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MidniteRider
10-19-12, 07:48
Is this what the new middle class is producing?
"Hard working girl who is here only for friends. Becareful of what you say and show respect if you are very old already watch out your mouth and look someone older. If you want a fuck friends then you are not the friend I want.
Now I know where you guys chichatting and competing who get to fuck more girls and better one and even sharing huh! And talking so much shit about my country and the girls here! Your very lucky that here in my country even tho your very fat, ugly old looking guys still can fuck young good looking Filipinas I know in your country girls will just spit on you! So watch out guys not all here are so stupid!
On DIA as angel_*****.
Not exactly encouraging.
Member #4351
10-19-12, 11:52
You didn't mention that her photo shows her holding a whip.
MidniteRider
10-19-12, 12:37
You didn't mention that her photo shows her holding a whip.Yes, that's true. In NYC she'd be a Dom, I didn't think about that, ROFL! Oh, the 2nd 1/2 of the handle rhymes with BEECH, common spelling. Sorry, software.
GregLondon
10-20-12, 21:41
There's no set price and I can tell you my compensation packages are usually much lower, still no complaints & they beg me to come again. Now a typical small city DIA sales clerk etc may have around 100 pesos per day, if she has work at all, so your generous donation equals a month's pay. Pay what you want, why not 5000 a day or even ten thousand? In fact I love overpaying guys, it replenishes the talent pool. In today's competitive world where talent is being drawn to callcenters, BPO and other nasty things, we need all the overpayers we can get. Thank you and enjoy your more fun stay in the Phils!I'm afraid Pete doesn't fully understand Filipina mentality. If a girl gets paid 2500P for a night, her reaction is NOT OK I've made some money I can go for 1000P for the next guy; it's I'm WORTH 2500P therefore I will only go for at least 2000P, moreover she tends to tell all her friends and they say to themselves I'm as cute as her, that's what I should be asking. Of course if you are earning good money and just breezing into town for 5 days R&R and staying at a 5 star hotel, you may not care, but it does make things more awkward for those of us spending months / years in the Phils. Of course you might say: why should I give a sh*t about queering the pitch, but it's generally the long term monger that are helping with advice and tips etc.
As someone said previously the prices you were talking about were really bar / pro prices. Remember a bar girl will generally only get half of this total and moreover will have to stand around being bored at the bar for 6 or 7 hours as part of the work. Especially if you are making the girl feel like a girl friend (bite to eat / swim in the pool etc) I think 1000/1500P should be fine for most non pros even in manila and excessive elsewhere. If you plan to just treat her like a porn star / her and make a feel like a hooker maybe 500P extra.
For most girls a successful DIA encounter, is (a) a guy who shows up and meets as agreed (be) doesn't force her into types of sex she is not ready for (see) treats her with politeness, respect and an easy going sense of humour (the) is not a psycho (e) is clean, hygienic, (f) treats her fairly financially. Of course no girl is going to actually complain about being overpaid, but perhaps surprisingly girls actually do lose respect for guys who are considerably overpaying. (Just in the same way you might lose respect for a naive Japanese client who offers twice the "going rate" for whatever line of work you might be in.
Over the last 2 or 4 years the "price of pussy" in Phils has more or less doubled. Driven up by ever more international flights, Koreans, overspill from Thailand, compared with inflation / general wages increasing say 25% over that period, I don't think this is very healthy for the market. It's as if Arab businessmen were dropping into NYC and offering McDonald's girls US$1000 a night. It starts to make it difficult for any good looking girl not from an elite family, not to give up normal work and focus eventually exclusively on P4P.
Here are two examples of a complete disconnect between profile statement and profile pic:
1. This one complains about the "maniac" and "bad people" on DIA and is threatening to quit. One look at her profile pic might explain the rude and suggestive comments she is getting.
http://www.dateinasia.com/fab_ivy
2. This one loves "going to church to pray." Maybe she is praying for clothing.
http://www.dateinasia.com/lovely_joy17.
I am praying that she moves her hands.
Ivy removed her naked bathtub pic and put up a headshot. I was too slow to post.
Here are two examples of a complete disconnect between profile statement and profile pic:
1. This one complains about the "maniac" and "bad people" on DIA and is threatening to quit. One look at her profile pic might explain the rude and suggestive comments she is getting.
http://www.dateinasia.com/fab_ivy
2. This one loves "going to church to pray." Maybe she is praying for clothing.
http://www.dateinasia.com/lovely_joy17.
I am praying that she moves her hands.
MangoBob68
10-24-12, 04:24
Hello gentleman. I have contributed a few times in various parts of the philippine section. I have been coming to the Philippines on and off since 1985 but my mongering skills are poor but I get by. What I hope some of you professional members would share few of the craziest chat or experiences you had in the Philippines regarding the filipina chica babes.
Example: back in the 80's when cebu had a nepa hut for a terminal. My first time to cebu. I told all my penpals (no computer chatmates then) when I would arrive in cebu.
I asked one girl to meet me at the airport she was there waiting me and as we were walking to the car. I heard a girls voice call out bob bob! I turn and I see another penpal. I was shocked. She took a ferry from her home to cebu to arrive in time to meet me. I had no idea. There I was two penpals looking at me like what the #
Story #2: I get a kick out of "pregnant" girls in the websites trying to find a foreign bf to care them and their unborn baby! Crazy!
Story #3: met a chatmate in cebu: first thing she asked me to do is take her shopping- she wants gold necklace and bracelet. Then she said we go to her province so I can help her parents build their house. I just look at her saying Good bye!
Story #4: I chat this girl and ask her what TOWN she lives in. She writes me back and says PHILIPPINES. I write her and say. Yes I know but what is the name of the town / city you live in? She writes me back saying she lives in (on) mindanao! I write back saying where do you sleep? She writes back. On my floor mat.
I gave up! But I have learned to ask girls what is the nearest airport to their home.
Ok! Maybe these are not so funny and I am sure some of you have some great stories to share . Hope some of you contribute.
I am a relative newby, but reading other reports the idea of of finding the amateur DIA fucklet is appealing.
I would say that 99% of the girls on DIA have something in their profile like "serious relationship","marriage","long term" in their text. Whether or not they mean it is a different matter. In the Manila area there are relatively few girls looking for something casual, but with persistence I have a couple lined up and will give them the call when I get there. I haven't really designed a filtering process except to look at every girl and this is pretty time consuming.
When looking at the candidates from AC, it is much easier as there are a few obvious casual squeezes in the site, and I would expect that most of these ones are semi or full pro.
I go to the Phils on Saturday for 12 days (work and pleasure) so I will be posting my experiences.
Jack Burton
10-25-12, 02:01
Hello gentleman. I have contributed a few times in various parts of the philippine section. I have been coming to the Philippines on and off since 1985 but my mongering skills are poor but I get by. What I hope some of you professional members would share few of the craziest chat or experiences you had in the Philippines regarding the filipina chica babes.I was chatting up this girl on Tagged (19, Angeles, spinner) and asked her directions to the SM. When she said it was near Fields Ave, I told her. Straight-faced. That I had never been on Fields Ave, but was staying near Surla. So she tried to give me directions. I am cruel. And I told her I got as far as Raymond St. Several times, but somehow seemed to keep getting lost.
GregLondon
10-25-12, 04:09
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1340816.
Story #2: I get a kick out of "pregnant" girls in the websites trying to find a foreign bf to care them and their unborn baby! Crazy![/QUOTE]Seems like an odd thing to get a "kick out of" to me. There are many guys out there who find pregnant girls very attractive. I remember helping a girl on Beach Road in Pattaya out by uploading some pics of her on tagged. She had actually been trying to cover up her bump and pretending she was just overweight and used to sit around all day without many customers. But as soon as she had a nice "pregnant" shot on tagged, even though in the text I made it clear she was a beach Road hooker she was swamped with guys who either wanted to knock the "pregnant girl" off their "to do " list, were just into pregnant girls or in some cases just wanted to send her money or supposedly wanted to marry her. I'm not sure any of the marriage guys were serious but she soon got enough leads to generate a good income to help her through the pregnancy.
One of my ex GFs in Phils married a much older English guy. She announced that they were having a baby where the timing would have made it very unlikely that it was his. So far at least it seems to have worked out for all concerned. They have been married and living in England a couple of years now. She has got a job as a beautician, he stays at home and looks after the baby and apparently loves it and is a doting father. Her family in the Phils have been lifted out of poverty by a small piggery he bought and some of the wages she sends home. Instead of living out his last years alone he is married to the hottest girl in the village who is vehement that she has married a really good guy, despite his age and looks and when he dies they will be secure financially as he has a navy pension. The kid gets to grow up in a beautiful part of the English countryside having proper education and every chance in life rather than in a Cebu slum. Sceptics will question how long it will all last but I suspect that as a strategy he has a much better chance of retaining her in this situation than had he married a hot 21 year old Filipina without a baby / pregnancy who I think almost inevitably would have moved on to a younger guy who could give her a family once she was in the UK.
Hello gentleman. I have contributed a few times in various parts of the philippine section. I have been coming to the Philippines on and off since 1985 but my mongering skills are poor but I get by. What I hope some of you professional members would share few of the craziest chat or experiences you had in the Philippines regarding the filipina chica babes.
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Ok! Maybe these are not so funny and I am sure some of you have some great stories to share. Hope some of you contribute.Great idea M Bob.
I was just laughing to myself at some of the funny things I read on the chat forums.
I know English is a 2nd language for filipinas but it is funny the way some sayings and terms are misused because they don't really understand them or use them in the right context.
Examples:
I am looking for my knight and shining armor (this is surprisingly common, He doesn't need to be IN the armor just as long as he is carrying it LOL)
I am a home-bodied woman (she obviously wanted to say "I am a home body" but it came out as something else)
One girl listed her favorite food as a "porkchap" (there's hope for some of you tubby guys)
I will give my 99% everlasting love to the man I love (wonder what happened to the other 1%)
I savor simplicity yet rebel in complexity (did she mean "revel" I wonder?)
Almost every profile throws up a gem. Any more?
Mr Enternational
10-25-12, 20:34
Story #3: met a chatmate in cebu: first thing she asked me to do is take her shopping- she wants gold necklace and bracelet. Then she said we go to her province so I can help her parents build their house. I just look at her saying Good bye!
Ok! Maybe these are not so funny and I am sure some of you have some great stories to share.Very funny story if you actually bought the jewelry.
Hello gentleman. I have contributed a few times in various parts of the philippine section. I have been coming to the Philippines on and off since 1985 but my mongering skills are poor but I get by. What I hope some of you professional members would share few of the craziest chat or experiences you had in the Philippines regarding the filipina chica babes.
Example: back in the 80's when cebu had a nepa hut for a terminal. My first time to cebu. I told all my penpals (no computer chatmates then) when I would arrive in cebu.
I asked one girl to meet me at the airport she was there waiting me and as we were walking to the car. I heard a girls voice call out bob bob! I turn and I see another penpal. I was shocked. She took a ferry from her home to cebu to arrive in time to meet me. I had no idea. There I was two penpals looking at me like what the #
Story #2: I get a kick out of "pregnant" girls in the websites trying to find a foreign bf to care them and their unborn baby! Crazy!
Story #3: met a chatmate in cebu: first thing she asked me to do is take her shopping- she wants gold necklace and bracelet. Then she said we go to her province so I can help her parents build their house. I just look at her saying Good bye!
Story #4: I chat this girl and ask her what TOWN she lives in. She writes me back and says PHILIPPINES. I write her and say. Yes I know but what is the name of the town / city you live in? She writes me back saying she lives in (on) mindanao! I write back saying where do you sleep? She writes back. On my floor mat.
I gave up! But I have learned to ask girls what is the nearest airport to their home.
Ok! Maybe these are not so funny and I am sure some of you have some great stories to share. Hope some of you contribute.IMHO in reality girls are not demanding once they meet you and like you. On chatting they will demand gifts (most often cell phones or cameras) and money help for this and that. Most often it is for her birthday or her mothers be / day or one of her cousins is getting married and she needs to buy a gift.
Once they meet you and stay with you they are quite happy with whatever small things you buy for her or whatever monetary gifts you give. Many of my girls did not count how much money I gave and afterwards send texts thanking me. These girls do not want to be thought of as prostitutes.
It is all part of a game the girls have developed to estimate your willingness to part money. So on chatting once they decide to stay with you (I do not meet them anywhere except in my room, I may pick them up at a meeting point but quickly geta taxi to hotel. I do not waste time with girls promising only) they will start asking for gifts. I have taken gifts to some girls and they really show their appreciation.
There are some blood suckers out there better to avoid them right away.
There are some blood suckers out there better to avoid them right away.I've noticed recently that there are way more girls online asking 2-3k for sex! What's up with this new trend?
I've noticed recently that there are way more girls online asking 2-3k for sex! What's up with this new trend?They probably are getting to many guys expecting free sex
GregLondon
10-26-12, 08:18
I've noticed recently that there are way more girls online asking 2-3k for sex! What's up with this new trend?It's an example of a seller using price discrimination (charging different buyers different prices for essentially the same product) , to attempt to capture as much consumer surplus as possible and maximise revenues.
The most successful Western firms do this in a rather sneaky way. For example Apple deliberately hobble products such as an Ipad by refusing to add an SD card slot then charge $200 extra for an Ipad with 64GB rather than 16GB of RAM which costs them maybe $15 extra.
Similarly if you shop at any souk or bizarre sellers will always have an asking price above what they are willing to sell for those who haggle. Where some of their customers are newbie tourists straight off the plane from the US or Europe, the initial asking price can be 3-4x higher as they know that some people will be crazy enough to pay that price.
Some of the DIA girls have adopted a similar policy. They know that they occasionally will get someone to pay 2-3k and even if they don't the guys paying 1. 5k will think they have a bargain. In my experience 1000P is still an interesting amount of money for most Filipinas. Sadly it's a alot of effort now to get good looking girls to come and play for 500P.
FreebieFan
10-26-12, 11:05
Great idea M Bob.
I was just laughing to myself at some of the funny things I read on the chat forums.
I know English is a 2nd language for filipinas but it is funny the way some sayings and terms are misused because they don't really understand them or use them in the right context.
Examples:
I am looking for my knight and shining armor (this is surprisingly common, He doesn't need to be IN the armor just as long as he is carrying it LOL)
I am a home-bodied woman (she obviously wanted to say "I am a home body" but it came out as something else)
One girl listed her favorite food as a "porkchap" (there's hope for some of you tubby guys)
I will give my 99% everlasting love to the man I love (wonder what happened to the other 1%)
I savor simplicity yet rebel in complexity (did she mean "revel" I wonder?)
Almost every profile throws up a gem. Any more?Yours are all good RK. I've read a few " I will love me forever ". Guess the me and you got mixed up.
Also have read " I am hot in the kitchen but cooler in the bedroom" whereby I think she meant less experienced or maybe she knew she was not so active.
I've also read a few profiles where a girl called herself " Starfish". I had to sweeetly explain why most guys wouldn't find that such an interesting name.
i've noticed recently that there are way more girls online asking 2-3k for sex! what's up with this new trend?one perticular girl in cebu not too pretty, little chubby girl told me 2000 pesos per night. although her first text said 10, 000 pesos. i told her normal overnight guests get 1500 max. she said she is clean, normal girl not a hooker.
anyway i thought i will try her. agreed to pay 2000 and then she started negotiating how many times we have sex. i told her 6 but ultimately she agreed for 3. so i told her to come to my hotel with a i. d or birth certificate because she said she is 18 years old. half hour passed and she texted me saying her birth certificate is miplaced and she assured me hotel security does not care. did not want a **** kid and i shut her off completely and called my other gf to come and stay with me one more night. cost= nothing.
i hate dia girls bargaining and avoid the ones who do not have a i. d. my first girl who i found on dia had birth certificate with her and she just turned 18. she told me she stayed with an american guy from new york for a week six months ago. she admitted she was 17 at that time.
Hibukhibok
10-26-12, 23:34
How do you know Peach Rosario?Pretty well. Actually it's Peach Del Rosario. Look her up next time you are in Mactan.
In my experience 1000P is still an interesting amount of money for most Filipinas. Sadly it's a alot of effort now to get good looking girls to come and play for 500P.So how much are the good looking girls (18-21, pretty, slim body, no baby) asking nowadays? Would you say that the scene is deteriorating? If so, what's the reason for this and when did you start seeing the decline?
So how much are the good looking girls (18-21, pretty, slim body, no baby) asking nowadays? Would you say that the scene is deteriorating? If so, what's the reason for this and when did you start seeing the decline?Scene is alive and well IMHO, partly fueled by noob punters throwing money around. When you see posts here along the lines "I assume the going rate for DIA ST is 4 or 5K?", you realize the ladies sometimes do get it. And tell their sisters. Which is great. And the talent pool will further be replenished thanks to poverty, fertility and world class corruption.
Hibukhibok
10-27-12, 03:54
I was just laughing to myself at some of the funny things I read on the chat forums.
Almost every profile throws up a gem. Any more?This one from FC (I remember) is not bad: "I'm looking someone who will be loving me more than I love him". Her English is not perfect (yet better than most) but she is very clear. Actually she is pretty, appetizingly chubby and the remainder of her profile is reasonable and even touching. Could probably make a pleasant GF or even an excellent wife.
I am an open-minded person which boys like most about me:)Haha music to my ears!
Hello gentleman.
Story #2: I get a kick out of "pregnant" girls in the websites trying to find a foreign bf to care them and their unborn baby! Crazy! .Imagine what it's like living in the Phs. With girls getting pregnant all around you. Even the college students get no good health education, unless they are health professionals. I ask everyone, whether sex partner or just friend, what they do to protect themselves against disease and pregnancy. Hardly one in ten is on the pill or insists on condom use. There's shame in ordering them at the pharmacy. There are false rumors of contraindications. With a regular partner, I offer to supply the pills. Otherwise, I use withdrawal. I'm old enough to get away with that.
If I know a girl to be active with pinoys, I drop her for fear of disease. Friend or partner or ex-partner, when they get pregnant and the guy disappears they go shopping for support. They ask me for help with pre-natal expenses. I refuse, knowing that the next request will be for confinement, and the requests will get bigger and bigger for many years. But refuse the first time, she will find other resources and not bother me again.
You would suppose that only empty-pocket pinoy guys disappear or disclaim responsibility. Expats? I know of know case involving a foreigner living here. We don't want the trouble, we are careful. But I know of three girls knocked up by travellers or tourists they met on DIA. One Austrian, one Palestinian ("Arab from Israel" is the report) , and one Macedonian from Australia. Guess which one takes responsibility and sends money-the Arab gentleman.
I have one ex, a local beauty contest winner. She got recruited to go to AC. Within a few months she had a foreigner supporting her back home to attend school. But she got pregnant by a pinoy and lost that support. Still, she looks so happy with her life. And that's my final point: They want to have babies. If no one marries them at the right time, they will do it anyway.
Soapy Smith
10-28-12, 05:04
With a regular partner, I offer to supply the pills. Otherwise, I use withdrawal. I'm old enough to get away with that.You don't say how old you are, but if you have no future family aspirations, wouldn't it be cheaper and less worrisome in the long run to get a vasectomy? I got one 30 years ago, and it was amazing how much less worried I was during sex. Concerns about pregnancy are now just a distant memory and my spirit during sex now is about as free-wheeling as during the youthful period when my glands usually overpowered my brains.
GregLondon
10-28-12, 07:48
So how much are the good looking girls (18-21, pretty, slim body, no baby) asking nowadays? Would you say that the scene is deteriorating? If so, what's the reason for this and when did you start seeing the decline?I think the A grade 18-21, pretty, slim, no baby DIA girls in Cebu who have some experience on the DIA scene are ASKING 2000P, they are generally very pleased if they can get that so I think will generally be open to negotiations. For most girls a first time encounter with a guy is full of uncertainty. Will he show up, what will he want to do? Wil he pay up etc. Once they know you and you are a known quantity the price should drop. Unless you are a known bad quantity I guess.
Of course the scene has gradually "deteriorated" in terms of price / quality over the 4 or so years I have been coming. Factors include (not necessarily in order of importance) :
1 Call centres: Opening up reasonable employment option for graduate girls.
2 Increased international flights. Every time Cebu Pacific adds a new destination that's more punters from new parts of the world. Just be worried when they start getting direct flights from India.
3 Korean language schools. Large supply of high paying punters.
4 Internet / cam shows. Many girls now earn as much doing cam shows for guys in US / oz / Europe than real life encounters. As netbooks / tablets and broadband become cheaper this will have a much greater impact. Imagine the situation in 5 years time when you will probably have cheap high fidelity web cam capability and almost every girl has broadband conection and ever easier international payment systems.
BrainDrain
10-28-12, 09:19
IMHO in reality girls are not demanding once they meet you and like you. On chatting they will demand gifts (most often cell phones or cameras) and money help for this and that. Most often it is for her birthday or her mothers be / day or one of her cousins is getting married and she needs to buy a gift.
Once they meet you and stay with you they are quite happy with whatever small things you buy for her or whatever monetary gifts you give. Many of my girls did not count how much money I gave and afterwards send texts thanking me. These girls do not want to be thought of as prostitutes.
It is all part of a game the girls have developed to estimate your willingness to part money. So on chatting once they decide to stay with you (I do not meet them anywhere except in my room, I may pick them up at a meeting point but quickly geta taxi to hotel. I do not waste time with girls promising only) they will start asking for gifts. I have taken gifts to some girls and they really show their appreciation.
There are some blood suckers out there better to avoid them right away.I agree with this but hadn't thought of it this way. I guess initially they too are not sure what will happen in the bedroom. If they do find that we are genuine people, treat them fairly and respectfully, then they are happy to stay around for not much money and the pleasure of being treated nicely. They get a nice bed, a nice shower, a couple of meals and get to have some conversation.
I do love the Philippines.
You don't say how old you are, but if you have no future family aspirations, wouldn't it be cheaper and less worrisome in the long run to get a vasectomy? I got one 30 years ago, and it was amazing how much less worried I was during sex. Concerns about pregnancy are now just a distant memory and my spirit during sex now is about as free-wheeling as during the youthful period when my glands usually overpowered my brains.100% agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with every sentiment expressed here by SK.
I had my vasectomy 27 years ago and it was a blissful release from all potential mishaps.
I wish more guys would learn the real facts about vasectomy and spread the word so that there is no misunderstanding about what it is.
I have been asked about each of the following by various people (men & women) :
* it is NOT removal of testes and does NOT mean no more sex. It is a minor snip involving an indiscernible "cut" and it takes just a few minutes and is painless.
* it does NOT diminish one bit any sex drive or libido (as SK says, it actually encourages a more relaxed approach)
* ejaculate (cum) still emerges as before. No woman will know the difference in taste or appearance.
* it allows you to "play along" with the woman who is CERTAIN that you are the father of her recently conceived child because you are the only one that she has been with for the past 3 months (she forgot the Filipino bf or the other guys she met online hehe)
100% agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY I wish more guys would learn the real facts about vasectomy and spread the word so that there is no misunderstanding about what it is.Just got mine done last Friday. There was some discomfort bot I've felt worse at the dentist office, only not in the same place! I have a son and am late-50's so what is the use in making more kids. BTW the doc said it is reversible (after a few years) , I assumed it essentially was not.
Thing is they want me to wait 3 months for a test and the all-clear sign, but I will be back in the PI in 6 weeks. Guess I've got to work the crew overtime to clear out those pipes, and then get a test over there.
I plan to continue to use condoms with any working girls, but steady GFs will be bareback, and with no disclosure of my operation.
I suppose its a bit deceptive. Even if I make no sounds about marrying a girl, you know that is in their mind, and having your white babies. Oh well.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1342262]100% agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY With every sentiment expressed here by SK.
I had my vasectomy 27 years ago and it was a blissful release from all potential mishaps.
Mine was in 1994. It sure takes the worry out of being close! If the girl believes you that there is no potential to make a baby, she is that much more free as well.
Imagine what it's like living in the Phs. With girls getting pregnant all around you. Even the college students get no good health education, unless they are health professionals. I ask everyone, whether sex partner or just friend, what they do to protect themselves against disease and pregnancy. Hardly one in ten is on the pill or insists on condom use. There's shame in ordering them at the pharmacy. There are false rumors of contraindications. With a regular partner, I offer to supply the pills. Otherwise, I use withdrawal. I'm old enough to get away with that.
If I know a girl to be active with pinoys, I drop her for fear of disease. Friend or partner or ex-partner, when they get pregnant and the guy disappears they go shopping for support. They ask me for help with pre-natal expenses. I refuse, knowing that the next request will be for confinement, and the requests will get bigger and bigger for many years. But refuse the first time, she will find other resources and not bother me again.
You would suppose that only empty-pocket pinoy guys disappear or disclaim responsibility. Expats? I know of know case involving a foreigner living here. We don't want the trouble, we are careful. But I know of three girls knocked up by travellers or tourists they met on DIA. One Austrian, one Palestinian ("Arab from Israel" is the report) , and one Macedonian from Australia. Guess which one takes responsibility and sends money-the Arab gentleman.
I have one ex, a local beauty contest winner. She got recruited to go to AC. Within a few months she had a foreigner supporting her back home to attend school. But she got pregnant by a pinoy and lost that support. Still, she looks so happy with her life. And that's my final point: They want to have babies. If no one marries them at the right time, they will do it anyway.Phi girls want to have a child by the time they are 23. They feel it completes their life. Even the family is happy that she has a child.
Now about paternity. Girls are not concerned who fathers the child. Preferable one she loves irrespective of whether support is there or not.
One DIA girl I had stayed with for about a week was already pregnant by another foreigner. She did look little chubby and her boobs full. Did not see telltale bump or I was not really looking. She was horny as hell and we did have sex all the time sometimes 10 times a day. After I left I got a message fromher saying she is sorry she did not let me know that she was pregnant however had a great time with me with subtle hints of support saying nobody is helping her etc. I had no intention of supporting somebody elses child. This time I went I sent her a message to see how she is doing. She had a baby boy and was very happy. She said her family is very supportive and if I want she could stay with me again. I declined saying her baby is only two months old and she better stay with the baby. Ofcourse she asked me if I can help her.
This goes to show irrespective of how she gets pregnant family always are supportive. In case family is not supportive there are dormitories run by catholic charities who take care of health services needed, roof over her head, food for her and the child for a year after birth. As I understand they need to leave the dormitory after 1 year. Not sure what happens after that. I guess they will try to find a job or new bf or work in bars or casas.
Her friends or family help care for the child while she is working. Lots of these girls will readily meet and stay with foreigners because they know they will make money.
One thing is because of poverty or religion people are not judgemental.
Mr Enternational
10-28-12, 20:32
100% agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY With every sentiment expressed here by SK.
I had my vasectomy 27 years ago and it was a blissful release from all potential mishaps. I wish more guys would learn the real facts about vasectomy and spread the word so that there is no misunderstanding about what it is.
It is a minor snip involving an indiscernible "cut" and it takes just a few minutes and is painless.I've been thinking about getting it done in March and doing some research. The part that worries me is the "painless" part. Scares the shit out of me actually. And how much time again do you have to wait between getting it done and your first sexual activity? I know that you have to wait a few months before you start to shoot blanks. I'm 40 and my daughter is 16. No sense in starting over if you ask me. So far that child support has kicked my ass. I wouldn't mind as much if was not to a deadbeat mom such as hers.
Pip Jaeger
10-28-12, 20:34
I was just laughing to myself at some of the funny things I read on the chat forums.
Almost every profile throws up a gem. Any more?While doing a bit of window shopping I came across these:
"I want to meet guy have a good hearth" (how romantic; she likes a nice fireplace)
"hmmm I know men have 2 emotions horny and hungry. So if I see him without an erection, ill make him a sandwich " (how about some pussy on toast?)
"I love traveling but it hurts my ass" (ok honey, then you sit on my face while we travel. LOL)
"don't judge me, 'if you're not a judge" (any takers?)
"I'm not graceful because I belong in a broken family" (huh?)
"just be yourself and make me fall with you" (accident prone? Hope she and her future bf get good insurance)
". Loving kids not horny. Because sometimes you have to that " (if you get this one then please expalin it to me, LOL)
"I am the youngest in the family. =) all of us are boys and girls" (I wonder what planet she's from?)
Maybe there is a bit of a misunderstanding here.
After the op, there is a period of discomfort, because there is some bruising. If I recall, it was maybe a week till it had completely gone. I don't see any reason to wait for more than that week to start back with sexual activity.
As for shooting blanks. Not sure what you mean by this. Your ejaculate consists of sperm and semen. The sperm is from your balls, and this is now stopped. But your prostate still makes semen, so you still ejaculate that. There is no discernable change in volume, consistency, colour, or taste. The girls still love it.
Get it done.
Also, a vasectomy is reversible, the op takes a bit longer, costs about $5, 000, and has you back into the baby business in maybe 2 weeks. I have been investigating a reversal, and my gynocologist says that there is an 80% likelihood of live sperm. And my vasectomy was done in 1984, about the same as RK.
G
I've been thinking about getting it done in March and doing some research. The part that worries me is the "painless" part. Scares the shit out of me actually. And how much time again do you have to wait between getting it done and your first sexual activity? I know that you have to wait a few months before you start to shoot blanks. I'm 40 and my daughter is 16. No sense in starting over if you ask me. So far that child support has kicked my ass. I wouldn't mind as much if was not to a deadbeat mom such as hers.
Hibukhibok
10-29-12, 04:49
Imagine what it's like living in the Phs. With girls getting pregnant all around you. Even the college students get no good health education, unless they are health professionals. I ask everyone, whether sex partner or just friend, what they do to protect themselves against disease and pregnancy.
Hardly one in ten is on the pill or insists on condom use. There's shame in ordering them at the pharmacy. There are false rumors of contraindications. With a regular partner, I offer to supply the pills. Otherwise, I use withdrawal. I'm old enough to get away with that.
And that's my final point: They want to have babies. If no one marries them at the right time, they will do it anyway.This is odd considering that nowadays college students at least certainly have access to the internet uncensored in the Phils. But I assume that messing up with FB or Youtube (or DIA of course!) is far more interesting for them than trying to find things out with Wikipedia. There is certainly no dearth of good birth control and STD advice on the internet.
The pill is really hard to take (requires a lot of self-discipline) and can be expensive, the best solution is an IUD which is available for a moderate fee (clinics) if you are determined and look long enough and of course condoms.
Yes having a baby may seem attractive to some, but illegitimacy is still a heavy burden and a stigma in the Phils for the child as well as the mother, most of the time.
Soapy Smith
10-29-12, 06:02
The part that worries me is the "painless" part. Scares the shit out of me actually. And how much time again do you have to wait between getting it done and your first sexual activity? I know that you have to wait a few months before you start to shoot blanks.As I indicated earlier, mine was 30 years ago. Doctor recommended no work for about two days or so. The issue was to not lift anything that would put a strain on the groin. I went back to work the third day and probably had a little tenderness in the area, but the dental comparison is about right. Three days after the surgery it was probably less pain than from a tooth extraction. In my case I delivered a semen sample after seven days and was told there were no live wigglers in it. I had hoped a nurse would be extracting the sample, but no such luck. Had to do self-service. I don't recall how many days off from sexual activity, but I think it was 10 to 14 days at most.
On the issue of reversal, there may not be guarantees, but a friend had it done in the Philippines a few years ago. He was mid-50s and had married a Filipina about 20 years younger, his second wife. A couple years ago they had a baby girl, so obviously reversal is possible.
. Snip (rather relevant given the topic). .
On the issue of reversal, there may not be guarantees, but a friend had it done in the Philippines a few years ago. He was mid-50s and had married a Filipina about 20 years younger, his second wife. A couple years ago they had a baby girl, so obviously reversal is possible.Thirty years ago reversal was highly unlikely since they actually cauterized (burned) the ends of the vas that had been cut.
In order for the operation to be carried out my (then) wife and I had a rather rigorous counselling meeting to be sure that we really wanted the operation.
If you start talking about reversal with a doctor when you go for a consultation then it is more likely doctor or doctora will think you are rather uncertain about having it.
Anyway, nowadays they are more sophisticated and put a cap over each end of the severed vas, so reversal is simpler and more likely.
My friendly urologist told me that the downside of having easy reversal is that there is a much higher chance of accidental re-connection occurring sometime after the procedure. I personally would not wish to father a child once I was close to 60, no matter how much pressure the woman applied. Part of the joy of parenthood is watching one's child pass through all phases of life, including having kids of his / her own. I would lament missing out on that, but that's just MHO.
Soapy Smith
10-29-12, 06:52
I personally would not wish to father a child once I was close to 60, no matter how much pressure the woman applied. Part of the joy of parenthood is watching one's child pass through all phases of life, including having kids of his / her own. I would lament missing out on that, but that's just MHO.I come at it from the child's experience. Losing a parent is difficult under any circumstances, but losing one while still in childhood is unnecessarily traumatic. I wouldn't necessarily need to see my kids have their own kids, although I've already experienced that, but I'd like to at least get them into their mid-20s so they can start to make lives of their own by the time they lose their dad.
FreebieFan
10-29-12, 08:47
100% agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY With every sentiment expressed here by SK.
I had my vasectomy 27 years ago and it was a blissful release from all potential mishaps.
I wish more guys would learn the real facts about vasectomy and spread the word so that there is no misunderstanding about what it is.
I have been asked about each of the following by various people (men & women) :
* it is NOT removal of testes and does NOT mean no more sex. It is a minor snip involving an indiscernible "cut" and it takes just a few minutes and is painless.
* it does NOT diminish one bit any sex drive or libido (as SK says, it actually encourages a more relaxed approach)
* ejaculate (cum) still emerges as before. No woman will know the difference in taste or appearance.
* it allows you to "play along" with the woman who is CERTAIN that you are the father of her recently conceived child because you are the only one that she has been with for the past 3 months (she forgot the Filipino bf or the other guys she met online hehe) Its about a year since the last time we had this discussion up here.
Now to clarify here, thanks to a about of non life threatening cancer, I don't even have cum.
But since the male anatomy, the function and purpose of sperm is often a total mystery to the Filipinas, I have no end of them asking to have a baby with me. They usually seem to say wow. Great, less mess!
I still function quite normally, and my sex life is exactly the same.
Aint life grand!
Wrote here a couple of months ago my experience haha or non experience with the virgin from Cebu.
Anyway this week I put an end to it all telling her some bs and that we have no future.
Feel sort of sad that probably my last shot at a vigin is gone. But reality is I am an working girl monger and want to continue this lifestyle.
Anyway she replied back to me with almost a novel sized message talking about lost love blah blah blah. Really sickening stuff.
Really never understood her thinking. She had her oppurtunity to convince me to go to the dark side of relationships but she just freaked at the thought of a penis that she was not married to.
Then to follow up her non performance she declares eternal love for me.
I guess what I am saying is leave the serious ones alone. You don't need the stupid soap opera drama.
The vasectomy subject. Never. I like kids. Already have a few and they are all really great.
Just look after them and take interest in their lives. They keep you young.
Wrote here a couple of months ago my experience haha or non experience with the virgin from Cebu.
Anyway this week I put an end to it all telling her some bs and that we have no future.
Feel sort of sad that probably my last shot at a vigin is gone. But reality is I am an working girl monger and want to continue this lifestyle.
The vasectomy subject. Never. I like kids. Already have a few and they are all really great.
Just look after them and take interest in their lives. They keep you young.Why would you try monger a virgin if she is over 18 and a virgin you have to commit to her, marry her or like me have her join a collection of gfs, I had a few virgins living here and plenty of I their first foreign guy and it not worth it unless she is a keeper, the few gfs who where virgins that live with me are keepers and they trust me to stick arround.
I seen other guys marry to get their virginity so move on and not waste her time so she can find a guy who wants her.
Why would you try monger a virgin if she is over 18 and a virgin you have to commit to her, marry her or like me have her join a collection of gfs, I had a few virgins living here and plenty of I their first foreign guy and it not worth it unless she is a keeper, the few gfs who where virgins that live with me are keepers and they trust me to stick arround.
I seen other guys marry to get their virginity so move on and not waste her time so she can find a guy who wants her.Ok firstly she never told me about the virginity until the last moment. I never tried to monger her.
Secondly I do not live in the Philippines and have absolutely no interest in ever doing so.
Therefore any experiences had by expats are very different to what the occasional visitor has.
Our worlds are miles apart.
Nice Guy 99
10-29-12, 13:33
It appears that many guys here have had different vasectomies than I did. I had it done in a US hospital by a well qualified urologist. He numbed me with local anesthesia but when he cut each vas there was a considerable sharp pain the some have likened to getting kicked in the balls by a mule. The recovery was uneventful. However, sex never seemed to feel as good again. Maybe it's psychological, maybe not. I'm not saying sex is not enjoyable, it's just different and not as enjoyable. Would I have it done again? No way.
Looks like my experience of virgins is different to most here.
I have had more than my share of virgins over the years. But the more recent cases have been where the virgin came to me to share her hymen. No insistence on commitment. They just wanted someone who is thoughtful and caring to give them their first experience of making love.
It was very tender, and very GFE. But that was all that they wanted. No strings.
G
Why would you try monger a virgin if she is over 18 and a virgin you have to commit to her, marry her or like me have her join a collection of gfs, I had a few virgins living here and plenty of I their first foreign guy and it not worth it unless she is a keeper, the few gfs who where virgins that live with me are keepers and they trust me to stick arround.
I seen other guys marry to get their virginity so move on and not waste her time so she can find a guy who wants her.
Hibukhibok
10-29-12, 15:03
Now to clarify here, thanks to a about of non life threatening cancer, I don't even have cum.
But since the male anatomy, the function and purpose of sperm is often a total mystery to the Filipinas, I have no end of them asking to have a baby with me. They usually seem to say wow. Great, less mess!
I still function quite normally, and my sex life is exactly the same.
Aint life grand!You mean you had prostate cancer (no cum)? Radical prostatectomy? May I ask your age?
The Filipinas I have known certainly were aware of the human reproductive process and not particularly eager to have an out of wedlock child (and above all neither was I). But (big difference) they were well educated and in their mid twenties. Of course they wanted to get married but in the end much to my regret I could marry only one.
It appears that many guys here have had different vasectomies than I did. I had it done in a US hospital by a well qualified urologist. He numbed me with local anesthesia but when he cut each vas there was a considerable sharp pain the some have likened to getting kicked in the balls by a mule. The recovery was uneventful. However, sex never seemed to feel as good again. Maybe it's psychological, maybe not. I'm not saying sex is not enjoyable, it's just different and not as enjoyable. Would I have it done again? No way.Sounds like he stuffed up, I never felt no pain with mine, http://www.oprah.com/health/Dr-Oz-Answers-Mens-Health-Questions/6
Does a vasectomy result in a loss of testosterone and energy, or any other negative side effects?
Vasectomies are incredibly safe and actually don't block ejaculation at all and won't cause impotence, Dr. Oz says. Instead, the procedure prevents your body from adding sperm to your semen, making it sterile.
The only danger, Dr. Oz says, is "sometimes you get a little soreness from the vasectomy because they go up through the scrotum to cut it. However, you've got to make sure your sperm count has dropped after the operation before resuming relations."
It appears that many guys here have had different vasectomies than I did. I had it done in a US hospital by a well qualified urologist. He numbed me with local anesthesia but when he cut each vas there was a considerable sharp pain the some have likened to getting kicked in the balls by a mule. The recovery was uneventful. However, sex never seemed to feel as good again. Maybe it's psychological, maybe not. I'm not saying sex is not enjoyable, it's just different and not as enjoyable. Would I have it done again? No way.As Frenzy said. Your doctor stuffed up. Sounds like he is well-qualified but unskilled.
No pain whatsoever for me and I walked home around 30 minutes after the procedure.
I have seen them being done in mobile clinics on the roadside in India and the men go back to work afterwards.
Your point about sex being less enjoyable MUST be in your head because there is no physiological reason why it shouldn't be the same or better, unless your friendly urologist cut something else that he shouldn't have done while he was "in" there?
FreebieFan
10-30-12, 06:09
You mean you had prostate cancer (no cum)? Radical prostatectomy? May I ask your age? .Yep, that was me. Had the op when I was late 40s. A few years olderr but certainly not any wiser now.
FreebieFan
10-30-12, 06:15
While doing a bit of window shopping I came across these:
"I want to meet guy have a good hearth" (how romantic; she likes a nice fireplace)
"hmmm I know men have 2 emotions horny and hungry. So if I see him without an erection, ill make him a sandwich " (how about some pussy on toast?)
"I love traveling but it hurts my ass" (ok honey, then you sit on my face while we travel. LOL)
"don't judge me, 'if you're not a judge" (any takers?)
"I'm not graceful because I belong in a broken family" (huh?)
"just be yourself and make me fall with you" (accident prone? Hope she and her future bf get good insurance)
". Loving kids not horny. Because sometimes you have to that " (if you get this one then please expalin it to me, LOL)
"I am the youngest in the family. =) all of us are boys and girls" (I wonder what planet she's from?) Found a new one today. From GoodgirlRose, she says.
"I want to meet a Male
With age from 25 to 80
And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage and Other.
I am looking for the good person that I know I can't trust.
Well we know that that applies to about all of us! LOL
Got this in my email inbox:
I'm writing this with tears in my eyes. My family and I came down to Scotland, United Kingdom for a short vacation unfortunately we got mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed. All cash, Credit card and cell phone were stolen off us but luckily for us. We still have our passports with us.
We've been to the embassy and the Police but they're not helping issues at all. They told us to wait for 2-3 weeks before anything can be done and our flight leaves in few hrs time but we're having problems Sorting out our hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we've have our bills settle and also the hotel wouldn't accept any third party payment such as (Credit card) because there credit card machine is faulty at the moment. Wondering if you can Loan us some cash we promise to refund it once we get back. Let me know if you can help us out so I can give you the needed information to wired the money to us here in Scotland, United Kingdom. It has been so embarrassing for me and my Family please help us out of this terrible situation.
We're freaked out at the moment. I need your urgent assistance.
Thanks,
Althea.This from a CB contact, purportedly in GENSAN, actually came on cam once and is very pretty. Should I make a counter-offer?
Here's a good one from a cute 19yr old in Cebu on DIA.
I just want to be straight to everybody whom thinking they can find a girl.
Using their FUCKIN' money. That's quite pretty ridiculous and stupid thought<<
I'm glad she straightened THAT out for me. But if I can't use my "fkn money" for fkn, what can I use it for?
X
Soapy Smith
10-31-12, 05:38
Got this in my email inbox:
This from a CB contact, purportedly in GENSAN, actually came on cam once and is very pretty. Should I make a counter-offer?I know well of a situation almost identical to this that involved an older Filipina supposedly stranded in London and in need of money to get home to the Philippines. Except the woman really was in Manila all the time and had no idea the email had been sent out until friends contacted her asking about it. Somebody had hacked into her email and sent this message out to everybody in her email address book. I was in her email address book, and I admit I was concerned for her when I first got the email. But I suspected something was amiss since she works for a fairly well-to-do family, and she would have contacted them directly rather than send out a desperate email like this. Are these scams originating in the Philippines? Russia? Nigeria? Who knows. But I too got my email hacked about a year ago while I was in the Phils. Fortunately the hackers only sent weird, and sometimes obscene, emails out under my name to everybody in my address book. I had spent time using the email in the ground floor restaurant of my hotel. Their WiFi was not security-protected, and the side wall of the restaurant near where I was sitting was shared with an internet cafe. I can't prove that's how the hacking occurred, but obviously there are lots of bored, unemployed, and computer savvy young men in the Philippines.
Got this in my email inbox:
This from a CB contact, purportedly in GENSAN, actually came on cam once and is very pretty. Should I make a counter-offer?I get an average of one of these every few weeks. Once I received one from a colleague in my office and I called him over to show him and we had a good laugh about it.
These are all scams. Virtually 100% of any requests for assistance that you get in an email are scams.
Golden rule: If a person knows you well enough to ask you for money in an emergency then they will also have your telephone number and will call you direct.
Soapy Smith
10-31-12, 06:23
I get an average of one of these every few weeks.So maybe this is a distinctively Philippine scam. In the states we get many more of the Nigerian model: the person has just come into a pile of money but is restricted from getting it out of the country and needs your help (I. E, financial identity) , for which he will gladly share a very big portion of the booty. I get several of those every week.
. SNIP. I can't prove that's how the hacking occurred, but obviously there are lots of bored, unemployed, and computer savvy young men in the Philippines.I know at first hand of a group of guys from a well-known University who amused themselves by going into mall coffee shops and seeing who can hack into other computer users in the same coffee shop (and sometimes mall). They have the requisite hacker's tools, and can easily do it using the internal wifi setup in the coffee shop.
Fortunately, these guys were not scammers or dishonest and seeking access to steal or embarrass. It was just a game for them.
However, as SK notes, using open wifi is fraught with danger if there happens to be any malevolent hackers around.
Most Internet cafe have key loggers so people dumb enough to not change password or use a temp email have this problem when they visit here, guys you can make email accounts for free and setup as if they are your other account use "forward and reply as "
Still change your password when you can, I get these emails from guys I know who have used Internet cafe here
I know at first hand of a group of guys from a well-known University who amused themselves by going into mall coffee shops and seeing who can hack into other computer users in the same coffee shop (and sometimes mall). They have the requisite hacker's tools, and can easily do it using the internal wifi setup in the coffee shop.
Fortunately, these guys were not scammers or dishonest and seeking access to steal or embarrass. It was just a game for them.
However, as SK notes, using open wifi is fraught with danger if there happens to be any malevolent hackers around.China is worse
FreebieFan
10-31-12, 10:05
China is worseYou are right F3. Greetings from China. I am reading your emails as we speak. PS the passwords of one of your GF's is really lame and was easy to get to. I mean whoever uses 123456 anymore. Hahah
I am intrigued by the number of women on dating sites who trumpet to the world that "I have found my soul mate. Thank you DIA (or whatever site it is)" .
They nevertheless continue with their profile, are still online and, presumably, searching.
I challenged one of these women on DIA recently, asking her why she was still online on DIA when she has already found her man (according to her profile).
Her rather indignant response was that "I have many friends here and I want to stay in touch with them".
I can only deduce that she is running on a promise from some guy, hasn't yet met him and so she is covering her options in case he doesn't show up or come through with his promise. It is all rather silly.
I am intrigued by the number of women on dating sites who trumpet to the world that "I have found my soul mate. Thank you DIA (or whatever site it is)".
They nevertheless continue with their profile, are still online and, presumably, searching.
I challenged one of these women on DIA recently, asking her why she was still online on DIA when she has already found her man (according to her profile).
Her rather indignant response was that "I have many friends here and I want to stay in touch with them".
I can only deduce that she is running on a promise from some guy, hasn't yet met him and so she is covering her options in case he doesn't show up or come through with his promise. It is all rather silly.Isn't the definition of "soul mate" man w / money? Perhaps she has a more expansive understanding to include other man with other money.
I am intrigued by the number of women on dating sites who trumpet to the world that "I have found my soul mate. Thank you DIA (or whatever site it is)".
They nevertheless continue with their profile, are still online and, presumably, searching.
I challenged one of these women on DIA recently, asking her why she was still online on DIA when she has already found her man (according to her profile).
Her rather indignant response was that "I have many friends here and I want to stay in touch with them".
I can only deduce that she is running on a promise from some guy, hasn't yet met him and so she is covering her options in case he doesn't show up or come through with his promise. It is all rather silly.It is the psyche of these women. Moment somebody is nice to them they think they are in love. I have chatted with many women who are in love with somebody they never met only chatting. Ofcourse they just want to hold on to any rope or thread to get out of their poverty. Usually all these things end with the guy never making a trip over there and even if he meets her he will try to meet as many girls as possible without them knowing.
These girls meet very few serious minded guys who want to hold on to one gf or marry. However the girls keep on hoping for a knight in shining armor to come and rescue them. They are also used to local Phi guys fucking them and dumping them. So they think foreign guys are nicer and hopefully they will make them fall in love.
Reality is quite diffrent. Even if a foreign guy wants to marry he has a choice of score of girls to choose from. Pretty soon foreign guy realises that why settle down with one when there is a smorgasboard of choices.
For the purpose of this forum all of us mongers want to taste as much honey as possible and in my case I am always looking for fresh ones irrespective of how many beatifull girls have satisfied me every which way.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1343424]I am intrigued by the number of women on dating sites who trumpet to the world that "I have found my soul mate. Thank you DIA (or whatever site it is)".
They nevertheless continue with their profile, are still online and, presumably, searching.
It means have several boyfriends (soul mates) , but not sure which one to give this compliment to yet, so hoping they will all think its them alone. But just in case carry on searching
Radical Guy
10-31-12, 20:13
Reality is quite diffrent. Even if a foreign guy wants to marry he has a choice of score of girls to choose from. Pretty soon foreign guy realises that why settle down with one when there is a smorgasboard of choices.
For the purpose of this forum all of us mongers want to taste as much honey as possible and in my case I am always looking for fresh ones irrespective of how many beatifull girls have satisfied me every which way.Speaking as a former monger, I can relate to the joy of having a "smorgasbord of choices." I've definitely had my fill of beautiful 18-19 year olds during my many trips to the Philippines. If I had been one of those lucky bastards able to live there full time, I may have been content to have a honey waiting for me at different places.
However, I easily tire of sex-only encounters, as many men do, and need someone to be a companion as well as a lover. My current wife was one of those hot encounters in the provinces, but she truly enchanted me and swept me off my feet. Now, eight years later, although I am almost 30 years older than my wife, our marriage is stronger than ever. She is a US citizen, has a good job as a federal employee, and as slim and hot as she ever was, yet for some reason (certainly not financial) remains devoted to me as her husband.
I must admit, I sometimes long for past times of banging young nubile hotties two at a time, and lurk this forum as a way to sort of relive the good old days, but I wouldn't give up what I have for anything in the world. This is certainly not a criticism of anyone who enjoys mongering, with its many advantages, but it is simply a fact that there are some ladies out there who are genuine and sincere.
RG
I am intrigued by the number of women on dating sites who trumpet to the world that "I have found my soul mate. Thank you DIA (or whatever site it is)".
They nevertheless continue with their profile, are still online and, presumably, searching.I am intrigued as well but over time have realized that what girls write in their profiles have little or no meaning. I think many of us on this forum have entertained girls who are already in a relationship with someone else. Whether it is gf / bf or de facto, and also whether that relationship involves a pinoy man or foreigner.
I freely admit that I have met and fucked girls who are already in relationships.
Last night I got messaged in a dating site by a hottie in Davao willing to meet me who, according to her fb page is engaged to a pinoy. Another girl in Makati also messaged me and according to her fb status is in a relationship with xxxxxxxxx.
At the end of the day as long as the lady is willing to spread her legs for me who am I to judge her?
My personal take on this is that the girls are covering all options in the eventuality that their bf does not show. I have chatted to a girl who has been a relationship (according to her) with a guy in Canada for 3 years. They have never met in person as he has not yet visited the phils, but, she 'loves him'.
I have also noticed that some girls put their profile to invisible on DIA so you cannot message them but periodically make their profiles visible again. I can only deduce that these girls are already in a “serious relationship” but are up for playing away.
BrainDrain
10-31-12, 23:10
Last night I got messaged in a dating site by a hottie in Davao willing to meet me who, according to her fb page is engaged to a pinoy. Another girl in Makati also messaged me and according to her fb status is in a relationship with xxxxxxxxx.The DIA profile messages are crap. But I do notice that the FB profiles do tend to be far more honest.
I have been doing some research work on an upcoming trip into Hong Kong. I notice that some of the girls there are far more organised. They have Fb profiles specific for their working lives!
Another oddity I sometimes come across: I have success with a DIA gal, we keep in touch after I leave the Philippines, and then she informs me that there is another guy she is "thinking" about meeting. I guess she is playing the jealousy card, hoping I will promise to meet her again and beg her not to meet the guy. Or maybe she's just showing me how "honest" she is. Hmmmm.
I respond with,"have fun".
I am intrigued by the number of women on dating sites who trumpet to the world that "I have found my soul mate. Thank you DIA (or whatever site it is)" . SNIP .
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Last night I got messaged in a dating site by a hottie in Davao willing to meet me who, according to her fb page is engaged to a pinoy. Another girl in Makati also messaged me and according to her fb status is in a relationship with xxxxxxxxx.
At the end of the day as long as the lady is willing to spread her legs for me who am I to judge her?Be careful with these girls who you discover through FB or other avenues have either fiances, bfs etc.
One scenario has the guy and the girl collaborating to find a way to scam you. I posted about a couple of examples of this a few weeks ago.
A second and more dangerous scenario is when the girl thinks her bf doesn't know about her sideline activities. They can be very naive about their FB pages and don't often realise who else is reading their pages: some guys also regularly check their gfs cell phones.
Last year I sent a text to a friend while I was in the taxi from the airport after arriving in Cebu asking if we could meet up later in the day. I received a reply from a guy who said he was her husband telling me that if I texted her again he would kill me. She had never told me anything about another guy.
I was so relieved I hadn't put in my text where we might meet later in the day or even where I was staying. Thankfully he had no idea who i was or where i was staying.
Don't ever say too much about yourself, where you are staying etc until you are sure that it is her alone who is reading your messages.
Good advice. The less they know, the better. No need to be so paranoid as to not enjoy yourself, but ALWAYS good to take precautions and not be naive.
Be careful with these girls who you discover through FB or other avenues have either fiances, bfs etc.
One scenario has the guy and the girl collaborating to find a way to scam you. I posted about a couple of examples of this a few weeks ago.
A second and more dangerous scenario is when the girl thinks her bf doesn't know about her sideline activities. They can be very naive about their FB pages and don't often realise who else is reading their pages: some guys also regularly check their gfs cell phones.
Last year I sent a text to a friend while I was in the taxi from the airport after arriving in Cebu asking if we could meet up later in the day. I received a reply from a guy who said he was her husband telling me that if I texted her again he would kill me. She had never told me anything about another guy.
I was so relieved I hadn't put in my text where we might meet later in the day or even where I was staying. Thankfully he had no idea who I was or where I was staying.
Don't ever say too much about yourself, where you are staying etc until you are sure that it is her alone who is reading your messages.
Be careful with these girls who you discover through FB or other avenues have either fiances, bfs etc.
One scenario has the guy and the girl collaborating to find a way to scam you. I posted about a couple of examples of this a few weeks ago.
A second and more dangerous scenario is when the girl thinks her bf doesn't know about her sideline activities. They can be very naive about their FB pages and don't often realise who else is reading their pages: some guys also regularly check their gfs cell phones.
Last year I sent a text to a friend while I was in the taxi from the airport after arriving in Cebu asking if we could meet up later in the day. I received a reply from a guy who said he was her husband telling me that if I texted her again he would kill me. She had never told me anything about another guy.
I was so relieved I hadn't put in my text where we might meet later in the day or even where I was staying. Thankfully he had no idea who I was or where I was staying.
Don't ever say too much about yourself, where you are staying etc until you are sure that it is her alone who is reading your messages.I agree with this 100% I tell girls I will never discuss what we do, where I am etc over text or phone or FB, I tell to only talk to me when we meet. I often always start with just a "hey " message, I always treat phone , FB as the boyfriend is reading over her shoulder. I only time I ever had someone threaten to kill me, was over his gf saying she had sex with me,
Hi,
Needed some advise about one Philu lady I have made friend recently.
After first visit which resulted directly into sex, she had started giving hints for money every time we met and had sex and I had paid every time. I believe that men has to pay for sex either directly or indirectly! It could be under various reasons such as children need money, school fees, mother not well etc. But now she tells me that her mother has died! And she needs to send money so that her burial could take place properly. She says that burial in Philipines is very expensive and they have to keep body for 4-7 days and treat guest who come to visit them. Is this true? Or she is trying to take a big amount out of me? After she broke the news of death of her mother, I have not met her personally so don't know how she looks in real. She tells me she is borrowing the money but I know that once I pay it will not come back in cash. I will have to recover in other ways! I am not sure also how come any one could be so good in acting that they can try to scam off the money under the pretext of death of a mother! Your comments based on rich Philipino experience will be very helpful.
Cheers.
GregLondon
11-01-12, 17:57
Hi,
Needed some advise about one Philu lady I have made friend recently.
After first visit which resulted directly into sex, she had started giving hints for money every time we met and had sex and I had paid every time. I believe that men has to pay for sex either directly or indirectly! It could be under various reasons such as children need money, school fees, mother not well etc. But now she tells me that her mother has died! And she needs to send money so that her burial could take place properly. She says that burial in Philipines is very expensive and they have to keep body for 4-7 days and treat guest who come to visit them. Is this true? Or she is trying to take a big amount out of me? After she broke the news of death of her mother, I have not met her personally so don't know how she looks in real. She tells me she is borrowing the money but I know that once I pay it will not come back in cash. I will have to recover in other ways! I am not sure also how come any one could be so good in acting that they can try to scam off the money under the pretext of death of a mother! Your comments based on rich Philipino experience will be very helpful.
Cheers.I tell the girls I am happy to gve then some motest allowance when they are with me and having fun together but don't sent money an advance or inresropsect.
Hi,
Needed some advise about one Philu lady I have made friend recently.
After first visit which resulted directly into sex, she had started giving hints for money every time we met and had sex and I had paid every time. I believe that men has to pay for sex either directly or indirectly! It could be under various reasons such as children need money, school fees, mother not well etc. But now she tells me that her mother has died! And she needs to send money so that her burial could take place properly. She says that burial in Philipines is very expensive and they have to keep body for 4-7 days and treat guest who come to visit them. Is this true? Or she is trying to take a big amount out of me? After she broke the news of death of her mother, I have not met her personally so don't know how she looks in real. She tells me she is borrowing the money but I know that once I pay it will not come back in cash. I will have to recover in other ways! I am not sure also how come any one could be so good in acting that they can try to scam off the money under the pretext of death of a mother! Your comments based on rich Philipino experience will be very helpful.
Cheers.Run, only pay for services, if you send cash now expect no service, she will move on to the next guy who she does not owe.
There are plenty of women here just pay them when you are here. They have plenty of family to ask for money before they have to ask you so move on to the next girl.
Asian Rain
11-01-12, 18:19
Needed some advise about one Philu lady I have made friend recently.
After first visit which resulted directly into sex, she had started giving hints for money every time we met and had sex and I had paid every time. I believe that men has to pay for sex either directly or indirectly! It could be under various reasons such as children need money, school fees, mother not well etc. But now she tells me that her mother has died! And she needs to send money so that her burial could take place properly.There is no way of telling if a girl's story about anything is true or not. Nobody here can tell you if it is bullshit or not. So use your judgment. If you are serious, just ask to see the body. Hehe.
One thing I can tell you from experience: if you pay out for this crisis, there will very likely be another crisis which will follow shortly. One thing Filipinas excel is crisis. AR
There is no way of telling if a girl's story about anything is true or not. Nobody here can tell you if it is bullshit or not. So use your judgment. If you are serious, just ask to see the body. Hehe.
One thing I can tell you from experience: if you pay out for this crisis, there will very likely be another crisis which will follow shortly. One thing Filipinas excel is crisis. ARHi AR and Frenzy,
Thanks for your quick feedback. You both are right in thing (which even I felt). Pinay ladies are expert in crisis. They keep coming one by one. !
Points noted. Anymore comments from the stalwarts of pinay ladies would be most well come.
Cheers.
Mr Enternational
11-01-12, 19:58
Needed some advise about one Philu lady I have made friend recently.
After first visit which resulted directly into sex, she had started giving hints for money every time we met and had sex and I had paid every time. I believe that men has to pay for sex either directly or indirectly! It could be under various reasons such as children need money, school fees, mother not well etc. But now she tells me that her mother has died! And she needs to send money so that her burial could take place properly.Funny you should ask. Why would you even remotely consider that as being your responsibility or duty? It is reasonable to assume that these people have family as well as friends whom they have known their entire lives, but somehow some outsider gets hit up to pay for the funeral of a person he has not even met. Why? Because he fucked a chick a couple of times and gave her money for it? You think that if you did not send money then the body would be left rotting? Get real dude.
if you pay out for this crisis, there will very likely be another crisis which will follow shortly. .ARMore than likely, dear old mother will die again, thus resulting in another funeral to pay for.
Radical Guy
11-01-12, 22:39
More than likely, dear old mother will die again, thus resulting in another funeral to pay for.Back in my mongering days, one of my fucklets emailed me, requesting some money to pay for her mom's hospital bill, which she said was 10, 000 pesos. Because I had such a great time with her, I offered that she could give me the direct number for the hospital's billing office, and I would wire the money directly to them. I even called the hospital that she mentioned (in Davao) and verified that, in general, they can accept wired payments.
I never heard from my fucklet again. LOL.
RG
Member #4351
11-02-12, 00:24
One I had met one time got in touch a week later to tell me she had been diagnosed with leukemia and asked if I would give her a month's baby milk money. I couldn't believe that a girl would lie about cancer so I showed the message to a different friend who was surprised that I saw anything strange in lying about having a fatal disease.
FreebieFan
11-02-12, 01:49
Hi AR and Frenzy,
Thanks for your quick feedback. You both are right in thing (which even I felt). Pinay ladies are expert in crisis. They keep coming one by one. !
Points noted. Anymore comments from the stalwarts of pinay ladies would be most well come.
Cheers.Ignore the requests for money. Weve all gone thru that compassionate phase of thinking we were helping a girl in need as she had doe eyes and was naked. Once out on the other side, you quickly realise they all teach each other the best ways to try to get a guy to pay. Ignore the requests. If they were real they wil always find a way to solve the problem. If they like you, they will still see you again. It really is that simple.
FreebieFan
11-02-12, 01:51
There is no way of telling if a girl's story about anything is true or not. Nobody here can tell you if it is bullshit or not. So use your judgment. If you are serious, just ask to see the body. Hehe.
One thing I can tell you from experience: if you pay out for this crisis, there will very likely be another crisis which will follow shortly. One thing Filipinas excel is crisis. ARTheres even a league table of the most "crisis ridden countries" and Philippines came third. Bronze medal isn't so bad. But I think that the definition of crisis that was measured was of the earthquake, flood, landslide type. LOL
Hi, .
After first visit which resulted directly into sex, /
After she broke the news of death of her mother, I have not met her personally so don't know how she looks in real.
Cheers.Don't understand this. If you had sex with her, how comes that "after" you don't know how she looks in real?
Lost in translation?
Mr Enternational
11-02-12, 03:27
Don't understand this. If you had sex with her, how comes that "after" you don't know how she looks in real?
Lost in translation?He had sex with the girl. He has never met / seen the mother who supposedly just died.
He had sex with the girl. He has never met / seen the mother who supposedly just died.Lost in transaction, then. That was my thought but even if I am not English mother tongue, it seemed not well expressed (in English)
Case closed!
FreebieFan
11-02-12, 08:01
Young lady in Manila on DIA with name Yoemie03 has a photo of herself thats branded Irishit. Does she have a problem with the limerick lads? Or is her name Irish and she's involved in technology?
Don't understand this. If you had sex with her, how comes that "after" you don't know how she looks in real?
Lost in translation?Dear B.
Sorry for not making it very clear. What I meant was that after she came up with the news that her mother has died and she would like to borrow some money to be used for funeral, and she told me this over the phone and ym, I have not seen her (the philu lady) in person. If I see her in person, perhaps I may have an idea if she is lieing or not. Her mother supposedly died in Philippines.
I thank each and every monger for their feedback which clearly tells me NOT to fall into this drama and pay the money.
Thanks again and cheers.
There is no way of telling if a girl's story about anything is true or not. Nobody here can tell you if it is bullshit or not. So use your judgment. If you are serious, just ask to see the body. Hehe.
One thing I can tell you from experience: if you pay out for this crisis, there will very likely be another crisis which will follow shortly. One thing Filipinas excel is crisis. ARRule of thumb in helping girls by sending money is,
1. If you had a good time with her and want to keep her as a gf send some money.
2. If you feel like donating. Not because she demands it.
3. If you can spare $50 and hoping that will help you score with a georgious girl of your dreams. No guarantees however.
I have supported few girls over the years. None scammed me. Only send money after I met them, had sex with them, decided to keep the girl. I have helped girls through college. Ofcourse once you start giving money.
There were demands more more money for this and that, That is when I put my foot down and say her allowance is fixed. They quickly back down. I guess they figured if they start demanding even the allowance will stop.
I have only sent money what I can afford and chalked it up on charity. Fortunately there are plenty of willing young girls in Phi to satisfy my needs even if the girl I planned to stay with dropped out for any reason.
Young lady in Manila on DIA with name Yoemie03 has a photo of herself thats branded Irishit. Does she have a problem with the limerick lads? Or is her name Irish and she's involved in technology?It's actually Irishii mate. No T.
But your joke was good.
Real cutey on DIA. But dig a little and you come up with this.
This is kind of confusing. There were demands "for more money", and you had to "put your foot down". But then you say "none scammed me". Do you mean to say that none were successful at scamming you?
I'm not going to comment on the other contradiction: "charity"/"keep the girl"
Nevertheless, lets hope that Sammon keeps sending as much money as possible. The Philippines has been doing pretty well lately, but there is still a need for good people like Sammon to help out poor and attractive young women. LOL.
Rule of thumb in helping girls by sending money is,
1. If you had a good time with her and want to keep her as a gf send some money.
2. If you feel like donating. Not because she demands it.
3. If you can spare $50 and hoping that will help you score with a georgious girl of your dreams. No guarantees however.
I have supported few girls over the years. None scammed me. Only send money after I met them, had sex with them, decided to keep the girl. I have helped girls through college. Ofcourse once you start giving money.
There were demands more more money for this and that, That is when I put my foot down and say her allowance is fixed. They quickly back down. I guess they figured if they start demanding even the allowance will stop.
I have only sent money what I can afford and chalked it up on charity. Fortunately there are plenty of willing young girls in Phi to satisfy my needs even if the girl I planned to stay with dropped out for any reason.
This is kind of confusing. There were demands "for more money", and you had to "put your foot down". But then you say "none scammed me". Do you mean to say that none were successful at scamming you?
I'm not going to comment on the other contradiction: "charity"/"keep the girl"
Nevertheless, lets hope that Sammon keeps sending as much money as possible. The Philippines has been doing pretty well lately, but there is still a need for good people like Sammon to help out poor and attractive young women. LOL." None scammed me" in the sense that nobody forced me to send money. I did send money sometimes on my own will depending on the girl and also if I plan to see her on my next visit. Sometimes I tell them I do not send money and will give money when I meet them next time.
I am sure all mongers in this forum have sent money once in a while to their favourite girl.
Mr Enternational
11-03-12, 16:56
This is kind of confusing. There were demands "for more money", and you had to "put your foot down". But then you say "none scammed me". Do you mean to say that none were successful at scamming you?
I'm not going to comment on the other contradiction: "charity"/"keep the girl"
Nevertheless, lets hope that Sammon keeps sending as much money as possible. The Philippines has been doing pretty well lately, but there is still a need for good people like Sammon to help out poor and attractive young women. LOL.Looks like in this case he is using "scammed" in the sense that he has never given money to a girl who he has not fucked at least one time before giving her money (amount notwithstanding).
I am sure all mongers in this forum have sent money once in a while to their favourite girl.Don't be so sure of that. Most people's "heart" is not as big as yours. At least this guy's right here isn't. If I'm paying for pussy you better believe it will be C.O.D. None of that lay-away shit for me. There is too much free pussy out there to be doing shit like sending hookers (or "regular girls" who you give money to when you fuck them but imagine they aren't hookers) money.
Hibukhibok
11-03-12, 17:32
However, I easily tire of sex-only encounters, as many men do, and need someone to be a companion as well as a lover. My current wife was one of those hot encounters in the provinces, but she truly enchanted me and swept me off my feet. Now, eight years later, although I am almost 30 years older than my wife, our marriage is stronger than ever. She is a US citizen, has a good job as a federal employee, and as slim and hot as she ever was, yet for some reason (certainly not financial) remains devoted to me as her husband.
RG8 years? Lucky you. Congratulations. Religion sometimes has its good sides, being faithful for example (no reflexion on your great personal qualities and outstanding charm, just kidding).
Federal employee? Wow, she must be quite educated then, what is her job now and what was it in the Phils?
You did not mention kids, do you have any? Rare is the one who does not want at least one or two, unless constitutionally unable to conceive and even in this case she might pester you to adopt the illegitimate child of one of her brothers who coincidentally just happened to have dumped his pregnant Pinay GF.
FreebieFan
11-04-12, 07:30
Real cutey on DIA. But dig a little and you come up with this.The sad useless boy looks like the ideal candidate for " Biggest Loser ". What a prat!
Naked Gunz
11-04-12, 13:36
It appears that many guys here have had different vasectomies than I did. I had it done in a US hospital by a well qualified urologist. He numbed me with local anesthesia but when he cut each vas there was a considerable sharp pain the some have likened to getting kicked in the balls by a mule. The recovery was uneventful. However, sex never seemed to feel as good again. Maybe it's psychological, maybe not. I'm not saying sex is not enjoyable, it's just different and not as enjoyable. Would I have it done again? No way.I concur. You might want to sue. I also had a very smooth operation. As the doctor was doing mine he commented that he has had guys crying during the process, not from pain, but from loss of daddyhood. But he said I looked like I was on a beach.
Just a very slight tingle and discomfort aftwards. If you have lost some of the pleasure of sex, then I would be crying.
Radical Guy
11-04-12, 14:03
8 years? Lucky you. Congratulations. Religion sometimes has its good sides, being faithful for example (no reflexion on your great personal qualities and outstanding charm, just kidding).
Federal employee? Wow, she must be quite educated then, what is her job now and what was it in the Phils?
You did not mention kids, do you have any? Rare is the one who does not want at least one or two, unless constitutionally unable to conceive and even in this case she might pester you to adopt the illegitimate child of one of her brothers who coincidentally just happened to have dumped his pregnant Pinay GF.My wife, Maricel, was 18 when we met, and still a virgin. She gave me her virginity, and turned out to be the most enthusiastic and highly sexed lover I ever had. Although not educated, it was obvious that she was a very intelligent person.
I brought Maricel to the US on a fiancee visa, and we were married a few weeks after she arrived. She got a job at Walmart, and also went to college, getting her Associates degree in business management. After she got her US citizenship, Maricel got a civilian job with the Army as an administrative assistant, and now makes a fairly decent salary. She has never asked me to give money to her family, though we have agreed that she will send her family 10 percent of her earnings to help them out with expenses. The only expenditure I made for Maricel's family was a computer to enable them to chat with Maricel from time to time.
RG
. As the doctor was doing mine he commented that he has had guys crying during the process, not from pain, but from loss of daddyhood. But he said I looked like I was on a beach.I find it slightly absurd that a doctor would say that, even in jest. Vasectomies are not dispensed without the recipient being certain it is what he wants, and nobody is compelled to have them.
I cannot believe that anyone would be sad about such a step if their reasons for having the operation in the first place were sufficiently robust and thought through.
Maybe the "petticoat government" ordered it and they complied.
DriveAllNight
11-04-12, 18:27
My wife, Maricel, was 18 when we met, and still a virgin. She gave me her virginity, and turned out to be the most enthusiastic and highly sexed lover I ever had. Although not educated, it was obvious that she was a very intelligent person.
I brought Maricel to the US on a fiancee visa, and we were married a few weeks after she arrived. She got a job at Walmart, and also went to college, getting her Associates degree in business management. After she got her US citizenship, Maricel got a civilian job with the Army as an administrative assistant, and now makes a fairly decent salary. She has never asked me to give money to her family, though we have agreed that she will send her family 10 percent of her earnings to help them out with expenses. The only expenditure I made for Maricel's family was a computer to enable them to chat with Maricel from time to time.
RGAn absolute success story. Great to read those.
Hairy Wonder
11-05-12, 03:46
Federal employee? Wow, she must be quite educated then, what is her job now and what was it in the Phils?No offense to Radical Guy or his wife, but have you met some federal employees? Keep in mind that the security folks at the US airports are federal employees. I have no doubt that Maricel is very intelligent. But that is not the case for many federal employees. Believe me, I work with some complete idiots.
Hibukhibok
11-05-12, 22:05
No offense to Radical Guy or his wife, but have you met some federal employees? Keep in mind that the security folks at the US airports are federal employees. I have no doubt that Maricel is very intelligent. But that is not the case for many federal employees. Believe me, I work with some complete idiots.I was under the impression that the TSA folks at the airports were often hired contractors, maybe I am wrong. The only fed employees that I know are either in the military or work for scientific institutions. Hence perhaps my relatively high opinion of them. I forget FEMA employees, again contractors among them.
FreebieFan
11-08-12, 06:05
Recently heard from someone who asked why I was on an African dating site?
I replied that I'm not.
The link to the site was then given to me, and there I was with my profile from a popular Philippines dating site, on a different site specialising in Kenyan beauties.
We may all be advertising in Kenya and didn't know it!
Mr Enternational
11-08-12, 07:11
Recently heard from someone who asked why I was on an African dating site? I replied that I'm not.
The link to the site was then given to me, and there I was with my profile from a popular Philippines dating site, on a different site specialising in Kenyan beauties.
We may all be advertising in Kenya and didn't know it!LOL. That is because some of the sites use a crossover and put members on its sister sites as well. I was a member on some interracial site. Well the parent company was tangowire. I noticed a lot of women were fat, then there were a lot of women talking about a man in uniform. Come to find out they own various sites like big women, military, etc and they jumble everybody's profile together to make the membership for each individual site look bigger than it really is.
Soapy Smith
11-08-12, 09:38
The only fed employees that I know are either in the military or work for scientific institutions. Hence perhaps my relatively high opinion of them.My experience has been similar. There are many levels and types of job classification in the federal civil service in the U.S.; a few (VERY FEW) do not require much education, and TSA workers may be among these. But the public sector in the U.S. has a much larger proportion of employees with undergraduate and graduate degrees than in the private sector, and in most instances their jobs require these levels of education. There aren't many hamburger-flipping jobs in the public service. Based on the grammar, spelling, and word usage that I see here, I suspect that federal employees would generally stack up pretty well against the average ISG participant. I wouldn't be surprised if this pattern holds up in other countries as well.
Okay, this has nothing to do with mongering, nor did the several prior posts about U.S. federal employees. But like anybody else, I don't like having my toes stepped on.
Great Muta
11-09-12, 15:19
Looks like in this case he is using "scammed" in the sense that he has never given money to a girl who he has not fucked at least one time before giving her money (amount notwithstanding).
Don't be so sure of that. Most people's "heart" is not as big as yours. At least this guy's right here isn't. If I'm paying for pussy you better believe it will be C. O. D. None of that lay-away shit for me. There is too much free pussy out there to be doing shit like sending hookers (or "regular girls" who you give money to when you fuck them but imagine they aren't hookers) money.I've never paid a dime for anything from a girl and never will. Fuck them, I'm broke too.
Member #4351
11-09-12, 15:22
I've never paid a dime for anything from a girl and never will. Fuck them, I'm broke too.Then you are on the wrong forum. Go away.
Great Muta
11-09-12, 15:29
Then you are on the wrong forum. Go away.I'm talking about giving girls money for things that are not straight sex. I don't like to reward laziness. I've never mongered yet though just because I haven't been there.
Here is a pic of the girl on Dia. Do not know if they allow these kind of pics.
At the same time she is looking for serious relationship-Ha Ha
How old are you?
I'm talking about giving girls money for things that are not straight sex. I don't like to reward laziness. I've never mongered yet though just because I haven't been there.
Asian Rain
11-09-12, 16:46
Here is a pic of the girl on Dia. Do not know if they allow these kind of pics.Account will be banned. Sure this is a girl looking for quick cash. They pop up, get a customer and disappear until the next crisis. Enjoy, AR.
http://www.dateinasia.com/akira+cassy
" None scammed me" in the sense that nobody forced me to send money. I did send money sometimes on my own will depending on the girl and also if I plan to see her on my next visit. Sometimes I tell them I do not send money and will give money when I meet them next time.
I am sure all mongers in this forum have sent money once in a while to their favourite girl.If you voucher the money you gave her on the spot and then the money you sent, you will surely come out to a figure that is a bit nonsense. If your action is purely mongering. Which I think it is since you say that if she gets more demanding you stop as there are many willing and nice looking girls available. I don't see the point to sending money, unless you are in a romance, planning to marry her ASAP. I have prized and paid a girl with a bit more money than the rate, sometime. I also barfined a girl and avail of her services even if unplanned as I knew it helped her rent bills. But will never send money out as a charity like that.
FreebieFan
11-11-12, 14:21
But failed.
Saw a gal recently on a dating site called " Styrene"
Tried but failed and so ended up asking her, is your first name Polly? Some members here will get it.
But failed.
Saw a gal recently on a dating site called " Styrene"
Tried but failed and so ended up asking her, is your first name Polly? Some members here will get it.Actually she was Poly. RIP, Marianne.
Anyone here use Tagged. Com? I joined a few days ago but it's a rather complicated site. Many profiles are private so one has to sent requests. I'm not a facebooker so I can't be bothered. Some girls tend to overly decorate their pages so it looks like retch and text is illegible, obscured by butterflies, flowers, kitten and the like. It has this terribly annoying feature call "pets" (get bombarded with pets messages) where people buy your profile, which I don't understand the point of. Anyway, have seen some attractive girls, just wondering if anyone has used the site and can compare / contrast it to DIA or others.
It get's worse. The profile can link video and music and it opens as you open the profile. I have a relatively fast connection, but things get slowed down fairly quickly depending on the time of day. As for "pets" you need to dig a little deeper and find a way to block the games and other nonsense. The advantage of T is that more pictures are available than DIA. That really is the biggest problem with DIA. Only one pic.
Actually she was Poly. RIP, Marianne.
Anyone here use Tagged. Com? I joined a few days ago but it's a rather complicated site. Many profiles are private so one has to sent requests. I'm not a facebooker so I can't be bothered. Some girls tend to overly decorate their pages so it looks like retch and text is illegible, obscured by butterflies, flowers, kitten and the like. It has this terribly annoying feature call "pets" (get bombarded with pets messages) where people buy your profile, which I don't understand the point of. Anyway, have seen some attractive girls, just wondering if anyone has used the site and can compare / contrast it to DIA or others.
Jambo's message: bla bla bla "I like a girl who is entertaining, obedient, submissive, and enjoyable to be with."
Her message: "thanks for the messages and the appreciation sir but seems like you want to manipulate lives I don't like someone will dictate me what to do! Thanks goodluck Sir!"
Haha, yup. Next. At least she is respectful. Usually I have to ask a girl to use "sir".
Hibukhibok
11-12-12, 18:35
"I like a girl who is entertaining, obedient, submissive, and enjoyable to be with."An obedient, submissive Pinay! What an interesting notion! When you find her let us know.
If you want a Filipina to do something, anything, ask her firmly and precisely to do the opposite of what what you wish. She will immediately proceed and do exactly the contrary. Which is of course what you wanted her to do in the first place.
Hope you get it. Get it up, that is (oops, sorry bad joke, could not resist).
Hibukhibok
11-12-12, 18:48
But failed.
Saw a gal recently on a dating site called " Styrene"
Tried but failed and so ended up asking her, is your first name Polly? Some members here will get it.Yes a few of us did get it, I assume. Now if her nickname had been "ethylene" or better yet "ethylene terephthalate" would have asked her the same question?
Polyethylene Terephthalate is everywhere around us, including bottles of various fluids including those of which you consume too much (maybe).
Fluids which get you drunk and very sleepy much to the relief of the BG whom you dragged to your room and hasn't even taken her clothes off yet and probably won't, a peaceful night for her until you sleep it off if she is still there.
FreebieFan
11-15-12, 06:27
Yes a few of us did get it, I assume. Now if her nickname had been "ethylene" or better yet "ethylene terephthalate" would have asked her the same question?
Polyethylene Terephthalate is everywhere around us, including bottles of various fluids including those of which you consume too much (maybe).
Fluids which get you drunk and very sleepy much to the relief of the BG whom you dragged to your room and hasn't even taken her clothes off yet and probably won't, a peaceful night for her until you sleep it off if she is still there.I haven't yet encountered a gal called "Ethylene Teraphtalate " but if I did she would just be plain old "Ethyl " to me. LOL.
FreebieFan
11-15-12, 06:28
All this from a 22 year old.
1. You shall finish my food, because I have this bad habit for leftovers. There's always something left on my plate and you have to devour it or else. Haha.
2. You shall hold my hands. I'm looking forward to the holding hands.
3. You shall kiss me, only when we both feel like it.
4. You shall not shower me with I love you's- whether in text or when you call. I'd rather hear an "I love you" one time in one hundred years, when you say it with the utmost sincerity, than hear it a thousand times because you are oblige and dictated by what and how it should be.
5. You shall respect my individuality and privacy. When days that I don't want to talk, just hold me. When I shrug you off just stay, when I don't let you speak just listen to my ranting and whining. When I become stubborn just let me be. But be there for me. Because when all else fail I shall be there for you as well.
6. You shall love my family. Because no matter how imperfect they are, they will always be the one constant thing in my life.
7. You shall not bring me flowers or give me chocolates. Just show me love. If flowers and chocolates are your ways of expressing love, then by all means it will be accepted!
8. You shall not call me HONEY. But I can call you BABE or whatever I want to call you.
Member #4351
11-15-12, 15:22
Do you really think some DIA girl came up with that; "individuality", "utmost sincerity" etc.? Reminds me of when a certain infamous koripot forum member who thankfully doesn't post much anymore, was writing profiles for different girls in exchange for freebies and was also said to have placed fake ads himself posing as a girl.
Wicked Roger
11-15-12, 15:43
An obedient, submissive Pinay! What an interesting notion! When you find her let us know.How many do you want to meet H. Plenty there if you know where to look, what to do, how to ask and how to 'train'
An obedient, submissive Pinay! What an interesting notion! When you find her let us know.
If you want a Filipina to do something, anything, ask her firmly and precisely to do the opposite of what what you wish. She will immediately proceed and do exactly the contrary. Which is of course what you wanted her to do in the first place.
Hope you get it. Get it up, that is (oops, sorry bad joke, could not resist).Phi girls are definitely submissive. In other words most never say no to sex whenever you want it it. Submissive in the sense you make the plans and they go along with it.
Obedient is a matter of perspective. If she likes you or you play your cards right she can be all those you want her to be.
Ofcourse I am talking about dating girls. No experience in married to Philippina girls.
Once married all girls change their ways.
Asian Rain
11-15-12, 16:48
Plenty there if you know where to look, what to do, how to ask and how to 'train'That sounds like "effort" or "work", something very few of the mongers here are willing to do. I unfortunately include myself in this category, which is why I haven't had any anal in months and depend on pimpettes to beat the streets for girls.
Certainly appreciate your submissives. Pics of those pinked-up plump rumps are always a treasure.
Pic added for flavor. Yes, with the inverted nipple it looks like her tits are giving you a wink. Hehe. Enjoy, AsianRain
PolyOrchid
11-15-12, 20:04
Reminds me of when a certain infamous koripot forum member who thankfully doesn't post much anymore, was writing profiles for different girls in exchange for freebies and was also said to have placed fake ads himself posing as a girl.Ah, David, the gulliblity, BS, and excesses some poor naive Pinays are exposed to. Glad to see you're enjoying the Phils. I'll be forever grateful for your gracious assistance when I visited Lima a few years ago. Here's hoping our paths cross one day in the Phils.
Lometogo
PolyOrchid
11-15-12, 20:09
I've never paid a dime for anything from a girl and never will. Fuck them, I'm broke too.GM, perhaps you're not seeing the whole picture. Reminds me of the great Irish Brendhan Behan who said "the only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs a lot more money".
Ya think?
Happy trails, Blazer!
In previous millenia and other cultures it was perfectly acceptable to have many wives, and concubines, even hundreds, if you could afford them. I think a harem like Frenzy's would do in lieu / Hello Frenzy.
Once married all girls change their ways.
Wicked Roger
11-16-12, 04:16
That sounds like "effort" or "work", something very few of the mongers here are willing to do. Certainly appreciate your submissives. Pics of those pinked-up plump rumps are always a treasure.Some just come my way, fall in my lap. I must be a fatal attraction to those pinays LOL. Others are not effort and work IMHO, just a few choice words and for some reason they love the lifestyle.
But I agree that pinays by nature are submissive (well the ones we meet) just I like to take it to new levels at times. Or they do and I being a gentleman I just go along for the ride. LOL
And that rump does like getting very red :)....and is always begging for more :)
Ms inverted nipple and Ms easy par 4. Two more of your terrific 'finds. ' Love that hairy Bush.
Hibukhibok
11-17-12, 23:50
Some just come my way, fall in my lap. I must be a fatal attraction to those pinays LOL. Others are not effort and work IMHO, just a few choice words and for some reason they love the lifestyle.
But I agree that pinays by nature are submissive (well the ones we meet) just I like to take it to new levels at times. Or they do and I being a gentleman I just go along for the ride. LOL.
And that rump does like getting very red. And is always begging for more.You are a gentleman and you spank them into submission? Or you simply mean that your doggie style is extremely energetic?
FreebieFan
11-18-12, 11:35
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Pic added for flavor. Yes, with the inverted nipple it looks like her tits are giving you a wink. Hehe. Enjoy, AsianRainUsaed to travr often with an Jakart gal. 19, with a lovely pair, BUT both nipples were inverted and there were many times when I really didn't know what to do with her boobs. I means nipples just have this magnetic pull. No nipples and its a bit like a Ferrari with no engine. What do you do with it!
Smoky Jack
11-18-12, 20:48
All this from a 22 year old.
1. You shall finish my food, because I have this bad habit for leftovers. There's always something left on my plate and you have to devour it or else. Haha.
2. You shall hold my hands. I'm looking forward to the holding hands.
3. You shall kiss me, only when we both feel like it.
4. You shall not shower me with I love you's- whether in text or when you call. I'd rather hear an "I love you" one time in one hundred years, when you say it with the utmost sincerity, than hear it a thousand times because you are oblige and dictated by what and how it should be.
5. You shall respect my individuality and privacy. When days that I don't want to talk, just hold me. When I shrug you off just stay, when I don't let you speak just listen to my ranting and whining. When I become stubborn just let me be. But be there for me. Because when all else fail I shall be there for you as well.
6. You shall love my family. Because no matter how imperfect they are, they will always be the one constant thing in my life.
7. You shall not bring me flowers or give me chocolates. Just show me love. If flowers and chocolates are your ways of expressing love, then by all means it will be accepted!
8. You shall not call me HONEY. But I can call you BABE or whatever I want to call you.She shall fuck off.
All this from a 22 year old. .Seems to me an ISO9000 statement.
WestCoast1
11-18-12, 22:46
She shall fuck off.She shall fucketh off.
Soapy Smith
11-19-12, 10:36
both nipples were inverted and there were many times when I really didn't know what to do with her boobs. I means nipples just have this magnetic pull. No nipples and its a bit like a Ferrari with no engine. What do you do with it!Lick until they stiffen up enough, then grip the little bit that's exposed gently with your teeth to pry them out from hiding. If babies can figure out how to latch on, so can you. Another trick if the breasts are small is to suck as much of it as you can into your mouth, and then just use your tongue to press against the nipple, pushing it up against the roof of your mouth. Then move it around with your tongue, taking advantage of the ridges on the roof of your mouth like a miniature little wash board. They usually like that almost as much as having their nipples sucked.
Hibukhibok
11-21-12, 02:36
All this from a 22 year old.
1. You shall finish my food, because I have this bad habit for leftovers. There's always something left on my plate and you have to devour it or else. Haha.
Snip snip snip.
8. You shall not call me HONEY. But I can call you BABE or whatever I want to call you.LOL another one of these famously submissive, obedient and docile Pinays, I guess!
Her name in dia is renalyne20!
Yes, why do you ask?
Her name in dia is renalyne20!
I like the competition. I pulled this off of a gal's profile -- this is what the guy sent her.....
How are you
I like your porfile and wnat 2 complete your draem waht you see even you have child I am accpect you with your child as my own child just you marry me and complete my life with you
Send me mail
Your name.
Your mum name.
Your date of birth month year.
Your education.
Your what do work.
Your how many sister.
Your how many brother
Your how many child have is ok 4 me I'm accpect you
Your mobile number.
Your picture.
Your home address plase where.
Send me this all in my mail so I reaply you also my bakeground.
Email #
Her name in dia is renalyne20!She is a bar girl working in Angeles.
Waste of time.
Fredje1961
12-01-12, 04:55
Seems like trusted & true yahoo chatrooms will no longer be available after dec 14th
http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_MSNG&locale=en_US&id=SLN8407
While trolling DIA profiles, I got a kick out of this one from 'love245':
I'm nice but naughty at the same time in private.
I did a BJ while were on the plane LOL.
That was my first BJ on public.
I been a heart ache.
If your looking a one night stand I'm not that girl.
So, here's a gal announcing for all the world to hear that she's a member of the (oral) mile-high club, but she also wants us to know that she is not so loose as to consider a one night stand. I suggest that the next guy who takes her back to his place tell her to put the seat in upright position, fasten her seat belt and prepare for a turbulent flight!
Manta Ray
I don't know about the rest of you, but this gal hits all the wrong buttons for me.
DIA iyatbye
Hibukhibok
12-02-12, 18:29
I don't know about the rest of you, but this gal hits all the wrong buttons for me.
DIA iyatbyeTotally agree a girl who says she watches the National Geographic and the History Channels is highly suspicious (brains before pussy, stay away, mongers beware) , she might even be intelligent!
We've made fun of some of the silly or false profile some girls post. But searching a DIA possiblility I came across this post on a gal's FB page.
*me canadian, single, working Singapore telecom engineer, can we friend, , why I'd: DELETEyahoo. Com, add me yahoo massanger, I will help you as much I can*
Is that stupid to offer "help" on the first post, or is this his way of sussing them out? And how often would an "engineeer" make such a simple spelling mistake? Maybe he's not an engineer, but an anginaar!
Hibukhibok
12-03-12, 18:44
I don't know about the rest of you, but this gal hits all the wrong buttons for me.
DIA iyatbyeMany girls say no filipinos or no asians or no koreans or no muslims etc, saw a couple no germans, now you've found one no italians. But I never ever saw one who said no americans (or no frenchmen for that matter.).
Pip Jaeger
12-03-12, 22:58
we've made fun of some of the silly or false profile some girls post. but searching a dia possiblility i came across this post on a gal's fb page.
*me canadian, single, working singapore telecom engineer, can we friend, , why i'd: deleteyahoo. com, add me yahoo massanger, i will help you as much i can*
is that stupid to offer "help" on the first post, or is this his way of sussing them out? and how often would an "engineeer" make such a simple spelling mistake? maybe he's not an engineer, but an anginaar!sounds to me like he's one of those "self taught" chemical engineers. the ones who turn substances like beer, whiskey, vodka, etc into [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109). and he probably posted it late one night after taking a refresher course.
Fredje1961
12-04-12, 07:35
This one has the merit of being extremely clear.
http://www.dateinasia.com/AsianSexy
Anyone know her?
After many delays I'll be making my first trip to Phils in just a few weeks. I'll give a full report soon. Most of my time will be spent with 2 gfs in 2 different cities. I also have a little bit of time open to see 1 or 2 others in the transition. I'm mulling over my choices. I keep coming back to the one in the photos below. She's a sweet, mall-mannered lady and we get along quite nicely. She is willing to take the 5 hour bus ride from the province to see me, and says if I don't like her I can send her on her way. In terms of looks, she is very cute, but by no means the most beautiful of my contacts. Her one outstanding feature is that lustrous, waist-length curtain of Lady Godiva hair. I have to admit fantasies about that hair swirling all around me as we make love. We all have our fetishes. Some look for big breasts, others for a shapely ass, others for legs, etc. I never thought of myself as a "hair man," but I'm finding myself hooked. I have to say that many Filipinas are truly blessed in the hair department. So I'm curious: how important is hair when you evaluate the total package?
Soapy Smith
12-09-12, 08:16
Her one outstanding feature is that lustrous, waist-length curtain of Lady Godiva hair. I have to admit fantasies about that hair swirling all around me as we make love. We all have our fetishes. Some look for big breasts, others for a shapely ass, others for legs, etc. I never thought of myself as a "hair man," but I'm finding myself hooked. I have to say that many Filipinas are truly blessed in the hair department. So I'm curious: how important is hair when you evaluate the total package?Many Filipinas have beautiful long hair like hers. Long hair can be quite appealing, but in the end,"there's no accounting for taste." Only you know how important the hair is in the total package. But if you meet her, hopefully you'll make your judgment about her on the basis of other qualities as well.
But do not expect this one to be a provincial bumpkin. One of the photos shows her in a plane, and she's wearing the same clothes as in the other photo. I'd say a hotel photo, or perhaps a dormitory setting, given all the flip-flops. Poor girls from the province, on the rare occasions that they travel to the big city, are more likely to go by bus and ferry. So somebody with money paid for her flight.
And chances are this was not a flight from the province to Manila if she lives within a five hour ride. On the other hand, her seat mate appears to be another Filipina. So you might want to ask a few questions about the flight and go from there.
But do not expect this one to be a provincial bumpkin. So you might want to ask a few questions about the flight and go from there.I didn't want to disclose too much personal information about her, but actually I know quite a lot about her story. She was married for several years to a European, lived there for several years, and speaks that language passably. He marriage broke apart about a year ago and she moved back home. So she's more sophisticated than the average country girl. Her personality is gentle, sweet, and polite. But she hasn't been able to find a job and savings have run out. She's bored at home with nothing to do. A night or two of romance in the excitement sounds pretty appealing. I'm sure she's also hoping for a nice gift if we meet.
Hi there,
I have been using DIA for a long time since I have been going to Philippines. Lately, I just realized that I am getting many more contact requests from Malaysia and Indonesia girls than before. I wonder if you have noticed this trend and had any experience about it. Mostly, if the contacts were legit and also if the follow-ups were rewarding. There are some obvious differences on language, education and religion so I guess is not the same game.
Not sure about posting this in the Philippines thread but I guess that most people use DIA just to meet Philippina girls.
Stroker Ace88
12-11-12, 17:01
[SNIP] Not sure about posting this in the Philippines thread but I guess that most people use DIA just to meet Philippina girls.You should of went with your first instinct. Posting this question on the Malaysia and Indonesia threads will get you closer to finding your answer.
Some guys prefer to do the SEA hop and visit many countries per trip and use DIA to find a hook-up all over Asia, not just for the Philippines.
Unless you plan to visit Malaysia and Indonesia there is no reason to waste your time playing message tag with them IMO. Focus on the places you will visit, but as always it's 'up to you'.
This one has the merit of being extremely clear.
http://www.dateinasia.com/AsianSexy
Anyone know her?Try that link now and you know why most of them are not.
Hibukhibok
12-12-12, 04:49
I didn't want to disclose too much personal information about her, but actually I know quite a lot about her story. She was married for several years to a European, lived there for several years, and speaks that language passably. He marriage broke apart about a year ago and she moved back home. So she's more sophisticated than the average country girl. Her personality is gentle, sweet, and polite. But she hasn't been able to find a job and savings have run out. She's bored at home with nothing to do. A night or two of romance in the excitement sounds pretty appealing. I'm sure she's also hoping for a nice gift if we meet.Is she actually divorced or went back on her own, was she actually married? If she is legit she certainly should have some alimony from her ex at least for a while (if by Europe you mean western Europe where the rule of law prevails).
A reasonably attractive Pinay in Western Europe (wether she is dumped by her husband or dumps him) should have many options there w / o having to return home for good.
Maybe there is an interesting story there, but why worry so much about her if you all have in mind is "a night or two of romance"?
Hibukhibok
12-12-12, 05:02
I have to say that many Filipinas are truly blessed in the hair department. So I'm curious: how important is hair when you evaluate the total package?Extremely important for me, wether on top or somewhat lower (hate, really hate a shaved pussy) , now you should be aware that these beautiful creatures shed their lovely long hair constantly and even with the most fastidiously clean you will find her hair everywhere all the time. Even once in a while in the food that she has so lovingly prepared for you. The wonder is that they don't get bald.
Is she actually divorced or went back on her own, was she actually married? If she is legit she certainly should have some alimony from her ex at least for a while (if by Europe you mean western Europe where the rule of law prevails).
A reasonably attractive Pinay in Western Europe (wether she is dumped by her husband or dumps him) should have many options there w / o having to return home for good.
Maybe there is an interesting story there, but why worry so much about her if you all have in mind is "a night or two of romance"?Actually, she clarified just yesterday that she is separated and not yet divorced. She still have a visa to her husband's country and could go back and work, but she just missed her family. But you are right that it's not important for me to know all the details of her story when it would be just a brief meeting. She seems happy to have some romance and a night out on the town from a nice guy and some gifts to help her make ends meet.
On a related note, I find that so many women on DIA will start up a conversation with me just because I'm not crude. They tell me that it's very rare for a poster to treat them with respect. It's amazing how much mileage you can get out of simply not being an ass.
Actually, she clarified just yesterday that she is separated and not yet divorced. She still have a visa to her husband's country and could go back and work, but she just missed her family. But you are right that it's not important for me to know all the details of her story when it would be just a brief meeting. She seems happy to have some romance and a night out on the town from a nice guy and some gifts to help her make ends meet.
On a related note, I find that so many women on DIA will start up a conversation with me just because I'm not crude. They tell me that it's very rare for a poster to treat them with respect. It's amazing how much mileage you can get out of simply not being an ass.I concur with Wazoo, I don't even bring up sex until the pinay does. It's a game and they love to "talk around" the subject. If they come out talking money, then I change from BF / GF mode into business mode and start negotiating.
Respect for fellow human beings is something we should all practice. It comes back 2u tenfold.
Cheapy
In all the time that I have been using different chat / dating sites like DIA and Pinalove I have noticed a distinct disparity between the woman's appearance in her photos and the dimensions displayed on the profile.
Usually the photos show they are much bigger than the dimensions suggest.
Each time when I have asked for clarification I have had 2 responses: either they reply that the photo was taken years earlier and now "I am a little bit more chubby heehee" or else they have no idea how tall or heavy they are and so they just guess.
Sometimes they are in the ball park but yesterday I called out a women with around 10 pics on her profile who said she was 164 cms and 34 kgs. From her photos she would have to be 60 kgs minimum. 34 kgs is a spinner.
Her profile mentioned being honest and truthful and she did not want to meet liar guys (sic) so when I politely suggested that she should be honest and say truthfully how big (heavy) she was she became very nasty and blocked me.
Just a heads-up that you shouldn't always put much store on the height and weight listed on profiles. Most times they honestly have no idea how tall or heavy they are.
In all the time that I have been using different chat / dating sites like DIA and Pinalove I have noticed a distinct disparity between the woman's appearance in her photos and the dimensions displayed on the profile.Very true Red Kilt. I find them wrong more with the weight than the height. I too have asked "is that really your weight" when listed as 34kgs etc. Yesterday I asked that of a a DIA listed as 90 kgs and she said yes that's right. That's heavier than me! I always strive to have a cam chat before I have a Filipina date.
How do you find Pinalove? Never tried it.
Enjoy the festive season. I am!
Kongking
Just a heads-up that you shouldn't always put much store on the height and weight listed on profiles. Most times they honestly have no idea how tall or heavy they are.Yes, Red, and the same goes for all their other claims: beauty, breast size, age, sweetness, etc. One must see (and feel) to believe. Regards, buddy. Merry Christmas to all! Hope you guys are getting the Christmas "presents" you want!
In all the time that I have been using different chat / dating sites like DIA and Pinalove I have noticed a distinct disparity between the woman's appearance in her photos and the dimensions displayed on the profile.
Usually the photos show they are much bigger than the dimensions suggest.
Each time when I have asked for clarification I have had 2 responses: either they reply that the photo was taken years earlier and now "I am a little bit more chubby heehee" or else they have no idea how tall or heavy they are and so they just guess.
Sometimes they are in the ball park but yesterday I called out a women with around 10 pics on her profile who said she was 164 cms and 34 kgs. From her photos she would have to be 60 kgs minimum. 34 kgs is a spinner.
Her profile mentioned being honest and truthful and she did not want to meet liar guys (sic) so when I politely suggested that she should be honest and say truthfully how big (heavy) she was she became very nasty and blocked me.
Just a heads-up that you shouldn't always put much store on the height and weight listed on profiles. Most times they honestly have no idea how tall or heavy they are.After being with lots of DIA girls my observations are,
1. Target the age group you want. I only target 18-23 because this group tend to be non-corrupt and sometimes do not play games. Yes, they are inexperienced in sex but I like it that way to teach them.
Besides very few of my girls were money hungry and upkeep is cheap.
2. When you look at the pics posted on DIA, target the ones who have natural look. Photoshopped or showing big boobs etc are generally ladyboys. I also avoid the ones with heavy make up and hot lipstick.
Granted that these girls do not own a camera and they try to put the pics which was taken an occassion like wedding, party etc. Most of the time it is outdated. Cam chat is the best option but I have " Dated " without cam chats also. Experience varied from thrilled to dissappointment. But if they give me good sex who cares?
3. Naturally when they meet a strange guy they will be afraid. It is our duty to put them at ease and treat them well. Never demand anything first. Also give them a choice to run if they do not like you. It is not to be taken.
As an insult. I have almost tried to kick some girls out because of an attitude. Even then I give them a day to adjust. Some do and become excellent companions and some do not and leave.
4. Always make your intentions crystal clear as to the relationship. I always say I am looking for company only and never promise serious relationship. Some girls drop me but you will be surprised how many still wants to be with me.
5. As to money and gifts very few demand it. They are quite happy with whatever you bring, buy or give. For them even 500 pesos is big. Just the other day one of my previous gf asked me if I can send 500 pesos.
Although long time ago I have sent money to girls these days I give only when I see them.
6. IMHO most of the girls know height and weight when they joined DIA. If they are little plump their boobs will be bigger. Ver rare to find In Phil slim girls having big boobs.
Bottom line is you are going there to have fun with normal girls. So what if they are short or tall or heavy or slim? Just enjoy them and if you do not like can always get rid of them with some compensation.
This advice does not hold good for people looking for lifetime companion or long time relationship.
After being with lots of DIA girls my observations are,
< SNIP
Bottom line is you are going there to have fun with normal girls. So what if they are short or tall or heavy or slim? Just enjoy them and if you do not like can always get rid of them with some compensation.Good series of points Sammon and worth a "Post of Distinction" citation.
I concur with all of your points. In my OP I didn't mention that I too have lots of experience with DIA women. My main point was to advise guys NOT to put too fine a point on what dimensions are stated in the profile, and be prepared for a difference between the woman that you actually meet and the one on the DIA site. Sometimes it is a pleasant surprise and they are BETTER in person than on chat.
After being with lots of DIA girls my observations are,
SNIP.
6. IMHO most of the girls know height and weight when they joined DIA. If they are little plump their boobs will be bigger. Ver rare to find In Phil slim girls having big boobs.
Bottom line is you are going there to have fun with normal girls. So what if they are short or tall or heavy or slim? Just enjoy them and if you do not like can always get rid of them with some compensation.
This advice does not hold good for people looking for lifetime companion or long time relationship.Apparently Sammon has a rule #7.
7. If a fellow ISGer give you a contact, suggest that you will return the favor in the future. But then don't do it.
LOL. And for those of you who do share thank you. You know who you are. When I asked Jackson to create the chat thread it was my hope that we could exchange info about specific gals. X
Although I've yet to go over there, I've been going through DIA for a few days now without much success.
I've noticed that the ones that dress the sexiest and talk dirtiest on their profiles are ladyboys. It seems like the owners of the website will kick any girl who dresses sexy. If she isn't a ladyboy. WTF is up with that?
Though mainly it's also because I'm restricting my searches to Manila, AC, and other places in the north where I'll be visiting. Anyways I'll keep trying but so far I've put in quite a bit of effort without much return. Wondering why everyone else is crowing about it. If anyone does have any gems feel free to share but I don't have much to give in return. Though if I do meet you in Manila during CNY I'll buy you a beer!
While we're talking about DIA: what city names are you guys using when searching for girls in for example AC? Some girls put down Angeles City, some put down Angeles, some Pampanga, some AC etc etc etc.
Apparently Sammon has a rule #7.
7. If a fellow ISGer give you a contact, suggest that you will return the favor in the future. But then don't do it.
LOL. And for those of you who do share thank you. You know who you are. When I asked Jackson to create the chat thread it was my hope that we could exchange info about specific gals. XI have never asked for contact info from anybody except David thinking that I will make a trip to Peru. He was gracious enough as he helps lots of forum members. But for me at the moment pull of Phi is very strong and have put of my trip to Peru.
I can hold my own fort with harem, thank you.
Secondly it is not the question of giving contact details but it is the girls wish that she is not traded between people even with just the contact info.
I have helped some forum members with the contact info of some girls who I have not met and some I have met but they requested if I can introduce them to my friends. The members and the girls thanked me.
I don't think you'll have much luck getting dia gals in AC. Most are bar girls anyway. Just go to the bar.
Here is one that I thought was in Visayans, but I finally met her in AC recently. Mostly a waste of my time. Aimalyn.
While we're talking about DIA: what city names are you guys using when searching for girls in for example AC? Some girls put down Angeles City, some put down Angeles, some Pampanga, some AC etc etc etc.
Hibukhibok
12-27-12, 07:42
I don't think you'll have much luck getting dia gals in AC. Most are bar girls anyway. Just go to the bar.
Here is one that I thought was in Visayans, but I finally met her in AC recently. Mostly a waste of my time. Aimalyn.Acute, chronical, aggravated and incurable mongeritis leads to this kind of statement.
Angeles City has about 340, 000 inhabitants, Metro Angeles close to a million and it is quite unlikely that all the DIA women from AC and of the surrounding areas are all bar girls.
The typical DIA girl from AC is probably not different from the ones in Cebu, Bacolod, Davao, CDO etc, the entire gamut from quasi-nun to working girls (and ladyboys) with of course (X man number here) many bar girls, probably more than elsewhere but *percentage wise* not that significant.
There maybe a stigma (LOL) associated with AC and the girls avoid to mention their town? I am skeptical. Is it the same for Subic or Olongapo?
Sources Wikipedia and DIA (search for Angeles City).
A town with several universities, malls etc should certainly offer lots of possibilities (different too) beyond yr lovely and delightful bar fined BG, ST or LT (true you do need DIA for the latter).
Question to the moderator: when I type who (full spelling with re at the end) it changes automatically to working girl, why? Mrs Grundy at work on ISG?
after being with lots of dia girls my observations are,
1. target the age group you want. i only target 18-23 because this group tend to be non-corrupt and sometimes do not play games. yes, they are inexperienced in sex but i like it that way to teach them.
besides very few of my girls were money hungry and upkeep is cheap.
3. naturally when they meet a strange guy they will be afraid. it is our duty to put them at ease and treat them well. never demand anything first. also give them a choice to run if they do not like you. it is not to be taken.
4. always make your intentions crystal clear as to the relationship. i always say i am looking for company only and never promise serious relationship. some girls drop me but you will be surprised how many still wants to be with me.
5. as to money and gifts very few demand it. they are quite happy with whatever you bring, buy or give. for them even 500 pesos is big. just the other day one of my previous gf asked me if i can send 500 pesos.
although long time ago i have sent money to girls these days i give only when i see them.
6. imho most of the girls know height and weight when they joined dia. if they are little plump their boobs will be bigger. ver rare to find in phil slim girls having big boobs.
1. agreed w/ caveats. my target age was 24. 35; the 18- 22 ones i found a bit annoying with the incessant yet banal texting, but i have since dropped it down to 18. keep in mind that there are some excellent older women. i've been meeting one who is 40 who hadn't had sex in 17 years after she gave birth and the guy dumped her. i've also met one who is 50. she constantly messaged me. three kids and an unmarked stomach. separated from her husband. a real firecracker. my mistake to wait so long. why? i ignored her due to her age. i've enjoyed both immensely. personality trumps age.
3 & 4. in my profiles i communicate exactly what will happen; mall wandering, flowers, dinner dates, and wedding bells aren't on offer. they come to my place for sex. note: after i posted this i received a reply to an email i earlier sent: "thats sounds great!! i like rimming guy asshole licking deep into it with my tongue.. ! [CodeWord121] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord121) and cuming into my mouth and all over face is my favorite one to do. except anal,rough sex hurt/pain are my limitations and rules that must to be follow! also im open fucking in pussy but must hve condom to be sure safe!! im free to meet up in day time in late morning..! here is my no. 09(redacted).. im lookung forward to meet u..! thanks!" you're welcome, baby.
5. rarely am i asked for money. when it has happened it's for "taxi", and i pay no more than 300.
6. height and weight i don't worry too much about. in my experience a chubby girl will tell you she's that. so many lads looking for spinners that they've failed to find the 5'6" mestiza with the 38dd's. i haven't felt and fucked tits so large in almost 2 decades. speaking of mestizas, don't limit yourself to the "exotic beauties".
i'll add: if you're looking for 2 or more hookups a day find a way to keep track of your girls. i've forgotten to add names to the numbers in my phone. their profile names are unlike their real names. i've confused numerous girls with others. today i was looking to contact a girl who came over last thur and i couldn't remember her name or where i met her. i'm checking all my messages on all the sites (shit, girls frequently change their photos) and all my emails. flummoxed. eureka! i found her and sent her an email. a couple of hours later she replies that's she's in makati and do i want to meet."sure, come on over. 430." she wants to meet in a mall. odd. last time she came right over. maybe she wants christmas present. bloody hell."come to my condo." i get a reply."okay, where do you live?" wtf, she was just here a week ago. absentminded one. i send address."i'm in a cab and will be there soon." ten minutes later she arrives, texts me, and i meet her outside. who. is. this? once in a while the gods smile on me, and today was one of 'them. a fucking knockout. 19. so beautiful. tall. well dressed. killer heels. studying to be a flight attendant. chat for 15 minutes and i tell her: "go take a shower." "okay."
this leads me to my last suggestion. limit your questions and maximize your directives."do you want to take shower now?" i feel is too risky. they're already getting a nosebleed from all the english. have a heart. tell her what to do.
happy new year, lads.
I had a very nice DIA in AC and she was slim and stacked. Actually, she was a referral from another DIA girl who couldn't get a babysitter or something. But the bar girls are fine, too.
I don't think you'll have much luck getting dia gals in AC. Most are bar girls anyway. Just go to the bar.
Here is one that I thought was in Visayans, but I finally met her in AC recently. Mostly a waste of my time. Aimalyn.
Pip Jaeger
12-27-12, 16:30
I'll add: If you're looking for 2 or more hookups a day find a way to keep track of your girls. I've forgotten to add names to the numbers in my phone. Their profile names are unlike their real names. I've confused numerous girls with others.I use MS OneNote. A simple click on the task bar's icon and you've got a screen shot of her DIA page (or whatever website page) , complete with her photo and the last few messages. You can also capture screen shots from the message pages and group them with her profile page. If the girl changes her photo I simply add it to the group as well. It's also handy if she has closed or deleted her profile, but already given you her contact info.
You can type in personal notes too. Like phone numbers she gave you in ym / skype or via eamil, personal tastes, bi-girl or straight, etc. Along with various types of tags; all of it searchable; so if you have a mystery phone number on your cell phone you can search for the number in OneNote. About tags, for example for "D- cup" only girls, add a tag and type in "D-cups" next to the icon that pops up (wherever you place the cursor on her page is where the tag appears). Later you can search for all of those tags. You can change font sizes and colors, highlight sections, etc. The possibilities are endless.
All of the info you gather is saved into "workbooks". You can separate them with tabs for each city / region / country, etc. And you have the option of password protection for each workbook or just the individual tabs.
Of course it takes a little to get used to, but I have found it a great tool for organizing my DIA / web contacts. There are also some apps for iPad users that will allow you access, but I don't know if you can edit from there; is anyone aware of an app for it?
Drag and drop your OneNote files into something like Dropbox and you'll have web access to your notes from anywhere.
Naturally this is no help if you forget to update the contact info on your phone and you're not near a computer, LOL.
I use MS OneNote.Outstanding. I'll check it out. Thanks, m8.
Hibukhibok
12-27-12, 17:01
A town with several universities, malls etc should certainly offer lots of possibilities (different too) beyond yr lovely and delightful bar fined BG, ST or LT (true you do need DIA for the latter).
Question to the moderator: when I type who (full spelling with re at the end) it changes automatically to working girl, why? Mrs Grundy at work on ISG?Correction: True you do NOT need DIA for the latter. Oops.
Of course DIA is useful for the former.
The former and the latter etc, this turn is confusing and should be avoided as per Samuel Johnson himself, possibly a monger too with weird tastes (enjoyed being whipped) , never made it to AC although strictly speaking he could have since during his lifetime (1762) Manila then was in British hands and AC only a short (couple days) kalesa hop. His dick was short too but any Japayoke BG can handle that very well.
The Brits would have liked in retrospect to hang on to Manila but when the treaty of Paris was signed (1763) there was no mention of the Phils as the signatories did not even yet know about the Spaniards having surrendered Manila to the Brits.
Stroker Ace88
12-27-12, 21:50
Although I've yet to go over there, I've been going through DIA for a few days now without much success.
I've noticed that the ones that dress the sexiest and talk dirtiest on their profiles are ladyboys. It seems like the owners of the website will kick any girl who dresses sexy. If she isn't a ladyboy. WTF is up with that?
Though mainly it's also because I'm restricting my searches to Manila, AC, and other places in the north where I'll be visiting. Anyways I'll keep trying but so far I've put in quite a bit of effort without much return. Wondering why everyone else is crowing about it. If anyone does have any gems feel free to share but I don't have much to give in return. Though if I do meet you in Manila during CNY I'll buy you a beer!First, every story on ISG about how guys had the time of their life with a filipina and they post it was so easy, needs to come with a big blinking YMMV Stipulation. Some guys are younger, some handsome, some have infinite charm and can get laid anywhere and pick and choose who they bang. In life all things are not created equal, and this is one of those times. Take some time to do your homework. Browse the men seeking woman section on DIA and check out the competition. Put some time in and read a few profiles and get a sense of what other guys are doing and posting. Granted most of those guys are web-warriors only and will never get on a plane and visit the Philippines, but check them out just the same.
The next thing you need to do is post a clear and flattering picture on your DIA profile (or other dating website). Posting a non-smiling or passport-slash-mugshot picture ensures your profile will get few visitors and make sure it's a color picture with a nice background. Time stamps on your pic that say '1997' are a real turn off! Make sure its a somewhat recent pic because if there's one thing filipinas are good at, is picturex2 knowledge.
Next bit of info would be do not lie on your profile! If you want a wife, gear your profile that way. If you want a steady GF, adjust your profile accordingly. If you want NSA sex with a filipina be blunt and straight-forward without mentioning money or time limits. Both things that will get your profile banned and make the filipina feel like a BG. Hint with code words like "I will take good care of you" ect, and work out the terms and payment when you meet in person or on another medium like yahoo messenger.
Last thing to realize, filipinas rarely take the time to read your profile. They just send a message (cut and paste or original) and alot have no clue what you are seeking. I always ask within the first few messages sent if they have read my profile. Most will go read it at that time.
When it comes to asking other members for contact info or 'gems' as you call it, is a dicey game and you need to put in time and do your own searching for best results. Asking another member might yield a few numbers or profiles but are your tastes compatible? What if you like spinners and the info contains only chubbies? What if the filipinas interacted very well with one member and creating the same chemistry with you might be asking for too much. So do your own homework and that way you have only yourself to blame if things do not work out as planned.
Stroker Ace88
12-27-12, 22:35
Acute, chronical, aggravated and incurable mongeritis leads to this kind of statement.
Angeles City has about 340, 000 inhabitants, Metro Angeles close to a million and it is quite unlikely that all the DIA women from AC and of the surrounding areas are all bar girls.
The typical DIA girl from AC is probably not different from the ones in Cebu, Bacolod, Davao, CDO etc, the entire gamut from quasi-nun to working girls (and ladyboys) with of course (X man number here) many bar girls, probably more than elsewhere but *percentage wise* not that significant.
There maybe a stigma (LOL) associated with AC and the girls avoid to mention their town? I am skeptical. Is it the same for Subic or Olongapo?
Sources Wikipedia and DIA (search for Angeles City).
A town with several universities, malls etc should certainly offer lots of possibilities (different too) beyond yr lovely and delightful bar fined BG, ST or LT (true you do need DIA for the latter).
When you have to source Wiki, you have no idea what's going on in and around AC. Most of the senior members know it's a total waste of time to chase "regular" DIA girls who list there location as AC or any surrounding city. The vast majority are indeed BG's who are tired of the bar scene and have wised up to the fact that yah for awhile the bar scene was fun but there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow only a worn out body. All of them desire a knight to ride in, marry them and take them away from having to endure a pussy pounding from a couple hundred guys per year minimum.
No matter how many times you chat or exchange messages with 'regular' AC women (non-sex trade employed) on DIA to a fault all will deny working in a bar or ever working in a bar. When pressed or while digging through the FB, tagged or upon meeting in person it becomes clear they worked or still work in a bar. Sure will try and claim waitress status and some will say they only work in the kitchen and that's alot of bola.
Sure there are 'regular' filipinas who live in AC that are on DIA and other dating sites, but IMO when you meet 10 and 8 are working in the bar or former BG's its not worth the time to try and sort out who is whom. There are better places in the Philippines where it's much easier to find 'regular' filipinas without all the drama and hassle.
Stroker Ace88
12-27-12, 22:39
[SNIP]
Question to the moderator: when I type who (full spelling with re at the end) it changes automatically to working girl, why? Mrs Grundy at work on ISG?The word you are inquiring about is a derogorory word and as such has no place on ISG. Forum software corrects your improper use of the word into "working girl". Using alternative ways to get the word in question (as well as other offending words and terms) inserted into the text of your post is an easy way to get placed on moderated status. Openly criticizing forum management practices or moderator actions will result in your profile potentially being banned.
Happy Holidays to all.
Mr Enternational
12-28-12, 06:55
No matter how many times you chat or exchange messages with 'regular' AC women (non-sex trade employed) on DIA to a fault all will deny working in a bar or ever working in a bar.The couple of chicks that I met on DIA who are in Angeles did say right off that they work in a bar when I asked where they work.
Sure there are 'regular' filipinas who live in AC that are on DIA and other dating sites, but IMO when you meet 10 and 8 are working in the bar or former BG's its not worth the time to try and sort out who is whom. There are better places in the Philippines where it's much easier to find 'regular' filipinas without all the drama and hassle.Exactly. If you are going to a working girl house you shouldn't be seeking out church girls. Go to a church for that. Use the proper venue according to your objective.
Yes, it is possible! I met a maid from a well known AC hotel on dia and bonked her on the first date. I guess all the pheremones floating around those hotel rooms must have had an effect on her.
Just the other day, I texted an AC dia gal and asked if Santa had brought here anything nice. Her reply,"yea he bring me dildo to make masterbite myself LOL what about you." I never found the time to meet her, but she certainly doesn't sound like the shy type. LOL. X.
I had a very nice DIA in AC and she was slim and stacked. Actually, she was a referral from another DIA girl who couldn't get a babysitter or something. But the bar girls are fine, too.
Hart David
12-28-12, 11:59
Just returned from my third trip to phili with in one and half years, this is the longest I stayed there
In nutshell, my intentions were to find a long term GF material and fun too. I used the DIA in my first trip but later filipina cupid which turned out to be a gold mine for me at least. Remember guys I am a brown skinned asian not Indian. Met many lovely pinay some pay for play but but money was never negotiated but I spend and took good care of the pinay. I enjoyed their lovely bodies except one who I felt so innocent I could not do that, she was a poor girl, I pitied her! However treated her well/
Manila remained expensive but fun, and dating girls even though money was not negotiated it was expensive. Tried the high ends bars as well as low end places like MBC, which I did not like as quality was quite poor. Met few college students and they are really nice and fun.
FInally, managed to find the women I had perfect chemistry with me, a nursing student. I am having long term plans with her. Cebu girls are more accommodating and fun but the selection is limited where as Manila has the variety. Unfortunately, I got sick for about one week down with flu!
However, Cupid worked for me but spend quite a considerable time filtering out undesirables. I did not try AC but went to nueva ecija nice trip away from manila. Diving trip to malapascua with a nice pinay was another highlight. Last few days of the trip was towards holiday season and was with my GF so not much mongering!
Will plan next trip away from busy holidays particularly Christmas and new year.
Lovely country lovely people and lot of thieves.
Cheers,
That is Philippines!
BrasilSoccer0
12-29-12, 09:57
Hi HD,
I like your report man. I think we go after similar kind of girls.
You spent 1. 5yrs in Philipines or returned within 1. 5yrs from your last visit?
Well, I am planing my first trip and don't know which cities I should visit. You seem to have experiences in multiple cities!
What city / town do you recommend to have more chances to find cute GF material girls with real innocence who are still fresh and not spoiled?
And I don't care for bars but I sure miss being near a nice clean sandy beach!
BS.
Just returned from my third trip to phili with in one and half years, this is the longest I stayed there
In nutshell, my intentions were to find a long term GF material and fun too. I used the DIA in my first trip but later filipina cupid which turned out to be a gold mine for me at least. Remember guys I am a brown skinned asian not Indian. Met many lovely pinay some pay for play but but money was never negotiated but I spend and took good care of the pinay. I enjoyed their lovely bodies except one who I felt so innocent I could not do that, she was a poor girl, I pitied her! However treated her well/
Manila remained expensive but fun, and dating girls even though money was not negotiated it was expensive. Tried the high ends bars as well as low end places like MBC, which I did not like as quality was quite poor. Met few college students and they are really nice and fun.
FInally, managed to find the women I had perfect chemistry with me, a nursing student. I am having long term plans with her. Cebu girls are more accommodating and fun but the selection is limited where as Manila has the variety. Unfortunately, I got sick for about one week down with flu!
However, Cupid worked for me but spend quite a considerable time filtering out undesirables. I did not try AC but went to nueva ecija nice trip away from manila. Diving trip to malapascua with a nice pinay was another highlight. Last few days of the trip was towards holiday season and was with my GF so not much mongering!
Will plan next trip away from busy holidays particularly Christmas and new year.
Lovely country lovely people and lot of thieves.
Cheers,
That is Philippines!
SergeantRay
12-29-12, 17:33
Brasil Soccer,
I suggest Cebu City. There are plenty of girls coming in from the province, and at the same time it's easy to hop on a boat or plane and hit white sand beaches not so far away (Malapascua, Panglao, Bantayan, Siquijor, Camiguin, etc.)
My girlfriend this summer was an 18 year old shop girl from the province. When she said she was from Toledo City, I assumed she meant Toledo "City," when in actuality she was from a small village out in the mountains.
She was so sweet, grateful for Jollibee's, thrilled to go to the movies, ecstatic when I got her a hot oil treatment for her hair, always appreciative of even the smallest gift. She wasn't a virgin, but she learned a lot over the summer.
It's experiences like these that make life worth living.
Stroker Ace88
12-29-12, 21:06
Yes, it is possible! I met a maid from a well known AC hotel on dia and bonked her on the first date. I guess all the pheremones floating around those hotel rooms must have had an effect on her.
Just the other day, I texted an AC dia gal and asked if Santa had brought here anything nice. Her reply,"yea he bring me dildo to make masterbite myself LOL what about you." I never found the time to meet her, but she certainly doesn't sound like the shy type. LOL. X.You just proved my point with the AC dildo queen.
Stroker Ace88
12-29-12, 21:20
Hi HD,
I like your report man. I think we go after similar kind of girls.
You spent 1. 5yrs in Philipines or returned within 1. 5yrs from your last visit?
Well, I am planing my first trip and don't know which cities I should visit. You seem to have experiences in multiple cities!
What city / town do you recommend to have more chances to find cute GF material girls with real innocence who are still fresh and not spoiled?
And I don't care for bars but I sure miss being near a nice clean sandy beach!
BS.BS,
To clarify what Hart David posted. He just returned from his third trip to the Philippines in the last year and a half. He did not stay in the Philippines for 1. 5 years.
If you want beaches close to the city go to Davao. Samal Island is close, as are other beaches, dive and snorkel spots.
In Cebu the nicer beaches are a two hour+ drive away from the city, making for a very long day trip. Both Davao and Cebu have seperate threads on ISG so take the time to read up on each city and it will help you to figure out what place is best for you.
I use MS OneNote.Excellent advice. I do the same and find OneNote extremely useful. I can remember on my first trip to phils a few years ago I used a database in MS Access but OneNote is much quicker.
BrasilSoccer0
12-30-12, 05:27
SR.
Thanks a lot. I will read more from the Cebu thread.
You mentioned the province girls and a light pulp went up. I recall my best GFE in Cuba were not from city girls but from the many province girls who came to the closest city to study in the university and were interned there.
BS.
Brasil Soccer,
I suggest Cebu City. There are plenty of girls coming in from the province, and at the same time it's easy to hop on a boat or plane and hit white sand beaches not so far away (Malapascua, Panglao, Bantayan, Siquijor, Camiguin, etc.)
My girlfriend this summer was an 18 year old shop girl from the province. When she said she was from Toledo City, I assumed she meant Toledo "City," when in actuality she was from a small village out in the mountains.
She was so sweet, grateful for Jollibee's, thrilled to go to the movies, ecstatic when I got her a hot oil treatment for her hair, always appreciative of even the smallest gift. She wasn't a virgin, but she learned a lot over the summer.
It's experiences like these that make life worth living.
Mr Enternational
12-30-12, 06:01
I use MS OneNote. A simple click on the task bar's icon and you've got a screen shot of her DIA page (or whatever website page) , complete with her photo and the last few messages. You can also capture screen shots from the message pages and group them with her profile page. If the girl changes her photo I simply add it to the group as well. It's also handy if she has closed or deleted her profile, but already given you her contact info.Thanks Pip. I didn't know anything about the program. But now I have already downloaded it and done a tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqXsg0lu2RU To get me familiar with it. Now I am on my way to organizing my chicks!
What city / town do you recommend to have more chances to find cute GF material girls with real innocence who are still fresh and not spoiled?
BS.I'd recommend Dumaguete. Four unis and several colleges provide fertile ground to hunt coeds. But the place is very sleepy compared to Manila and Cebu.
BrasilSoccer0
12-30-12, 09:50
Hutsori,
I am going there in the summer; June and July. How is that going to impact my specific type of supply?
BS.
I'd recommend Dumaguete. Four unis and several colleges provide fertile ground to hunt coeds. But the place is very sleepy compared to Manila and Cebu.
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 02:12
Hutsori,
I am going there in the summer; June and July. How is that going to impact my specific type of supply?
BS.You need to stop thinking in terms of your own country, and start thinking in terms that relate to the Philippines. Summer in the Philippines occurs roughly March-early June.
Next you need to RTFF, all the answers are here. There's a Dumaguete section on ISG.
Hutsori,
I am going there in the summer; June and July. How is that going to impact my specific type of supply?
BS.What kind of supply you are talking about?
College girls are not lined up on the street to be picked up and fucked in your room.
To pick up normal girls you need certain charm to start with. Remember they have their own friends and friendship with benefits relationship with their college guys. So they are not desparate for sex.
While ago I had supported a girl through college. She told me all the girls fuck around. Very few want a foreigner especially old. Even if they do it they want it done discretely. All her friends knew I was her BF and I could go to her college to drop her and pick her on a motorboke she had. She had a guy from Korea sending her lots of money every month and she bought a used motorbike. Things unravelled when korean guy's wife found out and money stopped. Korean guy was sending upwards of 50, 000 pesos per month she said. I was giving 10, 000 per month for school and other things. Glad to say right now she is in the middle east having a good job.
I would suggest go to dating websites to get normal girls. College girls even in discoes gather in groups with some boys. Only if you get extremely luck maybe one girl will give her number.
Wicked Roger
12-31-12, 19:14
What kind of supply you are talking about?
College girls are not lined up on the street to be picked up and fucked in your room.
Very few want a foreigner especially old.
Things unravelled when korean guy's wife found out and money stopped. Korean guy was sending upwards of 50, 000 pesos per month she said. I was giving 10, 000 per month for school and other things. Glad to say right now she is in the middle east having a good job.Tend to agree with Sammon and your questions to the forum seem to suggest you are set to fail.
Sammon. The same happened to 2 girls I know but they found other guys via yours truly. Well naughty guys . And they are old (well some like maturity as with that comes experience and kinkiness LOL)
Talking of girls. Which ME country and do you have the details (PM?) as maybe she needs more lessons from teacher WR? LOL
Stroker Ace88
12-31-12, 22:11
What kind of supply you are talking about?
College girls are not lined up on the street to be picked up and fucked in your room.
To pick up normal girls you need certain charm to start with. Remember they have their own friends and friendship with benefits relationship with their college guys. So they are not desparate for sex.
While ago I had supported a girl through college. She told me all the girls fuck around. Very few want a foreigner especially old. Even if they do it they want it done discretely. All her friends knew I was her BF and I could go to her college to drop her and pick her on a motorboke she had. She had a guy from Korea sending her lots of money every month and she bought a used motorbike. Things unravelled when korean guy's wife found out and money stopped. Korean guy was sending upwards of 50, 000 pesos per month she said. I was giving 10, 000 per month for school and other things. Glad to say right now she is in the middle east having a good job.
I would suggest go to dating websites to get normal girls. College girls even in discoes gather in groups with some boys. Only if you get extremely luck maybe one girl will give her number.Some good info posted by Sammon, newbs pay attention.
TheOtherDave
01-01-13, 01:28
Hutsori,
I am going there in the summer; June and July. How is that going to impact my specific type of supply?
BS.Specific type of supply sounds like your going there to deal LOL. That attitude will get you nowhere with the girls. They might have it hard there. But they still like to be treated with respect.
Try Angeles City. Maybe the bar scene there will be an easy place for you to start. Field Avenue. Easy place for pickups. If your into the bar scene there. Most of the girls a looking for foreign guys. Maybe cost a little to take them out from the bar. But could be worth a small investment. About 1500php w / are from the bar.
You can try dateinasia. Com free dating site. Full of Filipinas looking for foreign guys to date. Meet. Check it out. Arrange to meet them before you leave. Really a piece of cake to pick them up. If you treat them with a bit of respect.
Anyway do all the work before you get there. Then you don't have to spend a lot of time hunting.
Good Luck!
Yeah I like the picture of this guy roaming the campuses in Dumaguete propositioning the coeds. Won't be a happy ending at all for him at all unless he likes getting it in a Negros jail. This the same guy from the Manila thread claiming he's banging some girl in her condo while people at Diamond Hotel are watching. Let's see. You can bang a rich pinay in a big condo in Manila but you don't know how or where to bed a provincial girl? Bola bola.
GoodEnough
01-01-13, 09:42
Yeah I like the picture of this guy roaming the campuses in Dumaguete propositioning the coeds. Won't be a happy ending at all for him at all unless he likes getting it in a Negros jail. This the same guy from the Manila thread claiming he's banging some girl in her condo while people at Diamond Hotel are watching. Let's see. You can bang a rich pinay in a big condo in Manila but you don't know how or where to bed a provincial girl? Bola bola.You're doubtless correct, and I drew the same inference. I've often suggested though, that if I were looking to meet a young, attractive, middle class woman, I would consider hanging around one or two of the dozens of small coffee shops that dot the landscape around universities. This would not work at the more exclusive places like Ateneo or UP Diliman, but would, I believe, meet with eventual success at some of the lesser schools, and certainly in non-Luzon cities like Davao. I remember, when my asawa was in nursing school, going often to pick her up and getting endless smiles and offers of assistance from some of the female students, and it would have been a simple matter to have gotten some phone numbers. Even then, I wasn't particularly dashing, young, or tall, so I doubt it was my looks that engendered the smiles.
GE
Yeah I like the picture of this guy roaming the campuses in Dumaguete propositioning the coeds. Won't be a happy ending at all for him at all unless he likes getting it in a Negros jail. This the same guy from the Manila thread claiming he's banging some girl in her condo while people at Diamond Hotel are watching. Let's see. You can bang a rich pinay in a big condo in Manila but you don't know how or where to bed a provincial girl? Bola bola.Where did I state I don't know how or where to bed a provincial girl? Please, show me. Me thinks you're reading things that aren't there.
I was turned on to Dumaguete's scene by a middle-aged Floridian who lives there. No campus roaming involved. Of course if you believe I wrote that, again please show me.
Someone asked where one could find "cute GF material girls with real innocence who are still fresh and not spoiled". With a large number of schools attracting students from the provinces and a small population of 120, 000 I found Duma better than the larger cities for that type of girl. Personally, it doesn't bother me if the girl isn't fresh and spoiled, so I hang my hat in the NCR. I like the big city.
Stroker Ace88
01-02-13, 04:33
Yeah I like the picture of this guy roaming the campuses in Dumaguete propositioning the coeds. Won't be a happy ending at all for him at all unless he likes getting it in a Negros jail. This the same guy from the Manila thread claiming he's banging some girl in her condo while people at Diamond Hotel are watching. Let's see. You can bang a rich pinay in a big condo in Manila but you don't know how or where to bed a provincial girl? Bola bola.My thoughts exactly. There was a guy who posted awhile back he made business cards that explained he was willing to support a few students in exchange for sex. The card included his name, CP# and he planned to pass them out around a University or two. Discretion is the better part of valour and make a mistake by handing a card to the daughter or niece of a barangay captain, or local politician and the guy will rot in jail for a few weeks to restore some sensibility.
As to the condo, pure pulp fiction.
You didn't say you couldn't bed a provincial girl. I did. As per the "middle aged" Florida guy, you've probably been reading Dru during his stay in Dumaguete. He's not even 30. Very boring stuff unless you're into eating junk food, and I'd go Pagcor and bet on the odds that you've never been within 100 miles of Dumaguete. BTW, neither have I.
You didn't say you couldn't bed a provincial girl. I did. As per the "middle aged" Florida guy, you've probably been reading Dru during his stay in Dumaguete. He's not even 30. Very boring stuff unless you're into eating junk food, and I'd go Pagcor and bet on the odds that you've never been within 100 miles of Dumaguete. BTW, neither have I.Never heard of him. My mate is in his 50's. I've been to Dumaguete three times. You ought to visit it someday. You just might then learn what you're so certain about.
. I remember, when my asawa was in nursing school, going often to pick her up and getting endless smiles and offers of assistance from some of the female students, and it would have been a simple matter to have gotten some phone numbers. Even then, I wasn't particularly dashing, young, or tall, so I doubt it was my looks that engendered the smiles. GEMaybe they could see through your wallet. LOL
Just to see what it's all about I joined FilipinaCupid.
I hope I'm wrong but Filipinas are the most vacuous women I have ever met. Highly recommended for anyone visiting though. Ample pickings.
Hart David
01-04-13, 12:47
Hi HD,
I like your report man. I think we go after similar kind of girls.
You spent 1. 5yrs in Philipines or returned within 1. 5yrs from your last visit?
Well, I am planing my first trip and don't know which cities I should visit. You seem to have experiences in multiple cities!
What city / town do you recommend to have more chances to find cute GF material girls with real innocence who are still fresh and not spoiled?
And I don't care for bars but I sure miss being near a nice clean sandy beach!
BS.Sure mate, will be glad to assit, I was there three times with in 1. 5 years and stayed one month.
Clean beaches and Nice girls does not go along in phili unfortunately, so you might need to find your pinay first and take her to nice beach / vacation spot. I never tried boracay and will never as well. Loved Bohol and Panglao beach, white sand if you like that, I took one of my favorite nurses there twice!
Malapascua is three hours away from cebu city (north) quite a distance, I took a lovely girl I flew down from Cagayan deOro, great body, great sex and lovely ass! Just 20 years old college student I met on cupid, absolutely romantic. One of the tightest bodies I enjoyed in my entire mongering career. Had a diving trip with her! Real nice beaches and peaceful in malapascua, relatively cheap.
MY pic of places for nice unspoiled girls are cebu and leyte. But this is a hit and miss. If you are lucky you will get one or two gems as I found out. GIrls from provices are dirt poor and innocent, very accommodating. I have a GF in cebu and leyte, I simply cannot forget them!
So, in nutshell, I will stick to cebu and leyte, province girls, little hard to bring them to city, but worth it.
Treat them well, you will have time of your life. I wil be returning to cebu in late summe0 for another adventure!
Love filipines and curretn; ly suffering from PPWS (post phili withdrwals syndrome)
Cheers.
David
Hart David
01-05-13, 06:17
Just to see what it's all about I joined FilipinaCupid.
I hope I'm wrong but Filipinas are the most vacuous women I have ever met. Highly recommended for anyone visiting though. Ample pickings.99% of pinay I met belong to this group, so I have to agree with you. I will leave a margin of error to 1, I did not meet the intelligent, vivid thoughtful women that you will find in some of the other parts of the world, in my experience, carribean, canadian, american as well as australian, not to forget some women from subcontinent. But I have to admit we usually do not encounter, more sophisticated middle class or women from higher echelons of the society when we monger, don't we?
Cheers,
Colomba
Just a quick addition to what David has already writte. I like to get to a beach as well. From Cebu, I think the 1. 5 hr ferry plus 30 min ride to Alona beach (Bohol) is the best bet. I recently made my 3rd trip to Moalboal (SW Cebu island). I think a bus or van is 2. 5 hours and not very pleasant. I'll try to put up a field report later on.
Sure mate, will be glad to assit, I was there three times with in 1. 5 years and stayed one month.
Clean beaches and Nice girls does not go along in phili unfortunately, so you might need to find your pinay first and take her to nice beach / vacation spot. I never tried boracay and will never as well. Loved Bohol and Panglao beach, white sand if you like that, I took one of my favorite nurses there twice!
Malapascua is three hours away from cebu city (north) quite a distance, I took a lovely girl I flew down from Cagayan deOro, great body, great sex and lovely ass! Just 20 years old college student I met on cupid, absolutely romantic. One of the tightest bodies I enjoyed in my entire mongering career. Had a diving trip with her! Real nice beaches and peaceful in malapascua, relatively cheap.
MY pic of places for nice unspoiled girls are cebu and leyte. But this is a hit and miss. If you are lucky you will get one or two gems as I found out. GIrls from provices are dirt poor and innocent, very accommodating. I have a GF in cebu and leyte, I simply cannot forget them!
So, in nutshell, I will stick to cebu and leyte, province girls, little hard to bring them to city, but worth it.
Treat them well, you will have time of your life. I wil be returning to cebu in late summe0 for another adventure!
Love filipines and curretn; ly suffering from PPWS (post phili withdrwals syndrome)
Cheers.
David
GoodEnough
01-05-13, 23:50
Just to see what it's all about I joined FilipinaCupid.
I hope I'm wrong but Filipinas are the most vacuous women I have ever met. Highly recommended for anyone visiting though. Ample pickings.Acouple of days ago, I was having lunch in the Hard Rock Café in Makati, with a friend who is also a long-term resident of the country. One of our major topicsof discussion was the overall vacuity of the entire culture, at least as judged from a more Western perspective. The term he used to characterize the place is "banal," and I think it's an accurate descriptor.
It's not that the women per se are "vacuous;" it's the entire culture. I've found this to be true even amon thoroughly upper middle class people (not just women) , even those educated at the more exclusive universities. This appears to be a culture that doesn't encourage widespread intellectual engagement in much of anything. Most of the well educated Filipinos I know, for example, never read for pleasure-aside from mindless movie magazines-are blissfully unaware of international events, and in general are intellectually torpid. Given some of the recent materials I've read about the general decline of Education in the West, perhaps Europe, the US, Canada, etc. Are regressing toward this mean as well, but I don't tink we're quite there yet.
There's no great literary corpus here, and the same is true for fine arts and music; no history of international scholarship and no groundbreakiing science. Other than a couple of boxers who excell internationnally, the organized ssports here arenot close to competitive standards.
The bottom line for me is that this place is pretty much of a cultural / intellectual wasteland, with the rare exceptions found in those who have received advanced degrees abroad.
GE
BrasilSoccer0
01-06-13, 01:00
HD,
Thanks for the response.
I been actually researching Damaguete for the "true non-pro innocent GFE"
Just looked at the CEBU thread today (tricky to find) and already see it's better for me than the Damaguete one.
The Cebu link seems to be more involved and bigger than other ones which helps me since it will be my 1st visit.
I'll just keep reading and maybe a month before my visit will open a DIA to line up dates.
Thanks again my friend! And who knows we may cross baths as I am thinking to head out there on late may.
BS.
Sure mate, will be glad to assit, I was there three times with in 1. 5 years and stayed one month.
Clean beaches and Nice girls does not go along in phili unfortunately, so you might need to find your pinay first and take her to nice beach / vacation spot. I never tried boracay and will never as well. Loved Bohol and Panglao beach, white sand if you like that, I took one of my favorite nurses there twice!
Malapascua is three hours away from cebu city (north) quite a distance, I took a lovely girl I flew down from Cagayan deOro, great body, great sex and lovely ass! Just 20 years old college student I met on cupid, absolutely romantic. One of the tightest bodies I enjoyed in my entire mongering career. Had a diving trip with her! Real nice beaches and peaceful in malapascua, relatively cheap.
MY pic of places for nice unspoiled girls are cebu and leyte. But this is a hit and miss. If you are lucky you will get one or two gems as I found out. GIrls from provices are dirt poor and innocent, very accommodating. I have a GF in cebu and leyte, I simply cannot forget them!
So, in nutshell, I will stick to cebu and leyte, province girls, little hard to bring them to city, but worth it.
Treat them well, you will have time of your life. I wil be returning to cebu in late summe0 for another adventure!
Love filipines and curretn; ly suffering from PPWS (post phili withdrwals syndrome)
Cheers.
David
Hart David
01-06-13, 08:08
Acouple of days ago, I was having lunch in the Hard Rock Café in Makati, with a friend who is also a long-term resident of the country. One of our major topicsof discussion was the overall vacuity of the entire culture, at least as judged from a more Western perspective. The term he used to characterize the place is "banal," and I think it's an accurate descriptor.
It's not that the women per se are "vacuous;" it's the entire culture. I've found this to be true even amon thoroughly upper middle class people (not just women) , even those educated at the more exclusive universities. This appears to be a culture that doesn't encourage widespread intellectual engagement in much of anything. Most of the well educated Filipinos I know, for example, never read for pleasure-aside from mindless movie magazines-are blissfully unaware of international events, and in general are intellectually torpid. Given some of the recent materials I've read about the general decline of Education in the West, perhaps Europe, the US, Canada, etc. Are regressing toward this mean as well, but I don't tink we're quite there yet.
There's no great literary corpus here, and the same is true for fine arts and music; no history of international scholarship and no groundbreakiing science. Other than a couple of boxers who excell internationnally, the organized ssports here arenot close to competitive standards.
The bottom line for me is that this place is pretty much of a cultural / intellectual wasteland, with the rare exceptions found in those who have received advanced degrees abroad.
GEWith my limited knowledge and experience, I have to agree! The old motto applies here, the great three F's. I am contemplating living there, for some time, but recently I realized it will be a disaster as my life revolves around intellectuals and academics! I will be pretty much bored quickly and will be lost in "intellectual Wasteland"
SO I gave up the idea!
I am planing to bring my favorite pinay for few months down under, so I can focus on my work!
Cheers
GoodEnough
01-06-13, 23:46
With my limited knowledge and experience, I have to agree! The old motto applies here, the great three F's. I am contemplating living there, for some time, but recently I realized it will be a disaster as my life revolves around intellectuals and academics! I will be pretty much bored quickly and will be lost in "intellectual Wasteland"
SO I gave up the idea!
I am planing to bring my favorite pinay for few months down under, so I can focus on my work!
CheersHD, the situation is not quite as dire as I may have implied. Depending on where you choose to live-and particularly in the larger cities-there are reasonably large expat communities that include lots of academics and other very well trained people, many of whom work on various types of development projects here. My circle of friends includes several ex-professors, and lots of other Ph. D-level academics engaged in various types of research / development projects. For me, relationships with like-minded expats is a critical survival strategy. Conversely, my circle of local friends (and I mean close friends) is quite limited, as the overlap of common interests and experiences is just too small. I reiterate what I'vee said several times before; that it's possible to create quite a good life for yourself here if you give some thought to youor needs, and how to structure your life around those needs.
GE
My trip to Phils is coming up in 2 weeks and I have a full slate lined up, but sometimes I can't help stopping by DIA when I get bored. Last night a pretty 21 year old messaged me out of the blue. She wanted to talk on Skype. When I logged in, I found her in bed by herself with the lights low, obviously hiding her naughty conversations from family. She asked if I would mind seeing her nipples. I agreed. She took off her top and played with those for awhile and then asked if I would mind seeing her below too. I expected that she would make the usual request to send cash by paypal to see a "show." She never said anything about money. She just said that was was super horny and couldn't sleep and asked if I would mind watching her play with herself. I agreed. Off came the rest of the clothes. She got quite wet and then worked 1, 2, and then 3 fingers in. After a big finish she looked sleepy and happy. She showed me her sopping wet panties with some satisfaction and then bid me goodnight. Light went off and she was sound asleep in no time. No doubt you veterans have had similar things happen to you but it was a first for me.
Soapy Smith
01-07-13, 09:16
Last night a pretty 21 year old messaged me out of the blue. She wanted to talk on Skype. When I logged in, I found her in bed by herself with the lights low, obviously hiding her naughty conversations from family. She asked if I would mind seeing her nipples. I agreed. She took off her top and played with those for awhile and then asked if I would mind seeing her below too. I expected that she would make the usual request to send cash by paypal to see a "show." She never said anything about money. She just said that was was super horny and couldn't sleep and asked if I would mind watching her play with herself. I agreed. Off came the rest of the clothes. She got quite wet and then worked 1, 2, and then 3 fingers in. After a big finish she looked sleepy and happy. She showed me her sopping wet panties with some satisfaction and then bid me goodnight. Light went off and she was sound asleep in no time. No doubt you veterans have had similar things happen to you but it was a first for me.Her blouse is nicely color-coordinated with her inner workings, but you should probably expect that future communications will get down to business about what she expects in return.
Haha, I didn't notice the color coordination until you mentioned it. I was rather distracted acted the time.
Sorry for the double-post here. Skip, your predictive skills are finely honed from years of mongering. As you anticipated, she contacted me today with a portfolio of sexy pics and some creative ideas about how we will spend our time. We agreed on some suitable help with her tuition and set up a date. Hope I have a good reports and a nice portfolio of pics of my own to share soon.
Member #4491
01-08-13, 10:15
Sorry for the double-post here. Skip, your predictive skills are finely honed from years of mongering. As you anticipated, she contacted me today with a portfolio of sexy pics and some creative ideas about how we will spend our time. We agreed on some suitable help with her tuition and set up a date. Hope I have a good reports and a nice portfolio of pics of my own to share soon.At least she understands the value of good marketing. It is great to stumble over a girl that is truly horny and want to have an orgasm with someone watching. Happens to me every now and then, but very rarely the girl will be the one that initiates the cyber sex session. After a month or so of trying, one of my teen girlfriends finally got her cam and she promised to fuck herself with a banana for me. What a learning curve! From virgin (real one and not the fake "cherries" many seems to come across) to all holes deflowered and fruit lover in little over a year. And she actually likes this newly discovered world of pleasure quite a lot, but only secretly. Her provincial family still thinks she is a nerdy little student who is only holding hand with her middle aged boyfriend.
Have fun on your vacation. Wazoo!
Barba
Member #4491
01-09-13, 03:51
I met this student in need when she just turned 18. A sweet young girl that I always try to see if I am in the country.
19 years old today, less than 5 feet, less than 40 kilos and Barba has deflowered all her holes thoroughly. God must exist after all.
Sorry for the lousy quality, guys. Forgot to change the resolution in my recording program.
Makeupaname
01-09-13, 07:35
Tip for finding filipinas on DIA in other countries. Use the advance search with religion as Catholic
Received an interest message on FilipinoCupid from "J (redacted)", a pretty 22-year-old voco graduate who's full-time unemployed in the NCR. Her profile's basic info says she's looking for a male, 20-50.
She's seeking:
im looking for a HONEST AND FAITHFUL woman is who SERIOUS about life and finding a life partner. I am not here to send you money and just get you into the USA. I want a serious girlfriend who can lead to marriage someday. I DO NOT want a girl who will remain on this site or other dating sites after she tells me she only likes me. I want a woman who i can TRUST 100% even when i am not there. Please do not sneak around my back and continue to meet other guys AFTER we decide we want to be a couple. Do not lie.im not aksing for much.just a honest and faithful, trusting woman!!! cant wait to start!! sincerly LOVING ,honest,, beliving in GOD. REspectfull.
Sweetie, if you're going to copy a profile, why a bloke's? And a paranoid's to boot.
Stroker Ace88
01-10-13, 06:08
Sweetie, if you're going to copy a profile, why a bloke's? And a paranoid's to boot.You just revealed how little you actually know about filipinas.
The message on her profile was originally posted on her foreigner x-bf's profile. It means he was serious about her but in the end figured out they did not have the same long-term goals. The filipina cut and pasted it on her profile as some kind of stalking-revenge-tampo thing.
She sounds perfect for you Hut.
FruitNinja
01-10-13, 06:40
I met this student in need when she just turned 18. A sweet young girl that I always try to see if I am in the country.
19 years old today, less than 5 feet, less than 40 kilos and Barba has deflowered all her holes thoroughly. God must exist after all.
Sorry for the lousy quality, guys. Forgot to change the resolution in my recording program.I leave for Angeles in the morning. Oh yeah!
FreebieFan
01-10-13, 07:44
At least she understands the value of good marketing. It is great to stumble over a girl that is truly horny and want to have an orgasm with someone watching. Happens to me every now and then, but very rarely the girl will be the one that initiates the cyber sex session. After a month or so of trying, one of my teen girlfriends finally got her cam and she promised to fuck herself with a banana for me! From virgin to all holes deflowered and fruit lover in little over a year. And she actually likes this newly discovered world of pleasure quite a lot, but only secretly. Her provincial family still thinks she is a nerdy little student who is only holding hand with her middle aged boyfriend.
BarbaGone thru the same experience. Feb last year and me and an 18 year old virgin meet for first time with the expected results. Fast forward 11 months and yesterday me her and her friend are having lots of fun in a room togther. If you saw her you would think she was just a sweet sweet student, helpful at home etc. Once the door is locked she's become a hungry for all action girl. Change is good!
It's aggravating the way these gals will waste your time for no good reason.
Dia lj_091588.
This one sent me several texts during my time in country, back in MNL I suggested we meet for lunch, she said yes, said she's getting ready, I confirmed, then. Not a word, not a cancellation, nothing.
Now her profile says she's in a relationship. X
What amazing racks on those last two! Something like that runs of the risk of making me become another "lost in Asia" case.
It's aggravating the way these gals will waste your time for no good reason.
Dia lj_091588.
This one sent me several texts during my time in country, back in MNL I suggested we meet for lunch, she said yes, said she's getting ready, I confirmed, then. Not a word, not a cancellation, nothing.
Now her profile says she's in a relationship. XThat sucks. Goes with the territory, of course.
She found her "dreaming guy". He'll soon wake up and move on, and she'll be back. She hasn't closed her profile.
The filipina cut and pasted it on her profile as some kind of stalking-revenge-tampo thing.A stalker, you say. Hmmm. Having experienced how you shadow me here I reckon you're best qualified to know a stalker when you see one.
Maybe RIck Rock is "lost in asia", this is the chat room thread, not the photo chat thread. LOL.
What amazing racks on those last two! Something like that runs of the risk of making me become another "lost in Asia" case.
Her provincial family still thinks she is a nerdy little student who is only holding hand with her middle aged boyfriend.
BarbaAll families know the situation. They all know she is having sex with one or many guys. For them " whatever " as long as the girl is happy.
My last trip to Manila I had a DIA girl stay with me few days. She told me that one of her friends had not sex for a long time and she would like to stay with us one night. Girls was cute and friendly. Her father and her mother kept on calling her phone atleast 15-20 times whole night trying to find out where she is and whom she is with. It seems she sneaked out of the house telling her brother only saying she will spend the night with a friend.
She said her parents are very strict and she is not allowed to go anywhere by herself. Not allowed overnight stay and she had to be back home by 10PM if she goes shopping with her friends. She said she lost her virginity only 6 months ago with her schoolmate and they had sex only couple of times. Her father and mother have good jobs and she looks well dressed and did not accept any money. I can imagine status of mind of her father and mother all night. Most likely they thought she is staying with her Phi BF. Meanwhile we were fucking each other the whole night me and two girls. Next day we went to Robinsons and saw a movie, dinner, some shopping with both girls openly kissing me and holding hands. Luckily her parents lived in Taguig and she was enjoying her free time. Given thechoice she said she would like to stay with me another night but was really afraid of her parents. This situation is kind of rare.
Most parents know when their girl is staying with a foreigner. Some even call their parents and want you to talk to them. For province girls it is a big deal to be with a foreigner. Few even wanted me to go to their hometown during fiesta time. I am sure apart from showing off she thought I will foot the bill so that all her family will have a good time.
Mr Enternational
01-10-13, 17:27
It's aggravating the way these gals will waste your time for no good reason.
This one sent me several texts during my time in country, back in MNL I suggested we meet for lunch, she said yes, said she's getting ready, I confirmed, then. Not a word, not a cancellation, nothing. XThat is the exact reason I don't deal with American women any more. My time is valuable and I don't have enough of it to deal with that kind of bullshit.
Member #4491
01-10-13, 19:29
All families know the situation. They all know she is having sex with one or many guys.Yea, I was thinking of changing "thinks" to "pretends", but my story got more colorful using "thinks".
Sammon is that "all" as in all families in the whole world or just all families in the Philippines? Or just certain part of the Philippines? Does families in Manila differ from say Davao, CDO or Gensan in this respect?
B.
Wicked Roger
01-11-13, 00:20
Few even wanted me to go to their hometown during fiesta time. I am sure apart from showing off she thought I will foot the bill so that all her family will have a good time.For sure you will Sammon and be paraded and shown off to all and sundry LO.
Happened to a good friend who ended up twice footing the bill for a 'family' of 27 in the girls hometown and a smaller 'family' (of 15) at the hotel (buffet time aka pigs to the trough and lots of doggy bgs to take the food home to show off to those in the neighbourhood).
He felt like a "piece of meat" albeit with a nice ATM and credit card LOL (andf a substantial bill at the end)
Mr Enternational
01-11-13, 02:02
For sure you will Sammon and be paraded and shown off to all and sundry LO.
Happened to a good friend who ended up twice footing the bill for a 'family' of 27 in the girls hometown and a smaller 'family' (of 15) at the hotel (buffet time aka pigs to the trough and lots of doggy bgs to take the food home to show off to those in the neighbourhood).
He felt like a "piece of meat" albeit with a nice ATM and credit card LOL (andf a substantial bill at the end) I can never understand why these guys are scared to say no to moochers. Separate checks please!
FreebieFan
01-11-13, 02:31
I can never understand why these guys are scared to say no to moochers. Separate checks please!The family is all smiles at you. When the bill comes the family continues to smile at you (or conveniently run to bathroom, or have calls to make ). The girl you are porking or planning to pork smiles especially sweetly and says something like " would you mind honey, the family is poor and they really appreciate you looking after them ". And so you, the newb, reach in and get out the blue notes with an "aw shucks" grin.
Not realising that next week another you will be sitting in same place going thru the same routine.
See it in every restaurant over and over again.
Found myself in this situation just once where a young honey invited her family. Half way thru dinner that was supposed to be for four but became seven people went to bathroom, gave the waiter enough money for half the dinner bill and walked out.
FreebieFan
01-11-13, 02:40
Acouple of days ago, I was having lunch in the Hard Rock Café in Makati, with a friend who is also a long-term resident of the country. One of our major topicsof discussion was the overall vacuity of the entire culture, at least as judged from a more Western perspective. The term he used to characterize the place is "banal," and I think it's an accurate descriptor.
It's not that the women per se are "vacuous;" it's the entire culture.
GETotally agree with your comments, from years of observation.
Its the fact that its easier to send an abbreviated sms that to actually try to talk.
Its the fact that most adverts are aimed at the "beauty"side of things espeically the hair.
Its the fact that book stores contain shelf fulls on Mills and Boon / Danielle Steel type crap (which by the way creates the oft repeated phrases " I want man will love me forever" my soulmate search goes on " etcetc.
The total overdrive efforts for Christmas and Valentines day.
The way the mall has become the centre of family entertainment.
Even the politics (with the exception of Miriams verbally fantastic but totally mad outbursts) and all aimed at proving power rather than actualy achieving much.
I enjoy the place. But vacuous, banal, lacking in depth. Spot on!
Wait a minute. You mean to tell me a country occupied and subdued for 7 centuries by foreign powers that had no interests but financial earnings lacks in culture? Gee, what a fucking revelation.
I got the next month off and I'm so sick of the begging and corruption there that I might just drive from Chicago to LA and enjoy myself both ways. That shit in Phils is getting old. Of course I have part of March too, so maybe just a hit and run out there
Mr Enternational
01-11-13, 05:38
The family is all smiles at you. When the bill comes the family continues to smile at you (or conveniently run to bathroom, or have calls to make ). The girl you are porking or planning to pork smiles especially sweetly and says something like " would you mind honey, the family is poor and they really appreciate you looking after them ". And so you, the newb, reach in and get out the blue notes with an "aw shucks" grin.
Not realising that next week another you will be sitting in same place going thru the same routine.
See it in every restaurant over and over again.
Found myself in this situation just once where a young honey invited her family. Half way thru dinner that was supposed to be for four but became seven people went to bathroom, gave the waiter enough money for half the dinner bill and walked out.LOL. Good thing I know how to smile too and say no way at the same time. And I can't afford it because the next week I will be sitting in the same place with another girl. So how many times could I do that until I was put into the poor house?
LOL. Good thing I know how to smile too and say no way at the same time. And I can't afford it because the next week I will be sitting in the same place with another girl. So how many times could I do that until I was put into the poor house?How about saying with a big smile: Sorry I can't afford it because I already paid all I had to the girl I sat with last week.
FreebieFan
01-11-13, 08:03
Wait a minute. You mean to tell me a country occupied and subdued for 7 centuries by foreign powers that had no interests but financial earnings lacks in culture? Gee, what a fucking revelation.Hold onto the reins a little tighter Ricky. That horse of yours is galloping away. Theres a lot of countries that were occupied that have a thriving local culture, India being one such example. Or maybe you prefer to review the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire or even the Austrian Empire. The countries in which they occupied have a well preserved culture. Or try Oman, or Papua, Malaysia, Jamaica, Egypt. And the list goes on. Indeed, maybe these are revelations to you.
Wicked Roger
01-11-13, 08:38
I can never understand why these guys are scared to say no to moochers. Separate checks please!Because the girl is cute, as FF said you will want to pork her (or pork her more after the meal) and the family all know this, and you are in a restaurant with lots of them who are stuffed to the gills and have heard all the poor luck / poverty stories for the last hour etc.
I have done it once but only 4 people and there was an outcry but I had to do it (long story why etc)
Hold onto the reins a little tighter Ricky. That horse of yours is galloping away. Theres a lot of countries that were occupied that have a thriving local culture, India being one such example. Or maybe you prefer to review the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire or even the Austrian Empire. The countries in which they occupied have a well preserved culture. Or try Oman, or Papua, Malaysia, Jamaica, Egypt. And the list goes on. Indeed, maybe these are revelations to you.India was occupied for 7 centuries by three separate imperial powers and endured mass forced religious conversion? Don't think so. But yeah India was torn apart too, and remains one of the largest hell holes on earth, especially when you consider Pakistan and Bangladesh which were part of the place before the Brits butchered it up. Let me know how much stimulating conversation and modern literature you find in Dhaka.
Nope. No country comes even close. The closest parallel of another people on earth would probably be the enslaved Africans brought to the United States, and you can see how well they're doing.
And of course the real joke is that the Philippines is called vapid while in the United States the most popular "culture" is evidenced in things like reality TV, American idol and the Kardashians.
What you say about the Philippines is repeated tenfold about the US and the UK by my friends and family in Paris.
Jeez,
For a moment, I thought that you were talking about Australia. Vacuous crap, reality TV, trending the Kardashians, major news events include salad recipes, beauty culture, celeb culture.
G
Totally agree with your comments, from years of observation.
Its the fact that its easier to send an abbreviated sms that to actually try to talk.
Its the fact that most adverts are aimed at the "beauty"side of things espeically the hair.
Its the fact that book stores contain shelf fulls on Mills and Boon / Danielle Steel type crap (which by the way creates the oft repeated phrases " I want man will love me forever" my soulmate search goes on " etcetc.
The total overdrive efforts for Christmas and Valentines day.
The way the mall has become the centre of family entertainment.
Even the politics (with the exception of Miriams verbally fantastic but totally mad outbursts) and all aimed at proving power rather than actualy achieving much.
I enjoy the place. But vacuous, banal, lacking in depth. Spot on!
. Because a number of Filipino Cupid ladies, after giving some other location, say they are actually in Ghana. I smell scams.
Also, several send emails claiming to be visiting where I live in the USA Interestingly, when I joined Cupid, my credit card company called to verify before processing the charge. They said Cupid is an escort agency.
Yea, I was thinking of changing "thinks" to "pretends", but my story got more colorful using "thinks".
Sammon is that "all" as in all families in the whole world or just all families in the Philippines? Or just certain part of the Philippines? Does families in Manila differ from say Davao, CDO or Gensan in this respect?
B.Cannot generalise reaction from parents wherever they live. Some girls asked me to keep quiet when they were on the phone with family and friends while others want me to talk to their family. Generall I avoid this but how to say no. I would just say hello to them and make the conversation short. Poor girls do not care. Girls from well to do families do not want their family to know. I have had girls from all over Phi. I send them a ticket to meet me. Some lie and say her friend sent the ticket and she is going to find a job.
As I am not interested in any committment I tell the girls the same. It is their choice if they want their family to know or not. One 18 year old girl in Cebu stays with her brother babysitting. Her brother accompanied her to the hotel but did not come inside. He just wanted to make sure girl is not lost. Surprising isn't it? Do not know what she said to her brother. Her mother knew it too and the girl requested 500 pesos to send to her mother. Obviously it is not the first time she did it. I do not delve into their past history.
Cool Traveler
01-11-13, 18:50
[Found myself in this situation just once where a young honey invited her family. Half way thru dinner that was supposed to be for four but became seven people went to bathroom, gave the waiter enough money for half the dinner bill and walked out.[/QUOTE]I have one better than you Freebie. I made arrangement for this cutie to meet me at the airport. She turned up with 7 other people. Cousins, uncles and aunts. She asked me to get them rooms at the Dusit. I just smiled. Told her it is better if they went home. Which was in Pampanga. I gave her 1000 Pesos and asked her to leave too. Got into a taxi and had the taxi driver drive off. I felt very bad for doing that. Checked in, went to Spicy Fingers and drowned my stupidity over a couple of beers.
Traveler.
P. S. I will be in the Makati area if anyone cares for a beer.
Member #4491
01-11-13, 19:46
Cannot generalise reaction from parents wherever they live.Sammon, I was just being a bit ironic since you made general statements based on your own experiences alone. I know you mean well so thank you for sharing your thoughts in this. I have been more than 25 times in the Philippines and spent years and not months of accumulated time there. Had sex with hundreds of girls of all categories and ages, including real teenage virgins that never said a word to a non Philippino before they stumbled over Barba. I had relations that lasted for years and some that lasted for minutes. I visited families in the jungle and in fancy upper class estates, and had angry brothers and cousins stalking my hotel in crappy cars. I am not saying I know more than the next guy, but sometimes I think that people here are very fast to make statements and judgements about pinays and their families, based on a rather narrow version of females. There are all types, also in this country. The distribution might be pushed, but you will find all types of girls and families here, just as in any other country. My two cent for the sake of not generalizing this lovely country to the point of resentment and condescendance. What we see if often the reflection of what we are. In the long run we have what we deserve to have, at least until we change and deserve something else, so also when chasing tail in the Philippines. Instant karma is in continuous effect, even if we choose to not see the pattern and accept the responsibility! Just look around you next time in a mall and see how all the corrupt pigs are paired with a equally corrupt sow, and the ones with some glow or integrity will have a lovely little spark of life next to him.
Barba
Mr Enternational
01-11-13, 20:08
. Because a number of Filipino Cupid ladies, after giving some other location, say they are actually in Ghana. I smell scams.
Also, several send emails claiming to be visiting where I live in the USA Interestingly, when I joined Cupid, my credit card company called to verify before processing the charge. They said Cupid is an escort agency.I have never been on Filipino Cupid, but I have frequented Latin American and Brazil Cupid. Nobody ever called to verify anything. It is an Australian company and my credit card is from the USA.
Of course the people in Ghana run the scam. Whenever I am there and try to log on to one of the cupids they automatically block me unless I log on using a proxy. And they will not remove the block until I leave that country.
Mr Enternational
01-11-13, 20:11
One 18 year old girl in Cebu stays with her brother babysitting. Her brother accompanied her to the hotel but did not come inside. He just wanted to make sure girl is not lost. Surprising isn't it? Do not know what she said to her brother.I would have gone in and cursed you out for trying to fuck my sister.
Member #4491
01-11-13, 21:14
Yesterdays chat on FB with a young, cute single mother. This was after I stated that I prefer someone that is not a single mother, but will be glad to see a pregnant girl for sex.
Rose.
If you want I will give you my friend, !
Barba.
OK. How old is she? Pictures?
Rose.
She's my auntie and she's pregnant n0w and 30years old, she's l0oking serious relati0nship are you? N0 pictures.
Rose.
Or if you want my m0m, n0 husband my m0m have 4boys baby and 6girls!
Tough choice for Barba!
Tally Wacker
01-11-13, 23:10
I used Filipina Cupid while I was in Phil and had no problems with it being blocked. I also used my Yahoo Messenger a few times while I was in Phil and when I returned to USA I was blocked out of my YM. They said my account was recently used at another location. Since I never set up a way to reset my password I can no longer access my YM. Unfortanately I lost a few good contact.
I have never been on Filipino Cupid, but I have frequented Latin American and Brazil Cupid. Nobody ever called to verify anything. It is an Australian company and my credit card is from the USA.
Of course the people in Ghana run the scam. Whenever I am there and try to log on to one of the cupids they automatically block me unless I log on using a proxy. And they will not remove the block until I leave that country.
GoodEnough
01-11-13, 23:23
And of course the real joke is that the Philippines is called vapid while in the United States the most popular "culture" is evidenced in things like reality TV, American idol and the Kardashians.
What you say about the Philippines is repeated tenfold about the US and the UK by my friends and family in Paris.Having lived in Paris for a verylong time, I can understand exactly what Rick means. To a certain extent, the pap that passes for popular culture in the US isn't new; it's just assumed new forms. This is after all, the country that invented the sit com and the soap opera. For me however, it's all in the company you keep, and the fact is that in the US or the UK it's extremely easy to find multiple sub cultures that are engaging, inhabited by thoughtful, interesting people, and perhaps that's the major difference. Here in the Philippines, there simply aren't any equuivalents, or if there are I haven't found them. Maybe it's because in the West, and in Japan and China, there's a huge corpus of aesthetic culture that includes art, music, literature and philosophy and that's passed on and added to from generation to generation. There's no parallel here, nor are there anu viable indigenous cultural outlets for expressing them. Try finding a good jazz club for example, in Manila, or a major art museum, or decent theatrical performances. Try finding equivalents to the Louvre, or the Met, or the Tate Gallery.
Perhaps the difference is one of degree. That is, despite the agreed vacuity of American popular culture, plentiful alternatives exist for the large minority that seeks alternatives. To me, the "whys" of the situation don't matter. I don't care if the absence of cultural alternatives was caused by colonialism, a poor educational system, corruption or other factors; it's the absence that bothers me.
GE
I met another DIA girl a few days ago in my local nearby mall, ostensibly for a chat and a coffee.
She has said she had not previously met anyone from DIA, and I was her first foreigner blah blah.
After a while I suggested maybe we could go somewhere more private.
After the usual protestations that "this is our first date (sic)" and "I don't know blah blah" she agreed and we headed to Sogo.
Once in the room she proceeded to "shower first", and produced from her bag toothpaste, toothbrush and Listerine mouthwash, Lactacyd (pussy wash) , her own soap and a fresh pair of panties.
An excellent session followed.
It made me chuckle about just how gullible they must think we are. Whilst I acknowledge that pinays are very fastitidious about cleanliness etc and that it may be perfectly reasonable to carry around all these accoutrements in the bag, it was hardly the sort of thing that a young, single mother, poor and without much disposable income would have in her bag.
The takeaway from my experience?
The contents of her bag is another criterion to use to establish whether a woman is an "innocent, naive freelancer" or someone who plays the game very well.
None of this will surprise most of you but it gave me a laugh. She obviously didn't realise that it was so blatantly obvious that she had come prepared for sex, even if she initially protested her innocence.
FreebieFan
01-12-13, 03:37
I met another DIA girl a few days ago in my local nearby mall, ostensibly for a chat and a coffee.
She has said she had not previously met anyone from DIA, and I was her first foreigner blah blah.
After a while I suggested maybe we could go somewhere more private.
After the usual protestations that "this is our first date (sic)" and "I don't know blah blah" she agreed and we headed to Sogo.
Once in the room she proceeded to "shower first", and produced from her bag toothpaste, toothbrush and Listerine mouthwash, Lactacyd (pussy wash) , her own soap and a fresh pair of panties.
An excellent session followed.
It made me chuckle about just how gullible they must think we are. Whilst I acknowledge that pinays are very fastitidious about cleanliness etc and that it may be perfectly reasonable to carry around all these accoutrements in the bag, it was hardly the sort of thing that a young, single mother, poor and without much disposable income would have in her bag.
The takeaway from my experience?
The contents of her bag is another criterion to use to establish whether a woman is an "innocent, naive freelancer" or someone who plays the game very well.
None of this will surprise most of you but it gave me a laugh. She obviously didn't realise that it was so blatantly obvious that she had come prepared for sex, even if she initially protested her innocence.My last trip I met over 10 girls (I think). I know at least 7 said I was the first foriegner they had met, with that buter wouldn't melt in their mouth look. The youngest onme, at 18 said I was the 4th foriegner she had met. I asked her what she did with the others. Repied " bonding". Well she and me had some naked bonding!
FreebieFan
01-12-13, 03:40
India was occupied for 7 centuries by three separate imperial powers and endured mass forced religious conversion? Don't think so. But yeah India was torn apart too, and remains one of the largest hell holes on earth, especially when you consider Pakistan and Bangladesh which were part of the place before the Brits butchered it up. Let me know how much stimulating conversation and modern literature you find in Dhaka.
Nope. No country comes even close. The closest parallel of another people on earth would probably be the enslaved Africans brought to the United States, and you can see how well they're doing.
And of course the real joke is that the Philippines is called vapid while in the United States the most popular "culture" is evidenced in things like reality TV, American idol and the Kardashians.
What you say about the Philippines is repeated tenfold about the US and the UK by my friends and family in Paris.Maybe Paris might be a good place for you to go Rick. Just a thought. Enjoy the rude uncivil and opinionated masses. I think you would fit in well there.
Having lived in Paris for a verylong time, I can understand exactly what Rick means. To a certain extent, the pap that passes for popular culture in the US isn't new; it's just assumed new forms. This is after all, the country that invented the sit com and the soap opera. For me however, it's all in the company you keep, and the fact is that in the US or the UK it's extremely easy to find multiple sub cultures that are engaging, inhabited by thoughtful, interesting people, and perhaps that's the major difference. Here in the Philippines, there simply aren't any equuivalents, or if there are I haven't found them. Maybe it's because in the West, and in Japan and China, there's a huge corpus of aesthetic culture that includes art, music, literature and philosophy and that's passed on and added to from generation to generation. There's no parallel here, nor are there anu viable indigenous cultural outlets for expressing them. Try finding a good jazz club for example, in Manila, or a major art museum, or decent theatrical performances. Try finding equivalents to the Louvre, or the Met, or the Tate Gallery.
Perhaps the difference is one of degree. That is, despite the agreed vacuity of American popular culture, plentiful alternatives exist for the large minority that seeks alternatives. To me, the "whys" of the situation don't matter. I don't care if the absence of cultural alternatives was caused by colonialism, a poor educational system, corruption or other factors; it's the absence that bothers me.
GEBut the "why" is the answer.
The same reason there is no national culture worth much is the same reason Filipina women are poor and desperate enough to sleep with fat disgusting elderly western men for a few dollars.
Doubt it?
Tell me another place in the world with a vibrant living culture and educated populace where you can bone beautiful young women for $20.
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