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Amjeck
05-22-10, 13:44
there is an unlimited supply of "free pussy" here if you feel OK about stiffing pennyless young girls, and justifying it to yourself on the grounds that you are some sort of maestro in bed - personally I don't.
I agree it's old to hear some guys talk about "yah, i got laid for free etc..". The unfortunate thing, however is that money doesn't grow on trees. As a monger, if I don't have to pay or if I can get a discount of the price, I'm happy. For me it has nothing to do with pride or machoism. It has to do with money. With exchange rates getting worse and the economy in shambles, if I have the opportunity not to pay a girl for sex, I'll take it.

WestCoast1
05-22-10, 13:52
The kind of profile you outline above (which is similar in flavour to my own) is honest and upfront about what you are looking for ie (1) but vague about (2) The reason that it is vague is that IMHO there is a general presumption that if a foreign guy is taking a poor, much younger girl for his short term fun then he is probably going to give her 500/1000P if she satisfies his needs, if that's not your intention, then I believe that the honest and upfront thing to do would be to make sure she is clear about that upfront too.All of which can be discussed in chat, not necessarily in the profile. I'm fairly sure that when u tell her (profile and/or chat): 1. Your not interested in marriage; 2. You're only in town a few days; 3. You are touring the country and want her to be your guide while you are in town; 4. You will pick up all of her traveling expenses if you decide to take her anywhere; that you have covered the bases.

That's pretty clear. Amazingly, there seem to be oodles of asian girls willing to do this. If she's been a good gfe for me, I'm not above slipping a few pesos in her purse when I'm putting her on a bus or she's dropping me at the airport.

Red Kilt
05-22-10, 16:21
................................

I go back and look at her pics and decide that though she does look rather sweet, the moment of interest for me is passing and I really don't want to haggle with her about money. So I text her back with apologies that I'm afraid I must cancel the date and I hope she can find another guy to help her get back to Dubai..............

Hi Manta. Good to see you back here.
I agree that getting caught up in the haggle over price is a "passion-killer" for me too.

I had a terrible experience recently that annoyed me intensely. I have been meeting a girl quite regularly for fun only and have been paying her a fixed price and she knows that is fixed. She usually texts me asking to meet so I know when she is hard-up for cash.
She arrived as usual and after the usual chit chat and the preliminaries we got down to business. It was full-on no holds barred foreplay and the anaconda was desperately seeking a nice moist dark hole to crawl into. I reached for the muzzle to slip over his head and got a "Honey, can you please give me extra money today because of .x...y...z ...."
Now I was NOT interested in discussing this topic right at this CRITICAL point, and I said "later later". She kept on about how she needed extra and it was too much for me. I rolled off, condom still in the wrapper, and told her to get dressed and go and not to call me any more.
She was shocked, dismayed, started to cry etc etc and genuinely could not understand why I was so annoyed/frustrated/pissed off.
It was a clear, stark reminder to me that no matter how much a working girl seems to like the sex and how much she seems to be "into it" they really are usually only acting in order to earn cash and for her to mention extra money right at the "height of passion" showed me that she was just acting out a performance.

So Manta ..... I have had several experiences very similar to yours that ended up in me pulling the plug (so to speak) but at different stages of the process. You got in early so you never had the annoying finale that I endured.

WestCoast1
05-22-10, 16:38
Hi Manta. Good to see you back here.

I agree that getting caught up in the haggle over price is a "passion-killer" for me too.

I had a terrible experience recently that annoyed me intensely. I have been meeting a girl quite regularly for fun only and have been paying her a fixed price and she knows that is fixed. She usually texts me asking to meet so I know when she is hard-up for cash.

She arrived as usual and after the usual chit chat and the preliminaries we got down to business. It was full-on no holds barred foreplay and the anaconda was desperately seeking a nice moist dark hole to crawl into. I reached for the muzzle to slip over his head and got a "Honey, can you please give me extra money today because of. X. Y. Z. "

Now I was NOT interested in discussing this topic right at this CRITICAL point, and I said "later later". She kept on about how she needed extra and it was too much for me. I rolled off, condom still in the wrapper, and told her to get dressed and go and not to call me any more.

She was shocked, dismayed, started to cry etc etc and genuinely could not understand why I was so annoyed/frustrated/pissed off.

It was a clear, stark reminder to me that no matter how much a working girl seems to like the sex and how much she seems to be "into it" they really are usually only acting in order to earn cash and for her to mention extra money right at the "height of passion" showed me that she was just acting out a performance.

So Manta. I have had several experiences very similar to yours that ended up in me pulling the plug (so to speak) but at different stages of the process. You got in early so you never had the annoying finale that I endured.A buddy tells me of his former american gf who did something similar. She came over for a dinner-in date, their first naughty encounter. As the passion built up and at the moment of naughty impact, she stopped him with "Can I ask you something? Can you loan me $800? " Hahaha he said he was stymied and didn't know what to do, he could not think at all from all the kissing she was tagging him with. He said, "talk later" and started to proceed. She rolled him off and stood up and started to dress, asking him again for the loan, something she needed to get for her mom. He was shell-shocked. A complete act on her part. She was out the door in 1 minute when he told her "let me thing about it. " He called her the next day to ask why she pulled that crap and she never returned his calls. No money, no honey!

Them whoe's is everywhere!

The Departed
05-22-10, 16:38
She arrived as usual and after the usual chit chat and the preliminaries we got down to business. It was full-on no holds barred foreplay and the anaconda was desperately seeking a nice moist dark hole to crawl into. I reached for the muzzle to slip over his head and got a "Honey, can you please give me extra money today because of. X. Y. Z. "

Now I was NOT interested in discussing this topic right at this CRITICAL point, and I said "later later". She kept on about how she needed extra and it was too much for me. I rolled off, condom still in the wrapper, and told her to get dressed and go and not to call me any more.

She was shocked, dismayed, started to cry etc etc and genuinely could not understand why I was so annoyed/frustrated/pissed off.

It was a clear, stark reminder to me that no matter how much a working girl seems to like the sex and how much she seems to be "into it" they really are usually only acting in order to earn cash and for her to mention extra money right at the "height of passion" showed me that she was just acting out a performance.So women just think of the ONE thing. I am shocked.

Manta Ray
05-22-10, 18:32
So Manta ..... I have had several experiences very similar to yours that ended up in me pulling the plug (so to speak) but at different stages of the process. You got in early so you never had the annoying finale that I endured.[/QUOTE]

Greetings RK, good to hear from you... Though I'm sure we both wish it would have been to compare notes on more, er, pleasant experiences. Indeed, it is a rather gruesome reality check when a gal one considers as more than simply a provider ends up showing herself to be, well, merely a simple provider. Oh well, it's all grist for the humility quotient! I hope you were at least able to salvage the hat and put it to good use with a more deserving babae!

MR

Blackangst
05-22-10, 23:39
Right on, Sammon.

Guys, how much easier, how much more readily available can it get than here, with many of these beautiful, willing girls? Let's show our appreciation in the currency ALL of these girls need and appreciate, CASH.

I recently offered a Filipina friend to pay 500 pesos per month for her to get a small room near her university. Her genuine appreciation and gratitude equaled that I would have seen giving $1000 to a first world girl.

Remember, these girls are, by and large, desperately poor. For all the kindness and love they show us, let's not shortchange them. Our small 'gifts' mean so much to them.

/agree completely.

Manta Ray
05-23-10, 01:46
Them whoe's is everywhere!

However painful, it's useful for us to be reminded every now and again that there are some universals in life that transcend culture and geography!

MR

Marconista
05-23-10, 03:46
Back in Manila for the main purpose… pussy, but also for business.

I am sorry for not sharing pictures, since the girls are mainly amateurs and I want to protect their identity from some of the scoundrels here.

I post this in “Chat Rooms & Pen Pals”, since all ladies are from DiA and Tagged, and may be of interest for those using DiA and Tagged as tools for meeting females in the Phils. As you will see, its not hard at all.

Day 1.
Ms E1, 26yo from DiA that I met one year ago, but did not fuck on first date back then. This time she was out of her clothes before she was fully inside the room.
Last time she gave me a HJ and I fingerfucked her. Now she played excellent and I really enjoyed meeting her again.
She gave me a soso blowjob, not being exposed much to it, hence not to completion. She said she had prepared for this meeting so it was ok if I cum inside her.
Claimed she had met only two guys in DiA. I was the first, one year ago, then an American two months later. As most girls say, the guys online never visit Manila, they just want to see them online.
She has tried to be a part time cam-girl, using her aunts’ pc, but never made any money out of it. She stayed 6 hours and made it a good start on the trip (She txted me every morning after, saying “Good Morning Dear. I like to meet you again).

Day 2:
My regular masseuse Ms. M (met via manilatonight.com several years ago) gave me a wet Thai massage and then a great fuck.
She started on the regular massage but became busy with some domestic problem so I told her that we could continue at a later date.
The wet-massage is not the best I have experienced but still fun as I don’t experience it many places (She txted me several times during the week asking to finalize the massage, but I did not find time for it).
Went out with some friends and had dinner at Mall of Asia. A lot of new restaurants have opened up on the seaside part of the mall. Nice place. Afterwards I stopped by some small clubs for music and a beer near Remedios Circle and then home to the hotel alone to adjust the jetleg.

Day 3:
Ms L, 23yo from Bulacan. Met in DiA. I had originally hoped to meet her yesterday, but she was out hiking with the church-group and staying out overnight.
When coming home, she just showered and was on the bus to Manila to meet me. She told me that she tried to txt me when on camping, she even climbed a tree to get a signal.
It took a couple of hours to make her feel really comfortable. She has a lot of foreign friends online but I never found out how many she has met up with here in Manila and slept with. Did not push for it. She showed me photos of her male friends that have sent her everything from a laptop to food from the US without even coming to the Phils. Another guy sent her money for her to visit family in the province. What she asked from me was a perfume, which we bought in Harrison the morning after (php 2000) in addition to me paying her transport to/from Manila which was 160x2 for the bus.
When we met she thought she would just meet me for coffe and some snacks and acted like she owned the world, a little cocky, and opened with a statement that she would be safe with me since she got her menstruation on Thursday.
Well, well,,, what do you know... After getting comfortable I was at it on a freshly shaved pussy that loved being played with. A great time.
She used my laptop for uploading pics from the hiking. Monday morning we had another round before I checked out and changed hotel.
She wanted to stay with me the whole week, but I said that I will call her if I have free time to meet again. And I did.

Day 4.
Work. Was out having dinner at Seaside, near Mall of Asia with colleagues. Tired, so went home alone.

Day 5.
Ms. G 31yo from DiA. Chatted her up in the evening after having chatted with her earlier a few weeks earlier. Therefore she arrived late, almost midnight coming from Dasmarinas. But she wanted it so much, so she had no problem in leaving the kids at home with her mother to get some manoj and chocolate. We had breakfast Wednesday morning and I sent her off at 0930 with 1K and chocolate for her kids.

Day 6.
Slept a couple of hours and checked DiA again.
Ms. Ella 23yo was online and sent me a message asked if we could meet. I told her i would be in Harrison Plaza in 30 minutes and that we could meet and have coffee. She was on time!
Had coffee and went to my hotel. Just a short fuck, and sent her off with 1k since she did not play up to her picture in the profile. Colored short red hair, a typical FL.
20 minutes after she left she txted me saying someone stole her bag and she needed money for transport back home. I remembered that she put her phone in the bag, so I did not reply since she used the same number that I had saved in my phone (She contacted me via DiA again two days later wanting to be with me again. I just told her I was busy).

Day 7.
Ms Maria (45yo) arrived actually on day 8 at 0130. She chatted me up in DiA. I have already posted about the miserable meeting earlier.

Day 8.
Ms E2 20yo from Tagged arrive at 1600hrs. I have been chatting with her for a few months already, and she is such a cute young lady, not innocent as she has had a Swedish bf before and new a few Scandinavian words. We had a lot of fun with that and she was up for a meet. One thing about her Tagged profile was that she said: “I have changed, I am a much better girl now than before”. I loved that phrase, since I knew she was a sure thing. Met up at Starbucks in Robinsons Place in Ermita. Seem to be a place many ladies know already. You guys as well, I am sure. I saw what I would describe as a lot of Personal Service Providers hanging there, and one also approached me while I was waiting.
We had coffee there and chatted for a while and then returned to my hotel in a taxi. We took a look at the pool area in case she wanted a nightswim, but soon returned to the room and had a couple of glasses or redwine.
After a two glasses of wine, she said that my redwine was not making her drunk, so I did not hesitate to suggest that we should change to having shots with whiskey (12 yo Famous Grouse if you want to know). A big smile from her and we were at it. She became more and more talkative and touched me often when laughing. I had turned off the aircon for some time and it started to get warm in the room so I suggested we should take a shower before we decide on swimming or not. She easily agreed and when I started to undress, and got undressed, I heard her ”sigh!!!” and her body trembled in anticipation of what to come. I was already nude when I undressed her and her hands could not stay away from touching me and we did not even get to the shower before we were at it. I went down on her and more ”sigh!!’s” and ate her to orgasm in seconds.
I entered her and we fucked for a while and when to change position I noticed a lot of blood on the bed. She got shy saying it should not be here yet, only in May. I could not care less (again) and had her on top, then doggy style to completion.
She said that maybe she started to bleed since she did not have sex since June 2009, and the next day she txted me saying it was back to normal. (?) Wondering if I shall invite her for a nightcap on my last day, since I really enjoyed being with this gem of a young lady. And, sayang, as they say… She is born in October 89, so I have not reached one of my goal of being with a girl born in the 1990’s on this trip. Nevermind, I have in the past. I have a possible prospect born in 1991 for this trip, but she is sort of shy to meet so far.

Day 9.
Out of town and returned late. Just stopped by the EDSA Entertainment Complex for a beer and to see if some friends where there. Wala, so went back to hotel for some sleep before I was to meet a repeater, Ms. L, the 23yo to return on Sunday.

Day 10.
I had invited Ms. L (from Day 3) to return to Manila and she arrived about 5pm. That was a downer. Had one fuck, but she was a tampo lady wanting to use my laptop to play in internet this time. I told her my laptop was in the office, and she asked if I lied, and I said yes, since I wanted her to focus on me, not internet. I let her stay overnight and sent her home after breakfast Monday morning. She sent me a txt a little later saying she was sorry not being able to satisfy me as she “is just a kid” (her words). She is another somewhat innocent lady that dont know much else than the missionary position and it takes a while to train them and it gets boring. From the meeting a week earlier I had higher expectations.
I think the policy from now on will be “no repeaters” unless there is something really special (what I thought about this young lady).

Day 11
I still have a couple of ladies that I would like to test out today, as in meet up with. Both from Tagged.
One asked to be invited for dinner, and the other for coffee (no nasty, she said). I am not sure what they really mean by this, so I continued to chat with them on mobile during Monday to see if they would meet up on my last evening in Manila.
It turned out to be a little troublesome, so I just told them that I had to attend a dinner before leaving. Then they got more eager to meet, but I had already decided see Ms B again, a 25yo lady from DiA that I also met a year ago. She understood from my DiA profile that I was visiting Manila again, and had been sending me small messages saying she was hoping to meet me for some chocolate and allowance, he he he.
Met up at Harrison Plaza about 5pm. Took her back to the hotel. We sat down to chat and she started to undress since she was there for a reason; To get fucked.
Since we already knew each other, she was absolutely not shy about it, and I played her pussy a little before we had a shower, and she was dripping wet. She admitted that she had been like that since she entered the Jeepney, being on her way to see me again. Life is GOOD!!!
We had dinner in the room, and I recall that the lady from room service looked at me with a huge smile, since she had been serving me late night dinners several nights, finding new ladies in my bed each time.

(When sitting in Manila on my last evening (after dinner) I read in the newspaper that the volcano in Iceland was erupting again, now causing a little trouble for Scotland and Ireland. I was hoping that it would touch on Amsterdam so that my flight would be canceled and that KLM would pay for my stay another week. Well well,,, in my dreams. The flight took off on schedule on Day 12 morning, and I was happy. Another week could have caused me more pain than pleasure since I was exhausted already).

I have been home for two weeks now, and I have the well known depression we all feel at times… missing the maganda, mostly playful, pinays, and need vitamin V or C to even think about fucking the old lady. Life sucks, di ba? I really cannot wait to be back in Paradise.
For most senior members of this thread I guess I did not bring anything new to the table, but I hope newbies will find it entertaining and understand that IT IS VERY EASY to hook up and get laid in Manila.

As it has been mentioned in other posts in this thread, I will like to say that I gave all the ladies, except old Maria, some allowance besides covering their fares, and I think that is a minimum we should do for the gorgeous ladies of the Philippines in whatever place they live among the many islands.
They deserve it sooo much, since spending their time with old and ugly foreigners like us.

Jiggy
05-23-10, 12:27
Wow,

I would never have thought that this topic would take off the way that it has.

But reading the posts has highlighted the fact that has not been discussed, and that is, our/your motivation in meeting filipinas.

And that is the key to the whole discussion.

And remember that we are talking about filipinas met via internet dating sites.

Some guys just want to root as many women as possible. OK. As long as they are upfront about it, then OK, and these would probably have the attitude that the filipina should be paid. I guess the statement “pay her to get her to leave” exemplifies this attitude.

Others may be looking for a companion for the medium term, maybe a couple of weeks, while they visit the Phils and travel around a bit. Probably buy her clothes, jewelry, maybe a watch, phone. Should she be paid money as well?

Others, like me, are looking for the special one. I meet and interview a number of women, but my intention is genuine. And in these cases, money is not an issue.

I also set up a number of other meetings, where the mutual intent is heat and play, and I pay them after, always in the form of money for the kids education, or for mama’s medicine etc. because the women have feelings and standards as well.

And there are some who are backups, in the event of an empty bed, and they are paid.

My trips end up as a kind of compromise/conflict of interest. On the one hand, I am looking for miss right, but I also want to have company every night. Sometimes, miss Right does not show, or has mis-represented herself and I make it clear that this will not work. She leaves, and I have an empty bed.

But it cuts both ways.

I thought Miss J1 was just right, tall, thin, intelligent, a warehouse manager. We really hit it off, traveled round, different countries. Then 2 weeks after I had returned home, she sends an email that she has taken a contract in an Arab country, just to prove to herself that she can do it. Still, we keep in touch, met up for her first month vacation, I bought her father a fishing boat to get the family out of the subsistence farming cycle.

I thought Miss M1 was pretty close to what I wanted. We had a lot of time together, including several overseas trips, I put her through two years of school to finish her high school diploma, and I built her a house. After a while, her communications became pretty erratic, and I became suspicious. I found that she had hitched with a local pinoy, sort of de facto husband, had borne a child, and had forgotten to mention it to me. I have cut her out of my will.

I thought Miss M2 was perfect. Wow. Then, a couple of months after I had returned home, she sends an email to say that she had met up with a Korean, she was pregnant, he had left, would I send her more money to pay for her baby.

There are others, of course.

I am putting one through college, one year to go. I am about to pay for Miss A to take a concentrated computer course so she can get a job.

I supported Miss R for 2 years to put her mildly dyslexic daughter through a private school to get her education started. The Miss R started to become a bit erratic in her communications, turns out she had met an Italian, married him, and is now in Italy. And she had 2 other kids that she had forgotten to mention. She was cut out of the will.

Etc, etc..

Why on earth do you want to give these women money for school, boats etc when there is a 99% certainty they are doing the same to other guys desperate for companionship and playing on these insecurities??!??!?!?!?!

It makes no sense at all. And guys here wonder why alot of these pinoy girls think foreigners are stupid, gullible idiots??!?!?

Just fuck them have fun and forget them.

I know of 6 girls who have at least 8 guys sending them money and believing all their buullshit. I've seen the emails they send and can't help but think how incredibly stupid some guys are. These girls actually have competitions to see how much money they can scam from you guys in a week!! Its true. I've seen them do it and laugh all about it!!!

Anyway if guys are going to give money away like this then i would suggest you just take the cash out of a ATM and just burn it

Tally Wacker
05-23-10, 21:20
I'm with Jiggy on this one.

Hey Gangles, Why give that Honest Non-Self Absorbed post of your past relationships and strugges that are so helpful to all the members here? I mean come on Man! Why did you treat those young poverished girls in that foriegn country with kindness and respect? And then when you found out one girl burned you why did you not treat the other one like a F-KING HO that she is? Ha why? Next time kick that F-king Ho in the teeth after you F-k that F-king Ho.

If you would have followed Jiggi's high quality informational post's you would have learned how to F-k them F-king Ho's then toss them F-king Ho's in the dirt like they are used to. All for FREE! After, you can post your acomplishments here ISG and give high fives to your imaginary friends.

If you missed Jiggi's 40 High Quality Post's of F-king HO's for FREE here's a short summary below.

Separated by Category:

* Begging for Info & Kissing Up (Alot of Kissing Up)

* Ignorant & Self-Absorbed

* Attacking Member's Sharing Honest Info. Oh, also Self-Absorbed

* Good Information for other Members

Begging for info & Kissing Up:

Posted By Jiggy

1. Well its disappointing to see there are no mongers here who can pick up a girl with out having to pay her for sex. Looks like I am alone here

2. Looks like no here can get it for free and always has to pay for sex.

3. So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?

Thanks in advance

4. So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?

5. So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?

6. Where exactly is Peyton place?

7. How did you meet these girls? Internet? Are they hookers?

8. Are there any good sex toy/adult shops in Kowloon?

9. Thanks guys. Well if these freebies are availaable at laguna etc. How hard is it to pick up? And if its the maid's day off on Sunday. What time do things get going?

Cheers

10. Thanks guys. Well if these freebies are availaable at laguna etc. How hard is it to pick up? And if its the maid's day off on Sunday. What time do things get going?

Cheers

11. So what would you consider the best bars in Singapore to pick up?

Bar. Lounges, disco's. Clarke Quay or Boat Quay.

Any advice appreciated!

12. So in your expert opinions which bars/clubs are the best ones to goto if you want to pick a a girl and not have to pay for it?

13. Anyone caught an STD from taking girls from Orchard towers?

14. Great pics Tampa! Did she offer anal? Is she Thai and do you know if she is a regular at Ipanema?

Cheers

15. Nice pics! Was she up for anal?

16. I am going to Noumea in 4 weeks and would really appreciate to know which are the best bars, clubs, discoes to visit to pick local girls.

Your answers are much appreciated.

Ignorant & Self Absorbed:

Posted By Jiggy

1. Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend"

Treat them like ho's or s l you t s and they just get off on it

2. No girl is worth $1300!

3. Most ho's need to be told what to do or given some "physical encouragement".

4. Sometimes these girls need to be shown the "proper way" ie deep throat, anal and get used to it quickly if they haven't done it before. If they want the money make them earn it

Attacking Member's Sharing Honest Info. Oh, also Self Absorbed:

Posted By Jiggy

1. Whats Karma got to do with that?!!! Jealous eh?

2. I said that I pay for dinner. I'm providing this info so if you try properly on CB you might be able to score for just the payment of a dinner.

If you can't deal with that well. Blow me

3. What rubbish!

4. Gaijin has no idea what happens in the real world. He wacks off behind a keyboard.

A sad git

5. Get off this website or get on your knees.

Good Information for other Members:

1. Absolutely Nothing to Report Here

Thats just pathetic. Start sharing some helpful information Jiggy and please stop the Kissing Up to the Respected Members. Yea I only have like 7 posts here but I have already posted more helpful information than your 40+ Posts.

I don't think Members wonder why Pinay's think foreigners are stupid idiots. It's self explanitory.

I'm sure it's something you won't understand so I won't bother trying to educate you on treating other human beings with self respect no matter if they are F-king dumb ass F-king HO's as you call them.

Also, stop with the PM messages Jiggy. I don't swing that way and I'm not interested. Although I am flattered.

Cheers Mate


Why on earth do you want to give these women money for school, boats etc when there is a 99% certainty they are doing the same to other guys desperate for companionship and playing on these insecurities?!!!!!

It makes no sense at all. And guys here wonder why alot of these pinoy girls think foreigners are stupid, gullible idiots?!!

Just fuck them have fun and forget them.

I know of 6 girls who have at least 8 guys sending them money and believing all their buullshit. I've seen the emails they send and can't help but think how incredibly stupid some guys are. These girls actually have competitions to see how much money they can scam from you guys in a week! Its true. I've seen them do it and laugh all about it!

Anyway if guys are going to give money away like this then I would suggest you just take the cash out of a ATM and just burn it

White Whale
05-24-10, 06:16
Why on earth do you want to give these women money...

I advice to do full forum seach for Jiggy and then put his comments to a correct perspective. 40 reports starting from May 2005. About free fucks and anal. Mostly questions and negative feedback. Then what I found most disturbing:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362136&postcount=570

What in heaven or hell activated this a-hole here again?

Jiggy
05-24-10, 12:05
I'm with Jiggy on this one.
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Cheers Mate

Tally I would suggest you find a hobby or something to do in your free time. As a newbie you have a lot to learn...............now get on your knees and do what you do best :D

You truly are a legend..............a legend in your own mind LOL

Now get back to the topic here which is chat sites

Jiggy
05-24-10, 12:11
Another Jiggy tip for the ones who like to giveaway alot of money and wonder why they get nothing in return.

Don't bother sending the pinoy ho's you chat with on DIA or CB money for a boat, donkey, kids, dogs, lost wallet, etc..........

Instead of wasting all that money just get them a return air ticket to wherever they live. That way at least if you're going to be "donating" money to the above lost causes then do it in a way by buying an air ticket where
you will get some action from her and it wont be all lost money down the drain.

If you're country is strict with visa's and letting in ho's then fly her to a country that isn't and meet her there and then bang the fuck out of her to get your money's worth ;)

Amjeck
05-24-10, 13:53
Why on earth do you want to give these women money for school, boats etc when there is a 99% certainty they are doing the same to other guys desperate for companionship and playing on these insecurities??!??!?!?!?!

It makes no sense at all. And guys here wonder why alot of these pinoy girls think foreigners are stupid, gullible idiots??!?!?

Just fuck them have fun and forget them.


IMO the only reason to ever give money to women is if it equates to sex. So, if money for school and boats leads to lots of sex (I hope a lot), then it is justified. When you give money, think with your cock not your heart. You will save sooo much money this way!

GregLondon
05-24-10, 14:42
I agree with TW that Jiggy's series of posts with newbie type questions re where to find "free fucks" then 5 minutes later he's regaling us with stores of how he's banging 9 girls without paying a cent blah blah.

His comments re Gangles also demonstrated either a poor grasp of English or lack of understanding.

However it is certainly true that there are plenty of girls and especially LBs on DIA and to a lesser extent CB who see it is a full time occupation to scam mostly Americans out of their cash. I was told these people aimed to make on average 10-40,000P per month compared with a typical wage here of 6000P for a shop girl.

Gangles, story is different because he talking about women who is has had medium term relationships with which he presumably valued. In this context buying a girl's father a small boat to allow him to fish seems to me a perfectly laudable idea. What is Jiggy planning to do with all the cash he has saved by fooling these young girls, donate it to Uncle Sam to finance the next Goldman Sachs bailout??

As to the guys that send money to girls in the Phils without seeing them or just seeing them for a short trip. yes some of them are being scammed, but the smarter ones can have a perfectly reasonable and mutually beneficial arrangement. Many guys (possibly including many of the lurkers on this forum) are living in what amounts to a sexual jail with little prospect of getting out in the immediate future until their kids are through college etc.

For such guys having an online girl friend can add something to their lives. Let's remember that many guys are happy to pay $2-5 per MINUTE to chat / have phone sex with some woman who is more than likely some fat old woman in nebraska with 3 kids. Why not support a 19 year old Philippina through college instead ? Some of the girls I've known have had such support, and in my view really earned the money they were sent through endless cam shows and patiently listening to boring conversation or less than skilful phone sex etc .

Tally Wacker
05-24-10, 18:52
Post's like Gangles where he just spills it all out in an honest way for others to read, sympathize with and laugh a little at should be encouraged on this site. The entertainment value is great too! I'm sure other members and lurkers have stories relating to being conned or lied to that they are holding back as to not be belittled and put down by immature members here.

Who cares if someone throws their money away or pay's too much for sex? I mean do you really think that with the sea of young hot poverished girls in Phil that paying 1000 vs. 500 for sex is going to drive up the prices overall?

I don’t think the economy in Phil is going to change anytime soon and they continue to pop out kids like Rabbits so the scenario of a girl giving it up for a free meal or at a bargain price will continue for years to come.

The cost of a Filipina that decides to fuck a foreigner for money to pay her rent, sister’s school, buy a new pair of fancy shoes or whatever may cost a few more Peso’s in years to come but is it really a big deal? The worst that can happen is that a Monger years from now will be complaining that his Grandfather is the one who over paid the F-king HO’s and drove up the price. Now it cost him 1500P and it used to be 1000P a hundred yrs ago. What’s that like 10 bucks US?

I’m all for getting a good deal even when it comes to getting laid. The out of pocket expense will always fall on your looks, how you dress and handle yourself, your negotiating skills and your research. Some guys have all that going for them and will still pay more than the going rate either out of compassion for the F-king Ho or they just don’t give a shit if they pay $10 more than they should have. And there will always be those idiot’s (hi jiggy) who don’t not have the looks or skills and relate to begging for info, refer to women as F-king HO’s and treat them like shit and then go around bragging about their accomplishments.

……………………………………………………………………………………………

Jiggy so now your paying for airline tickets for your F-king HO’s??? That's a big step up from a cup of coffee. Or are you just making a terrible attempt at not looking like an Idiot?? It’s pretty obvious your not the smartest guy around. I mean your getting pushed around on a Sex Site. Need I say more?



Instead of wasting all that money just get them a return air ticket to wherever they live. That way at least if you're going to be "donating" money to the above lost causes then do it in a way by buying an air ticket where
you will get some action from her and it wont be all lost money down the drain.

If you're country is strict with visa's and letting in ho's then fly her to a country that isn't and meet her there and then bang the fuck out of her to get your money's worth.
Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)

Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up

My new hobby is making fun of you jiggy. Its getting rather easy with all the help your giving me :)


Tally I would suggest you find a hobby or something to do in your free time. As a newbie you have a lot to learn...............now get on your knees and do what you do best :D

You truly are a legend..............a legend in your own mind LOL

Now get back to the topic here which is chat sites

The Departed
05-24-10, 18:56
Let's remember that many guys are happy to pay $2-5 per MINUTE to chat / have phone sex with some woman who is more than likely some fat old woman in nebraska with 3 kids. Why not support a 19 year old Philippina through college instead ? Some of the girls I've known have had such support, and in my view really earned the money they were sent through endless cam shows and patiently listening to boring conversation or less than skilful phone sex etc .Good points Greg. I have been checking out DIA etc for Muslim chicks and chicks living in Muslim areas. I even tapped up one from the Sulu Islands. My plan is to plant my French Flag firmly between their thighs and to claim it as Nouvelle-France. I have found in other countries that Muslim women give the best blow jobs. Now it is the turn of the good Muslims of Mindnaao.

Has anybody had any luck there?

Slighlty off topic but I had intended to go with Les Bleus to the World Cup. I had intended to go (in search of dark and Indian pussy). But, what with Algeria being allowed play and the bad organising, I predict a disaster. Better the Pinay pussy we know that the African disaster we prefer not to know.

GregLondon
05-25-10, 02:49
Good points Greg. I have been checking out DIA etc for Muslim chicks and chicks living in Muslim areas. I even tapped up one from the Sulu Islands. My plan is to plant my French Flag firmly between their thighs and to claim it as Nouvelle-France. I have found in other countries that Muslim women give the best blow jobs. Now it is the turn of the good Muslims of Mindnaao.

Has anybody had any luck there?

Slighlty off topic but I had intended to go with Les Bleus to the World Cup. I had intended to go (in search of dark and Indian pussy). But, what with Algeria being allowed play and the bad organising, I predict a disaster. Better the Pinay pussy we know that the African disaster we prefer not to know.

Mindinao as a whole is fine. Because of the bad publicity there are perhaps only 10% of the foreigners that you might see in Cbu or Luzon. But thast can cut both ways. On the one hand the ratios are good, on the other hand the girls are in general more conservative maybe because they havent seen so many foreigners. If you are just looking for a few girls you should be fine, but if you are looking for 2 or 3 different girls every day you will have better chances in Cebu. You are right that muslim women can indeed be very passionate, but remember that in most of Mindanao they are still a small minority and the areas that they are more dense are probably not so safe.

I think there is a distinction between countries suich as the phils where muslims are a minority and countries such as Indonesia where they are a more confident majority.

Re Africa, I agree there is for sure a decent chance that things will get ugly. Besides Les Bleus had to cheat to get into the finals in any case LOL
In general Africa is a great place for mongering. Though the typical African girl is less to my taste than Asian girls, the numbers and availability are such that its possible to find some very cute girls to suit most tastes. South Africa however would be pretty low down on my list of African destinations for sex. The fact is that its one of the most dangerous countries to visit, and espcially stepping out from the beaten path after dusk. You wil have much better luck in "Black African" countries.

Jiggy
05-25-10, 11:42
Mindinao as a whole is fine. Because of the bad publicity there are perhaps only 10% of the foreigners that you might see in Cbu or Luzon. But thast can cut both ways. On the one hand the ratios are good, on the other hand the girls are in general more conservative maybe because they havent seen so many foreigners. If you are just looking for a few girls you should be fine, but if you are looking for 2 or 3 different girls every day you will have better chances in Cebu. You are right that muslim women can indeed be very passionate, but remember that in most of Mindanao they are still a small minority and the areas that they are more dense are probably not so safe.

I think there is a distinction between countries suich as the phils where muslims are a minority and countries such as Indonesia where they are a more confident majority.

Re Africa, I agree there is for sure a decent chance that things will get ugly. Besides Les Bleus had to cheat to get into the finals in any case LOL
In general Africa is a great place for mongering. Though the typical African girl is less to my taste than Asian girls, the numbers and availability are such that its possible to find some very cute girls to suit most tastes. South Africa however would be pretty low down on my list of African destinations for sex. The fact is that its one of the most dangerous countries to visit, and espcially stepping out from the beaten path after dusk. You wil have much better luck in "Black African" countries.

Jakarta is a great place for mongering and picking up freebies there too. Lots of girls looking for a good time ;)

Gangles
05-26-10, 14:49
Tally Wacker refers to every woman who has sex as a Ho. Or maybe it is just every woman who has sex with a foreigner.

I think that this colours his judgement, and puts him is a condition where he can not see that the vast majority of filipina are no Ho's, but just ordinary women who like sex.

What is the difference between that and western women who like sex but are not paid for it?

My daughter is as good a case in point as any other. She is single, stunningly attractive, does not have a regular bf right now, and has a root whenever she needs it, just calls one of her smallish group of friends.

In Tally Wacker's judgement, that might make her a Ho.

But the great majority of unattached women in Australia are probably much the same.

And I must say, that of the regular filipinas who I have met, and made love with, none are Ho's, very few ask for money at all, or even indicate that it is expected. And I suspect that many would be insulted if I offered it. They are employed, independent, and well able to support themselves. Some of the guys here have met some of them, and know what I am talking about.

I know a number of filipino families, all are regular people, no Ho's among them. I know a number of single women who could never be classed as Ho's.

So I think that TW should revise his attitude to filipinas as a whole.

As a side issue, there are more prostitutes per head of population in Australia than in any country in SE Asia. And that excludes phone sex, lap dances etc. In Australia you can get commercial sex any time, day or night, any kind, hetero, homo, little boys, little girls. Every newspaper in Australia has daily advertisements by Ho's advertising their services. The biggest sex tour in the world is in Australia, it is called the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and it is supported by government.

There are 400,000 registered prostitutes in germany.

Commercial sex in SE Asia pales into insignificance compared with western countries.

For your consideration.

G

Cunning Stunt
05-26-10, 21:53
I think that this colours his judgement

Haha ... might not the only thing! Could it be that Wally Tacker could just be the reincarnation of a dead parrot ...RIP. Funny that he joined ISG a couple of days after the said deceased parrot croaked out his last strangulated squawk and it sure does sound like him.

Anyways. in case I am just being paranoic, here's a photo that I'm sure TW will appreciate most surely;).

ManonsanBoy
05-26-10, 22:06
Commercial sex in SE Asia pales into insignificance compared with western countries.

For your consideration.

G

Agreed with much of your comments but this one is hard to agree with. Maybe the word "official" should be inserted. The sex scene is SE Asia is massive due to poverty.

Tally Wacker
05-27-10, 13:44
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Towelboy2010
05-28-10, 05:27
1. I am actually still on the dating sites trying to find Miss Right. In addition to Miss Right, I have been known to philander with Miss Wrong while I am in the Phils. I mean it is a long trip there from PA and I need to get value from my travel dollar.

2. I have concentrated on Cherry Blossoms because there seems to be more legitimate (ha ha in the Phils) girls on that site.

3. My CB Profile clearly says "Smiles will be deleted".

4. And yet i continue to get a few smiles every other day.

5. After reading a few weeks of suggestions on how to let girls know you are only there for passion and not a wife, I decided to try that tact with cute girls who sent me smiles.

6. Yesterday Imelda sent me a smile & I replied with this line I stole from the forum. Thanks to whomever wrote this.

7. You sent me a smile. Hmmmmm. I am not seeking a serious GF at this time, but rather some 'romance, physical passion and intimate friendship during my visit there. However, I am open to meeting the gal of my dreams here who will sweep me off my feet'. Would you be interested to meet when I am there in September?

8. Her reply....i see,..i would love too but i am not so sure if i'm with you at the hotel if you were here.

OK, how should I respond to this and other similar replies? Of course I want her at my hotel...lol.

Thanks, Bob

GregLondon
05-28-10, 07:42
1. I am actually still on the dating sites trying to find Miss Right. In addition to Miss Right, I have been known to philander with Miss Wrong while I am in the Phils. I mean it is a long trip there from PA and I need to get value from my travel dollar.

2. I have concentrated on Cherry Blossoms because there seems to be more legitimate (ha ha in the Phils) girls on that site.

3. My CB Profile clearly says "Smiles will be deleted".

4. And yet i continue to get a few smiles every other day.

5. After reading a few weeks of suggestions on how to let girls know you are only there for passion and not a wife, I decided to try that tact with cute girls who sent me smiles.

6. Yesterday Imelda sent me a smile & I replied with this line I stole from the forum. Thanks to whomever wrote this.

7. You sent me a smile. Hmmmmm. I am not seeking a serious GF at this time, but rather some 'romance, physical passion and intimate friendship during my visit there. However, I am open to meeting the gal of my dreams here who will sweep me off my feet'. Would you be interested to meet when I am there in September?

8. Her reply....i see,..i would love too but i am not so sure if i'm with you at the hotel if you were here.

OK, how should I respond to this and other similar replies? Of course I want her at my hotel...lol.

Thanks, Bob

i wouldn't read too much into the smiles/message distinction. The fact is that only maybe 10-20% of guys write anything meaningful or honest in their profile. Therefore its not an unreasonable strategy for the girls to just browse the profiles and send a message to whoever seems vaguely plausible.

Your message seems a bit too sophisticated for 90% of CB girls to understand properly, unless you are only interested in college girls.

For the "fun girls" I think you can say "Sorry I'm looking for a girl who is open minded about sex and willing to stay with me at my hotel. Do you think that is possible for you? " This will put off some girls but there will certainly be enough to keep you busy. The name of the game is to not waste an inordinate amount of time chasing girls who wil not give you what you want.

Manta Ray
05-28-10, 10:40
After a few days of messaging and texting, I arranged to meet up with a DIA gal two nights ago. Fairly generic profile, early-mid twenties, 'some college' completed, no occupation, the usual.

So we arrange to meet at A Venue on Makati ave at 8pm, with her coming from J.P. Rizal, not far away. As per my many experiences with DIA and non-DIA gals alike, I'm feeling fairly relaxed about time management.

Therefore I am slightly surprised when at 6:30 I get a text from her saying, 'I'm getting ready now.' And at 7:25 my surprise is upgraded to active anticipation when when I get another text saying 'I am waiting for a taxi now.' Hmmm, 'interesting', thinks I. Then, anticipation swings wildly toward panic, when at 7:45 I get yet another text saying, 'in taxi now be there in 5 mins.

Shit, so much for relaxed time management as I quickly shift gears and I jump into the shower, throw on some clothes, splash on some cologne, grab the essentials and fly out the door for the 15 minute walk to our rendez-vous.

Now it's 7:57, and I'm hustling down Kalayaan, a few minutes from there, wondering how it is that I am actually breaking a sweat to get to a date with a filipina. The the the phone goes off to signal another text, which I read with dread... 'My god ur late, i'm here now, where r u.'

I look at my watch, see that it is 7:59, and figure that if I sprint I can just make it. I race up Makati ave, cross the street, whiz past Mercury Drug, and stop just short of A Venue to catch my breath, wipe my brow, and slowly saunter through the front door.

There she is, with her back toward me, long, silky black hair, shiny tight blouse, short skirt. I paste a casual smile on my face, sit down across from her, stick out my right hand, and say, 'Hi, nice to meet you, I'm...' She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'

I think fast but my mind is blank as this is a dating first for me in Manila. After a pregnant pause, I just give her my best smile and say, 'Wow, our first lovers quarrel. You're beautiful when you're angry. Let's just skip dinner and go have some hot make up sex so we can be friends again.'

With that she bursts out laughing and all is saved. We have a nice date, and she ends up leaving my place at 11 the next morning--as friends.

Manta Ray

Red Kilt
05-28-10, 10:45
.........
3. My CB Profile clearly says "Smiles will be deleted".

4. And yet i continue to get a few smiles every other day.


My profile on DIA is very explicit. Amongst a few statements about how I am NOT looking for a wife or a serious relationship I also say nobody under 28; you need to be 160 cm or more; no smokers (even social smokers). My mistake is that my profile starts off with "I am a foreigner who...."

So what do I get? Lots of short teeners or early twenties, many girls who smoke, and all with profiles that say they want a genuine serious guy looking for a wife. It proves to me that most girls read the first 3 words of a profile (if that!) and immediately fire off a "Hi" or a "Hello" and that's all. I now have a standard reply that suggests they should read profiles before they send out blanket "Hellos" that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off thoughtful guys like me LOL.

BTW, I also get the gems who read my profile right through, understand exactly what I am looking for, and send me a sensible, long reply that makes me want to reply. I am really reiterating the other tips on this thread suggesting that if you are very explicit in what you want, the worthwhile girls will be there in amongst the dross.

Red Kilt
05-28-10, 10:55
......... There she is, with her back toward me, long, silky black hair, shiny tight blouse, short skirt. I paste a smile on my face, sit down across from her, stick out my right hand, and say, Hi, nice to meet you, I'm...' She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'
............

Manta - that story is so extraordinary. If I didn't know you and know that you never tell lies I would have to challenge the veracity of your account.
That has got to be a first.
I thought that the international genome-mapping program was going to find that filipinas are genetically programmed to be at least 15 minutes late (usually much more) for everything.
She seems like a keeper to me - definitely unique.
Was it time well spent? Are you going to try a repeat and see if it was a one-off punctual event LOL?

Manta Ray
05-28-10, 11:25
Manta - that story is so extraordinary. If I didn't know you and know that you never tell lies I would have to challenge the veracity of your account.
That has got to be a first.
I thought that the international genome-mapping program was going to find that filipinas are genetically programmed to be at least 15 minutes late (usually much more) for everything.
She seems like a keeper to me - definitely unique.
Was it time well spent? Are you going to try a repeat and see if it was a one-off punctual event LOL?

Yep, RK, absolutely true! But alas, though I must award her an A+ for her time management skills, her grade for the more importantly weighted bed skills, will receive, at best a C+. In other words, I was willing to break a bigger sweat getting to her earlier in the evening, than she was willing to break cumming to me later on!

MR

WestCoast1
05-28-10, 14:32
After a few days of messaging and texting, I arranged to meet up with a DIA gal two nights ago. Fairly generic profile, early-mid twenties, 'some college' completed, no occupation, the usual.

So we arrange to meet at A Venue on Makati ave at 8pm, with her coming from J.P. Rizal, not far away. As per my many experiences with DIA and non-DIA gals alike, I'm feeling fairly relaxed about time management.

Therefore I am slightly surprised when at 6:30 I get a text from her saying, 'I'm getting ready now.' And at 7:25 my surprise is upgraded to active anticipation when when I get another text saying 'I am waiting for a taxi now.' Hmmm, 'interesting', thinks I. Then, anticipation swings wildly toward panic, when at 7:45 I get yet another text saying, 'in taxi now be there in 5 mins.

Shit, so much for relaxed time management as I quickly shift gears and I jump into the shower, throw on some clothes, splash on some cologne, grab the essentials and fly out the door for the 15 minute walk to our rendez-vous.

Now it's 7:57, and I'm hustling down Kalayaan, a few minutes from there, wondering how it is that I am actually breaking a sweat to get to a date with a filipina. The the the phone goes off to signal another text, which I read with dread... 'My god ur late, i'm here now, where r u.'

I look at my watch, see that it is 7:59, and figure that if I sprint I can just make it. I race up Makati ave, cross the street, whiz past Mercury Drug, and stop just short of A Venue to catch my breath, wipe my brow, and slowly saunter through the front door.

There she is, with her back toward me, long, silky black hair, shiny tight blouse, short skirt. I paste a casual smile on my face, sit down across from her, stick out my right hand, and say, 'Hi, nice to meet you, I'm...' She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'

I think fast but my mind is blank as this is a dating first for me in Manila. After a pregnant pause, I just give her my best smile and say, 'Wow, our first lovers quarrel. You're beautiful when you're angry. Let's just skip dinner and go have some hot make up sex so we can be friends again.'

With that she bursts out laughing and all is saved. We have a nice date, and she ends up leaving my place at 11 the next morning--as friends.

Manta RayGreat Stuff Manta!

Towelboy2010
05-28-10, 22:30
I'm feeling fairly relaxed about time management.

Now it's 7:57, and I'm hustling down Kalayaan, a few minutes from there, wondering how it is that I am actually breaking a sweat to get to a date with a filipina.
She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'



I love this girl already. Introduce me...lol.

Thanks for the entertaining story.

Bob

Towelboy2010
05-28-10, 22:41
It proves to me that most girls read the first 3 words of a profile (if that!) and immediately fire off a "Hi" or a "Hello" and that's all. I now have a standard reply that suggests they should read profiles before they send out blanket "Hellos" that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off thoughtful guys like me LOL.


I tried a different tact. This is the last paragraph of my profile text - which is a long as they allow by character count.

To assure you took the time & interest to read my profile, start your message with the phrase "I like football too".
If I do not see this phrase I will assume you did not take a minute to get to know me & just delete the message.
SMILES are lazy & will be deleted.

VERY OCASSIONALLY, I get a reply like this....Robert, "I like football too". It's great to read a profile as straight forward as yours and I truly agree with you.

I even got this one once which was cute...i read your profile just right after i have sent you my first message and should i be sorry that i did not started with the "i like football too" phrase?.. Von.

I have to agree with you 100%. It is clear to me that very few women actually take the time to read a profile.
But it does help sift the wheat from the chaff when you are a serious marriage minded looker.

Thanks, Bob

Gangles
05-29-10, 16:42
My profile is quite long, and detailed as to what I want.

Like others here, I get a bunch of ladies who make contact without reading the profile, but I think that about half do read it, because I get comments about - you want 5'4" or taller, and I am...

And I also tend to send long emails.

I actually think that many women do not have the education or concentration to read long messages.

I have also found that if I put two questions in one message, it is rearely that both are answered, so now I ask oly one question per message. That works OK.

So my longer profile acts as a kind of filter for more intelligent women, which is what I am looking for.

G

Amavida
05-30-10, 01:04
My profile is quite long, and detailed as to what I want.

Like others here, I get a bunch of ladies who make contact without reading the profile, but I think that about half do read it, because I get comments about - you want 5'4" or taller, and I am...

And I also tend to send long emails.

I actually think that many women do not have the education or concentration to read long messages.

I have also found that if I put two questions in one message, it is rearely that both are answered, so now I ask oly one question per message. That works OK.

So my longer profile acts as a kind of filter for more intelligent women, which is what I am looking for.

GYep G I do the same, despite my irritation I have found I must keep my txt's dead simple. Otherwise I find I'm repeating questions/info that never gets answered/comprehended by pinay's. They're not dumb, it's just their style. They live in a social whirl of constant txt'ing (often juggling multiple bf's).

AV

Amavida
05-30-10, 01:19
My profile is quite long, and detailed as to what I want.

Like others here, I get a bunch of ladies who make contact without reading the profile, but I think that about half do read it, because I get comments about - you want 5'4" or taller, and I am...

And I also tend to send long emails.

I actually think that many women do not have the education or concentration to read long messages.

I have also found that if I put two questions in one message, it is rearely that both are answered, so now I ask oly one question per message. That works OK.

So my longer profile acts as a kind of filter for more intelligent women, which is what I am looking for.

GI do the opposite & have very few words. I know where you're coming from though G, talking to poor chicks gets boring fast. The poor chicks on the dating sites have very narrow life experience. If you are after more intelligent girls you need to get off the dating sites & get yourself introduced to the daughters of better off families or girls with good jobs.

Avoid becoming a just an ATM machine to the poverty stricken.

Of course keep in mind many of the wealthy Filipino's are extremely spoiled & childish (often dangerously so).

Opportunity abounds. One of my dentists is a chick. Slender, intelligent, well off compared to the usual - she invited herself into my bed.

A female GP I visited, same thing.

A police senior inspector at Camp Crame (married with 4 kid's if you please) - same.

Accounants, Lawyers, pharmacists etc etc done them all.

College girls on the make are common, some are intelligent women (most are dumb shits just fucking their way through school).

AV

KongKing
05-31-10, 06:05
This DateInAsia lass [carmenconsigo] says "I'm just a lying prostitute", but perhaps s/he is being very honest!

hey, i'm just a lying prostitute. been caught now.

i agreed to hide my profile but i dont.. i keep trying to get money from stupid kanos.. my bf dont realize i am here doing this.. hehe... (wink wink)

so i will get money from him.. and from you.. lol. so please, please.. send me money for school.. er.. umm.. i mean my sick mom... yes she is dead now and we cant bury her.. and my brother has accident and needs dental appointment.. lol

oh and since you are generous... can i have a littel extra "allowance" to go do some partying with my frens.. haha...
http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=875c1c00-c910-43d5-b0f8-0ec9324a65f6

GregLondon
05-31-10, 07:25
This DateInAsia lass [carmenconsigo] says "I'm just a lying prostitute", but perhaps she is being very honest!

hey, i'm just a lying prostitute. been caught now.

i agreed to hide my profile but i dont.. i keep trying to get money from stupid kanos.. my bf dont realize i am here doing this.. hehe... (wink wink)

so i will get money from him.. and from you.. lol. so please, please.. send me money for school.. er.. umm.. i mean my sick mom... yes she is dead now and we cant bury her.. and my brother has accident and needs dental appointment.. lol

oh and since you are generous... can i have a littel extra "allowance" to go do some partying with my frens.. haha...
http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=875c1c00-c910-43d5-b0f8-0ec9324a65f6


Some guys are very petty and take great efforts to destroy the reputation of girls they rightly or wrongly feel crossed by. Maybe the guy who got this girl's password or more likely just set up a new account with her photo has a legitimate grievance maybe he is just another jealous psycho, in any case this kind of thing is in my view a rather childish way of dealing with the problem.

Jiggy
05-31-10, 12:22
There are some great profiles on DIA and some smoking hot women too...............CB has quite a few too

GregLondon
05-31-10, 12:35
There are some great profiles on DIA and some smoking hot women too...............CB has quite a few too

Interesting....

Not only that: There is a rumour going around that the Pope is a Catholic as well !

Escort Fan
05-31-10, 18:37
There are some great profiles on DIA and some smoking hot women too...............CB has quite a few tooI've just begun on CB. I've had maybe 100 girls sending me a smile msg or an email, but they range from ugly to average.

I assume the top tier one, got enough requests so they don't need to msg plonkers who are trying to score, and instead wait for plonkers to msg her and make her pick. Am I right?

Red Kilt
06-01-10, 05:18
I assume the top tier one, got enough requests so they don't need to msg plonkers who are trying to score, and instead wait for plonkers to msg her and make her pick. Am I right?

Yes correct, especially on DIA.
Many of the smart girls know that they just need to reveal a bit of cleavage to hook plenty of "hits"; then they just trawl through the hits and pick and choose.
Some of course just send a message to everyone who visits their account and play the odds that way.

GregLondon
06-01-10, 08:27
I've just begun on CB. I've had maybe 100 girls sending me a smile msg or an email, but they range from ugly to average.

I assume the top tier one, got enough requests so they don't need to msg plonkers who are trying to score, and instead wait for plonkers to msg her and make her pick. Am I right?

Yes its actually not easy for high quality real girls to use DIA/CB proactively.

The point is that if you are a good looking real girl the key question is "will this guy be coming to my city soon." And there is no way to search for that. If they search for say Cebu they will just get the Pinoy boys plus the expats who they are usually not so interested in. If they search for say 40 something guys from the US on DIA most of the hits will be guys planning a trip to Thailand or China so thye just have to set out their stall and see who finds them.

Of course the scammers/cam girls are not interested in the guys who are really coming they are just interested in finding lonely guys who want to chat. The older girls/ chubsters /single mums etc can't afford to just wait for people to find them as they wil get few hits so have no choice but being proactive.

Toronto
06-02-10, 04:11
I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.

Tally Wacker
06-02-10, 04:46
No its not a scam trust me on this one. Been there done that. You need to get on the next plane as fast as you can and go where your heart takes you. This could be a once in a life time expierience. Make sure to report back to us here on ISG about your trip of a lifetime. Goodluck!


I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.

Jiggy
06-02-10, 12:46
I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.

Hi Dude

I would be very cautious on this one..............IF you are going over there anyway then sure meet up if you want but make sure you find out BEFORE you meet them what they want. Another scam doing the rounds is posting pics of other hot babes pretending to be themselves.

Toronto
06-02-10, 12:53
Hi Dude

I would be very cautious on this one..............IF you are going over there anyway then sure meet up if you want but make sure you find out BEFORE you meet them what they want. Another scam doing the rounds is posting pics of other hot babes pretending to be themselves.

I'm thinking too it has to be scam, I was just surprised since I signed up only for my next trip to the PI. I won't even bother replying to these smiles since they are nowhere near where I would go as a tourist.

Tally Wacker, dude there is no need for sarcastic answers. I was just trying to figure out if CB was mostly legit or full of scammers.

Amavida
06-02-10, 16:20
This DateInAsia lass [carmenconsigo] says "I'm just a lying prostitute", but perhaps s/he is being very honest!

hey, i'm just a lying prostitute. been caught now.

i agreed to hide my profile but i dont.. i keep trying to get money from stupid kanos.. my bf dont realize i am here doing this.. hehe... (wink wink)

so i will get money from him.. and from you.. lol. so please, please.. send me money for school.. er.. umm.. i mean my sick mom... yes she is dead now and we cant bury her.. and my brother has accident and needs dental appointment.. lol

oh and since you are generous... can i have a littel extra "allowance" to go do some partying with my frens.. haha...
http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=875c1c00-c910-43d5-b0f8-0ec9324a65f6Its a jilted boyfriend posting as her most likely. If you ever try logging on as a girl on these sites its amazing how many abusive messages you will see from guys who have been burned & now compound what total losers they are by doing this.

AV

Bob Bowie
06-02-10, 19:07
I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.
I always wait a day or so to respond to new members. Most of the scammers
have been kicked off the site by then.
99% of the Russian ladies are scammers.
CB does the best job of sorting out the beggers and ladyboys.

Cuba Tourist
06-07-10, 05:51
GORGEOUS18 on DIA writes---

ATTENTION: SEXY DOESN'T MEAN SEXUAL

I am NOT looking for LUST adventures.... I want to connect with you physically, emotionally, and intellectually.

X Man
06-07-10, 13:53
Logging on as a "girl"? WHat a thought. I've never logged on as a woman, nor a "girl". Should I buy some panty hose to get in the mood?


Its a jilted boyfriend posting as her most likely. If you ever try logging on as a girl on these sites its amazing how many abusive messages you will see from guys who have been burned & now compound what total losers they are by doing this.

AV

DoingOurDuty
06-07-10, 16:06
Hello, Gents,

I am new here and planning my first trip to the Philippines. Initially I was considering a foreign bride (and that is still in the back of my mind) but first and foremost I want to relax and have an enjoyable vacation while dating a few girls to see my level of sexual and romantic interest. In the USA I've never dated a woman more than 5 or 6 years younger (not counting the brief relationship I had with the super hot 23 year old topless dancer 7 years ago half my age) and I've never dated any asian woman. I'm in my mid 50's tall lean and athletic and not bad looking for an old guy and I hope my smile and blue eyes help my efforts. The major attraction to asian women initially is their cultural preference for older men. I'm not looking for quantity but quality and if I ever did get serious with a girl here she would have to be taller than average, very petite and slim, hae a pretty face, with a super sexy pair of tits (I'm sure I'm not alone here with these preferences). I don't intend to mislead any girls I meet and I'm not on a quest to see how much sex I can get for free.

I plan on meeting girls in the course of site-seeing and browsing the malls in a major city although I just joined DIA and CB to see what those sites are all about. I'm savvy about scamming and will also use the internet and cell phone to meet attractive women during my travels. I'm thinking about taking 7 to 14 days to visit beginning as early as mid July although this could be delayed based several things and in that case postponed to later this year or early next year. I have not decided where I will go yet although Davao and Cebu City are high on my list. I read in this thread (or somewhere in ISG) that there may be taller women in Iligan; but I'm doubtful despite wanting to believe there must be a region of Philippines where a gene pool exists to make such a claim true (I think the poster also said that in addition to being taller they had bigger breasts too; now that really is too good to be true!). I think it's doubtful but I want to believe!

Any thoughts or suggestions anyone can offer are appreciated (like where do we find the taller women?!) or any travel tips from the experienced travelers here are most welcomed. I enjoy ISG and find the information here invaluable for a would-be traveler like myself as I plan my first trip. I found this thread after joining the internet dating websites and have enjoyed reading posts here as well as a few other threads. I'll stay in touch and post a report of my travels sometime after the fact. Good to be here good to be in good company.

Cheers

DoingOurDuty
06-07-10, 16:45
As far as I know I can't do a search on DIA or CB specifying height-range and city and also include the option of finding only those girls currently online.

That's very disappointing! Have I missed something? Anyone found a way to do this? TIA for any help you can offer.

WestCoast1
06-08-10, 04:31
As far as I know I can't do a search on DIA or CB specifying height-range and city and also include the option of finding only those girls currently online.

That's very disappointing! Have I missed something? Anyone found a way to do this? TIA for any help you can offer.On Date In Asia, when doing a search, right next to the country drop-down box, there is a place to enter the city name. No way to search on height, weight, etc

Red Kilt
06-08-10, 05:12
..........
I'm not looking for quantity but quality and if I ever did get serious with a girl here she would have to be taller than average, very petite and slim, hae a pretty face, with a super sexy pair of tits (I'm sure I'm not alone here with these preferences). I don't intend to mislead any girls I meet and I'm not on a quest to see how much sex I can get for free.

.........
Any thoughts or suggestions anyone can offer are appreciated (like where do we find the taller women?!) or any travel tips from the experienced travelers here are most welcomed. ................


You have the right attitude in that you are just here to relax, have a look around and see what you can find. The best opportunities will pop up when you least expect it.
There is no area in the PI where women are taller or have bigger boobs. A tall filipina is a 5ft 6 ins one, and who then wears high heels. It is very hit or miss on the dating sites too, as many women just guess on their heights and have no idea of their real height. (I met a woman who said she was 5ft5ins and turned out to be barely 5ft - she just guessed her size).
In all seriousness, if you really do want tall, full-bodied women then you should take a trip to Mongolia. I have just returned from there and the women are absolutely stunning. Tall, model-like, beautifully dressed, full bodied, and horny as hell too LOL.

FreebieFan
06-08-10, 05:20
You have the right attitude in that you are just here to relax, have a look around and see what you can find. The best opportunities will pop up when you least expect it.

There is no area in the PI where women are taller or have bigger boobs. A tall filipina is a 5ft 6 ins one, and who then wears high heels. It is very hit or miss on the dating sites too, as many women just guess on their heights and have no idea of their real height. (I met a woman who said she was 5ft5ins and turned out to be barely 5ft. She just guessed her size).

In all seriousness, if you really do want tall, full-bodied women then you should take a trip to Mongolia. I have just returned from there and the women are absolutely stunning. Tall, model-like, beautifully dressed, full bodied, and horny as hell too LOL.Qingdao also has some fine specimens, who generally seem taller than most Chinese girls. The same long hair, porcelain white skin, and boobs of all size and shape. Also highly recommended for a trip! Best part is theres not that many white guys around spoiling /despoiling the place.

Wicked Roger
06-08-10, 06:02
Hello, Gents,

I'm in my mid 50's tall lean and athletic and not bad looking for an old guy and I hope my smile and blue eyes help my efforts. The major attraction to asian women initially is their cultural preference for older men.

I have not decided where I will go yet although Davao and Cebu City are high on my list.


Cheers

When you arrive in Manila you will take the Brad Pitt pill that I and many others take...you will very gwapo and will have many girls more than half your age want to rock your boat.....My fav girl is way more than half my age and sees nothing wrong in dating a man older than her father....

As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match forguys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging :D

I personally prefer Cebu and Davao, really like Cebuanas and Davao has a lot of regular girls. Both have lots of universities and nursing schools so plenty of chances...

Take your time, as to quote my good mate Groin Strain "am in lust already" ...and he was only at the arrivals baggage claim :)

Takes everyone time to figure out the scammers - some are not so blindingly obvious trust me - and take your time with a girl especially if you have an idea to marry her. Meet the family, see if she asks for cash immediately, lots of stories on the Board about the pitfalls etc.

Have fun...PM me, let me know when you are there as if I am I like to meet ISG guys, some dont but I do and have made some excellent friends through the Board.

Red Kilt
06-08-10, 08:23
........

As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match for guys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging ...................

Have fun...PM me, let me know when you are there as if I am I like to meet ISG guys, some dont but I do and have made some excellent friends through the Board.

WRs girl looked unbelievable in the 5 inch heels and the short, tight, sexy black dress. It does something magic to their figures LOL - makes the butt gyrate in glorous ways, and watching her walk gave me a fantasy of the same gyrations in the bed too.
(excuse me while I wipe the slobber off the keyboard).

I agree with WR on everything he said about destinations, about taking it slow and easy, and watching for scams too. Get yourself off to Cebu and Davao as well as Manila.
PM me when you are here as I live in Manila. I am always happy to meet any of the ISG brethren. So far 4/4 have turned out to be cool guys so you can be #5.
Good luck

FreebieFan
06-08-10, 08:49
As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match forguys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging :D.Hello, WR! I'm taking my Indonesian student friend (whos still 21!) on a business trip with me next week, and thanks to a kindly shoe store here, shes about to get another pair of 5 inchers. Black, with straps and studs and I can already imagine her in those and the black stockings and very little else.

An Asian girl in High Heels. Can't be beaten!

WestCoast1
06-08-10, 19:20
Jeez, its just too easy.

A chat from a CB lady in ozamiz. Her profile says shes looking for hubby only, don't bother to contact her otherwise. 40, attractive, kids. Yet quickly in first chat, to my bad-boy profile (i'm looking for fun only):


her: as you know am seriouily looking for a lifetime partner but doesnt mena am not open to a friendship
ME: friendship then
her: yeah i can show you arround if you want to coem and see philippies
her: theres a lot of nice beaches here
ME: whats ur fave beach there
her: only dakak but theres a nicer in bohol and in palawan ,,also the popular boracay island
ME: im only looking for fun hun. Some beer, live band, lovemaking and beach there
her: ok it fine to me. yes we have a beachesFrom a 29-year-old hottie in Bacolad, similar:


ME: did u read my profile?
Bacoladchick: ya
ME: what u looking for
Bacoladchick: my soulmate hes willing to meet me here marry me
ME: then were not compatible
Bacoladchick: well are u coming
ME: ya im coming to filipines but not interested in marrying
Bacoladchick: what u want then
ME: only some good times going to the bar listenting to a band, maybe some travel, some lovemaking, going to the beach if its near, seeing some movies
Bacoladchick: ok
Long pause here
Bacoladchick: when u coming
ME: octobber
Bacoladchick: we can meet then
ME: I thought u did not want my kind of fun, only marry
Bacoladchick: ok
Bacoladchick: no I will stay you and tour you if you will acept meWay to easy. From a 29-year-old cutie in Pagadian:


her: zamboanga
ME: did u read my profile
her: yes
ME: how old r u
ME: im 49
her: i am 29
ME: what r u looking for
her: guy like have fun
ME: thats me
her: hmm
ME: when i come to filipines im looking for gf when im there
her: yes
ME: live band, shop the mall, beach, lovemaking, some travel maybe
her: ah..ok
ME: u interest
her: yes

Wicked Roger
06-09-10, 00:17
Hello, WR! I'm taking my Indonesian student friend (whos still 21!) on a business trip with me next week, and thanks to a kindly shoe store here, shes about to get another pair of 5 inchers. Black, with straps and studs and I can already imagine her in those and the black stockings and very little else.

An Asian girl in High Heels. Can't be beaten!

Lovely jubly....filipinas, slim, petitie, 5" heels, stockings...sound like my cutie the evening after we met RK for dinner.....she looks good also in leather gear (BDSM stuff she chose on a specialist web site) and restraints - she loves being tied up..so I do as I ama gentleman

That black dress does something for many guys including me, eyes on her a lot, very nice for an old fat kinky bugger like me :D

We were on the plane to Davao...she went to the toilet, high wedgies, tight short jeans...and so many guys looked at her ass...delightful moment.....

Have fun FF and RK and see you (and MR) in July...come to Cebu....she has a real school uniform now...she got another one especially for me...she has to have 2 for college but knew I would appreciate an extra one....lots of spanking will ensue :D

And Doingourduty....there are so many 'normal' girls like my cutie and RK and FF's cuties, all need some gentle persuasion and the rewards are there...

FreebieFan
06-10-10, 00:53
A lady friend from Manila who I know (27 married to a Canadian who lives in Canada) and I have been chatting and presumably we will meet and bang on my next trip.

She sent me an email stating she was going away on a vacation and if she couldn't find any guys on the beach, she at least had her eggplant.

(Eggplant FYI, aka talong is famous in Phils as a euphemism for a dick)

Last night was online chatting with a friend from Palawan, who sweetly told me she missed me and was horny etc.

All the words we want to hear.

Webcams were turned on on, she started to play and dance on her bed, and then she said " wait. I'm just going to the kitchen ".

Came back with an eggplant. She then put a condom on the eggplant

(says " it gets itchy" LOL. Not that eggplants carry STD's!)

And proceeded to insert said eggplant. She seemed to enjoy it as she was screaming my name.

So now you know, if your GF doesn't have a vibrator and is caught in a horny moment, direct her to the nearest Fruit and Veg purveyor.

GregLondon
06-10-10, 05:13
Hello, Gents,

I am new here and planning my first trip to the Philippines. Initially I was considering a foreign bride (and that is still in the back of my mind) but first and foremost I want to relax and have an enjoyable vacation while dating a few girls to see my level of sexual and romantic interest. In the USA I've never dated a woman more than 5 or 6 years younger (not counting the brief relationship I had with the super hot 23 year old topless dancer 7 years ago half my age) and I've never dated any asian woman. I'm in my mid 50's tall lean and athletic and not bad looking for an old guy and I hope my smile and blue eyes help my efforts. The major attraction to asian women initially is their cultural preference for older men. I'm not looking for quantity but quality and if I ever did get serious with a girl here she would have to be taller than average, very petite and slim, hae a pretty face, with a super sexy pair of tits (I'm sure I'm not alone here with these preferences). I don't intend to mislead any girls I meet and I'm not on a quest to see how much sex I can get for free.

I plan on meeting girls in the course of site-seeing and browsing the malls in a major city although I just joined DIA and CB to see what those sites are all about. I'm savvy about scamming and will also use the internet and cell phone to meet attractive women during my travels. I'm thinking about taking 7 to 14 days to visit beginning as early as mid July although this could be delayed based several things and in that case postponed to later this year or early next year. I have not decided where I will go yet although Davao and Cebu City are high on my list. I read in this thread (or somewhere in ISG) that there may be taller women in Iligan; but I'm doubtful despite wanting to believe there must be a region of Philippines where a gene pool exists to make such a claim true (I think the poster also said that in addition to being taller they had bigger breasts too; now that really is too good to be true!). I think it's doubtful but I want to believe!

Any thoughts or suggestions anyone can offer are appreciated (like where do we find the taller women?!) or any travel tips from the experienced travelers here are most welcomed. I enjoy ISG and find the information here invaluable for a would-be traveler like myself as I plan my first trip. I found this thread after joining the internet dating websites and have enjoyed reading posts here as well as a few other threads. I'll stay in touch and post a report of my travels sometime after the fact. Good to be here good to be in good company.

Cheers

I think it is a mistake to regard the Phili girl's acceptance of older men as a "cultural preference" though this is certainly a fantasy that many older men who come here like to have. If you ask a 19 year old Pinay whether she would be interested in a 40 year old Pinoy guy, she will be incredulous (unless of course there is a huge difference in economic position.). What's really going on is that foreign guys are judged by different standards. Whereas her friends and family would be aghast about the idea of her dating a 40 year old Pinoy they can accept that she is going out with a 60 year old foreign guy without question (unless she comes from an upmarket background in which case the acceptable age gap is lowered). So visa, money, treats , staying at decent hotels, going on trips, are all a big part of it, combined with generally better attitudes and in some cases more heallthy and fit physiques (for a given age) - if the benefits of western healthcare are not outweighed by the problems of a western diet.

I'm not sayiung that these girls can't have genuine afection and love for older guys, but let';s not kid ourselves that these are islands on which young females have a mysterious cultural preference for older guys.

On the taller girl's front, unless you develop a preference for ladyboys, the best advice may be to just get over it. There is no geographic enclave of taller pinays. Girls from richer families will on average be taller, but are in general more difficult to find/attract too. The upside is that if you ar just looking for a few girls rather than a constant stream there are so many girls to choose from that you should someone.

Member #4214
06-10-10, 05:50
Hello, Gents, I am new here and planning my first trip to the Philippines. Initially I was considering a foreign bride (and that is still in the back of my mind) but first and foremost I want to relax and have an enjoyable vacation while dating a few girls to see my level of sexual and romantic interest ...

The girls will aggressively tempt you into jumping quickly into some type of emotional commitments. That will be one of your biggest challenges, in my view: remaining casual enough to play the field while you are there. Just tell yourself, over and over, that you are not going to make any commitments or reach any grand conclusions during your trip. Leave those for a couple months following your trip - after you've had a chance to clear your head and put the trip in perspective.

Sounds like you've done lots of good prep work. Just my 2 cents: nothing prepares you ...

FreebieFan
06-10-10, 07:03
On the taller girl's front, unless you develop a preference for ladyboys, the best advice may be to just get over it. There is no geographic enclave of taller pinays. Girls from richer families will on average be taller, but are in general more difficult to find/attract too. If you really want taller Filipinas then get something smiliar to the attached website.

They will all instantly become 5ft 6. The only problem is when they remove their shoes you wonder " where did my honey go ! "

http://www.pierresilber.com/highheels14.html

FreebieFan
06-10-10, 07:06
Lovely jubly....filipinas, slim, petitie, 5" heels, stockings...sound like my cutie the evening after we met RK for dinner.....she looks good also in leather gear (BDSM stuff she chose on a specialist web site) :D

We were on the plane to Davao...she went to the toilet, high wedgies, tight short jeans...and so many guys looked at her ass...

Have fun FF and RK and see you (and MR) in July...come to Cebu....she has a real school uniform now...she got another one especially for me...she has to have 2 for college but knew I would appreciate an extra one....lots of spanking will ensue :DHey WR. bored at work and found the following.

http://asianstreetmeat.com/slutwear/

Thought of you as I was perusing the said items of clothing, lol.

FreebieFan
06-11-10, 05:23
From a DIA lady in Cebu.

"now I'm 2nd year college at asian college of technology now I stop studying because I don't have money to pay for the scholl so I am looking for work so if somebody is intersted to marry me it is o. K for me because I'm free.

Wicked Roger
06-11-10, 09:35
Hey WR. bored at work and found the following.

http://asianstreetmeat.com/slutwear/

Thought of you as I was perusing the said items of clothing, lol.

Thanks FF, excellent sites and the Pierre Silber site I will certainly buy from, I just let my cutie decide as she has excellent taste in sexy clothes and heels, as your saw when you met her. Never shy of wearing heels...and **** wear ...... excellent combo for dirty kinky old men like you and me.

You did not see her in the short black dress...RK did as did others in Davao, simple, short (with her 5" heels) and cost 850 pesos (shoes cost more!). her ass is a peach in that dress....

And she also choses from www.honour.co.uk Some excellent BDSM and it delivers direct to the hotel in Manila..what more can a man ask for. Last time she wanted a vibrating spanker....well, what is a man to do (I am after all a gentleman :D)

Catch you soon

Red Kilt
06-11-10, 11:21
You did not see her in the short black dress...RK did as did others in Davao, simple, short (with her 5" heels) and cost 850 pesos (shoes cost more!). her ass is a peach in that dress....


I saw it. Peach, Melon, Jumbo Apples, jostling for attention.
I had to put my hands in my pockets as i went down the stairs behind her (for many different reasons). Almost lost my footing on the steps too LOL.

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 13:53
On Date In Asia, when doing a search, right next to the country drop-down box, there is a place to enter the city name. No way to search on height, weight, etcYup. and I use that particular search feature frequently to find tall girls within a particular city; all that's missing is the option to only show users currently online. DIA also provides a search showing all online women but just doesn't let me combine with location and height.

Same with CB as far as I know.

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 14:28
You have the right attitude in that you are just here to relax, have a look around and see what you can find. The best opportunities will pop up when you least expect it.

There is no area in the PI where women are taller or have bigger boobs. A tall filipina is a 5ft 6 ins one, and who then wears high heels. It is very hit or miss on the dating sites too, as many women just guess on their heights and have no idea of their real height. (I met a woman who said she was 5ft5ins and turned out to be barely 5ft. She just guessed her size).

In all seriousness, if you really do want tall, full-bodied women then you should take a trip to Mongolia. I have just returned from there and the women are absolutely stunning. Tall, model-like, beautifully dressed, full bodied, and horny as hell too LOL.Appreciate your help Red Kilt. Thank God for high heels on short girls! Of course I'm a fan of heels on a girl 5'6" to 5'9" too! Your comment about your acquaintance who didn't know how tall she was matches my experience chatting online when searching and interviewing tall girls. I'm not convinced (in general) they don't know exactly how tall they are even when claiming ignorance. Over estimating height seems pretty self-serving when advertising for attention among a sea of profiles of short women. I can't believe I'm starting to think 5'5" is tall (so I'm acclimating to the Philippines already).

Now you have me curious about Mongolia so I'll have to look into that. Is there an ISG thread here for Mongolia? I like tall but very lean (not full-bodied in that sense) especially if prospecting for a life partner (not to mention my fondness for ample boobs). Are the Mongolian women as hard working and industrious as Philippines? I like the hardworking nature of Philippine women (they do very well in school and typcially becoming highly paid nurses in USA which is important to me if she wants to send money home to help her family).

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 14:45
Qingdao also has some fine specimens, who generally seem taller than most Chinese girls. The same long hair, porcelain white skin, and boobs of all size and shape. Also highly recommended for a trip! Best part is theres not that many white guys around spoiling /despoiling the place.I'M making a note on Qingdao because of your comment. This is the similar idea that there could be a region with a certain gene-pool that grows taller women. I have noticed looking on DIA and CB that China dolls are generally much taller than Philippine women. As I get deeper into this process of looking closely at the women from different Asian cultures I'm starting to develop a preference for Chinese women (physical appearance) more so than Philippine. That preference is coming from the height difference but also from their observing facial characteristics. Philippine women have very wide noses that I don't find attractive relative to their Chinese counterparts (fortunately there are exceptions). I've noticed Chinese women more generally want men within 10 years their age (of course there are exceptions here too) where Philippine women prefer (or tolerate) much older mates. No doubt my quest will require a trip to China sooner than later.

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 15:04
When you arrive in Manila you will take the Brad Pitt pill that I and many others take...you will very gwapo and will have many girls more than half your age want to rock your boat.....My fav girl is way more than half my age and sees nothing wrong in dating a man older than her father....

As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match forguys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging :D

I personally prefer Cebu and Davao, really like Cebuanas and Davao has a lot of regular girls. Both have lots of universities and nursing schools so plenty of chances...

Take your time, as to quote my good mate Groin Strain "am in lust already" ...and he was only at the arrivals baggage claim :)

Takes everyone time to figure out the scammers - some are not so blindingly obvious trust me - and take your time with a girl especially if you have an idea to marry her. Meet the family, see if she asks for cash immediately, lots of stories on the Board about the pitfalls etc.

Have fun...PM me, let me know when you are there as if I am I like to meet ISG guys, some dont but I do and have made some excellent friends through the Board.Hey Wicked Roger... I will definitely make an effort to connect with you when there. Planning on Manila, Cebu and Davao. I recently bought an Apple iPad and thinking this will be a good device to take with me because it's so small and compact to check/report to ISG and the dating sites (assuming I will be able to find hotel with free wifi). I haven't done much international travel recently; can anyone tell me if I need a special adaptor to use a standard device that I would simple plug into a 110 VAC 60 Htz wall outlet in USA? Need to be able to charge my iPad.

BTW 5" heels sound very hot!

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 15:42
WRs girl looked unbelievable in the 5 inch heels and the short, tight, sexy black dress. It does something magic to their figures LOL. Makes the butt gyrate in glorous ways, and watching her walk gave me a fantasy of the same gyrations in the bed too.

(excuse me while I wipe the slobber off the keyboard).

I agree with WR on everything he said about destinations, about taking it slow and easy, and watching for scams too. Get yourself off to Cebu and Davao as well as Manila.

PM me when you are here as I live in Manila. I am always happy to meet any of the ISG brethren. So far 4/4 have turned out to be cool guys so you can be #5.

Good luckRK- Man I wish I was there to have seen those 5" heels. I commented to WR that 5" heels sounded very hot; but your added details (glorious and gyrating) definitely helped bring it to life (I laughed out loud when I read your comment about having to wipe the slobber off your keyboard LOL!). I'm a very visual person and have always been a big fan of women in heels they raise and elevate a woman putting her entire body on display! Anyway, you guys are great and I hope your schedules mesh with mine and we'll have a chance to get together in Manila. Years ago when I was traveling in Portugal it was so great to meet someone from my country who could speak English (after days of never speaking to anyone because no one there spoke English); in Manila it would be great to meet some like-minded fellow mongerers who appreciate 5" heels as much as I do!

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 16:46
I think it is a mistake to regard the Phili girl's acceptance of older men as a "cultural preference" though this is certainly a fantasy that many older men who come here like to have. If you ask a 19 year old Pinay whether she would be interested in a 40 year old Pinoy guy, she will be incredulous (unless of course there is a huge difference in economic position.). What's really going on is that foreign guys are judged by different standards. Whereas her friends and family would be aghast about the idea of her dating a 40 year old Pinoy they can accept that she is going out with a 60 year old foreign guy without question (unless she comes from an upmarket background in which case the acceptable age gap is lowered). So visa, money, treats, staying at decent hotels, going on trips, are all a big part of it, combined with generally better attitudes and in some cases more heallthy and fit physiques (for a given age). If the benefits of western healthcare are not outweighed by the problems of a western diet.

I'm not sayiung that these girls can't have genuine afection and love for older guys, but let'; s not kid ourselves that these are islands on which young females have a mysterious cultural preference for older guys.

On the taller girl's front, unless you develop a preference for ladyboys, the best advice may be to just get over it. There is no geographic enclave of taller pinays. Girls from richer families will on average be taller, but are in general more difficult to find/attract too. The upside is that if you ar just looking for a few girls rather than a constant stream there are so many girls to choose from that you should someone.GL—I appreciate being educated by members here who have been there and know first-hand about the culture. Thank you for taking the time to point this out to me and others who may not know better (because I obviously had a different idea in my head). My misperception comes from recently watching an online video published by a wellknown Tour Company (ForeignAffair and its affiliate LoveMe) intended for an audience of American men interesting in finding Asian brides. To their credit they do point out that most relationships do better with closer ages and that success becomes very difficult with any more than a 20 year age difference; consistent with what I had read 20 years early based on statistical marriage data. But aside from pointing out the obvious statistics they're doing a great disservice.

What you say makes complete sense and matches my limited experience chatting with husband seekers online (I'm grateful for your help here). I have only found one Pinay I'm attracted to enough to even consider marrying (and it might be a very different feeling meeting her in person) she is 33 5'5" 99lbs without the typical wide phili nose (we have chatted cam to cam and will continue to chat and I may meet her in Davao). She might look ordinary to most men but there is a certain physical look that works for me and she has it. Anyway, when she mentioned to me that the man she was previously engaged had left her two years ago and married someone else; I asked her if he was foreigner or local man. She told me he was a local man. So I asked her how old he was and she told me he was the same age as her 33 (31 at the time). Of course I was shocked! LOL. This happened since I made my first post to this thread that you are commenting on. Now her answer makes complete sense.

DoingOurDuty
06-11-10, 17:41
The girls will aggressively tempt you into jumping quickly into some type of emotional commitments. That will be one of your biggest challenges, in my view: remaining casual enough to play the field while you are there. Just tell yourself, over and over, that you are not going to make any commitments or reach any grand conclusions during your trip. Leave those for a couple months following your trip - after you've had a chance to clear your head and put the trip in perspective.

Sounds like you've done lots of good prep work. Just my 2 cents: nothing prepares you ...Houz—I agree completely. Chatting online with girls they can be equally aggressive in becoming my one and only serious gf. In fact, I routinely say to girls online that there is no way I can honestly become serious (with them online) without meeting in person first; and of course they become very offended because I suspect they don't have very little experience with internet dating or know how different the chemistry can be in person. For those girls who do not lose interest in me after I say that, I also point out that we would have to continue to get acquainted online after I return home to really know if marriage together would really be the right decision for me. So regarding any women that I may meet from online contacts (where marriage is in the back of my mind) I am trying to set an expectation for them that is close to reality. I know I will still likely struggle to not disappoint someone I might feel passionate about on a date and will need to have my wits about me when meeting this kind of girl on my trip. Your points are all well taken though. And thank you.

BTW I am not even necessarily going to find and marry a foreign bride but I am open to the possibility when I look at the available women to date in the states. The best rule for decision making I have ever come across goes something like this: the amount of time required to make a "good" decision should be proportionate to how easily that decision can be reversed or undone. Since I pretty much live by this rule I would not make any hasty decisions regarding marriage. Not to mention the additional complications of integrating a foreign culture into my culture. With a prenup agreement you could view marrying someone so much younger as a 10-year proposition (or longer so long as it's still working for her). My suspicion is that as she becomes Americanized (and I become a very old person relative to her) she is the one who will want to move on to greener pastures first. For this to make sense I should also point out that I don't want any children (this is a puzzling concept to them especially since I currently have no children). I've found the easiest way to explain this is to simply say my sperm are defective; since they seem to believe that I would really be happier if we had children despite my desire not to. To my surprise about 1/2 say this is not a problem if it is God's will and that a good loving relationship would be enough. GL's comment that foreign guys are judged by a different set of standards is clearly at play here.

DoingOurDuty
06-12-10, 01:18
My plan was to fly in mid July but after checking airfares I'm now looking at Sep/Oct timeframe (40% saving; $1500 versus $900 round trip LUX to MNL Jul versus Sep). Any tricks on where to find the best airfares? I've been using the various online reservation search engines and websites and it seems like I'm finding the lowest fairs (but who knows I haven't traveled for 20 years or so and hunting airfare is new to me; maybe I'm missing something?). I notice some websites promote a very low fare LUX to MNL with no ability to check online details. But when you call their toll free number they quickly clarify the cost of the flight for the date searched for on their website is actually much higher then the teaser rate they showed (of course it wasn't a real search engine but you don't know that at first if you're a newbie like me). These types of websites have the highest prices relative to Expedia or Orbitz. Also I noticed the number of hours between departure and final destination arrival can vary significantly for any given round trip airfare price when working through the raw data available on Expedia. Now I see what a good travel agent does to consider all the possibilities to prepare the best possible itinerary for a customer. I'll stick to using Expedia unless someone has a better idea. I'm guessing that if I book now for Sep/Oct time frame I'll get the best flight combinations (to minimize travel time) at the best price since the best combinations surely sell-out first. Am I getting the hang of this or someone has a "go-to" travel agent who always works miracles? Or do any of the foreign airlines provide online booking with specials not carried on Expedia? TIA for any comments or help.

P.S. This post might be helpful to any lurkers out there planning their first trip. Which has me wondering if I should be posting this on a thread other than "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals)? I'm as new to ISG as I am international travel and specifically the Philippines. Seems natural to post here since everyone has been so friendly and helpful. Imagine it makes sense to get hotel near the manila airport since I'll be returning to Manila for my return flight to LAX after visiting Cebu and Davao?

Stroker Ace88
06-12-10, 03:33
BTW I am not even necessarily going to find and marry a foreign bride but I am open to the possibility when I look at the available women to date in the states. The best rule for decision making I have ever come across goes something like this: the amount of time required to make a "good" decision should be proportionate to how easily that decision can be reversed or undone. Since I pretty much live by this rule I would not make any hasty decisions regarding marriage. Not to mention the additional complications of integrating a foreign culture into my culture. With a prenup agreement you could view marrying someone so much younger as a 10-year proposition (or longer so long as it's still working for her). My suspicion is that as she becomes Americanized (and I become a very old person relative to her) she is the one who will want to move on to greener pastures first. For this to make sense I should also point out that I don't want any children (this is a puzzling concept to them especially since I currently have no children). I've found the easiest way to explain this is to simply say my sperm are defective; since they seem to believe that I would really be happier if we had children despite my desire not to. To my surprise about 1/2 say this is not a problem if it is God's will and that a good loving relationship would be enough. GL's comment that foreign guys are judged by a different set of standards is clearly at play here.

DOD,

Hmm, seven posts from one member in a row is a bit much, don't you think? lol.

Anyways, you seem to have alot to say. This is my take on your issues from someone who has been where you are now (planning your first trip the PI) and then meeting the girls in person, and on to multiple trips back to visit them. I have a few days to go until my sixth trip in 16 months to the Philippines and now I have narrowed it down to one lovely sexy thin 21yr old, who just might take me off the open market.

First I think you have the right attitude and mindset from the begining. You know what kind of look you prefer in a woman (height, weight, facial features). That goes a long way towards sorting out who is right for you. All you have to do now is go forth and seek those girls out. Simple right? Wrong! lol. Let me explain

First, make sure you clearly tell the girls you meet on the internet what you want. That will help you to narrow down your search some. Granted most girls will just say "yes" to almost anything you tell them if they know you are seriously considering visiting them in person. Just come right out with your plans, and most will be ok as long as you seem sincere and honest.

This is what I did, and while it may not be exactly the path to follow maybe you can learn from my mistakes and hopefully not make the same ones I did.

I started to chat online on the dating websites 6 months before my first trip. I had so many contacts that I could not even remember them all, it was just crazy. I narrowed it down to a handful of girls that were regular chat mates of mine and seemed genuine and eager to meet. I was very honest with them, and I told them I was looking for a serious relationship but that I was also going to meet other girls on my trip. All were ok with it, and most were just happy that we were going to meet.

I made several mistakes on that first trip, the first being do not under any circumstances let the girl you are currently with know who you have seen before and who you are going to see after her. Most girls will tell you they do not care, be careful. Google "tampo" if you want to know more. Never give them a look at your Yahoo or Hotmail contact list. They can and will memorize the other girls ID's and they will start problems for you. I did that and I was very sorry. I thought I was being honest and adult about everything so no need for anyone to get upset. Wrong! If you meet 6 girls and if they think they have a shot at marriage they will try everything and anything to hurt you if you reject them or tell them you have chosen someone else. Its a bad scene and you do not want to go there, trust me. This also holds true for your cell phone. Never give the girls access to it or you will be sorry. All you need to tell them is this phrase, "Collect, Collect, Collect, then Select". It means you are not serious now, and you plan on making your choice at a later date. The locals all know it, and most girls know it too.

Go to the Philippines and have a good time. The girls are warm, genuine GFE for the most part and if you are lucky you might get some PSE from a few of the regular girls. Just treat them right and they will treat you like a King. Treat them badly and you better run or not return to your favorite Hotel again. They will hound you every time you come into there city. I met a girl my first trip that I stayed with for 8 days until I sent her home so I could meet someone else, and since the second girl was perfect for me I dropped the first girl. She has caused many problems for my new GF and I, so I would be very careful about what info you spread around until you are certain you want to get serious with one of the girls.

Once you have found the right one for you, make sure she knows what she is getting herself into. Make sure she knows your standard of living, because to all the people in the Philippines we are millionaires and drive big fancy cars and the streets are paved with gold. Show her pictures of your house-apartment-mansion-condo-cardboard box that you call home. Also make her aware if you live in a cold-weather part of the World. Nothing says get me the heck out of here and back to the sunny Philippines faster than getting off the plane in "Frozen Snot Alaska" when its -20.

I think since you have a certain girl in mind, meaning a taller than average woman for the PI, and a thin slimmer woman with then maybe the PI is not the right place for you. Most PI woman are average to thinner bodies but most are very short. Think around 5foot even, and 5'3 with heels. Unless they are 5 inch BDSM heels, then all bets are off. *wink*

My advice to you would be to look over the pictures posted of the women from some of the Asian countires. Thailand and China should be at the top of your list mainly because there are lots of available taller women with slim builds that better suit your needs. The taller thinner women in the Philippines are often snatched up real quick by foreign guys, or they are sent off to angeles city to go make money. That is not to say you can't find them, because I sure did. It just takes time on the ground to figure things out for yourself.

Let us know how it all worked out.

Rumpshaker1
06-12-10, 07:41
Met this one on DIA and she was pretty much ready to come to where ever I was with no hesitation. I am in cebu city right now, just arrived today. We're chatting away and then she says that she's been to the hotel where I'm staying. She asks if I want to see the American she met there before, I declined but it was too late. It was picture after picture of this older guy just pounding the shit out of her. Pretty funny stuff. Here's her DIA profile. Anyone know her?

Pathrixiah

GregLondon
06-12-10, 08:32
GL—I appreciate being educated by members here who have been there and know first-hand about the culture. Thank you for taking the time to point this out to me and others who may not know better (because I obviously had a different idea in my head). My misperception comes from recently watching an online video published by a wellknown Tour Company (ForeignAffair and its affiliate LoveMe) intended for an audience of American men interesting in finding Asian brides. To their credit they do point out that most relationships do better with closer ages and that success becomes very difficult with any more than a 20 year age difference; consistent with what I had read 20 years early based on statistical marriage data. But aside from pointing out the obvious statistics they're doing a great disservice.

What you say makes complete sense and matches my limited experience chatting with husband seekers online (I'm grateful for your help here). I have only found one Pinay I'm attracted to enough to even consider marrying (and it might be a very different feeling meeting her in person) she is 33 5'5" 99lbs without the typical wide phili nose (we have chatted cam to cam and will continue to chat and I may meet her in Davao). She might look ordinary to most men but there is a certain physical look that works for me and she has it. Anyway, when she mentioned to me that the man she was previously engaged had left her two years ago and married someone else; I asked her if he was foreigner or local man. She told me he was a local man. So I asked her how old he was and she told me he was the same age as her 33 (31 at the time). Of course I was shocked! LOL. This happened since I made my first post to this thread that you are commenting on. Now her answer makes complete sense.

As someone else said, if you are really hung up about taller girls then China and especially northern China is probably a better hunting ground. Dalian and the nearby Qingtao are noted for cute and relatively tall girls. My guess on average 1 or 2 inches taller than in the Phils. What does that mean: if you have a minimum height requirement of say 5ft 6in, my guess is that only 3% of Phil girls will qualify whereas in Dalian maybe 12% would pass muster.

The downside with Chinese girls is that (1) they will only tolerate say a 15-20 year age gap max. If you are looking and tall slim and good looking girls you may struggle as in China the whole country is very height conscious and tall girls are highly prized, so you would have plenty of local competition. The upside to Chinese girls (and I have lived with 3) is that they are much more academic and hard working so if you are looking for brains ans well as beauty they are an option. Of course English is a real issue and you are de facto fishing from a 10% pool of relatively educated girls who speak reasonable English whereas in the Phils maybe 40% of the girls speak enough English to contemplate marrying. In China you are not going to be marrying into a large and expensive family.

Although the Philippines is not home to the prettiest girls in Asia in my view ,(I would say Vietnam wins there) the demand/supply situation is such that it should be possible for a reasonable 50s/60s Western guy to end up with a really attractive say 25-30 year old. Though in practice many of the girls that such guys actually do pick are regarded as "exotica" (ie really not so attractive) by Filipinos and old Phils hands alike. If you can lower your height expectations to say 5ft 4in the pool you would be fishing from would be say 15% of girls of that age and your chances of getting one with the right looks/personality attitude/education/background/morals etc are MUCH higher. Ultimately in my view these characteristics are MUCH more important than a couple of inches height.

From the quality of your writing, I would say that you need to concentrate almost exclusively on graduates/ college students. A sexy high school grad can be fun for a few days maybe a month, but eventually you will get bored with her and if you did marry her she would probably have limited employment options back home.

If i were looking for a wife in the Phils I would probably kick off in the big cities of Mindanao such as Davao, CDO. This is because though Mindanao has maybe 30% of the population it gets maybe 5% of the foreign visitors. This is bad news if you want easy sex as the girls are more conservative but better news if you are hunting for a wife who hasnt become jaded by exposure to loads of foreign guys.

Personally I would also insist on girls who were either bisexual or at least open to threesomes with other girls, as who wants to be limited to one girl of have to cheat and sneak ones way through life.

Blackangst
06-13-10, 00:42
My plan was to fly in mid July but after checking airfares I'm now looking at Sep/Oct timeframe (40% saving; $1500 versus $900 round trip LUX to MNL Jul versus Sep). Any tricks on where to find the best airfares? I've been using the various online reservation search engines and websites and it seems like I'm finding the lowest fairs (but who knows I haven't traveled for 20 years or so and hunting airfare is new to me; maybe I'm missing something?). I notice some websites promote a very low fare LUX to MNL with no ability to check online details. But when you call their toll free number they quickly clarify the cost of the flight for the date searched for on their website is actually much higher then the teaser rate they showed (of course it wasn't a real search engine but you don't know that at first if you're a newbie like me). These types of websites have the highest prices relative to Expedia or Orbitz. Also I noticed the number of hours between departure and final destination arrival can vary significantly for any given round trip airfare price when working through the raw data available on Expedia. Now I see what a good travel agent does to consider all the possibilities to prepare the best possible itinerary for a customer. I'll stick to using Expedia unless someone has a better idea. I'm guessing that if I book now for Sep/Oct time frame I'll get the best flight combinations (to minimize travel time) at the best price since the best combinations surely sell-out first. Am I getting the hang of this or someone has a "go-to" travel agent who always works miracles? Or do any of the foreign airlines provide online booking with specials not carried on Expedia? TIA for any comments or help.

P.S. This post might be helpful to any lurkers out there planning their first trip. Which has me wondering if I should be posting this on a thread other than "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals)? I'm as new to ISG as I am international travel and specifically the Philippines. Seems natural to post here since everyone has been so friendly and helpful. Imagine it makes sense to get hotel near the manila airport since I'll be returning to Manila for my return flight to LAX after visiting Cebu and Davao?

For that time frame check Hawaiian Air. You should be able to book round trip under $900.

GregLondon
06-13-10, 02:41
My plan was to fly in mid July but after checking airfares I'm now looking at Sep/Oct timeframe (40% saving; $1500 versus $900 round trip LUX to MNL Jul versus Sep). Any tricks on where to find the best airfares? I've been using the various online reservation search engines and websites and it seems like I'm finding the lowest fairs (but who knows I haven't traveled for 20 years or so and hunting airfare is new to me; maybe I'm missing something?). I notice some websites promote a very low fare LUX to MNL with no ability to check online details. But when you call their toll free number they quickly clarify the cost of the flight for the date searched for on their website is actually much higher then the teaser rate they showed (of course it wasn't a real search engine but you don't know that at first if you're a newbie like me). These types of websites have the highest prices relative to Expedia or Orbitz. Also I noticed the number of hours between departure and final destination arrival can vary significantly for any given round trip airfare price when working through the raw data available on Expedia. Now I see what a good travel agent does to consider all the possibilities to prepare the best possible itinerary for a customer. I'll stick to using Expedia unless someone has a better idea. I'm guessing that if I book now for Sep/Oct time frame I'll get the best flight combinations (to minimize travel time) at the best price since the best combinations surely sell-out first. Am I getting the hang of this or someone has a "go-to" travel agent who always works miracles? Or do any of the foreign airlines provide online booking with specials not carried on Expedia? TIA for any comments or help.

P.S. This post might be helpful to any lurkers out there planning their first trip. Which has me wondering if I should be posting this on a thread other than "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals)? I'm as new to ISG as I am international travel and specifically the Philippines. Seems natural to post here since everyone has been so friendly and helpful. Imagine it makes sense to get hotel near the manila airport since I'll be returning to Manila for my return flight to LAX after visiting Cebu and Davao?

You should be aware that the rainy season runs from about June to October. That said I quit like the Phils in the rainy season. generally it doesnt rain all the days or all the time and the weather is a bit cooler.

Personally I'm not keen on Manila , poluted expensive dirty and would head straight for Angeles where you can find decent value hotels and meet up with a load of like minded guys to get your feet. Personally I'm not a big fan of the bar scene and if you are semi interested in a serious relationship you should probably head south. I'm not sure how long your trip will last or whether your sole focus will be as many girls as possible. If you want to mix sexy fun with beautiful scenery consider a trip to Palawan and visit Honda Bay and El Nido. Open minded girls are a bit thin on the ground in Palawan especially if you are fussy re height, if you are not i have a number of good contacts so you may wish to BYOB. but the pics/experience you will get if you have a beautiful girl sitting on an outrigger as you pass through the islands of El Nido are of a completely different order than in say Cebu or Davao. Of course for many guys that's irrelevant, they have 6 months of spunk backed up and just want to root as many chicks as possible.

DoingOurDuty
06-13-10, 04:51
As someone else said, if you are really hung up about taller girls then China and especially northern China is probably a better hunting ground. Dalian and the nearby Qingtao are noted for cute and relatively tall girls. My guess on average 1 or 2 inches taller than in the Phils. What does that mean: if you have a minimum height requirement of say 5ft 6in, my guess is that only 3% of Phil girls will qualify whereas in Dalian maybe 12% would pass muster.

The downside with Chinese girls is that (1) they will only tolerate say a 15-20 year age gap max. If you are looking and tall slim and good looking girls you may struggle as in China the whole country is very height conscious and tall girls are highly prized, so you would have plenty of local competition. The upside to Chinese girls (and I have lived with 3) is that they are much more academic and hard working so if you are looking for brains ans well as beauty they are an option. Of course English is a real issue and you are de facto fishing from a 10% pool of relatively educated girls who speak reasonable English whereas in the Phils maybe 40% of the girls speak enough English to contemplate marrying. In China you are not going to be marrying into a large and expensive family.

Although the Philippines is not home to the prettiest girls in Asia in my view ,(I would say Vietnam wins there) the demand/supply situation is such that it should be possible for a reasonable 50s/60s Western guy to end up with a really attractive say 25-30 year old. Though in practice many of the girls that such guys actually do pick are regarded as "exotica" (ie really not so attractive) by Filipinos and old Phils hands alike. If you can lower your height expectations to say 5ft 4in the pool you would be fishing from would be say 15% of girls of that age and your chances of getting one with the right looks/personality attitude/education/background/morals etc are MUCH higher. Ultimately in my view these characteristics are MUCH more important than a couple of inches height.

From the quality of your writing, I would say that you need to concentrate almost exclusively on graduates/ college students. A sexy high school grad can be fun for a few days maybe a month, but eventually you will get bored with her and if you did marry her she would probably have limited employment options back home.

If i were looking for a wife in the Phils I would probably kick off in the big cities of Mindanao such as Davao, CDO. This is because though Mindanao has maybe 30% of the population it gets maybe 5% of the foreign visitors. This is bad news if you want easy sex as the girls are more conservative but better news if you are hunting for a wife who hasnt become jaded by exposure to loads of foreign guys.

Personally I would also insist on girls who were either bisexual or at least open to threesomes with other girls, as who wants to be limited to one girl of have to cheat and sneak ones way through life.Greg, your posts are always filled with so much relevant information you have me back-pedaling now and double-checking my decisions. Thanks again. I've not yet booked my flight so I want to quickly consider northern China now (given my height preference) if for no other reason to make sure I have no regrets following through with my plans for Philippines. Would I have as much fun looking for the right girl in Dalian as I would in Manilla/Cebu/Davao? I'm attracted to the low expense of vacationing in Philippines along with the high degree of local mongering action should I not find my girl (could I expect a similar experience in Dalian)? Aside from finding a girl to possibly marry (yes tall and educated counts for marriage) I am also looking for an overdue and relaxing vacation filled with ample poon regardless of my success finding my one in a million. I'm not looking for free sex nor the professionals but rather the GFE offering gifts for overnight company, sex and companionship. I'm a business owner recovering from a hard hit economy so overall total trip cost matters (as much as I would probably want to pay for a professional 10 at some point during my travels I'd probably resist the temptation to save some coin).

DoingOurDuty
06-13-10, 17:36
For that time frame check Hawaiian Air. You should be able to book round trip under $900.Best I can find on HA right from their website is $928 SanDiego/Manila. That's about $30 more than Expedia search (but haven't checked Expedia search lately and fares seem to change all the time and could be higher now). Thanks for the reference. Nice to have some airlines to check with directly.

Julian W
06-13-10, 21:31
Need Advice. Who uses the term "tour guide" when talking with a lady, or do you say "romantic touring" or "lover and tour guide".

FreebieFan
06-14-10, 02:00
[QUOTE=Doingourdutyreason to make sure I have no regrets following through with my plans for Philippines. Would I have as much fun looking for the right girl in Dalian as I would in Manilla/Cebu/Davao? QUOTE]Philippines Philippines Philippines! Theres no contest, unless your Mandarin is seriously fluent. Chinese women can be warm and engaging but will never ever equal the "loving feeling" that a cute Filipina can provide.

Chinese women can be wary and aloof of a horny guy and need a few dates (I lived in China for 4 years) to get warm and friendly. Filipinas. Have a higher hormone (horniness!) content it seems.

Red Kilt
06-14-10, 03:33
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I've not yet booked my flight so I want to quickly consider northern China now (given my height preference) if for no other reason to make sure I have no regrets following through with my plans for Philippines. Would I have as much fun looking for the right girl in Dalian as I would in Manilla/Cebu/Davao? I'm attracted to the low expense of vacationing in Philippines along with the high degree of local mongering action should I not find my girl (could I expect a similar experience in Dalian)? Aside from finding a girl to possibly marry (yes tall and educated counts for marriage) I am also looking for an overdue and relaxing vacation filled with ample poon regardless of my success finding my one in a million. I'm not looking for free sex nor the professionals but rather the GFE offering gifts for overnight company, sex and companionship. I'm a business owner recovering from a hard hit economy so overall total trip cost matters (as much as I would probably want to pay for a professional 10 at some point during my travels I'd probably resist the temptation to save some coin).

With all due respect DYD I think you are over-organising your trip.
Just decide on 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 places to go. You can never know who or what you will find, so just relax and wait for it to happen.
And DONT even mention you are looking for a wife to ANYONE until you find her.
You may well sit next to your future wife on the plane as you fly over here and then all your plans will come to nothing because you will change them anyway so you can be with HER.
There are tall slim desirable girls EVERYWHERE in the world - the detailed internal debates that you are having in your mind in advance will cause so much stress for you that you will end up needing your holiday to recover from your pre-planning.
Sorry about the CAPS but I am trying to yell at you LOL.

Blackangst
06-14-10, 04:26
Best I can find on HA right from their website is $928 SanDiego/Manila. That's about $30 more than Expedia search (but haven't checked Expedia search lately and fares seem to change all the time and could be higher now). Thanks for the reference. Nice to have some airlines to check with directly.

Ah ok..prices may have gone up a bit. The thing about Hawaiian...no overseas layovers. Your layover is in Honolulu, and then direct from there to Manila. I prefer this as opposed to say Singapore or Hong Kong. Also make sure and look at the monthly view when requesting quotes...the day before or after may save you some $$$.

GregLondon
06-14-10, 04:41
greg, your posts are always filled with so much relevant information you have me back-pedaling now and double-checking my decisions. thanks again. i've not yet booked my flight so i want to quickly consider northern china now (given my height preference) if for no other reason to make sure i have no regrets following through with my plans for philippines. would i have as much fun looking for the right girl in dalian as i would in manilla/cebu/davao? i'm attracted to the low expense of vacationing in philippines along with the high degree of local mongering action should i not find my girl (could i expect a similar experience in dalian)? aside from finding a girl to possibly marry (yes tall and educated counts for marriage) i am also looking for an overdue and relaxing vacation filled with ample poon regardless of my success finding my one in a million. i'm not looking for free sex nor the professionals but rather the gfe offering gifts for overnight company, sex and companionship. i'm a business owner recovering from a hard hit economy so overall total trip cost matters (as much as i would probably want to pay for a professional 10 at some point during my travels i'd probably resist the temptation to save some coin).

given your stated objectives go to the phils. it would be crazy to go to dalian instead just because the girls are an inch or two taller on average. the p4p scene in china is overpriced and poor quality compared with elsewhere in asia. china is excellent hunting grounds for 30s40s guys looking for romantic adventures but requires some level of attractiveness and skill. all you need in phils is a heart beat and you should be fine.

in general

1 plan your itinerary according to where you want to go and then look for girls in those areas rather than rep001ter gunning dia and spending all your time flying around the phils meeting particular girls.

2 if you are looking for scenery beaches etc and not just an endless series of girls include places such as palawan, dumaguete/apo island/ bohol, malapascua, banaue (rice terraces), boracay in your plans as well as the big cities. in general its more difficult to find "open minded girls " in such places so unless you find some on dia or tagged (better for remote places) figure on bringing a girl from one of the population centres.

3 many girls will be delighted to come on free holidays to such places often it will be their first holiday they have taken ever.

4 rk is right you can overplan these things however those of us living /hanging out in the phils should remember a how many pitfalls a newbie asian traveller can make so asking lots of questions is actually pretty smart and b for those stuck in the sexual jail of us/eu/oz/nz actually planning these things and chatting to endless girls on dia is a big part of the pleasure of the whole thing. we cant all be on endless jollies kicking around asia, somebody has to be working to keep the lights on back home

Red Kilt
06-14-10, 06:45
................
in general

1 plan your itinerary according to where you want to go and then look for girls in those areas rather than rep001ter gunning dia and spending all your time flying around the phils meeting particular girls.

2 if you are looking for scenery beaches etc and not just an endless series of girls include places such as palawan, dumaguete/apo island/ bohol, malapascua, banaue (rice terraces), boracay in your plans as well as the big cities.................


re 1. i agree. pick 2 or 3 places (not ac if you want a wife) and just scout around.

re 2. travel is not that easy in the philippines and is frequently time-consuming. i have been working from north to south for 13 years here and it becomes very tiring especially if you have to fend for yourself (i dont as i have drivers waiting for me).
a trip to banaue (rice terraces) will take you a full day or a day and a half if you stay over. even with a simple manila to cebu trip it will take 4 - 5 hours out of your day hotel to hotel as you have to add on around 2 hours at the beginning to ensure that you get to the airport through the traffic and into the terminal with security checks. 1.25 hr for the flight and another 3/4 hr travel at the other end.

i am just giving you advance warning. remember that it is a relatively undeveloped country and the further away from the big cities then the more rustic the facilities and infrastructure becomes.

GregLondon
06-14-10, 06:57
Need Advice. Who uses the term "tour guide" when talking with a lady, or do you say "romantic touring" or "lover and tour guide".

Many girls would love the idea of being a "tour guide" as it implies a free trip and probably some payment. The difficulty is that using that term leads the question of sex open, and you really dont want someone on the pay roll who is not providing the required services. In terms of being a real tour guide, most of the girls will be pretty useless as few have travelled extensively, most will not appreciate the types of places westerners will want to go to and stay in.

"girl friend" implies too much in the phils - meet the parents and fairly serious. Probably "special companion" is what you are looking for and if she asks what that is say someone who can accompany you on your travels, sleep together and whatever else you are looking for

DoingOurDuty
06-14-10, 07:25
With all due respect DYD I think you are over-organising your trip.
Just decide on 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 places to go. You can never know who or what you will find, so just relax and wait for it to happen.

And DONT even mention you are looking for a wife to ANYONE until you find her.
You may well sit next to your future wife on the plane as you fly over here and then all your plans will come to nothing because you will change them anyway so you can be with HER.

There are tall slim desirable girls EVERYWHERE in the world - the detailed internal debates that you are having in your mind in advance will cause so much stress for you that you will end up needing your holiday to recover from your pre-planning.
Sorry about the CAPS but I am trying to yell at you LOL.LOL OK RK

Your point is well taken. In fact I will do exactly what you've suggested by the time I touch down in Manila to start my adventure (even without your warning). Meaning I will visit some major cities but also have some out of the way scenic locations in mind to visit with an appropriate companion (should I meet one who speaks good enough English and looks especially good to me) and I want to be flexible on the ground since I expect my plans could easily change depending on circumstances (I. E. The woman sitting next to me on the flight over; that would be nice). I should point out that after I made the post you're commenting, I pretty quickly got back on track to follow through with my original plans for the reasons you mention (and the fact that the Philippines appear to be the best value for my travel dollar everything taken into account).

I agree it's not wise to mention anything about wife shopping, but I will have one or maybe two meetings with women I have met on DIA/CB who I have been cam to cam recently. In those cases both are very aware I'm coming to Philippines to meet as many women as possible and that even if we have a great date together I will make no decisions about becoming serious until after I return home. And after I return home it may take me several months to sort out my experiences and get back to them (and only then would it be possible for a serious relationship to begin online with no guarantees of a positive outcome). They seem ok with that. Eventually I'll report back here whether it was wise or not.

I would be stressed if I didn't think through the possibilities before I book my flight and make my plans; my plans on the ground will be simple and open ended to provide lots of flexibility. My internal debate will conclude with a simple plan. If you still think I'm missing your point or making a mistake please comment again. I appreciate your experience and insight because I'm very obviously the *FNG here excited about making his first trip to your neck of the woods.

*FNG = Fucking New Guy

Econo Tech
06-14-10, 07:26
I am just giving you advance warning. Remember that it is a relatively undeveloped country and the further away from the big cities then the more rustic the facilities and infrastructure becomes.And don't plan your schedule back to back.

Like the time I flew to a far away island, and the travel was fun, at below pressurised level, in a BN - 2, and upon arriving in a 400 meter strip, when I asked the pilot if my return in two days is confirmed, he said something which I didn't understand. And later it turned out there had been a storm warning, and the flight didn't reach me until 4 days later - either the flight or risking a 24 hour ferry ride back to civilisation.

Ever since then, I don't plan anything back to back, even within Manila, as hours of delays are not very uncommon.

DoingOurDuty
06-14-10, 08:21
given your stated objectives go to the phils. it would be crazy to go to dalian instead just because the girls are an inch or two taller on average. the p4p scene in china is overpriced and poor quality compared with elsewhere in asia. china is excellent hunting grounds for 30s40s guys looking for romantic adventures but requires some level of attractiveness and skill. all you need in phils is a heart beat and you should be fine.

in general

1 plan your itinerary according to where you want to go and then look for girls in those areas rather than rep001ter gunning dia and spending all your time flying around the phils meeting particular girls.

2 if you are looking for scenery beaches etc and not just an endless series of girls include places such as palawan, dumaguete/apo island/ bohol, malapascua, banaue (rice terraces), boracay in your plans as well as the big cities. in general its more difficult to find "open minded girls " in such places so unless you find some on dia or tagged (better for remote places) figure on bringing a girl from one of the population centres.

3 many girls will be delighted to come on free holidays to such places often it will be their first holiday they have taken ever.

4 rk is right you can overplan these things however those of us living /hanging out in the phils should remember a how many pitfalls a newbie asian traveller can make so asking lots of questions is actually pretty smart and b for those stuck in the sexual jail of us/eu/oz/nz actually planning these things and chatting to endless girls on dia is a big part of the pleasure of the whole thing. we can't all be on endless jollies kicking around asia, somebody has to be working to keep the lights on back homegl,

thanks again for all your help. i actually decided against china after reading the isg china threads although i realize now that i find (in general) the facial appearance of chinese girls more attractive than philippinos (in addition to the height difference discussed here earlier). i notice many of the available china dolls 35 to 40 do not want men older than 45 or 50 so i get your point about hunting ground for 30s40s guys leaves me out. btw can you explain what happens to the faces of phili women as they get older; seems like their faces get puffy or bloated? i'm not meaning to be crude because i have a lot of respect for the philippine people, their culture and their women. is it something in their diet? or the result of just living a hard life in a hot humid climate with a lot of stress?

i especially like #3 (and ideas in #2) if i meet someone of interest in the major city (or less likely one of my dia contacts). regarding dia; i am a single man running a small business by myself living alone and just burnt-out with the local dating scene. so your insight is spot-on because i do feel as if i am in a sexual prison (and i would add an emotional/intimacy prison as well when it comes to companionship with the opposite sex) although i am single and free to date anyone i want in the states. so you're exactly right that part of the fun is to hunt on dia. but i want to clarify that i'm in no way planning my trip around meeting a bunch of pre-arranged contacts with women from the dating sites (i think that would be crazy although i may scan dia on location when there are no other options). there's no substitute for being on the ground and meeting women for the first time in person face to face to know my interest. i have looked at hundreds of profiles online and chatted with hundreds of girls; and from all that there is one girl i talk to once a week who looks very good to me and i will look forward to taking her out on a date. do i think i will have the same feelings about her after i meet her in person? i have no idea. if i had to guess not better than a 50/50 chance so it could certainly be a waste of time but it sure feels good right now.

Wicked Roger
06-14-10, 11:11
Re 1. I agree. Pick 2 or 3 places (not AC if you want a wife) and just scout around.

Re 2. Travel is not that easy in the Philippines and is frequently time-consuming.

Even with a simple Manila to Cebu trip it will take 4 - 5 hours out of your day hotel to hotel as you have to add on around 2 hours at the beginning to ensure that you get to the airport through the traffic and into the terminal with security checks. 1.25 hr for the flight and another 3/4 hr travel at the other end.

I am just giving you advance warning. Remember that it is a relatively undeveloped country and the further away from the big cities then the more rustic the facilities and infrastructure becomes.

Even the planes can be very lte and some not go at all as I found out a while back which meant a 9 hour bus ride to Manila....2 of those stuck in the Manila suburbs trying to get to Cubao and Pasay...so allow lots of time and dont go to many places.

Utlrapilot (a good mate) sticks to one place and while not wife seeking he has lots of fun....but he has issues with girls not turning up so RTFF and you will plenty advise about Plan A, B C...etc

Try not to fall in love with the first girl or second or tenth :D please take your time, see if they ask for cash immediately or gifts or drag you to the mall or bring all the family to feed at your expense (all these have happen to many of us at some time or another). As GL sad, meeting family means more significance to them and the girl will lose tons of face if after that meeting you are a dog and dump her...so try not to do that - have a heart.

Everyone will want to be your wife ....... you are western and are a chance out of poverty...and it is real poverty for some girls on DIA ...so anyone will do despite the man being an ignorant useless fat pig...he is western lives in teh west there he must be richer than the girl...QED

Good hunting and good luck. You find the guys on this Board full of useful tips so please heed some of them..well we all sometimes think with our smaller head :)

Amavida
06-14-10, 16:32
Met this one on DIA and she was pretty much ready to come to where ever I was with no hesitation. I am in cebu city right now, just arrived today. We're chatting away and then she says that she's been to the hotel where I'm staying. She asks if I want to see the American she met there before, I declined but it was too late. It was picture after picture of this older guy just pounding the shit out of her. Pretty funny stuff. Here's her DIA profile. Anyone know her?

PathrixiahNah but I've known many like her. She's just up the street from me in Olongapo according to her profile so I could go try her out for ya? hehehe i jest.

In regards to the pics, kinda cools your ardour when you see what they have been spreading their legs for prior to you huh?

I met a very pretty super cute innocent looking very young little girl from Dipolog who was keen. Very easy to talk to. Started showing me pics on her cell phone of her 'Chinese businessman' previous BF. Some really ancient ugly old asian guy.. I'm like ah no thanks love, seen enuff ok?


AV

Marconista
06-15-10, 00:27
Very true WR, try to avoid falling in love with the girls.
Its so easy and many guys have in the past and will in the future.

Happened to me also on one of my early visits in the 90ties.

Since attached in Europe I always travel to the Phils with a heart of stone to avoid falling for all the beauties and just enjoy them with a great smile on my face every hour I am with them.

A distant friend of mine told me about his friends that had been to Thailand and the Phils. It was one evening sitting under the midnight sun with some moonshine at the summerhouse and he shared with me that "all" his friends had been lured by the ladies as in making the guys fall in love with them, causing them to send money and support them after having visited the countries for a week or two. Stupid is as stupid does, but I guess many are not really prepared of what they are getting into.

So - @doingourduty; It is too easy to fall in love with a low-voiced sweet talking, beautiful lady, and in an instant you dont know what hit you except that you find that you are in love.
BTW, I have a pinay female friend that is 5'10 he he he... married and well off now I have to add. But they are out there.

Cant wait to be back, but no schedule as of now.

GregLondon
06-15-10, 02:13
GL,

Thanks again for all your help. I actually decided against China after reading the ISG China threads although I realize now that I find (in general) the facial appearance of Chinese girls more attractive than Philippinos (in addition to the height difference discussed here earlier). I notice many of the available China dolls 35 to 40 do not want men older than 45 or 50 so I get your point about hunting ground for 30s40s guys leaves me out. BTW can you explain what happens to the faces of phili women as they get older; seems like their faces get puffy or bloated? I'm not meaning to be crude because I have a lot of respect for the Philippine people, their culture and their women. Is it something in their diet? Or the result of just living a hard life in a hot humid climate with a lot of stress?

I especially like #3 (and ideas in #2) if I meet someone of interest in the major city (or less likely one of my DIA contacts). Regarding DIA; I am a single man running a small business by myself living alone and just burnt-out with the local dating scene. So your insight is spot-on because I do feel as if I am in a sexual prison (and I would add an emotional/intimacy prison as well when it comes to companionship with the opposite sex) although I am single and free to date anyone I want in the States. So you're exactly right that part of the fun is to hunt on DIA. But I want to clarify that I'm in no way planning my trip around meeting a bunch of pre-arranged contacts with women from the dating sites (I think that would be crazy although I may scan DIA on location when there are no other options). There's no substitute for being on the ground and meeting women for the first time in person face to face to know my interest. I have looked at hundreds of profiles online and chatted with hundreds of girls; and from all that there is one girl I talk to once a week who looks very good to me and I will look forward to taking her out on a date. Do I think I will have the same feelings about her after I meet her in person? I have no idea. If I had to guess not better than a 50/50 chance so it could certainly be a waste of time but it sure feels good right now.


There is a well known rule of thumb that the "socially acceptable" age difference is Male age/2 + 7 . ie if you are say 60 then its socially acceptable to be with a girl aged 37 and up. I would say that in China this rule applies (and remember that in China Westerners are interfacing primarily with the relatively wealthy/educated middle classes rather than the peasant girls with 2 or 3 words of English. But Chinese girl in a Westerner/Chinese relationship are more comfortable being at eh young extreme end of this rule than most Western girls.

Probably the number 1 attraction of the Philippines, even more than Jollybees is that apart from the elite rich girls more than this below this.

However I'm not sure that what works in the Philippines will necessarily work if you take her home. I think the 60 year old guys who marry a 19 year old beauty and take her back to the US are running a considerable risk that the relationship will break down as she attracts many much younger guys in the US, but that is speculation on my part.

In terms of the average looks of Philipina I would agree that the average Filipina is not as pretty as the average SEA girl - there are alot of plain girls in China and Japan too when you get there but the ones you see in magazines/TV etc are often very cute. However the good thing about the Phils is that half decent guys dont really need to settle for "average" here and amongst the say top 10% there are some really pretty and available girls.

I tend to agree that many Filipinas dont age so well. The diet here is not very healthy. Many Filipinas are slim mainly because they just cant afford so much junk food, but if you take them to the US they easily put on weight.

Orangevale Rob
06-15-10, 02:14
Met this one on DIA and she was pretty much ready to come to where ever I was with no hesitation. I am in cebu city right now, just arrived today. We're chatting away and then she says that she's been to the hotel where I'm staying. She asks if I want to see the American she met there before, I declined but it was too late. It was picture after picture of this older guy just pounding the shit out of her. Pretty funny stuff. Here's her DIA profile. Anyone know her?

Pathrixiah

Hey, I looked her up and I just chatted with her. She let me see her cam. Uh, I'm pretty sure that's a man. If she isn't a man now, she was born one. The one in the cam did not match up real well with the pics she sent me either. She differs from the woman in the pics in the following respect: She looks like a man. :)

GregLondon
06-15-10, 02:33
Hey, I looked her up and I just chatted with her. She let me see her cam. Uh, I'm pretty sure that's a man. If she isn't a man now, she was born one. The one in the cam did not match up real well with the pics she sent me either. She differs from the woman in the pics in the following respect: She looks like a man. :)

Having "undecided" or "no" for do you want kids is usually a leading indicator

plus all the stuff about pics being misleading

Orangevale Rob
06-15-10, 05:50
Having "undecided" or "no" for do you want kids is usually a leading indicator

plus all the stuff about pics being misleading

Actually his profile pic is probably him, but just made up really well. The rest were someone else.

FurryFriend
06-15-10, 17:36
I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.

I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.

My opening msg would say "Hi there, would you like to be friends?" Is this message bad? What do you guys usually say as the first message? Or is my dismal response rate typical on DIA?

Questor 55
06-15-10, 19:20
I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.

I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.

My opening msg would say "Hi there, would you like to be friends?" Is this message bad? What do you guys usually say as the first message? Or is my dismal response rate typical on DIA?A 10% interest response on DIA really sucks, so you are doing something wrong FF. It could be in your choice of name or headline (quite possible as many girls don't seem to actually read an entire profile.)

Did you state that you are planning a visit (soon) to P.I. ? How about
"Seriously looking for a girlfriend" as opposed to "Wishing to shag everyone I can lay my hands on" ?

Usually the response rate will be in excess of 75%. Often it is enough to simply log on to the site and they should be contacting you in significant numbers.

However, it is fair to say that prejudice does exist among filipinas.
Most will shy away from Arabs, East Indians, and very dark skin is
often viewed as less than desirable.

To sum up: Appealing header, friendly looking photo and innocuous
profile banter should do the trick. It's like fishing.... If they ain't biting,
change the bait !

DoingOurDuty
06-15-10, 19:21
I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.

I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.

My opening msg would say "Hi there, would you like to be friends?" Is this message bad? What do you guys usually say as the first message? Or is my dismal response rate typical on DIA?Ff I'm a newbie here too but in the past 6 weeks I've learned a great deal about the dating sites. First I joined International Cupid for 30 days. When that membership expired I decided to focus on Asian girls and joined both DIA and CB (had to pay for CB but DIA is free). In a little more than two weeks I have received over 1000 emails on CB (for the most part unsolicited by me and many of the girls email more than once hoping to get a reply; so so there are probably 500+ women responding so far). Meanwhile, DIA generates far fewer emails. Because DIA does not offer a chat window, I have sometimes used the email there to chat back and forth with a girl if she happens to be online. I also notice that I will get emails on DIA after I have opened profiles of the more attractive women (they see I have looked at their profile and then send email showing interest and this happens very quickly on CB too). So the more profiles you open on DIA the more mail you get. I have also sent a small number of emails and eventually chatted cam to cam with many women from both sites using yahoo messenger. I don't think it matters too much what you write in your profile. If you say you're "serious" be careful because that's code word for "I want you to be my wife".

OFF-TOPIC to your question but related...

There are several reasons to use these sites. But if you're interested in a serious relationship it's better to just plan a trip to the Philippines and meet girls face to face. If you're just looking for some booty it's still better to just plan a trip to Philippines and not use CB and DIA until you're on the ground and you may not need the internet to scout local girls. I'm planning my first trip now so I know much less about how useful CB and DIA may be when there. I'm going for a vacation with the purpose of getting some booty but also looking for possible long-term relationship wife. I will be the first to tell you that I don't think the success of my upcoming trip is improved any by meeting girls beforehand on CB and DIA.

I've met one girl that I cam to cam with once a week now from online personals (met on DIA) and it is very interesting to learn about her life. I will meet her in person when I visit Philippines but I am realistic and not serious about her unless good attraction in person (although I see how easy it could be to fall in love especially using webcams and similarly when meeting in person). Even if we meet and have strong mutual attraction I will still meet as many women as I can on my trip. I do not want my trip to be comprised of meeting DIA contacts because I am convinced there are so many opportunities on the ground it is far better to do your shopping in person than online before trip. She is 5'5" (hope this is accurate because I like taller women and RK mentioned maybe some women are not sure of their height) and weighs only 99lbs. When we first met on cam she said she would try to eat more because she thinks she looks too thin (but when I asked if she has enough to east she said yes and says she is frustrated because she eats extra and still cannot gain weight). She is embarrassed by her appearance because people make the assumption she does not have enough money for food. She says maybe it is genetic and comes from her father (that's what I was hoping since I like skinny athletic women). I've looked through 500 profiles to find her and chatted with 100's of girls and had many cam to cam sessions with other girls to find this one; but I understand meeting in person could be very different than my online attraction.

DoingOurDuty
06-15-10, 19:49
However I'm not sure that what works in the Philippines will necessarily work if you take her home. I think the 60 year old guys who marry a 19 year old beauty and take her back to the US are running a considerable risk that the relationship will break down as she attracts many much younger guys in the US, but that is speculation on my part.I think 20 years max is good if you want the relationship to last without divorce (in the USA anyway). I will be 56 soon and would be embarrassed to have a 20 year old wife and I look young for my age. But I have no problem being attracted to these girls (fortunately I have no kids because if I had a daughter in her early 20's it would spoil it for me). As far as perceptions go; most Americans are probably less able to guess age of Asian woman since most are not very familiar this race and appearance.

DoingOurDuty
06-15-10, 19:54
So - @doingourduty; It is too easy to fall in love with a low-voiced sweet talking, beautiful lady, and in an instant you dont know what hit you except that you find that you are in love.

BTW, I have a pinay female friend that is 5'10 he he he... married and well off now I have to add. But they are out there.Marc,

Thank you for the encouragement. 5’6” to 5’9” thin and athletic melts my butter (assuming pretty face).

FurryFriend
06-16-10, 00:11
Thanks to your replies on my lack of response on DIA!

Actually, I just noticed that 80% of the girls haven't logged on to DIA after I sent my message. So they simply didn't read it yet. That may explain my dismal response rate.

Can some of you share what you normally write in your first message to the girl?

GregLondon
06-16-10, 02:19
Thanks to your replies on my lack of response on DIA!

Actually, I just noticed that 80% of the girls haven't logged on to DIA after I sent my message. So they simply didn't read it yet. That may explain my dismal response rate.

Can some of you share what you normally write in your first message to the girl?

As somebody else said the girls are kind of racist and most are looking for white guys from North America, Europe or Australasia. if that's not you then you probably have to accept a lower run rate.

In terms of photos most guys either dont have any pic or a very poor shot. They will still get plenty of contacts but the risk is that the more popular girls dont bother. A 18-30 year old girl with a half decent profile and a good pic, no kids slim etc will probably get 50-100 messages a day depending how often she logs on so if you want to get her attention you need to stand out somehow. On the other hand the plain janes from the province maybe with a kid or two maybe only get 2 or 3 messages a day and need to be proactive.

If you want to improve you run rate with the higher quality girls try a photo where you are smiling, looking at the camera, not wearing sunglasses etc and if you are white, looking white. they are not looking for Robert De Nero but someone who looks decent and honest.

The next thing to do is to fill out your profile completely and have a short para . be clear and frank as to what you are really looking for and whether you have specific plans to come to the Phils.

On DIA you can largely forget about the girls who initiate contact you as they are invariably either scammers or girls getting 2-3 messages themselves. The high quality attractive girls are getting too swamped to be proactive.

CB is different because it is a pay site so even good quality girls wil be lucky to get 15 messages a day so you are going to get many girls just messaging or winking at you trying to drum up business.

ifv you do have real plans to come to the phils then you should probably start a message with this. Hi I'm Mike from the USA planning my first trip to Phils in August etc etc

For further advice you need to tell us a bit about what your situation is and what you are looking for

FurryFriend
06-16-10, 03:33
I'm Chinese-American, so I guess I'll have to accept a lower hit rate. That's OK.

My header says something like "looking for friendship, maybe more later". I guess that's a little too soft, especially now that I'm surfing for guy's profile and seeing what otherse are writing. And my opening message seems equally soft. I say something like "Hi, there, would you like to be friends?". I guess this site isn't for friendship.

Why would girls pay to be on CherryBlossoms when DIA is free? I get lots of hits on CB, almost all of it unsolicited.

I shouldn't have said I'm getting only a 10% reply rate. 80% of girls whom I've messaged hasn't even logged in to read it.

Member #3438
06-16-10, 04:05
I am getting responses to about 9 out of 10 messages I sent out. Some I tell flat out that I am there for just fun. Others I just play along and tell them that we will see what happens.

All of them seem interested and want to meet for whatever.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.

I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.

Buko Max
06-16-10, 04:15
I will be the first to tell you that I don't think the success of my upcoming trip is improved any by meeting girls beforehand on CB and DIA.
Yes perhaps but it is always good to have a friend you can fall back on as a first time visitor in a strange city.

GregLondon
06-16-10, 04:16
I'm Chinese-American, so I guess I'll have to accept a lower hit rate. That's OK.

My header says something like "looking for friendship, maybe more later". I guess that's a little too soft, especially now that I'm surfing for guy's profile and seeing what otherse are writing. And my opening message seems equally soft. I say something like "Hi, there, would you like to be friends?". I guess this site isn't for friendship.

Why would girls pay to be on CherryBlossoms when DIA is free? I get lots of hits on CB, almost all of it unsolicited.

I shouldn't have said I'm getting only a 10% reply rate. 80% of girls whom I've messaged hasn't even logged in to read it.

There are several issues here.

1 Many Asian guys have plenty of luck in the Phils. Cebu for example is full of South Koreans and many girls prefer them for a variety of reasons. However these guys tend not to signup to an English site such as DIA which consequently attracts mainly girls with a preference for white "americans" (ie westerners).

2 Some girls are racist re skin colour/facial features/size etc not much you can do about that. Other girls are wary about ethnic Chinese because of the sometimes bad attitude or cultural mismatch eg poor language skills/sense of humour etc. If you are an ABC banana as the chinese would say then you need to emphasise that you live/were born in the US and maybe that you combine the best of both cultures.

Of course all this does rather depend on what you are looking for if you are just looking for sex for cash your Pesos are as good as anyone elses and you wiont have many problems. i am assuming that you are looking for some sort of medium term GFE.

3 Stuff about lets be friends is way too wooly. Most of the decent girls really dont want to be a unpaid virtual gf fro a lonely guy in California chatting for months.

4 CB is free for girls and paid for men. That means that the ratios are relatively favourable for guys. Even top girls will just get 20% the number of messages on CB than on DIA, that means they tend to be more proactive and will spend wime messaging and smiling at guys.

5 you should also try tagged.com which is a kind of failed facebook/social site which doubles as a dating site as it allows unlimited free messaging, loads of pics and age/location searching

Red Kilt
06-16-10, 04:28
.........Why would girls pay to be on CherryBlossoms when DIA is free? I get lots of hits on CB, almost all of it unsolicited...............

As GL said, most of the sites, CB included, have subscription rates for men but women are free.
Adult Friend Finder (AFF) occasionally has short-term freebie offers for men (like 24 hours free messaging) to get you hooked on the site so that then you will pay.
AFF is almost 100% women looking for sex except an occasional naive one who strays on accidentally and then wonders WTF.

GregLondon
06-16-10, 04:36
As GL said, most of the sites, CB included, have subscription rates for men but women are free.
Adult Friend Finder (AFF) occasionally has short-term freebie offers for men (like 24 hours free messaging) to get you hooked on the site so that then you will pay.
AFF is almost 100% women looking for sex except an occasional naive one who strays on accidentally and then wonders WTF.

Have you had much luck with Adult FF? 10 years ago I used to use Asia Friend finder which was great at the time but completely lost it.

Is AFF full of overpriced hookers? or genuine good prospects?

Red Kilt
06-16-10, 07:04
Have you had much luck with Adult FF? 10 years ago I used to use Asia Friend finder which was great at the time but completely lost it.

Is AFF full of overpriced hookers? or genuine good prospects?

I had a 3 months subscription 2 years ago when I had just discovered the internet as a contact medium.
I met quite a few women who were not hookers and many who were looking for fun on the side. I got a few contacts at the time and so kept them going for a while after my sub lapsed. Probably like you GL, I no longer pay for access to any websites (DIA is my sole site) as there are plenty of prospects as soon as you walk out the door.

Robbaf
06-16-10, 12:35
I had a 3 months subscription 2 years ago when I had just discovered the internet as a contact medium.
I met quite a few women who were not hookers and many who were looking for fun on the side. I got a few contacts at the time and so kept them going for a while after my sub lapsed. Probably like you GL, I no longer pay for access to any websites (DIA is my sole site) as there are plenty of prospects as soon as you walk out the door.
I pay for a month when I am in the US and only the US. It works great for casual.

But I also use Craigslist and it works great for free.

Robb

Jiggy
06-16-10, 14:47
For the unwary there are alot of ladyboys on DIA so make sure u try before you buy ;)

WestCoast1
06-16-10, 16:36
I think 20 years max is good if you want the relationship to last without divorce (in the USA anyway). I will be 56 soon and would be embarrassed to have a 20 year old wife and I look young for my age. But I have no problem being attracted to these girls (fortunately I have no kids because if I had a daughter in her early 20's it would spoil it for me). As far as perceptions go; most Americans are probably less able to guess age of Asian woman since most are not very familiar this race and appearance.I'm at a resort two years ago. At the pool one day is a pretty 19-20 year-old blond sunbathing. A waitress comes by taking drink orders. The blond says, "Yez is zoe hot here. Do you have blah blah blah. " Heavy Russian accent. Later in the evening my gf and I are heading into the restraunt for dinner. We are seated at a table right next to the table were the Russian girl is sitting. With her is a mid-50's gent, grey hair. Trim and fit. He appears to be her father. A waiter comes over and takes their drink order. The gent asks for whatever drink, in perfect norte americano english. The waiter says, "And for your daughter sir? " Instant embarrassment for everyone, and the waiter had no idea he had said something embarassing. The gent said, "She's my WIFE! " The girl blushed. Hell, even I blushed. Few things say married ho like that situation.

I find it interesting, the older a man gets, the larger that age gap gets in his mind. Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl. I'd keep that max age difference to 15 years, no more. While living with a young honey is great (in your mind), walking around with her is a whole other story. Only in filipines is this (kind of) acceptable. And girls there only do it with foreigners. Its accepted in AC, because that's a puta capital. Outside of filipines.

Red Kilt
06-17-10, 07:43
While living with a young honey is great (in your mind), walking around with her is a whole other story. Only in filipines is this (kind of) acceptable. And girls there only do it with foreigners. Its accepted in AC, because that's a puta capital.

Just to reiterate what you are saying:
Many 50 + guys hook up with and even marry 20 year olds and AT THAT TIME it seems to be OK all round.
But they forget to add on 15 - 20 years. The guy is 65 - 70 and probably having a few health issues as well as taking Vitamin V every day to keep up with his 35 -40 year old who is in her prime sexual years.

Many of the girls on DIA and AFF are in this situation. A number have told me so.
I have a friend in Cebu that I discreetly meet whenever I visit because her husband is too old and cannot keep her happy (sexually), but pampers her in many different ways

The Departed
06-17-10, 20:02
"Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl."

The hot 40 year old babes like the toy boys. Check out night clubs to see what I mean. If oyu can't bring money or power to the matrimonial suite (when hubby is away), you must bring young and fresh meat.

In Vientam, the guys marry overweight Taiwanese hags. The bigger the cargo, the bigger the dowry.

Gtrock123
06-17-10, 23:34
So, planning my first trip at the end of July to either the Phillippines or Bangkok. If I go to te Phillippines it will be my firt vist. So the question is...where to go if I decided on the Phillippines? I'm flying in from Hong Kong, have a 6 day window.

Suggestions?

I'm leaning towards ANgles city but not sure I'll get a prime hotel, but the place sounds fun.

Marconista
06-18-10, 01:12
he he... a good one.
But nevertheless true, since I have seen more than a few pinoys (sailors on leave in port) that picked up BBW (ugh!) in Hamburg and Amsterdam saying that they GOT A LOT for what they paid.


In Vientam, the guys marry overweight Taiwanese hags. The bigger the cargo, the bigger the dowry.

GregLondon
06-18-10, 02:27
"Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl."

The hot 40 year old babes like the toy boys. Check out night clubs to see what I mean. If oyu can't bring money or power to the matrimonial suite (when hubby is away), you must bring young and fresh meat.

In Vientam, the guys marry overweight Taiwanese hags. The bigger the cargo, the bigger the dowry.

Yes in Africa especially Egypt, Morocco, Kenya, The Gambia, Senegal female sex tourism is big business. It's common to see overweight middle aged white women with Emanuel Adebayor lookalikes. The Japanese girls seem to prefer a trip to Bali to pick up the young Indonesian surfer dudes.

FreebieFan
06-18-10, 05:32
I find it interesting, the older a man gets, the larger that age gap gets in his mind. Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl. I'd keep that max age difference to 15 years, no more. While living with a young honey is great (in your mind), walking around with her is a whole other story. Only in filipines is this (kind of) acceptable. And girls there only do it with foreigners. Its accepted in AC, because that's a puta capital. Outside of filipines.Just spent a delightful few days in East Malaysia. Took my 21 year old Indonesian student. Im the same 50+ suave fit cool looking guy as in your story. No one batted an eyelid, alothugh most guys on withh a certain element of jealousy.

Not only in the Philippines. I see same in Singapore, Hong Kong, China etc etc. Get out and travel more and look at the world with eyes more than half open and not half closed.

GregLondon
06-18-10, 08:10
So, planning my first trip at the end of July to either the Phillippines or Bangkok. If I go to te Phillippines it will be my firt vist. So the question is...where to go if I decided on the Phillippines? I'm flying in from Hong Kong, have a 6 day window.

Suggestions?

I'm leaning towards ANgles city but not sure I'll get a prime hotel, but the place sounds fun.

If you want the bar girl scene go to Angeles, if you want the freelancer/non pros go to Cebu, if you want scenery/romance go to Palawan

Wicked Roger
06-18-10, 08:41
Just spent a delightful few days in East Malaysia. Took my 21 year old Indonesian student. Im the same 50+ suave fit cool looking guy as in your story. No one batted an eyelid, alothugh most guys on withh a certain element of jealousy.

Not only in the Philippines. I see same in Singapore, Hong Kong, China etc etc. Get out and travel more and look at the world with eyes more than half open and not half closed.

Suave, fit, cool looking........so who was it I met the other week :D Unless of course it was me you were confusing yourself with :)

Seriously, am easy about walking around my my cutie, dont care which country...all about confidence and reailsing that some are very jealous....

I know the 'issues' of western countries but IMHO that is due to narrow minded views (and some jealousy).

When I was in SM Mall my cutie got jealous looks from some of girls, I got the eye from some of those girls and some guy saw us and then compared his cutie to mine..was very amusing

Be confident, dont think about what others, think just have fun...and realise many guys wish it was them in your place

BTW my age difference is 30+ with my cutie....and I love it :)

Nvslim
06-18-10, 08:53
I know the 'issues' of western countries but IMHO that is due to narrow minded views (and some jealousy).

Be confident, dont think about what others, think just have fun...and realise many guys wish it was them in your place

BTW my age difference is 30+ with my cutie....and I love it :)



First time I took my Pinay wife home to a Southern US state, you should have seen the looks we got. Some was the age difference and some was the fact the people were backward fucks who had never been more than 50 miles from home.

She is only 14 years my junior and my military buddies accused me of cradle robbing since she looked so young. They had no room for accusations since one of their wives looked even younger than mine but about the same age.

Slim

FreebieFan
06-18-10, 10:11
Suave, fit, cool looking. So who was it I met the other week Unless of course it was me you were confusing yourself with

Seriously, am easy about walking around my my cutie, don't care which country. All about confidence and reailsing that some are very jealous.

I know the 'issues' of western countries but IMHO that is due to narrow minded views (and some jealousy).

When I was in SM Mall my cutie got jealous looks from some of girls, I got the eye from some of those girls and some guy saw us and then compared his cutie to mine. Was very amusing

Be confident, don't think about what others, think just have fun. And realise many guys wish it was them in your place

BTW my age difference is 30+ with my cutie. And I love itSsssssh WR. Don't tell anyone I'm not quite so suave or cool. I have to keep up appearances. Age difference on most recent trip, 32 years! I'm lovin it!

Tally Wacker
06-18-10, 15:26
I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.

Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?

All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?

The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in usa.

White Whale
06-18-10, 19:25
I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.

Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?

All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?

The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in usa.

There are 7/11s, Ministops and alike all around main chocolate brand being Hershey´s. Must mean something else. I guess IPhone would seal the deal :) IPhone is not a Ferrari if you look more close into it. Maybe a Ferrari with family car engine. It is mid category phone with excellent usability for main stream users.

White Whale
06-18-10, 19:37
Ssssssh WR. Don't tell anyone I'm not quite so suave or cool. I have to keep up appearances. Age difference on most recent trip, 32 years! I'm lovin it!

Is she going be changing your dipers? You as all of us will eventually be in that age...

FreebieFan
06-19-10, 05:56
I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.

Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?

All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?

The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in usa.It means they like to be given chocolates. Nothing strange about that. The more adventurous ones will ask for perfume. But most will be happy that you show some " care" by bringing some chocolates. Every Filipina asks for them.

Its normal. And has nothing to do with payment.

Buko Max
06-19-10, 06:10
Ssssssh WR. Don't tell anyone I'm not quite so suave or cool.
If you were suave you would have a cigarette dangling from your mouth! :rolleyes:

Radoboy
06-19-10, 06:40
I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (USA) like Chocolates.

Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?

All the fancy Chocolates in USA come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?

The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in USA.Nope they actually mean chocolates. Its not code, though it did seem odd to me. Good old Cadbury or Toblerone costing about $2 or $3, not fancy individually wrapped gifts. Think quantity not quality.

Nice girls will ask you for them – even in a pushy way. The value these women place on a $3 chocolate bar is psychologically about $200. (my estimate)

Most of these candy bars can be purchased there. But the fact it travelled on the plane makes it better some how.

It's a bit like flowers in the west. A $20 bunch of flowers scores more highly than a $300 necklace. Women have a weird scale of value. Don't argue! Just use it to your advantage.

Check out Dragon Slayers forum and search for the word "chocolate" – he may explain it better

Next time I go I will again take as much as possible. At worst you can use them to "tip" a hotel receptionist. That can reap fantastic rewards.

I too have been asked for major gifts. Like a notebook. They think if you are Foreigner you are a billionaire. Just smile and say. They are very expensive here. Are they cheap there?

Anyway – load your luggage limit with $3 chocolate bars and be generous with them. If, after your trip, you say I am wrong, I will personally refund you the price of the chocolates you bought – no proof needed, I'll take your word for it.

Bon Voyage

Wicked Roger
06-19-10, 08:16
I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.

Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?

All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?

.
Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands

I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone

Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.

Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive

Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip

Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting

X Man
06-19-10, 11:34
WR,

I usually just buy the Cadbury or whatever in the Philippines. Is it really much cheaper elsewhwere? It's available where I am at the moment, but I never thought to price check.

The best value chocolate I ever took to the Philippines was some cheap milk choco that I bought wrapped in foil and looking like coins. I shared it with some bikini-clad gals at EDSA. They enjoyed it. As you might expect there were the usual jokes about paying the bf with these choco coins. No takers.

But then some 18yr old newbie approached and she really thought it was silver and gold coin. Her eyes got almost as big as the chocolate coins. As you might expect, the other gals teased her mercilessly. But she was a good sport about it.

Ah, chocolate.


Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands

I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone

Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.

Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive

Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip

Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting

Tally Wacker
06-19-10, 15:11
Thanks Roger.

I actualy thought when they asked for chocolate that they were suggesting other things. What simple creatures :)

I went out last night and did exactly what you said and purchased alot of imported chocolate. Btw Hershey's sucks. Lol. Just kidding, Hershey is actualy my chocolate bar of choice but the quality of european chocolate is of course much better.


Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands

I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone

Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.

Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive

Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip

Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting

Thaifun
06-19-10, 15:37
Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands

I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone

Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.

Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive

Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip

Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting


catburry was not fit to be considered chocolate outside England within the EU until very recently. They got that distinction thru some dirty political deals. Hersheeeeyyys, well what do Americans know about food.

More practical. If you fly in from Europe, just buy some cheap dark chocolate, no brand name in any cheap supermarket. Same quality, 80% or more cheaper and, guess, it comes from the same factory.

I had great success with some Polish dark chocolate sold Eu-wide.

So buy lots of cheap stuff, dont pay for the packaging and use the savings for nice things

FreebieFan
06-19-10, 16:17
If you were suave you would have a cigarette dangling from your mouth! :rolleyes:Unless you are being sarcastic. You would never see a cigarette dangling from my mouth. Maybe a nipple. Rolls eyes twice over.

FreebieFan
06-19-10, 16:19
Is she going be changing your dipers? You as all of us will eventually be in that age...Sorry, but my English dictionary doesn't quite help me understand what it is that you are trying to say. Try writing in English maybe?

Tally Wacker
06-19-10, 18:56
You can find some of the best BBQ, Japanese, French, Thai, Mexican, Spanish & Italian restaurants here in USA. All considered American food. We dont knock what other countries do better thank us we just enjoy it. Then we bring it here to the usa, franchise it and and sell it back to you. We know alot of things about good food :)

And I bet you the #1 selling candy bar in the world is probably Hershey's. Obviously not of the same fine quality of european chocolate but I guess some people like it.

Oh, I forgot this was a sex site not a food review. Lol

[QUOTE= Hersheeeeyyys, well what do Americans know about food.[/QUOTE]

Marconista
06-20-10, 01:30
Yeah... whatever... always number 1, di ba?


You can find some of the best BBQ, Japanese, French, Thai, Mexican, Spanish & Italian restaurants here in USA. All considered American food. We dont knock what other countries do better thank us we just enjoy it. Then we bring it here to the usa, franchise it and and sell it back to you. We know alot of things about good food :)

And I bet you the #1 selling candy bar in the world is probably Hershey's. Obviously not of the same fine quality of european chocolate but I guess some people like it.

Oh, I forgot this was a sex site not a food review. Lol

GregLondon
06-20-10, 01:54
Filipina's certainly have a sweet tooth. There is way too much sugar in many Filipina dishes. You only have to look at the economics to see why so many young Pinays are so keen on it. Take an average family with a family income of say 400P a day and 5 kids, a tiny 35g hershays costs about 60P here - you can see the kids arent going to be eating chocolate every day.

As others have said if you bring some focus on quantity rather than packaging/quality. Bumper slabs fro0m the local supermarket.

However much you bring, unless you post an armed guard outside your fridge door, there may not be too much left after 3 or 4 days.

On a more serious note this is an issue for those marrying Pinays. The fact is that the average Filipina is say 3kg heavier than an average Thai girl and 6 kg heavier than a Cambodian/Viet girl. Once the restraints of poverty are lifted they seem to put on the pounds faster than you might hope. You may get more than you bargained for - literally.

Puerto La Cruz
06-20-10, 04:02
Filipina's certainly have a sweet tooth. There is way too much sugar in many Filipina dishes. You only have to look at the economics to see why so many young Pinays are so keen on it. Take an average family with a family income of say 400P a day and 5 kids, a tiny 35g hershays costs about 60P here - you can see the kids arent going to be eating chocolate every day.

As others have said if you bring some focus on quantity rather than packaging/quality. Bumper slabs fro0m the local supermarket.

However much you bring, unless you post an armed guard outside your fridge door, there may not be too much left after 3 or 4 days.

On a more serious note this is an issue for those marrying Pinays. The fact is that the average Filipina is say 3kg heavier than an average Thai girl and 6 kg heavier than a Cambodian/Viet girl. Once the restraints of poverty are lifted they seem to put on the pounds faster than you might hope. You may get more than you bargained for - literally.

And wait until you see one of those girls in the USA 5 years after she has divorced her "beloved" and put on about 15 kgs. Brown American cow then.

GregLondon
06-21-10, 07:47
We all know that DIA and Tagged are probably the top sites to get short time semi pro girls in the phils.

I have a couple of girls who I've spend much of the last month with who have asked me how they can best find a decent western husband. These are nice quality educated but open minded girls and i think would be attractive to many guys looking for a wife. What are people's views as to the best site for them to put up a profile????

Red Kilt
06-21-10, 08:23
We all know that DIA and Tagged are probably the top sites to get short time semi pro girls in the phils.

I have a couple of girls who I've spend much of the last month with who have asked me how they can best find a decent western husband. These are nice quality educated but open minded girls and i think would be attractive to many guys looking for a wife. What are people's views as to the best site for them to put up a profile????

Meetic Asia seems to be good for serious people

http://asia.meetic.com/

I have had some friends find success there.

There are various sites - Meetic Asia, Meetic Europe etc. Google Meetic to get the one best suited

The Departed
06-21-10, 13:46
Interesting post about sugar. Cheap Thai food is certainly healthier than the Jollibee type muck Pinoys eat. The fascination with chocolate (not found in Thailand where gold is preferred) is also interesting.

I am in Davao del Norte at the moment. The shit young Pinays have to go through to get a shit job defies belief. They need police clearance, health cert (scam where the private hospital makes them buy over priced medicine junk they do not need to get the cert), voters' reg cert and so on. All of these cost about 1,500 pesos and can involve travelling as well and days lost to collect them. No wonder the ouside world looks so appealing.

And then we have their total naiivity. They comer from dirt poor families who know nothing about anything.

I picked up a hooker in Davao city and did the ultimate walk of shame with her. Up the main street being greeted by hundreds of her fellow hookers. I felt like a big tuna being shown to the less lucky fishermen.

Back to my room where she started a massage and I started to drowse as i was so tired. When I opened my eyes, she had emptied most of my pockets and filled her own. I emptied all her pockets and showed her my fist. After a big show (she offered a fuck for 500 pesos), I pushed her out. 210 pesos to her and 60 to the security guard who finally got rid of her. I don't need this shit anymore.

I watched the Life of Suzy Wong. Old but right on the button as regards working women. Though it is full of Hollywood tinsel and has a happy ending, those who follow the Thai women/ Pinay/Chinese women will find a lot of familiar themes in it.

From now on, I only fuck non hookers. Here is is easier than falling off a log. Goodbye hookers and thanks for the memories.

Wicked Roger
06-21-10, 20:12
WR,

I usually just buy the Cadbury or whatever in the Philippines. Is it really much cheaper elsewhwere? It's available where I am at the moment, but I never thought to price check.


Ah, chocolate.
X

I buy mine at duty free shops mainly in Dubai and UK where there are some great deals (eg buy 2 get 1 free or better) so great VFM. I compared prices (out of curiousity only) at SM Department Store and was really surpirsed at how expensive I thought it was in PI. Also some Swiss DFs are great for Toblerone.....

At Xmas some of the DF shops I pass through have wonderful deals so I stock up..problem is they stay in my fridge ...and then slowly disappear while my stomach gets bigger :D

OK enough chocolate talk, lets get back to our favourite topic :)

Puerto La Cruz
06-22-10, 01:43
I'm in between Chicago and Milwaukee and Chocolate is one of my favorite topics too around here too!!!!

GregLondon
06-22-10, 02:54
Interesting post about sugar. Cheap Thai food is certainly healthier than the Jollibee type muck Pinoys eat. The fascination with chocolate (not found in Thailand where gold is preferred) is also interesting.

I am in Davao del Norte at the moment. The shit young Pinays have to go through to get a shit job defies belief. They need police clearance, health cert (scam where the private hospital makes them buy over priced medicine junk they do not need to get the cert), voters' reg cert and so on. All of these cost about 1,500 pesos and can involve travelling as well and days lost to collect them. No wonder the ouside world looks so appealing.

And then we have their total naiivity. They comer from dirt poor families who know nothing about anything.

I picked up a hooker in Davao city and did the ultimate walk of shame with her. Up the main street being greeted by hundreds of her fellow hookers. I felt like a big tuna being shown to the less lucky fishermen.

Back to my room where she started a massage and I started to drowse as i was so tired. When I opened my eyes, she had emptied most of my pockets and filled her own. I emptied all her pockets and showed her my fist. After a big show (she offered a fuck for 500 pesos), I pushed her out. 210 pesos to her and 60 to the security guard who finally got rid of her. I don't need this shit anymore.

I watched the Life of Suzy Wong. Old but right on the button as regards working women. Though it is full of Hollywood tinsel and has a happy ending, those who follow the Thai women/ Pinay/Chinese women will find a lot of familiar themes in it.

From now on, I only fuck non hookers. Here is is easier than falling off a log. Goodbye hookers and thanks for the memories.


Suzy Wong is one of my fave films too, i watched it as a boy and think it impacted my whole outlook . Another much more recent great China oriented film is: Lust, Caution. Really wel shot and tense with some very sexual sex scenes.

If you, like me are on the road with no easy access to films you can download them through rapidshare.

http://www.warez-bb.org/

is in my view the best and easiest place to locate the links

if you do serious downloading you probably need a pro rapidshare account which is great value for money if you download more than a handful of stuff.

A good download manager such as "internet download manager" is also very useful as it allows you to download a whole series of RS links in one click.

Most big files are split into 100MB segments which are compressed with WINRAR, so that is a useful program to download (through 7 zip will I think also unzip linked rars.) (Once you have downloaded the series of files click on part one decompress an it will daisy chain so that you get the whole lot.

When it comes to watching the movies on your PC/Laptop the free "VLC" program is very good though "Media Player Classic" is better for High Definition films such as Lust Caution and most more recent films.

All of the above programs are either free or you can pick up hacked copies through warez bb.

May sound complicated if like may guys you struggle on the PC stuff but once you have got the right programs you can download just about anything for free very easily provided you have a decent internet connection .

Gonzofiend
06-23-10, 01:12
We all know that DIA and Tagged are probably the top sites to get short time semi pro girls in the phils.

I have a couple of girls who I've spend much of the last month with who have asked me how they can best find a decent western husband. These are nice quality educated but open minded girls and i think would be attractive to many guys looking for a wife. What are people's views as to the best site for them to put up a profile????Hey Greg,

Two sites of the top of my head are Filipina Eyes and Jade Rune. Like DIA it is free for both men and women but these are much smaller, much more heavily moderated sites than DIA. Jade Rune is very primitive and also religious, but I don't think you have to be born again to post an ad. LOL Also, you can get the adresses without actually joining anything at all if I remember correctly.

FE is a more up to date site, which also has two spin-off sites of a similar nature. You have to post a picture to put an ad up. I've never joined either of the sites but there are no shemales or obvious bullshit that I could spot, and both seem pretty good for finding serious relationships. I don't know how it would work for a monger, which is why I didn't use them before my trip last year.

My two cents.

Gonzo

Gallantnitez
06-23-10, 12:38
I've never checked it for monger material but I bet Person.com has a few. They have a free cam section full of the Filipina beggar sort, and those looking to get hitched.

GregLondon
06-24-10, 00:50
Hey Greg,

Two sites of the top of my head are Filipina Eyes and Jade Rune. Like DIA it is free for both men and women but these are much smaller, much more heavily moderated sites than DIA. Jade Rune is very primitive and also religious, but I don't think you have to be born again to post an ad. LOL Also, you can get the adresses without actually joining anything at all if I remember correctly.

FE is a more up to date site, which also has two spin-off sites of a similar nature. You have to post a picture to put an ad up. I've never joined either of the sites but there are no shemales or obvious bullshit that I could spot, and both seem pretty good for finding serious relationships. I don't know how it would work for a monger, which is why I didn't use them before my trip last year.

My two cents.

Gonzo

Thanks for those suggestions guys.

I do have an account with Person.com I find the interface confusing I know both girls and guys who use it alot, but mostly for amateur cam show business.

Filipina Eyes seems to have merged with a couple of other free sites, Filipina lady and Asian Dating but seems worth a try. it's good to support some of the new sites trying to breakinto the ground held by the "big guys"

Puerto La Cruz
06-24-10, 02:03
Thanks for those suggestions guys.

I do have an account with Person.com I find the interface confusing I know both girls and guys who use it alot, but mostly for amateur cam show business.

Filipina Eyes seems to have merged with a couple of other free sites, Filipina lady and Asian Dating but seems worth a try. it's good to support some of the new sites trying to breakinto the ground held by the "big guys"

Just go to AC or Manila

Its soooooooooooooo easy

GregLondon
06-24-10, 05:54
I have recently made efforts to organize my very numerous contacts of phil girls. Probably like many of you I have been relying on Yahoo Messenger for this so far but thats a bit hit and miss and lacks good search functionality or ability to put in fields etc.

I therefore tried somePIM software (as I dont really want to integrate 100s of Pinay girls many of whom I barely know or are scammers with my main Contacts Phonebooks.

I've ended up using Essential PIM which i have found ideal for the purpose.
You can either download the free version. or can get a hacked copy of the Pro version through Warez BB/Rapidshare - or of course you can just pay for it. I think the free basic version has plenty of functionality though im using the pro.

I like it because its a "lightweight" non resource hog program
I can easily group the girls by hometown
I can add as many customised fields as i like eg Facebook, DIA, YM age, weight, cuteness willingness to do threesomes , bjs and whatever else is important for you. You can also easily add a pic of the girl.

The whole thing is then highly searchable . What I try to do now is gather and input this info into the PIM when I first start chatting with a girl on YM

Tenchi
06-24-10, 18:05
Thanks for those suggestions guys.

I do have an account with Person.com I find the interface confusing I know both girls and guys who use it alot, but mostly for amateur cam show business.

Filipina Eyes seems to have merged with a couple of other free sites, Filipina lady and Asian Dating but seems worth a try. it's good to support some of the new sites trying to breakinto the ground held by the "big guys"


Have you tried Filipinaheart.com ...this site seems to me to be the most heavily advertised site of them all. The search is quite good also, as you have the option to search by province (like tagged.com) and then town. The amount of girls from provinces are significantly more than tagged.com, where with DIA every other girl is from Cebu! ^^

Downside is you have to pay to email... >:(

GregLondon
07-05-10, 17:09
One tip I would offer to newbies tackling the Dating Site Scene (assuming you are not cheap charlying it in a pension with no pool) is to invest in 3 or 4 cheap but skimpy bikinis. These can be bought for 150-600P in the Phils. Very few of the younger girls will have bikinis unless they are from a rich family or have had previous foreign bfs. If you invite them to a pool they will typically expect to wear shorts+T shirt.

I try and keep a few handy for pool parties. If your girl has a good body and no bikini pics in a cheap skimpy bikini may actually be the single most valuable cheap gift you can get her as a good bikini shot can multiple the number of responses she will get from her DIA/CB/Tagged/Facebook etc profile 2-3x which may not be good news if you are serious about the girl, but otherwise will be doing her a big favour.

Questor 55
07-05-10, 17:45
Have you tried Filipinaheart.com ...this site seems to me to be the most heavily advertised site of them all. The search is quite good also, as you have the option to search by province (like tagged.com) and then town. The amount of girls from provinces are significantly more than tagged.com, where with DIA every other girl is from Cebu! ^^

Downside is you have to pay to email... >:(For those guys using the dating sites, be aware that Cebu is BOTH an island and a city. It's a good idea in your initial chats to determine if the girl lives in Cebu City or some possibly remote location elsewhere on this relatively large and long island. Are you chatting with someone who, living in the Philippines second largest city, will likely be very different in terms of outlook and attitude, than someone from a distant province with far more conservative values and expectations ?

So, get a good map, or use Google Earth. Many girls from the provinces
can be great catches, but if she convinces you to go 'to her place' for your initial meeting, be prepared to meet the extended family.

Wicked Roger
07-09-10, 12:33
One tip I would offer to newbies tackling the Dating Site Scene (assuming you are not cheap charlying it in a pension with no pool) is to invest in 3 or 4 cheap but skimpy bikinis. These can be bought for 150-600P in the Phils. Very few of the younger girls will have bikinis unless they are from a rich family or have had previous foreign bfs. If you invite them to a pool they will typically expect to wear shorts+T shirt.



Vry good tip but I get mine from Wicked Weasel a tad expensive but very very skimpy (well the ones I buy are :D) and sometime I have to wonder the price per square nano milimetre of material...but when she wears the bikini then I dont care about the price :)

I have never found anything as skimpy in the shops in PI...unless GL you can advise for Cebu?

GregLondon
07-09-10, 16:22
Vry good tip but I get mine from Wicked Weasel a tad expensive but very very skimpy (well the ones I buy are :D) and sometime I have to wonder the price per square nano milimetre of material...but when she wears the bikini then I dont care about the price :)

I have never found anything as skimpy in the shops in PI...unless GL you can advise for Cebu?

I haven't been impressed with the ones I found in the Malls in Cebu. They seemed to be 600P + and a minimum medium fit so they look too big on petite girls.

I recently got my girls in Palawan to buy 5 from NCCC at 139P each and post them to Cebu by LBC (costs about 150P for next day delivery.)

They are cheap and cheerful but look pretty good on a petite girl.

http://riffyjean.weebly.com/

Questor 55
07-09-10, 18:55
I haven't been impressed with the ones I found in the Malls in Cebu. They seemed to be 600P + and a minimum medium fit so they look too big on petite girls.

I recently got my girls in Palawan to buy 5 from NCCC at 139P each and post them to Cebu by LBC (costs about 150P for next day delivery.)

They are cheap and cheerful but look pretty good on a petite girl.

http://riffyjean.weebly.com/Yep, bikini investment is certainly worth the initial outlay. I always have at least a couple of them in my bag. You never know when you might find the perfect time to hand them out. To solve the problem of size and also to ensure that they are sexy skimpy, be sure to buy string bikinis.

All of the adjustment being in the tie strings, means that one size can fit all. I'd suggest opting for ones where the bra is lightly padded. That will solve the problem if your girl is smaller breasted, but will also be appreciated by the more endowed as almost all filipinas tend to wear padded bras.

It's also fun to go malling for bikinis. I've made some interesting contacts among salesgirls when I tell them I am on a dual quest, first to buy a bikini and then find the perfect girl to wear it. "Maybe you can be my Cinderella (glass slippers). Would you like to come to Bohol for a

Little holiday? "

BTW, MOST girls will have never worn any kind of bathing suit and will be initially very shy about wearing a bikini. I always buy a sarong for an extra 120 pesos so the girl can wear that over the bikini, and gradually

Ease out of her shyness in wearing it.

They are generally thrilled to be photographed in sexy poses wearing

The racy bikini, so it's also very useful to cast aside inhibitions. Definitely money well spent!

Red Kilt
07-10-10, 14:56
I was just browsing through a few DIA profiles and started laughing at how many women seem to list hobbies as playing volleyball and/or badminton.
I know badminton is quite popular and volleyball seems to be a nice fun thing to do but honestly - some of these women look like they have never ever been out of a slow walk let alone playing a sport.
Most also don't have any money and it is not cheap to play badminton with any regularity. I have NEVER met any woman on DIA who played either sport.
My guess is that one women mentioned badminton or volleyball in a profile back in DIA's early days and it was copied by another woman because it sounded cool and then it was repeated exponentially.

BTW - I refuse to have anything to do with any woman who lists her hobbies as "cooking & cleaning the house". Can you believe this?

I think intelligent life on DIA is a rarity but there are some occasional diamonds with half a brain. Their profiles stand out like a dog's balls.

Jambo
07-10-10, 19:33
I was just browsing through a few DIA profiles and started laughing at how many women seem to list hobbies as playing volleyball and/or badminton.

Oh I am sure they mean they played it in high school. And they may have a ball/birdy at home and bat it over the clothes line.

BTW I believe Malaysia and/or Indonesia have been Olympic medalists in badminton.

GregLondon
07-11-10, 02:34
Another memorable day yesterday. It was the day off for a 19 year old girl (let's call her CCG) I met a week ago through DIA who works at a call centre. As many of you know its unusual to get such a (here) prestigious job so young, but she is very bright and went to Uni and graduated 2 years early. She texted me that she wanted to stay the day with me so I asked her to come to the hotel. By that stage BB18 had gone home after another "punishment" session of being licked by LF which she had earned by "breaking my camera" actually this may have been a bit harsh as shje was merely the last girl to use the camera before the lens cover ceased up - I think due to salt water I had exposed it to in El Nido. Anyhow i think she is beginning to enjoy these punishment sessions.

So I was left with LF and CG1 who had also showed up to take a dip in the pool. CCG turned up whilst I was in the pool and was a little surprised to see the other girls. However I let them chat her up and soon she seemed to be getting on very well. They explained that they were bi girls and would like us all to have some fun together. She shyly agreed and we all went downstairs to my room.

There is a HUGE difference between a threesome/more some session with the typical P4P girls who are really just there to score a payday for their friend and girls who REALLY enjoy it. And its especially wonderful when a couple of relatively experienced and very enthusiastic girls set to work on a initiate to such pleasures. She ended up taking 4 rounds before she had to go home to meet her uncle's curfew.

LF (who I think needs to be renamed BiF as she has begun to take cock, now wants to introduce me t her ex girl friend. Looks pretty nice in her pics, so let's see. )

Red Kilt
07-11-10, 05:36
Oh I am sure they mean they played it in high school. And they may have a ball/birdy at home and bat it over the clothes line.

BTW I believe Malaysia and/or Indonesia have been Olympic medalists in badminton.

I meant exclusively DIA filipinas who say they play badminton and volleyball.
other neighboring countries have many more facilities to play these sports.
Very few women in the Philippines are physically active. I am a member of Fitness First and go to the gym every day in Manila and believe me, there are a few hot bodies around but the majority are way overweight. That's why I laugh at how many list these sports as their hobbies.
I am sure it is "in the mind" only.

Red Wine
07-11-10, 07:44
Another memorable day yesterday. It was the day off for a 19 year old girl (let's call her CCG) I met a week ago through DIA who works at a call centre. As many of you know its unusual to get such a (here) prestigious job so young, but she is very bright and went to Uni and graduated 2 years early. She texted me that she wanted to stay the day with me so I asked her to come to the hotel. By that stage BB18 had gone home after another "punishment" session of being licked by LF which she had earned by "breaking my camera" actually this may have been a bit harsh as shje was merely the last girl to use the camera before the lens cover ceased up - I think due to salt water I had exposed it to in El Nido. Anyhow i think she is beginning to enjoy these punishment sessions.

So I was left with LF and CG1 who had also showed up to take a dip in the pool. CCG turned up whilst I was in the pool and was a little surprised to see the other girls. However I let them chat her up and soon she seemed to be getting on very well. They explained that they were bi girls and would like us all to have some fun together. She shyly agreed and we all went downstairs to my room.

There is a HUGE difference between a threesome/more some session with the typical P4P girls who are really just there to score a payday for their friend and girls who REALLY enjoy it. And its especially wonderful when a couple of relatively experienced and very enthusiastic girls set to work on a initiate to such pleasures. She ended up taking 4 rounds before she had to go home to meet her uncle's curfew.

LF (who I think needs to be renamed BiF as she has begun to take cock, now wants to introduce me t her ex girl friend. Looks pretty nice in her pics, so let's see. )May I make a statement? OH MY GOD!

You lucky devil you.

FreebieFan
07-12-10, 00:56
I was just browsing through a few DIA profiles and started laughing at how many women seem to list hobbies as playing volleyball and/or badminton.

I know badminton is quite popular and volleyball seems to be a nice fun thing to do but honestly. Some of these women look like they have never ever been out of a slow walk let alone playing a sport.

Most also don't have any money and it is not cheap to play badminton with any regularity. I have NEVER met any woman on DIA who played either sport.

My guess is that one women mentioned badminton or volleyball in a profile back in DIA's early days and it was copied by another woman because it sounded cool and then it was repeated exponentially.

BTW. I refuse to have anything to do with any woman who lists her hobbies as "cooking & cleaning the house". Can you believe this?

I think intelligent life on DIA is a rarity but there are some occasional diamonds with half a brain. Their profiles stand out like a dog's balls.If they were really honest quite a few should list " sleeping and doing absolute nothing all day" as hobbies.

The type who, after you have made a sweet and full introduction of yourself reply with "What? ". Have to love them. Then delete them!

GregLondon
07-12-10, 07:51
May I make a statement? OH MY GOD!

You lucky devil you.

I have decided that bi girls are definitely the way to go. If there are any decent guys here living in Cebu full time and who fancy having a Bi GF come and live with you, then she will be available in a few weeks when I go back to UK. She has problems with her mum and wants to find a guy to live with whilst finishing her college. The idea would be that you try and hunt for fun girls together - you pay the bills plus her college fees.

Tally Wacker
07-16-10, 21:12
after my 3-day manila stay i went to ac and like you said "primusduvel" i had a bad feeling and felt like i could trust nobody after being scammed a couple times.

the very next day i had a meet up with a young looking cam girl that i planned to have fun with. i heard the stories of girls younger than 18 being in your room and having the police raid you in a scam sting so i was a little scarred.

i asked her to bring her id with her because the hotel needs to check it. they dont check id's so i asked one of the bar tenders to check it for me. it says she is 20yrs. but she is 5' 1" and weighs about 90lbs and looks like 14. lol.

i have chatted her on the internet for awhile and she is fun and wild on her cam shows and does anal fucking with a toy like a porn star. but when we wer together she was so cute and innocent looking.

we were sitting on my bed in the room for what must have been over an hour watching tv and nothing happened yet sexualy. i did not know where to start with her. she was so cute and innocent i did not know if i wanted to fuck her or buy her some candy and read her a bed time story. lol.

anyways, i had my laptop there and i know she loves to play "farmville". anyone know that online game? most of the cam girls play it when they are not fucking the shit out of themselves.

i did not want to push the sex situation with her and was still wondering if this was one of those **** scams (remembering that i can not trust anyone). so i offered for her to use my computer to go online and play. she was happy.

so she was playing farmville and doing this and that for another hour on my laptop and was not saying a word to me the whole time. i was wondering if this was going to be a complete waste of time for me and thought shit i should have never offered the laptop.lol.

so about 15 min later she was done sprucing up her farm by plowing her fields and planting crops and selling off and trading this and that.

then she closed the laptop, jumped on top of me, gave me a big kiss on the mouth and said in the cutiest little filipina accent "i love you". i just about melted. it was the cutiest thing in the world.

she then asked me if i wanted to see her body? i siad of course. she then sat up and peeled her clothes off to show off her body. it was like with a flick of the switch she turned from a 14 yr old innocent girl into a naughty 20 yr old.

she took off my pants and started to give me an amazing blowjob and the rest was history.

i still was concerned about her not being 18 and maybe this is a scam in the back of my head. those little scammers in manila were playing mind tricks on my head still.

about 3 hours later she fell a sleep and i was watching tv still. it was late at night and i heard these 2 guys in the hall way outside my room talking official like in tagalog. i heard their keys jingling on their belt and they were right at my door. i fucking jumped up and freaked out. i pulled my pants and shirt on and started looking through the peep hole expecting to see the local police.

it was only 2 maintenance workers talking about some issue with the hotel. lol. i felt relieved and went to sleep with one eye open.

ok next morning. i woke up with a hard on because there was a hot 20yr girl that looked 14 yrs old lying naked next to me in bed. we had a 2nd round of fun :)

right after the sex i rolled over and said "ahhhhhhhh". she sat up with a funny look on her face and i asked her whats wrong?? is every thing ok?? she then looked at me and with that cute little filipina accent said "my farmville"

it was the funniest thing in the world!!! i was thinking about fucking and she was thinking about her farmville crops.

we both smiled and i opened up the laptop again and she played arround for the next hour while she ate chocolates and was totally content.

i will post a couple photos of her in the photo section.

sorry for rambling on and hope my story did not bore you guys.

GregLondon
07-17-10, 04:07
It's been a busy few days here in Cebu.

I've now settled down with about half a dozen cuties comming and going.
A couple of days ago all 6 were here at the same time so we had a bit of a room party.
I've got a pretty decent music collection on my ipod and a buy a 2.1 speaker in Cebu to give me enough base to
have a party atmosphere. It was great fun to have 6 semi naked girls cavorting around and dancing in the mirrow.
Memories of all those clubs in London where you would queue up in the rain for 30 minutes to have the privalege of queing another hour for drinks
and where even when I was early 30s the cute chicks regarded me as some sort of child molestor were a distant memory.
It's great dancing with 6 cuties knowing that I can feed any one of them my cock whenever I felt like it. The other nice thing as that the
girl's loved it were laughing and having so much fun taking pics and videos. (But sorry i do not post pics of non pros here).

We are always looking for new (young nubile female) recruits to the gang. I invited a girl from Tagged around who has an unusual collectionof exceptionally
pretty model type picxs combined with some shots from a grungy poor background. She showed up, the girls were a bit worried that she would be a "dirty"
girl but when she arrived their eyes almost popped out she was so cute. She asked to go to the CR first and by the tikme she came out I had three girls sucking my cock in preparation. She was surprised byut not fazed by this. She lead down and the girls set to work on her, one on each boob and another licking her pussy, which she wasnt so comfortable with asking for cock pretty soon so the spare girl started kissing her. This girl really knows how to fuck with a cover girl face, perfect body 9as long as you like short girls.)

She fancies herself as a model so was keen to take pics in every position I liked alone and with the other girls. After a couple of rounds she said she needed to go but would leave her stuff and come back later. It was actualy 3 am in the morning by the time she returned and I just had one girl hee by then so she said she would bring her friend. The friend was slim and young but not nerly as cute though perfect boobs. After a session she got dressed and wanted to go, my girl accompanied her to a taxi and said she had given her the 300p change fromsome taxi money I had given her earlier. She's a ni ec girl hthough obviously more "pro" than the other girls. Shes returned once so far and said she would retun today as we are going to hold some sort of pool party/modelling session by the pool with my new HD canm corder. Who knows whetehr she will show or not. if she ins sensible she wil becaus e she is not really marketing herself properly given she has 9.5 type looks.

Some less jolly news now but Ill put that in a separate post.

GL

GregLondon
07-17-10, 04:48
As I'm sure some of you know, one of the downsides of developing real friendships with the girl is that
although one gets alot of free or semi free sex, one ends up being the "lender" of last (or more often first) resort
in the case of some emergency. of course if this wa limited to one's "own" girls this would be reasonable, but it often extends to
friends and family too.

Actually I'm usually pretty hard nosed about this, but sometimes there are situation where morally one doesn't have much choice. 2 days ago the three college girls
(CG1, CG2 and BiF) had a problem because CG2's thesis partner had had a ceasure and collapsed at college. I've met this girl before and shall call her KillJoy - KJ
as she showed up at a pool party we had a few months ago and killed the atmosphere - she is fat and not good looking, and when the other girls were dancing around in bikinis kind of put a Christian dampener on affairs and ate alot of Jollybees. Anyhow her problem was that she was very pregnant. She had tried taking Cytotic a couple of times but it hadn't worked because - the other girls said - she couldn't stop eating for the necessary 6 hours. Anyhow this is especially bad news as she is at a strict Catholic college where preggie girls are expelled. So she took to wearing a corset and having "rough" massages in and effort to get rid of the baby. Because she is so fat she got away with it without the nuns suspecting.

Anyhow she got sent to hospital and the bottom line was that the docs said she must have an emergency caesarian or she and/or the baby might die. This being the Phils, they could not just operate but had to find 3000P to buy some of the necessary medicines before they would operate. By the evening when I was at dinner with the three girls her family and friends had managed to get togther 1500P but it looked like they couldn't find another 1500P that night. I'm not sure how hard they wee really trying - nobody seemed to be prepared to pawn their cell phone for example. Anyhow given that I had several times that in my pocket and wouldn't really notice had it been pickpocketed for example, I felt obliged to step up to the plate, even though the girl is a KJ. I just hope that if someday I am in deeep trouble someone I hardly know steps in. To be fair the 3 girls have been giving me a great time and also the baby is really the innocent one in all this. Anyhow by 1am she was under the knife and by morning she was conscious and sharing a hospital bed with another new mother and there was a 1.5kg baby in the incubator. Currently it looks like KJ will survive and the baby probably has a 50/50 chance. I think in the West it woukd probably be 80-90% but here the will be out of the hospital soon and have no money. The College has agreed to pay 25% of the surgery/delivery costs but the family will have to find the rest somehow. She will be expelled from college, and CG2 is going to have to figure out how to get buy without a thesis partner. I had assumed that such a small (7 months) baby had no chance in the Phils, but BiF is hopeful. She said that she herself was also born 2 months premature after a failed abortion attempt at less than 4 lbs and she said the baby looks healthy apart from a weak heart and seems like a "fighter". Time will tell.

Suwon
07-17-10, 18:59
As I'm sure some of you know, one of the downsides of developing real friendships with the girl is that although one gets alot of free or semi free sex, one ends up being the "lender" of last (or more often first) resort in the case of some emergency. Of course if this wa limited to one's "own" girls this would be reasonable, but it often extends to friends and family too.

Actually I'm usually pretty hard nosed about this, but sometimes there are situation where morally one doesn't have much choice. 2 days ago the three college girls (CG1, CG2 and BiF) had a problem because CG2's thesis partner had had a ceasure and collapsed at college. I've met this girl before and shall call her KillJoy. KJ as she showed up at a pool party we had a few months ago and killed the atmosphere. She is fat and not good looking, and when the other girls were dancing around in bikinis kind of put a Christian dampener on affairs and ate alot of Jollybees. Anyhow her problem was that she was very pregnant. She had tried taking Cytotic a couple of times but it hadn't worked because. The other girls said. She couldn't stop eating for the necessary 6 hours. Anyhow this is especially bad news as she is at a strict Catholic college where preggie girls are expelled. So she took to wearing a corset and having "rough" massages in and effort to get rid of the baby. Because she is so fat she got away with it without the nuns suspecting.

Anyhow she got sent to hospital and the bottom line was that the docs said she must have an emergency caesarian or she and/or the baby might die. This being the Phils, they could not just operate but had to find 3000P to buy some of the necessary medicines before they would operate. By the evening when I was at dinner with the three girls her family and friends had managed to get togther 1500P but it looked like they couldn't find another 1500P that night. I'm not sure how hard they wee really trying. Nobody seemed to be prepared to pawn their cell phone for example. Anyhow given that I had several times that in my pocket and wouldn't really notice had it been pickpocketed for example, I felt obliged to step up to the plate, even though the girl is a KJ. I just hope that if someday I am in deeep trouble someone I hardly know steps in. To be fair the 3 girls have been giving me a great time and also the baby is really the innocent one in all this. Anyhow by 1am she was under the knife and by morning she was conscious and sharing a hospital bed with another new mother and there was a 1. 5kg baby in the incubator. Currently it looks like KJ will survive and the baby probably has a 50/50 chance. I think in the West it woukd probably be 80-90% but here the will be out of the hospital soon and have no money. The College has agreed to pay 25% of the surgery/delivery costs but the family will have to find the rest somehow. She will be expelled from college, and CG2 is going to have to figure out how to get buy without a thesis partner. I had assumed that such a small (7 months) baby had no chance in the Phils, but BiF is hopeful. She said that she herself was also born 2 months premature after a failed abortion attempt at less than 4 lbs and she said the baby looks healthy apart from a weak heart and seems like a "fighter". Time will tell.Sad news indeed. I will be in Cebu for a few days next month. If there's any way that I can help out. Let me know.

Cbea20
07-19-10, 05:11
I meant exclusively DIA filipinas who say they play badminton and volleyball.
other neighboring countries have many more facilities to play these sports.
Very few women in the Philippines are physically active. I am a member of Fitness First and go to the gym every day in Manila and believe me, there are a few hot bodies around but the majority are way overweight. That's why I laugh at how many list these sports as their hobbies.
I am sure it is "in the mind" only.

They have in mind their childhood and P.E. in school. Maybe the occasional beach party. But not serious games.

GregLondon
07-20-10, 01:45
Sad news indeed. I will be in Cebu for a few days next month. If there's any way that I can help out. Let me know.

Many thanks for your offer Suwon. It looks as though the mum is out of the danger zone and will survive. The daughter, who has been named "Alphabet" - no idea why - is still alive but struggling with a weak heart and there are issues with feeding, the mother has no milk as it was an early caesarian so they are relying on the kindness of another new mum to share her milk. if she is still with us by the time you get here I'm sure any help you can offer would be deeply appreciated.

Tally Wacker
07-20-10, 03:42
Greg,

It sounds like all is getting better there. I would like offer my services to keep the Bi Girls busy while Suwon nurses the mom back to health. Yes I know it does not sound fair but Suwon can make it up to me later.


Many thanks for your offer Suwon. It looks as though the mum is out of the danger zone and will survive. The daughter, who has been named "Alphabet" - no idea why - is still alive but struggling with a weak heart and there are issues with feeding, the mother has no milk as it was an early caesarian so they are relying on the kindness of another new mum to share her milk. if she is still with us by the time you get here I'm sure any help you can offer would be deeply appreciated.

Suwon
07-20-10, 10:49
Greg,

It sounds like all is getting better there. I would like offer my services to keep the Bi Girls busy while Suwon nurses the mom back to health. Yes I know it does not sound fair but Suwon can make it up to me later.Tally Wacker,

You're a generous bloke. But with 24 hours in a day. And plenty to go around. I am sure that we can work something out! I think a little bit of mongering. A little bit of doing a good deed. And a little bit of bi-girls. Can make a fella well rounded and quite satisfied!

I guess I'd have to buy you a beer though!

Wicked Roger
07-21-10, 00:42
I haven't been impressed with the ones I found in the Malls in Cebu. They seemed to be 600P + and a minimum medium fit so they look too big on petite girls.

I recently got my girls in Palawan to buy 5 from NCCC at 139P each and post them to Cebu by LBC (costs about 150P for next day delivery.)

They are cheap and cheerful but look pretty good on a petite girl.

http://riffyjean.weebly.com/

GL

Will try this place also, WW are exquisite IMHO and my cebu girl does enjoy chosing from the web site...and she has the same tastes as me including the see through mesh shorts :)...for her not me :)

But as you said, only for slim ladies......

X Man
07-21-10, 10:47
I don't remember the exact topic of the original post, but one shop that has some fairly sexy clothing was Salad Dressing on the ground floor of Cebu SM. Nothing too outragous, bikinis, hot hot pants, and they even had naughty school girl outfits. X


GL

Will try this place also, WW are exquisite IMHO and my cebu girl does enjoy chosing from the web site...and she has the same tastes as me including the see through mesh shorts :)...for her not me :)

But as you said, only for slim ladies......

GregLondon
07-23-10, 03:24
The partying continues at chez GregLondon. Yesterday we gained a new recruit to the gang. I'm probably way behind the curve on this one as I'm not a big drinker personally but if you really want to get a party swinging stock up on some Tanduay Ice (the local alcopop). It's a very reasonable 20P a bottle and to my mind tastes rather good. Depending on how much drinking your girls have done before 1 -5 bottles is enough to get them very uninhibited indeed.

Anyhow the evening kicked off with a "punishment" session for BB18 on the somewhat flimsy grounds that had had been robbed of the modest amount of money i had given her the previous night by some hoodlums in Colon. She's actually a really honest girl though she's unbelievably and funnily non PC and when she was younger (about 14-16) was part of a notorious gang. She didn't exaggerate the amount that was stolen and when i offered to replace it twice insisted that I shouldn't because it was her fault, getting out of the jeep in Colon.

Anyhow the "punishment" session consisted of being held down (with the help of PG (now 8.5 months preg) sitting on her legs, me scooping chocolate fudge ice cream on her boobs and belly button and occasionally mouth - just to keep her quiet - it was agreed that this time the "crime" was not serious enough to warrant vaginal ice cream, with BiF and CG2 licking the ice cream off her body, whilst I took pics.

A girl I recently met who - not unreasonably - fancies herself as a model (so will call her MOD) had come around for an earlier session during the day, and said she would also come around for an evening session. She wanted to take pics in the pool area. At just 36kg, even the small bikinis I had bought looked a bit big so she said she would prefer to go topless. (the security guards watching the security camera must have had a nice evening. She is really photogenic and an excellent poser so I've got some nice images. I don't usually post pics as most of my girls are very nervous re their college situation but I'll ask her if she objects to afew being posted as she is a shamless self publicist.

Somewhat surprisingly given that she is quiet sexually experienced adn uninhibited on cam, she doesn't drink at all so was a little intimidated when the party back in my room was in full swing. We realxed on my bed, whilst BB18, CG2, BiF and CCG with PG as DJ ramped up the music and started dancing on the chairs and taking off more and more clothes in a bump and grind lesbioan dancing session. This got me very horny so I indicated that I wanted another round with MOD, she nodded but whispered could we ask CG2 to join us whilst the other three continued the dance show, so CG2 attended to her boobs whilst she impaled herself on my cock.

Actually CG2 was her second choice and we had been waiting for CG1 who was late because she too had had her money pickpocketed and thus couldn't get a taxi. By the time CG1 arrived MOD and I were checking through the pics whilst the other girls, who had in some cases only a few days ago insisted that they didn't like other girls were busy deeply snogging each other. MOD having taken 3 rounds today, insisted that it was CG1's turn to take cock which she duely did assisted by MOD, CG2 and BiF. MOD then showed us her various privatye photos on facebook and also those of her modelling friends who also seemed very cute. She said she had never been in this sort of situation before and that she would see if some of her modelling freinds wanted to come along and meet the girls. We will see.

FYI MOD is ideally looking for a guy to live with on a I'll be faithful to him but it's OK if he has other girls type basis, if he supports me through college type basis. Actually she is rather bright as well as ultra cute, slim and petite, so this may well be feasible. She's also keen to pursue her photo model career. if there are any horny photographers out there who want to spend some time with a very pretty girl who adores posing I guess she's available, she would be ideal for such a guy to take to Boracay/El Nido for a combined photography/sex holiday. But I think I'll only be divulging her contact details once I've left Phils LOL.

Wicked Roger
07-23-10, 07:54
I don't remember the exact topic of the original post, but one shop that has some fairly sexy clothing was Salad Dressing on the ground floor of Cebu SM. Nothing too outragous, bikinis, hot hot pants, and they even had naughty school girl outfits. X

Thanks X Man.

Left you a text message seems a good idea.....

GL Nice FR see you soon also....;

Sojourner
07-25-10, 11:07
Are there any legitimate Russian/Ukrainians on CherryBlossom? I blocked Nigeria long ago, and I don't introduce myself to European women, but I get a few introductions a week from Russia and the Ukrainian almost all of whom are 26-30 years old 5'6-5'7" 115-125lbs and almost all following the same pattern- ask for your email in the first letter, send pics & form letters, never have chat systems or cams.

Now I have received intros from women in their late 30's or 40's with kids that seemed real, and on rare occasions get a note from a hot but rather crazy 20-somthings but 90% under 35 seem not to be legit. Is this the case for most men over 40 on cb? or am I missing something about the pattern for online dating in Eastern Europe?

-S

X Man
07-25-10, 14:20
Since DIA allows only one picture, it is wise to check the ladies out on cam or find other pictures. Sometimes they have Friendster, FB, or Tagged profiles with pictures.

I'm not very good about following this advice. I really hit it lucky with a DIA contact in Cebu last year. Unfortunately, my lack of planning has come back to bite me in the ass this time.

The worse one was the 77lb lass who turned out to be a hefer.

Another was cute, but heavy in the rear. She brought along a real cow who spent most of the lunch checking her phone and eating her french fries.

One couldn't speak English but she brought along her very cute cousin. I later had a date with the cousin, but it would take a lot of time and effort to get into her panties. If I lived in Cebu I would defintely persue her.

An older one which I thought would be a sure thing, most certainly was. Although when I got into her panties I discovered things were a little bloody.

Today's meeting was rather productive. She was a pimply 21 yr old, but she came alone and was sporting a very ample chest. She was quiet and didn't have any ideas about what to do. So I did what I wanted to do. I took her to my room and gave her a good hump. Took a rest and then climbed back on only to find a bloody mess after the second round.

X

Member #4643
07-26-10, 03:03
Like X Man, I found DIA to be somewhat productive, but not totally satisfying. The girl I arranged to see was pretty good in bed, but loved to watch TV and had almost nothing to say. I cannot complain, since she swallowed. :-)

The question is this: what aspect of the profile should indicate to the average mongerer that the DIA girl is going to be an easy, GFE fuck?

What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?

And, in setting up our encounter, what questions should we ask, and what types of answers to these questions should we expect?

I believe that there are many many people on this web site who could give great insite into this. GregLondon, for example?

I have RTFF, and yet I am still not certain how to proceed. Maybe I should stick to Brazil and the DR, where I understand the culture inside and out. On the other hand, those pinays are sooooooooo sexy. When I visited Manila two years ago, my DIA chick was certainly lovely and reasonably willing. But, I think I could have done better.

Let's here from you experienced guys, PLEASE!!!

F


Since DIA allows only one picture, it is wise to check the ladies out on cam or find other pictures. Sometimes they have Friendster, FB, or Tagged profiles with pictures.

I'm not very good about following this advice. I really hit it lucky with a DIA contact in Cebu last year. Unfortunately, my lack of planning has come back to bite me in the ass this time.

The worse one was the 77lb lass who turned out to be a hefer.

Another was cute, but heavy in the rear. She brought along a real cow who spent most of the lunch checking her phone and eating her french fries.

One couldn't speak English but she brought along her very cute cousin. I later had a date with the cousin, but it would take a lot of time and effort to get into her panties. If I lived in Cebu I would defintely persue her.

An older one which I thought would be a sure thing, most certainly was. Although when I got into her panties I discovered things were a little bloody.

Today's meeting was rather productive. She was a pimply 21 yr old, but she came alone and was sporting a very ample chest. She was quiet and didn't have any ideas about what to do. So I did what I wanted to do. I took her to my room and gave her a good hump. Took a rest and then climbed back on only to find a bloody mess after the second round.

X

Red Kilt
07-26-10, 03:54
........

The question is this: what aspect of the profile should indicate to the average mongerer that the DIA girl is going to be an easy, GFE fuck?

What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?



Forrest - the problems you had are the same problems we all have.
There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby. Some guys reckoned that "open-minded" was code for anything goes, but we also know that most women just read and copy other profiles that they think sound nice.
I hate reading "my hobbies are cooking and cleaning the house", or "accept me for who or what I am".
I have been tracking DIA for 3 years. My results are exactly the same as yours. You win some and you lose some, but you definitely should chat before you meet.
And, most importantly, always meet first time in a public place, like a mall or coffee shop. If she turns out to be a fraud (ie picture taken 10 years ago) and/or a scammer, you can leave her after a short time. Not so easy to do if she is in your room or she knows where you are staying.

Jambo
07-26-10, 04:24
There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby.
For real. I have met girls with good jobs who acted shy and did not want me to touch them. And I have met working girls who didn't want to stop fucking me. I've met girls living in slums act haughty and insulted if I rubbed their leg, so go figure.

And it does not seem to help at all chatting over long periods. If you want to be a shameless horn dog you can try this, after chatting some time say something like "you know, if I meet you and I like you, I will want to take you to bed. I'm sorry, I may not be able to help myself, you're so sweet" (see how that flies, worked for me several times)

One sure way of knowing (sort of). If they had Western BF before (or still!), they will be good to go (probably). If they show you their pic wearing bikini, sure. If they admit they are not virgin--no not sure at all. They may have been 'victims' of a local boy, and therefore focused on finding a 'nice' man.

Goes without saying, and its said often, the ones that are focused on you sending some money, just dump them. Save your money for the ones who perform! I send some load at times to girls I am interested in.

FreebieFan
07-26-10, 05:42
Forrest. The problems you had are the same problems we all have.

There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby. Some guys reckoned that "open-minded" was code for anything goes, but we also know that most women just read and copy other profiles that they think sound nice.

I hate reading "my hobbies are cooking and cleaning the house", or "accept me for who or what I am".

I have been tracking DIA for 3 years. My results are exactly the same as yours. You win some and you lose some, but you definitely should chat before you meet.

And, most importantly, always meet first time in a public place, like a mall or coffee shop. If she turns out to be a fraud (ie picture taken 10 years ago) and/or a scammer, you can leave her after a short time. Not so easy to do if she is in your room or she knows where you are staying.Chat and if theres some chemistry and a sense of fun and humour, then all should be ok. Chat with cam but make sure you look good and neat, no need to scare them off.

Let them do the running, quite often the ones interested in you will ask what you are wearing etc. Listen to all the hints and have chatting fun,

Then when you meet you already have a foundation and she knows your a fun and funny guy. The girls that can only reply " Ok " " Up to you " " what you want" are not the ones you want. If you can't talk to the girl, imagine how dull and dreary the sex will be.

Take the time to sift thru the wheat chaff and whatever else there is. Send sweet little texts before your trip, they love it. Tell her you will bring choccies, but manage to forget (Sorry, I left them on the plane!) instead bring sexy panties. At least thats my MO and it works without fail!

Manta Ray
07-26-10, 06:13
There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby. Some guys reckoned that "open-minded" was code for anything goes, but we also know that most women just read and copy other profiles that they think sound nice.
You win some and you lose some, but you definitely should chat before you meet.
And, most importantly, always meet first time in a public place, like a mall or coffee shop. If she turns out to be a fraud (ie picture taken 10 years ago) and/or a scammer, you can leave her after a short time. Not so easy to do if she is in your room or she knows where you are staying.

I agree with RK: There is no full-proof way in advance to know without doubt that the date will end, er, climactically! However, as committed mongers, if we develop our intuition and sussing skills, as well as our intercultural awareness, I venture there is a much stronger likelihood of the proverbial happy ending.

It's worth keeping in mind that as an SE Asian country, the Philippines is a 'Face' culture; This means that maintaining and/or avoiding the loss of face is a strongly enculturated feature of everyday life here. In short, what you see and hear is not always what you get. The more we develop our skills in discerning and appropriately responding to our gal's face saving/maintaining words and actions, the happier (and more secure) they will feel and the more pleasure they will provide.

On a more practical note... I have dated lots of DIA gals and I have found that if I set an evening date with a gal, there seems to be a strong correlation between the distance she lives from the center of town (or my place) and the likelihood she will spend the night with me nestling naked in my arms (cf my post on DIA first date). In fact, there have been times when I have had the choice of two different DIA gals for an evening date, and other things (looks, age, etc.) being relatively equal, I have deliberately chosen the gal who lives further afield, knowing (or at least surmising) that at the end of the evening she will come up with some lovely face-saving hint that it is now too late for her to be able to get home, at which point I chivalrously offer her a night's rest in my humble abode. Works (amost) every time!

Manta Ray

Tally Wacker
07-26-10, 06:17
Greg London is busy at the moment,

I just returned from Phil and have been back in California for 2 weeks. I was having withdrawls from lack of filipinas so I was chatting some girls on DIA from Cebu. I told her I was staying at a local hotel in Cebu.

Our conversation moved to YM and she was chatting me in her bra and panties. I asked her if she wanted to come and stay with me for a week and Fuck? She said sure but what about me? I said I would take care of her. She was happy. She gave me a little sexy dance in her panties. I was excited but upset I could not follow up on the deal.

I messaged Greg as I know he is in Cebu now. I forwarded the DIA info on this hot filipina and suggested he message her and give her a try.

A few min later Greg messaged me and said the same girl is here in his bed and she was chatting me from his computer. lol

He was not joking she was really there with two other girls. It was so fuckin funny :) I told him to tell the girl i was just fuckin arround and i was not going to txt her later.

Your right just ask Greg the guys a master.


I believe that there are many many people on this web site who could give great insite into this. GregLondon, for example?

F

GregLondon
07-26-10, 06:36
Are there any legitimate Russian/Ukrainians on CherryBlossom? I blocked Nigeria long ago, and I don't introduce myself to European women, but I get a few introductions a week from Russia and the Ukrainian almost all of whom are 26-30 years old 5'6-5'7" 115-125lbs and almost all following the same pattern- ask for your email in the first letter, send pics & form letters, never have chat systems or cams.

Now I have received intros from women in their late 30's or 40's with kids that seemed real, and on rare occasions get a note from a hot but rather crazy 20-somthings but 90% under 35 seem not to be legit. Is this the case for most men over 40 on cb? or am I missing something about the pattern for online dating in Eastern Europe?

-S

On Blossoms I would say over 95% of Russians and E Europeans are scammers

GregLondon
07-26-10, 08:26
Yes it was kind of spooky, that i was being relayed info across the pacific about a girl who was sitting in my room LOL

Actually if you are thinking of having loads of girls hang out in your room a second laptop such as a netbook is a great investment as it means the girls can check their web sites and the likes whilst I read stuff on my computer


Greg London is busy at the moment,

I just returned from Phil and have been back in California for 2 weeks. I was having withdrawls from lack of filipinas so I was chatting some girls on DIA from Cebu. I told her I was staying at a local hotel in Cebu.

Our conversation moved to YM and she was chatting me in her bra and panties. I asked her if she wanted to come and stay with me for a week and Fuck? She said sure but what about me? I said I would take care of her. She was happy. She gave me a little sexy dance in her panties. I was excited but upset I could not follow up on the deal.

I messaged Greg as I know he is in Cebu now. I forwarded the DIA info on this hot filipina and suggested he message her and give her a try.

A few min later Greg messaged me and said the same girl is here in his bed and she was chatting me from his computer. lol

He was not joking she was really there with two other girls. It was so fuckin funny :) I told him to tell the girl i was just fuckin arround and i was not going to txt her later.

Your right just ask Greg the guys a master.

GregLondon
07-26-10, 12:50
Like X Man, I found DIA to be somewhat productive, but not totally satisfying. The girl I arranged to see was pretty good in bed, but loved to watch TV and had almost nothing to say. I cannot complain, since she swallowed. :-)

The question is this: what aspect of the profile should indicate to the average mongerer that the DIA girl is going to be an easy, GFE fuck?

What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?

And, in setting up our encounter, what questions should we ask, and what types of answers to these questions should we expect?

I believe that there are many many people on this web site who could give great insite into this. GregLondon, for example?

I have RTFF, and yet I am still not certain how to proceed. Maybe I should stick to Brazil and the DR, where I understand the culture inside and out. On the other hand, those pinays are sooooooooo sexy. When I visited Manila two years ago, my DIA chick was certainly lovely and reasonably willing. But, I think I could have done better.

Let's here from you experienced guys, PLEASE!!!

F


As others have said separating the wheat from the chaf is not at all easy on DIA/CB etc. If someone claims to have a 99% success ratio (as did a poster a few weeks ago) treat such claims as akin to Saddam Hussein's 99.9% of people voted for him claims.

One can talk about various indicators but you will always get dealt wild cards. Girls that look very unpromising but turn out to be gems and vice versa. For those of us with plenty of time here, it's all part of the fun, but if you have saved hard for a short trip it's obviously frustrating.

Speaking for myself I prefer 18-23 year old girls without a baby, slim , cute and fluent in English with a nice personality, non bar girls and and open to almost immediate unlimited sex. I'm not focussed on "no condoms", "anal", "spanking", "big boobs", "CIM", or various other things that some guys focus on. However I do have a highly multi girl lifestyle so its important that they are happy about having other naked girls around and joining in threesomes or moresomes.

For my demographic, the first thing I look out for is some beyond high school education. I have a few high school only girls but typically their English is not so strong (as English is only used consistently at school when they go to college). I find the best targets are "working students" or those struggling to pay their fees. Sadly what the girl actually says in her profile is not often very useful. Girls often say what they think guys want to hear. The majority of the girls with very "open minded let's have fun / sexy photo" type profiles are either scammers or camgirls or fairly professional girls with premium rate expectations. What you are really looking for are girls who are "looking for Mr Right" but also leaving open the possibility of fun in the meantime. Girls who manage to write something which balances these two goals are pretty few and far between so you probably have to mass mail most of the girls that meet your physical criteria and see who takes the bait. My strategy is to be very upfront in terms of what im looking for whilst remaining polite and respectful. If you say something like that you are looking for someone "open minded re sex" or "passionate in bed" it should do the trick. I'm sure I lose quite a few good prospects like that but I also save alot of time with false leads. If at all possible I prefer girls who are willing to meet at my hotel. Opinions differ on this as some prefer a nearby mall but I hate the waiting around this inevitably involves.

Sometimes one has to cut a girl a little slack and see what happens. A case in point was a girl I met two days ago who I had been texting on and off for ages but who held out against coming to the hotel to meet. She eventually said she would meet in Robinsons so as I was going there I agreed. She turned up with a great figure and cute enough face. She was kind of hard going and a bit full of herself, at one stage i almost decided to give up on her. Unusually she insisted on paying her part of the bill and seemed to have much more attitude than typical Filipinas. After a bit it emerged that she had a Canadian BF of several years standing who had bought her property etc and was bank rolling her but had returned to his country for a few months. She agreed to come back to my hotel only when I assured her that there would be several other girls there. Usually I have the opposite problem and girls are rather disconcerted when I inform them there may be other scantily clad cuties in the room. She was excited but rather shy. My girls made her feel very comfortable and she said she was willing to try something if she had enough to drink. Eventually she was naked in my arms whilst one of my girls licked her pussy and the other kissed her boobs and lips. She said it was the first time for any girl on girl action and after all the hesitating and taking more drink she was soon writhing around in ecstasy. After the girls had got her super horny I filled her with cock which made her gasp with pleasure and we had a great time. She refused to take any money even for her taxi and the girls have an open invitation to come and visit her at her beach place whilst her BF is away.

X Man
07-27-10, 01:53
I guess everyone will have a different answer, so I hope others post.

I find being naughty in a joking way breaks the ice. One girl explicity wrote "no perverts". I replied that I'm a pervert only some of the time. She replied. Questions like 'are you free to travel', "do you have a bikini', "where is your boyfriend" often will give you some hints about where the girl is coming from.

"where is your bf" is especially useful with younger ones to determine if she has been deflowered. BTW, there is a real stunner at Viking right now, 20, who is "cherry". She goes to school part time for mechanical engineering.
X


What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?

And, in setting up our encounter, what questions should we ask, and what types of answers to these questions should we expect?

F

FreebieFan
07-27-10, 07:02
No doubt we have all heard this time and again and thought its what girls say to us ( men). Well, its an oft repeated phrase when girls also seeking girls.

Under Decent Lesbian Looking


I want a discreet relationship.{ if okay if not I am doubt to commit}
Educated is must.
And she understands me and she accept me as what I am.Or we' re also all familiar with girls saying they looking for an American etc.

Well heres an interesting reversal


I'm 50, Single white American woman looking for a Filipino wife. I want a lesbian wife to love me and take care of me. I need a honest loving woman to be my mate.
Age 25-50 would be wonderful. If we got married, I would provide a home, car, education and more even A US Citizenship. So to keep scammers and hookers away,
THE RULES ARE THIS, YOU PAY FOR YOU OWN WAY HERE TO THE USA UNDER TRAVEL VISA AND IF YOU AND I CLICK, WE CAN GET
MARRIED HERE, AS ITS LEGAL TO MARRY ANOTHER WOMAN NOW. SO COME BE MY WIFE. if things worked out, maybe we could bring the family
to live with us.

KISSES
DANIELLE SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA.Guess the girls approach isnt that much differrent to ours.

Being fond of dressing my girls up in high heels and stocking this lady seems like my female counterpart....


hi, im a 40 y.o. european lesbian, and i will be in the philippines this coming month of august. im looking for a girlfriend, lesbian, or even just curious girl to pamper. i am a generous type, i prefer very young girls. you should be very oral, affectionate and not shy, i love to go shopping with you and dress you up very sexy, high heels, stockings.. so no butch type please.i am very willing to support and pamper you in any way, and i love to do that. no guys please.. sorryTaken from CL.

Wicked Roger
07-27-10, 17:09
I guess everyone will have a different answer, so I hope others post.

I find being naughty in a joking way breaks the ice. One girl explicity wrote "no perverts". I replied that I'm a pervert only some of the time. She replied. Questions like 'are you free to travel', "do you have a bikini', "where is your boyfriend" often will give you some hints about where the girl is coming from.

"where is your bf" is especially useful with younger ones to determine if she has been deflowered. BTW, there is a real stunner at Viking right now, 20, who is "cherry". She goes to school part time for mechanical engineering.
X
GL and XM make good points. Having a conversation for me is very important as I dont shag them 24/7. Extras for me (or variety LOL) can be good as well so mild bondage etc can be raised in the chat. I tell the girls after some horseplay that I know Tagalog/Visayan and then impress them with a few choice nice words/sentences then the very naughty ones (sometimes including the equivalent of "am a horny toad" and "I want to take your ass")

They either laugh and then it breaks the monotony of boring questions or turn off. If latter I dont worry too much.

But making them smile and laugh is important for those I see, chat etc. Gets them relaxed and even if they know you are a tad wicked like me it helps

Slim, 18-23, college girls as GL says are also for me the best as they usually have had a guy before and that makes it all the better.

XMan - maybe will go Vikings tomororw night after one of GL's ladies has visited to meet my cebu fav who knows her well and are 'friends' - GL did she really write that text message or were you coaxing her while in the shower with one of your girls. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Cherry....I like a challenge, will see if Miss A can get the truth. Also Asian Flava and Flux Ice maybe in tow...AF just wrecked his bedroom with 'Am' and FI is going strong with another DIA friend of mine - well 3 when I visited his room a while back (and his own from FH).

Me...well spanking, bondage, schoolie uniforms, CIM and greek...another boring day in the life of WR..and my WW g strings etc have arrived in time ..life is grand

RK and MR - good thing she has wash days in her college schedule as the uniforms need a clean, thank goodness for the hotel laundry

X Man
07-29-10, 00:29
Pleased to say that my DIA adventures have improved remarkably since my earlier post and I'm off to Moalboal with a 40kg edition of Filipina nurse.

WR thanks for the phone number you gave me, although I didn't call it. Instead I went to the bar to have a look, but couldn't find the lass. There was a gal at that bar. Maybe 'charity'. That had the same physical attributes that you described. There really are several stunners there and at Viking. Anyway, I have an early flight out of Cebu on Aug 3.

Oh, and side note. Juliana's at 2. 3:30am. I bumped into four bar girls I had met earlier in the night at the bars and a few others that looked familiar. Two were from the overpriced KTV on Mango (where they occasionally get topless). I won't say the name of any of the bars in order to superficially protect the not-so-innocent.


SNIPO

XMan - maybe will go Vikings tomororw night after one of GL's ladies has visited to meet my cebu fav who knows her well and are 'friends' - GL did she really write that text message or were you coaxing her while in the shower with one of your girls. SNIP

DT Looker
07-30-10, 04:14
I was wondering how many people here look at MFC. A few MFC girls have offered to show me around or want to meet with me. I'm VERY leery because of the appearance of a few of the girls. Strangely, the girls that want me to meet them aren't asking for money on the side, or asking for 'tokens'. (Only time seems to be when their far away from their quota and the cam-period is ending.)

There are 1-2 I am just really asking for advice on.

Miss J likes to just chat and talk about a few things. I get to know things about her and she doesn't bother asking me for tokens. I ask if she would want to come to US, and she says "No". Then one day in her 'room', I see what looks like a School Uniform. Should I avoid? Are there really 19-20 yo going to HS in Phili? Or should I avoid those like what I feel they might be.

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Miss T though is my biggest confusion. We've been chatting for a while, and she has yet to ask me for money. When I actually ask HER if I she wants me to send her money, she says "no" or asks for "one peso". What to me is more surprisingly is how she acts in MFC also. If you didn't know, there is a 'Private show' that you can do with girls where so you can watch them and many girls are willing to do things in Private that they wouldn't do in "Public". She has repeated denied my requests to take her to Private saying "she is shy" around me, and doesn't like it when I'm in the chat room and another member tips her and she show things. She's teaching me phrases in Tagalog and other things about her culture. Just recently, she told me "She didn't like me" and when asking the reason why. She said it was "Because I'm Trash" (not me, but HER). I managed to get her to change her mind so we can be friends. But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)

GregLondon
07-30-10, 11:27
I was wondering how many people here look at MFC. A few MFC girls have offered to show me around or want to meet with me. I'm VERY leery because of the appearance of a few of the girls. Strangely, the girls that want me to meet them aren't asking for money on the side, or asking for 'tokens'. (Only time seems to be when their far away from their quota and the cam-period is ending.)

There are 1-2 I am just really asking for advice on.

Miss J likes to just chat and talk about a few things. I get to know things about her and she doesn't bother asking me for tokens. I ask if she would want to come to US, and she says "No". Then one day in her 'room', I see what looks like a School Uniform. Should I avoid? Are there really 19-20 yo going to HS in Phili? Or should I avoid those like what I feel they might be.

-

Miss T though is my biggest confusion. We've been chatting for a while, and she has yet to ask me for money. When I actually ask HER if I she wants me to send her money, she says "no" or asks for "one peso". What to me is more surprisingly is how she acts in MFC also. If you didn't know, there is a 'Private show' that you can do with girls where so you can watch them and many girls are willing to do things in Private that they wouldn't do in "Public". She has repeated denied my requests to take her to Private saying "she is shy" around me, and doesn't like it when I'm in the chat room and another member tips her and she show things. She's teaching me phrases in Tagalog and other things about her culture. Just recently, she told me "She didn't like me" and when asking the reason why. She said it was "Because I'm Trash" (not me, but HER). I managed to get her to change her mind so we can be friends. But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)

girls can have missed a year amnd still be at high school after 18 but more probably you were seeinga college uniform. the college uniforms look like HS uniforms and the girls can be 17-25

Red Kilt
07-30-10, 12:33
.......... But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)

Be careful DTL. She is grooming you very slowly and surely, with Tagalog lessons and no talk about money, and she is not rushing it so as to ensure you fall into her trap.
I am still dumbfounded by anyone who "falls in love" on websites/chat sites. Recently I was asked to 'counsel" a work colleague's daughter because this guy (from Canada) who she had been chatting with for more than a year and who had promised her the world suddenly dumped her. They had never met in person.
She was bawling her eyes out to me with crap like "I love him soooo much" and "I know he loved me too". I took a lot of time and effort to try to convince her that you cannot know ANYONE until, at the very least, you meet in person AND spend time together. You still will not know everything about each other that you need to know. As for adding "love" to the situation, forget it. Filipinas love everything (ice cream, romantic movies, Justin Bieber etc). I showed her that she was seduced by the IDEA of having a foreigner boyfriend and all the riches and promises that were contained therein.

So DTL, my comments pertain to you too. The girls know very well that any guy who will spend money to chat with a cam girl will also be a sitting shot once she gets you groomed and under her spell. She is probably doing the same lines with a lot of other guys too.
If you really want a filipina, come to the Philippines and meet as many as it takes.
Cam girls are not a good basis to form opinions about filipinas in general.

Tally Wacker
07-30-10, 18:29
I have chatted many Cam Girls and 99% of them are full of shit and they have a bag full of stories they come up with for different reasons.

Is your Cam Girl making up an elaborate story? Well they work 10 hrs a Day for 6 Days a Week in a little room in front of a computer so they have alot time on their hands and can get desperate.

Many of the Cam Girls are on a very short leash and the Manager / Owner of the Cam is right over their shoulder directing them exactly what to say. Some of the girls are not even the ones typing back to you and its the Manager you are speaking with.

This does not mean all Cam Girls are full of shit and liars. I am friends with 3 or 4 cam girls and spent fun times with them when I went to AC recently. They did not ask or expect money from me and the Sex was great.

Like another member said just go to Phil and enjoy the filipinas in person. If you are still chating with your Cam Girl at that time maybe you can meet up with her and have some fun. They all like to get away from the Cam work and go swimming, eat and get their brains fucked out.

Just dont fall for stories that end with them asking for money. There are honest sincere filipinas that wont ask you for anything even if they are dirt poor. They may even be shy accepting your help and gifts. If you find a girl like this shes a keeper.


Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money.

Econo Tech
07-31-10, 09:37
She's teaching me phrases in Tagalog and other things about her culture. Just recently, she told me "She didn't like me" and when asking the reason why. She said it was "Because I'm Trash" (not me, but HER). I managed to get her to change her mind so we can be friends. But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)It is all part of their genetically encoded system to psychologically make you believe that you are being good to her and you are changing here .. wait till the Blades drop - when you have been caught hook, line and sinker .. :D :D

My 2 cents.

There is no such thing as NORMAL CAM GIRLS - Normal girls don't cam.

The rest are all out to show what they are not made of to take what you have .. if that makes sense

Cheers

PS: your first posting ?? Hope you took some time to read up the previous posts ...

Rubio Tonto
08-01-10, 05:24
...go back to high school. Maybe they had to quit for a few years and go to work. Or maybe they got pregnant as a teenager and had to drop out for a few years, and are just now going back.

DT Looker
08-01-10, 14:47
Well thanks for the advice, although I'm really wondering about it now. I offered to send money, and still told me 'No'. Apparently she was 'not at quota', and STILL refused for me to take her to Private Show, and asked if I could leave the chat room. Where she would then undress and do other things. (I have ways of watching.) She doesn't seem shy to anyone else BUT me. Its a little frustrating since all these other guys get to see her body (officially), but me.

If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.

Gallantnitez
08-01-10, 15:02
I have chatted many Cam Girls and 99% of them are full of shit and they have a bag full of stories they come up with for different reasons.

Is your Cam Girl making up an elaborate story? Well they work 10 hrs a Day for 6 Days a Week in a little room in front of a computer so they have alot time on their hands and can get desperate.I have yet to see a work-a-holic cam girl. The few I know began work with a manager (and without their parents knowledge of what they did) and perhaps worked 5 hours per day (though there are certainly many that seem to work 24/7). When they accumulated enough money they moved home to work from their own computers and became self employed with several friends working with them. The younger cam girls in the Philippines are largely virgin, and guarding it with the same pride of any other normal Filipina. In shows they will often fake insertion and their shows are rather sedate and clearly uninterested. They will never meet up, though while the money is flowing they will say what they must.

In my opinion cam girls are more like average Filipina's and less like bar girls. They do what they must to pay the bills (most do it for their families), but in their minds they are not the same as a prostitute and they feel that they would never go that far. It is a very different world there and seems very contradictory to me.I wonder if my experience is different than yours because the girls I knew were all 18-20, virgin, with close families.

I would be interesting in knowing the camgirls name. I might actually know her and can offer all sorts of personal detail ;)

Econo Tech
08-02-10, 01:09
Well thanks for the advice, although I'm really wondering about it now. I offered to send money, and still told me 'No'. Apparently she was 'not at quota', and STILL refused for me to take her to Private Show, and asked if I could leave the chat room. Where she would then undress and do other things. (I have ways of watching.) She doesn't seem shy to anyone else BUT me. Its a little frustrating since all these other guys get to see her body (officially), but me.

If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.One sentence - she is setting you up for the big haul .. :D :D Knowing filipinas, some will be so eloborate till they refuse every centevo, because they know the mother lode is on the way.

Gallantnitez
08-02-10, 12:56
If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.I still think most guys here are giving Filipina's too little credit. I think most Filipina's dream of a rich foreigner sweeping them off their feet and cam girls perhaps more than most. For some reason you are the chosen one. Perhaps you were nicer to her than she is accustomed to. Perhaps she likes the way you look. At any rate the stakes are even higher than with a money grubber. Sure, she doesn't pester you with stories of her sick Aunt, or begging for money every second like the typical cam girl, but some day you will look down and find a ring around your finger and a ball and chain around your ankle. Then she has your wallet. And your balls too.

Korkavado
08-05-10, 00:41
Oh poor poor pitiful me, forlorn and sick at heart, youth and love have passed me by, fallen for a filipina that caught my eye.

My filipina chat girl so sexy so sweet, trying to get through school and stand on her feet.

I gladly give her the 50 I was going to spend at "Chilis", the next morn with a bad stomach and case of the willies.

My filipina chat girl who loves everything I say, and again I feel alive this very day.

Instead of to a crack ho on the street, I send the 50 to my filipina chat mate until we meet.

I've stepped over the breech, come what may, send your fusillades roaring my way.

Call me a fool, call me a schmuck, I am now a sitting duck.

For when she said "I will lick your ass" I have truly fallen for this little lass.

Oh poor poor, pitiful me.

Red Kilt
08-05-10, 03:49
Oh poor poor pitiful me, forlorn and sick at heart, youth and love have passed me by, fallen for a filipina that caught my eye.

My filipina chat girl so sexy so sweet, trying to get through school and stand on her feet.

I gladly give her the 50 I was going to spend at "Chilis", the next morn with a bad stomach and case of the willies.

My filipina chat girl who loves everything I say, and again I feel alive this very day.

Instead of to a crack ho on the street, I send the 50 to my filipina chat mate until we meet.

I've stepped over the breech, come what may, send your fusillades roaring my way.

Call me a fool, call me a schmuck, I am now a sitting duck.

For when she said "I will lick your ass" I have truly fallen for this little lass.

Oh poor poor, pitiful me.

Yes you are a silly fucker
She has nailed you as a sucker
And when you get here bye and bye
She will suck your budget dry

Manta Ray
08-05-10, 07:40
Yes you are a silly fucker
She has nailed you as a sucker
And when you get here bye and bye
She will suck your budget dry

On the hunt again, but lacking the pesos to pay
You get the bright idea to troll the profiles of DIA
And just to prove that you are none the wiser
You message an alluring little spinner named Eliza

Manta Ray

Marconista
08-05-10, 13:14
Fantastic. BRAVO. :)

Tally Wacker
08-05-10, 19:26
I might be exagerating the extended work hours a little. It depends on the girl I guess. Some more professional Cam girls I've seen who have the gift of Looks and Pure Sex Appeal will just work online for a few months at a time but they work huge hours to accumilate as much money as possible and then head off to school or back to their family or whatever. By that time they have lost weight, their litle butts are sore and they are tired of men telling them your so sexy marry me, I will be in phil next week. LOL

Other Cam girls just work a few prime hours at a time then sleep and eat and listen to music in between time. They usualy don't use toys and are more conservative but put up with more bs from their customers in free chat just to get a few min of pvt.

Some of these girls can be nice regular filipinas and are also open to meeting a good guy to fall in love with and take care of them. If they ask you for money no matter how little it is or what reason they have I would not send it or believe them unless you have met them in person and spent time getting to know them. I would just answer to them yes I know you work hard and you are a nice girl and I like you but I don't send money to anyone I have never met in person. You will find out very quickly if she really likes you or she is just playing with you. She will either get more agressive with her request, slowly stop sending you YM messages or she will continue to be the same sweet filipina girl and continue to be your friend.

Some Cam Girls with no morals have learned the art of scam will say and do anything to get someone to send them money either on their own doing or they are being schooled and managed by someone behind Cam. They only last a short time and need to continuously change screen names.


I have yet to see a work-a-holic cam girl. The few I know began work with a manager (and without their parents knowledge of what they did) and perhaps worked 5 hours per day (though there are certainly many that seem to work 24/7).

I wonder if my experience is different than yours because the girls I knew were all 18-20, virgin, with close families.

I would be interesting in knowing the camgirls name. I might actually know her and can offer all sorts of personal detail.

Tally Wacker
08-06-10, 05:27
Look at it this way. Even if you sent money it really would not change her or her families life at all unless you did it on a monthly basis. If she was not working she would probably be back in the province with her family and completly bored.

Have you ever been to the Philippines? Or are you planning to go any time soon? If not do it!

An online relationship is missing so many factors of everyday life that if and when you ever meet your Cam Girl most of your expectations will be totaly different once you finaly meet her. It may turn out to be better or worse but you will not know that until you spend physical time together.

I met up with 4 different Cam Girls on my first visit to Phil along with many other girls I met online previous to my visit. All of the Cam Girls I met up with were completely different in person than how I saw them online. They all feel safe behind the camera and know they need to show the persona of a sexy girl to gain customers. In person they were shy and reserved but after spending some time with them and a few Long Island Iced Teas they dropped their guard and we had fun together.

So if you feel this Cam Girl is the woman of your dreams just relax and let the relationship take its course and time will answer all of your questions. Just don't make any commitments online for your benifit and hers. If you do go to Phil to meet up with her make sure you put some time asside before and after your time with her to meet other women. It will give you a better perspective on what your looking for and you will also meet other wonderful girls.

Goodluck and don't put your money or your heart in front of common sense. Its easier said than done trust me been there done that.


Well thanks for the advice, although I'm really wondering about it now. I offered to send money, and still told me 'No'. Apparently she was 'not at quota', and STILL refused for me to take her to Private Show, and asked if I could leave the chat room. Where she would then undress and do other things. (I have ways of watching.) She doesn't seem shy to anyone else BUT me. Its a little frustrating since all these other guys get to see her body (officially), but me.

If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.

Amavida
08-06-10, 15:39
...go back to high school. Maybe they had to quit for a few years and go to work. Or maybe they got pregnant as a teenager and had to drop out for a few years, and are just now going back.No, its just much MUCH easier to sit around the school polishing their nails, taking self portraits of themselves with their cell phones, collecting western union from foreigner "BFS's" than going to work 12 hours a day for a pittance salary.

AV

Amavida
08-06-10, 15:49
girls can have missed a year amnd still be at high school after 18 but more probably you were seeinga college uniform. the college uniforms look like HS uniforms and the girls can be 17-25Yes those are college uniforms. Its very common for college girls make a good living sucking money from gullible internet foreigner "BF's".

Meanwhile they are shagging their college pinoy bf's & on weekends prostituting themselves for cash in LA Cafe to any foreigner.

If you spend time to get to know their lifestyles you would be shocked & soon realise the 'shy' act is just that - an act.

AV

Amjeck
08-06-10, 16:28
.

Meanwhile they are shagging their college pinoy bf's & on weekends prostituting themselves for cash in LA Cafe to any foreigner.


AV
I thought LA Cafe was closed?

Sammon
08-06-10, 17:51
Oh poor poor pitiful me, forlorn and sick at heart, youth and love have passed me by, fallen for a filipina that caught my eye.

My filipina chat girl so sexy so sweet, trying to get through school and stand on her feet.

I gladly give her the 50 I was going to spend at "Chilis", the next morn with a bad stomach and case of the willies.

My filipina chat girl who loves everything I say, and again I feel alive this very day.

Instead of to a crack ho on the street, I send the 50 to my filipina chat mate until we meet.

I've stepped over the breech, come what may, send your fusillades roaring my way.

Call me a fool, call me a schmuck, I am now a sitting duck.

For when she said "I will lick your ass" I have truly fallen for this little lass.

Oh poor poor, pitiful me.
Some girls in DIA are legitimately looking for some serious realationships. If you can afford it sending $50/month as a donation is ok. Just treat it as a donation. Whether she rocks your word as a sex object remains to be experienced if you are there in Person. In Spite of what they profess online , in reality they maybe far from it. Having said this I have had great experiences with all my girls I met through DIA. Yes, I gave them money more as a donation than requirement. It clears my conscience .
Only word of caution I can tell you is , do not let her play you for more and more money before you even get into her pants. My rationale is if I stay with the girl for a week I would figure 2000 pesos a whole day and night. I calculate the total say 14,000 pesos. For this I paid 6000 pesos as air fare to fly her down. If local girl no airfare. I buy them gifts like clothes and sometimes cell phones if she totally good to me. When she leaves I give her between 6000-10,000 pesos. They refuse but I tell them to buy something for themselves or their brothers and sisters or for her child in some cases.
If i was alone and mongering I would spend 3000-4000 pesos drinking and barfining or paying a freelancer. The dia girl is there all the time as a GF.
At the moment I am chatting with a 18 year old girl from Butuaan and it is fun to chat with her. She did demand 2500 pesos for month saying she needs money for rent, internet, clothes etc. I have not sent any money saying only after I meet her , I will think about monthly allowance.
If she is good I might seriously consider supporting her.

Amavida
08-06-10, 18:32
..I will think about monthly allowance.
If she is good I might seriously consider supporting her.Yeah, you and the 37 other guys who she also 'misses so much'. Seriously dude you gotta be kidding yourself about this... whats that you say? Your girl is different.. oh right, how silly of me ;)

Butuan seems to be a hotbed of hustlers. Know lots of career 'college girls' from there. All have a LOT of internet BF's in their YM accounts, some do them on rare visits, all paying..

There must have been some Indian seamen left their genes there long ago, the girls there have a more slender physique than the usual Mindanao telly-tubbies.

Amjeck
08-06-10, 19:35
Some girls in DIA are legitimately looking for some serious realationships. If you can afford it sending $50/month as a donation is ok. Just treat it as a donation.
This is horrible advice to give anybody! Best to give money only after you've gotten sex.

Econo Tech
08-07-10, 10:24
This is horrible advice to give anybody! Best to give money only after you've gotten sex.I have to say yes. No wonder there are a lot of runners.

Add to that. It will only be a matter of time 50$ multiplies. In my free time, I was chatting with a cam girl, and within a few days, stranger connections came up and then in no time I had about a dozen plus girls, all in love with me (and I was in love. SOP.) and all slowly started to cry their hearts out and slowly. Pretty slowly started asking $. So 12 X 50 $ for nothing? I may be crazy but aint stupid mate.

In my opinion. Good girls don't ask money on cam, atleast they wait till they see you in person before loving you or skinning you alive.

The others. No comments.

PS: I still can't figure out that somebody could be so smitten on cam girls?: confused:

GregLondon
08-08-10, 02:22
Some girls in DIA are legitimately looking for some serious realationships. If you can afford it sending $50/month as a donation is ok. Just treat it as a donation. Whether she rocks your word as a sex object remains to be experienced if you are there in Person. In Spite of what they profess online , in reality they maybe far from it. Having said this I have had great experiences with all my girls I met through DIA. Yes, I gave them money more as a donation than requirement. It clears my conscience .
Only word of caution I can tell you is , do not let her play you for more and more money before you even get into her pants. My rationale is if I stay with the girl for a week I would figure 2000 pesos a whole day and night. I calculate the total say 14,000 pesos. For this I paid 6000 pesos as air fare to fly her down. If local girl no airfare. I buy them gifts like clothes and sometimes cell phones if she totally good to me. When she leaves I give her between 6000-10,000 pesos. They refuse but I tell them to buy something for themselves or their brothers and sisters or for her child in some cases.
If i was alone and mongering I would spend 3000-4000 pesos drinking and barfining or paying a freelancer. The dia girl is there all the time as a GF.
At the moment I am chatting with a 18 year old girl from Butuaan and it is fun to chat with her. She did demand 2500 pesos for month saying she needs money for rent, internet, clothes etc. I have not sent any money saying only after I meet her , I will think about monthly allowance.
If she is good I might seriously consider supporting her.

Of course, it all depends on your budget and lifestyle and if you are getting good results and are happy then you can feel free to ignore the uber cynics on this but this is certainly being 2-3x as generous than needed. Other commentators are right that Butuaan and other largish but infrequently visited towns in Mindanao (such as Bislig, GenSan, Zamboanga) are hot beds of scamming. This is perfectly logical if you think about it. If a good looking girl lives in Manila or Cebu she can put a nice add on DIA and get 100 messages a day of which maybe 5 will actually be in the city right now. If she wants to generate cash she needs to figure out which of these will actually pay her and go meet them. A girl in Butuan will get only a few random hits mostly from guys with no intention of coming to the Phils (and thus not worried about where exactly she lives). She could spend a year diligently going to the net cafe spending pesos and never actually meet anyone. Therefore most of the "normal" girls in this place wont bother and the field is left open for those trying to make a living from some sort of scamming.

DT Looker
08-08-10, 07:06
Depending on the 'situation', I would say I'm in a very interesting position. I've repeatedly told girls that "I'm Poor" or "Sorry, can't send you money now.". I usually buy tokens very erratically so I don't always have some to 'tip them'. Most of the other girls have either left, and stopped bothering me for stuff. But the ones that do stick around actually become more friends than anything since they know already that you have no money for them, and only thing you can do is chat and get to know each other.

Strangely enough, I still have 2 girls that are 'still in love' with me. If they've been waiting for over a month now for a 'big score', and they sure aren't asking for it. They now don't want me to see their naked bodies at all; are busy with me in the YM more and 'video calls' instead of the Webcam Chat.

The main 'one' actually is sick.. and when I asked if should send some money for medicine she says "No". What she wants is for me to video call her and watch her to try sleep, so whenever her pain woke her up she could see me. Then when she finally fell asleep I could end the call.

The other I can't keep in touch with easily because she's decided to stop being a camgirl and is chatting with me in YM. I ask if she needs anything, and she too blows it off. Says something about trying to be a 'normal girl' so that I know her that way instead of being a 'camgirl'.

Granted this is like 2 out of about 30+ girls. Either I'm getting setup for a 'really big score' or I've found I two gems.

Auzijon
08-08-10, 09:05
Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?

X Man
08-08-10, 14:19
Yeah, you and the 37 other guys who she also 'misses so much'. Seriously dude you gotta be kidding yourself about this... whats that you say? Your girl is different.. oh right, how silly of me ;)

Butuan seems to be a hotbed of hustlers. Know lots of career 'college girls' from there. All have a LOT of internet BF's in their YM accounts, some do them on rare visits, all paying..

There must have been some Indian seamen left their genes there long ago, the girls there have a more slender physique than the usual Mindanao telly-tubbies.Have you been to Butuan? Hope you can give a field report.

X

Sammon
08-08-10, 14:58
Of course, it all depends on your budget and lifestyle and if you are getting good results and are happy then you can feel free to ignore the uber cynics on this but this is certainly being 2-3x as generous than needed. Other commentators are right that Butuaan and other largish but infrequently visited towns in Mindanao (such as Bislig, GenSan, Zamboanga) are hot beds of scamming. This is perfectly logical if you think about it. If a good looking girl lives in Manila or Cebu she can put a nice add on DIA and get 100 messages a day of which maybe 5 will actually be in the city right now. If she wants to generate cash she needs to figure out which of these will actually pay her and go meet them. A girl in Butuan will get only a few random hits mostly from guys with no intention of coming to the Phils (and thus not worried about where exactly she lives). She could spend a year diligently going to the net cafe spending pesos and never actually meet anyone. Therefore most of the "normal" girls in this place wont bother and the field is left open for those trying to make a living from some sort of scamming.
To be honest one should consider all girls as scammers unless proven otherwise. I was just advising the guy who send $50/month to somebody he is chatting with. I advised him to send it as charity only. As for me I would not do that. I am willing to send her money for the air ticket and take my chances. So far I have 100% success with this. Nobody has taken the money and not show up in total of 8 girls so far. I usually do not need added pressure from the family so I fly them into Manila , have a good time , treat them good with some money and gifts. Having said that I have supported two girls over the years for ostensibly studies but not sure. I have gone and stayed in their provinces ( hotel only-I will never stay in their house) been treated to a dinner ( maybe with my money) and found out real village life.
Sometimes rather than staying in AC or Manila or Cebu I like to visit other places with someody I know. It is a good experience.
If this guy who is sending money in spite of not having met her( call it scammed if you like) but if he is happy why worry?
We all are scammed one time or another by people either selling sex, nick knacks etc.

Amavida
08-08-10, 16:27
If a good looking girl lives in Manila or Cebu she can put a nice add on DIA and get 100 messages a day of which maybe 5 will actually be in the city right now. If she wants to generate cash she needs to figure out which of these will actually pay her and go meet them. A girl in Butuan will get only a few random hits mostly from guys with no intention of coming to the Phils (and thus not worried about where exactly she lives). She could spend a year diligently going to the net cafe spending pesos and never actually meet anyone. Therefore most of the "normal" girls in this place wont bother and the field is left open for those trying to make a living from some sort of scamming.Very true except that many of the sweet/shy/innocent girls claiming to be in, for example, Butuan, are actually in Manila most of the time shagging pinoys boyfriends & going to hotels rooms of internet lotharios.. They go home to their province on their frequent & long semester breaks where they shag their OTHER pinoy boyfriends.. they all lie about everything

AV

GregLondon
08-08-10, 17:53
Depending on the 'situation', I would say I'm in a very interesting position. I've repeatedly told girls that "I'm Poor" or "Sorry, can't send you money now.". I usually buy tokens very erratically so I don't always have some to 'tip them'. Most of the other girls have either left, and stopped bothering me for stuff. But the ones that do stick around actually become more friends than anything since they know already that you have no money for them, and only thing you can do is chat and get to know each other.

Strangely enough, I still have 2 girls that are 'still in love' with me. If they've been waiting for over a month now for a 'big score', and they sure aren't asking for it. They now don't want me to see their naked bodies at all; are busy with me in the YM more and 'video calls' instead of the Webcam Chat.

The main 'one' actually is sick.. and when I asked if should send some money for medicine she says "No". What she wants is for me to video call her and watch her to try sleep, so whenever her pain woke her up she could see me. Then when she finally fell asleep I could end the call.

The other I can't keep in touch with easily because she's decided to stop being a camgirl and is chatting with me in YM. I ask if she needs anything, and she too blows it off. Says something about trying to be a 'normal girl' so that I know her that way instead of being a 'camgirl'.

Granted this is like 2 out of about 30+ girls. Either I'm getting setup for a 'really big score' or I've found I two gems.

I'm not clear what exactly it is that leads you to conclude that these two are "gems" . Hookers and cam girls are still women and like most women they are thinking both short term (what advantage right now) and long term (is there a chance of securing a long term prize/meal ticket). Sometimes the long term thinking is not conscious or premeditaed its more like genetically hard wired, but I think this rather than a send you $500 is t=what the guys are talking about in terms of big prize

GregLondon
08-08-10, 23:31
Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?

Did she agree that you could post her pic on DIA ? Do you know for sure she is a hardened pro/ cam girl type? How would you feel had you sent her a naked pic of yourself and she had posted it in a women's mag in your country?

Just a thought.

Amavida
08-09-10, 02:48
Have you been to Butuan? Hope you can give a field report.

XG'day X, its ok place for a visit. Easy access by air. Its not a place I would plan to go back to unless I had a good reason to.

Quite a few non locals there. The girls being more experienced with foreigners so tons of pussy available. As I said the girls there tend to have a more willowy look which I find attractive.

There are some falls you can trek to but it is a long way. Beaches are ok.

Local political killings (mostly over logging), plain old banditry and guerilla activity make me uneasy about travelling outside the metro areas (but then I'm more reluctant to travel outside the towns ANYWHERE in Mindanao these days).

Cheers
AV

Amavida
08-09-10, 02:59
Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?
No but this is not unusual.
Asian women don't do anything without a purpose.
So she did the shy/innocent routine with you & apparently that did'nt elicit the correct response so now she moves on to overt sexual entrapment.

Pretty obvious to me she has been on DIA for a while (they get bombarded with demands for pics like this all the time) looks like she decided to acceed after many fruitless contacts.

An inexperienced non pro would'nt dream of posting a pic like that even if she was talking to a future/present lover.

I could be totally wrong..

How many kids have sucked on those forlorn saggy things?
Av

Tally Wacker
08-09-10, 05:03
I dont think he said he was going to post the pic on DIA but to share her nude photo here in ISG is not much different. Unless her photo was already posted on a free forum for others to view then I dont think its right to post it on a forum without her approval. Also not a good idea for her to send nude photos to a stranger. Since you (Aizijon) say you have chatted with her for some time on DIA maybe she trusted that you would not post her pic?

The photos I have sharred on this site are either of Bar Girls or Cam Girls who already have their nude photos posted online for all to view.

Aizijon what did you expect or want from this girl you have been chatting with from DIA? Were you chatting her about attending church with her family or about hooking up for sex? Just curious because you seam alarmed that she sent you a topless photo.


Did she agree that you could post her pic on DIA ? Do you know for sure she is a hardened pro/ cam girl type? How would you feel had you sent her a naked pic of yourself and she had posted it in a women's mag in your country?

Just a thought.

Mature Man
08-09-10, 08:19
Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?

And what would be her nom de guerre on DIA?

Thallipoli
08-09-10, 16:28
No but this is not unusual.

Asian women don't do anything without a purpose.

So she did the shy/innocent routine with you & apparently that did'nt elicit the correct response so now she moves on to overt sexual entrapment.

Pretty obvious to me she has been on DIA for a while (they get bombarded with demands for pics like this all the time) looks like she decided to acceed after many fruitless contacts.

An inexperienced non pro would'nt dream of posting a pic like that even if she was talking to a future/present lover.

I could be totally wrong..

How many kids have sucked on those forlorn saggy things?

AvNew to the scene and curious.

What is "DIA"?

Thanks

Radical Guy
08-09-10, 20:42
Did she agree that you could post her pic on DIA ? Do you know for sure she is a hardened pro/ cam girl type? How would you feel had you sent her a naked pic of yourself and she had posted it in a women's mag in your country?

Just a thought.

I would never send my naked pic to anyone, as I would assume that somehow it will end up on the net somewhere, in some way.

Tally Wacker
08-09-10, 23:33
I had the same question months ago. DIA stands for the www dateinasia dot com website. Some website addresses get blocked on here if they are in competion. i would guess www.dateinasia.com is not one that gets blocked. Its a simple free dating site to hook up with asian gals in various countries.


New to the scene and curious.

What is "DIA"?

Thanks

Sammon
08-10-10, 04:52
I would never send my naked pic to anyone, as I would assume that somehow it will end up on the net somewhere, in some way.
More likely this girl is a camgirl who wants to entice the guy to see more of her. There are lots of camgirls in DIA. Once they get your e mail address keep on trying to get money. Some girls will bare part of their body for one reason or another.

Sammon
08-10-10, 05:00
Very true except that many of the sweet/shy/innocent girls claiming to be in, for example, Butuan, are actually in Manila most of the time shagging pinoys boyfriends & going to hotels rooms of internet lotharios.. They go home to their province on their frequent & long semester breaks where they shag their OTHER pinoy boyfriends.. they all lie about everything

AV
You are generalising all girls. Not all girls shag everybody as you presume. It is not the Butuan girls only. Phi girls are quite open to sex. It does not matter where they live.
Not all girls lie either. Some are decent and honest. I am sorry you met only the girls who lie and shag everybody.
I have had quite a few relationships in Philippines. I trust majority of them.
If you are nice to them they tend to be honest.
Ofcourse nobody knows all secrets about anybody. We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with.

WestCoast1
08-10-10, 07:08
You are generalising all girls. Not all girls shag everybody as you presume. It is not the Butuan girls only. Phi girls are quite open to sex. It does not matter where they live.

Not all girls lie either. Some are decent and honest. I am sorry you met only the girls who lie and shag everybody.

I have had quite a few relationships in Philippines. I trust majority of them.

If you are nice to them they tend to be honest.

Ofcourse nobody knows all secrets about anybody. We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with.Just a bit. Yes, its generalizing. But there is that kernel of truth. Whereas if I'm having an online relationship with a girl in Alabama (or Jakarta), the odds that she has a local boyfriend for sex, and has several online boyfriend's sending her money, is relatively small. Have a relationship with a girl from Surigao or Butuan (or any filipina for that matter), and NOBODY is going to be shocked to find out later that she is boffing a local guy and getting western union from another american and a frenchman.

Just about every expat I've ever spoken to in filipines has been burned by this scenario, and has friends there who tell similar stories. Yet, I don't know any in other asian countries that have this tale to tell. Buddy of mine posts on DragonLadies website. They are experts in what parts of filipines the scamming is coming from. I read the site some. And my friend tells me the filipinas actually admit that they do this a lot, and so do their friends. Some say they are the only of their friends who don't do it.

There are plenty of nice filipinas in Butuan. But also a lot of scammers. They lie for any perceived peso. Who can tell the difference? Certainly not the tens of thousands of foreigners each year that filipinas scam?

"We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with" I think you are right, many guys do this. I don't. I'm both nice and honest, I tell them up front I'm a butterfly. But they flock in anyway, probably because I'm decent to them. Why don't the 'good' girls you speak of run from this?

"If you are nice to them they tend to be honest. " Well, if you are nice to them, they tend to be nice back. Honest? Maybe.

I'll PM you.

Econo Tech
08-10-10, 07:29
More likely this girl is a camgirl who wants to entice the guy to see more of her. There are lots of camgirls in DIA. Once they get your e mail address keep on trying to get money. Some girls will bare part of their body for one reason or another.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QH-qFsIdg8&feature=related

Amadeuss
08-10-10, 17:23
Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?

Nice jugs, men. Would like to have "expereince" with her :-)
Did you score?

Sammon
08-10-10, 17:26
Just a bit. Yes, its generalizing. But there is that kernel of truth. Whereas if I'm having an online relationship with a girl in Alabama (or Jakarta), the odds that she has a local boyfriend for sex, and has several online boyfriend's sending her money, is relatively small. Have a relationship with a girl from Surigao or Butuan (or any filipina for that matter)Try having a relationship with a Alabama girl online or otherwise and visit her 2-3 weeks a year for sex. See where that will get you. She will definitely will be bonking other men during your absense. Same goes to all the women including Indo women. Alabama girl will not be scamming online for money. That is the only difference. I had a GF when I went to School in Kentucky and she lived with me. We had a very good relationship. Every weekend she used to go to her parents house (two hours away farm country)even when I asked her to stay. I thought nothing of it. One day after going to the Doctor she told me she has Syphilis and I should get tested because we were fucking like jack rabbits. Sure enough it was positive and we both had to be treated. I was real faithfull to her. On interrogation she confided that every weekend when she went to her home she used to go out with her old BF.

We broke up right away.

I trust Some not all Philippino girls more than I trust your Alabama girls.

The problems most people have is just because they support the girl they expect the girl to be chaste till they visit. At the same time there is no promise of marriage.

I am sure if you visit frequently and meet her physical and emotional needs they can be trusted.

Those who cheat is not the exclusive right of Philippino or Butuan girls. It is just that some cheat and some do not cheat all over the world.

Amavida
08-11-10, 14:53
You are generalising all girls. Not all girls shag everybody as you presume. It is not the Butuan girls only. Phi girls are quite open to sex. It does not matter where they live.
Not all girls lie either. Some are decent and honest. I am sorry you met only the girls who lie and shag everybody.
I have had quite a few relationships in Philippines. I trust majority of them.
If you are nice to them they tend to be honest.
Ofcourse nobody knows all secrets about anybody. We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with.If your girl is not two timing you its because YOU have'nt found out about it... YET.

I've known expat mates who topped themselves when they found out.

One of my business's is industrial security, i have the contacts & the resources to get the truth about what a girl is up to. It would make your hair curl if you knew how blase young non p4p pinay's are about (let's call a spade a spade) prostituting themselves to foreigners, whilst doing pinoys at the same time.

Two timing is very, very common.
The expression they use to me 'it's just business'.
Remember I'm not talking about hookers, I'm talking about so called 'normal' or 'straight' girls.

I can't stress enough how common it really is.

AV

Sammon
08-11-10, 18:19
If your girl is not two timing you its because YOU have'nt found out about it... YET.

I've known expat mates who topped themselves when they found out.

One of my business's is industrial security, i have the contacts & the resources to get the truth about what a girl is up to. It would make your hair curl if you knew how blase young non p4p pinay's are about (let's call a spade a spade) prostituting themselves to foreigners, whilst doing pinoys at the same time.

Two timing is very, very common.
The expression they use to me 'it's just business'.
Remember I'm not talking about hookers, I'm talking about so called 'normal' or 'straight' girls.

I can't stress enough how common it really is.

AV
Listen. I go to PHI for mongering. Along the way If I have normal girls who want to spend time with me here and there so be it. I do not mind helping them financially but I do not go overoard and love them to death. It does not matter to me if she is screwing around. No woman can be trusted or no man can be trusted unless you are with the person 24/7.
I am just saying to all mongers that it is fine with supporting the girls out of the goodness of your heart. Also it is fun to have a normal girl to stay with you as GF. Life being what it is some girls will be chaste for you while others will not be.

FreebieFan
08-12-10, 04:00
Listen. I go to PHI for mongering. Along the way If I have normal girls who want to spend time with me here and there so be it. I do not mind helping them financially but I do not go overoard and love them to death. It does not matter to me if she is screwing around. No woman can be trusted or no man can be trusted unless you are with the person 24/7.

I am just saying to all mongers that it is fine with supporting the girls out of the goodness of your heart. Also it is fun to have a normal girl to stay with you as GF. Life being what it is some girls will be chaste for you while others will not be.Am in total agreement with you on this. Im quite sure some of the sweet young girls I associate with are also with both other foreigners when Im not around and other Pinoys also.. but its a chance that we take with every girl we meet. As long as they pretend to be sweet, loving and enthusiastic lovers then I think most of us are happy to play along. The play part gets seriously compromised when we or they get serious and expect more from them , and a level of exclusivity.

X Man
08-12-10, 11:55
In the last thirty days I've had sex with two Japanese women and about ten Filipinas. With the exception of one J girl, all of these ladies have been having sex with other people and I don't give a flying fk. No, that's not true. I hope they had a great time...or found it, at the very least, financially lucrative.


Am in total agreement with you on this. Im quite sure some of the sweet young girls I associate with are also with both other foreigners when Im not around and other Pinoys also.. but its a chance that we take with every girl we meet. As long as they pretend to be sweet, loving and enthusiastic lovers then I think most of us are happy to play along. The play part gets seriously compromised when we or they get serious and expect more from them , and a level of exclusivity.

Eaglestar
08-13-10, 01:44
Her name is Marly L on Tagged, 18 y/o flip from Puerto Princess.

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5443430561

She says "I'm looking for a white guy or a filipina I want to experience a girl as much as i want to experience a white guy. I am willing to meet you if you live near me. shhhhh its a secret. Its my time to try everything."

PolyOrchid
08-13-10, 18:46
Two timing is very, very common.... I'm talking about so called 'normal' or 'straight' girls.

I can't stress enough how common it really is.

AVHear, hear! I had a lovely young housekeeper in Davao. She would have me call her on her BF's cellphone every Friday night to confirm I needed her on Saturday. Her instructions were to say I was calling for my wife, and she wanted her to come to clean on Saturday morning at 9AM.

BF would drop her off at 9am sharp, ten minutes later she was in bed with me. I'd leave for breakfast, return a couple hours later, get a goodbye shag, and her BF would be back to pick her up at noon.

Ya gotta love the PI.

Edward M
08-13-10, 21:45
Hear, hear! I had a lovely young housekeeper in Davao. She would have me call her on her BF's cellphone every Friday night to confirm I needed her on Saturday. Her instructions were to say I was calling for my wife, and she wanted her to come to clean on Saturday morning at 9AM.

BF would drop her off at 9am sharp, ten minutes later she was in bed with me. I'd leave for breakfast, return a couple hours later, get a goodbye shag, and her BF would be back to pick her up at noon.

Ya gotta love the PI.Great, but did she clean the place or pull a Seinfeld?

Bob Bowie
08-15-10, 17:05
I am getting ready for the next trip to the PI. I usually hit the dating sites before hand to become familiar with a few girls before I hit their town. I notice Cherry Blossom has really lowered their standards since I first joined 4 years ago. They are even approving pictures of ladies with only their body showing, not their head at all. they used to required clear head shots, now just about anything goes.

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I did find this members profile picture interesting, lucky elephant.

I will be return next month, if anyone else is looking for a wing man during the trip.

Wicked Roger
08-22-10, 05:36
This is about Chat Rooms & Pen Pals not a poetry contest. Even worse when it does not fully rhyme.

As for XM conquests. Some of us have met them. Unlike you

Now back to the thread's purpose

Bob. Lucky elephant indeed, so many to chose from so little time but I always have back up plans as some never turn up or are late that means the next date is at risk. Ask Ultrapilot he works the chat sites and is very successful but has it all planned and organised (the only way IMHO) as is Gangles who spends time with a few girls only.

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08-22-10, 06:01
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FreebieFan
08-23-10, 01:06
Now back to the thread's purpose

Bob. Lucky elephant indeed, so many to chose from so little time but I always have back up plans as some never turn up or are late that means the next date is at risk. Ask Ultrapilot he works the chat sites and is very successful but has it all planned and organised (the only way IMHO) as is Gangles who spends time with a few girls only.And here's another with his schedule made and ready to fly. All too often I make an impossible schedule for myself that leaves me totally shagged out. Although its actually a nice feeling to be sitting at work having shagged mupliple times previously and noticing that somethings missing. And the part thats missing is "the thinking about shagging! " Anyways my schedule for a Manila trip later this week, is Night One. The ex virgin. She gave me her V about 6 months back. I have already called her Mom to ask if she can stay with me, mom agrees then quietly whispers " please don't forget my pasulobong". Anyways ex virgin likes anal and butt plug so we will have a nice night bonking with some horror movie dvds. I may or may not be the only guy she shags, I don't know.

Afternoon Two. Have to do some work but a sweet girl working in Mall of asia will be the afternoon delight. Probably in Eurotel Pasay Road. My first time withh her, 23, 90 pounds.

Evening Two. Old friend Miss B works in legit massage place. Now 21. She rarely asks for anything though this time asked me for Baileys for her Dad. In return she says she will give up her ass. Have to wash the buttplug first LOL.

Afternoon Three. Will meet a DIA gal, 19, 95 pounds, probably Eurotel again as hate the EDSA traffic on a Friday night. Lunch and poke seems to be scheduled.

Evening Three. A gal who is very photogenic, just turned 22. Is a secretary in Mandaluyong. We started chatting about bikinis and is interetested in the idea of wearing one. So I got her plenty. She then shyly texted me yesterday and hopes she can stay overnight. She also said " I hope your not a player " No honey. Not me. 88 pounds. Lovely!

Lunchtime Four. I have a few hours, free and maybe will take Ms Antipolo. Keeps sending words of love via YM. Has a 12 year old daughter but looks fine. She's a maybe.

Evening Four. Have kept it free assuming the batts will be low, but may also be kept for a repeat with Ms Evening Three in case she's as good as she looks.

Morning Five. The Nurse from Pamapanga should be making a reappearance, haven't met up with her for 4 months as she has problems at home and in work, and the father of her kid isn't sending her any money any more. The most uninhibited girl who is turned on my everything. Usual 3 hour session will give her 20+ orgasms.

Evening Five. Fly home and collapse.