Bridge.

Bachelor Warrior
07-22-05, 03:38
Great posts and good advice all around! Couldn't agree more. Thanks.

BW

BorderJumper
07-22-05, 04:26
I really don’t want to go back and have sex with my wife, how depressing is that?

Depressing thought to have sex with your wife after all the real men are through with her or the thought of having to stand in line to wait your turn.

I concur with Mugroso's and others assessment of you. you are an utterly contemptible asshole who should be in the carcel under suspicion as the killer of Juarez women!

If you are actually hispanic even of a higher social strata than some of the women, you shoud have some empathy and show some kindness towards them instead of the utter contempt you seem to hold your felllow hispanics in!

Mugroso
07-22-05, 09:23
Autobanned means if he is seen again in those clubs his ass is grass and will be dealt with accordingly by the powers that be.

He freely admits to abusing these women. He did not say there was a problem to begin with so I can only guess he did some freaky stuff to these women that they did not like. As for the one that did not suck his tiny dick, who cares. I have had plenty decline to do oral on me with no problem, they resulting sex was great anyway. No BJ does not mean bad service.

So, who is going down this weekend? I will be. I plan on taking a nap after work, watch Battlestar Galactica and then head on down.

Mugroso

Toni Ten
07-22-05, 17:39
Sounds like a hell of a horror flix, Whats times , The show, Oh never mind, (pun) .the S&M sad and missing one TT.

Cienega32
07-22-05, 18:07
Mugroso - that's too funny. I remember one adventure that I took and, later, relaxing over a "XX" and a glob of Avocado, it dawned on me that I didn't get any head! Usually a personal (and mandatory) preference, but the interlude was so enjoyable I didn't even notice the lack of it! Funny, ain't it?


For a basic, loose and roundabout definition of "Mamaluke" see BorderJumper's post (other than the suspicion part)...

I took "autobanned" as being self-imposed due to the prefix of auto as opposed to "banned". Also for some of the reasons stated for being autobanned. Perhaps it's that damn spell-checker failure again.

Old Rebel II
07-23-05, 01:39
There is an old adddage that I have found true: Treat a lady like a ho and a ho like a lady.

It may not work on ladies but it sure works on the average "working girl". I get down about 1 time per year and have been doing so for about 15 years. Most of the working girls have treated me well. Some rushed me and I never bothered with them again. I like either the new ones or the 30 to 40 year old pros that have not fallen apart and will treat you very nice if you do not insult them.

DreamingEagle
07-23-05, 02:53
Depressing thought to have sex with your wife after all the real men are through with her or the thought of having to stand in line to wait your turn.

I concur with Mugroso's and others assessment of you. you are an utterly contemptible asshole who should be in the carcel under suspicion as the killer of Juarez women!

If you are actually hispanic even of a higher social strata than some of the women, you shoud have some empathy and show some kindness towards them instead of the utter contempt you seem to hold your felllow hispanics in!

I don't know when I have ever seen a poster villified in the way this #2479 guy is being --- but, then again, I don't know when one has ever deserved it more...:)

Heard something last weekend from one of those sappy, self-help, "follow-me", "buy my book" kind of guys on TV, and this one thing he said made sense: "The situations you look at are changed by the way you look at them."

It that's true this guy could glance at a glass of fine wine and turn it to water...or something worse.

He began by stomping into the forum bragging about spending $300 a girl and lording his money over everyone else and calling Americans all kinds of bad names because of things our government is doing (nice opening).

Now I see even Mugroso weighing in. If you have ever met Mug, you know that must take a whole lot.

Ah, well, every forum needs an ogre, I guess.

BorderJumper
07-23-05, 18:28
I don't know when I have ever seen a poster villified in the way this #2479 guy is being --- but, then again, I don't know when one has ever deserved it more...:)

.


If this is what it takes to get the elusive DE out of retirement, then villify on chillun, villify on!

Gntlman Mongr
07-24-05, 00:39
I hear one theme in the posts that seems to ring true that you guys worship the ones that treat us well. These women deserve our respect for who they are and for being there for us to enjoy. These women do not have the easiest life. They deserve our respect until they prove us wrong. I have loved and respected many of these girls and have absolute respect for them. May that never change no matter how many bad apples there are out there.

A note to member #2479, most of these guys have respect for these women and treat them well for what they are and for enjoying the same pastime as they do. The ones that don't enjoy it we need to encourage to find a new line of work. If you find one of these tell us about her, if you find one you like tell us about her too, but if she doesn't meet your criteria of how a ***** should be or act or demean certain types of *****s, then the it may not be as well received. Some of the ones that are inexpensive and have a lot of mileage on them usually really enjoy their work and can be cleaner because they have a better attitude then the expensive ones.

Once again the John Wayne quote I think it sums it up:

“I admire a woman that makes a lot of men happy instead of one man miserable”

Enjoy guys,

Gntlman Mongr

Espina Heart
08-02-05, 15:52
Don't know if I'm not getting updates since the domain name change or you guys haven't had anything to say this past week. Last post received was 7/23.

Tip of the fedora to Clydesdale on Karina de Felina. Great fantastic melons as always and she was very friendly, forgiving, and giving after my apology for standing her up for a year or so. I guess one bad lay might sometimes mean just a bad day, que no?

Spine

Clydesdale
08-04-05, 00:47
Tip of the fedora to Clydesdale on Karina de Felina. Great fantastic melons as always and she was very friendly, forgiving, and giving after my apology for standing her up for a year or so. I guess one bad lay might sometimes mean just a bad day, que no?

Spine

Sometimes it gets better with practice - once you find her buttons.

I was beginning to wonder if the heat had made everyone too lazy to do anything worth posting about.

Cienega32
08-04-05, 07:47
Thank goodness - I thought I may have been permanently diverted to my own little page that no one else could access but me...

Mugroso
08-04-05, 13:15
Thank goodness - I thought I may have been permanently diverted to my own little page that no one else could access but me...

Hey, thats how mine works but only on my computer. Technology is amazing.


To make this a useful post, I heard a little rumor which is just that, a little rumor. I will have more later but lets just say, Nuevo Laredo, Acuna, etc.

95 Vette
08-06-05, 00:34
Hey, thats how mine works but only on my computer. Technology is amazing.


To make this a useful post, I heard a little rumor which is just that, a little rumor. I will have more later but lets just say, Nuevo Laredo, Acuna, etc.


Acuna, eh? hmm i live right across from there... let us know

DreamingEagle
08-07-05, 05:28
Don't know if I'm not getting updates since the domain name change or you guys haven't had anything to say this past week. Last post received was 7/23.

Tip of the fedora to Clydesdale on Karina de Felina. Great fantastic melons as always and she was very friendly, forgiving, and giving after my apology for standing her up for a year or so. I guess one bad lay might sometimes mean just a bad day, que no?

Spine

Funny you should mention this. I cannot count the number of times I've had a kind of so so time with one of the girls and had it totally change on a return visit. One girls at Marilyn's in particular. It was like nothing the first time, but then I got to know her a little better from just hanging around the place. Second time, great. I was a person now.

For a while, there were three great ones there, and I would sit there in the car waiting them to arrive on a Saturday or Sunday morning. They gather at Raul's store across the street and have a coke while waiting for the owner of the MP to come open up, usually a few minutes late. (Just as a brief aside, Raul is a great guy in his late 50's who is a good Christian but he knows the score in Mexico and treats the girls with the greatest of respect.)

Of course, once the door is open they all disappear for a while getting ready for the day's business, giving you time to decide who struck you the best that morning. I like that early morning experience. She's not tired and neither are you. There is no hurry because the place doesn't heat up until after noon anyway. After that, I could disappear back into my little apartment next door and enjoy the day in a great mood.

Anybody who disrespects a girl for being a prostitute in Mexico I can only pity, because they really don't have a handle on reality and thus cannot even really enjoy their times with them beyond evaluating it all on a sexual basis, which, granted it what we are paying for, but I don't think many of us evaluate everything that way. It's not about whether or not you get head or have all of your little fantasies fulfilled. It more about how you feel when you leave with everything considered.

More often than not it works out great. Even when it doesn't I've got at least a $5 tip for her if she's sweet. What you really have the first time is a captive bird in a cage left alone with you for an hour. How would you like to be in that spot? If you are treated well, you might like it a lot. If not, I guess you just get through it for your kids, because whether they enjoy that hour with a man or not that's why they are all there.

It's really great to see how many guys here understand this, although I already knew they did even before #2479 showed up. When I started poking around on the forums in 1999 attitudes like that of #2479 were the rule, not the exception. If you said anything remotely positive about either the girls or Mexico you were pecked on by a bunch of perverts. My posts were about as welcome as a skunk at a picnic.

Something changed, and now I'm no longer the odd man out but just another voice demanding a little respect for the ladies and the cirumstances which put them there. Thank god.

Bolongo
08-07-05, 21:12
I haven't posted in here in a while because I haven't been over to Juarez in a good while. I dunno if the woman or clubs changed, but a good friend is coming in and only got one night to go over to Juarez. Can I get the top three places to take him? He likes thinner women. Thanks for the help.

Cienega32
08-07-05, 23:38
If you said anything remotely positive about either the girls or Mexico you were pecked on by a bunch of perverts. My posts were about as welcome as a skunk at a picnic.


And now your posts, using the picnic analogy, are the red & white checkered cloth - just ain't a picnic without 'em!

I just wish your great tales, adventures and general insights were posted often! You need to write a book.

Clydesdale
08-08-05, 01:23
I haven't posted in here in a while because I haven't been over to Juarez in a good while. I dunno if the woman or clubs changed, but a good friend is coming in and only got one night to go over to Juarez. Can I get the top three places to take him? He likes thinner women. Thanks for the help.
For the clubs, my votes go to Las Vegas, Queens, and Faustos/Alice & Charly's (expensive)

Timbo1
08-08-05, 01:49
There are plenty of people in Juarez you can trust, but not many down there in that part of town. Judging the people in Juarez by the worst in the city is like judging the United States by what you will find on a street corner in deep South Dallas or some neighborhoods in LA or New York. That's where you are at when you monger in El Centro. Stealing and scheming is not a way of life for everyone in Juarez, or even most people. That's just a very common misperception of gringos who have never lived there and extrapolate the world of prostitution they encounter to the population as a whole. Most people have a job and live honest lives just like you do. The people in Juarez are no better or worse than those I've lived among anywhere else.Actually, I have lived in Juarez and my perceptions are based, not just on what I see in the poorer districts of Juarez, but what I see throughout the city. In my many dealings with business and government officials you simply cannot trust anyone. This is probably due to the nature of the economy. There are rich and there are poor and the middle class is non-existent. This fosters an attitude of "I've got to get mine" that is prevalent throughout the city. You mention South Dallas, LA and New York referring to the poorer sections of those cities. The greater part of Juarez is exactly like those areas and it is because the economy in all those areas is essentially the same.

The fact is that an economy such as that results in the types of actions that I am referring to.

I have no predjudice against Mexicans, in fact, my fiancee is Mexican and I am respectful of everyone there. But facts are facts. I am not saying that people in Juarez treat gringos particularly bad because it has been my experience that they treat each other in much the same manner. If you want proof, I would just say look at every house and business in the city and they all have one thing in common, bars on the windows and doors. Coincidence? I think not. There is a huge difference in cultures (not that ours is anywhere near perfect).

Espina Heart
08-08-05, 15:52
Regresa pronto! Guys, Stuart (Luxxor) was more than a bit sad when he reported to me last Thurs. that Ms. V has moved to LA (and no wonder since she was in such high demand always). LA, huh? Cienega, you wouldn't know anything about this sad turn of events, would you? Just kidding, LOL. My good gracious but I'll miss that most fantastic ass.

Gntlman Mongr
08-09-05, 05:39
Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamingEagle

If you said anything remotely positive about either the girls or Mexico you were pecked on by a bunch of perverts. My posts were about as welcome as a skunk at a picnic.

Great Post DreamingEagle.

I have also noticed in the past that some of the guys have picked on posters for posting stories about how they have really screwed up or been ripped off. Like, “how could you be so stupid”. It is important for the health of this forum to make fools of ourselves once in a while so we all can learn hopefully without to much negative criticism.

“Story”

I had a friend that related this story;

He told about the time he sold his wife on a street corner in Juarez while very drunk to a couple of local guys that didn't speak English and he doesn't speak Spanish. When his wife objected profusely and a scene erupted he was thrown in jail for being to drunk he thinks. He then had to rely on the good graces of his wife to get bailed out.

“end of story”

Of course I do not have any embarrassing moments unless you look at some of the old posts. I have also been on occasion ripped off and it is important to relate these stories so we all can know who in specific to be careful of.

If not people will be reluctant to relate stories of these poor providers.

Thanks Guys and “keep on keeping on.”

Gntlman Mongr

Gntlman Mongr
08-10-05, 00:52
Originally Posted by DreamingEagle :

If you said anything remotely positive about either the girls or Mexico you were pecked on by a bunch of perverts. My posts were about as welcome as a skunk at a picnic.

I can't seem to figure out how to do the quote thing with the box around it.


I have also noticed in the past that if you said anything about tipping to much or paying to much you were criticized. The attitude was you are driving prices up. Price is pretty much driven by supply and demand and there has always been plenty of supply. Prices are pretty much the same as twenty to thirty years ago. But the quality and variety has increased. I remember paying $40. twenty years ago at the Panama Club. Maybe they are $60. or $80. now but that isn't even keeping up with inflation and there is plenty of message parlors that are still $40. All I remember was there was a lot of fairly unattractive ones out there back then. It might be that I am older now and less picky but I don't think so. There might have been more high end places with better looking ladies back then but I don't think so. Thanks to the Internet and this board I am aware of places with some very beautiful women now. All I remember from back then were many nalgas gordas “fat asses”. I still found some jewels amongst them. You can really spend money on a beautiful woman now if thats what floats your boat. Variety is a good thing. So the next time one of you feels the urge to criticize think of the time when there wasn't the selection.

Enjoy,

Gntlman Mongr

Gntlman Mongr
08-10-05, 01:54
quote:

originally posted by dreamingeagle

i cannot count the number of times i've had a kind of so so time with one of the girls and had it totally change on a return visit. it's not about whether or not you get head or have all of your little fantasies fulfilled. it more about how you feel when you leave with everything considered.

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i have noticed this a lot myself. these women are people too. they have emotions and feelings just like any other woman. which can be good and bad depending on how you play it. most guys think that these women are just in to this as a means of money and really kind of hate what they are doing or men down deep. the more i am with these women the more i realize they are human beings to. with the same feelings and emotions as the rest of us. there are the ones that hate their jobs and/or men out there but they do not usually last long. sometimes by peer pressure from the other women.

a lot of them like their work and if you treat them well and like spending repeated time with them they can really get into you. the first time is always a little awkward just like a first date but this first date puts out. a lot of time the feelings seem to fade out after 3 to 5 times for me as well as her. isn't this better then a date that doesn't put out for 3 to 5 times and you decide you are not compatible and you spent all that time and money on her. but i have had great sex with some for over a year as the fire for each other doesn't seem to ever diminish.

don't get me wrong guys there are some that really turn my crank and i really just want to do nasty things with them but they are usually one timers as i find they are not as hot for me as i am for them and i go back to the ones that are really into me.

keep the fires burning guys,

gntlman mongr

Kimbrough
08-13-05, 04:55
Hi guys,

Has Marilyn got any new girls worth trying out? The last time there Sergio was talking about moving the location closer to a main street. Does anyone know if he moved the MP?

When I go to El Paso I all ways stop at Marilyns, I totally trust everyone there.
Anyway, happy monger fellas!

DreamingEagle
08-13-05, 05:30
Actually, I have lived in Juarez and my perceptions are based, not just on what I see in the poorer districts of Juarez, but what I see throughout the city. In my many dealings with business and government officials you simply cannot trust anyone. This is probably due to the nature of the economy. There are rich and there are poor and the middle class is non-existent. This fosters an attitude of "I've got to get mine" that is prevalent throughout the city. You mention South Dallas, LA and New York referring to the poorer sections of those cities. The greater part of Juarez is exactly like those areas and it is because the economy in all those areas is essentially the same.

The fact is that an economy such as that results in the types of actions that I am referring to.

I have no predjudice against Mexicans, in fact, my fiancee is Mexican and I am respectful of everyone there. But facts are facts. I am not saying that people in Juarez treat gringos particularly bad because it has been my experience that they treat each other in much the same manner. If you want proof, I would just say look at every house and business in the city and they all have one thing in common, bars on the windows and doors. Coincidence? I think not. There is a huge difference in cultures (not that ours is anywhere near perfect).

I agree with you. The whole place is founded upon corruption and would grind to a halt if it stopped, because no one would know how to behave. The electric meter in my building? The circular plate that revolves around and around when the electricty is running? It doesn't even move. Yet we have electricity due to a two hundred payment to the right person every December. Home security? I live in a walled compound, essentially, with 2-4 inch pointy glass schards buried in a layer of concrete on top of the walls. How else could I feel safe? Everyone has this kind of home security, because you are right, the criminals prey on everyone. And you are right when you say it is the economy and lack of opportunity that brings out the worst in people.

The government? Sheesh. What government? With a little money you can get what you want from them. Without a little mordita here and there (from a Mexican person who knows *how* to apply it) you cannot get anything done even if you dot all the i's and cross all the t's on the paperwork just right. With the right connections anything within reason is possible. The cops? At night in the outlaying areas of Juarez you are lucky if you are getting stopped a real cop. I have no illusions about this place, and if I've ever seem to paint a PollyAnna picture of it, I really apologize. The criminal justice system alone in Juarez is a monster that will chew you up and spit out the bones if you cross it.

But I still maintain and believe you will agree that most people in Juarez are not going to scale your walls and come in and hurt you. To me, it's amazing more do not turn to crime. These people are caught up in a system where everything is upside down, turned inside out, and the truth about everything seems to lie behind mirrors behind mirrors. Everyone claims to understand that corrupt system and have friends in high places, yet, in reality, they don't have a clue any more than you do. Everyone has to cling to this fantasy to keep their sanity. I clung to it for a long time myself, thinking my landlord, a very wealthy powerful man, would ride to my rescue no matter what happened to me --- until a couple of punks shot him down outside of our garage one day a few months ago.

Yet most people in Juarez will bring you some cool salsa or carnitas they cooked up and have a beer with you and never ask for a thing. The poorest people there are often the most generous. I'm laughing because you know what I'm talking about. It's the most mixed up, mind-bending place I've ever encounted, something right out of Alice and Wonderland. Every time you think you've got it figured out, something happens and you realize you have not even seen past the first three mirrors.

That 2 percent of people who will hurt you is about the worst I've ever seen. They will kidnap you and torture you for your PIN number in some little apartment, nearly always drug addicts. I feel like one of those people in "Lost World" running along hoping the Raptors don't snatch me sometimes living there. It's certainly a place to go for girls in relative safety, but, wow, I can't say it's not dangerous to live there.

Juarez is a drug corridor, leaving behind the addicts, drug gang crime, and executions that come with it. You could put the whole Mexican army in Juarez and not stop the billion dollar a year drug trade moving through there. The ravenous appetite for drugs in the US will continue to attract the very worst of both societies to El Paso/Juarez.

So please never think I underestimate these things. But I guess I think like many of you life in the US is great but just too damn boring. It's just not all about the women. That mixed up, crazy, upside down world they live in has some kind of bizzare, insane appeal that keeps pulling back you for more. It's like a big puzzle any one man can only solve a corner of.

The Native Americans had a tradition of riding up and whacking the enemy with a stick, called "counting coup". If they got back safely, it was a big deal to have ridden so close to danger and gotten back ok. When I think about the dangers we all face when we cross the border, man, that really seems to apply. You got your ass across the border, got you some good pussy, had you a good steak dinner for $10, and got back in one piece. How much better does life get than *that*? If you make the mistake of trying to explain these experiences to your friends they just look at you with the blank expression of frightened Hobbits in the Shire or get all wild eyed and want to come with you but never seem to find the time to actually do it. Secretly, they all probably think you are crazy but have to raise an eyebrow because you have the balls to really do it.

But how much better can life get?

I think we are all danger junkies as well as girl junkies.

Pecker Will
08-14-05, 04:52
I'm driving through Saltillo, Mexico (near Monterrey) last week and I receive a cell phone call from a potential client. I'm on the cell phone and trying to negotiate the traffic as well. My girlfriend sitting next to me then motions for me to pull over. I look to my right and a police car is next to me as we both slowly meander through the quagmire of cars. My girlfriend again motions for me to pull over and as the cop pulls ahead of us, I'm looking for a smooth egress off of the highway.

By this time, I've become an utterly babbling idiot with my potential client and I tell him to call me back in 10 minutes. He says okay.

So I pull over. The cop approaches my driver side first and I inform him I speak Spanish poketo. He sees very clearly that my girlfriend is Mexican and then approaches her side. He talks to her. He is on his radio and another cop in a truck pulls up. They converse for 15 seconds. He talks some more to my girlfriend. I don't know what is up, but I'm patiently listening. My girlfriend then gives way to a surprised expression on her face. I ask her what's up? She says I'm getting a ticket for talking on the cell phone and driving at the same time. She talks some more with the cop and shakes her head back and forth. I patiently wait and listen. I look the cop directly into his eye. This is not his first traffic stop for him. I glance at his name badge several times giving him ample time to observe me looking at his badge name.

I again ask my girlfriend, What's up? She said the cop wants me to return to the police dept. and show all my papers and pay a 500 pesos fine. She's sitting there shaking her head. I finally say, Vamanos! How far is it and where? The cop tells her it's about 20-30 minutes and about 10-15 miles or so. She shakes her head. I say again, loud enough for him to hear, Vamanos!

She talks again to the copy. Finally she tells me to take off. I asked, Where? to the police station? She says, No to Juarez. I say are you sure? She says yes and the cop is already in his car leaving the scene of the crime.

So I asked my girlfriend, What did you say to get us out of that? She said she didn't know. (Maybe she promised him a handjob on her next visit through town). Anyway ... I'm a dumb person sometimes but not all the time. And I'll suck a dick if there is a law in Saltillo about talking on cell phones while driving. He was just after a 200-300 pesos kickback. What made him let us go? I don't know. It could have been the fact that I was very willing to turn around, go to the police station and pay the 500 pesos. Maybe I called his bluff.

I found this amusing - and I'm 200-500 pesos richer for the experience.

Gwinnett Male
08-14-05, 16:00
Hey all,

I will be in Juarez/El Paso Aug 17, 18, 19 leaving the morning of the 20th. Looking for some travel / beer drinking buddies to expore Juarez. If interested please PM me, I have done the solo act many times but gets boring looking for someone to chat have some beer and trade chica stories. PM if interested.

Thanks

Member #2984
08-15-05, 23:04
Oh man I just came from Juarez myself Gwinett. Won't be back probably until the week after you go. I love it over there except for the hassel of the room, rates, condom fee, this and that fee, etc.

I have pretty much a regular named Erica who works at Club Extranjero. Rooms are right behind the club for convenience. She speaks no English and me mo Espanol but boy do we make the beds Squeak. She's a cutie for 27yrs old and 5 kids. Has no stretchies and doesn't mind my daty on her. Tell me guys what at most I should donate to Juarez SW incl. room, donation, and all fees! Just from your experience so I can keep from overpaying. I know the YMMV rule but just give me an average if you can.

Thanks and be safe.

Bbond
08-16-05, 02:04
Gov. Bill Richardson on Friday declared an emergency in four New Mexico counties along the border, an action that lets him free up money to be spent on everything from fighting drug smuggling to fencing a livestock yard.


http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3716635

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/

And if he choses, he has the authority to order the NM National Guard there.

Zuzax
08-16-05, 03:00
I went to the Casa Colorada Saturday night and was quite shocked to see the bar filled with customers. This is the most hombres I've seen in there in a long time. There were also a lot of chicas to choose from. The selection was fair, but it was sure better than what I've seen in there in awhile.

I chose the same chica that I had last month. This girl gives great service up in the room. She started me off with a little striptease dance which awakened "Hank" in a hurry. She followed that with a CBJ and a three position session.

After we finished, she asked for a tip of 1 or 2 dollars. I found that really funny, because I usually tip the girls 10 dollars. Heck, I thought 10 dollars was just an average tip. Does this mean I could only tip 5 dollars and the girls would think I was over tipping them? Hmmm?

The one thing I didn't like about this chica was she's mostly business. We all know the type. Will you buy me a drink? Let's go up to the room! Thank you, when are you coming back? Don't forget me. Adios!! I like the girls who'll come back to the bar and have a couple more drinks with me until I'm ready to leave. Well, I guess you can't have everything all the time.

Anyway, while having a couple of after session beers, the bar was visited by the Juarez policia. They lined up all the girls and were doing an ID check for minors. I actually think they just came in for entertainment purposes. Most of the policia were just walking around with big smiles on their faces while a couple of the others were checking the ID's. It actually seemed like they were just flirting with the girls instead of doing their job. Well there was one guy who took the job seriously. To be honest, he kind of scared me. He was all dressed in his commando uniform and armed with some kind of rifle. You would think he was ready for war. The guy never smiled and he had a I hate the world look on his face. Sheesh, can we leave the major artillery in the policia van next time.

In conclusion, it turned out to be a pretty good time at the Casa. It was good to see the bar alive and jumping like the old days.

Zuzax

Mugroso
08-16-05, 03:48
Gov. Bill Richardson on Friday declared an emergency in four New Mexico counties along the border, an action that lets him free up money to be spent on everything from fighting drug smuggling to fencing a livestock yard.


http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3716635

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/

And if he choses, he has the authority to order the NM National Guard there.


Hell yeah bbond, they were just pouring over as if they had the right too. There was a town on the Mexican side set up just for the purpose of smuggling people over. Last I heard the Mex government aggreed to bulldoze the town.

For all the money they spend to enter the U.S. illegally they could spend half that and get legal papers. And not to mention the drug traffic.

WS6
08-16-05, 04:58
Vanessa of Luxxor is gone!

Last couple of visits to Luxxor, I enjoyed the company of Brisa. Nice tits, filled out, but not fat, currently red haired. Very good experience each time. If you are nice to her, she will be very nice to you. Nice CBJ, different positions, ending in my favorite, doggie. She has nice boobs, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching them bounce around. She speaks a little english.

At the end of tonights session, I asked about Vanessa. I hadn't seen her last few visits. Brisa tells me Vanessa moved to Los Angeles. Noooooooooooo!

The good news is that there are some really cute, thin girls currently at Luxxor. I was about to pick Leslie, young, thin, cute. But she was being kind of standoff-ish, so I went with a known good time, Brisa.

The 9 pm closing time is still being enforced, so show up at or before 8 pm if you want to enjoy your full hour.

Espina Heart
08-16-05, 16:12
Gov. Bill Richardson on Friday declared an emergency in four New Mexico counties along the border, an action that lets him free up money to be spent on everything from fighting drug smuggling to fencing a livestock yard.

Hell yeah bbond, they were just pouring over as if they had the right too.Two words, ok, three: SERIOUS presidential candidate. He being serious on further stroking his egomaniacal dream of being the first US president "of color," and the dems being serious, desparately serious, for more or less the same reasons (because it might win, and they need one bad). Guv R has already been to New Hampshire, where he told the audience in english, "no, I'm not running," and en espanol, "por so puesto, yo funcionamiento" (or something to that effect). Its all just posturing to win over the more centroid repubs...he's already cut state taxes, now he has to get tough on the border. While I agree we need to keep politics off of this board, I felt it was necessary to elucidate the obvious to those who know little about the NM Guv situation.

I am much more intensely alarmed, disgusted, and sickened by the fact that starting January 1, we must carry a US Passport to walk over the bridge. Don't know about MX (and you can be sure it will change for the worse), but currently in Costa Rica the black market rate for a stolen US Passport is $400US. I'm going to feel alot less safe carrying the damn obvious gringo-block-o-gold in the ciudad next year. Thanks alot, W.

Oh, and WS6, I commiserate with you on our loss of Vanessa, but put as gently as possible, RTFF. Sorry, this whole rant has just spiked my blood pressure, and a soothing masaje chica visit is not in the cards this week!

Spine

Bbond
08-17-05, 02:09
Hell yes it's political, Gov R is a Dem and GW is a Rep. GW refuses to do ANYTHING about illegal immigration.

But, I did not post it as a political discussion, I posted as a heads up to mongers that shit may be going down there and it's something we all should be aware of. Who knows what will happen, just a heads up, that's all.

Coyote79
08-17-05, 11:41
Vanessa of Luxxor is gone!

Last couple of visits to Luxxor, I enjoyed the company of Brisa. Nice tits, filled out, but not fat, currently red haired. Very good experience each time. If you are nice to her, she will be very nice to you. Nice CBJ, different positions, ending in my favorite, doggie. She has nice boobs, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching them bounce around. She speaks a little english.

At the end of tonights session, I asked about Vanessa. I hadn't seen her last few visits. Brisa tells me Vanessa moved to Los Angeles. Noooooooooooo!

The good news is that there are some really cute, thin girls currently at Luxxor. I was about to pick Leslie, young, thin, cute. But she was being kind of standoff-ish, so I went with a known good time, Brisa.

The 9 pm closing time is still being enforced, so show up at or before 8 pm if you want to enjoy your full hour.That's good to know about Luxxor.

Was going to go last week until I ran out of money :-)

Vanessa was the blond lesbo chick, right?

Espina Heart
08-17-05, 15:30
Hell yes it's political, Gov R is a Dem and GW is a Rep. GW refuses to do ANYTHING about illegal immigration.

But, I did not post it as a political discussion, I posted as a heads up to mongers that shit may be going down there and it's something we all should be aware of. Who knows what will happen, just a heads up, that's all.Cool. I agree. Its a charade, albeit with very serious consequences, and to evoke Dylan, like the chicas [this is often a good thing], "the times, they are a-changin'."

Espina Heart
08-17-05, 15:40
Vanessa was the blond lesbo chick, right?Vanessa (formerly of Luxxor) was, err, is a brunette, last seen with red highlights, small titties, one of the most fantastic asses on the planet, who knows how to use it oh so well. I am still in mourning. The blonde was probably Vico, but I have no knowledge of her, personal, whereabouts, or otherwise.

BorderJumper
08-17-05, 18:09
Not going to be any better this week when Sean Hannity and his company of idiots descend on El Paso to pander to the right wing whackos!

Storm Rider #2
08-18-05, 02:59
[/QUOTE]Zuzax

Anyway, while having a couple of after session beers, the bar was visited by the Juarez policia. They lined up all the girls and were doing an ID check for minors. I actually think they just came in for entertainment purposes. Most of the policia were just walking around with big smiles on their faces while a couple of the others were checking the ID's. It actually seemed like they were just flirting with the girls instead of doing their job. Well there was one guy who took the job seriously. To be honest, he kind of scared me. He was all dressed in his commando uniform and armed with some kind of rifle. You would think he was ready for war. The guy never smiled and he had a I hate the world look on his face. Sheesh, can we leave the major artillery in the policia van next time.

Zuzax[/QUOTE]What you met there was more than likely a federale. Especially if the uniform was gray and he was sporting an M16.

You're right, absolutely no sense of humor. These guys team up with Policia Municipal a couple of times yearly to make weapons and drug sweeps at the bars. Another thing about them, too...they are a lot harder to talk into a mordita since Fox has been in office. Steer a wide path, if possible.

Still missing CJ,

Storm Rider

Cienega32
08-18-05, 08:55
I am much more intensely alarmed, disgusted, and sickened by the fact that starting January 1, we must carry a US Passport to walk over the bridge. Don't know about MX (and you can be sure it will change for the worse), but currently in Costa Rica the black market rate for a stolen US Passport is $400US. I'm going to feel alot less safe carrying the damn obvious gringo-block-o-gold in the ciudad next year. Thanks alot, W.

Spine
The current dates given by the US government are:

December 31, 2005: A passport or other accepted document will be required for all air/sea travel to or from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Central and South America.

December 31, 2006: A passport or other accepted document will be required for all air/sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada.

December 31, 2007: A passport or other accepted document will be required for all air/sea AND land border crossings.

The "Smart Passport" is already being processed and there are plans for a frequent crosser type card as well.

Member #2479
08-18-05, 10:57
Getting back on topic I went to Venus Massage on Lincoln Ave on Tuesday afternoon and the place was packed all the girls where busy, but just yesterday Wednesday afternoon I went and the place was empty all girls free go figure.

All free except for Michelle that lil B Hid because she dislikes me, she is very pretty face and body but she really is a pain in the neck, she dislike you kissing her anywhere and will let you know she covers her face while you are on top of her so she doesn’t smell your breath, she puts her arm btw you and her holding the condom on so the condoms doesn’t slip that is very uncomfortable, she is truly a YMMV kind of girl, I really hate her attitude, I would really like to rough her up “pa que se eduque” (so she stops being a lil c)

Well on Wednesday I went looking for Michelle but instead I got a new girl nice young 22 yo thin bleach blond don’t know her name nice girl gave me a kiss on my face when I finished.

Look for Gina Ryder on google and tell me if she looks like Venus Michelle.

Oh and by the way I’m not taking anymore pictures because some jerks here flame me. I don’t deserve that shit. I Pay a lot of money to the girls to take their pictures.

Mugroso
08-18-05, 11:02
Not going to be any better this week when Sean Hannity and his company of idiots descend on El Paso to pander to the right wing whackos!

Thats great. When will they be in town? I'd like to attend and support the team.


The Filthy (conservative) One

Gallo Ingles
08-18-05, 13:04
I thought this article might be of interest to the forum. It is nice to know that the ladies are taking care of themselves, but it certainly reinforces the need to keep that guy covered at all times.

Araly Castañon

EL DIARIO

The health unit II of the State Health Dept. provided attention to 218 sex workers during the first three months of the year. They were given a monthly vaginal exam to screen for STDs, but were not issued any health cards, said Alvaro Valenzuela Grajeda, assistant director.

He explained that the illness most frequently seen are minor infections that can be cured, most frequently found is genital candidiasis, a fungus that can occur with a lack of hygiene and stress, among other factors.

The next most common is trichomoniasis, a more severe infection. The doctor said that sex workers are seen once a month and at predetermined times they are tested for HIV and cancer.

He added that persons with positive results are provided free treatment.

He stated that last year 1,259 cases of candidiasis were detected, down from 1,871 in 2003. There were 897 women with trichomoniasis in 2004 and 829 in 2003.

Infections of gonnorhea and syphilis were found, but in fewer cases.

For example, in 2003 there were nine sex workers with syphillis and seventeen last year. In 2003 there were 49 cases of gonnorhea and eleven in 2004, said the doctor.

He explained that the sex workers on their own go to the SES clinic where they inform the doctors of their occupation which permits them to maintain records of previous visits.

Eighty percent of them go to the clinic in the downtown area.

Valenzuela said that other tests are given twice a year for cervical/uterine cancer or hepatitis C and once a year for AIDS. The results of these exams are kept separately from those of the general population and were not revealed.

He explained that the State Health Dept. does not issue any sort of health card to the sex workers. They attend the clinic on their own once a month or whenever they feel a checkup is needed.

Original Spanish

Araly Castañon
EL DIARIO
La Jurisdicción Sanitaria II de los Servicios Estatales de Salud (SES) atendió en el primer trimestre de este año a 218 trabajadoras sexuales, a las cuales se les practica una revisión vaginal mensual para detectar enfermedades de transmisión sexual, pero no se les entrega ninguna tarjeta de salud, aseguró el subdirector, Álvaro Valenzuela Grajeda.

Explicó que las enfermedades que lleguen a presentar son infecciones leves que se curan con tratamiento, la más frecuente es la candidiasis genital que es un hongo que se puede presentar por falta de higiene y estrés, entre otros factores.

Luego sigue la tricomoniasis que es una infección más severa. El médico dijo que las trabajadoras sexuales acuden cada mes a revisión médica, y cada determinado tiempo a pruebas de cáncer y de VIH-sida-

Agregó que en caso de que salgan positivas a una enfermedad se les proporciona tratamiento gratuito.

Dijo que el año pasado se detectaron mil 259 casos de candidiasis, mientras que en el 2003 fueron mil 871. Además, hubo 897 mujeres con tricomoniasis en el 2004 y 829 en el 2003.

Asimismo, se presentaron otras infecciones y gonorrea y sífilis, aunque en menores casos.

Por ejemplo en el 2003 hubo nueve sexoservidoras que presentaron sífilis y 17 el año pasado, en el 2003 fueron 49 casos de gonorrea y 11 en el 2004, indicó el médico.

Explicó que las trabajadoras sexuales acuden por su propia voluntad a los Centros de Salud de los SES donde notifican a los médicos cual es su ocupación, a fin de tener un registro para las consultas posteriores.

El 80 por ciento de ellas va a la unidad de salud que se encuentra en la zona Centro.

Valenzuela dijo que unas dos veces al año se practican otras pruebas como de cáncer cervicoúterino o hepatitis C, y una vez al año de sida, pero los resultados de esos exámenes no los tiene separados de los del resto de la población en general, por lo que no pudo darlos a conocer.

Explicó que los Servicios Estatales de Salud no proporcionan alguna credencial de salud a los sexoservidoras, ellas acuden por su voluntad cada mes, o cuando deseen pertinente ir a revisión.

Coyote79
08-18-05, 13:36
Vanessa (formerly of Luxxor) was, err, is a brunette, last seen with red highlights, small titties, one of the most fantastic asses on the planet, who knows how to use it oh so well. I am still in mourning. The blonde was probably Vico, but I have no knowledge of her, personal, whereabouts, or otherwise.But I thought the brunette with red highlights & small tits was Erica.

I saw her twice.

Yeah I know Vico was the blond Member #2479 went crazy for.

The other blond lesbo chick who goes into rigor mortis during the session was Vanessa.

Is this right?

Coyote79
08-18-05, 13:38
The current dates given by the US government are:

December 31, 2005: A passport or other accepted document will be required for all air/sea travel to or from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Central and South America.

December 31, 2006: A passport or other accepted document will be required for all air/sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada.

December 31, 2007: A passport or other accepted document will be required for all air/sea AND land border crossings.

The "Smart Passport" is already being processed and there are plans for a frequent crosser type card as well.Last I heard that was the original proposal, but after Bush saw it he ordered that it be studied more.

Mugroso
08-18-05, 23:33
Gallo Ingles

Thank you for your work at translating and posting the Diario article. We see and discuss many aspects of the hobby and give consideration to the possibilities of dieseases but rarely do we have some true statistical insight.

A wake up call or slap in the face is just what we need. It is much better than the alternative.

When I go out to hobby or gather information on the latest for my website I make mental notes of how many ladies are present. The numbers given in the article seem a bit much but for the sake of our health I will not doubt them. But I speculate this, the ladies are very diligent about condom use and many members of LOJ are very conscious about condom use. I have encountered very few risk takers.

I suspect the ladies that become infected is a result of their worthless boyfriends fooling around. Any guy that sends his woman to work like that isn't the greatest type of person in the world.

The ladies who I have encountered that are sloppy (or eager) about being poked without a rubber raise this red flag with me; they are either pregnant or know they have the shit. This increases awareness with me.

Again, thank you for your post.

Mugroso

Coyote79
08-19-05, 23:51
Luxxor is doing upsell now, and not telling mongers ahead of time.

Went there today and paid $40 for Cora--short, cute & kind-of bitter. After about 10 minutes of foreplay, she won’t do full-service w/o another $20. I complain to the manager—who just tells me “what did you do to her?” and “you know the $40 is for only one act.”

No, I didn’t know that, and I’ve been there about 10 times.

Left immediately unhappy & frustrated. Avoid.

Mugroso
08-19-05, 23:51
I believe the topic of the Ciudad Juarez thread is, Ciudad Juarez. This includes any discussions on bars, massage parlors, street girls, resturants, hotels, travel, passports. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the ladies. (muah)

There are members here who could be called Juarez o philes. These are people who appreciate Juarez for its many aspects. Juarez isn't the prettiest city in Mexico but a lover of Juarez will see notice little things the average doesn't bother to see. And he doesn't rough up the ladies no matter how nasty they are, he just does't bother with her on the next visit.

Mugroso

BorderJumper
08-20-05, 02:34
Thats great. When will they be in town? I'd like to attend and support the team.


The Filthy (conservative) One

Yeah, I think you would too you little shit! I tried calling you yesterday to advise you of how this holier than thou cocksucker was dissing the town we all love/hate!

This time he wasn't pretending to bunny hop across the border for the camera like he did in Arizona (making very sure to keep both feet in the nuetral zone).

Rather this time he was standing with the Border PAtrol looking at a "hole in the fence" and gazing upon a garbage dump upon which sat dwellings. And of course commenting on the lack of health care, lack of society and morals in the poor pathetic 3rd world country that is obviously the cause of all troubles that the United States encounters!

I think even you Muggsy, conservative that you think you are would have been disgusted at this pandering poohboy!

(I am sitting here writing this and trying not to laugh my ass off at you my friend becvause we all know you are not near as conservative as you think. I mean. I mean a George "fuck the middle class" W. Bush conservative would NEVER visit a ***** house in Mexico! Remember, Sex is nasty accoridng to the Falwells of the world!)

Cienega32
08-20-05, 04:42
I believe the topic of the Ciudad Juarez thread is, Ciudad Juarez. This includes any discussions on bars, massage parlors, street girls, resturants, hotels, travel, passports. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the ladies. (muah)

There are members here who could be called Juarez o philes. These are people who appreciate Juarez for its many aspects. Juarez isn't the prettiest city in Mexico but a lover of Juarez will see notice little things the average doesn't bother to see. And he doesn't rough up the ladies no matter how nasty they are, he just does't bother with her on the next visit.

MugrosoYeah I figure the passport thing fit as well being that we'll need them to cross the border in order to HAVE InternationalSex. But, as shown elsewhere in the post, some people just miss the point all together.

Mugroso
08-20-05, 06:41
(I am sitting here writing this and trying not to laugh my ass off at you my friend becvause we all know you are not near as conservative as you think. I mean. I mean a George "fuck the middle class" W. Bush conservative would NEVER visit a ***** house in Mexico! Remember, Sex is nasty accoridng to the Falwells of the world!)

I am reminded of a political joke I once heard. It goes like this.

Set up, Why do young Republican men bang young democrat women?
Punch, we had to learn about sex from somebody. Right?

And don't forget, the fema-nazis lean to the left.

And to keep things on topic I am sure most of the ladies I have banged in Mexico would be democrats if they lived over here.

Your friend with a different view.
Mugroso

BorderJumper
08-20-05, 20:10
Actually Cienega, with the administration targeting men who travel for sex, we may be falling into their trap with the passport thing!

Cienega32
08-20-05, 20:46
Actually Cienega, with the administration targeting men who travel for sex, we may be falling into their trap with the passport thing!
What the hell. "They" want to outsource everything else! I'm just trying to be a good American!

Gwinnett Male
08-21-05, 00:05
Guys was in El Paso this week and hopped across the border a few times for recreation. I must say in the main bar area on the right of the Santa Fe bridge the quality of ladies have diminished greatly over the last year. Most of the bars were hit or miss, I went in most some exiting as soon as I went in, selection was way off!! Careful of the Tranny town just west of Queens bar, I never realized how aggresive these "ladies" can be.

However, I did take the recommendation of a local, a place called the Paradise Massage just over the Cordova bridge in a office complex. You would miss it if you weren't looking for it. I must say the rooms were so so, but the talent was very nice, very accomidation, non rushed, and no upsell. I would recommend it to anyone, it's easy to find just let me know if you need some gringo directions. $0.4 for 1 full hour plus and anything you wanted.

Stay safe

Gntlman Mongr
08-21-05, 00:16
Fortunately I have sat in a bar in Juarez with Mugorso and Border Jumper and know they are good friends. It is interesting the difference in people that share our favorite hobby. I had Bill R. in my office the other day and yes he is definitely posturing for something. “You never know who you will meet on this forum”.

I live in a one industry town that is heavily dependent on the military. A few years back they sent one quarter of the town to Texas and after a year congress decided it was a bad idea and everyone came back It sent the local economy on a roller coaster ride. It has not been the only time that politics has greatly affected our town. So I am very respectful of the politics. Most of the time it is not fair and a bad idea but some politician decides it is good for him or his carrier and away we go.

What scares me more then politicians are people on crusades and sometimes they are one in the same. Look at the McCarthy era in the '50s. These people do not care how many people they hurt or if the cause is right or wrong all they are interested in is getting their name out there. Don't get your hopes up liberals there are just as many of you if not more on crusades with no idea of right or wrong out there.

I definitely feel for the Mexicans and and their difficulties. Many Americans think that the Mexicans are where they are because of their culture with all their corruption. I see it as US policy towards their country that corrupts their culture. I would probably be called a liberal but I have less and less respect for politicians on either side all the time.

I think it will get much worse before it gets better. The border politics really seem to be heating up these days and the politicians do not care who it hurts.

Sorry about the cynical attitude of politicians for all of you politicians out there.


On another subject as for Member #2479;

“Quote from Member#2479”

I would really like to rough her up “pa que se eduque” (so she stops being a lil c)
.....
Oh and by the way I’m not taking anymore pictures because some jerks here flame me. I don’t deserve that shit. I Pay a lot of money to the girls to take their pictures.

“End of quote”

There are girls out there that treat us bad and take advantage of us but usually I would rather just not see her again or if she was really bad I would flame her on the forum which I have done in the past. I have never thought of physical violence. You may want to call me a wimp or flame me about not standing up for myself but life is to short for conflicts if I wanted that I would have stayed married. Unless that is what turns you on which it sounds like it does. I am not sure it matters if mostly you only conflict with the bad ones. But usually I find that guys like you have difficult situations with the nice ones as well. I hope you do not consider this a flame, it is not meant that way. I hope you find what you are looking for but we are very protective of those jewels we find across the border that put a smile on our face and make our day just that much better.

I am sure that most of the girls that you have been with are thankful of your generosity. I am not threaten by it. I have spent far more on women in the past. Look at my ex-wife.

I am a live and let live sort of guy. So I enjoy the diversity of this board. I hope that a moralistic or political crusader doesn't **** up our favorite hobby.

Enjoy guys,

Gntlman Mongr

Mugroso
08-21-05, 14:23
However, I did take the recommendation of a local, a place called the Paradise Massage just over the Cordova bridge in a office complex. You would miss it if you weren't looking for it. I must say the rooms were so so, but the talent was very nice, very accomidation, non rushed, and no upsell. I would recommend it to anyone, it's easy to find just let me know if you need some gringo directions. $0.4 for 1 full hour plus and anything you wanted.
Stay safe

I haven't been to Paraiso in quite a while. The last few times the quality had fallen so I stopped going. Prior to that I would be rushed and upsold. Maybe that led to its downfall but it sounds like things are picking up again.

I suppose I could ask about the beauty of the ladies at Paraiso but then again this MP is only 3 and a half minutes driving from the border.

Mugroso

Mugroso
08-21-05, 14:43
"Fortunately I have sat in a bar in Juarez with Mugorso and Border Jumper,"

Thank you, that Mongerpalooza was the first time I met you guys and it was fortunate for me to have met you.

"A few years back they sent one quarter of the town to Texas,"

Ft. Bliss is expecting the arrival of over 11k troops over the next few years.

"Look at the McCarthy era in the '50s,"

Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of al-queda?

"On another subject as for Member #2479;"

“Quote from Member#2479”
Oh and by the way I’m not taking anymore pictures because some jerks here flame me. I don’t deserve that shit. I Pay a lot of money to the girls to take their pictures.
“End of quote”

I thank #2479 for not taking anymore pictures. They were nothing more than his pecker in some chicks pimple covered ass.

"I hope that a moralistic or political crusader doesn't **** up our favorite hobby."

Don't forget the fema-nazis who want to carry our balls in their purses and hang our peckers over the mantle.

Mugroso

Espina Heart
08-23-05, 16:24
Spank me if I'm wrong.Got one for you in fact. Yes, a chica report and no rant about politics, passports, or whether you hang right or left in those cargo shorts. Yvette of Genesis. Very pretty face, nose stud (uh-ohh!), big tits with her novio's nickname tatooed across one. Double uh-ohh. A bit too gorda, other tattoos, but, what the hell, we're back in the room. The first time she spanked me, hard, I thought, " wow, I'll just wager ole #2479 would not be having any of this!" as in "pa que se eduque, lil c." Well, I'm not of the ilk, so instead I turned an eye-opening bit-o-kink into quite a romping good time. While I did enjoy covering the tat with a clamp and twist to the point of getting her attention, I have to admit she came much harder than me. Takes all types.

Spine

Cienega32
08-25-05, 03:30
Got one for you in fact. Yes, a chica report and no rant about politics, passports, or whether you hang right or left in those cargo shorts. Yvette of Genesis. Very pretty face, nose stud (uh-ohh!), big tits with her novio's nickname tatooed across one. Double uh-ohh. A bit too gorda, other tattoos, but, what the hell, we're back in the room. The first time she spanked me, hard, I thought, " wow, I'll just wager ole #2479 would not be having any of this!" as in "pa que se eduque, lil c." Well, I'm not of the ilk, so instead I turned an eye-opening bit-o-kink into quite a romping good time. While I did enjoy covering the tat with a clamp and twist to the point of getting her attention, I have to admit she came much harder than me. Takes all types.

SpineWhenever I'm felling a little 2479ish I think a good spanking might be what I need.

Sounds like you had fun! Cost?

Mugroso
08-25-05, 08:58
Whenever I'm felling a little 2479ish I think a good spanking might be what I need.

Sounds like you had fun! Cost?

Isn't spanking sometimes refered to as "English". If so wouldn't being "2479ish" call for some "bad English"? :)

Coyote79
08-25-05, 09:04
Luxxor is doing upsell now, and not telling mongers ahead of time.

Went there today and paid $40 for Cora--short, cute & kind-of bitter. After about 10 minutes of foreplay, she won’t do full-service w/o another $20. I complain to the manager—who just tells me “what did you do to her?” and “you know the $40 is for only one act.”

No, I didn’t know that, and I’ve been there about 10 times.

Left immediately unhappy & frustrated. Avoid.I’ve been getting pms about this, so let me elaborate.

The manager I dealt with is that lady, Stuart’s partner (I can’t pronounce her name) she isn’t exactly what you’d call customer service orientated.

When I complained about the upsell our conversation went something like this. . .
‘she wants more money’
“What did you do to her?!”
She asks the provider something.
“You know the $40 is only for one act!”
‘No, I didn’t’
“You need to get out of here—this is an entrance area”
(I was wrapped in a towel)
Gets on the phone. . .”Hello Stuart. . .you know that Army friend of yours?”
(I left the room—can’t hear her)
BTW I’m not in the Army.

No one ever told me about this.
Natalia, Erica, & Carla did both—no extra charge.

If you’re going to Luxxor I recommend calling first so you can work with Stuart instead of this lady.

Espina Heart
08-26-05, 00:32
Sounds like you had fun! Cost?Genesis is $30, plus a $10 tip. Oh yeah it was fun.


Isn't spanking sometimes refered to as "English". If so wouldn't being "2479ish" call for some "bad English"? :)"English" as in the backhand spin you put on the ball? That's pretty close to an accurate description of what I experienced anyway. Wonder how well bad english tips?

Chico X
08-26-05, 07:30
Hello fellow mongers,

First of all I want to introduce myself. Although I have been reading your posts for about a year and a half this would be my first post and im very excited about it. I am a young guy still bearly 19, but I've been doing this for a while now a lil before I started reading these posts. Also I do want to thank all of you guys out there very much who put posts up, they have been really helpful in finding mp's i didn't know about and entertainment.

I have held off on putting a post up before because I wanted my first one to be a useful one. And today i found out something really interesting. After drinking a couple of beers this afternoon in Pockets for a couple of hours with some friends I felt the urge to hit the room with a girl. Unfortunately it was almost gonna be 9:00 pm, after drinking some more for 30 minutes I decided I would check out the Centro since it is pretty much the only place you can get action after 9 pm.

So I left Pockets and was making my way to the Centro, as I passed by infront of Venus Massage Parlor (next to Bachus strip club) i noticed the lights in Venus were still on. So I made a U turn up front and decided to go in the parking lot to see if there were still girls there.(nothing to loose right?) So as I drive in the parking lot the parquero asks me if im interested in a massage, (damn he just read my mind). So I said yeah and he told me to go in. By this time it was about 9:35. As I walk inside I'm surprised to see six girls still working. And very decent girls i say about 4 of them were extremely hot, and the other 2 not bad, pretty decent. I get explained the price is 500 pesos after 9 instead of the usually 400, i tell them that i only have 40 dlls and they agree to it. So I pick this "blonde" girl about 22 probably (didn't ask, and I'm really bad at names so I can't recall hers) long hair nice and thin, B cups and a great ass and I do mean great ass. Went into the room and had a begining to end awsome time, she was extremely nice and treated me awsomely. Had a great massage and a great experience, girl knows how to work her magic.

By the time I was leaving it was about 10:20 and as i walk out i see another 3 girls still working there(don't know if more where in the rooms busy). All in all a great time, unlike other times I have gone and the girls are really stuck up and sometimes rush you. So I guess things have changed there, hopefully girls will stay that way there because they do have really good quality girls.

So my contribution here is that Venus massage parlor is open after 9, don't know how late but still open at 10:30, that there are great girls and they have a better attitude now. Hope this information is useful and you guys who look for action after 9 and like mp's go check it out.

Thanks again to all of you who puts posts up.

Bbond
08-26-05, 15:12
I haven't been to Paraiso in quite a while. The last few times the quality had fallen so I stopped going. Prior to that I would be rushed and upsold. Maybe that led to its downfall but it sounds like things are picking up again.
I suppose I could ask about the beauty of the ladies at Paraiso but then again this MP is only 3 and a half minutes driving from the border.

Mugroso


Consistency is always an issue in the MPs. I have had excellent service in Parasio, and upsell there too. Last trip I took a coupon from the newspaper the advertised 200 pesos, they told me it was for 20 mins only, so I took a girl back to room she got naked and sat on table, I did her while standing, took a shower and left. They charge 300 - 400 pesos normally and I have seen some real lookers there as well as some gorditas.
Genesis, for me anyway has the most consistant service, always 300 pesos, shower before and after, and usually something acceptable to take to room.
Marylins too, but fewer girls to chose from than Genesis. Have also had very good experiences at Corpus, Loryed, and several other MPs. Other times I just excuse my self and go somewhere else. There have been days that I hit 5 or 6 MPs and found nothing I would even consider paying for. Last trip to Genesis, I took a girl, who I thought would be acceptable, turned out she was great. When hitting MPs Marylins is always my first stop, then on to Genesis, cause it is close to there, if I don't find anything.

Pimpollo
08-27-05, 08:38
Can you tell me which is the best at Genesis, and the quality of the service?


Consistency is always an issue in the MPs. I have had excellent service in Parasio, and upsell there too. Last trip I took a coupon from the newspaper the advertised 200 pesos, they told me it was for 20 mins only, so I took a girl back to room she got naked and sat on table, I did her while standing, took a shower and left. They charge 300 - 400 pesos normally and I have seen some real lookers there as well as some gorditas.

Genesis, for me anyway has the most consistant service, always 300 pesos, shower before and after, and usually something acceptable to take to room.

Marylins too, but fewer girls to chose from than Genesis. Have also had very good experiences at Corpus, Loryed, and several other MPs. Other times I just excuse my self and go somewhere else. There have been days that I hit 5 or 6 MPs and found nothing I would even consider paying for. Last trip to Genesis, I took a girl, who I thought would be acceptable, turned out she was great. When hitting MPs Marylins is always my first stop, then on to Genesis, cause it is close to there, if I don't find anything.

Coyote79
08-27-05, 11:46
Last night went mongering at Cleo's.

First two girls didn't work out.

(one got offended when I tried to put my finger in her mouth, and the other bit me. The biter was so skanky she actually brought her cigarettes & ashtray with her into the room)

I tried to complain to the manager to get a refund. The old manager, a nice lady in her 30s, wasn’t around.

The new manager/owner is a thin, tall man who looks about 35 to 40.
This arrogant asshole is actually mad at me.

“You tried to put your finger in her mouth? IS THIS TRUE?!! This is a nice place you can’t do anything strange here! Choose a lady now!”

Then he just walks away.

So I don’t have many options, so I make my third choice, Mieta (sp).

She was about a 6. But she did provide a good time.

But still Cleo’s is NOT recommended.

Cienega32
08-28-05, 20:56
That's a damn shame about Cleo's. They were always my half-time playground during football. Never had a bad time. The "Q" may have been low on the chica level from time to time but the activities were always right on.

Bbond
08-29-05, 01:31
Can you tell me which is the best at Genesis, and the quality of the service?

I have not been there in a while, but if you see a girl you like, there is a very good chance she will be worth the money spent. The only disappointment I have ever had there was the girl was heavier than she looked in the lobby.

Coyote79
08-29-05, 04:07
That's a damn shame about Cleo's. They were always my half-time playground during football. Never had a bad time. The "Q" may have been low on the chica level from time to time but the activities were always right on.
Yeah first everything falls apart for me at Luxxor, and now Cleo's.

Guess I'm going to have to go trolling & check-out Genesis to see why you guys like it so much.

Cienega32
08-29-05, 11:49
Well, if it all goes down-hill I won't really know so there's a little plus there for me. Cleo's is the only place I've been to more than once. Encanto I tried only once.

I've been wanting to try the other joints but I guess I'll wait till they back in line...

Bbond
08-30-05, 05:04
Well, if it all goes down-hill I won't really know so there's a little plus there for me. Cleo's is the only place I've been to more than once. Encanto I tried only once.

I've been wanting to try the other joints but I guess I'll wait till they back in line...

El Encanto sucks, and that's sad, cause it used to be really good.......

Bbond
09-01-05, 01:54
I will be in Juarez from the evening of the 4th to the afternoon of the 6th if anyone wants to hook up for a couple beers..........staying at VMP prolly....

Espina Heart
09-01-05, 16:54
Hello fellow mongers Nice report! I am very much like you, as in a newbie to the Cd. Juazoo slice o' pussypie that constitutes this board, and like you have learned immensely from the wisdom shared here. The Sr. mbrs are to be given a collective round of applause from lurkers and contributors alike for their experience/knowledge so freely shared here (not to slight the guys trying to make a buck either, btw, DE, your J-Mex. com site ((I believe I am correct in assuming that this is your site)) has really incredibly enriched my life south of the border beyond the mps and bars!).

So, great new info on "after hours" "massages," as well as on Venus (I keep thinking I'll like this place even tho' the $40 + upselling, because of the beauties they collect, ((btw try M. Europeo a few blocks away run by the same guy(s?)) but am usually miserably dissappointed). Kinda like Coyote and Cleo's. Man, ever since Border Jumper (I think it was him) replied to my complaint about Venus as in "why go back if you keep having a bad time, screw 'em," it rings so true and louder in my ears every trip. Cleo's could be great, being so close to the bridge for one last yeehaw after an excellent day elsewhere, but why bother if the result is just going to cost you anger and less gas money to head back north.

Just a thought or two, and Chico X, you must be a wise young man. Sure wish I'd gotten into mongering at the thrashing age of 19! Enjoy, my son.

Spine

Dougie
09-03-05, 22:27
Thank you, that Mongerpalooza was the first time I met you guys and it was fortunate for me to have met you.

When's the next one gonna be??

Dougie
09-03-05, 22:47
I can't seem to figure out how to do the quote thing with the box around it.

Well, clicking on the "quote" button at the bottom of the message you are quoting is supposed to do it for you, but in case it doesn't.......the syntax is like this.

You enclose the text you want to quote with "quote" or "quote=username" at the beginning and "/quote" at the end, replacing the parentheses with brackets [].

There is other syntax that MAY work on the software jackson is using, like "url" "/url" to insert a URL and "img" "/img" to insert an image, again replacing the parentheses with brackets. I have not tried it. You MAY also be able to combine the "url" and the "img" commands to insert a thumbnail image which when you click on it pops up a new window with the full size image of the thumbnail. I haven't experimented with that one either, not on this board anyway, but I have done it on others. You can name the links and images too, and make the name "clickable". You're computer literate, so fiddle with it a bit. I will too when I get the chance.

You can have fun with this, BTW.....for example:




Hi, I'm Member 2479. I don't have enough imagination to come up with a handle of my own so I just use the one assigned to me by the software when I signed up for the board. I'm banned from most of the strip clubs in town for being an abusive *******, and I think I'm tough because I slap defenseless women around.

See, ain't that a kick?

Dougie
09-03-05, 22:49
Here's Mug's Ladies of Juarez (http://www.**************.com) website, let's see if the link clicks.

Gntlman Mongr
09-04-05, 02:33
Well, clicking on the "quote" button at the bottom of the message you are quoting is supposed to do it for you, but in case it doesn't The syntax is like this.

See, ain't that a kick?Boy, this seems to simple for me. I guess if it doesn't have naked pictures attached to it I can't figure it out.

Thanks,

Gntlman Mongr

Mugroso
09-04-05, 07:14
As I am sure many of you know 16 September is Mexican Independence Day. So how about we be good neighbors and throw a Mongerpalooza and celebrate. This will be a 2 day event the 16th and 17th to accommodate travelers. "El Grito" the shout for independence is on the evening of the 15th. If at all possible try to experience this in Mexico, it is really something else.

Here are the details. We will meet at the usual place, Plaza Mariachi at 6pm on both days. We will have a "get to know" at the Kentucky Bar to put the names to the faces then head out and ravage the ladies of Juarez. Depending on attendance we will likely split up into groups.

This time the gathering is different being a 2 day event and it will also be open to non members of **************.com with the exception of Inmate 2479 but then again he doesn't like downtown skanks (his words). Other wise, what the hell, the more the merrier.

Mugroso

Cienega32
09-05-05, 18:00
When's the next one gonna be??

Damn, SoupBoy! I thought you fell off the face of the planet! Good to see you back in here!

BorderJumper
09-07-05, 03:48
Here's Mug's Ladies of Juarez (http://www.**************.com) website, let's see if the link clicks.


Whoa..wait a minute here. It looks like a conservative right wing conspiracy promoting Mugs site without giving equal time to a moderate left website. So permit me to offer Ladies of Nuevo Laredo & LG Mexico Forums (http://www.ladiesofnuevolaredo.com)

Fair and balanced! right Mugsy!

Member #2479
09-08-05, 10:30
This board is full of lamers and traitors.

Like some members I know that are visiting Pay Hooker forums on the side.

But in a lighter note I visited Club Eden last night on Tecnologico Ave and Zaragoza I think, Nice Ladies Bar a couple of lookers the rest fat city

Well In Eden I met this Awesome very Thin No Babies NO stretch marks 21 year old very pretty except her face aparents more age.

Got her standing up downstairs in the Private area, Dont ask how much I Paid for that, next time I will take her to the motel and take pictures, by the way her c-unt juice smelled very nice on doggie position, unlike the stinky centro skanks.

Overall great discovery for me this Club Eden.

Bachelor Warrior
09-10-05, 16:25
About a week ago, I got back to the "Red House" after a long absence. It was a Wednesday night about 9:30.

There were lots of customers, some of whom were a little rowdier than usual. The selection of girls was about the same as I remembered and no real "stunners" to report. Overall, it was good and I would recommend going.

One of the bar "girls" that was there is named "Laura" and she is a lesbian, heartless so-and-so.

Before I knew better, I tried her at the Panama a long time ago. I was very, very nice to her, but she just would not do anything. I complained to the manager, but got nowhere. Several months later and after a large number of drinks, I found her intriguing enough that I tried again. That time the "sex", if you can call it that, was cold and mechanical. But the worst thing was that she cleaned my wallet out when my back was turned. I didn't notice the theft until long after I had left. Yeah, I know, I was stupid. But I said I was drunk! I think she only got about $80.

Laura is in her late 30s I would guess. I think her real name might be Michelle. She dresses well. She has a different look than most of the chicas because she has light-colored skin, light brown hair, a large nose, and is fairly tall. When she has her hair pulled back tight to her head, she has, in my opinion, a classic "Mexicana" look. She reminds me a little of how Jennifer Lopez's face looks, but this gal isn't nearly that good looking of course. The other night at Casa Colorada she had her hair all frizzed out.

She's changed a lot in the last year or so. Her legs are much, much skinnier and are real "chicken" legs now. She is much thicker around the middle and keeps something on around her waist while dancing to hide it. She never had much up top and that certainly hasn't changed any. If you look close, I would only rate her about a 6 or even a 5, but she has an way about her somehow that always attracts male companionship in the bar.

At the Casa, she was sitting with a guy who was obviously feeling no pain and who had bought her a drink. On her way back from the "bano" or wherever, I watched her dump about half of her "copa" into an ashtray behind his back.

I recommend this gal to member #2479. He's probably the one man who could win her heart.

BW

Dougie
09-10-05, 22:11
Damn, SoupBoy! I thought you fell off the face of the planet! Good to see you back in here!

Not off, just to one edge of it.

Tried the soup recipe, it just wasn't the same, or at least it did not SEEM the same. But then I don't have any of those pewter bowls to head up red hot either. I'll find some and try again. Damn PROGRESS, tearing all the good OLD stuff down to make room for gaudy, new SHIT.

Kid03
09-11-05, 21:11
Any One?

Thanks

Bbond
09-12-05, 01:13
Any One?

Thanks

There are many places to visit. The best is a matter of opinion and what time of day you want to monger.

If you tell us specifically what you look for, and what time of day you'll be looking, more specific recommendations will follow.

Cienega32
09-12-05, 02:50
I agree with bbond. It's all subjective.

Best bet would be to go back a year in posts and just kind of quickly skim thru them all. Draw your own conclusions according to what you're looking for and pay more attention to those posts. Throw the name of that joint into a search and see what's up. After you spend a little time reading what Juarez has to offer the monger , you'll find something that makes you say "That be what I like".

Some of us like the El Centro feel of the crooked potholed street bars - others like the "upper tier" massage parlours and one or two of us like to throw a lot of money at girls who say they've never done this type of thing before.

Coyote79
09-12-05, 04:42
I agree with bbond. It's all subjective.

Best bet would be to go back a year in posts and just kind of quickly skim thru them all. Draw your own conclusions according to what you're looking for and pay more attention to those posts. Throw the name of that joint into a search and see what's up. After you spend a little time reading what Juarez has to offer the monger , you'll find something that makes you say "That be what I like".

Some of us like the El Centro feel of the crooked potholed street bars - others like the "upper tier" massage parlours and one or two of us like to throw a lot of money at girls who say they've never done this type of thing before.
u & bbond think too much
Listing ur top 5 would be help all us mongers

Bbond
09-12-05, 05:35
u & bbond think too much
Listing ur top 5 would be help all us mongers

My top 5.
Daytime: (1)Genesis and (2)Marylin's MPs.
Nighttime: (3)Casa Colorada, (4)Pink Ladies and (5)Club Panama.

But there are many many more, just a matter of familiarity, and preference, for me

Mugroso
09-12-05, 13:15
Any One?

Thanks
I will break it down like this.

Bars
Alice and Charlies
Queens Place
Año Nuevo
Las Palmeras
HollyWood

Massage Parlors
Luxxor
Sirenas
Marilyns
Venus
Genesis

Be sure to check them all out for yourself and let us know how it went.

Mugroso

Kid03
09-13-05, 00:03
Well, I have been to all the below massage parlors. I was surprised not to see Europeas on the list. Any way, I have never been to any of the bars listed below. Reason being I never go near the downtown. But this time, I am planning on doing this. Can someone please let me know how it works in bars. Like I said, I have never been there. Can I take the girl to my Hotel. I will be at Villa Man port at Hermanos Escobar.

Thanks,

Kid


I will break it down like this.

Bars
Alice and Charlies
Queens Place
Año Nuevo
Las Palmeras
HollyWood

Massage Parlors
Luxxor
Sirenas
Marilyns
Venus
Genesis

Be sure to check them all out for yourself and let us know how it went.

Mugroso

El Chucotejas
09-13-05, 00:30
Your guys need to check out Bacchus, it on Abraham Lincoln Ave next to a nice restaurant called "Montana" behind a bank. The girl there are top notch, make most of the girls in the red-light district in downtown Juarez strip club, well if you guys do go you’ll see what I’m trying to say, most of the girls are yuppies because the why they carrier them self. This place was made to cater to the upscale class, so drink a little pricing and they do have a cover charge. Table dance are $20 in a privet booth and depending who your pick out it could get really hot. The Tuesday is this happing night no cover and beer is only 1.50 that night. Also Saturday theirs no cover and the Buchan’s is $2.50. But still the attractions of the place are the girl that music is good the girl but on a good show.

Bbond
09-13-05, 03:45
u & bbond think too much
Listing ur top 5 would be help all us mongers

I posted mine, although you can get pussy any of those listed by Mugroso, and lots of other places too. So now you know, but be sure to READ, READ, and then go back and READ. You can and will get taken in Juarez if you don't follow advice posted here.
Visit the places listed, draw you own conclusions.

Bbond
09-13-05, 03:58
This board is full of lamers and traitors.
Like some members I know that are visiting Pay Hooker forums on the side.


Who visits paid hooker sites, the dirty rats anyway...wait just a minute, I do.

Coyote79
09-13-05, 08:35
Well, I have been to all the below massage parlors. I was surprised not to see Europeas on the list. Any way, I have never been to any of the bars listed below. Reason being I never go near the downtown. But this time, I am planning on doing this. Can someone please let me know how it works in bars. Like I said, I have never been there.

HA HA!
Is this really an area you want to educate yourself on?
IMHO avoid the bars!

About a year ago another monger on this board advised me to avoid the bars because. . .
(1) no shower--do you really want that lady's bodily fluids coating your private areas for the next few hours? All kinds of nasty stuff grows in there.
(2) risky--higher chance of being ripped off.
(3) I think it costs more as well.
(4) filthy rooms & beds

He was right.

Coyote79
09-13-05, 08:40
My top 5.
Daytime: (1)Genesis and (2)Marylin's MPs.
Nighttime: (3)Casa Colorada, (4)Pink Ladies and (5)Club Panama.

But there are many many more, just a matter of familiarity, and preference, for me
tanks to bbond & Mug.
I'm car-challenged, any two MP within walking distance of each other?
I'm avoiding Cleo's & Luxxor.

Member #2479
09-13-05, 17:39
Not Sites, but Forums, hooker forums that compete with this one, Jackson the owner of this forum bans users who advertise competing hooker forums so be carefull.

I mean why would you post on a pay hooker forum? when you have this free one that is the biggest.



Who visits paid hooker sites, the dirty rats anyway...wait just a minute, I do.

Cienega32
09-13-05, 19:32
u & bbond think too much
Listing ur top 5 would be help all us mongers
I don't really have 5 of them to list. I keep getting stuck in the same old places. But then again - I like to hang in El Centro and usually just bounce around on the 4 corners. Virginia's, Queens, Las Vegas - that area. Las Palmeras down the street is another sentimental favorite of mine. Tho' sometimes I wonder why...

Sometimes I'll hang in the Ano Nuevo area.

Some favorites of mine might make other mongers scratch their heads. WHich is why I would suggest drawing your own conclusions as to what one might enjoy.

Sometimes I like to just sit around and drink with the girls.
Sometimes I like to just sit around and drink and watch the people.
Sometimes I like to just bang anything that walks by.

It's like a buffet of life. It's all subjective.

And it's a very good point about the lack of showers, etc. I usually get a room near-by so as to have a shower handy as well as a rest stop.

I've only ventured away from that area once as I usually leave the car at the border. Went to Villa Manport area to see what there was to see. Had a nice steak dinner, hit Encanto, and had a few drinks in a local type bar. I might stay at the Manport next trip out to take in more of it in that area.

Cienega32
09-13-05, 19:41
Not Sites, but Forums, hooker forums that compete with this one, Jackson the owner of this forum bans users who advertise competing hooker forums so be carefull.

I mean why would you post on a pay hooker forum? when you have this free one that is the biggest.
You mean to tell me that I should've ignore the WSG Charities pitch? Hell, it sounded like such a nice thing to do in appreciation of having this forum available.

That reminds me - time to send another money order to Jackson.

Mugroso
09-13-05, 23:09
Not Sites, but Forums, hooker forums that compete with this one, Jackson the owner of this forum bans users who advertise competing hooker forums so be carefull.

I mean why would you post on a pay hooker forum? when you have this free one that is the biggest.

My website, **************, really doesn't compete with this or any other forum, paid or not. I provide information and pics of the ladies. I have many years of experience in Juarez and how I choose to share is up to me.

The forum portion of LOJ is a bonus and it gives me a medium to post my latest updates and happening to members. If members choose to participate it is of their own volition. The forum is specific to Juarez and to other border towns I have visited (Nogales and Agua Prieta). Growth of LOJ will not depend on information provided by others. I am a hands on kind of guy (like any monger).

I do not advertise on this or any other site. I make mention of it as well as others who do (thanks Dougie for your latest mention).

Information and participation is up to the web surfing monger and we all do this because of our admiration for the ladies (something inmate 2479 has yet to learn).

Mugroso

Espina Heart
09-13-05, 23:54
Wow. Have to post just to see if I am indeed now senior like the email from Jackson announced. I am surprised and honored, but it is not as special a status now I believe. I remember Mugroso waxing nostalgic to one of my first posts on how it could be difficult to both join the forum and especially to reach senior status. Oh well, times change.

To make this a useful report, I mention Lis or Lisabeth at M. Europeo, whom I visited Mon. A pretty, small girl, cute face and big smile, really nice ass. She gave great oral after the $20 upsell (which is standard at both Europeo and Venus) and it was probably worth it, especially with the ball licking and tongue wandering elsewhere in the vicinity for a considerable time (I reminded her it was costing me after all). She then sat me in a chair and rode me till she came which was different and fun. After a bit of banging on the table afterwards though it was "ya, ya, duele." So a bit of a disappointing finale but she did help as best she could. She is from Chiapas and needs the money for her 2 ninos to the point of working in less than best conditions I guess. I wouldn't highly recommend her, but she was pretty, young and very sweet. Oh, and 2479, she had a beautiful c-section scar, so I'm sure she'd be comforted to know, if she could know, that you probably won't bother her.

Mugroso
09-14-05, 00:51
Wow. Have to post just to see if I am indeed now senior like the email from Jackson announced. I am surprised and honored, but it is not as special a status now I believe. I remember Mugroso waxing nostalgic to one of my first posts on how it could be difficult to both join the forum and especially to reach senior status. Oh well, times change.

Congrats Espina Heart.

Mugroso

Dougie
09-14-05, 01:54
I do not advertise on this or any other site. I make mention of it as well as others who do (thanks Dougie for your latest mention).

Don't mention it. In fact, I seem to have forgotton my password to Ladies of Juarez (http://www.**************.com). ;^) I shall have to check my old emails for it and stop in for a visit.

And to show you how fast things change in the old J-town, my last visit I settled into a pattern of visiting Cleo's, Felina's, Marilyn's, Luxxor and El Encanto. Most of those places seem to have fallen from favor lately.

Member #2479
09-14-05, 03:42
I wasnt talking about your site but of *******, but since this forum is going pay who cares, found the other site searching for masajes luxxor.

And since this site is charging money for my pics, you can take them to your site too, I hope you stop flaming me with this gesture, and hope you dont poo poo my pics since they are better looking than the centro putas,
you can clearly see the diference btw what $40 Vs $200 gets you in Juarez
I think **************.com should include all pro girls in Juarez even those who charge a lot.

I Speciallaize in the off Centro Clubs
Joker, Joker Premier, Amadeus, Placeres(Meduzas), Club 69, and Eden.




My website, **************, really doesn't compete with this or any other forum, paid or not. I provide information and pics of the ladies. I have many years of experience in Juarez and how I choose to share is up to me.

The forum portion of LOJ is a bonus and it gives me a medium to post my latest updates and happening to members. If members choose to participate it is of their own volition. The forum is specific to Juarez and to other border towns I have visited (Nogales and Agua Prieta). Growth of LOJ will not depend on information provided by others. I am a hands on kind of guy (like any monger).

I do not advertise on this or any other site. I make mention of it as well as others who do (thanks Dougie for your latest mention).

Information and participation is up to the web surfing monger and we all do this because of our admiration for the ladies (something inmate 2479 has yet to learn).

Mugroso

Gallo Ingles
09-14-05, 13:15
I also spent a lovely session with this pretty girl. Her oral skills were top notch, possibly the best I have had anywhere. Unfortunately she worked me so hard that it left a bright purple hickey on the end of my dick. I had to spend some tense moments over the next week keeping it hidden so as not to be discovered. Yikes

Espina Heart
09-14-05, 15:34
I also spent a lovely session with this pretty girl. Her oral skills were top notch, possibly the best I have had anywhere. Unfortunately she worked me so hard that it left a bright purple hickey on the end of my dick. I had to spend some tense moments over the next week keeping it hidden so as not to be discovered. Yikes
Yeah. Know what you mean. There was definitely teeth involved at times. Come to think of it, I better go take a look in the mirror.

Spine

Svtlord
09-14-05, 16:45
Any of you guys tried doing freaky stuff (ffm, toys, backdoor, etc) with the mp hoes? If so, who, what,where, when, how much?

Coyote79
09-14-05, 18:32
My website, **************, really doesn't compete with this or any other forum, paid or not. I provide information and pics of the ladies. I have many years of experience in Juarez and how I choose to share is up to me.

The forum portion of LOJ is a bonus and it gives me a medium to post my latest updates and happening to members. If members choose to participate it is of their own volition. The forum is specific to Juarez and to other border towns I have visited (Nogales and Agua Prieta). Growth of LOJ will not depend on information provided by others. I am a hands on kind of guy (like any monger).

I do not advertise on this or any other site. I make mention of it as well as others who do (thanks Dougie for your latest mention).

Information and participation is up to the web surfing monger and we all do this because of our admiration for the ladies (something inmate 2479 has yet to learn).

Mugroso
I do websites too, and I know how difficult it is to make any $$ at it.

You know what kind of site I would pay to see?
A map of J-town with all the MPs & bars listed on it with the addresses.
I have no idea where most of the places y'all write about are.

So who's feeling ambitious?

Coyote79
09-14-05, 18:34
I also spent a lovely session with this pretty girl. Her oral skills were top notch, possibly the best I have had anywhere. Unfortunately she worked me so hard that it left a bright purple hickey on the end of my dick. I had to spend some tense moments over the next week keeping it hidden so as not to be discovered. Yikes
to me that's not "top notch" oral skills--that's my fucking my worst nightmare oral skills!!

Gntlman Mongr
09-15-05, 04:03
Boy you guys have been busy. I went down to Puerto Penasco last week and while I was away there has been a lot of activity on this board.

I had trouble figuring how things worked at Jokers so I told you guys that I would do some reconnaissance. The last time I went there a few months ago I struck out for being to cheep. I had posted this experience earlier. This time I intended to fix that and had much better luck. I got a room at the Holiday Inn on Ave. Abraham Lincoln. It was $100./ night. I was worried that If I told them I was staying at the Villa Manport that might cause a problem so I decided to bite the bullet. I then left my car there and took a taxi over to Jokers as I did not know if the girls would ride with you back to the room and I wasn't going to leave it there.

The place had a number of nice looking girls. The music was mostly American which I liked but the patrons looked like mostly locals. I think this is interesting because all the long nights at the bars in the zona over the years that mostly only played Mexican music saying it was the girls that wanted it that way. I don't buy it for a second.

Most of the guys were sitting around the stage and no one was buying drinks for the girls. The drinks for the girls are $10. When they tipped it was just singles. I think that a lot of the guys could not afford much more and just come in to drink and watch the girls.

Most of the women there were very attractive looking with no real stunners and some I would not touch, every place seems to have some of them. The youngest looking one there came over to me and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I obliged. I think she said her name was Alisa and she said she was only 19yo. She also looked barely 19. She was 5'8” thin dark complected and very cute. The first thing she asked me was “Quantos anos tiene?” How old was I. My worst nightmare I told her I would tell her later. The last time I was there the lady I was with got a drink that was barely a shots worth and if there was any alcohol in it I doubt it. She went through 5 of them in 20 min. and it hurt. This young lady though got a regular looking drink and made it last. She asked me if I wanted her to go back to my hotel and I said yes but but I wanted to watch her dance first. She said she was up in a little bit and we waited. I gave her a $20. tip as she danced and she really seemed to like that. I was also getting very worked up for her by this time. Besides she could have made more money by just downing the drinks faster. I asked her how much and she said $300. This time I did not try to talk this girl down. I instead asked if she was any good and told her it was “mucho carro” a lot of money, mostly in a light hearted way mostly to provoke a desire in her to live up to my expectations. I then told her I was almost three times her age and asked if that was a problem and she said no. I paid the money to her there and she said she would get her things. It was only about 11:00 and I was in no hurry and thinking how sweet her personality was. She seemed somewhat shy and some subtle things made me think she was somewhat inexperienced at this. When we went outside she was surprised that I didn't have my car there and we had to wait for a taxi. As we waited for the taxi I realized that she was very nervous. Part of problem was in the age difference I could tell. She did not know any English and I tried to think of something to say to kid around and make her more comfortable but mostly she stayed nervous. My Spanish is still not that good. At this point I realized that she really was a deer in the headlights as I was absolutely in my element and I was very comfortable with the situation. It must be difficult for these women. They do not know me from anyone. If they went in my car I could take them anywhere. They did not even check me out to see if I had a room key or anything. I guess they feel for this kind of money they would take the risk. When we got to the hotel I heard her say “una hora” to the taxi driver and I interjected “dos horas” I also added that there was a taxi stand there and she could leave at any time. When we got into the room I gave her a $50. tip before we even got started “what the hell it's for research”. When she was naked I proceeded to give her a back rub to try to get her more comfortable but with limited success. She asked me if I had a condom and I thought that was strange. I asked her if she had any and she said no. I always have them but I am not sure what would have happened if I didn't. I am not sure I want to go there. Actually I forgot that in the years I have been taking these girls to my hotel they never have condoms with them I think it is a cultural thing if the carry condoms with them it makes them a tramp or something like that.

It was nice to go to a hotel with nice furnishings for a change and I am sure she liked it to. We were able to climb between the sheets and everything. I was quite a kick to watch this naked young thing climb into bed with me. It was nice to not have to check out the girl for needle marks or worry about how clean the place was. Unfortunately she said she did not do oral, another cultural thing. I have had this problem more in Mexico then anywhere else. She may have been nervous mentally but her body responded in a very different way. I really put it to her I had to get my monies worth you know. We went for a long time and she really put out. When I finished from behind I could tell she wasn't ready for me to finish and she grabbed my hand and put it between her legs and I started rubbing and after about a minute she started shaking all over and she got very tight all of a sudden. Maybe you could fake this but I did not matter to me I felt great. There was no rush When we got out front to the taxi stand I herd her tell the taxi driver where she wanted to go and it wasn't back to the club so I believe these girls usually only have at most one customer a night. She then turned around and planted a big one on my lips in front of the taxi driver and then said that I was a really nice guy.

Sorry guys I wanted to get some pictures but she did not not want to do that either.

I know that this went well The problem is that when it doesn't it can really hurt because of the cost. When I get ripped of in the zona for $40. it does not bother me in the slightest as I know there is another just down the street and it just doesn't matter.

If I do this again I will probably stay back at the Villa Manport and take my car as they have protected parking at Jokers. As for the girls there were only a couple I would think were worth the $300. and that is if things went well. For my money I have always gone to the Pink Lady there are some nice looking ones there and it doesn't cost nearly as much. I might not go back but variety is the spice of life and it was an experience I will not soon forget.

As far as Member #2479, if you can afford it there are nice times to be had. I think that some of the guys are threatened by mongers spending to much. Good thing there are different clubs for different people. Variety is the spice of life.

On another note guys I just spent a number of days in Puerto Penasco and I will be posting on their respective forum later once I have accumulated all the data. This place is an order of magnitude better then Jokers. The women are cheaper, younger, and much better looking then Jokers or anywhere else in Juarez... maybe not the cheaper part, and the hotel/resort that I stayed at was beautiful for $80./night instead of $100 for a Holiday Inn in Juarez. The most expensive girls are about $160., but the quality. Here is a sampling, she did not mind having her picture taken. You can see the front side later on the other forum.

Svtlord
09-15-05, 20:02
Anyone know if the MP Consuelo is still open? Im going through all these posts and it reminded me of a very petite, slender, blond girl that worked there. She went by the name of Samantha but she said her real name was Abigail. She had very small firm breasts, very trim body, light tan, and is about 5' to 5' 2"

I met her while cruising the MPs for some good action. Some guy got there right before me and picked her, there was no other doable girl so I left. As I was getting into my car she caught up to me and asked me to return in about an hour. I told her I would, and since her body was stunning, I had to comply.

When I got there she was expecting me, so she wasn't even in the front so she wouldn't get busy again. She quickly undressed herself and then me. She gave me the greatest deep throat BBBJ I have ever had, I didn't even have to ask for it. After a few minutes she stopped and went straight for the massage table where she lied down. She wanted me right then and there. I asked her about the condom and she told me she did not want me to use one. She swore to me that she had only been with one guy without a condom in her life. In the heat of the moment bad judgment got the best of me and we went at it BB. (Do as I say, not as I do. Always use a rubber) We went at it several times in almost every position, we only stopped because someone knocked on the door and said time is up. Even then we still took our time to finish up that round. She told me to wait for her a while, she steped out of the room and quickly returned. We then took a shower together, where she gave me some more deep throat action. Again, she stopped after a few minutes and proceeded to climb me and we went at it again, very vigorously. So much that we accidentaly opened the door to the adjacent room where another girl was servicing a client. We closed the door and kept going at it.

When we were getting dressed she told me she had never done this before and she wanted me to believe her. She told me that I looked exactly like someone very dear and special to her, from back home. She told me that she would love it if I visited her again. Considering that I had just spent the best $30 ever, I went back in 3 days.

The next time I showed up I was ready for a marathonic session, brought extra cash for extra time, session, tip, etc. When I got there, she quickly got up and took me outside. Told me to wait for her and she went back into the MP. When she came back out she asked me to take her out. We went to have dinner, for some ice scream, and then a movie. She told me all about herself. She was the mother of two, which I had already figured out because of the small scar on her stomach. She had come to Juarez from Veracruz, running away from a husband that beat her up. She said she was not earning enough money as maquiladora operator so she started doing work as an "edecan", basically a girl that gets paid by some company to stand there and look pretty for company events. One of the girls she worked with introduced her to the MPs and she said the money was too good to pass up. She told me how she got pregnant at 14 and married the guy she had run away from. She was living with her mom who helped her with the kids. As we were leaving the movie theater we were just talking in my car, then she started giving me a hand job and in return I started fingering her. She then told me to drive to some hotel. On the way to the hotel she gave me more deep throat.

When we got to the hotel we got down and asked for a room. She refused to let me pay and she paid for the room. We went at it all night. She was really into it, the room had a large mirror and she keept watching our reflection while we did it. The one thing she didn't enjoy was when I started eating her, maybe it was me or she just isn't into that but everything else was way beyond the GFE. In the morning she asked me to take her to her place. I droped her off somewhere in south-central Juarez. She did not allow me to walk her to the house, nor did she tell me which one was her house. She made me drop her off at the entrance to a dead end street. She would not start walking to her house until I left, to convince me to leave she came back into my car and gave me more deap throat. She said she wanted to see me again next week.

Sure enough next weekend I was back at Consuleo to pick her up. We went out to dinner and then she wanted to go dancing. We went back to the club next to Consuelo, but she was not allowed in because she did not have her ID with her. She told me she was 19, but she looked really young. Since we couldnt go dancing at a club, we went to go get a hotel room and did some dancing there. Again we fucked our brains out. She told me how she wished that I had been her first, instead of her husband. She said she wanted me to be the first at something and she asked me to do her in the ass. I hapily complied. The following morning she straight up asked me to be her boyfriend. Without a doubt I said yes, hesistant since I had never been involved with a woman with kids, let a alone a woman that is married (separated, but still married) She said none of her clients mean anything to her, except money, and she never does any of them like she does me. She told she would stop working at the MPs if she managed to save some money for a house and if I could help her out a bit. My little head was doing the thinking for me so I agreed to everything she said and we got back to fucking. Later that morning she asked me to take her back to Consuelo. I droped her off and said I would come see her again soon.

She called me the next day and she had totaly changed her tune, she said she saw no future for us and that it would be best if we stopped seeing each other. She told me that she had been speaking with her sister about us and that she had come to the conclusion that I would have no respect for her since I met her at an MP and that I treated her nicely just because I wanted to fuck her. She also said it would not be good for her kids for me to be in her life. It seems the reason she was all over me was because I looked just like her husband, minus the beatings.

I went to Consuelo the next day, but I was told she was not there. She was not answering my phone calls. For the next month or so I kept looking for her but she was never there. I took the hint.

Anyway I realy wish her well, and hope she is no longer in the MPs, so that is why I ask if anyone has seen her.

Member #2479
09-16-05, 02:13
Great story of woe Svtlord, reminds me of myself and Vico from Luxxor, the lil b itch refused to se me again even after I promised to take her of work and had paid the $700 dlls for the first week.

Moral of the story a w hore is a w hore and should be treated like that she is.

Gntlman Mongr
09-16-05, 03:58
Great story Svtlord, I have gotten to the same point before but usually it turns out with them bringing up the “M” word. A lot of these women would not make good marriage material. I have had to tell them that they can not even hold a regular job in Mexico and then a lot of them are into drugs and need this to support their lifestyle. If I marry them they would be a fish out of water in the US and they sometimes know this. This is not to say that there have not been with ones that have very good values. One that I know at the Pink Lady comes to mind. I am not very attracted to her and I certainly do not need to go there. There was one at the Panama Club once that I fell for and she just disappeared. I still miss her. Relationships are just as difficult south of the border. There are also the difficulties with the cultural differences. Sounds like she may have been one with good values but could not live with the fact that you would know how she once made her money. Good Luck, Keep on keeping on, and I am still looking for the meaning of life also.

Gntlman Mongr

As a note to the comments made by Member #2479; These women are human beings also and are trying to find there way through life. Otherwise she would not have fallen for Svtlord. It is a shame she could not find a way through her insecurities in life. Maybe she should stop listening to her sister.

Cienega32
09-16-05, 05:11
boy you guys have been busy. i went down to puerto penasco last week and while i was away there has been a lot of activity on this board.

{{{snip}}}

as far as member #2479, if you can afford it there are nice times to be had. i think that some of the guys are threatened by mongers spending to much. good thing there are different clubs for different people. variety is the spice of life.

on another note guys i just spent a number of days in puerto penasco and i will be posting on their respective forum later once i have accumulated all the data. this place is an order of magnitude better then jokers. the women are cheaper, younger, and much better looking then jokers or anywhere else in juarez... maybe not the cheaper part, and the hotel/resort that i stayed at was beautiful for $80./night instead of $100 for a holiday inn in juarez. the most expensive girls are about $160., but the quality. here is a sampling, she did not mind having her picture taken. you can see the front side later on the other forum.
speaking for myself, i don't feel overly threatened by mongers spending too much. truth be know, i don't think i would have a problem keeping up.

i still get p!ssed when i see 3 bucks a pound for grapes from time to time but have no problem dumping 5 or 6 yards in the slot machine on the way out of the grocery store.

what does worry me is the over-inflated rates that could be possible in the long run. i've seen it in la and more so, here in vegas.

i've heard some outrageous numbers only because some other skank bragged about some guy throwing his money around because he did good. didn't matter that he probably paid 1/2 a dime for some broad that probably would've blown him for 50 bucks. raises the level of the playing field for no reason. inflation, at a natural rate, is to be expected. rapid spikes for no reason are not.

somehow i think that would be the case in mexico where one of us gringos goes down with a pocket full of gold and becomes the local town hero.

i'm looking forward to your rocky point post. i've always wanted to spend a few days down there but am still too unsure of things. i'll wait for your post to ask any questions, if you don't mind.

great report, btw. almost felt like a fly on the wall.

Cienega32
09-16-05, 05:34
It's a sad tale and I'm sorry to hear it didn't pan out BUT -

For all anyone knows her sister's talk with her could've covered things like:

"You use these guys for money and wonder why they beat the sh!t out of you. Stop using these men when they like you, making them think they're special and offering to help with money. Don't do it."



I don't know about #2479's philosophy but I'll tell you this - women are women and they all fall into a pattern mold of habit with men. Some seek normalcy, some seek to be abused, and some seek to be the abuser. Some abuse in order to be abused. They're a very strange creature when it comes to emotional interactions with the opposite sex. Men are a bit easier to understand. The three rule philosophy of men:

Feed me
Fu*k me
Shut the fu*k up



Cienega32 - The cynical one.

Coyote79
09-16-05, 11:03
I don't know about #2479's philosophy but I'll tell you this - women are women and they all fall into a pattern mold of habit with men. Some seek normalcy, some seek to be abused, and some seek to be the abuser. Some abuse in order to be abused. They're a very strange creature when it comes to emotional interactions with the opposite sex.

What always depresses me is how so many ladies give their love to aggressive men.
They don't see a thug or an arrogant jerk--they see an "exciting bad boy" who can protect them.

I think these women are skanks because people like people like themselves.

I treat women as individuals--some deserve respect, and some don't.

Svtlord
09-16-05, 14:51
I didn't fall for this girl at all. I just wanted to keep fucking her. Sex with her was mind blowing! She was very comfortable with her body, she knew what she liked, and by pure dumb luck she was very into me. When we did it dogy style, right at the point when I was completly in her, she still pushed and banged back against me. When she was playing cowgirl she could not keep her eyes off her pussy. She said she loved to see it penetrated by me. When she gave me deep throat AND managed to control herself and not stop because she wanted me to fuck her, she slurped and savored every little drop. She was openminded and experimental in bed. Before she stoped seeing me she said she wanted to get drunk, invite a girlfirend of hers and watch me fuck her friend. I would have paid $1000 for weekeds with her without thinking about it twice. The only money she ever took from me was the first $30 when I met her at the MP. When we went out she made it very clear that she was not whoring herself to me and she refused to allow me to pay for anything. She would make a very big deal out of it, she would ask cashiers/waiters to take her money instead of mine and she always slipped the money I used back into my pockets. I never treated her like a *****, but I never intented for a serious relationship. She would have made for a very good steady girl on the side though.

Cienega32
09-16-05, 21:39
What always depresses me is how so many ladies give their love to aggressive men.
They don't see a thug or an arrogant jerk--they see an "exciting bad boy" who can protect them.

I think these women are skanks because people like people like themselves.

I treat women as individuals--some deserve respect, and some don't.

"The exciting bad boy" who can protect them from what they unkowningly ended up with seems to be the case more times than many.

And if it's not that - then they want to mommy some loser into reality.

Both seem to be a losing cause for many women.

Somewhere between the two can't be that hard to find.

Mugroso
09-18-05, 15:26
i still get p!ssed when i see 3 bucks a pound for grapes from time to time but have no problem dumping 5 or 6 yards in the slot machine on the way out of the grocery store.

$1.47 for a pound at wal-mart yesterday. i bought some just for you but since there is no telling when you will be in town i will eat them myself in your honor.

the filthy (feed me like a roman) one

Adam Z
09-19-05, 17:17
2 nights mongering and found some gems.

Started at Placeres, which is a pretty decent place. Sat with a girl there named "Paris" who is 19 years old and maybe the hottest woman that I have ever seen in Juarez, a true, rare beauty. Just an absolute model. Wanted $350 to leave, which I didn't want to pay. Had another round and filed the info for future entertainment purposes. Also noticed one rail-thin, hot blonde and two other girls there that I would call very beautiful. Not too many fat chicks.

Stopped at Jokers, this place is always hot. Susana is OUCH fine, and there were 2 other girls there who are practically 10's. Still neither one is as fine as Paris from Placeres. Had 3 beers and a woodrow, so I headed to the centro.

Working my way back downtown, my friend wanted to check out the Autotel (La Fuente I think), but it was scary. Whales and dudes. Never waste your time at this spot. NEVER!!!

A quick drink at Picasso's where the girls are M-bar fine, but it's the same routine, no salida. Still, the eye candy there is very enticing.

Next, went to Pink Lady. The place was packed. Had heard from another friend that there is a terrific new girl there named Coral who is 19 and speaks english. Couldn't verify for myself, because the place was so busy that I couldn't find her, but I trust my friend and will be back on Monday or Tuesday to check her out.

Next, we stopped at Sans Souci and I was pretty impressed for being the same old dump, there were a few decent girls. Two petite things that were totally do-able, one girl with a tight body that dances well. My friend took a girl named Sara to the cuarto and says that she does a terrific deep-throat. Will have to give that a whirl. But there is a girl there who is pretty nice looking although she was playing pool with some other guys and I barely had a chance to meet her. Her name is Natalia and her body is good, her face is pretty and she seemed ok. Ran out of time or I would have taken her to the room. She asked for 40.

Next night, went back to the centro. There are 3 girls at Rancho Grande that are pretty nice looking. One is prissy and a big tease, but the other 2 are almost as hot. One girl in particular dances great, has a tight little body and will leave with you if the price is right. 60 if she likes you, 80 if she doesn't.

Next block at Queens, I was surprised to see that Yessenia had returned. That girl has an amazing rack and is very fun to talk to if you speak Spanish. Also, another hottie was there named Alex. I hadn't see her there before, but then it's been a long time since I was at Queens. Chino fell asleep while serving us...same old Chino.

One last thought, at Masajes Europeos there is a girl named Daniela who used to be at Marilyns. I forget what name she used at Marilyns (I think it was Mariana) but some guys who have been on this board longer than 2 years will remember her. She's tall, has a nice face, killer long legs and a thin body (the only thing she needs is some braces). She's always accomodating, gives great head and lets you take your time. Don't expect kissing or a GFE and you will get your money's worth from her. Nice girl, great body.

OK, as usual, your mileage may vary.

Zuzax
09-20-05, 01:43
Funny thing! One of our fellow mongers sends me a Private Message asking if I've seen Letty #2 at the Casa lately. I hadn't seen her in about 2 years. I show up Thursday night and there she was.

As Adam Duritz said, the Casa had a nice selection of chicas. That's very rare for this place. I can usually find at least one good chica, but Thursday and Friday night I saw about 5 that pleased me. (High-Five for the Casa chicas!!) I'll definitely be back in October.

I also stopped by the Panama on Friday night and the place was DEAD. I think there was 4 chicas working and 3 customers in the bar. They remodeled the place, but it's not going to help until the quality of girls improve.

One bad thing about Friday night was the drive back to the motel in El Paso. There were about 5 police cars just pulling over anybody for no reason just as you leave the parking lots on the El Paso side. I guess it was my lucky night, because four of the cops were busy and the last one pulled over the car in front of me. The reason the cop pulled that car over was because he was afraid to pass him.

Zuzax out