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Cuba Tourist
08-23-10, 23:07
If you copy a DIA photo, can you use the number on the back to trace the profile?

Amavida
08-24-10, 03:12
If you copy a DIA photo, can you use the number on the back to trace the profile?WTF?

AV

Red Kilt
08-24-10, 15:49
....................
Evening Five. Fly home and collapse.

I didn't think you'd have time to meet me FF.

You player man. You liar man. Me no like you .

heeheehee joke only

Cuba Tourist
08-24-10, 23:27
What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?

I hope this is clearer. Thank you.

WestCoast1
08-25-10, 01:43
What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?

I hope this is clearer. Thank you.I dont think it will work. There is a search bar where you can type in a username. But the .jpg name won't work.

BillB
08-25-10, 02:59
What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?

I hope this is clearer. Thank you.When you first save the picture to you're computer, you need to change the file name of the photo, to her profile name. For example the photo file is - 1359877_gallery_634118778500000000, her profile name is ( baby.trish01 ) hit the search button and a filter for the different options to search will appear, hit the user name tab and type or paste the profile name example ( baby.trish01 ) now hit the search button in the filter, and the profile you are lookinf for will come up.

Toronto
08-25-10, 03:56
What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?

I hope this is clearer. Thank you.

Why not just save the photo on your computer with her username as the file name? That way you can just search whenever you like using the username.

Tally Wacker
08-25-10, 05:00
No thats only the file or photo name but I'm sure its not associated with her dia account. If I'm wrong let me know.


What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?

I hope this is clearer. Thank you.

Ajacobson
08-25-10, 05:11
Why not just save the photo on your computer with her username as the file name? That way you can just search whenever you like using the username.Well, just speculating but I assume the purpose of the question is to find a profile that was NOT saved, so it's too late for the case at hand.


What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that? Maybe someone else knows a way and may feel free to correct me but I fear you are out of luck. To me it seems DIA profile names are random Version 4 UUIDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid) with a 32-character hexadecimal encoding which are intended to be as random as practically possible (like in astronomical-odds-random). The pictures on the other hand appear to be encoded differently, the first part of the filename (1223454 in your case) is connected to a profile as the number remains the same when a girl changes her picture. Newer profiles have higher numbers. The second part seems to me like a globally rising number connected to all pictures (at least the middle part of it). If there is a way to derive the randomized usernames from the linearly increasing picture numbers (even though the first part is unique to a profile) then I don't see it. Simple HEX-conversions don't work at least.

Tally Wacker
08-25-10, 06:20
Dude can you do that type of astronomical-odds-random thing to help me get laid?
Thats fucking cool. lol


Well, just speculating but I assume the purpose of the question is to find a profile that was NOT saved, so it's too late for the case at hand.

Maybe someone else knows a way and may feel free to correct me but I fear you are out of luck. To me it seems DIA profile names are random Version 4 UUIDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid) with a 32-character hexadecimal encoding which are intended to be as random as practically possible (like in astronomical-odds-random). The pictures on the other hand appear to be encoded differently, the first part of the filename (1223454 in your case) is connected to a profile as the number remains the same when a girl changes her picture. Newer profiles have higher numbers. The second part seems to me like a globally rising number connected to all pictures (at least the middle part of it). If there is a way to derive the randomized usernames from the linearly increasing picture numbers (even though the first part is unique to a profile) then I don't see it. Simple HEX-conversions don't work at least.

X Man
08-25-10, 11:05
No can do.

The moral of the story is...

Save more than the picture; I use a free "printscreen" program that works well.

Don't wait too long to ask for contact information (phone and email and SN site) and find some way to connect the contact information with the pictures you've saved.

Some people have given suggestions about how they do this, none of it was remotely what I do. I guess everyone finds their own way.

X


What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?

For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?

I hope this is clearer. Thank you.

Cuba Tourist
08-25-10, 22:55
Thank you gentlemen.

Cuba Tourist
08-26-10, 04:55
o.marjorie writes she is from the state of Cebu and the city of Luzon. I ask her where she is from and she writes back Mindanao!

Mongrinastrlnd
08-26-10, 05:13
No can do.

The moral of the story is...

Save more than the picture; I use a free "printscreen" program that works well.

Don't wait too long to ask for contact information (phone and email and SN site) and find some way to connect the contact information with the pictures you've saved.

Some people have given suggestions about how they do this, none of it was remotely what I do. I guess everyone finds their own way.

XI've been starting to use OneNote for this sort of stuff. Its been included with Office since the 2007 version, but not a lot of people seem to really use it. The killer feature for me is ability to paste most of what's on a page, including pictures, directly into the notebook. Put various tags on the notes as you go and its pretty easy to find a replacement to suit just your perversion for the evening if your plans change.

Amavida
08-26-10, 05:22
o.marjorie writes she is from the state of Cebu and the city of Luzon. I ask her where she is from and she writes back Mindanao!That's par for the course on all the asian dating sites.
Don't fall in to the trap of wasting too much time on trying to keep track of the women. Let them chase you. There will be plenty enough to keep your little willie busy ;)

AV

Econo Tech
08-27-10, 04:31
That's par for the course on all the asian dating sites.
Don't fall in to the trap of wasting too much time on trying to keep track of the women. Let them chase you. There will be plenty enough to keep your little willie busy ;)

AVI too would not bother to 'verify the info.

Like girls from Manila,

Q: where are you from ? A: Manila
Q: so can I meet you in Manila ? A: no, I am 4 hours away from Manila - Bulacan
Q: So you are from Bulacan ? A: I am from the Province
Q: Where is that ? A: Rizal
Q: Can I meet you in Rizal ? A: Now I am in Romblon
Q: So you are from Romblon or Rizal ? A: You have so many questions ..

Mostly, they just assume you don't know nuts about their country, and every place outside Manila is "Province" and they maybe here, there or everywhere. And their geography sucks. To the extent I joke that Philippines is next to US and Spain!

My 2 cents opinion? Don't waste time trying to get the info corrected.

Like the girl I met in Manila, who is living in Binalaonan, parents are in Tarlac, and where she wants to become a farmer in Zamboanga) and her grand parents are in Palawan. When asked, she said that she lives in province, works in the province, her parents are in the province and her grand parents are in the province, and. No comments.

Amavida
08-27-10, 14:17
Q: where are you from ?
A: Manila
Q: so can I meet you in Manila ?
A: no, I am 4 hours away from Manila - Bulacan
Q: So you are from Bulacan ?
A: I am from the Province
Q: Where is that ?
A: Rizal
Q: Can I meet you in Rizal ?
A: Now I am in Romblon
Q: So you are from Romblon or Rizal ?
A: You have so many questions ..
Oh man, you made me laugh, this captures the grindingly boring conversations so well that one encounters over & over again hehehe :)
Of course there are the ones who offer to fly to Manila to meet you to balance them out ;)
I quickly learned that the quickest way to approach the subject of meeting them was to declare where you will be. Running all over the PI's to meet sluts is wrong wrong wrong. Go where you want to holiday, there will be plenty there & plenty more who will come to you.

AV

Rampana
08-27-10, 17:20
Oh man, you made me laugh, this captures the grindingly boring conversations so well that one encounters over & over again hehehe :)
Of course there are the ones who offer to fly to Manila to meet you to balance them out ;)

I quickly learned that the quickest way to approach the subject of meeting them was to declare where you will be. Running all over the PI's to meet sluts is wrong wrong wrong. Go where you want to holiday, there will be plenty there & plenty more who will come to you.

AVYou are complete right.

I am just past 3 months of paid membership in Cherry Blossoms.

Guys, do not do what I did.

Was a complete waste of time.

95 % of my contacts has been as described in the post before.

LOW LOW LOW standards

Around 9, 000 emails went back and forth in these 3 months.

I almost needed a secretary.

Guy, don't

I regret now what I have done and never do that again.

By the way: A girl doesn't show up for a chatting date will most probably also not show up when you want to meet her in person.

Again: Do not focus on dating sites. It is a complete waste of time.

Just my most recent experience.

Tally Wacker
08-28-10, 00:02
MarkFalcon33,

I had a chance to read your posts. Not much there other than showing that you spend endless hours looking at sex websites. Your posts on ISG are usually putting down other members posts and not sharring anything that you have actually expierienced in real life. Oh well.

X Man
08-28-10, 14:00
How long were you there and how many women did you want to meet? How many did you actually meet? Can you give us examples of how/why things went so badly? Inquiring minds want to know.

I had some bad luck with DIA a while back, but somehow ended up with a gem at the end. Sorry to hear you had such bad luck Rampana. X


You are complete right.

I am just past 3 months of paid membership in Cherry Blossoms.

Guys, do not do what I did.

Was a complete waste of time.

95 % of my contacts has been as described in the post before.

LOW LOW LOW standards

Around 9, 000 emails went back and forth in these 3 months.

I almost needed a secretary.

Guy, don't

I regret now what I have done and never do that again.

By the way: A girl doesn't show up for a chatting date will most probably also not show up when you want to meet her in person.

Again: Do not focus on dating sites. It is a complete waste of time.

Just my most recent experience.

X Man
08-28-10, 14:30
On a more upbeat note, let's hope the two of you will be positive contributors after you visit the Philippines.

With over 2000 posts at ISG, I guess I'm also guilty of spending endless hours at promiscuity-prone websites.

X


MarkFalcon33,

I had a chance to read your posts. Not much there other than showing that you spend endless hours looking at sex websites. Your posts on ISG are usually putting down other members posts and not sharring anything that you have actually expierienced in real life. Oh well.

Jambo
08-28-10, 18:03
Was a complete waste of time.
Oh I have found CB useful. What I do is focus on getting the key details early from them:
- their email/Yahoo Messenger address
- Their cell phone number
- Just where the freak they actually are now.
- Some pics, their real age and name

Then I might stash the info for later use. But no I am not interested in long email/YM sessions with these girls. Seems like if I chat a long time with girls, even the nice ones will get around to asking for money.

I think of it more as collecting the ultimate black book. So that where ever I may want to go, I would have a few numbers to look up. Girls who are more persistent in asking me to come see them, move up in the que.

You can also try chatting up girls you find online in CB/DIA etc when you are there. "Meet me today for lunch?" In one way they may be online scammers. OTOH, if they got a pussy and look good, maybe it doesn't matter. They can spend $ and work for days in boring Internet cafes for a few WU remittances, or spend a couple hours with you for a meal and maybe a little tip. Easy choice I would think.

Wicked Roger
08-28-10, 19:38
On a more upbeat note, let's hope the two of you will be positive contributors after you visit the Philippines.

With over 2000 posts at ISG, I guess I'm also guilty of spending endless hours at promiscuity-prone websites.

X
X

Am fast approaching 2000 and prefer to say that we have spent endless hours in promiscuity-prone bars and establishments so we can then spend hours at promiscuity-prone websites......well I like to research a lot :D

Am back soon in PI so will be able to continue my research...along with the leather, heels, studs, PVC......;)...not for me X but the lovely ladies ...:)

Jambo - useful advice as I tend to do same, move them to YM MSN Messenger so you can C2C (cam) with them to make sure they have not gained weight, are actually female and are sexy..

Rampana - CB and DIA are hit and miss, mainly the latter but work it and dont give up and then you find the kanck and the success rate will improve.

WestCoast1
08-28-10, 22:09
X

Am back soon in PI so will be able to continue my research...along with the leather, heels, studs, PVC......;)For me and my good friend Bop.

Rampana
08-29-10, 21:34
X

Jambo - useful advice as I tend to do same, move them to YM MSN Messenger so you can C2C (cam) with them to make sure they have not gained weight, are actually female and are sexy..

Rampana - CB and DIA are hit and miss, mainly the latter but work it and dont give up and then you find the kanck and the success rate will improve.Thank you for the friendly advice WR and Jambo, especially the one not chatting too long because the tendency asking for money.

I will try my luck again when I am on spot.

Member #4491
08-30-10, 02:55
rampana, you got to see the chatting and the dating as two different sources of amusement. they can be related, but will not always be. it is much easier if you select 5-10 good leads and focus on working on these. when i say select, it can be wise to be a bit of a sherlock holmes since you will blow of your chances if you portray yourself as serious and chat with three girls from the same family. then better you start out as unserious or just play the "i am only looking for friends"-card until you have isolated the various circles of girls.

it is a piece of cake to arrange females in pi so i would not say it is required to "cyber date" any girl, but it sure speeds things up when it comes to "regular girls". kongkings golden rules of executing the sniffing phase already at home will gain you a hastier access to the knickers. it is a fact and it has worked for hundreds of guys before me.

50% of all girls i date when actually in pi is from dating sites. i never visit for long. if i did this percentage would drop since a mall is a better place to meet females. but the dating sites are the foundation of a successful short term trip. but they can also constitute the the whole warming up the engines thing for a good trip. it can be fun just to chit chat every now and then and build up the tension and expectations.

i never bother with the god fearing "accept me and my family for what i am"-girls. they are boring and most often more fake than the normal ones that has not their guard and defense so high. i even find a direct and positive correlation between the good fearing-ness and how much sl*ts or money monkeys the really are. "it takes one to know one" my friend always replies when i call him a pervert, and the same goes for the good fearing over weight hags on dia. their fraud caution meter is in red zone all the time because they are pure money machines that want to maximize their outcome per spent minute.

better to find 5 or 10 relaxed girls, preferably between 18 and 22 where they still have a bit of playfulness left and did not yet run into all the bullshit that makes them "god fearing". be fairly honest and cut the fake moans and false promises, because most people see right through that crap. these girls are often bored and want a value in chatting with you, just as you want some sort of pay off from them. provide that value in terms of being somewhat real and entertaining, and the rest, i.e. the real life interaction, will come by itself. no one is boring, we just make ourselves boring when we try to be someone we are not in front of someone that are not what they pretend to be.

and the two golden rule when it comes to communicating with females;

- make her laugh.

- talk less abut yourself and more about her.

barba

Cuba Tourist
08-30-10, 03:28
I am getting to be pretty direct.

One girl initiates by writing "Hi"

I answer--I will be in Cebu in December-- can we meet? Can we have sex? Coming from the usa.

Answer--oh sure.

Sammon
08-30-10, 04:23
I am getting to be pretty direct.

One girl initiates by writing "Hi"

I answer--I will be in Cebu in December-- can we meet? Can we have sex? Coming from the usa.

Answer--oh sure.

They always say sure to everything. In reality some do some do not.
As you will find out.
Just watch out when somebody readily agrees. She ( He ) maybe a ladyboy
or just playing with you for now. Later demand for money will come.

GregLondon
08-30-10, 04:42
[QUOTE=Sammon]They always say sure to everything. In reality some do some do not.
As you will find out.
Just watch out when somebody readily agrees. She ( He ) maybe a ladyboy
or just playing with you for now. Later demand for money will come.[/QUOTE"

It's classic "bait and switch".

90% of the Pinay's I have met find it next to impossible to think more than 30 minutes ahead. If a girl says she will definitely come and meet you in 30 mins and is on her way, you can assign a 60% probability to it. Agreeing to do something in December is totally meaningless. The guys seriously trying to arrange things for 4 months ahead are either deluding themselves or just feeding their masturbatory imagination.

MarkFalcon33
09-01-10, 09:42
MarkFalcon33,

I had a chance to read your posts. Not much there other than showing that you spend endless hours looking at sex websites. Your posts on ISG are usually putting down other members posts and not sharring anything that you have actually expierienced in real life. Oh well.

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Normally when someone puts a cam girl up and calls it real picture, does not take going to sex sites to tell, or be a rocket scientist to figure out.

If I make a comment, it is not putting someone down, only stating a fact. If I answer someones question IM not 8 months late answering it.

p.s........ Tally Wacker, please learn how to spell

X Man
09-01-10, 11:05
Years ago, when I asked Jackson to creat this CHAT thread, I never realized how it would become a thread for fools to babble. X

Mahku
09-01-10, 11:24
I never bother with the god fearing "accept me and my family for what I am"-girls. Barba

Hey, don't knock God-fearers! Part of the reason for that fearfulness is what they've done, are doing, and will do. Some girls I've been with in the last few days are feeling more fearful, hehe.

Wicked Roger
09-01-10, 13:40
Hey, don't knock God-fearers! Part of the reason for that fearfulness is what they've done, are doing, and will do. Some girls I've been with in the last few days are feeling more fearful, hehe.
Mahku

Good to see you are alove.

From my experience most say "God fearing" and a quick chat and cam interspersed with naughty stuff soon figures out if they are really fearful of not :)

And Barba .... girls are always fearful when you are in town...not like yours truly :D

Gangles
09-01-10, 14:57
As with others here, I have spent a lot of time organising women through dating sites.

I generally reckon on a return of about 5%. That is, of 100 messages I put out, about 5 are real, not scammers, wanting to meet, prepared to stay with me.

And like Amavida, I have learned that the best way is to choose where I want to be. For each city, there is what I call a catchment, a distance of about 4 hours bus ride, within which women will readily travel to meet.

I schedule the most interesting ones, with backups. However, it often happens that by the time that it is certain that the no show is actually not coming, rather than being late, it is often too late to organise someone else. At this time, pull out the numbers for the P4P girls to act as bed warmers.

Sometimes I am astounded at what happens. last trip, one very pretty damsel had agreed to meet me in CDO. When I asked her how long it would take to get there from her house, she said about 4 hours.

In fact, it took 11 hours, she could not tell me that she lived in Pagadian, and had to travel to firstly collect her cousin, then come to CDO. I was livid at being pushed around, but she was so sincere, and now desperately professes undying love and dedication. After about 6 hours being together. Amazing.

Good luck.

Cuba Tourist
09-02-10, 23:09
I was just getting ready to write this one

babe_in_asia

when I saw this---

WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian

Why would she write that?

FreebieFan
09-03-10, 01:06
I was just getting ready to write this one

Babe_in_asia

When I saw this-

WARNING I don't LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if you are that people I will not entertain u. Only asian

Why would she write that?Or another question would be "Why shouldn't she write that". Maybe she's tired of being shagged by whiteguys and wants a change. Maybe she has a loathing or a dislike for Americans. You're not universally loved as you might be aware.

Go out and charm her and let her re-assess her values and statement.

Did you make a comment when all the other DIA girls wrote " I don't like Indians Pakistanis or Arabs" Were not all programmed to like the same.

Some English girls on DIA even wrote " I don't like whingeing Aussies " but please note Red Kilt that I told them Aussies were great people LOL

Econo Tech
09-03-10, 04:42
I was just getting ready to write this one

babe_in_asia

when I saw this---

WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian

Why would she write that?Means she has been broken hearted by an american or white man, so time to explore other stuff .. haha

But that doesn't mean White men are totally off the menu .. :D :D

As to why a girl would write something so silly - including such as "NO TIME WASTERS, I AM ONE MAN WOMAN, NO FUN SEEKERS" well, Welcome to Philippines.

Wicked Roger
09-03-10, 05:12
I was just getting ready to write this one

babe_in_asia

when I saw this---

WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian

Why would she write that?
Well IMHO some would say as she thinks the Asian culture is easier to adapt to so for her it is an easier step to make if she lives outside the Philippines

Some girls however will say that Asian guys have generally smaller dicks, pay more/are more generous, last far shorter in the shagging stakes and are not as demanding in the bedroom as some of us white/american men :D So a much easier time, more spoilt, more time to spend shopping and with girlfriends etc. Less time being a LBFM for us dirty minded white men :)

X Man
09-03-10, 05:39
And then you hear some say they dislike Koreans or Japanese, etc.

My guess is she's had a few bad experiences and then created a negative stereotype. This seems to be more common with the uneducated types, but unfortunately happens with educated people too -- and certainly not only in the Philippines.

Of course the rudeness of her profile will ensure that the negative stereotype will be reinforced.

X


I was just getting ready to write this one

babe_in_asia

when I saw this---

WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian

Why would she write that?

Member #4491
09-04-10, 02:44
Hey, don't knock God-fearers! Part of the reason for that fearfulness is what they've done, are doing, and will do. Some girls I've been with in the last few days are feeling more fearful, hehe.True, Mahku. There are God fearers and god fearers. The second group actually to be preferred, since they are the perfect balance between lust and virtue. :)
But some fear just to much. During a couple of trips I met one 18 year old absolutely adorable girl that unfortunately was fearing god to such an extent that she would not go pass jerking me off while I sucked her puffy tits. Innocent and dead certain that her fanny was closed until after she has heard the church bells. Her mind was not ready. Her body was, making her jeans all damp in the crutch. Sometimes even wet all through the layers of cloth, but God had a firm grip of her. Or rather has since I probed her some days ago on Yahoo. She suggested I would buy her a Mc Donalds (yes the whole restaurant) and then she would open up like virgin Mary did for God. But it would be quite nice encounters anyway. We would lay on bed. Me with a pulse rushing and fighting the urge to just rip of her panties and run away with them as a trophy to sniff when feeling suicidal in my office in icy hell. During those afternoons in MyHotel we where slowly exploring the world of sex. Her body shaking in excitement and her pulse pumping endorphins, making her eyes all glassy and her teen age nipples erect. And then her small hand on my hard T Rex finishing the job in minutes. Only to be followed by an endless dwelling on the importance for me to embrace both Jesus and God during the remaining minutes of her visit.
/B

TurdyCurdyOne
09-04-10, 06:16
In looking not just for sex or short time liasons, I have found that the quickest way to separate women interested in YOU from those interested in what you CAN DO for them, is to simply tell them you're not coming to their country.

This is a very quick way to cut down on the flood of contacts from DIA, the majority of whom won't waste time talking to you, and chat fees, if they think you're not coming there to rescue them.

These women are in he*ll for all intents and purposes. Most of them are poor, have no prospects (especially if over 30) and are living in a really bad country, the Philippines. They are desperate to get out of there or to find some rich guy to raise their pathetically poor standard of living.

If you're looking for love the best thing you can do is change you paradigm as many have advised here, and just go for short time sex and companionship, or to tell them you're not coming there, in which case only the ones that really like YOU and not what you can do for them will continue to chat with you.

Further, of the hundreds of women I have chatted with in the Phil, very few can offer anything to contribute to the relationship beyond cooking, cleaning and sex. Why should the man be expected to fully support her also be asked to help with her family? Despite the Filipina's very sweet demeanor in contrast to all American C***ts, it's really a bad deal to get hooked up with most of these women. Once you do she will restrict your freedom, and exhibit other bad qualities of the wife: jealousy,nagging, etc.

Agree? Disagree? No problem, am open to discussion or a change of mind, if you can present convincing evidence otherwise.

Red Kilt
09-04-10, 08:02
....................Further, of the hundreds of women I have chatted with in the Phil, very few can offer anything to contribute to the relationship beyond cooking, cleaning and sex.......

It's a good line TCO and mostly your statement is around 95% correct but, as with everything, there are always a few exceptions to the rule.
Probably most guys are looking for one of those women in the elusive 5%.
But your point is good to keep in mind by those who trawl through DIA at al.

Jambo
09-04-10, 15:49
A girl in Cherry Blossoms sent this to me today:

.if your looking only for a girl that can give you baby first,It's better don't waste your time to chat with me ok.....You better find a baby maker...I don't like a guy like thatSeems like a sensible girl! But I want one of those "Baby Makers"! haha

Gangles
09-04-10, 16:26
TCO, I think you are a cynical and jaundiced man.

I am one of those who has been looking for true love in the Phils for quite some time..

And I have found it.

In fact, I have found four suitable women.

All are basically self sufficient. Three have never asked for a cent. One has asked for help to relocate to take up a job offer. All are reasonably well educated and can carry a decent conversation, and they are good company.

All in later 20's early 30's. I could take them anywhere, in any company, and they would carry themselves OK.

So, they are there. But hard to find. And I have had to resist the temptation to just go for the easy root. It has meant a lot of research, communication, but worth it in the end.

Pearls. Keepers.

G

WestCoast1
09-04-10, 16:40
I am one of those who has been looking for true love in the Phils for quite some time..

And I have found it.

In fact, I have found four suitable women.

GYou found true love? Or you have 4 lined up? Its not possible to have both.

Gangles
09-04-10, 16:40
As a side interest, I have been doin some research on this issue.

Statistically, Korean penis is about one inch shorter than white American.

But there is cnsiderable variation in size. When I quizz some of the more senior bar girls/waitresses/mamasans, they say that the Korean customer can vary in size from small to very large. Much like westerners.

So I think thaqt it would actually be difficult for bargirls to distinguish that asians are smaller. Maybe not so many really big schlongs.

From a statistical viewpoint, if we assume a skewed normal distribution, we get one bell curve for each racial type. And any two bell curves will mostly overlap, with the only difference being the tails at teh high end of teh size table.

I was watching a short porn video from YouPorn this afternoon, and the guy was black American, hung like a horse. So his member would fall in the far end of the tail, because there may be only a few hundred like him in a population of millions of black American men.

Average length for caucasian Americans is 6", black Americans, 6.5", no figures fro chicano Americans. Nor all the other races in the American melting pot.

Italian caucasians are about 1" longer than American on average..

Koreans, who are racially pure, average is about 1" shorter than caucasian American.

Very complicated.

But always an interesting topic of conversation.

G

Cuba Tourist
09-04-10, 23:52
irish23 says in her profile that she is "strict". I ask her what she means and she says she does not know. I say that she wrote that in her profile and she again says she has no idea. This happens over and over again--they write things and seem unaware of what they have written and express surprise or confusion when I ask them about what they wrote in their profile. Yet on tagged many seem to have many interests and sophisticated (relative to the impression one could form on DIA) tastes. Could this be a language issue?

GregLondon
09-05-10, 00:03
You found true love? Or you have 4 lined up? Its not possible to have both.


Nice point WC

Member #4351
09-05-10, 00:15
Cuba Tourist, there is the possibility that she didn´t even write her profile. There are some ¨helpful¨guys (even at least one ISG forum member), who write the profiles for girls they know and even regularly check out the messages the chicas receive.

Cuba Tourist
09-05-10, 02:34
Yes, I know and I think that is OK for someone to help out in that way. But this profile was not written by Greg London--his work is much better. But maybe she copied it from another girl. Still, you would think she would know what it said!

Another one writes she would like to travel but cannot name anywhere she would like to go. New York, Paris....say something!

By the way, we spoke on the phone when I was in Lima but never got together. Maybe next time. I had an amigos.com girlfriend there. Not so pretty and 10 pounds overweight but nice and fun.

Member #4351
09-05-10, 04:22
Well I'm going to meet up with one who says in her profile that in addition to playing the usual badminton she also enjoys reading and playing scrabble. Should be interesting.

Hope to see you next time you make it down here.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-05-10, 05:52
If one is looking for love why not seek it from a woman of a similar background such as yours? Why not seek love from a western woman who is and comes from a family that is financially sound? This way you remove all doubt if she really loves you or not.

There are millions of Filipinas located in industrialized nations all over the world if Filipinas are just your cup of tea.

This internet sex forum perpetuated myth that all western women are fat and display rancid behavior is ridiculous.

As you have predicted they will for the most part display all the characteristics of western women and you will be expected to shoulder the economic burden of this cohabitation.

It is not an accident that there are so many dating sites designed to match western men with foreign ladies and few for women seeking foreign men.

Western women have earned their bad reputation over time. In the USA the culture supports single women, they can even get pregnant and raise children on their own. Men in USA and similar countries have little value to western women EXCEPT if they are much higher in income and can offer monetary/material incentives.

The morals of USA are such that there is no emphasis on loyalty or monogamy. Unless you are substancially above a woman in income here, you will be mostly ignored. The women in the USA are spoiled brats, most of them.
They talk and act like men. The other exception is if you are exceptionally handsome, then you will be sought for sex primarily.

I have been both rich and poor here. When I was rich it was easy to get women but the problem was finding any quality. Now I am poor and invisible to most women here.

With respect to Filipinas, I guess you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
If you look to women who are educated, speak English well and have some income, you will get western knockoffs, not much different in their behavior and attitudes than American women-they want equal rights and power.

If you look toward the poorer Filipinas you will have more feminine, obedient and less conflict, but then you won't get any contribution financially or in any other way than someone who keeps house.

As I said in the o.p., just having short time liasons for sex is looking better and better all the time, as I am unlikely to find what I am seeking, even in a country where I am comparatively rich.

FurryFriend
09-05-10, 07:00
Men in USA and similar countries have little value to western women EXCEPT if they are much higher in income and can offer monetary/material incentives.

The morals of USA are such that there is no emphasis on loyalty or monogamy. Unless you are substancially above a woman in income here, you will be mostly ignored.

Don't be naive, man! It's the same in the Philippines...even worse.

Do you honestly think a 20 year old Filipina is genuinely attracted to some old white ex-military dude out of some "feminine" and "obedient" notion of romance? It's mostly about money too. The only difference is, a person of average means in America is considered almost a millionaire to women in the Philippines.

In fact, Filipinas are even money-grubbing. Their survival is literally on the line. I've never had an American lady friend ask me for money. The Filipina variety almost invariably will.

I used to also think that Filipinas are an improvement over American women. From personal experience, it's just wishful thinking. Here in America, if a girl likes me, it's likely because she genuinely has affection for me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet.

GregLondon
09-05-10, 08:29
irish23 says in her profile that she is "strict". I ask her what she means and she says she does not know. I say that she wrote that in her profile and she again says she has no idea. This happens over and over again--they write things and seem unaware of what they have written and express surprise or confusion when I ask them about what they wrote in their profile. Yet on tagged many seem to have many interests and sophisticated (relative to the impression one could form on DIA) tastes. Could this be a language issue?

I think "strict" in this context is supposed to mean something akin to law abiding, doing what is told etc. She hears something like a strict teacher and then applies it to the person who is being constrained by the rules rather than the one who is imposing the rules.

Amavida
09-05-10, 08:37
Don't be naive, man! It's the same in the Philippines...even worse.

Do you honestly think a 20 year old Filipina is genuinely attracted to some old white ex-military dude out of some "feminine" and "obedient" notion of romance? It's mostly about money too. The only difference is, a person of average means in America is considered almost a millionaire to women in the Philippines.

In fact, Filipinas are even money-grubbing. Their survival is literally on the line. I've never had an American lady friend ask me for money. The Filipina variety almost invariably will.

I used to also think that Filipinas are an improvement over American women. From personal experience, it's just wishful thinking. Here in America, if a girl likes me, it's likely because she genuinely has affection for me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet.thank god you spoke up FF!
Mate's, there is NO NEED to guess if she likes you or your wallet.
It's all about our 'pesonality' as one wag here used to put it.
get that through your heads guy's!

AV

GregLondon
09-05-10, 08:43
It is not an accident that there are so many dating sites designed to match western men with foreign ladies and few for women seeking foreign men.

Western women have earned their bad reputation over time. In the USA the culture supports single women, they can even get pregnant and raise children on their own. Men in USA and similar countries have little value to western women EXCEPT if they are much higher in income and can offer monetary/material incentives.

...

By and large physical looks and youth are towards the most important features that guys look for in selecting a mate, whereas economic and social status appear towards the top of the list for women.

By coming to economic basket cases such as the Philippines, western men are able to arbitrage the rankings and find someone 20-30 years younger and quite a bit prettier than they could back home. Generally speaking Western women are going to be out of luck unless they are Russian hookers looking for Middle Eastern guys or pretty young things willing to become the latest status symbol for Chinese nuveau multimillionaires.

Starchild2012
09-05-10, 12:50
Did anyone read this news today ...Shocking!!

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http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/SEAsia/Story/STIStory_575134.html

Briton slain over love triangle
MANILA - A BRITISH man who went to the Philippines to propose to a woman he met in an Internet chat room was stabbed to death by her jealous lover on Sunday, police said.

John Lorne McDonald's would-be bride, Nanqueen Romero, 31, also sustained multiple wounds after being attacked by her Filipino lover, police said in a statement.

McDonald organised a party at Romero's home to ask for her hand in marriage, police said, but it was not clear if she had told him about her Filipino boyfriend, Anselmo Locastales, who turned up and attacked the couple. Locastales is on the run, police said.

The British Embassy could not be reached Sunday and no personal details about McDonald were immediately available.

Impoverished Philippine women often use matchmaking websites to find foreign husbands in the hope of escaping the country for a better life. -- AFP

SergeantRay
09-05-10, 16:49
Don't be naive, man! It's the same in the Philippines...even worse.

Do you honestly think a 20 year old Filipina is genuinely attracted to some old white ex-military dude out of some "feminine" and "obedient" notion of romance? It's mostly about money too. The only difference is, a person of average means in America is considered almost a millionaire to women in the Philippines.

In fact, Filipinas are even money-grubbing. Their survival is literally on the line. I've never had an American lady friend ask me for money. The Filipina variety almost invariably will.

I used to also think that Filipinas are an improvement over American women. From personal experience, it's just wishful thinking. Here in America, if a girl likes me, it's likely because she genuinely has affection for me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet.

Furry Friend,

My counter to those who say "Filipina women only want your money" is, "No woman in the US dates a man without carefully evaluating his finances." Don't kid yourself by thinking that American women are free from financial considerations in matters of sex and love.

If you doubt this, try being a divorced schoolteacher and see how far it gets you.

FurryFriend
09-05-10, 17:42
Furry Friend,

My counter to those who say "Filipina women only want your money" is, "No woman in the US dates a man without carefully evaluating his finances." Don't kid yourself by thinking that American women are free from financial considerations in matters of sex and love.

If you doubt this, try being a divorced schoolteacher and see how far it gets you.

Whoa, nowhere did I say American women aren't money grubbers, only that it's less than in the Philippines.

Frank4220
09-05-10, 21:26
Did anyone read this news today ...Shocking!!

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http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/SEAsia/Story/STIStory_575134.html

Briton slain over love triangle
MANILA - A BRITISH man who went to the Philippines to propose to a woman he met in an Internet chat room was stabbed to death by her jealous lover on Sunday, police said.

John Lorne McDonald's would-be bride, Nanqueen Romero, 31, also sustained multiple wounds after being attacked by her Filipino lover, police said in a statement.

McDonald organised a party at Romero's home to ask for her hand in marriage, police said, but it was not clear if she had told him about her Filipino boyfriend, Anselmo Locastales, who turned up and attacked the couple. Locastales is on the run, police said.

The British Embassy could not be reached Sunday and no personal details about McDonald were immediately available.

Impoverished Philippine women often use matchmaking websites to find foreign husbands in the hope of escaping the country for a better life. -- AFP

Yes....another guy murdered! I just posted my comments in the Manila section with a short story on what these girls are capable of.
ITs nothing more than economics. For you deluded souls who like to believe how handsome and witty you are. I will say it again the only reason a younger filipina is with you is your money.
I would be very careful of sending money to any of these girls unless you are married to them or have some real permanent conection. Even then you just dont know.
Surprise...your not the only dumbass chat mate sending her money. I suggest you guys live in the PI for a time, and what you see will will leave your head shaking. 2-3 week trips is hardly enough time to get a feel for the people.

FurryFriend
09-06-10, 07:29
I will say it again the only reason a younger filipina is with you is your money.

I would be very careful of sending money to any of these girls unless you are married to them or have some real permanent conection. Even then you just dont know.

Surprise...your not the only dumbass chat mate sending her money.

As I wrote on another thread, I had a 20 year old Filipina ask me for money whom nobody would normally expect. She's a university student, upper-middle class, lives in a big house in Manila and traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia. Her and I were chatting away on Facebook one night when she suddenly asked for $150.

If someone like her sees us as ATM machines, guess how 98% of less fortunate Filipinas see us?

I've made four trips to the Philippines. I've learned to have fun but never to take them too seriously. I've also developed greater appreciation for friendships back in America. I don't have to be paranoid wondering whether someone is my friend for financial gain.

If y'all want to get involved with a Filipina, do it knowing that it's primarily a business transaction. You give her material comforts. She gives you sex and domestic housework. Nothing wrong with that. That's how it used to be in the old days. Just don't expect her to be around once the cash is depleted.

I think most guys who send money already know he's merely buying her attention (that's why he's sending the money). He's just wishfully thinking she'll eventually be converted.

Don't get me wrong. She'll probably feel grateful and respectful towards you. But it's unlikely to be romantic. A 19-year-old Filipina hooking up with a 57 year old white man runs counter to everything Nature intended.

Starchild2012
09-06-10, 08:50
It’s not shocking at all it happens all the time here. An extremely wealthy German playboy was guned down in Makati in broad daylight for his "nighttime" activities. They say he barked up the wrong tree or sniffed the wrong leg… that leg belonging to one of his employees who was dating a native at the time……

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100618-276191/German-hotel-exec-shot-dead-in-Makati

Yeah, i was following that story for quite a while, hoping that they will catch the gunman...nothing till now...i think who ever shoots first is the winner..i should play more video games :).i have not read any hired killers getting caught lately..just last month parklane hotel in cebu owner was shot dead.. some japanese, indian money lenders and taiwanese business guy were shot dead...nothing happened.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-06-10, 08:59
As I wrote on another thread, I had a 20 year old Filipina ask me for money whom nobody would normally expect. She's a university student, upper-middle class, lives in a big house in Manila and traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia. Her and I were chatting away on Facebook one night when she suddenly asked for $150.

If someone like her sees us as ATM machines, guess how 98% of less fortunate Filipinas see us?

I've made four trips to the Philippines. I've learned to have fun but never to take them too seriously. I've also developed greater appreciation for friendships back in America. I don't have to be paranoid wondering whether someone is my friend for financial gain.

If y'all want to get involved with a Filipina, do it knowing that it's primarily a business transaction. You give her material comforts. She gives you sex and domestic housework. Nothing wrong with that. That's how it used to be in the old days. Just don't expect her to be around once the cash is depleted.

I think most guys who send money already know he's merely buying her attention (that's why he's sending the money). He's just wishfully thinking she'll eventually be converted.

Don't get me wrong. She'll probably feel grateful and respectful towards you. But it's unlikely to be romantic. A 19-year-old Filipina hooking up with a 57 year old white man runs counter to everything Nature intended.


And that is why I am going to hook up with an older UGLY woman in the Phil if I decide to 'settle down'. Not only is she likely to be more loyal but I won't have to worry as much about her having a Filipino b/f on the side.

I am in my early 60's now, but I look about 10-15 years younger. So far I have not been talking to any woman there under 35, but I probably will bump that up to not younger than 40. 40 is considered old there for a woman. Just old enough to not worry about her getting sick on me, having her outlive me, but not so young that she is likely to leave me for no good reason.

They just tacked on another P2500 to visa extension beyond 45 days. If the filipinas did not speak some English and were not so desperate, there would be absolutely no reason to even think of setting foot in that s**thole. I have considered other countries, but the language barriers and the relative coldness of the women compared to Filipinas dissuades me.

You have to admit, regardless of the reason, many Filipinas know exactly what buttons to push to get you to like them.

Starchild2012
09-06-10, 09:12
Yes....another guy murdered! I just posted my comments in the Manila section with a short story on what these girls are capable of.
ITs nothing more than economics. For you deluded souls who like to believe how handsome and witty you are. I will say it again the only reason a younger filipina is with you is your money.
I would be very careful of sending money to any of these girls unless you are married to them or have some real permanent conection. Even then you just dont know.
Surprise...your not the only dumbass chat mate sending her money. I suggest you guys live in the PI for a time, and what you see will will leave your head shaking. 2-3 week trips is hardly enough time to get a feel for the people.

Frank I agree with you, I'm from Asia and lots and lots of Filipinos, Indians, Thai's, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc have made it in America and Europe..they feel like part of the adopted country...they are accepted as they are and mingle with the society..i can cite not 100...not 1000 but a million example of how Asian's have become successful in the west and are part of the society.

BUT, when a guy from west comes to Asia...They are never accepted as part of their own culture....they invent 100 ways to suck money out of you...once you are out on ATM...you are thrown away like a discarded card. I have never seen or read any post in Thai or PH where a farang says he truly feels accepted as part of Thai or filipino culture, even if he marries a local women...WHY IS THAT?

Why are people from the west only seen as walking ATM's and even after spending 1000's and 1000's of dollars never accepted into the Asian society..they are always outsiders.

And we know this is not only about money...'cos Japan and Korea being rich.....the discrimination is equal in rich Asian countries as well. I don't understand why farangs needs to make a compromise in lifestyle while in Asia..while an Asian has full freedom to do what he wants in the west.

Only answer i have is...Asian society or culture is not mature enough to accept other's ...may be in 200 years..things will change...till then...folks from west will as you mentioned be looked for only after their money. Its really a sad thing to say.

Farangs in Asia will be judged on the amount of money they have not the intellect or other good qualities they bring. Its shameful that all Asian countries bar none have this kinda attitude...and on top of that when they go to west ..they demand equal rights...is there anything else that could be termed more Hippocratic than this...

Thaifun
09-06-10, 11:35
Frank I agree with you, I'm from Asia and lots and lots of Filipinos, Indians, Thai's, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc have made it in America and Europe..they feel like part of the adopted country...they are accepted as they are and mingle with the society..i can cite not 100...not 1000 but a million example of how Asian's have become successful in the west and are part of the society.

BUT, when a guy from west comes to Asia...They are never accepted as part of their own culture....they invent 100 ways to suck money out of you...once you are out on ATM...you are thrown away like a discarded card. I have never seen or read any post in Thai or PH where a farang says he truly feels accepted as part of Thai or filipino culture, even if he marries a local women...WHY IS THAT?

Why are people from the west only seen as walking ATM's and even after spending 1000's and 1000's of dollars never accepted into the Asian society..they are always outsiders.

And we know this is not only about money...'cos Japan and Korea being rich.....the discrimination is equal in rich Asian countries as well. I don't understand why farangs needs to make a compromise in lifestyle while in Asia..while an Asian has full freedom to do what he wants in the west.

Only answer i have is...Asian society or culture is not mature enough to accept other's ...may be in 200 years..things will change...till then...folks from west will as you mentioned be looked for only after their money. Its really a sad thing to say.

Farangs in Asia will be judged on the amount of money they have not the intellect or other good qualities they bring. Its shameful that all Asian countries bar none have this kinda attitude...and on top of that when they go to west ..they demand equal rights...is there anything else that could be termed more Hippocratic than this...


I politely disagree. It depends on the circles you deal with. You description fits impoverished farming communities, red light oriented scenes and perhaps the little papa-mama store owners.

Once you are in university educated circles, your own degree of education is understood and respected. You will be addressed with your academic titles as a show of respect.

Secondly, dont mix Thailand and the Philippines. Thai nationalist ideology was influenced by the Nazis. Their concept of "Thai"-land as opposed to Siam is telling.

Filipinos are free of that junk. Much more welcoming and less communication problem.

Add to that that expats tend to establish their own communities and have often a tendency to turn amateur-anthropologist observing the local aborigines. I m part of some discussion boards and it is shocking how little the guys read but how much they claim to know.

So: It is a dialectic relationship that often depends on your own approach. I gave on Thailand not because of the people but the legal system and official discrimination against farangs. The people I deal with I hold dear and in respect.

The idea of filipinos and asian (as such) is an expressions of ignorance.

Sammon
09-06-10, 13:44
And that is why I am going to hook up with an older UGLY woman in the Phil if I decide to 'settle down'. Not only is she likely to be more loyal but I won't have to worry as much about her having a Filipino b/f on the side.

I am in my early 60's now, but I look about 10-15 years younger. So far I have not been talking to any woman there under 35, but I probably will bump that up to not younger than 40. 40 is considered old there for a woman. Just old enough to not worry about her getting sick on me, having her outlive me, but not so young that she is likely to leave me for no good reason.

They just tacked on another P2500 to visa extension beyond 45 days. If the filipinas did not speak some English and were not so desperate, there would be absolutely no reason to even think of setting foot in that s**thole. I have considered other countries, but the language barriers and the relative coldness of the women compared to Filipinas dissuades me.

You have to admit, regardless of the reason, many Filipinas know exactly what buttons to push to get you to like them.
If you are going to settle down in Phi you are better off marrying a younger girl with no kids. Older girls with kids will be a different problem in itself. Atleast if you marry a young girl and make your own kids you are supporting your own.
Yes, younger girls will probably outlive you. This is why you need to make sure you have enough money to support them. Having said that very few girls will play around if you are there physically all the time. It is only the weekend warriors who get really scammed. besides I am sure if you have kids with them they will be more devoted to you.
Once again in any relationship it depends on the love and trust. If she is happy with you, she will not wander.

WestCoast1
09-06-10, 18:52
Why are people from the west only seen as walking ATM's and even after spending 1000's and 1000's of dollars never accepted into the Asian society..they are always outsiders.Concur. They will even tell you (and others) that outsiders, even foreign spouses, are only accepted to a degree. Even if I learn bisayan and marry a local girl, buy a large home for all of us (the entire family) to live in, support them completely for, say, 10 years, I will be the least accepted amongst them. Thai, Indonesian, Filippines, doesn't matter. I was not born one of them. If there is trouble within the clan, the foreigner will always be either the first one they take aim against, or the first one they will turn to for help. This alone should be a good indicator that foreigners are always viewed as an 'outsider', and always will be. There is another board I read from time to time, where this topic came up. Even filipinos wrote in to give this 'outsider always' credence. "Foreigner always a outsider. Maybe it not good to view as ATM, but outsider yes. Even I marry to him, hes outsider to my family always. He's not one of us. Not a problem I think, but never will I tell him hes not accepted. "

Another example. My neighbor's daughter (Jenny) is in college. Her best friend in high school was Laotian (hmongs). Lets call the laotian friend Cammi. The laotian family rents a home nearby, there are about 10 of them living there. Nearby that are two other homes, also rented by the same family, relatives, aunts/uncles, etc. Each of those also house about 8-10 people (so many cousins). The families are integrated like you can't believe. [OPINION ONLY: They live like pigs. The parents work a lot, and leave child-rearing to the older teenage siblings. Jenny shared that the TV is on 24 hours and is used as the babysitter. There are kids watching TV/Xbox even in the middle of the night. They rarely eat together as a family or have family time. ] Various cousins spend the night or eat meals at the different homes like its a regular part of daily living (to go to someone else's house, grab some food, and sleep on the couch or floor, for a day or two). Jenny used to have sleepovers there. Two years ago Cammi got pregnant, dropped school and married her white local boyfriend. They even lived together for a while in Cammi's parent's home while she was pregnant and shortly after the baby came.

Recently I'm at the neighbor's house, we grilled burgers. Jenny shared that Cammi's husband pulled Jenny aside to complain about his wife's family: "They seem not to accept me. I work hard and help provide. My dad buys them groceries sometimes. I have learned and continue to learn their language. I help around the house when we come over. But, there is just something that leaves me outside. Her gramma has never spoken to me even when I say Hi. " No great shock there, fella. You ain't part of their clan. Jenny told Cammi of the husband's despair. Jenny said that Cammi said, "Oh no. He does not need to feel this way. Its true, he's not part of our family, he's my husband. Its just our way. " Inside, I smiled a bit, knowing what was coming from the Jenny. Jenny said she asked Cammi if he would be accepted if he were Laotian? Yes. Jenny asked her father and I if that doesn't make Cammi and her family racists? Why yes hun, you're catching on to another culture's hidden aspect. We are all racist to some degree (even if we aren't aware of it).

In my culture (or multi-culture), in-laws often come to love (or despise) each other. I saw an older mother at the aiport seeing her daughter off give a hug and say, "Love you. " Then she hugged her son-in-law and said the same thing. I saw my own mother do this also. I'm pretty sure Cammi's husband will never get a LOVE YOU in any language from any in-law.

A guy I know in Mindanao married a young pinay 6 years ago. He retired there and got a place not far from her family (I thought he was nuts because of the age difference, and the place they live in is a sh*thole). It was good times. He's helped support her family there. But, its hard times now, and his business here went bust. As the money dried up, he now has barely enough to make the payments on his new place there and feed the two of them. Now that he's not giving mama any more money, they don't like him anymore. They even asked the daughter to move back in with them. He used to say, "They accept me completely. " What a changed tune now. What's that, B*b? Her mother never said LOVE YOU? Yes, they love you as much as they love their lawnmower. As long as it works.

Accepted? Its still about the nickels?

Frank4220
09-06-10, 19:55
As I wrote on another thread, I had a 20 year old Filipina ask me for money whom nobody would normally expect. She's a university student, upper-middle class, lives in a big house in Manila and traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia. Her and I were chatting away on Facebook one night when she suddenly asked for $150.

If someone like her sees us as ATM machines, guess how 98% of less fortunate Filipinas see us?

I've made four trips to the Philippines. I've learned to have fun but never to take them too seriously. I've also developed greater appreciation for friendships back in America. I don't have to be paranoid wondering whether someone is my friend for financial gain.

If y'all want to get involved with a Filipina, do it knowing that it's primarily a business transaction. You give her material comforts. She gives you sex and domestic housework. Nothing wrong with that. That's how it used to be in the old days. Just don't expect her to be around once the cash is depleted.

I think most guys who send money already know he's merely buying her attention (that's why he's sending the money). He's just wishfully thinking she'll eventually be converted.

Don't get me wrong. She'll probably feel grateful and respectful towards you. But it's unlikely to be romantic. A 19-year-old Filipina hooking up with a 57 year old white man runs counter to everything Nature intended.

I agree 100%! I do think most, ISG board members are well informed and know the game here in the Philippines.
Its really interesting how we use the internet to our advantage but on the other side, these girls are just as adapt or even more in using the technology to their advantage.
The money we have does not really give us as much leverage on these girls as we think. They will throw it all away in the blink of an eye. The tuitition, living expenses, money for family. Alot of these girls are really small brained.
But in some cases they are dangerous and even deadly.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309418/Briton-28-killed-Philippines-jealous-boyfriend-woman-intended-marry.html

Cuba Tourist
09-06-10, 20:09
What does Maron-chan from Wroclaw want? I find her comments demeaning because I go to DIA to find a place where age doesn't matter, as they say. I don't want to be told that she thinks I am scum. Let her go to Match.com or wherever.

Maron-chan from Wroclaw in Poland



Hi~!
I had an account here some time ago but I deleted it. And here I am again 8D !
I'm in love in manga, anime, dramas, jmusic etc. But I like other music, too. ♡
Please don't write to me if you're stupid or too old ♡

I want to meet a Male or Female
with age from 18 to 26
and I want to meet for Friendship.

I don't want to meet people who are mean or who think only about sex. Sorry! ♡

TurdyCurdyOne
09-06-10, 21:08
If you are going to settle down in Phi you are better off marrying a younger girl with no kids. Older girls with kids will be a different problem in itself. Atleast if you marry a young girl and make your own kids you are supporting your own.
Yes, younger girls will probably outlive you. This is why you need to make sure you have enough money to support them. Having said that very few girls will play around if you are there physically all the time. It is only the weekend warriors who get really scammed. besides I am sure if you have kids with them they will be more devoted to you.
Once again in any relationship it depends on the love and trust. If she is happy with you, she will not wander.


Nope, the younger ones, under 30 are too flighty, too impulsive and change their minds with the direction of the wind. They are also more likely to have filipino b/f, a recipe for disaster (ever notice how hostile/angry looking the filipino men are in the photos your chatmates send you?)

The older ones with grown kids sometimes also have their kids earnings as means of support, meaning you will have less pressure from the family for handouts.

If they are above 25 yrs old about, and have no kids or have never been in a serious long term relationship, then there is often something wrong with them and/or they are career feminist types.

I have had many of these career women knock on my door. Their story is inevitably the same, they want a partner, but they don't have the time or motivation to devote to a man. They want a man at their convenience. This especially seems to hold true for teachers. If they are not on chat at least twice a week to chat with me or they seem independent, or have any of the other bad characteristics of western women, I drop them. I would rather have a slightly stupid maid type than a career woman nagging or otherwise being demanding.

Thaifun
09-07-10, 07:00
Concur. They will even tell you (and others) that outsiders, even foreign spouses, are only accepted to a degree. Even if I learn bisayan and marry a local girl, buy a large home for all of us (the entire family) to live in, support them completely for, say, 10 years, I will be the least accepted amongst them. Thai, Indonesian, Filippines, doesn't matter. I was not born one of them. If there is trouble within the clan, the foreigner will always be either the first one they take aim against, or the first one they will turn to for help. This alone should be a good indicator that foreigners are always viewed as an 'outsider', and always will be. There is another board I read from time to time, where this topic came up. Even filipinos wrote in to give this 'outsider always' credence. "Foreigner always a outsider. Maybe it not good to view as ATM, but outsider yes. Even I marry to him, hes outsider to my family always. He's not one of us. Not a problem I think, but never will I tell him hes not accepted. "

Another example. My neighbor's daughter (Jenny) is in college. Her best friend in high school was Laotian (hmongs). Lets call the laotian friend Cammi. The laotian family rents a home nearby, there are about 10 of them living there. Nearby that are two other homes, also rented by the same family, relatives, aunts/uncles, etc. Each of those also house about 8-10 people (so many cousins). The families are integrated like you can't believe. [OPINION ONLY: They live like pigs. The parents work a lot, and leave child-rearing to the older teenage siblings. Jenny shared that the TV is on 24 hours and is used as the babysitter. There are kids watching TV/Xbox even in the middle of the night. They rarely eat together as a family or have family time. ] Various cousins spend the night or eat meals at the different homes like its a regular part of daily living (to go to someone else's house, grab some food, and sleep on the couch or floor, for a day or two). Jenny used to have sleepovers there. Two years ago Cammi got pregnant, dropped school and married her white local boyfriend. They even lived together for a while in Cammi's parent's home while she was pregnant and shortly after the baby came.

Recently I'm at the neighbor's house, we grilled burgers. Jenny shared that Cammi's husband pulled Jenny aside to complain about his wife's family: "They seem not to accept me. I work hard and help provide. My dad buys them groceries sometimes. I have learned and continue to learn their language. I help around the house when we come over. But, there is just something that leaves me outside. Her gramma has never spoken to me even when I say Hi. " No great shock there, fella. You ain't part of their clan. Jenny told Cammi of the husband's despair. Jenny said that Cammi said, "Oh no. He does not need to feel this way. Its true, he's not part of our family, he's my husband. Its just our way. " Inside, I smiled a bit, knowing what was coming from the Jenny. Jenny said she asked Cammi if he would be accepted if he were Laotian? Yes. Jenny asked her father and I if that doesn't make Cammi and her family racists? Why yes hun, you're catching on to another culture's hidden aspect. We are all racist to some degree (even if we aren't aware of it).

In my culture (or multi-culture), in-laws often come to love (or despise) each other. I saw an older mother at the aiport seeing her daughter off give a hug and say, "Love you. " Then she hugged her son-in-law and said the same thing. I saw my own mother do this also. I'm pretty sure Cammi's husband will never get a LOVE YOU in any language from any in-law.

A guy I know in Mindanao married a young pinay 6 years ago. He retired there and got a place not far from her family (I thought he was nuts because of the age difference, and the place they live in is a sh*thole). It was good times. He's helped support her family there. But, its hard times now, and his business here went bust. As the money dried up, he now has barely enough to make the payments on his new place there and feed the two of them. Now that he's not giving mama any more money, they don't like him anymore. They even asked the daughter to move back in with them. He used to say, "They accept me completely. " What a changed tune now. What's that, B*b? Her mother never said LOVE YOU? Yes, they love you as much as they love their lawnmower. As long as it works.

Accepted? Its still about the nickels?

Hmongs are/were a hilltribe in mostly Laos. Hired by the CIA to fight the Vietnamese and the Laotian guerilla movement during the war. Then abandoned by the US in a second and persecuted by the new Laotian regime who had to fry some fish with them. Many escaped to Thailand and were recently delivered by the "Democrat" government, yes, to the Laotians. Some even carried on stretchers as they were to frail to cross the border on their own feet...
Some made it to the US.

To equate such a tribal community with the filipinas in general is more than a stretch. Why not equate aboriginal tribes in rural Australia and their problems with the students Sidney University?

It would be nice to stop confusing geography with social structures.

Amavida
09-07-10, 07:26
Hmongs are/were a hilltribe in mostly Laos. Hired by the CIA to fight the Vietnamese and the Laotian guerilla movement during the war. Then abandoned by the US in a second and persecuted by the new Laotian regime who had to fry some fish with them. Many escaped to Thailand and were recently delivered by the "Democrat" government, yes, to the Laotians. Some even carried on stretchers as they were to frail to cross the border on their own feet...
Some made it to the US.

To equate such a tribal community with the filipinas in general is more than a stretch. Why not equate aboriginal tribes in rural Australia and their problems with the students Sidney University?

It would be nice to stop confusing geography with social structures.I've lived here plenty long enough to agree with West'y. The smiles are smiles of anticipation at how much they are going to get from you not friendship. No matter how long you're here or how much you give, you will only be welcome until the dough runs out. Family is everything, family is THEM, you on the other hand are & will always be 'the Amerikano'.

AV

Nvslim
09-07-10, 12:16
Once again in any relationship it depends on the love and trust. If she is happy with you, she will not wander.



I feel sorry for guys trying to find wives/LTGF in the P.I. these days.

When I was wife hunting in the mid-1980 it was another time and another world. Even on long deployments, I never worried about my Pinay wife left at home alone for months at a time. Maybe living in the states had something to do with it. She is cute and still gets the look over even today. Got to love the way Pinays keep their youthful looks and body.

Slim

Shark San
09-07-10, 14:17
First foray into Cherry Blossoms.

P.S.

Thanks to other members who smacked some sense into me.

Deluged, flooded, inundated with responses from Phils. Too many to count or keep up with. Started getting selective about my criteria for even accepting "Smiles" unless they were of the WOW! Category. Gave my Yahoo Messenger to several women. Chatted with half a dozen. Only one brought up the subject of money (at any time) but in general, the convo was limited to "Hello, how are u? " and "please turn on yr cam. " Fair enough. Two days later, began chatting with the woman who wrote the best response. By the way, if their profile didn't indicate a college diploma or did indicate single mother, I didn't even reply. I like the smart ones, the savvy ones, even the tricky ones. I like to play games, too.

From her pics, she wasn't / isn't a 8-9-10 by any stretch. A solid 7 in body and face. But she was smart — wickedly smart — and our first chat lasted over three hours. All of it was above-average convo — her writing ability was better than most people I know in the States.

So there's a connection. We start chatting on YM every day. If I don't show up for chatting at the exact time I said I would — I. E. Five mins. Late, she gets pissed. Then she lets on that she's possessive. Then she starts getting comfy with me and spills the beans. Then it turns out she was a virgin until she was 27. Sure you are, honey. And then her tattoos give people the wrong impression. You think? Then I say "I'm coming to Phils next week" and she says the ex-bf called and said he wants her back. It goes on. [sigh] A week later, she confides that she really "likes" me. Feels guilty. (Catholic). Bcuz she may have feelings for the ex and. Whatever, honey. Now I'm glad I didn't waste a day's ride outside of Manila to meet you.

I'm going to change my CB profile intro / text to read:

I'm coming to Phils next week and I just want to fuck as many of you as I can.

WestCoast1
09-07-10, 14:52
I've lived here plenty long enough to agree with West'y. The smiles are smiles of anticipation at how much they are going to get from you not friendship. No matter how long you're here or how much you give, you will only be welcome until the dough runs out. Family is everything, family is THEM, you on the other hand are & will always be 'the Amerikano'.

AVYes. A pinay marries a local boy, the new lad might (or might not) well be accepted into the family as a son/brother. Literally a son in law. A white guy (from any country outside filipines) will never be such. He will be that guy that married my daughter/niece/sister. Whether he is providing money or not (probably he is), he is nothing more to them than that. Most men get this shortly after marrying her. Some hold the belief (as my mindanao friend did) they are fully accepted much longer (till the dough runs out). Naive, aren't we?

X Man
09-07-10, 17:17
It's not unreasonable to warn people about the dangers of SOME Filipinas.

Nevertheless, this is the chat thread. Whinging about Filipinas may make you feel good, or release some of your anger, but some of you have not remotely connected your complaints to the chat thread.

I politely suggest that you tell the whole ugly story (if it has anything to do with chat friends) or move your ideas to Filipina thread or even ask the ISG master for your own "dangers" thread.

X

TurdyCurdyOne
09-07-10, 23:14
Yes. A pinay marries a local boy, the new lad might (or might not) well be accepted into the family as a son/brother. Literally a son in law. A white guy (from any country outside filipines) will never be such. He will be that guy that married my daughter/niece/sister. Whether he is providing money or not (probably he is), he is nothing more to them than that. Most men get this shortly after marrying her. Some hold the belief (as my mindanao friend did) they are fully accepted much longer (till the dough runs out). Naive, aren't we?

I understand what you are saying. But in many cases, how is this different from the American woman who leaves her husband when he gets fired from his job and cannot find another?

I don't know if it does any good, but I make it clear to my prospective filipina ladies that I have no intention of giving money to their family. They get an allowance and they have to use that for whatever.

Still, it is a real problem trying to figure out if the Filipina is interested in you because she likes you or she likes what you can do for her? Sadly, the latter is the case with most of them, especially those I have met on DIA.

At the risk of being repetitive, the Filipinas with jobs and decent income ( by their paltry standards) tend to be more like American women,-independent and wanting equal rights in the relationship. After all if you want an obedient servant, you have to expect to pay something for it?

Alas, TRUE LOVE is hard to find. In several years of chatting I have not found it. Maybe I am just unloveable.

FreebieFan
09-08-10, 00:14
Yes. A pinay marries a local boy, the new lad might (or might not) well be accepted into the family as a son/brother. Literally a son in law. A white guy (from any country outside filipines) will never be such. He will be that guy that married my daughter/niece/sister. Whether he is providing money or not (probably he is), he is nothing more to them than that. Most men get this shortly after marrying her. Some hold the belief (as my mindanao friend did) they are fully accepted much longer (till the dough runs out). Naive, aren't we?Be careful of generalisations.I've Been married 20 plus years and the family has only ever once asked me for a loan in an emergency which they promptly repaid. I couldnt ask to be more well accepted.

Jambo
09-08-10, 00:26
I like the smart ones, the savvy ones, even the tricky ones. I like to play games, too.
Wow that story sucks! If you are focused on a smart girl, and not necessarily to marry, you might try good old Facebook or especially Friendster. All the girls have either a FB or FR page, and you could meet a girl who is not necessarily out fishing for a husband. You may need a clever line when you friend them though. I am sure you can think of something.

Mr Enternational
09-08-10, 01:41
I feel sorry for guys trying to find wives/LTGF in the P.I. these days. When I was wife hunting in the mid-1980 it was another time and another world. Even on long deployments, I never worried about my Pinay wife left at home alone for months at a time. Maybe living in the states had something to do with it.Of course for you and many others there was nothing to worry about. When I was stateside in the Nav around that time I kept many a Pinay comfortable and in the ready position while their men were out on deployment. Hell, I even had one in San Diego whose husband was a Marine DI and in town during our trysts. I was definitely young and dumb back then to be at some guys house drinking his beer and playing his Nintendo while he was in town. Then there was another Pinay doorknob Wendy who everyone took a turn with. I was at her apartment with her when her husband came home from work, saw us down on the couch and just went straight upstairs. The stories are endless from those days.

Tally Wacker
09-08-10, 05:16
When I was 12 I had a Hmong refugee family of five move into my home in the US. What an interesting expierience as a kid. They were a kind and loving and grateful family. Great cooks too.common everyday things in our life were all new expieriences for them. I remember walking by the bathroom the 2nd day they were there and the 2 ladies were washing their clothes in the toilet. The National Geographic issue that came one month had Laos and the Hmong people on the front page and a big article about them. Turned out the people at my home recognized the Hmong people in the photos. Very interesting time.


Hmongs are/were a hilltribe in mostly Laos. Hired by the CIA to fight the Vietnamese and the Laotian guerilla movement during the war. Then abandoned by the US in a second and persecuted by the new Laotian regime who had to fry some fish with them. Many escaped to Thailand and were recently delivered by the "Democrat" government, yes, to the Laotians. Some even carried on stretchers as they were to frail to cross the border on their own feet.

Some made it to the US.

To equate such a tribal community with the filipinas in general is more than a stretch. Why not equate aboriginal tribes in rural Australia and their problems with the students Sidney University?

It would be nice to stop confusing geography with social structures.

GregLondon
09-08-10, 07:28
Has anyone else noticed that LB's tend to choose predictable nicknames? Aubrey, Audrey, Shane, being three that come to mind.

Wicked Roger
09-08-10, 07:36
Has anyone else noticed that LB's tend to choose predictable nicknames? Aubrey, Audrey, Shane, being three that come to mind.
And that the picture is too glamorous to the extent at times you can sort of guess it is a LB before you even think about chatting. Thats why I always insist on C2C

PS Thanks GL for bringing this back to the subject matter
XMan I agree

WestCoast1
09-08-10, 15:00
First foray into Cherry Blossoms.

P.S.

Thanks to other members who smacked some sense into me.

I'm going to change my CB profile intro / text to read:

I'm coming to Phils next week and I just want to fuck as many of you as I can.This was covered a few months ago, maybe May. Several of us now have a similar CB profile (a bit less harsh). Mine says, "Not looking for marriage or a gf. Just fun times while I'm in town. Contact me if you are like-minded." Amazingly, they are still crawling out of the woodwork. About half have not bothered to read my profile (its the first thing I ask: did you read my profile?). The other half have, and are looking for fun. Lovedempinay.

Manny6648
09-08-10, 21:43
I understand what you are saying. But in many cases, how is this different from the American woman who leaves her husband when he gets fired from his job and cannot find another?

I don't know if it does any good, but I make it clear to my prospective filipina ladies that I have no intention of giving money to their family. They get an allowance and they have to use that for whatever.

Still, it is a real problem trying to figure out if the Filipina is interested in you because she likes you or she likes what you can do for her? Sadly, the latter is the case with most of them, especially those I have met on DIA.

At the risk of being repetitive, the Filipinas with jobs and decent income ( by their paltry standards) tend to be more like American women,-independent and wanting equal rights in the relationship. After all if you want an obedient servant, you have to expect to pay something for it?

Alas, TRUE LOVE is hard to find. In several years of chatting I have not found it. Maybe I am just unloveable.Dont be hard on yourself, i just think its rare to find fiipinas nowadays who will not ask for some help financially. But I think theres still some who are real and who are really looking for true love....in fact, i'm working on one hoping that shes real to me, so far i havent seen any signal that she's not.

Thanks

FreebieFan
09-09-10, 05:28
Has anyone else noticed that LB's tend to choose predictable nicknames? Aubrey, Audrey, Shane, being three that come to mind.Add Irish to that list. Theres a whole army of Irish.

Frank4220
09-09-10, 05:45
I feel sorry for guys trying to find wives/LTGF in the P.I. these days.

When I was wife hunting in the mid-1980 it was another time and another world. Even on long deployments, I never worried about my Pinay wife left at home alone for months at a time. Maybe living in the states had something to do with it. She is cute and still gets the look over even today. Got to love the way Pinays keep their youthful looks and body.

Slim

Funny I often wondered the same things about how the internet has really changed the ladies over time. From my experiences with Filipinas in the 80's to the younger breed now, the changes are glaring.

WestCoast1
09-09-10, 14:16
I have found Filipinas to age horribly and take on a troll like appearance past 45.Past 40. Maybe past 35 most pinay have lost it in the looks department.

Bonker04
09-11-10, 21:09
Just came across this in DIA...............you've got to laugh..! WTF!

(identity concealed to protect the guilty.....yunilyn_2001)

IM SIMPLE BUT IM CARIING LOVING..
HI IM ******* IM WORKING AS I AM WORKIN IN BARS AS BARGIRL IN ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES. ESCORT SERVICE FOR SHORT TYM BOOMBOOM SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE BY MY SELF ALWASY WORKING WORKING ALWAYS SIVCK AND PUSSY PAIN.BUT I REALIZE I NEED TO TAKE REST BY MY SELF.
I WANT MAN FRIEND WHO SI BE NICE WITH ME IN OF COURSE FAITFULL WITH ME LOVING CARIING ALSO HELP ME PAY. I NEED MONEY FOR LIVING. MY HUSBAND IS UNEMPLOYED. AND MY DAUGHTER NEEDS MONEY TOO. I HAVE SOM SICK BECAUSE CUSTOMER DONT USE CONDOM. NO GOOD. ALWAYS HAPPENS. MEN ARE NO GOOD. MY HOBBIES IS I LOVE COOKING.. AHMM REDAING THE BOOKS AHM IWANT TO TRAVILS BUT I JUST ONLY A DREAM COMETRUE. I GREW UP MY OWN PROVINCE DUMAGUETY CITY PANDANON MABINAY NIGROS ORIENTAL..
IF URE NICE GUY U COME I MAKE U HAPPY ONLY FOR SMALL MONEY: THIS IS MYADDRESS:
M**** M*****
NO.** *********
ST.***********
BALIBAGO PAMPANGA
ANGELES..PHILIPINE
BUT I WANT USE CONDOM DONT WANT MAKE U SICK !!

I want to meet a Male
with age from 30 to 80
and I want to meet for

MY LAST BOYFRIEND FINISHED BECAUSE I AM SICK. NOW HE IS SICK TOO. BUT I THINK HE GIVE IT TO ME. HE WAS FUCKING EVERYWHERE IN PHILIPPINES AND THAI. I HATE MY JOB.MANY GUYS ARE DRUNK,NO NICE:JUST BOOMBOOM AND JUST PAY SMALL MONEY. ANGELES BARS ARE TOO CHEAP FOR THIS

Member #4351
09-12-10, 01:07
Doesn't make me laugh, but maybe that's just me. Probably just getting compassionate due to old age.

GregLondon
09-12-10, 01:40
Very unusual profile.

My guess would be written by a jealous Pinay "friend" who she has fallen out with, but who knows??? As David says it's not really funny because sadly it is the reality for some girls here in the Phils.





Just came across this in DIA...............you've got to laugh..! WTF!

(identity concealed to protect the guilty.....yunilyn_2001)

IM SIMPLE BUT IM CARIING LOVING..
HI IM ******* IM WORKING AS I AM WORKIN IN BARS AS BARGIRL IN ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES. ESCORT SERVICE FOR SHORT TYM BOOMBOOM SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE BY MY SELF ALWASY WORKING WORKING ALWAYS SIVCK AND PUSSY PAIN.BUT I REALIZE I NEED TO TAKE REST BY MY SELF.
I WANT MAN FRIEND WHO SI BE NICE WITH ME IN OF COURSE FAITFULL WITH ME LOVING CARIING ALSO HELP ME PAY. I NEED MONEY FOR LIVING. MY HUSBAND IS UNEMPLOYED. AND MY DAUGHTER NEEDS MONEY TOO. I HAVE SOM SICK BECAUSE CUSTOMER DONT USE CONDOM. NO GOOD. ALWAYS HAPPENS. MEN ARE NO GOOD. MY HOBBIES IS I LOVE COOKING.. AHMM REDAING THE BOOKS AHM IWANT TO TRAVILS BUT I JUST ONLY A DREAM COMETRUE. I GREW UP MY OWN PROVINCE DUMAGUETY CITY PANDANON MABINAY NIGROS ORIENTAL..
IF URE NICE GUY U COME I MAKE U HAPPY ONLY FOR SMALL MONEY: THIS IS MYADDRESS:
M**** M*****
NO.** *********
ST.***********
BALIBAGO PAMPANGA
ANGELES..PHILIPINE
BUT I WANT USE CONDOM DONT WANT MAKE U SICK !!

I want to meet a Male
with age from 30 to 80
and I want to meet for

MY LAST BOYFRIEND FINISHED BECAUSE I AM SICK. NOW HE IS SICK TOO. BUT I THINK HE GIVE IT TO ME. HE WAS FUCKING EVERYWHERE IN PHILIPPINES AND THAI. I HATE MY JOB.MANY GUYS ARE DRUNK,NO NICE:JUST BOOMBOOM AND JUST PAY SMALL MONEY. ANGELES BARS ARE TOO CHEAP FOR THIS

Bonker04
09-12-10, 06:08
Very unusual profile.

My guess would be written by a jealous Pinay "friend" who she has fallen out with, but who knows??? As David says it's not really funny because sadly it is the reality for some girls here in the Phils.

I am sure you're right, I only thought the text was funny, clearly not her situation, which, if true, is very sad indeed! Almost certainly not posted by the girl herself, which is why I deleted her name/address.

No offence intended!

Wicked Roger
09-12-10, 07:57
Doesn't make me laugh, but maybe that's just me. Probably just getting compassionate due to old age.

Or by the latest westerner who has just found out that the undying love she promised him while in AC lasted as long as he was there....seen a few of these before and I generally tend to think these are written by obessive westerners who spent/sent loads of cash to girls they barely knew (maybe seen a few times) and then subsequently find out that a bar girl in AC will not change her spots...sad, pathetic but so many times over very ture

Nvslim
09-12-10, 12:22
Past 40. Maybe past 35 most pinay have lost it in the looks department.



My wife is in the 40+ category and I can't keep my hands off her. Her body is still defying gravity. She has only gained 5 lbs over 20+ years. She is still slim and cute and could pass for 30 on a good day.

I have seen quite a few MILFs in the PI that would give the bar girls a run for their money.

Slim

Red Kilt
09-12-10, 12:24
Very unusual profile.

My guess would be written by a jealous Pinay "friend" who she has fallen out with, but who knows??? As David says it's not really funny because sadly it is the reality for some girls here in the Phils.

I'm not so sure; I think it is written by a naive silly little girl who doesn't realise that 100s of guys will read it and half will probably light up and respond.

It has all the grammatical/spelling errors of a poorly schooled person too.

So many girls do not realise just how big the www is nor do they have much of a clue about protecting their identity. I have lost count of the number of times I have received a message from a DIA girl that she has sent simultaneously to 5 or 6 other guys whose names appear in the "To" section. It is naivete of the highest order.

White Whale
09-12-10, 17:00
So many girls do not realise just how big the www is nor do they have much of a clue about protecting their identity.

It is one more strong argument you NOT to accept them as your Facebook friends.

Wicked Roger
09-12-10, 18:46
It is one more strong argument you NOT to accept them as your Facebook friends.

Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....

If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do..:( Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly..:) Then we are all in the shit :D

Member #4491
09-12-10, 19:37
WR, this already is out there. The picture database indexing is growing by the minute, but I did not yet get a match on any pictures I searched. I do not have address on this computer but I guess everyone knows of Google by now.

Closing and reopening accounts I find to be the best way to go with social networks. I stick to two or three that are more dating oriented. Facebook is not one of them in my opinion.

B

White Whale
09-12-10, 19:42
Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....

If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do..:( Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly..:) Then we are all in the shit :D

Tineye (Firefox etc plugin) does good job for photos. Even with watermarks or face covers. In one hooker setup web page it recognized pictures where hair color was photoshopped from blond to black. I do not know where its' database comes from. Most of the russian photo web sites are well covered ie. most fake pictures in the hooker web site mentioned can be revealed as fakes.

Cunning Stunt
09-12-10, 21:17
My wife is in the 40+ category and I can't keep my hands off her. Her body is still defying gravity. She has only gained 5 lbs over 20+ years. She is still slim and cute and could pass for 30 on a good day.

I have seen quite a few MILFs in the PI that would give the bar girls a run for their money.


Lucky slim! Mines twice the woman that she was when I first met her - lol;).

Agree with your point about MILFs. And they are so grateful for the attention too:). Love the young dollies but an occasional MILF clears the tubes.

WestCoast1
09-12-10, 22:40
My wife is in the 40+ category and I can't keep my hands off her. Her body is still defying gravity. She has only gained 5 lbs over 20+ years. She is still slim and cute and could pass for 30 on a good day.

I have seen quite a few MILFs in the PI that would give the bar girls a run for their money.

SlimI wouldn't argue that. But as a whole, I find them unattractive in later (or middle) years. Other nationalities of this age-range, age more gracefully.

FreebieFan
09-13-10, 00:47
Simpler way is don't have facebook, friendster, myspace et al. The number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends. Who most they have never met.

If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do. Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly. Then we are all in the shitI'm 100% with you. Notwithstanding the fact that wife, kids etc all have Facebook and "Dad" would have a had time explaining why all his friends happened to under 30, totally female and resident in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia.

And yes even with multiple email addresses and different names, theres still a chance of being found, so no Facebook for me.

FreebieFan
09-13-10, 03:28
The beutyful

I'm chatting to another country and then

I'm try register the dateinasaia

And then I'm friendly and I'm honnest me

I'm not lie to the people

Have no working me but I'm study me

And after the study I'm going me and USA country

But I'm searching me boyfirends and I'm like a boy the honnstly and lovable ilove the dateinasia

Netherland

Hehhehheheehe thnks to all tfc and ofw worker the other country I like you.

Wicked Roger
09-13-10, 05:43
Tineye (Firefox etc plugin) does good job for photos. Even with watermarks or face covers. In one hooker setup web page it recognized pictures where hair color was photoshopped from blond to black. I do not know where its' database comes from. Most of the russian photo web sites are well covered ie. most fake pictures in the hooker web site mentioned can be revealed as fakes.
WW and Barba

Just goes to show what a techno ignorant I am :D Best get all my dick pics off the web site LOL

GoodEnough
09-13-10, 08:14
I'm 100% with you. Notwithstanding the fact that wife, kids etc all have Facebook and "Dad" would have a had time explaining why all his friends happened to under 30, totally female and resident in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia.

And yes even with multiple email addresses and different names, theres still a chance of being found, so no Facebook for me.
I understand the reasons for this certainly. But I set up my FB so that no one can access the page, write on the wall or make a comment unless I've accepted them as friends.

Red Kilt
09-13-10, 08:58
I understand the reasons for this certainly. But I set up my FB so that no one can access the page, write on the wall or make a comment unless I've accepted them as friends.

I am the same as you GE.

And.... I never accept any casual female acquaintance as an FB friend either.

Strictly family and close (legitimate lol) friends too, and usually male.

Wicked Roger
09-13-10, 09:24
"Dad" would have a had time explaining why all his friends happened to under 30, totally female and resident in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia.


FF

I would love to be the fly on the wall while you explain that...Piper1 has regularly used my name in vain as an excuse to his Miss Wildcat for his numerous indiscretions....recently he and I exchanged emails about the latest one in case she called me to ask why I had 'done' such a naughty thing ...my answer is always "well its me, and I can":D

You could always try and claim you are doing charitable acts in Asia involving nursing, education, and leather but I somehow doubt that would swng...and blaming me for it may bring in another added complication LOL

See you soon

PS...have replied to your PM via the email. Let me know your thoughts

FreebieFan
09-14-10, 07:28
Being bored at work was chatting to a few ladies. Sowing seeds for future trips etc and finding out how bad we guys are LOL.

Girl 1. Cute girl from Tacloban. Had a bf living in Bangkok. She went to visit him and was very upset that one night he went out, bought home a Thai girl and expected them to enjoy each other for his benefit.

So now theres one girl in Tacloban who hasnt had sex since May 30th.

Girl 2. Jakarta girl who I know in both meanings of the word.

She was living with an 50 year old American gent in Jakarta and about to go through a ceremony for a 3 week marriage.

This is basically an arrangement where girl and guy agree to stay together, he pays a fee, parents approval may or may not be involved, and marriage is considered over after 3 weeks. Good plan I think.

Anyways, she was telling me he went to "work " every day for past 2 months and came home after "work".

Only thing is, he didn't actually have a job. Girls friends saw him in malls, movie houses and bars waiting to go " home ".

When she found out, she called off the 3 week marriage and will now be in Singapore next week.

Man are so bad. LOL.

Radical Guy
09-14-10, 23:15
Girl 2. Jakarta girl who I know in both meanings of the word.

She was living with an 50 year old American gent in Jakarta and about to go through a ceremony for a 3 week marriage.

This is basically an arrangement where girl and guy agree to stay together, he pays a fee, parents approval may or may not be involved, and marriage is considered over after 3 weeks. Good plan I think.

Anyways, she was telling me he went to "work " every day for past 2 months and came home after "work".

Only thing is, he didn't actually have a job. Girls friends saw him in malls, movie houses and bars waiting to go " home ".

When she found out, she called off the 3 week marriage and will now be in Singapore next week.

That doesn't make sense. The girl was already living with the guy, apparently for at least a couple of months. Why would they want to do a "3 week marriage" if they were already living together? I've never heard of such a thing.

FreebieFan
09-15-10, 00:17
That doesn't make sense. The girl was already living with the guy, apparently for at least a couple of months. Why would they want to do a "3 week marriage" if they were already living together? I've never heard of such a thing.Understand Indonesia and you will understand the concept of this.

Thaifun
09-15-10, 07:32
that doesn't make sense. the girl was already living with the guy, apparently for at least a couple of months. why would they want to do a "3 week marriage" if they were already living together? i've never heard of such a thing.

temporary marriages are nothing unusual at least in shia islam. the concept of marriage in islam is different from christianity and is more a legal arrangement than the spiritual new-age stuff christian clerics perform, especially catholic ones - in the spare time when not fucking **** boys.

the dowry is to stay with the bride for her economic security. the arrangement for the girl was perfectly fair to her as she protected her reputation, financial interest, and executed her right to call of the marriage when the husband was not behaving as he should (in her view). she naturally had to right to keep the dowry.
i m not muslim by the way. it makes sense, however, to comprehend different understandings of marriage.

so, good for the guy that he took into account that the girl had a life in her own community. good for the girl that she protected her interests.

Amavida
09-15-10, 12:29
Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....

If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do..:( Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly..:) Then we are all in the shit :D
Oh man you are so right!
Its even worse now, the search engines like google are tying up with FB FS etc to allow indexing of ALL their friggin content! You dont even have to have a FB acccount, all you need is a girl of the moment to causally snap you with their cell phone & next thing you know your mug is on the internet in her album/wall etc. next thing you know some other girl is angrily txt'ng/emailing you about who is that other girl..
If I was a cheater in a relationship I would be bloody careful!!

AV

X Man
09-15-10, 16:20
Don't mean to be contradictory, but your point is one of the reasons I like the SNW sites. Why putter around DIA when Ms. B in Cebu has one hundred friends, several of whom look great. And most profiles have multiple photos rather than the one provided by DIA.

I also have enjoyed going back into the archives, digging out some of those old yahoo emails, plugging it into the SNW search and seeing what comes up. Sometimes you find a stunner and wonder why you never met her. You might find an old flame and learn something new about her. Others are still stunners, but apparently married and living in the west. I even found one I picked up on New Year's eve at Jurassic Park, now living in the west, having YouTube videos on how to put on cosmetics. And to think her fine figure has adorned the ISG threads at one time. And of course some have become twice the women they once were (quoting the stunning cunted one).

X


Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....

FreebieFan
09-18-10, 10:42
Oh man you are so right!

Its even worse now, the search engines like google are tying up with FB FS etc to allow indexing of ALL their friggin content! You dont even have to have a FB acccount, all you need is a girl of the moment to causally snap you with their cell phone & next thing you know your mug is on the internet in her album/wall etc. next thing you know some other girl is angrily txt'ng/emailing you about who is that other girl.

If I was a cheater in a relationship I would be bloody careful!!

AV1. Never give a girl your real name.

2. Never give her your real email

3. Never give her your work/personal phone number. Always keep a second phone and sim for play purposes.

4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.

5. Never let her see your business card or other forms of obvious ID such as mailing address, envelope etc.

6. AND NEVER EVER let her take a photo of you.

Follow these simple rules and a monger can live a reasonably discreet life.

FreebieFan
09-18-10, 10:46
Ms Carylincaliso of Cebu writes that she wants to meet

I want to meet a Male

With age from 70 to 69

And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.

Hi then, caring, loving, king, goodhearted, concern, sinser, honest of relationship.

So if you are a sweet guy just turned 69, grab her quick and before you hit 70. Oh and she's only 18. LOL

GregLondon
09-18-10, 12:38
I've just had a very familiar situation on DIA. you chat with a "girl", she seems unusually willing to please, then it emerges that she is a LB. You say sorry i'm just looking for a real girl bye.

10 Minutes later she is texting offering a real girl who is a friend of hers.

I've pursued such offers a couple of times before and not had especially good experiences. The LB typically wants to come along to collect some sort of commission. If possible they try to come to your room, if you wont allow it they will hang around outside and start texting the girl after 30 mins.

Has anyone else had more positive experiences in this situation or does this pretty much always happen when LBs are involved?

Red Kilt
09-18-10, 14:52
I've just had a very familiar situation on DIA. you chat with a "girl", she seems unusually willing to please, then it emerges that she is a LB. You say sorry i'm just looking for a real girl bye.

10 Minutes later she is texting offering a real girl who is a friend of hers.

........................

Why are you so quick to give out your cell phone number GL?
You said she is texting you???

I hold my cp number in reserve until I have established all the bona fides of any contact.

I have learned that once any girl gets a cp number she will bombard you with texts and crazy messages (like "did u eat" and "I miss you" etc etc)

GregLondon
09-18-10, 15:34
Why are you so quick to give out your cell phone number GL?
You said she is texting you???

I hold my cp number in reserve until I have established all the bona fides of any contact.

I have learned that once any girl gets a cp number she will bombard you with texts and crazy messages (like "did u eat" and "I miss you" etc etc)

Ive sometimes had problems with being bombarded with pointless texts but generally its not been too much of a problem, but Im probably more text tolerant than many guys.

Mongrinastrlnd
09-18-10, 16:10
I have learned that once any girl gets a cp number she will bombard you with texts and crazy messages (like "did u eat" and "I miss you" etc etc)I've only got 2 of these going now, out of half a dozen actively texting me, but man oh man are they mind-numbing.

Sammon
09-18-10, 18:09
I've just had a very familiar situation on DIA. you chat with a "girl", she seems unusually willing to please, then it emerges that she is a LB. You say sorry i'm just looking for a real girl bye.

10 Minutes later she is texting offering a real girl who is a friend of hers.

I've pursued such offers a couple of times before and not had especially good experiences. The LB typically wants to come along to collect some sort of commission. If possible they try to come to your room, if you wont allow it they will hang around outside and start texting the girl after 30 mins.

Has anyone else had more positive experiences in this situation or does this pretty much always happen when LBs are involved?

I had the same situation. I believe I chatted with a LB on DIA and He/She never showed face on cam. Anyway within a few days I was going to be in Manila. On arriving in manila I called and the girl answered. She came to my hotel and stayed with me for 4 days and was very good in bed. Cute , young girl too. During conversation she asked me if I am interested in Lady boys. I flatly said no and asked why. she said she has a friend who is a Ladyboy and who wants to be with me. I said no way and I asked her if I was chatting with her LB friend or her? She said no, it was her . I put 2 and 2 together and firmly believed I was chatting with her LB friend.
Anyway she is a very nice girl and never demanded money. But I did give her some money and still keep in touch with her. She is very good.
So it does not matter if a LB introduces you to a girl it might work out OK.

GregLondon
09-19-10, 05:18
I find having a secondary facebook acc very useful to get the real name and pics of a girl. I have now got loads of contacts on FB. Lots of girls like cusing FB chat but I've not found an efficient way of doing this as i like I am sure many people find FBs ownchat interface very poor.

I've downloaded chitchat for facebook which gives a standalone FB chat interface and found it OK but my big problem is that unlike YM I cant rename the girls so i can remember who they are and where they are. Does anyone know of a better FB chat program which would solve this problem?

Cuba Tourist
09-19-10, 19:38
Freebie Fan--

4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.

Are you suggesting to register under a false name?

Why is this important?

FreebieFan
09-20-10, 00:42
Freebie Fan--

4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.

Are you suggesting to register under a false name?

Why is this important?I'm suggesting to pay with cash.

The point of my post was ways to ensure a girl doesn't get your real name, or at least as protection for those of us who are married.

Paying for a hotel with a credit card leaves a trail, including credit card statements which can be seen, and its kinda hard to explain why you were in a hotel when you should have been at home or wherever.

Also, hotel staff have been known to give out names of guests to girls.

If you paid with cash and registered under a name of choice then you are unlocatable.

Just a good practice for those of us trying to stay incognito.

Red Kilt
09-20-10, 04:25
i decided to try out my theory that most girls on dia don't understand what they put in their profiles nor do they read our profiles carefully.

i opened a new account, and put up a very short, concise profile. i marked myself as "married or attached", and described myself as a "fit, healthy foreigner living in manila for an extended period". i added that i was looking for "open-minded women for discreet daytime meeting for fun only".

within 30 minutes of posting my profile, i had 6 messages. 4 of the 6 had profiles along the lines of "seeking honest man to be my future husband.... no scammers please.....serious man only.......if you just want fun then get lost .....".
i replied to each of these "i don't think you read my profile because it does not match the guy you want".

3 of the 4 who replied sent back "ohhh, sorry" messages along with various gibberish about not meaning what they said etc. the 4th one said (quote) ok i never wrote mt profile anyway my friend did it for me i like what you said and can we meet (unquote)

the remaining 2 of the 6 early replies were better. they both said they liked that i was so upfront and honest and they hoped that we could meet soon in the afternoon for some fun. i will check them out more closely and chat on cam too of course to be sure about lots of things (we all know what that is).

so, my modest little experiment confirmed for me that

(a) it doesn't hurt to be upfront and honest in your profile as long as you are not too "crude"
(b) many girls just see the word "foreigner" and hit reply and say hi without reading anything else (rep001tergun approach)
(c) a lot of girls don't write their profiles. they either copy them or get a friend to write it for them and have no idea what it says.

this is not a surprise to many of you experienced dia or dating site afficionados, but it might help the newbies starting out. i have had a lot of success on dia over the past few years and i think having an "honest" profile is the way to go

FreebieFan
09-20-10, 09:04
i decided to try out my theory that most girls on dia don't understand what they put in their profiles nor do they read our profiles carefully.

i opened a new account, and put up a very short, concise profile. i marked myself as "married or attached", and described myself as a "fit, healthy foreigner living in manila for an extended period". i added that i was looking for "open-minded women for discreet daytime meeting for fun only".

so, my modest little experiment confirmed for me that

(a) it doesn't hurt to be upfront and honest in your profile as long as you are not too "crude"

(b) many girls just see the word "foreigner" and hit reply and say hi without reading anything else (rep001tergun approach)

(c) a lot of girls don't write their profiles. they either copy them or get a friend to write it for them and have no idea what it says.

this is not a surprise to many of you experienced dia or dating site afficionados, but it might help the newbies starting out. i have had a lot of success on dia over the past few years and i think having an "honest" profile is the way to gohey rk.

the alternative approach then using the same logic is then to write a profile saying " seeking love forever and hope to find my true love soulmate here on dia"

when they reply, as they will, say you are looking for extra marital sex and that you didn't really write your own profile. it will confuse the heck out of some of them, but may result in some scoring also.

ps. i'm saying this with tongue firmly esconced in cheek.,

pps. for all mongers who like a good read (not as in bedtime book), theres a gent called kumbu who is now in the middle of a 9 day bkk trip. he writes in a very amusing style on the bkk board (not that everyone appreciates it) but well worth a look if you want to see into the mindset and modus operandi of a fellow monger.

Member #4491
09-20-10, 09:52
RedKilt,

I have the same experience. I used to have a profile with some sort of gibberish about friends and fun, but replaced it with one that is more strait to the point. I do not have a photo either so I rarely get anyone of interest (<22 years) contacting me, but do however still have a lot of young and pretty girls ready to meet after some warming up on Yahoo. Most of them did not read/understand the profile, and this is actually favourable since you can, after chatting them up and telling them about you previous gf and her greed for money (read "there is about X peso to collect here monthly but my ex wanted 2X"), can direct them to your profile with a surprised "oooohhhh did you not read my profile, hun?".

99% are ready to meet and have fun, just as long as you do not date other girls (that day).

B

Cuba Tourist
09-21-10, 04:30
i want a serious guy.....

IM PREGNANT RIGHT NOW

Econo Tech
09-22-10, 06:35
i want a serious guy.....

IM PREGNANT RIGHT NOWYou are not funny! It should be Spanish Girl in Cebu!

FreebieFan
09-23-10, 03:20
You are not funny! It should be Spanish Girl in Cebu!Theres some interesting spellings being used by some profiles.

Case in point being Nelrachselim from Naga.

She is, in her own words " and what a verry pilipina beautyand also wailing to meraid a good man person. "

I'm sure Bob Marley and she would get on well!

Altho in her favour she is 20 and a fine looking girl!

Fslag338
09-23-10, 17:57
1. Never give a girl your real name.

2. Never give her your real email

3. Never give her your work/personal phone number. Always keep a second phone and sim for play purposes.

4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.

5. Never let her see your business card or other forms of obvious ID such as mailing address, envelope etc.

6. AND NEVER EVER let her take a photo of you.

Follow these simple rules and a monger can live a reasonably discreet life.And one more. But not a "technical" one, but very effective: never give a girl the chance to see you more than once or twice so she will not get emotionally involved. That way she has reason to "find out about you". Be very clear of the purpose of meeting with her. Honest but straight forward and cut the ties after 1 max 2 times.

FreebieFan
09-24-10, 04:00
Theres some interesting spellings being used by some profiles.

Case in point being Nelrachselim from Naga.

She is, in her own words " and what a verry pilipina beautyand also wailing to meraid a good man person. "

I'm sure Bob Marley and she would get on well!

Altho in her favour she is 20 and a fine looking girl!And another interesting profile from "SexyCathy" maybeb from Davao or Las Pinas

I enjoy the outdoors and love to (hunt, bike, swim, fish, dance, play music, exercise, hike, travel, stroll along the beach, cook, garden, body build, work on cars, do martial arts, play sports, build things, I work to have a good life am not here for games at all am any international business woman

She likes to body build and is 79 pounds?

"A Filipina that likes to hunt, or knows how to ride a bike, or spends time in the garden? " Theres not a lot of those..

Red Kilt
09-24-10, 12:22
And another interesting profile from "SexyCathy" maybeb from Davao or Las Pinas

I enjoy the outdoors and love to (hunt, bike, swim, fish, dance, play music, exercise, hike, travel, stroll along the beach, cook, garden, body build, work on cars, do martial arts, play sports, build things, I work to have a good life am not here for games at all am any international business woman

She likes to body build and is 79 pounds?

"A Filipina that likes to hunt, or knows how to ride a bike, or spends time in the garden? " Theres not a lot of those..

Hahaha you've been stealing my notes FF. I have been accumulating a cross-section of profile absurdities like these.

You have to laugh though - poor innocent souls, except for the piranhas of course.

FreebieFan
09-25-10, 05:44
Hahaha you've been stealing my notes FF. I have been accumulating a cross-section of profile absurdities like these.

You have to laugh though - poor innocent souls, except for the piranhas of course.There sure are some absurd ones around. I asked the girl who likes to hunt what she has ever hunted. She admitted that she copied a profile from a girl in Europe.

Catch up with you next week. I'm in the middle of the normal girl scheduling hell. Which ones are "In", which are "maybes" and which arent worth seeing.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-26-10, 01:05
Are there any free dating sites covering Phil. and Thailand that have higher class ladies than what you typically get from DIA. DIA has quantity but lacks quality, imnsho.

Wicked Roger
09-26-10, 01:18
Are there any free dating sites covering Phil. and Thailand that have higher class ladies than what you typically get from DIA. DIA has quantity but lacks quality, imnsho.

IMHO most of the girls on DIA are also on the other web site some using different handles. Take time and patience but quality is there as I and others have found, but for every oine you contact maybe only 10% you will see and of that less than 50% maybe are what you desire. But patience and effort will reward you and I have found some lovely ones via DIA

But always C2C first then you can easily weed out the not so quality ones

Freebie Fan works the web site hard and he gets some nice ones

Cheapy
09-26-10, 04:21
I concur with the Wicked One and Freebie Fan. It is work but I love the GFE and when you connect, it's worth the effort. You can always use "casa girls" / massage girls for back-up for those frustrating days & nights.

I'm in Davao now, with a perfect DIA "9", after a frustrating start. She's moving in tonight. Guess I may stay here awhile longer.

Cheapy


IMHO most of the girls on DIA are also on the other web site some using different handles. Take time and patience but quality is there as I and others have found, but for every oine you contact maybe only 10% you will see and of that less than 50% maybe are what you desire. But patience and effort will reward you and I have found some lovely ones via DIA

But always C2C first then you can easily weed out the not so quality ones

Freebie Fan works the web site hard and he gets some nice ones

Toronto
09-26-10, 05:05
IMHO most of the girls on DIA are also on the other web site some using different handles.

Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile. Thanks.

Member #4351
09-26-10, 05:11
IMHO it would be overkill. I can't handle all the messages I get from being on just one site. Anyway, after a few trips, I have found that you're better off just meeting girls here and there during your stay.

GregLondon
09-26-10, 05:36
Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile. Thanks.


DIA = Free for guys so 10 x as many guys than CB or FH. But because it is free the majority of these guys are just killing time or looking fro free cam shows / virtual GFs with no real intention of coming to the Phils. However because so many guys are members it also attracts most girls and scammers and LBs. so it is very much high quantity, uncertain quality. The policy of just one photo is also limiting, one really needs to see her on cam or her pics on Facebook/Tagged.

Some of the better quality girls, and especially those primarily looking for marriage or a LTR give up on DIA as they get bombarded with too many low quality messages. A top quality girl can get 200 messages a day initially reducing to say 50 a day once she has been on for a while. DIA works best in the big tourist areas where guys will typically go eg Manila and Cebu, in Angeles the majority of girls just wait to find a guy in person so its not as useful there. In the places with large populations and not so many tourists, eg the cities of Mindanao, there are loads of girls but many of them are "bait and switchers" promising alot but not delivering if you actually go there, or looking for guys to send them money fpr the fare to Cebu/Manila which of course they will probably just keep.

Tagged = A not very successful social website with good search and message functionality which in the Phils doubles as a free dating site. Less straightforward to use initially because of the poor site layout, But the girls have an unlimited number of pics they can upload. The majority of girls are members because they want somewhere to upload their pics and play games etc and only secondarily as a dating site.

They get loads of messages from guys in India/Middle east but not so many real western guys actually in or coming to the Phils. Tagged is especially useful in the provincial places where their are insufficient tourists to make DIA very useful for the girls. Many such girls will join Tagged for the photo store and social network functionality .

CB/FH = These pay sites have maybe 10% of the guys on DIA but on average the guys there are considerably more serious ie they will at least be really planning a trip otherwise why waste money joining the site. The male demographic on these sites tends to be primarily 40-70 makes primarily from north America Australasia and Europe either lookig for a wife or at least intending to come to the Phils. Multiple photos and better search functionality are a real advantages. The sites have far fewer girls but on average they will be more serious girls looking for a few real dates/prospects rather then being bombarded with many messages.

If you are coming for a short trip for fun I would stick with DIA and Tagged - they should generate more than enough contacts.

If you are looking for a wife or LTR or will spend a longish time in the Phils or are looking for "more serious" girls, then joining CD/FH may be worthwhile. Personally I like the functionality of CB better.

Member #4351
09-26-10, 07:12
The other thing to watch out for Toronto, is that some of the profiles are actually put up by ASSHOLE MEN pretending to be girls. They use bikini photos they have from girls they have met in the Philippines and then troll for guys who don't know any better. They then get these poor fools to send them money. Some of the girls are also being coached by some ASSHOLE MEN who help them to sucker the guys for money. These ASSHOLES then collect in reduced boom boom rates or get freebees. Even seeing the girls on webcam isn't a guarantee that she isn't fronting for one of these ASSHOLES. So be very careful. These pricks aren't Filipino, they are foreigner scammers. Could even be ISG members; you never know....caveat emptor.

Wicked Roger
09-26-10, 10:45
enialyoj on DIA....."does not like pervert person" :D

Well I suppose it depends on the definiton of pervert......:D

Sky Ryder
09-26-10, 14:34
enialyoj on DIA....."does not like pervert person" :D

Well I suppose it depends on the definiton of pervert......:D


Wicked one,

My working definition of perverted is, " If your kinky you use a feather, a pervert uses the whole chicken"........but hey that's just me.....:-)

Toronto
09-26-10, 14:52
Greg London and David_33, thanks for the replys. Much appreciated. I will stick to one or two and do more of chatting up waitresses, cashiers, etc when I am there since I enjoy doing that anyway. BTW, keep up the good work David_33. You were of great help when you helped me out way back in 2004 in Peru.

Sammon
09-26-10, 14:56
And one more. But not a "technical" one, but very effective: never give a girl the chance to see you more than once or twice so she will not get emotionally involved. That way she has reason to "find out about you". Be very clear of the purpose of meeting with her. Honest but straight forward and cut the ties after 1 max 2 times.
What emotional involvement? There is no emotional issues till you meet and hit it off few times. By then you can drop her and move on.
More correct attitude should be do not believe her when she says she is in love with you. These Phi girls say they love somebody before even meeting. It is not love. She just wants to make sure you are hooked on her.
Right now I have a virgin who wants to be with me and promised She loves me. Although we never met.
Some of these girls are so desparate , they think being with a foreigner as a GF is the cure all for them. Even their families get in the cam to look and show themselves. Sometimes their friends also. I guess the girl tells them everything to show them that she is wanted by a foreign man. Some girls start asking for money. Stop talking to them immediately.
If a girl stays with you and makes you happy, you can keep her as a gf and support her. Always make a deal how much you can send her for a month. Ofcourse there will be more demands but you ignore those.
I have supported few girls and kept them as GF. It is real fun to take them on vacations. Bargirls never make trustworthy companions even if you take them on vacation.

Rampana
09-26-10, 15:13
The other thing to watch out for Toronto, is that some of the profiles are actually put up by ASSHOLE MEN pretending to be girls. They use bikini photos they have from girls they have met in the Philippines and then troll for guys who don't know any better. They then get these poor fools to send them money. Some of the girls are also being coached by some ASSHOLE MEN who help them to sucker the guys for money. These ASSHOLES then collect in reduced boom boom rates or get freebees. Even seeing the girls on webcam isn't a guarantee that she isn't fronting for one of these ASSHOLES. So be very careful. These pricks aren't Filipino, they are foreigner scammers. Could even be ISG members; you never know....caveat emptor.

I agree this, it happen to me several times while during the time I spent at CB.

But wisely I found out latest the "girls" don´t wanna show themselves in c2c.

Be careful and watch out the pics with "model-character".

These profiles are most likely just FAKE.

Radical Guy
09-26-10, 16:29
1. Never give a girl your real name.

4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.


Assuming one wants to use a fake name at the hotel, don't most hotels require foreigners to produce a passport?

Tally Wacker
09-26-10, 16:31
I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?


DIA = Free for guys.

Fslag338
09-26-10, 17:08
Just a word of warning. We all know there are many LB on DIA etc. Most tell it either in their profile or in their first mail. But there are those losers who you have to meet to find out. Goddamn time wasters. Happened to me twice in a week grrrrrr Best advice I can give (and will do from now on) is to call any girl you want to meet b4 and try to listen for changed voice. Although even that is no guarantee. Yes cam can help too but i dont have time for all that chat stuff.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-26-10, 23:04
I think some of them are working in syndicate type groups. Either that or they share a common gossip channel, (similar to this site, but for filipinas sharing info on foreigners). What you tell one, others seem to know in short order.
Do not forget! The entire cr*phouse Ku*try of the Philippines is based on the BIG scam-that's the whole Country's modus operandi. It is VERY difficult to find a Filipina on DIA who does not spread BS in some fashion or degree. They seem incapable of being or looking at the world honestly.



I agree this, it happen to me several times while during the time I spent at CB.

But wisely I found out latest the "girls" don´t wanna show themselves in c2c.

Be careful and watch out the pics with "model-character".

These profiles are most likely just FAKE.

FreebieFan
09-27-10, 00:36
Assuming one wants to use a fake name at the hotel, don't most hotels require foreigners to produce a passport?Its not a legal requirement in Phils, just a common practice. China its a VERY legal practice, but in Phils tell them your passport is in embassy for visa stamping or some BS.

Sprokit69
09-27-10, 05:02
i'm currently visiting for 3 weeks. usually i hang out in manila for a couple if days, shopping at lac now mbc. this time decided to try freebies, hunted on tagged.com. this us a great site, like facebook. got 3 numbers out if 10 tries. and have met all 3. met them in moa and robinsons. 2 went on to clubbing then spent the night, neither asked for anything in return. the 3rd one wanted to go with me to my hotel, but being 18 and looking younger, did not have her id, so i passed, didn't want any **** problems.
i also met 1 of the girls i've chatted with on cams2chat.en she didn't mess around coming straight to my room and spending the night. she wanted only cab fare even though i tried to give more.
now i'm in angeles doing girls the old fashioned way. things there are pretty much normal with the exception of a couple clubs still shutdown.

FreebieFan
09-27-10, 05:30
Best advice I can give (and will do from now on) is to call any girl you want to meet b4 and try to listen for changed voice. Although even that is no guarantee. Yes cam can help too but i dont have time for all that chat stuff.My standard MO. Once bitten twice shy. All prospects get a call now :

1. To check that they sound female

2. To check that we would at least be able to have a conversation. Some of these girls cant string two words together so not much point in meeting and wasting my best lines on them, LOL.

Red Kilt
09-27-10, 06:15
I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?They have your ISP number, so if you were booted off then your ISP is still banned. A new ID will not help.

That's my guess anyway. I often change my ID and never have any problems. Go to an internet cafe and set up a new account from there and then see if it can be used from your regular computer.

X Man
09-27-10, 06:38
Greg London already gave you a very good rundown of the pros and cons. I'll add one thing -- consider purchasing one month of CB just prior to your trip. It's fairly cheap, you get to test it for yourself, and you'll get more contacts than you could possibly meet.


Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile.

Thanks.

Starchild2012
09-27-10, 07:03
Just a word of warning. We all know there are many LB on DIA etc. Most tell it either in their profile or in their first mail. But there are those losers who you have to meet to find out. Goddamn time wasters. Happened to me twice in a week grrrrrr Best advice I can give (and will do from now on) is to call any girl you want to meet b4 and try to listen for changed voice. Although even that is no guarantee. Yes cam can help too but i dont have time for all that chat stuff.

LOL...bro you are not alone...i too had encounters with LB's pretending to be girls...Cam, Mobile phone confirmation are no guarantee....its collateral damage....I don't have the heart to throw them away rudely....i usually buy them beers, give some money and send them in a taxi....and hunt again....i have given up weeding out LB and real girls...of the 100 girls you date may be one would turn out to be a LB...its no biggie...keep on hunting :)

Fast Buck Artist
09-27-10, 07:32
Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile. Thanks.IMHO:

Pay sites:
- Since they charge men for access.. you get a good girl/guy ratio which is in your favor.. ( a big plus )
- The girls tend to be more marriage oriented ( a plus or minus depending what you are looking for )
- Mostly used by older dudes so if you are a senior, you have less youngsters to compete with
- Some have search by location which is really useful

Free sites:
- Large fishing pool (quantity with rare quality)
- Infested with trannies, ladyboys and other fags
- Probably easier to find casual sex (debateable)
- More scammers

My opinion is.. there is a lot more crap on free sites and you'll waste more time separating the wheat from the weeds..

FreebieFan
09-27-10, 09:48
IMHO:

- Mostly used by older dudes so if you are a senior, you have less youngsters to compete with


Free sites:
- Large fishing pool (quantity with rare quality)
- Infested with trannies, ladyboys and other fags
- Probably easier to find casual sex (debateable)
- More scammers

My opinion is.. there is a lot more crap on free sites and you'll waste more time separating the wheat from the weeds..Being "an older dude" but also being a "successful dude " I really don't get caught up with trannies and LB AND have no problem in procuring free casual sex partners from the free sites.

I'm wondering if this is because I generally do my chatting with the ladies whilst I'm at work, generally in the morning.

This may classify me as less of a "player" as we all know that DIA is full at night with some normal butt often strange people trying to play the US market.

Going to Manila next week and will be seeing 2-3 repeats and 2-3 new ones with whom I expect full success and no money will be exchanged, all courtesy of free sites.

Good Luck Toronto.

Hope all going well with you.

Rampana
09-27-10, 15:33
.....consider purchasing one month of CB just prior to your trip. It's fairly cheap, you get to test it for yourself, and you'll get more contacts than you could possibly meet.

no more than 1 month and fairly before you trip.

Do NOT make that mistake I did - a 3 months membership.

The longer you chat with that girls - the more likely they will ask you for money in one or the other way. Also do not chat too long prior your meeting because that girls will tend to cling on you and will become difficult to get rid off....

Fast Buck Artist
09-28-10, 01:36
I'm wondering if this is because I generally do my chatting with the ladies whilst I'm at work, generally in the morning.Good point, I think there is more quality to be found in the morning before the freaks wake up and go out to pasture.


Also do not chat too long prior your meeting because that girls will tend to cling on you and will become difficult to get rid off....I have to disagree. The more time/effort you spend, the more likely she will sleep with you when you actually meet. Women like romance, they are not looking for a quick fuck (if you meet one who is, it's either a ladyboy or a prostitute). Most girls will NOT go to your hotel if all you did for warmup is to say "I am coming to Manila next week whats your phone number?".

Give the girl what she wants (some love) and you'll get what you want (some action)

TurdyCurdyOne
09-28-10, 04:27
Now i use special proxies to connect to DIA, they do not know my IP, but some proxies IP. I have an abundance of cell phone numbers and IPs in case they try that shit again. Like most sites they are being a**holes now that they are popular.


They have your ISP number, so if you were booted off then your ISP is still banned. A new ID will not help.

That's my guess anyway. I often change my ID and never have any problems. Go to an internet cafe and set up a new account from there and then see if it can be used from your regular computer.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-28-10, 04:33
If you cannot tell a LB with cam, then you are new to mongering or nearsighted and need to see an opthamologist. Also, if they've had the complete tranny treatment, they are, for all intents and purposes, except pregnancy, (a benefit!) women.


LOL...bro you are not alone...i too had encounters with LB's pretending to be girls...Cam, Mobile phone confirmation are no guarantee....its collateral damage....I don't have the heart to throw them away rudely....i usually buy them beers, give some money and send them in a taxi....and hunt again....i have given up weeding out LB and real girls...of the 100 girls you date may be one would turn out to be a LB...its no biggie...keep on hunting :)

Toronto
09-28-10, 05:19
Good Luck Toronto.

Hope all going well with you.

Thanks, the tips I got from you when we met my last trip greatly helped.

Wicked Roger
09-28-10, 08:14
Now i use special proxies to connect to DIA, they do not know my IP, but some proxies IP. I have an abundance of cell phone numbers and IPs in case they try that shit again. Like most sites they are being a**holes now that they are popular.
TC

That can work but DIA is getting wise and has few that it can spot so need to use various. Certainly in the UAE some proxies were useless for DIA but great for ISG...bizarre but true :D

Red Kilt
09-28-10, 09:49
Check this out,

A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/online-dating-10-psychological-insights.php

FreebieFan
09-28-10, 10:53
Check this out,

A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/online-dating-10-psychological-insights.phpLove the quote in it that " online daters lie, but only a little".

That just about sums me up. LOL.

Or" Internet dating encourages diversity". I agree. Mine are all between 38 kg and 52kg and all Asian. Very diverse!

Wicked Roger
09-28-10, 11:39
Check this out,

A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/online-dating-10-psychological-insights.php


Well as long as she was cute slim pinay and freshly shaved with a leaning towards naughty/kinky then I would happily play along :D

As for the link well:

1. Some are losers...we know that as we have a few memebrs here who are truly sad and use the dating web sites

2. We do lie a lot ...we are mongers (well we are "economical with the truth" :)). Of course when our profile says we are looking for ST fun no strings we are telling the truth of course, but only a few of us ever admit up front to that

3 and 4. Agree..how many times we find a chubby in person not the cutie in the picture? or worse a LB / tranny. Did it really mean we chat longer if we place an animal in our profile picture... well that may get you banned or a large number of unusual friends!!!


5. Disagree. We are older bald guys some more weight than others and no way will a 18-20 American/UK etc girl chat to you let alone let you deflower her (and ask her if she likes bondage and Greek)!! We are opposites of what we chase and desire unless of course the Brad Pitt pill is that good and we are cute and look young as well

6. Agree - we are diverse and some of us very diverse...like Freebie Fan LOL

7. Cant disagree, as we all say that we should get to the point of our message (ie "we need lots of shagging and no complaints about our sexual habits ...just enjoy the leather and PVC" :D)

8. Would "horny" and "hard on" be considered emotional words LOL

9. Interesting statistic and I wonder what it is for mongers like you and me. Once screened including YM etc and C2C I tend to meet most of them but I do reduce that list to a small number initially

10. Well it is maybe for a relationship but for you, me, Freebie and many others we seem to do OK in "relationships" :)

Given the conclusion we are relatively successful as we find what we want most of the time and we are happy and satisfied

Roll on the conference :)

Rampana
09-28-10, 13:21
[QUOTE
I have to disagree. The more time/effort you spend, the more likely she will sleep with you when you actually meet. Women like romance, they are not looking for a quick fuck (if you meet one who is, it's either a ladyboy or a prostitute). Most girls will NOT go to your hotel if all you did for warmup is to say "I am coming to Manila next week whats your phone number?".

Give the girl what she wants (some love) and you'll get what you want (some action)[/QUOTE]


this is also VERY TRUE, WR.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-28-10, 20:13
quickly and efficiently determines which proxies work with with sites.
piece of cake really. all these aholes who think their sites are impenetrable just get alot of extra traffic each time the play games like DIA sh*thead admins try.
if they give me alot of trouble I will take their site down.


TC

That can work but DIA is getting wise and has few that it can spot so need to use various. Certainly in the UAE some proxies were useless for DIA but great for ISG...bizarre but true :D

Riverman
09-28-10, 20:53
I have found that it is pretty easy to see who is a ladyboy. The first big clue is in their profile stats. Flipinas tend to be 5'-3" or less in height and 110 lbs or less.

If the girl in the pic is super cute and heignt wieght proportional (especially if there is some visual reference that shows she's not so tall), but her profile says she is 5'-6" and 123 lbs, that my friends is a Ladyboy. Maybe some of them are smart enouph to have figured that out and post fake stats, but in my experience, they usually don't.

This has worked so well for me, that if I check out a girl on DIA and her height is 5'-5" or above, or she looks cute and proporational, but her wieght is above 120 lbs, I just automatically pass on her. A Filipino guy and can easily be 5'-3" or 4", but he will be heavier since he is male. Sometimes also they will post a pic of a pretty sister or cuzin, but they will post correct stats, so this method also defeats that ploy.

Sometimes I may be wrong and sometimes Filipinas arent too bright and they post incorrect information (often thier best friend or a cousin or auntie may have made their profile too and just made shit up). But there are so many filipinas for the taking, that if I occasionnally flush the baby out with the bath water, oh well, too bad for her.

The second big clue is facial features. Some of these ladyboys can be quite pretty. But their features won't be so fine. Pretty Filipinas will tend towards more delicate features, unlike white european woman who can be very pretty while still having larger features. Its not always true, but the vast majority of Filipinas will not be big boned beauties.

Since instituting the height/weight rule, I haven't been sandbagged by a single Ladyboy. Hope this helps someone.

Riverman
09-29-10, 03:50
I have found that it is pretty easy to see who is a real girl.

The first big clue is in their profile stats. Filipinas tend to be 5'-3" or less in height and 110 lbs or less. This isn’t always true, of course, but is almost always true. And if she is over 110 lbs, she will look like a chubs in her pic.

If the girl in the pic is super cute and height weight proportional (especially if there is some visual reference that shows she's not so tall), but her profile says she is 5'-6" and 128 lbs, that my friends is a Ladyboy. Maybe some of them are smart enough to have figured that out and post fake stats, but in my experience, they usually dont.

This has worked so well for me, that if i check out a girl on DIA and her height is 5'-5" or above and/or she looks cute and proportional, but her weight is above 120 lbs, i just automatically pass on her. A Filipino guy and can easily be 5'-3" or 4", but he will be heavier since he is male. Sometimes also they will post a pic of a pretty sister or cuzin, but they will post correct stats, so this method also defeats that ploy.

Sometimes I may be wrong and sometimes Filipinas arent too bright and they post incorrect information (often their best friend or a cousin or auntie may have made their profile too and just made shit up). But there are so many Filipinas for the taking, that if i occasionally flush the baby out with the bath water, oh well, too bad for her.

The second big clue is facial features. Some of these fake ladies can be quite pretty. But their features wont be so fine. Pretty Filipinas will tend towards more delicate features, unlike white European woman who can be very pretty while still having larger features. Its not always true, but the vast majority of Filipinas will not be big boned beauties.

A good example of this, is the jaw. If the jawbone is wide or big, but “she” looks pretty and the stats don’t correlate, bingo, u spotted one.

Since instituting the height/weight rule, i haven’t been sandbagged by a single fake lady. Hope this helps someone.

GregLondon
09-29-10, 04:28
quickly and efficiently determines which proxies work with with sites.
piece of cake really. all these aholes who think their sites are impenetrable just get alot of extra traffic each time the play games like DIA sh*thead admins try.
if they give me alot of trouble I will take their site down.

I see. I suspect that taking the DIA site down is not going to make you a popular guy on ISG. Or don't you give a Sh*t about other mongers??

GregLondon
09-29-10, 04:44
I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?

They seem to be able to recognise and blacklist your PC. I don't know whether they collect info or they have put a cookie onto your machine. The net result is that if you get booted off you are likely to have to set a new account and upload a photo up on someone else's PC/laptop. I don't know how they cope with internet cafe Pcs as obviously there will be plenty that get blacklisted. Once your new account is up and running you are able to open it from your old "blacklisted" PC/Laptop

GregLondon
09-29-10, 05:14
i'm currently visiting for 3 weeks. usually i hang out in manila for a couple if days, shopping at lac now mbc. this time decided to try freebies, hunted on tagged.com. this us a great site, like facebook. got 3 numbers out if 10 tries. and have met all 3. met them in moa and robinsons. 2 went on to clubbing then spent the night, neither asked for anything in return. the 3rd one wanted to go with me to my hotel, but being 18 and looking younger, did not have her id, so i passed, didn't want any **** problems.
i also met 1 of the girls i've chatted with on cams2chat.en she didn't mess around coming straight to my room and spending the night. she wanted only cab fare even though i tried to give more.
now i'm in angeles doing girls the old fashioned way. things there are pretty much normal with the exception of a couple clubs still shutdown.

plenty of girls on these dating sites won't "ask for anything in return" the question is whether this is because she is too shy/embarassed to ask or whether she is perfectly happy not to get anything in return. i've known 20 yr old girls who spent the night with some say 50 yr old guy in say the marriott (costing maybe 5000p per night) who were absolutely seething that in the morning he told them to go "because he had a meeting" and in some cases didn't give them a single peso even for the taxi. however when i asked well did you ask for anything they say, no i'm not like that, i just assumed that he is mature enough to understand that i can't do it for free.

now this is the type of guy who is probably regaling his buddies or the folks on forums like this how phil girls are so easy, that he is still attractive enough to pull young girls blah blah.

in some cases these guys are cheap charlies who just want to minimise their expenditure, however i presume that guys willing to pay marriott type rates (though admittedly for some the question is money paid out of his own pocket vs on corporate expense account) either don't know the score here or are on some sort of ego trip.

in some cases guys have actually been quite generous with presents such as shopping at ayala mall or buying flowers etc. what they don't seem to appreciate is that in asia: cash is king.

for a poor girl spending 1000p at a posh restaurant or 2000p buying stuff worth 500p at ayala or 3000p on flowers doesn't pay the bills . they are generally much happier with a crisp 1000p note as "heres something for the taxi ".

i'm not suggesting that every phils girl needs to be paid.

1 some girls are playing the long game of trying to persuade you that they are a good girl to marry.

2 some girls have a well paid job or family or foreign bf support so are not too worried about money.

3 some girls are relatively mature or otherwise not so appealing so are primarily interested in sex for pleasure

4 some girls are out for a good night, get drunk and horny and are looking for a reasonably attractive guy to fuck.

however for the vast majority of poor girls either students or shop girls etc on 5000p a month, the idea of going with a fat balding 50 year old white guy is the hope/expectation that he will help her financially.

because in the less touristed parts of phils, many of these girls will have only met a few guys, they will not have learned that these issues sometimes need to be clarified in advance, in the way that girls with greater concentrations of tourists such as thailand certainly do.

Wicked Roger
09-29-10, 05:47
In some cases these guys are cheap charlies who just want to minimise their expenditure, however I presume that guys willing to pay Marriott type rates (though admittedly for some the question is money paid out of his own pocket vs on corporate expense account) either don't know the score here or are on some sort of ego trip.

In some cases guys have actually been quite generous with presents such as shopping at Ayala mall or buying flowers etc. What they don't seem to appreciate is that in Asia: Cash is King.

However for the vast majority of poor girls either students or shop girls etc on 5000P a month, the idea of going with a fat balding 50 year old white guy is the hope/expectation that he will help her financially.



I tend to concur with a lot GL says, but I with some girls suggest food shopping at Metro in Cebu or SM in Makati for example-some wont buy fresh meat as no refridgerator. That can be more pricey than a crisp note but gives extra brownie points also. Some girls I know cant explain to mom how she got the crisp note...may pinays just cant lie to parents as they to us guys

But as a 50+ balding fat guy, the majority like cash plus a tip if you are not a real cheap charlie such as load for the mobile..again small gesture always very beneficial to everyone in the long run

And the Brad pills work trust me :D Am not 50 etc but just Mr Gwapo :D

Fast Buck Artist
09-29-10, 06:22
I've known 20 yr old girls who spent the night with some say 50 yr old guy in say the Marriott (costing maybe 5000P per night) who were absolutely seething that in the morning he told them to go "because he had a meeting" and in some cases didn't give them a single peso even for the taxi. However When i asked well did you ask for anything they say, no I'm not like that, I just assumed that he is mature enough to understand that i can't do it for free.The common foreign view that women in asia are money grubbing hos is way overdone and originates from men who spend too much time in Angeles City and Pattaya.

I like intelligent women and tend to date girls who have a decent paying job (outsourcing/teaching/managerial) .. they never asked me for a dime and were insulted if I offer.

My age might have something to do with it (am 29) so perhaps they are aiming for the wedding ring with this strategy.

GregLondon
09-29-10, 07:09
The common foreign view that women in asia are money grubbing hos is way overdone and originates from men who spend too much time in Angeles City and Pattaya.

I like intelligent women and tend to date girls who have a decent paying job (outsourcing/teaching/managerial) .. they never asked me for a dime and were insulted if I offer.

My age might have something to do with it (am 29) so perhaps they are aiming for the wedding ring with this strategy.

For sure age is very important. If you are 29 and reasonably good looking there will be many mid 20s girls who will want to date you and are happy enough if you pay for drinks/meal etc. Poorer girls or girls looking to raise funds will be very wary of going with sub 35 year olds for this very reason - because he is probably expecting "free" sex. However there are some overweight /not so good looking 50/60 year olds who are still handsome 30 year olds in their own imaginations. These guys may be attractive prospects to 35s + divorcees etc, but for 20s girls it will almost certainly be some sort of financial / material gain tha they are looking for.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-29-10, 07:45
In my experience, a large majority of DIA ladies are looking for financial support and/or direct payments. Unless the woman has a very good job or other assets they will all be looking for financial help in some form or another. The well-off and professionals are not on DIA that much, and, if they are, they tend to be independent, like western women, with similar attitudes and behavior. They also tend to be too busy to have much time to spend on a man-which, depending on your outlook-can be an advantage. I have not had experience with the other sites as I will not pay put myself in competition with other men for women in a 3rd world country like the Phil.

Also re the Marriott guy not giving anything, apparently this lady is rather naive. I learned, driving cab a long long time ago, that the cheapest bastards are the rich. They will have you drive them up to their Lear Jet, load luggage for 4 people and then give you a 1% "tip" or no tip at all. This is, after all, how many of them go their money, not by being nice guys.

She was naive to expect anything for someone staying at the Marriott and she should have made her requirements known.

Do not deceive yourself. While your young age and looks factor into the equation, most ALL women are looking at your ability to support them, either now or in the future. In addition most all want you to "love" them and be faithful to them. They want your money, your youth and good looks and they want to put you on a leash as well. And they tell us that men are selfish?





The common foreign view that women in asia are money grubbing hos is way overdone and originates from men who spend too much time in Angeles City and Pattaya.

I like intelligent women and tend to date girls who have a decent paying job (outsourcing/teaching/managerial) .. they never asked me for a dime and were insulted if I offer.

My age might have something to do with it (am 29) so perhaps they are aiming for the wedding ring with this strategy.

FreebieFan
09-29-10, 08:31
For sure age is very important. If you are 29 and reasonably good looking there will be many mid 20s girls who will want to date you and are happy enough if you pay for drinks/meal etc. Poorer girls or girls looking to raise funds will be very wary of going with sub 35 year olds for this very reason. Because he is probably expecting "free" sex. However there are some overweight /not so good looking 50/60 year olds who are still handsome 30 year olds in their own imaginations. These guys may be attractive prospects to 35s + divorcees etc, but for 20s girls it will almost certainly be some sort of financial / material gain tha they are looking for.GL, Luckily for us, we all see the world with different eyes.

For instance, my sweet Indonesian friend (who I will have with me on a 5 day business trip next wek), has just turned 22.

When she was a teenager she dated white guys in their 20s, and generally got cheated and used by them.

She decided and realised that a 50 something guy (who in this case has never faced up to the fact he is 50, altho not fat nor bald) is way better for her.

She gets flights paid, which I guess I might pay for is she was my GF anyway. She gets little gifts, which again she might get if she was my full time GF.

Beyond that she doesn't get not has she ever asked for anything. She's a full time student and takes time off her studies to be with me.

So to the comment that they will "almost certainly ", don't assume everyone is the same as you have experienced.

As yes GL I have read and enjoyed all your Cebu reports, so I'm not targeting you, just explaining that its not always what it seems.

In Manila I have a few ladies I see, who are all between 21-28. Some have good jobs, some have no jobs. The ones with good jobs seem to appreciate dinner and a good bonk.

The ones with no jobs seem to appreciate food, drinks, a good bonk, and they may also get a P500 or P1000 taxi money tip.

Both seem to regularly be available to me again, the "almost certainly " doesn't apply.

GregLondon
09-29-10, 08:51
In my experience, a large majority of DIA ladies are looking for financial support and/or direct payments. Unless the woman has a very good job or other assets they will all be looking for financial help in some form or another. The well-off and professionals are not on DIA that much, and, if they are, they tend to be independent, like western women, with similar attitudes and behavior. They also tend to be too busy to have much time to spend on a man-which, depending on your outlook-can be an advantage. I have not had experience with the other sites as I will not pay put myself in competition with other men for women in a 3rd world country like the Phil.

Also re the Marriott guy not giving anything, apparently this lady is rather naive. I learned, driving cab a long long time ago, that the cheapest bastards are the rich. They will have you drive them up to their Lear Jet, load luggage for 4 people and then give you a 1% "tip" or no tip at all. This is, after all, how many of them go their money, not by being nice guys.

She was naive to expect anything for someone staying at the Marriott and she should have made her requirements known.

Do not deceive yourself. While your young age and looks factor into the equation, most ALL women are looking at your ability to support them, either now or in the future. In addition most all want you to "love" them and be faithful to them. They want your money, your youth and good looks and they want to put you on a leash as well. And they tell us that men are selfish?

I agree with this. The thing to remember is that for the majority of young Phil girls being on DIA / CB /FH etc is a significant INVESTMENT of time and money.

Most of the guys are using unmetered broadband at home and work and find chatting with the girls and trying to see "how far they will go" a mildly amusing way of killing time. For the girls they will be spending maybe an hour a day on line costing them say 20P - that may not sound much but if your daily income is 200P it represents an investment of 10% of your income.

If you are a cute sexy girl you aren't going to do this just on the off chance you will get a "handsome young man" willing to fuck you for the night, because guess what all you have to do if you want that is wear a short skirt and go to a nightclub and there will be a queue of young hopefuls more than willing to do that.

So in the majority of cases, the motivation is (1) the dream/hope to get a foreigner to marry her and settle down and/or (2) to earn some extra income.

That does not mean that handsome young guys wanting free short term sex will have no luck on DIA, they may well do as many Phil girls are quite excited to meet young foreign guys, especially if they leave it unclear that they are (1) not looking for a long term partner and (2) have no intention of paying anything. and also if they are prepared to make some effort such as buying drinks/meal, not expecting immediate sex ,going on second dates etc. What it does mean is that that was not really what the girl joined up to DIA for.

Fast Buck Artist
09-29-10, 12:44
i agree with this. the thing to remember is that for the majority of young phil girls being on dia / cb /fh etc is a significant investment of time and money.

most of the guys are using unmetered broadband at home and work and find chatting with the girls and trying to see "how far they will go" a mildly amusing way of killing time. for the girls they will be spending maybe an hour a day on line costing them say 20p - that may not sound much but if your daily income is 200p it represents an investment of 10% of your income.

well greg i am in a filipino netcafe right now and the place is packed with:
- schoolboys playing warcraft and counterstrike
- girls playing farmville on facebook
- some characters who just came here for the aircon

i see no "investment" activity of any kind around me :)

but you make good comments guys.. you got me thinking perhaps we just get contacted by different types of women because of our age differences?

here is what i usually encounter on online dating sites:

1. (majority) 24-33 year old women looking for a husband, and having a hard time finding an eligible bachelor among the penniless, jobless and irresponsible men surrounding them. most filipino men of skill and value seem to be employed in dubai or qatar and what is left back home is rather low on quality. some have a kid or two left over as a present from said men..

2. (way too many) fags and transvestites looking for a fuck buddy, scammers and posers fishing for a western union sucker, and other types of online pests.

3. (a large number of) curious 17-20 year old students connecting from school computer lab, nearby 20peso/hr netcafe or auntie's 1000 peso per month dsl line.. many are virgins, have no idea what they are doing and have the mental maturity of a western 13 year old.. they are kids to me, i met a few in real life and the experience felt like a toxic mixture of babysitting and ****philia

4. (a small number of) call center slaves taking a break between giving useless advice to an irate at&t customer and useless apologies to an irate chase bank customer, to kill some time chatting online from the office computer...

5. (a small number of) province farm girls who came to the city to study, live in a college dormitory and dont have 2 pesos to rub together. this is the only group who ever asked me for any financial help in exchange for "girlfriend services". as a percentage of online dating population, they are a rare critter, you need a bit of money to go online and they dont have it.

Red Kilt
09-29-10, 13:04
...............................
But as a 50+ balding fat guy, the majority like cash plus a tip if you are not a real cheap charlie such as load for the mobile..again small gesture always very beneficial to everyone in the long run

And the Brad pills work trust me :D Am not 50 etc but just Mr Gwapo :D

You're too modest WR. You are trying to fool the guys here into thinking you are NOT a tall, sexy, dashing foreigner oozing sex appeal. We all know how those Brad Pitt pills work like a charm.

GLs 3 recent posts are excellent summaries and explain the situation clearly. Rather coincidentally, I met a girl today just to say hello (no hanky panky.... yet) and she didn't want lunch or coffee; she wanted me to give her the cash for whatever that was gonna cost as she was too shy to just ask for cash straigh tup to get home.
I helped her.
She is a work-in-progress.

Sammon
09-29-10, 14:34
If you are looking for young 18-25 year old girls this is the best place. It is free for all to join and that is why loads of Phi girls are there. Most of the girls do not care how old you are as long as they see you as a sponsor for School, family etc. It is even OK for them if you visit once or twice to Phi to see her as long as money keeps coming.
For us mongers it is a nice diversion to meet normal girls. It is good to play with them and see where it goes if you can afford little money they ask for. Besides I know we all waste money in the bars and bargirls. Why not get one or many regular girlfriends on the side with the same amount of money.
Why complain about giving these girls money?
From My experience unlike in the western world these girls are not looking to get wined and dined in expensive restaurents( In fact they hate the food) and expecting expensive gifts. Once I gave a girl mere 500 pesos and told her to go shopping in Manila. She went to Baclaran roadside shops and bought lots of clothes for 300 pesos and tried to give me back 200 pesos. Her face really lit up. The most expensive things they ask for is a cell phone.
We spend thousands of dollars to to Phi to have a good time. what is so wrong with giving these girls few hundred dollars.
If you tried this cheapo stuff with your hometown GF she will dump you in a heart beat.
Do not e cheap. Help these girls and I will tell you they return the favor ten fold. Yes, there are scams you have to watch out for like asking for money without meeting, extra demands of money online etc. But if you handle it right you will be wiser. So what if you loose some money in these scams , think of it as a donation for trying. It is part of the risk you take. I assure you even if you get scammed it will not amount to a large sum which you cannot afford. Yes, I have sent $100 to a girl for the air-ticket for her to meet me. She scammed me. I wrote it off as donation. But of all the girls I have dated from DIA so far this is the only one. I have sent money to many other girls and they always showed up.
Most of these girls do not drink, not into barhopping, quite happy with cheap food, not worried about cheap hotels you are staying etc.
If you tally your expenses being with a regular girl and being with a bargirl you will definitely realise it is cheaper with a regular girl even if you give her money.
In fact these girls know very well we mongers are the scammers promising the world to them and running off to try another girl. They know very few stable long lasting relationship results from these long distance relationship.
My advice is help these girls to clear your conscience and do not worry if they lie to you, see other guys or whatever.
If somebody is clearly looking for a stable , long term relationship it is necessary for them to filter out the scammers vs the real darlings.

X Man
09-29-10, 16:36
Reading Sammon and then GregLondon a few posts earlier, I admit I feel torn. I hope everyone is feeling torn with me.

The two posts seem entirely contradictory, yet I agree with most of each post, and disagree with both too.

Maybe I am entirely bat, fkn stupid and crazy. Or drunk. Or (I'll leave this space open for my fan club. Boopaloopy where are u?).

I really think we all spend too much time trying to evaluate the Pilipinos, but not necessarily evaluating the evaluators. After all, we are mostly anonymous here.

As for GE and WR, I've met them and they are top notch people who certainly look like Brad Pitt. In the eyes of their Filipina fans.

And me thinks me is incoherently babbling a bit. So will sign out now.


If you are looking for young 18-25 year old girls this is the best place. It is free for all to join and that is why loads of Phi girls are there. Most of the girls do not care how old you are as long as they see you as a sponsor for School, family etc. It is even OK for them if you visit once or twice to Phi to see her as long as money keeps coming.
For us mongers it is a nice diversion to meet normal girls. It is good to play with them and see where it goes if you can afford little money they ask for. Besides I know we all waste money in the bars and bargirls. Why not get one or many regular girlfriends on the side with the same amount of money.
Why complain about giving these girls money?
From My experience unlike in the western world these girls are not looking to get wined and dined in expensive restaurents( In fact they hate the food) and expecting expensive gifts. Once I gave a girl mere 500 pesos and told her to go shopping in Manila. She went to Baclaran roadside shops and bought lots of clothes for 300 pesos and tried to give me back 200 pesos. Her face really lit up. The most expensive things they ask for is a cell phone.
We spend thousands of dollars to to Phi to have a good time. what is so wrong with giving these girls few hundred dollars.
If you tried this cheapo stuff with your hometown GF she will dump you in a heart beat.
Do not e cheap. Help these girls and I will tell you they return the favor ten fold. Yes, there are scams you have to watch out for like asking for money without meeting, extra demands of money online etc. But if you handle it right you will be wiser. So what if you loose some money in these scams , think of it as a donation for trying. It is part of the risk you take. I assure you even if you get scammed it will not amount to a large sum which you cannot afford. Yes, I have sent $100 to a girl for the air-ticket for her to meet me. She scammed me. I wrote it off as donation. But of all the girls I have dated from DIA so far this is the only one. I have sent money to many other girls and they always showed up.
Most of these girls do not drink, not into barhopping, quite happy with cheap food, not worried about cheap hotels you are staying etc.
If you tally your expenses being with a regular girl and being with a bargirl you will definitely realise it is cheaper with a regular girl even if you give her money.
In fact these girls know very well we mongers are the scammers promising the world to them and running off to try another girl. They know very few stable long lasting relationship results from these long distance relationship.
My advice is help these girls to clear your conscience and do not worry if they lie to you, see other guys or whatever.
If somebody is clearly looking for a stable , long term relationship it is necessary for them to filter out the scammers vs the real darlings.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-29-10, 20:33
Agree with all you have said. I might add that this is just one more indication of how bad life is in the Philippines. In spite of their frequent less than honest behavior, my heart goes out to these poor women. This should also be an alert to those thinking about retiring in the Phil. Be sure you have a good stable income because it's NOT that cheap over there as many claim. Yet the crooks running the gov. over there keep raising visa fees that are already higher than most other countries. Life in the larger cities there can be expensive compared to places like Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia and even Thailand.


I agree with this. The thing to remember is that for the majority of young Phil girls being on DIA / CB /FH etc is a significant INVESTMENT of time and money.

Most of the guys are using unmetered broadband at home and work and find chatting with the girls and trying to see "how far they will go" a mildly amusing way of killing time. For the girls they will be spending maybe an hour a day on line costing them say 20P - that may not sound much but if your daily income is 200P it represents an investment of 10% of your income.

If you are a cute sexy girl you aren't going to do this just on the off chance you will get a "handsome young man" willing to fuck you for the night, because guess what all you have to do if you want that is wear a short skirt and go to a nightclub and there will be a queue of young hopefuls more than willing to do that.

So in the majority of cases, the motivation is (1) the dream/hope to get a foreigner to marry her and settle down and/or (2) to earn some extra income.

That does not mean that handsome young guys wanting free short term sex will have no luck on DIA, they may well do as many Phil girls are quite excited to meet young foreign guys, especially if they leave it unclear that they are (1) not looking for a long term partner and (2) have no intention of paying anything. and also if they are prepared to make some effort such as buying drinks/meal, not expecting immediate sex ,going on second dates etc. What it does mean is that that was not really what the girl joined up to DIA for.

TurdyCurdyOne
09-29-10, 20:44
good analysis by fast buck artist. actually, the ones that are making the big investment are not the majority. but i have several i have chatted with for a few years in some cases that are spending a good deal of money on chat cafe fees. the funny thing is that they all claim abject poverty, but as the veil is gradually lifted you find they have various sources of income, including foreigners who send them money, and they are not so poor as they originally made out to be.

if a woman claims she is dirt poor and is spending 5 hours a day in a net cafe, there is something wrong with that equation.

i have met a few that fall into your category of farm girls who came to the city, but they generally do not last (as you implied). the fags, lb, trannies etc. i spot quickly and i used to put in my profile, do not msg me for them.
and, again, you are correct that many of the younger filipinas come across as having a mental age several years younger than their actual age. but not all. also the smarter they are, the more demanding they are is my experience.


well greg i am in a filipino netcafe right now and the place is packed with:
- schoolboys playing warcraft and counterstrike
- girls playing farmville on facebook
- some characters who just came here for the aircon

i see no "investment" activity of any kind around me :)

but you make good comments guys.. you got me thinking perhaps we just get contacted by different types of women because of our age differences?

here is what i usually encounter on online dating sites:

1. (majority) 24-33 year old women looking for a husband, and having a hard time finding an eligible bachelor among the penniless, jobless and irresponsible men surrounding them. most filipino men of skill and value seem to be employed in dubai or qatar and what is left back home is rather low on quality. some have a kid or two left over as a present from said men..

2. (way too many) fags and transvestites looking for a fuck buddy, scammers and posers fishing for a western union sucker, and other types of online pests.

3. (a large number of) curious 17-20 year old students connecting from school computer lab, nearby 20peso/hr netcafe or auntie's 1000 peso per month dsl line.. many are virgins, have no idea what they are doing and have the mental maturity of a western 13 year old.. they are kids to me, i met a few in real life and the experience felt like a toxic mixture of babysitting and ****philia

4. (a small number of) call center slaves taking a break between giving useless advice to an irate at&t customer and useless apologies to an irate chase bank customer, to kill some time chatting online from the office computer...

5. (a small number of) province farm girls who came to the city to study, live in a college dormitory and dont have 2 pesos to rub together. this is the only group who ever asked me for any financial help in exchange for "girlfriend services". as a percentage of online dating population, they are a rare critter, you need a bit of money to go online and they dont have it.

FreebieFan
09-30-10, 00:49
clearly. ; she wanted me to give her the cash for whatever that was gonna cost as she was too shy to just ask for cash straigh tup to get home.
I helped her.

She is a work-in-progress.Isnt it funny how quickly they fall into one of a few categories

Category 1. I would LIKE to progress with her.
Category 2. I have met her so shes now a work in progress.
Category 3. I have bonked her so now I've made progress. Now I must decide if shes
Category 3a ) Never to have any progress or congress with her.
Category 3b ) Damn that was fun. Can we meet again !

Wicked Roger
09-30-10, 04:43
Isnt it funny how quickly they fall into one of a few categories

Category 1. I would LIKE to progress with her.
Category 2. I have met her so shes now a work in progress.
Category 3. I have bonked her so now I've made progress. Now I must decide if shes
Category 3a ) Never to have any progress or congress with her.
Category 3b ) Damn that was fun. Can we meet again !Well my categories based on your excellent summary are:

Category 1. Slim, sexy, under 20, hope she is shaved and naughty :D
Category 2. She is slim etc so now I want her, so how do I get her into my room? ;)
Category 3. Great in bed but...
Category 3a ) is she kinky/naughty enough and wants a Greek education, try a threesome etc.... so see again.
Category 3b ) not keen on the kinky (ie for me 'normal') etc, is clear she is a one woman man (and not a 2-4 man woman at same time) :( ...so not see her again
Category 4 (you forget this Evil Twin): chubby...never see (well some do but not my flavour)

FF...are you sure that was you who I met in Manila? " a 50 something guy (who in this case has never faced up to the fact he is 50, altho not fat nor bald)"......great impersonation FF :D ........and we are as young as the girl 9or peach RK) that we feel at the time LOL

Wicked Roger
09-30-10, 04:51
Maybe I am entirely bat, fkn stupid and crazy. Or drunk. Or (I'll leave this space open for my fan club. Boopaloopy where are u?).

I really think we all spend too much time trying to evaluate the Pilipinos, but not necessarily evaluating the evaluators. After all, we are mostly anonymous here.

As for GE and WR, I've met them and they are top notch people who certainly look like Brad Pitt. In the eyes of their Filipina fans.

And me thinks me is incoherently babbling a bit. So will sign out now.XMan,

Am sure a few other fans will reply to your question although I did not see anything in you to suggest what Bopalula and others have noted despite never having met you. I have met you and know you to be a conservative Chiristian helping young bar girls and schoolies with their education. Just like me

As I keep saying life is full of different flavours/colours and we all have a variety of tastes. In my case quite a few variations on the same theme (ie pinay, slim, shaved, under 20 hopefully, with naughty/kinky intentions). Trying to understand the pinays can drive you crazy so just go with the flow and enjoy it.

Last night my Cebu favourite asked a question about me and said while I thought that the question was personal (in my culture) it was 'pinoy business' to ask. Ie gossip. Many have nothing to do so love to gossip especially if a pinay is seen with a white guy

And if you tried to evaluate the evaluators. That would make you certifiably mad and loony before you reached a conclusion. Apart from Bop who is clearly easy to read and categorise.

X Man
09-30-10, 08:42
Oh, bless her heart.

"hi X thanks for your message will im ok now im with my family.i hope we could mate one day"

Red Kilt
09-30-10, 12:37
Isnt it funny how quickly they fall into one of a few categories

Category 1. I would LIKE to progress with her.
Category 2. I have met her so shes now a work in progress.
Category 3. I have bonked her so now I've made progress. Now I must decide if shes
Category 3a ) Never to have any progress or congress with her.
Category 3b ) Damn that was fun. Can we meet again !

Excellent analysis FF.

I met a classic DIA today.
Slim and nicely constructed WR - definitely your type.

We had lunch and I decided she was Category 1 and 2 but would still need some work.

We decided to see a movie. Five minutes in and she had her hand on my (rapidly hardening) member and 5 mins further on she whispered that it's better if we go somewhere more private. So much for being shy.
We went to a SOGO.
In the room she reverted to shyness until the gear came off and then woohoo - it was no holds barred. I used up the full 3 hours s/t in the hotel.
Result?
I cycled through all of FF's categories, including 3(b) and not 3(a).

It showed me that you can never predict what is going to happen with these girls

FreebieFan
10-01-10, 01:50
Well my categories based on your excellent summary are:

Category 1. Slim, sexy, under 20, hope she is shaved and naughty :D
Category 2. She is slim etc so now I want her, so how do I get her into my room? ;)
Category 3. Great in bed but...
Category 3a ) is she kinky/naughty enough and wants a Greek education, try a threesome etc.... so see again.
Category 3b ) not keen on the kinky (ie for me 'normal') etc, is clear she is a one woman man (and not a 2-4 man woman at same time) :( ...so not see her again
Category 4 (you forget this Evil Twin): chubby...never see (well some do but not my flavour)

FF...are you sure that was you who I met in Manila? " a 50 something guy (who in this case has never faced up to the fact he is 50, altho not fat nor bald)"......great impersonation FF :D ........and we are as young as the girl 9or peach RK) that we feel at the time LOLIn Manila as we speak. Just dropped off lasts night entertainment. 37kg, and 4ft 11. Engaged but clearly I add to her sense of fun.
Off to meet the 10.00am appt, in Eurotel. Then work.

Then the 22 year old will be visiting me.

Have a choice of 4 for Saturday but only sufficient time to do 2. All have stated they wil be happy to wear the cheap tacky bikinis I got for them.

Ah.. another Manila trip does wonders for a man.

And today I think, similiar to Benjamin Button Im now in my 20's.

Maybe it was last nights hottie saying " oh Freebie you are so much more energetic than my BF ( who is mid 30s !) lol.... Oldies ROCK!

FurryFriend
10-01-10, 10:12
Why complain about giving these girls money?


Because you are not doing the girl a favor in the long run.

Every time you send money, these girls develop an expectation of easy cash. Why should she bust her ass getting a second job or pursuing a degree when she can just "work" the internet cafes trolling dopes for money?

And every time she succeeds, she tells 10 friends. Each then tell 10 more. Pretty soon, you have an entire country of girls expecting to make money the easy way.

What happens when nobody wires anymore because she's no longer cute and young? Your money discouraged her from preparing for a future. So ultimately, your money harmed her.

This is one reason why the Philippines is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor. The entire country is one big welfare basket case because it's filled with lazy incompetant people out for the short term.



From My experience unlike in the western world these girls are not looking to get wined and dined in expensive restaurents( In fact they hate the food)

With respect, this is an overly cynical view of Western women.

Most Western women can afford to wine and dine themselves. Let's cut the bullshit. Most women in America (where I live) are not gold diggers at the Filipina level. For proof, go to any university. Most guys in college have girlfriends, and probably get laid the most, even if they cannot afford to wine and dine their dates.

Besides, there are plenty of well-to-do guys who are single and frustrated. I'm Asian. The Asian male demographic earns far more than the national average, but gets laid and dates far less than your average black or hispanic guy. So clearly, money does not automatically equate to sex and love in America.

In the U.S., if a women shows affection, it's probably because she likes me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet. I don't find that gratifying one bit.



We spend thousands of dollars to to Phi to have a good time. what is so wrong with giving these girls few hundred dollars.


There's a big difference between wasting money on bars and wasting it sending to some girl.

At the bars, I have fun with the money I waste. I'm actually there, drinking, having sex and enjoying her company.

If I wire money to a girl, I don't partake in the fun. It gets sent and that's it. In fact, she likely takes the money and has fun with someone else.

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Ultimately, it's a personal choice to donate money.

People who wire money to the Philippines should fully understand and accept the fact that 1) they're buying a girl's attention and 2) they're providing down payment for future sex. If those are your expectations, hey, by all means send the money.

But I have a feeling most guys who give are hoping to start a relationship. For these types of guys, they are a fool to part with even a penny.

FreebieFan
10-01-10, 15:21
Excellent analysis FF.

I cycled through all of FF's categories, including 3(b) and not 3(a).

It showed me that you can never predict what is going to happen with these girlsAs you liked my text about the 22 year old thought I would share it here (FYI, the same said 22 year old gal is currently asleep having been licked dicked and generally been highly entertaining for past few hours.

One vodka and sprite made her highly energetic for an hour, then. Out of steam

Anyways earlier today, send the same sweet lady an sms, telling her I was in town and would love to see her at 6pm at our usual meeting place.

Her Mom replied stating " Dear Freebie this is the Mum of Sweet 22 year old.

She is currently in school but I will pass on the message and tell her to be sure to meet you at said time and said place. ".

The only thing missing is getting her father to drive her to me LOL.

Ok. Lifes good! Wnjoy your weekend fellow mongers!

Sammon
10-01-10, 17:07
Hey Furry,
We are not fucking up Philippine economy. It is already fucked beyond repair.
There no jobs available. Even the mall jobs are on contract only , no job security. Because of this we mongers can find youn g willing girls. If the economy is good you think you will get any normal girls?
We are not talking here about young college type mongers. They can get girls for free anywhere.
But for older mongers where else you can find young normal girls for fun? In return for their favors you give them money or support them. Do not expect it should be free. Irrespective of if there are demands for money help them. Some maybe too shy to ask but will appreciate help.
If you want to spend money in a bar or bargirls stick with it. Why entice any other girls?
If you are going to date willing girls give them money and gifts. Do not just use them for free and leave. They are not doing this service to you because they are horny. They are hoping and praying for a better life. I have helped some girls through education and I am happy I did that.

Questor55
10-01-10, 18:48
[QUOTE=Sammon,

We are not fucking up Philippine economy. It is already fucked beyond repair.
There no jobs available. Even the mall jobs are on contract only , no job security. Because of this we mongers can find young willing girls. If the economy is good you think you will get any normal girls?

They are not doing this service to you because they are horny. They are hoping and praying for a better life. I have helped some girls through education and I am happy I did that.[/QUOTE]Visiting these girls at home can be a real eye-opener. Most of them, like the majority, are POOR, as in almost below the radar by western standards.

For most, the few pesos needed for a jeepney ride and the internet cafe is a significant outlay. It's a bit like buying a lottery ticket with little chance of the big prize, but allows for big dreams.

The dating sites that give us access to millions of these ladies continue to
function because, like the lotteries, they do give hope of the POSSIBILITY
of achieving a better life. So, one girl in a hundred gets money sent to her, or actually gets to meet a foreigner. She tells ten friends, who tell ten more and so it goes.

So, when I give them money in appreciation, and/or for their education,
yes, I am helping both the local economy AND my fellow mongers by encouraging an ongoing supply of these delightful sweeties.

TurdyCurdyOne
10-01-10, 20:38
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Because you are not doing the girl a favor in the long run.

*It's hard work and costs them money to work the cafes. You think they would be doing that if they had other good alternatives?


Every time you send money, these girls develop an expectation of easy cash. Why should she bust her ass getting a second job or pursuing a degree when she can just "work" the internet cafes trolling dopes for money?

*Wrong. They are not that stupid. They know what's available and adjust their behavior accordingly.

And every time she succeeds, she tells 10 friends. Each then tell 10 more. Pretty soon, you have an entire country of girls expecting to make money the easy way.

What happens when nobody wires anymore because she's no longer cute and young? Your money discouraged her from preparing for a future. So ultimately, your money harmed her.

*I have a filipina friend there in her 50's who just got a job as a cook. There are opportunities in the Phil. for those that are smart and work hard. His money is not doing anything excepting helping a filipina in an bad country. Alot depends on the amount he sends. Sure, if you fully support a women she will get spoiled. So send them some gifts on their birthday or other holidays. You don't have to overdo it.

This is one reason why the Philippines is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor. The entire country is one big welfare basket case because it's filled with lazy incompetant people out for the short term.

*It's that way because of all the corruption in the government. They have no competent leadership, corruption is ingrained in their culture. They need to elect strong, honest leaders. Perhaps they need a dictatorship along the lines of Marcos, but in the opposite direction of leading the way to an honest government that supports it's citizens.

With respect, this is an overly cynical view of Western women.

*not entirely

Most Western women can afford to wine and dine themselves. Let's cut the bullshit. Most women in America (where I live) are not gold diggers at the Filipina level. For proof, go to any university. Most guys in college have girlfriends, and probably get laid the most, even if they cannot afford to wine and dine their dates.

*western women are vacuous dummies in the main. The guys getting laid at college are with women who are counting on their future success in professions whilst simultaneously getting good sex from young handsome guys in the meantime. Ever see a college girl dating a janitor?, a garbage collector? a 7-11 clerk? Hell no. Most American women won't even talk to you if you don't own a car, regardless of whether or not that is by your choice and you can afford a car. They are souless, amoral c*nts in the main, with few exceptions.

Besides, there are plenty of well-to-do guys who are single and frustrated. I'm Asian. The Asian male demographic earns far more than the national average, but gets laid and dates far less than your average black or hispanic guy. So clearly, money does not automatically equate to sex and love in America.

*haha, why would you expect the USA to be any different than the xenophobic racist culture of Japan, for one example. Pot calling kettle black.
Asians are among the most racist cultures on the planet. And you come to the USA expecting to be treated equally. Then there's the issue of all your very tiny dicks. I am sure that factors in also, as well as your short stature.
Women don't want to date men shorter than they are, especially American women.

In the U.S., if a women shows affection, it's probably because she likes me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet. I don't find that gratifying one bit.

*Women in the USA are no different from women in other countries. Take your average Filipina and put her into the USA for a year and she will be exactly like all the American K*nts here-selfish, demanding, materialistic and disloyal. I know, I have met plenty of Filipinas at the local Air Base bars here who were stepping out on their American husbands for a night or two of fun with some other man. American k*nts are with you for what the equation offers: looks, money, potential, sexual abilities, etc.


There's a big difference between wasting money on bars and wasting it sending to some girl.

At the bars, I have fun with the money I waste. I'm actually there, drinking, having sex and enjoying her company.

* In the bars you're paying some pimp a premium to drink overpriced liquor and buy expensive tea for the *****s he cheats, in the same fashion he is cheating you. You call this fun? Ha! People that go to these clubs, especially the overpriced clip joints are stoopid, imo. Cut out the middle man and your leverage improves considerably. No poor performers, less money to the monger and more control. Hooker bars are for dummies.

If I wire money to a girl, I don't partake in the fun. It gets sent and that's it. In fact, she likely takes the money and has fun with someone else.

*I sometimes send small amounts go my good friends there. This is because they are POOR and I want to help them. I don't expect anything in return and they have usually given me hours of their paid time at cafes, teaching me about the Phil. and keeping me company. They are friends, same as I would help a friend here in the USA.

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Ultimately, it's a personal choice to donate money.

People who wire money to the Philippines should fully understand and accept the fact that 1) they're buying a girl's attention and 2) they're providing down payment for future sex. If those are your expectations, hey, by all means send the money.

*how about helping a friend?

But I have a feeling most guys who give are hoping to start a relationship. For these types of guys, they are a fool to part with even a penny.

*I already have a relationship with the few ladies I send small somes to occasionally. I am doing nothing except giving them small gifts because I like them and consider them friends. I don't expect anything in return, but they are grateful to me as the small amounts I have sent mean alot to them and are insignificant to me.

Gangles
10-02-10, 18:24
I think that there has been a lot of uninformed drivel being bandied here about women getting work in the Philipines.

My observation is that, like most countries, finding work is mostly a matter of attitude. I know filipinas who have very little education, not much going for them. Yet they are never out of work.

I know educated filipinas who are never out of work, earning maybe 50,000 or 60,000 per month.

When I walk around the malls, and through the department stores, I watch the women there. How many of them are busy? Basically they are happy to stand around and waste time, and the customer's money, doing not much. Then their contract expires, and they are out of work again. Well, if I was their boss I would do the same. Only renew the contracs of the women who show the right attitude toward their work, who are doing their best to maximise profit for their employer. Who want to work hard.

When I was employing a number of women, I worked them hard, 12 hour days or more. They were damned good, real performers. Right attitude. And I paid them well. They were happy, I was happy. And when my project came to an end, I wrote excellent references, and helped where I could for them to get into other good jobs.

G

Frequent Flier
10-02-10, 20:30
I think that there has been a lot of uninformed drivel being bandied here about women getting work in the Philipines.

My observation is that, like most countries, finding work is mostly a matter of attitude. I know filipinas who have very little education, not much going for them. Yet they are never out of work.

I know educated filipinas who are never out of work, earning maybe 50,000 or 60,000 per month.

When I walk around the malls, and through the department stores, I watch the women there. How many of them are busy? Basically they are happy to stand around and waste time, and the customer's money, doing not much. Then their contract expires, and they are out of work again. Well, if I was their boss I would do the same. Only renew the contracs of the women who show the right attitude toward their work, who are doing their best to maximise profit for their employer. Who want to work hard.

When I was employing a number of women, I worked them hard, 12 hour days or more. They were damned good, real performers. Right attitude. And I paid them well. They were happy, I was happy. And when my project came to an end, I wrote excellent references, and helped where I could for them to get into other good jobs.

G
I haven't been on the board for awhile. Haven't been to the Philippines for awhile either, but some things never change. Hope to get back this year during Christmas vacation.

It is my understanding that, believe it or not, the Philippine government voted into law many many years ago provisions for workers that mandated that the employer provide all sorts of benefits for full time workers. medical, minimum wage, raises and/or other items. The way around having to provide these benefits to a full time worker is to have them as contract workers and ti have as many contract workers as possible. This is done in the USA as well, but not to the level to be considered as corrupt as it is in the Philippines. In the USA there are other laws that keep you from just hiring and firing workers to keep form paying benefits offered to all other full time employees. Of course the Philippine employment law did not go this far in protection of workers. That said, I'm not sure many of the businesses there could survive if they had to provide all the mandated benefits of full time workers for all employees or even more than just a few workers. That is why the 6 month contract. After 6 months off they can hire them again for 6 more months.

Miss the Philippines though, but not too much as I married a Filipina I met here in the USA. She is not a gold digger and has not become the typical American soulless, self serving, man hating *****. Not yet at least.

Lostwodpun
10-02-10, 21:50
sweethoneygracecabello on DIA has some great pic to share. Dont really think the person behind the keyboard is the same as the pix tho. Nice non the less.

Red Kilt
10-03-10, 07:11
I think that there has been a lot of uninformed drivel being bandied here about women getting work in the Philipines..........................
,,,,,,,, When I was employing a number of women............they were damned good, real performers. Right attitude. And I paid them well. They were happy, I was happy. And when my project came to an end, I wrote excellent references, and helped where I could for them to get into other good jobs.

G

I absolutely agree with you Gangles.

Same experience for me too. Both for filipino men and women. They gave me 110% and never hesitated to stay in the office for longer hours to finish jobs to meet deadlines.
There are some fantastic workers here. Some of the IT people are as good as you will find anywhere in the world. An Aussie friend of mine who came to Manila to run 2 weeks of training for call-center technical people went home after a week because he found that there was nothing that he could teach them. True story.

Fast Buck Artist
10-03-10, 08:26
It is my understanding that, believe it or not, the Philippine government voted into law many many years ago provisions for workers that mandated that the employer provide all sorts of benefits for full time workers. medical, minimum wage, raises and/or other items. The way around having to provide these benefits to a full time worker is to have them as contract workers and ti have as many contract workers as possible.This is the trend worldwide, in all countries... as the governments pass moronic new regulations, it raises the cost of hiring people for businesses, so they avoid the burdens by hiring temps, contractors, freelancers, etc.. the only people hiring full timers with full benefits these days are gubmint agencies.

TurdyCurdyOne
10-03-10, 09:12
Having made what I Ass_ume are several Filipina friends on chat, I have been warned by them NOT to visit their rivals and never to let them into my hotel room.

Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.
Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.

SInce I have been told this by several Filipinas, and in view of the jealousy attacks I have seen when I chat with two at once, I am taking it seriously. Not sure what measures to take to defend against this type of blackmail. Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.

Or maybe I must simply stick to p4p players and never let the others, my friends, into my room. The philosophy of telling all you are just there for fun and never staying with one woman more than once or twice is beginning to make good sense to me.

Am I being overly paranoid about all of this? I would have said yes before I had more than one Filipina warn me about the measure they and their family will take to insure my marrying their daughter, even if I have not even actually slept with her. Also, knowing the corrupt nature of the police and judiciary there, we all know that the truth factors very little into the types of decisions that are made with respect to foreigners.

What say ye all?

Jambo
10-03-10, 12:21
I had more than one Filipina warn me about the measure they and their family will take to insure my marrying their daughterI think that's very very unusual talk. Its hard to believe.

To me they ask things like:
"Have you been to PI before?"
I say "Yes many times"
"do you have a GF now?"
"I have no one special, maybe when I am there"

Some say they want to wait until they are married. Hmm but I haven't heard that in a long time.

Yes maybe you should stick to the bar girls...?

Tenchi
10-03-10, 12:42
Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.
Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.

SInce I have been told this by several Filipinas, and in view of the jealousy attacks I have seen when I chat with two at once, I am taking it seriously. Not sure what measures to take to defend against this type of blackmail. Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.

Or maybe I must simply stick to p4p players and never let the others, my friends, into my room. The philosophy of telling all you are just there for fun and never staying with one woman more than once or twice is beginning to make good sense to me.

Am I being overly paranoid about all of this? I would have said yes before I had more than one Filipina warn me about the measure they and their family will take to insure my marrying their daughter, even if I have not even actually slept with her. Also, knowing the corrupt nature of the police and judiciary there, we all know that the truth factors very little into the types of decisions that are made with respect to foreigners.

What say ye all?


Contracts will mean nothing over there, especially for the foreign party.

You don't have to tell filipina A about filipina B, they'll never know unless you're careless with your cellphone or laptop around her. When I am chatting to two, and she's saying 'you busy?' implying who's the other girl, I just say I went to toilet or internets slow, a random 'is yahoo msg crashing on you?' comment adds to the believability

Don't give the impression you're the 'one-girl guy' from the start, and if you do but she still gets jealous and there are signs there might something sinister afoot, I would leave, seriously. Mind you, this has never happened to me, I usually end it before she gets ideas of meeting the parents and morning school runs... and with filipinas this starts 1 month into relationships I would say :o

The best defence in the situation you fear is to up sticks and leave. Trust me, you have no offence against dodgy police...

TurdyCurdyOne
10-03-10, 21:04
It's too late to start lying to them about each other. I have been honest with all of them; they all know which cities I have other interests in. I have not however given them my full name in most cases., yet.

I cannot believe that a well written contract will not hold some weight in the courts there, but I could be mistaken, depending on if the family has connections and/or bribes the judge.

Maybe if I stay in a hotel and never let these friends into my room, that would help. But then, of course, I cannot sleep with any of them. Which is not all bad as these ladies are mostly friends at this point, not neccesarily women I am hot to trot with.

I will try to make it VERY clear that I have no intention of marrying certain friends to both them and their families. Maybe I will get rid of those who are only thinking of me as a permanent meal ticket/marriage.

I guess I have been naive about Filip. culture. But other than sneaking around and lying to everyone, I don't know how else to deal with shopping for the right woman. I am not against marriage, but I am very careful about vetting those that will make good long term marriage prospects and you cannot do that without spending time with many.

I have told all of them that I intend do visit more than one lady and then select from that. They have accepted that on the surface and continued to chat with me, but I don't think they have fully accepted it deep down-they are still hoping I will choose them. They have not shown any proclivity to pull some lame police or other aggressive action against me, but who knows what members of their family might do.

I guess this is rather selfish on my part, but how else do you sift through all the bad actors on DIA, etc in order to come up with someone you want something long term with?


Contracts will mean nothing over there, especially for the foreign party.

You don't have to tell filipina A about filipina B, they'll never know unless you're careless with your cellphone or laptop around her. When I am chatting to two, and she's saying 'you busy?' implying who's the other girl, I just say I went to toilet or internets slow, a random 'is yahoo msg crashing on you?' comment adds to the believability

Don't give the impression you're the 'one-girl guy' from the start, and if you do but she still gets jealous and there are signs there might something sinister afoot, I would leave, seriously. Mind you, this has never happened to me, I usually end it before she gets ideas of meeting the parents and morning school runs... and with filipinas this starts 1 month into relationships I would say :o

The best defence in the situation you fear is to up sticks and leave. Trust me, you have no offence against dodgy police...

GregLondon
10-03-10, 21:28
It's too late to start lying to them about each other. I have been honest with all of them; they all know which cities I have other interests in. I have not however given them my full name in most cases., yet.

I cannot believe that a well written contract will not hold some weight in the courts there, but I could be mistaken, depending on if the family has connections and/or bribes the judge.

Maybe if I stay in a hotel and never let these friends into my room, that would help. But then, of course, I cannot sleep with any of them. Which is not all bad as these ladies are mostly friends at this point, not neccesarily women I am hot to trot with.

I will try to make it VERY clear that I have no intention of marrying certain friends to both them and their families. Maybe I will get rid of those who are only thinking of me as a permanent meal ticket/marriage.

I guess I have been naive about Filip. culture. But other than sneaking around and lying to everyone, I don't know how else to deal with shopping for the right woman. I am not against marriage, but I am very careful about vetting those that will make good long term marriage prospects and you cannot do that without spending time with many.

I have told all of them that I intend do visit more than one lady and then select from that. They have accepted that on the surface and continued to chat with me, but I don't think they have fully accepted it deep down-they are still hoping I will choose them. They have not shown any proclivity to pull some lame police or other aggressive action against me, but who knows what members of their family might do.

I guess this is rather selfish on my part, but how else do you sift through all the bad actors on DIA, etc in order to come up with someone you want something long term with?


The idea of relying on a legal contract in cases like this in the Philippines is laughable.

There are some girls who are (supposedly) saving their virginity for the man they are going to/will marry. Often this is just a BS story in the hope that you will take her more seriously , pay her more, give her an expensive gift etc. But I dare say in some cases it may be true, in which case you could end up upsetting the parents if you have been spinning some BS story just to get into her panties.

More generally the girls will be mature enough to know that most sensible guys will want to meet and "get to know" several girls before settling on a long term partner. Of course they will each be keen to make this set as exclusive as possible. Any sensible, non naive girl will also know that many western guys are merely using the possibly very remote chance that he may marry her as a carrot to get a higher quality girl/ lower cost / more enthusiastic performance than if he were being realistic with her. In some cases I think guys are being cynically duplicious, in others I suspect it's a matter of kidding himself as much as the girl.

WestCoast1
10-04-10, 05:13
Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.Having you deported is little more than a threat. Its hard for locals to get the attention of (corrupt) immigration officials. Locals don't have money for bribes. Its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc). If it were the case of locals in the province having a foreign bf deported every time they got mad, there would be tens of thousands of these yearly, and we'd all stop going there. Relax.


Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.Its not necessarily exaggerated to them, especially if they are provincial girls. There is a cultural difference here. There is (or can be) a real danger for a young provincial girl to have her first foreign boyfriend show up, spend time, then leave, without talk of marriage or another visit geared towards marriage. Even if she doesn't have sex with you, if she goes to your hotel for even a few hours, she will be seen by folks in her town as sleeping with you. If she was known prior to your visit as a virgin, she will have lost that reputation on your departure. This represents a minority of girls. Most are glad to spend time with you, and are more than willing to sleep with you. But for some, yes, they see the purpose of your visit as to solidify the relationship with her and her family to marry.


Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.The contract, the recorded chat sessions, none of that will help. The contract may not be legally binding in the first place. Even if it was, it won't help. Its not that you are a foreigner and don't have rights (you do), but you have as few legal rights as citizens there (their legal rights are ignored also, just like yours will be). A girl having you sign a contract promising to marry her there would have the same legal recourse: not much.

Fast Buck Artist
10-04-10, 12:41
its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc).there is a well publicised case of an american military guy called daniel smith who picked up a drunk girl in subic had sex with her and she filed a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge case for which he spent 3 years in jail.. the conniving woman, after she already left philippines and settled her whoring ass with some sugar daddy in usa, has admitted the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) allegations were a fabricated crock. so be careful what you do, deportation may be a blessing compared to that ordeal.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/17/2009-03-17_filipino_who_accused_us_marine_daniel_sm-1.html

FreebieFan
10-05-10, 01:04
there is a well publicised case of an american military guy called daniel smith who picked up a drunk girl in subic had sex with her and she filed a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge case for which he spent 3 years in jail.. the conniving woman, after she already left philippines and settled her whoring ass with some sugar daddy in usa, has admitted the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) allegations were a fabricated crock. so be careful what you do, deportation may be a blessing compared to that ordeal.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/17/2009-03-17_filipino_who_accused_us_marine_daniel_sm-1.htmlthere is of course another version of the story, whereby the us government quietly waited 3 months till after the trial then speedily processed her us visa/residency application and thereafter she recanted her story once in possession of her papers as part of the deal.

no one hear knows what really happened. but whatever did, theres no disputing the fact that the sailor had sex in the back of the van with her, whilst his mates all watched then dumped her on the pavement so he wouldn't be late getting back to the ship.

really classy well bought up kid he was.

TurdyCurdyOne
10-05-10, 05:37
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having you deported is little more than a threat. its hard for locals to get the attention of (corrupt) immigration officials. locals don't have money for bribes. its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc). if it were the case of locals in the province having a foreign bf deported every time they got mad, there would be tens of thousands of these yearly, and we'd all stop going there. relax.

*ok, thanks for the info.

its not necessarily exaggerated to them, especially if they are provincial girls. there is a cultural difference here. there is (or can be) a real danger for a young provincial girl to have her first foreign boyfriend show up, spend time, then leave, without talk of marriage or another visit geared towards marriage. even if she doesn't have sex with you, if she goes to your hotel for even a few hours, she will be seen by folks in her town as sleeping with you. if she was known prior to your visit as a virgin, she will have lost that reputation on your departure. this represents a minority of girls. most are glad to spend time with you, and are more than willing to sleep with you. but for some, yes, they see the purpose of your visit as to solidify the relationship with her and her family to marry.

*guess i forgot to state they are all older, not chasing any virgins or similar.

the contract, the recorded chat sessions, none of that will help. the contract may not be legally binding in the first place. even if it was, it won't help. its not that you are a foreigner and don't have rights (you do), but you have as few legal rights as citizens there (their legal rights are ignored also, just like yours will be). a girl having you sign a contract promising to marry her there would have the same legal recourse: not much.

*i think if a video tape of the lady showing that no promises were made and that any lies made by the family are not true might not be given weight by the authorities unless of course it were made public on the media, which is who i would send it too if false claims of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) arose. i know i am being a bit paranoid, but be prepared is my motto.

Wicked Roger
10-05-10, 06:47
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*i think if a video tape of the lady showing that no promises were made and that any lies made by the family are not true might not be given weight by the authorities unless of course it were made public on the media, which is who i would send it too if false claims of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) arose. i know i am being a bit paranoid, but be prepared is my motto.

best you avoid pi like the plague if you are as paranoid as this and lets more seasoned visitors like myself and those who live in pi handle the 'difficult' matter of virgins and pussy.

get a life and come to pi and have fun, if you worry about all these things even a massive v and c cocktail will not help you rise to the occasion :d

try thailand, cambodia, vietnam but clearly pi is not a place for someone who worries like you do...

TurdyCurdyOne
10-05-10, 09:22
You may be right. The Phil is a good country for exacerbating paranoia as there are so many bad things about the place. It's overpriced, highly corrupt with alot of scamming, hypocrisy and a disregard for poriners whose value only lasts as long as their money. Once you're money is gone, you're just an interloper who they would rather be rid of.

I once asked a smart Filipina why it is that Filipinos frequently elect someone with great enthusiasm and then turn around a few years later to riot and try to hang the same guy by his thumbs from the nearest utility pole. Her answer was that Filipinos only are loyal to you as long as your bringing home the bacon. Once that stops your just another bas*tard they need to get rid of.

Put your mind at ease Wicked Roger. No competition from me and I will not even impact your Viagra market as I don't need it. I rarely even chat with women under 35 years of age there. Perhaps I am stupid but I was hoping to find a good woman to marry there instead of arriving, blowing all my money on tourist pricing, booze, and sex with young girls only to have to return home to make money for my next trip as is the routine of most foreigners coming there.

I would rather be paranoid and cautious then wind up in a Phil. jail, have to pay bribes to pigs, or worse. In fact, those things usually happen to poriners who THINK they know the country and get too relaxed, usually under the influence of too much drink and their little heads doing all the thinking.

I will endeavor to put an end to this thread as the main purpose of this forum is trying to get laid without too much regard to long term consequences.



Best you avoid PI like the plague if you are as paranoid as this and lets more seasoned visitors like myself and those who live in PI handle the 'difficult' matter of virgins and pussy.

Get a life and come to PI and have fun, if you worry about all these things even a massive V and C cocktail will not help you rise to the occasion :D

Try Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam but clearly PI is not a place for someone who worries like you do...

Fast Buck Artist
10-05-10, 10:07
i would rather be paranoid and cautious then wind up in a phil. jail, have to pay bribes to pigs, or worse. in fact, those things usually happen to poriners who think they know the country and get too relaxed, usually under the influence of too much drink and their little heads doing all the thinking.while such occurences are rare, i have known personally several foreigners who ended up in a filipino prison without much trial or due process, so taking some precautions is certainly a good idea.

you need a trustworthy lawyer or a friend familiar with filipino justice system who can come to your rescue if you get locked up. while you are inside your ability to help yourself is very limited so you will really need outside help. you should also have an emergency fund of 50,000 pesos put aside for bail/bribes/getting help.

and most importantly, dont stir up trouble.

- dont get caught with **** women or in a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) type situation
- dont get into fights, concealed weapons are common here, from flick knives to handguns
- dont get involved in politics, land disputes or any of the local squabbles for power
- avoid the police, and bribe them if they pick on you, for minor offenses 200 pesos should do, going up depending on the transgression committed

Wicked Roger
10-05-10, 13:57
Put your mind at ease Wicked Roger. No competition from me and I will not even impact your Viagra market as I don't need it. I rarely even chat with women under 35 years of age there.

instead of arriving, blowing all my money on tourist pricing, booze, and sex with young girls only to have to return home to make money for my next trip as is the routine of most foreigners coming there.


TC

That is exactly what I do :)....blow my cash but not on booze just cuties and then return home and do it all again as soon as possible :D Good that you go the over 35s as leaves the young cuties to me and others ....yummy

Marrying and finding a wife....lots of chatter on this but take your time, enjoy the variety beofre you chose...try and make sure she is kinky, not jealous, likes to be naughty etc ...well that is my advice :) Many ignore it for some reason :(

Member #4351
10-05-10, 14:17
This trip has made me even more convinced that if some guy wants to get married, the PI is the place to find a wife. I have never seen so many girls groomed to get married to anything as long as the utang is sent every month. For someone who doesn't care much about intellectual conversation, but is happy having a cutie who lives to do housework and have kids, this is the place to find the perfect wife. I used to think that Peruvian chicas would make the best wives, but the Pinays have them beat, IMHO.

Not that I'm considering getting married, but I don't live in sex prison U.S.A. either.

Fast Buck Artist
10-06-10, 07:25
Check out miss fem20 on DIA, sounds like one for you pervs

Hug me I'll show you happy on bed

I'm naughty

I want to meet a Male

With age from 20 to 50

And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.

I want hard all time

Member #4491
10-06-10, 16:00
I never go over 22 normally, but I'll be damned if I did not have myself both a 28 year old and a 30 year old this trip. Both upper class with their own car, etc. Nice to have an intellectual exchange, but not to be confused with being better than the defloration of a tight 19 year old. Just different. These older girls in general seem more open to experimenting with getting cum shot up their ass as well as their fanny.

Wicked Roger
10-07-10, 06:01
I never go over 22 normally, but I'll be damned if I did not have myself both a 28 year old and a 30 year old this trip. Both upper class with their own car, etc. Nice to have an intellectual exchange, but not to be confused with being better than the defloration of a tight 19 year old. Just different. These older girls in general seem more open to experimenting with getting cum shot up their ass as well as their fanny.

Barba

I just stick witt the first sentence and never have trouble getting the girls to experiment...must be the way I smile at them :D Or the fact I look harmless and conservative when we meet ;) Unlike a few monger I know......

Sorry we missed each other hopefully soon we will have the same schedules

Wicked Roger
10-07-10, 22:45
Well she sounds very agressive on DIA, maybe her profile is too well written so read it carefully as some are written by the boyfriend/toerag/a**hole etc depending on the relationship

Maybe a tad chubby for some of you wimps out there (Bopalula springs to mind?) but if you are submissive then I doubt you care :D

hot_openminded_woman is the ID

Let us all know if you sample......;)

Gangles
10-09-10, 17:14
I came across her profile back in May.

At that time she was saying that she was up for everything.

So, people change, maybe she has discovered her true self.

G

GoodEnough
10-10-10, 01:00
You may be right. The Phil is a good country for exacerbating paranoia as there are so many bad things about the place. It's overpriced, highly corrupt with alot of scamming, hypocrisy and a disregard for poriners whose value only lasts as long as their money. Once you're money is gone, you're just an interloper who they would rather be rid of.

There's a lot of wisdom in this post, and guys who really don't know the country should pay attention to it. As I've said in a prior post, some people (mostly newbies) think, after a few days in country that they "understand" the place, cause most people speak at least a little English, and in some respects in can appear Westernized. The fact is, the Westernization facade is quite shallow, and the country is just as opaque as other SE Asian countries.

It's easy to land in jail here, and it's easy to fall for scams, which is why it's wise never to call any attention to yourself and never to act on pure impulse.

It's not really so much that they "would rather be rid of" us. It's that, at a certain stratum of society, they will seize any opportunity to extort money from anyone...Filipino and foreigner alike. It's a very poor country with lots of desperate people and thoroughly corrupt officials.

GE

Cuba Tourist
10-11-10, 17:13
Just looking a friend , , , ";)

Unselfish, thoughtful and kind
Honest, faithful and trustworthy
Patient, sincere and forgiving
Modest, pure and chaste
Compassionate, caring and giving
Understanding, humble and secure.

A Real Woman...
Understands chastity
Values her sexuality
Appreciates her fertility
Controls her passions and desires
Never uses other people.
THAT'S ME!!!

Fast Buck Artist
10-11-10, 18:47
While reading dating profiles I am stupefied how many demands women have from their "dream man", women who truth be told should be thankful for ANY man to write them a message, but they demand the sun the moon and the holy mountains... read this particular piece of work as an example...

I want to meet a Male
with age from 29 to 44

Someone who is ambitious and independent. I like friends who's confident and is able to communicate well. Sharing some similiar hobbies would be great.

And The man I am looking for should be intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, open, willing to try anything at least once and willing to give it his all to everything he does. He should have an outer beauty that catches my eye, however he should have an inner beauty that takes my breath away everytime I look into his eyes. I want to be able to kiss his soft beautiful lips and make his eyes roll into the back of his head and melt in my arms. I want to smell his perfume all day on my dress shirt after receiving a morning hug before leaving the house for work - making me smile and distracting me from the daily grind. I want to laugh for hours, joke and tease one another, and just be silly with him. He definitely has to have a great personality and be easy to talk to.

=======

The author? An overweight 31 year old muslim separated single mum who smokes.

Get real for fucks sake, ladies

Tally Wacker
10-12-10, 00:59
As its been spoke about many times on this board the girls usualy dont know what to write on their online profile so they just copy from somewhere else. I never even read the specifics on the profiles and just look at the pic, location and age. I figure out the rest later if I ever chat with them.

Btw thats a pretty big age gap she left between 29 and 44. Damn I got back to the States and signed up for a well known dating site and the average looking women that are upper 30's, divorced with two kids are looking for a man only a few years older than them and have so many requests.


While reading dating profiles I am stupefied how many demands women have from their "dream man", women who truth be told should be thankful for ANY man to write them a message, but they demand the sun the moon and the holy mountains... read this particular piece of work as an example...

I want to meet a Male
with age from 29 to 44

Someone who is ambitious and independent. I like friends who's confident and is able to communicate well. Sharing some similiar hobbies would be great.

And The man I am looking for should be intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, open, willing to try anything at least once and willing to give it his all to everything he does. He should have an outer beauty that catches my eye, however he should have an inner beauty that takes my breath away everytime I look into his eyes. I want to be able to kiss his soft beautiful lips and make his eyes roll into the back of his head and melt in my arms. I want to smell his perfume all day on my dress shirt after receiving a morning hug before leaving the house for work - making me smile and distracting me from the daily grind. I want to laugh for hours, joke and tease one another, and just be silly with him. He definitely has to have a great personality and be easy to talk to.

=======

The author? An overweight 31 year old muslim separated single mum who smokes.

Get real for fucks sake, ladies

Amavida
10-12-10, 04:41
Just looking a friend , , , ";)

Unselfish, thoughtful and kind
Honest, faithful and trustworthy
Patient, sincere and forgiving
Modest, pure and chaste
Compassionate, caring and giving
Understanding, humble and secure.

A Real Woman...
Understands chastity
Values her sexuality
Appreciates her fertility
Controls her passions and desires
Never uses other people.
THAT'S ME!!!
Many have a little bit of spoken English, most have very little written English.
Most of this stuff is cut & pasted by a bakla cousin from some other dating site.

AV

Fast Buck Artist
10-12-10, 10:17
Btw thats a pretty big age gap she left between 29 and 44. Damn I got back to the States and signed up for a well known dating site and the average looking women that are upper 30's, divorced with two kids are looking for a man only a few years older than them and have so many requests.I dont know how many men exist in this world who are truly "intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, ambitious, independent and able to communicate well".. I would estimate maybe 1 out of 50 .. and 1 out of 100 on a dating site?? And do these ladies really think such a rare specimen, who no doubt has MANY women to choose from, would go for a 30+ separated mum with 2 kids, 70kgs of goodness on a 5'5 frame, bad habits and bad baggage from ex-husband??

How do these ladies get so out of touch with reality? Is it all the romance pocketbooks they read or what?

Tenchi
10-12-10, 18:36
While reading dating profiles I am stupefied how many demands women have from their "dream man", women who truth be told should be thankful for ANY man to write them a message, but they demand the sun the moon and the holy mountains... read this particular piece of work as an example...

I want to meet a Male
with age from 29 to 44

Someone who is ambitious and independent. I like friends who's confident and is able to communicate well. Sharing some similiar hobbies would be great.

And The man I am looking for should be intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, open, willing to try anything at least once and willing to give it his all to everything he does. He should have an outer beauty that catches my eye, however he should have an inner beauty that takes my breath away everytime I look into his eyes. I want to be able to kiss his soft beautiful lips and make his eyes roll into the back of his head and melt in my arms. I want to smell his perfume all day on my dress shirt after receiving a morning hug before leaving the house for work - making me smile and distracting me from the daily grind. I want to laugh for hours, joke and tease one another, and just be silly with him. He definitely has to have a great personality and be easy to talk to.

=======

The author? An overweight 31 year old muslim separated single mum who smokes.

Get real for fucks sake, ladies



Hm it's a better profile than other though, let's be honest... 99% of these profiles are a variation of

simple
badminton
accept me for who I am
secret

So at least that one actually wrote something different haha..^_^

FreebieFan
10-13-10, 01:21
How do these ladies get so out of touch with reality? Is it all the romance pocketbooks they read or what?I think you successfully answered your own question!. Yes its pocketbooks, its rumour, its gossip "(I have a friend who has a friend who married an Aussie/Brit/American guy etc). And their heads are filled with it.

I often tell overweight ladies who send me messages that my preference is for under 50kg. They often reply, with some banality succh as " Ok I won't have rice today ". They're all just waiting for the Knight in Shining Armour. Who won't be going to there place any time soon. LOL

Econo Tech
10-13-10, 03:11
How do these ladies get so out of touch with reality? Is it all the romance pocketbooks they read or what?Ever heard of the saying "God Grants your wishes? " Not to be offensive to the religion, but 99% of the filipinas believe it. Even to the extent of. Like when I ask girls I meet in the bar in Singapore. "What are you planning to do in Singapore? "

Answer: "find a nice guy and marry. And be happy. "

And they not just say it, but 100% believe it. Never for a moment doubting that the sweet talkers in bars are only out for a fuck and nothing more.

And one girl I met said it was her dream to visit a castle. Like in the Tagaytay. But a real one. I stopped analysing the rationale.

Cheers

Fast Buck Artist
10-13-10, 03:17
Hm it's a better profile than other though, let's be honest... 99% of these profiles are a variation of

simple
badminton
accept me for who I am
secret

So at least that one actually wrote something different haha..^_^Haha good point.

Also god fearing and singing.

Questor55
10-13-10, 17:37
Guys,

I just got a message on DIA. 'One for the books.'

Her name: BOOBSYBOOM69

Think I should check her out?

DT Looker
10-13-10, 22:08
Because you are not doing the girl a favor in the long run.

Every time you send money, these girls develop an expectation of easy cash. Why should she bust her ass getting a second job or pursuing a degree when she can just "work" the internet cafes trolling dopes for money?

And every time she succeeds, she tells 10 friends. Each then tell 10 more. Pretty soon, you have an entire country of girls expecting to make money the easy way.

What happens when nobody wires anymore because she's no longer cute and young? Your money discouraged her from preparing for a future. So ultimately, your money harmed her.Actually this sounds like many girls I know who got hooked in to prostitution and stripping in the US. The SMART ones used that money to continue getting an education. The stupid ones kept thinking that it was cash that was always going to be around.


This is one reason why the Philippines is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor. The entire country is one big welfare basket case because it's filled with lazy incompetant people out for the short term.Actually, from what I've seen. It not just that the GIRLS are lazy, they actually work pretty hard. Its the GUYS that are lazy. From what I've managed to see from their culture, the women's job it to make sure the house is nice and clean and keep the husband happy. SUPPOSEDLY the men are supposed to go out and get a job, but for some reason if he cannot make money. It then falls to the OLDEST DAUGHTER (that doesn't have a baby) to make money. The SONS are supposed to sit around, and try to find a wife to have sex and marry. Many times, its the Father, and Sons that are sitting around gambling and trying to make quick money, while the daughters and wives are trying to keep the house and home fed.


Ultimately, it's a personal choice to donate money.

People who wire money to the Philippines should fully understand and accept the fact that 1) they're buying a girl's attention and 2) they're providing down payment for future sex. If those are your expectations, hey, by all means send the money.

But I have a feeling most guys who give are hoping to start a relationship. For these types of guys, they are a fool to part with even a penny.I'd say be careful about sending money. Sometimes, its just a nice charity, other times its a nice down payment to a good time, but sometimes you have to realize that it can mean much more than that.

After checking with a friend who has a Filipino Wife that was a 'ex-camgirl'. I just realized that in some way I did a 'traditional' Filipino Courtship. Ones that the girls in the Philippines would LOVE for ANY GUY to do with them. Note that this MIGHT help you get down some girls' pants, but realize you'll probably have to much invested in the girl, that you'd better at least treat them as your GF, or even more. Potential wife. And if you just have sex with her and leave her, you probably want to stay away from that part of the Philippines.

First stupid thing I did was send a small 'nice gift' for the family and her. Sent the family one of those 'Camp Showers' things that warms up the water all day, and you can use it to take a bath? I figured, it was cheap and on sale, and was a nice gift ($15). While I was at it I sent the girl a stuffed animal and a bit of chocolate (heard they LOVE it, and mine likes Toberlone so I sent some.) NOW, I find out what I actually did could be considered 'Pasalubong' when a guy asks for permission to either ask a girl out, or 'court her'. He is supposed to do this to 'break the ice'. A gift for her 'family', and something special 'for her'.

Second stupid thing was I 'gave her an allowance'. I found out that most girls would be happy with 2, 000php and at the most 6, 000php is what many of the poorer girls would want. (Any girl asking for more, either has a HUGE family to take care of, or is ripping you off.) I sent her a 'monthly allowance' of 2, 000php for about 3 months. I now found out this is almost the same as 'Paninilbihan', The guy who likes a girl, has to come over and help the family at home as often as possible. Once again, due to distance, my regular 'donations' they are taking it this way. THIS is what some FAMILIES might take your 'regular donations as'. More often than naught, a girl sends most of the money to their families. Some of the weird things like (roof blew off of house today) ACTUALLY do happen

Third and FINAL (and I warn you use this information at your own peril) is to SING to her. If a girl asks you to sing to her, she might be 'on the edge of falling for you'. Not knowing better, and trying to keep her 'happy'. I sang to her once when she was in a cafe, and another when she was with her family. Didn't think it was crocodile tears when she's breaking down and crying. THIS was what made me think WTF did I do to make her cry? After checking with my friend, this is known as 'Haruna' where the guy sings to the girl his love. At this point, almost ALL GIRLS fall in love with you at this point. Once you've sung to them, Its almost like putting on an engagement ring.

Only remaining step is for me to propose to her, and marry her. I'd also like to warn guys, that while this is a bit 'much' for some girls. Doing this, pretty much cements them into thinking you want to marry them, and makes her family believe it also. These girls may also will play 'hard to get' while this happens. Also, don't expect to get 'lucky' with the girl if she's a virgin. By then, she's waiting for the wedding night. You could try and have sex and leave her, but like I said you better stay away from that part of Philippines for a while. Filipinos have HUGE families.

Initially, I thought I was being nice and prepping for a 'nice time' in Philippines, now I found out that I actually COURTED one girl. If she or her family catches me with another girl, I'm probably going to be in trouble. Its a good thing I only went this far with ONE girl. I started to be aware and started to treat other girls with less 'attention' like crazy. (It does help that she is cute, sexy, and very attractive. Which was why I was willing to go this far for her.)

X Man
10-14-10, 08:57
Interesting story DT. If you don't mind, how did you meet the girl and (roughly) which part of the Philippines does she reside in?

X


SNIP

I'd say be careful about sending money. Sometimes, its just a nice charity, other times its a nice down payment to a good time, but sometimes you have to realize that it can mean much more than that.

After checking with a friend who has a Filipino Wife that was a 'ex-camgirl'. I just realized that in some way I did a 'traditional' Filipino Courtship. Ones that the girls in the Philippines would LOVE for ANY GUY to do with them. Note that this MIGHT help you get down some girls' pants, but realize you'll probably have to much invested in the girl, that you'd better at least treat them as your GF, or even more. Potential wife. And if you just have sex with her and leave her, you probably want to stay away from that part of the Philippines.

First stupid thing I did was send a small 'nice gift' for the family and her. Sent the family one of those 'Camp Showers' things that warms up the water all day, and you can use it to take a bath? I figured, it was cheap and on sale, and was a nice gift ($15). While I was at it I sent the girl a stuffed animal and a bit of chocolate (heard they LOVE it, and mine likes Toberlone so I sent some.) NOW, I find out what I actually did could be considered 'Pasalubong' when a guy asks for permission to either ask a girl out, or 'court her'. He is supposed to do this to 'break the ice'. A gift for her 'family', and something special 'for her'.

Second stupid thing was I 'gave her an allowance'. I found out that most girls would be happy with 2, 000php and at the most 6, 000php is what many of the poorer girls would want. (Any girl asking for more, either has a HUGE family to take care of, or is ripping you off.) I sent her a 'monthly allowance' of 2, 000php for about 3 months. I now found out this is almost the same as 'Paninilbihan', The guy who likes a girl, has to come over and help the family at home as often as possible. Once again, due to distance, my regular 'donations' they are taking it this way. THIS is what some FAMILIES might take your 'regular donations as'. More often than naught, a girl sends most of the money to their families. Some of the weird things like (roof blew off of house today) ACTUALLY do happen

Third and FINAL (and I warn you use this information at your own peril) is to SING to her. If a girl asks you to sing to her, she might be 'on the edge of falling for you'. Not knowing better, and trying to keep her 'happy'. I sang to her once when she was in a cafe, and another when she was with her family. Didn't think it was crocodile tears when she's breaking down and crying. THIS was what made me think WTF did I do to make her cry? After checking with my friend, this is known as 'Haruna' where the guy sings to the girl his love. At this point, almost ALL GIRLS fall in love with you at this point. Once you've sung to them, Its almost like putting on an engagement ring.

Only remaining step is for me to propose to her, and marry her. I'd also like to warn guys, that while this is a bit 'much' for some girls. Doing this, pretty much cements them into thinking you want to marry them, and makes her family believe it also. These girls may also will play 'hard to get' while this happens. Also, don't expect to get 'lucky' with the girl if she's a virgin. By then, she's waiting for the wedding night. You could try and have sex and leave her, but like I said you better stay away from that part of Philippines for a while. Filipinos have HUGE families.

Initially, I thought I was being nice and prepping for a 'nice time' in Philippines, now I found out that I actually COURTED one girl. If she or her family catches me with another girl, I'm probably going to be in trouble. Its a good thing I only went this far with ONE girl. I started to be aware and started to treat other girls with less 'attention' like crazy. (It does help that she is cute, sexy, and very attractive. Which was why I was willing to go this far for her.)

Questor55
10-14-10, 17:32
Here's another sweet, innocent girl to introduce to Mom.

Fuckgirl

19 years old from Talisay.

Questor55
10-14-10, 18:24
Hats off to you, DT, for a great, detailed report that contained lots of invaluable insights into cultural differences and perceptions.

I have frequently shown my appreciation, upon parting from a girl that I've taken away for a few days, in a similar manner.

Stopped at the super market and loaded up on stuff for her to take home.

I never thought that this might be misread as a serious commitment

On my part. Now, I'm feeling guilty that I may have, inadvertently,

Put the girl in an awkward position with her family's expectations of lots more to come.

Look forward to many more reports from you in the future.

Your report definitely belongs in The Reports of Distinction.

FreebieFan
10-15-10, 00:54
Actually, from what I've seen. It not just that the GIRLS are lazy, they actually work pretty hard. Its the GUYS that are lazy. From what I've managed to see from their culture, the women's job it to make sure the house is nice and clean and keep the husband happy. SUPPOSEDLY the men are supposed to go out and get a job, but for some reason if he cannot make money. It then falls to the OLDEST DAUGHTER (that doesn't have a baby) to make money. The SONS are supposed to sit around, and try to find a wife to have sex and marry. Many times, its the Father, and Sons that are sitting around gambling and trying to make quick money.

)I would totally agree with you. Drive round any barangay and the guys are sitting from daybreak till dusk at the corner store etc dooing nothing.

Saddest stories I heard were from maids in HK who sent all their hard earned salaries (12-14 hours a day, 6 days a week) back to their sit-around husbands, and then they found out on annual trip home that the lazy bastards had spent it all on beer, girls, cock fights etc.

The Wives/Maids grew smart after year one, and then never sent money to their husbands, and were much less faithful thereafter with lucky fellows like me being the recipients LOL.

SergeantRay
10-15-10, 01:49
D T Looker,

You are so right -sending money does tend to backfire on you. Your attempts to help almost always create greater expectations and greater dependency. I found this out the hard way.

By the way, a serenade is a "harana." But you're right --leave the marriage expenses to the marrying saps out there.

FreebieFan
10-15-10, 02:50
Ms Babrbie Panoncia of Antipolo on DIA makes an interesting statement

"kyla

im looking to be my hasbond "

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm assuming she wants to marry herself?

Red Kilt
10-15-10, 07:17
Interesting story DT. If you don't mind, how did you meet the girl and (roughly) which part of the Philippines does she reside in?

X

X - I am interested in the reasoning behind your question.

Do you think it matters where she (roughly) comes from?

My experience has been that no matter which particular group a girl comes from (Ilokana, Cebuana, Tagalog, Waray, Ilonggo..), they all show this remarkable ability to transfer any simple act of kindness, no matter how small or trivial, into a "Now I love you and I hope you love me too" sort of response.

Your question implies that you think there may be differences??

Tenchi
10-15-10, 11:27
Hats off to you, DT, for a great, detailed report that contained lots of invaluable insights into cultural differences and perceptions.

I have frequently shown my appreciation, upon parting from a girl that I've taken away for a few days, in a similar manner.

Stopped at the super market and loaded up on stuff for her to take home.

I never thought that this might be misread as a serious commitment

On my part. Now, I'm feeling guilty that I may have, inadvertently,

Put the girl in an awkward position with her family's expectations of lots more to come.

Look forward to many more reports from you in the future.

Your report definitely belongs in The Reports of Distinction.


haha... yep, pasalubong, which means if you want to be accepted by the family you must show your face to them bearing gifts. It's actually said in the Phils that courting a filipina means courting the family as well :o Just be careful this doesnt lead to pamamanhikan which means marriage dates!!!!

Also, about harana, which is basically serenading, think singing to their bedroom window... this is only a rural provincial thing. I once asked a girl from Manila if she would like me to do this, and she said it was only done in the provinces, suffice to say I was relieved!!!! so guys there's no need for second thoughts when she asks you to take her to karaoke, you'll be fine :p haha

Member #4491
10-17-10, 21:49
Dt Looker,

You need to educate not only her but also her family. This mix of medieval principles of courtship, gold digger expectations and pink Barbie romantics is easily avoided if you tell her "I ONLY want to be your very special friend. Yea sure I will help you out but only as a friend". You will get to fuck her anyway. I have been in similar situations many times. I have a ring on my finger so it is pretty obvious that I am "just a friend" but as long as the family see another easy peso around the corner they will not bother you. In fact they will be pretty flexible to any twist and turn in your relationship with this girl, since she is just one out of 200 cousins and any foreigner in the family is a good foreigner, no matter what.

There is this this exotication about the dangers of Philippino families, just like there are of most other parts of the world. These are often a result of

A) peoples eagerness to profile themselves by telling other about various dangers that they know about and can handle (compare to hunting stories dangerous fishes caught, or whatever men use as penis enlargement), and

B) a need to create some excitements by exaggerating the real world slightly.

Security is a trade commodity. If you have nothing to trade, you will be insecure. Your object of trade can be future happiness, future cash, their safety, etc. The more shit you throw on someone's pride, the more you should be prepared to pay. All humans have a price, and I am often surprised to read that a poor fisherman's family scare the shit out of a financially secure world traveller.

I used to have one gf with a high ranking politician as grandmother. Both her body guards had more than two confirmed kills and would charge 4500 peso to take someone out. And then one have to add the negotiation with the surviving family, which by far will be the expensive part. This lola did not approve of me at all, but I am still here. I know all cousins and uncles, and meet them regularly. Army men and other hard core guys, but never the less the general fear that I might know someone even heavier is always there for them. These guys are just as phlegmatic when it comes to killing someone or beating them up, as they are to work, so the fact that I actually like to get pissed with them every once in a while is maybe alone a reason to keep smiling at me. It is notable that I am always respectful, smiling and social to all people. I never fuck people over (in a symbolic sense at least) and I never hide my opinions or the truth about me or my intentions with the girl. Sure Philippines is unsafe and poor, but to say that a Catholic Christian family is more disposed to family shamed invoked violence here than in say Spain or Colombia is just like when young boys compares whos daddy is strongest. The violence is random/provoked in the moment or invoked by a criminal scheme to gain assets.

So my point is; do all the singing and stuff, but be clear about YOUR expectations on HER. SHE should impress you and deserve YOUR money. Do not let the woman run you. Do not let her family run you. Remember who is paying the party. They know that you can snap your fingers and have 100 other cute girls on your lap. No need to emulate how rich pinoys treat women, but there is something to learn from studying how men behave towards females outside pussy runed US or Europe. We need to grow our balls back perhaps?

Barba

PolyOrchid
10-18-10, 02:18
Dt Looker,

You need to educate not only her but also her family. This mix of medieval principles of courtship, gold digger expectations and pink Barbie romantics is easily avoided if you tell her "I ONLY want to be your very special friend. Yea sure I will help you out but only as a friend". You will get to fuck her anyway. I have been in similar situations many times. I have a ring on my finger so it is pretty obvious that I am "just a friend" but as long as the family see another easy peso around the corner they will not bother you. In fact they will be pretty flexible to any twist and turn in your relationship with this girl, since she is just one out of 200 cousins and any foreigner in the family is a good foreigner, no matter what.

There is this this exotication about the dangers of Philippino families, just like there are of most other parts of the world. These are often a result of

A) peoples eagerness to profile themselves by telling other about various dangers that they know about and can handle (compare to hunting stories dangerous fishes caught, or whatever men use as penis enlargement), and

B) a need to create some excitements by exaggerating the real world slightly.

Security is a trade commodity. If you have nothing to trade, you will be insecure. Your object of trade can be future happiness, future cash, their safety, etc. The more shit you throw on someone's pride, the more you should be prepared to pay. All humans have a price, and I am often surprised to read that a poor fisherman's family scare the shit out of a financially secure world traveller.

I used to have one gf with a high ranking politician as grandmother. Both her body guards had more than two confirmed kills and would charge 4500 peso to take someone out. And then one have to add the negotiation with the surviving family, which by far will be the expensive part. This lola did not approve of me at all, but I am still here. I know all cousins and uncles, and meet them regularly. Army men and other hard core guys, but never the less the general fear that I might know someone even heavier is always there for them. These guys are just as phlegmatic when it comes to killing someone or beating them up, as they are to work, so the fact that I actually like to get pissed with them every once in a while is maybe alone a reason to keep smiling at me. It is notable that I am always respectful, smiling and social to all people. I never fuck people over (in a symbolic sense at least) and I never hide my opinions or the truth about me or my intentions with the girl. Sure Philippines is unsafe and poor, but to say that a Catholic Christian family is more disposed to family shamed invoked violence here than in say Spain or Colombia is just like when young boys compares whos daddy is strongest. The violence is random/provoked in the moment or invoked by a criminal scheme to gain assets.

So my point is; do all the singing and stuff, but be clear about YOUR expectations on HER. SHE should impress you and deserve YOUR money. Do not let the woman run you. Do not let her family run you. Remember who is paying the party. They know that you can snap your fingers and have 100 other cute girls on your lap. No need to emulate how rich pinoys treat women, but there is something to learn from studying how men behave towards females outside pussy runed US or Europe. We need to grow our balls back perhaps?

BarbaBarba,


Great insights and advice. I agree especially with your comment that "..you can snap your fingers and have 100 other cute girls in your lap." I think too many of us (myself included) sometimes use sex-starved us/eu thinking here, when we must realize we are playing in a much different arena here.

Boys, the fish are biting here big time. If you don't like what you caught, throw it back, and bait up your hook and cast again. There are lots of great fish out there (fishing metaphor for Mr. Barba's benefit).

FreebieFan
10-18-10, 04:59
You need to educate not only her but also her family. This mix of medieval principles of courtship, gold digger expectations and pink Barbie romantics is easily avoided if you tell her "I ONLY want to be your very special friend. Yea sure I will help you out but only as a friend". You will get to fuck her anyway. I have been in similar situations many times. I have a ring on my finger so it is pretty obvious that I am "just a friend" but as long as the family see another easy peso around the corner they will not bother you. In fact they will be pretty flexible to any twist and turn in your relationship with this girl, since she is just one out of 200 cousins and any foreigner in the family is a good foreigner, no matter what.

BarbaI agree with you entirely. I have one girl who stays with me on night one of all my Manila trips. Before I see her I have to call the Mom and ask if her precious daughter can stay with me overnight. The girl is a sweet young student but the mum always reminds me I should provide a pasulobong. I give the girl something, she gives it to the mum, I'm happy, Mum happy, and girl happy. No one has said anything about this being a payment but we all know the score.

Perfect arrangement.

X Man
10-18-10, 12:54
Your assumptions are incorrect. It was a good story and I was curious about how and where it transpired. X


X - I am interested in the reasoning behind your question.

Do you think it matters where she (roughly) comes from?

My experience has been that no matter which particular group a girl comes from (Ilokana, Cebuana, Tagalog, Waray, Ilonggo..), they all show this remarkable ability to transfer any simple act of kindness, no matter how small or trivial, into a "Now I love you and I hope you love me too" sort of response.

Your question implies that you think there may be differences??

Red Kilt
10-18-10, 14:39
I agree with you entirely. I have one girl who stays with me on night one of all my Manila trips. Before I see her I have to call the Mom and ask if her precious daughter can stay with me overnight. The girl is a sweet young student but the mum always reminds me I should provide a pasulobong. I give the girl something, she gives it to the mum, I'm happy, Mum happy, and girl happy. No one has said anything about this being a payment but we all know the score.

Perfect arrangement.

I love this arrangement Freebie.

I am waiting for the day when you tell us that she said she needs to leave now because Dad is waiting outside to drive her home LOL

FreebieFan
10-18-10, 15:09
I love this arrangement Freebie.

I am waiting for the day when you tell us that she said she needs to leave now because Dad is waiting outside to drive her home LOLDad ran away with a lady about 8 weeks ago. Hence the fact the family may be relying on gifts even more than ever.

But sure, Dad beeping his horn to pick up his well stuffed daughter would have been an interesting sight. LOL

Childlover
10-19-10, 09:46
I agree with you entirely. I have one girl who stays with me on night one of all my Manila trips. Before I see her I have to call the Mom and ask if her precious daughter can stay with me overnight. The girl is a sweet young student but the mum always reminds me I should provide a pasulobong. I give the girl something, she gives it to the mum, I'm happy, Mum happy, and girl happy. No one has said anything about this being a payment but we all know the score.

Perfect arrangement.Great story. I have an similar arrangement at the school where I work.

Fast Buck Artist
10-19-10, 10:41
"Man who will love me for who and what I am"

Does anyone have an insight into this particular piece of romance pocketbook wisdom? I read it in every single dating profile.. is it a nice way of saying "I am not gonna change my bad habits like smoking and awful singing for your sake"?

Red Kilt
10-19-10, 11:04
Your assumptions are incorrect. It was a good story and I was curious about how and where it transpired. X

That's cool.
My question to you was very innocuous and genuinely seeking your impressions about whether there is a discernible difference between the way different groups behave.

My feeling is that it makes NO DIFFERENCE. You cannot pick where a girl comes from because of her initial behavior.
Having lived continuously here for almost 14 years, I can say that in general terms Ilokanas as a group seem to be different in that they are more industrious and tend to value hard-earned cash more.
However, once horizontal they are pretty much the same as all the others LOL

Red Kilt
10-19-10, 13:07
This exchange was part of a chat I had with a girl on DIA earlier today.
We shared YM addresses and this ensued.
It shows more evidence that what you read in profiles is not always "The Truth"


me (10/19/2010 7:01:56 PM): you are not really 65 kgs are you?
me (10/19/2010 7:02:07 PM): if you are only 5ft 2 ins
her (10/19/2010 7:02:13 PM): what u think
her (10/19/2010 7:02:22 PM): tell me
me (10/19/2010 7:02:24 PM): are you chubby? Taba?
her (10/19/2010 7:02:29 PM): not really
me (10/19/2010 7:02:30 PM): you dont look it – I see the foto
her (10/19/2010 7:02:35 PM): oki
me (10/19/2010 7:02:50 PM): 65 kgs means you are quite big if you are only 5ft 2 ins
her (10/19/2010 7:03:02 PM): im not?big
me (10/19/2010 7:03:07 PM): I can see that
me (10/19/2010 7:03:16 PM): so why you put 65 kgs?
her (10/19/2010 7:03:16 PM): yes
her (10/19/2010 7:03:21 PM): i didnt
me (10/19/2010 7:03:29 PM): in your profile it says that
her (10/19/2010 7:03:36 PM): thats not my profile
me (10/19/2010 7:03:39 PM): it says 5ft 2 ins and 65 kgs
her (10/19/2010 7:03:46 PM): i use that coz my porfile is close
her (10/19/2010 7:03:57 PM): so i use profile of my friend
me (10/19/2010 7:04:02 PM): whaaat? so the foto
me (10/19/2010 7:04:11 PM): is that you or ur fren?
her (10/19/2010 7:04:18 PM): yeah its me
her (10/19/2010 7:04:20 PM): i know
me(10/19/2010 7:04:51 PM): now you know why i asked if your profile was yours. crazy
her (10/19/2010 7:05:00 PM): i know dont worry ia snwer u the truth