2005 Nuevo Laredo Reports [Archive] - InternationalSexGuide

Donorita

01-01-05, 15:21

i have driven across the border close to twenty times without any problems. i do not want to waste a room girl fuck ($20) on taxi fare. the first time i drove i was scared shitless but became a little more comfortable each time. my ability to speek spanish is extremely limited and i have a fairly new car (2004). when driving don't drive drunk and obay all traffic laws (you will be the only one who does) that way le has less reason to stop you. i figure i saved enough in taxi fares to pay for a shake down. a few weeks ago i stayed at the star bar. it was $20 for twelve hours. the room was very basic but clean (even the sheets) it had hot water, towels and soap. there was no heat but i anticipated this and brought a space heater with me. i don't like not having a key but the rooms are fairly secure, just don't bring anything too valuble. i wanted to start out with the very cute door girl i found on my last trip but she was not around, it was too early for the clubs so i took a walk down the third street. i came across a nice looking girl (about a 7.5) and decided to give her a try in my room. she wanted a rock (crack *****) so i bought two for her and we went to the room. after she got high we went at it for about two hours. i must say, the rock paid off big time. she was much better that a gfe, (girl friends seldom will stick their tounges up your ass hole). i must admit she convinced me to try a hit, which lead to several more. she never even asked me for money although i did give her fifty to stay the night. if you have not tried it don't i can see why people get addicted, it is a feeling that is almost as good as an orgasm but it leaves you wanting more and more. it leaves you very very horny but with a limp dick (even with the blue vitamin). i will probably try it again (only with a good looking cw) but i will only allow myself to do this no more that once a month so i don't get addicted too. if you decide to try an experiance with a crack hoe, do it early in the evening, later on they become very despirate for their rock and aren't worth shit. i did find it interesting that numerous types of drugs are for sale on the side walk. the "vendor" has them on display on the side walk and there is no attempt to hide them when the cops go by. i found out later that the cops are paid off so they will not hastle the buyer or seller. i still suggest having the girl carry the rocks, i think the cops would love to find some illegal mind altering substances on gringos so they could afford that new car. i will be heading back in about two weeks with my space heater and hope to have another great time.

BorderJumper

01-02-05, 04:46

Donorita;

Real smart guy. Gonna try it once a month? It don't work that way guy. Trust me. I ent through the shit with my ex wife's (US) daughters. You may think you'll only do it once in awhile but it'll grab you by the balls and won't let go.

You're right about driving in NL though. Really no hassle at all if you can stand the fucking horns going off at you a nanosecond after the lite turns green.

I've got an 01 SUV and a Firebird COnvertible in NL and have in the past had Jeeps and a Mercedes Ben down here and never had the least bit of a problem, even in BT!

Don't think the cornucopia of drugs you say are on display openly (which I've not seen) are a sign of a ringos immunity from arrest. They'll sell them to you, turn around and clue the policia on to the fact you bought the drugs, you will be arrested and the drugs will be returned to the dealer by the policia and your ass is in the carcel. Buddy, you don't want to experience a Mexican prison! Trust me!

Blourghus

01-02-05, 08:40

BorderJumper,

There is a crack dealer who operates not just openly - but flagrantly - in front of a certain club on Street Three, and tons of people beat a path to him all day long, day and night, every day. There is no secrecy to this situation - even people brand new to Boys Town tend to learn about it instantly, often the exact location before they step foot in the compound, and I have seen no change to this situation in the 6 months I have been aware of it. There is no question whatsoever that Boys Town police are covering for it and benefitting from it; the only question is at what level of the Mexican police force is this not a secret (Municipal? State? Federal? Military? They all do periodic sweeps of Boys Town). I find this situation as offensive as hell, and I seriously wish it would end, as there are so many crackheads in Boys Town whose lives I have literally seen whither away. Though deep down inside I believe the "solution" would be to just bulldoze the whole thing together.

That said, I agree it is absolutely moronic to actually take it. However, I (sadly) believe there is no way that purchasing a rock from this dealer would ever result in any penalty or even shakedown from the Boys Town police, the only real risk would be taking it outside the zone and then getting busted by a different police force who is not backing this particular dealer.

BorderJumper

01-05-05, 13:23

Thanks Blourghus. I stand corrected. I guess the reason I've never noticed is I don't go looking for those things and the fact I haven't been out there in some months.

They ought to be run out of there and the cops protecting them also. The lives it ruins just ain't worth it.

Austx200

01-07-05, 09:16

Haven't seen any reports for the new year. Thinking about heading down this weekend.

Make It Up

01-07-05, 18:54

Hey guys,

I plan on heading down tonight to NL. Anyone wanna meet up to help out a newbie for his first time in boystown?? Anyone know how readily available greek sessions are in NL? I have been lurking for a while and become and avid reader, but it seems this section is a bit dead. We need to rejuvenate it with some new reports!!

Thanks to all the contributors in this forum for the help thusfar!!

johnny

Blourghus

01-07-05, 19:00

Well, Christmas & New Years is slow so few people have gone down the last few weeks.

The clubs are now opened, and girls back, but this weekend may be a really bad time to go because the traffic coming back will be awful because this is the weekend all of the paisanos are heading back to the US. The same weekend last year had a 12 hour wait on the bridge. I'll probably wait until next weekend.

Mic Jagger

01-07-05, 23:35

There will be a Mic Jagger siteing in boystown this saturday, any brothern that want to hookup, drop me a pm. Austx200 check your messages. Later. Mic.

BorderJumper

01-08-05, 22:26

Good to see you back Mic!

Mic Jagger

01-11-05, 01:00

Thanks BorderJumper, good to see you're still around. Hope to meet up you next month if you're going to be in town. Later. Mic.

Sigue

01-15-05, 03:46

Well, BT is still there—saw it myself last night after a break of four months... Papagayo had its standard Thursday pattern—gringo population peaks before 11 pm, then thins as they contemplate working on Friday morning; while the girls are still trickling in from Monterrey well after 11 pm as they contemplate working a long weekend boca arriba. So—find your best buys at about 1 am.

Me I did a cute one there,brand new to me—Keli/Kelly/whatever—from Mazatlán; I overpaid (700 pesos for her, 150 pesos for the house, 20 pesos for the toallera) but no regrets, she was fun. Anybody know her? She’s 22, trim, lightish hair, upbeat personality.

Also spent quality time with Cindi/Cinthia, from Edomex, a door girl who has been around 4 years and a really FINE human being—some of you know her. Looking a bit thin but she seemed in good spirits.

Btw right now you’re nuts not to buy pesos because everyone (taxistas, establishments, girls) is pricing their wares ten-pesos-on-the-dollar: like 100 pesos settles a $10 cab charge. So even with the rate sagging slightly this week, you do well—the place by the Shell station at the end of I-35 gave me 11.1 pesos per dollar, which was a bit better than the rates I saw on the other side. So for $200 you get 2220 pesos, and basically it’s like you have an extra $22 to spend. Think of it as subsidizing the damned taxi fare both ways, plus two tacos from Luis.

Btw, I suppose you might do even better if you use an ATM on the other side, but honestly, is it WORTH it to risk a shake-down (or worse) having a piece of plastic in your pocket? For my money, best advice is: “Don’t leave home with PLASTIC!”

Blourghus

01-28-05, 00:48

I agree it's really dumb to pay in Dollars. I never bring dollars across the border, in Nuevo Laredo, it is ALWAYS better to pay in Pesos, in other places in Mexico this isn't always true (in clubs in Nogales, for example, the official prices are in dollars, their venta is $12.00. Ouch!)

Girls ALWAYS let me Pay 10:1, even when the compra was up above $11.50, in clubs the drinks and room fees are ALWAYS 10:1, the only problem I've ever had was a taxista who got pissed off when I gave him MX$100 for US$10 taxi ride, wanted MX$20 extra.

ATM gives you less than Casa de Cambios - I withdrew a couple weeks ago and they gave me something like $10.97 exchange rate, while the casas were giving $11.20 or so. Best to withdraw cash in the US and change it at the border.

Random Guy II

01-31-05, 03:54

Is this thing on?

I'm heading to NL either this weekend or next. PM me if you'll be there and want to meet up. This will be my first time in BT, but I've mongered elsewhere, and I'm looking forward to seeing how the ladies of BT measure up.

Random Guy II

02-10-05, 08:49

I'll try again, since the board has been down so often recently that it's possible that no one has even read my post.

I will be going to BoysTown on Thursday and Friday evenings. If anyone should like to meet up, either PM me, or (since I the board may be down and I may not be able to get to PM) email me at bellafalsa@lycos.com.

If all goes well and the money doesn't run out, I may go on Saturday night as well. :D

Doubt98

02-15-05, 22:03

The US issued a warning for border towns. Is it something a monger should be worrying about? That can you do other than the not get sloppy drunk, no dark ally approach?

Sigue

02-21-05, 05:02

Guys, you be the judge. This is from today's Laredo Morning Times:

Officials talk big; residents still afraid

By MIGUEL TIMOSHENKOV and ADRIANA ARCE
LAREDO MORNING TIMES

NUEVO LAREDO The continuing wave of kidnappings and killings in this border city appears to be legitimizing the fears of Nuevo Laredo and Laredo residents, who see little relief on the horizon.

While few specific figures are available, officials on both sides say the publicty is taking its toll, with reduced hotel occupancy rates and empty tourist shops south of the border. The number of international bridge crossings for commercial vehicles is up, but pedestrian traffic is down.

The one bright spot has been the annual three-week Washingtons Birthday Celeb-ration, which brought its usual burst of economic activity and nearly full Laredo hotels and restaurants this weekend.

But anecdotal information shows the normal parallel increase in Nuevo Laredo tourism hasnt happened at the same rate as it has in past years.

Some Nuevo Laredo officials blame U.S. news reports for the reduced number of tourists, saying they are "exaggerations" and that the violent crimes involve only drug dealers locked in turf battles.

"Unfortunate as it is, narcotic trafficking is normal for border cities, because the U.S. is its biggest market," said Ramberto Salinas, Nuevo Laredo city spokesman. "So the problem is not exclusive to our city."

Still afraid
Thats a plausible explanation, but it does little to ease local residents fears.

Raúl Salinas, a former FBI agent turned international security consultant (not related to the Nuevo Laredo spokesman), said people are understandably concerned about the so-called "levantones," also known as "express kidnappings," particularly since police seem powerless to stop them.

"Neither the U.S. nor the Mexican authorities have done what is necessary to stop the crime wave," he said.

He believes the number of robberies and other crimes will continue to increase because of a minimal police presence in Nuevo Laredo neighborhoods.

Most of the violent deaths in recent months have involved drug gangs; Televisa reporter Jorge Cardonas recently interviewed a masked cartel member on the air who gave insight into the gangs operations.

"They have lookouts who are constantly checking the entrances and exits into and out of Nuevo Laredo," the man said, adding that the drug gangs have their own, private radio frequency and have contacts with city police officers, who provide inside information.

And drug lords have effective means of dispatching those who cross them.

"They feed their captives to lions at hidden ranches," the informant said.

Declining to discuss any specific cases, FBI spokesman Art Fuentes confirmed that U.S. agents have heard similar reports about the drug gangs operations.

After his report aired, Cardonas vehicle was the target of extensive gunfire while it was parked outside his home.

Fight continues
Nuevo Laredo Mayor Daniel Peña Treviño says he understands his constituents fears and why they have lost faith in efforts to bring back the peace, but he said the battle can be won.

One recent kidnapping victim, who has since moved to San Antonio, said his family paid a hefty ransom for his release. The kidnappers made off with cars and jewelry, he said..

"I will never return to Nuevo Laredo," said the businessman, asking that his name not be revealed for fear of reprisals against family members still living in the border city.

Meanwhile, top state and federal officials have sought to stem the tide, with public denunciations against crime lords.

President Vicente Fox last week optimistically declared that the "mother of all battles" against international crime is backing crime gangs into a corner and he told Televisa reporters that Nuevo Laredo has seen a drop of 27 percent in the crime rate.

But no specific figures were released to support that number, and local law enforcement and business officials disagree with Foxs assessment.

But so does crime
In fact, some pointed to the two men including a veteran state police officer who were killed shortly after the president made his comments, saying the execution-style slayings were a direct response to Fox. Both had been tortured and shot once in the head before their bodies were thrown along the highway between Nuevo Laredo and Monterrey.

"How can the president say the city crime rate is down?" asked Nuevo Laredo Councilman Carlos Cantú Rosas-Villarreal. "We see how criminals move about the streets of the city at all hours. Its incredible how theyre able to act with such impunity.

Councilman Francisco Chavira agreed.

"The most suspicious thing is that the city, state and federal police, as well as other public safety entities, dont seem to see what the people see (or) pretend not to notice," he said.

Recent city records are unavailable; the only figures released publicly compare 2002 to 2003, showing that crime was down. Monthly crime numbers posted on a Tamaulipas state police Web site end at October 2004, when the official count stood at 55 homicides.

But November and December were particularly bloody; unofficial counts put the violent death toll at near 80 at the end of 2004, up from the 65 officially reported in 2003. Already this year, there have been nearly a dozen homicides.

No cavalry yet
Tamaulipas Gov. Eugenio Hernández Flores, who has visited Nuevo Laredo several times, said he continues to talk with Fox about the problem and that state and federal authorities are working together to fight organized crime. He, too, claims that crime has decreased with the increased state and federal law enforcement presence.

Again, no specific figures were released, and every day brings new reports of robberies, kidnappings and execution-style killings.

A special task force of federal agents have been sent to the border twice, but as soon as they leave, crime kicks up again.

Hernández Flores couldnt commit to having federal authorities here on a regular basis.

"Im in discussions with (Mexico) Attorney General Macedo de la Concha," he said. "We expect to work together in the fight against crime."

Official statements are equally confident.

José Guadalupe Valdéz, head of the citys public safety efforts, said his officers are working with state officers.

"We have made good arrests we have control of the streets," he said. "The community should have faith in us."

But he had little comment about the increased number of killings, kidnappings and robberies, saying that falls under other jurisdictions. His officers would make arrests in those cases, of course, if they run across those who committed the crimes, he added.

Seeking private help
Meanwhile, Nuevo Laredo businessmen and women are doing what they can to fight crime on their own.

The local all-female Club Rotario Villa Laredo recently asked Salinas, the security consultant, to talk to its members about ways to prevent kidnappings. In addition to giving them tips on how to throw off potential kidnappers, he also cautioned the business owners against divulging personal information.

Some Nuevo Laredo officials, such as city spokesman Salinas, take great pains to point out that tourists are safe in their city.

"The streets are filled with many visitors who go back across the border unharmed," he said, adding that Nuevo Laredo continues to be a great place for shoppers and those looking for a legal good time.

"If you are coming to look for drugs, or anything else that is illegal, then, naturally, you will have a problem," he said.

Nevertheless, with more than 20 U.S. citizens reported missing in Nuevo Laredo in less than a year about half of those have returned home safely the perception that the city is unsafe persists.

Saturday, family members of some of those still missing protested at the Juarez-Lincoln International Bridge during the annual Washingtons Birthday Celebration Association Abrazo Ceremony, which celebrates international ties.

The family members say not enough is being done to bring their loves ones home.

Thumperr

02-26-05, 07:05

Went down to BT last Sunday night, the 20th. This was during the Washington Birthday celebrations.

At about 11:45 a caravan of 11 Anti-Drug pickups rolled into Boys Town with lights flashing and sirens howling. Six of the pick-ups pulled right and blocked the side street from the gate to BT right up to the entrance of Papa's. Two of the pickups had heavy machine gun mounts on the back, manned. THe police all had M4s, with, interestingly enough the older 19 bullet clips.

The other five rolled down the street and took up position on the far corner down by the Western Bar. Then an additional 4 or 5 pick-ups rolled in and began to herd all vehicles around the outer rim of BT and into a line for inspection. Now keep in mind this is lights flashing, intermittant sirens and all these cars filled with people swallowing whatever they could.

Tremenous show of foece, incredibly poor execution. No snipers on the buildings, no soldiers watching the backs of the vans, car checks with the soldiers holding their weapons one-handed like uzis.

12:25 they were gone, no arrests, just honking their horns on the way out. What a circus.

By the way, the crowd was pathetic for the Sunday night before Presidents Day Monday. You would havethought with no workthe place wouldbe jammed. Papas had maybe 20 girls at midnight for the 15 customers present.

Chiang Guy

03-02-05, 01:42

I headed down to BT late in January, about the 22nd. I had two girls while I was there. The first was a door girl named Isabella in the green building on Second St. She was 22 and from Puebla. For $20 she agreed to a CBJ and fuck. It was OK, she gave a good BJ, but then just laid there with her eyes rolled up while I fucked her.

The second was a girl calling herself Katu from Danish. I always said I would not pay Danish prices, but I was sitting there resting and having a beer when she and her friend came up. They bounced up and down on my lap, played with my dick, kissed me a bunch of times. Before I knew what happened, I had bought them two lady drinks each, and was negociating with Katu for a fuck. It just shows how even the best of us can be overcome by lust. Katu is 28, although she looka younger, from Monterrey, and has one kid, a boy. We agreed on $80 for her and $10 for the room. Upstairs she gave me a great BJ then we started fucking. We started off doggie style, then ended up cowgirl. I can't complain about the time we were given or her enthusiasm. It wasn't GFE, but she did bang the hell out of me. Unfortunately, during the encounter my condom became dislodged, something that wasn't evident until we finished. When we saw it wasn't on my dick, she ended up having to dig deep to pull it out.

Fast forward to last week. When my dick started itching a little, I didn't pay any attention. When I started having a white discharge I was most bummed out. I have never had a STD before, so it was quite upsetting. I went down to the local health dept this week and got checked out. Turns out I have chlamydia. They treated it with antibiotics and I should be fine in a week. But it still isn't any fun and should remind us all to be careful. If you run across this girl, about 5' 4", 120, medium breasts and nice hips, you might want to give her a pass. I don't know how well the screening or treatment at BT, but she may still be an asymptomatic carrier.

Blourghus

03-02-05, 18:29

Sorry to hear about your experience, Austin Guy. I have mongered all over the world, and Danash is one of my very favorite bars in the world, on the quality of the girls both in looks and in service.

However, Danash does seem to have a problem with STD's. Many of the girls there do not have health cards, and the owner does not check for them. The local health officials do conduct card checks but only on certain days (mainly Saturdays). Danash is the deadest bar on Saturdays, supposedly due to this reason - the girls without health cards cannot work. Be extremely careful of any Danash girl who does not work on Saturday, and always use a condom at Danash.

Neobes

03-03-05, 04:33

Dude,

That totally sucks about catching the chlamydia at Danash. I have always worried about the condom falling off, especially because I almost exclusively use door girls and I bet they get checked less than the rest.

You know from time-to-time you get one of the girls that pulls off the underpants, you start gettin' your grove-thang on, and that nasty rotten cooch odor hits you telling you that all is not right. Call me a cheap bastard, but that's never stopped me from finishing up my business. Jsut breathe through the mouth and you'll be fine! ;)

Seriously though, in a few months just to be on the safe side, you should go back to the health clinic and get an HIV test. You know that shit can take months to show up depending on which kind of test you're using.

Mont Aber

03-10-05, 05:38

Hello everyone,

Montaber here, this is my first post on these forums. I've been waiting at least 4 months to be upgraded to a regular member but as I understand it there have been serious technical difficulties and DoS attacks that have hampered Jackson's ability to respond to my request. Nevertheless I am very happy to finally be posting here. Please note that my future posts will contain many more details but after 4-5 months my memory fails me.

A quick About-Me intro:

I'm in my early 30's
I lived in Laredo, TX for about 8 years
I am fluent in spanish
My job has me travelling all over the USA
I love to monger
I'm happy to have finally found a place that I can share my experiences

Back in November during a business trip I decided to take a trip to one of my favorite stomping grounds, BT. During my workday I kind of dropped the hint to one of the Laredo locals and was informed of Danash (it did not exist when I used to live in Laredo). Having heard that all the Danash women were between the ages of 18-26 from this source I naturally decided to check it out that evening. I was pleasantly surprised to note that the majority of the chicks there are pretty damn hot. I hooked up with a short sexy girl, don't remember the name, of about 23 years of age. Her drink was somewhere in the area of ten bucks which I found surprising but I was too busy looking down her shirt to be much bothered by it. After a "private dance" in the back (so that I could get a sense of what I was getting) we negotiated a price of about $85.00 USD. If I remember correctly I had to pay $5.00 USD for the room or a towel or something. She did a very nice CBJ and then a full service which had me panting. She finished me off with a nice HJ.

Later on I went to Papa Guayos to check out the scene and sure enough the quality of the girls there has dropped dramatically.

All in all I spent about $130.00 USD.

If anyone is interested in hooking up for a weekend jaunt into NL's BT please feel free to PM me and I can check my schedule. I'm always looking to visit BT but honestly just hate going alone.

Sleez Ho

03-10-05, 05:40

Austin: "Unfortunately, during the encounter my condom became dislodged, something that wasn't evident until we finished."

I use these condoms, they NEVER slip off. Nice and snug and YES they stretch. Personally I like to remain inside for a few moments after climax, and with these little buddies, I don't have to hurry out while clamping the base... hope this makes sense. Check the pic.

I buy them online in bulk, they're pretty cheap.

Another hint is don't have the girl give you a handjob with lube, then put the condom on, this too could induce slippage.

Coach 245

03-13-05, 11:10

I have traveled to NL to have FUN in BT numerous times, but I have also found that the past 2 trips there seems to be less and less visitors. Some of the Clubs seem to be closed now. One of my past favorite Clubs....Pimp Daddys, run by Lupe has been closed the past few times I have been there. The only safe Clubs now seems to be Papa's and Danish. It was even uncomfortable to walk the side streets on my last 2 trips there.

It is very disappointing after the numerous GREAT times I have had with fellow mongers hitting the Clubs and the chicas! Tamikas was empty most nights except for the girls. They were so hungry due to a lack of business that you are IMMEDIATELY surrounded as you walk in. It is tough to weave your way thru to a favorite chica, with all the girls surrounding you, grabbing your crotch, asking to bum a smoke and to buy them a drink before you even set down.

Papa's is almost as bad. The only savuing grace there is that my fellow mongers and I have been there so much lately, that the regular girls take care of us along with the waiters.

The policia seem to be even more corrupt as they hassle the "gringos" and search for bribes to keep you out of jail. More and more militia seem to be around too. It is getting scary to go there now. IS THE FUN GONE?

Mont Aber

03-14-05, 05:06

I never seem to have that problem, however the busiest times of the year seem to be around May 5th (Cinco de Mayo) and whenever the colleges in mexico go on breaks. Also around xmas is a good time to go.

One thing, speaking the language helps a lot with the local policia. Most of my non-spanish speaking friends would usually ask me to go with them in the past for this very reason. I've never really had a problem there.

Find out when the colleges let out for break and go at that time, you'll see what I mean.

Ojos Grandes

03-15-05, 00:25

Army Vato

03-15-05, 06:35

I have never been to Boys Town ever. I just want to know if its safe to go alone. I will be going down there in about 2 weeks to take my dad to the bus station. How far is it from the bus station and how do I get there? Are girls available in the day time to?Can one pic up a decent chick and do her without dirnking any liquare. Whats a fair price and I wil be going on a Wednesday. Any advice will be greatly apreciated.

Blourghus

03-15-05, 07:22

I'm new to the forum but a long time visitor to BT. I looked back over the older threads but have seen no mention the Auto-Motel that is located just off the Monterrey highway on the road to the airport. It is one of those drive-in, no tell places designed for the more well to do locals who have something going on the side. However you can get a room for 700 MN for the night and the rooms are more modern and better fitted than the Camino Real or the Hilton. A large king-size bed, porn on the TV and the spacious, tiled bath rooms. I've been there several times and it has never failed to impress my companion.

Has anyone else been there? I would be interested in their comments. It's not practical though unless you have your own car and are doing an all nighter. I've stayed with girls at the Villa Real, Camino Real, Hilton and City Express and there is really no comparison unless every centavo is precious.
I've stayed at the other one (Motel Paradise) I agree it's BY FAR the best place to bring a girl back to in Nuevo Laredo, and MUCH nicer than the Hilton et al. But yeah, doesn't make sense to use except for all nighter. And it's dirt cheap also. There's actually 2 different ones. Motel Paradise is on KM 13 of the National Highway.

There is also Motel Frontier which is on the intersection of the National Highway and L. Donaldo Colosio (more or less) - I think that this place is owned by the same lady who owns Papagayo's. It's closer to Boys Town but I've never stayed at that one. I think this is the one you're talking about.

Unless there's three.

Boy54

03-16-05, 01:09

Formerly known as Hboy54. There is another autotel much closer to BT, on either Peru or Venezuela (the alternate routes to & from BT, when the underpass is flooded). Unfortunately I haven't checked this one out, perhaps someone is familiar with it.

The other two, Frontier and Paradise are quite nice and offer 12 hours for the price of 6 on weekdays. On the one occasion that I tried to get a Papa's girl to go out there she didn't want to because it was "demasiado lejo". One of them has so-called deluxe rooms with large jacuzzis, perfect for a "party".

By the way, Blourghus, I'll be driving to Mty 4/14 - 17 with a possible stop in BT on the way down. PM me si tengas interés. Too bad about our former club.

Coach 245

03-20-05, 07:38

Has anyone heard what is going on with Pimp Daddy's or the owner, Lupe? My mongering friends and I became good friends with him on our many trips to BT and his place has been closed on our last couple trips.

Please post any info you might have.

Thanks!

Army Vato

03-21-05, 05:28

I will be going down to Nuevo Laredo this Tues day to pic up someone. My question is do they sell viagra over the counter in Nuevo Laredo pharmacies? I know they sell it in Tijuana. I'm just wondering I don't want to go down their and ask for sum and they all look at me as if i'm stupid or something.

Daddy Rulz

03-21-05, 07:44

Had no problem, walked into a pharmacia just across the bridge and got one. This was 4 years ago or so though, it cost me like $11.00 US.

Neobes

03-21-05, 17:52

I don't know if this will ahve any bearing on getting Viagra in NL, but I read that when the federal police came in last week, they shut down 9 pharmacies that were operating either without licenses or in "inappropriate" fashion. I know that valium and xanax used to be easily available at many pharmacies, maybe that is all they were clamping down on? Anybody bought any Viagra in NL in the past week?

Blourghus

03-22-05, 01:07

You need a prescription only for controlled substances and there are periodic shakedowns of pharmacies which are selling controlled substances w/o requiring prescription. While the list of controlled substances differs from the US and I don't know exactly what is on it, C/V/L are definitely not on the list, and you can buy them OTC. Not realizing this, I actually once tried to get a 'legal' prescription for Cialis from one of those shadetree Mexican doctors on the border, and she asked me 'What's that? How do you spell it? What's the dosage?', so I am the only person who has an actual Mexican prescription for Cialis. You can also bring it back to the US w/o prescription, just declare it on the bridge so there's no surprise. I haven't bought it in the last week, but in the past month. Go to a good pharmacy, I prefer Soriana, the pharmacies right by Bridge #1 creep me out, and also are more expensive.

Ojos Grandes

03-23-05, 00:34

The Calderon pharmacy chain has the best prices for meds IMO. Viagra 100mg runs about 155 pesos after they apply the 20% standard discount. There is one on Cesar de Lara about between the Villa Real and Paseo Colon.

Blourghus

03-23-05, 06:29

Neobes

03-25-05, 06:17

This place has gone insane. Hope these guys enjoy la loma.

http://www.lmtonline.com/news/s3.htm

Nashboy

03-25-05, 20:26

These days, I wouldn't even try to buy without a script in Mexico, as they are cracking down (sporadically) and it ain't worth spending a night or two in a Mexican jail.

I would highly suggest you go to www.rx-mex.net and check out their generic Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. If you buy a shitload of it, it can cost as little as $1.99 per pill. In reasonable quanitities (say 30 or so) it runs about $3 per pill (100 mg). This place has a great rep and excellent customer service. Their generics are the real deal (I have personally been ripped off by 2 online sites selling fake generices) and are the EXACT same stuff as the brand name, however are made in countries that don't exactly cotton to U.S. drugmaker patent laws. I get the generic Cialis and it works just as well as the brand, which costs 4 or 5 times as much. I've referred dozens of people to this site from my Canadian prescription business (since Viagra, etc. actually averages a bit more in Canada) and my customers (most of whom are seniors) swear by it.

Two other bonuses; NO prescription is needed and they guarantee their prices, so if you find it cheaper on the web, let them know and they will match the price you find, plus take off another 5%. Hope this helps!

Ojos Grandes

03-27-05, 13:46

These days, I wouldn't even try to buy without a script in Mexico, as they are cracking down (sporadically) and it ain't worth spending a night or two in a Mexican jail.If this quote refers to controlled substances then I agree. There is no risk however in buying Viagra, Cialis or Levitra without a script in Nuevo Laredo. They sell it as Sorianos--the Mexican equivilent of WalMart.

BorderJumper

03-28-05, 14:33

These days, I wouldn't even try to buy without a script in Mexico, as they are cracking down (sporadically) and it ain't worth spending a night or two in a Mexican jail.

I would highly suggest you go to [url<http://www.rx-mex.com?kbid=4739[/url] and check out their generic Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. If you buy a shitload of it, it can cost as little as $1.99 per pill. In reasonable quanitities (say 30 or so) it runs about $3 per pill (100 mg). This place has a great rep and excellent customer service. Their generics are the real deal (I have personally been ripped off by 2 online sites selling fake generices) and are the EXACT same stuff as the brand name, however are made in countries that don't exactly cotton to U.S. drugmaker patent laws. I get the generic Cialis and it works just as well as the brand, which costs 4 or 5 times as much. I've referred dozens of people to this site from my Canadian prescription business (since Viagra, etc. actually averages a bit more in Canada) and my customers (most of whom are seniors) swear by it.

Two other bonuses; NO prescription is needed and they guarantee their prices, so if you find it cheaper on the web, let them know and they will match the price you find, plus take off another 5%. Hope this helps!

Nashboy is correct about http://www.rx-mex.com?kbid=4739 I buy quite a number of things from them and have never been disappointed. This is a little better link to them though

Sigue

03-29-05, 03:25

Hey BorderJumper,

What with all the strife we hear about in NL, I'd really like to get your opinion: Do you think it's safe now to go to BT? Have you been there lately? I know in the past you've said that it's all much ado about nothing and that life goes on as usual... but man, I dunno. I haven't been down since January and I'm feeling kind of reluctant... It's not that I think I'll get caught in the crossfire of some pitched gun battle; but man, I hear about the kidnappings of some pretty normal and nice sounding folks from Laredo; plus the report posted two weeks ago or so about BT being a ghost town, with cops hungry for shakedowns, and I ask myself, is it worth it??

I'm pretty much like you--I'm an older gringo guy, I show respect when I'm down there, and I have ALWAYS received respect in return... Even so, I'm gonna be interested in what you have to say about these extraordinary times...Many thanks bro!

--Sigue

Blourghus

03-29-05, 05:29

Hmm, Boys Town a ghost town? Yeah some clubs have closed over the last year or so - Pimp Daddy's and TaBu - but the rest of the clubs are humming. It's still tough to find a table at Danash or Papagayo's. I'm going down every 1-2 weeks, and am having as good a time as ever. There are many new girls coming regularly, the place is as good as it ever has been. Heck just a week ago there were like 5 new girls in Papagayo's I had never seen before (since the last week!), a couple of which we're among the best I've ever seen down there.

Police shakedowns on the rise? Of innocent gringos? The report from 2 weeks ago you're referring to seems vague, my guess would just be regurgitating what's been posted here. I certainly have never been the victim of anything of the sort, have seen no increase of reports in recent months.

Take a trip down there! The weather is supposed to be absolutely gorgeous this weekend.

Army Vato

03-29-05, 20:29

From the bridge how do i get to boys town. i know how to get to the bus station in nuevo laredo from bridge 2 thats its but how do i get to bt any directions will be apreciated.

Chiang Guy

03-30-05, 01:49

Went down to BT a couple of weeks ago, and I thought I would make a short trip report. This would have been Satuday, Mar, 12. This time I rented a room at the Star Bar, $17 for 12 hours. I did this so I would have a place to rest and shower between performances. I am not as young as I once was and need a little recovery time between performances. It also gave me a place to get away from the loud music and pushy girls when I wanted to rest. The room was just like one of the door girl rooms, with a bed , a shelf and a bathroom with toilet and shower. It was in the courtyard behind Star Bar and was relatively quiet. It was clean, if not quite five star in quality.

The first girl I got with was a door girl named Marta, a 22 year old from Reynosa. She agreed to a suck and fuck for $20. She gave a good covered BJ for about 7 or 8 minutes, then I fucked her mish style then finished up doggie style. She had three kids, and her belly was a little loose, but not too bad. Didn’t have any tits to speak of though. Still, not bad for a twenty.

After taking a shower and a nap in my hotel room I headed out to Papagayo’s. I have been going down to BT more or less regularly for a year of so, but hadn’t taken a girl from Papagayo’s even once. When I first started I mainly hit door girls (cheap). When I started taking the bar girls I just happened to end up mainly at places like the Blue Dragon, or 123 Club. I guess over time my tastes have gotten more expensive! Last time down I even did a girl at Danesh. The quality of service definitely improves as you move up the food chain. Of course it is more expensive too, so if you aren’t rich you have to weigh the cost. (Of course if you were rich, why the hell would you be going to BT?)

I turned away the first four or five girls, who stopped by my table to talk me up. I am pretty picky, and don’t even bother with most girls. I finally saw something that appealed, a petite young girl, without heavy makeup. I walked over to where she was talking to her friends and asked her if she would sit with me. I bought her a drink, talked for a while then ended up going to a room. After negotiation we agreed on $60 for her and $15 for the room. That seems kind of pricey for the room, but she said it was the standard. (Actually I paid everything in Pesos, so it was a little cheaper that way). Her name was Sissy, she was 20, from Monterrey, although she now goes to school in NL. She was in her last year of nursing school and mainly works Saturday nights. She definitely wasn’t a professional. She was quite willing, but her techique wasn't all that great. I guess she needs more practice, which I will be happy to supply. The BJ was OK, but when she rode cowgirl she didn’t really know how to ride a bronco like me (LOL). I rolled her over and sucked her tits a while before finishing mish style. She didn’t mind me sucking her tits at all, unlike some girls. Afterwards she cleaned me up, then we talked for the last few minutes before the door banging started. Overall, very friendly, tried very hard to please, not great technique, but close to GFE.

I went back to my room to shower and rest. I then went and had some tacos at Don Luis’s. After that I went I went to 123 Club and met the last girl of the night. Diana was a 23 year old from Monterrey. She had a real pretty face and was a good dancer. I had a couple of drinks with her and agreed to $50 for her and $10 for the room. She was a lot of fun, lively and bouncy. She did real good cowgirl. Her thighs were kind of thick and she had a bit of a big butt, so I kept falling out when we tried doggie and mish. We finished up cowgirl, and it was fine. She tried to teach me some Spanish toungetwister that started out “Tres tigres tristes” and went on about tragan triga blah, blah, blah, but I couldn’t learn it.

When I was done around 3:00 AM I went back to my room and slept for a couple of hours before heading back to Austin. Renting a room at Star Bar worked out well, I’ll probably use that method again. (Although you can’t lock the door, so don’t leave any valuables).

Fayce Paynter

03-30-05, 04:02

Vato,

If you don't know exactly how to get there, I highly recommend a taxi.
No hassles, much safer.

On another note, your handle reminded me of sitting inside the Tamyko Club in Nuevo Laredo's Boys Town one night a few years ago. Sitting with one spinner, talking.

Another pulls up beside us and says the four guys at the table she was at were rude assholes.

I tell her she can join us if it's okay with the chica I'm talking to. No problem.
Next thing I know, we're singing, "Hey Baby, que paso?

I thought I was your only vato"

They were impressed that I knew it.

Long story short, I end up in the room with both of them.

100 degrees outside, about 200 degrees inside.

Un-fucking- believable!

That was about 7 years ago.

Thanks for the 'reminder'.

FP

Blourghus

03-30-05, 04:09

From the bridge how do i get to boys town. i know how to get to the bus station in nuevo laredo from bridge 2 thats its but how do i get to bt any directions will be apreciated.
So, if you already know how to get to the Bus Station, once you're on Calle Anahuac, instead of taking the left to the bus station, just go straight under the railroad bridge, until the next light, and turn right at the next stoplight (Calle Monterrey) - there is a Pemex. The compound will be on your left. It's about 5 blocks from the bus station.

Blourghus

03-30-05, 18:58

I finally saw something that appealed, a petite young girl, without heavy makeup. I walked over to where she was talking to her friends and asked her if she would sit with me. I bought her a drink, talked for a while then ended up going to a room. After negotiation we agreed on $60 for her and $15 for the room. That seems kind of pricey for the room, but she said it was the standard. (Actually I paid everything in Pesos, so it was a little cheaper that way). Her name was Sissy, she was 20, from Monterrey, although she now goes to school in NL. She was in her last year of nursing school and mainly works Saturday nights. She definitely wasn’t a professional. She was quite willing, but her techique wasn't all that great. I guess she needs more practice, which I will be happy to supply. The BJ was OK, but when she rode cowgirl she didn’t really know how to ride a bronco like me (LOL). I rolled her over and sucked her tits a while before finishing mish style. She didn’t mind me sucking her tits at all, unlike some girls. Afterwards she cleaned me up, then we talked for the last few minutes before the door banging started. Overall, very friendly, tried very hard to please, not great technique, but close to GFE.

LOL, I met this same girl there a couple weeks ago Friday. She is brand new, and is hot, and is the first Papagayo's girl I ever met without kids. Can you believe this? She wouldn't go to the room with me; I sat down with for a while, and when I finally asked to go to the room, her friend comes over and they go out to the disco. Whatever. Glad you had a pretty good time with her, I will live through your experience. :)

Army Vato

04-02-05, 15:54

BorderJumper

04-03-05, 17:47

hey borderjumper,

what with all the strife we hear about in nl, i'd really like to get your opinion: do you think it's safe now to go to bt? have you been there lately? i know in the past you've said that it's all much ado about nothing and that life goes on as usual... but man, i dunno. i haven't been down since january and i'm feeling kind of reluctant... it's not that i think i'll get caught in the crossfire of some pitched gun battle; but man, i hear about the kidnappings of some pretty normal and nice sounding folks from laredo; plus the report posted two weeks ago or so about bt being a ghost town, with cops hungry for shakedowns, and i ask myself, is it worth it??

i'm pretty much like you--i'm an older gringo guy, i show respect when i'm down there, and i have always received respect in return... even so, i'm gonna be interested in what you have to say about these extraordinary times...many thanks bro!

--sigue

sigue,

good to see you back man. i stand by what i have said all along down here. show respect, behave yourelf and you will have no problems.

the kidnappings you have been reading about here are basically people being where they shouldn't be or trying to get involved in something they should stay away from.

the war going on between the narcotraficantes and cops is kept pretty much away from the civilian population. i think they realize that once a civilian is involved in the crossfire, then all hell is going to break loose on them so it seems they are pretty careful

we have a very heavy presence of federal and state police with the army doing the roadblocks outside the city limits. live goes on as normal.

for army vato....drive your car using common sense. no right turns on red, watch your speed and again, act like your momma raised you and you will have no problems. i have several nice late model vehicles down here and have never had a problem. check with your insurance company for coverage within the zona frontera. i have mine with fred loya and i am covered to the interior checkpoint. this is in writing by the way!

Dihaji

04-06-05, 05:54

sigue,

good to see you back man. i stand by what i have said all along down here. show respect, behave yourelf and you will have no problems.

the kidnappings you have been reading about here are basically people being where they shouldn't be or trying to get involved in something they should stay away from.

the war going on between the narcotraficantes and cops is kept pretty much away from the civilian population. i think they realize that once a civilian is involved in the crossfire, then all hell is going to break loose on them so it seems they are pretty careful

we have a very heavy presence of federal and state police with the army doing the roadblocks outside the city limits. live goes on as normal.

for army vato....drive your car using common sense. no right turns on red, watch your speed and again, act like your momma raised you and you will have no problems. i have several nice late model vehicles down here and have never had a problem. check with your insurance company for coverage within the zona frontera. i have mine with fred loya and i am covered to the interior checkpoint. this is in writing by the way!hey guys,

just wanted to drop a few lines and introduce myself, along with add a few of my own 2 cents. been on the forum for a few months, but it took awhile for me to finally get my regular membership.

anyways, i was raised in laredo and travel down there a lot. i can tell you that there are a lot of dangers when it comes to nuevo laredo, but it all comes down to two things. as mentioned, show the proper respect, and never travel alone just to add on to what borderjumper said. i would also suggest, and it is just my suggestion, not to ever drive there because they will look for any reason to pull you over and shake you down if you dont look like a regular. do not give them any reason to stop you, believe me on this one. i have been in jail two time and no, there is no big guy in jail that sits around to shake you down and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you as the urban legend goes back when i was a kid growing up in laredo. maybe that happens in prison or something..

back to the point, just be cool, and travel atleast in a group of two, but three would be better and they will just sit back and watch you have fun. i say "they" in regards to the cartel/drug trafficers and the police officers over there.

anyways.. i personally will be heading back down there soon, not sure when but soon. and i will not make the mistakes made the last two time i ended up in jail.

peace,

d

also.. as it has been mentioned over and over before.. take a cab, it is just safer, but to each his own.

Dihaji

04-06-05, 06:05

Well you guys have giving me some great advice. So I should take a taxi, no problem. So where do I park my car in Laredo that I don't know? I'd rather drive all the way. I've been driving to Mexico from Tijuana to Gaudalajara to San Luis Potosi from as far as I can remember, but if you guys say take a taxi is better, it must be, since I've never been to Boys Town in Laredo.

Well, so where do I park brothers?

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of each word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You.

JacksonThere is an all night parking lot right there in the downtown mall district. You cant miss it. The walk is kinda dark and scary, but just remember, that he border has so much LE that no one will really try anything around there, even at night.

Just walk from there to the bridge. I would say about less then 10 minutes total till you are hailing a cab and on your way to BT's. Also, just in case you do not want to bother going straight down to BT's. There are also like 4 or 5 bars right there on or near Guerro that offer the same service. The women are not that hot, but sometimes it is worth taking a look. I have been there maybe like 5 times, and out of the 5 I have taken out 3 girls. Two hotties one day, and then like 1 the third trip out there. At about 30 bucks a pop, and they do almost anything.. it really is worth a look.

Peace,

D

Ohhhh... Montero Cantina I think is the name of one of them. Just start there and you can find the rest just by asking around.

Ojos Grandes

04-07-05, 00:08

Dihaji

04-07-05, 22:38

I go to Laredo for business a couple of times a month. Always I end up in NL in my own vehicle. There isn't any reason to be paranoid about driving over there if you use the basic precautions. If you drive while drinking and get stopped you are in deep shit. As BJ says don't turn right on red even if others are doing it.

Driving in NL isn't rocket science if you know where you are going. Stay sober and use common sense and you won't have any problems.

I guess I was just unlucky then.. =(

It seems that I was sober and driving perfectly legal that last time I drove there leaving BT's, and they pulled me over claiming I was drunk. They will do the distract and search technique, which has been done several times in the past, but I always had someone with me to watch the second cop. The last time I was alone, low and behold, they happen to find crack in the back of my 4 runner. I had never even seen crack, so you can imagine the puzzled look on my face when they were waving it in front of me, I actually reached out to grab it so that I could examine it just out of curiousity. Anyways.. long story short, 10 hours in jail, 600 dollars later I was driving on my way home finally enjoying the open space between my counsole where my stereo used to be listening to my own thoughts of "STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!" This lasted all the way till I got back to my house in Laredo, TX and then when I parked it ended with the simple thought of "Fackkkkk!!!!".

It is not rocket science, I agree.. but it can happen to anyone, in my case, I know better then to go alone, and blame no one buy myself because I know it has happened to one other friend of mine awhile back ago. I just believed it could not happen to me is all.

I would say that this was my 100,000 time driving there.. lol.. just kidding.. but I have drivin in Nuevo Laredo since I was 16 and still drive today, except for when I am specifically going to BT's. Bar hopping and drinking or just visiting my family in NL does not freak me out the least bit and I drive just like anyone else would around there.. but it seems the cops really watch for anyone leaving BT's. Just my own 2 cents...

As Ojos said: It is not rocket science and use common sense.. otherwise, if you just dont feel like worring about either or, then just take a cab. =)

Ojos Grandes

04-11-05, 02:57

[QUOTE=Dihaji]I guess I was just unlucky then.. =(

It seems that I was sober and driving perfectly legal that last time I drove there leaving BT's, and they pulled me over claiming I was drunk. They will do the distract and search technique, which has been done several times in the past, but I always had someone with me to watch the second cop. The last time I was alone, low and behold, they happen to find crack.[QUOTE]I was in NL this weekend and drove all over the city from Friday until this morning. I wasn't near BT and wasn't out and about in the early morning hours. I'm not questioning what you say but you are painting a picture of driving in NL that may not be accurate. You are probably right though that the casual monger should take cabs if they are going to do everything in La Zona.

Laredin

04-12-05, 22:20

Forget boystown and its thief cops.

Come the PUNTO G behind Soriana. Its a new mens club and its very safe clean girls. Any cab can take you guys there and the club have a courtessy car so they can take back to the bridge safe. You can find the complete addrress here [Email Address deleted by Admin]

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Blourghus

04-13-05, 17:29

Hmm, is Punto G the same as La Corparacion? The location is the same, behind Soriana. I went there a few months ago. Anyways, the cover charge was $10, drinks were around $5, and 30 minute private room was like $220. Nice girls but expensive.

Neobes

04-13-05, 23:18

$220 for 30 minutes? We're talking Nuevo Laredo here, right? Holy shit that is expensive! You could have 3 encounters with Papagayos best girls, a couple of beers, tacos, and cab fare for that price.

Dihaji

04-15-05, 02:14

Dude,

That is a lot of money. For that kind of money, you could take a girl out of BT's for the entire knight and stick it in every hole she gots. Dude.

Anyways, a bit off topic, what happened to the boards here in the US? Just curious.

Peace,

D

Ojos Grandes

04-17-05, 20:44

There hasn't been a lot of traffic here lately, but when there was many posters placed an emphasis on trying to find the proverbial GFE. I go there occasionally and have hit or miss success with this type of encounter. My thoughts about how it can happen are the following:

1. It isn't going to happen with a door girl in a 30 minute encounter.

2. Regardless of your age you have to be at least passable in your appearance and in reasonably good shape for your age.

3. Being neatly dressed and well groomed is a plus.

4. The chance of it happening is inversely related to the time she has been working. Full timers who live on site vs. girls who travel from towns in Nuevo Leon and Coahuila occasionally.

5. Being able to communicate in Spanish increases the odds greatly. Few girls have even an elementary grasp of English. If her conversation includes "Fuckee, Suckee" you can forget about it.

6. It probably isn't going to happen on the first encounter in a room in the club.

7. From the girl's standpoint your level of alcohol consumption and her perception of your sobriety will certainly effect her desire and performance. If she's also hammered it probably won't happen.

Generalizations I know but I'm interested in other comments. To me if you can't carry on a real conversation in Spanish your chances of getting max value out of the encounter are slim.

Blourghus

04-17-05, 23:10

$220 for 30 minutes? We're talking Nuevo Laredo here, right? Holy shit that is expensive! You could have 3 encounters with Papagayos best girls, a couple of beers, tacos, and cab fare for that price.
Last night I was in Monterrey at one of the high end SC's, and for entertainment purposes, I asked her how much for sex. She quoted me a price of over $500 US Dollars for just a blow job, no sex allowed!

Mr Majik

04-25-05, 19:22

I don't post too often here, but I have a blog that I am starting to write on the web and I thought I would post an entry about Nuevo Laredo a couple of weeks ago.

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Back to the escapades at my undisclosed location...

It's surprising how liberating writing can be -- even if you don't have an audience (which it seems that I do not).

I went down to Mexico at around 8pm -- enough to give myself some time to saturate myself a bit before moving into the scene. I was driving a fairly nice car, so I got a lot of unwanted attention in an area where many of the affluent are involved in illicit activities. I imagine I am involved in an illicit activity myself(*****mongering), but not one that would allow me to buy a fancy car or house; quite the opposite actually.

My first stop was at a bar that I've been before -- where the women have their own rooms in the back and they charge between $45 and $65 for a "short time" stay. In my previous experience I was able to get a woman for $35 -- though she was a little larger than most. She was attractive nonetheless and I find that princesses (particularly "American princesses") who have been raised to think they are God's gift to the world are often unachievers in the bedroom. I'm sure many men echo that sentiment, because it's been a fairly consistent observation for me. At any rate, we had a calorie-reducing experience that lasted about 1.5 hours. But today, I didn't see anything that interested me, so after another beer, I walked to another bar/brothel that I had heard online was pretty nice.

When I entered I saw a girl I had met a while back in another city in Mexico. Her body was one of the best I had ever had (outside of a couple of my real girlfriends), with legs that ended at an amazingly perfect butt. We had had a great time before and I had taken her to a local hotel for a full night experience. We had exchanged numbers before, but I never called. She mentioned that she had tried to get in touch with me but my number had changed. My number had actually changed so she could have been telling the truth, but my natural inclination is not to immediately trust someone who I am paying for sex later that night.

At any rate, after a couple of beers, we hit her room, which was small but clean. I rocked it; just over an hour and she never needed lubricant despite the fact that she had probably done three or four other guys before me. I'm the type who likes to change sexual positions often and I generally "take control of the situation -- never staying longer than 8-10 minutes in any one position. That is, unless I sense that my partner is particularly enjoying one position over another. We finished up, I washed a bit and I coldly left. I didn't even ask for her number again as she seemed to have gotten too deep in the trade and no longer had the newness and innocence that attracted me to her initially.

By then, it is about 10:00pm and I'm taking a break to reinvigorate my "manhood". I drive around to the door girls, who are girls who rent rooms in the little compound and charge $20 for very basic sex. I typically don't like that since they have plenty of limitations (nude is extra $10, only two positions, blah..blah..blah...) $20 is a bargain, but I value the experience, so I go to a bar that is off the main strip just to relax and listen to some good music. I never really like Mexican music, so I ask for any other music that they may have...there is a juke box and the annoying waiter (like most are in Mexico) puts on some merengue for me to pass the time. But of course, being a gringo (all of which have plenty money of course), I am approached by several women, including an average-looking girl with a decent body who asks "me invita a un trago"...which means "can you invite me for a drink?" I guess one won't hurt. Famous last words.

This was actually the scariest experiences in terms of both excitement and the level of risque that I had had in a while. I bought her a drink and within 10 minutes she is gyrating on my lap -- nude. She then whips out the boss and inserts him into her --- condomless. I'm pretty tipsy by now and I didn't realize what she was doing until it was already part of the way in. I couldn't believe it. I didn't know whether to worry out of my mind or try to enjoy myself. Of course, being the person I am, I chose to enjoy myself. It was too late after all -- the damage had already been already done. Sufficed to say, I bought her a few more drinks and we enjoyed ourselves in that way for a little while. I ran out of cash after about 30 minutes (I had spent about $25) so I left to run to the ATM and came back for one last drink. I never finished though and wasn't particularly interested in finishing with her. Off I was to the first bar I had come to earlier that night.

I think I must have been exuding some sexual "I'm horny" scent because the women were all over me. A tipsy gringo who was ripe for the picking. I left because it was a little too aggressive and went to the bar next door where I met another girl who was more of the girlfriend type. We talked for while until she had to dance and I slipped out to go back to the last bar to relieve my sexual frustrations. I ran into a cute woman with an amazing butt. Now, I prefer nice breasts to a nice butt, but it seemed that I simply couldn't pass this one up. We went upstairs after she quoted me a price of $40 including the normal $10 charge for the room. Of course she wanted the money up front, so I obliged. Then it was on.

I'm a connoiseur of oral sex -- not for me but for the girl I'm with at the time. I had never done oral sex on a girl, but she took a shower before hand and she seemed clean. (Okay -- express your shock here). Twice in one night with unprotected sex in a manner of speaking. At any rate, I think it is safe to say, she enjoyed herself. After she climaxed, she pushed me away for a moment to be to herself. She said I was her boyfriend and that she had never felt like that with a customer. Again, the trusting the prostitute thing comes into play here, but it was probably partly true. When it was my turn, I did my thing and rather enjoyed myself also.

I left content but not fully satisfied. I wanted sex again, but I needed to quench my thirst for breastiges. About 5 minutes later I was accosted by a slightly plus size girl outside of the club who was wearing a revealing top showing her 36 DDs. That was enough and I paid her $20 and satisfied that thirst I had. By then, it was about 2:00 and being in a foreign country, I felt that it was time to leave.

Up at 11:00am and still hungry, I played some Internet poker and I flew home. Satisfying trip for all of my vices.

TX Horn

04-26-05, 23:06

You do have a talent for writing, but I can't believe with the dangers out there you let a lady do you bareback. Risky behavior, but it's your member, not mine.

TX Horn

Dihaji

04-27-05, 08:32

Mr. Majik,

Excellent writing skills, really like it. In regards to the condomless, well, I have to admit it has happened to me twice in a state of extreme drunkness. I make it a point not to drink too much when I am there now just for that specific reason.

Intrestingly enough, the first time was over 4.5 or 5 years ago, and to this day she is a really good friend of mine and is no longer in that line of work, never really was I think, she just danced for money. As a matter of fact, it was so ackward when I handed her the money the first time, she laughed, and said keep it and take me out for breakfest in the morning. She was here in San Antonio with her boyfriend just a week ago and we went out for lunch and she really wanted me to meet him for approval. Of course he does not have a clue to how I met her.. but does it really matter? Anyways, checked my self out and I am safe.. lucky number 1

The second one, I met her when she was very very new to the scene, and she pretty much fell for me and would call me every other day, this was over 4 years ago give or take also and I lived in Houston and she wanted to visit. She goes by the name of Allundra, and still works there. Or atleast I think she still does. She is no longer inoccent anymore, obviously, and when we speak, I can see how much she has changed and our conversations are no where near what they were back then. I think she kinda hates me now even, maybe she saw me as her way out when she needed one back when she first started. O-well, you can not save the whole world.. Anyways, checked myself out and this was lucky number 2

It is pretty risky, and I was just lucky I guess. But you know, really when you think about it, sometimes I think you may be just as safe if not safer with someone in the sex industry compared to someone that is not in the sex industry when you go condomless. LOL

I can already imagine all the post. So before anything comes back, let me just say that I will NOT and have NOT taken that chance to find out. I also do not recommend anyone to do so, just be safe and wrap it up... END OF STORY.

In regards to why I think it, maybe you guys can let me know if you though it or not at one point or another. When I was with these pro's, I remember one incident where the condom slipped off, but I saw this happen before she was about to come back down on me (she was on top) and so I stopped her. She thought that we had been doing it with condom off the whole time and freaked and was asking me a hundred and one questions. I have been asked and told by a lot of hookers not this way, I wont do this.. blah blah blah..

My theory, I am guessing that they are just as scared of diseases as we are if not more being that they do it for a living.

Now, let us explore the actuall exsisting girlfriend scenario. I was dating this one girl who I knew from high school, and felt really comfortable with her and had a lot of trust in her, it has been 10 yrs since high school, then and I bump into her in Houston at a club. Anyways, long story short, we had sex, a lot of sex and without a condom when I saw her in Houston. A few months of this, and I am thinking I really like her and would not mind getting involved with this girl. Well, low and behold, me being the person that I am, decided to investigate and it was good that I did. Because even though she was a great person and very honest in High School, the times have changed her and I was just one out of like possibly 5 guys she was sleeping with at one time. Did she sleep with them condomless, I dont know and will probably never know. This question could be asked about hookers also, but I think that they will more then likely be honest with you compared to someone that is caught or discovered.

My point, she (the gf) is not labeled as a pro, therefore most guys that sleep with this girl will not know or even consider the consequences that come with sleeping with her condomless. And yes, I know that there are gonig to be alot of guys that say stuff like.. "I would never sleep with anyone without a condom" and stuff of that nature. Great, but this girl was so innoccent and so far from a ****, that she would but any pro to shame and catch any guy she wanted bareback and all...

Anyways... sorry for the long entry, but just some thoughts I had passing through my mind that I wanted to share with you other mongers to see if it is just me, or has everyone thought this at one point or another?

Ohhh... also, I am pumping myself up for a trip to Laredo soon. I am guessing maybe this weekend. Not sure yet, any suggestions, it has been about 8 months or so since I have been back. Anything new to look for, like a solid great piece of ass in any known specific places.

Peace,

D

Also, again I emphazize, I am NOT for condomless sex in BT or any other part of the world, and do not suggest it. This is just a passing thought I had at one point or another and decided to share it.

Mr Majik

04-27-05, 14:56

Stupid behavior is more like it.

Point well taken. Trust me that will not happen again.

Daddy Rulz

04-27-05, 17:42

While I have been mongering exclusively in Argentina for some time, I did visit BT a few years ago. I never experianced the unwrapped variant there but have had two unusual experiances in BsAs. I think that when a chica is trying to tell you that she likes you more than a regular john they want to go uncovered. I actually had a provider in Argentina grab my dick with her hand and try to force me in her bareback pulling with her hand and using her legs around my back to help. All the time pouting and saying mi amor por favor sin condom. I felt like Austin Powers being pulled into Dr. Evils mojo draining device.

Another thing they do down there is ask you to go anal when they like you, it's as if they are offering something special.

As much as Daddy enjoys the feel of pussy with an unencumbered dick his big head hopefully will always over rule the little one and as Kim Wilson used to say "Wrap, Wrap, Wrap it up.

Excellent points from Dihaji.

Explorer 2004

05-03-05, 23:35

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Kosher Kowboy

05-07-05, 20:46

Several of us will be meeting in Papagayos at 10 PM this nite, all are wel-kum to join.

KosherCowboy

Fla_FunMeister

05-13-05, 01:00

Bbond

05-13-05, 05:52

Several of us will be meeting in Papagayos at 10 PM this nite, all are wel-kum to join.

KosherCowboy

Anyone from DFW area interested in splitting costs and making the drive that weekend?? PM me.
Like to leave DFW area around, say, noonish on Friday and return Sunday to arrive back in the DFW area before 8pm. I drive to Laredo, leave car at bridge.

TX Horn

05-13-05, 16:59

I'll be there that weekend to enjoy the ladies. I'll be I'm cuming from the Houston area. If anyone is interested, PM me.

Horn

Bbond

05-14-05, 05:21

I will be headed down there this Tuesday. I have 3 windows of time to choose from. 4-6 pm, 7-9pm or 10-12midnight. I would like to aviod the last one, as I need to drive to San Antonio that night.

First, will two hours be enough?

Second, will there be women available at each of those times? Third, how late are the pharmacias open and what is the charge for the blue vitamin down there?

If you have to ask, sounds like you are not familiar with the layout of the place, then it prolly is not enough time to acomplish much. Maybe grab a girl from downtown for a short time, the Herradura Bar usually has a fair selection and is very close to the border.

Blourghus

05-14-05, 17:09

I will be headed down there this Tuesday. I have 3 windows of time to choose from. 4-6 pm, 7-9pm or 10-12midnight. I would like to aviod the last one, as I need to drive to San Antonio that night.

First, will two hours be enough?

Second, will there be women available at each of those times? Third, how late are the pharmacias open and what is the charge for the blue vitamin down there?
Prior to 10PM there will be very few girls in the clubs, however most room girls come out between 7PM-8PM. If you are content doing room girls 7PM-9PM would be an OK time and it would be possible to do 2-3 room girls comfortably within that time (as the sessions are short, and the negotation process is quick). It'd be tough to do more than 1 club girl in the 10PM-12AM slot, as it generally takes longer to find and select a girl, and the sessions are longer.

Pharamacies are open 24 hours and Viagra costs $9 for 50 mg, or $13 for 100 mg.

Fla_FunMeister

05-15-05, 15:55

Bbond

05-16-05, 18:47

Thanks for the information. It is very helpful. One last question, if I may.

Should I exchange US dollars for Pesos and transact everything in Pesos?

Or do I get a better deal with dollars?

Thanks again for the answers.
It really don't matter, dollars are accepted everywhere, and easier to keep track of. With the current exchange rate, you may come out slightly ahead by using pesos, but not enought to worry about changing back and forth.
At 11:1, US$100 will get you MN$1100, in Juarez I would get pesos, but in NL I would stay with dollars. Boystown prices are quoted in dollars. In Juarez, the massage parlors always quote pesos and exchange at 10:1, so pesos are better there.
So for a quick visit to NLBT, I would recommed using US$.

Blourghus

05-18-05, 02:17

Should I exchange US dollars for Pesos and transact everything in Pesos?

I never spend dollars in MX (with the exception of the $1 bill which is occasionally useful). In general you will save about 10% percent on every BT transaction so it's somewhat foolish to pay in dollars. However, a couple things to note:

1. Taxis in NL will NOT accept pesos at 10:1 rate and it's better to pay them in dollars.

2. Right now many businesses (restaurants, hotels, etc.) have 11:1 rate for dollars so it's actually better to pay those businesses in dollars as the dollar is currently a little below that. However 10:1 ALWAYS applies in BT and did so even when the dollar was much higher than it is now.

Boy54

05-18-05, 19:31

Like Blourghus I always use pesos and receive my 10% discount, taxis included! Anyone quotes me prices in dollars I multiply by ten and pay in pesos, and no one has ever questioned this.

Blourghus

05-19-05, 06:19

Like Blourghus I always use pesos and receive my 10% discount, taxis included! Anyone quotes me prices in dollars I multiply by ten and pay in pesos, and no one has ever questioned this.
Interesting; I rarely take taxis in NL but the last time I did I handed taxista MX$100 for a $10 ride and he responded, "That's not $10", and proceeded to extract a total of MX$120 from me. I've heard 1 or 2 other similar reports. It might be a good idea to confirm the price in pesos if that's how you intend to pay before getting inside. In any case. where it does make a difference - paying the girls - I have NEVER been given so much as a second glance for paying 10:1 in NL.

Bbond

05-21-05, 01:15

Interesting: I rarely take taxis in NL but the last time I did I handed taxista MX$100 for a $10 ride and he responded, "That's not $10", and proceeded to extract a total of MX$120 from me. I've heard 1 or 2 other similar reports. It might be a good idea to confirm the price in pesos if that's how you intend to pay before getting inside. In any case. where it does make a difference - paying the girls - I have NEVER been given so much as a second glance for paying 10:1 in NL.

Last time I went, I walked a little away from the centro distric, not far really, caught a cab fo MN$70(paid US$7), the ride back was US$10 tho as I got the cab in BT.

Always ask before getting in the cab, see if they will accept MN$100, if he won't find another.

Neobes

05-21-05, 02:26

Blourghus

05-21-05, 17:07

http://www.banderasnews.com/0501/nr-minwages.htm

Here is an interesting link to an article which gives average daily minimum wages for different professions in mexico. The prices are in pesos, so just divide by 10 and you'll roughly have the daily dollar amount. If the average worker with a good-paying, full-time job in the state of Tamaulipas makes about $6 - $7 PER DAY, how in the FUCK do the cab drivers charge us $10 EACH WAY to boystown($12 if you want to pay in pesos)??? Not trying to be a heartless, super-cheap, gringo bastard, but the round trip to BT in the cab would cover 20 minutes with a smokin' hot doorgirl. Anybody else wondered this? These guys make more than an average day's pay for ONE TRIP.
Interesting link; yes, $10 is a total rip-off (and is one of the main reasons I drive) but who knows where the $10 actually goes. The taxistas in Nuevo Laredo are very powerful. Ever notice how taxis never get pulled over, and the riders are never hassled? Maybe there is some sort of police protection payoff involved. Also they charge locals $5 which is still a rip-off.

In Monterrey - which is a more expensive city overall, and where the taxis are newer and better maintained - taxis are metered and few rides cost more than $1-$2. In most cities where there are unmetered taxis, the "gringo price" is more like $5.

Bbond

05-22-05, 08:49

First trip to BT I also drove into NL, bought insurance in Laredo. I have been driving into Juarez for years and am very comfortable doing so.
NL is a lot different tho, things are mainly in 2 areas, downtown and BT, so driving isn't really all that nescessary. I like to drink the cervesas, and stay out late, so getting stopped is very risky, may not go to jail, but the fines or bribes I'd have to pay, added to the insurance I already had spent, make paying taxis seem cheap by comparison.
Then you have to drive back across and deal with traffic, and the a**holes with immigration.
Next trip I parked by the bridge, paid $8 I think. Spent $17 on taxis in NL, so $25, just about what insurance alone would have cost.

I do, however, agree that the price of taxis is high, but they charge what they want, they know you have the money, they know you have little choice. Pay or make other arrangements.

Last trip there, I got a girl from the Herradura to spend the night, she is a waitress there, I didn't ask her, rather she asked me. Not sure if I posted that before, but if you have not read that, and even if you did, you prolly do not, or would not believe what she charged me.

Blourghus

05-22-05, 15:56

I stay out late and drink also, but I solve that problem by staying at a hotel within Boys Town. DUI is allowed within the compound, and won't even be necessary unless you stay really far away from the main action. Then you can get a good night's sleep, and head back sober, in full day light. I never understood how people park on the US side. That is just moving the DUI charge to the US, no? Which would be much worse than in Mexico.

You can get one year's insurance from Ada Vis for $83/year including legal protection (liability only - which is all I need). That pays for itself over about 4 trips, but I drive all over Nuevo Laredo and the freedom is absolutely invaluable. I avoid the overpriced downtown district altogether except for a couple of good restaurants.

Yeah, the worst part is driving back to the US. Though I've noticed this year the lines have been a lot quicker and the inspections a lot less gruelling than in the years past. I'm not looking forward to coming back on Memorial Day though (Monterrey!!)

Bbond

05-22-05, 22:57

That is just moving the DUI charge to the US, no? Which would be much worse than in Mexico.
I sleep in and then walk back stone sober.
I have never considered staying in the compound, might be a good idea if the rooms are reasonably comfortable, and food is available in the morning. Having visited BT only twice, both visits for one night each, I am not nearly familiar with it as I am with Juarez. I am planning to visit BT June 3-4-5, staying Friday and Saturday nights, have not decided where to stay yet.
I kinda like the idea of staying in the compound, but also like staying downtown too.
Yearly insurance is a good idea if you live close and visit frequently.

Booger Bear

05-25-05, 14:22

I've been to Boystown a few times and always had a good time. However, I haven't been in several years but was hoping for a return this summer.

Not to knock the useful info on here but, I'd like to see a few more reviews. Anyone been down lately, how was it?

Bbond

05-25-05, 22:43

Not to knock the useful info on here but, I'd like to see a few more reviews. Anyone been down lately, how was it?

You're kidding, right?

BabyHuey

05-28-05, 03:34

Well Baby Huey has made last minute plans to hit up BT this weekend. If anybody else that are going to be there Saturday night read this before they go, look me up I will be hanging around in Pappas from about 9:30-11:00 find the 6'2" 280# white guy. Will be wearing my glasses and probably a blue "TEXANS" ball cap and a white plain pocket tee.

See yall horney bastards there.

Sancho Villa

06-01-05, 02:06

i went (for the first time) to the world famous papagayos last week and boy was i not impressed. it seemed like a high school cafeteria with terrazo flooring and walls and was not anything like i expected. i truly think that hunter's club in acuna has this place beat hands down. i did pluck a gem out of there. angelica de saltillo gave me a good gfe for a couple of hours. wow can that girl give head! likes the mota though, but what the hell. i'll try some of the other clubs my next visit but for now, i've still got angelica on my mind and on my speed dial of the old cell phone. i think that she could suck a soccer ball thru a dixie straw if you asked her to.

also, where is the dancing girls at papas? don't they have dancers there? hunter's has them full time! i really missed that. it gives you something to do between pops. the zona has really been hit hard due to the cartel bs down in laredo, but i had no trouble. just get in the cab and ride and get in the cab and leave. if you are looking for trouble then you can surely find it.
behave yourselves and everything is cool.

i'll be back soon. headed for cozumel in a few weeks to wear e'm out there.

sancho

LexLuther

06-01-05, 23:51

Please someone answer a stupid question from someone who has never been to NL. Do I need passport to get into Mexico or to get back into U.S.

Thanks.

Lex

Booger Bear

06-01-05, 23:55

You do not need a passport. Go have fun.

Bbond

06-02-05, 00:54

Please someone answer a stupid question from someone who has never been to NL. Do I need passport to get into Mexico or to get back into U.S.

Thanks.

Lex

No.....no passport needed, they are talking about it tho, but right now. no....

LexLuther

06-02-05, 04:04

bbond,

Thanks.

Lex

Boy54

06-02-05, 19:06

Currently passport is not required but starting in 2008. Technically, you should have either passport or certified copy of birth certificate and government issued picture ID, eg drivers license, though they rarely ask to see anything going in or out. If you want to go further in, say to Monterrey, you will need the above plus tourist card and, if driving, a temporary import permit for the car.

LexLuther

06-02-05, 22:31

Thanks to all you mongers for you info.

Do any of you know anything about a place in San Antonio called DuoBella? Someone posted about it but was afraid to post phone numbers. Please PM me if you do?

Also if I get to Nuevo Laredo, are there any interesting tourist attractions in the nearby area? I know nothing about Mexico. I'd like to see something interesting or beautiful.

Thanks.

LexLuther

Blourghus

06-03-05, 00:36

Also if I get to Nuevo Laredo, are there any interesting tourist attractions in the nearby area? I know nothing about Mexico. I'd like to see something interesting or beautiful.

There is nothing beautiful or interesting in Nuevo Laredo; it is a city of drug gangs, deported illegal immigrants, and brothels. I can't think of what you might possibly do outside of the monger/bar scene; there are bullfights but only on Sunday during the summer. Be sure to eat at El Rancho which is a really good restaurant. Other than that, I'm at a loss. If you have time, head 2.5 hours south to Monterrey which is indeed beautiful and has tons of interesting things to do.

LexLuther

06-03-05, 01:30

Blourghus,

That's what I'm talking about. Going to someplace like Monterey. What's there?
I've already figured out that once I'm done whoring, there's little else to do in NL.

LexLuther

Blourghus

06-03-05, 02:35

That's what I'm talking about. Going to someplace like Monterey. What's there?
I've already figured out that once I'm done whoring, there's little else to do in NL.

There's the macroplaza, planetarium, several museums, many very beautiful natural places, as well as many very nice restaurants and good nightlife. Here's a web site with some tourist info: http://www.allaboutmonterrey.com/

If you're going to Monterrey anyways, the mongering scene is arguably substantially better than NL so you check that out in addition to (or instead of NL), depending on your schedule. I recommend you contact AmigoMio who is the resident expert on Monterrey. Note that it is 2.5 hours from NL and you will need to get Mexico visa in order to get down there; you can take bus or you can drive car (to drive car you need to get permit).

LexLuther

06-03-05, 16:35

Blourghus,

Monterrey is beginning to sound much better as you say. I went to the site you recommended and it looks like a beautiful city, much better in terms of scenery, culture, etc. What about massage establishments for mongering. I'm not much on bars and the like.

LexLuther

Blourghus

06-03-05, 17:07

Monterrey is beginning to sound much better as you say. I went to the site you recommended and it looks like a beautiful city, much better in terms of scenery, culture, etc. What about massage establishments for mongering. I'm not much on bars and the like.

There are a bunch of MP's in Monterrey (they call them 'esteticas'). Here's a web page with some ads: http://www.sexymonterrey.com/. Honestly I have only been to a few MP's in Monterrey and have found them to be pretty low end. They are inexpensive (around $20 for FS) but in my opinion the girls are not very attractive and the service isn't great. I am not aware of any high-end MP's in Monterrey although there may be some. OTOH, I personally love the SC's in Monterrey and they are world class.

I recommend you post a message asking about MP's in the Monterrey section (under North Mexico) and I'm sure the guys there will be able to help point to you to good MP's. I believe there are casas de citas also but am not familiar with that part of the scene.

LexLuther

06-03-05, 17:38

Blourghus,

What are SC's and what are Cassas de Citas?

Will I have a big problem in Monterrey with minimal to no Spanish?

I love your handle. What (if anything) does it mean?

LexLuther

Boy54

06-03-05, 18:48

Lex,

SC's are surprise! strip clubs. Casas de citas (literally houses of assignations) are essentially brothels although some are take-out only. With no Spanish you probably would do better to travel with someone who does speak some or stick to the border towns or resort areas (Cancun, Puerta Vallarta, etc.) Unlike Europe, in most of Mexico English speakers are fairly rare. But a lot depends on you. Some people are good at sign language.

For Monterrey however you have a great resource right here. Amigomio, a poster on this board, lives in Monterrey, speaks excellent English, and is generally quite helpful to wannabe gringo mongers, and is also an all around nice guy.

LexLuther

06-04-05, 00:26

Boy54,

Thanks. How do I hook up with this AmigoMio? I tried to pm him but the system was unable to locate such a user.

Thanks for the translations.

LexLuther

Army Vato

06-04-05, 11:28

I Live In San Antonio Never Been To Bt Want To Go But Dont Want To Go Alone Im Off Mon- Fri Any One Want To Hook Up And Go Down Under For A Day On A Weekday Let Me Know Ok.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Army Vato

06-09-05, 08:56

So if I do want to go, lets say, to Guadalajara.

I live in San Antonio.

Where do I go to get a permit since I'm an American citizen.

Ojos Grandes

06-09-05, 23:31

Just passing on a little information. The newly appointed Director of Public Security for Nuevo Laredo was shot to death last night as he was leaving his office on Obregon. Here is a link to the story in the Laredo paper today.

http://www.elmanana.com.mx/argosnew/seccion/portada/portada1.aspx

Mic Jagger

06-11-05, 14:41

Just curious why they would assasinate the new police chief when has hasn't shown his intentions yet, it would be like making an 'all in" poker bet without looking at the cards yet.
Fox needs to talk less and act more to get this situation under control. Hell it makes a monger think twice about heading south of the border. Thanks for the update though.

Ojos Grandes

06-11-05, 16:50

So if I do want to go, lets say, to Guadalajara.

I live in San Antonio.

Where do I go to get a permit since I'm an American citizen.How do you plan to get there? All you need is the tourist card, which your airline will provide. If you want to drive you can get the car permit at the consulate which is downtown across the the CPS office. They will provide you with the tourist card.

Big Money

06-12-05, 06:05

I stay out late and drink also, but I solve that problem by staying at a hotel within Boys Town.

Where would be the recommended places to stay overnight in the compound? I've stayed in girls rooms before overnight, and those rooms are usually pretty dingy. I suspect there aren't any hilton hotel rooms in BT.

Blourghus

06-13-05, 00:19

Where would be the recommended places to stay overnight in the compound? I've stayed in girls rooms before overnight, and those rooms are usually pretty dingy. I suspect there aren't any hilton hotel rooms in BT.
There is nothing but girls room available, and almost none have A/C, and all are extremely noisy (at least until 8AM or so). Probably the most upscale is Tres Reyes, which does have A/C (and a TV) but it still a complete dump. Staying within the compound is definitely not for those who need something more than 3rd world living conditions.

Bbond

06-13-05, 01:26

Where would be the recommended places to stay overnight in the compound? I've stayed in girls rooms before overnight, and those rooms are usually pretty dingy. I suspect there aren't any hilton hotel rooms in BT.

Hilton?? Not even Motel 6....but a place to shit, shower, sleep, and change clothes, those rooms worked for me the 2 nights there. Get to sleep 1/2 drunk and wore out from the girls, with a fan blowing air across. And the convienence of pussy hanging around all hours of the day....can't complain.

Chiang Guy

06-14-05, 01:28

Ojos Grandes

06-14-05, 23:54

Hilton?? Not even Motel 6....but a place to shit, shower, sleep, and change clothes, those rooms worked for me the 2 nights there. Get to sleep 1/2 drunk and wore out from the girls, with a fan blowing air across. And the convienence of pussy hanging around all hours of the day....can't complain.I wouldn't recommend any hotel in NL at this time of the year that doesn't have Air conditioning. It is brutally hot and humid right now.

Bbond

06-15-05, 02:35

I had been thinking of making a trip to BT this coming weekend. However with all the news reports of the local police fighting the federals and the army coming in to take over the entire town, I am pretty much scared off. Can anyone from down there tell me what things are actually like on the streets? Is it business as usual or is the city under martial law?

I have inside info that that pickings may be quite slim for a while in BT. The girls are scared too. Look for the action to pick up in other border towns as a result.

eldoble

06-15-05, 20:46

Centro is a ghost town and bars are closing everywhere. 60% of the door girls are gone too. NLBT was dead two weeks ago on saturday night. I mean DEAD.

Ojos Grandes

06-16-05, 02:31

I have inside info that that pickings may be quite slim for a while in BT. The girls are scared too. Look for the action to pick up in other border towns as a result.Actually things may be loosening up a little. The danger would be getting caught in a cross-fire. Wrong place, wrong time. There has been a lot of heavy shit going down in NL for more than a year and I would guess that things are probably going to be a little more tranquilo for a few weeks, at least. This is a cut and paste from an article today. I have no idea how this will effect the situation in BT.

Mexican Agents to Depart Border City By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ, Associated Press Writer

Tue Jun 14,11:09 PM ET

NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico - Soldiers and federal police dispatched to quell an upsurge of violence in this border city will start leaving this week, replaced by local police who were pulled off patrols to undergo questioning and drug screening, officials said Tuesday.

Mexican Army special forces and federal police manned checkpoints surrounding the city and patrolled streets while municipal police officers waited for their guns to be reissued.

Streets were lively, as residents who recently stayed put in their homes ventured out again amid the heavy security. However, Ramon Garza, selling tacos out of the back of his truck, said business was still bad.

He added that he wasn't surprised federal agents would be leaving soon.

"When there are deaths or shootouts, that's when the feds come," he said. "But it would be good if (President Vicente Fox) said they had to stay."

The Mexican government sent in extra forces over the weekend after a group of local officers opened fire on a convoy of federal agents, seriously injuring one. The incident came three days after the city's new police chief was gunned down hours after taking office.

Federal agents "came to bring security and to search for drugs and weapons, but they leave June 16," said Rafael Garcia, the head of the federal Attorney General's office in Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas.

City police were being screened for drug use and questioned for possible links to organized crime and put back on the streets starting Tuesday, Tamaulipas Gov. Eugenio Hernandez said.

Earlier, in Mexico City, Ruben Aguilar, President Vicente Fox's spokesman, said the federal government was expanding to other border cities a program to purge police departments of corrupt officials. He declined to name which cities would be included.

The program was first announced Monday for Nuevo Laredo, where 41 municipal officers are being investigated in the shooting of the federal officer.

Aguilar said of the 250 people tested so far for drugs, he said six were taking cocaine and one was on amphetamines.

Violence has increased all along the border as Mexico's two main drug gangs fight to control smuggling routes. Nuevo Laredo is on the front line of the battle, with more than 60 people killed since January.

Bbond

06-17-05, 14:34

Centro is a ghost town and bars are closing everywhere. 60% of the door girls are gone too. NLBT was dead two weeks ago on saturday night. I mean DEAD.

I was there the Friday the 3rd and Sat 4th, door girls were scarce but some were there, papas and danash were hopping.

Ojos Grandes

06-22-05, 00:50

I was in NL over the weekend. I didn't go to La Zona, but the city itself seemed pretty quiet. It was the 157th anniversary of the founding of NL and there were some events going on in a couple of the parks.

What was noticeable was the absence of local police on the streets. A couple of times we encountered Hummvees with armed soldiers and mounted .50 caliber machine guns crusing around. On Saturday night there was an incident south of the city that had pickups with federales racing along Guerrero with lights flashing and sirens blasting. Never heard what it was about but the Sunday papers had photos of a guy lying shot to death alongside the highway.

I don't think there is any particular danger there for extranjeros, but the city itself seems pretty tense. How this affects La Zona I couldn't say. I wouldn't worry though about going there because this stuff has been going on to one degree or another for several years. It's just now getting a lot more publicity.

Big Money

06-22-05, 05:28

I wouldn't recommend any hotel in NL at this time of the year that doesn't have Air conditioning. It is brutally hot and humid right now.
I usually stay on the US side where there is nice A/C. But I've been looking for a nice place to stay on the Mexico side. I heard there is a Hilton hotel opening up in NL. Not sure where. I did hear that the upscale hotel concierge look out for working girls to avoid making the place a dump.

Ojos Grandes

06-22-05, 13:22

The Hilton has been open for several years and is on Reforma just south of where it intersects with Cesear Lopez de Lara. Within blocks are the two other upscale hotels: the Camino Real and the Fiesta Inn.

There are other places along Cesear Lopez de Lara that are cheaper and closer to La Zona. The City Express on C.de Lara a block from Anahuac is about $60 a night and bringing in girls is no problem. As long as they are reasonably dressed I don't think you will have a problem anywhere, even at the more upscale places.

Blourghus

06-22-05, 18:24

I usually stay on the US side where there is nice A/C. But I've been looking for a nice place to stay on the Mexico side. I heard there is a Hilton hotel opening up in NL. Not sure where. I did hear that the upscale hotel concierge look out for working girls to avoid making the place a dump.
There has been a Hilton for quite some time in NL. It is close to BT, and I have taken girls back from there and have never had a problem. There is also Fiesta Inn right across the street which is a little bit nicer than Hilton, and also a Camino Real which is supposedly very nice, and there is one other very nice one which just opened recently but I forget the name.

Ojos Grandes

06-23-05, 21:52

The Camino Real is very nice--far better than the Hilton. Haven't stayed at the Fiesta, but those are the three nicest accomodations in NL. There is a drive in place just off the junction of the Monterrey highway on the road that goes to the Airport and Piedras Negras. After 8pm you can get a room there for 700 pesos for the night. It is called the Auto Hotel.

BorderJumper

06-24-05, 13:10

Camino real was a nice place. Narcos sprayed it with auto weapons the other evening taking out a rival.

Punter 127

06-24-05, 16:52

Camino real was a nice place. Narcos sprayed it with auto weapons the other evening taking out a rival.
Is this the same place as tres caminos? sounds like thing are really bad in NL.

Punter 127

Ojos Grandes

06-24-05, 22:14

Camino real was a nice place. Narcos sprayed it with auto weapons the other evening taking out a rival.What night was that?? I was there from 6/16--6/19.

Neobes

06-25-05, 17:04

Supposedly they have a new police chief in NL. The guy is either with the Sinaloa Cartel, the Gulf Cartel, or a walking dead man. I thinks it's probably gotten to the point where NL isn't safe for gringos right now because of all the bullets flying. I'm sure BT will suffer from this, as will the hotels on both sides and the merchants. However, this should be a good time to get a hell of a good hotel deal on the Texas side. I saw the manager from the Rio Grande Plaza on the Dallas news the other night saying that they're normally year-round at almost 100% capacity and for the last few weeks they've been at less than 50%. It's a gamble to go down there, but at least it should be super cheap right now.

Bbond

06-26-05, 01:08

Is this the same place as tres caminos? sounds like thing are really bad in NL.

Punter 127

Camino Real Nuevo Laredo
Reforma # 5430

Tres Caminos Motel
Chihuahua # 2450

not the same place..........the shooting was at the Tres Caminos.

eldoble

06-27-05, 19:57

Yep it was Tres Caminos.

Bill Bradsky

06-28-05, 16:06

NL used to be such an easy place to cross the border and have fun from Corpus. Now it sounds like you are risking your life to try to get near boystown. All this from the drugs I guess. What a waste.

Ojos Grandes

06-29-05, 02:09

NL used to be such an easy place to cross the border and have fun from Corpus. Now it sounds like you are risking your life to try to get near boystown. All this from the drugs I guess. What a waste.I don't know how long it has been since you've been the BT but the things that are being reported now have been going on for a couple of years. They are just now starting to get a little publicity. There have been some pretty high profile murders and a couple of shootouts, but unless you happen to be caught in the crossfire there isn't a great deal of risk.

Bill Bradsky

06-30-05, 17:31

Ojos,

Thanks for that info.

Yes, it has been several years since I was in that part of the country and if I was still familiar with the area, I would still go. I have very good memories of the girls of Mexico.

Ojos Grandes

07-01-05, 00:04

If you drive yourself across you need to take basic precautions. Drive defensively, don't drive after drinking, don't drive into barrios off the main roads and after midnight be extra careful.

If you are not driving and taking cabs you won't find anything different than what you have experienced before.

Mic Jagger

07-06-05, 00:16

Made a solo run to the border Saturday and must say that all bodes well for those in search of chicas. Spent the early evening downtown which was packed with people and there was a very visible police presence but overall everything was fine.

This is not a play by play report but rather a summary of the current status of the compound. While normally I drive across the border, this time I took a taxi as a precautionary measure. Arrived at the compound around 9:30 and most clubs were relatively slow. The number of door girls is way down, but the number of club girls seems to be as good a ever. Did a warm up with a room girl, $20. Action really started to pick up around 11:30pm Papas and 123 had a ratio of 3 girls to 1 guy and Papas had some solid 8's and an occassional 9.
I spent most of my time at 123, yeah its kinda of a dive but the woman have a nastier attitude about them that I like. $60 plus room for chica.

Danish is nice but it didn't do it for me, though the girls are fine I don't care for the prices. I'm sure opinions will vary, to each his own.

Impressions: Chicas very willing to negotiate price, I know some have reported a decline in overall numbers but damn how many woman can you do in a night?? Nothing wrong with Boystown its just as enjoyable as it always been. Felt very secure and had no problems walking around the compound. A little slow for some but more than enough for all.

Mic Jagger.

Dr Mier JMC

07-06-05, 04:40

Bad Cops:

Noticed things were much quieter this weekend. Mentioned it to my amigas and they said it was because all the bad cops were locked away. All I know is that I didn't get shaken down when I went driving around the zona during the day.

Hotel Info:

The Tres Caminos, for those that don't know, is owned by the same lady that owns the Papagayo. For my money, I prefer Cesar Palace (01152867-7140868). It's not plush but nice enough, with decent room service and a no questions asked approach to visiting ladies. Also, the AFI (mexican FBI) often stays there so I haven't heard of any shoot outs there.

Where's Everyone Going?

I hear a lot of folks (including chicas) are heading to Acun~a. Even had one of my amigas ask me to take her there to check it out. Maybe I need to check the postings.

Ngp477

07-10-05, 17:39

Was trying to get a flight close to NL but its very expensive to fly into NL.

About how many hours driving from San Antonio? 3?
From Houston? 5?
Corpus Christi is also expensive for a flight, 2 hours drive time?

thanks for the info.

Anyone coming this weekend that would like to meet up and share a ride from the airport, please send me a PM.

Even though I have gone to BT across the border by myself last year and went also with a buddy once last year, it probably would be dumb to go by myself this year.

Thanks.

Ojos Grandes

07-10-05, 20:12

You don't say where you are flying from but probably the cheapest flight and the shortest trip after would be from San Antonio. It is about 2 1/2 hours to Laredo. You need to get Mexican Insurance if you intend on driving a rental car across the border. It's a long drive from Houston to Laredo. You have to go to Mexico City to get a flight to NL.

Neobes

07-12-05, 00:14

http://www.lmtonline.com/news/archive/071005/pagea1.pdf

Check out this story from the Laredo paper. If you live in San Antonio, and I think maybe Houston too, they're gonna start free shuttles to Laredo to try and get some business back there. I wish they were doing this from Dallas!

Bbond

07-12-05, 00:47

When will you be in SA? I'll be passing thru there on Friday, time yet to be determined. I am driving from Dallas to NL.

Was trying to get a flight close to NL but its very expensive to fly into NL.

About how many hours driving from San Antonio? 3?
From Houston? 5?
Corpus Christi is also expensive for a flight, 2 hours drive time?

thanks for the info.

Anyone coming this weekend that would like to meet up and share a ride from the airport, please send me a PM.

Even though I have gone to BT across the border by myself last year and went also with a buddy once last year, it probably would be dumb to go by myself this year.

Thanks.

Fuzz Nutts II

07-26-05, 00:39

i have never been this far down there, but i thought you guys might be interested is this clip from a mexican newspaper i get....
july 22, 2005

nuevo laredo news

cops are "sitting ducks"

another spate of shootings in nuevo laredo this week took the lives of more
local police officers. four city policemen were executed gangland-style in one
24-hour period. characterizing the mood among his officers as "terrorized,"
nuevo laredo police chief omar pimental zuniga called on the mexican federal
government to return weapons to the policemen. mexican soldiers and federal
police occupied nuevo laredo last month, confirep001ing guns and radios from all
400-plus local policemen pending a federal investigation of every single
officer. many local policemen have been accused of working for organized crime,
which is waging a bloody battle for control of nuevo laredo's lucrative drug
export corridor.

some officers contend they are being unfairly tainted with the brush of
corruption. one unidentified policeman compared the situation of his fellow
officers to "sitting ducks at a county fair target stand." escorted by
bodyguards equipped with automatic rifles and bulletproof vests, only police
chief pimental counts on armed protection at the moment. a predecessor was
murdered last month just hours after taking office. the mounting violence
prompted the administration of mexican president vicente fox to declare
operation safe mexico and order army troops and the federal preventive police
into nuevo laredo. but the introduction of federal forces has done nothing to
stop violent crime, which is on the upswing. at least 28 homicides have been
reported in the city since the start of operation safe mexico six weeks ago.

since the beginning of the year, at least 96 people have been murdered in nuevo
laredo, including 15 state and municipal policemen. policemen have been the
frequent target of suspected gangland gunmen in other regions of the
borderlands and mexico as well.

despite the military and police deployment, gangs of heavily armed men are able
to move about the city without problem. dozens of hooded, armed men transported
by five trucks kidnapped 5 men and made off for whereabouts unknown on friday.
according to william slemaker, a spokesman for the parents of american children
kidnapped in mexico organization, more than 400 mexican citizens and 40 u.s.
citizens are missing in nuevo laredo.

nuevo laredo city councilman jorge vinals scored operation safe mexico as a
disaster. "they need to take more aggressive measures against the violence,"
vinals said. "the community lives in terror."

in one of the latest violent episodes, 18-year-old aaron kimber lopez, also
known as "el sapo," or "the toad," was shot point-blank by an assassin while
working on a vehicle at an electrical repair shop on thursday. also on the
same day, the burned body of an unidentified woman was recovered from an empty
lot next to a church in the union del recuerdo neighborhood of nuevo laredo.

Luv Ass

07-26-05, 02:35

Was thinking of braving BT this weekend if anyone would want to go along. PM me if you are going. Sure would feel better to have someone along with the situation as it is.

Been there a few times but its been a while. Staying at the Hilton Friday - Sunday.

Luv Ass

Bbond

07-26-05, 03:22

Will be there from Friday thu Sunday morning....will be staying in BT proper.

Was thinking of braving BT this weekend if anyone would want to go along. PM me if you are going. Sure would feel better to have someone along with the situation as it is.

Been there a few times but its been a while. Staying at the Hilton Friday - Sunday.

Luv Ass

Donorita

07-27-05, 00:08

Congratulations to the stud who beat up a girl at Marabu last Friday because she would not have sex without a condom. You are truely a macho man that we all admire. She is 5'4" and 115 lbs so I'm sure she put up a good fight. She only spent two days in the hospital (try harder next time) and had to borrow money to pay the hospital bill. I have known this girl for over two years and she just started working in Boy's Town because she was desperate and would not accept my help. This is a very sweet and kind girl who you have destroyed. Her name is Fernanda and I think she is still working at Marabu. If any of you decent mongers see her, be nice and help her out if you can. She is only looking for love and now she is truly in the wrong place. I regret that I can no longer be with her because she is a great girl.

Bbond

07-28-05, 00:33

BorderJumper

07-28-05, 02:37

Get info from her, was this guy a gringo or a local? Either case he needs to be hurt badly, and I think we can arrange that, just find out all you can about him.

BBond..
I can guarantee it can be arranged buddy. I have some very good friends at Marabu although the girl in question is not one of them

Post it here or PM me on www.ladiesofnuevolaredo.com We can also post this on that site if you like

Bbond

07-28-05, 03:08

BBond..
I can guarantee it can be arranged buddy. I have some very good friends at Marabu although the girl in question is not one of them

Post it here or PM me on www.ladiesofnuevolaredo.com We can also post this on that site if you like

If we can find some info on the guy, he will not want to show up anywhere I know where he is, or where he can be found. Sure hate to see him fall down and hurt himself.

Also would like to know if this incident happened in BT or an outside location.

Fayce Paynter

07-28-05, 03:24

Wish I could be there to land a few on the bastard when you locate him. Please give him a few extra serious punches, courtesy of me.

Just a thought: How 'bout turning him over to the trannies along the back row and telling them he's their Christmas present?

Feliz Navidad, joto puto!

I'd pay extra to watch that.

BorderJumper

07-28-05, 16:29

Neobes

07-28-05, 18:40

I think everyone here can agree that nobody deserves what is said to have happened to this girl. From the posts I have read here, we are a group that treats the girls in BT and everyone in Mexico for that matter with respect and courtesy. I certainly hope it wasn't a gringo that did this crazy thing, as I'm sure this will have negative fallout for all us gringos in BT. I can't believe after doing this shit that this guy even made it out of the compound? It seems like policia or somebody else would have gotten to him before he could get out? Anyways, I have always treated everyone in Mexico as I wish to be treated, and I would hate to get the shit beat out of me on my next trip to BT because some psychotic gringo has a thing for beating up girls.

Ngp477

07-28-05, 20:48

I have total faith in the Mexican army/police, whomever is in control now, that the bad *****beater will be brought to justice in the American way!

Maybe the who*re promised him bareback and then demanded more money and kept on yapping instead of performing.

Usually men give women 2 warnings before touching them. First the guy says simply, "shut up". Then he says "shut the fu*ck up". Then if the women keeps yapping its fist in mouth.

I have learned to never trust a who*re.

It sounds like only one side of the story was presented and sounds like it was made up. Donarhia is a regular member only, probably a woman with a spanish feminine name, with only 4 posts. Sounds like it was made up to get you guys to get excited.

BTW is the current NL chief of police still living?

Donorita

07-29-05, 02:40

I know this girl very well. We were exclusive to eachother for over two years. Her story is not bulls--t. The reason I have not posted more reports is that I have not been to boys town in a very long time. When I meet her she had only been at Marabu for one week. I was stupid and fell for her (I posted this report over two years ago) and she quickly stopped "working". I regret that she went back to boys town but she was in a bad state of mind after we broke up. I spoke to her today and she said the guy was in his 30's, blonde hair and about 5'10' to 6". She is not very open about what happened and she does not want anyone to know what she does. I also do not think she is still at Marabu but it is possible. I am also sorry about the lame sign on name but it was my nickname for her. I will post pitures of her in the future.

BorderJumper

07-29-05, 18:25

Ngp477

I have total faith in the Mexican army/police, whomever is in control now, that the bad *****beater will be brought to justice in the American way!

We're glad you have faith in them because few people down here do. They are in fear of their lives like all the rest of the Police. They don't have time to worry about happenings at BT. Been out there lately? The Police Station is locked and dark. The only control is the Vigilencias and an occasional drive thru by the Federales or State Police!

Maybe the who*re promised him bareback and then demanded more money and kept on yapping instead of performing.
Does it matter what she promised or did or didn't come across with? THis is inexcusable behavior by any man towards a woman irregardless her profession.

Usually men give women 2 warnings before touching them. First the guy says simply, "shut up". Then he says "shut the fu*ck up". Then if the women keeps yapping its fist in mouth.

"Men", real men don't give a woman any warnings period. They walk away from the confrontation!

I have learned to never trust a who*re.

What's the difference in a woman who sells it in BT and the chica you meet at Soriana and take out for a night on the town and perhaps are allowed a little "stinky finger" at the end.

It sounds like only one side of the story was presented and sounds like it was made up. Donarhia is a regular member only, probably a woman with a spanish feminine name, with only 4 posts. Sounds like it was made up to get you guys to get excited.

I disagree. Made up? For what reason? Apparently Jackson thought it was valid enough to release the post to the board. I don't have a problem with the story. This shit happens!

BTW is the current NL chief of police still living?

Alive and well my friend. Well protected and making a real effort to reform the force down here

Neobes

07-29-05, 23:50

DAMN! Donorita's description sounds like me: 5'10'', dark blond hair, in my 30's. I assure you I am NOT the piece of shit that did this! I would never hit a woman in Mexico or anywhere else in the world. I have always treated the girls in BT as I would any girl I would date in the states - with courtesy and respect, and they have always been kind to me in return. I'll be down there this weekend, but I haven't been there in months. Anyways, if anybody sees me down there, please don't walk up swinging. I would be willing to go to this girl and let her tell anyone interested that she has never seen me, because I have never been in Marabu. I stick to papas and doorgirls exclusively. I was already a little worried about going down with the drug war going on, but now I'm worried that somebody in BT is gonna think I'm this guy and walk up and cold-cock me!

Donorita

07-30-05, 17:27

I certainly hope nobody starts beating up people based on my very limited discription! If I can get more details I will post them. I would hate to be the cause of a innocent person getting "punished".

BorderJumper

07-30-05, 21:33

Neobes..
The drug war will be the furthest thing from your mind when you get here.

It's happening but unless you happen to be in the wrong place at the right time, you would never know anything was amiss.

Enjoy your weekend bro!

Bbond

08-01-05, 04:49

I'll go out there this weekend and ask Jorge (mesero) what he knows about it.

doesn't matter who the girl is are where she works. None of these women deserve this type of treatment from us. And the girls in the Marabu expecially as they tend to be the shy type with low mileage on them.

On Friday night I asked a chica and a mesero for info on this beating, neither one would admit to knowing anything, the chica I spoke with, name escapes me, I was told, by someone that knows BJ, knows BJ's wife.

Donorita

08-02-05, 10:43

I spoke with the girl who was beat up and was told she left BT and went to Cabo. She says she feels much safer there. To bad, she was a great girl.

Sabor

08-05-05, 16:08

Well, I went to visit my old stomping grounds in BT and really nothing has changed. Still the same ol scenerio. I spoke to one of the "parking Attendants" whom I've known for years and he started to explain most of the killings and shootings that went on in the past few months. Basically guys, it's a turf war between the local cops (whom most are arrested or unemployed) and the Federal cops that were flown in from the capital to clean house. In the middle are the drug cartel. What this means to the monger community is "not a damn thing" If you go and mind your buisness and keep your teeth together you'll not notice a thing. NL seems to be the same ol same ol. I had two honey's while I was there and tried to take some pics but no way. The chicas were uncoopertive.

Be safe!

Neobes

08-05-05, 23:35

Went down last weekend, and like BorderJumper said, no problems at all. I actually feel safer to see the city police without their guns. The police station in BT was totally closed and dark, so no potential policia shakedowns for me. The only pain in the ass was that I got caught for about 2 hours on each side of the bridge cause some assholes keep phoning in bomb threats and shutting the bridge down. Other than that, no problems at all. Plenty of bonita chicas still in the compound. Can't remember the name of the chica I spent time with, but about 5'3'', super long curly hair and smoking hot body. One of the "tour guides" on my way out at the taxi stand asked me if I did her in the butt cause that's what's she likes, but I stayed away from the 'ol Hershey highway. She did do a bbbj which kind of freaked me out because I've never done that there, but mucho cervezas convinced me it was a good idea. All in all, I spent 2 hours with her for $100 plus $12 room fee plus $2 for condoms. She had the little Catholic schoolgirl plaid skirt on which drives me crazy. She gave me an inspired performance, and was worth twice the price, so I tipped her $30. Anyways, for any gringos that are fearful from all the bullshit going on down there, just be respectful and stay away from the drogas and you'll be fine. I even had some local guys buy me drinks at El Tarro for a couple of hours. Everybody is suffering financially down there from this drug war, so just make sure to take care of the people in the Mex that take care of you. Damn I love Mexico!

Ernie88

08-09-05, 18:18

Note: Boystown Will Now Close Early

The Laredo newspaper from today (August 9) is reporting that all the bars and businesses will be closing at midnight starting this coming thursday. As far as I know the gates never close at boystown, but they will starting on August 11th. Of course, this is in response to the violence that is occuring.

I imagine many of the girls will either leave NL or they will start working earlier.

Here is a clip of the article.

By MIGUEL TIMOSHENKOV
LAREDO MORNING TIMES

NUEVO LAREDO - Struggling to quell the ceaseless violence in this border city, federal authorities have imposed a midnight curfew effective Thursday on bars, nightclubs and most restaurants - with the complete support of local business owners.

Even the fabled "Zone of Tolerance," where prostitution is legal, will close its gates at midnight.

"We are in solidarity with the proposal that the mayor has made," said José Luis Ortiz Cárdenas, president of the Association of Bars and Cantinas. "Reducing hours will benefit us because we will be able to curtail expenses at a time when the tourist presence has been devastated."

The curfew will continue for at least 30 days.

Ortiz Cárdenas said the chaos caused by the violence has caused the economy to be turned upside down, and order must be restored.

Martha Cuéllar, representing the businesses that operate in the Zone of Tolerance, said what's most important is that city life return to normal, for the sake of all the people, residents and visitors alike

Carne

08-09-05, 19:04

Midnight curfew set for businesses (Nuevo Laredo, Mexico)

LAREDO MORNING TIMES
08/09/05
MIGUEL TIMOSHENKOV

NUEVO LAREDO - Struggling to quell the ceaseless violence in this border city, federal authorities have imposed a midnight curfew effective Thursday on bars, nightclubs and most restaurants - with the complete support of local business owners.

Even the fabled "Zone of Tolerance," where prostitution is legal, will close its gates at midnight.

Link for full story:

http://www.lmtonline.com/news/s4.htm

TX Horn

08-11-05, 20:19

I've had a trip planned to the Laredo area for over a month and planned on visiting both NL and Piedras. With the curfew in NL, does anyone have any suggestions on picking up ladies or semipros outside of the zona? I plan on spending one night in both locations to sample the women. I just don't want to make the drive up to NL if you don't think it'll be worth the trip. I think the curfew might help drive the prices down in NL and maybe up in Piedras. How can I capitalize on the curfew?

Horn

BorderJumper

08-16-05, 01:57

Texas Horn;

You're asking the question that is on everyones mind right now and no body seems to have an answer for it.

Last weekend, we had about a 95% compliance rate with the curfew. BT closed at midnight but the room girls were all out and about. They did not chain the entrance as had been expected. Only difference was no booze after midnight.

The city is quiet except for occasional outbursts of violence. the people being killed are targeted and it is a foregone conclusion that if the Narcos want you dead, you're dead!

It isn't affecting the mongers to BT or the tourists to Centro.

The people rescued here a while back and then arrested by the Mexican Police were found to all have some type of connection to the drug trade there. Be it they were neighborhood dealers or family members of dealers who had crossed th bosses. One guy was found to be wanted for murder in Laredo Texas. Kinda blows away the families pleadings that their sons and daughters would never be involved with drugs.

TX Horn, come on down. The curfew is supposed to run for 30 days but most people don't think it will last but a couple of weeks. The ones ignoring the curfew are not being punished because they have not violated any liquor laws.

As far as the prices are concerned, don't expect any difference but be pleasantly surprised if you save a few bucks. Mexicans do not look at Economics 101 as we learned them. Their solution to a frop in business or a bad economy is to raise prices instead fo lowering them. The thinking is they are not going to lose any of their bottom line for anything but of course, they lose that much more business.

Some of the girls are bailing but they will be back eventually. This might be a good time to catch a TLN for a good rate if you stick to the second tier girls. Sometimes a jewel can be found amongst the bunch.

You might find more information on the subject at http://www.ladiesofnuevolaredo.com

Bbond

08-16-05, 02:21

I was there from Thursday night till Sunday noon, I had a room in the compound. Stayed there 3 nights. Door girls were scarce after midnight, and the building where I stayed locked the outside gates at midnight, the manager saying she would be fined if she did not lock up. A couple door girls were in the same building, and they were locked in at midnight too.
Papas ssemed almost normal right up till midnight closing, wierd being throw from there at that time.
Some girls went to Acuña, I was told.

TX Horn

08-16-05, 14:28

BorderJumper,

Thanks for the reply. I'll be there on the 26th-28th.

Does anyone have any information on the massage ads that can be found in the El Manana newspaper. I figured I'd try those in the early evening hours.

TX Horn

Ernie88

08-20-05, 23:11

I went by the compound during the week. I met up with Adriana. She gave the usual A+++ service. The significance was my conversation I had with her. She said that the closing at midnight requirement has cut her business by over half. She said that if business did not pick up by this weekend, she would leave.

I don't know if this is true or not, but Adriana has been around for several years, and if she is thinking about leaving, you know it is bad. The good part about business being slow is that there is plenty of girls to pick from, and they seen as eager as ever to please!!! I know there is a report about prices going up to make up for the lack of business, I don't know if this is true or not, but the need to be willing to please factor seems to be up!

Night Prowler

08-22-05, 18:03

Hello,

I was reading the board and I am very upset about what has been happening in Boystown. I posted a reply to my last visit back in 10/04 I normally go then, and always give you good feedback. Details. I am a little scared now to go. Tis guy they decribe sounds a little like me, but vauge. I have highlighted blonde hair, but have not been there since 10/04. If I go, I hope they don't pick me out and say blonde guy! He's dead! I have always had a good time there, always use a condom! man hate to play with my life that way. I guess I would like to know what has been going on and if the curfew is still in effect. If I go again, I always come back with good detailed info . Hate to see this happening. Anyone know of a good hotel right on the boarder. I normally stay outside of Mexica, and walk over. If the curfew is set, I will have to get there during the day.

You all be safe!

NP

Sigue

08-22-05, 23:17

...but, speaking of Adriana, look what happened across the street from her on Sunday night:

Ejecutan a dos hombres en Nuevo Laredo

Suman 117 asesinatos violentos en el lugar en lo que va del año; agreden hombres encapuchados a cuatro personas que estaban en un puesto de tacos en la zona de tolerancia

Roberto Aguilar Grimaldo/Corresponsal
El Universal online
Cd. Victoria, Tamps.
Lunes 22 de agosto de 2005

12:37 Dos hombres murieron y dos mujeres resultaron heridas la madrugada de hoy en la ciudad de Nuevo Laredo, después de que fueron baleados con armas AK 47, por personas que vestían ropa camuflajeada y portaban capuchas.

La Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) informó que aproximadamente a la 01:00 horas, un grupo de personas llegaron frente al bar Las Vegas, que se encuentra en la zona de tolerancia de Nuevo Laredo, y dispararon contra las personas que se encontraban en un carretón de tacos.

Al realizar la investigación, los testigos señalaron que fueron trasladados dos hombres y dos mujeres a la Clínica de Especialidades y al Hospital General.

Fuentes de la PGJE reportaron que a la 01:30 horas, el agente cuarto del Ministerio Público acudió a la Clínica de Especialidades en donde falleció Enrique Valdez Tapia, de aproximadamente 38 años; y a las 02:00 horas murió en el Hospital General otro ****** que aún no había sido identificado. Ambos habían resultado heridos baleados con las mujeres en la zona de tolerancia.

También en el Hospital General estaban hospitalizadas Alicia González Sánchez, de 26 años de edad, y Flora Estela Guiñón López, de 24. Ninguna había podido declarar en torno a los hechos debido a que habían sido intervenidas quirúrgicamente.

Afuera del bar Las Vegas el personal de Servicios Periciales encontró 11 casquillos percutidos calibre 7.62 x 39.

Agentes de la Policía Ministerial del Estado (PME) poblaron con Juan Miguel Flores, quien se identificó como dueño del puesto de tacos donde ocurrió la agresión, señalándoles que cuando escuchó los disparos él se tiró al suelo.

Mencionó que cuando se levantó vio que su amigo y socio, Enrique Valdez Tapia, estaba malherido, lo subió a su vehículo y lo llevó a recibir atención médica.

Con este doble homicidio, el número de asesinatos violentos en Nuevo Laredo llegó a 117 en lo que va del año.

Night Prowler

08-22-05, 23:32

Can you type it in English.

Thanks

Bbond

08-23-05, 04:13

Can you type it in English.

Thanks

Basically what it says is:

Two men executed in NL. Shot with rifles, like AK-47's, in boystown, near the Las Vegas Bar at about 12:37am. One was a hot dog vendor. Two girls were also shot and wounded. This brings the number of killed in NL this year to 117.

Dr Mier JMC

08-24-05, 02:34

The good part about business being slow is that there is plenty of girls to pick from, and they seen as eager as ever to please!!! I know there is a report about prices going up to make up for the lack of business, I don't know if this is true or not, but the need to be willing to please factor seems to be up!

You got that right! I haven't been to the Zona in awhile because I have phone numbers and just order in. No prices have gone up but the service definitely has. Before, the chicas would try to work at Papas for several hours before coming out to see me. Now, they rush over bright and early and stay until the morning. I even get an occasional $20 discount. I guess they figure I'm the only guy brave enough (or stupid enough) to visit them and since the pickin's are slim and girls are plentiful, they have to treat me nice.

As for the midnight curfew, I hear that it's being or may already be lifted.

Dr Mier JMC

Bbond

08-25-05, 11:34

Bbond

08-26-05, 06:46

Bbond

08-29-05, 01:34

I actually called Martha's, the donkey show place, in NLBT. They have to only number listed by any BT club.
They told me CLOSED this weekend at midnight. That could change with a sudden announcement, I suppose, but I doubt it.
Saturday Papas was open til 1:00 and other places until 2, but had a line of customers to get in.
Curfew is supposed to be lifted Monday....

Dr Mier JMC

09-07-05, 03:29

Dr Mier,

If you have some phone numbers, please make a call and confirm if the NLBT bars intend to stay open normal hours this comming weekend. There is so much speculation, get the inside from one who works there. Please.

I believe they will open normally Labor Day weekend, but some speculate they will stay open this weekend also.Actually, I do have a number many might find useful. The phone number for Papagayos is 01152867-7140646. I have been told that starting this weekend PG's stays open until 4am. Anyone is welcome to call and verify.

Ernie88

09-07-05, 05:20

Bbond

09-08-05, 01:35

Actually, I do have a number many might find useful. The phone number for Papagayos is 01152867-7140646. I have been told that starting this weekend PG's stays open until 4am. Anyone is welcome to call and verify.

Papas and several other bars were opened until 4am, last weekend, exception was 1-2-3, never opened at all.

Bbond

09-08-05, 01:49

Passed by the compound. Everywhere where For Rent signs. Many of the girls have packed up and left. Fewest women I have ever seen.

Also, as you go into the compound, the cars are being searched. The search is more complete than when you pass through customs. I saw a group of gringos coming in a SUV, and they looked like good ol' boys, and they were getting checked by the Feds to the point where they were all taken out of the car. If you are taking your vehicle, make sure to not have ANY AMMO or a weapon. One shell of ammo will get you some Mexican jail time, No Fooling. Also, make sure you have proper documentation on the car and proper ID for yourself License / Registration / Insurance). I did notice that the Taxi drivers were not having to go through inspection, so this is likely the way to go to avoid problems.

The Fed Agent asked several questions over and over again, including why I was going into the compound. Uh, I think we all know why we are at the compound. Anyway, although I kept my composure and in general the fed was being firm but fair, I believe all the inspection was intended for was to scare people away from this area. But I do believe the inspection will make the compound safer. If you are a hot head type, you may want to avoid the compound, as the questions will likely bother you especially if you don't have proper documents or if you just don't know spanish. Take a cab!

About the women, again, I believe that the prices seem to be about the same and that the service is better as there is no rush since there isn't that much business anyway.

Fewest door girls?? Well sort of slim pickings right now, but last weekend showed some promise. Saw several new ones, at least new to me.

Business is still slow in the bars, Papas girls hustle more now, they have to, to make any money. Prices seem a little flexible, but not much, their economics are still 3rd world, business down raise prices (to make more money) instead of business down drop prices (to generate more business), you know one which works best, they don't seem to. Some girls still have set prices, pay or they don't go with you, others more open to negotiation.

Danash had less girls than usual too, but at least they were open.
Pullman seemed hopping at times too.
I don't visit the others.

Cwaynec

09-08-05, 22:03

Sigue

09-09-05, 03:58

Thanks for the current updates all. Haven't been to BT since New Years and, to be honest, still a bit wary of the goings on.

In light of the economics and for sake of comparison, please comment or update on pricing:

Papas - 7 to 7.5 chica $70.00 plus room
Marabu - 7 chica, nice GFE $60.00 plus room
Tamyko - 8; great store-bought rack; wanted $90.00 but by this time I was pretty hammered and broke so busted the nut and threw about $30.00 on the bed and left; no problem she just laughed.
Door girls - $20.00 to $40.00 for the full spectrum; didn't try only shopped.

Should things stay pretty much the same, I'll be back weekend after this.

I've also been away since January. I generally agree with which you say except:

I'd shave a bit off your prices;

At Papas, your $$ usually gets you about 45+ minutes (my experience anyway);

The Tamyko girls are pretty rugged, average 5.5 at best, plus aggressive and the establishment holds you to 30 minutes.

For $40 you should be seeing the door girl for close to an hour and getting a noncadaverous performance.

Of course, I haven't been around so things may have changed.

Bbond

09-09-05, 16:00

For $40 you should be seeing the door girl for close to an hour and getting a noncadaverous performance.

No, those girls are now asking $20 for 15 mins, add $10 for nude and $10-$20 for oral, all in 15 mins. Quite a contrast to just a couple years ago.

Bbond

09-11-05, 06:20

Was in NLBT Friday (9/9) night, only briefly, bars still closing at 4am, supposed to be open normally next weekend. Very few customers, mostly locals too, in Papas, the only place I had time to visit.

Ernie88

09-11-05, 21:05

I went by a week ago and my car got checked as I went in and the federales gave me a hard time.

Can anyone comment if this is still happening.

Bbond

09-12-05, 01:11

I went by a week ago and my car got checked as I went in and the federales gave me a hard time.

Can anyone comment if this is still happening.

It was Friday night, 9/9.

Wchb712

09-15-05, 07:02

Anyone care to join me - split the gas? Heading in from Houston. Leaving on Saturday about 3:00pm. Been a year since I last came. Anyone know the current prices for hotels on the Mexican side?

Thanks

Chrisser

09-17-05, 03:31

Hi Guys,

I just drove back to the east coast from Laredo, next time I am going to fly. I had 2 weeks off and I also saw a buddy in Dallas for 2 days, it's definitely a different type of hot than I am used to.

Now to the business, I had fun at BT for the first few days. My translator Ramon (at BT) kept things on the straight and narrow -- moreless the sisi's away. I did have 1 bad experience with a woman walking around, she hugged me and then I felt this hand reach into my pocket. You guys might know of her, the nights I was their she wore a red shirt tied up to show her belly (Puta). The door girls were good so I did have a few of them, the only problems I had was to concentrate when I am looking around that dingy room and also some of the girls had the C-scar (turnoff), but I guess I can't complain when it is only 20-30 bucks.

Then I decide to try the downtown bars (The shoe, El Rey & the 1 that goes downstairs. I mainly stayed at the shoe, I know that you pay a little more for these girls than at BT, but I have a better time. I met Alesandra the 1st day and stayed with her for a few days, I met her familia both days and hung out. I saw her house, but just at night outside in the front yard where her family seemed to congregate because of no air condition. Let me ask you this guys, I know that they are working in bars to make money for their family, but has anybody else felt compelled to help out the ladies situation. There were 10 people in looked what to be about a 2 bedroom house, I know that a few of them were sleeping in the family room. Now she has called me since I have been home, she was upset because her daughter was at the hospital today and that it would cost $300 american dollars. I also went to the carnival that is going on now and paid for Ales, daughter, 3 cousins, 1 friend and 1 friend with a kid. Is this common to have that many people go and take advantage of the mula from the americano?

I did have fun with a few other ladies at the shoe the night before I left. I actually like different experiences so I picked up the pregnant lady their and had a little fun. I also tried to post a few pics and have the response of post request from foreign hosts are not allowed.

I'll try to get them posted sometime, I can't wait to go back!

Bbond

09-17-05, 11:23

CHRISSER.....

That Puta that tried to pick your pocket was a dude, (TS/TV) a lot of those there and a they are very brave.

By the "shoe" I am assuming you mean the Horseshoe or Herradura Bar, and the bar that you go downstairs into is the Montera.

Don't send any money to that girl or her family, they think they have a sucker and if you send money the requests will continue.

Chrisser

09-20-05, 20:38

Hi guys,

I will be coming back out there in about a month, I was wondering if anybody knows of any good massge parlors their. Please Pm me or share on the board.

Thanks

Joe Driver

09-22-05, 14:47

I plan on heading out to boystown every Tues, or Wed evening, to conduct my search for video babes. (Those are babes willing to make a fuck video.) If any mongers would like to meet me out there, let me know. I might fuck a few of the babes, while I'm conducting my search.

Bbond

09-24-05, 05:18

Hi guys,

I will be coming back out there in about a month, I was wondering if anybody knows of any good massge parlors their. Please Pm me or share on the board.

Thanks

Check here.......http://www.elmanana.com.mx/argosnew/servicios/pages/08.htm

If you need some translation help, let us know.

Good, bad, costs, etc, I have no idea, with NLBT there, just no need for MP's.

Chrisser

09-24-05, 20:08

Hi BBond,

I appreciate the help, I do need more though for the translation to find out where a few are at. It's weird I liked BT for about 10 minutes, I just can't concentrate in that place.

Thanks

Bbond

09-24-05, 21:42

"Masajes Kyara" masajes para caballero, servicio las 24 hrs, satisffacion garantizada, chicas nuevas, servicio Larerdo Texas. 044-867 104-68-28, Id 301748*1.

Massages Kyara, massages for men, 24 hour service, satisfaction gauranteed, new girls, service to Laredo TX also. (no address given, I assume outcall only).

The others are essentially the same....

Only one with an address is:

Masaje V.I.P. para caballeros, Bravo 9021, Col. La Joya. Servicio Domicilio. 24hrs. Satisfacción garantizada.
Massages V.I.P. for men, Outcall also. Satisfaction Gauranteed.
9021 Bravo, Colony La Joya.

Chrisser

09-25-05, 02:17

Hey Man,

Thanks, I guess there isn't much action for them since they have BT and the downtown clubs.

Thanks again

Joe Driver

09-26-05, 19:13

I tried calling the various massage services about 6 months ago, which are advertised in the El Manana. One was Playboy massage. I was told that the service was $100 per hour, anything goes. I was also told they could provide, "any age I wanted." I told them I wanted to make a video, and try to sell it to a distributor, and this request threw them for a loop, so to speak. They thought about it for awhile, and then came back and said I would have to pay $2500 per hour for that. Uhmmm, if any mongers here would like to pick up that tab for me, please let me know, and I can begin shooting immediately. $2500 per hour? Shit.

Neobes

10-02-05, 05:32

Does anybody know the current situation in NL regarding the curfew? Has it been lifted for El Centro and La Zona yet?

Thanks for any feedback.

Neobes

Thumperr

10-03-05, 02:24

Does anybody know the current situation in NL regarding the curfew? Has it been lifted for El Centro and La Zona yet?

Thanks for any feedback.

NeobesReally. A good, up to date ride report would be greatly appreciated! I'll be in SAT at the end ofthe month, and I'm ready to roll.

Frankly all the news has me jittery. Not that I think I'm gonna get plugged by some Federale, but that I might not get to plug a treat on my own.

Bbond

10-03-05, 02:58

Does anybody know the current situation in NL regarding the curfew? Has it been lifted for El Centro and La Zona yet?
Thanks for any feedback.
Neobes

Just about as good as it ever was, close anyway....curfew is gone, BT is guarded by Federal Polica (not local crooks).
If anyone want's a link to a GREAT site, NL is our specialty, PM me and I'll send you the URL.

This was posted, on another site, buy a good friend of mine.......

I was there last Friday and it was probably the best night all year .. tons of tons of hot girls, many new girls, especially at Danash
It is very safe right now, as Federal police are running the compound, much safer than when the municipal police were there.

Blksnake

10-04-05, 03:17

Was there last night, curfew has been lifted. Prices are about the same $15-40 for door girls. The later you stay the cheaper the prices.

Blksnake

10-04-05, 03:21

It seams that the girls are coming back at the curfew has been lifted. Many young ladies compared to before the curfew. Not to many tourist. More fun for me.

Joe Driver

10-08-05, 19:52

The NL police robbed me of $50. Beware. Below is copy of post from another group.

I added translations, not exact word for word, but the idea is intact.....people there are as tired, of us being hassled by the police, as we are.
I guess it was ok with them, until it starts hurting their business, now they are up in arms about it.
Despojan policías a turistas
Por MAURICIO BELLOC
El Mañana de Nuevo Laredo

Los dueños de bares y restaurantes del centro, acudieron a presidencia municipal para quejarse contra los policías municipales de quienes se dijeron cansados, ya que con sus extorsiones ahuyentan al turismo estadounidenses y al cliente local, así como al paisano y al visitante nacional.
The owners of bars and restaurants of the centro district went to municipal presidency to complain about the municipal police, saying they were tired of the extorsions against American tourists, local clients and national visitors, because it was driving away tourism.
Un grupo de más de quince propietarios de restaurantes, bares, centros nocturnos y cantinas se presentaron ante el secretario particular del Alcalde, José Luis Moreno y el secretario del Ayuntamiento Eusebio Sanmiguel Salinas, para presentar su queja contra los preventivos.
Encabezados por sus directivos José Luis Ortiz Cárdenas y René Molano Moreno, manifestaron que de plano los clientes se han retirado en masa de los comercios del centro histórico.
A group of more the 15 owners of the restaurants, bars, and night clubs went before the authorities to make their complaint against the police, saying that many clients have stayed away, in mass, from the centro businesses.

800 DÓLARES POR PATRULLA
$800 for each patrol officer.
"La clientela ya no quiere regresar a nuestros negocios. Están acabando con el poco turismo y el escaso movimiento económico", dijo Ortiz Cárdenas.
Molano Moreno comentó que no sólo son los dueños de bares y restaurantes, sino todos los ramos de la economía del primer cuadro de la Ciudad, los que resienten las tropelías de los policías.
"Extorsionan a todo el que anda en el centro, máxime al turista extranjero y la prueba de ello es que los policías -sobretodo los del turno de la tarde, noche y madrugada- acuden a diario a las casas de divisas a cambiar entre 300 y 800 dólares a pesos. Eso es por noche", aseguró Ortiz Cárdenas.
El secretario del Ayuntamiento envió a los quejosos con Omar Pimentel Zúñiga, director municipal de Seguridad Pública, para que le entregasen los informes y las denuncias.
"Entran a los negocios y sacan a los clientes y los esquilman, fabricándoles cualquier ilícito. Además se hacen pasar por polifiscales con los paisanos y hasta por agentes viales con los automovilistas. Nadie se les escapa", dijo René Molano vicepresidente de la Canaco.
Our clients no longer return to our businesses. We are being done in by little tourism and the economic movement.
They said the not just the bar and restaurant owners, but all of the first block of the city suffer from the outrageous actions of the police.
The extortions affect everyone in the downtown area, especially the foreign tourist, and the proof that it is the police - all those of the afternoon , night, and morning shifts go to the currency houses to change between 300 and 800 dollars to pesos. That is per night.
They enter our businesses and remove clients and acuse them of fabricated crimes. They have even resorted to stopping automobiles, nobody escapes.

Sigue

10-13-05, 05:01

The NL police robbed me of $50. Beware. ...

Very sorry to hear it. Can you give some details, like when, where, and who?

Thanks!
--Sigue

Joe Driver

10-13-05, 06:12

Very sorry to hear it. Can you give some details, like when, where, and who?

Thanks!
--Sigue
I was robbed by Nuevo Laredo police about 6 years ago. I was walking down the sidewalk heading towards the Horseshoe Bar, when these Nuevo Laredo cops spotted me, a white gringo, walking down the sidewalk. They rounded the block, and drove up to me, and ordered me to get into their car. I did. They drove me out to the middle of nowhere, so that there would be no witnesses, and they told me to give them $50, or they would take me to jail, and that "I would have lots of problems." I gave these crooked Nuevo Laredo police bastards $50, and they drove me back to where they picked me up, and dropped me off. They were very relaxed about this. I could tell they had done this many times before. I view this as part of "paying your taxes" so to speak, when you go to Mex. I still go to Mex, but it's risky dealing with their crooked police bastards. It's just part of Mex. That's how I view it.

Thumperr

10-15-05, 05:44

Hi guys,

I will be coming back out there in about a month, I was wondering if anybody knows of any good massge parlors their. Please Pm me or share on the board.

ThanksWhen are you headin down? I'll be driving down from SA Saturday afternoon 10/29, going back the next day. Got a room on this side of the border.

BabyHuey

10-15-05, 05:54

Help, I need some help from some of you guys that are Reynosa regulars, or are at least familiar with the town. Me and some guys from another site are heading down next Friday the 21st (all on this site are welcome to go also), and most of yall already know about this trip from the other site anyway.

Anyway, I am looking for some info about good restaurants close to the border to meet at, and also hotel info, as I don't recall havind read anything recently about where to stay in Reynosa, or maybe I just can't read.

Thanks for any info you can provide, and I am also willing to share info and answer any questions about Nuevo Laredo, I will also be heading to NLBT on Saturday and Sunday nights if anybody is up for a NLBT trip, just shout and we cxan meet up in NL.

BH

Chrisser

10-16-05, 00:53

Hey Thump,

I was planning on coming down soon but have too much work before the winter hits over here-- MD (finish up outside decks), thats my main job. I will try to get down there in the near future, I sure do miss it-chicas.

I'll let you know and maybe we can go down together.

Thumperr

10-17-05, 03:24

One of the biggest changes I noted in my post last week on trip to Tijuana was the very sharp decline in the amount of LE. A typical night in Tijuana saw the brown uniform, the blue pants with red stripe uniform, the plainclothes and the soldiers with assault rifles. Saturday night I saw 3 cops and they were just cruising.

During my last trip to Boys town I couldn't leave during a shut down that involved dozens of soldiers ( lousy position, lousy discipline, lousy deployment). Recent posts speak of all the other crap going on.

With curfew lifting, ae you seeing a decline in LE?

And since I'm shootin off questions, am I better with pesos like TJ or stick with dollars. What does the typical $10 taxi ride from the border come out as in pesos? A straight 100? That would be a bargain.

Bbond

10-17-05, 11:33

........During my last trip to Boys town I couldn't leave during a shut down that involved dozens of soldiers ( lousy position, lousy discipline, lousy deployment). Recent posts speak of all the other crap going on.

With curfew lifting, ae you seeing a decline in LE?

And since I'm shootin off questions, am I better with pesos like TJ or stick with dollars. What does the typical $10 taxi ride from the border come out as in pesos? A straight 100? That would be a bargain.

Post curfew, NLBT is now guarded by federal troups, don't know for how long it will be like this, but for now it is.

Pesos are better of course, when the exchange rate is over 10:1, most will accept the 10:1 rate, but always ask first. If quoted $10, ask if 100 pesos is cool, tell them it's all you have. Since $10 is a rip off anyway, 100 pesos will usually work. At 10.8:1, 100 pesos is like $9.25.

Blourghus

10-17-05, 23:57

Of the literally hundreds of transactions I've been involved in over the past couple of years in NL which were quoted in dollars, I've been denied the 10:1 rate only ONCE - and that was by a taxista (and I've only taken maybe 4 cab rides in that time since I virtually always drive). He quoted 10 dollars, and wanted 120 pesos. This was back when the actual rate was around 11.50.

Other than taxis (when you negotiate prior to entering the taxi) I would recommend NOT asking but simply handing them the money - by asking you are highlighting the fact that you are getting a deal and giving them a chance to reject. If you simply hand them the money they won't make a big deal about it. Back when the rate was 11.50, no girl ever blinked when I paid 10:1, even for $100 transactions at Danash where it made a real difference. Once in a blue moon, a girl will quote a different price up front. At all the clubs in NL for things such as drinks and room fees, the rate is always 10:1, versus in Tijuana where it is closer to the actual rate. So you should ALWAYS pay in pesos.

Bbond

10-18-05, 00:46

In cabs, I always ask first, how much. Knowing full well it will be $10 to BT. If I have pesos, which is usually, I counter with "¿cien pesos?. Normally they say ok, once a guy said 110. Put a 500 and a 100 note in your pocket, tell him it's all you have. Then pay with a 500 peso note, make the bastard change it. If he can't then he'll have to take the 100.

Super Gato

10-18-05, 02:55

I was there on Friday night. Federal cops were at the gate searching private cars with Mex and Tex plates. Cabs were waved through. A lot more girls and customers than when I went a month or so ago. Both the cab driver and some of the girls I spoke with said that NL is much safer now. On the trips through town I'd see mini-convoys of military/cops with jeeps with machine guns mounted on them and all of the soldiers with big guns. There was some sort of checkpoint or something on Lopez de Laura when I was heading toward BT stopping cars in the opposite direction. It was gone by the time I headed back to the bridge.

Thumperr

10-20-05, 01:33

Great stuff guys! This is exactly why this board is so great. I'll be down next Saturday night, can't wait!

Any recommendations on the best place to buy a vitamin V 100 when you cross over? I tried a Cialis 20 in TJ last month and was very dissatisfied. Paid $13.50 for it. Location, price advise would be greatly appreciated. Also, there is a trememndous hassle with cops shaking down guys looking for pills when they are crossing back into So Cal. Anything like that happening here?

And lastly, since I seem to be squeezing out tons of great advice from everyone, best place to change $$$.

Neobes

10-20-05, 03:05

Thumper,

Are you talking about Cali cops or Mexi cops shaking people down looking for the pills?

Joe Driver

10-20-05, 03:28

Any recommendations on the best place to buy a vitamin V 100 when you cross over? I tried a Cialis 20 in TJ last month and was very dissatisfied. Paid $13.50 for it. Location, price advise would be greatly appreciated. Also, there is a trememndous hassle with cops shaking down guys looking for pills when they are crossing back into So Cal. Anything like that happening here?

And lastly, since I seem to be squeezing out tons of great advice from everyone, best place to change $$$.
Once you walk across bridge #1, I would imagine most of the pharmacies in that area, on the NL side, would sell viagra. Probably around 8 to 10 bucks per tab. That's a guess on my part.
On being hassled by the NL police, if you're caught with a viagra pill on you, they seem to make up the rules, as they try to extort money out of you. When they robbed me of $50, I had a couple of condoms in my pocket. They told me that was a "crime" to have condoms in my pocket. Like I say, they make up the rules as they go. If you're wearing blue jeans when they stop you, they may tell you wearing blue jeans is a crime. Pay up, or you go to jail.

There are lots of places to change money to pesos. Try to have fun in BT. I'm going to check it out myself, in a couple of weeks. And yes, I'll have some condoms in my pocket. I guess I'm just a "hardened criminal."

Thumperr

10-21-05, 01:16

The TJ cops stop you as the taxis let you off on the way back to the border. they changed the traffic flow a while back, and this makes it very conducive to shakedowns.

As mentioned, I getto BT about 2 or 3 times a year, although it has been almost a year since my last trip down. Hopefully some of you will be around next Saturday night.

Cwaynec

10-23-05, 21:51

made speed run to bt saturday evening. business looked pretty slow; plenty of options and low amount of customers. policia presence very visible but all in all things were very low key and cool.

i saw a fr that stated they were searching private vehicles from us and mexico upon entry. this is cursory at best; i pulled up and policia shone flashlight into interior of my vehicle for about 3 seconds and then sent me on my way. a little note for those of you that do drive; the right lane you turn onto from anuhuac st. to get to the gate is blocked off for construction. i had to detour through an empty lot and, based upon the traffic using this route, i would say that in a week or less this route will not be usable for all the potholes and the ridge you have to climb over to get on the main street. you might know the town a bit better than i do but i will use taxis until i see construction is completed or the road is no longer blocked.

i trolled through once and saw little door activity and very few chicas beckoning customers to come inside the bars. several young ones outside danash but nothing that appealing. ended up with an older (30ish) one in marabu; great gfe w/dfk, bbbj, and offer for barebacking (which i didn't take her up on; i was living on the edge enough by driving). 40 minutes in the room, 1 shot, nice massage after, and on my way. total damages for fs ($50.00), drinks (3 rounds with tequila shooters for both - $30.00), and a $10.00 tip for the chica. rest of night spent drinking and talking world series with other mongers. too tired to spend anything else so left around 1:30.

Thumperr

11-01-05, 02:03

Ran down to BT on Saturday night. WOW! What a difference a few months makes.

When I got to the bridge, I thought it was election day again. At 9PM almost empty on both sides of the border. Waited a while to see if I could find a fellow monger to split the $10, but after 20 minutes gave up.

Entering the compound was no line, and Papa's parking lot had 4 cars - at almost 10PM on a Saturday night!

Smallest percentage of gringos I've ever seen on a weekend. Selection was average, prices on the high side for initial offering, dropping fast after - not interested? then make nothing tonight. About 11:30 the army entered and did a room to room sweep of the door girls rooms, something I had never seen before.

Bottom line - TJ is so the number 1 now, it's not even funny.

Only thing going for NL now is the cheap liquor, proximity to the parking and that you can cross with 4 bottles versus 1 for California.

Zenactive

11-01-05, 15:14

Joe Driver

11-02-05, 11:51

Please, please... if you have bad experience with NL police, write down licence plate... remember name on the badge or ask people around who witnesses police harassment about the names (they know them), and report to NL police or post it in this chat room and I'll report.

Attitude "pay and forget" hurt us all.

NL is trying to stop it, but need our help.
Zenactive, if the police see you writing down their licence plate number, or looking at their badge, what's to keep them from putting you in their car, driving you out in the middle of nowhere, and then beating the shit out of you, and claiming you assaulted them first? It would be your word, vs their word. I wouldn't place any bets you would come out on top, in that situation. You might end of in jail, minus a few teeth, and charge with assaulting a police officer. Witnesses? Again, if they drive you out in the middle of nowhere, like they did me, and then rob you, like they did me, you would have no witnesses. I'll phrase it to you, like the crooked NL cops phrased it to me, when they robbed me. "You can give them $50, and they will drive you back to where they picked you up, and you will have no problems. If you don't give them $50, they will take you to jail, and you will have lots of problems." Now I wonder what they meant by ,"lots of problems"? I think they meant they were going to file a lot of false charges against me, if I didn't give them $50. It would have been my word, vs. theirs. Who do you think would have come out on top, had I taken them up on that? I doubt it would have been me. The NL police can fuck you over, bigtime, and they know it. It will be your word, vs. theirs. If they think you might report them, I don't want to think what they might do to you. Anything they want, and they know it. Your ass is theirs, if they think you're going to report them.

Zenactive

11-02-05, 23:08

Yes Joe,

I know, and I don't mean to tell policeman that you're going to report him. What I want you to do to post it here or report to the police. Right now there is opportunity, because they are cleaning police department and police is being fired every day.

By all means, don't try to fight them. Pay your $50, but try to remember plates, numbers names and time.

Zenactive

11-03-05, 02:23

BT is definitely preffered place to lay down in NL. Bars Herradura and Montera just at the border are definitely underestimated. When I started visiting NL my route was always straight to BT. Recently however I found a lot of fun in bars. (Maybe I'm getting older?)

Whatever it is, I have limited (4 - 5) number of girls that I'm constantly playing. It makes me comfortable when waiter/waitress remember that I'm drinking only Modelo (I'm suspicious about Corona, especially in Herradura - always open and instant headache after drinking)

OK, lets talk about major subject. Girls and service. At least minimum Spanish is a must. It's not that difficult if I can communicate. It took for me 3 years regular visits (once in two weeks) to speak a little. Girls are affraid to talk to you, they mostly don't speak English. But we are really don't care, since our business is just to get laid.

Last Friday I was with 22 - 24 years old petite Elisabeth (Beth). She asked $60, agreed on $40 and was paid $50. Since I met her a year ago, she gained few pounds, but is still young and attractive.

We went to hotel Monterrey (the only cheap decent hotel in area).
What is really nice about Elisabeth, is that she is really acting like a girlfriend.
We were playing for an hour on bed kissing, hugging and slowly undressing, before we started action. Sex was straight, she was affraid go doggy because she thought that I want anal. She got very hot and insisted to go without rubber. Well, I can't afford to think after: "what if I've got".

Overall it was nice experience. Total two and a half hour for $50. Good value.

Dihaji

11-09-05, 22:18

Hey guys,

Just wanted to state my opinion on here and see what kind of feedback I get.

I was in Nuevo Laredo Oct 29, and headed out to the local bars that are near the border. Montero is the name of one of them and there are two others right down the street from there. I have been going just to those border bars for the past years, maybe 2 years. All the trouble around the Mexico and being thrown in jail for something that I did not do was enough to keep me from straying to far from the border.

Anyways, I was down there (the local border bars) and I have to admit, there are some really good looking girls around that area. But it seemed to me that for every 1 girl there was atleast 3 guys. WTF, more then ussual!! So anyways, I am drinking and looking around and I got to thinking, "I have not visited BTs for some time, so maybe there is a bigger selection there and hotter looking girls there as well."

Guyz.. WTF is going on over there. I have been going to BTs since I was 15, and I am 28 now. In all the random times that I have been to BTs, I have always found a great selection of women. This was not the case this particular night. I was baffled, all the hot girls, or so it seemed, were at the border bars. Anywyas, I felt that it would have been a waste of my time to run back to the local border bars, and stuck around BTs for some action. The only remedy, drink till they look good, only draw back, I am not sure if the lay was good or not. Kinda defeats the purpose.

So my question to the locals that get to visit whenever they chose too. Is there some kind of trend going on over there, or did I possibly just catch BTs in a bad day?

There are time I wished I lived back in Laredo.. hmm. I think after I send this, I will drive back down there tonight. hmm.

D

TJnightwalker

11-11-05, 01:54

Ended up with an older (30ish) one in Marabu; great GFE w/DFK, BBBJ, and offer for barebackingI loved Marabu years ago but I am not sure how good the place is at this time. I met a girl there, Erika, who must be 29 today... great body, nice face, not the best fucking technique but just to enjoy that curves were enough to send me high. She looks a little like Tyra Banks and I must say in body also... but the last thing I knew about her was a pregnancy. Does anyone know about this Marabu chica and how good or bad the place is today?

BorderJumper

11-11-05, 13:34

I keep seeing these reports and reading the anecdotes of people being robbed by the local Police here and that flies in the face of everything I have experienced living here for more than 5 years and coming here for more than 30.

Maybe in the past, who knows, and perhaps it was the attitude of the persons that caused the hassles. You know, if you act like a victim, you will be a victim and should you be looking for something that is out of the mainstream norm, it is possible you will get hassled.

Times are changing down here. We have a new slimmed down better paid Police force with a Chief in charge that has little tolerance for the corruption of the past. The NL Police's new missions seems to be protection of public buildings and patroling a limited area of the city. The Feds and State Officers still patrol the city as a whole and they are a totally professional group.

I had reason to go to the main Police building out on the west side of town a couple of weeks ago o the Transito Office for a copy of an accident report. A professional operation, everyone I spoke with was helpful and friendly and went to great lengths to research and pull a report that was over two years old. The charge for this and for the copies? Zilch, nada, zero! The officer refused any fee whatsoever and went so far as to apologize for his ack of English skills to my wife.

I am in agreement with ZENACTIVE's advice on reporting the Police. I would not tell them you plan to report them but make it obvious to them that is your intentions.

All patrol vehicles have their numbers painted on the side. Every one! Make note of it. Take out a pen and paper, or use your hand and pointedly write down the officers badge number and name from his name tag. Many times they see you doing this and a rapid change of attitude will occur. Especially if you have broke no laws. It has worked for me in the past in Juarez.

In NL, most of the hard core crooked cops are history. The new ones are ambitious and try to do the job right. Perhaps, if one is testing the waters so to speak, your actions will keep him on the straight and narrow

Joe Driver

11-12-05, 19:08

Borderjumper, then why are the owners of bars and restaurants of the centro district going to the municipal presidency to complain about the municipal police, saying they were tired of the extorsions against American tourists, local clients and national visitors, because it was driving away tourism? They said the not just the bar and restaurant owners, but all of the first block of the city suffer from the outrageous actions of the police.
The extortions affect everyone in the downtown area, especially the foreign tourist, and the proof that it is the police - all those of the afternoon , night, and morning shifts go to the currency houses to change between 300 and 800 dollars to pesos. That is per night.
They enter our businesses and remove clients and acuse them of fabricated crimes. They have even resorted to stopping automobiles, nobody escapes.
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I took that from an article in the El Manana newspaper. It sounds to me that the local merchants don't even know what to do about it, so they are going to the municipal president to complain. Joe Driver
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Below is copy of post from another group.

I added translations, not exact word for word, but the idea is intact.....people there are as tired, of us being hassled by the police, as we are.
I guess it was ok with them, until it starts hurting their business, now they are up in arms about it.
Despojan policías a turistas
Por MAURICIO BELLOC
El Mañana de Nuevo Laredo

Los dueños de bares y restaurantes del centro, acudieron a presidencia municipal para quejarse contra los policías municipales de quienes se dijeron cansados, ya que con sus extorsiones ahuyentan al turismo estadounidenses y al cliente local, así como al paisano y al visitante nacional.
The owners of bars and restaurants of the centro district went to municipal presidency to complain about the municipal police, saying they were tired of the extorsions against American tourists, local clients and national visitors, because it was driving away tourism.
Un grupo de más de quince propietarios de restaurantes, bares, centros nocturnos y cantinas se presentaron ante el secretario particular del Alcalde, José Luis Moreno y el secretario del Ayuntamiento Eusebio Sanmiguel Salinas, para presentar su queja contra los preventivos.
Encabezados por sus directivos José Luis Ortiz Cárdenas y René Molano Moreno, manifestaron que de plano los clientes se han retirado en masa de los comercios del centro histórico.
A group of more the 15 owners of the restaurants, bars, and night clubs went before the authorities to make their complaint against the police, saying that many clients have stayed away, in mass, from the centro businesses.

800 DÓLARES POR PATRULLA
$800 for each patrol officer.
"La clientela ya no quiere regresar a nuestros negocios. Están acabando con el poco turismo y el escaso movimiento económico", dijo Ortiz Cárdenas.
Molano Moreno comentó que no sólo son los dueños de bares y restaurantes, sino todos los ramos de la economía del primer cuadro de la Ciudad, los que resienten las tropelías de los policías.
"Extorsionan a todo el que anda en el centro, máxime al turista extranjero y la prueba de ello es que los policías -sobretodo los del turno de la tarde, noche y madrugada- acuden a diario a las casas de divisas a cambiar entre 300 y 800 dólares a pesos. Eso es por noche", aseguró Ortiz Cárdenas.
El secretario del Ayuntamiento envió a los quejosos con Omar Pimentel Zúñiga, director municipal de Seguridad Pública, para que le entregasen los informes y las denuncias.
"Entran a los negocios y sacan a los clientes y los esquilman, fabricándoles cualquier ilícito. Además se hacen pasar por polifiscales con los paisanos y hasta por agentes viales con los automovilistas. Nadie se les escapa", dijo René Molano vicepresidente de la Canaco.
Our clients no longer return to our businesses. We are being done in by little tourism and the economic movement.
They said the not just the bar and restaurant owners, but all of the first block of the city suffer from the outrageous actions of the police.
The extortions affect everyone in the downtown area, especially the foreign tourist, and the proof that it is the police - all those of the afternoon , night, and morning shifts go to the currency houses to change between 300 and 800 dollars to pesos. That is per night.
They enter our businesses and remove clients and acuse them of fabricated crimes. They have even resorted to stopping automobiles, nobody escapes.

BorderJumper

11-13-05, 02:32

Old news Joe! I remember when that article appeared and saw it on the other site when it was posted.

The actions of a few tarnish the reputation of the entire.force. This article was written during the hysteria of the "gang war" back in the summer. The centro business district lost business mainly because of the media reporting in the U.S. of the situation which caused people to cease coming to Nuevo Laredo.

Since then, it has been discovered that most of the Americans "kidnapped" were associated with the drug trade in some way or the other. Either punk ass kids coming over to make a score or others with relatives living in NL and involved with the trade and were lured over and kidnapped until their relativescomplied with whatever demands were made.

As recently as this week, I read a report in a U.S. paper where a Congressman was labeling NL "The New Baghdad"! Now how fucking ridiculous is that.

I guess, living there for the past 5 years and encountering no problems whatsoever makes me wither special or lucky or maybe a combination of the two.

To the great consternation of my wife, I have no problems greating the Municipal Police when I pass them or talking to the State or Federal Police if they come into OXXO or Soriana when I am there.

I still think it has a lot to do with attitude and demeanor. Who knows though

Neobes

11-13-05, 03:04

So is the curfew completely lifted with normal late-night hours in el centro bars and 24/7 in la zona? Thinking of going down this coming weekend, but if they still have a midnight shutdown of the compound, it's not worth it to me.

Bbond

11-14-05, 02:49

Ernie88

11-20-05, 11:24

FYI

Was at the zone, the bars were all being shut down at 2 AM sharp and the zona was being closed due to 20 de Noviembre Holiday. I imagine all the bars will be closed all of the 20th??

Door girls still at work.

Super Gato

11-22-05, 05:57

I don't know what happened to Papagayo lately but on the last few visits down there I found the women quite disappointing. Large girls in their 30s. And then this one woman sat down at my table that had to be in her 50s.

The other place I'll frequent is 123. Me encanta Vanessa. Danash has the best women with the US-styled prices.

The cops have had a big presence in boystown but they don't seem to hassle the customers aside from checking cars that aren't taxis at the entrance.

Nuevo Laredo proper doesn't have the tourist business back at all. The cops are on patrol and seems quite safe. I don't know what the deal was but when I was in the taxi on the way to BT, there were about 10 police trucks and a bunch of cops in the McDonald's parking lot on Lopez de Lara.

Zenactive

11-25-05, 00:04

BorderJumper,

It looks like you rather live in NL than just jump over the border.

You're absolutely right. If you don't look for trouble, most likely you'll be safe.
I'm staying in NL one - two weeks at the time and never had problems.

I'm sure that there is some "collateral" and innocent people getting killed. But 99.9% who are killed or kidnapped are involved in drugs.

There's one history that I know from the first hand. Bad cop who found himself connected to a wrong cartel was affraid of being killed. All his neighbors knew that he'll be killed. His wife moved out with children to Monterrey. One women living next block told me: " I hope they will kill him away from my home" He eventually got killed just at the front of her house.

I was really puzzled why he didn't run away. I was told that he was fired from work few weeks before his killing and stayed in NL, because was collecting unemployment money.

So far, I feel safer in NL than in certain areas of NY or Chicago.

BorderJumper

11-25-05, 14:36

. I don't know what the deal was but when I was in the taxi on the way to BT, there were about 10 police trucks and a bunch of cops in the McDonald's parking lot on Lopez de Lara.

Sounds to me like a critical situation in the making! 30 cops at McDonald and they don't serve donuts? Perhaps they were there because they wuz hungry

Member #4427

11-28-05, 02:07

I go to NL a couple of times a year. I have not been there since January. So I was there a couple of weeks ago, and this is my obersvations. First I work weekends so I always go during the week. I find this much more relaxing and a lot less jerks. I always stay in NL most of the time at Fiesta Inn. I always like to bring company back with me this has never been a problem here, the taxi stops at the security gate and the guard comes out I usually just wave and he waves back.

On this trip I did not see the usual number tourist at BT or Downtown. Even for a weekday. I do agree that the quality of the women was down at the bars, but not as bad as I thought from the other posts. Alot of the door ladies were still ones from January. It appeared to me the girls at the bars were a little more agressive than normal, this maybe from the lack of tourist and trying to make the sell before you go to the competition.

I did find the door ladies were a little more uptight. First of all you had to beg for them to undress. Most did not want to do this even for a little extra incentive. Next I do not speak much Spanish, but I have never had a problem with finding a door lady to come to the hotel with me. This trip however was completely diffrent they wanted nothing to do with it. I ended up going to Papagayo's which I do not like to go to the bars because you have to pay the bar fine. Well I was completely turned down flat by one girl, but finally got another girl who was very nervous about it. All through the night one of the other girls called her on her cell about once an hour to check on her. What is the diffrence in attitude, I think it has more to do with the tourist who beat the young lady up this summer in BT more than what we are seeing on the news. I think the girls do not want to be put in a situtation that would put them at risk of being beaten. I guess I don't blame them.

Next while in NL this trip I never felt uncomfortable, once. I walked from my hotel to the grocery store, convience store, and to a couple restaurants at night and never once felt threaten.

If I was to offer any tips about staying in NL it would be these:

1) You are in a Foreign Country you do not have the same rights as in the US get over it and change the way you act to avoid confrontation.

2) Limit your alcohol intake keep your wits about you. This does not mean you can not relax have fun and enjoy a cocktail, just watch how much you drink.

3) Don't dress to draw attention to you, leave the cowboy boots, air nikes, the pro-sports shirts, and the usa flag crap at home, your in a foriegn counrty not everybody like people from the US. Usually I just wear a plain T-shirt, jeans, and tennis shoes.

4) Have some extra cash stashed in your sock, shoe, or somewhere so in case you do get rolled you have some money to get back to the border/hotel.

5) Always make the deal before getting in a Cab and make sure you understand it is in Dollars or Pescos. I never use pescos, everyone takes dollars and can make change. This has never been a problem.

6) Find some useful spanish phrases you think you might use and have them on a sheet of paper and keep in your pocket.

7) If you walk around BT or around town at all beaware of what people are doing around you, make eye contact with people you meet smile and say hello. Be aware of where you are if you have a bad feeling about something trust your instincts, and go back to where you last felt comfortable.

8.) Last these ladies have a hard enough life. Try to treat them with some decency, that is the least you can do.

BorderJumper

11-28-05, 23:27

Zenactive

11-29-05, 12:54

Santiagotx

11-30-05, 22:10

Was in NL 2 weeks ago and hung out in Danash for a few. Met this smoking hot girl named "Lily". Long VERY curly hair and a great athletic body. I am guesing 34 D's. She was lots of fun (and of course pumped me for lots of drinks). Shot me a big $$$ amount to go to the hotel and I shot her down. I've thrown out some cash for some good action but she seemed a little agressive. Was thinking about going this week a seeing if I could negotiate with her to spend a couple of days. Any body know her and is she worth going back for?

Santiagotx

12-02-05, 01:28

I went to the Christms party last year and had alot of fun. I hung out with the Miroslaba and a girl namd Patty from Saltillo. Took Miros to the room and Patty to the hotel, she always gave a great GFE. Both are now in TJ. Miroslaba calls every week and ask for me to come to TJ and Patty calls about once a month. Anyway.... I did not make Papagayos on my last 2 visits so I do not know when the party is this year. Anyone have the info?

I was thinking about going this weekend but may save the trip for the party.

95 Vette

12-02-05, 05:01

Mexico changed constitution and local and state police have almost equal status with federal police. It looks like there is more authority and less responsibility.

I want to be wrong, but with the level of corruption on local level (Federals rarely take bribes) we can expect more troubles with police in NL.

Hmm... I live on the border and I read alot of online newspapers from other border cities, and I have NOT head anything about Mexico changing thier constitution. What has happened is that the Fed. Gov't. in Mex. has given them some more rights(not really), beacause of all the problems, but as far as I know, they ARE NOT equal in anyway to any one else; all this is from the gov't. trying to clean up the cities and police forces.

BorderJumper

12-04-05, 02:05

Relatively minor guys as opposed to the effort it take to pass and amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Simply put, they amendment gives State and Municipal Police the authority to pursue and apprehend Drug Smugglers and others that in the past the Federal Highway Police, The AFI (Mexican FBI) and Attorney General's Police only had authority to pursue and/or investigate.

Last week, 50 more officers of the Nuevo Laredo force were terminated because they did not meet the new standards for officers as set out by the government in Mexico City.

Possibly, you will see even less corruption in the ranks of the street officers.

Bbond

12-06-05, 01:58

Sancho Villa

12-15-05, 06:34

Attended my first Papagayos feliz navidad party last night by accident. Did no go to the zona for that reason but am I ever glad that I ended up there.

These cats know how to throw a party! All girls in evening gowns and prom dresses. There must have been 150 girls there all willing and able. It seemed like a big party though with sex on the side if you wanted that. They had a live band and the girls looked fantastic. They really got into this night. A lot of time and effort made this a great party. Seemed like all of the events of the passed year were forgotten and everyone just wanted to have a good time. There was a bunch of dancing, drinking and I'm sure a bunch of good fucking and sucking.

Thanks Papas for a great party!

Sancho

Were any of you other guys there?

Glock

12-22-05, 03:20

My friend and I are going to be in Texas next month. We are planing to drop by Boy's Town, while we are there. My friend wants to bring his camcorder to make his own home video. He got away with it in Tijuana before, but I'm not sure if it is a good idea to try the same thing in Boy's Town. Should he bring it? and is there anything else we should know?

Ernie88

12-23-05, 20:23

Went by the compound on Thursday at just before midnight. Most of the door girls were gone and a few of the clubs seemed to be empty or even closed. The usual X-Mas exodus as the girls as the rest of Mexico seems to leave for home for the holidays.

Found this new girl name Donna. By BT standards she was tall, thin and in shape. She was at the scuzzy green building on the middle street. Donna said that she arrived about a week ago in NL to party and wound up at BT. Donna has short frizzy hair that is black with painted blond at the ends. When I got her to the room I noticed that her skinny look didnt look so bad as she seemed to have a bit of tone to her so I decided for the extra $10/sin ropa deal. Well worth it! Her breasts are very small but her thin body was smooth and she did not have that bag of bones feel. Also, those lonnnng legs. Whew! She has several tattoos, but they were actually well done unlike those prison or ugly ink that some of the girls have. In bed, Donna was enthusiastic and seemed to like what she was doing! She didnt look at her watch and was willing to please.

I spoke with her for a few minutes afterwords and she said that she her parents are from Puerto Rico. But that she moved to Mexico when she was a young girl. That explained the frizzy hair and more exotic look compared to the indigenous look many of the girls have. I didnt ask her age but my guess is from 22-25. Hard to tell as she might be older but her body was in great shape and this might give the youthful look. For what its worth, Donna was dressed more modern than most of the girls and seemed to be more "withit" with what is going on.

Old Rebel II

12-26-05, 17:57

I do not think it a good idea to bring a camcorder to BT. That is if you expect to get home with it. Cops will probably take it if they see it. You will not be able to use it in the clubs and probably not on the street. Most of the girls will not let you use in the rooms. Too many have had their photo put on the web in the past. Most will not allow still photos and a camcorder would be over kill.

Of course there are exceptions to ever rull in Mex.

A couple of years ago Pimp Daddies would probably allow it but they closed down.

Lovelog

12-26-05, 23:39

Has anyone been to boystown on New Years Eve? Will there be many ladies there? AM thinking about driving down from Austin.

BabyHuey

12-29-05, 02:04

Will be dead, most of the girls won't be back for about another week after, they usually start showing back up the weekend after New Years. If I was going to Mexico for New Years, I would go to Ciudad Acuna. I have never been there, but I hear most of the girls that work there, aalso live nearby (whereas most NLBT girls are from Monterrey, Tampico, and so on), that way they can come to party for New Years. Don't go to NLBT, you will be dissappointed.

Ernie88

12-29-05, 03:21

Agree with BHuey. BT is dead right now as most of the girls are from the interior of Mexico and are home for the holidays. There are few girls, but there is also very few customers, so this may even out your experience. But if I were you, I would wait until mid January and take advantage that all the girls will be back, refreshed, ready to work, ready to recoup all the money they spent during the holidays!

Note that literally tens of thousands of Mexicans that live in the US will head to Mexico (through Laredo) for about 2 weeks (or more) during the X-Mas/New Years break. Next weekend will be packed on the bridge as many of the Mexicans have kids that need to be back to school, or they need to get back to work. Why should you care? Well, if you plan to drive into Mexico, expect long, slow lines on the bridge. Since most of these families traveled for several weeks, that have packed mini-vans and trucks and Homeland Security will need to inspect these vehicles one by one. Avoid getting behind packed vehicles when heading to border inspection.

Rick 2

12-31-05, 02:25

I'm intrigued by the history of the NL BT zona. I've been there twice, both times during the slow period between Xmas and New Years, and both times during the week. Granted, I was going on a slow day on a slow week, but after 10-11 PM or so it seemed to be fairly busy, with many cars crusing up and down the streets examining door girls. Nevertheless I distinctly sense that the NL BT was much busier and much more glamorous at some point in the past.

Here's why I think this:

1) I sense that fully 1/3 or more of the available bar spaces are vacant/abandoned. For example, referring to the Boys Town map that is posted elsewhere in this forum, there are a number of vacant bars on the right-most street where the cartographer says, "dark and deserted - avoid at night." Elsewhere the map notes several lots are closed, implying that there is a building there but it is not in use.

2) Those clubs that are open seem under-utilized. Tamyko has an intriguing water park / pond / fountain setup, but it's dry and they don't even use that room, although it is lighted. Marabu also has some intriguing architecture: the north doors show that someone put some effort into designing the building. Also the display / sculpture behind the bar likewise shows some care and talent. In my informal analysis Marabu is the largest BT club in terms of square footage, with nice tables and arm chairs, but I can't imagine it being anywhere close to half full even on a busy night. Please correct me if I'm wrong: it is possible that these perceptions of under-utilization could be due to the date I was visiting.

3) Again referring to the BT map, in the upper-right corner, I guess that would be the NW corner, there is an abandonded club inaccessible because of weeds, and a curious arch structure that I sense at one point was an entrance to the compound. It seemed to have a late-50s / early 60s style about it. The entire zona, and this NW region in particular, remind me of the abandonded war-torn Vietnamese cities in the movie Full Metal Jacket.

4) I sense that very little new construction has occured in the past 30-40 years. Considering how the zona is currently maintained, which is not very well, I doubt that anyone today would be willing to invest money to create the quality of structures exemplified by Marabu, Tamyko, and Papagayos. Granted Papagayos seems fairly full.

Overall I sense that the compound was planned and built to support a much larger volume of business than it currently does. Perhaps when BT was built there was more local demand: I think I read somewhere about a military base nearby. Perhaps the planners of the compound over-estimated demand, similar to the debacle of Euro-Disney. Please share you thoughts.

Here are some things I'm curious about:

Does anyone have any pictures of the zona "back in the day"? I don't care so much about the girls; I'm just curious how its changed (or hasn't changed) over the years. Surely many pictures have been taken over the years.

Where can I see documents concurrent to the construction of BT, such as plans, timetables, architectural blueprints, etc.? For a neighborhood in the urban U.S. this would be easy to find, but I doubt the Mexican authorities are as well organized.

Who acctually OWNS the bars and door-girl apartments in BT?

When was the compound built? What, if any, planning and direction went into its creation?

The next time I go to NL I'm going to go during the day, take a camera, and photograph these architectural oddities. (I don't plan to deliberately photograph the denizens of BT.) But it will be some time before my resources and schedule permit a return trip. Perhaps if these topics pique the interest of other contributors to this forum they could take some daytime pics for us.

Thanks for reading my post. Any and all tidbits of knowledge are appreciated.