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Well actually I choose to dine at the shangri La makati, because I like it, and I wanted to give her a nice treat.
Indeed I am a newbie and I didn't get laid!
I'm going back to europe next week, so I'll try to score one last DIA meeting and see how that goes!
Getting laid would have been a nice bonus, but the point was to meet a girl with a different profile than the usual pick up from LA café or Burgos from which I've grown tired!
When I read these posts I have to laugh. You didn't get laid??? I would guess around half of the DIA girls work in the bar, or worked in the bar. I keep wondering why a guy would come to the Philippines for a short vacation and put so much effort into the internet girls, when so many beautiful girls, who will fuck you silly, are working in the bars?
JMHO
Robb
Wowwwwwww....all that effort!I knew there was a reason I never bothered with DIA: life is too short!
Charlie Sheen always seems to get credit these days for the line about paying them to go away, but it's been around a lot longer than he has.
Cuba Tourist
03-07-10, 06:20
That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
What strategies do you use when you contact various women on this website? I really do not like using Yahoo messenger and all of the women there want to chat with you on yahoo messenger. I did it a few times and I found it very irritating. This was strictly chat without video and I'm thinking that maybe I need to find women who are willing to do video chat and that would be a lot more fun. I've done that now on Gmail a couple of times with my regular girlfriend from the Philippines and we both get a huge kick out of seeing each other. We haven't done phone sex or anything like that but even so, it's a lot of fun. In the case of a new girl that I just met off of the Internet and who may not be verbally sophisticated intellectually or may not have such great English, the addition of the video element may really help. But can I get them to sign up for Gmail video or do I have to go back to Yahoo messenger? Skype also has video but they don't seem to have access to that either.
I've been in contact with about 50 DIA girls, mostly Phillipines and Thailand,
Have taken out and had relations with about 15. One was a dancer at Vikings
In Cebu (freebie), two were in the massage biz (freebies), and all the others
Were unemployed, sales clerks, factory workers etc. (a few were like freelancers for partime money).
My random sampling does not even come close to 50% but I think it varies by town. Manila seems to be more freelancers. I've even had a "bait and switch". The girl was not at all like the picture but the price was right plus
She was very desparate in order to make that "kind of play".
I always schedule a DIA girl for day or early evening, so if it doesn't work
Out, you can fall back on the pros. Sometimes, it's just better to go with the flow. It can take you to new territory.
Enjoy the game. And always remember that's exactly what it is!
That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
What strategies do you use when you contact various women on this website? I really do not like using Yahoo messenger and all of the women there want to chat with you on yahoo messenger. I did it a few times and I found it very irritating. This was strictly chat without video and I'm thinking that maybe I need to find women who are willing to do video chat and that would be a lot more fun. I've done that now on Gmail a couple of times with my regular girlfriend from the Philippines and we both get a huge kick out of seeing each other. We haven't done phone sex or anything like that but even so, it's a lot of fun. In the case of a new girl that I just met off of the Internet and who may not be verbally sophisticated intellectually or may not have such great English, the addition of the video element may really help. But can I get them to sign up for Gmail video or do I have to go back to Yahoo messenger? Skype also has video but they don't seem to have access to that either.
Hairy Wonder
03-07-10, 08:02
Cuba,
Many of the girls on the internet are not very technically savvy in the first place. However, that being said, they do seem to have a knack for putting up pages on almost every conceivable social networking or dating site they can find. Most of them use internet cafes to do their surfing, as they can't afford to buy a computer, and have internet service at home. The ones that do, are most likely getting support from at least one or more foreigners. At the net cafes, they may be limited to only the programs loaded on the systems there. If the cafe operator did not install Skype, then they won't have it available to use. Many of them already have multiple e-mail addresses, so I'm sure adding GMail to the list would not bother them. But the fact is that Yahoo Messenger is the most popular chat program available to them.
I have been a long time user of DIA, and have found also that most of the girls want to know my YM so they can chat with me. I guess they prefer immediate reply, rather than having to wait until you login to DIA. I have become irritated with it also. There are times when I just want to surf the net without interruptions. But if I login to YM, I can't do anything without mutiple chat windows opening up constantly. Therefore, I login, but keep my status as invisible. This doesn't stop the girls from sending messages. But most won't if it looks like I'm offline.
Enjoy!
HW
That was quite a description of your modus operandi! I am a little perplexed, as it seems that the entire couch scenario/you going to bed alone is entirely unnecessary if sex is your objective, because at that moment, I am certain you could start kissing her and end up in bed, but obviously you enjoy doing it this way.
I have only been to Manila once, I only had one DIA girl and she was in bed with me within a few minutes after arrival. Then again, my DIA profile states that I like having a lot of sex (its meant to intimidate the girls who are ONLY looking for a husband). Nevertheless, I had a few girls who simply were no shows, and I am certain they would have shown if I had been gentlemanly and not mentioned sex in our communications.
I am curious about your percent success: how many of these DIA girls do NOT go to bed with you on night one?
As you surmise, for me the whole evening is not about 'necessity', or about achieving the objective in the shortest time frame or most direct route possible. Like most western guys living in Manila with a good salary and a nice condo, I can get laid pretty much anytime I want within 30 minutes of sending an sms to one of the half-dozen gals I regularly see, or walking 10 minutes to Burgos and hitting one of my regular bars. And yes, there are many an evening when that is exactly what I do.
As for the sofa scenario, yes, I could indeed just start kissing her right there, get her panties off and guide her to the bed, all within a few minutes of getting her into my condo unit. However, I do find that, on occasion, it is somehow deliciously seductive to stretch out the various phases of the evening so that the slowly building anticipation almost becomes its own reward.
As for my success rate, i.e. shagging a DIA gal on the first date following my descriptive guidelines above, I would say it is thus far around 75%.
Manta Ray
GregLondon
03-07-10, 14:57
I can see the attraction of strewtching out the seduction for a guy living in phils where generally seduction is if anything too easy. Do you find that some of these girls get totally seduced. You seem to trteatthem, so well that i can imagine that some become irritatingly demanding of follow up sessions?
GregLondon
03-07-10, 15:07
That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
What strategies do you use when you contact various women on this website? I really do not like using Yahoo messenger and all of the women there want to chat with you on yahoo messenger. I did it a few times and I found it very irritating. This was strictly chat without video and I'm thinking that maybe I need to find women who are willing to do video chat and that would be a lot more fun. I've done that now on Gmail a couple of times with my regular girlfriend from the Philippines and we both get a huge kick out of seeing each other. We haven't done phone sex or anything like that but even so, it's a lot of fun. In the case of a new girl that I just met off of the Internet and who may not be verbally sophisticated intellectually or may not have such great English, the addition of the video element may really help. But can I get them to sign up for Gmail video or do I have to go back to Yahoo messenger? Skype also has video but they don't seem to have access to that either.
10% would be my guess re working in bars.
YNM is the near universal standard messenger in the Phils. If a girl uses skype of gmail or MSn etc you can be 90% sure shes had a previous serious foreign bf. I dont understanjd what your problem with YM is ? I prefer it to MSN and the video works reasonably well. I think you mst be diligent about remaing your contacts in a systematic way or you will get very confused. Probably also sensible to rutlessly delete scammers and flakes etc
GregLondon
03-07-10, 15:17
Facebook seems to be rapidly replacing Friendster as the preferred social network site for college level Filipinas. has anyone figured an efficient methodology for using it to search for prospects?
Member #4147
03-07-10, 15:35
Facebook seems to be rapidly replacing Friendster as the preferred social network site for college level Filipinas. has anyone figured an efficient methodology for using it to search for prospects?I have been trying to find a way to search FB more efficiently myself. Seems like there are numerous groups but such an inefficient way to search. Would like to hear of better ways. By the way I will be in Cebu City from 4-23 to 5-6.
Facebook seems to be rapidly replacing Friendster as the preferred social network site for college level Filipinas. has anyone figured an efficient methodology for using it to search for prospects?
Try Tagged. You can search any region in the philippines. I've been chatting with a few I've met there but I quickly become bored with that line of pursuit because it's so time consuming. I prefer just meeting women when I'm out and about in the Philippines.
YM
GregLondon
03-07-10, 23:22
Try Tagged. You can search any region in the philippines. I've been chatting with a few I've met there but I quickly become bored with that line of pursuit because it's so time consuming. I prefer just meeting women when I'm out and about in the Philippines.
YM
Actually i use tagged and had quite a bit of luck with it. My reason for taking an interest in Facebook is that Id like to get more exposure to more educated girls. Im tired of the confusion and lack of interesting conversation with the mostly high school educated types predominating on DIA. Facebook unlike Tagged has been specifically designed to make it relatively difficult to hunt for girls. I used it with quite a bit of success in Ethiopia to contact high end uni girls. The key was to find one or two very well connected girls recently or currently at the leading colleges unis and then go through their friends lists adding as friends interesting looking prospects. Its a relatively time consuming process and may simply not be worth it in the context of the Phils. It was useful in Ethiopia as the average girls could hardly speak any English at all
Royal Blue
03-08-10, 00:42
Actually in other SEA countries just joining local facebook groups gets you a fair amount of messages from local girls. Not sure if it's the same in the Phils.
FreebieFan
03-08-10, 04:23
in the past few months living in manila, i’ve met quite a few gals on dia. they all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. all of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). a few live fairly central (mandaluyong, pasay, paranaque) and a few live further afield (caloocan, cavite, novaliches).
when i meet a dia gal for a first date, i enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry. with that in mind, i invite the gal for a drink and/or dinner, in a nice, ‘upmarket’ place, eg greenbelt or the fort. perhaps this is not necessary, given the socio-economic group of the typical dia gal we mongers tend to target, but it is more in keeping with my style and comfort zone.
to be sure, the specific details of my dia first dates do vary, and, believe me, i’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters. however, a fairly typical first date goes something like this:
after numerous texts back and forth to confirm the meeting time and place, and to find out where the hell she is (yes, she is usually late!), she shows up within 45 minutes of the agreed upon time. we spot each other, and i introduce myself, shake her hand, and make a mental note of how accurate her dia profile photo is. i decide that while her photo does indeed put her in ‘best light’, she is attractive and slim enough to warrant at least one nice evening together.
we order drinks and settle into the usual get-to-know-you sequence of topics and questions. i show interest in her work, family and hobbies, asking lots of questions. i am mildly, though not aggressively, flirtatious--especially if i want to get to know her, er… more intimately.
eventually i suggest we have something to eat—and i encourage her to order whatever she wants (another mental note if she decides to order the most expensive dish on the menu). we eat, and i engage her in more talking, more topics, more flirting, and a little ‘innocent’ touching… the knee, the shoulder, the arm… just to let her know i’m interested.
a few hours pass pleasantly… a bottle of wine and/or a few san migs do their work. it gets toward the witching hour and i suggest we go back to my condo in makati for a coffee. she hesitates slightly, then says something like, ‘well, ok a coffee is nice.’ we head off for a taxi, and i take her hand as we walk.
i sit close to her in the taxi and ever so gently rest my hand on her knee. we get to my place… and as we enter the lobby of my bldg i hold her hand very firmly; i want her to feel like my gf in the gaze of the bldg security lads. walking toward the elevator, i make it a point to chat with her casually, as if we both live there. i avoid direct eye contact with the lads in the lobby—who have seen me do the same dance with several other gals in the past couple of months. we get to my unit on the 38th floor and i enjoy the widening of her eyes as she steps in the door and is greeted by the twinkling makati skyline. i beckon her to the balcony, open the door and we step out to embrace the night view. i point out a few of the makati landmarks. i can see she is impressed, and this is good.
back inside, i tell her to have a seat on the sofa while i make some coffee. i turn on the tv, give her the remote wand and tell her to turn on whatever she wants. i don’t particularly want to watch tv, but it's a simple way for us to get close and cuddly, while still having a comfy external focus. i bring the coffee, with some chocolate—a sure entry into the filipina heart—and sit myself down next to her! we pretend to watch tv and little by little we reposition so it’s easy for her to rest her head on my shoulder, which, after a little while, she does. i stroke her shoulder and/or knee ever so gently… we’re becoming very relaxed.
by this time, it is quite late and i am (sort of) getting tired. i silently contemplate how to broach the obvious next topic. then i let out a thinly veiled yawn, followed by something like, ‘hmmm, it’s getting late and you look so tired. you’re very welcome to spend the night here rather than try to get a taxi at this late hour… don’t worry, you can sleep on my bed and i’ll take the sofa… really, it’s no problem for me, and you can be comfortable that way.’
she furrows her brow and doesn’t answer immediately… then says, unconvincingly, something like, ‘no, you need your sleep in your bed… you can sleep now and i just rest a little on the sofa. it’s ok, i just go home in a few hours, no problem for me.’ i tell her that as a gentleman, i couldn’t allow that… she must have the bed so she can rest more comfortably. we go back and forth a bit until, predictably, i give in. i invite her to use the bathroom. while she is in the bathroom, i make up the sofa with sheets and a pillow, then remove any ‘valuables’ (wallet, laptop, ipod, phone, etc.) putting them in a ‘safe’ place in my bedroom closet (yes, of course, i trust her, but as the arabs say, ‘trust in god, but tether your camel first’).
she comes out of the bathroom and is impressed that the sofa is so nicely made up for her. i kiss her on the cheek, tell her to help herself to anything in the fridge during the night and wish her ‘sweet dreams. i go into my bedroom, but leave the door open. she is no doubt confused as she’s not used to such courteous behavior from a man.
i change into a pair of shorts (no underwear and no shirt), put two condoms discreetly under a book on my bedside table (i want to make it easy when the inevitable happens), get into bed and turn out the light.
after about 45 minutes, i hear a rustle of sheets in the other room, a few soft footsteps and then see her silhouette as she comes into my room, fully clothed. she says something like, ‘i’m scared there by myself’ and lies down on the bed a ‘safe’ distance from me. i gently reach over, touch her cheek, say sleep well, and make no attempt to move closer to her… yet.
we feign sleep, with each toss and turn, somehow bringing us a bit closer to each other. i lightly drape my arm over her hip; she edges over toward me and allows her hand to touch my leg. we enjoy this slumberous dance silently for a while longer. eventually, we’re spooning snugly, with my arm wrapped over her and my hand lightly resting on her breast.
i gently kiss her neck, and she moans softly while allowing her bum to press against my now rising manhood. she turns her face toward me and our lips seem to be almost touching now. i offer a brief kiss, a peck really, half on her mouth and half on her cheek. then our mouths open and we kiss again. our tongues meet, and our legs entwine. clothes come off quickly, and from this point, all is predictably passionate. i selflessly extend the foreplay to pleasure her as long as it takes to get her where i want her, and then a little longer. when the moment of entry arrives, she attempts to guide me in uncovered (yes, in my experience non p4p gals are more likely to go bb), until i, as smoothly as possible, halt the proceedings briefly to cover up. all is then well.
we sleep soundly until the stirrings of daylight, then we undulate into round two… in similar fashion as in round one, minus the extended foreplay.
i get up first, have a shower, wrap a towel around me, and make a pot of tea. she is still asleep, so i whisper in her ear ‘magandang umaga’, wait for her to open her eyes and show some life, then hand her a steaming mug, black with sugar. once again, she is impressed at the thoughtful service. and though it is truly a pleasure for me to treat her this way, i am at least partly motivated by my desire to get her up and out of my place in good time so my whole day is not shot. as charlie sheen, the actor who was caught up in a much publicized p4p scandal, replied to a nosy reporter enquiring why he would need to pay for sex, ‘i’m not paying them for the sex, i’m paying for them to leave in the morning.’
i tell her she can have a shower, and ask her what she would like for breakfast. she at first refuses the offer, but i insist, telling her she must eat something before she goes. the choices are cereal with milk, toast and jam, eggs, and/or fruit. she opts for a slice of toast (which my informal mental survey tells me is the most common dia morning-after-first-date breakfast choice).
i make the breakfast while she showers, gets dressed, and to my non-surprise, but nonetheless delight, makes the bed herself with hotel-like precision. i thank her for that and tell her to sit down for breakfast. we chat about this and that while we eat. i tell her that it would be my pleasure to see again, but carefully avoid suggesting any specific dates.
when she’s finished, i tell her i will walk her outside to get a taxi, and as i do, i stuff a few hundred pesos into her pocket or bag and tell her this is for her to get home. she doesn’t object or refuse, and offers a simple but sincere sounding ‘thank you’.
as we leave the building through the lobby, once again, i hold her hand and talk to her casually walking past the security lads, who are mercifully different from the night before. we hail a taxi, and as she gets in, i kiss her on the cheek, and tell her to take care and keep in touch. a few minutes after i get back to my apartment i get a text from her. she thanks me for a nice night and hopes we can meet again soon. i text her back immediately, saying i hope so too.
manta rayand i would say thats pretty much how i do it with the exception that
a) i try to avoid the security guards as much as possible
b) i let mine onto the balocony so they can see the 30th floor view, and usually stand behind pointing out the sights that turns into hug from behind
c) usually initiate a lonbg making out session on the sofa then carry the lady into the bedroom where the book also has the obligatory two conddoms, plus the g spot vibrator, and some ky " just in case".
otherwise have done your scenario multiple times!
Member #4643
03-08-10, 12:17
And what percentage of the DIA girls you have dated end up fucking you on the first date? (do you state your desire for sex before the date or just date the girls you think are nice?)
Frankly, I think that any DIA girl who comes to your room intends to have sex with you. But, I have an experience of only 1 girl. I think I need to get back to Manila!
And I would say thats pretty much how I do it with the exception that
A) I try to avoid the security guards as much as possible
B) I let mine onto the balocony so they can see the 30th floor view, and usually stand behind pointing out the sights that turns into hug from behind
C) usually initiate a lonbg making out session on the sofa then carry the lady into the bedroom where the book also has the obligatory two conddoms, plus the G spot vibrator, and some KY " just in case".
Otherwise have done your scenario multiple times!
Gaijin Gigolo
03-08-10, 16:00
lol...exactly man. I don't live in the Phils, can only visit, thus I don't have half a day to spend turning a date into some kind of drawn out romance, only to not get laid in the end after all. If I lived there I would no doubt be more into the relationship scene but when just visiting I prefer to get right the point...put out or get out...lol! The majority of Filipinas I've been with prefer a more direct, aggressive approach too, and I'm not talking about bar girls or freelancers...I'm refering to chicks I've lined up before visits.
I knew there was a reason I never bothered with DIA: life is too short!
Charlie Sheen always seems to get credit these days for the line about paying them to go away, but it's been around a lot longer than he has.
That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
I have used DIA for the last three years and I have met a lot of girls and if you ask them, they will tell you. Go online at 2 to 4 am Philippine time and see how many are online. I would guess at that time about 90% just finished working and didn't get barfined. Last Saturday I met a girl at Silver Dollar in Cebu and she told me that she is working to find a boyfriend and I asked her why she didn't try online and she told me that she has a ad on DIA, but too many guys chat/message her and say they are coming to visit, but never show up.
Robb
Try Tagged. You can search any region in the philippines. I've been chatting with a few I've met there but I quickly become bored with that line of pursuit because it's so time consuming. I prefer just meeting women when I'm out and about in the Philippines.
YM
Correct YM on Tagged. Only problem that I found is after so many they read the comments left on your page and ask who is that:( and why do you have 500 girl friends on tagged:)
Robb:D
FreebieFan
03-09-10, 01:01
And what percentage of the DIA girls you have dated end up fucking you on the first date? (do you state your desire for sex before the date or just date the girls you think are nice?)
Frankly, I think that any DIA girl who comes to your room intends to have sex with you. But, I have an experience of only 1 girl. I think I need to get back to Manila!I think its probably about 99%. I never talk about sex with them (so they think I'm a decent guy.). Anyone who walks through my door always has sex.
Quite often after a few drinks or dinner I will suggest we go to my place and in 99% of times theres almost no reaction. Its like they expected it. And if I have a bad vibe about taking them to my place then I take them to Sogo motel. Same difference.
Member #3428
03-09-10, 03:30
she told me that she has a ad on DIA, but too many guys chat/message her and say they are coming to visit, but never show up.
Which is just perfect for guys like me that do come into MNL for work as most the girls I've gotten have NEVER meet a guy or had a guy show up in person and my success ratio of nailing them is spot on.
FreebieFan
03-09-10, 04:47
Correct YM on Tagged. Only problem that I found is after so many they read the comments left on your page and ask who is that:( and why do you have 500 girl friends on tagged:)
Robb:DOr they try contacting your friends and ask " how well do you know him ? ".
That one gets tricky, especailly when you are nailing all of them. LOL
The majority of Filipinas I've been with prefer a more direct, aggressive approach too, and I'm not talking about bar girls or freelancers...I'm refering to chicks I've lined up before visits.I think the culture teaches them to be passive, and to go along with a man when he's confident and firm. (Much like Japan, where I grew up.) The aggressive thing isn't my natural style at all, but I've found that whenever I take charge, not only do they go along with it but they even seem to appreciate it. Saves a lot of time too!
Which is just perfect for guys like me that do come into MNL for work as most the girls I've gotten have NEVER meet a guy or had a guy show up in person and my success ratio of nailing them is spot on.
Spot on Tansak.
When they see that I am foreigner AND I live in Manila they go ape shit at the chance to actually meet a foreigner "in the real" (as they say).
I tend to lay low in Manila as I have a profile there.
But my trips to Cebu have to be carefully choreographed to ensure that Girl A doesn't overlap with B, C or D and that's not even considering the repeats that have to be factored in as well LOL
It's a hard life sometimes juggling work and pleasure
GregLondon
03-09-10, 10:50
My success rate in terms of sex with a girl who agrees to come to my room is quite a bit lower than the 99% quoted by others. Id say maybe 70%. Maybe it's my lack of charm or frightening physical appearance, but it could also be that if possible I prefer to make the initial meeting at my hotel room rather than a mall, restaurant or public place. Clearly you would expect a higher rate from girls you have dined and who have subsequently agreed to return to your hotel/pad than girls who have agreed to meet in the hotel lobby and come straight to your room.
It has to be said that getting alot of success n DIA and the other sites can indeed be a time consuming occupation. Guys with a short holiday and a job which leads then to attach a high opportunity cost to their time may well decide to give it a half hearted attempt and if they don't luck out then fall back on the bar scene. If you are retired and have more free time then it can be alot of fun with loads of wild and wacky experiences.
For example I thought i had finally struck out last night after 5 weeks in the Phils when i just didnt fancy the girl from DIA who showed up, though she was more than willing, so i made an excuse about feeling guilty about cheating on my GF and gave her a generous taxi tip, so I thought i would spend my first night alone. The situation was rescued when there was some banging on my door at 3.30am and a couple of my previous DIA friends staggered in drunk and asked if they could stay the night so I ended up with an exceptionally beautiful 20 year old student and a big boobed and raunchy 18 year old. I did them both before we fell asleep,in the morning they wanted to take some bikini shots around the pool (some of my girls keep their swim wear in my room so I can usually rustle up a couple of bikinis). Thus we ended up having fun in the pool followed by a soapy threesome in the shower, with one of them keeping me company and satisfied until another girl arrives later today.
Unlike some of the guys here I deliberately try to encourage the girls to get to know each other (intimately) so that I don't have to worry about Girl A finding im out with B , C and D etc.
It works well for me at least.
Member #3428
03-09-10, 11:53
My success rate in terms of sex with a girl who agrees to come to my room is quite a bit lower than the 99% quoted by others. Id say maybe 70%. Maybe it's my lack of charm or frightening physical appearance, but it could also be that if possible I prefer to make the initial meeting at my hotel room rather than a mall, restaurant or public place. Clearly you would expect a higher rate from girls you have dined and who have subsequently agreed to return to your hotel/pad than girls who have agreed to meet in the hotel lobby and come straight to your room.
I would expect the opposite, only reason they should go to room is to go to straight to bed. I come out and pretty much tell them what the rules are.
I came straight out and told the girl meeting me next week on my layover that I have a rule that ladies are only allowed to wear panties on in the room so when she enters the room she needs to take off everything but her panties, her panties can stay on while we get to know each other :D
She immediately knew what her duties would be and the little 18 year old is coming over... if she bails on me, like you I have option 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.... to go to..
GregLondon
03-09-10, 12:05
I would expect the opposite, only reason they should go to room is to go to straight to bed. I come out and pretty much tell them what the rules are.
I came straight out and told the girl meeting me next week on my layover that I have a rule that ladies are only allowed to wear panties on in the room so when she enters the room she needs to take off everything but her panties, her panties can stay on while we get to know each other :D
She immediately knew what her duties would be and the little 18 year old is coming over... if she bails on me, like you I have option 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.... to go to..
I think it's a common mistake of guys to apply too much logical analysis to Pinay decision making. I'm counting amongst the 30% girls who I didn't make a try for as either they are less attractive than in photos/cam or LBs etc. Others are naive virgin types who really just want to meet a foreign guy and see what happens but who are not ready toi lose their cherry - and i don't usually apply much persuasion in such cases as i dont want to deal with that.
geniaesteban at DIA
Geriatric hooter heaven!
Marconista
03-10-10, 21:09
In Tagged you can easily HIDE BOX to the right of "friends". Options are DISPLAY 5 - 10 - 15 etc, or HIDE BOX.
You can also counter the girls asking, since they may have hundreds of friends themselves (I saw one with 30-40000 friends)
Correct YM on Tagged. Only problem that I found is after so many they read the comments left on your page and ask who is that:( and why do you have 500 girl friends on tagged:)
Robb:D
I have used DIA for the last three years and I have met a lot of girls and if you ask them, they will tell you. Go online at 2 to 4 am Philippine time and see how many are online. I would guess at that time about 90% just finished working and didn't get barfined. Last Saturday I met a girl at Silver Dollar in Cebu and she told me that she is working to find a boyfriend and I asked her why she didn't try online and she told me that she has a ad on DIA, but too many guys chat/message her and say they are coming to visit, but never show up.
Robb
I have had some girls complaining that their so called BFriends did not show up in spite of repeated calls , messages and sometimes sending money. I think it has everything to do with the country. Once you land in Phi you are in a smorgasboard of available pussies, you are afraid to get stuck with one.
Some maybe afraid trying to get DIA girl to bed is waste of time and energy. I have been guilty of that also. I promised a 18 year old in Cebu that I will spend few days with her but failed to go there. The main reason was although she was willing to stay with me and have sex, she mentioned she wants me to meet her family.
So there are many reasons why many do not make the trip or even when they are there do not make the effort to meet the girls they chat with.
However it is lot of fun to chat with them anyway.
FreebieFan
03-11-10, 02:45
In Tagged you can easily HIDE BOX to the right of "friends". Options are DISPLAY 5 - 10 - 15 etc, or HIDE BOX.
You can also counter the girls asking, since they may have hundreds of friends themselves (I saw one with 30-40000 friends)Maraming Salamat Po!
I know only have 5 friends. How innocent I now look.
FreebieFan
03-11-10, 02:50
2 years back, got chatting through Friendster with a very enthusiastic BPI employee. We would chat on Saturday mornings and invariably she would get her kit off. That progressed to calls, then a few meetins where again, she would get her kit off and energetic sex pursued. Even took her with me on 2 business trips.
Then I decided shes gettting too clingy.
Shes just started chatting with me again and is now living in Scotland married with a guy who has already had two divorces under his belt.
Shes complaining that the guy no longer pays any attention to her and is frustrated with lack of sex.
Anyways she sweetly asked me if Id had any other girls since her. She said she hoped I hadn't.
I almost fell off my chair. I did a quick calculation and probably its 50 or more since I met her.
Being a gentleman though I replied " well ocassionally its lonely on business trips".
FreebieFan
03-11-10, 08:19
You could do worse than communicate on DIA with Ruthcanoy.
You could do worse than communicate on DIA with Ruthcanoy.
From her profile: "i want to meet a westerner to get married and willing to travel and stay where my possible husband live."
Does that mean she wants to be with you and her Filipino husband also:D
Robb
Yesterday a bar girl who I have seen for the last years years YM'ed me and told me that she is getting married :eek: and I asked her where she met him and she told me DIA:D And she told me that he doesn't know that she ever worked in the bar. She is 22 and he is 53. Anyone want to take odds on this marriage working???
Robb
Yesterday a bar girl who I have seen for the last years years YM'ed me and told me that she is getting married :eek: and I asked her where she met him and she told me DIA:D And she told me that he doesn't know that she ever worked in the bar. She is 22 and he is 53. Anyone want to take odds on this marriage working???
Robb
1. Never believe a girl if she is saying she is getting married. i have chatted with few who told me the same thing and sometimes they are going to foreign countries after marriage.
2. Truth is these girls believe anything the guy says. For example if the guy says he wants to marry her and take her to his country, she is like already married and moving in her mind.
3. I remember one really pretty girl got pregnant by a guy in Europe saying he promised to marry her and not to worry about the child. I saw her online after a year complaining she does not have any money and wants to work in the bar to support her child.
She was in high heaven when the guy told her that he would marry her and take her to his country( I will not name the country)
4. Many of these girls are so desparate to meet a foreigner and get out of the country they believe anything the guy says.
Cannot believe till it really happened.
Anyone else can relate to this?
The girl is nice, I will share with other ISGers who can help her.
hello, are you looking for some $$?
her:sureeeee y not?whre r u ryt now?
how much u want for 3 days with me?
up to you babe just for small shoppings i will be happy for it,whre r u at ryt now?
how much is that 10000?
her: lets talk in yahoo
u still thre?
heres my number-0xxxxxxxxx call me or text me
me:do you do anal?
her:i dont try it,im virgin of it hehe
lets talk in yahoo
u still thre?
Well anyone want to try this one out?
Londoncitylover
03-12-10, 15:35
My success rate in terms of sex with a girl who agrees to come to my room is quite a bit lower than the 99% quoted by others. Id say maybe 70%. Maybe it's my lack of charm or frightening physical appearance, but it could also be that if possible I prefer to make the initial meeting at my hotel room rather than a mall, restaurant or public place. Clearly you would expect a higher rate from girls you have dined and who have subsequently agreed to return to your hotel/pad than girls who have agreed to meet in the hotel lobby and come straight to your room.
It has to be said that getting alot of success n DIA and the other sites can indeed be a time consuming occupation. Guys with a short holiday and a job which leads then to attach a high opportunity cost to their time may well decide to give it a half hearted attempt and if they don't luck out then fall back on the bar scene. If you are retired and have more free time then it can be alot of fun with loads of wild and wacky experiences.
For example I thought i had finally struck out last night after 5 weeks in the Phils when i just didnt fancy the girl from DIA who showed up, though she was more than willing, so i made an excuse about feeling guilty about cheating on my GF and gave her a generous taxi tip, so I thought i would spend my first night alone. The situation was rescued when there was some banging on my door at 3.30am and a couple of my previous DIA friends staggered in drunk and asked if they could stay the night so I ended up with an exceptionally beautiful 20 year old student and a big boobed and raunchy 18 year old. I did them both before we fell asleep,in the morning they wanted to take some bikini shots around the pool (some of my girls keep their swim wear in my room so I can usually rustle up a couple of bikinis). Thus we ended up having fun in the pool followed by a soapy threesome in the shower, with one of them keeping me company and satisfied until another girl arrives later today.
Unlike some of the guys here I deliberately try to encourage the girls to get to know each other (intimately) so that I don't have to worry about Girl A finding im out with B , C and D etc.
It works well for me at least.Hey Greg,
You might want to try some of the pick-up communities favourites. Things like meeting her downstairs to go for a quick beer and "forgetting your camera, would she like to just come up while I get it". Plausible deniability, it just happened :)
Member #4147
03-12-10, 17:22
Where is she? How old and how many kilos?
Anyone else can relate to this?
The girl is nice, I will share with other ISGers who can help her.
Hello, are you looking for some $$?
Her: sureeeee y not? Whre are you ryt now?
How much you want for 3 days with me?
Up to you babe just for small shoppings I will be happy for it, whre are you at ryt now?
How much is that 10000?
Her: lets talk in yahoo
U still thre?
Here's my number-0xxxxxxxxx call me or text me
Meo you do anal?
Her: I don't try it, I'm virgin of it hehe
Lets talk in yahoo
U still thre?
Well anyone want to try this one out?
Member #2001
03-12-10, 18:28
What is DIA?
What is DIA?
Date in asia
It is a free website anybody can join. Most of the girls are from Philippines with few from Thailand and china.
Anyone want to take odds the 53 year old male is a regular reader of ISG?
Hahahaha Please tell me that isn't true. If he is a board member he should know better:)
Robb
Check out crazymonstahhh - do you think she realises how suggestive her photo is?
Gonzofiend
03-13-10, 07:53
Check out crazymonstahhh. Do you think she realises how suggestive her photo is?That's too perfect to be an accident. Very nice photo.
Jeebus, check out Samaraaldes from AC on DIA. I least I would only have to support her Aunt! Please tell me I'm not alone in thinking this is a bit strange. She's either completely truthful or has a great imagination. And for a cherry girl working at Jollibees, she sure does know the vernacular.
"like read poket book and chatting, and disco and videoke. I play vollyball and jogging and swimming. I exercising so much my body is strong and nice, not tired. I have no family becuse they die in the fire so I alone now only stay my Atte. I happy they die becuse they no good, they selling drugs and I not like that. They like I sell drugs but I run away. I good girl, quiet and my friends say 'cute' but I no like boom-boom the guy unles he my husbad. So please, no butterfly texting me only wanting lusty. I work Jollibee. I want only serious man, I no like Filipino guy. I still cherry girl. I no experience in the bed, so I need my husbad who respecting me and teach me what to do, but only if he my husbad, then I give my whole body him, anything he like, even my ass becuse my friend say to me many foreigner they like that one, becuse I want to please my husbad 100%. But remember, marriage down before panty down! "
(Snip)
"like my husbad who is kind and he understand me, and love only me. I want sincere and honest man, and looks not important but of course I like handsome guy becuse I young and nice looking and if my husbad he old and ugly maybe people they think I only go with him for the money but that not so even so they think so. Better my husbad be closer my age, young, maybe 25 and 35, or 40, like that, but if he older but also nice and good to me and no lying, who love only me, then maybe old guy is okey. But if I go his country and peple looking me I 'gold-digger' I don't like go there. I hope you understand me. Money is not important me! Only love. "
She does look cute though.
Gonzo
Check out crazymonstahhh - do you think she realises how suggestive her photo is?
You're right Taster. Very suggestive.
Actually I am sure she knows what her photo is suggesting. Especially since I think "she" looks suspiciously like a bakla, and his/her profile is typical of she-male posts too, with all the stuff about a painful life.
For those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
Do you drop her?
Do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
What is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? I don't get it.
This topic has been covered before, and the advice is split.
I've had both good and bad outcomes meeting friends / chaperones. My answer is yes, but make them feel like you are allowing it rather than they are getting there way. Absolutely no mothers, and suggest cute friends instead.
Rather than assume it is "childish", I suggest you think that it is common sense. A regular gal doesn't just go out alone and meet an unknown foriegn man, duh.
X
For those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
Do you drop her?
Do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
What is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? I don't get it.
For those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
Do you drop her?
Do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
What is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? I don't get it.
Maybe, just maybe, she is a little scared of meeting some foreign guy in a strange place (or his hotel room) and wants a little "back up" just in case, or maybe she is trying to find a way to "earn" a little money for her friend also. And depending on how far away she has to come, maybe just to have a traveling companion. I agree about no family members...unless of course they plan to join in the fun!
Actually, this is good information, but it is also unnecessarily narrow.
It assumes the gal is out to earn money. X
Maybe, just maybe, she is a little scared of meeting some foreign guy in a strange place (or his hotel room) and wants a little "back up" just in case, or maybe she is trying to find a way to "earn" a little money for her friend also. And depending on how far away she has to come, maybe just to have a traveling companion. I agree about no family members...unless of course they plan to join in the fun!
Actually, this is good information, but it is also unnecessarily narrow.
It assumes the gal is out to earn money. X
"X"
I guess in a sense you are correct in that every lady will have their own personal reasons, some of which may overlap. It wasn't my intention to detail the reason for every lady, not insinuate that I had all the answers. I guess it was done a little TIC, because to be honest, I felt the overriding reason should be self-evident.
Heck, I have spent a lot to time just trying to figure out "feminine motovation" on a simple level....with VERY limited success,I might add. This is WAY above my skill level! :-D
GregLondon
03-13-10, 12:43
for those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
do you drop her?
do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
what is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? i don't get it.
as others have mentioned there are a number of different reasons.
the most common would be that its a relatively young or inexperienced girl who has not met any or at least many foreign guys before. often these girls are not intending to have sex and the partner is intended as a chaperone to insure that. meeting a foreigner is considered something of a treat especially of it involves pizza or jollybees so she may also be keen to share the experience with a friend.
as others have said if it is a cute girl about her age it maybe acceptable, if it is mum or aunty it will kill the atmosphere.
some girls like to bring along gay/ladyboy friends. in my experience this is to be avoided. tghe gay/lb will more often than not be attempting to financially exploit the situation by eg trying to negotiate a large taxi fee to get lost. there may also be a scam involved eg setting you up with an **** girl and threatening to call the police if you dont pay him off. the gay /lb may or may not have been involved in your original dialogue for example many gays/lbs chat/email on behalf of girls or substitute a girl if you say you dont like lbs etc. one way or another they are always trouble at least in my experience.
the third more promising scenario is a more experienced girl who is trying to maximise revenue by bringing along a friend for a threesome.
i usually tryto clarify the matter by asking whether the friend (a) 100% real girl with no extra bits (b) her age and slimness etc and (c) whether she is also open minded about being fucked.
Had been chatting with a 22 yr. Old in preparation for "dates" in Manila.
Nice profile, typical 110 Ibs., nice cleavage etc. Met her at hotel and she
Had grown to 150 Ibs.! Ugh. The front desk girls even "raised an eyebrow". They had seen me with considerably better quality.
I know, I should have walked away, but being the nice guy that I am and
Under the influence of Vitamin V, we went upstairs. She didn't want to get
Undressed so I suggested she leave. But she wanted to stay? Oooook, what now?
I asked, "What did she want to do? " She wanted me to get undressed.
She wanted to look at me? Ah-ha!
In short, the best blow job I have had in 20 years. And she swallowed every drop!
Gave her 500p for transportation and went to LA Cafe for a couple of beers
And laughs. In a very relaxed state of mind.
Sometimes just have to go with the flow.
FreebieFan
03-15-10, 01:00
as others have mentioned there are a number of different reasons.
the most common would be that its a relatively young or inexperienced girl who has not met any or at least many foreign guys before. often these girls are not intending to have sex and the partner is intended as a chaperone to insure that. meeting a foreigner is considered something of a treat especially of it involves pizza or jollybees so she may also be keen to share the experience with a friend.
as others have said if it is a cute girl about her age it maybe acceptable, if it is mum or aunty it will kill the atmosphere.
some girls like to bring along gay/ladyboy friends. in my experience this is to be avoided. tghe gay/lb will more often than not be attempting to financially exploit the situation by eg trying to negotiate a large taxi fee to get lost. there may also be a scam involved eg setting you up with an **** girl and threatening to call the police if you don't pay him off. the gay /lb may or may not have been involved in your original dialogue for example many gays/lbs chat/email on behalf of girls or substitute a girl if you say you don't like lbs etc. one way or another they are always trouble at least in my experience.
the third more promising scenario is a more experienced girl who is trying to maximise revenue by bringing along a friend for a threesome.
i usually tryto clarify the matter by asking whether the friend (a) 100% real girl with no extra bits (b) her age and slimness etc and (c) whether she is also open minded about being fucked.we've all been down this road many times. if girl who you meet looks sweet and innocent (ripe for the picking) politely give the friend some money for jollibee and tell her you will take care of the girl. then proceed to walk off. the girl who came to meet will often be confused and will invariably walk to you and join you. problem solved.
Thanks for the extra info. Points taken.
I may have read too much into your point about "earn".
I assumed you were equating "earn" with prostitution, but after reading your message I think you were suggesting "opportunities".
All of us are looking for opportunities one way or another...no problem with that. :-) X
"X"
I guess in a sense you are correct in that every lady will have their own personal reasons, some of which may overlap. It wasn't my intention to detail the reason for every lady, not insinuate that I had all the answers. I guess it was done a little TIC, because to be honest, I felt the overriding reason should be self-evident.
Heck, I have spent a lot to time just trying to figure out "feminine motovation" on a simple level....with VERY limited success,I might add. This is WAY above my skill level! :-D
Lustforthrust
03-16-10, 07:06
http://www.darlingasian.com/
Starchild2012
03-16-10, 15:10
http://www.darlingasian.com/
Man where do you get these sites, i love fatties....:) thanks for the link
Member #4351
03-16-10, 15:22
Looks like a Jollibee´s fan club.
for those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
do you drop her?
do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
what is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? i don't get it.
unlike their western counterparts who are ready to go alone to the bar to hook up, asian regular girls are not emotionally secure. they feel more safer if they have a friend or family to meet a guy whether it is a philippino or foreigner. i do not think they are afraid of being raped especially in philippines.
irrespective of how naive they come across they know their rights and will assert themselves, even a farmgirl.
i would avoid any girl who wants a friend to tag along. how can you have a conversation one to one if some other person is in the way? even if your interest is solely to get into her pants one to one is better. always remember they need sex also. if she has somebody with her the scenario will be different.
1. cannot talk openly.
2. cannot even touch her to see her reaction. even if she is willing she will worry what her friend thinks.
3. even if she is willing to go with you her friend may put some sense into her telling her not to go. this happens quite often in bars here with a group of girls.
i always tell the girl i feel funny meeting her with a friend because we cannot discuss openly. usually it works. if she is really hesitant better to meet at a public place for lunch and see what happens. more often than not she will text you before you get to the room if she does not go with to start with.
I've set up numerous fake accounts on dia to see what the true nature of the women on DIA is like. After e-mailing hundreds of women with generic type of e-mails, I've concluded that 1/3 of all the women in dia will have sex for money if you don't make them sound like hookers. If you make it clear that you are only looking for loving friendship with benefits type of deal 1/3 of these women will take money knowing its just sex for money. Out of the 1/3 half will ask you for huge amounts of money I've had some ask for 1k u.s. a week to 1250 u.s. a month. Another 5 % will flirt with you and say no problem,but could you send over some money now because i have this due or that due. The majority of women on dia will ignore you when it sex for money deal, this does not mean they won't cheat you or try to scam you. I highly recommend that if you are looking for sex to set up two accounts and see which ones will have sex for money. These type of girls will be a 100% sure thing for sex on first date if you treat them right, since they are motivated by other things than love.
Cuba Tourist
03-17-10, 04:16
How do you set up multiple accounts on DIA without getting blacklisted by them?
FreebieFan
03-17-10, 05:37
http://www.darlingasian.com/Hmm theres another very similar site to this http://filipina4friends.com
Always got girls with C or D cups on it. No idea if the phone numbers work.
How do you set up multiple accounts on DIA without getting blacklisted by them?
You can do it multiple ways I assume that dia is looking for duplicate ip address when you set up your account, once you set up the account they no longer check are if you log onto dia from a single ip address even if you have multiple account. If you have a wireless connection you can leach off your neighbor wireless if its not password protected, you can go to internet cafe or public library to do it. I currently have 3 dia accounts at present and have been collecting phone number e-mail address and other vital info preparing for my next trip to PI. I for one am not looking for a wife or just someone to go to the mall with. My sole intention is great sex with super hot girl with gf sort of sex. In my experience the way to get really get sex is to find girls are hot looking that are morally questionable will have sex for money, but she not a pro. You play the i love you, i want you to be my gf and i want you to come visit me in the u.s. and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. When i get to PI I want the girl to be into me and just fuck the living shit out of me, even though I think in 90% of the cases the wild action is money driven or a better life. If you play your cards right you will be fucked the moment you get off the plane and fucked all night long all it will cost is a decent dinner and some star bucks.
FreebieFan
03-17-10, 10:28
. You play the I love you, I want you to be my gf and I want you to come visit me in the USA and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. When I get to PI I want the girl to be into me and just fuck the living shit out of me, even though I think in 90% of the cases the wild action is money driven or a better life. If you play your cards right you will be fucked the moment you get off the plane and fucked all night long all it will cost is a decent dinner and some star bucks.Actually you don't need to lie to them. You don't need to sell them some bullshit story and you certainly don't need to prey on their naivete.
We all enjoy great sex with some of these ladies on our trips, but I for one have a great deal of sucess by telling the ladies that I'm married so they know theres no chance of it going further, treating them well and with respect. I always get offers/requests for repeats.
I suspect your method just makes them hard, cynical, and know that theyve been fucked on so many levels. It also probably turns some of them into scammers as a way of payback.
Try and throw them a litttle more respect would be my advice whether you asked for it or not. I've only been mongering there for about 25 years now and have learned to recognise that treating these girls like we would like to be treated goes a long long way. Everyones got a choice.
Mariposa11
03-17-10, 10:32
i have read with some interest, and enjoyment some of the reports re: dia cb and other dating sites. reading manta rays description of a typical date is the best primer i have read on isg in years! i like his style!
i have tried the dating site routine myself and as other have suggested is hit and miss and a huge time drain. and as other have stated, and has been my experience, you often times get a girl who was not as adverstised i. e. used an old picture of herself or gain 30 pounds etc etc.
i would suggest taking a link out of the chain, and just chat up cam girls instead. my experience has been much better with this mo. number one, you can see the " goods" before you meet first hand i. e. flabby boobs see section scars whatever your fixation/fear is. so the physical side is a non issue before you actually meet this girl in person. because you have all ready seen her in the buff.
i know many would argue "cam girls are sharks"!. or "i'm not paying all that money to see a girl strip on cam"
this would be my rebuttal. yes some cam girls are sharks. but so are many of the girls on dia or cb. here is my simple mo. while giving a cam girl a "private" you get her ym (i have set up a dedicated ym account just for this purpose). chat her up there on ym after the private and for the preceeding weeks before your up comming trip. of course you mention that you would like to meet her.
what a coincidence that you would meet her online just weeks before your up coming trip to the philippines!
approximately 70% of the cam girls live in taguig or pasig or qc. so its not a far trip to your place in makati.
the other approx. 20% seem to live in pampanga somewhere. a/c or mabalacat tarlac, dau etc etc. ten percent are rep001tered all over the phils.
as far as your investment in the cam girls goes. a "private" will cost you anywhere from. 50 cents a minute to $1 usd a minute on sac or abc or acm. imho take the cheaper rate. which is often as good, as the more expensive. about 5 minutes will be all you will need to decide if this is a girl you are interested in. l i. e. maybe the girl is cute and has a nice body but is a bit non responsive or not to smiley or engaging. of course everyone will have there individual metrics for what is important to them.
in the end you have spent $2. 50 to $5 to watch a lovely gal. and now you know what you are getting on arrival. for some i understand this is expensive, but i would argue that so is your precious time on vacation, why waste it on hit and miss encounters! for you cheap charlies you can just get her ym in free chat. sometimes.
i would say on average i would spend $40-$80 on cam girls before an up comming trip. to whittle the list down to 3-4 solid candidates. this imho is money well spent! and a very enjoyable talent hunt! before your trip!
my combined batting average is about 70% with both cb/dia and the cam girl method. although i have sent many more cb/dia girls packing (goodbye) on initial meeting, and waste much more time on dia girls in idle chatter. perhaps only to discover later after wining and dining that she has national geograhphic boobs. that hang down to her waste. sorry but i'll pass on that!
i would say the down side of dating cam girls is that some. not all. are quite skillfull and persuasive at separating you from your money. for various accidents. and other frequent disasters. this however, can play to your advantage.
and yes there is usually a sister or cousin riding "shotgun" on the 1st meeting with both dia dates and cam dates. but a clever guy can separate them. of the 30% non success ratio about 1/2 i am not interested upon meeting i. e. smoker. and another 1/2 are not interested in me. perhaps because i vaguely resemble the elephant man.
also the cam girls are usually slightly more prone to monetary suggestion/temptation than a dia/cb girl. in other words they would be prone to be impressed that you are staying at the abc in a/c. or mandarin in makati, or be wowed at the nice restaurant you took her to. (jollibee. just kidding) connecting the dots. your quality will almost always be better taking the cam route. and. they are more likely to readlily "shag you rotten"
ingat
mariposa11
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Member #4351
03-17-10, 14:59
I think that it is extremely bad form to lie outright to girls and lead them on to later dump them. But that´s just me. My opinion is probably a minority one.
You play the i love you, i want you to be my gf and i want you to come visit me in the u.s. and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out.
Sorry Pimpster but what U describe above is, IMHO, just the wrong way to treat another human being. Period, paragraph, full stop.
There are many girls out there willing to sleep with us without having to resort to lies, deceit and the ultimate heartbreak that will come with your modus operandi.
My POV
ES
GregLondon
03-17-10, 18:37
.... You play the i love you, i want you to be my gf and i want you to come visit me in the u.s. and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. ................. all night long all it will cost is a decent dinner and some star bucks.
I very much agree with David and Eagle on this one. I'm afraid that many guys do have Pimpster's attitude , which is why I have some sympathy for the girls trying to make a few bucks from scam stories. one problem is that it is generally the sweet and rather naive girls that fall for this type of rouse. I'm hoping that Pimpster's main purpose is to get enthusiastic performance and that he still pays the girls the going rate, rather a than a cunning plan to cheat a 20 year old girl out of $20 for a nights work??
Actually you don't need to lie to them. You don't need to sell them some bullshit story and you certainly don't need to prey on their naivete.
We all enjoy great sex with some of these ladies on our trips, but I for one have a great deal of sucess by telling the ladies that I'm married so they know theres no chance of it going further, treating them well and with respect. I always get offers/requests for repeats.
True! No need to create elaborate stories so the girls will bed you. If you're a nice guy and they like you, you'll be in bed with them soon enough. I also let the girls know that I'm married. They weigh the options and usually sleep with me anyway knowing full well a serious relationship is out of the question. Success rate is hardly 100% using this approach, but I'm satified enough with the results I do get. It's also a safer way to do business because it allows me much more freedom to do my own thing when I re-visit some of the same islands without the fear of having a girls relatives or friends angrily pursuing me for breaking past promises.
YM
Here the thing, as I stated, I go for girls that are hot and motivated by money. So are they going to lie to me of course they are. 66% of women in dia will not consider sex for money outright, that doesn't mean they don't have some sort of plan or have multiple guys lined up. Do you guys honestly think you are the only one she flirting with making plans with? Its like saying guys here are only flirting with a single lady. Realistically what are the chance of you getting laid on the first date or second date or third date? If there no perception that you are their man or bf etc... the answer is pretty obvious, yes you can get laid but the amount of time that you have to invest in courting the girls are pretty high. Filipina aren't that easy, regardless of what you may believe. The reality is if these same girls were in the u.s. none of us would get any action unless you are loaded. We all lie to some degree. I've stated I placed numerous ads up one of them was a friends with benefit deal, the number of girls who responded were well under 50%, with that being said everyone who states that they are scoring huge numbers are either misleading the girls in some way, because if you placed an add up with friends with benefits you aren't really going to get any action. Most of these ladies are looking for bf marriage away out of PI. They may fuck you hoping and thinking that you are their way out. So seriously unless someone looking for a wife, or tells the girl that its a fling and I'm having sex with lots of girls than you are lying. I elect not to lie to girls that I know that are looking for a husband, I elect to lie to those who are looking for money. I would argue that my lie is, better if there such a thing than giving many of these ladies who are seeking husbands and a better future false hopes. IMO if you your motivation is sex with many different girls, the chance of you getting any sex without putting lots of time and effort without playing you are my gf deal is pretty low. Unless you are paying for it, i think most of us are saying oh i m looking for good gf bla bla bla when we chat is an outright lie giving false hope. I of course am not here to judge anyone, because imo we are all in the same boat there very little difference once you are able to do an honest assessment.
FreebieFan
03-18-10, 00:53
Realistically what are the chance of you getting laid on the first date or second date or third date? If there no perception that you are their man or bf etc. The answer is pretty obvious, yes you can get laid but the amount of time that you have to invest in courting the girls are pretty high. Filipina aren't that easy, regardless of what you may believe.Filipinas like most Asians don't have the same moral hang up about sex that the West does. Yes the Church tries to influence but weve all met gals that will happily jump from a 3some to some important mass.
Filipinas are easy if you know how to do it. The chance of getting laid on the first date is about 80%, and for those that insist on a second its probably 99%.
On more than one ocassion, I've met a gal in the afternoon, who said she wouldn't put out on a first date. So dropped her off, met her again at night and she had perfectly logically created the idea in her mind that it was now the second date.
These girls will sleep with you if they want to. Your job is creating the "want to ". And then the rest is easy.
FreebieFan
03-18-10, 02:40
i have read with some interest, and enjoyment some of the reports re: dia cb and other dating sites. reading manta rays description of a typical date is the best primer i have read on isg in years! i like his style!
i have tried the dating site routine myself and as other have suggested is hit and miss and a huge time drain. and as other have stated, and has been my experience, you often times get a girl who was not as adverstised i. e. used an old picture of herself or gain 30 pounds etc etc.
i would suggest taking a link out of the chain, and just chat up cam girls instead. my experience has been much better with this mo. number one, you can see the " goods" before you meet first hand i. e. flabby boobs see section scars whatever your fixation/fear is. so the physical side is a non issue before you actually meet this girl in person. because you have all ready seen her in the buff.
i know many would argue "cam girls are sharks"!. or "i'm not paying all that money to see a girl strip on cam"
this would be my rebuttal. yes some cam girls are sharks. but so are many of the girls on dia or cb. here is my simple mo. while giving a cam girl a "private" you get her ym (i have set up a dedicated ym account just for this purpose). chat her up there on ym after the private and for the preceeding weeks before your up comming trip. of course you mention that you would like to meet her.
what a coincidence that you would meet her online just weeks before your up coming trip to the philippines!
approximately 70% of the cam girls live in taguig or pasig or qc. so its not a far trip to your place in makati.
the other approx. 20% seem to live in pampanga somewhere. a/c or mabalacat tarlac, dau etc etc. ten percent are rep001tered all over the phils.
as far as your investment in the cam girls goes. a "private" will cost you anywhere from. 50 cents a minute to $1 usd a minute on sac or abc or acm. imho take the cheaper rate. which is often as good, as the more expensive. about 5 minutes will be all you will need to decide if this is a girl you are interested in. l i. e. maybe the girl is cute and has a nice body but is a bit non responsive or not to smiley or engaging. of course everyone will have there individual metrics for what is important to them.
in the end you have spent $2. 50 to $5 to watch a lovely gal. and now you know what you are getting on arrival. for some i understand this is expensive, but i would argue that so is your precious time on vacation, why waste it on hit and miss encounters! for you cheap charlies you can just get her ym in free chat. sometimes.
i would say on average i would spend $40-$80 on cam girls before an up comming trip. to whittle the list down to 3-4 solid candidates. this imho is money well spent! and a very enjoyable talent hunt! before your trip!
my combined batting average is about 70% with both cb/dia and the cam girl method. although i have sent many more cb/dia girls packing (goodbye) on initial meeting, and waste much more time on dia girls in idle chatter. perhaps only to discover later after wining and dining that she has national geograhphic boobs. that hang down to her waste. sorry but i'll pass on that!
i would say the down side of dating cam girls is that some. not all. are quite skillfull and persuasive at separating you from your money. for various accidents. and other frequent disasters. this however, can play to your advantage.
and yes there is usually a sister or cousin riding "shotgun" on the 1st meeting with both dia dates and cam dates. but a clever guy can separate them. of the 30% non success ratio about 1/2 i am not interested upon meeting i. e. smoker. and another 1/2 are not interested in me. perhaps because i vaguely resemble the elephant man.
also the cam girls are usually slightly more prone to monetary suggestion/temptation than a dia/cb girl. in other words they would be prone to be impressed that you are staying at the abc in a/c. or mandarin in makati, or be wowed at the nice restaurant you took her to. (jollibee. just kidding) connecting the dots. your quality will almost always be better taking the cam route. and. they are more likely to readlily "shag you rotten"
ingat
mariposa11
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.fully agree with you here. i've dated a few cam girls, some of whom i met thru dia and tagged. often they would be on cam in ym whilst preparing for their cam show. nice to see nearly naked girls and know what you are going to be getting.
if the girl shows you a pic and shes in a bikini and theres a waterfall or dolphin or wooded glade scene behind chances are shes a cam girl.
theres a street just off c5 highway in signal village in taguig where theres 3 or 4 houses where the cam girls work. theres a mamasan assigned to make sure the girls don't flash their goodies for free but the mamasan is often the fat type who falls asleep.
girls start work (6am) early to catch the us guys who need to see some filipina puss.
but overall, yes dating cam girls can be fun and a fruitful way to see the goods before delivery.
PolyOrchid
03-18-10, 03:19
Sorry Pimpster but what U describe above is, IMHO, just the wrong way to treat another human being. Period, paragraph, full stop.
There are many girls out there willing to sleep with us without having to resort to lies, deceit and the ultimate heartbreak that will come with your modus operandi.
My POV
ESHear, hear. Let's not forget these girls are human with dreams, hopes, aspirations. To come and lay a total bullshit story on them, imo, is downright shitty.
And, more than that, it's totally unnecessary. I always use the yardstick: would I want someone to be doing this to my sister, daughter, or loved one?
To each his own, but I am in agreement with ES and David.
GregLondon
03-18-10, 03:30
I don't quite understand what you are saying here Pimpster? The vast majority of girls (other than the scammers) on DIA etc put in their profile that they are looking for Mr Right/a long term relationship etc. For sure this is indeed the main aim of most of these girls. Some of these girls are "romantic" and believe that they should only date guys who at least claim that they are looking for a wife in some cases they will claim truthfully or not that they are a virgin and that they will give their virginity only when married or at least engaged.
Other girls are what is called here "practical" yes marriage is the main aim but if this is off the menu then they are willing to have sex with an expectation of some financial payback. Most girls are not wiling to be explicit about this on their profiles as (1) this is an aspect of their behaviour which they dont want to demonstrate A to potential husbands and b to their friends, relatives and colleagues and c because the sites may ban them.
As i understand it your policy is to spend alot of time with multiple profiles to identify these hot "practical" girls then to dupe them into going to bed with you with stories of potential marriage. Do you end up infact paying them something?
My policy is to identify these hot "practical" girls tell them exactly what im looking for (nsa gfe) and then when they come round and have fun hand them a 500/1000B tip as they say good bye. No lieing or multiple accounts needed. Everyone gets what they want. Generally the girls have alot of fun and end up becoming friends' who will drop around invite their freinds around to be fucked as well etc etc. Works well for me.
One caveate is that such a strategy is best employed in Manila/Cebu/AC. In more conservative places such as Davao where I am now you will almost certainly have more success if you at least leave open the possibility that you are interested in marriage.
I would agree with Pimpster that although he seems to be in a minority amongst the frequent posters on this site, i would guess that a large majority of the guys who come here are "economical with the truth" in terms of giving the impression that they are indeed looking for Miss Right or at least open to the possibility, when infact that is often a 10,000 to 1 possibility at least in relation to the girl in question.
Here the thing, as I stated, I go for girls that are hot and motivated by money. So are they going to lie to me of course they are. 66% of women in dia will not consider sex for money outright, that doesn't mean they don't have some sort of plan or have multiple guys lined up. Do you guys honestly think you are the only one she flirting with making plans with? Its like saying guys here are only flirting with a single lady. Realistically what are the chance of you getting laid on the first date or second date or third date? If there no perception that you are their man or bf etc... the answer is pretty obvious, yes you can get laid but the amount of time that you have to invest in courting the girls are pretty high. Filipina aren't that easy, regardless of what you may believe. The reality is if these same girls were in the u.s. none of us would get any action unless you are loaded. We all lie to some degree. I've stated I placed numerous ads up one of them was a friends with benefit deal, the number of girls who responded were well under 50%, with that being said everyone who states that they are scoring huge numbers are either misleading the girls in some way, because if you placed an add up with friends with benefits you aren't really going to get any action. Most of these ladies are looking for bf marriage away out of PI. They may fuck you hoping and thinking that you are their way out. So seriously unless someone looking for a wife, or tells the girl that its a fling and I'm having sex with lots of girls than you are lying. I elect not to lie to girls that I know that are looking for a husband, I elect to lie to those who are looking for money. I would argue that my lie is, better if there such a thing than giving many of these ladies who are seeking husbands and a better future false hopes. IMO if you your motivation is sex with many different girls, the chance of you getting any sex without putting lots of time and effort without playing you are my gf deal is pretty low. Unless you are paying for it, i think most of us are saying oh i m looking for good gf bla bla bla when we chat is an outright lie giving false hope. I of course am not here to judge anyone, because imo we are all in the same boat there very little difference once you are able to do an honest assessment.
FreebieFan
03-19-10, 00:46
Met a young lady on last trip, took her to Eurotel Pasay road ( no Victoria Court being available in said location ) and we did our thing.
Havent heard from her since till today I get a message on Tagged
" Hello how are you now... I miss you.... oh did I tell you, its my birthday soon".
No guessing which was the more salient part of her message lol.
GregLondon
03-20-10, 21:02
Had a girl in Cebu contact me via Skype this afternoon. She wondered if i could come around for some free anything goes sex with her. She showed everything and looked sexy on cam. The catch? Well it would be on cam and her Saudi boyfriend would be watching and presumably funding the endeavours. Seemed like too much potential for severe embarrassment to save 1000P to me.
William Saw
03-21-10, 03:25
Most of them are woman looking for white men from America and Europe, their one way ticket out of the Philippines.
Asians, please don't waste your time.
GregLondon
03-22-10, 10:43
Having been her a while and being relatively net savvy I feel I have got a good handle on the net dating scene. However though one gets plenty of "interested" glances wandering around a typical Phils Mall, I have had very little success in converting this interest into results. Would anyone with a better track record like to give some useful advice as to a modus operandi?
Member #4351
03-22-10, 17:55
This guy has some tips:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=990933&postcount=3513
Mongerer69
03-22-10, 19:59
I have been communicating with a girl I've met several times in HK and Manila and she always ends the message ending with "Mhuaw".
Does anybody know the actual meaning of mhuaw?
I've done some research and have come up blank.
Cunning Stunt
03-22-10, 20:17
Having been her a while and being relatively net savvy I feel I have got a good handle on the net dating scene. However though one gets plenty of "interested" glances wandering around a typical Phils Mall, I have had very little success in converting this interest into results. Would anyone with a better track record like to give some useful advice as to a modus operandi?
Had plenty of success mall hunting over the years. In some malls such as Harrison's and Robinsons Ermita, it is comparatively easy as girls go there looking to be made. In other malls I always, when a girl looks at me with interest (you must know that unique ballsy Pinay direct eye contact fuck me look?) I always smile. If she smiles back then often, you are halfway to getting into her knickers! Then don't be shy, say 'Mabuhay'. And then invite her to join you for coffee. The rest is up to you but compared to many places in the world, its relatively easy. If an old fart like me can have some noted successes, then anyone can:D.
Cunning Stunt
03-22-10, 20:22
I have been communicating with a girl I've met several times in HK and Manila and she always ends the message ending with "Mhuaw".
Does anybody know the actual meaning of mhuaw?
I've done some research and have come up blank.
Often spelled mwaah and other variants, it is simply a Pinay way of blowing you a kiss:).
Wicked Roger
03-23-10, 04:57
But overall, yes dating cam girls can be fun and a fruitful way to see the goods before delivery.
Agree with FF. Had a few myself and always fun. Also when you get to know them (ie they have met you, shagged you etc) then I can chat and watch them sometimes do a cam show for a paying punter LOL - depends if they can get YM and the wbecam show working same time.
But at least you see the goodies and are not surprised by C sections, saggy rack, hairy pussy etc
One time the girl came with her other cam girl friend who was curious...curious enough to join in after a while of pretending not to listen and see what was going on whuile she chatted on my laptopp.
Certainly has it benefits...:D
Had a girl in Cebu contact me via Skype this afternoon. She wondered if i could come around for some free anything goes sex with her. She showed everything and looked sexy on cam. The catch? Well it would be on cam and her Saudi boyfriend would be watching and presumably funding the endeavours. Seemed like too much potential for severe embarrassment to save 1000P to me.I was offered the same!
I thought exactly the same as well!
Hi, my first report on ISG!
I would to thank everyone who has reported on here and given invaluable information to myself. Also thanks to a couple of memebers for PMs which have resulted in some good fun!
I have been in PI for the last 3 weeks and have not had the need to go to a bar/club to pick up a girl. DIA is the way forward! Also as everyone says I have had some good rsults just being in the Malls.
I thought about lying on my profile but in the end decided honesty was the best policy and have ahd some great results. I said I wasnt looking for a relationship as I am travelling but was up for some fun and that I am generous and kind. Also any women who liked women were more than welcome!
I have now got to the point where I am having to put meetings off!
I will write a proper report when I have time but just to say once again thanks to everyone.
PS, if anyone knows any 3 holers who are bi just PM me! LOL
Happy hunting
Gaijin Gigolo
03-23-10, 17:33
Haha...this is about as well stated as I've ever seen a description of the Filipina mindset. Well done, Commander. :-)
Filipinas like most Asians don't have the same moral hang up about sex that the West does. Yes the Church tries to influence but weve all met gals that will happily jump from a 3some to some important mass.
Filipinas are easy if you know how to do it. The chance of getting laid on the first date is about 80%, and for those that insist on a second its probably 99%.
On more than one ocassion, I've met a gal in the afternoon, who said she wouldn't put out on a first date. So dropped her off, met her again at night and she had perfectly logically created the idea in her mind that it was now the second date.
These girls will sleep with you if they want to. Your job is creating the "want to ". And then the rest is easy.
Rangertech69
03-28-10, 14:54
man where do you get these sites, i love fatties....:) thanks for the linkpeer block reports that site is a bad site tries to infect with a trojan downloader
Starchild2012
03-29-10, 15:38
peer block reports that site is a bad site tries to infect with a trojan downloader
thanks man,, my anti virus did not report it...guess i have to scan the whole system again.
DIA Gal for someone in or going to the Phils...............................
Juz a Sporty Woman who can PLAY hard!!!
I love to be*** NAUGHTY ***in the...
Funniest possible way I can)
AM SPORTy woman!!! WHO can DRIbble and Shoot!!!
A SPORTY woman who Can PLAY HARD!!!
They call me!!!
Hot (careful u might burn)
they call me!!!
sexy (awww thanks for the compliments)
they call me!!!
"MISS FrIendSHIP" (absolutely true)
A bIG MouTH!!!(yeah pretty good to eat something lol)
Noisy (yah can hear me scream!!!)
I make people laugh!!! (as i pay them to laugh and tickle them)
Pretty, (ehem!!!)
stunning,(Wahh i leave it to u)
Bad girl(its good to be bad sometimes its where funniest things in life)
SWeet!!! (yeah i taste like cake...
(have a try its free taste)
Compassionate!!! (yeah u can lean on me..
... cry on my shoulder..
I'll be there for YOU!)
Am no fake!!! No surgeries!!! No two face!!!
PArty Girl
Miss congeniality
Crazy.......(I am)
simple...
NauGHty... (I love to be NAUGHTY in the...
funniest possible way I can)
trustworthy...
ADventorous!!!
Loca!!!
Emotionally sensitive!!! (not really into
... drama thou)
WILD.... (yeah most specially in ??(HAving fun *wink)
I like reading books …
Ilove my Family!!
I look after myself of course but
Can’t be bothered to drop my hair in the mud...
i can’t describe the whole me but i can say in simple word is that am really COOL and Simply loving life!!!
DIA Gal for someone in or going to the Phils...............................
Juz a Sporty Woman who can PLAY hard!!!
I love to be*** NAUGHTY ***in the...
Funniest possible way I can)
AM SPORTy woman!!! WHO can DRIbble and Shoot!!!
A SPORTY woman who Can PLAY HARD!!!
They call me!!!
Hot (careful u might burn)
they call me!!!
sexy (awww thanks for the compliments)
they call me!!!
"MISS FrIendSHIP" (absolutely true)
A bIG MouTH!!!(yeah pretty good to eat something lol)
Noisy (yah can hear me scream!!!)
I make people laugh!!! (as i pay them to laugh and tickle them)
Pretty, (ehem!!!)
stunning,(Wahh i leave it to u)
Bad girl(its good to be bad sometimes its where funniest things in life)
SWeet!!! (yeah i taste like cake...
(have a try its free taste)
Compassionate!!! (yeah u can lean on me..
... cry on my shoulder..
I'll be there for YOU!)
Am no fake!!! No surgeries!!! No two face!!!
PArty Girl
Miss congeniality
Crazy.......(I am)
simple...
NauGHty... (I love to be NAUGHTY in the...
funniest possible way I can)
trustworthy...
ADventorous!!!
Loca!!!
Emotionally sensitive!!! (not really into
... drama thou)
WILD.... (yeah most specially in ??(HAving fun *wink)
I like reading books …
Ilove my Family!!
I look after myself of course but
Can’t be bothered to drop my hair in the mud...
i can’t describe the whole me but i can say in simple word is that am really COOL and Simply loving life!!!
This could well be a ladyboy too Eagle. "She" uses words that are typical of many baklas to evade saying a straight out lie.
But then again ..... she could be too good to be true, and everything she says is truthful except that ...... she is a filipina LOL
ParnellCat
03-30-10, 13:02
Been working in Manila briefly but more work than mongering, unfortunately.
Really to the question on mall hunting, the only advice I have, is to just say the first thing that pops into your head.
Anything.
Any response from the target means you're half way there.
My best 2 conquests last week were actually one on the way to the mall and the other leaving.
I was leaving Greenbelt after a work meeting and staying in a hotel nearby.
It was about 6. 30 ish and office girls everywhere.
Went into one of those under the road walkways and right beside me is a very cute girl with small backpack.
All I said was, Its hot.
She said, too hot. My hotel was about 200 yards down the street so we were talking as both going the same way.
Stopped opposite my hotel and said, look I was thinking of getting a massage but I think it'd be more fun if I got a massage from you.
She said the usual I don't know how to massage and said she had to go.
I replied I was going to pay 1000 for a one hour massage.
Her. Really?
At this point I could literally see her brain doing the math.
So I threw in but it'd have to be a sexy massage.
Her: Really (then nervous laugh.)
Me. Yep I stay just here, pointing across the road.
Her: I've got to go.
Me: Ok 1500 because you look so nice and I've got to go out in a hour anyway. True as I had a work dinner.
Within 10 minutes we were banging like rabbits.
20 years old, immaculate body.
Time from meeting to hotel. About 6 minutes.
Occupation. Part time retail assistant. But looking for something better.
Got her number and saw her a few times.
As a follow up to anyone who read my Cebu report, I flew down to Cebu for the weekend to spend a weekend with Shopgirl at a Mactan resort. Although the word resort is a bit of an overstatement.
Fantastic until departure time for all the tears.
Filipino girls fall deep fast or more likely are seriously good actresses.
Guys living in The Philippines have got a good thing going on.
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Wicked Roger
03-31-10, 05:54
Had a girl in Cebu contact me via Skype this afternoon. She wondered if i could come around for some free anything goes sex with her. She showed everything and looked sexy on cam. The catch? Well it would be on cam and her Saudi boyfriend would be watching and presumably funding the endeavours. Seemed like too much potential for severe embarrassment to save 1000P to me.
GL
Sounds like something I would do to overcome the boredom of Saudi :D Trust me I would never take your photos........
But it was not me but seems like a few kinky mongers from Saudi....must be the heat.
Catch you soon
FreebieFan
03-31-10, 06:50
GL
Sounds like something I would do to overcome the boredom of Saudi :D Trust me I would never take your photos.
But it was not me but seems like a few kinky mongers from Saudi....must be the heat.
Catch you soonI once worked in Saudi. Its soooo depressing. No alcohol (except the crap you brew yourself) no porn, no women at work, no women drivers, nothing except endless wanking (unless you can ocassionally score a nurse)
No wonder the guy was happy to see his gal on cam.
When I was ther the price of a new Penthouse was US400!
Check this out
http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/w4m/1669639221
This guy been married to this filipina for less than 2 years and she has her claws into him big time money wise, poor guy.
Anyone out there using this site called tagged? I guess it is tagged dot com. I was just on the site and you can't get any kind of a feel for it since they won't let you do anything until you create a profile.
It seems there are a lot of people talking about it and it maybe getting very popular with the pinays.
What I am trying to avoid is one of those crappy facebook type of things where you spend all kinds of time reading about all of the stupid things that everyone did today.
I much prefer the search out people by there age, height,. Etc. Am having good luck with blossom and DIA, but don't want to miss the boat on others.
FreebieFan
04-01-10, 01:25
Anyone out there using this site called tagged? I guess it is tagged dot com. I was just on the site and you can't get any kind of a feel for it since they won't let you do anything until you create a profile.
It seems there are a lot of people talking about it and it maybe getting very popular with the pinays.
What I am trying to avoid is one of those crappy facebook type of things where you spend all kinds of time reading about all of the stupid things that everyone did today.
I much prefer the search out people by there age, height,. Etc. Am having good luck with blossom and DIA, but don't want to miss the boat on others.Tagged is very easy. Look on the match part, click yes on a liely contender, send her some sweet words and the rest is history. Those with phone numbers shown are generally young students, TS or high mielage girls. Those with waterfalls or similar sickly scenes behind there pics are webcam girls as are those with multiple pics in bras .
Wicked Roger
04-02-10, 07:47
I once worked in Saudi. Its soooo depressing. No alcohol (except the crap you brew yourself) no porn, no women at work, no women drivers, nothing except endless wanking (unless you can ocassionally score a nurse)
No wonder the guy was happy to see his gal on cam.
When I was ther the price of a new Penthouse was US400!
FF
Trust me you can get all that you need here.....;):D yes booze can be expensive but I prefer lots of filipina nurse...some in pigtails and schoolie uniforms LOL
Have to work at it but soon will be Manila again having a long weekend R&R something I will be doing regualrly now so hope out dates cross...
GoodEnough
04-02-10, 07:51
FF
Trust me you can get all that you need here.....;):D yes booze can be expensive but I prefer lots of filipina nurse...some in pigtails and schoolie uniforms LOL
Have to work at it but soon will be Manila again having a long weekend R&R something I will be doing regualrly now so hope out dates cross...
Let's see, Roger, Manila or Saudi, Saudi or Manila, they're so close in what they offer that it's a bit difficult to choose. Seriously, when are you getting back here?
Wicked Roger
04-02-10, 08:18
Let's see, Roger, Manila or Saudi, Saudi or Manila, they're so close in what they offer that it's a bit difficult to choose. Seriously, when are you getting back here?
LOL
You are right and you know my preferences....issue for me is if I was ever to work in PI would i ever get any work done or would I be too tired and focused on more important matters
Have fun and see you soon
You are right and you know my preferences....issue for me is if I was ever to work in PI would i ever get any work done or would I be too tired and focused on more important matters
......
I live in Manila mate and I manage to keep it balanced but it is a struggle to keep a focus on the work. I just keep reminding myself that without the work the "more important matters" would not be as accessible but it sure requires some discipline.
Happy for you to distract me though WR on your next pass through Manila (if ever the women allow you to get out of Cebu LOL)
Cuba Tourist
04-04-10, 06:20
DIA girl confesses---
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl..good company...find me bin candybar
bargirl,stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can
DIA girl confesses---
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl..good company...find me bin candybar
bargirl,stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can
Can you please PM or post her user name? I know alot of girls from Candy and I am curious who it is:D.
Thanks
Robb
Wicked Roger
04-09-10, 08:32
I live in Manila mate and I manage to keep it balanced but it is a struggle to keep a focus on the work. I just keep reminding myself that without the work the "more important matters" would not be as accessible but it sure requires some discipline.
Happy for you to distract me though WR on your next pass through Manila (if ever the women allow you to get out of Cebu LOL)
RK
Look forward to it and may have a Cebu girl in tow as well ...well am a creature of habit especially if she is so cute and likes to have lessons from Professor WR. And lessons may ned a another person ;)
Am there May sometime so will definitely catch up and we can see if you can be distracted the WR way :D
The Departed
04-13-10, 08:07
Salamat,
I have perused this section with interest often and found it helpful. But not as helpful as DIA, Tagged and YM.
Here is what I think and I ended up doing. I got me a turnkey in Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. A turnkey, a lady who oens up all the other ladies for me. In 21 days, I had more than 40 women, all free (though freebies are not free: paties, booze etc).
Think of it this way. (some credit to Dragon Slayer). Dress well, play the gentleman. Remember most Pinays have no money, nothing. Your wallet is your advantage. But you have to go to where you get bang for the buck. That means you go to where other foreigners do not go. Like Dragon Slayer, you dress well etc. But unlike Dragon Slayer, you set your own rules up front. In my case, I get them to promise their freinds in advance and, playing the numbers game, it works.
There is an old saying in the markets. If you want to hunt elephants, you go to elephant country. Good Enough is wrong with his untested tehory that you should stake out student nurses. They are young and upwardly mobile. You will not strike there.
Don't believe me? Try getting the Pinays living overseas who advertise on DIA. Not a chance if, like many of us, you are an aged creep, with a good banak balance but lack of power in the pistol.
One more important thing to think of. Young penniless Pinays do a lot of bonking, in beaches and woods and other places "where the ragged people go". If you want bang for your buck, that is the place to go.
I could relat what I did but that will only get censored. I like playing the game this way. More bang for the buck. As that pushes boundaries. Horses for courses, of course.
Ingat
Mwaaaaah
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Cuba Tourist
04-14-10, 03:14
One DIA girl wrote as her header--
I want to meet someone that I can spent his love for the rest of his life...
I think she was thinking
I want to meet someone that I can spend his money for the rest of his life...
Haha. I thought the same thing too. I mean. With the wrong grammar and all. Thanks for the heads up by the way. A reminder to myself of how important it is to really read between the lines. "Spent" is one word to look out for.
I will surely keep your advice up front that's for sure. Who needs a costly hotel stay when you can it elsewhere twice as cheap (and even for free?). You sure are a player, I tell you that. And a skilled one. I have this thing for pinay nurses but not that your threads are discouraging me to go after them or anything. But regardless of what they say I always ask for an ID. I met this hot nurse once in qc and I got turned on with her big ass tits (including that wonderful body and face). The moment I met her we had a few quick drinks then the most wonderful two hours of my entire stay in the Phils. Was worth every penny I threw at her. It's ironic. Most women here (escorts included) would charge over 3k for a two hour stint. But the one that I had up and running was ok with the 2,5. Is it me or am I just damn lucky to find a diamond in the rough?
I got this one on Yahoo cam to cam and she not only showed it all she masturbated on cam. Probably would fu*k your brains out if you are in the Phils.
Looks like a decent rack also but again she is only 20 soooooooo
ES
Here is what I think and I ended up doing. I got me a turnkey in Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. A turnkey, a lady who oens up all the other ladies for me. In 21 days, I had more than 40 women, all free (though freebies are not free: paties, booze etc).
Interesting post DP even getting a suggestion for a RoD link! For me a 'turnkey' means a ready made family, step in and your good to go. What your talking about is a neighborhood 'mamasan'. :D
Knowing she doesn't have much of a chance with you but wants to see you happy and is willing to intoduce you to family or friends! Matchmaking is a national pastime in many circles. Have met many women this way myself and some were real gems!
Has anybody had any experiences with AsianTrueHearts.com ?
Salamat,
I have perused this section with interest often and found it helpful. But not as helpful as DIA, Tagged and YM.
Here is what I think and I ended up doing. I got me a turnkey in Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. A turnkey, a lady who oens up all the other ladies for me. In 21 days, I had more than 40 women, all free (though freebies are not free: paties, booze etc).
Think of it this way. (some credit to Dragon Slayer). Dress well, play the gentleman. Remember most Pinays have no money, nothing. Your wallet is your advantage. But you have to go to where you get bang for the buck. That means you go to where other foreigners do not go. Like Dragon Slayer, you dress well etc. But unlike Dragon Slayer, you set your own rules up front. In my case, I get them to promise their freinds in advance and, playing the numbers game, it works.
There is an old saying in the markets. If you want to hunt elephants, you go to elephant country. Good Enough is wrong with his untested tehory that you should stake out student nurses. They are young and upwardly mobile. You will not strike there.
Don't believe me? Try getting the Pinays living overseas who advertise on DIA. Not a chance if, like many of us, you are an aged creep, with a good banak balance but lack of power in the pistol.
One more important thing to think of. Young penniless Pinays do a lot of bonking, in beaches and woods and other places "where the ragged people go". If you want bang for your buck, that is the place to go.
I could relat what I did but that will only get censored. I like playing the game this way. More bang for the buck. As that pushes boundaries. Horses for courses, of course.
Ingat
Mwaaaaah
Wow you are the man! I find it interesting that you went to Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. How did you find those locations?
You also state that you got all for free (parties and booze) but yet you also say "Your wallet is your advantage". So you are saying you did not tip any girls? If that is true, I am surprised you made out of there alive.
Not flaming, just wondering out loud.
Robb
Marconista
04-15-10, 00:31
Dont be scare of censorship here, so please do share.
I am in Manila within a few days (but scared that the vulcano-eruption in Iceland may delay my trip since the ashes are expected to stop flights all over nothern europe for the next couple of days), and will stay 11 nights.
I have lined up 18 ladies for the 11 nights, so I am curious if I manage to work it all out. I have 5 previous friends that will meet for sure, but putting them on hold, since I am always looking for new opportunities.
I hope to be able to share with you guys how I approached the ladies via DiA, Tagged and further chatted with them on YM before I "landed" them.
Ingatz
I could relat what I did but that will only get censored.
Ingat
Mwaaaaah
Interesting post DP even getting a suggestion for a RoD link! For me a 'turnkey' means a ready made family, step in and your good to go. What your talking about is a neighborhood 'mamasan'. :D
Knowing she doesn't have much of a chance with you but wants to see you happy and is willing to intoduce you to family or friends! Matchmaking is a national pastime in many circles. Have met many women this way myself and some were real gems!
I love this idea.
It is amazing how such a simple suggestion like this switches on a light in my brain".
I can do this with all of the women that I have "ignored" in the past because they didn't do much for me.
Thanks
The Departed
04-16-10, 17:01
Dia is a great experiment. Indeed, I was going to post here some time ago about an odd "lady" that others had rightly highlighted.
To get back to my track. If you go around the cheap suburbs (not the ghettoes or the suicide missions), you will see lots of young guys hanging around, tongues dragging off the ground like dobs sniffing a b-tch in heat. They might shoot some hoops or drink some revolting cheap beer etc. But their main focus is cheap pussy and how to charm their ways into the forgotten women who are everywhere the poor people are.
What do those women do for entertainment? They fuck these young dudes and hang out in Internet cafes close to them. Most likely, you will never come across those cafes.
When you are in Makati and Ermita, you are in the wrong area. It is the same everywhere: Paris, Roma, even fucked up Berlin. So you have to get your ass to where the action is and not get killed in the process.
You need to get about a dozen suspects, minimum, on line in any time window. I go on about my stress levels and all kinds of domestic issues. But I tell them I am in the Philippines for two things (as well as the tourist shit I always mention which has no interest for me).
These two things are to find the right woman for me and to fuck all round me. My heart needs the first, my stress needs the second. (My heart needs the first like it needs a big flesh wound)
I have menrtioned two places but I have got many others. Then I start the pruning process. Too much familiarity with too many foreigners, out. Sick mothers, buffalo, daughters, sons, out. Insistent I help with pending fianncial crises, out.
I always bring Borocay or some other shit hole we should go to cement our love into the equation. Then I suggest the idea of a friend. When that is accepted, I suggest I fuck the friend, we do 3 somes etc. That narrows the field down more. Then I get serious with those who are left.
I only need one or two to win. And usually a motel, where locals stay.
It takes a bit of time and effort but it pays off. They insist on being your guide. You get to do From Here to Eternity, fucking on a moonlit beach and any other innocent thing you want.
Downside is it can get a little claustrophobic. Of course, you have to go shopping (with a mini army of amateur hookers in tow). But it depends on you how you control your wallet.
You obviously have to take security measures, like guarding your room with all the traffic and letting them know it is your room, not theirs. But hey, I cannot fuck them for you too.
There is no point relating what I do or how I acheive my goals as they get cut. I simply avoid the tourist hookers and shop local and non professional. I am sure others here are much better at it.
Cuba Tourist
04-17-10, 13:17
rechiell of Cebu says---
i dont like horny people so if you are one of them please STAY AWAY.,,,,,!!!!=')
Rubio Tonto
04-18-10, 10:20
Sadly, judging by that photo, I don't think she'll have any problems with horny guys.
Cuba Tourist
04-19-10, 05:50
Hello guys... MY HEART IS FOR SALE!!!! IF YOU CAN AFFORD,PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND A MESSAGE...
unfadingrose
Is she aware of what she is writing?
Cuba Tourist
04-19-10, 06:44
i love only korean.,.,.eheheheh
cute.,,jolly.,.,and soo very pasaway.,.,
my y.m
kimlaicalyjhen_10@yahoo.com
and heres my # 09392010335
if u are not korean or japanese dont contact me ok.,./,
cuttie_anne18 from angeles
Check out this one's profile - the pic looks OK too
pennylove46
i am sexy woman have great tits...wants to befor fun...
simple like sexy hot girl..with a nice tits and nice body too..and sometimes just made me fun...
i want some sexy man that make me happy all the time...and sexy too..and sometimes for fun..
GregLondon
04-24-10, 05:12
Those seeking a low mileage girl with a slim body and great firm boobs might like top check out Angel. DIA "Angel in Phils" with the spaces. The current DIA photo is not the strongest she has but you can ask for her facebook etc, She's based in Iligan so gets very few visitors, She spent about a week with me in Cagayan and could also travel to Cebu if you get her a ticket. Very willing to please. Her teeth are not in great shape but otherwise there is little to complain about. She's short of cash now so OKied me to mention her ID here.
Those seeking a low mileage girl with a slim body and great firm boobs might like top check out Angel. DIA "Angel in Phils" with the spaces. The current DIA photo is not the strongest she has but you can ask for her facebook etc, She's based in Iligan so gets very few visitors, She spent about a week with me in Cagayan and could also travel to Cebu if you get her a ticket. Very willing to please. Her teeth are not in great shape but otherwise there is little to complain about. She's short of cash now so OKied me to mention her ID here.
Greg - that has got to be one of the best profiles I have ever read on DIA. Very very sensible; states it exactly as it is; says exactly what she wants, and is very aware of what guys on DIA get up to.
I just hope that anyone who contacts her is actually planning to visit her or have her visit him AND will not try to short-change her. I also hope they will treat her well too because she comes across as a very real, genuine, provincia with very big goals and dreams. You have validated her profile by your post.
GregLondon
04-24-10, 12:13
Greg - that has got to be one of the best profiles I have ever read on DIA. Very very sensible; states it exactly as it is; says exactly what she wants, and is very aware of what guys on DIA get up to.
I just hope that anyone who contacts her is actually planning to visit her or have her visit him AND will not try to short-change her. I also hope they will treat her well too because she comes across as a very real, genuine, provincia with very big goals and dreams. You have validated her profile by your post.
If she were smart she would move somewhere where there is more chance to meet foreign guys. With her body she could be earning 30,000 P + a month in Angeles or Manila and if someone found her before she got to jaded they would probably fix her teeth and take her long term. But instead she stays in Iligan rather wasting her golden years.
Cuba Tourist
04-24-10, 13:18
you looking for a friend or a boyfriend?
looking for boyfriend..,,,:)
how about you????hehhehe
but boyfriend will be horny, wouldnt he?
nope i dont want horny one..,,,::((
GregLondon
04-24-10, 16:24
Had a rather pleasant day here in Puerto Princesa. PP is actually one of my fave provincial capitals in the Phils. It's much less polluted than most towns in the Phils, has a bunch of pretty good restaurants and some decent hotel options. Hibiscus Gardens and Puerto Pension are both well run and stylish places in the centre. Royal Oberoi is a very poorly run place about 10km out of town, but has a very big pool and is set in tropical gardens with wifi access etc so its kind of pleasant to lounge away ones time there.
The crystal clear waters and islands of Honda Bay are just 15kms away. And El nido an arduous 6-7 hour van ride.
As with most provincial towns in the Phils there is plenty of sexual fun to be had but it is not as ubiquitous or easy to come by as in Manila, Cebu and Angeles. There are a bunch of bars here but I've never ventured into them so can't report what the action is like.
There are few girls from PP in DIA or the other dating sites. They dont get the "traffic" the girls in Manila or Cebu get and are not into scamming in the way the Mindanao girls and LBs are. So I rely mostly on Tagged for prospects.
I have a regular girl here who is now bisexual and loves to hunt for new girls with me. Today's catch turned out to be a deaf/mute girl. I was in two minds whether this would be a good idea, but it turned out to be great fun. Unlike some recent efforts she was super slim but with good B cup boobs and at 24 not passed it. I didn't mention my "friend" in the texts. I find that if you talk about having a threesome before hand few inexperienced girls will be up for it as they are scared the other girl will be jealous, however if you just introduce your existing girl as a freind when the new girl arrives and the existing girl is kind and friendly they soon get into the idea and you can generally get into a pretty full on threesome. generaly speqaking the girls are more inexperienced girls are much more comfortable with female company than your company so having an additional girl around is generally seenn to be a good thing as long as she is friendly. The deaf girl stayed the afternoon and gave me 3 rounds before we took her out to dinner and was very grateful for the 500P I gave her. She was super tight at first so was obviously low mileage but got really turned onn and wet whilst sucking my freinds boobs.
Those who have suffered from nagging wives should give these deaf/mute girls a spin there are some real advantages. No more "embarrassing silences" at dinner as its always silent. No more nagging or bolshiness. And she cant say "no".
Greg - that has got to be one of the best profiles I have ever read on DIA. @ GL
Who do you think you are that you have to make up the profile wordings for the girls you meet and then "sell" them here?
I am fine with my critisizm here because I met one of the ladies promoted by you here and this was PURE bullshit.
I don't tell the name of the girl but Why are you doing this?
Are you someone special?
Let the guys discover themselves w/o you pre-riding the girls for us.
Thats disgusting and awful.
STOP doing this.
Cunning Stunt
04-24-10, 17:59
Those who have suffered from nagging wives should give these deaf/mute girls a spin there are some real advantages. No more "embarrassing silences" at dinner as its always silent. No more nagging or bolshiness. And she cant say "no".
I can vouch for that. Never had a Filipina deaf/mute but I used to have a really tiny and very cute, mute Thai gf. She was so very sweet and seemingly vulnerable and made the most erotic little squeaking noises when she got excited, like an orgasmic mouse on ice!
She was such a horny little rodent that I suspect that 'no' would not have been in her vocabulary even had she been able to speak.
Cuba Tourist
04-24-10, 22:42
Rampana,
I definitely don't want to get into a fight here but Greg -- whom I've never met -- helped me find this great girl when I was in the South a few months ago. He really went out of his way to help me. I think he's just trying to help these girls. If you don't like it, it's easy enough to steer clear of them. The writing is so different that it is obvious who has had help. Please post some interesting stories of your own. Looking forward to reading them.
Cuba Tourist
04-24-10, 22:44
when I used to be going to Cuba, I spent the night with a deaf girl. She was part of the whole gang that used to hang out on 23rd St., the main intersection in the new part of Havana. It was definitely an experience. I found a really weird to have so much trouble communicating with someone. I think she could lip read -- I'm not sure how my American accent would have affected her ability to understand my Spanish --but I couldn't understand anything she said.
Rubio Tonto
04-25-10, 00:02
Rampana, do you understand the purpose of this website? Maybe another site like Christian Singles is more appropriate for you.
Her name is honeymiz and this is what she says. Admirable in my POV
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl
bargirl, stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can
Her name is honeymiz and this is what she says. Admirable in my POV
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl
bargirl, stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can
I know her and I talked her last weekend about her profile on DIA.
Robb
Cunning Stunt
04-25-10, 11:07
@ GL
Who do you think you are that you have to make up the profile wordings for the girls you meet and then "sell" them here?
I am fine with my critisizm here because I met one of the ladies promoted by you here and this was PURE bullshit.
I don't tell the name of the girl but Why are you doing this?
Are you someone special?
Let the guys discover themselves w/o you pre-riding the girls for us.
Thats disgusting and awful.
STOP doing this.
That is absolute bollocks and thank god we don't have too many like you on the forums, otherwise it would be all a waste of time, dominated by non-contributors and ego driven idiots of whom we have too many to begin with.
The primary purpose of the forum is the exchange of information and, in its ultimate manifestation, the exchange of real time contact details of available girls. In this respect, the contribution of Greg London is outstanding whereas yours is minimal.
ISG is like an iceberg - we see the tip in the forums but there is much more going on beneath the surface with members exchanging information. Some of my best contacts have been made in this way and I have similarly helped out others to connect with likely lasses.
If you, and one or two others, had their way, ISG would be a sterile wasteland without reason or purpose. Thankfully it isn't.
Rampana, do you understand the purpose of this website? Maybe another site like Christian Singles is more appropriate for you.Maybe you're right.
FreebieFan
04-26-10, 08:54
Ive known a super hot lady for about 2 years now. Lives in province and we have met many times, when she had a wonderful personality, was most sexual girl I have known putting everything into her and my satisfaction.
Got pregnant by some Californian guy about 4 years ago. He would send her US$200 per month which allowed her to live. About a year ago he stopped sending money, typhoon Onday wiped out her house and her workplace flooded so job disappeared etc.
Today she sends me a very depressing message on YM:
"Sorry for it is really a depression of having nothing,the life of having nothing to eat,life of always having empty stomach,depression of not knowing how to have a better life for my daughter coz of the situation,the headache from mr California,how to help my family, lots of things on my mind. It is all hurting me sir."
I cn only say thank goodness I have an easier life. And yes Ive tried to help the poor girl who is one of the sweetest Ive ever met. Sometimes life is just toygh for some of these sweet ladies that we love so much..
Maybe you're right.Meant to be very ironic from me :)
I stick with everything I said and would reconfirm this also over and over.
Just to make the point clear!
Member #3428
04-26-10, 22:10
Ive known a super hot lady for about 2 years now. Lives in province and we have met many times, when she had a wonderful personality, was most sexual girl I have known putting everything into her and my satisfaction.
Got pregnant by some Californian guy about 4 years ago. He would send her US$200 per month which allowed her to live. About a year ago he stopped sending money, typhoon Onday wiped out her house and her workplace flooded so job disappeared etc.
Today she sends me a very depressing message on YM:
"Sorry for it is really a depression of having nothing,the life of having nothing to eat,life of always having empty stomach,depression of not knowing how to have a better life for my daughter coz of the situation,the headache from mr California,how to help my family, lots of things on my mind. It is all hurting me sir."
I cn only say thank goodness I have an easier life. And yes Ive tried to help the poor girl who is one of the sweetest Ive ever met. Sometimes life is just toygh for some of these sweet ladies that we love so much..Totally agree on the live's of these girls. It's depressing as hell, however let me check this for a moment.
Time line sounds funny. The guy could have lost his job in the economy crash (or died). I know many girls who's guys lost their business / work last year. Which helps us who can still monger but the economy also ruined PI girls and Isaan income streams. I know two mongers who even asked if I was interested in taking up their girls for them.
I hope the guy wasn't trying to sponsor her for 200 a month, better then nothing I guess. At the same time if he thought he was sponsoring her and you were tapping her, and she was tapping others, then I guess I'm not feeling all that sorry.
Cuba Tourist
04-26-10, 23:14
Rampana, I think you are being unfriendly to one of the best assets of this site.
Maybe you should tell us what happened that made you so mad. You must have meet the girl who is 23 from Cebu. If she was not like her profile, then what could have possibly been so bad?
FreebieFan
04-27-10, 03:13
Ms Janyll Bequilla of Cebu.
"I want to meet a foreigner to help my all problems like money & love making "
Rampana, I think you are being unfriendly to one of the best assets of this site.That´s NOT the point.
I hear what you say.
Leave me with my point of view as I am leaving you with your point of view.
That´s NOT the point.
I hear what you say.
Leave me with my point of view as I am leaving you with your point of view.If you make a point of view public here, at least be prepared to defend your position. Other board members have been too kind, personally I think you are an [Deleted by Admin].
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That´s NOT the point.
I hear what you say.
Leave me with my point of view as I am leaving you with your point of view.Sorry you had a disappointing experience with one of the girls I have mentioned in the past and thanks to the several members who have written in support.
I think the key things to remember are.
1 The experience of one guy with a particular girl can only be in indication of the experience you might have because (a) your tastes may differ from mine and (b) the girl may well react and behave different with one guy than with another. That's life. If you are looking for product consistency go eat at McDonalds
2 For the girls who I have helped to write or improve their profiles I have tried my best to describe her and her situation as realistically as possible. Of course the end result tends to be something that looks more "intelligently written" than the usual "simple girl accept me for who I am blurb" and if you were looking for an intellectual equal then I agree it would be misleading,. However that is not really what the majority of guys who come to the phils are looking for.
3 If you would prefer to find girls that I or other guys have not met, then just avoid the ones I have mentioned, there's about 10 million to choose from so that shouldn't be a problem.
GregLondon
04-29-10, 03:05
Sorry for the confusion, Big Larry's post was actually from me GL, I let him use my laptop a couple of months ago and I guess his ISG log in details were saved by my backup browser.
Wicked Roger
04-29-10, 07:17
Sorry for the confusion, Big Larry's post was actually from me GL, I let him use my laptop a couple of months ago and I guess his ISG log in details were saved by my backup browser.
Rampana
Not sure why GL should bother with a reply and why am i? :)).
Your FR was out of order, based on a man (assume you are) of 16 posts, none of any real relevance, much complaining...and you have not got a PM function. When your information and FRs etc of relevance to this forum, and you show respect then maybe you will be taken seriously....
As for GL, he is a good guy, we have swapped notes and girls and he does his best to help girls who mainly have limited chances in life due to where they live etc....
I doubt if you have been to PI despite saying you met one of GL's DIA girls as if you had you would realise the poverty they live in/around, the optimism they have when they meet a 'white guy' and the disappointment when he turns out to be an asshole....
GL, like me, does what he can to help. I find work for the girls when I can (real work) and some happy to meet my friends as long as I think they are respectful, generous, kind and not a complete asshole....and I have ways to find out if you are the latter :D (in your case it is easy to spot :))
So suggest you now rethink your ISG strategy, come to PI, maye useful contributions before you criticise further. Do your homework, work the boards and meet girls, be disappointed, be surprised and then maybe you will be a useful contributor
Otherwise go back to the church you came from and shag the priest...or maybe he does that to you :D
As for GL, he is a good guy, we have swapped notes and girls and he does his best to help girls who mainly have limited chances in life due to where they live etc....
GL, like me, does what he can to help.......
This forum has been extremely helpful to me in many ways, and not the least being assistance from guys like WR, GL, Manta Ray, Lenience and others who go out of their way to help when they think they can.
I have had numerous PMs from these guys (unsolicited but gratefully received) with all manner of tips and advice, even cp numbers and introductions to follow up.
Because this happened to me then now I do the same for these and other guys too as a form of reciprocal payback. What we see published on the boards is just the tip of a quite large iceberg of "behind-the-scenes" fellowship and support.
That is what ISG is all about. May it long prosper and continue.
Guys like Rampana are just simply ungrateful, that's all.
I checked out GL's Angel on DIA and she is hot. He writes good reports and seems a generous guy who understands camraderie. Its because of guys like him that I have resumed posting (a bit).
Sadly, given the lack of any screening process, the board is still polluted by "members" (using the term loosely) like Rampana. Dude, if you a looking for virgins try cherryblossoms and avoid DIA. Better yet, in ANY town in the PI there is an Iglesia ni Cristo, usually bigger and nicer than the Jollibee. Go there and ask to attend services, they will warmly welcome you (proseltyzing is as prevalent as pregnancy in the PI).
Someone mentioned deaf girls as an antidote to nagging wife syndrome. Well there is one in Angeles named Judith who is quite the active freelancer (I've seen her ID). She loves sex and is VERY agreeable to most anything. Her eyes are SUPER expressive. VERY GFE but nasty too. Had a baby a few months back so not a hardbody. I mention her, and post her picture, because she will like the increase in business (: Many here who have been to AC my recognize her (she used to be a door girl at Atlantis but now works in a clothing shop)
Guys like Rampana are just simply ungrateful, that's all.That is again NOT the point. How dare you calling me ungrateful-
At WR:
Misconception: I have been to Phils. Around 12 times past 20 yrs and I am NOT a newbie in this. I know what I am talking about. No further comments on this point.
At GL:
Thank you for clarification. This post was addressed to YOU, so finally you give your statement for that. I was waiting for that and all other guys responses have been quite hurtful and bit a lot insulting for me.
It wasn't meant bugging YOU. I am European, maybe having a bit of different point of view on these things.
I just prefer looking for girls on my own and I don't doubt the intention of this board to do otherwise.
Although I am quite fluent in English language, it is rather difficult for me to read and understand all of the English written sometimes.
To say it in my mother tongue: "Nix für ungut, GL". This is meant as a kind of asking you forgiveness.
After receiving your reply, I want to end this fruitless discussion here now.
Ram
Otherwise go back to the church you came from and shag the priest...or maybe he does that to you :DThis again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.
GregLondon
04-30-10, 07:52
It's OK I think alot of the heat from this topic was generated through a "lost in translation" between German and English, and you got quite a bit of stick from the guys many of whom have tried one or two of the girls I mentioned and have generally I think had positive experiences. As I said before different guys have different tastes and one of the charms of tackling the semi pro scene is that it's very much about two way interaction. Unlike a bar girl who will get a roasting from the mamasan if the customer is not happy,the DIA girl is of course a free agent and sometimes the chemistry will work with a guy sometimes not. As WR has said it's all about trying it out and sometimes you are going to get very positive results sometimes disappointments.
There tends to be relatively little sharing of contact details on this site not least because there is a very high ratio of leechers extracting info and offering not much in return to valuable contributors. The other issue is that some guys use the referral as a way of getting a date with a girl who would not normally wish to date them. I just got a roasting from a girl who said that she went on date with a guy who said he was a buddy of mine but turned out to be an old Chinese guy with limited English who had no connection with me at all.
Many of the guys on the list are just dropping in for short trips to the PI and for people in such a position having details of DIA girls who have at least one satisfied guy can be very useful given the amount of time wasting that we all know can take place with girls who bring their Aunt or ladyboy pal, are "open minded about sex .... once we are married" etc etc.
Those who have been to the PI many times or have weeks to spare, will generally wish to generate their own list of contacts and are probably only interested in referrals regarding girls who have something special or unusual to offer.
GL
That is again NOT the point. How dare you calling me ungrateful-
At WR:
Misconception: I have been to Phils. Around 12 times past 20 yrs and I am NOT a newbie in this. I know what I am talking about. No further comments on this point.
At GL:
Thank you for clarification. This post was addressed to YOU, so finally you give your statement for that. I was waiting for that and all other guys responses have been quite hurtful and bit a lot insulting for me.
It wasn't meant bugging YOU. I am European, maybe having a bit of different point of view on these things.
I just prefer looking for girls on my own and I don't doubt the intention of this board to do otherwise.
Although I am quite fluent in English language, it is rather difficult for me to read and understand all of the English written sometimes.
To say it in my mother tongue: "Nix für ungut, GL". This is meant as a kind of asking you forgiveness.
After receiving your reply, I want to end this fruitless discussion here now.
Ram
this again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.
this again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.Rampana you presented yourself to this forum in all the wrong ways. No reports, no information, no nothing you just came in flaming in an opinionated manner which was way off-base with what this forum is about. With that being said one man opinions means nothing when measured against another. Now that is not an opinion.
Get some decent reports under your belt then go on a self righteous flaming campaign. One thing though flaming is against forum rules but I can’t imagine the forum architect thinking a bunch of third world sex scavengers were going to be nice to each other.
Wicked Roger
04-30-10, 10:08
It's OK I think alot of the heat from this topic was generated through a "lost in translation" between German and English, and you got quite a bit of stick from the guys many of whom have tried one or two of the girls I mentioned and have generally I think had positive experiences.
As WR has said it's all about trying it out and sometimes you are going to get very positive results sometimes disappointments.
There tends to be relatively little sharing of contact details on this site not least because there is a very high ratio of leechers extracting info and offering not much in return to valuable contributors. The other issue is that some guys use the referral as a way of getting a date with a girl who would not normally wish to date them. I just got a roasting from a girl who said that she went on date with a guy who said he was a buddy of mine but turned out to be an old Chinese guy with limited English who had no connection with me at all.
GL
Good point GL, there are so many lurkers and assholes who can ruin your reputation in a heart beat. Had same myself and is very bad.
But you and I both know how we do our best to weed out those types but we still don't succeed all the time....
I share with those I trust and if anyone lets me down the board will know as it is a useful forum for that information also
And guys, make useful contributions.....many posts but all asking for contacts or complaining etc is not what I call informative and no way you will ever get contacts..also play by the rules of the guy from whom you ask the info....if guys dont play by rules they dont get...if you do it works hence GL and can swap info and contacts with no worry
See you soon GL
Wicked Roger
04-30-10, 10:12
this again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.
LOL
Rampana....do us all a favout, post a FR (ie many) of useful info about PI and show us you know the place, the nuances of the country, the girls...and then we will take yolu seriously...
18 posts nothing of use...my good mate Fifty Fifty had around 50% RODs in his first 20 posts......and he get the contacts and respect
Try that for a change......but first you must visit PI...but you say you have - but of course there was no FR about the girl you said was hopeless etc..
so maybe you cam with girls only....but please post useful insights as a newbie.....12 times in 20 years and yet no insights....no FRs...sorry if you want to play in ISG best do better (as my teacher would say...well not about ISG of course :D)
GregLondon
05-01-10, 01:21
After 4 months in PI , I'm starting to think where next especially as the rainy season is approaching. It's many years since I went to Indonesia. the indo board doenst have the equivalent section and obviously 80%+ of the DIA girls are Phils but was curious as to whether people had had luck using DIA or other sites (which ones?) for Indonesia and what the differences in price/attitude/easy etc are?
Any insight gratefully received. GL
After 4 months in PI , I'm starting to think where next especially as the rainy season is approaching. It's many years since I went to Indonesia. the indo board doenst have the equivalent section and obviously 80%+ of the DIA girls are Phils but was curious as to whether people had had luck using DIA or other sites (which ones?) for Indonesia and what the differences in price/attitude/easy etc are?
Any insight gratefully received. GLThere's ton's of cheap pussy on tap in Indonesia. Really no need to go on dating sites. Read up on the Indon board.
Tally Ho!
AV
WestCoast1
05-01-10, 19:25
After 4 months in PI , I'm starting to think where next especially as the rainy season is approaching. It's many years since I went to Indonesia. the indo board doenst have the equivalent section and obviously 80%+ of the DIA girls are Phils but was curious as to whether people had had luck using DIA or other sites (which ones?) for Indonesia and what the differences in price/attitude/easy etc are?
Any insight gratefully received. GLGl,
Yes read the indo part of the board. The difference between PI and Indo is as follows (kinda). Girls in PI are kind of unique. They will date most any foreigner (some won't like black men, however). They are happy to hold a kano's hand who is 3x her age.
You won't see any 21-yr-old indogirls holding hands in a mall with 55-yr-old bule, like you will in phils. They stick closer to their own age. However, as Amavida said, there is plenty of cheap labor there (called ayam, or cewek). To the south in Jakarta are several bars in the 'Block M' shopping area, all clustered in a street called Jalan Falatahan, like LA Cafe. In the center and north are hotels with ayam bars, with a mix of FL and normal gals in for partying most nights (tell the taxi driver CJ's, or BATS). There are huge discos (ie, Stadium) that get going about 11pm most nights, filled with the same mix. There are massage parlours along the north (kota) area. And there are places like fishbowls along the northeast (Manga Besar), where you go and choose a girl, and get to use their 'massage' room for a fee.
All of this is different than phils. In phils its easy to go to LA cafe or AC for talent. Or you can Date In Asia the phils gals and get a regular gf thru chat over a month or two. Indonesian girls are a bit different, they are less likely to want to be one of your 'chatmates for meet-up'. Its the largest muslim country on earth (although some girls are catolic). Easier to shoot for ayam in the bars. Another alternative for indo girls is Adult Friend Finder dot com. Any indo girl you see there is looking to meet up.
Rampana, post something like this one, with information the other gents can use. Or tell about your recent trip. It will get more respect.
GregLondon
05-02-10, 12:21
Gl,
Yes read the indo part of the board. The difference between PI and Indo is as follows (kinda). Girls in PI are kind of unique. They will date most any foreigner (some won't like black men, however). They are happy to hold a kano's hand who is 3x her age.
You won't see any 21-yr-old indogirls holding hands in a mall with 55-yr-old bule, like you will in phils. They stick closer to their own age. However, as Amavida said, there is plenty of cheap labor there (called ayam, or cewek). To the south in Jakarta are several bars in the 'Block M' shopping area, all clustered in a street called Jalan Falatahan, like LA Cafe. In the center and north are hotels with ayam bars, with a mix of FL and normal gals in for partying most nights (tell the taxi driver CJ's, or BATS). There are huge discos (ie, Stadium) that get going about 11pm most nights, filled with the same mix. There are massage parlours along the north (kota) area. And there are places like fishbowls along the northeast (Manga Besar), where you go and choose a girl, and get to use their 'massage' room for a fee.
All of this is different than phils. In phils its easy to go to LA cafe or AC for talent. Or you can Date In Asia the phils gals and get a regular gf thru chat over a month or two. Indonesian girls are a bit different, they are less likely to want to be one of your 'chatmates for meet-up'. Its the largest muslim country on earth (although some girls are catolic). Easier to shoot for ayam in the bars. Another alternative for indo girls is Adult Friend Finder dot com. Any indo girl you see there is looking to meet up.
Rampana, post something like this one, with information the other gents can use. Or tell about your recent trip. It will get more respect.
Thanks WC that's a very useful summary. You are right Phils is a rather unique place in terms of the ability of 50-60 year old guys to get college girls to hang around as girlfriends. I'm mid 40s and beginning to struggle to get this sort of experience in destinations such as Colombia and China, anyone happen to know of any other countries comparable to PI in this respect?
Member #4351
05-02-10, 13:15
Unfortunately things are changing. In Latin American dating sites, the age ranges the girls put on their profiles are constantly getting lower. Some 10 years ago, when dating sites first started, Colombia and Peru were ALMOST as good as the Philippines. Now forget it. I haven't even bothered to join one in years. All the young guys in the States and Europe discovered the sites and things went down the tubes.
Also I hate to say it, but when I compare last year and this year, I see that many of the cuter girls' FH profiles which were almost all "from 18-80" are now also dropping in age. There are even some with 25 as an upper limit.
But if the prohibition of morning after pill sales stays constant, then we should still have some good years left given young cutie demographics.
GregLondon
05-02-10, 13:40
I don't know whether El Papa is to be lambasted for helping 80m people to continue to live in squalor or congratulated on a cunning plan to supply the order generation with young and nubile pussy.
I too am nervous about how long the party can last in RP. Given the brewing violence in Thailand aren't some of the hordes that historically haven't looked past Thailand increasingly going to look at RP as an alternative. Given the attractions of RP I'm really surprised it hasn't emerged as a destination for fun loving young European guys.
Unfortunately things are changing. In Latin American dating sites, the age ranges the girls put on their profiles are constantly getting lower. Some 10 years ago, when dating sites first started, Colombia and Peru were ALMOST as good as the Philippines. Now forget it. I haven't even bothered to join one in years. All the young guys in the States and Europe discovered the sites and things went down the tubes.
Also I hate to say it, but when I compare last year and this year, I see that many of the cuter girls' FH profiles which were almost all "from 18-80" are now also dropping in age. There are even some with 25 as an upper limit.
But if the prohibition of morning after pill sales stays constant, then we should still have some good years left given young cutie demographics.
Unfortunately things are changing. In Latin American dating sites, the age ranges the girls put on their profiles are constantly getting lower. Some 10 years ago, when dating sites first started, Colombia and Peru were ALMOST as good as the Philippines. Now forget it. I haven't even bothered to join one in years. All the young guys in the States and Europe discovered the sites and things went down the tubes.
Also I hate to say it, but when I compare last year and this year, I see that many of the cuter girls' FH profiles which were almost all "from 18-80" are now also dropping in age. There are even some with 25 as an upper limit.
But if the prohibition of morning after pill sales stays constant, then we should still have some good years left given young cutie demographics.
Bad girls+ money = Good fuck
Good girls+ Romance= Good fuck
Simple as that
Thanks WC that's a very useful summary. You are right Phils is a rather unique place in terms of the ability of 50-60 year old guys to get college girls to hang around as girlfriends. I'm mid 40s and beginning to struggle to get this sort of experience in destinations such as Colombia and China, anyone happen to know of any other countries comparable to PI in this respect?
Do not about Colombia much. But In China age difference does not mean much . You can have young GF as long as you take care of them. So many Businessmen ( Mostly ethnic Chinese) have young very pretty GF. Unique thing about China is they do not want childeren readily like Phi. I personally know some businessmen friends of mine who are Hong Kong Chinese having young 20 something girls as GF. Many a times we all party together. They are even willing to introduce their friends. Caveat is you should be ready to swill as much as 10,000RMB a month for expenses. Not cheap like PHI. In my experience Chinese girls are more devoted to you unlike Phi girls. In other words they are unlikely to fool around behind your back. They may go with their friends drinking and dancing but maybe not pick up anybody for sex.
I had a sweet young Gf 19 years old from Hubei who was such a darling. Took her to lot of places and she had no qualms about being with a older foreigner. I had to get rid of her because she was making grand future plans for me and her.
Member #4351
05-02-10, 15:11
Yeah, but check Chinese demographics. How many girls to how many men? Given the shortage of females there are going to be a lot of pissed off guys in that country. Look how they are going crazy and stabbing and hammering little kids in school rooms.
In response to GL's post, I disagree with Westcoast about ease of older bule getting hot young cewek. LOTS of Jakarta expats have young hotties on their arm, they just don't take them to Top Gun etc. (check the food court at Pasaraya, for example). In Kota LOADS of Old Chinese have young hotties they sponsor; IMHO many of them would prefer a bule BF but are scared because of language issues, know how to meet them etc. Remember, anti Chinese sentiment is VERY strong in Indonesia (more than Islam inspired anti americanism). Examples are the fact that Glodok gets burned down every few years by anti Chinese mobs run amok and Indonesian law still prohibits important of anything written in Chinese characters.
Outside Jakarta is even better. The Indo lovers will send me hate messages for exposing the secret but too bad; I don't want all the Thailovers fleeing to the PI when the shit really hits the fan in Krung Thep! Let them spread out to different places. Indonesia is HUGE, it aint just Jawa.
The big difference (and forget Islam, it aint an issue!) is language. WAY less Indonesian girls can read or write English. The key here is that Bahasa is super simple to learn, the easiest, most logical language ever. Guys spend YEARS trying to learn tonal languages like Thai or Vietnamese yet in a month they could have Bahasa down. Buy an alfalink electronic translator for $25 or so and a Bahasa dictionary. Once you meet girls there play with them teaching them English and them teaching you some Bahasa. They love it and you'll quickly get to where you can converse in Bahasa.
David's post explains succinctly why I no longer go to South America (although I am MUCH younger than he is LOL!) If I DID return it would be to visit him, and his awesome stable of babes in Lima, rather than post invasion Colombia (my former stomping grounds). While I think the PI is tops, Indonesia is not that far behind in second place. With the dry season begininng there and the wet season already under way in the PI, coupled with possible post election unrest (especially if GMA tries to stay in office p[ast June 30), not a bad time for Indonesia at all.
GregLondon
05-04-10, 03:32
In response to GL's post, I disagree with Westcoast about ease of older bule getting hot young cewek. LOTS of Jakarta expats have young hotties on their arm, they just don't take them to Top Gun etc. (check the food court at Pasaraya, for example). In Kota LOADS of Old Chinese have young hotties they sponsor; IMHO many of them would prefer a bule BF but are scared because of language issues, know how to meet them etc. Remember, anti Chinese sentiment is VERY strong in Indonesia (more than Islam inspired anti americanism). Examples are the fact that Glodok gets burned down every few years by anti Chinese mobs run amok and Indonesian law still prohibits important of anything written in Chinese characters.
Outside Jakarta is even better. The Indo lovers will send me hate messages for exposing the secret but too bad; I don't want all the Thailovers fleeing to the PI when the shit really hits the fan in Krung Thep! Let them spread out to different places. Indonesia is HUGE, it aint just Jawa.
The big difference (and forget Islam, it aint an issue!) is language. WAY less Indonesian girls can read or write English. The key here is that Bahasa is super simple to learn, the easiest, most logical language ever. Guys spend YEARS trying to learn tonal languages like Thai or Vietnamese yet in a month they could have Bahasa down. Buy an alfalink electronic translator for $25 or so and a Bahasa dictionary. Once you meet girls there play with them teaching them English and them teaching you some Bahasa. They love it and you'll quickly get to where you can converse in Bahasa.
David's post explains succinctly why I no longer go to South America (although I am MUCH younger than he is LOL!) If I DID return it would be to visit him, and his awesome stable of babes in Lima, rather than post invasion Colombia (my former stomping grounds). While I think the PI is tops, Indonesia is not that far behind in second place. With the dry season begininng there and the wet season already under way in the PI, coupled with possible post election unrest (especially if GMA tries to stay in office p[ast June 30), not a bad time for Indonesia at all.
Useful feedback Surfer and others. The Indo boards seem to suggest that massage and bar girls are the way to go in Indonesia. Having been in PI for a while I've gotten used to non professionals - more from an attitude and fun perspective rather than a cost perspective which tends to be swings and roundabouts. Do you have some useful tips for tackling the non pro scene in Indo?
GregLondon
05-04-10, 03:42
To date I've focussed on the free dating sites such as DIA and Tagged. These work fine in more populous and liberated areas such as Cebu and Manila but in less populous and more conservative areas such as here in Palawan one runs out of targets after a while.
I tried the CB 72 hours intro offer (actually they just gave me 24 hours of free service. My initial experience was quite positive. I liked the more pics than DIA feature and the ability to search by location age and weight. generated a few interesting contacts but now they have downgraded me to a non full account.
Interested in views as to whether it is worth the subscription (given the existence of free alternatives), whether there are other fee or free sites worth trying (eg what has people's experience with people.com been? 0 what is the best tactic to get sojething out of CS if I dont upgraded to full membership?
CB has pros and cons but, on balance, the answer is yes its worth it. They are much stricter about weeding out ladyboys and scammers and the like, plus their site has a an ip log that shows you what country the person with whom you are chatting is located. It also allows 5 pictures per member to DIA's 1.
Facebook is HUGE in Indonesia. TONS of sweet non pros, can get them anywhere just like the PI. The key, and the thing that separates the men from the boys, is how much Bahasa you can pick up because English is VERY limited outside very high end places and the bule ghetto in Block M (South Jakarta).
Some areas are more fertile hunting grounds than others, just like the PI. Central Java is more Islamic so better to focus on East (Surabaya) or West (Jakarta). Sumatra is loaded with poor, isolated provinces just loaded with sweet things intrigued by the idea of a bule BF. You DO have to be sensitive to local cultre, dress modestly , avoid public consumption of alcohol etc. Some risks but great rewards for the intrepid.
FreebieFan
05-04-10, 06:47
Useful feedback Surfer and others. The Indo boards seem to suggest that massage and bar girls are the way to go in Indonesia. Having been in PI for a while I've gotten used to non professionals. More from an attitude and fun perspective rather than a cost perspective which tends to be swings and roundabouts. Do you have some useful tips for tackling the non pro scene in Indo?I probably have 3-4 sweet non pros who I can see anytime in Jakarta. I have one or two in Surabaya also but its harder to get there with any degree of frequency.
Id says its probably similar to everyone elses viewpoint. Start on DIA or Tagged or FB, move to YM, suggest a meet and see what happens. On my last Jakarta trip I had 4 in 4 nights and all relatively free (sure, you invite a girl out, of course theres dinner and drinks involved). But the girls are sweet and in 5 years of visiting there I think I've only had one knockback.
Hardly ever go to Blok M. Seems easy enough to meet them in normal settings.
One of my ex regulars has since married a bule. But has saidshes still free to meet me, except can't do overnight anymore.
I took a 22 year old student with me on a Singapore trip last week that was outstanding.
Many Indonesians visit KL (where I mainly live) often, nd I'm often gettting names, hellos and phone numbers on DIA and often these ladies are happy with some whiteboy company, although mostly they are only in the less glamourous hotels.
All in all Indonesia is quite a happy hunting ground totally on par with Philippines.
I have noticed in the last year that most of the Pinays are migrating from Friendster to Facebook. The part are very much dislike about the social sites like these are that all off your friends can see each other. For example you will have one girl leave a comment on one of your pictures like ' oh I had so much fun on our trip to Boracay' Now every girl and every girl's family members know you spent a week banging another Pinay when you told her you were out of the country.
I have used CB for the last few years before and during my annual trips. It is by far the best organized and have the least scamers and very few lady-boys. Most of the scamers are deleted before I even read them because other members have reported them. The also now have let you write 3 form letters that you can send out to the girls, instead of having to write a custom note to each of the girls. On DIA they don't allow you to copy and paste emails to the girls. I also like how many search options that CB offers, so you can find your Target Audience much faster and not waste your time on girls who don't meet your requirements.
My 2nd choice would be Filipina Heart. It is simmilar to Cherry Blossoms and cost about the same, $25 a month.
DIA is good if you don't want to spend any money and don't mind sorting thru all the lady boys and scammers. Just be sure to go online during the day, PI local time. If you are looking for hooker or dudes, go on late night PI time.
For me $25 for a month of CB or FH is well worth the money as it eleminates most of the basement boys or bored men who are just taking away the girls time from me.
GregLondon
05-04-10, 11:14
CB has pros and cons but, on balance, the answer is yes its worth it. They are much stricter about weeding out ladyboys and scammers and the like, plus their site has a an ip log that shows you what country the person with whom you are chatting is located. It also allows 5 pictures per member to DIA's 1.
Facebook is HUGE in Indonesia. TONS of sweet non pros, can get them anywhere just like the PI. The key, and the thing that separates the men from the boys, is how much Bahasa you can pick up because English is VERY limited outside very high end places and the bule ghetto in Block M (South Jakarta).
Some areas are more fertile hunting grounds than others, just like the PI. Central Java is more Islamic so better to focus on East (Surabaya) or West (Jakarta). Sumatra is loaded with poor, isolated provinces just loaded with sweet things intrigued by the idea of a bule BF. You DO have to be sensitive to local cultre, dress modestly , avoid public consumption of alcohol etc. Some risks but great rewards for the intrepid.
FB is also big here in Phils now. Friendster is all but dead now. I've not really sussed a way to generate good leads through itas yet, have you had luck with it in Indonesia Surfer? if so hav e you got a technique that you might share with the boys?
GregLondon
05-04-10, 11:27
Has anyone got a smart methodology for syncing phone numbers written to yahoo messenger with a not very sophisticated cell phone (ie no on board syncing capabilities).
i have loads of Cell nos collected and saved in YM contacts. I also have alot stored on my phone . the trouble is my more expensive phone was stolen (occupational hazard of being in phils) so I now have acheapish local one. (Cherry mobile BTW good for dual SIM , but poor battery life (though you can substitute a genuine nokia battery. And slightly frustrating Chinese written Op system)
FreebieFan
05-05-10, 01:17
And some won't date white men especially after some white men would have them travel for hours on a hot bus from the province only to reward them with a pot belly, SOGO, a sore pussy and old used cell phone.Or maybe they'd love some uneducated black guy, covered in cheap clunky imitation jewellery who dresses like a loser, has a broken down car, and stays in a squalid subdivision.
Yeah he sounds like a real catch. Gee ladies, what are you waiting for?
Member #3428
05-05-10, 04:44
FB is also big here in Phils now.Just a side note. If you get a message from a DIA chick if you have girls and they are on FaceBook. You might want to check out your other girls facebook page to see if any of them are friends.
I recently had a girl send me a message on DIA asking if I wanted to meet up for a discrete short time. I thought something was funny and damned if she isn't on the Mrs. Manila's facebook page as a friend. As I've recently been busted for nailing other girls while the Mrs. Was in final exams and am kind of in the dog house a little, I got a little lucky here. (Yeah I'm a chicken shit but Mrs. Manila has got great stamina and good body for me who is open for everything and I mean everything so I want to keep her for a while).
Being the innocent person I am I sent a message back to this DIA girl and told her how much I appreciate the message but I have a GF and that she is welcome to come join us for a 3 some.
Cunning Stunt
05-05-10, 10:06
Or maybe they'd love some uneducated black guy, covered in cheap clunky imitation jewellery who dresses like a loser, has a broken down car, and stays in a squalid subdivision.
Yeah he sounds like a real catch. Gee ladies, what are you waiting for?
Hey FF, you forgot the photo!!
Facebook can be dangerous in many ways as it creates an evidence trail. Part of what they do on it is play this farming videogame where your friends are neighbors and they build these cyber worlds that aids in escapism. It is almost a cult there.
Unlike friendster, there is no feature listing who viewed your profile so through Mrs Surfers account I can find loads of hotties but, alas, must just look. Some examples of Filipinas on FB
I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.
Chica Finder2
05-06-10, 07:57
I put a profile on CB, man I have never received so many winks and emails. I assume most of the women are looking for a green card and better life. But being a monger, I,m looking for puss. My fellow mongers care to expand on your Cherry Blossom hookups.
GregLondon
05-06-10, 07:58
I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.
If thats what you are looking for go for the ones with the crap photos. Some of these are really cute in reality but they have never met a foreign guy with a good camera to take pics of them. What tends to happen is that the guys go for the girls with great sexy pix then tell them off for having sexy pics which attract other guys.
Lostwodpun
05-06-10, 14:28
Lorena 2225693 from FH is just a freak. Not great to look at but puts on a hell of a webcam show. It's free and she does it 3-4 times a day. and I thought I was a horney dog.
Wicked Roger
05-06-10, 19:49
If thats what you are looking for go for the ones with the crap photos. Some of these are really cute in reality but they have never met a foreign guy with a good camera to take pics of them. What tends to happen is that the guys go for the girls with great sexy pix then tell them off for having sexy pics which attract other guys.
And the guys who tell the the girls off are mainly red necks with limited chance of seeing a pinay in the flesh but think they own them based on a YM chat....sad
As GL says sometimes the bland pics of girls can be real winners. And yes many have had a foreign f**k buddy...some maybe my ex or GL's ex as we have had a lot of pinay f**k buddies :D
Seriously the very sexy pictures.....either false or ladyboy on many occasions...rare I find it is the same girl (eg she has added 10+kilos, it was taken 15 years ago..) Did find one on DIA who I called Miss Stunner..and Good Enough met her and was suitably impressed but a rare find, my current fav from Cebu is another in that category as well and GL has met her
Happy hunting
I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.
Do you mean fucked over by a foreigner:) I have met over 50 DIA in person and I would say 90% have never met with a foreigner.
You can also just click on the profiles that say new, but some of the girls will delete and repost their profile so it will say new. I had one girl that I met on DIA and her profile would say new for six months and I know it was the same profile because she was in my saved and I didn't see a double. I don't know how she accomplished that.
Robb
Long story, short version:)
Just for shits and giggles I posted on Craigslist under causal for Cebu three months ago. I had maybe 10 hits and I picked a 22 year old student to meet. We met at SM and had coffee and she told me her story. She had a foreigner bf for 8 months and he had paid her school in full and she tutored foreign students to make spending money. I had a prior engagement so the meeting lasted one hour. I gave her taxi money for her time and went to kiss her and she laid a DFK on me;) and that got me thinking with the little head. I haven't decided if I would see her again.
Next day she text me that she wanted to come to my hotel and I told her that I was going to take a nap and she replied that she wanted to take a nap also, in the AC:D
She showed up in a wife beater and tight short shorts:) In less then five minutes in the room we were fucking like it was our last fuck. We took a nap and she had a tutor class at 4 pm and had to go. I gave her 1000P for her taxi, load..i.e. (Pay them to leave)
The next week we are YMing and she is crying on the cam...I am like okay here comes the drama. She told me that she felt like a prostitute because she had sex for money???
I went back to Cebu the next week and took her to lunch with 6 other friends, had a great time and as were leaving she said that she wanted to go to the hotel. I told her sorry, but I would again give her money, as I told her before that I didn't want or need a GF/wife. She said no way, so I said no go. One minute later she said OK....
I left Cebu and 5 days later she text me that all the sudden her school was asking 8000P and she had the money, but she couldn't go home for her baby's birthday. She didn't ask for any help and I didn't offer any, but so much for not being a prostitute:)
Robb
Member #4351
05-07-10, 03:15
Really, if a sticky could be put up on this thread, it should read: "ALWAYS SEE THEM ON WEBCAM BEFORE ARRANGING A MEETING" None of the girls that I have met in the last three days from DIA and FH look remotely like their photos.
And now when I tell other girls I would like to please see them for a minute or two on webcam WITH their clothes on to verify their photo, (so as not to waste any more time on Jollibee Chubbies or girls without teeth), they disappear. Interesting.
I find it really annoying when filipinas send me text. This one taken from DIA
N my lyf,, i never tried 2 impress som1 4 dem 2 lyk me coz wen i do,, i hav 2 keep dat image 4 d res
Facebook can be dangerous in many ways as it creates an evidence trail. Part of what they do on it is play this farming videogame where your friends are neighbors and they build these cyber worlds that aids in escapism. It is almost a cult there.
Unlike friendster, there is no feature listing who viewed your profile so through Mrs Surfers account I can find loads of hotties but, alas, must just look. Some examples of Filipinas on FBDo not not under any circumstances put any personally identifiable info on Facebook!
The owners of that website sell your info all over the place & even if you close your account the pics/words are kept and continue to show up in search engine results for fucking years later!!
You will be soooooo sorry!
AV
I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.I much prefer ...ahem.. low mileage girls also.
Lived here 5 years or so, gotta tell you in my experience virtually all Pinays on the internet are players & have been proven to me time & again to be liars. They all have the 'good girl' act going, most however will (and have) prostitute(d) themselves in a heartbeat.
Some of them really push your buttons but nothing sober's you up like looking in her email/txt messages & seeing all the meetings with foreigners pre & post. "I cant wait to meet you", "I miss you so much" etc etc.
Same words, different guy's - and you are one of them....
Besides the point of foreigner's getting at them, just remember most of them have quite a history with the local lad's predating their internet foray's which you will not be privy to until quite some time _after_ you have set up shop with them.
Recently I was shagging a girl from North Luzon, I came to know about & meet her blushing 17 year old 'never been touched, never been kissed' cousin. This girl got a temporary job in one of my business's so I got to see the real truth first hand.
She got on the internet (CB) with the help of an older cousin. Within days of membership , at the grand old age of 17 she gets snapped up by a 59 year old guy from Chicago (Hi Chuck!). Chucky boy can't wait to get his end in, proposes marriage within 48 hours of contacting her & starts sending money for the wedding preparations. Im sitting over dinner talking & laughing about this with my GF. Both she & I can't believe any one would be that stupid.
Any how to cut a long story short Chucky boy hauls ass to the PI within 2 weeks for the wedding, on the wedding night in the hotel there is a big commotion - she's bailed up on giving chucky boy his conjugal rights!!
He apparently tried to press the issue & she rang an ambulance.
Chucky boy is screaming blue murder to me, over & over again.
I get sick of hearing his heart rending story of viagra gone wrong & eventually put a stop to it buy telling him straight - "you're bloody lucky she did'nt ring the cops mate!"
Chucky boy can't compute this so I lay it out in braille - "Mate! She's 17 for christ's sakes!" "She could have you slung in a filthy jail sell for a long time with a a very large payola as your only way out". He had'nt bothered to check that being in a bed with a girl before the age of 18 was a slight problem in this country...
I advised him to claim an immediate annulment based on not receiving his conjugal rights, not to breathe a word about her age & get the fuck back to Chicago ASAP which he did. The family extracted money from him before he left BTW.
But you know the real kicker?
All the while _before_he_arrived_ our blushing, shy little 17 year old was riding pinoy cocks all over town with her new found wealth courtesy of the wedding preparations.
People call me cynical but I tell you these Pinay's are born actress's.
You have to know them (and their friends/relatives) a long time before you can see the real person behind the mask they show you.
When you meet a Pinay from the dating sites for the first time & she is shy/blushing it means squat. They have this act down pat.
AV
I put a profile on CB, man I have never received so many winks and emails. I assume most of the women are looking for a green card and better life. But being a monger, I,m looking for puss. My fellow mongers care to expand on your Cherry Blossom hookups.They are all looking for MONEY & a ticket out in that order.
If you dont want a wife dont fuck about on CB pretending to.
eg, keep your profile on CB simple and to the point - Im nice, well mannered & have money and looking for fun.
Don't be to direct or you will scare many of them off - many have this 'good girl' thing in their heads despite their agenda. Just keep it simple & non threatening/enticing.
There's a little bit of subtllety to respect in these asian cultures (but not too much).
AV
WestCoast1
05-08-10, 15:26
I much prefer ...ahem.. low mileage girls also.
Lived here 5 years or so, gotta tell you in my experience virtually all Pinays on the internet are players & have been proven to me time & again to be liars. They all have the 'good girl' act going, most however will (and have) prostitute(d) themselves in a heartbeat.
Some of them really push your buttons but nothing sober's you up like looking in her email/txt messages & seeing all the meetings with foreigners pre & post. "I cant wait to meet you", "I miss you so much" etc etc.
Same words, different guy's - and you are one of them....
Besides the point of foreigner's getting at them, just remember most of them have quite a history with the local lad's predating their internet foray's which you will not be privy to until quite some time _after_ you have set up shop with them.
People call me cynical but I tell you these Pinay's are born actress's.
You have to know them (and their friends/relatives) a long time before you can see the real person behind the mask they show you.
When you meet a Pinay from the dating sites for the first time & she is shy/blushing it means squat. They have this act down pat.
AVAV, concur with everything you said. These things of having multiple bf's and drama queens seems to be particular to filipinas. Lots of nice girls out there I'm sure. Trust one? Nahhhhhhhhhhhh.
Do not not under any circumstances put any personally identifiable info on Facebook!
Yes I have a dummied up account just to check profiles and pics!
Good advise and here are some more reasons:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20004511-83.html
Facebook can be dangerous in many ways as it creates an evidence trail. Part of what they do on it is play this farming videogame where your friends are neighbors and they build these cyber worlds that aids in escapism. It is almost a cult there.
Many Filipinas, especiallly the ones from the provinces are addicted to FarmVille. They dream of having their own farm.
Cunning Stunt
05-09-10, 16:00
Hahahaha – get a load of this ad on CL recently. Times must be getting real hard in the good old US of A. Know that the peso is strong at the moment but this is ridiculous:D.
Hi Gentleman, This is the story I am coming to Manila with my master but he is leaving me in Manila for a month to earn my money and have a little vacation. He will be gone to the province to see his wife and I have a big thing for pinoy small dicks but hot bodies. I also amd available for gang bangs and 3 somes so if your pinay wife needs to learn how to please a lady then I am the best teacher.
Needledick needed? – now where has X Man got to?;)
Black American men and women and men are the same. They will fuck anything. The men will fuck anything that moves and the women will fuck anything that has money.
LexLuther
Hahahaha – get a load of this ad on CL recently. Times must be getting real hard in the good old US of A. Know that the peso is strong at the moment but this is ridiculous:D.
Needledick needed? – now where has X Man got to?;)
I saw this ad last week and I was thinking WTF???:)
Do not not under any circumstances put any personally identifiable info on Facebook!
The owners of that website sell your info all over the place & even if you close your account the pics/words are kept and continue to show up in search engine results for fucking years later!!
You will be soooooo sorry!
AV
Last Saturday I called my son in Texas and he tells me that HE got a message from a girl in the Philippines asking me to call :eek: She saw a picture on his facebook of me and him. His name is same as mine, Jr.
I called and it is a Filipina that I dated in Japan five years ago and now she is back in the Philippines and she wants to see me again:D She knew that I was here and someone (neighbor) stole her bag 2 years ago with everything (passport, cash, cell) and she lost my number.
Robb
Black American men and women and men are the same. They will fuck anything. The men will fuck anything that moves and the women will fuck anything that has money.
LexLuther
racism should not be welcomed on the board.
racism should not be welcomed on the board.I agree,this board has no place for racial stereotyping. Guys lets just stick to sharing information about the ladies.
I find it really annoying when filipinas send me text. This one taken from DIAHilarious.
These young pinay can be so lazy with their communication.
Cunning Stunt
05-11-10, 10:10
I agree,this board has no place for racial stereotyping. Guys lets just stick to sharing information about the ladies.
Agree, but some members nary mention the main topic that is on the mind of most red blooded anglo saxons here. The forums are instead seen as a platform for warped anti-white, gerontophobic, misogynist, anti-CS/FF views with never a word about the pussy he has possibly screwed (maybe this is the problem – not getting enough fanny and is green with envy whilst older, white punters such as Freebie Fan and Wicked Roger (and moi) are obviously enjoying themselves and knee deep in lovely free, brown gash).
But one mention of suspected or implied racism and he is up barking like a rabid Pavlov pooch. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Good to see that one black member (pun or insult unintended) has renamed himself (for the umpteenth time) after a good, white Lancashire cricketer of the fifties and sixeties. Excellent taste even if completely unintended. Freebie, as a cricket fan, will be so pleased even though the player in question hailed from the wrong side of the Pennines.
This thread is about Chat Fun and Pen Pals.
Let's keep to the topic.
This post appeared on my DIA today. I have edited out the less interesting stuff LOL
My Brain is Bigger Than My Tits
Warning!:
My name is "Anne" NOT HONEY, SWEETY, BABY, BABE, MY PRINCESS,, DEAR, LOVE, ETC, ETC ETC....
IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN DONT SEND ME MESSAGE AND DONT PUSH YOUR LUCK.....AND STOP SAYING YOU'RE HOT BABE..........OF COURSE IM HOT ………
I dont wanna meet any person who is a sex tourist..humping from countries to countries just to fuck around ...
If i dont answer your question...it means i find it too stupid to answer
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy prohibiting reports containing any references to any persons under the age of 18. This restriction includes references in the form of code words like "very young" and "young girls". Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.
Racism is not tolerated on ISG unless it's directed at blacks and other people of color. For years I couldn't quite figure out why until I had the displeasure of gathering some "inside" information.
This Lex is an educated man, white as I suspect a great deal of ISG members are and he uses that education to post some things like this.
And to think a Black American family is sitting in the White House while other guys on a forum discussing where they score some 500 Peso third world pussy.
Better quit my high profile job and go back to college so I can join the "educated ranks".
PS: Thanks Thai Fun this great post was up here all day and not one word from the upstanding citizens here.
PPS: I don't understand anti-white racism from guys who only have sex with non-Anglo-Saxon (white) women. Would someone please explain this? It's so comical, hypocritical I find it baffling. I hang out with and have fucked women of all colors. If she is hot or has a cool personality makes no difference.
You're welcome. We log on at different times due to different time zones. So dont make too much out of seemingly late reactions. It might just be due to such circumstances.
I dont see any reason to take such sick remarks as an occasion to lament about other issues.
The remark by that person was plain racist, wrong, and totally unacceptable (at least to me).
It has not been deleted which is disturbing to me.
That some remarks about women in RP are way below the line, no need to talk about it.
FreebieFan
05-12-10, 09:28
But one mention of suspected or implied racism and he is up barking like a rabid Pavlov pooch. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Good to see that one black member (pun or insult unintended) has renamed himself (for the umpteenth time) after a good, white Lancashire cricketer of the fifties and sixeties. Excellent taste even if completely unintended. Freebie, as a cricket fan, will be so pleased even though the player in question hailed from the wrong side of the Pennines.Well CS as you know, when we cant sort out which county is best we resort to the fact that we are all "Northerners" lol.
I guess being called a "European pisswallower is racist against all Europeans but whats an interesting observation is that we dont take umbrage. We dont need to. Instead we take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
( PS for the young lads here who dont understand that, it means we make fun instead of getting upset. Nothing to do with any urinary acts lol.)
Starchild2012
05-12-10, 16:03
Black American men and women and men are the same. They will fuck anything. The men will fuck anything that moves and the women will fuck anything that has money.
LexLuther
WOW..Where did you get that info...Did you move and got fcuked by the blacks? :). Please confirm. We only take personal experience as a credible source of info on ISG.
Did you time travel from the 60's, you have around 200 posts, so you are obviously not new here......i just don't understand why some folks have issues thinking a bit more deeper than a persons skin.
I'm from India, Indians are racist also and i would say Asians are too, but the thing is, they have learned to move on to the next thing, once they know you, they get better and drop the stereotype. The experience in Asia with regards to skin never gets worse only gets better...and im saying this with my personal experience..if you read my old posts.
Its been more than 100 plus years that we keep hearing white vs black thing .....can't you guys just give up and MOVE ON to something new, something different or if you want go with something much worse...don't you guys get bored holding onto same black vs white debate..its sick
GoodEnough
05-12-10, 16:17
Unfortunately, knee jerk racists will, I'm afraid always be with us. Some people just love to hate. Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them. The only place I've been in the world where I never ran into racism was sub-Saharan Africa, where I worked in 14 countries and never once experienced it even by innuendo.
GE
WOW..Where did you get that info...Did you move and got fcuked by the blacks? :). Please confirm. We only take personal experience as a credible source of info on ISG.
Did you time travel from the 60's, you have around 200 posts, so you are obviously not new here......i just don't understand why some folks have issues thinking a bit more deeper than a persons skin.
I'm from India, Indians are racist also and i would say Asians are too, but the thing is, they have learned to move on to the next thing, once they know you, they get better and drop the stereotype. The experience in Asia with regards to skin never gets worse only gets better...and im saying this with my personal experience..if you read my old posts.
Its been more than 100 plus years that we keep hearing white vs black thing .....can't you guys just give up and MOVE ON to something new, something different or if you want go with something much worse...don't you guys get bored holding onto same black vs white debate..its sick
I would say that maybe 1% of the girls using DIA are looking for real love and not thinking about money.
Like many others here, I've been using DIA and have had contact with hundreds of girls and not one has shown any real romantic interest (I'm not bad looking). It seems they aren't really interested unless you are already in their country. If you can meet them now, they're interested.come meet me, I'll tour you, you spend money on me.
That being said this is a mongering website, not a "true love" site. Hehe. Just thought I'd offer my 2 cents.
Starchild2012
05-12-10, 17:11
Unfortunately, knee jerk racists will, I'm afraid always be with us. Some people just love to hate. Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them. The only place I've been in the world where I never ran into racism was sub-Saharan Africa, where I worked in 14 countries and never once experienced it even by innuendo.
GE
Very well said GE.....anyways, i will be slowly dropping off from ISG radar for sometime...need to get my battery recharged :) good luck
I always though innuendo was Italian for sex :)
.....can't you guys just give up and MOVE ON to something new, something different or if you want go with something much worse
Well you are not helping out the situation by commenting further on the subject. As GE said, "Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them." No reason to acknowledge ridiculous statements in the first place, WB included!
Have a Zin full day!
GregLondon
05-16-10, 03:09
I would say that maybe 1% of the girls using DIA are looking for real love and not thinking about money.
Like many others here, I've been using DIA and have had contact with hundreds of girls and not one has shown any real romantic interest (I'm not bad looking). It seems they aren't really interested unless you are already in their country. If you can meet them now, they're interested.come meet me, I'll tour you, you spend money on me.
That being said this is a mongering website, not a "true love" site. Hehe. Just thought I'd offer my 2 cents.
if what you mean by "true love" is a long term relationship leading to marriage then you are very much wrong, that is probably what 80%+ of the girls on DIA are looking for as a first priority. The problem from their perspective is that 90% of the guys on DIA have no intention of ever setting foot in the Phils, though they may daydream of doing so. Girls can easily spend 20-50P a day at the net cafe chatting to chatmates from overseas. Girls not working in the sex industry will typically be living on about 200P a day so we are talking a significant part of their daily income. Yet there are many guys more than wiling to string the girls along so that they can masterbate when they get home from work - or if they work for the government , most likely at the office.
If by "true love" you are talking about some sort of conception of romantic love a la 1950s Audrey Hepburn movies, then you just have to get realistic. a 19 year old Phillipina is never going to really have such romantic feelings towards a 55 year old white guy with whom she has almost nothing ion common. She may pretend to do so and many foreign guys i have come across love to believe this pretense and are shocked if a girl is honest with them. Such fantasies are very dangerous for foreign guys - it's how such guys get fleeced. That's not to say that you cant have a meaningful relationship between a 19 year old pinay and a 55 year old white guy, that may well develop into real feelings of mutual affection and care. It's just going to be different from the type of romantic relationship between her and say a 25 year old Pinoy.
if you want to try and build a long term relationship with the girl on line then unless she is unusually wealthy or has other means of support, you may need to offer to subsidise her internet time.
Personally I am very skeptical that you can meaningfully get to know a young Philipina online and think that guys who try to do this before actually coming to the Phils are really fooling themselves/killing lonely hours. I think the best that you can do is find a dozen potential prospects (hopefully in just one or two areas of the country then come out and meet them. Maybe half of them will show up. You will ahve fun with the other half and you will end up falling for a one of their friends or a girl you met in te mall.
GregLondon
05-16-10, 03:16
Unfortunately, knee jerk racists will, I'm afraid always be with us. Some people just love to hate. Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them. The only place I've been in the world where I never ran into racism was sub-Saharan Africa, where I worked in 14 countries and never once experienced it even by innuendo.
GE
For once I disagree with GE. I suspect that the reason he did not experience racism in Sub Saharan Africa is that he is (I presume) white. By and large whites are treated as VIPs in sub Saharan Africa - ( at least to their faces) . As a white guy if I thumb a lift in say Zambia i would get picked up almost immediately (generally by black drivers) if i were black i'd have to wait for quite a while for a lift.
........
The problem from their perspective is that 90% of the guys on DIA have no intention of ever setting foot in the Phils, though they may daydream of doing so. Girls can easily spend 20-50P a day at the net cafe chatting to chatmates from overseas. Girls not working in the sex industry will typically be living on about 200P a day so we are talking a significant part of their daily income. Yet there are many guys more than wiling to string the girls along so that they can masterbate when they get home from work - or if they work for the government , most likely at the office............
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Personally I am very skeptical that you can meaningfully get to know a young Philipina online and think that guys who try to do this before actually coming to the Phils are really fooling themselves/killing lonely hours. I think the best that you can do is find a dozen potential prospects (hopefully in just one or two areas of the country then come out and meet them. Maybe half of them will show up. You will ahve fun with the other half and you will end up falling for a one of their friends or a girl you met in te mall.
Exactly right GL.
I live in the Phils and all the "friends" I have on DIA are keen to keep in touch with me because I am actually IN THE PHILS. So many of them talk about bullshitters who are overseas and say they are coming to meet them but never do. These guys get their jollies from talking to some pretty, sexy, young woman on the internet knowing full well that they cannot do the same thing with girls in person either in their own country or probably not anywhere else either. The girls are getting savvy about that too.
I agree too that you MUST meet then in person before you start thinking she is a perfect match.
DIA is an introduction site ONLY. There is a heap of additional work to do after you make the contact.
GoodEnough
05-16-10, 08:47
For once I disagree with GE. I suspect that the reason he did not experience racism in Sub Saharan Africa is that he is (I presume) white. By and large whites are treated as VIPs in sub Saharan Africa - ( at least to their faces) . As a white guy if I thumb a lift in say Zambia i would get picked up almost immediately (generally by black drivers) if i were black i'd have to wait for quite a while for a lift.
I know this is an inappropriate discussion for this forum, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I met lots of African Americans while I was living in Africa, and they got treated the same way that I did.
GE
GregLondon
05-16-10, 09:46
I know this is an inappropriate discussion for this forum, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I met lots of African Americans while I was living in Africa, and they got treated the same way that I did.
GE
Yes black Americans will generally be treated as "honorary whites". But I was knocking around with quite a few local Africans and in my mind there is no question that they are treated as second class citizens. Of course that's to a large extent a mater of econo0mics. being white In Africa is a proxy for being rich even if you happen to be relatively poor. To bring the question back towards mongering ask yourself this if a white girl was to sell her body in say Nairobi do you think she would get the same rate as an equivalently good looking black girl? When i was in Nairobi even a relatively fair skinned Ethiopian girl could get a good premium over local black girl, a European girl would gte significant premium for sure
GoodEnough
05-16-10, 11:21
You're undoubtedly correct, but in such cases, that's a question I think less of racism and more of supply and demand. Men want to try that with which they are unaccustomed; in the case of black Africans, that may mean white women. In the case of white westerners, that could well mean black African women. I doubt, for example, that for experienced white members of this community, a white woman in SE Asia, for example, would bring any premium at all, and the same is probably true for white guys who monger in Africa.
Here in the Philippines, I've not noticed that light skinned Filipinas are particularly more sought after by white guys. To the contrary. It may be that the darker skinned morenas have the advantage because the white guys consider them more "exotic."
At the end of the day, each of us judges the world mostly through the prism of his/her own experience. My comments about the lack of racism I saw in Africa were based on my own experience.
GE
So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?
Thanks in advance
So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?
Thanks in advance
Have you been hiding under a log for the past few weeks Jiggy? This thread discusses them to death if you scroll through all the off-topic posts.
There is really only 1 that is worthwhile and FREE: Date In Asia (DIA)
There are many many that require payment: Cherry Blossoms; Adult Friend Finder; Meetic; Tagged etc etc
GregLondon
05-16-10, 15:20
Have you been hiding under a log for the past few weeks Jiggy? This thread discusses them to death if you scroll through all the off-topic posts.
There is really only 1 that is worthwhile and FREE: Date In Asia (DIA)
There are many many that require payment: Cherry Blossoms; Adult Friend Finder; Meetic; Tagged etc etc
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think its the fucks for free that Jiggy is focusing for not the cost of the website? It seems to be a particular obsession of his.
Re the web sites RK is right that DIA and Tagged are the main two free sites relevant to the Phils. there is another worth checking out person.com which some people like but I personally find a bit confusing. In general DIA has the highest percentage of girls wiling to contemplate short term sex. But Tagged is particularly useful in the Provinces.
As for the fucks themselves being for free I think one has to recognize as a fact of life that for attractive sexy young women the potential demand for people interested in fucking them way outstrips the supply. Therefore such women usually decide to fuck a guy a guy for a reason. In some cases this will be sheer lust, but i think one has to be realistic and if one is talking about a girl half your age and you don't look like Robert de Niro this is unlikely to be the main motivation. Some guys come to the Phils and target the DIA and other dating sites telling the girls that they are seriously looking for a wife etc when infact they have lined up 20 girls in a week and have now such realistic intentions, just so they can save a few bucks and massage their egos. i'm not so impressed by these guys myself. If you are tackling the MILF market of 35+ divorces then sure you can get as much free sex as you like in the Phils. if you are going to hang around for a few weeks and take girls out and take care of them you will get "free" sex too. if you are just flying into town and out a few days later and are looking for 18-25 year olds then you should probably assume that if she fucks you she will be wanting/expecting something in return even if she is too shy to bring the subject up. Typically it is cheaper less hassle and more useful for the girl if this is in the form of cash rather than presents/expensive restaurants etc.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think its the fucks for free that Jiggy is focusing for not the cost of the website? It seems to be a particular obsession of his.
His request is ambiguous and grammatically challenging. I think it can be read as "which websites are free" and also "which websites give free girls". Whatever.
I agree with your analysis GL. I make it VERY clear in my profile on DIA that I am NOT looking for a wife and also that I just want companion for movies, dinner dates, live music etc. Obviously lots of guys spin bullshit to the girls about looking for wives and being serious etc just to get them into bed. So many women ask me if I am a one-night wonder and quiz me on how many girls I am meeting which tells me that they have been fooled at least once and know what guys are up to. It always results in me hearing some tale about some dishonest prick who promised them the earth but after 2 or 3 hours of fun he just dropped them. The irony is that you DON'T have to tell lies like that in order to find willing and very nice women who appreciate a nice night out and enjoy a happy ending too. Many of them hope that you might become smitten with them and stay but the majority accept your directness and just enjoy the opportunity when it "cums".
GregLondon
05-17-10, 03:22
His request is ambiguous and grammatically challenging. I think it can be read as "which websites are free" and also "which websites give free girls". Whatever.
I agree with your analysis GL. I make it VERY clear in my profile on DIA that I am NOT looking for a wife and also that I just want companion for movies, dinner dates, live music etc. Obviously lots of guys spin bullshit to the girls about looking for wives and being serious etc just to get them into bed. So many women ask me if I am a one-night wonder and quiz me on how many girls I am meeting which tells me that they have been fooled at least once and know what guys are up to. It always results in me hearing some tale about some dishonest prick who promised them the earth but after 2 or 3 hours of fun he just dropped them. The irony is that you DON'T have to tell lies like that in order to find willing and very nice women who appreciate a nice night out and enjoy a happy ending too. Many of them hope that you might become smitten with them and stay but the majority accept your directness and just enjoy the opportunity when it "cums".
I agree with RK that especially with Pinays honesty is the best policy. I am always amused by the number of guys on this site who spend a considerable amount of their energy covering their tracks whilst cheating on their wives and girl friends. I'm sure much of this stems from having spun some bull shit "about you are the only one for me , I will love you for ever" in the first place. Why make life so complicated?? Explain to her up front that you are a horndog with an insatiable appetite for fresh new pussy and , at least here in the Philippines, you can end up with a girl who is roping in her friends and cousins or hitting on girls in the mall to add to your sexual pleasure.
FreebieFan
05-17-10, 04:15
If you are just flying into town and out a few days later and are looking for 18-25 year olds then you should probably assume that if she fucks you she will be wanting/expecting something in return even if she is too shy to bring the subject up. Typically it is cheaper less hassle and more useful for the girl if this is in the form of cash rather than presents/expensive restaurants etc.Last trip had me a cute little virgin student. We recently talked about meeting up again when I have my next trip. I want to continue educating her in the school of love LOL.
She asked if before we spend the night together can we buy some school books for her sister. I certainly can Miss!
Is this a shy student wanting some help, is this a shy student taking a chance, or is this a shy student whos not really so shy. Probably a combination of all. Well she did give up her cherry so some plastic folders and books really isn't a big deal LOL
They are bought up in Phils to ask and arent too shy about it. Hence the huge numbers of requests for load.
PolyOrchid
05-17-10, 04:18
I agree with RK that especially with Pinays honesty is the best policy. I am always amused by the number of guys on this site who spend a considerable amount of their energy covering their tracks whilst cheating on their wives and girl friends. I'm sure much of this stems from having spun some bull shit "about you are the only one for me, I will love you for ever" in the first place. Why make life so complicated? Explain to her up front that you are a horndog with an insatiable appetite for fresh new pussy and, at least here in the Philippines, you can end up with a girl who is roping in her friends and cousins or hitting on girls in the mall to add to your sexual pleasure.You are so right, GL. I couldn't believe it at first and, with so much American conditioning, couldn't envision being so straightforward with a woman about my libidinous ways.
I have found that many of these girls here actually like that 'bad boy' or 'maldito' as they call it here, attitude. Now, the difference is that they can like it if you are very straightforward and upfront about it. What they hate is to find out that you are that way, after you have spun a tale that's exactly the opposite.
If you're straightforward and upfront about your desires and intentions, you will, amazingly, have the respect of many girls because of your honesty. Some will play, some won't; but you're not spreading lies and making enemies of women who deserve better than that.
MANY of these Filipinas are true gems, with pure hearts and are very giving. Try honesty with them, you'll be surprised at the results.
Member #4351
05-17-10, 11:08
Yes one turned down my "you make me happy, I'll make you happy" offer, but then asked if I had any friends who were looking for a real girlfriend. Didn't get insulted or angry, but was an exception to the belief that all DIA girls are looking for money.
Another track that takes the middle ground is simply to joke, pretend and insinuate that you are the bad boy. If they ask if you have a gf, give them a big smile and reply, "Yes, but I'm hoping for a few more." Filipinos usually love to laugh and joke. Who doesn't?
This works for me partly because I'm a terrible liar. Therefore, joking about the truth works well.
X
You are so right, GL. I couldn't believe it at first and, with so much American conditioning, couldn't envision being so straightforward with a woman about my libidinous ways.
I have found that many of these girls here actually like that 'bad boy' or 'maldito' as they call it here, attitude. Now, the difference is that they can like it if you are very straightforward and upfront about it. What they hate is to find out that you are that way, after you have spun a tale that's exactly the opposite.
If you're straightforward and upfront about your desires and intentions, you will, amazingly, have the respect of many girls because of your honesty. Some will play, some won't; but you're not spreading lies and making enemies of women who deserve better than that.
MANY of these Filipinas are true gems, with pure hearts and are very giving. Try honesty with them, you'll be surprised at the results.
Tried dia and Cherry blossoms and CB wins every time. No disappointment from the girls and each one of the 9 i met spread their legs for me on the first or second date..........with no money changing hands just paying for dinner.
Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend" :D
Treat em like ho's or s l u t s and they just get off on it ;)
Member #4351
05-17-10, 13:31
If you had such amazing success on CB, why did you ask : "So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?"
Cunning Stunt
05-17-10, 23:25
Another track that takes the middle ground is simply to joke, pretend and insinuate that you are the bad boy. If they ask if you have a gf, give them a big smile and reply, "Yes, but I'm hoping for a few more." Filipinos usually love to laugh and joke. Who doesn't?
This works for me partly because I'm a terrible liar. Therefore, joking about the truth works well.
X
X your back!! And so is Jack Shit (with his brand new wild doggy handle). Almost feels like old times.
Now where the fuck is Carsucks?
Another track that takes the middle ground is simply to joke, pretend and insinuate that you are the bad boy. If they ask if you have a gf, give them a big smile and reply, "Yes, but I'm hoping for a few more." Filipinos usually love to laugh and joke. Who doesn't?
X
I agree X. Filipinas love corny cliches, and the cornier the better.
When they ask "Where is your wife / gf?" I always answer "Which one?"
When my Cebu girl of the day asks whether I have a Cebu gf I always say that I have one in Manila, Davao, Tacloban, Bohol and Iloilo and I am looking for a full set. Takes a while for them to process that one but eventually they are ROFL.
Tried dia and Cherry blossoms and CB wins every time. No disappointment from the girls and each one of the 9 i met spread their legs for me on the first or second date..........with no money changing hands just paying for dinner.
Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend" :D
Treat em like ho's or s l u t s and they just get off on it ;)
Wow Jiggy You Are The Man????? Must be great to brag about how much free pussy you managed to score from your "girl friends".:(
You ever heard of Karma?
Robb
Member #4351
05-18-10, 06:07
I have found that those who brag, generally have in reality the least to brag about.
Further to what Jiggy has said, I have found CB fine.
For me, there are three major advantages that it has.
Firstly, the search engine is far superior. I am looking for a particular shape and size of woman, and it does this for me fine.
Secon, I have loaded my specific preferences, and every day I get a set of matches to my specification. Usually it is about 600.
Third, the profiles can have a number of photos attached, so you get a much better idea of her shape, size etc that from the single facial that you get on DIA.
And, in general, the girls appear. Not 100%, but almost all. I can't think of any that have been starfish. I have had a few virgins, but I knew that before we met, and many have good, well paying, responsible jobs.
So I am more than satisfied.
Having said that, DIA is superior in organising the last minute liaison when plans A and B have failed. And I have had some lovely spur of the moment hook-ups.
Good luck,
Gangles.
Tally Wacker
05-19-10, 03:42
I am in the USA at the moment and will arrice in Phil next month. I have attempted to register with DIA but I'm having a problem. They ask for a Cell # to send a SMS Text to verify the account.
No prob, but when I choose the USA as my Country and then put in my 10 digit phone # in I never get the SMS Text with Access Code. WTF!
There is not contact assistance on Website so I'm here asking for help.
Any ideas what I'm doing rong?
Thanks for any help!
WestCoast1
05-19-10, 07:09
I am in the USA at the moment and will arrice in Phil next month. I have attempted to register with DIA but I'm having a problem. They ask for a Cell # to send a SMS Text to verify the account.
No prob, but when I choose the USA as my Country and then put in my 10 digit phone # in I never get the SMS Text with Access Code. WTF!
There is not contact assistance on Website so I'm here asking for help.
Any ideas what I'm doing rong?
Thanks for any help!TW, try entering a plus sign (+) in front of the country code. If you are entereing 15553337777, try +1555333777. Alternately, if you are already telling them USA with a drop-down box, skip the country code (1) completely:
5553337777
wc
GregLondon
05-19-10, 10:19
Tried dia and Cherry blossoms and CB wins every time. No disappointment from the girls and each one of the 9 i met spread their legs for me on the first or second date..........with no money changing hands just paying for dinner.
Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend" :D
Treat em like ho's or s l u t s and they just get off on it ;)
This sounds to me like someone who has dined in 9 restaurants and had exemplary service from all the waiters and waitresses then sneaked off without leaving a tip - then goes to a dining forum to boast about how all these people were keen to serve him out of the goodness of their hearts.
Of course it does depend on what type of women we are talking about. If these are older women with independent income and property, they are most likely truly doing it for the pleasure.
If we are talking about 18-25 year old unemployed or student girls or girls with a 6000P a month job, then in my experience remuneration is anticipated and/or hoped for unless the impression has been created that they will be your "girl friend" which in the phils typically means someone that you are pretty serious about and are having a 1-1 relationship which will lead somewhere. Of course it is possible to spin all sort of BS and get her to believe this even though you are just about to leave for your third "date" of the evening. Whilst you are at it, why not put her mobile phone into your pocket before you head off ?
The practice amongst semi pro Phil girls is not to talk about payment but to simply assume that a guy will be mature enough to treat her fairly afterwards. The girls who have had more experience have generally had some negative experiences where the guy thinks he is God's gift to women and just does a hit and run. Generally these are younger guys so many girls are particularly cautious with younger western guys even though they may see them as more physically attractive. These girls then start to think they need to clarify remuneration beforehand.
Personally I really like the Philippines way of doing things and would hate it if it goes the way of haggling for what she will do for how much as in say Pattaya.
If you had such amazing success on CB, why did you ask : "So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?"
I asked because I thought there might be better ones out there that i wasn't aware of.
Anyway guys try CB - I think its good value myself
Cheers
Wow Jiggy You Are The Man????? Must be great to brag about how much free pussy you managed to score from your "girl friends".:(
You ever heard of Karma?
Robb
Whats Karma got to do with that??!!?!?!!?????? Jealous eh?
I said that I pay for dinner................I'm providing this info so if you try properly on CB you might be able to score for just the payment of a dinner.
If you can't deal with that well.....................blow me :D
Whats Karma got to do with that??!!?!?!!?????? Jealous eh?
I said that I pay for dinner................I'm providing this info so if you try properly on CB you might be able to score for just the payment of a dinner.
If you can't deal with that well.....................blow me :D
Blow you??? What you are a gay????? I live and work here, just PM me where you want to meet. You are a dumbass:(
GregLondon
05-19-10, 14:12
Of course it does depend on what type of women we are talking about. If these are older women with independent income and property, they are most likely truly doing it for the pleasure.
Actually one of my girls just told me about conjugal visits to the prisons here. Apparently wives and GF's can get a pass to visit their guys for this once a week. She says that there are 3 old (in the Phils means 40 something for women), ugly women in her area who didn't have any nooky so made a habit of visiting the prison every Saturday to find someone to give them a good seeing too. Apparently alot of jokes mimicking the way they walk on the way out of the prison on a Saurday afternoon.
Gentlemen,
What is this business all about?
Why are you putting the boot into Jiggy?
The type of woman that I am looking for on CB may be the same as he is.
The women I usually end up with from CB are independent, have decent jobs, never ask for money, nor ever indicate in any way that they need it.
To offer them money is an insult, It indicates that I think that they are p4p, when they are not. I cover their costs, with some to spare. To buy something for their kid, or their family. These women are earning maybe 12k to 30k per month. They support their families and still have money to spare.
Except for those that have told me in advance that they are virgins, or that there will be no sex, all have climbed into bed with me on the first occasion. Often within minutes of us being in my room. They are not *****s, they are regular women who have normal sexual needs and desires, and have been celibate for some time for a variety of reasons. I tell them that I have had a vasectomy, and that I really love to give oral. And they know that they are going to get a very pleasurable and satisfying experience.
I can fully empathise with what Jiggy says, but I would not have put it so crudely. Nor do I keep count like he has. But my experience from CB has been the same as his. But I also put in the effort to get to know them fairly well, I text and email from home, often for months beforehand. Sometimes I chat, but as little as possible because it is very inefficient. Sometimes they will bring a cousin, or a friend, or their mother as a chaperone. I accept that, treat them as equals, with respect. Soon enough the chaperone leaves, satisfied that I am OK, and the lady is reassured. She feels comfortable and safe, and hence she is prepared to let her guard down. His statistics re the lady giving head is pretty normal, all swallow. I am not into anal, so I don't know about that.
Having said that, I also meet up with other women referred to me by ISGers, friends, sometimes I pull a girl from a bar, but not often.
Calm down. Maybe Jiggy is bragging, maybe not. But there is no reason to doubt what he ha said, and let us assume that he is not a kuripot.
Gangles
Blow you??? What you are a gay????? I live and work here, just PM me where you want to meet. You are a dumbass:(
Sorry i love the CB ladies too much !!
Gentlemen,
What is this business all about?
Why are you putting the boot into Jiggy?
The type of woman that I am looking for on CB may be the same as he is.
The women I usually end up with from CB are independent, have decent jobs, never ask for money, nor ever indicate in any way that they need it.
To offer them money is an insult, It indicates that I think that they are p4p, when they are not. I cover their costs, with some to spare. To buy something for their kid, or their family. These women are earning maybe 12k to 30k per month. They support their families and still have money to spare.
Except for those that have told me in advance that they are virgins, or that there will be no sex, all have climbed into bed with me on the first occasion. Often within minutes of us being in my room. They are not *****s, they are regular women who have normal sexual needs and desires, and have been celibate for some time for a variety of reasons. I tell them that I have had a vasectomy, and that I really love to give oral. And they know that they are going to get a very pleasurable and satisfying experience.
I can fully empathise with what Jiggy says, but I would not have put it so crudely. Nor do I keep count like he has. But my experience from CB has been the same as his. But I also put in the effort to get to know them fairly well, I text and email from home, often for months beforehand. Sometimes I chat, but as little as possible because it is very inefficient. Sometimes they will bring a cousin, or a friend, or their mother as a chaperone. I accept that, treat them as equals, with respect. Soon enough the chaperone leaves, satisfied that I am OK, and the lady is reassured. She feels comfortable and safe, and hence she is prepared to let her guard down. His statistics re the lady giving head is pretty normal, all swallow. I am not into anal, so I don't know about that.
Having said that, I also meet up with other women referred to me by ISGers, friends, sometimes I pull a girl from a bar, but not often.
Calm down. Maybe Jiggy is bragging, maybe not. But there is no reason to doubt what he ha said, and let us assume that he is not a kuripot.
Gangles
Hi Gangles
Thanks. Yes i may have been a bit crude onmy assessment but I do stand by my comments that there are lots of ladies to be had on CB for fun and more.
If you are paying them truckloads of money for sex then i suspect you are doing something wrong
CB rules!
Tally Wacker
05-19-10, 16:16
When you guys get done Making-Out can you give me any assistance with this question? Thanks
I am in the USA at the moment and will arrice in Phil next month. I have attempted to register with DIA but I'm having a problem. They ask for a Cell # to send a SMS Text to verify the account.
No prob, but when I choose the USA as my Country and then put in my 10 digit phone # in I never get the SMS Text with Access Code. WTF!
There is not contact assistance on Website so I'm here asking for help.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks for any help!
WestCoast1
05-20-10, 03:51
If you are paying them truckloads of money for sex then i suspect you are doing something wrong.Everyone is entitled to express his opinion (above). You realize its a board full of punters discussing it. Also, the $50 the gents here often pay the gals to spend the night (or get out) isn't a truckload. Its less than the cost of a dinner/movie out in the western world.
Everyone is entitled to express his opinion (above). You realize its a board full of punters discussing it. Also, the $50 the gents here often pay the gals to spend the night (or get out) isn't a truckload. Its less than the cost of a dinner/movie out in the western world.
Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up
WestCoast1
05-20-10, 14:49
Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard upMany don't want to bother with the 'score', or with relationship crap, or 'chatting her up'. As has been said many times here, the money is for her to leave. I think there's some confusion on your part with that 'hard up' thing. Your desire to not spend 50 clams is respectable. Other's desires to part with it also is.
Robb is right. And YOU do know what I mean.
Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up
If we are talking about 18-25 year old unemployed or student girls or girls with a 6000P a month job, then in my experience remuneration is anticipated and/or hoped for unless the impression has been created that they will be your "girl friend" which in the phils typically means someone that you are pretty serious about and are having a 1-1 relationship which will lead somewhere. Of course it is possible to spin all sort of BS and get her to believe this even though you are just about to leave for your third "date" of the evening. Whilst you are at it, why not put her mobile phone into your pocket before you head off ?
If a girl doesn't ask for money why does one have to pay? Alot of these girls enjoy having sex anyways. Why does the guy always have to part with his cash?
Many don't want to bother with the 'score', or with relationship crap, or 'chatting her up'. As has been said many times here, the money is for her to leave. I think there's some confusion on your part with that 'hard up' thing. Your desire to not spend 50 clams is respectable. Other's desires to part with it also is.
WC1 you are correct. My point is not to say that there is no free pussy, but if you are misleading the girls to get the free pussy, then I have a problem.
I don't think 500P or 1000P (for taxi's and load) is a truckload of money. If you do think that maybe you can't afford to be here mongering.
Do you ever wonder why a lot of profiles on DIA/CB state that if you are only looking to play games or have a vacation fuck to not reply to my ad? If you ask anyone girl who posts this in her profile she will most likely state because she met someone who she thought was the one, but he was here to play games.
Robb
If a girl doesn't ask for money why does one have to pay? Alot of these girls enjoy having sex anyways. Why does the guy always have to part with his cash?
The girls sometimes will not ask for money because money equates prostituition. But they will be happy if you give some. These girls who readily meet foreigners are poor hoping that someone will take them and their family out of their poverty.
To use them with false promises s not a good idea. Be upfront with your intentions and I would say 50% agree to have sex with you. Always show appreciation by giving money saying it is just a gift for her to buy things she needs.
PolyOrchid
05-21-10, 02:53
....But they will be happy if you give some. These girls who readily meet foreigners are poor hoping that someone will take them and their family out of their poverty.
Always show appreciation by giving money saying it is just a gift for her to buy things she needs.Right on, Sammon.
Guys, how much easier, how much more readily available can it get than here, with many of these beautiful, willing girls? Let's show our appreciation in the currency ALL of these girls need and appreciate, CASH.
I recently offered a Filipina friend to pay 500 pesos per month for her to get a small room near her university. Her genuine appreciation and gratitude equaled that I would have seen giving $1000 to a first world girl.
Remember, these girls are, by and large, desperately poor. For all the kindness and love they show us, let's not shortchange them. Our small 'gifts' mean so much to them.
GregLondon
05-21-10, 10:20
If a girl doesn't ask for money why does one have to pay? Alot of these girls enjoy having sex anyways. Why does the guy always have to part with his cash?
I've no problem with this provided you are honest and upfront about it. That way the girl can decide whether she is so horny that she wants to fuck you for free or not. Maybe add something to your DIA / CB profile along the lines of: I'm looking to have a night of uninhibited sexual passion and then never contact you again. Please don't expect to gain more than a free cup of coffee out of it. But you may feature in my statistical analysis of how many girls I was able to fuck in the ass to be posted on The International Sex Guide. Then let's see how many positive responses you get.
I've seem a lot of guys profiles on these sites and never once seen one as honest and upfront as that. Instead what you see is meally mouthed words about looking for someone special, I'm a simple guy blah blah.
If what you are doing is simply misleading the girl or relying on the fact that most foreign guys will treat them fairly so there is an unwritten expectation of that, then frankly I am not impressed. The inevitable result will, especially if The Phils gets flooded with guys who formerly went to Thailand, be that the whole thing becomes more commercial and negotiated just as it has become in Thailand.
Now Gangles has described how he is targeting more mature women earning 12-30k a month (my guess would be less than 10% of the girls on DIA are earning this much if we exclude the Pros and Scammers), romancing them and being pretty upfront about it. Again I don't have a problem with this both sides are having a fine time.
WestCoast1
05-21-10, 14:24
I've no problem with this provided you are honest and upfront about it. That way the girl can decide whether she is so horny that she wants to fuck you for free or not. Maybe add something to your DIA / CB profile along the lines of: I'm looking to have a night of uninhibited sexual passion and then never contact you again. Please don't expect to gain more than a free cup of coffee out of it. But you may feature in my statistical analysis of how many girls I was able to fuck in the ass to be posted on The International Sex Guide. Then let's see how many positive responses you get.I recently made a profile on CB that is similar to the one posted above, but with softer wording. It says that I'm not interested in marriage, only interested in touring, only interested in fun and possible travel for a few days, I'm nice, white, and also clean. Bam, 9 responses in the first hour, several more when I got up this morning. I've had girls hang on me for days after meeting in my hotel; some pro's and some just nice gals I've met in chat for a drink or two. Other times its preferable to pay for a 'massage'. Either way, as long as both parties are up front, its all good.
Wow,
I would never have thought that this topic would take off the way that it has.
But reading the posts has highlighted the fact that has not been discussed, and that is, our/your motivation in meeting filipinas.
And that is the key to the whole discussion.
And remember that we are talking about filipinas met via internet dating sites.
Some guys just want to root as many women as possible. OK. As long as they are upfront about it, then OK, and these would probably have the attitude that the filipina should be paid. I guess the statement “pay her to get her to leave” exemplifies this attitude.
Others may be looking for a companion for the medium term, maybe a couple of weeks, while they visit the Phils and travel around a bit. Probably buy her clothes, jewelry, maybe a watch, phone. Should she be paid money as well?
Others, like me, are looking for the special one. I meet and interview a number of women, but my intention is genuine. And in these cases, money is not an issue.
I also set up a number of other meetings, where the mutual intent is heat and play, and I pay them after, always in the form of money for the kids education, or for mama’s medicine etc. because the women have feelings and standards as well.
And there are some who are backups, in the event of an empty bed, and they are paid.
My trips end up as a kind of compromise/conflict of interest. On the one hand, I am looking for miss right, but I also want to have company every night. Sometimes, miss Right does not show, or has mis-represented herself and I make it clear that this will not work. She leaves, and I have an empty bed.
But it cuts both ways.
I thought Miss J1 was just right, tall, thin, intelligent, a warehouse manager. We really hit it off, traveled round, different countries. Then 2 weeks after I had returned home, she sends an email that she has taken a contract in an Arab country, just to prove to herself that she can do it. Still, we keep in touch, met up for her first month vacation, I bought her father a fishing boat to get the family out of the subsistence farming cycle.
I thought Miss M1 was pretty close to what I wanted. We had a lot of time together, including several overseas trips, I put her through two years of school to finish her high school diploma, and I built her a house. After a while, her communications became pretty erratic, and I became suspicious. I found that she had hitched with a local pinoy, sort of de facto husband, had borne a child, and had forgotten to mention it to me. I have cut her out of my will.
I thought Miss M2 was perfect. Wow. Then, a couple of months after I had returned home, she sends an email to say that she had met up with a Korean, she was pregnant, he had left, would I send her more money to pay for her baby.
There are others, of course.
I am putting one through college, one year to go. I am about to pay for Miss A to take a concentrated computer course so she can get a job.
I supported Miss R for 2 years to put her mildly dyslexic daughter through a private school to get her education started. The Miss R started to become a bit erratic in her communications, turns out she had met an Italian, married him, and is now in Italy. And she had 2 other kids that she had forgotten to mention. She was cut out of the will.
Etc, etc..
GregLondon
05-22-10, 01:21
Wow,
I would never have thought that this topic would take off the way that it has.
But reading the posts has highlighted the fact that has not been discussed, and that is, our/your motivation in meeting filipinas.
And that is the key to the whole discussion.
And remember that we are talking about filipinas met via internet dating sites.
Some guys just want to root as many women as possible. OK. As long as they are upfront about it, then OK, and these would probably have the attitude that the filipina should be paid. I guess the statement “pay her to get her to leave” exemplifies this attitude.
Others may be looking for a companion for the medium term, maybe a couple of weeks, while they visit the Phils and travel around a bit. Probably buy her clothes, jewelry, maybe a watch, phone. Should she be paid money as well?
Others, like me, are looking for the special one. I meet and interview a number of women, but my intention is genuine. And in these cases, money is not an issue.
I also set up a number of other meetings, where the mutual intent is heat and play, and I pay them after, always in the form of money for the kids education, or for mama’s medicine etc. because the women have feelings and standards as well.
And there are some who are backups, in the event of an empty bed, and they are paid.
My trips end up as a kind of compromise/conflict of interest. On the one hand, I am looking for miss right, but I also want to have company every night. Sometimes, miss Right does not show, or has mis-represented herself and I make it clear that this will not work. She leaves, and I have an empty bed.
But it cuts both ways.
I thought Miss J1 was just right, tall, thin, intelligent, a warehouse manager. We really hit it off, traveled round, different countries. Then 2 weeks after I had returned home, she sends an email that she has taken a contract in an Arab country, just to prove to herself that she can do it. Still, we keep in touch, met up for her first month vacation, I bought her father a fishing boat to get the family out of the subsistence farming cycle.
I thought Miss M1 was pretty close to what I wanted. We had a lot of time together, including several overseas trips, I put her through two years of school to finish her high school diploma, and I built her a house. After a while, her communications became pretty erratic, and I became suspicious. I found that she had hitched with a local pinoy, sort of de facto husband, had borne a child, and had forgotten to mention it to me. I have cut her out of my will.
I thought Miss M2 was perfect. Wow. Then, a couple of months after I had returned home, she sends an email to say that she had met up with a Korean, she was pregnant, he had left, would I send her more money to pay for her baby.
There are others, of course.
I am putting one through college, one year to go. I am about to pay for Miss A to take a concentrated computer course so she can get a job.
I supported Miss R for 2 years to put her mildly dyslexic daughter through a private school to get her education started. The Miss R started to become a bit erratic in her communications, turns out she had met an Italian, married him, and is now in Italy. And she had 2 other kids that she had forgotten to mention. She was cut out of the will.
Etc, etc..
IMHO Gangles has been acting more than fairly. I agree that the key to this is to act honestly. He is also perfectly right to point out that many Filipinas, even ones that one comes to trust have a serious problem with the telling the truth, the whole truth etc. Personally I think this is more excusable than some of the ruses that guys use, after all you are probably more than twice her age, and can afford to fly to the Phils rather than struggle to find the bus fare to town. What is extremely disappointing is the pretty egregious deceptions after very generous and thoughtful behaviour along the lines that Gangles has outlined.
As far as pressies for medium term flings are concerned. I think in Asia far more than in the West "cash is king". I am happy to buy minor gifts along the way - a 300P bikini can transform the way many of these girls look on the beach or pool, but then generally come up with an appropriate amount of cash as a parting gift. One can easily finesse any potential embarrassment, in terms of "I wanted to buy you X but it's much better that you choose one that you really want etc" .
GregLondon
05-22-10, 12:03
I recently made a profile on CB that is similar to the one posted above, but with softer wording. It says that I'm not interested in marriage, only interested in touring, only interested in fun and possible travel for a few days, I'm nice, white, and also clean. Bam, 9 responses in the first hour, several more when I got up this morning. I've had girls hang on me for days after meeting in my hotel; some pro's and some just nice gals I've met in chat for a drink or two. Other times its preferable to pay for a 'massage'. Either way, as long as both parties are up front, its all good.
I agree that honesty is the crucial element in this. If one looks at this from the girl's perspective then what she is asking is (1) what kind of guy is this and what does he expect of me/want me to do? and (2) what's in it for me?
The kind of profile you outline above (which is similar in flavour to my own) is honest and upfront about what you are looking for ie (1) but vague about (2) The reason that it is vague is that IMHO there is a general presumption that if a foreign guy is taking a poor, much younger girl for his short term fun then he is probably going to give her 500/1000P if she satisfies his needs, if that's not your intention, then I believe that the honest and upfront thing to do would be to make sure she is clear about that upfront too.
The policies of the web sites prohibit asking for money so this can't be done directly and is anyhow too embarrassing /against the culture of many less hardened Filipinos. Now if the answer to (2) is a trip to the islands and all your meals and expenses paid , then fine and dandy. I'm in Puerto Princesa now and am amazed how many girls who have lived here all their lives have never been island hoping in the beautiful Honda Bay just 25 kms away let alone the world class Bacuit Archipelago around El Nido, they simply don't have the budget.
However there are guys out there, and I'm not suggesting that you are one of them, for whom it is a matter of pride and machismo that they "never pay for pussy" or at least that they still have what it takes to attract and seduce a stream of nymphettes without financial incentives. This is very much the impression given by Jiggy's post which triggered this discussion and is reinforced if one takes a look at his previous posts to the forum the majority of which focus on a ceaseless quest for "free pussy".
As someone put it much more succinctly then me, there is an unlimited supply of "free pussy" here if you feel OK about stiffing pennyless young girls, and justifying it to yourself on the grounds that you are some sort of maestro in bed - personally I don't.
I have a profile on DIA which is 'diplomatically honest', i.e. I say that I am not seeking a serious GF at this time, but rather some 'romance, physical passion and intimate friendship. However, I am open to meeting the gal of my dreams here who will sweep me off my feet'.
So, a few days ago I make contact with a DIA gal who looks quite pretty and has the usual fairly generic profile listing a high school education and nothing filled in for occupation. She also looks quite pretty in her photo.
After a few exchanged messages, I ask if she would like to meet sometime soon for a coffee. She immediately replies with 'I'm free tonight' (last night). I wasn't free, so I suggest tonight, to which she immediately replies, 'OK' and includes her CP number. She seems eager!
So, around noon today, I text her to confirm if she still wants to meet up this eve. She replies, 'Yes', so I arrange for her to meet me at 7:30 at Greenbelt. All is well.
Then around 5pm I get a text from her, 'Can I ask you something?' I reply back, 'sure', thinking that it is either going to be that she wants to bring a friend/cousin/aunt/sister/gay friend with her when she meets me, or she wants to make sure I will pay her taxi fare (which I always do when I meet a gal in the center of town).
So I am quite surprised when I read 'u know I have only 200 peso in my pocket to go there... i dont want to waste money, am just want to tel u i am selling my body to u. this is my first time i am doing this, first time to go to greenbelt. i need money this time, i want to going back in dubai where place i have work. i dont have work here... hope u understand'
Hmmmm, well at least she is being honest (except perhaps for the part about the first time she is doing this!). Not sure how to respond to that, so I tell her I understand her situation and I ask her how much she expects to get from me. I also ask her to send me a few recent pics to my email because I have been disappointed a few times in meeting DIA gals who do not look like their profile photo. I also say that I am only interested in her offer if she is very slim and attractive. Yep, i figure at this point, honesty is the best policy!
So she replies that she will send a few pics in a few minutes, and that she wants... wait for it... $100.
I giggle as I read that, and then wait for the pics. The pics arrive in my yahoo a few minutes later and indeed she is cute, but nowhere near $100 cute. I text her back and tell her she is being unrealistic coz $100 is what professional escorts get and any guy can go into LA Cafe and walk out with a lovely gal for 2000 pesos for the whole night.
She then gets back to me to say '4 u 3000 pesos ok... how much can u give me?'
I go back and look at her pics and decide that though she does look rather sweet, the moment of interest for me is passing and I really don't want to haggle with her about money. So I text her back with apologies that I'm afraid I must cancel the date and I hope she can find another guy to help her get back to Dubai.
So now I am scrolling through my CP phone book to find a replacement date for this eve!
Manta Ray
I've no problem with this provided you are honest and upfront about it.
I do much better when I meet random girls in public compared to internet sites. What I usually do is straight up ask them if they expect money from me or not. And I tell them I don't pay for sex, which is a lie (I do this to qualify the girl). The majority say they don't want money. The ones that say they want money I give them cash. The others get a free meal and a few pesos for jeepney/taxi back home.
I'm not in the charity business. Most of these girls are getting fucked by phil guys who give them no cash. Why is it that the foreigner always gets stuck with the bill?
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