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Amavida

12-02-14, 06:01

I am on FC and I am straight forward, I don't mislead the girls and I still get all the sex I can handle.

Here is a response from a woman I was chatting with who explained why she was using a fake name. Some douche bag from America misled her and then when she caught him in his lies he treated her poorly. You will read that she actually tried to kill herself. Being a douche bag can have horrible circumstances and results.

"what I did was I have to forget and move on, but after 1 month he called me again asking for my forgiveness, because the girl in bohol was already married and has 3 children, but since I was so mad at him I dump him. Then he was do mad at me, he said if I can't forgive him then he will post all my naked photos on the site, he he told me that I just take it for granted because I thought he was just use that thing to forgive him. All of a sudden my officemate told me that I have naked photos on the the internet with a caption says I am at at at at I am an escort service together with my number, when I saw the photos and the caption I was so depressed and I tried to kill my self that's why now I am using & as my screen name not my real name because of that incident. So again my real name is at at at at at."

Guys there are so many women that like money and fucking that you don't really need to lie especially when discussing long term commitments. It really is like you are dealing with children who still believe in Santa Clause, pun intended big fat white guys who give presents. And when your poor lying heart is broken please don't be a ****!

Man up, throw something at your mom's basement wall play some online game for a week and get back at it!

Now if you are dealing with a known player who is playing you then sure lie your ass off, but leave the nice girls and there are many of them out of this!

PP.I girl I found on FC recently seemed attractive with a nice personality. She was working as a carer so couldn't cam immediately. Whilst waiting I did my due diligence & easily found her on FB. There was loads of happy couple pics with some ugly fat old Caucasian guy. He had, had her tattooed with his national flag & his name. I spoke to her about it. She said he had done this & then promptly pissed off with another woman. What a scumbag. Now she is left with a permanent reminder not to trust.

AV.

OldJedi

12-02-14, 06:53

FreebieFan

12-03-14, 03:48

From the frequency and the endless repetition of some words and phrases we all know the ladies here copy each other endlessly and generally lack imagination and creativity in their profiles.

"Perverts back off ". Ask a Filipina what a pervert and she will maybe tell you its a guy who wants sex. Well that rules out most guys on the board then.

" Rude people not allowed" Ask the same Filipina and she will say rude is a guy asking for a cam show or making bold suggestions.

" Accept me for what I am not what I have ". Well as most sometimes don't even have bus fare.

" Must be god fearing". Ever want to wind a Filipina up. Ask her " so whos the god that I should fear ".

" Small but terrible" a short girl, generally in the 5 ft 2 category and terrible could be one of many things but not generally sexual things.

" Open minded " . She can be had.

" I like to travel the world " she may not have a passport and maybe hasnt ventured out of her home province but it looks good to say this on a dating site, as her auntie who once went to Singapore also has this on her dating site profile.

" One man woman". Just as we are one women man generally, except in the case of 3 somes. The implication is that she is faithful but we all know that that can be stretching the truth often. "he was my cousin, were were just friends, I'm still exclusive to you ".

" looking for a man who is loving, understanding and can accept my kids" means, will you pay, now and always.

"I'm not looking for rich and handsome, being good is enough for me. " Means if you arent rich or handsome I will accept your WU donations but will never meet you. LOL.

" liars not allowed ". I might tell you the odd whitey, such as being at Ate Glo's place when I was with my ex BF but I prefer you don't lie too frequently to me.

" Simple but rock ". Who knows the meaning of this one??

"looking for my prince ". Sorry honey, Harry and William are busy, will I do?

" willing to stay with me forever ". Well at least for a few days.

" a guy who will marry me ". Newbies take heart. It doesn't actually mean she wants to marry you. It means she put this on her profile but she might equally accept an afternoon delight.

" I want to know more about me ". Not a spelling error, this one crops up now and is repeated often by people who don't realise what they are writing. Or maybe they are going through self psycho analysis.

" I to play badminton " an astonishingly high number of ladies like to play badminton, but I rarely see anyone playing. Same with volleyball.

" I have long hair " I couldn't think of anything else to write so I think I will attract you by telling you about my hair length, which is the same as all the other girls.

" I'm not like the others". Two legs, two arms, two small boobs, long hair. Remarkably similar to all the others.

BrainDrain

12-03-14, 04:07

" Accept me for what I am not what I have ". Well as most sometimes don't even have bus fare.I've seen similar ones to this "Accept me the way I am" or "Accept me". I've found that this is a term that the ladyboy will use.

Thanks for the good summary and giggle.

Mogwai

12-03-14, 10:36

" Simple but rock ". Who knows the meaning of this one??
Thick as a brick?

Sam 14

12-03-14, 17:51

" I'm not like the others". Two legs, two arms, two small boobs, long hair. Remarkably similar to all the others.That's funny man, and so true. One of the nicest compliments you can pay a filipina is tell her she's not like all the others. Likewise, one of the worst insults you could deal would be to "compare her".

Questor55

12-03-14, 19:18

I am poor, unemployed, but, hell, I do love to party!

Ikksman

12-03-14, 21:23

Thick as a brick?I have seen this phrase used on a number of PI dating sites. I think that it means someone who is simple but who also rocks - and by simple they don't mean simpleton! Haha.

Azmodeus Fl

12-04-14, 15:46

They are so proud of using phrases with out really knowing the meaning of the phrase. I think if they knew it meant "stupid" they would stop using it.

I have seen this phrase used on a number of PI dating sites. I think that it means someone who is simple but who also rocks - and by simple they don't mean simpleton! Haha.

X Man

12-04-14, 16:32

I thought the same thing at first, but it's just one of this standard phrases gals will use.

I've seen similar ones to this "Accept me the way I am" or "Accept me". I've found that this is a term that the ladyboy will use.

Thanks for the good summary and giggle.

Amavida

12-05-14, 00:28

With a bit luck, I only have appointments with young first timers (in case of meeting a foreigner).Low mileage is definitely a good thing in my opinion but don't get too hung up about exactly how many & what type of penis she has or has not had prior to you. They lie about Pinoy BF's & foreigner BF's. Accept it, you'll drive yourself nuts otherwise. The main questions you should be asking yourself are: Is she near by? Is she sexually attractive? Will she come to your play room for funs?

AV.

FreebieFan

12-05-14, 01:46

They are so proud of using phrases with out really knowing the meaning of the phrase. I think if they knew it meant "stupid" they would stop using it.To you, the phrase "simple" means stupid. To a filipjna it means she doesn't have a lot of wealth, lives an easy going life, isn't into jewellery and make up, and probably goes to bed early having eaten a simple meal of rice etc.

The meaning of the word " simple" is different in Philippines to the context into which you might put it.

Got to know your target audience to get the most hits.

Pantot

12-05-14, 02:19

To you, the phrase "simple" means stupid. To a filipjna it means she doesn't have a lot of wealth, lives an easy going life, isn't into jewellery and make up, and probably goes to bed early having eaten a simple meal of rice etc.

The meaning of the word " simple" is different in Philippines to the context into which you might put it.

Got to know your target audience to get the most hits.Yes simple is a characteristic that the majority are very proud to self identify as. And I have come to really look for simple and appreciate it. Its one of the self images I have come to agree with them on. For instance if you give them as you mentioned. Jewelry, sooner rather than later they will pawn it for a fraction of what it likely cost the foreigner. When I see noticeable makeup on a Filipino first time meeting in on a cam, my gaydar usually goes to signal 4 and I steer clear and move on. For me its not an attractive look. If they aren't gay usually its some gay advising them on beauty tips which always degrades their natural attractive look.

The fixation with pointed noses and white skin is another matter. Often native pinoy men are shocked that a 'rich' guy like me would not choose a more 'pretty' pinay instead of the brown ones I tend to favor. Also the ones with wavy or curled hair are scorned and I like them too. The tall 'white' spotlight ice dancer types or famous soap opera princesses do nothing for me. If I wanted a white girl I wouldn't be travelling halfway around the world.

Red Kilt

12-05-14, 04:48

. . . . <SNIP> . . . When I see noticeable makeup on a Filipino first time meeting in on a cam, my gaydar usually goes to signal 4 and I steer clear and move on. For me its not an attractive look. If they aren't gay usually its some gay advising them on beauty tips which always degrades their natural attractive look.
I agree that girls wearing heavy makeup on cams need checking but, in general, even the "simple" girls wear makeup when they go outside if they can get it or afford it. Filipinas are IMHO the most cosmetically conscious of any women I have seen anywhere.

They apply the makeup very very thickly.

Any girl who is not wearing makeup is almost always too poor to afford even the cheap nasty brands sold in the Philippines.

I was not so aware of the make-up factor until several Aussie female visitors pointed it out to me (including my daughter).

The comment was "My God, these girls use so much make-up on their faces Dad. It is caked on".

Now I tend to notice it much more than I had previously.

Check it out next time you are walking in the malls. Some girls wear so much makeup one wonders just what it is hiding.

Of course, the large malls require girls to have heavy make-up applied as part of their contract. The girls are inspected by supervisors before they start work.

All bars have gays employed as make-up artists to paint up the girls before they go on stage.

It explains why some guys get a bit of a shock after the all-nighter when the beauty that they remember from the night before looks rather ordinary next morning without the benefit of cosmetic enhancements.

Amavida

12-05-14, 05:53

Check it out next time you are walking in the malls. Some girls wear so much makeup one wonders just what it is hiding.
Cultural cringe. Trying to look like the East Asian ideal. Acne scars are common. Many see ad's for facial scrubs & it's just about the surest way to GIVE yourself cystic acne.

AV.

Cunning Stunt

12-05-14, 07:46

Of course, the large malls require girls to have heavy make-up applied as part of their contract. The girls are inspected by supervisors before they start work.

I concur. The worst offenders are store girls, particularly in SM. You often see otherwise pretty girls with layers of that ridiculous white shit on their boats, looking like rejects from the casting couch of The Living Dead. They are also often seen in the most unsexy stockings that are like the surgical hose that my granny used to wear.

FreebieFan

12-05-14, 09:08

I concur. The worst offenders are store girls, particularly in SM. You often see otherwise pretty girls with layers of that ridiculous white shit on their boats, looking like rejects from the casting couch of The Living Dead. They are also often seen in the most unsexy stockings that are like the surgical hose that my granny used to wear.One of the joys of working on 5 month contracts (aside from no SS, Pag-Ibig or PhilHealth) is that they are searched on entering and on exiting. Those girls are happy to wear thick search proof stockings, as apparently some of the searches can be quite intrusive.

Totally off topic but one assumes the sheer size of SM allows them to get away with clear violations of the labour law by only providing 5 month non renewable contract work. For SM it works as it prevents unionisation, which is a fundamental legal right within the Philippines.

Amavida

12-05-14, 09:42

One of the joys of working on 5 month contracts (aside from no SS, Pag-Ibig or PhilHealth) is that they are searched on entering and on exiting. Those girls are happy to wear thick search proof stockings, as apparently some of the searches can be quite intrusive.

Totally off topic but one assumes the sheer size of SM allows them to get away with clear violations of the labour law by only providing 5 month non renewable contract work. For SM it works as it prevents unionisation, which is a fundamental legal right within the Philippines.I don't know about any sexual assaults on girls, I'm in the industry, there are female & male security personnel, not aware that this is a big problem, but I do know those stockings are 'support hose' worn for the same exact reason granny did. They have to stand for 12 hours a day, six days a week with only three 15 minute breaks per shift.

All employers abuse the labour laws here. Does any politician here make any effort to improve things by scrapping the 5 month limit? Not on yer nelly!

AV.

FreebieFan

12-05-14, 10:01

I don't know about any sexual assaults on girls,

All employers abuse the labour laws here. Does any politician here make any effort to improve things by scrapping the 5 month limit? Not on yer nelly!

AV.Knew a young lady who ran away from home, and from a Scottish BF who was trying to marry her (!) and took a job in SM.

She had bad stories about some of the body searches that went on, from the more macho tomboyish female security guards, especially on the pretty girls.

(the girl did marry him, moved to Scotland with him and he's now in prison for beating her one time too many).

But we digress. Back to chat rooms and pen pals discussion.

Member #4387

12-06-14, 03:56

Have been ticking in quite a lot of PM's in my inbox the last year and many of the punters contacting me asks about my MO working them datingsites etc as I have been somewhat "successful" in doing so. Many (me incl) have over the years and recently put out a few heads up in what is important to avoid no show girls, avoid money requests, avoid girls who won't fuck first date, avoid scammers, avoid LB's, avoid BG's etc etc. Many punters find it confusing and that the information are hard to find (been debated in another thread lately as well). So instead of answering you all one by one (or as in a copy paste operation) I hope you folks find it ok if I post atleast my Modus Operandi(MO)here. I don't say this is the perfect recipe but atleast this is how I have done it the last years and it still continues. I have directed my "work" more or less over to the FB by now. I have been using them datingsites the past 11 years so I believe I can say I am atleast somewhat skilled even if I don't know it all.

I have over the years used many many datingsites but for the phils i have directed my biz to mostly Filipino Cupid(FC), Pinalove(PL) and DIA. PL/FC by far the most used by me. As mentioned in first paragraph FB have become a dear friend and from maby 30 contacts a year ago it now runs on the high 500 numbers(all girls ofcourse). I also have a fleet of regular girls, i meet on occation some mallgirls and some i meet in normal hi so nightclubs. I have pretty much stopped conducting any biz at Havana(i was a FL guy before). I stay in Makati and thats it. Some girls go in on a repeat program and are safe bets if some hazzles occures. Mostly they are picked out from looks and performance ofcourse. My agespan will be from 20 to 25 in general with max 2 years plus/minus. For the plus it is no exact rule realy but i for sure will not go below 18. I like them somewhat tall.

For the datingsites a catchy and easy straight forward profile is all it takes realy. I have been doing my own small research programs in how I model my profiles over the years. What I have concluded is that a direct non offensive one is working the best and with my own pic on the side of it. I have found out that it is by far the best the girls themself press their interest, favorite me or contact me (yes, I am aware many girls just do this from reflex without any deep meaning behind it). I also make it very clear in my profile headlines "READ MY PROFILE" and I allways with no exceptions starts with "NO LB" and "NO MONEY REQUEST" wanted. This more or less rules out girls / guys of mentioned categories and if it isn't I allways, when they send me 1 msg, ask if they have read my profile anyway. I catch and screen away some more people at this stage. I used to get more than enough hits evenmore that i have ever been able to handle. After initial contact it is a fast switch into C2 C as I don't want to waste time with "fuglies"(also debated recently and Westie has some good pointers here). If they are accepted through the cammed skype session we are good to go. At this stage I normaly get the girls digits(without this actually meaning squat).

When is it the right time to fire up a profile? I used to fire up my profiles 2 weeks prior to my arrival date. Today doing the FB routine with my fake account, ofcourse this runs all the time but I get more request from friends of friends aka girls I have fucked than I can handle anyway, so I start to accept their request 2 weeks prior to my arrival. It is not an exact science as I sometimes can, within a day or two, simply decide I want to go visit pussy heaven (if my domestic GF go away or sth on a short notice). This makes my pre work a bit different but still enough time to arrange atleast two girls for the arrival day (depends a bit on the arrival time ofcourse). Then I work from my Makati apt. During the 2 weeks i usualy picked from 40/50 girls to work from, narrowing themdown to 10/20/30 depending on the length of my stay. I have found that for my 3/4 days stay 10/15 girls is good to work from. 10 days stay i work from 30. This does not mean i fuck all i work out from guys as i also add in my regulars, mallgirls and nightclubgirls in an undefined rotation. Just saying.

Even if it sounds like it I don't spend much time using datingsites (atleast not the latter years as I have become more skilled). I am effective and set up dates almost like in a workscheduel program. I experience what I can call almost 100% successrate as in no girls pull the "no show" card on me (I can remember 2 no shows from what must now been a few hundred girls). Latecommers can occure but I stress this very much in my precommunication so I don't view this as a problem. I am a nazi regarding I want the girls to come my place anyway so if a girl happens to be a bit late I can have a drink, pop a V and watch an episode of Family Guy. After some newbee mistakes I have learned not to scheduel the girls so tight so I have some slack as I try to fit in some evidence removals before new girly arrival anyway.

Why do I not experience no shows? I get the point some of the girls are sick and tired of guys chatting them over a long periode of time even though the guy have no idea to set foot on phil soil (aka waste of the girls time). The girls gets tired from this. I am fast in showing them pics of me beeing actually in the phils. A pic of me and my hotels typhoon warning makes the girl know I am actually atleast a potential guy who will come to phils as I have been here quite recent. I have also other pics of me at the small park with dolphins outside Glorietta 4 with x mas ornaments (gives the girl an idea I was here very recent as well). I also choose girls live in areas close by so it shortens the girls travel distance and effort to come see me.

The job is not done when you have the girls digits. Many of us have experienced bad receptions, connection cuts, girls don't answer and this ever ending pasaload request. If I clearly sense that a girl are actually out of load I pass on some pisos theough my phone (atleast for the Smart system it is easy to give out some load). Except from that I am allergic to moneyrequest but my girls are well informed about that through precommunication but some try the small ammounts anyway. Many girls have many phones and if I find this out I skip them bcs then they most likely are BG or P4 P. Most of the normal girls I try to run after have sometimes enough holding one phone up and running, hehe. For girls in BG category I try avoid them but ofcourse sometimes this fails. To scope for the BG i see when they are logged in FB/Datingsites(no exact science).

The most used frase the day our meet is going to take place is "I don't have money for transportation". The latter years I have put this in my profile that if we meet I expect her to have money to get to my place without hazzle. I allways offers to reimburse their travelcosts ofcourse. In most cases this works out fine but atleast in earlier years this was a big problem and from reading here and there in various forums it seems this problem still exists. I never used to send them money but I offered to send a car, I take a taxi to meet them or I meet them by the taxi to pay the driver. Girls did not accept this soulution were ditched as they probably just wanted to travel money (as earlier stated this problem actually stopped now). I have one girl flying in from Cebu covering her travelcost herself so then a girl living close to Makati should be able to do it.

In precommunication it is most important to make the girl understand she has to come my place. If denied it is a no go. I have had a few saying no at first but then after a few days change their minds. As many others also experience when a girl first arrives my place it is very unlikely fucking will not happen. I only meet girls as a normal date if i happens to be hungry or something. Then we can go Outback or Tony Ramos(TR). One thing i experienced my last trip was not so nice. I was at TR the day before eating with my new arrived girl. We ate and walked to my apt and fucked. The next day i walked inside with a new girl but when i arrived the staff serving me said "will u have the same to drink as yesterday, sir?". What was wrong with this u can ask. Well, it is very wrong when the girl sitting at your table happens to believe u arrived earlier the same day. So from now on i have to alert the staff or expand my choice of eateries(there are quite a lot in the Glorietta 4/5 area). This is what can happens with some small white lies atleast i throw in at times(nothing cruel but only needed to get the logistic of girls to add itself up):-)

My girls mostly come from the segment we probably can call normal girls / party girls. By normal girls I mean students, girls with normal jobs (SM mall, call center, banks etc) or a bit classy girls enjoying the Hi so nightlife. What they all have in common is that no money is discussed and even if I allways compensate them on a generous side they don't know this when they arrive my designated meetingpoint (e few meters from my hotel entrance). Lately working mostly FB and feasting on friends from girls I fuck ofcourse these friends know I compensate. Thats why I allways to each and one of the FB girls say something like "this is a rare exceptions but you gave me so good time so I just wanted to give you a gift". Atleast I hope the jungletelegraph is running like hell in their group of friends so their performance will keep going on the high side as they atleast can hope for a gift. So far so good. Next please.

Hutsori

12-06-14, 06:27

Have been ticking in quite a lot of PM's in my inbox the last year and many of the punters contacting me asks about my MO working them datingsites etc as I have been somewhat "successful" in doing so.This is pretty much the definitive guide. I'll add:

1) If the girl asks for a load prior to your meeting time 5 pesos is enough. Give her more then she's surfing the web, checking facebook, and wasting time when she should be getting ready.

2) I always send a link to google map of the meeting place (next door to my condo) and I make sure she confirms she knows where it is and how to get there. For the clueless I send step-by-step instructions how to get to my place.

3) Tell the girl she must text you when she departs for your meeting place. Be firm about it. With first timers I usually send a text a few hours before telling them how excited I am to meet them and to remind them to let me know when they are leaving. If you get no reply after a while that indicates a potential missed meeting. I follow up with another text letting her know that if I don't get a reply soon I will meet someone else instead. That's often a catalyst.

4) When she arrives turn off your wifi.

SergeantRay

12-06-14, 21:29

Skogis, thank you so much for that eye-opening info. I've copied the whole post and highlighted key parts.

You actually lucked out with the Tony Roma's incident. Once in Puerto Galera the boatman told the girl I was with all about the girl I had taken on the boat yesterday. All in Tagalog.

Of course, if the girl I was with hadn't told me about it, I would have been totally unaware.

SergeantRay

12-06-14, 23:24

What if there were an archive of posts like these (Skogi's report, for example) and not just in posts of distinction, but an archive with informative posts on topics such as internet dating, bar girls, passports, etc.

So much of what is posted on here is random chatter; it would be good to have links to articles that posters could refer to and discuss. I'd hate to see Skogi's post get lost in the clutter.

On a more substantive note, I might add that on a last online profile I included a picture of me with a Filipina ex-girlfriend. The focus was on me, but part of her face was in the picture, as though I hadn't intended to show it. The portrait was successful, because I got a lot of messages like, "Who's the girl in your photo?" She was good-looking, which made me look good (not like a desperate guy with a fat old hag) and the fact that she was Filipina proved that I had been in the Philippines and was not just an armchair fantasizer and masturbator.

I plan on exploring the idea more in the future.

Amavida

12-07-14, 00:50

Once in Puerto Galera the boatman told the girl I was with all about the girl I had taken on the boat yesterday. All in Tagalog. Of course, if the girl I was with hadn't told me about it, I would have been totally unaware.Filipino men have no money & no manners (they blab). Pinays are surrounded by a sea of Pinoy BF's but as soon a they let them shag them, the guy will run all over her barangay blabbing his farking mouth off.

As you just discovered, security guards, doormen, reception staff, wait persons, taxi drivers & any other staff you interact with can reliably expected to tip a can of shit on you every chance they get.

If staying in one place you can mitigate by tipping well, giving little food gifts etc to buy a little discretion from them. Knowing a few rudimentary words of the language & bluffing staff into thinking you can understand what they are saying tends to tone down their big mouths. Lastly, try to vary your routine so that you're not too easily tracked. In the end best to be upfront that you're a busy boy.

AV.

OldJedi

12-07-14, 02:07

..." I'm not like the others". Two legs, two arms, two small boobs, long hair. Remarkably similar to all the others.Thanks, great work.

Member #4387

12-07-14, 03:16

This is pretty much the definitive guide. I'll add:

1) If the girl asks for a load prior to your meeting time 5 pesos is enough. Give her more then she's surfing the web, checking facebook, and wasting time when she should be getting ready.

2) I always send a link to google map of the meeting place (next door to my condo) and I make sure she confirms she knows where it is and how to get there. For the clueless I send step-by-step instructions how to get to my place.

3) Tell the girl she must text you when she departs for your meeting place. Be firm about it. With first timers I usually send a text a few hours before telling them how excited I am to meet them and to remind them to let me know when they are leaving. If you get no reply after a while that indicates a potential missed meeting. I follow up with another text letting her know that if I don't get a reply soon I will meet someone else instead. That's often a catalyst.

4) When she arrives turn off your wifi.Great pointers there Huts.

Nr 1 and 3. Agreed. When its getting close or when I have an idea they should be getting ready I stress the importance of beeing on time (as I have in our precommunication as well). I think in fact putting some stress on them makes them more focused so these days latecommers are not a problem anymore. Combined with my nowadays more loose sched it works out fine. But our sweethearts are easily distracted so shipping huge amounts of pisos around to give them load are pure silly.

Nr 2. I am not that high tech and the fact I mostly choose girls living nearby pretty much excludes this as a factor. But and there is allways a but (t) occationaly I run into a spinner having no clue where Glorietta Mall is. I then give the adress and point them into googling it themself. If they don't have internet I give them the hotels adress or I ask them to get the driver to call me (I encourage them to take taxi) so I atleast can make sure the driver knows where he is heading. So in a way I sometimes use your step by step operation.

Nr 4. Hard for me living in a serviced apt as the hole floor or great parts of it will disconnect. In general speaking I have not had to much trouble regarding this. I have started to use the frase "log off phones (tablets whatever) and lets log on life (lets talk, get down to business)". It works. My hidden motives are ofcourse to draw the focus into what is soon about to happen and start the game. While having a break I don't mind they check their phone and I even allow them making phonecalls. I make it clear they should talk in their native language. I've had speciments bringing their phones into the CR and while I commit a small spyact I can hear some talking in english (mostly I think we know who she is talking to). Well, when they break our agreement and trust I put out a small asshole act and maby hammering the CR door hard and with my commanding voice screaming I need to use the toilet (a bit cruel maby but I hate sneaking and trustbreaking). It allways cracks me up hearing the CR burst into total panic and all sorts of excuses are beeing made to the, most likely guy, at the other end of the line. If a girl is upfront she need to call her BF, husband, sponsor etc, no problem and I will only sit and breath quitly (I am not there to relationship them anyways). This haven't happened in a while now by the way.

Red Kilt

12-07-14, 04:13

I hadn't seen this list before.

At the end it lists 7 free sites that might suit a number of members on this board.

http://www.filipinodatingsites.com/

Member #4643

12-07-14, 15:41

James Bond 1

12-07-14, 22:35

I've had speciments bringing their phones into the CR and while I commit a small spyact I can hear some talking in english (mostly I think we know who she is talking to). Well, when they break our agreement and trust I put out a small asshole act and maby hammering the CR door hard and with my commanding voice screaming I need to use the toilet (a bit cruel maby but I hate sneaking and trustbreaking). It allways cracks me up hearing the CR burst into total panic and all sorts of excuses are beeing made to the, most likely guy, at the other end of the line.What's CR?

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WestCoast1

12-07-14, 22:36

This is some sort of filipino-speak, I believe. Does this mean giving her money for her cell phone in order that she can chat with you or text?

I know how this is done in Brazil or other parts of Latin America (it generally requires taking the girl to a store and buying some time), but how do you do this in the Philippines?Several ways. You can take a girl to a store (or places on the street) and buy her time.

Or you can 'pasaload' directly from your phone to hers; which will deduct the same amount from yours as you are transferring to hers. I think this only works from one SIM card provider to the same SIM card provider (ie, Smart to Smart). She must have the same brand of SIM card in her phone as you have in yours. Gents is that correct? You find that 'pasaload' option in your SIM card settings.

Radical Guy

12-07-14, 23:16

What's CR?

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: There is a link labeled "Abbreviations" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. Thanks!A CR is the abbreviation for "comfort room," which is what Filipinos call a restroom or bathroom. By the way, CR is not among the ISG list of abbreviations.

RG.

Pip Jaeger

12-07-14, 23:34

Does this mean giving her money for her cell phone in order that she can chat with you or text?

Several ways. You can take a girl to a store (or places on the street) and buy her time.

Or you can 'pasaload' directly from your phone to hers; which will deduct the same amount from yours as you are transferring to hers. I think this only works from one SIM card provider to the same SIM card provider (ie, Smart to Smart). She must have the same brand of SIM card in her phone as you have in yours. Gents is that correct? You find that 'pasaload' option in your SIM card settings.The girl does not have to be with you, you can just go to about any sari sari / convenience store and have them send a load to her. Most of them will charge about 3 pesos extra for the service.

The "pasaload" option is a feature only for Smart users, I don't think it or anything similar is offered by Globe, Sun or any of the other Telco's.

I normally only send smaller amounts, say 20-50 pesos, but I have sent larger amounts to a few regular girls in the past. Sometimes the sari sari's will balk at it as they often only have small balances on their own accounts. So, for amounts over 200 - 300 pesos, it's easier to buy a prepaid card, scratch off the pin number on the back and text it to her along with the number that she has to call (no balance is needed to call the special toll free number). She can then load her phone herself.

GoodEnough

12-07-14, 23:39

The girl does not have to be with you, you can just go to about any sari sari / convenience store and have them send a load to her. Most of them will charge about 3 pesos extra for the service.

The "pasaload" option is a feature only for Smart users, I don't think it or anything similar is offered by Globe, Sun or any of the other Telco's?Both Smart and Globe offer the pasaload service though the procedures for sending are slightly different. It's quite easy to do however, for either company.

GE.

Pip Jaeger

12-07-14, 23:43

Both Smart and Globe offer the pasaload service though the procedures for sending are slightly different. It's quite easy to do however, for either company.

GE.Just goes to show you how much Pinay's know about their own stuff here. I just asked one of the girls who's riding out the storm with me about it and she told me it's only offered by Smart, thanks for the correction GE.

Ikksman

12-08-14, 00:47

Or you can 'pasaload' directly from your phone to hers; which will deduct the same amount from yours as you are transferring to hers. I think this only works from one SIM card provider to the same SIM card provider (ie, Smart to Smart). She must have the same brand of SIM card in her phone as you have in yours. Gents is that correct? You find that 'pasaload' option in your SIM card settings.I believe that you are correct. You do not need to go to a sari store.

In 2013 I was able to:

1. transfer load from my own phone to girl's phone

2. buy load directly from Telco (can't remember whether Smart or Globe), for her phone

3. use 3rd party companies who would do the load transfer for me, even when I was not in PI.

Ikksman

OldJedi

12-08-14, 01:59

...3. use 3rd party companies who would do the load transfer for me, even when I was not in PI.

Ikksman...Yeah, try to google "send load to the Philippines", I also use it to load my own cell if I run out of load outside from the Philippines".

Sammon

12-08-14, 02:08

I believe that you are correct. You do not need to go to a sari store.

In 2013 I was able to:

1. transfer load from my own phone to girl's phone

2. buy load directly from Telco (can't remember whether Smart or Globe), for her phone

3. use 3rd party companies who would do the load transfer for me, even when I was not in PI.

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"You can transfer load from any company carrier to any phone. There are some numbers to push and there are limits as well as you will loose some load on transfer. Girls are adept at this.

WestCoast1

12-08-14, 03:15

You can transfer load from any company carrier to any phone. There are some numbers to push and there are limits as well as you will loose some load on transfer. Girls are adept at this.In addition, there are websites such as www.aryty.com (sounds a bit like alrighty). You make an account there with your credit card. You enter in your pinay's phone number. You can then transmit preset amounts to her. For instance, I think if she has Globe, you can send p115, p300, p550 (or similar), and you must choose one of those amounts. P115 is about $2. 63 USD. Aryty.com takes a cut, by adding a bit, to the sale. Usually my credit card gets hit for about $2. 78 (about 15 cents, or p7, above the actual exchange rate). You can create an address book in aryty with multiple girl's names and phone numbers (pinays can often have two SIM cards in their phones at once, one for say Globe, and one for say Smart), and you can enter both numbers into Aryty. You can then load either SIM card from any internet connection.

On occasion I surprise one of my repeat "good-to-me" girls with a load out of the blue (easy there) from across the pond. $2. 78 sure does carry some good girl / bad girl / good will.

Amavida

12-09-14, 03:00

Just goes to show you how much Pinay's know about their own stuff here. I just asked one of the girls who's riding out the storm with me about it and she told me it's only offered by Smart, thanks for the correction GE.Inside PI:

SMART, Globe & Sun cellular each have a service for sending load (call credit) between subscribers on the same network.

http://loadphones.com/smart/pasaload/

Outside PI:

There are many online stores where you can purchase load (call credit) for prepaid cellular devices.

http://www.mypinoyload.com

I hope this helps.

Cheers.

AV.

Dg8787

12-09-14, 03:51

Just goes to show you how much Pinay's know about their own stuff here. I just asked one of the girls who's riding out the storm with me about it and she told me it's only offered by Smart, thanks for the correction GE.PJ,

I wouldn't use this example to indict the whole Pinay population. I am sure there are many minute things about your home country cell service that you do not know about. We can all smart up some!

DG8787.

Disclaimer. DS, I am not redicuing or harassing or making fun of anyone.

Pip Jaeger

12-09-14, 23:22

PJ,

I wouldn't use this example to indict the whole Pinay population. SNIPThat wasn't my intent, I should have used a qualifier and said "some Pinays"; my bad. In the future I'll try to more careful so as not to upset either some of the population or some of the board's Nazis.

FreebieFan

12-10-14, 01:37

Amavida

12-10-14, 04:03

During last trip, was sitting around Greenbelt when a wechat "near me " popped up. We met and had a coffee together, but she's a working girl which I generally don't do, having sufficient freebies to play with.

Said girl sends out a daily morning "moments " post now, showing which hotel she's in. Usually she seems to be in Fairmont, Raffles, Pen and Shang, and even though she's no oil painting she clearly seems to attract the higher rollers.

So whoever bought her the club sandwich for breakfast at 10.00 am Monday morning, she enjoyed and presumably you enjoyed the fruit platter.

And she's very happy with the guy who bought her the Swarovski crystal ornament.

And clearly her early morning prayers in Greenbelts church will have cleared her sins so she can play again tonight.

The point being, be careful how much information you let the girl du jour post. Same as wasteoftimebook. You can't delete what someone else has posted.These types of sex workers exist everywhere. I call this 'Vanity Prostitution' I. E the punters involved think paying huge sums makes their sex worker special. Nothing could be further from the truth of course but whatever.

As for wastebook, I know some punters are very enthusiastic about it but I'll be buggered if I can find a way to have privacy.

As far as I can tell the safest way to be on it is:

1) Setup a new email account that you have never (and will never) give out to another soul.

2) Setup a new SIM card which like wise has never been used to communicate with another soul.

3) Set up a completely fake profile with non identifiable profile pic & no true personal info.

4) Toil through all the myriad privacy settings on Wastebook trying to lock it down.

5) Go back & repeat step 4 again & again ad nauseum every time Wastebook decides to, unannounced, change all the settings, resetting them back to wide bloody open.

Having done all this you will find that you will STILL be bloody found by people you don't want finding you!

Unless you have movie star looks & fabulous wealth having girls leave comments & incriminating photos usually results in too much jealousy & collateral damage.

Every so often I have to set EVERYTHING to completely private, remove, ahem, former friends & all their shit then turn the profile off for awhile until I need it again.

It starts to feel like work rather than fun to tell you the truth.

AV.

Pantot

12-10-14, 05:36

4) Toil through all the myriad privacy settings on Wastebook trying to lock it down.

5) Go back & repeat step 4 again & again ad nauseum every time Wastebook decides to, unannounced, change all the settings, resetting them back to wide bloody open.

Having done all this you will find that you will STILL be bloody found by people you don't want finding you!This harkens me back to the time a few of years ago when yahoo decided unannounced that they would become the new f**kbook, suddenly overnight all my girls were interconnected with my other girls and I was scrambling for a couple of days trying to get control of my privacy.

Needless to say I try to keep my social media footprint somewhere between a gnats ass and invisible. I could never have a public profile I would be doomed.

BrainDrain

12-10-14, 09:06

During last trip, was sitting around Greenbelt when a wechat "near me " popped up. We met and had a coffee together, but she's a working girl which I generally don't do, having sufficient freebies to play with.I quite like wechat. The wechat hits I've been getting in Phils have mainly be lady boys. Wechat at home for me works well for CHinese female students.

I did make a nice wechat hookup in AC with a non-pro, non FL girl.

On my next trip, I will continue to cast around on wechat but of course, be careful what they post.

X Man

12-10-14, 13:29

PJ, that's a bit over the top. Yes, you should have used a qualifier and you should not be calling people nazis.

That wasn't my intent, I should have used a qualifier and said "some Pinays"; my bad. In the future I'll try to more careful so as not to upset either some of the population or some of the board's Nazis.

OldJedi

12-14-14, 13:54

Just back from my visit with only online dating on FC, Badoo and OkCupid.

Mixed results, but an overall very positive result.

The bad side: You have to invest a lot time and need to have some experience in identify scams.

Best results on FC, some on OkCupid nothing on Badoo.

Be aware that some of innocents have some mileage.

But there is a real chance to find real first timer.

For one of the girls (19), it was the second time.

The size probably matters. Her Pinoy boyfriend has probably failed to deflower her.

To avoid misunderstandings, I have always said directly that it is about a visit to my hotel room and not a serious relationship. Nevertheless, there are girls who do not understand that sex is the name of the game.

X Man

12-15-14, 13:05

THanks for the info. At what point did a gal not realize that sx is the name of the game? In the hotel room? Were they expecting to watch tv? What would you have done differently?

It's truly amazing how many variations that we've seen here on the "chat" forum. I've never used either of the connections you suggested.

Just back from my visit with only online dating on FC, Badoo and OkCupid.

Mixed results, but an overall very positive result.

The bad side: You have to invest a lot time and need to have some experience in identify scams.

Best results on FC, some on OkCupid nothing on Badoo.

Be aware that some of innocents have some mileage.

But there is a real chance to find real first timer.

For one of the girls (19), it was the second time.

The size probably matters. Her Pinoy boyfriend has probably failed to deflower her.

To avoid misunderstandings, I have always said directly that it is about a visit to my hotel room and not a serious relationship. Nevertheless, there are girls who do not understand that sex is the name of the game.

The Cane

12-16-14, 23:56

Spidy

12-17-14, 02:28

...put out a few heads up in what is important to avoid no show girls, avoid money requests, avoid girls who won't fuck first date, avoid scammers, avoid LB's, avoid BG's etc etc. Many punters find it confusing and that the information are hard to find (been debated in another thread lately as well). So instead of answering you all one by one (or as in a copy paste operation) I hope you folks find it ok if I post atleast my Modus Operandi(MO)here. I don't say this is the perfect recipe but atleast this is how I have done it the last years and it still continues. I have directed my "work" more or less over to the FB by now. I have been using them datingsites the past 11 years so I believe I can say I am atleast somewhat skilled even if I don't know it all. Awesome work Skogis. Thank you for your efforts, it is very much appreciated. Haven't yet tried the asian dating sites or FB, but your comprehensive 'manual' (LOL!) gives me hope, when I do decide to navigate and sail in some pretty choppy waters.

Many thanks again sailor!

Amavida

12-17-14, 02:46

Are any of you guys following this story? I wonder if the marine did "Jennifer" in the hotel room only to find out that she used to be "Jeffrey"? And then in a rage he committed murder! Apparently this transgender Filipino had a German fiancee named Mark Sueselbeck. Some wild stuff!

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/12/1...6pLid%3D582176

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/15/world/...ender-slaying/Thats the case against him, except lacking specific whether he 'did' he / she / it before commiting murder or after. The salacious tidbit about the German fiancé is nice but wouldn't it be even better with necrophilia thrown in to spice the mix? I'm feeling a very sick puppy today LOL!

AV.

MrHombre

12-17-14, 05:14

I also see these girls without any prior discussion of compensation. When they are ready to leave, I tell them I want to give them a small gift so that they will eat well and not get skinny. (as f they are not already). 500=1,000 pesos shyly accepted. If they try to go without, I nicely but firmly insist, and put it in their pocket or purse.

My girls mostly come from the segment we probably can call normal girls / party girls. By normal girls I mean students, girls with normal jobs (SM mall, call center, banks etc) or a bit classy girls enjoying the Hi so nightlife. What they all have in common is that no money is discussed and even if I allways compensate them on a generous side they don't know this when they arrive my designated meetingpoint (e few meters from my hotel entrance). Lately working mostly FB and feasting on friends from girls I fuck ofcourse these friends know I compensate. Thats why I allways to each and one of the FB girls say something like "this is a rare exceptions but you gave me so good time so I just wanted to give you a gift". Atleast I hope the jungletelegraph is running like hell in their group of friends so their performance will keep going on the high side as they atleast can hope for a gift. So far so good. Next please.

BrainDrain

12-17-14, 08:50

3. use 3rd party companies who would do the load transfer for me, even when I was not in PI.
I recall seeing at least one bus driver whom would transfer load. I think they buy it in bulk for a discount, then sell in smaller amounts at full price. I've also had staff offer to load my phone for me, presumably they are also somehow getting cheaper load than I do.

On the subject of load, I assume everyone signs up for a daily or weekly plan as soon as they arrive. Like UNLI etc to get cheap texts.

Hutsori

12-17-14, 11:56

On the subject of load, I assume everyone signs up for a daily or weekly plan as soon as they arrive. Like UNLI etc to get cheap texts.Learn from my stupidity. When first arrived (or for months and months after) I would load 50 or 100 pesos that I'd burn through in two or three days. Subscribe to a plan. If you are in town for more than a few days I think the best deal going is Smart's mega250. Load 250 pesos in your mobile. Send an sms "mega250" (without quotes) to 2477. This buys you 300 days of unlimited texts to all networks. This is the best part of the plan. You also get 3 hours of voice to Smart subscribers. You also can call Sun and TNT, but there is only one of them, and he's a member here, so you can just PM instead. Also included is 100 mb of Internet.

Member #4351

12-17-14, 15:47

best deal going is Smart's mega250. Load 250 pesos in your mobile. Send an sms "mega250" (without quotes) to 2477.Before Andre (the DNA guy in Cebu) told me about this deal, I was spending thousands for sms loads on Globe. I threw that sim away, changed to Smart and the mega 250 promotion has saved me a lot of money and is definitely the way to go. I always sent MEGA250 message in capitals. Maybe it doesn't matter.

Bamboo Pete

12-17-14, 16:14

Send an sms "mega250" (without quotes) to 2477. This buys you 300 days of unlimited texts to all networks.Well, 300 days would be supercool, but 30 days is still a good deal. I use it since two years and it works well, even I never use the free internet and the free calls, which seem to me a bit complicated. And, be careful, they don't notify you when the 30 days are over.

Globe has some offers too, but double price. Just if someone doesn't want to throw the SIM card away. ALLNET300 for 15 days, and ALLNET500 for 30 days to 8888. Also includes several hours of calls and internet.

Aibolit

12-17-14, 20:32

BrainDrain

12-17-14, 21:44

Hello folks!

Also, is there another free site, like DIA, where I don't have to have a credit card to participate? If the only other such option is FB, then I wonder what the best strategy is for getting traction on FB.

Aibolit.I use Tagged.com for the past four or so years. It's free. Being free it does have quite a few scammers etc. Just follow the rules that have been mentioned here.

1. Ignore / Delete any money rest up front, no prepay of bus fares etc.

2. Be prepared to hold conversational messages over a two week period before you go. Don't start too early.

3. Setup a Skype call prior to meeting to check authenticity.

4. Enjoy.

BD.

George03

12-18-14, 00:34

I use Tagged.com for the past four or so years. It's free. Being free it does have quite a few scammers etc. Just follow the rules that have been mentioned here.

1. Ignore / Delete any money rest up front, no prepay of bus fares etc.

2. Be prepared to hold conversational messages over a two week period before you go. Don't start too early.

3. Setup a Skype call prior to meeting to check authenticity.

4. Enjoy.

BDI made two trips to the Philippines, and reading this and other boards helped. I got on Filipino Cupid several weeks before. I enjoyed the chatting with various girls, and never talked about sex. I spent time in Manila, Cebu, and Davao, then worked my way back so I could tell them I was leaving in a couple of days. I would have been OK with a regular date, but I was able to by chosen in all three cities. I mixed this in with visiting the local bar girls, so I knew I wouldn't be disappointed. I really liked one of my Manila girls, so I met her again before flying home.

I made another trip to Manila, and spent a couple of days hanging around the LA cafe, before meeting my Manila girl again to travel around. Maybe I was lucky but all the girls spent the night with me after a few hours of hanging out. If not, then working girls are not hard to find, kind of a win win!

Of course, I did Skype, etc. Several times with each before meeting them. My Manila girl never asked for money, nor did the others. I kept in touch with her often between the first two trips. Her phone was having problems. I offered to buy her a new one, she wouldn't accept. Haven't heard from her in over a month, no activity shown on Skype, Yahoo. , but anyway, there are girls a plenty. Hoping to make another trip there this summer.

FreebieFan

12-18-14, 01:42

Member #4387

12-18-14, 03:42

Hello folks!

I started to work towards my possible Phil trip and toil over Date In Asia and FB. I have been told by some girls that my frank pronouncement on DIA profile that I'm looking for adult relationship was a turnoff. So, I changed it to say that I want to explore chemistry first, then maybe more. I see a problem with both approaches, as being too forward may scare nice girls off, while not saying what this is all about may waste time by bringing girls that won't do it on the first date. Do the esteemed members of this forum have an opinion or advice on this matter?

Also, is there another free site, like DIA, where I don't have to have a credit card to participate? If the only other such option is FB, then I wonder what the best strategy is for getting traction on FB.

Thank you all in advance for the advice!

Aibolit.The most important thing to remember dealing with datingsites and hunting for girls is that you have to stand out from the crowd. The reason is obvious as many of the hotties around these sites gets lets say hundreds if not thousands of msgs. I have been, with girls permission, browsing their accounts a few times and some have hundreds of unread msgs. Dealing with the group of normal pinays hanging around the datingsites making a catchy and tempting profile is all it takes. I have sometimes even told in my profile I don't like prostitutes and I want educated girl. Sometimes that have been a success. As for the later years I moved more and more over to having direct but non rude profiles. I have also made it a rule (minor exception happens though) girls have to make initial contact. Not that it leaves me the "all in" upper hand but I feel the balance in our communication makes it easier to navigate the girls at my own pace. I make it crystal clear, in a nice way, how I want our "date" to be played out as in a "take it or leave it" kind of thing (money never discussed ofcourse).

Having made the use of various datingsites for quite sometime now things works out smoothly and with very little effort / timewaste too I might add. But you as a datingsitenewbee (according to yourself) have to figure out your own style operating them sites. What works for me might not work for you and vica versa. You will for sure loose some gems along the way trying but as there are a large large large pool of girls out there loosing some is no problem. New gems will pop up before you know it. When a girl accepts to meet at your location the work, in my book, is accomplished. Fucking will happen. Inviting them on a date are in the same book just a waste of time as I am under no circumstances interested in relationshipping the girls. It is "wam bam thank you mam" and a gift in the end kind of happening. Some will have repeatworthiness for sure and that's fine. Then you will after a while have some sure gems to call when you feel lonely / horny.

FB biz is blooming but in my short fake FB history it all started out from a few datingsitegirls / regulars wanted my FB account. Since I back then only did have a genuine one I created a very fake one and put a lot of phil photos with me in it (so the girls know I actually have been to phils and in my case quite a frequent visitor as well). Started with only a few I have now a good 600 FB prospects or so. Some have allready been fucked but I feast from the girls I have fucked and their friends. And so it goes. Just be adviced to be more clever in your security settings than I was in the beginning. After you have fucked a few pinays from FB they will pay close attention to who is commenting your pics or photos. They will throw out "I love you" and "I miss you badly" comments and before I adjusted my settings this played out bad and I was about to skip the hole thing and move back to datingsites. It all calmed itself down with some minor white ones. One girl even managed to write "i miss our bed". Me beeing stupid or whatever i did not catch the meaning of this frase when it first hit my fake FB but i learned fast it means i miss the sex. The worst girls were either blocked or got very little access to my account. First rule: never have your friend list public (600+ all in girls will not look good to anyone from the opposite sex). Meeting girls through the FB is all about having the jungle telegraph working for you. Treating one girl nice 4 of her friends also want to meet you and so it goes almost like in MLM. Many girls also make it quite descrete as they don't want their friend I initially fucked to find out "don't tell my friend about us" are a common frase. By all means fine by me, hehe. Atleast I don't have to say it. What a great world. Good luck.

Red Kilt

12-18-14, 04:08

Also, is there another free site, like DIA, where I don't have to have a credit card to participate? If the only other such option is FB, then I wonder what the best strategy is for getting traction on FB.
If you had RTF, you would have seen Post 8033 in which I listed a link to many free sites.

Here it is again: http://www.filipinodatingsites.com/.

SergeantRay

12-18-14, 05:09

Member #4387

12-18-14, 06:01

Skogis,

I read your post with interest. I spoke with one ex-pat who used facebook frequently. He would go onto facebook in the evening, start up a chat with one of the girls online, and set up a steamy session in his room.Yes when the FB arrangment is well established as in contacts after contacts are adding up it is starting to evolve around its own momentum. It turns into an unstoppable beast which needs to be kept under control. I don't know about "your" ekspat but I make sure to cut (control) the crowd down as I only accept girls living in Makati or its close surroundings (also working in Makati can be accepted if stunning enough). Some guys also try contacting me incl two jealous caucasians. All males are ofcourse instantly blocked down. I get active a few days before my arrival hitting on the girls I want to meet up with. When home I stay quite and leave fake FB mostly alone. Girls I want to do I give a few ground rules and the most important one is that we only communicate through the msg system.

I am sure your contact have relatively simular MO. Having only girls living close by is a big plus factor which shouldn't be underestimated as they can show up relatively fast and makes it easy to add up quite a scheduel in short time.

The downside by dealing with mostly normal / regular girls is that daytimesessions can be hard to come by as most of them are working. Thanks God we have the rather large pool of call center girls and / or hotel receptionists working nightshifts.

Aibolit

12-18-14, 22:03

Thank you all (Skogis in particular) for the very helpful points. I checked Phillipina Cupid and it seems to me to a paid site. All you can do free is to create your account, but other useful things are not free. For me, using credit card is a security risk, so I prefer using free dating sites.

Regardless, I've started some activity on FB and hope to get enough traction on DIA, FB and Skype to compile a roster of possible dates for my 4 days or so in Manila.

Aibolit

Hutsori

12-19-14, 01:46

Well, 300 days would be supercool, but 30 days is still a good deal. I use it since two years and it works well, even I never use the free internet and the free calls, which seem to me a bit complicated. And, be careful, they don't notify you when the 30 days are over.

Globe has some offers too, but double price. Just if someone doesn't want to throw the SIM card away. ALLNET300 for 15 days, and ALLNET500 for 30 days to 8888. Also includes several hours of calls and internet.Whoops, typo by me. It's 30 days. I'm not quite sure how free Internet is a bit complicated; just launch your browser and type the url. For the free voice calls you need to type *2477 + the 11-digit number, so I guess that is a bit complicated. Yes, you will not be notified when your 30 days are up, but that holds true for all periods whether 2 days or 7. You could use your mobile's calendaring to set up a notification to remind you to renew, or simply text globe or smart and you'll get an sms that informs you of when it expires.

Amanut

12-19-14, 02:29

Thank you all (Skogis in particular) for the very helpful points. I checked Phillipina Cupid and it seems to me to a paid site. All you can do free is to create your account, but other useful things are not free. For me, using credit card is a security risk, so I prefer using free dating sites.
Aibolit.I have paid for FC in the past with no issues. You can just take out a thirty day subscription. They do not do auto renewals.

Also, I believe it was Red Kilt who recently posted a link to several other free sites. Take a look through his post history to locate it.

Member #4643

12-19-14, 03:56

I have been kicked off DIA for straight forward honest language.

I can offer $ for sex on Tagged or Hi5 (free sites).

Does anyone have experience with Filipino Cupid or othe paid sites?

James Bond 1

12-19-14, 04:14

Below are some of the most popular social sites in the Philippines. I've included their web traffic rank in the Philippines, from Alexa.com. These sites may not all be useful. Some are mentioned regularly here. Others I found through the link that Red Kilt posted recently. Others are just sites that rank high on Alexa's list of the most popular sites in the Philippines and sounded like social sites to me. I haven't tested these sites out, but I suspect that if you try them out you may find some useful new ones.

Facebook, #1.

BongaCams.com, #35, sex cams.

Likes.com, #85, seems to be a social network.

Flirchi, #100, seems to be a social network.

Tagged, #113.

Filipino Cupid, #206.

DateInAsia.com, #273.

CraigsList: #332.

Person.com, #499, webcam chat and dating.

AsianDating.com, #549.

Blossoms.com, #881, AKA Cherry Blossoms.

PinaLove.com, #1000.

Christian Filipina, #1580.

Cebuanas.com, #2399, Cebu-focused.

InternationalCupid.com, #3107.

Filipino Kisses, #5853.

FindLoveAsia.com, #7557.

Pip Jaeger

12-19-14, 04:20

I have been kicked off DIA for straight forward honest language.

I can offer $ for sex on Tagged or Hi5 (free sites).

Does anyone have experience with Filipino Cupid or othe paid sites?Welcome to the club, lots written about guys getting kicked off even for saying something like "No Ladyboys Please". As I (and others) have reported recently, FC has been a good resource. As with any site, careful prescreening is always a good idea.

I have paid for FC in the past with no issues. You can just take out a thirty day subscription. They do not do auto renewals.Last time I renewed in September I recall there was a check box for "auto renew"; you need to make sure it's unchecked. I can't remember, but I think I used PayPal to renew, so obviously I too had no issues with payment or security.

Member #4643

12-19-14, 05:07

Welcome to the club, lots written about guys getting kicked off even for saying something like "No Ladyboys Please". As I (and others) have reported recently, FC has been a good resource.I don't quite understand. Have you or anyone else been kicked off FC? FC is a paid site and DIA is free. I would expect FC to be less difficult.

Bubba999

12-19-14, 05:11

After being banned on an account I had been using back home I tried to create a new one while in Philippines. New email, new IP, new cell number but I was banned again as soon as I typed the word "adventurous" while creating a profile. Doubt that is what triggered it and assume that they have recorded MAC addresses? Anyhow time to give up on that I think. Enjoyed the opportunities it provided. !

Hutsori

12-19-14, 06:36

Last time I renewed in September I recall there was a check box for "auto renew"; you need to make sure it's unchecked. I can't remember, but I think I used PayPal to renew, so obviously I too had no issues with payment or security.You're right about that auto-renewal checkbox. Yes, FC accepts paypal, but there are a couple of things to consider when using it. Firstly, it's only slightly more secure, by which I mean discreet, than a credit card. If one is concerned about his partner looking at the statements there will be a paypal rather than a cupid media entry. Will this spark her curiosity and a question? Secondly, and more importantly, using paypal in the Philippines (note: in the Philippines) can prove a challenge. My account (created in 1999 and used regularly) was suspended in 2013 the second time I used it from my computer in the PI. (The first time I did a transaction here it processed successfully.) Speaking to a paypal CSR on the phone I was told paypal has experienced too much fraud from the PI so this unilateral action was taken to protect me. (At the very same moment the CSR told me that my doctor rushed in my condo and unrolled a condom on my cock. I was feeling very protected. And it bothered me.) Other than telling me to create a new paypal Philippines account there was no way paypal would assist me unlocking my existing account until I returned to the country where I had created it. I offered to send scans of my IDs, passport, etc., but paypal wouldn't budge. Maddening. If one intends to use paypal I recommend doing so before you leave home.

BTW, unlike a bank that you can (and ought to) notify before leaving for the Philippines, paypal doesn't allow for the hey-I'm-going-to-be-in-the-PI-so-allow-me-to-use-it-there advance notice. I guess the risk takers who founded the company have been replaced by dour stick-in-the-muds who can't imagine extending paypal's reach (perhaps at an added charge levied to the customer). Oh well. Those gaps and seams in the marketplace eventually get filled by new players.

Aibolit

12-24-14, 20:31

Sammon

12-24-14, 23:00

I have been kicked off DIA for straight forward honest language.

I can offer $ for sex on Tagged or Hi5 (free sites).

Does anyone have experience with Filipino Cupid or othe paid sites?It is very easy to get in again if you are kicked out of DIA.

Just make another profile. You need to have a different phone number. It does not matter whose phone number it is as long as you can access the activation code they send by text. Put in the code and voila you got a new account. Yes you need to put another pic.

It looks like certain girls who you pissed off can complain to DIA and they will close the account. Most often they complain that you asked for sex.

DIA has gotten stricter. Best thing to do is ask the girl for ym or Skype with you. There you can talk anything.

Kabul Guy

12-25-14, 00:29

.....Other than telling me to create a new paypal Philippines account there was no way paypal would assist me unlocking my existing account until I returned to the country where I had created it. .....If you use a VPN you can appear to be from any country you want. For all my on line transactions I use my VPN connection and look like I am in my home country.

I use Witopia but there are lots of companies out there with similar prices and services.

Also provides secure communications from your laptop to the network so no worries about anyone stealing passwords from the either.

George03

12-25-14, 01:01

Hello all,

I wonder if anyone has succeeded to connect to girls on Filipino Cupid as a BASIC (non paid) member? For privacy reasons, I am precluded from using credit card on this kind of sites, so I am forced to use only free options. Yet, I haven't figured out, if there is a way to generate any traction on FC this way. Will be grateful for any pointers from the veterans of FC.

Thanks! A.Maybe try a pre paid card where you don't have to give info? Not an issue for me, but I don't think you will have luck with a free account. I do notice some girls putting there email on the free account, I don't know if this is against FC rules or not.

Hutsori

12-25-14, 04:28

Hello all,

I wonder if anyone has succeeded to connect to girls on Filipino Cupid as a BASIC (non paid) member? For privacy reasons, I am precluded from using credit card on this kind of sites, so I am forced to use only free options. Yet, I haven't figured out, if there is a way to generate any traction on FC this way. Will be grateful for any pointers from the veterans of FC.

Thanks! A.There is a way to circumvent this by inserting your contact info, such as skype or ym IDs, into your profile. But you'll have to be clever about it. Every edit to you profile is reviewed.

Aibolit

12-25-14, 16:15

Thank you George (and Hutsori) for the advice. Unfortunately, prepaid card doesn't seem to work internationally. And putting my Skype contact for everyone out there does not leave me in control, which is not optimal. Will keep relying on DIA, until better solution comes along.

Maybe try a pre paid card where you don't have to give info? Not an issue for me, but I don't think you will have luck with a free account. I do notice some girls putting there email on the free account, I don't know if this is against FC rules or not.

Hutsori

12-25-14, 16:48

Thank you George (and Hutsori) for the advice. Unfortunately, prepaid card doesn't seem to work internationally. And putting my Skype contact for everyone out there does not leave me in control, which is not optimal. Will keep relying on DIA, until better solution comes along.You don't have to use your skype. It could be your yahoo messenger, viber, wechat, whatever. Easy enough to set up a toss-away account.

Mr Enternational

12-27-14, 02:32

So much for your method of seeing the girl on cam first:

http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-30544685

Ikksman

12-28-14, 08:09

So much for your method of seeing the girl on cam first:

http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-30544685My assessment of the quality of your posts just went down to rock-bottom (actually it was not very high before)!

Ikksman
No need to expose fools, they expose themselves

Member #4566

12-28-14, 09:51

I have used DIA and I have met several girls. It seems to be a workable tool for meeting girls. I would however advise caution tempered by common sense. Just today I was asked to send money to someone sight unseen. I explained politely that I would be foolish to send money to anyone based on pics and a few chats. I could be chatting to a male who has posted pics of some girl he knows. The pics were nice and I did not close the door to future chatting. I also see the possibility of a sting from a minor girl or a falsified claim of daterape emerging from a DIA encounter.

Anyway, I have tried Tagged and I am just not real patient to learn, largely through trial and error, how it works. Has anyone published a "Tagged For Dummies?

Hutsori

12-28-14, 11:15

Has anyone published a "Tagged For Dummies?Ignore the "Pets" game. Use "Browse" just like any other site to view profiles. Set your filter for age and location. View the results. You'll also see who is presently online. Use "Meet Me" to define age and location of the girls you want to meet. Play "Meet Me" to view a picture of a girl. You can select Yes or No and also view her profile unless she has decided to keep in private, in which case you send a friend request. In her profile she may have more photos. If she has already selected you you'll be informed of a match immediately. If she selects you later you'll get a message of the match in "Alerts" and also Meet Me's matches tab. Use "Messages" just like any other site.

Member #4387

12-28-14, 12:39

Huts pretty much says it all. But be adviced the sites layout a bit chaotic so take a few to settle and get yourself accustomed to the sites. Still after dealing with also tagged for 10+ years I get sometimes confused (well I don't know how long Tagged existed but I used it early early in my monger years).

Pour yourself a whiskey, browse through the Tagged and go through settings and you'll be fine.

Aibolit

12-28-14, 20:10

Good day to all!

As much as report about completed escapades are useful, I found that the preparation for the said escapades is often the most laborious part. Consequently, here is a short report on my preparation to the Manila / Makati trip:

As I'm obsessed with discretion, I don't use sites that require me paying with my credit card. Sadly, this leaves me with DIA, Badoo, Skype and FB. Badoo so far didn't prove itself, so almost all the leads came from DIA. I'm very picky with who makes it into a shortlist, as I require an optical f*ck. I also like GF a lot, but good optics must be had: young, very slim, pretty fresh face, bubbly personality. After chatting up dozens of DIA chicks for 2 weeks, I ended up with 15 Skype contacts, of which I managed to talk only to 3 and found 2 of them doable. I hope that in 2 more weeks I will expand the Skype sessions flow, resulting with 3-4 additional options. I am not sure if they'll agree to what I plan for them, as so far we didn't discuss the particularities of our "date", but I have a feeling that at least one of the 2 cuties that I spoke so far will come to my quarters and have fun with me on the first date. Hope this gives the ISG readers the statistical funnel that is involved.

Then, I realized that I can also go to Russia for a fraction of the price of flying to Manila. I like Russian girls a lot and speak a bit of their language. I wonder, if the ISG members who have the experience of both Manila and St. Petersburg would vote for one over the other in terms of the combination of looks, GF and price. More precisely, I ask myself, whether same method of lining up first-date f*ckers will work as well in Russia as it seems to work in Manila.

Any feedback welcome! A.

Mr Enternational

12-28-14, 20:17

My assessment of the quality of your posts just went down to rock-bottom (actually it was not very high before)!

Ikksman
No need to expose fools, they expose themselvesAnd just who the fuck are you to be assessing anybody on these boards? Nobody is here for your approval or to win a Pulitzer Prize.

Slippery

12-28-14, 23:12

Pip Jaeger

12-29-14, 01:15

For a few days now, when I try to login to DIA, I get a security check from CrowdFare.com that wants me to enter a captcha. I enter and yet another check and another check and another check come up. I just can't log into DIA. Any advice?First determine if it's an issue with your machine or the site; try logging on from another device, even a smart phone and preferably with a different IP address, such as from a coffee shop.

If the above works then an it's probably an issue with your machine, run a virus scan and also try clearing out your cache and cookies.

A good as well as free utility for cleaning out your machine is called "CCleaner" (Crap Cleaner). First time you use it could take a while, but subsequent cleaning is usually pretty quick.

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

Slippery

12-29-14, 14:25

Happens with both of my laptops and also with two different IP addresses.

Ceegee

12-30-14, 03:13

So much for your method of seeing the girl on cam first:

http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-30544685The risk here is greatly reduced by using fake everything. Fake name, fake country of origin etc. Disposable Skype account, nothing connected to real social media accounts. Hell you can even wear a hat and glasses at first if you must. If you suspect something, ask her to write down a random word on a piece of paper and show it to the camera.

I would still rather cam than send real pictures of myself. I have found pictures of blokes that look similar enough to me that the girls never notice. I use them on dating sites and the girls have never noticed or commented.

Col Law

12-30-14, 03:59

Happens with both of my laptops and also with two different IP addresses.Yes I'm the same, was using my bro LTE when the problem started, switched to a proper router problem went not sure if that was the reason or not, but it is happening this morning also.

Pantot

12-30-14, 05:15

I honestly don't get the fear of showing your face in cam.

Sure if you are someone famous Brad Pitt or whatever don't do it. But an average Joe? Who cares? You are not that special or unique.

As far as revealing personal info as what country or region you are from just fudge it and give a place slightly different. These girls are so geographically challenged that Texas vs California or Ontario v BC is indistinguishable.

You can tell immediately from their chats if they are actual real pinay. Their chat language patterns are universal and easily identifiable.

I am not married or famous so I don't give a shit where any girl would threaten to post whatever wherever but even if I was was married who cares? There is a anonymity in the herd of foreigner mongers, don't be "scurred" by some powerless threaten, most likely a gay, to expose you to whoever. They have zero ability to do it.

D Cups

12-30-14, 12:19

So much for your method of seeing the girl on cam first:

http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-30544685Very interesting. Thanks, E. The scammers tried to do this to a buddy of mine but he outsmarted them saying "go ahead, I'm divorced and work for myself so no one cares about this" but I could see where it turns into a nightmare for others.

WestCoast1

12-30-14, 17:46

I honestly don't get the fear of showing your face in cam.

Sure if you are someone famous Brad Pitt or whatever don't do it. But an average Joe? Who cares? You are not that special or unique.For certain people, that's not possible. They really are that special or unique in their community.

You can tell immediately from their chats if they are actual real pinay. Their chat language patterns are universal and easily identifiable.Correct, one can tell from the chat pattern if they are filipino (not necessarily guy or girl), but you don't necessarily know if the person you are camming with is the same person that you are YM-ing with. From experience I can tell you that its easy for anyone (say, bakla, or myself) to make a video loop of a pretty pinay on cam, then play that video loop to your cam in chat. You wil think you are chatting a pretty pinay, but the person who is actually typing could be anyone else. Another trick they use is to sit a pretty pinay directly in front of the computer on cam, who appears to be typing to you. But another person, just off cam to the left or right, actually has the keyboard and is typing. The girl in front of the cam might not speak any english, she is just pretending to type messages to you. If you think you're smart, and ask her to wave to you, or draw you a picture or write a message to you on a piece of paper (I love you Bob!) She will do it, because the guy sitting next to her and doing the typing will tell her to do it.

I am not married or famous so I don't give a shit where any girl would threaten to post whatever wherever but even if I was was married who cares? There is a anonymity in the herd of foreigner mongers, don't be "scurred" by some powerless threaten, most likely a gay, to expose you to whoever. They have zero ability to do it.That's nice for you, but it does not help that part of the community who is married, or famous in their community. Or the part that is not married or famous, but don't want their image posted online. Privacy is paramount to many mongers, and keeping their pic / image from the internet is part of that.

There is a growing naked-cam scam going on in phils. A pretty pinay gets naked, and convinces a foreigner to get naked on cam and masturbate with her. She is recording his cam. Once the session is done, she blackmails him (well, her nandler with the I'd does it), telling him she will post screen-shots or the actual video on the internet if he doesn't send her, say, $300 every month. Please check with the scam websites to read the stories of gents who fell for this. I think its very easy for you or me to say: Well, its his fault, he should have done *this* or *that* thing to check the girl's veracity (which don't always work), or he should not have done that at all. But, once the damage is done, its done. Even unmarried mongers don't want that kind of thing online; it can be devastating in a number of ways.

Member #4351

12-30-14, 18:09

The girl in front of the cam might not speak any english, she is just pretending to type messages to you. If you think you're smart, and ask her to wave to you, or draw you a picture or write a message to you on a piece of paper (I love you Bob!) She will do it, because the guy sitting next to her and doing the typing will tell her to do it.I just ask for the cell number and call her when she is on webcam.

Pantot

12-31-14, 02:02

For certain people, that's not possible. They really are that special or unique in their community.That was my original cavaet, with the Brad Pitt reference, that if you are famous its obviously a whole different ballgame. I was speaking to the other 99.99%. Some here think they are famous but they really are not that's my point there is a great anonymity in the herd of humanity that is 'foreigners' to them.

I have dealt with virtually every other instance you cited except the blackmail. If the girl is not the typist its pretty obvious her eyes don't go down to meet the keyboard. These girls I have encountered dozens of times. If I am very interested in the girl I will usually call her by the end of the conversation just to make sure she has 2 XX chromosomes. I'm with David33 on that one. If she has zero access to any cellphone its a major red flag and besides with no Cp you will have one hell of a time actually hooking up once your in country.

There is a growing naked-cam scam going on in phils. A pretty pinay gets naked, and convinces a foreigner to get naked on cam and masturbate with her. She is recording his cam. Once the session is done, she blackmails him (well, her nandler with the I'd does it), telling him she will post screen-shots or the actual video on the internet if he doesn't send her, say, $300 every month. Please check with the scam websites to read the stories of gents who fell for this. I think its very easy for you or me to say: Well, its his fault, he should have done *this* or *that* thing to check the girl's veracity (which don't always work), or he should not have done that at all. But, once the damage is done, its done. Even unmarried mongers don't want that kind of thing online; it can be devastating in a number of ways.The idea they will 'post it online' is interesting. Where exactly? If you are a monger and crazy enough to have an actual facebook (I am not saying you are WC) with your real name and real pics then that's a big mistake to begin with. I suppose there could be some risks in that case. Besides that I just don't know where they could 'post it' and do you damage. Rule #1 never send a girl a pic with your junk and your face in the same image that seems sort of obvious. Just like for every 5,000 PG posts 'brave' enough to post pics of the poor Pinay with her face and gaping twat attached there may be 1 who posted pics of himself even his face only.

What I am asking is give me a scenario where a non famous relatively discreet average monger can actually be blackmailed other than by his own paranoia? What would be the online nexus of the two worlds the Filipino wannabe blackmailer could actually reach and 'post it'. Famous to them and us is a tiny fraction of actually famous. This is in reverse sort of the central organizing principle of the porn industry, the actual anonymity factor of humanity. I am assuming of course one would not give their real name and identifying personal online details to someone they barely know in a quick mutual wank session.

I am not trying to be a dick or argumentative for the sake of arguing. I read MrInternational's link to the scam, was amused and waited to respond until after a few posters agreed it could be dangerous. For who and how? Assume the 'girl' doesn't know your real name, actual address, employer, your real Facebook with your full name pics and links to everybody in your church. And you haven't bragged to her about your being the actual Canadian ambassador to Thailand or an a Seahawks NFL player. Two people who in reality are so far off their radar screen they could never deduce it on their own based on your face and dick alone, and therefore have no idea how to reach the target audience to shame you.

Give me a for instance anybody.

Thanks

LuvAsianTang

12-31-14, 06:39

That was my original cavaet, with the Brad Pitt reference, that if you are famous its obviously a whole different ballgame. I was speaking to the other 99.99%. Some here think they are famous but they really are not that's my point there is a great anonymity in the herd of humanity that is 'foreigners' to them.

I have dealt with virtually every other instance you cited except the blackmail. If the girl is not the typist its pretty obvious her eyes don't go down to meet the keyboard. These girls I have encountered dozens of times. If I am very interested in the girl I will usually call her by the end of the conversation just to make sure she has 2 XX chromosomes. I'm with David33 on that one. If she has zero access to any cellphone its a major red flag and besides with no Cp you will have one hell of a time actually hooking up once your in country.

The idea they will 'post it online' is interesting. Where exactly? If you are a monger and crazy enough to have an actual facebook (I am not saying you are WC) with your real name and real pics then that's a big mistake to begin with. I suppose there could be some risks in that case. Besides that I just don't know where they could 'post it' and do you damage. Rule #1 never send a girl a pic with your junk and your face in the same image that seems sort of obvious. Just like for every 5,000 PG posts 'brave' enough to post pics of the poor Pinay with her face and gaping twat attached there may be 1 who posted pics of himself even his face only.

What I am asking is give me a scenario where a non famous relatively discreet average monger can actually be blackmailed other than by his own paranoia? What would be the online nexus of the two worlds the Filipino wannabe blackmailer could actually reach and 'post it'. Famous to them and us is a tiny fraction of actually famous. This is in reverse sort of the central organizing principle of the porn industry, the actual anonymity factor of humanity. I am assuming of course one would not give their real name and identifying personal online details to someone they barely know in a quick mutual wank session.

I am not trying to be a dick or argumentative for the sake of arguing. I read MrInternational's link to the scam, was amused and waited to respond until after a few posters agreed it could be dangerous. For who and how? Assume the 'girl' doesn't know your real name, actual address, employer, your real Facebook with your full name pics and links to everybody in your church. And you haven't bragged to her about your being the actual Canadian ambassador to Thailand or an a Seahawks NFL player. Two people who in reality are so far off their radar screen they could never deduce it on their own based on your face and dick alone, and therefore have no idea how to reach the target audience to shame you.

Give me a for instance anybody.

ThanksI personally don't care if my naked body gets put on the internet, I pity the poor fool who looks LOL. Hell I'll even open my hairy white ass so they can get a good look at the chocolate center where they can place their lips and start smooching LOL. If any one I know sees it they would just say " oh look martha LAT is doing something strange again, what's on TV, pass the potato chips.

Happy pooning, LAT.

Hutsori

12-31-14, 07:16

Assume the 'girl' doesn't know your real name, actual address, employer, your real Facebook with your full name pics and links to everybody in your church... they could never deduce it on their own based on your face and dick alone, and therefore have no idea how to reach the target audience to shame you.
Echoes my feeling and utter lack of concern about this. Seems to me those who get stung were too forthcoming with their personal deets or a hold a way overblown sense of themselves.

I was once punked by someone but not for cash. I've exchanged nude photos with girls. One morning at about 4 am I received a phone call from a Filipino bloke who wanted to visit my place for the hot man-to-man action I was seeking. "P*ss off," and I hung up. A few minutes later another call from a different bloke. Several SMS messages arrive. Well, something's up. Turned off my phone and went to back to sleep. In the morning I found many more SMS messages and my toss-away email inbox was filled with messages from Filipino guys. Lucky me. I sorted it all out. Someone, I assume a girl I met before, posted my photos and contact info including my address on Craig's List and a few gay hook up sites. I flagged "my" m2m personal on CL, and that was soon deleted, and couldn't do anything about "my" personals on the gay sites. Then I bought a new SIM. I probably could have waited it out and kept my number, but the calls and texts were getting annoying. The outcome: no person in my life has ever said to me, "Hey, I saw your photos on themanhole.com. "

WestCoast1

12-31-14, 07:31

I am assuming of course one would not give their real name and identifying personal online details to someone they barely know in a quick mutual wank session.If you've already sent the cam girl some WU money for a cam show, she has some of your personal details (ie, your name). If she records you wanking off with her after that, and you don't want that posted online (your married, or you're single and you don't want your family / kids / employer seeing that), you pay up.

Give me a for instance anybody.

ThanksStart here. Dragonladies dot Org is one of the larger anti-scamming websites / BBS on the 'net regarding pinay scammers. There is a whole thread on blackmail:

http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewforum.php?f=108 and http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=4521.

Those who post often do it on youtube, which quickly takes it down.

Red Kilt

12-31-14, 10:57

Give me a for instance anybody.
Most guys on ISG are most likely not the guys who get caught in these scams, but it is amazing how many other naive souls put everything out in cyberspace when they are seeking relationships and have no idea of the consequences. They feel that they have to be honest and use all of their real details in order to 'catch' another honest man / woman.

Every day there are stories in the press about men & women who have been conned into sending huge sums of money to chat friends etc as one simple example. These are the people who get scammed and blackmailed so easily. Why else do the Nigerian scammers still persist years after that scam was exposed?

I find it difficult to imagine how it could possibly happen but I know it does. My filipino friend in the NBI assures me it happens regularly.

KongKing

12-31-14, 11:48

The DateinAsia (DIA) dating website has been making a few changes lately. For instance, in the profile information the last line of the profile did say "Member Since (and the date of joining DIA)". In the last 24 hours this has been removed. I have mixed feelings about this. I am pleased my joining date, as a long in the tooth DIA member, has been removed. But I am very keen to see how long the Filipina has been a member. The newer the better! So I emailed DIA today and asked: is this a planned change or a website glitch? And DIA promptly replied "It's a planned move, but we are not certain whether if it will stay this way or not. The problem is that this feature is both one of the most hated AND one of the most loved. ".

Another change, for the better, has been DIA's consolidation of city / town names where there are alternatives. For instance, using the Search function, you needed to do separate searches for Cagayan de Oro, Cagayan de Oro City, CDO, CDOC, City of Golden Friendship, etc. Now one Search consolidates these aliases.

KongKing.

P.S. : In the process of posting this I see DIA has just brought back the "Member Since" option. Perhaps feedback, like mine to DIA, has brought about a change of heart.

HaPPy NeW YeaR!

WestCoast1

12-31-14, 18:13

I just ask for the cell number and call her when she is on webcam.What cell phone number?

You see it, right? She will tell you she has no cell phone; she had to pawn it. There is an answer on their part for most everything you can think of. However, if you finally outwit the operators on the other end of the line, they just go offline, and look for other rubes. If you won't get naked with her, many others will. You can ask her to do any of many things: wave to you, write you a note on paper and hold it up, call you, answer a vid call, etc. If its a video loop, then she won't look up from the keyboard. If she's "live", then she will do those things for you, but only to a point.

There is a *vast* online pay-per-view naked cam system going on worldwide: both cam sites, and also private operators (especially SE Asia -- and also in western countries) that accept WU / Xoom. There are many people, viewers / purchasers (dare I say hundreds of thousands, or more?) who routinely get naked on cam with those girls (or guys, or couples). That's the point, she's looking to "make you happy", a happy ending: few people watch a cam show without the intent to masturbate while the girl is doing the same. The number of men who have made this their primary sexual activity is rather large, and a good chunk of them stupidly expose themselves to risk by turning their cam on. Even young men, gwapo and healthy, will sit in their mother's basement and do this (as opposed to actively dating). Many of the girls (not cam-site girls) are actively working DIA and other dating sites. This is her (or her handler's) sole purpose for her dating site account.

Pantot

01-01-15, 04:17

If you've already sent the cam girl some WU money for a cam show, she has some of your personal details (ie, your name). If she records you wanking off with her after that, and you don't want that posted online (your married, or you're single and you don't want your family / kids / employer seeing that), you pay up.OK fair enough. So she knows your name and country. What does she do with that info? Again, where does she post the incriminating image? Videos especially are almost impossible to disseminate to a potential audience which can be shocked! And ruin you.

Start here. Dragonladies dot Org is one of the larger anti-scamming websites / BBS on the 'net regarding pinay scammers. There is a whole thread on blackmail:

http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewforum.php?f=108 and http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=4521.

Those who post often do it on youtube, which quickly takes it down.Dragonladies? To quote them "Welcome to Dragonladies dot Org! We focus on internet romance scams, from Asia. " Its trying to protect ultra naive men from predatory Asian ladies.

Where the cheapcharlieporiegner dot Org equivalent? And even if there was whose wife, boss, clients, kid, neighbor etc is going to be exposed to it?

Its like fellow discreet pot smokers-- if your client / boss actually miraculously stumbled on it, his sympathy and respect for you would increase as obviously he shares your proclivities.

We as experienced Phils mongers should be pointing out the folly of the scams efficacy in implementation of the retribution by the blackmailer in reality and the simple steps to avoid it to the noobs rather than fuel the paranoia. IMO.

The benefits of showing your face, dick etc in cam upon initially meeting an online pinay and getting her to do the same in return, along with a quick CP call, to assure she is who she says she is massively outweighs the remote possible pitfalls in saving wasted time and possibly even money. I like fit 18 to 25 yo pinays with no kids and my guess is in today's cyber world 50% of those claiming to be that are something quite different and I have zero time to waste with them. In fact I loathe those creatures and patience with them decreases each year so I refuse to grant legitimacy to power they do not possess.

I still enjoy finding the fresh blood online and am pretty addicted to it.

Member #4643

01-01-15, 18:54

I am going to sign up for one month. I have a lot of names and phone numbers from DIA, but I am told that many of the DIA girls do not answer their phones (that certainly was the case for me in Cebu last year, but then again, I arrived the day of the typhoon).

By the way, I have discovered that there are a lot of DIA girls who are willing to visit me "at my hotel", but the moment one mentions "naughty fun", they suggest we meet in a public place. I think that in communicating with the girls, it sometimes is worth giving them plausible deniability. In my three trips to the Phils, there never ever was a girl who came to my hotel room who didn't have sex with me. There is really no need to get the girl to state that she will sleep with you; getting her to your room is enough (IMO).

Here is the question: is it worth being a Platinum member? It only costs $10 more, but it looks like the only real advantage for me is that one can use FC for cam.

Slippery

01-01-15, 22:32

I don't think so Forest, as I doubt whether the girls would have that reciprocal capability. Also, watch out for the automatic recurring membership. Uncheck the box.

Roll Aides

01-02-15, 16:13

Most guys on ISG are most likely not the guys who get caught in these scams, but it is amazing how many other naive souls put everything out in cyberspace when they are seeking relationships and have no idea of the consequences. They feel that they have to be honest and use all of their real details in order to 'catch' another honest man / woman.

Every day there are stories in the press about men & women who have been conned into sending huge sums of money to chat friends etc as one simple example. These are the people who get scammed and blackmailed so easily. Why else do the Nigerian scammers still persist years after that scam was exposed?

I find it difficult to imagine how it could possibly happen but I know it does. My filipino friend in the NBI assures me it happens regularly.It can go the other way, too. I have met guys here, usually older, who have NO IDEA what their pinay playthings are up to online in the most publicly obvious manner. As in, the filipina has facebook and dateinasia profiles in her own real name name, facebook plastered with pics of her and other guys, and the clueless expat intending to wed her has been skyping her for a year and a half and now coming to visit her somehow thinking he is the one and only. Shit like this can be solved with a google search. Maybe they want to believe. It just boggles the mind.

The point being simply that Filipinas can also be extremely lax concerning cyber identity obfuscation, in fact quite often willingly giving out personal data that will easily reveal an online trail, or simply not having the common sense to separate their real social media accounts from their, um, romantic activities. It can work both ways. Seen many dumbasses, on both sides of the equation.

WestCoast1

01-02-15, 17:44

It can go the other way, too. I have met guys here, usually older, who have NO IDEA what their pinay playthings are up to online in the most publicly obvious manner. As in, the filipina has facebook and dateinasia profiles in her own real name name, facebook plastered with pics of her and other guys, and the clueless expat intending to wed her has been skyping her for a year and a half and now coming to visit her somehow thinking he is the one and only. Shit like this can be solved with a google search. Maybe they want to believe. It just boggles the mind.

The point being simply that Filipinas can also be extremely lax concerning cyber identity obfuscation, in fact quite often willingly giving out personal data that will easily reveal an online trail, or simply not having the common sense to separate their real social media accounts from their, um, romantic activities. It can work both ways. Seen many dumbasses, on both sides of the equation.Yes, same. A few years ago on the Manila thread I wrote about meeting a girl whom I'd chatted with online for several years (Antipolo). She brought her mom, aunt, and younger sis to meet in Ortigas. She ended up staying about 5 nights. She had a Friendster account (remember Friendster? When I left, she had a public gallery of pics of our time together (many of the pics were from my point / shoot cam, which watermarks the pics with the date stamp). 3 weeks later, out of the blue, she asked for money for some family emergency around noon (phils time) on a Saturday. To which I said 'no'. The next day on her YM avatar was a picture of her in a wedding dress, sitting on a (much older) kano's lap (he in a tuxedo). The message on her YM: "I'm married!" About 6 hours after asking me for money while she was on cam (in her street clothes), she got gussied up and married. Yes, she completely forgot to tell me in chat that her foreigner fiance was getting his haircut at that moment. A day or so later on her Friendster another public picture gallery went up, with pics from the wedding (she never bothered to remove the gallery with my pics). Its bad enough behavior that she asked foreigner #1 for money, then married foreigner #2 a few hours later.

But for his part, a bit of simple internet snooping would have found her social media accounts. For those of you not aware, there are sites out there that search for other people's information. Google is always free. Spokeo is a paid site ($15 for 3 months, or about $50/ year), but also reveals a lot about someone if you have: an email address, or their phone number, etc.

For the snooper: I think Huts mentioned it before, and it bears repeating. Many pinay have multiple FB accounts. One is for her family / close friends to see. The other is for visiting cano to see. If you want to see if she has an extra FB account, try typing her first and last name into the FB search box backwards. Instead of typing Analyn Toredo, type: nylana oderot, and see if anything pops up. You might be surprised at what shows up on her nylana oderot FB account (recent pics of her, hanging all over her local pinoy BF). Thanks Huts, its been invaluable. For two years or so I've posted several girls in the PG from the central Luzon province. They bus to Manila for me, or on occasion I bus there. There are more than two girls (all friends who went thru school together), and they rotate to keep fresh bodies in my bed. One is a stunner, and I've asked her in person and online why she doesn't have a local BF (always denies it). Recently I used Huts trick to find her other FB account. In some pics she's sitting in a young pinoy's lap, looking lovey / dovey. While chatting her friend recently, the friend herself gave it up: "No. That not her BF! That is her gay brother! The guy standing behind the brother is her BF. Her heart beat to him". Great!

Most guys on ISG are most likely not the guys who get caught in these scams, but it is amazing how many other naive souls put everything out in cyberspace when they are seeking relationships and have no idea of the consequences. They feel that they have to be honest and use all of their real details in order to 'catch' another honest man / woman.

Every day there are stories in the press about men & women who have been conned into sending huge sums of money to chat friends etc as one simple example. These are the people who get scammed and blackmailed so easily. Why else do the Nigerian scammers still persist years after that scam was exposed?

I find it difficult to imagine how it could possibly happen but I know it does. My filipino friend in the NBI assures me it happens regularly.An apology to the membership. My previous posts regarding blackmailing / scamming were not necessarily aimed at any of you. You are experienced gents, and many of us are not afraid of exposure. However, while that % might be high here on ISG, there are those who cannot risk such exposure. They lead double lives (I think there is a perception, if a layman was reading the posts here, that we are all single / divorced world-travelers looking for hookers; but many of our rank don't fall into that category). Outside of ISG, many folks lead the double-life also, and cannot risk exposure. Its the fear of being exposed that causes them to give in to blackmailers.

LuvAsianTang

01-02-15, 18:21

I don't think so Forest, as I doubt whether the girls would have that reciprocal capability. Also, watch out for the automatic recurring membership. Uncheck the box.Although, the cam option will help to weed out the pros' as most pros are now using their expensive note books and smart phones to go on cam. A non pro usually uses a piece of shit (pos) phone with no cam, same with the semi pros "working" their way through college. Where as a pro is a sure thing she will most likely cost 50% more and be less GFE. I have had my best sexperiences with semi pros and non pros, using pos phones.

Just my 20 pesos. LAT.

Pantot

01-03-15, 03:36

Although, the cam option will help to weed out the pros' as most pros are now using their expensive note books and smart phones to go on cam. A non pro usually uses a piece of shit (pos) phone with no cam, same with the semi pros "working" their way through college. Where as a pro is a sure thing she will most likely cost 50% more and be less GFE. Maybe I have a different definition of pro than you cite. For me the real professional girls are the cheapest of all. For me a pro is one working / worked in a bar and her pussy as a commodity has been reduced to the lowest value of all pinay. After all she's used to fucking complete strangers with no other investment in them all night for only 1000 to 2000 pesos. All my pinay 'GF' who are ex pro bar workers who I once barfined don't really ask for money and if they do its not much and usually take 'no' pretty well. They are just happy with a guy who treats them with respect and actually maintains contact with them.

In my experience the total non pros are the most expensive of all to try to maintain. They think thier virgin or almost virgin heheh pussy is worth its volume in gold. The real pro has other sources of income and visitors etc, so your contribution is just a drop in the bucket. With the real non pro if you are the possibly the only (or maybe maybe 1 of a few) non pinoy source of 'help' they can get expensive in between actual visits.

If by pro you mean scammers always scheming and begging for money I have no time for them. They just aren't worth it.

I have had my best sexperiences with semi pros and non pros, using pos phones.

Just my 20 pesos. LAT.Me too. They are the best. Especially the ones who live far from Angeles or Manila. They are the least mentally corrupted and westernized. And Filipinas are very adaptive and can be trained quickly to do it how you like it. Whatever it may be.

Wicked Roger

01-03-15, 11:15

But for his part, a bit of simple internet snooping would have found her social media accounts. For those of you not aware, there are sites out there that search for other people's information. Google is always free. Spokeo is a paid site ($15 for 3 months, or about $50/ year), but also reveals a lot about someone if you have: an email address, or their phone number, etc.

For the snooper: I think Huts mentioned it before, and it bears repeating. Many pinay have multiple FB accounts. Am helping a good friend at present. He is paying school / uni fees and accommodation plus an allowance. But last year I saw a FB profile with a Pinky. Immediately te profile (his and hers) disappeared but not before I got all the screen shoots I needed for him, said he hacked it etc. All FB pages had gone but.

Now I find more another profile and she has had a baby with same guy and the baby has a FB page (with the proud parents on the page.

How stupid can you get?

My mate is with one of her friends at the moment shagging her and he also helps this friend so he will now get the truth as the other friend (who I also shag at times as she very good in the sack) was pictured at the wedding and said was her baby LOL when clearly was not. The threat of no help forever will get the truth.

So pays to be diligent gents as this girl been pushing for more allowance and allowance on time last 3 months (ie after the baby was born).

Now he will call the school and speak to the Registrar (another trick you can do) and they generally confirm if the cutie is enrolled etc.

So plenty of thing you can do easily and cheaply.

Fredje1961

01-09-15, 18:32

Anyone ever heard about the Pinay Walks website? What is it about?

Red Kilt

01-10-15, 04:41

Anyone ever heard about the Pinay Walks website? What is it about?It is a quaint expression used by a group of girls in the Philippines.

"Going for a walk" means going out to look for a guy for sex to help pay a bill.

It is not in common use and used more by the educated classes.

It is a euphemism that doesn't sound as crass as "going out to get laid" or " I need to get cash to pay a bill so I will find a guy for sex".

Pinay Walks is a variation on Craig's List

NTambay

01-10-15, 06:41

Anyone ever heard about the Pinay Walks website? What is it about?There are barely any women on the site. Or I am not searching the correct way.

IMHO the prices they quote are in the higher range.

Sammon

01-10-15, 17:25

Recently I have seen many really good looking girls (at least in Pics) posting in DIA. They all say they are looking for men of any age for friendship-blah-blah.

I talked to couple and they said they work in KTV before. I was just wondering if anybody met these girls? Just want to make sure these girls are not pimped by somebody since their KTV days seems to be over although they are still young. It could be an escort agency asking them to post in DIA to get customers.

Any info is appreciated.

Hutsori

01-10-15, 23:31

Anyone ever heard about the Pinay Walks website? What is it about?"Walk (s)" is a Filipino euphemism used in the escort biz. It means pay-for-play sex.

Red Kilt

01-11-15, 05:34

"Walk (s)" is a Filipino euphemism used in the escort biz. It means pay-for-play sex.Like I said in Post 8130 yesterday.

Capt Ajax

01-12-15, 02:39

I read this article and knew immediately it was written by a Black American woman. Most of them think this way.

I don't believe in 5 minutes relationship in the internet.

LOVE :I don't want a relationship unless you can prove to me that not all men are DOGS. Don't play with a gurl who knows the game bettuh.

I fall in luv easily & I fall out of luv just the same. One day yer IN, next day yer OUT. I forgive but I don't give second chances. A guy's got to know how to COMMIT, otherwise, I aint stickin around. Am tired of games so I've quit playin.

No am not yer world; no my beauty doesn't make yer day; no mah laughter ain't music. So quit the bullsh*t.

No yer words don't mean shit to me; no I don't trust easily. Promises are nuthin but spoken words. You've got a long way. Go prove ya'self.

ME:most people are intimidated by how I look. I can be real snobbish when I choose to. Also am very moody, but a lotta people have bn amazed how friendly I can be. =) juz be str8 up. Am very open to new friends! I've met a lotta new friends via FB. =)

* HATERS : judge me & imma prove ya wrong. Tell me what to do & imma tell ya off. Say am not worth it but watch where I'll end up. Screw me over & I'll make a full turn twice as bad. So be careful. You dowanna bring out the WORST in me. =[

* VALUES : I'm very open minded & liberated, but I know my limits. I don't do FuBU, friends with benefits. One nyters. Or watever shit they invented. I don't giva fuck how big yer dick is if ye braindead am not even into the dating shitt with sex after. I don't fuck around. Seriously! So don't treat me juz like any other HOE, I don't believe in stereotypes. What you see, is not necessarily what you get. There's so much more, so look deep.

*I'm real. Good or bad, flaws and all. Am so IMPERFECT. But am happy because this iz me and this what makes me happy. =)

*I love my family, my friends & people who've been special to me. I'll fight for them till my last breath.

* I'm the girl with her middle finger in the air. As always I don't muthaf*ckin care. What others think of me, is none of my business. Kinda immature. Am spoiled. Am bratty. Am impulsive. I cuss a lot! FUCK.

* I have temper issues. There's a monster in me. I can get real violent & destructive to others, & towards ma self. I need sum1 who can love me and hold me as I begin to mutate.

*I used to be a playah. With boys, relationships. I think at one point, majority of us has done shitty things. Never though I'd finally get serious & stick to one. This is the turning point. Am ready to love deeply & settle down. This time its foreal &9829;

* I believe that everythin happens fo a reazon. People change so that you can learn to let go. Things go wrong so that you appreciate them when they're right. You believe in lies so eventually you trust no1 but why'self. & sometimes good things fall apart so that better things may fall together. True that!

I believe that behind every BEAUTIFUL girl is a DUMBASS guy who did her wrong and made her strong!

* "I've been thru alotta SHIT but imma keep ma head up like ma nose iz bleedin". Weezzyy "kimmy"

I want to meet a Male

With age from 20 to 59

And I want to meet for Friendship or Romance.

Someone who understands my personality.

Member #4643

01-18-15, 20:05

Without as much as an announcement, these sites have become pay sites. Its impossible to browse and send a pretty girl a message. When you do, you get an error message that says, "So-and-so is really popular right now. Message her later of join VIP. " This is true of every single girl, even if she is horrendously ugly. Tagged was pretty good at getting girls in the DR and the Philippines, but its not worth paying a fee. There are still DIA and pinalove for the Phils (these are 100% free) and for the DR, one can always trawl though Facebook.

And if I were to pay for a dating site, it would not be Tagged or Hi5.

Mr Enternational

01-18-15, 20:36

Without as much as an announcement, these sites have become pay sites. Its impossible to browse and send a pretty girl a message. When you do, you get an error message that says, "So-and-so is really popular right now. Message her later of join VIP. " This is true of every single girl, even if she is horrendously ugly. Tagged was pretty good at getting girls in the DR and the Philippines, but its not worth paying a fee.Don't know what you are doing wrong but my Tagged is working just like it always has without paying. Maybe they think you are trolling.

Member #4643

01-19-15, 02:40

Don't know what you are doing wrong but my Tagged is working just like it always has without paying. Maybe they think you are trolling.It would be interesting if they had trolling algorithms. Jackson could invest in that.

Things are better now. I guess they are upgrading their site and it wasnt working before.

Mua Tur

01-19-15, 04:46

It would be interesting if they had trolling algorithms. Jackson could invest in that.

Things are better now. I guess they are upgrading their site and it wasnt working before.Hi5/ tagged made a different looks of only the first page, but all are remain same.

OldJedi

01-20-15, 04:22

Took really a lot of time, but it works fine.

Even for the 50+ of us.

Just had an 21 spinner, student, she was bored, so she asked me for a hook up on FC.

Stayed the night, no BJ but a nice fuck with a non MILF.

Overall IMHO the "quality" of the dating FL's is way better than the FL's in the bars. (if you don't like the pro and semi pro's like me).

OldJedi

01-21-15, 02:56

A question for the experts.

Can't find a definition for, suretaker.

Find it often on the "walking" sites.

Mr Enternational

01-21-15, 05:29

Overall IMHO the "quality" of the dating FL's is way better than the FL's in the bars. (if you don't like the pro and semi pro's like me).And they accept less money as well. You have FL in the bars talking 3000 and it is hard to get them down. Online all the ones I have gotten agreed to 1000.

Pip Jaeger

01-21-15, 23:06

A question for the experts. Can't find a definition for, suretaker. Find it often on the "walking" sites.Often seen as "sure takers only". She wants to make sure you're not a "time waster" and that you'll actually meet her as she's not looking for online chat friends.

X Man

01-25-15, 10:24

Member #4643

02-08-15, 00:34

There was some discussion last week about Tagged changing things. At that time I saw no change, but now I do. I can still check out the profiles of ladies in my friend list. Which is fairly small. The browse function seems to be limited. What a shame. X.The free browsing and texting functions are gone. Every girl I try to message "is really popular right now" and I am asked to "Message her later, or join VIP to contact her and other popular users now. ".

On the other hand, if you "Match" with a girl on "Meet Me", you can message her without a problem. But, only if you match. For fun, I accepted almost every girl I saw on Meet Me (maybe 1 hundred girls in 20 minutes of viewing), and got a several hot looking matches in a few days. Once you are texting a girl, there are no restrictions.

Its a bit of a joke, because I choose my matches based on the photos (and I assume the girls choose me based on my photo as well). But, my photo is not me; rather, its a photo of a guy my age who is strikingly handsome for an old guy. I got the photo from the internet site of a male modeling agency. I could probably use Brad Pitt's photo is I wanted. I doubt anyone would ever notice.

So, if you want to get plenty of action on Hi5 or tagged, make a fake site with a real handsome guy and play Meet Me. I am certain that you will meet plenty of pretty girls that way. Once they come to meet you in person, the odds of fucking them are pretty high (say 80% even though they will instantly recognize the bait and switch. I have used fake photos on Hi5 for a long time, and only 1 in 10 girls even comments that I am not the same guy in the photo.

Hutsori

02-08-15, 18:21

But, my photo is not me; rather, its a photo of a guy my age who is strikingly handsome for an old guy. I got the photo from the internet site of a male modeling agency. I could probably use Brad Pitt's photo is I wanted. I doubt anyone would ever notice.

So, if you want to get plenty of action on Hi5 or tagged, make a fake site with a real handsome guy and play Meet Me. I am certain that you will meet plenty of pretty girls that way. Once they come to meet you in person, the odds of fucking them are pretty high (say 80% even though they will instantly recognize the bait and switch. I have used fake photos on Hi5 for a long time, and only 1 in 10 girls even comments that I am not the same guy in the photo.And the girl is using a model's photo too. :P

I've belonged to tagged for about 3 years now and found several nice fubus there, but it's so-so because so many photos aren't real. The good thing is the faker often choses a photo so implausible, for instance Japanese AV models or bodaciously boobed whites, it's easy enough to detect.

Member #4643

02-09-15, 01:10

And the girl is using a model's photo too. :P

I've belonged to tagged for about 3 years now and found several nice fubus there, but it's so-so because so many photos aren't real. The good thing is the faker often choses a photo so implausible, for instance Japanese AV models or bodaciously boobed whites, it's easy enough to detect.I have never complained about when the girls pull a bait and switch on this forum because I try not to be hypocritical (at least I hope I haven't complained). The only site I have ever shown my real photo was DIA, and I did this by mistake (too much Johnny Walker Black). That account was recently discontinued.

Nevertheless, I find that most of the women's photos on Tagged are real. But when they are not, most of the time the real girl is suitable. That is because 1) if they are young, that counts for a lot, and they are always the stated age and 2) attitude counts for a lot, and I have usually learned a lot about the girl's attitude before they show up. I only get annoyed when they are fat. I just cannot help myself, even though I am a bit overweight myself.

I wonder how many people who use Tagged will actually buy a VIP membership. This must have been the plan by the Tagged executives all along- get lots of people to sign up when its free and get them used to using Tagged for free hookups. They must have had hundreds of thousands of Tagged users. And then, without warning, they made it a pay site. Even if only a small fraction pay the money, they will have a popular and lucrative dating site.

I seem to remember an international sex guide site that did something like this (I think it was called something like the "world sex guide" at that time). The rationale for making us pay was never entirely explained. Nevertheless, I have never regretted paying for the ISG.

Radical Guy

02-09-15, 09:03

I was staying at the Century Park hotel in Malate, and did a WeChat search for females close to me. A 27-year-old hottie who was working at cel phone shop at Harrison Plaza responded. She got off work an hour later and came up to my room for a bit of room service dinner and two earth-shattering pops. Her pussy was naturally hairy, the way I like it, and tasted sweet as candy. She was really happy when I gave her 500 pesos for "cab fare. ".

RG.

WestCoast1

02-09-15, 16:25

LuvAsianTang

02-09-15, 16:37

Radical Guy

02-10-15, 02:22

Would you happen to remember her WeChat name? Inquiring minds want to know haha.

L A T.The beauty of WeChat is that you eliminate the problem of girls responding from 5-10 hours away. The search results in names and pics of girls in order of physical proximity at that moment. I received like 5-6 responses, but I picked that one Harrison Plaza employee. She lived about 2 hours away, but was able to come right over because she was close by when we chatted. Try it whenever you are at whichever hotel you choose.

RG.

Ikksman

02-10-15, 03:07

The beauty of WeChat is that you eliminate the problem of girls responding from 5-10 hours away. The search results in names and pics of girls in order of physical proximity at that moment. I received like 5-6 responses, but I picked that one Harrison Plaza employee. She lived about 2 hours away, but was able to come right over because she was close by when we chatted. Try it whenever you are at whichever hotel you choose.
RG.I wonder how long it will be before the SYTs discover apps like FakeGPS so that they can 'position' themselves close to locations for potential action (such as hotels etc).

Ikksman.

Ms Account

02-24-15, 13:55

Not sure if this has been commented on before did a quick check and couldn't find anything:

Melbourne criminal Ali Ali arrested in Philippines over 17-year-old Alona Alvarez's 'brutal' death.

By Shirley Escalante in Manila, wires.

Updated 4 Feb 2015,7:55 pm.

A Melbourne criminal has been arrested in the Philippines over the "brutal" murder of a 17-year-old girl he met on the internet.

The remains of Alona Alvarez were found by employees at a motel in the southern city of Dipolog on Friday.

Ali Ali, 42, was arrested by police in Dumaguete City on Sunday after witnesses claimed to have seen him in the company of Ms Alvarez before she was found dead.

Ali was only recently released from a Victorian jail after serving a 15-year sentence for what a judge called the "brutal and vicious" bashing of prison inmate Michael Tully.

Local police said Ali flew to the Philippines purposely to meet Ms Alvarez.

Motel staff told police the Australian had checked into a room with her two days before she was found dead.

Police chief superintendent James Gofoth said the suspect had heavily bruised knuckles and admitted to attacking Ms Alvarez after the victim bit him when asked to perform oral sex.

"he said he did it out of self-defence. He said his mind went blank. He was planning to escape to Manila," he said.

Police investigator Ronald Dingas said an autopsy attributed Ms Alvarez's death to acute respiratory failure, caused by multiple injuries.

"Her face was so unrecognisable and horribly disfigured, the mortician had a hard time," he said.

"She suffered a very brutal death. It's too much. ".

Ali faces a 40-year prison term if found guilty. A court appearance has not been scheduled.

Ali was also facing drug charges after allegedly being found in possession of marijuana, considered illegal under Philippines laws.

Ali, then 29, was jailed in 2003 for bashing Tully in a crowded holding cell in 1999.

Victoria's Supreme Court heard Mr Tully sustained severe brain damage after Ali stomped on his head five times in what Justice Bernard Teague called an "unprovoked, vicious and sustained attack on a vulnerable and defenceless man".Sorry very morbid 1st post. I am long time lurker. I will get around to posting one day my experiences.

Naked Gunz

02-25-15, 06:25

Sorry very morbid 1st post. I am long time lurker. I will get around to posting one day my experiences.Wow, what a first post. You arrived with a BANG pal. Geez, I don't know where Dipolog is, but this surely cannot help any mongering activity there at all. This guy hopefully will get whacked in jail. If I were a lifer in jail, and this dirt bag came in for killing a Pinay, he would be put down. Pinays are the sweetest women on earth and always smiling thru a life of complete shit. This dude needs to be gone.

Mr Enternational

02-25-15, 06:41

Not sure if this has been commented on before did a quick check and couldn't find anything:

Sorry very morbid 1st post. I am long time lurker. I will get around to posting one day my experiences.Not sure why it would hurt dating site users. People have always killed people without the use of dating sites. It's not like dating sites popped up then a bunch of killing began.

Ms Account

02-25-15, 10:14

Wow, what a first post. You arrived with a BANG pal. Geez, I don't know where Dipolog is, but this surely cannot help any mongering activity there at all. This guy hopefully will get whacked in jail. If I were a lifer in jail, and this dirt bag came in for killing a Pinay, he would be put down. Pinays are the sweetest women on earth and always smiling thru a life of complete shit. This dude needs to be gone.I didn't mean my headline to trivialize a very sad situation for the girl and her family. I was chatting to a chat mate online and she used it as an excuse not to meet foreigners. She provided me the photo and I googled the article. Not sure it is getting much press in the Philippines. But I agree (1) anyone meeting someone in Dipolog should be aware of it (2) he deserves all he gets in a Filipino prison - 40 years does not sound enough.

Pinaypounder

03-01-15, 13:30

I didn't mean my headline to trivialize a very sad situation for the girl and her family. I was chatting to a chat mate online and she used it as an excuse not to meet foreigners. She provided me the photo and I googled the article. Not sure it is getting much press in the Philippines. But I agree (1) anyone meeting someone in Dipolog should be aware of it (2) he deserves all he gets in a Filipino prison - 40 years does not sound enough.Has the world gone mad?

Look at the beating this poor girl got! Fuck I hope he suffers!

PP.

Pinaypounder

03-04-15, 20:11

I can not sign up to this service for love nor money as soon as I sign up my account is closed. I have set up a new email address, WTF is going on and how do you defeat it?

PP.

Sammon

03-04-15, 22:29

I can not sign up to this service for love nor money as soon as I sign up my account is closed. I have set up a new email address, WTF is going on and how do you defeat it?

PP.Try putting a new phone number. They will text you activation code. You can use anybody's phone.

I believe somebody complained about you and they closed your account.

Sin up new with new username, password, new email address and different phone number.

Hutsori

03-05-15, 16:53

I can not sign up to this service for love nor money as soon as I sign up my account is closed. I have set up a new email address, WTF is going on and how do you defeat it?

PP.Read this, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3575-Date-In-Asia&p=1638650&viewfull=1#post1638650, and the earlier comments. DIA requires two verifications. First step is an email it sends to your account; appears you passed that stage. After that is completed successfully you have to provide your mobile and they will text you a validation code. Did this happen? If not, then they've red flagged your mobile number. If you were able to complete validation step 2 and your account was closed immediately after entering text in your profile and saving it, you likely entered a forbidden word.

You will not in any circumstance ask for or offer money, or any other financial assets. You will not solicit sex, prostitution or escort services. You will not engage in adultry, and you will not seek polygamous or polyamorous relationships. You will not seek friends-with-benefits (FWB) relationships, no-strings-attached (NSA) relationships, casual relationships, casual dating, or anything else that involves casual sex. Violating any of these will lead to a permanent ban of you and your account..

D Cups

03-05-15, 17:46

Read this, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3575-Date-In-Asia&p=1638650&viewfull=1#post1638650, and the earlier comments. DIA requires two verifications. First step is an email it sends to your account; appears you passed that stage. After that is completed successfully you have to provide your mobile and they will text you a validation code. Did this happen? If not, then they've red flagged your mobile number. If you were able to complete validation step 2 and your account was closed immediately after entering text in your profile and saving it, you likely entered a forbidden word.

.PP, my DIA account was deleted but I sent them a friendly email and begged them to reconnect me with my girlfriend because I have no other way of contacting her and it worked. Good luck. I hope you are not using the same handle because that is a dead giveaway!

Good luck. DIA has been a gold mine for me and continues to be.

BrainDrain

03-06-15, 05:25

I have never complained about when the girls pull a bait and switch on this forum because I try not to be hypocritical (at least I hope I haven't complained).

Nevertheless, I find that most of the women's photos on Tagged are real. But when they are not, most of the time the real girl is suitable. That is because 1) if they are young, that counts for a lot, and they are always the stated age and 2) attitude counts for a lot, and I have usually learned a lot about the girl's attitude before they show up. I only get annoyed when they are fat. I just cannot help myself, even though I am a bit overweight myself.Recently I had two bait & switch through Tagged.

One was the mother operating the account on behalf of her stunning model looks daughter. The daughter is hot property and the mother is ensuring she goes to a nice rich foreigner. All Tagged 'chats' were with the mother.

The other was the worldly Manila cousin of a provincial girl. The provincial girl didn't have Tagged and not particularly internet savvy. Cousin set up and maintains Tagged activity. The 'handoff' was made to the real girl once I was in the provincial town I was given her Globe number.

In the former case I was annoyed as the girl was beautiful but I really felt it was a set up (and good luck to the 65 year old USA Dr whom is the front runner in that auction, enjoy supporting the whole family).

The the latter, I was extremely happy. The photos were real and she was nice enough to tell me as we were laying on the bed the following morning.

Of course, it is also best practice' to try have a Skype hookup. In the above two cases I was already in town and didn't have much to lose.

BD.

Capt Munch

03-07-15, 07:38

More fun in the Philippines (LOL).

I had a scheduled date for yesterday afternoon off the dating site for an exchange of a blue note for tuition assistance. . . . .

And the part that always amazes me. . . Is trying to plan a meeting point.

Yesterday's girl kept saying that she wanted to meet at a Jollibees out on a local "F highway". I look up on google and find where it is.

It is probably 6 or 7 km from my place. . . . . So no problem. I go there at the arranged time and WAIT. I finally get a text and she is nowhere near that place that I had identified exactly where I would be in multiple texts!

So. . . . she is actually nearer to my place so I go there. A couple of more texts "where are you?

And. . . . she apparently decides from sitting in the trike that I am "to OLD" for her. That is certainly her perogative and no loss on my part other than some of my time. A lot of chasing around for nothing, but then I don't know what she did for the trike money that I was going to ante up.

TODAY. . . Make arrangements to meet another girl at the local mall. We do that. She and her friend both get fed at McDo. We jump in the car for a trip home.

A small donation moves this to the bedroom. . . No problem.

BUT. . . .

1. I get a request for a cell phone.

2. The story about how sick Mom is.

3. Her friend suggests that she needs a donation for "food" after she already had lunch and did nothing else but go along for the ride.

And these must be the semi-pros (LOL).

Munch.

Member #4643

03-13-15, 00:54

I was in Makati in January for 5 days, and all of my girls were from DIA.

The hard part was getting them to show up in a timely fashion. All of girls I had lined up were willing, but wanted to wait a night, or two hours or whatever. Even when the girls said they would be at my hotel in an hour, they were hours late (or cancelled). But, after canceling, they all wanted to re schedule. If was a bit frustrating, and as I was across the street from the Havana Cafe, I almost gave up on my ladies.

The good news is that being persistent and patient paid off in a big way. In 5 days, I had four girls, one of whom was bisexual and called her girlfriend up to join us. I had sex at least 10 times (I am not certain) and it was always great. Everything including anal and bareback was on the menu (although I am a bit conservative about such things). I always overpaid, but money was never mentioned. Heaven.

On my last day in Makati, I woke up alone. I had a girl coming at 2 pm and I needed to work out in the hotel gym. So I needed a quick date. In addition, I wanted to get rid of my DIA account, which was 4 years old (it was old enough that some of my inquiries to girls resulted in questions like "why are you on DIA so long time? Are you playing games?").

So, I decided to be completely and totally upfront with the girls, realizing that I might be deleted at any moment by DIA. I basically told each girl that I was really interested in meeting a girl within the next few hours, that I am fun and very generous, and that I wanted naughty fun. Almost every girl responded (about half said "no" The other half just could not get their act together to make it to the New World Makati Hotel in less than two hours. It was Sunday and before noon, so I was not totally surprised by this). I probably communicated with 20 girls. Finally, I came upon a woman who was pregnant. Her profile said she needed help in life. So, I offered her help in return for a few hours of fun. I told her I had never been naughty with a pregnant woman and would love the opportunity. She responded very angrily as if I were calling her a prostitute and within a few hours, I was deleted from DIA. Unfortunately, I ended up having to wait until my 2 o'clock date arrived at 4 pm to get laid.

Getting a new account with a much better pseudonym and a photo that was not my own was not hard, although my profile was denied three times before it was accepted. The first denial was kind of funny: I used a photo of a male model from an international agency and did not realize that Tineye would pick it up. That should have disqualified me forever, but it did not. Basically, words such as naughty and generous are not allowed. But, I do not believe the DIA software is very foolproof as long as you don't upset one of the ladies. I will change my profile before my next trip to Manila to include some of the code words. I intend to say that I am looking for a girl who is into naughty fun. If I get through, I will report back.

Basically, I love DIA.

FreebieFan

03-13-15, 01:43

Mogwai

03-13-15, 08:42

I was in Makati in January for 5 days, and all of my girls were from DIA.
The hard part was getting them to show up in a timely fashion. There are quite a lot of stories on this board about Pinays showing up many hours later than agreed but I guess I have been lucky so far. I've had 5 girls from WeChat and except for the last one they all showed up at the agreed time. Well, sometimes maybe 15 minutes later but no more than that.
Only the last one was 2 hours late but man she was worth it! FR will follow.

Red Kilt

03-30-15, 10:32

Hutsori

03-30-15, 10:51

I spotted this ad on CL today.

Pretty but fat female.

" . . . I'm 5'2, 230 pounds. I'm looking for someone who would like to have an unattached setup. Please send picture and contact number and I will send mine in return. . ".

My mind is boggling at 5'2' and 230 pounds. OMG.

I am 6 ft 2 and only 170 pounds.

I am sure there will be some takers. It won't be me.Yes, there are a lot of the BBWs in the casual encounters section; working girls make up the majority of the ads, and I think this dissuades non-working girls from posting their own. Every girl but one I've met on CL has been a lurker who replied to my ads. Many memorable meetings.

BrainDrain

03-31-15, 22:06

Getting a new account with a much better pseudonym and a photo that was not my own was not hard, although my profile was denied three times before it was accepted. The first denial was kind of funny: I used a photo of a male model from an international agency and did not realize that Tineye would pick it up. I heard a TED talk a couple of weeks ago that said using an 'average' picture would give more success. If the pic is "too good" or too beautiful then people will skip over it knowing that that beautiful person is out of their league.

Since then I've realised I do that with the lady profiles as well. If they are too gorgeous I know they are out of my league or a fake.

Just use an average Joe pic.

Pip Jaeger

03-31-15, 22:49

Since then I've realised I do that with the lady profiles as well. If they are too gorgeous I know they are out of my league or a fake.Or a ladyboy.

Member #4387

04-02-15, 20:37

Probably debated before but this can not be mentioned to often. What I'm talking about is the fact that a lot of suckers agree to meet a girl for a date and they send her money upfront. Most people here are fully aware of not doing so, atleast not until you have some report with a girl and she comes forward as trustable. Almost every pinay out there are able to collect (or have themself) enough money to show up for a rewardable session. There are probably exceptions out there but not many atlest from my knowledge and I list count how many girls managed to arrive my hotel by themself. Yes, some have asked for money upfront but I never gave in. Instead I have send them cars to pick them up and got them to ask the driver to call me so me and him make arrangments upon arrival. But for the greater girls manage transportation fine by themself and show up at meeting point hazzlefree.

Reason for debating, tonight I was bored, with GF and baby on easter holiday, so I got in touch with a long time female fb contact in Paranaque. She could tell me she and her friends were drinking here the other day and they did what she called having a "collecting cab fare money" eve. Hitting on guys in various online sites. She maby added a bit but I believe her when she tells guys where sending 500 and 1000 piso without them having any intention to actually meet up. I briefly know the girls she's together with and knows one of them are a freelancer so she came up with this idea. I believe her as I not so long time ago was talking to an aussie bloke at Gloriettas Outback wanting to vent out a bit. Last night he had shipped 2000 php to a girl of who he was supposed to meet 4 hours prior to our convo. She was available until she collected the money. I gave him the "now you learn" talk and he agreed he was a sucker. The man himself had high toughts of pinays and yes there are many goid ones but dealing with the blurred crowd between p4 p / non p4 p can be tough. They look and act sweet like no one else but my strong point is never to send money to anyone, never ever. Not bcs of the ammount itself but the feeling you get beeing a sucker. Yes I know I can be a sucker myself but not in this aspect (to the phil defenders).

Pip Jaeger

04-03-15, 02:42

Probably debated before but this can not be mentioned to often.SNIP Most people here are fully aware of not doing so, at least not until you have some report with a girl and she comes forward as trustable. Almost every pinay out there are able to collect (or have themself) enough money to show up for a rewardable session. There are probably exceptions out there but not many atlest from my knowledge SNIP And even the ones who you think you can trust are likely to try something. Yesterday gf6, who've I've known for over 2 years, texted me. She asked for a "loan" so she could buy food for the holiday. She rarely bothers me with those types of requests and when she does, I usually just ignore her anyway.

I had just "borrowed" her p500 last weekend and sessioned with her on Monday, where she got her regular compensation (I already knew I could write off the p500 she borrowed). As it was already planned to see gf6 again on Sat morning for a 3 some with gf2 so I told her no and that I was busy. That only led to her first pleading and then outright begging; she was almost literally burning up my phone. GF's 1 & 2 were with me, they both of course know her and they also knew I had just been with her. Gf1 said she'd handle it, which she did and the loan requests soon stopped.

But what I found most interesting was a comment gf6 made (Gf1 was relating the entire conversation to me; I trained her well, LOL). She said to gf1 (via text): "You have your way of getting money out of him and I have mine. ".

To me that simply indicated that I'm nothing more than a walking ATM machine to her; something that's easy to forget when you begin "trusting" these girls. If anything, I'm now grateful for the stark reminder of my place in her life as well as my place here in general. And oh, despite somewhat angry context of the conversations, I'll still see her tomorrow morning for the 3 some (insert big grin). She already msd'd me this morning apologizing for her rude behavior and confirming tomorrow's meet up; she knows which side of her bread is buttered on, LOL.

Sammon

04-03-15, 05:26

I have sent air tickets and money and was scammed only one time for 500 pesos by a manila suburb girl, she texted me later saying she is sorry and does not want to loose her cherry. She was 18 years old. My trusted ones are from the provinces. I guess nowadays more and more girls are asking for money on chat sites. I never send money anymore only send air ticket and ask them to borrow money for expenses.

D Cups

04-03-15, 18:55

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1702375 And even the ones who you think you can trust are likely to try something. Yesterday gf6. Hi Pip, so you have SIX regulars (or more)? Man, I can't wait to retire there!

Pip Jaeger

04-03-15, 23:12

PipJaeger;1702375 And even the ones who you think you can trust are likely to try something. Yesterday gf6. Hi Pip, so you have SIX regulars (or more)? Man, I can't wait to retire there! .

More. I have ADD and get bored easily. Besides, variety is the spice of life, LOL.

Vagabundo69

04-07-15, 20:34

The job is not done when you have the girls digits. Many of us have experienced bad receptions, connection cuts, girls don't answer and this ever ending pasaload request. If I clearly sense that a girl are actually out of load I pass on some pisos though my phone (at least for the Smart system it is easy to give out some load). Except from that I am allergic to money request but my girls are well informed about that through precommunication but some try the small amounts anyway. Many girls have many phones and if I find this out I skip them bcs then they most likely are BG or P4 P. Most of the normal girls I try to run after have sometimes enough holding one phone up and running, hehe. For girls in BG category I try avoid them but of course sometimes this fails. To scope for the BG I see when they are logged in FB/Datingsites(no exact science).

The most used frase the day our meet is going to take place is...OK. This is beautiful info, and thank you for all the detail.

ALL my experience on these sites is (and this includes from afar, AND while here in the Philippines. I am here now for a month).

Is that ALL the girls would NOT just come to my place for a first meeting. In fact, while I get tons of attention (dozens of emails and likes per day).

They immediately shift into what I call the "suspicious female inquisition" mode of asking how long I am staying, how many girls.

Why do I want to meet right away, am I "serious", etc. Etc. It's been hard enough to get them to meet for coffee.

Let along come RIGHT TO MY HOTEL? ESPECIALLY if you make it clear that money is NOT involved, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM.

To have them come RIGHT to your hotel for a first meeting? Your specifics would be greatly appreciated. I'm fully aware that perhaps.

It is I that am being too cautious, but I certainly don't sense that any of these girls are open to that.

Thanks!

Vagabundo69

04-07-15, 20:44

Plenty. Phone apps, wechat whatsapp line kakao bee etc. . DIA Pinalove Filipina Cupid badoo tagged hi5 ok cupid and a whole host more, plus fb. New ones pop up every week. Similar to Skogis, I've never had a first date fail (ok, once in ten years is almost never LOL.) got to know your market and set out your strategy appropriately.I'm in Phils now, and have loved some of my trip.

And met some cuties too.

BUT, when using the dating sites, while I get literally hundreds of likes, emails, etc.

They ALL make it clear "looking for serious" etc. Etc.

And those who I like, and start communicating with, talk / write in such a way that.

Sounds very clear they are the "suspicious of one night stand type men" types.

Given this demeanor, that seems ubiquitous, what do I possibly say to invite them to my place.

For a first meeting? Those that I HAVE met for "dates" (coffee or just a talk), have resulted in flirtation, and.

A couple of makeouts, but then "I'm not ready" . . .

Am I choosing the wrong girls? Not being aggressive enough?

Would love to hear your advice, as I fully believe that I am sabotaging myself.

Thank you!

Member #4387

04-07-15, 23:52

They immediately shift into what I call the "suspicious female inquisition" mode of asking how long I am staying, how many girls. Why do I want to meet right away, am I "serious", etc. Etc. It's been hard enough to get them to meet for coffee.
Let along come RIGHT TO MY HOTEL? ESPECIALLY if you make it clear that money is NOT involved, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM.
To have them come RIGHT to your hotel for a first meeting? Your specifics would be greatly appreciated. I'm fully aware that perhaps. It is I that am being too cautious, but I certainly don't sense that any of these girls are open to that.
Thanks!Since u are adressing an issue many people ask me about through the PM system i can once again tell in public how i do it(some new some old tactics). Firstly, I would not worry to much about the pinays "suspicious female inquisition"as it is not as well developed as for girls in a first world country. Here girls, even socalled educated ones, are far more gullible than we are used to from back home. U are in a 3 world country where people lack normal good quality edu and critical and analytic minds are almost from my knowledge almost non existent. Many of these girls have no good outlooks for the future and they seem to know it. Most commonly heard words is "i want to get work abroad". All of this can work to our advantage. I will allready here tell i state loud and clear in precommunication "i have no time for serious relationship right now but i hope we can be "good" friends"".

I hear and read punters having trouble getting them girls to their hotel and if they come straight to the hotel the girls are p4 p. Life is not so black and white no matter how long you stayed in phils and no matter how well people think they know what is going on. Different people will find different ways and what works for ne might not work for you and so on.

What I sense in general that girls these days are beeing more cautious than before to come straight to my hotel. Saying they have become more cautious does not mean it is out of the questions(not at all just have to go at it a tad stronger than before maybe). Jest press the right buttons and the girls keep popping into my room like before. So how to push the right buttons?

Well, as stated before what works for me might not work for you etc, but I make a very friendly approach in precommunication where I leave all my dirty thoughts away from the communication. I compliment them and tell them a few bullshit words about myself and what I do here in phils(i have to BS them as i have no biz in phils). I build report on them quite fast and I get them to trust me. After dealing with datingsites and other simularities for a good 10-15 years, and beeing relatively successful too, I can fast tell where a convo is going (almost in a blink of a second). If a girl reply late she is not that into you. If you get her to answer fast she makes you her priority and you have a fair 98/99% chance of succeed in bedding the poor lady, hehe. Other code breaking words I use after I understand she is into me is I highlight the fact I am only in town for short time and if we are going to meet it should happen realy fast (sometimes I use the frase "we have to be effective sweetie" With very few exceptions this tactic seems to work for the better on my behalf. The girls get interested into meeting me and they actually make an effort to do so. When you get them girls to this stage we can say without beeing offensive "I am in control". If you get a pinay inside your room I can not until this day remember not bedding her if I like to do so (based on the same tactic). Well I don't jump them or anything as I still play the nice guy and the guy that has to be effective. "can I have a kiss sweetie as you are a sexy peach" never fails and from kissing to bedplay it is only a few minutes. I know some people don't like to hear this but beeing a relatively young, healthy, normaly fit and tall guy of vikingblood does not seem to be any drawback (others may differ but I don't care as long as them girls keep coming). I put my pride in good hygenic standards and are allways well groomed and dressed.

I never mention anything regarding money as I want them to come over from other motivations and this works perfectly fine by me. Some will ask for transportationmoney and I say "ok" as long as they manage to get to my place. Sometimes I pretend I am stupid and ask her how much she thinks her transportation will cost (return incl). Actually I don't give a shit about her answer as firstly transportation here are very very cheap (taxi incl) and secondly I allways compensate them girls well anyway and they will walk away with no less than 2 k and often more. But they don't know this so I can balance my donations out of attitude, performance, looks etc etc. Some girls ofcourse start to talk about some trouble they have (indirect way of wanting cash). When this happens I refer to precommunications as this issue is well debated there. I am not interested in hearing about trouble or any family dramas as this is not my thing. I make a strong point out of the fact as if they are about to meet me they have to be positive and a "yes" person (also applies a bit up to the sex part, hehe).

In a couple of days I will hunt my way through manila again. I will once again be effective so I have duoed or trippled the girls up so they come over in groups rather than one by one. This is more effective timewice and if they are late it is better to wait for 3 girls than one. But nagging about beeing on time also seems to help. Once again back to "I only stay here short time" makes the girl actually making an effort to be on time according to my estimated time of arrival(ETA)sched. We all know how horrendous traffic can be in this town so I give girls a bit slack these days. I was more nazi earlier on and cancelled a few dates when they were 30 min late or more. I also give them examples as in "if I want you to come here noon you start travel 10 (almost no matter where in MNL they live). This agian means you have to start makeup and showers around 9 and so on and so on". Most of them get this so for a long time now girls have been on time according to my ETA.

I almost never date the girls as in normal fashion dating games. This happens only if i want to and then it could mean clubbing or go out to eat if i am hungry. I decide where and what to eat(mostly western joints). It is not like i am an asshole or anything so if a girl claims she is hungry and i am not she can get anything she wants ex white rice, hehe. Partly true but as i hate rice myself i say to them i am allergic to it(i am not, simply dont like it). This means the girls eat less and for the greater part it is educational as white rice is the poison of phils(atleast the way people there feast from it). Yes yes i understand it is cheap and that most people here have no choice than eating rice but still it is not healthy eating rice all the time all day. The mother of my phil baby must be a rare speciment as she dont eat rice at all(only veggies and good quality meat)and according to her our mutual daughter will not be introduced to white rice so she will be healthy from of which i am agreat big fan so no argument there(OT).

Don't know if this was helpful at all but atleast it is my MO.

Happy mongering.

D Cups

04-08-15, 04:28

[QUOTE=Skogis;1704436 Since you are adressing an issue many people ask me about. You are making a lot of good points, Sko. The girls are unbelievably sweet and gullible. So different than anywhere else I have been yet some of them have been hurt by poriners so they are a little more skeptical but still doable. I usually meet via DIA then skype then in real with lots of impromptus at LA cafe, Amazon or mall if I am lucky. To me it's like shooting fish in the barrel. The good ones become regulars and sure sometimes I Western Union them but really it is such a small amount, 1 or 2 K, (pesos of course) that I consider it a worthwhile charity. I don't think I've ever been shot down but maybe I am lucky. Anyhow, cheers, mate. I'll be there in October -Manila, Cebu, Angeles and Subic- for the annual tube cleaning hahha.

D Cups

04-08-15, 04:40

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1702703.

More. I have ADD and get bored easily. Besides, variety is the spice of life, LOL. Indeed, my friend. HA! I don't know how people can choose just one chocolate when you can have a whole box. Never ending supply.

Makeupaname

04-08-15, 06:21

Let along come RIGHT TO MY HOTEL? ESPECIALLY if you make it clear that money is NOT involved, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM.

To have them come RIGHT to your hotel for a first meeting? Your specifics would be greatly appreciated. I'm fully aware that perhaps.
Why would a non pro come directly to your room for a first meet if you make it clear no money is involved? What is the incentive?

Do you offer to pay their costs? Small gift? Dinner? Take them swimming? Would you tip them afterwards? Note Skogis girls are leaving with 2000 pesos.

Hutsori

04-08-15, 08:31

Is that ALL the girls would NOT just come to my place for a first meeting. In fact, while I get tons of attention (dozens of emails and likes per day).Of course not all the girls will come. But if you don't tell (not ask, tell) her to come then you're not giving her the chance to say, "Okay. " Why are you denying her that opportunity? Be more considerate, like your momma taught you.

They immediately shift into what I call the "suspicious female inquisition" mode of asking how long I am staying, how many girls.So what. Just tell them you promise discretion and don't discuss other women. I say this right in my profile and I restate it in my messages. Add that you will never ask her about other men. A lot of girls have this hang up about being judged. After you give her the reply I mentioned stop talking about other women. Move the conversation forward. Your goal from the beginning is to take the interest she has, establish rapport, get her to see you as a good guy who is safe and sane, and have her act on her interest.

Why do I want to meet right away, am I "serious", etc. Etc. It's been hard enough to get them to meet for coffee.You might be setting yourself up for failure. Does your profile mention serious? Do you say this in your messages?

Let along come RIGHT TO MY HOTEL? ESPECIALLY if you make it clear that money is NOT involved, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM.If you don't want money involved then simply say:"No money is involved. " You add that you'll cover transportation.

To have them come RIGHT to your hotel for a first meeting? Your specifics would be greatly appreciated. I'm fully aware that perhaps.Yes, I have them come right to my condo. I suspect a possible problem is that you are in a hotel. Perhaps girls see you as a tourist. Think about using airbnb for a condo.

It is I that am being too cautious, but I certainly don't sense that any of these girls are open to that.You won't know until you try, will ya? The beauty of the Philippines is you can make mistakes in your approach and refine your craft without risk of an extended dry spell.

BUT, when using the dating sites, while I get literally hundreds of likes, emails, etc.Sounds like your profile is unfocused or, worse, mentioning the things you think the girls want to hear but are untrue for you. When I first started on a dating site I used a generic profile mentioning I'm looking to meet a special someone for a relationship and let's have coffee, yada yada. I wasn't looking for that at all. I was wasting my time exchanging messages with far too many women and running around for meetings. Lucky for me I posted some ads on CL that got very good responses. The women who met me said that found what I wrote provocative and exciting. I changed my dating site profile to one talking about sex. (Don't do this on DIA.) Did I receive fewer emails and interests? Thank God yes. It allowed me to focus my attention and intention on those girls who were looking for some fun. Do all girls read my profile? Nope. So I always ask this: "Have you read my profile and do you understand what I'm looking for?" Some girls never reply back. Other girls reply, "Yes, that's why I contacted you. " And from there we more forward.

They ALL make it clear "looking for serious" etc. Etc.Of course they do. So what? Why are you taking their words so seriously? If you, from the get go, entertain the "serious relationship" facade then the girl will think you're serious. Why are you misleading her? Stop doing that. Tell her what you're looking for (do so with a some humour and charm) and then let her decide.

And those who I like, and start communicating with, talk / write in such a way that. Sounds very clear they are the "suspicious of one night stand type men" types. Given this demeanor, that seems ubiquitous, what do I possibly say to invite them to my place. For a first meeting? Those that I HAVE met for "dates" (coffee or just a talk), have resulted in flirtation, and. A couple of makeouts, but then "I'm not ready" . . .Because you're meeting girls who genuinely want a serious relationship, ergo you're wasting your time. Or maybe they want a relationshop, one where you take them shopping. (It's kind of funny the word one makes up from a typo.) If you are meeting a girl again and again and it's going nowhere she has no interest fucking you. Cut your loses. This is why the first meeting ought to be at your place. She already has it in mind that she'll be fucking you. Then and there. She's prepared herself for that. When the first meeting is at Starbucks what she has in mind is a venti moccha frappachino.

Am I choosing the wrong girls? Not being aggressive enough?Seems so. You're not being upfront from the get go. You are selling them a bill of goods that they see all the time. Most of the messages they receive are from overseas fellas who either 1) proclaim their love in the first message, or 2) want a cam show, or 3) immediately offer money for a fuck. These girls learn, some quickly and others not so fast. If you are repeating the same standard lines she sees dozens of times each day you're not differentiating yourself from the pack. You have a huge advantage. You are in the Philippines. I bet ninety per cent of the guys on the dating sites never set foot here. Don't be aggressive. Be assertive.

I fully believe that I am sabotaging myself.Bingo!

Why would a non pro come directly to your room for a first meet if you make it clear no money is involved? What is the incentive?Women like sex too. You know that, right? They aren't all mercenaries.

Do you offer to pay their costs? Small gift? Dinner? Take them swimming? Would you tip them afterwards? Note Skogis girls are leaving with 2000 pesos.I cook them a meal often. Sometimes take them out to a movie or dinner. A nightclub. My condo has a pool. I have a rule of three. Three NSA hookups with a girl and if we both like each other then we may do other outside-the-bedroom activities together. Some girls are only sex. Other girls are a pleasure to hang out with too.

Have you ever seen the movie What about Bob? There's a wonderful scene where Dr. Wiley tells Bob to take a vacation from himself. When you came to the Philippines on holiday you also packed your culture's dating practices and norms. Unpack that shit. Take a vacation from yourself.

ImAGuy

04-08-15, 09:01

D Cups

04-08-15, 14:31

Slippery

04-08-15, 14:45

Perhaps it's your approach, you're 17, or you're not attractive either.

ImAGuy

04-08-15, 22:14

I'm in my early thirties and definitely not bad looking. Have a solid job as well. Dunno.

Ikksman

04-09-15, 00:41

I'm in my early thirties and definitely not bad looking. Have a solid job as well. Dunno.Not sure why, but your posts instantly made me recall a catchy song from my childhood that I have not heard it for at least 50 years:

"Cos you've got, personality,
Walk, personality
Talk, personality
Smile, personality
Charm, personality
Love, personality
And of course you've got
A great big heart"

Just saying!

Ikksman

ImAGuy

04-09-15, 01:24

Hahaha true. I have *zero* game.

Can anyone direct me to a good FAQ or thread for those interested in moving to PH? I'm looking at Baguio, due to better climate. Anything wrong with that city?

Wicked Roger

04-09-15, 02:58

I'm in my early thirties and definitely not bad looking. Have a solid job as well. Dunno.Personally if you find it tough on the dating sites then don't come to the country as this really would challenge you and you would spend all day chatting to thin air as the girls are very hard nuts to crack IMHO.

Am sure many would agree as this board is full of those stories.

D Cups

04-09-15, 15:27

Hahaha true. I have *zero* game.

Can anyone direct me to a good FAQ or thread for those interested in moving to PH? I'm looking at Baguio, due to better climate. Anything wrong with that city?I have been to that city although it was quite a while ago. Dated a singer there who loved to suck the schwantztooka as it was good lubricant for her throat. Baguio of course is cooler and shady, nice little hills but also has developed a smog problem. Say Hello, to the Iggorots from me.

Member #4351

04-09-15, 15:34

Hahaha true. I have *zero* game.Why don't you forget about dating sites and just go to Angeles City?

Capt Munch

04-09-15, 19:04

I've been trying to hit up some girls on online dating sites with little success.

Tried DIA, FC and PL.

Is PH much better in person or what?I live in Angeles and recently opened my profile back up on one of the dating sites.

But since I am in Angeles, I guess it shouldn't come as much of a surprise. . . .

How many requests there are from various chat mates for ST. . . Usually they are raring to go and want to meet right away.

NOW. . . I prefer LT and my BOOM2X in the evening, so quite often that doesn't work out (for me) even though I have set up some afternoon liaisons.

One girl was insisting on ST but then finally settled on LT. . . The first hour at my place she was busy chatting with the Filipino BF that was roaming the neighborhood drinking with his buddies (so I guess that was why she was resistant on the LT).

But. . . I am sure that when she brought the pisos home. . . And after he nursed a hangover, everything was OK (LOL).

I can't speak for Baguio though. . . That would seem to be a tougher market to probably get that kind of response.

As another poster mentioned. . . Try Angeles first. . . It is only a 4 hour or so bus ride to go check out Baguio for a couple of days (Nice place).

Munch.

Hutsori

04-10-15, 05:43

I've been trying to hit up some girls on online dating sites with little success.

Tried DIA, FC and PL.

The only ones into me are usually older than me, not attractive, or have a kid.

Is PH much better in person or what?I'll start with your last question first. When you are in the Philippines women see you are here. Rather than being some guy in a far off land who will likely never visit the Philippines you are accessible. It's the difference between a wish and a likelihood. This counts for a lot on a dating site. Take a look at the competition; do a search for men aged 25-55 living in the city of your choosing, e.g. Manila, Baguio, or wherever. How many non Filipinos do you find? I just did this on DIA for Manila. I checked the first 7 pages on which there are 80 profiles each for a total of 560. The number of non-Asian foreigners? Ten. Then I ran the same search but changed the location from Manila to anywhere in world. In the first 40 profiles there were 10 foreigners. (I'll add that there were a ton a ladyboys and gay-looking blokes in the search results, and this works in your favour since girls running their searches see the same results.) Being here trumps being there, IMO. Now, not all girls are looking for a foreigner. Some prefer an older guy who they see as more stable and less likely to run around with other girls. Other girls don't want an older guy.

I ran a search looking for women 18-32 in Manila whose profiles state they have no children. Of the first 80 results 15 of them I found attractive (pretty face, fair, and thin), in the 6-8 range. I did the same search for Baguio and 17 of 80 I found attractive. So, Baguio it is. Whoa. I'll cover this in a moment. I didn't see any that I'd consider 9-10. If you are willing to meet girls who have kids then the results are even better; I don't know why you'd rule them out if you're not looking for marriage. Anyway, plenty of pretty girls join the dating sites. How long they last is another matter. No worries; there are always more women who'll join.

Is Baguio better than Manila? I wouldn't say that. Online now at 12:30 pm Philippine time are 79 girls in Manila and only 1 in Baguio.

You plan to move here but you didn't mention when. Perhaps you've started your search too early.

Of course being here you can do mall wandering or hang out in bars, but to me it's not an efficient use of my time.

I'm in my early thirties and definitely not bad looking. Have a solid job as well. DunnoPhotos are important. Good looking people can take bad photos and average looking people can be quite photogenic. When I first joined DIA I used my passport photo. It was completely fine, but I can take better photos. I started posting photos on these hot or not websites to get an assessment of how women saw me - I still do this. I posted photos of different hair lengths, facial hair, clothing, location, etc. I researched how to take better photos and used the tips. The photos that score the highest I use on the dating sites. Sites such as FC and PL are better because you can post several photos, and of course women do likewise.

Hahaha true. I have *zero* game.Just like any other skill the more you practice with focussed intent the better you'll get.

Pinaypounder

04-10-15, 08:36

Last trip I only had 3 woman, I am evolving, but each was a Dating site contact, 2 of 3 slept with me on the first meeting, the 3rd had her period and is now my keeper. I am in my fifties, attractive enough, in good shape but big, don't smoke treat them well and am a clear communicator that is typically well dressed.

All 3 are at my disposal and 2 are being trained to fuck better and ideally join the bisexual olympics.

All 3 were not paid, activities were my treat, (like ALWAYS EVERYWHERE) and I made sure they could take a cab home when they left.

All 3 were in their 30+, 1 had kids. I am no longer have an interest to fuck young stupid hotties, I enjoy the sex with women that enjoy being fucked. Connections were easy to create, they woman were horny and easy to fuck somehow they know I am good in bed and they were well fucked! I a VERY affectionate, I love eating pussy and this is important. I make them feel loved not used but I also don't lie and do my best not to break their hearts.

Getting laid in the Phils by an attractive woman is 25 times easier than here in Alberta Canada.

Here I don't even really try as most women are over 150 lbs and frankly that is almost disgusting!

IF you can't get laid in the phils perhaps you like men? By far they are the easiest, wettest women in the world.

PP.

ImAGuy

04-10-15, 14:48

Hmm. Interesting thoughts, guys. I really appreciate the responses you have and I'll contribute in the future when I'm actually living there.

I've lived the last four years in China where money is everything and looks / age do not factor in at all. I assumed the PH girls would be the same.

Baguios climate seems like heaven on Earth. 40's in the winter, high 70's in the summer. Cannot stand heat. Guess a man has to make a choice between nicer weather and more chances with girls, eh?

Also, any spiders or huge bugs in the bigger cities?

Hutsori

04-10-15, 20:29

I've lived the last four years in China where money is everything and looks / age do not factor in at all. I assumed the PH girls would be the same.

Baguios climate seems like heaven on Earth. 40's in the winter, high 70's in the summer. Cannot stand heat. Guess a man has to make a choice between nicer weather and more chances with girls, eh?

Also, any spiders or huge bugs in the bigger cities?Don't get me wrong. For some women money is very important. But for other women who have an education and a career their motivations are less mercenary. I'm sure there are other reasons too, especially if the woman has a child.

The Philippines isn't a great choice if you loathe the heat.

Yes, large insects in Manila. At night I see giant cockroaches swarming from the sewer grates. Sometimes these find their way into the buildings. Usually it's the smaller German cockroach that invade your flat.

Slippery

04-10-15, 23:08

Don't forget the ones that fly. We'd get those when I lived out 20 kms outside of Manila.

Member #4387

04-11-15, 04:27

Last night I was feasting from one of my 2 pimpettes girls. The one at stake told me she had lovelies willing to fuck me. I have learned to trust her as she provides mostly her fellow uni friends but this time she went out of the box. Meeting outside my hotel stood 3 girls (pimpette incl). 2 of the girls looked like 10 yo or sth. I asked them about ID and it showed they were 18 from a few months back. I also let one hotel representative look at their ID's just to be sure as I am no expert in dealing with phil ID. He told me "ok sir, you have a ball".

Up to the room we went. Something wasnt right so I talked more about age and how important it is the girls to be above 18 yo. Suddenly pimpette cracked and admitted the girls were only 16 and 17 yo. I fucked the pimpette and gave the bunch just a taxi fare and some extras so they could feast at McDonalds. I had a serious talk to my pimpette were I told her again the same story (girls she provides me must be above 18 and upwards. She admitted she talked about me to her family group and that one of the girls was her younger sister. The second one was a friend of her etc etc.

Be aware guys to avoid shitty situations. I don't know if I could live with myself knowing I fucked a youngster. As I write this same pimpette ship over 2 new classmates of her. Life is lovely.

WestCoast1

04-11-15, 07:03

Also, any spiders or huge bugs in the bigger cities?Not at all sure why you'd think that.

Hutsori

04-11-15, 07:30

Be aware guys to avoid shitty situations. I don't know if I could live with myself knowing I fucked a youngster. As I write this same pimpette ship over 2 new classmates of her. Life is lovely.Close call. If I understand the law, or the enforcement of it, merely being with a underaged girl can cause you grief.

Member #4387

04-11-15, 08:41

Close call. If I understand the law, or the enforcement of it, merely being with a underaged girl can cause you grief.Yes and these girls are nice so no worries there but as a general observation it can not be stressed enough. I e our ever prisoned anal friend serving in phil prison. No fun.
My pimpette did not know it was even a law(i dont know what they teach in uni but i am sure she is not taking law degree). I was furious to say the least. I agree with u totaly Huts. Keep our vits to some points even if we run around in a horny fog:-)

NastyaHeyYo

04-15-15, 23:11

I think that there aren't any rules how you must create your relations! But I think that if we have feelings to each other we will overcome all difficulties! The most important is to believe in success!) It doesn't matter at all who we are or what we like! If you love you will like everything in your beloved man or woman, it's my mind! For example, my husband and I are very different, but we love each other very strong!) he found me in this site https://mymagicbrides.com/ and since that moment we're inseparable!) he's composed and quiet, but I'm crazy girl!) However it doesn't prevent from our love and life in perfect harmony!) I wish you to find mutual understanding with your sweetheart and be happy!

X Man

04-18-15, 14:22

Llife is short. I love dog. I like cook.

D Cups

04-18-15, 14:40

So, I wonder, "magic bride" what are you doing on this forum if things are so great at home? Perhaps advertising this website?

I think that there aren't any rules how you must create your relations! But I think that if we have feelings to each other we will overcome all difficulties! The most important is to believe in success!) It doesn't matter at all who we are or what we like! If you love you will like everything in your beloved man or woman, it's my mind! For example, my husband and I are very different, but we love each other very strong!) he found me in this site https://mymagicbrides.com/ and since that moment we're inseparable!) he's composed and quiet, but I'm crazy girl!) However it doesn't prevent from our love and life in perfect harmony!) I wish you to find mutual understanding with your sweetheart and be happy!.

GoodEnough

04-18-15, 15:58

So, I wonder, "magic bride" what are you doing on this forum if things are so great at home? Perhaps advertising this website?

.Maybe she's practicing punctuation! Do you think!

NastyaHeyYo

04-20-15, 08:07

Dear all,

Don't be so rude! Why so skeptic? I hardly can tell that I believe in love or people, who can devote themselves to others. But. Who are we if not humans? Isn't love a feeling worth experiencing? We're just afraid to be open and sincere. That's rather a miracle. To be in love in our world. I'd just like to change that. That's all.

Great Muta

04-23-15, 18:13

I've been trying to hit up some girls on online dating sites with little success.

Tried DIA, FC and PL.

The only ones into me are usually older than me, not attractive, or have a kid.

Is PH much better in person or what?I haven't been to the Phil yet, but if you guys know me, I've been around the game for a long time. My stash of non-P4P girls is the best it has ever been and I've become extremely picky, which makes it even better. But I like big tits, so I have different standards. No tits = no Muta.

Age should not be a problem. Younger girls are 100 x easier to find than older ones. I don't know what you are doing, but you are doing something wrong. You should be able to find many girls in the 24-28 year old range no problem. Most of my current crop is around 26-28 with some being in their 40s, because I like my milfs.

Attractiveness is subjective. Most of the people here prefer thin spinners. I hate thin spinners. I like big titty girls and like my girls thick. Girls without big tits are barely even girls to me.

Girls with kids is the bad side of Filipino girls, but that's what makes things the way they are. Most filipino girls have kids ASAP. If they didn't have kids, they'd have BF's or husbands already. It really don't matter how many kids they have unless you are marrying them though. Tons of my girls have kids, but I ain't their kids father and I'm never going to be. As long as they send me the naked pics and fuck me on demand, I don't care. Hot girls are still hot after having kids.

I just recommend doing what I do. Always keep looking, never settle for substandard quality, find as many as you can, use every website you can and make it more of a lifestyle than a hobby. Girls don't care what you look like there nor what your age is. Oh and don't even try to be honest or expect them to be honest.

And totally random and out of the blue, but I need to find me a pimpette. Finding big tits takes time.

D Cups

04-23-15, 18:42

Great Muta

04-23-15, 18:49

Geez I don't know how you can give advice on the PI if you have never been there. You are right, though, about finding big boob Filipinas. They are there but they are rare. It's my preference, too (obviously). For Imaguy: ya, a lot of the DIAs have kids and that's why they're working part-time P4 P. There are some real gems if you keep looking online and go there to see for yourself.

.D-Cups, you the man and you are an inspiration to me along with WestCoast and DS(and I ain't got shit on y'all), and you're not wrong on me not being there. I'm young, just got my first real job and spend most of my time tracking down new big titty girls online or keeping the ones I got.

DIA is cool, but I usually end up messaging a brand new girl or 10 everyday through other sites. All I can say is that if it has people on it, it's a good site to use.

X Man

05-10-15, 07:17

Nightrider1

05-10-15, 10:39

Chat rooms & Pen Pals has been unusually quiet lately.

She writes on her profile: "I'm back!! I try to block my account HERE!!bec. I THOUGHT I finaly found my special someone here but!!I think he is not serious. ".

Can anyone enlighten me? What on earth do they mean by "serious"? I translate it very loosely to mean, "I'm serious about going to the Philippines. " Good enough for me. Does it work for you? X Man.I always meet my Filipinas from chats on either DIA or Cherry blossoms and from my experience in 30 trips to Phil since 2004 what they mean by " serious " is a guy who wants to have an exclusive relationship with them and not meet or be interested in anyone but them. Of course this flies in the face to any monger who wants to bed as many girls as possible. What I do right from the first chat is admit I do meet other chatmates on my trips and from force of habit I will continue to do so. But I tell them I would still like to meet them and see how we bond and nobody knows what the future will bring. This seems to placate 90% of the chatmates and they appreciate my honesty. So far this has worked for me.

D Cups

05-10-15, 14:27

Well I am serious about meeting them and banging them. After that my seriousness depends on their bangability, boob size and my availability. I'm very serious about that.

. Of course this flies in the face to any monger who wants to bed as many girls as possible. .

Hutsori

05-11-15, 16:33

Chat rooms & Pen Pals has been unusually quiet lately.

You're right. I think I read the same profile you posted on DIA. The I'm-back-cuz-I-got-fucked-literally-and-figuratively profiles kind of sadden me. But sometimes they are bait, used to lure a guy to rescue them.

I got this charming message: "It took me 1 hour to get the guts to ask this of you and you can say no, don't worry I won't take it against you. Can you be my "friend with benefit" guy? I'm sorry if this is a very forward request, but as I have said earlier you can say no."

X Man

05-22-15, 10:07

She writes, "I don't wan to tmeet for sex because I have done that in the past".

Member #4387

05-26-15, 03:11

Prior to my next Manila arrival I have "worked late at the office" and arranged 45 dates (no I will not go through with them all ofcourse as I think I can only stay 5 days). What hit me this time, as I changed my MO slightly, was that I provided the girls with my exact fake arrival info (in my latest visits I have kept that a secret and only made contacts whith feet on phil soil). Then the funny thing happened as 13 of them did have their bd 1 or 2 days after my arrival. Statistically that has to be a new world record as in with 365 days to choose from I managed to meet 13 out of 45 with bd right after my arrival, hehe.

What most of them forgot was to update their FB's accounts and beeing confronted (only two gems) they claimed that their bd in FB was just artificial. One girl does actually have her bd one day after my arrival but she did not mentioned anything. What a world but it is all good fun.

What I did not tell the girls is that my arrivaldate are all fake and I will put in a delay with the greatest intention. I was actually just doing my small private research for fun and they will be provided the actual arrivaldate at a later stage which will be after their "bd's". Our small pinays realy loves their gifts, that's for sure.

WestCoast1

05-26-15, 04:55

She writes, "I don't wan to tmeet for sex because I have done that in the past".Must be a 'berjin'.

X Man

05-26-15, 15:39

That's interesting. Which online site are you using? I haven't experienced this online so much.

A few years ago in AC I remember that many bargirls gave the birthday line. It was kind of silly after you heard it repeatedly over the course of a few hours of bar hopping. It had mostly disappeared the next time I visited. What's really sad is Christmas. I don't need taxi drivers or anyone else to remind me that it is Christmas. I tell them that I'm agnostic, which seems to disgust them. X.

Prior to my next Manila arrival I have "worked late at the office" and arranged 45 dates (no I will not go through with them all ofcourse as I think I can only stay 5 days). What hit me this time, as I changed my MO slightly, was that I provided the girls with my exact fake arrival info (in my latest visits I have kept that a secret and only made contacts whith feet on phil soil). Then the funny thing happened as 13 of them did have their bd 1 or 2 days after my arrival. Statistically that has to be a new world record as in with 365 days to choose from I managed to meet 13 out of 45 with bd right after my arrival, hehe.

What most of them forgot was to update their FB's accounts and beeing confronted (only two gems) they claimed that their bd in FB was just artificial. One girl does actually have her bd one day after my arrival but she did not mentioned anything. What a world but it is all good fun.

What I did not tell the girls is that my arrivaldate are all fake and I will put in a delay with the greatest intention. I was actually just doing my small private research for fun and they will be provided the actual arrivaldate at a later stage which will be after their "bd's". Our small pinays realy loves their gifts, that's for sure.

Hutsori

05-26-15, 18:13

Christmas. The time of you giving me something.Yowza! I saw your comment's title, thought I lost three months, and now the Xmas season was upon us.

Came across this profile in PL. Refreshingly honest. Empathically so.

I am serious. I need man can support me. I don't need love!. IF YOU ARE FAT OLD I DONT CARE IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND ME THAT WILL BE GREAT TO LEARN LOVE WITH YOU.

Member #4387

05-26-15, 20:57

This, my previous report, comes out from my fakebook account and its messengerservice. It was only a funny observation. Except from that I strongly agree with you that prior to last x mas was terrible with countless "remember my x mas gift, ok". Other observations will be directed to requests following when they smell you arrive by air and the, once again, countless "remember to by me taxfree perfume" and ofcourse the hints "I love chocolate". In most cases I just ignore even if I bring some gifts given to girls putting in an extra effort in the pleasing department. But they are only randomly handed out and with no system behind it.

Sympalogy

06-06-15, 14:50

Ok, so I'm going to take the plunge, and just move to the Philippines cold turkey.

I guess it's time for me to live through my mid-life crisis, and it feels freaking sweet.

I already had my Filipino Cupid account set up. Already paid, and waited for fish to come my way, but now I'm taking a proactive step.

I sent a shitton (that's the scientific name for it, haha) of messages to girls in the parts of the Philippines that I'll be in. It's a bit early, with it being a few months away, but I read from some members that some Filippinas have rules that they have to chat with the guy for some months before they make sweet love to him, so I'm trying to get my introductions and the chit chat part out of the way.

True also that some members said that if you chat with Filippinas for too long, they think you're a "long distance relationship" and start asking for money. So I've already prepared my answer: "I only help the girl I'm in love with. " so that they know that fun and sex comes before the payments.

Of course, in my selection process, I'm focused mostly on girls with big tits, but I guess I love the tits bigger than what is easily found in the Philippines: Girls with the cups or more that I have found after looking through hundreds of profiles I can count them on one hand, and I hope I'll meet at least one of them.

I guess I'm also in the headspace of online dating from other countries because I have the reflex of expecting a few girls to be interested, and feel self conscious about how I look, etc.

Hey, time will tell, this is just that first baby step.

WestCoast1

06-06-15, 19:41

First, you posted this (copy / paste) in two different forums (here and DragonSlayer's).

Ok, so I'm going to take the plunge, and just move to the Philippines cold turkey.

SNIP

Of course, in my selection process, I'm focused mostly on girls with big tits, but I guess I love the tits bigger than what is easily found in the Philippines: Girls with the cups or more that I have found after looking through hundreds of profiles I can count them on one hand, and I hope I'll meet at least one of them.
Ah, this is a contradiction. You prefer girls with bigger chests, but you want to move to SE asia? Please reconsider. The DR or CR might be a better choice. You are moving to a country where you've never visited?

but I read from some members that some Filippinas have rules that they have to chat with the guy for some months before they make sweet love to him, so I'm trying to get my introductions and the chit chat part out of the way.This isn't always true, and you shouldn't count on it. Its easier than you think, and harder than you think. Some girls will lay up with you on the first night, especially if they've gotten to know you in chat / cam. Others will require woo-ing once you have boots on the ground, especially province girls (terribly shy and afraid of the embarrassment of sleeping with a gringo then getting dumped). In fact, many girls will boldly lie to you in chat (culture), promising sex, then she will back out when they meet you (further, shy province girls might even refuse to meet you once you get there).

True also that some members said that if you chat with Filippinas for too long, they think you're a "long distance relationship" and start asking for money. So I've already prepared my answer: "I only help the girl I'm in love with. " so that they know that fun and sex comes before the payments.That's only true sometimes. To make matters worse, if you talk for too long, many girls will think you aren't coming at all (way more guys they chat up never come to phils than actually go). Mosts gents will probably tell you that 3-6 weeks of chatting prior to arrival is plenty.

Sympalogy

06-07-15, 06:38

Ah, this is a contradiction. You prefer girls with bigger chests, but you want to move to SE asia? Please reconsider. The DR or CR might be a better choice. You are moving to a country where you've never visited?What can I say, my taste is Asian girls AND big boobs. I guess life for me is hard.

And yes, moving to a country I never visited before. It's a bit of a personal challenge as well as relying on second hand experience, which sometimes does work (learning from the successes and mistakes of others).

This isn't always true, and you shouldn't count on it. Its easier than you think, and harder than you think.I know. Since you "prohibited" me from copying what I wrote in DragonSlayer's forum (Which is something I noticed people did in Mr Gogo's forum, post in it and the general forum. I did it because DS had been absolutely very helpful to me in planning my next trip, and he never reads the general forum), you would have known what I think on this issue.

I don't mind making mistakes and messing things up. As I said before, it's my "mid life crisis", and I played it too safe for too long, so I want to make up for the lost time and get some excitement, action, good times as well as those harmless problems to solve.

Red Kilt

06-07-15, 07:54

What can I say, my taste is Asian girls AND big boobs. I guess life for me is hard.

And yes, moving to a country I never visited before. It's a bit of a personal challenge as well as relying on second hand experience, which sometimes does work (learning from the successes and mistakes of others).

I know. Since you "prohibited" me from copying what I wrote in DragonSlayer's forum (Which is something I noticed people did in Mr Gogo's forum, post in it and the general forum. I did it because DS had been absolutely very helpful to me in planning my next trip, and he never reads the general forum), you would have known what I think on this issue.

I don't mind making mistakes and messing things up. As I said before, it's my "mid life crisis", and I played it too safe for too long, so I want to make up for the lost time and get some excitement, action, good times as well as those harmless problems to solve.I think you're crazy to decide to move here (to the Philippines) without having ever visited before.

Comments about hot girls being plentiful and ready to play in Davao is one person's view only (DS). Every ISG member you ask will give you a slightly different view.

I have lived in the Philippines for 18 years, with a little over 2 of those years spent in Davao City.

I would rate Davao City very highly as a good place to live, but I certainly would NOT base my decision on the availability of girls for hire and / or fun because the variability in this factor is wide and changes from week to week. Speaking personally, I found that Davao probably had the least "available" girls. There were lots around, but they were not in the game.

An even worse strategy is to base your decision on where to settle on the photos that you see on FC. Pics on dating sites are usually doctored or taken 10 years earlier or not even pics of the girl herself.

I suggest you come here for (say) 6 - 8 weeks. Spend 10 days to 2 weeks in each of Manila, Cebu, Davao and somewhere else (Cagayan de Oro; Iloilo, Bacolod for example) and then decide where you might settle.

WestCoast1

06-07-15, 16:03

I think you're crazy to decide to move here (to the Philippines) without having ever visited before.He acknowledges his craziness (below), but I admire his gusto (ala Don Quixote).

What can I say, my taste is Asian girls AND big boobs. I guess life for me is hard.

And yes, moving to a country I never visited before. It's a bit of a personal challenge as well as relying on second hand experience, which sometimes does work (learning from the successes and mistakes of others).

I don't mind making mistakes and messing things up. As I said before, it's my "mid life crisis", and I played it too safe for too long, so I want to make up for the lost time and get some excitement, action, good times as well as those harmless problems to solve. As RK said, it might be better if you made a few visits first, to see what the place is like. Some of the problems to solve might not be 'harmless'.

I know. Since you "prohibited" me from copying what I wrote in DragonSlayer's forum (Which is something I noticed people did in Mr Gogo's forum, post in it and the general forum. I did it because DS had been absolutely very helpful to me in planning my next trip, and he never reads the general forum), you would have known what I think on this issue.You are not prohibited from posting elsewhere, its just that one post is sufficient. I will PM you with some info.

Sympalogy

06-07-15, 18:34

I think you're crazy to decide to move here (to the Philippines) without having ever visited before.

...

I suggest you come here for (say) 6 - 8 weeks. Spend 10 days to 2 weeks in each of Manila, Cebu, Davao and somewhere else (Cagayan de Oro; Iloilo, Bacolod for example) and then decide where you might settle.

He acknowledges his craziness (below), but I admire his gusto (ala Don Quixote).Thanks guys, I really appreciate the advice and concern. It really means a lot to me.

As I talked about "midlife crisis" and such things, I have unplugged my life and I am now a "location independent" kind of guy (Which was HARD to do, but right now I'll enjoy it however long it lasts).

If I don't like the PI, I can just get the hell out of there on the earliest flight. It's not as crazy as it seems (unless I REALLY have no clue what I'm in for, which is possible).

I chose Davao City for the "normal" girls rather than P4 P. Dragon Slayer's review of Davao City as having some of the prettiest, most plentiful, easiest to score AND best in bed Filipinnas just got me over the edge of indecision into "Screw it, let's do it. ".

Sam 14

06-07-15, 18:54

I think you're crazy to decide to move here (to the Philippines) without having ever visited before.

Comments about hot girls being plentiful and ready to play in Davao is one person's view only (DS). Every ISG member you ask will give you a slightly different view.

I have lived in the Philippines for 18 years, with a little over 2 of those years spent in Davao City.

I would rate Davao City very highly as a good place to live, but I certainly would NOT base my decision on the availability of girls for hire and / or fun because the variability in this factor is wide and changes from week to week. Speaking personally, I found that Davao probably had the least "available" girls. There were lots around, but they were not in the game. Ya RK, you're right, it's crazy. I know first hand because that's what I did.

As RK said, it might be better if you made a few visits first, to see what the place is like. Some of the problems to solve might not be 'harmless'. I been here for more than 2 years and I spent a good half that time looking around for a better place.

Regarding Davao, I tend to agree with RK's remarks more than I do with Dragon Slayer's quote: "Davao has more board feet of prime pussy than any City on Earth!". Although, of course, I respect his opinion. I can sit in a busy mall for an hour or two and not see one, what I would consider, prime pussy. Not any that's available to me, anyway. It doesn't stack up anywhere near what you could find in some Latin American countries for example. Furthermore, most of these girls over the age of 18 are chubby already. And if you want big breasts, for sure she will be fat. Most of these girls, as RK said, are conservative, focused on their studies, busy working, or just otherwise not in the game. It's easy to get a bunch of phone numbers, but not easy to get them to go out. These girls may be friendly and giggle, but are scared of being alone with a gringo for the most part. And as WC correctly wrote, even on the dating sites there's nothing close to a guarantee.

In terms of gorging on fresh seafood every night, there was allot better choice of seafood in my home place. I don't know if this is unique to Davao, or if it's in Philippine tradition. But in Davao, there's less and less food choices as opposed to more. There used to be a Mexican place-It's gone. A few of the places I enjoyed have closed. Morriscos in SM, Ronoldo's, Picabellos, Spirale in Abreeza. Even Claude's has taken things off the menu. I almost had a heart attack when I saw that Bon Appetit was (temporarily) closed.

I'd suggest come have a look first. See if being on the ground breathing diesel smoke, hearing "out of stock sir", getting repeated "I'll text you if I have a tym" texts, and hearing Christmas music for 4 months is the same dream you visioned, as you point and click on pretty faces.

Sorry, probably wrong thread for that.

GoodEnough

06-07-15, 23:29

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the advice and concern. It really means a lot to me.

As I talked about "midlife crisis" and such things, I have unplugged my life and I am now a "location independent" kind of guy (Which was HARD to do, but right now I'll enjoy it however long it lasts).

If I don't like the PI, I can just get the hell out of there on the earliest flight. It's not as crazy as it seems (unless I REALLY have no clue what I'm in for, which is possible).

I chose Davao City for the "normal" girls rather than P4 P. Dragon Slayer's review of Davao City as having some of the prettiest, most plentiful, easiest to score AND best in bed Filipinnas just got me over the edge of indecision into "Screw it, let's do it. ".I can fully relate to the notion of just wanting to get the hell out of wherever you are--geographically and psychologically--and wanting to relocate to anywhere that sounds like a significant improvement. If there are no drastic risks, and if you're free to move on yet again if your first destination doesn't live up to expectations, then the downside isn't very steep. On the other hand Red Kilt, Sam and Westcoast make valid points and I'm not sure that Davao is the ideal first-time destination in the country.

I've now lived in Davao for 11 years, and I find it a great place to live, but I'm in a settled relationship, am not at all motivated by the endless chase for new women, and I agree wholeheartedly with those who say that this is not an ideal or even a particularly good venue for that avocation. For one thing, the commercial venues--bars and discos--are few and those that do exist are fairly seedy and not much fun. For another, compared to Manila or Cebu, this is a more conservative city, and though it's got more than a million inhabitants, it remains in many respects a small town, which means there's less anonymity here for both foreigners and their target population. This doesn't mean that pursuit of the hobby isn't possible, but it's surely more difficult. Finally, this is a place that takes a while to get to know and thus requires some investment of time. The expat community here has grown exponentially during my time here, but again, most of the expats whom I know are in longer term relationships.

I echo the suggestion of moving around for a while before you settle in a quasi-permanent destination. I'd start with Manila if for no other reason than to indulge in a two or three week shagging frenzy if that's your primary motivation. It's easy, the choices are endless, and the anonymity is ensured. Since Manila is huge, you can also easily take two or three weeks exploring different areas of the place. Once you've finished there, then move on perhaps to Cebu, Davao, maybe Cagayan de Oro or the Visayas, all of which have different characters.

If you do get down to Davao, send me a PM, and I'd be happy to show you around.

GE.

Sammon

06-08-15, 00:13

GoodEnough

06-08-15, 00:26

Having had girlfriends who live outside major cities like Cebu and Manila and sex destinations like AC I can tell you that most girls are conservative in the sense that being with a foreigner brands them as loose women unless they are married to one. This does not mean the girls are not willing. Trick is to do it anonymously. Settling anywhere in the world for the availability of women for sex is the wrong way to go about it. You need to look at other things important to you like expat friends who you need, accommodation, your budget, healthcare etc. Certainly you do not wasn't to live in an area where power is spotty.

Girls are available if you have right stuff to flaunt and right attitude.Spot on Sammon. From the criteria you listed, Davao isn't a bad choice. It's got a new power plant coming on line in a month or two, and that should eliminate any residual spottiness in the Power sector, it's got decent health care options for most normal problems, and it's a well governed / managed city.

GE.

Sympalogy

06-08-15, 16:05

Thanks guys for all the valid points, and I'm not going to be stubborn about this. I'll give Davao a few weeks and if it doesn't live up to expectation, Cebu is an hour away.

I would have chosen Cebu, but my impression is that Davao is a better choice because: (1) There are less foreigners, so not much competition for normal girls, (2) It is cheaper than Cebu, (3) Because of the mayor, it is probably the safest place in the Philippines.

If getting girls were easier in Cebu, or it cost the same to live there I would have chosen Cebu, no doubt. Every Pinoy I ask tells me the most beautiful women are the Cebuanas AND in FC, the Cebuanas look MUCH better than Dabaweas. But let's roll the dice and see where this thing will take us.

About updating my "dating" situation, I am getting much more response from random Cebuanas and girls from Manila than Dabaweas (the response is dismal). However, the girls who answered were eager, they jumped on Skype cam (so that I check whether the pics are real, already had been "bitten" twice by a girl who used an FHM model pic and another who turned out to be a guy using fake pictures).

Also, I played the "good guy" thing to the hilt, and surprise surprise, the girls START talking to me about sex! One Dabawea, out of nowhere, told me how much she loves to eat cum. One Cebuana told me that she is "liberated" and not like the other Philippinas who are bad in bed. I'm like "wow, I did not expect Philippinas to be that forward", although I enjoyed every second of it.

And although it may seem they're doing that so that I send them some "help money", maybe they are hoping for it in the future because the first thing I tell them is that I'll only be very generous with the girl I will fall in love with because too many girls ask me for money, so they either leave me be or they don't do it.

I expect to like the Philippines because I like Pinays (My own taste in them is to have long black hair, full lips, but lighter skin, which seems to exist more in Manila and Cebu FC girls than Davao), because I will be able to live nicely on the okay money I'm getting from my new online venture (that's why it's good for me to now have "free pussy" ) and if Davao is not my pussy heaven, I'll have hard choices to make but they won't be impossible.

Member #4351

06-08-15, 16:24

(that's why it's good for me to now have "free pussy" ) Yet another sex shoplifter?

Wicked Roger

06-08-15, 20:09

Yet another sex shoplifter?Probably see him in Cebu walking around Ayala and SM looking for free pussy. It is there trust me (as you know) but would anyone in their right mind want to try it.

As for 'free' pussy well he had clearly read lots of advice on this and I taking fill advantage of naivety and shyness or basically a cousin of a few guys who used to frequent the board boasting but then never did a FR.

WestCoast1

06-08-15, 22:19

Also, I played the "good guy" thing to the hilt, and surprise surprise, the girls START talking to me about sex! One Dabawea, out of nowhere, told me how much she loves to eat cum. One Cebuana told me that she is "liberated" and not like the other Philippinas who are bad in bed. I'm like "wow, I did not expect Philippinas to be that forward", although I enjoyed every second of it.

Its like Forest Gump's box of chocolates: Never know WHAT you're going to get!

WestCoast1

06-08-15, 22:26

Makeupaname

06-09-15, 02:55

"I'll only be very generous with the girl I will fall in love with".

There is no need to play this game with filipinas.

Dg8787

06-09-15, 03:17

Probably see him in Cebu walking around Ayala and SM looking for free pussy. It is there trust me (as you know) but would anyone in their right mind want to try it.

As for 'free' pussy well he had clearly read lots of advice on this and I taking fill advantage of naivety and shyness or basically a cousin of a few guys who used to frequent the board boasting but then never did a FR.Just what the Filipinas need, another basket case preying on them! Leading the charge screaming YOLO! Haha.

How do you live "nicely" on okay income having to survive on free pussy? Another pooreigner hitting the shores.

Random99

06-09-15, 07:54

Ok, so I'm going to take the plunge, and just move to the Philippines cold turkey.

I guess it's time for me to live through my mid-life crisis, and it feels freaking sweet.Sympalogy,

I too have moved to the Philippines recently and in a similar working situation. I work via my computer and not tied to 1 specific location.

I think everyone is just trying to give some friendly advice since 1st hand experience is invaluable. I'll chip in as well. I'm sure the prospect of chasing girls / pussy sounds like a dream world. My guess that it might get old over time. Since you haven't been to PI before, just set your expectations low to not get disappointed and be flexible when you arrive here. Personally for me, it was important to find a nice apartment so when I am working inside, I am in a good state of mind. Also, I wanted a central location to avoid having to buy a car and somewhere I can reasonably walk around. I focused more on giving my new life normalcy to make the transition as smooth and successful as possible. If you lay a good groundwork before coming, you won't have to then jump on a plane and leave.

With that said, I know all people are different and can adapt probably better than me.

Sympalogy

06-09-15, 12:22

Thanks guys for the comments, good and bad.

So, let me continue: So far, "Free Pussy" is turning out to be some of the most expensive pussy I will ever get. Just the hours spent chatting, and Skype "verifying", in these two days would get me some Colombian model girl in Cali, but hey, it's a test. I always have wanted to feel the girls wanting me "for me" (Whatever that means).

Anyway, lots of chatting, the girls are really kind, with good hearts, and I understand D_33 when he said that if there are girls who would make better wives than Peruanas in this whole wide world, it is Filipinas. It sounds exactly right.

Also, so far, the Cebuanas have been beating it in looks compared to Davao city girls. They look good, and with a bit of CJ Sparrow's plan to take the girl to a spa, to a hair stylist and shopping, some would look like real bombshells.

I know you guys think I just want to take advantage of Filipinas, I know me, and it may seem that way but it is not. I actually do have a lot to offer as a person, and I am not stingy, but is it so wrong to "pay" through gifts, nights out and shopping rather than paying upfront? I mean, is it wrong for a man to do something he didn't do before and was curious about?

Judge me if you want. I learned long ago that there are two choices in life: you either do what pleases other people, and be unhappy; or put your balls on the line, dare to be different, do things in the "wrong" way, and at least be happy because I am doing what I believe in.

Anyway, I know you guys also will tell me this is a lie, but the girls keep on telling me "You're so handsome". They also get this wide smile, puppy eyes, and that "white man smash" that happens in Tokyo. I am happy I can have that effect on them.

Finally, I feel misunderstood by you guys for some reason. I feel you picture me as a 70 years old man patrolling the streets looking for an 18 year old naive girl to pump and dump, counting his pennies and laughing as he breaks her heart, while I am simply a guy who came out of a depressing and sad 8 years old long relationship, and just want to know how it feels to date around and to have a Filipina girlfriend. I just want to have a good answer for when they ask me for money on FC, so I say "only generous with the girl I love".

Anyway, you guys have been so helpful, I won't hold this misunderstanding against you.

Sammon

06-09-15, 13:04

I know you guys think I just want to take advantage of Filipinas, I know me, and it may seem that way but it is not. I actually do have a lot to offer as a person, and I am not stingy, but is it so wrong to "pay" through gifts, nights out and shopping rather than paying upfront? I mean, is it wrong for a man to do something he didn't do before and was curious about?

Judge me if you want. I learned long ago that there are two choices in life: you either do what pleases other people, and be unhappy; or put your balls on the line, dare to be different, do things in the "wrong" way, and at least be happy because I am doing what I believe in.

Let me tell you people have always taken advantage of people in one way or another. In our world of mongering we do take take advantage of girls through money, their dreams of better life, their dreams of long term support, their dreams of helping family and whatever they dream of. In majority of cases their dreams fail and they settle for just money.

If you think you just want to give gifts and get into their pants you are mistaken. First give them money whether they are call girls or whether they are innocent girls? After that if you feel generous treat them with dinner and gifts. Do not be delusional. These girls need money more than anything. It is true they will not come out and ask money for the fear of being branded as sex workers.

Yes, you can do whatever you want but there are some rules to follow when you are mongering.

Sympalogy

06-09-15, 19:57

Well, I don't know how you guys are doing the Filipino Cupid thing, with DS telling me to at least chat with 50 girls, but I have 10 now on Skype and they are driving me apeshit crazy!

I mean, just after 24 hours, girls DEMANDING I tell them I love them (which I won't do, like wtf), heard all kinds of sob stories, girls texting and calling me at Skype (it's on my phone) at all kinds of hours, and then getting "jealous" if I don't answer, It's DRAMA city.

I found some girl with AMAZING big boobs (she's still milking and breast-feeding her baby, that is why; because she has a twin sister who has a see cup tits, but this girl has AT LEAST Double DS), and she calls me to introduce me to her baby and her parents, and showing me her drunk father and shit like that, and she doesn't understand that I'm working, and she DEMANDS I get jealous by telling me about her friends' foreign boyfriends, and all kinds of drama that I am not into, and got no time for. Sad thing it seems I will lose the pussy if I didn't give them the time of day, and it's a weakness that is messing with me.

I mean, the last time I went on a mongering trip, I had 26 girls in 30 days (had to take some days off). It was in Rio de Janeiro. (Actually, that was before last trip. Last trip was to Barcelona.).

Just based on these first days, I'd be LUCKY if I could get with 5 girls, if not just 2. I make things clear, never make lofty promises to the girls, or tell them I love them, just that I am looking for a GF and want to get to know them (which is true, doesn't mean I don't want to try different girls to find one that I like the most), but they already, since day 1, "establish" themselves as my GF, future wife, and DEMAND I tell them I love them, like wtf?

Also, so many sob stories and asking for money (especially by girls who say they are Virgins). I talked to a girl who is 19, a teacher in a primary school, and freaking BEAUTIFUL. You'd think she's a tiny version of Sofa Vergara with a great full see cup and a bubbly and kind personality, and she is asking me for $100 help for her grandfather, and getting all tearful and supplicating, and it freaking breaks my heart. She's a virgin, so I'm moving on, but I asked her for proof of what she said (which is pretty bad), and if so, I'm going to do the rookie stupid mistake of helping her grandfather. I cannot be cruel enough to not do something about it because, well, why should she sell her virginity or something like that just so that her grandfather would have less pain as he dies?

If it's a lie, then it will be a great learning experience so that: (1) those guys who say the Filipinas are naive will be proven wrong, they are WAY more powerful than the men you think "prey" on them, and much more cunning; and (2) it teaches me that a sob story could be this believable by a girl who really is a good person is just that, a scheme to extract money. It will be good for me.

So far, this "dating" thing ain't what it's cracked up to be. If things continue this way, I'll just go back to my tried and true pay for play method, and know this is not for me.

Some guy said we pay the girls to leave. I say we pay them to leave AND to STFU. LOL.

Again, if anything said in this report offended anyone, always remember that words are signposts, and that writing doesn't convey the whole nuances. I respect and love people, and I value all people highly whether from the US, Philippines, Nigeria or Venezuela, and I treat everyone with kindness and good intentions. Still, I am a man, and genetically, I am programmed to want sexual variety.

So, if you either think I'm pumping and dumping OR I lie to the girls, I am neither of those. Sad that I have to say such clarifications since people here are so used to weirdos that they expect anyone new to this part of the world to be that way.

The girls are WAY smarter than you expect, and let them use their own judgements. I know for a fact that women can read men MUCH better than you and I ever will be able to. So let millions of years of evolution work their magic, and if I'm a "fake", they'll expose me soon enough.

I might get my reputation ruined with the girls no matter how hard I try to make things clear and because of the lack of anonymity, but hey, it will end up being a nice story to tell.

I always remember this: on my deathbed, I will not regret my mistakes, I will regret the things I wanted to do but did not dare do. I want to reduce the number of those as much as I can.

Member #4351

06-09-15, 21:56

Those who know and have a life off-line have always said on this forum; start the dating site search two weeks before arrival.

Random99

06-10-15, 04:11

Well, I don't know how you guys are doing the Filipino Cupid thing, with DS telling me to at least chat with 50 girls, but I have 10 now on Skype and they are driving me apeshit crazy!I am on FC, but am selective on whom I email. Most short-timers who will only be in the country for 1-2 weeks need to make as many contacts and sort through them later. If you are here for an extended period of time, why not slow things down and be semi-selective?

Also, so many sob stories and asking for money (especially by girls who say they are Virgins). I talked to a girl who is 19, a teacher in a primary school, and freaking BEAUTIFUL. You'd think she's a tiny version of Sofa Vergara with a great full see cup and a bubbly and kind personality, and she is asking me for $100 help for her grandfather, and getting all tearful and supplicating, and it freaking breaks my heart. She's a virgin, so I'm moving on, but I asked her for proof of what she said (which is pretty bad), and if so, I'm going to do the rookie stupid mistake of helping her grandfather. I cannot be cruel enough to not do something about it because, well, why should she sell her virginity or something like that just so that her grandfather would have less pain as he dies?Really? I think you know the answer to this and there is no reason to believe a story of someone that you have chatted with a few times online.

So far, this "dating" thing ain't what it's cracked up to be. If things continue this way, I'll just go back to my tried and true pay for play method, and know this is not for me.You may want to re-think your locale as others have stated Davao is not a great pay for play.

I might get my reputation ruined with the girls no matter how hard I try to make things clear and because of the lack of anonymity, but hey, it will end up being a nice story to tell.
Again a bit of free advice that you may want to ignore. If you are going to be in 1 location for an extended period of time, you might want to be a little more cautious and patient. If you were just visiting, you could switch hotels and / or you'll be leaving the country. The last thing you'll want as an extended visitor is girls you have dumped showing up at your apartment causing trouble for you. While I have met a few people this time, I've been pretty specific about being new to the area, very busy with work and not ready for a long-term girlfriend. I am trying to avoid any longer term headaches especially if I meet someone that worth more than a few nights hookup.

SteveC

06-10-15, 04:58

Those who know and have a life off-line have always said on this forum; start the dating site search two weeks before arrival.Anyone considering using dating sites read this three times and remember it. I wish I"the seen this advice before I signed up.

Sympalogy

06-10-15, 08:44

Well, life should be an adventure, with its ups and downs.

And yes, I agree 100% that "hunting" on FC should start two weeks before the trip date, not 2 months like in my case.

Well, I had a relaxing 24 hours. Since I posted that report, I logged off completely from all "dating related" apps, and I am having some good and peaceful time to focus on my work and on my life offline.

Ahh, it feels so wonderful.

Meanwhile, the girls are probably sending messages non stop, and getting all uptight that nobody is answering. But hey, I've got to establish boundaries and have my priorities right.

Right now, the girls are priority 3. Number 1 is getting my new business off the ground, and number 2 is taking care of my health (starting to work out and eat healthy etc).

I'm also starting to let go of the "big titty" thing, and lower my expectations. Just go for the petite Asian spinner type so that I have the full Asian experience, to the hilt. At least there is a ton more choices.

Also, you guys convinced me about that "not being stuck in one place thing". Instead of committing in rent etc, I'll move around as soon as I don't like some place, and we'll see where life takes us.

Finally, about the Pinay in need, it's not too bad of a thing, and my comment on "rookie mistake" was actually a reference to some PM I received (good pm, no doubt).

I just set aside every month a budget to help people in need and for charity, I had been doing it for years, so if she proves her case, it will be a natural thing: a human being helping another human being with no ulterior motives. I wouldn't help someone in need just to get something out of it, I guess it's a flaw of mine.

Anyway, from now on, I'll live this dating thing on my terms. If it doesn't work out or the girls don't like my boundaries, well tough luck.

Life is an adventure, and you can only appreciate the good times because of living through the bad times.

Sympalogy

06-10-15, 14:56

Ahh, the day started well.

Today, I was able to wake up at peace, took my time to bond with my Trumper's Almond, my Rooney and my Merkur for some nice slow wetshaving goodness, and also was able to put some good hours of work in.

Surprisingly, the girls are taking this "boundaries" thing better than I expected. They made a fuss at first, but then they know that I'll only log in when I want to talk, otherwise, I am busy.

They call me now "busy man". Haha.

Only the girl with the biggest boobs is being all butthurt about it, but all I did is give her an ultimatum: either fall in line, or bye bye. I will not sacrifice my peace of mine for some boobs.

And it comes from something I learned 10 years ago, and found it to work consistently. It was a fateful night in HELP, Rio de Janeiro were I just arrived and went out "needing" to bring a girl in.

It was a bad night.

And I noticed a trend, the more I need to bring a girl with me, the more sloppy I get with interviewing them, and end up regretting it.

And I tried to do the 180 degree opposite: I went out every night PLANNING to go home alone unless a girl really catches my attention and passes my interview with flying colors.

That's when I fell in love with Brazil.

So, now, this is what I'll do on this trip. I'll go planning to have my right hand as a companion unless a girl stands out so much, I make room for her. They'll get whatever chat time I feel like giving them, and if I don't feel like it, the hell with it.

It's also related to the Buddhist view on suffering: human beings suffer not because of external things, but because we twist ourselves on good things trying to make them last, and we squeeze ourselves trying to avoid pain. That resistance is more painful than the "pain" itself, and being enlightened is actually freeing yourself from those natural instincts 100%. Anyone who is enlightened feels whatever you and I feel, they just have 0 resistance for it, so it never leads to suffering.

Anyway, "fate" is already rewarding me for this, as it did so many times before.

Now, this big boobs lactating 24 years old drama queen mom is all pissed off that I'm not at her beck and call, meanwhile, an 18 years old super cute girl with tight body (no chubbiness) and AT LEAST E cup boobs (in her pictures, I can see she's not wearing a bra, probably cannot find a bra her size in the PI) who is kind and allows me to take my time is taking an interest in me.

I like it.

Random99

06-10-15, 18:53

Right now, the girls are priority 3. Number 1 is getting my new business off the ground, and number 2 is taking care of my health (starting to work out and eat healthy etc).I'm not going to comment on your chat stuff, but it does seem that you enjoy the drama. Haha.

If you are seriously going to PI, I'd get your banking / finances in order. Mostly people aren't going to feel comfortable carrying around enough cash to last them for a year.

Wiring money to PI: HSBC Premier if you have $100 K in assets would be free (2) Bank of America: will charge roughly $60 / wire. Both can be done online after completing requirements (HSBC are a lot more than BofA).

ATM: Schwab has free international withdraws if you have a checking + investor account. Very small accounts may be cancelled, but I'm not sure what the threshold would be.

Credit cards: Card companies are replacing current cards now (with a Fall deadline) with the new / old chip technology. You might want to call the companies now and get a replacement. I've had 1 expire since I've been here.

Burner credit card: I'm using a low limit fx trans free credit card for most of my transactions. If it gets compromised, it's no big deal. Some credit cards may have a junk fx rate though (haven't bothered to double check yet).

Red Kilt

06-11-15, 02:24

I'm not going to comment on your chat stuff, but it does seem that you enjoy the drama. Haha.

That was exactly my feeling too Random.

I think poor Sympalogy is so immersed (wallowing) in his own dramas that he doesn't realize he is guilty of being the biggest drama queen of all.

I have stopped reading his posts now.

I don't need to read every thought bubble that he is documenting as he plans his big "adventure", especially as he seemed to initially dismiss all our suggestions only to suddenly realize we all might be right after all.

AskeAske

06-11-15, 08:07

That was exactly my feeling too Random.

I think poor Sympalogy is so immersed (wallowing) in his own dramas that he doesn't realize he is guilty of being the biggest drama queen of all.

I have stopped reading his posts now.

I don't need to read every thought bubble that he is documenting as he plans his big "adventure", especially as he seemed to initially dismiss all our suggestions only to suddenly realize we all might be right after all.It will be interesting to see if Sympalogy come up from his mother's basement and out on the great adventure. There is a big leap from feeling like a hero on dating sites and then experience the real world.

Sympalogy

06-11-15, 08:52

Do you know the 80/20 rule?

There have been studies on the behavior of world class experts, and they found that this rule in even more pronounced with them: that just 5% of their actions give 95% of the results.

In the same way, in my case, 95% of the drama was coming from 5% of the girls (the big boobed mommie).

So since I told her that she is not what I'm looking for, life had been much more peaceful.

Also, I was mostly chatting with girls who are 24 years old and up. It's because they have much bigger boobs than the younger ones (when I search on FC for "My Best Feature: My Chest", that is what comes up.).

Then, yesterday, I tried my luck with the 18 and 19 years old, and it feels like being transported to another dimension!

First, the girls are so shy, they get speechless on cam and cover their mouths and faces in a very cute way.

One of them was shy she only showed me her lips. I told her she was being too sexy, she should stop it, and it was so sexy it made me hard.

So I asked her: "Do you want to see my cock?" She said "Yes" and from then on, she masturbated for me on camera, watching me do the same, and when she came, her fingers were so wet, and she started licking them and told me she wishes it were my cum. Then, of course, she went back to shy again.

You know, when girls have good sex, they get into a trance. Nothing else in the world matters. And after they cum, they are in a very vulnerable state where if you say something that normally may be "okay", it would hurt them, especially with so much sLUut shaming that they have to live through, it's harder for them than men.

So I told her the truth: that I respect her and that it was a great and intimate moment we shared together, and that it was amazing. It was.

P.S. Do you guys know about Jungian psychology? There is the concept of Shadow, which is that what we hate in other people is actually something we have in ourselves and we are trying to repress it.

Your "criticism" of me just means that whatever you are projecting on me is a part of you that you should deal with.

Second, it doesn't promote honesty on this board. When lurkers see this, they fear this public humiliation (which is one of the worst instinctive evolutionary fears of human beings, to be cast out from the herd), and they will either never post, or post some vanilla overview with lots of details omitted.

I personally do not need your approval to know who I am: I have mongered on 4 continents, I have spent as low as $5 and as high as $600 for 1 hour with a girl.

I'm just trying something new, and being 100% transparent about it.

Can I live?

Hutsori

06-11-15, 09:58

Well, I don't know how you guys are doing the Filipino Cupid thing, with DS telling me to at least chat with 50 girls, but I have 10 now on Skype and they are driving me apeshit crazy!
You're fresh meat. After a while your profile becomes known, you've exchanged messages with many, and it settles down. If you rotate through a few dating sites, such as 1 month DIA, 1 month PL, 1 month Tagged it keeps thing fresher. Since FC is a paid subscription site you ought to maximise your use of it. Make sure you haven't been enrolled in auto-renewal if it is not your intention to use it for months on end.

Nice Guy 99

06-11-15, 16:45

I asked her: "Do you want to see my cock?" She said "Yes" and from then on, she masturbated for me on camera, watching me do the same, and when she came, her fingers were so wet, and she started licking them and told me she wishes it were my cum. Then, of course, she went back to shy again.

I take it you are aware of the cyber sex blackmail scam where they record you sexing with the girl on cam and then threaten to provide the resulting video to others in your life unless you pay.

Sympalogy

06-12-15, 04:33

Ok, I'll stop posting since I'm unwelcome here.

Dg8787

06-12-15, 05:01

Ok, I'll stop posting since I'm unwelcome here.I don't mind your posts. I can excersise my free will to skip over them if I want to.

I think your posts are pretty honest, like: free pussy can be pretty expensive!

Random99

06-14-15, 08:05

Ebauche

06-15-15, 01:18

I would say it's weird, but everyone has their own "angle". I guess it goes both ways for males and females.Fidelity for overseas pinays (and the vast majority of Philippine citizens working overseas and sending home remittances are female) is rather fluid. They usually have a relationship back home, often a spouse, often children. But they work overseas and go years at a stretch without getting home to their loved ones. And the get lonely, as any of us would. And pinays are astoundingly able to compartmentalize, having different facets of the same existence coexist simultaneously, and be able to completely justify different aspects that are obviously incompatible.

So, they can be in a multi-year, serious, loving relationship back home, and be looking for a serious, loving relationship where they are working. Or they could be looking for a ripping good fuck. And in their minds it is perfectly understandable, acceptable, justifiable, and normal.

That's an overseas pinay's superpower, and we should thank god for it.

Dg8787

06-15-15, 04:46

Engine Driver

06-15-15, 05:54

I would say it's weird, but everyone has their own "angle". I guess it goes both ways for males and females.

Here's a person on DIA:

https://www.dateinasia.com/stephanie_015

Here's her FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/stephanie.0151?fref=ts

(Her post on Jun 9th says she's been in a relationship for 6 years.) I'm guessing she'll either keep her filipino boyfriend on the side or dump him if she can marry up.

(or someone is using her pic / details for the dating site.)You know it's a game and she knows it's a game, so what's the harm? Is every punter who arrives each day at NAIA with the sole intention of banging 30 Pinays he found on FC / DIA being perfectly honest with each of them? I bet he's got a wife, GF, kids, a Labrador, a mortgage and a job he hates back home in Sydney, Denver or Manchester when he pledges undying love to his instant Pinay sweetheart. I'm sure his profile has as many holes in it as hers.

He's looking for sex with a young chick and she wants an escape from her humdrum life. She can get treated well on a date, perhaps some pocket money or gifts, with may be a slight chance of marriage to a foreigner. Everyone wins. Move on.

Random99

06-15-15, 13:58

You may lack understanding of this girl. I don't understand your need to post her picture and out her. What was your purpose or angle for this?My angle that it is a discussion board about Chat Rooms & Pen Pals. Both links are public information. Eh? She posted her name on the DIA profile. (DIA is a free site which has no barriers to signing up.)

X Man

06-16-15, 12:31

R99, you make a good point. When I asked ISG to create the Chat / pen pals thread many years ago, it was my naive hope that guys would share info on the chat gals for the common good. Of course many do, but the info is typically via PM with people you trust. I didn't expect that result, but I now see the wisdom of it.

I have received great DIA+ info from various people here, but you have to accept that there are some lurkers who will be happy to create mischief. Worst case scenario, lets just say that some DIA rogue did copy the picture from a random Filipina FB page. With your links, dozens, or maybe hundreds of guys will do what I did. I checked out her DIA and FB pages. Then I hit the boyfriends FB page, not to mention a few cute ladies in the "friends" list. My curiosity sated, I went on my way. But maybe a few lurkers contact the BF. A few others accuse the gal of deception. It doesn't take much imagination to see how this will create chaos and grief for some couple that had never heard of DIA.

Okay, that was a worst case scenario. How about a good case scenario (for us)? She just found out her long time BF cheated on her and she has signed up to DIA to get a few naughty shags herself. Sounds delicious. But suddenly she gets a deluge of visitors. Like me, some don't send a message. Those that do are rude or disrespectful or juvenile. She closes her profile.

R99, I enjoyed your post. Your purpose and angle seemed clear to me. You were just informing ISG folks of the possibility of some duplicitous female.

My angle that it is a discussion board about Chat Rooms & Pen Pals. Both links are public information. Eh? She posted her name on the DIA profile. (DIA is a free site which has no barriers to signing up.)

Random99

06-16-15, 15:04

R99, you make a good point. When I asked ISG to create the Chat / pen pals thread many years ago, it was my naive hope that guys would share info on the chat gals for the common good. Of course many do, but the info is typically via PM with people you trust. I didn't expect that result, but I now see the wisdom of it.

I have received great DIA+ info from various people here, but you have to accept that there are some lurkers who will be happy to create mischief. Worst case scenario, lets just say that some DIA rogue did copy the picture from a random Filipina FB page. With your links, dozens, or maybe hundreds of guys will do what I did. I checked out her DIA and FB pages. Then I hit the boyfriends FB page, not to mention a few cute ladies in the "friends" list. My curiosity sated, I went on my way. But maybe a few lurkers contact the BF. A few others accuse the gal of deception. It doesn't take much imagination to see how this will create chaos and grief for some couple that had never heard of DIA.

Okay, that was a worst case scenario. How about a good case scenario (for us)? She just found out her long time BF cheated on her and she has signed up to DIA to get a few naughty shags herself. Sounds delicious. But suddenly she gets a deluge of visitors. Like me, some don't send a message. Those that do are rude or disrespectful or juvenile. She closes her profile.

R99, I enjoyed your post. Your purpose and angle seemed clear to me. You were just informing ISG folks of the possibility of some duplicitous female.Yeah. It's hard to read people's intent via the internet. Actually, I was really careful about who and what I would post on ISG.

For example: (1) If I was chatting with someone and they gave me their FB page privately, I wouldn't post that information. (2) Did a little sleuth work that took a little more time, maybe with email addresses or google photo etc, I wouldn't post that information either.

Personally, right or wrong, I posted that example because she clearly had her full name on the DIA page and anyone (and I'm sure many have) could copy and paste her name in FB. There are other examples of this that I have discovered via Viber (aka person states she doesn't have FB, but gives me her Viber number. Viber has full name. Copy and paste into FB with a page that states "engaged". There are several other examples that I won't mention.

LOL, the chick is in Iraq. No one wants pussy that bad to go there (at least me).