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Greetings Everyone,
I moved the last several pages of discussion regarding "Identifying Transvestites" to another thread in the forum titled "Identifying Transvestites".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2657-Identifying-Transvestites
This "Thread Splitting" process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently moved / did not move a few reports. If you find that your own report was also moved / not moved, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
Jackson
Shopaoholicbabe on DIA.
"She" has a few facebook accounts and the pic on DIA is NOT her. Its your typical bait and switch. AVOID.
Starchild2012
06-11-12, 04:07
Ohh my God. Western men and their endless problems and here I'm in a third world country and I thought god is always unkind to me.
A guy comes to the PH, likes a girl, marries her and takes back his bride to his country thinking all his problems are over but alas, his nightmare has only begun. Man, I thought western civilizations are more evolved than third world country societies and customs which makes every effort to suck any thought about good life and freedom.
I thought with the concept of freedom and liberty, American society will accept an exotic beauty from far away land, never mind the age difference. Leave that to low evolved countries to even think on age difference. Not on love. Guess, I didn't miss anything living in developed countries with views on liberty and freedom which looks well on paper.
I'm quite shocked by reading some post here. These are the kind of things I read on paper everyday on disapproval of marriages in India even with same age, society here goes as far as to Kill the groom, if they do not approve the marriage. [honor killing]. Why do people in America even care if two people wants to stay together. Leave that low thoughts to us third world country people. Where even gf-bf, live-in is prohibited.
Are you guys sure. You are not Indians by any chance. Because the way you wrote about media, women staring, society disapproval of your marriage sounds like my place back home in india
Marconista
06-11-12, 07:58
Its called jealousy and US / EU ladies get envious (because they dont look that good themselves) when they see the SYT with an older gentleman, making all the fuzz. As plain as that, not to put in context with the Indian society. IMHO.
Ohh my God. Western men and their endless problems and here I'm in a third world country and I thought god is always unkind to me.
A guy comes to the PH, likes a girl, marries her and takes back his bride to his country thinking all his problems are over but alas, his nightmare has only begun. Man, I thought western civilizations are more evolved than third world country societies and customs which makes every effort to suck any thought about good life and freedom.
I thought with the concept of freedom and liberty, American society will accept an exotic beauty from far away land, never mind the age difference. Leave that to low evolved countries to even think on age difference. Not on love. Guess, I didn't miss anything living in developed countries with views on liberty and freedom which looks well on paper.
I'm quite shocked by reading some post here. These are the kind of things I read on paper everyday on disapproval of marriages in India even with same age, society here goes as far as to Kill the groom, if they do not approve the marriage. [honor killing]. Why do people in America even care if two people wants to stay together. Leave that low thoughts to us third world country people. Where even gf-bf, live-in is prohibited.
Are you guys sure. You are not Indians by any chance. Because the way you wrote about media, women staring, society disapproval of your marriage sounds like my place back home in india
Avioneto123
06-11-12, 08:51
I was just attending a celebaration for independece day. I was sorrunded by young and beautiful filipinas. They have an attitude when they arrive here, Only in the Philippines they love me ($). Here I am just a old "lolo". I can wait for my next trip in October to the land of happiness.
I'm a white guy. 57, professional, reasonably good looking, reasonably well off but not rich, living in Northern California, Starchild. I assure you the women my age here are jealous as hell of old man / young woman couples and naturally so. The women my age here (or even 25 years younger) are fat, self-centered, lousy lovers, bitter and have more baggage than United Airlines. A guy would have to be crazy to marry one of these old hags. I go to Asia and date beautiful women in their 20s and early 30s. Sure, you can't always have a deep conversation with them but who cares. Go to work for that or talk to your intelligent buddies. I like Latinas, too, but it is cheaper in PI and English-speaking so for me it is ideal. Plus all the politicians and greedy businessmen in the USAhave ruined it for the common man. I will retire in the PI.
Ohh my God. Western men and their endless problems and here I'm in a third world country and I thought god is always unkind to me.
A guy comes to the PH, likes a girl, marries her and takes back his bride to his country thinking all his problems are over but alas, his nightmare has only begun. Man, I thought western civilizations are more evolved than third world country societies and customs which makes every effort to suck any thought about good life and freedom.
I thought with the concept of freedom and liberty, American society will accept an exotic beauty from far away land, never mind the age difference. Leave that to low evolved countries to even think on age difference. Not on love. Guess, I didn't miss anything living in developed countries with views on liberty and freedom which looks well on paper.
I'm quite shocked by reading some post here. These are the kind of things I read on paper everyday on disapproval of marriages in India even with same age, society here goes as far as to Kill the groom, if they do not approve the marriage. [honor killing]. Why do people in America even care if two people wants to stay together. Leave that low thoughts to us third world country people. Where even gf-bf, live-in is prohibited.
Are you guys sure. You are not Indians by any chance. Because the way you wrote about media, women staring, society disapproval of your marriage sounds like my place back home in india
Soapy Smith
06-12-12, 04:58
I was just attending a celebaration for independece day. I was sorrunded by young and beautiful filipinas. They have an attitude when they arrive here, Only in the Philippines they love me ($). Here I am just a old "lolo". I can wait for my next trip in October to the land of happiness.The beautiful young Filipinas in our local Fil-Am association are mostly teachers and nurses-who would have had to pass qualifying exams in the Philippines. So these are well-educated women who would have career and husband options in the Phils as well. If you met them in the Phils you'd be Lolo to them there as well, if you got any notice at all. These women, if not originally from the upper Philippine strata, would see themselves as middle class on the basis of their education and career possibilities. Most of them have little need for us geezers-unless Canadian immigration policies have less stringent quotas and educational requirements for Filipinos who want to emigrate. They don't need any North American women to give them an attitude. They arrive with it.
On guy mentions "geezer" and another mentions "lolo", but none of you give an age or anything else could possibly make sense of anythiing. And what does it all have to do with chat room thread?
The beautiful young Filipinas in our local Fil-Am association are mostly teachers and nurses-who would have had to pass qualifying exams in the Philippines. So these are well-educated women who would have career and husband options in the Phils as well. If you met them in the Phils you'd be Lolo to them there as well, if you got any notice at all. These women, if not originally from the upper Philippine strata, would see themselves as middle class on the basis of their education and career possibilities. Most of them have little need for us geezers-unless Canadian immigration policies have less stringent quotas and educational requirements for Filipinos who want to emigrate. They don't need any North American women to give them an attitude. They arrive with it.
On guy mentions "geezer" and another mentions "lolo", but none of you give an age or anything else could possibly make sense of anythiing. And what does it all have to do with chat room thread?I think it is loosely connected to the notion of how so many girls start off meeting guys in chat and / or become penpals and end up migrating across the world X Man, so it is not too far off thread topic.
Just to restore things, one of my favorite meet-ups here just told me online she is off to Singapore last week of June for 2 weeks.
Some guy she has met online has sent her a ticket, and a hotel address where she can stay.
She has not yet met him in person.
She has never been out of the Phils before so she will rock up to the airport with a brand new passport, probably a few pesos in her bag (she never has money) , and a hotel address where she will stay (she hopes).
I tried to gently warn the naive gal that she may not get past immigration and she was surprised. Nobody had told her anything about potential problems.
I guess her erstwhile on-line chat friend is not aware of a few pitfalls waiting for such arrangements at the airport.
If she passes the first test and gets on the plane, then he might also freak out when he sees her tattoos on her lower back unless she has shown them to him already on cam. Unlikely, as she is very careful on cam chat.
Caution: train wreck ahead.
I think it is loosely connected to the notion of how so many girls start off meeting guys in chat and / or become penpals and end up migrating across the world X Man, so it is not too far off thread topic.
Just to restore things, one of my favorite meet-ups here just told me online she is off to Singapore last week of June for 2 weeks.
Some guy she has met online has sent her a ticket, and a hotel address where she can stay.
She has not yet met him in person.
She has never been out of the Phils before so she will rock up to the airport with a brand new passport, probably a few pesos in her bag (she never has money) , and a hotel address where she will stay (she hopes).
I tried to gently warn the naive gal that she may not get past immigration and she was surprised. Nobody had told her anything about potential problems.
I guess her erstwhile on-line chat friend is not aware of a few pitfalls waiting for such arrangements at the airport.
If she passes the first test and gets on the plane, then he might also freak out when he sees her tattoos on her lower back unless she has shown them to him already on cam. Unlikely, as she is very careful on cam chat.
Caution: train wreck ahead.This happens all the time, guys get the girls from online dating and tell them they can earn a lot going there, they say promotion and modeling
This happens all the time, guys get the girls from online dating and tell them they can earn a lot going there, they say promotion and modelingYes Frenzy. Agreed. But in this case she is going to meet him for a dirty 2 weeks.
What you described is exactly why the Immigration is interviewing girls at departure who are heading off overseas on their own with no cash in hand.
We are cross-referencing here with posts on the Manila thread.
More and more girls are being denied boarding, especially those who are obviously just going off to stay with a guy for a few days. The suspicion is that he is going to "enslave" her and make her work in an unsavory place. There is probably enough evidence around to support such a suspicion.
The latest I know is they get the girl to go HK, no guy turns up they fly home, then they get told to meet the guy in China, I think the girls work out it not a good idea to go China alone, none I spoke to want to go to China
I am currently working in a small post conflict state in South East Europe, there is a very small Filipina community here mainly employed by a very wealthy Russian. One of his (ten filipina housekeepers) left to return home and the head Filipina housekeeper arranged for her friend from Zamboanga to come over and work here as a replacement. There is no visa regime here so it was a straightforward issue of jumping on plane and getting here. The employment was confirmed with a letter and yet the poor girl was turned away from boarding her flight twice by officials at Manila airport who would not believe her reasons for travelling. To say she was distraught is an understatement.
So yes I can confirm what the other posters have said; it is not such an easy process to pay for your Filipina sweetheart to come and visit in another country especially outside of Asia.
I have heard a lot about dia but is that the best hookup website? It seems like it is hard to sieve through the women who are desperate to marry a prince charming versus others who are willing to date and go out for some fun. Is there anything a little more spicy?
Summer17 at dia.
Contact at your own risk. You must like extreme sports and her. Not sure if there is something extreme about her bedroom sport, but I'm not going to find out. Ha, ha.
FurryFriend
06-17-12, 12:21
I have heard a lot about dia but is that the best hookup website? It seems like it is hard to sieve through the women who are desperate to marry a prince charming versus others who are willing to date and go out for some fun. Is there anything a little more spicy?I'd say. 3 out of 5 girls on DIA would be open to P4P. FilipinoCupid is the other website where girls are mostly after marriage.
There's not going to be a dating website that's "more spicy". Do you expect girls to openly talk about sex when their profiles and photos can be accessed by people she knows or law enforcement?
You're just going to have to do some homework and work the website. Meeting girls in the Philippines is already easy as sin. Don't expect a website to make it easier.
Tally Wacker
06-19-12, 21:52
Hey guys I've been chatting this girl who is a waitress at a regular Disco in Manila. But her profile photos look like she worked in a fuck me bar before although she says she did not. Can anyone recognize the bar in the photos. It could be a KTV bar too I guess.
Thanks for the help.
Tally Wacker
06-19-12, 22:05
I have been chatting this girl in the photos who works a a waitress in a regular Disco in Manila but her profile photos look as if she waorked in a fuk me bar before although she says she did not. Can anyone recognize the bar or tell me if thats a barfine bar? The photos are from 2 different places. It could be a KTV bar also.
Thanks for the help.
Screaming Beaver
06-20-12, 05:28
I have been chatting this girl in the photos who works a a waitress in a regular Disco in Manila but her profile photos look as if she waorked in a fuk me bar before although she says she did not. Can anyone recognize the bar or tell me if thats a barfine bar? The photos are from 2 different places. It could be a KTV bar also.
Thanks for the help.Sorry to break the news to you wacker but I've already banged Miles. That little beaver does not work as a waitress in a disco bar. She works on P. Burgos. Two of those pics were taken at the bar in the New World Hotel in Makati. I'd rate her about a 6 in the sack. Nothing special. So when is the wedding date? Good luck.
TW I posted this on another forum :
From a guy who lives here and see the girls who are online,
Each girl has 4 or more accounts, they use sisters and friends photos.
None I know really want a relationship, they just want money.
Most already have a sponsor, and or work in a bar.
Most have no intention of leaving PI they make more than the average wage and do it with less effort.
The ugly girls get more money online as guys think no one else like them. Sponsor send 4-10k for cams, sick family.
Often they outsource the chat etc to the local kids for the kids to get free Internet.
Gay men would be 80% off the accounts and make the most money I met some making 100 k per month.
Ones that claim to be real are often the best scammers, they work on long time trust, they hit jackpots all the time.
I would spend more time making money, learn something new, wait till you get here and meet girls I get more girls by going out side and asking girls I see and like than I do on line.
I'd say. 3 out of 5 girls on DIA would be open to P4P.I think that is a bit optimistic. I certainly agree that the number of p4p girls in DIA is high but not as high as 60%. More like 20% to 30%
But then I guess the figure could depend on how we define P4P
Tally Wacker
06-20-12, 07:22
Don't get carried away boys. I am aware she is a fuk girl just checking her story out and playng my hand.
I'm filling my days in between non fuk girls with ones like her that are a sure thing.
Frenzy don't get too full of yourself there in filipinaville it don't take game to fuk in cebu thats why the world goes there to fuk for free.
I live in California and I'm in my upper 40's and I have a nice little herem of filipinas as well but I choose not to act like a know it all dick.
One week to go and the fun will start!
I have been chatting with a very attractive single mom on YM (met her on DIA).
We met last Monday and we had a good time together.
I gave her money for her daughter's birthday present and party on this coming Friday, more cash for her daughter's school supplies / registration and 500 php for her fares (she came on a 4 hour bus trip (240 php each way) to meet me).
She was worth the cash.
Very sweet, and I was assuming I may not see her again for a long time because I have a busy work period coming up and anyway she lives too far away.
Today, out of the blue, I get a text telling me she has found a pair of shoes that she wants, and her father's tricycle registration and his driver's licence need renewal. Please send me 3500 php as soon as you can.
When I responded by saying "No, Sorry. I won't be doing that. I am not an ATM for your family" she started sending me the sorry sorry sorry texts and when I didn't reply she started on the "make me feel guilty" texts ("I thought you were a kind gentleman but I was wrong" etc etc).
When I still ignored her she started with the "rude asshole" texts.
I have deleted her from my phone and YM now.
She kicked the gift horse in the mouth.
Amazing transformation in her. I thought I was a good judge of women, but this one was a surprise.
Horny Landoora
06-20-12, 13:01
So when is the wedding date? Good luck.LOL this cracked me up! I hope Wacker there wasnt anything serious goin on!
Thanks for the added humor ScreamBvr, much appreciated. TalliWacker, surely must have known the truth, but we thank him for the pictures. Good pics BTW. Hopefully, TW will keep up his online relationship, meet her on his next trip and give a full report on what a regular gal she is! Or better yet, a full report on what an irregular gal she is. (I do not inform gals when I know they lie to me, I ignore it. If gals lie and you know it, ignore. Please do not train them how to lie better.)
X.
Sorry to break the news to you wacker but I've already banged Miles. That little beaver does not work as a waitress in a disco bar. She works on P. Burgos. Two of those pics were taken at the bar in the New World Hotel in Makati. I'd rate her about a 6 in the sack. Nothing special. So when is the wedding date? Good luck.
Radical Guy
06-20-12, 13:38
I think that is a bit optimistic. I certainly agree that the number of p4p girls in DIA is high but not as high as 60. More like 20% to 30%
But then I guess the figure could depend on how we define P4PI think that depends on how it is phrased. If you ask a girl to have sex with you for money, most will appear offended, having been accused of being a prostitute. But I would agree that most would have no problem being a gf to a nice guy who is "generous," and offers "gifts." The key is to offer plausible deniability, with the girl having the ability to enjoy benefits of an encounter without feeling labeled a wh0re.
Hi Red, I can relate. The transformation to greed is truly amazing. Now I tell the girls if I give them all my money now I won't be able to see them later. It's not entirely true but certainly a counter-strategy is required. Or just move on to the next one.
I have been chatting with a very attractive single mom on YM (met her on DIA).
Today, out of the blue, I get a text telling me she has found a pair of shoes that she wants, and her father's tricycle registration and his driver's licence need renewal. Please send me 3500 php as soon as you can.
Amazing transformation in her. I thought I was a good judge of women, but this one was a surprise.
I had a DIA girl before who told me she might not be online for a month because she was out of budget and can not pay for her internet connection. Stupid as I am, I sent her monies through PayPal. We chatted online via Skype almost everyday. One day she ask me that her mother wants to borrow some cash for me, around 40K to pay for her grandfather's hospital bill. I am glad I came to my senses!
I think that depends on how it is phrased. If you ask a girl to have sex with you for money, most will appear offended, having been accused of being a prostitute. But I would agree that most would have no problem being a gf to a nice guy who is "generous," and offers "gifts." The key is to offer plausible deniability, with the girl having the ability to enjoy benefits of an encounter without feeling labeled a wh0re.Very well put RC! I prefer to spend my time with girls who deliver a 'Girl Friend Experience'. Often this entails dining out, resort travel, and gifts. Most of these girls would indeed be offended by a crass monetary exchange, but certainly there is an exchange of goods for services rendered.
She kicked the gift horse in the mouth.Well-phrased, Red Kilt. Yet another case of a Filipina overplaying her hand. I think we all can commiserate.
Chocha Monger
06-21-12, 02:01
Sorry to break the news to you wacker but I've already banged Miles. That little beaver does not work as a waitress in a disco bar. She works on P. Burgos. Two of those pics were taken at the bar in the New World Hotel in Makati. I'd rate her about a 6 in the sack. Nothing special. So when is the wedding date? Good luck.Screaming Beaver,
Nice work! Her name indicates that her beaver has seen quite a bit of mileage on P. Burgos Street. It's true that a 6 out 10 is a failing grade on the beaver scale but to an elderly sex deprived American monger it's a 9 and practically virgin. He had better make her an indoor beaver or she'll likely end up making the rounds for trap money back home.
Blast from the past has resufaced on DIA. THe bad news is that she's reached the ripe old age of 19.
Back when she was younger.
We were supposed to meet for lunch. But that day there was a downpour and she wanted to take off her wet jeans as soon as possible. Five minutes later, in my room, an offer of a L t'shirt (for privacy) was declined. Okay, I guess I fit the bill for the perfect gentleman, but a hot, busty gal in my hotel room, wearing red panties was a bit too much. I fucked her quick and hard. And we talked and I fkd her again. And we got something to eat and I fked her again. And again. Not always having orgasm of course. I'm not superman. I think it was the next afternoon when I suggested we part ways.
I won't say her beauty or skills were superior. But the mood was great. She pulled those wet jeans off as soon as she entered the room. And she hardly wore a stitch of clothing for the next 24 hours. And now she's back within my grasp. I wonder how much more naughy she's become since I saw her last year. X
Screaming Beaver
06-22-12, 03:54
Screaming Beaver,
Nice work! Her name indicates that her beaver has seen quite a bit of mileage on P. Burgos Street. It's true that a 6 out 10 is a failing grade on the beaver scale but to an elderly sex deprived American monger it's a 9 and practically virgin. He had better make her an indoor beaver or she'll likely end up making the rounds for trap money back home.I've been getting a number of PM's from Tally Wacker. Apparently he is very upset after finding out the girl he's been sending money to on a monthly basis has been working in a bar behind his back. Now he's asking me what kind of sex acts were performed, the amount of money which changed hands, why I only rated her as a 6, blah blah blah. He also had the audacity to ask if I cummed on her face! Is nothing sacred in this world anymore?
The latest news flash has her status on the dating site 'Taken by Tally Wacker'. I truly do hope everything works out.
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Cunning Stunt
06-22-12, 09:54
http://inc.dateinasia.com//Members/Photos/1985971_profile_634749787600000000.jpg
http://www.dateinasia.com/mspamy+moncherie.Html
I'd prob want to do 'her' if I didn't know. But seriously, who wants to fuck a ladyboy. I mean really. Oh. Yes I suppose there are some who would.You are too late, mate. She has already found her true love..lol. I think that many mongers speak with forked tongues and quite often those who protest the most revulsion to the ' third sex' are those who has the biggest buried secret desire to fuck one. And often not so hidden. I know of members here who are straight but enjoy the occasional fling with a lb.
Me, I am genuinely uninterested in them sexually but I am endlessly fascinated by their culture and lifestyles, particularly the Thai versions. There is a fascinating 6 part insight into their world showing on Sky at the moment. Called, of course, 'Ladyboys' it focuses on the lives of a group of Thai bakla. Downloaded it but yet to view so cannot say if it is any good. Anyone else caught it?
http://inc.dateinasia.com//Members/Photos/1985971_profile_634749787600000000.jpg
http://www.dateinasia.com/mspamy+moncherie.Html
I'd prob want to do 'her' if I didn't know. But seriously, who wants to fuck a ladyboy. I mean really. Oh. Yes I suppose there are some who would.Not something you want to discuss on ISG according to forum rules.
Girl 2 from my recent report claims that she has been attacked at her place in Cavite and now is in hospital. She has turned on YM and I can see her in what appers to look like a hospital room, I can see a curtain behind her a bed with railing and pink fucking walls like its some spanish hacienda which to me is sort of strange. She is in good spirit, I can't see bruises but I can see bandages on her head and her hand including a little cask on her hand. She claims that she needs operation (fractured fingers) that will cost 20K. She asked for help but was not too pushy. She is at our lady of piar hospital in cavite. I can't figure this one. Has anyone had something like this before? I don't care too much for her and may repeat in future but if not so no big loss. I am just curious if anyone has had such a show put on for them or if you are local does this make sence to you? I would love to know if this is for real or am I being played?
I had a DIA girl before who told me she might not be online for a month because she was out of budget and can not pay for her internet connection. Stupid as I am, I sent her monies through PayPal. We chatted online via Skype almost everyday. One day she ask me that her mother wants to borrow some cash for me, around 40K to pay for her grandfather's hospital bill. I am glad I came to my senses!You know, I'm not really sure whether you can call that a scam from her point of view or just different expectations about the relationship. As one filipina said to me,"It is easier for us to fall in love with you if you are generous." Filipinos have large close families and everyone who is working and has some cash is expected to pitch in and help out those are need it. I also chatted a Filipina almost every day for a month, and some of it was quite sexual. In her eyes, we were "lovers" and in her mind I was an American with plenty of loose cash laying around. Compared to the average Filipino family, they are correct. She was one of the few working members of her family and so was under continual pressure to help out everyone else. I helped out with a couple of "family emergencies." The money wasn't much to me but a couple of week's wages for her. On the third "emergency" I said no and she got quite upset about it. It was very stingy in her mind not to help. We broke things off by mutual consent. I don't really think it's a scam. If I was in her shoes, I'd probably expect some help too. Still, I've learned my lesson and now am very clear that I will send NO money from abroad for any reason. Otherwise there will be no end to requests. Of course, if I had an ongoing gf relationship and visited regularly, I'd be more generous.
I don't believe you are being played. It takes too much planning and organization for the average filipina. In that same time she can chat up 10 old lonely men on a dating site.
Tally Wacker
06-22-12, 21:05
I've been getting a number of PM's from Tally Wacker. Apparently he is very upset after finding out the girl he's been sending money to on a monthly basis has been working in a bar behind his back. Now he's asking me what kind of sex acts were performed, the amount of money which changed hands, why I only rated her as a 6, blah blah blah. He also had the audacity to ask if I cummed on her face! Is nothing sacred in this world anymore?
The latest news flash has her status on the dating site 'Taken by Tally Wacker'. I truly do hope everything works out.I might be upset with you making up stories here but since you and your butt buddy cm have no credibility on this site its not a big deal. I thought this site was for trading info on girls? There are a number of good guys on this site who I trade pm's with that are not liars out to increase their monger credibility by bashing others. I've found that the guys who act like this are the biggest pussies in person. You can go back to bashing now.
My PM to Screaming Dick:
From Tally Wacker
Hey thanks for letting me know about Miles.
Was she really a 6?
I'm aware she fucks guys I'm not that gullable thats why I posted it.
What can you tell me about her?
Do you know what bar she works?
Thanks, TW.
Screaming Dicks response:
I met her on FC just like you. She's hotter looking in the pics than in real life. I forgot the name of the bar she works at on P. Burgos. Anyway, don't sweat it and give her a hard time about bull shitting you. I'll be going back there next month myself but won't be doing a reapeat with her. Better talent to be had.
Tally Wacker:
No its ok I suspected she was thats why I poster her photo.
I saw her on cam and she took her top off too it was not great lighting but I liked her brown color and her dimples her boobs looked nice and firm too.
What all were you able to do with her? How much? Did she take cum shot?
Thanks!
Sreaming Dick:
She's up for just about anything. I think I paid her 1500 pesos for a few hours. I banged so many that week it's all a blur LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-22-12, 22:48
Me, I am genuinely uninterested in them sexually but I am endlessly fascinated by their culture and lifestyles, particularly the Thai versions. There is a fascinating 6 part insight into their world showing on Sky at the moment. Called, of course, 'Ladyboys' it focuses on the lives of a group of Thai bakla. Downloaded it but yet to view so cannot say if it is any good. Anyone else caught it?Must be what the recent torrents like this one "BSkyB Ladyboys 6of6 Doing It for Themselves PDTV XviD AC3-MVGroup" is about. I thought it was some kind of porno upload.
WestCoast1
06-23-12, 01:27
Girl 2 from my recent report claims that she has been attacked at her place in Cavite and now is in hospital. She has turned on YM and I can see her in what appers to look like a hospital room, I can see a curtain behind her a bed with railing and pink fucking walls like its some spanish hacienda which to me is sort of strange. She is in good spirit, I can't see bruises but I can see bandages on her head and her hand including a little cask on her hand. She claims that she needs operation (fractured fingers) that will cost 20K. She asked for help but was not too pushy. She is at our lady of piar hospital in cavite. I can't figure this one. Has anyone had something like this before? I don't care too much for her and may repeat in future but if not so no big loss. I am just curious if anyone has had such a show put on for them or if you are local does this make sence to you? I would love to know if this is for real or am I being played?Have her explain how she got internet access in a hospital. If she's using one of those SmartBro thumb-drive thingy's, she does not need your money. She would have sold it by now, along with the laptop. Next month when you're back in town she will meet with you for fun, have had the surgery, will be recuperated ("so much it was pain") , and magically, the scar will be gone ("complete it heal. Amaze huh"). Ask the hospital name and phone number and doctor's name.
WestCoast1
06-23-12, 01:41
I've been getting a number of PM's from Tally Wacker.Can we keep these private matters private?
I am currently working in a small post conflict state in South East Europe, there is a very small Filipina community here mainly employed by a very wealthy Russian. One of his (ten filipina housekeepers) left to return home and the head Filipina housekeeper arranged for her friend from Zamboanga to come over and work here as a replacement. There is no visa regime here so it was a straightforward issue of jumping on plane and getting here. The employment was confirmed with a letter and yet the poor girl was turned away from boarding her flight twice by officials at Manila airport who would not believe her reasons for travelling. To say she was distraught is an understatement.
So yes I can confirm what the other posters have said; it is not such an easy process to pay for your Filipina sweetheart to come and visit in another country especially outside of Asia.I live and work in Dubai and the way we bring filipinas here will probably work for any other location. We use escort service (no, not hot girls that follow you around). It's someone who works at the airport and has connections. Such person for around $700-$800 will guarantee that filipina will pass immigration and into the boarding area. I work with a filipina travel agent here in Dubai through whom I'm getting visas. She knows a few escorts. And while passing immigration is not 100-successful from the first try, one can always re-book the ticket for next day and try again. In worst case if the girl cannot pass the escort money is fully refunded.
Member #4566
06-23-12, 09:24
i'the have to admit that america's heartland is filled with beautiful young blonde chicks with big firm milky tits with fresh pink nipples so mongers going elsewhere obviously can't play in that league. for whatever the reason mongers can only look at those women in penthouse and rub one out. the handsome rich and powerful men in america don't need to go hunting for ass in the third world where desperation and scarcity of options lowers the bar for pussy access. those types of guys are riding the best pussy america has to offer. yes, the truth hurts but third world mongering is for the old, the lame, the poor and socially inept. even the toothless must eat their meat and mongering in the grimy poverty stricken parts of the globe fills that need. nothing wrong with that as long as mongers don't start thinking they're brad pitt banging angelina jolie. obviously, no one who can pull quality ass in a safe clean wealthy western nation would risk injury, disease, robbery, death, incarceration, anal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and their very own episode of 'locked up abroad' just to bust a nut.dear chocha monger:
when you wrote this, you must have been having a bad day. maybe a **** hair had spit in your eye because she was having a bad day or maybe because she was having her period. (research shows that asian women do not use menstruation to explain their moods. in other words, american women can be bitchy 3 weeks out of a month and in the 4th week, they are having their period.)
being rich, handsome, and young not only will get you better females but will also get you superior housing, larger job prospects, and a better cut of beef but don't complain to your butcher because such is life as we know it.
the epicenter of american beauty is maybe 5th avenue or the mall of america. go to these places and observe how many of the women who pass by between the ages of 20 and 30 are a five or better. i don't mean that they would be a five if they lost 10 pounds. or they are a five because they think that they are a ten. or that they are a five even though their face is in a permanent sneer. maybe 30% are 5 or better. then go to beijing st. in guangzhou, mi yong dong in seoul, raponggi in tokyo, or outside the rex hotel in saigon. count the percentage of the women 5 or above there and you will get 80. if you are stuck on the american vision of beauty you are truly limiting yourself. ethiopian women are as wondrous as a sparkler on a dark night.
now your post was on the philippine forum. philipinas are the most personable women on the planet. sure, the culture has been jaded by 300 years of colonialism but the plus side is that they speak english. cheer up man. life is good
Cunning Stunt
06-23-12, 11:00
Must be what the recent torrents like this one "BSkyB Ladyboys 6of6 Doing It for Themselves PDTV XviD AC3-MVGroup" is about. I thought it was some kind of porno upload.Nah, its real ok. Episode six apparently focuses on the first ladyboy air hostess! Fuck me (on second thoughts, rather not..lol).
Screaming Beaver
06-23-12, 17:50
Screaming Beaver,
If you take a look at Hog Jowls' ugly mug on the photo gallery it's easy to understand why this potato headed fat ass has to send money to mediocre Burgos Street hookers who promise him love and fidelity. I hope he didn't cry too many tears into his extra large Coke as he gobbled down a box of Twinkies when he found out that little beaver lied to him. The way he interrogated you by PM shows he was clearly distressed to learn the truth about the object of his obsession. This supersized lard ass clearly needs to lay off stalking prostitutes on the internet and get on a strict diet and exercise program. I hope your revelation didn't cause him any further cardiac distress.If posting a pic of his own mug were not enough he's now posting pictures of shemales in the photo gallery. In addition he's sending PM's to X Man and addressing him as CS. To say this fat ass is a bit confused is an understatement. Here's a pic of his gf I took recently. The one feature I remember most is the Jimmy Durante like proboscis she was sporting. She told me Tally Wacker plans on getting her a nose job before the wedding.
Monseignor
06-24-12, 02:03
Girl 2 from my recent report claims that she has been attacked at her place in Cavite and now is in hospital. She has turned on YM and I can see her in what appers to look like a hospital room, I can see a curtain behind her a bed with railing and pink fucking walls like its some spanish hacienda which to me is sort of strange. She is in good spirit, I can't see bruises but I can see bandages on her head and her hand including a little cask on her hand. She claims that she needs operation (fractured fingers) that will cost 20K. She asked for help but was not too pushy. She is at our lady of piar hospital in cavite. I can't figure this one. Has anyone had something like this before? I don't care too much for her and may repeat in future but if not so no big loss. I am just curious if anyone has had such a show put on for them or if you are local does this make sence to you? I would love to know if this is for real or am I being played?I don't think you're being played. It's too much of a hassle to play you for 20t she'll have to split it with other players. The minimum wage nowadays is about 10t pesos a month. Why don't you inquire as to the circumstances of her injury to allay your fears?
Monseignor
06-24-12, 03:02
I'm trying to come up with a bottom line figure for one term at a public university, including tuition and fees. I've been able to find figures for private colleges but nothing for public schools. I know these vary according to the program. I'm trying to get a figure for lower end programs like teaching or caregiving at a regional public college. (Interestingly, I've heard that programs like HRM and Tourism actually cost more.) One young lady I met on DIA said her term at the teacher's college costs about 10K pesos. Does that sound reasonable? Thanks.
BTW, I don't want to touch off a whole series of posts warning me about sending "tuition" money to girls on the dating sites. That's not what I have in mind. I mentioned the DIA girl just because she mentioned a figure and that's the only solid bit of info I have.Tuition in the Philippines depends on what course and what school they go to. The top ones like you. P. Lasalle ateneo etc. Have a tuition of about 150t a year while the affordable or budget ones about 30t a year. All the receipts are itemized of course plus almost all the universities have websites where you can inquire as to the authenticity of the information you are receiving. This does not include living expenses, books, etc. The most expensive ones are for doctoral degrees (medical doctors) wherin some schools charge a "donation" to assure a slot for you and where there are many miscellanous expenses example:cat in formaldehyde for study. There are also state universities that charge nothing depending on your qualifications. 10t is cheap its probably a provincial college.
Wicked Roger
06-24-12, 04:33
I live and work in Dubai and the way we bring filipinas here will probably work for any other location. We use escort service (no, not hot girls that follow you around). It's someone who works at the airport and has connections. Such person for around $700-$800 will guarantee that filipina will pass immigration and into the boarding area. I work with a filipina travel agent here in Dubai through whom I'm getting visas. She knows a few escorts. And while passing immigration is not 100-successful from the first try, one can always re-book the ticket for next day and try again. In worst case if the girl cannot pass the escort money is fully refunded.Am surprised to hear that as at Manila airport the system is now set up to avoid escorts (unless you are talking about Dubai here which I know very well)
Escorts were phased out in theory a while ago (to try and reduce corruption in that area) and certainly I can see this cannot happening now as banned from being in the immigration hall and is hard to be an escort in the queue to passport control.
So unless I am mistaken and my intel is completely wrong (which it could be) best check as the travel agent as maybe ripping you off a lot.
Escorts were used a long time back and I saw them in the airport. But I see none now
Am surprised to hear that as at Manila airport the system is now set up to avoid escorts (unless you are talking about Dubai here which I know very well)
Escorts were phased out in theory a while ago (to try and reduce corruption in that area) and certainly I can see this cannot happening now as banned from being in the immigration hall and is hard to be an escort in the queue to passport control.
So unless I am mistaken and my intel is completely wrong (which it could be) best check as the travel agent as maybe ripping you off a lot.
Escorts were used a long time back and I saw them in the airport. But I see none nowI think for $700 you could buy the exit, I am told the girl can pay direct at the airport it is only $200-$300 (10, 000 peso) , how they direct the girl to pay I am not sure so for $700 she will be looked after sounds ok
Can't believe I am using the free WiFi at Singapore Changi to cam with DIA girls.
I think for $700 you could buy the exit, I am told the girl can pay direct at the airport it is only $200-$300 (10, 000 peso) , how they direct the girl to pay I am not sure so for $700 she will be looked after sounds okDear All.
I have tried to get my long time GF who was in Duabi for over 5 years on visit visa this month and it was hell. This is what I can share with you. Hope it will help.
01. WR is correct. Manila airport is no go for escort
02. Under the table money or payment is expencive in manila
03. IF you pass the immiration still you have a chance to off load. There is a new team appointed by the gov. (Human trafficing investigation team) who will re check the papers and they can off load anyone.
Best ia CEBU. I paid 35000 peso under the table to get her to Dubai and she is here now. But you need to have a contact. When she was at the airport 25 filipina to Dubai was off loaded.
WTF
I think for $700 you could buy the exit, I am told the girl can pay direct at the airport it is only $200-$300 (10, 000 peso) , how they direct the girl to pay I am not sure so for $700 she will be looked after sounds okI think some of you fellows are living in the past, and you are just repeating stories that someone told someone who told someone.
The BoI is now very serious about erasing airport scams.
The Commissioner has installed CCTV surveillance on every window.
My friend who is a Provincial Governor tells me he can no longer get his friends through the visa checks as before with the magic envelope. His flunkies now have to run the gauntlet and take their chances.
If anyone has any RECENT personal anecdotes (and I mean within the past 2 months) of being asked for money at Immigration then please tell. If it is earlier than April then I suggest it doesn't hold any more.
Wicked Roger
06-24-12, 15:40
I think some of you fellows are living in the past, and you are just repeating stories that someone told someone who told someone.
The BoI is now very serious about erasing airport scams.
The Commissioner has installed CCTV surveillance on every window.
My friend who is a Provincial Governor tells me he can no longer get his friends through the visa checks as before with the magic envelope. His flunkies now have to run the gauntlet and take their chances.
If anyone has any RECENT personal anecdotes (and I mean within the past 2 months) of being asked for money at Immigration then please tell. If it is earlier than April then I suggest it doesn't hold any more.RK.
We may not agree on cricket LOL but I do agree with your post, this is a no brainer Usexpat35 and whoever is charging you cash for visa escorts is simply taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and laughing all the way to his / her bank account.
Having been through Manila and Cebu immigration recently, I can state there is no way escorts can get to the officer's counters, there are signs also and if cameras as well then this will stop the practice.
Usexpat35. As RK said lets have the anecdotal evidence please. Or maybe ask the agent for his methods and say you iunderstand that this is no longer the case and ask for your cash back (good luck with that one!)
If they have a genuine visa etc, there is no issue and many agents in the UAE can provide this with supporting documents to help the girl with immigraion
Date In Asia has now introduced a requirement to have a photo on your profile or else you can send only one message every 6 hours.
I don't have a photo and do not plan to add one, unless I decide to use Brad Pitt or George Clooney but they are poor imitations of the real me (insert smiley here)
I will be changing to another site now.
Just a heads-up for those who haven't caught up with the changes.
I think some of you fellows are living in the past, and you are just repeating stories that someone told someone who told someone.
The BoI is now very serious about erasing airport scams.
The Commissioner has installed CCTV surveillance on every window.
My friend who is a Provincial Governor tells me he can no longer get his friends through the visa checks as before with the magic envelope. His flunkies now have to run the gauntlet and take their chances.
If anyone has any RECENT personal anecdotes (and I mean within the past 2 months) of being asked for money at Immigration then please tell. If it is earlier than April then I suggest it doesn't hold any more.Yes I do admit I am working with 6-12 months news, no one I know has updated me in the last 2 months.
With the bar raids in cebu and people who went through BI with gf getting 3rd degree, nothing would suprise me. But hey who every wants to gamble $700 buyer beware, this is a sex forum.
Am surprised to hear that as at Manila airport the system is now set up to avoid escorts (unless you are talking about Dubai here which I know very well)
Escorts were phased out in theory a while ago (to try and reduce corruption in that area) and certainly I can see this cannot happening now as banned from being in the immigration hall and is hard to be an escort in the queue to passport control.
So unless I am mistaken and my intel is completely wrong (which it could be) best check as the travel agent as maybe ripping you off a lot.
Escorts were used a long time back and I saw them in the airport. But I see none nowNo, I'm not talking about Dubai (it's not needed once the girl arrives). I doubt it's a scam because I just contacted another filipina friend of mine, who recently went to work for a travel agency and she confirmed that the practice is still going on. Also, whenever I use escort I don't need to submit invitation or guarantee letter or even "red ribbon".
Anybody esle can weigh in on this?
No, I'm not talking about Dubai (it's not needed once the girl arrives). I doubt it's a scam because I just contacted another filipina friend of mine, who recently went to work for a travel agency and she confirmed that the practice is still going on. Also, whenever I use escort I don't need to submit invitation or guarantee letter or even "red ribbon".
Anybody esle can weigh in on this?When was the last time you got a girl to go through, the last girl I know was in jan and as RK pointed out it has changed since then.
Wicked Roger
06-25-12, 19:43
When was the last time you got a girl to go through, the last girl I know was in jan and as RK pointed out it has changed since then.USex.
Escort = someone physically going to the immigration counter as happened until some time last year.
Now it DOES NOT HAPPEN. Go to Manila and / or Cebu airports and see for yourself.
Now. With regard to Dubai travel agents, they will tell heaps of crap to justify a huge fee as you will look to them as a cash cow. Trust me on this. I know many agents in Dubai and have recommended some to friends for visas. They will do all the paperwork, the visa is legitimate, and will call the girl and make sure she has all the supporting papers so when questioned there is a minimal chance she will be offloaded. In other words, she is 'trained' and is told of the risks of not answering the right way etc.
So no escorts but you are paying for their 'expertise'. If they mention escorts again PM the nams and will gladly call them for and tell them they are taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Pinoys will rip of pinoys as is second nature given that corruption is so endemic in theier own country.
However if you are a Dubai resident, apply for a visa yourself and see how cheap it is and how easy. Pay a refundable deposit and give her the visa. I know many who have done this for their pinays and it work. One friend (USG man) took 20 minutes! Cost AED 700 and an AED 2000 refundable deposit.
Even better go to Manila and return with her and be with her in immigration. That has 2 purposes. First you go to the counter together so you are with her, have the 'right' passport and a Dubai resident visa in it. Second you will see no escorts and the immigration officers being tough as they no longer earn cash and are jealous of those who are trying to get away.
Date In Asia has now introduced a requirement to have a photo on your profile or else you can send only one message every 6 hours.
I don't have a photo and do not plan to add one, unless I decide to use Brad Pitt or George Clooney but they are poor imitations of the real me (insert smiley here)
I will be changing to another site now.
Just a heads-up for those who haven't caught up with the changes.I have noticed this change too and will not up-load a picture too. It is a pain in the neck with this 6 hours waiting rule for non photo profiles! Any recommendations for a good alternative foc dating websites not requiring a photo on the profile?
When was the last time you got a girl to go through, the last girl I know was in jan and as RK pointed out it has changed since then.It was in March this year. But, like Wicked Roger explained, I must have gotten shafted. Nevertheless, I feel sorta happy to know that now I can do this without paying AED2, 700 and get pretty much same result.
guys.
i had the misfortune to meet annecol on dia (that is her profile name). i am in cebu and have been using a bit of a rep001ter gun approach (not my usual style) to meet as many contacts as possible and so far it has worked well. however i met this girl yesterday at sm mall in cebu city only to find it was a %$# ing guy.
she arrived an hour late, dressed up and difficult to tell until she (it) spoke and that barely perceptable huskiness gave it away immediately. i challenged her within 60 seconds of meeting and she denied being a boy. however when i persisted and she saw me getting visibly irritated she confessed.
when i asked why she had not been honest and told me before we had arranged to meet, her reply was. wait for it."sorry i forgot"
within two minutes of meeting i gave her some pretty caustic remarks, turned around and walked briskly away, leavng her loking very embarrased.
normaly i view girls on cam (not always infallible) and as an experienced monger it goes to show that we can all make mistakes.
That one contacted me on May 31st, but I told it, that I am looking for girls who want to get laid.
Never heard back afterwards.
At least it did not make it to your room like one I met at Mango Square. But from the photo I can see where you would be slickered.
I've chatted a few times with a young lady on DIA. I'm not that interested in her but she pursues me. Last night I got a panicked message from her on YM. She went home to visit family and now doesn't have the money to get back. According to her story, they live in a squatters camp and it's dangerous. I knew she wanted me to offer her money. I didn't bite. I have a standard rule not to send money to anyone for any reason. About a half our later I get another call:
Marly: I crazy here! It squators place. Drug dealers here. It so dangerous!
Wazoo: I'm really sorry you are in this mess.
Marly: Ok, you help me ok. I do anything ok. I go cam. I show you my body, ok? All my body. Just give money, ok?
[long pause]
Wazoo: How are you able to message me in a squatters camp? Do you have internet there?
[long pause]
Marly: I in shopping mall now. I come for free internet.
Wazoo: How will you show me your body in the shopping mall?
[very long pause]
Marly: Ok I go get something eat now. Bye.
Hmmm. She has a laptop and money to eat in the shopping mall. Somehow the oh-my-god-I'm-stuck-in-a-dangerous-squatters-camp story seems rather thin. The story probably works for nice guys new to the scene. Many thanks to the posters on this board for helping me develop skeptical ears. I get many, many calls like this from DIA girls. Some of the stories are convincing, and some of them may actually be true.
There are "nice" girls to be met in Cherry Blossoms (CB) FH and such. Which is just the problem sometimes! I met and chatted with this girl 2-3 years ago. I kinda pushed her away because she had a good (junior level) government job, and clearly needed (was going to hold out for) a man to marry her (not a fuck and run). She kept chatting with me from time to time, and when she saw I was in Makati this week, she pretty much insisted I meet her in the afternoon at Havana Cafe.
A very unusual Filipina. This girl stands nearly 5'9" tall, and no she is not a Lima bravo. She is all-girl, a sweet soft voice, and a lovely soft face, slightly chubby cheeks that I find appealing. She will need to watch her weight being so tall. If she dropped 5-10 lbs she could be a 'model' certainly although her legs may be a bit too thick!
She said she only met two western guys through CB, perhaps because of her height and having a good job. Recently a man came to meet her and she has hopes he will sponsor her on a fiance visa. He spent 5 days with her and she says she didn't have sex with him! She is 27yo he is 57 yo but he tells her he loves her and she can do whatever she wants. So who knows? She is a 'catch' to be sure, but I believe I was right to pass on her. I would have made a pass at her when I met her, but when I heard the "5 days and no sex" thing I scratched that. Still, a nice conv with a genuine girl (and her friend) and perhaps she will send me a referral later. Building some good karma here.
Member #4491
06-27-12, 12:52
She said she only met two western guys through CB, perhaps because of her height and having a good job. Recently a man came to meet her and she has hopes he will sponsor her on a fiance visa. He spent 5 days with her and she says she didn't have sex with him!Isn't she really saying that she wants <I anyone</I to sponsor her on a fiance visa, and THEN she will spread her legs? Females all have different levels of qualifiers. Hers is higher than 5 days on a beach, but she is talking to you so obviously she is not out of reach. If she walked into that beach trip with the slightest indications of sex, she is a softer version of another scammer IMHO. Not saying what kind of woman she is but a lying wh*re is worse than a honest one. Treat her as she deserves. Your karma only suffers if she is really an honest person that you lure into bed.
Barba
I agree with Barba. Wanting a fiancee visa and having sex with somebody (else) are totally different things. Rational versus attraction. If she sees you either as relationship material or just as a friend (but not attracted to you) she will hold up the "good girl" play. She spreads her legs for a visa, others for pesos. Whats the difference?
On DIA I met a virgin girl of 25, after 3 weeks of chat she is willing to sleep with me for free, just to experience the sex and its feelings! This is what she wrote to me on dia.
" I always envy those girls who enjoy sex. I wanted to experience it too. Thats why I am looking for a stranger who is willing to devirginized me and make me feel the urge. If it is you then we'll see ""
It is too good to belive, what you say, is there any trap on it?
Have you people ever experienced like this?
She never mentioned money to me, she is having a regular well paid job,
Look forward to hear yr expert opinion.
TMT
DIA are strict, so if it's in a DIA profile it must be true. Also I hear they plan to ISO certify all their LBs. Quite a task, but after all it's a free site committed to give you value for money! Happy deflowering.
On DIA I met a virgin girl of 25, after 3 weeks of chat she is willing to sleep with me for free, just to experience the sex and its feelings! This is what she wrote to me on dia.
" I always envy those girls who enjoy sex. I wanted to experience it too. Thats why I am looking for a stranger who is willing to devirginized me and make me feel the urge. If it is you then we'll see ""
It is too good to belive, what you say, is there any trap on it?
Have you people ever experienced like this?
She never mentioned money to me, she is having a regular well paid job,
Look forward to hear yr expert opinion.
TMT
On DIA I met a virgin girl of 25, after 3 weeks of chat she is willing to sleep with me for free, just to experience the sex and its feelings! This is what she wrote to me on dia.
" I always envy those girls who enjoy sex. I wanted to experience it too. Thats why I am looking for a stranger who is willing to devirginized me and make me feel the urge. If it is you then we'll see ""
It is too good to belive, what you say, is there any trap on it?
Have you people ever experienced like this?
She never mentioned money to me, she is having a regular well paid job,
Look forward to hear yr expert opinion.
TMTI have had a virgin girl from Zamboanga. She was 18 years old. She did not say like your girl said. This girl said she will come and meet me in Manila. If she likes me she will have sex with me. I played it cool.
Ofcourse sex happened and she kind of fell in love with me. We did meet few times after that. Ofcourse I did give her some money and gifts.
Happy to say right now she is in england married to a Brit.
Your girl asking you to deflower her so that she can start having sex sounds fishy. Very rare girl who is 25 year old remaining virgin in Phi. Could be a ladyboy?
Anyway try to meet her if she is real. I would meet her just for lunch and see. You can get a feel about it after meeting and talking. If she still wants to come to your room take her. After after sex you will know if she indded a virgin.
Be aware that there are scams where virgins have complained to the police that guy promised to marry her and that is why she gave up her virginity. Usually this involves money.
But if she a good job and money maybe couple of dates without sex is in order before you get into her pants.
No girl just comes out and says " Take my virginity please "
I do not know how many virgins I have had in the Philippines over the years.
Some have met with me purely for the purpose of sharing their hymen with a guy who she trusts and will be thoughtful and careful. Both of these were stunners, one waited till she was 18 before coming to meet me in Angeles. About an hour later, she said that she had to go back to Manila.
A week later, she started work in a high end Japanese bar in Manila.
Most have met, and then decided that I was the one, I guess because they see me as being kind and thoughtful.
But I am not looking in the dating sites for short time boom boom. I am looking for relationship, and they are looking for the same.
So they are there, and often they are just looking for the right guy.
G
I have had a virgin girl from Zamboanga. She was 18 years old. She did not say like your girl said. This girl said she will come and meet me in Manila. If she likes me she will have sex with me. I played it cool.
Ofcourse sex happened and she kind of fell in love with me. We did meet few times after that. Ofcourse I did give her some money and gifts.
Happy to say right now she is in england married to a Brit.
Your girl asking you to deflower her so that she can start having sex sounds fishy. Very rare girl who is 25 year old remaining virgin in Phi. Could be a ladyboy?
Anyway try to meet her if she is real. I would meet her just for lunch and see. You can get a feel about it after meeting and talking. If she still wants to come to your room take her. After after sex you will know if she indded a virgin.
Be aware that there are scams where virgins have complained to the police that guy promised to marry her and that is why she gave up her virginity. Usually this involves money.
But if she a good job and money maybe couple of dates without sex is in order before you get into her pants.
No girl just comes out and says " Take my virginity please "
Asian Rain
06-30-12, 19:20
On DIA I met a virgin girl of 25, after 3 weeks of chat she is willing to sleep with me for free, just to experience the sex and its feelings! This is what she wrote to me on dia.
" I always envy those girls who enjoy sex. I wanted to experience it too. Thats why I am looking for a stranger who is willing to devirginized me and make me feel the urge. If it is you then we'll see ""
It is too good to belive, what you say, is there any trap on it?
Have you people ever experienced like this?I have experienced exactly this from a 29yo chubby girl who said she was a tutor. I wasn't in Manila at the time and wasn't able to hook up. 3 days later she starts sending me messages begging for money for some emergency. Fortuitous that I was away. She has popped up subsequently under different IDs. Scammer. Whatever is too good to be true in the Philippines is exactly that: too good to be true. No girl just offers up her cherry like that. Enjoy, AsianRain
Asian Rain
06-30-12, 19:35
http://www.dateinasia.com/wetgirl
Was cruising the DIA photos and came across this girl I did a couple months ago. Been there. Done that. She is fully pro mode now as she is posting her real number in her profile.
She was pretty crappy in bed, but had a nice little body with A-cup tits and rock-hard ass. No baby. Not worth repeating due to average performance, so sharing the love with the forum. Took p1200 for the short time including pics. Seems to live near Malate, so easy for hookups for guys staying in the Hooker Zone. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
Radical Guy
06-30-12, 22:51
DIA are strict, so if it's in a DIA profile it must be true. Also I hear they plan to ISO certify all their LBs. Quite a task, but after all it's a free site committed to give you value for money! Happy deflowering.Oh, sure, DIA sends out agents to verify every claim made on their website. Yes, of course we can always be assured that every statement in every profile is the absolute truth! LOL
Stroker Ace88
06-30-12, 23:48
On DIA I met a virgin girl of 25, after 3 weeks of chat she is willing to sleep with me for free, just to experience the sex and its feelings! This is what she wrote to me on dia.
" I always envy those girls who enjoy sex. I wanted to experience it too. Thats why I am looking for a stranger who is willing to devirginized me and make me feel the urge. If it is you then we'll see ""
It is too good to belive, what you say, is there any trap on it?
Have you people ever experienced like this?
She never mentioned money to me, she is having a regular well paid job,
Look forward to hear yr expert opinion.When you meet someone that you like on DIA exchange YM's ASAP. Much easier to chat on YM and you can ask to see her on cam to make sure she looks like her pic. That move will get you around the DIA censorship guidelines and the possibility of having your profile banned (or hers) for rude language or asking for money. On YM most filipinas who are intent on scamming or p4p exchange will come right out and reveal there intentions within the first few chats.
Enjoy the Philippines.
Thanks all for yr comments, I asked her to open the cam on ym, but she refuses saying that she is on her phone only!
Then asked her to send the photo, still no reply, but talked to her on phone, it is femail voice.
Am bit confused about her real intention.
TMT.
When you meet someone that you like on DIA exchange YM's ASAP. Much easier to chat on YM and you can ask to see her on cam to make sure she looks like her pic. That move will get you around the DIA censorship guidelines and the possibility of having your profile banned (or hers) for rude language or asking for money. On YM most filipinas who are intent on scamming or p4p exchange will come right out and reveal there intentions within the first few chats.
Enjoy the Philippines.
Thanks all for yr comments, I asked her to open the cam on ym, but she refuses saying that she is on her phone only!
Then asked her to send the photo, still no reply, but talked to her on phone, it is femail voice.
Am bit confused about her real intention.
TMT.The female you spoke to would be another person, there are no vrgins looking for sex with a stranger online. It cost money to use the Internet here, and even the middle class see Internet as a luxury, we all think it a lb as they use any hook to catch guys like you. They use the information to make another contact and chat you and they have profiled you.
I tell all guys just use Facebook and come here. Dia is just for entertainment, it seems to be useless in Cebu as even the girls I know who use it work all the freelance areas and it easier just to pick the girl you like and just p4p
FreebieFan
07-01-12, 08:50
On DIA I met a virgin girl of 25, after 3 weeks of chat she is willing to sleep with me for free, just to experience the sex and its feelings! This is what she wrote to me on dia.
" I always envy those girls who enjoy sex. I wanted to experience it too. Thats why I am looking for a stranger who is willing to devirginized me and make me feel the urge. If it is you then we'll see ""
It is too good to belive, what you say, is there any trap on it?
Have you people ever experienced like this?
She never mentioned money to me, she is having a regular well paid job,
Look forward to hear yr expert opinion.
TMTIn past 3 years I've had 3 virgins who gave it up after chatting, then meeting. Depends how you go about it. If you come across as some macho stud, most girls will shy away from you. If oyu come across as decent clean smell good, articulate guy who can make a girl laugh and smile in chat, then theres lots out there for you. All depends on your style. Oh and if you think your looks are good enough. Remember, as WR says, we all magically become Brad Pitt and his better looking brother on arrival in Manila airport. LOL
Thanks all, at last today she came on cam on ym, it seems that her photo in dia was taken 10 years ago!
On cam she appears to be in mid 30s, in any way let me try my luck with her in 2 weeks time fm today, will keep updated.
TMT.
In past 3 years I've had 3 virgins who gave it up after chatting, then meeting. Depends how you go about it. If you come across as some macho stud, most girls will shy away from you. If oyu come across as decent clean smell good, articulate guy who can make a girl laugh and smile in chat, then theres lots out there for you. All depends on your style. Oh and if you think your looks are good enough. Remember, as WR says, we all magically become Brad Pitt and his better looking brother on arrival in Manila airport. LOL
Thanks all, at last today she came on cam on ym, it seems that her photo in dia was taken 10 years ago!
On cam she appears to be in mid 30s, in any way let me try my luck with her in 2 weeks time fm today, will keep updated.
TMT.If she is in her mid thirties it is extremely doubtfull she is a virgin in Philippines. Maybe some very repressive countries like some moslem countries and others maybe possible.
She could be conning you into her grasp by saying she is a virgin. Just be carefull!
Disagree with the Sammon somewhat. (was that a rhyme?)
Cathalocism can really screw up people's minds. I met a 30ish "virgin" and she was stiff as a board, way fkn scared. And it ruined the mood for me. Mr Dicky didn't like the circumstances so perfomed badly. I do think she was cherry, and she was cherry when we parted ways. Poor girl, she really wanted to turn a new leaf.
If she is in her mid thirties it is extremely doubtfull she is a virgin in Philippines. Maybe some very repressive countries like some moslem countries and others maybe possible.
She could be conning you into her grasp by saying she is a virgin. Just be carefull!
I tell all guys just use Facebook and come here. Dia is just for entertainment, it seems to be useless in Cebu as even the girls I know who use it work all the freelance areas and it easier just to pick the girl you like and just p4pGood advice for Cebu. Few people I know including my wingman seem to be sticking out in Cebu on DIA over the last 3 months. Are we seeing a change in attitude over there? Few members on the forum who use DIA in Cebu I guess should enlighten us.
Manila DIA is business as usual.
Radical Guy
07-01-12, 20:22
If she is in her mid thirties it is extremely doubtfull she is a virgin in Philippines. Maybe some very repressive countries like some moslem countries and others maybe possible.
She could be conning you into her grasp by saying she is a virgin. Just be carefull!Restoration of the hymen is a very big business in the Philippines. An example of this is a website for hymenoplasty surgery.
http://www.beverlyhills.ph/procedures/hymenoplasty
The hymen restoration surgery can make a woman appear to be a real virgin again. So, all you virgin hunters, be forewarned. Of course, if the girl is dirt poor from the provinces, it is doubtful that she could afford this. Attached is are pictures before and after the surgery.
RG
Good advice for Cebu. Few people I know including my wingman seem to be sticking out in Cebu on DIA over the last 3 months. Are we seeing a change in attitude over there? Few members on the forum who use DIA in Cebu I guess should enlighten us.
Manila DIA is business as usual.I do not use dia I meet girls and they are complaining that biz is slow, guys are driving the prices down, dia is just a escort service where the girls have to pay to use via net cafe, and what gets me is the time guys spend on dia and when you come here it takes no time to pick up a girl with out the wait, the taxi and you get to see her current look.
Restoration of the hymen is a very big business in the Philippines. An example of this is a website for hymenoplasty surgery.
http://www.beverlyhills.ph/procedures/hymenoplasty
The hymen restoration surgery can make a woman appear to be a real virgin again. So, all you virgin hunters, be forewarned. Of course, if the girl is dirt poor from the provinces, it is doubtful that she could afford this. Attached is are pictures before and after the surgery.
RGAny idea how much
Cunning Stunt
07-02-12, 12:15
Attached is are pictures before and after the surgery.
RGMaybe just me, but didn't see much difference between the before and after.
This guy must have the second best job in The Philippines. No prizes for guessing what the best job is.
Any idea how much
Don't think it works so well on male genitalia!
Maybe just me, but didn't see much difference between the before and after.
This guy must have the second best job in The Philippines. No prizes for guessing what the best job is.Lots of older ladies get vagina tightening procedure not to replace hymen. Especially those who naturally have loose pussies and the ones who had few children. Those who have children at an early age or more prone loose pussies. I dated a married girl who was 19 with two children with a very loose pussy. She got married at 16 to high school sweatheart. No wonder the guy did not want to have sex with her. At that time probaly the tightening procedure was not there. After a few meetings I stopped seeing her and she knew the reason. Otherwise a real beauty with big boobs.
As for hymen procedure, I doubt very much lots of girls get this done. Because of the cost only very rich families can afford it. That also only if they are marrying some rich guy who really thinks the girl is a virgin.
Charlie Horse
07-04-12, 01:31
Anybody want to take one for the team?
http://www.dateinasia.com/farmvillejane
Member #4351
07-04-12, 01:37
Anybody want to take one for the team?I feel sorry for her.
I don't think it is particularly fair and honourable to post a link to someone with a facial disability. She will suddenly find a deluge of men visiting her profile on DateInAsia. She won't know (unless someone tells her) that her profile link was posted on ISG. But she will see that many of these men are old, fat, and ugly. Sadly there are some of these men who, through the fortunes of meeting lovely sweet young compliant women in the Philippines, feel it necessary to degrade older women.
KongKing.
Anybody want to take one for the team?
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Someone is a bit too honest! It took me a few moments to figure out what "deciplain" is.
Willing to love not because of other interest with having a good deciplain, loving, honest, caring and the most of all if you marry me, marry my family too!
Stroker Ace88
07-04-12, 06:09
[SNIP]As for hymen procedure, I doubt very much lots of girls get this done. Because of the cost only very rich families can afford it. That also only if they are marrying some rich guy who really thinks the girl is a virgin.Fully agree. Only the richest of the rich top one percent of filipinas would ever consider this type of procedure. The average filipina is worried about loading her phone not paying tens of thousands of pesos (or more) for a cosmetic procedure on her coochie.
Stroker Ace88
07-04-12, 06:41
Anybody want to take one for the team? [SNIP]Mr. Horse you certainly are an a-s-s. I agree with the other comments that posting the link of a filipina who has a disfigurement is pathetic. She already has a tough enough life without you splashing her DIA profile all over a sex website for your amusement. As such you have possibly exposed her to excessive ridicule.
Jackson should remove the link to try and curb any lurker losers who might contact her. She is only trying to find someone. If a filipina does not appeal to you just click NEXT.
Cunning Stunt
07-04-12, 11:40
She will suddenly find a deluge of men visiting her profile on DateInAsia.And the unexpected attention will probably make her day (and possibly week and month). I don't think she has so much of a facial disfigurement (except for a lazy eye) and her problem really is that she is just plain butt ugly. You would think that she would have a more attractive picture that she could have posted if she really wanted to find Mr Right. As it is all she needs is a hump and a set of bells and she would be rocking.
Really, some of you guys ought to lighten up and rediscover your sense of humor. A sex information forum is bound to have some pretty risky and non-PC kidology. I thought CH's post was cruel but quite funny.
WestCoast1
07-04-12, 14:13
Mr. Horse you certainly are an a-s-s.Ya, a job usually reserved for me.
FreebieFan
07-05-12, 01:42
And the unexpected attention will probably make her day (and possibly week and month). I don't think she has so much of a facial disfigurement (except for a lazy eye) and her problem really is that she is just plain butt ugly. You would think that she would have a more attractive picture that she could have posted if she really wanted to find Mr Right. As it is all she needs is a hump and a set of bells and she would be rocking.
Really, some of you guys ought to lighten up and rediscover your sense of humor. A sex information forum is bound to have some pretty risky and non-PC kidology. I thought CH's post was cruel but quite funny.Or maybe she's doing the classic " lets see if you like me when I'm ugly switcharoo" and she's really a stunner with long legs, great tits, and likes to be spanked and wear dog collars etc. She just wants to see who will reply to her with that pic.
After all, doesn't nearly every girl say " I'm beautiful inside and out ".
Or maybe she's doing the classic " lets see if you like me when I'm ugly switcharoo" and she's really a stunner with long legs, great tits, and likes to be spanked and wear dog collars etc. She just wants to see who will reply to her with that pic.
After all, doesn't nearly every girl say " I'm beautiful inside and out ".Haha that's possible too FF.
Many girls do say they are beautiful inside and out but there are also many who persist in responding to comments like "I find you attractive" or "you are pretty" by saying "I am ugly" or "it is just in photos that make me look good because I am nor like that in real (sic)".
These girls are fishing for compliments of course and always love it if you argue about their attractiveness with them. They can be easily convinced they are attractive, especially when they know they are.
I guess it is no different to western women who always think their butt is too big etc. Usually it is LOL.
This response was made to a woman who posted her pic in a dating site (I won't say which one).
No wonder many women think sensible guys who write sensible comments to them are "special" if they get stupid replies like this (from a guy much younger than her) :
"what is your CP # and I will text you and I will give and do everything you want for you to say yes to be my gf and please may I know your CP # and I want you to be my gf and my CP # is 639XXXXXXXX [deleted by me] please text me and I always miss you I love you"
Argelle on DIA asks for personal information and won't appear on cam. Avoid.
http://www.dateinasia.com/argelle
Argelle on DIA asks for personal information and won't appear on cam. Avoid.
http://www.dateinasia.com/argelleMan, we no need to be warned here. If you can't tell this is a ladyboy you should go get your eyes checked.
I created a Facebook account just for mongering. Prior to traveling to Manila I added some new 'friends' and started trading email. Came across two 20 year old girls that were friends with one another and got phone numbers prior to arrival.
After getting to Manila and trading a few text I quickly determined these young ladies were interested in a 'friends with benefits' arrangement. Got the usual 'money for school' explanation. Turns out these girls lived 2+ hours outside of the big city so coordinating the first meet up was a pain in the ass. They were basically 2+ hours late. None of us should be surprised, right? Then the final 'negotiating' phase took forever. After getting fed up with the discussion I proffered 5000p for one pop with Ivy just to move things along. I know, I know. I overpaid especially considering P. Burgos was 500 m away. What can I say? I have a strong preference for non pros and this was clearly their 'pay for play' introduction. Also, neither of these girls had rode a foreigner's cock, nor had these two young things 'shared' the same cock. I felt a strong sense of civic obligation to give these girls such an experience.
A few days later, I did Beuna for another 5,000p. Of course, I also fed these girls.
Net, net it probably wasn't worth it. Way too much hassle for the money. Neither of these girls was spectacular in bed; although, Ivy does have a very nice rack. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 'part time' PI girlfriend remains alluring. Much preferred to a pro or a series of pros.
Anyway, fire away senior mongers. I'm sure I'll get a load of crap about overpaying and driving up prices etc.
Makeupaname
07-10-12, 09:35
If 'negotiating' ended at 5000, where it start 20, 000?
Overpaid / underpaid, what ever. If they agreed to 2k, would you have said no no no, I must pay 5k?
net, net it probably wasn't worth it. way too much hassle for the money. neither of these girls was spectacular in bed; although, ivy does have a very nice rack. nevertheless, the possibility of a 'part time' pi girlfriend remains alluring. much preferred to a pro or a series of pros.
anyway, fire away senior mongers. i'm sure i'll get a load of crap about overpaying and driving up prices etc.since these girls are non-pros in the strictest sense of the word. then it is unlikely that you will drive up prices through the bar girl grapevine. (more effective.
than western union lol)
the question for you is how are you going to handle the future remuneration if you want to drop the prices to a more customary fee. either way keep us.
posted. like you i preferred staying away from the pros when ever possible. (happily married now in the states and don't get out much any more)
good luck & b careful
Man, we no need to be warned here. If you can't tell this is a ladyboy you should go get your eyes checked.Can you recommend a good optician to me?
Can you recommend a good optician to me?Believe me. In Mongering it is not good to have 20-20 vision. You might find fault with all the girls you meet and end up alone. Some ladyboys can fool you. Better chat on cam to make sure it is a girl.
I created a Facebook account just for mongering. Prior to traveling to Manila I added some new 'friends' and started trading email. Came across two 20 year old girls that were friends with one another and got phone numbers prior to arrival.
After getting to Manila and trading a few text I quickly determined these young ladies were interested in a 'friends with benefits' arrangement. Got the usual 'money for school' explanation. Turns out these girls lived 2+ hours outside of the big city so coordinating the first meet up was a pain in the ass. They were basically 2+ hours late. None of us should be surprised, right? Then the final 'negotiating' phase took forever. After getting fed up with the discussion I proffered 5000p for one pop with Ivy just to move things along. I know, I know. I overpaid especially considering P. Burgos was 500 m away. What can I say? I have a strong preference for non pros and this was clearly their 'pay for play' introduction. Also, neither of these girls had rode a foreigner's cock, nor had these two young things 'shared' the same cock. I felt a strong sense of civic obligation to give these girls such an experience.
A few days later, I did Beuna for another 5, 000p. Of course, I also fed these girls.
Net, net it probably wasn't worth it. Way too much hassle for the money. Neither of these girls was spectacular in bed; although, Ivy does have a very nice rack. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 'part time' PI girlfriend remains alluring. Much preferred to a pro or a series of pros.
Anyway, fire away senior mongers. I'm sure I'll get a load of crap about overpaying and driving up prices etc.These are non-pros. So you are not really driving up the prices per se. However these girls do look good and what you gave them is your choice.
I created a Facebook account just for mongering. Prior to traveling to Manila I added some new 'friends' and started trading email. Came across two 20 year old girls that were friends with one another and got phone numbers prior to arrival.
After getting to Manila and trading a few text I quickly determined these young ladies were interested in a 'friends with benefits' arrangement. Got the usual 'money for school' explanation. Turns out these girls lived 2+ hours outside of the big city so coordinating the first meet up was a pain in the ass. They were basically 2+ hours late. None of us should be surprised, right? Then the final 'negotiating' phase took forever. After getting fed up with the discussion I proffered 5000p for one pop with Ivy just to move things along. I know, I know. I overpaid especially considering P. Burgos was 500 m away. What can I say? I have a strong preference for non pros and this was clearly their 'pay for play' introduction. Also, neither of these girls had rode a foreigner's cock, nor had these two young things 'shared' the same cock. I felt a strong sense of civic obligation to give these girls such an experience.
A few days later, I did Beuna for another 5, 000p. Of course, I also fed these girls.
Net, net it probably wasn't worth it. Way too much hassle for the money. Neither of these girls was spectacular in bed; although, Ivy does have a very nice rack. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 'part time' PI girlfriend remains alluring. Much preferred to a pro or a series of pros.
Anyway, fire away senior mongers. I'm sure I'll get a load of crap about overpaying and driving up prices etc.To each his own. Just remember 10 000p normally gets you 6-7 DIA or "non pros" from manila and about 10 from the province where this girls were from. Sometimes you need your ass kicked to return to the real world and realise that you are the one with the money and you are in charge. Why the fuck would you leave negotiations to last second? Also if you said no, I only will pay 1500 or 2000 do you really think they would knock it back and hop on to a bus to go back home?
Mr Enternational
07-10-12, 19:10
Then the final 'negotiating' phase took forever. After getting fed up with the discussion I proffered 5000p for one pop with Ivy just to move things along. I know, I know. I overpaid especially considering P. Burgos was 500 m away. What can I say? I have a strong preference for non pros and this was clearly their 'pay for play' introduction. Also, neither of these girls had rode a foreigner's cock, nor had these two young things 'shared' the same cock.And how do you know that, because that is what they told you? You like non-pros but PAID 1 girl who you assumed to be a non-pro 5K? That one certainly went over my head. Sounds pretty much like the cherry girl scam to me. In black and white, if you exchange money for sex the girl is a prostitute and you are a trick.
Member #4491
07-11-12, 01:30
i created a facebook account just for mongering.you need to see some more girls, mate. these girls would not get my time for free. not said to in any way for me to try to look big or anything, but there are so many pretty non p4p girls to meet in the philippines, so this was imho just a big mistake in several ways. read up here on how to speed date (one on one) and how you are the one that they should impress in order to get your money, even if they are so called girlfriends. you are not in usa / west europe now, so step out of the idea that pussy runs the world and tune in to how it is done in asia. be entertaining but take command.
b.
Undercoverh
07-11-12, 01:41
I created a Facebook account just for mongering. Prior to traveling to Manila I added some new 'friends' and started trading email. Came across two 20 year old girls that were friends with one another and got phone numbers prior to arrival.
After getting to Manila and trading a few text I quickly determined these young ladies were interested in a 'friends with benefits' arrangement. Got the usual 'money for school' explanation. Turns out these girls lived 2+ hours outside of the big city so coordinating the first meet up was a pain in the ass. They were basically 2+ hours late. None of us should be surprised, right? Then the final 'negotiating' phase took forever. After getting fed up with the discussion I proffered 5000p for one pop with Ivy just to move things along. I know, I know. I overpaid especially considering P. Burgos was 500 m away. What can I say? I have a strong preference for non pros and this was clearly their 'pay for play' introduction. Also, neither of these girls had rode a foreigner's cock, nor had these two young things 'shared' the same cock. I felt a strong sense of civic obligation to give these girls such an experience.
A few days later, I did Beuna for another 5, 000p. Of course, I also fed these girls.
Net, net it probably wasn't worth it. Way too much hassle for the money. Neither of these girls was spectacular in bed; although, Ivy does have a very nice rack. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 'part time' PI girlfriend remains alluring. Much preferred to a pro or a series of pros.
Anyway, fire away senior mongers. I'm sure I'll get a load of crap about overpaying and driving up prices etc.You will not get any crap from me, since we all have overpaid for something at one time or another. Hunting for pussy in Asia is a learning experience, and we have all made mistakes. I have been to Quezon Ave in Quezon City and paid 5, 000 at a KTV, so do not feel bad about the cost. It is still cheaper then what you would have paid in the USA My suggestion is to learn from your mistakes and figure out how to get sex without paying for it, or paying very little for it (if you are going to do the online dating stuff).
My suggestion is to discuss with the girl online, in a romantic and loving way, about the girl staying with you in your hotel. If she likes you a lot, or loves you, she will want to stay with you and have sex (they consider it making love) without any exchange of money. If you like her anyway, have a true GFE will be very enjoyable. Of course, take her to dinner, movies, etc, as anyone would do with a girlfriend.
Now, for the downside. Being online meeting girls takes up a lot of your time. If you are just coming to PI for sex and do not want a long term relathionship, it is cheaper and easier to go to Angeles City, Quezon City, and any of the other many places where sex can be had for cheap. For example, in Angeles City, a barfine to take a girl out for 12 hours cost as low as 1, 200 (on A. Santos street). Ohter bar fines at the clubs range from 1, 500 to 3, 000.
I understand your point about not wanting a pro. That is why, in the past, I have had real girlfriends in the PI that I see regularly when I go back to PI. These girls have regular jobs and are looking for a boyfriend from another country. I have never paid them for sex. However, I have taken them to dinner, movies, etc.
Another way to get non-pros is to meet girls on their job (e. G, mall sales clerks, fast food places, etc). I have met several by being their customer in the mall. I am really nice, friendly, I dress nice, I tell them they have a cute smile, etc. I often say,"your boyfriend is so lucky." If they say no boyfriend, then I proceed to tell them I would love to take them to the dinner at jollieBees and the movies (which cost about 700P for the both of us). I find that most Filipinas are very easy to talk to. With women in their 30s and 40s, sex often takes place on the first or second date. With the younger girls (18 to 25) who are non pros, it takes a lot more effort and time. By the 3rd or 4th date, sex takes place. My situtation is different then most, I work in HK and travel to PI many times during the year. So I have time to spend with the girls.
What works for me, will not work for every guy. And, what works for some guys, will not work for me. Find the method that works best for you to obtain GFE sex at no or very little cost.
Here is the great news about the Philippines. According to Wikipedia, "there are an estimated 800,000 women working as prostitutes in the Philippines" Thus, finding sex in PI is really really easy. Plus, there a ton of regular girls (non-pros) of all shapes, ages, and sizes looking for a guy just like you and me -- who do not require payment for sex! I have been going to the PI for the past 25 plus years and I have experienced it first hand. Have fun!
I am sure some of us have had experiences with runners. You know. You barely wipe off the love goo from the first round, and she is already cleand up, dressed, and has her hand out. I have been thinking of a negotiating scheam to avoid this and keep the upper hand and wish to pass it along for other's opinions.
This would apply to FLs and not bar fine girls since you already paid the bar fine. (I suppose yoiu can decide her tip here)
I tend to go more for the FL ladies than the bar fine girls anyways.
My thinking.
I would tell them this after agreeing to price. I will use 1500Peso in this case. I would set a time (Say until 8:30AM) that they must be with me or until I say its ok to go before 8:30. And if you decide to leave before 8:30, that is fine, but then it is I that will decide your fee wheather it be 1 peso or 1500 peso. I figure the money must be locked in the safe so you keep the upper hand. She lives up to her end of the bargan you give her the whole 1500 peso (fair is fair). If not, and your pissed that she is leaving already so soon, then your discretion to pay whatever. This negotiating would be done in a very civil manner as not to distroy the relationship.
Your thoughts?
My suggestion is to discuss with the girl online, in a romantic and loving way, about the girl staying with you in your hotel. If she likes you a lot, or loves you, she will want to stay with you and have sex (they consider it making love) without any exchange of money. If you like her anyway, have a true GFE will be very enjoyable. Of course, take her to dinner, movies, etc, as anyone would do with a girlfriend.
Now, for the downside. Being online meeting girls takes up a lot of your time. If you are just coming to PI for sex and do not want a long term relathionship, it is cheaper and easier to go to Angeles City, Quezon City, and any of the other many places where sex can be had for cheap. For example, in Angeles City, a barfine to take a girl out for 12 hours cost as low as 1, 200 (on A. Santos street). Ohter bar fines at the clubs range from 1, 500 to 3, 000.Undercoverh, thanks for the very well considered response. I think you really captured the essential point. If you're only in the PI for a short time or travel there intermittently then establishing a relationship with a regular girl will be much more difficult. Not impossible; but, definitely more of a challenge.
I would also add targeting younger girls in the 19-21 year old range and offering 'no commitment' for a long term relationship up front, further complicates the situation.
Based on this, I think the best play is to cultivate relationships with regular girls whilst pulling bar girls as needed. Hopefully, I find a regular girl or a semi pro that makes me forget all the rest.
I always think who cares what other mongers pay, if the girl puts up her price because she got 5000 last time I just say next girl please, some girls offer sex for less that month once they get 5000 as rent and utilities are paid and they only need rice money.
The other point is never think a girl is not a pro, if she is online or in a bar she is a pro, and if you think you can bed a a non pro when you visit here you might get a bunny boiler who will stalk you for the rest of you life. Us guys who live here do break in the girls because we can get so many, often our first line after paying for sex is " can you sex my friend who is in town?" so the guys who post here thinking they are hot for finding non pros think about it. To the guy who pays 5000 come to Cebu I know girls who really want to meet you.
FreebieFan
07-11-12, 06:04
Believe me. In Mongering it is not good to have 20-20 vision. You might find fault with all the girls you meet and end up alone. Some ladyboys can fool you. Better chat on cam to make sure it is a girl.And don't forget to call them when they are on cam so you know how the voice sounds. Make an innocent enquiry when she's on cam if she has her phone with her. Then 20 minutes later call. First up she will be happy with a suprise call from overseas, second if she refuses to answer. Maybe its a ladyboy alert.
WestCoast1
07-11-12, 07:07
I always think who cares what other mongers pay, if the girl puts up her price because she got 5000 last time I just say next girl please, some girls offer sex for less that month once they get 5000 as rent and utilities are paid and they only need rice money.Concur F3. Otherwise, she wouldn't be asking for 5000. I just met with a Manila girl. She was recommended by another guy who met her online. She's a bombshell, model material he said from the pics she sent and on cam. My buddy said she was willing to do anything for him, including getting other girls, but she wanted nothing less than 5000. He agreed to that amount, but did not session with her later. In txting this morning before meeting, she mentioned the usual needs, saying she hoped I would give her 5000. We met for coffee in the mall, but she wanted to go right to the hotel. Once in the room, I told her the 5000 was good imagination, and I offered the following:
1000 for naked pics only. 1500 pics + nawty. 2000 if she made me think she was my gf for a while."OK. I want that 2000. Hope you handle me. But I not stay more than 3 hours." That's fine, as that's an hour longer than I usually keep them (such a deal). Admittedly she looks better with clothes on, than off (baby stretch marks) , but holy shit she's energetic. Proof positive that even the lookers are willing to dicker. But there are always guys out there who think the 5000 is the great deal: "Where I come from we pay 10 times that to get her." Yes, and where she comes from, you've now paid 2. 5 times what she's worth.
Mr Enternational
07-11-12, 09:51
2000 if she made me think she was my gf for a while.I like that WC. That is a line that I will definitely start putting to use.
WestCoast1
07-11-12, 10:51
I like that WC. That is a line that I will definitely start putting to use.That can turn a starfish into a horny little DFK'ing devil-ette. Assuming you are prepared to give a tip (often times I don't give anything other than jeep money) , use the tip as leverage: "Your tip depends on how much I feel you become my girlfriend here in the bed. Not just a provider." Woof!
Marconista
07-11-12, 12:26
I need my eyes checked. I cannot see from the picture that this is a Lima Bravo.
How can you Boofa69?
Man, we no need to be warned here. If you can't tell this is a ladyboy you should go get your eyes checked.
WestCoast1
07-11-12, 13:09
I need my eyes checked. I cannot see from the picture that this is a Lima Bravo.
How can you Boofa69?Could be just another pinay?
You will not get any crap from me, since we all have overpaid for something at one time or another. Hunting for pussy in Asia is a learning experience, and we have all made mistakes. I have been to Quezon Ave in Quezon City and I understand your point about not wanting a pro. That is why, in the past, I have had real girlfriends in the PI that I see regularly when I go back to PI. These girls have regular jobs and are looking for a boyfriend from another country. I have never paid them for sex. However, I have taken them to dinner, movies, etc.
What works for me, will not work for every guy. And, what works for some guys, will not work for me. Find the method that works best for you to obtain GFE sex at no or very little cost.
Here is the great news about the Philippines. According to Wikipedia,"there are an estimated 800, 000 women working as prostitutes in the Philippines" Thus, finding sex in PI is really really easy. Plus, there a ton of regular girls (non-pros) of all shapes, ages, and sizes looking for a guy just like you and me. Who do not require payment for sex! I have been going to the PI for the past 25 plus years and I have experienced it first hand. Have fun!All girls require boyfriends to service them off and on. Many girls do not want romantic hassles and readily meet a foreigner who visits once or twice a year.
IMHO none are free. My target group is 18-23. If I want older I do not need to go to Phi. Ofcourse I have chatted with 30 something women who have job and money and offered company to me saying she does not need any money. Phi is only one of the very few dwindling places where older foreign visitors can taste young women non-pros.
If there are young women who will gladly fuck the brains out of an older foreign man without any demands let me know!
I have enjoyed company of many a young women in my target group all non pros. Although few are shy and do not talk about money none have refused when offered. Usually they start of by asking you to bring gifts. Most often asked is camera and cell phone. Camera you can take one cheap. But they know all about cell phones, so better take a good one with all the features.
As for money if the girl satisfies my needs and good company I am going to be generous. I also have a soft spot for desperately poor girls who show up with couple of used dresses and worn out shoes. I have spent 8000 or more to get her a decent wardrobe with shoes, bras, panties and elegant dresses. I am sure some maybe still wearing them. In addition I am generous with money and have sent money monthly too. Ofcourse I have been rewarded every time I go there and stay with them.
Since I like to switch girls often rarely I keep in touch with the same girl more than a year. Luckily for me there is no dearth of good looking young women in Phi.
In my opinion using girls for sex even if they are normal girls and not paying some money and not giving any gifts is not good.
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You will not get any crap from me, since we all have overpaid for something at one time or another. Hunting for pussy in Asia is a learning experience, and we have all made mistakes. I have been to Quezon Ave in Quezon City and I understand your point about not wanting a pro. That is why, in the past, I have had real girlfriends in the PI that I see regularly when I go back to PI. These girls have regular jobs and are looking for a boyfriend from another country. I have never paid them for sex. However, I have taken them to dinner, movies, etc.
What works for me, will not work for every guy. And, what works for some guys, will not work for me. Find the method that works best for you to obtain GFE sex at no or very little cost.
Here is the great news about the Philippines. According to Wikipedia,"there are an estimated 800, 000 women working as prostitutes in the Philippines" Thus, finding sex in PI is really really easy. Plus, there a ton of regular girls (non-pros) of all shapes, ages, and sizes looking for a guy just like you and me. Who do not require payment for sex! I have been going to the PI for the past 25 plus years and I have experienced it first hand. Have fun!All girls require boyfriends to service them off and on. Many girls do not want romantic hassles and readily meet a foreigner who visits once or twice a year.
IMHO none are free. My target group is 18-23. If I want older I do not need to go to Phi. Ofcourse I have chatted with 30 something women who have job and money and offered company to me saying she does not need any money. Phi is only one of the very few dwindling places where older foreign visitors can taste young women non-pros.
If there are young women who will gladly fuck the brains out of an older foreign man without any demands let me know!
I have enjoyed company of many a young women in my target group all non pros. Although few are shy and do not talk about money none have refused when offered. Usually they start of by asking you to bring gifts. Most often asked is camera and cell phone. Camera you can take one cheap. But they know all about cell phones, so better take a good one with all the features.
As for money if the girl satisfies my needs and good company I am going to be generous. I also have a soft spot for desperately poor girls who show up with couple of used dresses and worn out shoes. I have spent 8000 or more to get her a decent wardrobe with shoes, bras, panties and elegant dresses. I am sure some maybe still wearing them. In addition I am generous with money and have sent money monthly too. Ofcourse I have been rewarded every time I go there and stay with them.
Since I like to switch girls often rarely I keep in touch with the same girl more than a year. Luckily for me there is no dearth of good looking young women in Phi.
In my opinion using girls for sex even if they are normal girls and not paying some money and not giving any gifts is not good.
As for money if the girl satisfies my needs and good company I am going to be generous. I also have a soft spot for desperately poor girls who show up with couple of used dresses and worn out shoes.Agreed, Sam. Some girls will get greedy when generosity is displayed but I have found that the province girls are just thrilled to receive gifts like that. I don't normally buy them expensive things, tho. Maybe a nice dress or bikini and of course dinner. I like to bring an assortment of real nice C, D and DD bras with me and see if I can find girls who will fit them. Sort of a modern day monger's version of getting fitted for the glass slipper.
As for money if the girl satisfies my needs and good company I am going to be generous. In my opinion using girls for sex even if they are normal girls and not paying some money and not giving any gifts is not good.This thread about overpaying has produced lots of discussion and I think illustrates the point that members of this board have all sorts of different hopes and agendas. There is a common denominator that all of us are seeking sex with some cute young thing. But some are looking for a long-term relationship, some want shorter-term girlfriends, and some just want no-strings, no-hassles p4p. I've noticed that some of the members who just want p4p reduce everything to a simple ratio of sex vs. Dollars, and then ridicule anyone who "overpays." Speaking personally, after a couple of decades in the hobby, sex with a stranger just no longer has much luster. It's like eating fast food. It fills up an empty stomach but is unsatisfying and leaves me sort of ill afterwards. The Philippines presents a unique opportunity because there's not much language barrier and Filipinas are naturally gregarious and eager to meet foreigners. It's very, very different from my years in China and Japan, where language difficulties and cultural barriers make it difficult to develop real relationships. Right now I'm in an ongoing relationship with a pretty, sweet girl in her 20s. I would never have a shot at a girl like this in the US. She never, ever asks for money, but it's natural for me to send her some because I care about her. She can't find work and is stuck at home watching the nieces and nephews. The little bit I send allows her to have access to the internet and phone to call me and allows her to help her family a bit or enjoy a few little treats for herself. It makes me happy to do it. Of course I know that every time I sent her 50 bucks I could barfine a working girl for a LT session. But that's really beside the point. I'm not looking for a bar-girl experience. But that's just my personal story now. I don't judge guys who are heavy into the bar scene because I know I would have been there years ago. So I'd just like to see a bit more civility on this board. If I can, I'd like to help a fellow monger pursue his dream and not ridicule him because he doesn't follow mine.
Cunning Stunt
07-12-12, 03:10
The subject of payment has been done to death (as has most relevant subjects) on ISG forums so many times over the years. Nobody can arbitrate on what a girl is worth in p4p terms and so it is a totally pointless discussion which will never reach a satisfactory outcome. One guy might view a particular girl as a bargain at 5000 pesos whereas another guy would be loath to 'buy' the same girl for 500. It is all so very subjective. Plus everyone has differing budgets and the visitor who is living on 5000 pesos a day will have different parameters to the one who has 20000 available. What is for sure is that both should have a good time and will be able to find what they are looking for within their budgetary constraints.
I personally have never given more than 3000 for services rendered. And that was for guaranteed superb service with more or less everything available from a girl that I considered to be a ten on my personal Richter scale. And it was worth every centavo. Usually I give on a scale 1500 to 2500 dependent on what is on offer and the looks / quality of the lady. I only do ST liaisons so I imagine the LT rate should be on a scale of 2000-5000.
For a GF freebie, you would, of course, at the end of the day be paying considerably more!
Could be just another pinay?
I need my eyes checked. I cannot see from the picture that this is a Lima Bravo.
How can you Boofa69?
Believe me. In Mongering it is not good to have 20-20 vision. You might find fault with all the girls you meet and end up alone. Some ladyboys can fool you. Better chat on cam to make sure it is a girl.
Can you recommend a good optician to me?
Man, we no need to be warned here. If you can't tell this is a ladyboy you should go get your eyes checked.
Argelle on DIA asks for personal information and won't appear on cam. Avoid.
http://www.dateinasia.com/argelleThe circumferential line around her throat. Genetic males very rarely have that. Still wise to check out via cam though.
Does anyone have any info about this gal. Please pm me. THis is important.
This thread about overpaying has produced lots of discussion and I think illustrates the point that members of this board have all sorts of different hopes and agendas. There is a common denominator that all of us are seeking sex with some cute young thing. But that's just my personal story now. I don't judge guys who are heavy into the bar scene because I know I would have been there years ago. So I'd just like to see a bit more civility on this board. If I can, I'd like to help a fellow monger pursue his dream and not ridicule him because he doesn't follow mine.Fair enough as long as you are fully aware (as you are) of what you are doing. Problem is lots of guys seem believing what the girls say about needing money (endless reasons) and are seeking advice on the forum (that alreay means they have some doubts). One can really send 50 bucks a month and later stay there for a month with the girl, ie spending 600 bucks in 12 months for 1 month of "free" fun. His choice. We often waste more money for much less, so that is not really the issue. Most important is to be aware. Some guys are not, some are unconvinced but want to seek a word of support ("tell me it is true she needs money for the buffalo") to believe a lie.
I share your opinion on the fact fast food example.
Fair enough as long as you are fully aware (as you are) of what you are doing. Problem is lots of guys seem believing what the girls say about needing money (endless reasons) and are seeking advice on the forum (that alreay means they have some doubts). One can really send 50 bucks a month and later stay there for a month with the girl, ie spending 600 bucks in 12 months for 1 month of "free" fun. His choice. We often waste more money for much less, so that is not really the issue. Most important is to be aware. Some guys are not, some are unconvinced but want to seek a word of support ("tell me it is true she needs money for the buffalo") to believe a lie.
I share your opinion on the fact fast food example.Yes, totally agree. It's important to be able to read motives. I'm still a newbie to the Philippines scene, but I found out the hard way about sending money to Filipinas. There are plenty on DIA who see a foreigner as an ATM machine and will bleed you dry if you let that happen. It's easy to spot the pure scammers. More difficult are the ones who let you get involved and then slowly over time increase their expectations. It's difficult to say no because most of these girls live hand-to-mouth and any illness or family problem can create a crisis. Based on my limited experience, I'd say that the best advise is to cut-off the relationship if a girl is constantly trying to worm money out of you. That will only get worse after you actually meet. You can guarantee that every sex act is going to have a specific price tag put on it in terms of gifts or "help" for the family. In my DIA profile I now state very clearly that I will not send money overseas for any reason. That screens out at least some of the greedy ones. The one I'm involved with now has never asked for a dime and will accept only small gifts. In fact, she turned down my offer to help her with tuition "cause I don't want you to think I a gold digger." There are lots of women like her who never ask for anything. As you say, a guy just needs to be full aware. If he has some suspicion that he is being lied to, manipulated, or scammed, he probably is.
Jackson, Sorry if I am bumping this up.
I am hoping to get some civil input to my idea from senior members here. Please see posting 5873. Would it be OK to offer a few words?
Well B Man, I doubt that a couple of thousand pesos a month is ever going to buy you much loyalty. That $600 per year will only pay dividends if she doesn't get a better offer before your return. On the other hand, that $600, or 25, 000 Pesos, will get a lot of interest in hiring a mega-babe 'tour guide' for a month.
The dia gal I mentioned earlier has suddenly added a birthdate to her FB page that makes her a year younger than the age she advertizes on dia. She's trouble.
The dia gal I mentioned earlier has suddenly added a birthdate to her FB page that makes her a year younger than the age she advertizes on dia. She's trouble.All of us who are interested in young babes can be playing Russian roulette. I D's don't really guarantee age is legit. It's easy for girls to acquire fake cards. So, what's a guy to do? I'll ask,"When were you born?" innocently and preferably out of the blue, but there are NO guarantees are there, X?
WestCoast1
07-13-12, 03:00
I personally have never given more than 3000 for services rendered. And that was for guaranteed superb service with more or less everything available from a girl that I considered to be a ten on my personal Richter scale. And it was worth every centavo. Usually I give on a scale 1500 to 2500 dependent on what is on offer and the looks / quality of the lady. I only do ST liaisons so I imagine the LT rate should be on a scale of 2000-5000.An interesting point. On another board, a Filipino wrote in to say that when guys give money to filipinas, whether thru remittance online for her needs, or as a cam girl, or in real life as a bargirl or chatmate when meeting, the amount he is willing to give is related to how she feels about the guy. Not as in if he gives more, she likes him more. Almost the opposite. He said the girls talk (gossip) , and the more a guy is willing to send / give, the more he is seen as weak. I think in american english a correct term for this is 'rube', or someone who is seen as unsophisticated, and an easy 'mark', and to be taken advantage of again in the future. After the idiot sends her the large amount she is asking, she becomes especially nice / loving, hoping to get it again or make it a regular thing in his mind, all the while knowing he is now a mark. On the other hand, the gent who dickers, or gives less, is seen as shrewd, knowledgable about the culture, and respected. She's more likely to meet with him in person, and more likely to give away the goods for less or free, and more likely to be nice or friendly to him 'just because'.
From those of you familiar with Jakarta's WG's, and girls in MBC, I think you already know some of this as truth. If you agree quickly to her wildly high demand of 3000 for ST, she will be more likely to starfish and run after 45 minutes. On the other hand, offer her 2000 for LT and walk away when she says no. If she does come around to your way a bit later, you will get much better service, and she will not be in a rush to put her clothes back on. I have bunches of examples of this. I'd like to believe that I'm a better lover or nicer gent than some of you guys, but I honestly just don't know that. What I do know is that what CS says about his rates (mine are similar) gets me better service from the same girl than as reported by other gents. I've experienced this in multiple times in multiple countries. What the pinoy writer on the other board says about more money given = pretty smile but more disrespect from the girls seems to be true.
I've been chatting on and off with a young woman in Manila for the last couple of months. She's in her late twenties and has gotten a bit chubby after having a baby. However, she still has a beautiful face and a devastating smile. She's also vivacious and is just tons of fun. I commented today about the professional looking (and gorgeous) photos in her FB profile album. She told me that she was once a model and actress. She said it was just B-movies, nothing I'd know. I asked her if she had an example and she directed me to a film trailer on Youtube. It was one of those blood and boobs exploitation films shot in Phils, but was decently crafted with a foreign director and probably had a wide distribution. Sure enough, there she was in all her glory, looking pretty darned hot on screen. Not the star but definitely a major role. She said she did several of these films. So yes, she's moved up to my A-list. And no, I'm not going to share her contact information.
From those of you familiar with Jakarta's WG's, and girls in MBC, I think you already know some of this as truth. If you agree quickly to her wildly high demand of 3000 for ST, she will be more likely to starfish and run after 45 minutes. On the other hand, offer her 2000 for LT and walk away when she says no. If she does come around to your way a bit later, you will get much better service, and she will not be in a rush to put her clothes back on. I have bunches of examples of this. I'd like to believe that I'm a better lover or nicer gent than some of you guys, but I honestly just don't know that. What I do know is that what CS says about his rates (mine are similar) gets me better service from the same girl than as reported by other gents. I've experienced this in multiple times in multiple countries. What the pinoy writer on the other board says about more money given = pretty smile but more disrespect from the girls seems to be true.I agree and have experianced it first hand. I am not sure about the disrespect part but yeah if you agree to all their demands easy its not hard for her to work out that you are into her and that you will tolerate all kind of crap even starfish performance and leaving early. Bottom line is if you are paying for a service then negotiate and make sure you get what you are paying for.
in my dia profile i now state very clearly that i will not send money overseas for any reason. that screens out at least some of the greedy ones. the one i'm involved with now has never asked for a dime and will accept only small gifts. in fact, she turned down my offer to help her with tuition "cause i don't want you to think i a gold digger." there are lots of women like her who never ask for anything.surprise! surprise!
your girl is probably much older, probably trying to make a impression on you, probably just biding her time in order to start making demands?
it does not matter what you or the girl puts in dia profile. i have had several girls ask for help in spite of their profile says she does not want any money.
all young girls want money and never ever refused money offered.
my previous gf did the same thing on first meeting saying i do not want money because i stay with you for love. well, i guess love has a time limit factor. not even a week after i left phi she starts lamenting about her problems about school, lack of money etc asking for help. i said what happened to love and no money? she said because i love her i should help her out and not ask questions. she also said since she gave sex for free i should be generous. i told her she should have taken the money when i offered without giving a campaign speech about how good girls should behave.
i have yet to find a young girl in asia who do not ask money or did not accept money offered. one phi girl said no money to stay with me and just wanted cell phone and my used laptop. since i was buying a tablet i gave it to her and also a nice cell phone. after two days together she started about her financial situation. when i ignored it she came right out and asked me how much i am going to pay. i told her i will give only some money and if she does not want to stay with me she can leave. but they never leave, do they? ultimately she left with gifts and some money i gave.
i am sure if i am going to pork a older 40 something lady maybe no money.
but then it is bad for my ego and an insult to my dick which is hoping to find nice, tight, juicy pussy.
{a guy finds a genie and says he has not had sex for a long time and would love to fuck a girl who has not had sex for a long time like him. he wants a juicy experience. genie says i can grant your wish and produces a 90 year old granny. genie says she has not had sex for a very long time. guy has no choice and starts his adventure. comes back to the genie and thanks him for a wonderfull experience. genie asks him was it a juicy experiene he wanted. he says yes " take out the dentures and fuck with fixodent"}
PolyOrchid
07-13-12, 17:13
But then it is bad for my ego and an insult to my dick which is hoping to find nice, tight, juicy pussy.It's a dance as old as the vicar's dick: we want the pussy, they want the money. If love happens to enter the equation, it changes nothing. Except perhaps I'm a little faster to pull out my wallet.
God bless them all and the rocky road that brought me to the world of lovely pinays.
From a guy who's spent the last 8 months doing stateside hard time.
Surprise! Surprise!
Your girl is probably much older, probably trying to make a impression on you, probably just biding her time in order to start making demands?Sammon, you may be right. Time will tell. After we meet and I come back home, I'll certainly give a full report. If she makes lots of financial demands I'll be the first to admit I was wrong about her. Of course, if she really does become a gf I see on regular trips back, it would be entirely appropriate to help her out a little if she isn't too greedy about it. As for her age, she says she is 23 and my guess is that's pretty close. She may be as old as 25 or 26. I've spent most of my adult life in Asia and am pretty good about estimating ages. The ages of siblings, dates in school, ages of friends in FB etc. All match up.
Mr Enternational
07-13-12, 21:31
All young girls want money and never ever refused money offered.Maybe all young girls will want money from a man who is much older, but not from someone within a certain age range. You say they have never refused money like that is something. I have money, but if you are giving some away then I'm not going to be one to turn it down. Why would I?
Maybe all young girls will want money from a man who is much older, but not from someone within a certain age range. You say they have never refused money like that is something. I have money, but if you are giving some away then I'm not going to be one to turn it down. Why would I?We are talking about older men looking for young girls in Phi. Ofcourse if the man is young there may not be a demand for money. Then it just becomes regular dating thing.
I was just replying to another report where he says his GF never wanted money and refused money. Do not know his age or if he promised to marry her?
Mr Enternational
07-14-12, 03:54
A pinay clicked interest on me in a pay site. I sent an email and got a response back. In the salutation was the name I had given her but in the second paragraph she addresses me as Steve and writes that it is my great pleasure and honor to read your message. No real person talks like that. LOL. Must be a damn scammer.
Hello (mrenternational) ,
Hope that you are well and in the best of everything and in good health. Thanks for the message that you sent here, it is my great pleasure and honor to read your message this early morning my time, I am in the best of everything here and in good health, although we had a bad weather, it rained here 3 days ago and the weather forecast said that there were typhoon coming. Thank you for the yahoo messenger, do you have email personal address? And and what kind of relationship you are looking for in this site?
Steve, I am looking for a sincere and serious relationship possible for getting acquainted with that person, know him and grown him with love and affections. I know that it is nice to have someone whom can get you inspired and comfort during the time that you are down and weary. I believe that on my own views no man or woman in an island, every creatures here in this world including human beings needs friends, lover and even partner in life, to talk and to share with the ups and down in life.
I just hope that you will give me a chance to know you as well, I am very much interested to know you, I need to know you because I feel that you are a good person to know with. For now I must go because I have to finish my laundry, I will always looking forward your email here again.
Take care always, sincerely yours. Lanie
A pinay clicked interest on me in a pay site. I sent an email and got a response back. In the salutation was the name I had given her but in the second paragraph she addresses me as Steve and writes that it is my great pleasure and honor to read your message. No real person talks like that. LOL. Must be a damn scammer.She is just doing what most of us do Mr E.
We all have a pro-forma post and all that is required is to change the greeting and maybe adjust a few details.
Sometimes they, like us, screw up and hit "send" before the edit is complete.
One way to tell when a woman has several guys on the go at once is she will use "baby" or "babes" or "honey" or "dear" in chats with you so that she doesn't need to remember your name in case she stuffs up. The woman who uses your name earnestly and correctly is rather rare on most chat sites (IMHO)
Wicked Roger
07-14-12, 08:27
She is just doing what most of us do Mr E.
We all have a pro-forma post and all that is required is to change the greeting and maybe adjust a few details.
Sometimes they, like us, screw up and hit "send" before the edit is complete.
One way to tell when a woman has several guys on the go at once is she will use "baby" or "babes" or "honey" or "dear" in chats with you so that she doesn't need to remember your name in case she stuffs up. The woman who uses your name earnestly and correctly is rather rare on most chat sites (IMHO) One of my good friends calls all the girls 'Princess" as he screwed up badly with his then live in (called her the wrong name while shagging!) and so now he calls all the girls that name. They like it, they think it isa very 'special' name and he does not get grief anymore or screw up
Wolvenvacht
07-14-12, 10:03
A pinay clicked interest on me in a pay site. I sent an email and got a response back. In the salutation was the name I had given her but in the second paragraph she addresses me as Steve and writes that it is my great pleasure and honor to read your message. No real person talks like that. LOL. Must be a damn scammer.Hehehe, I must go there and teach them computer programming and database design. Then they can write automated templates that answer correctly and even send out "distress" messages from time to time to keep the money flowing. It takes a lot of bookkeeping not to kill off your same grandmother several times for the same sponsor. Some database programming will avoid all these awkward situations.
LOL. You could teach me also. I use a lot of "cut and paste". It's just a numbers game to keep the cheap young poontang flowing.
Hehehe, I must go there and teach them computer programming and database design. Then they can write automated templates that answer correctly and even send out "distress" messages from time to time to keep the money flowing. It takes a lot of bookkeeping not to kill off your same grandmother several times for the same sponsor. Some database programming will avoid all these awkward situations.
One of my good friends calls all the girls 'Princess" as he screwed up badly with his then live in (called her the wrong name while shagging!) and so now he calls all the girls that name. They like it, they think it isa very 'special' name and he does not get grief anymore or screw upThat's my trick, just go to any disco in Cebu and call out princess and see how many girls turn to look, I need to start using a new name like "mine"
That's my trick, just go to any disco in Cebu and call out princess and see how many girls turn to look, I need to start using a new name like "mine"The funny thing about "Princess" is that many girls are actually named "princess" at birth. I know at least 2.
Manny Pacquiao, the boxer, has a daughter called Princess but also his youngest is called (wait for it) Queen Elizabeth or Queenie (no WR, not that Queenie).
Filipino names are an endless source of amusement for me (Bing, Bong, Ding, Ping, Bong bong, Apple, Peachy, Annunciation, Purificacion, Luzviminda (after Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao) etc etc
Wicked Roger
07-15-12, 12:05
Filipino names are an endless source of amusement for me (Bing, Bong, Ding, Ping, Bong bong, Apple, Peachy, Annunciation, Purificacion, Luzviminda (after Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao) etc etcI agree RK, I have met a Lucozade (because her parents loved the taste. So did I LOL) , Dong Bong (a professional personal trainer) and a Cadbury (same reason as Lucozade).
I do my best to smile without showing amusement but at times it is hard.
Maybe we should call them 'Sweetheart" or "Beautiful" but am sure some are named that as well
Wolvenvacht
07-15-12, 12:14
LOL. You could teach me also. I use a lot of "cut and paste". It's just a numbers game to keep the cheap young poontang flowing.No no. For them it is a job and a source of income. For us the thrill is in the hunt! And besides the "name her Princess" trick will solve 99% of all our problems.
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Beatracy on DIA is a feisty one.
The invitation is there boys. I won't be standing in your way.
Undercoverh
07-16-12, 04:16
All girls require boyfriends to service them off and on. Many girls do not want romantic hassles and readily meet a foreigner who visits once or twice a year.
IMHO none are free. My target group is 18-23. If I want older I do not need to go to Phi. Ofcourse I have chatted with 30 something women who have job and money and offered company to me saying she does not need any money. Phi is only one of the very few dwindling places where older foreign visitors can taste young women non-pros.
If there are young women who will gladly fuck the brains out of an older foreign man without any demands let me know!
I have enjoyed company of many a young women in my target group all non pros. Although few are shy and do not talk about money none have refused when offered. Usually they start of by asking you to bring gifts. Most often asked is camera and cell phone. Camera you can take one cheap. But they know all about cell phones, so better take a good one with all the features.
As for money if the girl satisfies my needs and good company I am going to be generous. I also have a soft spot for desperately poor girls who show up with couple of used dresses and worn out shoes. I have spent 8000 or more to get her a decent wardrobe with shoes, bras, panties and elegant dresses. I am sure some maybe still wearing them. In addition I am generous with money and have sent money monthly too. Ofcourse I have been rewarded every time I go there and stay with them.
Since I like to switch girls often rarely I keep in touch with the same girl more than a year. Luckily for me there is no dearth of good looking young women in Phi.
In my opinion using girls for sex even if they are normal girls and not paying some money and not giving any gifts is not good.First, let me say that I do not disagree with your approach. Also, I am not trying to put down how you go about getting girls. If your approach works for you, that is good. As I stated in my preivous post, different methods work for different guys. My approach is simple, I date like a local guy. After going to PI for the past 25 years, here is what I have learned and live by:
1. Let me be clear about a simple point. If I am going to a hooker, I will pay her. If I am going to date a Filipina as my gf, then I will not be throwing money at her. But many guys are confused about this point. They meet a girl online, come to PI, spend several hundred dollars on her (cloths, cell phones, etc), have sex with the girl and think somehow, it is not Pay-4-Play. Bare in mind, these girls are not dump. You will not be the only Western guy she will be meeting during the year that will be giving her money, cloths, cell phones, etc. As for me, I refuse to play that game.
2. When a guy from the Philippines meets a filipina and they start dating, the guy does not feel the need to spend 8, 000 (as you stated) on the girl. When guys and girls in the Philippines date, they simply go out on dates (e. G, movies, Jolliebees, hang out at the mall, etc). So, why do older guys from another country feel the need to give these same girls lots of money, cloths, etc. Thse girls would not expect it from the local guy in the same situation.
3.The simple fact is, if the girl really likes you, she will stay with you even if you did not give her money, cloths etc. Of course, just as in a date situation, take them to the movies, Jolliebees, etc. If the girl is with you just for the money, then yes -- you will need to give her all the gifts for her to be with you and have sex with you. As for me, when I go out on a date, I actually enjoy it as much as the girl does. I like going to the movies, to a club, out to eat with my gf. Therefore, the money I spend for that, I am spending for the both of us and I get a lot of enjoyement out of it. To me, I am not paying her when I pay for our movies, our dinner, etc. It is just like when we were young and going on dates in our own country.
4.If I am going to pay for sex, then I will go to a hooker. If I want to be in a real GFE relathionship, then I will not be throwing money at her. Again, I will treat her like a GF. That is movies, going out, etc. Just like a local guy in the Philippines would date a filipina.
I agree with you statement that "Phi is only one of the very few dwindling places where older foreign visitors can taste young women non-pros." I have been to most of the places in Asia and the Philippines is my number one choice. With more than 800, 000 hookers in PI (according to Wikipedia) and tons of regular girls looking for guys like you and me, PI is has an endless supply of women for us.
I like Filipinas of all ages, sizes, and shapes. It depends on my mood and the girl. I have met some really horny, sweet, sexy filipinas in their 30s that really know how to provide a real GFE and love making. And, I have date 18 yo and 40, 50 plus Filipinas over the years. However, I have never just givien them money or purchased a lot of stuff for them. Why, because I do not need to and it is not required by the girl. They are with me becasue they really want to be with me. This is what I call "date like a local guy." The local guys from the Philippines would not dream of treating these girls the way Western guys treat Filipinas.
You had stated,"If there are young women who will gladly fuck the brains out of an older foreign man without any demands let me know!" By demands, if you mean money, then most young girls will only fuck older men for money. Payment by direct means or by purchasing stuff for the girl. But, then she is really just a hooker in my book. If she will not have sex with me unless I pay her or buy her stuff, then it is Pay 4 Play.
By demands, if you mean she wants to marry me, have a family one day, etc, then that is a natural demand a women will make if she really loves the guy. I regard that deman as reasonable. Why, if she is a non-pro and she is going to fuck my brains out, and she knows I am not going to throw money at her, then she is doing it becasue she feels love for me and wants a future with me.
I must be clear, since I go to PI many times each year (since I work in HK) , I date Filipinas on regular basis in a real girlfriend boyfriend relathionship. So, my situation is different then most guys. What workes for me, may not work for you or other guys. Each guy should stick to the method that works for him. Again, I am not putting down your approach, I am just saying your appraoch is not my style and how I deal with Filipinas.
One last point. When I was in the Service and first went to the PI more than 25 years ago, Filipinas were different. They never asked for money, cloths or other stuff. What happen is that over the years, as Western men came to PI and started going overboard with gifts, money, etc, many girls nowdays started expecting it. You will find these girls online asking for money cell phones, etc. And many Western guys will feel a need to do it. If that works for you and other guys, that is fine. But it is not how I go about having a GFE with Filipinas.
I understand you feel bad when you see your Filipina show up with worn shoes and cloths and you feel the need to buy her stuff. If you feel good to buy stuff for her, then by all means do it. Your approach is not bad or wrong, it is just how you go about your interaction with them. If that works for you, then continue to do it. As for me, my methods works very well for me.
The guys out there reading this post can pick which approach they like and use it. Or use some method they come up with. There is no wrong answer.
I've only been comings to Phils for 5 years and I have "evolved" to your approach. As a result, I'm ending up with more "model quality" ladies and less expense. I don't know how "reports of distinction" works but you are nominated in my book.
Cheapy.
First, let me say that I do not disagree with your approach. Also, I am not trying to put down how you go about getting girls. If your approach works for you, that is good. As I stated in my preivous post, different methods work for different guys. My approach is simple, I date like a local guy. After going to PI for the past 25 years, here is what I have learned and live by:
1. Let me be clear about a simple point. If I am going to a hooker, I will pay her. If I am going to date a Filipina as my gf, then I will not be throwing money at her. But many guys are confused about this point. They meet a girl online, come to PI, spend several hundred dollars on her (cloths, cell phones, etc) , have sex with the girl and think somehow, it is not Pay-4-Play. Bare in mind, these girls are not dump. You will not be the only Western guy she will be meeting during the year that will be giving her money, cloths, cell phones, etc. As for me, I refuse to play that game.
2. When a guy from the Philippines meets a filipina and they start dating, the guy does not feel the need to spend 8, 000 (as you stated) on the girl. When guys and girls in the Philippines date, they simply go out on dates (e. G, movies, Jolliebees, hang out at the mall, etc). So, why do older guys from another country feel the need to give these same girls lots of money, cloths, etc. Thse girls would not expect it from the local guy in the same situation.
3. The simple fact is, if the girl really likes you, she will stay with you even if you did not give her money, cloths etc. Of course, just as in a date situation, take them to the movies, Jolliebees, etc. If the girl is with you just for the money, then yes. You will need to give her all the gifts for her to be with you and have sex with you. As for me, when I go out on a date, I actually enjoy it as much as the girl does. I like going to the movies, to a club, out to eat with my gf. Therefore, the money I spend for that, I am spending for the both of us and I get a lot of enjoyement out of it. To me, I am not paying her when I pay for our movies, our dinner, etc. It is just like when we were young and going on dates in our own country.
4. If I am going to pay for sex, then I will go to a hooker. If I want to be in a real GFE relathionship, then I will not be throwing money at her. Again, I will treat her like a GF. That is movies, going out, etc. Just like a local guy in the Philippines would date a filipina.
I agree with you statement that "Phi is only one of the very few dwindling places where older foreign visitors can taste young women non-pros." I have been to most of the places in Asia and the Philippines is my number one choice. With more than 800, 000 hookers in PI (according to Wikipedia) and tons of regular girls looking for guys like you and me, PI is has an endless supply of women for us.
I like Filipinas of all ages, sizes, and shapes. It depends on my mood and the girl. I have met some really horny, sweet, sexy filipinas in their 30s that really know how to provide a real GFE and love making. And, I have date 18 yo and 40, 50 plus Filipinas over the years. However, I have never just givien them money or purchased a lot of stuff for them. Why, because I do not need to and it is not required by the girl. They are with me becasue they really want to be with me. This is what I call "date like a local guy." The local guys from the Philippines would not dream of treating these girls the way Western guys treat Filipinas.
You had stated,"If there are young women who will gladly fuck the brains out of an older foreign man without any demands let me know!" By demands, if you mean money, then most young girls will only fuck older men for money. Payment by direct means or by purchasing stuff for the girl. But, then she is really just a hooker in my book. If she will not have sex with me unless I pay her or buy her stuff, then it is Pay 4 Play.
By demands, if you mean she wants to marry me, have a family one day, etc, then that is a natural demand a women will make if she really loves the guy. I regard that deman as reasonable. Why, if she is a non-pro and she is going to fuck my brains out, and she knows I am not going to throw money at her, then she is doing it becasue she feels love for me and wants a future with me.
I must be clear, since I go to PI many times each year (since I work in HK) , I date Filipinas on regular basis in a real girlfriend boyfriend relathionship. So, my situation is different then most guys. What workes for me, may not work for you or other guys. Each guy should stick to the method that works for him. Again, I am not putting down your approach, I am just saying your appraoch is not my style and how I deal with Filipinas.
One last point. When I was in the Service and first went to the PI more than 25 years ago, Filipinas were different. They never asked for money, cloths or other stuff. What happen is that over the years, as Western men came to PI and started going overboard with gifts, money, etc, many girls nowdays started expecting it. You will find these girls online asking for money cell phones, etc. And many Western guys will feel a need to do it. If that works for you and other guys, that is fine. But it is not how I go about having a GFE with Filipinas.
I understand you feel bad when you see your Filipina show up with worn shoes and cloths and you feel the need to buy her stuff. If you feel good to buy stuff for her, then by all means do it. Your approach is not bad or wrong, it is just how you go about your interaction with them. If that works for you, then continue to do it. As for me, my methods works very well for me.
The guys out there reading this post can pick which approach they like and use it. Or use some method they come up with. There is no wrong answer.
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Che555.
This one is kind of annoying. She like to wow me with interesting messages like,"you are both on dia and tagged". Of course she figured this out when I found her on tagged. And she could see that I had viewed here profile. Duh. Earlier she informed me,"you have a gf". I hate it when the assume stuff.
Ritchelleabellana.
Searching the name takes me to FB where her profile says,"engaged". Okay.
Glads91.
Two kids, but nice and fkable. Has worked the bars in the past.
Stranger18.
Does she look familiar Mortman?
Lovely71479.
Looks like someone I met at St. Moritz
Undercoverh
07-17-12, 13:45
I've only been comings to Phils for 5 years and I have "evolved" to your approach. As a result, I'm ending up with more "model quality" ladies and less expense. I don't know how "reports of distinction" works but you are nominated in my book.
Cheapy.Thanks! Have fun!
FreebieFan
07-18-12, 09:56
Here's one who isn't shy to say what she wants.
Wetpinoy69 although I'm not sure why didn't name herself wetpinay69?
AAA Hunter
07-19-12, 04:44
Restoration of the hymen is a very big business in the Philippines. An example of this is a website for hymenoplasty surgery.
http://www.beverlyhills.ph/procedures/hymenoplasty
The hymen restoration surgery can make a woman appear to be a real virgin again. So, all you virgin hunters, be forewarned. Of course, if the girl is dirt poor from the provinces, it is doubtful that she could afford this. Attached is are pictures before and after the surgery.
RGIt's between USD$700 to USD$1200, depends on what needs to be done.
Cunning Stunt
07-19-12, 15:13
Watch out for those DIA girls who give only an enigmatic smile, like Mona Lisa, on their profile picture and facebook photos. They might be hiding something.
Met a girl this afternoon who ticked all the right boxes until she opened her mouth. OMG! She should have been renamed Juanita (one eater...geddit). I just had to give her travel expenses and let her go. I really couldn't get past those teeth or lack of thereof. I had plans for that mouth that didn't include a gummy granny effect...lol.
Lesson learned.
Asian Rain
07-19-12, 16:58
Lesson learned.From my experience, there are quite a few "lessons" on DIA. Despite whatever you do do avoid them, you end up having to learn them.
Take for example this girl. Good profile, cute photo. Asked her all the questions. Do you look the same as your profile pic? Weight really 40kg? Really no baby? All affirmed. So we meet up (she is fairly cute and definitely petite) and shuffle over to Eurotel. Get her unwrapped and what do I see? Bellyfull of stretchmarks. Bloody hell. Didn't you tell me otherwise? Don't you think I understand the signs of birth? Would you know the difference if you saw the belly in the panty pic?
Anyway, I'm not one at that stage to bail from a session with dick in hand. After all, she COULD have made up for her sins with an enthusiastic session. Unfortunately for me, she didn't have a fucking clue: just laid down, opened her legs, turned her head to one side and waited for me to penetrate her. I don't know how I did it, but I muddled through the session and somehow managed to dump my cum.
DIA still has its place in my mongering world, but from a selection point of view it is kinda like a box of chocolates that have been picked through (and it definitely doesn't have any sweets with the cherry inside). Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
Jerremy_87 on DIA is one of the loveliest women I've seen. Or at least her photos are, since I've never seen her in person. Her profile gives her FB account. If you go there, you'll see one snapshot after another of an almost painfully beautiful woman. She is exquisite even climbing a tree in a t-shirt and jeans. I know there's a risk of flooding her in box with inquires from horny mongers, but most of you can save the effort. Unless you are handsome, young, and rich (not our typical demographic) and looking for marriage, you aren't going to have a shot at this one. I didn't even get so much as a "no thank you" response to my inquiry. Just enjoy the eye candy and move along.
Tally Wacker
07-20-12, 07:29
Girl looks familiar but I don't have photos to compare. The story sounds the same as in showing up after confirmining no kids but then when clothes came off there were stretch marks. I did not complain or ask because there was no money talked about. She told me that her baby died at 5 months. I'm guessing it was true because I did not complain but just wanted to hear her story. I felt sorry for her as she explained that she became pregnant by a foriegn guy that disapeared after they fucked.
Take for example this girl. Good profile, cute photo. Asked her all the questions. Do you look the same as your profile pic? Weight really 40kg? Really no baby? All affirmed. So we meet up (she is fairly cute and definitely petite) and shuffle over to Eurotel. Get her unwrapped and what do I see? Bellyfull of stretchmarks. Bloody hell. Didn't you tell me otherwise? Don't you think I understand the signs of birth? Would you know the difference if you saw the belly in the panty pic?
FreebieFan
07-20-12, 09:24
climbing , but most of you can save the effort. Unless you are handsome, young, and rich (not our typical demographic) .Shame on you Sir. I nearly tick at least one of those boxes.
Be wary of febbe on DIA (Cebu; 33yo).
She says she has a baby girl in her profile but says nothing about another daughter.
I spam baited her using another name after chatting with her for a long time and she denied having 2 kids until I told her I knew she had 2 and so she then admitted it.
She begged for money in chat way back when she had just one kid and then next thing she was telling me she was pregnant again to another guy.
She is a drama queen but she will come across as very sweet if you contact her.
No doubt there are many fibbers like febbe on DIA.
From my experience, there are quite a few "lessons" on DIA. Despite whatever you do do avoid them, you end up having to learn them.
Unfortunately for me, she didn't have a fucking clue: just laid down, opened her legs, turned her head to one side and waited for me to penetrate her. I don't know how I did it, but I muddled through the session and somehow managed to dump my cum.Stretch marks and droopy tits (some of the best I have had bore these characteristics) I can cope with, but not this. On the other hand when I have had an extended period in one place and have come across this attitude with a sexy little package, an investment in time has turned (in some cases) the little lady into a wildcat. Some poor gals just need some time.
Shame on you Sir. I nearly tick at least one of those boxes.Why not take a whack at her, FF? If you manage to get her into bed, I'll buy you a beer. Or two.
Wicked Roger
07-21-12, 05:06
Shame on you Sir. I nearly tick at least one of those boxes.He forgot to mention the blue eys also FF.
But when I see her and have fun then he will know I am the normal demographic.
Wazoo. DIA is full of beauties and the one you mentioned is no better or worse than the 2 girls I had in my bed last night so while I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder there are plenty more fish in the sea.
As as you clearly are not as handsome etc as FF or me, maybe set your sights lower first. LOL
Cunning Stunt
07-21-12, 07:30
Why not take a whack at her, FF? If you manage to get her into bed, I'll buy you a beer. Or two.You have to adopt a never say die attitude with these dating site girls. They are not on there just to show off their pretty pictures. I came across a girl that was my ideal. Beautiful face atop a perfectly formed, tight young body and a girly girl demeanor if you know what I mean. She was way beyond my league and in the west, all I would be able to do was look and lust. But we are not in the west and these girls might be hot but they are usually skint and this beautiful girl soon made it clear that she was available. I've met her twice and, to be honest, although physically she was near my ideal of perfection, in bed she was a bit of a disappointment. Now she is pestering me for a third session, and it is only that she is such a cracker that I might weaken and see her. If she had been one of the normal pretty girls I usually see, she would not have got beyond session one.
P.S Coincidentally as I posted this, I just received a facebook message from her asking when we are to meet again...lol.
You have to adopt a never say die attitude with these dating site girls. They are not on there just to show off their pretty pictures. <SNIP> . Now she is pestering me for a third session, and it is only that she is such a beauty that I might weaken and see her. If she had been one of the normal pretty girls I usually see, she would not have got beyond session one.I agree wholeheartedly CS.
I sent a message to a 5ft 6in long legged stunner with a DIA profile that was vastly out of sync with mine and she replied rather warmly. We met and she was even better than her pics but the performance was average. She is pestering me too for a repeat. Seems to stay home most of the time (we chat often) and she really surprised me. I thought she would have heaps of admirers, but she says she ignores most messages she receives and doesn't have a bf.
As you say CS, just go for it. If they are not interested they will either ignore you completely or tell you to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off. Chances are something better might happen.
Wicked Roger
07-21-12, 12:30
Now she is pestering me for a third session, and it is only that she is such a cracker that I might weaken and see her. P.S Coincidentally as I posted this, I just received a facebook message from her asking when we are to meet again.lol.CS.
You might weaken. She is a cracker. And you may weaken. Am sure you will. And if not send her my way and I will add resolve and something else to her LOL.
Thanks for the picture and check the PMs
El Cubanito
07-21-12, 14:52
Ok, I have been chatting with a couple of DIA girls what can I expect from these girls. One that I have been chatting with she is older 35+ in age. She seem sweet and nice. She wants to meet me in Cebu for 2 days and then she say she need to go back to her city because she works. I have met a couple of young one that for her pussy want me to sponosr them. I am like Dam I do not want to buy the cow I just want the milk.
El Cubanito
Asian Rain
07-21-12, 18:33
Ok, I have been chatting with a couple of DIA girls what can I expect from these girls.If you read the posts many members have made, I would suppose it is sensible to say that there is no way of telling what to expect from DIA girls. Out of the 15 or so DIA girls I have experienced this year, I have had some GFEs and PSEs on the bright side. On the dark side, I have had a starfish, a fatty and a couple MILFs (who said they weren't MILFs). Like my last post, even if you ask all the questions, sometimes it doesn't work out. I don't know what you would reasonably hope to expect from a 35yo+ lady, but I would personally set the bar low.
This girl is not a DIA girl, but the younger sister of a DIA girl that now has become a pimpette. Her sister wasn't the best looker, but she put the Fuck Machine into LBFM. Not only memorable for her deep sucking, but a pair of massive meat flaps on her clam that vacuumed my cock with every stroke. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
Ok, I have been chatting with a couple of DIA girls what can I expect from these girls.You only need to read 10 to 15 posts back here on this very thread to learn a lot about DIA.
For someone with over 300 posts, I am surprised you are asking such a naive question and it shows you did not read very much here at all.
So, I got a message of interest on DIA from a fairly conservative looking lady, a bit plump and frumpy. Not really my cup of tea. But then I read her profile:
"Hey. I'm XXX. I'm a sweet girl, tall with fair complexion. I like to sing and travel to different places. I grew here in the Philippines. I like to hang out and spend time with friends and go to movies! And also I love a big cock. But I always asking for a tiny penis. Muah lov yah all. Just message me if you want about me."
Ok, this called for some more investigation! We exchanged several messages. Turns out, she didn't even know what a cock is, didn't write the profile, and says she never even read it. I never got a clear explanation about where the profile came from. I guess this is a lesson about why we shouldn't put much stock in anything we read in a profile, LOL! She's been a member since 2009. I'm guessing she must have been puzzled by the constant flood of perverts who want to cam with her. After talking with me she did some editing.
Member #1088
07-22-12, 17:38
Yes, totally agree. It's important to be able to read motives. I'm still a newbie to the Philippines scene, but I found out the hard way about sending money to Filipinas. There are plenty on DIA who see a foreigner as an ATM machine and will bleed you dry if you let that happen. It's easy to spot the pure scammers. More difficult are the ones who let you get involved and then slowly over time increase their expectations. It's difficult to say no because most of these girls live hand-to-mouth and any illness or family problem can create a crisis. Based on my limited experience, I'd say that the best advise is to cut-off the relationship if a girl is constantly trying to worm money out of you. That will only get worse after you actually meet. You can guarantee that every sex act is going to have a specific price tag put on it in terms of gifts or "help" for the family. In my DIA profile I now state very clearly that I will not send money overseas for any reason. That screens out at least some of the greedy ones. The one I'm involved with now has never asked for a dime and will accept only small gifts. In fact, she turned down my offer to help her with tuition "cause I don't want you to think I a gold digger." There are lots of women like her who never ask for anything. As you say, a guy just needs to be full aware. If he has some suspicion that he is being lied to, manipulated, or scammed, he probably is.Similar situation here. Now it comes to the point that they have to put out in cam first I would consider and I tell them on the profile, no money I have now 4 stead gf via phone / cam from dia, there is always one avaialble when I need it.
WestCoast1
07-22-12, 18:52
Ok, I have been chatting with a couple of DIA girls what can I expect from these girls. One that I have been chatting with she is older 35+ in age. She seem sweet and nice. She wants to meet me in Cebu for 2 days and then she say she need to go back to her city because she works. I have met a couple of young one that for her pussy want me to sponosr them. I am like Dam I do not want to buy the cow I just want the milk.
El CubanitoEC: Please take an hour or two to RTTF: specifically this thread, the manila thread, and the cebu thread.
Having said that, I think its safe to say that DIA is like Forest Gump's box of chocolates: you never know what you are going to get, and there is no good way to tell you what you can expect from these girls. They run the gammut from nice to nawty, from honest to scammers, from pretty to fugly.
FreebieFan
07-23-12, 02:06
Why not take a whack at her, FF? If you manage to get her into bed, I'll buy you a beer. Or two.The "Mrs" is currently in residence in Manila so I'm having to play in different waters. Had a double (An Indonesian and a Filipina) in Hong kong yesterday so life is quite good and the parts that need refeshing are well refreshed. This will last for at least a day or two. This week will see me with a Taiwanese girl, and hopefully a 28 year old Filipina. And the beat goes on.
But for sure I will be back swimming in Manilas troubled waters as soon as the coast (continuing the water theme) is clear.
The "Mrs" is currently in residence in Manila so I'm having to play in different waters. Had a double (An Indonesian and a Filipina) in Hong kong yesterday so life is quite good and the parts that need refeshing are well refreshed. This will last for at least a day or two. This week will see me with a Taiwanese girl, and hopefully a 28 year old Filipina. And the beat goes on.
But for sure I will be back swimming in Manilas troubled waters as soon as the coast (continuing the water theme) is clear.Your "down time" is better than most of my fantasies!
FreebieFan
07-26-12, 04:53
Ok ok. We know we all make spelling errors (moi included!) , but sometimes the errors are better. Case in point, one young lady on a website wrote.
MY E-MAIL IS FOR WRITHING NOT FOR CHATTING.Honey, your body is for writhing not for chatting either. ! LOL
Cunning Stunt
07-26-12, 09:06
Hahaha...not sure about her handle but this cute lil b*tch might be worth trying if you are in Cebu.
FreebieFan
07-27-12, 09:23
You sometimes know that you are playing in the younger end of the pool by the words they say.
Today was chatting with a prospect for my next trip, who is all of 19.
We; ve esetablished that we wil have sex, but she happily says " and can I have a sleepover too ".
I was about to respond, that sleepovers are what teenagers do, when I realised, thats what she is.
Thanks for sharing CS. Do you never go to Cebu?
Hahaha.not sure about her handle but this cute lil b*tch might be worth trying if you are in Cebu.
Cunning Stunt
07-27-12, 15:58
Thanks for sharing CS. Do you never go to Cebu?Not anymore, mate. I've long since done all the traveling I want to do in The Philippines and these days restrict myself to Manila and environs. Only go into traveling man mode when I leave these shores. Not even been to Angeles, except to catch a flight, in years. Just doesn't interest me anymore. I can get all the pussy I need within 10 miles of my Manila home.
. I can get all the pussy I need within 10 miles of my Manila home.Sounds like Heaven to me, mate. When I retire I want to be like CS. : a steady flow of Manila thrillas and occasional province girls preferably with larger than average knockers!
New one on DIA informs me she just gave birth. Wasn't someone interested in milk? Ha, ha
BrainDrain
07-30-12, 08:45
Had a chat today with one of my little friends from Cebu earlier this year. She's since moved overseas to middle.east and not likely to come back anytime soon. Anyway, she is a legit young lady and still talks about how we are good friends because we've already had a 'friendship date'. So, in her vocabulary a 'friendship date' is a few drinks, chatting and fucking, staying for breakfast. So I'll road test that term on a few DIA contacts to see if they have the same understanding.
Other Pinay terms I hear are "Singing on the microphone" which was being used by two young ladies talking about what they could get up to (with me). Used in the context of,"we'd like to come and sing on your microphone'. Perhaps another term to be used.
BD
El Cubanito
07-30-12, 12:28
Not anymore, mate. I've long since done all the traveling I want to do in The Philippines and these days restrict myself to Manila and environs. Only go into traveling man mode when I leave these shores. Not even been to Angeles, except to catch a flight, in years. Just doesn't interest me anymore. I can get all the pussy I need within 10 miles of my Manila home.Cunning since you know the lay of the land 1, 000, 000 percent better than me. I have a couple of questions. I have been having regular conversations with about 4 girls from DIA. My questions are:
1. What chance do I really have in meeting these girls from DIA? Should I even try or go out of my way to meet?
2. I have one girl that I met from Iligan City that say she we will meet me and claims to be unemployed but we chat on net everyday. Doesn't internet cost money? I had another asked me straight up if I would sponsor her without even meeting or if I would like her services?
3. Another wants me to support her and her baby. Great tits on her though
4. I met one that seem normal and I like. The only thing is that she is quite older than others.
Cunning I am planing on going to Manila and Cebu and also stay for 3 or 4 days to Bantayan Island.
What can I expect from these cities? I know about manila, what about the others?
El Cubanito
Maybe CS should set up a research and counseling service for newbies and charge the going rate.
Cunning since you know the lay of the land 1, 000, 000 percent better than me. I have a couple of questions. I have been having regular conversations with about 4 girls from DIA. My questions are:
1. What chance do I really have in meeting these girls from DIA? Should I even try or go out of my way to meet?
2. I have one girl that I met from Iligan City that say she we will meet me and claims to be unemployed but we chat on net everyday. Doesn't internet cost money? I had another asked me straight up if I would sponsor her without even meeting or if I would like her services?
3. Another wants me to support her and her baby. Great tits on her though.
4. I met one that seem normal and I like. The only thing is that she is quite older than others.
Cunning I am planing on going to Manila and Cebu and also stay for 3 or 4 days to Bantayan Island.
What can I expect from these cities? I know about manila, what about the others?
El Cubanito
Asian Rain
07-30-12, 14:04
http://www.dateinasia.com/uendi_02
My first DIA girl. Now has resurfaced in AC. Spinner and cute enough, although she is definitely scarred (literally) from some past relationship with a poreigner. Has a nice tramp stamp with his name etched into her skin. Looks cute in her college uniform on facebook. Wonder if she still has it for modeling.
Came to the Pan Pac for a pic / video session. She was tense / cool at first, but warmed up nicely as the session went on. Very tight wet snatch with a firm little ass. Worth a twirl. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
I have been having regular conversations with about 4 girls from DIA. My questions are:
1. What chance do I really have in meeting these girls from DIA? Should I even try or go out of my way to meet?
2. I have one girl that I met from Iligan City that say she we will meet me and claims to be unemployed but we chat on net everyday. Doesn't internet cost money? I had another asked me straight up if I would sponsor her without even meeting or if I would like her services?
3. Another wants me to support her and her baby. Great tits on her though.
4. I met one that seem normal and I like. The only thing is that she is quite older than others.
El Cubanito1. DIA girls are easy to meet. Some will come and stay with you while others may play games hoping to get some money from you. It is like dating and depending upon the girl and you can have great time together and less expensive than barfining.
2. It is surprising that although most girls say they do not have a job, they find some way to get online. Internet in provinces are very cheap, in some cases only 10 pesos an hour. Most of the time they do some babysitting or household chores and make some money.
There is nothing called free sex in DIA. One way or another you will pay. Generally I plan to stay with one new girl for three nights and later decide if I want to keep her longer.
Yes, all ask for money later on chatting. I have on occassions have sent money to help my favourite girls.
Never send any money before meeting.
3. Do not get involved with girls with baggage. They always need money.
4. I date only 18-23 range. This group seems to be naive and more accomodating.
Cunning Stunt
07-31-12, 01:32
4. I met one that seem normal and I like. The only thing is that she is quite older than others.Sammon has very kindly saved me the trouble of answering your questions as I would have replied in a similar manner myself.
Define your concept of normal? I have yet to meet a 'normal' Filipina! Take care with older Filipinas, unless she has a good job and money. It can be a hard life here for a Pinay without either and can have a devastating effect on mind and body. They can be desperate and clinging and I find they are more trouble than they are worth. I have had some good experiences with age 30+ ladies but they have been financially independent or in good jobs.
I tend to concentrate on the age range 18-25. One thing I would say is do not rely solely on her DIA profile photo. Get her facebook details and look at her everyday photos and if still not convinced, get her on webcam. I posted recently on a girl that I met who ticked all the boxes facially and bodily, but I failed to notice that in none of her facebook photos did she smile so her teeth were showing. When I met her, I found out why. She was dentally bankrupt!
Cebu is a marginally more laid back version of traffic clogged Manila but has at least, some decent beaches and resorts close to the city. The last time that I visited Bantayan, it consisted largely of fishing villages and only had two decent hotels. I imagine that it has changed enormously, and not for the better. There are members here who live in Cebu and so know the place infinitely better than I. You would be better asking them.
After a few chats I arranged to meet a filipina yesterday at 11. 30 am at a local mall, quite close to her home. I had never met her "in real" or "in personal" (the terms they use) before.
I reiterated that we meet at 11. 30 am and I told her "don't be late".
At 10 am I get a text "I am here now; where are you?"
Me: I will be there by 11. 30 as we arranged.
Her: OMG. What will I do for all that time?
Me: Just roam around and look at the people and shops.
Her: Ohh OK.
Every 10 minutes for the next 90 mins I got a text "where are you now?" to which I replied "see you at 11. 30" (which I did)
It is certainly a bit different to the usual 60 to 90 minutes late but it just emphasises that they have very little concept of time and how it is handled. I have no idea why she thought I might be there at 10 am when I had said we would meet at 11.30am. She didn't either, as she had no plausible answer to my question.
El Cubanito
07-31-12, 12:42
Sammon has very kindly saved me the trouble of answering your questions as I would have replied in a similar manner myself.
Define your concept of normal? I have yet to meet a 'normal' Filipina! Take care with older Filipinas, unless she has a good job and money. It can be a hard life here for a Pinay without either and can have a devastating effect on mind and body. They can be desperate and clinging and I find they are more trouble than they are worth. I have had some good experiences with age 30+ ladies but they have been financially independent or in good jobs.
I tend to concentrate on the age range 18-25. One thing I would say is do not rely solely on her DIA profile photo. Get her facebook details and look at her everyday photos and if still not convinced, get her on webcam. I posted recently on a girl that I met who ticked all the boxes facially and bodily, but I failed to notice that in none of her facebook photos did she smile so her teeth were showing. When I met her, I found out why. She was dentally bankrupt!
Cebu is a marginally more laid back version of traffic clogged Manila but has at least, some decent beaches and resorts close to the city. The last time that I visited Bantayan, it consisted largely of fishing villages and only had two decent hotels. I imagine that it has changed enormously, and not for the better. There are members here who live in Cebu and so know the place infinitely better than I. You would be better asking them.Cunning,
Thank you for all of the tips and advice. I will take them. Cunning the 30+ looks like she does have money as she is the principal of a school in Bacolod City (sp?). She has not mention money in all of our conversations. She just want to meet me to showed me a good time and then she say she needs to go back to her city, which for me is good. We do seem to have the same mental make up and she looks like she has take care of herself as she claims not to have kids (She has a condition). I have looked at literally 1000 of pics on her facebook account.
I am interested on other chicks that I have met one in particular very hot girl from Iligan City. This girl has not asked me for money directly, but she hints that she need transportation money to go from Iligan City to cagayan de oro airport to get a flight to go over to cebu. I am not sending money to nobody. There must be a way for her to get to that airport. Any comment from the experts?
El Cubanito
El Cubanito
07-31-12, 12:45
1. DIA girls are easy to meet. Some will come and stay with you while others may play games hoping to get some money from you. It is like dating and depending upon the girl and you can have great time together and less expensive than barfining.
2. It is surprising that although most girls say they do not have a job, they find some way to get online. Internet in provinces are very cheap, in some cases only 10 pesos an hour. Most of the time they do some babysitting or household chores and make some money.
There is nothing called free sex in DIA. One way or another you will pay. Generally I plan to stay with one new girl for three nights and later decide if I want to keep her longer.
Yes, all ask for money later on chatting. I have on occassions have sent money to help my favourite girls.
Never send any money before meeting.
3. Do not get involved with girls with baggage. They always need money.
4. I date only 18-23 range. This group seems to be naive and more accomodating.I do not mind sending money to a girl if I have met her and she has given me great service and time. (I have done this with girls from Cuba and Colombia) But sending money to somebody that at the last moment might say to me have a nice day asshole is not my cup of tea. What do you think about this girl from Iligan who wants money to travel from Iligan to Cebu to meet me.
Hi Red,
One has to wonder if the same applies to their work. Sheesh. I hope she took care of you.
After a few chats I arranged to meet a filipina yesterday at 11. 30 am at a local mall, quite close to her home. I had never met her "in real" or "in personal" (the terms they use) before.
I reiterated that we meet at 11. 30 am and I told her "don't be late".
At 10 am I get a text "I am here now; where are you?"
Me: I will be there by 11. 30 as we arranged.
Her: OMG. What will I do for all that time?
Me: Just roam around and look at the people and shops.
Her: Ohh OK.
Every 10 minutes for the next 90 mins I got a text "where are you now?" to which I replied "see you at 11. 30" (which I did)
It is certainly a bit different to the usual 60 to 90 minutes late but it just emphasises that they have very little concept of time and how it is handled. I have no idea why she thought I might be there at 10 am when I had said we would meet at 11. 30am. She didn't either, as she had no plausible answer to my question.
Member #4351
07-31-12, 15:24
I am not sending money to nobody. There must be a way for her to get to that airport. Any comment from the experts?Yes, my comment is that you are a koripot cheapskate. Are you such a prize that girls should borrow money in order to meet you? From reading your posts I predict that your trip will be of the "crash and burn" variety.
I do not mind sending money to a girl if I have met her and she has given me great service and time. (I have done this with girls from Cuba and Colombia) But sending money to somebody that at the last moment might say to me have a nice day asshole is not my cup of tea. What do you think about this girl from Iligan who wants money to travel from Iligan to Cebu to meet me.It depends. I have sent air-ticket plus money to girls. Except one all have showed up.
If you do not send money they will not show up. In your case maybe target only local girls who do not have to travel far.
Wicked Roger
07-31-12, 18:08
Yes, my comment is that you are a koripot cheapskate. Are you such a prize that girls should borrow money in order to meet you? From reading your posts I predict that your trip will be of the "crash and burn" variety.Tend to agree as earlier I mentioned that if you buy the ticket on a credit card you can get the cash back if she no shows. Many have no funds and borrow at high interest rates (you are aware of the 5/6 'loans'?) so that is why they ask 1000-2000 pesos which should be sod all to to most guys on this forum. The departure tax of 200 pesos I know is casue for concern for some girls!
Now what if you are so kruipot and then change your mind so don't want to see her or worse are not where you are supposed ton be when you said you would, she ends up in Manila and is 'ashamed' to tell the folks back home that the nice white foreigner did not show.
Messy is a word that springs to mind.
If 1000-2000 pesos is an issue now David 33 is correct."crash and burn"
El Cubanito
07-31-12, 20:17
Yes, my comment is that you are a koripot cheapskate. Are you such a prize that girls should borrow money in order to meet you? From reading your posts I predict that your trip will be of the "crash and burn" variety.I have always respected your posts, but you do not know me or my spending habits. I do not mind sending money to girls to meet me. What I do mind is being taken for a sucker. I know that on this trip I will have loses but I am trying to minimize it as much as possible, but I will still have it because I do not know all of the scams games. Is this so bad for me to do my homework?
El Cubanito
07-31-12, 20:19
Tend to agree as earlier I mentioned that if you buy the ticket on a credit card you can get the cash back if she no shows. Many have no funds and borrow at high interest rates (you are aware of the 5/6 'loans'?) so that is why they ask 1000-2000 pesos which should be sod all to to most guys on this forum. The departure tax of 200 pesos I know is casue for concern for some girls!
Now what if you are so kruipot and then change your mind so don't want to see her or worse are not where you are supposed ton be when you said you would, she ends up in Manila and is 'ashamed' to tell the folks back home that the nice white foreigner did not show.
Messy is a word that springs to mind.
If 1000-2000 pesos is an issue now David 33 is correct."crash and burn"To answer all of your questions she asked me for 200 pesos. I sent her $50 US Dollars. Yes the airfare I am buying on the credit card at worst I lose 50 dollars. That is not bad for a sweet thing.
WestCoast1
07-31-12, 20:33
Yes, my comment is that you are a koripot cheapskate. Are you such a prize that girls should borrow money in order to meet you? From reading your posts I predict that your trip will be of the "crash and burn" variety.I'm going to take the opposite tack here. I don't send money for them to come to me. Have been burned. Girls often borrow a few hundred pesos to find me (Iligan to CDO, Bayugan to Butuan, Bislig to Butuan or Surigao, Pampanga and Lipa to Manila, Surigao and CDO to Cebu by ferry, San Fernando and Argao and Danao to Cebu city). I've not paid for an airline ticket. Reason: there is plenty of local talent where I'm at. My policy is to tell them to borrow it, and when we meet initially I will repay them 2x that amount for RT. That way, if they don't want to stay with me, they can turn around and get back on the bus. I include food expenses. I don't think I'm anything too handsome, but I must say that if a girl is not dying to come find me without my pesos to get her there, she's not worth my chatting with. The risk has to be initially to the girl, never me.
I also have another advantage: since I'm only meeting for sex, its easy for me to drop any girl on the spot. A girl says she can't borrow the pesos to come see me? Ignore list, or tell her: "Sorry. When you can come up with it, contact me again, but not until then. OK?"
Member #4351
07-31-12, 22:04
Cunning since you know the lay of the land 1, 000, 000 percent better than me. I have a couple of questions. I have been having regular conversations with about 4 girls from DIA. My questions are:
1. What chance do I really have in meeting these girls from DIA? Should I even try or go out of my way to meet?
2. I have one girl that I met from Iligan City that say she we will meet me and claims to be unemployed but we chat on net everyday. Doesn't internet cost money? I had another asked me straight up if I would sponsor her without even meeting or if I would like her services?
3. Another wants me to support her and her baby. Great tits on her though.
4. I met one that seem normal and I like. The only thing is that she is quite older than others.
Cunning I am planing on going to Manila and Cebu and also stay for 3 or 4 days to Bantayan Island.
What can I expect from these cities? I know about manila, what about the others?
El CubanitoI wasn't only referring to you being a cheapskate; rather to your posts in general (like the above) which suggest someone similar to D Cups.
I've not paid for an airline ticket. Reason: there is plenty of local talent where I'm at.Completely different. It will be much easier for a girl to borrow a couple of hundred pesos for the bus or jeepney than a couple of thousand for a plane ticket. So your comments really have nothing to do with what we are talking about. If the girl is trying to scam you, there is no way she can get money for a ticket purchased with a credit card. I have purchased many plane tickets for girls and was never ripped off. I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED ONCE, when sending CASH for a ferry ticket. I ended up losing around $20 and chalked it up to experience.
Sometimes the copy you will read in DIA profiles just cracks me up. Last week I posted about a conservative looking young lady whose profile said that she was looking for a big cock. When I asked her about it she had no idea what that meant. She either copied text from somewhere without understanding it, or maybe someone was playing a very bad joke on her. For this week's entry, I direct you to sexygirl4u. Her profile reads: "HOT AND SEXY. FUCKER FACE HERE!" She ends her profile by stating "AND most specially. VERY VERY HONEST GIRL." So either something is lost in translation, or someone can expect to have a VERY good time with her.
I have always respected your posts, but you do not know me or my spending habits. I do not mind sending money to girls to meet me. What I do mind is being taken for a sucker. I know that on this trip I will have loses but I am trying to minimize it as much as possible, but I will still have it because I do not know all of the scams games. Is this so bad for me to do my homework?We are dealing here with mostly young poor girls. This is how DIA became famous for mongers. Even the girls have learned the trick of how to make money. Not all the girls are honest however. All of my girls joined DIA hoping to meet a foreigner and hoping for marriage and get out of Phi or atleast get a foreigner to support them. They told me they have a aunt, friend or cousin who is married to a foreigner and living well. Remember part of their duty in life is to support their family. None of these girls are under the illusion that marriage will take place soon. Along the way they have learned to exchange sex for money and gifts. It is not unheard of girls who have many boyfriends visiting. But at they same time they do not like to work in a bar or branded as prostitutes.
IMHO I start chatting about 2 months before my trip. Any longer the girls are not interested. Ofcourse initially they all say they are good girls and will not have sex with me-blah, blah, blah. On continued chatting they are willing to meet me and stay with me. Ofcourse there are some who will never agree.
Of those willing to meet their next query is they do not have any money for travel expenses. If I am in Manila or Cebu and the girl is local I ask them to borrow money to come and see me. If it is a province girl I send air-ticket and about 1000 pesos. My trick is to tell them I will bring a camera or cell phone as a gift.
Only one time one girl failed to show up after I sent 2500 pesos. This is because I had problem using my cedit card on Cebu Pacific (Those days they would not accept any foreign credit card). And she had the audacity to request another 2500 pesos for some emergency giving the reason her mother is in hospital so she could not meet me.
Otherwise I have met upwards of 25 girls, some local, some from provinces. I still have 4 of my favourite girls I use as back up. Always willing to take a chance on new ones.
Irrespective of how much homework you do, you can end up with bad apples.
IMHO only with local girls you have better luck with not sending money before meeting. Province girls are the best I have found besides they are more friendly because they are away from prying eyes of their hometown.
Go moderate yourself, David. As usual, you and AR don't know what the hell you are talking about.
I wasn't only referring to you being a cheapskate; rather to your posts in general (like the above) which suggest someone similar to D Cups.
Completely different. It will be much easier for a girl to borrow a couple of hundred pesos for the bus or jeepney than a couple of thousand for a plane ticket. So your comments really have nothing to do with what we are talking about. If the girl is trying to scam you, there is no way she can get money for a ticket purchased with a credit card. I have purchased many plane tickets for girls and was never ripped off. I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED ONCE, when sending CASH for a ferry ticket. I ended up losing around $20 and chalked it up to experience.
Radical Guy
07-31-12, 23:02
Unlike most posters on this forum, I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong by allowing a girl to think that marriage, etc. Is a possibility, as long as you don't make any concrete promises. Isn't that how things work in the real dating world in the US?
When I was mongering, when a girl brought up the idea of possible marriage, my response was,"Well, I am not LOOKING for a wife, but if things work out, then who knows?" In other words, no promises, but just an open mind.
By having such an attitude, you open the door to many, many non-PFP girls who will do just about anything for the possibility of love and marriage, and immediate cash payment is not a major priority. This is not to say that we should not help the girls financially here and there within reason, but why not tap that wonderful resource of marriage-minded ladies?
I know that this mindset is not dishonest or immoral because, after "sowing my wild oats" with dozens of young, sexy non-P4P Filipinas, there was one who, somehow, ended up capturing my heart. I married her 7 years ago, and we are still very happy together. I still enjoy reading this forum, and sometimes my wife and I get a kick reading the exploits of you guys on here. We visit the Philippines every year or so. About a year ago, at my wife's suggestion, we played a "game" where she went into MBC, and I went in a couple of minutes later to "pick her up," and take her back to our hotel for some fun.
Sometimes I miss the "good ol' days," but I just couldn't live with myself if I ever broke my little lady's heart.
RG
El Cubanito
07-31-12, 23:23
I wasn't only referring to you being a cheapskate; rather to your posts in general (like the above) which suggest someone similar to D Cups.
Completely different. It will be much easier for a girl to borrow a couple of hundred pesos for the bus or jeepney than a couple of thousand for a plane ticket. So your comments really have nothing to do with what we are talking about. If the girl is trying to scam you, there is no way she can get money for a ticket purchased with a credit card. I have purchased many plane tickets for girls and was never ripped off. I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED ONCE, when sending CASH for a ferry ticket. I ended up losing around $20 and chalked it up to experience.David we are now on the same page. I know I will not get scam on the plane ticket purchase, but once I found out that she only wanted only 200 peso for her transportation fees. I was very ok with that. Maybe she she still will scam me, but why scam somebody over 200 peso or $5 US Dollar? If I lose the $50 then yes I will also chalked it up to experience. If I start crying over losing $50, then I am the cheapstake that you claim that I am. Let see what happens, I will know on Monday of next week.
El Cubanito
07-31-12, 23:33
We are dealing here with mostly young poor girls. This is how DIA became famous for mongers. Even the girls have learned the trick of how to make money. Not all the girls are honest however. All of my girls joined DIA hoping to meet a foreigner and hoping for marriage and get out of Phi or atleast get a foreigner to support them. They told me they have a aunt, friend or cousin who is married to a foreigner and living well. Remember part of their duty in life is to support their family. None of these girls are under the illusion that marriage will take place soon. Along the way they have learned to exchange sex for money and gifts. It is not unheard of girls who have many boyfriends visiting. But at they same time they do not like to work in a bar or branded as prostitutes.
IMHO I start chatting about 2 months before my trip. Any longer the girls are not interested. Ofcourse initially they all say they are good girls and will not have sex with me-blah, blah, blah. On continued chatting they are willing to meet me and stay with me. Ofcourse there are some who will never agree.
Of those willing to meet their next query is they do not have any money for travel expenses. If I am in Manila or Cebu and the girl is local I ask them to borrow money to come and see me. If it is a province girl I send air-ticket and about 1000 pesos. My trick is to tell them I will bring a camera or cell phone as a gift.
Only one time one girl failed to show up after I sent 2500 pesos. This is because I had problem using my cedit card on Cebu Pacific (Those days they would not accept any foreign credit card). And she had the audacity to request another 2500 pesos for some emergency giving the reason her mother is in hospital so she could not meet me.
Otherwise I have met upwards of 25 girls, some local, some from provinces. I still have 4 of my favourite girls I use as back up. Always willing to take a chance on new ones.
Irrespective of how much homework you do, you can end up with bad apples.
IMHO only with local girls you have better luck with not sending money before meeting. Province girls are the best I have found besides they are more friendly because they are away from prying eyes of their hometown.Thank you for the advice
Go "moderate" yourself, David. By "moderate" I mean substitute any expletive you want. You don't know me and I don't care to know the likes of you. It just so happens I've wired plenty of cash to a Filipina and an Indonesian girl that I met and know. Keep banging those skinny ugly F3 leftovers. More beauties for me and my wingmen! Hahaha!
I have always respected your posts, but you do not know me or my spending habits. I do not mind sending money to girls to meet me. What I do mind is being taken for a sucker. I know that on this trip I will have loses but I am trying to minimize it as much as possible, but I will still have it because I do not know all of the scams games. Is this so bad for me to do my homework?
BrainDrain
08-01-12, 05:35
Hi Red,
One has to wonder if the same applies to their work. Sheesh. I hope she took care of you.The Pinay that work with me have different way with time. They are generally ontime. I have noticed however that they have little concept of planning or using calendars for forward planning. So if I say something will happen on a certain date in the future, logically my western workers put it on the diary. My Pinay's don't seem to plan mich more than 1 day ahead.
Stroker Ace88
08-01-12, 05:35
[SNIP] What do you think about this girl from Iligan who wants money to travel from Iligan to Cebu to meet me.The easiest way to get from Iligan to Cebu City is by taking a ferry and cheaper than booking a flight. Cebu-Iligan-Ozamiz. If I remember correctly it's a Cokaliong ferry and it operates a few times per week. Tourist class ferry ticket should be around 1200p and that includes a simple bed and aircon. There are cheaper rates that do not include a bed or aircon, but she will arrive in Cebu tired and not in a good mood for any fun since the kuripot foreigner didn't want to provide her with a place to sleep or aircon on the ferry.
Enjoy Cebu.
Tally Wacker
08-01-12, 06:01
I have to agree its odd that he allows himself to take cheapshots at others but moderates to protect f3 since he was passed some girls. I wonder how many other posts were blocked besides mine in response to the self stroking going on in the pg chit chat thread?
Go "moderate" yourself, David. By "moderate" I mean substitute any expletive you want. You don't know me and I don't care to know the likes of you. It just so happens I've wired plenty of cash to a Filipina and an Indonesian girl that I met and know. Keep banging those skinny ugly F3 leftovers. More beauties for me and my wingmen! Hahaha!
The Pinay that work with me have different way with time. They are generally ontime. I have noticed however that they have little concept of planning or using calendars for forward planning. So if I say something will happen on a certain date in the future, logically my western workers put it on the diary. My Pinay's don't seem to plan mich more than 1 day ahead.Yes BD. Generally pinoys and pinays who work for foreigners (as is the case in my experience) are very punctual about time and I have found that they are fantastic professionals who work hard and are very loyal.
One quirky and rather dysfunctional thing they all do though is to put their wrist watches 10 minutes ahead. The office wall clock is always 10 minutes ahead. When I notice it I turn it back to the correct time and next thing I notice it is again advanced to 10 minutes ahead. It has now become a bit of a joke in my office and I have not made a big issue about it as they are always at work early; we don't have a punch-clock and we look more at completing outputs rather than how long is the work session.
I have tried and tried to gently discuss the logic of this with so many pinoys but they persist with this rather crazy habit. The explanation always given is that it means they will not be late but as we all know it doesn't work very well.
Member #4351
08-01-12, 15:40
I have to agree its odd that he allows himself to take cheapshots at others but moderates to protect f3 since he was passed some girls. I wonder how many other posts were blocked besides mine in response to the self stroking going on in the pg chit chat thread?Are you hallucinating? I'm glad you are enjoying all of D Cups illustrative and informative posts.
If you have posts which have disappeared, it wasn't my doing. Maybe someone discovered that hijacked photos were being posted. I don't think I have ever mentioned you, since I don't know you and you don't seem very interesting to me. I DO KNOW F3 and Mortman personally, and therefore intervened in their argument. I have also seen F3's girls and know that HIS PHOTOS have actually been taken by him.
Tally Wacker
08-01-12, 16:13
Hmm well if I'm wrong sorry and no big deal it was only an observation. Just posted some more questionable photos enjoy and don't get so worked up.
Are you hallucinating? I'm glad you are enjoying all of D Cups illustrative and informative posts.
If you have posts which have disappeared, it wasn't my doing.
WestCoast1
08-01-12, 18:34
I wasn't only referring to you being a cheapskate; rather to your posts in general (like the above) which suggest someone similar to D Cups.
Completely different. It will be much easier for a girl to borrow a couple of hundred pesos for the bus or jeepney than a couple of thousand for a plane ticket. So your comments really have nothing to do with what we are talking about. If the girl is trying to scam you, there is no way she can get money for a ticket purchased with a credit card. I have purchased many plane tickets for girls and was never ripped off. I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED ONCE, when sending CASH for a ferry ticket. I ended up losing around $20 and chalked it up to experience.Not so different. I've had multiple girls borrow over 1000 (and 1500, trykes, busses, Cokaliong, foods) to get to me. Even borrowing 300 is difficult for some girls, which is why I give them the RT amount of travel expenses almost the moment I meet them, even before suggesting we get off to the hotel (in case she doesn't like me and wants to go home). Of course you can purchase the ticket with your CC to protect yourself, but you are almost certainly going to have to wire her some other traveling money (ie, getting to an airport, food, possibly hotel if she busses also, etc.). Some gents will have success with this, and some will get burned on occasion. I've been burned, and just decided not to do it anymore.
One of the lessons I learned was this: when girls have a dating profile that says she's in this city or that city, its often times not quite true. She is really in a surrounding nearby city. She just used the larger city name. For instance, her profile says CDO. Really she lives in or near Iligan (2 hour bus trip) or similar nearby place. She's agreed in chat to the meet-and-bang. I arrive in CDO and txt her my whereabouts, asking if she can come the next day. Surprise: she needs bus money. WTF? Two weeks of chat, you didn't think to mention that? Well, its like filipine time, they aren't always honest. Sorry hun. You borrow that p200 and get your pretty self to my hotel by 2pm tomorrow, or contact me when you can. The lesson learned: Always ask in chat their actual physical location. Also make known in chat before you arrive: she must provide her own transport (this will quickly ascertain the first part, her location).2x reimbursed by me upon arrival. This is my thing, not necessarily for everyone. BTW, many girls can't borrow or provide their own transport: see 'ya. Remember, on dating sites, you can be quite selective, as there are so many that will contact you.
A previous poster mentioned that if you don't provide the transport, the girls won't come to you. True, but you don't need to provide it in advance. Another poster mentioned that you should pay the 1200 for her to ride the Cokaliong with a bed and aircon (its 10 hours ride) , to prevent her from being too tired and thinking your koripot. Yes, and no. She will be less tired. But if you wire her, say. 1500 or 2000 for her trip (don't forget the foods and incidentals) for a p1200 room, she will do something quite different with the money. She will step off the boat looking happy to see you. But she will have purchased the p850 ticket, no room, no aircon. She will bring food in her purse from home, so as not to pay for expensive snacks on the ship. She will pocket the other 1150. In the same way, if you put a pinay in a taxi in Malate, going to say Taguig, and hand her p200 for the ride, she will take the taxi 2 blocks, pay the p40 meter, step out, and jeep back to Taguig for p18, and pocket the rest. This is how they tend to get around. If you send her p4000 for airline ticket, and you go to the airport to meet her, she might not be there. You will txt, and get one back: "My flight arrive early. I'm jeep now to your hotel." Don't be surprised: she took the Cokaliong yesterday and stayed the night with her cousin, for p700. When you finally meet her: "My first airplane. Exciting!"
I will PM you with something regarding this.
I have to agree its odd that he allows himself to take cheapshots at others but moderates to protect f3 since he was passed some girls. I wonder how many other posts were blocked besides mine in response to the self stroking going on in the pg chit chat thread?David is a mod on his own forum, not the philippine area. As for self stroking I think your the champion of that you started here boasting about some girl you know and followed up with services they give you (go read playboy and stroke more and think up more stories). I and others post about experiances with the different culture from what I know from living here 5 years, I also do not rent out my girls. If any guy meets me like a true monger I give out contacts of girls who want $$, seems the trolls always gang up to attack the guys who help the board, dcups is another I would not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on if he was on fire.
Tally Wacker
08-02-12, 06:26
Can we get a translator over here?
I and others post about experiances with the different culture from what I know from living here 5 years, I also do not rent out my girls.
FreebieFan
08-02-12, 06:47
, dcups is another I would not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on if he was on fire.Guess that nicely defines the type of wonderful human being that you are. Or arent.
Bottom line is we want the girls to come and stay with us. Some girls will spend money to come and be with you. Some girls will ask for money even if they can manage it. For them the logics is you are the rich foreigner and should send money for expenses. At the same time they are gauzing you to see how generous you are.
One manila girl wanted me to send 200 pesos for taxi. I told her she can take a jeepney to Robinson ermita for 20 pesos and I will meet her there. However she managed to take a jeepney and come to my hotel.
Phi girls are generally thrifty and know what is the cheapest way.
Couple of Leyte girls took the slow ferry from Ormoc in spite of me sending enough money to take supercat. They even wanted to give me money back deducting expenses.
You meet all kinds of girls. However almost all in chat sites are poor looking for a way out.
Glad to say one of my Leyte girl got a nice job and does not ask for support anymore. She even spends money to buy load and goes shopping and buys me some small gifts. It does not mean I do not give her money.
I have given money to all my chatmates depending on the number of days they stay with me.
I am not the one to take advantage of them and besides they are quite happy when I give them few thousand pesos. If I like the girl or if I see the girl with few dresses, torn shoes etc I tend to be generous.
There is no reason for any of us from other countries to nickle and dime these girls.
Bottom line is we want the girls to come and stay with us. There is no reason for any of us from other countries to nickle and dime these girls.The key points are in those two sentences. I agree.
dcups is another I would not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on if he was on fire.Thank you for not pissing on me, Frenzy. I promise to do the same.
To my other mates, I'll be in Malate Oct 3. 5, Angeles 17. 19, and Makati 24-26 if anyone wants to wing it with me! Cheers!
BrainDrain
08-03-12, 06:03
. But if you wire her, say. 1500 or 2000 for her trip (don't forget the foods and incidentals) for a p1200 room, she will do something quite different with the money. She will step off the boat looking happy to see you. But she will have purchased the p850 ticket, no room, no aircon. She will bring food in her purse from home, so as not to pay for expensive snacks on the ship. She will pocket the other 1150. In the same way, if you put a pinay in a taxi in Malate, going to say Taguig, and hand her p200 for the ride, she will take the taxi 2 blocks, pay the p40 meter, step out, and jeep back to Taguig for p18, and pocket the rest. This is how they tend to get around. If you send her p4000 for airline ticket, and you go to the airport to meet her, she might not be there. You will txt, and get one back: "My flight arrive early. I'm jeep now to your hotel." Don't be surprised: she took the Cokaliong yesterday and stayed the night with her cousin, for p700. When you finally meet her: "My first airplane. Exciting!"I've often about this about why it is so frustrating when they are supposedly 'in taxi', 'waiting taxi' etc.
Then I take it a little further and think how generous they are when taking money from my wallet to pay taxi, give driver tips, pay extra food, tips for resto etc. The extreme I was think is saying "here is P4, 000 you pay our taxis and food, then you keep the change.
BD
A cute pic for dia sexy_rachel, but then go to her FB and there is a gal a bit chubby and with her "baby". DIA profile says no kids. Hmmm. And earlier I followed a dia gal to her FB and there she is with her Filipino bf pictures. Don't they realize how easy it is to get to their FB?
If I spent as much time studying Tagalog as I do window shopping at dia, I would be much better prepared to get laid on the next trip. Ha, ha.
A cute pic for dia sexy_rachel, but then go to her FB and there is a gal a bit chubby and with her "baby". DIA profile says no kids. Hmmm. And earlier I followed a dia gal to her FB and there she is with her Filipino bf pictures. Don't they realize how easy it is to get to their FB?
If I spent as much time studying Tagalog as I do window shopping at dia, I would be much better prepared to get laid on the next trip. Ha, ha.I agree that it's important to verify on FB if possible. About 25% of the time I'm able to find the DIA girl on FB using an email address or name and location. Most of these girls don't even know about privacy settings and you can get to their entire collection of photos and personal data. You can find out all sorts of things on FB. Sometimes you see a surprising relationship status or children that weren't mentioned. Or the DIA profile pic is 10 years old. At a minimum you can see what they look like from the neck down. You can get some idea about lifestyle and their circle of friends. Sometimes that sweet college girl is actually a real party girl. A couple of weeks ago I discovered that a "civilian" was very clearly a working girl. Her FB was packed with photos of her in her "working clothes" in the bar and in hotel rooms. (The pics of her french kissing another bar girl while chugging tequila shots was a bit of giveaway.) Every now and then you find just the reverse-the lady with the DIA profile pic actually is much better looking in a natural setting. Fore-warned is fore-armed, as they say.
BrainDrain
08-06-12, 00:23
I agree that it's important to verify on FB if possible. About 25% of the time I'm able to find the DIA girl on FB using an email address or name and location. Most of these girls don't even know about privacy settings and you can get to their entire collection of photos and personal data. You can find out all sorts of things on FB. Sometimes you see a surprising relationship status or children that weren't mentioned. Or the DIA profile pic is 10 years old. At a minimum you can see what they look like from the neck down. You can get some idea about lifestyle and their circle of friends. Sometimes that sweet college girl is actually a real party girl. A couple of weeks ago I discovered that a "civilian" was very clearly a working girl. Her FB was packed with photos of her in her "working clothes" in the bar and in hotel rooms. (The pics of her french kissing another bar girl while chugging tequila shots was a bit of giveaway.) Every now and then you find just the reverse-the lady with the DIA profile pic actually is much better looking in a natural setting. Fore-warned is fore-armed, as they say.Just last week this also worked for me in reverse. In clear contravention of the FB terms of use I maintain two FB profiles. One of the real me and one of the Phil's mongering gent.
I missed one of the FB privacy settings to do with visibility if my FB friends to public. Fb always err to make everything 'public' by default, Google + it's private by default.
Anyway, within the day I was getting questioned by one of my honies whom had analysed my mongering prospect list. Who's Honey, Who's Chika, Who's Angelina? Etc etc.
As Wazoo says, things can be tracked easily through email addresses in FB. Now when setting up a mongering FB profile I use an unrelated clean email address unlinked to any of my other activities.
Of course if we confirm she's a stunner, then we have to queue up behing the 200 other guys who have msgd her.
BTW, Tagged Maryrose C 24 mnl tells me those bikini pictures are not really her.
I agree that it's important to verify on FB if possible. About 25% of the time I'm able to find the DIA girl on FB using an email address or name and location. Most of these girls don't even know about privacy settings and you can get to their entire collection of photos and personal data. You can find out all sorts of things on FB. Sometimes you see a surprising relationship status or children that weren't mentioned. Or the DIA profile pic is 10 years old. At a minimum you can see what they look like from the neck down. You can get some idea about lifestyle and their circle of friends. Sometimes that sweet college girl is actually a real party girl. A couple of weeks ago I discovered that a "civilian" was very clearly a working girl. Her FB was packed with photos of her in her "working clothes" in the bar and in hotel rooms. (The pics of her french kissing another bar girl while chugging tequila shots was a bit of giveaway.) Every now and then you find just the reverse-the lady with the DIA profile pic actually is much better looking in a natural setting. Fore-warned is fore-armed, as they say.
If you are not currently in Manila then you should know that most of Metro Manila has been hit by an incredible volume of rain in the past week.
Much of the place is flooded today, and even the NLEX (the highway to AC) is cut by floodwaters.
You can expect many requests for assistance if you have cell phone or chatmates.
My CP and various contacts on YM etc have been running hot all day with pleas for assistance.
Unfortunately, having watched the carnage on TV ans seeing where the floods are worst, I know that a huge percentage of these pleas are genuine.
One woman from Fairview even sent me a photo showing her and her family on the roof with water swirling around about 1 meter below the roof.
Just a heads-up that it really is serious here so be a little gentle if you get all manner of requests for help.
Don't try to call the girls out on it as chances are they really have been flooded out. If you are still cynical, google "Philippines Inquirer" "or Philippines Star" and check out the breaking news.
July / August. I pay a little extra and fly direct to Cebu. RK, if you are in MM, stay dry! The Philippines just doesn't seem to get any good luck at all. X.
If you are not currently in Manila then you should know that most of Metro Manila has been hit by an incredible volume of rain in the past week.
Much of the place is flooded today, and even the NLEX (the highway to AC) is cut by floodwaters.
You can expect many requests for assistance if you have cell phone or chatmates.
My CP and various contacts on YM etc have been running hot all day with pleas for assistance.
Unfortunately, having watched the carnage on TV ans seeing where the floods are worst, I know that a huge percentage of these pleas are genuine.
One woman from Fairview even sent me a photo showing her and her family on the roof with water swirling around about 1 meter below the roof.
Just a heads-up that it really is serious here so be a little gentle if you get all manner of requests for help.
Don't try to call the girls out on it as chances are they really have been flooded out. If you are still cynical, google "Philippines Inquirer" "or Philippines Star" and check out the breaking news.
Mr Enternational
08-07-12, 18:00
If you are not currently in Manila then you should know that most of Metro Manila has been hit by an incredible volume of rain in the past week.
Much of the place is flooded today, and even the NLEX (the highway to AC) is cut by floodwaters.
You can expect many requests for assistance if you have cell phone or chatmates.Yep. Just got a message from the chick I took to Palawan with me a few months back.
Montalla: soo busy huh. Hi baby its flooding here
Member #4491
08-07-12, 23:31
Finally I will get my dream date with Karla Spice. Imagine to find her in Davao of all places.
http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5964407787
http://www.karlaspice.com/
Radical Guy
08-08-12, 01:21
What a disaster! How can the girls get to the Western Union office? LOL.
RG.
If you are not currently in Manila then you should know that most of Metro Manila has been hit by an incredible volume of rain in the past week.
Much of the place is flooded today, and even the NLEX (the highway to AC) is cut by floodwaters.
You can expect many requests for assistance if you have cell phone or chatmates.
My CP and various contacts on YM etc have been running hot all day with pleas for assistance.
Unfortunately, having watched the carnage on TV ans seeing where the floods are worst, I know that a huge percentage of these pleas are genuine.
One woman from Fairview even sent me a photo showing her and her family on the roof with water swirling around about 1 meter below the roof.
Just a heads-up that it really is serious here so be a little gentle if you get all manner of requests for help.
Don't try to call the girls out on it as chances are they really have been flooded out. If you are still cynical, google "Philippines Inquirer" "or Philippines Star" and check out the breaking news.
Cuba Tourist
08-08-12, 12:22
I arrived today. There was a typhoon in Manila said changing planes took a long time and involved a fair amount of drama!
I've had a much rougher time than most of the people here described. I had corresponded with many women on Date in Asia and had many phone numbers. I bought a Filipino Sim card and, after settling into my room, started calling them. Many didn't answer. The ones that answered said they were busy and wanted to meet later in the week. One woman wanted to come for dinner at the Marco Polo and bring her male friend. All of them seem to be very careful to avoid being in a situation that might become sexual. Some live far away. Reception was terrible on many of the calls. Lots of them wanted to start texting on the phone the way we had been texting on the website. It was a lot of work without any results at all. I have been here a few times before but I had a girlfriend and I pretty much saw her exclusively. I had worked out in my mind how I would date lots of Date in Asia girls if I were single, but am finding it more trouble than it's worth, at least so far. I have some leads and I'm sure it will get easier over the next few days.
If there are any ex-pats living here that would like to get together, I would love to have a drink together. Just private message me here.
I arrived today. There was a typhoon in Manila said changing planes took a long time and involved a fair amount of drama!
I've had a much rougher time than most of the people here described.You shouldn't be surprised CT.
Nobody can get around in Manila at present, and many (most?) of the girls on DIA live in the very areas that are flooded (that is, the poorer less salubrious areas).
I could not even get from Ortigas to Makati today for a business meeting because my business car is marooned in the north and no taxi wanted to go there as they said too many roads are flooded.
I thought we gave you plenty of advance warning on posts here.
Just sit tight until later in the week or the weekend when the sun comes out and they will be flooding to meet you (pun intended). They will all be desperate for cash too so don't be a cheap charlie.
WestCoast1
08-08-12, 15:11
I've had a much rougher time than most of the people here described. I had corresponded with many women on Date in Asia and had many phone numbers. I bought a Filipino Sim card and, after settling into my room, started calling them. Many didn't answer. The ones that answered said they were busy and wanted to meet later in the week. One woman wanted to come for dinner at the Marco Polo and bring her male friend. All of them seem to be very careful to avoid being in a situation that might become sexual. Some live far away. Reception was terrible on many of the calls. Lots of them wanted to start texting on the phone the way we had been texting on the website. It was a lot of work without any results at all. I have been here a few times before but I had a girlfriend and I pretty much saw her exclusively. I had worked out in my mind how I would date lots of Date in Asia girls if I were single, but am finding it more trouble than it's worth, at least so far. I have some leads and I'm sure it will get easier over the next few days.Ignoring the rain, CT, I think you will find this is how it goes all the time. I posted a year ago about going to northern mindanao provincial town my first time, having a list of 19 names / phone numbers of local girls, each of whom agreed in advance to the no-nonsense meet-and-fuck. All 19 of them, over two days, either refused to meet, or when we met she backed out. A pleasant coffee at Starbucks or Bo's Coffee, followed often times by the girl claiming she never agreed to go to my hotel (yes she did, she contacted my playboy dating profile, the one that says I'm only interested in sex). That was about half the girls; the other half made excuses not to meet. I've had better luck since then, but at that time what a waste of my time / effort. Sometimes, this is the way it goes.
Nice one. Have fun, Barba.
Finally I will get my dream date with Karla Spice. Imagine to find her in Davao of all places.
http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5964407787
http://www.karlaspice.com/
Let me begin by saying that I'm a skeptical sort of person, especially when it comes to meeting Filipinas online. A couple of months ago I initiated contact with a 23 year old girl on DIA with a photo that looked too good to be true. She was surprisingly friendly. When we got on cam, I was shocked that she looked every bit as good as her profile pic. This girl is hot! In our first chat, she sent me lots of pretty photos of herself, including one clothed but naughty one to get me hooked. In the second chat session, she sent me a few bikini shots. When I responded positively to do those, she sent me some explicit nude shots. At this point I'm thinking that she's either a cam girl, a pro, or a scammer setting me up. But I was having fun so decided to play along. We've been chatting regularly now for 2-3 months. She wants to have long chats, usually sneaking in a hot session late at night from her bedroom at home while her family is sleeping. She is a very very horny girl. She seems to get off by stripping on cam and having explicit talk about sex. She likes getting me hard and then wants to see it on cam. I've seen a lot of fake passion in my day, but this seems genuine. She gets dripping wet and her face just drips with lust. She's asked me to carve out several days when I visit Manila. She doesn't want to go out but just wants to spend the days in bed. She has a long list of fantasies she wants to explore.
I'm skeptical, of course. In my world hot 23 year olds don't get horny in cam sessions with middle-aged guys. I'm reasonably good looking and in a professional career, but no Brad Pitt. I'm sure I'm just one guy in her rotation. I actually prefer that because I don't need another clingy girlfriend. She says she doesn't want a relationship but just enjoys playing around now. She admits that she records or sessions and uses them later when she plays with herself. I was worried about being recorded, but she doesn't even know my full name or even city of residence. She has no interest in finding out more details of my life. She's never even mentioned money. Her parents own a fish market in the Manila area and she seems to be financially comfortable. She doesn't want to talk about family problems or her personal life-just sex talk and play.
So right now I'm just enjoying the ride. I don't trust the situation completely, but I don't see much risk at this point. Am I just incredibly lucky or is this some sort of long-term setup? Am I missing something?
This girl no longer has a profile up on DIA and I won't post her photos on the public board. She asked me not to do that.
Let me begin by saying that I'm a skeptical sort of person, especially when it comes to meeting Filipinas online. A couple of months ago I initiated contact with a 23 year old girl on DIA with a photo that looked too good to be true. She was surprisingly friendly. When we got on cam, I was shocked that she looked every bit as good as her profile pic. This girl is hot! In our first chat, she sent me lots of pretty photos of herself, including one clothed but naughty one to get me hooked. In the second chat session, she sent me a few bikini shots. When I responded positively to do those, she sent me some explicit nude shots. At this point I'm thinking that she's either a cam girl, a pro, or a scammer setting me up. But I was having fun so decided to play along. We've been chatting regularly now for 2-3 months. She wants to have long chats, usually sneaking in a hot session late at night from her bedroom at home while her family is sleeping. She is a very very horny girl. She seems to get off by stripping on cam and having explicit talk about sex. She likes getting me hard and then wants to see it on cam. I've seen a lot of fake passion in my day, but this seems genuine. She gets dripping wet and her face just drips with lust. She's asked me to carve out several days when I visit Manila. She doesn't want to go out but just wants to spend the days in bed. She has a long list of fantasies she wants to explore.
I'm skeptical, of course. In my world hot 23 year olds don't get horny in cam sessions with middle-aged guys. I'm reasonably good looking and in a professional career, but no Brad Pitt. I'm sure I'm just one guy in her rotation. I actually prefer that because I don't need another clingy girlfriend. She says she doesn't want a relationship but just enjoys playing around now. She admits that she records or sessions and uses them later when she plays with herself. I was worried about being recorded, but she doesn't even know my full name or even city of residence. She has no interest in finding out more details of my life. She's never even mentioned money. Her parents own a fish market in the Manila area and she seems to be financially comfortable. She doesn't want to talk about family problems or her personal life-just sex talk and play.
So right now I'm just enjoying the ride. I don't trust the situation completely, but I don't see much risk at this point. Am I just incredibly lucky or is this some sort of long-term setup? Am I missing something?
This girl no longer has a profile up on DIA and I won't post her photos on the public board. She asked me not to do that.Good girls do not like to record sex acts. Most of my normal girlfriends will not allow any naked pictures. Sometimes they show boobs and pussy on cam while chatting before meeting to get me interested but on meeting refused any naked pics.
It is possible this girl will do anything on cam to get you interested besides these young girls are generally bored. Only after meeting real situation will appear.
As long as she is not asking for money just meet her and see. If she gives you good service you got a gf.
Chocha Monger
08-08-12, 23:40
She admits that she records or sessions and uses them later when she plays with herself. I was worried about being recorded, but she doesn't even know my full name or even city of residence. She has no interest in finding out more details of my life. She's never even mentioned money. Her parents own a fish market in the Manila area and she seems to be financially comfortable. She doesn't want to talk about family problems or her personal life-just sex talk and play.
So right now I'm just enjoying the ride. I don't trust the situation completely, but I don't see much risk at this point. Am I just incredibly lucky or is this some sort of long-term setup? Am I missing something?
This girl no longer has a profile up on DIA and I won't post her photos on the public board. She asked me not to do that.Sounds like you're being set up for the long con. Seems like she is recording the footage of you beating off to upload to a gay porn site. Beating off your dick as some stranger records it over the internet is not very bright.
Stroker Ace88
08-09-12, 00:13
I arrived today. There was a typhoon in Manila said changing planes took a long time and involved a fair amount of drama!As you may or may not have known it's the rainy season in the Philippines and the country averages around 10 typhoons and-or named tropical depressions per season. Many more "tail end of cold front conversions". All of these storms can bring about heavy rain and localized flooding. You are lucky the flight you booked was allowed to land in NAIA and with the flooding in and around MNL, lucky you could switch planes at all.
I've had a much rougher time than most of the people here described. I had corresponded with many women on Date in Asia and had many phone numbers. I bought a Filipino Sim card and, after settling into my room, started calling them. Many didn't answer. The ones that answered said they were busy and wanted to meet later in the week.Mistake number one. Never call a filipina it's a waste of time and pesos. Text her, it's much cheaper! She will not answer the incoming call if she has no clue who it's from and if she did answer your call, it will quickly use up all her load. Text text text!
Just a tip. I do not know what brand SIM card you bought, but if you use one brand (example Globe) and the filipina uses another brand (example Sun) it's an out of network call or text. That's more expensive and many filipinas can look at the number and tell what network you are using. Many will not accept out of network texts or calls because of the increased cost.
Also some filipinas have dual SIM phones. So they often have two of the three major network SIM's on there phone (Globe, Sun, Smart) , but that still leaves you a 33percent chance she is out of network.
Another reason some filipinas will not reply, they are using a 24hr unlimited text inter-network load. It gives the user unlimited SUN-SUN Globe-Globe and Smart-Smart text within the 24hr period. So for example one of the filipinas you contacted was using a Sun SIM and she had opted for the 24hr unlimited text plan and you texted her from a Globe SIM it would eat her load if she sent you a reply text and as a result her 24 unlimited plan would be cancelled if she reached a zero balance.
Anyways, you arrived in the middle of a typhoon with major flooding and disruption. They do not care about some guy that contated them awhile back on DIA, they care about the present. About the safety and security of family and friends.
One woman wanted to come for dinner at the Marco Polo and bring her male friend. All of them seem to be very careful to avoid being in a situation that might become sexual. Some live far away. Reception was terrible on many of the calls. Lots of them wanted to start texting on the phone the way we had been texting on the website. It was a lot of work without any results at all. I have been here a few times before but I had a girlfriend and I pretty much saw her exclusively. I had worked out in my mind how I would date lots of Date in Asia girls if I were single, but am finding it more trouble than it's worth, at least so far. I have some leads and I'm sure it will get easier over the next few days.As Westcoast informed you below, many filipinas will say anything online. They will agree to all sorts of things but very few will stick to there words when you show up. You have to understand that there are thousands and thousands of guys on the dating websites and a very low percentage are guys will ever get on a plane. Most just want an online GF, someone who will show them there tits and blow them a kiss and make them feel young again while there wife is gone out shopping. Some are serious "hope-a-trons" (Mike the mouth Matusow's term not mine). They sit in there parents basement behind a comp screen and rub there unit raw dreaming about young asian beaver they will never get.
IMO you have a better chance if you chat with the filipinas for a few weeks before your trip and create more of a bond. If you just chatted once or sent a few messages back and forth you will not have alot of luck. You have to get a filipina excited that you will really come to visit her and that you want to spend time with her. Anyways that's my thought. YMMV.
Or just go to a bar. That's what I do and it works almost every time.
WestCoast1
08-09-12, 01:08
As Westcoast informed you below, many filipinas will say anything online. They will agree to all sorts of things but very few will stick to there words when you show up.Correct. Of the roughly 10 (of 19 mentioned below) that I actually met for a drink, then suggested after the drink we head over to the hotel, and were not interested. They looked surprised that I even mentioned it. When I reminded them we talked online of going to the hotel for fun, they would say things like: "No. Never I said that." And,"No. I did not agree that. I go home now." Later, in chat, I would send them the chat transcript, where they had agreed:
Me: so we are sure, you're ok to playing [or having sex] with me in my hotel after we have a drink.
Girl: yes I will like that.
Me: are you sure? Remember I said we will take nawty pictures.
Girl: yes its fun.
Once they see that chat transcript, they say things right then, like: "Ok. Yes. I said it. But I did not mean it then." There you have it from the horse's mouth: she will lie knowingly, and not admit it until caught, and you will have flown halfway around the world to see her.
Radical Guy
08-09-12, 02:49
She will not answer the incoming call if she has no clue who it's from and if she did answer your call, it will quickly use up all her load. Text text text!Typically, the load is used up only if the girl places the call, not if she receives it, at least with SMART. When I was mongering, I always liked to hear a girl's voice. Of course, webcam technology wasn't as sophisticated back then.
Capt Munch
08-09-12, 03:21
Mistake number one. Never call a filipina it's a waste of time and pesos. Text her, it's much cheaper! She will not answer the incoming call if she has no clue who it's from and if she did answer your call, it will quickly use up all her load. Text text text! YMMV.To the best of my recollection. (and those long time PI residents can chime in) Incoming calls are free, the caller is the one that incurs the cost of the phone call. This differs from the way USA is set up where both parties on the call are incurring minutes. It might be useful to text her first with you CP# so as to eliminate the confusion on her end as to the unknown caller, she can save the number to her phone and when you call it will light up with your "handle".
Hehehe. When I am running low on load. I get my friends to call me so I can save load (and that is in Phils with a Phils Globe phone)
The unlimited Text in-network is popular and I have seen some of these unlimited text days priced at 20 pesos a day, cheap and the young lady gets lots of opportunities to text all her girlfriends ad nauseum. If they are on that plan. You probably won't be getting a text back or you will get a request to "pass load" so they can load their phone up at your cost.
Again my recollection. In-Network texts are usually 1 peso per message and out-of network text message are 2 pesos.
The filipinas DO like to text. I think a few of my gf's know how to text in their sleep. Talaga.
Just my piso ($0. 025)
Munch
Good girls do not like to record sex acts. Most of my normal girlfriends will not allow any naked pictures. Sometimes they show boobs and pussy on cam while chatting before meeting to get me interested but on meeting refused any naked pics. It is possible this girl will do anything on cam to get you interested besides these young girls are generally bored. Only after meeting real situation will appear.
As long as she is not asking for money just meet her and see. If she gives you good service you got a gf.I fully agree on the last part of your comment, but friendly disagree on the first sentence. Women, in general, can be naughty and have their own perversions, just as we have. Whether they let them through as we do (the man, the macho, needs to keep up to his profile, LOL) , or keep it more hidden, is another story. Seems she really get off in this game (as the guy says, he is skeptical himself, but still he tends to believe in what happens, so uses common sense) so why couldn't she be one of those girls going the extra mile?
I can share your comment that in private, face to face, they might become "shy", ie no pictures. But it is also because the protection fence given by the web is not there anymore. The web is a tool that induces us to loose inhibitions, when face to face we become real again.
Once they see that chat transcript, they say things right then, like: "Ok. Yes. I said it. But I did not mean it then." There you have it from the horse's mouth: she will lie knowingly, and not admit it until caught, and you will have flown halfway around the world to see her.This is why, respecting anybody's opinion and experience, in areas like SEA where pussy is reasonable available, better sort out the selection once you are there. It is nice and a time killer to spend free time online to select the next girl for your next trip, but there are a lot of troubles as such. Doesn't make sense to me. YMMV
Stroker Ace88
08-09-12, 06:59
Typically, the load is used up only if the girl places the call, not if she receives it, at least with SMART. When I was mongering, I always liked to hear a girl's voice. Of course, webcam technology wasn't as sophisticated back then.
To the best of my recollection. (and those long time PI residents can chime in) Incoming calls are free, the caller is the one that incurs the cost of the phone call. This differs from the way USA is set up where both parties on the call are incurring minutes. It might be useful to text her first with you CP# so as to eliminate the confusion on her end as to the unknown caller, she can save the number to her phone and when you call it will light up with your "handle".
Hehehe. When I am running low on load. I get my friends to call me so I can save load (and that is in Phils with a Phils Globe phone)
The unlimited Text in-network is popular and I have seen some of these unlimited text days priced at 20 pesos a day, cheap and the young lady gets lots of opportunities to text all her girlfriends ad nauseum. If they are on that plan. You probably won't be getting a text back or you will get a request to "pass load" so they can load their phone up at your cost.
Again my recollection. In-Network texts are usually 1 peso per message and out-of network text message are 2 pesos.
The filipinas DO like to text. I think a few of my gf's know how to text in their sleep. Talaga.
Just my piso ($0. 025)
MunchGuys,
I should of explained myself better. Yes in the Philippines only the sender of the phone call has load deducted and the person who answers the call pays nothing.
There have been widespread text scams spreading across the Philippines in the last year or so. It's kind of like spam. The scam text will say "you have won a prize, just text 1234 and enter the prize code". People who thought they won something would text back and they would get a reply text informing them they would get a call to verify there details. So the scammers call them and ask for personal details and they ask for small payment of transfer tax or whatever be sent. Some text scams would transfer load when the person punched in the code.
Now some scammers have moved directly to calling cell phones and they are using auto-dialers with a message telling the person who answers they won a prize and they instruct the winner to "enter code #1234 to claim your prize" or whatever. When the person punches in the code somehow it's a transfer load scam. Whatever they are doing they are scamming and making money. I know a few filipinas who tell me they are scared to answer a call if they don't know who is calling them because they fear there load will vanish.
Also never let a bargirl near your cell phone! I made that mistake. I loaded a 500p Globe card before I went to a Cebu bar a few years ago. A bargirl was sitting beside me and we talked for awhile and she asked to see my phone. She told me she was going to enter her cell number on my phone so we could hook up during the day without barfine. Later that night I tried to text someone and there was no load. She transfered the whole balance! Live and learn the hard way.
Both Smart and Globe have unlimited text plans.
For Smart unli text, see http://www1.smart.com.ph/prepaid/offers/unli/2011/09/12/unlitxt
If a girl is on a 1 or 2 or 3 day plan then that is why you might get anything up to 50 texts per hour if you keep responding to a texter.
If you want to call and text on Smart, see http://www1.smart.com.ph/prepaid/offers/unli/2011/09/12/unli-call-text
Globe is similar. See http://www.globe.com.ph/unlitxt Or http://www.globe.com.ph/prepaid/call-and-text-offers?jsid=ADF90A08853E431E05A8951A989F62FD.41344504106521
Both Smart and Globe have unlimited text plans.
For Smart unli text, see.
http://www1.smart.com.ph/prepaid/offers/unli/2011/09/12/unlitxt
If a girl is on a 1 or 2 or 3 day plan then that is why you might get anything up to 50 texts per hour if you keep responding to a texter.
If you want to call and text on Smart, see.
http://www1.smart.com.ph/prepaid/offers/unli/2011/09/12/unli-call-text
Globe is similar. See.
http://www.globe.com.ph/unlitxt
Or.
http://www.globe.com.ph/prepaid/call-and-text-offers?jsid=ADF90A08853E431E05A8951A989F62FD.41344504106521Most of the unli text and call are only for the same network operator.
And no one gets charged for receiving calls, I think the girls who do not answer calls are with some one and cannot talk, or have male voice
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