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Soapy Smith
01-12-13, 04:11
There's no parallel here, nor are there anu viable indigenous cultural outlets for expressing them. GENext time you're in Metro Manila, make a point to check out Club Conspiracy on Visayas Avenue in Quezon Avenue. Some acts may not be your cup of tea, but one of their principles is to invite only performers who write their own materials. Joey Ayala is an example. He writes materials in English and Tagalog, and, at least when I've seen him perform, he brings a number of indigenous instruments and musicians into the performance. I have seen occasional jazz performers there. Also check out Skydog, a jazz-celtic fusion. The club started a few years ago as a co-op of folks dissatisfied with performance venues in the city. Your buddy Conrado de Quiros and his wife were central players in organizing it. He's often sitting around the place at night.

Hairy Wonder
01-12-13, 05:59
While everyone is entitled to their opinions, I am amazed that people would come to a forum that is meant to be a means of reporting on where to find good pussy and, instead post crap up about the lack of culture that they prefer in their home countries. If you want to see a Broadway show, why would you go to Philippines? It's kind of like going to any foreign country and expecting the local natives to speak your native language perfectly. After reading through all of this dribble about culture, I can understand why people jump right to asking questions rather than RTFF. How about getting back to what this forum is supposed to be about?

My rant is now finished. Flame away.

Stroker Ace88
01-12-13, 06:39
Try finding a good jazz club for example, in Manila, or a major art museum, or decent theatrical performances. Try finding equivalents to the Louvre, or the Met, or the Tate Gallery. Perhaps the difference is one of degree. That is, despite the agreed vacuity of American popular culture, plentiful alternatives exist for the large minority that seeks alternatives. To me, the "whys" of the situation don't matter. I don't care if the absence of cultural alternatives was caused by colonialism, a poor educational system, corruption or other factors; it's the absence that bothers me.There was a major art museum in the Philippines, but it was always displayed behind closed doors. Priceless paintings from Picasso, Van Gogh and other masters like Renoir, Rembrandt and Cézanne. Over 300 paintings in the collection. There is also a major jewelry collection being held in Manila that was also seized back in the 80's, but a master list of contents was only ordered a few years ago. Alot of the jewelry in the collection 'disappeared' over time.

http://www.filipinoreporter.us/home/filipino-abroad/2208-146-marcos-paintings-missing-says-pcgg.html

http://en.wikicollecting.org/imelda-marcos-jewellery-collection

Soapy Smith
01-12-13, 07:37
Maybe it's because in the West, and in Japan and China, there's a huge corpus of aesthetic culture that includes art, music, literature and philosophy and that's passed on and added to from generation to generation.It seems to me that in China, Japan and the West there were established "institutions" that supported and carried the arts over time. In Europe it was the Catholic Church, royalty, and, at a few points in time, governments, that supported gifted artists. At many points in history the arts might have perished had it not been for the Catholic Church (think Gregorian Chant through the Dark Ages, and the preservation of written history by Catholic clerics, or the churches that supported organists and choirmasters like Bach) or royalty that employed the most talented as court musicians. In China and Japan I presume it was mostly royalty as an institution that patronized and sustained the arts.

The Philippines was never a nation until the Spanish imposed boundaries on a set of 7, 000 islands and multiple language and ethnic groups. And for their three hundred years the only "institutions" that the Spanish were interested in creating were those that imposed control and extracted resources. The island country's identity was given to it from the name of the Spanish King, and even then the name was applied only to Spanish-born and those of Spanish blood born in the Philippines. Not until the late 19th Century was the name Filipino extended to a few well-educated natives (the ilustrado) and mercantile Chinoys. Americans, for all their faults, did attempt to build educational and government institutions. It's perhaps no accident that government, sports (boxing, basketball, baseball) , and much of what exists for art, was mimicked from Americans. What little jazz exists was brought to the Philippines in the early 20th Century by Americans. Classical music, again, from the Americans. In short, the social institutions that might otherwise have passed the arts along were intentionally eviscerated by the Spanish.

One exception might be traditional dances, but these tend to reflect particular local origins. Dances passed down by Moros from Mindanao are unique; likewise dances from Western Mindanao that seem to reveal a strong Spanish influence. The well-known tinikling where they dance in and out of bamboo poles being beat to the floor originates in the Visayas (Leyte, I think). The Igorots, Ilocanos and Bicolanos have their own dances as well. And some Filipinos are working hard to preserve the heritages of the dances. Perhaps the dances were preserved because they were communal activities that even peasants could sustain without institutional support.

BTW, there are some pieces of art, musical instruments, and the like on display at the Cultural Center of the Philippines near Roxas and Pablo Ocampo, and there are artistic performances there in the auditorium, although I admit I've never attended them. I sometimes wonder how many erstwhile Filipino musicians are stuck as lounge acts on cruise ships and in East Asian hotels? It seems the arts don't thrive without financial support. I think questions about the failure to sustain indigenous art forms is the relevant question. After all, why should we expect them to have cultivated Western art forms?

FreebieFan
01-12-13, 09:23
While everyone is entitled to their opinions, I am amazed that people would come to a forum that is meant to be a means of reporting on where to find good pussy and, instead post crap up about the lack of culture that they prefer in their home countries. How about getting back to what this forum is supposed to be about?

My rant is now finished. Flame away.Happy ranting. Long time members of this forum are well aware there are a vast variety of subjects here. Were all here for the pussy, but our discussions digrees now and again. Its a big wide world and theres room enuogh for all. So allow those of us who inhabit this board and have inhabited this board some leeway. Talking about pussy endlessly has its limits and would soon bore us. As this subject clearly has done for you.

X Man
01-12-13, 15:13
Some interesting diversions, but can we get back on Topic. Chat rooms / pen pals. Girls we meet online.

I had my sights on one last month that is too good looking. I should know better. She'd been to Germany and I could only assume it was on someone elses dime. Well, when I get to Philippines I text and she is unavailable. Apparently spending the holidays with "auntie" in Olongapo.

LOL, her most recent FB pictures seem to indicate a nice holiday at Wild Orchid in Subic. Who's the lucky guy. Anyone here? I'll keep trying. X

Member #4491
01-12-13, 17:41
Interesting that the pattern is not obvious by now for everyone here. When my dear friend Mr GE, or anyone else living in the Philippines, get overwhelmed by the dysfunctional practices in society or by the lack of ambitions and "fine culture", it is in fact a signal that us monger friends needs to step in and create distraction and entertainment for our brother. We need to fly in and save that friend, by suggesting alternative distractions. GE, I have heard Bangkok has a vibrant cultural scene. And I just booked a ticket there. I will swing by and pick you up in Davao.

Since this is not a wiki but a forum for DISCUSSIONS it is futile to claim some sort of strict rules with regards to the topics of discussions. You will spend just as much time writing about upholding these "rules", as discussing the so called topic. What for? We are here for entertainment, and not because we can not score or need advice on how to chat with a female. The lame f*cks who can not score p*ssy without getting advice on how to do it, will not be helped from ISG, no matter how hard a strict topic moderation is implemented. Let it flow and let the subjects vary a bit. It is entertaining and it makes the reading more versatile. And anyone who is not happy with a certain poster, block him and you will soon be able to stop crying about it.

B.

Stroker Ace88
01-13-13, 03:32
Happy ranting. Long time members of this forum are well aware there are a vast variety of subjects here. Were all here for the pussy, but our discussions digrees now and again. Its a big wide world and theres room enuogh for all. So allow those of us who inhabit this board and have inhabited this board some leeway. Talking about pussy endlessly has its limits and would soon bore us. As this subject clearly has done for you.I have to agree with FF. Guys on the forum who live in the Philippines or spend alot of time here comment on various topics. Often threads get off track but within a page or two find the way back. The ISG members who spend a couple of weeks a year in the RP, they always want to hear about pussy.

FreebieFan
01-13-13, 08:55
During my recent manila trip I tried out an app that I have on my android phone.

It has a " look around " function that lets you search for women etc. Its very popular in China too. I looked around and got chatting with some ladies that were near. No 3 hour trips from Fairview QC required etc, as the app tells you that they re within 100 200 500 metres etc. Met two this way and of course, porked them.

Wise players will know what this app is or be able to source it easily. Don't ask me for the name.

Next trip will activate it as soon as wheels are down. Way better than the geographical hit or miss of DIA etc. And its easier to chat on phone than search via a pc.

Mc Don
01-13-13, 14:34
Try finding a good jazz club for example, in Manila.

GEIn Makati have a look at the Strumms on Jupiter St near burgos. They have few bends play every night and I can't remember which night but one is Jazz and its not bad.

Mr Enternational
01-13-13, 17:06
During my recent manila trip I tried out an app that I have on my android phone.

It has a " look around " function that lets you search for women etc. Its very popular in China too. I looked around and got chatting with some ladies that were near. No 3 hour trips from Fairview QC required etc, as the app tells you that they re within 100 200 500 metres etc. Met two this way and of course, porked them.Sounds like W H! Popular in Thailand as well.

Hibukhibok
01-15-13, 04:49
The word you are inquiring about is a derogatory word and as such has no place on ISG. Forum software corrects your improper use of the word into "working girl". Using alternative ways to get the word in question (as well as other offending words and terms) inserted into the text of your post is an easy way to get placed on moderated status. Openly criticizing forum management practices or moderator actions will result in your profile potentially being banned.Thanks for your answer, I was just being curious. I would never dream to circumvent your rules nor of of criticizing the management!

Now I hope you will forgive me but along the same vein I was thinking to change the title of a well known play (highly controversial to say the least) of the classical english theatre repertory from "'Tis a Pity She 's a (whatever)" to "Tis a Pity She's a Working Girl".

The author John Ford (1586-1639) was known for his melancholy disposition, maybe this might have relieved his depression for a while.

X Man
01-15-13, 11:30
Barba, you disappoint me. This thread is called "chat rooms and pen pals" and is one of the most popular threads for the Philippines. Asking esteemed members like yourself to move some of the recent discussions to more appropriate threads is not "strict topic moderation". Yes, we all stray off topic for a while, but when people start objecting, it's time to consider the situation rather than getting huffy.

I also strongy disagree with your "lame fk" comment. Such creatures certainly exist, but most of the members here are just getting and (hopefully) sharing information about how to make their journey more pleasant.

"strict rules" "lame fk" "stop crying" "this is not Wiki". Who are you directing this to? If you have a sane, sober and intelligent response, please post. If you want to get hostile, send pm.

X Man (six years at ISG and still benefiting from the shared wisdom. And I like the photos)


. SNIP.

Since this is not a wiki but a forum for DISCUSSIONS it is futile to claim some sort of strict rules with regards to the topics of discussions. You will spend just as much time writing about upholding these "rules", as discussing the so called topic. What for? We are here for entertainment, and not because we can not score or need advice on how to chat with a female. The lame f*cks who can not score p*ssy without getting advice on how to do it, will not be helped from ISG, no matter how hard a strict topic moderation is implemented. Let it flow and let the subjects vary a bit. It is entertaining and it makes the reading more versatile. And anyone who is not happy with a certain poster, block him and you will soon be able to stop crying about it.

B.

Member #4491
01-16-13, 01:02
X Man, I am glad I invoke at least some reaction every now and then. You are probably right. Just my outburst provoked by the fact that wherever I go, I seem to read a lot about people telling others what to do and "to follow the rules", at every cost. Too few people actually share anything of themselves in my opinion. Groups of people often tend to start to moderate each-other heavily for various reason. Inhibiting and controlling any behavior that is considered extreme or even eccentric in the context. An atmosphere of moderation nivelates humans, and I just find it less interesting. It is a fundamental semi automatic cognitive pattern for coexistence, but not so exciting. Evolution comes through testing new sample space, and why not adopt this exciting practice a bit more, also here on ISG? One up for some slack, and then we can browse or block if a user is annoying and verbose about things that does not make any sense or is off topic. I will not get sad if anyone blocks me. In fact I would block myself if I could. Now this was a cooperative post, right? (Barba is being a good community member now.)

In any case, I don't mind some colorful and associative ventures in the threads, but I probably expressed it in a non constructive manner. In the previous post. Thank you for stepping up X. At the end of the day I must ask myself "even if I am bored, who am I to disrespect the rules that someone invented for this excellent forum?"

Time to go east to meet some Caucasian beauties so I am checking out for some time.

All the best.

B

Red Kilt
01-17-13, 10:25
Consumers focused on where their next bonk will come from should click on to the next post.

For other connoisseurs, this is a rather thoughtful piece on the problems with on-line dating. I know that some dear readers are still seeking the ideal woman through dating sites; others just want to get laid.

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/13/01/the-many-problems-with-online-datings-radical-efficiency/266796/

X Man
01-17-13, 12:49
THanks RK, that is very interesting. I've always been interested in social psychology.

Barba, thanks for the interesting reply. I think many of us on ISG are rebels in one way or the other.

BTW, this gal has been on DIA for centuries. Cutiesimple from Manila. Has anyone met her? X.


Consumers focused on where their next bonk will come from should click on to the next post.

For other connoisseurs, this is a rather thoughtful piece on the problems with on-line dating. I know that some dear readers are still seeking the ideal woman through dating sites; others just want to get laid.

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/13/01/the-many-problems-with-online-datings-radical-efficiency/266796/

Soapy Smith
01-17-13, 14:22
For other connoisseurs, this is a rather thoughtful piece on the problems with on-line dating. I know that some dear readers are still seeking the ideal woman through dating sites; others just want to get laid.I think this was written by an economist, not a social psychologist. These economic metaphors really appeal to Americans. A social psychologist might suggest the fun is in the interaction or "negotiations" rather than the friction of the marketplace. In our world the best of the friction occurs well after the negotiations.

Mr Enternational
01-17-13, 15:54
And nobody would give a flip about diamonds either if DeBeers had never tricked the whole world. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. They are just rocks from the ground that serve no other purpose than to look at. Metals, on the other hand, can actually be used for something.

http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-de-beers-2011-12?op=1


If diamonds grew on dandelions no one would care about diamonds

D Cups
01-17-13, 16:11
All expensive jewelry is overpriced bullshit in my opinion. A diamond is a girls best friend was obviously promoted by that industry. I'd rather take her to some expensive 4 star resort than waste money on that crap. Gold, too. I mean, who are you trying to impress? To each his own.


And nobody would give a flip about diamonds either if DeBeers had never tricked the whole world. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. They are just rocks from the ground that serve no other purpose than to look at. Metals, on the other hand, can actually be used for something.

http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-de-beers-2011-12?op=1

Pete Benetar
01-17-13, 17:34
I think this was written by an economist, not a social psychologist. These economic metaphors really appeal to Americans. A social psychologist might suggest the fun is in the interaction or "negotiations" rather than the friction of the marketplace. In our world the best of the friction occurs well after the negotiations.Well he's a philosopher philosophizing as opposed to some who prefer the "vacuity" perhaps of an easy date much like moi, having met my wife on the internet and use same modality to arrange serial sex dates to be arranged pre-approved, scheduled and ready to provide simple physical pleasure in a very abbreviated time format. I guess the author might ruminate why a fox would not stop to fill his belly before simply moving down the line and killing every hen in the henhouse. OK, that analogy might be a little strange so suffice it to say I agree pleasure of negotiating is more in the presence of the flesh.

Needless to say the whole concept of "dating" in the west and on ISG is absurd when matching the reality of my aging carcass with my desires. It's a lamentable experience here at home and a source of reality mismatch when I discuss the topic with my adult kids. One a pro NFL cheerleader and the other Mr. GQ male RN (nurse) in a very target rich environment. My son looks at me every time I've got a dating site open and he shakes his head in complete consternation quizzing me why I'm not out in "the real world" getting dates. But God willing, he too will wrinkle and sag one day.

Hibukhibok
01-18-13, 19:47
During my recent manila trip I tried out an app that I have on my android phone.

It has a " look around " function that lets you search for women etc. Its very popular in China too. I looked around and got chatting with some ladies that were near. No 3 hour trips from Fairview QC required etc, as the app tells you that they re within 100 200 500 metres etc. Met two this way and of course, porked them.Very popular in paris.

Hibukhibok
01-18-13, 20:01
Well he's a philosopher philosophizing as opposed to some who prefer the "vacuity" perhaps of an easy date much like moi, having met my wife on the internet and use same modality to arrange serial sex dates to be arranged pre-approved, scheduled and ready to provide simple physical pleasure in a very abbreviated time format. I guess the author might ruminate why a fox would not stop to fill his belly before simply moving down the line and killing every hen in the henhouse. OK, that analogy might be a little strange so suffice it to say I agree pleasure of negotiating is more in the presence of the flesh.

Needless to say the whole concept of "dating" in the west and on ISG is absurd when matching the reality of my aging carcass with my desires. It's a lamentable experience here at home and a source of reality mismatch when I discuss the topic with my adult kids. One a pro NFL cheerleader and the other Mr. GQ male RN (nurse) in a very target rich environment. My son looks at me every time I've got a dating site open and he shakes his head in complete consternation quizzing me why I'm not out in "the real world" getting dates. But God willing, he too will wrinkle and sag one day.The fox has to kill every hen and rooster fast because the raucus and squawking would soon alert the poultry owners. It's a matter of survival for the fox, not that he really needs to eat them all.

I also assume that the wife that you met on the internet was number deux, correct?

X Man
01-19-13, 12:31
Pete, like you I have some frowns from my one and only known progeny (male) who has acquired some of the best physical features from his father and my Asian ex. Smart, good looking, and 1st world relatives / money all around. He doesn't even realize he has won the dna lottery on three points.

He seemed slightly interested in a trip to phil when I suggested snorkeling and diving. But that's okay, he's getting laid a lot more than I was at that age (I was in the military).

Then there is my bro, never married, . Also roles his eyes when I suggest a holiday in Philippines. But then drools when he sees some 40ish divorcee with two or three kids. X.


SNIP.

Needless to say the whole concept of "dating" in the west and on ISG is absurd when matching the reality of my aging carcass with my desires. It's a lamentable experience here at home and a source of reality mismatch when I discuss the topic with my adult kids. One a pro NFL cheerleader and the other Mr. GQ male RN (nurse) in a very target rich environment. My son looks at me every time I've got a dating site open and he shakes his head in complete consternation quizzing me why I'm not out in "the real world" getting dates. But God willing, he too will wrinkle and sag one day.

Wicked Roger
01-21-13, 05:56
Pete, like you I have some frowns from my one and only known progeny (male) who has acquired some of the best physical features from his father and my Asian ex. Smart, good looking, and 1st world relatives / money all around. He doesn't even realize he has won the dna lottery on three points.

He seemed slightly interested in a trip to phil when I suggested snorkeling and diving. But that's okay, he's getting laid a lot more than I was at that age (I was in the military).

Then there is my bro, never married, . Also roles his eyes when I suggest a holiday in Philippines. But then drools when he sees some 40ish divorcee with two or three kids. X.X.

As we know each other I am struggling with the "some of the best physical features from his father" bit LOL.

As for other pieces of info I would agree but many of my frioends wives will not their husband go to the Philippines for a genuine recruitment trip due to "rumours / stories about that place" and maybe also because they know me and consider me to be an upstanding gentleman of high morals who lies a lot LOL.

One of my good mate refuses to visit the Philippines, he drools like your brother etc and dreams but says he can't resist temptation and I would place many in his way so he should not go (he is not a born again religious nut). Odd behaviour I admit but leaves more for you and more I suppose.

But there is the case of my godson who is turning 18 soon and his dad has insisted I take him to a place to have his brains shagged out. And dad wants to come with him purely for paternal care. He is letting me tell his darling wife that I intend to honour the promise I made when he was born as I am such a good godfather LOL

Soapy Smith
01-21-13, 09:06
But there is the case of my godson who is turning 18 soon and his dad has insisted I take him to a place to have his brains shagged out. And dad wants to come with him purely for paternal care. He is letting me tell his darling wife that I intend to honour the promise I made when he was born as I am such a good godfather LOLMaybe a WWII history tour is a guise for the trip, or if that comes off as total crap, given your reputation, maybe diving or exploring the biodiversity of backcountry areas (e. G, Palawan). Afterward, just photoshop yourselves into some photos ripped off from the internet.

D Cups
01-21-13, 17:25
Also roles his eyes when I suggest a holiday in Philippines.Fellow Mongers: we are indeed lucky to have the freedom and ability to practice our nefariously D-lightful hobby, particularly in SouthEast Asia. My unsubstantiated guess is we get laid at least 10X more in one trip than many of our countrymen in the States, Europe and Australia (and elsewhere) do their entire lives. At least that's what a married buddy in the States tells me. I usually go to SEA for 3. 4 weeks at a time. 2 times a year, and usually have around 25 different girls each time, including many C and D cups. Many of you greatly exceed this bang rate but my 57 year old schwanztooka can only take so much! Thank pharmacy for V!

My brother (and other relatives) and I really don't talk about it. He's been married almost 50 years. The poor guy has a life sentence with a coo coo bird. I can hardly wait to retire in the PI in 10 and spend the golden years boinking the sexy little brown delectables with their willing mouths, tiny twats, trim tummies and heart-shaped asses whenever I want.

FreebieFan
01-22-13, 08:19
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1376309. I can hardly wait to retire in the PI in 10 and spend the golden years boinking the sexy little brown delectables with their willing mouths, tiny twats, trim tummies and heart-shaped asses whenever I want.[/QUOTE]Ten years, months weeks or days?

Me. I got 1450 days but whos counting!

FreebieFan
01-22-13, 09:46
Chatted to gal calling herself "anewhor". Hmm is she trying to say she's anyhoar. Or is she saying "anyhor" in the way that some words get mangled in Manila.

I asked her about this. She said hundreds of guys have called her bad names or congratulated her for being honest. She didn't know why they would.

Her name is Rhowena and she spelt is backwards. LOL.

Red Kilt
01-22-13, 14:58
chatted to gal calling herself "anewhor". hmm is she trying to say she's anyhoar. or is she saying "anyhor" in the way that some words get mangled in manila.

i asked her about this. she said hundreds of guys have called her bad names or congratulated her for being honest. she didn't know why they would.

her name is rhowena and she spelt is backwards. lol.and once again the insertion of the silent "h" appears in the name that is conventionally spelled as "rowena".

my classic mis-name experience was when a girl told me that her name was merciditas. i replied that i had heard of "merceditas" but not heard of her spelling.

she replied "oh yes sorry heehee i misspeeelt (sic) my name. it is merceditas"

it takes a heap of expensive education to miss-spell your own name. to make it worse, merceditas was her real name (confirmed later by her i d) , and not one she had adopted for chatting.

Mr Enternational
01-22-13, 15:25
Has this happened to anyone else?

On January 6 last year this guy sent me an email on DIA saying,"Hello,

I got girlfriend there maybe you like hook up with her when am not there, hope not cause offence as none meant"

I replied,"Oh shit. I live in Pattaya. I have more girls here than I can beat off with a stick. I'm just trying to line some girls up for my PI trip next month. Big thanks though."

I'm cruising DIA right now looking for girls for next month and the same guy just sent me the exact same email. 1 year and 16 days later.

D Cups
01-22-13, 15:29
Ten years, months weeks or days?

Me. I got 1450 days but whos counting!10 years max. Maybe eight.

LuvAsianTang
01-22-13, 16:42
Ten years, months weeks or days?

Me. I got 1450 days but whos counting!I have 176. HRS and I'm counting them in my sleep even LOL

Red Kilt
01-23-13, 01:49
Has this happened to anyone else?

On January 6 last year this guy sent me an email on DIA saying,"Hello,

I got girlfriend there maybe you like hook up with her when am not there, hope not cause offence as none meant"

I replied,"Oh shit. I live in Pattaya. I have more girls here than I can beat off with a stick. I'm just trying to line some girls up for my PI trip next month. Big thanks though."

I'm cruising DIA right now looking for girls for next month and the same guy just sent me the exact same email. 1 year and 16 days later.Big warning lights flash for me here.

This is a guy pimping his wife, and both of them working together are going to hit you with the "adultery" law in the Philippines which means, in plain English, that it is illegal, under Philippines law, to screw a woman who is legally married to another man.

Thankfully the instances where these charges have been made are few and far between but there was a celebrated case last year. Don't fall for that one.

Cunning Stunt
01-23-13, 02:03
10 years max. Maybe eight.Do you get time off for good behaviour?

X Man
01-23-13, 02:17
It's never happened to me. I did get an older woman who wanted me to meet her daughter. I gave a positive, but vague reply and never heard from her again. I guess she found better prospects. LOL.

Enternational, aren't you tempted to find out more? Yes, I know it sounds dodgy, but I'm curious about what's going on with that. X.


Has this happened to anyone else?

On January 6 last year this guy sent me an email on DIA saying,"Hello,

I got girlfriend there maybe you like hook up with her when am not there, hope not cause offence as none meant"

I replied,"Oh shit. I live in Pattaya. I have more girls here than I can beat off with a stick. I'm just trying to line some girls up for my PI trip next month. Big thanks though."

I'm cruising DIA right now looking for girls for next month and the same guy just sent me the exact same email. 1 year and 16 days later.

Mr Enternational
01-23-13, 03:09
Big warning lights flash for me here.

This is a guy pimping his wife, and both of them working together are going to hit you with the "adultery" law in the Philippines which means, in plain English, that it is illegal, under Philippines law, to screw a woman who is legally married to another man.

Thankfully the instances where these charges have been made are few and far between but there was a celebrated case last year. Don't fall for that one.No, this guy says the girl is in Thailand in the same city that I live. I'm not curious one bit. Like I told him I already have tons of women in my city free and paid. I don't need any references. But I did see the episode of Locked Up Abroad where the guy from England and the girl he got pregnant were put in jail under that adultery law.

Wicked Roger
01-23-13, 05:51
This is a guy pimping his wife, and both of them working together are going to hit you with the "adultery" law in the Philippines which means, in plain English, that it is illegal, under Philippines law, to screw a woman who is legally married to another man.

Thankfully the instances where these charges have been made are few and far between but there was a celebrated case last year. Don't fall for that one.Indeed very fortunate or a few members here would be in trouble as well as a lot of pinoys LOL

It only seems to come top cpurt when at least one of the 'aggrieved parties' want some extra publicity IMHO.

A good mate was warned off a sexy thing a while ago by a text from the husband (my friend had no idea she was married evenn though he had been shagging her for a year). Hubbie did not threaten the adultery law more of 'army law' . A gun shoved up his butt and fired. Was a funny text message as well!

Pervfr
01-23-13, 19:03
Hi all,

I'm a DIA user since 3 years from now, I've been in the PI 6 times since then, and despite the low success rate of this website, I'm happy with it since I always end beding several of the cuties (and uglies) thanks to DIA.

Lately, I noticed a new tendency among the semi-pro ladies from DIA: the fact that some ladies will always insist on coming with their "sexy friends", and refuse to come if alone. Well that sounds great if you're into 3some, but I sometimes want just a girl, and I'm not interested on one or 2 of the ugly girls she want to bring with her. And most importantly, I hate being forced to do something I don't want to do. Not to mention that the additional pax means additional expenses.

I don't know if you guys noticed the new thing also, in my case, mostly girls from cebu. I'm wondering if it's due to some fear to be abused, some plan to steal stuff. But I never ever accepted when it was a "take it or leave it" option.

Any thought?

(ps excuse my poor english, I'm french speaking)

Tally Wacker
01-23-13, 19:15
Thought some might find this vid entertaining.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6df_1358953122

FreebieFan
01-24-13, 02:57
Hi all,

I'm a DIA user since 3 years from now, I've been in the PI 6 times since then, and despite the low success rate of this website, I'm happy with it since I always end beding several of the cuties (and uglies) thanks to DIA.

Lately, I noticed a new tendency among the semi-pro ladies from DIA: the fact that some ladies will always insist on coming with their "sexy friends", and refuse to come if alone. Well that sounds great if you're into 3some, but I sometimes want just a girl, and I'm not interested on one or 2 of the ugly girls she want to bring with her.

I don't know if you guys noticed the new thing also, in my case, mostly girls from cebu. I'm wondering if it's due to some fear to be abused, some plan to steal stuff. But I never ever accepted when it was a "take it or leave it" option.

) Tell them from the outset that this isn't acceptable to you. Tell them that kids bring freinds, but that you assumed you werent dealing with a kid. This tactic usually works with me. If the girl is really hot and you really want her, then tell her she can bring her friend for "travel protection ". When you meet you give the girl money so she can go sit in jollibee, and then you and Ms Hot go play. THats also worked well many times. BE strong and firm. You will get your way.

As for DIA having low success rate. Well I'm glad thats not my experience. Mid 50s guy with the energy levels of a teenager (sometimes!)

Red Kilt
01-24-13, 03:46
Lately, I noticed a new tendency among the semi-pro ladies from DIA: the fact that some ladies will always insist on coming with their "sexy friends", and refuse to come if alone. Well that sounds great if you're into 3some, but I sometimes want just a girl, and I'm not interested on one or 2 of the ugly girls she want to bring with her. And most importantly, I hate being forced to do something I don't want to do. Not to mention that the additional pax means additional expenses.

I don't know if you guys noticed the new thing also, in my case, mostly girls from cebu.It's not new. Whatever makes you think it is "new". And it is not only Cebu. Your "sample" is surely a minor fraction of the approximately 46 million females in the Philippines.

A majority of filipinas (probably more than 90% of them) are conservative in behavior and upbringing, and they would always bring a chaperone on a first meeting with a stranger. These are NOT the girls that most visitors will encounter in various places of entertainment whose main modus operandi is to find guys in bars, in malls or on chat sites. If she wants to bring a chaperone she is merely following well-established norms.

FF has the solution in the earlier post. This usually works. If it doesn't then you have struck out with a non-player, and you should move on.

Vittu
01-24-13, 04:55
I see the words girls use in their profiles but am not sure about the meaning.

What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).

Mr Enternational
01-24-13, 05:32
I see the words girls use in their profiles but am not sure about the meaning.

What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do.Uhhh. Poor.

Ebauche
01-24-13, 06:19
Uhhh. Poor.I think it can safely be said, anywhere, if they ain't poor, they ain't "simple and humble."

Python75
01-24-13, 09:21
I see the words girls use in their profiles but am not sure about the meaning.

What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).My take is that they are reffering to the actual life style they lead which is usually free from the complexities that we might be accustomed to in our daily living, and they concentrate more on needs As opposed to wants.

Red Kilt
01-24-13, 09:29
My take is that they are reffering to the actual life style they lead which is usually free from the complexities that we might be accustomed to in our daily living, and they concentrate more on needs As opposed to wants.I don't think you know filipinas very well Python.

In my experience they focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED.

I know several girls who have the latest cell phone and IPad along with a monthly subscription to an internet provider and yet they often go without food and they crash in friends' houses because they cannot afford a "bed spacer". Wants are way more important than the basic needs of food and shelter.

There's no accurate answer to explain what they mean when they say they are "simple". I have asked many times and I always get a different answer. It generally refers to the way they think they live (simple) rather than to themselves. Hell. No woman in the world is "simple". They are all extraordinarily complex.

Col Law
01-24-13, 10:22
I see the words girls use in their profiles but am not sure about the meaning.

What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).When I asked the same question to different girls, I got the answer ordinary with simple needs.

WestCoast1
01-24-13, 15:16
Hell. No woman in the world is "simple". They are all extraordinarily complex.So well said; one of the great truths in life. Almost belongs in the ROD.

Soapy Smith
01-24-13, 15:36
In my experience they focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED.I observe that poor Filipinos / Filipinas have no sense of the Western concept of delayed gratification. If they come into a small windfall which should be enough to carry them for an extended period, it will not last. If they have the money, it's invariably burning a hole in the pocket, and they'll spend it on whatever whim strikes. I recall a front page story in the Phil Daily Inquirer of a few years ago. An American Peace Corps volunteer had been on site in some northern province only a couple weeks when the reporter interviewed him. He commented on how hospitable Filipinos were, as even poor families would put the last food in the house out on the table to entertain a guest. Yes, they often are hospitable in this way, but the flip side is they'll put out the last food or spend the last peso when a little bit of thrift might have kept them from hunger a few days later.

There are often commentaries here about visiting families in the provinces. The warning, usually appropriate, is that the monger will be expected to pay to entertain the family, and often the extended family. Some on the forum see this as pre-planned exploitation by the family. I don't see it as malevolent exploitation; rather, you're not a planned victim but a fortunate windfall for them. If it were one of them who suddenly came into a windfall, they too would likely be expected to entertain everybody else in the family. Resources, whether money, bananas, fish, or whatever, are meant to be consumed. Now, not later.

This is one of the contributing factors for why there are multiple sari-sari stores around every poor community. Planning ahead to buy a large bottle of cooking oil that could last a month or so isn't going to happen. The mindset is that they'll never have enough spare money--and it's too far to the Rustan's supermarket--to buy the larger quantity of oil. It's often a reality that they don't have enough money to buy it, but it's also a mindset related to always spending whatever is in the pocket. So instead they go repeatedly to the nearest sari-sari and buy half a cup of oil poured out into a little plastic bag, just enough to cook the current pot of food on the charcoal burner or single burner gas stove. And the plastic bag will soon be on the ground, waiting for the next downpour to be washed into some waste water grate where it backs up the runoff and helps flood the street. Cynical? Maybe. But I've watched it happen. Okay, some have trash cans in the home, but a kid with a candy wrapper standing a meter from a trash can is more likely to throw it on the ground. Impulse buying and environmental neglect are different faces of the same coin.

Sammon
01-24-13, 16:51
I observe that poor Filipinos / Filipinas have no sense of the Western concept of delayed gratification. If they come into a small windfall which should be enough to carry them for an extended period, it will not last. If they have the money, it's invariably burning a hole in the pocket, and they'll spend it on whatever whim strikes. I recall a front page story in the Phil Daily Inquirer of a few years ago. An American Peace Corps volunteer had been on site in some northern province only a couple weeks when the reporter interviewed him. He commented on how hospitable Filipinos were, as even poor families would put the last food in the house out on the table to entertain a guest. Yes, they often are hospitable in this way, but the flip side is they'll put out the last food or spend the last peso when a little bit of thrift might have kept them from hunger a few days later.

There are often commentaries here about visiting families in the provinces. The warning, usually appropriate, is that the monger will be expected to pay to entertain the family, and often the extended family. Some on the forum see this as pre-planned exploitation by the family. I don't see it as malevolent exploitation; rather, you're not a planned victim but a fortunate windfall for them. If it were one of them who suddenly came into a windfall, they too would likely be expected to entertain everybody else in the family. Resources, whether money, bananas, fish, or whatever, are meant to be consumed. Now, not later.

This is one of the contributing factors for why there are multiple sari-sari stores around every poor community. Planning ahead to buy a large bottle of cooking oil that could last a month or so isn't going to happen. The mindset is that they'll never have enough spare money-and it's too far to the Rustan's supermarket-to buy the larger quantity of oil. It's often a reality that they don't have enough money to buy it, but it's also a mindset related to always spending whatever is in the pocket. So instead they go repeatedly to the nearest sari-sari and buy half a cup of oil poured out into a little plastic bag, just enough to cook the current pot of food on the charcoal burner or single burner gas stove. And the plastic bag will soon be on the ground, waiting for the next downpour to be washed into some waste water grate where it backs up the runoff and helps flood the street. Cynical? Maybe. But I've watched it happen. Okay, some have trash cans in the home, but a kid with a candy wrapper standing a meter from a trash can is more likely to throw it on the ground. Impulse buying and environmental neglect are different faces of the same coin.You cannot put western thinking into their mind. They are very much family oriented and share everything what they have. Yes, it puts them in a financial strain. There are lots of stories where a hard working girl goes abroad, saves money only to be seen evaporating helping their extended family. Money demands are always there. Even the girls tell me their family is their priority and will do anything to help them. This includes sleeping with foreigners. So in this respect we should be thankfull we get young, cute girls without problems.

Pete Benetar
01-24-13, 21:08
you cannot put western thinking into their mind. they are very much family oriented and share everything what they have. yes, it puts them in a financial strain. there are lots of stories where a hard working girl goes abroad, saves money only to be seen evaporating helping their extended family. agreed. i don't live in the pi so i can't be a fair judge of economic, cultural values of the pi blah, blah, blah. 10% of the pi's entire gdp is money sent home from expatriated workers such as the young maid traveling to saudi arabia to have her passport confirep001ed, work under probably hellish conditions and be released only after conditions of her employer have been satisfied. the pi girls i've been and still associate with (i bred with one of them) seem to have their value systems in pretty good shape. i'm not referring to your garden variety lazy or dumbass spoiled princess.

since i live in the usa i can speak to the sense of delayed gratification and financial accountability here where we americans, as a society, prefer not to simply spend what is in our pockets, but dip into someone else's pockets and spend their money as well.

Red Kilt
01-25-13, 03:31
Note that my comment was simply describing "the way it is in the Philippines" when I said they "focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED".

I never tried to analyse it, explain it or justify it. It is the way it is.

As a visitor, it is best for you to accept it and just go along with it and, as a few posters said, don't think you can try to change it.

Mr Enternational
01-25-13, 06:37
What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).Lo and behold this just came up while talking to a chat mate who I will meet next month:

Honey: I am not a super model o are super beautiful.

Mr E: what are you?

Honey: simple woman hehe.

Mr E: what simple woman mean?

Honey: for me simple is, don't wear too sexy dress because I'm not sexy. Just always stay at home, don't go anywhere.

Mr E: boring?

Honey: I don't drink, and not smoke. Yesss boring, but that is my life.

Honey: but if there is a chance to enjoy, why not

Pete Benetar
01-25-13, 07:31
Mr E: what simple woman mean?

Honey: for me simple is, don't wear too sexy dress because I'm not sexy. Just always stay at home, don't go anywhere.

Mr E: boring?

Honey: I don't drink, and not smoke. Yesss boring, but that is my life.LMAO. Priceless.

Pervfr
01-25-13, 11:48
It's not new. Whatever makes you think it is "new". And it is not only Cebu. Your "sample" is surely a minor fraction of the approximately 46 million females in the Philippines.

A majority of filipinas (probably more than 90% of them) are conservative in behavior and upbringing, and they would always bring a chaperone on a first meeting with a stranger. These are NOT the girls that most visitors will encounter in various places of entertainment whose main modus operandi Is to find guys in bars, in malls or on chat sites. If she wants to bring a chaperone she is merely following well-established norms.

FF has the solution in the earlier post. This usually works. If it doesn't then you have struck out with a non-player, and you should move on.Sorry I didn't made myself clear. The girls I mentionned isn't the swwet shy youg filipina who want to bring a friend to feel safer or more comfortable, they are semipro hookers who want to "force me" going into 3some. They are explicite about the 3some.

But you're right, the girl willing to bring her friend, more, cousin is a different story and isn't for sure something new. But the hooker willing 3some or nothing is definitly a new thing to my experience.

Member #4351
01-25-13, 15:49
they are semipro hookers who want to "force me" going into 3some. They are explicite about the 3some.This happens everywhere, not just in the Filipines. A lot of guys are sucked into this from having watched too much porn. Threesomes generally turn out to be a waste of time and money.

Sammon
01-25-13, 16:48
This happens everywhere, not just in the Filipines. A lot of guys are sucked into this from having watched too much porn. Threesomes generally turn out to be a waste of time and money.Not really. If the girls are bi it works out good. I have had situations where the girls keep on kissing and I go fucking both alternatively and have my way with them and also they give BBBJ together.

Unfortunately Phi girls are not into Bi things. They just pretend only. Phi girls sometimes hide in the bathroom while I am screwing the other. When I asked about both joining in the fun they said they are " shy " whatever it means.

Mr Enternational
01-25-13, 16:59
Just to give you an idea. I'm talking to one of my DIA contacts and she said she has 1227 messages since August although she has deleted a lot of them. So who knows how many she really had. With so much competition you better find a way to stand out. And for me the best way to stand out is to be able to say that you are in PI now or showing up in the next couple of weeks, as many here have already said.

Wicked Roger
01-25-13, 18:03
Not really. If the girls are bi it works out good. I have had situations where the girls keep on kissing and I go fucking both alternatively and have my way with them and also they give BBBJ together.

Unfortunately Phi girls are not into Bi things. They just pretend only. Phi girls sometimes hide in the bathroom while I am screwing the other. When I asked about both joining in the fun they said they are " shy " whatever it means.Maybe I am at odds here but I have no trouble finding 3somes and bisexual pinays who love to play with each other and do all sorts of naughty things to me LOL.

Mosre recently had 3 different 3somes all genuine, some were with there real life girlfriend (that the parent don't know about as a scandal).

I agree for many this is not 'normal' but eduacate them. I have a girl or two who will deviriginise them which is fun to watch as well. But many of the mongers I know here either have good success or don't like for personal reasons YMMV.

But I have the patience to educate LOL

MajorPyle
01-25-13, 19:41
This will sound odd, but I recently visited Dubai for a week with a buddy and if you've been there, you know nearly all the help is imported from the Philippines. These beautiful ladies were everywhere. Once I go to the hotel, I realized how poorly these ladies are treated by not only the locals, but most everyone visiting the region. Just for shits, I began complimenting each beautiful Philippina from the front counter, coffee bar, restaurant, etc and before I realized it, I had these beautiful women following me like puppies. Just being treated like a human really aroused these ladies and before the week was up, I had more than just one free, beautiful tour guide with benefits as if they were longtime GF's. Overall, I didn't care for Dubai, but the food and Philippina's made the trip perfect. I could almost be convinced to return just for the free strange. I guess the point I'm making is at least here, you have a good change of meeting an honest lady with good intentions. BTW, we stayed at the Ramada Dubai which was full of beautiful employees as well as being very close to several bars chocked full of Chinese and European working girls.

Red Kilt
01-26-13, 03:04
Just to give you an idea. I'm talking to one of my DIA contacts and she said she has 1227 messages since August although she has deleted a lot of them. So who knows how many she really had. With so much competition you better find a way to stand out. And for me the best way to stand out is to be able to say that you are in PI now or showing up in the next couple of weeks, as many here have already said.I agree with Mr E. You should also understand that women are getting sick and tired of guys on DIA and other sites playing them for suckers and just delighting in sadistic fun, and they need to have proof that a guy is actually here and not bullshitting them.

Just last week a woman had arranged to meet me at Mall of Asia (MOA) at 10. 30 am. When I arrived at around 10. 15 am I texted her asking if she was on the way. After she confirmed that I was actually there at MOA she arrived maybe 5 mins late.

She told me how just a few days earlier she had been chatting with a guy and arranged to meet at MOA for lunch. He never showed up, after promising her lunch and transport fares. She told me she was so pissed off as she had borrowed money to get there and only had enough to get back home so no food. That's why she waited until I proved I was there before she left home. She thought she could trust him as he seemed so "nice".

The worst part of this story is that the guy sent her a message that night asking if she had gone to MOA and was laughing and gloating about how he had scammed her. All the time he was in his poky little town in Ohio back in the states. She blocked him.

She also admitted that she usually expects he would have a local CP number and had forgotten to check.

Hibukhibok
01-26-13, 04:57
Hi all,

I'm a DIA user since 3 years from now, I've been in the PI 6 times since then, and despite the low success rate of this website, I'm happy with it since I always end up bedding several of the cuties (and uglies) thanks to DIA.

I don't know if you guys noticed the new thing also, in my case, mostly girls from cebu. I'm wondering if it's due to some fear to be abused, some plan to steal stuff. But I never ever accepted when it was a "take it or leave it" option.

Any thought?

(please excuse my poor english, I'm french speaking) Can't understand your second sentence. What do you mean by "plan to steal stuff"?

Hibukhibok
01-26-13, 05:45
I observe that poor Filipinos / Filipinas have no sense of the Western concept of delayed gratification. If they come into a small windfall which should be enough to carry them for an extended period, it will not last. If they have the money, it's invariably burning a hole in the pocket, and they'll spend it on whatever whim strikes. I recall a front page story in the Phil Daily Inquirer of a few years ago. An American Peace Corps volunteer had been on site in some northern province only a couple weeks when the reporter interviewed him. He commented on how hospitable Filipinos were, as even poor families would put the last food in the house out on the table to entertain a guest. Yes, they often are hospitable in this way, but the flip side is they'll put out the last food or spend the last peso when a little bit of thrift might have kept them from hunger a few days later.

There are often commentaries here about visiting families in the provinces. The warning, usually appropriate, is that the monger will be expected to pay to entertain the family, and often the extended family. Some on the forum see this as pre-planned exploitation by the family. I don't see it as malevolent exploitation; rather, you're not a planned victim but a fortunate windfall for them. If it were one of them who suddenly came into a windfall, they too would likely be expected to entertain everybody else in the family. Resources, whether money, bananas, fish, or whatever, are meant to be consumed. Now, not later.

This is one of the contributing factors for why there are multiple sari-sari stores around every poor community. Planning ahead to buy a large bottle of cooking oil that could last a month or so isn't going to happen. The mindset is that they'll never have enough spare money-and it's too far to the Rustan's supermarket-to buy the larger quantity of oil. It's often a reality that they don't have enough money to buy it, but it's also a mindset related to always spending whatever is in the pocket. So instead they go repeatedly to the nearest sari-sari and buy half a cup of oil poured out into a little plastic bag, just enough to cook the current pot of food on the charcoal burner or single burner gas stove. And the plastic bag will soon be on the ground, waiting for the next downpour to be washed into some waste water grate where it backs up the runoff and helps flood the street. Cynical? Maybe. But I've watched it happen. Okay, some have trash cans in the home, but a kid with a candy wrapper standing a meter from a trash can is more likely to throw it on the ground. Impulse buying and environmental neglect are different faces of the same coin.The multiplicity of sari-sari stores does carry AFAIAC the same implications. Quite frankly the situation in France even in Paris was not that different a few decades ago, why bother stocking up on food when the stores were only a few doors away, even earlier (and certainly even now in the Phils) the lack of refrigerators forced people to buy some products quite frequently (meat, fish, dairy, bread and pastries). Besides it was a wonderful way to keep housewives busy before television and the kids were often dispatched to help for such errands (just as in the Phils again).

How many people in the Phils are actually quite beyond walking distance from any supermarket, most.

Sari-sari stores generally owned and kept by women are for me the embodiment of a certain spirit of free enterprise and an attempt to do at least something against grinding poverty, I have been in certain African countries where people starve on their door steps w / o doing anything of the kind.

As to the plastic bags yes it is a curse but why does it take so long to come up with some bio-degradable substitute?

Concerning to the alleged hospitality it may be genuine (although avoiding losing face may be a factor) but it is not 100% disinterested and the "rich" foreigner is certainly expected to somehow come up with some form of compensation later (regalos, pasalubong etc) and if not don't expect a repeat performance. As to the entertainnment of the extended family it is a small price to pay for the ritual "sacrifice" (wink, wink, sly giggles) of one of its young female members.

Soapy Smith
01-26-13, 08:45
they "focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED".Who makes up the list of what they need and what is on the list?

Cunning Stunt
01-26-13, 09:21
Maybe I am at odds here but I have no trouble finding 3somes and bisexual pinays who love to play with each other and do all sorts of naughty things to me LOL.Often get offered 3somes (and more!) but usually decline these days. Been there, done that (many times) and with the occasional exception has found the experience less than inspiring. The exceptions were the well trained tag teams from Eden in Bangkok before it went downhill and Devils Den in Pattaya. If you can find a true Pinay bisexual who can train another girl (as WR has) then this too can be rewarding and get 2 true Pinay bisexuals and your in dreamland. The best 3some I have had in The Philippines was a wild afternoon with Analyn and her bi-friend where we literally did everything it was possible for 2 girls and a guy to do together. Every 3some since then (except for one outstanding punt in Pattaya) has been an anti-climax.

Tally Wacker
01-26-13, 10:18
Analyn? Is that the hardcore pinay you have sharred photos of drinking cum from a wine glass? This girls photos on filipina cupid looked familiar. Is it the same girl?


Often get offered 3somes (and more!) but usually decline these days. Been there, done that (many times) and with the occasional exception has found the experience less than inspiring. The exceptions were the well trained tag teams from Eden in Bangkok before it went downhill and Devils Den in Pattaya. If you can find a true Pinay bisexual who can train another girl (as WR has) then this too can be rewarding and get 2 true Pinay bisexuals and your in dreamland. The best 3some I have had in The Philippines was a wild afternoon with Analyn and her bi-friend where we literally did everything it was possible for 2 girls and a guy to do together. Every 3some since then (except for one outstanding punt in Pattaya) has been an anti-climax.

X Man
01-26-13, 12:17
Model shot? I think not. A lot of makeup, a lot of photo editting, and maybe this gal thinks she's the cat's meow.

X Man
01-26-13, 12:49
A while back, some of you were posting funny or unusual messages resulting from you online hunts. I enjoyed those very much.

I asked a gal about her weekend. She replied,"met friends. Sleep sometime."

I decided to do the naughty test so I jokingly replied something like,". Sleeping with your friends. I hope he's handsome. LOL"

I'm pretty sure that her reply was meant to include the word "not". Her reply is below.

No, I don't sleep with my friends,

And my friends are girls, ofcours there are boyss.

But I'm sleeping with them,

Cons68
01-26-13, 13:40
You are a true family man!


But there is the case of my godson who is turning 18 soon and his dad has insisted I take him to a place to have his brains shagged out. And dad wants to come with him purely for paternal care. He is letting me tell his darling wife that I intend to honour the promise I made when he was born as I am such a good godfather LOL

Geneva Guy
01-26-13, 14:35
[QUOTE=MajorAdamHenry; 1378105]This will sound odd, but I recently visited Dubai for a week with a buddy and if you've been there, you know nearly all the help is imported from the Philippines. These beautiful ladies were everywhere.

MAH.

Have to agree with you. I hang in Singapore primarily and I find 1. The filipinas are generally looked down upon and treated badly and 2. If you show them a little kindness and treat them like a woman, they are very grateful. Now, of course (and other members will agree perhaps) , some are out for money. But many are not.

Its a real puzzle to me why people feel they can treat these girls like they are "nonpersons", but I see this in the SG maid system all the time. And your comments about Dubai mirror what one of my filipina GFs tells me about her experience when she was working there.

It's a sad world but a reality that we see how these girls can be treated.

GG

Cunning Stunt
01-27-13, 01:35
Analyn? Is that the hardcore pinay you have sharred photos of drinking cum from a wine glass? This girls photos on filipina cupid looked familiar. Is it the same girl?Nah TW, that is not her. Analyn is a real, if a little chubby for some tastes, Pinay beauty. She is, at the moment, delighting mongers in UAE (where she holds the distinction of being the only WG on ISG to have her own thread). She has her own established fan club out there.

Here are a few memories of that astonishing, fun-filled afternoon. The great thing with a bisexual nympho 3some is that whilst you are resting in-between rounds, the girls keep themselves amused. Right after snapping the last photo, I rejoined the fray, and we did the conga, with me banging the friends ass (the friend was an extremely naughty 3holer and well into kinky sex) whilst she pleasured Ana. It was a sight for sore eyes.

Cunning Stunt
01-27-13, 04:32
....and will get a good thumping. So says cuterhea of Pasig. You have just got to love these spunky girls.


hi, I'm rhealyn lagrosas.

A 20 years old.

Born on dec. 16.

I'm brown and cute.

I'm satisfied.

I like sports, like boxing and running,

I'm sexy and cute, I'm still studying.

I have lots of friends, some are gays but I'm not one of them.

I wish I can travel at any where in Philippines only.

I'm not interested in bad guy,

If your bad and perv. Guy I will hit you.

I'm good in karati,

My brothers teach me how to difence my self,

I grow up in province,

If do you want to chat me, just be honest and serious okay.

Don't be naughty, I don't like that,

Good luck.

If your not pervert.

I like you,

If your good and gentleman I like you.

If your not selfish.

We can be,

And can accept me,

God bless all

Wicked Roger
01-27-13, 04:35
This will sound odd, but I recently visited Dubai for a week with a buddy and if you've been there, you know nearly all the help is imported from the Philippines. These beautiful ladies were everywhere.

MAH.

Have to agree with you. I hang in Singapore primarily and I find 1. The filipinas are generally looked down upon and treated badly and 2. If you show them a little kindness and treat them like a woman, they are very grateful. Now, of course (and other members will agree perhaps) , some are out for money. But many are not.

Its a real puzzle to me why people feel they can treat these girls like they are "nonpersons", but I see this in the SG maid system all the time. And your comments about Dubai mirror what one of my filipina GFs tells me about her experience when she was working there.

It's a sad world but a reality that we see how these girls can be treated.

GGIn the UAE and the Middle East as a whole the pinoy is seen by the locals (Arabs) as a hard worker who won't complain. Also understand Arab mentality is such that they think they are the best so will always treat anyone but especially TCNs (third country nationals) like dogs / underlings. The DHs who work for local families have the worst deal, poor salary (unlikely to be the minimum the PI government insist on, some have no mobiles, no days off etc). They don't complain much so the locals loves them for that also

Asian Lover Oz
01-27-13, 05:53
Just be careful with what you put in DIA if you are concerned about your privacy.

I did use my real photo but age change and handle that was unrelated (or so I thought).

Just ran a google search and BANG. 1st hit was my name and photo, it picked up from another link I had totally not realised.

My DIA pic is now a resemblance rather than me!

Teamsatan
01-27-13, 17:43
While on the subject of 3somes.

Was never into it but in the phils it was almost forced upon me.

Staying at top end hotels with king size beds.

Get friendly with the girls and their friends.

Hey presto a room and a bed full of women.

If they like you then it can be party time.

Most I had in one bed was 5. And a good time was. Had by all.

Last trip I was reaching the point of no return when the girl fondling my balls whispers in my ear.

"careful where you come she has good eggs".

See the girl I was plowing was her cousin and at 21 already has 3 kids.

Made me laugh. And put me off my stroke for a while.

X Man
01-28-13, 12:20
That's interesting. Do you have any idea why this happened? What was the "other" link? Send a pm if it's too personal. I would advise anyone, if some sns wants to add your "other" friends, don't be tempted. I haven't had a problem with dia.


Just be careful with what you put in DIA if you are concerned about your privacy.

I did use my real photo but age change and handle that was unrelated (or so I thought).

Just ran a google search and BANG. 1st hit was my name and photo, it picked up from another link I had totally not realised.

My DIA pic is now a resemblance rather than me!

Screaming Beaver
01-28-13, 21:54
Recent request from a potential date when I arrive in AC:

'When you arrive in AC I'm telling you. No hunky pinky ok? '

I'm not sure if she means no hanky panky or perhaps she is not into anal. Guess I'll find out.

Vittu
01-28-13, 23:00
At this rate you should get a student loan for that kind of research. But, then, Filipinas have a language own their own, if not languages.

What's their education system like? Several girls claim B. A. 's at 20. Glorified high school?

Member #4387
01-29-13, 00:06
At this rate you should get a student loan for that kind of research. But, then, Filipinas have a language own their own, if not languages.

What's their education system like? Several girls claim B. A. 's at 20. Glorified high school?Nothing beats the philly schoolsystem as I have a 19yrs old girl claiming through her DIA profiles she has Bachelour degree allready. Maby she is so damn clever so she rushed through the system fast. I allways enjoy a good lie:-)

WestCoast1
01-29-13, 01:28
At this rate you should get a student loan for that kind of research. But, then, Filipinas have a language own their own, if not languages.

What's their education system like? Several girls claim B. A. 's at 20. Glorified high school?They graduate high school at 16, not at the 18-ish that other countries graduate. They skip middle / junior high school. RK do I have that right? Entirely possible to be done with college by 20, and if a shorter program then by 18.

WC

Hutsori
01-29-13, 02:03
What's their education system like? Several girls claim B. A. 's at 20. Glorified high school?Though there are several decent unis, and a few very good ones, diploma mills are widely attended.

Mr Enternational
01-29-13, 03:36
Nothing beats the philly schoolsystem as I have a 19yrs old girl claiming through her DIA profiles she has Bachelour degree allready. Maby she is so damn clever so she rushed through the system fast. I allways enjoy a good lie:-)That is highly possible if the education system in PI is structured anything like that in France where a baccalauréat (le bac) or bachelor's is actually what you earn after completing high school and not to be confused with what you earn after four years in the American university system.

Red Kilt
01-29-13, 04:27
They graduate high school at 16, not at the 18-ish that other countries graduate. They skip middle / junior high school. RK do I have that right? Entirely possible to be done with college by 20, and if a shorter program then by 18.Smart kids can graduate from HS at 16 and go straight to a University and after 4 years they can graduate with a degree. Not common or usual but possible.

However, except for a few better institutions (3 or 4 maximum) , most Universities are simple "diploma / degree mills" and the quality of the degree s extremely questionable.

The move towards a 12 year (+ a Kinder year) that started in this current school year (2012/2013) will mean that by around 2017/18 there will be 12 years of schooling (as the basic qualification) and 4 years of tertiary training (same as everywhere else in the world).

This change in the system is already causing a perceived shift in attitudes towards tech-voc training since that is seen as a better alternative to an extra 2 years of school plus 4 years at tertiary level.

It is likely that by the time years 11 and 12 are being undertaken at secondary level more students will be wanting to switch to tech / voc training through TESDA institutions because there is almost always the reward of a job (either in the Phils or overseas) when they have a technical diploma.

There is still a stigma attached to those who undertake tech / voc courses (only the "masa" or poor people do these courses), but the perception is slowly changing and and already we are seeing more middle-class kids enrolling in greater numbers in tech-voc programs (marine technology, auto repair etc).

This is a good thing.

By 2013, the demographic of girls working in bars and as FLs may be starting to shift.

Vittu
01-29-13, 04:46
When I look at Filipino Cupid, I see girls with primary / middle, high school, vocational and B. A. Education.

How would you characterize each group, or is that even possible?

Red Kilt
01-29-13, 06:03
When I look at Filipino Cupid, I see girls with primary / middle, high school, vocational and B. A. Education.

How would you characterize each group, or is that even possible?Absolutely not possible, in exactly the same way as it was not possible to categorize my parents back in the pre-war days. My parents did not have the access to schooling that I had but in no way did it diminish intelligence or their ability to make their way successfully in the world.

The level of schooling has absolutely no bearing on whether they will be "hot to trot" except for the disclaimers in the following.

Of course, as a general rule, the poorer (aka under-educated girls) are usually more "desperate" to meet someone who can help them out of poverty, and that sometimes means a foreigner, regardless of age.

As another general rule, well-educated women from the upper middle class families are NOT interested in the everyday foreigner / tourist as they target rich contemporary men from the established colleges. Being seen with an older foreigner stigmatizes them as being either easy or flirty or, heaven forbid, a prostie.

You might notice that filipina profiles on most chat boards are pretty much the ONLY ones who say "all ages" or "18 to 80" in the men they seek. Most other countries the girls say 20 to 30 or 30 to 40 or at least ages that are close to their own. The Philippines seems to be the only place where girls don't care. Any age will do as long as he is a foreigner and he is breathing LOL.

Note that I GENERALISED in the preceding comments. Someone will have a story that contravenes my general rules as though it disproves what I said but IN GENERAL, what I said is, I believe, true.

*NB In Post 6600 below I meant to say "By 2020" in my final line (I wrote 2013 by mistake but I guess it could still be shifting all the way up to 2020)

Pete Benetar
01-29-13, 07:23
You might notice that filipina profiles on most chat boards are pretty much the ONLY ones who say "all ages" or "18 to 80" in the men they seek. Most other countries the girls say 20 to 30 or 30 to 40 or at least ages that are close to their own. The Philippines seems to be the only place where girls don't care.With slight exception of continent of Africa, though admittedly a minor variation in venue.

Red Kilt
01-29-13, 08:21
. .

You might notice that filipina profiles on most chat boards are pretty much the ONLY ones who say "all ages" or "18 to 80" in the men they seek. Most other countries the girls say 20 to 30 or 30 to 40 or at least ages that are close to their own. The Philippines seems to be the only place where girls don't care. Any age will do as long as he is a foreigner and he is breathing LOL.In this past week I have also had 2 different independent chat contacts very keen to meet me even though my age is outside their limits and they have not seen what I look like. I do NOT post a photo on any of the sites. They both look very presentable in their profiles.

When I pointed this out to them that they did not know what I looked like and that I was older than they preferred they both responded in a similar way. Paraphrasing, they said it didn't matter because I seemed nice; it didn't matter what I looked like and age was just a number blah blah blah.

Needless to say I never met them. They may have been bakla (ladyboys) which is unlikely as I am a reasonable judge and the stats seemed unlikely too, but more importantly, I was not wanting to meet women who appear SO desperate to meet ANYONE, and were prepared to meet me sight unseen. I certainly wouldn't meet anyone that I had never seen on cam or in pic.

KongKing
01-29-13, 09:23
I do NOT post a photo on any of the sites.I have a photo on DIA and every once in a while I take the "old" one off and post a new one, in the perhaps unjustified belief that a fresh face may reignite a conversation. I certainly don't mind a "you are looking younger" message! I was without a DIA photo yesterday for a few hours, just a question-mark appeared. I was surprised to discover that I could only send one reply every 6 hours without a posted photo. That must slow your messaging down a bit RK and others without a photo? So I quickly posted a photo.

I also notice that DIA must now have improved photo screening technology, and if not automatically approved a photo may take 2 days before manual approval. Initial rejection may occur if the screening process cannot recognise a face, or that it is covered or masked with objects. I had glasses on with a small photo flash reflection on the lens, That was sufficient for an automatic rejection, so I tried, successfully, with another photo without the flash reflection.

Asian Lover Oz
01-29-13, 10:20
Well, I used the same handle on a professional forum quite a while ago with my real name etc.

I picked the same name in DIA not remembering about the first one.

So when you searched my handle name in google it showed me there on DIA with photo and then the next few lines were hits from the other forum with name etc.

Now they both show up but the DIA pic isn't me so less to worry about.

Was thinking of deleting DIA and starting again as you can't change your handle it seems.


That's interesting. Do you have any idea why this happened? What was the "other" link? Send a pm if it's too personal. I would advise anyone, if some sns wants to add your "other" friends, don't be tempted. I haven't had a problem with dia.

X Man
01-29-13, 12:24
I'm not sure I follow this completely. With no pic, it seems that all girls you communicate with are somewhat "desperate". I'm using your definition very loosly, sorry. At what point do you decide she is less desperate than the others?

One time I had a real stunner show up at my hotel room door. When I opened the door my jaw must have dropped. She also looked surprised, and asked,"Are you XM?" Later she said that, considering the circumstances, whe was expecting a fat old codger.

Wait a minute. Now that I think about it the gal was full of compliments from beginning to end. Maybe she had a degree in psychology, who knows. LOL.


SNIP.

Needless to say I never met them. SNIP, but more importantly, I was not wanting to meet women who appear SO desperate to meet ANYONE, and were prepared to meet me sight unseen. I certainly wouldn't meet anyone that I had never seen on cam or in pic.

Hutsori
01-29-13, 14:11
In this past week I have also had 2 different independent chat contacts very keen to meet me even though my age is outside their limits and they have not seen what I look like. I do NOT post a photo on any of the sites. They both look very presentable in their profiles.

When I pointed this out to them that they did not know what I looked like and that I was older than they preferred they both responded in a similar way. Paraphrasing, they said it didn't matter because I seemed nice; it didn't matter what I looked like and age was just a number blah blah blah.

Needless to say I never met them. They may have been bakla (ladyboys) which is unlikely as I am a reasonable judge and the stats seemed unlikely too, but more importantly, I was not wanting to meet women who appear SO desperate to meet ANYONE, and were prepared to meet me sight unseen. I certainly wouldn't meet anyone that I had never seen on cam or in pic.Seems you've snookered yourself. You don't post a photo, and you suspect the girls who will meet you without seeing one. Something has to give. Or you're just wasting your time.

Wicked Roger
01-29-13, 14:24
One time I had a real stunner show up at my hotel room door. When I opened the door my jaw must have dropped. She also looked surprised, and asked,"Are you XM?" Later she said that, considering the circumstances, whe was expecting a fat old codger.

Wait a minute. Now that I think about it the gal was full of compliments from beginning to end. Maybe she had a degree in psychology, who knows. LOL.XMan she definitely had that degree as how could she not miss you as you described. As for me it is a fat old kinky codger before anyone says it LOL

Sammon
01-29-13, 15:45
of course, as a general rule, the poorer (aka under-educated girls) are usually more "desperate" to meet someone who can help them out of poverty, and that sometimes means a foreigner, regardless of age.

as another general rule, well-educated women from the upper middle class families are not interested in the everyday foreigner / tourist as they target rich contemporary men from the established colleges. being seen with an older foreigner stigmatizes them as being either easy or flirty or, heaven forbid, a prostie.

you might notice that filipina profiles on most chat boards are pretty much the only ones who say "all ages" or "18 to 80" in the men they seek. most other countries the girls say 20 to 30 or 30 to 40 or at least ages that are close to their own. the philippines seems to be the only place where girls don't care. any age will do as long as he is a foreigner and he is breathing lol.most girls if not all in phi know what foreigners come there for. many hope they can trap somebody into marriage or long term support.

in any country it is the poor and vulnerable girls who readily agree to be with men any age. educated and upper class girls do not even bother unless you are closer to their age. atleast in dia i have not seen many well educated girls as far as their profile goes.

it used to be all of asia girls did not care how old the guys are for dating. as economic and education levels and ofcourse worldwide sensibilities through news coverage has evolved these days many normal girls want relationships with people closer to their age. ofcourse if you happen to meet them and they like you it is a different matter.

i have seen the changes in the attitude of chinese girls. when the country was poor girls are ready to be with any old guy. now it is becoming extremely difficult to bed normal young girls.

even thailand, laos, cambodia, japan attitudes have changed. cambodia is mainly because of info on **** sex traffic.

only phi is left to get young girls irrespective of your age. also they have no qualms being seen together and readily engage in sex without reservation.

if phi one day becomes affluent it will all stop.

Wicked Roger
01-29-13, 17:15
If Phi one day becomes affluent it will all stop.Well that means we are all safe for another hundred years or more or at last until we are well and truly 6 feet under LOL

FreebieFan
01-30-13, 01:45
For instance, young JJhen2013. She says "I have long black hair under my waist "

For those who like the shaved look she's clearly not for you. LOL.

FreebieFan
01-30-13, 01:49
I have seen the changes in the attitude of Chinese girls. When the country was poor girls are ready to be with any old guy. Now it is becoming extremely difficult to bed normal young girls.My current roster of lovelies in Beijing is 19, 23, 24 and 27, and 28 (and a 34) All are proper and decent girls with jobs.

I'm 55. But yes, as the country get more weathly our attraction to them probably dimisinshes.

FreebieFan
01-30-13, 01:51
Seems you've snookered yourself. You don't post a photo, and you suspect the girls who will meet you without seeing one. Something has to give. Or you're just wasting your time.Do us all a favour. Drink your coffee nice and slowly today. Look out whatever window you can see and enjoy the view. Try and find something positive to say and enjoy life. Or stay off ISG, as its clearly not helping you enjoy your life.

Hibukhibok
01-30-13, 02:17
For instance, young JJhen2013. She says "I have long black hair under my waist "

For those who like the shaved look she's clearly not for you. LOL.Come on you know what she means and that must quite nice, just think of all the possibilities. As to the hair under her waist, silky or bushy, how delightful. A shaved Asian pussy does turn me on, sorry, I find this almost disturbing.

Red Kilt
01-30-13, 03:49
Seems you've snookered yourself. You don't post a photo, and you suspect the girls who will meet you without seeing one. Something has to give. Or you're just wasting your time.Lost in translation I fear, or perhaps my clarity of description was insufficient.

Of course they see me once we establish contact, through pics sent to email and also through webcam. My profile explains WHY I don't have a photo, and once girls read my profile, they usually accept the reason.

The point I was making was, simply, that there are girls (including the 2 examples that I used) , who were prepared to travel to meet me WITHOUT having seen me before, a point well illustrated by X Man's story. That, to me anyway, smacks of "desperation" on their part to meet a foreigner.

No way would I ever plan to meet ANYBODY that I had no idea what she looked like. I am not that desperate.

FreebieFan
01-30-13, 07:11
Ok the gal with the " long hair under her waist " has now corrected it.

Meanwhile have a look at GoodGirlRose

" I want to meet a Male

With age from 25 to 80

I am looking for the good person that I know I can't trust "

Well that sounds like MOST of us.

Red Kilt
01-30-13, 08:23
Come on you know what she means and that must quite nice, just think of all the possibilities. As to the hair under her waist, silky or bushy, how delightful. A shaved Asian pussy does turn me on, sorry, I find this almost disturbing.Come on H, don't you have a sense of humor?

We have been sharing some of the funny things they say. The girls know what they are trying to say and we know what they mean but some of the way these things are expressed is FUNNY. This one, with hair down to and past her waist, gave rise to am ambiguous interpretation.

That's what FF was referring to.

At least she didn't spell "waist" as "waste". Then it would have been even funnier.

Topmanten
01-30-13, 18:06
A dia girl txt me to sell her virginity for 15000peso, is it reasonable?

How I know that she is really virgin.

Thanks for all help.

TMT

Hibukhibok
01-30-13, 20:43
My current roster of lovelies in Beijing is 19, 23, 24 and 27, and 28 (and a 34) All are proper and decent girls with jobs.

I'm 55. But yes, as the country get more wealthy our attraction to them probably diminishes.Wow that's SIX! I should review your posts, you must have a very attractive personality not to mention the means.

There are few Chinese on DIA, but they often seem interesting, educated, even writing long poems, demanding, sometimes pretty.

Anyway I am too old and too poor to afford to afford such rich fare, will stick with pinays until I am "80" as many say. And who knows maybe beyond as "hope springs eternal".

A little ditty about "ambitious" Chinese girls (a cartoon which I found in Far Eastern arts magazine of all places) :

Me no worry.

Me no care.

Me go marry.

Millionaire.

If he die.

Me no cry.

Go back Shanghai.

Get other rich guy.

Not too sure about the last 2 verses (kind of reconstituted here as I forgot them) but you do get the idea.

Mr Enternational
01-30-13, 22:58
A dia girl txt me to sell her virginity for 15000peso, is it reasonable?

How I know that she is really virgin.

Thanks for all help.

TMTOf course 15000 is reasonable. I would try to talk her down to 1000 though. It doesn't matter whether she is really a virgin. What matters is if you think she is a virgin.

FruitNinja
01-30-13, 23:09
Of course 15000 is reasonable. I would try to talk her down to 1000 though. It doesn't matter whether she is really a virgin. What matters is if you think she is a virgin.Does she give good head? I got offered a virgin in Turkey. The "pimp" said she had only been ass f*ked. Well that's not really a virgin now is it? To [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off I'll offer 20, 000.

FreebieFan
01-31-13, 03:37
Wow that's SIX! I should review your posts, you must have a very attractive personality not to mention the means.

There are few Chinese on DIA, but they often seem interesting, educated, even writing long poems, demanding, sometimes pretty.

Anyway I am too old and too poor to afford to afford such rich fare, will stick with pinays until I am "80" as many say. And who knows maybe beyond as "hope springs eternal".

A little ditty about "ambitious" Chinese girls (a cartoon which I found in Far Eastern arts magazine of all places) :

Me no worry.

Me no care.

Me go marry.

Millionaire.

If he die.

Me no cry.

Go back Shanghai.

Get other rich guy.

Not too sure about the last 2 verses (kind of reconstituted here as I forgot them) but you do get the idea.Nice one. Well I struggle with loyalty. I've tried thinking that Filipinas are the best, then I go to Thailand and figure they are super sweet till they prove they are money hungry avariscious honeys. So then I go to Jakarta and darn. They are truly exotic, weird but wonderful also. Then I go to China and make myself a great set up but still hanker for the pinays. So two of my ladies in China are pinays LOL. So to see how this will play, I'm taking a hot Chinese honey to Manila with me soon. Will have a rest from pinay pounding but will be able to see them with clear eyes (ie when I don't have my hunting / seeking attitude ). Should be enjoyable. Because for sure I know I will be getting it breakfast lunch and dinner.

Cuba Tourist
01-31-13, 03:59
I met a really pretty girl who said she sold her virginity for 7, 000 but I know in the bars they want much more.

I had a date with a Chinese girl in Cebu. She was richer than I. By alot- and I never even got a kiss from her.

Hutsori
01-31-13, 06:59
A dia girl txt me to sell her virginity for 15000peso, is it reasonable?

How I know that she is really virgin.

Thanks for all help.

TMTFar cheaper than the girl (Brazilian?) who sold hers for a few hundred thousand dollars. It's approx. double what you'll pay at a few places in Burgos for a well-loved firecracker and 4 times more than an Angeles City star. Anyway, I'd pass. Prefer a Porsche with a few digits on the milometer to a new Hyundai.

How to tell? I guess the closest yet not surefire way is to take her to an OB / GYN, but a hymen can be broken without intercourse. I know hymen reconstruction is done by some cherry girls who prey upon older Chinese blokes who pay much more that p15k. If she is indeed a virgin and you take her do what some Muslims do and hang the soiled bed sheet from your window afterwards. Then everyone will know.

Hutsori
01-31-13, 07:26
Of course they see me once we establish contact, through pics sent to email and also through webcam. My profile explains WHY I don't have a photo, and once girls read my profile, they usually accept the reason.

The point I was making was, simply, that there are girls (including the 2 examples that I used) , who were prepared to travel to meet me WITHOUT having seen me before, a point well illustrated by X Man's story. That, to me anyway, smacks of "desperation" on their part to meet a foreigner.Much clearer. Of course you're limiting yourself to far fewer views; I recall the default search setting is show only results with photo. Whether desperate to meet a foreigner or to earn some pesos or just enjoy near anonymous sex is up to debate. As we're aware many escort / massage agencies dispatch their girls with little more than an address.

I'm curious what you write in your profile to explain the absence of the photo.

Here's one from FC:


OVERTSEXUAL GIRL 4 SUCCESSFUL MEN; SKIN2SKIN ONLY.

I am 24. Graduated as a Nurse in May 2012. Now waiting for my December Nursing Licence exam result due in Feb My Interest is Very Simple. It is MEN. I Love Good Things of Life and Work Hard to get them. Traveled to Singapore and Hong Kong before but of course travel around the world each night in my dreams. Serious, Sexy and Bold but need a mature MENTOR. Younger Guys also Welcome.

BOLD, CONFIDENT, MATURE, SOPHISTICATED, SUCCESSFUL, WELL SETTLED MEN who know what they want. Preferably single. LIVING in Manila or VISITING in Next Three Months. Looks are Not Important but Personality is Totally Important. Age is not Relevant. You don't have to be older to be mature I guess! Must be educated and a college grad. Respectful to a woman. To get an instant NO from me you can try calling me Honey Sweety Baby etc. To get my interest you should be interesting to my mind. Thank You. SexiaIn her photo it seems she's being buggered.

Hibukhibok
02-01-13, 05:08
A dia girl txt me to sell her virginity for 15000peso, is it reasonable?

How do I know that she is really a virgin.

Thanks for all help.

TMTHow old is she? I suppose you could remotely examine her very carefully with a cam (with some help on her part) if you are not with her that is. She may agree as a cam is not as "threatening" as the real thing and unlikely to cause harm. But after that I would not expect a discount or at least not a big one. You may also have to pay for the cam.

Or arrange a twosome with another girl who happens to be a midwife and who will "certify" her! In the Phils this kind of arrangement seems to me highly posible and after that who knows, the midwife may herself etc.

Topmanten
02-01-13, 16:18
She is 21, student, is it normal to be virgin at 21 in manila? Can I trust her claim of virgin?

TMT


How old is she? I suppose you could remotely examine her very carefully with a cam (with some help on her part) if you are not with her that is. She may agree as a cam is not as "threatening" as the real thing and unlikely to cause harm. But after that I would not expect a discount or at least not a big one. You may also have to pay for the cam.

Or arrange a twosome with another girl who happens to be a midwife and who will "certify" her! In the Phils this kind of arrangement seems to me highly posible and after that who knows, the midwife may herself etc.

D Cups
02-01-13, 16:49
She is 21, student, is it normal to be virgin at 21 in manila? Can I trust her claim of virgin?

TMTTMT,

Well, she could be a virgin, especially if from the province but unless you want to marry her, who cares? Even if you marry her would you want someone who is completely inexperienced? Sorry, I don't understand the desire for a virgin. Then again, my GF in Cebu never had a white guy before me. I'm pretty sure about that because her pussy is the tightest I've ever had. But she sure knows how to twist and shout when I'm doing her!

Sammon
02-01-13, 17:13
A dia girl txt me to sell her virginity for 15000peso, is it reasonable?

How I know that she is really virgin.

Thanks for all help.

TMT15, 000 pesos is not a whole lot of money for you to take the plunge and see. However it is still a lot of money to a province girl who has never worked in bars. However I would suggest telling her that you will keep her for 2-3 days. It is always the sex after de-virginisation is good for the girl and you. Even if she turned out to be fake you minimize your loss because you had her for three days.

I have had two virgins and it cost me more on the long run supporting their studies and expenses. I did get good sex from them long time. Maybe you should tell this girl that you will support her studies. But if she is not pretty or nice you will be kicking yourself why you made the deal.

One of my girlfriends had a sister who is a virgin. I believe she turned 18 last October. I told my gf if she wants to sell her virginity maybe she should look into going to AC where I have heard some pay upto 100, 000 pesos.

Later I heard her sister declined for whatever reason. If it was offered to me at 15, 000 pesos I would have taken the offer irrespective of she is a real virgin or not.

There are times I have spent upwards of 8000 pesos in one night in AC. I am sure others have spent more than that.

Unfortunately you will not know if she is a real virgin till you do the act. Lots of guys in AC has been fooled according to some girls. By the time the guy gets around to sex he is too drunk and does not remember anything. There are lots of fake virgins in AC.

There is no point in taking her to a doctor to certify. If it is a Phi doctor he will have no qualms certifying her as they tend to side with locals.

Member #4351
02-01-13, 18:11
Unfortunately you will not know if she is a real virgin till you do the act.Just do the tongue test. Even if she doesn't have the entire hymen present due to bike riding or whatever (50% of virgins don't have a complete hymen) , you can still feel the edges of it and pussy will probably be tight and closed. If the tongue goes in without encountering anything at all, then she almost certainly isn't a virgin.

Hibukhibok
02-01-13, 20:58
She is 21, student, is it normal to be virgin at 21 in manila? Can I trust her claim of virgin?

TMTI suspect that you are having fun at our expense, seems a lot of fuss for a few square centimeters of skin and flesh.

Don't know about Manila but I have had three (only three, pitiful, don't laugh) virgins elsewhere in the Phils (Davao, Cebu). And they were older than 21, the oldest a few days shy of a 28th BD (a spinster so to speak there) , the youngest 24 and the last one in the middle (surprise).

And none of them put a monetary value on their maidenhood (but they had no reason to complain about me peso wise).

A completely overrated experience in itself if you ask me, although it may perhaps be great for your ego and therefore well worth the money. And after taking care of her pussy what are your plans, dump / keep her? Lower her to 10k and go on with it, if it turns out that she fooled you welcome to the school of hard knocks and believe me you will (and probably have) be the victim of many worse scams in your life (employers, insurance companies, banks etc).

I had much more fun, satisfaction and even genuine affection from a lovely, nice, grateful, kind and eager 25 yo single mom.

Hibukhibok
02-01-13, 21:11
Just do the tongue test. Even if she doesn't have the entire hymen present due to bike riding or whatever (50% of virgins don't have a complete hymen) , you can still feel the edges of it and pussy will probably be tight and closed. If the tongue goes in without encountering anything at all, then she almost certainly isn't a virgin.Perhaps but if I trust the gynecological books of my late (doctor) dad, remains of the hymen, scar tissue, may persist even after (a) birth (s). As to the tongue test nice suggestion, BTW how long is your tongue?

Radical Guy
02-01-13, 23:35
She is 21, student, is it normal to be virgin at 21 in manila? Can I trust her claim of virgin?

TMTMy wife's aunt, from Davao, is 41, and just got married to a 65-year-old American guy who brought over on a fiancee visa. According to my wife, her aunt was a virgin on her wedding day. I don't know how she could know this for certain, but she swears up and down that she is very close to this aunt and knows for a fact that the aunt would never misrepresent this fact. I do know that the aunt did not have sex with the American guy, even during their engagement (something that the guy amazingly admitted to me) , and waited until they officially tied the knot in the US. Well, if true, that guy has a helluva lot more patience and fortitude than yours truly! .

RG

Member #4351
02-01-13, 23:54
BTW how long is your tongue?Long enough. The hymen isn't that far inside.

Chocha Monger
02-02-13, 01:32
Filipinas give their virginity to guys they like without charge. Their pinoy first loves are not paying one peso for the privilege of being the first to enter them. Any Filipina offering her 'virginity' for sale should be considered highly suspect. Truly virgin Filipinas are usually very conservative and are highly unlikely to be calling for bids for foreigners to penetrate their pussies. Also, it is difficult, if not impossible, for Westerners to know if a girl is really a virgin solely through penetration in many cases. Pinays without kids tend to be naturally tight. If they have only been penetrated once or twice by a local solely for the bragging rights associated with defloration, then it will not be unusual for her to bleed and penetration to be difficult as though it were her first time when a foreigner roots her. Most likely, Topmanten is being offered sex with a 'berjin. ' She has only been rooted by a local once or twice in the pussy and there's no telling how many times in the ass and mouth. It really doesn't matter. He wouldn't be able to tell the difference based on all the questions he's been asking anyway. After all, he's not really paying for a hymen. He's paying for the fantasy of being the first man to sex the girl. Knowing how convincing Filipinas can be, there is no doubt she'll squirm around, clench her pussy muscles when he tries to enter, and scream 'Oh you so beg! ' She'll need to check her poor little puss after Topmanten nuts, only to emerge from the comfort room with her panty liners soiled with a few drops of 'blood' as evidence that he popped her cherry. Topmanten, reassured of his manliness and having gotten his 15, 000 pesos worth, rushes online to make a field report of his first virgin kill to ISG.

Topmanten
02-02-13, 06:49
I am going to pay her 5000peso per night for 3 nights, thats what is agreed, so my risk is minimised.

Thanks a lot for your inputs, will report here once it is done.

Thanks,

TMT


15, 000 pesos is not a whole lot of money for you to take the plunge and see. However it is still a lot of money to a province girl who has never worked in bars. However I would suggest telling her that you will keep her for 2-3 days. It is always the sex after de-virginisation is good for the girl and you. Even if she turned out to be fake you minimize your loss because you had her for three days.

I have had two virgins and it cost me more on the long run supporting their studies and expenses. I did get good sex from them long time. Maybe you should tell this girl that you will support her studies. But if she is not pretty or nice you will be kicking yourself why you made the deal.

One of my girlfriends had a sister who is a virgin. I believe she turned 18 last October. I told my gf if she wants to sell her virginity maybe she should look into going to AC where I have heard some pay upto 100, 000 pesos.

Later I heard her sister declined for whatever reason. If it was offered to me at 15, 000 pesos I would have taken the offer irrespective of she is a real virgin or not.

There are times I have spent upwards of 8000 pesos in one night in AC. I am sure others have spent more than that.

Unfortunately you will not know if she is a real virgin till you do the act. Lots of guys in AC has been fooled according to some girls. By the time the guy gets around to sex he is too drunk and does not remember anything. There are lots of fake virgins in AC.

There is no point in taking her to a doctor to certify. If it is a Phi doctor he will have no qualms certifying her as they tend to side with locals.

Hibukhibok
02-02-13, 19:55
Long enough. The hymen isn't that far inside.Asi no es necesario tener una lengua muy larga? Thanks, I figured already as much. My dad's old fashioned obstetrics book was full of interesting details, virgins giving birth very rare but it could happen (you can guess how they became embarazadas) , more extraordinary but possible were women having orgasms during childbirth (between painful episodes but still) or women (even more rare) having two pregnancies at once with different delivery dates because of a double uterus (uterus didelphys, look up wilipedia).

Hibukhibok
02-02-13, 21:32
Filipinas give their virginity to guys they like without charge.

Snip snip snip various words of wisdom.

Topmanten, reassured of his manliness and having gotten his 15, 000 pesos worth, rushes online to make a field report of his first virgin kill to ISG.I am eagerly awaiting his account, maybe a pussy shot with a few drops of blood, we need entertainement for us in europe or north america during these dreary winter days.

Actually it's birhen in tagalog and cebuano although berjin is close enough I suppose.

Birhen is a very important word for catholic girls in the Phils. Panginoon (Lord) also.

Take a young filipina to church, act well the part yourself and you will gain her heart and you will be 3/4 of the way to her pussy. Catholic preferably, stay away from the crazies, pentacostal, born again, iglesia ni kristo etc.

Now for you wretched souls well on your way to monger hell a delightful choir of Filipino children (including moslem girls!)

Add you. Tube. Com then / watch? V=zdf-760HqWQ.

Authentic words (and very relevant) :

Because of the "yes" the girl gave to the priest she entered the church free but left it a prisoner.

(por el si que dio la nina al senor cura en la iglesia entro libre why salio presa).

Member #4351
02-02-13, 22:15
Nice singing, but not sure it belongs on ISG. Could be misconstrued by the parasitic NGOs and their ilk who visit us daily.

Hibukhibok
02-02-13, 23:10
Nice singing, but not sure it belongs on ISG. Could be misconstrued by the parasitic NGOs and their ilk who visit us daily.Point well taken, ok just a little joke sorry, lo siento mucho senor, actually I made a big mistake the kids are Indonesian not Filipinos. Since it was originally a Spanish song I blithely assumed Philippines.

It was just a digression on the theme that the very catholic filipinas (and possibly the "better" ones) can be accessed through "other" means. But it can be a dangerous game.

Hibukhibok
02-03-13, 00:05
That is highly possible if the education system in PI is structured anything like that in France where a baccalauréat (le bac) or bachelor's is actually what you earn after completing high school and not to be confused with what you earn after four years in the American university system.The educational system in the Phils has nothing to do with France, if anything it appears to be an abbreviated version of the American system, except in the fantastically expensive private international schools in Manila. Judging by the number of Filipino graduates that I see in the US the top schools appear to do a good job (nurses, IT, teachers, accountants) but the females (the majority) are very conservative / catholic and most end up marrying a compatriot if they are not already married in the Phils. I live on the east coast, the situation could be quite different on the west coast.

Hibukhibok
02-03-13, 21:10
Any idea why there appears (relatively speaking) to be so many DIA filipinas in Norway or Denmark? Cruise ship industry or simply au pair? The cold weather, the long winter nights or the reserved nordic temperament aggravate their loneliness? But travel within Europe is easy nowadays and advertising there maybe worthwhile if it turns out that the locals are not enterprising enough or not interested. Of course I could ask them. But there are a lot. If you live in Paris Oslo is lot easier and cheaper to get to than Manila.

Mr Enternational
02-03-13, 23:34
Any idea why there appears (relatively speaking) to be so many DIA filipinas in Norway or Denmark? Cruise ship industry or simply au pair? The cold weather, the long winter nights or the reserved nordic temperament aggravate their loneliness? But travel within Europe is easy nowadays and advertising there maybe worthwhile if it turns out that the locals are not enterprising enough or not interested. Of course I could ask them. But there are a lot. If you live in Paris Oslo is lot easier and cheaper to get to than Manila.Why? Because those are the guys who are marrying Thais and Filipinas. I also know some Brazilians that guys have scooped up and taken that way. Sweeden as well. People on cruise ships don't have time for DIA, and neither do au pairs. DIA is for broads who are sitting around with nothing else to do.

Screaming Beaver
02-03-13, 23:54
Any idea why there appears (relatively speaking) to be so many DIA filipinas in Norway or Denmark?I think I may know the answer. A few years back a Filipina told me the best guys to marry are from northern Europe. She went on to say that the divorce laws there are much more friendly than other countries in getting a good settlement, even after a short term marriage. Perhaps some old coot with wooden shoes can chime in to confirm whether or not this is true.

Member #4387
02-04-13, 00:35
Beeing norwegian I can verify that atleast Norway is crowded by au pairs or fortuneseekers as I call them. Their goal is next to earn enough money to send back home(minimum earning as au pair is around 50000php per month and they have free housing, phone, travelcard, food and education) to try to get married or atleast meet a friendly norwegian, preferably old guy, hehe.

I am happy for every au pair entering Norway as they could provide new faces to my norwegian mongerfleet(i am only 40)..

And yes we have relaxed rules and regulations when it comes to divorcing (as in easy to obtain). The rules are fair for both parts and it is easy, if you are not blinded or stupid, to secure your belongings / values to prevent a fortuneseeking wife to run off with everything after a divorce. I don't know if this arrangement have an english name but it is based out of "what you bring in to the marriage / relationship you take back when splitting up". This also applies for people only living together. So money in ones bankaccount are untouchable and other stuff of great value as well (apt, houses, properties, furniture, cars, jewlery etc). This if you do everything right and don't write agreement owning 50/50 (only stupid people do). But a pinay girl could easily end up with a dinnertable with chairs if you bought it together while you stayed together.

But I guess many people are kindhearted so some pinays can get good settlement ageement as well. Far to many people have far to much money so they realy don't give a shit. And girls are never free anyway even if it is for relationship use or mongering. Some compensation I am sure they diserve anyhow.

Ps! And almost all pinay girls in dia norway are au pairs. They have regulated workinghours as well..

Pete Benetar
02-04-13, 01:29
Beeing norwegian I can verify that atleast Norway is crowded by au pairs or fortuneseekers as I call them. Their goal is next to earn enough money to send back home (minimum earning as au pair is around 50000php per month and they have free housing, phone, travelcard, food and education) to try to get married or atleast meet a friendly norwegian, preferably old guy, hehe.

I am happy for every au pair entering Norway as they could provide new faces to my norwegian mongerfleet (I am only 40).

I don't know if this arrangement have an english name but it is based out of "what you bring in to the marriage / relationship you take back when splitting up"Tangiential thread on AC and the contract is a prenuptial for marriage or, with non marital, a cohabitation agreement (in USA). Au pairing can be more expensive as a mongering import (min wages I think are similar as you cite in the USA) but also messy labor laws, benefits etc etc. I considered this option, but sponsoring a girl for a study visa was simpler for me.

Curious, Skogis, if you've seen any / many Africans as I've corresponded with a few african girls there and back in Africa. Seems like the better looking ones could have found mongerers or sugar daddies to sponsor or marry them.

Hibukhibok
02-04-13, 20:52
Being norwegian I can verify that atleast Norway is crowded by au pairs or fortuneseekers as I call them. Their goal is next to earn enough money to send back home (minimum earning as au pair is around 50000php per month and they have free housing, phone, travelcard, food and education) to try to get married or atleast meet a friendly norwegian, preferably old guy, hehe.

I am happy for every au pair entering Norway as they could provide new faces to my norwegian mongerfleet (I am only 40).

And yes we have relaxed rules and regulations when it comes to divorcing (as in easy to obtain). The rules are fair for both parts and it is easy, if you are not blinded or stupid, to secure your belongings / values to prevent a fortuneseeking wife to run off with everything after a divorce. I don't know if this arrangement have an english name but it is based out of "what you bring in to the marriage / relationship you take back when splitting up". This also applies for people only living together. So money in ones bankaccount are untouchable and other stuff of great value as well (apt, houses, properties, furniture, cars, jewlery etc). This if you do everything right and don't write agreement owning 50/50 (only stupid people do). But a pinay girl could easily end up with a dinnertable with chairs if you bought it together while you stayed together.

But I guess many people are kindhearted so some pinays can get good settlement ageement as well. Far to many people have far to much money so they realy don't give a shit. And girls are never free anyway even if it is for relationship use or mongering. Some compensation I am sure they deserve anyhow.

Ps! And almost all pinay girls in dia norway are au pairs. They have regulated workinghours as well.Thanks for your interesting answer. It seems that somehow Pinays can end up legally in Norway much more easily than say France (which is pretty draconian immigration wise unless of course you are a hard core polygamist coming from [your choice here] with all your wives, concubines, children, parents and relatives, in which case you are simply waved at the border and made eligible immediately for all the benefits that the French state can and does bestow in such cases).

This difference in treatment is bizarre among Schengen nations.

As I have found out it was very difficult to bring your kirida to Fance, RT airline tickets, supporting affidavits written by my mom and certified by the mayor of the town where she lived close to Paris, hotel reservations, bank statements, proof of legit job or business in the Phils etc. Nothing doing. The wardens at the French Embassy / Consulate on Ayala Avenue are doing their jobs extremely well, I assume that the Norwegians are friendlier.

The tripping questions during the French interview is "what do you intend to do in France", if the unfortunate Pinay does includes among her answers "go to Lourdes on pilgrimage" she is immediately disqualified by the interviewer. In my case, a little irate I asked later once why and the beautiful answer was "most Filipinas say that", yes indeed, most are fiercely catholic and some are even called "Lourdes" themselves. All notions beyond the comprehension of confirmed leftists.

There are I would estimate probably 100, 000 Filipinos in France, mostly women and mostly illegal, of various backgrounds and variously treated. Norway is part of the Schengen area (look up wikipedia) and therefore your Pinay once there can go to Paris (or better yet Rome) w / o having to produce her passport (theoretically).

I wish such things had been possible possible during my stupidly wasted youth, actually quite prolonged youth. A pinay in my bed without having to endure her relatives, heat rash, the humidity, jollibees, jeepneys, sunburns, poisonous jellyfish and venomous urchins (the joys of diving).

Hikes in comfortable weather, no typhoons. Lucky Norwegians! Trip to Oslo? Pretty late now, I have blue eyes and blond hair (oops white now) but not the Viking profile (only 167 cm). Not that a true Pinay would care actually. But she would care about my now depleted bank account, one Fil-Am daughter still in college.

Good luck with your exotic mongering yet without living home! Watching the Aurora Borealis with a young and beautiful Pinay in your arms (warmly clothed) I envy you.

Somehow this business is reminiscent of the "fishing fleet" of spinsters and marriageable (or unmarriageable) British women which ended up yearly on the shores of India in search of spouses during the long gone colonial days.

Member #4387
02-04-13, 21:34
The wardens at the French Embassy / Consulate on Ayala Avenue are doing their jobs extremely well, I assume that the Norwegians are friendlier.

The tripping questions during the French interview is "what do you intend to do in France", if the unfortunate Pinay does includes among her answers "go to Lourdes on pilgrimage" she is immediately disqualified by the interviewer. In my case, a little irate I asked later once why and the beautiful answer was "most Filipinas say that", yes indeed, most are fiercely catholic and some are even called "Lourdes" themselves. All notions beyond the comprehension of confirmed leftists.

There are I would estimate probably 100, 000 Filipinos in France, mostly women and mostly illegal, of various backgrounds and variously treated. Norway is part of the Schengen area (look up wikipedia) and therefore your Pinay once there can go to Paris (or better yet Rome) w / o having to produce her passport (theoretically).

I wish such things had been possible possible during my stupidly wasted youth, actually quite prolonged youth. A pinay in my bed without having to endure her relatives, heat rash, the humidity, jollibees, jeepneys, sunburns, poisonous jellyfish and venomous urchins (the joys of diving).

Hikes in comfortable weather, no typhoons. Lucky Norwegians! Trip to Oslo? Pretty late now, I have blue eyes and blond hair (oops white now) but not the Viking profile (only 167 cm). Not that a true Pinay would care actually. But she would care about my now depleted bank account, one Fil-Am daughter still in college.

Good luck with your exotic mongering yet without living home! Watching the Aurora Borealis with a young and beautiful Pinay in your arms (warmly clothed) I envy you.

Somehow this business is reminiscent of the "fishing fleet" of spinsters and marriageable (or unmarriageable) British women which ended up yearly on the shores of India in search of spouses during the long gone colonial days.Oh I don't think the staff at the norwegian embassy are any kinder than the french officials. I was only refering to Norway and crowd of pinays as in au pairs. They are qualified through some au pair agencies which again are approved of the norwegian government. Maximum stay is 2 years. Au pairs are much wanted as it seems no one in the cities watch their kids anymore and even less wants to clean their own house, hehe. As for obvious reasons I also enjoy the au pairs but I want them to go back home when contract ends. There are allways new ones coming.

But to come to Norway as in a Visa run it is considered quite tough and you bet the interviewers know what kind of question will rule out a fortune seeking small petite pinay girl much simular as in the french embassy. But speaking of Visa runs Norway pay much more closer attention to the Thai girls they are not so trustworthy as pinays. Many thaigirls ends up in MP`s and or in the prostitutionbusiness also here. I have never heard of pinays beeing registered as prostitutes in Norway (I am not saying it does not exists but it is rare).

Hibukhibok
02-04-13, 22:22
I am going to pay her 5000 peso per night for 3 nights, thats what is agreed, so my risk is minimized.

TMTDumb girl she should have auctioned the right to her "just primae noctis".

3 nights? If consecutive nights may not be a good idea.

A genuine birhen may be uncomfortable for a while including pain while walking which can betray what happened to her (giggling) friends and her (not necessarily giggling) family. Or she may feel almost nothing.

FreebieFan
02-05-13, 01:49
Somehow this business is reminiscent of the "fishing fleet" of spinsters and marriageable (or unmarriageable) British women which ended up yearly on the shores of India in search of spouses during the long gone colonial days.got to love this board and the various tangents we go off on. Single women going to the Raj in search of men, and au pairs in Norway. You won't hear me yelling "lets get back to the sex subject " as I find this board can be really interesting, in the way we talk about, then stray from, then return to the subject of sweet Pinay puss.

Member #4387
02-05-13, 03:52
got to love this board and the various tangents we go off on. Single women going to the Raj in search of men, and au pairs in Norway. You won't hear me yelling "lets get back to the sex subject " as I find this board can be really interesting, in the way we talk about, then stray from, then return to the subject of sweet Pinay puss.He he I am probably to blame for nursing somewhat some of the OT postings lately. But if we are beeing generous we can say at the end of the day there will be enjoyment of some nice pinay pussy either for me domestic in Norway or abroad maby in Phils (atleast from 17 of Feb and so on, hehe).

FreebieFan
02-05-13, 09:02
I wonder how she replied to Mohammed Abdul.

Says: hello dear how are you I hope you fine with your family life what ever you are I accept you even you fate even you orphan girl even you poor even you have kids what ever I accept you with your all life as my life just send mail so I reply you and do my life with you because life is so heard every man or woman need man or woman this reall life of part

My life so simple and I'm flowing my "Allah" five time praying read Holy Quran, more important my life understand, respect so I am more understand man respect, take care, good nature, friendly, open minded, good heart, and slim man how is the girl come my life I want she as my ideal wife then good friend and future kids mother I hope "Allah" (God) send my life someone like me

This my Email :-

I am search my life time partner what ever she. She not use me with my feelings and not hurt me all my feelings even she orphan girl even she divorce even

She widowed eve she have kids I aspect all everything what ever you are I want to complete your dream as my dream and complete our happy life you me with our future kids but she must be understand what is life value respect, understand, take care, pray five time, read Holy Quran, and good heart with good nature, loving more and share our both feelings also and even after marry come problem she don't ask me khula or she don't ask me divorce and she don't ask Separated because is more heard for child I hope how is she read my messages understand and reply me in my mail so I send mail #

Or if you just want marry for use me and my feeling and not respect me or not understand me so please don't send me mail because my life impotent is if you send me so I want 2 talk with you so know each other because after marry you or me both living and complete our life and staying alone you or me with our kids

Give me your all data so I reply your mail

Your full name

Your full mother name

Your date of birth month year

Your education

Your what do work

Your how many sister

Your how many brother

Your what reall draem

Where home place

Give me your mobile and send me gmail #

Cunning Linguist
02-05-13, 14:29
I decided to go to the Philippines a few months ago but after reading that nearly everyone in Angeles City shaves (sorry, I like the retro look) , I was recommended to try DIA.

DIA is interesting but a zoo. Nothing is clear, nothing can be clear. Some girls may proclaim they are traditional Filipina girls looking for marriage while others seem to be looking for a romp in the hay or for P2P but are, in fact, looking for marriage or a stable relationship.

I wrote to a few but few could or would wait until the summer. That is fair.

One was willing but it turned out that she was an Ilokano girl who spoke no English (I wrote her in basic Tagalog but could not talk much via YM but it is easier to write Tagalog than speak it, at least for me) and was living in Angeles City. She was always asking for gifts. Hmm.

I dropped her when I met another girl who contacted me. In my profile, I said that I will send no money to anyone I don't meet in person. I said that if I am respected, I will respect you (no request for nude photos, etc.)

The new girl told me that she had reached the age of 26 and wanted to know what it was like to have feelings of a boyfriend. She never had a boyfriend (hard to believe as I think she is cute but she is short, poor, and very brown, maybe not attractive to some there but then again, there are so many like her). She said that we could Skype and that I could see that she would be true to me (well, except for the time we talk, who knows).

In the time we have talked (we can talk 2 hours at a time, or more!) , she seems to be nice and even lovable. Maybe she is a good actress. I am not too bad looking and she doesn't mind my age. I have fallen for her. I have even started learning Cebuano. My notions of Tagalog have helped a lot.

She really seems to like me, appreciates my efforts at Cebuano and seems sad when I have to go. Actress? True?

I asked her if she was a virgin (if she was NBSB) and she said she was (so she says). Yikes! She said, in so many words, that she would give her virginity to me because she trusts me. She even loves me (?). No sale of virginity for 15, 000 pesos in her case We will be together for about 9 days. I am taking her to Palawan which is a big deal for her and we will stay at great hotels (I have all the info I need on her, name, I'd number and so she is real). The question for you esteemed professionals on the board is this.

1. I am afraid that she might want kids (she told me that she really liked it that I love my own kids so much, which is true). I have read that many Filipinas, very poor Filipinas from the Provinces (she is from the south of Cebu and is very poor) want to be knocked up by a foreigner to get set up for life. I have had a bad experience from a Haitian girl who wanted to entrap me this way but I wanted to know if this is a possible case.

2. She is anxious for me to go to her town. I have read that this is to show off the foreigner boyfriend Is this to prepare the way for her to have the kid? II thought that marriage was so important to them or is it that a stipend trumps middle class conventions?

I wanted to know if this is typical of Cebuanas and what she might be up to. It is simply too good to be true.

I am sure you guys would know or could tell me something.

Salamat

Pete Benetar
02-05-13, 17:51
I wonder how she replied to Mohammed Abdul.Please, ask her forward PM:

1. Name first pet.

2. High School Mascot.

3. What year father born (want dedicate morning Adhan for song).

Also, be so kind if she want join 39 virgins?

Hibukhibok
02-05-13, 21:10
got to love this board and the various tangents we go off on. Single women going to the Raj in search of men, and au pairs in Norway. You won't hear me yelling "lets get back to the sex subject " as I find this board can be really interesting, in the way we talk about, then stray from, then return to the subject of sweet Pinay puss.1. Pinay pussy in Oslo or in Iloilo (it rhymes) is Pinay pussy. Therefore on topic.

Oslo may even have some advantages. Once you and your beloved friend of the moment are through with each other and you would like to get a little sleep, in Norway there are no barking dogs, no crowing roosters, no noisy trikes, no music blaring jeepneys, no church bells, no early masses broadcast over loud speakers etc to further exhaust you by keeping you awake. I am joking but this is what truly happens in the villages (and of course not in your luxury hotel or resort). For a determined European bent on exotic pussy close to home Norway seems to be the destination of choice.

2. The fishing fleet of British women in search of spouses in India in its essence was similar to the planeloads of mongers ending up in AC by their shared ultimate goal, sex.

Furthermore not all these women were shriveled spinsters, many were young and pretty but unmarriageable to a man of good social standing at home because they were from poor families and w / o a dowry. Which exactly describes a good percentage of the Filipinas on DIA, FC, CB etc. They are themselves part of a modern "virtual" re-incarnation of the old fishing fleet. And some do succeed!

Sammon
02-05-13, 23:24
I decided to go to the Philippines a few months ago but after reading that nearly everyone in Angeles City shaves (sorry, I like the retro look) , I was recommended to try DIA.

DIA is interesting but a zoo. Nothing is clear, nothing can be clear. Some girls may proclaim they are traditional Filipina girls looking for marriage while others seem to be looking for a romp in the hay or for P2P but are, in fact, looking for marriage or a stable relationship.

I wrote to a few but few could or would wait until the summer. That is fair.

One was willing but it turned out that she was an Ilokano girl who spoke no English (I wrote her in basic Tagalog but could not talk much via YM but it is easier to write Tagalog than speak it, at least for me) and was living in Angeles City. She was always asking for gifts. Hmm.

I dropped her when I met another girl who contacted me. In my profile, I said that I will send no money to anyone I don't meet in person. I said that if I am respected, I will respect you (no request for nude photos, etc.)

The new girl told me that she had reached the age of 26 and wanted to know what it was like to have feelings of a boyfriend. She never had a boyfriend (hard to believe as I think she is cute but she is short, poor, and very brown, maybe not attractive to some there but then again, there are so many like her). She said that we could Skype and that I could see that she would be true to me (well, except for the time we talk, who knows).

In the time we have talked (we can talk 2 hours at a time, or more!) , she seems to be nice and even lovable. Maybe she is a good actress. I am not too bad looking and she doesn't mind my age. I have fallen for her. I have even started learning Cebuano. My notions of Tagalog have helped a lot.

She really seems to like me, appreciates my efforts at Cebuano and seems sad when I have to go. Actress? True?

I asked her if she was a virgin (if she was NBSB) and she said she was (so she says). Yikes! She said, in so many words, that she would give her virginity to me because she trusts me. She even loves me (?). No sale of virginity for 15, 000 pesos in her case We will be together for about 9 days. I am taking her to Palawan which is a big deal for her and we will stay at great hotels (I have all the info I need on her, name, I'd number and so she is real). The question for you esteemed professionals on the board is this.

1. I am afraid that she might want kids (she told me that she really liked it that I love my own kids so much, which is true). I have read that many Filipinas, very poor Filipinas from the Provinces (she is from the south of Cebu and is very poor) want to be knocked up by a foreigner to get set up for life. I have had a bad experience from a Haitian girl who wanted to entrap me this way but I wanted to know if this is a possible case.

2. She is anxious for me to go to her town. I have read that this is to show off the foreigner boyfriend Is this to prepare the way for her to have the kid? II thought that marriage was so important to them or is it that a stipend trumps middle class conventions?

I wanted to know if this is typical of Cebuanas and what she might be up to. It is simply too good to be true.

I am sure you guys would know or could tell me something.

SalamatHaving met quite a few girls in DIA it is easy to answer your queries.

Yes, there are many actresses telling a sob story, romantic story etc.

Yes, Phi love kids and want kids.

Yes, There are older virgins. For one reason or another they never got around to sex.

There is no difference if she is a cebuana or from anywhere in Phi. They all have generally same attitude and disposition.

Yes, Most DIA girls are poor looking for a knight in shining armor to rescue them and do not forget their family as well. It comes as one package.

Most Phi girls know english. If she does not it means she is really, really poor and kept at home without schooling. There are many province girls who did not go to school past couple of grades.

IMHO although the girls initially say no sex all of them agree after they meet and stay with you.

Golfinho
02-06-13, 01:30
Any idea why there appears (relatively speaking) to be so many DIA filipinas in Norway or Denmark? .Every kind of speculation and second-hand hearsay here, par for the course.

On a visit to Oslo last summer, is was strange to see so many foreigners in that town. And not tourists. Girls from countries of every continent working in fast food chain restaurants, shops, everywhere. Started talking to some. Dominicana, Brazilian, Filipina and the story was vacation romance, relationship gone bad. As for immigration status, details there got kinda vague. This a just a very small sample size, of course. Another interesting thing is you don't see foreigners idle and scamming in the street. Norway's finest have a monopoly on that, homegrown guys doing the panhandling and begging everywhere. No burger flipping for them.

Radical Guy
02-06-13, 20:02
I decided to go to the Philippines a few months ago but after reading that nearly everyone in Angeles City shaves (sorry, I like the retro look) , I was recommended to try DIA.As a fellow fan of women who stay fully "au naturale," I must say that I find the increasingly popular shaving fetish quite disturbing. My Filipina wife asks me from time to time if I want her to shave (her friends all do) , and I always respond with an emphatic NO WAY! Seems like China is the last holdout where women still like to look like women, not prepubescent mannequins.

RG

Member #4351
02-06-13, 20:35
The plucked chicken look is supported by guys (many on this forum) who don't appreciate pheromones and from the girls watching porn. It is a sad trend and I always try to find a natural girl whenever possible.

Wolvenvacht
02-06-13, 20:43
As a fellow fan of women who stay fully "au naturale," I must say that I find the increasingly popular shaving fetish quite disturbing. My Filipina wife asks me from time to time if I want her to shave (her friends all do) , and I always respond with an emphatic NO WAY! Seems like China is the last holdout where women still like to look like women, not prepubescent mannequins.

RGThailand also still has its fair share of "natural" women.

Cunning Linguist
02-07-13, 00:20
Having met quite a few girls in DIA it is easy to answer your queries.

Yes, there are many actresses telling a sob story, romantic story etc.

Yes, Phi love kids and want kids.

Yes, There are older virgins. For one reason or another they never got around to sex.

There is no difference if she is a cebuana or from anywhere in Phi. They all have generally same attitude and disposition.

Yes, Most DIA girls are poor looking for a knight in shining armor to rescue them and do not forget their family as well. It comes as one package.

Most Phi girls know english. If she does not it means she is really, really poor and kept at home without schooling. There are many province girls who did not go to school past couple of grades.

IMHO although the girls initially say no sex all of them agree after they meet and stay with you.Thank you for your kind answer, Sammon. Your posts are among those that convinced me to go the DIA route.

Thus, from your knowledgeable answer, I am able to conclude that.

1. She probably wants kids with me so that she can have a meal ticket out of abject poverty and help her family to boot (a sister of hers is mentally handicapped, for example).

2. She is willing to forego a "normal married life" if she has a kid with me. (Marriage has never been promised) in spite of the "stigma"of being a single mother and the father living far away, a father who is perhaps a foreigner thought to be be a good catch (what they regard is good social standing) A foreigner thought to be of high standing trumps a normal dirt-poor Pinoy, methinks.

Am I right?

My Cebuana really seems to like me, genuinely laughs at my jokes, and is wowed by my efforts at learning Binisaya or Cebuano. She has already implied that sex is very much in the cards (By I am not not in favour of having kids). By the way, I appreciate the other posters who know how to appreciate a natural woman (who are not plucked mannikins). A shout-out to David33, a guy I respect greatly. I have hinted to my Cebuana that she should not paint her eyebrows or shave in places where it counts.

Cunning Stunt
02-07-13, 00:37
I prefer neatly trimmed to the wild 'au natural' or plucked chicken look although it does depend entirely on the size, shape and appearance of the opening at the centre; some are much better hidden under a hirsute shag pile. Such as this one, the werepussy.

Japanese girls seem to go for the natural look, as do the Vietnamese. Ladies from the sub-continent can be exceedingly hairy, I've noticed.

Pete Benetar
02-07-13, 00:50
The plucked chicken look is supported by guys (many on this forum) who don't appreciate pheromones and from the girls watching porn.LOL. I think most guys on this forum could probably smell CS' Ms. Werepussy pheromones a mile away yet prefer holding for the waning moon before going DATY with her. OTOH, if a bushy DATY preferred over plucked chicken, a shaggy beard might do.

Cunning Stunt
02-07-13, 00:58
LOL. I think most guys on this forum could probably smell CS' Ms. Werepussy pheromones a mile away yet prefer holding for the waning moon before going DATY with her. OTOH, if a bushy DATY preferred over plucked chicken, a shaggy beard might do.ROFLMFAO. Hilarious.

Hutsori
02-07-13, 03:07
As a fellow fan of women who stay fully "au naturale," I must say that I find the increasingly popular shaving fetish quite disturbing. My Filipina wife asks me from time to time if I want her to shave (her friends all do) , and I always respond with an emphatic NO WAY! Seems like China is the last holdout where women still like to look like women, not prepubescent mannequins.

RGI don't mind either bare or natural. What does bum me out a bit is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor self shaving. I appreciate the complexity of the task, one I wouldn't dare undertake, yet see again and again it's just a mess. Why bother? Add razor bumps and ingrown hairs and it can be a gruesome sight. I'd rather work my way through a hairy one than have the razor stubble scratching me. A hidden patch is like dandelion spikes. An unintended consequence of the bare look is now women have a complex about their "too dark" mons veneris, so another whitening lotion to be applied. The nicest pubes I've ever come across are those girls who naturally have just a faint amount. A light dusting of thin, straight, soft pubes. Found the best albeit imperfect determiner of this is looking at her eyebrows.

Korea is another place where the bare look hasn't taken hold. I reckon it's due to the frequency women visit public bath houses; a bare one would certainly set off the clucks of the gaggle bathing. There's also a cultural taboo about the baek boji (white, i.e. hairless, pussy).

FreebieFan
02-07-13, 03:15
) Seems like China is the last holdout where women still like to look like women, not prepubescent mannequins.

RGCan happily report that even tho it was minus 14 in Beijing last night, my 42kg hottie had freshly shaved herself and her hairless pussy allowed me endless delight all night long. I guess its clear than on this subject there will be those of us who believe in the power of Gilette and those who don't.

X Man
02-07-13, 11:20
I'm afraid to wade into this one. Sammon has answered the questions, but is CL willing to accept any advice?

A "very poor" gal can spend two hours chatting with you on skype. Hmmm. She's a "virgin", but has agreed to travel with you (implied sex). Hmmmm.

Has CL been to Philippines before? What does CL hope to achieve here? I'm sorry if I missed some previous posts.

And is it April 1?


Thank you for your kind answer, Sammon. Your posts are among those that convinced me to go the DIA route.

Thus, from your knowledgeable answer, I am able to conclude that.

1. She probably wants kids with me so that she can have a meal ticket out of abject poverty and help her family to boot (a sister of hers is mentally handicapped, for example).

2. She is willing to forego a "normal married life" if she has a kid with me. (Marriage has never been promised) in spite of the "stigma"of being a single mother and the father living far away, a father who is perhaps a foreigner thought to be be a good catch (what they regard is good social standing) A foreigner thought to be of high standing trumps a normal dirt-poor Pinoy, methinks.

Am I right?

My Cebuana really seems to like me, genuinely laughs at my jokes, and is wowed by my efforts at learning Binisaya or Cebuano. She has already implied that sex is very much in the cards (By I am not not in favour of having kids). By the way, I appreciate the other posters who know how to appreciate a natural woman (who are not plucked mannikins). A shout-out to David33, a guy I respect greatly. I have hinted to my Cebuana that she should not paint her eyebrows or shave in places where it counts.

Cunning Linguist
02-07-13, 14:55
I'm afraid to wade into this one. Sammon has answered the questions, but is CL willing to accept any advice?

A "very poor" gal can spend two hours chatting with you on skype. Hmmm. She's a "virgin", but has agreed to travel with you (implied sex). Hmmmm.

Has CL been to Philippines before? What does CL hope to achieve here? I'm sorry if I missed some previous posts.

And is it April 1?

X-man, I respect you and your opinions. You are quite knowledgeable. No, I have never been to the Philippines and I am willing to accept advice. What do I hope to achieve? Having a wonderful GFE. I am tired of endless P2P. I asked Sammon with all humility and aimed at getting some advice as I plead ignorance on the Philippines in practical matters (knowing the history and some of the lingo does not make up for practical experience). The girl calls from her cousin's laptop. From the facebook pages, both the girl and cousin seem to be legit. However, I have doubts (hmmm) in some of the matters I have brought up and others (.e.g she never asks me questions about my family, life, etc.) that is what I have sought advice and therefore am willing to accept it if given. I suppose I only want to confirm things. That is all. No, it is not April 1 yet but Carnival is just around the corner ;-)

Wicked Roger
02-07-13, 16:07
The plucked chicken look is supported by guys (many on this forum) who don't appreciate pheromones and from the girls watching porn. It is a sad trend and I always try to find a natural girl whenever possible.Fortunately there many of us educating the girls away from the hairy Bush / forest style of pussy. The same guys who show them the benefits of vibes and anal toys.

Seems Vietnam and Japan (and maybe some parts of China) off my list to visit unless I get them to shave first.

Mr Enternational
02-07-13, 16:28
What do I hope to achieve? Having a wonderful GFE. I am tired of endless P2P.No problem with that, but according to most here you still will have to pay her.


The girl calls from her cousin's laptop. From the facebook pages, both the girl and cousin seem to be legit.Sounds legit to me as well. Just because someone is poor it does not mean they do not have a computer and internet access.


However, I have doubts (hmmm) in some of the matters I have brought up and others (.e.g she never asks me questions about my family, life, etc.) that is what I have sought advice and therefore am willing to accept it if given.Still sounds legit to me. How many chat mates ask about shit like that? None that I know of. They might ask if you are sure you do not have a girlfriend and if you have kids, but that is about it. Most of the time is spent going back and forth with I like you. I like you too. What you want to do when we see each other? What YOU want to do when we see each other? Rather boring and banal. One more reason not to get on until 2 weeks before you are in country, if that soon.

Mr Enternational
02-07-13, 16:56
in dumaguete right now. yesterday i decided to log on to dia to see if i could scrape anything up. most of the girls who list dumaguete as their city are nowhere around here, as usually is the case. this one girl had her yahoo on her profile and i immediately added her. i told her to call me, but she put her number up and wanted me to call her. this morning i texted her and ask when she is coming to see me. she said no because she lives in bais city. she wanted me to come there but i can't. she said,"it will only cost 200 pesos or more, but how about my meal, i don't have any money even 1 piso in my wallet. i am very poor woman, sorry i had to tell you my situation." i told her no problem that i would give it to her when she arrived.

but she wanted me to send money right then through palawan pawnshop. she told me to trust her and swore to god. i told her that i will trust her when i see her because she could be bakla. she goes on to say that she is not gay and that she is a woman and is a born again christian and has christ in her heart and tells me to call her to prove she is a woman. but i'm out diving at the time and not up for shenanigans. she sent me her facebook info (still haven't looked at it) and told me,"did you see my fb? now to prove i am a girl. by the way i have a before up (?) and my vagina is very tight.

she texted again later and said she would come tomorrow and i told her 6pm at robinsons and she asked,"so are you willing to repund al expensive?" of course i am honey. i can afford 200 each way for transportation and i figure 1000 for misc. expenses. besides i could use a bed warmer to help me gear up for ac.

Member #4351
02-07-13, 17:11
Mr Enternational, let us know what happens.

Sammon
02-07-13, 18:05
Thank you for your kind answer, Sammon. Your posts are among those that convinced me to go the DIA route.

Thus, from your knowledgeable answer, I am able to conclude that.

1. She probably wants kids with me so that she can have a meal ticket out of abject poverty and help her family to boot (a sister of hers is mentally handicapped, for example).

2. She is willing to forego a "normal married life" if she has a kid with me. (Marriage has never been promised) in spite of the "stigma"of being a single mother and the father living far away, a father who is perhaps a foreigner thought to be be a good catch (what they regard is good social standing) A foreigner thought to be of high standing trumps a normal dirt-poor Pinoy, methinks.

Am I right?

My Cebuana really seems to like me, genuinely laughs at my jokes, and is wowed by my efforts at learning Binisaya or Cebuano. She has already implied that sex is very much in the cards (By I am not not in favour of having kids). By the way, I appreciate the other posters who know how to appreciate a natural woman (who are not plucked mannikins). A shout-out to David33, a guy I respect greatly. I have hinted to my Cebuana that she should not paint her eyebrows or shave in places where it counts.DIA dating and fun has to be experienced rather than talked about. Only then you will know how these girls act, talk, intimate etc. Just go there and see these girls. If they are not up to par with what you are looking for just be polite and get rid of them with some compensation and jump to the next one.

Personally I always have back ups and old favourites in case new one does not click. Last visit I had a 18 year old pretty one meet me at the airport and found out she is too immature and got rid of her after 2 days although the plan was for 5 days. While she was friendly and pretty she acted like a prima donna and sex was not good. Her other " foreign " BF kept on calling her at all times. She insisted that relationship was over but I did not think so.

1. You can tell the girl that you are looking for fun only so that she will not insist on having kids with you. We are all mongers and irrespective of how beautifull, very good sex and company, I have found it very hard to just be with only one or two girls on my 21 day visit. After couple of times girls get the idea that I am a " Butterfly". Sometimes it hurts their feelings but since I told them right from the begining I am looking for fun only my conscience is clear.

If are worried about pregnancy put her on birth control drugs.

2. There is no " stigma " of being a single parent in Phi. Country is full of them. Their goal is to better their life with your money irrespective of if you are there or not.

You are talking about a cebuana goirl as if you are looking for a long time relationship with her. My suggestion is do not mislead them if you are looking for fun only. These girls are tender at heart and no need to hurt them.

Although most got hurt by their Phi boyfriends we should be much more gentle.

Irony Monger
02-07-13, 20:29
After couple of times girls get the idea that I am a " Butterfly". Sometimes it hurts their feelings but since I told them right from the begining I am looking for fun only my conscience is clear.Ha! I often tell girls during pre-meeting chats that I am a bit of a butterfly (I use that exact word, with a smiley face). Most of the time it doesn't phase them, it escalates the sexual flirting, lets them know that they have competition, and lowers relationship expectations.

Cunning Linguist
02-07-13, 22:55
DIA dating and fun has to be experienced rather than talked about. Only then you will know how these girls act, talk, intimate etc. Just go there and see these girls. If they are not up to par with what you are looking for just be polite and get rid of them with some compensation and jump to the next one.

Personally I always have back ups and old favourites in case new one does not click. Last visit I had a 18 year old pretty one meet me at the airport and found out she is too immature and got rid of her after 2 days although the plan was for 5 days. While she was friendly and pretty she acted like a prima donna and sex was not good. Her other " foreign " BF kept on calling her at all times. She insisted that relationship was over but I did not think so.

1. You can tell the girl that you are looking for fun only so that she will not insist on having kids with you. We are all mongers and irrespective of how beautifull, very good sex and company, I have found it very hard to just be with only one or two girls on my 21 day visit. After couple of times girls get the idea that I am a " Butterfly". Sometimes it hurts their feelings but since I told them right from the begining I am looking for fun only my conscience is clear.

If are worried about pregnancy put her on birth control drugs.

2. There is no " stigma " of being a single parent in Phi. Country is full of them. Their goal is to better their life with your money irrespective of if you are there or not.

You are talking about a cebuana goirl as if you are looking for a long time relationship with her. My suggestion is do not mislead them if you are looking for fun only. These girls are tender at heart and no need to hurt them.

Although most got hurt by their Phi boyfriends we should be much more gentle.Thanks so very much for your kind, informative answer. To tell you the truth, I am falling for the Cebuana and am considering a long time relationship with her. She has really inspired me to learn Binisaya though she does speak good English. After talking to her for 2 hours a day for over month, I kind of have a bit of an idea of what she is like. I have never had a feeling like this for a girl since I started my mongering hobby though I am still very, very, very wary. Of course, meeting with her in person would be a different matter and would be the decisive time for anything serious. I would never want to break her heart by promising her something I have no intention or capability of fulfilling. In any case, before anything gets really serious, I would have her investigated by a local private eye to check things out (any Pinoy boyfriends, Western sponsors, mystery kids, etc.).

Cunning Linguist
02-08-13, 03:13
No problem with that, but according to most here you still will have to pay her.

Sounds legit to me as well. Just because someone is poor it does not mean they do not have a computer and internet access.

Still sounds legit to me. How many chat mates ask about shit like that? None that I know of. They might ask if you are sure you do not have a girlfriend and if you have kids, but that is about it. Most of the time is spent going back and forth with I like you. I like you too. What you want to do when we see each other? What YOU want to do when we see each other? Rather boring and banal. One more reason not to get on until 2 weeks before you are in country, if that soon.I can appreciate this point. Although she speaks Englsh fairly well, her knowledge of, let's say, general culture, is lacking despite any claims of a high school diploma. For example, she confuses socialite with socialist. So, discussions about peak oil, metaphysics, linguistics, the LIBOR manipulation scandal, string theory or such matters are definitely not going to happen. Thus, I have taken it upon myself to get to her level.

I try out my Cebuano on her which she enjoys immensely. She might not know what topic focus sentences or subject focus sentences are but she does know what sounds correct in her language. I read all about her culture and then we talk about it. I ask detailed questions about everyone she knows. I ask about Filipino tv serials, pop stars. I ask about food, recipes from there. I read about the shops and landmarks there. It is a lot of work on my part but interesting meaningful conversations come about and we laugh a lot. I tell her about countries I have seen, etc. Thus, once a couple has a base, you can go beyond the topics you mention. Perhaps others might have other ideas what to talk about (no, many girls don't want to talk "dirty things" though I can sure there are exceptions)

Chocha Monger
02-08-13, 04:01
Thanks so very much for your kind, informative answer. To tell you the truth, I am falling for the Cebuana and am considering a long time relationship with her. She has really inspired me to learn Binisaya though she does speak good English. After talking to her for 2 hours a day for over month, I kind of have a bit of an idea of what she is like. I have never had a feeling like this for a girl since I started my mongering hobby though I am still very, very, very wary. Of course, meeting with her in person would be a different matter and would be the decisive time for anything serious. I would never want to break her heart by promising her something I have no intention or capability of fulfilling. In any case, before anything gets really serious, I would have her investigated by a local private eye to check things out (any Pinoy boyfriends, Western sponsors, mystery kids, etc.).Don't fall too far. You might hurt yourself. The magic might vanish after you meat her and satisfy your cravings for female flesh. You might also want to check out the MTV reality show "Catfish" on internet romances.

X Man
02-08-13, 06:07
I think it's already been touched on here, but my recommendation is to NOT make any promises about Palawan, etc. Meet the lady and see how things go. If all is good, then you can invite her to the beach. Maybe it is too late for that.

You write GFE, but most of us use that for a girl who is accepting money, but giving that extra effort. It sounds more like you are creating a GF. I'm guessing her expectation level is quite high and you will get some drama if you decide she isn't the one you want to spend your holiday with.

Nevertheless, you seem to have gotten to know the lady so that is a good start. I wish you the best of luck. X.


X-man, I respect you and your opinions. You are quite knowledgeable. No, I have never been to the Philippines and I am willing to accept advice. What do I hope to achieve? Having a wonderful GFE. I am tired of endless P2P. I asked Sammon with all humility and aimed at getting some advice as I plead ignorance on the Philippines in practical matters (knowing the history and some of the lingo does not make up for practical experience). The girl calls from her cousin's laptop. From the facebook pages, both the girl and cousin seem to be legit. However, I have doubts (hmmm) in some of the matters I have brought up and others (.e.g she never asks me questions about my family, life, etc.) that is what I have sought advice and therefore am willing to accept it if given. I suppose I only want to confirm things. That is all. No, it is not April 1 yet but Carnival is just around the corner ;-)

Cbea20
02-08-13, 11:34
in this situation, the girl coming from bais or mabinay, and she absolutely insists she cannot scrape up 100 peso for the bus, i will probably drop her as a loser. but if i am very motivated, i will offer to meet the bus and pay the conductor. this arrangement has never failed. if she refuses that offer, she is scamming you to send money. she referred to her vagina? for sure she is not an innocent girl.


in dumaguete right now. yesterday i decided to log on to dia to see if i could scrape anything up. most of the girls who list dumaguete as their city are nowhere around here, as usually is the case. this one girl had her yahoo on her profile and i immediately added her. i told her to call me, but she put her number up and wanted me to call her. this morning i texted her and ask when she is coming to see me. she said no because she lives in bais city. she wanted me to come there but i can't. she said,"it will only cost 200 pesos or more, but how about my meal, i don't have any money even 1 piso in my wallet. i am very poor woman, sorry i had to tell you my situation." i told her no problem that i would give it to her when she arrived.

Sammon
02-08-13, 15:50
In any case, before anything gets really serious, I would have her investigated by a local private eye to check things out (any Pinoy boyfriends, Western sponsors, mystery kids, etc.).I would suggest not to hire a PI to investigate. I do not know which country you are from but whatever happened in her or your life before is better laid to rest. Once you meet her you will know if you two are good for each other and go from there. If things get serious she herself will open up about her life just like you will too. You do not want a PI to go to her and try to extort money from her to give you a good report. These things happen in Phi.

I am sure she would have had Phi boyfriends. If you are insisting on a virgin maybe a trip to the doctor is a good idea.

It is too early to think about background check.

Mr Enternational
02-08-13, 18:31
in this situation, the girl coming from bais or mabinay, and she absolutely insists she cannot scrape up 100 peso for the bus, i will probably drop her as a loser. but if i am very motivated, i will offer to meet the bus and pay the conductor. this arrangement has never failed. if she refuses that offer, she is scamming you to send money. she referred to her vagina? for sure she is not an innocent girl.the girl was not able to come. she texted me around noon and said that her friend was supposed to give her the money, but she was not answering texts or her phone. i told her to tell her friend that if she loaned her 200, i would send 300 back to her. she said that was not the problem, the problem is that she can't get in touch with her. she apologized.

Mr Enternational
02-08-13, 19:19
I met up with another DIA contact tonight. It was crazy because I tried to talk to her a month before I came, but she stopped me in my tracks. This is how it started:

Me: Hello Beautiful. I would like to know you if you have time for me.

Her: Depends on how a good conversationalist you are. Otherwise, If I get bored I cannot give you my time.

Me: And that would depend on our chemistry together. Do you have messenger or skype?

That was January 3 and I did not hear anything else from her until a couple of days ago when I arrived and sent her another message saying I was here in town and why did she forget me. Now this is an educated woman with a master's degree. She is a school teacher. So we exchanged numbers and did some texting back and forth early today while I was out diving. We started texting again later in the evening when she finished work and I was at Robinson's.

Lo and behold she was at Robinson's at the same time with two of her sisters. One just came in from out of town and is a postal worker. They are all beautiful, educated, and probably not as young as most of your guys look for. But she said she had been trying to call me but could not get through. She tried on hers and her sister's phone while we were together. That was weird because I had no problem calling her and we were texting back and forth fine. At this time it was about 7:50 pm. So I said let's run up to the Smart store before it closes to see what the problem is. The Smart lady tried to call me and everything worked fine. She said that it is some kind of glitch going on where Globe can't call Smart and another carrier can't call someone else, but Smart is able to call anyone. I walked them back out to the car then I got into a trike and came back to the hotel. (By the way, trikes here are 9 pesos damn near anywhere you go. There is none of that trike mafia rip off stuff like AC. You don't even have to ask. Just when you get where you are going you get out and hand over 9 pesos - It's kind of good being in a regular city instead of a kano rip off spot.)

No sooner than I could get in the door she was texting me asking me to come back out and join them at Hayahay (club / restaurant / bar type deal). I told her okay. I was organizing some things in my room and she kept texting me asking what is taking so long. So I finally went and they had bought pizza and pina coladas and offered me some. We sat there shooting the shit about this that and the other and they said something about going to Malaysia. I told them my cousin lived there with his wife who is from there. We video skyped him from my cell phone. He was jealous that I was out having fun with three beautiful women.

The two sisters wanted me to find men for them, because they found out their men were cheating on them and so went the relationships. Mine said she broke up with her husband for irreconcilable differences. So I kept trying to touch on her and kiss on her but she was thwarting my advances. Then she explained that she is very well known in the city and for her job she had to sign a contract to uphold moral standards. So if someone saw her and said something it could mean the end of her career. (I heard the same thing from a Manila police chief who my cousin was hooking up with when she visited her best friend (my Pinay side piece) in Thailand.) I told her that I understood that and I definitely could not take care of her. They paid the bill and left, but I told them I was staying. (The bill was 650. I added it up myself, because neither them nor the waitress could make out the writing. Then I carefully watched the visiting sister pay a 500, a 100, and a 50; NO TIP for you big spenders / tippers.)

After they were clearly gone I caught a trike to Why Not? (pick up disco) and took a girl for ST (220 for room and gave girl 780). While I was fucking I got a text from her but didn't answer it until I was back in the hotel. She called me on the land line and we talked for a while. I admitted (lied) to her that I had came straight to the hotel after they left, but I told her I would stay at the bar in order to make her jealous. She said it worked. She said she really likes me and she would be all touchy feely if she was in another city with me. I told her I understood about the job thing. She said that her parents never allowed her to have a boyfriend until she finished college. She finished college at 20 and still didn't get her first boyfriend until 26 because she was busy working, and was married at 28.

I invited her to come stay with me in Thailand. She said she would be able to come in May because elections are in April and they are required to work the polls. This is a good girl and I wish I had time to get to know her more. I'm out of here tomorrow on the 12:30 flight back to Manila and bus to Angeles, but she does not know it. Whenever someone asks me how long I am staying somewhere I always ask them how long they want me to stay. I never give a definite answer. I guess I'll make up something to tell her when I'm on the way to the airport tomorrow.

Cunning Linguist
02-08-13, 19:35
I would suggest not to hire a PI to investigate. I do not know which country you are from but whatever happened in her or your life before is better laid to rest. Once you meet her you will know if you two are good for each other and go from there. If things get serious she herself will open up about her life just like you will too. You do not want a PI to go to her and try to extort money from her to give you a good report. These things happen in Phi.

I am sure she would have had Phi boyfriends. If you are insisting on a virgin maybe a trip to the doctor is a good idea.

It is too early to think about background check.Wow! That is very, very sound advice indeed. I never thought such a thing would or could happen but it does make sense. In any case, I don't care if she is a virgin. I even hope she really isn't but I am intrigued in any case. Thanks for the advice! I am sure it might be useful for others as well as me.

Wazoo
02-08-13, 23:33
I met up with another DIA contact tonight. It was crazy because I tried to talk to her a month before I came, but she stopped me in my tracks. This is how it started:Great story. This is another one of those scenarios that could happen only in the Philippines. Hope we get a follow-up report after Thailand.

Wazoo
02-09-13, 00:00
You certainly meet all kinds through DIA. I chatted about 3 months with a young lady who I took to be a party girl. She enjoys showing off her big heavy Cs with a push up bra, has tats, chain smokes, and drinks to excess several times a week. She has a toddler back in the province living with her mama. We developed some real friendship and trust. Finally she told me her story. She had sex exactly once in her life. She was completely wasted and has no memory of the act except that it hurt like hell. A few weeks later she found out she was pregnant. She has had a complete phobia about sex ever since. For her it meant only pain and pregnancy. She's a hot girl and gets approached constantly by foreigners, but she rebuffs them all. Her friends laugh and gossip about sex but she never has anything to say. So finally she decided that it was time to take the plunge. I am a gentlemen and seem kind and patient, so she decided that she wanted me to be the one to do it. We got quite close over the next few months as we prepared for my trip. However, she never allowed any talk that was even faintly sexual. The whole idea just made her nervous. I was skeptical about her story. It just sounds so implausible. Turns out, she was telling the truth. She was really scared when we met. On the first evening I built up the romance to put her at ease. She insisted that she needed to get good and drunk. When we finally got into bed, I had to promise over and over that I would not hurt her and would stop as soon as she asked. The first night we just did some naked play but I didn't push things (literally and figuratively.) By the next day we accomplished the mission. That night she had her first ever orgasm. After that, she was hooked. Since she had a baby, things were quite comfortable after she got over her nerves. We spend several wonderful, sex-filled days together. By the time I left, she was completely over her phobia. Mission accomplished. My guess is she won't be so quick to rebuff the suitors who come calling from now on.

Chocha Monger
02-09-13, 01:49
CL is over analyzing this thing. As we all know it doesn't make sense to invest too much time in these girls, or to become attached to them before meeting and rooting them a few times at least. These girls chat with lots of guys just as mongers line up meet and seed sessions with multiple girls from dating sites. The rule of the game is the monger who gets there first, fucks first. Once a few days shy of meeting a self-declared virgin she dropped off the radar. When she resurfaced she accidentally revealed that a monger, probably from ISG, not only met and fucked all her holes but also left her a hellacious dose of antibiotic resistant claps to remember him by. The sly little piglet had gotten her chat mates mixed up and without webcam she thought she was chatting with the guy who gave her 'poosay' a 'really bad seksual sickness! ' When she asked me to invite her to view webcam I told her that I really needed to log off. But before I did so, I promised that I would be sending the money to buy the more powerful antibiotic treatment that her doctor prescribed to eradicate the weapons-grade claps that was rotting away her crotch. I never got around to sending those much needed pesos, so I hope she didn't set too many mongers' dicks on fire with her disease. Being a young hot spinner working in the tourism sector, she certainly had the opportunity to be a serial arsonist.

Ezinho
02-09-13, 03:21
the monger who gets there first, fucks first.Brilliant. This should be the new motto of the ISG.

Is there any way we can put this on a bumper sticker? Or a t-shirt?

Wazoo
02-09-13, 13:51
one more report about a dia chatmate: this one is 23 and in the process of getting a divorce from a northern european. she lived there for a couple of years but now is back home in the province. her best feature is a truly astounding blanket of black, thick, lustrous hair down to her ass. we really have to calibrate our appearance scale between home and phils, don't we? here at home, i would consider myself the luckiest guy around if i could get a cute young girl like this to give me the time of day. in the phils scale, she is just above average in looks if you factor out the hair. lg epitomizes why we put all the long effort into developing relationships with regular girls on dia instead of just hooking up with pros. she is very, very sweet but shy in matters of sex. as time went on slowly revealed her sensual side. she was a virgin when she got married and only had been with this one guy in her life. since her separation she hadn't been with anyone. so she was at a slow simmer and ready to boil over with just a slight turn up of the burner. girls like her aren't just looking for sex, but for a romantic encounter. as tally wacker said below, we really have to get inside their heads and create the vision they are looking for.

lg was not at the top of my list, so i had to change our plans several times. i felt really bad about it because she really wanted to meet. finally we just ran out of time. i had a date planned with a hot rock and roll singer late that evening. my plan was to meet lg at the mall in the afternoon, give her some gifts, treat her to a nice dinner, compensate her for her time and trouble, but save the intimate session for next time. when i met her at the mall, i could see that she spent an elaborate amount of time getting prepared for the date. dress and makeup were immaculate. her lustrous hair was in a complicated braid down her chest. she was with a cousin, who she dismissed after we met. as we had our coffee and dessert, she told me that it took her 3 hours to get to our location. i'm feeling very guilty at this point. i offered to take her shopping in the mall but she shyly implied that she didn't come all that way just for a new dress. she wanted to go back to the hotel with me. i agreed and she practically jumped up and down with excitement. she clasped my waist as we looked for a cab and held my hand all the way to the hotel. she was like a kid on the way to disneyland. as we rode in the cab i could not help but think that phils is this weird alternative universe. it's some sort of quantum planet where normal rules of newtonian physics do not apply. here i am meeting a young girl who would be considered a knockout back home and she's the one pressuring me to put out. i'm just an average middle-aged guy. i still can't quite get my mind around this.

back in the room i slipped my arms around her waist and kissed her neck as she looked out the window. she turned around threw her arms around me, and just exploded with passion. it was like the cork popped out of the champagne bottle. her tongue was in my throat and clothes came flying off as she pushed me toward the bed. an intense afternoon followed. the image glued in my mind is her climbing on top of me, loosening the braid, and letting the fountain of hair drape across my chest. as she gyrated in cowgirl, the hair covered her entire torso and fell across my tummy. she leaned over and formed her hair into a tunnel around my face, moving back and forth to kiss me and back to cowgirl. wow! what a memory. she was very shy, so unfortunately no photos. as we hugged in bed after, she told me she had no sex in about 18 months and needed it very badly. she thanked me for the wonderful time. she wanted to stay all night but my schedule didn't allow it. looking back, i should have figured out a way.

lg messaged me several times for a repeat, but sadly i was busy with work and just had no time. a few days later she posted some photos on her fb that showed how she spent the gift i gave her. she hacked her hair off at mid-back and dyed it this horrible orange color. gahhhh! well, at least i got to see her before she committed this travesty against nature.

WestCoast1
02-09-13, 15:51
the image glued in my mind is her climbing on top of me, loosening the braid, and letting the fountain of hair drape across my chest. as she gyrated in cowgirl, the hair covered her entire torso and fell across my tummy. she leaned over and formed her hair into a tunnel around my face, moving back and forth to kiss me and back to cowgirl. wow!woooooooooooooow. great!

Hibukhibok
02-10-13, 07:37
1. She probably wants kids with me so that she can have a meal ticket out of abject poverty and help her family to boot (a sister of hers is mentally handicapped, for example).

2. She is willing to forego a "normal married life" if she has a kid with me. (Marriage has never been promised) in spite of the "stigma"of being a single mother and the father living far away, a father who is perhaps a foreigner thought to be be a good catch (what they regard is good social standing) A foreigner thought to be of high standing trumps a normal dirt-poor Pinoy, methinks.

Am I right?Absolutely not. Whatever the girl tells you and actually wants (she may be sincere although I doubt it) , think before you procreate. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a Pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will NOT blend in.

Expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. The only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).

You have no idea how nasty, jealous and mean Filipinos / Filipinas can be with each other, even if (or because) as a gentleman should you intend to support the mother and the kid (s) well. If the father is indeed far away and does not visit his "left hand" family very frequently and only for short stays you will be inflicting martyrdom upon innocents. For frequent and long stays that's obviously different.

Now if you really have the money and the stamina of Charles Lindbergh (look up his wikipedia bio) by all means go ahead. 7 illlegit kids by 3 German mistresses, starting in his mid fifties. You will be able to offer your crowd all the protection it will need and indeed require.

So you are learning Cebuano, a Borneo-Philippine language, good luck to you, after that you should learn the "other" Borneo-Philippine language which is spoken neither in Borneo nor in the Philippines and you will note no doubt its amazing similarity to either Tag or Ceb and try your luck with the girls there and if you have a smattering of French you will impress them even more.

Hibukhibok
02-10-13, 08:20
One more report about a DIA chatmate: This one is 23 and in the process of getting a divorce from a Northern European. She lived there for a couple of years but now is back home in the province. Her best feature is a truly astounding blanket of black, thick, lustrous hair down to her ass.

Snip snip snip.

As we rode in the cab I could not help but think that Phils is this weird alternative universe. It's some sort of quantum planet where normal rules of Newtonian physics do not apply.

Snip snip snip.

LG messaged me several times for a repeat, but sadly I was busy with work and just had no time. A few days later she posted some photos on her FB that showed how she spent the gift I gave her. She hacked her hair off at mid-back and dyed it this horrible orange color. Gahhhh! Well, at least I got to see her before she committed this travesty against nature.Very sad, why do they have to dye their hair like this all over the Far East.

Now you have to admit that the upkeep and maintenance of an exceptionally very long and thick mane is very time consuming and even physically demanding, not to mention the endless plumber's bills because she will forever clog the shower outlet, that is probably because of these bills that her husband divorced her.

On the other he could have given her a little loom so that she could weave all the hair that she was shedding and make some money selling the cloth thus produced.

Now could you elaborate on the meaning of "quantum planet", never mind, but your English HS teacher (s) must be proud of you.

Now I have expressed this before but I am a little surprised about a Pinay legitimately in Europe and going back to the Phils to actually work there (at the local salaries) , if divorced how come she could not have squeezed a modest alimony. My wife always mentions going back there but (regrettably) she does follow through with her great idea once she realizes (again and again) that a 90% plus pay cut in her teacher's salary (assuming she could find a job) would be deleterious to her life style (like commuting in a jeepney along some polluted byway instead of her own new car in the New England countryside).

GoodEnough
02-10-13, 13:12
a pinay having an illegit kid with a pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. a pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will not blend in.

expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. the only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).

so you are learning cebuano, a borneo-philippine language, good luck to you, after that you should learn the "other" borneo-philippine language which is spoken neither in borneo nor in the philippines and you will note no doubt its amazing similarity to either tag or ceb and try your luck with the girls there and if you have a smattering of french you will impress them even more.i was just going to let the above, chock full on inaccurate information and cultural misperceptions slip by without comment, since i'm old, peaceful and in no need of a meaningless flame war. however, the notion that a mixed race child is cause for derision here is so contrary to my life, my experience and my observations here, that i felt compelled to comment.

first, the 7 mestizo kids with whom i have direct contact are highly esteemed by their peers, typically elected the "kings" and "queens" of their classes, based solely on their genetic make-up, and more often than not, objects of envy. not only do they have abundant friends, but they are (undeservedly) acclaimed, and are a constant source of pride to their families; cynosures if you will simply by virtue of the difference in their skin color. the "merciless teasing" declamation is nonsense and i suspect not based on anything much in the way of observed fact.

i'm also curious about the "borneo-philippine"characterization of the language. first, because the last time i looked borneo was divided between malaysia and indonesia; two languages with sanskrit origins perhaps, but quite different in their modern incarnations. second, because the allusion to the helpfulness of french, which i speak fluently, eludes me completely. i've traveled widely in this country, and aside from the fact that i can talk to my french friends here in the language i love, has not been of of any advantage whatsoever.

on the whole, i find some parts of the above post incomprehensible, and those parts that i did understand are just wrong-at least based on ten years of observations here.

ge

Red Kilt
02-10-13, 13:54
a pinay having an illegit kid with a pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. a pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will not blend in.

expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. the only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).i must support most strongly ge's comments here, having lived here for almost 16 years.

surely hibuk's comments refer to some racist experiences in some other part of the world, not the philippines. i have never seen anything untoward about mestizo kids, although filipinos can be rather racist towards very dark-skinned people.

a lighter skin color alone is a source of great distinction amongst any mestizo kid's peers and jealousy would not be anything nasty.

Cunning Linguist
02-10-13, 15:53
Absolutely not. Whatever the girl tells you and actually wants (she may be sincere although I doubt it) , think before you procreate. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a Pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will NOT blend in.

Expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. The only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).

You have no idea how nasty, jealous and mean Filipinos / Filipinas can be with each other, even if (or because) as a gentleman should you intend to support the mother and the kid (s) well. If the father is indeed far away and does not visit his "left hand" family very frequently and only for short stays you will be inflicting martyrdom upon innocents. For frequent and long stays that's obviously different.

Now if you really have the money and the stamina of Charles Lindbergh (look up his wikipedia bio) by all means go ahead. 7 illlegit kids by 3 German mistresses, starting in his mid fifties. You will be able to offer your crowd all the protection it will need and indeed require.

So you are learning Cebuano, a Borneo-Philippine language, good luck to you, after that you should learn the "other" Borneo-Philippine language which is spoken neither in Borneo nor in the Philippines and you will note no doubt its amazing similarity to either Tag or Ceb and try your luck with the girls there and if you have a smattering of French you will impress them even more.I do not claim to be an expert on Philippine society but from what I have read, admittedly not seen, the reality seems closer to what Red Kilt and GoodEnough describe and I think they have "on the ground" experience there. Your description, it would seem, is more in keeping with what happened in Vietnam with children sired by an American father, the worst being in the cases when the father was a Black. Similar stories and cases can be found in Korea.

As for your flawed references to languages, Cebuano is of the Philippine branch of the huge Austronesian language family. The Borneo branch is separate, in the way that Latin, Illyrian, Slavic, Celtic or Indo-Iranian branches are separate branches within the Indo-European language family. You are obviously referring to Malagasy, a Borneo branch language which is the lingua franca of Madagascar, a country where French is also official and main language of government. By the way, Malay is also an Austronesian language which has taken vocabulary from many sources, including Indo-European Sanskrit.

No, I don't do girls on the basis of whether their language is actor focus or object focus intense like Philippine languages any more than I would want to do a girl because I get off on the grammaticalization of deixis and evidentiality in Malagasy pronouns.
I speak French fairly well too. So,according to you, off to Africa, Madagascar, I should go. Not for a while anyway.

I actually love the Cebuana I have been mentioning and am learning Cebuano for her, nothing else. Is that so hard to understand?

Wazoo
02-10-13, 15:58
Now I have expressed this before but I am a little surprised about a Pinay legitimately in Europe and going back to the Phils to actually work there (at the local salaries).As I understand it, she married her husband when she was very young and doesn't have any real skills. The husband was abusive so she came home to family as a kind of escape. They aren't yet divorced so she gets no alimony. Her visa is still valid and she considers going back, but it would mean leaving her family to go back to a place where she has few friends and she would have to start all over with nothing. Anyway. That's probably saying more about her life than I'm comfortable, but it's in the way of an explanation.

I've noticed that the practice of dying hair is sweeping Asia. When I first started working in Japan 20 years ago, the only women who died their hair were bars girls. Now it has swept even into the middle classes. Strict rules against it have relaxed, so that even business people do it now. I understand the need to express some individuality in a homogeneous culture, but I've always had a strong preference for glossy black hair and dark eyes.

Cunning Stunt
02-10-13, 16:03
i was just going to let the above, chock full on inaccurate information and cultural misperceptions slip by without comment, since i'm old, peaceful and in no need of a meaningless flame war.of course you are correct, ge, and i am pleased that you spotted this misconceived post before i did as i doubt that i would have been so charitable. having brought up a british-filipino child here, i can confirm it is exactly as you say. rather than being ostracized for being a mixed race child, the reverse is the case. from grade school onwards my son was deferred to by his classmates, and quickly became a leader of his peer group.

in fact, this proved to be something of a mixed blessing as he became a little too self obsessed from being constantly seen as the hub of the wheel and so it was a good thing that i was mostly around to beat some reality into him (only kidding!). but on moving on to further education in uk, he initially found it difficult to adjust to being just another kid on the block instead of the kingpin, something that he will now freely admit.

Radical Guy
02-11-13, 03:08
Now I have expressed this before but I am a little surprised about a Pinay legitimately in Europe and going back to the Phils to actually work there (at the local salaries) , if divorced how come she could not have squeezed a modest alimony. My wife always mentions going back there but (regrettably) she does follow through with her great idea once she realizes (again and again) that a 90% plus pay cut in her teacher's salary (assuming she could find a job) would be deleterious to her life style (like commuting in a jeepney along some polluted byway instead of her own new car in the New England countryside).I don't know about Europe, but in Texas we have no alimony in marriages lasting less than 10 years, except in very rare circumstances (e. G. Disability precluding ability to work). Unless there is child support, or post-marriage property to divide (I. E. Community property) , the ex-wife would have basically nothing. Of course, Europe may be much kinder to ex-wives.

RG

Python75
02-12-13, 02:06
i must support most strongly ge's comments here, having lived here for almost 16 years.

surely hibuk's comments refer to some racist experiences in some other part of the world, not the philippines. i have never seen anything untoward about mestizo kids, although filipinos can be rather racist towards very dark-skinned people.

a lighter skin color alone is a source of great distinction amongst any mestizo kid's peers and jealousy would not be anything nasty.i find yours and ge's comments very reassuring. i brought my gf back to australia last year on a 3 month tourist visa and she fell pregnant. she gave birth in december and i am currently visiting her now. our child has very light skin. and yes. i do send money every month to support her and the child.

having been bullied as a child myself and indeed witnessed shite managers bullying staff it is one of my pet hates, but i am relieved to hear that my new son will not be ostracised because of his skin colour.

Tally Wacker
02-12-13, 04:45
Hey not judging and it can happen to any of us but are you ok having your kid raised in Phil? Your not looking at marrying the girl?


Having been bullied as a child myself and indeed witnessed shite managers bullying staff it is one of my pet hates, but I am relieved to hear that my new son will not be ostracised because of his skin colour.

South by SW 2
02-12-13, 06:49
I've been online for a few weeks prior to my trip and in addition to solid contacts, there are the usual scammers. Some of them are so pathetic it's kinda cute. Like the ones that start a chat with "what is your work?" or who can't even keep their story straight in a single chat session.

I just found the winner for most eager. Their opening email is:

* Dear SbySW,

* Dear Steve,

* Hai _sbysw l hve my problem me nw please lm student my problem is money please are you ok nw lm wenny ramirez.

The picture is even better."Wenny" looks a lot more like Manny. I'm curious about the profile, but not curious enough to become a visitor.

SbySW

Red Kilt
02-12-13, 08:37
* Hai _sbysw l hve my problem me nw please lm student my problem is money please are you ok nw lm wenny ramirez.

The picture is even better."Wenny" looks a lot more like Manny. I'm curious about the profile, but not curious enough to become a visitor.It does look a bit odd but many girls use these editing programs where you insert your own face into a template and you end up with something that looks quite wrong.

This is an example. The hair is completely wrong, and makes her look like a bakla.

Don't blame you for your lack of curiosity though.

Python75
02-12-13, 11:21
Hey not judging and it can happen to any of us but are you ok having your kid raised in Phil? Your not looking at marrying the girl?Having been married and divorced before it is highly unlikely that I would marry the girl at the moment. She is aware that I see other girls before visiting her and accepts it. I am not sure what the future holds. I am very, very fond of her but am in no rush to make any life altering decisions at the moment.

For a pinay she is quite a remarkable girl.

Tally Wacker
02-12-13, 17:32
I thought I would paste an amusing chat I had on fc with a 22yr old virgin on my last trip. She ended up coming to my hotel one day for a few hours of fun.

Me:

You look beautiful.

I'm staying in Makati now at New World hotel.

Would you like to come for dinner and fun?

I'm TW

Her:

What kind of fun?

Me:

Hmmm watching tv, kissing and?

Her:

Haha I'm not game for that kind of fun I'm still virgin. And I want first time to be with special someone not for just fun.

Me:

Ah ok I understand.

How about just kissing and no sex honey?

Her:

Just kissing? Haha how can be sure

Me:

Haha well you can try and then you know.

Just kissing above the waist ok?

Her:

Haha I you kiss me, and me I will going to do? BJ you? Don't even know how to do that never tried before haha

Me:

Hehe I love your cute face and braces honey.

I can teach you how to BJ? Just kissing no sex I'm a gentleman

Her:

I'm really scared haha don't you afraid of my braces might hurts your hmmmm? Haha

Me:

Na don't be scarred honey we can go slow and I will show you.

Would you like to see a photo?

Whats your email address honey?

Her:

Atyahoo. Com.

Me:

Ok I emailed you.

Her:

Wow your big haha why you squished your balls in your lat pics? I think thats hurts haha

Me:

LOL it did not hurt hehe.

Did you like it honey?

I can teach you how to kiss the head of my cock and put it in your mouth slowly.

I would also love to kiss and lick your little niples hehe.

Its ok?

Her:

How long you will be staying here in phil? Becouse I'm working, I work 6days a week I'm not sure when I will be available fot teaching me how do that haha

Me:

I just arrived and will be here for 2 weeks for business.

Would you like that I teach you honey?

It will be fun.

Her:

Yeah but I wish it would be not hurts? Haha becouse sometimes I saw in the movie girls doing that, they really look like hurting haha, anyway we still have many time maybe before you leave we can teaching haha

Me:

Ah only in the movies they show like that hon.

I will go slow and be gentle and it will feel nice.

Would you like me to kiss and lick your littke pussy to?

Whats your cell #

Her:

Haha yes but kiss and lick only ok? No finger inside can you promise me that you will not break my hymen?

My # is

Me:

Yes of course honey only lick no fingers and no cock.

Did you ever have your pussy licked before? I love to do that.

Would you like to taste my cum a little when I cum?

Her:

Nope, never tried lick my pussy before, friends saying its really feels so great, yeah maybe just taste your cum a little haha

Me:

Yea girls like that hehe. Are you shaved honey or no?

Yes I would love to cum while you sucking my cock let you lick my cum

Did you have your nipples kissed before?

Her:

I'm shave haha, nope never tried that too, but kiss many times, I have expirience manytimes stealing kissed haha

Me:

You can steal kisses from me hehe.

Did you get wet with our flirting?

Her:

Yes I'm dripping wet haha, I need to sleep now.

Just message me.

Me:

Ok hon thanks I will. Gnight.

Her:

Good night teacher haha

Pak Mike
02-12-13, 22:29
And Tally Wacker. Was she in fact a virgin?

Hutsori
02-13-13, 03:11
The peril of meeting several girls from the dating sites is they each want Valentine's Day."Sorry baby, I'll out of town on business. We'll have our own Valentine's Day later". Expect to see some repercussions. Add to it last night I started getting texts and messages from girls long forgotten who want to meet tomorrow.

Last night I had a pleasant surprise from an old DIA contact (F&B employee at a top hotel in Makati). We exchanged several messages 2 months ago but it went nowhere. She insisted that our meeting not be at my condo. Fast forward and she texts me looking to meet at a Glorietta coffee shop. I counter with my condo. She says she'll come over for a chat. I reply she's going to do more than that. She's in the jeep and at my place in 10 minutes. We did chat for a bit. She met an Aussie on DIA and they spent a lot of time over a week on skype. The other day she met him at NAIA and they grab a cab for p1500 to his Makati hotel. She says that the cabbie told them his white cab is an official airport taxi. Arrived at the hotel and the p1500 fare is now p1800. The guy losses his cool but pays off the chiseler. From that point forward the Aussie's composure is gone. Soon after he is abrasively rude to a waitress. Because he's too hot tempered the DIA girl losses interest. So she splits. Pretty girl and a great lay who happily spent the night. Lost over $7. 50. I reckon her replacement was dearer than that. Keep calm and carry on

In closing I'll add the girls who work at the hotels and casinos have the most entertaining stories about their guests. Well worth your time.

Red Kilt
02-13-13, 04:10
The peril of meeting several girls from the dating sites is they each want Valentine's Day."Sorry baby, I'll out of town on business. We'll have our own Valentine's Day later". Expect to see some repercussions. Add to it last night I started getting texts and messages from girls long forgotten who want to meet tomorrow.V-Day in the Philippines is a frenzied over-hyped commercial event.

All restaurants will be booked out, and the lines at SOGO and other short-time establishments will be huge (I know. I got trapped in one several years ago when I forgot it was February 14)

All filipinas want some recognition on the day or preceding it. If you plan on doing something special in Manila especially, make sure you have a booking.

I just tell them that we don't take much notice of V Day in Australia. It is just another day for us. That usually gets an "Ohhhh really".

Tally Wacker
02-13-13, 04:59
Yes siree! I respected her wishes and we had fun.


And Tally Wacker. Was she in fact a virgin?

FruitNinja
02-13-13, 05:05
Me:

Ok hon thanks I will. Gnight.

Her:

Good night teacher hahagot to love the Philippines.

Cunning Stunt
02-13-13, 08:17
All restaurants will be booked out, and the lines at SOGO and other short-time establishments will be huge (I know. I got trapped in one several years ago when I forgot it was February 14)Thank you, Red. I had forgotten that it was the dreaded day tomorrow. I had intended to invite a friend along to a little slap and tickle at Eurotel. That would have been a mistake for so many reasons. Instead I'll barricade myself in the house, phone off the hook and CP switched to mute, and ride it out. Much better.

South by SW 2
02-13-13, 09:02
Red's summary makes me feel like I dodged a bullet.

I'll be in the Philippines a week after Valentines Day. It works out great. We get to chat about all the hugging and kissing we'll miss and I promise them a special belated Valentine's treat. They are primed for romance and I get away with bringing them some discount rack chocolates in red and pink foil.

All the opportunity with none of the hassles. It's like the movie Groundhog Day. But with spinners.

Wish I could say I cleverly planned it that way, but that's just how my schedule fell out.

BTW, Tally Wacker, you are true gentleman.

SbySW.


V-Day in the Philippines is a frenzied over-hyped commercial event.

Hutsori
02-13-13, 13:06
I thought I would paste an amusing chat I had on fc with a 22yr old virgin on my last trip. She ended up coming to my hotel one day for a few hours of fun.For the sake of brevity and to conserve the Internet I haven't included his transcript. Tally Wacker, just want to let you know that I was quoting it a short while ago today with the 21-year-old FC "virgin".5'4', long legs, pretty face, fair skin, high nose, tight stomach, tits a bit smaller than a handful, and unshaven.

A couple of differences. Firstly, I didn't know she was a virgin. Secondly, the conversation took place face to face at my place. After showing up 90 minutes late she found my condo and I brought her up. We had a chat for a while and when I attempted to kiss her she gave me a quick peck and then turned her head. Hmmm. I asked her why she came if she was so unreceptive. I reminded her of my profile and our messages and said I found this behavior confusing. She stated she was a virgin. Bloody hell! Tally Wacker's words came to mind- last time I had to manoeuver a girl so was when I was a teen. She admitted she was curious and knew what she was in for by coming over. When I promised nothing else than cunnilingus she agreed to shower. Existing the shower she announced she changed her mind. Bugger! Retreat Hell! I'll just attack in another direction (shamelessly lifted from the USMC). She agreed to get into bed and "just kiss".95% of the time if I get get to a girl's neck and ears the moaning begins and the stage is set. Sure enough I was soon licking, suckling and fingering her pussy."Put your cock in me." Her exact words. A not unpleasant change of course on her part. She neither behaved nor fucked like a virgin and was well acquainted with numerous positions.

Afterward she still maintained she had never been with a guy but has a lesbian lover who's been finger banging her for a couple of years. I greatly doubt I took her cherry; I suspect it was a gambit to chisel money from me."Wow! A virgin." I couldn't care less. Or perhaps it's her fantasy, so who am I to quibble?

Red Kilt
02-14-13, 11:05
I just saw this on a profile.

I thought it was quite clever. Gets her message over very nicely.

"I want to meet a caucasian gentleman, older than 30, know$ how to treat a lady"

Mr Enternational
02-14-13, 12:38
Afterward she still maintained she had never been with a guy but has a lesbian lover who's been finger banging her for a couple of years.Wow. How many of that goes around? The girl (non-chatmate, met with boots on the ground) I was with the other day is 19 years old, I was her third guy, and she had only had sex six times (eight now). She said before she was a lesbian. I said so you used to eat pussy? She said no, she just kissed a lot and used to finger chicks; sometimes she would put 2 fingers in she said!

Hutsori
02-14-13, 13:14
Wow. How many of that goes around? The girl (non-chatmate, met with boots on the ground) I was with the other day is 19 years old, I was her third guy, and she had only had sex six times (eight now). She said before she was a lesbian. I said so you used to eat pussy? She said no, she just kissed a lot and used to finger chicks; sometimes she would put 2 fingers in she said!I wonder how loose the cooch gets with just two fingers, even over a prolonged period. I got to call shenanigans on my girl's claim of virginity. After meeting the "virgin" yesterday afternoon I met a 31-year-old who hadn't had sex in 4 years. World of difference. The 31-year-old was as tight a drum. I ain't Dick Rambone but she needed to do reverse Kegels to get me in.

Met an 18-year-old 3-hole "virgin" this afternoon. A dreadfully toothy BJ. Worst one I've had in a very long while. She told me when masturbating she could barely slide one finger in herself. I had three in her in a moment. Cooch so loose a dreadnaught could steam up it. Started fingering her asshole and it slipped right in. So little resistance I asked her if she ever worked in the Arab world. Fucked her ass and no ass-virgin cries. No begging to stop or go slower. Soon enough she was demanding I pound her harder. I reckon her virginity was no more than 18 hours old.

Wazoo
02-14-13, 13:50
On my last trip I saw a woman who had a baby 2 years ago but had five minutes of sex only that one time. Nothing before or after. It was sort of like a small door that opens into a big house. I had to get her very excited to get through the door and then press hard. It was painful for her at first. She even had bleeding the next day. We had great times over the next few days after was able to relax. But it was an odd feeling of pressure-very tight up front and loose in back.

Tally Wacker
02-15-13, 01:52
Another funny chat fom my previous trip. This girl did not buy my bs and she was funny. LOL.

Her:

Whahhahahaa do I look like I love fucking around? Chillax you won't be able to keep up anyway. LOL.

Did you score from one of those desperate women

Me:

Ha not keep up? Hmmm try me hehe.

Oh I don't like desperate ones thats why I'm chatting you

Her:

Hmmmmm your good at this game. Kudos to you LOL.

Nah I'm kool being friend. I'm lookng for a serious relationship here not a fuck buddy.

Me:

A fuck buddy oh my! Well it does sound interesting.

Friend? Yea thats better. We can be friends with benifits ha

Her:

I don't sleep with my friends. Are you oneo those white dudes who hang out in cafe havana at night? LOL

Me:

Oh I wasnt talking about sleeping LOL.

I don't know cafe havana but I am a white dude.

I'm just joking around with you.

Her:

LOL kool then. So where do you hang out in makati. Cafe havana is that latin bar in greenbelt 3. Next to starbucks LOL

Me:

Oh thats across the street from my hotel. I got a coffee there this morning. I guess I do go there. Is that bad?

Her:

Nah LOL. Just many hoes. LOL but its a fun place. I go there a lot.

Me:

Wow you mean I could get a coffee and get fucked too? Thats why they say the Philippines are more fun ha? LOL.

Her:

Hhahhaha well that place is crowded with free lancers at night. Go for it bro. Have fun. I just go there to drink and dance LOL.

Me:

Oh I don't know about freelancers hmm. You sure know alot about that stuff LOL.

Actualy I went to a few of the bars in burgos just for fun. Its a fun place to listen to music and drink. Alot of sexy topless girls too.

Her:

LOL well yea. I know what other women do. If theres white meat there are freelancers LOL.

Never been to burgos I guess LOL. I justgo to greenbelt

Me:

Thats funny about white meat! Have you ever tried tube steak?

Member #4351
02-15-13, 15:45
Tally Wacker, was this just a txt chat or did you see her on webcam? Sure sounds like a guy to me.

Cunning Stunt
02-15-13, 16:05
My DIA girl of the week. She sure must have been badly mistreated in the past. Hope it wasn't an ISG member. Good Tagalog vocab practice though.


I am kinda snobbish if you are not nice to me. And not because I already had a kid you will ask to have sex with me or / and pay to sex me. I am not ***** and I am not looking for sex here!

Be nice or else I will kick your ass!

I want to meet a person who is willing to accept me for who I am and not for what I looked physically. I want a person who will not hurt me the one who will fight for me and afraid to loose someone like me. I also want to meet a very nice person who is not.

Rude.

Bastos, walang galang, malupit, marahas, walang pakundangan, brusko.

Unmannerly.

Walang galang, bastos, walang modo.

Cocky.

Bastos.

Cheeky.

Bastos.

Indecent.

Malaswa, bastos, masagwa, magaslaw, napakabastos, berde.

Nasty.

Bastos, pangit, nakapandidiri, napakarumi, karima-rimarim, masagwa.

Coarse.

Magaspang, magaslaw, maligasgas, mahina, bulgar, bastos.

Uncouth.

Masagwa, magaspang, kakaiba, pangit, kakatwa, bastos.

Obscene.

Malaswa, mahalay, masagwa, bastos, nakapandidiri, marumi.

Randy.

Bastos.

Gruff.

Magaralgal, bastos, magaspang.

Brusque.

Bastos.

Brazen.

Walang hiya, bastos, yari sa tanso.

Audacious.

Marahas, pangahas, matapang, bastos.

Insolent.

Walang galang, pusong, bastos, rude, walang pakundangan.

Impolite.

Bastos, walang pitagan, walang galang, walang pinag-aralan.

Saucy.

Walang pakundangan, walang galang, bastos, makisig, mapanghalina, mapang-akit.

Pert.

Walang galang, walang paggalang, bastos.

Impertinent.

Salipanya, pang-abala, rude, walang pitagan, walang hiya, bastos.

Discourteous.

Walang galang, bastos.

Ungracious.

Mabagsik, walang pakundangan, walang galang, walang pitagan, nakasusuklam, bastos.

Surly.

Masingit, masungit, bastos, mainit ang ulo.

Boorish.

Bastos.

Immodest.

Masagwa, malaswa, mahalay, bastos, hindi mahinhin.

Illiberal.

Bastos.

Ribald.

Malaswa, walang galang, walang pitagan, bastos, mahalay.

Shameless.

Hudyo, walang hiya, tabla ang mukha, makapal ang mukha, bastos.

Indelicate.

Magaspang, bastos, masagwa, mahalay, malaswa.

Disrespectful.

Walang galang, lapastangan, bastos, walang pitagan, walang pakundangan, magaspang.

Rough.

Magaspang, maligasgas, magaslaw, maalon, pasapyaw, bastos.

Old.

Matapang, pangahas, mapangahas, walang gulat, agresibo, bastos.

Uncourteous.

Bastos, walang galang, walang pitagan.

Don't BOTHER TO ASK IF I HAVE FB, I don't DO FBI'll get my coat then!

Tally Wacker
02-15-13, 16:32
It was a txt chat but I met up with her for a drink the following day. Thats just how she talks and was cool to hang with but wasnt open to any funny business.


Tally Wacker, was this just a txt chat or did you see her on webcam? Sure sounds like a guy to me.

FreebieFan
02-17-13, 06:22
Thank you, Red. I had forgotten that it was the dreaded day tomorrow. I had intended to invite a friend along to a little slap and tickle at Eurotel. That would have been a mistake for so many reasons. Instead I'll barricade myself in the house, phone off the hook and CP switched to mute, and ride it out. Much better.Few years back I had a V days afternoon free so decided the gf of the moment and I would adjourn to Sogo at 1pm for a quickie. Headed down Edsa, made the MOA U turn, and darn. Theres a whole long line of cars outside the Esda Sogo with a sign saying 2 hour Max Stay. But the line of cars was so long would have taken hours to get in.

Same with Kamagong Inn and the other place near there. Headed to Fort Bonifacio where there were extra security guards on patrol in all the car parks because its was the 14th. Not much joy there! The Sogo security guard told me the line starts at about 9am on Valentines day!

Hibukhibok
02-17-13, 07:32
of course you are correct, ge, and i am pleased that you spotted this misconceived post before i did as i doubt that i would have been so charitable. having brought up a british-filipino child here, i can confirm it is exactly as you say. rather than being ostracized for being a mixed race child, the reverse is the case. from grade school onwards my son was deferred to by his classmates, and quickly became a leader of his peer group.

in fact, this proved to be something of a mixed blessing as he became a little too self obsessed from being constantly seen as the hub of the wheel and so it was a good thing that i was mostly around to beat some reality into him (only kidding!). but on moving on to further education in uk, he initially found it difficult to adjust to being just another kid on the block instead of the kingpin, something that he will now freely admit.1. you did take care of your kid to the point of worrying about his education and bringing him back later to your own country, which implies that you did acknowledge your paternity legally.

2. i assume that having done that you you somehow did not dump the mother purely and simply, whatever the arrangement, at least materially.

so here is at least one mestizo kid well taken care of, you are a gentleman.

and presumably because of the fact that he was not in need (not to mention his innate talents) he ended up being the star of the barkada, good looking as his mom and clear skinned as his dad (possibly good looking too).

not all mestizo kids are so fortunate. many cases: dad did not acknowledge his offspring, dad went away, dad does not support the mom, dad does not even know he is dad, mom does not know who dad is. in which case the kid is not so happy, just as poor as any other illegitimate urchin in the barangay raised by the grand mother, possibly with a clear skin which may or may not be an advantage (at least not until much later).

now to which school did he go to in the phils? an ordinary public school or a private school, and if a private school one sponsored by the catholic church?

well until very recently illegitimate children were not accepted in these schools, i derive my knowledge from two teachers at such schools (*) which i used to know rather well let me say and that still i correspond with once in a while (no i did not forget to send them a valentine's card this year, irony of ironies).

cebu: santo nino and immaculate conception.

this discrimination extended to the better universities, cebu: sto tomas, san jose recoletos.

now the phils being the phils, no child of the kyrida of a rich man was ever denied admission to the above schools but of course, no such leniency w / o a little gift frequently renewed.

now with your 2300 posts i should defer to your idyillic vision of the phils of course. i am sorry that i can't.

Hibukhibok
02-17-13, 08:04
My DIA girl of the week. She sure must have been badly mistreated in the past. Hope it wasn't an ISG member. Good Tagalog vocab practice though.Extremely interesting, I knew a few words already and I will look up the others, prefixes, roots, suffixes.

Mr. Cunning Linguist please take note.

Now she already has a baby at 20, I assume that from this diatribe that the father was probably Pinoy but of course this is not certain.

There are many repetitions, maybe I will edit her list somewhat (and also add a few more spanish words besides bastos and some french words too for added international impact) and ask her for a few tips, who knows a nice relationship in the offing?

Well another quiet, demure, shy, naive, docile and submissive Filipina (possibly even a virgin who knows) as I like to think about them. In my dreams of course as my experiences are quite the opposite but I must have been extremely unlucky so far.

Hibukhibok
02-17-13, 08:31
Few years back I had a V days afternoon free so decided the gf of the moment and I would adjourn to Sogo at 1pm for a quickie. Headed down Edsa, made the MOA U turn, and darn. Theres a whole long line of cars outside the Edsa Sogo with a sign saying 2 hour Max Stay. But the line of cars was so long it would have taken hours to get in.

Same with Kamagong Inn and the other place near there. Headed to Fort Bonifacio where there were extra security guards on patrol in all the car parks because its was the 14th. Not much joy there! The Sogo security guard told me the line starts at about 9am on Valentines day!So funny! Only in the Phils. Now no one is writing down the license plates numbers and discreetly taking pictures along the queues? The Filipino spirit of enterprise and its well established mastery of digital technology is not seizing the opportunity?

Oh, I forgot all these couples are perfectly legit and can produce their marriage licenses at any time. Which incredibly may in fact be true for a fair percentage.

Well, another triumph of the Catholic Church, turning the feast day of an obscure saint into an orgiastic celebration of physical love. Well, wait a minute, I have got it wrong in the old days it was the other way around, turning a pagan manifestation into a Christian one. Well now who cares?

Gangles
02-17-13, 08:41
Hib, you are talking through your arse.

There are thousands of foreigners living in the Phils with kids. These guys are really happy, and life is good for them, their wives / gf, and their kids.

I know maybe a hundred of them.

Take a reality check before you spit out any more of your bile.

G


1. You did take care of your kid to the point of worrying about his education and bringing him back later to your own country, which implies that you did acknowledge your paternity legally.

2. I assume that having done that you you somehow did not dump the mother purely and simply, whatever the arrangement, at least materially.

So here is at least one mestizo kid well taken care of, you are a gentleman.

And presumably because of the fact that he was not in need (not to mention his innate talents) he ended up being the star of the barkada, good looking as his mom and clear skinned as his dad (possibly good looking too).

Not all mestizo kids are so fortunate. Many cases: dad did not acknowledge his offspring, dad went away, dad does not support the mom, dad does not even know he is dad, mom does not know who dad is. In which case the kid is not so happy, just as poor as any other illegitimate urchin in the barangay raised by the grand mother, possibly with a clear skin which may or may not be an advantage (at least not until much later).

Now to which school did he go to in the Phils? An ordinary public school or a private school, and if a private school one sponsored by the Catholic Church?

Well until very recently illegitimate children were not accepted in these schools, I derive my knowledge from two teachers at such schools (*) which I used to know rather well let me say and that still I correspond with once in a while (no I did not forget to send them a Valentine's card this year, irony of ironies).

Cebu: Santo Nino and Immaculate Conception.

This discrimination extended to the better Universities, Cebu: Sto Tomas, San Jose Recoletos.

Now the Phils being the Phils, no child of the kyrida of a rich man was ever denied admission to the above schools but of course, no such leniency w / o a little gift frequently renewed.

Now with your 2300 posts I should defer to your idyillic vision of the Phils of course. I am sorry that I can't.

Red Kilt
02-17-13, 08:54
Now she already has a baby at 20, I assume . SNIPAlready? For many girls, if they get to 20 and don't have a baby they think they must be ugly or something

FreebieFan
02-17-13, 08:59
Well, another triumph of the Catholic Church, turning the feast day of an obscure saint into an orgiastic celebration of physical love. Well, wait a minute, I have got it wrong in the old days it was the other way around, turning a pagan manifestation into a Christian one.I thought Hallmark and Interflora invented it. LOL

Cunning Stunt
02-17-13, 09:41
1. you did take care of your kid to the point of worrying about his education and bringing him back later to your own country, which implies that you did acknowledge your paternity legally. snip.

now with your 2300 posts i should defer to your idyillic vision of the phils of course. i am sorry that i can't.hang about, mate. re-read my post and then tell me just where exactly i said that my son was born out of wedlock? you have a bad habit of jumping to conclusions and making wild and unsubstantiated assumptions based on the slightest of evidence, such as what your pair of teacher girlfriends told you (which might and might not be true or partially true).

even when born outside of marriage, i know of many cases where the absent foreign father has continued to provide support for their child and that child, far from being disadvantaged, has all the benefits and more of his 100% pinoy peers. for those that don't have this support, then i guess that their foreign dna which tend to often make them bigger and stronger, cannot be a disadvantage in the daily struggle facing all poor and fatherless kids in the philippines, of which there are legion.

as to my 'idyllic vision', i think that i ditched that on about day 2 of my move here over 15 years ago, a length of residency which might just have more relevancy than my number of isg posts!

Tally Wacker
02-19-13, 05:46
Your recent pics arent the 10000 P girl are they? What about that report?


You guys are great.

Just a little while ago I called her. Her mother decided she will let her go as I long as I buy her.

A list of items or to make it easier for me just western union 10000 pesos. Girl told me thats the way.

Guess I shouldn't have sent her pics of me in my new bmw.

She said don't worry sweetheart 10000 is nothing for you.

Learned my lesson but damn she is so freaking hot.

Took your advice and said so sorry I have to cancel trip. So busy.

I promise I will post reports when I get back

Hibukhibok
02-19-13, 06:49
hang about, mate. re-read my post and then tell me just where exactly i said that my son was born out of wedlock? you have a bad habit of jumping to conclusions and making wild and unsubstantiated assumptions based on the slightest of evidence, such as what your pair of teacher girlfriends told you (which might and might not be true or partially true).

even when born outside of marriage, i know of many cases where the absent foreign father has continued to provide support for their child and that child, far from being disadvantaged, has all the benefits and more of his 100% pinoy peers. for those that don't have this support, then i guess that their foreign dna which tend to often make them bigger and stronger, cannot be a disadvantage in the daily struggle facing all poor and fatherless kids in the philippines, of which there are legion.

as to my 'idyllic vision', i think that i ditched that on about day 2 of my move here over 15 years ago, a length of residency which might just have more relevancy than my number of isg posts!oops, sorry for my assumptions. i forgot that i am talking here with a select group of very responsible gentlemen, my apologies to you and the others. i have a daughter and a son and they are so white that when they were small their mother was assumed to be the nanny (and asked if she could switch employers for a better compensation.).

yes when they were in the phils they were beloved by the extended family and the subject of much attention by strangers, not necessarily welcome btw even when well meaning as was nearly always the case.

and yes i married the mom at the church later, the only wedding which counts for her, the previous one being strictly for visa purposes. that being said i have traveled in the phils and observed more than once poor mestizo kids whose fathers were obviously absent physically or western union wise.

as to illegitimacy being an obstacle to a child's education i stand by what i said, girl friend or no girl friend.

there was however a fairly recent decision (i read it in a filipino newspaper) that it could no longer constitute grounds for being denied admission to certain "elite" schools, colleges or universities. i will try to find the reference.

for an admittedly very special and sad case of mestizo kids see

'amerasians' in the philippines fight for recognition.

by sunshine lichauco de leon, for cnn.

updated 9:06 pm est, sat march 3, 2012.

also (unrelated) even if you acknowledge your illegitimate child by a filipina, he / she will not have your last name (do i understand this correctly?)

"an illegitimate child shall use the surname of his mother (art. 176, f. c.) regardless of whether or not his father admits paternity. (opinion of the civil code revision committee, september 23, 1988)".

maybe nice to know before you decide to impregnate your (all too willing) dia partner.

Hibukhibok
02-19-13, 07:40
Already? For many girls, if they get to 20 and don't have a baby they think they must be ugly or somethingI am not so naive. In Madagascar it is very average and not viewed with disapproval on the contrary, proves that the girl can procreate and later on render to the ancestors the cult they deserve.

By having children who in turn will honor them (by once in a while opening their collective graves, rearranging their bones in new shrouds, much feasting, oxen sacrifices, libations and unavoidably copulations, hopefully fruitful).

My mother was forever wondering where her white sheets were disappearing until one of her maids told her that she and the others (otherwise scrupulously honest) had to steal them (to make shrouds) otherwise terrible things would happen to the household.

Be thankful that in the Phils the Catholic Church has eradicated such (or equivalent) practices but not the various fecundity cults which predated its arrival and recycled them to its advantage and I assume yours.

GoodEnough
02-19-13, 23:20
Also (unrelated) even if you acknowledge your illegitimate child by a Filipina, he / she will not have your last name (do I understand this correctly?)

"An illegitimate child shall use the surname of his mother (Art. 176, F. C.) regardless of whether or not his father admits paternity. (Opinion of the Civil Code Revision Committee, September 23, 1988)".

Maybe nice to know before you decide to impregnate your (all too willing) DIA partner.I don't believe this is true any longer. I have an American friend who has children here, has never been married to the mother, and all of the children have his last name. I believe that all that was required to make this happen was his signature on the birth certificate.

GE

Makeupaname
02-20-13, 01:16
The "Revilla Bill" penned in 2004 by former Senator / Actor Ramon Revilla Sr, allows illegitimate children to legally use the fathers name as long as he acknowledges the child. Very useful for him since he has more than 80+ children

Aibolit
02-21-13, 02:14
Respectable gentlemen!

I am trying to start using DIA and other similar sites in anticipation to my visit to BKK and AC (or Manila. Haven't decided for sure yet). I would greatly appreciate to hear your thoughts on the following:

1. DIA is a free sight and had few nice exchanges with girls from BKK and Phil. Are there additional free sights that are recommended to meet local girls (non-pros, semi-pros)?

2. Any advice (from experience) of how is best to translate a nice chat / Skype into a GFE experience upon arrival?

Many thanks in advance!

A

WestCoast1
02-21-13, 02:31
Respectable gentlemen!

I am trying to start using DIA and other similar sites in anticipation to my visit to BKK and AC (or Manila. Haven't decided for sure yet). I would greatly appreciate to hear your thoughts on the following:

1. DIA is a free sight and had few nice exchanges with girls from BKK and Phil. Are there additional free sights that are recommended to meet local girls (non-pros, semi-pros)?

2. Any advice (from experience) of how is best to translate a nice chat / Skype into a GFE experience upon arrival?

Many thanks in advance!

AOdd are small of meeting non-pro's or 'regular' girls in AC on dating sites for naughty meetups. If you go to AC, hit the bars and massage places. Skip the 'regular' girls. OTOH, Manila and Cebu are ripe for regular gals.

Member #4387
02-21-13, 09:39
Respectable gentlemen!

I am trying to start using DIA and other similar sites in anticipation to my visit to BKK and AC (or Manila. Haven't decided for sure yet). I would greatly appreciate to hear your thoughts on the following:

1. DIA is a free sight and had few nice exchanges with girls from BKK and Phil. Are there additional free sights that are recommended to meet local girls (non-pros, semi-pros)?

2. Any advice (from experience) of how is best to translate a nice chat / Skype into a GFE experience upon arrival?

Many thanks in advance!

ADia, Filipino Cupid (fc) , Tagged. Com and more have loads of pinays in avery aspect there is to it. Dia has, in my exp, a fair share more of p4p's than fc. And I have during my stay in Manila met a few both now and my last stay in November last year. They have mostly decent profiles all of them but if you choose people mentioning, fun, openminded, romance / dating in the profile and they have left out the ever boring LTR you should be fine.

Just asknthe girls straight out what you are up to. I have few profiles out there and I give them a pretty goodbidea I am not seeking a long time girlfriend. I tell them I look for fun so the chats are quicly translated into what kindnof fun I look for, hehe. The funny part, and I believe you find this only in amazing phils, is that the girls don't mind you seeing a lot of other girls (atleast they say so). They are just happy to meet to have a few hours of decent life (surroundings, eating and so on). I am open about seeing a lot of other girls as well so they know they can not stay forever. Ofcourse every now and then you pick the wrong girl, hit and miss, but thisntime I have screened it a lot better before meeting as in webcam (many girls look very pretty in arranged photos in their profiles but quite ordinary in real life). Webcamsessions prevents this. I also ask them to raise up so I can see the ass as I like the ass shaped in a certain way. Just a few tips.

And nb! There might be rare exceptions but mostly girls in datingsites are not hi so or middle class girls. Models or extreme beauty you find through philnor korean sources and it will cost you. But you can meet beautiful girls and to disclosure if they are hardned in the game you find out when you meet them as newbies often are shy and wants the room to be dark when FS starts. Regular p4p don't mind doing it in bright light.

Hutsori
02-21-13, 16:11
1. DIA is a free sight and had few nice exchanges with girls from BKK and Phil. Are there additional free sights that are recommended to meet local girls (non-pros, semi-pros)?

2. Any advice (from experience) of how is best to translate a nice chat / Skype into a GFE experience upon arrival?

Many thanks in advance!1) I think DIA is the best free site. Tagged is alright, but its search function is poor, and it's slow. FC is well worth the meager sum; you can browse members as a standard, i.e. free, user but messaging in crippled. FilipinoFriendFinder wants your money but the quality and quantity of members is far exceeded by FC and DIA. PinaLove appears to have a good number of quality girls, but I haven't paid for the membership, and I recall a free member is also crippled. Badoo is supposedly the hot "in" site around the world, but I haven't found anything compelling enough for me to pay for it. As a free user you can send and receive messages, but you can't see who's interested in you. HornyMatches has far too few members to make it worth your time or dime.

2) If she's in your bed I think it's rare to not find a GFE with any Filipina including the most hardened working girls.

In your profile be honest. If you're looking for short-time interludes don't write you're looking for the love of your life, want to get married, and bring her home with you. I've been told this: "Every guy writes he's Prince Charming, but when you contact him you find out he's a frog." I think it's folly to start high in her estimation and march yourself down to the gutter. Better to establish you're looking for sex and then in your conversations show what a charming and humorous guy you are. Start low and work high. Don't mention money, visas, etc. Never try to entice a girl by offering to pay her. If she's looking to get paid she'll let you know. If she isn't a working girl you've just offended her. There are girls who want money for their "tuition", and in their minds they don't see themselves as prostitutes.

Other than trying to control a girl I think the worst thing one can be is wishy washy. The girls will twist you into knots. Establish in your mind whether you're willing to travel to meet them and where, how long you'll wait (they're almost always late) , whether you'll pay for a 3-hour cab ride for her to meet you, etc. Personally I refuse to go anywhere to meet them. It's always my condo. I'll wait 60 minutes past the meeting time unless the girl has been contacting me to let me know she'll be late, bad traffic, etc. Cancellations do happen. I'm always forgiving about it the first time because I've invested some effort to arrange the meeting. If it happens repeatedly she's dropped.

It seems girls will always want to know how many women you've been with. If you tell them the truth you may burn yourself. If you lie and say "none" she won't believe it. Sidestep it by telling her you don't discuss your past, you won't ask her about hers, and you prefer to focus on her and the present.

From time to time I come across strongly worded apparent accusations: "You're just looking for fun!" and "So, you just want to fuck me?" In every case my reply is "You've read my profile" and that I'd like to enjoy "intimate encounters" with them. This often works; not that it's persuasive, but because it's honest. When talking to the girls in my bed they told me this challenge is merely a test.

How much texting are you willing to put up with? If you like 18-year-old girls who are unemployed be prepared for the phone to be vibrating continuously. The young will consume your time in unproductive ways.

Even if you're on holiday it's best to tell the girl you're here for work. You have a legitimate reason to send her on her way, not answer her texts, cancel a meeting if something better comes along, etc.

Lastly, make certain you're only conversing with girls who are within a close proximity to you. Assuming you'll be in Manila there's no reason to be interacting with someone sitting in Cebu or Iloilo. Heck, even Antipolo may be too far. You'll get messages from Pinays in the Middle East, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, etc.

WestCoast1
02-21-13, 20:01
. Excellent advice.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1389560]In your profile be honest. If you're looking for short-time interludes don't write you're looking for the love of your life, want to get married, and bring her home with you. SNIP Other than trying to control a girl I think the worst thing one can be is wishy washy.NOTHING is worse than being vague in your online profile. When I turn mine on (2 weeks prior to my trip) , it is extremely specific, like: "Like traveling Asia. Not looking for any kind of lasting relationship. Adult fun only in my hotel room. I'm generous and clean. Don't bother writing to me if you are looking for anything else." I am aware that this kind of thing is not everyone's cup of tea, as its strongly worded. But any woman who responds to this is expected F*CK and get lost. For those who have not been in phils, about half the ladies who respond to the profile DID NOT READ IT. I get 20-40 responses per day for the first few days the profile is up, which dwindles to about 5-7 per day thereafter. I don't use my picture. If you choose another, more romantic approach, you (will unknowingly) give the wrong impression. Strong (read: STRONG) in the pinay culture is romance, kids, MARRIAGE. Many pinay, in chat, don't understand how a man can be single / divorced for a long time with no intention of marrying (its just not in the cultural norm they are used to). They will assume you want marriage at some point in your life, even if its later. They feel tricked when you drop them after you return home. Even though you never talked long-term with her, she may assume that's what you meant. Be careful.


Establish in your mind whether you're willing to travel to meet them and where, how long you'll wait (they're almost always late) ,Different approach. While Hut insists his girls come to his condo, I insist we meet in public the first time (never at my place). It gives both parties a chance to back out of the situation. I make it known in chat that if she leaves the public place with me, then we are heading to a hotel for the bang. Again, this approach is not for everyone.


Lastly, make certain you're only conversing with girls who are within a close proximity to you.Similar: I never travel out of my hotel's city to meet: the girl must come to my city. Should I fly to CDO for a few days, I'm not traveling to Dipolog for some girl (she will come to me, and if she's a new girl, she will pay her initial transport). I refund the round-trip bus fare upon meeting (even before going to my hotel, in case she decides to go home right then).

FruitNinja
02-21-13, 21:07
1) I think DIA is the best free site. Tagged is alright, but its search function is poor, and it's slow. FC is well worth the meager sum; you can browse members as a standard, I. E. Free, user but messaging in crippled. FilipinoFriendFinder wants your money but the quality and quantity of members is far exceeded by FC and DIA. PinaLove appears to have a good number of quality girls, but I haven't paid for the membership, and I recall a free member is also crippled. Badoo is supposedly the hot "in" site around the world, but I haven't found anything compelling enough for me to pay for it. As a free user you can send and receive messages, but you can't see who's interested in you. HornyMatches has far too few members to make it worth your time or dime.

2) If she's in your bed I think it's rare to not find a GFE with any Filipina including the most hardened working girls.

In your profile be honest. If you're looking for short-time interludes don't write you're looking for the love of your life, want to get married, and bring her home with you. I've been told this: "Every guy writes he's Prince Charming, but when you contact him you find out he's a frog." I think it's folly to start high in her estimation and March yourself down to the gutter. Better to establish you're looking for sex and then in your conversations show what a charming and humorous guy you are. Start low and work high. Don't mention money, visas, etc. Never try to entice a girl by offering to pay her. If she's looking to get paid she'll let you know. If she isn't a working girl you've just offended her. There are girls who want money for their "tuition", and in their minds they don't see themselves as prostitutes.

Other than trying to control a girl I think the worst thing one can be is wishy washy. The girls will twist you into knots. Establish in your mind whether you're willing to travel to meet them and where, how long you'll wait (they're almost always late) , whether you'll pay for a 3-hour cab ride for her to meet you, etc. Personally I refuse to go anywhere to meet them. It's always my condo. I'll wait 60 minutes past the meeting time unless the girl has been contacting me to let me know she'll be late, bad traffic, etc. Cancellations do happen. I'm always forgiving about it the first time because I've invested some effort to arrange the meeting. If it happens repeatedly she's dropped.

It seems girls will always want to know how many women you've been with. If you tell them the truth you may burn yourself. If you lie and say "none" she won't believe it. Sidestep it by telling her you don't discuss your past, you won't ask her about hers, and you prefer to focus on her and the present.

From time to time I come across strongly worded apparent accusations: "You're just looking for fun!" and "So, you just want to fuck me?" In every case my reply is "You've read my profile" and that I'd like to enjoy "intimate encounters" with them. This often works; not that it's persuasive, but because it's honest. When talking to the girls in my bed they told me this challenge is merely a test.

How much texting are you willing to put up with? If you like 18-year-old girls who are unemployed be prepared for the phone to be vibrating continuously. The young will consume your time in unproductive ways.

Even if you're on holiday it's best to tell the girl you're here for work. You have a legitimate reason to send her on her way, not answer her texts, cancel a meeting if something better comes along, etc.

Lastly, make certain you're only conversing with girls who are within a close proximity to you. Assuming you'll be in Manila there's no reason to be interacting with someone sitting in Cebu or Iloilo. Heck, even Antipolo may be too far. You'll get messages from Pinays in the Middle East, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, etc.This is very helpful. Thanks for taking the time.

Hutsori
02-22-13, 01:59
Different approach. While Hut insists his girls come to his condo, I insist we meet in public the first time (never at my place). It gives both parties a chance to back out of the situation. I make it known in chat that if she leaves the public place with me, then we are heading to a hotel for the bang. Again, this approach is not for everyone.I initially did the public meet and greet, but switched to better manage my time. Travel, waiting around because she's late, etc. all add up. Also, I don't want to meet someone who's still on the fence. By coming straight to my place she demonstrates firm commitment to the cause. I've also found the since the girl has been thinking about it for hours she is much hornier, so emotionally and physically she's primed and ready for action. Much less likely to have second thoughts. Moreover, at a mall there are other things competing for her attention, especially if you're at one well known for guys prowling - Robinsons and Greenbelt. Only have experienced one back out. Now, have I been less than wowed by some of the girls who've turned up? Yep. So what? She's here, wet and willing. It's more fun than watching TV or mall wandering, ain't it?

Cunning Stunt
02-22-13, 03:38
Models or extreme beauty you find through philnor korean sources and it will cost you.A lot of it can come down to timing and been in situ and available. Last year I was contacted by a legitimate fashion model (this was obvious from the photos on her facebook page) who was given my number by a friend. She was mega hot and would normally be unavailable for p4p and if she was available, you would be looking at the sharp end of 10k. But she was between shoots and desperately sort of cash. She wanted 6k but after a bit of dickering agreed to a 2 round bout that day for 3k. She was absolutely stunningly beautiful and a surprisingly good lay (not all starfishes then) , but the real buzz was walking into Eurotel with her on my arm and hearing the clunks as jaws bounced off the floor. Priceless.

Aibolit
02-22-13, 04:23
All. Thank you for the valuable advice about dating sites! A

Wicked Roger
02-22-13, 12:01
A lot of it can come down to timing and been in situ and available. Last year I was contacted by a legitimate fashion model (this was obvious from the photos on her facebook page) who was given my number by a friend. She was mega hot and would normally be unavailable for p4p and if she was available, you would be looking at the sharp end of 10k. But she was between shoots and desperately sort of cash. She wanted 6k but after a bit of dickering agreed to a 2 round bout that day for 3k. She was absolutely stunningly beautiful and a surprisingly good lay (not all starfishes then) , but the real buzz was walking into Eurotel with her on my arm and hearing the clunks as jaws bounced off the floor. Priceless.Had the same with a FHM model when walking around Cebu (Ayala etc) lots guys just stare and cost me the price of coffee and an ice cream (really not bola). And I see her a lot and she has a few friends.

Another I see is a current fashion model in Manila and again I help where I can but once you know these girls and are nice / respectful etc (well until the clothes are off LOL) then you meet all her model friends as well.

Is a nice and proves that a fat old bugger can still do it more than these boastful young bucks on this forum LOL

Aibolit
02-22-13, 15:33
Had the same with a FHM model when walking around Cebu (Ayala etc) lots guys just stare and cost me the price of coffee and an ice cream (really not bola). And I see her a lot and she has a few friends.

Another I see is a current fashion model in Manila and again I help where I can but once you know these girls and are nice / respectful etc (well until the clothes are off LOL) then you meet all her model friends as well.

Is a nice and proves that a fat old bugger can still do it more than these boastful young bucks on this forum LOLI found this exchange interesting. I'm into model-type of looks (doesn't have to be an model per se) , but I always come for short periods of time to Asia. Consequently, I feel that unless I'm unusually lucky on DIA or the like. I have very little chance to chat up the model types. Let me know, if you think differently.

I thank you in advance for your input.

A

Wicked Roger
02-22-13, 17:40
I found this exchange interesting. I'm into model-type of looks (doesn't have to be an model per se) , but I always come for short periods of time to Asia. Consequently, I feel that unless I'm unusually lucky on DIA or the like. I have very little chance to chat up the model types. Let me know, if you think differently.

I thank you in advance for your input.

AYou are correct, The girls I know I have known for some time and I am considered a really nice guy with a few kinks on the side LOL. It takes time, patience and being a nice guy. Those visiting for a short time may get lucky in the bars / clubs they hang out at (and get photographed in a lot) but someone in the country for a week or 2 may not want to invest that time

Hutsori
02-23-13, 01:43
i found this exchange interesting. i'm into model-type of looks (doesn't have to be an model per se) , but i always come for short periods of time to asia. consequently, i feel that unless i'm unusually lucky on dia or the like. i have very little chance to chat up the model types. let me know, if you think differently.

i thank you in advance for your input.

aknow the product management triangle. cost - speed of delivery - quality. pick any two.

if you want fast and cheap you won't get quality, i.e. model types.

cheap and quality involves a lot of time, which you say you don't have.

quality and fast will come at a cost. best bet would be the upscale ktvs such as air force one or the several places in quezon city. i'm sure there are others. search the forum for ktv reports.

Aibolit
02-23-13, 02:37
know the product management triangle. cost. speed of delivery. quality. pick any two.

if you want fast and cheap you won't get quality, i. e. model types.

cheap and quality involves a lot of time, which you say you don't have.

quality and fast will come at a cost. best bet would be the upscale ktvs such as air force one or the several places in quezon city. i'm sure there are others. search the forum for ktv reports.heard of this one just today. if i like the girl (before or after the session). can i invite her to the hotel for st / lt?

a

Hutsori
02-23-13, 04:08
Heard of this one just today. If I like the girl (before or after the session). Can I invite her to the hotel for ST / LT?

AI am not a KTV customer; I was at one once years ago, and that's that. To me these places are about "face" and "being the big shot", catering to ego-driven males posing before other males (probably all latent homosexuals). Anyway, private VIP rooms on site seem to be the norm - a controlled environment where the business can extract as many pesos as possible from you. Of course at a price anything is possible. Research this topic well because some upscale gentlemen's KTV's are happy to take your money but won't deliver until you become better known to them, i.e. a frequent customer, or are vouched for by a member. My understanding is Air Force One is not this type of place. It seems AFO is amongst the best known KTV's, particularly by foreigners, so there ought to be many reports on it here and elsewhere on the Internet, such as this report http://www.wjams.com/article.php?n=16

Hutsori
02-24-13, 05:58
On DIA you may want to check out 19-year-old Yumichang. On her profile she writes: "I'm looking for someone who's willing to help and support me finish my studies."

X Man
02-24-13, 10:33
18-40 Hutsori. Doesn't that put you about 20 years out of her target range?


On DIA you may want to check out 19-year-old Yumichang. On her profile she writes: "I'm looking for someone who's willing to help and support me finish my studies."

Hutsori
02-24-13, 11:54
18-40 Hutsori. Doesn't that put you about 20 years out of her target range?You're a sharp wit, X Acto. Recall you're one of Glitter's stooges, another graduate of the Dullard School for the Dotty and the Potty.

It was just a PSA for the punters so inclined. I have no interest in paying someone's tuition fees. Have at it.

Aibolit
02-24-13, 21:46
Thank you, all, for your insights into dating sites. I've been working few places, such as

DIA, PinaLove. Com and similar thing for Thai (ThaiLove?). I have to say, that aside from DIA, I wasn't able to develop any meaningful discussions with BKK and Manila ladies (relevant to my upcoming trip). I didn't cast my net too wide, aiming only for best looking girls, but so far DIA seems to be by far the most prolific in terms of result vs. Effort.

If anyone has interesting success stories derived from online preparation like mine. Please do share!

Happy hunting! A

Hutsori
02-25-13, 03:02
Thank you, all, for your insights into dating sites. I've been working few places, such as

DIA, PinaLove. Com and similar thing for Thai (ThaiLove?). I have to say, that aside from DIA, I wasn't able to develop any meaningful discussions with BKK and Manila ladies (relevant to my upcoming trip). I didn't cast my net too wide, aiming only for best looking girls, but so far DIA seems to be by far the most prolific in terms of result vs. Effort.

If anyone has interesting success stories derived from online preparation like mine. Please do share!

Happy hunting! ADon't forget FC. I think you'll be pleased with what you'll find.

Ebauche
02-25-13, 03:11
Don't forget FC. I think you'll be pleased with what you'll find.Thumbs up! FC is useful worldwide.

X Man
02-25-13, 03:38
It was just a joke, don't get your panties in a twist. Responding with an insult as well as dragging out your past conflict with another forum member is kind of lame.

X acto. I like that.


You're a sharp with, X Acto. Recall you're one of Glitter's stooges, another graduate of the Dullard School for the Dotty and the Potty.

It was just a PSA for the punters so inclined. I have no interest in paying someone's tuition fees. Have at it.

Hutsori
02-25-13, 04:20
It was just a joke, don't get your panties in a twist.Ah yes, the unoriginal retort of the dim and unfunny. Typical. If you're going to start the tussle make sure your mind has the muscle.

Cunning Stunt
02-25-13, 05:39
Thought we had seen a new more worthwhile online persona recently with a tad more helpfulness and some attempts to ingratiate with fellow members. And then one pinprick to its delicate, easily bruised little ego and it reverts to obnoxious wanker type.

And you have the neck to call X unoriginal, dim and unfunny. No doubt you will now repeat your silly glitter jibe for umpteenth time (although previous instances have been rightly removed by admin). I imagine that you think you are prime beef in your flabby little mind when in fact you are more like corned beef.

When will you get over your hurt feelings?

Wicked Roger
02-25-13, 12:30
And then one pinprick to its delicate, easily bruised little ego and it reverts to obnoxious wanker type.

And you have the neck to call X unoriginal, dim and unfunny. No doubt you will now repeat your silly glitter jibe for umpteenth time (although previous instances have been rightly removed by admin). I imagine that you think you are prime beef in your flabby little mind when in fact you are more like corned beef.

When will you get over your hurt feelings?Likely not CS, maybe he like a ping pong FR war etc but this is a tad silly I agree, and calling X names will not impact a thing as he is always called names LOL.


If you're going to start the tussle make sure your mind has the muscle.Maybe there means another muscle as well.

X Man
02-25-13, 12:44
WR, I resent that! I had to stifle a chuckle here in the office. X acto.


SNIP.

, and calling X names will not impact a thing as he is always called names LOL.

X Man
02-25-13, 15:22
Dang you WR, everywhere I go, people calling me names. Most recently some 30+ lady named Eva on dia.

"hello gorgeous"

I've got a good heart, so it really pains me to simply delete the 30+ ladies. Especially when they call me such nice names. LOL. Xorgeous

Wicked Roger
02-25-13, 16:58
Dang you WR, everywhere I go, people calling me names. Most recently some 30+ lady named Eva on dia.

"hello gorgeous"

I've got a good heart, so it really pains me to simply delete the 30+ ladies. Especially when they call me such nice names. LOL. XorgeousRemember I have seen and drank with you at Red Lips and never heard any of the girls say those words. In my case they call me "Mr Handsum" and "Mr Gwapo" but then they have good eyesight LOL

Hutsori
02-25-13, 19:03
Originally Posted by Cunning Stunt.

And then one pinprick to its delicate, easily bruised little ego and it reverts to obnoxious wanker type."Disproportionate response!" Ah, the sweet cry of the impotent, Chief Scammer.


And you have the neck to call X unoriginal, dim and unfunny.He is. It's plainly evident. That you find the well worn "It was just a joke, don't get your panties in a twist" clever and funny is especially sad. I thought you were the 4-watt bulb amongst your group of 2-watts. How mistaken I was.


No doubt you will now repeat your silly glitter jibe for umpteenth timeYou just did so. Why shall I do the work when others prove so helpful?


(although previous instances have been rightly removed by admin).True, they were removed. As were your comments. You know what they call the person who presents half the truth, don't ya? The only truth of you is your staying true to character.


I imagine that you think you are prime beef in your flabby little mind when in fact you are more like corned beef.Appreciate you seeing some substance to my mind. I just see dust and cobwebs in the void that's yours.


When will you get over your hurt feelings?Aw c'mon now. Since the past tiff I haven't had a thing to say to you and your stooges. There's a grudge, and it's nursed by the Dullard School's alumni. I never strike first, but be sure I strike best. And last.

SuperMuda
02-25-13, 21:41
Guys,

I love coming on here to read posts regarding Women and the Hobby we all enjoy. Stop Attacking each other and remember we all have a common Hobby that we enjoy.

Lets get the focus back on our Sport.

Love them pinays

X Man
02-26-13, 01:38
Well, we can see at least ONE person has a high opinion of Hutsori.

[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1391366 SNIP.

I never strike first, but be sure I strike best. And last.[/QUOTE]

Cunning Stunt
02-26-13, 03:02
Well, we can see at least ONE person has a high opinion of Hutsori.He is legend in his own lunchtime (corned beef sandwiches?).

Ssshhh. Nobody quote this. I suspect that our touchy drama queen cannot see this post, poor little flower. And if he carries on doing a frenzy by logging out, copying text and then logging back in, he will end up getting his ass canned like our late, unlamented Teuton.

Brilliant stratagem, J. If antagonists cannot see each other, they cannot fight. Unfortunately, there is no way to hide quotes.

Tally Wacker
02-26-13, 05:47
Unfortanatlely it will never happen here with such a challenge of who knows more and who can post the last know it all post.


Guys,

I love coming on here to read posts regarding Women and the Hobby we all enjoy. Stop Attacking each other and remember we all have a common Hobby that we enjoy.

Lets get the focus back on our Sport.

Love them pinays

Red Kilt
02-26-13, 06:45
I have been chatting off and on to a rather sweet internet contact.

I told her 1 week ago that we can meet on Monday at 10. 30 am at Robinson's Malate (she lives in the area)

She agreed, and told me to "just text me on the Sunday". I dutifully texted on Sunday evening and she said "Okee. See you at 10. 30 am" (in our designated spot) and told me to text her when I am on the way.

On Monday morning I texted her that I was leaving home and confirmed meeting at 10. 30 and received a "Sure. See you then".

It was the EDSA People Power Commemoration Day and so the traffic was incredibly bad near my place so at 10. 15 I texted her to say "I will not be there until 11am as traffic is bad so just roam around until I arrive". I get a "sure honey. No worries".

I arrive at 10. 55 and go to the spot and tell her I am here. No response, nothing, nada. At 11. 20 I get a text "See you soon. I am coming".

She rolls up at 11. 30 as if that was perfectly OK. No "sorry I am late". I suspect that if I had been there at 10. 30 she still would have been an hour late.

If she hadn't been 5ft 7 ins and slim and sexy as hell I would have told her the meeting was off, but we immediately adjourned to Eurotel and I guess I forgot all about it after that hehehehe.