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Member #4387
03-13-14, 01:24
Hey guys,
So I have signed up with DIA and I have mixed feelings about these types of sites. First of all I love the fact that there are 10's of thousands of women around the world if not more, and how quickly they seek you out and reply. For me, I'm a very suspicious person and always take things with a grain of salt. I started a DIA profile in January 2014 but never added a picture in order to communicate back and forth. So I added a pic yesterday and I've had or 15 girls message me already. This makes me very worry as to, how realistic and honest are these girls (BTW there all from the Philippines)? I'm mean. Are their pictures real? Is everything they write in their profiles true? I understand that most or all of these girls are out for money and a better life, but I guess my real question is- Is it worth giving DIA a shot to find a nice and loyal girl?You do good beeing a bit suspicious, that will prevent you from beeing fooled, scammed or tricked. Without a pic I believe only hardend prostitutes and big time scammers (who will tell you they work coinsidentaly in Uganda for one home for child will initiate contact and they will give you an e- mail for further instructions, these are mostly guys and no better than a letter from Nigeria saying you won 15 mill US, hehe). With pic you still get the same responses but obviously as you experienced a pic does matter as more "real girls" contact you. You still have to devide them cheaters described earlier from the girls looking for someone though(your state of profile will have a lot to say, as if you look only prostitutes, good girls, girls want to marry, religious girls etc, hehe, the latter is stupid I know but in phils it makes not so big difference actually. In real words, if you meet a religious girl or not, you can bed both kinds.
Many girls use fake pics so get them soon over in live web cam to sort them out(this is to prevent waste of time). Today everyone in the world has access to a webcam (sherpas in nepal, eskimoes in rural parts of the globe and nomades in the Sahara desert and so on) so after a day or two in denial they don't have access, just block them and move on (most likely fake fake). Fake pics can also be discovered using google image(just copy and paste pics into the search engine and you will see a few pic show up as porn pics or celebreties and most likely that is not who you gonna meet)
Many girl will just write shit in their profile and even if she seems like Mother Theresa, bedding her can still happen(that is if you play your part well). They enjoy writing stuffs simulare to "like to meet god fearing man", "man treasuring family values", "i am no bar girl", "i am no prostitute", "only here for seriois relationship", "have to be willing to meet my family", "marriage before sex" etc etc. There will be tons of variations and a few good girls among those i believe there are ofcourse. Many girls write this so maby relatives/friends looking into profiles do not find out the girls real intention which ofcourse can be a rewarding intercourse. There are ofcourse no exact answers but a few lines of commu you will lead you to her intention. In short we can say girls wants to meet up with chaperone(friend, family etc)can be serious. Most girls you find are well prepared for the life and dont need assistance to travel outside their house premisis. And ofcourse the real prostitutes just saying things as it is(very frank and easy way i guess). But what i have learned from dealing with a few pinays is that whatever background they have nothing is impossible in this country. Just stay alert and act like a nice chap and you will be ok..
Dia worth it, hell yes. I started with Dia maby 10 years ago(give or take a year or so)and believe if I add their weight together I fucked tons of them Dia girls alone(phil, chineese, thai, indo, malay even had a few living in Singapore(beeing phil, thai and chineese as well hehe)). But sadly today it seems Dia has moved into a worse state than a few years back and I will admit I closed down my profile last year or so, as I found other meaningful sites or the combination of such better. In clear language; I believe there are better datingsites around these days for more genuine women but also Dia can serve its purpose if you play your cards right.
Many, if interested, will probably tell you why bother as you can just go to a bar and pay a barfine and play with girls as much as you like. Well I hate the BF system (all incl but I guess we are all diff) and can not stress enough that datingsites can be rewardful and I hardly ever miss when it comes to meeting them girls in real life. It costs some time and a few bucks here and there as guys often have to sign up and pay a small fee but i dont care. Good luck and this was my 5 cents..
Tally Wacker
03-13-14, 04:18
Hey guys,
So I have signed up with DIA and I have mixed feelings about these types of sites. First of all I love the fact that there are 10's of thousands of women around the world if not more, and how quickly they seek you out and reply. For me, I'm a very suspicious person and always take things with a grain of salt. I started a DIA profile in January 2014 but never added a picture in order to communicate back and forth. So I added a pic yesterday and I've had or 15 girls message me already. This makes me very worry as to, how realistic and honest are these girls (BTW there all from the Philippines)? I'm mean. Are their pictures real? Is everything they write in their profiles true? I understand that most or all of these girls are out for money and a better life, but I guess my real question is- Is it worth giving DIA a shot to find a nice and loyal girl?What are you doing on a SEX site asking if girls on DIA are nice and loyal? If your looking for a good girl you might want to get your own life in line.
PS. Skogis aint the guy to ask about loyal girls haha.
Pip Jaeger
03-13-14, 04:39
Is everything they write in their profiles true?
In addition to what Skogis wrote (good report BTW) they copy-and-paste a lot. Read enough profiles and you'll see the same BS over and over.
I'm mean. Are their pictures real? Is everything they write in their profiles true? I understand that most or all of these girls are out for money and a better life, but I guess my real question is- Is it worth giving DIA a shot to find a nice and loyal girl?I've found that almost every girl I met used real pictures. One girl I met from a different site was considerably heavier than her photos. You can always video skype or I'm a girl to check her out. Short of hiring a PI there's no practical way to verify the truthfulness of her claims, but the more you message a girl you can sort out how educated she is, her claims of employment, etc. Since DIA is free there's certainly no harm in giving it a shot; it's the site I started with and I was very pleased with the results, but I have moved on to other sites. As for "nice and loyal"... that's tough to assess. Most of the girls I've met are quite nice, and I'm not looking for loyalty. Those girls with whom I have the most open communication tell me about the other guys they meet; I should add that some of them claim to receive a monthly income from their overseas sponsor boyfriends, yet this doesn't keep them from bedding others. I personally feel such support is counterproductive as it enables the girl's freedom to behave as she sees fit, i.e. she's dating rather than working. Keep in mind that many attractive girls receive several dozen messages everyday, and I suspect that over time this affects her views on men, namely that we as individuals are merely one of many options for her. Of course men themselves share much of the blame as many girls have been burnt by guys promising the world and delivering little more than a few shots of cum on her face. It's tough not to get jaded after a few too many of those type of encounters. All in all I'm a great fan of the Filipina's warmth, optimism, and good cheer. And her promiscuity.
I've found that almost every girl I met used real pictures. One girl I met from a different site was considerably heavier than her photos. <<SNIP>>I agree with Huts, and he alludes to the dilemma that we have in trying to decide how recent are the pics.
On Pinalove, some girls will post 20 or 30 photos, some very repetitive selfies with very little difference between them.
Some will mix up photos taken at graduation as well as a succession of photos that might be 5 to 10 years old and then with photos taken recently. They do not necessarily appear on the site in order (succession).
Occasionally (often?) they post a pic with a date stamp and if it says, for example, April 2012 then it gives you a good indication which pics preceded or post-dated the dated one.
The only sure way is to get them on cam. If they offer all sorts of reasons why they cannot go on cam then be suspicious.
LMAO at Tally. That's all I have to say about that!
Thanks for info guys I really appreciate it. Its funny because a lot of girls profiles state that they are not into money, they just want a nice guy. But I know its all BS. And for the most part all I'm really interested in, is to have fun and bang them. I'm mean that why we are on sites like this, Right?
Hey Skogis? You mentioned that you got rid of your DIA profile and found other meaningful sites. Care to share?
Overall I will continue with DIA do the possibility of traveling to the Philippines & Thailand next April.
I'm not trying to create any animosity, but I disagree with the comment that,". Not into money. It is all BS". There are plenty of regular ladies out there who would be happy to have a regular date / relationship / sex / etc. I've had some incredible experiences with regular gals, but have to admit it's getting rarer as I get older.
And "bang them" sounds a bit crude, even though I can't disagree with your point. I've had some fun dates even when I didn't "bang them". You also have to remember that there are some guys out there who want a wife, and the online sites offer some attractive possibilities. Some of these guys are terribly naive, get scammed, and then scream about how evil the Filipinas are. That's another over generalization.
Anyway, you requested info.
There are pay sites: Cherry Blossoms was the first one I used and it served me well. I think another is Cebu something or another. Which I've never tried. Are you going to Cebu?
The others discussed are PinalLove, Tagged, and of course Craiglist.
As for FB, when I get a gal's FB, and I find some Westerner. I peruse his friend list. I've had absolutely no luck in this area. If you are not a "Friend", your message goes to the "other" file, and hot gals probably have too many messages anyway. X.
LMAO at Tally. That's all I have to say about that!
Thanks for info guys I really appreciate it. Its funny because a lot of girls profiles state that they are not into money, they just want a nice guy. But I know its all BS. And for the most part all I'm really interested in, is to have fun and bang them. I'm mean that why we are on sites like this, Right?
Hey Skogis? You mentioned that you got rid of your DIA profile and found other meaningful sites. Care to share?
Overall I will continue with DIA do the possibility of traveling to the Philippines & Thailand next April.
WestCoast1
03-17-14, 14:17
Thanks for info guys I really appreciate it. Its funny because a lot of girls profiles state that they are not into money, they just want a nice guy. But I know its all BS. And for the most part all I'm really interested in, is to have fun and bang them. I'm mean that why we are on sites like this, Right?
Overall I will continue with DIA do the possibility of traveling to the Philippines & Thailand next April.You might be way, way too far ahead of time prior to your travel. For 'have fun and bang them', I'd suggest you try CL or dating sites just 2 weeks prior to arrival.
Mr Enternational
03-17-14, 14:58
I'm not trying to create any animosity, but I disagree with the comment that,". Not into money. It is all BS". There are plenty of regular ladies out there who would be happy to have a regular date / relationship / sex / etc. I've had some incredible experiences with regular gals, but have to admit it's getting rarer as I get older.
And "bang them" sounds a bit crude, even though I can't disagree with your point. I've had some fun dates even when I didn't "bang them". You also have to remember that there are some guys out there who want a wife, and the online sites offer some attractive possibilities. Some of these guys are terribly naive, get scammed, and then scream about how evil the Filipinas are. That's another over generalization.Kind of weird to me. In many of the threads that I frequent guys feel that if they have sex with a woman in a foreign country then they must give her money or gifts afterwards. They have no sense of what a normal date is. Whenever I go to a country that I haven't been to then I use ISG to see what the mongering situation is. Then as I make more trips over time and become more familiar with the place and/or get the language down, I rely less on P4P and more on regular date/relationship situations. I have been back in Thailand for a month now and have only had 3 P4P encounters (all LT chicks from the disco) for a total of $92. If I actually had to give money to every woman that I have had sex with I would be destitute. I will only be 42 next month so I have not yet experienced (it remains to be seen if I ever will) the getting rarer as I get older that X is talking about.
If you are only looking for women to "bang" for a short stay in a major city then there is no sense in even wasting time on a website. There are venues with hundreds of P4P women that you can pick from when you arrive.
Back on my 8. 13 visit a spent a few hours with a gal I met on dia. The profile implied she was naughty, and she delivered. She came directly to the hotel and sat on the bed with her legs spread unusually wide, and a come hither look on her face.
She had a baby belly, but made up for that in effort. She liked to be pounded hard and also suggested anal. I'm not into anal, but I gave her a good hard fking. I was exhausted.
The dia profile is closed, but I recently came across her FB profile. Surprise. Back around the time I met her she was reporting her marriage plans. The Western guy in the pictures looks as pleased as punch. All's I can say, sir, is thanks for sharing your fiance. X
Member #4387
03-18-14, 10:11
Kind of weird to me. In many of the threads that I frequent guys feel that if they have sex with a woman in a foreign country then they must give her money or gifts afterwards. They have no sense of what a normal date is. Whenever I go to a country that I haven't been to then I use ISG to see what the mongering situation is. Then as I make more trips over time and become more familiar with the place and / or get the language down, I rely less on P4P and more on regular date / relationship situations. I have been back in Thailand for a month now and have only had 3 P4P encounters (all LT chicks from the disco) for a total of $92. If I actually had to give money to every woman that I have had sex with I would be destitute. I will only be 42 next month so I have not yet experienced (it remains to be seen if I ever will) the getting rarer as I get older that X is talking about.
If you are only looking for women to "bang" for a short stay in a major city then there is no sense in even wasting time on a website. There are venues with hundreds of P4P women that you can pick from when you arrive.Not that it is very important I can easily admit I am one of those allways giving money or gifts to girls I nail internationaly. Not because I have to (as most will never ask for a cent) but bcs I want to. I exclude ofcourse girls picked from FL venues where it is more or less atleast expected some money will shift. I have been into this game long enough on many levels to be well qualified to know what a proper date looks like. And I enjoy having them as well. A bit intensive I admit my dating are, especially in Makati, but even if we have only a few hours together (me and the girl) I pride myself into also give them a good time. Hell, sometimes we even go out to eat and drink before the fun part starts. I tend to alternate between Tony Ramos and Outback Steakhouse (very close to the Glorietta 4 entrance). Dealing with pinays, the greater part comes from a rather large fleet of datingsite contacts (all walks of life is met here but I would asume most of them atleast are not hardend P4P's one way or another) and on occation I pick a FL girl from mall, MBC or Havana. Ofcourse I have not many but a few rather hi so girls also here in Makati who I meet from time to time (these gets good qualitydates incl wine and dine and clubbing in designated clubs where they usualy operate like Prive). But whatever they are or what we call them they will have one thing in common, they will get money and gifts from me. Atleast it makes me feel good as I enjoy that arrangment. I know some of the women would like to develope relations with me a bit further but since I can not do that as I have gf back home it feels good to compensate. I am not tight with money at all but try to keep compensations to a decent level.
And when you like me have a large fleet of girls through datingsites there will allways be a 2/3 girls willing to meet almost anytime of the day. Me and my mr Johnson seems to be the limitation here. So in that regard to me it is almost as effective as run down to Havana to pick one girl up. Instead I can sit back in my comfy apartment and wait the girl, have a drink and watch Two and a Half Men.
Mr Enternational
03-18-14, 12:54
But whatever they are or what we call them they will have one thing in common, they will get money and gifts from me.Did you do the same with women you would go out on dates with back home before you had your girlfriend and your kid? I just personally can't see taking a woman who I know is not a hooker back home the day after we have gone on a date and she has maybe spent the night then giving her money and/or gifts, especially when 80% of the time I have paid for the date anyway.
And I think most normal women that I go out with would flip out if I tried to hand them money afterwards. Me and my girlfriend (Thai) just got back from Maldives two days ago. She didn't even want to go because it is so expensive and she didn't want me to spend money like that. I told her that life is to be enjoyed. She wanted something from the gift shop at the resort and everything there goes on the total bill that you pay upon checkout. She said that she would give me the $40 back in Thai baht once we got back to the room. Even when we got back to Thailand she wanted my bank account number and insisted on depositing 20,000 baht/month to help pay for the trip.
Back home I always pay for dinner, movie, or what ever. Maybe even flowers the next day. I do the same when I am on a date in other countries. I try to give them a fun experience and because I know money is very hard for most girls. I always try to pay more than a taxi fare home and I call it taxi money. I went out with a DH in Hong Kong for a couple days while I was there on business. I didn't give her any money but I paid for dinner and activities, a little small phone case she wanted, and at the end of the trip I gave her a Metro card that had a lot of money on it. Because "I couldn't use it anymore". I think it is a little more than I would do for a girl back home but she needs it more than a girl back home. I agree that just giving a girl some cash after a date and saying "thank you" would be offensive, but I think you can do some things to help her out and say thanks.
Member #4387
03-18-14, 18:15
Did you do the same with women you would go out on dates with back home before you had your girlfriend and your kid? I just personally can't see taking a woman who I know is not a hooker back home the day after we have gone on a date and she has maybe spent the night then giving her money and / or gifts, especially when 80% of the time I have paid for the date anyway.
And I think most normal women that I go out with would flip out if I tried to hand them money afterwards. Me and my girlfriend (Thai) just got back from Maldives two days ago. She didn't even want to go because it is so expensive and she didn't want me to spend money like that. I told her that life is to be enjoyed. She wanted something from the gift shop at the resort and everything there goes on the total bill that you pay upon checkout. She said that she would give me the $40 back in Thai baht once we got back to the room. Even when we got back to Thailand she wanted my bank account number and insisted on depositing 20, 000 baht / month to help pay for the trip.Lets not be mistaken here. I am a no offensive guy and ofcourse I don't hand out money like in donating hooker money. I do it with a swift breeze of finesse and give them a good idea this is meant as a gift. As I deal with a few ladies having more than enough cash to easily manage themself I still, dealing with this segment of girls, choose to pay for our activities the old fashion way. Having a nice time, have fun and bang them are important to me. And since I hate shopping (most girls in repeat knows this by now) the girls have no problem accepting money as a gift (they are just not turned into shoes yet). But on rare occations as in they have to get up early to go to work i have been more asleep than awake and simply forgot about the "gift" and ofcourse that have been totaly fine by them as in it never been mentioned since...
In my country women and men are brought up to split everything 50/50, and that is fine by me. But even so I would say I for the greater parts in my life have been the one picking up the check in dating situations. When I started dating my gf of today (half pinay / norwegian) , we did it the same way, she paid a little (maby the taxi) and I paid the larger checks.
I travel extensively and since I don't plan to hang around to long I choose to pay them girls as it makes me feel good. When dealing with the datingsite segment of girls I feel obligated to do so (even if most of them never mention anything about money) as it would be unfair to them me earning maby in one day what they earn in one month. I know the money will come in handy. But even here I don't donate the money as in a P4P situation but more gently like in"here sweetie, I want you to have this little something so you can go have yourself something nice" (most likely 3k piso)
I always like to give a small gift, usually 1k. Because A, any of the girls I see are absolutely broke even if they have a job. I don't generally take them to eat where I do cause it's a waste of money. So I just call the gift lunch, I think it's the humane thing to do and they are always very appreciative. B, it rewards that kind of behavior so whenever they have vacant time they know a good place to spend it. Occasionally even with a best friend, sister or cousin.
I usually stop by any SM mall and buy a few of the 500 peso gift cards. Instead of cash I occasionally hand them a card or hide it in her purse to find later. The cards have always be appreciated and never turned down. The cards are almost as good as cash because SM malls sell 99% of anything they would need.
Member #4387
03-20-14, 02:21
Got some real dejavouz today hitting up a few datingsitecontacts. Beeing awhile since I actually actively used them sites myself I today forgot and asked more than one question in a row? If doing so, atleast this is my observation, you will only get answer on your last question and never the prior ones.
Same if you send 2 or more mails in a row only the last one is answered? Quite irritating but all in all my fault and I should know better doing this some years now (but only happens in phils).
Anyone?
Pip Jaeger
03-20-14, 02:41
Got some real dejavouz today hitting up a few datingsitecontacts. Beeing awhile since I actually actively used them sites myself I today forgot and asked more than one question in a row? If doing so, atleast this is my observation, you will only get answer on your last question and never the prior ones.
Same if you send 2 or more mails in a row only the last one is answered? Quite irritating but all in all my fault and I should know better doing this some years now (but only happens in phils).
Anyone?For the most part same experience. However, they do sometimes answer a question you asked earlier, but usually by then you have no idea what they're talking about.
Me: you working or going to school?
Her: big family. 5 sis. 4 brothers.
Me: 0h! Your dad really loves your mom, hehehe.
Her: yeah, marry now many years much love.
Then about 2 hours later:
Her: how are you? Don't forget to take your lunch (smiley faces followed by other unintelligible symbols)
Me: thanks, am good.
Her: I stop, financial.
Me: Huh? What you stop?
And so it goes, LOL
FreebieFan
03-20-14, 06:06
Kind of weird to me. In many of the threads that I frequent guys feel that if they have sex with a woman in a foreign country then they must give her money or gifts afterwards. They have no sense of what a normal date is.Its a good and valid point, and one where the lines very often blurt between whats a date, a date with sex, and a paid date.
There are many girls that I "think" I've dated, in various Asian countries, and I know they have good jobs, maybe car. We have dinner, go home / hotel for sex and I don't give anything except a smile.
Others who maybe are students or clearly have no money, we have dinner, go home for sex and maybe they get a gift in the bag as they are going " buy yourself some thing nice" knowing she will or maybe will give to her mom, or buy her dad some tanduay etc.
Those who want money just for sex arent my target.
Most of mine are always happy for repeats, so somethings must be going right. But I agree that its hard to define what a date really is. In the old traditional sense of the word.
I was really and happily surprised recently when I booked a May vacation with a girl and she insisted on giving me her airfare costs before I even booked. I like those kind of girls!
That's very strange. In my experience, they only answer the first one.
Got some real dejavouz today hitting up a few datingsitecontacts. Beeing awhile since I actually actively used them sites myself I today forgot and asked more than one question in a row? If doing so, atleast this is my observation, you will only get answer on your last question and never the prior ones.
Same if you send 2 or more mails in a row only the last one is answered? Quite irritating but all in all my fault and I should know better doing this some years now (but only happens in phils).
Anyone?
FruitNinja
03-20-14, 12:31
Appears that there is an airport in Pattaya. Anyone know if you can get there direct from Manila? Almost had to go home but all's well. I'm tired of cars and busses. The trip continues. High five to PJ and WR for all the hospitality in Cebu. Thanks guys!
Member #4387
03-20-14, 13:10
Appears that there is an airport in Pattaya. Anyone know if you can get there direct from Manila? Almost had to go home but all's well. I'm tired of cars and busses. The trip continues. High five to PJ and WR for all the hospitality in Cebu. Thanks guys!The two airports close to Pattaya(Utapao Rayong, UTP and Pattaya airport, PYX)do not have any schedueled international traffic. UTP have domestic flights to Phuket, Koh Samui and Chiang Mai. PYX nothing i believe. Once in a while UTP will be used for russian charter tourists flying in on various Transaero flights.. BKK it is when coming from MNL...
WTF, this is the chat thread and you guys are scribbling about Thailand. Please move your conversation to a thread that is more appropriate.
FruitNinja
03-21-14, 04:30
The two airports close to Pattaya(Utapao Rayong, UTP and Pattaya airport, PYX)do not have any schedueled international traffic. UTP have domestic flights to Phuket, Koh Samui and Chiang Mai. PYX nothing i believe. Once in a while UTP will be used for russian charter tourists flying in on various Transaero flights. BKK it is when coming from MNL.Apparently I posted in the wrong thread and the thread police have "kindly" informed us of that. Good that we have cops around here to keep us all in line. Otherwise this place would be a free for all. Oh wait, it kinda is anyway isn't it? CTFO
Pinaypounder
03-25-14, 22:34
Kind of weird to me. In many of the threads that I frequent guys feel that if they have sex with a woman in a foreign country then they must give her money or gifts afterwards. They have no sense of what a normal date is. Whenever I go to a country that I haven't been to then I use ISG to see what the mongering situation is. Then as I make more trips over time and become more familiar with the place and / or get the language down, I rely less on P4P and more on regular date / relationship situations. I have been back in Thailand for a month now and have only had 3 P4P encounters (all LT chicks from the disco) for a total of $92. If I actually had to give money to every woman that I have had sex with I would be destitute. I will only be 42 next month so I have not yet experienced (it remains to be seen if I ever will) the getting rarer as I get older that X is talking about.
If you are only looking for women to "bang" for a short stay in a major city then there is no sense in even wasting time on a website. There are venues with hundreds of P4P women that you can pick from when you arrive.I think that this question or statement is a Class issues. I have dated the High, Medium and Low Class although I tend to avoid the low class. The Low class are 97% of the women selling sex for money and I support that.
The high class women in the phils and lets face it its a tiny group maybe 2% this group you will have a normal date with aka the west and most of the time you will pay, I did have an exception to that. And I have never given them anything and rarely do I get fucked, they expect to be "courted". These women have real careers 60 k plus a month and vehicles.
The middle class are educated and will have a date and will likely fuck you, this group is not expecting but YOU ALWAYS PAY don't you and this group gets taxi money and I do this out of guilt because usually within 12 hours I am shagging another.
The Low class girls well they need us like we need them and boy do we like them, cute fuckable and poor just the way women all around the world USED to be and SHOULD BE to this day. This group gives us something we cna not get in our home countries, I get fucked allot but not by 95 lb 27 year olds, and this group needs our cash more than we do. So date them and pay for everything and give them cab money PLUS. This group get 1 k max from me.
Then there is the pros and I have paid up to 3 k but think 2 k is good!
PP
Pinaypounder
03-25-14, 22:58
On my last trip to Cebu I used DIA and chatted several, note to self you need at least a 2 week head start to be successful. Any ways arranged a couple of meetings one was with a tall attractive young woman, she brought her sister, the first meet was just a lunch, they bought their own lunch and would not take cab fare. The woman was tall and had a great figure we parted lunch with no kisses or anything but there was interest. I know I wanted to fuck her out of her shoes.
We chatted later online and she invited me to her house complete with 16 relatives and family, I was surprised and begged out, NEVER EVER want to meet the family unless I am truly interested and I have a couple of girls I am pursuing on a serious note.
This girl actually wanted an actual BF and will likely not be fucking me. True or False?
PP.
I love fucking girls who expect to be fucked and rewarded or girls with whom I have been honest with and have advised them I plan to fuck them, but truly nice girls I have no intention of fucking up! Is this a good thing?
Member #4351
03-25-14, 23:09
I love fucking girls who expect to be fucked and rewarded or girls with whom I have been honest with and have advised them I plan to fuck them, but truly nice girls I have no intention of fucking up! Is this a good thing?Its an excellent attitude. The opposite position was that of the asshole who would do long term romantic chats with different middle class professional girls from good families leading up to talk of marriage. This guy stayed at the Radisson and would meet up with the girls who were promised a wedding ring in the short term. He then screwed the girls who were sure they were giving it up to their future husband, then immediately checked out and disappeared.
I've had some success meeting the family. If they vet you, you are in.
I had the mother of a teen, college student text and invite me over the other day. Mama also told me to let daughter take me to the tourist attractions. The girl herself has hinted at island hopping, so this would be overnight. Mama tells me if daughter gives me any trouble, to let her know. Unfortunately the daughter is holding out on me. I want to sample the goods before a trip to the beach, but she's playing it clever. If I take her to the beach I'm probably going to get lucky.
So far a big dick tease, but I'm enjoying playing the "game".
To be fair I got laid both before and after our meeting yesterday evening. Early afternoon date was a real beauty with big lips that you just want to kiss. Well, kiss before you skull fk her. DIA, first meeting, success. She was very busty, but big belly. Then the meetup with dk tease. After she left I rolled into a nearby bar where an old friend was more than willing to get bar fined. She's still hanging around (noon). Doing my laundry at the moment. Bless her heart.
It's more fun in the Philippines. X.
On my last trip to Cebu I used DIA and chatted several, note to self you need at least a 2 week head start to be successful. Any ways arranged a couple of meetings one was with a tall attractive young woman, she brought her sister, the first meet was just a lunch, they bought their own lunch and would not take cab fare. The woman was tall and had a great figure we parted lunch with no kisses or anything but there was interest. I know I wanted to fuck her out of her shoes.
We chatted later online and she invited me to her house complete with 16 relatives and family, I was surprised and begged out, NEVER EVER want to meet the family unless I am truly interested and I have a couple of girls I am pursuing on a serious note.
This girl actually wanted an actual BF and will likely not be fucking me. True or False?
PP.
I love fucking girls who expect to be fucked and rewarded or girls with whom I have been honest with and have advised them I plan to fuck them, but truly nice girls I have no intention of fucking up! Is this a good thing?
FreebieFan
04-02-14, 07:56
Sometimes the ladies say what they mean, but the words use convey a different meaning than the one intended. Specially if you are woman chasing monger!
Bunsokoy, DIA, aged 23 very clearly states the type who she wants to meet. And what she wants them to do.
Pinaypounder
04-02-14, 13:40
[QUOTE=X Man; 1548109]I've had some success meeting the family. If they vet you, you are in.
If you are just planning to pound the girl and pay why would you want to meet the family. Do you think they just want you to use her and to dispose of her? I am thinking that is building allot of bad Karma?
I want knowing participants who know the score.
PP
If you just want to fk, find the p4p gals. They are in the bars and they are certainly on the chat forums. Another esteemed senior ISG member here has described how he posts a very clear profile which includes words like,"generous. My hotel room. Adult fun". I'm sure he gets the p4p gals and even a few who might just be curious, or horny or whatever.
I like to mix it up with p4p and regular gals and I've been doing quite well at it for many years. When I find a lady that I feel comfortable with, I'll stick with her. I don't "dispose of her", whatever that means. And in most cases it is the gal who engineers the family meet up.
It's a bit funny to read such a sanctimonious post by someone who calls himself Pinay Pounder. Karma indeed.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1548109]I've had some success meeting the family. If they vet you, you are in.
If you are just planning to pound the girl and pay why would you want to meet the family. Do you think they just want you to use her and to dispose of her? I am thinking that is building allot of bad Karma?
I want knowing participants who know the score.
PP
Jack Burton
04-02-14, 23:08
This is a shortened copy and paste of a profile I recently looked at. Gentlemen start your engines. LOL.
I am a 26 year old girl who is hoping to find a nice girl or guy to become my good friend or more if I can. I am bi-sexual and have many nice friends who are the same and hope to find more to be with us if I can. I prefer older guys to be honest as they tend to be more honest and reliable, but I'll wait and see. I obviously like to have fun but am hoping to find that special person if I can, be it man or woman.
I sent her a message but she did not respond.Well, she's asking to meet a woman, so maybe one of our horndogs cooked up this ad hoping for threesomes. Or perhaps an aspiring mamasan looking for good talent.
Jack Burton
04-02-14, 23:43
regular girl left for work this morning and i didn't have anything planned until tonight. sent out my vd greetings and received replies from many asking whether i have a date tonight. shucks, i have to work tonight. clumsy girl from fc, who i met twice before, works at a call centre and today was her off day. sure, you can come at 11am. went to mercury drug and picked up a red, heart-shaped tin of lindt chocolates and a few sachets of lubrisafe anal lube at p7 each. much more affordable than the imported tube of kentucky jelly at p350.
clumsy girl arrived a little late;"happy valentine's day, baby," and i handed her the anal lube."hmmpf! so romantic!" she exclaimed with a frown. i then gave her the chocolates and her disposition brightened. pulling off the lid clumsy girl lost her grip and the tin dropped to the floor, the chocolates rep001tering here and there. whilst i swept the living room floor clumsy girl showered. when done she called me into the bedroom. she grabbed my hard cock, pulled it into her mouth, and for the next few minutes her large teeth scraped up and down along my shaft. don't forget to gnaw on the head with your molars, clumsy girl.
over the next 90 minutes she elbowed my face twice but the highlight was she flipped over to change positions and her knee landed solidly on my right testicle. what she lacked in grace and dexterity she made up for in painful passion and violent vigour. believing that her first anal experience would be especially dangerous for me i tied her up. that went without any major mishaps except for some spillage from her rear. the sheets are now in the laundry machine.
"let's shower together," clumsy girl requested. ah yes, what could possibly go wrong on a wet, slippery ceramic surface? count me in. i went under the warm water first and started lathering up with the soap. clumsy girl followed, found the water temperature too warm, and turned the faucet handle right. a strong blast of chilly water hit me."i want to wash you," she said, grabbing the soap from my hands. of course it slipped right out of her hands to the floor, and when bending down to retrieve it she knocked me into the wall. i rinsed and made my escape.
she dressed, put on her make up, and squirted some perfume on herself."do you like this scent?" clumsy girl asked as she sprayed my face with it. my eyes have never smelt nicer.
the sacrifices we make to ensure the girl enjoys a memorable day.
y'all have a safe valentine's day.how do i recommend this as a report of de-stink-shun? plus dude? got her digits?
Pip Jaeger
04-03-14, 01:59
Sometimes the ladies say what they mean, but the words use convey a different meaning than the one intended. Specially if you are woman chasing monger!
Bunsokoy, DIA, aged 23 very clearly states the type who she wants to meet. And what she wants them to do.Quite true FF, but since Buns has a kid (or maybe kids) it looks like someone else already went on an exploratory mission and probed her, LOL.
Tally Wacker
04-03-14, 05:50
Well, she's asking to meet a woman, so maybe one of our horndogs cooked up this ad hoping for threesomes. Or perhaps an aspiring mamasan looking for good talent.Exactly! And maybe the 100 plus guys on here who googled the profile info that Amanut supplied may get a response by him or her.
Member #4387
04-08-14, 01:38
It is soon another Makati trip coming up so I have fired up some datingsites. I have still a large fleet of unused contacts but it is never wrong to scope around to see if there are any new talents riecently arrived. Anyway yesterday one nice beauty contacted me. I recogniced her at once to be one I have befriended in facebook but the fun part was she did obviously not recognise me (I admit I have changed my photo a small tad).
It was rather amusing follow our communication while she was flirting with her european BF back home in Europe, telling him how much she missed him, I love you and all that other crap, hehe. I did tempt her a bit (for fun) and she was willing to meet up straight away at my fictional hotel and she was ready for action no doubt about that. I will for sure keep her as a must meet when i arrive.
For the trained crowd inside here this, I guess, will not be to any surprise. But I believe there are many guys out there trusting them girls. They should not.
But I believe there are many guys out there trusting them girls. They should not.Shush, m8. I've grown to appreciate the overseas money sender. Sure, he's a chump, but he's a benevolent one. By sending his girl tens of thousands of pesos each month he's freed her from having to work so she can devote her time and energy to meet lads like us at a moments notice. We ought to encourage more of them.
FreebieFan
04-08-14, 03:23
For the trained crowd inside here this, I guess, will not be to any surprise. But I believe there are many guys out there trusting them girls. They should not.When a girl has a decent phone, and reasonable clothes but doesn't work then the money is coming from somewhere.
When you ask a girl what she does for money she will invariably be happily evasive and then you can surmise she either works "part time " or knows Western Union well.
No guy should be deceived by thinking a pretty girl is only chatting with him and only seeing him. They work the system in exactly the same way we do.
And as Hut says, we should all be glad for the guys who shower the girls with money to buy phones and clothes. It means they have time for us.
When a girl has a decent phone, and reasonable clothes but doesn't work then the money is coming from somewhere.
When you ask a girl what she does for money she will invariably be happily evasive and then you can surmise she either works "part time " or knows Western Union well.
No guy should be deceived by thinking a pretty girl is only chatting with him and only seeing him. They work the system in exactly the same way we do.
And as Hut says, we should all be glad for the guys who shower the girls with money to buy phones and clothes. It means they have time for us.Well yes FF. In my more trusting earlier day's I would sometimes ask a girl to give me her yahoo login so I could 'help' her fix some ostensible problem. Lo & behold there are 35 other guys in her YM all 'in love' with her & actively discussing 'next visit'. You soon wise up when confronted with it in your face like that. Its impossible to pick the, shall we say, 'busier' girls from the more genuine so I just assume they all hustling and pretty much never disappointed.
AV
Wicked Roger
04-08-14, 08:47
Shush, m8. I've grown to appreciate the overseas money sender. Sure, he's a chump, but he's a benevolent one. By sending his girl tens of thousands of pesos each month he's freed her from having to work so she can devote her time and energy to meet lads like us at a moments notice. We ought to encourage more of them.I agree. I know a few who will call their 'mahal' while am with them (some using Skype and I am not in view but maybe playing their pussy LOL)
As FF said in his FR I have learnt to more observant.
One girl I know is asking me help her with her car debt as she need 15000 pesos to pay the next installment. But she has an IPhone 5 and has recently been to Thailand on vacation (so says her facebook page. I have one also but very fake). So when she asked yet again I casually mentioned to her to pawn the mobile etc to pay the car bill it was shock horror as she said she only a small cheap one!
So what we do to them they do to us and sometime they are far more skilled at it as we have a small brain that keeps thinking way to much at times.
And as Hut says, we should all be glad for the guys who shower the girls with money to buy phones and clothes. It means they have time for us.Hey, I'm all about the hapenis. It's quite sad to see a lonely girl needing a load.
Her phone rings. SHe has that deer in the headlights look. She gives me the shush signal and answers. I wander around trying to look busy. His last words are not really decipherable, but come in a familiar three syllable pattern. She whispers,"I love you too." His conversation ends and mine begins.
"Suck me".
Shush, m8. I've grown to appreciate the overseas money sender. Sure, he's a chump, but he's a benevolent one. By sending his girl tens of thousands of pesos each month he's freed her from having to work so she can devote her time and energy to meet lads like us at a moments notice. We ought to encourage more of them.
Member #4387
04-12-14, 00:14
Her phone rings. SHe has that deer in the headlights look. She gives me the shush signal and answers. I wander around trying to look busy. His last words are not really decipherable, but come in a familiar three syllable pattern. She whispers,"I love you too." His conversation ends and mine begins.
"Suck me".You are a mean dog. Just reminded me of one datingsitegirl I did have over for some fun recieved a phonecall from her bloke (I did not know she got one in the first place). She was talking about Visa issues to this guy and obviously she was supposed to meet him at "his" embassy. All this while I was playing her pussy. She was not that keen on going to this guys country and stood him up giving him loads of crap and laim excuses. The worst excuse I remember from her beeing "I am soooo sorry my luv but I can not find my passport. I have looked everywere in my ruum and nuw I am with friend. Maby I left it there. Sorry luv. Me soooo sad. Luv you". She told me she did not even have a passport and did not like the guy. That is pure cynical don't you think. But since this was not my business I continued my business (no passport needed).
Cunning Stunt
04-12-14, 07:17
I posted these a year or so back. In view of the recent discussion, I'll repeat them for your amusement. She really was telling her bf that she was home alone and bored. I was getting a hernia trying to stop myself pissing myself laughing. Pinays really are masters of the black art of deception.
Pinaypounder
04-12-14, 21:32
I am headed there next week and have a spreadsheet full of girls ot meet. I have been working the DIA and FC hard and here are a few of my findings.
FC is full of "serious" dreamers, girls looking to date men their age, girls with surreal expectations, there are some good women here but it takes time and by good I mean the marrying kind. Many scammers lurk here.
IF they are over the age of 22 and still a student then 90% chance its a scammer just pass.
If they have a beautiful picture and are from Zambonga they are a scammer.
If they are from anywhere but the Phils they are a scammer.
If the have a beautiful set of pic and are from a small area then 75% chance they are scammer. I report them all to FC Admin.
I don't think FC is worth the money but in the past I found 2 of the classy could be marriage material group here, I will one day marry one.
DIA is a gold mine. Several tips.
Same as above.
Chinese girls have the best pics and are never that good looking.
Ignore thier age preferences if you are attractive and polite they are almost all available.
Most ladyboys identify themselves no need to be rude to them if you can't pick out hte lady boys from a single pic your in trouble.
I have many DIA contacts and will have a good trip. Arriving April 16th!
PP
Its an excellent attitude. The opposite position was that of the asshole who would do long term romantic chats with different middle class professional girls from good families leading up to talk of marriage. This guy stayed at the Radisson and would meet up with the girls who were promised a wedding ring in the short term. He then screwed the girls who were sure they were giving it up to their future husband, then immediately checked out and disappeared.Did you ever date Pinays?
He did play the game as the girls are doing it. A "good" girl would not come to your hotel room. But she did because a 5star hotel guest means money. She would not join him in the Sogo Hotel.
Her phone rings. SHe has that deer in the headlights look. She gives me the shush signal and answers. I wander around trying to look busy. His last words are not really decipherable, but come in a familiar three syllable pattern. She whispers,"I love you too." His conversation ends and mine begins.
"Suck me".It is not only the support guys they fool, they fool their parents, siblings and friends to make themselves look like a "Virgin".
I have had several girls whose parents and friends call and they give myriad of reasons to explain where they are and not really doing anything but watching TV. Best reason is washing clothes.
I do not understand why some guys are so hooked with these girls thinking that they are waiting for them.
Just fuck and leave. When you come again try new ones or same ones if they are available without worrying about her life.
Just because she was with YOU, doesn't mean she wasn't bored. Poor girl.
I posted these a year or so back. In view of the recent discussion, I'll repeat them for your amusement. She really was telling her bf that she was home alone and bored. I was getting a hernia trying to stop myself pissing myself laughing. Pinays really are masters of the black art of deception.
Anyone following the thread can see what David 33 has criticized. D33 is not a Filipina newbie. I'm pretty sure of that.
Botaki, a guy promising the stars usually doesn't meet a gal at Sogo (well known no-tell-motel) , you have stated the obvious. What is your point?
Dishonest, scheming, conniving lechers are out there. On one hand they foul the water, gals become more careful. On the other hand, guys like D33 and X and a few of the others here come out looking like, dare I say it, gentlemen.
Did you ever date Pinays?
He did play the game as the girls are doing it. A "good" girl would not come to your hotel room. But she did because a 5star hotel guest means money. She would not join him in the Sogo Hotel.
Member #4643
04-14-14, 00:08
I am headed there next week and have a spreadsheet full of girls ot meet. I have been working the DIA and FC hard and here are a few of my findings.
FC is full of "serious" dreamers, girls looking to date men their age, girls with surreal expectations, there are some good women here but it takes time and by good I mean the marrying kind. Many scammers lurk here.
IF they are over the age of 22 and still a student then 90% chance its a scammer just pass.
If they have a beautiful picture and are from Zambonga they are a scammer.
If they are from anywhere but the Phils they are a scammer.
If the have a beautiful set of pic and are from a small area then 75% chance they are scammer. I report them all to FC Admin.
I don't think FC is worth the money but in the past I found 2 of the classy could be marriage material group here, I will one day marry one.
DIA is a gold mine. Several tips.
Same as above.
Chinese girls have the best pics and are never that good looking.
Ignore thier age preferences if you are attractive and polite they are almost all available.
Most ladyboys identify themselves no need to be rude to them if you can't pick out hte lady boys from a single pic your in trouble.
I have many DIA contacts and will have a good trip. Arriving April 16th!
PPI have a problem with the word "scammer". I guess we all have double standards here, but I find it hard to call a girl a scammer because she is on a dating site and not really interested in marriage. I have met several DIA girls, and I have never been interested in marriage, just GFE sex (for which I am willing to pay, as if the girl were a at). Am I a scammer? For the record, I have never told a girl I am interested in marriage in order to facilitate sex.
Cunning Stunt
04-14-14, 02:47
Just because she was with YOU, doesn't mean she wasn't bored. Poor girl.Of course she was bored. All my girls are bored. I have a pretty heavy duty boring tool, specifically for this purpose. Girls (or gals as you quaintly call them) luv it.
What's your excuse, needledick?
Mr Enternational
04-14-14, 05:17
I have a problem with the word "scammer". I guess we all have double standards here, but I find it hard to call a girl a scammer because she is on a dating site and not really interested in marriage. I have met several DIA girls, and I have never been interested in marriage, just GFE sex (for which I am willing to pay, as if the girl were a at). Am I a scammer? For the record, I have never told a girl I am interested in marriage in order to facilitate sex.I think he means like send money to Nigeria scammer.
I think he means like send money to Nigeria scammer.Common scam requests here are sending money for her transport to meet you and money to pay for emergencies. Haven't gotten the help-me-launder-$100-million request from a Pinay. Yet.
FreebieFan
04-14-14, 07:23
I do not understand why some guys are so hooked with these girls thinking that they are waiting for them.
Just fuck and leave. When you come again try new ones or same ones if they are available without worrying about her life.Hear Hear Hear! There are 1, 000s and the young ones are growing up. The medium aged ones are becoming better and the older ones. Well you can always turn the light off.
There are 3 Filipinos born every minute. So every day, there are approx 1, 000 new girls turning 18. Every single day. A whole ocean in which to fish.
I used to have webcam site to meet girls from Philippines, but this is now gone, there any sites I can chat or meet girls from there now?
Pinaypounder
04-14-14, 20:53
I have a problem with the word "scammer". I guess we all have double standards here, but I find it hard to call a girl a scammer because she is on a dating site and not really interested in marriage. I have met several DIA girls, and I have never been interested in marriage, just GFE sex (for which I am willing to pay, as if the girl were a at). Am I a scammer? For the record, I have never told a girl I am interested in marriage in order to facilitate sex.Forest to me a scammer is one who asks for money and does not provide anything in return. And that happens ALLOT. I am a businessman and I pay my staff and suppliers who all provide services for me.
Paying for sex, paying for a date no worries. Right now a common theme is I am suffering from the Typhoon but I still had time to get these sexxy pics done last week, can you help me?
If you can't figure the scammers from the girls who play for pay I pity your bankcard dude!
PP
I used to have webcam site to meet girls from Philippines, but this is now gone, there any sites I can chat or meet girls from there now?Yes there are. Good luck.
FreebieFan
04-15-14, 06:27
I used to have webcam site to meet girls from Philippines, but this is now gone, there any sites I can chat or meet girls from there now?No, Philippines is officially closed for Easter. All websites also closed. Country will re-open on May 1st, or thereabout, subject to change.
Hahaha. Very funny, I created my first DIA account two days ago and got very active this morning. Then a weird Thai girl contacted me and wrote about how she want to lead Thailand to the leadership of the ASEAN. Hahaha. Super weird. But I started a political discussion with her, in the meantime many girls and also many ladyboys from Cebu contacted me aswell. Fortunately I can spot them out, I mean the ladyboys. Most of the time the picture telling you, if you are talking to a ladyboy or not (if its the real picture. Hahaha). So I was active in many different chats at the same time and then suddenly. My account was deleted from DIA. Hahaha. Guess because of words like "racists" (which alot of Thais are.),"boobs" or "cock" (which I used to find out if I talk to a ladyboy or not.) they deleted my account. Super funny. Hahaha. Wondering what will happen next.
What you describe is begging, not scamming. Begging is straightforward: "I need money, and you have money. So give me some." It can be annoying, but it's not by itself dishonest. Sometimes the description of specific need ("sick baby") turns out to be untruthful, if you investigate. Scamming is making a deal and not fulfilling it. For example, asking for travel funding and not using the money for travel.
Forest to me a scammer is one who asks for money and does not provide anything in return. And that happens ALLOT. I am a businessman and I pay my staff and suppliers who all provide services for me.
Paying for sex, paying for a date no worries. Right now a common theme is I am suffering from the Typhoon but I still had time to get these sexxy pics done last week, can you help me?
If you can't figure the scammers from the girls who play for pay I pity your bankcard dude!
PP
No, Philippines is officially closed for Easter. All websites also closed. Country will re-open on May 1st, or thereabout, subject to change.Bloody hell. Just like Christmas.
The buggy reconfiguration of PL was reported a few weeks ago. As a standard, non-paying member I use the site 3-4 times a week. Logged in this evening and found a new wrinkle. Though I'd already validated my account via email when I joined a few months back, tonight I was required to either validate using my mobile or become a paying member. I opted to provide my digits, received an authorization via sms is short order, entered it, logged on, and found all my messages were deleted. Jeepers!
BTW, though a non-paying member can no longer view the profiles of those who send interest messages, if you configure your account to receive email notification of an interest message you'll receive a message that includes a clear photo. Much easier to use this rather than squinting at a pixelated photo of the interest sender on the PL website.
there are 3 filipinos born every minute. so every day, there are approx 1, 000 new girls turning 18. every single day. a whole ocean in which to fish.wow ff this is the best motivational speech i have ever heard in my entire life! thank you! (. v.)
Member #4643
04-16-14, 04:38
DIA now has a warning above the box where we type our messages,"If you wish to send a message to XXXXX, please be a real Gentleman and keep it clean. No profanities or sexual references are allowed whatsoever. Period. No ifs or buts. If our filters detect any of this, your profile / account will be closed. (This notice is displayed to all members in our site)."
I have never seen this message before so either I am not particularly observant, or this is new (probably both!). As I have asked many women for sex on DIA over the years, I guess the usefulness for me of this site is going to come to an end.
It has always been my impression that about 1/2 the girls on DIA are very happy to be asked for some P4P action, and 10% are there for nothing else. DIA management seems to be out of touch with their clientele!
No profanities or sexual references are allowed whatsoever. Period. No ifs or buts. If our filters detect any of this, your profile / account will be closed. (This notice is displayed to all members in our site)."It's true. I've been banned. Waited a few days to open a new account using a new handle, email address, and mobile number, and that account was rubbished post haste. There are always other sites.
Member #4643
04-16-14, 04:52
It's true. I've been banned. Waited a few days to open a new account using a new handle, email address, and mobile number, and that account was rubbished post haste. There's always other sites.In the past, it was simply against their rules to offer money. I suppose it just depends on how they have their filters set. I typically say,
" I am not looking for a long term relationship, but rather something fun and naughty. You will not regret getting together with me at my hotel in Makati, as I am fun and will make you happy in the end that you spent the time with me (I cannot give you details without breaking DIA rules)."
Will I get banned for this? (I will know soon). I have always loved DIA, but I guess if I don't care to pay money, there is tagged. Com (where I can offer a girl cash for any specific sex acts I care to discuss, and nothing will ever happen). Any advice for other free sites? The pay sites are not terribly expensive either, its just that I hate to use my credit card on a dating site.
In the past, it was simply against their rules to offer money. I suppose it just depends on how they have their filters set.
I never mentioned money. My profile was sexually explicit - it lasted for 18 months. I considered it a filter to weed out those who were genuinely looking for her forever Prince Charming since they were quite unlikely to message me. Provided they read my profile (many didn't) those who messaged me knew from the get go what was offered and expected. Those who merely sent an interest or made me a favourite I'd follow up asking them to confirm they read my profile and understood what was is store for them.
Your message looks safe to me.
Tagged is good, badoo is okay, I like okcupid, the pickings on pinalove seem a bit meager, and I still find filipinocupid the best for me.
It's true. I've been banned. Waited a few days to open a new account using a new handle, email address, and mobile number, and that account was rubbished post haste. There are always other sites.If you really want to re-join DIA open your account with a new handle, email address, and mobile number but this time clear out all your cookies on your computer beforehand. Alternatively use a different computer to register. Although you are only permitted one account on DIA, by doing this I have managed in the past to have 2 different accounts there at the same time.
Member #4387
04-16-14, 08:41
If you guys would enjoy a handful through easter check out "Yopaj" in pinalove. That would give you sth to tell the grandchildren.
I am not a geographer but I think we need to keep some perspective about the population of women that short-tern visitors to the Philippines encounter.
There are 97 M people in the Philippines; and almost an exact 50% divide between males and females.
35% of the population is aged 0 to 14.
60% is aged 15 to 64.
5% is aged 65 and over.
So there are around 58 M people in the middle age range, so at a rough estimate (I cannot be fussed breaking this range down further), let's say 50 M are aged 18 to 50, which means 25 M women
Short-term visitors (aka sex tourists or businessmen or both) are in touch with only a very small proportion of this 25 million filipinas. These are the women who work in the sex industry, and some are on dating sites and chat sites and roam around malls looking for pick-ups. Let's be generous and say they number 1 million.
The other 24 million filipinas are going about their everyday life without having ever met a foreigner or even contemplated having sex with one. If they are on DIA or pinalove or FC or whatever desperately seeking a husband in their simple and naive way and are propositioned by guys seeking sex then they are going to react negatively.
They will quickly report such a profile or an approach to the web administrators.
Those of us who LIVE and WORK here encounter members of the 24 million normal women every day. These women have no idea what goes on in bars, Cafe Havana, LA Cafe, chat sites etc etc etc and go about their daily business in a very normal way.
It is WRONG to categorize all filipinas as being LBFMs or women who will go with anyone, anytime, but I hear such assertions made regularly as though every woman is available if you put in enough time and money.
Women in chat sites and bars and even "pick-up girls" in malls represent a very small portion of the total female population, and, in GENERAL terms, they are from the bottom level of the pond (with, of course, exceptions, as with any generalizations).
Mr Enternational
04-16-14, 16:41
Come on RK. This stereotyping happens everywhere that single male sex tourists go. Most never get off their bar stool to experience other parts of the culture, country, or even city for that matter. They only go as far as where they have heard the hookers are. And it's nothing short of classical conditioning. That is all they know, therefore that is all there is.
How many guys on here have pitched a beotch because somebody posted a report about meeting a pinay, eventually having sex with her, and not giving her money? The complainer says well some girls are too shy to ask for money, but they ARE expecting you to give them some. I say bullshit. Get out and meet some regular chicks for a change. These guys do nothing but perpetuate the LBFM stereotype by assuming all pinay only go with foreign men for money because the kind of women they seek out and find are that kind. You see this same shit repeated in the Dominican Republic, Thailand, Brazil, and Colombia threads. If she is out for money then I don't know why she is with me, because I have never given her any yet she continues to come back.
Those of us who LIVE and WORK here encounter members of the 24 million normal women every day. These women have no idea what goes on in bars, Cafe Havana, LA Cafe, chat sites etc etc etc and go about their daily business in a very normal way.I lived there a number of years, running business's, living amongst the common folk. I respectfully disagree with this. My perception is prostitution is far bigger than the tip of the iceberg that the one week wonders see during there brief sex tourist visits. By far most urbansied Pinay's are all too well aware of prostitution activities. Just like western countries not all women are Full timers. The desperation to leave this wretched environment blurs the line between straight P4P & gold digging.
It is WRONG to categorize all filipinas as being LBFMs or women who will go with anyone, anytime, but I hear such assertions made regularly as though every woman is available if you put in enough time and money.Agreed 100%. Regardless of how endemic & widespread prostitution is in PI and how mercenary women are about gold digging, it is simply wrong to assume all are P4P.
Women in chat sites and bars and even "pick-up girls" in malls represent a very small portion of the total female population, and, in GENERAL terms, they are from the bottom level of the pond (with, of course, exceptions, as with any generalizations).It's really hard to put a precise figure on this, but again, my experience is that this is the tip of the iceberg.
Cheers mate.
AV
GoodEnough
04-17-14, 13:19
Unsurprisingly I suppose, I'm with RK on this subject. I've worked with a lot of highly intelligent, well educated Filipinas during my 10+ years here and fortunately I continue to do so. While I'm sure many of them were and are knowledgeable about the pervasiveness of poverty here, and about the prostitution that ensues from it, none are desperate to leave the country, all have good jobs, and none are searching for Western men to whisk them away. These women would not be caught dead in Café Havana or any similar establishments. Cultural differences notwithstanding they are as "normal" as well educated, upper middle class Western women.
I understand that guys here for a short time, with the objective of getting laid as frequently as possible with as many women as possible, have a somewhat more truncated perspective than RK and others who live here. But believe me, the skewed perspective of all or most women as available, ready to open heir legs for promising foreigners, is largely fiction. I think I'm safe in saying that most of the women with whom I've worked, or with whom I'm friendly would be repulsed by the archetypal fat guy in a tee shirt with cheap shorts and plastic sandals.
GE
These are the women who work in the sex industry, and some are on dating sites and chat sites and roam around malls looking for pick-ups. Let's be generous and say they number 1 million.
The other 24 million filipinas are going about their everyday life without having ever met a foreigner or even contemplated having sex with one.That sounds about right to me. Out of those 25 million, I've tried to get at a couple thousand. I've gotten to be text mates with a few hundred, but only gotten less than 10% of those to actually meet up. Then that of course is no guarantee for anything but maybe a snack. I find that even on the dating sites allot of times they are just curious and when it comes down to it, they don't have any intention of ever meeting. (Unless of course they're obvious players) So many I've met just love texting and asking allot of questions. I have a note page in my phone with standard replies I just copy and paste. Allot of times I have the answer ready before they even ask the next one. Then every couple months I start at the bottom and go back up, tell them I been patiently waiting.
Great Muta
04-17-14, 19:29
Very interesting discussion here.
As respectfully as possible, I want to mention that I'm in my 20's and haven't paid for sex (yet). I'd like to think I have a different perspective since the girls are in my age range. Nothing wrong with chasing girls younger than you, just I'm a few years away from it. I can go up to a girl and can make it happen without cash.
I do think that most Filipino's know there is a ton of bad shit going down in Philippines on a daily basis. They might not mention it or talk about it, but they know. I don't think they give 2 shits though about what bar girls are doing. That subject has never came up unless I brought it up and even then, there's not much discussion on it. It's like this:
"So what do you think of bar girls?"
"They are dirty or bad, blah blah"
"Okay, great"
I don't give a shit myself about issues like that in my country, so I don't see why they would.
Do all girls want the foreign dick? No, but I think the average non-Filipino has a better shot at a girl than the average Filipino. I don't even think it is a question. Same goes for guys here. An average white girl or an average asian comes up to them and they have to choose one, I'm thinking they are going for the asian just because its different. No matter who you are, some girls just won't be interested in you, but I think being white is enough to get your foot in the door and give you a leg up on someone else.
Are all girls only P4P? Hell no. I've met tons of girls who wouldn't go for it for all the cash in the world. Have also met others who you aren't getting with unless you make a donation. The majority don't require money.
I saw the 10% fuck to fail ration thrown around and I do think it is correct.
I do agree that the girls most of us come in contact with are as Red-Kilt put it "bottom of the pond". I've met few who weren't otherwise. But hey, most of the Philippines is poor, so naturally, most of the girls we are going to meet are poor as well. It just makes sense.
. It is funny who is scamming who on these dating sites. The cheap charlie looking for free pussy or the poon looking for easy money. Either way the legit looker / lookee will get scammed at least once.I moved this from the "General Info" thread.
You make a fair point Dg.
Many of the guys who complain about scammers on chat sites are themselves spinning a web of tales as well so just accept that it goes both ways. Guys also need to remember that any girl who has an attractive photo / s on any chat site is going to get many, many messages from other guys apart from their message.
I met a girl last week for snacks and a coffee (with her 2 friends, all 3 of whom are on PL) , and they are all quite attractive but with fairly straight forward photos. Nothing extra hot or anything.
They each told me that they get between 10 to 20 messages every day from guys, and they delete EVERY one if the guy is not actually in the Philippines when he sends the message.
They readily met me because they knew I lived in Manila and I agreed to meet them in a mall of their choosing. They also liked that my profile was direct and frank and told them exactly who I wanted to meet, and why.
These girls, and many others I suspect, are obviously also getting really experienced at spotting the "fakes".
It was very revealing to me to hear what they said about the bullshit that guys try to spin to them when they send a message.
Have a look at the number of profiles that now say "I am tired of guys telling me bullshit and lies, and that they will come and meet me when they have no intention of doing so".
It appears (although I think we already knew this) , that many guys (probably not serious travellers like ISG members) , just go online as a form of entertainment to chat with pretty girls on the other side of the world, promise them idiotic things and live out some fantasy with absolutely no intention of visiting the Philippines. The 3 girls that I met for coffee and snacks were obviously sifting these guys out from the pile by just deleting them and ignoring them, but those who take the bait and then get burned by these keyboard warriors obviously get very antagonistic towards foreigners in general.
I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message.
It was very revealing to me to hear what they said about the bullshit that guys try to spin to them when they send a message.Well said, Red. It brings cheer to my heart to learn the girls are getting smarter about the nonsense guys tell them, and when they delete overseas senders' messages outright it works to my benefit. Yours too.
Wicked Roger
04-23-14, 14:29
Another interesting and well-informed post by RK.
I just want to add that there are always exceptions to the rule. I first communicated with a certain DIA gal a few years ago, but every time I was on her particular island, she was busy with this and that. IN the beginning she was a student, then intern, then working somewhere unexpected. This gal was elusive. I added her on FB and for a while she was "in a relationship", and then she wasn't. She is petite, but the pictures were never revealing. An enigma.
She could put two or three sentences together coherently, so I guess that is one big reason I kept on "courting" her.
Earlier this year she just happened to be in the same city as I and was available to meet. Great, but there was the condition that only if she could finish some chores she had come to town to take care of. Later, I was informed that she hadn't finished the chores, but suggested we meet and I could tag along at location xyz. She presented this politely and I was tempted to just blow it off. Give a woman an inch and she'll take a mile, went thru my mind. Pun unintended, but suitable for this little story.
Spoiler alert, this has a very happy ending.
We met, we ate at a food court, did her chores, walked around a bit, I held her hand crossing streets (I was scared!) , did something fun in the city that she wasn't expecting, got tired, went to my hotel, relaxed, disrobed (the view was better than expected) , pleasured each other, she rushed off very late for her subsequent appointments.
She actually whispered the "lv" word, but I'm guessing that was "in a relationship" guy because she seemed more surprised than me when it came out of her mouth.
I moved this from the "General Info" thread.
You make a fair point Dg.
SNIP SNIP SNIP.
I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message.
and they delete EVERY one if the guy is not actually in the Philippines when he sends the message. it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message.Hmm I've been fairly successful meeting girls by contacting them well in advance but I do send several messages and try to get to know them a little bit.
Mr Enternational
04-23-14, 15:51
I just want to add that there are always exceptions to the rule. I first communicated with a certain DIA gal a few years ago, but every time I was on her particular island, she was busy with this and that. IN the beginning she was a student, then intern, then working somewhere unexpected. This gal was elusive.
Spoiler alert, this has a very happy ending.
We met, we ate at a food court, did her chores, walked around a bit, I held her hand crossing streets (I was scared!) , did something fun in the city that she wasn't expecting, got tired, went to my hotel, relaxed, disrobed (the view was better than expected) , pleasured each other, she rushed off very late for her subsequent appointments.Exactly. This thing works both ways in every place you meet women online for dating and many times not as happy as X Man's outcome. What was her reason for having so many excuses at the beginning?
Hmm I've been fairly successful meeting girls by contacting them well in advance but I do send several messages and try to get to know them a little bit.Note the final line in my post DC.
I said "I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message".
There are ALWAYS exceptions to every rule but I still stand by my opinion, despite what you say DC.
Guys report their success stories and conveniently ignore the non-responders.
If chat site users kept a serious log of their successful outcomes versus their "no responders" and then costed their time spent online I suspect that they would get a nasty surprise.
Member #4351
04-24-14, 03:39
Yes R. K, but remember that there are a number of guys with no lives on this forum whose main hobby is chatting on DIA, FC, PL etc. It is easy to see who they are because they are constantly posting about this girl or that girl but rarely if ever are actually in the Philippines. I can only imagine how dismal their lives are that all they have to look forward to is chatting with (and probably lying to) some unfortunate Filipinas. I hope that this is quoted so that one of these losers (put on my ignore list by Jackson after I got fed up with the stupid posts all over the forum looking for large boobs.) reads it.
Note the final line in my post DC.
I said "I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message".
There are ALWAYS exceptions to every rule but I still stand by my opinion, despite what you say DC.
Guys report their success stories and conveniently ignore the non-responders.
If chat site users kept a serious log of their successful outcomes versus their "no responders" and then costed their time spent online I suspect that they would get a nasty surprise.
If chat site users kept a serious log of their successful outcomes versus their "no responders" and then costed their time spent online I suspect that they would get a nasty surprise.Great point, Red. The log keeping is one idea I've thought of, too. Of course it is a hobby, and for some of us including me it may even be an obsession for a while, especially for the few several months. To me the pay off is greater still than the time invested, which is 1-2 hours a day 4 or 5 days a week.
From the get go I invested my time in those girls who initiated contact by sending me a canned interest message, making me a favourite, or sending me a real message. I figured those girls were attracted why the lure were the the easiest to catch. The only initiative I took was merely visiting profiles of girls I found attractive. I wouldn't even send an interest message for the first 8 months or so; I do send interest messages nowadays. To the girls who initiated contact I replied asking whether they read my sexually explicit profile and did they understand what I was looking for. I'd say 70% never replied or stated they weren't interested. Thus rather quickly I filtered out those who aren't receptive. Of the remaining 30% I'd say 2/3rds agreed to come to my place. I've had a handful of no-shows. There has been seven girls so far who came yet wouldn't join me in bed. One returned two days later and we fucked then and on several occasions thereafter, but her insistence of condoms eventually soured my interest. One girl wanted to return a few days later but I ignored her messages. So five genuine in-my-condo rejects and a half dozen no-shows in a year and a half. Those are results I can live with.
Note the final line in my post DC.Fair 'nuff. Yes, a lot of DIAs turn into MIAs (missing in action).
Good question. From what I know of her and what I see online, her excuses were legit. She's a busy lady, I'm a busy guy.
Exactly. This thing works both ways in every place you meet women online for dating and many times not as happy as X Man's outcome. What was her reason for having so many excuses at the beginning?
The log keeping is one idea I've thought of, too. Of course it is a hobby,Thanks for that analysis and for sharing your log. Made me think of my batting average, which I'll share only because it touches on the advantage / disadvantages of starting early like you guys discussed.
I was one of those kooks that signed up for FC six months before I left home. I had folders full of contacts from every city in the Visayas. I don't know how many hundreds or thousands I chatted. By the time I arrived, there were exactly 2 (two) that I met. But they were the top picks.
I met one in Dumaguete but she was from Ozamiz. This girl was HOT! Guapa, exotic, awesome body, dressed in a tight sexy skirt. 18, one previous BF, and just a bit naughty. I was elated. I think she was the hottest girl I ever saw in Dgte in the following 4 months. But then in this sexy Latina sounding voice, she says "Brrreak my heart and I'll keell you". I didn't come here with any intention to break hearts, but fuck that. Things can happen.
Met the other one in Daanbantayan, N. Cebu. (I wrote a FR on this) She is 19 but in her picture looks 16. Super pretty, hundreds of FB pics, all beautiful. Well, in person the face is a bit rough but perfect body, beautiful round ass and very dark. But she's super serious, looking for love only. We agreed we're not the right match, but I lured her into my room promising not to bang her. Ended up eating that hot pussy all afternoon, shot one in her face, but kept my promise anyway. I think it was X Man that commented, he hopes I know I should have banged her.
Since I been here, I've met 3 more out of hundreds I've chatted with. One real sweetheart in Davao and we shagged like rats a few times. But she has a kid and eventually I moved on. One came to my place and started talking about money so that knocked my dick in the dirt. And one came to my apartment last night. We talked for a while, then laid on my bed for a while and she let me kiss the back of her shirt for a while. She didn't return my text today, must have thought I rushed things.
So depending on how I log it, I'm either batting a 400, or I'm only around 2 out of 1000. Hope that's of some interest to someone.
FreebieFan
04-25-14, 01:54
. Super pretty, hundreds of FB pics, all beautiful. Well, in person the face is a bit rough but perfect body, beautiful round ass and very dark. .
Since I.Your story about the lack of correlation between pics and the real person brings to mind an incident back when I lived in Manila. Met a gal on ym, who had some highly interesting name such as asianexoticgoddess (I can't recall it full so don't go searching for it ). We had many chats and eventually she shared some photos and then some videos and she was hot. She married a Filipino laywer but continued to share pics and she was truly the hottest girl I'd seen on camera adn video.
Took me two years to get her phone number. Anyways one day I announced my Manila assignment was over, and I would like to meet her, just once before I left. We met somewhere in GB. She was small slim mousy and decidedly rough.
How could this girl with such a hot body be this person that was sitting across from me.
All my fantasies were shot and shriveled. Cute girl though and good memories.
Good question. From what I know of her and what I see online, her excuses were legit. She's a busy lady, I'm a busy guy.Surely X Man has the best picture of that girl's situation. But in general, filipinos are not "married to career" as some people are in other countries. Socializing is an important part of their life, they always have time for socializing. If she's busy, it means there's no room for you at the moment in her socio-sexual life. She's been sexually active since her mid-teens. She's attractive, right? They way you met her, others have met her too. She has a "batch", as they put it, of former playmates and classmates. If she's top of your "must fuck" list, keep in touch and maybe an opening will develop.
What gets me is the "loser" girls-no school, no work, stay-at-home, who say they are busy with house work. Well in some cases their situation is semi-employment, semi-servitude, and they have limited opportunity to go out. But as I see it, my housekeeper does a bigger house, plus laundry, in 3 or 4 hours. So the "busy" girls are really indolent.
Mr Enternational
04-25-14, 06:12
Surely X Man has the best picture of that girl's situation. But in general, filipinos are not "married to career" as some people are in other countries. Socializing is an important part of their life, they always have time for socializing. If she's busy, it means there's no room for you at the moment in her socio-sexual life. She's been sexually active since her mid-teens. She's attractive, right? They way you met her, others have met her too. She has a "batch", as they put it, of former playmates and classmates.I had one like that in Quezon City who was always busy working and studying to be a paramedic. She never had time to meet me, only excuses. She said that she would probably go work in Dubai for a while, but that never came to pass. Next thing I know she is getting married and moving to Seattle. Well obviously she had time for somebody to go from always too busy to married and moving overseas; that somebody just happened to not be me. It's all a numbers game. Just like lotto, you got to be in it to win it. So, don't be afraid to place your bets.
Well obviously she had time for somebody to go from always too busy to married and moving overseas; that somebody just happened to not be me.Mr E, Thanks for the chuckle. LOL
I was about 100 words in, when I got a disconnect. Damn. Other than the term "loser", I basically agree with what is written here. The face that she is educated and interesting was one of the main factors I kept in touch. It was worth it. X.
Surely X Man has the best picture of that girl's situation. But in general, filipinos are not "married to career" as some people are in other countries. Socializing is an important part of their life, they always have time for socializing. If she's busy, it means there's no room for you at the moment in her socio-sexual life. She's been sexually active since her mid-teens. She's attractive, right? They way you met her, others have met her too. She has a "batch", as they put it, of former playmates and classmates. If she's top of your "must fuck" list, keep in touch and maybe an opening will develop.
What gets me is the "loser" girls-no school, no work, stay-at-home, who say they are busy with house work. Well in some cases their situation is semi-employment, semi-servitude, and they have limited opportunity to go out. But as I see it, my housekeeper does a bigger house, plus laundry, in 3 or 4 hours. So the "busy" girls are really indolent.
Thanks for the interesting report. Batting 400 is not a bad average. As for that other average, it depends on how much satisfaction you get out of it. I hate to say it, but it's a bit like gambling. You contact hundreds of gals, and sometimes you get a big payback. Luckily I visit the country two or three times a year. I've been accused of having one hand on the mouse and the other hand on my own personal joystick, but so be it.
Some guys here have the explicit profiles and seem to get a lot of bang for their effort. I'm more laid back and really do the "date in asia" scenario. And I think 400 is about average for me. And some of those are the same gals laying down for the ISGers with the explicit profiles (as has been confirmed a few times).
But I really like the regular gals, ones with something to say and things to do.
Sam, if we use that OTHER batting average, you're doing better than me. LOL. For the guys who live in the Philippines, I really don't know how they balance the debauchary with real life with whatever.
Thanks for that analysis and for sharing your log. Made me think of my batting average, which I'll share only because it touches on the advantage / disadvantages of starting early like you guys discussed.
SNIP.
So depending on how I log it, I'm either batting a 400, or I'm only around 2 out of 1000. Hope that's of some interest to someone.
Great Muta
04-26-14, 14:39
Thanks for that analysis and for sharing your log. Made me think of my batting average, which I'll share only because it touches on the advantage / disadvantages of starting early like you guys discussed.
I was one of those kooks that signed up for FC six months before I left home. I had folders full of contacts from every city in the Visayas. I don't know how many hundreds or thousands I chatted. By the time I arrived, there were exactly 2 (two) that I met. But they were the top picks.
I met one in Dumaguete but she was from Ozamiz. This girl was HOT! Guapa, exotic, awesome body, dressed in a tight sexy skirt. 18, one previous BF, and just a bit naughty. I was elated. I think she was the hottest girl I ever saw in Dgte in the following 4 months. But then in this sexy Latina sounding voice, she says "Brrreak my heart and I'll keell you". I didn't come here with any intention to break hearts, but fuck that. Things can happen.
Met the other one in Daanbantayan, N. Cebu. (I wrote a FR on this) She is 19 but in her picture looks 16. Super pretty, hundreds of FB pics, all beautiful. Well, in person the face is a bit rough but perfect body, beautiful round ass and very dark. But she's super serious, looking for love only. We agreed we're not the right match, but I lured her into my room promising not to bang her. Ended up eating that hot pussy all afternoon, shot one in her face, but kept my promise anyway. I think it was X Man that commented, he hopes I know I should have banged her.
Since I been here, I've met 3 more out of hundreds I've chatted with. One real sweetheart in Davao and we shagged like rats a few times. But she has a kid and eventually I moved on. One came to my place and started talking about money so that knocked my dick in the dirt. And one came to my apartment last night. We talked for a while, then laid on my bed for a while and she let me kiss the back of her shirt for a while. She didn't return my text today, must have thought I rushed things.
So depending on how I log it, I'm either batting a 400, or I'm only around 2 out of 1000. Hope that's of some interest to someone.Depending on how long your vacation is (usually won't be very long in USA) , I think you can only meet so many girls anyway. I'm going to want a couple of days of my starting line-up or so each and I'm not sure if there will be any time left for bench warmers. Obviously I'm going to put more effort into the girls who are going to fuck my brains out as opposed to the ones who are too far deep into religion and will need pushed.
Sam, if we use that OTHER batting average, you're doing better than me. LOL. For the guys who live in the Philippines, I really don't know how they balance the debauchary with real life with whatever.You might be surprised if you followed me (and the other local residents) around X Man. It really isn't day by day debauchery as you might imagine, so balancing my life is really quite easy.
I certainly don't indulge in a "feeding frenzy" like those who come for 10 to 20 days, and having a professional career and being expected to present a professional facade in my daily life means that limits need to be in place and some discipline exercised.
Locals soon pick up on errant behavior, and whilst security guards might smile and wink and doormen and room boys might smirk when the 2 week barracudas pass by with 3 or 4 different girls each day, I know that I would lose some respect if I flaunted that sort of behavior in front of them in my situation. Of course, physically, I couldn't keep it up anyway (pun intended)
I have to be much more circumspect than that, and I don't have any problem with it either.
It averages out.
30 women over 20 days for a visiting monger is about the same as 1 woman every 12 days over the year for someone like me.
Radical Guy
04-26-14, 21:33
Many folks on this forum find it necessary to tell girls that they have no intention of getting married, and only want sex. I see no reason for this level of honesty, and find that leaving the options "open" make many more regular ladies available. I don't expressly lie to girls, and say I am looking for a wife, but I do tell them that I am looking for a special lady, and that if things really click, it's possible that I might want to get married. With that possibility on the table, I find that the girls fall all over themselves to make me happy, with the hopes that they might be "the one" I pick.
I don't find my approach to be inherently dishonest or immoral, since my last Filipina ex-wife was someone that I was initially not looking to marry, but she ultimately stole my heart, and we were married for 7 years before she betrayed me and moved on to greener pastures. I say, to hell with them! If one of these girls gets a broken heart, well welcome to the real world! Sure, it's "possible" that I might go temporarily insane again and marry one of them (someone please slap me good if I do!), so I see no reason to show all my cards and disclose that I am just looking to get laid- again and again. And I am always financially generous to these girls anyway, so what's wrong in letting them "assume" that I'm looking for a wife? Hell, these bitches will use every trick and deception in the book to get their precious green card and ticket to the US, so what's wrong with using their agenda to my advantage?
RG
Mr Enternational
04-26-14, 22:39
And I am always financially generous to these girls anyway, so what's wrong in letting them "assume" that I'm looking for a wife? Hell, these bitches will use every trick and deception in the book to get their precious green card and ticket to the US, so what's wrong with using their agenda to my advantage?The problem is that not everybody is looking for money for sex or a green card. You are asserting that because person A (random female trickster) got over on person B (random unsuspecting male), then it is quite alright for person C (you) to mislead/deceive person D (a random unsuspecting female) - because you are going to give her a lot of money anyway.
Mr Enternational
04-26-14, 23:04
You might be surprised if you followed me (and the other local residents) around X Man. It really isn't day by day debauchery as you might imagine, so balancing my life is really quite easy.
I certainly don't indulge in a "feeding frenzy" like those who come for 10 to 20 days, and having a professional career and being expected to present a professional facade in my daily life means that limits need to be in place and some discipline exercised.When you live in a place you tend to develop a routine and a normal life. Do you think people who live in Orlando go to Disney World everyday? They would end up burnt out and broke before long, plus they have other things they need to do the same as you have when you are home. Living in Pattaya it takes all I have when friends are in town and want me to go down to Walking Street. Hell, I'm usually in the bed by 10. I remember my first few trips of mongering in Rio. There was never any sleep to be had the first 24 hours. My personal record there was 11 girls in 3 days. Looking back, I don't know how in the hell I accomplished that one. I certainly could not do it now. A shot during the day and a shot at night is the most I need now, if that. My frenzy days are over. And like X said, I like to hang out with the regular girls, but when I want some debauchery I know where to find it.
Same here X. I'm usually sound asleep by 9:30 or 10:00 pm Even when I was going up to Angeles for work, I wouldn't be able to keep up with the tornado pace of that place for a week. Fields Avenue, Ermita and Malate are anomolies of this country. I'm sure you know that but alot of board members don't. The other 99. 5% of it remains very conservative.
There was much less paranoia when I lived in a condo as everybody was always behind closed doors. The guards didn't give a rat's ass about what I did. Now I'm in a large subdivision and the women are sweeping the sidewalks and kids are walking the dogs by 6:30 a. m. All of the kanos here are pretty much on the same page too. We all know that gossip is one of the favorite sports here and the blabbermouth women of the neighborhood here are ready to chica chica at a moment's notice, be it true, false, pertinent or irrellevant. Those nosey women though increase confidence of safety and security as they don't miss anything.
Member #4387
04-27-14, 09:33
Like radical guy I have fallen off my high horse long time ago and due to gf back home life has become quite a hidinggame. Many people considering not telling the truth aka hiding same as lying. I have used many various approaches in my datingsiteprofiles also the one Radical Guy is describing. Some sort of personal research I guess, what is working and what is not working. What I have never done so far is to mention marriage in either one of them (marriage I have never considered anyway both in real life or in the datingsite world). Sometimes I add BS like "I am realy not looking into anything serious right now as I recently turned single but on the other hand you never know when the big L hits. Maby you will be the one?" Pure and utterly BS but probably also to some extent true as you realy never know hehe.
I realy don't see so much different in keeping a VERY direct to the point profile vs writing a more "in between the lines" profile. Both makes me able to meet seemingly good girls looking for some nice time. Hell I even leave, what I expect to be the more hardened gems, alone as in "no go". Those I can pick at typical FL venues anyway.
If we reverse the situation many of them seemingly good girlies out there looking for serious commitments, the one and only love of their lifes, only willing to meet God fearing man age 25 to 30 they can easily press interest in me and arrive a few hourse later for some hankypanky (I am 41 and by far God fearing). If you realy want to check how good a girl is just create a fake profile and hit her and you will see what she is made of (I know a few doing this and they get surprised they are not the only guy she is after even if she stands out like mother theresa). If your girl are actively doing 2/3 facebook accounts, ym, wheechat, viber, fubar, whatsapp, dia, fc, pl, tinder, instagram, twitter, and so on you are probably not the only one. It is just the nature if you meet a girl through social medias these days.
So the lying or hiding I believe go both ways. I never expect the girls to be honest with me and as long as they show up on time and are ready for some good fun we are all happy. The girl gets when she meets me compensated and I treat them nice when we are together. I think that is the main point.
The mongering in general are a hidden part of my life only my very best friends know about. The rest thinks I am a fairly decent chap with a great moral. I monger to have a break from the real world.
Hi guys,
Just talk a nice gal in dia, she is in urgend need of some help, she is in cebu and was ready to meet me, she sounds nice and fun,
She like any sex including BJ and eat pussy, if someone is around and interested to help her, her profile is Romanticthoughts, anyway,
I don't know her in real and cannot tell if she is real and good girl. She has ym also to talk in detail, as it is very easy to get blocked
In dia this days.
Sam
Many folks on this forum find it necessary to tell girls that they have no intention of getting married, and only want sex. I see no reason for this level of honesty, and find that leaving the options "open" make many more regular ladies available. I don't expressly lie to girls, and say I am looking for a wife, but I do tell them that I am looking for a special lady, and that if things really click, it's possible that I might want to get married. With that possibility on the table, I find that the girls fall all over themselves to make me happy, with the hopes that they might be "the one" I pick.
I don't find my approach to be inherently dishonest or immoral, since my last Filipina ex-wife was someone that I was initially not looking to marry, but she ultimately stole my heart, and we were married for 7 years before she betrayed me and moved on to greener pastures. I say, to hell with them! If one of these girls gets a broken heart, well welcome to the real world! Sure, it's "possible" that I might go temporarily insane again and marry one of them (someone please slap me good if I do!) , so I see no reason to show all my cards and disclose that I am just looking to get laid- again and again. And I am always financially generous to these girls anyway, so what's wrong in letting them "assume" that I'm looking for a wife? Hell, these bitches will use every trick and deception in the book to get their precious green card and ticket to the US, so what's wrong with using their agenda to my advantage?
RGHaving been with many normal girls in Phi, I would say it does not matter what you say to them. These days most girls know the ways of the world anyway. They have been there and done it. First by their Phi boyfriends and later with foreigners. However they hope some day someone will fall head over heels like you did for a better life.
There are some real virgins there who would meet you for a commitment. Few girls I know told me they can arrange virgins for me if I commit myself marriage or if not at least steady GF relationship and support. These girls should not be trifled with for purely moral reasons.
I have had few real virgins in Phi but I told them upfront that I am a playboy and will not commit. They were happy with the arrangement. Some of them I still see sometimes.
Like you said deception can go both ways but I believe promising something you do not intend to do to get into their pants is morally wrong.
Great Muta
04-27-14, 16:19
Hi guys,
Just talk a nice gal in dia, she is in urgend need of some help, she is in cebu and was ready to meet me, she sounds nice and fun,
She like any sex including BJ and eat pussy, if someone is around and interested to help her, her profile is Romanticthoughts, anyway,
I don't know her in real and cannot tell if she is real and good girl. She has ym also to talk in detail, as it is very easy to get blocked
In dia this days.
SamFinding girls who want to fuck you for money isn't anything special in the Philippines.
Great Muta
04-27-14, 16:34
Having been with many normal girls in Phi, I would say it does not matter what you say to them. These days most girls know the ways of the world anyway. They have been there and done it. First by their Phi boyfriends and later with foreigners. However they hope some day someone will fall head over heels like you did for a better life.
There are some real virgins there who would meet you for a commitment. Few girls I know told me they can arrange virgins for me if I commit myself marriage or if not at least steady GF relationship and support. These girls should not be trifled with for purely moral reasons.
I have had few real virgins in Phi but I told them upfront that I am a playboy and will not commit. They were happy with the arrangement. Some of them I still see sometimes.
Like you said deception can go both ways but I believe promising something you do not intend to do to get into their pants is morally wrong.I can totally see this situation from both sides:
- Why lie? Have chances with a larger portion of girls and things just move more smoothly. Also have girls more willing to fuck your brains out. I also just can't see me ever being with one girl only. Different girls bring out certain things in me that others can't and can do things others can't and while I like burgers, some days I like chicken or pizza better. Still love burgers, but variety is the spice of life. Maybe I want a burger and some pizza, maybe I want something different like pork.
- Why not to lie? Right now I have a girl or two making concessions for me that I really wish they wouldn't. I've tried to discourage them from doing so as much as possible because I don't want to screw up people's lives. Getting married and having kids isn't even a thought in my brain in the moment while some of these girls live for it. You can tell these girls in 10 different languages that you aren't down for it and they won't change.
I think pretty much all filipina's expect you to have someone else. Some may even accept it. Even when you are honest, most filipina's already have your whole story written in their head already.
I also think a lot of these girls are blinded by their religions and don't have the education to learn how to plan and make long term decisions. These girls are thinking to not for 10 years down the line, but for today only.
In the long term, I think it's better to be honest. But I do think we all have to remember that at the heart of this, we still are a "get out of jail free card" for even the most truthful girls there. Even the most purehearted girls would be lying to admit they wouldn't love to get out of their situations. I know I wouldn't have a problem with a lie here or there if it meant my life and my families lives were going to be way better off.
Hi Great Matu,
I know that, I travel many times in Phil. She did like to meet me as she need help. As I am not in Cebu this days, she did ask me if I have a friend she could meet. I only did try to do her a favour as she was really nice chatting. Sorry if you got it wrong, my English is basic only and I am not a native speaker. Sorry if my message did bother the Forum at all.
Sam
AirlineCrew
04-28-14, 08:45
I can totally see this situation from both sides:
- Why lie? Have chances with a larger portion of girls and things just move more smoothly. Also have girls more willing to fuck your brains out. I also just can't see me ever being with one girl only. Different girls bring out certain things in me that others can't and can do things others can't and while I like burgers, some days I like chicken or pizza better. Still love burgers, but variety is the spice of life. Maybe I want a burger and some pizza, maybe I want something different like pork.
- Why not to lie? Right now I have a girl or two making concessions for me that I really wish they wouldn't. I've tried to discourage them from doing so as much as possible because I don't want to screw up people's lives. Getting married and having kids isn't even a thought in my brain in the moment while some of these girls live for it. You can tell these girls in 10 different languages that you aren't down for it and they won't change.Interesting discussion.
I'm doing a bit of both, since I'm married I of course lie to my wife about fooling around. Well I don't actually lie to her but the topic of me cheating just never comes up (and I want to keep it that way) So instead of lying I just withold information.
To girls however I made up a story that is as close to the truth as it can be. It makes it easier to remember the lie. I kinda made it into an other reality. When I'm not home I am a married guy but my wife lets me play.
Still a lot of girls don't want to talk to you when you mention you are married, but when you say that it's ok, my wife lets me play you would not believe how many girls will be fine with it.
Why they will ever believe that story is beyond me. Even smart intelligent high educated girls don't seem to mind at all. And I get no drama of girls wanting to marry me, although on occasion one will fall in love with me and I did need to cut some girls away and find new ones. (sadly one of the best fucks I ever had and enjoyed a lot of non-sexual fun time with, fell in love with me at some point)
This also makes the girl not suspicious when I text my wife that everything is ok. I can see they don't like it but they all put up with it if I'm on Skype with my wife telling about my day. (never on videocall of course, I just tell my wife that wifi is bad and most of the time it's true)
So basically I'm a lying bastard to both my wife and the girls, but I try to make the lie stay as close to the truth as possible, they know I'm married and that a relationship other than a sexual one is out of the question. Of course this means that sometimes your favorite girl in unavailable because she is dating another guy, but really when have we ever thought they were not fucking multiple guys when you are away right?
Cheers.
ALC
Member #4387
04-28-14, 09:06
Of course this means that sometimes your favorite girl in unavailable because she is dating another guy, but really when have we ever thought they were not fucking multiple guys when you are away right?Well there are guys out there (maby not the seasoned crowd inside here though) actually believing their girls are small angels while they are away. I for once have fucked some angels and sometimes they text bf before and after (often creamed up).
Many interesting points and a lot simular to my post a few days back.
FreebieFan
04-28-14, 09:28
Well there are guys out there (maby not the seasoned crowd inside here though) actually believing their girls are small angels while they are away. I for once have fucked some angels and sometimes they text bf before and after (often creamed up).
Many interesting points and a lot simular to my post a few days back.One day, I'd love to get the Top 100 posters / mongers in Manila together.
We could all bring the names, phone number and photos of our top girls.
And I'm fairly sure that we would find that weve all swam in the same pool / s.
And I'm also sure we would find that some of the top girls have all given us different names from different profiles.
We've probably been the creamee and the creamer.
It would be a funny day if it ever happened with lots of " No, you too!".
One of my favourite Indonesians in HK used to meet me outside a mall. I eventually found out that she had her bf drop her at the mall 5 minutes before she was due to meet me. When you think these girls are wet and excited to see you. Just remember you may not be her first that day. LOL
LuvAsianTang
04-28-14, 11:23
Well there are guys out there (maby not the seasoned crowd inside here though) actually believing their girls are small angels while they are away. I for once have fucked some angels and sometimes they text bf before and after (often creamed up).
Many interesting points and a lot simular to my post a few days back.I've had them shush me when they get a call from their bf while I'm fucking them. I just flipped them over and doggied the fuck out of them while they were talking to honey ko. One actually came and had to bury her face in the pillow so honey ko didn't hear.
It's more fun in the Philippines, LAT.
L
Know an old guy from Colorado, USA who sends his 21 yr. old 15,000p every month and she's banging any foreigner friend who happens to be in town. Including me. LOL. He has even taken her outside the Phils for his golfing holidays.
Some never learn.
I've had them shush me when they get a call from their bf while I'm fucking them. I just flipped them over and doggied the fuck out of them while they were talking to honey ko. One actually came and had to bury her face in the pillow so honey ko didn't hear.
It's more fun in the Philippines, LAT.
L
Member #4643
04-29-14, 00:47
Know an old guy from Colorado, USA who sends his 21 yr. Old 15, 000p every month and she's banging any foreigner friend who happens to be in town. Including me. LOL. He has even taken her outside the Phils for his golfing holidays.
Some never learn.The guy likes his girl. I would bet she gives him what he needs. Why would he care if she is monogamous as long as he gets what he wants feom her.
I support a girl in a similar way. She can fuck anyone she wants as far as I am concerned. But, if she doesn't show up when I want her company, its all over. Your friend, like me, is not looking for a wife but a great fuck. If the girl delivers, I am delighted. Guys like me are content. Why should we care otherwise?
Nice Guy 99
04-29-14, 04:06
The guy likes his girl. I would bet she gives him what he needs. Why would he care if she is monogamous as long as he gets what he wants feom her.
I support a girl in a similar way. She can fuck anyone she wants as far as I am concerned. But, if she doesn't show up when I want her company, its all over. Your friend, like me, is not looking for a wife but a great fuck. If the girl delivers, I am delighted. Guys like me are content. Why should we care otherwise?Right on Forest.
Member #4387
04-29-14, 04:58
The guy likes his girl. I would bet she gives him what he needs. Why would he care if she is monogamous as long as he gets what he wants feom her.
I support a girl in a similar way. She can fuck anyone she wants as far as I am concerned. But, if she doesn't show up when I want her company, its all over. Your friend, like me, is not looking for a wife but a great fuck. If the girl delivers, I am delighted. Guys like me are content. Why should we care otherwise?That is good on you Forest and my recent comment was not at all directed at you. It is a free world and guys should do whatever pleases them the most. If you found one spinner who fucks your brains out while your there then kudos.
My comment was directed to many guys believing them small trolls and good heartedly send their hard earned cash through the WU system believing she is monogamous and just sits around waiting for his next return. That is the people I don't feel sorry for at all as they are all grownups but I am concerned how easily people can I e trust their newly met BG and actually believe she will stop whatever she is doing for actually any amount of cash.
Radical Guy
04-29-14, 12:05
The guy likes his girl. I would bet she gives him what he needs. Why would he care if she is monogamous as long as he gets what he wants feom her.
I support a girl in a similar way. She can fuck anyone she wants as far as I am concerned. But, if she doesn't show up when I want her company, its all over. Your friend, like me, is not looking for a wife but a great fuck. If the girl delivers, I am delighted. Guys like me are content. Why should we care otherwise?If all you want is a girl to play with when you are available, and nothing else, why would you provide her with continuous support? I mean, aren't there plenty of girls available at the drop of a hat whenever you feel like partaking of some action? Providing support might make sense if there was an intent to have a serious relationship with a girl, going beyond just sex, but with the availability of fresh meat constantly available, why keep one on retainer?
Please don't take this as a criticism, I am just curious.
RG
I support a girl in a similar way. She can fuck anyone she wants as far as I am concerned.God bless you, sir.
Member #4387
04-30-14, 03:45
I have struggeled getting pinays to actually read profiles but have found out it also comes to photos. For obvious reasons when I use photos in datingsiteprofiles I edit them quite a bit. I don't mean to brag but I edit my pics so I look much uglier than I do in real life. Anyway I have actually also used someone elses pic and what almost all pinays have in common is that they don't seem to notice (or care) at all.
Anyway trying a bit without photo was a pain in the ass as girls somewhat actually noticed and the level of interest lowered dramaticaly atleast in FC and PL. Dia not so much as there a large portion of the girls I believe to be P4P (openly). In other sites atleast they hide it a tad.
Globaly (ex north america, northern europe (scandinavia incl) I find chineese girls hardest to nail out of datingsiteencounters. Them girls over there are sometimes highly educated, probably the oposite to what we sometimes can find in Phils. Not meaning they are stupid or anything but there is a certain x factor making it very easy dealing with phils datingsitecontacts.
Anyone else with same experience (it is all about science, hehe)?
I have struggeled getting pinays to actually read profiles but have found out it also comes to photos. [ S N I P ]
Anyone else with same experience (it is all about science, hehe)?I agree largely with your experiences. I think Pinays act on impulse more than analysing carefully structured profiles. If your objective is freebies, then I don't think that your profile matters much. If you are in PI, then you are a target. So, if you were trying to communicate your situation or objectives in your profile, probably worthwhile to repeat in your first email / Skype or whatever.
But I can certainly say that interesting photos do attract their attention. At one time I had photos of myself flying a microlite over Victoria Falls and another patting a lion. These photos attracted lots of interest. I have never posted without photos, so I can't comment on the responses in that situation. Even when I was in situations where I was concerned about anonymity, I used photos scuba diving, and of a friend. The girls never seemed to mind.
You are right that the better educated Chinese girls use the Cupid type dating sites (bloody PL is getting more money hungry; I used to like it when it was free and unlimited messages). The ordinary Chinese girls tend to use QQ and similar to meet guys. And these same Chinese girls can't be bothered writing emails; too much work, whereas a quick message on WeChat is enough for them!
The majority of Chinese girls on the Cupid type dating sites that I have used are more interested in long term relationships leading to marriage. But there are some happy with short term relationships. If you are in-country and post an attractive photo and profile, you will get heaps of hits. Even the older "left behind" girls (28+) have come to realise that foreign guys are happy to form relationships with them (unlike the Chinese guys).
Just my experiences.
Great Muta
05-02-14, 15:05
China isn't really the place for short term no commitment fuckfests. Sure you can find them and all but the majority of girls are all about getting married and popping out kids ASAP. I know where to find Chinese girls but honestly, almost all of them are as dull as dirt. Just so freaking boring that it negates how hot they are. I don't even bother because Filipina's are way more sociable and fun.
Mongerer69
05-02-14, 20:19
Very Well Said. I agree 200%
China isn't really the place for short term no commitment fuckfests. Sure you can find them and all but the majority of girls are all about getting married and popping out kids ASAP. I know where to find Chinese girls but honestly, almost all of them are as dull as dirt. Just so freaking boring that it negates how hot they are. I don't even bother because Filipina's are way more sociable and fun.
Member #4387
05-03-14, 03:31
China isn't really the place for short term no commitment fuckfests. Sure you can find them and all but the majority of girls are all about getting married and popping out kids ASAP. I know where to find Chinese girls but honestly, almost all of them are as dull as dirt. Just so freaking boring that it negates how hot they are. I don't even bother because Filipina's are way more sociable and fun.Have met a fair number of girls residing and working in Beijing. Some slightly international girls seems to adopt sexual skills rather quick from their more giving sisters down south in asia and are atleast putting up some effort to have some fun. For the most parts I agree they are boring. Easy to nail, but boring. So when I find a skillfull chineese spinner I tend to keep her in for rotation I e my artscam girl (kept her for a couple of years by now).
My biggest turnoff in China is all the bushes (shaving is not very popular so every time I get the chance I do some log work down there making small arrows.).
Wicked Roger
05-03-14, 16:11
My biggest turnoff in China is all the bushes (shaving is not very popular so every time I get the chance I do some log work down there making small arrows.).Well done Skogis, another man who takes forest work seriously. I always carry a wet razor also and even try find the girls a waxing parlour (one friends goes as far as laser treatment).
Well done Skogis, another man who takes forest work seriously. I always carry a wet razor also and even try find the girls a waxing parlour (one friends goes as far as laser treatment).Its all about saving the planet.
Have met a fair number of girls residing and working in Beijing. Some slightly international girls seems to adopt sexual skills rather quick from their more giving sisters down south in asia and are atleast putting up some effort to have some fun. For the most parts I agree they are boring. Easy to nail, but boring. So when I find a skillfull chineese spinner I tend to keep her in for rotation I e my artscam girl (kept her for a couple of years by now).
My biggest turnoff in China is all the bushes (shaving is not very popular so every time I get the chance I do some log work down there making small arrows.).Many traditional Chinese believe that an abundant Bush means the girl is sensuous and passionate (see my recent post on China board about the meaning of different types of pubes).
Filipina are definitely more open and passionate, and even enthusiastic about sex.
Chinese girls (especially from rural areas) , are more traditional and conservative. With regard to sex,"their legs are always open, but their minds are always closed". The Chinese guys from these rural areas are equally conservative, and only expect a quick kiss and 2 minutes of sex. These girls take a lot of effort to educate.
Filipina girls actually demand a lot of their lovers. A non-performer may very well lose favour in short time. But once married and have kids they tend to faithfully stay with their husband, whether good or bad.
On the other hand, many Chinese wives are very willing to cheat on their neglectful husbands, and they often become willing and enthusiastic participants in our sport. There are ISG guys on the China board (such as BnLee2) who specialise in neglected married ladies.
FreebieFan
05-07-14, 04:09
Have met a fair number of girls residing and working in Beijing. Some slightly international girls seems to adopt sexual skills rather quick from their more giving sisters down south in asia and are atleast putting up some effort to have some fun. For the most parts I agree they are boring. Easy to nail, but boring. So when I find a skillfull chineese spinner I tend to keep her in for rotation I e my artscam girl (kept her for a couple of years by now).
My biggest turnoff in China is all the bushes (shaving is not very popular so every time I get the chance I do some log work down there making small arrows.).I have as one might expect a good few Chinese freebies that are rotated. They vary from universiyt students to lawyers.
Of them. 50% shave by themselves, and 50% scream like I'm attacking them if I so much as get some scissors near the forest just to trim. Its proving hard to convince them that its a preference, and with the 3 or 4 that have bushes I've given up trying to weed out the undergrowth. They just don't want to do.
My question is about Australia, but I have never posted there as the Philippines is the only thread I have a posting history.
I know from past posts that many members here travel to Australia. My daughter has finally been approved to work there after after many months of getting her RN certification verified there. She has opened a bank account online and is going to take some cash with her. I know in the Philippines it is almost impossible to get travelers cheques cashed. I have tried.
I suggested to her that she take travelers cheques but rethought that advice. Are travelers cheques readily accepted in Australia, without her bank holding funds after they are deposited? If so what are most widely accepted? I have always used American Express when I have traveled and have never had any issues other than in the Philippines. She could bring cash, but of course is reluctant to take too much. Alternatively she could just do a debit card withdrawal, but then of course will be faced with daily maximums and fees.
So the good news is that I have been waiting for her to move to Australia and told her that when she is in Aus, I would go back to the Philippines then on to Australia to visit her. The bad news is that she has decided that perhaps she should come visit me in the Philippines instead as I have been telling her about all the historical sites and museums I have visited. That may put a bit of a damper on my DIA ventures. LOL.
Thanks for any advice.
Moth To Flames
05-10-14, 06:06
I have as one might expect a good few Chinese freebies that are rotated. They vary from universiyt students to lawyers.
Of them. 50% shave by themselves, and 50% scream like I'm attacking them if I so much as get some scissors near the forest just to trim. Its proving hard to convince them that its a preference, and with the 3 or 4 that have bushes I've given up trying to weed out the undergrowth. They just don't want to do.Meanwhile, over on the InternationalSlutsGuide forum, there are Chinese girls reporting that they are having difficulty convincing their laowai lovers that not shaving down below is a preference...
My question is about Australia, but I have never posted there as the Philippines is the only thread I have a posting history.
I know from past posts that many members here travel to Australia. My daughter has finally been approved to work there after after many months of getting her RN certification verified there. She has opened a bank account online and is going to take some cash with her. I know in the Philippines it is almost impossible to get travelers cheques cashed. I have tried.
I suggested to her that she take travelers cheques but rethought that advice. Are travelers cheques readily accepted in Australia, without her bank holding funds after they are deposited? If so what are most widely accepted? I have always used American Express when I have traveled and have never had any issues other than in the Philippines. She could bring cash, but of course is reluctant to take too much. Alternatively she could just do a debit card withdrawal, but then of course will be faced with daily maximums and fees.
So the good news is that I have been waiting for her to move to Australia and told her that when she is in Aus, I would go back to the Philippines then on to Australia to visit her. The bad news is that she has decided that perhaps she should come visit me in the Philippines instead as I have been telling her about all the historical sites and museums I have visited. That may put a bit of a damper on my DIA ventures. LOL.
Thanks for any advice.I am Australian, and travel there periodically, but I would not have a clue about the acceptability of travellers cheques in Oz. Rather than ask an Australian, I think that you should ask non-Australians who travel there!
My personal preference is to use HSBC. I have accounts in different countries and am able to transfer money free of any Charges, using their internet Global banking. I use their credit and debit cards when appropriate. This also simplifies making payments on your credit cards.
Cheers
I have as one might expect a good few Chinese freebies that are rotated. They vary from universiyt students to lawyers.
Of them. 50% shave by themselves, and 50% scream like I'm attacking them if I so much as get some scissors near the forest just to trim. Its proving hard to convince them that its a preference, and with the 3 or 4 that have bushes I've given up trying to weed out the undergrowth. They just don't want to do.One tactic that has worked for me is to trim myself first and show her how good it looks. She then trimmed herself unasked.
But with your harem, you would need to buy pubic wigs and trim those!
Of course you can always find and keep natural white tigers!
Cheers
Meanwhile, over on the InternationalSlutsGuide forum, there are Chinese girls reporting that they are having difficulty convincing their laowai lovers that not shaving down below is a preference.Haha. Like I said, I love coughing up fur balls
Wicked Roger
05-10-14, 08:59
I suggested to her that she take travelers cheques but rethought that advice. Are travelers cheques readily accepted in Australia, without her bank holding funds after they are deposited? Thanks for any advice.TCs are not widely accepted and if she has them best get them in Australian dollars IMHO.
I would just get her (or you as her daddy) to deposit funds in her account and she can withdraw using an ATM card. I do thiswhen am going to Australia. Very simple easy and more secure IMHO.
Pip Jaeger
05-10-14, 15:15
I suggested to her that she take travelers cheques but rethought that advice. Are travelers cheques readily accepted in Australia, without her bank holding funds after they are deposited? If so what are most widely accepted? I have always used American Express when I have traveled and have never had any issues other than in the Philippines. She could bring cash, but of course is reluctant to take too much. Alternatively she could just do a debit card withdrawal, but then of course will be faced with daily maximums and fees.Congrats to your daughter, hope it works out well for her in Australia. And if she visits you in the Phils then it looks like you may truly get to experience some local culture, LOL. Maybe plan her visit around some holiday;"Sorry dear, everything's closed".
I used to use Amex TQ's often in Europe (East and West) and N. Africa, but it got harder and harder to find businesses who would accept them; even some banks stopped and most of those who did charged a fee that ranged from 2 to 5%. TQ's are same as cash, so no hold would be placed on them.
As a back up plan, a few money orders could be an option, either Western Union or Money Gram, as any bank will cash them without charging a fee. But I don't know how you would go about getting them in the Phils in AUS currency (if even possible). Guess you could get them in USD, but you'd lose on the exchange rate's spread; especially if she / you had to pay for them first in PHP then subsequently exchange for AUS.
A Debit card is the way to go and, as Ikksman suggested, HSBC is most likely your best option.
Thanks. Good advice. I appreciate it.
Wicked Roger
05-14-14, 01:42
TCs are not widely accepted and if she has them best get them in Australian dollars IMHO.
I would just get her (or you as her daddy) to deposit funds in her account and she can withdraw using an ATM card. I do thiswhen am going to Australia. Very simple easy and more secure IMHO.Amanut.
Just a follow up as was in HSBC the other day and it has a sign saying it no longer accepts TCs and asks customers to check with the TC issuer which banks will encash the TCs. Seems TCs. A product of my youth. Are no longer popular.
Amanut.
Just a follow up as was in HSBC the other day and it has a sign saying it no longer accepts TCs and asks customers to check with the TC issuer which banks will encash the TCs. Seems TCs. A product of my youth. Are no longer popular.Thanks for the advice. I am glad I asked. No travelers cheques were injured as a result of her move. I suggested HSBC, but think I was too late on that one. LOL She transferred some funds to her Aus bank account which she has to have in order for direct deposit of her pay cheques. They said they will hold transferred funds for ten days so no big deal. As you said dad can make deposits here for her if necessary, but the reality is I think she has more money than dad and has access to her account here via ATM until she gets herself organized there.
The best part of her traveling is that I had to sell her old 1991 Jeep with 350,000 km on it. I managed to get it off my driveway plus $1,500 with the purchasers cheque paid to her. Just before she got on the plane she gave me a cheque for $1,500 saying she had never paid for the jeep when I gave it to her many years ago. That covers my airfare back to Phils. It's soon time to get active on DIA again. .
Why are there so few reports on this forum relating successful take-outs from brothels in the Philippines?
Are they too expensive? Are they too dirty? Have they become anti-foreigner (and I know they don't give local price to foreigners)?
They are easy to find! You just ask a taxi driver to take you to a Casa (the Spanish word used as slang for brothels since time immemorial). Taxi drivers used to get commissions for bringing guys to a Casa.
I remember Sammon and Fast Eddie writing about Casas a few years ago, in multiple posts. But AFAIK, only once has there been a recent TR (by Spidy) about PI brothels!
Cheers.
Wicked Roger
05-16-14, 04:05
Just before she got on the plane she gave me a cheque for $1,500 saying she had never paid for the jeep when I gave it to her many years ago. That covers my airfare back to Phils. It's soon time to get active on DIA again.That could be a first. Daughter pays her dad's ticket to monger in the Philippines LOL. Will you share with her your vacation photos? LOL.
If she / you has a HSBC account in the Philippines or anywhere for that matter and she has one and Australia then you can transfer funds immediately.
For transfers to BDO, BPI etc in the Philippines it take 2-3 days from HSBC but to Australia can be longer (I could the bank delay the deposit so as to earn interest on the funds but I would never be so naughty!
Mr Enternational
05-16-14, 06:40
From reading these threads it seems that most guys like to go out and drink and look at chicks in bikinis. I like to get my girls from LA Cafe. I only do LT or free in P.I. In other countries I do go to casas and do ST, but the prices in places like Colombia ($13), Thailand ($12), Brazil ($10), Peru ($8) is much less. The casas in PI want at least 2000 piso ($45) when I am paying a chick from LAC 1000-1500 for LT.
Why are there so few reports on this forum relating successful take-outs from brothels in the Philippines?
Are they too expensive? Are they too dirty? Have they become anti-foreigner (and I know they don't give local price to foreigners)?
They are easy to find! You just ask a taxi driver to take you to a Casa (the Spanish word used as slang for brothels since time immemorial). Taxi drivers used to get commissions for bringing guys to a Casa.
Remember that there is no such thing as a "brothel" in the Philippines because prostitution is illegal.
All the various alternatives are euphemisms for what cannot be called a brothel in the Philippines.
You learned about the casas in Manila from me.
You think you know it all. All along you claimed they did not exist, that I made up lies.
You are a devious and obstinate old man. You owe me an apology for making rash accusations without regards for other bros.
Without offering an apology you are just dumb trash!You will not find any post where I have stated that Casas did not exist in Manila. None, zero, zilch, squat!
I did not even state that fishbowls do not currently exist in Manila. Please RTFF!
I have known about Casas since the time when bars in Manila had signs requesting patrons to hand in their guns (LOL)!
Here's another of your lies from ShenZhen thread in China against your own lies in this thread.Yes, you are right. I had forgotten I wrote in the SZ sub-forum that "from what I have read, fishbowls ceased to exist in both Shenzhen and Manila a number of years ago.".
I apologise for that! However the statement is accurate and not a lie!
But I have never written that Casas do not exist in Manila, which is your original claim. So please be accurate!
I will say no more on the matter as sh#t fights are not productive on forums such as this! And I will again continue to ignore your frequent vitriolic, self-victimized attacks against me!
Remember that there is no such thing as a "brothel" in the Philippines because prostitution is illegal.
All the various alternatives are euphemisms for what cannot be called a brothel in the Philippines.I agree. You are correct. I used the term here because many posters here have also used the word.
I did not wish to confuse some readers in the initial opening of the post by using the term "Casa" or indeed other euphemisms such as "dormitories" or "private apartments".
Still, I am interested why these facilities are so little used by posters here. Again, do some posters use the services of girls that are available in some Love Hotels (which I have personally witnessed)?
Cheers.
Why are discussions about brothels, casas and fishbowls in the Chat Rooms & Pen Pals section?
Why are discussions about brothels, casas and fishbowls in the Chat Rooms & Pen Pals section?I initiated the discussion, and as a relative newbie to this forum, I assumed Chat Room was an appropriate location for discussions.
Should I have posted in the General Info Thread / sub-forum? If so, I am quite happy to transfer discussion.
Cheers.
WestCoast1
05-17-14, 01:28
I initiated the discussion, and as a relative newbie to this forum, I assumed Chat Room was an appropriate location for discussions.
Should I have posted in the General Info Thread / sub-forum? If so, I am quite happy to transfer discussion.
Cheers.Ya. Chat room is for things related to your DIA girls and such.
Member #4387
05-17-14, 11:20
From a nice spinner even with education and seemingly smart I got this funny e-mail making me doubt humanity (atleast the phil part of it):
She: yesterday me and friend drank the tequila bottle you gave me last time we met as it was my birthday.
Me: birthday? You have birthday 16 of June haven't you (I've have seen her passport and date of birth)?
She: yes stupid, hehe, as I told you it was yesterday.
Me (watching soccer): ok, whatever. Hope you did have fun. Bye bye!
Nothing surprises me anymore dealing with pinays. Whats good on her is she will be one month early for our next encounter.
I can understand your confusion and the topic does go off on tangents quite often. The idea of this thread is to share information about the "personals" or chat web sites, and of course the people (usually women, LOL) we find on those sites. You can find p4 p gals on the online sites, but there are also a lot of regular gals who are up for a DateInAsia (DIA). X Man.
I initiated the discussion, and as a relative newbie to this forum, I assumed Chat Room was an appropriate location for discussions.
Should I have posted in the General Info Thread / sub-forum? If so, I am quite happy to transfer discussion.
Cheers.
In case you haven't noticed, pinalove seems to have a glitch at present where a lot of filipinas have Bangkok appearing as their home city.
There must be some problem with a default switch.
I have reported this to the administrator twice already and usually he / she responds within a few hours but this time the issue seems to be getting worse.
Most women are unaware of the problem but it can be corrected once they know about it.
FreebieFan
05-21-14, 02:57
In case you haven't noticed, pinalove seems to have a glitch at present where a lot of filipinas have Bangkok appearing as their home city.
There must be some problem with a default switch.
I have reported this to the administrator twice already and usually he / she responds within a few hours but this time the issue seems to be getting worse.
Most women are unaware of the problem but it can be corrected once they know about it.Had a bizarre conversation yesterday with one... Maybe not the brightest one.
She said she knew she wasnt in Bangkok (as it stated) but was in Pampanga Manila.
I suggested that Pampanga and Manila werent exactly the same place.
She said she was in Pampanga, Manila province.
If these girls werent so cute we would really have no need for them with their general and total dimwittedness. Thankfully theres some who are smarter than the average.
Had a bizarre conversation yesterday with one... Maybe not the brightest one.
She said she knew she wasnt in Bangkok (as it stated) but was in Pampanga Manila.
I suggested that Pampanga and Manila werent exactly the same place.
She said she was in Pampanga, Manila province.
If these girls werent so cute we would really have no need for them with their general and total dimwittedness. Thankfully theres some who are smarter than the average.Most can't find Bangkok, Pampanga or Manila on a map with a GPS.
If she's from another island, she probably does not know the name Luzon. To her, it's Manila. She may say Pampanga instead of Angeles City as a diversion. Does this help to sort things out?
Had a bizarre conversation yesterday with one... Maybe not the brightest one.
She said she knew she wasnt in Bangkok (as it stated) but was in Pampanga Manila.
I suggested that Pampanga and Manila werent exactly the same place.
She said she was in Pampanga, Manila province.
If these girls werent so cute we would really have no need for them with their general and total dimwittedness. Thankfully theres some who are smarter than the average.
If she's from another island, she probably does not know the name Luzon. To her, it's Manila. She may say Pampanga instead of Angeles City as a diversion. Does this help to sort things out?Good thinking, you have a plausible explanation.
But, I wonder if our SYT from another island would also know that AC is in a province called Pampanga?
I have experienced that some girls confuse islands, provinces and cities when I ask questions on PL!
Cheers.
If these girls werent so cute we would really have no need for them with their general and total dimwittedness. Thankfully theres some who are smarter than the average.Ya, but not TOO smart, FF. If they get too smart like western broads then there is all kinds of trouble. I have been thinking about this and I am glad that there are intellectual, infrastructural and economic deficiencies in the PI as long as there is plenty of sweet young wet tiny kikis, trim tummies, little heart-shaped puets and firm sou sous who cares?
Had a bizarre conversation yesterday with one... Maybe not the brightest one.
She said she knew she wasnt in Bangkok (as it stated) but was in Pampanga Manila.
I suggested that Pampanga and Manila werent exactly the same place.
She said she was in Pampanga, Manila province.
If these girls werent so cute we would really have no need for them with their general and total dimwittedness. Thankfully theres some who are smarter than the average.That's OK man. Today I was with one near Sasa, Davao City. It's taken months to get with her because she kept telling me she lives in Bukidnon, some 200 km away up in the mountains. Turns out they all just refer to their place as Bukidnon because there's allot of trees.
Member #4387
05-21-14, 22:53
Just a small observation I don't know if have been discussed amongst BM's before (sorry for not taking the time to check myself). I have come to the conclusion that some girls in datingsites have birthdays relatively often. Maby this is to boost their hits and hoping to meet someone generous out there willing to do some WUing as she can buy herself a "gift"?
In most datingsites you can change your date of birth relatively easy.
Pinaypounder
05-22-14, 00:10
Been to the phils, like the women I have met many and fucked many. Despite the low morlaes of most of them I wish to actually marry one and bring her home. Of course I am not interested in a Bar Girl or a DIA pro or pro / am. I seek a proper smart educated hard working woman who can withstand the rigours of western life and expectations. I am fing tired of sleeping alone here.
I simply spend to much time meeting interviewing and engaging these girls on my frequent trips and want to know 2 things:
A. Is it worth it to marry one, I am talking about an educated mid 30 smart woman, even with a kid cause she aint getting one from me (vasectomy is scheduled).
Be. How can I have some success in this pursuit? Where to look?
PP.
Been to the phils, like the women I have met many and fucked many. Despite the low morlaes of most of them I wish to actually marry one and bring her home. Of course I am not interested in a Bar Girl or a DIA pro or pro / am. I seek a proper smart educated hard working woman who can withstand the rigours of western life and expectations. I am fing tired of sleeping alone here.
I simply spend to much time meeting interviewing and engaging these girls on my frequent trips and want to know 2 things:
A. Is it worth it to marry one, I am talking about an educated mid 30 smart woman, even with a kid cause she aint getting one from me (vasectomy is scheduled).
Be. How can I have some success in this pursuit? Where to look?
PP.I think you have made a wise decision. There are some great educated and nice Pinays out there. As far as to find them, I am not sure where to begin. Maybe in the banking or financial field if that is what interest you or the medical field. I am sure you will be getting some good points on how to find her. Good luck.
FreebieFan
05-22-14, 01:39
Just a small observation I don't know if have been discussed amongst BM's before (sorry for not taking the time to check myself). I have come to the conclusion that some girls in datingsites have birthdays relatively often. Maby this is to boost their hits and hoping to meet someone generous out there willing to do some WUing as she can buy herself a "gift"?
In most datingsites you can change your date of birth relatively easy.Good observation... Yes some girls have indeed been known to have several birthdays in a year...if they can get a few guys to do the WU dance more than once a year why not.
Been to the phils, like the women I have met many and fucked many. Despite the low morlaes of most of them I wish to actually marry one and bring her home. Of course I am not interested in a Bar Girl or a DIA pro or pro / am. I seek a proper smart educated hard working woman who can withstand the rigours of western life and expectations. I am fing tired of sleeping alone here.
I simply spend to much time meeting interviewing and engaging these girls on my frequent trips and want to know 2 things:
A. Is it worth it to marry one, I am talking about an educated mid 30 smart woman, even with a kid cause she aint getting one from me (vasectomy is scheduled).
Be. How can I have some success in this pursuit? Where to look?
PP.LOL. I had these exact same thoughts over 10 years ago when I met my future pinay wife. I shit you not I met her online in a yahoo chatroom. I just kind of randomly started talking to her, she was an OCW working in Hong Kong and shortly after we met she moved to Montreal. I visited her up there and she was able to get a US tourist visa after being in Canada for a short time. We will be married 10 years this coming June.
Anyways there is no good rhyme or reason when dealing with Pinay's or females from any other culture. My wife was fairly well educated before she left the Pinas' and continued her education (medical field) when she arrived here and we were married. We have our ups and downs but I will be damned if I could ever find a better woman. With that said I have seen just as many fucked up educated Pinay's who make terrible housewives. I have a childhood friend who married a LBFM he met in the Top Gun bar outside Subic Bay Naval base back in the 80's and they are still together 30 years and 3 kids later. So in his case he was able to "turn a working girl into a housewife"LOL. Fuck if I was you I would just go over there and start trolling and see who you can meet. In has been my experience and YMMV but I always put alot of stock into the circle of friends a Pinay keeps and also there family life. I have generally found that if friends and family are fucked up then the sweet and innocent Pinay will usually end up causing issues. I lucked out in that area as I am the fucked up one in our relationship.
But I digress as we leave tomorrow for 3 weeks in Bacolod City and our little boy will celebrate his 8th birthday while we are there. I can just picture all those fucking tree creatures acting like a bunch of cockroaches when his birthday party starts. Nothing like throwing a party for a crowd of people who don't know each other.
Good luck I am sure you will do fine in your search, not hard to meet women while in the Pinas'.
There was a period in Angeles city where gals were trying this trick. I haven't seen what you noticed Skogis. What dating site are you using?
X.
Just a small observation I don't know if have been discussed amongst BM's before (sorry for not taking the time to check myself). I have come to the conclusion that some girls in datingsites have birthdays relatively often. Maby this is to boost their hits and hoping to meet someone generous out there willing to do some WUing as she can buy herself a "gift"?
In most datingsites you can change your date of birth relatively easy.
How can I have some success in this pursuit? .PP, they are everywhere and nowhere. I think it is a myth that there is only one woman for each man. Perhaps I am jaded having never tied the knot but all of my married friends are either bored or unhappy; and jealous of my bachelorhood. Should you decide to marry a Pinay I highly recommend you NOT bring her to live in the Western world. She will become quickly tainted by Western ways and turn into the greedy, selfish, unpleasable motor mouth that characterizes Western woman. Certainly there are exceptions but rare. The only intelligent reason to even get married IMHO is if you want kids and you have already decided not to do that. If you prove me wrong I will certainly be happy for you.
Econo Tech
05-22-14, 16:12
. Fuck if I was you I would just go over there and start trolling and see who you can meet. In has been my experience and YMMV but I always put alot of stock into the circle of friends a Pinay keeps and also there family life. I have generally found that if friends and family are fucked up then the sweet and innocent Pinay will usually end up causing issues...This is 100% true as I too found out one too many time.
If the relatives all are employed, or working on their businesses, requests for loans etc will be almost NIL or money borrowed will be returned.
Else forget it. You will be the family ATM.
A. Is it worth it to marry one, I am talking about an educated mid 30 smart woman, even with a kid cause she aint getting one from me (vasectomy is scheduled).
Be. How can I have some success in this pursuit? Where to look?
PP.I'll weigh in on this one since I'm on a search myself.
A. Is it worth it? If you're just looking for a loving companion to grow old with and don't care much about looks, an educated mid 30's with a couple kids would probably be easy to find. I say don't care about looks because anywhere I've been at least, it's going to be extremely hard to find one that's not, well lets just say chubby. Furthermore, probably due to the diet, most of them age hard. So at 40, she may look 55. As opposed to say, an Indonesian. Who at the age of 40 may look 28. I know because I was with an Indonesian from her age of 28-40 and met her whole family and friends. I just got invited to a Pinay's house by her father. I was eying her in the supermarket and her father invited me. Well, she's really hot and her younger sister is unbelievably hot. Her mother looks like something you would see in National Geographic. And your wife may have lolos and titos and cousins and all kinds of emergencies, the same type of thing 19 year old's have.
Also she may get sick before you do. Then you will be taking care of her. But all this is from a relatively newb point of view (less than 2 years) and a purely selfish one which may not be yours. And of course if you do your due diligence, you can be like many guys that have very nice partners that are over the age of what I have in mind, which is 18-21. In fact, I've heard a thousand times that I'm being unrealistic. Separately, I been meaning to inquire on the whereabouts of that discussion on the supposed age gap law. That was really interesting and may be something for guys like me to consider.
Be. I would just say choose a place you wouldn't mind living, a place that has the things you like. Just set up camp there and let God's will work the rest out. That's the advise I get, and there's my two cents worth. Hope it's of interest.
Pinaypounder
05-22-14, 23:46
Sam your observations are correct in my experiences. I would only be interested in superior woman there are a few about 1 in 5000 and she would have to be 15 years younger at least. We agree totally on your observations of diet and health, I can lose a few lbs but still can hike 10 miles with a pack and do 40 pushups.
The cups I also sort of agree but I am tired of sleeping alone, and I have 2 I am negotiating with where I have EXPRESSLY advised them I plan to sleep around do they agree or not, some don't agree my last livein agreed to it and she was a Latin of extreme education and prowess.
I think we can protect them form the shit of the west with a prenup. Fuck up and you get a ticket home!
Keep those thoughts coming!
PP.
Mr Enternational
05-23-14, 00:13
Been to the phils, like the women I have met many and fucked many. Despite the low morlaes of most of them I wish to actually marry one and bring her home. Of course I am not interested in a Bar Girl or a DIA pro or pro / am. I seek a proper smart educated hard working woman who can withstand the rigours of western life and expectations. I am fing tired of sleeping alone here.
I simply spend to much time meeting interviewing and engaging these girls on my frequent trips and want to know 2 things:
A. Is it worth it to marry one, I am talking about an educated mid 30 smart woman, even with a kid cause she aint getting one from me (vasectomy is scheduled).And just how many women of that caliber do you think are actually interested in leaving home following behind some foreigner? And bringing a woman to your land is really asking for it. When she changes on you you will be kicking yourself in the ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5mIL3F5QDA
I would only be interested in superior woman there are a few about 1 in 5000 and she would have to be 15 years younger at least. ...where I have EXPRESSLY advised them I plan to sleep around...
I think we can protect them form the shit of the west with a prenup. Fuck up and you get a ticket home!
April Fools was last month! You have big dreams brother. Ain't no prenupping a woman you bring in from overseas. You are expressly saying to the government that she is your prime responsibility. In other words, YOU are responsible for making sure she has a place to stay, food to eat, and clothes on her back. Ain't no just kicking her out when you get tired of her.
Just a small observation I don't know if have been discussed amongst BM's before (sorry for not taking the time to check myself). I have come to the conclusion that some girls in datingsites have birthdays relatively often. Maby this is to boost their hits and hoping to meet someone generous out there willing to do some WUing as she can buy herself a "gift"?
In most datingsites you can change your date of birth relatively easy.Weird to us but (probably due to poor education) they often share online accounts (email, dating) with other relatives. A lot of what westerners attribute to malice or criminality is often just Pinoy goofiness, nothing more. Its not uncommon.
AV.
Wish you hadn't have given that second paragraph of advice to PP. Sounds like his fantasy would be good fodder for years of posts and laughs. I don't wish misery on anybody but sometimes it has great entertainment value.
the old days are gone. there is a lot of hustle out there.
if you feel a hole in your life and think importing an alimony recipient will fix this, think again.
if you really, really, really must go down this route then listen to this advice.
1) just don't.
2) still determined to? spend some money on a good therapist to deal with your own issues to get your head 'straight' before having to deal with another's peculiarities.
3) still want to? look at your personal wealth & make an honest assessment of how much it will really cost you to find, import & setup your future alimony recipient, including losing 50% when she leaves.
4) seriously you're still wanting this? ok, set aside enough funds to come to the pi to live for 3 - 6 months. stay completely & totally away from bars & dating sites. make friends with people & get introduced to decent educated girls from good families.
5) spend 3 - 6 months getting to know her personally. avoid sex immediately, get to know her & her family first, these will be the recipients of most of your personal wealth.
6) points to look out for: don't marry women from large families, 2 or 3 siblings is your limit. do not marry into a poor family. not wanting children will be a big issue for her, its expected in her culture. she will lie and agree to a childless marriage but when she gets an alimony ring on her finger this will come back to haunt you. you have been warned.
7) see #1.
av.
FreebieFan
05-23-14, 02:16
the old days are gone. there is a lot of hustle out there.
if you feel a hole in your life and think importing an alimony recipient will fix this, think again.
if you really, really, really must go down this route then listen to this advice.
1) just don't.
2) still determined to? spend some money on a good therapist to deal with your own issues to get your head 'straight' before having to deal with another's peculiarities.
3) still want to? look at your personal wealth & make an honest assessment of how much it will really cost you to find, import & setup your future alimony recipient, including losing 50% when she leaves.
4) seriously you're still wanting this? ok, set aside enough funds to come to the pi to live for 3 - 6 months. stay completely & totally away from bars & dating sites. make friends with people & get introduced to decent educated girls from good families.
5) spend 3 - 6 months getting to know her personally. avoid sex immediately, get to know her & her family first, these will be the recipients of most of your personal wealth.
6) points to look out for: don't marry women from large families, 2 or 3 siblings is your limit. do not marry into a poor family. not wanting children will be a big issue for her, its expected in her culture. she will lie and agree to a childless marriage but when she gets an alimony ring on her finger this will come back to haunt you. you have been warned.
7) see #1.
av.i wish you had been my good friend many years ago!
If you really, Really, REALLY must go down this route then listen to this advice.
1) Just don't. (Snip)
5) Spend 3 - 6 months getting to know her personally. Avoid sex immediately, get to know her & her family first, these will be the recipients of most of your personal wealth.
.Sounds like good advise to me. When I mentioned I was on a search, I meant having a GF type of thing and living in the PI. Its hard enough to find someone satisfying and compatible enough to stay with here. I would offer a little different view on Amavida's tip #5. Six months to a year is always honeymoon period. It will never get better than that. I would either live with her for 5 years in her country first, or just take tip #1.
SergeantRay
05-23-14, 04:32
" 3) Still want to? Look at your personal wealth & make an honest assessment of how much it will really cost you to find, import & set up your future alimony recipient, including losing 50% when she leaves."
I personally know several older guys who brought young wives from the Philippines. They are all now divorced, and their wives are remarried to younger men. Once you consider all the money you'll spend in marrying, bringing her home, child support, alimony, lost property, only to see her leave you for a younger man, you might as well just pay some guy several thousand dollars to f! Your wife --the end result is the same.
An Australian friend of mine didn't make it to the Philippines last summer because his wife was divorcing him and seeking tens of thousands of dollars in "compensation." Put yourself in his shoes, having some wench turn on you (after you've supported her and her family for years) and try to take every cent from you. This was at the same time he was undergoing spinal surgery.
Trust me, you don't want to go there.
Sounds like good advise to me. When I mentioned I was on a search, I meant having a GF type of thing and living in the PI. Its hard enough to find someone satisfying and compatible enough to stay with here. I would offer a little different view on Amavida's tip #5. Six months to a year is always honeymoon period. It will never get better than that. I would either live with her for 5 years in her country first, or just take tip #1.Fuckbuddy = Gold!
Girlfriend = Can get expensive quickly, recycle when needed.
Wife = Massive wealth destruction.
AV.
Jack Burton
05-23-14, 08:17
1) Just don't.
7) see #1.
AV.How about arranging to have a woman to be a long-time gf in the Philippines. How much per gf and how much per child? Cheaper than US living and courts. Say I wanted 3 gf and willing to support 8 kids (hers / ours). I'm frugal but not necessarily a Cheap Charlie. Know it can range from close to nothing if she / they have good jobs, but, realistically, are we talking rent / food / school fees / clothes, or more like 1.5 x, 2 x, or and times that?
How about arranging to have a woman to be a long-time gf in the Philippines. How much per gf and how much per child? Cheaper than US living and courts. Say I wanted 3 gf and willing to support 8 kids (hers / ours). I'm frugal but not necessarily a Cheap Charlie. Know it can range from close to nothing if she / they have good jobs, but, realistically, are we talking rent / food / school fees / clothes, or more like 1.5 x, 2 x, or and times that?JB if you mean cohabit with multiple women & knock them all up / or support their Pinoy produced offspring, I know expats down in Dipolog who do just this. The families of these girls happily accept this arrangement. Bear in mind polygamy is very much illegal & that the locals (& the women involved) will consider them 'wives'. You're wide open to retribution if you displease the 'wives' or their blood sucking families.
Keeping multiple women in separate locations simultaneously is also possible but the cost / logistics makes me tired just thinking about it when the number goes above two. Bear in mind that Pinoy's are massive gossips, you will be found out. Count on it.
I know many girls who are strung along on a promise for literally years by an absentee foreigner who sends remittance & visits occasionally. Make no mistake, they are not sexually exclusive to the sponsor whether he know / consents or not.
I know guys who live with a girl unmarried. Many knock them up & support them. Effectively this is marriage without the legalities. Cost depends on location & desired standard of living. You go out to the province, go native & live very cheap. You can buy a nice home in a nice sub division, get a nice car & all the things. Costs more. One of my mates in Dipolog went the 'nice' route & ended up eating a bullet with grief when he caught her shagging a trike driver...
Poorly educated girls from poor families will hang around with you being a gf long term. Highly unlikely an educated girl with a job will unless you are conspicuously wealthy & live in a swanky place.
AV.
Econo Tech
05-23-14, 10:38
Weird to us but (probably due to poor education) they often share online accounts (email, dating) with other relatives. A lot of what westerners attribute to malice or criminality is often just Pinoy goofiness, nothing more. Its not uncommon.
AV.+1.
Been there seen that.
Fuckbuddy = Gold! Girlfriend = Can get expensive quickly, recycle when needed. Wife = Massive wealth destruction. AV.Good summary, Amavida. I also like what you said about multiple girlfriends in different cities and the logistics of all that. Guys, several years ago when I first joined the forum and started traveling more extensively I, too, thought marriage was my goal, A sweet, smart, sexy pinay who will fill my lonely nights here in California. Since then I have been educated on this by many ISGers and also married guys back here in the states. Marriage is a myth propagated by women for women. You'd have to be nuts to go that route. You give up your wealth, your freedom and ultimately your health and happiness. I have seen it too many times from too many seemingly intelligent men who made a bad decision (or several bad decisions). Is it possible to find a good one? Sure. It is possible to win the lottery, too, and your chances are about the same.
My plan? Well I'm late 50's now and have to work about eight more years. So I have some P4 P here in US: a nice, inexpensive brown sugar, who satisfies my sexual needs in between visits to Tijuana, SEA and the Carribean. When I retire in PI in eight I will set up in Cebu or Negros or maybe little Siquijor and have fuckbuddies or GFs in several locations. When I am really old and need healthcare or am less mobile I might consider a sexy nurse live-in with as few relatives as possible who live far away. Marriage? Not for me unless she's got a kid and I want to be a daddy to. But only when I'm in my 80's. You know most DIAs don't care how old you are.
Pinaypounder
05-23-14, 18:24
I appreciate the feedback. I will admit to being odd, I have actually had an arrangement to fuck around with my ex wife, who tolerated it for 3 years and then ruined my life a nice Canadian gal, I will take 75% of the blame there.
The next lady I lived with was a Colombian / Canadian Lawyer highly educated and learned but understood it is many natural instinct to fuck around and frankly accepted that. I prefer to be honest upfront rather than lie I hate lying. And of course I firmly believe what is good for the Goose is good for the Gander IF that is what they want and this is part of my discussion with prospects.
I have had frank discussions with several pinays and found acceptance in women that you would not expect acceptance with BUT now I think I will lie.
If women don't know we are fucking around well then they are stupid and stupid women bore me. It is my opinion they will accept you fucking around as long as you don't embarrass them, you take care of their needs and love them. We all know love is not he same as sex.
And this goes for women around the world. 75 - 85% of my married male friends fuck around and they are married to western women who are NOT retarded. I mean lets be honest here, all of us here fuck around, we know most of our friends fuck around, we all are not fucking the same woman ergo many women also fuck around I have nailed 10 - 15 married women.
I have dated several filipinas outside of those reserved for fucking only and admittedly have not gotten far with with 1 in 5000 girls except for 2 but life prevented me from closing those deals and one I truly regret. Now I am adding the complexity of not producing any more kids which admittedly is a big deal for these women.
I only chat / talk to educated (minimum a degree) women, the others hot or not, bore me quickly. Rather fuck a 5 with a great brain than a 9 with no brain. Good sex is mostly in the brain.
No one should be more cynical than I based on what I have been through for the past 5 years however there are indeed exceptional Pinay women I am trying to develop one now that I would bring here.
The women that interest me are the class of women that make 1 million plus annually in salary in world class companies, you have to dig to find these nuggets that is for sure and I have found them oddly on both DIA and FC.
I appreciate your honest feedback and thoughts, please continue.
PP.
Member #4351
05-23-14, 18:39
The women that interest me are the class of women that make 1 million plus annually in salary in world class companies, you have to dig to find these nuggets that is for sure and I have found them oddly on both DIA and FC.In what age range are you finding these ladies?
Pinaypounder
05-23-14, 18:50
In what age range are you finding these ladies?These women are all in their 30's, I have no real cerebral interest in women younger! My penis however tends to disagree now and again but rarely had good sex with a sub 30 women.
PP.
These women are all in their 30's, I have no real cerebral interest in women younger! My penis however tends to disagree now and again but rarely had good sex with a sub 30 women.
PP.Wholeheartedly agree PP, an intelligent woman who is in touch with her sexuality is very much more satisfying. Dating a professional woman in PI who actually insists on paying instead of me is also very refreshing ;-)
AV.
I personally know several older guys who brought young wives from the Philippines. They are all now divorced, and their wives are remarried to younger men.Times have changed. 20 years ago they would stick. Now, unless you're close to their age & loaded you're going to be roadkill. Its so bad now that my government (Australia) has recently massively increased visa costs for bringing in 'brides'. You're point about infirmity: unless you're loaded don't expect much care. It may come as a shock but her order of priorities are.
- her & her family.
- her close knit friends.
- food.
- shoes & handbags.
- big house & 4 wd.
- her pets.
- her children welfare (note!
- any Pinoy she will ever meet.
- all other Pinoy in the known universe.
- stray animals.
- pot plants.
- you.
You are there to provide genetic material & money.
Believe it.
AV.
LukeSkywalker
05-24-14, 01:36
There will be many big problems when you marry someone not equal.
The weaker party will go into cold war mode to get even.
Guys who just shack up serially with many girls can keep relationships hot, one after another...
Times have changed. 20 years ago they would stick. Now, unless you're close to their age & loaded you're going to be roadkill. Its so bad now that my government (Australia) has recently massively increased visa costs for bringing in 'brides'. You're point about infirmity: unless you're loaded don't expect much care. It may come as a shock but her order of priorities are.
- her & her family.
- her close knit friends.
- food.
- shoes & handbags.
- big house & 4 wd.
- her pets.
- her children welfare (note!
- any Pinoy she will ever meet.
- all other Pinoy in the known universe.
- stray animals.
- pot plants.
- you.
You are there to provide genetic material & money.
Believe it.
AV.
if you feel a hole in your life and think importing an alimony recipient will fix this, think again.
if you really, really, really must go down this route then listen to this advice.
1) just don't.
2) still determined to? spend some money on a good therapist to deal with your own issues to get your head 'straight' before having to deal with another's peculiarities.a 'hole in your life' - that's the correct word. how do you fill it?
therefore 'point 2' is an important issue to deal with, regardless if you wish to fill this 'hole' with 'fulfillment in love' in your home country or with a ltr anywhere abroad.
i went through all of this 'at home' and it costs me 50 % of my 50 years of savings plus the therapy costs. please don't think, it does not affect you. you only will find out afterwards. but then you might be broke: mentally, physically, financially!
thanks to some unknown angel and and a good shrink, who protected me. i was able to recover and save the other 50 % of my savings. so please beware and learn this lessons down to the last point!
I found one of these women on my last trip. She came on a recommendation of a friend of mine. Unfortunately his description of her shape and physique was not too accurate. But she was pretty fit. Very well educated, and with a good job.
Took her OS for a bit more than a week.
I don't know how she did it, but this very sexual woman had only ever experienced single orgasms. Albeit very noisy and threshing ones. So I got her through the barrier to multiple orgasms pretty quickly, and then to continuous orgasms. She was a real howler, flailing round in ecstacy. A couple of days later, I got started into a hard on G-Spot orgasm, outstanding. And then it came. The fountain. She is a squirter. By the time we had calmed down, the bed was a mess. Next day, we tried her G-Spot again, and with the same results. Except that the fountain was bigger, and we had covered the bed with towels in anticipation. She was beside herself, she had never imagined that she was capable of anything like this.
And in between all of this, she is a hard-on throat f**ker. Mouth agape, ramming hard down onto my cock so that it is beating the back of her throat. And thick heavy saliva oozing everywhere. The bed was a mess. When I blew, she was a full on swallower. What an outstanding experience for both of us.
And I think that PP is correct. The intelligent woman could use her imagination to stretch herself beyond her natural boundaries for a superior perfoermance all round.
G
Pinaypounder
05-26-14, 17:38
In my last 3 trips I have had the same. Had a MILF 39, in Manila best BJ EVER salvia swinging hard cock banging tears flowing little puking dick sucking ever, sadly mouth was connected to a body thrashed by baby making and a obscure mind.
This last trip found a 29 year old Bi curious 3 some aching tine little currvy take it up the ass and down the throat lady that is one of the smartest cutest most articulate women I have ever met there. WE even had her first 3 some and fuck was she on board for that AND that my friends is an asset worth having it does not have to happen often but DAMN!.
The 29 year old has already agreed to the rules of straying and writes a good sales pitch, a prenup protects most of the financial downside.
I know the kind of sex we had there is likely not as repeatable here but she is a smart lady and I like smart and as some of here have noted the brain is the largest sex organ.
I have brought the squirt to several woman and I love the look on their faces, when it happens and they begin to embrace their sexuality. Most Phil women can't spell the word sexuality as to their culture and upbring masturbate is a dirty word to about 40% of them.
Had a tiny hard body surprise me last trip by squirting into my mouth. I think 1/10 or 1/12 are natural squirter's I have had 15 or so I think, my last 2 ex were squirters! Most can be taught but the mind is the first part to train.
PP.
FreebieFan
05-27-14, 01:42
Is this app available in Philippines. Its like Tagged / Hi5 on a phone. Simply look at pics and click like for the ones you like. If she clicks like on yours, then its up to you what happens next...Found a few recently in China thanks to it, but haven't seen it in Philippines...
Pinaypounder
05-27-14, 13:42
And we wonder why some pinay simply ask? I was on FC I am kind of addicted to the thing and I often just compliment attractive women to be a nice guy and build karma. So I tell a 60 year old she looks great (she did) and we get chatting.
Turns out some FOOL in Arizona had been supporting her for over 10 years A NOW 60 yer old WOMAN and they never ever even met? And the woman had 4 children.
And we wonder why pinays believe in Unicorns.
That certainly goes into my WTF file!
PP.
Mr Enternational
05-27-14, 18:15
And we wonder why some pinay simply ask? I was on FC I am kind of addicted to the thing and I often just compliment attractive women to be a nice guy and build karma. So I tell a 60 year old she looks great (she did) and we get chatting.
Turns out some FOOL in Arizona had been supporting her for over 10 years A NOW 60 yer old WOMAN and they never ever even met? And the woman had 4 children.
And we wonder why pinays believe in Unicorns.
That certainly goes into my WTF file!
PP.So what's the difference between doing it with her and doing it with a 20 year old without any children? Money given away is money given away no matter who it is given to.
LukeSkywalker
05-27-14, 18:58
The are a lot of fools who feel better to give than to take.
There is an industry in Asia and Africa working the email and SKYPE to exploit weaknesses of people in well-off countries.
And we wonder why some pinay simply ask? I was on FC I am kind of addicted to the thing and I often just compliment attractive women to be a nice guy and build karma. So I tell a 60 year old she looks great (she did) and we get chatting.
Turns out some FOOL in Arizona had been supporting her for over 10 years A NOW 60 yer old WOMAN and they never ever even met? And the woman had 4 children.
And we wonder why pinays believe in Unicorns.
That certainly goes into my WTF file!
PP.
Pinaypounder
05-29-14, 18:09
So what's the difference between doing it with her and doing it with a 20 year old without any children? Money given away is money given away no matter who it is given to.There was NO doing it! I support fees for services! This woman knows how to play the game. He got played! And 60 I guess there are some lonely lonely men out there a sad reflection of WESTERN women.
Mr Enternational
05-29-14, 20:05
There was NO doing it! I support fees for services! This woman knows how to play the game. He got played! And 60 I guess there are some lonely lonely men out there a sad reflection of WESTERN women.Dude what the hell are you talking about? You are coming out of left field. You stressed how old the woman is and how many children she has like that makes a difference whether someone should support her or not. And what game are you saying that she knows how to play? And how is it that he got played? If this guy has the means to send her money for the last 10 years then I'm sure he has the means to take his ass to PI to see the woman if he wants. He is under no duress to do what he does. It is of his own free will and accord.
And what does him sending money to PI have to do with western women? Maybe if he got his game up then he could get a western woman like anybody else if he wanted. You sound like the poor sap that killed all of those people the other day; blaming women because he can't get one. You don't blame the apple if you can't reach it. You go get a fucking ladder.
And we wonder why some pinay simply ask? I was on FC I am kind of addicted to the thing and I often just compliment attractive women to be a nice guy and build karma. So I tell a 60 year old she looks great (she did) and we get chatting.
Turns out some FOOL in Arizona had been supporting her for over 10 years A NOW 60 yer old WOMAN and they never ever even met? And the woman had 4 children.
And we wonder why pinays believe in Unicorns.
That certainly goes into my WTF file!
PP.For all you know I could be the fool or she could be lying. What business is it of anyone's here? It certainly isn't any of my business unless I am banging one of the grand daughters and he is owing my cost.
LukeSkywalker
05-29-14, 23:09
May be he's making monthly installment so he can come over and fuck her rotting, wrinkled body 250 times in his 4 weeks vacation?
I was on Fields Ave. In Angeles City. A fairly young Western guy, about early 30's, was carrying a very old, frail, wrinkled Pinay, like 75 YO, on the back of his old moped. I thought he was taking his Grandma to the mortuary for final arrangement. But no. He parked the moped and took the old woman, hand in hand like lovers, to the restaurant / bar on Field for lunch. Must have spent the whole night having sex with her...hehe.
Some guys have strange tastes in women totally unlike yours and mine, like necrophilia, making passionate love to a dead and rotting body..
There was NO doing it! I support fees for services! This woman knows how to play the game. He got played! And 60 I guess there are some lonely lonely men out there a sad reflection of WESTERN women.
Radical Guy
05-30-14, 05:51
I was on Fields Ave. In Angeles City. A fairly young Western guy, about early 30's, was carrying a very old, frail, wrinkled Pinay, like 75 YO, on the back of his old moped. I thought he was taking his Grandma to the mortuary for final arrangement. But no. He parked the moped and took the old woman, hand in hand like lovers, to the restaurant / bar on Field for lunch. Must have spent the whole night having sex with her...hehe.My heart just swells when I hear such romantic stories of true love. LOL.
I only chat / talk to educated (minimum a degree) women, the others hot or not, bore me quickly. Rather fuck a 5 with a great brain than a 9 with no brain. Good sex is mostly in the brain.I concur.
No one should be more cynical than I based on what I have been through for the past 5 years however there are indeed exceptional Pinay women I am trying to develop one now that I would bring here. The women that interest me are the class of women that make 1 million plus annually in salary in world class companies, you have to dig to find these nuggets that is for sure and I have found them oddly on both DIA and FC.
I'll assume p1m. I didn't find anyone like that on DIA, found two like that on FC, several on okcupid, and a few on craigslist. They don't have to work for world-class companies either; I met a few real-estate agents working for Century and Ayala who earn 4-6 percent commission and regularly sell more than p10m in property each month.
Pinaypounder
05-31-14, 14:50
Craigs list is not a source I have sourced, will try that.
And I am signing up for OK Cupid now, It is fun to rake through the leaves. Are you trying to find a keeper also Hutsoi?
Another contributor here mentioned about them getting sick young and damn your right I need to find one max 35 as I am 50 and her job is to take care of ME.!
Member #4387
06-01-14, 06:30
On my last stay in Makati I did this girl numerous of times and she became after a while rather shary. She wanted to see my online contacts and rightfully she did not trust me when I lied about her beeing just one out of a few contacts I have. I let her look into my tagged as I don't have so many contacts there and she would happily return this favour by letting me view her DIA account. OMG, I knew ofcourse from before that many girls get some messages but this was above my expectations. This bird did have 1137 unread messages.
She opened a few as well (I will ofcourse not reviele any identities as it might be some bros from here, hehe) and it was mostly shitty msgs. One guy obviously was obviously very direct:
"Hello good looking, I am. From USA (my edit), I am looking for a wife and you have promising looks and profile, I want to take care of you and treat you well, hope it is ok I also can do your ass as I am deeply into assfucking".
I laughed my ass off. She told me this is the quality of msgs she recieves mostly. So I got a feeling I am standing out from the crowd as I write only nice msgs, but direct in a hidden way (if that is possible). Some girls I believe don't even have time to open many of the msgs they recieve. I must say I so far have been lucky as I even get girls contacting me.
So if people write msgs like this dude I can easily understand why some think datingsites are a waste of time but I have to say they bring it upon themself. No need to blame the system when the messenger himself actually are the problem.
Pinaypounder
06-02-14, 21:21
Skogis we need to meet I agree fully I never write such things, one has to at a minimum be polite and and I am like you, I once set up an account as a woman just to see, the emails were not that bad, and my profile was a little suggestive.
Now I know why I get responses also.
As they say you get more bees with honey!
PP.
FreebieFan
06-03-14, 02:38
, I once set up an account as a woman just to see, Now that's a sentence that you don't read everyday!
Craigs list is not a source I have sourced, will try that. Key to CL is post your own ad rather than reply to the women's. Most of the ads posted are from working girls and fatties, but there are some gems there. CL attracts a lot of female lurkers... fans who enjoy reading the men's ads. My most recent CL hook up was a 30-year-old woman who desperately desired to be abused, both verbally and physically; she said never experienced it. Through previous hook ups I've grown comfortable calling women with this particular kink "wh0res" and "sluts", binding them, whipping them with a belt, choking them, etc. This one wanted much more violence, particularly tit and clit slapping / biting. I found it odd she feared bondage; she explained she has merinthophobia. She also said said didn't want to be fucked in the ass :( We hooked up and I was a bit hesitant to unleash on her so I started with medium slaps to gauge her tolerance; the harder I slapped her the wetter she became. She used the safe word only once in the two hours we were together. We ended our session with her pleading for me to pound her ass harder than I ever have done before as I pulled her hair, slapped her face her face and tits, and choked her almost to unconsciousness. Five days after that encounter we met again and I was startled, nearly ashamed, to see how bruised she was; she loved admiring these as she looked in a mirror.
And I am signing up for OK Cupid now, It is fun to rake through the leaves. Are you trying to find a keeper also Hutsoi?
Another contributor here mentioned about them getting sick young and damn your right I need to find one max 35 as I am 50 and her job is to take care of ME. !I'm not really looking for a keeper, but the two women I've had the longest relationships in Manila (still currently meeting) are 22 and 24; I didn't choose them for their youth, but with these two I don't sense any urgency to get married. I have an emotional attachment with both because of our shared experiences, rapport, and chemistry - I dare say I even love them. I've had some emotionally rough times with both, most recently with the 22-year-old, but we were able to sort out the problems and I'm very comfortable with both these relationships. I still meet several other women, but I keep them solely for the bed as I don't have the motivation, the time, or the desire to develop a third special girl.
Steve Nash
06-03-14, 15:15
On my last stay in Makati I did this girl numerous of times and she became after a while rather shary. She wanted to see my online contacts and rightfully she did not trust me when I lied about her beeing just one out of a few contacts I have. I let her look into my tagged as I don't have so many contacts there and she would happily return this favour by letting me view her DIA account. OMG, I knew ofcourse from before that many girls get some messages but this was above my expectations. This bird did have 1137 unread messages.
She opened a few as well (I will ofcourse not reviele any identities as it might be some bros from here, hehe) and it was mostly shitty msgs. One guy obviously was obviously very direct:
"Hello good looking, I am. From USA (my edit), I am looking for a wife and you have promising looks and profile, I want to take care of you and treat you well, hope it is ok I also can do your ass as I am deeply into assfucking".
I laughed my ass off. She told me this is the quality of msgs she recieves mostly. So I got a feeling I am standing out from the crowd as I write only nice msgs, but direct in a hidden way (if that is possible). Some girls I believe don't even have time to open many of the msgs they recieve. I must say I so far have been lucky as I even get girls contacting me.
So if people write msgs like this dude I can easily understand why some think datingsites are a waste of time but I have to say they bring it upon themself. No need to blame the system when the messenger himself actually are the problem. My technique in FC is to give one compliment and ask them if they want to chat on my first message, if they are interest it and answer back which I would say 80% of them do (the other 20% won't answer which is their lost, or they haven't read my message yet because they are not online).
Second message is more direct and to the point asking for their Viber or WhatsApp number (because once you have that you have their cell number), if they don't have those applications I ask for their Skype or yahoo messenger.
If I'm close to my arriving date in Manila I will let them know and ask straight forward for their phone number to contact them once I land in Manila, I would say that 75% of them will give it to you. The others would ask to get to know you better before they can give you their phone numbers, if she is a hottie (a 8 or 9) I would make the effort to chat more and get their numbers if they are not that hot (like a 7) I would just forget about them, sometimes the ones that are not hot will give me their number anyways after afew days or so that I don't answer to them.
Sometimes they will be the first one contacting me, but most of them are not in Manila or close to Manila (where is the destination I'm looking for), and some are even hotties from Cebu and Davao, which of course I will never get to see them.
I would say the dating sites is a numbers game the more you contact the more numbers you will get.
This is how I was able to get 60 phone numbers in 2 weeks on my first trip back in April.
Steve Nash
06-03-14, 16:00
In my last 3 trips I have had the same. Had a MILF 39, in Manila best BJ EVER salvia swinging hard cock banging tears flowing little puking dick sucking ever, sadly mouth was connected to a body thrashed by baby making and a obscure mind.
This last trip found a 29 year old Bi curious 3 some aching tine little currvy take it up the ass and down the throat lady that is one of the smartest cutest most articulate women I have ever met there. WE even had her first 3 some and fuck was she on board for that AND that my friends is an asset worth having it does not have to happen often but DAMN!.
The 29 year old has already agreed to the rules of straying and writes a good sales pitch, a prenup protects most of the financial downside.
I know the kind of sex we had there is likely not as repeatable here but she is a smart lady and I like smart and as some of here have noted the brain is the largest sex organ.
I have brought the squirt to several woman and I love the look on their faces, when it happens and they begin to embrace their sexuality. Most Phil women can't spell the word sexuality as to their culture and upbring masturbate is a dirty word to about 40% of them.
Had a tiny hard body surprise me last trip by squirting into my mouth. I think 1/10 or 1/12 are natural squirter's I have had 15 or so I think, my last 2 ex were squirters! Most can be taught but the mind is the first part to train.
PP. I agree 100% you need to train the mind first so she can be able to squirt, I would say is 50% technique and 50% mind you need both to be able to achieve it. The mind because she needs to trust you and be calm and relax, and the technique which is finding her G-Spot and be patient.
In my experience I would say most woman can squirt is all up to the man to have the time and patient. I used to love it alot making a woman squirt (I still do), but I don't do it as much anymore because of the mess it leaves and the time it takes with new girls (with my fiance I can achieve this in a couple of minutes sometimes seconds, but with new girls it takes alot longer), what is more fascinating to me now is full body orgasms, when the girl starts shaking and she can not control it, that combine with multiple G-Spot orgasms is an experience that most women will never forget.
i agree 100% you need to train the mind first so she can be able to squirt, i would say is 50% technique and 50% mind you need both to be able to achieve it. the mind because she needs to trust you and be calm and relax, and the technique which is finding her g-spot and be patient.
in my experience i would say most woman can squirt is all up to the man to have the time and patient. i used to love it alot making a woman squirt (i still do), but i don't do it as much anymore because of the mess it leaves and the time it takes with new girls (with my fiance i can achieve this in a couple of minutes sometimes seconds, but with new girls it takes alot longer), what is more fascinating to me now is full body orgasms, when the girl starts shaking and she can not control it, that combine with multiple g-spot orgasms is an experience that most women will never forget.always, always keep your fingernails very short and filed smooth - i trim mine every two days. if you have any hangnails make sure to cut those those too. make sure she [CodeWord133] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133) first before starting. why? a girl who hasn't experienced a squirt will be absolutely convinced she's going to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and will want to dash from the bed to the toilet as her squirt approaches. when you begin massaging her g-spot tell her that she'll eventually feel the urge to [CodeWord111] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111) but you're certain that this isn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and she shouldn't resist the release. once she squirts let her smell it so she's convinced.
Steve Nash
06-05-14, 13:56
always, always keep your fingernails very short and filed smooth - i trim mine every two days. if you have any hangnails make sure to cut those those too. make sure she [CodeWord133] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133) first before starting. why? a girl who hasn't experienced a squirt will be absolutely convinced she's going to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and will want to dash from the bed to the toilet as her squirt approaches. when you begin massaging her g-spot tell her that she'll eventually feel the urge to [CodeWord111] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111) but you're certain that this isn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and she shouldn't resist the release. once she squirts let her smell it so she's convinced.another thing to note is that she needs to drink alot of liquid before doing this, i had problems before making a woman squirt when she was dehydrated (how do i know she was dehydrated? because her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) was very yellow and when i ask her how much water she drink that day she will say not much), so i give her lots of water and minutes later she will start squirting all over.
hutsori the fingernail is a good advice!
but for guys who happen to have long nails they can still be able to achieve this without using their fingers, but it involves alot and alot of foreplay to get her ready to squirt, and then use your tongue to find her g-spot (is hard to do this but possible depending of the woman), or use your tongue to make her squirt from clitoris stimulation. or you can always use a dildo or vibrator which is the easy way out.
remember i'm talking about first timers squirters, for natural squirters (the ones who squirt before or know how to squirt) you don't even need to use your fingers, just find her g-spot with your cock during penetration and she will start squirting sooner or later.
one thing to know is once they start squirting, they will squirt very easily after that, sometimes i just touch their nipples and they will squirt, or without even touching them i will just blow their clitoris and they will squirt also.
practice makes perfect like most things in life.
in phils where is very hot and humid (specially during summertime) the water drinking part is very important!
Steve and Huts, your exchange is interesting, but I detect it is coming to it's natural conclusion. So let me politely remind everyone that this is the Chat / Pen pal / Online dating thread.
A new "friend" amused me with this post, "simple person. Don't judge the person but only god can judge the person. Volleyball".
I also had an online Manila hottie suggest that I had forgotten her. I'm pretty sure I never met her, but maybe I look like some middle aged, bald guy who has charmed her in the past. It'll be interesting to see how this one turn out. X.
Fellow Mongers: I had to cut my trip short because my dog had become hospitalized three days after my arrival in the PI so I flew back to USA and she is now recovering at home. Still, it was a GREAT three days starting at 5:30 AM last Tuesday at LA Cafe. Where else in THE WORLD can one go into a bar at 5:30 AM on a Tuesday morning and pick up a busty 34 C, good-looking, lactating Pinay lass and be jacked off to her squirting sou-sous and hungry mouth? What a magnificient view and delectable treat! I must have feasted on at least of pint of that warm, sweet mother's milkshake! What a Welcome to the PI! This was followed a few hours later by an Amazonian 40 C deep throat gagging blow job queen and a few hours after that back at LA Cafe with a 34 B short time yum yum girl who would not allow me to photograph no matter the incentive. The next day a DIA reported MIA so Plan be back at the La Cafe for another 36 C cutie who, too, was photo-conscious but quite enjoyable otherwise. WTF? The next day yielded a repeater I had picked up before at LA Cafe last November who spent the night with me and fucked my brains out with her semi chubby but oh so nice 34 C pillows hanging down that liked to be filmed. RK, Wicked Roger and Chris Long, I will have to hook up with you guys some other time. Perhaps November if you are around when I head back to Manila for a conference and probably Cebu and AC afterwards.
LukeSkywalker
06-09-14, 02:38
I was looking for the DIA profile of a girl I sat next to on the bus to Dau and came across this:
Xylah, 25, Pampanga. Wants to meet a Male between 23 and 36 years old for Friendship or Networking.
Man, this girl is pretty. She's a nurse. Is she real?
Why the ones with interest in me are all old and ugly? Some pinays are 65 years old, and still looking.
Looks like there are better-looking girls in Pampanga than Manila.
Mr Enternational
06-09-14, 02:52
I was looking the DIA profile of a girl I sat next to on the bus to Dau and came across this:
Xylah, 25, Pampanga. Wants to meet a Male between 23 and 36 years old for Friendship or Networking.
Man, this girl is pretty. She's a nurse. Is she real?
Why the ones with interest in me are all old and ugly? Some pinays are 65 years old, and still looking.
Looks like there are better-looking girls in Pampanga than Manila.Don't you mean "there are better-looking GUYS in Pampanga?
LukeSkywalker
06-09-14, 03:18
Xylah claims ro be a girl. She's s very sweet-looking girl.
That pic cannot be a guy.
Don't you mean "there are better-looking GUYS in Pampanga?
LukeSkywalker
06-09-14, 05:01
I was looking in DIA to set up dates for my last trip to Asia. The girls in Manila just did not look very good. A few attractive ones turned out to be transexuals. I just gave up, never looked in other provinces.
I am looking in Pampanga for a girl I met on the bus. While Manila girls are old, tired and just bad-looking, there are many young, fresh and good-looking girls in Pampanga. Pampanga looks very promising. Would be great to meet those fresh, young girls, providing they are in good shape, not overweight, out of shape and lumpy like the DIA girl I met in China. That girl posted an old pic of a halfway pretty face, but she was so lumpy and had bad manners, I just ditched her fast.
But look at the pic posted by Caelocute in Pampanga, who claims to be a girl. There's no way this is a genuine girl. She even has a little goatee on her chin. Probably a transsexual. LOL.
Carlocute, 32.
Wants to meet a Male between 18 and 80 years old for Dating, Friendship, Serious Relationship or Networking.
Gender: Female.
State / Region: Pampanga City: Pampanga.
I was looking for the DIA profile of a girl I sat next to on the bus to Dau and came across this:
Xylah, 25, Pampanga. Wants to meet a Male between 23 and 36 years old for Friendship or Networking.
Man, this girl is pretty. She's a nurse. Is she real?
Why the ones with interest in me are all old and ugly? Some pinays are 65 years old, and still looking.
Looks like there are better-looking girls in Pampanga than Manila.Man you just can't generalise much about this place. It really is Forrest Gumps box of chocolates here & will never fail to amaze & confound you. Go where the best ones are at the time.
AV.
I found this profile message and the responses a bit amusing.
PinayLove liekaoo.
Member #4387
06-21-14, 11:38
On my last trip I was just texting this girl upon our meeting to confirm her arrival. She was on my fleet of unmet datingsitecontacts so I tried to whipe her off the list by meeting her. Obviously this girl had a lot of things going on on her behalf.
In my earlier texts the same day when we were suppose to meet I made a strong point out of that this was only going to be a short meeting (as I invented some bs plans as to pretend I was busy). We flirted a bit and I told her mildly how I was going to bang her and she played along. In between I also added this was only going to be a short meeting. Then I recieved this text:
"Good afternoon. I just want to askif when are you leaving Manila? And if how many days you want me to stay with you? So I will know if I will bring clothes or not".
I laughed my ass off as obviously 2 things happened here. 1. She was also in contact with another punter (most likely) or 2. Just plain stupid and did not understand my, in very simplefied english, pointmaking of her just stay short time. Maby to her short time was 2/3 days I don't know.
Well she came anyway with bags packed as for her to stay many days, hehe.
It is more fun in the philippines:-)
Those of you with a PL account may want to check out fatimavee.
"I'm for walk, candy, escort, even make movie, PM me (redacted)".
Walk and candy are code words used by Filipino guys on Filipino escort sites. I cannot provide a FR for her.
Member #4351
06-21-14, 14:38
Walk and candy are code words used by Filipino guys on Filipino escort sites. I cannot provide a FR for her.So what do they mean?
So what do they mean?All roughly the same thing. Walk is a meeting for paid sex and candy means payment / paid sex. For reasons unknown to me the Filipino-oriented boards use these codewords. You'll see messages such as this: "'I'm very much interested to walk a celebrity or a model psp".
see http://pinaywalks(dot)com/ and http://www.femalenetwork(dot)com/girltalk/index.php?topic=277114.0
On my last trip I was just texting this girl upon our meeting to confirm her arrival. She was on my fleet of unmet datingsitecontacts so I tried to whipe her off the list by meeting her. Obviously this girl had a lot of things going on on her behalf.
In my earlier texts the same day when we were suppose to meet I made a strong point out of that this was only going to be a short meeting (as I invented some bs plans as to pretend I was busy). We flirted a bit and I told her mildly how I was going to bang her and she played along. In between I also added this was only going to be a short meeting. Then I recieved this text:
"Good afternoon. I just want to askif when are you leaving Manila? And if how many days you want me to stay with you? So I will know if I will bring clothes or not".
I laughed my ass off as obviously 2 things happened here. 1. She was also in contact with another punter (most likely) or 2. Just plain stupid and did not understand my, in very simplefied english, pointmaking of her just stay short time. Maby to her short time was 2/3 days I don't know.
Well she came anyway with bags packed as for her to stay many days, hehe.
It is more fun in the philippines:-)They act shy / innocent but they are playing the field just as hard as you are. Been there, got the t shirt.
AV.
Capt Munch
06-24-14, 08:46
Gifted. . . .
I fired my maid recently for "dereliction of duty" as she found it necessary to be drinking in Manila when she was supposed to be back at work.
She had already had her day off for the week and was due back to work. Her reply to my text was to "do deduct", rather than explain why she had planned to be late. And it was planned!
She had been late the week before and also the previous month had decided to show up a day and half late when I returned for my overseas trip. Again, no explanation was given.
She is a good worker and very conscientious about everything else.
So. . . What went wrong?
She has been playing the dating game on Date in Asia. She has had a number of foreigner boyfriends over the last year and a half. One (or more) of whom must have won her heart and one of whom has taken her cherry.
As per the Filipina soap opera "Filipina World" (joke!) from which all these girls get their relationship ideas, it must be "True Love Forever. " . . . . and maybe it is, who knows.
I did try to explain her that whether it was a Filipino boy or a foreigner to take her cherry, that most likely what she will hear will be "Love YOU Long Time" but what the boy / man will be saying is "Love You One Time. ".
Now. . . .
Out of work for less than a week. One of my maid's chat mates off of DIA sends her 8000 + php since the POOR girl lost her job. Now how much of her 80,000 php salary that she had earned while she worked, had she saved? She did NOT have living expenses, food expenses, electric expenses, internet expenses, water expenses. . . .
She lost her job because. . . Most likely.
1. She was partying with one of her dates in Manila.
2. Who. . . May or MAY NOT be the one that just gifted her the 8000 php.
And. . . . Maybe her sponsor is still paying for her cherry (BUT. . . Why would a Filipina work when she is on the Gravy Train. ? ? ? ?
Keep sending the money, gents, lots of Filipinas would rather win the Western Union Lottery than work.
On the plus side, I have a new maid that started the day after. She may not have heard about Date in Asia OR the Gravy Train.
Munch.
Member #4387
06-24-14, 08:57
Gifted. . . .
I fired my maid recently for "dereliction of duty" as she found it necessary to be drinking in Manila when she was supposed to be back at work.
Munch.I fucked a maid on my last Makati stay. She admitted she would be late back tending her american employers apt? Not yours maby? But again I did not and never will send any money through WU. I compensate on site that is it. She didn't claim I took her cherry either. I post reports later in photogallery and in Manila thread. Stay tuned you never know where they show up.
Pinaypounder
06-24-14, 16:23
Typical story.
I was employing a nice young lady who was a Tagged girl, we started as sex cam partners then she earned her job and it was real. She was a decent worker, my expectations were low for the salary of 20 k cash per month. She did her job well enough.
Along came a nice American Boy who has 3 or 4 kids, he has a good job and lives up North and now she is getting one tattoo covered and another one added to her lithe little body. I fear for her life there as he seems to be a bit of a retard but I hope for the best as she was a nice lady.
She of course quickly advised me he would no longer allow her to meet with me, her boss, so she was quickly terminated. We had stopped sleeping together a couple of months after her new relationship started. READ THAT AFTER part. If he is a member here then again what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
The common (middle and low class) women are a lazy bunch who will easily forgo a decent income for the easy life. I mean what the hell do you do all day? Aah might as well fish for another one (BF #2 , 3, 4) now that BF#1 is paying for new Ipad, Internet and there is no need to work any more.
Sad and just another reason why it will always be a top mongering destination.
Know that when you send money you are simply getting a little of their focus and you are educating them as to how to EARN MORE easy money. So soon there will be 3 or 4 of you sending that "poor girl" money.
They are lazy, but not so stupid, of course its no better than the Bear who begs at the side of the road. The more bones thrown at it, the more it begs! I wish someone would pay me to masturbate, I would be thin and rich!
If you want to help poor people send $300 dollars a month to the Salvation Army or send $ 250 and spend $ 50 on a webcam girl, after all allot of these guys never even make it to the Phils.
Oh well I sure you feel better sending the bear some money after all it did not survive before you came along!
These are my thoughts not yours!
PP.
We are the problem. She was grossly overpaid and it improved "her game".
Don't get concerned, she chose her path. When she hits 25 or older, she will have "hooked".
A foreigner or "her game" will start that slow decline.
Just be smarter, always have a back-up girl and always know it's a game. Learn how to play it well.
Cheapy
Typical story.
I was employing a nice young lady who was a Tagged girl, we started as sex cam partners then she earned her job and it was real. She was a decent worker, my expectations were low for the salary of 20 k cash per month. She did her job well enough.
Along came a nice American Boy who has 3 or 4 kids, he has a good job and lives up North and now she is getting one tattoo covered and another one added to her lithe little body. I fear for her life there as he seems to be a bit of a retard but I hope for the best as she was a nice lady.
She of course quickly advised me he would no longer allow her to meet with me, her boss, so she was quickly terminated. We had stopped sleeping together a couple of months after her new relationship started. READ THAT AFTER part...
Hey guys,
I just joined FC and didn't realize it was a pay site. My question is when I pay the year subscription, will FC continue to charge every without notice?
Gifted. . . .
I fired my maid recently for "dereliction of duty" as she found it necessary to be drinking in Manila when she was supposed to be back at work.
She had already had her day off for the week and was due back to work. Her reply to my text was to "do deduct", rather than explain why she had planned to be late. And it was planned!
She had been late the week before and also the previous month had decided to show up a day and half late when I returned for my overseas trip. Again, no explanation was given.
She is a good worker and very conscientious about everything else.
So. . . What went wrong?
She has been playing the dating game on Date in Asia. She has had a number of foreigner boyfriends over the last year and a half. One (or more) of whom must have won her heart and one of whom has taken her cherry.
As per the Filipina soap opera "Filipina World" (joke!) from which all these girls get their relationship ideas, it must be "True Love Forever. " . . . . and maybe it is, who knows.
I did try to explain her that whether it was a Filipino boy or a foreigner to take her cherry, that most likely what she will hear will be "Love YOU Long Time" but what the boy / man will be saying is "Love You One Time. ".
Now. . . .
Out of work for less than a week. One of my maid's chat mates off of DIA sends her 8000 + php since the POOR girl lost her job. Now how much of her 80,000 php salary that she had earned while she worked, had she saved? She did NOT have living expenses, food expenses, electric expenses, internet expenses, water expenses. . . .
She lost her job because. . . Most likely.
1. She was partying with one of her dates in Manila.
2. Who. . . May or MAY NOT be the one that just gifted her the 8000 php.
And. . . . Maybe her sponsor is still paying for her cherry (BUT. . . Why would a Filipina work when she is on the Gravy Train. ? ? ? ?
Keep sending the money, gents, lots of Filipinas would rather win the Western Union Lottery than work.
On the plus side, I have a new maid that started the day after. She may not have heard about Date in Asia OR the Gravy Train.
Munch.A good maid is like a good secretary, worth her weight in gold. Choose older married employees who have some exposure to the western business world. That said, Filipinos do have a lot of complicated family stuff going on at any time.
Hope the new one wasn't chosen on looks.
AV.
FreebieFan
06-25-14, 03:26
A good maid is like a good secretary, worth her weight in gold. Choose older married employees who have some exposure to the western business world. That said, Filipinos do have a lot of complicated family stuff going on at any time.
Hope the new one wasn't chosen on looks.
AV.The best advice I was ever given, was to choose a secretary based on efficiency and confidentiality and loyalty.
I've chosen old maids as my secretary all my life and its proved to be the best direction. I once of course deviated from that plan and chose a girl with big boobs but that worked out ok too.
Exactly the same with maids. Choose one who will be loyal to you and will follow all your instructions.
Choose one who wants to work not who wants to laze around.
Choose one who can work with minimal instruction.
And never choose a pretty one because for sure she will be chased if she has a phone and pc.
Oh and also check that whoever you choose doesn't like girls because she will be equally chased (but not necessarily chaste!
Choosing a religious one might be a good call as long as she keeps her religious fervour to herself.
Exactly the same with maids. Choose one who will be loyal to you and will follow all your instructions.
Choose one who wants to work not who wants to laze around.
Choose one who can work with minimal instruction.And choose one who won't pilfer your food and household supplies. I had an Indian lady who started a catering business using the food I bought each week. "Really? I ate 5 kilos of rice this week again?" "Yes, sir. So much rice you eat."
Choosing a religious one might be a good call as long as she keeps her religious fervour to herself.Had a Sri Lanka Christian who proselytised incessantly about Jesus and would even tape religious cards to the the walls of my place. Buh-bye.
The only decent help I had was a male Bangladeshi haris who the landlord hired to take care of my villa.
After all the hassles I had with live-in help in the Middle East I decided not to hire one here. I figured that Filipina would be telling all the other Filipina visitors stories they don't need to hear.
Can I recommend that you guys create your own "I have a maid" thread. I think there is already a "living in Phil" thread.
Is anyone using the online site called Tagged? Tagged is good at showing all kinds of sexy, bikini clad gals, but not much payoff in the end. And I still haven't figured out their "pets" angle.
Is anyone using the online site called Tagged? Tagged is good at showing all kinds of sexy, bikini clad gals, but not much payoff in the end. And I still haven't figured out their "pets" angle.I've been using it for about 2 years now. It's far from my favourite site yet it's free and there are a lot women. You can ignore the pets thing. Instead play Meet Me regularly.
Is anyone using the online site called Tagged? Tagged is good at showing all kinds of sexy, bikini clad gals, but not much payoff in the end. And I still haven't figured out their "pets" angle.Back in the day, say 8 years ago, Friendster, Tagged & Hi5 were massive resources of Pinay's to flirt with. Then Facebook sucked them away & sites like Friendster & Tagged resorted to spam & stupid game things to try to remain in business. Post Facebook the I'm apps like Vibe, Wechat, Vine etc have drawn them away. The old dating site standby's like DIA still provide fodder but jeez there's legions of walruses, Lola's and not a few post op grannies. Picked some lovely women from there in the past two weeks but you really need to be on your game to avoid time wasting.
Cheers.
AV.
Pip Jaeger
06-26-14, 15:00
Picked some lovely women from there in the past two weeks but you really need to be on your game to avoid time wasting.
Quite true, but it all comes down to how well you pre-screen them. Using sites / apps like DIA or WeChat you need to ask more questions or get them onto a site like YM so you can verify via C2C. One of the reasons I like sites like FC, FB and Tagged is that many of the ladies post multiple pictures and you can usually tell if they are real; henceforth a time saver. I'm more inclined to contact a girl, especially on Tagged, if she's posted several pics, but of course there's no way to tell if they are recent. You can also garner quite a bit of info about them too (as has been already discussed).
Disclaimer for "English Five O": Sorry for any spelling / grammar mistakes, English is not my native language.
Quite true, but it all comes down to how well you pre-screen them. Using sites / apps like DIA or WeChat you need to ask more questions or get them onto a site like YM so you can verify via C2C. One of the reasons I like sites like FC, FB and Tagged is that many of the ladies post multiple pictures and you can usually tell if they are real; henceforth a time saver. I'm more inclined to contact a girl, especially on Tagged, if she's posted several pics, but of course there's no way to tell if they are recent. You can also garner quite a bit of info about them too (as has been already discussed).
Disclaimer for "English Five O": Sorry for any spelling / grammar mistakes, English is not my native language.I have found Viber gives the fakes away real quick. They post a attractive (old) pic on DIA for example, you get their CP # & add them to Viber. Surprise surprise there is an unattractive older person on her Viber contact. I'm so glad I don't need to go through all this actually.
AV.
Can I recommend that you guys create your own "I have a maid" thread. I think there is already a "living in Phil" thread.
Is anyone using the online site called Tagged? Tagged is good at showing all kinds of sexy, bikini clad gals, but not much payoff in the end. And I still haven't figured out their "pets" angle.For me personal, Tagged evolved to a very good option to PL, TF or DIA. Met already some girls from there on my last trip and I'm pretty sure that I wll meet new girls from there on my next trip. My experiences shows me that a combination of PL and Tagged I. E. Is already enough to meet decent girls when I'm there.
About this "Pets shit". Tried once to figure out how its working but found out isn't any need to do that. Don't waste your time with the "Pets". I got already millions of points and have no clue how. Hahaha. Just chat the girls.
Enjoy and see you at Cebu maybe.
For me personal, Tagged evolved to a very good option to PL, TF or DIA.
TF? Trulyfilipina? If I'm wrong full name if you would. Thanks.
TF? Trulyfilipina? If I'm wrong full name if you would. Thanks.ThaiFriendly.
FreebieFan
06-30-14, 02:23
Back in the day, say 8 years ago, Friendster, Tagged & Hi5 were massive resources of Pinay's to flirt with.
Cheers.
AV.I miss Friendster. That and MySpace were my entree to the world of internet dating a. K. a internet shagging. Good times and much less mongers chasing the same girls then.
ThaiFriendly.ThaiFriendly also run Pinalove. They both come out of the same "home stable".
FreebieFan
07-01-14, 04:51
"You will need a heart that knows God. And erectile disfunction are welcome as long as you can hug and kiss man with big tummy is a plusif not I can make it bigbut not required, nice to hug ".
Don't see that kind of an intro too often.
Roll Aides
07-01-14, 23:46
"You will need a heart that knows God. And erectile disfunction are welcome as long as you can hug and kiss man with big tummy is a plusif not I can make it bigbut not required, nice to hug ".
Don't see that kind of an intro too often.Someone out there has found their perfect mate.
"You will need a heart that knows God. And erectile disfunction are welcome as long as you can hug and kiss man with big tummy is a plusif not I can make it bigbut not required, nice to hug ".
Don't see that kind of an intro too often.This reminds me of the time I had a night out in Tagbilaran (of all places, LOL) with 3 girls that I met in a restaurant. They were 'good girls' who tried to make a living by selling home made jewellery which was not easy to say the least so as usual they were looking for a Western man.
At a given moment I asked them what kind of man they were looking for. They said ANY man. The strong emphasis on ANY was really remarkable. In fact what they were saying was: get me the hell out of here please!
Not much to do in Tagbilaran by the way (actually almost nothing) but I have really good memories of this total and utter 19 yo old sweetheart that I pulled out of a Karaoke bar / brothel. Aah, those were the days back in 2007.
Roll Aides
07-02-14, 17:02
At a given moment I asked them what kind of man they were looking for. They said ANY man. The strong emphasis on ANY was really remarkable. In fact what they were saying was: get me the hell out of here please!The motto and courting call of many a third-world girl seeking a foreign man. You can hardly blame 'them. When you're at the bottom, anywhere is up.
Mr Enternational
07-04-14, 15:38
DIA girl who I have been dealing with for 3 years swears I am the only one. I finally pull some truth out of her. A guy she has never met sending her money. But what do I care, she has never gotten any from me yet continues to come back.
Her: It's been a long time since we met on Dia.
Me: yes. And you meet many more people there.
Her: you do that's why you think I do that.
Me: no I do not. I do not even go on there. That is you.
Her: I've been waiting for you, to take me seriously. But you never did. Even a little bit concerned.
Me: we are not talking about that. We talking about the men you meet.
Her: I not have permanent chatmate. All are new then gone.
Me: sorry. I can not believe that.
Her: Mmmmmm I know.
Me: so why you can not tell the truth?
Her: What more can I say?? You not trust me.
Me: because you lie.
Her: Ok fine! You want true?? I met the guy from London he support me for few months. But since he got sick and had an operation, support has stop but believe it or not, we never meet. He supposed to come here to visit me last April but he got sick so no more communication anymore. He help me the time I got admitted in the hospital for a week. He support my kids, but now no more. Are you happy now??
Me: I am always happy.
Her: oh yes, I forgot.
Her: Everytime we meet I want to feel love from you, even a little bit. You never love me.
Her: The last time I need some help from you. You never help me. If you remember everytime we meet I'm always crying.
Me: yes. Why you cry?
Her: Bcoz I love you, I feel hurt wen I feel you not feel the same.
Roll Aides
07-04-14, 17:09
Well at least DiA Filipinas. Yes your girl is different. Now to the facts:
I had to laugh because this conversation is 100% typical of any DiA girl, and really most Filipinas. Even if they will tell you the truth in other areas (YMMV,) sex is apparently considered to be 100% fair game for any type of deception. This includes all past, present and future acts on which you may question her. It's part of the culture, and there are NO moral qualms about it, except post-you-caught-me professions of regret, which does not in fact exist and will be forgotten by the next time the subject arises. Which it will.
In fact, they will be sort of angry if you imply such obvious falsehoods are unacceptable. If you challenge their clumsy lies intensely enough, you will eventually be rewarded with an offended explosion of (partial) truth. Be warned that any revelations made during such explosion will be vigoursly denied should you ever mention it again.
Of course they have a lot of other guys in the loop, provided there is an opportunity for it (there is.) There are no exceptions.
If you happen to have a personal inclination to play by the rules and keep your word, just realize that that concept is so alien here as to have no real meaning. Opportunity equals justification, and the assumption is that you recognize that and are willing to accept the "I love you and only you" bullshit as a matter of appearance. There is no expectation that you believe it, it's just for form. The expectation is that you pretend to believe it, and keep up your own facade which they will also mostly pretend to believe, whilst attempting to uncover you assumed deception with awkwardly transparent cross-examination, which leads to the situation that even if you are telling the truth it is assumed you are lying because that's what they (and everyone they have ever known or heard of) would do.
Personally I find lying tiring, but after you've experienced enough of it, you sort of just accept that fuck it, that's what everyone in this country expects anyway. Words mean nothing. It can be sort of freeing, behaviorally, but a bit depressing from a moral standpoint.
DIA girl who I have been dealing with for 3 years swears I am the only one. I finally pull some truth out of her. A guy she has never met sending her money. But what do I care, she has never gotten any from me yet continues to come back.
Her: It's been a long time since we met on Dia.
Me: yes. And you meet many more people there.
Her: you do that's why you think I do that.
Me: no I do not. I do not even go on there. That is you.
Her: I've been waiting for you, to take me seriously. But you never did. Even a little bit concerned.
Me: we are not talking about that. We talking about the men you meet.
Her: I not have permanent chatmate. All are new then gone.
Me: sorry. I can not believe that..
DIA girl who I have been dealing with for 3 years swears I am the only one. I finally pull some truth out of her. A guy she has never met sending her money. But what do I care, she has never gotten any from me yet continues to come back.
Her: It's been a long time since we met on Dia.
Me: yes. And you meet many more people there.
Her: you do that's why you think I do that.
Me: no I do not. I do not even go on there. That is you.
Her: I've been waiting for you, to take me seriously. But you never did. Even a little bit concerned.
Me: we are not talking about that. We talking about the men you meet.
Her: I not have permanent chatmate. All are new then gone.
Me: sorry. I can not believe that.
Her: Mmmmmm I know.
Me: so why you can not tell the truth?
Her: What more can I say?? You not trust me.
Me: because you lie.
Her: Ok fine! You want true?? I met the guy from London he support me for few months. But since he got sick and had an operation, support has stop but believe it or not, we never meet. He supposed to come here to visit me last April but he got sick so no more communication anymore. He help me the time I got admitted in the hospital for a week. He support my kids, but now no more. Are you happy now??
Me: I am always happy.
Her: oh yes, I forgot.
Her: Everytime we meet I want to feel love from you, even a little bit. You never love me.
Her: The last time I need some help from you. You never help me. If you remember everytime we meet I'm always crying.
Me: yes. Why you cry?
Her: Bcoz I love you, I feel hurt wen I feel you not feel the same.This is not something to be proud of IMHO.
AV.
Member #4387
07-05-14, 00:45
Personally I find lying tiring, but after you've experienced enough of it, you sort of just accept that fuck it, that's what everyone in this country expects anyway. Words mean nothing. It can be sort of freeing, behaviorally, but a bit depressing from a moral standpoint.Fuck I have one pinay (datingsitegirl) on my repeat list. Your post here, I brush into stealth mode (no ISG signs) and pass on to her. Not that I care as long as she fucks my brains out (and she does everytime) but I have caught her out in many lies for a year or so. Normaly girls are good at remember what you did tell them (atleast my GF is so I allways gets into trouble with her as I hardly remember what I did yesterday) but I think pinays lies so much so they can't keep track.
The girl at stake here have claimed she quit datingsites as in respect to me, hehe (I did not ask her to), but I could follow her signing up in new ones almost at once after old ones were disconncted / deleted (she changed pics on some as it was a tad hard to recognice).
Many pinays have an auntie they travel extensively with. The real truth is they travel with a punter.
The most funny part was on my last Makati stay when this girl showed up for a steamy session. She arrived in a coctaillookalikedress in late afternoon, with one of them small fake design purses. She claimed she did start as a real estate agent so she was about, after our session, to go show a guy one apartment (partial truth). I have been boinking enough girls dealing with real estates and know this is not the designated outfit as they use a more business outfit. I am sure it was a guy involved and probably an apartment too. But I guess it was no real estate biz going on, hehe.
Even if they are busted they only create new lies and spin themself into a net of lies they can not get out of. As you say it is sad realy bcs I am not about to relationship these girls, only fuck them (and ofcourse sometimes having nice time). I have brushed myself up on candycrush and nailpolish so I can keep a convo going for atleast 15 min. That is a convo you can have without them lying to much.
Check out lizzylicious on pinalove.
She sure thinks she is God's gift to us all, despite her pics being very ordinary (well, she has 2 assets but that's all).
Chocha Monger
07-05-14, 17:27
The relationship between monger and Filipina is based on an intricate web of lies. It is much like agents from rival spy organizations trying to play each other to get what they want. Both sides know that 95% of what they're telling each other is a lie but they pretend anyway because it's part of the game. The problem arises when the monger gets carried away in the fantasy, falls in love and starts trying to bring Western expectations into the game. He starts trying to save the girl from her circumstances expecting truth, loyalty, and gratitude in return. The monger fails to realize that he can never overcome his status as a foreigner in the Filipina mind. He can't reconcile her frequent enthusiastic declarations of "I lab you!" with her lies and infidelities. The Western man gives the Filipina a house, car, money and marriage and thinks, "She should appreciate me. I gave her everything. " Meanwhile she is thinking he did absolutely nothing for her. As far as she is concerned she earned everything by playing the game. The monger doesn't realize the game did not stop when he fell in love and started playing Superman.
Every monger thinking about putting on his cape and saving a girl should look at Lady Bar. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrlyn8_lady-bar-2-2-with-english-subtitles_travel.
Member #4387
07-10-14, 08:39
I am mostly directing my mongering eating from my fleet of allready established datingsitecontacts. As of a few months back I started to experiment adding some of these girls into a fake Fb account as in easy to have some sort of contact in case of repeat sessions etc. Lets say I started off with 20 contacts. Through only these contacts it has now grown to approx 300 girls in a very short time. I even got a few early lays popping up from nowhere. No, i dont say all 300+ of them are to be fucked.
It seems many of my prior datingsitegirls know eachother almost as in a network, probably only as "friends" in FB but even so(one reason can be that some of these girls have several thousand contacts). From only one girl I added in as friend I got 7 mutual friends.
In many cases I have lost track from which datingsite the girls origin from as they have different names in datingsite vs facebook. They also often run different set of pics. Oh hallelua. My spiral note pad is not very helpful right now. I need some hightec monitoringdevice keeping me on track.
I tried to post one normal post in my account showing a pic from my parents 8 weeks old Chevalier King Charles Spaniel. Girls attacked the post with likes. So far so good. It is a very cute puppy by the way so understandable. Hell started when one of my previous fuckobjects manages to write "I miss you dear" as a comment. More halleluas to come.
I was beat up in writings, msgs, e-mails (a few of them have that as well). Msgs like "do you have other girl?", "who is she", "now i know what kind of guy you are", "asshole" etc etc. What a commotion.
So for now FB have worked far to well as girls pops out from all over and request friendship. As a weakhearted guy and a guy spotting a possible new pussy it is hard to ignore these requests. But I think I am running on the edge here as it gets rather stressful keeping track. I need a break.
The relationship between monger and Filipina is based on an intricate web of lies. It is much like agents from rival spy organizations trying to play each other to get what they want. Both sides know that 95% of what they're telling each other is a lie but they pretend anyway because it's part of the game. The problem arises when the monger gets carried away in the fantasy, falls in love and starts trying to bring Western expectations into the game. He starts trying to save the girl from her circumstances expecting truth, loyalty, and gratitude in return. The monger fails to realize that he can never overcome his status as a foreigner in the Filipina mind. He can't reconcile her frequent enthusiastic declarations of "I lab you!" with her lies and infidelities. The Western man gives the Filipina a house, car, money and marriage and thinks, "She should appreciate me. I gave her everything. " Meanwhile she is thinking he did absolutely nothing for her. As far as she is concerned she earned everything by playing the game. The monger doesn't realize the game did not stop when he fell in love and started playing Superman.
Every monger thinking about putting on his cape and saving a girl should look at Lady Bar. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrlyn8_lady-bar-2-2-with-english-subtitles_travel.Sounds to me like the scammer got out scammed. He had it coming. What's the big deal?
No, i dont say all 300+ of them are to be fucked.WAT?!? You can't extend your Manila visit from 4 to 5 days?
I was beat up in writings, msgs, e-mails (a few of them have that as well). Msgs like "do you have other girl?", "who is she", "now i know what kind of guy you are", "asshole" etc etc. What a commotion. I am not a wastebook user, but having poked around on girls' pages several times to help them I recall the default friend is transitive. I believe you can change this from friends and their friends to only friends. Tinkering with the security settings you may be able to further restrict what each girl sees. However, the nature of wastebook is far from discreet; the admin wants everyone to be involved in everyone else's lives so let's broadcast it to the world. You can set permissions for the wall's contents to be seen only by your friends, friends of your friends, by everyone or by selecting and recommending it to some people. Appears the most restrictive setting is "friends", which may still be too permissive. I don't know whether you can set permissions to individuals, e.g. allow her to see only what you and she have written and not what other friends have. Good luck.
Roll Aides
07-11-14, 00:39
Sounds to me like the scammer got out scammed. He had it coming. What's the big deal?
The relationship between monger and Filipina is based on an intricate web of lies. It is much like agents from rival spy organizations trying to play each other to get what they want. Both sides know that 95% of what they're telling each other is a lie but they pretend anyway because it's part of the game. The problem arises when the monger gets carried away in the fantasy, falls in love and starts trying to bring Western expectations into the game. He starts trying to save the girl from her circumstances expecting truth, loyalty, and gratitude in return. The monger fails to realize that he can never overcome his status as a foreigner in the Filipina mind. He can't reconcile her frequent enthusiastic declarations of "I lab you!" with her lies and infidelities. The Western man gives the Filipina a house, car, money and marriage and thinks, "She should appreciate me. I gave her everything. " Meanwhile she is thinking he did absolutely nothing for her. As far as she is concerned she earned everything by playing the game. The monger doesn't realize the game did not stop when he fell in love and started playing Superman.
Every monger thinking about putting on his cape and saving a girl should look at Lady Bar. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrlyn8_lady-bar-2-2-with-english-subtitles_travel.Perhaps you are referring to the Lady Bar film, which I have not watched. If so, then never mind. However, if not, can you please explain how the monger is a scammer in this situation?
Cheers
Perhaps you are referring to the Lady Bar film, which I have not watched. If so, then never mind. However, if not, can you please explain how the monger is a scammer in this situation?
CheersI watched it and I didn't see where he can be found scamming her or anyone else. He's an affable yet needy chap who is really out of his depth. I recall he visited the country a few times before finding his love. Pity he didn't learn much.
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