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01-01-05, 02:00
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Nefarious
02-26-05, 15:44
Gentlemen,

My recent trip to Pattaya, Thailand left me with empty nuts, a big smile on my face, and enough left over cash for another fun trip in April. While I loved Pattaya, I've been also taking a look at Angeles City, PI. Anyone care to offer a comparison between these two hot spots? Please PM me or just post here. By the way, thanks for all of the posts on Angels City, they have been very helpful.

Sun Wolf
03-04-05, 23:53
Nefarious. I guess Im not the only one trying to compare both these "hot spots" and there will problably never be an answer for which one of these two places taking the first price.

For me I prefer Angeles City. For instant the music it better inside the bars, its somehow cleaner, the girls speaks perfectly english and they dont run away when you bying a ladydrink, the alcohol is cheaper and the barfine is more or less the same at any bar(between 1000-1200peso). Also, I dont have to wait until 8 or 9pm to have action started.

There is some backdraws and these are that mostly of the girls are quiet conservative comparing to Thai-girls and you have to beg for your blowjob more or less. That would never happening in Pattaya.

One other thing is that many of the girls have boyfriends waiting them after work which means that some just leaving you in the middle of the night.
Make sure about you blowjob and tell Mama San about what time you want your girl to leave next day.

I'm no "cheap charlie" but since Im travelling 5-6months every year Angeles is a better value money-wise. Sure the standards of the hotel-rooms and the food are much better and as well cheaper in Pattaya.

For me "Roadhouse" is a good start. 2local drinks for 70peso(50bath),snacks and good music. They open 6pm. If you want action before there are some bars open daytime from 12noon and just before I left 10days ago there was a new bar "the dollhouse" just open 24hours a day!

There is soo many bars and we all have different taste so I cant tell you where to go...just go inside any and look for your own taste.

Nefarious
03-07-05, 10:36
Guys, sorry if Im a bit confused, but I've been getting reports that a barfine is about 1,000 peso ($20 USD), so are you saying that you don't have to give the girl anything extra other than a modest TIP? If so, that is a bit different than I am used to in Thailand. In LOS, the barfine is about 300 baht ($8) and LT is 1,000 baht ($26) or $34 total before tip. Am I understanding this correctly? I've read the forum, but I seem see some conflicting reports and I also continue to have connection problems.

I heading to PI in April, so I thought I'd just check to be sure I've got things straight.

JT
03-07-05, 12:00
For me, I prefer Angeles City over Pattaya. IMHO, the girls in the Philippines are sweeter and more passionate. The girls in Pattaya are more professional (on average). There are outliers though.
Thailand has more volume and the PI has more quality. Again this is my own opinion.

Overall the prices are about the same, when averaged with hotel, bf, food, travel, etc...

Marconista
03-07-05, 16:36
What you are bringing up here is, as I understand it, how things are handled in Angeles. The BF I understand, has increased to PhP1200 now (all inclusive), but with an expected tip on top.

In Manila it is PhP3000 BF in the Burgos Street-clubs, with additional PhP1500-2500 to the girl.
In both the EDSA Entertainment Complex and the new Entertainment Center the BF is PhP1000 with additional PhP1500-2500 for the lady (negotiable).


Guys, sorry if Im a bit confused, but I've been getting reports that a barfine is about 1,000 peso ($20 USD), so are you saying that you don't have to give the girl anything extra other than a modest TIP? If so, that is a bit different than I am used to in Thailand. In LOS, the barfine is about 300 baht ($8) and LT is 1,000 baht ($26) or $34 total before tip. Am I understanding this correctly? I've read the forum, but I seem see some conflicting reports and I also continue to have connection problems.

I heading to PI in April, so I thought I'd just check to be sure I've got things straight.

Member #1005
03-09-05, 10:56
I came up here for a little unfinished business in the sense that I have got to know many people up here and again keep regularly in touch with them. It's scary because everywhere I go people remember me. I have said this before Angeles City is one of these places that you either love or hate. On the negative side it’s a bit rough in places some of the road wouldn’t qualify as a road in other places. I saw a question asking what you can do up here, well the answer is: drink, drink, drink, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, drink, drink, drink fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck fuck. The best thing about Angeles City is that it is cheap very cheap everything possible here (within reason).

There is not a great deal to do in the days so fortunately I am able to post and I am watching a lot of day time television and one of my favourite shows is Wowowee which comes on at 1pm on GMA, I like the dancing girls who are basically cheerleaders.

If you watch some TV here you will discover that to be a successful woman you need to have fair or whitish skin, black silky hair and beautiful white teeth, if you have that then you can also have two perfect kids and then you can make sure your husband’s shirts comes out of the wash perfectly white.

This is not the place to start looking for wife material, don’t get me wrong it is possible but it is much harder work here. If you are seeking a wife I would suggest first going go other cities. However, on the positive side its easy to find yourself a regular girlfriend up here all you have to do is treat them right.

Angeles City is being improved, the roads are being fixed up and some of the establishments are making more of an effort to become much more business like or professional. Normally, I stay at the Orchid Inn, www.orchid-inn.com but when I called, shock and horror, they told me they were fully booked up – what’s going on here - this is the third hotel that has been full? So I then decided to try the newest hotel in Angeles “The Hotel Royal Amsterdam- in fact with the Orchid Inn being full they did me a favour because I would have not got to have known the Royal Amsterdam www.hotelroyalamsterdam.com It’s a great hotel and price are on par with the Orchid, although I would say that in some parts its actually cheaper for a much nicer hotel. They are currently finishing off phase two of the hotel that should be opened in April offering some long stay apartments, just opposite, from the main building.

Both hotels offer internet access but whilst there are some local chat sites that you are unable to get through to from Orchid Inn I was able to access them from The Hotel Royal Amsterdam. My only couple of gripes about the hotel are that I am not keen on the in-room safe, not one of the most user friendly types you can find and second there are not enough rooms for this place.

Day 6 ..Continued

On my way up here from Makati I decided to take a car after I negotiated a reasonable price, one girl I have been corresponding with for a long while I had arranged to meet me for dinner, in fact on the way up she said she could meet me anytime I got here. I decided that as I wanted to eat in the Thai place Krung Thai on Fields Ave that I would meet at 6.30pm, this girl I will call her May as she is a regular girl and not a bar girl was on time five minutes early which is unusual for girls here.

We went for a meal and whilst I was eating my food this girl played around with hers, it turned out when I later asked why she wasn’t so hungry that she had eaten at 4pm. Following that we had a brief walk around the block then over to Kokomos for a quick drink in the upstairs bar. Then I asked May at 8pm what she wanted to do next, expecting to hear that she wanted to go bar hopping or something, but the response I get is: “Up to you?” (being a male in Angeles City there is only one thing on my mind) When she finds out that I have a computer in my room she asks to come and see it.

Once in my room and after checking a couple of web sites we get down to business, and it was only 9pm by now but this girl was already getting low down and dirty, remember this is not a bar girl here she runs a small business and has two other girls working for her and also attends college part time, a couple of days a week. She told me she borrowed 45,000 Pesos to start her business and her mother said she can do anything she wants as long as she is not a bar girl. But this girl was a freak in bed she is only 24, but she wanted everything I could throw at her literally. Bbbj, cowgirl, doggy style, etc. I put on a condom the first time but she kept say its OK no problem, well it was a problem for me because I was trying to work out how much it would be costing me in maintenance, if I got her pregnant.

Throughout the night May kept getting telephone calls and texts messages concerning her work, there was a problem there or something, but following this she would be off again wanting more dick and would just sit on top of me and put my dick inside saying its OK no problem, usually I am the one that should be saying that. Fortunately, I was still tired (shagged out) from my time in Manila so I was able to exert some self control on the situation. When I was talking to May later asking about what would happen if she got pregnant her response was rather blasé:, “Its no problem, I am 24.” Anyway the following morning after her telephone went off again, initiating another session telling me, she likes no loves sex, well I had already worked that one out. May said it was because I smelt nice so guys please take my advice – shower and wash your clothes regularly women like guys that take care of themselves. I was coming down in the lift one day in the City Garden and this chap came into the lift and it was like – pheeeew! Let’s just hope he found some girls that had lost their sense of smell.

May only left at 11.20am because she had to get to college at midday, but this was more a GFE than bar girl experience. It would seem that this girl was either a nymphomaniac or had not had sex in a very long time because she was wearing me out.

All in all its was a good night, costing me no more than 700 Pesos (U$13/£7/€10) for the meal at Krung Thai and a couple of drink at Kokomos; and great sex through the night, priceless! This girl May has text me a couple of times asking to meet up again, her text message read - "!I needsome hot dick" but this is Angeles City too many women not enough time.

Juniour

Wilbur Mills
03-11-05, 11:10
Day 7

I am trying to utilize my time as best as possible and whilst also keeping up or catching up with my posting. The weather is beautiful and so are the women I am also trying to get around a bit more. I have been looking around at the various bars and finding my feet so to speak, I am very impressed with the newest club in town Dollhouse, it’s a professional run establishment that was being built last time I was here. I went in for a couple of drink and not only are the girls pretty but its also open 24 hours – yes, it never closes. However, I did pop in there at 8am one morning and had some breakfast orange juice when I was up to see what the place was like in the morning, but there were only two customers, one of them fast asleep. I am not sure how long a club can remain open for three customers with around 20 staff and beer costing 70 Pesos, but just enjoy it while its lasts. Like some of the other places in town Blue Nile and Cambodia it also has an upstairs balcony. But I like it as it has set the standard for the others and raised the bar so to speak. The problem with many bars, for example Champagne Bar, is that is by the time you have six customers in there is no room for anyone else to relax apart from the uncomfortable bar stools.

I went into the Cheaters Lounge, which back in February was re-named the Viper lounge to me this place has gone down, it just doesn’t have the same atmosphere or feel as the previous place, they used to have some nice girls in there and the music was better, but who knows what will happen in the future. I spot a couple of girls who used to work in there, now working in other clubs, good for them, I am noticing many signs outside of many clubs are recruiting a full complement of staff, from mamasans, beautiful GRO (Guest relations Officers) and attractive dancers with pleasant personalities.

Through the night I make my way back to my regular clubs and I am embarrassed that many girls remember my name but I am unable to recall theirs. After some catching up I get into the Blue Nile Executive its still kicking and has many nice touches in there, one of my favourites is when the girls get up and dance on the table and the choreographed dance group that comes on every half hour, there is always someone who forgets part of the routine. OK, its marginally more expensive than other places, but on the whole you have to pay for quality. I am sitting down when I spot this girl who I recall from my last trip here, at that time she was bar fined by some other guy on my last night in town, fortunately I am here on my second night and I tell myself – I am going to have that girl (actually my words were - I am going to fuck that girl). Unfortunately, this girl doesn’t do herself any favours because she just doesn’t smile and has a face like a sour puss.

However, on this night I had a difficult choice to make – go after my fantasy woman or go back to Cambodia where I told this girl, who was all over me – “I’ll be back!” I thought I should stick with my sure thing and took back this girl from Cambodia Club to my hotel. The bar fine was 1200 Pesos (U$22/£11/€16)

Overall, it was so so sex did the typical things, blow jobs, cow girl, doggy style which was her favourite but she was a bit shy about the photos this being her first time to work in a bar, but she asked if I wanted her to stay I said no as I wanted to get a good night’s rest and get up early to write up some of my posts and then go for a walk.

Day 8

I have taken to walking around the area in mid-morning partly for exercise and second to get to know the place. I keep getting stopped by Tricycle drivers who come over and introduce themselves and claim to know me, as they are the driver from MY HOTEL, I always ask which hotel. One guy followed me for ages, 30 minutes, and kept asking to take me somewhere free- of – charge (he claimed) to show me something. I said I was busy with other things. Take my advice avoid these guys, nothing is free here.

My favourite girl is now back from her province, who works at the Black Pearl BJ Bar, the mamasan and a couple of the staff know me now and as this girl has just brought a new cell phone we swap numbers so I can text her when I need her to come over, only in AC. This girl does text me regular to ask to come over to my place or can I pass her a load on my cell phone which I do, but only 2 Pesos which I give when most girls ask me for a load – I love Smart. The price of a BBBJ is still the same at 500 Pesos, (U$9/£5/€7) and the transsexuals are still out in force. I also bump into a couple of staff at the Orchid-Inn who ask me why I am not staying there, I explained that it was full and they said I need to book early, but the Orchid will now be my second option to stay having tried the Hotel Royal Amsterdam.

I am receiving texts from these girls in Manila asking when I am coming back, but I am enjoying it up here because the pace of life is much slower and the choice of women is greater. I literally bump into a girl who I posted some of her photos with another girl last September and we get talking I ask if she is interested in another photo shoot with me, but stress I need two girls, she says her cousin has big boobs and wants to do it with her. I already have her cell number so we exchange text message to see when is a good time for me, because I have made plans to do things already, she wants to do it now and borrows 50 Pesos advance from me. I say later on in the week as I am in town for a while, but as luck would have it a guy two door’s away from me in the hotel bar fines her and another girls for a couple a days so I keep seeing her coming out of his room, but out of respect to her I pretend I don’t know her.

This night I had planned to get to know this girl I saw the night before at the Blue Nile Executive, so I arrive there early, it has just gone 9pm and fortunately, for me, she is working this night. Within ten minutes of arriving at the club I see her and call her over, her face still looks like a bitter trout’s. She comes over and I get talking to her personality is much nicer than I expected we begin to hit it off. After a couple of drinks l discuss the barfine at 1250 Pesos (U$23/£12/€17), but let’s call her Cheryl, but she tells me she is having her period. I still agree, because l wanted to get to know her better. It turns out that she has a cousin working there so l barfine her as well.

Back in my room we have three in the bed session and chatting, whilst Cheryl is still wearing her panties she was offering a BBBJ and then she suggested that her cousin can come on top of me cowgirl style. Her cousin at times was playing around with her cell phone so I had to tell her to turn off the phones as they are working now – this is business. We had a good evening and despite one of the rules I saw in the Hotel Royal Amsterdam that only one guest is allowed in rooms, however during my stay, I saw some guys with two, three and even one with four companions.

At the end of my sessions I exchanged cell numbers with Cheryl and agree to meet up and go down to Robinson’s mall the following day. She asks if I want her to stay but I say she can leave to go back with her cousin, she doesn’t ask for a tip but I give her a small box of chocolates that I carry around and give out as small presents and I agree to meet up the following day.

Frequent Flier
03-12-05, 08:43
Hi Juniour,

Nice reporting.

I have read bad reviews on other boards for the Doll House.

All agree that it is a nice new interior, but the atmosphere with the girls and the prices are the problem. The girls are hardcore and only want you to buy them drinks, which they gulp down as fast as possible. Or, in some cases, are willing to go out with you for a bar hop, but no sex. Can't believe this, but more than one person has reported this.

They are also trying to charge 3000 peso bar fines as opposed to the 1000 to 1200 that the other establishments charge.

If this club Doll House is successful then you can rule out the old inexpensive Angeles City as the rest of the bars will raise their rates once they see that the customers are willing to pay these new much higher prices.

On other boards there are calls to avoid the place so as to assure it will fail with this new business model.

Many believe that it will fail because of all the items that have been reported as I stated above. So that more and more mongers know before they arrive what is going on here I am putting out the word here as well. I have not been to the Doll House, but have vowed not to even give it a look and see when I am there. I refuse to give this club any business at all. Not even the purchase of one beer for me and definitely not a lady's drink or bar fine.

FF

Wilbur Mills
03-12-05, 17:09
I was up early today and caught up on some of my postings I am also taking many photos and will be posting them later. I start receiving texts from the early morning; I am arranging to meet Cheryl to go watch a movie at Robinson’s malls, I walk down there to check what is on and what’s worth seeing. There are four screens at the mall showing two horror films, a tagalog movie and Hitch so there was really no choice on what to watch here, Hitch, the romantic comedy won the day.

We arrange to meet at 15.30 but the movie does not start until 17.05 so we have plenty of time to talk. I arrive dead on 15.30 and Cheryl is already there waiting for me, I am impressed she’s early, a ticket costs only 85 Pesos and is free seating. We grab a bite to eat or rather I eat and she drinks an ice tea. There were no more than ten other people in there; it was a good choice of movie and Cheryl was very affectionate during the movie. The movie finishes at 7pm and we head back to Field Ave as Cheryl doesn’t begin work until 8pm. I discover that her sister also works in the Blue Nile Executive so I promise to go there in the evening to find out what she looks like.

I go around to a couple of the bars to get an idea of the prices, in one bar Treasure Island I am having a quick drink when I notice this Japanese or Korean guy sitting watching the girls on the podium with this girl wanking him off in the bar either that or she was busily wiping off the drink she must have spilt on his lap. Like I have said this before this is Angeles City and anything can happen here. I get around to a couple more bars before I head down to the Blue Nile Executive at 10pm. Its mid week the club is busy but not packed there and there are seats to relax on. I get talking to Cheryl and her sister who informs me that she’s a bit shy. Cheryl wants to meet up the following day so I say text me. The most popular record for all the girls I keep hearing is Usher’s & Alicia Key’s “My Boo” the girls go wild when this is on and sing it constantly, so naturally, I score points back in my room when the girls discover I have it on my computer. When I was talking to the two sisters and they popped into the CR to do their ladies things, another girl who works in the Blue Nile Executive Kim, comes over and hand me a napkin and asks me to take it, on it she had written: “What is your name, please” she is tall for a pinay at 5’8” but obviously I was already with someone else so I wasn’t to interested and there is only so much putang one man can handle in a day but I talk to her and grab her picture. She is the one that wears the cat women mask but she has no whip. (See Photo)

Day 10

Staying at the Hotel Royal Amsterdam I usually go down for breakfast early, I always keep seeing this group of Japanese guys staying at the hotel. It is very interesting to see some of the women that guys are with because some of the older Europeans prefer the mature women, some are considerably on the rough side, whilst I see two Europeans with a couple of young looking bar girls. The Asian guys prefer the fair looking innocent girls, one or two of these girls could easily pass for their daughters. The youngest looking girl I saw in bars was inThe Wellcome Inn this girl looked aged about 14 and I asked if she had been to school today, but the mamasan assured me that she was 22 years old and had a licence to work. Apparently, to work in the bars the girls need to obtain licence and there is a fine for the bar owners if they are caught employing unlicensed girls. Talking to a girl I knew from last year, in Cambodia told me that over the last 12 month generally things have been very quiet and she had not been bar-fined and only earned money from drinks.

I meet up Cheryl in the early afternoon and she hang out in my room fortunately I have been able to post in the early mornings, I ask what she wants to do but she says nothing much and we just hang out in my room until she goes to work. Cheryl doesn’t even want to eat and just watches television and we get busy for a while but she is happy and so am I.

Later on I go out to eat and then did some more bar hopping, I am not planning to go down to The Blue Nile executive, tonight to have some space. A girl I have known since last year I always talk to her every day and she fills me in with what’s going on in the city. She moans to me she has no budget to watch a movie, after I tell her I watched Hitch, and I say we can go the following day, as it only costing me 85 Pesos, she could be useful in the future. That night I went to some more bars to the far end of Field Avenue, I get to the Insomnia Bar where I was just checking the prices but as typical with AC I saw one girl in there that looked hot to me, if I can clarify I like my girls to actually look like women, with breast and an ass and this girl had them both. So I cannot see what the problem is, if the girl already has a baby. This girl Julie had a sexy booty, in the Insomnia they have a little booth so I go in there with her in order to get to know her better, but she keeps saying she wants to come to my hotel. I am debating whether I should be bar fining Julie and after 45 minutes I am persuaded.

I have to grab some photos of this girl’s sexy booty and she says that only black guys comment about her booty – I can certainly see why. This was another girl who was a bit of a freak in bed and she really enjoyed the anal probing when I was sticking a finger in her ass when I fucking her doggy style, she was really pushing back on it. She also gave a great bbbj, just second to one of the Blow row girls of Santos Street. I really enjoyed the sex with Julie because it wasn’t mechanical and she was really into it. Although, I did scold her for not being careful with condoms during the sex because again she didn’t ask and just went for it. But she said she had recently had a health check, but as she didn’t know me from Adam she should have been more cautious in protecting herself.(see photo)

Frequent Flier I have not seen anything negative about the Dollhouse, maybe they, whoever “they” are, should share the information. But just to correct you on one point the bar fine in the Dollhouse is 1200 (U$22/£11/€16) Pesos the bar fine for the spotlight dancer is 3000 Pesos (U$55/£28/€41) I know because I checked out all the bars this week and will be posting the full post in a couple of days. There are six spot light dancers who come on every 30 minutes and do a sexy routine, but thanks anyway.



Juniour

BK Big Fish
03-13-05, 07:09
Got back a week ago from a week (too short) in Angeles. I have been many times, but oddly enough I had only been to about half the bars, so this time I decided to hit as many bars as I could, averaging about 10 a night. So, here are the results of my First Annual Angeles Bar Survey (note that none of the bars in the categories are in any particular order):

Best overall

Brown Sugar (lively, comfortable couches, lots of women)
Blue Nile (always excellent, new and improved will two girls selling tequila and one girl selling blowjobs -- no, unfortunately only the alcoholic kind)
Champagne (too many girls to fit on one stage, bright and lively, great mamasan)
Pasha (okay, this one's here only because I went out with two great girls from here, both of whom are named Jocelyn)
Camelot (friendly waitresses, lively, big screen TV)

Best girls (of course, based on my tastes)

Blue Nile (they get a lot of tall, thin ones)
Champagne (as always)
Gecko's (the girls there are a wild bunch)

Best costumes

Bananitas (bikinis with criss-cross sides, very sexy)
Roadhouse (tiny school uniforms)

Strangely underpopulated by customers

Bananitas (the women are definitely worth it, but no one's ever there)
Agasya (huge, but only a few customers at a time)
Blueberry Hill (strange singing/dancing concept, lots of seats but few butts in them)

Odd places (for those who are looking for something other than just sex, sex, sex)

Black Jack (few girls, just a few solo dancers and karaoke)
Blueberry Hill (few girls, karaoke available)
DMZ (few girls, feels like old style army base juicy bar)

Odd designs (weirdly shaped or decorated bars)

DMZ (I swear, they haven't remodeled the place since the end of the Korean War)
Rhapsody (large area near the door where you can't see the women)
Lollipop/Blue Fox (I think these were the two bars that are eventually going to be combined, but in the meantime the center wall is an eyesore)
Doll House (freaky lifesize dolls and huge Duran Duran-type posters)
Winchester (you walk in, a dozen girls stare at you in the large reception area)

Entertaining atmosphere (lively women and music)

Gecko's (I was getting attacked by girls who were simulating blowjobs, one after the other)
La Bamba (fun girls, nice layout)
Roadhouse (girls are a fun bunch)

Places to go during the day

Doll House (although the pretty girls are only there at night)
Blue Parrot (down Santos Street, pool and hot short time women)

Disclosure: I missed Angels, Treasure Island, Viper Room, Cambodia, Nero's, Misty's, and Blue Nile Executive this time, among the more popular clubs. I'll hit them in June

Oh, and a note of warning: if you can't go back frequently like I can, don't go to too many bars, otherwise your heart will ache will all the gems you find

Frequent Flier
03-13-05, 08:28
Hi Juniour,

I should clarify that they also reported that the bar fines had adjusted as you reported.

They did report that the show girls are really nothing special and that most of the show girls become regular girls, so all you have to do is wait and the price for the show girl becomes 1200 instead of the 3000 peso.

The big problem they spoke of was the refusal to go bar fine. The girls would openly discuss how they had been out previously, earlier in the week, for 3000 for only a bar hop for drinks and fun. That is all they are willing to do according to these reports. They would not do a bar fine at all and the problem these guys had with that is they were told this after 3 or 4 drinks lady drinks were purchased for the girl. A big waste of time according to the report.

This is from another board and these guys do not partake on this board. They are expats and know the scene very well.

Have fun and thanks for the reports.

FF

Faust Joe
03-13-05, 08:41
I may be going to AC in the middle or end of April and I want to meet up with some people from this forum. If you plan on going to AC next month, please send me a PM.

Thanks

Wilbur Mills
03-13-05, 16:26
Please note this information is current for March 2005.

Getting there: Manila – Angeles City

Arriving at NAIA and going up to Angeles City, which is around a two hours drive away north-west, there are a number of options open to you. There are no international flights direct to Clark, that I am currently aware of but a flight from Manila is offered several times a week by Seair www.flyseair.com. Its not a frequent service so your next best bet would be going by bus or car. However, I don’t recommend travelling up at nights or after dark; the crime rate is slowly getting worse.

There are several bus options that travel regularly to Angeles but the most well known and fairly useful is: www.swaggy.com/flythebus.htm

Car options range from first asking your hotel if they can collect you when you arrive, Swagman and the Orchid Inn already do this, at a price. Next option, Private Cars in the Arrivals halls there is an office to your right where you can book a car to take you up there. In fact it is very easy to get a car and most taxis will be willing to take you there, if you agree a fixed price first. The price is anywhere between 1,600 Pesos up to 4,000 Pesos

My advice to a first time visitor is to spend a day or two in Manila first and travel up later shopping is better in Manila and you can get some cash via ATM or money changer and take it up with you.

Hotels

Obviously Angeles City is the type of place that a majority of guys come to for SEX, so let’s make no bones about that. There are a couple of hotels here and you have to make your own judgement call on what you want, a room right in the heart of the action or somewhere quiet that is close by to the action. The noise you get is either from fellow guests having a party in their room at 4am with three bar girls or being near a road where you can here Karaoke being sung 24-7 or these unserviced motorbikes that screech up and down Fields Ave.

Will I have a problem bringing girls back to my room?

This is the Philippines I am not aware of any hotel that will restrict or block you taking any girls to your room. In Angeles City you will have no problem taking two, three or four girls back to your room.

You have many options open to you and prices in AC are much cheaper than Manila but then so is the quality of service you may not get the range of services up here like gyms or swimming pools. Two I can recommend from personal experience are www.orchid-inn.com and www.hotelroyalamsterdam.com there are currently two other new hotels being built here, so do keep a look out for them.

Here is a full list of all the hotels in Angeles City www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html

Getting Around

Angeles City is a relatively small town, not really a city however the options are Tricycles, be warned that some of these tricycle drivers will try to rip you off if you do not agree a price beforehand. Never jump in without agreeing a price first.

Jeepney, easy to use the prices is fixed at 5.50 Pesos the blue Jeepneys take you from the Checkpoint to the Savers, Robinson’s & Nipper Malls down town but it’s a limited route.

Taxis on Field Ave are difficult to find you can get one at the terminal to Clark’s check Point.

Those of you a little adventurous, who really do want to live life to the full; you can easily hire motorbikes from 500 Pesos a day, from many stores along Fields Ave or your hotel will be able to recommend a good dealer. Likewise you can also hire cars at around 1,000 Pesos a day to go further afiield.


ATMs & Cash

There are a couple of ATM machines to be found in the area but do what I usually do when you are in Manila take out enough cash to get you by for your stay in Angeles obviously if you are staying for a long time you will need to locate a machine. There are four banks within a ten minute walk from Field’s Ave and many money changers and for those of you that have spent rather more than you have budgeted for a couple of porn shops that accept cell phones. Robinson’s Mall does not have any ATMs, which is strange for a mall, while the SM Mall in Pampanga has several but the SM mall is around 20 minutes away by taxi and will cost you between 700- 1000 Pesos to get there and back.

For European holders of Maestro, Delta or Switch cards will work in Metrobank and Chinabank ATMs, HSBC and CitiBank are only in Makatia although according to HSBC website that claims to have a branch and ATM in Angeles but I could not find it.Note you need to check with your bank what the charge is for using overseas ATMS, so its not good to keep taking out small amounts of cash.

How much will I need to bring with me?

Its up to you, if you pay for your hotel with a credit card then basically you will just need money for drinking, girls, eating, laundry, cell phone and getting around.

Typical day for a monger

1 girl 1500 Pesos (includes ladies drinks)
1 blowjob 500 Pesos (in the afternoon before you go out)
12 beers 840 Pesos (@ 70 Pesos but would be cheaper in happy hour)
Dinner for two 700 Pesos
Laundry 70 Pesos
Breakfast for two 700 Pesos
Top up Cell 300 Pesos

Total 4610 Pesos (U$85/£44/€63) @ no of days you stay

However, I doubt you will be spending this amount every day.



Girls

This is Angeles City there are all types up here and generally its difficult to say what is attractive to you would be attractive to me. I walk into a bar and the type of girls I go for are a little older and experience looking the ones, who I think will enjoy sex, which many guys would not go for. I have seen many guys this week and couple of them had gone for girls I wouldn’t touch. Your typical Asian guy or rather I should say Japanese, Korean or Taiwanese would go for the young looking white skinned, some American and Europeans prefer the darker skinned older types. As for myself I would say if you look hard enough you will find something that will appeal to your taste – if you don’t then you are just too dam fussy. I doubt you will find any beauty queens up here, but many pretty girls do pass through this city on their way to other things, I have met many girls who are going to Japan or have just returned, so go to as many bars as you can and if luck is with you that beauty may just be waiting for you.

Don’t let the door girls (see photos) cloud your judgement on the quality available inside, all bars employ the prettiest girls to work the door to pull in the customers (obviously!!) I mean if you ran a bar would you keep your beauty queens hidden inside whilst you had all the dragons on the door??

Many of the girls here maybe new to working in a bar, some may be naïve to sex so you might have to tutor them a little in bed. If a girl has good looks and gain some experience they will usually head off to other places to make more money.

My Tip for you is to put on your walking shoes and check out as many bars as you can – you never know what you will find until you look.


Cellphones

It’s easy to find all your cell phone and accessories up here even if you bring a compatible phone from home you can purchase the chip from Globe www1.globe.com.ph/default.aspx or Smart www.smart.com.ph and a charger locally, and top up your phone easily on and around Fields Avenue 24 Hours a day. The top floor of Robinson’s has a good choice of new phones for sale, latest models also available.

Note Philippino girls are incredible inquisitive, if you leave your cell phone lying around they will check to see who you have been receiving text messages from and which names you have in your address book. Worse still some of the devious ones will transfer credit from your cell to their phones. So keep your phone either in your pocket or locked away.



Bar Fines:

I have tried to make a point of visiting as many of the bar in AC to get a realistic idea of bar fines, since on the board there are mixed messages about the bar fines. Yes, it’s a tough job but someone’s got to do it.

Contrary to other places when you pay a bar fine here you don’t need to agree an additional price with the girl. Tip only if you want to, but usually the girls will tell you that’s its up to you what you want to pay or how long they can stay for. So your best bet is to bring some small presents for the girls and they all like chocolate and treat them right but them dinner or drinks. Most girls will stay all night and will usually have breakfast with you. The bar fine varies between 1000 Pesos and 1250 – 3000 Pesos for the spotlight dancer in the DollHouse. Many guys come up here bar fine a girl they like for several days and take them to Boracay or wherever takes your fancy Cebu, Hong Kong, Paris?

Note: In a bar dancers, door girls, waitresses and if you really fancy it the mamasan can all be bar fined, although I have never seen anyone actually bar fine a mamasan.

Bars Charging:

1250 Pesos

Blue Nile Executive, Angel, Vodoo, Lollipop

1200 Pesos

Agasya, Treasure Island, Dollhouse, The Flamingo Club, Dirty Duck, Cambodia, Blue Nile,
Geckos, The Owls Nest 1200 [photos], Club Lancelot, The Bedrock, Misty,
Top Cat, Wild Wild West, Brown Sugar, Camelot, Insomnia, Black Jacks, Nero’s, Viper, La Pasha, The Kitten Club, Bunny Bar, Jungle, Stinger, Las Vegas, The Blueberry Hill,

Note: Dollhouse, the 6 or 9 spotlight dancers are bar fined at 3000 Pesos each (U$55/£28/€41) these are the girls who come on and do a sexy routine every 30 minutes throughout the day.

1100 Pesos

DMZ

1000 Pesos

The Wellcome Inn, Bananitas, Rhapsody, La Banitas, Roadhouse, Private Dancer, Butterfly Rocks, D'Club, Bar Hoppin, Lipstick, Stampede, Cherry Club, Gentleman’s Club, Emotion, Touch Of Class,

What is a good bar..?

Its difficult to say, this depends on you age, your preference in women, taste in music, whether you want a quite bar with pool table and being able to talk to the girls instead of shouting or somewhere you can enjoy a drink and girls. This is Angeles City there is likely to be somewhere that matches your tastes.


Blow Row – Santos Street

See my post from last year:-

www.*************.info/forum/showthread.php?p=303568#post303568

Clubs / Discos

There are a number of clubs up here The Pick Up Disco & Sky Traks and other more up market establishments like R&B, which has live acts (see photo). I don’t know if these are really good places to pick up girls although the disco do have a few freelancers in here, I would suggest that if you meet a girl in a regular bar that you take her to one of these places on her night off.

Viagra and Cialis

I will put my hands up and say that I am not an expert on these drugs, however, I would suggest that if you are purchasing these items that you go to a proper pharmacist and don’t use one of these street vendors trying to flog you them from anywhere between 500 pesos and 1,500 a box. (see photo)


Pool Tables

There are around 20 odd bars with Pool Tables, larger ones like Margarita Station and Kokomos have several tables, so you will always find somewhere to play when you are fed up with drinking and looking at the sexy girls dancing, you can have a ball or two. You can bring your pool cues or purchase them locally.

Laundry

For all your laundry needs l suggest you go to Mamacitas which is close by the Orchid Inn, but as you will have plenty of time on your hands so make a point of taking your laundry there and a kilo starts off at only 30 Peso, yes that is only 30 Pesos. There are many places that provide this service but its easy to arrange. Mamacita’s is a much quicker service because if you take it early in the mornings usually you can get it back by early afternoon, especially if you ask nicely.

Mamacita Laundryshop
110 Oak St
Tel: 09186 349813


Crime

Unfortunately crime seems to be on the rise here, I have heard a number of stories from people and mainly it seems tricycle drivers are the main culprit. One girl told me that when the girls go home in the early hours the tricycle drivers are setting up the passenger, diverting somewhere and have someone snatch their bags for their money or cell phones because they believe the girls are carrying 500- 1000 Pesos tips every night working in the bars. Once they realise that in fact many girls are only carrying 50- 100 Pesos in their bags at most, they will no doubt move on to the tourists. A couple of shops have been robbed in the early hours and many are no longer remaining open after midnight. There are malicious people hanging around the streets after dark hoping to snatch a cell phone or money – so be vigilant. One reason there is now a more visible police presents along Fields Aves, with a Tourist Police office down by the main strip and I kept seeing the police, K9 Unit and walking up and down with their dogs on a daily basis and SWAT several times.


Scams

If you are like me and like walking you will no doubt be stopped by people claiming to be the driver from your hotel and offering to do you a big favour – buyer beware is all l say. Don’t go anywhere with them and do not give any personal details and don’t lend them any money.



Beggars

Anyone walking about in Angeles City is likely to be faced with beggars at some time during your stay; some are polite others can be aggressive or rude. I tend to keep a pocketful of 1 Peso coins which I give to the polite ones, this way the next time you pass they don’t bother you too much. But even if you changed a 100 Pesos into coins in a week you would not got rid of them all.

ICE

A while back I stated that it was safe to have ice in your drinks, I know there are still some travel books written in the 1960’s that states the only safe thing to drink overseas is Coca Cola. Well, things have moved on since that time and the water purification industry is a multi-million dollar industry. I have just spent two weeks in Makati and Angeles City, taking my drinks with ice with no ill-effect whatsoever. As a majority of the bars in AC are owned by expatriates I mentioned this to one and his answer was blunt and simply. We’re not in the business of making our clients ill we want them to keep coming back spending their money.” So there you are, its safe to enjoy your Martinis shaken and not stirred and on the rocks and you can live to Die Another Day. This only applies to the bars some of the street vendor’s ice looks somewhat dodgy and I saw many with the ice on the streets.



24 Hours

Angeles City is the type of place where you can find just about everything 24 hours a day, food, women and some stores 7-11 etc but those of you planning to come down here in the early hours you around 1- 3am, there is still plenty of action available. The DollHouse is open 24 hours and I even went in there at 8am to have some breakfast OJ, inside were two other customers, one of them fast asleep. Blow row of Santos Street is open 24 hours.

Sex Toys

There are a couple a places that sell sex toys, the first is the perfume place, Ask Cosmetics between Sub Delicious and Road House has a selection of vibrators and lubrication jelly in there and the other place is:

Nice & Nawty
1035 Fields Ave
(45) 625-6091

Opposite Rick’s café open from 12 – 12 every day, they also have DVDs and VCDs porn movies in there and various thongs although l saw no edible panties in there. Both places sell condoms international brands such as Durex and Trojan.


Juniour

PS if there is anything else you think should be added drop me a pm, and I will attached the photos later when the system is working.

Member #1005
03-13-05, 19:37
Frequent Flier

Thanks for the information; as I have already said I personally have not seen anything negative concerning the Dollhouse, but you do raise some important questions. The reason is I often get people telling me the same thing to boycott this or that club or bar. Fine I say but give me the background and information and let me make my own mind up.

The first thing I would say is that if these guys are expats, as you have stated then why are they bar fining the girls in the first place? The Philippines is the one place where if you are resident for more that two weeks its so easy to get a regular squeeze. I can name no other place in the world that is so easy basically all you need is a dick, if you cannot find a regular woman and you are an expat – then there is something seriously wrong with you. I have been in Angeles City close on two weeks and been approached by a number of women, so if I resided there I would certainly not be bar fining the girls, rather I would go in and chat to them get their cell nos and arranged to meet up with them the following day. That is how easy it is in the Philippines, if you can’t do that - what more can I say. I have met many expats and they have told me much the same thing, so I would find it strange that some expat went to the Dollhouse and actually bar fined a girl who then later said she only wanted to go bar hopping – this is bizarre, to say the least. I spoke to some girls in the Dollhouse who I got talking too and they were happy to meet up socially no pressure was put on me to buy any ladies drinks. One of the door girls asked to come to my room because she wanted to chat to me but I declined her offer.

This really sounds like some tourist has a beef with the club, because when I bar fine the girls I usually discuss beforehand what I am expecting from them and I recall a girl from Cheeters Lounge, last September who when I was going to bar fine her said to me that she only wanted to go bar hopping which is fine except she had no money in her purse, I declined her offer. The only time I have been conned so to speak was with a girl in the LA Café who after we discussed what she would do then backed out on our arrangement and was claiming she was desperate for them money.

I would appreciate if you could copy over the information you have read concerning the Dollhouse in pm, please, to read it for myself.



Juniour

Orgasm Donor
03-14-05, 02:10
Thanks Juniour, That was the most thorough, detailed report ever. Do you happen to know anything about action in San Fernando/Bauwang area?

O.D.

Frequent Flier
03-14-05, 06:49
Hi Juniour,


I'll PM you the details from the web site, but to answer some of the questions so other would understand as well, these expats are just playing the game as well. They seem to also get the free action, but like to go to the bars as well and see what is available. If they see something they like the price is usually not a barrier so they partake.

Besides, like Charlie Sheen stated when he was caught in the Hollywood madam action a few years ago, He wasn't paying for the sex, he was paying them to leave after the sex. I think some of these guys are on that same page.

I would be very interested in what you feel about the place as there is always the chance that the expats are trying to crowd out new players and the place is really OK. On this other site though the visitors like you and I also verify that the place has some odd business practices.


I have just found out that this airline offers direct to Clark Air base from Hong Kong.
http://www.crairways.com/eng/c3s3.html

I also have heard that Asiana Air flies direct from South Korea.
http://us.flyasiana.com/gateway.asp?action=show#

Not sure if this information is of use to the majority of the board.

FF

Bilbo Baggins
03-14-05, 11:02
Thanks Juniour,

I appreciate the helpful information and the broad viewpoint.

Jazzy Daddy
03-14-05, 18:21
Thanks Juniour, That was the most thorough, detailed report ever. Do you happen to know anything about action in San Fernando/Bauwang area?

O.D.San Fernado in La Union has P4P. Along the the beachside of the Hwy heading north there is a place called Villa Estrella (upscale) with some real gems they do a floor show and you pick whoch you like. However it's rather expensive p3000 for tln. Also there is a red light area that you can just ask the directions, once you get there. The red light district is kind of slummin' but hey! Have fun...

Wilbur Mills
03-15-05, 20:28
OK I was up early and did my typical routine, collect/ give out laundry some writing up my post and going for a walk. This being the weekend meant that I was receiving some text messages from the girls in Manila as I had promised, albeit rather loosely, that I would be returning at the weekend. However, I have been enjoying myself so much as one-day rolls into another that I have opted to remain here for as long as possible. I find it incredible cheap up here and you money goes very far and the women are all over you.

Cheryl had agreed to come around after first texting me to ask me if I was OK. When she arrived at the hotel at 2pm I had decided to give her a treat and go off down to the SM mall in Pampanga. I had asked about a car from the hotel except the only problem is that I would have to wait around 20 minutes, I believe. I then walked over to the Check point terminal where I found a couple of taxis, and asked them a price whereas the hotel were quoting me 700 Pesos for the first three hours this taxi driver was trying to tell me that the price was 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£9/€14). I declined this offer and walked off then the taxi driver eventually followed me as I was heading back to Fields Ave and agreed to match the price I was quoted three hours for 700 Pesos. (U$13/£7/€10)


SM Mall in Pampanga on a Saturday is not such a great idea because it was absolutely crowded, heaving with people, she was loving it because she was constantly texting her sister and cousin who she informed me were saying how they wished they could have come along. Although to be honest I did not have a problem with them coming as there was space in the taxi. The good thing I like about Cheryl is that she very low maintenance, because I have been out with her three times now and whenever I order food all she ever gets is an iced tea. I have been out with girls who when you say: ”What would you like?” Take it as be literally and order ridicules amounts of food that they play with and then waste it.

What I most like here in the Philippines is the product sizes of international brands that are not available back home, what I refer to as travel sizes, I always make a point of buying up as many of these items as possible because it lightens your load when you are travelling and things like shaving gel are ideal.

I decided to treat Cheryl and asked her what she wanted and decided to buy her some panties, so after we went over to Robinsons mall for a bite to eat and then purchase some underwear at the grand total of 740 Pesos. By the time we had got back to Field’s Ave it was close on 5 hours so I agreed to give the driver his 1,000 Pesos for the round-trip. We had time to fool around in my room before she went off to work and I got her to model her new presents for me. That evening I went to the Blue Nile Executive for a while but had a look at a couple of other bars.

Day 12

I caught up with my posting and then text one of the girls at Black Pearl to come over for a BBBJ in the afternoons I had done this several times during my stay, because its helps me to relax in the afternoons. Since I cannot sleep in late I get headaches but I like an afternoon rest and there is nothing better to help you rest than a bbbj. Apart from that very much a quiet day I took this other girl, Clair who works in the perfume store to see the film Hitch that I had seen before because this being a Sunday meant this was the only time she could make it. Clair was pleased but it was a bit noisy in Robinsons and sitting in the Firenze Coffee stall, on the third floor, because of some live act that was playing on the ground floor, meant that we had to shout to be heard.

We returned back to Field Ave by around 7.30pm and Clair was making slight advances towards me, with the typical questions. During my dinner, alone I should add, I received a telephone call from Grace in Manila asking when I was coming back down as they, the girls, were missing me. I made up some excuse about being delayed due to work commitments and she said well, hurry back down. Then strangely later on I received some texts from May the girl I had first met up here, she wanted to meet up again, but unfortunately my time was running out here and there was so much to do. In one of the messages she hinted at coming down to Manila but she didn’t know how to get down there. I said I wasn’t sure when I was going down south and left it at that.

I had only a couple more bars to investigate right at the far end of Fields Ave, these are the ones by the American Hotel, I first went Lipstick, then Stampede which when you go in initially looks dingy but the things about these bars is the drinks are cheaper and the bar fines, as I have stated, are only 1,000 Pesos but there were a couple of girls inside who were doable In fact one girl caught my eye and another girl came up to me straight away she was new in the bar and was from Visaya, sorry I have forgotten her name. But she was all over me, she was talking and said she could come to my hotel after her shift, because this bar closes at 11pm, but by now my plate was already full. We did exchange cell numbers with the promise of meeting up later, but to be realistic I was a bit to busy trying to juggle these women when I already had a nice squeeze. Still heading up towards the American Hotel the road was becoming deserted I entered The Gentleman club and walked up the stairs where I was confronted by a brightly lit room and a couple of girls dancing in the centre of the room one of them fully naked apart from her boots on top of a large wooden penis, in terms of people there were no more than a dozen cliental in there, but I guess with the name Gentlemen’s club I was expecting something else. But on my way out on of the door girls was asking where I was going, and I replied to get some more money to bar fine her.

The other bars that l went too there were Cherry Club, Emotion & Touch Of Class but unlike in the main strip of Fields Ave there were not many customers inside these clubs and the other noticeable thing is that they closed at 11pm, so it would be easy to just bye the ladies drinks and get away with the bar fines and take someone back to your hotel. I believe some of these bars are more popular with expats since the price of the drinks here was much cheaper than in the main strip. I got talking to one or two of expats who mentioned that many tourists never venture up this end of the town. So it is well worth the walk up the street just to see what is available. I went back to Stampede to continue my conversation with this girl and another girl I had spotted earlier and I decided to bar fine this other girl because she was very pretty and grabbed some shots of her back in my room.


Day 13

This was my final full day in AC and how was I going to spend it, hmmm, good question. However, it was Cheryl day off so she came around to hang out with me. And she also brought me some Banana cue, which she promised she was going to cook for me. But I am sure she actually brought them from a stall but I ate them all the same or rather three of them. Very much a quiet day and we ended up eating in Mister Frosty since this is one of the few places you can buy ice cream up here and I had also promised some of the girls in the hotel ice cream from a favour they had done for me, I had something that need fixing and they arranged it for me in return for a couple of ice creams, which was very cheap in comparison. I also spotted that girl that hangs around Kokomos selling flutes who keep asking me to donate, which I had done three times already to her, I said that I would visit her school the following day.

Anyway, Cheryl was staying with me until the early hours when she realised, that as her sister was did not have a key to get back into their accommodation so after trying to contact her, Cheryl was trying to work out what to do; then I said rather than her sister coming to the hotel at 4am for the key that it would be better if she went home and then I grabbed some well earned rest, ready for the following day.

Juniour

Orgasm Donor The answer to your question is, I don't know, I have not had a chance to go over there.

Wilbur Mills
03-16-05, 20:43
This was my last day in Angeles City or rather I should say I was soon due to check out of my hotel and head down to Manila for my evening flight. Therefore, I still had a small bit of time on my hands.

First thing after breakfast l went down to the school of that girl Deborah, (name changed to protect the innocent) who sells the flutes. Anyone who has drank in Kokomos could not have failed to have seen her and the other, little mixed raced girl selling their flutes for 100 Pesos each. I have seen these girls on my last three visits and paid for flutes and was wondering, is this some elaborate scam or does this school actually exist. So when I was approached again the night before, when I was with Cheryl, I spoke to Deborah asked for her school address and decided to pay a visit. So I had to take a taxi from the entrance to Clark, to get to this school as its on the far side of the base. OK I found the place easy enough and as soon as I stepped in I met the two girls and their head teacher who all gave me a brief tour of the school. Whilst there I also donated some money towards the school, part of it going to this Deborah’s graduation who’ family were trying to raise the 600 Pesos they were short, now this won’t make them rich nor will it make me poor. The school was very pleased and presented me with a recorded, which I tried not to accept but they were insisting I accept this small gift. So please when you are next in Angeles, enjoy your beers in Kokomos, with your female friends please give do generously, this does go to a good cause – I promise.

This being the Philippines, as I was part way through my tour of the school after asking me some probing questions, the head teacher was trying to fix me up with a single teacher – I kid you not, and they kept saying I would be a good match for her. Hmmmmmmm???? I politely declined her kind offer and said I would be back another time.

Back at the Hotel Royal Amsterdam I was expecting to settle my bill as I had paid something the day before but was surprised at the actual nightly room rate because it was only a paltry sum, in terms of hotel rates. The receptionist had promised that they had booked me on the fly-the-bus down to Ermita, at 11.45 the coach turned up. It was a rather smaller coach but I thought this was not too bad if we were the only passengers on this. However, we then had to go over to Swagman to collect the rest of the passengers and this is where all the problems began. First we tried to get them on our coach but there was not enough room so after shifting all the heavy bags onto the coach and asking people to change seats and move back down inside, when they finally realised, that we had more people that could comfortably fit on this coach or bus. So we then had to get back off this coach and onto a larger one with many of the Australian passengers complaining, surely they must have known how many people they had travelling today.

Continued on Manila Thread…..

Photo, (non sexual picture) of the school in Angeles City where your donations will end up, I can assure you this is not scam please give generously and do your bit to help.

Jazzy Daddy
03-17-05, 00:22
I'll be there in May, I was there last year and had a great time. It is amazing what a little respect and and understanding will buy in AC. Once you gain the girls respect(and can spot a scam)the sky is the limit and many will give themselves for free if treated like a lady.. I always stop in Manila first and do the Makati, LA Cafe, etc. tour and I 've been to the casino but have not taken girls out from there. Who is the contact person at the casino? Again, you've done some great reporting...

X Man
03-17-05, 03:20
Hello Junior,

Thanks for the trip reports. I didn't learn anything new, but it's great to reminisce.

What's the deal with that school? Is it a music school?

Does anyone else know of any worthy organizations that help people?

Member #1005
03-18-05, 15:56
What's the deal with that school? Is it a music school?

X Man

The school has a music facility but as with many things in the Philippines its in a bit of a poor state, but when the Clark base was there it used to receive funding from them but I guess these days it relies more on handouts rather than direct funding.

I would imagine that there are many other worthy causes in Angeles City, its depends where your heart is, hospitals, schools, animal welfare it's up to you to decide.


Juniour

Faust Joe
03-18-05, 18:27
I will be in AC from the 16th to the 23rd of April and want to meet up with some people from this board. Please send a PM letting me know if anyone would like to meet up.

X Man
03-22-05, 13:36
Last year during holiday In PI, I bought a used phone in Cebu City (based on advice I got here). Well, it was very good advice.

I live in Tokyo where we have a completely different cell phone system. When I visit the Philippines in April, will my phone and phone number still be working?

Someone told me there is an expiration date on the SIMM. Is that true?

Thanks.

** Sorry for the double post, but no one wants to answer this question on the "general" thread.

Member #1005
03-22-05, 16:55
X Man

Yes, a Smart sim will expire if there is no activity for 30 days, if you have no credit left on your sim. I am not sure what the situation is with Globe but I believe its much the same.


Juniour

Davao 01
03-23-05, 07:56
It's true that the simcard expires after 6 weeks, but it is easy and cheap to buy a new simcard. They sell it everywhere and the costs are only a few US Dollars.

Faust Joe
03-25-05, 05:28
In the middle of April, I will be making a second trip over to AC. The firt time I went, there wasn't much to do during the daytime. For those who been there plenty of times, what is there to do other than go to the bars and drink? Whats on Clark AFB. The first time I went I didn't go on base.

Khun Larry
03-25-05, 10:42
Guys, sorry if Im a bit confused, but I've been getting reports that a barfine is about 1,000 peso ($20 USD), so are you saying that you don't have to give the girl anything extra other than a modest TIP? If so, that is a bit different than I am used to in Thailand. In LOS, the barfine is about 300 baht ($8) and LT is 1,000 baht ($26) or $34 total before tip. Am I understanding this correctly? I've read the forum, but I seem see some conflicting reports and I also continue to have connection problems.

I heading to PI in April, so I thought I'd just check to be sure I've got things straight.Nef,

Yes you are correct, the BF in PI includes the girls fee. Just add a tip if the service is to your liking.

Also, I didn't find the girls as quick to scam you as in Thailand.

Chookdee

KL

Marconista
03-26-05, 00:40
Let me correct you here...

You say PI (ala RP), but what you are stating is about Angeles!
In Manila it is different. BF is one issue, paying the ladies another one.

Just wanted to make this clear, trying to avoid that the members think the Angeles routine is valid all over the RP.



Nef,

Yes you are correct, the BF in PI includes the girls fee. Just add a tip if the service is to your liking.

Also, I didn't find the girls as quick to scam you as in Thailand.

Chookdee

KL

Marconista
03-26-05, 00:43
How about if I want to keep the same number as I had before (on the old SIM-card)?


It's true that the simcard expires after 6 weeks, but it is easy and cheap to buy a new simcard. They sell it everywhere and the costs are only a few US Dollars.

Khun Larry
03-26-05, 00:58
Let me correct you here...

You say PI (ala RP), but what you are stating is about Angeles!
In Manila it is different. BF is one issue, paying the ladies another one.

Just wanted to make this clear, trying to avoid that the members think the Angeles routine is valid all over the RP.Thanks for the comment

I have no Idea about the Manilla scene.

Davao 01
03-26-05, 16:14
If your old phonecard is expired, you have to buy a new one. It expires mostly after not using the card for appr. 3 months.

If you want to test if your card is still okay, you have to ask the seller to send you a message. If it is still working, you know that you don't have to buy a new card.

X Man
03-28-05, 04:20
Back in July they were remodeling rooms at the America Hotel. Has anyone been there lately?

I like the place because of the big pool. A bit of a walk from dowtown AC, but is near cheap restaurants, laundry and daytime gogos.

Service is pretty spotty and the restaurant is only okay. The rooms that front the street can by noisy but they (at one time) had appropriately placed mirrors...which can be a waste of good mirror if you get a shy one who wants the lights off.

The only other place I stayed at was Orchid, but it's always a pain to get a reservation there.

Picture of hotel attached: 3rd floor room in the back with balcony over the pool; picture of pool from 3rd floor balcony. The restaurant is directly behind the pool chairs.

I don't remember how much, but I'm pretty sure it was less than 1000 pesos.

Faust Joe
04-01-05, 19:29
I've walked by the American Hotel and I agree, it is a long walk from the action. While I'm not an expert on AC, I would perfer to stay at Central Park Hotel due to its close proximity to Santos Str and Fields Ave. The only drawback to Central Park is lack of a pool.

Nightrider1
04-04-05, 14:35
I had my 4th trip to the Philippines in March and decided to try AC for a few days. Had Margarita Station pick me up in Manila and their service is good. Driver was right where they said he would be with my name on a whiteboard. Price had increased to 2000P but they blame the toll increase and higher fuel costs and thats understadable so i did'nt feel I was ripped off. He had cold San Migs in a cooler to make the ride to AC more pleasant and when we got there he took me around to the hotels until I found one that had an opening, which was above and beyond in my opinion. I stayed at the Clarkton way up on Fields a little far from the action but I did'nt mind. 7 peso jeepney ride will get you in the area and you get to mix with the locals too. Going back at night with a girl I always took a trike for 50 pesos but then time was of the essense,,lol,,. The hotel has a very nice pool and breakfast was good even though I can never make any filipino understand what " over easy " means. In 3 mornings straight I got me eggs sunny side up,turned over but yolks as hard as a brick, and the last morning they were scrambled. Oh well a small price to pay for being in pussy heaven. My choice of bars were either Champaign or Dirty Duck. I had great girls with nice attitudes from both locations and took the same girl out twice at Champaign. She allowed some nice pics but I gave my word they would be kept off the internet so sorry guys. Her name is Gretchen though and a real sweetie. After 4 nights I decided to go to Boracay for 3 days and it's easy to do as you can fly from Clark on Seair with a short stop in Manila. Boracay has beautiful beaches and great restraunts and nice places to stay. I stayed at the Orchid Resort which is very basic at 800 a night for a fan room but I only slept there so that was fine for me. For activities you have all the parasailing,jet sking,sailboating,snorkleing, and one day I went horseback riding when my body could'nt take more sun at the beach. I would say Boracay is a BYOB place though unless your a good looking young stud ( which I'm not ).

After Boracay I headed to Cebu which has become one of my favorite towns. i have met so many yahoo girls from there on the Cebu chat room and I always hook up with 2 or 3 each time I come back. I also leave myself a few days for trolling both the Ayala and SM malls and have always been lucky. After Cebu I took a 2 hour V hire ride to Moalboal to see the waterfalls and stayed for 3 more nights at the beach. Girls are available there at the local bars but quantity and quality can't compare to AC of course. If your a diver ( I am not ) Moalboal has a reputation of having great dive spots and lots of schools to teach you. I did do a 4 hour introductory dive and could not believe the beautiful fish and coral just 18 feet under the sea. I am considering taking the 4 day course on my next trip.

All in all a great trip of 24 days and am already planning another in Aug.

Hesekiels
04-04-05, 18:42
Bar Fines:

I have tried to make a point of visiting as many of the bar in AC to get a realistic idea of bar fines, since on the board there are mixed messages about the bar fines. Yes, it’s a tough job but someone’s got to do it.

Contrary to other places when you pay a bar fine here you don’t need to agree an additional price with the girl. Tip only if you want to, but usually the girls will tell you that’s its up to you what you want to pay or how long they can stay for. So your best bet is to bring some small presents for the girls and they all like chocolate and treat them right but them dinner or drinks. Most girls will stay all night and will usually have breakfast with you. The bar fine varies between 1000 Pesos and 1250 – 3000 Pesos for the spotlight dancer in the DollHouse. Many guys come up here bar fine a girl they like for several days and take them to Boracay or wherever takes your fancy Cebu, Hong Kong, Paris?

Note: In a bar dancers, door girls, waitresses and if you really fancy it the mamasan can all be bar fined, although I have never seen anyone actually bar fine a mamasan.

Bars Charging:

1250 Pesos

Hi Juniour,

how much tip on top of the barfine would be adequate when the girl stays overnight?

Hesekiels

Pute Nut
04-05-05, 00:12
Did you ever bother to check it out during your "AC visit"?

Pool is located immediately to the left when you've passed the guard/gate. Can't miss it.

Member #1005
04-05-05, 20:38
how much tip on top of the barfine would be adequate when the girl stays overnight?

Hesekiels

It really depends on the quality of the service, whether the girl wants to rush the job or take her time. Generally, if the girl stays overnight you should buy her breakfast and if you are planning to see her again, not too much money really. I would give them taxi money and a small gift of some chocolates but, it depends on the service. Having said that, I still do have a good relationship with some of the girls, so (I hope) they have no ill-will towards me.

But generally we are talking about a realistic figure of around 250 pesos, but only if the girls ask directly for money. If not I always offer some taxi or tricycle fare on their departure.

Remember, if you look after the girls and treat them right they will come back and give it away for free.


Juniour

J Boy
04-06-05, 06:38
Did you ever bother to check it out during your "AC visit"?

Pool is located immediately to the left when you've passed the guard/gate. Can't miss it.

Central Park is a great hotel but to call that tiny thing a pool is a real stretch - maybe a wading pool. Also, people hang out at the real pools but not at Central Park's pool. I have heard they may enlarge it.

Samar Dog
04-11-05, 11:25
Will be in Angeles later this week to visit my girl there. Would like to know what clubs (if any) are known to have girls that are into girl-girl action. I want to give my girlfriend the kinkiest birthday present yet! If it happens, will try to do my duty and snap a few shots for the record.

Shekwan
04-14-05, 23:47
Anyone stayed there recently?

Comments?

Sting
04-15-05, 07:16
hi guys

i am going to the ph soon and i want go to cebu. do you have any information about hotels, beach, entertainment, price offers etc

thanks in advance

sting

J Boy
04-15-05, 15:21
Will be in Angeles later this week to visit my girl there. Would like to know what clubs (if any) are known to have girls that are into girl-girl action. I want to give my girlfriend the kinkiest birthday present yet! If it happens, will try to do my duty and snap a few shots for the record.

Try Treasure Island - right across the street from Kokomos.

White Croc
04-30-05, 11:28
Can somebody here advice me on where to get good massage in AC and the price please. Thanks

Timber Tree
05-02-05, 04:58
Roman Spa is OK but the rooms are pretty bad P550 for the Roman Suite. I would say crappy. Most of the AC in the rooms are broken, and with the heat and humidity the fan does not help at all. The showers are below standards. Now that I think about it it looks like a low end brothel.

Though, I had some of the better massages in this place. The girls will ask for extra services. Just make sure to ask if they give good massages not extra services, if you really want the massage first and sex later.

I suggest to keep it down to P500 tip for the full service.

Some slang in the MP:
Putok - means pops, (you know what I mean).

Member #1005
05-02-05, 21:19
White Croc

On massage parlours in Angeles City there are not really any good one, I am talking about places on the scale of AF1 or Starfleet in Manila.

In AC there is not much of demand for a good MP especially when there are so many girls on offer generally. I have tried two, on my recent visits but they were nothing special, best to wait until you’re back in Manila.


Juniour

Hesekiels
05-03-05, 21:27
On massage parlours in Angeles City there are not really any good one, I am talking about places on the scale of AF1 or Starfleet in Manila.

In AC there is not much of demand for a good MP especially when there are so many girls on offer generally. I have tried two, on my recent visits but they were nothing special, best to wait until you’re back in Manila.

Juniour,

Is there a good place in AC you could recommend for picking up a girl (ST) at - let's say - 3 p.m.? In the afternoon all the bars there are still closed if I am not mistaken? Your advice is highly appreciated!

Hesekiels

J Boy
05-04-05, 14:43
Hesekiels
Most of the bars on Perimeter Rd [maybe all] are open in the afternoon. I recommend Touch of Class and Niftys. The others are probably fine too but I haven't been to them.

In the main bar area, the new bar, Doll House, is open 24 hours.

Hi Rub
05-05-05, 16:02
Hi,

I'm going to AC for Memorial Day weekend and plan on attending the famous pool party. I was hoping you kind gents could post some advice or stories of past pool parties.

Also can you take the girls for S/T or L/T, standard prices? I imagine they would want to keep as many girls there as possible untill its over. Do these girls work in A/C, or are they brought in specially for the event?

Pute Nut
05-11-05, 20:09
Central Park is a great hotel but to call that tiny thing a pool is a real stretch - maybe a wading pool. Also, people hang out at the real pools but not at Central Park's pool. I have heard they may enlarge it.Oh yeah? Like into the lobby or what?

J Boy
05-12-05, 17:01
Oh yeah? Like into the lobby or what?

I understand the new Central Park pool is to go where the squatter shops were torn down in January - between Central Park and Orchid Inn.

Red Cork
05-15-05, 20:10
Hello all fellow pooners,

I will be in P.I. in a couple weeks , a few days in Manilla. Then to Angeles to find my pearl in the rough. What is a good beach resort or bungalow area to go to once this pearl or pearls have been found? do i need to go all the way to Boracay or is there something nice, close by? What is the cost of taking a girl away from her work for a few days? barfine? and girl rate?

Faust Joe
05-16-05, 16:12
J Boy, its possible the pool could be going there. When I was there a few weeks ago, the lot was empty except for a mount of dirt and a trailer. Central Park has also torn down the bar which was next to the stairway. Big changes are happening at Central Park but I was to busy with my Honey Ko to ask what was happening.

X Man
05-17-05, 08:45
Red Cork,

Batangas (I don't know much about this place) If anyone has been there, could you post more information.
http://www.batangasnow.com/

Puerto Galera or Subic Bay. This site was put up by a diver. Lots of water pictures and he obviously picks up a girl now and then.
http://www.single-adventure-tours.com/2000/boracay2002.html

Kinky Smart
05-26-05, 00:32
had a fantastic time. i can highly recommend the orchid inn http://www.orchid-inn.com/ the room was spacious, well appointed, clean, fluffy towels, friendly staff - for about what i paid for a fleabag with stained carpets in manila. i paid pp2500 for the room, which is their mid-level room with high speed internet access (actually had to do some work while i was there). outlets are clearly marked as 220 or 110 volt, even.

i was there on a monday night, but it was quiet and once the fun was over, i got a good night's sleep. also, they had a car and driver ready for a last minute decision to hire them to take me to the manila airport (still 2200 despite recent gas price increases).

i am going back, i will be staying there again. it was a great hotel experience, not just as a recreation area - i'd stay there if it was in dallas. but as a recreation area, there isn't even so much as a funny glance when you take the girl back past security. it's just a comfortable place. out by the pool, the cook will grill you up some stuffed squid for a reasonable price for a good dinner before seeing the sights.

also, the blue nile and champaign are all good for the girlies, but when you are ready to have a beer with some truly great guys, winchester bar is excellent, friendly, and has some dirty, dirty girls.

looking forward to a longer trip next time,

t.

Spam Hog
05-26-05, 05:04
Any body been to Lolly pops? Know the girlks well? if so give me a PM.

Thanx,

Spamhog

Ekspat
06-08-05, 11:13
Most of the bars on Perimeter Rd [maybe all] are open in the afternoon. I recommend Touch of Class and Niftys.Right, they open latest 1pm.

Once I had an excellent BJ at the bar and ST in a place called somewhat like "Matrix". The name isn't complete, I forgot the rest, but it's only a minute walk from Nifty's.

Cheers!

Pute Nut
06-10-05, 00:51
Sounds like Matrix Brawn (sic)

Mr Majik
06-10-05, 12:32
Anyone in town next weekend want to hook up for a drink at the local "establishment".

I buy the first couple of rounds.

Red Cork
06-11-05, 22:18
i know this subject has been here before but i am still a bit confused.
i have credit cards galore , and direct debit cards for most north american banks. i am canadian and have used the direct debit many times world wide , in thailand never a problem. i don't really want to be packing large amounts of cash around or be leaving cash in room. are there lots of direct debit cash machines , or even a few? if i can access a machine every couple of days then that would be kool.
happy pooning brothers,

Member #1005
06-11-05, 22:37
i know this subject has been here before but i am still a bit confused.
i have credit cards galore , and direct debit cards for most north american banks.

Red Cork

Try reading this thread, it answers all your questions,www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=344504&postcount=539

In this day and age there are but a handful of countries that require cash, thankfully, I have no reasons to visit many of them.

Juniour

Iceman27
06-16-05, 12:49
Anyone in town next weekend want to hook up for a drink at the local "establishment".

I buy the first couple of rounds.

Majik,

I arrive AC on the 18th. Will be at the Orchid. Leave a message on the board on the wall by the pool bar. We can hook up for a beer or two. You can ask for Iceman or Doctor Steve. See you there.

Ekspat
06-21-05, 06:13
We can hook up for a beer or two. You can ask for Iceman or Doctor Steve. You should have posted it a bit earlier, I was also around 17th to 19th.

Aloha mates,

all together a relaxing and well performed weekend in Angeles. Fri to Sun.

After arriving I called a girl, got a fine BBBJ (500P) with CIM for relaxing, she left, then I had some food and beer.

Drove with Jeepney to Friendship gate and walked back.

Had a look in some clubs along the stretch but they weren't that convincing.

Ended up in Rio. Went up with young girl for an agreed BBBJ, she said she's Cherrygirl and no bumbum, no problem with me, BBBJ is fine.

She said CIM no problem, I did so and loaded off in her mouth.

Huuuuh, she wasn't used to it, run out and washed.

Anyway, job done!

Some good beer and looklook later on.

No LT.

After breakfast on Sat going for a ST in a bar in Santos Street, BBBJ excellent.

Later I took a girl LT outta Lancelot 22y/o, firm body, average looking, worth the money.

Not much difference compared with my visits in April and May, but Club Rio has become quite stingy with the sample-BJ's. Customer should buy at least 3 LD's, okay then, otherwise nono. Huh??!!?? Whats that?

IMHO always worth a visit is Lancelot, many girls and if you're not too late it shouldn't be a problem to find a pearl in the rough.

Cheers!

Red Cork
07-02-05, 00:23
thanks juniour for all the usefull info. but you said you would not to anywhere that you had to use cash , and it still seems tha angeles city is one of them? correct me if i read wrong , but there seems to be only one or 2 atm cash machines in the area and is empty during busy weekends and high times? you have to load up on cash in manilla when going to angeles. seems pretty weird to me. you would think with all the bars in the area they would get it together and get atm's everywhere! if its easy to access your cash then there wiill obviously be much more of it around. if any of you bar owners read this , maybe you should meet with the competition and do yourselves a favour and get more cash in town.
see you all in a few weeks.
happy pooning

Devil Doc
07-05-05, 03:20
I will arrive in Angeles 1st of August and I will stay in Orchid Inn. Is anyone else going to be there?

Ern123
07-05-05, 22:48
Maybe it's because I'm swedish, but I don't understand this tip-thing, which is so common among my americans friends.

Why give a ***** more money for her job?

A *****'s salary is already so much higher then other normal payed jobs, why make it even better?

If you feel bad for the poverty of the country, believe me - you shouldn't give your money to a *****, it makes no differens whatsoever.Why don't give your money to the cleaninglady(I do) or your average factoryworker? Or why not save the children? Or anyone whos tries, not to the laziest person on earth - a *****.

No, you keep insisting spoiling the *****s, for what? To say that you appriciate the way she sucked your cock?

Do you think she cares, next hour she's out sucking the next one, and laughs at the stupid gringo who tipped her for doing nothing.

But with one differens, she got more attitude now, and thinks she deserves that money everytime.

Now the no tipping antagonists starts shouting - Oh, you are only a cheap charlie!
Well, **** you.

I'm not cheap, and I got money!

I just know how to spend it well, and on people who deserves it. I know you feel like a king because the girl gives you an extre smile for your extra money - but newsflash, she's only smiling at your stupidity, laughing at you in your face.

At your bad confidence, and your newly rich manner. Don't ever think nothing else.
Anyway, all you non tippers. Keep up the good work, and spend your money on people that deserves it.

And have a great time!

Ekspat
07-06-05, 11:09
>To say that you appriciate the way she sucked your cock?

Yeah, some sort of.


Laughs at the stupid gringo who tipped her for doing nothing. Let her laugh. They haven't much to laugh usually. And since I'm on unlimited budget, what are we talking about? 2USD? 5 or 10USD? Who cares about such peanuts?

Faust Joe
07-06-05, 17:38
I understand exactly what ern123 is saying. If a women charges 1500 pesos to sleep with you and you give her a 200 tip she will come to expect it everytime. For example, I have a friend who lives in the PI and he brings gifts from the States when he returns back to the PI. Before I arrived in the PI, the girls I met online were asking for gifts.

On the otherhand I do understand Ekspat. What is 2, 5 or 10 dollars, nothing. But just think somepeople were unset when the bar fines went from 1000 peso to 1500 peso. Whats that $5. After a while the natives will think, hell if $5 is nothing how about another $5. Then it will continue untill it is out of control.

Stop tipping, the women have already figured the tip in the cost.

Flying Scotsman
07-06-05, 22:17
You really have a bug up your ass about tipping dont you..!! You posted the exact same report on the AC message board. Has a girl upset you? Why cant you just accept the fact that most guys tip. If we didn't the prices would undoubtedly rise as the girls only get a percentage of the barfine. Sure the girls expect a tip but you are within your rights not to tip if you are unhappy with the service. There are so many cheap charlies on these boards that really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.

Jeez and they say the Scots are mean.

flying scotsman

Fastpiston
07-08-05, 03:13
I agree with ern123.
I think the best lesson to learn about tipping is that is raises expectations and subsequently translates into a right. In one upper market AC bar, one waitress got all huffy because I chose not to tip her for doing nothing other than getting me a Coke. When she asked me for a tip I responded: 'what for?' Clearly she had been spoilt by some falangs living the illusion of Mr. Big Money Guys!
In the US try having you bags taken to your hotel room and not tipping! Remember how guys from one very rich East Asian country ruined the markets through heavy tips when their currency was strong! Girls swarmed around them at that time, caring nothing of others. We live in a finely balanced market - don't create distortions and make our fellow mongers suffer.
My message is don't tip unless the girl FAR exceeds Standard performance - you know what I mean... On the point of the tips being 'small', I would ask 'small' relative to what country? Please compare apples with apples. Filipinos tip in restaurants only if there are a few small coins in the bill change. When I left a note once, the Filipino I was eating with, picked it up and gave it back to me saying 'don't start that'.

On The Go
07-08-05, 03:37
I whole heartedly agree with Fastpiston and ern123 when it comes to tipping. It has always been my position that a tip is extended to someone for superior services. If it was for any other reason what is the purpose?. A tip is a reward and to get the reward you better offer something above what your job or position entails, otherwise it only becomes part of the price of the service being provided. It has nothing to do with being cheap as stated by Flying Scotsman. I would like to believe that he would be rational enough to understand this. Tipping has become something expected not earned and it is up to us to do something about it.

Ekspat
07-08-05, 04:11
There are so many cheap charlies on these boards that really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.Yes, it seems so

Anyway, I'm still single and dont know whether and when I get married and having kids or not. At least I know that I can't take my money with me when I leave that planet.

So I simply feel better with huge tips and a smiling girl leaving the room. Thats it. And whether she might think I'm a stupid gringo/falang/angmo/, I don't give a damn.

"I dont pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave" (Jack Nicholson)

Cheers!

Mc Fly XXX
07-13-05, 16:20
Hi all,

I know I have gotta ask the mammasan for special girls providing three hole service - but from your vast experience - is there a special place to find those girls on a regular basis in AC?

Thx,

McFlyXXX

Small Man
07-14-05, 15:46
I don't know about a regular place...but I had a great time with a girl named Christian from Dirty Ducks. Probably the best 3-holer I have ever had. Not sure if she is still there, this was last December. Good luck and let us know how your research turns out!

Ekspat
07-15-05, 08:46
but I had a great time with a girl named Christian from Dirty Ducks. Probably the best 3-holer I have ever had. Christian sounds a bit male to me, but who knows?

You are sure "she" had 3 holes or might be 2 only?

(Nose and ears to be excluded)

:-)

Cheers!

_________________________________________________
Sex is like air, it's unimportant unless you aren't getting any.

Ekspat
07-20-05, 10:18
Hi mates,

I'll be in Angeles again 10th to 14th August.

For having a drink or maybe 10, just pm me a line.

Cheers! :-)

Man In Japan
07-21-05, 03:07
I will arrive in Angeles 1st of August and I will stay in Orchid Inn. Is anyone else going to be there?DD,

I will be in AC on August 6th for the Christmas in August benefit at the Roadhouse. I will probably stay at the Wild Orchid down the street then back to Manila.

Several members from a "competing forum" will be in town for this event, you should definately not miss it.

If you need the true information on the PI, pm me and I'll give you the links.

Bubbagoes100
07-24-05, 01:41
A bit off the subject fellas, but does anyone know of a airline that flies from Manila to Phnon Phen?
Bubba

Cebu Local
07-24-05, 03:40
A bit off the subject fellas, but does anyone know of a airline that flies from Manila to Phnon Phen?
Bubba
Yes,Malaysian via KL,Singapore via Singapore

Fast Eddie 48
07-24-05, 04:08
A bit off the subject fellas, but does anyone know of a airline that flies from Manila to Phnon Phen?
BubbaNo direct flight that I know of: Thai Airway - transfer at Bangkok

That will be a very good trip.

Fast Eddie 48

Boo Bradley
07-24-05, 15:16
The August 2005 issue of GQ (the one with Johnny Knoxville on the cover) is the start of a three-part sex trade series. This first issue is all about Angeles city. Just FYI.

J Ride
07-26-05, 19:29
Hi guys, I'm taking my first trip to the PI next month. I'll be arriving in Manila and staying in the country for one-week. I could really use some advice from the PI veterans out there. Should I stay in Manila or B-line it to Angeles City? I kind of expect to do the latter. Also, what is the most efficient way to get to Angeles city from Manila? I'd prefer to cab it if it's not prohibitive by cost. Price and travel time? Where is a good place to stay price wise, cleanliness wise and by the action? I've browsed through some of the suggestions like American Hotel and Orchard. Any other suggestions? Thanks a bunch guys, I look forward to pillaging the pussy. If you guys have any Thailand questions I'll be glad to help! =)

Genghois
07-27-05, 13:36
Do both! At least that's my plan, for early September. B-line to Angeles then back to Manila. Four days in each. I'm also a first timer to Phil, though not to SE Asia.

J Boy
07-27-05, 15:46
Since you are a newbie and will only have one week I suggest Angeles. Everthing is contained in a small area - maybe 50 bars and 100s of girls.

Hotel: This depends on your buget. I will seperate the hotels into 3 categories; Expensive, Moderate and Low Price. All rates bellow are in US dollars.

EXPENSIVE: Orchard Inn has been the leader. They now have a second more expensive place Wild Orchid that has moved into the number one spot. Orchid Inn junior suites in the Jasmine Wing run $45 a night. At Wild Orchid I understand they are $60 to 80

MODERATE: Central Park is just as nice as Orchid Inn but has no pool. Rooms are about $25 a night. Kokomos is a good choice although some guys complain about noise.

LOW PRICE: I don't really know this category but I understand there are some bargains a short distance from the main bar district. I prefer to stay close and for a newbie it is a big advantage to be able to walk everywhere safely.

Have fun!!!

Fast Eddie 48
07-28-05, 04:12
Hi guys, I'm taking my first trip to the PI next month. I'll be arriving in Manila and staying in the country for one-week. I could really use some advice from the PI veterans out there. Should I stay in Manila or B-line it to Angeles City? I kind of expect to do the latter. Also, what is the most efficient way to get to Angeles city from Manila? I'd prefer to cab it if it's not prohibitive by cost. Price and travel time? Where is a good place to stay price wise, cleanliness wise and by the action? I've browsed through some of the suggestions like American Hotel and Orchard. Any other suggestions? Thanks a bunch guys, I look forward to pillaging the pussy. If you guys have any Thailand questions I'll be glad to help! =)PJ,

I think you should go to Manila first stay 3-4 day. Check out the mall and
do some shopping. Check out bar in Malate and Makiti at nite.

Angeles is a dirty city with not a whole lot to do in the day time. If you like the beach or like to scuba dive, Cebu or Boracay is great if you have the time.

Angeles Hotel American is a good hotel with a nice pool a bit far from field bar area walking is 15 min . central hotel is in the mid of the action room is smaller than american. never stay at orchild they are full last time .

Fast Eddie 48.

PM me if you need more help.

J Ride
07-28-05, 17:35
Thanks for the info fellas. Central Park Hotel sounds like the place for me. I really need to keep on budget and $25 a nite sounds good at this point. Again, I appreciate the recommendations and if you guys have anymore please share them. =)

Devil Doc
07-29-05, 03:44
Well, the time is near. I leave for AC on Saturday for a week of fun. I am taking my computer this time and will try to post everyday. The last time I was there in February 05. The doll house had just open. I was there the first night it open. I had a great time there with the girls between 5 and 9 am. I was the only customer. Is the Dollhouse still open 24 hours? I hope so. I am like to hae somewere to go after the last club closes at 5 am.

I sleep during the day. There is not much to do during the day in AC.

Will one more day to work and off I go.

Devil Doc

Qualo
08-08-05, 08:17
What's it like over Christmas and New Year? Absolutley jam packed with guys, and girls gone home to visit families? Or business as usual? Would I need to book hotel in advance for whole trip? Do prices rise?

Thanks

edit: also flights from UK are looking very expensive at that time of year- any tips on how/where to find a good deal?

Ekspat
08-09-05, 11:06
I sleep during the day. There is not much to do during the day in AC.DD,

The bars in Perimeter Road open as early as 12pm or latest 1pm. I usually get up at 11am, take a good breakfast and start the day there. That's my to-do at daytime! :-)

Cheers!

Bubbagoes100
08-09-05, 16:31
On my one trip (so far) to Angeles I stayed at the Orchid, I liked it but for my next trip I'm considering the Swagman Hotel. Does anyone have any experience with this one?
Bubbagoes

Columpuss
08-11-05, 05:31
Bubba,

Swagman is far from the center of the action and the place is old, rate is not that reasonable for such a place. Check out balibago.com, has some suggestions on there. good luck

Pathologic
08-12-05, 04:28
Swagman is ok, but a bit away from the action. Orchid is also good, but I find they're pricey compared to what else is on offer. I recently stayed in the Chicago Park, which is almost next door to the Orchid i.e. great location. Quality about the same as the Orchid and half the price.

Pathologic
08-12-05, 04:30
My mistake. The hotel used to be called the Chicago Park, now renamed the Central Park.

Hesekiels
08-15-05, 15:12
Hello friends:

When I was in Angeles two weeks ago I wanted to visit as many bars as possible, but for me it was somehow 'mission impossible'! Latest in bar #6 or so I could not resist, barfined one or two girls and went back to my hotel. However, my time in AC was extraordinary good and the memories keep rolling.

A very special thank goes herewith to 'Ekspat' who gave me some useful hints for bridging the (boring) daytime and to 'Juniour' who never failed to support me with a great piece of advice. His 'coaching' during my time there I will never forget! Here some personal impressions at a glance:

Flamingo:
Somehow boring. No attractive girls around and the place looks a little grotty compared to other bars. Papasan 'Tango' is also an odd ball!

Blue Nile:
Always much too crowded, but many cuties on stage.

Bananitas:
Good place although the dancers can be very pushy in terms of ladies drinks.

Champangne:
I like this place. The atmosphere there is great and the waitresses are always very, very friendly. I was there twice and amazingly I never barfined a dancer, but two waitresses!

Nero:
Bad luck! I invited two dancers for a ladies drink but both were 'cherry girls' and refused 'boom-boom'. My third option had her menstruation. Well, maybe I am already too old or too ugly, who knows!? :)

Lancelot:
After 'Nero' at least my chance to find somebody for that very night. A waitress called 'Margie' had mercy and ... was simply great! She left after breakfast.

Las Vegas:
Was almost empty when I came in. Many young dancers on stage and my choices were, what else ... 'cherry girls'!

Brown Sugar:
My favourite place now! Great sound system, perfect line up! I spent there hours and hours. Great waitresses and cute dancers. I barfined 'Jasmin' and 'Liza' who both gave me a real GFE. Simply ask mamasan 'Sonja' and she will recommend somebody who exactly meets your wishes! Super service!!!

Wish all of you a good time in AC!


Hesekiels

Ekspat
08-17-05, 07:36
What's it like over Christmas and New Year? Absolutley jam packed with guys, and girls gone home to visit families? Or business as usual?Thats an excellent question. For XXX-mas and NYE I'm considering Angeles, Manila, Jakarta or Phnom Penh currently.

Really nobody knows?

Okay, I'll be back in Angeles in September, so I will ask some people. I'll report then.

Cheers!

Member #1005
08-24-05, 19:22
The August 2005 issue of GQ (the one with Johnny Knoxville on the cover) is the start of a three-part sex trade series. This first issue is all about Angeles city. Just FYI.

I had some time recently to read and re-read this article and found it, to say the least "interesting". Whilst it was OK I don't think anyone reading that should take it as a true reflection of the scene in AC. It's more for entertainment but not 100% truthful.

I did wondered if the journalist Sean Flynn actually went to AC, because first of he describes it as being just an hour northwest of Manila, which surprised me because the best time I have managed to reach there myself, is a tad over two and a quarter hours and have heard of people getting there from Manila in two hours in the early hours of the morning, after jumping off these 11pm flights into Manila.

Second, he correctly states the term "barfines" but then goes on to say they are, in the bars of AC, 1000 Pesos which he states equates to only $9 which at current rates would actually be closer to $18. I wonder if he had meant sterling pounds, which is nearer to £9? The thing about the barfines in AC is that they are now around 1200 Pesos (U$21/£12) mark. What concerns me is that now many guys will now be busily booking their airline tickets on Expedia and making their way to AC expecting to pay the equivalent of $9 (500 Pesos) for the services of some nubile young Filippina beauty queen, all night long, but not in AC.

The other thing I wanted to point out about this article is this view that the bars are filled with hoards of 13 year old girls armed with fake ids that the mamasans are happy to accept for them to work there, who then cater to the hundreds of paedophiles who go to AC every year. I think this is a gross exaggeration, and total utter nonsense! I have met many girls of 24-year-old girls without their licence who simply could not work. As many of you are aware in the Philippines many 19 year olds look like 15 year old, so I imagine that a 13 year old must look like a 9 year old?? Plus, anyone who had actually stayed in AC for any time will no doubt be amazed at breakfast time at the amount of guys who come down for breakfast with their latest conquests in tow, who are usually tapping out their text message over breakfast as they pass on the blow by blow accounts of what they are doing right now to their friends. And let me assure you these are not young girls, some of these women are in their mid to late 30's - but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Earlier this year a British newspaper also wrote a sensational article about AC but the angle they took was that a several British bar owners were ruling the roost in AC and made reference to a couple of people, mentioned in Sean's article, as the driving force behind the many businesses now sprouting up in AC. I do recall the "Coalition Against Trafficking in Women" last September 2004, when I was in town, who stood out a bit from your typical mongers from early afternoon to the evening armed with their clipboards and walking around in a group of six in their religious like attire. The problem is that whenever you pay someone for information or their story they feel obliged to deliver, it's human nature. I am not saying that shit doesn't go on there in AC because like everywhere else in the Philippines, if you have money in your pocket you can get, within reason, whatever you want, but let's not portray AC to be anything other than a seedy little dirt town filled with some interesting bars and many many girls and a great place to be if you're a single guy with money in your pocket. Angeles City is Angeles City and many girls come here from all parts of the Philippines because they know they can find a job, it's the type of place where girls will start off in bars but many will move onto high end places like Manila where they can earn far more than what's on offer in AC or even end up Japan, if they get one of the 18,000 entertainment licenses on offer.


This article is an interesting read and not a factual document of what goes on and l suggest you take it was a tablespoon of salt, couple of slices of lime and large shots of tequila. However, if you want "real" information and the DL on Angeles City just RTFF

The two characters in the article, the fat guy and the skinny kid were spot on - I wondered who that could have been, I know who my money's on. :D

Columpuss
08-25-05, 06:50
Juniour,

The article was written by a "journalist" who probably studied journalism in college, the kind of degree you choose when you are not accepted by any other schools because of your stupidity. Just watch FOX, CNN, or your local news and you know how screwed up they are.

LoveAsianWhores
08-25-05, 14:38
First some background. I live in Manila and make it to AC every couple of months. I have been going to AC off and on for the past 8 years. In Manila, I will typically barfine about 20 girls a month.

Anyway, my trip in August was typical - 3 cute girls i two days. My trip this Monday and Tuesday was FAR different from any other trip - 0 girls in two days.

I started out at 6:00 as I know that to get the cute girls you have to start early before someone else barfines them. I try to hit as many bars as possible before about 10:00, when the pickings get slim. The problem was that while I still found one or two cute girls in each bar, they were ALL cherry gilrs, and I mean every last one of them. I had hit about 25 bars by 10:00, but every cute girl was a cherry girl. These cherry girls were just like the girls I barfine every day in Manila, except they claim to be virgins and want about 50,000 pesos. In the past I have always come across many cherry girls, but never found anything close to ALL the girls being cherry girls.

The first issue is that if these girls really are virgins, why are only the cute ones virgins. What happens after they "lose their cherry"? Since most virgins that lose their virginity in a bar become bar girls, there should be some ex-cherry girls working (at least one!!) In Manila, I regularly find girls who really did just lost their cherry, and they are just cute as when they were vigins (I go to bars so often here that I find many real cherry girls, and find the same girls at a later date working in the same bar as regular bar girls - and I almost always barfine them). Therefore, it is pretty clear that most cherry girls in Angeles are not virgins.

The biggest issue is why this change was so sudden. I know it is not just my perception because in this trip I went with 3 other people - one who had been to AC before, and two for whom it was their first trip. Everyone said that ALL the cute girls were cherry girls, and had either no luck or very little luck finding girls (but all had no problem in Manila). One in the group ended up paying 50,000, as he found it was the only way to fuck a cute girl. Also, a friend of mine who lives out here went a couple of weeks ago and had the same problem. He ended up barfining 5 cherry girls in the hope that maybe one of them would fuck him, but ended up having to pay 20,000 just to get laid from a cherry girl.

I barfined a cherry girl the second night, as I figured it was better to at least try with someone cute, then to fuck some ugly *****. Now, I may have only had one real virgin in my life, but I have banged hundreds of bargirls - and this was just your typical bargirl. She had this whole routine in the bed "ohh, you are the first guy to ever touch my nipples - they are only for you", "I am not interested in losing my cherry for money, I want it to be with someone I can love, and I think that person is you". As we started to make out, she excused herself to the bathroom. She didn't use the toilet, but I heard her zip undo, some fiddling around, and then she came out (did she put something inside her?) We then continued to make out and she said, "I want you to be the first, but the mamasan would be very mad at her if she lost her cherry without some money". This only confirmed my suspicions, that every cute girl in town had figured it was much easier to pretend to be a virgin for 50,000, then to fuck some stranger every night for 600 (her cut of the barfine).


I don't know why this change happend so sudden, but it appears to have something to do with a term we use in business called critical mass. In this case, at a certain point such a large percentage of the girls have started playing the game, the rest fall. If they don't, they will just get banged at 6:01 every night for 600 pesos, while the competition is fucking maybe one guy every couple of months and making more money. Bars have no choice but to follow as because so many other bars are playing this game. If they don't, the cute girls will just go to a bar that lets them pretend to be cherry girls.

But the point is, right now, AC is dead. Unless you are on a budget and can only afford 1,200 Peso for a fuck, there is no reason to go there. If you can find 2,500 to 3,000, you will have much better quality in Manila.

Domino
08-25-05, 15:07
Thanks for the cherry picking information. It just confirms my theory that tourist haunts are best left alone. It is not just the almost $1,000 asking charge. Did I get that right, btw as that sounds high by any standards? It is an interesting restraint of trade move (Maybe get the WTO to move on this). Obviously the suppliers have to maximize their take but who needs shit like that? Obviously the tourists have messed it up but who needs lazy tourists who can only bus it up from Manila? I figure the best deals are far away from Manila and the tourists. This is the same as Thailand where prices in Bangkok get higher and higher and the service gets worse and worse. You have to go to where the rate you pay is big money and is not easily landed. Angeles is not that place.
Junior hints that entertainers flock to Angeles before moving on to the promised land of Japan. Japayuki are recruited all over the Pi. Or were. From January 1 to March 14, 25,715 Filipino entertainers entered Japan. But from March 15 to May 31, only 291 were allowed in. We gotta keep Japan safe from them.
Sean Flynn probably did his article with a few phone calls and the do gooders are god are giving erroneous information to lazy journalists and policy makers. Still, Angeles seems a dump, a real one trick town where prices have gone through the roof for some pre loved virgins.

J Boy
08-25-05, 16:49
Love Asian *****s

I'm sorry but I think you made the whole thing up.

Kimochi
08-25-05, 17:17
LAW, well put. I noticed that as well on my trip last month to AC. Lot's of so called "cherry girls". Somewhat disappointed with the non-cherry talent that was available. I didn't bother even bar fining them (the cherry girls) as I figured they were pulling the old bullshit and probably thought I was some stupid Japanese or Taiwanese tourist looking to pay top$$ for a virgin. Spent two nites in AC and beelined it back to Manila. Sure its pricier than AC, but at least the quality is better.

Maybe the AC veterans can tell us, but has AC changed that much for the worse? I've noticed a number of Koreans, Japanese, and maybe chinese roaming around. Also noted the direct flights now from Seoul and HK to Clark. Is the asian invasion screwing up the AC market and thus the sudden spike in so called "cherry girls"?

Domino - I really doubt the Japanese "entertainers" were getting recruited in AC. Sorry but the typical AC gal is far from the type Japanese like. I've spent a good number of years in Tokyo and have been taken to some of the better to average Philippino clubs in Tokyo by Japanese and Filipino friends, and a lot of them are the mestizo model types or like the ones you find in the top clubs in Quezon city. But then who knows, maybe the ones from AC get sent to the sticks in Japan or to the bars in Wanchai HK ;) Anyways, you would figure with the Japanese market pretty much closed, it would be a buyers market in PI... or (gulp) are they staying home and trying to milk "Japanese" prices :o

Or maybe they've moved on to Singapore or somewhere else? Time to check the other forums.

Don't mean to sound too negative about AC. You got to admit the regular prices are cheap and places like Blue Nile seemed to have some better than average but they went quick as the nite went on. But again, this observation is from an AC noob who was there for a quick 2 day trip.

Oh I've put some pictures up of one of the gals I ended up barfining. Forget the name of the club but it was one of the smaller clubs on the main drag

Mahku
08-25-05, 17:33
I've just heard from friends who were in AC in the last week. They don't mention anything about this.

LoveAsianWhores
08-25-05, 18:51
Love Asian *****s

I'm sorry but I think you made the whole thing up.


Love Asian *****s

I'm sorry but I think you made the whole thing up.


The great thing about this forum is that you can click on someones name and read all their prior posts. J-boy's are all one or two line moronic posts such as the one above. Not a single informative post in the past year, just stupid questions that any regular Philippines traveler would know such as "are there any hotels within walking distance from LA Cafe". However, he does sometimes provide really profound information such the name of hotel in Angeles or the price of barfine. Not a single piece of original information in any of his posts, but some interesting ones about how this guy can't cum.

If you take a look at mine, you'll notice I put a lot of effort into reporting the best and worst of Manila. I am out almost every night and never fail to report information that the members of this forum can use.

Hesekiels
08-25-05, 22:23
LAW:

I really like your report about 'cherry girls', but I do believe that it does not matter at all whether they are 'real' virgins, or just pretenders who want to make big money by telling us a cock and bull story! So, I would totally agree with you that it is most advisable to avoid them, simply in order to save oneself from disappointment, wasting money or even a 'dirty, bloody job'. However, during my recent stay in AC I have seen lots of very cute 20 years old 'non-cherries' on stage who were pleased to satisfy customers like us. And this even at 1 a.m. and for 1.200 pesos barfine! No doubt, it is still worth to go there!

Hesekiels

Candyman2005
08-26-05, 14:23
I can't believe that all the beauty queens in AC would act as if they were cherries, it seems to me like they would be losing money. How many of you fellas are going to spend more than the normal price, I would think not many, it's going to take a real stunner to get me to go over the normal price of 1000-1200 pesos.

Any way me and a couple of my partners will be traveling to AC from the 9th-17th of Sep, we are going to try and put together a pool party, so if any of you are going to be in AC during that time give me a shout out. I will definitely inform you guys on my take on AC once I return. This will be my second trip last trip (May 2005) was a 4 day fuck fest, barely left the hotel room. Trip was to damn short, plan to do a litle bit more this trip but the fuck fest is still part of the plan.

Falcon 95
08-26-05, 18:07
[QUOTE=Kimochi]I've noticed a number of Koreans, Japanese, and maybe chinese roaming around. Also noted the direct flights now from Seoul and HK to Clark. Is the asian invasion screwing up the AC market and thus the sudden spike in so called "cherry girls"?

Kimochi,

What do you mean by this? So Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese aren't allowed in AC? What, are they trespassing in your neighborhood?

Tigerlion
08-27-05, 05:42
I happen to be in AC now. If anyone is in town and is interested in getting together for a drink, please PM me.

Ekspat
08-27-05, 08:18
I happen to be in AC now. If anyone is in town and is interested in getting together for a drink, please PM me.Will be there from 1st onwards.

You still around?

Cheers!

Kimochi
08-27-05, 09:04
Kimochi,

What do you mean by this? So Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese aren't allowed in AC? What, are they trespassing in your neighborhood?Falcon,

No offense intended. I should have mentioned that I am ASIAN as well (but grew up in the states). It's just our local brethren have a bad habit of raising prices in certain markets and just have a different attitude towards mongering than say a typical Western mongerer... By no means are they not invited. It's just what they want and how much they are willing to pay can be very different from what other foreigners prefer. Maybe I was too quick to judge in implying the Asians are to blame for this recent cherrygirl phenomenom.

If anything my guess is that, as AC gets more Asian visitors, you'll probably start seeing new clubs that cater to them (AC veterans are probably rolling their eyes by now!). Go to any mongering-friendly country and you'll see "Japanese" style clubs and also your regular western style pickup/ gogo bars just as you'll see resorts that cater to certain nationalities. It's just that you'll find the asian style clubs tend to cost a lot more $$$. Ultimately its the flow of $/Yen/Euro/etc that makes the call.

By the way, I thought I saw a Korean owned placed in AC? Big stage and all the seats (booths) set way back... Had a korean name like arirang? Girls had various uniforms (school girls, etc). Sorry too drunk to remember.

Erikla
08-27-05, 16:50
By the way, I thought I saw a Korean owned placed in AC? Big stage and all the seats (booths) set way back... Had a korean name like arirang? Girls had various uniforms (school girls, etc). Sorry too drunk to remember.From Margarita Station newsletter:

LAS VEGAS has been sold to the Korean owners of Agayasa. It is currently closed and renovations are expected. A sign on the door says all the staff from Las Vegas is in Bunny Ranch.

Erik

Falcon 95
08-27-05, 17:23
Falcon,

No offense intended. I should have mentioned that I am ASIAN as well (but grew up in the states). It's just our local brethren have a bad habit of raising prices in certain markets and just have a different attitude towards mongering than say a typical Western mongerer... By no means are they not invited. It's just what they want and how much they are willing to pay can be very different from what other foreigners prefer. Maybe I was too quick to judge in implying the Asians are to blame for this recent cherrygirl phenomenom.

If anything my guess is that, as AC gets more Asian visitors, you'll probably start seeing new clubs that cater to them (AC veterans are probably rolling their eyes by now!). Go to any mongering-friendly country and you'll see "Japanese" style clubs and also your regular western style pickup/ gogo bars just as you'll see resorts that cater to certain nationalities. It's just that you'll find the asian style clubs tend to cost a lot more $$$. Ultimately its the flow of $/Yen/Euro/etc that makes the call.

By the way, I thought I saw a Korean owned placed in AC? Big stage and all the seats (booths) set way back... Had a korean name like arirang? Girls had various uniforms (school girls, etc). Sorry too drunk to remember.Kimochi,

Some offense taken. But thanks anyway for your explanation. Well, here's my take on it. I'm not an AC expert, but I'm not so sure the Asian-style clubs would work in AC. AC just doesn't have enough Asian customers right now. It might work in Manila. And I'm not into cherry girls. So I couldn't tell you why some guys like them.

The Korean owned bar you are referring to is called Agasha across from the Orchid Inn. Yes about that bar... One of the first Asian-style bars in AC, if not the first. I've been there many times, and every time it beats me how they stay afloat. It's not a small bar, but it would surprise me if they ever broke even on a given night. You match up Agasha with Champagne, the latter would win every time hands down.

It may be true that some Asians go to AC and spend more than they should. But we have to realize that some don't have the luxury of visiting AC every few months. So they go "nuts" when they are there because they don't know when's the next time they can return. After all, it's the owners that are raising the prices. They probably figured since AC is popular enough (or some people "addicted" enough) that people will return and pay the raised prices no matter what. I don't think the owners would raise the prices for the Asian minority while risking upsetting the Western customers. After all, they are the majority.

However, I DO agree with you that the prices are going up. And I'm afraid they will rise exponentially with no stop in sight.

By the way, I need to thank you on one thing. I've been wanting to make a post, but never got around to it. You were the one to stir me up, if I may say so? Happy mongering.

Cebu Local
08-28-05, 00:41
Hi All
I had lunch with Dept of Tourism Regional Director Teotico a few weeks ago.The update is that many more Asians are expected.The flights of Asiana to Clark will increase from 2 times a week to daily MORE KOREANS,Tiger Airways will have daily flights from Macau To Clark starting October 30 MORE CHINESE,CR airways will start flying Hongkong to Clark in October MORE HONGKIES Air Asia will start flying Macau to Clark in October also MORE MORE CHINESE.So those building Asian style bars are planning ahead for the coming east asian invasion.So there will be bars for the yellow farang as well as the white farang.cheers

Fastpiston
08-29-05, 01:58
Cebu Local: Any news on budget flights Clark-Bangkok?

Cebu Local
08-29-05, 02:46
Cebu Local: Any news on budget flights Clark-Bangkok?
I texted my friend at the Air Transportation office and He said Thai Air Asia has applied to fly the route.Estimated Airfare will be around 120$ roundtrip,So I guess MORE WHITE FARANG ALSO.will keep you guys updated

Ekspat
08-29-05, 03:09
Tiger Airways will have daily flights from Macau To Clark starting October 30 MORE CHINESE,CR airways will start flying Hongkong to Clark in October MORE HONGKIES Air Asia will start flying Macau to Clark in October also MORE MORE CHINESE.Oh oh,

In some areas of China there's a ratio of 130:100 boys to girls due to that one child politics. Hopefully they all don't come flying in and marry the pretty girls away.

Cheers!

Travel Spirit
08-29-05, 21:39
I have just returned from Angeles. I think this place is a sex paradise. It was my second visit and I am under the impression that quality and inexpensiveness go together. In almost any bar there were beauties! And fortunately I was not faced with that kind of excuse:"sorry I have a period"(although I am in my forties).

I stayed in Royal Amsterdam Hotel and I was satisfied with the room(superior 35$),the service,the location.

I am a frequent visitor of Thailand (17 times until now) and drawing a comparison between two places I can say that in Philippines (especially in Angeles) there are maybe less hardened girls and you generally run into greater atmosphere in the bars. Possibly I was impressed because the repeat tired me out and made the new more appealing. Anyway I love both places(and some others also).

And now I need your experience. My friend proposed to a bargirl. The beauty told him that her family is poor, her father is ill and so on. He invited her to our country intending marriage. How much money must he spend so as to make it?

Porty
08-31-05, 17:01
And now I need your experience. My friend proposed to a bargirl. The beauty told him that her family is poor, her father is ill and so on. He invited her to our country intending marriage. How much money must he spend so as to make it?I have only been traverling to Philippines in last 19 months. I've been 5 times. Ever since I got banned from Russia. Cant get visa! Dont ever date a Russian lawyer and dump her! ha ha. From my experince I found all girls there have sick family members, and most are from poor families, that is why they work in bars! Use common sense please. I had girl tell me she had her papas funeral and then 3 weeks later when families roof blown off in storm I asked her why her papa could not fix it and she said he was too old. See they forget what they say. Just a tip.

Really, if he wants to get her to come there, my advise is get him to go back and go with her for passport and then bring her with him bacik to his country. If he says he will give her 100 dollars a month, with in a short time she will want more before the next month. Just be careful. I am meeting a girl in Butuan and she has a Italian man who sent her $500 to get passport and wants to marry her. Yes, she is still spending time with me. I don't care if he is support her and I am getting all the fun. It saves me supporting her. She will marry him because she wants out of the Philippines and has child. She is not bar girl, she works in clothing shop. But it is the way it is.

Okay, just be careful and remember there are so many girls really! Some good, some bad, but all go to the bed with us.

X Man
09-01-05, 04:42
Porty

Related to your story you might want to read some of my "fiance" posts earlier this month. Have you already met this Butuan girl, or will this be the first time?

As for girls who forget their own bullshit, some do and some don't. I think they learn from their mistakes, so if you get one who has all her lines right....well, she may be telling the truth...or she may have become a master liar. Ha, ha. Don't forget to test the friends and relatives.

Cousin of "my girl" begs me to find her a boyfriend. Two days later, the three of us are together and she excuses herself. My girl tells me, "oh, she's going to meet her boyfriend." Two weeks later, we are chatting online and "my girl" starts talking about her money problems.

I ask, "If you don't have money, why you spending money at Net cafe".
Answers, "I didn't pay, my cousin paid. She's next to me chatting with her fiance."

Hmmm, if anyone is interested in this promiscuous, conniving cousin, I will post her pic at the davao thread. Just don't tell her you got the info from me.

Hippie
09-03-05, 05:55
A slight correction to Cebu Local's post: CR Airways has been flying HKG - CRK for many months already. Maybe they are going to increase the number of flights?

Porty
09-03-05, 09:16
Yes I agree totally with you! It was not my friend that I was answering, its a post on this board earlier. Just wanted to warn him about what goes down, I have fun hearing the stories and love to catch them out. No, I have not meet her, but been in contact with her for over 1 year, never made it to see her in the last 3 trips. but have my fun on cam with her. I feel for the italian man cos he's paying. Already chatting to her best friend at same time because she knows I want 3 some. all 3 of us chat on cam together each on pc. But also I am doing Makati, Ceby (My Normal hunting ground) and Davo in 20 days. Thanks for all your post and do feel for guys who believe all the girls tell them. I hope to get to AC one day but now with the new influx of asians whorist the price will go through the roof! I've seen a Korean pay 12,000 for a girl who I had for 3000 3 nights later. They ruin it for us.

Cebu Local
09-03-05, 09:29
A slight correction to Cebu Local's post: CR Airways has been flying HKG - CRK for many months already. Maybe they are going to increase the number of flights?Yes Hippie,You are correct,They are increasing to daily flights.Thanks

Travel Spirit
09-03-05, 19:30
Porty,

Thanks for your reply.

And read this: She asked for money to get a passport (no amount specified in her e-mail at this moment) but she wrote that she will ask for help from her cousin, using her I.D. for the western union, as she has not a bank account.

Isn't this strange?

Ekspat
09-04-05, 06:21
Hi,

Some bars like Ziggy and Lollypop increased the barfine before midnight to 1,300 pesos.

Great fun anyway!

Cheers!

Porty
09-05-05, 02:19
With out id valid one. She can't get a passport ! So why does she need money for passport when she cant apply for one. First she must get vaild id ! which means her papa has bring birth cetificate and go to office to get one. As i said sending money is bad, if ur friend really wants this girl his only way is to be there and do everything with her to get passport, my suggestion is he waits for next holiday and goes back and does this. Tell him to think above his waste and girls like that are a dime a dozen ok.

On The Go
09-05-05, 07:21
My mongering partner Numerowon and I will be making the trip to Paradise in October and I am looking for anyone who might have any insight with the Wild Orchid Hotel?. The pictures that are posted on its website look fantastic with a beautiful pool and its surroundings, but is it much better than the old Orchid as the price is quite abit more expensive? Any information you can provide me on the accommodations, staff, and atmosphere would be greatly appreciated!

HenryV
09-05-05, 17:13
A couple posts back someone asked about AC around X-mas, is it crowded, are there many girls, etc. No one answered.

I have been to AC a number of times and plan to go for the first time in December (05). Any info out there? Should I go, or head for Puerto Galera, Cebu, other stops?

Thanks

Cebu Local
09-05-05, 21:49
A couple posts back someone asked about AC around X-mas, is it crowded, are there many girls, etc. No one answered.

I have been to AC a number of times and plan to go for the first time in December (05). Any info out there? Should I go, or head for Puerto Galera, Cebu, other stops?

Thanks
OK,I have posted this before in the Cebu,Makati threads etc.The girls work hard until about Dec 23 to earn Christmas Money,then they go home from Dec 23 to About Jan 2 to spend New Year and Christmas with the folks,This applies to Angeles,Makati,Manila,Cebu,Davao..........

Tbm Fan
09-06-05, 06:01
A couple posts back someone asked about AC around X-mas, is it crowded, are there many girls, etc. No one answered.

I have been to AC a number of times and plan to go for the first time in December (05). Any info out there? Should I go, or head for Puerto Galera, Cebu, other stops?

ThanksHave been in Angeles every single onth of the year but only once over the Christmas/New Year Holiday. Would do it again in an instant. The New Years Eve party at Roadhouse is simply fantastic especially if friends are in town.

As for Puerto Galera you are looking at it being the high season for Europeans so be prepared to have your lodging plans set ahead of time.

Yella Man
09-06-05, 10:08
Is there a place at Clark Airport to get a SIMM Card for my cell phone? I can't find the one I had taken out when I used my phone in America. If not where's the closest place to snag one? Had to go to the mall before, but I'm hoping there is some place closer so I can top-up my phone the night I get in. Any help will be appreciated.

Yella Man

Tigerlion
09-06-05, 10:37
I heard an unconfirmed report that Doll House was raided and is closing in a week. Can anyone confirm this? I was just there last week.

The only place I know to get a SIM card is in Angeles City. If you need the info, let me know.

Tigerlion
09-06-05, 10:47
This is my first trip to AC. The hotel and bar review have been very helpful to help narrow down the field as my trip was a short 4 days.

Airport transportation:
Taxi to and from Manila airport can still be had for P2,000. In Manila airport, stand firm at P2,000.

Accommodation:
There’s apparently an Orchid Inn and an Orchid Resort. The one I stayed in was the Orchid Inn, which is not the nice one. Anyway, for the next few days I stayed at the Swiss Chalet and got a clean, big room for P1,450. It has free WIFI if you have a laptop.

I barfined a girl named Princess from Brown Sugar the first night. She was good until the end. She seemed to get annoyed by the sessions that took some time. She tried to leave a 4 in the morning. I wouldn’t let her. I felt her up and down and she got the message. After another pop, I let her go. She asked for a tip. I gave her P150 and got rid of her.

The next day I hung out at the Dirty Ducks in the afternoon. There are some nice ones there but I resisted the temptation of barfining the first 3 girls I saw that day. I went to one of those cocktail lounges for a ST session in the afternoon. I can’t say I recommend this. For P500, you really just get a bang-pay-and-leave experience. The room in the back was squalid and not at all conducive to sex. After midnight, I went to Champagne. There was this tall dancer (5’6”) with a near-model figure. Her name is Marianne. When I walked in, she was sitting by this fat dude. For some reason, he didn’t take her. So I jumped at the chance.

The next morning (Sunday), she said her friend was waiting for her to go to church. Anyway, we did the deed again and off she went to Sunday church. That was a very surreal experience. I recommend her though. She’s a very nice girl.

I went to Dollhouse and within minutes surrounded myself with three girls. That ran the bill up quickly though with the ladies drink. Oh well. At $2.5 a drink, where else are you going to have one arm wrapped around a girl with a third sitting on your lap?

There, I barfined a 22yo sweetheart. I’d give her 7 on the looks, 7 on the body, and an absolute 10 on the attitude. She was this really shy, and innocent (relatively speaking) girl. After talking to these girls a while, you can quickly determine who’s been there a long time and who’s just recently arrived. And she’s definitely the latter.

I asked her to come after work, which meant I didn’t have to barfine her. She readily agreed and I spent my final night at AC with her. She was really passionate. She never asked for money. The next morning, I gave her some money anyway—more than her cut of the barfine.

I went to another cocktail lounge called the Dukes of York. There, I short-timed a girl named May and took her back to my room. This sure beat doing it in the dingy back room of the bar. Anyway, she’s 18—very nice and accommodating. I’ll upload her pictures in the picture section.

There is a massage joint called Massage Palace on Don Juico Avenue – P600 for VIP room. The massage was decent and extra service was offered. But the girl wasn’t all that attractive so I didn’t take up on the offer.

X Man
09-06-05, 13:24
Porty, if you paid 3k just days after someone else paid 12k, how is it that it was ruined for you / us?

When a girl goes home and tells her girlfriends that she made 12,000 pesos in one night, those friends are going to start thinking.

So, I'd like to thank the high rollers for their generosity which does SO MUCH to increase the number of women available for the rest of us riff raff.

X Man

Porty
09-06-05, 18:53
How it is BAD ! Very Simple! She then will only go for kroeans or japs as she will realise that they are willing to pay more than us western guys ! its that simple X Man. Maybe u think its good to pay large amounts ! I would rather treat them like a princess and pay normal ! than treat them like a slave and pay big ! Cos i have seen how they are treated. I mean in top KTV bar in Cebu Arena ! I saw korean man just filck his cigarrette but at the girls and say well theres the rubbish bin. I mean i treat the girls good cos they are people just like us ! no better or worse theIr proffesion is of no concern. Just my opinion.

I do enjoy your post and think that your a good man. So please do not take offence tp my answer . Thanks X Man.

Tbm Fan
09-06-05, 20:00
I heard an unconfirmed report that Doll House was raided and is closing in a week. Can anyone confirm this? I was just there last week.

The only place I know to get a SIM card is in Angeles City. If you need the info, let me know.It was raided Saturday night and then open a few hours later. Same thing Sunday although there supposedly was a meeting going on inside. The short of it is that it is approaching the Christmas season and you will see a lot more raids on those bars that they think still have some money. Don't you just love the Philippines when it comes to this.

Ekspat
09-07-05, 04:20
Aloha LAW,

sorry, have been there for 5 days now and couldn't find any of your experience with cherry girls. Never heard the word cherry-girl at all and I talked really to a lot of girls.

I can only assume the girls didn't want to go with you for what reason ever, and they used "cherry girl" as some kind of excuse. No offence mate.

Cheers!

On The Go
09-08-05, 04:29
I posted a report on September 5 requesting information on the atmosphere, accommodations, environment, staffing, and any other information you fellow mongers could provide me and Numerowon on the New Wild Orchid, as we were considering getting rooms there for our October trip. I was hoping to hear from mongers who have experienced both places and there thoughts and views on them as there is quite a difference in cost between the two. I find it very hard to believe that with all the mongers that are visiting this site that NO ONE will step forward to provide us with any type of information which would allow us to better prepare for our trip to paradise.

Ekspat
09-08-05, 06:09
I find it very hard to believe that with all the mongers that are visiting this site that NO ONE will step forward to provide us with any type of information which would allow us to better prepare for our trip to paradise.

So far it seems so and I haven't been to any of them yet. Why don't you just arrive, then check out the rooms in both places and decide then? Whats the problem?

Cheers!

Hippie
09-08-05, 09:10
Hey Yella Man,

There are multiple places on Fields Ave that sell SIM cards. Just ask your hotel where the closest place is. There used to be, and presumably still are, three within "pointing range" of Kokomoz. A waitress there pointed them out to me as I was finishing breakfast on my first day of my first trip, and I just went to the closest one.

X Man
09-08-05, 10:15
Porty,

First of all, your expression for the Japanese people is generally thought of as offensive and racist in most of the English language. You go on to say you have respect for "the girls" because they are people. Last time I checked, the Japanese are people too.

You point out the bad behavior of a "Korean" which has nothing at all to do with your original arguement about "them" making it difficult for us because they seem to pay more. I can assure you, there are plenty of non-Asians that treat the women badly, just as the are some non-Asian high-rollers that pay top dollar.

You make a good point -- the ladies will chase the Asian high rollers, but of course they are going to chase any high roller. My point was that well paid women will pass the word along, thus tempting more non pros to test the waters. Will these things balance out? Maybe. But we certainly can't say "it's as simple as that".

To add another thing to the mix, since the Filipinos speak English, we have a huge advantage. If a lady is going to spend the night with some guy she can't even talk to, she is likely to want more money. Also likely to leave as soon as possible. If you treat the women well, and can carry on an interesting conversation, you have an advantage.

Of course, if the ladies all start learning Japanese....then I'll get worried.

Also, in response to some of your comments. No, I don't enjoy paying large amounts...what could possibly have caused you to think that? Also, I'm not a "good man". If you try to ruin my reputation again with such slander I will be forced to take drastic action.

X Man

Porty
09-08-05, 15:07
X Man! Question on the saying Good Man! I am sure you want the girls to say that you where good! he he.

On the comment about racist! I did re read my comment, maybe my words where not the best! So any racist feeling is far from my mind. Especially to Japanese people as I find them great, even to the point of spending one night dancing with a Japanese girl at Sunflower in Cebu. The Japanese guys she was with where great had one of my best nights that night!

I was trying to make the comment about with prices in Japan even compared to western countries. For them to pay even 10,000 pesos they would think there getting a bargin. Yes I have been to Japan! Just if you where wondering! Yes I agree that every nationailty has good and bad. But you know as well as I know we make our judgements on what we see! Maybe one day I will meet a nice korean person! I know the ladies are very nice, maybe its the mongers that are not so nice. If you are in of the cities this october when I am there I will buy you a beer for calling you a good man ok.

Keep your post coming because all of us members get great help from them.

On The Go
09-09-05, 03:28
The problem lies Elkspat in that I am not only interested in the rooms, but the atmosphere as well, how the staff treats you, and other mongers experiences who have stayed there, e.t.c. It is not all about what the rooms look like, and further more it is much cheaper to book rooms in advance over the internet. I am also confused as to why you made even a post to me as it contained no value what so ever. The board here is about providing information and sharing experiences to make other mongers trips more enjoyable and that is what I am trying to achieve with my post.

Jack Brice
09-09-05, 04:16
I will be heading back to Angeles in early Spring and do some more on the spot reporting so to speak like I did last time. I do realize after a few days I got behind the power curve and the reports petered out due to my lecherous and lushus ways I guess. That's what happens when you go 7 years without a trip to the PI! But hey, I'll be there to give the 'Spring' report as I'm sure there will be some LBFMs just ripe for the pickin'! Any thing happen in the last 6 months I need to be aware of?
Alright, don't wear 'em out before I'm back in the city of fallen angels.

JB

Ekspat
09-09-05, 05:23
I am not only interested in the rooms, but the atmosphere as well, how the staff treats you, and other mongers experiences who have stayed there.Okay, accepted. Then you have other preferences than me, I don't care very much about hotel staff or atmosphere. At least not in AC. For me it's only the room what counts over there.

Have a good time!

Cheers!

Member #1005
09-09-05, 08:16
The board here is about providing infomation and sharing experiences to make other mongers trips more enjoyable and that is what I am trying to achieve with my post.

On The Go

Actually, yours was not a post it was in-fact a question.

My first question to you is have you tried RTFF?

Second is, why should someone answer your question?

If you have and cannot find the answer to the question you are asking that is because the forum these days is filled with many people like yourself asking pointless questions that could have been answered by a bit of effort on their part.

You talk about sharing information however, there are a small minority of people who do write informative post and frequently answer pointless questions, like your own, but often having asked a question and had it answered the favour is never reciprocate and such people don’t have the courtesy to post a report on their experience – so now tell me why would someone want to answer your question??

Take a look at the forum this week, we have someone who claims that there is only one store that sells sim cards in AC, when from my experience they are available 24 hours a day. I don’t know which one is easier to find in AC a sim card or woman?

Then there is this argument that Japanese are putting up the prices in AC by bar fining girls up to 3000 Pesos a time, what about the Korean, Taiwanese and Hong Kong people who also visit AC? They have been coming for many years they did not discover this place in 2005. Yes, they have always paid more but they have shorter stays in AC of five days, and in my experience if you know how to treat women it doesn’t really matter what the last client paid her.

Whatever happened to the pioneering spirit? When I was first travelling 20 years ago I met many people aged 17, 18 etc armed with a rucksack and a small pocketful of cash and an idea to travel all over Asia for a year. I was 19 when I first went to Butuan City in Mindanao, alone and I met other travellers down there, Australians, Irish and Americans (OK going to get married to a girl they had never met before) now days I keep seeing guys asking is it safe, well it wasn’t safe then but peoples still went there?

Three weeks ago I was in some small town in Poland for a couple of weeks but at least I made an effort to RTFF of what available information was there, as was the case when I went to Latvia in 2001 and the many the places I have been.

This is the Philippines not Disneyland, most people who travel to AC are horny single guys, you are travelling with your friend what are you worried about? If you are that concerned about the place I would suggest that you go elsewhere like Disneyland

Look forward to reading your post

Juniour

J Boy
09-09-05, 15:39
On The Go

Actually, yours was not a post it was in-fact a question.
Juniour

You POST questions, POST statements and POST trip reports. Of course it was a post. If you want to nit pick try to be right! LOL

On The Go
09-10-05, 02:00
Juniour, some of your posts are informative, but at least 90 percent of them are all about you blowing hot air and trying to start disagreements which I am too smart to enter into with you. Your reputation on here speaks for itself, and so does your intelligence, so I am sure the viewers of your post to me are shaking there heads once again at your ignorance and stupidity. There is no need for you to continue to try to engage me in any of your nonsense behavior as I will not respond and will leave your ignorance continue to speak your words. For your information Juniour, my friend and I have made many trips to AC, but have not been there since the opening of the New Wild Orchid, and that is the reason for my post. As far as traveling with a friend goes, it great to travel with someone who shares in the same interests as you. I am sure again, based on your ignorance and the God Almight Behavior that you try to impress upon us fellow mongers, you have no friends who would want to travel or monger with you, so you must do what you do best, attack a fellow monger for traveling with a friend who makes the trip and party that much more enjoyable.

Snake12
09-10-05, 02:20
Dear Juniour et al,

You and many others have provided excellent information on this board. However, from personal experience, some of the information from past posts may be outdated. Therefore, if a monger requests current information prior to a trip to the PI, please don't rip him up. Either respond with current info, if you have it, or PM the requester, or be quiet. Your sarcastic responses and that of others stifle the free flow of information.

In any event, have another SM and smile.

Snake

GoodEnough
09-10-05, 03:38
[QUOTE=I am sure again, based on your ignorance and the God Almight Behavior that you try to impress upon us fellow mongers, you have no friends who would want to travel or monger with you, [/QUOTE]

Well I would, for one. Is there no longer any appreciation of wit, irony or sarcasm left on this board. Lighten up!

Member #1005
09-10-05, 05:06
Thanks for clearing that up for me guys, you must know me very well, yup my life is obviously not as rich and fulfilling as yours.

Just for clarification here, On The Go asks a question about the Orchid Resort’s “atmosphere” he didn’t get a response and then demands information on this very subject. Eskapat responded and he rips into him because he still didn’t get the answer he wanted – well talk about being grateful. But the moral of this story is if you can’t take it – don’t give it out.

He reminds me of the guys in the China thread demanding that if someone posts a photo that it only be the type of picture that they prefer, when at the same time these same guys have posted not one single photo. But excuse me, am I missing something here?

Hey, Snake12, sorry if my information is outdated perhaps you would like to post some current information – because I am always happy to read informative posts from whoever writes them.

But come on ladies l mean guys, if you don’t want any criticism don’t post stupid questions – use pm instead and yes I recommend you try to RTFF.

Anzac
09-10-05, 06:52
Hey Guys,

Just back from my first trip to AC and I had a ball. Others may know otherwise, but the only totally naked dancers I saw in AC were at the Gentlemans Club, close to America Hotel on Fields Ave. There were a couple of cuties in there and in the afternoon around 4-5pm they had a "superstar" dancer who did the whole exotic dance thing and dildo show.

Some other thoughts: thought the Dollhouse and the Nile had the best, youngest looking girls. Roadhouse and Brown Sugar were as boring as bat shit. A place called bunny ranch has some cuties and the girls know how to have a good time, especially if the drinks are flowing. My mate and i ran up a 14,000 pesos drink bill in 4 hours but we had the time of our lives, body shots, lesbo body shots and cute girls licking and sucking us all over and the waitresses will get into the action too.

Stayed at America Hotel. Great rooms and pool but food needs to pick up.
Seemed to be a heap of girls around and very few mongerers - paradise.

I went to AC last after partying in Beijing, Bkk, Pattaya, Manila and Makati within the space of a month. For value and partying girls, for me AC won hands down.

Take it easy guys,

Anzac

X Man
09-10-05, 14:41
"all about you blowing hot air and trying to start disagreements which I am to smart to enter into with you"

to = too?

Someone please slap me so that I can stop this convulsive laughter.

SLAP, SLAP, SLAP

OK thanks. Somehow, I overestimate the "smarts" of some of the people on this list.

X Man

Yella Man
09-12-05, 07:38
Got in late (after 0100) so I opted to head right for the Black pearl on Santos street for a BBBCIM given excellently by Lin Lin. I highly recommend her. Figured I'm gonna be here for awhile so hit a few more bars then called it a night to rest up for the next day.

Day Two:

After breakfast headed right for the Black Pearl again for another BBBJCIM. This time Laiya took care of me. She milked that thing in her mouth until she was sure every drop was out. Great BJ! Hung around for about another hour drinking Cold brew and shooting the shit with the girls. Very relaxing atmosphere. Not your kind of place if your looking for an establishment in one star condition. The girls there perform a service, most of them pretty damn good. Some aren't bad looking either.

Hooked up with Candyman and another friend for an evening of Bar hopping. Lollipops comes to mind because I Bar-fined Lisa out of there, and the girls of that bar really know how to entertain. After the drink Lady drinks started flowing, the girls really got wild. I had my pants down in short order and five or six girls were rubbing, stroking and yes licking my dick in front of any one who wished to see. Yes, it was quite an experience! Candyman and my other friend both had women all over them. I bar-fined Lisa and told her I would come back to pick her up later. Me and the Boys had some more hopping to do.

Checked out Insomnia Club. Wasn't impressed at all. Had some suds and left. Went into Champagne Club and man! They had more stunners in there than I'm use to seeing in one club. My two friends bar-fined a couple of girls and we left. Picked up Lisa at Lollipops and headed for another bar whose name escapes my mind, had a few drinks and then headed for the Orchid. Candyman and I got our girls in the pool, Lisa in her bra and panties, and had a blast before heading to the rooms for the night.

I gotta give Lisa some promps here. The girl had some skillz! Some special Skills that a lot of us men look for but hardly find. I won't mention what they are because she told me that her friends don't know she provides this kind of service, and a lot of bar owners and girls are hip to this site. Even with all the girls here in Angeles to choose from, I'm thinking about hitting her one more time before I leave. Life is good!

Yella Man

Yella Man
09-12-05, 07:44
Did the double BBBJ at the Black Pearl. Lin Lin and another girl took care of me during lunch time. Lin Lin was actually instructing the other less experienced girl on what to do, ie....suck his balls, now suck his nipples, put more ice in your mouth, ect ect... Lin Lin has some pretty good oral skills. Time to take a nap and get ready for tonight. More later.

Yella Man

LoveAsianWhores
09-12-05, 12:27
Aloha LAW,

sorry, have been there for 5 days now and couldn't find any of your experience with cherry girls. Never heard the word cherry-girl at all and I talked really to a lot of girls.

I can only assume the girls didn't want to go with you for what reason ever, and they used "cherry girl" as some kind of excuse. No offence mate.

Cheers!

I was with 3 other people, and all of them found the same thing - all the cute girls were cherry girls. One person actually paid the 50,000. Also, you can just ask a waitress or mamasan as you walk in and she will point to all of the cherry girls, so it is not about a girl not wanting to go with you. If a girl is not a cherry girl and does not want to go with you, she will just say she is having her menstration. I would assume that since our experiances were so different, we like different types of girls. I can only say that all of the girls that me or my friends thought were cute, were all cherries.

Too bad you didn't have any time in Manila - we could have gone to some of the bars here to compare our tastes in women (and I think the Manila bars are much better, if a bit more expensive)

Ekspat
09-13-05, 01:20
Hi Law,


I would assume that since our experiances were so different, we like different types of girls.Yes, it might be an explanation.


Too bad you didn't have any time in Manila - we could have gone to some of the bars here to compare our tastes in women (and I think the Manila bars are much better, if a bit more expensive)Will be there for a few days in the first week of November. Some kind of Ramadhan & Deepavali getaway. Maybe we take some SMB if time permits.

Cheers!

Tigerlion
09-13-05, 03:40
Does anyone have Dirty Duck's phone number?

If anyone happens to be in AC, could you do me a small favor and get the phone number, if they have one?

A waitress there, Joy, has been sending me SMS, except I lost her number. So I'm just trying to get a hold of her, that's all. Thanks to anyone who can help out.

Highway61
09-13-05, 13:46
Howdy all. Three pals and I are returning to Angeles from 23 - 26 Sept. Always keen to hook up with fellow mongers for drinks, food, and all the rest. Let me know if you're in town and wanna hang with a fun bunch. The rest of the crew are great guys - we treat the ladies well and get great service, all while having as big a blast as possible.

We'll be at Wild Orchid.

Ekspat
09-14-05, 06:55
Does anyone have Dirty Duck's phone number? If anyone happens to be in AC, could you do me a small favor and get the phone number, if they have one? I would wait for her next SMS, then you have the number again. Anyway, if it isn't too late for you, I can find out first week of October. Let me know.

Cheers!

Tigerlion
09-16-05, 02:44
First week of Oct is perfectly fine. Thanks for your help in advance, Ekspat.

I lost the SIM card; that's the problem.


I would wait for her next SMS, then you have the number again. Anyway, if it isn't too late for you, I can find out first week of October. Let me know.

Cheers!

HenryV
09-16-05, 21:10
This Is Coming From A Regular To A/c, However, It May Not Sound Like It After You Hear This.

On My Last Trip To A/c I Was Approached By A Filipino Male Who Introduced Himself And Knew Me By Name. "hi ______, I Am The Assitant Manger At The Orchid Inn." I Was Surprized And Thrown Off Guard At Him Knowing My Name. I Thought He Was The Assistant Manager, Did Know Me, And Was Trying To Be Friendly

He Invited Me To Where His Wife Supposedly Worked. He Claimed He Had Tickets For Me And My Friends (yes, He Knew I Was There With Two Friends) To The Grand Opening Of A Bar. I Went With Him In A Trike And We Wound Up At What He Claimed Was A House He Rented. The Scene Was Complete With Wife, Child, And Grandmother. After They Offered Me A Beer Other Filipino Males Appeard And Tried To Get Me To Play Cards For Money. I Repeadely Told Them I Did Not Gamble, And Just Refused To Play For Money. Soon, It Became Very Heated And When I Went To Leave One Of Them Grabbed My Arm. At That Point, I Pushed The Guy And Began Hollering Very Lould. I Made My Way To The Front Of The House, All The Time Hollering Very Loud To Attract Attention.

Outside The House I Jumped In A Trike, They Followed In Another. They Stopped My Trike Driver And Said Something To Him And, As A Result, I Immediatley Stopped And Got Into Another Trike Making My Way Back To Fields Av.

This Happend To My Friend On His Trip Last Month - The Filipino Male Claimed He Had A Daughter Who Was About To Leave For College In The Us. He Said It Would Be Nice If My Friend Could Explain To Her How To Arrange Transporiton, Etc - At The House They Tried The Same Thing On Him, He (my Friend) Feigned Illness To The Point He Was Going To Throw Up And, As A Result, Made It Out Of The House.

Do Not, Under Any Cirumstnces, Stop In The Steet And Talk To A Male Fillapino While In A/c.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Fastpiston
09-17-05, 10:28
When I warn people of the scam dangers of the Philippines, old-time forum members often scoff at me. Billpsu's message (not a first-timer in AC) is yet another example of a typical scam. In the Philippines ALWAYS be very wary of people who are trying to be your 'friend' or appear to 'know you'. Just keep on walking, ignoring them and they will know that you know what they know. I too have had guys approach me knowing my hotel etc. I have had girls in Manila call me in my hotel room just after I had checked in and know my name. One even said that I had made her pregnant! As often as not, this is done through a hotel employee at the hotel giving names and other details to girls for commission. There are lots of people in the Philippines that really work very hard developing new scams to trap the unwary foreigner. Some basics:

1) Do not respond to guys offering great exchange rates in the streets. These guys will short change you by giving you so many small notes you will spend ages counting, or worse.
2) Do not respond to people who claim to be hotel employees and know you, know where you stay or even your room number. Just because they know this does not qualify them for sainthood.
3) Do not accept free sweets, drinks or food from strangers, no matter how 'friendly' they are. They may be drugged.
4) Always lock up your valuables. A lot of hookers are on drugs and some really need a fix.
5) Only use trikes and taxis with a clearly showing association number.
6) Do not go down empty streets at night.
7) If a car stops and says they are police and want to check your ID, tell them to show you their ID first (wallet snatch).
8) Best not to let taxis or others take you to unknown addresses / locations.
9) Do not take taxis that hang around the airport, clubs or restaurants where foreigners frequent. Take a taxi that is driving by, just dropped someone off or one from a standard taxi line where drivers cannot 'select' passengers (eg outside large shopping malls).
10) Dress down.
11) Be careful of public buses, jeepneys and vans. A manager of a large company in the Philippines told me that not a day goes by without one or more of his Filipino staff being mugged or robbed on public transport.
12) Do not give people your name card unless you are absolutely sure they can be trusted.

All these are really common sense. Check the US and UK travel advisories as they are based on reality. Be very street wise and enjoy!

Tbm Fan
09-17-05, 19:07
I cannot possibly recall how many times I have had people come up to me and say remember me. Especially loved it when someone said it to me on my very first trip to the Philippines. To me it was a no brainer not to even pay attention to anything these people would say, I just walke on. Only once did I ever bit on one and I am still not sure but it was a jeepney heading down Fields. Look every bit a jeepney until I noticed he wasn't stopping for anybody else along the road. At that point I simply jumped out when he slowed in traffic near Checkpoint. New visitors are always arriving and so it does need to be repeated not to ever interact with anybody on the street no matter what is said. Period!

Columpuss
09-19-05, 06:21
Things will happen to you no matter where you travel in the world if you don't exercise some common sense. Unlike in the US, at least you probably won't get a hole put in your head by some street thuds. Many guys approached me on Fields with all sorts of offerings and I just politely smiled and said no.

The common denominator in most of the scams involved strangers. Just remember what your parents taught you, guys!!

Surround yourself with what you know from your last trip or from fellow mongers advises and you probably will be OK. I feel safer in AC than many places in land of Lincoln

Yella Man
09-20-05, 14:52
Hats off to club Illusions near the Pheonix Hotel. I had a fun filled few hours the time I spent there. The staff there is pretty wild and will do any thing to please their guests. I ordered five shots of tequilla and had the girls do body shots on me. All five had my dick in their mouth at one point during the shots. Those girls kept me hard for about two and a half hours licking, pumping and sucking my dick and nipples. Lady drinks were just 85 Pesos, and mamasan kept sending me free drinks (I guess to help grease the money out of my wallet) It's a great place to start a night of bar hopping. I believe they open at 2pm and close at 11pm, and if I'm not mistaken they have a short-time room on the premises because all the girls offered BBBJ's in the back room. It will be one of my first stops next time I'm in the RP.

Yella Man

Yella Man
09-20-05, 15:15
The Orchid Hotel is a great hotel, but their Standard rooms ($25) really suck ass! No internet connection in the Standards when all you would have to do to set it up would be to get a wireless router, configure it and let it rip. The CR (Comfort Room) or bathroom if you will, is small and nasty and the water smells really bad. Overall, the whole room is not impressive. I checked out (becuase the deluxe rooms weren't available) and checked into the Central Park. Much better room for the money ($30). It had wireless and LAN connections, it smelled clean, looked clean, and was much larger overall, and the staff was excellent. If you also want to swim, they have a very small pool at the entrance that is ony good for getting wet. I took my girls to the Wild Orchid on Santos street and used their pool equiped with bar and Jacuzzi. In fact, I'll probably book the Wild Orchid the next time I'm in the RP because they had pool side rooms, Jacuzzi rooms, and balcony rooms ranging from $59-$79 a night. I'll definately give them a shot next time.

Yella Man

Yella Man
09-21-05, 12:43
Champayne Club overall had some of the best looking women of all the clubs I visited during my stay in AC. It seems that by all the customers in the club, many people felt the same way. There were at least five women that I just had to bar-fine. I only ended up bar-fining one because there were so many other clubs to visit. I'll definitely make Champayne one of the first places I stop to bar-fine a girl next time I'm in town.

Yella Man

Yella Man
09-22-05, 12:11
If a club could be too large and have too many women to choose from, then the Blue Nile is it. Your brain goes on overdrive as you try to sort through the 100 plus women they have working there. I always say, its easier to pick between three women then it is to pick between 100. There's an upstairs, a downstairs, a side....women dancing all over! My last bar-fine came from there even as I only had two hours before I had to be at Clark for my flight. She was a worthy short time, even for the regular bar-fine fee of 1250 Pesos. Next time I'm in town I'll have to spend a few hours there to weed through the girls and find a true stunner. Worth checking out if your in town.

Yella Man

J Boy
09-22-05, 16:04
If a club could be too large and have too many women to choose from, then the Blue Nile is it. Your brain goes on overdrive as you try to sort through the 100 plus women they have working there. I always say, its easier to pick between three women then it is to pick between 100. There's an upstairs, a downstairs, a side....women dancing all over! My last bar-fine came from there even as I only had two hours before I had to be at Clark for my flight. She was a worthy short time, even for the regular bar-fine fee of 1250 Pesos. Next time I'm in town I'll have to spend a few hours there to weed through the girls and find a true stunner. Worth checking out if your in town.

Yella Man

Yella Man one way to narrow the choice in Blue Nile is to limit it to the Tequila Girls. They are generally the hottest girls in the club and I would guess there are only between 4 and 6 there at any one time.

Spitfire
09-22-05, 23:46
Yella Man one way to narrow the choice in Blue Nile is to limit it to the Tequila Girls. They are generally the hottest girls in the club and I would guess there are only between 4 and 6 there at any one time.

J Boy - What is a Tequila Girl?

Highway61
09-23-05, 03:20
Gents,

An overcast 28 in the City of Fallen Angels this morning. Arrived last night - man that new highway takes the pain out of the trip. Wild Orchid surely the most amazing hotel here and fantastic for those on the $60 a night-kind of budget. Humungous menu and very friendly staff. Lovely pool with wet bar. Who said this place was losing money. Ok there was nobody on the street at midnight and we must have been the only foreigners in most of the bars - Thursday night quiet times I guess. I think there are about 20 farang/gaijin in the whole town today but more tonight I'm sure.

Old faves Brown Sugar going well but only half their usual quota working it seemed. Lancealot very friendly and my buddy bought their cheapest champagne and began pouring that around - I should have stayed away from it and my head tells me today that I had more than one glassful. Viper Room quiet and good for a break where you can hear yourself think, but overpowering with that mothball smell. BN Exec Club had a superior selection but nothing to scream about. Dollhouse was a bit too large (like a massive kitchen or something) and yet pickings too scarce, although the best looking 3 girls of the night were dancing in there. The club next to Stingers (near old Orchid) was quite nice, with a good population of friendly girls there - three of whom kept me entertained and were asking me to guess which one I thought still had her "ass cherry". I lost the bets. More later - I gotta find an aspirin seller.

Tooch
09-23-05, 11:28
One bargirl from the EDSA complex related to me the protocol for medical clearance. Apparantly, each of the girls must pay 700 pesos and undergo a medical examination with tests every month - whether they had customers that month or not.

Can anyone tell me if the Angeles girls follow a similar protocol? What assurance is there that the Angeles bargirls are free from disease?

Thanks,

Tooch

Essi
09-23-05, 13:36
I was in AC 18 month ago and it was safe and no one stop me and offer me exchange or similar. at night was ok and in jeepnies too. so what change since then?

essi
When I warn people of the scam dangers of the Philippines, old-time forum members often scoff at me. Billpsu's message (not a first-timer in AC) is yet another example of a typical scam. In the Philippines ALWAYS be very wary of people who are trying to be your 'friend' or appear to 'know you'. Just keep on walking, ignoring them and they will know that you know what they know. I too have had guys approach me knowing my hotel etc. I have had girls in Manila call me in my hotel room just after I had checked in and know my name. One even said that I had made her pregnant! As often as not, this is done through a hotel employee at the hotel giving names and other details to girls for commission. There are lots of people in the Philippines that really work very hard developing new scams to trap the unwary foreigner. Some basics:

1) Do not respond to guys offering great exchange rates in the streets. These guys will short change you by giving you so many small notes you will spend ages counting, or worse.
2) Do not respond to people who claim to be hotel employees and know you, know where you stay or even your room number. Just because they know this does not qualify them for sainthood.
3) Do not accept free sweets, drinks or food from strangers, no matter how 'friendly' they are. They may be drugged.
4) Always lock up your valuables. A lot of hookers are on drugs and some really need a fix.
5) Only use trikes and taxis with a clearly showing association number.
6) Do not go down empty streets at night.
7) If a car stops and says they are police and want to check your ID, tell them to show you their ID first (wallet snatch).
8) Best not to let taxis or others take you to unknown addresses / locations.
9) Do not take taxis that hang around the airport, clubs or restaurants where foreigners frequent. Take a taxi that is driving by, just dropped someone off or one from a standard taxi line where drivers cannot 'select' passengers (eg outside large shopping malls).
10) Dress down.
11) Be careful of public buses, jeepneys and vans. A manager of a large company in the Philippines told me that not a day goes by without one or more of his Filipino staff being mugged or robbed on public transport.
12) Do not give people your name card unless you are absolutely sure they can be trusted.

All these are really common sense. Check the US and UK travel advisories as they are based on reality. Be very street wise and enjoy!

HenryV
09-23-05, 15:57
My earlier post was to simply warn travelers that in A/C there has been an upsurge in scams involving P/males who will somehow gain access to your name, then use it to gain your confidence to whisk you away to an ill fated card game, or worse.

In addition to my experience six months ago, over the last 4 months I have had three friends stay at the Orchid Inn, all were approached by someone who knew their name, where they were staying and, in some instances, the names of friends they were traveling with. As was mentioned in earlier posts, just keep walking.

I would never want a fellow monger to go thru what I and one of my friends did.

I will be in A/C again in early December, if anyone would like to contact me regarding more information about these scams let me know.

Vinnie1369
09-23-05, 16:50
Heh! That's funny. My second ever trip (February 2003) to the PI I fell for one of those. I was staying in Oasis and my friend and I decided to walk down to fields just for the hell of it. A filipino guy stops us and tells us about this wet T-Shirt contest and asked us if we wanted tickets. Well, being young and horny of course we said yes. Well, before we knew it we were in some guy's house playing cards. My friend was playing and I was watching...The filipino he played against kept trying to buy out the pot and I kept pushing my friend to outbuy him. Well, eventually my friend decided enough was enough and was ready to fold. I got pissed. "Aint no way in hell this little bastard is going to show us up!" and I took over the hand. Before I knew it the pot was up to $400 and I was happy as hell because I had a full house with queens. Of course this cheating little jerk had kings. I forgot exactly what his hand was.

Then of course my third PI trip (April 2003) I stay at Orchid Inn and saw that pretty little sign at the reception desk THAT WARNS YOU NOT TO GET INTO ANY CARD GAMES WITH FILIPINOS BECAUSE THEY ARE SCAMS! I guess you guys who stayed at Orchid missed that sign. Either that or it got yanked down. I aint been to Orchid since August 2004.

Vinnie1369
09-23-05, 16:56
Tooch, Yes the Angeles girls also have to be checked once a month. I am not sure if they pay the 700 pesos to have it done but I do know they get checked once a month. You may notice the AC girls all carry those little ID tags on them in the bar. That is more or less a certification of sorts. The girls are NOT SUPPOSED to be working in the bar unless they are current on their check-ups. Of course that doesn't mean much as she can get her test done Wednesday, go to work Friday night, get barfined and that guy gives her something. Well, now she is infected with god's knows what and won't find out until she goes for her check up that next month, so cover your Willie!


One bargirl from the EDSA complex related to me the protocol for medical clearance. Apparantly, each of the girls must pay 700 pesos and undergo a medical examination with tests every month - whether they had customers that month or not.

Can anyone tell me if the Angeles girls follow a similar protocol? What assurance is there that the Angeles bargirls are free from disease?

Thanks,

Tooch

Yella Man
09-23-05, 18:10
Tooch,

The girls who work the club scene in Angeles are required to have a pap smear every week to check for desease. I was actually with one girl when her mamasan texted her to tell her to make her doctors appointment that day.

Yella man

Yella Man
09-24-05, 09:58
I'll be back over in November and was wondering if any of the locals had any luck with the girls near Angeles University Campus or maybe another University or college nearby? Just trying to expand my options!

Yella Man

Apstar
09-25-05, 07:27
Spitfire,

Tequila girls in Blue Nile and Blue Nile exec are the ones that go around selling tequila shots. They too can be BFed. I pulled one out of Blue Nile exec during my last trip. I'd have to agree with J boy, she certainly was one of the top talents that night.

Sammon
09-26-05, 13:46
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Non stop flight from New york to HKG 16 hours. Arrived at 8.30 pm . Connecting flight to Manila 9.55 pm/ Arrived in Manila around 12 midnight. Took a taxi to Lotus Garden about pesos 500. Rest in Manila section.

Arrived in angeles city 2 pm mode pf transport, fly the bus from Swagman hotel Manila close to Lotus Garden. Walking distance. But since I had a big bag 60 peso Taxi.

Stayed at Royal Amsterdam. Very nice hotel close to all the action on Fields avenue at $22.50 per night.

I found Dollhouse and Blue nile has the best atmosphere and good looking dancers. Barfine 1200 pesos. Tip I usually give 500 pesos. Girls are very Gfe and if given the nod wants to stay with you all day. Some of the ones I liked I took them to dinner and dancing at a local club called RMB or something, All local people. Nice music,

Also visited Casino at night. There are some freelancers hanging around the casino for those who are interested. Just make eye contact and smile.

Only thing of my observation is the lack of big breasts in phillippino women. Just beware of the padded bra they all wear enhancing their breasts. Just think of the guy making money doing business making padded bras. So if you are looking for big breasts the only girls who have them are old ugly or fat.

Overall good experience in angeles city. Nice laid back with not much to do in the day time. Many of the clubs are open 24 hours. So if you want the girl at any time of the day or night it is there although I figured good looking ones work from 7 pm to 3 am shift.

Finally one word of warning. Once you pick your choice do not go back to the same club for drinks bacause they charge ladies drinks for the girls drink.So take the girl to some other club if you want to sit with her and have a couple of drinks,she might insist thst you go back to the same club.

J Boy
09-26-05, 17:01
J Boy - What is a Tequila Girl?

Spitfire sorry to be so slow to answer but I don't check in here everday. I see Apstar answered about the tequila girls but I'll expand. They wear these hot little cowgirl outfits - very revealing. They have the tequila and shot glasses on their belts looking like a cowboy gun and holster set. I'm sure the body shots make a ton of money for the bar so they choose the hottest and/or most outgoing girls for that job. If nothing else try a couple body shots - one each way.

Spitfire
09-26-05, 22:03
JBoy and Apstar,
Thanks for the clarification on the tequila girls

Firedick
09-27-05, 05:21
Sammon,

Good post. But if you wish to include your girls bar in a barhop, after the barfine has been paid, just tell mamasan your girl drinks at customer price now. She will agree, rather than lose your business.

FD

Tigerlion
09-29-05, 05:02
Don't know if this question has been posted and answered before. Does anyone know whether it's possible to short time a girl in a mainstream bar like Brown Sugar, Blue Nile, Champagne, etc.?

AGL
09-29-05, 18:29
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]When I warn people of the scam dangers of the Philippines, old-time forum members often scoff at me. Billpsu's message (not a first-timer in AC) is yet another example of a typical scam. In the Philippines ALWAYS......

I am hoping to plan my first trip to the Philippines. Thanks Fastpiston for the detailed cautionary post of specific things to be careful of. I've heard you have to be more cautious in PI than in LOS so I'm a bit wiery of going there since I'll more than likely be traveling there by myself. None of my pals like Asian gals can you believe that...!

Thanks,
agl.

HenryV
09-29-05, 20:49
Don't know if this question has been posted and answered before. Does anyone know whether it's possible to short time a girl in a mainstream bar like Brown Sugar, Blue Nile, Champagne, etc.?You can negotiate whatever you wish. I have short-timed out of Champagne.

Tbm Fan
09-29-05, 21:03
Don't know if this question has been posted and answered before. Does anyone know whether it's possible to short time a girl in a mainstream bar like Brown Sugar, Blue Nile, Champagne, etc.?Of course you can short time a girl from one of the big bars. Just don't look for any discount on the barfine and it will be the same no matter what. Just tell the girl it is for only a few hours and that she is free to go. Although some report that girls from Nero's and Blue Nile will try to leave right after, without spending the night, thereby turning your LT into a ST anyway.

Member #1005
09-30-05, 04:42
I've heard you have to be more cautious in PI than in LOS so I'm a bit wiery of going there since I'll more than likely be traveling there by myself. None of my pals like Asian gals can you believe that...!

The Philippines is not as bad as people make out providing you follow all the usual advice given. I feel that most guys who run into problems are often fuelled on beer and feel that being a tourist with money in their pocket makes them invincible. The golden rule of thumb is that when overseas, don’t let the sun, beer and being surrounded by pretty women paying attention to you – allow you to drop your guard. If you were back home would you ride in a car with a couple strangers because they claim they know you or start playing a card game with the local hods? If the answer is no then why do it whilst overseas?

The only thing I have ever seen in all my time in the Philippines, is one guy stabbing another with a large kitchen type knife during an argument.

Shame on your friends missing out they don’t know what they are missing but many guy are flying solo here I guess that 70% of the guys are single up here you will have no problems.


Can anyone tell me if the Angeles girls follow a similar protocol? What assurance is there that the Angeles bargirls are free from disease?


Tooch & Yella Man

Trust me here, there are no assurances that any bar girl is free from disease. Prostitution is not a legal profession in the Philippines so basically there are no incentives by the authorities to protect you from the clap (if you’re are lucky) its only a few bar owners who are concerned – its business. Even with the few girls getting tested means nothing especially if the day after she gets tested has unsafe sex the following day that means for the next 29 days she could be HIV positive- just do the maths here?

Take a look at the porn industry in California and that situation there with the recent Aids outbreak and they get tested for every shoot (apparently). Now if the multi million dollar porn industry isn’t 100% safe why would you expect the Philippines to fair any better? Take my advice and practice safe sex if you want to avoid any nasty diseases.

Tooch
09-30-05, 13:44
Hey guys!

Just made a booking from Macau to Clark. It only cost 4,267 PHP roundtrip! That's less than the price of a car from Manila to Angeles roundtrip.

Of course, if you start from Hong Kong, you'll need to go to Macau and perhaps spend a night. But, Macau rocks -so not a problem.

If anyone is interested, see http://tigerairways.com/ Note: the service doesn't start until next month sometime. Check the dates

Tooch

Ekspat
10-03-05, 07:16
First week of Oct is perfectly fine. Thanks for your help in advance, Ekspat.
I lost the SIM card; that's the problem.

Sorry, pal, couldn't get it. Went into the bar and asked and first waitress told me, they don't have telephone, second told me they aren't allowed to tell.
mission incomplete.
Seems you have to come yourself, what's actually not the worst option.
;-)
Cheers!

Tigerlion
10-04-05, 05:07
Ekspat, thanks for remembering. As it turns out, I might be heading out there again this Thursday.

Speaking of which, I'll be arriving in Manila around midnight (flight from HK) on Thursday. If anyone is interested in sharing a taxi to AC, let me know.

Also, anyone has ever helped a Filipina get a passport? I'm in the process of helping my little mistress get one so I can take her back to HK with me for a week.

Thanks for anyone's offer of help.


Sorry, pal, couldn't get it. Went into the bar and asked and first waitress told me, they don't have telephone, second told me they aren't allowed to tell.
mission incomplete.
Seems you have to come yourself, what's actually not the worst option.
;-)
Cheers!

Taszar
10-04-05, 10:26
I'm looking to make a trip the second half of December. With Christmas and all, is the area shut down due to girls going home for holidays or is still lively?

Lastly, I keep seeing the Wild Orchid as the hotel to stay at. What other good hotels are available. Thank you in advance.

HenryV
10-04-05, 21:32
I have asked the same question on previous posts but no answer. What is Angeles like during the X-Mas season (say 12/8 thru 12/30)? Specifically, do "many" girls return to their provinces? Is it worth going during that period?

Little help here fellas.

Thank you.

Firedick
10-05-05, 03:17
Gentlemen.

The reason your inquiries have been ignored is because the question has been asked and answered repeatedly. Please, do a search and RTFF.

In a nutshell. Lots of girls around anxious to earn a little extra up until a couple days before Christmas. Then it slows down a bit until after New Years. But there is still plenty. Don't concern yourselves with anything like a shortage.


To all "Newbies" out there. There is a lot of info on these boards. Both archived in past posts and in the members here. But the old timers will be impatient with those who don't take the time to do a little homework on their own.

FD

Member #1005
10-05-05, 07:46
Gentlemen.

The reason your inquiries have been ignored is because the question has been asked and answered repeatedly. Please, do a search and RTFF.


FD


Firedick

What can I say, you have taken the words out of my mouth here :D

Tooch
10-05-05, 14:31
Before I get slammed for not RTFF!, I have searched the Forum and it does not have this specific advice.

I am considering these three hotels - New Amsterdam, Orange Lion and Swiss Hotel. They seem to give the biggest bang for the buck. Can anyone declare a winner of these three?

From reading the posts, it seems that having a great pool in your hotel is not that big of a deal as you can go to any Hotel's pool - buy a drink, eat, swim, etc. IS that accurate?

Thanks in advance.

Falcon 95
10-05-05, 16:08
Dear fellow members,

I was able to get a lot of good information here. So I thought I should contribute a little also. I don’t have a day to day report. But here is the report on my week-long trip to AC in September. I tried my best to be entertaining, but there were some issues that I felt needed to be addressed. It’s a bit long. So my apologies in advance. Well, here it goes.

A few tidbits before I start my rambling. Bars that are open till 5am are Dirty Duck, Brown Sugar, Blue Nile, Insomnia… At least those are the ones that I know of. Of course, the Dollhouse is open 24 hours. But it’s no surprise it’s under new management. Apparently, they get raided by the authorities all the time.

Anyway, so here it goes. I stayed at the Royal Amsterdam. It’s a nice hotel right in the middle of the action, which could be a plus or a minus depending on how you look at it. The girls seem to like it. And the staff is very friendly. I think I’ll make this my “steady” hotel.

First, let me get some stuff off my chest. I like going to AC and plan to go back when I get the chance. But I think many girls are spoilt to the point where there’s no turning back. I go back and the girls say “Where’s my present? And where’s my chocolate? ” I guess the question I should be asking myself is, “Why did I go back to that bar? ” And some of the girls are getting fat and lazy. I actually do a lot of talking to the girls. Many say they were very thin when they first arrived in AC. Life must be good for the girls with all those foreign providers. We are at least partially responsible for that. We bring them chocolate, buy them drinks and food. If I was sipping on that sugar-loaded ice tea all day, I guess I would gain weight too. I’m beginning to dislike the ladies drinks. I realize it’s a necessary part of the game. But it must be the easiest way to make money in the world. The barfine is different because it involves giving it up. But the ladies drinks, you sit next to a guy and you don’t have to do a thing. Just sip the drink and get paid commission. And while you are at it, have another… By the way, the girls seem to be getting younger now. Last year, I thought 1982 or 1983 was young. But now you have girls born in 1987, although some of them may be cherries. They may be “fresh off the boat” but maybe not very good in the service department due to the lack of experience. I remember some members complaining about the cherry girls. I can see why. I asked around at a few bars. A bar could have anywhere between 10 to 12 cherry girls and many of them quite attractive. If you are interested in popping a cherry, I heard there are some ways. The easiest way or maybe I should say the most expensive way would be to just pay the 50, 000 pesos. But that’s outrageous. We are talking about the Philippines after all, not to knock off on the country. But that’s way overboard. Maybe they don’t expect anyone to pay that amount. Maybe they are just trying to preserve the cherries. The other way is you barfine a cherrygirl for a week let’s say and shower her with gifts. She falls in “love” with you and there goes the cherry. It’s been done before. So they tell me. I actually found quite a few nice cherry girls. I took one out for barhopping from Nero’s. She was kind of shy, so it wasn’t that fun. But I wasn’t talking much either that night.

In some bars, the girls are out of control, I believe. I heard the Roadhouse was a bar with rules. If that’s the case, the counter-example would be Lollipop. I think someone posted pictures where they would be providing “service” right in front of everyone. And I remember someone talking about a Lisa at Lollipop. Apparently, she provides some kind of a special service. I already knew her from before. So I asked her what that was. She’s got two kids and judging by her face and attitude she definitely has some mileage. She denied that it was her saying there were two girls named Lisa. Hmmm. I’m not so sure about that. I didn’t bother asking where the other Lisa was. It was obvious what kind of an answer I would get. Here is the reason I will probably not go back to Lollipop. By the way, in other bars the dancers will not come to you unless you ask for them. But again Lollipop doesn’t seem to have any rules. So this Lisa’s trying really hard to get a drink from me. I told her I came to have a drink with another dancer. But she wouldn’t stop. Then she picks up my drink, sips it down and tells the waitress that she’ll buy me a drink. Now what happened next is not clear to me. There was some exchange of money between Lisa and the waitress. I wasn’t drunk at all. The drink may have been on the house. And the exchange of money may have been “fake”. Or maybe she did really buy me a drink. I don’t know. Then Lisa said to me “I bought you a drink. So now it’s your turn to buy me one. ” Giving her the benefit of doubt, I said ok. But then she said, “No, you have to buy a drink for my friend also. ” That’s when I realized I was talking to the wrong girl in the wrong bar. And I never wanted to talk to her in the first place. Now I was beginning to miss the Roadhouse. So I bought a drink for another girl that I had promised earlier and then I left. It wasn’t the right place for me.

A comment about the Blue Nile… The girls there are always fighting. And it’s serious stuff like kicking and hair-pulling. I’ve never seen a fight in another bar. Another reminder that this place is not for the innocent. The innocent ones don’t last very long. I don’t bother with the girls at the Blue Nile. Too many to choose from and where do you start? I just go there to relax and listen to the music. But I do look at what kind of girls other guys barfine. I still have much to learn from the pros…

I go to AC for the GFE, which leads to the next segment of my post. For me, a barfine is a success if the girl stays for lunch the next day. And even more successful if she stays or comes back in the afternoon. So I met this girl. It’s always hard to tell what you have at first. For me it becomes obvious the next day. Maybe I’m not doing something right. So the next day, I asked her if she could stay longer. At first she said that she had to go. And then she said, “Do you want me to stay? ” And I said yes. I’m not sure why she changed her mind. I always offer to buy lunch the next day. But some girls decline. So off we went to lunch. Now this girl, she’s not fat. But she has a huge appetite. She always ate a beef dish with rice. We eventually ended up eating together four times. Now if you are on a tight budget you may not like this because a meal for two at a hotel restaurant could run around 500 pesos. A meal for the two of us at the Wild Orchid ran 600. That’s half a barfine or a trip to Santos Street for those who are calculating. I’m not a big spender. But I don’t just kick them out the next day without lunch. Now the Wild Orchid… Wow, what a place… It’s a palace compared to some of the lodgings in town. And not cheap either. But then again, if you have the dough, don’t let that stop you. It’s quite out of place in AC and more so given its location on Santos Street where you have to pass by all the dilapidated establishments.

So I barfined the same girl again that night. We didn’t go barhopping this time. We tried something new this time. We went back to the room and chatted online with her yahoo messenger “boyfriends”. Man, the Filipinas do a lot of chatting. I guess they chat whenever they have free time. I think this girl had about a hundred chatmates in all. So the girl is chatting with some obscure guy in some obscure country. And the guys all say the same thing. “I love you baby. So now show me your pussy. ” Like that’ll ever work. It might work in a pay site. Anyway, so the girl starts taking the top off while chatting with the guy. She said it was her first time to do that because you can’t really take your top off in an internet café. I guess her chatmate should be grateful that I had brought my web cam. The guy’s getting all excited. And she tells him, “Sorry but my boyfriend is here with me. ” The guy says, “I don’t care. Now show me your pussy. ” I couldn’t stop laughing. Now the girl has her bra off. Then I showed myself in the web cam and she started guiding my hand towards her breasts and her crotch area for him to see. I will never forget the look on the guy’s face. I was real glad I wasn’t him. Well, if he wanted a piece of the action, all he had to do was book a flight. I ended up chatting with the guy a little. He complimented me on my sexy “girlfriend”. I thanked him and wished him luck in finding a sexy girlfriend also. This was my last night. So I actually left once in the middle of the night to say goodbye to a girl that I had drinks with before. I wasn’t “cheating” on the girl in my room. Sorry guys I don’t do short-time.

All in all, it was a decent trip. Perhaps my post is partially negative. But it’s based on my many trips, and it’s how I feel about AC. My first time in AC, I actually felt really bad for the people. But not anymore. I don’t see any of them starving. They gain weight in AC not lose weight. And the woman with the baby that’s always begging on Field Avenue, she’s been doing that for years. She should be dead by now. Please forgive my expression. And I reckon she’ll keep doing it until they pass a law that makes begging illegal. That may not stop her either. Someone once said just screw the girls and then get out. I think that’s real good advice. But it doesn’t quite fit my personality. Please don’t get me wrong. I would go back right now if it were possible. But I’m just a little concerned. It may be becoming harder to find a decent girl in AC. But as long as the provinces keep sending us with “goods” fresh off the assembly line, who knows. Just stay away from the ones that smoke and have tattoos.

A word of caution. I have a friend who’s a waitress. I say friend because I’ve never been involved with her. She’s actually a few years older than me. I guess I’m not that old then. Anyway, I barfined her for barhopping and she told me that when they have an unsuspecting customer, the mamasan and/or the waitress would slip in an extra drink or two when the guy’s not looking or too drunk to know better. I’m not sure why she told me that. I don’t think that she was a participant in the scam. Just an observer… Out of respect to her, I won’t say which bar it is. But it’s one of the top bars. I’m sure there’s some dubious activity going on in many of the bars. To what extent, I could not say. So buyer beware. For the high-rollers, it may not make any difference. One way you can protect yourself is limit yourself to two ladies drinks in one sitting. That’s what I tried to do as much as possible. And try not to get drunk every night. I know that’s hard. And it won’t make Mr. San Miguel happy either. I was actually never drunk this time. But there’s always next time. Also, you might not want to tell the girls when you’ll return to AC. Then they’ll ask you for your e-mail address and try to keep in touch until you come back. It’s business, as usual, in AC.

I would like to finish on a positive note. This time I remembered to tip the chambermaid everyday. Making the bed, vacuuming the floor, and cleaning the bathroom is a lot more work compared to a waitress bringing a bottle of SML. Also, the hotel laundry service is not cheap since they charge by the item and have a minimum charge. So I go to this place on Field Avenue and drop off my laundry whenever I’m in AC. One day I was just passing the place on my way to margarita station when the lady came out and waved to me with a big smile. Wow, she remembers me, I said to myself. So the next day, I went there to drop off my laundry. Not only did she remember my face, but she also remembered my name. And I never stay long enough to drop off much laundry. I would only spend 30 or 40 pesos each time. It made me think twice considering the amount we splurge in the bars. You can’t even get mineral water at that price in a bar. Maybe next time I’ll “accidentally” put some stones in my laundry so that it weighs more. The honest and the hard working deserve it. And maybe this is the real reason I’ll be going back.

Falcon Out

Member #1005
10-05-05, 18:42
It was refreshing to come to the thread and actually find something interesting to read.

You are a man from my own heart, l have to agree with some of your points but on the chocolates with girls asking: “where is my present?” I always carry, what has been described as cheap chocolates, but I only give presents in return for a good service and not before. If a girl provides a shit service then she gets shown the door with no tip or presents. Girls that hang around or come back the following day get a present.

I still don’t get the crack with these guys seeking these Cherry girls, (50,000 Pesos – for what, get real??) because the best girl I have met in AC was 24 had two kids and never asked for anything from me but was happy to hang with me.

But I do keep in touch with many girls there now, a couple have moved on but they still e-mail me every now and again asking when I am coming back in town. But I agree if you know what you are doing AC is very cheap to stay including the laundry at Mamacita’s, but it is one of those cities where yes people do move on to pastures new but they always seem to be replaced by another new face.

Falcon I know you said you were young-ish but I hope your weren’t born in 1995? :)

Tooch

RTFF, only joking there :D

But for my money I would prefer the Hotel New Amsterdam, but I say that with a word of caution because every time I tip a hotel the next time I go back it seems to be full of mongers, and I have trouble getting a room (I guess there must be a lot of lurkers here).

Firedick
10-05-05, 23:26
The extra chit in the drink "jar" is a scam that goes on everywhere, Thailand too. You can greatly limit your risk by paying each time you order.

On my last trip to AC I dropped some laundry off at Sunshine Laundry. When I picked it up two days later it was accompanied by an order I had left on my previous trip. 3 years to the week prior ! Not only remembered my name but knew where they put my stuff. Unreal.


Tooch,

Can't help you, as I haven't stayed in any of those. But yes it is true about the pools. I don't know of any hotels that have a problem with non guests using their pools as long as they buy food or drink or pay a nominal charge. But a pool is a requirement in a hotel for me. Good luck.

FD

Professional
10-07-05, 06:17
First I would like to thank everybody for such a wonderful site. Thank very much for all the information I have gather so far.

Also I would like to add I am not sure whether I should be posting in the AC board or here so I posted on both.

Now for the question, I will be landing in MNL on Saturday at 10:00 am thus I can make it to “fly the bus” (3:00 run) to AC the same day and save a little cash instead of taking a cab but I was thinking should I try Manila first to just get my feet wet? Maybe try LA Café?

What to you experts think should I stay one or two night in Manila first to get my feet wet or just head out to AC?

Should I save a little bit of money and take the “fly the bus” or should I take a cab?

Thanks again for all your help.

Columpuss
10-07-05, 08:44
professional

Skip Manila! The girls are maybe a little better looking, but much more expensive. Remember! Most pretty girls are stuck up and spoiled. Most girls in AC are more real and willing to please. It's all depended on your budget and taste. For me, when you turn off the lights, they all look the same, it's what they are willing to do that matter. Manila is to Metropolian and full of shadey charaters so what out. Good luck bud. Send me a private message for more advise about AC

X Man
10-07-05, 12:51
You need to spend some time in Manila, I would think.

There are a lot of things to do, while AC there isn't much to do except bar hop/drink, fark, and swim in the pool (assuming your hotel has one).

Well, I'll assume you have to make it back to MLA for your flight. Spend your last couple days there, especially if you want to do some shopping.

Have fun.

Professional
10-08-05, 02:44
First I would like to thank everybody for all there great advice and to clarify. Money is not the issue I am just trying to get the biggest bang for the bucks sort of speak. As I read the forum I would say that is true for most of us. Why spend the money if you do not have too?

The way I figure it is if I stay in Manila the hotel will cost me 1500 (executive plaza) fly the bus will cost me 500. If I took a cab straight to AC it would cost me 2200. Thus it would save me money to stay in Manila for one night. The only real expense is I might pay more is the bar fine. The other thing I am considering is I land on a Saturday at 10:00 am and from what I gather from the forum most of the most beautiful women come out on weekend only. I do not mind paying a little more for better quality.

On the other hand if I took the fly by bus straight out to MNL I would pay 500 plus taxi approx 250 total of 750. and can get start from there. Arriving at 10 am gives me a lot of options and I guess that is why I need some advice too many options to choice from.

I can afford a couple of days in Manila but I figure one day in Manila to get my feet wet. Next day to AC and from there I can make my decision. Is the women from Manila worth the extra pesos? But if I started off in AC I would not know if I should cut some time off of AC and head back to Manila or visa versa. What do you guy think?

From the research I have done it seems like the best place for the money is Hotel Royal Amsterdam this seems to give the best value for the dollar from what I have been reading on the board.

Also I would just like to thank everybody again for all your great advise hopefully I can repay this debt.

Thank you very much

AdventureMike
10-10-05, 12:26
Hi,

I am a solo monger here for my first time in AC and staying at Mo's / Kokonutz (Central Park and Swiss were booked for the next few days) for my last few days before heading home. Any other solo / duo mongers (hetero) want to hang out and scope bars and clubs for drinks and ladies together?

I am a 38 y.o. world traveller (42 countries now) from California and am up for plenty of drinks as well for my last few nights in PI.

PM me if interested in meeting up. Mo's conveniently has computers in each of the rooms so I can check back a few times tomorrow.

Later and happy mongering

Phenomsg
10-10-05, 17:15
First I would like to thank everybody for all there great advice and to clarify. Money is not the issue I am just trying to get the biggest bang for the bucks sort of speak. As I read the forum I would say that is true for most of us. Why spend the money if you do not have too?

On the other hand if I took the fly by bus straight out to MNL I would pay 500 plus taxi approx 250 total of 750. and can get start from there. Arriving at 10 am gives me a lot of options and I guess that is why I need some advice too many options to choice from.This is what I have posted in The Philippines FAQ thread. If you are staying in the Manila Bay area, a faster alternative is to take a cab (below P100) to the Philippines Rabbit Terminal near Dorotheo Jose LRT station (Rizal Ave)

<<For budget travellers: Before direct flights into Clark, I usually board a public bus from Manila Airport (turn right from exit of Terminal 1 and left from exit of Centennial 2 to go to the main road a minute or two's walk) . For 9 Pesos, drop off at EDSA at the first overhead pedestrian bridge AFTER the Taft MRT Station. The journey could take 15 to 30 minutes depending on traffic conditions. From the roadside, wait for either Victory Liner or Five Star Buses (about 130 Pesos) that heads for Dagupan or Bagio. Alternatively, either retrace your steps and walk 5 minutes to the Five Star terminal at Aurora Avenue or cross the overhead bridge and turn right to the Victory Liner terminal (it might be longer but you get to wait in relative comfort in the bus (frequency about 30 minutes) From here at the southern end of EDSA, the journey to Balintawak in the north of the city takes 40 minutes to 1 1/2 hours depending on traffic. Another hour or so will will take you to the Malabacat (Dau) terminal. Alight there and either board a trike for the 5 minutes ride to Balibago for 50 Pesos or walk 5 minutes to MacArthur Highway for a jeepney to the Checkpoint for 7.5 Pesos.>>

Ekspat
10-12-05, 09:29
What is Angeles like during the X-Mas season (say 12/8 thru 12/30)? Specifically, do "many" girls return to their provinces?

Hi all,

as far as I was told on my last trip, the place is still well happening.

Unfortunately not "many" girls return back, but the lookers are gone, since they earn good money. So they can afford to go back to their families in the province to celebrate Xmas and NYE.

So the party is going on, but without girls above 7.5/10.
Cheers!

(Be aware, second hand info, since I haven't been there yet end of Dec. But I'm thinking of going there end of this year)

Phenomsg
10-12-05, 11:45
I'll be back there again this Saturday; my seventh trip this year.

First stepped foot in this little sextown over 26 years ago and got hooked ever since; except for a long absence of 13 years at a stretch, been enjoying the B&B (Booze and Broads) there practically every year.

Tigerlion
10-15-05, 02:11
I came back to Hotel Amsterdam at 4:00AM one night, a 10-year old girl approached me and was selling condoms for 20 pesos each. I don't need to tell you all how many things are wrong with this picture.

Speaking of Hotel Amsterdam, it is a good hotel. Though I had a room in the back facing that little street with the misc shops and it got very noisy at times. There's a local restaurant that blasted karoake music all night long. The wood panels on the windows cut down the noise but you could still hear it.

I stayed at the Swiss Chalet last time. The location is better, I think. But one of the the guards has a big mouth and tells a girl I brought back that I had many, many girls. This could be an issue if you attract the jealous types, which seems to be the case for me.

As far as barhopping is concerned, Voodoo, Roadhouse, and Blackjack are all disappointing for me. I like the Roadhouse girls' school outfits and Voodoo's outfits though.

I went into Lollipop one night and within literally 30 seconds I had a girl on my lap and a tongue inside my mouth. I couldn't sit back and enjoy the scene, needless to say. The next time I went back, I was flanked by two girls who gave me a little "protection" from the Lollipop girls :) Even so, this didn't stop two or three girls from constantly flirting and trying to make eye contact with me. I think if I only brought one girl, it would leave room for at least one Lollipop girl to approach from the other side. I didn't see any wild stuff. But judging how aggressive these Lollipop girls are, it wouldn't surprise me.

La Pasha doesn't get mentioned a lot but is a nice bar. There are quite a few girls I wouldn't mind taking back with me there.

Check out the photo section for some pics and reports of individual girls.

My other nights were spent with a girl who no longer works at AC. One was a young cutie named Gemma. She used to work at Dirty Duck. She's full of energy. And then I hooked up with a girl named Shirly from Doll House again for the second time. She says I am the first and only guy who has barfined her. I am skeptical though. Anyone wanted to call her on that?

Oh, Candyman. I went to Club Illusion but got there too early. My trip was short so I didn't make it back.

Candyman2005
10-18-05, 01:17
Oh, Candyman. I went to Club Illusion but got there too early. My trip was short so I didn't make it back.Tiger,

I understand how things go once you touch ground in AC, you my have a plan to go to certain clubs before you arrive in AC but once you get there plans always seem to change. So many clubs and so many girls you can never keep to one and if you are on a short trip its difinitely not going to happen. But its good to hear that you had a good time, maybe oneday I will have a chance to meet you over in the land of P-heaven.

Did you support the 10yr and buy one of those condoms, I guess it was like the girlscouts selling cookies to her. She must have read some of our post about BB and wanted you to practice safe sex.

Firedick
10-21-05, 05:08
I was curious for prices at most of the places in the Philippines like:

Barfine? 0 to 10,000 piso (depends on place)

Short Time 0 to 5,000 (depends on how short you are)

Long Time 0 to 50,000 (depends on how jealous her boyfriend is)

overnight 0 to 100,000 (depends on how rich/important her family is)

Longer? multiply the above by days required

Thanks


Please RTFF. What an inane and lazy post.

On The Go
10-21-05, 06:17
I could not have said it any better Firedick. Go do your homework "In Korea"!. It just pisses me off when I see posts such as this, as so many members here take there valuable time to post informative information for other mongers to learn from, and then you see a post made like "In Korea" and it makes you wonder why even bother anymore.

Firedick
10-22-05, 21:15
Didn't mean it to be a "thread killer' though.

Nomis
10-23-05, 05:53
Didn't mean it to be a "thread killer' though.Not the greatest response Fedrick but hopefully you meant well. Hopefully you were just joking but some people take this tread seriously. I hope going forewad you provide better info. Let's chill everyone, hopefully he was kidding (I hope). If not, then he needs to get a real life!

Firedick
10-23-05, 20:06
No fucking way !

We don't need stupid questions that have been asked and answered dozens of times since the inception of this board.

Newbies, do a little homework. There is a wealth of info already posted.

There is a reason that RTFF is in the abbreviations list.

Chill indeed. My life is quite fulfilling thank you, not that your opinion means crap to me.


FD.

On The Go
10-23-05, 20:30
No fucking way !

We don't need stupid questions that have been asked and answered dozens of times since the inception of this board.

Newbies, do a little homework. There is a wealth of info already posted.

There is a reason that RTFF is in the abbreviations list.

Chill indeed. My life is quite fulfilling thank you, not that your opinion means crap to me.


FD.
Nomis,

GO BACK AND READ MY POST FROM 10/21!!!!!!. This explains why we react the way we do to some of these treads and posts!

Normang
10-23-05, 20:53
for those that have had repeated trips to ac and have hung around the fields area for awhile, might have noticed a change in attitude over the past little while....

the girls appear fatter, less interested, more pushy for lds and tips, and slowly venturing away from the once famous gfe. (girlfriend experience)

some of them have begun to feel that their "obligation" or the "customer's will" is to pull a "pattaya-routine" of "bang-em-once-and-leave-em".

the most recent "cure" for this syndrome, is better choice of bar to frequent. there are several of these that are "off the beaten path" i.e. fields, that mostly cater/are frequented by veteran-visitors and expat residents, but are openly welcome to anyone.

the variety and quality fo both looks and attitude at these bars is surprising, definately worth a peek the next time you are in ac, and feel like venturing up fields, past checkpoint (where the smelly, dirty market is located) towards the america hotel (a dump)

the bars are: gentleman's club, stampede, touch of class, emotions, and a little farther up. club rio, nifty's, matrix brawn.

enjoy.

Progman
10-23-05, 22:45
No fucking way !

We don't need stupid questions that have been asked and answered dozens of times since the inception of this board.

Newbies, do a little homework. There is a wealth of info already posted.

There is a reason that RTFF is in the abbreviations list.

Chill indeed. My life is quite fulfilling thank you, not that your opinion means crap to me.


FD.

What's a barfine?

Hehehe... sorry FD. I couldn't help it...

...(prog)

Nomis
10-24-05, 03:28
On the Go and Firedick, sorry but my response was actually for In Korea and not for Firedick. Sorry for the confusion. This site does provide people valuable info and hopefully the few lousy posts don't ruin it for everyone.


Nomis,

GO BACK AND READ MY POST FROM 10/21!!!!!!. This explains why we react the way we do to some of these treads and posts!

Firedick
10-24-05, 21:25
Not the greatest response Fedrick but hopefully you meant well. Hopefully you were just joking but some people take this tread seriously. I hope going forewad you provide better info. Let's chill everyone, hopefully he was kidding (I hope). If not, then he needs to get a real life!


How could this be for "In Korea"? Seems pretty clearly (albiet poorly spelled) addressed to me. Sorry, I aint buying it.

Your "get a real life" comment was way out of line.

But lets drop it.

FD

Firedick
10-24-05, 21:28
Come on. You telling me that married life has robbed you even of your memory ? :)

Good to see you're still lurking at least.

FD

PS: Sorry about your Chargers. That was painful to watch.

Normang
10-24-05, 23:39
The following are the bars which I recommend, should you wish to pay the full 1200 (or 1300) peso BF-rate....expecting the girl to stay with you overnight, but so quickly discover their unwritten "policy" of "once bang" and then "wham bam, thank you Sir, but I have to go now" with a miltitude of patented excuses to follow.

Naturally, you wouldn't want someone to stay with you against their will, so you let it go. (come to think of it, its still cheaper than a Pattaya "wham bam ST", albeit the higher hotel/food price in AC)

Neros Bar
Blue Nile
Bedrock (now part of Neros)
Mistys
Champagne (but less than before)
Camelot
Brown Sugar (less than the others)
Sir Lancelot (formerly Volcano)
Viper Room (no longer open...no big surprise)
Angels (sorry John, but that's the truth)
Bunny Ranch
Roadhouse (notorious for the infamous "runner/non-performer" syndrome (sorry Mark. Not your fault, but true)

Illusions
Flamingo (not a hope in hell, once Tango the papasan left)
Las Vegas (since it was re-sold)
Dollhouse (no surprise)
Bananitas (Just in case you wondered why the place is ALWAYS blatantly empty)

All the more reason to frequent the smaller bars for those seeking a GFE.

If you want STs with "beauty-queens" that have an "attitude", you are welcome to frequent Blue Nile, the champion of them all. No guilt, no "butterfly" comments...as the girls there really don't give a shit. The shorter the time, the happier they are. Hell, they should offer Taxi-Rooms in there....you won't even have to leave the bar.

Member #1005
10-25-05, 09:05
comments...as the girls there really don't give a shit. The shorter the time, the happier they are. Hell, they should offer Taxi-Rooms in there....you won't even have to leave the bar.

The Blue Nile Executive does have some rooms on-site however, a bit on the pricy side though.

Normang
10-25-05, 22:11
Yes, they are the VIP rooms. They are semi-kareoke-room-setup with wall-lined lounges. I remember Richard bumbling something about a 3000peso charge for them (I believe all or a portion of that is consumable with drinks, which are overpriced to start with)

It is reported that many of the Korean customers are conned/coerced into paying/going in there, as they usually get romantic-less STs anyways, and that way the girls never have to leave the bar or even change their uniforms.

In the "ol' days" it was perhaps possible to truck-em across the street to the ol' Tropicana hotel for a cheap ST room. Now that has changed to the overpriced Blue Nile Executive Hotel with $60 USD rooms :-) so the option is to drag them around the corner, or through the passway at Chick n' Ribs Restaurant (next door) to the Vian Lodge on the small dirt-road behind Cambodia Bar. Taxi-Rooms are only 300peso and are quite large and clean....other than having the drab decor of a "Yentl" movie :-)

Progman
10-26-05, 00:43
Come on. You telling me that married life has robbed you even of your memory ? :)

Good to see you're still lurking at least.

FD

PS: Sorry about your Chargers. That was painful to watch.

Yeah, I still lurk but only when I'm on travel. Honeyko has a knack for finding out where I've been surfing. :) Anyway, still know the terms of course. Still getting on-the-spot reports from friends living in AC. Bottom line is life is still the same. Barfines are up a bit but the peso is so weak it really doesn't hurt. I'll be in Hong Kong and Thailand in a few weeks on business. The temptation is pretty strong... Talaga!

...(prog)

P.S. Go figure with the Chargers. Best team in years but we seem to always self-distruct.

Normang
10-27-05, 00:36
Yes, Kokomos, Margarita, Subdelicious, Salvatores, and the various restaurants/dining located inside the hotels in AC are readily available and nearby, but there reside many gems around town that deserve mention/recommendation. Several of them are very much “local” places, where you will be/feel like to only foreigner there, but that won’t matter, as they DO get a few “regular” residents-expats in there.

As many of these places are truly “local”, it is recommended if you are bringing along a female companion, that she isn’t openly dressed like a bargirl and you guys don’t fondle-her at the dining table. It helps if you are dressed decently as well. Nothing formal…only decent. Yes, I know we are in AC, and everyone knows what’s going on in Fields, but it’s not necessary to “flaunt” it in the locals faces.

Here is a small list:

HALLAH HOTEL: (on Friendship Hwy, past AC1 Gym)

Has simple terrific Korean food. Most Koreans in town hang out here (and at the Spa, at the rear of the building) not a large menu, but really good taste. Friendly staff, along woth the Korean lady that owns the place (and speaks Tagalog, which is a riot). Prices are a bit steep…nothing less than 200peso, and many of the imported items run 350 to 500peso. Service is quick and good. They also have a stocked Korean-Grocery beside the restaurant.

Naturally, you will be the only customer in there that isn’t Korean, aside from the Filipino staff, but that’s part of the fun. The owner is super-friendly, and that makes u for it.

HANAMI: (On the end of Don Juico/Perimeter Rd. just before reaching Friendship Gate/Hwy)

Simply the most authentic Japanese food in town. Terrific, and pricey….most in the 350 to 700peso range. It feels like you are the only customer in there, outside of the peak times, but they do have a regular gang that eats there. Beautiful, romantic, and a peaceful quiet place to eat. Service is a bit dull, but if you sit at the sushi-bar, the chef is quite attentive. Primarily Japanese, and higher HIGHER end Filipino clientele.

COTTAGE KITCHEN: (on Don Juico/Perimeter Rd. past the VFW when heading from Fields. Right beside Woddy’s Gift Shop)

Terrific southern and downright American cooking. Huge portions, prices are on the higher-end, but a tremendously fair price for the quantity of food you get, and the quality and taste of it. Service is terrific. A place both popular and famous. The also have Filipino food on the menu for your companion. Primarily foreign clientele, a few rare Filipinos.

C’ DINING: (On Don Juico/Perimeter Rd. between Bubbles and that little new plaza where the Blue Book office is located. If you are scooting up Don Juico from Fields, just go a little past the MASSAGE place/Good Times Bar about 100 meters)

It has a very small discreet frontage, but its quite large and spacious inside, complete with an “upscale” interior dining room, and a beautiful outside alfresco dining garden, with lush foliage, water fall, and large screen TV.

The food is fanatical Italian, cooked by a passionate Chris Locher, their European Chef. He is a truly nice guy that seems obsessed about cooking as some of are obsessed about Filipinas. The food, flavor and panache…truly exceed all expectations. It’s like being in a different country. The service is polite, professional and attentive. The food is divine. Prices reflect the quality ingredients of the food, and the skill of the kitchen staff. Items start at 350, average at around 420, and reach up to the 550-650 range. You can easily expect to spend 1000peso per person, including basic beverages, sans alcohol or wine, for a decent appetizer and main course, or main course and desert. Portions are generous. They have a respectable small wine cellar of unusual imports you don’t usually see on the wine racks at the new Robinsons Mall Supermarket . Forget about taking that “special BF” over there, as she probably wont like nor appreciate the food. Just go with a buddy/s or even go alone. You deserve it. It will be the best $18 USD meal you ever had in AC.

Quite a few foreigner clientele, but predominately higher-class Filipinos, many “big-shots” in the city and surrounding areas. Definitely dress accordingly.

IKABOD: (on Malabanias Street, past formerly Silver Bullet Bar, towards Hidden Vale, left turn at Hensonville Homes, down Malabanias Street…past that garden supply place on the left…..its an outside restaurant…with countless Nipa-Huts on the right side of the road, across the street from a new small Apartelle complex)

This is a truly LOCAL place, although a few rare long-time resident expats go there with their wives/families. The dining is completely outdoors. You sit on a bench in a Nipa-Hut, with lighting and good fan overhead. The fan is powerful enough to deter the heat and the mosquitoes, but if your legs are “attractive”, you might get a few “nibbles”.

The food is terrific. Put aside all your misconceptions of Filipino food when you eat at Ikabod. The taste is terrific; hence the place fills up easily. The waiters are pretty good and quick on the service, and there are buzzers mounted on each booth, should you require attention. The only drawback on the place is that there is active karaoke being played at several of the tables, sometimes frequently, sometimes rarely…it depends on the crowd. They only open at 5:00pn, so if you grab a dinner then, it should still be peaceful.

They have a large BBQ pit, and do terrific work thereof. The girls love it, and so do most other Pinoys, making it a very popular place. You’ll look like a hero, even knowing of the place, to bring a girl there. The prices are insanely modest. You can eat there for 100 peso per person, to a max of 250peso. Menu items run from 40 peso to 120 peso.

BLUE BOAR INN: (entrance is just off the turn from Don Juico/Perimeter Rd to the VFW..opposite the trike station. You can see the sign off the street. Walk down the pathway about 20 meters, and you are there)

Now, this is a real hidden gem. The place is ultra-simple in décor, with a pool table and a few super-friendly GROs there. Don’t be fooled by the sublime homey atmosphere. The food is terrific. Prices are fair…much for less than 120 peso. The food is brown, hot, and tasty. If you ever wanted an “at-home” feeling with both the food and décor, you gotta visit the Blue boar Inn. Hell! For a 80peso LD, you could have one of the GRO’s feed you, even bang you in one of the “guest rooms” for 700 peso. Primarily foreigner clientele.

MISTER FROSTY: (on Fields, at the corner of Teodoro St. where Norma’s Money Changer is. Another location on the small street across McArthur Hwy from Savers Mall, and another one off the parking lot of the Pure Gold Store in Dau. Many other locations)

Now you are going to laugh at me, but this is one fast-food enterprise that is tremendously underrated. The food is simple and delicious, with terrific quick service. It seems like an accident for the place to be that good. If you girl likes Shrimp Sinigang, then you gotta get her to try theirs. Its delicious, fresh, and ridiculously cheap. You both can eat there for less than 100 peso. Its beats the “canteen” hands down. They got a generous menu, with burgers, sandwiches, even ribs and skinny steaks. All for bottom-barrel prices. Even their thin-crust pizza is completely edible. When a girl cons you to taking three of her friends out to eat, head for Mister Frostys. They all like it, its clean, the aircon is good, the staff friendly, the service quick, the price cheap…a winning combination. A decent small burger is a measly 40 peso.

Don’t believe me. Try it for yourself. You will be utterly surprised. The patrons are primarily Filipino, but the Fields location gets quite a few foreigner customers who are pleasingly surprised at the quality of the place.

CHICK N’ RIBS: (almost at the end of Fields, beside Blue Nile Bar, right beside the stairs leading up to Blue Nile Executive.)

Good food, terrific ribs, both pork and ribs. Moderate pricing. Lousy….at times slow service. Aircon, clean place. Predominately Filipino patrons, a little surprising considering the location, with a smattering of foreigner diners.

BURGER MACHINE: (in that little plaza parking lot at the foot of Fields…where the two Western Union joint are. Ask any bargirl…they will know)

Again, you are bound to laugh at this one, but think of it like this….there are tons of these kinda-like outside-dinettes in the USA. The burgers are actually very tasty, the buns generously large. The only thing you oughta be warned about is their “style” of putting the coleslaw ON TOP of the burger patty before they place the bun on top. STOP THEM!! (actually, I once forgot to stop them, and I ate it anyways…it wasn’t at bad as it sounds) for 34peso for that generous size of burger, made fresh in your view…you cant really go wrong.

Sitting out there in the heat, enjoying a decent burger, watching the girls troop by to pick up their “luv-money” at Western Union, is a sight to see. Simply the best pick-up joint in town. You will never see a foreigner eat there. They don’t know what their missing.

RUMPA: (on A. Surla Street, otherwise known as “Hygiene Street”. Runs between McArthur and the foot of A.Santos “Blow Row” street)

Food is good, décor is semi-50’s Diner-style with booths lining the place, plus tables in the center, and in a side-room. Service is ok, but a tad inattentive. Don’t expect to be spoiled here. Any alteration/editing of your order other than what is on the menu, is often misunderstood and utterly confused, so its best to merely “go with the flow” and merely order by pointing to the item. Don’t ask for any info about what you are ordering, as often the response will be merely a blank look…perhaps a shrug and a forwarding your question to two or even three more employees. Call it free dining entertainment.

Again, the food and overall atmosphere is very good. This place is one of the rare “local-style” ones….from those that I have mentioned here, where you will see frequent foreigners.

RIB EYE: (on McArthur Ave. right before the Casino Filipino, on the same side of the street)

It’s a small place (used to be larger next-door, but they relocated) with as an outside bar/dinette and some cute outside seating. The inside is small and simple with metal furniture. Service is so-so at best, but they DO have excellent-tasting tender steaks. Smaller portions are in the 250 peso range, while the standard steaks run from 600 to 850/950 peso. They eliminate the common perception of steaks in AC being tough and chewy. Their steaks are tender, tasty and juicy. If you love steaks, then this is your place to go. Primarily Filipino patrons, rare foreigners. The place might appear a little bit intimidating from passersby.

SPENCERS: (in Savers Mall, where the former BPI used to be)

Terrific food with huge menu and excellent attentive service. This place has become a popular eatery since they opened. Good sushi and other Asian cuisine also available. The menu has so much variety on it, it never gets boring. Medium price range, although they have regular assortment of specials daily. Surprisingly rare for foreigner patrons, perhaps due to the place/décor/menu looking far too “trendy”, this is the exact motive of the place.

ANGELES FRIED CHICKEN: (across McArthur from Savers Mall, down that street with the empty guard booth in the center, past a Mr. Frosty location)

Good menu, good food, good price, hence they have been around since the Marcos times, and the décor attests to that. Décor is a bit dark and bleak, but a peaceful place to eat.

Their chicken is terrific IMHO. Primarily Filipino patrons, although you sometimes see a foreigner expat there.

FORTUNE HONG KONG: (opposite the Casino Filipino on McArthur)

Considered the best and most popular Chinese food place in town. Terrific Peking Duck, fried rice, and other dishes to many to mention. Attentive service, and ultra-bright décor. If you want to see how your BF really looks in bright light…bring her here. Prices are fair and portions large. Taste is good. Dress appropriately, as you might get funny “looks” by the other customers if you dress like a slob. If you are into Chinese food, this s the place to go. Occasional foreigner patronage.

DIDDI’S PIZZA:

A quaint, simple little hangout. Food is much like the style of Mr. Frostys. Good size, decent taste, with low price. A lot of bang for your buck here. A lot of regular locals eat there, so keep your “respect” in both demeanor and dress. The pizza tastes like something kids would like, but the thin crust is terrific. Rare foreigners seen there.

DAINTY LOAF: (downtown AC, right beside Nepo Mall’s main entrance)

A cafeteria-style diner, with ultra-bright/clean interior. You grab a tray, choose food/baked goods from the display, slide down to the cashier, pay and be seated.
Nice view of Nepo and surrounds. Food is very good in taste and the prices are fair. Dress and behave accordingly, as a lot of the “higher-classed” Filipinos eat here, and you don’t want to embarrass yourself. Leave your “Python Jacket” and tattoos at home. Few foreigners eat there, albeit the few that live downtown, primarily in Villa Theresa.

TOLL HOUSE: (downtown on Rosario Street, same street running in front of Jenra Mall, past Holy Angel University, past PNP Station 1, right across the street from UnionBank)

It looks like a small single-level building out front, but is huge and multi-level inside. They have lots of parties and events there. The service is perhaps the worst in AC, with completely ignorant and attention less wait staff. You might as well just approach the counter and order/pay for the food yourself, although the food comes relatively quick.
The star of the place is the food. It is terrific and at a ridiculously low price…sort of like an “Ikabod”, but indoors and with terrific aircon.

Busy at lunchtime and dinner, but occupied the rest of the day as well. A busy place, with many business people eating there, along with groups of bank-tellers and Holy Angel students (with a higher meal budget than eating at Jolibee)

Naturally, dress and behave accordingly. Few….very few foreigners ever eat there, sometimes only long-time residents of AC with their wives/families.

So, that’s the scoop. I am sure there are others out there that I have either not discovered, or have, but decided were unworthy to mention, like Max’s Restaurant (one on the Dau expressway, opposite the Victory Liner Terminal, the other on the road out of Mountainview) or City Lunch (a few hundred metes from Fortune Hong Kong), Molly Malones (at the base of the former Tropicana Hotel, now Blue Nile Executive Hotel, opposite Neros) which still maintains consistent great food, or the new Wild Orchid’s Dining Area, which has surprisingly better food than the Orchid Inn, or Shinbi (a new large Chinese joint, on Friendship Highway, who’s food doesn’t impress me in the least, or Restaurant Verona, which has very decent food or the Southern Star Hotel, which has good food but ever-shitty service or the good ol’ Swaggy, good food, but service sometimes slow, and irregular……I was trying to share the “unknown” kinda places…when you get tired and bored with the rest.

Feel free to add any more you have discovered.

Normang
10-27-05, 02:07
Honey,

Hello how are you? I'm waiting your call everyday, nothing I just miss you. Well I really need your help I need to pay my apartment this oct 27 and my electric and water bill the main problem is I don't have money and I still owe my cousin 7000. I need your help but I know you don't have money in canada it is in the philippines but pls do me a way to help me. Do me a favor you borrow money to brother xxxxx and tell him to give it to me because I need to pay the 7, 000 that I owe to my cousin and 4, 500 to my apartment. Pls help me xxxxx I need your help pls talk to brother xxxxxx to lend you money and then give it to me so I can solve my problem pls do it pls I need to pay all of this on oct29-31 pls help me.

Take care miss you lot's of love,

Sugoi
10-27-05, 04:57
Come on. You telling me that married life has robbed you even of your memory ? :)

Good to see you're still lurking at least.

FD

PS: Sorry about your Chargers. That was painful to watch.

Prog,

You're a Chargers fan? I am a HUGE Chargers fan... Season ticket holder and have travelled to a few road games...

Frequent Flier
10-27-05, 10:16
Prog,

You're a Chargers fan? I am a HUGE Chargers fan... Season ticket holder and have travelled to a few road games...

NC State fan here. Waiting for my fellow wolf packer to get his chance at Quarterback. I believe that they will trade him soon if Drew keeps playing well.

Firedick
10-27-05, 21:32
Excellent post on the eateries. Good enough that I pasted it to an office doc.

I would like to add a concern about Rumpa. They've had closings due to hygene. Both sewage and vermin. This happened quite some time ago and I apologize to Rumpa if these problems have been solved.

I would add Zapatas to the list of worthy places to try, but I am bias.

I haven't tried all of the places you listed, but agree wholeheartedly with your selections of Cottage Kitchen and Angeles Fried Chicken.

FD

Normang
10-28-05, 03:34
To call a spade a spade, Rumpa's kitchen could be viewed as a shithole, but the food is good, so don't look into the kitchen. LOL!

The staff there, from waitresses, to kitchen-staff, and obviously the management. All appear like they sincerely don't give a shit about the place at all. Eat there a few times, and this unfortunately is blatantly evident.

But the food is still somehow good, almost like the food is running on automatic pilot, while the crew sit and stare at the ceiling.

A true Pinoy business tradition. LOL

Sugoi
10-28-05, 07:21
NC State fan here. Waiting for my fellow wolf packer to get his chance at Quarterback. I believe that they will trade him soon if Drew keeps playing well.

I know this isn't the right place for this but, I have to respond. I really think that they will trade Rivers after this year. Brees is just a few years older and has proven himself. They don't want to go through the growing pains of a new QB with the talent they have now in LT and Gates.

I have 2 tickets to the Chargers/Chiefs game this Sunday. 50 yard line, 5 rows from the field. They might go to waste so if someone is in the area, let me know soon...

Dave Ken
11-01-05, 21:03
Anyone give me the names of bars or expat contacts in AC where I can join local expat golf days.

Thanks

Columpuss
11-02-05, 10:09
quit the football shit guys!! I mean it

Phenomsg
11-03-05, 06:27
A fine listing you've got there.

I would like to add a few quickie snack places to supplement your largely full meal eateries:

CUEVAS BAKERY & HOT PANDESA: Pandesas are bite sized nuggets of Filipino bread. Best eaten fresh and hot from the oven. Delicious. A good filler with the charcoal-roasted whole chicken and slabs of spareribs from the many roadside stalls along fields. The little corner shop is located near the checkpoint at where Fields Ave joins Perimeter Road, a short distance after Chow King and just before the row of shops selling wet market produce. 10 pesos for 10 pieces. May the luck be with you as they are usually sold out seven times out of ten that I tried to purchase. for takeaway only

SHAWARMA: I never noticed the actual name of this place but its on Fields Ave, near to and along the same side as Hotel Royal Amsterdam. They serve Branyani rice besides the chicken and beef shawarma that I usually go for in between meals. 45 pesos for the standard and a little more (10 pesos?) for the cheese adder. The spicy chilly sauce is a delight for those with a fiery tongue. for both takeaway & dine-in

El SOMBRERO: A hat maker for a long time, they had a couple of years ago converted the front portion of the shop into a local eatery very popular with the local denizens from the bars. Good and cheap Filipino food; either pre-cooked or on order from the kitchen. And they serve burgers too. My favourite is a piping hot bowl of chicken (sometimes alternating with beef) mami. Great as a in-between-beers snack. And I love the fried minced garlic that I sprinkled on in very generous amounts. Only 20 pesos (23 for takeaways) a bowl...and the iced water is free. for both takeaway & dine-in

LECHON BABOY: Whole roasted pig. I usually buy back to my hotel a quarter kilo (70 pesos) chopped in tiny pieces in the morning. Beautiful with the pandesa from Cuevas Bakery. Best time is between 9 and 10 am when the skin is still very crispy and crunchy. Very sinfully loaded with cholesterols but I ignored the thick chunks of fat and concentrate on the heavenly skin and to a lesser extend, the meat. Its at the make-shift shop on the right along MacArthur Highway after the right turn from Fields Ave. Run by a friendly couple. There's another one across the road but the quality is not as good as this one. for takeaway only


Yes, Kokomos, Margarita, Subdelicious, Salvatores, and the various restaurants/dining located inside the hotels in AC are readily available and nearby, but there reside many gems around town that deserve mention/recommendation. Several of them are very much “local” places, where you will be/feel like to only foreigner there, but that won’t matter, as they DO get a few “regular” residents-expats in there.

As many of these places are truly “local”, it is recommended if you are bringing along a female companion, that she isn’t openly dressed like a bargirl and you guys don’t fondle-her at the dining table. It helps if you are dressed decently as well. Nothing formal…only decent. Yes, I know we are in AC, and everyone knows what’s going on in Fields, but it’s not necessary to “flaunt” it in the locals faces.

Here is a small list:

Columpuss
11-03-05, 11:35
Sorry FD

I forgot that this forum is called "Stupid-American-Sport"

Can you read the word "International" in your URL?
Most of the world just don't care!! Got it?

Mahku
11-03-05, 12:44
You mean it ? Or what, you'll take your ball and go home ?

Are we keeping you from posting something useful ? I thought not.

Go Rams.

FD

If the Chiefs don't play better next time I may take my ball and go home.

Firedick
11-03-05, 19:12
Name me a forum that does not go off topic. My point is that this thread is slow, thus we are not getting in the way of anything. Not interested ? Fine, ignore it.


Anyone want to talk about cooking or fine wines ?

FD

Cebu Local
11-04-05, 02:22
Name me a forum that does not go off topic. My point is that this thread is slow, thus we are not getting in the way of anything. Not interested ? Fine, ignore it. But you sound very silly whinning about it.

Yeah, I got it.



Anyone want to talk about cooking or fine wines ?

FDOK FD
What wine goes well with watching football games??aside from beer what do you think goes with games??? Just Joking.btw Columpuss you posted before about dentists,No problem with that,Lets leave FD and that American"Ball game" discussion alone.Sorry FD,I am into Soccer,the "real"Football for the rest of the world

Columpuss
11-04-05, 11:41
It's not me FD, it's my little "son"

He's been away from AC for a few months now and misses playing two-ball-billiard and only wants to hear discussions about it, know what I mean?

By the way FD, How about those Hawks? Two games ahead! Got cha!

Firedick
11-05-05, 02:05
Columpuss,

I do indeed know what you mean. It's been too long for me as well. Last May.



FD

Columpuss
11-05-05, 11:31
...hawks as in first in NFC west. You're in denile, aren't you FD. But enough of that, let's start another topic, shall we? Like mongering in AC?

Frequent Flier
11-06-05, 08:10
Oh...you mean the Seagulls ! :) Not denile, but a little ticked at Winstrom for bailing out. But then I think about it. Where would I rather live: St Louis or Seattle ? No contest.

Yup, they look good this year. I would guess they'll make the NFC Championship game, maybe even win it. Good luck !



Hoping to make it back to the RP in March or April, if anyone thinks they'll be around.

FD

Sorry guys, but I couldn't let that one rest. The Panthers are going to win the NFC and the SB. That is the Carolina team, not the florida hockey team


FF

Member #1005
11-07-05, 01:46
Firedick & FF,

Wow, the Hawks, Rams and Seagulls, these girls must sure be hot that they must be smoking by the amount of chat about them- any chance any of you guys could post a photo or better still let me have their cell no?

I don’t mind fucking this Raider as well if she’s hot & available for P4P? :D

Ekspat
11-07-05, 02:52
Hi mates,

for the cherry girls, on my recent trip to Angeles they told me to have a look at the girls ID.
The cherry girls number start with "V" and no, this time it doesn't mean Viagra!
:-)
While the other girls don't have any prefix.

For the monthly medical check-up of the girls in AC, that seems to be true. But the Doc just check the pussy, he doesn't take a blood sample as a girl said.
Since there are so many girls, how much time does a Doc have (or spend) for each girl? 5 minutes? Maybe 10 minutes? And what does he do? IMHO at best a simple test for clap and thats it.
Better play safe, if she passes the Doc's test, it's no guarantee for HIV negative at all.

Cheers!

Firedick
11-07-05, 19:37
You forgot the Carolina Panthers Cheerleaders. Clearly, they are "Hot" as in tempered ! Maybe we could get their pictures posted. A recent mugshot would do.

FD

Frequent Flier
11-07-05, 19:56
You forgot the Carolina Panthers Cheerleaders. Clearly, they are "Hot" as in tempered ! Maybe we could get their pictures posted. A recent mugshot would do.

FD


OK this will be my last post on sports on this thread. But my vote goes for the Carolina Panthers cheerleaders

http://www.franklog.com/item/nfl_cheerleaders_arrested_after_doing_each_other_in_the_bathroom

Fast Eddie 48
11-08-05, 04:17
OK this will be my last post on sports on this thread. But my vote goes for the Carolina Panthers cheerleaders

http://www.franklog.com/item/nfl_cheerleaders_arrested_after_doing_each_other_in_the_bathroom



to FF

After looking at the photo now I know why the girl need to work on each other in the ladys room , I will take the hot girls in the philippines over them
any days .

fast eddie 48

Normang
11-09-05, 01:57
Hi mates,

for the cherry girls, on my recent trip to Angeles they told me to have a look at the girls ID.
The cherry girls number start with "V" and no, this time it doesn't mean Viagra!
:-)
While the other girls don't have any prefix.

For the monthly medical check-up of the girls in AC, that seems to be true. But the Doc just check the pussy, he doesn't take a blood sample as a girl said.
Since there are so many girls, how much time does a Doc have (or spend) for each girl? 5 minutes? Maybe 10 minutes? And what does he do? IMHO at best a simple test for clap and thats it.
Better play safe, if she passes the Doc's test, it's no guarantee for HIV negative at all.

Cheers!Not meaning to disagree, but those ID's are monstly bullshit to start with...often without the actual correct name or age of the girl, hence the supposed "V" makes no difference at all.

The "monthly" supposed "medical check-up", is actually supposed to be WEEKLY at the "Hygene" place on A.Surla Street. As far as being true or not, it depends if the girl goes or not, if she is even licenced/registered or not, and if her bar gives a shit or not. Many aren't/don't. This is the Land That Logic Forgot, and often no one gives a shit here anyways :-)

Regarding the "medical check", it isn't conducted by any doctor, only a nurse, and the only "check" is a pap-smear that takes 3 minutes at most. There is no "Doc's Test" and often the "results" are non-existent. Its only about money here in the PI, and the clinic doesn't get any more if they do their job properly (if that word even exists here) or not.

Remember, Angeles City is perhaps one of the most "dirty underbellys" in the Philippines. Nothing works properly or makes any sense here. It is merely some Fanatasy Land...call it some kind of warped Fountain of Youth...which we all enjoy in different ways. Papers, ID's, Medical test, etc....all could be easily bought for less than a pair of shoes back in North America, and/or if you know "the right person" somewhere. :-)

No matter what a bargirl says/claims, it has a high chance of being utter bullshit in any way, shape, or form. Never trust anything in this Fairy Tale place...in this Fantasy Land...in the country That Logic Forgot.

Just do as the Pinoys do. Live day to day and enjoy the moment to it's fullest.

Frequent Flier
11-10-05, 09:28
to FF

After looking at the photo now I know why the girl need to work on each other in the ladys room , I will take the hot girls in the philippines over them
any days .

fast eddie 48

I agree. Even the pictures with makeup look only average.


FF