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WestCoast1
01-01-12, 08:27
I have come up with a new name for these kinds of girls, 'FLASH-BULB-FILIPINAS' or FBF for short. Seems alot of these girls will promise the moon, and have no plans to go through with it. All they desire is bragging rights to friends and family. When you meet, the girl will ask to take a few pics of you and her together. It's a pretty standard thing for filipinas to take a billion pics so it's no big deal but once the pics are taken as a trophy they have no desire to continue the date. They want to rush home and show everyone how cool they are because they met a foreign guy and broadcast the new trophy pics on facebook. I guess it's no different then some of us getting naughty pics from some of these girls as trophies.

Y'all watch for the FBF girls ya hear! .Interesting. They want pics of you together. I get that sometimes over the first cup of coffee. I don't let them take it with their cam, it always feels uncomfortable to me if we are not together in the room. I tell them we can take pics with my professional camera in the room and I'll email them. That will cut the conversation right there if the girl is not wanting to go to my room. FBF's.

Maantra
01-01-12, 19:25
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.

In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.

Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.

Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.

After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.

So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.

Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.

My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?

I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.

So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.

* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *

Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.

Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.

Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'

Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?

Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.

She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.

Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)

She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.

Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?

Mr Enternational
01-02-12, 04:34
When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:

Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?

May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH ULOL. Guys I can't stress enough how important it is to talk to these online chicks on cam before you meet. The girl from yesterday was a little cutie pie and had age 24, 5'4" 132lbs in her profile. Not to mention the picture on her yahoo messenger was nice as well. When she turned on the cam I was like what the FUCK! Now I have been known to hit some chicks that most guys would not "admit" to touching. As a matter of fact up until now I was thinking that Mortman should have hit the girl's sister that he recently referred to as a farm animal in the Cebu thread. But now... But now... Man this chick's picture had to be at least 15 years old because she looked to be at least 40 years old and at least 200 lbs. She had more chins than a Chinese phone book. I could just imagine waiting in the lobby of City State for her. I mean I'm a compassionate guy and all, but I would have passed out on the floor if it was the girl in the cam who had shown up in lieu of the girl in the profile photo. Whatever you do, make sure you do a cam check prior is all I can say.

Mr Enternational
01-02-12, 04:45
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time.

I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.My advice is to save your 8000 pesos and instead just fuck the mom for free and call it a day.

Stroker Ace88
01-02-12, 05:11
LOL. Guys I can't stress enough how important it is to talk to these online chicks on cam before you meet. The girl from yesterday was a little cutie pie and had age 24, 5'4" 132lbs in her profile. When she turned on the cam I was like what the FUCK! [snip]Man this chick's picture had to be at least 15 years old because she looked to be at least 40 years old and at least 200 lbs. She had more chins than a Chinese phone book. I could just imagine waiting in the lobby of City State for her. I mean I'm a compassionate guy and all, but I would have passed out on the floor if it was the girl in the cam who had shown up in lieu of the girl in the profile photo. Whatever you do, make sure you do a cam check prior is all I can say.Basic operating procedure to see the girl you are chatting with on cam. Spend the time to make sure she is indeed someone you are attracted to. That should be the first rule when you are dealing with girls from DIA where only one pic is posted, otherwise you could end up in baboy paradise. Huge red flag if she refuses to come on cam.

If you see her on cam and everything is ok, then ask for her facebook link and go check her out. Spend the time online so you don't have to waste it with girls you don't like.

Mc Don
01-02-12, 05:12
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.

In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.

Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.

Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.

After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.

So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.

Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.

My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?

I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.

So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.

* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *

Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.

Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.

Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'

Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?

Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.

She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.

Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)

She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.

Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?Holiday enough would have been FINE. I never pay the girl when I take her traveling. I would have tipped her maybe 2000 on the end for 4-5 days IF she was a performer but thats about it. I am also talking manila girls, where prices are more expensive, most cebu punters will probably say 500-1000 per day is enough.

You are doing a good deed here BUT remember:

1. Nothing is like it seems. Do you think 8K tuition money will be enough? I mean she will still need travel expenses, books and so on.

2. If her family is that poor don't assume money will go to school. I think money will end up in the family budget before she puts it towards education. You may care or may not but I think you should be aware of it.

3. If she has no father and no money she is unlikely to have contacts to threaten your freedom. I think we are all little paranoid and assume thats easily done but its not. You have money and if they start pushing I am sure you will quickly put your money at use and push back. They know that and unless they are a strong family they would not attempt to push you. I would have been more worried if she came from a good family and was in school, her mum dressed up nice and so on. If she is ghetto she wouldn't know or have the means to even work out how to threaten you.

4. Do not visit her place. From here on contact should be with her and her alone. Why would you want to visit if you are not serious? You will just waste your time, money and their time too.

5. Try her out before taking her on holiday. Last thing you want is dramas on a Negros resort or some other place where you will struggle to ditch and replace. I would spend a night with her (give her some of that 8000p for it) and then decide. She may be all nice now but can quickly turn once she realizes there is no competition to her around. Alarm bells should be her dumping the player (what the fuck does that make you?) after one ride and her crying. I never take girls that I haven't been intimate with for a while on trips, its better to do her few times in her city before going anywhere with her. Even then book one night at time in case she looses it you want to get her back home and replace her ass. If you chose to follow only one line from all that I have written make sure its this one. BOOK YOUR ACCOMMODATION ONE DAY AT A TIME.

6. Be aware that she will go back to you for money in few weeks when expenses start to pop out and if she can't afford to pay them she may again drop out of school. I have a girl in manila that is studying nursing and she gets hit with stupid things like red cross and other silly fees from time to time. Red cross or whatever it is is 1500 peso for instance. Hidden fees and expenses is where she will struggle if she has no other means. Again you may or may not care.

Mc Don
01-02-12, 05:19
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.

In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.

Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.

Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.

After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.

So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.

Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.

My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?

I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.

So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.

* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *

Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.

Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.

Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'

Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?

Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.

She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.

Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)

She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.

Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?Holiday enough would have been FINE. I never pay the girl when I take her traveling. I would have tipped her maybe 2000 on the end for 4-5 days IF she was a performer but thats about it. I am also talking manila girls, where prices are more expensive, most cebu punters will probably say 500-1000 per day is enough.

You are doing a good deed here BUT remember:

1. Nothing is like it seems. Do you think 8K tuition money will be enough? I mean she will still need travel expenses, books and so on.

2. If her family is that poor don't assume money will go to school. I think money will end up in the family budget before she puts it towards education. You may care or may not but I think you should be aware of it.

3. If she has no father and no money she is unlikely to have contacts to threaten your freedom. I think we are all little paranoid and assume thats easily done but its not. You have money and if they start pushing I am sure you will quickly put your money at use and push back. They know that and unless they are a strong family they would not attempt to push you. I would have been more worried if she came from a good family and was in school, her mum dressed up nice and so on. If she is ghetto she wouldn't know or have the means to even work out how to threaten you.

4. Do not visit her place. From here on contact should be with her and her alone. Why would you want to visit if you are not serious? You will just waste your time, money and their time too.

5. Try her out before taking her on holiday. Last thing you want is dramas on a Negros resort or some other place where you will struggle to ditch and replace. I would spend a night with her (give her some of that 8000p for it) and then decide. She may be all nice now but can quickly turn once she realizes there is no competition to her around. Alarm bells should be her dumping the player (what the fuck does that make you?) after one ride and her crying. I never take girls that I haven't been intimate with for a while on trips, its better to do her few times in her city before going anywhere with her. Even then book one night at time in case she looses it you want to get her back home and replace her ass. If you chose to follow only one line from all that I have written make sure its this one. BOOK YOUR ACCOMMODATION ONE DAY AT A TIME.

6. Be aware that she will go back to you for money in few weeks when expenses start to pop out and if she can't afford to pay them she may again drop out of school. I have a girl in manila that is studying nursing and she gets hit with stupid things like red cross and other silly fees from time to time. Red cross or whatever it is is 1500 peso for instance. Hidden fees and expenses is where she will struggle if she has no other means. Again you may or may not care.

Pute Nut
01-02-12, 05:28
She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.. And the next 99 times she also cried, but with joy, she forgot to tell you? Sorry, but personally I wouldn't just take that one coitus claim at face value. It could be anything between zero (YES I had one add a fictitious pinoy BF to her story, turned out she was a virgin) and a hundred BFs / fucks in reality. I'd say raise the number to an even 10 thou and take the MILF along.

Frenzy3
01-02-12, 08:46
Maantra. Move on to the next girl. Too much bull shit here. Just having the mom meet you is red flags. None what her mom and her said adds up. I feel a scam comming down.

Just offer 500 to 1000 for sex now do not take this girl on a trip. And use a condom as they can not go to hospital and claim you rapped her or that she is pregnant.

Mongerer69
01-02-12, 09:14
Hey guys I've been chatting this super hot little 27 year old Blonde Fillie. Penelope_scarlet. She is feisty and ready. I won't be back for a few months. She said she is Bi and can be the Devil. If anybody has their boots on the ground in Manila and wants to give it a shot it should be interesting. Keep us posted.

Dmyth
01-02-12, 10:26
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.

In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.

Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.

Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.

After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.

So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.

Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.

My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?

I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.

So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.

* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *

Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.

Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.

Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'

Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?

Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.

She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.

Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)

She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.

Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?Keep your 8000 don't be a sucker. No pussy is worth that kind of money unless your going to marry it.

Member #4351
01-02-12, 15:50
Well Maantra, first of all I would suggest you dig up $19. 95 to pay Jackson and formally join the forum. If you had done so you would I am sure, have received a number of PMs with a different outlook than the ISG politically correct usual pessimistic paranoid opinions which have been posted. I know many forum members who are helping out girls with their school fees with very positive results (I am one).

Mongerer69
01-02-12, 16:00
I'm sure you are not talking about DIA. Penelope_scarlet.


"She had more chins than a Chinese phone book"

Hahahahahah good one!

Member #4491
01-02-12, 18:41
I know many forum members who are helping out girls with their school fees with very positive results (I am one).One more here. Two girls right now on the pay roll, and it all evens out to approximately the same prices discussed here, just in a less shameful way for these student girls. You normally get what you pay for in life.

Maantra, my opinion is that you should trust your own judgement rather than these Bohol veterans. No idea who they are, but there is a high risk that years of alcohol consumption made them paranoid and with unclear judgements of their own motives.

I would not hesitate if I had the interest to take this girl to a four day vacation. I met quite a few girls in various circumstances, some including family visits in the jungle on my bike (as a friend. They get it anyway, especially when they see my ring on the finger) , and never had any problems. NEVER. Just be decent and respect that the feeling of shame makes people angry.

No need to terminate the relation if there is a chance for future fun and rewards for the girl. Especially no need for any kind of pre-termination to hedge against future dramas. What I mean is that you said that you are not marrying her once, and now you can just let her know that as long as she makes you happy, you will continue to help her. She will be your girlfriend or mistress. Keep the flame of hope burning as long as it deserves to be lite, and put it out with judgement, when this is due.

Your gut feeling is in fact a remarkable preintelectual statistical calculation apparatus, that helped us to stay alive for thousands of years.

If you posted your question because you have a nagging feeling that these people are not OK, but you are dying to get into a tight fanny, you should avoid them.

If you posted your question because you really feel right about this, but you just want additional assurance, you should just go for it!

And as Mc Don writes you should of course not bring an untested talent to a four day vacation.

Yet another opinion.

Barba

Maantra
01-02-12, 21:11
Thanks to Mr Enternational, McDon, Pute Nut, Frenzy3, Dmyth, David_33, and Barba for all the great comments. I appreciate the different viewpoints.

I think if this proceeds, it will be similar to what David_33 and Barba described, as an ongoing sponsorship role, as opposed to a one-time trip with payment. Also, she texted me today that she just got her mens, so any potential trip has been postponed.

I haven't gotten any specific bad feelings from her or her Mom. I just naturally tend toward suspicion when dealing with new individuals. Its kept me out of trouble for the past decade with travels in Asia and South America. I guess what I'm just struggling with here is making the transition from P4P mongering to the softer, relationship-based compensated dating model that has so much potential in other parts of the Phils.

I've done my time in Angeles, had tons of fun there, but I'm ready to expand my search for the sweeter nectar of girls away from the pro scene. And it's not the relationship that's the problem. I've had plenty of AW GFs back in the states, even dated a couple of PhilAms while in University back there. If anything, I'm too nice to the girls and they fall in love rather quickly. I'm the one who breaks it off and deals with the tears that follow. Which is exactly what I'm trying to avoid here.

Another problem of mine is that while I'm solidly middle aged (with the soft middle to prove it) I appear quite younger than my years. While this is hardly a thing to complain about, the result is that when girls see me, they instantly mentally drop me in the "potential husband" bracket. It happens all the fucking time. I can see it in their eyes.

Honestly I think the more mature monger is at an advantage here, because all he needs to do is treat the girl nice and take care of her, and she will perform and then leave when he pays her (as the old Charlie Sheen joke goes.) But with me they tend to stick around, with some trying to get their hooks in as far as they can. Not the worst problem in the world to have, I know.

But this compensated dating is new territory for me, which is why I'm treading so cautiously.

Thanks again for all the perspectives. I'll definitely post updates here.

Member #4351
01-02-12, 21:13
http://www.dateinasia.com/

Stroker Ace88
01-02-12, 21:51
Can someone let me know what DIA is? I know it's a website but do you have a link? Can't find the answer while RTFF!Hmmm you are not RTFF very hard! That question is asked alot, and DIA is talked about daily.

It's mentioned with full website name and URL just three pages back!


here is a DateInAsia profile.

http://www.dateinasia.com/[snip].html

GoodEnough
01-02-12, 23:19
Maantra, I go with Barba and David on this. If your gut is telling you that this girl is okay, it probably doesn't pay to over-analyze the situation. If you like her and she seems legitimate, then take her with you and have a great time. The Php8, 000 is nothing, and you have the added advantage of actually being able to help someone; to make a difference in her life by assisting with her education while enjoying her company at the same time. Life is not a zero sum game of course, and there's always a risk, but in this case is seems slight and the payoff seems solid so I would cease the internal debate and just go for it. There are lots of people here who have similar arrangements, and they seem to work out fine.

GE

WhatsUrName
01-03-12, 01:45
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.

In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.

Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.

Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.

After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.

So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.

Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.

My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?

I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.

So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.

* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *

Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.

Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.

Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'

Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?

Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.

She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.

Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)

She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.

Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?I vote go for it. Take the leap of faith.

McDon also made a good point about the money not winding up being spent on school. I remember a post awhile back about an ISG member sending a girl some money for school fees, but then her parents took the money and spent it on an older sister. Maantra, does it really matter what the family spends the money on? Just sayin'.

I suppose the good news is that if the school fees line is true, you get to pay another 8000 next semester, plus another 1000 for blahblah, plus another 2000 for blahblahblah. Then comes the dead caribou.

Gangles
01-03-12, 04:17
Maantra,

This is a fairly common situation, and as mentioned before, a number of guys sponsor students.

I am one of those.

Although she may be right in that tuition costs are 8, 000 per semester, there are usually other costs, like field trips, laboratory activities etc which can be more expensive than the tuition.

My deal with my student is that I pay tuition and school expencses, she pays the rest. And she must keep receipts for every payment. Also, she must scan and send to me her exam results.

For the first couple of semesters, I paid the tuition my self, direct to the school cashier. You could open a local bank account where you live, get an ATM card, and give / send it to her. That way, you know exactly what she has withdrawn, and when. And you control how much money you put into the account.

When we meet, which is irregularly, the first order of business is receipts. She pulls out receipts for all payments since our last meeting. I go through them with her, and ask an occasional question. In reality, my eyes have glazed over by now, but this keeps her honest. And the numbers do tally.

She is always a bit apprehensive at our meetings, not sure about what will happen, but usually we just have a nice night, make love and that is it. She studies hard, gets good grades, and often I am visiting at exam time. So I just let her study in the room, and I read.

She send exam results for the semester just finished, and also send a list of subjects that she will take for the next semester. This means that I am monitoring performance, and she knows it.

She always enrols in summer break classes to shorten her time, and has done equally well in these as well.

So it has worked out well for both of us. In terms of dollars per sex unit, I am among the high payers, but from my perspective, I am contributing to the wellbeing of the country overall.

When she finishes, in March, I will be looking for another student to sponsor. This time from, science, engineering, architecture, something like that.

So I suggest that you make a clear arrangement with the girl as to what you will pay, and what you will not.

Also keep in mind that the Filipino culture is basically that of the hunter gatherer, so forward planning is not their forte. So she will likely have no idea in advance of what her costs will be, and she will be sending requests for money on short notice. So hav some way that you can send money quickly.

Go for it.

G.


First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.

In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.

I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.

Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.

Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.

After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.

So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.

Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.

My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?

I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.

So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.

* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *

Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.

Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.

Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'

Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?

Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.

But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.

She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.

Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)

She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.

Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?

GregLondon
01-03-12, 11:35
thanks to mr enternational, mcdon, pute nut, frenzy3, dmyth, david_33, and barba for all the great comments. i appreciate the different viewpoints.

i think if this proceeds, it will be similar to what david_33 and barba described, as an ongoing sponsorship role, as opposed to a one-time trip with payment. also, she texted me today that she just got her mens, so any potential trip has been postponed.

i haven't gotten any specific bad feelings from her or her mom. i just naturally tend toward suspicion when dealing with new individuals. its kept me out of trouble for the past decade with travels in asia and south america. i guess what i'm just struggling with here is making the transition from p4p mongering to the softer, relationship-based compensated dating model that has so much potential in other parts of the phils.

i've done my time in angeles, had tons of fun there, but i'm ready to expand my search for the sweeter nectar of girls away from the pro scene. and it's not the relationship that's the problem. i've had plenty of aw gfs back in the states, even dated a couple of philams while in university back there. if anything, i'm too nice to the girls and they fall in love rather quickly. i'm the one who breaks it off and deals with the tears that follow. which is exactly what i'm trying to avoid here.

another problem of mine is that while i'm solidly middle aged (with the soft middle to prove it) i appear quite younger than my years. while this is hardly a thing to complain about, the result is that when girls see me, they instantly mentally drop me in the "potential husband" bracket. it happens all the fucking time. i can see it in their eyes.

honestly i think the more mature monger is at an advantage here, because all he needs to do is treat the girl nice and take care of her, and she will perform and then leave when he pays her (as the old charlie sheen joke goes.) but with me they tend to stick around, with some trying to get their hooks in as far as they can. not the worst problem in the world to have, i know.

but this compensated dating is new territory for me, which is why i'm treading so cautiously.

thanks again for all the perspectives. i'll definitely post updates here.the girl's story is very much the standard fare for the phils. it is almost certainly only half (at best) true. paying tuition is a standard issue medium sized financial gambit. 8k is enough for the basic tuitrion costs for a non expensive subject per semistre but she would also need 4-8k for exams, trips, practicals etc etc. she may well be low mileage but the 1 bf 1 time line is most probably not true, its the sort of thing that many girls will say whether its true or not.

she sounds like a good prospect but for sure try her 1 or 2 night s in town before you take her away for 4 days. 8k is on the high side if you are taking her to an all expenses paid holiday, most girls would go for 1k per night.

sponsoring education is a nice idea but get to know her quite abit better before you sign up to that and you need to have a procedure such as gangles suggests if you want the money to go on education rather than general family expenses. '

the pay up or marriage story sounds like bs. the main scam to be worried about is the **** one. girl claims to be 18/19. you then take her to your room and then get call text from supposed father / mother "where is my daughter she is still 17 etc etc " or worse they show up with some friendly police guy. in that case you are in for a big shakedown. this case doesn't sound like that.

Chocha Monger
01-03-12, 22:35
Thanks to Mr Enternational, McDon, Pute Nut, Frenzy3, Dmyth, David_33, and Barba for all the great comments. I appreciate the different viewpoints.

I think if this proceeds, it will be similar to what David_33 and Barba described, as an ongoing sponsorship role, as opposed to a one-time trip with payment. Also, she texted me today that she just got her mens, so any potential trip has been postponed.

I haven't gotten any specific bad feelings from her or her Mom. I just naturally tend toward suspicion when dealing with new individuals. Its kept me out of trouble for the past decade with travels in Asia and South America. I guess what I'm just struggling with here is making the transition from P4P mongering to the softer, relationship-based compensated dating model that has so much potential in other parts of the Phils.

I've done my time in Angeles, had tons of fun there, but I'm ready to expand my search for the sweeter nectar of girls away from the pro scene. And it's not the relationship that's the problem. I've had plenty of AW GFs back in the states, even dated a couple of PhilAms while in University back there. If anything, I'm too nice to the girls and they fall in love rather quickly. I'm the one who breaks it off and deals with the tears that follow. Which is exactly what I'm trying to avoid here.

Another problem of mine is that while I'm solidly middle aged (with the soft middle to prove it) I appear quite younger than my years. While this is hardly a thing to complain about, the result is that when girls see me, they instantly mentally drop me in the "potential husband" bracket. It happens all the fucking time. I can see it in their eyes.

Honestly I think the more mature monger is at an advantage here, because all he needs to do is treat the girl nice and take care of her, and she will perform and then leave when he pays her (as the old Charlie Sheen joke goes.) But with me they tend to stick around, with some trying to get their hooks in as far as they can. Not the worst problem in the world to have, I know.

But this compensated dating is new territory for me, which is why I'm treading so cautiously.

Thanks again for all the perspectives. I'll definitely post updates here.Maantra,

Seems like you're in for a really wild ride! Hold on tight, keep both eyes open and whatever you do try not to get gored by the carabao.

Sammon
01-04-12, 00:09
I have sponsored total of 4 girls so far (not all at one time) , intend to sponsor one shortly.

Before you think of sponsoring,

1. Meet the girl, have sex and make sure there are sparks and some sort of love. Not a good idea taking her on a vacation. These things come later.

2. Make sure she does not baggage like kids.

3. Enquire about family and what they do. Small family is much better.

4. Find out online tuition costs at the school she is planning to enroll. Call them if necessary. You will get a clear idea.

5. Make sure she is smart enough. Once I had a girl who wanted to further her education but she was real dumb. I convinced her to look for a job instead.

6. Young girls are easier to train and will follow your advice.

After you decide,

1. Figure out tuition, living, transportation + miscellanious costs per year. Divide by 12 and send only monthly installment money.

Schools also do not ask for all money upfront. Usually initial costs are more.

2. Ask her to send scores etc to make sure she is studying.

3. If she is doing well continue to sponsor even if you loose interest in her.

4. Remember her going to school will open her up for more relationships with her own age group boys. She will never admit to dating other guys. Previously her social life is limited due to parent restrictions.

5. Make sure you meet her atleast few times a year. All young girls need to be sexually satisfied. Be prepared to stay at a hotel close to her school.

One of my girls managed to buy a small motorbike out of the allowance money. We went everywhere on that.

6. Do not be too critical if she asks for more money off and on because of sickness, family emergency etc.

Girls will be only too happy that you are paying for the schooling. Smart young girls are not in a rush to marry.

Stroker Ace88
01-04-12, 00:37
I suppose the good news is that if the school fees line is true, you get to pay another 8000 next semester, plus another 1000 for blahblah, plus another 2000 for blahblahblah. Then comes the dead caribou.Umm, caribou Are also known as reindeer And live in northern climates exclusively. If you find one wandering around in the Philippines it will be breaking news on TV Patrol. I think you meant to write carabao, which can be found throughout the Philippines.

Also if the carabao is dead no need for medical bill requests like emergency heart transplant or hip replacement surgery. Just a short viewing and nice service followed by a meal at the local carenderia. :D

Idaty
01-04-12, 06:14
Keep your 8000 don't be a sucker. No pussy is worth that kind of money unless your going to marry it.First off 8000 pesos is about $150 USD, which is peanuts. In the US I've spent more on dinner dates. Secondly, you (Maantra) need to think of this as an 'arrangement. ' Basically, for a fixed monthly allowance you negotiate the nature of your relationship with this girl. One of the key terms of any arrangement is that either party can call off the arrangement for any reason whatsoever. The money you gave her means that you can walk away with a clear conscience. If necessary, you can remind her of this fact. However, at the same time assure this girl you want the arrangement to last long enough to see her through graduation, providing she meets her end of the bargain (just fill in the blank as to what that means). As for the mom, fill in her in on the allowance details. If it were me, I'd also tell both of them that birth control and the girl's fidelity are absolutely part of your expectations.

Just a point of reference an arrangement in the US starts at $2-3K USD / month. If I lived in the PI I would set up an arrangement with two bi-sexual spinners. And life would be grand.

Fast Buck Artist
01-04-12, 09:29
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.

Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.Hey Lamok, welcome to the special needs community (aka retards) that is DIA! If you are a looking for the bottom 20% of population in intelligence, school grades, and communication skills, you have found it! It's a free dating site, what can you expect? If a girl is too stupid for school and too stupid to get a job, she's going to spend her day on the internet looking for prince charming.

Try to avoid chat in US daytime hours (nighttime in phils), prime time for scammers and time wasters. Consider signing up for a paysite like blossoms or fil cupid, the selection is of higher quality. You can usually filter out the retards within a couple of messages. If they cant string together a coherent sentence, then there is nothing between the ears, you can find that in any bar.


Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.Pros are by far the cheapest arrangement in both money spent and more importantly, time spent. I would estimate only 5% of online chatters you'll meet are pros, willing to tell upfront what the cost is, and who they are. And if you are looking for pros, why are you on DIA? Get to the bar, where you see the goods upfront. Will save a lot of time spent in incredibly dull and pointless "Hi hw are you bb, what you do now?" online chat.


Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty?Its just you. I prefer the mixed half-fils, they tend to be taller, whiter and better educated. Different strokes for different folks.

Sid70
01-04-12, 11:05
Hey guys I've been chatting this super hot little 27 year old Blonde Fillie. Penelope_scarlet. She is feisty and ready. I won't be back for a few months. She said she is Bi and can be the Devil. If anybody has their boots on the ground in Manila and wants to give it a shot it should be interesting. Keep us posted.Hahaha she contacted me aswell. Very interesting to read her heartbreaking lifestory. I guess there is no single word who's genuine. Hahaha. But anyway she is hot and lets see whats wll happen if I stay in contact with her.

GoodEnough
01-04-12, 11:21
Gangles makes an interesting point about looking for someone who wants to study a technical field. The gap between the courses most students here take and the needs of the labor market is the subject of a paper that I'm preparing now.

Nationwide, approximatetly 15% of Filipinos earn four year degrees, and most of the degrees are in "softer" subjects: HRM, Education, etc. However the higher growth sectors of the economy require engineers, IT specialists, accountants and, to a certain degree, pure science majors. One (of many) problems with the education system here is that graduating high school students receive little to no labor market information, and the choice of curricula is often driven by economic concerns. Thus, if Education is the cheapest course, and that's all the parents can afford, that's where the child will enroll. Remember too, that these kids are graduating from high school at age 16, and many go directly to college, and are thus not really mature enough to make any sort of informed career choice. As Gangles said, longer-range planning skills (how do I prepare myself for a job once I finish?) are not in the repertoire of most people, which further handicaps the decision-making process.

The education / labor market gap is wide and growing. Most graduating college students don't even speak English well enough to land jobs in call centers, and those jobs are abundant. However, the colleges cannot even provide adequate English language education, which explains why approximately 95% of all students taking the call center exams fail.

It's sad and getting sadder all the time.

GE

Fast Buck Artist
01-04-12, 13:39
Nationwide, approximatetly 15% of Filipinos earn four year degrees, and most of the degrees are in "softer" subjects: HRM, Education, etc. However the higher growth sectors of the economy require engineers, IT specialists, accountants and, to a certain degree, pure science majors.Most Filipino engineers I know work either in Dubai, Saudi or a ship at sea, and when they are back home in Phils they got no gainful employment. Accountants are prized in a country with a functioning tax system, which Philippines isn't. Again the competent usually go overseas in search of work. Info tech is my field and I employ IT engineers, see no shortage of qualified workers, and they are available at a lower price than their colleagues in india.

Actually I see an oversupply of people in every field of activity. If there was a shortage you'd see higher wages in that area, and I don't see that.

The root of all problems is that the country is obscenely overpopulated. There are just too many people. There are not enough jobs for them, industry is too small to accomodate them, there is not enough food, infrastructure or natural resources to give them all middle class lifestyle. This population overgrowth is like a tumor choking the country.

Until that issue is addressed, we'll see rising unemployment, in every field, falling income / capita, rising misery / capita, and the efforts you guys are making in improving education here remind me of a Titanic sailor using a teacup to throw water out of the sinking ship.

Gangles
01-04-12, 15:13
lamok, like you, i find dia to be very time consumiing, given that i have a very clear idea of the kind of woman that i am looking for.

so i use cherry blossoms. it costs a bit of money, which is trivial compared with your sunk costs of travel and accommodation.

cb pays foritself very quickly in terms of speed in finding what you are looking for.

you can search against a number or characteristics, and th system will return to you all members that meet your specification.

you can specify age range, height range, weight range, location, education, children, smokers, drinkers etc.

so if you want to be able to have a conversation with her, specify college degree for education.

keep in mind that girls have little constraints to travel by bus, so when you specify a city, say cebu, also look for the larger cities in the near vicinity, say 3 hours by bus. because she may say that she lives in carcar, or in cebu, for example. or in mandaue or lapu lapu, which are suburbs of cebu.

also, for manila. there is a suburb called manila, which she may specify, also ermita, makati, pasay, paranuake, cavite, bacoor etc.

you also have the option of setting up what are called matches. you specify the kind of woman that you are looking for, and the system will give you a daily list of all women meeting your specification. very quick to scan them now, and you save buickets of time weeding out the ones that do not interest you.

for example, i just did a search as follows. filipino, age 19 to 24, height 4'11" to 5'2", weight below 40 kg to 100 lb, college degree, single, no kids, non smoker, located in cebu.

i got 32 responses. that height range and weight range will throw up the spinners of which so may mongers are enamoured. degree means she will speak some english, will be able to hold a convrsatopn, and may well have a job. a quick scan shows that most of them are real honeys. much quicker than scanning hundreds of dia profiles for the same result.

had i then changed the location to mandaue, or lapu lapu, i would get more. so there is a fair range to choose from.

go for it.

g.


i've been wasting a lot of time on dia before my next trip over, as i would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising dia and making the most of your time, as i have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.

most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and i try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.

another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? not that i mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if i can afford them.

also it seems that most of the beauties are from cebu. or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? but most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. is that true?

so, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?

and what areas would be best. mnl / cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?

thanks in advance.

Gangles
01-04-12, 15:23
FBS's comment about qualified filipinos going overseas to work is pretty well a reflection of what happens here in Australia.

It is called a brain drain.

Almost all of our top artists, sports men and women, singers, dancers, biologists, engineers, physicists etc leave Australia and work overseas. Much more interesting, much better money.

So then, if there is a shortage, we import replacements from the Philippines, or Africa, or South America. Or Ireland. More recently.

What is the difference?

G


Most Filipino engineers I know work either in Dubai, Saudi or a ship at sea, and when they are back home in Phils they got no gainful employment. Accountants are prized in a country with a functioning tax system, which Philippines isn't. Again the competent usually go overseas in search of work. Info tech is my field and I employ IT engineers, see no shortage of qualified workers, and they are available at a lower price than their colleagues in india.

Actually I see an oversupply of people in every field of activity. If there was a shortage you'd see higher wages in that area, and I don't see that.

The root of all problems is that the country is obscenely overpopulated. There are just too many people. There are not enough jobs for them, industry is too small to accomodate them, there is not enough food, infrastructure or natural resources to give them all middle class lifestyle. This population overgrowth is like a tumor choking the country.

Until that issue is addressed, we'll see rising unemployment, in every field, falling income / capita, rising misery / capita, and the efforts you guys are making in improving education here remind me of a Titanic sailor using a teacup to throw water out of the sinking ship.

Fast Buck Artist
01-04-12, 19:05
FBS's comment about qualified filipinos going overseas to work is pretty well a reflection of what happens here in Australia.

It is called a brain drain.

Almost all of our top artists, sports men and women, singers, dancers, biologists, engineers, physicists etc leave Australia and work overseas. Much more interesting, much better money.

So then, if there is a shortage, we import replacements from the Philippines, or Africa, or South America. Or Ireland. More recently.

What is the difference?

GThe difference is that 4 replacements enter australia for every 1 that leaves. Australian universities are 40% foreign students, in technical courses.

In the third world 15% of the best people leave, and as a replacement they get sex tourists and missionaries.

Wolvenvacht
01-04-12, 19:22
In the third world 15% of the best people leave, and as a replacement they get sex tourists and missionaries.One category fucks your body, the other one fucks with your mind.

Chocha Monger
01-05-12, 00:05
In the third world 15% of the best people leave, and as a replacement they get sex tourists and missionaries.In one sentence you explained why the Philippines faces an insurmountable challenge in advancing beyond Third World status. It also explains the girls' seemingly irrational behavior. On one hand you have the sex tourists enticing girls into prostitution with money and on the other hand you have missionaries collecting money at their lectures while telling the girls birth control is evil. It's a scary thought when you consider that the number of sex tourists and missionaries is likely to grow robustly in the future. When you take this into consideration a lot more patience is warranted when dealing with Filipinos. It probably should not be a surprise that some of them want to fuck foreigners when the two groups mentioned arrive with the intention to fuck them in mind and body.

Member #4643
01-05-12, 03:28
This thread, Chat Rooms & Pen Pals, has increasingly been used to discuss the issues related to government corruption, the sad state of the economy in the Philippines and other interesting issues that are entirely UNRELATED to having sex with pinays. The new thread is the place to discuss politics and economics. The absence of these types of discussions here should make this thread more focused and, for those of us who really do not care about these larger (and obviously more important) issues, more fun.

You see, I am a shallow person, and I am here to read and learn about how to best maximize my sex with women in the Phils!

FreebieFan
01-05-12, 04:07
been having some fun and interesting chats with a lady from san pedro, laguna. 19 years old, not a ten but maybe a 6, but happy and willing to get her kit off at the slightest encouragement which helped a boring day at work go faster yesterday.

lost her virginity to her boss in cebu who basically raped her at 16 on the pretext on conducting her probation appraisal.

the slimeball basically said he would not make her a permanent hire unless she gave it up to him.

anyways she seems to have recovered well. she's sees a 70 year old guy who flie in from europe every few months who gives her money. she says he can't get it up, but she sucks him for a long long time till he comes.

theres some interesting people out there in chatland. and this post had nothing to do with politics or economies or the migration habits of australians. lol

X Man
01-05-12, 04:18
A good report by Gangles earlier. Unfortunately it is buried among a lot of "expert" opinions regarding issues mostly unrelated to online Pinay pursuits.

Some of the kinkier members have shown interest in pregnant women. On Dia, this one claims to be 36 weeks:

Jona_lyn1234.

X

Cunning Stunt
01-05-12, 04:18
This thread, Chat Rooms & Pen Pals, has increasingly been used to discuss the issues related to government corruption, the sad state of the economy in the Philippines and other interesting issues that are entirely UNRELATED to having sex with pinays. The new thread is the place to discuss politics and economics. The absence of these types of discussions here should make this thread more focused and, for those of us who really do not care about these larger (and obviously more important) issues, more fun.

You see, I am a shallow person, and I am here to read and learn about how to best maximize my sex with women in the Phils!I fear that you will have wasted your time and effort, mate. The Philippine forum is full of belly button gazers, some like GE and one or two others who have vast experience of the country and whose non-mongering views and opinions will always make interesting reading. Apart from these, the majority of thread hijackers are made up of semi-trolls, like CM who offers no mongering insights and a totally negative view of the place but whose hilariously misogynist opinions are always worth a laugh. The rest are opinion mooners, meaning they have an opinion like they have an arse and like to display it. Nothing wrong with that but it does tend to detract and distract from the true purpose of the forum.

Besides, there already is a Philippines Politics & History thread.

Frenzy3
01-05-12, 04:41
This thread, Chat Rooms & Pen Pals, has increasingly been used to discuss the issues related to government corruption, the sad state of the economy in the Philippines and other interesting issues that are entirely UNRELATED to having sex with pinays. The new thread is the place to discuss politics and economics. The absence of these types of discussions here should make this thread more focused and, for those of us who really do not care about these larger (and obviously more important) issues, more fun.

You see, I am a shallow person, and I am here to read and learn about how to best maximize my sex with women in the Phils!I already replied to you thread. Now I read this. Are you really that thick. To get pussy in PI just come here you get more pussy than you could ever need. PI needed Viagra so those who have money can fly here will have a good time.

I said before these forums are different as it so easy to get pussy the guys who visit here and live here can talk about anything as we do not need help to get pussy but help to understand the people more. None of us grew up in PI so the more we relate our experiances the more we learn.

So just turn up and see why we discuss what we do. As getting pussy is not a problem we face in PI

Frenzy3
01-05-12, 04:55
Gangles makes an interesting point about looking for someone who wants to study a technical field. The gap between the courses most students here take and the needs of the labor market is the subject of a paper that I'm preparing now.

Nationwide, approximatetly 15% of Filipinos earn four year degrees, and most of the degrees are in "softer" subjects: HRM, Education, etc. However the higher growth sectors of the economy require engineers, IT specialists, accountants and, to a certain degree, pure science majors. One (of many) problems with the education system here is that graduating high school students receive little to no labor market information, and the choice of curricula is often driven by economic concerns. Thus, if Education is the cheapest course, and that's all the parents can afford, that's where the child will enroll. Remember too, that these kids are graduating from high school at age 16, and many go directly to college, and are thus not really mature enough to make any sort of informed career choice. As Gangles said, longer-range planning skills (how do I prepare myself for a job once I finish?) are not in the repertoire of most people, which further handicaps the decision-making process.

The education / labor market gap is wide and growing. Most graduating college students don't even speak English well enough to land jobs in call centers, and those jobs are abundant. However, the colleges cannot even provide adequate English language education, which explains why approximately 95% of all students taking the call center exams fail.

It's sad and getting sadder all the time.

GECompanies are addressing the education problem. I seen done if the big bpo setup schools and offer training wages. I also do this in my company.

I like the way the country works even if it may look broke to others the level of the peso gives companies a chance to pay for training. The levels of payments means only companies with good budgets of good revenue will come here so the labour will not bubble. And I like the people here.

Guys who setup buisness and complain I often hear latter that they not pay their bills which shows they did not budget then they say bad stuff about the place rather than admidt fault.

Fatboy 1980
01-05-12, 07:42
Talking to a chick on DIA. Within the space of a few messages, she's already hinted that she will fuck me. Got talking on cam and she told me she is up for sex, showed me a sexy topless pic, told me about her vibrator and her sexual fantasies etc. I decided to push it a little and test her by getting more explicit and she didn't baulk once. She told me she will come to my hotel and get jiggy etc. This is all within a few hours of initial contact. It sounds great, but I was suspicious for some reason. I asked her straight if she wanted something in return and she said 'just be nice to me'.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, surely, so I wonder if this is some kind of game or scam? I'm sure she used the same photo (albeit cropped) on another DIA profile, so maybe some guys here will recognize her.

Fast Buck Artist
01-05-12, 08:13
Talking to a chick on DIA. Within the space of a few messages, she's already hinted that she will fuck me. Got talking on cam and she told me she is up for sex, showed me a sexy topless pic, told me about her vibrator and her sexual fantasies etc. I decided to push it a little and test her by getting more explicit and she didn't baulk once. She told me she will come to my hotel and get jiggy etc. This is all within a few hours of initial contact. It sounds great, but I was suspicious for some reason. I asked her straight if she wanted something in return and she said 'just be nice to me'.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, surely, so I wonder if this is some kind of game or scam? I'm sure she used the same photo (albeit cropped) on another DIA profile, so maybe some guys here will recognize her.

Such in your face sex talk is often an indicator of a ladyboy. Looking at the pic it seems like a real woman though. Call her on the phone and do a voice check. If its a female voice then you are good to go. Females who are just looking for sex are unusual, but they do exist. Its not too good to be true, unusual yes, but you meet them occasionally.

WestCoast1
01-05-12, 08:18
I asked her straight if she wanted something in return and she said 'just be nice to me'.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, surely, so I wonder if this is some kind of game or scam?Sounds not so unusual for pinay. Doesn't sound like a scam. 'Just be nice to me' sounds like you should slip 1500 peso into her purse in the morning. Take her out for drinks prior. At these prices, you could have two DIA girls. Well, that's what I hear.

Cunning Stunt
01-05-12, 08:29
Talking to a chick on DIA. Within the space of a few messages, she's already hinted that she will fuck me. Got talking on cam and she told me she is up for sex, showed me a sexy topless pic, told me about her vibrator and her sexual fantasies etc. I decided to push it a little and test her by getting more explicit and she didn't baulk once. She told me she will come to my hotel and get jiggy etc. This is all within a few hours of initial contact. It sounds great, but I was suspicious for some reason. I asked her straight if she wanted something in return and she said 'just be nice to me'.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, surely, so I wonder if this is some kind of game or scam? I'm sure she used the same photo (albeit cropped) on another DIA profile, so maybe some guys here will recognize her.Ask for her facebook details. Nearly all young Filipina's have a FB page and I am immediately suspicious if they say they do not. You can check photo's and details such as age and place of origin.

Give me her DIA handle and I'll check her out for you, if you want;).

Fatboy 1980
01-05-12, 08:35
Give me her DIA handle and I'll check her out for you, if you want;).LOL, I bet you will. I chatted to her via Skype and her voice and appearance didn't indicate ladyboy. That's why I think 'too good to be true'. Fuck it, I'll meet her for a few beers and scope her properly then.

GregLondon
01-05-12, 12:45
LOL, I bet you will. I chatted to her via Skype and her voice and appearance didn't indicate ladyboy. That's why I think 'too good to be true'. Fuck it, I'll meet her for a few beers and scope her properly then.To me her face looks a bit masculine and her boobs a little like hormone enhanced. The overall chat also seemed more characteristic of a LB. She is obviously looking for payment but that would be true of almost all the DIA girls of that age willing to have fun with no strings or promises. If you are concerned about the LB issue just ask her if she is a 100% real girl, most LBs would then own up at that stage and most girls where there is some ambiguity are very used to being asked that question.

Other than that I would clarify her financial expectations before hand. Professional girls like this will often be looking for a big payoff if they suspect the guy is a newbie. She is not a nymphomaniac with a "thing" for fatboys.

Member #4351
01-05-12, 15:21
Does she know you won't be arriving in the Philippines for many months if at all? Try telling her that and check her reaction.

Jb Life
01-05-12, 15:33
Greetings,

This is my first post in the Philippines board. I live in South Korea and the ladies here do the trick for me but vacation time is almost here and I'd rather monger someplace a bit north of 0degrees C. After lurking and reading all of the seniors members posts all I can say is thank you. I am trying to get into DiA, I've had a few chats and cam viewings with some girls. One seemed promising, she worked at a bar was willing to show me around in the day / come over after work at night, a looker in my opinion. Then today I messaged her and all hell broke loose. Some one (not her I presume) is on her yahoo and is telling me this sob story about how she is actually his girlfriend, her baby daddy took her daughter away, she is currently 6 months pregnant. I was floored but at the same time skeptical. I've seen her on cam and even though she is sitting down she sitting on the floor and I can see her whole body. Maybe Filipinas don't show until very late or she is pregnant with the worlds smallest baby. I don't know! Has anyone had anything like this happen?

Second I went back to the DiA well. Not to be put off by the minor set back I turned my attention to the Angeles area and ladies there. Found a girl added her on YM we chat a bit and go on cam. She's chatting with other people I can see, talking on the phone say it's her sister, seems overall uninterested in what we are doing. This is quite the opposite of how most of my conversations have gone. I mention I may be coming through the area and ask her if she can guide me and she says sure."Great, foot in the door" I think. Then when I start asking about things to do she starts with the "up to you"s if it was up to my we be locked in a room for a couple of days but I obviously can't just say that! (Right?) But at every turn she was like 'up to you' I guess what I am asking here as someone who has RTFF this and others, but no boots on the ground exp."up to you" is a phrase all Filipinas use working and not? Or might she have some experience in this field and be testing me.

Sorry for being questions I hope to add something more to this board than I can in the SK bored, that scene is a bit played out.

Cheers!

Red Kilt
01-05-12, 16:06
Does she know you won't be arriving in the Philippines for many months if at all? Try telling her that and check her reaction.Good, direct and incisive comment David.

I don't know about Fatboy and his intentions but I have lost count of the number of women who have told me how guys offer and promise to provide all manner of things to them on chat including mind-blowing sex but it never happens.

These guys are just getting their vicarious jollies from afar with no intention of coming here. The wife and kids won't allow it.

Many (most) women on DIA are now very distrustful of guys and what they say during chat. The experienced ones are now a bit battle-scarred from broken promises.

Rather paradoxically, despite me saying I do not want a wife and also because I am very frank and direct in my DIA profile about who I am and what I want, I get many hits simply because women interpret my profile as being honest.

Sammon
01-05-12, 17:54
Such in your face sex talk is often an indicator of a ladyboy. Looking at the pic it seems like a real woman though. Call her on the phone and do a voice check. If its a female voice then you are good to go. Females who are just looking for sex are unusual, but they do exist. Its not too good to be true, unusual yes, but you meet them occasionally.Not really! All girls know by now that sex is in the menu dealing with foreign guys. Most of these women have met and fucked few unless you find a real newbie. None will admit. They always say you are the first foreigner.

And they fucked only one Phi guy and it has been a long time since they had sex. None of this is true. On meeting sometimes they open up and admit to the truth. The very fact they are talking to a foreigner is due to the fact that one their friends / relative has been with a foreigner and they know the deal. It is important you talk about sex before meeting. If you think you are going to woo her to bed by charms you are mistaken. You will end up buying meal for one or many and leave with your hand on your dick. Be firm and let them know you want sex. Only girls who refuse sex are young virgins or they do not like your looks. Many girls do not like the guy who smokes.

Agewise it does not seem to matter to them if you are neat and clean.

Ladyboys in DIA generally admit to it. One guy who did not admit was brazen enough to show his chest on cam (as if I wanteed to a male chest) , I blocked him immediately saying all foreigners like ladyboys. Well, not this one.

Member #4351
01-05-12, 18:27
Well Sammon, I usually agree with you, but I'm not sure about the always being upfront and mentioning sex. You know about the whole "face saving" thing in the Philippines. I think that sometimes being too obvious can have negative results. I guess it depends on the girl.

Fatboy 1980
01-06-12, 00:14
Does she know you won't be arriving in the Philippines for many months if at all? Try telling her that and check her reaction.I will be in the phils in about 3 weeks time and will only be in manila for a couple of days. I told her all this. I didn't lie to her at all. I said I just want to hang out and have fun but I didn't bring up the topic of sex. She was the one who started making such inferences. I'm not getting my hopes up yet, because she probably has a number of fellas talking to her now.

Cunning Stunt
01-06-12, 03:51
I agree with Sammon. There are two main categories of girl on DIA. Those looking for relationships and those looking for fun (money). The dividing line between the two is quite blurred and the relationship seekers can often become money seekers if circumstances dictate. I always skirt around the sex / money question waiting for the girl to mention it as they usually do. However I make clear by my profile spiel and the tone of the online / SMS chat, that I'm not interested in a serious thing and am only looking for a little fun and most girls know this when they contact me. I have not yet met a girl from DIA who has arrived expecting a friendly platonic tete a tete. They come expecting sex. There can be no misunderstanding and so far with the many DIA girls that I have met, there has not been any.

Don't believe the nonsense girls put in their profile blurb. Crap about not wanting to play and only looking for serious relationships. I was supposed to be meeting a girl yesterday (I couldn't make it) who had all this in her pen picture and more and from her picture (and her FB photos) looked as if butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. During a text chat she asked me what kind of girls I was looking for in DIA. I replied 'just casual friends but I mostly find girls who want tip in return for sex. LOL'. She immediately replied 'ok I try? LOL'. I have had several similar conversations with other supposedly 'good' girls.

DIA is a game for adults and the girls know the rules far better than we do. Do not be afraid of upsetting their fine girly sensibilities by mentioning jiggy-jiggy. They are probably just waiting for you to stop talking meaningless shit and get to the point!

Member #4491
01-06-12, 04:30
Thank you X. Much appreciated!

Barba.

Mr Enternational
01-06-12, 07:22
MrE wrote: Hello, beautiful. What do you study? I will be in Cebu soon. Maybe I can meet you and you can show me your city.

Mg wrote: 4 hrs. 10 mins ago.

Ok sir I will be your servant please call if you arrived in cebu my no is 09. Thank you sir I really need money I don't have job and I didn't finished stuies so if you arrived I will be your servant or tourist guide thank you hope see you soon tc!

Mc Don
01-06-12, 10:28
MrE wrote: Hello, beautiful. What do you study? I will be in Cebu soon. Maybe I can meet you and you can show me your city.

Mg wrote: 4 hrs. 10 mins ago.

Ok sir I will be your servant please call if you arrived in cebu my no is 09. Thank you sir I really need money I don't have job and I didn't finished stuies so if you arrived I will be your servant or tourist guide thank you hope see you soon tc!I hope you have a nice maid uniform to pack LOL. She sounds keen to impress.

GregLondon
01-06-12, 10:36
Greetings,

This is my first post in the Philippines board. I live in South Korea and the ladies here do the trick for me but vacation time is almost here and I'd rather monger someplace a bit north of 0degrees C. After lurking and reading all of the seniors members posts all I can say is thank you. I am trying to get into DiA, I've had a few chats and cam viewings with some girls. One seemed promising, she worked at a bar was willing to show me around in the day / come over after work at night, a looker in my opinion. Then today I messaged her and all hell broke loose. Some one (not her I presume) is on her yahoo and is telling me this sob story about how she is actually his girlfriend, her baby daddy took her daughter away, she is currently 6 months pregnant. I was floored but at the same time skeptical. I've seen her on cam and even though she is sitting down she sitting on the floor and I can see her whole body. Maybe Filipinas don't show until very late or she is pregnant with the worlds smallest baby. I don't know! Has anyone had anything like this happen?

Second I went back to the DiA well. Not to be put off by the minor set back I turned my attention to the Angeles area and ladies there. Found a girl added her on YM we chat a bit and go on cam. She's chatting with other people I can see, talking on the phone say it's her sister, seems overall uninterested in what we are doing. This is quite the opposite of how most of my conversations have gone. I mention I may be coming through the area and ask her if she can guide me and she says sure."Great, foot in the door" I think. Then when I start asking about things to do she starts with the "up to you"s if it was up to my we be locked in a room for a couple of days but I obviously can't just say that! (Right?) But at every turn she was like 'up to you' I guess what I am asking here as someone who has RTFF this and others, but no boots on the ground exp."up to you" is a phrase all Filipinas use working and not? Or might she have some experience in this field and be testing me.

Sorry for being questions I hope to add something more to this board than I can in the SK bored, that scene is a bit played out.

Cheers!Your first situation sounds like someone opened her YM either because she forgot to log out or one of her "friends" and thought they would just "have a laugh". Angeles is one of the more difficult areas to find DIA fun in the Phils. DIA is always a long shot for the girls as maybe only 2-3% of the people they chat too will show up and meet. If a pretty girl is in a place like AC looking to find a foreigner it's generally far easier to simply walk around town in a short skirt and she will get approached within 5 minutes so why bother with the net cafe route? That said you can fimd some OK DIA girls in AC but its not as easy as Manila and Cebu. As has been said many times before on this board the best approach with DIA is just to be upfront and clear about what you are hoping to achieve. Otherwise you risk wasting huge amounts of time taking girls and their freinds to jolly bees etc with no pay off.

D Cups
01-06-12, 14:39
Hi JB,"up to you" is the national motto in the PI. Good luck, man. I used to be stationed at Osan but got transferred to Clark in the 80s. Been in love with the PI ever since.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-06-12, 17:19
I agree with Sammon. There are two main categories of girl on DIA. Those looking for relationships and those looking for fun (money). The dividing line between the two is quite blurred and the relationship seekers can often become money seekers if circumstances dictate. I always skirt around the sex / money question waiting for the girl to mention it as they usually do. However I make clear by my profile spiel and the tone of the online / SMS chat, that I'm not interested in a serious thing and am only looking for a little fun and most girls know this when they contact me. I have not yet met a girl from DIA who has arrived expecting a friendly platonic tete a tete. They come expecting sex. There can be no misunderstanding and so far with the many DIA girls that I have met, there has not been any.

Don't believe the nonsense girls put in their profile blurb. Crap about not wanting to play and only looking for serious relationships. I was supposed to be meeting a girl yesterday (I couldn't make it) who had all this in her pen picture and more and from her picture (and her FB photos) looked as if butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. During a text chat she asked me what kind of girls I was looking for in DIA. I replied 'just casual friends but I mostly find girls who want tip in return for sex. LOL'. She immediately replied 'ok I try? LOL'. I have had several similar conversations with other supposedly 'good' girls.

DIA is a game for adults and the girls know the rules far better than we do. Do not be afraid of upsetting their fine girly sensibilities by mentioning jiggy-jiggy. They are probably just waiting for you to stop talking meaningless shit and get to the point!Totally agree with everything Cunning Stunt says. I'll also just add that there's no harm in cutting to the chase and asking for exactly what you're looking for. If your target denies being interested / available for a sexy hook-up or seems like too much of a drama mama, simply move on to the next. Always better to be straightforward and honest in my opinion. Just saves time and reduces the risk of any misunderstanding later on.

Jon von Neumann
01-06-12, 20:33
Earlier this week, I started chatting with this Pinay I met on DIA. I had attempted to connect with her before my last trip to PI in early fall and couldn't quite get her online to close the deal before my trip. This week, I chatted her up when I saw her online. This time she was available immediately for a chat on cam. Whaoh! What a looker! I love her face, her complexion and the way she dressed. She was tastefully dressed and sexy as hell (she gave me an instant woody-which cannot be bad for the girl I am with). Her voice was great. Her English was very much above all other Pinays I've chatted with online.

However, her story don't quite match observable facts. She says that she is about to turn 25 (I think, in fact she is going to be 25 today now I think of it). She says that she is a single mother of a one and half year old boy. Her boy lives with her parents in the province. The father of her baby died of a heart attack (hmmm, I am thinking that heart attacks must be very common in PI as this is about the fourth or fifth DIA girl I chatted with this year who told me their boyfriends died of it). When I pressed her for when her boyfriend died, she said six months ago. Ok. Sorry to hear about your loss lady. But, she didn't seem all that emotional about the death. Hmmm, red flag number one. She did the jiggy with this boy less than 2. 5 years ago. Could her heart have grown that cold in that short amount of time?

She doesn't have a job. She is looking for a job. Also, she is looking for LTR with a foreigner (specifically) that may turn into a potential marriage. Ok. She is living in an apartment with one of her friends and her American husband (some dude from Pennsylvania). She was alone in the room. I asked her if she plays with both of her friend and her American husband. She didn't seem to understand the question. Ok, no big deal. Either she didn't really understand or she pretended not to. She is using her friend's computer to chat (more on this later).

Yesterday, she ask me if I have met other girls on DIA. Yes. Met them in person? Yes. Paid them?"What? No, I didn't pay them." She asked me why. Strange question. For a brief moment, I contemplated pursuing her line of questioning to see if she will come out and ask me for money. Now, I have a suspicion that she is skilled scammer. Hmmm. But, instead I said "because they liked me and it wasn't that kind of relationship." Is it my inner freud wanting her to turn out to be real here? I want her to be real 'cause I do want to bone her for real (scammer or not). Our chat sessions are generally very upbeat and happy. I can see myself with her for real. She looks great, dresses, speaks and carries herself well. She likes to sing. She sang to me during one of our chats.

Anyway, I was still wondering about her question about paying my previous PI girls. Therefore, I asked her if she ever worked in a bar. She said "what? No. I am not that kind of girl." Ok. I dropped it and we moved on to other things.

In all our chats she does not seem to have any issues getting on the computer whenever I ask her to. Red flag number two. Her saying that she is using her friends computer is likely not true. [I think I will ask her more questions about her friends next time we chat. ]

Judging by her clothes, hair and make-up, I would suspect that she is getting money on a regular basis-probably from other online friends. Red flag number three. Perhaps, her friend (and friend's husband) have provided her with money to maintain herself well. Perhaps she is a real pro. She might soon tell me some sob story for money. I plan to explore these areas in coming weeks. Too bad I won't be able to travel to PI for another month or two to bang her, pay her and find out in person. I hope I can get to spend time with this beauty before she disappears into the ether.

What Mr. E said about not chatting with these girls until right before a trip is so true. This girl will probably loose interest in me if I don't give her a firm date for my trip. She needs money and it comes through in very subtle ways.

BL2K

Mr Enternational
01-06-12, 21:07
Yesterday, she ask me if I have met other girls on DIA. Yes. Met them in person? Yes. Paid them?"What? No, I didn't pay them."Instead of answering the last question I would have asked a question of my own."Why? Do you want me to (Do I need to) pay you?"

JPF
01-06-12, 23:05
The following is from the DIA profile of someone who sent me a message (she is 40 and I have no particular interest in her so can't be bothered to write and ask) :

"my hobbies are swimming, dancing, badminton, ice skate and firing. As of now I'm busy with my aerobics class"

I can't figure out what "firing" is supposed to be. I assume it is a typo, mispronunciation, or misspelling but maybe she likes making fires or firing guns?

Punter 127
01-07-12, 01:17
The following is from the DIA profile of someone who sent me a message (she is 40 and I have no particular interest in her so can't be bothered to write and ask) :

"my hobbies are swimming, dancing, badminton, ice skate and firing. As of now I'm busy with my aerobics class"

I can't figure out what "firing" is supposed to be. I assume it is a typo, mispronunciation, or misspelling but maybe she likes making fires or firing guns?What's her DIA name I'll ask her for you? Does her profile really say "ice skate"? I'll ask about that also.

Jon von Neumann
01-07-12, 01:35
Good point. I should've. I am sure time will tell. If she is legit, there won't be a need. And if it comes up again, I'll be better prepared.

Thanks,

BL.


Instead of answering the last question I would have asked a question of my own."Why? Do you want me to (Do I need to) pay you?"

Stroker Ace88
01-07-12, 02:48
The following is from the DIA profile of someone who sent me a message (she is 40 and I have no particular interest in her so can't be bothered to write and ask) :

"my hobbies are swimming, dancing, badminton, ice skate and firing. As of now I'm busy with my aerobics class"

I can't figure out what "firing" is supposed to be. I assume it is a typo, mispronunciation, or misspelling but maybe she likes making fires or firing guns?
What's her DIA name I'll ask her for you? Does her profile really say "ice skate"? I'll ask about that also.Her hobbies seem fairly diverse for a woman in the Philippines, but not unusual for someone with better than a middle-class upbringing. MOA in Manila does have a large ice rink and many kids can be seen daily trying it out. Some are pretty good and if you are lucky enough to be in the mall when the more experienced figure skaters have practice, they can put on a good show.

No idea what 'firing' could be. It's worth noting she did spell the other words correctly and that leads me to think she possibly just cut and pasted another persons profile description. Common practice for girls to copy a friend or relatives profile info or someone she thought had a better description without even thinking about it.

Why not send her a message and ask her direct. With a few messages exchanged back and forth you can tell if she is for real or all bola2.

Punter 127
01-07-12, 03:23
Her hobbies seem fairly diverse for a woman in the Philippines, but not unusual for someone with better than a middle-class upbringing. MOA in Manila does have a large ice rink and many kids can be seen daily trying it out. Some are pretty good and if you are lucky enough to be in the mall when the more experienced figure skaters have practice, they can put on a good show.

No idea what 'firing' could be. It's worth noting she did spell the other words correctly and that leads me to think she possibly just cut and pasted another persons profile description. Common practice for girls to copy a friend or relatives profile info or someone she thought had a better description without even thinking about it.

Why not send her a message and ask her direct. With a few messages exchanged back and forth you can tell if she is for real or all bola2.Live and learn as they say, I didn't know they had an ice rink in Manila. But that could be because I don't like Manila and avoid it as much as possible. JPF implies she's to old, which 40 is old for Pinay, but I would be willing to 'chat her' just so I could find out about 'firing', and hey old gals like a little bola bola sometimes too.

Frenzy3
01-07-12, 05:01
Bl2k sounds like a scammer I would say has a few guys sending her money. Some girls like her give free sex so enjoy

Fast Buck Artist
01-07-12, 06:04
The father of her baby died of a heart attack (hmmm, I am thinking that heart attacks must be very common in PI as this is about the fourth or fifth DIA girl I chatted with this year who told me their boyfriends died of it). When I pressed her for when her boyfriend died, she said six months ago. Ok. Sorry to hear about your loss lady. But, she didn't seem all that emotional about the death. Hmmm, red flag number one. She did the jiggy with this boy less than 2. 5 years ago. Could her heart have grown that cold in that short amount of time?I hear this "dead boyfriend" story all the time. The boyfriends are suspiciously young and healthy and die from really strange causes. One claimed that her 19 year old pinoy boyfriend was found dead in his bed one morning and nobody could figure out why he expired.

This is a psychological defense for the girls. The fact that their bf got them pregnant and promptly cut all contact and disappeared (typical pinoy bf behaviour) is just too painful to accept, so they convince themselves that he's dead and thats why he's missing in action. It's a more acceptable story to tell than "he got me pregnant then dumped me and moved on to the next girl"

Dont be surprised to find that some of your past girls are currently reporting YOU as deceased from heart attack, if you have cut contact with her.

Frenzy3
01-07-12, 07:11
I hear this "dead boyfriend" story all the time. The boyfriends are suspiciously young and healthy and die from really strange causes. One claimed that her 19 year old pinoy boyfriend was found dead in his bed one morning and nobody could figure out why he expired.

This is a psychological defense for the girls. The fact that their bf got them pregnant and promptly cut all contact and disappeared (typical pinoy bf behaviour) is just too painful to accept, so they convince themselves that he's dead and thats why he's missing in action. It's a more acceptable story to tell than "he got me pregnant then dumped me and moved on to the next girl"

Don't be surprised to find that some of your past girls are currently reporting YOU as deceased from heart attack, if you have cut contact with her.Pinay are black widows, she is telling you what has happened and what she will do to you. LOL.

Do not be fooled why are there so many women here looking for mates, they knock of so many they not care how much you have as long as it will pay for the next meal

GregLondon
01-07-12, 10:37
Her hobbies seem fairly diverse for a woman in the Philippines, but not unusual for someone with better than a middle-class upbringing. MOA in Manila does have a large ice rink and many kids can be seen daily trying it out. Some are pretty good and if you are lucky enough to be in the mall when the more experienced figure skaters have practice, they can put on a good show.

No idea what 'firing' could be. It's worth noting she did spell the other words correctly and that leads me to think she possibly just cut and pasted another persons profile description. Common practice for girls to copy a friend or relatives profile info or someone she thought had a better description without even thinking about it.

Why not send her a message and ask her direct. With a few messages exchanged back and forth you can tell if she is for real or all bola2.I would presume that is going off to a shooting range and letting off steam by firing a gun a la American Beauty.

D Cups
01-07-12, 14:08
Maybe she meant to say fucking.

40 is too old for me unless she is in great shape and has huge boobs! To each his own.


The following is from the DIA profile of someone who sent me a message (she is 40 and I have no particular interest in her so can't be bothered to write and ask) :

"my hobbies are swimming, dancing, badminton, ice skate and firing. As of now I'm busy with my aerobics class"

I can't figure out what "firing" is supposed to be. I assume it is a typo, mispronunciation, or misspelling but maybe she likes making fires or firing guns?

Mc Don
01-07-12, 16:43
I once had that before. It refered to gun firing. A foreigner took her to the shooting range in AC and that was enough for her to put it on her profile as a hobby LOL

Sammon
01-07-12, 17:26
It does not matter what they write in their profile. It is not like you are going to take her to play volleyball or skating or firing (whatever it may mean-not at all important)

Most of us are interested in sports of the bedroom variety. If she is good we tend to keep her. If she is not good we dump her. We may also keep many Dia contacts in line.

So that we spend few days with each. At the most we like to take them on holidays to the beach.

One girl I met told me she knows swimming. In reality she does even know how to waddle. I had to teach her. Even if water is all around Phi, they never venture into the water.

JPF
01-08-12, 00:20
What's her DIA name I'll ask her for you? Does her profile really say "ice skate"? I'll ask about that also.Thanks for the replies. Her DIA name is "mytrick dc" and her pic looks like it was taken in a mall so maybe that is where she ice skates.

It's not just her age that disqualified her for me. From her pic you can see she doesn't have the huge boobs that D Cups and I would appreciate.

To Sammon: while what they write in the profile doesn't mean anything to me either as far as bedroom activities go, I like to see how they express themselves and their ability to communicate.

GregLondon
01-08-12, 02:15
Is it my imagination or has the quality of girls on DIA been diminishing over the last year or two?

In particular my impression is that there has been a decrease in the proportion of college graduate girls and an increase in the proportion of single mums.

Do others agree or is it just my imagination?

Punter 127
01-08-12, 08:03
Thanks for the replies. Her DIA name is "mytrick dc" and her pic looks like it was taken in a mall so maybe that is where she ice skates.

It's not just her age that disqualified her for me. From her pic you can see she doesn't have the huge boobs that D Cups and I would appreciate.

To Sammon: while what they write in the profile doesn't mean anything to me either as far as bedroom activities go, I like to see how they express themselves and their ability to communicate.No problem, I just sent her a message, she's not my type but I will try to chat her when I see her online.

Amanut
01-09-12, 00:30
No problem, I just sent her a message, she's not my type but I will try to chat her when I see her online.Here is her response. So I hope you like to come back here in my country, firing is a competition or practise about the weapon or guns hhehhhehe have a nice Monday morning to you.

And now we know.

Punter 127
01-09-12, 05:07
firing is gun hhehheh :)This old gal has more flags flying than a 4th of July parade and all of them are Red.

She is 40 year old.

She has 3 kids.

Lives in Manila.

The list goes on but the real ass kicker is she is married to but separated from a Filipino, which makes her down right dangerous in the Philippines. Oh and hubby is probably the one that took her 'firing'. The only good thing she told me was that she does not own a gun, but I'd bet her old man does.

My advise on this one is Avoid Avoid Avoid, But as they like to say here 'up to you'. LOL

FreebieFan
01-09-12, 06:34
Is it my imagination or has the quality of girls on DIA been diminishing over the last year or two?

In particular my impression is that there has been a decrease in the proportion of college graduate girls and an increase in the proportion of single mums.

Do others agree or is it just my imagination?I was going to say, that this generally wasnt my experince, then today I get a message (which was promptly binned) from the lady as detailed below. 4 kids at 23 and proudly single. What a life she's going to have.

http://www.dateinasia.com/ivygurl06.html

FreebieFan
01-09-12, 07:39
Move over Gordon. The Philippines has just invented a new dish.

Chatting with a lady from Pangasinan today, where the local ladies are prone (or is it frone?) to mixing up their P's and F's.

Asked her what she was having for lunch. The answer was " Pride Chicken Sir ". '

A chicken with Pride? A new recipe. No. Another case of P & F transposed.

Red Kilt
01-09-12, 08:44
This old gal has more flags flying than a 4th of July parade and all of them are Red.

. .

My advise on this one is Avoid Avoid Avoid, But as they like to say here 'up to you'. LOLShe talks a lot too Punter, and is very demanding. I met her a few weeks back and it was for coffee only thank goodness.

Too much adrenalin flowing for me.

I agree: Avoid.

Member #4351
01-09-12, 15:37
Is it my imagination or has the quality of girls on DIA been diminishing over the last year or two?I think that DIA is now common knowledge for many old geezers and young losers from the States, Europe and Australia who are quickly marrying the good ones. I know of a couple of real cuties from Cebu who were sent plane tickets to Australia for marriage. This without ever having met the guy in person.

Mr Enternational
01-09-12, 16:18
Is it my imagination or has the quality of girls on DIA been diminishing over the last year or two?

In particular my impression is that there has been a decrease in the proportion of college graduate girls and an increase in the proportion of single mums.

Do others agree or is it just my imagination?What difference does it make? It seems that most guys are just out looking for something to fuck on DIA and not a lifetime partner. Whether you put your dick in a college graduate or a single mom of 4 it is going to feel the same.

Sammon
01-09-12, 17:22
What difference does it make? It seems that most guys are just out looking for something to fuck on DIA and not a lifetime partner. Whether you put your dick in a college graduate or a single mom of 4 it is going to feel the same.Well, there is a big difference fucking a young college student vs single mom with 4 kids. It will definitely not feel the same.

While the student will hit you for tuition fees, single mother will hit you upto feed the whole family apart from the stretched pussy already by having babies.

It maybe true that there are lots of single mothers in DIA. All good looking college girls are snapped up right away by sponsors. One of my GF good looking friends joined DIA on my gf insistence. She got a sponsor right away.

Paying her 10, 000 pesos per month. The guy has not even been to Phi. He told her to take her name off DIA. I told my gf to tell her she can rejoin using another I. D. And continue trolling because she will never know when the.

Donation will dry up. She is a good looking girl by the way.

Single mothers join to see if they can find support. Many will not even list they have kids in their profile. Only while chatting they will admit. Everybody should be aware that even though there are tons of girls in DIA, it is not.

Easy to find a jem you call call your own atleast for a short time. I met a 18 year old girl who came across as a genuine country girl from samar. She said she is looking for a job in Manila. On chatting I found out she is living with 5 girls in a nice looking apartment and no job yet. On questioning she did admit that all the girls worked as AC bargirls and now maybe they are doing cam shows. No demand for money from her yet. So in DIA you never know what you get.

Radical Guy
01-09-12, 19:35
What difference does it make? It seems that most guys are just out looking for something to fuck on DIA and not a lifetime partner. Whether you put your dick in a college graduate or a single mom of 4 it is going to feel the same.Back in my mongering days, before I married my current Filipina wife, I was never interested in girls who had kids because their pussy definitely felt worn out, and I like 'them nice and tight. Maybe if I was endowed like John Holmes it wouldn't make a difference, but as it is, I prefer my lady childless.

My wife is very unusual for a Filipina in that she has no desire to have kids of her own. She married me knowing that I had a vasectomy, and said that she does not want her body ruined by pregnancy, like she has seen happen to her older sisters and some friends. We may, at some point, decide to adopt, but right now my wife is into advancing her career.

RG

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01-10-12, 00:52
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Red Kilt
01-10-12, 03:53
I think that DIA is now common knowledge for many old geezers and young losers from the States, Europe and Australia who are quickly marrying the good ones. I know of a couple of real cuties from Cebu who were sent plane tickets to Australia for marriage. This without ever having met the guy in person.I find this extraordinary on a number of counts David.

One is that guys will actually seek to do this sight unseen, when my experience shows that what you see and talk with on DIA rarely translates into the same experience in person, and usually worse.

Secondly, that girls will actually be prepared to "marry" a guy that they have never met.

For me, both parties are definitely "desperadoes".

Of course, the Australian Embassy in Manila is currently quite strict about vetting women seeking visas to Australia. Just last week a single, employed, childless businesswoman with her own house was denied a tourist visa to Australia, and she asked me for assistance since she knows I spend a lot of time in the Embassy with various work assignments. I was unable to find out why she was denied her visa.

I am also interested to know how the girls are sent a plane ticket from Australia to fly from the Philippines. I cannot send my kids a ticket to fly from Australia to Manila. I have to send the money and they book the ticket themselves. Maybe that's what you were actually saying (in shorthand).

Punter 127
01-10-12, 04:33
I find this extraordinary on a number of counts David.

One is that guys will actually seek to do this sight unseen, when my experience shows that what you see and talk with on DIA rarely translates into the same experience in person, and usually worse.

Secondly, that girls will actually be prepared to "marry" a guy that they have never met.

For me, both parties are definitely "desperadoes".

Of course, the Australian Embassy in Manila is currently quite strict about vetting women seeking visas to Australia. Just last week a single, employed, childless businesswoman with her own house was denied a tourist visa to Australia, and she asked me for assistance since she knows I spend a lot of time in the Embassy with various work assignments. I was unable to find out why she was denied her visa.

I am also interested to know how the girls are sent a plane ticket from Australia to fly from the Philippines. I cannot send my kids a ticket to fly from Australia to Manila. I have to send the money and they book the ticket themselves. Maybe that's what you were actually saying (in shorthand).I tend to agree with a lot of what Red Kilt says and you certainly couldn't just send a girl an airline ticket from the state either. Having said that I have however met several Americans at MNL that said they where "going to meet my fiancee'.

But one thing I don't understand is why you can't go online and buy and airline ticket for your kids? I think I can go online and buy an airline ticket for anyone, they would have to have provide their documents at the airport?

Frenzy3
01-10-12, 06:51
RK David said plane tickets not money. I know guys back home stupid enough to do some thing like that.

Red Kilt
01-10-12, 07:26
RK David said plane tickets not money. I know guys back home stupid enough to do some thing like that.I know he said that, but I don't know how he did it (read carefully what I said Frenzy).

I cannot buy a ticket in Manila for my kids to fly from Sydney to Manila.

Pinaypounder
01-10-12, 09:03
DIA is fun and free and it breaks the rule "you get what you pay for."

I have had great live sex once I get there it can take as little as 30 minutes after logging on, countless hours of webcam sex and heard stories I tell my buds forever and I have met women that I am friends with 4 years later.

If a man sends some woman cash that he has never met well then he has to much money and good for her. If your self esteem is that low I assure you even jungle girls will tire of you soon.

Better to buy some self help books with that 10, 000 pesos or spend it on a personal trainer and take care of urself first. Then you can find better women or at least the jungle girls will love you longer.

There are some good women there and some scammers but in any bar in canada on any given night you will find the same, the difference is that here you will rarely fuck a 5 1 98 lb 25 year old HOTTIE.

So fish away, sometimes they bite and some time you fall out of the boat, but its free and worth every cent.

PP

Punter 127
01-10-12, 09:47
I cannot buy a ticket in Manila for my kids to fly from Sydney to Manila.I'm sorry but I'm a little confused, why wouldn't you be able to buy them a ticket in Manila?

Red Kilt
01-10-12, 10:52
I'm sorry but I'm a little confused, why wouldn't you be able to buy them a ticket in Manila?OK my error Punter.

I just rechecked online and through my travel company adviser and it seems to have changed now from a few years ago when I tried to do it. I believe that to do it you must pay full fares (not discounted ones).

I recall that I was trying to avail of special fares offered by Qantas (Philippines) between Manila-Sydney-Manila but they were NOT available Sydney-Manila-Sydney. You could not book Australia to Manila from Philippines on the discounted fares. Some internal promotion thing.

Even now, you MUST go to the Qantas office in person in Manila to validate your internet purchase for a trip originating outside of Philippines (as just quoted to me by my friendly travel adviser). Strange but true.

I don't know the requirements for PAL or other airlines

Punter 127
01-10-12, 11:34
OK my error Punter.

I just rechecked online and through my travel company adviser and it seems to have changed now from a few years ago when I tried to do it. I believe that to do it you must pay full fares (not discounted ones).

I recall that I was trying to avail of special fares offered by Qantas (Philippines) between Manila-Sydney-Manila but they were NOT available Sydney-Manila-Sydney. You could not book Australia to Manila from Philippines on the discounted fares. Some internal promotion thing.

Even now, you MUST go to the Qantas office in person in Manila to validate your internet purchase for a trip originating outside of Philippines (as just quoted to me by my friendly travel adviser). Strange but true.

I don't know the requirements for PAL or other airlinesCool, I thought maybe it had something to do with Australia that I was unaware of.

You know your post has reminded me that I did buy a DIA girl a ticket on PAL one time to come visit me in Cebu and I don't even remember where she lived now, but I had to go to the PAL office and verify my credit card before the flight or she would have had to show the card at check in.

So I just got the card verified and emailed her the itinerary and she didn't have any problems. It's a shame our visit didn't go that well, she turned to be a real pain in the ass, but that's another story.

Thanks for the update.

Mc Don
01-10-12, 13:07
Cool, I thought maybe it had something to do with Australia that I was unaware of.

You know your post has reminded me that I did buy a DIA girl a ticket on PAL one time to come visit me in Cebu and I don't even remember where she lived now, but I had to go to the PAL office and verify my credit card before the flight or she would have had to show the card at check in.

So I just got the card verified and emailed her the itinerary and she didn't have any problems. It's a shame our visit didn't go that well, she turned to be a real pain in the ass, but that's another story.

Thanks for the update.Just in case you are not aware of it the easiest way to avoid the card verification issue is by buying a ticket for the girl from a travel agent. I have done this few times, she can pick up the ticket from the aiport by presenting her I'd only. Yes you do end up paying few hundreed peso extra commision to the travel agent but its far less pain in the butt and also it keeps your details private from the girl.

Member #4351
01-10-12, 15:40
I find this extraordinary on a number of counts David.I have no idea how the mechanics of the ticket purchase, etc. worked. These guys are desperate and seem to find ways to get things done. She obviously went there initially on a tourist visa. Had to go back to Cebu after some months while the guy was moving papers around in Australia and then went back, got married and had a baby to seal the deal. The funny part is that the family in Cebu is really pissed off about the whole thing, especially the father. Turns out the desperate Aussie has an ex wife (of course) as well as a large number of kids. So when the old guy kicks the bucket, there won't be much left for San Miguels in Cebu. She was a real cutie too, one of the best I ever met. Had boobs than would have had D Cups buying his plane ticket.

Fast Buck Artist
01-10-12, 18:48
Is it my imagination or has the quality of girls on DIA been diminishing over the last year or two?

In particular my impression is that there has been a decrease in the proportion of college graduate girls and an increase in the proportion of single mums.

Do others agree or is it just my imagination?Greg, DIA pinays have been the bottom of the social ladder for as far as I remember, and I first used DIA in 2007, I don't see any change at all.

The only change I see is an increase in the number of english-speaking indonesians there, some of whom are quite worthwhile speaking to.

FreebieFan
01-11-12, 01:55
Just in case you are not aware of it the easiest way to avoid the card verification issue is by buying a ticket for the girl from a travel agent. I have done this few times, she can pick up the ticket from the aiport by presenting her I'd only. Yes you do end up paying few hundreed peso extra commision to the travel agent but its far less pain in the butt and also it keeps your details private from the girl.Reminds me of a time when I was buying tickets for ladies through Air Asia. Would give Air asia the girls email add so the girl would get her copy of the confirmation and could then print her own ticket.

Well one day, they booked a ticket for one Indonesian lady, but didn't change the email add, so they sent the ticket and details to a former honey in Thailand. Not happy at all.

Cunning Stunt
01-11-12, 05:29
Odd, but I have found the opposite. I think that the quality, at least in the NCR, has improved. The girls seem more desperate as well (I guess they would have to be to consort with me!) and willing to cut to the chase far more quickly. There seem to be more semi-professionals trawling for business on the site which is OK by me as you know exactly where you stand and you get a much better experience if there are financial inducements. They know that they have to earn their tip (at least they do with me).

Perhaps been in situ makes a difference. A girl is far more willing to show her hand if she knows you are at the end of a local CP call / text and can meet her at relatively short notice.

I have a backlog of tasty 18-22's that I have yet to get around to, but who text me on a regular basis. They are sometimes pests especially when the send me a 'Gud morning' text at 5am. It's a tough life!

Member #4491
01-11-12, 17:40
http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5459530440

Private profile so could be fake, but if you find her using the match making functionality, you will see her tag line:

"I'm SINGLE AND LOOKING FOR HOT GUYS THAT WILL FUCK ME REAL GOOD'

Note the plural form "GUYS".

Barba

X Man
01-12-12, 09:07
Spent hours culling DIA gals who lived in Cebu, I had no intention of spending much time in MNL. Then, two days before my trip I sent a few msgs to mnl gals. I got a reply. Wow. Somehow I walked into nypmpmaniac hell. Had to up my dose of CialisVItamin. SHe was so good I took her to AC and Subic. My friends laughed at me."why do you take sand to the beach?". I finally made my way to Cebu. Then there were a few winners on Tgd. Wow again. The gall started her BJ low and then went lower. Rim job on the first date.

One of my best trips ever. I don't even have any tan lines to show to the gals here in Tokyo since I spent so much time in the bedroom.

X Man


Odd, but I have found the opposite. I think that the quality, at least in the NCR, has improved. The girls seem more desperate as well (I guess they would have to be to consort with me!) and willing to cut to the chase far more quickly. There seem to be more semi-professionals trawling for business on the site which is OK by me as you know exactly where you stand and you get a much better experience if there are financial inducements. They know that they have to earn their tip (at least they do with me).

Perhaps been in situ makes a difference. A girl is far more willing to show her hand if she knows you are at the end of a local CP call / text and can meet her at relatively short notice.

I have a backlog of tasty 18-22's that I have yet to get around to, but who text me on a regular basis. They are sometimes pests especially when the send me a 'Gud morning' text at 5am. It's a tough life!

Aussie Jo
01-13-12, 02:42
I finally made my way to Cebu. Then there were a few winners on Tgd. Wow again. The gall started her BJ low and then went lower. Rim job on the first date.

X ManThanks X Man. I wish there was a way we could share Tagged info without the girls getting exposed to the forum lurkers. I'm a big Tagged fan as well. There are a variety of girls on there, some very serious about relationships and some really serious about getting foreigners into bed. Tagged was my only source of dates for my recent Cebu trip. I'll PM you to see if you met any of the similar.

I wonder about how many physical dates they do get from Tagged and DIA.

Red Kilt
01-13-12, 10:12
You have to laugh at the way some DIA girls try to get our attention.

I am not sure that Voluptous (sic) is really "voluptuous" since you cannot see from her pic, but she got my attention, for a short time anyway, even if she cannot spell.

http://www.dateinasia.com/Voluptous.html

Stroker Ace88
01-13-12, 20:14
You have to laugh at the way some DIA girls try to get our attention.

I am not sure that Voluptous (sic) is really "voluptuous" since you cannot see from her pic, but she got my attention, for a short time anyway, even if she cannot spell.

http://www.dateinasia.com/Voluptous.htmlOften when a girl does not spell the name on her profile I'd correctly it's because her choosen profile I'd is already taken. This leads some girls to get creative and they often change a letter here or there to get the profile I'd they want, but also leads them to look uneducated in the eyes of foreign guys.

In this case 'voluptuous' is not taken on DIA or did not show up on the search so I dunno what she was thinking.

Wolvenvacht
01-13-12, 20:18
You have to laugh at the way some DIA girls try to get our attention.

http://www.dateinasia.com/Voluptous.htmlWhy do they all want a "God fearing man"? It is a bloody discrimination of us atheists!

Mr Enternational
01-14-12, 01:44
Often when a girl does not spell the name on her profile I'd correctly it's because her choosen profile I'd is already taken. This leads some girls to get creative and they often change a letter here or there to get the profile I'd they want, but also leads them to look uneducated in the eyes of foreign guys.

In this case 'voluptuous' is not taken on DIA or did not show up on the search so I dunno what she was thinking.Maybe the correct spelling was taken when she opened her account, but now has been closed or deleted. I had the same case when I made my original email address and had to substitute the I for an E, but it worked out as being a double entendre so I ended up sticking with it. And the same way it "leads them to look uneducated in the eyes of foreign guys" I have experienced that kind of prejudice with women on dating sites in my country. Never mind me being a LINGUIST, speaking 6 languages and having a Masters in International Business. To them I am just dumb and don't know how to spell.

Red Kilt
01-14-12, 04:06
. And the same way it "leads them to look uneducated in the eyes of foreign guys" I have experienced that kind of prejudice with women on dating sites in my country. .Just for the record, I wasn't actually intending to cast aspersions on the way pinays use English, especially since their English is almost always WAY better than my Tagalog.

I was just snickering at the way that she used a word (voluptous) that she thought she knew as a means to attract attention from the brigade of big boob seekers.

Regarding tag names already taken: it is easier to just add a random number onto the name to make it your own rather than to start fiddling with the spelling, but that's just my opinion.

Hairy Wonder
01-14-12, 04:44
Hairy, as Barba and Mr. E have pointed out, she is a he so I am not interested. Got to read the fine print, friend.Sorry about that D Cups! I have to admit that I did not read the profile. I saw the photo and thought it was something you would have been interested in. I apologize again for the mistake.

HW

Jambo
01-14-12, 04:45
I dunno about this one, she's cute, with decent tits, and twin 16yo sisters in the on-deck circle. But here is my TXT stream with her:
Me:. Hi I'm in Makati now, would like to see you.
Her: really you in makati now?
Me: sure, come see me, how far away do you live.
Her: very far, how long you stay?
Me: I leave on Monday. If you travel here, I can pay for the expense.
Her: How can I go there, I don't have money, no job.
Me: Well how far are you?
Her: very far.
Me: Well maybe next time then. What Town are you in?
Her: Masbate
Me: (I am checking Google maps now) What, in Quezon City? Thats not far.
Her: Not quezon province.
Me: Well Quezon City is not far, I can pay for the taxi when he arrives.
Her: I'm here in Masbate how can I travel there?
Me: Thats Masbate in Quezon City, right? I can pay for a taxi.
Her: Masbate is not a quezon city, Masbate in the province.
Me: (recalculating Google Maps. Google shows several listings showing Masbate Province on the island of Bicol) Ah in Bicol? I thought you were in Manila! Oh well maybe I can come visit you next time.
Her: not Bicol.
Me: Well I can't visit you if I don't know where you live.
Her: this is Masbate.
[to myself - well I guess if you know where You are, that's all you really need to know]

Red Kilt
01-14-12, 05:36
Sorry to say Jambo but you also needed to do some homework too.

Masbate is a distinct province (and island) in the northern part of Visayas.

I have been there several times and believe me it is one of the poorest provinces in the Philippines (along with Samar and parts of Western Mindanao).

We have discussed many times here how filipinos in general do not learn geography and also have difficulty in placing themselves in the world.

I have lost many minutes trying to find pinays in malls. They use this term "I am here" to describe where they are at the present time without any reference to adjacent landmarks. I have now taught my better half (who is intelligent) to describe her position as "I am here in SM Department Store on Level 2 beside Cashier number 11 instead of her previous description of "I am here, beside the escalator".

Cut her some slack mate. It is both a lack of education, schooling and an awareness of using some sort of coordinates to state where she is.

Hyron Hush
01-14-12, 05:59
Me: Well maybe next time then. What Town are you in?

Her: MasbateGreetings,

Just guessing here, but it sounds to me that at this particular point she may be trying to tell you that she is in the CITY of Masbate, which would indeed be in the province of Masbate in Bicol Region but you may be the one confusing her by bringing up Quezon City next instead.

Regards,

H2

Jambo
01-14-12, 06:28
it is one of the poorest provinces in the Philippines (along with Samar and parts of Western Mindanao).Well thanks, things do look positive then, but she will have to wait. I didn't bring my machete this trip.

WestCoast1
01-14-12, 06:46
We have discussed many times here how filipinos in general do not learn geography and also have difficulty in placing themselves in the world.I've found that until one starts driving a vehicle on a regular basis, one has a terrible sense of local geography. The local pilipino might know exactly where the mall is, and he might know exactly how to walk there, but he will not be able to give you directions. This problem exists outside filipines also.

I've had those same conversations, where the girl says she has no money,"how will I get there no money?" I find it better to deal with that in chat prior to arrival. Make it clear to all of them that the burden of travel is upon the girl, up for reimbursement later.

Frenzy3
01-14-12, 07:05
I dunno about this one, she's cute, with decent tits, and twin 16yo sisters in the on-deck circle. But here is my TXT stream with her:

Me:. Hi I'm in Makati now, would like to see you.

Her: really you in makati now?

Me: sure, come see me, how far away do you live.

Her: very far, how long you stay?

Me: I leave on Monday. If you travel here, I can pay for the expense.

Her: How can I go there, I don't have money, no job.

Me: Well how far are you?

Her: very far.

Me: Well maybe next time then. What Town are you in?

Her: Masbate

Me: (I am checking Google maps now) What, in Quezon City? Thats not far.

Her: Not quezon province.

Me: Well Quezon City is not far, I can pay for the taxi when he arrives.

Her: I'm here in Masbate how can I travel there?

Me: Thats Masbate in Quezon City, right? I can pay for a taxi.

Her: Masbate is not a quezon city, Masbate in the province.

Me: (recalculating Google Maps. Google shows several listings showing Masbate Province on the island of Bicol) Ah in Bicol? I thought you were in Manila! Oh well maybe I can come visit you next time.

Her: not Bicol.

Me: Well I can't visit you if I don't know where you live.

Her: this is Masbate.

[to myself. Well I guess if you know where You are, that's all you really need to know]What part of very far did you not get. She knows where she lives you need to learn how they talk about address's as Masbate city is not in Bicol you did ask town not area. Even if she was in bicol she could not take a taxi as you recommend. How about learn about the place before you try make her look stupid. As you look really dumb posting this with the last line trying to insult her intelligence and education if that is the real text she is educated and would not be real poor.

Soon as you said where you where she said it was far but you thought you where smarter than her only to post her text here and prove that your not.

Sorry to have a go at you but so many guys treat the locals like they are dumb when they are smart. Then come here complaining they have been scammed. You seem to be one in the making.

Mc Don
01-14-12, 07:09
I dunno about this one, she's cute, with decent tits, and twin 16yo sisters in the on-deck circle. But here is my TXT stream with her:

Me:. Hi I'm in Makati now, would like to see you.

Her: really you in makati now?

Me: sure, come see me, how far away do you live.

Her: very far, how long you stay?

Me: I leave on Monday. If you travel here, I can pay for the expense.

Her: How can I go there, I don't have money, no job.

Me: Well how far are you?

Her: very far.

Me: Well maybe next time then. What Town are you in?

Her: Masbate

Me: (I am checking Google maps now) What, in Quezon City? Thats not far.

Her: Not quezon province.

Me: Well Quezon City is not far, I can pay for the taxi when he arrives.

Her: I'm here in Masbate how can I travel there?

Me: Thats Masbate in Quezon City, right? I can pay for a taxi.

Her: Masbate is not a quezon city, Masbate in the province.

Me: (recalculating Google Maps. Google shows several listings showing Masbate Province on the island of Bicol) Ah in Bicol? I thought you were in Manila! Oh well maybe I can come visit you next time.

Her: not Bicol.

Me: Well I can't visit you if I don't know where you live.

Her: this is Masbate.

[to myself. Well I guess if you know where You are, that's all you really need to know]One of my ex gfs was from masbate. Worth visiting if you can handle the luck of descent accommodation. Lots of spanish blood, so big tits, nice looking ladies on offer but you need to be discrete. Perhaps easier to go find and move to another island with her.

X Man
01-14-12, 11:02
I may have underestimated F3. Although I understand the frustration of the original poster, he has to understand that there may be some very large language and cultural barriers. I've sometimes tried to call the gal when having similar problems, but found that the communication is often just as bad.

I have to say that the first time a gal suggested I meet the taxi and pay (not communicated so clearly as I've written) I was totally confounded. She must have thought me a total idiot as she waited uncomfortably in the taxi as I texted,"yea, I'm in the mall wearing plaid bell bottoms. What are you wearing?" X.


What part of very far did you not get. She knows where she lives you need to learn how they talk about address's as Masbate city is not in Bicol you did ask town not area. Even if she was in bicol she could not take a taxi as you recommend. How about learn about the place before you try make her look stupid. As you look really dumb posting this with the last line trying to insult her intelligence and education if that is the real text she is educated and would not be real poor.

Soon as you said where you where she said it was far but you thought you where smarter than her only to post her text here and prove that your not.

Sorry to have a go at you but so many guys treat the locals like they are dumb when they are smart. Then come here complaining they have been scammed. You seem to be one in the making.

Red Kilt
01-14-12, 12:44
I offer this anecdote as a warning to those newbies who think the Philippines is just point and click.

There are many deeper layers so beware.

I am a very experienced DIA user. Met a very cute 26 year old. We exchanged a message and cell phone numbers and then sent a few texts back and forth.

She works in SM Makati. Said she didn't have an email and I could come to her work and see her and she could meet me there.

I did that last Thursday. She is even better in person than on her pic on DIA. Tall and slim and very sweet. We chatted for a few minutes and I discovered her day off is next Tuesday Jan 17. We arranged to meet. She is very excited and numerous texts between Thursday night and Friday / Friday night confirm her readiness to meet.

Today (Sat) I get 2 texts. One said "This is (x) 's husband. Please stop texting my wife".

Second text said "Do not meet my wife or I will kill you".

Needless to say this cute little sweety is now OFF my list. I was really shocked as I never thought that she was not who she said she was.

There are a couple of warnings here.

NEVER text too many details about you to any woman that you intend to meet. You have no idea who will read these texts. Girls are often "romantic" and they keep their texts so they can go back to them over and over and also show to their friends. They can also be read by others (Husbands, boyfriends etc). Thankfully there was nothing on my texts to identify me or where I live.

So be wary about texting things like your correct name, your hotel and room number or where you live if you are staying here. It is better to meet a contact in a neutral place with security (mall coffee shop) and go from there. In my case, the hubby had no idea about me, but imagine if I had arranged for her by text how and where to meet me (for example, in a hotel).

Newbies. Remember to be very careful about how much to say to girls via text, because girls' cps are not necessarily private property and they share them around easily between friends. Some boyfriends / partners / husbands also vet their partner's texts too.

It was a good wake up call for me. (I just noticed her DIA profile is now taken down so no point in me mentioning it here as a warning).
It is of course transferable to every situation and not just DIA. Bar sneak-outs are another source of risk if you use texts. remember: you do not know who is reading them.

Frenzy3
01-14-12, 13:07
RK I would also add to that you do not know who her husband knows, he may have had some one seen you talk to his wife. I had people tell my gf they saw me at place x, some even come up and say Hi, but if I am with another girl I would say they would just text the gf.

Red Kilt
01-14-12, 13:42
RK I would also add to that you do not know who her husband knows, he may have had some one seen you talk to his wife. I had people tell my gf they saw me at place x, some even come up and say Hi, but if I am with another girl I would say they would just text the gf.Good heads-up Frenzy.

Most gossips love to be "the first" to tell someone they Know about some mutual acquaintance's business, whether innocent or not.

Filipinas love tsismis (gossip) and are professional tsismosas (gossipers). The guys will do it too. Just look at the way the prosecutors in the impeachment case against the Chief Justice could not stop themselves from releasing some of their evidence before the trial has even started.

Nothing about anyone is discreet in the Philippines.

Anyway. I am going to lay low for a while. Time to re-evaluate a few things. I might even hide my DIA profile for a while too.

GoodEnough
01-14-12, 16:53
RK I would also add to that you do not know who her husband knows, he may have had some one seen you talk to his wife. I had people tell my gf they saw me at place x, some even come up and say Hi, but if I am with another girl I would say they would just text the gf.RK, thanks for posting what is an excellent cautionary tale with implications for everyone. I can only reinforce what's been said by others. This is, at the end of the day, a small place, particularly for those of us who live here. You never know who is watching you and who is going to report to whom. I a friend-an older woman in my office-who told me that the staff of the Marco Polo here in Davao used to let her know every time a previous expat employee of ours had women in his room. He thought he was being discrete, while apparently, my friend, and all of her friends, and all of her friends' friends knew every move this guy made. The bottom line is that there are no secrets in your own zip code.

GE

Chocha Monger
01-14-12, 17:12
RK, thanks for posting what is an excellent cautionary tale with implications for everyone. I can only reinforce what's been said by others. This is, at the end of the day, a small place, particularly for those of us who live here. You never know who is watching you and who is going to report to whom. I a friend-an older woman in my office-who told me that the staff of the Marco Polo here in Davao used to let her know every time a previous expat employee of ours had women in his room. He thought he was being discrete, while apparently, my friend, and all of her friends, and all of her friends' friends knew every move this guy made. The bottom line is that there are no secrets in your own zip code.

GEWas there a motive for the old crone to keep tabs on the sexual dalliances of said expat employee?

Frenzy3
01-14-12, 17:38
Was there a motive for the old crone to keep tabs on the sexual dalliances of said expat employee?I just put it down to boredom they just enjoy scandal. Oh and RK I said that as she probably thought she could get away with it as most couples do not check phones and he would have just found a number with out a name after been told about the meetup. I think you are safe but next time meet in places where you have more privacy and get her to meet you there where no one can see. I even have staff just to do these meetings and if they ever tell they lose the job. Drivers can not be trusted I usually use a gay to organise this and pay no more than 2000 every month.

Ebauche
01-14-12, 18:03
Was there a motive for the old crone to keep tabs on the sexual dalliances of said expat employee?National pastime. Gossip.

Tally Wacker
01-14-12, 18:42
I'm going to post this response here from the photo gallery. I've been wanting to talk about dating filipinas here in California. I know there are other guys looking to marry a filipina.

How did you know she was a nurse? LOL. Your correct about the filipina nurses here in California. I've been dating only filipinas here in California that I've met on Match and another dating site. Alot of them are divorced from american guys who brought them over from Phil. The marriages did not work out for various reasons that have been spoken about here before. Age difference, expectations on both parties, the guy was drunk and abusive or the girl may have been gold a digger, etc. They already have their visa's so you don't have to be concerned that they are looking for a sponsor. Plus most of them are educated and work as nurses. The dificult part is finding a young sexy one without too many kids that will be attrated to a little older guy.

I also have a crazy story I will share later about my 32 year old filipina house cleaner from Manila that is Smoking Hot and is married to a guy who is wealthy and 20 years older than her. She cooks, cleans and then we fuck. She does not get enough sex from her husband. I feel bad that she is married but its impossible to keep my hands off her. I have dated many beautiful filipinas and she is by far the most beautiful girl I have ever met. I wish I could post photos of her but I don't want to get her in trouble.


Is she a nurse, by any chance? The nursing profession in CA is teeming with Filipinas.

WestCoast1
01-14-12, 19:13
The bottom line is that there are no secrets in your own zip code.

GEAlong the same lines, I get a lot of this bamboo pipeline in AC. I have several regular bargirls I spend time with in AC. I get what might be considered anywhere else these strange txt msgs from them at odd times. Its, say 2pm, I'm in the mall with last nights fresh barfine-hanger-on, finishing a late lunch when I get a txt from one of my regulars, that says: "is she bargirl? How well you know her that girl you eating with?" Or,"be careful that girl you talking the mall." The regular is a mile away, at home or in her bar on shift. How the fuck did she know I'm in the mall? Very simple. The bamboo pipeline. The girls (at times, I'll admit its not often or regular) seem to have eyes in the backs of their heads (or spy glasses that can see for miles and through buildings). They share phone pics with their friends of their dates (such as me) , and then one of her friends sees me in the mall one day and txts my regular that I'm having lunch with some other gal. I'm sure that not only do they share their phone pics with each other, they also look thru each others phones discretely when the other girl is not around. If her friends can look thru her phone, her bf / hubby certainly will also.

Interesting thought. I've never been tempted to look thru my local gf's phone in my country. But if I lived in phils, knowing what I do about how quick the girls are to cheat (I just think of how many have cheated on their bf / hubby with me, and without my knowledge at times) , I'd probably be tempted to look thru it from time-to-time, just like RK's mall date.

Mr Enternational
01-14-12, 21:56
It's funny because I have had the same experience in Thailand and China. They always seem to know that something is going on when they are not around. I guess it makes sense since they know there are always a lot of girls making themselves available that there is a 90% chance that we will be with someone if they aren't there. I'm glad you brought up the phone pics too.Exactly the reason I don't like meeting friends and taking pictures (that they will keep). Because I don't want anyone knowing who the fuck I am.

Member #4643
01-14-12, 22:25
I offer this anecdote as a warning to those newbies who think the Philippines is just point and click.

There are many deeper layers so beware.

I am a very experienced DIA user. Met a very cute 26 year old. We exchanged a message and cell phone numbers and then sent a few texts back and forth.

She works in SM Makati. Said she didn't have an email and I could come to her work and see her and she could meet me there.

I did that last Thursday. She is even better in person than on her pic on DIA. Tall and slim and very sweet. We chatted for a few minutes and I discovered her day off is next Tuesday Jan 17. We arranged to meet. She is very excited and numerous texts between Thursday night and Friday / Friday night confirm her readiness to meet.

Today (Sat) I get 2 texts. One said "This is (x) 's husband. Please stop texting my wife".

Second text said "Do not meet my wife or I will kill you".

Needless to say this cute little sweety is now OFF my list. I was really shocked as I never thought that she was not who she said she was.

There are a couple of warnings here.

NEVER text too many details about you to any woman that you intend to meet. You have no idea who will read these texts. Girls are often "romantic" and they keep their texts so they can go back to them over and over and also show to their friends. They can also be read by others (Husbands, boyfriends etc). Thankfully there was nothing on my texts to identify me or where I live.

So be wary about texting things like your correct name, your hotel and room number or where you live if you are staying here. It is better to meet a contact in a neutral place with security (mall coffee shop) and go from there. In my case, the hubby had no idea about me, but imagine if I had arranged for her by text how and where to meet me (for example, in a hotel).

Newbies. Remember to be very careful about how much to say to girls via text, because girls' cps are not necessarily private property and they share them around easily between friends. Some boyfriends / partners / husbands also vet their partner's texts too.

It was a good wake up call for me. (I just noticed her DIA profile is now taken down so no point in me mentioning it here as a warning).

It is of course transferable to every situation and not just DIA. Bar sneak-outs are another source of risk if you use texts. Remember: you do not know who is reading them.About 5 years ago, I was in love with a BEAUTIFUL Brazilian girl. Thin waist, great tits, beautiful smile, green eyes, dark skin, etc. Not only was she beautiful, but she was incredibly talented in bed. She had made a few porno movies, and I guess they taught her how to give a proper blow job, how to position herself in reverse cowgirl so she wasn't about to snap the penis off at the base, etc.

In any case, we hit it off well, and she traveled to Italy with me on business for a week of incredible pleasure.

So, I decided to invite her to Europe again I call her cell phone in Rio, and discover she is pregnant (not by me, but I am not jealous). No big deal, I pay for the abortion, and we make plans to go to Spain. A month later, I call to make plans about the dates, and her "husband" answers and tells me he is a policeman and will kill me if he ever sees me next to his woman again. It turns out that they were not married, but I did not know.

I try fruitlessly to contact my girl by email, using her mother's cell, etc for about a month, and finally she sends me an email that she is pregnant and is going to get maried to the guy.

Fast forward two years, and I receive regular emails from her about what an asshole he is. He does not like having sex with her (this is a girl who NEEDS sex once to twice daily). She left him a few weeks ago. I have fucked her every time I have been to Rio in the last year and a half. Here is the best part: he is physically a little guy, he works as a taxi dispatcher and I (despite my age and relatively modest physique) could kick his ass.

Moral of the story: avoid meeting husband at all costs, but if you want to fuck the girl, go ahead. She wouldn't be interested in you if he were really worthwhile.

Wolvenvacht
01-14-12, 23:39
The most amusing thing to me is how they will be all over us about being with other girls and they are saying it not more then 10 minutes after draining some other guy.Yes, but for them it is just their job.

Mr Enternational
01-15-12, 02:35
About 5 years ago, I was in love with a BEAUTIFUL Brazilian girl. Thin waist, great tits, beautiful smile, green eyes, dark skin, etc. Not only was she beautiful, but she was incredibly talented in bed. She had made a few porno movies, and I guess they taught her how to give a proper blow job, how to position herself in reverse cowgirl so she wasn't about to snap the penis off at the base, etc.

In any case, we hit it off well, and she traveled to Italy with me on business for a week of incredible pleasure.

So, I decided to invite her to Europe again I call her cell phone in Rio, and discover she is pregnant (not by me, but I am not jealous). No big deal, I pay for the abortion, and we make plans to go to Spain.Sounds exactly like a girl I used to mess with in Rio circa 2004 that a friend hooked me up with. The green eyes were contacts though. It would be extremely rare to find a non-white girl in Brazil whose eyes are not naturally brown. But she would often go to Spain as well. Her work name starts with an A but her real name starts with an S. She wasn't all that attractive to me, but she had a body out of this world. Maybe these are your big ass shoes in this photo that she once gave me. In the pic with me you can see the green contacts and fake hair.

Fast Buck Artist
01-15-12, 04:34
Today (Sat) I get 2 texts. One said "This is (x) 's husband. Please stop texting my wife".

Second text said "Do not meet my wife or I will kill you".

Needless to say this cute little sweety is now OFF my list. I was really shocked as I never thought that she was not who she said she was.I ran into several variations of this "galit husband txt". Don't assume its an actual angry husband! The last time I got this "galit txt" I call the phone and there is no answer. Then I reply to the message. "OK lets meet up and discuss this". After a pause the "husband" replies and weasels out with some lame excuse.

There is a number of things that could be going on here:

- She just doesn't want to talk to you anymore, but has no guts to say it, so she invents the "angry husband" to get rid of you.

- Her whole DIA jig was just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off her boyfriend, and she left the phone intentionally accessible to him. Typical female mind games.

- The girl is a grade A+ drama queen, if she's got no drama in her life to match the latest episode of "Kahit Isang Saglit", she's going to make it up.

So far I am yet to meet an actual "angry husband", though I have offered every time. Either these guys are total spineless cowards, or, more likely, there is no guy and the woman is just playing stupid mind games with you.

Either way, a woman of that kind is definitely OFF my list, I am just saying dont feel threatened or that you need to hide your profile, or change phone numbers, or whatever.

Red Kilt
01-15-12, 06:53
- She just doesn't want to talk to you anymore, but has no guts to say it, so she invents the "angry husband" to get rid of you.

. <SNIP . Either way, a woman of that kind is definitely OFF my list, I am just saying don't feel threatened or that you need to hide your profile, or change phone numbers, or whatever.Just a final word on this episode that may add another dot-point for you FBA.

I have now had several ultra-apologetic texts from her telling me it was her boarding-house "friend" who "barrowed" her phone and sent the texts to me because she was jealous that she had "found" a foreigner boyfriend. Crazy dramas and mind games and intrigues.

However, she is still OFF my list and will remain so and I have not responded.

As FBA knows (we exchanged war stories over a coffee one day) , there is way too much to lose career-wise for us foreigners by getting caught up in these petty dramas, and anyway, I STILL don't know if the jealous housemate is also a fabricated story to conceal a husband / boyfriend.

The whole tale has lots of warnings and potential pitfalls (as GE and Frenzy, for example, point out as well).

Anyone who visits here expecting life to be simple and with story-book endings should change their mind-set.

Over and out.

Member #4643
01-15-12, 18:03
Sounds exactly like a girl I used to mess with in Rio circa 2004 that a friend hooked me up with. The green eyes were contacts though. It would be extremely rare to find a non-white girl in Brazil whose eyes are not naturally brown. But she would often go to Spain as well. Her work name starts with an A but her real name starts with an S. She wasn't all that attractive to me, but she had a body out of this world. Maybe these are your big ass shoes in this photo that she once gave me. In the pic with me you can see the green contacts and fake hair.My girl was white, by the way. Not Norwegian white, but she certainly was not a Morena.

Now that my girl has left her husband, she wants to travel with me again. The only problem is that there is a line of new garotas. Since she is bi sexual, I am trying to save enough money to bring a pair!

Hairy Wonder
01-15-12, 18:14
Yes, but for them it is just their job.For entertaining the guys in the bar, I agree. But the fact is that they will go out with any guy that pays the bar fine. Why should we be anymore loyal to them than they are to us. Stating that it is their job is just a convenient excuse. Bottom line for me, it's not a relationship. It's just a fun night in bed.

Stroker Ace88
01-15-12, 21:47
I ran into several variations of this "galit husband txt". Don't assume its an actual angry husband! The last time I got this "galit txt" I call the phone and there is no answer. Then I reply to the message."OK lets meet up and discuss this". After a pause the "husband" replies and weasels out with some lame excuse.

So far I am yet to meet an actual "angry husband", though I have offered every time. Either these guys are total spineless cowards, or, more likely, there is no guy and the woman is just playing stupid mind games with you.Descretion is the better part of valor when it comes to dealing with BF's or hubbies in the Philippines. Bullets are cheap and so is life when you step on someones toes.

Frenzy3
01-16-12, 09:15
Yes I met a girl over sinalog, I saw her with a BF, as soon as I could get her alone we exchange numbers, she claims it her ex, but guess what she will meet me at my house or her sisters house. LOL

i will never text sex talk in case the bf reads it

Hairy Wonder
01-16-12, 09:32
I encountered something similar to this "angry husband / bf" scenario. A girl I was keeping in contact with sent me an uncharacteristic e-mail begging me to send money immediately. According to the message, there was a serious illness in the family, and they needed money right away to pay the doctor bill. I didn't reply, mostly because I was upset at her for asking. A few days later, she contacted me with messages that seemed like nothing had ever been wrong. When I questioned about the illness, she responded that she had no idea what I was talking about and claimed that she never sent such a message. The next day, she sent me a very apologetic message stating that one of her family members had found her e-mail open on the computer when they sat down, and sent the false e-mail to try to get money. I'm not sure what the actual truth is, but I was never asked for money again by her. What's the old saying?"Trust but verify!"

X Man
01-16-12, 11:32
Congratulations on your efforts to pick up other men's women. But what does that have to do with the chat thread?

X


Yes I met a girl over sinalog, I saw her with a BF, as soon as I could get her alone we exchange numbers, she claims it her ex, but guess what she will meet me at my house or her sisters house. LOL.

I will never text sex talk in case the bf reads it

GoodEnough
01-16-12, 11:33
Descretion is the better part of valor when it comes to dealing with BF's or hubbies in the Philippines. Bullets are cheap and so is life when you step on someones toes.Truer words were never spoken. You may be right 99 times out of 100 that it's not a husband but a jealous girlfriend, but there's always that 100th time. Guns are everwhere, tempers run hot and law enforcement is a concept Filipinos see on television, if they have a television. Be safe and move on.

GE

Fast Buck Artist
01-16-12, 14:44
Descretion is the better part of valor when it comes to dealing with BF's or hubbies in the Philippines. Bullets are cheap and so is life when you step on someones toes.I am not sure what "valor" we are talking about on this prostitution forum, as for discretion, I don't get intimidated by anonymous sms bravado. Called their bluff every time and have no regrets in this matter. Have yet to meet any real husbands. Every time it was stupid mind games being played by the girl and her loser teenage friends. Still fear for your safety? :) You have 1000x the resources of the guy you are meeting up with, what are you afraid of? Hire private security for a day to give him a patdown for weapons before he enters the venue of the meetup. It's very cheap to arrange.

Member #4491
01-17-12, 01:20
While I agree that these dogs often bark and never even nibble, I think it is wise to challenge ones own motives for any kind of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out. Who would possibly win anything on this?

If there is a man that has any claims to her, it is better to let them be in their misery. If there is not, it is better to let her be in her misery. No one wins on behaving like a confused teenager in an adult body. Better to challenge your own ego and text this mystery man an apology for unknowingly stepping into his relation (now that takes both self control and distance from the primitive monkey raving inside us, over this little ant that dares to speak up to the mighty warrior we all consider us to be).

Females with the slightest shred of intelligence like grown ups, so maybe one loose this one but surely win ten more in the long run. And you might actually end up liking yourself as well, for not acting like a retarded Neanderthal for once. LOL.

Peace monger-bros! Don't be so serious about your so called pride. It is in our heads, and we will all gain from acting like gentlemen.

Barba

Red Kilt
01-17-12, 10:09
While I agree that these dogs often bark and never even nibble, I think it is wise to challenge ones own motives for any kind of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out. Who would possibly win anything on this?

If there is a man that has any claims to her, it is better to let them be in their misery. If there is not, it is better to let her be in her misery. No one wins on behaving like a confused teenager in an adult body. Better to challenge your own ego and text this mystery man an apology for unknowingly stepping into his relation (now that takes both self control and distance from the primitive monkey raving inside us, over this little ant that dares to speak up to the mighty warrior we all consider us to be).Excellent sentiments Barba. A post of distinction Sir.

It takes me just 5 minutes to get over the righteous indignation I feel when some unknown keyboard warrior (email or text) challenges me in some way. After that 5 mins I move on and never look back. There is no point, and I can never "win".

As you said, any email or text "win" is a hollow victory anyway because you are defeating an unknown shadow. If you end up meeting the hubby / boyfriend, then by any possible calculation, you must lose.

Maantra
01-17-12, 19:04
I decided to meet with my DIA girl who needed help with her tuition. We ended up not taking a trip anywhere, just hung out in Cebu at my hotel and going to the cinema and other stuff.

Spent four excellent days together. She is actually very nice company, and superb in the sack. Too good in fact, fact for me to believe her 1BF 1 time claim. The first time we screwed, she did very well, didn't get emotional or anything. Her bedroom moves were adequate, but not stunning to the point you would think she does this all the time. Nice tight snatch, the way a 19 year old should be. Thumb all the way up her ass during doggystyle, no problem. She let me try anal, but it was hell getting it in even with plenty of lube and it was hurting her too much. Maybe I need to invest in one of those ass plugs I'm always seeing over there on the photos board haha. She took a full CIM without even a squeak – I did tell her it was coming. Still swears up and down that I'm the first Kano she's been with. Yeah, right.

I had wanted to move up the date for our meeting by one day and I texted her to see if she could. She said she needed to attend her friend's 18th debut party that night but could meet the next day. Okay, fine. So I text her while she's at the party and ask her to take some pictures so I can see all the fun later. She texts back and says sorry no camera. The next day we meet and I check her phone, sure enough it has a camera – but not good enough quality for good pictures she says. Sure, honey, whatever. Can you imagine a Pinay being at an event like a debut party with karaoke and not taking at least a few photos on her cameraphone, even if the quality is crappy? I can't.

When we met at Ayala, she shows up with a big fucking bouquet of flowers. I was rather alarmed (without showing it) until she told me they were not for me. Seems her auntie had given them to her as a send off to commemorate her trip with the foreigner. If she did this all the time, I doubt the auntie would go through so much trouble. Or is this just part of the elaborate ruse?

The first night she spends at my hotel, I'm still trying to feel her out to see what I have on my hands. I'll admit the flowers threw me a bit. She's very open with the contents of her purse, showing me family snapshots and other such stuff. She shows me a photo of her two brothers and two cousins together. One of them is throwing up a gang sign so I ask her about it. Sure, she says, he's in a gang, been a member for years. Pointing to the photo, she lists, 'this one is Crips, this one is Bloods, this one is something else. ' I thought Crips and Bloods were supposed to be enemies, I ask her? She wasn't sure about that – so maybe they are just wannabe gangsters haha.

In her purse she also had old tuition receipts from her college. The amounts paid matched what she had previously told me they were, as did the dates of her past attendance. Her course of study is IT and she told me she has taken computers apart to replace motherboards and other maintenance. I couldn't help but chuckling when she told me this – looking at her, I never would have guessed.

Something else she had in her purse was an invitation to attend a matchmaking gathering for a group that pairs Pinays with foreigners. Apparently some lady had come through her barangay passing out invites to all the young attractive single ladies. It's being held at some upscale hotel here in Cebu and there's sure to be lots of available kano there, she said. Cocktail dress required. She still hadn't decided about going, but I told her to just do it, she might find her dream guy there, you know. Maybe he's reading this right now, who knows.

When we first met she told me that she had been on DIA for only a month, and had not met anyone yet. During our talk this night, however, she revealed that she had also been on DIA 'before, a few years ago. ' Yes, when she was 16 (!) she was on DIA, but 'never met anyone from there in person. ' She did actually have an extensive correspondence with this one guy at that time, but passed him off to Mom (with his full knowledge) and Mom ended up meeting with him – don't know the outcome of that encounter.

On our 4th day together, we're at the coffee shop when she gets a phone call from her Mom. During the call, she's very quiet and has this serious look on her face. After the call, she tells me that her uncle just died and her Mom wants to know if she can go home now to be with her family. I'm not too sure I believe her, but it's not really a problem, cause we've already spent 4 days together with plenty of good fucking, and we are still in Cebu anyway.

So we go back to the hotel to get her stuff, she cries over her lost uncle, we bang one last time, and she goes on her way back to Mom. I'm quietly impressed that even with her tuition money burning a hole in her pocket, she still wants to forgo a taxi in favor of a jeepney home.

As she's leaving, I have a pretty clear idea where this all is going. Her tuition money will be reallocated to pay for uncle's funeral costs, and I'll be getting another request for funds a few days later. This is how it works right? I almost thought about asking her to send me a pic of dear old uncle laid out there on the casket, but I figured that would be over the top.

So imagine my surprise 2 days later when I get a text from her at the university. She texts me to say that she's there and registering for classes and she's so happy and thanks for making it possible for her to go back to school. Really, I was surprised. She didn't waste any time getting back into her degree course, apparently. Good for her, I say. She's scheduled to resume classes at the beginning of February.

Still, considering the various inconsistencies to her stories, I decided to move her from being a candidate for long-term support to just paying for this semester in exchange for her time with me. The flowers, the dead uncle, the white lies about DIA and her friend's debut party, it just all seemed a little too strange to me. But, fortunately, I wasn't looking for a wife, so I was willing to overlook these credibility gaps. All in all, I had a great time, and I'm glad it worked out so well. Did I mention she has the most amazing 19 year old tits?

Thanks again for all the input guys. I probably wouldn't have done it without the encouragement posted here.

Member #4351
01-17-12, 20:38
Good report Maantra, and well done. You went with the flow without getting on her case and giving her the third degree like a lot of guys would have done. It sounds like you got your money's worth and she got back into school so everybody's happy. You can wait and see how you feel about the whole situation in 4 or 5 months. One has to be pragmatic. The girl was telling you what she thought you wanted to hear. She wasn't going to be sitting around waiting for you all her life. Could she just stick with you now that she met you and you helped her out? Maybe, maybe not.

Mr Enternational
01-17-12, 21:32
The first night she spends at my hotel, I'm still trying to feel her out to see what I have on my hands. I'll admit the flowers threw me a bit. She's very open with the contents of her purse, showing me family snapshots and other such stuff. In her purse she also had old tuition receipts from her college. The amounts paid matched what she had previously told me they were, as did the dates of her past attendance. Her course of study is IT and she told me she has taken computers apart to replace motherboards and other maintenance. I couldn't help but chuckling when she told me this – looking at her, I never would have guessed.

Something else she had in her purse was an invitation to attend a matchmaking gatheringJust how big is this girl's purse?


When we first met she told me that she had been on DIA for only a month, and had not met anyone yet. During our talk this night, however, she revealed that she had also been on DIA 'before, a few years ago. ' Yes, when she was 16 (!) she was on DIA, but 'never met anyone from there in person. ' She did actually have an extensive correspondence with this one guy at that time, but passed him off to Mom (with his full knowledge) and Mom ended up meeting with himI told you the mama was the freak!


So imagine my surprise 2 days later when I get a text from her at the university. She texts me to say that she's there and registering for classes and she's so happy and thanks for making it possible for her to go back to school. Really, I was surprised. She didn't waste any time getting back into her degree course, apparently. Good for her, I say. She's scheduled to resume classes at the beginning of February.

Still, considering the various inconsistencies to her stories, I decided to move her from being a candidate for long-term support to just paying for this semester in exchange for her time with me.Let me know when next semester starts. I might know a sponsor for her for that one.

Stroker Ace88
01-17-12, 22:21
I decided to meet with my DIA girl who needed help with her tuition. We ended up not taking a trip anywhere, just hung out in Cebu at my hotel and going to the cinema and other stuff.Staying in Cebu was the smart move. Going off to Bohol with a girl that is untested is a real recipe for disaster and the odds you would have ended up with a tampo situation on your hands was high. Next time (if there is a next time) you can bring her along on any island hopping trips and know in advance what to expect.


She shows me a photo of her two brothers and two cousins together. One of them is throwing up a gang sign so I ask her about it. Sure, she says, he's in a gang, been a member for years. Pointing to the photo, she lists, 'this one is Crips, this one is Bloods, this one is something else. ' I thought Crips and Bloods were supposed to be enemies, I ask her? She wasn't sure about that – so maybe they are just wannabe gangsters haha.The crips and bloods are real street gangs located thoughout the general Cebu City area. You can see the spray paint markings scrawled on buildings marking territory if you know what to look for in such places as Guadalupe, Banilad, Mandaue and Colon. These kids are not to be messed with and avoided at all costs. You can usually spot the real gang members who can mostly be identified by the brand new baseball hats with straight bills and the sticker still attached. They like to hang out at key intersections with many wannabee members guarding territory. Locally these gangs as know as "fraternities" and while the crips and the bloods are the most well know there are other street gangs around.

One interesting observation. Whenever a guy with limited experience about the Philippines looks at pics online of a girl or family members of the girl making the "gwapa" or "gwapo" sign with there hands they think that person is involved in gangs. LOL. The sign they make is; they form a 'gun' or 'L' shape with there hand and hold it under the chin and smile. This action is meant to frame the face like a picture would and means they think they are good looking or just joking around. I can see how some guys get confused because it does look like a gun or gang sign, but it's just harmless fun.


Still, considering the various inconsistencies to her stories, I decided to move her from being a candidate for long-term support to just paying for this semester in exchange for her time with me. The flowers, the dead uncle, the white lies about DIA and her friend's debut party, it just all seemed a little too strange to me. But, fortunately, I wasn't looking for a wife, so I was willing to overlook these credibility gaps. All in all, I had a great time, and I'm glad it worked out so well.Good report and follow up. You took the advice provided to you by other members and used it to have a good time. You were alert and took note of all the many subtle red flags and you remained calm. I think your situation is a classic example of the girl telling you what you wanted to hear and hiding what really happened.

Sammon
01-17-12, 23:37
Good report.

You got your fun for helping the girl. Probing too much in her life without clear intention of marriage is going over the top. I am sure demands for more book money, class money etc will be coming.

I hope you did put her on the pill or used some protection. Claim of pregnancy is a very common occurance in these situations.

Ofcourse since it is your first meeting she wants to show you she is a good girl and honest. Texting saying she is at the university signing up for classes is not a proof. Only school transcripts is kind of a proof.

Beware that documents can easily be forged or the name changed.

I have supported few girls through college although not all together. MAll had only a few semesters left to graduate. Out of four three did graduate. One got to Dubai and doing well. Other two got jobs but as usual in Phi.

These are contract jobs. Do not know about their current situation. In school they do meet boys.

There is no need to be scared about her brothers being in the gang. Gang or not Phi people can and will cause you harm if you rub them a wrong way.

Aussie Jo
01-18-12, 04:41
Elsewhere in the Philippines forum I recall reading about how the regular successes of the ladies in scoring an overseas marriage makes it worthwhile for the many others to keep in trying in the hope of the successes. The gains are considerable when the 1 in 1, 000 does get out of the country.

In my travels on Tagged I have met Pi ladies in Zurich & Shanghai. These ladies have both been out of Pi for about 15 years and have quite good lives. The ladies in Zurich (oops, I dated both before I knew they knew each other) have clearly made it. I'm Facebook buddies with them. Their other FB buddies back in Philippines must look on at their lives in awe. They have successful Swiss husbands, they live in nice houses, they dress like princesses and they party in some of Switzerland's swankiest hotels. To their old friends back in Philippines it must be quite motivational to keep on meeting foreigners and get a similar life. For my troubles it is nice to know that they still like sex outside of their home life.

The Pi lady in Shanghai keeps in contact and lets me know her travels. She works with an expatriate family and travels the world with them. She is also a FB buddy and sends a great imagine back to internal Pi of the good life that can (and is being) had.

The purpose of this post is just to reinforce the reasons why so many ladies inside Pi are still keen to meet and date foreigners. The possible gains and success stories do happen, do filter home and are motivating the masses.

Interesting, back home in Australia I've had no luck hunting down local Pi talent. Those Aussies must be keeping them satisfied at home.

AJ

Cunning Stunt
01-18-12, 07:55
Just read this profile on DIA. ??? Any ideas? Maybe I should go to Google Translate and look for a gobbledegook option?


I little girl long hair I am wise nor good just energetic and obedient to parents, but what else do I dance I can challenge them hahahah. Never been married and no kid but optimistic about being one and having at least one. Can spend the whole day just at home or an easy walk outside and have a good laugh.

I was Genalyn shovel I like men who accept me and what I understand and I understand she is not leaving and you love me faithfully rude and conventional, but mainly we get married first before make a baby I am sweet and I cannot say I am perfect lover.

But I could be sweet lover.

Fast Buck Artist
01-18-12, 11:48
Just read this profile on DIA. ??? Any ideas? Maybe I should go to Google Translate and look for a gobbledegook option?No comment about the crap in her profile, I'll just say that I like the facial features of girls from Ozamis. They tend to have nice skin, straight nose, sharper face. I don't know why, more spanish heritage in that area?

Mc Don
01-18-12, 13:40
I am glad you had fun. Its easyer this way too, I normally sponsor a semester or year at best, perhaps next time try and get more then 4-5 days or more then one trip if you going to drop that sort of cash either way it seems like you had plenty of fun.

Tally Wacker
01-18-12, 19:37
interesting, back home in australia i've had no luck hunting down local pi talent. those aussies must be keeping them satisfied at home.

aji have an interesting setup with a filipina here in usa. i responded to an ad i saw online for an asian house cleaner. the ad said ok to text. in my text i explained that i needed light cleaning and it would be great to get a massage at home too because i get one weekly. she responded within one hour asking me what type of massage? i responded, just a light massage and it does not have to be professional. she said she was filipina. great! i explained how i love the philippines and the culture and that i have traveled there for work. i texted my photo to her and she responded with her photo. i was surprised that she sent a photo back. she was fucking hot! we exchanged many texts that day. very informal at this point. i told her that i would have the best looking house cleaner in town. too good to be true here in usa. i set it up for her to come over the following morning.

she showed up at my place on time and when she got out of her car i could not believe how beautiful this girl was. i have seen and been with many hot filipinas and she is by far the sexist woman i have seen. she is an 11 no joke. she looks like a model. she is 5' 7', long black hair to her ass and had on tight black stretch pants with a form fitting top and fresh perfume. enhanced boobs too! wtf? i could not believe it. she did not look like a house cleaner. i tried to act professional and not stare at her as i wanted to make her feel comfortable. she got right to cleaning. i usually have to tell a new cleaner what to do. i did not with her. she cleaned the house from top to bottom like it was hers. never had my house cleaned so well.

i was working in my office downstairs and would make an excuse to check on her and get a peek at her. shit! this girl is hot! she would put her body in sexy positions as she cleaned with her ass in the air. it was hard not to lose it. we chatted about my travels to the philippines and i told her about my ex filipina gf. she explained she was married and wanted to clean houses because she was bored at home and wanted some pocket money for herself. her husband does not want her to work and he gives her an allowance.

at the end of the cleaning session i asked her if she could do massage as we did not confirm it over text but she never said no. she became very nervous and paced back and forth saying oh i never do massage. i don't know how. i only do for my husband. she would not look me in the eyes. it was cute seeing her turn into a little teenager. then she said my husband always shower first. i responded, oh ok i shower. she did not say anything so i just ran upstairs and showered quickly. i called her upstairs and laid on the bed with a towel over me. she came in very nervous. i reassured her that it was ok. she started to massage but would not look at my body. it was a huge turn on. she finally relaxed a little and said i will just massage you like i do my husband. ok by me! i talked with her to comfort her as she was still nervous. she got down by my legs and brushed my now hard cock. when she felt it she jumped! she said ok massage done. lol. i tried to nicely have her finish but did not want to scare her. i wanted her to return another time. i'm sure not into going after married women but how could i not be excited with this girl. she is so fucking hot and she obviously likes the attention. even if she was not willing to massage or fool around i wanted to keep her as a cleaner. i told her so. i paid her for the cleaning and an extra $40 for the massage. she would not take the $40 and said she did not finish the massage. i said its ok she can finish next time. she said ok. good sign!

we exchanged a few text messages during the week and she returned the following week to clean. same scenario except she was dressed even sexier. wtf? she had on this thin white see threw t-shirt with a colored bra under. shit! as she was cleaning upstairs she got her shirt wet in the shower and came running down saying she got wet. i suggested she put her jacket on and put her shirt in the dryer. so she did. a little later she was in the kitchen cooking. i arranged her to cook filipino food. i was close to the kitchen so i could talk with her and look at her. at one point she asked me a question. i looked over at her and she had the white t-shirt back on but no bra! wtf? i could see her perfect brown pointy nipples poking out from her see threw shirt. i tried to look at her eyes as i spoke to her. i had an immediate erection. she was kind of trying to hide her nipples but it was obvious that she was getting a kick out of it.

after the cooking i suggested a massage. she did the oh i'm not sure, i only do for my husband thing again and i went off to shower and called her upstairs. this time it was more sensual and after i flipped over she was very nervous and was looking the other direction as she massaged my chest. i was turned on and hard. she is an amazing looking woman! she was getting giggly and nervous touching me. i reassured her. she then said oh no i can't finish. she sat on the bed looking the opposite direction. i took her hand and lead it to my hard cock. she did not resist. when she felt it she jumped with excitement and said oh my its very hard. she attempted to leave the room because she was nervous. i reassured her that it was ok and to relax. she touched my cock a few times and then she just lost it. she jumped on top of me and we started to makeout. wtf? i could not believe this girl was on top of me kissing me. she had on her tight stretch pants and the see threw t-shirt with no bra still. i pulled up her top and kissed her nipples and she was very sensitive and pulled her shirt back down. she would not jack me off so i did it myself while she cuddled next to me with her head on my chest. she even kissed my nipples as i jacked off for her to watch. she said oh its very big and hard. that's all it took and i shot my load so high that some of it got in her long black hair. what a turn on. as i took a shower she straightened up my bed again.

well i have seen her maybe 6 times by now and each time we have become more intimate. we now makeout many times while she is cleaning and she dresses even sexier. the last time she was over we ended the cleaning day with a 2-hour fuck session. she told me that her girlfriend told her that her bf fucked her ass before. i asked if she said it hurt. she said her friend liked it. the house cleaner said she never tried that. i fucked her that day with a finger in her ass and she had like 5 orgasms. i only pay her for the cleaning now because she does not want money for the sex. the house cleaner also said she likes pretty girls. amazing woman. she is young 30's and has the hottest body i have ever seen. i have done things with her that she has not done with her husband. her husband is almost 30 years older than her. he is very wealthy. i'm only the 3rd man she has ever been with. she tells me she likes my big cock and blue eyes. i feel bad that she is married and so does she but the situation continues. i can't wait for cleaning day and i even pick up the house a little before she comes so we have more time at the end. lol.

i hope i did not bore you guys with my long story. i would love to post photos but do not want to make any problems for her. i plan to go back to phil in june and can't wait!

GregLondon
01-18-12, 23:28
Elsewhere in the Philippines forum I recall reading about how the regular successes of the ladies in scoring an overseas marriage makes it worthwhile for the many others to keep in trying in the hope of the successes. The gains are considerable when the 1 in 1, 000 does get out of the country.

In my travels on Tagged I have met Pi ladies in Zurich & Shanghai. These ladies have both been out of Pi for about 15 years and have quite good lives. The ladies in Zurich (oops, I dated both before I knew they knew each other) have clearly made it. I'm Facebook buddies with them. Their other FB buddies back in Philippines must look on at their lives in awe. They have successful Swiss husbands, they live in nice houses, they dress like princesses and they party in some of Switzerland's swankiest hotels. To their old friends back in Philippines it must be quite motivational to keep on meeting foreigners and get a similar life. For my troubles it is nice to know that they still like sex outside of their home life.

The Pi lady in Shanghai keeps in contact and lets me know her travels. She works with an expatriate family and travels the world with them. She is also a FB buddy and sends a great imagine back to internal Pi of the good life that can (and is being) had.

The purpose of this post is just to reinforce the reasons why so many ladies inside Pi are still keen to meet and date foreigners. The possible gains and success stories do happen, do filter home and are motivating the masses.

Interesting, back home in Australia I've had no luck hunting down local Pi talent. Those Aussies must be keeping them satisfied at home.

AJOf the girls I have got to know over the last 3 years say around 15% eventually manage to get a foriegn husband and leave the country. Of course I am only fishing from a pool of say 20% of the girls on DIA / Tagged but my guesstimate that an average girl who goes on DIA / tagged withna more or less sensible picture and attitude has a say 5% chance of getting foreign husband. Of the girls I have met who I would consider as really quality girls I would say they have a 50-75% chance of getting a foriegn husband. With some you know that it is only a matter of time unless they do something stupid like getting pregnant with a Phil BF. The most common cause of a girl's downfall.

Stroker Ace88
01-19-12, 02:11
I have an interesting setup with my Filipina house keeper here in USA. [SNIP]Nice little tale but what does that have to do with 'Chat Rooms & Pen Pals' and finding women online in the Philippines?

Tally Wacker
01-19-12, 02:14
Nice little tale but what does that have to do with 'Chat Rooms & Pen Pals' and finding women online in the Philippines?It's unfortunate that you don't like the story.

Cunning Stunt
01-19-12, 02:21
Thanks for the story, TW. I enjoyed reading it. Wish I had a housecleaner like that.Wish you would get it into your head that 'snip' is not just the cruel cut that the wife pesters you to have. There is no need to quote an entire lengthy report when posting a short 16 word reply. Jeez... Jackson can hardly have a hair left on his head with members like you. And with well over a thousand posts, you can hardly claim that you don't know how...or can you?

Radical Guy
01-19-12, 03:54
Nice little tale but what does that have to do with 'Chat Rooms & Pen Pals' and finding women online in the Philippines?He found her online. That's relevant enough for me! Geez, SA, I'll bet you were the kid at school who always harped on everyone about the "rules"! LOL.

RG

Greek Niko
01-19-12, 04:27
Jackson can hardly have a hair left on his headWHAT! Jackson has hair on his head? Say it aint so members of the Telly Savalas world group.

GregLondon
01-19-12, 04:28
Thought people might be amused by this one: One of my Filipina friends here texted this AM to say she had been given 1000 Ireland Dollars and how much was it worth worth. I said

Ireland doesn't have dollars that she must mean either Euro or maybe US dollar but either way she had a very generous benefactor. On further clarification however it turned out she had been given a 1000 Iranian Rial note, which sadly is worth (assuming you could actually convert) it: 3. 77 PHP You win some you lose some I guess.

Stroker Ace88
01-19-12, 04:32
He found her online. That's relevant enough for me! Geez, SA, I'll bet you were the kid at school who always harped on everyone about the "rules"! LOL.

RGLOL, nope not a hardass at all. It's just basic IE. (Internet Etiquette) or 'netiquette' as it's known now.

Also see CS's post below about more proper use of netiquette. ;)

GregLondon
01-19-12, 04:45
My first day back in Cebu and a bit jetlagged. One girl had seemed extremely keen so I said she could come on over. She was in Carcar and had to wait a couple of hours for her Aunty to return to borrow money for the fare (about 1 hour bus from Cebu). Unlike many Filipnas she made a great effort to text regularly with aprogress report as to where she had got to. I had explained that I was very horny and she had to fully satisfy me etc. When she showed up she was as described in the pics. She had said she was 20 but as is common meant running 20 ie 19. Sadly like many girls here now in the Phils somewhat on the chubby side but it's not too bad when they are young and firm especially as she had generous and firm boobs. Really nice attitude. Aparently on the first foreigner meeting she had as only the second foreigner she had met apparently though she had loads of "chatmates" who never showed up. Her first foreigner meeting hadn't quite gone according to plan. She had ben nervous so had brought along a friend but much to her disappointment the foreigner had ended up fucking her friend not her so that's why she didn't bring her friend this time. However she said if I wanted to try her friend as well that would be no problem and she would bring her next time for me to do them both. We then went through her facebook frineds to see pics of this girl and she suggested 3 or 4 other friends who would be up for it.

I asked if she was hungry and wanted to go to a restaurant but she said she ought to get back home so we settled on a bag of crisps (chips). That's my kind of date LOL

Red Kilt
01-19-12, 05:22
Anyone else noticed that DIA is suddenly inaccessible?

Maybe it has been hacked or something?

I have tried 2 different computers as well as trying to access through Google etc and I am getting an error message.

Seems unusual after around 4 years of accessing it with no problems before.

It might be a temporary glitch.

FruitNinja
01-19-12, 05:25
Anyone else noticed that DIA is suddenly inaccessible?.Same here in Illinois. May have neglected to pay the bills.

Makeupaname
01-19-12, 05:32
Date in asia, its ok from Hong Kong, local time 12:31PM

Red Kilt
01-19-12, 05:56
Anyone else noticed that DIA is suddenly inaccessible?

Maybe it has been hacked or something?

I have tried 2 different computers as well as trying to access through Google etc and I am getting an error message.

Seems unusual after around 4 years of accessing it with no problems before.

It might be a temporary glitch.Thanks to all who contacted me.

SNAFU.

It's back again now. Seems others had the problem too.

As you were. Carry on please. Sorry for the alarm. Maybe it was just the PI, and for 30 minutes only.

Stroker Ace88
01-19-12, 06:00
Anyone else noticed that DIA is suddenly inaccessible?

Maybe it has been hacked or something?

I have tried 2 different computers as well as trying to access through Google etc and I am getting an error message.

Seems unusual after around 4 years of accessing it with no problems before.

It might be a temporary glitch.Red Kilt banned? LOL joke, but would explain your sudden outage.

DIA fine and fully operational from NA.

Red Kilt
01-19-12, 10:03
Red Kilt banned? LOL joke, but would explain your sudden outage.

DIA fine and fully operational from NA.I think it was a Philippines short-term problem.

I had 3 PI-based guys contact me saying they had the same problem, so I was relieved that it wasn't just me or that I hadn't been shafted by some p*ed off woman who didn't like my style LOL.

It was more than just a "site ban". The message was something like "No such address exists" (I cannot remember the exact phrase but it had that meaning).

All is well now. CR & PP thread can resume normal business

Sammon
01-19-12, 16:37
I have an interesting setup with my Filipina house keeper here in USA. I responded to an ad I saw online for an Asian house cleaner. The ad said ok to text. In my text I explained that I needed light cleaning and it would be great to get a massage at home too because I get one weekly. She responded within one hour asking me what type of massage? I responded, just a light massage and it does not have to be professional. She said she was Filipina. Great! I explained how I love the Philippines and the culture and that I have traveled there for work. I texted my photo to her and she responded with her photo. I was surprised that she sent a photo back. She was fucking hot! We exchanged many texts that day. Very informal at this point. I told her that I would have the best looking House Cleaner in town. Too good to be true here in USA. I set it up for her to come over the following morning.

Well I have seen her maybe 6 times by now and each time we have become more intimate. We now makeout many times while she is cleaning and she dresses even sexier. The last time she was over we ended the cleaning day with a 2-hour fuck session. She told me that her girlfriend told her that her bf fucked her ass before. I asked if she said it hurt. She said her friend liked it. The house cleaner said she never tried that. I fucked her that day with a finger in her ass and she had like 5 orgasms. I only pay her for the cleaning now because she does not want money for the sex. The house cleaner also said she likes pretty girls. Amazing woman. She is young 30's and has the hottest body I have ever seen. I have done things with her that she has not done with her husband. Her husband is almost 30 years older than her. He is very wealthy. I'm only the 3rd man she has ever been with. She tells me she likes my big cock and blue eyes. I feel bad that she is married and so does she but the situation continues. I can't wait for cleaning day and I even pick up the house a little before she comes so we have more time at the end. LOL.

I hope I did not bore you guys with my long story. I would love to post photos but do not want to make any problems for her. I plan to go back to Phil in June and can't wait!Be carefull with this set up. USA laws do not allow sexual misconduct with domestic helpers. You are going to loose more than it is worth if she or her husband tries to file a case against you. Meeting socially and having fun is ok.

Another point is there is no way you can deny her request for more money or expensive gifts once you get intimate. I would suggest cut off house cleaning service immediately and just be friends with her. No money should be given for domestic services. Whether it is cash paid with no employer. Employee tax filing or not courts deem it as such. Tell her next time that she need not clean the house because you like her as a friend.

If she insists on cleaning let her do it but you need to find a way to give her money without mentioning she is doing services for you.

First of all I do not believe she is married to a rich husband. No girl will go do cleaning house if it is so. She would rather work as a secretary or something if indeed she looks gorgeous. Phi girls are very tricky. Once they get hooks on you they will manipulate you to her advantage.

This is just a suggestion to advice you to be aware of things.

Radical Guy
01-19-12, 21:51
Be carefull with this set up. USA laws do not allow sexual misconduct with domestic helpers. You are going to loose more than it is worth if she or her husband tries to file a case against you. Meeting socially and having fun is ok.

Another point is there is no way you can deny her request for more money or expensive gifts once you get intimate. I would suggest cut off house cleaning service immediately and just be friends with her. No money should be given for domestic services. Whether it is cash paid with no employer. Employee tax filing or not courts deem it as such. Tell her next time that she need not clean the house because you like her as a friend.

If she insists on cleaning let her do it but you need to find a way to give her money without mentioning she is doing services for you.

First of all I do not believe she is married to a rich husband. No girl will go do cleaning house if it is so. She would rather work as a secretary or something if indeed she looks gorgeous. Phi girls are very tricky. Once they get hooks on you they will manipulate you to her advantage.

This is just a suggestion to advice you to be aware of things.Sammon brings up some good points. I am married to a Filipina, and although I am what might be termed "well to do," I am certainly not "rich." Yet I would never allow my wife to go to strangers' homes alone to clean them or whatever.

You could conceivably end up with the same problem that Dominique Strauss-Kahn was faced with! You may not be subject to criminal prosecution (which requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt), but she might sue you for sexual harassment or another tort along those lines. The nice thing about the Philippines is that such lawsuits are almost nonexistent. Not so, in the US! Suing and getting sued is a great American pastime.

RG

JPF
01-19-12, 22:34
I think it was a Philippines short-term problem.

I had 3 PI-based guys contact me saying they had the same problem, so I was relieved that it wasn't just me or that I hadn't been shafted by some p*ed off woman who didn't like my style LOL.

It was more than just a "site ban". The message was something like "No such address exists" (I cannot remember the exact phrase but it had that meaning).That message implies that your DNS service was out. That is what translates names (e. G dateinasia. Com) to their actual numeric addresses which are used to route the packets. Since you are unfamiliar with this I expect you were using the DNS service provided by your ISP (Internet Service Provider). [Note you can change to a different DNS server if you have a similar problem in the future. Google offers two DNS servers at 8. 8.8. 8 and 8. 8.4. 4. ] Those three other PI-based guys are probably using the same ISP as you.

Wolvenvacht
01-19-12, 22:57
I have an interesting setup with my Filipina house keeper here in USA. (snip)

Well I have seen her maybe 6 times by now and each time we have become more intimate. We now makeout many times while she is cleaning and she dresses even sexier. The last time she was over we ended the cleaning day with a 2-hour fuck session. (snip) It feels totally like a set-up. Things which are too good to be true, probably are.

Chocha Monger
01-20-12, 00:22
Sammon brings up some good points. I am married to a Filipina, and although I am what might be termed "well to do," I am certainly not "rich." Yet I would never allow my wife to go to strangers' homes alone to clean them or whatever.

You could conceivably end up with the same problem that Dominique Strauss-Kahn was faced with! You may not be subject to criminal prosecution (which requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt) , but she might sue you for sexual harassment or another tort along those lines. The nice thing about the Philippines is that such lawsuits are almost nonexistent. Not so, in the US! Suing and getting sued is a great American pastime.

RGThankfully it all happened in his wet dream.

Member #4491
01-20-12, 00:47
TW, great story! I would not stop. Fuck her and film her. You obviously give her something she needs in life. Post some pictures here. You can blank out her face. These things happen all over the world, and only in USA people would advice you to back off due to some legal crap.

Mr Enternational
01-20-12, 01:56
Be carefull with this set up. USA laws do not allow sexual misconduct with domestic helpers. You are going to loose more than it is worth if she or her husband tries to file a case against you. Meeting socially and having fun is ok.

Another point is there is no way you can deny her request for more money or expensive gifts once you get intimate. I would suggest cut off house cleaning service immediately and just be friends with her. No money should be given for domestic services. Whether it is cash paid with no employer. Employee tax filing or not courts deem it as such. Tell her next time that she need not clean the house because you like her as a friend.This matter would not apply in TW's case. His girl is not a regular employee. She is a contractor who only works as per his request. Her well being is not solely dependent on the couple-of-hours-every-so-often work that he provides for her. At any time she can tell him that she will not perform the job any more. At the same time he can tell her that he does not require her services any longer. Likewise, there has already been a pattern established which includes sexual contact. She did not go to the authorities the first time it happened nor the second or subsequent times. Instead, she has returned over and over and been a willful participant in such activities. Hence, she would have neither claim nor grievance against TW.

Hint: What happened with Arnold Schwarzenegger and his maid, who was actually a regular, everyday employee? NOTHING.

Cunning Stunt
01-20-12, 02:16
I tried cut and paste, CS. How is it done. Do you really think Jackson cares about bandwidth? Whenever I see something that is redundant I just skip over it. So do you read everything word for word on here? I don't have time for that. Thanks.OK, see it as simply a matter of basic courtesy to other members so they don't have to navigate through reams of needlessly repeated text.

If you can switch on your computer, I am sure that you know how to highlight selected text (left mouse click and hold, move cursor). Then simply press the space bar and the unwanted text will magically disappear.

I am sure that you got that but in the unlikely event of your IQ quota being less than your preferred rack size, I am willing to repeat.

Cunning Stunt
01-20-12, 02:49
You could conceivably end up with the same problem that Dominique Strauss-Kahn was faced with!Or maybe even the problem that Arnie was faced with:).

Chocha is right ... some of the best male fantasies are constructed around maids and have been for thousands of years.

FreebieFan
01-20-12, 03:59
Yesterday had two strange chats. One was with a lady who has same surname and place as a current gf. The chat was pleasant and as she had previously been a Havana girl we had a pleasant chat about sex. Turns out she's the sister of the current gf. Ho of course found out but she was cool about it. Just a strange co-incidence.

The other chat was even stranger. A 21 year old who is clearly desparate to get married, has been in Manila for 6 months, says she has had 5 dates in past few weeks, and none of them ended in sex. She said she was quite suprised. So was I! Seems like maybe I have to help the poor lass. What are these guys doing. LOL

FreebieFan
01-20-12, 04:07
Or maybe even the problem that Arnie was faced with.

Chocha is right. Some of the best male fantasies are constructed around maids and have been for thousands of years.You are so right. Here was an Indonesian maid I found in my room. LOL

Member #1088
01-20-12, 10:18
I have an interesting setup with my Filipina house keeper here in USA. I responded to an ad I saw online for an Asian house cleaner. The ad said ok to text. .

I hope I did not bore you guys with my long story. I would love to post photos but do not want to make any problems for her. I plan to go back to Phil in June and can't wait!First of all, great story, but you built the beginning but it was disappointing at the end, I expected more details as you got her more intimate every time.

LOL.

Also provide pics or vdo, (WITH FACE COVER, rings, tattoos, chain, etc also cover) would be great to see her body.

If I was you, I would come back and put more meat on the story after you start making out. :P.

Also after you do that, change your city name or put very bogus name and submit to Penthouse :P.

Hahaha.

Good luck my friend, having a pinoy pussy in the USA for a very low cost, you R SO LUCKY. It is my understanding she wants to do it with other woman and you also?

Cunning Stunt
01-20-12, 11:22
You are so right. Here was an Indonesian maid I found in my room. LOLLOL ditto....man after my own heart.

I often get unsolicited text calls from girls who have been passed my number by other girls. Sometimes these conversations can get weirdly surreal and quite erotic and can lead to some great finds. Here is one from about 1 hour ago.

Her: Who this?

Me: Elvis Presley.

Her: Hahahaha really elvis presley?? My ngbisnes card ng m d2 eh (no idea what this means)

Her: No reply??

Me: I’m in Las Vegas..these texts are expensive

Her: Ah hahaha really??your number is from phil ryt is not expensive..u made me laugh hahaha

Me: Hahaha, had u worried for a minute:). Who are u and why u text me?

Her: Someone forward your number here in my fone are you Filipino??sorry if I text you..

Me: Who?..are you young, female and fukable? If not, go away..haha!

Her: I don’t know who..im 24 yrs old what do u mean fuckable??

Me: Lol..do u have a pussy and know how to use it?

Her: Hahaha yes I have and I know how to use it??why u ask?? Don’t worry im openminded.:)

Me: Coz I lurve to lick sweet pinay cooze…want yours licking?

Her: hahahaha I want to taste a foreign dish

Me: You would like my tongue..its 8 inches long. My nickname is chit chat..

Her: Hahahaha u made me laugh yes I really love to lick my pussy while you rub my boobs…;)

Me: Or I could lick yr boobs while I rubbed yr pussy..how does that sound..getting wet?

Her: Yes really getting wet..

Her: Really?? Ur tounge 8inches long ur dick how long??

Me: 12 inches but I don’t use it as a rule.


From here the chat went downhill fast!

Another to add to my potentials list.

Sammon
01-20-12, 17:16
This matter would not apply in TW's case. His girl is not a regular employee. She is a contractor who only works as per his request. Her well being is not solely dependent on the couple-of-hours-every-so-often work that he provides for her. At any time she can tell him that she will not perform the job any more. At the same time he can tell her that he does not require her services any longer. Likewise, there has already been a pattern established which includes sexual contact. She did not go to the authorities the first time it happened nor the second or subsequent times. Instead, she has returned over and over and been a willful participant in such activities. Hence, she would have neither claim nor grievance against TW.

Hint: What happened with Arnold Schwarzenegger and his maid, who was actually a regular, everyday employee? NOTHING.I disagree with you. Hiring a cleaning lady with remuneration (Money) classifies as a hired help. Essentially when a hired help (girl) comes to your house she is under your control. U. S is a litigeous country.

In Case of Schwarzenegger, he is very rich and powerfull. He has been helping the lady and the baby financially for a long time. Having said that if the lady had sued him in the court she would have won.

Most often nothing happens if the parties come to an agreement before the police and courts. I do not believe this story. He is saying she is married to a rich guy. How many rich guy's wives you see working as a maid bored or not? Most often they are shopping or having expensive lunch with friends or taking tennis lessons at the country club. Let alone accepting little money for house cleaning. If as he says this lady is beatifull and bored, she can find companions easily without being a maid. Yes, there are plenty of bored housewives. I have had few relationships. One in perticular was pretty and married to a rich guy. I used to sneak into her house at night when the guy was on business trip parking the car couple of blocks away. She never did any work. Had maid, gardener etc.

It is immaterial if she had been sexually active with him before? If she goes to the police she will say that she did go to his house for cleaning few times and no sexual advances were made before. Even laying a hand on her qualifies as sexual misonduct here in this country. Look but do not touch is the law.

Another problem is the husband might catch her and in order to stay married to him she is forced to claim sexual misconduct.

I would not trust any girl in this situation. It is one thing to meet a legal age girl in the bar and having sex but whole different matter if she is working for you as a contract worker or employee.

Tally Wacker
01-20-12, 20:37
First of all, great story, but you built the beginning but it was disappointing at the end, I expected more details as you got her more intimate every time.

LOL.

Also provide pics or vdo, (WITH FACE COVER, rings, tattoos, chain, etc also cover) would be great to see her body.

If I was you, I would come back and put more meat on the story after you start making out. :P.

Also after you do that, change your city name or put very bogus name and submit to Penthouse.

Hahaha.

Good luck my friend, having a pinoy pussy in the USA for a very low cost, you R SO LUCKY. It is my understanding she wants to do it with other woman and you also?The details in my story are true and I attempted to leave out certain things to protect her and to keep this great situation going as long as possible. I can understand that it's hard to believe her wealthy husband would allow her to work as a house cleaner and that she looks like a Model. She does look like a Model and she told me that she argued with her husband about wanting to clean houses. She messaged me many times that she might not be able to continue. I coached her on what to say to her husband. She also continues to struggle with the fact that she is married. She messaged me 'Is it ok if I only clean and cook from now on? No more babysitting. ' I would reply 'Ok if that's what you want'. She would then show up a few days later to clean house looking and smelling great and we would continue where we left off the previous visit.

I do not have to ask for massage anymore nor do I have to talk her into going up to my bedroom after the cleaning. A few visits ago we were making-out and grinding on the couch and she said 'let's go to your room'. I followed her upstairs with my dick hanging out of my pants. We jumped on the bed and rolled around making-out and fondling each other. I was completely naked but she was hesitant to take all her clothes off. As we played she would get on top of me grinding on my cock as we kissed and I would attempt to suck and play with her nipples. She would get wild and let go for a minute then pull her top down and say ok enough. I respected her and did not push it too much. I want her to feel safe and to keep coming back. I told her we could stop playing around anytime because I don't want to lose her for a cleaning lady plus I like her. She liked what I said and just curled up next to me again.

We rolled around for another 30 min or so then she said ok I can do BJ, I am good at BJ. Wow! I said ok of course. She got down between my legs and started sucking my cock. What a sight. Her pretty face with my hard cock in her mouth was amazing. She is very beautiful. I held her long hair back so I could watch and she would look up at me while she sucked and played. She would stop at times and compare my cock with her husbands. Mine is bigger, harder and has a few other characteristics that she likes. What a turn on!

The last time I jacked off in front of her I shot my cum all over my stomach and chest and she rubbed it in and played with it. A good sign that she might take a cum shot in her mouth. I have found that girls either like cum or don't like. It's hard to talk a girl into that.

I was about to climax and gave her a warning and she continued to suck. I reached down and stroked my cock as she licked and kissed the head. I asked her to take my cum and she said oh it's a lot though. Last time I exploded alot because I was so turned on by her. I said just take some and she nodded ok. She let my cum shoot and then she went down on my cock again and sucked the remaining cum out. Shit! I was in heaven at this point. Then she said oh its more salty than my husbands. LOL. It was quite funny for me to hear that. She then laid down next to me and asked If we could just cuddle another 10 min. I replied ok by me and that she could stay as long as she liked. We talked about a lot of things and she was very open with me. She talks about things that she does not talk with her husband about. I thought that her husband may have an erectile problem or something but that's not the case. They make love daily. She has a large sexual appetite and there are things I give her that she does not get at home. It's obvious what I like about her.

Her long black hair was all over my bedroom again. As I got in the shower she cleaned up the hair and made the bed again. Remember she is the house cleaner. LOL.

I do have photos of her and I have shared them with a few trusted guys on this site but I will not post them as I want to protect her privacy. I know there are guys here that think my story is a fantasy and I'm not going to attempt to convince them otherwise. I could not hold this story in and just wanted to share my experience. I'm an average looking white guy, tall with blue eyes and a little overweight. I am amazed that a woman that looks so beautiful is just as excited over me. What a confidence booster.

Cunning Stunt
01-21-12, 02:44
Highlight selected text (left mouse click and hold, move cursor). Then simply press the space bar and the unwanted text will magically disappear.

Magic! Thanks. Now if I can only learn how to post photos again.Don't snip the QUOTE markers (in brackets) at the head and foot of each piece of quoted text otherwise it won't wrap.

For photo resizing, check out the page at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_imageinstructions.

You will have to cut and paste the above url as a new tab, as for some reason it won't work as a link. If this confuses you check on the ISG home page and look down the left hand column for photo resizing instructions.

Tally Wacker
01-21-12, 03:10
If this confuses you check on the ISG home page and look down the left hand column for photo resizing instructions.DCups maybe your lack of computer skills is a result of all those big boobs that have been knocking you in the head while your fucking. Its possible that you have had numerous concussions that you are not aware of.

D Cups
01-21-12, 14:57
It's entirely possible, Tally. There are all kinds of maladies connected to this addiction for giant boobs (car accidents and wallet withdrawals top the list). But why did God invent them if He didn't want us to find, fondle and f-k them? Guys, there are some big boobs near you just waiting to be grabbed!


DCups maybe your lack of computer skills is a result of all those big boobs that have been knocking you in the head while your fucking. Its possible that you have had numerous concussions that you are not aware of.

D Cups
01-21-12, 15:12
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1239648]/QUOTE]OK, I'll try, CS. I really am a dummy when it comes to this stuff. I need a big-boobed technician at my house to do it for me. And then take care of business. Geez that's what we need to save the US. Economy: geek squads featuring busty babes who fix our computers and then deliver blow jobs.

Cunning Stunt
01-22-12, 03:15
This girl is upfront in describing herself as pretty in her handle and her profile. Mmmm.... I guess it's true what they say about beauty being in the eye of the beholder but in this case I think the beholder was carrying a white stick!

Punter 127
01-22-12, 03:34
Now if I can only learn how to post photos again.Maybe this will help.

Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_imageinstructions)

FruitNinja
01-22-12, 05:15
This girl is upfront in describing herself as pretty in her handle and her profile. Mmmm. I guess it's true what they say about beauty being in the eye of the beholder but in this case I think the beholder was carrying a white stick!OUCH! You didn't, did you? . I was negotiating with a young latina here and it was all looking good till I finally asker her her weight. 185lbs at 5'5" That's not average. Well maybe in this country.

On another note: Newbie here. Whats with the chicks at DIA? Legit?

Tally Wacker
01-22-12, 06:41
This girl is upfront in describing herself as pretty in her handle and her profile. Mmmm. I guess it's true what they say about beauty being in the eye of the beholder but in this case I think the beholder was carrying a white stick!Thats cold shit CS.

Frenzy3
01-22-12, 08:24
This girl is upfront in describing herself as pretty in her handle and her profile. Mmmm. I guess it's true what they say about beauty being in the eye of the beholder but in this case I think the beholder was carrying a white stick!She is pretty disgusting

Cunning Stunt
01-22-12, 16:51
OUCH! You didn't, did you? .Nope but I've worked out that it would be the only conceivable useful purpose for the brown paper bags that SM and Pure Gold supermarkets have recently introduced in The Philippines. They sure are no fucking use for groceries but are the perfect size for preventing Medusa from turning one to quivering, flaccid jelly.

Mind you this lady would definitely have to be a double bagger, with the second bag used as insurance just in case, whilst shagging her, the first bag split.

WestCoast1
01-22-12, 17:09
On another note: Newbie here. Whats with the chicks at DIA? Legit?What do you mean by 'legit'?

Red Kilt
01-23-12, 11:13
Check out ladyara on DIA.

Very perplexing narrative. Rambling and random.

No reference made to being anything other than a woman, but hey! The pic is a major concern.

The final few words don't gel with the rest of it. She/He wants someone "Hot and Wild".

No competition from me for anybody who wishes to pursue.

FruitNinja
01-23-12, 14:40
What do you mean by 'legit'?I was chatting up a few of the women. Seem very eager to meet. Do they actually follow through? I also notice that a few reply at 4am their time. I'm guessing they are working girls?

FruitNinja
01-23-12, 14:44
Nope but I've worked out that it would be the only conceivable useful purpose for the brown paper bags that SM and Pure Gold supermarkets have recently introduced in The Philippines. They sure are no fucking use for groceries but are the perfect size for preventing Medusa from turning one to quivering, flaccid jelly.

Mind you this lady would definitely have to be a double bagger, with the second bag used as insurance just in case, whilst shagging her, the first bag split.I guess no family tells their kid they are ugly. I think you should have at least given her half a chance. She might have been a real charmer.

GregLondon
01-24-12, 02:29
On another note: Newbie here. Whats with the chicks at DIA? Legit?It's a lucky dip.

There is a wide range of girls and LBs on DIA. A proportion are genuine scammers (ie sob stories designed to get guys to send them money for no returned favour.) Others are amateur web cam girls looking to sell web cam shows. Others are looking for short term tricks. Probably the majority are ideally hoping to find a long term partner who will marry and / or support them. A substantial proportion of this group would potentially be up fro shorter term encounters generally with some financial compensation if she knows there is no potential for a long term payoff through marriage.

If you getto Phils DIA contacts can be very rewarding but anticipate a wheat from chaff problem whereby maybe 20% turn out to be great encounters with others at various levels of disappointmnet depending what your expectations are. It's certainly a time consuming option unless you strike it lucky and get the more sensible ones at an early stage.

WestCoast1
01-24-12, 04:14
I was chatting up a few of the women. Seem very eager to meet. Do they actually follow through? I also notice that a few reply at 4am their time. I'm guessing they are working girls?Many will follow thru and meet. But have a list of such phone numbers in your pocket for each city you visit. A good number are desirous to meet, but once in your presence, even if she agreed to go right to your hotel previously in chat, she might just suck you dry for a coffee and then take a walk. There is no rhyme or reason to this behavior. The very first girl you meet might go bang your brains out, and the next 5 might walk.

Girls chatting at 4am local time are either bargirls getting off work, or up-all-night beggars looking to score some Western Union.

Cunning Stunt
01-24-12, 05:17
No reference made to being anything other than a woman, but hey! The pic is a major concern.Yeah, I've got the same conundrum. Was all ready to arrange a 3sum with these lovelies but something just doesn't feel right.

Can't quite put my finger on it!

Hairy Wonder
01-24-12, 06:00
I am married to a Filipina, and although I am what might be termed "well to do," I am certainly not "rich." Yet I would never allow my wife to go to strangers' homes alone to clean them or whatever.

RGEspecially not with guys like Tally Wacker, or the rest of us mongers on her willing to shag something that is being flaunted in front of us! LOL.

FruitNinja
01-24-12, 07:06
Yeah, I've got the same conundrum. Was all ready to arrange a 3sum with these lovelies but something just doesn't feel right.

Can't quite put my finger on it!And I thought global warming was all I had to worry about.

Stroker Ace88
01-24-12, 07:08
Yeah, I've got the same conundrum. Was all ready to arrange a 3sum with these lovelies but something just doesn't feel right.

Can't quite put my finger on it!Hoi! Hilarious but Major Major scary. Where's Josephine when we need her? LMAO. :D

Sammon
01-24-12, 18:03
I was chatting up a few of the women. Seem very eager to meet. Do they actually follow through? I also notice that a few reply at 4am their time. I'm guessing they are working girls?It is big business for Internet Cafe in Phi. Almost all of them are open 24 hours even in smaller places. Most of these girls do not have a regular job and are easily bored. So if they find a chatting man who is interested, they will go to internet cafe at all times of the night if it is walking distance from their home. They all know what time it is in western countries. Few have PC in their home which is bought from the money previous foreigner bf gave them.

If the girl is in Manila, AC or Cebu chatting early in the morning may suggest they are bargirls.

If you make the trip closer to their home ofcourse they will meet them. But going to meet them draws her relatives who come to meet you as well. I like to meet them away from their home area so that they stay with me in my hotel. None have refused to have sex with me. Ofcourse in order for her to come and meet you, you need send her money for travel expenses. I send just enough money for travel and promise to take care of her after meeting.

Only in one case after I sent money the girl did not show up. Her excuse was she is on mens. Mens or not if the girl does not show up I refuse to give them a seond chance. Nowadays I buy the airline ticket and just send her little money for the expenses. In case of ferry travel I have no choice but to send enough money for one way ferry ticket + some extra for food.

The girls will know that if they show up they will get presents as well as some more money.

Frenzy3
01-24-12, 20:29
Sammon? You buy airline tickets? It cheaper to just pay a bar fine. No wonder I hear about bar girls flying to Manila I always think wow where they getting money like that to fly.

Still to each thier own I like to pay 500-1000 for pussy.

Member #4351
01-24-12, 20:57
You buy airline tickets?I have done the same. Cebu Pacific tickets are really cheap, and sometimes its worth it to bring in a relatively unspoiled girl without attitude from the provinces. They can't turn the tickets into cash, so that risk is removed. But its just MHO.

Sammon
01-24-12, 23:41
Sammon? You buy airline tickets? It cheaper to just pay a bar fine. No wonder I hear about bar girls flying to Manila I always think wow where they getting money like that to fly.

Still to each thier own I like to pay 500-1000 for pussy.None of them are bargirls. They are from the provinces. There is a world of difference being with a bargirl and being with province girls. Nowadays I prefer normal girls to stay with me so much so that I completely avoid going to AC. Even when I am in Manila I have couple of normal girls who stay with me. Sometimes after dinner I tell them I need to do some work on the internet and will be back in a couple of hours. During that time I check out MBC and also EDSA. It is fun to have a couple of drinks and check out. Only one time I met this real pretty girl in MBC and took her to Amazonia upstairs and had fun for couple of hours. She was really good but tried to go through my pant pockets when I was in the shower. I could see her through the bathroom door. Bathrooms are very small there. Immediately I came out and she did not have enough time to steal. We were ready to leave anyway. Since I carry only enough local peso for the night there was nothing of value she could get at. Imagine if I had taken her LT? Although most of my valuables are locked up in safe deposit box there would be something of value in the room.

Like David said airfares are cheaper courtesy of Cebu Pacific. If the girl stays with you atleast 4-5 nights it is cheaper than paying a bargirl / night. Besides you get sex anytime you want.

Pinaypounder
01-25-12, 00:14
Hi guys here is one for a chuckle.

Jewel Cruz: Honest for you babe I am student before 2nd year college science computer but I'm stop because I don't have suport my study thats why I'm stop my mother hard working before in my province I have 1brother but he died 1years ago and my father he died 2year ago,

JJ: wow bad lluck.

JJ: so what is your job now.

Jewel Cruz: I have a part time working before sale lady to suport my self and my mother but I'm so sad because the company close thats why I don't have working and still searching

JJ: Good luck.

JJ: I am sure you can do it.

Jewel Cruz: yeah and I keep promise for me I never give up because I kniow my self I have a searching a good work for me.

I love fucking with these girls, I don't lie, that would be wrong I test them!

PP

Stroker Ace88
01-25-12, 01:29
Hi guys here is one for a chuckle.

Jewel Cruz: Honest for you babe I am student before 2nd year college science computer but I'm stop because I don't have suport my study thats why I'm stop my mother hard working before in my province I have 1brother but he died 1years ago and my father he died 2year ago, [SNIP]

Jewel Cruz: I have a part time working before sale lady to suport my self and my mother but I'm so sad because the company close thats why I don't have working and still searching [SNIP]

Jewel Cruz: yeah and I keep promise for me I never give up because I kniow my self I have a searching a good work for me.

I love fucking with these girls, I don't lie, that would be wrong I test them!So whats the problem? She sounds like a normal woman in the Philippines. Her description sounds very plausible. Close family members dying younger or being severely injured from traffic or work related accidents are common. Loss of job or failure to find work is a real issue in the Philippines, for every job opening there are 20+ candidates hoping to get the job. From what you posted she did not come right out and ask for money or support and you did not catch her in a lie so why the negative attitude towards her?

It's posts such as this one and from guys who visit the Philippines and proudly proclaim on the board they "had four freebies in five nights" (and give the girls no money) that are definitely "cringe worthy" as coined by another senior member.

If you chat with a woman in the Philippines and she tells you she has no job, no money to continue her studies, her dad and brother died and this gives you a chuckle, then you better take a step back and look at yourself in the mirror. If you know for a fact she is a liar or tries to ask you for money the first time you chat then the situation is different.

I have been using the Asian dating websites since 2002 and have only encountered a few dozen or so hardcore gold digger scammers. It's not unusual after several weeks of getting to know each other on ym that some women will ask for help if a sudden emergency comes up or tuition is due. It's normal for a woman to ask for help from close family members in the Philippines and if she asks you for money she feels either she has no choice or feels close enough to you to reveal her situation. I do however as a hard rule decline any such request for money before meeting.

Frenzy3
01-25-12, 03:11
None of them are bargirls. They are from the provinces. There is a world of difference being with a bargirl and being with province girls. Nowadays I prefer normal girls to stay with me so much so that I completely avoid going to AC. Even when I am in Manila I have couple of normal girls who stay with me. Sometimes after dinner I tell them I need to do some work on the internet and will be back in a couple of hours. During that time I check out MBC and also EDSA. It is fun to have a couple of drinks and check out. Only one time I met this real pretty girl in MBC and took her to Amazonia upstairs and had fun for couple of hours. She was really good but tried to go through my pant pockets when I was in the shower. I could see her through the bathroom door. Bathrooms are very small there. Immediately I came out and she did not have enough time to steal. We were ready to leave anyway. Since I carry only enough local peso for the night there was nothing of value she could get at. Imagine if I had taken her LT? Although most of my valuables are locked up in safe deposit box there would be something of value in the room.

Like David said airfares are cheaper courtesy of Cebu Pacific. If the girl stays with you atleast 4-5 nights it is cheaper than paying a bargirl / night. Besides you get sex anytime you want.My knowledge of "province girls" or any that are on line is most are just freelancers like the MBC girls, to be able to pay 20 peso an hour to be online some one is paying that girl, so yes she may not be getting as many clients as as girl in the city but she is a P4P, so you are just as likely to meet a bad apple on line. The few "good to marry ones" I have known about are virgins or near virgins and say they are not that type of girl.

Lying to them about what you are doing is not a good idea as the longer you keep seeing them the more they hope you will marry them. Locals families do get involved is such matters.

Mr Enternational
01-25-12, 07:55
My knowledge of "province girls" or any that are on line is most are just freelancers like the MBC girls, to be able to pay 20 peso an hour to be online some one is paying that girl, so yes she may not be getting as many clients as as girl in the city but she is a P4P, so you are just as likely to meet a bad apple on line. The few "good to marry ones" I have known about are virgins or near virgins and say they are not that type of girl.I'm by no means a PI expert so I would like to ask: To one who has the means to travel to PI and was looking to get married and settle down why would a province girl be considered "good to marry?" Aren't these the least educated people in the country? I guess it would not matter if one's criteria for choosing a mate did not consider the intelligence of their future spouse.

AnonJohn
01-25-12, 08:55
. Snip great post.

I hope I did not bore you guys with my long story. I would love to post photos but do not want to make any problems for her. I plan to go back to Phil in June and can't wait!Are you kidding, that was the best f# read on here in some time. Someone up there likes you.

Frenzy3
01-25-12, 08:58
I'm by no means a PI expert so I would like to ask: To one who has the means to travel to PI and was looking to get married and settle down why would a province girl be considered "good to marry?" Aren't these the least educated people in the country? I guess it would not matter if one's criteria for choosing a mate did not consider the intelligence of their future spouse.Education is not linked to intelligence, and alot of province girls looking to marry are educated, that is why they can pay to get online, hence they are less likely to freelance and more likely want to marry, so meeting girls like that and lying to them just to get sex is pretty low. Not to mention could be dangerous to your health if the family find out about the lies.

Red Kilt
01-25-12, 09:33
Education is not linked to intelligence, and alot of province girls looking to marry are educated, that is why they can pay to get online, hence they are less likely to freelance and more likely want to marry, so meeting girls like that and lying to them just to get sex is pretty low. Not to mention could be dangerous to your health if the family find out about the lies.I think you are mixing up a few different concepts here Frenzy (with all due respect).

Being able to afford to go online doesn't necessarily correlate with being educated or being intelligent. No doubt there are many uneducated and quite dopey girls with big boobs in AC, for example, who have heaps of barfine cash.

Many provincial girls are no doubt "intelligent" but are not in any sense "educated" in the sense of being schooled. They lack opportunity, much as my parents' generation did in Australia during the war and post-war. My parents were not "educated" but they sure were smart, diligent and, ultimately, successful through hard work and innate intelligence. It might be feasible to find a provincial girl like this.

To answer Mr E: It all comes down to what criteria that you are using to choose a long-term partner (wife?) and whether intelligence linked with education are factors.

If you want a genuine soul mate who can match wits with you, discuss world politics or world geography, question you about the latest book you are reading, hold an analytical discussion with you about the merits of a recent film that you both saw, be a worthy hostess at a dinner party you might hold for friends, be a bright and witty companion for you at a friend's dinner party, then maybe a provincial girl Is not for you.

If you can disregard her love for telenovelas, mindless game shows on afternoon or evening TV, texting, always calling someone in her family and just want her for her genuine warmth and caring towards you and, of course, a worthy lover in the bed, then maybe there is a provincial Girl waiting for you.

There are of course, all manner of combinations in between, and I know many educated girls who fit the second category that I described above, but I belive my broad generalization is not far off the mark.

Sid70
01-25-12, 11:46
Plan to visit cebu soon and got already tons of contacts of cebu girls from several sites. Here are two of them. Enjoy it.

GoodEnough
01-25-12, 13:22
As I usually do, I agree with RK's articulate and wholly accurate assessment of the general types of relationships associated with the geographical origins of potential partners. However, I think it's also important to be realistic about the types of relationships that are possible here (in general) , and it's equally important for those coming here for the first time to develop realistic expectaions about the range of feasible options. RK's post intimates a deep understanding of the country, which is partially a product of his having lived here for many years (coupled with intelligence and analytical capability) , and that breadth of knowledge is not typically available to a newcomer.

My direct experience and observations accumulated over a shorter period than that of RK's suggest that all relationships are ultimately conditioned partially by some combination of the culture, education and raw intelligence of both parties, and are ultimately circumscribed by these factors as well. Thus, it's highly unlikely that any well educated, reasonably intelligent Westerner will find someone who shares his knowledge of books, art, music, theater, or other aspects of the corpus of Western culture. Universities here do an extremely poor job of educating their students in what we would define as the "liberal arts." Outside of perhaps the top four or give universities in the country, intellectual inquisitiveness, analytic capablity and independent thought are simply not highly valued by a culture that stresses conformity, anonymity and passivity. I'm not arguing that Filipinas cannot be as intelligent as anyone from the West, but the opportunities to refine, direct and nurture intelligence are far more limited here.

What you will find, if you're lucky, are intelligent, warm, compassionate women who are willing to learn from you, and willing to teach you about the attributes of Philippine culture that are either unknown, or lost in the mists of history in the West: the totality of caring for another; the love of family; the genorosity of spirit; the ability to cope successfully with adversity without succombing to it are hallmarks of a society that many of us feel more than compensates for the deficits mentioned above. Thus, the lady's contribution to the relationship will be equal to or greater than the man's, but qualitatively different. I would argue that these qualities can be found in women from all over the country, including the major metropolitan areas, but are more likely to be found in provincial women who have not developed the thin but hard patina of ersatz sophistication which is often no more than an inexpert mimicing of Western behavior.

GE

Sammon
01-25-12, 15:54
Having sponsored few girls, education in Phi is not the same as western countries. It is more like get a degree whether you studied or not. Sometimes I test these girls when they are with me. One girl took a degree course in computers. She could not even do a resume on MSW. But she has a degree. She did admit that computers in her school are not advanced or something like that.

Another important factor is the girl is not focused in studying and learning. Other girls I sponsored have studied in areas like HRM and accounting and know their subject.

Electricity is not constant for them to study at night. If there is a storm no electricity for more than a few days.

Now the question of marrying? If you want a nice girl to be your wife there are many. Will they make a perfect hostess and hold intelligent conversation in a party with your friends? Hard to say. Having said that many people here in USA are happily married to Phi girls. They all adopt to western ways and learn the process sooner or later. At the same time you need to be patient. There will always be cultural and point of view difference.

Older girls in big cities are educated and hold good jobs but most of them already have children. Province girls tend to be naieve and pleasant. Will they be change once they arrive in your country? It is a open question.

Chocha Monger
01-25-12, 17:23
some mongers claim they want a woman who can challenge them intellectually and engage them in academic discourse. in reality nothing could be further from the truth. mongers are not in poorest nations of southeast asia looking for a wife who can debate the finer points of a piece composed by beethoven vs. one by paganini. such a woman would terrify the average monger because she would be able to reason that she does not have to put up with his shit starting with his appetite for fucking hoes and giving her indirect exposure to ho diseases. she is likely to be very ambitious, independent, opinionated, and have her own terms for establishing a relationship. any potential husband would have to measure up to her requirements as she would be unlikely to settle for the flotsam from the shipwreck of western male society that typically washes ashore in the philippines.

once you peel away the superficial layer of the filipina bride seeker you'll often find a man broken and intimidated by western women his equal or superior. what he wants what he really and desperately wants is someone who will put up with his mongering and other vices, someone who will not question his often questionable decisions and actions in life. he wants someone who gives him unconditional love and loyalty without demanding equality in the relationship. after all, how many mongers would accept their wife's right to go off on her own on a mongering trip to ride some big rental dick in kenya?

Asian Rain
01-25-12, 18:06
she would be unlikely to settle for the flotsam from the shipwreck of Western male society that typically washes ashore in the Philippines.Good one CM. The "flotsam" touch had me spitting dalandan soda out my nose.

Just tonight I was standing in the McDo line behind exactly one such couple. He was a white geezer and she was a circa 20yo SYT. He was making some ruckus, gruffly saying "NO" every few seconds. After a minute of this he threw down some money, said a determined finalistic NO and huffed off to sit down while his squeeze waited at the counter. As their order was filled, I discovered what the big deal. He didn't want the rice pack with his chicken and rice combo. When the attendant put the rice pack into the order, his squeeze handed it back to the McDo staff and said dutifully "he don't want".

Back to the thread subject, I have been working the DIA circuit on my last few visits. Will write a detailed report when I cross 10 hook-ups, so my report will hopefully be more representative. Being more than halfway there, I can confidently say that it is possible to hook up with pussy for short time fun without any pretense. But is has become obvious to me on my current sampling that nobody should judge the DIA experience based on one encounter.

This girl was tonight's tasty morsel. A 23yo college student. Definitely on the "super happy side" of the DIA spectrum in terms of session experience. Everything went like a swiss watch. She never asked about money either before or after the session. It almost brought a tear to my eye. She got p1500 for study and taxi money. She actually came with a friend who was even cuter. In the queue for a future hook-up. Wish the DIA talents could ALL be like this (but I assure you they are not). More later. Enjoy DIA, AsianRain

Frenzy3
01-25-12, 19:25
RK you are making the same mistake as mr E does not matter where the girl grew up it all depends on the wealth of her family if they pay for her education. That the point I was making. Then I expanded it to why a girl from the Provence would be online less likely to be looking for p4p.

GE that is why us flotsam love pinay.

CM why I forgot why I unblocked you but it always good to read your self biography you know every inch of your self. Do not change it helps us to know how low you can go and still breath I hope find some money to buy the medicine soon. Wanking won't make you blind so you will still be posting until you can not pay your Internet bill.

Sammon nice work if you are helping those province girls get PI education. I do the same but hope to keep mine until they get old.

X Man
01-26-12, 12:37
no snipping of this post. it might not provide any realistic advice, but it is fkg hilarious. and it might be hitting a bit too close to home for a few poeple, including me.


some mongers claim they want a woman who can challenge them intellectually and engage them in academic discourse. in reality nothing could be further from the truth. mongers are not in poorest nations of southeast asia looking for a wife who can debate the finer points of a piece composed by beethoven vs. one by paganini. such a woman would terrify the average monger because she would be able to reason that she does not have to put up with his shit starting with his appetite for fucking hoes and giving her indirect exposure to ho diseases. she is likely to be very ambitious, independent, opinionated, and have her own terms for establishing a relationship. any potential husband would have to measure up to her requirements as she would be unlikely to settle for the flotsam from the shipwreck of western male society that typically washes ashore in the philippines.

once you peel away the superficial layer of the filipina bride seeker you'll often find a man broken and intimidated by western women his equal or superior. what he wants what he really and desperately wants is someone who will put up with his mongering and other vices, someone who will not question his often questionable decisions and actions in life. he wants someone who gives him unconditional love and loyalty without demanding equality in the relationship. after all, how many mongers would accept their wife's right to go off on her own on a mongering trip to ride some big rental dick in kenya?

Sid70
01-27-12, 00:14
Had a funny but also meaningful chat with some girl from DIA / Pina today.

She: hell dear how are you?

Me: I'm doing fine.

She: I'm not fine my dear. I'm having a problem.

Me: what kind of problem.

She: because suppose to be today is the payment of the room that we rented here in cebu but father did not sent money us for the payment

Me: ok. I'm sure he wll send.

She: at this time he can't. I don't know what I can do.

Me: borrow some money from friends.

She: no friends would let me borrow because I don't have work and also father cannot loan because he have no source of income yet.

Me: do you have some other ideas how you can solve your problem?

She: I rally have no clue.

Me: do you expect something from me?

She: its up to you. But I would like to share my problems.

Me: sorry I don't send money to somebody I never met in real before.

She: I understand my dear.

Me: maybe you can get some money when you sell something?

She: I will not sell my body on cheap rates.

Me: I thought rather on eletronic devices like your laptop or a CP. (just was wondering how she will react)

She: I will not sell my laptop.

Me: was just an idea dear.

She: thanks.

She: something is not nice. So it made m change.

Me: change what.

She: when its hard and something you will hard to get also

Me: aha (thought she start to talk about my "hard one". Hahaha)

She: it means you have to be nice with me.

Me: you think I'm not nice?

She: I think so. Yor personality did not pass. Maybe I won't meet you. I change my mind. I found out your hard. (yes, my dick sometimes. Hahaha)

Me: ok and?

She: now I did not find you nic iwth me but still I can CHANGE MY MIND.

She: I will decide tomorrow if still will not be possible to meet you.

She: IF THERE IS STILL NO ACTION NTIL TOMORROW I WILL DECIDE NOT TO MEET YOU ANBYMORE.

Me: what kind of action?

She: no need to tell.

Me: how much you want?

She: 5, 000.

Me:.) nice try.

She: its not funny.

Me: ok, brb. Will go WU. Wait me please.

I went brew a fresh italian coffee and after that I went take a shower. After 24min I replied.

Me: back.

She: welcome back

She: thank you very much my dear.

After 3 more minutes I went offline. I guess that she is still waiting for the money. 555. Love the Philippines.

Cunning Stunt
01-27-12, 03:32
No snipping of this post. It might not provide any realistic advice, but it is fkg hilarious. And it might be hitting a bit too close to home for a few poeple, including me.'O would some power the gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us.' Robert Burns

PolyOrchid
01-27-12, 08:26
What a brilliant analysis of Filipina / Kano relationships, GE. And might I add, you have one of the most wonderful and beautiful of Pinays for your fair partner.

Jon von Neumann
01-28-12, 09:12
This dude did a Viagra ad when this was not a very popular thing to do. He did a Pepsi ad later to poke fun at the blue pill ad. Classy. I thought the dude was dead; but, surprise, surprise, he is not. Long live Bob and folks like him.

A few weeks ago I posted an expose about a Filipina DIA minx I was chatting with online that I suspected was a well seasoned con artist Well, not too surprising she turned out to be one. A

few days after my post, she declared to me during one of our chats that she needed money to support her newborn and her parents in the province caring for him (the newborn). She has an option from her aunt to travel to UK to be a nanny for a year. Me? I didn't bite. I told her to think more long-term. It's better to learn how to fish than to get a charbrioled fish dinner in front of you. I recommended that she furthers her education and to find a deserving husband at the same time (pethaps me). But she said that she understood. However later she was back on chat with some other dude.

Although she would work on our next get together to make sure the girl stays up with me, she didn't follow through..Thete is not one thing from her. She went cold. No chat, no phone conversations. Nothing.

LIve and let live.

Thanks,

Jon von Neumann (JVM)

Cheapy
01-28-12, 18:37
This dude did a Viagra ad when this was not a very popular thing to do. He did a Pepsi ad later to poke fun at the blue pill ad. Classy. I thought the dude was dead; but, surprise, surprise, he is not. Long live Bob and folks like him.

A few weeks ago I posted an expose about a Filipina DIA minx I was chatting with online that I suspected was a well seasoned con artist Well, not too surprising she turned out to be one. A

Few days after my post, she declared to me during one of our chats that she needed money to support her newborn and her parents in the province caring for him (the newborn). She has an option from her aunt to travel to UK to be a nanny for a year. Me? I didn't bite. I told her to think more long-term. It's better to learn how to fish than to get a charbrioled fish dinner in front of you. I recommended that she furthers her education and to find a deserving husband at the same time (pethaps me). But she said that she understood. However later she was back on chat with some other dude.

Although she would work on our next get together to make sure the girl stays up with me, she didn't follow through. Thete is not one thing from her. She went cold. No chat, no phone conversations. Nothing.

LIve and let live.

Thanks,

Jon von Neumann (JVM) I just had a similar experience with a (low milage) 19 yr. Old Pinay. She was my live-in GF for 6 weeks and the sweet guy that I am, I really wanted to help her "learn how to fish". She did a budget for all the paperwork required to get a job in Phils plus she was smart and well-spoken. I forked over the cash and continued emails / phone calls after returning home.

Sure enough, she caught another "BF fish" within 3/4 weeks. It's ok, she'll email me in a few months asking me when I'll be back there. LOL. Life is a journey.

FruitNinja
01-28-12, 20:02
It is big business for Internet Cafe in Phi. Almost all of them are open 24 hours even in smaller places. Most of these girls do not have a regular job and are easily bored. So if they find a chatting man who is interested, they will go to internet cafe at all times of the night if it is walking distance from their home. They all know what time it is in western countries. Few have PC in their home which is bought from the money previous foreigner bf gave them.

If the girl is in Manila, AC or Cebu chatting early in the morning may suggest they are bargirls.

If you make the trip closer to their home ofcourse they will meet them. But going to meet them draws her relatives who come to meet you as well. I like to meet them away from their home area so that they stay with me in my hotel. None have refused to have sex with me. Ofcourse in order for her to come and meet you, you need send her money for travel expenses. I send just enough money for travel and promise to take care of her after meeting.

Only in one case after I sent money the girl did not show up. Her excuse was she is on mens. Mens or not if the girl does not show up I refuse to give them a seond chance. Nowadays I buy the airline ticket and just send her little money for the expenses. In case of ferry travel I have no choice but to send enough money for one way ferry ticket + some extra for food.

The girls will know that if they show up they will get presents as well as some more money.This seems like a plausible way to do it. Although I have mongered most my life I do prefer GFE. USed to be able to get that in Cuba. How old are you and what is the average age of some of these girls?

GoodEnough
01-28-12, 22:53
What a brilliant analysis of Filipina / Kano relationships, GE. And might I add, you have one of the most wonderful and beautiful of Pinays for your fair partner.Thanks for the kind words. I do strongly agree with the last sentence of your comment. She is a lovely lady and one of the very best.

Aussie Jo
01-29-12, 03:14
Wow, Facebook reveals so much more about some of our dates that Tagged or the ladies will ever tell.

One of the ladies that I met on my last visit was really very clingy. She is hot and very keen.

Anyway, I fed her email addy into Facebook and found her profile. But we were grating a little so I didn't add her as a friend but I did look at her profile (secured) and that of her sister.

As it turned out her sister was a much less 'secure' FB user and had a very comprehensive profile, even updating the family section. From her sisters profile I could see that the parents were both on FB but not very active. I could also see that my honey was listed as a sibling along with two female and male siblings. So the family has parents, plus four daughters and one boy. So far, of the daughters, two are already married to foreigners, two living in USA, one in Boston, one in California.

I am way out of my league with this girl, she knows exactly how to make a foreign man happy, how to pick one and how to get a good life. She has seen two of her sisters do it already, she just has to follow the steps. She is quite a nice lady, very enthusiastic and caring. I guess our grating is that I'm not looking for a lady in the same way she is hoping.

So, if you have the time, I do suggest some Facebook research will go a long way. And if you can't find their address in FB, asl for their FB address as the email address they use may be different.

Aussie Jo.

ElRayo55
01-29-12, 06:16
Sammon? You buy airline tickets? It cheaper to just pay a bar fine. No wonder I hear about bar girls flying to Manila I always think wow where they getting money like that to fly.

Still to each thier own I like to pay 500-1000 for pussy.M,

I just got back from Manila. Met a girl on one of the cam sites. Built up friendship for several months Would occasionally take her private but I never asked her to do anything. We just chatted. Anyway I tell her I will be in m Manila and would she like to join me for a brief vacation in nice hotel. She accepts I send her the Cebu Pacific info of her ticket and sure enough meet her at airport.

She was from province. I hit the jackpot! The best lover in many years. Absolutely great in bed. Couldn't have have asked for a better lover Wowo! Yes I took her shopping for some personal items but she never went overboard or asked for something very expensive. In fact she never asked I always asked what she needed. Followed me and never asked any questions. Once we got back to the room it was on wowowow.

Before she arrived I went to MBC to check out the scene. Saw a young pretty bunny we chatted and she quoted me 2000 for short term and 4000 for long term She was gorgeous but I passed knowing my friend was coming to see me and had read what was the going rate here.

I must have spent about 7000 pesos including air faire on my province girl. 5 days of great lovemaking it was worth it to me.

X Man
01-29-12, 11:07
That's pretty funny. The only thing I worry about is that they refine their techniques and get better at what they are trying to do. Although she has a long way to go before she fools anyone.


Had a funny but also meaningful chat with some girl from DIA / Pina today.

She: hell dear how are you?

Me: I'm doing fine.

She: I'm not fine my dear. I'm having a problem.

Me: what kind of problem.

SNIP.

D Cups
01-29-12, 17:07
[QUOTE=Sid70; 1241654]Had a funny but also meaningful chat with some girl from DIA / Pina today.

Funny, yes. Typical, yes. Meaningful? Well maybe not. Sometimes DIA stands for Dummies In Action. Still, I keep trying to hook up sometimes with the lovely electronic lasses, too. Advice from other mongers suggest getting a chat cam but I don't have time for their mindless yibber yabber (unless it is a prelude to some great fucking)!

Cuba Tourist
01-29-12, 17:56
Looking for the right guy. I'm lonizel dumalagan I live in cebu. I know I'm too young for this. But I believe that I have to make an action to find my soulmate, I'm a type of girl who is ambitious. But I will not ruin myself just because of money or what. And never dare to make an offer. Or else I will punch your face and you will regret it for the rest of your life.

Sammon
01-29-12, 19:12
M,

I just got back from Manila. Met a girl on one of the cam sites. Built up friendship for several months Would occasionally take her private but I never asked her to do anything. We just chatted. Anyway I tell her I will be in m Manila and would she like to join me for a brief vacation in nice hotel. She accepts I send her the Cebu Pacific info of her ticket and sure enough meet her at airport.

She was from province. I hit the jackpot! The best lover in many years. Absolutely great in bed. Couldn't have have asked for a better lover Wowo! Yes I took her shopping for some personal items but she never went overboard or asked for something very expensive. In fact she never asked I always asked what she needed. Followed me and never asked any questions. Once we got back to the room it was on wowowow.

Before she arrived I went to MBC to check out the scene. Saw a young pretty bunny we chatted and she quoted me 2000 for short term and 4000 for long term She was gorgeous but I passed knowing my friend was coming to see me and had read what was the going rate here.

I must have spent about 7000 pesos including air faire on my province girl. 5 days of great lovemaking it was worth it to me.Overall it is cheaper than barfining girl for each night. Ofcourse you are taking a chance. One I flew in from Butuan was a dud mainly because after two nights she had her period. Before the period she was very good. After she just wanted to rest in the room, did not want to go out and sex apart from kissing and touching her boobs was not there. The plan was for 5 nights. I tried to get her to go home after three nights by changing the ticket but she did not want to. Anyway I believe it is not her fault. Most girls get moody during their periods. It cost be about 1600 for the ticket and I gave 3000.

However the next girl who stayed with me for 10 nights was very good and became my gf. I made sure it was not her time for period.

Tally Wacker
01-29-12, 21:52
Are you kidding, that was the best f# read on here in some time. Someone up there likes you.The filipina house cleaner continues to come over weekly and we are like lovers during the time she is at my house. She still cleans very well which is part of the turn on. We make-out numerous times during her visits. When she gets too excited she will push me away and pull her clothes back on. I always take her bra off within 10 min after she gets to my house. I like her to go bra-less when she works and she knows it and does it for me. She likes to be sexy and has perfect boobs with very erect nipples. She wore the see threw white t-shirt again that I told her was a turn on. I slipped her bra off and she said 'look I wore your favorite shirt'. This girl was having as much fun with the situation as I was. I sometimes tell her to get to work and don't forget she is the cleaning lady. LOL. She laughs and then gets to work. She likes to work and is very fast and efficient.

I make a party atmosphere at my home when she comes over. I have the music loud and she likes to dance and sing while she cleans. Very sexy! Her husband does not allow her to eat junk food. Guess what? I buy her favorite soda, chips and chocolates and have them on the counter for her.

I suggested to her that I buy some sexy slutty outfits for her. She smiled and said 'what would I do wear them while I'm cleaning? ' I answered yes why not it would be sexy. She giggled with excitement. I did not buy the outfits yet but I'm pretty sure she will try on. She likes to look at herself in the mirror and model. I have a huge mirror on the wall next to my bed. What a sight.

We have become very open with each other. She showed me some of her single friend's photos and wants to find me a girlfriend. I asked her if she would be jealous if I started fucking another girl. She said no but then I could see her think twice about it. That's when I asked her if she has ever been with another girl and she said no. I talked about having a threesome and she was not sure about doing it but did not say no. After that visit I emailed her a few links to erotic videos of what I suggested we try sometime.

One of the videos was a girl on her knees giving her boyfriend a good blowjob. On her next visit we were grinding on the couch about 10 min after she arrived. Our pre warm up sessions have become more sexual than just kissing and grinding. She likes to play with my cock. I took a pillow from the couch and put it on the floor in front of me then I pulled out my hard cock and she kneeled down on the pillow and went to work. I did not give her direction and she gave me a BJ just like the video I sent her. This girl likes to suck cock. She continued sucking and attempting to deep throat my cock for about 10 min and then she said 'ok time to clean'. LOL. She did not want me to cum because she wants me to fuck her after she cleans. After the cleaning we went right upstairs and started playing. This time all of her clothes came off and she was very wild. She likes to be fucked rough and she is very submissive. I like to fuck her doggie style and pull her hair tight from behind so her face is looking up. She has this amazing fuck me look on her face and yells out 'fuck, fuck, fuck me! ' I can't get that vision out of my head. I'm addicted to her.

Again her long black hair was all over my bedroom and she cleaned it all up and made the bed while I took a shower. I have tried to get her in the shower with me but she says no. I guess she has to draw the line somewhere ha? LOL.

She texted me two days later and said she was visiting a friend's house close by and wanted to say Hi. I told her to come over. I knew she wanted to fuck. A few minutes after she arrived we were in the bedroom fucking. This time I was fucking her doggie while lying down sideways behind her. I fucked her pussy good and hard for about 10 min and she became gushing wet. I pushed her forward so her ass was visible and started to finger her asshole while I pumped her pussy. She just moaned with excitement and pleasure. I opened her ass a little bit with my finger then pulled my hard cock out and started rubbing it on her asshole. I looked up at her to see how she was reacting. She then all of a sudden reached back with both of her hands and spread her butt cheeks open. WTF? It did not look like a move that a virgin would make. I entered her ass and fucked her slow and deeper with every pump. She moaned out with a combination of pain and pleasure. I had her rub her clit while I fucked her ass. She was saying 'fuck, fuck its big, oh shit and climaxed many times. I increased my rhythm as I was getting closer to climax then I pulled out of her ass and had her spread her pussy open. I shot my cum all over her pussy as she watched and held her legs open. She said 'oh shit, oh shit its warm. ' I then rubbed my still hard cock on her pussy and fucked her pussy again with my warm cum. It was slippery and warm inside her pussy. We collapsed next to each other and commented how fucking hot it was.

She cleaned the room while I showered and when I came out of the shower she was downstairs picking things up and singing to the music. I gave her a kiss and she took off.

Later that evening I got a text from her that read 'Wow. You were awesome today'. I was amazed! This girl just came over to my house and I fucked her in the ass and now she is texting me that I'm awesome. WTF? I returned the text saying that it was good for me too.

Member #4491
01-30-12, 01:54
Looking for the right guy. I'm lonizel dumalagan I live in cebu. I know I'm too young for this. But I believe that I have to make an action to find my soulmate, I'm a type of girl who is ambitious. But I will not ruin myself just because of money or what. And never dare to make an offer. Or else I will punch your face and you will regret it for the rest of your life.They say pinays are passive aggressive but this one seem to have come out of the closet totally. Silly girl. Next.

B.

Carlos3000
01-30-12, 02:14
Gentlemen,

What exactly is a boarding house? In recent conversations with two DIA girls they have indicated they live in a boarding house. Thanks in advance for the help.

Fast Buck Artist
01-30-12, 14:38
Gentlemen,

What exactly is a boarding house? In recent conversations with two DIA girls they have indicated they live in a boarding house. Thanks in advance for the help.Imagine a slum house with 2 floors and 4 rooms about 10 square meters each, holes in the walls wide enough to put an arm through, and rust falling down from sheet metal roof. Each room has a cardboard partition to divide them into 2 tiny rooms, just enough to squeeze a bunk bed and one lightbulb inside. One water sink is shared, and one toilet for all, and of course the mice and roaches are shared as well. The owner of this chicken coop charges about 3000 pesos a month per "room", water and electric bills are shared.

Welcome to the Filipino boarding house! If you decide to visit a girls place. 50% of the time you'll find yourself in one of these.


Looking for the right guy. I'm lonizel dumalagan I live in cebu. I know I'm too young for this. But I believe that I have to make an action to find my soulmate, I'm a type of girl who is ambitious. But I will not ruin myself just because of money or what. And never dare to make an offer. Or else I will punch your face and you w kill regret it for the rest of your life.

Ah, the fire of youth haha! She doesnt know yet how high she'll need to jump to make good on that promise :)

X Man
01-30-12, 15:14
If you get a chance, go visit one. Have you read about poor people in magazines? That's looking at the water. Visiting a lower level boarding house in the Philippines is like dipping the toe into the cold water.

I slept in a few, in my younger years. If the wandering cocks (roosters) don't wake you up at 5am, you'll hear the neighbor's alarm clock ring at 6am.


Gentlemen,

What exactly is a boarding house? In recent conversations with two DIA girls they have indicated they live in a boarding house. Thanks in advance for the help.

Member #1088
01-30-12, 15:32
M,

I just got back from Manila. Met a girl on one.

I must have spent about 7000 pesos including air faire on my province girl. 5 days of great lovemaking it was worth it to me.I been in phillipines only 1 time, during that trip I did 2 girls in manila. One local and one I brought from province.

The local one was good, but not as good as the one I imported.

The province girl, was more affectionate and more hum. Like thankful, I took her to buy stuff and we went touring.

The manila girl say no to a couple of things, the province one, just look down and let me do her,. More submissive. I think it has to do with being cut off from their support systems. The local girl could go out and leave me, the province one, could not, she didn't know anyone in manila.

I prefer the province one for next time. But not have a way to get there. I do a lot of phone / cam with the ladies from DIA. Just to know, what kind of jobs you guys have that allow you to trave there? Don't need to know companies tnames or even titles, just a rough idea of what you guys do / professon.

Member #1088
01-30-12, 15:45
The filipina house cleaner continues to come over weekly and we are like lovers during the time she is at my house. She still cleans very well which is part of the turn on. We make-out numerous times during her visits. When she gets too excited she will push me away and p.

Later that evening I got a text from her that read 'Wow. You were awesome today'. I was amazed! This girl just came over to my house and I fucked her in the ass and now she is texting me that I'm awesome. WTF? I returned the text saying that it was good for me too.Now this is the detail I was talking about it.

Sammon
01-30-12, 16:01
Gentlemen,

What exactly is a boarding house? In recent conversations with two DIA girls they have indicated they live in a boarding house. Thanks in advance for the help.Boarding house in Phi may mean several things,

1. Most common is many girls sharing a Apt or house. MBC girls are in this category. All are working girls whether regular jobs or prostitute jobs.

2. One girl lives at her aunts house. Some friends of her also live at aunts house like paying guest. It works out cheaper.

3. One girl is a babysitter or maid at the house. House owners allow other girls to share the house for small payment. But all girls have to do chores including cooking.

4. College girls share a house.

5. In AC, Manila and other places bars provide cheap accomodation.

6. Girls who have foreign boyfriends or sponsors who send money every month rent a house or apt. Girl will have many other girls stay there and make money.

Ofcourse these girls are generally kicked out when the guy is there on vacation.

Boarding house girls are more likely to travel and meet you because no restrictions. Those who live with their family needs to convince many people before they can be with you.

D Cups
01-30-12, 16:19
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1242577]The filipina house cleaner continues to come over weekly

You are one lucky dude, Tally. I used to have my neighbor's Filipina maid come over and bang me when I lived in Carmenville subdivision of AC but that was many years ago.

FruitNinja
01-30-12, 18:10
So I'm chatting up this chick from FilipinoCupid. I've exchanged one email with her. Hot 25 year old. So within 1 minute of chat she says she needs 3000p to pay for something or another. I'm like, why would I do that? She says she'll make it up to me when I go there with plenty of sex, anal included. Hmm. So I ask her for pictures and she sends like 100 all total nude and playing with herself. Obviously taken by somebody else. And here I thought she was in love with me / The funny thing: She forwarded an email chain along with it of a guy she was pulling the same scam on. Ha!

So guys, do I have a moral monger obligation to let the guy know? Should I send her money? Haha! Should I post the pictures for grins?

Slippery
01-31-12, 02:36
So I'm chatting up this chick from FilipinoCupid. I've exchanged one email with her. Hot 25 year old. So within 1 minute of chat she says she needs 3000p to pay for something or another. I'm like, why would I do that? She says she'll make it up to me when I go there with plenty of sex, anal included. Hmm. So I ask her for pictures and she sends like 100 all total nude and playing with herself. Obviously taken by somebody else. And here I thought she was in love with me / The funny thing: She forwarded an email chain along with it of a guy she was pulling the same scam on. Ha!

So guys, do I have a moral monger obligation to let the guy know? Should I send her money? Haha! Should I post the pictures for grins?Get used to it.

Red Kilt
01-31-12, 05:52
Imagine a slum house with 2 floors and 4 rooms about 10 square meters each, holes in the walls wide enough to put an arm through, and rust falling down from sheet metal roof. Each room has a cardboard partition to divide them into 2 tiny rooms, just enough to squeeze a bunk bed and one lightbulb inside. One water sink is shared, and one toilet for all, and of course the mice and roaches are shared as well. The owner of this chicken coop charges about 3000 pesos a month per "room", water and electric bills are shared.

Welcome to the Filipino boarding house! If you decide to visit a girls place. 50% of the time you'll find yourself in one of these.Well you did say 50% of the time FBA. The other 50% could be one of the options that Sammon so neatly summarized.

They are not all squalid.

I have met a woman from Bicol who lives in a boarding house in a nice part of Pasay. She has her own room; access to kitchen with microwave and refrig; cable TV and she pays 1100 php per month. The woman, a widow who owns the house, just wants companionship, so my friend is one of the lucky ones.

BTW, I love the way home owners advertise for "Lady Bed Spacers". A rather quaint way of advertising for a woman to take up a space available in a boarding house.

Bob Bowie
01-31-12, 10:46
Boarding house girls are the best because they don't have to deal with the family or neighbors judging her. Plus they get to live the life of a rich foreigner, hot shower, cable tv ect.

One friend in Davao pays 750 peso a month for her room.

Sid70
01-31-12, 12:42
So I'm chatting up this chick from FilipinoCupid. I've exchanged one email with her. Hot 25 year old. So within 1 minute of chat she says she needs 3000p to pay for something or another. I'm like, why would I do that? She says she'll make it up to me when I go there with plenty of sex, anal included. Hmm. So I ask her for pictures and she sends like 100 all total nude and playing with herself. Obviously taken by somebody else. And here I thought she was in love with me / The funny thing: She forwarded an email chain along with it of a guy she was pulling the same scam on. Ha!

So guys, do I have a moral monger obligation to let the guy know? Should I send her money? Haha! Should I post the pictures for grins?No question. Post the pictures and let her know that you're OTW to the next WU shop. 555

X Man
01-31-12, 14:32
BBowie, I had to read this twice and now realize you were making a contrast between the first paragraph and the second. Having lived here and there and stayed here and there, the money unit doesn't always compute so simply.

Nevertheless, I like Davao. I'm thinking about my retirement. Could you send me the name of the flophouse where your friend currently resides? Much obliged. X.

Ps if you think she wants to share such room, please send me her email, phone, body measurements, and any details about dangerous, angry, or armed friends or relatives.


Boarding house girls are the best because they don't have to deal with the family or neighbors judging her. Plus they get to live the life of a rich foreigner, hot shower, cable tv ect.

One friend in Davao pays 750 peso a month for her room.

Fast Buck Artist
02-01-12, 13:13
Well you did say 50% of the time FBA. The other 50% could be one of the options that Sammon so neatly summarized.

They are not all squalid.My friend ran one of these boarding houses, and if the place was nice to begin with, the ghetto tenants will turn it into a pigsty (what they are most comfortable in!) Every time one of his tenants leaves, the room looks like a typhoon aftermath. In the end he got tired of being a slumlord and converted the house into a barbershop business.

Actually for mongering purposes, boarding house is great news! A boarding girl is much more likely to stay over at your hotel overnight (no parents to report to!)

ElRayo55
02-01-12, 13:47
I been in phillipines only 1 time, during that trip I did 2 girls in manila. One local and one I brought from province.

The local one was good, but not as good as the one I imported.

The province girl, was more affectionate and more hum. Like thankful, I took her to buy stuff and we went touring.

The manila girl say no to a couple of things, the province one, just look down and let me do her. More submissive. I think it has to do with being cut off from their support systems. The local girl could go out and leave me, the province one, could not, she didn't know anyone in manila.

I prefer the province one for next time. But not have a way to get there. I do a lot of phone / cam with the ladies from DIA. Just to know, what kind of jobs you guys have that allow you to trave there? Don't need to know companies tnames or even titles, just a rough idea of what you guys do / professon.Bro I am a 54 year old man divorced for many years and kids out of college. The house is paid off. I used to go out and date here in the states but so much bs from the middle aged women. So now I don't go out save my money and take off two or 3 times a year to enjoy the companionship of young women Been to Nam China and now the Pi I wasnt Johnny Depp in nam China but in the Philippines you treat young girl good and wowow you will get your moneys worthand you become Brad Pitt! Remember in the end we always pay. Who cares. I just got back meeting 4 young women and I had a ball. Once you are with a very young woman you don't need viagra! Beleive me you won't look at another over 30 or 40 year old woman again. Work save and go play. Be good to the women and you will have the time of your life.

Member #4491
02-01-12, 22:21
I know the site is for LBs but this is a woman, and quite resourceful as well.

http://www.ladyboykisses.com/showfotos.php?l=en&id=28569&foto_id=140003&history=11&randm=19&randw=37

155 cm and juicy tits. I will never be in Bulacan, so I leave it up to someone else to juggle them.

Barba