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Most of the unli text and call are only for the same network operator.Not if you read the fine print. Most of them allow you a certain number of texts and / or calls to other operators.
Simple etiquette that works well for me is to always text someone in advance and ask them if it is OK to call them in 5 minutes. Mostly they reply to such a text with either a "sure" or a "wait for 10, 20 30 mins etc".
I like people doing that for me. Most of my business associates, family and close friends know that if I don't answer on the 2nd or 3rd ring then I am busy and they call back again after an hour or so.
I agree, but don't forget the no load and low bat. Many times I've set up a meeting and the endless, mindless exchanges go on and on until either my phone or her phone reaches the limit. I think it was GE and a few others who suggested Filipinos are often not good at planning for the future. And in this case 1hr into the future we are supposed to meet, so not a good idea waste the load / bat.
Those of you who live outside Philippines, is there a cheap and efficient way to send messages to her phone thru the Internet? I've heard of Chika, but don't know much about it. I haven't set up my (older) Philippine phone (Smart) to do the global roaming thing, and my local phone won't do it either. X.
Most of the unli text and call are only for the same network operator.
And no one gets charged for receiving calls, I think the girls who do not answer calls are with some one and cannot talk, or have male voice
Mr Enternational
08-09-12, 12:03
Those of you who live outside Philippines, is there a cheap and efficient way to send messages to her phone thru the Internet?Whats App is the hot thing now (at least in Thailand and the USA) : http://www.whatsapp.com/
"WhatsApp Messenger is a cross-platform mobile messaging app which allows you to exchange messages without having to pay for SMS. WhatsApp Messenger is available for iPhone, BlackBerry, Android, Windows Phone and Nokia and yes, those phones can all message each other! Because WhatsApp Messenger uses the same internet data plan that you use for email and web browsing, there is no cost to message and stay in touch with your friends."
Member #4351
08-09-12, 15:19
a very low percentage are guys will ever get on a plane. Most just want an online GF, someone who will show them there tits and blow them a kiss and make them feel young again while there wife is gone out shopping...... and it appears as if we have more than a few of those guys posting on this thread.
I have been using Google SMS to send txt to girls phones in the PI. In a Google mail account, look for the "Labs" menu, and add the SMS plug in. They give you some credits, but you can re-load your credits free / cheap by sending a sms back to yourself.
The trouble I see is getting SMS FROM the girls. They can send to me, but its not free. Of course if a girl has a smartphone or laptop there are any number of ways to txt free. (Skype, Yahoo Messenger, Google, etc) In the end though, its often enough to SMS them,"can you come chat with me on Yahoo?" and they trot their pretty little asses down to the cafe.
Cunning Stunt
08-09-12, 15:36
http://www.dateinasia.com/sweetmarissa_18 is very specific about what she is not looking for on DIA.
be friends first and see how it goes x.
Perverts, horny old man, nasty and disgusting people who are here to find a camgirl? STAY AWAY!
Sorry but I am not into that stuff. Not my cup of tea I guess.That rules out 99.9% of ISG members then!
Guys,
There have been widespread text scams spreading across the Philippines in the last year or so. It's kind of like spam. The scam text will say "you have won a prize, just text 1234 and enter the prize code". People who thought they won something would text back and they would get a reply text informing them they would get a call to verify there details. So the scammers call them and ask for personal details and they ask for small payment of transfer tax or whatever be sent. Some text scams would transfer load when the person punched in the code.
Also never let a bargirl near your cell phone! I made that mistake. I loaded a 500p Globe card before I went to a Cebu bar a few years ago. A bargirl was sitting beside me and we talked for awhile and she asked to see my phone. She told me she was going to enter her cell number on my phone so we could hook up during the day without barfine. Later that night I tried to text someone and there was no load. She transfered the whole balance! Live and learn the hard way.There is a limit for load transfer per transfer. I believe it is 60 P. But the girl can repeat the procedure few times. Some carriers will restrict load transfer to the same phone number.
Also remember every time the load is transferred there is fee which will be deducted from load.
Wicked Roger
08-09-12, 17:39
. and it appears as if we have more than a few of those guys posting on this thread.Agreed.
Was with someone today who showed me the stuff an Irish guy was sending one of his chat mates. She was naive etc but the Irish guy was trying to get her to show rack out etc saying he was spending all this cash to visit her so he needed to see something first etc. We know the lines. The whole chat was more about how he could pick up any girl he wanted so "show me your tits so I know youa re the one"
Odd behaviour especially if can get any girl he wanted walking down the street and so unlikely ever to isit given his comments.
No wonder some / many don't trust us
Asian Rain
08-09-12, 18:35
. and it appears as if we have more than a few of those guys posting on this thread.There is nothing like the "here and now" for Filipinas. After a few hard months now on DIA, I have discovered that the best recipe for a date is proximity and availability. I have so many girls that have fallen to the bottom of my Inbox because it is so much easier to get a recent (I. E. Right now online) contact to hook up immediately. Case in point was the DIA Girl #1 from today. 40min after the first contact we were in Eurotel with my cock down her throat.
I have heard from more than a few girls that they quickly learn about the guys who are real timewasters. Forget about guys having a chat while the wife is away. Were talking about the hardcore losers like the identity who incessantly posts about big boobs, desperately hoping that Mother does not return early from church and find out what he is doing in the basement. These wannabes stalk the girls nearly 24x7 and there is nil chance that they will ever need a passport.
Many girls are getting smarter and asking the right questions. I. E. Where are you NOW? In fact, this is the #1 response I get to my first message. If you are in proximity and the girl is a player, you are more than likely going to get her CP number to make a date. If you are not near and don't have a local CP, the trail is likely to go cold. Making a date in advance is possible, but if you have contacted a girl more than a week before and send her a text saying that you have just arrived at your hotel and can she be there in an hour, you are more than likely going to get a "who dis" reply and have to start again. Here and now. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
Stroker Ace88
08-10-12, 01:16
Agreed. Was with someone today who showed me the stuff an Irish guy was sending one of his chat mates. She was naive etc but the Irish guy was trying to get her to show rack out etc saying he was spending all this cash to visit her so he needed to see something first etc. We know the lines. The whole chat was more about how he could pick up any girl he wanted so "show me your tits so I know youa re the one"
Odd behaviour especially if can get any girl he wanted walking down the street and so unlikely ever to isit given his comments.
No wonder some / many don't trust us
There is nothing like the "here and now" for Filipinas. After a few hard months now on DIA, I have discovered that the best recipe for a date is proximity and availability. I have so many girls that have fallen to the bottom of my Inbox because it is so much easier to get a recent (I. E. Right now online) contact to hook up immediately. Case in point was the DIA Girl #1 from today. 40min after the first contact we were in Eurotel with my cock down her throat.
I have heard from more than a few girls that they quickly learn about the guys who are real timewasters. Forget about guys having a chat while the wife is away. Were talking about the hardcore losers like the identity who incessantly posts about big boobs, desperately hoping that Mother does not return early from church and find out what he is doing in the basement. These wannabes stalk the girls nearly 24x7 and there is nil chance that they will ever need a passport.
Many girls are getting smarter and asking the right questions. I. E. Where are you NOW? In fact, this is the #1 response I get to my first message. If you are in proximity and the girl is a player, you are more than likely going to get her CP number to make a date. If you are not near and don't have a local CP, the trail is likely to go cold. Making a date in advance is possible, but if you have contacted a girl more than a week before and send her a text saying that you have just arrived at your hotel and can she be there in an hour, you are more than likely going to get a "who dis" reply and have to start again. Here and now. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRainClassic stuff gents! Seems like some of the other members who actually log flight miles instead of only cam smiles are also getting tired of all the online pretenders. Oh how they promise the moon and beyond to the filipinas and some eat it up while others have caught on to the internet trolls and quickly kick them to the curb.
I had a chatmate living in a smaller province town. We chatted for a few weeks off and on and then she told me she had a serious BF living in the USA. I aked her a few q's about the guy and within 5min I knew he was an online troll who had zero interest to get on a plane. I told her that the next time she chatted with him she should ask him to show his drivers licence to her on cam. She asked me what for. I told her because it will have his real name, state and address on it. She asked me to wait a few minutes because she was chatting with him at the same time as me. I was watching her cam and I could see her typing away. The look on her face was becoming more and more serious. She continued our chat and told me what had happened. The guy lived in a different state and town and his real name was not the name he told her. I felt bad for her, she was in tears. She told me they were chatting for over a year and he always wanted to see her body on cam and he promised to come visit and they would get married but he wanted to wait for the right moment. But always the trip was pushed back because of some excuse. Losers who promise marriage to filipinas online are the worst scum. No need to lie.
A few weeks go by and I sent her a message and asked her if she wanted to meet me because I would be visiting her town within a few days. She was shocked and told me she wanted to meet. We met and it was her be-day a few days before so we went to a pizza hut for our lunch as my gift to her. She was a nice girl, and I could tell that she was the kind of girl who falls in love easy. I stayed a friend to her only since I had plans to meet another filipina later in the afternoon and another one later that evening.
I heard from her about a month later. She told me she had another online BF and she was in love again. Seems she didn't learn alot from her first troll BF.
Whats App is the hot thing now (at least in Thailand and the USA) :
http://www.whatsapp.com/
"WhatsApp Messenger is a cross-platform mobile messaging app which allows you to exchange messages without having to pay for SMS. WhatsApp Messenger is available for iPhone, BlackBerry, Android, Windows Phone and Nokia and yes, those phones can all message each other! Because WhatsApp Messenger uses the same internet data plan that you use for email and web browsing, there is no cost to message and stay in touch with your friends."Apple built a similar app into their last operating system, where iPhone to iPhone messages are sent over a data network (bypassing telcos).
Didn't change the world. Bb have had it for a long time.
The biggest problem with any FREE app is that you know someone has to pay for it which always means junk messages to me.
Mongrinastrlnd
08-10-12, 02:47
Those of you who live outside Philippines, is there a cheap and efficient way to send messages to her phone thru the Internet? I've heard of Chika, but don't know much about it. I haven't set up my (older) Philippine phone (Smart) to do the global roaming thing, and my local phone won't do it either. X.If you have an android phone, set up with the "fishtext" SMS service, then get the following apps from market: "WebSMS","SMSDroid" and "WebSMS fishtext connector".
Your texts cost you about 75 centavos each (1. 5 euro-cents) from anywhere in the world, and the texts can have the from address set to your roaming RP number so recipients have a normal local-carrier reply that unli-text promos will apply to.
Cunning Stunt
08-10-12, 02:48
Wow...wish that I had a few more dicks. This morning I have already had 4 highly fuckable DIA girls offer me their bodies and it isn't 10 yet. Have I suddenly metamorphosised into Brad Pitt?
she should ask him to show his drivers licence to her on cam. She asked me what for. I told her because it will have his real name, state and address on it.Really. You can live your life as you like, but to me what you talk about there is enhancing your standing by climbing over another mans back. Very political.
What I do tell some girls is "unlike others I will be back in PI soon, and if I like you I will come see you." No need to trash another.
Tally Wacker
08-10-12, 06:51
This reminds me of a filipina I chatted a few times months ago previous to my visit.
She lived in Manila and was educated and worked as some type of legal assiatant. She was tall and looked pretty. I was used to chatting more uneduated filipinas who were not as sharp as her so I was a little intimidated and careful with my words. She was standoffish and not quick to open up. I persued to get her story. After a few days she opened up and told me she just came out of a 4 year relationship. Ah shit. That was kinda deep. Then the conversation continued and I found out it was a 4 year online relationship. Online! WTF? That totaly thew me. The guy was Korean if that means anything. She came off as very inteligent and well spoken and I could not believe how she or anyone could keep a 4 year online relationship going. I felt sorry for her and tried to explain that it was not normal. She still felt as if she loved him and could work it out. I was not interested in her at this point but I spent the next few days trying to explain to her that she needed to cancel her internet and go out to meet someone in real life. Maybe me LOL. All of her friends told her the same thing she admitted but for some reason she held on to the idea of this guy and his dying love for her. I told her that I would be there in real in a few months and would love to take her to dinner. She just kept going back to talking about that guy and how he bla bla bla. I stopped chatting her and have a feeling she is still in that same position.
The guy lived in a different state and town and his real name was not the name he told her. I felt bad for her, she was in tears. She told me they were chatting for over a year and he always wanted to see her body on cam and he promised to come visit and they would get married but he wanted to wait for the right moment. But always the trip was pushed back because of some excuse. Losers who promise marriage to filipinas online are the worst scum. No need to lie.
A few weeks go by and I sent her a message and asked her if she wanted to meet me because I would be visiting her town within a few days. She was shocked and told me she wanted to meet. We met and it was her be-day a few days before so we went to a pizza hut for our lunch as my gift to her. She was a nice girl, and I could tell that she was the kind of girl who falls in love easy. I stayed a friend to her only since I had plans to meet another filipina later in the afternoon and another one later that evening.
I heard from her about a month later. She told me she had another online BF and she was in love again. Seems she didn't learn alot from her first troll BF.
Wow.wish that I had a few more dicks. This morning I have already had 4 highly fuckable DIA girls offer me their bodies and it isn't 10 yet. Have I suddenly metamorphosised into Brad Pitt?Did they hear you sent to the ATM this morning?
Cuba Tourist
08-10-12, 13:21
Everything is now different. Things have improved dramatically. Last night a call center agent came to my hotel 330 am on a first date and we were in bed by 530 Am! She was so hot I feel it is a dream. This place is unbelievable. Frenzy has been tremendous! I almost dropped to my knees when I saw his living arrangements. If I was not there, I would not believe it.
I heard from her about a month later. She told me she had another online BF and she was in love again. Seems she didn't learn alot from her first troll BF.What do you expect?
Some or all of the girls have joined DIA in the hope of finding a foreigner BF or husband. Reasons are simple. They just want an escape from their poverty, lack of opportunity, family pressure, overcrowding etc. Least of which is they are horny. This is the reason they accept foreign guys of any age, fat or skinny, bald or with hair.
In this case atleast the guy did not promise her the world, had sex with her (sometimes taking her virginity) , promised to support her etc. Sooner or later she will learn to benefit showing her assets to him on cam in exchange for money. No damage done. On the other side of the coin is if the guy really shows up there is only a 50-50 chance she will stay with him.
I had a Manila girl tell me and she proved it that she was chatting with this USA guy who sent her lots of money and chatted for more than a year. Ultimately the guy decides to make a long trip to Phi to meet her. She refused to meet him in his room and they met at mcdonalds. Se told me she did not like him and gave all sorts of reasons not to stay with him. Imagine the dissappointment he had! If he was only making his first trip thinking that he will have a good time with this girl he is supporting I feel sorry for him. The girl told me she is not going to stay with him and have sex with him if she did not like him. End of the matter.
As for love Phi girls fall in love easily or atleast profess their unending love on cam chat without ever meeting. When I remind them that we have not met yet they say they can judge a man on cam chat. Everybody should take this with a grain of salt because what they say has no value. Some of these girls smarter than anybody thinks and they certainly know the way of the world in other words street smart.
I heard from her about a month later. She told me she had another online BF and she was in love again. Seems she didn't learn alot from her first troll BF.What do you expect?
Some or all of the girls have joined DIA in the hope of finding a foreigner BF or husband. Reasons are simple. They just want an escape from their poverty, lack of opportunity, family pressure, overcrowding etc. Least of which is they are horny. This is the reason they accept foreign guys of any age, fat or skinny, bald or with hair.
In this case atleast the guy did not promise her the world, had sex with her (sometimes taking her virginity) , promised to support her etc. Sooner or later she will learn to benefit showing her assets to him on cam in exchange for money. No damage done. On the other side of the coin is if the guy really shows up there is only a 50-50 chance she will stay with him.
I had a Manila girl tell me and she proved it that she was chatting with this USA guy who sent her lots of money and chatted for more than a year. Ultimately the guy decides to make a long trip to Phi to meet her. She refused to meet him in his room and they met at mcdonalds. Se told me she did not like him and gave all sorts of reasons not to stay with him. Imagine the dissappointment he had! If he was only making his first trip thinking that he will have a good time with this girl he is supporting I feel sorry for him. The girl told me she is not going to stay with him and have sex with him if she did not like him. End of the matter.
As for love Phi girls fall in love easily or atleast profess their unending love on cam chat without ever meeting. When I remind them that we have not met yet they say they can judge a man on cam chat. Everybody should take this with a grain of salt because what they say has no value. Some of these girls smarter than anybody thinks and they certainly know the way of the world in other words street smart.
Everything is now different. Things have improved dramatically. Last night a call center agent came to my hotel 330 am on a first date and we were in bed by 530 Am! She was so hot I feel it is a dream. This place is unbelievable. Frenzy has been tremendous! I almost dropped to my knees when I saw his living arrangements. If I was not there, I would not believe it.LOL yes I recommend guys to visit my house, I am sure not many people have the same view of 4 girls who they sex all happy sitting in the one room.
Mr Enternational
08-10-12, 20:55
What do you expect?
I had a Manila girl tell me and she proved it that she was chatting with this USA guy who sent her lots of money and chatted for more than a year. Ultimately the guy decides to make a long trip to Phi to meet her. She refused to meet him in his room and they met at mcdonalds. Se told me she did not like him and gave all sorts of reasons not to stay with him. Imagine the dissappointment he had! If he was only making his first trip thinking that he will have a good time with this girl he is supporting I feel sorry for him. The girl told me she is not going to stay with him and have sex with him if she did not like him. End of the matter.I got a similar story from a taxi driver I used in March. He told me that a 70 something year old Aussie guy was in love with a 23 year old Pinay who has 5 kids. He gives her all kinds of money but she would never fuck him. He complained to the driver about it (they are all tied in some kind of way). The driver keeps trying to tell him that he doesn't need a woman with 5 kids anyway. So the driver ended up telling the girl that she needs to do something because the guy is spending all this money on her and he is getting antsy because he is not getting any sexual gratification. She said she saw him as gross and like a grandfather. The driver told her to just jack him off or something. So she called the driver later that night and told him she was in the midst of jacking the guy off and he finished in like a minute. Damn fools.
Mr Enternational
08-10-12, 21:01
LOL yes I recommend guys to visit my house, I am sure not many people have the same view of 4 girls who they sex all happy sitting in the one room.I don't know about any room. But they sure looked happy sitting in that van together. LOL.
I fully agree on the last part of your comment, but friendly disagree on the first sentence. Women, in general, can be naughty and have their own perversions, just as we have. Whether they let them through as we do (the man, the macho, needs to keep up to his profile, LOL) , or keep it more hidden, is another story. Seems she really get off in this game (as the guy says, he is skeptical himself, but still he tends to believe in what happens, so uses common sense) so why couldn't she be one of those girls going the extra mile?
I can share your comment that in private, face to face, they might become "shy", ie no pictures. But it is also because the protection fence given by the web is not there anymore. The web is a tool that induces us to loose inhibitions, when face to face we become real again.Thanks for the comments about this girl. The various opinions expressed reflect my own perplexity about her. I just can't figure out why a hot 23 year old girl wants to spend hours and hours doing sex talk and sex play on cam but never ask for money or make any effort to find out personal details about me. She knows nothing more about me than my first name and DIA handle, and doesn't seem interested to find out more. Believe me, this girl could get guys with a snap of her fingers. The whole thing just makes no sense. Sammon, you are right that good girls don't want to do sex acts on cam, but this is NOT a good girl, haha! Bionicman gives an angle I didn't consider. She may be an exhibitionist type who gets off on being watched, but won't be nearly as uninhibited and insatiable when we actually meet. She says she wants a couple of days with me when I"m in Manila. It will be interesting if she actually follows through.
met a dia girl from cebu.
only being able to spare about 2 hours a week for inane chatter to filipinas.
over the last few months been chatting to a real sweet naive 29 why o.
never did sex talk enter our chats. cause i really don't care for make believe.
reading between the lines it was obvious to me that she was very " inexperienced ".
spent my first week in ac. subic. (had a great time) and then when i was shagged out.
thought i would go to cebu for some sight seeing and to say hi to dia girl.
we met at ayala mall and she was very shy but ok.
then she says we will go to her office and meet her friends. so yes i was shown off as a trophy for an afternoon.
bit of a laugh for me at the craziness of it all. anyway tell her i want to go to the beach in bohol for a couple.
of days and does she want go with me.
very much she wants to go. then i explain that we will share a room and a bed. she says thats ok.
so we get to alona beach nice room nice place for a couple to visit, she seems at ease, happy to be there.
nice romantic dinner on the beach then back to the room.
she showered first came out wearing small pink panties under a sheer nightgown.
so i ran into the shower and was out in about 2 minutes.
she was in bed watching tv. i could sense she was nervous, so starting slow feeling her body.
she went rigid, stiff as a board. asked her but i knew the answer before i asked."have you slept with a man before?". she answered with a scared little squeek "no".
haha guessed that long ago. oh well no way do i want to be the first.
so i asked her many questions " why didn't you tell me? have you seen or felt a mans hard penis? do you want to give me a blow job? would you like me to lick your vagina and give you an orgasm.
she answered no to all saying that those things are for after marriage and seemed shocked that a man would lick her vagina.
considering i was shagged out from ac i thought i would get playful. by now she was rather shocked and speechless in fact she started to make hissing noises whenever she was touched.
snuggling in close i eased my hardon into the crack of her ass.
she jumped out of bed so fast just standing there bug eyed and hissing.
thinking i would give her a thrill. i stood on the bed naked rubbing my cock no more than a foot or so from her face.
well she stared at my cock her eyes popping out and continuously hissing. haha she couldn't talk at all.
started to wonder if i should shoot a sack of cum at her but honestly she was in shock so i put it away and told her to settle down.
eventually she calmed down. i went to sleep laughing inside about a stupid virgin woman putting herself into a position like this. she also told me that all filipinas are waiting for marriage before they have sex. apparently thats their way. hahaha.
the next morning she went into the shower so i sniffed her used panties while i jerked off into her clean ones whilst watching a hot waitress set tables for breakfast. that was the only fun with her.
This is just another tip for those guys who put a lot of time and effort into DIA contacts.
I have reduced my activity by 80% over the past month but in the last week I have met 3 women online who deliberately put a wrong place of residence.
One of them was a woman who lives in Bacolod who put that she lives in Manila because, as she said."more guys go to Manila so they will be more likely to contact me".
I told her she was a liar and she was quite shocked that I would think such a thing, but she still hasn't changed her profile.
A second one lived in Cabanatuan about 4 to 5 hours north of Manila but also put Manila as her place of residence.
A third one lives in Zamboanga City but put Cebu because "foreigners say it is too dangerous to go to Mindanao".
So, for those of you who say DIA is a waste of time, this is more grist for your mill.
For those who like DIA, just rememeber that what you read is rarely the true picture. I have already mentioned a woman who says she has a daughter but she actually has 3 kids and so it goes on.
WestCoast1
08-12-12, 18:41
This is just another tip for those guys who put a lot of time and effort into DIA contacts.
I have reduced my activity by 80% over the past month but in the last week I have met 3 women online who deliberately put a wrong place of residence.
One of them was a woman who lives in Bacolod who put that she lives in Manila because, as she said."more guys go to Manila so they will be more likely to contact me".
I told her she was a liar and she was quite shocked that I would think such a thing, but she still hasn't changed her profile.
A second one lived in Cabanatuan about 4 to 5 hours north of Manila but also put Manila as her place of residence.
A third one lives in Zamboanga City but put Cebu because "foreigners say it is too dangerous to go to Mindanao".
So, for those of you who say DIA is a waste of time, this is more grist for your mill.
For those who like DIA, just rememeber that what you read is rarely the true picture. I have already mentioned a woman who says she has a daughter but she actually has 3 kids and so it goes on.Yes, I was recently in a northern mindanao provincial town. Many of the dating site girls from that city were not from there at all. Each had agreed to meet at a certain mall coffee shop for a drink, then back to the hotel for sex. Suddenly, an hour before the meeting, a txt: "can you send me money western for my transport? I need 500 from bukidnon for bus and foods." WTF? You don't live anywhere near this city? Its a several-hour bus ride, even if I sent the money right now (I don't do that) , you will not be able to make it into town or to the coffee shop by the agreed-upon time. We continually ask ourselves: WTF was she thinking? Lesson learned: always ask them what city they are in RIGHT NOW? (as they do: "where you now?")
Mr Enternational
08-12-12, 23:54
Yes, I was recently in a northern mindanao provincial town. Many of the dating site girls from that city were not from there at all. Each had agreed to meet at a certain mall coffee shop for a drink, then back to the hotel for sex. Suddenly, an hour before the meeting, a txt: "can you send me money western for my transport? I need 500 from bukidnon for bus and foods." WTF? You don't live anywhere near this city? Its a several-hour bus ride, even if I sent the money right now (I don't do that) , you will not be able to make it into town or to the coffee shop by the agreed-upon time. We continually ask ourselves: WTF was she thinking? Lesson learned: always ask them what city they are in RIGHT NOW? (as they do: "where you now?")Yeah yeah. I think we all have these same stories. I was in Cebu trying to get with a girl and noticed it strange when she didn't even know where a major street was located. When I asked to meet the same day she said it would have to be the next day because she didn't live anywhere close. And I don't think asking them what city right now would help either. They will just say the same lie. It would work better to act like you are already in the city and ask them what time / how long it would take them to get to the meeting spot.
Yeah yeah. I think we all have these same stories. I was in Cebu trying to get with a girl and noticed it strange when she didn't even know where a major street was located. When I asked to meet the same day she said it would have to be the next day because she didn't live anywhere close. And I don't think asking them what city right now would help either. They will just say the same lie. It would work better to act like you are already in the city and ask them what time / how long it would take them to get to the meeting spot.Is it a question of them being liars or of them being so pitifully stupid? Most have never been out of their hometown or the next town over and are socially and geographically challenged. Not that one of them has ever lied to me. They would never do that, especially to me.
Is it a question of them being liars or of them being so pitifully stupid? Most have never been out of their hometown or the next town over and are socially and geographically challenged. Not that one of them has ever lied to me. They would never do that, especially to me.Not always Slippery.
I agree they are very geographically challenged (geography is not taught in schools in the Phils) , and have a problem with space-time relationships but the Bacolod girl that I mentioned in my post who put that she lives in Manila is a trained nurse who has passed the entrance exam.
Her profile is a carefully contrived lie to attract foreigners who only ever get as far as Manila. She obviously feels that once the spider (her) has the contact with the fly (us) then we will be powerless to resist her charms and we will either jump on the next plane to Bacolod or pay for her to visit Manila.
Not stupid; just a conniving woman.
The craziest part was how she was so offended when I called her a liar for putting Manila as her place of residence when she actually lived in Bacolod. She didn't think it was a lie at all.
Sorry, I'm not comfortable the way you guys are describing Filipinas. They are NOT all liars and scammers and whatever.
I got this message today. I wanted to disagree with her, but if you think about it, she's absolutely right. I don't know what "stack it" means, but I'd like to meet this one.
I get shy once in a while, go red when I stack it and am quite conscious about the way I look. But after all, I am human and thats the way we were constructed to behave.
I will agree that you are the fly RK. LOL. But I think the gal is right. She wants to meet people and the big MANILA is the best way to do that. I'm guessing she is quite willing to go to flood country in order to meet someone. She's absolutely right that the Bacolod address doesn't come up on the radar for anyone who has never thought about Philippines. I search for Minglanilla. Ever been there?
RK wants things convenient for HIM so he wants the gal to tell him where he is so that he can. Ummmm, exclude someone who doesn't come into a convenient geographical range.
You called her a liar? Ok, you have truth on your side Rk. I think you should reconsider. X.
Not always Slippery.
I agree they are very geographically challenged (geography is not taught in schools in the Phils) , and have a problem with space-time relationships but the Bacolod girl that I mentioned in my post who put that she lives in Manila is a trained nurse who has passed the entrance exam.
Her profile is a carefully contrived lie to attract foreigners who only ever get as far as Manila. She obviously feels that once the spider (her) has the contact with the fly (us) then we will be powerless to resist her charms and we will either jump on the next plane to Bacolod or pay for her to visit Manila.
Not stupid; just a conniving woman.
The craziest part was how she was so offended when I called her a liar for putting Manila as her place of residence when she actually lived in Bacolod. She didn't think it was a lie at all.
I search for Minglanilla. Ever been there?
RK wants things convenient for HIM so he wants the gal to tell him where he is so that he can. Ummmm, exclude someone who doesn't come into a convenient geographical range.
You called her a liar? Ok, you have truth on your side Rk. I think you should reconsider. X.
Re # 6045 (X Man)
At no stage did I EVER say that all filipinas are liars and scammers. All my staff are filipinos and filipinas, and they are exemplary people. I would not trade them for anyone.
You should make direct reference to those who are saying that, because I certainly do not hold that view. I mentioned 3 examples where girls told lies about where they live, and I inferred from that you were referring to me.
Yes been to Minglanilla. Just a short ride out of Cebu.
I called her a liar in a gentle way XMan - I am not so crass as to use language like that. I told her she was being untruthful, and she said "What! You think I am liar?" Her words.
Anyway - so what if I want to know where she ACTUALLY lives? I have no interest in chatting with women on the internet who I cannot meet in person. I work full time too so time is a resource for me.
I recall X Man saying he spends a lot of time on DIA which is normal for those one-handed typists who are not living here full-time like me.
I rarely use DIA as a resource any more and I was trying to be HELPFUL to the newbies who may still think that what they read on DIA or any web dating site is the truth, despite what you might think my motives are.
Good luck to her if she finds suckers. I was trying to help guys avoid being mislead.
I agree that most pinay are ignorant of the geography of their own country.
My response is twofold.
First, I carry with me a map of the Philippines, and a map of the world. They usually have real problems showing where major cities are located.
Secon, when I am setting up a meeting, I ask how long it takes for her to get from her house to where we are meeting. Usually she will have travelled into the provincial capital a few times. So then I count back for them. Meet at 1 pm. 2 hour bus ride. Means you must be on a bus by 11 am. Which means that you must take your bath at about 9. 30, because it will take about 90 mins for bathing and preparation.
Then I start at the first time, and make sure that she is on schedule. I know that it is a bit of a hassle, but it helps to reduce the frequency of no shows, or very late shows.
G
Is it a question of them being liars or of them being so pitifully stupid? Most have never been out of their hometown or the next town over and are socially and geographically challenged. Not that one of them has ever lied to me. They would never do that, especially to me.
Responding to Gangles recent post, I also carry two laminated maps, one Philippines, other the world. On the world map it's the rare girl who can even find the Philippines! Similarly, few can find their island on the Philippine map. So, for most, maps are unreadable. Probably the same for city maps. "Where do you live?" Add to that the general fuzziness regarding time and it's a wonder they can show up at all!
I agree that most pinay are ignorant of the geography of their own country.
My response is twofold.
First, I carry with me a map of the Philippines, and a map of the world. They usually have real problems showing where major cities are located.
Secon, when I am setting up a meeting, I ask how long it takes for her to get from her house to where we are meeting. Usually she will have travelled into the provincial capital a few times. So then I count back for them. Meet at 1 pm. 2 hour bus ride. Means you must be on a bus by 11 am. Which means that you must take your bath at about 9. 30, because it will take about 90 mins for bathing and preparation.
Then I start at the first time, and make sure that she is on schedule. I know that it is a bit of a hassle, but it helps to reduce the frequency of no shows, or very late shows.
GMany of these girls have not gone anywhere. They seldom know nearest airport or distance to the nearest city. There is no need for them to learn geography.
Even when I fly them into Manila or cebu they do not seem wide eyed and seldom want to go see the sights.
Reasons are simple. They get everything at where they live and even if they have money there is no need to go anywhere. Unless they live in a city many have not gone to a bar or disco.
Their life is simple. If they have work just go to work and back home. If they have a bf, they will get married and become a factory to pop out few children and continue their meagre existance.
Only very few girls have aspirations to travel abroad or be adventurous to work in big cities. Usually it is because they have a relative in a big city. But these aunts take advantage of them asking them to household chores.
Wicked Roger
08-13-12, 23:45
Usually it is because they have a relative in a big city. But these aunts take advantage of them asking them to household chores.Sammon.
I agree ith this statement. Usually mean a an underpaid (or free) DH (domestic helper) with the relative acting as if she is rich and not treating the niece well. I know 2 girls in this position at present and both hate their work and the relatives. They did not relaise the work would be so menial (to a degree) but what 'hurts' the most is the way they are treated as a lower caste of person.
Gangles.
Re the timing I do the same, is a good thing to remember as then it does reduce the frequency of being very late. Same for when/if the girl has to catch a plane..work backwrads from the time she is supposed to be at the airport (and cross your fingers she listens and does what you advise LOL)
RK and XMan.
I know you both well, and can't figure out why you are having a 'handbags' spat. RK has lived her many years and X has visited many times. And I know that most pinays are not liars they just don't quite grasp the basics at times which for westerner guys can be an issue and frustrating (is why I say to many that you need patience in PI). Only the scammers are liars IMHO. Minglanilla is close to Cebu City say 45 mins ride or less on a taxi but depends on the traffic and if the driver takes the SRP or the long route, taxi fare is arond 150PHP on a reasonable day. Who cares guys. Chill, you are both good guys and contribute lots and I hope will continue:)
WestCoast1
08-14-12, 05:24
I agree that most pinay are ignorant of the geography of their own country.G: Got your recent PM. But I can't reply, it still says your mailbox quota is full.
Dubai Curious
08-14-12, 05:37
met a dia girl from cebu.
only being able to spare about 2 hours a week for inane chatter to filipinas.
over the last few months been chatting to a real sweet naive 29 why o.
never did sex talk enter our chats. cause i really don't care for make believe.
reading between the lines it was obvious to me that she was very " inexperienced ".
spent my first week in ac. subic. (had a great time) and then when i was shagged out.
thought i would go to cebu for some sight seeing and to say hi to dia girl.
we met at ayala mall and she was very shy but ok.
then she says we will go to her office and meet her friends. so yes i was shown off as a trophy for an afternoon.
bit of a laugh for me at the craziness of it all. anyway tell her i want to go to the beach in bohol for a couple.
of days and does she want go with me.
very much she wants to go. then i explain that we will share a room and a bed. she says thats ok.
so we get to alona beach nice room nice place for a couple to visit, she seems at ease, happy to be there.
nice romantic dinner on the beach then back to the room.
she showered first came out wearing small pink panties under a sheer nightgown.
so i ran into the shower and was out in about 2 minutes.
she was in bed watching tv. i could sense she was nervous, so starting slow feeling her body.
she went rigid, stiff as a board. asked her but i knew the answer before i asked."have you slept with a man before?". she answered with a scared little squeek "no".
haha guessed that long ago. oh well no way do i want to be the first.
so i asked her many questions " why didn't you tell me? have you seen or felt a mans hard penis? do you want to give me a blow job? would you like me to lick your vagina and give you an orgasm.
she answered no to all saying that those things are for after marriage and seemed shocked that a man would lick her vagina.
considering i was shagged out from ac i thought i would get playful. by now she was rather shocked and speechless in fact she started to make hissing noises whenever she was touched.
snuggling in close i eased my hardon into the crack of her ass.
she jumped out of bed so fast just standing there bug eyed and hissing.
thinking i would give her a thrill. i stood on the bed naked rubbing my cock no more than a foot or so from her face.
well she stared at my cock her eyes popping out and continuously hissing. haha she couldn't talk at all.
started to wonder if i should shoot a sack of cum at her but honestly she was in shock so i put it away and told her to settle down.
eventually she calmed down. i went to sleep laughing inside about a stupid virgin woman putting herself into a position like this. she also told me that all filipinas are waiting for marriage before they have sex. apparently thats their way. hahaha.
the next morning she went into the shower so i sniffed her used panties while i jerked off into her clean ones whilst watching a hot waitress set tables for breakfast. that was the only fun with her.yes can not stop laughing as i read your story. dude what a night you had. its most surprising that she still slept in the same bed as yours. i am sure you have better luck next time with her as by the time you meet her again, she will have her finds of the fact hat its ok to have her licked by a man. as its not sex! best of luck.
I agree that most pinay are ignorant of the geography of their own country.
Secon, when I am setting up a meeting, I ask how long it takes for her to get from her house to where we are meeting. Usually she will have travelled into the provincial capital a few times. So then I count back for them. Meet at 1 pm. 2 hour bus ride. Means you must be on a bus by 11 am. Which means that you must take your bath at about 9. 30, because it will take about 90 mins for bathing and preparation.
Then I start at the first time, and make sure that she is on schedule. I know that it is a bit of a hassle, but it helps to reduce the frequency of no shows, or very late shows.
GVery good, G. I think I will use this approach, too.
Thanks
RK, I wrote "not all Filipinas are liars" and you seem to agree with me. My post wasn't meant as an attack on you. It was more of a,"hey folks, lighten up, stop the whinging".
As for Ms. Bacolod's location and your time, point taken. I understand why YOU want to know where she lives, but, in my opinion, you haven't fully considered her perspective. That was the message I was trying to convey, and sorry if I was less than eloquent in doing so.
Since you live in Asia, you probably already know that Asians often speak indrectly as a way of saving face and / or avoiding confrontation. So to call someone untruthful, is about the same as calling someone a liar.
Based on RK's examples and my own experiences, I will end this with Newbie101 advice: When meeting women online it's always a good idea to try to confirm all the details well in advance of any face-to-face meeting. Even then things can and will go wrong. And try to keep both hands on the keyboard. X.
Re # 6045 (X Man)
At no stage did I EVER say that all filipinas are liars and scammers. All my staff are filipinos and filipinas, and they are exemplary people. I would not trade them for anyone.
You should make direct reference to those who are saying that, because I certainly do not hold that view. I mentioned 3 examples where girls told lies about where they live, and I inferred from that you were referring to me.
Yes been to Minglanilla. Just a short ride out of Cebu.
I called her a liar in a gentle way XMan. I am not so crass as to use language like that. I told her she was being untruthful, and she said "What! You think I am liar?" Her words.
Anyway. So what if I want to know where she ACTUALLY lives? I have no interest in chatting with women on the internet who I cannot meet in person. I work full time too so time is a resource for me.
I recall X Man saying he spends a lot of time on DIA which is normal for those one-handed typists who are not living here full-time like me.
I rarely use DIA as a resource any more and I was trying to be HELPFUL to the newbies who may still think that what they read on DIA or any web dating site is the truth, despite what you might think my motives are.
Good luck to her if she finds suckers. I was trying to help guys avoid being mislead.
Escort Fan
08-15-12, 21:46
As I posted there : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2487-Photo-Gallery-Chit-Chat&p=1314499#post1314499
My frist steps on DIA are not very productive.
How does one spot WG's on DIA? I've chatted with a few girls and they are sticking to the usual stuff.
I felt like saying, let's meet, have dinner and then fuck but I'm unsure if that's the right move.
All the cuties from MNL or CEB must be flooded with messages, I was wondering going on a field trip to let's say DVO or another province, the "competition" must be less important.
Did anyone had a productive fieldtrip to the province?
Before meeting the girl in person do you convince her that we're going to spend quality time in the room after dinner, or do you raise the question face to face during dinner?
Also how to bring the idea that you'll provide a "compensation" for the time spent.
FreebieFan
08-16-12, 02:00
RK, I wrote "not all Filipinas are liars" .But occasionally some do push the bounadries of truth. For instance on Monday in Taipei, a Filipina I know writes " I'd like to see you you but I will spend my day off with my friends ". On the actual day off (a few days later) she writes " I miss you so much, I hope we meet. I really need your help right now ($$).
I think thats called being pragmatic.
Marconista
08-16-12, 08:31
X.
The "new" and popular app to use on smartphones nowadays is the VIBER. It works on Iphone, Android, Windows 7 and BlackBerry. Check out viber. Com. It can be downloaded from the marketplaces of the phones.
All you need is access to 3G or wifi to make calls or text messages for free (although it cost airtime of 3G. Several of my businessfriends in RP use viber, but not sure if the pinay ladies are familiar with the app.
I am not sure if your old Smart mobile can handle it. Not likely, so you should upgrade yourself in to the new era of real smartphones (insert smilie)
Adding... It will use the phone-number of your phone as registration, hence not smart to use your main phone/sim for mongering. If you install Viber on your phone, others using viber having your # will be informed that you have installed it, so that they can communicate with you.
Those of you who live outside Philippines, is there a cheap and efficient way to send messages to her phone thru the Internet? I've heard of Chika, but don't know much about it. I haven't set up my (older) Philippine phone (Smart) to do the global roaming thing, and my local phone won't do it either. X.
FreebieFan
08-16-12, 10:36
Before meeting the girl in person do you convince her that we're going to spend quality time in the room after dinner, or do you raise the question face to face during dinner?
Also how to bring the idea that you'll provide a "compensation" for the time spent.Ok we all need to provide help to the newbs now and again.
Firstly be upfront and honest. Tell a girl that if you go for dinner, after dinner you will both be going to your room " for a nightcap" or whatever.
Mention that you are gentleman and you understand that a girl will have costs in getting to you, and you would be hapy to compensate her for her costs, plus a little extra as you anticipate her to be "sweet".
They can all read between the lines, and all have heard all the lines before.
Some will bite, some won't. Some will play for you for a beginner others won't.
Let them know you know Manila like the back of Red Kilts hand, that you have been there as many times as WR. It will separate the wheat form whatever wheat gets separated from.
Ultimately though, you got to have your own game and can't follow my or other other posters script. Some girls like to be convinced to go upstairs with you, others want a man to tell them what to do. You got to develop your own game and play your own instincts with all this.
As I posted there :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2487-Photo-Gallery-Chit-Chat&p=1314499#post1314499
My frist steps on DIA are not very productive.
How does one spot WG's on DIA? I've chatted with a few girls and they are sticking to the usual stuff.
I felt like saying, let's meet, have dinner and then fuck but I'm unsure if that's the right move.
All the cuties from MNL or CEB must be flooded with messages, I was wondering going on a field trip to let's say DVO or another province, the "competition" must be less important.
Did anyone had a productive fieldtrip to the province?
Before meeting the girl in person do you convince her that we're going to spend quality time in the room after dinner, or do you raise the question face to face during dinner?
Also how to bring the idea that you'll provide a "compensation" for the time spent.Basic rules on DIA is send messages to all girls you are interested in. Some will reply but not all.
Try to get yahoo I. D and chat. Make sure your intentions are known if looking for relationship or just sex.
Once again some will say yes, others will say no or maybe. Maybe means yes. Usually they will say they need help in other words money. You say you will help after you meet and if everything is good.
As for difference in attitude between city girls and province girls depends on individuals. Ofcourse most of city girls get lots of messages because most mongers will not fly in girls from provinces or send money for expenses or will not go to provinces. If you are looking for sex only avoid going to their provinces and meeting her folks.
As for me I did many times and except for one all have showed up.
Servicewise both are same. Truthfully if they like you will give you good service.
There is no point in wining and dining if you are looking for sex. Get to the point directly so that there is no surprises.
The terminology for the girls is "you are looking for fun". It is not recommended that you come out and say "do you want to fuck, duh". This seems to be the approach of many western newbies who get their sex-education from hours of porn.
These girls are all Catholic and prefer to talk "around" the subject. Even the better girls are looking for a little money for family,
Transportation and cellphone load. Wine and dine can be Jollibee or McDonalds.
Enjoy the journey and don't be an asshole to these girls. Even if some are liars or scammers (if you were in their circumstance you would be too).
Enjoy.
Basic rules on DIA is send messages to all girls you are interested in. Some will reply but not all.
Try to get yahoo I. D and chat. Make sure your intentions are known if looking for relationship or just sex.
Once again some will say yes, others will say no or maybe. Maybe means yes. Usually they will say they need help in other words money. You say you will help after you meet and if everything is good.
As for difference in attitude between city girls and province girls depends on individuals. Ofcourse most of city girls get lots of messages because most mongers will not fly in girls from provinces or send money for expenses or will not go to provinces. If you are looking for sex only avoid going to their provinces and meeting her folks.
As for me I did many times and except for one all have showed up.
Servicewise both are same. Truthfully if they like you will give you good service.
There is no point in wining and dining if you are looking for sex. Get to the point directly so that there is no surprises.
I'm considering getting a mail order bride.
I had been looking at AFA / loveme which seemed quite promising, but I've heard so many accusations of it being scam ridden that I'm now thinking it's better to look elsewhere.
Is Cherry Blossoms actually any good?
The thing that struck me about CB and most other mail order bride orientated site is that they just come off as shoddily produced dating sites.
I guess my question is:
Regular premium dating sites (like filipinocupid or filipinofriendfinder)
Vs
Mail order specific sites (like loveme or Cherry Blossoms)
Vs.
Free sites (DIA, Zoosk etc)
Is it just a case of apples vs oranges? Or is one of them actually better for a serious wife hunt?
I'd assume the free sites are the least suitable because they are just flooded with too many people with too many different motives.
I found there is also a real shortage of decent forums about the whole mail order bride thing, thats why I'm asking here, because why'all out there actually seem to have some decent and well informed opinions (and of course some drivel)
Escort Fan
08-17-12, 10:46
About mail order bride you should watch this movie : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0188453/
I don't think the "mail order" thing apply to the Philippines.
I mean you should go on location make your casting, check many girls (see with which you are compatible and vice versa) , and then from the selected few check their families, background.
I'm considering getting a mail order bride.
I had been looking at AFA / loveme which seemed quite promising, but I've heard so many accusations of it being scam ridden that I'm now thinking it's better to look elsewhere.
Is Cherry Blossoms actually any good?
The thing that struck me about CB and most other mail order bride orientated site is that they just come off as shoddily produced dating sites.
I guess my question is:
Regular premium dating sites (like filipinocupid or filipinofriendfinder)
Vs
Mail order specific sites (like loveme or Cherry Blossoms)
Vs.
Free sites (DIA, Zoosk etc)
Is it just a case of apples vs oranges? Or is one of them actually better for a serious wife hunt?
I'd assume the free sites are the least suitable because they are just flooded with too many people with too many different motives.
I found there is also a real shortage of decent forums about the whole mail order bride thing, thats why I'm asking here, because why'all out there actually seem to have some decent and well informed opinions (and of course some drivel)
The terminology for the girls is "you are looking for fun". It is not recommended that you come out and say "do you want to fuck, duh". This seems to be the approach of many western newbies who get their sex-education from hours of porn.
These girls are all Catholic and prefer to talk "around" the subject. Even the better girls are looking for a little money for family,
Transportation and cellphone load. Wine and dine can be Jollibee or McDonalds.
Enjoy the journey and don't be an asshole to these girls. Even if some are liars or scammers (if you were in their circumstance you would be too).
Enjoy.Real terminology which works is " Do you want to stay with me when I come there ". Immediately they know what is expected from them.
Believe it or not Catholic strict policy is followed by only very few relating to pre marital sex.
Almost all the girls had atleast one bf and had sex in their teen years.
However even if she stays with you no force should be used to get sex. Best you can do is being civil and ask her to leave in a nice way.
Escort Fan
08-17-12, 17:28
however even if she stays with you no force should be used to get sex.the fact you feel necessary to state that scares me.
but i'll keep that in mind it's not appropriate to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) girls!
MadisonGuy
08-17-12, 18:58
I'm considering getting a mail order bride.
I had been looking at AFA / loveme which seemed quite promising, but I've heard so many accusations of it being scam ridden that I'm now thinking it's better to look elsewhere.
Is Cherry Blossoms actually any good?
The thing that struck me about CB and most other mail order bride orientated site is that they just come off as shoddily produced dating sites.
I guess my question is:
Regular premium dating sites (like filipinocupid or filipinofriendfinder)
Vs
Mail order specific sites (like loveme or Cherry Blossoms)
Vs.
Free sites (DIA, Zoosk etc)
Is it just a case of apples vs oranges? Or is one of them actually better for a serious wife hunt?
I'd assume the free sites are the least suitable because they are just flooded with too many people with too many different motives.
I found there is also a real shortage of decent forums about the whole mail order bride thing, thats why I'm asking here, because why'all out there actually seem to have some decent and well informed opinions (and of course some drivel) Mail order brides create more red flags when getting a visa. I suggest just finding one the normal way. They use english so you can use their local websites and stuff like craigslist. One of the questions on the k1 visa asks if you met her through a mail order bride agency. It's best to not have to answer yes to that. It's just like anywhere else there is good and bad girls everywhere. You're not going to meet the perfect girl because she's filipina, but you might get lucky. I date a bunch of thai and filipina's here in the US that work at strip clubs and somehow think that's different than being a bar girl in their country. To me if you can't tell your family either way it's the same. They have grown up in a different society so you wil have to take the good with the bad.
It seems to me that before you start searching for sites, you need to think through what you really want to do.
Are you really looking for a woman to marry?
Are you going to be happy with any woman, or do you have specific preferences? If you do, think them through, make a list. Do you want educated or not, good cook or don't care, religion, personality, height, weight. Ethnicity?
Where do you plan to live?
What sort of person are you? Are you the upfront type of guy that can effortlessly meet up with any woman that you have organised, or are you somewhat shy and withdrawn?
How much of the search do you want the agency / dating site to do?
If you want the organisation to do most of the organising, then use a business like LoveMe. They are not cheap, but I understand that they do most of the ground work for you.
I know a woman in Cebu who was one of their girls. I spent some time with her, stepping through the process. Firstly, she could not register on the site herself, she applied at one of their offices, went through an interview and screening process to cut out the scammers. Photo shoot. Some advice about what to expect. LoveMe organises groups of guys to come together from anywhere in the world at one place at a set time. In this case Cebu. They organise travel, airport transfers, accommodation. In this case, the Waterfront. A couple of evenings are organised to bring the guys and girls together, about 100 girls, and about 10 guys. An array of ice breaking activities to get people mixing and talking. Dinner, with one or two guys per table, with about 10 girls per table. Daytime activities, tours etc.
If you find one or two women that you are particularly interested in, then they will act as intermediaries, organise visas etc.
The other sites that you mention provide a forum for you to get in contact with women, but you have to do most of the work.
Good luck, I hope that you find what you are looking for.
G.
I'm considering getting a mail order bride.
I had been looking at AFA / loveme which seemed quite promising, but I've heard so many accusations of it being scam ridden that I'm now thinking it's better to look elsewhere.
Is Cherry Blossoms actually any good?
The thing that struck me about CB and most other mail order bride orientated site is that they just come off as shoddily produced dating sites.
I guess my question is:
Regular premium dating sites (like filipinocupid or filipinofriendfinder)
Vs
Mail order specific sites (like loveme or Cherry Blossoms)
Vs.
Free sites (DIA, Zoosk etc)
Is it just a case of apples vs oranges? Or is one of them actually better for a serious wife hunt?
I'd assume the free sites are the least suitable because they are just flooded with too many people with too many different motives.
I found there is also a real shortage of decent forums about the whole mail order bride thing, thats why I'm asking here, because why'all out there actually seem to have some decent and well informed opinions (and of course some drivel)
I'm considering getting a mail order bride.
IThe best advice I can give you is to understand that finding a woman for love and ordering a pizza are two quite different things.
Mail order brides create more red flags when getting a visa. I suggest just finding one the normal way. They use english so you can use their local websites and stuff like craigslist. One of the questions on the k1 visa asks if you met her through a mail order bride agency. It's best to not have to answer yes to that. It's just like anywhere else there is good and bad girls everywhere. You're not going to meet the perfect girl because she's filipina, but you might get lucky. I date a bunch of thai and filipina's here in the US that work at strip clubs and somehow think that's different than being a bar girl in their country. To me if you can't tell your family either way it's the same. They have grown up in a different society so you wil have to take the good with the bad.This guy really doesn't know what he's talking about and had trolled around the Philippines board about a year ago or so. If you want accurate answers to your questions, PM me. Its quite simple if you do some reading.
Thanks for the responses guys.
Let me clarify my position.
This isn't something I came up with over a beer the other night and thus posted.
I tired to answer my own questions over the last week or so before posting.
And I've had the idea in the back of my mind for years.
Ever since I was a teenager and 1st heard of the idea of MOBs I found it interesting.
I'm 35. Fair looking and well employed. I am a white guy living in Japan. I am likely to live in Japan for the next 5 10 years and after that could be anywhere.
It shouldn't be hard for me to find a decent wife anywhere, let alone here in Japan, but somehow it is.
I've been through the dating grind several times over the last 10 years and I've had my fill. Hundreds of dates, thousands of e-mails.
I can and will do the grind again, but only if there is a realistic possibility of actually finding some serious marriage prospects out of it.
I no longer consider it fun to meet several new chicks every month, even I fuck them all (and about 70% of the time I do).
Without exception I have found that I only seem able to get dates with 2 types of women: ones that I wouldn't want to marry, and ones that are happy to date me but wouldn't marry me. I am not without flaws, but nor do I expect perfection. I have observed my own life / dating patterns and they aren't working and need to be broken and I thought pushing my romance options firmly in a mail order bride direction is a path worth venturing down.
I've done plenty of dating, both through offline means and Internet dating.
Modern 1st world women simply don't have enough reality bearing down on them and exerting pressure on them to get married. Their heads are so full of shit from Sex and The City, women's magazines etc, that there is no space left in there for them to appropriately contemplate marriage. They have forgotten, or maybe never understood, that having husband isa good thing, and Mr. Right / a "soul mate" are not realistic ambitions, you just need to find somebody decent and make it work.
I'll say it again: dates and fucks I can go out and get, it's merely a case of bothering.
But all my efforts to find a suitable wife have failed.
So yes I really do want a wife, I have no underlying objection to getting a MOB, my friends and family either support the idea or if they don't like it they haven't said anything.
On the one hand I like very petite girls, on the other hand I like tall slim model types.
I probably want an Asian wife.
I've always preferred Asians.
Some of those Ukraine girls do look very tempting though.
Basically I see my search either being for a petite Asian or a willowy Eastern European.
Or maybe search for both and see what comes out in the mix.
I am bad at cooking and easily pleased with food.
If I have kids I will expect my wife to feed them in a reasonable and healthy manner, but I don't need a 5 star chef.
I do go on a bit, so for the sake of my wife's sanity it'd be better that she is fairly intelligent and pretty good at English.
Gangles account of loveme / AFA seems on the level. The impression I got of them is that they are 1st and foremost a business and are setup for profit while allowing a sensible user the chance to really make good use of their systems / products. But careless customers are their real cash cow.
I suspected that a lot of the harsh criticism I have read (all over the place) is basically written by guys who simply aren't competent enough to find a wife through their system and basically stumble into traps, and fail to say or so anything that would actually win the real girls over. Plus their system is built to punish people who co-operate with it. If I join I will be sending each of the 100 mails you can send to a different girl, and if they don't read it properly and respond to the e-mail address I include in that mail then they are out of the runnings. I viewed their organisation as a filter. Basically fast track me into being in a room with a bunch of girls who really do want to marry a foreign guy ASAP. My basic plan was to pick a destination, join and use the 100 free mails to prime a selection of girls from that location, then go to that destination perhaps in the coming winter break and proceed from there.
But what video I have seen did support the accusations that the very cute girls you see on the site are models / stooges and what turns up at the socials is a distinctly lower calibre.
Anyways, enough of this for now.
Cheers guys.
Look forward to whatever other conversations this generates.
Cunning Stunt
08-18-12, 09:54
The member looking for a mail order bride, need look no further. Any girl who could come up with a hilarious profile header such as this, deserves a one way ticket out.
Love is like a fart, If you have to force it, it's probably shit.Is it a quaint old Filipino proverb? Actually she said she found it on Google.
P. S. She seems quite a feisty and fun little thing too and none too hard on the eyes. Get in there quickly. I have a cunning plan!
Real terminology which works is " Do you want to stay with me when I come there ". Immediately they know what is expected from them.It may work or it may not work. I think you have to be more emphatic than that as I have learnt to my cost. In the past I have met a girl who was very "happy to stay with me" but baulked completely at sex.
MadisonGuy
08-18-12, 14:25
This guy really doesn't know what he's talking about and had trolled around the Philippines board about a year ago or so. If you want accurate answers to your questions, PM me. Its quite simple if you do some reading.Oh for your secret wisdom? Ha ha. If you google I129f and look at it you will see it is one of the questions. I just don't think it's the way to go if you want a wife. Odds are you won't be the only guy she's looking to wife up with. I'm not saying you won't get a visa going that route, but I think Philippines is probably the easiest place in the world to meet a girl, hiring someone is kind of dumb.
I'm considering getting a mail order bride.Haha don't be discouraged by the old-timers here (but don't do it anyway!) There are lots of men who find and marry girls from the PI and live happily in the US.
I suspect a couple of keys are: find an educated girl over 30yo, and not too freakin pretty, and expect her to send support home.
Be aware of the IMBRA law. If you don't know about IMBRA look it up. It still applies to US citizens. If I were you: use those online sites to find girls to chat with. However, when and if you get ready to sponsor a girl for a K1 visa. The form will ask "How (or where?) did you meet your fiance. The correct answer is "We met at her Hometown in "boola boola". NEVER say 'we met online'. And this is true. Do you really 'meet' anyone online? Can you shake their hand online? No. Let the ambiguities of the law work for you. Informing them that you "met" through an online dating site opens up a huge personal privacy can of worms. Later in the interview at the embassy they may ask more detailed questions, but the people in the forums below can help you more with that. In my experience if you've been corresponding more then 6 months and she has a clean record, they will grant the K1. But they don't have to. Sometimes in refusing the visa, they are doing the guy a favor! Don't even think of getting married in the PI. There is no guarantee the US will grant a visa to her, even if you are married.
Fortunately all the online dating sites seem to be ignoring provisions of that IMBRA law, sticking it to the fat pigs in the US who supported this.
Better forums for discussing fiance visas are: LivingInCebu. Dotcom (many married people there. Don't even mention mongering.) and VisaJourney dot com for technical questions. I had three relatives do it, and worked well.
Oh for your secret wisdom? Ha ha. If you google I129f and look at it you will see it is one of the questions. I just don't think it's the way to go if you want a wife. Odds are you won't be the only guy she's looking to wife up with. I'm not saying you won't get a visa going that route, but I think Philippines is probably the easiest place in the world to meet a girl, hiring someone is kind of dumb.I have made a rather nice living over the years off of dumb people.
WestCoast1
08-18-12, 23:25
It may work or it may not work. I think you have to be more emphatic than that as I have learnt to my cost. In the past I have met a girl who was very "happy to stay with me" but baulked completely at sex.Concur. Last year a cebuana agreed to stay with me. After talking online about meeting, I asked, do you want to stay with me? She said yes. We had discussed nawty likes / dislikes previously. Once I was there, in txt, she requested in advance p2000 / day. Fine, I assumed she meant overnight. She came over the first evening about 5pm. We did some shopping, she found me a barber for a quick haircut, took me to a videoke place, we had dinner, then out for drinks across from Juliana's. Back in the room by about 10pm and I'm feeling randy. I shower and come out and drop the towel and the look on her face was not good. Instant realization of a miscommunication. She said she would sleep with me, but in her clothes, and she would not have sex. Interesting conundrum. I dressed, apologized for the mixup, handed her 1000 for her time, and put her on a jeepney. She txt the next day, also to apologize. I think I was looking for sex and a temp gf, she was looking to 'tour' me around the place. Stupid me, not following my own advice about being specific up front about expectations. Interesting how the discussion of nawty likes / dislikes does not necessarily lead to nawty.
I wrote a long old reply to the posts so far but for some reason it hasn't made it onto the board.
Not going to repeat myself at this stage other than to say thanks for the responses they are good food for thought, especially Gangles.
Cheers.
I am considering taking early retirement from my current position in Canada. A fellow Canadian living here who I respect, trust, and deal with on a daily basis has suggested that I work for a business he deals with in the Philippines to work there. For the moment just accept that he is very well connected in the Philippines as well.
This is very preliminary. In fact it is before preliminary. I am just sniffing. Cautiously, but I have been assured visas and all the necessary documents can be looked after and the wage suggested makes it difficult not to consider if it proceeds.
I recognize there are all sorts of issues around govt visas and work permits etc so at this point I am trying to make a plan on the assumption those will be looked after in due course. I would not leave Canada unless I have everything in hand. I am a very skeptical person so if this does start to progress I will be making more serious enquiries about the backers some of whom are political. In my former business lives I was paid to learn truths. So at this time I am taking an outsiders point of view.
As a starting point, assuming this proceeds and I do move there, how do I get the pesos I earn in the Philippines back to Canada to invest here. I realize I need an accountant to look after taxes etc, but the dollars suggested will allow me to live very well there while establishing my permanent retirement plan here if I am allowed to move money.
Thanks for your thoughts. I know there are some very successful businessmen here.
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As a starting point, assuming this proceeds and I do move there, how do I get the pesos I earn in the Philippines back to Canada to invest here. I realize I need an accountant to look after taxes etc, but the dollars suggested will allow me to live very well there while establishing my permanent retirement plan here if I am allowed to move money.This should probably be in the Living in the Phils thread but anyway.
Are you going to be paid in pesos or dollars? I can't imagine ever changing pesos into dollars to be shipped offshore? Your post is a bit confused about this.
If you are being paid in pesos then you will be expected to pay taxes so you will need a good accountant and tax adviser as well as a lot of support to get your local work permit visa, but it can be done, with patience.
Be wary of people (even friends) who say they are well-connected and can arrange everything for you easily. The Philippines is changing in various ways and some of these ploys are being closed off. I would NEVER risk any capital here without knowing that all my visas, permits etc were arranged properly and validly through the right channels.
There are too many snoops around who will report you if they see you being too successful. I know from personal experience.
Thanks RK. You have raised one good point as to whether I will be paid in pesos or dollars. As I said, I am taking this very slowly. In fact it is more a disbelieving unless I am proven wrong. On my two trips there, I have met some people in interesting positions so am slightly, and as an outsider only slightly aware of a few issues. As things proceed, or stall LOL. I realize I was vague, but at this point it is simply an germ of an idea that was tossed out to me.
I am sure I will have other questions and will post them to the the Living in the Philippines thread.
Thanks
Good advice RK, but I hope you will do the right thing and move this to where you KNOW it belongs.
This should probably be in the Living in the Phils thread but anyway.
SNIP.
WOW.
God bless America LOL _<
Seriously check this out.
I mailed AFA thus:
"ahead of going Platinum, I wanted to check in with you about some things I've picked up on looking at your site.
I am not American.
I do not live in the US.
As such the whole marital and criminal history and other things the US is doing to control and manipulate the world of international marriage don't directly apply to me.
But how does that manifest?
Does it mean that I will be basically be paralyzed and unable to actually / properly contact women on your site / through your tours?
Or does it mean that I will be hand waved through these security measures?"
Their response:
"Because we are a US based company, the law will apply regardless of your country. Sorry!"
Good job US govt you just screwed AFA out of my money.
Anyways all that really means for me is that I either have to do all the leg work myself or I have to find a non-US based romance tour company.
FreebieFan
08-24-12, 06:38
Her intro line is." can I have favor its ok for you I bring my cousin joyce,
She is 19 yr old pretty and sexy like me. And we can stay over night with you if when you here manila and I hope you give 3000k each for & 3000k each for joyce and plus taxi fare both ways. Becoz we need for our school. I hope you understand. But don't worry when we meet together, we will had a great time having fun together and we will make you happy on bed. When you here arrive here manila? I give you my number +639464134727.
Reply me asap.Told her I'd want to have anal with the both and would want them to wear school uniform. Oh and asked if it was ok if I bring my neighbour to play also. Also added that hes a cop, so she would need to prove she's 18. Got to love the way some of these young girls are.
As I understand it, it may or may not be important for you to know that there is legislation that prevents Philippine banks reporting on customers who have their accounts in other than pesos.
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Thanks RK. You have raised one good point as to whether I will be paid in pesos or dollars. As I said, I am taking this very slowly. In fact it is more a disbelieving unless I am proven wrong. On my two trips there, I have met some people in interesting positions so am slightly, and as an outsider only slightly aware of a few issues. As things proceed, or stall LOL. I realize I was vague, but at this point it is simply an germ of an idea that was tossed out to me.
I am sure I will have other questions and will post them to the the Living in the Philippines thread.
Thanks
About 2 minutes into a conversation with roxanne456 of DIA, I knew that she / he was a scammer. She / he did the usual trick of asking to send money to buy a cam. Instead of just ending the conversation immediately, I couldn't resist the temptation to mess with his / her head a little."Roxanne" will be very disappointed tomorrow when I don't follow through with my promise to send my bank account info, social security number, and $1500 cash.
Roxanneaguilar456: your cam so clear.
Roxanneaguilar456: dear if you can drop a cam store please buy one for me so I can have one for my computer
Me: you don't have one?
Roxanneaguilar456: yes dear.
Roxanneaguilar456: I'm new in here
Me: oh I see.
Roxanneaguilar456: I don't have cam.
Me: well, your photos are very pretty.
Roxanneaguilar456: thanks dear.
Roxanneaguilar456: but I need to have one so we can vediochat when you are chatting.
Me: yes, that would be great sometime to be able to video chat.
Roxanneaguilar456: I like you so much.
Me: ty sweetie.
Roxanneaguilar456: thats why I'm talking with you now.
Me: yes, I have a good feeling too.
Roxanneaguilar456: I feel so comfortable with you.
Me: ty.
Roxanneaguilar456: hope you are the one for me.
Me: well, we'll see as we get to know each other.
Roxanneaguilar456: dear I will be better and feeling so wonderful if you will buy me a cam so we can try vediochat.
Roxanneaguilar456: I wana try it with you.
Me: How, how about I send you $1000 so you can buy one.
Roxanneaguilar456: but how can I get it?
Roxanneaguilar456: I don't know much about that.
Me: I'll send you my bank account information and you can take out however much you need. Also my social security number.
Roxanneaguilar456: but I don't have bank account dear.
Me: I'll send you all my info and you can just take as much of my money as you need.
Roxanneaguilar456: how?
Roxanneaguilar456: and what bank is that?
Me: Citibank [made that up]
Me: I'll send you my account number and my social security number.
Roxanneaguilar456: okey teach me more so I will be aware.
Roxanneaguilar456: okey.
Roxanneaguilar456: so whats next?
Me: after I do that, you can transfer as much money into your account as you need.
Roxanneaguilar456: okey.
Me: just don't take everything I have ok? Leave me a little so I can pay my bills.
Roxanneaguilar456: okey honey.
Roxanneaguilar456: I just get little of course just for the cam.
Roxanneaguilar456: I don't need more.
Me: of course. I trust you.
Roxanneaguilar456: its your money not mine.
Roxanneaguilar456: I'm so thankful.
Roxanneaguilar456: of you.
Roxanneaguilar456: is your details ready now?
Me: wait, maybe it would be better if you give me your name and account info, and then I'll transfer it to you.
Roxanneaguilar456: okey.
Roxanneaguilar456: what kind money transfer is that hon
Roxanneaguilar456:?
Me: can you tell me your full name, your bank, and your account number?
Roxanneaguilar456: I don't HAVE BANK ACCOUNT.
Me: then I can transfer however much you want.
Me: ahh, I see.
Me: then I guess this won't work.
Roxanneaguilar456: JUST SEND IT TO MY NAME DEAR.
Roxanneaguilar456: MONEY TRANSFER.
Roxanneaguilar456: I THINK THE 1ST IDEA IS BETTER ONE.
Me: I'm not sure how much a cam cost in phils. Would about $2000 USD cover it?
Roxanneaguilar456: cam here is cheaper that there honey.
Me: oh I see.
Me: I'm not sure about prices there.
Roxanneaguilar456: I can have cam for lesser than 1, 000.
Me: oh that's good.
Roxanneaguilar456: its good already and durable.
Roxanneaguilar456: I can have it anytime.
Roxanneaguilar456: because there is cam store near in the cafe 24 hours open.
Roxanneaguilar456: so I can install it easily.
Me: if I send you 1000 for a cam, will you do some special video for me?
Roxanneaguilar456: if you do the same thing
Me: LOL ok.
Roxanneaguilar456: I would be happy to see you.
Roxanneaguilar456: hhahahahahaha.
Roxanneaguilar456: I really like the way you are honey.
Me: yes, we need to see all of each other before we know if we are right for each other.
Me: sure.
Roxanneaguilar456: I agree and cam helps a lot.
Me: yes.
Me: so I'll send you $1000 for the cam and also $500 for sexy outfits, ok?
Me: that shoudl be enough.
Roxanneaguilar456: its all up to you.
Roxanneaguilar456: its more than enough.
Me: ok, I've got to go now, but I'll work that out. We can talk soon.
Roxanneaguilar456: I will wait you here honey.
Roxanneaguilar456: until you come back.
Me: I'm sorry I'll be out all day, so please go to bed.
Roxanneaguilar456: I just can't help my feelings so excited to be with you.
Roxanneaguilar456: hoeny just send me for the cam for now so I can reserve and call the cam store.
Roxanneaguilar456: because the cheap cam is limited.
Me: sorry, I'm really late. I need to go. But we'll talk later.
Roxanneaguilar456: how lonhg honey?
Roxanneaguilar456: so I will wait you.
Me: maybe tomorrow.
Me: 1-2 days.
Roxanneaguilar456: just tomorrow dear.
Me: the banks are closed here.
Roxanneaguilar456: what time?
Me: I'll let you know.
Me: I need to go now, ok.
Me: bye bye for now.
Roxanneaguilar456: okey just leave me message dear
Me: ok will do.
Roxanneaguilar456: bye and take care.
Roxanneaguilar456: text me when your online again.
Me: If you look good on cam, I'll send you more money to buy more oufits, ok?
Roxanneaguilar456: +639XXXXXXXXX [don't know why I'm being kind, but I'm protecting her / his privacy by over-writing the number]
Me: ok ty.
Roxanneaguilar456: I will be good honey because you are handsome.
Roxanneaguilar456: I must be beautiful too.
Me: yes.
Roxanneaguilar456: hehhehehe.
Me: and a little naughty.
Roxanneaguilar456: I will wait to your text honey.
Me: ok.
Me: bye bye.
Roxanneaguilar456: I won't be online if you don't text me okey?
Roxanneaguilar456: bye mwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaa
Roxanneaguilar456: take care
Hibukhibok
08-27-12, 05:16
Even when it is quite and abundantly clear from their own profiles that procreation is not what they want or expect (although it may happen anyway.) , I would say that 90% answer affirmatively to the question. Even more frequent than God Fearing.
Another question: the pill is probably quite expensive in the Phils w / are to the average income so the vast majority including the pros can't use it, but what about IUDs? IUDs require medical supervision, probably beyond what the average midwife can offer I suppose, not mentioning church interference.
I am a little surprised by the relative frankness of many DIA profiles which calmly state that marriage is not the immediate goal of the poster (although it may not be rejected if proferred) , in the land of the "chismiss" where a fairly high percentage of young and not so young women are on DIA, FC (under its various guises) , CB etc, surely many are "discovered" by their friends, relatives, parents etc.
On another topic:
As a dutiful father I just drove my slim FilAm daughter to her university in the NE US and I offer the following observations
1. The proportion of young American women who are overweight (from chubby to obese) is quite appalling (very few coming from disadvantaged families). If they are overweight at 18 or 20 what will they be at 30 o 40? Hence for me at least the added attractiveness of young oriental women. Which brings the second point.
2. The percentage of young mostly attractive Asian females among the students is quite high maybe 10% of the girls are oriental (Chinese from PRC and diaspora, Korean, very fewfrom the Phils of course) and they are all quite slim, often quite retty although often somewhat uppity or even frankly maldita in their appearance. They seem to be in general quite unapprochable, all coming from rich families. My daughter says that there is a high proportion of authentic bitches among them and that surprisingly their bathroom behavior is often quite disgusting, I assume that where they come from an infortunate maid (sometimes a poor but often well educated Filipina) cleans after them.
Stroker Ace88
08-27-12, 06:35
About 2 minutes into a conversation with roxanne456 of DIA, I knew that she / he was a scammer. She / he did the usual trick of asking to send money to buy a cam. Instead of just ending the conversation immediately, I couldn't resist the temptation to mess with his / her head a little."Roxanne" will be very disappointed tomorrow when I don't follow through with my promise to send my bank account info, social security number, and $1500 cash.
Roxanneaguilar456: your cam so clear. [SNIP]My first question is, why do you waste so much of your precious online troll time with filipinas you will never meet?
Second question is, why do you have to run back and report every few days when you had some kind of DIA 'experience' with a filipina?
I think you have some issues to put it mildly with filipinas. You are scared stiff they are all trying to grab your cash. Geessh, get a grip. I think you dangled the prospect of money in front of her like doritios in front of Honey Boo-Boo and she took the bait. I also think you are thinking in DOLLARS$ and she is thinking in PESOS. She told you a cam runs under 1000, and I bet my 85yrs old shrivelled ass she was thinking in pesos. A cam costs under 1000p in the Philippines and if she was any kind of serious scammer she would have asked for a higher peso number for the cam like 8000p just to see if you would agree. You offered to give her all your bank info like some smurf drunk on blueberry gatorade. You go around 'outing' filipinas for being a scammer, but what if you are wrong? What if she is just another average filipina looking for a husband, looking for love or looking for someone to pay attention to her and give her a good time and maybe a few pesos on the side? The average filipina believes that it's 'God's Will' who enters her life, and usually they are open to almost anything so long as the guy is nice and treats them right.
I do not encourage sending cash to a filipina you have never had the pleasure of meeting in person, but when you have yet to set foot in the Philippines IMO that removes your right to complain about scammers.
FYI a filipinas main scamming demographic is men sitting at home with their weiner in one hand and the TV remote in the other. Those guys have never once searched Philippine airfare and hotel info. No need, instead they scan dating profiles endlessly because they are collecting online GF's. They chat day and night with filipinas, feeding them lies about how they are serious and want to marry them once they arrive. Funny how that departure date always seems to get pushed back a month or two LOL.
You (if you did not realize Waz) are the scamming filipinas prey, and so you can't complain when an online filipina you encounter tries to ask for compensation. Do you expect her to go to the netcafe everyday and sit there for a few hours and pay the 30p netcafe fee out of her pocket just to fill your day with sunshine? Most filipinas are trying to get paid for being an online GF, and will request cash once in awhile. And yet that creates such a good environment for the guys who visit the Philippines on a regular basis to date these filipinas.
Reminds me of the time I had a chatmate in my room all played out after a nice session. She went to sleep with a wry smile on her face complaining I hurt her bilat because I jerx2 her too hard with her ass in the air. Yet she jumped out of bed like greased lightning when her online WUBF (Western Union Boyfriend) called her at 3am. In the dim light of my hotel room I could see her huddled nude next to her CP which was charging in an outlet close to the floor."Hiiii honey how are you? How is the farm? Did you remove the crops from the field yet? My friend Jamaica says you didn't send money, did you send the money?" I laughed and whispered for her to come back to bed. She didn't move so I went over and put my johnson infront of her and she sucked on it while trying to talk with her WUBF. She convinced the guy to make a trip to WU and send her funds and we crawled back into bed and enjoyed another naughty session.
FreebieFan
08-27-12, 06:56
About 2 minutes into a conversation with roxanne456 of DIA, I knew that she / he was a scammer. She / he did the usual trick of asking to send money to buy a cam. Instead of just ending the conversation immediately, I couldn't resist the temptation to mess with his / her head a little."Roxanne" will be very disappointed tomorrow when I don't follow through with my promise to send my bank account info, social security number, and $1500 cash.
Me: Roxanneaguilar456: bye.
Roxanneaguilar456: take careI truly recommend you get a life. There are many of us that enjoy Filipinas but some have a certain wariness about themself especially with "foreignres" Its because people like you create that wariness. I don't see in your quoted chat where she scammed you, I do see you trying a bait." For real scams got to Dragonladies. Org.
In meantime either go to Philippines and enjoy all that the country has to offer, or unplug your pc because your messing up our playground with your very unintelligent games.
. SNIP. You go around 'outing' filipinas for being a scammer, but what if you are wrong? What if she is just another average filipina looking for a husband, looking for love or looking for someone to pay attention to her and give her a good time and maybe a few pesos on the side?I am right behind Stroker in this (metaphorically speaking of course; your ass is safe Stroker).
Reading the dialogue closely tells me she is NOT a scammer but a reasonable, straight-forward woman.
If she was a scammer then she would have jumped right into the openings you gave her to rip you off.
Girls will go crazy over an 800 peso web cam if it is a gift. In fact, ANY gift for some of these girls is treasured and often will make them cry as it is sometimes the very first gift they have ever received.
I will never forget my 50 year old maid bursting into tears and crying and crying with joy when I gave her a brand new bottom of the range Nokia cp so that she could contact her family and also so that I could call her if I was late for meals etc. When she recovered she told me that it was the first gift she had ever received, as every spare centavo went towards her 4 kids and husband.
About 2 minutes into a conversation with roxanne456 of DIA, I knew that she / he was a scammer.I can't see the rational in this post. Taking so much screen space t report one of the thousands of chats going on every single hour fo the day or night around the world. Is this bringing us any good? As somebody said below, I feel you are the scammer, proud of being it by showing it in a forum about REAL sex, not virtual or cyber one.
FreebieFan
08-27-12, 08:41
i girls will go crazy over an 800 peso web cam if it is a gift. in fact, any gift for some of these girls is treasured and often will make them cry as it is sometimes the very first gift they have ever received.
i will never forget my 50 year old maid bursting into tears and crying and crying with joy when i gave her a brand new bottom of the range nokia cp so that she could contact her family and also so that i could call her if i was late for meals etc. when she recovered she told me that it was the first gift she had ever received, as every spare centavo went towards her 4 kids and husband.i had a very sweet very cute 25 year old (back in the good old days when i used to visit manila lol) and on one particular trip it was her birthday. this girl had never ever asked for money, had big boobs and a tall slim body so it was all good. anyways on the day of her birthday we went back to my place for what i intended to be a birthday shag. i gave her a birthday card, with some cute corny inscriptions (mine, not hallmarks) and told her we would go out for dinner.
she went to the bathroom to change / make up etc and was taking a long long time. i go inside and she's sitting on the throne, looking and looking at this card. she was basically in speechless shock. told me that in all her 25 years no one, repeat no one had ever given her a birthday. not her nagging " send me more money daughter ", nor her alcoholic father, nor the cousin that tried to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her on her 16th birthday etc. no one in her sad life had ever done this.
we actually didn't go out as she was just not capable to do so. somewhere in the night she started to show lots of sweet appreciation but all in all a very memorable night. so guys, a little kindness can go a long long long way.
I am right behind Stroker in this (metaphorically speaking of course; your ass is safe Stroker).
Reading the dialogue closely tells me she is NOT a scammer but a reasonable, straight-forward woman.
If she was a scammer then she would have jumped right into the openings you gave her to rip you off.
Girls will go crazy over an 800 peso web cam if it is a gift. In fact, ANY gift for some of these girls is treasured and often will make them cry as it is sometimes the very first gift they have ever received.
I will never forget my 50 year old maid bursting into tears and crying and crying with joy when I gave her a brand new bottom of the range Nokia CP so that she could contact her family and also so that I could call her if I was late for meals etc. When she recovered she told me that it was the first gift she had ever received, as every spare centavo went towards her 4 kids and husband.This is so true. On my first visit to the phils last month finding a small bracelet left in my bag from a trip to Thailand.
I casually tossed it to a filipina visitor.
Well by her reaction you might have thought it was pure gold.
Later in the trip I bought a couple of the bg's a tshirt from Bohol and they just loved it. Their reaction was genuine. At the end of my stay the same bg's actually bought me a small gift.
It was actually a very nice gesture. Filipinas don't seem to be as hardened yet as the thais.
Member #4351
08-27-12, 15:54
My first question is, why do you waste so much of your precious online troll time with filipinas you will never meet?Agree 100%. I have recently remarked on some of the regular posters on this thread who appear to spend all their time chatting and leading on Filipinas and never travel to the Philippines. As others have mentioned, this is why most girls can't believe it when one contacts them from in country with a local CP number.
Hibukhibok
08-27-12, 23:27
Your sweeties may become more selective and demanding in the future if the economy of the Philippines does improve.
Would you believe it seems to be on the mend, on the up and up and I am not talking about the various Ayala towers around Manila.
This NYT article may not be immediately relevant to the theme of this forum, but if correct it certainly will have an impact in the not too distant future.
I am sure that a few of you will raise their eyebrows, the Phils contributing to the economic rescue of Europe, apparently it's true!
Wow, overpopulation becomes an asset (you already were aware of that, didn't you, but not the way the author meant!).
There is of course the celebrated proficiency of the Filipinos in English, you guys know all about this topic!
(I just read a DIA profile from a girl nicknaming herself (innocently I am sure)"tart" who was "lust (just) looking for love"!)
Well here is the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/business/global/philippine-economy-set-to-become-asias-newest-bright-spot.html?nl=afternoonupdate&emc=edit_au_20120827
I am not sure about mining (copper, gold, nickel) and the attending devastation as if the Phils were not already badly scarred (illegal logging and overfishing etc) but there is one area where they already shine, it's the IT industry (see end of article) , as we already know from the glowing reports here about call centers girls.
But they are not the only ones, I have spotted some working in architectural firms as well as mechanical, electrical and engineering concerns.
Few to be honest, nurses are far more numerous, but the trend is up.
And this goes for the boys as well, I have spoken with some very good programmers in Manila (on line) on some arcane details (oops, I did not find them on DIA!).
Of course at this time the best ones are OFWs (well paid in KSA) but this may not last forever.
Also since for my own private and devious reasons I have become interested in learning Tagalog (wife is Cebuana and although a teacher does not know Tag as well as I thought, besides she is suspicious and not helpful) , I have looked at the possibilty of getting an on-line tutor and I have found quite a few, sometimes they post their pictures and many are young and attractive (of course they have to be female) and that got me thinking.
Their blurbs are well written and coherent and at $2 to $4 max you can't beat that.
I have been wondering if they had not some ulterior motives in advertising themselves, many ESL teachers are thus available. Also HS or college Math / Physics etc.
Maybe a nice way to get introduced to a pleasant and intelligent woman prior to yr trip to Manila (mostly) or Cebu (under the pretext of improving junior's grades) and then who knows.
OK probably no competition yet for DIA, FC etc.
I hope Wazoo has had time to reflect. It may be bad form to ask for something from someone you hardly know, but it cannot be classified as a scam. And playing the Wazoo game might just help this gal move on to something more sinister.
Nevertheless, no need to pile on Wazoo here. After all, the gal does have a lot of gall asking for a camera.
Some of these girls are making money or getting gifts from online admirers. Then they tell their friends, cousins, etc. My guess is that this gal who chatted with W was just testing the waters. It might be best to steer her in the right direction (you might get gifts after we meet) rather than create some kind of duel over who can get the best of the other. X.
About 2 minutes into a conversation with (snip) of DIA, I knew that she / he was a scammer.
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I hope Wazoo has had time to reflect. It may be bad form to ask for something from someone you hardly know, but it cannot be classified as a scam. And playing the Wazoo game might just help this gal move on to something more sinister.
Nevertheless, no need to pile on Wazoo here. After all, the gal does have a lot of gall asking for a camera.I may have been too strong to use the word "scammer" here. I doubt that this person (who may or may not be a woman) would try identity theft, but she certainly makes a habit of relieving lonely guys of their money. I attached only part of the conversation. Immediately after hello, the very next sentence was a request to send money for her internet. Although we exchanged about three sentences, she already assured me that she liked me very much and wanted a long-term relationship if I would just send money so we could talk. When I side-stepped that request, she started with the request for a cam. Also "she" would not appear on cam, but instead sent photos that did not match her DIA profile. You will notice the pressure to send money right away so she could run to the 24 hour cam store (it was in the middle of the night in Phils)."Her" comments came at a very rapid pace-faster than a normal person can type. Much of it felt like canned responses. So I have no doubts at all about her intentions. I usually just end things when the conversation goes in this direction. I was just in a perverse mood that day and wanted to see how far "she" would take it. I included the conversation for the uninitiated to see how smoothly some of the DIA girls can be to talk lonely guys out of money. I learned a lot in the past from other members who posted conversations like this.
And no, I don't spend hours and hours chatting up Filipinas on DIA. My extended business trip to Phils got delayed until after the New Year holidays. I'm bummed about the delay but it can't be helped. It's a complicated situation that is requiring more advance work than we thought. It's a ten year commitment, so I'm looking forward to many happy days in Phils when we finally get the damn thing launched. I made my DIA account invisible some time ago. I've already got several good relationships working and am just trying to keep them "warm" until I get there. I just reactivated the DIA account briefly to get some messages and this one messaged me. I didn't seek her out.
Mr Enternational
08-28-12, 06:01
I think you have some issues to put it mildly with filipinas. You are scared stiff they are all trying to grab your cash. Geessh, get a grip. I think you dangled the prospect of money in front of her like doritios in front of Honey Boo-Boo and she took the bait. I also think you are thinking in DOLLARS$ and she is thinking in PESOS. She told you a cam runs under 1000, and I bet my 85yrs old shrivelled ass she was thinking in pesos. A cam costs under 1000p in the Philippines and if she was any kind of serious scammer she would have asked for a higher peso number for the cam like 8000p just to see if you would agree. You offered to give her all your bank info like some smurf drunk on blueberry gatorade. You go around 'outing' filipinas for being a scammer, but what if you are wrong? What if she is just another average filipina looking for a husband, looking for love or looking for someone to pay attention to her and give her a good time and maybe a few pesos on the side? The average filipina believes that it's 'God's Will' who enters her life, and usually they are open to almost anything so long as the guy is nice and treats them right.I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the report. This girl is talking in pesos and he is talking in dollars. He offers her 2000 and with her thinking in pesos she says a webcam does not cost as much here as it costs there. It will be no more than 1000 pesos here. All the girl asked him to do was buy her a cam so they could video chat together. Then he started forcing money and bank accounts and what not on her. So who is the real scammer here? If some jakass online offered to send me money I sure as hell wouldn't turn it down.
I attached only part of the conversation. Immediately after hello, the very next sentence was a request to send money for her internet. Although we exchanged about three sentences, she already assured me that she liked me very much and wanted a long-term relationship if I would just send money so we could talk. When I side-stepped that request, she started with the request for a cam. Also "she" would not appear on cam, but instead sent photos that did not match her DIA profile. You will notice the pressure to send money right away so she could run to the 24 hour cam store (it was in the middle of the night in Phils)."Her" comments came at a very rapid pace-faster than a normal person can type. Much of it felt like canned responses.Ahhh so that explains it all. You only gave us half of the story. It makes much more sense now.
I may have been too strong to use the word "scammer" here.Why don't you just simply get out of that and move elsewhere in your attempts to establish a link? I can't honestly see the rational in pursuing a girl and discussing "hours" about bank accounts,"love-you-long-time", webcam for free,"I-come-and-visit-you-if-you-open-your-legs" and so on and so on. If anybody would report on forums all the talks he had of this type I would be the one to say to a newbie DO NOT RTFF as it is all crap.
I understand one wants to share some doubts and seek for opinions. But it must make sense, ie a tricky case. This reminds me of a guy in the Thailand forum asking for advice (telling the whole story) whether he should take a girl demanding for 15000 bahts (over 20, 000Ph. Pesos) plus food and shopping to stay with him for 2 days. No need to know the details of the story, just stop at the money request to make a judgement (ie no brainer he should have dropped any thought the minute after the request came to surface). At the best it is interesting to reaed "a girl dared to ask me for 15000 plus plus for two days", period. So we have a laugh. Same case here.
PS and by the way, none of these girls will demand money in other currency than hers...she might do the math and align her request to what is the standard of your country (look at escort sites) so it doesnt sound a big deal for the guy, but strictly in her own currency.
Tally Wacker
08-29-12, 02:52
You only gave us half of the story. It makes much more sense now.Yea only half the story makes a difference. I also felt she was talking in pesos but I also know wazoo is not a internet troll. I trade info and things with wazoo since I have been there a number of times. When you set your feet on the ground in the Philippines and the girls know you are really there everything changes thats for sure.
Hibukhibok
08-29-12, 06:46
All this thread for a humble request, for something worth at most $20?
25 years ago in the process of finding myself a wife (in the pre-internet age) I corresponded (snail mail) with 6 young well educated women in Cebu, Cagayan de Oro, Davao and Manila, (students, nurses, teachers).
No chatting, no e-mail, no cam = a lot of work.
Not one ever asked me directly and specifically for money, which does not mean that I did not send any, in fact during the course of three years I did send and spent a good deal but it was unsolicited or I considered it necessary.
Gifts for Christmas, Birthdays or Valentine's, airline tickets or transportation costs to meet me in M or C, some pocket money, clothes etc.
If you bring your girl for a day to some nice beach resort (in Mactan say) , make sure that she has at least a good swimsuit and a lovely dress.
Well one student (Davao) did send me a list of american accounting books and manuals that she needed for her studies and exams but could not afford and asked me most politely to send them to her ASAP if that was OK with me.
The books were not very expensive but sending them so that she could get them fast and in a manner such that they would not be stolen definitely was not.
On that occasion alone I did spend a heck of a lot more than $20, but somewhat later the graduation pictures did not seem fake nor the grateful letters.
At least for her all this time spent writing letters was not altogether wasted and had a positive outcome.
If only I could say the same for those like her that I had to turn down.
In retrospect I wish that they also had asked for something that they could not afford yet needed, as they of course did.
For something reasonable I would probably have obliged but they never asked nor did I offer it.
Check out DIA gal mistaken. Nice bikini. But what caught my attention was her apparent new experience with something called "cut and paste". LOL
Pages full about those :awful" girls demanding money for a cam. Scammers! But how about us? We all stick to one girl? Never flew "home" just to fly to another girl? Changed hotel since you "went home"? Different CP#'s? Invisible on YM and on that dating site sending messages to other girls?
Come on guys. We are scammers too in our own way. But damn it is so much fun we can't help it!
Stroker Ace88
09-01-12, 03:08
Check out DIA gal mistaken. Nice bikini. But what caught my attention was her apparent new experience with something called "cut and paste". LOLHmm possible tourette's or maybe that's her hint she loves multiples? *big grin smiley*
I had a flash of anticipatory excitement when I got this message from a gal on PinaLove:
'if I hve preggy I want kids like you your so very cute realy but imposible'
Until I noticed she is around 25 years and 25 pounds beyond the boundaries of my 'comfort zone'. Oh well!
Manta Ray
FreebieFan
09-03-12, 04:46
We are scammers too in our own way. But damn it is so much fun we can't help it!Sounds like a scene from Alcoholics type PinayPussy Anonymous." Hi I'm an addict. I've gone 2 days without having sex with a Filipina. Its been dificult but one day at a time.". At which point all the other "addicts" shout "yeah, good one, stay strong, you can do it ".
Damn. We really are addicted to the hunt, the thrill, the discovery and the fulfillment of PinayPussy! Maybe Apple can mke an app for it!
Member #4491
09-04-12, 01:23
Maybe Apple can mke an app for it!I am unfortunately still on the specification stage of my auto sms app for iPhone and Android. It will ping me when the texting reached a stage where my brain (the*ck) is required. That should be about when it is time to decide if we meet in my room or in a ST hotel.
Thinking of adding a rubber doll feature that will alarm me in the restaurant when it is time for action up in my room. Dimmed lights and mysterious but generic phrases should do the trick. And I can make the doll prettier than myself. A latex six pack bulging under the silk shirt.
I just got back from Asia and realized I will have to return in just weeks. Poor me? Back into the circus. Had 20-30 text messages on the phone when I woke up also the last days of my previous 2 weeks visit and this means many are in line for a meeting. Many sweet teens as usual, but I went out of my age comfort zone and met one girl that was 24 last trip. Sex was great. Very horny and small girl. Lives with a pinoy but want to try a bigger toy, as she put it. We have been talking on a social site for some time and it is all in secrecy. She "loves her bf" but are just not satisfied with the sex. Tight fit, I can assure you. I like these secret visits. She works as a receptionist. Looks conservative and tidy, so it was lovely to see this neat little girl unzip and size up t-rex with her eyes and hand, before she started to suck it deep. The way she licked my balls and border-lined to my ass was very erotic. She knew how to make a man feel good and she knew what she wanted to feel good, and this reopened my eyes a but to the "older" girls. So now I expanded my search criteria when playing the big numbers game on the social sites. Age 18-25 and then I go by looks (or size of the hooters). Significantly less work to get the girls above 22 in bed or even to a date without the tag along team.
No preggos last trip but I could feel the urge when I saw a young pregnant girl with enormous tits bouncing around when she was loading in stuff in a taxi. She glanced at me with a face saying "I am interested but pregnant so why do you look?". Most preggo girls I fucked in the Philippines could not understand that I wanted them still. I tried to explain the difference between sexual attraction and partnership attraction but I am not sure I reached through. Maybe pinoys are afraid of getting stuck with the baby to they reject the female totally once she is pregnant. Or maybe it is just Barba that still is a pervert. In any case, I am always willing to help if you have friends in need, my dear monger friends. In Davao especially. What a time consuming way to get to this point. Maybe an auto ISG poster app is next in line?
Have a good week!
B.
Wicked Roger
09-04-12, 09:33
Most preggo girls I fucked in the Philippines could not understand that I wanted them still. I tried to explain the difference between sexual attraction and partnership attraction but I am not sure I reached through.
Or maybe it is just Barba that still is a pervert. In any case, I am always willing to help if you have friends in need, my dear monger friends. In Davao especially. What a time consuming way to get to this point. Maybe an auto ISG poster app is next in line?
Have a good week!
B.Barba.
You deviant little pervert. LOL I maybe able to help your somewhat perverse tastes. (and I have ben called "crazy and kinky"! But they have not met Barba LOL)
I saw one the other day in Cebu town centre and said to my friend "I know someone who finds that yummy". She looked very oddly at me but I reassured her it was not me.
You have my contacts when you are next in the area
Member #4643
09-04-12, 17:43
Re: lynshoak.
Is this a woman or an LB? She seems keen on a romp with me, but I am a little uneasy.
If anyone knows her (or cares to message her) , please let me know. I would message her myself, but I have offended a few this way).
Asian Rain
09-04-12, 18:52
Re: lynshoak. Is this a woman or an LB? She seems keen on a romp with me, but I am a little uneasy. I would message her myself, but I have offended a few this way).Just write a polite message saying "I hope you don't mind me asking, but are you 100% female?" From what I hear, the girls get asked this quite a bit. And if she gets mad, so what? It's not like there aren't a million more profiles on DIA to trawl. Personally, I would suggest you ask the question as (photoshopped) glamor photos are often used by t-girls. Good luck, AR
Just ask her point blank are you a LB, what do you have to loose.
Then apologies and say now-a.days many pretty ones are actually LBs.
If she is worth it, she'll get over the question.
Cunning Stunt
09-05-12, 02:55
Re: lynshoak.
Is this a woman or an LB? She seems keen on a romp with me, but I am a little uneasy.
If anyone knows her (or cares to message her) , please let me know. I would message her myself, but I have offended a few this way).Ask her for her facebook details and check her photos there. She might be able to hide her gender in one photoshopped pic, but not in a number of everyday snaps. If she refuses to give her fb details or says she doesn't have facebook, then ditch her, she is a ladyboy. Nearly all Filipinas (and all lb's) between the ages of 18-30, have facebook.
Or else, you could man up and just ask her! They nearly always confess if asked. As long as you ask politely (not 'Do you have a dick or a pussy? ') she probably won't be offended. If she is, you got yourself a drama queen, and you are well rid.
Member #4643
09-05-12, 03:12
Ask her for her facebook details and check her photos there. She might be able to hide her gender in one photoshopped pic, but not in a number of everyday snaps. If she refuses to give her fb details or says she doesn't have facebook, then ditch her, she is a ladyboy. Nearly all Filipinas (and all lb's) between the ages of 18-30, have facebook.
Or else, you could man up and just ask her! They nearly always confess if asked. As long as you ask politely (not 'Do you have a dick or a pussy? ') she probably won't be offended. If she is, you got yourself a drama queen, and you are well rid.I asked and I am waiting for a response.
Member #4491
09-07-12, 00:15
You have my contacts when you are next in the areaIndeed I do. Thank you WR.
B.
Hibukhibok
09-07-12, 17:08
met a dia girl from cebu.
only being able to spare about 2 hours a week for inane chatter to filipinas.
over the last few months been chatting to a real sweet naive 29 why o.
never did sex talk enter our chats. cause i really don't care for make believe.
reading between the lines it was obvious to me that she was very " inexperienced ".
spent my first week in ac. subic. (had a great time) and then when i was shagged out.
thought i would go to cebu for some sight seeing and to say hi to dia girl.
we met at ayala mall and she was very shy but ok.
then she says we will go to her office and meet her friends. so yes i was shown off as a trophy for an afternoon.
bit of a laugh for me at the craziness of it all. anyway tell her i want to go to the beach in bohol for a couple.
of days and does she want go with me.
very much she wants to go. then i explain that we will share a room and a bed. she says thats ok.
so we get to alona beach nice room nice place for a couple to visit, she seems at ease, happy to be there.
nice romantic dinner on the beach then back to the room.
she showered first came out wearing small pink panties under a sheer nightgown.
so i ran into the shower and was out in about 2 minutes.
she was in bed watching tv. i could sense she was nervous, so starting slow feeling her body.
she went rigid, stiff as a board. asked her but i knew the answer before i asked."have you slept with a man before?". she answered with a scared little squeek "no".
haha guessed that long ago. oh well no way do i want to be the first.
so i asked her many questions " why didn't you tell me? have you seen or felt a mans hard penis? do you want to give me a blow job? would you like me to lick your vagina and give you an orgasm.
she answered no to all saying that those things are for after marriage and seemed shocked that a man would lick her vagina.
considering i was shagged out from ac i thought i would get playful. by now she was rather shocked and speechless in fact she started to make hissing noises whenever she was touched.
snuggling in close i eased my hardon into the crack of her ass.
she jumped out of bed so fast just standing there bug eyed and hissing.
thinking i would give her a thrill. i stood on the bed naked rubbing my cock no more than a foot or so from her face.
well she stared at my cock her eyes popping out and continuously hissing. haha she couldn't talk at all.
started to wonder if i should shoot a sack of cum at her but honestly she was in shock so i put it away and told her to settle down.
eventually she calmed down. i went to sleep laughing inside about a stupid virgin woman putting herself into a position like this. she also told me that all filipinas are waiting for marriage before they have sex. apparently thats their way. hahaha.
the next morning she went into the shower so i sniffed her used panties while i jerked off into her clean ones whilst watching a hot waitress set tables for breakfast. that was the only fun with her.i am sure that a gentler, slower, more patient and more gentlemanly approach would have worked. i do not think that she could have been that stupid otherwise she would not have never ended up in your bed.
you rushed things too much. i have had my share of filipina virginity and your approach was unromantic in the extreme with entirely predictable results.
Member #4643
09-08-12, 02:10
I asked and I am waiting for a response.First off, my new DIA friend did to respond to my question concerning her genetic sex. Must be an LB.
So now I have all sorts of interested women from Cebu. But my work is in Manila. Is it really worth flying in a girl from Cebu? Is there any reason to believe she will be more GFE (or less of a prostitute) than a DIA girl from Manila / Quezon / Makati City?
Most girls using online dating sites are prostitutes, it is a buisiness they need to make money to live and get online. If you want normal girls move here and act normal.
Cunning Stunt
09-08-12, 03:17
So now I have all sorts of interested women from Cebu. But my work is in Manila. Is it really worth flying in a girl from Cebu? Is there any reason to believe she will be more GFE (or less of a prostitute) than a DIA girl from Manila / Quezon / Makati City?I would say that the opposite is the case. In my experience only a small proportion of DIA contacts in Manila are obviously on the game and make it clear in their profile. When approached obliquely, about 10-20% suggest they might be amenable to becoming friends with benefits for benefits. The rest have to be worked on to differing degrees, varying from a date or two right up to the professional virgins who won't put out until they get a ring on their finger.
So now I have all sorts of interested women from Cebu. But my work is in Manila. Is it really worth flying in a girl from Cebu? Is there any reason to believe she will be more GFE (or less of a prostitute) than a DIA girl from Manila / Quezon / Makati City?It's a no-brainer. The same variety of women are also in Manila on your doorstep.
Just use DIA to find the equivalent set of interested women in Manila. You can isolate your search to Manila only, but also remember to use search locations like QC, Pasay, Pasig, Mandaluyong, Caloocan, Malate etc to be sure you have seen the additional options.
Tally Wacker
09-08-12, 04:21
Most girls using online dating sites are prostitutes, it is a buisiness they need to make money to live and get online. If you want normal girls move here and act normal.But from what it sounds you only know prostitutes right? How do you know any thing about regular girls that you don't have to pay for sex?
Hey guys, I've been to Phils twice now. First time I was just flying blind but as a westerner in my late 20's was able to score pretty regularly without paying.
This last trip however, I got onto fc. Com and absolutely ripped it up. Funny thing was, the hotter girls from those websites seem to be the easiest to bang? It seems counter intuitive, but some of the plain janes will put up more of a "fight" so to speak before giving it up, whereas the absolute makati knockout types are seemingly only a drink or two away from sucking dick?
Anyway, I'm heading back again in a couple months, gunna focus more on Cebu this time just to compare. Any tips on DIA as I used fc. Com last time, my usual way of progressing things was just to make small talk a bit, chat and swap facebook etc. Then text casually for a 'drinks' meet up. Never had to pay once, but sometimes the girl was super shy and I just wasnt feeling it so bailed early. With DIA I'm getting the impression I can be a bit more up front? But then, I did well just playing casual last time so maybe I should stick with that?
RK, you old son of a gun. You went out of your way to insult me about my use of DIA, but there you go. The DIA expert. I guess I'm not the only one handed typist.
RK offers some good advice about searching in the peripheral areas. (something similar to what I advised ages ago) , but of course I'm just some low life who VISITS the Philippines rather than someone who. (kowtow time). LIVES in the Philippines.
Like I said, good Search advice there. If you have the option (especially in rainy season) search Cebu and its peripheral areas sucha as Mandaue, Talisay, and LapuLapu. If you go to Manila in rainy season, you might want to bring an inflatable raft or something. I'm surprised that someone who LIVES in MM hasn't already given this advice.
I've got a big smile on my face as I type this. I stuck it to her three times last night. And she's already sending "miss you" texts. Life is good in east asia. X.
It's a no-brainer. The same variety of women are also in Manila on your doorstep.
Just use DIA to find the equivalent set of interested women in Manila. You can isolate your search to Manila only, but also remember to use search locations like QC, Pasay, Pasig, Mandaluyong, Caloocan, Malate etc to be sure you have seen the additional options.
Most girls using online dating sites are prostitutes, it is a buisiness they need to make money to live and get online. If you want normal girls move here and act normal.Not true. Although the girls require money they are not prostitutes. Many are looking for true romance but soon find out they can make money by giving sex. They do not want to work in bars and be a true prostitute.
They all know they have to give sex irrespective of it is a Philippno or foreigner. Sometimes they try to con you and get some food. But most foreigners do not have time or the patience to play dating game.
Ofcourse if you live there full time you will get lots of offers but all the same you need to take care of them.
Even the girls who live with you are prostitutes in the sense they get something by having sex with you and living with you. Moment you do not give them money they will be off in a jiffy.
To me a prostitute is a girl with more than one client. Calling a girl who lives with you and get paid is between you and the girl I prefer to call her a girl friend. I live here and talk to prostitutes and sex them and they use the sites to get more clients some wait years to ask for money as they have sponsors and they know the longer they wait the bigger pay out.
The average girl in pi in not online due to costs. Any who can afford it have sponsors and the others are looking for money. Like any thing there are exceptions. I say enjoy it for what it is worth lets see how many guys marry a girl they met on dia as I know more guys who are just getting sex for money etc
I should also point out with 12 gf some who live with me are not getting paid and I know the ones who would move out if I cut off the money.
But from what it sounds you only know prostitutes right? How do you know any thing about regular girls that you don't have to pay for sex?I still sex prostitutes and I pay for sex. Getting free sex here is like boasting about getting a tray to hold your food in a take away. I rather pay for table service.
Most of my girls only had 1or 2 boy friends and a few where virgins so if they are not regular girls then you need to teach me how to be a stud like you. The normal girls do not have dia profiles they respect money and come from middle class families they go to church and make great harems. Ask any guy who has tried to do what I do.
DIA teen named kristinebosbos.
Pay her a visit if you want some abuse.
I still sex prostitutes and I pay for sex. Getting free sex here is like boasting about getting a tray to hold your food in a take away. I rather pay for table service.
Most of my girls only had 1or 2 boy friends and a few where virgins so if they are not regular girls then you need to teach me how to be a stud like you. The normal girls do not have dia profiles they respect money and come from middle class families they go to church and make great harems. Ask any guy who has tried to do what I do.It is hard to understand you. You say you have a harem of 5-10 girls living with you who you take care of one way or another. Next you say you still are looking for prostitutes to have sex. You must be a big customer of Viagra or other sex enhancing drugs. Yes, I have seen the pics you posted and they are nice. Pics do not say if they are prostitutes or normal girls. Not sure why you go to prostitutes and infect your harem girls with all the desieases going around. Even if you use condom it is not total protection.
If you like your lifestyle there more power to you.
Sex in Phi is easy to get with any girl normal or otherwise. None of my DIA contacts who stayed with me refused sex. Yes, some on chatting refused to stay with me and those I drop contacts immediately. No need to pursue them. For some time now on my visits I have avoided prostitutes and have normal girls who stay with me 4-5 days each. This takes up my time of 21 days each visit.
On my visits to Phi I have met some expats who keep atleast one young local GF who takes care of them. They tell me it is easy to get poor girls as long as you are generous.
IMHO normal girls are the ones mostly in DIA. I have met quite a few of them and enjoyed being with them. Yes, I have taken gifts to them and give them some money but nothing close to paying prostitutes. Yes, my target group is 18-23 who generally do not have money. If I target older ones maybe sex is free. Older ones I can get here in USA for free, maybe a dinner and a movie.
Kristinebosbos on DIA. Don't bother. She's now blocking. I didn't give her any grief, so not my fault. I didn't msg her first. Her first msg to me was,"aren't there any women your age there where you live?" Either a very unhappy young lady or some net troll posing as a young women.
This started by me saying most dia girls are prostitutes, then by your admission that they only stay with you a few nights I would think these girls have other clients and some of these clients pay them, to me that makes them prostitutes. I still use prostitutes and use condoms as I like to give my girls days off, most days I sex more than 6 girls. I would not call all my gf prostitutes as some have never had any one else pay them for sex, and they would still live with me if I did not pay them as some are not paid to live with me.
The reason I tell guys to avoid dia and other online site is I have experianced both regular girls and prostitutes and very few regular girls will sex you on dia, they are looking for a husband and they are catholic so you need to engage them before they will sleep with you. There are some great regular girls you can meet by doing normal stuff here, dia is some thing most girls avoid due to the stigma of beeing labeled a prostitute.
Still enjoy the pinay girls lap up the dia lies, leave the regular girls the guys who understand this post.
Member #4351
09-09-12, 21:46
Never had to pay onceAnother one.
They won't ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING. They are too shy if they aren't pros, and are for the most part poverty stricken. Are you really that stupid? Did you make them walk home too? If you are as you seem to think, "God's gift to women", why don't you just get all the babes where you live and save the airfare?
I know you have a business there. How do you find the time to do 6 or more a day?
Another one.
They won't ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING. They are too shy if they aren't pros, and are for the most part poverty stricken. Are you really that stupid? Did you make them walk home too? If you are as you seem to think,"God's gift to women", why don't you just get all the babes where you live and save the airfare?Yeah he thinks they are online as they are so rich and want a white man, I met a guy who uses the same alias on another board, he said he only meets non pros and gets free sex, my girls with me said he was ugly. I pointed out "rich" girls do not sex men from bars and disco, that he was meeting some of the best gold diggers. Still a few years latter a new account will post here how they got scammed by some girl they met in a disco and he made her a gf but she was not asking for money the first time they met but now all his accounts are empty and his credit cards are maxed out.
Wicked Roger
09-11-12, 12:49
Another one.
They won't ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING. They are too shy if they aren't pros, and are for the most part poverty stricken. Are you really that stupid? Did you make them walk home too? If you are as you seem to think,"God's gift to women", why don't you just get all the babes where you live and save the airfare?And we sometimes wonder why they don't trust the westerners with an attitude and approach that PinayHunt has just shown in his first FR. The girls are 'ashamed' to ask and expect you to be more direct and offer nicely.
Some of the girls will do their best to look really good and impress even with their limited funds and is a matter of 'face' with the family at times if they know that the girls is seeing a westerner.
So PH realise this next time. And stay away from Cebu as we treat the girls fairly well here and don't want others messing it up. But if you insist on coming then remember what some of us have said in reply to your FR
This started by me saying most dia girls are prostitutes, then by your admission that they only stay with you a few nights I would think these girls have other clients and some of these clients pay them, to me that makes them prostitutes. I still use prostitutes and use condoms as I like to give my girls days off, most days I sex more than 6 girls. I would not call all my gf prostitutes as some have never had any one else pay them for sex, and they would still live with me if I did not pay them as some are not paid to live with me.
The reason I tell guys to avoid dia and other online site is I have experianced both regular girls and prostitutes and very few regular girls will sex you on dia, they are looking for a husband and they are catholic so you need to engage them before they will sleep with you. There are some great regular girls you can meet by doing normal stuff here, dia is some thing most girls avoid due to the stigma of beeing labeled a prostitute.
Still enjoy the pinay girls lap up the dia lies, leave the regular girls the guys who understand this post.First of all catholic girls in Phi do have pre-marital sex, have children out of wedlock, confession is never heard of etc. Only girls I guess who practice strict catholic rules are living a comfortable life. It is true most young DIA girls are poor and looking for a way out of their poverty.
After countless times chatting most of them say they are looking for permanent relationship and marriage. Some drop me when I mention I want to meet and stay with them which includes sex. I am not the one to waste time romancing and waiting irrespective of how good looking the girl is? Some of those same girls change their mind and get back to me saying ok for everything. Some want to know how much I will give them while others say they do not want money. All the same I have always given money to every girl who stayed with me. All are normal girls leading a tough life. They do not want to be prostitutes. I have taken couple of girls to AC because they have heard of it and wanted to see it. After seeing they did not like the lifestyle and vowed never to be a prostitute.
There are girls who because of their poverty babysit for somebody in exchange for just food and shelter and no pay. I have met some girls who do not even have decent clothes. They are not prostitutes. If they want to prostitute they would be much well off.
DIA is very good in meeting girls for sex. Yes, there are prostitutes lurking there, ladyboys as well as scammers etc. But need to weed out. I have had very good experiences with DIA girls especially from the provinces who are not jaded by anything. Ofcourse any good service warrants good reward. Ofcourse they fall in love if you are nice but I always tell them I will never live in Phi. Just hate the country but love the women.
Nice Guy 99
09-11-12, 16:06
I'm just getting involved in the DIA scene, although I've worked Tagged in other countries. The pinays on DIA are really a bit hard to believe in the beginning, but now I am convinced that it is a combination of cultural difference and crushing poverty that leads to behavior that is outside the pay for play experience in many other countries. OK, this is a generalization and I stick to the 18-21 year old crowd but. They are really sweet. They certainly are not hard core prostitutes. They do want a husband but they also need money.
Example: Nineteen, beautiful, met on DIA, emailed, SMS. Yes I will stay with you in your hotel. She shows up early (!). I actually had to leave her alone in my room while I finished a meeting (nothing stolen, she just sat in bed and watched TV, sleeps on the floor at home) At 10PM she gets a call from her mother and tells mom that, yes, she's staying the night. Next morning she doesn't ask for money. While she's in the bathroom I put some money in her purse and tell her that I put a "gift" in her purse. She never looks at the amount. Later emails me with a thank you (twice). And, a couple of days ago she calls me on Skype and introduces me to her mother!
She knows I'm not a marriage prospect and, in fact, might not even be in MNL often. She's just a nice person. Different life style. Different economic situation. Different culture.
I could give you more examples like that. Treat these ladies with the kindness and respect they deserve.
Hibukhibok
09-11-12, 23:57
The average girl in pi in not online due to costs. Any who can afford it have sponsors and the others are looking for money. Like any thing there are exceptions. I say enjoy it for what it is worth lets see how many guys marry a girl they met on dia as I know more guys who are just getting sex for money etc.
I should also point out with 12 gf some who live with me are not getting paid and I know the ones who would move out if I cut off the money.It would be interesting to find out how many girls are on DIA. I have tried to figure it out and I have come to the conclusion that in Cebu alone there must be at least 20, 000 ages 20 to 30, population of the island about 4, 000, 000, but it could be much more.
Very poor girls are also not DIA material as they probably don't speak english or they could live in isolated communities.
My conclusion is that every girl who can afford it (pesos and english) is likely to end up on DIA, it's sort of tsunami, a completely unprecedented social phenomenom, so far worldwide the Filipinas are in the lead I am certain. And there are many other smaller sites, with probably overlapping populations.
In every little town I type the name there is a ton of them.
12 gf at the same time? How do you manage? At this rate sex must be a form of hard labour, do you still enjoy it? Do you do anything else?
Hibukhibok
09-12-12, 06:09
Most girls using online dating sites are prostitutes, it is a business they need to make money to live and get online. If you want normal girls move here and act normal.That is clearly untrue, although an appreciable percentage might well be. Some profiles are quite explicit in this respect while others are more nebulous but the numbers are simply not there to justify your sweeping statement.
No doubt also many may welcome an experiment with benefits once in a while or if student a sugar daddy, a great Filipino tradition, hardly prostitutes therefore.
But many are simply there because it is a lottery ticket and who knows they may win the jackpot, a husband who will take them out of the Phils. And some do. Just walk the streets of any large American city or suburban shopping mall and you will see a few obvious FilAm couples if you are observant, you know the description. Or maybe find the right partner or husband right among her own compatriots.
I think many students are already on DIA. Most are probably there for the heck of it. I bet that a lot of your normal girls are by now already on DIA. Wake up this is the 21st century. Your statement is quite demeaning for many honest Filipinas even if many are out of luck (poor or single moms).
If you are in the market for something somewhat above the strictly bed / sex partner, there appears to be lots of good girls even on DIA (although they may or will fulfill this role happily as well). I would rather have a companion able to sustain a pleasant conversation and curious about a few more facts besides the size of my dick. Able to utter intelligent sentences, especially if we are doing some sightseeing, travelling around a bit.
Now if you care to look beyond DIA to sites like FC (and the sites which FC has spawned such as AsianDating, InternationalDating, HKDating etc, all of course infested with Filipinas) you can find some truly exceptional women.
Of course they are very rare. Women who in my younger days would have had me in the plane to Manila or Singapore as fast as I could have booked a seat in order to meet a few of them. Nurses, teachers, business women, engineers and even one doctor (and from her pictures she was pretty). Now I am sure that some are not what they are advertising themselves to be and could even be dangerous, nobody's perfect, but I also note that these women tend to be snapped remarkably fast.
Maybe a girl well educated and with intellectual tastes is not monger material of course but they do exist if you care to look for them.
Unrelated questions: Do you line up your girls in the evening for prayers, before choosing a concubine who will join you for the night? With so many choice morsels at yr disposal why do you bother with pros?
One of the best examples of a run away sentence.
Well, you know its so hard to speak about yourself. But all I can say is that god created me the way he wanted me to be and that is to be a down to earth, genuine and friendly person. I hate people for judging others without giving enough justification. Some people misunderstood my attitude, some people got hurt the way I act, some people got angry because of my indifference, but thats the real me and I don't need to pretend just to please anybody. Although I may not be perfect. But perhaps I can aspire to be one. =). If I'm your friend. Ill be your friend for life. I've been blessed with the wonderfulest most loving family and the best of friends. I love my life no matter what happened, whats happening and what will happen. I'm so thankful to god for his patience and to those people who love me unconditionally! I feel so special and loved. By my family. My friends.
It would be interesting to find out how many girls are on DIA. I have tried to figure it out and I have come to the conclusion that in Cebu alone there must be at least 20, 000 ages 20 to 30, population of the island about 4, 000, 000, but it could be much more.
Very poor girls are also not DIA material as they probably don't speak english or they could live in isolated communities.
My conclusion is that every girl who can afford it (pesos and english) is likely to end up on DIA, it's sort of tsunami, a completely unprecedented social phenomenom, so far worldwide the Filipinas are in the lead I am certain. And there are many other smaller sites, with probably overlapping populations.
In every little town I type the name there is a ton of them.
12 gf at the same time? How do you manage? At this rate sex must be a form of hard labour, do you still enjoy it? Do you do anything else?First the Internet is a big cost compaired to wages, computers are 2-3 months salary for a family. So it not just the poor who are not online, most girls I know have many dia accounts they even use fake photos. So the numbers are higher. All the girls I know who use dia do it to get money, they have clients like me already and get more via dia. I also know girls using it to find a husband and have a nice profile and they sex me for money to pay the Internet to find the jackpot as they use another account to get more clients.
As for 12 gf l love sex and on a bad day I only fuck 6, on a average 9 and a great day 12, I do work on my biz between girls. I also still find freelancers as I like to find girls who just want sex (sluts) who I can trust.
Hibukhibok
09-12-12, 18:55
First the Internet is a big cost compaired to wages, computers are 2-3 months salary for a family. So it not just the poor who are not online, most girls I know have many dia accounts they even use fake photos. So the numbers are higher. All the girls I know who use dia do it to get money, they have clients like me already and get more via dia. I also know girls using it to find a husband and have a nice profile and they sex me for money to pay the Internet to find the jackpot as they use another account to get more clients.
As for 12 gf l love sex and on a bad day I only fuck 6, on a average 9 and a great day 12, I do work on my biz between girls. I also still find freelancers as I like to find girls who just want sex (sluts) who I can trust.Wonderful, even for the Phils you are a phenomenom, fucking on the assembly line, no preliminaries I suppose, do you cum every time? I think you should have a statue somewhere, maybe on Mactan, next to the Magellan monument and the ferocious Lapu-Lapu. I have read some of your posts and I understand that you have some kind of IT business which involves programming, wow, I barely produce 25 lines (error free) on a good day. But for programming and for fucking as well I am a poor rank amateur, no comparison alas.
Thanks for keeping us wonderfully entertained, amazed, jealous and envious.
You should write a book, Casanova for all his fame fucked only 200 women during his lifetime (18th century) , barely 1 a month on average, pitiful.
A book or at least have an entry on Wikipedia.
Cunning Stunt
09-13-12, 03:04
Wonderful, even for the Phils you are a phenomenom, blah, worship, blah, praise, blah blah...Why don't you become the founder member of the Herr Fettewurst Fanboy Club? There are plenty of other potential members out there. You could do a roaring trade in selling 'I wish I was Herr Fettewurst' t-shirts, used pairs of his brothel girls knickers and prized items such as Herr Fettewursts stained figure-hugging skivvies and his used condoms (very rare). And when he ends up festering in a Filipino prison, as he undoubtedly will, you could smuggle out photos of him receiving one of his famous forced entry double anals. We would all like to see those.
Mistral Blue
09-13-12, 13:45
Got tapped up by a cutie, Playah on Pinalove. She's a freelancer in Las Pinas, Manila. Wants 4000P for one pop! Doesn't go to MBC because the girls there are too cheap, she says Has worked in Dubai and seems to think she can import their price structure to the Phils. Oh well, maybe some of you have deeper pockets than me.
Hibukhibok
09-13-12, 18:35
Why don't you become the founder member of the Herr Fettewurst Fanboy Club? There are plenty of other potential members out there.Why Herr? Is he German, I thought he was Australian. Well I am glad that you appreciated my answer, sort of.
People are attracted to sexual outliers, and Herr F is certainly one. That he can carry on with his amorous prowesses in the Phils in the manner he describes is quite remarkable. Yes I do worry about his future and I do not envy him.
Got tapped up by a cutie, Playah on Pinalove. She's a freelancer in Las Pinas, Manila. Wants 4000P for one pop! Doesn't go to MBC because the girls there are too cheap, she says Has worked in Dubai and seems to think she can import their price structure to the Phils. Oh well, maybe some of you have deeper pockets than me.There no end to these types. Just go to the MBC and grab one there.
FreebieFan
09-14-12, 01:43
As for 12 gf l love sex and on a bad day I only fuck 6, on a average 9 and a great day 12, I do work on my biz between girls. I also still find freelancers as I like to find girls who just want sex (sluts) who I can trust.C'mon man, only 12. What do you do all day? Why so few?
I'd have expected you would do at least 36, maybe even a half century.
In my best days, I was doing 135 sometimes 166. Now due to my work I can only do about 30 a day. Up your game fellah. Only 12. Sssheeeesh.
...Wants 4000P for one pop! Doesn't go to MBC because the girls there are too cheap, she says Has worked in Dubai and seems to think she can import their price structure to the Phils...She would be stupid not to ask as long as there are enough dickheads around who pay these kind of prices. Just move on. It has nothing to do with deep pockets rather than responsible travel.
She would be stupid not to ask as long as there are enough dickheads around who pay these kind of prices. Just move on. It has nothing to do with deep pockets rather than responsible travel.Exactly. I was recently at the Havana Cafe area in Greenbelt and was approached by a freelancer. Her opening gambit was $200 (about 8,000 pesos). Within a minute the price had been agreed at 1500 pesos.
As you quite rightly point out, there will be the occasional punter who will pay that initial price. You can't really blame the girls for trying it on.
Hibukhibok
09-14-12, 05:23
One of the best examples of a run away sentence.Wow a grammarian or a stylist, whatever. At least this girl does does convey something in her blurb even though it's a little inchoate, better than many I'd say.
She could be a nice woman for all you know. And may well be thankful if you wish to improve her english.
A hint for you. The French (when they still had a foothold in Asia) had a saying to the effect that if a Vietnamese girl was speaking French very well she probably had learned it on the pillow.
Offer to become her teacher, horizontally of course, for better results.
First the Internet is a big cost compaired to wages, computers are 2-3 months salary for a family. So it not just the poor who are not online, most girls I know have many dia accounts they even use fake photos. So the numbers are higher. All the girls I know who use dia do it to get money, they have clients like me already and get more via dia. I also know girls using it to find a husband and have a nice profile and they sex me for money to pay the Internet to find the jackpot as they use another account to get more clients.
As for 12 gf l love sex and on a bad day I only fuck 6, on a average 9 and a great day 12, I do work on my biz between girls. I also still find freelancers as I like to find girls who just want sex (sluts) who I can trust.1. I guess you meet only the prostitutes on DIA. There are other regular girls who may not like you. Yes, they do open their legs if they like the man. It is normal unless they happen to be virgins. If they are they would be selective. Yes, they do like money and gifts. Which girls in the whole world who do not like money and gifts from somebody they like?
But at the same time they will not open their legs to any tom, dick and harry who comes along.
2. I doubt very much you can have sex 9 times a day every day. Everybody gets burned out and seeing your pics you are not a young stud. Normal is maybe 2-3 times a day and that too requires few days in between rest.
I have done 9 times a day and can keep it like that maybe max 3 days and it is only if the girl really is horny and I really get turned on by her. This too requires to pop a pill every day.
After doing that when I come back home do not feel like even looking at a girl for a while.
At risking of derping.
FC?
Spell it out to me why'all.
The best I can come up with
Begins with filippina.
And ends with quoo p I'd.
Is that really that decent / a cut above etc?
Oh and.
Blumpkins?
I don't want to have any disagreement with Sammon nor F3 nor RK. Sammon, I've spent three days with an especially attractive and horny gal and fkd 8/10 times a day or more. As you well know, I didn't fire the gun that many times, but just inserted, got sweaty, and rolled over for a rest before sticking it to her again. Basically, sex anytime I could get it stiff enough to put it in. One morning she said,"I could see you were tired last nigt, so you did't fk me.". Said while stroking her love box.
I don't LIVE in Philippines like RK, but when I said good bye to my DIA treasure, she said she'd "wait" for me. One week later the next DIA bf showed up on her FB site.
And yes, Sammon, I could hardly look at a gal for two days after her. I always lose a few kilos when I visit Philippines despite indulging in pizza, baby back ribs, etc.
X.
1. I guess you meet only the prostitutes on DIA. There are other regular girls who may not like you. Yes, they do open their legs if they like the man. It is normal unless they happen to be virgins. If they are they would be selective. Yes, they do like money and gifts. Which girls in the whole world who do not like money and gifts from somebody they like?
But at the same time they will not open their legs to any tom, dick and harry who comes along.
2. I doubt very much you can have sex 9 times a day every day. Everybody gets burned out and seeing your pics you are not a young stud. Normal is maybe 2-3 times a day and that too requires few days in between rest.
I have done 9 times a day and can keep it like that maybe max 3 days and it is only if the girl really is horny and I really get turned on by her. This too requires to pop a pill every day.
After doing that when I come back home do not feel like even looking at a girl for a while.
To the guy who think that non pros use DIA to sleep with guys then keep dreaming. The locals who live here know DIA and other sites are just a tool for prostitutes to find clients. Only 2 on my 12 gf have DIA profiles plenty of my ex gf are on DIA they are prostitutes.
As for my personal sex life, guys I fuck until I finish and now with 12 gf and plenty of prostitutes contacts 9 is easy to manage in a day. I think for the last 5 years I am the hardest core monger in cebu, I had to move to virgins so I do not get the money problems from fucking prostitutes. Yes I can get free pussy but I live here and the freebies want to get their gold jackpot.
I have heard all the stories from pros telling me how they met a guy online and all he did was score free sex. To the guys who think they are studs getting DIA girls for free try living here and see how long it lasts.
Mistral Blue
09-14-12, 17:32
Exactly. I was recently at the Havana Cafe area in Greenbelt and was approached by a freelancer. Her opening gambit was $200 (about 8,000 pesos). Within a minute the price had been agreed at 1500 pesos.That's what I was expecting when I demurred and suggested the general price levels that I've read on here for Manila freelancers (without mentioning the site, of course) , but she wouldn't budge. And this is no cherry-girl, she's a 24 year old single mother, quite cute but not THAT cute.
Sure, if some guys are happy to pay it, then she'd be stupid not to ask 4, 000P for ST, one pop. But it's outside the range of prices I've read on here and so I was taken aback by her inflexibility. She says she earns 10, 000P a month working in a mall, so she really expects to exceed that with just three pops? Ambitious girl (smile).
Python, was the 1500 for ST or LT?
Hibukhibok
09-14-12, 23:24
as for my personal sex life, guys i fuck until i finish and now with 12 gf and plenty of prostitutes contacts 9 is easy to manage in a day. i think for the last 5 years i am the hardest core monger in cebu, i had to move to virgins so i do not get the money problems from fucking prostitutes. yes i can get free pussy but i live here and the freebies want to get their gold jackpot.wonderful sir, and later if the need ever arises (hypothetical severe heart attack) one of your gf will volunteer to actually give you her youthful heart for transplantation after having already given to you her lovely pussy.
i am not bragging here but i have had a few filipinas give me their hearts and pussies. but truth is that for their hearts, strictly speaking, this is a figure of speech, thank god.
btw one of my former mestiza flames of long ago just put on her fb page a long extract from some pop medical journal saying that a lot of sex was good for you, maybe she still feels after many years the good after effects of my worthy efforts (nowhere even close to yours of course).
Hibukhibok
09-14-12, 23:41
Example: Nineteen, beautiful, met on DIA, emailed, SMS. Yes I will stay with you in your hotel. She shows up early (!). I actually had to leave her alone in my room while I finished a meeting (nothing stolen, she just sat in bed and watched TV, sleeps on the floor at home) At 10PM she gets a call from her mother and tells mom that, yes, she's staying the night. Next morning she doesn't ask for money. While she's in the bathroom I put some money in her purse and tell her that I put a "gift" in her purse. She never looks at the amount. Later emails me with a thank you (twice). And, a couple of days ago she calls me on Skype and introduces me to her mother! .What about the mom? Are you going to fuck her as well? With a 19 yo daughter she may not even be 40 herself, possibly younger than you, perhaps a nice MILF herself (such things have happened) and she could have more daughters. She surely would appreciate the attentions of a real gentleman like you, just a hint. In the Phils with women everything is possible.
Hibukhibok
09-16-12, 06:51
Got tapped up by a cutie, Playah on Pinalove. She's a freelancer in Las Pinas, Manila. Wants 4000P for one pop! Doesn't go to MBC because the girls there are too cheap, she says Has worked in Dubai and seems to think she can import their price structure to the Phils. Oh well, maybe some of you have deeper pockets than me.Las Pinas, that's where they have the famous bamboo organ in one of the churches, it's remarkable indeed. I was there in the company of a young and delightful catholic school teacher from San Jose del Monte, my tour guide and companion in Manila and its environs for a week or so. I had met her earlier during a hike at nearby Mt / Lake Taal.
A lovely woman. 23 yo, never asked for anything but I felt that compensation was due ($100 per day plus a few presents such as clothes) as she was truly wonderful, I felt like a miser but could not have afforded much more.
Here's one who is either a very angry young woman, or somethingthing else all together. If you poke it, it will bark at you.
Jj. 99, 24, Indonesia
WestCoast1
09-16-12, 18:24
Las Pinas, that's where they have the famous bamboo organ in one of the churches, it's remarkable indeed. I was there in the company of a young and delightful catholic school teacher from San Jose del Monte, my tour guide and companion in Manila and its environs for a week or so. I had met her earlier during a hike at nearby Mt / Lake Taal.
A lovely woman. 23 yo, never asked for anything but I felt that compensation was due ($100 per day plus a few presents such as clothes) as she was truly wonderful, I felt like a miser but could not have afforded much more.
Hibukhibok, I was going to PM you about this, but you're not a paid member yet. Consider joining. If you can afford $100 / day as a miser, you can afford $20 / year to subscribe.
Mr Enternational
09-16-12, 21:56
Las Pinas, that's where they have the famous bamboo organ in one of the churches, it's remarkable indeed. I was there in the company of a young and delightful catholic school teacher from San Jose del Monte, my tour guide and companion in Manila and its environs for a week or so. I had met her earlier during a hike at nearby Mt / Lake Taal. A lovely woman. 23 yo, never asked for anything but I felt that compensation was due ($100 per day plus a few presents such as clothes) as she was truly wonderful, I felt like a miser but could not have afforded much more.Wow. I must be a mega-miser. I gave a girl 4000 pesos for coming to Palawan with me for 4 days. But of course I paid the $50 or whatever for her ticket and her food. Hibukhibok, you are Daddy MoreBucks compared to me my friend.
WestCoast1
09-17-12, 00:09
Wow. I must be a mega-miser. I gave a girl 4000 pesos for coming to Palawan with me for 4 days. But of course I paid the $50 or whatever for her ticket and her food. Hibukhibok, you are Daddy MoreBucks compared to me my friend.Yes. That's what I was going to PM to Hibuk. $100 / day is p4100, I'd guess 1-2 week's wages for a pinay schoolteacher in Manila (RK, is that close?). From my previous FR, one of E's girls was spending the majority of each 24 hour period with me for her requested 1200 (in reality, I was handing her 1500). For that she was a combination cute sex toy / personal assistant (scheduling my nawty times with E and J's girls) , taking pics for me, and running errands. Admittedly, this is on the low side, considering its Manila (the girl had a low expectation).
Hibuk, I'm pretty sure p4000 / day is not miserly.
Hibukhibok
09-17-12, 04:44
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Hibukhibok, I was going to PM you about this, but you're not a paid member yet. Consider joining. If you can afford $100 / day as a miser, you can afford $20 / year to subscribe.Oops, put my hand in the trap and it snapped.
Later this week, then, but wait I am married (not my brightest decision ever) now (Filipina of course) and a wife (in the US) is much more expensive than any gf in the Phils believe me, just her car and her medical insurance make me weep every month (among many other things, foremost daughter in college with good scholarship thank God but still).
OK, as I said.
I was naive I admit but quite inexperienced with respect to the price structure in the Phils concerning temporary female companions. This happened during my first trip there which was motivated by my interest in geology and old Spanish culture (I. E. Churches) , not girls at all! LOL.
Meeting my lovely teacher (half my age BTW) was not all what I had in mind but I took it in stride and it appears very gentlemanly indeed. Visited her two more times (same rate if you have to know and for longer each time). Well no walk for her down the aisle in a nice white gown as she had hoped but at least (think positive) I did my best to contribute to her dowry. Quite frankly I don't think that she had done it before with a foreigner but I didn't pry and actually cared little.
As this was many years ago her teacher's salary was barely $100 monthly then, quite a raise she got, but when you are very young (in the Filipino sense low forties) and foolish you do these things.
After that I went on Cherry Blossoms a few years for more such experiences but strictly planned this time.
Before her I had had an extended relationship with a Chinese who did not need a per diem but was still quite high maintenance herself.
I understand that a BF in Cebu is P 4, 000 now, is that true? Then why are you all ganging against me like that?
More about my fascinating bio some other night.
Now I just saw on DIA a girl 25 uni graduate mind you (or so she says) who puts as occupation "freelancer" on her profile.
Hibukhibok
09-17-12, 05:23
Here's one who is either a very angry young woman, or something thing else altogether. If you poke it, it will bark at you.
Jj. 99, 24, IndonesiaRegrettable politically incorrect statement, but under religion she puts agnostic, I like that.
Many Filipinas are similarly quite explicit in their profiles against their own compatriots and even other Asians. Lessons learned the hard way it seems.
The way they are sometimes (or even often) treated as OFWs in HK, Taiwan, in the Middle or Near East seem to justify their anger and surely being selective in such cases is quite justified.
I understand that a BF in Cebu is P 4, 000 now, is that true? Then why are you all ganging against me like that?I teach all the girls who are with me for a reasonable rate to ask more from the Americans. Because they feel so much better when they spend and in the end it doesn't hurt to take it.
Yes. That's what I was going to PM to Hibuk. $100 / day is p4100, I'd guess 1-2 week's wages for a pinay schoolteacher in Manila (RK, is that close?). SNIP. .Beginning teacher salary with degree and a LET passer is now close enough to 19, 000 php per month which makes teaching much more attractive nowadays and surely a better lifestyle than a call-center job.
So, based on a 22 day week, teachers are paid around 860 php per day which is close to what you suggested for a 5-day week WC
I'm not sure if it was on this thread, but there was someone asking about what uni course a gal (he wanted to sponsor) should take. Some suggested English (call center) and I suggested teacher and it's nice to see RK and I agreeing for once. LOL.
In addition to what RK has written, I've heard there are some special benefits. Gal I know said her family mortgaged some land to pay for the education. After getting a teaching job, she was able to borrow money (teacher benefit?) to get the land back.
That being said, I recently met a call center gal, and wow, did she like to have fun. When I asked about the night shift, she shrugged and said,"I'm nocturnal".
Beginning teacher salary with degree and a LET passer is now close enough to 19, 000 php per month which makes teaching much more attractive nowadays and surely a better lifestyle than a call-center job.
So, based on a 22 day week, teachers are paid around 860 php per day which is close to what you suggested for a 5-day week WC
I understand that a BF in Cebu is P 4, 000 now, is that true? Then why are you all ganging against me like that?It always been 1700-2000 mango and most bars, Volvo and love city 4000, arena 7000, freelancers 500 up, so 4000 a day is for arena type girls with out A photo I would say you paid too much
In addition to what RK has written, I've heard there are some special benefits. Gal I know said her family mortgaged some land to pay for the education. After getting a teaching job, she was able to borrow money (teacher benefit?) to get the land back.I think both X Man and I were supportive of teaching as an alternative career to HRM and Call Center operative when someone asked about supporting a chat mate on this thread earlier (so we can agree on some things X?)
Just further to X's comment, I extracted this from a blog I was reading about teaching (made just before they received the recent salary increase payable in Feb. 2012) :
". With the meager salary they're earning, one can say that teachers aren't really well compensated for their job. Thankfully, teachers in the Philippines particularly those in public school receive many benefits from the government. They're covered by insurance, get to avail loans, and receive a reasonable pension when they retire. They also receive bonuses, cost of living allowance, as well as clothing and chalk allowance.
Teachers in the public schools are licensed but those who fail to get their license can still apply in private schools. However, salary is lower and they don't get benefits like those received by public school teachers".
Cunning Stunt
09-18-12, 07:08
In the last week, I have been asked for my ASL on 3 occasions by different DIA girls. Not having a clue what it means and not wishing to appear webspeak illiterate (even though I am) , I googled it, and found out that it means Age, Sex, Location. You learn something every day.
Urban dictionary defines it as:
asl
What stupid people say on chats to learn who you are and where you live so they can come to your house with a chainsaw and kill you.
Bobiscool:hey hi hey lolololoollll.
Iamsohot:Hi,
Bobiscool:asl.
Iamsohot:49 / f/nebraska.
Bobiscool:6 / m/america.
Iamsohot:kool what is your name.
Bobiscool:bobiscool.
Iamsohot:no your reel name.
Bobiscool:bobby jimson.
Iamsohot:wana kis.
Bobiscool:ya.
Iamsohot:smooch.
Bobiscool:smooch.
Iamsohot:LOL! 1111 I g2g see you bye.
Bobiscool:bye.
Iamsohot:what is your adres.
Bobiscool:464 cinnamon way.
Iamsohot:k bye.
The next day Bobby's parents went to his room to see how he was doing, and found his head chopped off. Poor Bobby.Under Sex, I say 'yes please'. For the other two, I tell filthy fibs.
Cunning Stunt
09-22-12, 02:44
This Cebuana has got to be having a laff with her DIA profile pic although I shouldn't be overly surprised if she was serious.
Cunning Stunt
09-22-12, 06:49
The old, cold, hard ticker went momentarily into defrost mode when I read this profile. If it was a ISG member who misused this pretty girl, shame on you.
where have you been all my life. ?
I just met a guy in dia. .
He was cool, funny, responsible, divorced w / 5kids.
We chatted for long time. Fell inlove. Sharing thoughts. Building promises. But he just left me just because I got jealous when my friend add him in one social network.
For his reason that he got divorced just because her wife is easily got jealous. And afraid that his life will repeat itself.
I understand his point but.
One thing I can't understand is that he just left w / o thinking of the time we spent. The love we felt. The promises I kept. It all shattered. With just single mistake.
Its not fair for me, I was just a young soft hearted who believe and trust, is just left behind.
I'm not playing here. I really want to seek a guy that will show and let me feel loved, that he wouldn't seek for more because I myself would be enough.
That he will find jealousy as a sweet act. (for not letting him to look for other girls)
That he will chat not for sex, but love.
I'm not hard to approach, I don't want to become man hater. But I don't want another heartache to come. I'm not mad at him. I just really don't understand. .
If you are really into love. Then prove it to me. Don't let me believe that all guys "come and go"
Sigh. .It is amazing that not more of these girls don't become teflon coated the way they are treated by Pinoys and foreigners.
The old, cold, hard ticker went momentarily into defrost mode when I read this profile. If it was a ISG member who misused this pretty girl, shame on you.
It is amazing that not more of these girls don't become teflon coated the way they are treated by Pinoys and foreigners.Do we have a sort of proof about the reality of this story? I mean, lots of mongerers do leave broken hearts behind, but tons get their hearts broken (and empty pockets). After fourth grandma dieing, younger brother at the university, water buffalo sick, could this be a new trend?
Cunning Stunt
09-22-12, 07:33
Do we have a sort of proof about the reality of this story? I mean, lots of mongerers do leave broken hearts behind, but tons get their hearts broken (and empty pockets). After fourth grandma dieing, younger brother at the university, water buffalo sick, could this be a new trend?It sounded authentic and straight from the heart to me, but who can tell? But what had she to gain from recounting her sad tale in her DIA profile except maybe to soften up hard hearted buggers like me.
CS, you're joking again, right? I never know with you. The way I read her post is that she never met the guy.
It sounded authentic and straight from the heart to me, but who can tell? But what had she to gain from recounting her sad tale in her DIA profile except maybe to soften up hard hearted buggers like me.
Capt Munch
09-22-12, 11:19
It almost certainly sounded authentic. But I would hazard that there might be just a little bit of plagiarism involved. If this was from a filipina on DIA, then she is either extremely well educated or just maybe it was borrowed from somewhere else.
I am still trying to figure out why so many filiipina profiles say that they are "blond". Being a big fan of petite brunettes. I am happy with the way nature intended them to be.
Just my 1 piso.
It sounded authentic and straight from the heart to me, but who can tell? But what had she to gain from recounting her sad tale in her DIA profile except maybe to soften up hard hearted buggers like me.
CS, you're joking again, right? I never know with you. The way I read her post is that she never met the guy.I agree X Man. It seemed to me that she never actually met him in person. If she did then I agree with CS.
I actually don't have much sympathy for women who confess on line that "I love you so much" after a few chats and never having met.
For heaven's sake! What exactly do they mean by love? (rhetorical question. Please don't answer)
I have had to counsel the daughter of a friend who was heartbroken because her American "boyfriend" (read chatmate who had never been here) suddenly stopped chatting with her online. The girl was a gibbering mess because she imagined that this guy was going to come here and meet her and carry her off to a life of bliss in a land of milk and honey and then he just simply stopped chatting.
For every conniving and scheming woman on chat sites there are 2 others who are innocent and naive and easily mislead. It is good if you can work out which one is which fairly soon after you meet her online.
Cunning Stunt
09-22-12, 15:59
CS, you're joking again, right? I never know with you. The way I read her post is that she never met the guy.Guess everyone is entitled to a 'big softie' day. Best return to being...what was it again...a 'cold hearted wanker'..lol.
I agree X Man. It seemed to me that she never actually met him in person. If she did then I agree with CS.
I actually don't have much sympathy for women who confess on line that "I love you so much" after a few chats and never having met.
For heaven's sake! What exactly do they mean by love? (rhetorical question. Please don't answer)
I have had to counsel the daughter of a friend who was heartbroken because her American "boyfriend" (read chatmate who had never been here) suddenly stopped chatting with her online. The girl was a gibbering mess because she imagined that this guy was going to come here and meet her and carry her off to a life of bliss in a land of milk and honey and then he just simply stopped chatting.
For every conniving and scheming woman on chat sites there are 2 others who are innocent and naive and easily mislead. It is good if you can work out which one is which fairly soon after you meet her online.Simple answer is most men chat with several girls at the same time. Guilty! Confess!
As we travel to Phi we have 21 days or less. Cannot meet all the girls irrespective of how many wants. There are other issues as well with regard to meeting place, sexual activity etc. Some girls want to meet along with their friends and family. In my case I will never meet anybody unless alone preferable in my room.
Many girls especially young ones having never been with a foreigner thinks that if a foreign guy shows interest in her it means a jackpot to her and her family. A girl I am going to meet wants to take me to meet her family and parade around because there is fiesta in her barangay. Do not know what experience it will be. I am still deciding.
When they say " I love you " it is not true all the time. It simply means she has cast the first line of fishing into the guys mind. Heartbroken on chatting? Even if they are they will get over it quickly.
Every man has lied to to every woman to get into her pants. Once there promising a life with blissfull happiness is not good. Better to tell straightaway you are a monger and cannot settle with one girl. Unless she is a virgin she has experienced this atleast one time maybe many times.
Wicked Roger
09-22-12, 21:17
A girl I am going to meet wants to take me to meet her family and parade around because there is fiesta in her barangay. Do not know what experience it will be. I am still deciding.Probably means IMHO (and somewhat cynical opinion) that you may end up paying for the fiesta or a good part of it. As a good mate did a while ago when he visited the family and 27 relatives all turned up for a feed and drink. And of course he was paraded around. He just got totally pissed to forget what the bill was LOL.
The issue is when you 'dump' her and she loses face in the community which is a big thing and all the chismis (gossip) starts. The westerner is not there to see the real nasty way family turn on each other (I am aware of it from experience but not from 'dumping' a girl) and the cutie gets very upset etc.
But enjoy the fiesta Sammon, it is fun but be prepared to have deep pockets as it could happen that you pay for alarge chunk.
As an alternative, ask her bring her parents to a restaurant in town (eg TGIFs or something similar) and meet them there, just the parents. Maybe a way out of a possibly awkward (and relatively expensive) situation
Mr Enternational
09-22-12, 21:21
This is an example of why you only want to get on the websites a couple of weeks before coming:
Hi ...,
Nice meeting you, I think this is the last email that I will send you. I'm bored w / our conversation.
Regards,
JTX Agent.
SPi CRM.
She seemed like a pretty decent chick. One problem though is that she didn't have access to messenger so all of our communication was through emails, which pretty much sux because I'm not about writing long one-sided emails, especially to someone I haven't met. She had sense enough to call it off first, but of course I will send her an "I'm arriving" email a couple of days before I am in country.
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The issue is when you 'dump' her and she loses face in the community which is a big thing and all the chismis (gossip) starts. The westerner is not there to see the real nasty way family turn on each otherThis is the key issue as identified by WR.
If you are not seriously looking for a permanent partner then don't go through with it as she will be the one to suffer when you just disappear.
All "fiestas" are the same, except that the small town barangay ones are very "in-house" and involve simply consuming food and drink that few families can afford but they try to cater for visitors to save "face".
WR is right. You will be made to feel that you have to contribute.
If you have never experienced a fiesta just schedule a visit to attend Sinulog in Cebu or Masskara in Bacolod or Sandugo in Bohol or Kidayawan in Davao etc which are all major events. The local barangay ones are pathetically small and terribly boring.
Hibukhibok
09-23-12, 06:52
The old, cold, hard ticker went momentarily into defrost mode when I read this profile. If it was a ISG member who misused this pretty girl, shame on you.
It is amazing that not more of these girls don't become teflon coated the way they are treated by Pinoys and foreigners.Also I am always aghast by these men / women who wait to have 5 kids to discover that they should divorce, it's hard enough for a woman (and somewhat less for a man, but still) to have 1 kid. But 5. My record (former co-worker) is 7 before divorce, there was also this colleague who spent his time telling us how much he hated his wife, crazy, deranged, despicable etc and yet every other year was adding 1 more to his collection, divorced when he reached 5.
The innate urge to reproduce I guess (which is alive and well in the Phils) , nature taking its course.
In the case of this Pinay it's probably just as well since with the alimony and the child suport the foreigner may not have had much money left to support her (assuming he was sincere but of course he was not).
But of course fathers having large families and who still stray with fresh young things is also a very Filipino thing, but I still wonder what's going on in the girls' minds.
Hibukhibok
09-23-12, 07:01
This Cebuana has got to be having a laff with her DIA profile pic although I shouldn't be overly surprised if she was serious.Ladyboy having undergone a particularly disastrous course of treatment?
More likely a morena girl trying through picture processing software trying to whiten her skin and doing it very badly.
Or getting ready for Halloween a little early?
Why would you think that is written by an Asian person? I think her foreign bf helped her out on this one.
This is an example of why you only want to get on the websites a couple of weeks before coming:
Hi,
Nice meeting you, I think this is the last email that I will send you. I'm bored w / our conversation.
Regards,
JTX Agent.
SPi CRM.
She seemed like a pretty decent chick. One problem though is that she didn't have access to messenger so all of our communication was through emails, which pretty much sux because I'm not about writing long one-sided emails, especially to someone I haven't met. She had sense enough to call it off first, but of course I will send her an "I'm arriving" email a couple of days before I am in country.
This is the key issue as identified by WR.
If you are not seriously looking for a permanent partner then don't go through with it as she will be the one to suffer when you just disappear.
All "fiestas" are the same, except that the small town barangay ones are very "in-house" and involve simply consuming food and drink that few families can afford but they try to cater for visitors to save "face".
WR is right. You will be made to feel that you have to contribute.
If you have never experienced a fiesta just schedule a visit to attend Sinulog in Cebu or Masskara in Bacolod or Sandugo in Bohol or Kidayawan in Davao etc which are all major events. The local barangay ones are pathetically small and terribly boring.Have decided against going. I have seen many fiestas where there is a Church service followed by parade and rest of the time people are drinking and eating. As a foreigner it is boring. But for the local people this is one time they let loose and enjoy.
Hibukhibok
09-23-12, 18:31
This is the key issue as identified by WR.
If you are not seriously looking for a permanent partner then don't go through with it as she will be the one to suffer when you just disappear.Easier said than done especially when you are a newbie in search of the famous (and completely imaginary) GFE, and she is trying by all kinds of tricks to hook you and to load you with guilt and obligations (not all of them imaginary). A newbie and not a confirmed monger of course. They seduce as much as you seduce them (or so you think).
Having you visit her parents is the ultimate "deception".
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.
What do you mean? She traveled and you didn't pay? Are you sure it wasn't a typo of one extra zero? Do you think this helps the next guy who comes along? I find this kind of behavior offensive. But maybe I / we don't know the whole story. I would hope cheapy can explain himself. Duh, with a name like cheapy, I guess I shouldn't expect too much. As for the vitrol, why don't you share it with us? X.
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.
I think there is a website for beggers and scammers.
Some play the role as a baiter and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the scammer or scam the scammer and report their findings. You can also ask questions.
I think it is called dragonlady. Com.
Personally I do not want to send the time doing this but they are interesting to read and many dia ladies are on there.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.Already exist at dragon ladies dot org.
BrainDrain
09-24-12, 13:02
Every man has lied to to every woman to get into her pants. Once there promising a life with blissfull happiness is not good. Better to tell straightaway you are a monger and cannot settle with one girl. Unless she is a virgin she has experienced this atleast one time maybe many times.This para stood out for me. I just tell them my marital status in the course of the conversation, the express dismay, then move on with OK.
Yep, plenty of Pinay with broken hearts but they really do fall 'in love' and 'miz you' way too early without comprehending the notion of a relationship.
One pinay, happy to have sex but not sure is she wants relationship with married guys. Kind of late for that.
Nightrider1
09-24-12, 13:42
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.I did a user name search for jilivie and came up with no one on DIA with that name?
Mr Enternational
09-24-12, 15:07
Why would you think that is written by an Asian person? I think her foreign bf helped her out on this one.Why wouldn't you think it was written by an Asian person? I know Asian people with a better command of English than native speakers. Plus I have talked to her on the phone before. Phone numbers and work website http://www.spi-global.com/crm Checked out. Her friend is some vice president or something at the call center so she has a decent job there, not answering calls.
Mr Enternational
09-24-12, 15:10
Also I am always aghast by these men / women who wait to have 5 kids to discover that they should divorce, it's hard enough for a woman (and somewhat less for a man, but still) to have 1 kid. But 5. My record (former co-worker) is 7 before divorce, there was also this colleague who spent his time telling us how much he hated his wife, crazy, deranged, despicable etc and yet every other year was adding 1 more to his collection, divorced when he reached 5.The more you have the less each one gets. I knew a Jamaican guy with 7, but he paid next to nothing. Say they take 20% for 1 kid. They are going to take the same 20% for 5 kids, but now it gets divided among them. Makes it not worth the fight if it is with different mothers.
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.It is hard to say if she is scamming you. You could have sent 300 pesos with explanation that her fare is less than 200 and hope she keeps her word. If she does not, chalk it up to donation.
I have sent money and tickets to DIA girls whether it is short jeepney rides or far away provinces. No ne scammed except one. I sent that one only 500 pesos.
These girls sometimes do not have even 20 pesos to get on the internet let alone taking a trip. There is none they can borrow from because everybody she is around with are broke.
Some of these girls have never travelled far. So do not know the cost.
Some are definitely scammers but there are many good ones who are honest. Unless you live in Phi and have all the time in the world to chase girls just send some money and hope for the best.
I am sure the rewards will be very good if she shows up.
Cuba Tourist
09-25-12, 01:10
Seductive_angel says she does not want to mention sex!
Thanks for the clarification.
Why wouldn't you think it was written by an Asian person? I know Asian people with a better command of English than native speakers. Plus I have talked to her on the phone before. Phone numbers and work website.
http://www.spi-global.com/crm
Checked out. Her friend is some vice president or something at the call center so she has a decent job there, not answering calls.
Hibukhibok
09-25-12, 17:34
The more you have the less each one gets. I knew a Jamaican guy with 7, but he paid next to nothing. Say they take 20% for 1 kid. They are going to take the same 20% for 5 kids, but now it gets divided among them. Makes it not worth the fight if it is with different mothers.I am talking about colleagues who were well remunerated monogamous scientists, computer pros, all with PhDs from places like Caltech (wife hater 1 kid every other year) MIT (7 kids) etc. Obviously social and marital skills not go on par with their talent for the sciences.
A little trip to the Phils would have left them dumbfounded that's for sure and done them a lot of good assuming that they could have overcome their hangups and prejudices.
After all if they were having so many kids with partners they certainly no longer loved, I suppose this was because their wives were still the easiest and safest access they had to sex. Pity they never seemed to have heard about a few other things such as certain elementary precautions.
After their divorces I don't know what happened to them, probably not mongering in AC or looking on DIA for a new wife, but who knows?
Hibukhibok
09-25-12, 17:54
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.May be she was so taken with you that she anticipated many round trips.
There also buses I am sure that are faster (don't stop every half mile) but more expensive. 1 hr or more in a jeepney is literally a PIA. OK I am trying to find excuses.
Did she actually tell you about her barkada? Generally they try to keep these little trysts quite discreet at first I think. Or maybe she wanted to bring you all the girls in her alleged barkada with her, think about it 10 18 yo or so girls cavorting naked in your room.
Your stinginess may have cost you a lot.
BTW I find these discussions about alleged scams a little surprising, put another way that's the amount that I have to pay to fill up my Camry every week and as I noted before I am a miser, oops I still have to pay up, will do this week!
Can a Stupid Posts thread be opened? I nominate the post before this as the model.
Hibukhibok
09-27-12, 03:41
I did a user name search for jilivie and came up with no one on DIA with that name?Does that surprise you? After having being quoted here they often tend to disappear real fast, or maybe the op chivalrously did not spell her name correctly on purpose. Why embarrass needlessly a poor girl, although it's very tempting at times I must admit.
Hibukhibok
09-27-12, 05:07
DIA beauty queen tried to scam me for 3000p for jeepney.
Fare from Toledo to Cebu. It's 300p roundtrip. Her profile is.
(jilivie). I told her ok and I would western union it to her LOL.
I actually had to explain that I scammed her. Then she went ballistic and
Cussed like a sailor plus 44 txts. Lost face with her barkada. Not nice 18 yr. Old anymore.
We should start a scammer forum and share their "tools" of deception.
It was a pleasure to "scam back".
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.Cussed like a sailor! I like that a girl with a fiery temperament and I assume a good knowledge of naval things and lingo.
As for me (gullible, naive and no kuripot alas) after having been thoroughly scammed, I would have taken her to my hotel room to argue with her the fine points of Moby Dick, lots of sailor's talk in this book, not so dirty but still quite colourful.
In the heat of our discussion somehow we would have both ended up in bed and at some point I would have exclaimed "There she blows! There she blows! She blows!" or the "Sperm [whale] is coming!" and other utterances of Captain Ahab. I don't know why.
Of course only a foreigner with a polluted mind like me could do this to a nice 18 yo, a third or more of his age, you instead just wanted to take her to the Sto Nino, the Magellan Cross or the new Sugbu Museum, my apologies, and indeed for this kind of things P3000 sounds quite excessive on the part of this conniving piratical vixen.
Hibukhibok
09-27-12, 20:35
Hello. Am rosejean. Am very nice and honest girl. Not like other girls who are liar.
I do have 2 Filipino boyfriends but none of them have any income, so am searching foreigners for help.
There is no problem if you want to meet me here as long you are able to help me. I will do all your services.
I started work in bar as a bargirl when I was 15 in manila. Then at age 16, I was bargirl in cebu and when I was 17, I was bargirl in pampanga, angeles city.
I hope this year 2012 will be a good year for me.
You see am not a liar girl like others, I just want to survive.
Am sorry that I can`t love foreign man, I only love my Filipino buys.
I hope you all understand me becos sometimes I don`t understand myself.
You can also visit my other profile here, with name; Rosejean!
I want to meet understanding men and very kind. I like excitment so better you have girlfriend or are married.
Age and look are not important to me but you need to love me every minutt and every day we spend together in bed. I hope you are very good hearted to give me expencive gifts etc becos I don`why have anything.
So grab the chance if you want to try a girl who is not like others!
Her other profile is much less explicit, but marriage is mentioned.
In both profiles she wants children.
Actually I like this girl, her frankness and sincerity are most refreshing.
Of course her Filipino BFs are pimping her, poor girl.
A girl like no other indeed.
Hibukhibok
09-28-12, 04:09
On second thought I am beginning to doubt that the strange profile that I mentioned earlier could be authentic. Looks more like a piece of flypaper which will attract many curious insects and entrap a few. Possibly a practical joke at the expense of some innocent girl, she seems to have another profile quite normal, innocuous and undistinguishable from most. Or maybe it's completely imaginary.
run away from that. a girl talking about **** sex and 2 boyfriends, expect to be locked up or just extorted if you meet her in your motel
Hibukhibok
09-28-12, 18:02
run away from that. a girl talking about **** sex and 2 boyfriends, expect to be locked up or just extorted if you meet her in your motelno worry, it's obviously a prank, lookup her on fb, she is just a schoolgirl. more dia nonsense but never seen this before. frenzy she is in cebu, actually lapu-lapu, maybe you want to check her up. i am surprised she has not yet caught up with this nonsense and removed "her" profile, but maybe she can't if somebody else did it for her.
Hibukhibok
09-28-12, 18:13
Actually the "prostis" are more honest.Agreed, more honest than most doctors and lawyers, my own experience. At least when you are through with them you don't get exorbitant bills in the mail for various "services rendered" that you never knew they actually performed much less rendered.
Hibukhibok
10-01-12, 20:31
I had a DIA girl before who told me she might not be online for a month because she was out of budget and can not pay for her internet connection. Stupid as I am, I sent her monies through PayPal. We chatted online via Skype almost everyday. One day she ask me that her mother wants to borrow some cash for me, around 40K to pay for her grandfather's hospital bill. I am glad I came to my senses!Always amazed that in this day and age while we furiously use the capabilities of the internet to our advantage we still manage to forget a good deal what it can accomplish. Before implying that you were about to fall victim to the "sick lolo scam" I would have tried to ascertain the reality of the scam, not very hard it seems to me.
And BTW be grateful that there are good hospitals in the Phils that will treat you for a small fraction of what you would pay elsewhere particularly in the USA and most of the time just as well. Here Lolo's bill would have been 40k$ not 40kP. A little out of topic. Sorry.
Hibukhibok
10-01-12, 21:08
My dear beloved (wife) was a little late with her phone service connection (to the Phils) payment. Calls her parents two or three times a day. So I get this call to remind her to pay up.
Nice sweet voice from a girl at a call center in Pasig, promise her that DB will send the check ASAP and now I start talking with her, yes she is bored, yes it's very late for her but the money is good, I ask for her FB, YM, Skype and she complies, her FB info was correct.
23, very cute, obviously way overeducated for her job. Sent her a friendly but innocuous message, she answers, so I have a contact in Manila w / o even using DIA. Not sure I will follow through obviously since I am sure she will look me up if she has not already done so, obviously.
Sigh, young, pretty, intelligent what else would you want?
Probably not so many such contacts in the future as DB's parents are getting Skype at last.
Radical Guy
10-02-12, 19:31
Agreed, more honest than most doctors and lawyers, my own experience. At least when you are through with them you don't get exorbitant bills in the mail for various "services rendered" that you never knew they actually performed much less rendered.I always get my exorbitant legal fees in advance, so I don't need to send exorbitant bills in the mail. Since a high percentage of clients declare bankruptcy, I won't risk financing a high balance due. And for your information, I overbill all my clients fairly and equally! LOL
Soapy Smith
10-02-12, 21:14
I always get my exorbitant legal fees in advance, so I don't need to send exorbitant bills in the mail. Since a high percentage of clients declare bankruptcy, I won't risk financing a high balance due. And for your information, I overbill all my clients fairly and equally! LOLROTFLMAO
(and just had my initial message refused because it wasn't at least ten characters)
FreebieFan
10-06-12, 15:09
My dear beloved (wife) was a little late with her phone service connection (to the Phils) payment. Calls her parents two or three times a day. So I get this call to remind her to pay up.
Nice sweet voice from a girl at a call center in Pasig, promise her that DB will send the check ASAP and now I start talking with her, yes she is bored, yes it's very late for her but the money is good, I ask for her FB, YM, Skype and she complies, her FB info was correct.
23, very cute, obviously way overeducated for her job. Sent her a friendly but innocuous message, she answers, so I have a contact in Manila w / o even using DIA. Not sure I will follow through obviously since I am sure she will look me up if she has not already done so, obviously.
Sigh, young, pretty, intelligent what else would you want?
Probably not so many such contacts in the future as DB's parents are getting Skype at last.Mate, you have made 8 out of the last 9 posts here. Maybe Wordpress might be a better palce for your literary skills. Or maybe prefer replying to yourself better?
Member #4351
10-06-12, 15:57
Mate, you have made 8 out of the last 9 posts here.Ok, so then its my turn. Now that I will be arriving in Cebu in the next couple of days, I'm at the point of verifying my "friends" from the chat sites with whom I have been in contact during the last couple of weeks. It has been said before, and I'll say it again: BEFORE MEETING; ALWAYS SEE THEM FIRST ON WEBCAM AND CALL AND TALK TO THEM AT THE SAME TIME! I have turned up a bunch of fake photos and outed a couple of "chicas con sorpresa" by hearing their voices.
Does that surprise you? After having being quoted here they often tend to disappear real fast, or maybe the op chivalrously did not spell her name correctly on purpose. Why embarrass needlessly a poor girl, although it's very tempting at times I must admit.Embarress them young. For sure.
"a bunch"
The advice is great, but the information is a bit vague.
Ok, so then its my turn. Now that I will be arriving in Cebu in the next couple of days, I'm at the point of verifying my "friends" from the chat sites with whom I have been in contact during the last couple of weeks. It has been said before, and I'll say it again: BEFORE MEETING; ALWAYS SEE THEM FIRST ON WEBCAM AND CALL AND TALK TO THEM AT THE SAME TIME! I have turned up a bunch of fake photos and outed a couple of "chicas con sorpresa" by hearing their voices.
Member #4351
10-07-12, 14:36
"a bunch"
The advice is great, but the information is a bit vague.Does that remark mean that I should be naming the girls with fake photos? I personally get tired of all the chat addicts posting this girl does this and this girl does that. Since I ACTUALLY TRAVEL to Cebu and only chat for TWO WEEKS before arriving, I see no need to sink to the chat addicts without a life level. I'm telling the guys who will actually visit the Philippines to make sure and verify that they are talking to who they think they are talking to. It is then up to those who will actually travel and do not just spend their lives chatting and trying to guess who is a scammer, who is a ladyboy etc. etc. to double check the girls as I have indicated.
. And only chat for TWO WEEKS before arriving, I see no need to sink to the chat addicts without a life level.
Do not just spend their lives chatting and trying to guess who is a scammer, who is a ladyboy etc. Etc. To double check the girls as I have indicated.To start 6 or 4 months before you go there makes no sense. As the memory and planning capatibility of the girls is quite limited.
But 2 weeks is a bit of a short window I would say. 4.6 weeks makes it more possible to sort out the weed.
If you plan to go to Cebu and focus on girls naming Cebu in their profile, you will be surprised how many do not life there but soemwhere else. Say 20. Then there are the ones who are too childish, only want to meet with a group of chaperones. Cut them loose. 10. Then the ones who ask for jeepney or bus fare of 1000 Peso now. Cut them loose another 20. Then for sure the wrong pics or wrong age : 16 instead of 26 or pictures when they 16 and now at 26 with a kid they are double size. Another 20. What remains? 30% of the shooting fish in a barrel. And out of then half may be the right ones.
Thats why you need some time to sort them out.
Have fun!
Member #4351
10-07-12, 15:00
I have more than I can handle after two weeks.
BrainDrain
10-08-12, 06:30
I have more than I can handle after two weeks.I like to register my dating profile earlier so that it looks like I've been a member for longer.
Make some initial contacts and then tel them I'll be offline working on a special project away from internet. When I start up again 1-2 weeks before arriving, they feel like they know me more (or at least think they do.) I think most of the conversations are very generic. They really have no idea what to talk about and have limited conversation. The girls I want to meet are not being chosen for their academic capabilities.
BD
What's up man! Would you mind sharing the FB page? You can shoot me a private message. Thanks!
My dear beloved (wife) was a little late with her phone service connection (to the Phils) payment. Calls her parents two or three times a day. So I get this call to remind her to pay up.
Nice sweet voice from a girl at a call center in Pasig, promise her that DB will send the check ASAP and now I start talking with her, yes she is bored, yes it's very late for her but the money is good, I ask for her FB, YM, Skype and she complies, her FB info was correct.
23, very cute, obviously way overeducated for her job. Sent her a friendly but innocuous message, she answers, so I have a contact in Manila w / o even using DIA. Not sure I will follow through obviously since I am sure she will look me up if she has not already done so, obviously.
Sigh, young, pretty, intelligent what else would you want?
Probably not so many such contacts in the future as DB's parents are getting Skype at last.
What's up man! Would you mind sharing the FB page? You can shoot me a private message. Thanks!Maybe I'm just getting cranky after 6 weeks back in USA, also getting my first disciplinary point after many years on this board however, would somebody please remark on this guy's entire 3 posts? There are at least 35 million women in the Philippines and after two posts (this is his third) , he asks for that information?
Member #4351
10-09-12, 01:35
Maybe I'm just getting cranky after 6 weeks back in USA, also getting my first disciplinary point after many years on this board however, would somebody please remark on this guy's entire 3 posts? There are at least 35 million women in the Philippines and after two posts (this is his third) , he asks for that information?I would venture to say that he is of a certain ethnic group fond of these types of posts and who aren't welcomed with open arms in LOS clubs. Just a guess.
Stroker Ace88
10-09-12, 01:57
Maybe I'm just getting cranky after 6 weeks back in USA, also getting my first disciplinary point after many years on this board however, would somebody please remark on this guy's entire 3 posts? There are at least 35 million women in the Philippines and after two posts (this is his third) , he asks for that information?No need. Hibukhibok`s post seems like alot of bola. It`s possible just not probable. Call center jobs are some of the better jobs an average grad in the Philippines can hope to secure. Most calls are monitored by a quality assurance director (local person within the same firm) to make sure the call center agent is preforming the job correctly. Do you really think a call center agent would give out personal details to some guy flirting with her and risk losing her job, I do not.
BTW, most phones in the Philippines are pre-paid unless they are on a business account or direct billed to a credit card. That goes for PLDT and Globelines landlines (pre-pay) and most cell phones. If she was using a phone in the West then yes some providers do have customer service out-sourced to the Philippines. Again few if any call center agents will give out personal info to a maried guy located 10000miles away with less than one percent chance he will meet her in person.
I dated a few call center agents. They all tell me the same thing. Foreign clients who flirt are common, but she only has one job di ba.
Cunning Stunt
10-09-12, 06:42
Maybe I'm just getting cranky after 6 weeks back in USA, also getting my first disciplinary point after many years on this board however....Something odd is happening on this forum. I recently received a yellow card for a most innocuous post (at least for me) where I basically amplified and agreed with what another senior member had rather more vehemently asserted (and yet strangely his post was left untouched). Either we have ourselves a keen new moderator at work or the management is taking a more hands on approach of late. Mmm, 'if its not broke, why fix it' springs readily to mind.
Thing is I really couldn't care less if I was moderated or worse. Without a bit of controversy, argument and edge, the whole thing rapidly becomes rather turgid and boring, a direction which it has tended towards of late. Most of us secretly enjoyed the posts of Chocha Monger and even Warbucks and their absence detracts from the forum. The only thing which rescues it is the photos and to a lesser degree the PM facility, which are, of course, the very thing that brings in the paying punters in the first place (most of whom I would imagine are non-participating lurkers). You have no reason to join at all in order to peruse reports and other useful information. As I am far and away the most prolific photo contributor on this forum since I joined, maybe if I was moderated I wouldn't feel beholden to give so much and so save myself the time and effort.
Maybe I ought to be more rude and controversial like X Man used to be and therefore earn my just deserts? And I seem to recall that once moderated he virtually stopped contributing photo material and so saved his best stuff for his own personal wank stash. And he is one hell of a wanker!
There, made a start..lol.
Maybe I should change my pseudonym to W Man?
SNIP And he is one hell of a wanker!
There, made a start. LOL.
Wicked Roger
10-09-12, 14:59
I would venture to say that he is of a certain ethnic group fond of these types of posts and who aren't welcomed with open arms in LOS clubs. Just a guess.I think the first few words give it away apart from being a poster of less than 5 FRs and asking for information that no one will take seriously in this board at least
Tally Wacker
10-09-12, 16:01
Something odd is happening on this forum. I recently received a yellow card for a most innocuous post (at least for me) where I basically amplified and agreed with what another senior member had rather more vehemently asserted (and yet strangely his post was left untouched). Either we have ourselves a keen new moderator at work or the management is taking a more hands on approach of late. Mmm, 'if its not broke, why fix it' springs readily to mind.Well I received the same yellow card on the same post as you. Mine was in the same tone as the 3 or 4 other members who were not moderated. I guess we are rubbing elbows with the wrong people. Oh well.
I have just started my acitivities in the Philippines and this forum has been an excellent source of information. I have organised some business in the Phils and have visited there twice from Australian in the last four months and will be going again in the next two week which will include visiting Manila, Cebu City and AC.
Until now I haven't been a contributor, I guess because I haven't had much to contribute, but my first two trips have been an eye opener for me and taught me some a lot. I sent a pm to a senior member and received a mild and entirely justified rebuke that I was not a contributor and he is right. Time to change and give back to the forum so I will be posting the stories from my first two visits and the things I learned. I encourage others in my situation to do the same.
From DIA.
"NO GERMAN PLEASE.
Looking for my soul mate. Yeah yeah I am back here again looking around I hope I won't meet such an ass. Again."
What is it about our German friends that sometimes rub people the wrong way?
Just one man's observation but when I had my home in the DR in a heavily invested German town, I always said,"now I know why we got in two wars with them."
From DIA.
"NO GERMAN PLEASE.
Looking for my soul mate. Yeah yeah I am back here again looking around I hope I won't meet such an ass. Again."
What is it about our German friends that sometimes rub people the wrong way?We forget every thing and yet we know everything. I tell girls I am not a nice guy due to my DNA and they still stay arround. There are many stories of Germans getting killed by Asians and Irish, but I rather be German than French every one hates the French, most of us have driven a German car and liked it, french can only make good food.
I was thinking about having a kid here but relised it would be a wolf amongst the sheep, I have one gf who has a German father you seen her picture here, she is hated by all my other gf as she is so German. Luckily she is not smart or they would kill her.
Slip and F3, I think you guys are speaking tongue in cheek. LOL. I hope we can joke about stereotypes without anyone getting offended. I've met some very good German people, but also met the a-hole variety. And can't think of any culture where the this doesn't apply.
F3 did you mean the offspring would be the sheep among the wolves? My own half- (east) Asian offspring does quite well with the ladies. Wolf among the sheep. He's now uni, but I was quite proud of him in elem. School when he stood up to the class bully and knocked him down a few notches.
Just to stay on topic, I have a terrible DIA addiction. Help!
Cunning Stunt
10-11-12, 15:02
I lived in Germany for 3 years and think that it is a classic Jekyll and Hyde personalty syndrome. Within their own borders they are Jekyll, a friendly, warm, congenial people and the most hospitable of hosts. Give them a passport and let them outside of their beautiful country and they turn into Hyde, arrogant, humourless and tyrannical. Maybe that reminds you of another nation but nobody quite does it like the Deutche.
Don't take my word for it. Ask the Polish (or Russian, Czech, French, Dutch, Belgium etc, etc). Or check out the Greeks for the present day manifestation.
Slip and F3, I think you guys are speaking tongue in cheek. LOL. I hope we can joke about stereotypes without anyone getting offended. I've met some very good German people, but also met the a-hole variety. And can't think of any culture where the this doesn't apply.
F3 did you mean the offspring would be the sheep among the wolves? My p!I have worked with a few Germans in different companies. I noted many of them are more blunt and humorless, and they leave a bad first impression. After a while I gave cone to appreciate the no nonsense attitude and don't take it personally.
X-man, I could imagine how many coeds I would have had if I was able to convince my parents to send me to the Philippines as part of some study abroad program.
The US Navy was my study abroad program. Of all the sea stories I heard during those years, the ones about the Philippines were the only ones that were not only true, but somehow understated. Olongapo city in 1981 was the ideal place for a hard-drinking, horny sailor.
I have worked with a few Germans in different companies. I noted many of them are more blunt and humorless, and they leave a bad first impression. After a while I gave cone to appreciate the no nonsense attitude and don't take it personally.
X-man, I could imagine how many coeds I would have had if I was able to convince my parents to send me to the Philippines as part of some study abroad program.
Hibukhibok
10-12-12, 06:08
From DIA.
"NO GERMAN PLEASE.
Looking for my soul mate. Yeah yeah I am back here again looking around I hope I won't meet such an ass. Again."
What is it about our German friends that sometimes rub people the wrong way?OK, I will look her up and tell her that I am French, I anticipate a warm and loving relationship, a Latin lover after a Teutonic one, what a contrast! And who knows maybe later a Franco-Fil (note the pun) brood. Actually more accurately Franco-Fil-Am (dual ctizenship) , better yet. Oops I already have one such brood and paying for the education thereof (actually putting myself in the poorhouse in the process).
Sorry young and lovely Filipina friend as much as I would have had liked to meet you and make your "acquaintance" quite thoroughly (and even be modestly scammed a la honey ko / money ko with a little WU monthly remittance, why not?) I have to give you up, sigh.
Now what did this German guy did to you? Left you with a sweet blond haired baby with clear skin? Nice and desirable features, lucky you.
Now to enliven my stupid post, I noted this DIA girl who wanted her future hubby to reside "within 50 km of American Samoa". Considering that this island is not 20 km long and 5 km at its widest I do not know what she means or wants, a gentlemanly god fearing dolphin maybe? (with a stable job between 40 and 80?).
FreebieFan
10-12-12, 11:33
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greetings everyone,
in their now-redacted reports, both vielendank and freebiefan voiced their dissatisfaction with being on moderated status.
vielendank is on permanent moderated status due to 9 past incidences of antagonistic behavior, including.
10-12-12 "this discussion should have been deleted by the moderator that seems hell bent on putting 1/2 the forum on moderation for saying things he / they don't agree with."
08-22-12 "why don't you learn how to write a coherent sentence you illiterate."
08-21-12 "wow, a 7-11 opened in cebu! that is earth shattering news. jesus! which one of you all like the slurpees more!
08-21-12 "i guess you didn't notice the hpv warts on that girl. when they cover your nuts don't say you weren't forwarned. what a dick."
08-15-12 "this post of yours is a perfect example of what i'm talking about. you think because you live in cebu, and have a couple homes filled with hookers, that your somehow blessed. let's be realistic, if you weren't paying these girls to live with you they would be gone. there is nothing attractive about you and your 54" pastey white ass that would encourage a girl to spend time with you unless funds were exchanged. i'm sure most empty their stomach contents after you lift your mass off of them. i never attacked you on my post and you, typical to your stupid ways, wants to make negative comments. i don't go to cebu because i don't want too. just because you live there doesn't mean it's special. you think because you live there that it's the best place to be. i know many people on this forum and have met with many of them too. ask david_33, i have spent some time with him. i know he just visited you not long ago. you and your ilk, for some reason, think you live in a utopia. when the money runs out the girls will run with it. here's the big difference between me and you, i have self esteem and don't need to tell people about all the girls i have or how many homes i have. people that have money, girls, home, etc. don't go around bragging about it, they just know. the other big difference is i have only paid to have sex with 4 girls in the last 5 years of coming there. i happen to take care of myself, keep clean, dress well, and am above average in the looks department that girls are with me because they want to be, not because they need a hamburger. again, ask david_33 as he has met me in person. my one home in orange county, ca is probably worth 2x all 4 of your homes. i also probably pay more in taxes then you make in a year. but, i am not going to get involved with you and have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. i do want to say to the other poster that told me to report a member for what he said to jackson, i did do that because it crossed the line. i'm not sure if the guy is banned or not, haven't heard from him. i'm sure i will come visit you someday in cebu. i can see that happening. the problem is, when i do, i'm probably going to take your girls away from you then your going to have to go pay for some more. the only reason you don't leave cebu is because you know the girls will empty your house and leave if they know your gone for awhile. you need to go develope some self esteem and quit being a hater. i know it's hard when your better days are past you but it's life f3. deal with it."
07-27-12 "club 54- the secret society of the pi's hey all, i have done my research and through diligence and hard work, finally came up with some secretive photo's of club 54 members. this is a society similar to the knights templar only with 54" waistlines and attitude problems! after having rtff for the last 4 hours, as they have instructed us to do, i was able to crack the code and identified them. you will know these members by their negative and sarcastic responses to new members who ask questions that they neither respect nor deem worthy. they will call people stupid, lazy, a waste of time, etc. they have anonymous names on this site like biom, sb, wc, wr, etc. and creep around in the darkness of their cesspool called the pi's. not one of them could have sex with a girl without money being exchanged for services rendered but yet, they will claim to be the experts on everything woman! you should take their advice as gospel and not question their words. it is a powerful group that are ruthless and unrelenting to talk about you and your families. i will post these pictures of the above mentioned individuals but you have to agree that you will not share nor reproduce them. it took a great covert team to acquire them and i'm posting at my own peril. i was also able to identify their leader who goes by the name screaming beaver. he is the diapered one! until then."needless to say, this sort of behavior is not acceptable, and thus vielendank will remain on permanent moderated status.
however, a review of freebiefan's posting history indicates that there is no longer any reason to continue moderating his reports, not withstanding his recent complaints about my management of this forum.
thanks,
jackson
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Questor 55
10-13-12, 00:31
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Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report Post" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.
Thanks,
JacksonTo be kind, maybe these members who seem hell-bent on creating ill will are displaying anger fueled by too much injected testosterone.
That word is one word Jackson, not two. I won't not expand on that as mom was an English teacher. Notwithstanding that, finally there are at least a few examples out there on how to post on this forum. No personal attack intended. Thank you.
Hibukhibok
10-13-12, 03:14
We forget every thing and yet we know everything. I tell girls I am not a nice guy due to my DNA and they still stay arround. There are many stories of Germans getting killed by Asians and Irish, but I rather be German than French every one hates the French, most of us have driven a German car and liked it, French can only make good food.
I was thinking about having a kid here but realized it would be a wolf amongst the sheep, I have one gf who has a German father you seen her picture here, she is hated by all my other gf as she is so German. Luckily she is not smart or they would kill her.Too much indiscriminate fucking addles the mind and possibly has other deleterious effects. You obviously need some instruction, if you actually want a kid. Fuck them in the correct hole, simple no? A wolf? You are thinking of yourself as a wolf really? Sorry but I was thinking about another animal, well never mind. Oh no, not the three letter one, I meant actually "dingo" (aren't you Aussie). Funny because in French "dingo" also means crazy (true, but what an amusing coincidence!)
I have traveled a good deal and as far as Filipinas (at least those I know or have "known" a small subset I admit) are concerned I must say that when talking with them about where I have been, there are basically three places in the whole entire world that they really care about and are anxious to visit if they ever could:
1. New York City 2. Rome 3. (and by a huge margin) Paris. They all know about Paris. Sadly any account of my visits to Germany (say Berlin or Munich) did not seem to elicit the same powerful emotions and literally aphrodisiac effects (in fact none at all as they barely knew these places existed) as just mentioning the magic word Paris.
Actually I have seen quite a few "Filipininen" in Germany, many with kids, are they happy there? I suppose.
Tally Wacker
10-13-12, 07:16
EDITOR'S NOTE: The general posting sections of the Forum are not the place to voice your personal complaints about the Forum's rules or operating procedures. In the future, please send any complaints about the Forum to me personally by email or PM, or post them in the Comment on Forum Rules section. Thanks! So you or someone answers the PM's or Emails? I sent a number of messages that way that were never answered.
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Tally Wacker,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/sendmessage.php
But let's understand each other.
Usually I answer every email I receive.
But maybe sometimes I have better things to do.
Get it?
In addition, if your return email address is no good, then I'll never even see your message because it will be automatically deleted by my software.
Thanks,
Jackson
Screaming Beaver
10-14-12, 03:26
Greetings Everyone,
Vielendank is on permanent moderated status due to 9 past incidences of antagonistic behavior.
One can only applaud Vielendink's continued moderated status. Something tells me it won't be long before all of his worthless posts turn to vapor.
He deserves to be moderated, but you should be ashamed of yourself, kicking a man when he is down. If he responds to your post, he's loses. You know that and he knows it. I have to admire Jackson, he puts up with a lot of st, but still bends over backwards when it comes to these kinds of things. V, play nice.
Anyway, this is the chat / pen pal thread. Shall we try to get back on topic. Some of us use DIA because it's free and has results. I haven't used Cherry blossom in a while, but had some good results there. If anyone finds an Apple Enriquez from Cebu / Lapu, let me know. I have pictures. She left my room in the wee hours with some of my money.
One can only applaud Vielendink's continued moderated status. Something tells me it won't be long before all of his worthless posts turn to vapor.
One can only applaud Vielendink's continued moderated status. Something tells me it won't be long before all of his worthless posts turn to vapor.It's funny you mention this because I and I'm sure most members would include you in the same category!
SergeantRay
10-14-12, 19:24
Anyway, this is the chat / pen pal thread. Shall we try to get back on topic. Some of us use DIA because it's free and has results. I haven't used Cherry blossom in a while, but had some good results there. If anyone finds an Apple Enriquez from Cebu / Lapu, let me know. I have pictures. She left my room in the wee hours with some of my money.X Man,
I always take a portable safe with me. MasterLock makes one. It won't stop anyone with a set of tools, but a maid or the girl you bring back to your room can't get into it.
Hibukhibok
10-14-12, 23:35
Embarress them young. For sure.Not sure what you mean. Embarress?
Could be Spanish: Embarazo? Embarazo means pregnancy. The wish of many it seems. I haven't embarrassed any young Filipina (that I was not married with) , worried about it, yes, but in the end nothing. Some disappointment maybe, but not on my part.
Could be French: Embrasser? Embrasser means to kiss. Sometimes mistranslated, example from FilipinoCupid: "I want my future husband to kiss me every night before going to sleep", the automatic translation provided by FC gives baiser for to kiss. But baiser while quaint and poetic ordinarilly means to fuck. So FC translates into French the original English sentence in a way that really says "I want my future husband to fuck me every night before going to sleep", a reasonable wish for a new bride I suppose. For a while.
Hibukhibok
10-15-12, 01:02
I have to admire Jackson, he puts up with a lot of st, but still bends over backwards when it comes to these kinds of things. V, play nice.
Anyway, this is the chat / pen pal thread. Shall we try to get back on topic. Some of us use DIA because it's free and has results. I haven't used Cherry blossom in a while, but had some good results there. If anyone finds an Apple Enriquez from Cebu / LapuLapu, let me know. I have pictures. ."bends over backwards?" Should it no be forwards? Oh, no of course, not in this context, sorry.
"she left my room in the wee hours with some of my money"? A very common occurrence to say the least. Oh, you mean while you were still asleep, did you pay her in advance, maybe she did not want to wake you up if you had forgotten, DIA lists her as 18, was she good? Maybe she thought so and somehow "tipped" herself? After all she let herself be photographed in a skimpy costume I suppose, chalk what you lost to her modeling fees.
Funny the number of girls who say that they are living in Lapu-Lapu, I wonder why, the proximity of the airport and the "resorts", the industrial plants and their workers? That's it! She was on an early shift and while she really wanted to greet you with a loving "magandang umaga" (actually more likely "maayong buntag", wasn't she cebuana?) if not a regular "good, morning, sir" with benefits, she had to leave asap. Better luck next time with Peach Rosario.
"bends over backwards?" Should it no be forwards? Oh, no of course, not in this context, sorry.
"she left my room in the wee hours with some of my money"? A very common occurrence to say the least. Oh, you mean while you were still asleep, did you pay her in advance, maybe she did not want to wake you up if you had forgotten, DIA lists her as 18, was she good? Maybe she thought so and somehow "tipped" herself? After all she let herself be photographed in a skimpy costume I suppose, chalk what you lost to her modeling fees.
Funny the number of girls who say that they are living in Lapu-Lapu, I wonder why, the proximity of the airport and the "resorts", the industrial plants and their workers? That's it! She was on an early shift and while she really wanted to greet you with a loving "magandang umaga" (actually more likely "maayong buntag", wasn't she cebuana?) if not a regular "good, morning, sir" with benefits, she had to leave asap. Better luck next time with Peach Rosario.Is there something to learn from this post? I doubt it. I do believe you have had many many "next times" after that one.
Not sure what you mean. Embarress?
Could be Spanish: Embarazo? Embarazo means pregnancy. The wish of many it seems. I haven't embarrassed any young Filipina (that I was not married with) , worried about it, yes, but in the end nothing. Some disappointment maybe, but not on my part.
Could be French: Embrasser? Embrasser means to kiss. Sometimes mistranslated, example from FilipinoCupid: "I want my future husband to kiss me every night before going to sleep", the automatic translation provided by FC gives baiser for to kiss. But baiser while quaint and poetic ordinarilly means to fuck. So FC translates into French the original English sentence in a way that really says "I want my future husband to fuck me every night before going to sleep", a reasonable wish for a new bride I suppose. For a while.For proper translation, look under your stomach and between your legs. That's embraress.
Member #4643
10-18-12, 02:53
I have 10 girls lined up for four days in Manila. I expect that at least a few of them will actually show up at my hotel to have sex with me. Indeed, I am worried about getting rid of each girl to make room for the next one. Fortunately, they are all real beauties (IMHO).
Here is the question. I have read a lot of the Philippine's section on ISG, and think (but I am not certain) that the proper donation for a DIA / pinalove girl is 1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight. I actually do not care if the cost is double that, but I do care that I can give the girl her "present" without a scene. Of course, women are women, and a scene over money is ALWAYS a possibility, even in the most straight forward P4P.
Would anyone care to comment on my target cost for a woman in Manila?
Many thanks F.
P. S. I also pay for taxi to my hotel. I tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. In that way (at least in other countries like the Dom Rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late!
Mongerer69
10-18-12, 03:44
You are right on target with your numbers for an Indy in Manila.
I have 10 girls lined up for four days in Manila. I expect that at least a few of them will actually show up at my hotel to have sex with me. Indeed, I am worried about getting rid of each girl to make room for the next one. Fortunately, they are all real beauties (IMHO).
Here is the question. I have read a lot of the Philippine's section on ISG, and think (but I am not certain) that the proper donation for a DIA / pinalove girl is 1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight. I actually do not care if the cost is double that, but I do care that I can give the girl her "present" without a scene. Of course, women are women, and a scene over money is ALWAYS a possibility, even in the most straight forward P4P.
Would anyone care to comment on my target cost for a woman in Manila?
Many thanks F.
P. S. I also pay for taxi to my hotel. I tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. In that way (at least in other countries like the Dom Rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late!
Screaming Beaver
10-18-12, 03:54
1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight.That amount is plenty. It would be best to slip the money in their purse upon departure time instead of stuffing the cash in their face.
p. s. i also pay for taxi to my hotel. i tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. in that way (at least in other countries like the dom rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late!you obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the philippines not all of these dia (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.
i have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.
in one case, the husband called the guy while his wife was with him in the hotel and threatened to bring the police to the room and charge him with adultery unless he handed over 12, 000 php to the girl. the wife and hubby were working together and obviously knew the legal situation very well. the guy freaked out and complied as he didn't want any hassles and complications, especially when the "wife" said she would call security and accuse him of trying to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her.
a second case had the girl letting the boyfriend (with a big knife) into the room after 10 minutes of her being there and he lost his laptop, camera, cellphone and cash. they were 2 professionals who knew how to avoid cctvs etc and get out of the hotel undetected.
now this is probably only a small percentage of the instances each day where girls meet guys but for forest to have 10 girls trooping in and out in 4 days i see the possibility of several things going wrong and a train wreck resulting if even one of them turns out to be pissed off about something. in ac, the chances of this happening in a monger hotel are much lower i assume.
i suggest meeting any female visitor in a coffee shop to check her (or "him") out before you let them know where you are staying. if you like to live dangerously then go for it, but remember, as i said in my first paragraph, not all these girls are innocent little submissives.
i, personally, never let an unknown woman into my hotel room as i have too much to lose. much better to meet first-time in short-time places like sogo where security is much stricter and there are rarely misunderstandings about why you are there.
You obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the Philippines not all of these DIA (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.
I have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.These may be isolated cases but your advice is sound. My hotel is my home away from home and I like to know who I am inviting in.
Slim
Hello. Am rosejean. Am very nice and honest girl. Not like other girls who are liar.
I do have 2 Filipino boyfriends but none of them have any income, so am searching foreigners for help.
There is no problem if you want to meet me here as long you are able to help me. I will do all your services.
I started work in bar as a bargirl when I was 15 in manila. Then at age 16, I was bargirl in cebu and when I was 17, I was bargirl in pampanga, angeles city.
I hope this year 2012 will be a good year for me.
You see am not a liar girl like others, I just want to survive.
Am sorry that I can`t love foreign man, I only love my Filipino buys.
I hope you all understand me becos sometimes I don`t understand myself.
You can also visit my other profile here, with name; Rosejean!
I want to meet understanding men and very kind. I like excitment so better you have girlfriend or are married.
Age and look are not important to me but you need to love me every minutt and every day we spend together in bed. I hope you are very good hearted to give me expencive gifts etc becos I don`why have anything.
So grab the chance if you want to try a girl who is not like others!
Her other profile is much less explicit, but marriage is mentioned.
In both profiles she wants children.
Actually I like this girl, her frankness and sincerity are most refreshing.
Of course her Filipino BFs are pimping her, poor girl.
A girl like no other indeed.Along the same line, andreagonsalez 28 / F, of Manila.
On her fff profile she writes:
"ill be honest from the start,
I am doing naked cam show to survive, because I am living alone and need 2 support my self.
But I am am also looking for my right man to love me and accept me for who I am and not for who I pretend to.
My Ideal Person: man who is understanding and willing 2 accept me for who I am will be enough,"
Member #4643
10-18-12, 12:59
you obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the philippines not all of these dia (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.
i have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.
in one case, the husband called the guy while his wife was with him in the hotel and threatened to bring the police to the room and charge him with adultery unless he handed over 12, 000 php to the girl. the wife and hubby were working together and obviously knew the legal situation very well. the guy freaked out and complied as he didn't want any hassles and complications, especially when the "wife" said she would call security and accuse him of trying to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her.
a second case had the girl letting the boyfriend (with a big knife) into the room after 10 minutes of her being there and he lost his laptop, camera, cellphone and cash. they were 2 professionals who knew how to avoid cctvs etc and get out of the hotel undetected.
now this is probably only a small percentage of the instances each day where girls meet guys but for forest to have 10 girls trooping in and out in 4 days i see the possibility of several things going wrong and a train wreck resulting if even one of them turns out to be pissed off about something. in ac, the chances of this happening in a monger hotel are much lower i assume.
i suggest meeting any female visitor in a coffee shop to check her (or "him") out before you let them know where you are staying. if you like to live dangerously then go for it, but remember, as i said in my first paragraph, not all these girls are innocent little submissives.
i, personally, never let an unknown woman into my hotel room as i have too much to lose. much better to meet first-time in short-time places like sogo where security is much stricter and there are rarely misunderstandings about why you are there.yes, my strategy is based on experience with semi/"non" pros in other countries.
i usually meet my girls in the bar of my hotel and talk with them for a while before heading to my room. i never have them meet me in my room. it is simply a matter of style, not a precautionary thing, but i like to meet them in public. this approach is absolutely necessary for the occasional case where the girl appears to be **** (the borderline girls are quickly sent away). many times, we go out to eat before getting nasty. all 10 of my potential dates have agreed to have sex, but nevertheless, at least a few are likely to balk at diving into bed like straight-forward prostitutes. some type of gentle reassurance / seduction may be necessary and is part of the fun. of course, i do not really think i will have time for 10 girls; i have ten lined up so i do not waste time calling numbers where no one answers. and, i still have the option of going to burgos if things get slow. my guess is that in 4 nights, i will actually meet 2 or 3 of the girls i have lined up, taken advantage of burgos street massage places for 2-3 blow jobs and will fuck one p4p girl from a burgos street bar.
as for the threat of blackmailing spouses with knives, i am not quite certain how to eliminate it, assuming rk is correct that this is really a concern. even if i take a girl out for dinner and drinks, she can always text her blackmailing spouse my location when we get back to the hotel (i am staying at a 5 star hotel in makati with security, so her husband is not likely to simply show up at my door with a knife). anything is possible i guess, but i take precautions, i always use the safe, i quickly get rid of girls who seem crazy (i have had a few start screaming about sexual imperialism precisely at the time when they should have been putting my dick in their mouths. these experiences were very sobering) , i always ask the girl to register, etc. but, even the best plans can go wrong. nevertheless, i prefer the semi / non- pro to the full time pro, and dia and pinalove are good ways to find such girls.
How do you know Peach Rosario?
[QUOTE=Hibukhibok; 1337426.
BIG SNIP.
"maayong buntag", wasn't she cebuana?) if not a regular "good, morning, sir" with benefits, she had to leave asap. Better luck next time with Peach Rosario.[/QUOTE]
As for the threat of blackmailing spouses with knives, I am not quite certain how to eliminate it, assuming RK is correct that this is really a concern. Even if I take a girl out for dinner and drinks, she can always text her blackmailing spouse my location when we get back to the hotel (I am staying at a 5 star hotel in Makati with security, so her husband is not likely to simply show up at my door with a knife). Anything is possible I guess, but I take precautions, I always use the safe, I quickly get rid of girls who seem crazy (I have had a few start screaming about sexual imperialism precisely at the time when they should have been putting my dick in their mouths. These experiences were very sobering) , I always ask the girl to register, etc. But, even the best plans can go wrong. Nevertheless, I prefer the semi / non- pro to the full time pro, and DIA and pinalove are good ways to find such girls.I am glad you went on to explain your approach more clearly F.
You expanded on your original post. I pictured girls arriving at reception and coming straight up to the room. You obviously vet them a lot more than that.
I also note that you accept that maybe only 2 or 3 of the DIA girls will come through. I think that's about the right percentage.
I agree that my 2 anecdotes about risks were extreme and unlikely to happen on a daily basis but they actually happened and I think it helps to have a jolt of reality now and again about what MIGHT or COULD happen if you drop your guard or are too naive about filipinas. I must add that a MAJORITY of them are harmless and sweet; it's the OTHER ones you have to worry about.
the origins of this exchange indicate that these things happened in manila. is that correct? is it possible to name the hotels? i've had a "problem" in cebu in the last six months and i feel it was organized. nothing as aggressive as what rk suggests, but maybe the situation was more dynamic than my original assesment.
you obviously have tried this before elsewhere but in the philippines not all of these dia (or any other dating site) girls are innocent, lonely souls desperately wanting to meet you for sex and money.
i have heard 2 cases in the past week where a dating site girl was being pimped by her husband / boyfriend who were looking to find ways to maximise their family income.
in one case, the husband called the guy while his wife was with him in the hotel and threatened to bring the police to the room and charge him with adultery unless he handed over 12, 000 php to the girl. the wife and hubby were working together and obviously knew the legal situation very well. the guy freaked out and complied as he didn't want any hassles and complications, especially when the "wife" said she would call security and accuse him of trying to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her.
a second case had the girl letting the boyfriend (with a big knife) into the room after 10 minutes of her being there and he lost his laptop, camera, cellphone and cash. they were 2 professionals who knew how to avoid cctvs etc and get out of the hotel undetected.
now this is probably only a small percentage of the instances each day where girls meet guys but for forest to have 10 girls trooping in and out in 4 days i see the possibility of several things going wrong and a train wreck resulting if even one of them turns out to be pissed off about something. in ac, the chances of this happening in a monger hotel are much lower i assume.
i suggest meeting any female visitor in a coffee shop to check her (or "him") out before you let them know where you are staying. if you like to live dangerously then go for it, but remember, as i said in my first paragraph, not all these girls are innocent little submissives.
i, personally, never let an unknown woman into my hotel room as i have too much to lose. much better to meet first-time in short-time places like sogo where security is much stricter and there are rarely misunderstandings about why you are there.
The origins of this exchange indicate that these things happened in Manila. Is that correct? Is it possible to name the hotels? I've had a "problem" in Cebu in the last six months and I feel it was organized. Nothing as aggressive as what RK suggests, but maybe the situation was more dynamic than my original assesment.X Man; in answer to your query:
The first example (the guy threatening adultery) happened in a hotel in Bacolod but I have forgotten which one. The name of the hotel is irrelevant anyway.
The second one was in Manila with the couple robbing the businessman. It happened in Heritage Hotel in 2005 but it could have happened ANYWHERE because they were professionals and no way could security have prevented it. The woman left first with the goods and the guy followed after having locked the businessman out of his room dressed in his jocks only.
Was your "problem" in Cebu similar to the following?
I had a mate staying in a well-known hotel who had a phone call from reception some 10 minutes after his lady visitor had departed telling him that there were 2 guys in the lobby asking to speak to the guest in Room X. He had an argument with the woman over the size of his tip so he assumed it was in connection with that.
He told reception to refuse them entry and then he hightailed it out a side door and spent the next 3 or 4 hours in a nearby bar until he hoped the coast was clear and then he went back and checked out into another hotel but his trip was ruined because he was always looking over his shoulder.
Some posters have said time and again to make sure the terms of any agreement are very clear before you take anyone to your room. All the girls have some form of "protection" and some of these protectors fight dirty. Foreigners can never win.
Screaming Beaver
10-18-12, 20:04
As for the threat of blackmailing spouses with knives, I am not quite certain how to eliminate it, assuming RK is correct that this is really a concern.After meeting with over a hundred women on various dating sites here in Phils I can tell you this kind of thing has never ever happened to me. These girls are looking to meet a nice guy, spend some time in an air conditioned room and hopefully make a few pesos. The girl is more concerned you may be a Cheap Charlie and feel you owe her nothing after banging her because you spent a few pesos and took her to McDonald's. These are the same clowns who could never get laid in their own country. I'd suggest you stand a bigger chance of getting run over by a Jeepney than getting shaken down by a DIA girl. Have a good time and forget all that stuff you read.
I have read a lot of the Philippine's section on ISG, and think (but I am not certain) that the proper donation for a DIA / pinalove girl is 1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight. I actually do not care if the cost is double that, but I do care that I can give the girl her "present" without a scene. Of course, women are women, and a scene over money is ALWAYS a possibility, even in the most straight forward P4P.There's no set price and I can tell you my compensation packages are usually much lower, still no complaints & they beg me to come again. Now a typical small city DIA sales clerk etc may have around 100 pesos per day, if she has work at all, so your generous donation equals a month's pay. Pay what you want, why not 5000 a day or even ten thousand? In fact I love overpaying guys, it replenishes the talent pool. In today's competitive world where talent is being drawn to callcenters, BPO and other nasty things, we need all the overpayers we can get. Thank you and enjoy your more fun stay in the Phils!
I have 10 girls lined up for four days in Manila. I expect that at least a few of them will actually show up at my hotel to have sex with me. Indeed, I am worried about getting rid of each girl to make room for the next one. Fortunately, they are all real beauties (IMHO).
Here is the question. I have read a lot of the Philippine's section on ISG, and think (but I am not certain) that the proper donation for a DIA / pinalove girl is 1500 for a few hours of pleasure and 2500 for overnight. I actually do not care if the cost is double that, but I do care that I can give the girl her "present" without a scene. Of course, women are women, and a scene over money is ALWAYS a possibility, even in the most straight forward P4P.
Would anyone care to comment on my target cost for a woman in Manila?
Many thanks F.
P. S. I also pay for taxi to my hotel. I tell them to text me or have the front desk call me when they arrive. In that way (at least in other countries like the Dom Rep) , they tend to show up only one or two hours late!The rate you mentioned is for the bargirls. DIA girls are different. They are quite happy with 800-1000 pesos a day. I usually buy them some clothes and gifts. Besides nice dinner and other entertainment like going to a Disco or sightseeing etc costs money.
FreebieFan
10-19-12, 02:43
Had several chats with a girl in past few months. In the hope that I could score a Manila trip sometime soon.
Todays exchange was a classic.
" Hi honey, I'm hoping you can help me"
Me."sure, happy to help if it doesn't involve you asking me to send you money"
" I'm not your friend anymore, you are so kuripot (stingy)"
Got to love the way the ladies equate stupid generosity with friendship. She was deleted.
Fredje1961
10-19-12, 07:34
I usually buy them some clothes and gifts. Besides nice dinner and other entertainment like going to a Disco or sightseeing etc costs money.I usually say "sorry, I didn't bring a gift for you, please don't feel insulted but is it ok if I give you some pocket money?"
They're more than happy to accept my alternative for a proper gift.
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