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C00901570
Here is one who added her profile on 1 Dec. She looks and sounds too good to be true.
No response from Manila, Thailand:D
Robb
TrickyRick
12-02-07, 23:58
If you guys looking for a wife be careful I had two girlfriends in Philippines through internet dating. One stayed loyal for a year then had a Filipino boyfreind while telling me she loves me hurry back etc. A least she was loyal for a yr. The next was one who I might have married, I found out she already was. How did I know these thing because my best friend lives in Philippines and found out for me you need a spy boys.
I hate it when the fake women look better than the real women. I need more practice in spotting them Amavida.
Oh! you spoiled my fun! hehehehe :)
The one on the right is a male believe it or not... :)
Happy mongering
Amavida
Been There
12-03-07, 03:37
First g'day guys, great forum here thanks Russell. Just giving you all the heads up that there are girls sending a new virus. Funny ust scandal. Avi. Exe. Via YM. I have notified the site but just letting everyone know not to accept that file, its apparently a nasty one.
I have been chatting with some dozens of girls from DIA and imho it is mostly a complete waste of time. U'd have much better luck just going into an internet cafe there and chatting to one of the many women there! LOL It's all about time and effort required. If you are in person it will click or not and you can move on. Some of these girls on DIA have consumed some hours of my time only to announce that they need a laptop or that they gotta have the ring before they have a physical relationship. This after I have made it clear in my profile and on YM that I am not looking for commitment! So happy hunting guys, once again thanks for this great forum to share information. I have spent about 3 years living and traveling in various parts of the Philippines while living in asia but of course alot of my info is already dated so great to see the updated info here. Ok hope I can contribute in some small way here, greetings to all!
BT
Wicked Roger
12-03-07, 12:12
First g'day guys, great forum here thanks Russell. Just giving you all the heads up that there are girls sending a new virus. Funny ust scandal. Avi. Exe. Via YM. I have notified the site but just letting everyone know not to accept that file, its apparently a nasty one.
BT
This is an ongoing problem but really the issue is the girl's PC and the fact that many are infected (the PCs that is gents !) and many do not have virus protection..:(
I tell them this and some listen to the advice and some even try to get protection as it is a real pain receiving the messages.
I learned this the hard way. Last year I got a YM from a bargirl and the message was check out my new pictures, with a link. I looked at the link and it a yahoo GeoCities link, so I thought that I could trust it. NOT! It was a Trojan and it hacked my yahoo email password and I couldn't get it reset. I lost 8 years of emails, hundreds of email addresses and on top of that, I used that email for all my accounts that send passwords. It took me a week to change everything, but thank god, I didn't lose anything in any accounts. I learned my lesson, I now run live protection amd it has stopped at least 2 attacks on my computer. It is well worth $40 a year.
Always use protection:D
Robb
Been There
12-03-07, 22:05
Yep, some simple precautions can save you in the long run. 'spybot search and destroy' will remove most trojans and it is free (btw including the one I mentioned in my previous post) Get AVG free anti-virus and a decent firewall (I use zone alarm free) and I have. Touch wood. Rarely had a problem and if I have had one then it has been easily remedied. I am a newbie to YM but I run a server on IRC and have for many years. I think most of the problems people have are either because they have d/l an. Exe file. Which unless from an extremely reliable source is sheer madness!. Or having inadequate protection to prevent java or active script placing a trojan on your machine. I strongly recommend a shift to an alternate browser than explorer. I use mozilla and it is far superior both in functionality and security. Sorry if this is a little off topic but it is relevant in the sense that it seems the chat programs are the latest targets for virus distribution and perhaps a bit of info on security could prevent some of you guys falling victim. As you point out Robbaf the consequences can be a real PITA! I haven't checked out the 'Live Protection' m8 but I am arriving in Philippines in less than a month and I will ditch YM before then. When I get there the first places I will check out are the internet cafes. I fancy my chances much better in person from my experiences so far online.
If you guys looking for a wife be careful I had two girlfriends in Philippines through internet dating. One stayed loyal for a year then had a Filipino boyfreind while telling me she loves me hurry back etc. A least she was loyal for a yr. The next was one who I might have married, I found out she already was. How did I know these thing because my best friend lives in Philippines and found out for me you need a spy boys.
Tricky
I currently doing a married gal out of hong kong. I prefer MILF. Not seeking a wife, already have one, just seeking some fun and loving. Actually married one are less sticky and are just as hot. Some even have more money than you. Im living a bit dangerously, but i usually require atleast two good pics of their husband/bf, just in case the dude finds out. I just need to look at what he looks like, just incase he attempts to stalk me.
I usually like to send them home with some of my juices... One of them came back and told me that her hubby likes her so horny... she taste great being so hot and wet...
just my pov.
happy hunting..
HornyGeorge
12-04-07, 00:43
I had good luck with DIA, although I did notice an increase in SPAM after I began using it.
I have gotten those bogus messages claiming link to pictures but NEVER click on ANY link unless I am CERTAIN it is from a trusted source.
My friend met a couple nice ones from Zamboanga so I must differ on that point. I believe that the highest incidence of scammers is in Manila, Makati and Angeles (and avoid the CB and DIA girls in those areas for that reason).
Finally, for BB: No way you can walk to town from the dive center at Punta Ballo (Sipalay). It is quite isolated. If you want easy access to a town I'd suggest Puerto Galera or maybe Moalboal, Cebu.
No reason you could not bring two girls out there (I did without complaint)
C00901570
Here is one who added her profile on 1 Dec. She looks and sounds too good to be true.
No response from Manila, Thailand:D
RobbThe chick on the picture is Ileana cruz - a popular South Indian actress from Goa, India.
If it sounds too good to be true its.
I have gotten those bogus messages claiming link to pictures but NEVER click on ANY link unless I am CERTAIN it is from a trusted source.
I have had zip files sent to me by trusted friends without their knowledge, these trojans simply access there address book and start senting itself to everyone on there contact list.
Why would any girl want to send a virus to the hands that feeds them. I have been lucky, my computer has been able to detect these viruses and stop them from doing any damage.
Best free anti-virus download I ever made.
If you guys looking for a wife be careful I had two girlfriends in Philippines through internet dating. One stayed loyal for a year then had a Filipino boyfreind while telling me she loves me hurry back etc. A least she was loyal for a yr. The next was one who I might have married, I found out she already was. How did I know these thing because my best friend lives in Philippines and found out for me you need a spy boys.
No offense, but to leave a girl that you want to marry/love in the Philippines for a year, without you, is asking for trouble. I am not saying all girls are bad, but they are human and if someone comes along and it has been a year since you were there, they wonder in their mind if you are really coming back.
I met this girl at LA Cafe. She came in and sat by herself and didn't talk to anyone for over 1 1/2 hours. She looked scared and out of place. I finally got her to smile by teasing her and asked her if she wanted a drink. After another hour I asked her if she wanted to go with me and she said yes and I asked her how much and she said 1000P. Right then I knew that she didn’t really know the game.
I took her back to my hotel, the Diamond, and when she saw the suite she started to get excited. She ran to the sofa and laid down and said can I stay here all night. We watched a movie and then I said it time for bed. She started to cry and told me that she knew why girls went to LA Café, but she didn’t really want to go there and do that, but she needed money. Long story short, she told me that her friend had hooked her up with a visitor 7 months ago and she went on a three day trip with her friend and the guys. The guy fell in love with her and had been sending her money for 7 months (after three days together). He was supporting her so she could go to school and 2 months ago he wrote and told her sorry that he couldn’t keep supporting her. So, when her saving ran out, she went to LA.
I told her that it was okay, I would never force her to do anything and that she could sleep there without worry. I showered and then she went to shower. When she came out of the shower all she had on was the hotel robe. She got into bed and just laid there for about 15 minutes. Then very softly she came over kissed me and laid in my arms. It didn’t take 5 minutes and she opened her robe and proceeded to be the aggressor. It turned out to be one of the best that I had in the Philippines.
The girl in the picture may not be a hardcore but IMHO is really ugly. No wonder she was sitting in the corner.
While beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would not even glance at this girl twice whether she is a newbie or not. This is just my opinion. No flame please.
Given the choices of girls in LA cafe there are some real gems to be had. Many girls who are living in the surrounding provinces come once in a while for some extra cash. There are some housewives who come during the day also. Really good looking young girls come at night only.
But believe me all the girls know the game and play well. As for her asking 1000 Pesos for ST, that is the going rate for ugly girls. In fact is lucky to get any business at all. They all have stories to tell if you believe them. Do not fall for that.
Just a friendly advice.
One needs to be incredibly careful about opening up attachments such as photos and/or zip files. Most antivirus programs and webmail services such as Yahoo or Hotmail have the capability of scanning the file before opening it.
Never open an EXE file sent to you via email. Your just asking for trouble. I've found that using the following three programs together is very effective in greatly reducing your risk.
Avast Antivirus (free)
Zone Alarm Firewall (free)
SuperAntiSpyware (free)
Safe surfing!
Been There
12-05-07, 00:11
I have read some of the comments regarding the LA Cafe. This is on the site of the old Rosie's Diner is it? Last time I was in Ermita it looked like Beirut. Thanks to Herr Lim! Good to see something rising from the ashes or do I have the location wrong? A security update on YM. I have just reinstalled 'snoop free' which identifies keyloggers and attempts at 'screen capture' by remote sources. It reported an illegal keylogger in YM which it blocked of course. I am beginning to think this YM has more holes than a swiss cheese. Be careful guys. You may lose more than your virginity! The link to snoop free is: www.snoopfree.com/PrivacyShield. Htm and as the name suggests it is free too. I have been using YM the past two days since and had no functionality problems but each time I start it Snoop Free just informs me that the keylogger has been jammed.
As to why a girl would send a virus well, I had just told her. In Tagalog. That I was aware of her game and had no intention of playing it! I think the shock of my Tagalog and the realisation that she was wasting her precious internet time on a longer term scam was enough motivation. She realised I was no longer a canditate to feed her anything. Even the salami with the special sauce! anyway good to be a part of this forum, shields up guys!
I think the girl is lovely. That was good hunting in the LA Cafe.
The girl in the picture may not be a hardcore but IMHO is really ugly. No wonder she was sitting in the corner.
While beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would not even glance at this girl twice whether she is a newbie or not. This is just my opinion. No flame please.
Given the choices of girls in LA cafe there are some real gems to be had. Many girls who are living in the surrounding provinces come once in a while for some extra cash. There are some housewives who come during the day also. Really good looking young girls come at night only.
But believe me all the girls know the game and play well. As for her asking 1000 Pesos for ST, that is the going rate for ugly girls. In fact is lucky to get any business at all. They all have stories to tell if you believe them. Do not fall for that.
Just a friendly advice.
The girl in the picture may not be a hardcore but IMHO is really ugly. No wonder she was sitting in the corner.
While beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would not even glance at this girl twice whether she is a newbie or not. This is just my opinion. No flame please.
Given the choices of girls in LA cafe there are some real gems to be had. Many girls who are living in the surrounding provinces come once in a while for some extra cash. There are some housewives who come during the day also. Really good looking young girls come at night only.
But believe me all the girls know the game and play well. As for her asking 1000 Pesos for ST, that is the going rate for ugly girls. In fact is lucky to get any business at all. They all have stories to tell if you believe them. Do not fall for that. Just a friendly advice.I am not trying to start a war, but if you don't think she is pretty, who cares???? My point of her sitting in corner was more that I have a few girls in LA Cafe jump on me when I enter, or you can watch them running to every new guy who enters. I have had a lot of 9 or 10's, but they were starfish. After being in the Philiipines for 7 months, I am looking for something different. Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. BTW, I checked the last year and I saw no photo posts by you, just a lot advice.
Robb
One needs to be incredibly careful about opening up attachments such as photos and/or zip files. Most antivirus programs and webmail services such as Yahoo or Hotmail have the capability of scanning the file before opening it.
Never open an EXE file sent to you via email. Your just asking for trouble. I've found that using the following three programs together is very effective in greatly reducing your risk.
Avast Antivirus (free)
Zone Alarm Firewall (free)
SuperAntiSpyware (free)
Safe surfing!
Or just buy a Mac & your days of reinstalling again & again &
again & again over.
Happy mongering
Amavida
Bilbo Baggins
12-05-07, 11:05
Finally, for BB: No way you can walk to town from the dive center at Punta Ballo (Sipalay). It is quite isolated. If you want easy access to a town I'd suggest Puerto Galera or maybe Moalboal, Cebu.
No reason you could not bring two girls out there (I did without complaint)Thanks Hg I was going to do self catering and there is no fridge in the place I'm renting. Are you stuck with the restaurants on the beach as the only places for food or can you buy your own food and cook it there? I am going with a lady and her friends I met on CB will hang around Bacolod first just to be sure it will work then go down and do some scuba diving.
I just bought a Mac still trying to figure out how to use it.
I prefer girls with good attitude myself the others are just for eye candy.
I told her that it was okay, I would never force her to do anything and that she could sleep there without worry. It turned out to be one of the best that I had in the Philippines.
Great post and pics! Good things come to those who wait.
Chivalry is alive and well in the Philippines!
THis one has potential:
C00814738
HornyGeorge
12-06-07, 00:37
Bb: Sounds like you have the right idea to try them out in Bacolod before getting to the bundok. Then again, if they really turn out poorly Bacolod has an active scene too and I am sure you could find suitable companions there too.
RobAF: you are wise to ignore the inevitable "that girl is ugly" type posts. Being a gentleman has its rewards, and I applaud your ethics.
Bilbo Baggins
12-06-07, 03:09
THis one has potential:
C00814738I'm out of her age bracket I wonder if she would compromise her standards. You should have read the fine print "i can do some things beyond human capacity.."
I want a mentally healthy one then at least one of us would be sane
Hg I noticed a lot of beauties there
Been There
12-06-07, 11:55
Ditto Hornygeorge, I congratulate you Rob. People who see BS everywhere are generally creating at least half of it themselves. And yes! Who gives a f*** Sammon whether you think she is attractive. It contributes nothing to the forum unless of course you are contributing photos and saying "now this is hot"! I haven't followed the thread and I am short of time here but to the person who complained about feminine hygiene in the Philippines. That IS total bullshit. I have had relationships with alot of pinay in 3 years there. Bargirls and GF's. I am reasonably fluent in Tagalog. Pinay are amongst the most hygiene and cleanliness orientated women I have met but no they are not anally retentive enough to require a shower between 'sessions' To the mods. Puerile stuff that is just crap should be flagged as such. The guy posting that prolly doesnt know the meaning of deodorant himself!
Merry xmas to all,
please dont send money to the Philippines to you lovely camgurl etc etc etc.
US $ is 41, Euro is 60 to the pesos.... :(
So , please.... :D
Happy hunting
Blink
C00328905
4 kids! Now, I love kids, but what is going thru a guys mind to marry this woman? With all the lovely ladies at Cherry blsm, you would think he'd find one with less baggage.
This girl is really confused, she thinks she is Korean:D
C00889360
Wow, perfect English. Any ideas about this one?
X
Wicked Roger
12-10-07, 19:20
C00889360
Wow, perfect English. Any ideas about this one?
X
Always a bit suss when the English is better than mine...and generally I find that the picture is not what it seems..
C00889360Wow, perfect English. Any ideas about this one?
X
I have no idea, but when she says, "I don`t want to exchange mindless chitchat about absolutely nothing, although that has its place and time." Does that mean if I text her, that she will not text me, "Did you eat your dinner...breakfast...lunch?":D
Robbaf, what are you complaining about!? "Did you eat your dinner?" is a complete sentence and doesn't include any text-style abbreviations. You should consider yourself lucky.
The first time I got a phone in the Philippines, a lady kept calling and then would hang up before I could answer...8-10 times that first day. I quickly grew to dislike her. Of course now I realize that was a cue for me to call her.
As for C00889360, I sent her an ambigiouis message, but mentioned I would soon be in the Philippines. Here quick response was also in flawless English, but otherwise was pretty typical. She included her email, phone and a hint that she has a problem.
X Man
I have no idea, but when she says, "I don`t want to exchange mindless chitchat about absolutely nothing, although that has its place and time." Does that mean if I text her, that she will not text me, "Did you eat your dinner...breakfast...lunch?":D
HornyGeorge
12-12-07, 22:29
Been There: I agree with you. OptimusPrime is the guy, but it is in the Angeles thread whee he opines how filthy and diseased filipinas are, not on this one.
About poor English, I give the bargirls a mulligan as English is not their first language (unlike many on here who cannot write coherent sentences even though it is their primary language).
One must guard against allowing the truncated style of chat used on YM and on cam sites to permeate ones everyday usage.
HG, I agree with you 100%.
One problem I have in chat is that I'm not quite sure if it is a language problem or a "busy" problem. I can type pretty fast and some of the women who have professions can keep up with me.
But those with are apparently less educated and / or from a place with slow connections lead me to speculate. I'm pretty sure that at least some of them are chatting with several people, or worse they are only chatting with me and have nothing to say, nor ask.
Needless to say, this has nothing (or everything) to do with how you will find them if you meet face to face. Actually, the ones who turn out to be nitwits, are usually the ones who provide the most opportunities...both sexually and intellectually. You can't properly read a book by its cover...the old cliche..with my amendment.
Been There: I agree with you. OptimusPrime is the guy, but it is in the Angeles thread whee he opines how filthy and diseased filipinas are, not on this one.
About poor English, I give the bargirls a mulligan as English is not their first language (unlike many on here who cannot write coherent sentences even though it is their primary language).
One must guard against allowing the truncated style of chat used on YM and on cam sites to permeate ones everyday usage.
Wicked Roger
12-16-07, 15:18
HG, I agree with you 100%.
But those with are apparently less educated and / or from a place with slow connections lead me to speculate. I'm pretty sure that at least some of them are chatting with several people, or worse they are only chatting with me and have nothing to say, nor ask.
You can't properly read a book by its cover...the old cliche..with my amendment.
X Man
Look at their YM chat box when you are chatting and sometimes you see it says "...is typing a message.." and if you do not get it then a good chance she is chatting with another - so I ask her.
Also I always cam with the girl so then I watch the eyes as well. Can be wrong but invariably this works
Re the book and cover - agree. Met an ACM (and CB) girl last time, not the greatest of chat mates but very tasty in the sack and we had fun while her other ACM friend did YM chat before she also joined in :):)
Bilbo Baggins
12-16-07, 15:33
X Man
Look at their YM chat box when you are chatting and sometimes you see it says "...is typing a message.." and if you do not get it then a good chance she is chatting with another - so I ask her.
:):)Its not always a reliable indicator sometimes they just stop typing to think of something or read what you said and maybe delete their answer for a newer one. All that indicates is that she is typing at that moment doesnt tell you she is sending to anyone. You have to rely on other information to confirm your suspicions.
Wicked Roger
12-18-07, 14:18
This one is really serious.....not sure what to make of this, convent, submissive yes but...
Bilbo Baggins
12-18-07, 16:09
This one is really serious.....not sure what to make of this, convent, submissive yes but...The story and the pictures don't go together she is too well dressed to have gone through those experiences. She has model looks, grooming and makeup, ear rings etc. My feeling is someone is jerking a chain maybe some school kids having fun. Anyone checked her out? I am still debating whether to sign up again.
Wicked Roger
12-18-07, 18:06
The story and the pictures don't go together she is too well dressed to have gone through those experiences. She has model looks, grooming and makeup, ear rings etc. My feeling is someone is jerking a chain maybe some school kids having fun. Anyone checked her out? I am still debating whether to sign up again.
Well I sent her a 'smile' and see what comes back but I insist on a webcam and that sometimes sorts them out especially if it is the uncle who is actually the person on the end and is trying a scam..but its fun a times so will let you know.
Agree the pictures and story do not match but then quite a few others don't either
As for C00889360, I sent her an ambigiouis message, but mentioned I would soon be in the Philippines. Here quick response was also in flawless English, but otherwise was pretty typical. She included her email, phone and a hint that she has a problem.
X ManI sent her a smile, and she immediately gave me her ym, phone #, email all in perfect English. She seems very verbose.
You think she is worth seeing?
I I have had a lot of 9 or 10's, but they were starfish. After being in the Philiipines for 7 months, I am looking for something different.
RobbWhat's a "starfish"?
IMHO the best looking girls are not working girls. They are usually found in the mall or colleges.
This one is really serious.....not sure what to make of this, convent, submissive yes but...Her story sounds like a bad novel. No way is that true. Chopped up relatives? She's playing to Westerner's ideas of terrorism.
Gonzofiend
12-22-07, 06:27
What's a "starfish"?
IMHO the best looking girls are not working girls. They are usually found in the mall or colleges.A "Starfish" is a girl who provides a bad sexual experience, such as "just laying there", "not really into it", and "going through the motions." It is usually the really attractive ones who are like that, since they can get bar fined on their looks alone. At least that is what I've always taken it to mean.
Hope I helped you.
Gonzo
Frequent Flier
12-27-07, 08:24
Been busy and have not logged on the CB in awhile. Yet look who just sent me a message just 5 hours earlier.C00889360
Now read the message she (or he or whatever and whoever is doing this scam) sent me.
"Hi there, this is Cici, from China, I just posted my profile to AFF, I am interested in knowing you more after read your profile, you are a kind person, I am looking for my soul mate, I am a kind and family tradition woman, with good personality, I am very sincere with communication, please write back if you find my profile is fascinated to you. Take care. Cici "
For those that do not know "AFF" stands for Adult friend Finder. It is a mostly 99 percent fake web site. Meaning 99% of the ads posted there are fake, especially the ads posted for the USA.
Not sure if I should respond and play a game or not. Do not really have the time.
FF
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Frequent Flier!
Do you get out to Asia much anymore? Hope you're well, let's catch up offline.
Frequent Flier
12-28-07, 07:57
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Frequent Flier!
Do you get out to Asia much anymore? Hope you're well, let's catch up offline.
Hey Intransit,
Still working on my new business venture, which has kept me out of SE Asia for way too long and I am sure my absence is felt by the Filipino economy. I'm guessing a 3% GNP reduction in The Philippines from my trips to the PI plus money sent from the Filipinas in Hong Kong back to The Philippines. My hard earned dollars rolled over into their hard earned dollars being sent back to the Philippines so their family can do nothing all day.
See you in private chat.
FF
Been busy and have not logged on the CB in awhile. Yet look who just sent me a message just 5 hours earlier.C00889360
Now read the message she (or he or whatever and whoever is doing this scam) sent me.
"Hi there, this is Cici, from China, I just posted my profile to AFF, I am interested in knowing you more after read your profile, you are a kind person, I am looking for my soul mate, I am a kind and family tradition woman, with good personality, I am very sincere with communication, please write back if you find my profile is fascinated to you. Take care. Cici "
FFAs for C00889360
I just checked her profile it says her name is Mitch and she lives in Davao. Nothing about being Chinese there.
Frequent Flier
12-30-07, 11:21
As for C00889360
I just checked her profile it says her name is Mitch and she lives in Davao. Nothing about being Chinese there.
I was doing some research from another post earlier and I guess my copy did not copy properly before I pasted...if you know what I mean.
Here is the profile from the girl in China who sent me a message and mentioned she was a member of AFF.
C00875229
If she is real then she also posts on AFF in China I guess. If there is anyone who does AFF in China they may be able to get some good action here. I know I have read some post in the China section where a guy uses AFF to some success.
Thanks for the heads up Styles12
FF
Longhorn2000
01-05-08, 06:28
Xman and others,
Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.
I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.
Thanks for any advice!
Longhorn,
Well, the ones who work or have curfews are best because they have to leave. Then just ignore their messages the next morning ...tell them you left the room without your phone or something. You don't need a very convincing white lie - the idea is to save face. Very important when dealing with Asians.
Another I use is "I have to meet a friend. " They will immediatel assume it is a woman...then you can get all indignant and say it is your "American friend who is married to a Filipina". Now, I'm a terrible liar. Fortunately, I have met some of the ISG people who post here and so I can honestly say I have "friends..." who happen to not be Filipina.
*** Caution ...the walls talk / keep your fibs to a minimum to avoid unwanted drama....
1) Just last week spent time with a real sweety in Davao. I even went to Samal island and met her family --- daddy used a machete to cut up a coconut for me. Two days later, I'm walking down a street in downtown Davao (my girl was at work) and who do I run into but...DADDY! Luckily I wasn't with another girl.
2) Last year..also in Davao. I tell a girl I will go boating with a friend (a fib). Late in the day I get a text from the girl, "My friend said she say you on abc street." Huh? Oh, yea, just got back from the boating trip... Again, Luckily I wasn't with another girl.
3) An old flame from Cebu just sent me an email saying...."I saw you in the mall on Friday..you walked right past me."
4) The cute girl (I had been flirting / passed her my phone number a few days earlier) at the front desk of the hotel mentions, "Oh, I saw you at xxxx yesterday." In this case, I was with a woman.
None of these events caused me any grief, but could have if circumstances had been slightly different.
X Man
Xman and others,
Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.
I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.
Thanks for any advice!
Rubber Nursey
01-06-08, 07:52
Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other.
Might I suggest the truth? Seriously, I don't know why you guys insist on digging your own graves all the time!
Tell each woman that you think she's beautiful, enjoy her company, blah, blah, blah, say that you fully intend to spoil her, take her places, buy her gifts and take her to heaven in the bedroom (or whatever) ...but make it clear that you are only here for a short time and that she is not going to be the only woman you're giving your attention to. Tell them straight out that you've been talking to others online and that you've promised to hook up with each of them. It's not a nice thing to be told, but it's MUCH nicer than finding out the bloke you're sleeping with has duped you and made you look like a complete idiot.
Even a half-truth is better than a complete lie. For example, telling each woman that you've started seeing someone else, but you still 'really like' her as well and could today's rendezvous be our little secret? That way if you get caught with another woman, she'll think it's your girlfriend and (hopefully!) keep quiet.
The best lies are those which only slightly deviate from the truth - and they also need a decent backup plan, which yours doesn't have. What are you going to say when your girl asks to come with you to visit your 'friends relatives'? Instead of being jealous and sad that you're with another woman, she's gonna be left feeling hurt and ashamed that (in her mind) you think she's too uneducated/ugly/uncouth/whatever to introduce her to your friends.
The truth is uncomfortable, but ultimately it will make things easier for all concerned.
Rubber Nursey
01-06-08, 07:59
PS. Telling the truth in this situation may also lead to you receiving 10 times better sex. Women are naturally competitive creatures. If each girl knows that you're intending to see other women, they will compete for your attention...each one will try to make it so good that you won't want to move on to the next one.
RN "digging graves"???? " "suggesting the truth"?
Well, RN has some good ideas about "white lies", "fibs", and other "simplifications". I find it's better to tell these "truths" only after being asked....
The best scenario is to always tell the *** half / truth ...even if it is "Yes, I have 99 chat friends in Cebu....but you're my favorite...".
X
Might I suggest the truth? Seriously, I don't know why you guys insist on digging your own graves all the time!
Tell each woman that you think she's beautiful, enjoy her company, blah, blah, blah, say that you fully intend to spoil her, take her places, buy her gifts and take her to heaven in the bedroom (or whatever) ...but make it clear that you are only here for a short time and that she is not going to be the only woman you're giving your attention to. Tell them straight out that you've been talking to others online and that you've promised to hook up with each of them. It's not a nice thing to be told, but it's MUCH nicer than finding out the bloke you're sleeping with has duped you and made you look like a complete idiot.
Even a half-truth is better than a complete lie. For example, telling each woman that you've started seeing someone else, but you still 'really like' her as well and could today's rendezvous be our little secret? That way if you get caught with another woman, she'll think it's your girlfriend and (hopefully!) keep quiet.
The best lies are those which only slightly deviate from the truth - and they also need a decent backup plan, which yours doesn't have. What are you going to say when your girl asks to come with you to visit your 'friends relatives'? Instead of being jealous and sad that you're with another woman, she's gonna be left feeling hurt and ashamed that (in her mind) you think she's too uneducated/ugly/uncouth/whatever to introduce her to your friends.
The truth is uncomfortable, but ultimately it will make things easier for all concerned.
When I stayed nearly two months in Manila awhile back, I was always up front with the non-p4p filipinas I met that I was meeting other girls. I was deliberately vague about when and where I was meeting others, but they definitely knew I was meeting them. Of course, they are always curious to find out who you met and if you have a gf yet. You can answer those questions vaguely as well. Those who didn't want to deal with my butterfly ways left quickly or chose not to meet me in the first place. The rest were pretty good. The virgins were left alone as I'm not into popping cherries. A few of them fell in love, but I reminded them of what I had said at the beginning so I did not run into any problems. Word of warning: they are very jealous; it can come out when you are getting texts from other girls while one is with you. You should boot them straightaway if it becomes a problem. Finally, it helps that Manila is a big city.
Towelboy2010
01-07-08, 00:25
There was some good stuff in the last few threads. In my younger days of working with bands, my best friend Randy taught me to always make the "story" as close to the truth as possible. Experience has taught me that Randy and Rubber Nursery are right. At least for me, because I am a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor liar.
But I digress. I am here today to ask about the Filipina culture and mentality. Though I am a monger, I also visit the Philippines in search of a wife. Over the last 15 months I met a number of women through Filipina Heart. In the 3 instances that culminated in a visit, the women insisted that I come to see them and only them. At the time I was ok with that, because each time I thought I was coming to see Miss Right and that we would happily sail off into the sunset. Oh how naive. BUT, now after 3 failures, I can no longer “afford” to follow that rationale. “Afford” includes the time and the emotional stress as well as the monetary burden.
Through a series of events, one of my prospects introduced me to her cousin who is living in CA and was married to an American last April. This girl, Virgie, has offered to introduce me to some of her friends who she thinks fit what I am looking for. She has also insisted that I see several girls on 1 trip and hopefully will find someone compatible after we meet. There are 3 friends of hers I am meeting in March. What I learned from Virgies approach is because it was Virgie’s idea, her friends are willing to meet me – know I am meeting others - even though one told me she has turned down guys like this before because she “doesn’t want to feel like a contestant in a beauty pageant” and that “it is demeaning”.
From a purely Western point of view, I think it is outrageous to make such demands. I am traveling half-way around the world, entirely at my time and expense, meeting on their doorstep, and if we aren’t compatible..... their life goes on as usual, while I am the big loser with no other alternative but to come home and maybe try again later. BUT when you suggest that you think it is outrageous, they just don’t get it. So when Chelle recently suggested the same thing – “come just to see me” – I asked her what guarantees she will give me in advance that she will marry me. Duhhhhhh was basically her answer.
Can someone shed some light on the thought process these girls are using? Is it low self-esteem? Wouldn’t the opportunity of possibly meeting Mr. Right be compelling enough? Is the concept of "no risk – no reward" a foreign one?
BTW I am set to make my last trip to Manila in March. I have 7 days and at present there are 12 girls on my “dance” card.
I guess I’ve rambled on enough for now. Enjoy and Happy Trails.
Thanks,
Bob
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Frequent Flier
01-07-08, 02:07
Xman and others,
Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.
I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.
Thanks for any advice!
The Nurse gives excellent advice for another reason. It may become difficult to remember the story you told. That is the problem with a lie. The truth is placed in the memory banks in a different way than a made up story. That is why it is easier for police to catch criminals years later. They cannot remember the intricate story they fabricated, so usually try to come up with the same story and it doesn't ring true to the original story. All they had to do was say "I have forgotten, it was so long ago."
Then if you are a drinker and drinking to the point that it affects your memory you have even more difficulty remembering the story you told.
For me I have always had business to handle while in Asia. So I employ the half truth the nurse talks about. I say I have business to handle either in another city in the Philippines or in Hong Kong. I am usually in a big city so I do not worry about being seen. I also will change hotels.
Never been questioned or had a text message that I was seen. If I did get the "my friend saw you" text message I would just say it wasn't me. Must have been a westerner that looked like me. If she said her friend was sure it was me I would say well did she talk to this guy? Why not? If it was me she should have said hi? Why would she not say hi to me? Because she wasn't sure it was me... that is why. I am not there, it could not have been me.
As a good friend of mine once told me deny deny deny. Even if they have a picture of you..you say " I admit it looks like me but it simply isn't me.
The business story leaves you with much more room to tell your story. The other party did not show up...showed up late...changed the meeting time...was useless and not a good business person to deal with. The meeting went well and we have another meeting scheduled....I could not text you back because I was in a meeting or having dinner with the person I had the business meeting with. I have even went out at night on my own saying that I was going to have a business dinner meeting.
You will receive lots of request for employment, but you just say you do not mix business with friends. It is not good for business.
Again easier for me as I am there for business most of the time and taking a break when I am meeting girls.
Also I was not promising relationships with girls. I had ongoing relationships where I would see the same girl or girls during my visits, but not anything that was going to escalate to a serious relationship. Not that they would not have liked this and if they knew the level of my mongering some serious jealousy would have erupted. So I did my story telling.
FF
Frequent Flier
01-07-08, 03:53
she “doesn’t want to feel like a contestant in a beauty pageant” and that “it is demeaning”.
You should ask her what she is looking for in a man? Is it nothing? Does she have no criteria? If you choose her she will agree to marry you no questions asked. Will she blind fold herself and just listen to you and if she likes your voice and your story she will marry you? Is she comparing your bank account to other bank accounts of guys that may support her family better? If you have no job she is going to marry you and accept you into her family to live in the Philippines with her family till death do you part?
Point is we all have some criteria we are using in picking a mate. Some of this criteria may seem shallow and if so the person may pay for being shallow later in life by choosing an incompatible mate.
When a girl gives you this story I think they have something to hide. By the way, many lie about their age and if they have children. When they insist that they be the only one you meet and try to monopolize all your time I would be more worried about some scam they are looking to run on you than if you are losing a potential future mate.
FF
This thread has been quiet lately.
I hope FF has given TB (towelboy) something to think about...and of course TB has given any newbies something to think about. Sometimes things seem so obvious that I never think to mention it.
So, here it is again...
If you are going to Philippines to meet chat friends, MEET AS MANY AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN!
I'm pretty sure I have a completely different strategy than TB, so he may very well have different results...but this is what I consistently find with chat friends (I use Cherry blossom, but may try something different next time.)
1) My first choices usually aren't as interesting as I expected. On the last visit, Ms. #1 replied to my text with "who are you?". Yes, I had included my name.... She wasn't even in the city I thought she was in. Duh.
2) Rarely will the woman be as good looking as the pictures. And dark or blurry cam is a warning sign too. Bad comlplexions don't show up on cam.
3) Although I never use the marriage word and am very up front about this being a "friend" meeting, I get the stinky on my dinky about 40% of the time at the first meeting. As for the other 60%, in most cases I just didn't pursue things. (note: there were a few that were oh so fine...and I pursued...and they still eluded me.)
As for point 3, someone once asked me if it was possible to bed the penpal / chat types, so I did some calculation and that's what I came up with. I hope I don't sound like a high school boy bragging about conquests. I also don't want to give some illusion about the women being "sluts". That's not the vibe I get.
It's more like some exotic guy comes to town, he takes her to places she never knew existed (or could never afford), his hotel costs more than she earns in a month, the room is so clean...hot shower...nice television with cable....
For the average Filipina there is going to be some sensory overload here. And, well, at the same time you are asking her to teach you some words, being sweet, touching her, holding her hand... Has my point been made?
To paraphrase my friend Mahku: A nice view ...opens legs.
Back to towelboy, stop talking marriage with these women. Just meet (Freudian slip, I first typed "meat") them and pursue them in some romantic way. Much better to say, "I came her for a holiday, to go to the beach, but I met you and fell in love....it's my destiny....marry me!" Talking marriage online with someone you never met sounds so lame, so desperate. No wonder they give you the "duh".
**** For example...one lady, not nearly as cute as her CB profile, but cute enough, friendly...first date is in the Fuente Osmena Circle to see the Christmas tree. I arrive late having had a few beers at Silver Dollar and tell the half-truth, "I was with friends...sorry to be late." (Friend was a bikini clad bar girl who was telling me she licks pussy, sucks black dick, ...and is always eager to please her customer...)
Back to my CB date, a factory worker, traveled over two hours to meet me, not native to Cebu...she had brought an annoying chubby friend who did the interrogation routine. I eventually told her I was tired of the interrogation. (I fully expected to be back at Silver Dollar before the night was over.)
Chubby sort of got the message and then did her interrogation in Visayan to my date, and my date translated... I went along with this for a while and finally confronted chubby once again... in a polite, joking way of course.
Well, we got something to eat on the rooftop of Holiday Plaza (nice view) and then down to my room to relax. Much to my surprise, chubby had to go. They both lived about two hours out of town my jeepney / maybe 45 min by taxi, and both had to work the next morning. I gave chubby taxi fare...
(Note to newbies: some out of town girls will take some convoluted jeepney route or bus route to meet you...and you can expect them to be late....very late.... I've tried to tell them to take a taxi as I would pay for it, but they are reluctant if they have never met you, which is understandable. No matter how bad the date goes, pay for their transportation. If the date goes well, give them enough to come back by taxi...plus some. If they say it is too much, make up some half-truth...."use it for your phone to text me..."
So, chubby leaves and after the intial hugs and kisses she declared that her jeans are wet. Surprised, I thought she had spilled something. Hmm, no drinks in sight. I thought I had misheard -- my little brain had taken over and things seemed foggy. Back to kissing and hugging and she says the same thing. Huh? I tuck my hand into her crotch and sure enough....some very wet jeans.
"Take them off".
She did.
6 am wake up so she could get to work the next morning.
X Man
Longhorn2000
01-26-08, 02:43
Just returned from my Cherry trip, and let me say that X-Man is dead on correct once again. I only had three chat friends lined up, so there was not much room for error. Mission accomplished with girl # 1, and I was quite satisfied. Girl #2 promised lots of sex upon my arrival, and was then chaperoned by her parents on our first two dates. There should not have been a second date, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt, which resulted in nothing but wasted time. And I was not attracted to girl # 3. Next trip, I plan to have a minimum of ten on the dance card.
It's more like some exotic guy comes to town, he takes her to places she never knew existed (or could never afford), his hotel costs more than she earns in a month, the room is so clean...hot shower...nice television with cable....
....and her friends and family will never know who, where and when!
Nice report X Man!
Hi to all,
recently met one of my chatroomscontacts. I met her before and we had 2 nice nights together. SHe told me she is my gf now, I agreed, cause thats the game.
Back home I send her some money to built up some business for me, should have seen it, of course a lot or excuses why it didnt worked.
Now that I live in PI, I met her again, just to get some free bangs for the money I spend before...well, I met her again and she put on some wheight, my spidey senses went on alert. In my hotel room she told me its ok to screw her without condom, which wasnt ok to her when we met first time. My spidey senses went on higher alert.
I got suspicious. Next morning I send her shopping and told her to get her things also. She refused, but took the shopping money to check out sm clark with her friend.
Went to the frontdesk with her bag and told them that my gf will pick it up, if she will ask about me, just tell her I changed hotel room. Then I txt her and told her I had to change my hotel cause they had earlier reservation and I had to leave. She of course txt me a lot of excuses, like she spend al the money for shopping and had no place to sleep, etc etc...a few miscalls then it was quiet again.
I didnt mind she was f..ing around, what I mind that she thinks how stupid I was to buy her story or not to see she got pregnant allready.
As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one.
Who knows what her plan, I know its the secound time she got pregnant but guess she will get rid of the baby, the father, well its one of some loser pinoy who will hide once he got confronted with the hospital bill and then come back if he want to see his 3 minutes-result of real love LOL....
Anyway dont get serious to chatgurls, for p4p its ok, nothing else...
Just a story I had to tell cause Im a bit bored today, hahahahahaha....
Happy hunting
Blink
My experience of Dating Site girls is different.
For me 95% of them have turned out to be better looking than their pics.
The keepers (long term gf's) have been monogamous (or as near as I can tell).
I guess if the risk reward ratio is skewed in their mind in your favour they will stay pretty loyal, if not, wellll.... bye!
I have had so many great girls to choose from in so many places its a crying shame that I have to choose only a few.
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
Wicked Roger
01-30-08, 18:49
See the link below for full report. Here for a day, got chatting with a newbie CB girl in a spare 30 minutes (focused on young, cute and Manila) and 2 hours later she is in my bed, 21 yrs old, wonderful rack and will certainly see her again on my return..
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701724&postcount=1557
HornyGeorge
01-30-08, 23:36
Interesting discussion by RN and others about how to manage seeing several girls on the same trip without offending any of them. While the general rule should be to be as honest as possible given common sense and female sensibilities, it CERTAINLY is possible to be too honest. I learned that lesson from my ex wife in whom I reposed total trust and, stupidly in retrospect, told her all sorts of stories about sexual adventures I had before meeting her. She NEVER forgot a single detail of the exploits I mentioned and used those statements against me for the rest of our marriage.
CB type girls expect you will be communicating with several other girls BEFORE you meet them. Once you bed them, they will be much less tolerant of any perceived interest in pursuing the other candidates. SOME will accept their role gracefully, but those are the ones you need to be careful about because deep down almost all Filipinas are jealous and if they never show any jealous the chance that she is really into you is slim.
790027 Busty, not as cute as the pics.
702220 Very petite, good conversation, you will have to take her shopping. I dumped her when she asked me to take her to Borocay. Does have a bikini.
The little story is acutally...very little....insignificant.
Glad you could post your story, but how on earth do you come to the conclusion that we should not involve ourselves with chat girls?
We appreciate hearing about one guys story about his fun and heartbreak with one girl. Thanks. What I don't understand is your conclusion that everyone should treat chat ladies as p4p. WHat is that? You had a bad experience. Sorry dude, I feel for you, I understand your feelings, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't revolve around me either. And 95 % of the chat ladies
Oh, you mentioned that she went to "SM clark!. So this is an Angeles City experience. Um, at the first meeting did you ever inquire about her occupation? Maybe "nursing student"? Or volunteer at the AIDS clinic?
If you find anyone in chat who lives in AC (or Pampanga), you might as well ask where she works. I personally wouldn't treat them any different regardless. I would be more wary though. And I wouldn't expect anything while I was gone...not with a pro, nor with a regular girl. Hey, you aint there. How hard is that to figure out?
"that's the game" "I sent her some money"
DUH...
X
Hi to all,
recently met one of my chatroomscontacts. I met her before and we had 2 nice nights together. SHe told me she is my gf now, I agreed, cause thats the game.
Back home I send her some money to built up some business for me, should have seen it, of course a lot or excuses why it didnt worked.
Now that I live in PI, I met her again, just to get some free bangs for the money I spend before...well, I met her again and she put on some wheight, my spidey senses went on alert. In my hotel room she told me its ok to screw her without condom, which wasnt ok to her when we met first time. My spidey senses went on higher alert.
I got suspicious. Next morning I send her shopping and told her to get her things also. She refused, but took the shopping money to check out sm clark with her friend.
Went to the frontdesk with her bag and told them that my gf will pick it up, if she will ask about me, just tell her I changed hotel room. Then I txt her and told her I had to change my hotel cause they had earlier reservation and I had to leave. She of course txt me a lot of excuses, like she spend al the money for shopping and had no place to sleep, etc etc...a few miscalls then it was quiet again.
I didnt mind she was f..ing around, what I mind that she thinks how stupid I was to buy her story or not to see she got pregnant allready.
As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one.
Who knows what her plan, I know its the secound time she got pregnant but guess she will get rid of the baby, the father, well its one of some loser pinoy who will hide once he got confronted with the hospital bill and then come back if he want to see his 3 minutes-result of real love LOL....
Anyway dont get serious to chatgurls, for p4p its ok, nothing else...
Just a story I had to tell cause Im a bit bored today, hahahahahaha....
Happy hunting
Blink
Amen to that, pinays are individuals, met some I would trust with my life, and some I wouldn't trust with yours! I lived in HK for over five years and used to fly to Pinas monthly, you got stung blink, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, get over it, but a guy who is fooled by a pinay is the same guy who is fooled back home by a lady, no different!
The little story is acutally...very little....insignificant.
Glad you could post your story, but how on earth do you come to the conclusion that we should not involve ourselves with chat girls?
We appreciate hearing about one guys story about his fun and heartbreak with one girl. Thanks. What I don't understand is your conclusion that everyone should treat chat ladies as p4p. WHat is that? You had a bad experience. Sorry dude, I feel for you, I understand your feelings, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't revolve around me either. And 95 % of the chat ladies
Oh, you mentioned that she went to "SM clark!. So this is an Angeles City experience. Um, at the first meeting did you ever inquire about her occupation? Maybe "nursing student"? Or volunteer at the AIDS clinic?
If you find anyone in chat who lives in AC (or Pampanga), you might as well ask where she works. I personally wouldn't treat them any different regardless. I would be more wary though. And I wouldn't expect anything while I was gone...not with a pro, nor with a regular girl. Hey, you aint there. How hard is that to figure out?
"that's the game" "I sent her some money"
DUH...
X
Hi to all,
ok maybe Im wrong to say not to meet them or avoid them, but my experiences aint gud at all with kampampangans, doesnt matter if they in the p4p business in bars or in sites (paid chatsites)
The point is, ANgeles city have to many foreigners and "locals" have another opinion of the "value" of money foreigners given to them.
Starts with the so called "tip", if you give 100 pesos you considered to be a cheap charlie etc etc, if you do that in a province like la union, negros or any city who doesnt see foreigners that often, value is different.
If you looking for a really serious gurl you have to go to the provinces., My gf is from La union, university student and nver ask any money, even for transportation from me..thats why she is my gf :D
Angeles city is a fun place,, you go there for fun, dont get serious...Chatgurls from paid chatsites (acm, abc ect) are all bola2, especially those from Pampanga (my experiences and I can name several gurls or many examples how much bola2 they are) All I want is to tell "heads up" to newbies..not to guys like you Xmen, ur a proffesional, hehehehe....
Ok maybe one example from a gurl I know...
she works on acm and abc, her names ar shelvygudess, acm gudess or acmgodess etc etc..She is originally from Pampanga and I know her from work (dont want to be specific on that :D)
She makes good money on chats, plus her variaous boyfriends sent her money for her "visa" , hehehe, she still dont have one yet :D....Happens to me that we had a liason, means I screwed her withoput paying anything..au contraire I earned with her (yeah I know thats bad) and the big news now, she is a lesbian and lives with her lesbian gf :D....
Thats just one example, I could name many....
Happy hunting and heads up!!
Blink
HornyGeorge
02-05-08, 01:43
While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).
I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.
The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.
While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).
I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.
The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.
yes, thats what I trying to say...
Happy hunting :)
Blink
Blink and HG have already clarifed and I agree one should be careful with girls living in AC -- esp. those in the flesh trade. Manila girls can be a pain too. Of course you have no guarantee that the sweety you meet in Cebu or Cagayan hasn't just returned from AC...or Singapore, or....
The original line that got my goat was:
"As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one."
ALL? Well, I'm not in a rush for a serious relation, but I've met some really nice people thru chat and keep in touch with many. I'd let more than a few marry my brother. (no, just kidding. I wouldn't wish that on any woman)
I've met some really nice ladies and I've met some really nice and naughty ladies. As for chatting with AC girls and cam girls, many have been honest with me about their work.
Nevertheless, we always hear about newbies making big mistakes. Love is blind.
Maybe some of us regulars should make a ten commandments list for newbies.
1) Thou shalt not propose marriage to any cyber girlfriend.
2) Thou shalt not send more than $100 a month, and then only after consulting ISG members for advice.
3) Thou shalt never put all eggs in one basket-- have several ladies lined up before departure.
4) Thou shalt not tell cyber cunts about p4p fun (that includes ISG).
5) Within reasonable limits, thou shalt treat women with care and respect so as not to screw it up for the next guy (ie, don't give her a disease or a pregnancy or a lifelong hate for men.)
6) ?
While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).
I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.
The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.
C blossom C00710990 Looks like a nice couple, and I wish them the very best. Read the lady's comments. She even give the guys acct. number - which curiously didn't come up when I searched it.
Commandment 6 Do not allow any virtual **** to meet you at the airport.
footnote: Guy common sense rule #1, empower women (in their minds), but always stay in control and show confidence.
"Oh, going to the Philippines is scary, please meet me at the airport and take care of me..."
I'm not trying to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of anyone. I once followed a beautiful woman to a strange land (not PI) and depended on her for many things. She was such the nurturing type, ...also the take control type as I later realized. It was so sweet that she met me at the airport.
Eventually, I got a job, made money, made some friends, got a life, and eventually found that both balls were still intact. Progeny induced me to put up with Ms control freak for several years.
Passion was what we had when she visited me in the US. In la la land, it was almost nonexistent. After only once a month, dead fish fks, she says...over morning coffee, "Let's have sex tonight, I want another baby."
I probably should have moved the coffee aside and giving her a good fk. Fortunately, I just told her "No, too late for that".
She divorced me a after a few too many of my trips to Thailand and that incident with the college girl.
I still feel guilty. Very guilty. Toward the end, we moved out of the apartment. The sweet college girl, her nickname was "muffy", visited. The apartment was completely empty, cold, no lights, no curtains. I still had a key though. I fked her all night on the carpet. Poor girl probably still has the rug burn scar on her back. Damn I feel guilty about that.
X
Blink and HG have already clarifed and I agree one should be careful with girls living in AC -- esp. those in the flesh trade. Manila girls can be a pain too. Of course you have no guarantee that the sweety you meet in Cebu or Cagayan hasn't just returned from AC...or Singapore, or....
The original line that got my goat was:
"As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one."
ALL? Well, I'm not in a rush for a serious relation, but I've met some really nice people thru chat and keep in touch with many. I'd let more than a few marry my brother. (no, just kidding. I wouldn't wish that on any woman)
I've met some really nice ladies and I've met some really nice and naughty ladies. As for chatting with AC girls and cam girls, many have been honest with me about their work.
Nevertheless, we always hear about newbies making big mistakes. Love is blind.
Maybe some of us regulars should make a ten commandments list for newbies.
1) Thou shalt not propose marriage to any cyber girlfriend.
2) Thou shalt not send more than $100 a month, and then only after consulting ISG members for advice.
3) Thou shalt never put all eggs in one basket-- have several ladies lined up before departure.
4) Thou shalt not tell cyber cunts about p4p fun (that includes ISG).
5) Within reasonable limits, thou shalt treat women with care and respect so as not to screw it up for the next guy (ie, don't give her a disease or a pregnancy or a lifelong hate for men.)
6) ?
hi,
yes its for newbies...not for man*****s like us :D....
agree with ur first comendment...dont do that, thats kind of desperate and stupid, who want to marry a gurl which you have never met in person or lived together for a certain time. The chatgurls dont belive that anyway..
2nd comend..dont send any money at all...If you never visit the gurl before or meet her in person dont DONT send any money..all the gurls I have send money was a waste of time, 80% of them I have screwd but sending them money to make me as their BF , yes ME think I was their serious BF was completely wrong and overpriced for the intercourse thing, means if you there, enough woman you can score, you just need a bit time, which I have now :D
If your together with her allready, its your decession if you send money...I can only tell, my gf NEVER asked any money from me...more on that laters
3rd commend..yes, totally agree, Im sure gurls doing the same thing, on the other site you realy have to be there and be quick also, justa story of mine, when i was dating the gurl on chatsite and we talked and then meet up in my hotel :D, some weeks later she gave up work and now live with a FilAm somewhere in Manila who is on site and tc of here..and her relatives LOL...guess I will hear from her again, soon or later, but not sure if Im still interested :D...This shows if a gurl really look for somebody who can take care of her and somebody comes upo with a gud offer, she is gone..SO, have many gurls lined up.
4th commendm: yeah be romantic and dont tell about ISG, agree with that
5th, yes agree with that. My gf is virgin (still) and I respect that. YOu can be with a gurl for a certain of time and dont have to do the sex thing, if you really love her..and there are plenty of other things you can do ;-)
Talkin about my gf and maybe advise to newbies how to get serious GF.
My GF is the sister of my buddy who lives allready 20 years in the Philippines. He has been together with her since 4 years. He is working and his GF is working after she finsihed her studies. She pays all the bills to support her family and also put her sis (my GF) tru hi school(after she finshed as the best of her year) and University..You have to be with a gurl a certain time also to see what she thinks, about foreigners etc, put her in different life situations and see her reactions.. I have that from my buddy, when i have a new GF he gave me some pretty good advise when he meet my new flame about her character etc...Another thing, because my buddy lives with his GF a certain time and knows the family, there wasnt any money thing coming up to him.
Of course he support his GF with a certain amount and she also earns money, but there aint any "surprises" comin up, like carabao died etc etc...She has her budget and she is ok with that...
In other words, know the gurl first, meet her family and then decide where you want to go.
just wanted to add NEVER TXT a gurl first, especially if your in AC, if she doesnt txt you first or txt back, she aint interested. One story on the side, the last gurl I txt and met in AC (agassya) replied to me after I txt her, but it wasnt her, someone else replied to my txt, very funny. I found out later, just let the gurls txt you, make them wait, Pinoy guys do the same , if a gurl aint interested in you, its waste of time/money.
Another thing, talk about emotions, what you feel, etc, pinays are responding to that..you will see it :D
Ok thats enough for today..
Happy hunting
Blink
C blossom C00710990 Looks like a nice couple, and I wish them the very best. Read the lady's comments. She even give the guys acct. number - which curiously didn't come up when I searched it.
Commandment 6 Do not allow any virtual **** to meet you at the airport.
footnote: Guy common sense rule #1, empower women (in their minds), but always stay in control and show confidence.
"Oh, going to the Philippines is scary, please meet me at the airport and take care of me..."
I'm not trying to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of anyone. I once followed a beautiful woman to a strange land (not PI) and depended on her for many things. She was such the nurturing type, ...also the take control type as I later realized. It was so sweet that she met me at the airport.
Eventually, I got a job, made money, made some friends, got a life, and eventually found that both balls were still intact. Progeny induced me to put up with Ms control freak for several years.
Passion was what we had when she visited me in the US. In la la land, it was almost nonexistent. After only once a month, dead fish fks, she says...over morning coffee, "Let's have sex tonight, I want another baby."
I probably should have moved the coffee aside and giving her a good fk. Fortunately, I just told her "No, too late for that".
She divorced me a after a few too many of my trips to Thailand and that incident with the college girl.
I still feel guilty. Very guilty. Toward the end, we moved out of the apartment. The sweet college girl, her nickname was "muffy", visited. The apartment was completely empty, cold, no lights, no curtains. I still had a key though. I fked her all night on the carpet. Poor girl probably still has the rug burn scar on her back. Damn I feel guilty about that.
X
yes,
agree with that also...I not sure if I reported before..I met a gurl from chatsite in 2005, never met her in person and agreed to met her at the airport.
She was there with her little family, her chubby sis , her mom and maybe her mom boyfriend a cab driver who picked me up for 50 Euro!!!! from the airport to my hotel, then to a restaurant and then drives mom and her daugher home..
AFter allmost 24 hours on my legs I really dont need karaoke(which we did after I took a shower in my hotel) and when walking my gurl to Ermita hotel I saw many lookers on my way to my room, more hot then my "partner" and that gave me the idea of getin rid of her soon, which I did :D...
I just lost 3 days, so dont let somebody pick you never met before..just sharing my experiance. Met her the next day in a mall and see where things will go, if you both "click" go on and have fun...
Happy hunting
Blink
Hey Blink, thanks for all the stories and info.
Umm, man*****? Speak for yourself.
I agree with your point about money, but if one gets serious with a girl, it's not unreasonable to pay basic expenses. (yes, you should meet her face to face before getting serious) Helping put a kid thru college isn't such a bad thing to do -- if you're sure that's what she's doing.
Of course some dunderheads buy a girl an expensive phone, pay phone bills, just so he can call her everyday. I had to listen to one dunderhead chat with his girl while she was next to me in bed. The phone rang, she glanced at the phone, seemed startled as she pulled my ck out of her mouth, told me to be quiet and then answered the phone, "hello darling.".
Not sure what you mean about never texting first. If you only wait for them to text you, then you are ending up with the desperate ones. Again, Blink, don't apply AC standards to all Filipinas. Yes, the AC bar girls will text you and will send some really naughty stuff. This is the "chat rooms" thread and 98% of chat ladies are not p4p. BTW, where did you meet ladies online?
x
hi,
yes its for newbies...not for man*****s like us :D....
agree with ur first comendment...dont do that, thats kind of desperate and stupid, who want to marry a gurl which you have never met in person or lived together for a certain time. The chatgurls dont belive that anyway..
2nd comend..dont send any money at all...If you never visit the gurl before or meet her in person dont DONT send any money..all the gurls I have send money was a waste of time, 80% of them I have screwd but sending them money to make me as their BF , yes ME think I was their serious BF was completely wrong and overpriced for the intercourse thing, means if you there, enough woman you can score, you just need a bit time, which I have now :D
If your together with her allready, its your decession if you send money...I can only tell, my gf NEVER asked any money from me...more on that laters
3rd commend..yes, totally agree, Im sure gurls doing the same thing, on the other site you realy have to be there and be quick also, justa story of mine, when i was dating the gurl on chatsite and we talked and then meet up in my hotel :D, some weeks later she gave up work and now live with a FilAm somewhere in Manila who is on site and tc of here..and her relatives LOL...guess I will hear from her again, soon or later, but not sure if Im still interested :D...This shows if a gurl really look for somebody who can take care of her and somebody comes upo with a gud offer, she is gone..SO, have many gurls lined up.
4th commendm: yeah be romantic and dont tell about ISG, agree with that
5th, yes agree with that. My gf is virgin (still) and I respect that. YOu can be with a gurl for a certain of time and dont have to do the sex thing, if you really love her..and there are plenty of other things you can do ;-)
Talkin about my gf and maybe advise to newbies how to get serious GF.
My GF is the sister of my buddy who lives allready 20 years in the Philippines. He has been together with her since 4 years. He is working and his GF is working after she finsihed her studies. She pays all the bills to support her family and also put her sis (my GF) tru hi school(after she finshed as the best of her year) and University..You have to be with a gurl a certain time also to see what she thinks, about foreigners etc, put her in different life situations and see her reactions.. I have that from my buddy, when i have a new GF he gave me some pretty good advise when he meet my new flame about her character etc...Another thing, because my buddy lives with his GF a certain time and knows the family, there wasnt any money thing coming up to him.
Of course he support his GF with a certain amount and she also earns money, but there aint any "surprises" comin up, like carabao died etc etc...She has her budget and she is ok with that...
In other words, know the gurl first, meet her family and then decide where you want to go.
just wanted to add NEVER TXT a gurl first, especially if your in AC, if she doesnt txt you first or txt back, she aint interested. One story on the side, the last gurl I txt and met in AC (agassya) replied to me after I txt her, but it wasnt her, someone else replied to my txt, very funny. I found out later, just let the gurls txt you, make them wait, Pinoy guys do the same , if a gurl aint interested in you, its waste of time/money.
Another thing, talk about emotions, what you feel, etc, pinays are responding to that..you will see it :D
Ok thats enough for today..
Happy hunting
Blink
Hey Blink, thanks for all the stories and info.
Umm, man*****? Speak for yourself.
I agree with your point about money, but if one gets serious with a girl, it's not unreasonable to pay basic expenses. (yes, you should meet her face to face before getting serious) Helping put a kid thru college isn't such a bad thing to do -- if you're sure that's what she's doing.
Of course some dunderheads buy a girl an expensive phone, pay phone bills, just so he can call her everyday. I had to listen to one dunderhead chat with his girl while she was next to me in bed. The phone rang, she glanced at the phone, seemed startled as she pulled my ck out of her mouth, told me to be quiet and then answered the phone, "hello darling.".
Not sure what you mean about never texting first. If you only wait for them to text you, then you are ending up with the desperate ones. Again, Blink, don't apply AC standards to all Filipinas. Yes, the AC bar girls will text you and will send some really naughty stuff. This is the "chat rooms" thread and 98% of chat ladies are not p4p. BTW, where did you meet ladies online?
x
Hi,
most of them I met online at acm or abc, which have the biggest selection. I also signed up in filipinaheart and cherry blossom, but I havent extent my membership, cause so many gurls here and talkin to them is easy. I think if you home in your country its a good thing to prepare for ur next holiday, cause Im not sure about you, but IM a bit tired of the AC gurl scene. Many of them aint my liking, Im a kind of chosy guy and why should I screw bargurls who are downhill compare to the looks of my gf. Of course after 12 san migules Im more open minded and not so chosy any more.
I think the most maganda gurls are in AGassya. Last time I saw Richard there, owner of blue nile, he also know where to go :D..surely he can give a big tip ehehehe....problem in agassya is, the pretty ones make enough money with drinks, barhops and no sex. Now, that there is some trouble in AC regarding barfines Im interested how they do. As of now Im back in my country, getting some things to the Philippines for the rainy days (Playstation 3, soundsystem, LCDTV, etc :D) and have to see some clients. IM pretty bored and cant wait to be back next month. Then I will start to built up some f..ckfriendsrelation in Manila. Thats the best part in Philippines, they all speak english and you can easy flirt to them. YOu also have to know , that most of the filipinas are traveling many hours to their work, which gives a gentleman like me the oportunity to offer bed and breakfast :D, so no need to waste time with traveling....Life is hard...hehehehe
My line, dont txt, just wait until u get txted allways works, if a gurl is interested in you, she will txt you back, that specially works for the so called NON AC gurls, from provinces....even my GF :D..YOu have to be a little macho in the Phils, the gurl have to respect you. Allways remember, you can have another GF evry day, no problem, so you in charge.
Maybe that sounds harsh, but thats the way it is in the Phils. If your a under-the-skirt-guy and allways give in, your lost, believe me I got some experiences in that when I lived 10 years ago in the Philippines.
Happy hunting
Blink
I am pretty willing to give folks the benifit of the doubt on things, but when I see multiple ads with the same language attributed to a pair of hot young ladies who are suppose to be far apart, I have to wonder. Check out these to ads and notice that not only are their words the same, they are similarly distinctive in size. It could be that there is a well-know platitude or self-help book that they have both read, or that great minds think alike, but if I had to place a bet...
Hi Blink, I appreciate your info and input. Nevertheless, I still think the picture you are painting is basically and AC p4p scene. Some people here at "chat rooms" might never have been in the Philippines and / or they may actually be looking for something permanent. So, let me clarify some things..
I don't know acm, but abc is a sex cam site. I also wouldn't count too much on a girl i met on a sex cam site. CB and FH women are usually very different - it seems you don't have a paid membership, so you haven't chatted with any of them. That being said, you will soemtimes find sxcam girls at CB and FH. They are trolling for customers.
Also, the "don't text them first" idea is also misleading. It sounds like you are in AC long term. Well, yea, if a girl doesn't text you, she's probably busy in some guys hotel room. You can then walk into a bar and have a woman attached to your crank in a matter of minutes. And there is always tomorrow or next week or next month. An envious situation.
Some of us come to the Philippines and might have only a week. We might be in Cebu or Davao or Cagayan de oro. We might also want to try our luck with regular women. If you wait for them to text you, you might spend the evening alone. Just a few days ago I read in the Davao thread about a guy who had a sexless weekend.
I will add one more thing - which seems to contradict Blink. As unnecessary as it seems, it's probably a good rule of thumb to always reconfirm a date (call or text). I've had a couple of no shows because I didn't do this. They say, "Well I didn't hear from you so I thought you changed your mind." Duh.
Hi,
most of them I met online at acm or abc, which have the biggest selection. I also signed up in filipinaheart and cherry blossom,
HornyGeorge
02-13-08, 02:42
It may well be the granddaddy of webcam sites. Yes it is very different than CB, FH, DIA etc. , but I agree with blink that MANY of the models are amenable to in person meetings if you treat them half decent. I have done very well using that method which I only recently discovered (a girl I met on DIA told me about ACM.) You should try it xman.
It may well be the granddaddy of webcam sites. Yes it is very different than CB, FH, DIA etc. , but I agree with blink that MANY of the models are amenable to in person meetings if you treat them half decent. I have done very well using that method which I only recently discovered (a girl I met on DIA told me about ACM.) You should try it xman.
Please would someone supply the web address of ACM, ABC, etc.
Thanks!
HornyGeorge
02-13-08, 22:28
asianbabecams.com
asiancammmodels.com
sexyasiancams.com
Filipinamagic.com
If anybody knows others by all means post them.
I am pretty willing to give folks the benifit of the doubt on things, but when I see multiple ads with the same language attributed to a pair of hot young ladies who are suppose to be far apart, I have to wonder. Check out these to ads and notice that not only are their words the same, they are similarly distinctive in size. It could be that there is a well-know platitude or self-help book that they have both read, or that great minds think alike, but if I had to place a bet...
Its so easy to assume things and get it wrong.
One of my newer GF's & I have been having a torrid affair with lots of txt's before & after visits all day & nite. Suddenly I don't hear from her all day.. the natural thought is she's busy with some other guy. One of my other girls also went 'off the air' that day so I checked with my office in Manila & they confirmed that the Smart network had been down all day. No conspiracy, just phone problems.
I use dating sites a lot because I like the freshness of non P4P girls so I have some experience in this area. I have known girls who put up ad's when they are living in one place and then months later put a new ad when they have moved to a new place. Students do this quite a bit.
The girls don't have to pay for the ad's so they are very sloppy about 'maintaining' their ad's. Also consider most of them lead very simple lives & have almost no computer skills. Often ad's are put there with the help of a bakla cousin or best friend who got help from a cousin who got help from a friend...
Yes, there are some amateur scammers (and even some professional ones) out there amongst the genuine girls to further complicate the picture.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Please would someone supply the web address of ACM, ABC, etc.
Thanks!
Its easy to google up the web sites _IF_ you know what the abbreiavtions stand for. Lately people are posting using these abbreviations & assuming everyone else know's what they refer to.
Here's a list of some of them, would other mongers please fill in the blanks or add new ones. There's a whole bunch of Chinese related dating web sites also which even more cryptic abbreviations. (I dont post them here because I get a headache trying to decipher it & can't be bothered with it)
ACM - Asian Cam Models
ABC -
CB - Cherry Blossoms
DIA - Date in Asia
FH - Filippna Heart
FK - Filippina Kisses
SAC -
Happy Mongering
Amavida
This is a valentine to all the wonderful women I've know in this quirky country...
with apologies to Willie Nelson for his song
To all the girls I've loved before
Who travelled in and out my door
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls I once caressed
And may I say I've held the best
For helping me to grow
I owe a lot I know
To all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
To all the girls who shared my life
Who now are someone else's wives
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls who cared for me
Who filled my nights with ecstasy
They live within my heart
I'll always be a part
Of all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
Starchild2012
02-14-08, 16:32
This is a valentine to all the wonderful women I've know in this quirky country...
with apologies to Willie Nelson for his song
To all the girls I've loved before
Who travelled in and out my door
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls I once caressed
And may I say I've held the best
For helping me to grow
I owe a lot I know
To all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
To all the girls who shared my life
Who now are someone else's wives
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls who cared for me
Who filled my nights with ecstasy
They live within my heart
I'll always be a part
Of all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
Thanks..It was great.
Starchild2012
02-14-08, 16:50
asianbabecams.com
asiancammmodels.com
sexyasiancams.com
Filipinamagic.com
If anybody knows others by all means post them.Man why did I come to these sites before. It is a gem. By the way. ACM and filipinamagic have the same Feed. Just found out
Good luck.
Here is one more to the list:
cams2chat.com
Erik 67
there was a question on the mnl thread about why so many women report that they are "simple....." and what does it mean. i moved it here because 1) i see this so often on the pay for filipina contact sites. 2) the comment by amavida is just so stupid i can't ignore it.
***the comment is stupid....no flames please.
simple women...
i asked a very similar question about two years ago here at isg and the consensus was pretty much along the lines of gumby and freebief. they really do have a simple life. it's kind of old, but an isg classic was spamhog's trip to the remote areas of mindanao.
i've been up in the mountains of cebu island where dinner was started by ...campfire!. been in bamboo houses where shower room was the back yard - nieghbers front yard. night walks were always with warnigs
about, "watch for snakes".
they call it simple, i call it the adventure of a life time. i do regret the time 20 years ago where i gave that gal a good fuck in her bamboo house. i'm sure the entire extended family felt the vibrations.
anyway, back to the topic..."we are simple"
asians do tend to be humble/modest as well. but do your own research...and don't ask people like amavida!
most asian are more group oriented than westerners, so there is the copycat effect. also, there is the image that "west is best", but also, "i'm not deserving of what i see in those hollywood movies".
most americans underestimate the power of us/western music / movies / internet, etc at influencing attitudes overseas. i think they call it "soft power", but like any brand, scandals will erode the brand name effect pretty quickly. search for okinawa + america + [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and you'll see what i mean.
x
Its easy to google up the web sites _IF_ you know what the abbreiavtions stand for. Lately people are posting using these abbreviations & assuming everyone else know's what they refer to.
Here's a list of some of them, would other mongers please fill in the blanks or add new ones. --cut--
ACM - Asian Cam Models
ABC -
CB - Cherry Blossoms
DIA - Date in Asia
FH - Filippna Heart
FK - Filippina Kisses
SAC -
--cut--
Missing ones are asian babe cams (ABC) and sexy asian cams (SAC). Cheers
Longhorn2000
02-16-08, 02:39
I think I'm beginning to see a pattern with some of these chat girls. Prior to my trip last month, I bonded with an FH girl, who was really into sexually explicit chats, online porn sharing, etc. She told me in graphic detail what we were going to do when I was there, and how often. So imagine my surprise when she showed up at my hotel with mom and dad in tow! So much for the bedroom gymnastics.
So I get back home, and I promptly start another "relationship" with a really hot girl on FH. Again, she's into sexually explicit chats, phone sex, etc. , and assures me that we will be doing it like rabbits when I return on my next trip. I then share with her my disappointing experience from the last trip, in an effort to make sure that it won't be repeated. She then starts backpedaling, and telling me that she will probably not be able to spend much time with me alone unless we get married as soon as I get there! SAY WHAT?
I'd be interested in hearing from X-Man, et al. How they would handle a similar situation.
Rubio Tonto
02-16-08, 06:49
Also, both ABC and ACM don't work if you're in the Philippines at the time. It's either because the site owners don't want their bandwidth taken up by tons of Pinoys wanting free chats, or it's because it's blocked for some "moral" reason. Another site is honeydolls.com
Sexually explicit chat isn't really my thing. One girl said she'd lick my balls, but then couldn't meet when I was in country and is now in UK. I assume her bf was in town the same time I was....so it was his balls that got licked.
Innuendo is more fun for me and less risky.
As for the first lady you met Longhorn - did you follow up on that? I wouldn't like the idea if she showed up with parents without letting me know, but in some cases getting parental approval is a formality. If you get that...and she isn't a virgin, you should be able to have your way with her. I've had pretty good luck with women after getting the thumbs up from family members or other chaperones.
X
I think I'm beginning to see a pattern with some of these chat girls. Prior to my trip last month, I bonded with an FH girl, who was really into sexually explicit chats, online porn sharing, etc. She told me in graphic detail what we were going to do when I was there, and how often. So imagine my surprise when she showed up at my hotel with mom and dad in tow! So much for the bedroom gymnastics.
So I get back home, and I promptly start another "relationship" with a really hot girl on FH. Again, she's into sexually explicit chats, phone sex, etc. , and assures me that we will be doing it like rabbits when I return on my next trip. I then share with her my disappointing experience from the last trip, in an effort to make sure that it won't be repeated. She then starts backpedaling, and telling me that she will probably not be able to spend much time with me alone unless we get married as soon as I get there! SAY WHAT?
I'd be interested in hearing from X-Man, et al. How they would handle a similar situation.
Sexually explicit chat isn't really my thing.
Innuendo is more fun for me and less risky.
If you get that...and she isn't a virgin, you should be able to have your way with her. I've had pretty good luck with women after getting the thumbs up from family members or other chaperones.
The women have more respect for you if you don't come right out and chat about sex, at least not in the beginning. Beating around the bush can be just as rewarding because they will pick up on your innuendos and know what your chatting about anyway.
So true from my experiences as well. If they can trust you, you are golden!
HornyGeorge
02-16-08, 21:58
A STRONG correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. Nice Filipinas just don't do that! ANYTHING that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head (gotta keep the ego in check and take the "your so gwapo" comments with MORE than a grain of salt).
The best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are CERTAIN they like you. Patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?
I agree with HG. As for the blocking, I've found that even this site was blocked in some Net cafes. I guess it depends on who is running the biz and who is setting up the security features.
X
A STRONG correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. Nice Filipinas just don't do that! ANYTHING that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head (gotta keep the ego in check and take the "your so gwapo" comments with MORE than a grain of salt).
The best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are CERTAIN they like you. Patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?
I think I'm beginning to see a pattern with some of these chat girls. Prior to my trip last month, I bonded with an FH girl, who was really into sexually explicit chats, online porn sharing, etc. She told me in graphic detail what we were going to do when I was there, and how often. So imagine my surprise when she showed up at my hotel with mom and dad in tow! So much for the bedroom gymnastics.
So I get back home, and I promptly start another "relationship" with a really hot girl on FH. Again, she's into sexually explicit chats, phone sex, etc. , and assures me that we will be doing it like rabbits when I return on my next trip. I then share with her my disappointing experience from the last trip, in an effort to make sure that it won't be repeated. She then starts backpedaling, and telling me that she will probably not be able to spend much time with me alone unless we get married as soon as I get there! SAY WHAT?
I'd be interested in hearing from X-Man, et al. How they would handle a similar situation.If they bring up sex, 99 percent chance they are only after money. Even after having great sex with the girls, they don't like to talk "dirty"
The Fox113
02-17-08, 10:56
The PI is blocked for ACM due to fraud and also some other places some IP's in Germany so I found out. There are enough free proxy server downloads out there to see you through most trips. I have Hide My IP Address on a Thumb drive it is based on its own browser so you can use it anywhere (even cafes no information left behind) but sometimes it may pick a server IP that is blocked by ACM. If you carry your own computer with you Anonymizer works very well and lets you set where you want your IP to come from(It is a pay one but has a free trial period). I had trouble with ISG PM's once but I think that was when I was behind proxy and once shut down it came good.
The Fox
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?
A STRONG correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. Nice Filipinas just don't do that! ANYTHING that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head (gotta keep the ego in check and take the "your so gwapo" comments with MORE than a grain of salt).
The best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are CERTAIN they like you. Patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?
Hi,
those sites are been blocked in Thailand and Phils. , unlike livejasmin, (thats why gurls dont like to work there) The pinoy guys you saw typing in freechat are mostly from abroad (OFW) and get bored like we do, hehehehe....
YOu can also access those sites if you pc literate (Proxy etc), but if your in the Philippines you go for the real thing...
Happy hunting!!
Blink
a strong correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. nice filipinas just don't do that! anything that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head ...
absolutely agree with you hg!
we have to play the game of being 'nice guys' so they can maintain the facade of being 'good girls' to their friends & family. this is crucial.
if you cultivate an online romance & behave nicely the sex will come & it will be great, just need a little patience & a little savy. if you rush it you can kiss the sex good bye. i know some guys who use a direct approach but these guys tend to go for short time sex with very average looking women who will prostitute themselves for an hour in desperation for a few bucks to feed their inevitable baby.
the best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are certain they like you. patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
yes once again absolutely agree with you 100% hg.
even after all these months of my 18yr old (former) cherry girl practically [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) me in my hotel every chance she gets, any direct mention of sex in txt or chat sends her mute with embarrassment.
[as an aside, prior to my last visit a couple of weeks ago she very coyly informed me in chat one day that she thought i wanted her to 'kiss ur bananna' and asked me if could i bring some naughty films so she 'could learn how' :) i took over a really classy bbj video clip on my computer & let her have a shy look. needles to say she is good student & has graduated with an 'a' in bbj]
compare this to a chick i have in singapore who gave me the most incredible virtual sex via txt (all all things) who turned out to be complete dud in bed! boy you learn this lesson fast!
if a chick offers to show her body or talk dirty its a sign of desperation or she's been p4p for quite a while.
if i want p4p i will go to a bar, when i get chicks from dating sites im looking for low mileage girls capable of a true gfe.
happy mongering
amavida
Here's an interesting one for you. I must be a little obsessive compulsive because I keep record of every girl & contact or vice versa. The easiest way to do this on a Mac is to 'Print' the profile of the chick as a .pdf file. The built in Spotlight search will almost instantly find the file for you based on whatever scrap of information you have.
Anywaaay, I contacted this chick on DIA four months ago during one of my mad profile spamming moments, never heard back from her. Last week she messages me in my email & pops up in yahoo. Thank god I have some info on her because she turned out to be quite nice & a cut above the usual desperate dirt poor province girl.
Claimed to be an executive banker (Metrobank) so flew down to Tacloban to satisfy my curiosity. (I know, I know, its a bloody long way from Manila to Leyte just for a root but hey I've done worse) Lo & behold its all true & I now have a very nice middle class pinay GF who humps nicely & does'nt leech money from me. She promises to visit me in Manila when she can. Claims to stay in Tiara Oriental in San Antonio when she's in town.
Amazing what good record keeping can sometimes do..
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Great story. Hope you can do a Leyte field report sometime soon (in the "other areas" section). Did you ever get out of Tacloban? Where did you stay in Tacloban I'm thinking of taking the SuperFerry/cat whatever to Ormoc.
Here's an interesting one for you. I must be a little obsessive compulsive because I keep record of every girl & contact or vice versa. The easiest way to do this on a Mac is to 'Print' the profile of the chick as a .pdf file. The built in Spotlight search will almost instantly find the file for you based on whatever scrap of information you have.
Anywaaay, I contacted this chick on DIA four months ago during one of my mad profile spamming moments, never heard back from her. Last week she messages me in my email & pops up in yahoo. Thank god I have some info on her because she turned out to be quite nice & a cut above the usual desperate dirt poor province girl.
Claimed to be an executive banker (Metrobank) so flew down to Tacloban to satisfy my curiosity. (I know, I know, its a bloody long way from Manila to Leyte just for a root but hey I've done worse) Lo & behold its all true & I now have a very nice middle class pinay GF who humps nicely & does'nt leech money from me. She promises to visit me in Manila when she can. Claims to stay in Tiara Oriental in San Antonio when she's in town.
Amazing what good record keeping can sometimes do..
Happy Mongering
Amavida
HornyGeorge
02-19-08, 00:48
Only been to Maasin and Southern Leyte, where I can report a complete absence of girlie bars but an INCREDIBLE abundance of VERY friendly non pros VERY interested in any half decent foreigner that might be passing through. LOTS of come hither smiles from a bevy of beautiful babae.
On the other hand Leyte has more churches than any place I've seen in the PI, and that is quite an [dubious] accomplishment.
So I live up in Tokyo and planning a trip down to Manila and thought I would see if I could arrange to meet a girl while I was there. I set up a FH account and after one day I had 36 interest and 7 messages, and my picture was not even approved.
Anyways thanks for the info about these girls
Mongering1
02-20-08, 00:56
Missing ones are asian babe cams (ABC) and sexy asian cams (SAC). Cheers
Still another, asiancybercams (ACC)
Bud
Somehow I doubt Amavida is going to do a Leyte review....just a hunch.
HG, I can find the churches and girls....as you noted, they are everywhere. Any info on hotels, beaches, nightlife, transportation?
X
Only been to Maasin and Southern Leyte, where I can report a complete absence of girlie bars but an INCREDIBLE abundance of VERY friendly non pros VERY interested in any half decent foreigner that might be passing through. LOTS of come hither smiles from a bevy of beautiful babae.
On the other hand Leyte has more churches than any place I've seen in the PI, and that is quite an [dubious] accomplishment.
Now the problem is keeping track of them. Amavida gave some ideas in an earlier post. I think it was Mahku who said use the "note" section in Y messenger. I wish I had done that from the beginning.
I use print screen software to take a pic of the profile. I try to get their email and phone # as soon as possible and then print the pic, pencil in the info. Eventually the info in the computer and the hard copy printouts get sorted into city/area. So, when I fly into Cebu next week I'll have a nice stack of papers with pics and contact info. I sometimes travel with a laptop, but I still find the printouts easier to manage.
My biggest problem is connecting the profile at Cherry Bl and then the person who ends up in my Y messenger files -- especially if they use different names.
A long time ago there was a site called 2match you coming out of AC. I don't know if they still exist. When it started it was free and I chatted with lots of ladies. Foolishly, I didn't keep good records and never was able to meet some real stunners when I went to AC.
Anyway, try to stay organized! It will pay off eventually. Do any of you others have a "system"?
X
So I live up in Tokyo and planning a trip down to Manila and thought I would see if I could arrange to meet a girl while I was there. I set up a FH account and after one day I had 36 interest and 7 messages, and my picture was not even approved.
Anyways thanks for the info about these girls
Pocket Sushi
02-20-08, 01:51
Sexually explicit chat isn't really my thing. One girl said she'd lick my balls, but then couldn't meet when I was in country and is now in UK. I assume her bf was in town the same time I was....so it was his balls that got licked.LMAO. Maybe its because I'm tired, but that paragraph made me laugh out loud.
Puerto La Cruz
02-20-08, 03:42
Hahahahaha. Do you do taxes too??
A long time ago there was a site called 2match you coming out of AC. I don't know if they still exist. When it started it was free and I chatted with lots of ladies. Foolishly, I didn't keep good records and never was able to meet some real stunners when I went to AC.
Thats too bad because you missed out. 2MatchU was a internet cafe located at the foot of Fields Ave. They had a good business plan but their website never caught on. It was owned by some Swede. Only women were allowed in their net cafe and online time was free for one hour as long as they logged onto 2Mu. The website is still up last time I checked. Had the pleasure of meeting many nice women and not just from the entertainment industry. Still have a few lady friends there with privileges!
hi to all,
just some things i like to add to this topic, not sure if it had discussed like this before.
if you date gurls from those so called paid chatsites like acm, abc etc..you shoud beware of their age. some of them dont have the legal age to be online and perform "shows"....in other words, some of those "models" are ****.
whenever i suspect such thing i will send email to the "site" and inform them to check on this..however, the "model" comes up with a fake id and things are solved.
i personally know two of those models who are ****, but on their id they submit, it shows they have the legal age. so i dont have a proof and im kind of helpless in this situation..on the other hand, this is a way for them to avoid working in a bar at their age and they can earn some money..
the problem is, if you date them , meet them up and make them as your gf...then the trouble starts...
so, if you not sure when dealing with this, means you met up with those gurl, you ask for id, she will show you her id or make you belive she has the legal age. ask some pinoys, specialy ask your receptionist at your hotels front desk what they think..and if they have doubt, let it go...
maybe somebody wants to reply on that.. i don twant open discussion about ****. this is out of the topic of this forum. i just wanted to inform that some filipinas workin on those sites dont have the legal age to do so and you if you date them you should get secound opinion and further proof.
its for the gurls safety, but also for yours...just some thoughs i would like to share....
blink
[quote=blink157]hi to all,
just some things i like to add to this topic, not sure if it had discussed like this before.
if you date gurls from those so called paid chatsites like acm, abc etc.....
hello blink,
can you please help me by answering the following questions. i must admit i am "fob" (fresh off the boat) about chat cam sites.i have heard on the grape-vine that they are 'scams' and the girls just want to bleed you for money.
1) how do you date a girl on the chat sites?
2) what is the approximate cost involved? viz. how much would you have to spend to get to know the girl?
3) why would you want to meet these girls when you can go to the bars? you know a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
4) do these girls operate more than one chat site at the same time?
5) can these girls earn good money? say $150/$250 or more per week.
6) i would hazard a guess and speculate that the attractive ladies would be very busy and in high demand. true or false?
big thanks, blink. all the very breast, mate.
[quote=blink157]hi to all,
just some things i like to add to this topic, not sure if it had discussed like this before.
if you date gurls from those so called paid chatsites like acm, abc etc.....
hello blink,
can you please help me by answering the following questions. i must admit i am "fob" (fresh off the boat) about chat cam sites.i have heard on the grape-vine that they are 'scams' and the girls just want to bleed you for money.
1) how do you date a girl on the chat sites?
2) what is the approximate cost involved? viz. how much would you have to spend to get to know the girl?
3) why would you want to meet these girls when you can go to the bars? you know a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
4) do these girls operate more than one chat site at the same time?
5) can these girls earn good money? say $150/$250 or more per week.
6) i would hazard a guess and speculate that the attractive ladies would be very busy and in high demand. true or false?
big thanks, blink. all the very breast, mate.
hi,
my favoured topic lol...
ok here ur answers..
1) if you see them online , ask them first if they ever met a foreigner member in person and if they like to do so, tell them your soon in town and looking for a real gf, your broken hearted etc etc etc....lets see what she will say..
ask her if she has ym, get her ym id..maybe youhve t spend some bucks in prvt, sometimes they give you also for free, if they desperate, which is the case now, cause i count more then 800 models on acm :d
get her cp number..when you in pi, chnage ur status on ym into sms, so you can have allways contact with them and txt them, sometimes they busy at first , but sometimes they bored and want to go out
2)i advise you do that just before you go to the philippines, so you wont spend much to them..maybe you invest 50bucks, get their ym id and cp and tell them u hit them when you in town..
3) big advantage of those sites is, you sit at hme, excited to go to the philippines soon and dreaming to meet those hot filipinas...its like shopping, you hit on the gurl you like and if you ask the mandatory questions (see reply1) you get their contacts..overall they look a bit better then those gurls you can find in ac bars,specialy the stunners and you dont have to go to all th ebars to find your gurl for the night. also, some of them are ok to go out, dine etc..while most of the ac gurls i will tell bye bye the next day..they sometimes a bit more educated then bargurls, but also know that some work in bars before, you can tell by talkin to them and see how they comunicate.
4) yes, they online up to 3 sites at one time, depends on their pc and connection, to make more money..
5)yes, the stunners can make good money, the dogs wont, same as in bars, if the gurl is ugly she wont make gud money there either..good ones can make 40 000 pesos a month plus what their bf send them and much more..
6) they have their sugardadddys and contacts, pinoy bf etc et, but you never know if u never try, i would go for the new ones in business, same as for the new gurls in a bar, they probably just tstart to tget the bola2 skills so you might be lucky if you hit them first..
there are also exceptions, i date one very busy chick last time,met her and scrwed her the first night, without paying much, just drinks and food when we went out, so no big deal,, i post her picture here...now she is a pgreant from poor pinoy guy, not much smart those gurls, just streetsmart..
finally...
it salwas good if you prepared for ur upcoming trip in the phils with some contacts..when you there you can allwas decide if you goin to meet them up or not, maybe you hit your jewel the first night, take her for some vacation to boracay and you will never meet anyone of your online contacts...you know if you there and if you try...
you also have to know, those gurls work on sites to make money without having sex with the guys..some will do, some not..some just want to go shopping and you pay and pay and get nothing,some lookin for a real bf, most of them for a sugardaddy..i recomand to date those gurls with a scientific approach..like xman :d...meet them in ur free time during day, for lunch breakfast or early dinner..if you have the feeling they just after ur money and u get nothing, justtell them bye bye..meet them in public place..
avoid talkin bout sex and f..in, be more romantic..ask before meeting them how many chaperons they bring to avoid spending...sometimes they just bring somebody to check on you, if your ok and get another opinion..
hope that helps a bit...post ur experience here, so we all more smarter after this lol
happy hunting
blink
Notanocker
02-21-08, 14:10
X Man, congratulations on yet another interesting and informative post. I am looking on FH for a girlfriend and find that the best way to keep track of my contacts is to use the 'Favourites' section and to copy cellphone numbers and email addresses there, and also copy email addresses into my personal yahoo email folder. However of course on trips to Phils more and more I believe it is essential to have a cellphone (principally for P1 texting of girls) because so many do not 'front', or fail to 'front' on time. My last trip had far too many trips to the public phones on the third floor of Robinsons Place Ermita. I learnt a valuable lesson! Maybe my methods are 'ye olde worlde' but I won't go to the extent of bringing a laptop: I'm not ashamed to admit that an A$1.50 made in Indonesia small notebook is more efficient and quicker (unless one loses it of course).
I agree with you on two points Notanocker (why do I keep wondering what notanocker means?).
You do not need a laptop and you DO need a cell phone. The cell phone that I've been using for the last two years in the Philippines is now sold used for about 800 pesos. Most of the women I date / fk in Phil have far nicer phones. As for the others, well, they don't have a phone at all.
Point is....you can buy a used phone for 1k minimun and it will be a great investment.
What do you mean by "front"?
X Man, congratulations on yet another interesting and informative post. I am looking on FH for a girlfriend and find that the best way to keep track of my contacts is to use the 'Favourites' section and to copy cellphone numbers and email addresses there, and also copy email addresses into my personal yahoo email folder. However of course on trips to Phils more and more I believe it is essential to have a cellphone (principally for P1 texting of girls) because so many do not 'front', or fail to 'front' on time. My last trip had far too many trips to the public phones on the third floor of Robinsons Place Ermita. I learnt a valuable lesson! Maybe my methods are 'ye olde worlde' but I won't go to the extent of bringing a laptop: I'm not ashamed to admit that an A$1.50 made in Indonesia small notebook is more efficient and quicker (unless one loses it of course).
In her message she says something like "are you brave".
Well are you?
Cherry bl
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HornyGeorge
02-21-08, 21:45
Also, I like the ability to make the image fullscreen, and the LACK of this utility is a major drawback to SAC. A way around this is to get their YM then open the cam on Ym instead of SAC while you still have SAC open in private mode so she gets paid.
NEW cellphones (Nokia) can be purchased for under 2000 Piso and both times I bought used ones they developed problems soon after leaving Manila (where I bought them-at Robinson's Ermita in the cellphone vendor section).
So I suggest either bring your phone from home (to get it unlocked will cost $10) or buying a new phone in PI (rather than risking it with a used one).
Blinks' post has some very sound advice.
Wicked Roger
02-22-08, 08:03
In her message she says something like "are you brave".
Well are you?
Cherry bl
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Am a coward XMan am in this case am proud to admit it :D
Also, I like the ability to make the image fullscreen, and the LACK of this utility is a major drawback to SAC. ...
Hi HG, I have guessed what most of the abbreviations mean but what is SAC?
Amavida
Hi Wazza,
I saw these questions from you about cam girls & thought Id throw in my experiences.
Cam girls are an interesting side show to the main event or useful if you're far from the phils & need some ... ah... philippina style relaxation... hehehe :)
I don't regard them as a way to find women for real sex.
I have bedded cam girls but not through sitting online & paying them money then begging them for a date. The girls I have had sex with just happened to be cam girls, as well as, or in addition to, other entertainment industry jobs.
Some are students who have not been bar girls, most are bar girls or ex bar girls. You may be surprised that many of the innocent little flowers on dating web sites are in the cam girl business or bar girls. ;)
Its ironical to be in bed pounding some tiny cutey for free & knowing that dopes are paying her good money to fantasise about it on a web cam.
Dating web sites are useful for picking up some new contacts if you're out of the country or need some new GF's in a hurry. I just register for 1 month only, pick up some new ones & then close the membership down. I would'nt fall in to the trap of spending endless hours pouring over dating sites. You can pick up honey's in the flesh in the phils so easy its laughable. Date In Asia web site is free & you will get so many enquiries you won't even have to look at the profiles to find one. (often abbreviated here as DIA)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
All the useful info that Amavida includes here is accurate, and has been posted previously. Thanks for the review.
What I wonder is if this hateful comment is really necessary:
"Its ironical to be in bed pounding some tiny cutey for free & knowing that dopes are paying her good money to fantasise about it on a web cam"
So, any "dopes" out there? I've never paid for cam, but I've also never thought of those who do as "dopes". I do rent porn, does that make me a dope.
As for hatefulness, please see the AV and X comments in the AC thread where AV and I have some gentelmanly disagreements.
Anyway, AV provides no specific details, and writes in plural as if he beds cam girls every weekend.
Has anyone met AV? Does he really live in the Philippines? I'm sorry if I sound antagonistic, but red flags start unfurling almost every time I read an AV post.
And, I'll be in Cebu Monday if anyone wants to meet up.
X Man
Hi Wazza,
I saw these questions from you about cam girls & thought Id throw in my experiences.
Cam girls are an interesting side show to the main event or useful if you're far from the phils & need some ... ah... philippina style relaxation... hehehe :)
I don't regard them as a way to find women for real sex.
I have bedded cam girls but not through sitting online & paying them money then begging them for a date. The girls I have had sex with just happened to be cam girls, as well as, or in addition to, other entertainment industry jobs.
Some are students who have not been bar girls, most are bar girls or ex bar girls. You may be surprised that many of the innocent little flowers on dating web sites are in the cam girl business or bar girls. ;)
Its ironical to be in bed pounding some tiny cutey for free & knowing that dopes are paying her good money to fantasise about it on a web cam.
Dating web sites are useful for picking up some new contacts if you're out of the country or need some new GF's in a hurry. I just register for 1 month only, pick up some new ones & then close the membership down. I would'nt fall in to the trap of spending endless hours pouring over dating sites. You can pick up honey's in the flesh in the phils so easy its laughable. Date In Asia web site is free & you will get so many enquiries you won't even have to look at the profiles to find one. (often abbreviated here as DIA)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Yea, I guess there are different kinds of bravery. I have to give her points for creativity
And that's the crux, good looking woman who are sometimes dull vs. Fugly women who have a lot of chat.
Am a coward XMan am in this case am proud to admit it :D
... I'm sorry if I sound antagonistic...
X Man
Yes you do.
In other threads you passed off your ridicule as humour.
Now you step it up, questioning my credibility.
I noticed in the last day or two I suddenly started receiving pm's from newly registered users requesting personal information about me & details of women I have mentioned in posts. Hmmm, coincidence?
I think of these forums as like a bar, a bunch of guys sitting around passing info & expressing opinions.
Your antagonism is like walking into a bar & picking a fight over nothing.
In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
I'll ignore further trolling from you in future, life is too short.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Essential dating site mongering tools :
Cell phone + Phils sim card
Yahoo account
Viagra
:) Joke, joke.
Just thought I would mention that one of my GF's has just told me that you can now get a sim card from Smart that is enabled for roaming for 70php. 1php for local txt's & 20php for txt's when out of the country. I guess Globe does the same thing but Im too lazy to go check.
This could be helpful for mongers who wish to stay in touch with GF's when back in their home country.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Essential dating site mongering tools :
Cell phone + Phils sim card
Yahoo account
Viagra
:) Joke, joke.
Just thought I would mention that one of my GF's has just told me that you can now get a sim card from Smart that is enabled for roaming for 70php. 1php for local txt's & 20php for txt's when out of the country. I guess Globe does the same thing but Im too lazy to go check.
This could be helpful for mongers who wish to stay in touch with GF's when back in their home country.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
hi,
you need 100 p load for smart. You can easily do that when u leave the country at the airport. You can buy prepaid load at the mashines, bt you need pesos for that. TXT ROAM to 333 and wait, after a while your cp get ready for roaming.
Note: after you txt ROAM and your cp is on roaming you cant load any more, you need to send another txt to call ROAMING off.
It said it needs to be at least one hour time before leaving the country to apply for roaming. My experience after some minutes I send my txt evrything was ok.
Like AV says, its nice to play tricks on the gurls, they dont know if you in or out of the country.it will allways show your PI number :D
Happy txting
Blink
Essential dating site mongering tools :
Cell phone + Phils sim card
Yahoo account
Viagra
:) Joke, joke.
Just thought I would mention that one of my GF's has just told me that you can now get a sim card from Smart that is enabled for roaming for 70php. 1php for local txt's & 20php for txt's when out of the country. I guess Globe does the same thing but Im too lazy to go check.
This could be helpful for mongers who wish to stay in touch with GF's when back in their home country.
Happy Mongering,
AmavidaI have a roaming SMART SIM for over a year Amavida,just make sure you keep getting it topped up by someone in-country,as you said,invaluable!
hi,
you need 100 p load for smart. You can easily do that when u leave the country at the airport. You can buy prepaid load at the mashines, bt you need pesos for that. TXT ROAM to 333 and wait, after a while your cp get ready for roaming.
Note: after you txt ROAM and your cp is on roaming you cant load any more, you need to send another txt to call ROAMING off.
It said it needs to be at least one hour time before leaving the country to apply for roaming. My experience after some minutes I send my txt evrything was ok.
Like AV says, its nice to play tricks on the gurls, they dont know if you in or out of the country.it will allways show your PI number :D
Happy txting
Blink
Slight correction to above: you can still reload while you are roaming, you just have to do it via text message and you must have at least 100p in your account. Take some 300p load cards with you, you can usually activate them anytime before the expiration date shown on the card. Once you activate a 300p card, its load is good for 60 days so take care to load again before the 60 days are up, then you can do reload yourself. You could use smaller cards, but they expire a lot faster, and at 20p per outgoing text while you roam, you will use them up quickly.
Don't query your balance too often, that is also treated as an outgoing message for which you are charged. Just keep track of how many texts you sent since your last load.
If you get below 100p, you need to get your account back over 100p within the day or you will lose your ability to send out texts. If that happens, you will need someone in the PI to buy load for you and send it to your phone.
To reload, send a text message "RELOAD <PIN>" to 1510. More detailed directions can be found at the Smart website.
Slight correction to above: you can still reload while you are roaming, you just have to do it via text message and you must have at least 100p in your account. Take some 300p load cards with you, you can usually activate them anytime before the expiration date shown on the card. Once you activate a 300p card, its load is good for 60 days so take care to load again before the 60 days are up, then you can do reload yourself. You could use smaller cards, but they expire a lot faster, and at 20p per outgoing text while you roam, you will use them up quickly.
Don't query your balance too often, that is also treated as an outgoing message for which you are charged. Just keep track of how many texts you sent since your last load.
If you get below 100p, you need to get your account back over 100p within the day or you will lose your ability to send out texts. If that happens, you will need someone in the PI to buy load for you and send it to your phone.
To reload, send a text message "RELOAD <PIN>" to 1510. More detailed directions can be found at the Smart website.
yes korek,
I had to txt to call raoming off and then I load again while calling 1510 plus the code on the prepaid card. If you alllready on roam in the Phils you cant do it that way, you need to txt.
BTW I once made mistake, shy to tell here :D, once I arrived in PI, freshly showerd , first thing was to buy simcard and load for my cp. I tried many times to send load to 1510 but it doesnt worked...guess why....I had to change my cp to SEND NUMBER, it was still on HIDE UR OWN NUMBER, you cant load if ur number cant be seen...you also cant make phone calls with your cp if you HIDE ur number, funny, maybe its about security reasons, so many scams in PI lol....anybody can answer on that???
Happy roaming
Blink
Good info Blink and Finrod, thanks!
Does the same procedure work for Globe as well?
Good info Blink and Finrod, thanks!
Does the same procedure work for Globe as well?
yes,
same same but not same. Globe has the same service, but Im not familar with GLOBE, cause Im with smart...
I think for more info we should ask "one of Amavidas GF" LOL,,same as we should ask her about stockexchnage info, real estate..etc LOL..sorry.. but seldem ask a chick about anything then if she is avaible for tonight.
Of course there are exceptions to be made :D
Xmen you liked my joke? LOL...
Amavida, sorry I cant hold that back, but I know you take things easy...just want to resfresh ths thread a bit and please guys, chill out,we all grown ups
Xmen like to do precise and explicit postings/reports with good background info and has a good humor, sometimes abit harsh but thats ok for me and I gues Amavida is just allwas happpy cause he lives in the Philippines, di ba?? I think there is also an little age gap between them I rember when I was at AV age (15years fresh and young stud now im only a stud ) LOL ok, hope we can have all a good time here and get good reports and good info from all.
Happy reporting
Blink
HornyGeorge
02-22-08, 21:55
Even AT&T only charges 25cents for international texts from my iphone! A BETTER option is ipipi.com which charges only 10cents to send text messages to cellphones in PI. Also, they cannot get your cell number to text you back at inopportune moments.
AT&T has a package of 100 international texts for $10 or 10cents each also.
SMART is DREADFUL: ; I hate them almost as I hate Philippine Airlines. REAL cell carriers are trying to break in to the PI market but the rule only allowing foreign companies to own 40% of assets in PI prevents it from happening. SMART & GLOBE are too powerful to let their co monopoly be ruined by real competition.
I just find it curious that you spend so much time in the Philippines, and post so often, but your information doesn't seem very original.
I hope you prove me wrong.
X
And for the record, I have only one account at ISG.
Yes you do.
In other threads you passed off your ridicule as humour.
Now you step it up, questioning my credibility.
I noticed in the last day or two I suddenly started receiving pm's from newly registered users requesting personal information about me & details of women I have mentioned in posts. Hmmm, coincidence?
I think of these forums as like a bar, a bunch of guys sitting around passing info & expressing opinions.
Your antagonism is like walking into a bar & picking a fight over nothing.
In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
I'll ignore further trolling from you in future, life is too short.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Girlfinder
02-23-08, 07:06
Try chikka.com, this is free to send sms from internet to the girls. And the girls pay only 2.5 peso to answer to the internet account.
By far the best whatsoever to keep at instant touch with the lovely girls, even back at home :)
Towelboy2010
02-23-08, 07:12
Gentlemen, I have seen a number of reports on cell phone use in the Philippines. However I am still unclear on it all.
I got off the phone tonight with Verizon Wireless. My new LG 8700 will not work in the Philippines because of technology differences. However, Verizon is happy to supply me with a global phone free of charge. The global phone still uses my USA number & line. All I have to pay for is the airtime or text messages.
However, cost is part of the dilemma. Calls are an astronomical $2.50 per minute, so I won't be talking to anyone. Text messages are 5¢ to receive and 50¢ to send. I can live with that.
However, in speaking with some local ladies I plan to meet, they tell me it is 25 pesos for them to text my phone internationally and they consider that expensive.
One girl suggested I buy a phone, but she said they cost 3000pesos ($75). I can't see any reason to spend $75 on a phone when mine is free. And $75 is alot of text messages.
I guess the ONE benefit of using the Global phone is I won't have to worry about any bar girls sending me constant text messages.... as I have heard some complain about that. But I also don't want some bar babe not texting me if I want her to because of the 25 peso cost.
To clarify, I am on a mixed mission on this upcoming trip. I am meeting about 8 girls to see if I can find one for a serious relationship. However I have also built some "fun time" into the equation. Probably 2 nites at LA Cafe and 2 nights in Angeles.
If I buy (or rent?) a phone locally for the week I am there, what are the realistic costs for the week?
Advice? Suggestions?
Thanks, Bob
GoodEnough
02-23-08, 07:59
You can go into any pawn shop or used phone store--and there seem to be thousands of them--and buy a basic phone for $10-15 and then for another few dollars buy a local sim card which will give you a local number. You can then "charge" it as you need call time. A cell phone here is a must since texting is the basic form of communication. The problem with using your US phone is that most girls will not be able to afford to text you, so it's sort of self-defeating. Too bad that the US and Japan don't join the rest of the world by adopting the same technology.
Hello Towelboy,
GE has the right idea but the quality of some of the used cell phones I have seen for sale in the PI is laughable. Since you have a few weeks before your trip, try buying one on Ebay. Do a search for a used, unlocked GSM cp (I have seen them for as little as $25). There are many reputable companies on Ebay that will ship it to you in a few days, with a warranty. Then you can give it to your honey ko upon your departure. You can bring your global phone along in case of an emergency back home.
Btw, do you think two nights in AC is enough?
hi,
you need 100 p load for smart. You can easily do that when u leave the country at the airport. You can buy prepaid load at the mashines, bt you need pesos for that. TXT ROAM to 333 and wait, after a while your cp get ready for roaming.
Note: after you txt ROAM and your cp is on roaming you cant load any more, you need to send another txt to call ROAMING off.
It said it needs to be at least one hour time before leaving the country to apply for roaming. My experience after some minutes I send my txt evrything was ok.
Like AV says, its nice to play tricks on the gurls, they dont know if you in or out of the country.it will allways show your PI number :D
Happy txting
Blink
Thx Blink!
If u wanna go high tech, another option is to get a skype account. When u apply for an account use ur phils cp # as the user name. Now when u send a txt through skype the girls see the phils cp # as the caller id & assumes ur in the phils. This works almost all countries (except china & us if i recall correctly).
Skype if somebody does'nt know is voice calls over the internet cheap & also txt'ing over the internet cheap. If you have a 3g cp u get even trickier by placing skype call's/tst's through ur cp to the internet & then to the destination country phone system. Are your eyes spinning yet? heheh :)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
How are you, Blink?
Many thanks for your most enlightening and comprehensive reply.I will take your advice on board and investigate the possibility of another alternative way to seek that ever elusive pussy. When I have the opportunity I will try these cam chat sites.
The impossible is often the untried.
Notanocker
02-23-08, 13:55
XMan: In Australian slang, an 'ocker' is someone who is a bit 'basic' (perhaps 'lower class') and who speaks with a broad Australian accent; he or she speaks what has been humorously called 'strine' (Australian): have a look on the Internet for a 1960s classic book of comedy by 'Afferbeck Lauder' (that is 'Strine' for 'Alphabetical Order' - it's a take on how it sounds when it comes out of the mouth of an 'Ocker.') An 'Ocker' might say 'Crikey!' as the now deceased Crocodile Man, Steve Irwin did! So if I am 'notanocker', hopefully I am well spoken using British (not horrible American) English, better educated than average and less uncouth without necessarily being what an 'Ocker' would call a 'wanker' (a snob, as in 'wank' meaning 'verbal masturbation' - of course, that is for others like you to judge, XMan. 'Did not front' means 'did not turn up or arrive at the designated meeting point' (turn up at all, in this case): this seems obvious from the context in which I have used it. Apologies for rare this off topic post but the very informative and pleasant XMan did ask: I assume he is not Australian!
What do you mean by laughable? The 1100 peso Nokio phone I bought on Colon St., Cebu two years ago still works and is now sold for 800 pesos.
I wonder what women think when they see my phone. They never ask. And if they have a phone it's light years ahead of my PI phone. I do get annoyed at the limit of in messages.....but considering I'm the type who can't throw anything away, this adds a little bit of sense to my life. Not throwing things away can be environmentally friendly too....my current X phone in X land is way out of date...to the point that it's a conversation starter.
Fk materialism.
x
Hello Towelboy,
GE has the right idea but the quality of some of the used cell phones I have seen for sale in the PI is laughable. Since you have a few weeks before your trip, try buying one on Ebay. Do a search for a used, unlocked GSM cp (I have seen them for as little as $25). There are many reputable companies on Ebay that will ship it to you in a few days, with a warranty. Then you can give it to your honey ko upon your departure. You can bring your global phone along in case of an emergency back home.
Btw, do you think two nights in AC is enough?
Thx Blink!
If u wanna go high tech, another option is to get a skype account. When u apply for an account use ur phils cp # as the user name. Now when u send a txt through skype the girls see the phils cp # as the caller id & assumes ur in the phils. This works almost all countries (except china & us if i recall correctly).
Skype if somebody does'nt know is voice calls over the internet cheap & also txt'ing over the internet cheap. If you have a 3g cp u get even trickier by placing skype call's/tst's through ur cp to the internet & then to the destination country phone system. Are your eyes spinning yet? heheh :)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
hmmm,
I use voipcheap.com,it works very good, 0,05cent Euro to connect and then 0,08 cent per minute per call to a mobile cellphone in the Philippines.If i calll to US or within europen countries its free....yes...also for some asian countries, they have promos, check their website!! I also know skype and I will try that, Im out of the country now....how much the gurl pays if she reply my txt??? same like PI?? 1 piso?That would be cool, I like to play tricks on gurls and I sometimes dont like to know people wether Im in or out of the country...keep a low profile as a foreign resident, or else you will find yourself on channel 2 news :D
Thanks for the info....
happy skyping
Blink
Thanks for the English lesson.
What do you mean "horrible American"? Wanker!
X
XMan: In Australian slang, an 'ocker' is someone who is a bit 'basic' (perhaps 'lower class') and who speaks with a broad Australian accent; he or she speaks what has been humorously called 'strine' (Australian): have a look on the Internet for a 1960s classic book of comedy by 'Afferbeck Lauder' (that is 'Strine' for 'Alphabetical Order' - it's a take on how it sounds when it comes out of the mouth of an 'Ocker.') An 'Ocker' might say 'Crikey!' as the now deceased Crocodile Man, Steve Irwin did! So if I am 'notanocker', hopefully I am well spoken using British (not horrible American) English, better educated than average and less uncouth without necessarily being what an 'Ocker' would call a 'wanker' (a snob, as in 'wank' meaning 'verbal masturbation' - of course, that is for others like you to judge, XMan. 'Did not front' means 'did not turn up or arrive at the designated meeting point' (turn up at all, in this case): this seems obvious from the context in which I have used it. Apologies for rare this off topic post but the very informative and pleasant XMan did ask: I assume he is not Australian!
Girlfinder
02-23-08, 18:44
Gentlemen, I have seen a number of reports on cell phone use in the Philippines. However I am still unclear on it all.....
Advice? Suggestions?Thanks, BobI would not spend time on this, and would not spend my money on the phone companies, I dont think they need more...
Follow the experienced guys; buy a cp in Phils - u get a used one for 1500peso or less in the shopping malls when u arrive there, test it before you buy so you are satisfied. Then get a globe or smart card for 100 peso, and another 100 peso give you 100 sms's. I normally use a lot more in a single week.
And this phone you can use also in the rest of the world, all over :)
- oh, except USA and Japan according another guy here....
Girlfinder
02-23-08, 18:56
,..you also cant make phone calls with your cp if you HIDE ur number, funny, maybe its about security reasons, so many scams in PI lol....anybody can answer on that???Happy roaming. Blink
Hi there, I checked this before and this is required by the Philippines law. The caller must identify his number, so you cannot hide your number. If you have to hide, the only options seems to be to call from an international phone or internet phone (Yahoo, Skype and more)
SergeantRay
02-23-08, 19:56
I agree with Good Enough that a simple cell phone is fine. I get refurbished/used one for about 15-20 at a phone shop in Colon. I don't need the bells and whistles, just something small enough to fit in my pocket.
Once I have a girlfriend lined up I don't really need the phone anymore.
Good summary GF. Let me add stuff. You need phone (+ charger)/ SIM card / load.
SIM card (thumbnail size IC chip) has the phone no. and the memory and you can buy a second one if you need to disappear for some reason. I think these will expire if you don't load them for six + months.
The load is your phone bill -- kind of debit card style. The cards are good for a year so I usually buy an extra one before my trip to X land. Then, next arrival I scratch off to reveal the code, I'm Globe so I call 223, you will hear recorded insturctions, input the code on the card. Back in business. Oh, if you're 40+ like me, make sure you have your reading glasses ready to input the code. Pain in the arse.
Go buy a used phone at a shop or kiosk with a cute lass - she will set everything up, let them teach you, how to use the phone AND MAKE SURE you get her number. Tell her, "you're the first one in my new phone".
If you have a steady girl, try to get same system as her: Globe or SMart.
I'm NOT smart. Duh. Get it?
X
I would not spend time on this, and would not spend my money on the phone companies, I dont think they need more...
Follow the experienced guys; buy a cp in Phils - u get a used one for 1500peso or less in the shopping malls when u arrive there, test it before you buy so you are satisfied. Then get a globe or smart card for 100 peso, and another 100 peso give you 100 sms's. I normally use a lot more in a single week.
And this phone you can use also in the rest of the world, all over :)
- oh, except USA and Japan according another guy here....
Hi there, I checked this before and this is required by the Philippines law. The caller must identify his number, so you cannot hide your number. If you have to hide, the only options seems to be to call from an international phone or internet phone (Yahoo, Skype and more)
GF I have an Aussie cell phone enabled for roaming. Even when I set the handset to "Hide my caller ID" the call/txt receivers in Phils still see the caller I.D. Can be handy though as many mongers may realise, sending a txt from your non PI CP can be handy way of pretending to be overseas when ur in fact still in PI. Can be expensive but invaluable when used with care!
As you say, Configuring your Yahoo account to sign in to a certain cell phone number is a way of spoofing your Caller I.D.
To anyone who does'nt know : Outgoing Instant messages sent through your Yahoo on a computer account 'appear' to be coming from that cell phone. You do have to be in the country of the SIM card to initially set it up on Yahoo but after that it will work anywhere. For Instance in Australia Telstra, Optus & Vodafone all support Yahoo Instant messaging by SMS.
Be careful though, if you have verbose a chat mate & 'sign out' to your SMS, you may get a big phone bill because you are charged for incoming IM/SMS messages (at least in Australia). Cost? I think its 2php for PI senders & 20php for Australian to receive or send (Its a monopoly telco). The girls love to be able to SMS u at low cost when you are out of the country, or supposed to be hehehe :)
Before leaving Phils you can do the same thing with a locall phils SIM card so that when you send a Yahoo IM from your computer you appear to be sending from your Phils cp even when overseas. Just remember _NOT_ to sign out of yahoo on SMS or you have IM's going to the real Phils CP.
Besides spoofing ID & low cost another overlooked benefit is all your messages reside in your Yahoo chat message archive on the computer, nothing incriminating is on your cp.
As mentioned before you can create a skype account using ur phils cp # as user name. This is a simple way to spoof caller id when calling/txt'ing through skype from anywhere in the world to Phils receivers.
I love to keep them guessing. Also very handy way to cover your tracks when you are in places you're not supposed to be... hehehe :)
Happy sneaking!
Amavida
Thanks for the English lesson.
What do you mean "horrible American"? Wanker!
X
Very tense Mr X Man, very very tense!
I think you need to relax a little uh?
The actual quote was "am well spoken using British (not horrible American) English". You misquoted him & used it as another excuse to ridicule somebody. To an aussie or pom, american english sounds odd as Im sure their english sounds odd to an american. Everyone knows this, big deal!
You often seem to misunderstand colloquial english, are you a native english speaker? Or is this just an excuse to keep incrementing your post count?
Whatever the reason I think your name calling is a bit over the top eh?
We're all here to enjoy our hobby ok? Relax!
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Towelboy2010
02-25-08, 04:21
I am meeting 8 NON-bar girls during my nine day stay in March.
Any suggestions for good gifts to bring from the USA?
Thanks, Bob
Are craig's list girls trustworthy?
Any monger has good or bad experience with these girls?
I am meeting 8 NON-bar girls during my nine day stay in March.
Any suggestions for good gifts to bring from the USA?
Thanks, BobChocolates Mate,and victoria secrets bra-and-pantie sets,I fly in 11 hours time for a five week vacation and to buy a house, my bag is packed to the gunnells with such pasalubong.
I am meeting 8 NON-bar girls during my nine day stay in March.
Any suggestions for good gifts to bring from the USA?
Thanks, BobHi Bob,
Maybe you can bring some small cheap bottles of perfume perhaps you can buy them from the markets. I always buy the girls perfume and it goes down well.
have a great trip.
Notanocker
02-26-08, 10:56
Delbert, you are 'on the right tram; when you suggest 'chocolates' but may I qualify iyt by saying 'CADBURY chocolates' because most people in urban Philippines know about Cadbury. Most local Cadbury blocks and bars seem to come from either Australia (where I live) or Malaysia. I appreciate that Cadbury may be difficult to obtain in the US but from my experience, American brands like Hersheys are not favoured by Filipinas, just as many British, Australians and New Zealanders similarly don't like the taste of Hershey's chocolates: too artificial compared to Cadbury. Blocks of course are far better value per 100 grams than bars, and can be carried in one's checked luggage, wrapped further if you want to guarantee against melting.
Are craig's list girls trustworthy?
Any monger has good or bad experience with these girls?Hi Sammon,
Having read some other Boards, I have seen negative comments concerning Craigslist (Personnals). When a girl places an ad she may receive some replies, she could even be receiving money from some men. A few intelligent guys who are actually gullible enough to send these girls money. It would be apparent that these men are thinking with the little head and not the big one. Some Filipina scams are more successful than the Nigerian ones and this is a clear demonstration of the power of the pussy. A lot of foreign men listen to and believe the heart-breaking stories of the Filipinas, you know, the usual, house burnt down,mother very sick, caribou became bakla(gay) and needs operation, no money for rice and so on. The guy starts sending $100 which he considers is not a lot of money. Eventually,the money sent increases as the man is further sucked into the girl's web of deceit.
You must treat these dating sites with the utmost caution. There have been instances where the pictures on these sites are fake not a girl but actually a guy posing as a girl. There are some desperate people on these sites who are con artists.
Fore-warned is fore-armed.
All the best and stay safe.
Helllo,
Im doing myspace today, goin back next month to the Phils and need some new contacts..fresh....I had account allready there but havent logged in long time..Now Im browsing and can say many many stunners...if I go on like this I could easily contact 100 gurls :D..
anybody succeed in that? Any info to share??
Myspace is a site like friendster....non pay...
Happpy hunting
PS
dont send money, buy yourself a new cellphone, much better :D.many fish in the water
Bilbo Baggins
02-28-08, 12:08
Delbert, you are 'on the right tram; when you suggest 'chocolates' but may I qualify iyt by saying 'CADBURY chocolates' because most people in urban Philippines know about Cadbury. Most local Cadbury blocks and bars seem to come from either Australia (where I live) or Malaysia. I appreciate that Cadbury may be difficult to obtain in the US but from my experience, American brands like Hersheys are not favoured by Filipinas, just as many British, Australians and New Zealanders similarly don't like the taste of Hershey's chocolates: too artificial compared to Cadbury. Blocks of course are far better value per 100 grams than bars, and can be carried in one's checked luggage, wrapped further if you want to guarantee against melting.
I recently bought 2 kilos of cadbury's with me no problems with melting in the places I've been. I notice they sell it here and the gold wrapped ones taste different not as nice as Australian but... I bought a silver wrapped block in a special section in the supermarket and tried it today and I think it tastes the same as home but some lass ate all my supply when i wasnt looking so i cant compare anymore.
They do love it!
Helllo,
Im doing myspace today, goin back next month to the Phils and need some new contacts..fresh....I had account allready there but havent logged in long time..Now Im browsing and can say many many stunners...if I go on like this I could easily contact 100 gurls :D..
anybody succeed in that? Any info to share??
Myspace is a site like friendster....non pay...
Happpy hunting
PS
dont send money, buy yourself a new cellphone, much better :D.many fish in the water
Hi Blink, I can confirm that Myspace, Friendster, Ringo & Tagged are all places where pinay's hunt us. For example a girl asked me to put an account on Tagged 6 weeks ago & I got about 100+ people all wishing to be 'friends'. All pinays, 18-35 year old. Many very nice ones & easy to get phone numbers for meeting if you say you are going to be there in their town soon.
The nice ting about these social networking sites is you can look at the friends of a friend & find stunners quite by accident.
I've even found that if you sit on the chat window of your Skype account for very long you start to get hit on by chicks but it seems to be Chinese hunting there. I've had some real honey chinese chicks chat me up on skype video calls (they call me at their own expense) & push hard to become GF. Although Im quite partial to bonking chinese women Im not interested in going to China so i let them slide.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
I recently bought 2 kilos of cadbury's with me no problems with melting in the places I've been. I notice they sell it here and the gold wrapped ones taste different not as nice as Australian but... I bought a silver wrapped block in a special section in the supermarket and tried it today and I think it tastes the same as home but some lass ate all my supply when i wasnt looking so i cant compare anymore.
They do love it!
They love those gold coin chocolates also.
These are great to hand out & cheap :)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Hi Blink, I can confirm that Myspace, Friendster, Ringo & Tagged are all places where pinay's hunt us. For example a girl asked me to put an account on Tagged 6 weeks ago & I got about 100+ people all wishing to be 'friends'. All pinays, 18-35 year old. Many very nice ones & easy to get phone numbers for meeting if you say you are going to be there in their town soon.
The nice ting about these social networking sites is you can look at the friends of a friend & find stunners quite by accident.
I've even found that if you sit on the chat window of your Skype account for very long you start to get hit on by chicks but it seems to be Chinese hunting there. I've had some real honey chinese chicks chat me up on skype video calls (they call me at their own expense) & push hard to become GF. Although Im quite partial to bonking chinese women Im not interested in going to China so i let them slide.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Hi,
I love my new Nokia 6500, its solid made, a bit heavy, that swhy I decide to buy Samsung U600...I buy that from the money I save now LOL..
Myspace successquota is now 25% to 35% from all the gurls I send messages...and they all look hot..
when I chat gurls on sites I dont even invest any money any more..just tell them I live on site and lookin for a GF....Imback in my country to get sme things done and be back to the Philippines next month.
I feel like one of those depressed housewifes...I surf the net and buy things , hahahaha...aside from that I collect contacts...
My filipina fren gave me that idea today while we chat on ym, she showed me one gurl she has been chattin on myspace...the gurl wasfrom AC and was telling her how many boyfriend she got from myspace :D
Good to know that myspace works on both directions... guys looking for non or semi pro gurls and gurls lookin for a sugardaddy, pass time BF or pontential husband/boyfriend on site.
Allways rember, they need us and if one doesnt like you there is anoter one right at the next corner waiting for you :)
Happy surfing!!!
Blink
Oddly, I had a Cebu Mango bargirl give the the 'House burnt' story in my hotel room. She's been the the bar biz for at least three months, and must know that I'm a player, but she still gave me that line. Duh.
She brought along her sis, and she suggested a 3some, but the sister wasn't going for it. I did try though.
Knowing she is mercenary, I lowballed on the tip (no barfine as I had her phone number from two months earlier). She complained...."blah, blah, blah, I have to buy wood."
I gave her a few hundred more and out the door she went.
Pictures to follow...
Hi Sammon,
Having read some other Boards, I have seen negative comments concerning Craigslist (Personnals). When a girl places an ad she may receive some replies, she could even be receiving money from some men. A few intelligent guys who are actually gullible enough to send these girls money. It would be apparent that these men are thinking with the little head and not the big one. Some Filipina scams are more successful than the Nigerian ones and this is a clear demonstration of the power of the pussy. A lot of foreign men listen to and believe the heart-breaking stories of the Filipinas, you know, the usual, house burnt down,mother very sick, caribou became bakla(gay) and needs operation, no money for rice and so on. The guy starts sending $100 which he considers is not a lot of money. Eventually,the money sent increases as the man is further sucked into the girl's web of deceit.
You must treat these dating sites with the utmost caution. There have been instances where the pictures on these sites are fake not a girl but actually a guy posing as a girl. There are some desperate people on these sites who are con artists.
Fore-warned is fore-armed.
All the best and stay safe.
... A lot of foreign men listen to and believe the heart-breaking stories of the Filipinas, you know, the usual, house burnt down,mother very sick, caribou became bakla(gay) and needs operation, no money for rice and so on. The guy starts sending $100 which he considers is not a lot of money. Eventually,the money sent increases as the man is further sucked into the girl's web of deceit.
Obviously its insanity to send money to someone you never met.
The hard part about these scams is they closely mirror real life. If you have ever had a pinay GF or wife u will know that the family's are always hitting on her with requests for help with medical/housing etc dramas.
In my experience, the more serious a girl is about you the less she will burden you with these. The less serious she is about you the less shy & more bold she will be about asking for more, more, more.
You must treat these dating sites with the utmost caution. There have been instances where the pictures on these sites are fake not a girl but actually a guy posing as a girl.
You get girls doing amateur scamming, often bar girls.
You also get family's doing scams. I had the unexpected pleasure of popping a cherry girl of 18 in Manila late last year that I had met from Cherry Blossoms. Her scam was to meet me with her 'Uncle' (which she did) & talk marriage (which she did). Afterwards she hit me up for money for books etc. I caught her out with the assistance of Wicked Rodger in running the same line past many guys all at the same time. Getting her cherry popped was not in her game plan so I got away with an unexpected bonus :)
IMHO Cherry Blossoms is bad for scammers.
There are also many total fakes run by the local version of the mafia. This exists in all countries. Ever googled about the russian bride scammers? Rampant!
I dont get all bitter & twisted about scams, we mongers lie our heads off to girls all the time so what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Sensible Mongering
Amavida
Hi,
I love my new Nokia 6500, its solid made, a bit heavy, that swhy I decide to buy Samsung U600...I buy that from the money I save now LOL..
Myspace successquota is now 25% to 35% from all the gurls I send messages...and they all look hot..
when I chat gurls on sites I dont even invest any money any more..just tell them I live on site and lookin for a GF....Imback in my country to get sme things done and be back to the Philippines next month.
I feel like one of those depressed housewifes...I surf the net and buy things , hahahaha...aside from that I collect contacts...
My filipina fren gave me that idea today while we chat on ym, she showed me one gurl she has been chattin on myspace...the gurl wasfrom AC and was telling her how many boyfriend she got from myspace :D
Good to know that myspace works on both directions... guys looking for non or semi pro gurls and gurls lookin for a sugardaddy, pass time BF or pontential husband/boyfriend on site.
Allways rember, they need us and if one doesnt like you there is anoter one right at the next corner waiting for you :)
Happy surfing!!!
Blink
How is the U700 now Blink? I quite like the samsung phones coz they are so thin & easy to carry & easy to use.
Here is an example of what you can pick up in the non pro 'looking for sugardaddy' line of girls from the net. The one in the middle is a GF. She is 18, gave me her cherry & screws me legless every time Im with her. Im very happy to be her sugardaddy. :)
In getting to know her & her friends you would be staggered at how many of these innocent little flower school girls are being banged by foreigner boyfriends... they start early I tell ya!!
Happy Sugardaddying
Amavida
I was chatting online to two girls in AC when the girl sitting behind them ask one of them for their id, the guy she was chatting with thought she was a good sort.
Kind of feel sorry for the poor girl who had to ask to girl sitting behind her for her id, to give to a guy she was chatting to. Not very classy on his part even if she was a bar girl.
i was chatting online to two girls in ac when the girl sitting behind them ask one of them for their id, the guy she was chatting with thought she was a good sort.
kind of feel sorry for the poor girl who had to ask to girl sitting behind her for her id, to give to a guy she was chatting to. not very classy on his part even if she was a bar girl.
hi,
maybe you new in this...and im also not aware what was really going on, but showing id (and you told here when the guy ask the gurl she gave her neighbours id not her own) has nothing to do if the gurl is a bargurl or what ever work she does in ac (actually ac is one big bar lol)
maybe he want to send money to her and need her korek name, or whats more important he want to see her age and adress, specially her age, most of them are ****.
yes its a hard world out there but dont feel sorry for strangers, feel sorry for your friends and your family, cause you know them. dont fall for soup stories and lies which most of them do, specially if they dont know you.
when im home and talk to some gurls i hear those stories evry day, well not now any more , cause they know if they start this bs before meeting me i just talk with somebody else. im not cold hearted, but i had to learn it the hard way.. i could have bought my own cellphone shop allready with the money i spend there lol.
ok, hope that helps
blink
ps it wasnt me, neither i think it was xmen, if it was xmen the gurl had to show him her income tax and social security card number lol joke :d
Gaijin Gigolo
03-09-08, 17:19
Gents,
First of all, thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm a regular poster on the Singapore board (and others whenever I travel) and am in need of some advice. I'm hoping I've dished out enough vital info by now to merit some in return. ;-)
I live in Singapore, I'm white, early 40's, no model but not bad looking either, so I've been told. I have a 7-9 days to spend on my own sometime over the next few months and plan to spend it making my first foray into the Philippines. Basically, I need some advice from some of you PI experts as to where I should spend my time in order to maximize my shagging prospects.
Obviously, I know Angeles City is considered sex central, but what I prefer is the temporary girlfriend type, non-pro or semi-pro cute, young girls who I'm able to pick up in malls, regular clubs and so forth. And by 'young girls' obviously I mean of legal age. I do have a thing for students part-timing it to pay their tuition though so I'd also need to know when school is in session and when it's not. And when and where are the best ways to get in touch with this sort of chick. I'm hitting up a few on Friendster and DateinAsia with some success already but finding a lot of those, perhaps most, are 'good girls' who, frankly, I don't have time to waste on courting since I'm going to be there only a short time.
I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country and probably would prefer to do this as opposed to staying in one place the entire week. I like variety and don't intend to stay with just one or two girls all week long. One or two new ones each day would suit me just fine. Obviously, I don't plan to see the whole country in a week, but I've gathered that I should at least visit Manila and Cebu or the Leyte area. And probably at least a night in Angeles just for the experience if time permits.
So then...before I start to ramble too much, suggestions please? Past comments from ISG that stick in my mind are 'the farther away from Angeles, the sweeter the girls are' and another comment about a university town not far from Cebu in Leyte (I think) just loaded with college girls hoping to get picked up. Ormoc City or Tacloban I think it was. Sounds like exactly what I'm after.
Again, thanks very much in advance!
Gaijin Gigolo
Gents,
First of all, thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm a regular poster on the Singapore board (and others whenever I travel) and am in need of some advice. I'm hoping I've dished out enough vital info by now to merit some in return. ;-)
I live in Singapore, I'm white, early 40's, no model but not bad looking either, so I've been told. I have a 7-9 days to spend on my own sometime over the next few months and plan to spend it making my first foray into the Philippines. Basically, I need some advice from some of you PI experts as to where I should spend my time in order to maximize my shagging prospects.
Obviously, I know Angeles City is considered sex central, but what I prefer is the temporary girlfriend type, non-pro or semi-pro cute, young girls who I'm able to pick up in malls, regular clubs and so forth. And by 'young girls' obviously I mean of legal age. I do have a thing for students part-timing it to pay their tuition though so I'd also need to know when school is in session and when it's not. And when and where are the best ways to get in touch with this sort of chick. I'm hitting up a few on Friendster and DateinAsia with some success already but finding a lot of those, perhaps most, are 'good girls' who, frankly, I don't have time to waste on courting since I'm going to be there only a short time.
I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country and probably would prefer to do this as opposed to staying in one place the entire week. I like variety and don't intend to stay with just one or two girls all week long. One or two new ones each day would suit me just fine. Obviously, I don't plan to see the whole country in a week, but I've gathered that I should at least visit Manila and Cebu or the Leyte area. And probably at least a night in Angeles just for the experience if time permits.
So then...before I start to ramble too much, suggestions please? Past comments from ISG that stick in my mind are 'the farther away from Angeles, the sweeter the girls are' and another comment about a university town not far from Cebu in Leyte (I think) just loaded with college girls hoping to get picked up. Ormoc City or Tacloban I think it was. Sounds like exactly what I'm after.
Again, thanks very much in advance!
Gaijin Gigolo
Hello GG! Welcome to the PI forums mate!
Someone like Xman with his seemingly encyclopedic knowledge could give you heaps of info. I'll try to make a humble contribution.
I guess you must realise that PI is a great place but dont expect Singaporean style efficiency. I say this because you only have a week & you dont want to waste pussy time sitting around in queues at airports etc.
Pinays have the usual aisan 'good girl' persona which overlays a very latin hot temperament. If you're going for NON P4P girls a little tact & patience is needed. A clean well dressed, well spoken guy will get a lot further than a culturally insensitive grub.
You are correct in assuming that the further you get from Manila, the more 'motivated' the girls are. Its less about money & more about getting a husband (& then money).
Having said that, I have to tell ya, there is so much pussy on tap in this country that GFE is available everywhere you go. Yes even in Angeles you will find lovely fresh girls just dyeing to get a 'nice guy' for a BF.
If you want to screw students with a minimum of courting then the university towns of Cebu or even Davao are happy hunting grounds. Cebu has the attraction that if you hit a dry spell there is plenty of P4P on tap as well.
A lot of guys go to Davao & hang around cafes frequented by after school crowds & pick 'em up like shooting fish in a barrel.
p.s. Weather : Mindanao is experiencing its normal monsoonal weather at the moment. Davao may be a lousy choice in that case. Dunno about Cebu but I suspect its pretty wet there also at the moment. Luzon is much drier.
p.p.s Vacation : My 18yr old JRU schoolie in Manila has just started a long semester break & gone back to the province. you may find a lot of them are on semester break at the moment meaning the schools/universities are pretty quiet right now.
Have a great time GG!
Happy Mongering
Amavida
With only one week, I would suggest to stay in one area. From Singapore you can fly direct into Cebu and this seems to fit the bill for what you want. Meet those online gals for lunch. You can usually get intimate with them by the second date -esp if they aren't virigin. And if things don't click, you can go the p4p route.
A wonderful and easy diversion from Cebu is the 90 minute Ocean Jet ride to Bohol. Take someone with you. Do a search for Panglao or Ahlona beach for more info.
I was in Cebu last week. As for the malls, I pulled one out of SM one afternoon, and also saw a really cute one at Robinsons Midtown. I had too much going on, but would have taken her in a heartbeat. About 15 min later she walked into my hotel with a customer. These were both p4p girls. I also met an absolute stunner at Robinosons, who was not p4p.
As for the stunner, she was in Cebu for work and didn't know the place well. So, we went to Fort San Pedro and St. Nino church, then a poolside drink at Waterfront, and then sunset on the mountain viewpoint which is called "tops". (800 pesos by taxi...the taxi will wait about an hour.) It get's cold up there so you have a perfect reason to cuddle. Finally dinner on roof of Holiday Plaza -- my room just three floors below.
I didn't get her gear off and it was my last night. She will be the first one I:ll call on my next trip though.
Back to your time limitation. I once had nine days and spent three days each in three locations: Manila, Cebu, Davao. I vowed to never do that again. I felt like I spend half my holiday doing the transit and check in/out hassle.
X
Gents,
First of all, thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm a regular poster on the Singapore board (and others whenever I travel) and am in need of some advice. I'm hoping I've dished out enough vital info by now to merit some in return. ;-)
I live in Singapore, I'm white, early 40's, no model but not bad looking either, so I've been told. I have a 7-9 days to spend on my own sometime over the next few months and plan to spend it making my first foray into the Philippines. Basically, I need some advice from some of you PI experts as to where I should spend my time in order to maximize my shagging prospects.
Obviously, I know Angeles City is considered sex central, but what I prefer is the temporary girlfriend type, non-pro or semi-pro cute, young girls who I'm able to pick up in malls, regular clubs and so forth. And by 'young girls' obviously I mean of legal age. I do have a thing for students part-timing it to pay their tuition though so I'd also need to know when school is in session and when it's not. And when and where are the best ways to get in touch with this sort of chick. I'm hitting up a few on Friendster and DateinAsia with some success already but finding a lot of those, perhaps most, are 'good girls' who, frankly, I don't have time to waste on courting since I'm going to be there only a short time.
I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country and probably would prefer to do this as opposed to staying in one place the entire week. I like variety and don't intend to stay with just one or two girls all week long. One or two new ones each day would suit me just fine. Obviously, I don't plan to see the whole country in a week, but I've gathered that I should at least visit Manila and Cebu or the Leyte area. And probably at least a night in Angeles just for the experience if time permits.
So then...before I start to ramble too much, suggestions please? Past comments from ISG that stick in my mind are 'the farther away from Angeles, the sweeter the girls are' and another comment about a university town not far from Cebu in Leyte (I think) just loaded with college girls hoping to get picked up. Ormoc City or Tacloban I think it was. Sounds like exactly what I'm after.
Again, thanks very much in advance!
Gaijin Gigolo
Hi Blink,
Sorry my mistake, I was talking about yahoo id so he can chat my girl up, it wasn't to do with sending money too her.
Coming from Australia the girls always asking me for Koala's, didn't see the harm in that until I found out they ask all Australians for Koala's.
Thai girls like Kangaroos, strange.
Fifty Fifty
03-13-08, 08:28
Excellent advice from X man, but if I may add the following to back it up:
With only one week, I would suggest to stay in one area. From Singapore you can fly direct into Cebu and this seems to fit the bill for what you want. Meet those online gals for lunch. You can usually get intimate with them by the second date -esp if they aren't virigin. And if things don't click, you can go the p4p route.
Agreed, good idea to go direct to Cebu, in my opinion the girls are as good as if not better than Manila and life is somewhat cheaper too.
Met a few online gals in the daytime, as soon as they didnt show a sign of coming across with the goods, ie a refusal to go back to my hotel etc, then it was out to the Mango St Bars for some P4P that night.
A wonderful and easy diversion from Cebu is the 90 minute Ocean Jet ride to Bohol. Take someone with you. Do a search for Panglao or Ahlona beach for more info.
Yep great place to go, but you must take a girl with you as there is very little or no action on the P4p front in TagB. Most Cebu Girls will jump at the chance to go there.
A good place to stay is Metro Central Hotel in centre of TagB it is 3 star at around $50 per night, not fantastic, but good enough to impress most girls.
Do day trips and the tourist thing, rent a car and driver for a day, the girls all love it too.
I was in Cebu last week. As for the malls, I pulled one out of SM one afternoon, and also saw a really cute one at Robinsons Midtown. I had too much going on, but would have taken her in a heartbeat. About 15 min later she walked into my hotel with a customer. These were both p4p girls. I also met an absolute stunner at Robinosons, who was not p4p.
Yep Cebu malls are confirmed as top notch for meeting and playing with non P4P, probably the same as most malls in Phils though. I found Ayala a bit sparse and mostly full of ''too expensive'' shops which seemed to keep the regular girls away. SM the best for choice and Robinsons confirmed as a known Pick-Up Point. Sit at Bo's Coffe and watch it all go by, if it smiles and you like it, then its yours!!!
Back to your time limitation. I once had nine days and spent three days each in three locations: Manila, Cebu, Davao. I vowed to never do that again. I felt like I spend half my holiday doing the transit and check in/out hassle. X
Agreed, we found that even spending a week in Makati then a week in Cebu combined with Bohol etc was time consuming on the travel side of things.
Recommend you go direct to Cebu, enjoy a few days in Bohol and write a FR telling us all about the fun you had. - enjoy :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Fifty (mall comments are about Cebu city)
Ayala is good for meeting up with women you already know, but I've never found it a good pick up place. I'm really sad that the little "Jap" bar closed down. That was such a cool place to sit, have a beer, and watch the candy walk by.
Robinsons Midtown is good for first time women you met in chat because it is so central to the jeepney routes. But if she is from Mandaue or Mactan, go for SM since it is closer for the girls. Another option is tell the lady to take a taxi and you will pay for it. This can easily save you a lot of time. Just be aware that if the woman doesn't have money she might expect you to meet her while she's still in the taxi so that you can pay for it. Well, that only happend once
If you have time, go to a mall that doesn't see many foreigners.
Fifty, why stay in the Metro Hotel in Tagbilaran? I went directly to Alona beach. I had a room right on the beach. I'd have been fish food if there had been a tsunami. Beach front room sure puts the ladies in the mood. I went twice, with two different ladies, and both times spend more time on the bed than on the beach.
X
HornyGeorge
03-13-08, 19:03
You go to Bohol for beaches yet stay in a port town? Unclear on the concept me thinks. Alona Beach is less than 45 minutes away, but if you want city attractions why bother with the boat ride to Bohol at all? Use the boat fare to get a nicer room in the city.
I also think a week is enough time to see two places since you are only flying 3 hours (from SIN). Cebu is gateway to Visayas and Mindanao, so you have your pick of loads of great beaches that are easily accessible from Cebu airport.
I find tops very overrated AND overpriced. In addition to the taxi fare, the entrance fee is 100 P per head I believe. So in toto you are talking $25 for an OK view (nice at sunset). And unless it is VERY CLEAR up on the mountain, it is a waste of time and money as there is NOTHING to do up there (other than ringing the bell which is no big deal).
The ladies eyes light up big if you surprise them with Toblerone Chocolate and the large Symphony by Hershey's. The bars only cost 1USD when on sale in the USA.
As far as dating sites, I have had the most luck with CB and FH in the past. They are about 25 usd a month. I have much better luck now that I mention I have visited the Philippines in the past. I just signed up for the free site DateinAsia, not bad for free, but has the most gays of anysite.
I hope to meet Nurses and also Phil/American mixed girls, but have no idea where to look for them.
I have hopes of visiting the country for 3 months this comming up trip. Now I am looking for good weekly rates so I can keep my cost down, but still be flexible if I want to take off to another location. Good Enough Has given me some good ideas for Davao, I am also looking for decent places in Mania and Cebu. Most of the travel websites do not offer weekle rates, only daily.
I also plan to buy a phone in Manila from a Smart dealer. They let you use the phone as a modem for your wireless computer. So basically you have internet access anywhere there is phone access. The cost is only 20 peso for 30 mins. This sounds almost to good to be true, and I have not seen a review of someone who has actually used the Smart wireless.
I should be in the Philipines starting in May for 3 months, if anyone want to meet up and share stories or ideas.
Fifty Fifty
03-14-08, 05:05
You go to Bohol for beaches yet stay in a port town? Unclear on the concept me thinks.
Did I mention beaches, Bohol has more than beaches and has many nice places to go to away from the cities.
Fifty, why stay in the Metro Hotel in Tagbilaran?
Cos its cheap, quite well appointed and a good base to travel from on day trips, yet enjoy some night life later in the day.
Guys there is more to the Phils than beaches, I happen to have a house on the beach in South UK, lived in Dubai for a long time and have an Apartment overlooking the beach in Kazakhstan - enough sand for me thanks !!!
Cheers F/Fifty
AussieOverboard
03-14-08, 06:40
i just have to share this story, i thought it was so funny i nearly wet my pants and not the good kind of pants wetting.
i was hanging out on the filipina magic (they get their feeds from acm i think) site checking out the rooms and seeing what kind of talent was there.
i came accross these 3 girls in the one session and started chatting with them. the girl in the middle looked so miserable but the other 2 were very friendly.
i asked tham abouht their show, what they did etc and thay came back with the standard answer "anything you want baby".
i started out by asking them if they would do all sorts of perverted things (deep anal, [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), etc etc) to the msiserable girl and they agreed they would.
so i asked them if i went private with them i wanted them to take the girl in the middle, strip her down then beat her with a stick, without batting an eyelash they replied sure.
so then i asked them to if they would take the girl and choke her untell she stopped breathing. once again no problem with that one.
the i ask them would they kill the miserable girl, chop her up and eat them. finally the girl who had been typing said no. she tells me that she needs 3 girls for the show so she could not do that. she then asks me if i am crazy,
by now i am laughing so much at the willingness to do just about anything and their reaction that i decide since they were such good sports with my proposals that i took them private.
when i get them there they ask me what i want, i told them nothing i just wanted to reward them for their putting up with my questions. finally the miserable one smiled.
anyway i think it was as funny as hell, you may not but i do have a warped sense of humor.
if you like that one let me know and i will tell you about the anal cam girl with her period.
john
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Holiday Plaza on Ramos (near midtown) is very good about storing baggage while you are island hopping.
X
The ladies eyes light up big if you surprise them with Toblerone Chocolate and the large Symphony by Hershey's. The bars only cost 1USD when on sale in the USA.
As far as dating sites, I have had the most luck with CB and FH in the past. They are about 25 usd a month. I have much better luck now that I mention I have visited the Philippines in the past. I just signed up for the free site DateinAsia, not bad for free, but has the most gays of anysite.
I hope to meet Nurses and also Phil/American mixed girls, but have no idea where to look for them.
I have hopes of visiting the country for 3 months this comming up trip. Now I am looking for good weekly rates so I can keep my cost down, but still be flexible if I want to take off to another location. Good Enough Has given me some good ideas for Davao, I am also looking for decent places in Mania and Cebu. Most of the travel websites do not offer weekle rates, only daily.
I also plan to buy a phone in Manila from a Smart dealer. They let you use the phone as a modem for your wireless computer. So basically you have internet access anywhere there is phone access. The cost is only 20 peso for 30 mins. This sounds almost to good to be true, and I have not seen a review of someone who has actually used the Smart wireless.
I should be in the Philipines starting in May for 3 months, if anyone want to meet up and share stories or ideas.
Cunning Stunt
03-14-08, 11:11
I also plan to buy a phone in Manila from a Smart dealer. They let you use the phone as a modem for your wireless computer. So basically you have internet access anywhere there is phone access. The cost is only 20 peso for 30 mins. This sounds almost to good to be true, and I have not seen a review of someone who has actually used the Smart wireless.Hi Bob,
The only prob being that most Philippine ISP's insist on a minimum contract (usually 12 months). Their service stinks as well. If you google a Pinoy ISP review sites you will be amused at the inventive vitriolic invective heaped on these ISP's particularly Globe, Smart and PLDT. Hope you have better luck and enjoy your time in the Philippines.
BTW have you or any other member had experience with the Philippine section of Adult Friend Finders? There seems to be an awful lot of cute looking pinays on there (and an equally large number of grannies and woofers). Is it rich pickings or a waste of time?
Wicked Roger
03-14-08, 18:46
Hi Bob,
BTW have you or any other member had experience with the Philippine section of Adult Friend Finders? There seems to be an awful lot of cute looking pinays on there (and an equally large number of grannies and woofers). Is it rich pickings or a waste of time?
Am a member of the site. Yes there are a few good ones there but an awful lot of dogs and ones where even a brown bag over your head would not be sufficient :D
But the real issue is that if you really want the better pickings you need to pay. So I use DIA and CB for some fun.
Am a member of the site. Yes there are a few good ones there but an awful lot of dogs and ones where even a brown bag over your head would not be sufficient :D
But the real issue is that if you really want the better pickings you need to pay. So I use DIA and CB for some fun.
Just for fun I went over & registered in Asian Friendfinder & Filipino Friendfinder. Got hits immediately in AFF. FFF nothin.
I got so many hits from DIA that i had to hide the profile!
YMMV
Cheers
Amavida
Wicked Roger
03-16-08, 03:05
I got so many hits from DIA that i had to hide the profile!
YMMV
Cheers
Amavida
DIA is great for hits but still the number of scammers is huge! However, here I am enjoying the pleasures of a CB girl (no longer a cherry - you would be proud Amavida) plus I have another 6 to see in the 2 days. Fancy quick trip to help a mate :D And yes as per your PM that will also happen......
All DIA, all hit up when I was coming Cebu, all keen and confirmed....what does a good man do? And the (ex) cherry CB girl currently lying in my bed wanting more...hard life mongering :D
Fancy quick trip to help a mate :D
Hehehehe :D very tempting offer WR!
Only trouble I got so many confirmed hits from DIA its all i can do to keep up!
Take care mate & happy mongering!
Amavida
Wicked Roger
03-16-08, 18:11
Hehehehe :D very tempting offer WR!
Only trouble I got so many confirmed hits from DIA its all i can do to keep up!
Take care mate & happy mongering!
Amavida
:D
My CB (now ex cherry) girl returns to the provinces tomorrow and I have 6 DIAs to follow up on in a day - so keeping it up will be the order of the day. Some will not play, some have indicated already they will such as:
Me: you know I am makulit (naughty)
DIA: yes I like makulit and I am
Me: so what shall we do when you come to my hotel room
DIA: I want ride on top
She is definitely coming and had 10 SMS from her today. But just in case I also have other plans. Failing all else, Mango St :)
DIA is less hassle I find, easier to get the girls to YM you as well as no restrictions apparently on sending email addresses.
Bilbo Baggins
03-18-08, 02:30
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David where ever you are please forgive cecelle its breaking my heart to hear her cry every night.
Ha, ha, that's pretty funny. I can't believe how insecure some guys are. I'm assuming he scolded her for updating her profile. My subscription has expired, or I would send her a message.
I had one girl who not only posted new pictures after I left, but used one of the pictures that I took. Was I offended? Was I jealous that she's still chatting with guys? NOT A BIT! In fact I hope you guys get in her pants as easily as I did.
Thanks for the post BB.
X
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David where ever you are please forgive cecelle its breaking my heart to hear her cry every night.
Recently I received a smile from a young lady. She was a buxom lass who with a big smile and I was happy to reply. After a few letters we moved to YM where I soon became concerned because she never seemed to have a cam. None the less she seemed quite nice, but I thought a touch too flirtatious as she recalled her time in her early 20's when she made money in several bikini contests. So I was not surprised when on our 3rd ym chat she came up with a sick relative. Not surprisingly when I gently but firmly made it clear that I would not be paying for any medical treatments she immediately excused her self to the CR and never returned.
The surprise was when I joined friendster. Friendster will go through your ym and other address lists and try to contact everyone on the list!! But as I was going through pruning my list down (no need to give every Filipina I meet a complete list of my other friends. Well I'm looking through the list and up pops this drag queen who looks like a reject from Tom Browning's "Freaks".
So if you get a smile from C00883630, just remember that you are really talking to http://www.friendster.com/viewphotos.php?uid=53978709&a=0 Noth'n left to do but send a note to CB, take a long hot shower, and move on.
-S
Smart has an option of using a cell phone as the modem for your laptop. This does not require a contract with them. On my last trip I spent so much more money than I needed looking for hotels that had Internet available in the rooms.
This times I am looking for places that offer good weekly rates so that I can move around a lot. I plan to spend a month or so in both Cebu and Davao.
Date In Asia has been great so far, easy to use, free and you can even put your yahoo id in your profile if you like. Just click on the "last active" and find a cute girl that is on line. They do not have a great search function, like FH and Bu they do have a link at the bottom listing all the different cities, so you can hit up all thy cute girls in the city of choice a few days before your visit.
Sojourner, I have a Friedster profile, never look at it, and find it a pain. The friend list creates problems as someone has posted on ISG about a year or two ago. Fking friend contacts some other fking friend and you know how jealous Filipinas can be...
So, how do you filter the friend list? Sorry, I'm completely naive about Friendster.
Second, I get weekly messages from Friendster "friends". I don't know why I get their message since I never added them. Some are married and living in the west.....I don't want to hear from them. Others are pretty hot....
I guess this is a Duh...question....hope you can elaborate.
X
Recently I received a smile from a young lady. She was a buxom lass who with a big smile and I was happy to reply. After a few letters we moved to YM where I soon became concerned because she never seemed to have a cam. None the less she seemed quite nice, but I thought a touch too flirtatious as she recalled her time in her early 20's when she made money in several bikini contests. So I was not surprised when on our 3rd ym chat she came up with a sick relative. Not surprisingly when I gently but firmly made it clear that I would not be paying for any medical treatments she immediately excused her self to the CR and never returned.
The surprise was when I joined friendster. Friendster will go through your ym and other address lists and try to contact everyone on the list!! But as I was going through pruning my list down (no need to give every Filipina I meet a complete list of my other friends. Well I'm looking through the list and up pops this drag queen who looks like a reject from Tom Browning's "Freaks".
So if you get a smile from C00883630, just remember that you are really talking to http://www.friendster.com/viewphotos.php?uid=53978709&a=0 Noth'n left to do but send a note to CB, take a long hot shower, and move on.
-S
Sojourner, I have a Friedster profile, never look at it, and find it a pain. The friend list creates problems as someone has posted on ISG about a year or two ago. Fking friend contacts some other fking friend and you know how jealous Filipinas can be...
So, how do you filter the friend list? Sorry, I'm completely naive about Friendster.
Second, I get weekly messages from Friendster "friends". I don't know why I get their message since I never added them. Some are married and living in the west.....I don't want to hear from them. Others are pretty hot....
I guess this is a Duh...question....hope you can elaborate.
X
I am new to Friendster so someone else could offer more knowledgeable advice, but during the joining process, I saw a window of people it was going to contact. You can uncheck everyone and avoid having too many friends when you start. However I suspect they keep addresses, so anyone who as asked you to join in the past will probably be notified. Not sure who else gets a 'heads-up' but the companie's focus is on getting people to have as many friends as possible, so they probably give a note to others who are already a part of friendster. Just a guess.
Regards
-S
Sojourner, I have a Friedster profile, never look at it, and find it a pain. The friend list creates problems as someone has posted on ISG about a year or two ago. Fking friend contacts some other fking friend and you know how jealous Filipinas can be...
So, how do you filter the friend list? Sorry, I'm completely naive about Friendster.
Second, I get weekly messages from Friendster "friends". I don't know why I get their message since I never added them. Some are married and living in the west.....I don't want to hear from them. Others are pretty hot....
I guess this is a Duh...question....hope you can elaborate.
X
X, my Manila GF is a mad friendster addict so of course I had to get one also... ugh. Great if u want to sniff out women for contacts but a pain as u say when they all post those damn 'bulletins' to u & everybody they know. U can turn a lot of this rubbish off in your account settings or just remove them as a friend. The account settings are at the top right of the page.
Another thing i do is to make my profile 'private' & make it visible only to friends, friend requests are set to manual approval.
I had the same experience with Tagged & Ringo.
Cheers
AV
I had my way with this girl from the first night.... CB girl, I took her to Jacks and then Venue restaurant...on a subsequent meeting we went to Paradise after a tryst. But this was not p4p.
""Hi!!! X, my birthday is near,this comin april 20 and i would love to demand u just in a very special moment of my life im begging u with all ur heart.im asking help just to have CPU back and i can have internet back and to chat,to contact wiht u again pls pls pls..... Salamat X..... miss yah...."
This is kind of out of the blue, she hasn't been in contact much. She's really out of character with this post.
My plan is to send a really nice b-day message in April.
And I will repeat an often ignored suggestion....if you feel slighted or scammed by a lady, don't react in a bad way. Telling her you feel SCAMMED, could just result in a scammer refining her technique. And if a girl is so desperate to try these kinds of stategies, she may very well be open to suggestions when you meet face to face.
What would you do?
X
First Filipina I ever tagged was gained from chatting online. A gym trainer in Manila. Presently married to someone reading this now in New York. Ha-ha. Sorry had to laugh to myself.
Second was a teacher of Physical Therapy at a prestigious university. Also now in the US married in my hometown at that.
In my experience most of the girls have been on some hi tech shit (hi tech shit hometown slang for fucking crazy) I had one in Davao who would always strip for 10 dollars on web cam. At first I loved it but then I guess maturity kicked in and I started to feel sorry for her. She was “virgin” when I met her for the cherry obsessed crowd. Last I heard of her some Filipino guy had knocked her up and she tried to kill the baby by drinking some poison that didn’t work. Then she turned around and asked me for the abortion money.
The other ladies had the all familiar “I want to get married and go work in the states” routine going.
Cebu is lighting rod for the chatters. Chatted with one Cebuana an Accountant recently that was suppose to meet me in Phuket but canceled that after the hi tech shit in her came out.
Now chatting with a 22 year old gorgeous nurse who is suppose to be meeting me next month the wheel turns and turns....
Wicked Roger
03-24-08, 20:22
Fellow Mongers
Have returned from a week in Cebu and Manila and was mainly chasing CB and DIA contacts rather than normal mongering haunts such as bars. So here is a few ‘tip’ for those who like the chase… Other may disagree and that is fine just my bit for those newbies maybe
1. It is(or can be) a lot of effort with CB and DIA girls, contacting them, chatting with them, getting them to see you will take time and there will be frustration along the way
2. Try to start the contact about a week before you do – you will likely get lots of positives but from my experience you can whittle the scammers and time waster easily
3. Neither DIA or CB are better than each some have profiles on both, DIA is easier as you can provide you email and chat address straightaway, CB does not allow this
4. Always cam with the girl – sensible but surprising how we can think (with our todgers!) when we are chatting. I did see one DAI girl on spec and it was a great success (see FR Makati) but I would not recommend it – it could be a lady boy etc and that would be an interesting walk into the hotel….
5. When you arrange to meet offer to pay the taxi fare (as said earlier). Time keeping is not a Filipina specialty. If they say 15 mins allow and hour especially if they are travelling with a jeepney (hence pay for their taxi). It will be a very frustrating wait for them and if you have more girls lined up after this meet then your plans could be shot
6. Always have Plans A, B, C, D….plenty as guaranteed one or more will drop out at the last minute
7. They may (generally do) bring a friend. This is a comfort blanket and support in case we turn out to be someone they do not like etc and in case ewe are sex crazed mongers who want to drag them in to bed :). This can work to your advantage as by agreeing you show your sensitive and understanding nature and the friend may be better than the girl you meet so possibly you get the chance to score twice
8. Getting in between their lovely legs and shaved pussy is not easy (not a calk walk) you do need some effort, charm them, listen and be nice. Compliments and some words in tagalong help. I know a few – mainly rude – but it makes them smile and then you have a chance.
9. Do not expect a shag the first time but this is possible – read my FRs – but make sure she knows your agenda either beforehand when you chat or certainly in the first ‘date’. If you really want her tell her, I find they are not that fazed and some like the attention. Naturally you may come unstuck but then you should have the next Plan working for you.
10. Don’t be too pushy guys, they sort of know what you after and they may give you want we are chasing but being to aggressive and pushy tends to be a turn off for Filipinas. A more subtle approach is needed
11. Generally I like the chase and the girls I have met are nice, honest some very horny some want it on the second date, so you should be successful if you plan ahead and work the chatroom properly
This list may not please and be approved by all but this is my take on matters.
Happy hunting and keep hard and horny
Fellow Mongers
Have returned from a week in Cebu and Manila and was mainly chasing CB and DIA contacts rather than normal mongering haunts such as bars. So here is a few ‘tip’ for those who like the chase… Other may disagree and that is fine just my bit for those newbies maybe
1. It is(or can be) a lot of effort with CB and DIA girls, contacting them, chatting with them, getting them to see you will take time and there will be frustration along the way
2. Try to start the contact about a week before you do – you will likely get lots of positives but from my experience you can whittle the scammers and time waster easily
3. Neither DIA or CB are better than each some have profiles on both, DIA is easier as you can provide you email and chat address straightaway, CB does not allow this
4. Always cam with the girl – sensible but surprising how we can think (with our todgers!) when we are chatting. I did see one DAI girl on spec and it was a great success (see FR Makati) but I would not recommend it – it could be a lady boy etc and that would be an interesting walk into the hotel….
5. When you arrange to meet offer to pay the taxi fare (as said earlier). Time keeping is not a Filipina specialty. If they say 15 mins allow and hour especially if they are travelling with a jeepney (hence pay for their taxi). It will be a very frustrating wait for them and if you have more girls lined up after this meet then your plans could be shot
6. Always have Plans A, B, C, D….plenty as guaranteed one or more will drop out at the last minute
7. They may (generally do) bring a friend. This is a comfort blanket and support in case we turn out to be someone they do not like etc and in case ewe are sex crazed mongers who want to drag them in to bed :). This can work to your advantage as by agreeing you show your sensitive and understanding nature and the friend may be better than the girl you meet so possibly you get the chance to score twice
8. Getting in between their lovely legs and shaved pussy is not easy (not a calk walk) you do need some effort, charm them, listen and be nice. Compliments and some words in tagalong help. I know a few – mainly rude – but it makes them smile and then you have a chance.
9. Do not expect a shag the first time but this is possible – read my FRs – but make sure she knows your agenda either beforehand when you chat or certainly in the first ‘date’. If you really want her tell her, I find they are not that fazed and some like the attention. Naturally you may come unstuck but then you should have the next Plan working for you.
10. Don’t be too pushy guys, they sort of know what you after and they may give you want we are chasing but being to aggressive and pushy tends to be a turn off for Filipinas. A more subtle approach is needed
11. Generally I like the chase and the girls I have met are nice, honest some very horny some want it on the second date, so you should be successful if you plan ahead and work the chatroom properly
This list may not please and be approved by all but this is my take on matters.
Happy hunting and keep hard and horny
Hi WR,
Well said advice, good post!
In regards to point 3) I'd like to add that if you have a busy life DIA is preferable to CB. On CB girls have on their profile hometown as being for Zamboanga for instance but only after days of on board chat or YM'ing do u find out they are actually in Cebu or some such. On DIA you can post your location & contact details up front & can get to the truth of their location quicker. The only site better is FK where you can get there complete contact details by being a paid member.
In regards to point 4) Yep very important to see them on cam, profile pics can be out of date & asking to see them weeds out the out-right frauds real quick. Quite a few genuine girls use cousins or friends to keep there online persona humming along whilst they are elsewhere, usually not a good sign either.
As regards the rest, common courtesy & manners really. i've told many guys, if you're going to meet girls from dating sites you have to at least _try_ to appear a little genuine.. hehehehe ;)
Cheers Rodge, sounds like you had an exhausting but great time.
Amavida
Hello Amavida, pardon my ignorance, but what is FK?
My last trip was based on CB girls, with reserve options, sometimes plans B, C and D.
All in all, it worked well. Of the three in Davao, two bonked almost immediately, or after maybe an hour of pleasant chatter. The third, Miss B, was a dead loss, and I think she is a scammer who hasn't made much money out of me.
Butuan had only one very suspect CB contact, and it turned out that she was pretty plump. She had made it clear from the minute that we met, that she would be into it, but she was a real turnoff - photo did not match reality. But she is now a good potential procurer, as I have treated her in a dignified way.
There were two CB contacts set up for Manila, both showed right on time, both were goers.
There was one for Angeles. She showed right on time, but was another case of photo not matching reality. But as before, I treated her with dignity, had a nice lunch, and she is now a potential procurer.
And for me, they are much better gfe than p4p girls, far less likely to be diseased, good for bareback which I really prefer.. They look after me, wash, clean, cook, manicure, massage, wash me in the shower, fuck on cue, and are good conversationalists etc.
So it works, just that it is a high risk game. They may back out at the last minute - none in my case; the photo may misrepresent reality - 2 in my case, but the ones that did climb into my bed were enthusiastic, good roots, all now desperately in love, when will I come back? And the backup plans generally worked, so I got my rocks off every night, generally with little effort at searching etc.
Much of the problems that I had, arose from my own ignorance in using the CB search engine. I put in the wrong height range and weight range. Now I know better, having gone through the finer details of all of the entrants in a beauty contest, recorded and graphed their heights and weights. So now I have a ready reference against to compare the stats of any CB girl that may be of interest.
I also find that it is expensive in time, takes hours to search, scan, send messages, reply, follow up etc. I operate on the basis of the numbers game, plenty of starters, and see how many keep going till it is time for me to travel.
So!
I'm doing it again next time, with some refinements.
Hello Amavida, pardon my ignorance, but what is FK?
'Filipino Kisses' (sic)
http://filipinokisses.com/
This is a paid web site but _very efficient_ because you can quickly find girls by location & then each girl must have full contact details on their profile... saves me a lot of time... The other approach is on DIA just put in your profile The dates & location you will be along with email address & phils cp #, then stand back & wait for you email box to fill up with 'pick me! pick me!' type messages hehehe :)
CB has a huge number of members but I find it tedious to quickly get location (the real one) & contact details. YMMV
My last trip was based on CB girls, with reserve options, sometimes plans B, C and D.
All in all, it worked well. Of the three in Davao, two bonked almost immediately, or after maybe an hour of pleasant chatter. The third, Miss B, was a dead loss, and I think she is a scammer who hasn't made much money out of me.
Hi Gangles, Excellent, glad to hear it went so well!
Butuan had only one very suspect CB contact, and it turned out that she was pretty plump. She had made it clear from the minute that we met, that she would be into it, but she was a real turnoff - photo did not match reality. But she is now a good potential procurer, as I have treated her in a dignified way. There were two CB contacts set up for Manila, both showed right on time, both were goers.
Yep gotta see 'em on cam my man! BTW my Manila non P4P GF is back in Butuan (Bayugan actually) at the moment, hope u did'nt do her also ... hehehehe :D
There was one for Angeles. She showed right on time, but was another case of photo not matching reality. But as before, I treated her with dignity, had a nice lunch, and she is now a potential procurer.
And for me, they are much better gfe than p4p girls, far less likely to be diseased, good for bareback which I really prefer.. They look after me, wash, clean, cook, manicure, massage, wash me in the shower, fuck on cue, and are good conversationalists etc.
Actually many of the BG's are pretty conservative, they tend to be serially monogamous, but who can be sure about any woman...
So it works, just that it is a high risk game. They may back out at the last minute - none in my case; the photo may misrepresent reality - 2 in my case, but the ones that did climb into my bed were enthusiastic, good roots, all now desperately in love, when will I come back? And the backup plans generally worked, so I got my rocks off every night, generally with little effort at searching etc.
Yeah great for guys who need want to arrange some action in advance although there is no shortage of it once you are there..
I also find that it is expensive in time, takes hours to search, scan, send messages, reply, follow up etc. I operate on the basis of the numbers game, plenty of starters, and see how many keep going till it is time for me to travel. I'm doing it again next time, with some refinements.
Yeah, in my situation (live here 6 months of the year) I dont need to rely dating sites but it is great fun to dabble in meeting fresh talent that way.
I agree its very expensive in time something I dont have much of. (I tend to only join up those web sites now & then for 1 month & then drop off the radar so that I dont get overloaded) The flip side of course is plenty of action organised for you before you arrive so no sitting around when you get there!
Man sounds like you had a great time! Congrats on a sucessful mission!
Amavida
AV is right, the restictions on CB are a problem. You can't give contact info on first post, and they get banned if they do. I keep going back to them, because even after I end my subscription, I still get hotties posting into my account and I can't read it unless I subscribe. That is one of the reasons I asked Jackson to create this thread, but in the end, most guys aren't willing to give up the contact info ...but thanks to those of you who have (via pm).
If you find a hottie that is online at CB you can get her contact info then and there - no problem.
Scammers and others get banned pretty quickly. This is great if you are some moron (I'm exagerrating, please forgive my caustic nature) desperate for a wife and plan to propose online, and meet for the first date at the embassy to process the paperwork.
AV also mentions "location", but I don't get it. Regardless of the site, women might post their hometown, rather than their actual location. This is a problem with chat women, but I don't understand how one provider can be better than the other.
So, always ask about location. And make sure you ask if her 18 yr old cat is shaved or wants to be shaved. WR wants to know.
X
Wicked Roger
03-26-08, 18:40
So, always ask about location. And make sure you ask if her 18 yr old cat is shaved or wants to be shaved. WR wants to know.
X
And so does Fifty Fifty as he will get out the razor and assist :D No shave no shag..well with me (and FF) - we are picky :D
Seriously, X is right check age, I always ask when their birthday is as a few not 18 so beware out there.......
av is right, the restictions on cb are a problem. you can't give contact info on first post, and they get banned if they do. i keep going back to them, because even after i end my subscription, i still get hotties posting into my account and i can't read it unless i subscribe. that is one of the reasons i asked jackson to create this thread, but in the end, most guys aren't willing to give up the contact info ...but thanks to those of you who have (via pm).
if you find a hottie that is online at cb you can get her contact info then and there - no problem.
scammers and others get banned pretty quickly. this is great if you are some moron (i'm exagerrating, please forgive my caustic nature) desperate for a wife and plan to propose online, and meet for the first date at the embassy to process the paperwork.
av also mentions "location", but i don't get it. regardless of the site, women might post their hometown, rather than their actual location. this is a problem with chat women, but i don't understand how one provider can be better than the other.
so, always ask about location. and make sure you ask if her 18 yr old cat is shaved or wants to be shaved. wr wants to know.
x
hi x,
im very time pressured so my approach is to search by location, then check attractiveness, then start a chat to confirm location & determine the girls intentions/personality.
i dont search on looks first, there's just too many of them & they are rep001tered all over the place. i find chatting 'blind' is a real time waster. as you say x, many post their home town in the friggin province as their location when they are actually at the other end of the country & vice versa. grrr!
with fk every profile has full contact details (if you are paid member).
you go into a chat knowing her address & cp#. all you have to do is confirm it at the start of the conversation to prevent wasting hours on line with inane mind numbing stuff like 'hi my name is ,,,' : k, 'hows things? : k, 'want to bite the heads off kittens & use their blood to write love poetry?' : sup2u
- uggghh!
if they make it past the first interview then i email them a pic & push them to email me a pic back. amazing how different the profile pic can be to the one they email you....
so far i have't found any hirsute elderly cats but i'll keep looking coz i know our friend wr really likes them! :d
c'ya
av
South by SW 2
03-27-08, 05:29
I'll chime in briefly with my experience on Filipino Kisses.
I signed up a month and a half ago. It is convenient from a contact standpoint - you get all the information upfront. The search capability is rudimentary at best.
In the first month I got about 100 contacts only 10 of them initiated by me browsing a profile. I had 25 contacts in that time, but that is inflated by the fact that I reply to all emails even if it is just to decline.
I've chatted with about a 15 women. Of those, 10 made it over yahoo messenger and a cam. Five or six are regulars. Four or five seemed either unstable or constantly hinting they need money, so dropped them.
I don't have the discipline to ignore emails from 20 Y.O.s even though I'm happier with 30 somethings, so 4 of my regular chat'ers are in that group. All of them are using internet cafes, so no tits for me.
My 30 or so "Admirers" are mostly women over 40. So that hasn't been very useful. After a month, the spontaneous contacts have dropped sharply. Guess I'm no longer fresh meat.
It's difficult to keep the interest stoked for I'm going to go actively browsing in my city and age range in a week or two. That's closer to my trip and easier to sustain
I'd echo what an earlier poster said and wait until one month before you trip to sign up. It's been fun, but it's a bit of a sinkhole timewise and I don't think it'll yield any more in-person contacts than waiting would have.
I won't know until I hit Davao City in early May what my conversion rate is.
On the whole, I'd prefer Filipina Kisses, but I guess that domain name was taken.
-- SbySW
Fifty Fifty
03-27-08, 05:45
And so does Fifty Fifty as he will get out the razor and assist :D
Hey WR I do not recall having to assist you or asking for your help, you know the Barber of Dubai, (AKA Klipper of Kazakhstan, Mower of Makati and Coiffeur of Cebu) prefers to sail single handed.
No shave no shag..well with me (and FF) - we are picky :D
Agreed, bald is best mate, but each to his own.
As for Dating Sites, I used CB and found it as X says, very tedious to sort the wheat from the chaff. However there it seems to be well moderated and the new site format is pretty good too.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Cunning Stunt
03-28-08, 10:25
You guys have opened my eyes to a wealth of new info so when I read about this DIA site (sounds like a memorial to dead mongers), I thought I would give it a go. However initial results are not promising. From the first day (last week) my 'members interested' bit filled rapidly but mainly with grannies and pinay lumberjacks (at least thats what they looked like).
Singled out some pretty ones but the dialogue is like having a molar pulled. And all in that infuriating textspeak that Filipina's love so much. Couple of examples.
Girl (age 29): Hi, how ru? I'm virgie, nice to meet u. Blah, drivel, blah
Me: Hello, You are too old to be a virgie
Girl: Wot you mean? Blah, drivel, blah.
Another lovely girl posted a sexy, revealing pic of herself (maybe) and then complained in the pen pic that she didn't want people contacting her because of her looks but because of her inner radiance. Duh. Wtf.
Me: If you don't want people contacting you for your looks why post a pic with your tits hanging out?
She blocked me.
Do you think I should be more subtle and circumspect? Or maybe go back to AFF where you can cut straight to the chase and view some mucky pix to boot.
Bilbo Baggins
03-29-08, 06:35
C00986741
"18 years of age, a chemical eng.technology student. honestly im seeking a sponsor for my education.. im not interested in sexy chat, but i can be a friend.
thanks........"
Well maybe some lonely reader here looking for a friend will sponsor her, no picture, could be anyone, even X Man. SHE HASN'T LEARNT YET THE POWER OF PUSSY! I do think she would make heaps if she did include the sexy chats.
C00407808
There used to be a time when a see through dress would turn me on I guess those days are long gone.
C00818006
Now X Man, this one is my girlfriend, she has said she would make love to me and be my girlfriend if we meet up so she is a sure thing? Maybe? My problem is I think she is chatting to other men even though she has shown me a blank screen twice without me asking. She sure is busy with those emails!
Now one of my worries is she is about as passionate and interesting to talk to as a blank screen so I'm concerned if the sex is going to be the same so I'm wondering is it me do I lack personality or is it the girl?
Anyone interested in chatting with her to find out if she is my one true love? Her interests seem to be shopping for clothes she perks up if you mention shopping. Another thing is she is always in a private room and for a girl struggling to survive with few clothes it does seem extravagent. Its a puzzle for me.
I just joined DIA no luck yet maybe I need a better photo.
Wicked Roger
03-29-08, 11:37
C00986741
C00407808
There used to be a time when a see through dress would turn me on I guess those days are long gone.
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Now X Man, this one is my girlfriend, she has said she would make love to me and be my girlfriend if we meet up so she is a sure thing? Maybe? My problem is I think she is chatting to other men even though she has shown me a blank screen twice without me asking. She sure is busy with those emails!
I just joined DIA no luck yet maybe I need a better photo.
BB
The Advanced Search on CB has changed, now I cannot seem to be able to type in the lady's CB number. Anyone else have this issue, maybe just me
DIA? Like any site, tell them you are in town next weeek...you will inundated :D
Fifty Fifty
03-30-08, 10:13
The Advanced Search on CB has changed, now I cannot seem to be able to type in the lady's CB number. Anyone else have this issue, maybe just me
Hi Rog, CB Search is all fukd up at the mo. I put in my usual Advanced Search, you know, using the 50:50 criteria etc.
It came up with 8 blokes, and not one of them a possible ladyboy either ;)
Possibilty of searching by CB ID has disappeared, only hope it is sorted before my next planned trip :)
meanwhile, back in Kaz.....
Cheers, F/Fifty
I had a similar problem at CB about a year or two ago when they changed their page. When I checked my email, there were lots of unknown people there - mostly guys. I was tempted to email the guys so that we could complain together, ask for a contract extension, but somehow never bothered. It was interesting to see what the competition looked like - which is rather hard to do at CB usually.
I really want to switch out of CB, but there are so many hot ladies who seem to FINALLY reply to my email after my subscription ends. This may be a strategy of CB.
I'm one of those guys who can't throw anyting away...including 2mU messages from years ago when it was free.
X
Hi Rog, CB Search is all fukd up at the mo. I put in my usual Advanced Search, you know, using the 50:50 criteria etc.
It came up with 8 blokes, and not one of them a possible ladyboy either ;)
Possibilty of searching by CB ID has disappeared, only hope it is sorted before my next planned trip :)
meanwhile, back in Kaz.....
Cheers, F/Fifty
SergeantRay
03-30-08, 16:41
It also appears that the "advanced" search doesn't allow you to search for women in a particular city. For instance, I'm going to Cebu, so I'm not really interested in women in Angeles or Baguio, for example.
The city search is also handy when you know you're going to a certain city, like Bacolod.
So far, I've been really pleased with DIA, both in the quality of women and the responsiveness.
Wicked Roger
03-30-08, 18:44
It came up with 8 blokes, and not one of them a possible ladyboy either ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
But were they 50:50 :D
In preperation for my trip this month, I've been searching DIA and have come up with a bunch of good potentials.
Everything from I want a relationship, but if you get me a little drunk you never know what will happen. To here's my phone number call me when you get in town. To " of course I'll meet you, but I need help paying for school.."
I tried to restrict my contacts to the manila area so the choices range from a few a day to none. Most respond back pretty quick on the site. If the pictures match the girl, then I might do OK.
One of them works in a Webchat and keeps trying trying to get me to join her site so she gets a commission... I told her we can negotiate a commission later.
Has anybody been burned from DIA in that the picture aren't even close or the girls tried to rip you off?
So far at least the chase has been fun.
Has anybody been burned from DIA in that the picture aren't even close or the girls tried to rip you off?
Marty I haven't been burned on that site but the same caveats apply to that site as any other. You will get your share of repulsive ladyboys, annoying beggars, liars, fakes & scammers as anywhere else. Points in its favour, free, large & growing userbase of women keen to meet and simple easy to use layout.
AV
Wicked Roger
04-03-08, 15:52
Marty I haven't been burned on that site but the same caveats apply to that site as any other. You will get your share of repulsive ladyboys, annoying beggars, liars, fakes & scammers as anywhere else. Points in its favour, free, large & growing userbase of women keen to meet and simple easy to use layout.
AV
Basically the rule is to cam with them, no cam no chat.
Agree with Amavida, there are loads of LBs there - in DIA some actually say they are so we can avoid. But when you cam and lok you will see that many not as good as the pics but I have had a few that are far better......Hit and miss my friend
HornyGeorge
04-03-08, 22:55
Dia has more than its share of ladyboys for sure. Never send money to a girl (or god knows what) that you have never met and you needn't worry about getting ripped off. Manila area girls are more likely to be gamers than girls from the province, you can bank on that.
CB functionality is poor, but they do more screening to keep out scammers and ladyboys. The guy going to Cebu should check cebuanas.com.
Gamahucher: great post and so true. There was this one with enormous tits and a picture revealing them. I was very polite, but made a non crude compliment about her "ample assets" and she blocked me. Other than the tits, she was a middleaged pig with no apparent redeeming features.
I have found cb the best site to find a quality relationship. It has the best search options. You can narrow it down to education, kids, and exact age. Last trip I signed up for 3 months. I had 2 months to prepare for the trip, and while I was there I was able to copy and paste"hi, I am in town and like to meet you" to dozens of girls.
Do not limit your self to only girls that have logged into cb recently. Find one that has not logged in for over a month, it means she has not received any emails to read. CB will send her a an email asking her to log on to read your message to her. On the same note, make sure to log in frequently so you show up more often to the girls that are searching.
I have used DIA. The search function is basic, and there are a lot more scamers there, but you will see many girls that will chat with you on yahoo immediately.
I set up 2 accounts on DIA, my real one, and one without a picture to "test"the girls. I am very direct and bold on the fake one, to get a feel of the real intentions of the girls. Basically the fake one asks if they want to go to spend a weekend in Bohol with me, for free. So many girls were interested. Good to know there are some easy girls out there.
If you want to see the most scamers, ladyboys or just plain desperate, check out DIA "last active" on the front page when it it is 3am in the Phillipines.
FH is a good compromise between CB and DIA. A lot of girls that are willing to put out with little effort, but they do a decent job of screening them.
Thanks to all for the comments. You do have me a bit worried now about the potential for Ladyboys on DIA. I'll try the cam route. So far only 2 of them offered that. I'll push it from my side for the rest. If anybody had any luck on DIA and wish to share the names from there, let me know.
I'll let you all how it turns out.
South by SW 2
04-05-08, 04:21
I've only done Filipino Kisses. I've gotten two contacts that indicated they were LBs in the message or profile. Plus, I have one on hold until she can get on a webcam. She wants to do nasty chat, but no cam no chat.
-- SbySW
Thanks to all for the comments. You do have me a bit worried now about the potential for Ladyboys on DIA. I'll try the cam route. So far only 2 of them offered that. I'll push it from my side for the rest. If anybody had any luck on DIA and wish to share the names from there, let me know.
I'll let you all how it turns out.
Marty I really did'nt notice the LB's on DIA to be a major hassle. Of the several that contacted me all of them were 100% honest. They all stated 'Male' n their profiles & so I just put them on ignore which ended any further contact from them immediately. This was 2 or 3 compared to dozens & dozens of girls contacting me. I don't really care which site anyone uses but I thought that people should know that some of us have had great success with DIA.
As a side note i'd like to mention that out of interest I took a look at the profiles of guys on several of these web sites just to get a feel for what the competition was like. Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV
Marty I really did'nt notice the LB's on DIA to be a major hassle. Of the several that contacted me all of them were 100% honest. They all stated 'Male' n their profiles & so I just put them on ignore which ended any further contact from them immediately. This was 2 or 3 compared to dozens & dozens of girls contacting me. I don't really care which site anyone uses but I thought that people should know that some of us have had great success with DIA.
As a side note i'd like to mention that out of interest I took a look at the profiles of guys on several of these web sites just to get a feel for what the competition was like. Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV
You made all my secrets public... waaah, I've got to compete now! :)
Wicked Roger
04-08-08, 17:01
Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV
Don't tell everyone our secrets Amavida.
Also I tell them upfront in the profile that I am a horny bastard and very interested in carnal pleasures....and I still get 18 year olds saying hi...must be the way I write :D Or they think I have a huge wallet :D
SergeantRay
04-09-08, 01:39
I was just on DIA and was corresponding with an attractive young lady. In her last post she had mentioned "gaining weight," and now that I check her profile several days later, suddenly there is a different, chubbier girl in the picture.
I had this happen the last time I met a gal from the Internet in the Philippines. She started to make noises about not being the best looking or the skinniest, and sure enough, when we met, she was obviously using someone else's picture.
Any chick has got to know that her fake photo is going to crumble when you meet face to face, so I think you need to watch for signs of backing up and qualifying herself.
Marty I really did'nt notice the LB's on DIA to be a major hassle. Of the several that contacted me all of them were 100% honest. They all stated 'Male' n their profiles & so I just put them on ignore which ended any further contact from them immediately. This was 2 or 3 compared to dozens & dozens of girls contacting me. I don't really care which site anyone uses but I thought that people should know that some of us have had great success with DIA.
As a side note i'd like to mention that out of interest I took a look at the profiles of guys on several of these web sites just to get a feel for what the competition was like. Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AVThanks for the advice. I have a "date" setup the night I get into town from DIA. She knows what she is getting into and definately no LB as she has a cam. Chats started off very romantic from her side but set her straight.
Lets hope it works out. If not the night is still young.
Fifty Fifty
04-10-08, 06:31
Thanks for the advice. I have a "date" setup the night I get into town from DIA. She knows what she is getting into and definately no LB as she has a cam. Chats started off very romantic from her side but set her straight.
Lets hope it works out. If not the night is still young.
Do not believe all you see !!
I had an occasion a while back where I was looking at a lovely, sexy girl on Cam and her mate was typing the text. I spotted something odd, but didn't say anything to her about it.
I too had a contingency plan, but fortunately, when I met my girl, it was the one I had seen on Cam. I asked what had been going on and she said it was because her friend has good English she was helping.
But you never know, it could have been worse.......;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Wicked Roger
04-10-08, 10:20
Do not believe all you see !!
I had an occasion a while back where I was looking at a lovely, sexy girl on Cam and her mate was typing the text. I spotted something odd, but didn't say anything to her about it.
I too had a contingency plan, but fortunately, when I met my girl, it was the one I had seen on Cam. I asked what had been going on and she said it was because her friend has good English she was helping.
But you never know, it could have been worse.......;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Same for me FF
Rememebr the cam show....her typist was her LB cousin, easy for me to spot the difference when I met them and she showed me (and you:)) that she was all woman :D
Happens more than you think but cam angle is such you cant spot it many times, clever little vixens.....
Lachlan1972
04-11-08, 05:24
Guys,
I need some advice. After reading this forum I listed on DIA and got quite a few girls that I worked up to where we have some cybersex. One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
Another is in a small town south of davao and wants to come up to manila when I am next there on business and fuck my brains out. Sounds good. But how should I pay for her ticket up there? She seems genuine but that is why I am asking you guys for advice.
Guys,
I need some advice. After reading this forum I listed on DIA and got quite a few girls that I worked up to where we have some cybersex. One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
Another is in a small town south of davao and wants to come up to manila when I am next there on business and fuck my brains out. Sounds good. But how should I pay for her ticket up there? She seems genuine but that is why I am asking you guys for advice.
You should be looking much closer to Manila. That way a girl can come there from out of town on her peso (she'll take a jeepney or a bus) and you can reimburse her for the fare coming to Manila and getting back home. If she turns out to be less than ideal for whatever reason, at least you didn't spend airfare on her.
[QUOTE=Lachlan1972]Guys,
One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
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500 pesos is about $12. Not much of a scam so it's probably a genuine attempt to get to know you much better. If she looks good in the still photos you've seen, go for it.
Personally, I wouldn't pay No. 2 to come and visit me in Manila. If she looks that good that you're tempted to spend an airfare, rather get yourself down to Davao and see her on her home turf. That way if it doesn't work out you can give her her marching orders. And if it does work out, well.. have fun!
Duke
One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
A decent web cam will cost you about 800php here. She's not scamming you.
AV
[QUOTE=Lachlan1972]Guys,
One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
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500 pesos is about $12. Not much of a scam so it's probably a genuine attempt to get to know you much better. If she looks good in the still photos you've seen, go for it.
Personally, I wouldn't pay No. 2 to come and visit me in Manila. If she looks that good that you're tempted to spend an airfare, rather get yourself down to Davao and see her on her home turf. That way if it doesn't work out you can give her her marching orders. And if it does work out, well.. have fun!
DukeIf you have done the talk, then I recommend that you fly her to Mla so that she is on your turf, decide where YOU want to eat, travel etc. You can send her back if things do not work out. You will have no distractions (her friends, relatives. All seeking a free feed etc). On her turf, it can be hazardous. Believe me I have had some xperience.
Rayble
Bilbo Baggins
04-12-08, 09:05
Its only a scam if she doesn't buy the web cam.
AV promises. He'll reimburse you if you get scammed.
A decent web cam will cost you about 800php here. She's not scamming you.
AV
Most ladies can walk into a net cafe ...and for 10 - 30 pesos an hour chat with you on cam. I can't think of any reason to buy a cam, but if these guys recommending it have any reason to do so, hope they can provide some examples. (Steady gal, has pc at home, get naked once in a while???)
I, for one, will not call it a scam. She asked you for something and you have to decide whether to give it or not. As others have already explained, it's a small investment.
If you met her face to face and really like her, go for it.
I know I wouldn't.
X
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500 pesos is about $12. Not much of a scam so it's probably a genuine attempt to get to know you much better. If she looks good in the still photos you've seen, go for it.
Personally, I wouldn't pay No. 2 to come and visit me in Manila. If she looks that good that you're tempted to spend an airfare, rather get yourself down to Davao and see her on her home turf. That way if it doesn't work out you can give her her marching orders. And if it does work out, well.. have fun!
Duke
Fifty Fifty
04-12-08, 13:03
its only a scam if she doesn't buy the web cam.
agreed, but $12 is hardly a big time scam, unless of course she has hundreds of guys all sending her the webcam money?
imho the scammers always go for around the 2-3000 pesos in the beginning, often for school or sick relatives etc etc. then they up the stakes to around 5000 if you are gullible enough :(
rleatively speeaking, the 500 pesos she has asked for, is less than a lady drink in joules on burgos - now that bar is a scam !!
cheers, f/fifty
50 is absolutley right on some of his points, but joules is a bar and the prices are well known, so it is an expensive bar, but not a scam. more and more, it seems that expensive = scam...but i'm not sure i'm willing to accept that interpretation at this point.
back to filipinas in chat... humans are intelligent and they will learn from you and the others they chat with...
if you are preceived as a desperate guy, they will ask for a ticket to manila. horn dog who want to see titties and they ask for a cam...especially the smart ones who know how to start low.
my advice: send the cam to av
x
agreed, but $12 is hardly a big time scam, unless of course she has hundreds of guys all sending her the webcam money?
imho the scammers always go for around the 2-3000 pesos in the beginning, often for school or sick relatives etc etc. then they up the stakes to around 5000 if you are gullible enough :(
rleatively speeaking, the 500 pesos she has asked for, is less than a lady drink in joules on burgos - now that bar is a scam !!
cheers, f/fifty
So far out of 15 girls I have chatted with online dating,
1 . 5 of them have asked me outright what they have tp do in order for me to send them money.
2. 3 of them have said they are very poor and do not have any money to eat.
3. 1 has said her father and sister is sick.
4. Rest have not asked for anything yet.
I have asked all of them to come and stay with me . None have refused. Almost all of them have said they do not have bus fare. I told them under no circumstances I will send money. They seem to loose interest right away. The older the girl is more likely she will not ask for money.
Do not send money to these girls for any reason. If you meet them and like them you can make some arrangement to support her. But beware she may be getting support money from other people also. Phi girls have gotten smarter and they know older western people are looking to have fun with them. They know they can get money by preteding to like them. Ultimately she is looking for money , not long lasting relationship for life. What would 20 something girl get out of if she is married to a 50 something or older man?
So far out of 15 girls I have chatted with online dating,
1 5 of them have asked me outright what they have tp do in order for me to send them money.
2. 3 of them have said they are very poor and do not have any money to eat.
3. 1 has said her father and sister is sick.
4. Rest have not asked for anything yet.
Hi Sammon! Look, more often than not the stories are true BUT until you meet them you don't know as it is all too easy for a scammer to run the same line.
So don't send any money to girls you have never met.
You have to ask yourself do you want to start something with a girl who is in such dire straights to begin with?
Or more likely she has been burned by so many lying westerners who have turned up fucked her & fucked off, that she now comes straight to the point in her online dealings...
I have asked all of them to come and stay with me . None have refused. Almost all of them have said they do not have bus fare. I told them under no circumstances I will send money.I have paid fares for particularly fine specimens to visit me, and they have all turned up with a happy ending for me. This is has been a girl i have come to know over a period of time. But it is a risk you must be prepared to take.
Ultimately she is looking for money , not long lasting relationship for life. What would 20 something girl get out of if she is married to a 50 something or older man?She gets a supportive husband who provides for her & her extended family & in return she cooks, cleans & bears his babies.
Back in my home country I got to know hundreds of couples in the Filippino Australian community. The vast majority are happily married regardless of our preconceptions of age. Its a mistake to characterise all pinays as liars & cheats. I do agree that extra dose of common sense is needed the bigger the age gap.
I have to laugh at mongers worried about girls cheating on them.. guys you're in the business of cheating on THEM! If they make a little money putting out for more than one guy is that so bad?
I avoid FL's who spread themselves around but that's a health concern for me.
What is the point of your dating site hunting Sammon? You just want a new conquest? You want a nice long term girlfriend? You want a partner for life? If you are just looking for a new conquest, then by all means go meet them, shag all nine of them, & be on your way without bullshit promises... don't forget to give us a road test report after hehehehe ;)
AV
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Guys, I need some advice. ...Another is in a small town south of davao and wants to come up to manila when I am next there on business and fuck my brains out. Sounds good. But how should I pay for her ticket up there? She seems genuine but that is why I am asking you guys for advice.
Assuming the goods are as described.. Very likely she will come there & rock your world.
- You do realise she is husband hunting & will assume you're *IT*.
- You do realise that she will get pregnant to you & will be in NO position to support it??
* This message was brought to you by Reality Check Inc. (bringing people back to reality since 1973)
Cheers mate
AV
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Fifty Fifty
04-13-08, 09:14
Joules is a bar and the prices are well known, so it is an expensive bar, but not a scam.
Ok in terms of exact definition, (Dishonest method of making money) then Joules is not a true scam.
However IMHO Joules Bar is a total Rip-Off, which is by definition (something not worth what you pay for it)
At the end of the day we pay our money and take our chance(s) or if a true mongerer, vice versa.
I would agree with AV and generally never send money to a girl I havent met. However in this case I would ask her to borrow the 500 from someone to allow her to buy the cam with the promise that, if she does so, then I would send her the cash to pay back her debt and maybe a little extra for the show ;)
On the whole the Pinays are obliging in most ways and it goes back to the idea - Treat em well and they will look after you. After all you may be the only positive thing in her life at the moment...blah ...blah.....blah.
Get her on cam, go and see her, fuck her, do whatever........Lets face it what is there to lose ($12) who cares.
Next please.
Cheers F/Fifty
..in this case I would ask her to borrow the 500 from someone to allow her to buy the cam with the promise that, if she does so, then I would send her the cash to pay back her debt and maybe a little extra for the show ;)
Cheers F/Fifty
Bloody good suggestion FF!
AV
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Wicked Roger
04-13-08, 13:18
However IMHO Joules Bar is a total Rip-Off, which is by definition (something not worth what you pay for it)
Get her on cam, go and see her, fuck her, do whatever........Lets face it what is there to lose ($12) who cares.
Next please.
Cheers F/Fifty
Joules is expensive but there are at least 2 CB girls working there, and that is why I went :D Easy shag for the price of a beer :)
Thanks for the replies of experienced mongers here who have had good experiences of online dating in PHI.
Yes, I have dated normal girls in PHI but not from dating sites. These are the girls I met during the course of my stay there. Those experiences have been good by and large. I have supported a girl for 2 years through school and she was the best GF I had in PHI. Only when she wanted more in the relationship i dumped her.
No, I am not looking to get married and live in PHI. I have a business which takes me to lot of places. I have been honest with the girls I met.
Yes, I like to meet a girl I like and I can easily support her. Sometimes it gets boring with BG's.
So I am weary of the online girls asking for money right away before meeting me. I am not blaming them. I am sure they have been burned before and are being carefull. But it is a big turnoff when the girl asks for money. One girl even stripped for me without asking. She was a beautifull girl with nice assets but I blocked her after that.
No, I am being more pragmatic. It is ok with me if she is romping around without telling me. Unless you are married and live together how can anybody be sure?
Yes, it is easy to find PHI girls online.
No, Most of the girls will not meet you unless you send money first.
Not sure if the girl will show up.
I would like ask all of you guys whether after you send the money did the girl show up all the time?
SergeantRay
04-13-08, 16:07
I thought I'd ask the experienced guys here what's up with the online women who don't give a location.
Ex. "Sexy_Princess, Somewhere, Philippines," or "Philippines, Philippines." This screams scammer to me.
Anyone care to chime in?
Thanks for the replies..
...Most of the girls will not meet you unless you send money first.
Not sure if the girl will show up.
I would like ask all of you guys whether after you send the money did the girl show up all the time?
Hi Sammon, you're welcome :)
Absolutely not true that they will not show up without money first.
DO NOT EVER SEND SIGNIFICANT MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NOT MET.
When i fish in the dating sites I avoid (stop responding to) girls who ask money in the opening conversations. I even get turned off by girls who hint at it too often. The girls i have chosen meet have been the ones who had the good grace not to ask money or appear desperate during online chat/email.
All have shown up.
All except two have been great GFE.
Once you start shagging them regularly they almost all start to expect support as you are very well aware. Fare enough deal i reckon. Like you I can afford to take care of regular GF's. Once you start giving them support they always be there for you unless a guy is an asshole to them, which im sure you're not.
Weed out the ones who are asking money up front. Find & shag the ones with a little class. I have some lovely GF's this way.
Good luck!
AV
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I've gone to Joules twice and been greatly entertained - they had a show at that time. It was over six years ago, so maybe things have changed. I had a date both times I went. It seem that there were a lot of ladies available and interested....and one of the dancers chatted me up when my date was away in the toilet room. How much is the entrance fee these days?
I have no idea what the definition of "mongerer" is, but please don't include me. The word just sounds too much like "mongerel" to me. Sorry to have offended...(as 50 would expect me to do at the end of my posts). :-)
X
Ok in terms of exact definition, (Dishonest method of making money) then Joules is not a true scam.
However IMHO Joules Bar is a total Rip-Off, which is by definition (something not worth what you pay for it)
At the end of the day we pay our money and take our chance(s) or if a true mongerer, vice versa.
I thought I'd ask the experienced guys here what's up with the online women who don't give a location.
Ex. "Sexy_Princess, Somewhere, Philippines," or "Philippines, Philippines." This screams scammer to me.
Anyone care to chime in?Hi Sergeantray & welome,
A great many of the girls have little or no knowledge of computers. Often they get some one else to 'fill up' their profile. No wonder its incomplete or formulaic. Second many girls have the nasty experience of time wasters, wankers & perv's. No wonder they are coy about their location.
Often they will put their province home as their location when they are in fact living & working in Cebu or Manila etc.
If your are wishing to chat with girls in a particular region that coincides with where you will be, you need to confirm their actual location at the start to make sure you are not wasting both your time.
Cheers
AV
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Fifty Fifty
04-15-08, 07:03
I've gone to Joules twice and been greatly entertained - they had a show at that time. It was over six years ago, so maybe things have changed.
Six years, things have changed - everywhere.
If your opinion of Joules Bar is based on your six year old personal opinion, then I fail to see how you can truthfully contest my six week old experiences??
Joules is very expensive, the show is the same ''Bikini Dancing Crap'' that can be seen in any Girly Bar, but fully clothed so maybe not so good as other places where the girls are more liberal.
I had a date both times I went. It seem that there were a lot of ladies available and interested....and one of the dancers chatted me up when my date was away in the toilet room. How much is the entrance fee these days?
Barfines of Girls are not possible - so it was a good that you took a Date there cos if you have a Joules girl sit with you then the lady Drinks at 750 Pesos will soon break the bank.
There is no Entrance fee, to charge Entrance would be taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) as there is nothing to see or do that cant be seen or done in any other bar.
I have no idea what the definition of "mongerer" is, but please don't include me. The word just sounds too much like "mongerel" to me.
This link may be of interest - http://japundit.com/archives/2006/06/02/2650/
Sorry to have offended...(as 50 would expect me to do at the end of my posts). :-)
Oh no, apologies in advance again !! - Not accepted - sorry. :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Malcomturgeon
04-15-08, 07:51
Babyg nice girl from Manila.
Very good blow job and fucking.
Cunning Stunt
04-15-08, 09:11
I have no idea what the definition of "mongerer" is, but please don't include me. The word just sounds too much like "mongerel" to me. Sorry to have offended...(as 50 would expect me to do at the end of my posts). :-)
XAgree with X on this one, its a evil word, and although I use it, I much prefer the gentler British words 'to punt', 'Punter', 'Punting' in reference to p4p activities. One brings up images of gently drifting down the Thames, whereas the other is just plain nasty with its negative connotations (*****-m, war-m, fish-m!).
Bilbo Baggins
04-15-08, 12:39
I chatted with this girl a few times and one weekend she has a cam and I get an invite to see her naked so if I send money she will do what I want for hours on cam. I got the distinct feeling she was new at this as she offered to show me now and I send the money later. She said she was going to trust me on this, okay?
She then took off her clothes and laid down on the bed the camera view was side ways and not good must have been a lot of guys complaining as she moved the cam around to give a better view but she put it too close sometimes and did other novice things that gave a bad show.
She didn't do the things I asked her to even though she said she would and often ignored my simple requests like stand in front of the cam naked, she kept her pants on. She went through a set routine even though she told me she was doing it only for me. At the end she asked if she could see how hard I was and I told her I wasn't because she didn't do the things I asked and I told her to get better equipment. I don't know how many other men got a free show and how many paid.
A week later I am online and available and she contacts me and I start chatting with her as if it never happened. So we get some progress in knowing each other and when I visit she wants me to meet her parents no mention of sex or naked cams or money just two souls seeing if they have a future together.
The next night I see her online and start chatting with her. She then asks if I want to see her naked and seems to be a different person or someone with a bad memory as she didn't appear to remember our conversation from the previous night. Another would be romance bites the dust!
I asked her how she was because the previous night she said she was feeling sick. She tells me she is worse and needs medicine I asked her if her relatives can help her and she says her auntie lives far. I asked if her parents could help and she said they were dead killed in a bus accident in 1993. I tell her I'm a little confused because she wanted me to meet them when I come there to visit her. She carries on in damage control and tries different ploys to get me to send money for show.
I said I can wait and meet her in person but she persisted she wanted me to see her naked and her pussy before we meet and she asked if I liked hairy or shaved pussies she could be what I wanted? (I wonder if there were more of them in the background.) She tried everything to get me to agree to see her naked and send 2000 then she tried the medicine thing she needed to do this to get money for medicine. I told her I didnt mind if she showed to other men but she pleaded its only me she want to show her pussy to. I declined and I havent seen her online since. I wonder if she really was sick?
I wonder if she really was sick?Who knows.. I've known girls who were doing this stuff from a spare room in their house. They eek out a meager existence & endure all the challenges of life on a low income. I have nice memories of shagging a lovely girl from AC who did this stuff. While she charged guys to perv on cam she shagged me day & night for nothing but meals & drinks.
This girl in the pics has a lovely young body, shame you did'nt get to sample the real thing.
AV
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Wicked Roger
04-15-08, 16:05
Who knows.. I've known girls who were doing this stuff from a spare room in their house. They eek out a meager existence & endure all the challenges of life on a low income. I have nice memories of shagging a lovely girl from AC who did this stuff. While she charged guys to perv on cam she shagged me day & night for nothing but meals & drinks.
This girl in the pics has a lovely young body, shame you did'nt get to sample the real thing.
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Agree with you Amavida. Had a nice ACM girl (in fact more than 1 :)) who I have shagged cost me a meal out that the company picked up. And when I was chatting with her I saw her private shows to guys who were paying. She was OK as I am a nice guy ....as my friends will tell you ...nice but wicked and kinky LOL :D
Bilbo, IMHO, this is all a scam.
by coincidence, I am chatting as I type this, on YM with a friend, and about 1 hour ago, I get a window that pops up with....."hello, how r u"? I had no idea who it was. anyway, it turns out it was a phils girl who had tried to get me to do the same thing about 1 year ago. She had let me see her "show" for free a year ago, and as she was chatting with me today, trying to get me to pay up to see another, I remembered many strange things about the "show" I had seen last year.
The room looked like it was in Europe, there was a radiator on the wall behind the girl. It was a tape that ran about 20-25 seconds, then constantly played over and over again. it was on a loop.
Once I discovered this, I asked her to stand up, and of course, she couldn't, as it was not her, but a tape. I asked her to wave at me, and of course she couldn't. it was all quite funny, really.
Since this girl asked you if you like shaved or bushy pussies, I think she has several tapes she can run. I mean, if this girl were for real, and has a shaved bush, how is she going to produce pubic hair?
Also, the fact 1 day she is talking about 1 thing, and the next talking about something completely different leads me to believe it is not the same girl in front of the keyboard. As a matter of fact, is it really a girl, or a bunch of guys, with some footage of a girl playing with herself, trying to make a living, posing as horny girls?
I'd heard that as recently as two years ago Joules (and another place) had a fairly well-done choreographed show, and have not heard anything about any changes (except in the post I've quoted below). It's sad to hear the place has given up on that. 750 for a drink!
Okay, I retract my earlier statement. That sounds like a rip-off!
X
Six years, things have changed - everywhere.
If your opinion of Joules Bar is based on your six year old personal opinion, then I fail to see how you can truthfully contest my six week old experiences??
Joules is very expensive, the show is the same ''Bikini Dancing Crap'' that can be seen in any Girly Bar, but fully clothed so maybe not so good as other places where the girls are more liberal.
Barfines of Girls are not possible - so it was a good that you took a Date there cos if you have a Joules girl sit with you then the lady Drinks at 750 Pesos will soon break the bank.
There is no Entrance fee, to charge Entrance would be taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) as there is nothing to see or do that cant be seen or done in any other bar.
This link may be of interest - http://japundit.com/archives/2006/06/02/2650/
Oh no, apologies in advance again !! - Not accepted - sorry. :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Lachlan1972
04-16-08, 02:50
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the suggestions. Well I ended up sending her the money for the webcam via western union. She went and got the money within an hour and low and behold she was online with it about 3 hours later. She had a few issues configuring it which indicates she actually did buy 1. Good news is that she looks like her photos and has a very cute 18yo virgin sister who I also get to see on the webcam (started chatting there 2! ).
Since then I have had 2 late night shows on the webcam where she gets into the cybersex in a very shy and emabaressed kind of way. So overall I think I have a genuine one here. She only plugs the cam in at night when everyone is asleep.
In terms of the airfare I have also decided to buy it on my credit card. Cost bugger all and non refundable. That way she can't cash them in and I didn't send any cash. She was ok with that also
So again thanks for the feedback and will let you know how I go
PS I have also had a lot of girls on DIA wanting money alsmots straight away for sick aunt etc. I avoid these immediately.
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