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Starchild2012
11-04-11, 10:39
I recently joined DIA and other dating sites after a gap and the number of scams have gone up ten fold compared to couple of years back. Now I know why the french guy went bonkers at the airport for his gf not showing up. Thanks to the white guys who can't seem to keep their small head in the pants for long. They are ruining it for everyone else. The new white guy is impatient, unreasonable, illogical to say the least. Think before you act. They never heard about it. They would easily give in for a sight of tits or now even legs and tongue or whatever.

Lets get this a balanced perspective. I"m an Indian and as you all know. Indians are not the most preferred choice for dating in South East Asia or frankly anywhere on earth with all our smelly curry ways. I know my boundaries. It was already as difficult to get laid before, now with scams it has become impossible to get laid so easily even in the PH. The Scam girls have become soo bold and confident that they have started hitting on Indians as well hahaha. With model looking super gorgeous women. Like the one posted here paranoidprincess. Hahaha want to bet.

Earlier, I never used to get super gorgeous women hitting on me. Now I get 5-6 messages a day. Hehehehe. Yeah good try. And the scams have become subtle too. Like the most gorgeous women on sites are always in MILF zone areas of Mindanao, because they know most would be too scared to travel there. So all they ask is for travel fare and they will come to Manila just to be with you. This is the scam I really believe the french guy fell for. And strangely, they never have cams or can't even call them but we can text them all we want.

The other scams are mobile load scam or taxi fare scam or hungry food scam if you are in Manila. So you get hit 3-4 thousand pesos. If you abroad. They will take you for cleaners. 5000 to 10, 000 dollars in a six months period.

90% of the guys are from west on online dating sites in Asia and I'm sure, many are getting cleaned up. As they say. There is born every minute. And you guys can't wait to give away your big charitable heart for that lovely asian ass in a third world country. I'm from a third world country and I have seen poverty. India is way poorer than PH. And your honey money is not helping any poor people in PH. So STOP f*Cking sending money to online dating girls.

You are ruining it for everyone else. As we Indians do in Pattaya sharing one drinks and girls with friends. See how crap that is for you. It feels the same for me. When you guys are becoming freeloader banks for these scam girls. Now I'm having really hard time judging who is right and who is wroung. I'm wasting considerable amount of time to weed out between good and bad.

There are so much valuable info from western guys in these forums like DragonSlayer, Cunning Stunt, choca monger, red kilt, X men, D cups, westcoasts, frebie fan. Etc. Who have been here for ever. But you newbie guys won't take that advice and read atleast 10 pages of ISG before landing in PH. You just think you have dollars and that will win. Guess what. The tables have turned. Instead of you being a butterfly to them. You are their cash cow. They milk you everyday and you don't even know it. Untill, they have sucked you dry.

The online dating scene has become horrible in PH, if it continues this way. In couple of years. I may have to go back using my hand again.

P. S No racial tone meant saying white guys. But who are Senior members in PH forum and lived in PH long enough know that most english speaking asian dating sites are frequented by western men. Are the number 1 victims of scams as well.

Bloomberg
11-04-11, 11:58
I recently joined DIA and other dating sites after a gap and the number of scams have gone up ten fold compared to couple of years back. Now I know why the french guy went bonkers at the airport for his gf not showing up. Thanks to the white guys who can't seem to keep their small head in the pants for long. They are ruining it for everyone else. The new white guy is impatient, unreasonable, illogical to say the least. Think before you act. They never heard about it. They would easily give in for a sight of tits or now even legs and tongue or whatever.

Lets get this a balanced perspective. I"m an Indian and as you all know. Indians are not the most preferred choice for dating in South East Asia or frankly anywhere on earth with all our smelly curry ways. I know my boundaries. It was already as difficult to get laid before, now with scams it has become impossible to get laid so easily even in the PH. The Scam girls have become soo bold and confident that they have started hitting on Indians as well hahaha. With model looking super gorgeous women. Like the one posted here paranoidprincess. Hahaha want to bet.

Earlier, I never used to get super gorgeous women hitting on me. Now I get 5-6 messages a day. Hehehehe. Yeah good try. And the scams have become subtle too. Like the most gorgeous women on sites are always in MILF zone areas of Mindanao, because they know most would be too scared to travel there. So all they ask is for travel fare and they will come to Manila just to be with you. This is the scam I really believe the french guy fell for. And strangely, they never have cams or can't even call them but we can text them all we want.

The other scams are mobile load scam or taxi fare scam or hungry food scam if you are in Manila. So you get hit 3-4 thousand pesos. If you abroad. They will take you for cleaners. 5000 to 10, 000 dollars in a six months period.

90% of the guys are from west on online dating sites in Asia and I'm sure, many are getting cleaned up. As they say. There is born every minute. And you guys can't wait to give away your big charitable heart for that lovely asian ass in a third world country. I'm from a third world country and I have seen poverty. India is way poorer than PH. And your honey money is not helping any poor people in PH. So STOP f*Cking sending money to online dating girls.

You are ruining it for everyone else. As we Indians do in Pattaya sharing one drinks and girls with friends. See how crap that is for you. It feels the same for me. When you guys are becoming freeloader banks for these scam girls. Now I'm having really hard time judging who is right and who is wroung. I'm wasting considerable amount of time to weed out between good and bad.

There are so much valuable info from western guys in these forums like DragonSlayer, Cunning Stunt, choca monger, red kilt, X men, D cups, westcoasts, frebie fan. Etc. Who have been here for ever. But you newbie guys won't take that advice and read atleast 10 pages of ISG before landing in PH. You just think you have dollars and that will win. Guess what. The tables have turned. Instead of you being a butterfly to them. You are their cash cow. They milk you everyday and you don't even know it. Untill, they have sucked you dry.

The online dating scene has become horrible in PH, if it continues this way. In couple of years. I may have to go back using my hand again.

P. S No racial tone meant saying white guys. But who are Senior members in PH forum and lived in PH long enough know that most english speaking asian dating sites are frequented by western men. Are the number 1 victims of scams as well.Being one of the newbies and a white guy I need to react on this one. I am in the Philippines for the first time and started out a couple of weeks before arrival via the dating sites. Now I am here for about 2 months and I found better ways to meet nice girls, especially in the provinces. When I use a dating site, I immediately block girls who ask me for money. I cannot comment on the fact that the number of online scammers is increasing since I am in this world for only a short period of time but I found out that quite a few of the girls on the online dating sites will ask for money the first time you chat with them. Obviously this approach must be working for them otherwise they would have given up already (well that is what my western mind is telling me).

For sure I don't know how it is for an Indian guy to get a nice girl here but for me, an average looking white guy in his thirties, it is a piece of cake although it is a bit of a hit and miss game. But I like the process, so I don't mind talking to someone for 5 minutes and then founding out that she is not interested. I am sure that if you dress nice look clean a lot of girls are interested in guys from other races as well, I met a black guy who is having the time of his life here.

One thing I want to share is the ways I found girls so far with my experience, maybe Starchild2012 can use this and have more fun in the Philippines.

1) Dating sites like DIA, CB, PK, lot of girls ask for money right away but quite a few can result in good sex without paying more than lunch and some taxi money. Especially in Manila I met a few goodies who I met several times and when I return I think to meet them again.

2) Social network sites like Facebook and Tagged, kind of the same as dating sites, it requires more time in the beginning but opens up a huge pool of girls if you include all their friends. Just set up an account and give it a try and filter out the ones who start asking for money right away.

3) Shopping malls, here I focus on the sales ladies and not on the girls walking around trying to make eye contact since most of these girls are (semi-) professionals I think and I prefer "normal" girls.

4) Busses and jeepneys, just make eye contact, smile and see what happens from there on. This is working surprisingly well after I left the cities and visited smaller places like Dumaguete, Iloilo, Ormoc etc. Just have some questions ready like which bus to take, where to have something small to eat, where to buy a drink, where to buy phone load etc. Most of the girls are very willing to help and you can tell by the body language soon enough if they are interested in more than that. One thing I learned is that it is better to approach girls who are alone instead of two girls or more. Also doing this with a girl who is together with a guy is not a good idea.

5) Shops in the smaller cities and villages, the girls working there can be really fun to spend time with and you can find a lot who are willing to meet after work. Just look at the fruit stalls, pharmacies, bakeries, etc. Just be careful with really small villages since everyone knows everyone there. Also it is handy to have a motorbike to move around and pick up the girl.

As you can see there are more ways to find nice girls than by only using dating sites. Scammers look for areas where the number of potential victims is high so if you can avoid these place (dating sites, tourist areas in Manila and Cebu, Angeles city) this is still a place where you can find a lot of hot willing young girls who love to give you a good work-out.

I would love to hear from other members who are using other places / means to find girls.

Cheers,

Bloomberg

Radical Guy
11-04-11, 20:43
Plump with decent tits in Angeles.

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5450903698

She is waiting for you D Cups.That girl is really delicious looking. Yes, I like a nice skinny spinner, but those sexy plumpish girls really make my mouth water too!

RG

FurryFriend
11-04-11, 22:43
90% of the guys are from west on online dating sites in Asia and I'm sure, many are getting cleaned up. As they say. There is born every minute. And you guys can't wait to give away your big charitable heart for that lovely asian ass in a third world country. I'm from a third world country and I have seen poverty. India is way poorer than PH. And your honey money is not helping any poor people in PH. So STOP f*Cking sending money to online dating girls.

You are ruining it for everyone else.Honestly, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. But I'll assume the latter.

C'mon, stop blaming Western guys. Older white guys have been the scamming Pinay's cash cow for decades. It's just the internet and dating sites have made scamming more international and efficient in recent years.

Keep in mind the Koreans are dropping major bank in Angeles City and increasingly in Cebu and Manila. It has gotten to the point where Philippine tourist police are learning Korean. As Asia becomes more propserous, you will see guys from rich Pacific Rim countries becoming more "preferred" by scammers, legit pros and legit non-pros seeking marriage. Most Filipinas live in poverty and they're simply going where the money is.

I do have to say, one good thing about most Asian mongers is, they may drop huge wads of cash for sex, but they rarely Western Union money from far away simply out of compassion. Nevertheless, because it only takes a few clicks of the mouse, scammers will try their luck on fleeceing Asians too.

Ultimately, like shopping for anything else, it's the consumer who needs to use his brains instead of his penis and not be so impatient or trusting. When I was in Cebu last month, I've learned that dating sites are insanely inefficient in meeting girls. But as long as you follow simple tips, like never sending money from far away, you will NEVER be victim of a scam. Whenever I hear about a guy getting cleaned out or the women who runs once she gets her American visa, my sympathy is never with the guy. Bad consumer choices lead to bad experiences.

I like the tips Bloomberg gave. And I'll add another. Never have long chats and webcam sessions with the ladies. The longer you chat, the likelier they'll ask for money. Even legit ones will get tempted to ask once she feels comfortable with you. The web cam should only be for verifying her appearance. Once you do, log off and invite her to meet in-person once you've landed in the Philippines.

Member #4491
11-04-11, 23:12
I recently joined DIA.I never had this problem really but I see an increase in people adding me only to pretend they are horny and wanting me click on a link, register my credit card "for age verification" and then see then undress. This is the web sites behind these campings that are injecting new money into these annoyingly unintelligent recruitment attempts.

Being extremely white I find it odd that you Starchild as an Indian are targeted for scam attempts so often, while I have virtually non asking me for money on chats or other social media. Is it perhaps the other way around? Some newly rich Indian dudes trying to qualify for some quality pinay pussy, thus sending money, creating a name for Indians as the new golden calf to milk. Pinays are IMHO rather inclined to categorize, and I find it unlikely that they would consider all men similar instead of generalizing in the good old pinay fashion."Americans are like this","Indians are like that", and so on. If a friend got money from a German once and an aunt has a German husband who sent the family money for a pig roast one Christmas, the girl will most certainly believe in the existence of statistical support for all Germans being generous. Or as one girl exhorted in her DIA profile: "No way to Norway man".

Should worst comes to worst I guess our monger aid could always be redirected to the poor parts of India instead. Hell, I always did find Indian girls either extremely ugly or incredibly f*cking astonishingly beautiful. Few are in between these two extremes. I still always look for Indian girls in for example Singapore and so far only had one with the Indian look.

But being one of the suckers that fell for the "my baby is starving"-story once (or maybe even twice) , I agree. Us whities often needs to harden up, learn from our eastern brothers and stop trying to qualify for females all the time. It is a cultural brain wash to consider yourself inferior to the female, thus always trying to deserve her beaver. But I can assure all you virgin mongers in doubt. It can be washed away by persistent and frequent pussy pounding in any poor and many times dishearteningly unequal country. Look at Barba's steep development curve from well shaved romantic Casanova to nihilistic pervo.

B.

Member #4491
11-05-11, 02:43
Challenging (and most profitable way) is to write up some equations that indicate a trend, and follow trend as long as it hasn't gone stale, as determined by other equations. Do not try to invest based purely on purchasing power parity or debt / deficit levels. That way leads to one's own deficit or debt. If you watch it long enough, you will find patterns.I am still trying to decrypt this, and at the same time notice that trade is just +-0 for me normally. I make good money in one end to lose it on some other dive somewhere. My work serves me good with a stable income that allows me to care for my responsibilities, save and travel. But where to save is the big question. Maybe just buying some houses as a friend retired in Cebu did. Or just waste it all on pussy and make new money as I go. This trading charade is not for me I think, not unless I stop doing what I make money from now, only to dive into trade and transactions instead. Doubt that the result will be any better then the current work.

B.

Starchild2012
11-05-11, 09:25
Being one of the newbies and a white guy I need to react on this one. I am in the Philippines for the first time and started out a couple of weeks before arrival via the dating sites. Now I am here for about 2 months and I found better ways to meet nice girls, especially in the provinces. When I use a dating site, I immediately block girls who ask me for money. I cannot comment on the fact that the number of online scammers is increasing since I am in this world for only a short period of time but I found out that quite a few of the girls on the online dating sites will ask for money the first time you chat with them. Obviously this approach must be working for them otherwise they would have given up already (well that is what my western mind is telling me).All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.

http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994

It began as usual. She wrote in the profile she is from Manila, when I said I'm too, she said now she has gone to the province to be with her mom and then began the usual back and forth drama. How she lost her mobile and she is poor but she like me very much and she will switch on the cam later as her mom is sitting with her. I knew it was a scam but went in anyway.

I decided to fish and went over board in saying, that I will send her money to come to manila and I'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. She was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in Manila.

Leilany delos Reyes

6035 Tatalon st ugong valenzuala city.

Manila.

Her yahoo I'd khazzie888.

She was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. I fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm. Finally, I said. My Filipino friends from QC are coming directly to her home to give money in hand as you have not received it yet. She started to panic. I opened her up and threaten to visit her home. Her last message was. I just had the fake I'd. Ok bye.

I saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. What more can we do but to warn others. If I go to Valenzuela to confront her. I will return in a body bag LOL.


Honestly, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. But I'll assume the latter.

C'mon, stop blaming Western guys. Older white guys have been the scamming Pinay's cash cow for decades. It's just the internet and dating sites have made scamming more international and efficient in recent years.I agree. More and more scammer don't see any distinction anymore. They are after everyone now a days.


Being extremely white I find it odd that you Starchild as an Indian are targeted for scam attempts so often, while I have virtually non asking me for money on chats or other social media. Is it perhaps the other way around? Some newly rich Indian dudes trying to qualify for some quality pinay pussy, thus sending money, creating a name for Indians as the new golden calf to milk. Pinays are IMHO rather inclined to categorize, and I find it unlikely that they would consider all men similar instead of generalizing in the good old pinay fashion."Americans are like this","Indians are like that", and so on. If a friend got money from a German once and an aunt has a German husband who sent the family money for a pig roast one Christmas, the girl will most certainly believe in the existence of statistical support for all Germans being generous. Or as one girl exhorted in her DIA profile: "No way to Norway man".

B.Yep. It could be that. Never thought like that way. More and more Indians are traveling to south east Asia and feeling it easy to get laid and in process getting cleaned up as well. I think Indians are more vulnerable in that, they know english as well, so chatting won't be an issue unlike for koreans and japanese folks. So ya Indians are also the easy target now a days. Thanks

Bloomberg
11-05-11, 14:39
Never have long chats and webcam sessions with the ladies. The longer you chat, the likelier they'll ask for money. Even legit ones will get tempted to ask once she feels comfortable with you. The web cam should only be for verifying her appearance. Once you do, log off and invite her to meet in-person once you've landed in the Philippines.Totally agree with this, keep it short and simple and only decide to invest your time and perhaps some money once you have met the lady in person.

FurryFriend
11-05-11, 23:08
I knew it was a scam but went in anyway.

I decided to fish and went over board in saying, that I will send her money to come to manila and I'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. She was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in Manila.

She was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. I fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm.This reminds of something I've been planning on doing.

There is an online vigilante community called scambaiters. Scambaiters would go onto dating websites hoping to attract scammers. If he encounters a scammer, he would pretend to give money. But in reality, he would try wasting as much of her time and resources as possible. Often, he would make her do ridiculous things like get her to take unflattering photos of herself or get her on a wild goose chase to get the money. Sounds very much like what you did.

Most of the time, scambaiters do it simply to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the girl hoping it would deter her from scamming others. But sometimes, he would collect personal data and turn them into her local authorities.

Scambaiting started in the mid 90s in response to those innocuous Nigerian bank scams. In one famous case that appeared in newspapers, a scambaiter was able to get some Nigerian scammers to act in a YouTube video for some "film audition". The scamabaiter had convinced them that he's a film director.

Not only is scambaiting a way to turn the tables on the scammers, but I can see how it'd be quite entertaining. A month ago, I signed up on 419 Eater (www.419eater.com) , an online scambaiter community. You can easily find other communities by doing a Google search.

GregLondon
11-05-11, 23:16
i heard from one of my phil friends of a foreign friend of her bf who has suffered the classic scam in the last few days. to make sure people are on their guard i think its worth giving some details.

us guys starts chatting to babe on one of one of the dating sites. she claims she's 18.

she turns up at his hotel with her "aunty". aunty assures him she is 18 and leaves them both.

10 minutes later her "dad" turns up accompanied by 5 police guys. says she is really 17 and has consequently been "raped".

to cut a long story short he avoids a trip to jail by paying p12k + p15k fee for a lawyer.

now left phil vowing never to return.

take care guys.

Mr Enternational
11-05-11, 23:55
All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed.You are a bad man Starchild. Good job!

Starchild2012
11-06-11, 04:07
This reminds of something I've been planning on doing.

There is an online vigilante community called scambaiters. Scambaiters would go onto dating websites hoping to attract scammers. If he encounters a scammer, he would pretend to give money. But in reality, he would try wasting as much of her time and resources as possible. Often, he would make her do ridiculous things like get her to take unflattering photos of herself or get her on a wild goose chase to get the money. Sounds very much like what you did.

Most of the time, scambaiters do it simply to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the girl hoping it would deter her from scamming others. But sometimes, he would collect personal data and turn them into her local authorities.

Scambaiting started in the mid 90s in response to those innocuous Nigerian bank scams. In one famous case that appeared in newspapers, a scambaiter was able to get some Nigerian scammers to act in a YouTube video for some "film audition". The scamabaiter had convinced them that he's a film director.

Not only is scambaiting a way to turn the tables on the scammers, but I can see how it'd be quite entertaining. A month ago, I signed up on 419 Eater (

www.419eater.com

) , an online scambaiter community. You can easily find other communities by doing a Google search.Thanks for the info. Yeah. It will act as a deterrent to easily scam good guys.

Starchild2012
11-06-11, 04:19
You are a bad man Starchild. Good job!As she came back to her old ways the very next day. I think I let her out easily. It did not had any effects on her. Next time. She won't be soo lucky LOL. And also it seems to be a good way to kill time ...:)

Sammon
11-06-11, 17:01
i heard from one of my phil friends of a foreign friend of her bf who has suffered the classic scam in the last few days. to make sure people are on their guard i think its worth giving some details.

us guys starts chatting to babe on one of one of the dating sites. she claims she's 18.

she turns up at his hotel with her "aunty". aunty assures him she is 18 and leaves them both.

10 minutes later her "dad" turns up accompanied by 5 police guys. says she is really 17 and has consequently been "raped".

to cut a long story short he avoids a trip to jail by paying p12k + p15k fee for a lawyer.

now left phil vowing never to return.

take care guys.i guess this guy got off really cheap with a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge with "****". maybe she is not **** after all.

if you are not sure of the age ask the hotel security to check. never entertain anybody with a auntie tagging along.

this visit to cebu i met a fellow american guy at the casino. his story is that he came to phi long time ago started living with a girl and had a child. when he wanted to go back to usa for a visit his gf filed a police complaint saying this guy may never return and suing for child support. so he was arrested and put in jail. at trial his passport was confirep001ed and he was asked to post $3000 dollars bond which he did. $2000 dollars bond was only for his release from jail and release of his passport. the case is still in court after 3 years and he is stuck. the story is from his present gf is that he is not blacklisted by nbi and can fly out. he does not want to loose the $3000.

he said he really took care of the girl and the baby very well and all he wanted is to visit usa and go back staying with her. obviously she had another local bf. now he is fighting through the court and court is very very slow. his gf says the baby is not his and the tests show it. however the court is saying since she lived with him and took care of him the girl deserves compensation which is yet to be determined. child support case has turned out to be co habitation support case. i did not know if you live with a phi girl long time she can sue you for compensation. i can understand if a child fathered by the person involved.

maybe some members can really enlighten this aspect of phi law if it is true.

moral of the story is never make a baby with the girl and stay in the country too long. justce system is really screwed up.

Frenzy3
11-06-11, 17:51
Big mistake living with a girl and her having a baby while they are under the same roof. The courts are slow as they just want to see how much he will offer. The know he had $3000.

That's the thing about this place stuff like this happens all the time not every one posts here and it never makes the news.

The place is all about money and jealousy. They even export jealousy and import money.

Chocha Monger
11-06-11, 18:09
i guess this guy got off really cheap with a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge with "****". maybe she is not **** after all.

if you are not sure of the age ask the hotel security to check. never entertain anybody with a auntie tagging along.

this visit to cebu i met a fellow american guy at the casino. his story is that he came to phi long time ago started living with a girl and had a child. when he wanted to go back to usa for a visit his gf filed a police complaint saying this guy may never return and suing for child support. so he was arrested and put in jail. at trial his passport was confirep001ed and he was asked to post $3000 dollars bond which he did. $2000 dollars bond was only for his release from jail and release of his passport. the case is still in court after 3 years and he is stuck. the story is from his present gf is that he is not blacklisted by nbi and can fly out. he does not want to loose the $3000.

he said he really took care of the girl and the baby very well and all he wanted is to visit usa and go back staying with her. obviously she had another local bf. now he is fighting through the court and court is very very slow. his gf says the baby is not his and the tests show it. however the court is saying since she lived with him and took care of him the girl deserves compensation which is yet to be determined. child support case has turned out to be co habitation support case. i did not know if you live with a phi girl long time she can sue you for compensation. i can understand if a child fathered by the person involved.

maybe some members can really enlighten this aspect of phi law if it is true.

moral of the story is never make a baby with the girl and stay in the country too long. justce system is really screwed up.under article 147 of the family code your live-in fucklet has the right to sue for compensation. even in the philippines there is no such thing as "free" poo-say if the girl and her family decides to make you pay for your forwardness. see article 147 of the family code below:

"art. 147. when a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.

in the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. for purposes of this article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former's efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household."

BionicMan
11-06-11, 18:22
All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.

http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994

ThanksShe is not fully cheating, she declares in her occupation "bank, finance, real estate" ROLF, so she must have collected quite some money from punters! LOL

WestCoast1
11-06-11, 19:33
Under Article 147 of the Family Code your live-in fucklet has the right to sue for compensation. Even in the Philippines there is no such thing as "free" poo-say if the girl and her family decides to make you pay for your forwardness. See Article 147 of the Family Code below:

"Art. 147. When a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.

In the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. For purposes of this Article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former's efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household."Thanks CM. Great information to have.

WC

GoodEnough
11-06-11, 23:56
This is a great series of posts that all newbies should read before getting on a plane to come here. It wouldn't hurt some of the more experienced guys to read these either. The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better. It's got no rule of law, and it rates at or near the top of every corruption index published for the past several years. If that's not enough to make foreigners extremely wary, then they must be blinded by the apparent accessibility of all the young, nubile stuff floating around.

The fact is though, that even living here and being aware of all of the potential scams, and all of the corruption, there's no foolproof way of avoiding becoming a victim other than to strike the country from your list of destinationns. There's simply no total indemnity for anyone.

GE

GregLondon
11-07-11, 01:01
i guess this guy got off really cheap with a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge with "****". maybe she is not **** after all.

if you are not sure of the age ask the hotel security to check. never entertain anybody with a auntie tagging along.i agree that he should probably regard p12k+p15k legal as a lucky escape. from what i have heard p40k is more likely if he gets taken down to the police station. i suspect it.

is all a question of the maximum they think they can get away with. they may have been reluctant to take him to the police station because the girl wasn't really 17 as you suggest or they may just have figured that it would involve sharing the proceeds with more voracious mouths.

the point for people to remember is that what really happened in this type of situation is to a large extent irrelevant. it's a question of what the girl can semi credibly say has happened as the police and any one else who gets involved will just see it as an opportunity for another payday.

FurryFriend
11-07-11, 05:34
This is a great series of posts that all newbies should read before getting on a plane to come here. It wouldn't hurt some of the more experienced guys to read these either. The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better. It's got no rule of law, and it rates at or near the top of every corruption index published for the past several years. If that's not enough to make foreigners extremely wary, then they must be blinded by the apparent accessibility of all the young, nubile stuff floating around.The country is indeed a cesspool of corruption and poverty. But that's not the only reason why so many fall into scams.

Another factor is the monger himself. In the Philippines, it's easy to confuse attention with attraction. Many guys there get tons of text messages and DIA contacts and it's easy for him (especially newbies) to become overconfident in his looks or demeanor. He hears stories about how girls love foreign guys...about how local Pinoys are scummy, unromantic and abusive. With an inflated ego, he now thinks he's Mr Brad Pitt who knows how to treat girls right and that the girls genuinely care for him. In truth, most girls really see him as just another dumbass ATM machine. He's not going to suspect anything until the cops show up to make a withdrawal.

Visitors need to accept the fact that there is significant risk in being a sex tourist in the Philippines, especially involving girls under 21 years old. You can mitigate your risk by sticking to large bars in Angeles City and Manila. Think of the higher barfines as an insurance premium.

Red Kilt
11-07-11, 05:49
I had a message today from a girl on DIA (33 year old) who had seen my profile on DIA.

HER: "Hi. I hope we can meet sometime. I like to meet you for some fun but I hope you will reward me as it is my only way to earn cash. Here is my CP number and my YM address"

ME: "Well sure. Let's meet next time I am in (name of city)".

HER: "I am looking forward to meeting you soon and have a good fuck"

I wonder how many guys are on her "to do" list?

Kizaat
11-07-11, 11:29
Hi, new here, a lot interesting reports and advice.

I see most people mention DIA has any body used Find Love Asia in the same way, any comment would be appreciated, cheer.

GregLondon
11-07-11, 11:43
The country is indeed a cesspool of corruption and poverty. But that's not the only reason why so many fall into scams.

Another factor is the monger himself. In the Philippines, it's easy to confuse attention with attraction. Many guys there get tons of text messages and DIA contacts and it's easy for him (especially newbies) to become overconfident in his looks or demeanor. He hears stories about how girls love foreign guys. About how local Pinoys are scummy, unromantic and abusive. With an inflated ego, he now thinks he's Mr Brad Pitt who knows how to treat girls right and that the girls genuinely care for him. In truth, most girls really see him as just another dumbass ATM machine. He's not going to suspect anything until the cops show up to make a withdrawal.

Visitors need to accept the fact that there is significant risk in being a sex tourist in the Philippines, especially involving girls under 21 years old. You can mitigate your risk by sticking to large bars in Angeles City and Manila. Think of the higher barfines as an insurance premium.I certainly think on needs to be extra cautious with DIA girls who give their age as 18. In the Phils many girls will describe themselves as 18 when what they mean is "running 18" ie 17 now and 18 next birthday. As has been said many times before having anything to do with girls under 18 is completely opening yourself up to the mercy of the Phils police-legal system the main purpose of which is to extort as much money as possible from anyone who can be accused of transgressing any law.

Member #4491
11-07-11, 13:53
Visitors need to accept the fact that there is significant risk in being a sex tourist in the Philippines, especially involving girls under 21 years old. You can mitigate your risk by sticking to large bars in Angeles City and Manila. Think of the higher barfines as an insurance premium.I can only agree. Anyone that ventures out of Angeles and Manila is in fact balancing on the edge of his stay out of jail-card. It is just not worth the risk. Good we all focus on the risks. I think it is safer to stay at home and jerk off before we turn on the TV, but IF that is not an option one should always stick to paths well tramped by other risk takers / maniacs.

Yesterday there was a wasp flying by me INSIDE my house, even if it is November. I realized how fragile life is. If that wasp stung me, and I turned out to be violently allergic, I could have died there on the floor. Scary. Makes me shiver still.

B.

Red Kilt
11-08-11, 02:51
Hi, new here, a lot interesting reports and advice.

I see most people mention DIA has any body used Find Love Asia in the same way, any comment would be appreciated, cheer.Waste of time for me.

Almost all women on that site are seeking marriage.

My profile specifically says "not looking for a wife", and it did not get any takers.

The same profile on DIA gets 10 hits each day.

Toronto
11-08-11, 03:06
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214954]Waste of time for me.

QUOTE]

Agreed. Tried for a few days for my last visit. One of them even suggested I come over to her house / shack to meet the whole fam for the first "date". Did not bother to continue with that site after couple of days and had much better luck with Pinalove.

Cunning Stunt
11-08-11, 08:21
The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better.Funnily enough, I read yesterday that The Philippines is ranked No 8 in the world for gender equality, well above other Asian countries. Maybe one of the ranking parameters is 'ability of the female to screw the male', something Pinays are famously adept at.

FreebieFan
11-08-11, 10:32
Funnily enough, I read yesterday that The Philippines is ranked No 8 in the world for gender equality, well above other Asian countries. Maybe one of the ranking parameters is 'ability of the female to screw the male', something Pinays are famously adept at.Shock, horror, how cynical some readers are. Filipinas are really sweet. You mean we don't all share the same opinion about these butter wouldn't melt in their mouth lasses?

Red Kilt
11-08-11, 11:30
Funnily enough, I read yesterday that The Philippines is ranked No 8 in the world for gender equality, well above other Asian countries. Maybe one of the ranking parameters is 'ability of the female to screw the male', something Pinays are famously adept at.I chuckled when I read this in the newspaper too CS. Newshounds clutch desperately at any thing which shows the Phils in a positive light (it is why Manny Pacquiao is so revered and treated like a God, even if he is a midget boxer).

It's called 'fiddling with numbers" and the index uses quite strange indicators to rank countries.

From my experience the Philippines is a very long way behind, for example, Australia in gender equity in the factors that impinge on my daily life and in my work. Another interesting thing is that boys are performing way below girls on almost all school indicators and there will need to be some drastic action taken to correct this imbalance soon.

Member #4643
11-08-11, 15:49
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214954]Waste of time for me.

QUOTE]

Agreed. Tried for a few days for my last visit. One of them even suggested I come over to her house / shack to meet the whole fam for the first "date". Did not bother to continue with that site after couple of days and had much better luck with Pinalove.For those of us who are simply looking for GFE sex, and not marriage, what do you experts think the best sites are other than DIA? I have tried Filipinacupid. Com and get far too many hits from the ladies. But I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk (also, its a pay site, so until I am certain it is worthwhile, I cannot see paying).

Member #4351
11-08-11, 16:24
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1214957]I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcukI wonder why? There obviously must be something wrong with them.

X Man
11-08-11, 16:52
I was attacked by a cockroach just the other day!


I can only agree. Anyone that ventures out of Angeles and Manila is in fact balancing on the edge of his stay out of jail-card. It is just not worth the risk. Good we all focus on the risks. I think it is safer to stay at home and jerk off before we turn on the TV, but IF that is not an option one should always stick to paths well tramped by other risk takers / maniacs.

Yesterday there was a wasp flying by me INSIDE my house, even if it is November. I realized how fragile life is. If that wasp stung me, and I turned out to be violently allergic, I could have died there on the floor. Scary. Makes me shiver still.

B.

Sammon
11-08-11, 17:13
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1214957]For those of us who are simply looking for GFE sex, and not marriage, what do you experts think the best sites are other than DIA? I have tried Filipinacupid. Com and get far too many hits from the ladies. But I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk (also, its a pay site, so until I am certain it is worthwhile, I cannot see paying).They are looking for nice meal, soft bed, air-con and a hard fuck. Do not believe them when they say they are looking for marriage. That is the mantra they tell to everyone before hard fuck.

They are certainly looking for a sponsor who will support them if not marriage. They know very well that very few encounters result in marriage or sponsorship. If they line up enough sponsors their life is made atleast for a short while.

Experiences if you decide to meet varies from dud or a delight and anywhere in between. Ofcourse money is always involved unless you con her into believing you are going for long term relationship including marriage.

Very rarely you will find somebody who will fuck your brains out with no money.

Member #4491
11-08-11, 18:10
[QUOTE=Forest; 1215129]They are looking for nice meal, soft bed, air-con and a hard fuck. Do not believe them when they say they are looking for marriage. That is the mantra they tell to everyone before hard fuck.Could not agree more. I am looking for unlimited wealth when I work, but I will settle for a decent salary.

Often naive and childish minds are filling these profiles with data that reflect their ideal scenario, but also these girls knows that life is a constant trade off.

Forest; DIA, Tagged, Facebook, etc. Just hit the free social forums and free sites like DIA, and you will soon have more jugs than you can juggle in a couple of weeks. If you still don not find anyone open minded enough, you can always tell the girls that you just got out of a relation and are not ready to get serious, but that you still want to meet a girlfriend (we are talking about the wider, Asian / Latin / African definition of "girlfriend" here).

X Man, that is horrible. These animals will cause infections and limbs can fall off. You should immediately head for Angeles. If you are there already, you should get on the first banana boat home where there are no, or at least fewer, cockroaches. I am masturbating in a wet suit at the moment. This feels safe for now.

Barba

Cunning Stunt
11-09-11, 08:19
I was attacked by a cockroach just the other day!Are you sure that it wasn't making a move on you?

Cunning Stunt
11-09-11, 13:30
Watch those DIA profiles guys for if you didn't already know, they lie like a 50 peso Baclaran watch. Just come across one from a wild. 3 holer with whom I enjoyed several great sessions earlier this year. She was 2 months pregnant at this point by her British boyfriend. After ditching her, I apparently metamorphosed into a 24/7 textmate agony aunt and putative (and happily eternally offline) ATM machine.

She is back home in Mindanao now, chastened and sans boyfriend (did one!) but with an infant child. And her profile is so full of 'simple woman looking for a good man' crap that would melt even Chocha Mongers steely old heart. She is an intelligent (graduate) and fine looking woman so some poor mug is bound to fall for the damsel in distress line and, unaware of her chequered past, will marry her and scoot her off to Dreamsville, Ohio. Here he will quickly discover that far from being simple, she is in fact a manipulative, scheming ***** who only cares for the filthy lucre and will proceed to clinically bleed him dry. Good luck to her (and more to him who is blissfully unaware of the relentless train wreck bearing down on him).

We are all big boys here so I am not going to identify her but here is a photo of her in pre-stretchmark days.

Member #4643
11-09-11, 14:08
I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk.
I wonder why? There obviously must be something wrong with them.David's sarcasm aside, I like the semi-pros and the "non-pros" the best and I am continuously looking for this type. I am not foolish enough to believe that a 21 year old girl who wants me for a lover has no financial motivation.

Tagged has always worked well for Dominican girls, so I guess it is even more likely to work well in the Philippines.

X Man
11-09-11, 14:58
Cockroaches in Japan can fly, at least when they are small. Then the Godzilla gene kicks in and they get huge. But not the wasy CS depicts. Is that a UK roach in the picture? Well, you must be happy that at least one UK species has above average endowment.


Are you sure that it wasn't making a move on you?

TurdyCurdyOne
11-10-11, 06:33
This is a great series of posts that all newbies should read before getting on a plane to come here. It wouldn't hurt some of the more experienced guys to read these either. The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better. It's got no rule of law, and it rates at or near the top of every corruption index published for the past several years. If that's not enough to make foreigners extremely wary, then they must be blinded by the apparent accessibility of all the young, nubile stuff floating around.

The fact is though, that even living here and being aware of all of the potential scams, and all of the corruption, there's no foolproof way of avoiding becoming a victim other than to strike the country from your list of destinationns. There's simply no total indemnity for anyone.

GEThanks to Chocha M. For that great quote from Flip code. Very scary and useful considering I have been thinking of shacking up with some of my chat friends.

As to the above post, I think the only way is to (when in Rome.) do as Filipinos do, be equally corrupt and insulate yourself with friends in high places. Thats how the Filipinos get out of jams, everything is based on who you know and reciprocity of favors, not on such ridiculous concepts of justice or fairness.

As to how the average Porinor is going to obtain such friends and status, your guess is as good as mine.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-10-11, 06:41
all great points thanks. something is working for the scammers. i was soo pissed yesterday. i went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. but today she is at it again. be careful.

http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showprofile/id/3677994

it began as usual. she wrote in the profile she is from manila, when i said i'm too, she said now she has gone to the province to be with her mom and then began the usual back and forth drama. how she lost her mobile and she is poor but she like me very much and she will switch on the cam later as her mom is sitting with her. i knew it was a scam but went in anyway.

i decided to fish and went over board in saying, that i will send her money to come to manila and i'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. she was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in manila.

leilany delos reyes

6035 tatalon st ugong valenzuala city.

manila.

her yahoo i'd khazzie888.

she was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. i fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm. finally, i said. my filipino friends from qc are coming directly to her home to give money in hand as you have not received it yet. she started to panic. i opened her up and threaten to visit her home. her last message was. i just had the fake i'd. ok bye.

i saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. what more can we do but to warn others. if i go to valenzuela to confront her. i will return in a body bag lol.

i agree. more and more scammer don't see any distinction anymore. they are after everyone now a days.

yep. it could be that. never thought like that way. more and more indians are traveling to south east asia and feeling it easy to get laid and in process getting cleaned up as well. i think indians are more vulnerable in that, they know english as well, so chatting won't be an issue unlike for koreans and japanese folks. so ya indians are also the easy target now a days. thankswhat i once did on chat, not with a filipina but with a nigerian broad who had some bs story and was eager to get my bank account information is that i told her i would send her money western union. just when she is ready and eager to receive the confirmation number, i'd fire up my latest yahoo booter program from a high speed network and bomb the sh*t out of her. she would then start yelling loudly "damn hackers" since her computer froze up and she had to reboot several times. i did this about 3 or 4 times before she got suspicious and then i started coming on with really raunchy sexual talk about what i expected her to do to me. i doubt though that taught her any permanent lesson and she probably continued her work from home and did not lose any chat cafe fees.

FreebieFan
11-10-11, 06:56
what i once did on chat, not with a filipina but with a nigerian broad who had some bs story and was eager to get my bank account information is that i told her i would send her money western union. just when she is ready and eager to receive the confirmation number, i'd fire up my latest yahoo booter program from a high speed network and bomb the sh*t out of her. she would then start yelling loudly "damn hackers" since her computer froze up and she had to reboot several times. i did this about 3 or 4 times before she got suspicious and then i started coming on with really raunchy sexual talk about what i expected her to do to me. i doubt though that taught her any permanent lesson and she probably continued her work from home and did not lose any chat cafe fees.lots of scambait stories, tactics and names and ids here. http://dragonladies.org/bbs/

Starchild2012
11-10-11, 12:59
what i once did on chat, not with a filipina but with a nigerian broad who had some bs story and was eager to get my bank account information is that i told her i would send her money western union. just when she is ready and eager to receive the confirmation number, i'd fire up my latest yahoo booter program from a high speed network and bomb the sh*t out of her. she would then start yelling loudly "damn hackers" since her computer froze up and she had to reboot several times. i did this about 3 or 4 times before she got suspicious and then i started coming on with really raunchy sexual talk about what i expected her to do to me. i doubt though that taught her any permanent lesson and she probably continued her work from home and did not lose any chat cafe fees.agree. i don't think they will ever learn. they have gone to the dark side so to speak. they have lost any sense of right and wrong. unless, they are put away in prison for good, they will continue to scam newbies.

Screaming Beaver
11-11-11, 03:12
All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.

http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994

I saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. What more can we do but to warn others. If I go to Valenzuela to confront her. I will return in a body bag LOL.You seem bitter. How much money did the little piglet fleece you for? Did you happen to notice the pics and profile were not consistant with a filipina living in Phils which should have made it rather obvious it was a scam? I love the pic of her driving the SUV in Texas or California. For some reason I don't see that kind of picture when I step off the plane in Manila and take a deep breath of raw sewage in the air.

Mr Enternational
11-11-11, 06:03
Did you happen to notice the pics and profile were not consistant with a filipina living in Phils which should have made it rather obvious it was a scam? I love the pic of her driving the SUV in Texas or California. For some reason I don't see that kind of picture when I step off the plane in Manila and take a deep breath of raw sewage in the air.LOL. It was the picture in back of the house that did it for me. See many of those in PI!

Starchild2012
11-11-11, 06:42
You seem bitter. How much money did the little piglet fleece you for? Did you happen to notice the pics and profile were not consistant with a filipina living in Phils which should have made it rather obvious it was a scam? I love the pic of her driving the SUV in Texas or California. For some reason I don't see that kind of picture when I step off the plane in Manila and take a deep breath of raw sewage in the air.LOL. I'm from a third world country myself, so I know many a trick that girls do to fleece men plus I have lived in the PH long enough to know the con. Yeah, the first cow boy hat pic plus others, she uploaded recently, it was not there when I chatted with her. Guess, she is becoming bolder and bolder. When I have free time, I'm itching to go on with her for another round of five hour non-sense to waste her time.

X Man
11-14-11, 15:28
Willing to be my first boyfriend.

If ever our relationship will work then we will be together forever and then we will undergo marriage

UNDERGO? Finally we find a gal who is honest. Anyone willing to undergo marriage?

Questor55
11-14-11, 18:37
Willing to be my first boyfriend.

If ever our relationship will work then we will be together forever and then we will undergo marriage

UNDERGO? Finally we find a gal who is honest. Anyone willing to undergo marriage?We are the beneficial recipients of this 'Some day my prince will come' syndrome. 'Prince' equals wealthy white foreigner. Looks. Age, personality,

All not important. How many girls have we all met who would have eagerly accepted any marriage proposal within the first hour of meeting?

Logic doesn't live in the Philippines. It's Fantasy Land.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-15-11, 06:13
We are the beneficial recipients of this 'Some day my prince will come' syndrome. 'Prince' equals wealthy white foreigner. Looks. Age, personality,

All not important. How many girls have we all met who would have eagerly accepted any marriage proposal within the first hour of meeting?

Logic doesn't live in the Philippines. It's Fantasy Land.It's not just the Phil. This is a characteristic of all women. Women are bigger bull sh*ters than men. But I think they actually believe their BS.

They take their stone cold requirements for money, prestige, power and security and bend them into words of love, romance, etc. Notice how adament so many of them are about not wanting money in their profiles?"Methinks the lad (ies) Doth protesteth too much".

They complain about what liars and dogs men are but they are worse concealing their selfish desires behind charm and guile.

Most, not all women, are like this in the USA also. It's just on a different level here.

The other very noticeable thing is what attention working girls they are. Many on DIA are just there to talk to men for pseudo-intimacy. They do not intend to marry, nor do they intend to give sex. Unless they are duely compensated in some way. They just want some new guy to talk to.

Can you imagine how many Filipino guys feel when they see Filipinas throwing themselves at foreigners and rejecting them with disdain? I imagine the same way we feel when Westernized women reject us because we don't have a nice house or high paying professional job.

Questor55
11-15-11, 07:50
Just been made aware that girls must be at least 18 to sign up for DIA. Therefore, those 16 and 17 yr. Olds who are eager to 'test the waters', start by.

Inflating their ages, (along with their chests in those triple padded bras). So that partially explains why that 20yr. Old you met may really be 17.

That's happened to me more than once. How do we spell "JAIL BAIT"?

Mr Enternational
11-15-11, 12:55
The other very noticeable thing is what attention working girls they are. Many on DIA are just there to talk to men for pseudo-intimacy. They do not intend to marry, nor do they intend to give sex. They just want some new guy to talk to.Bingo! This is true of most dating websites around the world, even the legit ones. I have been on some sites for years on and off. And I see some of the same girls there that were there years ago when I signed up. Even some that I have already been through. I don't think they do it intentionally, but it's the attention they get from so many guys that keeps them coming back and not settling down, and as you said someone new to talk to every week while they are at work or whatever.

Member #4491
11-15-11, 15:08
It's not just the Phil. This is a characteristic of all women. Women are bigger bull sh*ters than men. But I think they actually believe their BS.Todays words of wisdom! Could not agree more. Women often act from what they consider moral high ground, in order to make men feel like like they need to qualify. And as you write, they believe all of this crap. As much as I love women, I must admit that they are often first class leeches in many respects. Thousands of years rewarding conservative behavior with survival, makes them inclined to "stay in the cave" both physically and in terms of how they view themselves and any form of slightly deviant behavior. Look at a cafés in the west and see who is there, creating consensus with each other and munching away on the preys and nuts that Mr Stoneage brought home (symbolically). This evolutionary selection of conservative and consensus seeking eye servants also makes them inclined to wanting to "be good", and this can be used in the most simple punani-strategies. Make them feel good about themselves and they will throw their wet panties in your face. Give them a huge female reference group (like Brazil or even better Germany) that takes it deep down the ass, and they "will try as long as you do not tell my friends".

You can not really blame anyone for their disability to see and understand themselves, so you just got to love them, treat them good and have fun.

Do not try to qualify. Lead the way!

B.

FurryFriend
11-16-11, 05:41
It's not just the Phil. This is a characteristic of all women. Women are bigger bull sh*ters than men. But I think they actually believe their BS.

They take their stone cold requirements for money, prestige, power and security and bend them into words of love, romance, etc.If a girl genuinely believes her "BS", then it's not BS. It's only BS because you disagree with it.

Women are biologically programmed to seek high-status guys, a survival mechanism instilled over hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. When they see guys with high-status traits, their brains (programmed for survival) will release chemicals to make them feel this sensation of "love", just like guys feel it when they see an attractive women. So it's not BS.

This attraction mechanism is involuntary and subconscious. She doesn't even know it's happening. So she'll genuinely think she's attracted to a guy because of his humor, his sweetness, his looks or his education.


Can you imagine how many Filipino guys feel when they see Filipinas throwing themselves at foreigners and rejecting them with disdain?Actually, some Filipino guys who are probably laughing at us!

Hate to say this, but many P4P Filipinas have Filipino boyfriends. They go for foreigners for money. They go for Pinoys for love.


As much as I love women, I must admit that they are often first class leeches in many respects. Thousands of years rewarding conservative behavior with survival, makes them inclined to "stay in the cave" both physically and in terms of how they view themselves and any form of slightly deviant behavior.Be careful in complaining about leeching. Because if women didn't leech off men, they will need men less. The most basic exchange between men and women is love / sex for financial security.

In most parts of the Pacific Rim, there is negative population growth because women have plenty of economic opportunity. Japan has such a strong population decline rate that, at this rate, there'd be no one left in Japan in 300 years.

So I say, let them leech! You really think most young supple Filipinas would give us mongers even a second look if we had nothing to provide financially? Yes, they'll still have need for love / sex, but they'll likely seek them from young, attractive Pinoys.

Questor55
11-16-11, 09:11
At least three of my former girlfriends. Lookers all, have won the lottery and married older white guys.

One of them has filled her Facebook with hundreds of photos of her privileged new life in the USA. The

Message spreads faster than the flu in winter,"This could happen to you, too!" Almost all our eager.

Young ladies know someone who knows someone who 'hit the jackpot'. This is a major driving force that.

Motivates so many to make themselves available and provides 'lucky us' with a seemingly endless supply of nubile companions. So, to scorn those guys as being dumb pricks, is most ungracious and fails to recognize that they provide the fuel that ultimately delivers lots of these young babes to us.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-16-11, 19:08
If a girl genuinely believes her "BS", then it's not BS. It's only BS because you disagree with it.

*Sociopaths believe their BS and it IS BS.

Women are biologically programmed to seek high-status guys, a survival mechanism instilled over hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. When they see guys with high-status traits, their brains (programmed for survival) will release chemicals to make them feel this sensation of "love", just like guys feel it when they see an attractive women. So it's not BS.

*Ok if you say so. It's just a theory, there is no proof of that. If you have proof of your biological theory let's see the cites?

*<snip

Actually, some Filipino guys who are probably laughing at us!

Hate to say this, but many P4P Filipinas have Filipino boyfriends. They go for foreigners for money. They go for Pinoys for love.

*Some are no doubt, but that's not going to happen to me. Also the Filipino guys.

CLAIM that we only get the ugly ones, haha. That's more BS to soothe their wounded egos.

Be careful in complaining about leeching. Because if women didn't leech off men, they will need men less. The most basic exchange between men and women is love / sex for financial security.

*I agree with the exchange theory, but that's true in all relationships-they are based on agreeable exchanges of value. It's not just sex for financial security, it's sex for love-women want to believe they are loved; according to your theory because they are programmed to nest and keep the relationship stable for purpose of raising young and to keep the male from wandering.

In most parts of the Pacific Rim, there is negative population growth because women have plenty of economic opportunity. Japan has such a strong population decline rate that, at this rate, there'd be no one left in Japan in 300 years.

So I say, let them leech! You really think most young supple Filipinas would give us mongers even a second look if we had nothing to provide financially? Yes, they'll still have need for love / sex, but they'll likely seek them from young, attractive Pinoys.*Yes as one old rich codger said."I know she wants me for my money, but at least she WANTS me."

Kizaat
11-16-11, 20:50
Waste of time for me.

Almost all women on that site are seeking marriage.

My profile specifically says "not looking for a wife", and it did not get any takers.

The same profile on DIA gets 10 hits each day.Cheers for that Red.

Member #4491
11-16-11, 23:34
Be careful in complaining about leeching. Because if women didn't leech off men, they will need men less. The most basic exchange between men and women is love / sex for financial security.Be careful not to miss an opportunity to totally misunderstand a post.

B.

Aussie Jo
11-17-11, 02:08
At least three of my former girlfriends. Lookers all, have won the lottery and married older white guys.

One of them has filled her Facebook with hundreds of photos of her privileged new life in the USA. The

Message spreads faster than the flu in winter,"This could happen to you, too!" Almost all our eager.

Young ladies know someone who knows someone who 'hit the jackpot'. This is a major driving force that.

Motivates so many to make themselves available and provides 'lucky us' with a seemingly endless supply of nubile companions. So, to scorn those guys as being dumb pricks, is most ungracious and fails to recognize that they provide the fuel that ultimately delivers lots of these young babes to us.This kind of reminds me why western world CEOs get paid obscene amounts of money. It is NOT the extra amount of money that motivates them, but the motivating effects it has on the corporate underlings whom all aspire to the top seat. So, the success of a few Philippinos to 'hit the jackpot' motivates the remainder to work through the white visitors so that they too can dig for gold.

Actually I really appreciate your insight on this Questor55!

And in many cases, it is probably enjoyable, they get a decent bed (at least for a night) , some nice food, more than their taxi fare home AND still might be in the hunt for that overseas jackpot of lifetime income, lifetime social service, medicare etc etc. Certainly worthwhile banging a few old codgers.

Mr Enternational
11-17-11, 05:23
*Yes as one old rich codger said."I know she wants me for my money, but at least she WANTS me."Since when is fair exchange a robbery? I'm thinking when I get older it won't matter to me either. I will have all my bills paid off and won't have any responsibilities. When I die I won't be able to take anything with me. So while I'm living those last years I might as well enjoy the party. Most women are going to be with you for your money (read security) whether you are young or old. It just might be a little more apparent and in your face when you are old and they are young. The game has not changed and it never will.

Fatboy 1980
11-17-11, 07:12
So how do you guys usually go about sealing the deal? I'm going to be in Manila for a couple of days in Feb so I've already been putting out the feelers on DIA. Do you just straight out say you want money for sex, or do you meet and hope you can talk about it then?

Questor55
11-17-11, 08:10
So how do you guys usually go about sealing the deal? I'm going to be in Manila for a couple of days in Feb so I've already been putting out the feelers on DIA. Do you just straight out say you want money for sex, or do you meet and hope you can talk about it then?Sloooow way down, Fatboy! If you are going in February, then wait until a few weeks before to really put your quest into operation.

The only reason to be chatting this early is for practice at honing your 'gamer skills'. You want to avoid those long, everyday, meaningless

Chats unless you are really into self abuse. Most of us with more experience, know that filipinas usually have very short attention spans.

So, capitalize on that. Start late and build quick. And definitely DO NOT talk about cash until you meet. Even then, play it by ear.

Cash doesn't have to be the issue. Maybe you can score with a meal and taxi fare. RESEARCH HERE TO LEARN LOTS!

Sammon
11-17-11, 10:54
So how do you guys usually go about sealing the deal? I'm going to be in Manila for a couple of days in Feb so I've already been putting out the feelers on DIA. Do you just straight out say you want money for sex, or do you meet and hope you can talk about it then?You are trying to meet regular girls on DIA. Need to feel her out what she will do. Suggest getting together in your hotel. If she comes sex is kind of guaranteed. Money is not discussed with these girls. Just say you will take care of her whatever it means. But remember these girls are in it for money except rare chances she wants to make a impression looking for long time relationship and support.

You cannot treat her as a sex worker. Sometimes the girl will ask for money to meetr you. These are pros or semi pros.

Do not send any money before meeting.

X Man
11-17-11, 15:29
Short and simple advice from Sammon, but a good summary. I've had much better luck with regular women (from DIA and otherwise) outside of Manila, so good luck to the original poster.


You are trying to meet regular girls on DIA. Need to feel her out what she will do. Suggest getting together in your hotel. If she comes sex is kind of guaranteed. Money is not discussed with these girls. Just say you will take care of her whatever it means. But remember these girls are in it for money except rare chances she wants to make a impression looking for long time relationship and support.

You cannot treat her as a sex worker. Sometimes the girl will ask for money to meetr you. These are pros or semi pros.

Do not send any money before meeting.

Fatboy 1980
11-17-11, 23:06
Short and simple advice from Sammon, but a good summary. I've had much better luck with regular women (from DIA and otherwise) outside of Manila, so good luck to the original poster.Actually a couple of girls tried giving sob stories about paying for college and asked me for money. I shut that down quick, LOL. I don't have much time in Manila, so I just want a couple of sure things. I have a lot of time yet, so I'll just keep looking to see what's out there.

Red Kilt
11-18-11, 00:43
Actually a couple of girls tried giving sob stories about paying for college and asked me for money. I shut that down quick, LOL. I don't have much time in Manila, so I just want a couple of sure things. I have a lot of time yet, so I'll just keep looking to see what's out there.Those of us who live here have the luxury of time to cultivate friendships etc. You don't have that luxury so you need to concentrate on the "sure things". In your case your profile should be very direct about what you want without offending the DIA censors (some do-gooder will report you and you can get banned if you are too explicit).

You will lose a high percentage of women by your direct approach BUT you will sieve out the "sure things".

Normally I would disagree with the strategy of "inviting direct to the room" until after you have actually met them (as Sammon proposes) , but in your case, with 2 days only, you have to cut to the chase.

As others have said, don't get into the daily back & forth meaningless exchange of messages until you are closer to arrival.

Cunning Stunt
11-18-11, 03:09
You will lose a high percentage of women by your direct approach BUT you will sieve out the "sure things".I find that it is fairly easy, from a combination of the look of the profile pic and the tone of the pen picture, to interpret which girls will respond best to the direct approach and which require more subtle management. But you do get the occasional surprise. A couple of days ago, one Bulacan girl who seemed to be in the second category with a decidedly husband seeking profile, without prompting offered to come into town and let me do anything I wanted with her for 2000 pesos.


*Yes as one old rich codger said."I know she wants me for my money, but at least she WANTS me."

True love, Filipino style!

FurryFriend
11-18-11, 03:57
Actually a couple of girls tried giving sob stories about paying for college and asked me for money. I shut that down quick, LOL. I don't have much time in Manila, so I just want a couple of sure things. I have a lot of time yet, so I'll just keep looking to see what's out there.

If all you're looking for is to fuck the girl, her asking for money is actually an opportunity to open negotiations.

Otherwise, I hope you're not doing a fuck-and-run without paying.

Fatboy 1980
11-18-11, 10:05
If all you're looking for is to fuck the girl, her asking for money is actually an opportunity to open negotiations.

Otherwise, I hope you're not doing a fuck-and-run without paying.I'm not looking to break any hearts. I was thinking of just hanging out for food / drinks and an evening of fucking.

FurryFriend
11-18-11, 12:46
I'm not looking to break any hearts. I was thinking of just hanging out for food / drinks and an evening of fucking.That's cool. Of course, the monger's code is never to pretend to want a relationship only to fuck the girl. So it may not be a bad thing if she brings up money upfront.

X Man
11-18-11, 15:53
Monger's code? WTF?

Can you send me a pdf file of the complete code? X.


That's cool. Of course, the monger's code is never to pretend to want a relationship only to fuck the girl. So it may not be a bad thing if she brings up money upfront.

FurryFriend
11-18-11, 21:50
Monger's code? WTF?

Can you send me a pdf file of the complete code? X.It's in the online PDF library, next to the article about how to compose a rational argument.

Too bad you didn't read that one either.

Mr Enternational
11-19-11, 04:53
that's cool. of course, the monger's code is never to pretend to want a relationship only to fuck the girl.i thought the monger's code was to say or do whatever you have to in order to get the pussy ([CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) excluded) ; even if it means paying cold hard cash.

DriveAllNight
11-19-11, 05:30
i thought the monger's code was to say or do whatever you have to in order to get the pussy ([CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) excluded) ; even if it means paying cold hard cash.the monger's code is what you punch into the atm at edsa, i thought.

Frenzy3
11-19-11, 06:26
Monger's code? WTF?

Can you send me a pdf file of the complete code? X.You can read it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning#Miranda_rights

Fatboy 1980
11-19-11, 07:47
http://www.dateinasia.com/camgirl.ella.html

Wants $50 to do a cam show. I'm not that desperate though. Hehe

X Man
11-19-11, 15:59
Furry friend, I don't have a lot of time to suffer fools. Which one of my rational arguements do you disagree with?


It's in the online PDF library, next to the article about how to compose a rational argument.

Too bad you didn't read that one either.

Member #4491
11-20-11, 00:41
Hahaha, good one Driveallnight. :-D So in other words we all have our own code. Maybe quite close to the truth actually.

How some of the guys here can be so opinionated is beyond me. And why do some guys need to be so f*cking unfriendly? Your ego will still be a pathetic infected little creature, crying for more attention of any kind, no matter how many people you step in the face in your imaginary world. King behind the keyboard. A weak strategy for self-actualization. If the climate here on ISG was more friendly, and less guys was in such desperate need to mend their imploded self esteem, we would not be so few guys actually sharing useful information. People are not impressed by this rude nonsense, they just go silent. Grow up.

Well, I will continue to pretend as if all guys here where cool and deserved info.

I have been scheduled to see Paxawae in Davao a couple of times, but did not get around to it and do not plan to soon either. To much fish in the ocean and to little time.

If am not to sure I agree with this part:

"DeY SaY that I'm tOO iNtelliGeNce. IN class"

But she is alright looking and looking for someone to date her. Seems she is out of money since she started to ping me again, even if she promised never to see me after I stood her up the third time.

She will start with marriage and all that shit, but at least for me she soon enough reduced the requirements drastically. Have fun and do report back if you see her.

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?view=mini&uid=5447640459

Barba (still waiting for something juicy and curvy to come his way for the February trip)

Cunning Stunt
11-20-11, 03:58
http://www.dateinasia.com/camgirl.ella.html

Wants $50 to do a cam show. I'm not that desperate though. HeheFrom the height and absence of photo, I would suspect a ladyboy. Stumbled on another wannabe Quezon cam star yesterday who gave me a free performance. Had a tidy body (and I might arrange to see her) and a totally untamed wilderness for a muff for those who like the au naturale look. Anyone want details, PM me.

Fatboy 1980
11-20-11, 04:52
From the height and absence of photo, I would suspect a ladyboy. Stumbled on another wannabe Quezon cam star yesterday who gave me a free performance. Had a tidy body (and I might arrange to see her) and a totally untamed wilderness for a muff for those who like the au naturale look. Anyone want details, PM me.I did some digging around (actually I just looked at his / her Yahoo profile) and I found out that she is a he. Another ladyboy tried to fool me but I simply looked at his Facebook page and the photos were a dead giveaway. These fellas aren't smart are they? LOL

Paulb
11-21-11, 15:42
I seen this guys discription on D I A. He wants have sex with many girls as Wayne yo Singapore Wonder how it working for him.

Pinaypounder
11-22-11, 02:33
I had a message today from a girl on DIA (33 year old) who had seen my profile on DIA.

HER: "Hi. I hope we can meet sometime. I like to meet you for some fun but I hope you will reward me as it is my only way to earn cash. Here is my CP number and my YM address"

ME: "Well sure. Let's meet next time I am in (name of city)".

HER: "I am looking forward to meeting you soon and have a good fuck"

I wonder how many guys are on her "to do" list?This is perfect. I love direct women, best to know what your in for! Care to share?

I wonder if she worries how many pussies have been on your dick?

I prefer older women who enjoy fucking myself!

PP

Fatboy 1980
11-22-11, 03:27
I seen this guys discription on D I A. He wants have sex with many girls as Wayne yo Singapore Wonder how it working for him.Who are you talking about?

Paulb
11-22-11, 05:56
Who are you talking about?Sorry check out his page on D I A. I was just wondering if he got a good response?

Fatboy 1980
11-22-11, 11:38
There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.

http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html

Member #4491
11-22-11, 12:10
There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.

http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html

'The profile for sure looks like a females profile. A little warning bell on all her "qualifiers". Fatboy, the options in Cebu are endless. A lot of good female fuck partners in the bars, and if you go on-line in DIA when you are there, you will find someone quite fast. In addition we are several here who I am sure will be happy to send you contacts if you are just looking for Pp4P. I set out to pick up a cute teen in Ayalla Mall once and it took me less than 5 minutes to close the deal. She had her period though so I had to cum in her mouth instead. She swallowed and I paid her 1000 if I remember correct.

The chatting is a good build up but not required.

B.

Red Kilt
11-22-11, 13:04
Sorry check out his page on D I A. I was just wondering if he got a good response?I am bemused why you are bothering to read guy's profiles on DIA. Just asking.

Yes Fatboy - there are a lot of lady boys but most of them admit to being a shemale in their profiles.
They are usually 5 ft 5 ins or more (many are 5ft 6 and 5ft 8in).
Height is a key likely indicator if you are suspicious.
Rather interestingly, where a girl looks suspiciously like a lady boy and she is not, you will see in her profile the disclaimer insisting that she is "100% woman and to please stop asking her if she is a ladyboy".
These girls don't make the next logical step of putting up a more flattering picture that shows her feminine side.

Amadeuss
11-22-11, 16:40
Once you register, you see a short list of what you are allowed of. But a long list of what not to do.

I had an account with them. After getting some nice meetings in the province, I felt it was better to close it. Not to keep the contacts going on. With the sure request for "help"

A year later I did try to re-open it. Didn't work and no reply from them on my mail.

I opened a new one, giving the same e-mail as before : acess denied.

I got another e mail adress, registered again: acess denied.

Went on another PC, different IP, never on DIA with that. And again different e-mail: accepted, got the phone confirmation code and set up my page.

A week later my account closed again. No indication why, except the list of 30 possible sins one can do. And no option to communicate with them.

I am curious, if any computer geek can tell me how they keep records. Do they tag pictures? Do they store IP's? Is it not enough to clear cookies? Does a program goes through all mails to detect some wordings?

No silly replies please. But guys who are in the biz. Thanks

Tally Wacker
11-22-11, 16:49
Good question. My account was cancelled as well and I was not able to reopen. I plan to try from a different IP address but I hope I don't have the same problem as you did. Did you use your same Phone # to register the last time?


Once you register, you see a short list of what you are allowed of. But a long list of what not to do.

I had an account with them. After getting some nice meetings in the province, I felt it was better to close it. Not to keep the contacts going on. With the sure request for "help"

A year later I did try to re-open it. Didn't work and no reply from them on my mail.

I opened a new one, giving the same e-mail as before : acess denied.

I got another e mail adress, registered again: acess denied.

Went on another PC, different IP, never on DIA with that. And again different e-mail: accepted, got the phone confirmation code and set up my page.

A week later my account closed again. No indication why, except the list of 30 possible sins one can do. And no option to communicate with them.

I am curious, if any computer geek can tell me how they keep records. Do they tag pictures? Do they store IP's? Is it not enough to clear cookies? Does a program goes through all mails to detect some wordings?

No silly replies please. But guys who are in the biz. Thanks

Cunning Stunt
11-22-11, 16:49
There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.

http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.htmlLike RK I always check the stated height. At only 5 foot and in view of the general feminine shape of the face, I would be surprised if Maryjoy is a ladyboy. But you say that you have seen her on webcam so maybe 'she' showed you something you didn't expect to see:eek:.

Some of the profiles written by ladyboys on DIA make priceless reading. Check out the one at http://www.dateinasia.com/delicunt05.html. Apart from the brilliant handle, the pen picture appears to have been written by Deliah Smith under the influence of psychotropic substances. Amazing!

Amadeuss
11-22-11, 21:10
Good question. My account was cancelled as well and I was not able to reopen. I plan to try from a different IP address but I hope I don't have the same problem as you did. Did you use your same Phone # to register the last time?Different phone number I used. But when I wrote my profile, I put the same pic on as on the earlier page. Therefore my question if they do face-tagging?

The guys behind are quite secretive. Their I'd is regstered with a separate company, but their actual adress is only given as being in Arizona, withour further names. Legal question: are they allowed to store personal data (communication with members, pics, whatever.) although the account is closed?

Member #4351
11-23-11, 00:43
Maybe some girl or girls complained about you. Since its a free site, DIA doesn't lose anything if they kick guys off their page.

Cbea20
11-23-11, 01:34
Not a ladyboy, but apparently too young. Use the YM address she provides to look at her Facebook.


There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.

http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html

Fatboy 1980
11-23-11, 01:54
Not a ladyboy, but apparently too young. Use the YM address she provides to look at her Facebook.Hmm. How can you tell her age from the FB photo? I didn't add her as a friend. Did you?

Maybe it was just the camera because her face looked too big to be a girl (the jaw line was all wrong). Also, I'm not even sure if the pic on DIA is genuine, because she looked very different on cam. And to Cunning Stunt, haha she didn't show me anything on cam. I'm beginning to think I should ask them to show me some proof as soon as we begin the chat. It's frustrating and annoying when LBs get in contact. I even put it in caps on my profile to tell LBs to stay away!

Fatboy 1980
11-23-11, 01:58
Would it be against any rules or TOS to out LBs on DIA or similar sites? Not the ones that openly admit to it, but the ones who hide it and attempt to con us pussy-hounds. Just as a way of getting each other's backs and avoid these time wasters?

Member #4351
11-23-11, 02:07
Would it be against any rules or TOS to out LBs on DIA or similar sites?Who cares? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You are already going to burn out most of the worthwhile girls by chatting months and months in advance of your trip.

Fatboy 1980
11-23-11, 02:22
Who cares? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You are already going to burn out most of the worthwhile girls by chatting months and months in advance of your trip.Ok fair enough. I actually thought about that. I am in contact with some girls already, but I'm going to stop talking to them or other girls until I get closer to the date. I was just kind of testing the waters, so to speak.

Member #4351
11-23-11, 02:32
If you have read the forum, you will note that all the experienced members suggest starting to make contact a couple of weeks before your trip. I realize that living in sex prison with no available pussy is a frustrating experience and chatting with cuties is tempting. Just look at how many guys spend megabucks on livechat sites. But try to control yourself and just concentrate on getting the logistics of your trip organized. Then when you reach your destination you can concentrate on the chicas. That is my humble opinion.

Fatboy 1980
11-23-11, 02:59
If you have read the forum, you will note that all the experienced members suggest starting to make contact a couple of weeks before your trip. I realize that living in sex prison with no available pussy is a frustrating experience and chatting with cuties is tempting. Just look at how many guys spend megabucks on livechat sites. But try to control yourself and just concentrate on getting the logistics of your trip organized. Then when you reach your destination you can concentrate on the chicas. That is my humble opinion.Duly noted, Sir! Actually that is very good advice. My recon so far suggests that hooking up via the internet is a piece of cake in the Phils, so I'm going to lay low for a a while.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-23-11, 03:04
Would it be against any rules or TOS to out LBs on DIA or similar sites? Not the ones that openly admit to it, but the ones who hide it and attempt to con us pussy-hounds. Just as a way of getting each other's backs and avoid these time wasters?99% of ladyboys are quite easy to uncover. In the Phil, it's closer to 100% because they don't have the money to do all the things necessary to hide their original sex. If you don't now how to do this google it.

If you were in S. F. Then there are some tran nies who would be hard to determine; it is said even doctors have a hard time with some of them.

DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. A new site Pinaylove has cropped up but the admins there are just dishonest. They suck you in with "free" and then later switch it to restricted if not paid. Waste of time to register there. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.

Spotting LB is the least of your problems in chasing po on in the PI

FurryFriend
11-23-11, 04:33
Ok fair enough. I actually thought about that. I am in contact with some girls already, but I'm going to stop talking to them or other girls until I get closer to the date. I was just kind of testing the waters, so to speak.How I see it is, DIA is free. When it's free, you can't complain. They understandably have a "take it or leave it" attitude. So why raise hell, especially since there's no benefit to you and you might possibly get booted?

Interestingly, it seems they're harsher on guys than girls.

There are simple commonsense countermeasures to discovering ladyboys. Even without it, a vast majority of ladyboys will admit it. They're in it for money and don't want to waste time. They know when it's time for sex and you see a penis, you won't pay. So he's just wasting time by lying.

By the way, I'd wager most guys lie on their profiles too. In fact, I believe girls take on greater risk being on DIA than guys.

Member #4491
11-23-11, 08:03
I am curious, if any computer geek can tell me how they keep records. Do they tag pictures? Do they store IP's? Is it not enough to clear cookies? Does a program goes through all mails to detect some wordings?DIA seem to trigger on cookies, IP and reused data (including pictures that is extremely easy to match to a database). So avoid all of that. To have some sort of writing pattern recognition is far fetched and they do not have this (I am on my second profile and still write the same bs).

You can use TOR or a free proxy to get around the proxy problem.

https://www.torproject.org/

http://www.proxy4free.com/ (or any other of a million sites)

B

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FreebieFan
11-23-11, 08:25
of them.

DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. A new site Pinaylove has cropped up. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.If its any consolation its not only DIA. I was doing great with Badoo or Baidoo, and was getting lots of contacts when one day I get the message " you have ben sending spam and your acount is hereby deleted". I contacted the administrator who duly replied " We have banned you. There is no right of appeal ". Many many sites out there and realistically there's something for everybody. Just takes time to go thru them all to see which works for you.

Tally Wacker
11-23-11, 08:34
I think I got booted from DIA from responding badly to too many ladyboys. I will be more kind next time to those silly boys if I can get back on the site.


Maybe some girl or girls complained about you. Since its a free site, DIA doesn't lose anything if they kick guys off their page.

Member #4643
11-23-11, 11:03
99% of ladyboys are quite easy to uncover. In the Phil, it's closer to 100% because they don't have the money to do all the things necessary to hide their original sex. If you don't now how to do this google it.

If you were in S. F. Then there are some tran nies who would be hard to determine; it is said even doctors have a hard time with some of them.

DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. A new site Pinaylove has cropped up but the admins there are just dishonest. They suck you in with "free" and then later switch it to restricted if not paid. Waste of time to register there. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.

Spotting LB is the least of your problems in chasing po on in the PII often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.

She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.

Cunning Stunt
11-23-11, 12:58
I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.

She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.Age and height tally, weight nearly so. Face looks similar but not conclusive. Don't worry mate, whew, she doesn't have a dick..... it's been cut off:eek:..... LOL.

http://bangkokladyboys2go.com/portfolio/apple-2/

Amadeuss
11-23-11, 14:58
DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.So. What is their agenda? Why a phone number? To whom they sell it? To whom they sell my personal infos I talk about with the girls?

If they have mods working on the site, reading all mails. Hey guys.thats SCARY!

Otherwise. What high end program they have to filter what you write? CIA cohorts?

SCARY DIA.

Advise to all you guys: better get quick the YM of the girl you want to proceed. And move over there. Much safer.

Sammon
11-23-11, 16:07
I do not know why people use dating paysites to find a sex mate. Just use free sites and chat up.

Success rates wioll be the same. Pay sites maybe better if you are looking for a lifemate.

Sky Ryder
11-23-11, 17:15
Age and height tally, weight nearly so. Face looks similar but not conclusive. Don't worry mate, whew, she doesn't have a dick. It's been cut off. LOL.

http://bangkokladyboys2go.com/portfolio/apple-2/Your going to get in trouble. He he :=)

TurdyCurdyOne
11-23-11, 22:23
DIA seem to trigger on cookies, IP and reused data (including pictures that is extremely easy to match to a database). So avoid all of that. To have some sort of writing pattern recognition is far fetched and they do not have this (I am on my second profile and still write the same bs).

You can use TOR or a free proxy to get around the proxy problem.

https://www.torproject.org/

http://www.proxy4free.com/

(or any other of a million sites)

B.

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EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Proxy Server Topic in the Site Administration section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks! Wrong.

You cannot use TOR or proxies with DIA (with the exception of certain special proxies). DIA blocks all proxies.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-23-11, 22:33
If its any consolation its not only DIA. I was doing great with Badoo or Baidoo, and was getting lots of contacts when one day I get the message " you have ben sending spam and your acount is hereby deleted". I contacted the administrator who duly replied " We have banned you. There is no right of appeal ". Many many sites out there and realistically there's something for everybody. Just takes time to go thru them all to see which works for you.If any of you use google email, know this. Google email scans the contents of your emails in order to provide data to advertisters to target spam to you and modify the ads you get on web pages.

Don't take my word for it, research it.

Google gmail is also starting to require mobile phone numbers and in some cases they have blocked already established accounts so you cannot access your email without then providing a cell number. And they don't take just any cell number either if they follow craigslist policies, it cannot be prepaid. C. L. Pays a fon date service to determine what type of cell number you have and if it's prepaid anonymous they won't accept it.

Do NOT rely on any one web page and put your eggs in one basket.

These we page admins are a bunch of slea zeballs in many cases.

When they have no business, they will do anything and promise you anything to get you to sign up. Later when they start getting regular income and customers they cut you off at the knees.

This is the trend across the internet and I predict in many years these corporations will be like big brother trying to control your life. It's already started and they will proceed slowly like frogs in gradually heating water you won't notice it until you are screwed.

Forwarned is forarmed.

Member #4491
11-23-11, 23:12
Wrong.

You cannot use TOR or proxies with DIA (with the exception of certain special proxies). DIA blocks all proxies.Hmmm. I have a distinct memory that logged onto DIA via both proxies and TOR in the past. Isn't it just the country that needs to be correct / accepted? They are quite advanced if the keep track of TOR exit nodes and block them dynamically. Well I rest my case. Sorry I posted this in the wrong section, Mr Admin.

/H

Amadeuss
11-24-11, 01:44
I do not know why people use dating paysites to find a sex mate. Just use free sites and chat up.

Success rates wioll be the same.You don't know what we talking about: DIA is free!

Heyyy. Any HTML-techies here to sell me the script starting a datingsite?

I think I could do some hard competition aginst those DIA nerds. Brothers of the facebook-wanker

FreebieFan
11-24-11, 03:18
I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.

She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.I think in BKK its highly accepted to check in advnce and to ask a girl if she's a LB. If you read a few Thai profiles on DIA etc they wil state categorically they are "not LB's" because they know its a relevant question. Most girls won't be offended if you ask.

FreebieFan
11-24-11, 09:49
Young lady showing her upper wares.http://www.dateinasia.com/melodyong.html

Edward M
11-24-11, 13:27
Google gmail is also starting to require mobile phone numbers and in some cases they have blocked already established accounts so you cannot access your email without then providing a cell number. And they don't take just any cell number either if they follow craigslist policies, it cannot be prepaid. C. L. Pays a fon date service to determine what type of cell number you have and if it's prepaid anonymous they won't accept it.Are you sure about that? I just created a gmail account to test this and no mention was ever made of any phone number.

WestCoast1
11-24-11, 18:23
If any of you use google email, know this. Google email scans the contents of your emails in order to provide data to advertisters to target spam to you and modify the ads you get on web pages.

Don't take my word for it, research it.

Google gmail is also starting to require mobile phone numbers and in some cases they have blocked already established accounts so you cannot access your email without then providing a cell number. And they don't take just any cell number either if they follow craigslist policies, it cannot be prepaid. C. L. Pays a fon date service to determine what type of cell number you have and if it's prepaid anonymous they won't accept it.I created my first gmail account last week. No request for a phone number.

Paul2020
11-24-11, 18:33
I created my first gmail account last week. No request for a phone number.I never had to provide a Mobile number for a G-Mail I'd, but while experimenting with some Google voice features a couple of weeks ago, they did require a Mobile I'd to send a verification code.

Skype also has that requirement if you are going to use a number for caller I'd.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-24-11, 20:43
I never had to provide a Mobile number for a G-Mail I'd, but while experimenting with some Google voice features a couple of weeks ago, they did require a Mobile I'd to send a verification code.

Skype also has that requirement if you are going to use a number for caller I'd.If you do not use anonmyzing proxies, no one ever tries to hack your gmail account and they know who you are,

Then you will not be asked for a phone number until such time as they think there is any unusual activity on your account or until such time as they change their changeable policies.

I have been asked for mobile phone numbers on multiple accounts and in one case I was unable to access my already established account because they changed the criterion for access by requiring a phone number.

Point is they can change your ability to access you account and indentify you any time the feel like it and their is not a the mn thing you can do about it.

Also your email is scanned by automated servers and they develop marketing profiles on you so as to target ads to your computer or spam your email. This plus any credit card or other identifying info you use with any isp that you subscribe to or in any other way give them your credit card info, name etc. Gives they your identity, a profile of your interests, sites visited, etc.

Google it. These are well known issues, but apparently some are still blissfully ignorant.

Amadeuss
11-24-11, 22:13
Young lady showing her upper.

wares.http://www.dateinasia.com/melodyong.htmlSee what we talking about: Profile CLOSED. And that within a day of raunchy appearance.

Those controllers are freaky guys.

Any techie, PM me if you got a script for a datesite. Only competition can make those guys shut up.

Fslag338
11-25-11, 21:51
Chatting already some time with a DIA girl of 23. Really nice, big tits and tells me how much she wants me to lick her pussy blablabla. Go to the phils next week and we had already agreed on meeting.

Because I had seen her on cam already many times, I was not suspicious anymore. Until. I saw her FB pics. First I didn't notice anything strange until I saw a pic with a car in it and the license plate looked so strange. Zoomed in. Reading backwards. Strange. Then I start studying all the pics and notice moles on the left arm on exactly the same spot as on the right arm. So some pictures are "mirrored". But why is that. More zooming and more scanning. Then I see. Her left eye is pointing towards the sky and her face is not symmetric to say it politely. Shit. She did it clever. Cam was also always on the right (=good) side. And I was already looking forward to playing with those huge knockers. And licking that pussy. Damn. That's the risk of hunting.

She is really a nice girl. So I will not reveal her identity nor her city. But if you are chatting with a 23 whyear old with really big tits. I would check very carefully.

Red Kilt
11-26-11, 07:02
See what we talking about: Profile CLOSED. And that within a day of raunchy appearance.

Those controllers are freaky guys.

Any techie, PM me if you got a script for a datesite. Only competition can make those guys shut up.It's also possible that SHE closed her profile because she was suddenly bombarded by messages after her I D was listed on the site.

FurryFriend
11-26-11, 09:06
See what we talking about: Profile CLOSED. And that within a day of raunchy appearance.

Those controllers are freaky guys.

Any techie, PM me if you got a script for a datesite. Only competition can make those guys shut up.C'mon, don't be lame. If she's showing her breasts, it's against their terms of agreement. Nothing unreasonable about that.

Cunning Stunt
11-26-11, 09:17
Chatting already some time with a DIA girl of 23. Really nice, big tits and tells me how much she wants me to lick her pussy blablabla. Go to the phils next week and we had already agreed on meeting.

Because I had seen her on cam already many times, I was not suspicious anymore. Until. I saw her FB pics. First I didn't notice anything strange until I saw a pic with a car in it and the license plate looked so strange. Zoomed in. Reading backwards. Strange. Then I start studying all the pics and notice moles on the left arm on exactly the same spot as on the right arm. So some pictures are "mirrored". But why is that. More zooming and more scanning. Then I see. Her left eye is pointing towards the sky and her face is not symmetric to say it politely. Shit. She did it clever. Cam was also always on the right (=good) side. And I was already looking forward to playing with those huge knockers. And licking that pussy. Damn. That's the risk of hunting.

She is really a nice girl. So I will not reveal her identity nor her city. But if you are chatting with a 23 whyear old with really big tits. I would check very carefully.That is why you should always pack a brown paper bag with 2 eye and a mouth hole cut out, just for such an eventuality. I carry 2, just in case the first one splits:D.

Hellas
11-26-11, 19:54
Hello, everyone!

Has anyone tried the services it offers this profile, I mean students like travel companion? I want to go to Boracay for a few days. Reliable?

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KongKing
11-27-11, 02:28
They are usually 5 ft 5 ins or more (many are 5ft 6 and 5ft 8in).

Height is a key likely indicator if you are suspicious.Yes Red Kilt, height is a pretty good indicator. Here is a 35kg (77lb) 151cm (4'11") gay who is a dramatic exception:

http://www.dateinasia.com/edwardbooc81.html

KongKing

Jambo
11-27-11, 04:02
Here is a (4'11") gay who is a dramatic exception:Only 4'11"? His knees are going to last a long time!

Red Kilt
11-27-11, 13:11
If you want to see an example of a woman who has a profile that does not send the same message as her photo, then check out bittercherry on DIA.

I pointed it out to her and she didn't seem to know what I meant.

She was pissed off at all the suggestive posts she was getting and I told her why. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. There is also a hubby hanging around too wanting her back so be careful if you fall for her photo.

Charlie Horse
11-27-11, 13:23
If you want to see an example of a woman who has a profile that does not send the same message as her photo, then check out bittercherry on DIA.

I pointed it out to her and she didn't seem to know what I meant.

She was pissed off at all the suggestive posts she was getting and I told her why. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. There is also a hubby hanging around too wanting her back so be careful if you fall for her photo.5-2 and 176lbs? Yikes,

FreebieFan
11-28-11, 02:00
Too bad I didn't get to see this before it was deleted.You didn't miss too much. LOL

WestCoast1
11-28-11, 02:21
5-2 and 176lbs? Yikes,He ran into my ex.

FreebieFan
11-29-11, 10:37
I should have said "Tis the season of giving IF YOU ARE A WESTERN GUY who chatgirl thinks could be an easy mark. LOL.

In past few days, been hit on many times for cash advances and the like.

One lady I never met thought it was ok to send me a message on a dating site for P20, 000 for her mums hospital bill. Told her what to do and where to go.

An ex gf asked for P2000 for her son in hospital.

Another ex asked for P1500 to help with her passport application.

And a soon to be gf thought she could hit me up for P10, 000 so she wouldn't lose her scholarship at a local law school. I told her I would pay here P500 for each time she could make me come. LOL. Its been an interesting few days.

But the weirdest request I had yet, is a 19 year old that I was possibly going to be meeting this weekend. I say possibly as she's on my list (I have about 10 possibles / probables for this weekend ). Anyways last night she tells me she's pregnant and do I know how to get rid of it.

Tell I know nothing of this subject.

Today she sends me 100 plaintive pleading messages, asking as follows:

"is it ok if you send me even a medecine please.

To make sure I'm not fooling you. And I'm telling the truth. I'm not aiming for the money all I want is to get rid of this early pregnancy of mine.

Even just 5 cytotec its ok. For me. Please. Do help me ".

These are abortion inducing tablets. And are also extremely dangerous when taken unsupervised. The lady requesting this was firmly advised not to take such medication.

So, none of my ladies got their requests fulfilled tho those that I do meet this weekend wil no doubt be getting a little bonus for their efforts. LOL

Algol
11-29-11, 12:20
Landed in Butuan on the 10th and we immediately spotted each other as soon as I left the baggage area. Her brother in law drove a trike and took us over to the sister's house where a dozen or so relatives showed up to see me. They were generally to shy or lacked enough English to talk to me. Finally, one brother asked me if I knew my girl already had 3 kids. I looked at her while feigning surprise, counted to three on my fingers and loudly exclaimed "3 KIDS, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE A VIRGIN!". That got everyone laughing so hard and after that they were less shy.

Her brother later helped us find a fairly nice one bedroom apartment in the St. Joseph area for 4000 pesos for the month. The owner said to expect to pay another 500 pesos per month on water and electricity.

Her plans to leave her kids with a relative fell through, but at least she brought a niece to keep the kids busy. She also showed no affection during this time and I was starting to think that she wasn't going to work out. Worse, when she laid down the kids, she laid down next to them. I was simply being polite by this point and not expecting much. So I went to the bedroom and fell asleep.

About an hour later, she came to the bedroom and woke me up and totally surprised me. The girl was a raging nymphomaniac that night. A little shy about oral sex at first, but then decided she really liked it. Said I could even hurt her during sex if I wanted (not my thing, but apparently was for her last bf). This girl treated me like a king the whole time I was there.

As I got to know her more, I was astounded by her level of poverty. Her kids were chronically sick and probably malnourished. I learned that the four of them usually only ate rice. I bought a bag of small orange like fruits that they devoured almost immediately. I made it a point to make sure they ate a balanced diet while I was there.

Her youngest child had a birth defect that I knew could probably be fixed with half an hour of surgery. I took the kid to the downtown maternity hospital, found the surgeon, and was able to get the kid fixed for only 2000 pesos. Unfortunately, this blew the rest of the 10, 000 pesos I had budgeted for my trip (not counting Copacabana in Makati and plane fair which were prepaid before I went to the Philippines, I planned to use the deposit from Copacabana for the airport tax).

I told her that I wasn't sure I could get more money. I witnessed her ability to survive on almost no money without a single complaint. She fixed only small amounts of rice. She found scraps of wood to burn for cooking the rice, instead of using oling (charcoal like chips). We had one egg and she tried to give it to me, although I told her to give it to the kids instead. Luckily, I went online and discovered that I still had just over a $100 in my bank account and after walking around town and trying a few banks I was able to withdraw 4000 pesos from the ATM at the BDO bank.

Finally, the end of my 18 days in a mixture of heaven (beautiful pinay) and hell (insects / heat / foul smells / lack of sanitation) came to an end. As I was packing my bags, the girl came into the room, realized that I was getting stuff ready to leave. Saw tears running down her face. I didn't think the sex could have gotten any better, but it did that last night. She puts every American girl that I have ever been with to complete shame in that department.

Was she a scammer? Probably. She told me that she originally never believed that I would ever come to her country to meet her. She had had several chat friends over the years that never seemed to show up. Most guys would just try to get her to strip at a public cafe. So she would just make friends first and then ask after about a month for some money. She does want me to bring her to the USA so she can work and send money to her kids (she knows that I could never afford to bring her kids over) , but I also have no doubt that she would make a devoted wife. So even though she may be a scammer, I plan to keep her.

Buko Max
11-29-11, 13:34
Then you will not be asked for a phone number until such time as they think there is any unusual activity on your account or until such time as they change their changeable policies.As a long time G-mail account holder, I have recently been receiving this message:

Add your mobile phone to your account.

Without a phone number, you could lose all access to your account if you forget your password or if your account is hijacked.

Don't think there is anything sinister behind it and I can opt in if I so desire but that could change in a heartbeat!

My view is that Google is trying to market to cell phone users as more and more people always seem to have them in hand!

SergeantRay
11-30-11, 01:17
Algol,

The lady does not sound like a scammer to me. It seems like she's honest with you and is not trying to take you for every cent you've got.

Sure, she needs money. As long as she's honest about it, and what the money's for, then I'm fine with that.

And I, too, have seen Filipino kids fed on little more than plates of white rice. I believe that you'll eventually be repaid for your kindness to those kids, which is never wasted money or effort.

FurryFriend
11-30-11, 05:59
It seems like she's honest with you and is not trying to take you for every cent you've got.

Not yet.

Once word gets around that some foreigner came to town and threw money around like Santa Claus, who do you think they'll go for groceries, tuition, medical expenses and the like? They'll ask her and she'll ask him.

This is the Philippines where there's little shame in asking for money.


So even though she may be a scammer, I plan to keep her.

I love the Philippines! Guys suspect a women is trouble and yet, he still goes through with it.

TurdyCurdyOne
11-30-11, 06:43
Not yet.

Once word gets around that some foreigner came to town and threw money around like Santa Claus, who do you think they'll go for groceries, tuition, medical expenses and the like? They'll ask her and she'll ask him.

This is the Philippines where there's little shame in asking for money.

I love the Philippines! Guys suspect a women is trouble and yet, he still goes through with it.This is a very poor Country where it is very difficult to make money and the costs are not so low compared to some other Asian countries.

I tell them that the woman I choose I will help if she has helped me.

I also tell them I am going to say NO to their relatives unless the relatives have done something substancial for me.

You have to be able to say NO, but you also have to have some compassion imo for their situation which is very difficult in most cases. I do not blame them for asking for help, I would probably do the same in their shoes.

Guys that go the Phil just to see how much p oo and they can get with no regard to giving anything in return give "poriners" a bad name and rep imo. That's the way I see it.

X Man
11-30-11, 14:07
This one is a bit too chubby for me, but she seems to have the right attitude. I think she had some help writing the profile. If I was in CDO I'd be tempted to meet her.

X

FreebieFan
12-01-11, 02:51
Was recently in UK for a brief visit, and thanks to the ability of certain internet sites to be able to both know your age and location, when I clicked on certain sites, the accompanying advertisng offered to redirect me to "Senior Dating in UK " " Over 50's Dating for English people" and other such sites.

Out of curiosity I looked. Well the words were the same as the Asian sites we regualrly review." I seek an honest man, an affectionate man, a man who will appreciate my values and virtues " but the accompanying pics were of a 60 or 65 year old woman. I was waiting for the line " who will love me for what I am" but I guess the level of English in England is just a tad better than that time worn phrase.

I'm so happy that at 10am on Saturday morning I will be enjoying the delights of a 19 year old Filipina who will only be old saggy and wrinkled when my mortal coil has long since expired.

HotForever
12-01-11, 11:21
I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.

She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.I would bet 10,000 baht that she is a ladyboy.

However, if you really only need a guide, most ladyboys speak better english than the genuine girls.

KongKing
12-01-11, 17:29
This one is a bit too chubby for me, but she seems to have the right attitude. I think she had some help writing the profile. If I was in CDO I'd be tempted to meet her.

XAre you missing something here X man? This one? Which one?

FreebieFan
12-02-11, 07:44
It takes the guesswork out of wondering what her body is like http://www.dateinasia.com/kelly_villan.html

X Man
12-02-11, 14:23
Sorry, let me try to find her again. In the meantime, check out oyang.

Too good to be true, but what the hell.


Are you missing something here X man? This one? Which one?

Teamsatan
12-04-11, 19:03
Just joined filipina cupid, almost instantly had two chats with supposed filipina women in Ghana. What are the odds of that?

DriveAllNight
12-05-11, 07:30
Just joined filipina cupid, almost instantly had two chats with supposed filipina women in Ghana. What are the odds of that?This could be a good thing. Ghana may have a lower carabao mortality rate.

Mr Enternational
12-05-11, 13:05
Just joined filipina cupid, almost instantly had two chats with supposed filipina women in Ghana. What are the odds of that?Hmmm. What are the odds? I can honestly say that last time I was in Ghana, December 24th of last year, I did meet a Pinay in the grocery store. However, she was in fact married to a poriner who was working there at the time. But I think the chances are higher that it is someone trying to scam you than it being an actual Filipina. You said it was on filipinacupid. Well whenever I have my membership active on one of the cupid sites and I try to log in from Ghana or Nigeria without using a proxy server they will always block me out until I get back to a country that is not restricted under their TOS and send them an email explaining that it was me and not a scammer.

Carlos3000
12-06-11, 22:18
Gentlemen,

Thanks to the wealth of information on this tread and advice from some veterans, I will be making my maiden trip to manila next week. As part of my preparation, I have been chatting up a few cuties on FC and DIA. There is this particular dia chick that we hit it off real strong and have been chatting up a storm. She is interesting, well educated and informed. And you ask what is the problem? The problem is that I'm not really sure if she is a ladyboy. Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on. Consequently, I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am. Here's her dia profile and blog:

http://www.dateinasia.com/autumn23.html

www.autumnflamingwonderland.********.com

Thanks in advance.

Member #4351
12-06-11, 23:14
I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am.1. Chat with her on webcam and look closely.

2. Phone her and listen to her voice.

TurdyCurdyOne
12-07-11, 00:58
Gentlemen,

Thanks to the wealth of information on this tread and advice from some veterans, I will be making my maiden trip to manila next week. As part of my preparation, I have been chatting up a few cuties on FC and DIA. There is this particular dia chick that we hit it off real strong and have been chatting up a storm. She is interesting, well educated and informed. And you ask what is the problem? The problem is that I'm not really sure if she is a ladyboy. Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on. Consequently, I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am. Here's her dia profile and blog:

http://www.dateinasia.com/autumn23.html

www.autumnflamingwonderland.********.com

Thanks in advance.Simple. Ask it. They will almost always tell you if they are.

Really if you cannot handle such a simple task, the Phil is no place for you.

Other ways, ask her for cam and look at her body.

She does not appear to have an adam's apple-so she probably is not.

She is young so thats good reason not to have kids yet.

When she gets to like you well, you can ask her to undress for you on cam.

I have never had a problem with this, ever. It's a trivial task really.

Cunning Stunt
12-07-11, 03:02
Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on.Is there an unintended pun, here? Not a posed, glamour type photo - tick. Not unusually tall - tick. Not with a masculine shaped face - tick. Passes my initial LB detector test and seems to be all woman. But go ahead and ask her. If she isn't, she will think it hilariously funny.

Mr Enternational
12-07-11, 04:57
The problem is that I'm not really sure if she is a ladyboy. Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on. Consequently, I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am. Here's her dia profile and blog:

http://www.dateinasia.com/autumn23.html

www.autumnflamingwonderland.********.com

Thanks in advance.Dude that is a woman. You guys need to stop being so paranoid. But you are all into her and have not even talked to her on the phone? Like David said phone and/or cam is the way to go. They all have phones and they all have cams, so there is no excuse. The voice is sure to give it away if nothing else.

*Disclaimer: I have not seen the blog pictures because the site name was blocked. The "flaming" part would kind of scare me though!

D Cups
12-07-11, 16:53
This "woman" also hit me up on DIA. Too ugly for me whatever it is.


Dude that is a woman. You guys need to stop being so paranoid. But you are all into her and have not even talked to her on the phone? Like David said phone and / or cam is the way to go. They all have phones and they all have cams, so there is no excuse. The voice is sure to give it away if nothing else.

*Disclaimer: I have not seen the blog pictures because the site name was blocked. The "flaming" part would kind of scare me though!

Bob Bowie
12-07-11, 19:03
Carlos3000, just ask her under a different name or have another member ask her.

The long info in her profile and admitting she smokes may be hints she is a LB.

Amadeuss
12-11-11, 11:15
I am. Since DIA kicked me off and never had the curtesy to tell why, on www.tagged. And got a lot of nice chats. Those are no scammers. More real.

Will see in January when there, whats the sucess rate.

Mr Enternational
12-11-11, 18:24
I am. Since DIA kicked me off and never had the curtesy to tell why, on.

www.tagged

And got a lot of nice chats. Those are no scammers. More real.And as far as who the ladyboys are, most will say it in their profile (at least those in Thailand). If not, there is more than one picture to judge from unlike DIA.

Member #4491
12-13-11, 01:23
So even though she may be a scammer, I plan to keep her.Scammer or survivor, doing whatever it takes to feed her kids. So would I.

Love is not blind, but very pragmatic.

Thank you for sharing this experience. You have heart, mate. Hat's off for what you did.

Best Regards, Barba

FreebieFan
12-13-11, 05:49
A dia lass by the name " the sun also rises " states in her profile.

"SOMEONE ALSO REMIND ME:

That SOME of the worst men come to this site. They are the ones that cannot get a girl in their country. They are the losers, the fat, the ugly, the old and the BAD.

Some are also businessmen that have opportunity to travel in Asia.

They want to go to the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand for Sexual Gratification.

Speaking of sex. This is the main goal of MOST men in here.

But the problem is that most of these hungry sex hunting Devils are quite capable of acting nice, using sweet words, and making false promises.

They often take advantage of the hopes and dreams of young asians.

-

Who are these men who are old ugly fat and bad losers. They should be ashamed of themselves!

Merry Christmas Mongers!

FreebieFan
12-13-11, 06:45
Have a long time chatfriend who I met once and we did the Sogo short time thing which I can remember for the fact I have a funny video of her with my dick in her ass and she is saying " I never got fucked in the ass before "

Fast forward 15 months to a chat we had yesterday when the subject came around to anal joy. She says she has never been done in the ass, and wouldn't want to do that.

I reminded her that we had in fact enjoyed such a pleasure and she replies " we did that, ? Oh I don't remember ". These gals will sometimes say anything to anyone.

Pute Nut
12-13-11, 16:04
But the problem is that most of these hungry sex hunting Devils are quite capable of acting nice, using sweet words, and making false promises.Someone should remind her not to spend time and money seeking those deplaning devils out on DIA, but to stick with the local, non-verbal, saints riding jeepneys. They are stand-up guys who would never lie to get into a girl's panties. Nor would they ever head for another province when she utters the b word. Problem solved!

There'll still be a steady supply of single mothers who won't mind meeting up for a C2 or two at JolliBees after she's left DIA. For some odd reason. ;)

Mr Enternational
12-13-11, 16:55
A dia lass by the name " the sun also rises " states in her profile.

"SOMEONE ALSO REMIND ME:

That SOME of the worst men come to this site. They are the ones that cannot get a girl in their country. They are the losers, the fat, the ugly, the old and the BAD.
Some are also businessmen that have opportunity to travel in Asia.
They want to go to the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand for Sexual Gratification.
Speaking of sex. This is the main goal of MOST men in here.
But the problem is that most of these hungry sex hunting Devils are quite capable of acting nice, using sweet words, and making false promises.
They often take advantage of the hopes and dreams of young asians.
Who are these men who are old ugly fat and bad losers. They should be ashamed of themselves!
She's cute and pretty damn articulate for a DIA girl I must say.

Frenchmen
12-14-11, 06:58
Something really funny happened to me and I thought I shall share and I think this is the most appropriate topic.

Yesterday I stumbled upon this porn website Trike patrol which is a collection of Filipino amateurs (I wonder if the webmaster is a member here. I am almost sure he is. LOL) and I see these girls. Che and Charm http://hosted.***********.com/fhg/che-charm-set-2-vid/ And I realize that Charm is Hydeh, a girl that I picked on Tagged and meet in Cebu together with her friend Cheryl (Che). How cool is this to be able to have two pornstars for a night for less than how much the video costs to watch? LOL.

The girls were pretty good and I will probably meet them again when I get back to Cebu. I will have my private pornstar treatment.

Questor55
12-14-11, 08:30
So, this DIA 'girl' is not only remarkably articulate, but also a Hemingway fan? . C'mon! Every once in a while you will find a DIA profile that is written in excellent English, thoughtful and polished. Invariably, if you contact the 'girl', she is either monosyllabic, or her native English speaking 'friend' is keyboarding the reply."If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck". Then it aint a Filipina!

Amadeuss
12-15-11, 01:06
A dia lass by the name " the sun also rises " states in her profile.

" SOME of the worst men come to this site. They are the ones that cannot get a girl in their country. They are the losers, the fat, the ugly, the old and the BAD.

Some are also businessmen that have opportunity to travel in Asia.

They want to go to the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand for Sexual Gratification.

Speaking of sex. This is the main goal of MOST men in here.

!Yes. Absolutely true! . But as long as the girls have a chance of 1:100 to find a husband, they will take the gamble.

Simian
12-15-11, 12:35
So, this DIA 'girl' is not only remarkably articulate, but also a Hemingway fan? . C'mon! Every once in a while you will find a DIA profile that is written in excellent English, thoughtful and polished. Invariably, if you contact the 'girl', she is either monosyllabic, or her native English speaking 'friend' is keyboarding the reply."If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck". Then it aint a Filipina!Actually I have found a few very well educated women on DIA. Yes, the majority are uneducated or monosyllabic. But it depends on what you are looking for. If you look hard on some of these sites you will find them. And along the way you may find someone who writes for them although I have never found that. I admit it must be a bummer when you do. But you can sort that out pretty quickly when you phone them on Skype. I have a special Skype name for those I meet online.

But the educated ladies (and they are usually 30 +) are not of interest to many people trawling DIA or any of the other sites. Actually I like them. They are more open-minded, great company and very sexual. Great to spend long periods of quality time with. But of course it is also nice to meet the young nymphos for a bit of short time fun. But never for anything more than short time because otherwise it gets boring. Just my humble opinion. Each to his own.

Chocha Monger
12-15-11, 17:38
By Non Alquitran The Philippine Star Updated December 15, 2011 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines. The prime suspect in the killing of a British national who arrived in the country to propose to his Filipina girlfriend, was arrested in Laguna on Tuesday afternoon. Chief Superintendent Gil Meneses, Calabarzon police director, said the suspect, Anselmo Lacontales. 28, was tagged as the one who stabbed dead John Lorne McDonald. 28, out of jealousy.

Lacontales was arrested by joint operatives of the Regional Special Operations Group, Regional Intelligence Division, Regional Public Safety Battalion, and the Rizal and Angono town police in his rented apartment in Barangay 2B, San Pablo City. He was arrested on the strength of an arrest warrant issued by Judge Ma. Conchita Lucero-de Mesa of the Binangonan Regional Trial Court Branch 70.

Meneses said McDonald fell for a Filipina who placed details about herself on an Internet dating site. McDonald, a Scotsman, packed his bags and flew to Angono town in Rizal to propose to his chat-room lover, Nanqueen Romero. 31, whom he met for the first time in September last year. Meneses said they have witnesses who pointed to Lacontales as the attacker of McDonald. Police learned that Romero maintained a relationship with Lacontales and that she failed to tell McDonald about it.

Lacontales is now under the custody of the Angono police. He is scheduled to be turned over to the court, which will then issue his commitment order in a facility of the Bureau of Jail Management and Penology.

Member #1210
12-16-11, 04:10
I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA.Davao Page

http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html

http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.html

Chocha Monger
12-16-11, 05:20
I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA. Davao Page.

http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html

http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.htmlIt really doesn't matter unless you're looking to play the Crying Game. :D

Cunning Stunt
12-16-11, 07:42
I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA. Davao Page.

http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html

http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.htmlSame midget ladyboy.

FreebieFan
12-19-11, 10:09
Lady aged 24 contacts me today. Wants to know more about me. Pic on her profile looks good.

We chat, she works in a bank, and has recently moved to her own apartment in Makati.

So far so good.

She sees me and says of course that I'm handsome.

Says she wants to invite me to her apartment and I will be the first to see her place.

So far very good.

She opens her cam and theres a big pair of susu on display and she's playing with her nipples.

So why wouldn't this be good?

Because she was about 300 pounds and butt ugly. !

FreebieFan
12-20-11, 05:36
Was perusing through some sweet young things when I came upon one ladies profile and under religion, she had put CHATOLIC. Which for some girls is exactly what thier religion is. No rosaries or Hail Marys needed, only a keyboard that works!

FreebieFan
12-22-11, 11:04
Young lady by the name of Pinky Carranza was met on a website today. Nice pic and she made a nice intro to me.

Within minutes I'm her new " honey ".

Then she lays the bait." ahh I see honey yeah really hot here in my room thats why I am waering sexy outfit

Pinky Carranza: ahh I see honey "

Yeah I have a cam and I will invite you honey but I'm so shy for you because I'm bikini here now in my small home because so hot here in my coutry and my small home".

She's a slim girl, long hair, in bra and panties.

After having laid the bait and of course told me how handsome I am she gets sorrowful.

"honey because I'm honest to you I'm talking the owners of the house my house rent because I'm not paying 2months my house rent so thats why I'm already to kick me out the owners of the house "

She hten gets desperate, withuot changing her expression.

"and I'm so scared because if kick me out the owners of the house I really really don't know where to go and sleep I don't like to sleep on my street "

She then lays out her plan."

Your so sweet but I wish you can help me even small amount from your heart "

And sweetens the deal with " and don't worry honey what you like for me I will give "

She then realises that she's not talking with Santa Claus who has no interest in making a charitable donation. So funny!

TurdyCurdyOne
12-22-11, 23:41
Actually I have found a few very well educated women on DIA. Yes, the majority are uneducated or monosyllabic. But it depends on what you are looking for. If you look hard on some of these sites you will find them. And along the way you may find someone who writes for them although I have never found that. I admit it must be a bummer when you do. But you can sort that out pretty quickly when you phone them on Skype. I have a special Skype name for those I meet online.

But the educated ladies (and they are usually 30 +) are not of interest to many people trawling DIA or any of the other sites. Actually I like them. They are more open-minded, great company and very sexual. Great to spend long periods of quality time with. But of course it is also nice to meet the young nymphos for a bit of short time fun. But never for anything more than short time because otherwise it gets boring. Just my humble opinion. Each to his own.I find the educated, English proficient ones good to talk with and as friends but most of them, imo, would not make good mates. I find they are frequently too independent and often it is difficult to get to know them as they are working and have little time for chat. I use them to get good information on the R. P. And to better understand how things work there; they are often good sources for that.

I had one that was very English proficient, smart and a good listener but she was CHEAP, not the typical giving Filipina. I dropped here because she was too cheap to maintain a good net connection.

The usual fare at DIA drives me up the wall. You often have to repeat things 3-4 times for them to understand you, or you have to ask them to rephrase things because their English is so bad, it is incomprehensible. Also a fair percentage are just plain STOOPID.

What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman who is also feminine and sweet. That's hard to find in my experience. My last g / f from Brasil was like that, a rare gem in a sea of barracuda.

Jambo
12-23-11, 01:28
What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman who is also feminine and sweet.You might have some luck with the more social networks like Facebook or Tagged. I hooked up with a girl who works in Europe who was back for a vacation, and all she wanted to do was screw. Dressed very well. Still, hard to figure out who is coming back just when.

GoodEnough
12-23-11, 01:29
As my good buddy Red Kilt and others have oft' reiterated, it's not difficult at all to find intelligent, decently-educated, thoroughly sweet (malambing) women here. It just takes time and a willingness to search in the right places. Often, it also requires extended physical presence since you never know when a chance encounter is going to allow you to strike the mother lode. I've yet to meet a single long-term expat here who hasn't found such a relationship providing that he was looking for one in the first place. Conversely, I've met very few long-termers who continue to occupy themselves exclusively with endless streams of young-often not very sophisticated-women. The fact is, that after a while it just gets boring and loses its allure. When you're surrounded constantly by all the candy you can eat, after a while you foreswear candy, or at least get more selective about how much and what type you eat.

GE

Red Kilt
12-23-11, 04:46
. .

The usual fare at DIA drives me up the wall. You often have to repeat things 3-4 times for them to understand you, or you have to ask them to rephrase things because their English is so bad, it is incomprehensible. Also a fair percentage are just plain STOOPID.I agree with you TC One but we all know that you cannot fix "stoopid" so just move on if her intellect is insufficient. However, I don't think it is fair to either get angry or exasperated by their lack of English.

In most cases, even the most "stoopid" one's English is still way better than my Tagalog, so I just accept her level and either accommodate it or move on.

There is something for everyone, even on DIA.

Red Kilt
12-23-11, 04:55
. .<SNIP > . Often, it also requires extended physical presence since you never know when a chance encounter is going to allow you to strike the mother lode.This is a key element as stated by GE. Those of us who live here just go with the flow and can roam around malls and other venues containing endless eye candy without the "deer in the headlights" look that characterizes so many short-term mongers who are urgently looking for a FL to hit on or to hit on them.

GE and I have often mused about how the best encounter often occurs when it is least expected. If the timing is not convenient, we have the advantage of simply collecting a CP # for a time when it is convenient.

Lamok
12-23-11, 13:06
Have been doing the DIA thing for a while and see that most are scammers of some sort, but I just made a post on craiglist MNL and expected the worst of the worst, but was pleasantly surprised by the response to my post on 'men seeking women' for a 'travel companion' and got 6 or 7 decent sounding replies and a few were educated and worldly. Just one obvious professional replied and just wanted to have fun on the beach with me.

Just wondering what other's experiences on craigslist have been?

Stroker Ace88
12-24-11, 00:03
I find the educated, English proficient ones good to talk with and as friends but most of them, imo, would not make good mates. I find they are frequently too independent and often it is difficult to get to know them as they are working and have little time for chat. I use them to get good information on the R. P. And to better understand how things work there; they are often good sources for that.Too independent because they have a job and as a result do not have all day to spend chatting with you? I thought that was exactly the type of woman you were looking for. Smart, had a good job, insatiable sexual appitite, owner of an 12millionP+ condo with good security and a 24hr pool located in an upscale part of town with no beggars or scams. A place where you can freeload endlessly while you get yourself situated. LMAO. Oh wait, scratch that, I forgot since you will never visit the 'RofP' chat availability is now the most important quality.


I had one that was very English proficient, smart and a good listener but she was CHEAP, not the typical giving Filipina. I dropped here because she was too cheap to maintain a good net connection. The usual fare at DIA drives me up the wall.If the "usual fare' as you call it drives you up the wall then join a pay dating website. Simple, problem solved and all for the low low price of around $19. 99 US for a one month trial membership. I think you are the cheap one, stop your whining about the lack of quality on DIA and do something about it. Most of the better pay websites have chatrooms and or popup chat boxes along with better email filter features and vastly improved search functions that allow you to zero in on your women of choice.


You often have to repeat things 3-4 times for them to understand you, or you have to ask them to rephrase things because their English is so bad, it is incomprehensible. Also a fair percentage are just plain STOOPID. What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman who is also feminine and sweet.Here is something that might come as a shocker to you, but women from the Philippines are often tri-lingual with the English language being the third or sometimes fourth language learned. (Tagalog, Bisaya, English, Cebuano, Illonggo, ect, ect)

Some woman who have worked as OFW's in Europe, the Middle East or in the worldwide cruise line industry often are proficient or can converse enough to get by in 5 or 6 languages. How many do you know?

Judging by your 'What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman" comment, you are beyond calling the kettle black.

There is a logical reason why you have to repeat things 3 or 4 times to some of your chatmates and it's only obvious to someone who has stepped foot inside a netcafe in the Philippines. Your chatmates are chatting with multiple guys at any one time. I have seen countless women sitting in small netcafes all over the Philippines and most women have limited chat time available. They will try to cram in as many chat connections as they can in the smallest amount of time. Woman chatting with a dozen guys at once and have multiple cams open in a netcafe is a very common thing. They often type one message to a guy and then cut and paste it to all the others. It's a fascinating and very revealing look in the life of a chat girl when you can sit near by and watch her in action.

Or maybe she isn't that into you di ba.

Stroker Ace88
12-24-11, 00:18
Have been doing the DIA thing for a while and see that most are scammers of some sort, but I just made a post on craiglist MNL and expected the worst of the worst, but was pleasantly surprised by the response to my post on 'men seeking women' for a 'travel companion' and got 6 or 7 decent sounding replies and a few were educated and worldly. Just one obvious professional replied and just wanted to have fun on the beach with me.

Just wondering what other's experiences on craigslist have been?There was a discussion awhile back about the Manila craigslist section (8-12months ago) do a search on this section and on the Manila section to find the exact posts.

PS- Like the nickname.

Python75
12-24-11, 00:23
Have been doing the DIA thing for a while and see that most are scammers of some sort, but I just made a post on craiglist MNL and expected the worst of the worst, but was pleasantly surprised by the response to my post on 'men seeking women' for a 'travel companion' and got 6 or 7 decent sounding replies and a few were educated and worldly. Just one obvious professional replied and just wanted to have fun on the beach with me.

Just wondering what other's experiences on craigslist have been?I use craigslist as a useful agendum to DIA and have had reasonable success. Two of the girls I have met also have profiles on DIA. I make it perfectly clear in my ad that I am only looking for companionship and not a relationship.

Machjr
12-24-11, 02:49
Her name is khazzie nielsen. She's a fucking cam girl. First I'm very interested with her because she's mixed american asia. She give me her I'd on fb, ym. So be carefull with this gurl. And never send money to her. All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.

http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994

It began as usual. She wrote in the profile she is from Manila, when I said I'm too, she said now she has gone to the province to be with her mom and then began the usual back and forth drama. How she lost her mobile and she is poor but she like me very much and she will switch on the cam later as her mom is sitting with her. I knew it was a scam but went in anyway.

I decided to fish and went over board in saying, that I will send her money to come to manila and I'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. She was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in Manila.

Leilany delos Reyes

6035 Tatalon st ugong valenzuala city.

Manila.

[Email address deleted by Admin]

She was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. I fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm. Finally, I said. My Filipino friends from QC are coming directly to her home to give money in hand as you have not received it yet. She started to panic. I opened her up and threaten to visit her home. Her last message was. I just had the fake I'd. Ok bye.

I saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. What more can we do but to warn others. If I go to Valenzuela to confront her. I will return in a body bag LOL.

I agree. More and more scammer don't see any distinction anymore. They are after everyone now a days.

Yep. It could be that. Never thought like that way. More and more Indians are traveling to south east Asia and feeling it easy to get laid and in process getting cleaned up as well. I think Indians are more vulnerable in that, they know english as well, so chatting won't be an issue unlike for koreans and japanese folks. So ya Indians are also the easy target now a days. Thanks[/QUOTE]

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Hairy Wonder
12-24-11, 08:34
While I, and I believe many other mongers, find it much easier to navigate and monger in a place that speaks my language, I find it far more "STOOPID" of anyone to expect a high level of English proficiency from people that don't use English as their native language. For all that are frustrated by the lack of English these girls from the Philippines have, why don't you learn to speak Tagalog at a minimum? In my book, there is nothing more stupid than going to a foreign country and expecting them to speak you language or do things they way you are used to at home. Learn how to adapt to the environment you freely put yourself into. Don't expect the natives to adapt to you.

IMHO.

HW

Mr Enternational
12-24-11, 18:38
I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA. Davao Page.

http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html

http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.htmlNow I see why some guys have a phobia of taking a ladyboy back to the room. I guess they really can't tell the difference between a man and a woman.

TurdyCurdyOne
12-25-11, 22:16
While I, and I believe many other mongers, find it much easier to navigate and monger in a place that speaks my language, I find it far more "STOOPID" of anyone to expect a high level of English proficiency from people that don't use English as their native language. For all that are frustrated by the lack of English these girls from the Philippines have, why don't you learn to speak Tagalog at a minimum? In my book, there is nothing more stupid than going to a foreign country and expecting them to speak you language or do things they way you are used to at home. Learn how to adapt to the environment you freely put yourself into. Don't expect the natives to adapt to you.

IMHO.

HWI will tell you what is "Stoopid". And ignorant. Not knowing that the USA is the predominant power in the world (like it or not) and that English is the world language if there is one.

Not knowing that Filipinas IF they go to school are taught English through all the grades, whereas Westerners are not taught Tagalog. Not knowing that there are many dialects in the P. I. Depending how what region you are in.

I intend to learn Tagalog when I live there, however, English is the official language of Gov. And business in the P. I.

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Pute Nut
12-25-11, 23:00
I intend to learn Tagalog when I live there, however, English is the official language of Gov. And business in the P. I.I'm surprised that you don't mention that it is also the legal language since the early 30's (following a transition period from Spanish to English that lasted about thirty years, if memory serves). It is indeed helpful when conducting business in Phil. When chasing good pussy, however, some knowledge of Tagalog can be quite useful. So good luck on your quest. BTW, when do you intend to set foot on Philippine soil?

Mr Enternational
12-25-11, 23:15
I will tell you what is "Stoopid". And ignorant. Not knowing that the USA is the predominant power in the world (like it or not) and that English is the world language if there is one.

Not knowing that Filipinas IF they go to school are taught English through all the grades, whereas Westerners are not taught Tagalog. Not knowing that there are many dialects in the P. I. Depending how what region you are in.

I intend to learn Tagalog when I live there, however, English is the official language of Gov. And business in the P. I.The thing is that I don't believe many of the women who guys on this board deal with are in government or the type of business where they would absolutely need English. Not even to speak on how far they have gone in school. I was a high school French teacher in the mighty USA and I had second year French students who did not know that bonjour meant Hello. If this is the case in a first world country then why the fuck would anyone expect a third world country such as the Philippines to be different or better?

TurdyCurdyOne
12-25-11, 23:36
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Fatboy 1980
12-26-11, 01:26
I came across this girl on DIA. Not sure she is the brightest spark because we are exchanging messages using both profiles. Anyway got chatting to her and she said she would come to my hotel and keep me company etc etc, so I asked her to send some photos. I received an email with some non-nude snaps which she had forwarded to about 8 different guys at the same time LOL!

http://www.dateinasia.com/sexygirl_gorgeous.html

http://www.dateinasia.com/sexybabe09.html

WestCoast1
12-26-11, 01:35
TC1, please separate out the other posters quotes from yours. Its difficult to tell where yours leave off and his starts.


*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?Like so.


*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?And so.

Stroker Ace88
12-26-11, 09:36
*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?In your dreams you wished I was a local but too bad for you that's not the case. It's easier for you to try to deflect attention away from your nonsense babble than to actually hear what someone else has to say.

For you life is all the same. Same room, same walls, same area code, same life. While I, like other members on ISG have roamed far and wide.

You have never sat at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and had fun drinking with the playful girls or strolled on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoyed a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman. You have never sat poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoyed amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates. You have never walked fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer. You have never felt the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room. You have never watched a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.

You sir have never done any of those things. I said it once and I will say it again, get your ass on a plane and go visit the Philippines for yourself then maybe you can provide information from a more informed perspective. My point is, before you give out misguided information on subjects you know very little about and have never experienced in real life, do not be so quick to dismiss others who have actually been there and done that. Many of the senior members who post here live full time in the Philippines or spend vast amounts of time there and are a huge source of good information while all you have done is chat with a few filipinas and you think you know it all.

Nvslim
12-26-11, 11:34
*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?You quoted his whole entry just to leave a smart comment. If you look next to his name in the quote, you can click and read the whole entry. It is not necessary to quote long passages.

Thanks,

Slim

GoodEnough
12-26-11, 12:06
You have never sat at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and had fun drinking with the playful girls or strolled on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoyed a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman. You have never sat poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoyed amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates. You have never walked fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer. You have never felt the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room. You have never watched a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.Stoker that's almost poetic, and a rather perfect description of the joys of Livingstone's Lodge as well as MBC and Greenbelt.

I read this almost by chance, since I don't pay much attention any more to that guy's ignorance, but your post caught my eye. Hat's off to you. You've captured the essence, of these places, and your description will resonate for those of us who live the experience. By implication, you raise another valid point, which is that it's really not possible to credibly fake having been somewhere you've never been; not when a large part of your audience is comprised of guys who have been there multiple times or who actually are there. My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.

GE

WhatsUrName
12-26-11, 18:04
Stoker that's almost poetic, and a rather perfect description of the joys of Livingstone's Lodge as well as MBC and Greenbelt.

I read this almost by chance, since I don't pay much attention any more to that guy's ignorance, but your post caught my eye. Hat's off to you. You've captured the essence, of these places, and your description will resonate for those of us who live the experience. By implication, you raise another valid point, which is that it's really not possible to credibly fake having been somewhere you've never been; not when a large part of your audience is comprised of guys who have been there multiple times or who actually are there. My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.

GEI agree. I need to write these down. My Itinerary for my next trip! LOL.

1) Sit at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and have fun drinking with the playful girls.

2) Stroll on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoy a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman.

3) Sit poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoy amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates.

4) Walk fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer.

5) Feel the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room.

6) Watch a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.

Stroker Ace88
12-26-11, 22:21
My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.

GEAgreed, no need to waste more time.

Member #4491
12-26-11, 23:08
I received an email with some non-nude snaps which she had forwarded to about 8 different guys at the same time LOL!At 150 cm and 38 kg she is excused.

Cute girl, Fatboy. Go for it.

Barba

TurdyCurdyOne
12-27-11, 00:44
In your dreams you wished I was a local but too bad for you that's not the case. It's easier for you to try to deflect attention away from your nonsense babble than to actually hear what someone else has to say.

For you life is all the same. Same room, same walls, same area code, same life. While I, like other members on ISG have roamed far and wide.

You have never sat at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and had fun drinking with the playful girls or strolled on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoyed a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman. You have never sat poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoyed amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates. You have never walked fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer. You have never felt the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room. You have never watched a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.

You sir have never done any of those things.I did all the stuff you're talking about probably while most of the guys here were still watching Bullwinkle or some similar TV show as children. Except I did it in Mexico, not the R. P. Mexico shares some similarities to the RP, but now it has become too dangerous with the drug war going on. You have never spent Christmas at Pier de la Cuesta on a pristine beach with a receding horizon and spectacular sunsets with foreigners from all over the world, while native Indian Mexicans served you a multi course dinner all freshly caught seafood, fresh meats, tortillas and tequilla, then finished with a communal pot sauna under fire of coconut shells. You, sir, make alot of assumptions and most of them are false.

What you do not seem to grasp is that I am older and I don't have time to waste on

Bad moves, so I will wait until such time as the probabilities of good success in LIVING.

In the R. P. Are apparent. I am not coming there with the intention of returning, IF I come at all. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.

I once had an opportunity to interview for a job with the Feds long ago. When I told them my choice would be the R. P. The Personnel Director said: Really? Most of our employees do not want to be stationed there. I think she was talking about Manila but to a lesser extent that applies to the rest of the Country as well.

FreebieFan
12-27-11, 01:50
. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.I think many of us are probably quite happy to hear this. Good luck with your new choice of country, and we hope that you will frequently inhabit the board of that country with as much enthusiasm and lack of knowledge as you have done with the Philippines.

FreebieFan
12-27-11, 01:59
No doubt we have all heard a Filipina exclaim " but you promised me" many times in our lives.

For those not familiar with the Philippines (TC1 take note here) , a conversation with a Filipina can touch upon many subjects, but if any one of those subjects / words is of remote interest to said Filipina, and involves a possible gain for her, its taken to be a promise.

From a Western aspect, the words " I promise" create a binding obligation.

From a Filipina aspect the words " at some stage in the future I might possibly or ocassionally think about this " creates the perception of a promise.

In the spirit of Christmas I sent a " Mery Christmas " to all my YM fucks, both new and old. One such girl who I hadn't chatted with for over a year sent me back a " Freebie, you lied to me " reply.

And then told me I had promised her a job.

The conversation I had had with her, related to her requesting a job from me (admittedly my pants were down and she had just blown me in Sogo) and me replying along the lines of " sure I check and see if we have any vacancies "

So the next time you are said to have made a promise, ask your Filipina what her understanding of a promise is vs yours.

Got all that TC1?

Hairy Wonder
12-27-11, 07:37
I came across this girl on DIA.She does look pretty cute, and posts the same basic information in each profile. Maybe she is just trying to increase her presence in hopes of snagging more "sponsors." If she offered to keep you company at the hotel, go for it. If she doesn't work out, send her packing. If she does make you happy, great for you! Either way, post a report about her when you are done.

Enjoy!

HW

Hairy Wonder
12-27-11, 07:45
My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.

GEI have to agree with you GE. It's just difficult to hold back comments about stupid posts by such an obvious idiot. But I will do my best to take your advice and simply ignore his rambling.

After honorably serving in the US military, and working as a US Federal employee for a combined total of 26 years, I have never heard of anyone that did not want to take a position in Philippines. Perhaps that was back when it was occupied by the Japanese. LMAO

HW

KongKing
12-27-11, 09:13
In the R. P. Are apparent. I am not coming there with the intention of returning, IF I come at all. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.That's great news Turdycurdyone. All encouragement to you to look at and move onto another country. You repeatedly say you do not like the Philippines, and now you find the friendliness of the Filipina is an illusion. So please quickly move on and leave the Philippines, Filipina, and this Forum, to guys who appreciate this country.

Cheapy
12-27-11, 10:25
That's great news Turdycurdyone. All encouragement to you to look at and move onto another country. You repeatedly say you do not like the Philippines, and now you find the friendliness of the Filipina is an illusion. So please quickly move on and leave the Philippines, Filipina, and this Forum, to guys who appreciate this country.Try Iraq, Iran or Pakistan. Friendly girls and sweet guys just for you. LOL

Member #4491
12-27-11, 18:58
GE, KK and all the other guys constantly posting positive reports of the Philippines are paid PR agents that are here only to lure people to travel to this hell hole. I have met them and seen their illusive smiles, sipping cheap red wine pored into expensive bottles, while they sugar coat the life offered in this war zone. Do not trust these gentlemen. They will corrupt you.

They fooled me to return over and over again, wasting my precious dollars and time. I neglected all the warnings and words of wisdom from more trustworthy sources, and took immense personal risk while chasing passive aggressive psychopaths, often with drug addictions and false tits.

Turdycurdyone and everyone else even considering the Philippines, hear the truth from Barba. It is not worth the risk! Davao is the worst place of them all. You are absolutely correct about this country of false, backstabbing sociopaths. The sex is lousy as well, if you even will manage to score. Most guys come with their expectations high, only to find themselves masturbating themselves to sleep every night. There are so many better options for safe and clean sex.

Attached you find pictures of one of Satan's teenage children that had my head twisted 180 degrees. I hold Mr GoodEnough personally responsible for getting me drunk on red wine and making me make her dress up like this.

Finland here I come. A clean, safe and honest country!

Barba

TurdyCurdyOne
12-27-11, 19:51
No doubt we have all heard a Filipina exclaim " but you promised me" many times in our lives.

For those not familiar with the Philippines (TC1 take note here) , a conversation with a Filipina can touch upon many subjects, but if any one of those subjects / words is of remote interest to said Filipina, and involves a possible gain for her, its taken to be a promise.

From a Western aspect, the words " I promise" create a binding obligation.

From a Filipina aspect the words " at some stage in the future I might possibly or ocassionally think about this " creates the perception of a promise.

In the spirit of Christmas I sent a " Mery Christmas " to all my YM fucks, both new and old. One such girl who I hadn't chatted with for over a year sent me back a " Freebie, you lied to me " reply.

And then told me I had promised her a job.

The conversation I had had with her, related to her requesting a job from me (admittedly my pants were down and she had just blown me in Sogo) and me replying along the lines of " sure I check and see if we have any vacancies "

So the next time you are said to have made a promise, ask your Filipina what her understanding of a promise is vs yours.

Got all that TC1?Yeah I noticed the SAME thing; thanks for reminding me of it again. No matter how clear I try to make what IS a committment and what is NOT, they will IMAGINE that I have made one. When your desperate in a desperate Country, your mind plays tricks on you.

Sorry, not my problem; I will take steps to make sure they do not MAKE IT my problem.

Funny how several of the guys here seem to know the substance of my chatting. Wonder how many are running chat scams with Filipina partners, or maybe posing as Filipinas themselves, or sniffing chat connections? Hmmmm, food for thought. Got all that FF?

Ebauche
12-27-11, 23:55
Violating my own standards and feeding the troll.


Funny how several of the guys here seem to know the substance of my chatting. Wonder how many are running chat scams with Filipina partners, or maybe posing as Filipinas themselves, or sniffing chat connections? Hmmmm, food for thought. Got all that FF?More likely those of us with relevant "field experience" recognize very familiar patterns of Pinay behavior.


In the R. P. Are apparent. I am not coming there with the intention of returning, IF I come at all. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.You obviously have absolutely no experience with Pinays other than your one-handed chat room escapades. Yes, there are scamming Internet cafe girls. There are also very lovely and loving women of all educational and economic levels both in and out of the PI. If you want to be truly spoiled emotionally and sexually, take a Pinay DH or office worker as a GF in a place like Singapore. For the price of merely paying attention to her - A nice lunch, a movie, being nice to her friends - She will screw you six ways from Sunday and take care of any sexual AND non-sexual need you might have. Just don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off.

Additionally, even though you cling to that which you've "read" believing it makes you an expert on all things Pinay, you ignore serious writings and advice on retirement written extensively. Number one recommendation. NEVER commit to a retirement locale without vacationing there a number of times to "test drive." you should no more blindly move to Makati than you would Miami, Phuket than you would Phoenix.

However, I encourage you to go ahead and shift focus. Just stay the hell away from Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. You'd be miserable there too.

Charlie Horse
12-28-11, 01:28
Hot photo, but the text gets a little confusing. 5-4 128lbs

http://www.dateinasia.com/balli.html

Looking for someone to meet and hope to find true love.

Hi there. Pretty and stunning lady here looking for someone to meet and see what happens. I'm fashionable, I'm sexy and sweet, well educated and I got class. But am very down to earth person so, you can bring me where ever you want. I do modeeling and I joind beauty pageants. If you like me, don't hesitate to contact me.

I want to meet a Male.

With age from 18 to 80.

And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.

I want to meet someone who can accept me as who I am and most specially my gender. Am looking for someone sweet, romantice and very passionate. Someone who can treat me like her very own princess. I want to meet someone serious but very naughty and hot in bed. Someone who can truly love me. If that's you. Please contact me. No bullshits please

Mr Enternational
12-28-11, 03:49
Hot photo, but the text gets a little confusing. 5-4 128lbs.

http://www.dateinasia.com/balli.html

Hi there. Pretty and stunning lady here looking for someone to meet and see what happens. I'm fashionable, I'm sexy and sweet, well educated and I got class.Come on man. No woman is going to toot her own horn and say how good she looks being a woman.


I want to meet someone who can accept me as who I am and most specially my gender.And after reading this sentence I am surprised you even wasted band width posting this.

Hairy Wonder
12-28-11, 03:59
Charlie Horse,

I think Mr. E is onto something there referring to the "gender" comment in the profile.

TurdyCurdyOne
12-28-11, 06:21
Violating my own standards and feeding the troll.

More likely those of us with relevant "field experience" recognize very familiar patterns of Pinay behavior.Ok you must the expert because you think you are. How long have you lived in the R. P?

Sounds like you're not even there, but in Singapore.


You obviously have absolutely no experience with Pinays other than your one-handed chat room escapades. Yes, there are scamming Internet cafe girls. There are also very lovely and loving women of all educational and economic levels both in and out of the PI. If you want to be truly spoiled emotionally and sexually, take a Pinay DH or office worker as a GF in a place like Singapore. For the price of merely paying attention to her. A nice lunch, a movie, being nice to her friends. She will screw you six ways from Sunday and take care of any sexual AND non-sexual need you might have. Just don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off.And you obviously have a much higher opinion of yourself than I do. Go ahead and continue to pay for her meals while her relatives tag along, ok by me. Actually, most Pinays are not so free with their ssnnaattcchh as you like to portray here. In fact most won't even give you a flash show on cam unless they consider you marriage potential and think you will spend the 60, 000 and more to travel 8, 000 miles to meet them. It's a very Catholic Country; when you get laid it's because you are laying $$$ on them or they think they might land a rich foreigner for the long con. They DO like to ssccrreeww though, but like most women they must judge you to have some potential for a good return.


That's pretty apparent.Additionally, even though you cling to that which you've "read" believing it makes you an expert on all things Pinay, you ignore serious writings and advice on retirement written extensively. Number one recommendation. NEVER commit to a retirement locale without vacationing there a number of times to "test drive." you should no more blindly move to Makati than you would Miami, Phuket than you would Phoenix.I can only guess you consider me as stupid as the ladies you try to sleep with for the price of a dinner for them and their relatives / friends. Despite you many delusions, I am not.

Worry about yourself stuck in a Country that is bound to disappoint after the inital glow wears off from all the ladies who think all Westerners are their answer to financial security for them and theirs. I know what I'm doing.


However, I encourage you to go ahead and shift focus. Just stay the hell away from Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. You'd be miserable there too.Singapore is facist-don't get caught chewing gum or criticizing their facist leaders or you will get a taste of what they REALLY think about you.

Malaysia is too expensive for tiny ladies with no breasts.

Indonesia, now that might be a good option to the R. P. Cheaper, better morals / values, except for the Muslim extremists, but the R. P. Has their fare share of those as witnessed by the several Westerners shot dead and bombs over the last couple years.

FreebieFan
12-28-11, 06:34
And you obviously have a much higher opinion of yourself than I do. Go ahead and continue to pay for her meals while her relatives tag along, ok by me. Actually, most Pinays are not so free with their ssnnaattcchh as you like to portray here. In fact most won't even give you a flash show on cam unless they consider you marriage potentialI can only guess you consider me as stupid Worry about yourself stuck in a Country that is bound to disappoint after the inital glow wears off from all the ladies who think all Westerners are their answer to financial security for them and theirs. I know what I'm doing.I guess the Philippines that I KNOW, have VISITED in 143 times in past 30 years and the same place that I've LIVED in for 5 years must be different to the one that you know.

For entertainment, read my Philippines trip reports (you can read the SHanghai / HK / Singapore / Malaysia / Indonesia / also as they are similar) , where I've met many many many Filipinas and were heading to a motel within 30 minutes of meeting.

Not a mention of marriage, not a mention of money, just a good honest lay.

I truly enjoy my world and my life and I'm certainly not afraid to take risks, hence the fact I have a thriving business in Manila along with some high end property, and at least 6 chicas that will happily go with me whenever I appear in Manila.

The biggest risk you seem to take though is attempting to justify why you lack the "cojones" to actually get on a plane and go and experience life. Your endless rants as to why you can't do that, appear to be like the sad shy lonely guy sitting in the edge of the party watching everyone else enjoy but lacks the courage to actually say Hi to anyone.

PS Malaysian don't have small breasts, at least not the Malays and not the Indians. How do I know. Oh yes because I lived there for over 5 years. Ever been?

Makeupaname
12-28-11, 07:01
How do you add someone to the ignore list?

Ebauche
12-28-11, 09:19
How do you add someone to the ignore list?"View Profile"

"Add to Ignore List"

Ebauche
12-28-11, 10:29
ok you must the expert because you think you are.do you even see the irony in your statement?


actually, most pinays are not so free with their ssnnaattcchh as you like to portray here. in fact most won't even give you a flash show on cam unless they consider you marriage potential and think you will spend the 60, 000 and more to travel 8, 000 miles to meet them.ahhhh. i see. i must be doing it wrong by meeting them face-to-face. i'd estimate my "hit rate" in bedding an overseas pinay on the first date at probably 75. the misses are about 50/50 my choice. didn't click, too clingy, just not my type, etc.

never given family money, ever. i know that would/will change once i'm in a ltr actually in the pi. from elsewhere, if she want to send her money, i don't care. she's not sending mine. my exposure is limited to treating a pinay nicely, just like i would any date. and if it means buying a round or too for her mates, no problem. being seen by her peers as nice and respectful pays massive kinky dividends. something you wouldn't understand unless you've experienced it.


it's a very catholic country; when you get laid it's because you are laying $$$ on them or they think they might land a rich foreigner for the long con. they do like to ssccrreeww though, but like most women they must judge you to have some potential for a good return.actually, for most overseas pinays, the big attraction is just to be with a man who treats them with respect and dignity. they tend to be treated like chattel by their employers. and tend to not be treated with respect and dignity by pinoys. and the catholic thing tends to work to our advantage. they actually truly believe confessional absolution allows them to sin to their hearts content. completely different perspective on guilt than their western counterparts.


i can only guess you consider me as stupid as the ladies you try to sleep with for the price of a dinner for them and their relatives / friends. despite you many delusions, i am not.actually, i consider you stupider.


singapore is facist-don't get caught chewing gum or criticizing their facist leaders or you will get a taste of what they really think about you.and this is why i consider you more stupid. in many ways sg is societally and economically superior to the good old usa. vibrant economy, incredibly diverse and tolerant, economic support for lower socio-economic strata based on inclusion and individual ownership rather than socialist handouts and income redistribution.

and best to upgrade your subscription to your "just add water" instant opinion reading material. chewing, or even possessing chewing gum is not at all illegal in sg.


malaysia is too expensive for tiny ladies with no breasts.sigh. plenty of mammarial variety in malaysia just like anywhere. did you know asians of any ethnic subgroup can and do have big tits? japanese with full pendulous b / c/d-cups? chinese with full perky tits on tight tiny frames? voluptuous vietnamese? i know a danang milf. best cocksucker i've ever experienced- who opted for breast reduction! indonesians whose curves above and below make overfed americans look grotesque? ahhh, but you have to see that with your own eyes wouldn't you.


indonesia, now that might be a good option to the r. p. cheaper, better morals / values, except for the muslim extremists, but the r. p. has their fare share of those as witnessed by the several westerners shot dead and bombs over the last couple years.wow. just wow. can't wait to see what armchair opinions you develop once you read up on the big durian.


you've been beating this same horse going on 3 years now, right?

Tanglin
12-28-11, 11:19
And this is why I consider you more stupid. In many ways SG is societally and economically superior to the good old USA. Vibrant economy, incredibly diverse and tolerant, economic support for lower socio-economic strata based on inclusion and individual ownership rather than socialist handouts and income redistribution.Wow. I thought this guy might do better in this forum because he's obviously the master of the one-handed chat experience. But he's just as opinionated about things he knows nothing about here as he was in the other Philippine forum.

I guess he should come over to the Singapore forums and school us rubes on how things really work in The Little Red Dot.

Jbiz979
12-28-11, 12:20
The Philippines will not be for everyone. Culture although is heavyly influenced by the west their are interesting cultural norms. Example saving face the average Pinay doesn't consider herself to be selling sex no matter how obvious it is to us gents so to out a Pinay on this is just asking to ruin a potential good time, also dating sites like DIA or FC or just tit bits of what you can enjoy with a Pinay to really appreciate them you have to go to the Philippines and stay there an extensive amount of time because you get the gambit of weirdos on any dating site and you get the worst of the worst sometimes Ladyboys, Scammers and out right Liars. Like any country the Gems are few and you may not find the gems on a dating site, you might find her walking in a mall, working at an hospital a secretary at a Makati firm etc. So I understand when a gent has a negative view of Pinays when their Only experience is through a chat site where they are dealing with extreme impoverished women who have no other choice than to ask or beg you for money, it is a turn off but thats a few women in a country of 93 million people. You certainly can get free sex if your reasonably attractive and have a descent personality but lets be realistic women basicly or the same no matter their culture or racial make up certain things are expected from the men they date, I live in the US I'm 29 years old I still date and cash out a minimum of 65 bucks on a date and that does not include guarenteed sex or even a good time for that matter but its the way of the world. In the Philippines the likely hood of you getting laid after shelling out half of that is in the upper 90 percentage rate and almost guarenteed if you shell out the whole 65 unless your dating an upper class well off Pinay. The point is that no matter the women or what part of the world she is from your paying something even if its just the flight and hotel stay, dinner, movies, drinks etc. It comes down ultimately to getting the biggest Bang for your Buck.

GoodEnough
12-28-11, 12:31
Nicely done Ebauche. The more I read of this guy's rants, the more I suspect he's an American redneck, as he expresses somewhat the same sorts of mindless bigotry and ill-informed opinions that I associate with them. His statements about Singapore are hilarious. I guess he's not read much on Cambodia or we'd be hearing his useless judgments about that country as well.

GE

Gangles
12-28-11, 14:16
I think that Ebauche is correct in his asessment of Singapore.

I first passed through there in 1973. The Singapore of old. Wild, lawless, poveerty, a mess. If you had your pocket picked, and your wallet stolen, you would buy it back at the thieves market next day. Everything in it except the money.

Then Lee Kwan Yew came to power in 1974 (while I was at Ohio State) , and when I went back through Singapore in 1975, it was so clean that you could eat your breakfast off the street.

He set long term development policies for the country. No natural resources. So he capitalised on what they had. People and strategic location.

And today it is a powerhouse. Just go there, look at the industry, shipping, air, logistics hub. People live well, everything is clean and works.

I have enormous admiration for Singapore, and also Malaysia. Both followed the same model.

Turn poverty into wealth.

My friend just came back to Australia from a visit to New York. He said that even in fromnt of the ritzy buuildings in 5th Ave, there are people living in the streets, newspapers stuffed into the arms of their coats to keep out the wind.

No comparison.

Hope versus fear.

G.


Wow. I thought this guy might do better in this forum because he's obviously the master of the one-handed chat experience. But he's just as opinionated about things he knows nothing about here as he was in the other Philippine forum.

I guess he should come over to the Singapore forums and school us rubes on how things really work in The Little Red Dot.

WestCoast1
12-28-11, 19:33
Malaysia is too expensive for tiny ladies with no breasts.

Indonesia, now that might be a good option to the R. P. Cheaper, better morals / values, except for the Muslim extremists, but the R. P. Has their fare share of those as witnessed by the several Westerners shot dead and bombs over the last couple years.Ya its easy to say SE asian ladies have smaller breasts. This must be one of TC1's small-breasted girls in Jakarta (hotel Atlet Century). Hahaha. No good morals on this gal (look who she's sleeping and posing with!). No muslim extremism here (she's catolic). TC1 was right about the bombs: she exploded, then I exploded.

Things are cheaper in Indonesia? That's news. Take a look at hotel, food, and apartment prices.

Ebauche
12-28-11, 22:35
Nicely done Ebauche. The more I read of this guy's rants, the more I suspect he's an American redneck, as he expresses somewhat the same sorts of mindless bigotry and ill-informed opinions that I associate with them. His statements about Singapore are hilarious. I guess he's not read much on Cambodia or we'd be hearing his useless judgments about that country as well.

GEHere's my guess. And it is only a guess. Doubt the Troll will confirm or refute.

American. Guessing somewhere in the SW, reasonably convenient to the Mexican Frontera sinced he claims to have vast experience in border town action.

Older, but not that old. Retired early. Earlier than planned. Likely because he lost his job or was forced into retirement. Couldn't find a new position at comparable compensation so retired. Either in public service / education or in manufacturing.

Divorced. Given the curmudgeonly crank was suddenly no longer trudging to the job he disliked and was now constantly underfoot yet not bringing home the bacon anymore, the Better Half decided to get rid of his ass. As a result, her lawyer took him for far more than he thought possible, but frankly for less than she deserved for putting up with his ass for so many unpleasant years. She might have been laying ground work for the split for quite some time with him unaware.

Retired now in far less splendor than he'd dreamed. Pension, but diminished since early and he either shares it with the Ex or he had to buy her out. Other investments are in the tank like all of us given global economy.

Looking to find somewhere to stretch his retirement $. And looking for a partner who will be both subservient & docile as well as capable of earning a reasonable buck to contribute to his retirement and their household. Ironically he's much like a Pinoy in that regard, seeking to live off of his mate's earnings.

Does have experience outside the USA, but more limited in reality than it is in his mind (compared to many who have traveled numerous continents and countries). But, he does understand the world isn't just like home. But he want to find the cheapest place he can that is as much like the USA as possible, without the expense or demanding American women, wants to live abroad, but unwilling to assimilate or blend in. Must be on his terms.

Gives Pinay chat girls money because he thinks he is being nice. Thinks he is doing it on his terms and that it will pay off "when" he finally makes his move.

He will never even visit the PI, much less move there. But he'll keep a few cam girls in business sending them money on his terms.

Just my guess.

PS. Gangles - Tanglin & I are in agreement re SG & the Troll.

Member #4643
12-28-11, 22:40
Can we agree that Turdycurdyone is a member whose contributions should be ignored?

I am an avid reader of the Philippines board, and I am saddened by the fact that so much time and effort is wasted addressing his grievances. HE SHOULD BE IGNORED.

I suggest that he start his own thread (which no one would ever read unless one were drunk and in a very foul mood). Whenever we needed to let loose a "fuck you asshole!" or "why don't you put a stick in your grandmother's ****?" we could go to that thread, write something terrible and decompress.

I have only been to Manila once. I believe the place is the best mongering spot on the planet. Non-pros and semi-pros (the ones I love) especially are easy there. The few pros I met were awesome.

PLEASE, IGNORE Turdycurdyone. Let's get back to the important business of exchanging information for men who are really interested in having sex with women.

WestCoast1
12-29-11, 01:45
Can we agree that Turdycurdyone is a member whose contributions should be ignored?Yes.


PLEASE, IGNORE Turdycurdyone.But, but, but I was just getting started with the sarcastic big-boobed asian chik pix. D-Cups is going to be disappointed.

Hairy Wonder
12-29-11, 02:47
I totally agree with makeupaname and Forest. While wasting time on debating with this idiot TC1, we are all missing out on what this forum is here for, discussing the great pussy available in the Philippines. Let's all just ignore him and enjoy the girls like we did before he appeared. If nobody responds to his rants, hopefully he will get bored of reading his own posts and go away.

HW

TurdyCurdyOne
12-29-11, 03:39
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Ebauche
12-29-11, 04:03
Yes.

But, but, but I was just getting started with the sarcastic big-boobed asian chik pix. D-Cups is going to be disappointed.Heyheyhey now, what about disappointing ME?

I'm done feeding the Troll.

TurdyCurdyOne
12-29-11, 04:08
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

FreebieFan
12-29-11, 05:51
Heyheyhey now, what about disappointing ME?

I'm done feeding the Troll.Hes on my ignore list. Been on this board for past 15 years plus under a few names and hes the first one I ever put on Ignore.

WestCoast1
12-29-11, 08:40
Heyheyhey now, what about disappointing ME?

I'm done feeding the Troll.You guys know how I hate to disappoint.

WestCoast1
12-30-11, 04:52
Got some PM's about the pictured busty lady whose soul is smitten with Turdy, asking if she's available in AC. She lives in Jakarta. I posted her to show TC1 that you will find busty ladies anywhere (assuming you are there to look them in the eye and ask them on a date).

#5015.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1231134&viewfull=1#post1231134

X Man
12-30-11, 05:41
DIA gal who is "serious"about love or something. Only 18 and I missed the age cutoff. I sent her a msg and asked if she had a friend. She asked me what my purpose was. I replied,"a date in asia". Two texts later she suggests we meet at "the hotel". I like her flexibility.

X

KongKing
12-30-11, 06:14
Without s / he actually saying "I am a ladyboy" here is a DateInAsia profile with all the give away signs:

http://www.dateinasia.com/itsmenic.html

Profile:

Height 162cm (5'4") [usually 5'4"and above]

Weight 60kg (32lbs) [usually above 50kg]

Description: "I'm a social person". Using "person" and not girl or woman or female.

"a person who will accept me for what and who I am".

Photo:

Often a dress covering a lack of cleavage. Sometimes an Adam's apple is visible; and sometimes hidden by a dog collar. Hair style is usually shorter. Eyebrows usually heavier.

KongKing

Barek
12-30-11, 11:25
Great pics and tits from a nice Titie, West Coast.

Is she Indo?

Cheers and have a great 2012.

Barek

Philosophery
12-30-11, 13:47
The problem with your description KK is that a large percentage of ladyboys get boob jobs and many have operations to remove the Adams apple (especially in Thailand) although more and more LBs are getting this done in the Philippines as well.

Not trying to criticize you but thats my experience.


Without s / he actually saying "I am a ladyboy" here is a DateInAsia profile with all the give away signs:

http://www.dateinasia.com/itsmenic.html

Profile:

Height 162cm (5'4") [usually 5'4"and above]

Weight 60kg (32lbs) [usually above 50kg]

Description: "I'm a social person". Using "person" and not girl or woman or female.

"a person who will accept me for what and who I am".

Photo:

Often a dress covering a lack of cleavage. Sometimes an Adam's apple is visible; and sometimes hidden by a dog collar. Hair style is usually shorter. Eyebrows usually heavier.

KongKing

Member #4351
12-30-11, 15:26
I can't understand this obsession with figuring out who is a LB and who isn't. Who cares? I can't remember anyone posting that they were fooled and ended up in their room with a LB. So what's the big deal? I can only postulate that some members are so bored that they have nothing better to do with their time than dissect DIA profiles.

Member #4491
12-30-11, 15:33
Hello, folks. I hope I do not crush any toes here, but I always get annoyed by all the religious fanatics that try to impose their lifestyle and fantasy world on me. It happens frequently to me in the Philippines. One can however always use the religious fanatics illogical reasoning for a little humoristic twist. As a true Christian and good pinay you have to "accept people for who they are", no matter what, and "respect other peoples religions", right?

BARBA.

Hello, there pretty girl! (followed by the usual BS required to get a P4P date with a girl on Tagged)

JEMAY K.

FEAR GOD FIRST. I pray that one day you'll realize that you're doing a great sin, God loves you.

BARBA.

Guess that is a no. Smiley.

According to my religion, the Pastafarians, it is not a sin. You should respect other peoples religions!

If you wish to read more about my religion you can find information here:

http://www.venganza.org/about/

It is never wrong to try to understand other peoples beliefs, rather than to condemn them like you do. Try to have an open mind and accept people for what they are, also if they do not share your beliefs and religion!

As you can see we Pastafarians are getting more and more exposure every year, and people are beginningg to realize that the size of the meatballs actually do matters in some situations.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8635624/Pastafarian-wins-religious-freedom-right-to-wear-pasta-strainer-for-driving-licence.html

Happy new year!

/Barba

Member #4491
12-30-11, 15:43
Disregarding the general homophobic tendencies for a minute, I have a honest question that I want to toss up for anyone to comment on (including the admin).

What are the rules here on ISG regarding Ladyboys?

This board clearly states that it is her for the exchange of information about men meeting women. So promoting ladyboys is not allowed, even if they consider themselves female? What if they operated the dick away and now have a little fake love hole? Are they Ok to discuss then?

Barba

Barba,

This is the expanded version of the Forum's Mission Statement:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men who were always men on the subject of finding Women who were always women for Sex.

Please do not discuss Ladyboys, TV, TS, or any other related deviancy on my forum.

Thank You,

Jackson

Brymor
12-30-11, 16:01
I am with David_33 on this one, lets not get obsessive about them. I have had numerous messages from LBs on DIA I don't even bother to reply, I just block them.

WestCoast1
12-30-11, 16:35
Great pics and tits from a nice Titie, West Coast.

Is she Indo?

Cheers and have a great 2012.

BarekShe's Indo. Her face is a bit latina. Hips are pina. Boobs are all girlie.

Member #4491
12-30-11, 23:53
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men who were always men on the subject of finding Women who were always women for Sex.Got it Jackson. Thank you and happy new year!

Barba

Lamok
12-31-11, 10:10
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.

Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.

Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.

Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? But most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. Is that true?

So, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?

And what areas would be best. MNL / Cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?

Thanks in advance.

Nvslim
12-31-11, 11:36
Hello, folks. I hope I do not crush any toes here, but I always get annoyed by all the religious fanatics that try to impose their lifestyle and fantasy world on me. It happens frequently to me in the Philippines. One can however always use the religious fanatics illogical reasoning for a little humoristic twist. As a true Christian and good pinay you have to "accept people for who they are", no matter what, and "respect other peoples religions", right?

/Barba

I have the same problem here in the USA. I wish people Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. This snotty rather large red-neck woman at Walmart (yes, Walmart, I like to buy my fresh fruit and underwear in one stop) said I should say Merry Christmas, and I said why, I am not Christian. She said what are you a Jew? This pissed me off not because I am NOT Jews, but her red-neck attitude. :mad: I decided to fuck with her. I told her I was Reformed Druid and our holiday was the Winter Solstice. This confused the hell out of her. Reformed Druid what is that she asked? I told her we prayed to nature, the forces of the universe, and we did not have just one God. I explained we had to give up human sacrifice so are now Reformed Druids. Once again, I wished her Happy Holidays and entered to finish my holiday shopping. She just stood there with a goofy look on her fat red face.

By the way, I am not a Reformed Druid, just Agnostic. :D

Slim

Punter 127
12-31-11, 17:20
This is the expanded version of the Forum's Mission Statement:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men who were always men On the subject of finding Women who were always women For Sex.

Please do not discuss Ladyboys, TV, TS, or any other related deviancy on my forum.

Thank You,

JacksonThanks Jackson, I wish you would post this on every thread.

Sammon
12-31-11, 18:08
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.

Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.

Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.

Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? But most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. Is that true?

So, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?

And what areas would be best. MNL / Cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?

Thanks in advance.I have had very good success with DIA. So much so that on many trips I do not go to AC or bars to pick up girls. My time is spent with few young and willing beauties. I am sure many others here had had better experiences through DIA.

Most of us are looking for sex through dia girls. To answer to your questions,

1. Time wasters- Not really! This is a dating site, so they are not going to trust whatever you say. Some may not like the way you look. Some may not like the way you talk.

Mutual attraction is a must to continue chatting to see where it leads you.

2. Not sure if you are looking for life companion or short time deal. If you are looking for serious relation need to weed out many. Just concentrate on most promising ones.

For short time you need to start slowly to develop a friendship first. Do not mention anything like sex initially. Most Phi women will have sex if they agree to meet you. Once again if they like you in person.

I have had good luck even with those who said they will not have sex with me.

3. If they promise to make happy and show themselves naked initially it means they are pros. No innocent girl will do that.

4. Beautifull girls are everywhere not necessarily Cebu. But around cebu you will find more province girls. You are going to find illierate girls who cannot put 2 and 2 together. What they show on profile pic maybe completely different than in real person.

5. Better meet in bigger cities because there are better restaurents, hotels etc. More things to do as well.

6. Keep trying to chat with many. Some will fall in.

WestCoast1
12-31-11, 18:23
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.

Thanks in advance.I do have some thoughts to share with you, but they need to be shared in PM. You have time / money to spend playing in phils, but don't have $20 to get a subscription here? You have two posts under your belt (no real Field Reports for us yet) , and are asking questions? Newb:

1. Get a subscription, then PM me, and I'll give you some thoughts about DIA help.

2. Go there, and post a detailed Field Report about your experiences before asking for help. See any of McDon's recent / excellent descriptive reports.

3. THEN ask for help.

TurdyCurdyOne
12-31-11, 21:14
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.

Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.

Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.

Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? But most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. Is that true?

So, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?

And what areas would be best. MNL / Cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?

Thanks in advance.Do not accept what many here have to say about the R. P. They have vested profit and othe interests that motivate them to post exaggerated and false information about the P. I.

The head moderator of this board, I think his name is Jackson, practices censorship because members here cannot take what the dish out.

It was a much better board before he took it over when it was called wwoorrllddsseexxgguuiiddee owned by someone who was not profit motivated and did not censor posts.

To quote Jack Nicolson: You want the truth? YOu can't HANDLE the truth.

Message me privately and I will give the benefit of years experience on DIA.

This board will never get a dime of my money due to it's policy of discriminatory censorship against posts that burn their little hinnies to badly.

Mr Enternational
12-31-11, 21:54
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:28:07 PM) : ok.

May (12/31/2011 3:28:14 PM) : Hi.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:28:23 PM) : why you not sleep.

May (12/31/2011 3:28:35 PM) : just home from party.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:28:55 PM) : ok. Your bf did not go with you?

May (12/31/2011 3:29:02 PM) : I don't have.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:29:21 PM) : ok. You forget me. Or you busy with other man?

May (12/31/2011 3:37:52 PM) : sleepy.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:37:55 PM) : me too. You have cam?

May (12/31/2011 3:38:02 PM) : yyes.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:38:08 PM) : I want to see you.

May (12/31/2011 3:38:19 PM) : later.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:38:30 PM) : ok. We go to sleep now.

May (12/31/2011 3:38:31 PM) : you look good in the tub. I want to see inside.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:38:56 PM) : maybe you can see inside if I meet you in manila.

May (12/31/2011 3:39:08 PM) : yea. Are you coming here.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:39:29 PM) : yes. Next month. But maybe you too busy.

May (12/31/2011 3:39:52 PM) : you have your flight? When you will be here? Where you will staying.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:42:37 PM) : ermita. Or maybe I stay at your house.

May (12/31/2011 3:42:50 PM) : LOL\

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:44:01 PM) : you want?

May (12/31/2011 3:44:15 PM) : I don't have a home. I lived in a boarding house.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:44:40 PM) : no problem. I stay there with you.

May (12/31/2011 3:45:55 PM) : LOL.

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?

May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH U

Pute Nut
12-31-11, 22:15
When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery.Yeah, if only other things in life were as easy as making a DIA pickup.

Member #4491
12-31-11, 23:31
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1231998.

By the way, I am not a Reformed Druid, just Agnostic. .

Slim[/QUOTE]I will wish really hard (almost like praying) for You to see the power of the meatballs of the Flying Spaghetti Monster so also You can become a whole human.

If you change the name of the alpha figure in the sky, this quote could be from a girl in Davao that both me and a friend here on ISG fucked at least twice each. She goes on with all her religious bullshit and even says she has never been with a man or that she has not been with a man since last time she was with me or my friend, depending on who is pumping her at the moment. Total hypocrite that is so crazy she even believes all this shit, even if she will suck down four SML and fuck your brains out later. She is not that pretty either, but has nice firm big tits. First time I did her she was very tight. Do not remember the second that good.

First time I fucked her was after she invited herself to "see my room". I fucked her for some minutes and then she thought it was time to go back to her friends on Torres and brag about her achievement. I did not care. Like the sweet unused smell of her pussy, but did not care for cumming all that much. For some reason I did her bareback and it was like sticking the cock in a jar of marmalade. Dripping down her legs. I tested myself and it was not clam or something that made her drip (that time). Before inviting herself to my room, she twisted both my arms hard to come and meet her friends and share a warm red horse on Torres on the Day of Davao. I was indifferent from many hard days of sex. She paraded me, the only phorigner, in the club like I was some sort of film star, and the cameras went off all the time. All friends where around 22-24 and all girls had a couple of kilos extra, so they where not used to the attention I guess. Maybe that was why she was so eager to walk me back as well."Can I hold your arm like you are my boyfriend?"."Fuck no, this is Torres and god knows who will see Barba here." She held it anyway.

Just a couple of days later she banged my friend and then me again, and actually told me that she only remember that they got drunk but not if they had sex. I met her on DIA and we still chat occasionally, but mostly because she has a teenage friend she considers "her sister", that I want to "get to know better". Let me know if you want to see this plump brainwashed bimbo and I will send you the details I have. Not P4P but rather the dating game. She has a decent job within some finance / admin and never asked for, or received, money from me as I recall. Meet her at your own risk of being fed religious "I am a good girl" crap, before you rip her panties off and fuck her dripping pussy hard. Can be a good spice if you are into these kind of paradoxes.

Happy New Year!

Barba.

Stroker Ace88
01-01-12, 01:58
When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?

May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH UFilipinas are famous for agreeing to almost everything online. They have many chat conversations at the same time and many fishing lines in the water with guys hoping to land someone. Typically they will agree to things and seem very happy you will visit them. Most are unable or unwilling to upset a guy with the word 'no' since they can't tell at the begining who is serious. Since the vast waters of the asia online dating pool are somewhat murky, with at my best guesstimate around 15% of guys online who are serious and will actually visit the Philippines.

The girls learn quickly that alot of the guys are not serious. Most of the girls will only get excited when you send them a text from a Philippines based SIMcard. Even then most will have to ask again who you are and where you know her from. While some girls will be ready and willing to meet and come to your room at the drop of a hat, very often circumstances are not in your favor.

Expect alot of excuses, 'my mom is sick, I'm sick, I have school work now, we have family emergency, I have OJT work now, no money for jeep, I have period, ect, ect' And the very famous, 'I'm not in Manila. I'm back in the province come here k'. If you have a whole list of contacts that meet your requirements, double or triple it and that's for the big cities. If you travel to places in the province make sure those lists of contacts are big enough to withstand all the excuses, no-shows and girls who will meet you but refuse to go any further.

Some will be more than happy to meet, and it will depends on how good your game is and if you are gwapo or not to get them to your room and into your bed. Again YMMV and some guys will have no problem getting girls and others will struggle. Some girls will meet you and then deny they ever agreed staying with you in your room or anything naughty. Even if you pull out your laptop and show her your chat conversations where she gives you naughty details of the things that will happen, she could brush it off. Shit happens so be prepared.

WestCoast1
01-01-12, 03:31
Some girls will meet you and then deny they ever agreed staying with you in your room or anything naughty. Even if you pull out your laptop and show her your chat conversations where she gives you naughty details of the things that will happen, she could brush it off. Shit happens so be prepared.Had the best of luck with this very game for many years. For several years, I had exactly one girl agree to a meet / screw, then she backed out at a Starbucks. Two hours later, as I was deep into a different girl, the first girl starts txting the rest of the afternoon that she's changed her mind and wants to come to the room. Other guys would write in here and say they struck out with this and that girl, and I would think: whats wrong with that guy? I was starting to think I should call Brad Pitt and give him some pointers.

Then I hit CDO for the first time some months back. Talk about getting taken down a notch or two. Sitting at the Starbucks at Lemkatki Mall, my first date arrives at 11am. With the unannounced friend. As with every girl I meet, she has agreed in advance to the meet / screw. 20 minutes into a latte and chat, I realize its going nowhere. I mention I'm going back to the hotel, and does she want to come with me, or not? She politely declined."We not knowing each other. Need more dating first." I reminded her that we had agreed to quick hotel time."No. You misunderstand me." No need to argue, I thank them for their time. Its 11:30am. Text girl #2, who magically walks up at 11:50am. With her cousin. Couple more lattes, same routine from the girl: "Never did I say to your hotel." Thanks for your time ladies. Thank goodness it was over in 10 minutes. Girl #3 says she'll be there at 1pm, alone, so I walk the mall slowly, not a single look in my direction from anyone ('86' that call to Mr. Pitt). Back after lunch at 1pm, get the usual "Wait me" txts. She shows at 1:35, with another unannounced friend. Two more coffees, this time it took until just after 2pm to get: "No I not say I'm come on your hotel. You not understand when we chatting online." Thanks for your time, ladies. Back to the hotel for a shower, girl #4 says she'll be at starbucks at 4pm. Having a half hour to kill, I go online, look thru my chat transcripts, and email each girl the short section where she agreed to meet / bang. One of the girls even said she could bring her cousin for a threesome. Another gal mentioned wanting to try an adult toy. I'm about to go offline and head back to Starbucks when girl #2 comes online (the one who mentioned wanting a threesome in YM chat). We chat, I tell her to check her email. She does. Swear to god this is what she typed back after reading it: "Yes I said that. I agree then to your hotel. But I did not mean it at that time." Well, the little liar is suddenly very honest. I would get several similar responses in offline msgs over the next several days.

I think this is part of saving face. Difficulty saying "no" to someone while talking to them. I think this is the kind of thing Stroker is talking about. Many pinay are uncomfortable talking about sex ("do you like your pussy licked?") , and cringe inside. But instead of changing the subject or saying they are uncomfortable, they just say 'yes' to not upset the apple cart. BTW, I would strike out twice more at Starbucks that evening, and several times the next day. Never before had I wanted to chew Prozac pills like that.

Stroker Ace88
01-01-12, 05:58
Then I hit CDO for the first time some months back. Talk about getting taken down a notch or two. Sitting at the Starbucks at Lemkatki Mall,

I think this is part of saving face. Difficulty saying "no" to someone while talking to them. I think this is the kind of thing Stroker is talking about. Many pinay are uncomfortable talking about sex ("do you like your pussy licked?") , and cringe inside. But instead of changing the subject or saying they are uncomfortable, they just say 'yes' to not upset the apple cart. BTW, I would strike out twice more at Starbucks that evening, and several times the next day. Never before had I wanted to chew Prozac pills like that.WC,

I have not visited CDO, yet. I have visited Davao and had the same kind of experince there that you had in CDO. Girls backtracking with multiple strikeouts after meeting. These were girls who promised me action and we chatted for several weeks off and on before my arrival in Davao and made a connection. I thought my list of 10 contacts would be more than enough to get me through a week. Soooo wrong! I can honestly say I have never been so bombarded with requests for me to meet my chatmates in church the following Sunday. I declined the church meet & greets and got most to meet over a coffee. Suddenly all the sex kittens I chatted with had vanished.

I was left with one contact on my list who was running 26, already had a kid and was tall and thin. She seemed nice but no matter what I tried I couldn't close the deal. I took her to dinner and out to a few clubs two nights in a row but still she refused. At that point I just cut my losses and went back to more fertile ground with a bruise on my ego. I paid for my hotel with a reality cheque! The front desk girl at my hotel was surprised I was leaving early and informed me the extra day wouldn't be refunded and I couldn't care less.

I have come up with a new name for these kinds of girls, 'FLASH-BULB-FILIPINAS' or FBF for short. Seems alot of these girls will promise the moon, and have no plans to go through with it. All they desire is bragging rights to friends and family. When you meet, the girl will ask to take a few pics of you and her together. It's a pretty standard thing for filipinas to take a billion pics so it's no big deal but once the pics are taken as a trophy they have no desire to continue the date. They want to rush home and show everyone how cool they are because they met a foreign guy and broadcast the new trophy pics on facebook. I guess it's no different then some of us getting naughty pics from some of these girls as trophies.

Y'all watch for the FBF girls ya hear! ;)

Amjeck
01-01-12, 06:06
Yeah, if only other things in life were as easy as making a DIA pickup.Yah, like picking up models with such ease!