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[Nice Guy 99]

But now. What happened to me just now:

4 months ago I got kicked off from account A. Then few weeks later opened account be. Got kicked off 2 days ago. Clicked on the link that I forgot my password for be. Today I got a mail, related to the old account A, which was closed 4 months ago: "You required your password? Here it is. Hope to see you again soon on DIA".

Is that a digital fuck up or what? They are smart but not sooo. .I have had similar experiences as have some girls I know. I think the initial kick is automated and then eventually a human checks and sometimes reverses the boot. One of the triggers is complaints by others so be careful how you brush off the 60 year old princesses.

[Capt Munch]

One of the triggers is complaints by others so be careful how you brush off the 60 year old princesses.So true. . . I managed to upset off one of these "Princesses" by suggesting that if she HAD read my profile. . . And urged her to do so.

1. She would have learned that my search was for an entirely different age group.

2. Where I was located in relation to where she was.

She promptly got her LOLA panties in a "wad" and blocked me.

With that, my STELLAR (3 stars) account went into the realms of ordinary DIA citizen.

I have NOT lost my account but the results of a member blocking your profile and the subsequent demotion has to be also an automated process also.

I keep it clean. . . And even eliminated the line I used to have in there "that I am NOT interested in ladybois".

[Pinaypounder]

Do you know the 80/20 rule?

There have been studies on the behavior of world class experts, and they found that this rule in even more pronounced with them: that just 5% of their actions give 95% of the results.

In the same way, in my case, 95% of the drama was coming from 5% of the girls (the big boobed mommie).

So since I told her that she is not what I'm looking for, life had been much more peaceful.

Also, I was mostly chatting with girls who are 24 years old and up. It's because they have much bigger boobs than the younger ones (when I search on FC for "My Best Feature: My Chest", that is what comes up.).

Then, yesterday, I tried my luck with the 18 and 19 years old, and it feels like being transported to another dimension!

First, the girls are so shy, they get speechless on cam and cover their mouths and faces in a very cute way.

One of them was shy she only showed me her lips. I told her she was being too sexy, she should stop it, and it was so sexy it made me hard.

So I asked her: "Do you want to see my cock?" She said "Yes" and from then on, she masturbated for me on camera, watching me do the same, and when she came, her fingers were so wet, and she started licking them and told me she wishes it were my cum. Then, of course, she went back to shy again.

You know, when girls have good sex, they get into a trance. Nothing else in the world matters. And after they cum, they are in a very vulnerable state where if you say something that normally may be "okay", it would hurt them, especially with so much sLUut shaming that they have to live through, it's harder for them than men.

So I told her the truth: that I respect her and that it was a great and intimate moment we shared together, and that it was amazing. It was.

P.S. Do you guys know about Jungian psychology? There is the concept of Shadow, which is that what we hate in other people is actually something we have in ourselves and we are trying to repress it.

Your "criticism" of me just means that whatever you are projecting on me is a part of you that you should deal with.

Second, it doesn't promote honesty on this board. When lurkers see this, they fear this public humiliation (which is one of the worst instinctive evolutionary fears of human beings, to be cast out from the herd), and they will either never post, or post some vanilla overview with lots of details omitted.

I personally do not need your approval to know who I am: I have mongered on 4 continents, I have spent as low as $5 and as high as $600 for 1 hour with a girl.

I'm just trying something new, and being 100% transparent about it.

Can I live?I have done the same with the same transparency and had epic events and then been shut out. I like to think I can pick the easy ones but there is no logic or consistency I know many on DIA are simply hookers with hearsts but when I just want room service minus the romance I can never find the right girl.

It is fun to find an online cyber sex gall though! My new GF seems to think it is not right!

WTF.

PP.

[SteelBaton]

Ok, I'll stop posting since I'm unwelcome here.I just discovered this thread. This is fascinating and I applaude you for going all in on this idea of yours. Too few do that. Not sure I'm cut out for 24 x7 online dating, but I love reading your experiences. And, I think the bros on the forum have generally been helpful and appreciative. There are always a few trolls who take their jollies by flaming somebody from the privacy of their little hole. Pay them no heed.

What's the latest?

[Commonglass]

I finally got tired of the 6's and 7's and went hunting for bigger game. I found it. A stunning 9, educated and a three-hole-wonder. Unfortunately, she has made a lot of bad choices and appears emotionally unstable. Perhaps she can be rehabilitated and I can become one of the guys I've been envying.

If anyone knows a good psychologist in Manila that I can engage for her, please PM me.

[Member #4387]

I finally got tired of the 6's and 7's and went hunting for bigger game. I found it. A stunning 9, educated and a three-hole-wonder. Unfortunately, she has made a lot of bad choices and appears emotionally unstable. Perhaps she can be rehabilitated and I can become one of the guys I've been envying.

If anyone knows a good psychologist in Manila that I can engage for her, please PM me.3 holer is interesting in general terms. I am a good psychologist.

[Wicked Roger]

3 holer is interesting in general terms. I am a good psychologist.Skogis,

I am a better one.

For her treatment / therapy a few session and the couch with a few ISG member would help am sure. And also I am certain you would have volunteers.

Any photos of her CG?

[Commonglass]

She would already be healed. One of our fine members opened her holes, polished her up and made her what she is today (thank you). Another one of our members made her pregnant and jumped town (fucking asshole).

Surely you experience gentlemen have, at least once, entertained the notion of trying to stabilize one of your favorites? So many hot Filipinas, all crazy.


Skogis,

I am a better one.

For her treatment / therapy a few session and the couch with a few ISG member would help am sure. And also I am certain you would have volunteers.

Any photos of her CG?

[LuvAsianTang]

Skogis,

I am a better one.

For her treatment / therapy a few session and the couch with a few ISG member would help am sure. And also I am certain you would have volunteers.

Any photos of her CG?Psychology was my minor in college and I would be more than happy to nurture her back to a healthy libido.

L A T.

[Random99]

One of our fine members opened her holes, polished her up and made her what she is today (thank you). Another one of our members made her pregnant and jumped town (fucking asshole).
Hmm, I am assuming when you say "member" - it was someone from a dating site and not from ISG.

IMO, someone can get jaded and unstable from a local boyfriend just as much from a foreign one. I've met plenty of "pyschos" from the US as well.

[Member #4387]

This very fine morning in between session I was bored so I thought wtf I log into DIA. I just wanted to see how speedy I could get a girl coming over as in a childish test or whatever we like to call it. Long story short, 10 min later, a girl was on her way. She was Makatibased so 45 minutes after logging in we were banging on the floor of my apartment. My friend, as I use his pick, must look trustable as in no money mentioned (I have allways had a better hitrate hitting up girls in the real world so girls tend to forgive me for not using my real face, hehe). She was obviously horny and looked for some fun. She had a tad BG aura above her but I did not investigate this further. A lovely well tuned body on this 19 yo spinner. I gave her some blue ones ofcourse after the deed and she looked shocked. Now I am bored and have time off until 1 pm, 3 pm, 6 pm and the BD girl coming later tonight. It is realy more fun in phils.

[Commonglass]

I think many of us assume that there is relatively low risk in contracting STDs in the Philippines as long as we avoid the true P2 P crowd and stick to the low mileage girls from FC. During my trip last month, I had a huge amount of unprotected sex with the following ladies:

(1) A timid 19 year old who hadn't had sex in a year. I was her second partner ever. She and I still text every day. Low risk.

(2) A 22 year old sexual friends with benefit. Her last partner was a Swiss guy in January. She didn't care enough about me to lie. Low risk.

(3) A 25 year old super-hottie. 4 months pregnant. I hope it wasn't her. Medium risk.

(4) A 22 year old province girl. Active in FC, but it took an act of god to meet with her. I actually had to travel to the province. It's hard to imagine how she could get a lot of mileage like that. Medium risk.

(5) My 19 year old spinner from my trip last year. She looked even skinnier than before when she came to my hotel. And haggard. I was, frankly, nervous about fucking her, that she might be sick. Also, another member here posted her picture in the photo gallery, so that also had me thinking that she might be high mileage. So I had her suck me off and came in her mouth instead. High risk. (Her picture is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1670051&viewfull=1#post1670051).

I just came back from the doctor's office. Non-Gonorrheal Urethritis. My first official STD. Easily treated.

My buddy fared even worse. He fucked only one FC girl during the trip who swore that she hadn't had sex for a year. He brought back chlamydia to his wife and infected her too.

I still had an amazing trip and probably would have done almost everything the same way. However, I wanted to share my experience to add a note of caution for people who think there's little to no risk if they stick to unprotected sex with civilians. My buddy and I were 2/2 on getting STDs from civilians during our brief trip.

[WestCoast1]

(5) My 19 year old spinner from my trip last year. She looked even skinnier than before when she came to my hotel. And haggard. I was, frankly, nervous about fucking her, that she might be sick. Also, another member here posted her picture in the photo gallery, so that also had me thinking that she might be high mileage. So I had her suck me off and came in her mouth instead. High risk. (Her picture is here:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1670051&viewfull=1#post1670051).CG: The link you posted does not go to a specific post (just to the entire page -- page 24 in the PG). Could you specify which post # on that page?

WC.

[KongKing]

Could you specify which post # on that page? WC.A bit of sleuth work and I think it is this one WestCoast: No 7327 from OldJedi.

Cheers.

[Mogwai]

A bit of sleuth work and I think it is this one WestCoast: No 7327 from OldJedi.

Cheers.My guess is #7331 from Asian Rain.

[FreebieFan]

Few weeks back on DIA got a message from a gal in Laguna saying she was going to be visiting Beijing and could I give her some info.

She sent me some pics and was in reasonable shape for a 30 year old, so sensing a possibility I said " sure, how can I help".

Asked her why she would be taking a 5 day day trip to China and the reply was " because I want to see Great Wall".

Asked what her job was, she says " oh I'm self employed. Which has a variety of meanings.

Says she's going with 2 other girls and flight arrives at 1 am. A Filipina who as you will see isn't very smart, paying P 250000 for a 5 days flight to China. Plus hotel costs etc. Strange. I did advise her that I hoped she wasnt being a mule for something.

She says " do you know any hotels I say there are about 2000 in my city, why not look at Agoda and Expedia etc. She asks if I, a total stranger can find one for her.

She says maybe we all stay near airport. I tell her the city is about 40 kms away. She says " why so far". I say, try google then you can see the distance.

She says how do we get to the hotel? I tell her take taxi. I say write the name of hotel in Chinese, so a taxi wil know where to go.

She says " they don't speak English there?

I reply that some do do but taxi drivers ceratinly don't. She counters. But in Philippines they speak English. Hmm.

She says how much will a taxi be. I tell her Rmb 500. She says what's Rmb. I suggest she uses google to look up some things she might need to know about the country she's visiting. She tells me I'm so strict for not helping her.

She says is it rainy season?. I say no rainy season here. She says why not, its rainy season in Philippines.

She says where's the Great wall. I suggest there are many parts of it to visit. She says no I just want one. Why arent you more helpful.

She ask is there a Jollibee in China. I suggest, just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off she look at Jollibee website.

Truly amazing how someone can contemplate to visit a country and not know nor have any interest in where she is visiting. .

[Hutsori]

Truly amazing how someone can contemplate to visit a country and not know nor have any interest in where she is visiting. .It could be the I'm-clueless-and-helpless-so-rescue-me gambit. It's not unknown to women. You can be her chauffeur, host and tour guide.

[KongKing]

My guess is #7331 from Asian Rain.The hyperlink posted by Commonglass had this in part "viewfull=1#post1670051".

If on page 24 you go to OldJedi post and click Reply with Quote you will see it is the exact link name "post1670051".

So I think it is a OldJedi photo posting, not Asian Rain.

[Random99]

I say, try google then you can see the distance.

I am finding out that google / internet information is something locals are not utilizing as much as the western world. As someone from the US, (stating the obvious here) you can compare shop, buy and get things shipped to your house within a few days. You get used to using the internet for seeking information.

Since you don't have the capability of doing that in the Philippines and the sites that show "helpful" information is severely limited. The extent of internet use in PH is dominated by Facebook and other stupid social media sites.

I have a semi-frequent visitor at my apartment and she wanted to go to the movies. I was indifferent, so said I was ok with anything. After getting ready, I ask what movie are we seeing and what time? She gave me a blank look. I suggested that she google it and find the information before we go out. She was used to just showing up at the movie theatre and just making the choice there.

[AirlineCrew]

Truly amazing how someone can contemplate to visit a country and not know nor have any interest in where she is visiting. .So I take it you did not offer her to stay at your place with her 2 friends?? LOL.

I feel you man, asian ladies can be a pain sometimes, then again so can western women or any woman for that matter.

[Commonglass]

Sorry WC and others. It is post 7331.


CG: The link you posted does not go to a specific post (just to the entire page -- page 24 in the PG). Could you specify which post # on that page?

WC.

[Advantageous]

If I will only be in AC and Subic, is it really even worth pipelining pinays for my trip using DIA or PC? I've never been outside of Manila proper as far as Phils is concerned, so I don't know if there are simply way too many superior options where I'm headed to bother with online girls, or if it's more like the DR--plenty of girls around, but it helps to provide a nice auxiliary. I'd love to have something to keep me from going crazy waiting for this last week-and-a-half to pass before my SEA trip to start, but if it's not worth my money or (more importantly) time, I could just zone out and play some FIFA instead.

[D Cups]

STDs... However, I wanted to share my experience to add a note of caution for people who think there's little to no risk if they stick to unprotected sex with civilians. My buddy and I were 2/2 on getting STDs from civilians during our brief trip.Thanks, CG. Where was this?

[BrainDrain]

If I will only be in AC and Subic, is it really even worth pipelining pinays for my trip using DIA or PC? I've never been outside of Manila proper as far as Phils is concerned, so I don't know if there are simply way too many superior options where I'm headed to bother with online girls, or if it's more like the DR--plenty of girls around, but it helps to provide a nice auxiliary. I'd love to have something to keep me from going crazy waiting for this last week-and-a-half to pass before my SEA trip to start, but if it's not worth my money or (more importantly) time, I could just zone out and play some FIFA instead.There is no shortage of girls and entertainment in AC. You don't need to research at all.

There are lots of girls available. WHen we say we are doing research, we are looking for the hidden gems that are out there. You can always do some fossicking when you are in town.

BD.

[Commonglass]

We were partying in an around Makati in Manila.


Thanks, CG. Where was this?

[Mrdurden]

I can tell you that most girls are conservative in the sense that being with a foreigner brands them as loose women unless they are married to one. This does not mean the girls are not willing. Trick is to do it anonymously. What about if you take a DIA girl with you to a touristy beach resort?

I will have my first Phili trip in September and would like to have one girl with me for about a week. I want to go to El Nido (Palawan) so it's probably better to take a girl with me, instead of looking for locals in an area that does not have lots of people.

Would most Pinay girls prefer not to do this? Or the opposite, is it ideal for them to be in a tourist area and out of view of other Philipinos?

[Member #4387]

What about if you take a DIA girl with you to a touristy beach resort?

I will have my first Phili trip in September and would like to have one girl with me for about a week. I want to go to El Nido (Palawan) so it's probably better to take a girl with me, instead of looking for locals in an area that does not have lots of people.

Would most Pinay girls prefer not to do this? Or the opposite, is it ideal for them to be in a tourist area and out of view of other Philipinos?I have never done this with a picked girl from datingsites so others might view it differently but I think there are a few pitfalls you could fall into if you not screen them well prior to your travel (I have picked this up through RTFF). Pinays are in general less developed than their simular aged western sisters and by this they don't have a very broaden view of the world so you can easily / very fast run out of subjects to talk about. We all know we can not fuck 24-7 so there will be some quite moments if you don't find a pinay having some knowledge. What I mean is that it can be a long week if you do not connect in others area than in the bedroom. I don't know what age you are in nor what kind of age you look for in a girl. A more matured pinay may be better for a hole week. I myself can go tired from them after a few hours but I guess I am weird that way. As in we have nothing in common and no mutual platform to start from ex sex. There are exceptions though and I guess it is an exception girl you need for a hole week.

You may atleast want to do some testdrives (in all aspects of the word) before decissionmaking takes place as in meet them in MNL and spend a day with a few objects there. Can you immagine how you feel if you just meet a girl, lets say at the airport, and allready during the flight you get sick and tired from her. Chatting and cam sessions has nothing to do with how it can be in real life.

Maybe difficult for you to achieve by now but the only pinay I've ever taken on holiday within phils was a regular well travelled and highly educated girl. Then I knew upfront I could handle her for quite some time. I don't mean to be negative so take my warnings the good way. It is for your benefits only.

I guess an unemployed pinay would be ready to almost travel right away and for as long as it takes. Pinays with jobs ofcourse have obligations and by jobs I don't mean the typical barfine girly crowd. Good luck.

[Mrdurden]

I have never done this with a picked girl from datingsites so others might view it differently but I think there are a few pitfalls you could fall into if you not screen them well prior to your travel (I have picked this up through RTFF). Pinays are in general less developed than their simular aged western sisters and by this they don't have a very broaden view of the world so you can easily / very fast run out of subjects to talk about. We all know we can not fuck 24-7 so there will be some quite moments if you don't find a pinay having some knowledge. What I mean is that it can be a long week if you do not connect in others area than in the bedroom. I don't know what age you are in nor what kind of age you look for in a girl. A more matured pinay may be better for a hole week. *snip*Thanks! Those are all excellent points.

I am looking for a younger girl + Girlfriend Experience (one week).
So, heeding your advice, I am counting on doing lots of activities in Palawan (boating, kayaking, swimming, snorkeling, hiking) to keep us busy, and not rely on sitting around a cafe table trying to discuss world events.
And when it comes time to relax, I don't mind if we just snuggle quietly together in a hammock (again, going for the girlfriend experience).

Definitely, I do need to screen them in advance. I have started messaging with some girls and can tell already that some have little to say, replying with brief responses and asking nothing about my life.

To avoid complications afterward, I will not give her my real name, nor let her know my Facebook.

Thanks again! :)

[Member #4387]

Thanks! Those are all excellent points.

I am looking for a younger girl + Girlfriend Experience (one week).
So, heeding your advice, I am counting on doing lots of activities in Palawan (boating, kayaking, swimming, snorkeling, hiking) to keep us busy, and not rely on sitting around a cafe table trying to discuss world events.
And when it comes time to relax, I don't mind if we just snuggle quietly together in a hammock (again, going for the girlfriend experience).

Definitely, I do need to screen them in advance. I have started messaging with some girls and can tell already that some have little to say, replying with brief responses and asking nothing about my life.

To avoid complications afterward, I will not give her my real name, nor let her know my Facebook.

Thanks again! :)You seem to have given this some thoughts and that could be beneficial to you in the long run. Bringing in an rotten apple on holiday realy could destroy the overall exp. That beeing said you allways have the "pay uer to go home card" up your sleave as in a worse case scenario.

Good thing that you are an active dude that could overcome a lot if you end up with a quite one. A tad like me as I hate just lying at a beach looking at the sand. I need activety. You will do great I am sure.

Regarding writing with many pinays (not all but many) only use one sentence at a time and only one question per sentence. If you add in a couple of questions or more they will mostly only answer the last one. If you meet one can handle multiple sentences and multiple questions and answer them she might be a keeper, hehe. It is nothing as depressing writing a small essay and the pinay replies "ok" or "huh".

I am also very sensitive sharing my personal details ex to a few of my regular girls in which I deeply trust. The rest of the girls have realy no idea who I am as most is fake, name, fb etc incl. It would be a disaster if a 20 something (or worse) pinay wrote on my real fb "Hello, babe how are u. Luve u". That would put up a few eyebrows around in family, GF and real friends environment.

[BrainDrain]

What about if you take a DIA girl with you to a touristy beach resort?

I will have my first Phili trip in September and would like to have one girl with me for about a week. I want to go to El Nido (Palawan) so it's probably better to take a girl with me, instead of looking for locals in an area that does not have lots of people.

Would most Pinay girls prefer not to do this? Or the opposite, is it ideal for them to be in a tourist area and out of view of other Philipinos?Consider do you have a wingman with whom to travel? Then the pinay can talk to each other, or.

Consider taking two girls with you. One for you and one girl for your girl to talk to. This keeps them entertained and lets you do what you want.

Most importantly, you need to choose well and interview the girls prior to travel.

I've done one trip where I basically did my own thing all day and just met my girl for nights.

Another trip was with a wingman, the two girls talked tagalog all day, my wingman and I talked boys stuff. Each couple would disappear at various times of the day to have some private time.

BD.

[Mrdurden]

Regarding writing with many pinays (not all but many) only use one sentence at a time and only one question per sentence. If you add in a couple of questions or more they will mostly only answer the last one. If you meet one can handle multiple sentences and multiple questions and answer them she might be a keeper, hehe. It is nothing as depressing writing a small essay and the pinay replies "ok" or "huh".


Great points again, especially this part. It's almost like a job interview, haha.


Consider do you have a wingman with whom to travel? Then the pinay can talk to each other, or.

Consider taking two girls with you. One for you and one girl for your girl to talk to. This keeps them entertained and lets you do what you want.

Most importantly, you need to choose well and interview the girls prior to travel.

I've done one trip where I basically did my own thing all day and just met my girl for nights.

Another trip was with a wingman, the two girls talked tagalog all day, my wingman and I talked boys stuff. Each couple would disappear at various times of the day to have some private time.

BD.

This is also a fantastic idea, but I am not a wing-man type of guy. I prefer to monger alone & spontaneously.

Getting 2 girls might be a challenge, I think? Most girls on DIA and other sites are at least pretending to be looking for "a guy who is serious". I have had no problem getting attention from those girls (even though my profile says that I would like a girl to spend a week with in Palawan). But if I propose that she comes with another girl, that might be stretching it...? Especially if I am looking for a girl who is very young (20-24) and inexperienced. (I'm 41 and look younger).

Also, I would be at a touristy area with lots of Westerners, so going there with 2 local girls would bring up lots of attention (and envy, haha :) ). But I do not want attention.

[Engine Driver]

Also, I would be at a touristy area with lots of Westerners, so going there with 2 local girls would bring up lots of attention (and envy, haha :) ). But I do not want attention.Have you thought about taking a WG on your trip? Many of them are accustomed to going away on little side trips with foreigners and some of them can give you a serious GFE. You can test drive them and see what their attitude is like and whether you can put up with them before going away. They will also know of suitable WG friends to potentially take along. The WGs can chat in Tagalog while you do your thing during the day. At night, you have a ready made threesome (provided the WGs know of your wish at the start). You just have to bar fine them for the days you will be away and give them a suitable tip. As long as you are not going to their home town, most WGs won't mind being seen with a foreigner.

[Mogwai]

Also, I would be at a touristy area with lots of Westerners, so going there with 2 local girls would bring up lots of attention (and envy, haha :) ). But I do not want attention.And it might be a problem to book a room for the 3 of you. So maybe you have to take 2 rooms.

[Mogwai]

Getting 2 girls might be a challenge, I think? I don't think so. I think most Pinays like to bring a friend or even a family member (female). They will feel more at ease and safer. They don't know you after all, you could be a serial killer LOL.
And beside that family and friends are very important in the Phils. They like to have people around them.

[Mrdurden]

Have you thought about taking a WG on your trip? That is certainly an option, but I always prefer non-pros if the opportunity arises and it looks like Philippines might be best for this situation. If nothing comes from the dating sites, I will use that as "Plan B".


And it might be a problem to book a room for the 3 of you. So maybe you have to take 2 rooms.

True, I did not even consider that! It will certainly arouse attention at the check in counter, haha :)

[Member #4387]

True, I did not even consider that! It will certainly arouse attention at the check in counter, haha :)Hehe, no worries. Some of the pinays are so tiny so you can only hang a babybassinet on the wall and the nr 2 girl can rest there, hehe. No need for two rooms.

[Dg8787]

And it might be a problem to book a room for the 3 of you. So maybe you have to take 2 rooms.You would only book the room for 2 with queen or king size bed. Then just bring up the 2 or more girls. If anyone asks then just say the extra person is visiting. I have never been asked the 10 or so times.

[Amadeuss]

Regarding writing with many pinays (not all but many) only use one sentence at a time and only one question per sentence. If you add in a couple of questions or more they will mostly only answer the last one. If you meet one can handle multiple sentences and multiple questions and answer them she might be a keeper, hehe. It is nothing as depressing writing a small essay and the pinay replies "ok" or "huh".
.Fully agree with that - 1 question a time. In many cases you will get another question back as answer. If its an important fact which you want to know, be persistant. Most of the girls on the datingboards are high-school leavers at the best, which puts them on an intelligence level like a 5th grader in our system. You won't find the true university. Students there. And even college education for nurses is not covering general topics like history, language, maths.

I did ask a girl, telling me she's good in maths and want to study accounting: You got 2 cakes. From the first one you take a slice 33% of the cake size. And from the 2nd cake a slice 1/3rd of the cake. Which one is the much bigger piece?

"Oh that's easy. The piece with 33".

The time to get them bedded can be fun. But once that's done. Boredom starts. Just hand her over the TV remote and you carry on with whatever you like to do.

[Member #4387]

Fully agree with that - 1 question a time. In many cases you will get another question back as answer. If its an important fact which you want to know, be persistant. Most of the girls on the datingboards are high-school leavers at the best, which puts them on an intelligence level like a 5th grader in our system. You won't find the true university. Students there. And even college education for nurses is not covering general topics like history, language, maths.

I did ask a girl, telling me she's good in maths and want to study accounting: You got 2 cakes. From the first one you take a slice 33% of the cake size. And from the 2nd cake a slice 1/3rd of the cake. Which one is the much bigger piece?

"Oh that's easy. The piece with 33".

The time to get them bedded can be fun. But once that's done. Boredom starts. Just hand her over the TV remote and you carry on with whatever you like to do.By writing like this you will probably get the phil protectors on your back but it is nothing to loose any sleep over, hehe. Yeah except from a rare few well travelled and educated (intl) ones hanging around the general pinay crowd is realy depressing after the bedding is done. So any hanging out as in a dinner (if I am hungry) or drinks have to be done prior to session take place. After session, if not a spectacular one so a round two comes into play, I loose totaly interest and can not get them to leave fast enough. I do realy, sometimes, struggle hard to behave accordingly if I see them sit down and wants to talk.

What I do to prevent to much uninterested talks is I allways bring bluetooth loadspeakers so I play loud music. Many pinays love to watch "phil got talent" and even if it bores the hell out of me times fly by and we can soon start the bedplay.

I am very excited for my upcomming trip though (in a few days) as I have done some changes in my overnighting crowd. This trip I have chosen more or less unscreened girls to come stay the night. Seemingly educated as they handle two or more questions in a sentence (basically ex looks and bodystructure this has been my only requirement). If they never answered "huh" they are good to go. It is this easy realy. All 8 of them are screened from myself through my fake fb account and are a mix of one nurse, one ship broker, 2 cashiers, 2 receptionists (Hi so hotels but not Ascott), one recently returned OFW (Dubai) and one casino floor manager. Well well good luck to me. I will need it. We will see if nights will be very long and the remote will come in handy.

[Charlie Horse]

I did ask a girl, telling me she's good in maths and want to study accounting: You got 2 cakes. From the first one you take a slice 33% of the cake size. And from the 2nd cake a slice 1/3rd of the cake. Which one is the much bigger piece?

"Oh that's easy. The piece with 33".

Follow up by asking them "what weighs more? A pound of feathers or a pound of gold?

[Mad Mad]

Hi,

I just wonder if anyone knows were you can buy Viagra without prescription in Cebu City and if there are any sex shops around as well.

Thanks

[Hutsori]

Hi,

I just wonder if anyone knows were you can buy Viagra without prescription in Cebu City and if there are any sex shops around as well.

ThanksOdd questions to ask in the Chat Rooms and Pen Pals thread. Try the Cebu thread, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu. WR posted some info that answers one of your questions in Feb of this year.

[Dg8787]

Hi,

I just wonder if anyone knows were you can buy Viagra without prescription in Cebu City and if there are any sex shops around as well.

ThanksOne question at a time. This chat room is only for 7th graders bagging on 5th graders! But I will be a leaver for now. LMF9thgradeAO.

It is available in any drug store without a script.

[Mrdurden]

Yeah except from a rare few well travelled and educated (intl) ones hanging around the general pinay crowd is realy depressing after the bedding is done. So any hanging out as in a dinner (if I am hungry) or drinks have to be done prior to session take place. After session, if not a spectacular one so a round two comes into play, I loose totaly interest and can not get them to leave fast enough. Dinner is the difficult part, but when I meet my Viet girlfriend in Singapore, our pre- and post-sex activities mostly consist of us both surfing the internet on our iPads or laptops, just like I would do at home alone. (of course, there are lots of touristy things to do outside also).
But eating is the one time when I am bored silly and feel rude about checking out my phone.

[Ms Account]

Given I lived in China up until 2010 (commuting monthly so nearly living) I had already experienced high volume and also high quality short term (ST) arrangements (although I never did a FR here but it is irrelevant now because the Guangdong scene is dead anyway).

My first foray into Filipino chatmates was back in 2007.

My approach was (and still is) to seek a girl for sponsorship.

My motivation for this approach is.

- I don't have a lot of time for a high volume of chatmates to establish the volume of contacts necessary for continual ST arrangements.

- given I am really fussy I would get tired of continual meet and greets. Knocking back most I would meet.

- generally you are going to get a better looking girl from a sponsorship than ST chatmates or P4P (in my view but seasoned experts may disagree).

My first sponsorship was a girl in Davao who I met on CB (I have an expat friend who lives in Davao but I keep the two worlds separate).

This worked out well and although I didn't go there that often, the girl finished college around 2009 and I still see her on a casual basis.

I was absent until 2013 when I decided to try again.

This time I sort of chose Cebu or maybe because I met a girl in Cebu, Cebu ended up being my focus.

This lasted 1 year with trips every 3 months. It ended when I caught her with another sponsor.

I had organised a trip and she said she would be in province. I said if she didn't meet me it was over. I still went anyway and luck shown down upon me because I was walking in SM and she was walking with a tall Australian guy (she told me later). I followed them and she knew I was following them and he also detected I was following them. I contemplated making a scene but walked away. Sorry Mr tall Australian man, maybe I could have saved you some misery and money.

I recently decided to try again and had lined up to meet in May 2015 1 girl in Manila, 4 in Cebu and 1 in Davao who I had discussed prospective sponsorship with who based upon photos and cam matched my expectations. Unfortunately the trip got delayed till the end of June meaning to maintain the relationship I sort of felt obliged to fund their initial enrollment early June. April / May is the best time of year to meet girls for sponsorship. Not going till end of June was a mistake.

The Manila girl (18 yo virgin) never turned up. 1 girl in Cebu I just agreed to a meet per pay arrangement (pretty but not enough for sponsorship). 1 girl in Cebu had a great personality but didn't match the photos / cam in real life. I had developed such a good relationship with her though I agreed to sponsor her one semester (with no relationship as wasn't interested). 1 girl in Cebu (who I was not sold on anyway) didn't turn up. 1 girl in Cebu who I thought from modelling photos would be my prime candidate in real life was a bit of a downer. Also she said she was a virgin and part of the deal was I inspected and although virginity is not a driver she was fibbing on that. At this stage I sort of had enough and was going to cancel going to Davao. But I went and the Davao girl was the gem I was seeking. Just my look and to date. A genuine personality.

As for costs. I over paid on my first Cebu foray in 2012.8000 per month plus school fees. Now I don't offer beyond 6000 per month including school fees but depending on the city this is probably the bottom end of what they need. Generally fees will be around 20000 per semester (depending on college / city) plus books / uniforms maybe 2000 per semester and 3000 per month transport / food costs (assuming they live at home). So over a 10 month school year that is 7500 pesos per month or spread over a year (with only living allowance in April / May) of 7000 per month. For this FR is the first time I have done the maths so 6000 per month does seem stingy. Anyone disagree with my numbers?

Of course the other factor is how far progressed are they. If they are just 1st year then that is a big commitment 4 years. In the case of the Davao girl she is 4th year so it is only 1 year.

Seasoned veterans may say this is a suckers approach because as I found out there is high chance you are not the only sponsor or there is a Filipino BF in the background or.

If I lived in the Philippines maybe it would be different but for a casual but regular visitor like me. It seems to be the best match to my drivers above.

Any views?

Photo attached. Original Cebu sponsorship as an example of what I define as attractive.

[Dg8787]

Dear sir,

Thanks for great report. Certainly much credit to you for doing it your way sir and not any other "mildly" suggested way here. Hope you have or will find the one, then imo 6 k allowance might be light. But it certainly is up to you.

DG8787.

[Member #4351]

Anyone disagree with my numbers?Sounds about correct. I agree with your thinking and am doing the same, here is what she sent me regarding costs:

"Hi, I just got home from the school together with my two girls classmate theyre pretty but I am more pretty.

I'm there to take the exam and they went to the school to get their schedule because they take early, and they got 25 units, they get the coarse my dream coarse HM, and they paid 28 K because HM is more on skills like cooking, and I do love cooking at the same time.

Thats the semester cost - 28 k.

For my fare for 1 month-5 k because Saturday have class.

School uniform and p. E is not a problem because I can I adjust my sis uniform.

School supply-1 k the left I will buy bag.

And for my school shoes-1 k because I want a school shoes have heels so I will be look sexy.

Books -3 k but if they recommend us the book and my sis have it already I won't buy because I am a saver, I don't want to waste and I don't want to abuse my sponsor that's why if I can find way to save I will."

[Member #4716]

Given I lived in China up until 2010 (commuting monthly so nearly living) I had already experienced high volume and also high quality short term (ST) arrangements (although I never did a FR here but it is irrelevant now because the Guangdong scene is dead anyway).

My first foray into Filipino chatmates was back in 2007.

My approach was (and still is) to seek a girl for sponsorship.

My motivation for this approach is.

- I don't have a lot of time for a high volume of chatmates to establish the volume of contacts necessary for continual ST arrangements.

- given I am really fussy I would get tired of continual meet and greets. Knocking back most I would meet.

- generally you are going to get a better looking girl from a sponsorship than ST chatmates or P4P (in my view but seasoned experts may disagree).

My first sponsorship was a girl in Davao who I met on CB (I have an expat friend who lives in Davao but I keep the two worlds separate)...You met these girls on CB? What's that?

How exactly do you arrange such a deal? Do you make a profile on some sight saying so, or do ask directly during conversation?

[Ms Account]

You met these girls on CB? What's that?

How exactly do you arrange such a deal? Do you make a profile on some sight saying so, or do ask directly during conversation?CB = Cherry Blossoms. I also have / do use FC=Filipino Cupid. Others here report using PL=Pinay Love. I used to use DIA = Date in Asia but my account was closed for copy and pasting and for the life of me I can't seem to open a new account (it is detecting both my landline IP address and my mobile wifi IP address. Even tried a VPN and it detected it was a VPN IP address. I was going to reopen it when I was in the Philippines (with a new IP address) but my guess is once I logged back on with my banned IP address it would close it down again). If DIA put as much effort into blocking people using its website as its actual website functionality. It would be a world beater. If anyone can please explain DIA's business model. Please enlighten me.

In my profile I don't specifically mention sponsorship. But what you write there probably is irrelevant anyway because they don't read it. If after initial contact I think I am interested I will straight away be upfront that I am sponsorship not marriage. 50% drop away. I am a big believer in karma. If you give out crap, crap will come back to you. So I never advocate misleading or wasting a girls time. It would be very easy to promise the world (sponsorship or marriage) and then once you have conquered the mountain move on. From the feedback I get from many girls I have chatted. This is a very common tactic. Good luck to the mongers who do that (and for your sake I hope I am wrong about karma).

The main problem with this strategy is spontaneity vs waiting for the right candidate. I only visit every three months (which still is quite often) and I find it extremely difficult to maintain the volume of interactions necessary before arrival. More often than not if you don't maintain regular chit chat before arrival. Either they have changed mobile numbers or their chances of meeting you is significantly reduced. It would be best to delay your search until a week before arrival and be able to say OK great lets meet next week. But then you are restricting yourself to candidates who happen to login in the last week. Most girls are not very frequent users of these websites and may only login every few weeks to a month. The ones logging in every few hours are probably not good sponsor candidates.

That is why I look on to some the exploits described in FR's here and think how do you maintain such a high volume of chatmate interaction necessary to achieve multiple ST arrangements. It would be a full time job.

My final observation. Life is a network. Even though you might not be interested in one candidate you meet from a chatsite. Don't burn bridges because the greatest opportunities lie in the network not your initial entry point. But that takes time and effort that casual visitors will find difficult to achieve (and even at trips every 3 months I find difficult to achieve).

[Ms Account]

Sounds about correct. I agree with your thinking and am doing the same, here is what she sent me regarding costs:

"Hi, I just got home from the school together with my two girls classmate theyre pretty but I am more pretty.

I'm there to take the exam and they went to the school to get their schedule because they take early, and they got 25 units, they get the coarse my dream coarse HM, and they paid 28 K because HM is more on skills like cooking, and I do love cooking at the same time.

Thats the semester cost - 28 k.

For my fare for 1 month-5 k because Saturday have class.

School uniform and p. E is not a problem because I can I adjust my sis uniform.

School supply-1 k the left I will buy bag.

And for my school shoes-1 k because I want a school shoes have heels so I will be look sexy.

Books -3 k but if they recommend us the book and my sis have it already I won't buy because I am a saver, I don't want to waste and I don't want to abuse my sponsor that's why if I can find way to save I will."Thanks for the feedback. The Davao girl told me her fees are 30000 per semester and I asked her why she accepted 6000 when she knew that would be not enough. She just said something is better than nothing and would rely on her parents. When someone is genuine like that you can't help but be accommodating so I bumped my commitment to her up to 8000 per month. As a comparison I had been talking to a Butuan girl (who I never met) who said her fees were around 12000 per semester. One of the Cebu girls told me 22000 per semester. So does depend on city and college. But agree 8000 per month probably is a more realistic minimum budget.

[Hutsori]

Sorry Mr tall Australian man, maybe I could have saved you some misery and money.
Since you believe the guy will end up miserable am I correct to infer you felt miserable? If this is accurate then I think spending any time and money to feel this way is a bad investment.

Re your budget, I think any sum won't buy a girl's loyalty; that has to be given freely and willingly. I known girls who claim to receive much more than the sum you provide and they're screwing any bloke they chose. Some girls have told me of their sponsors' monitoring efforts such as daily video chats for hours, putting them in residences with a maid or other person who reports on their comings and goings, GPS tracking of their mobiles, etc. Seems like a lot of aggravation and stress for the sponsor and the result is the girl is still able to wiggle free. To them is becomes a game.

Given a pretty girl on a dating site receives dozens if not hundreds of messages daily, many of which propose sponsorship, the girl knows she has options. Plenty of them.

If one becomes a sponsor I think it's best one accepts there is no control over another person. Perhaps look at her as part-time employee who is allowed to pursue other employment opportunities. Let's say one spends p100k per year for four 1-week visits. That's approx. p3600 per day - not expensive - and you have certainty of a beautiful girl. Of course if she doesn't turn up or is meeting another guy during your visit that will be problematic. That's the risk.

Anyway, I appreciate sponsors like you because it gives the girl an education, sustenance, and, most importantly, plenty of free time to do what she wishes. Thank you.

[Wicked Roger]

Sounds about correct. I agree with your thinking and am doing the same, here is what she sent me regarding costs:

I'm there to take the exam and they went to the school to get their schedule because they take early, and they got 25 units, they get the coarse my dream coarse HM, and they paid 28 K because HM is more on skills like cooking, and I do love cooking at the same time.

That's the semester cost- 28 k.

For my fare for 1 month-5 k because Saturday have class.

School uniform and p. E is not a problem because I can I adjust my sis uniform.

School supply-1 k the left I will buy bag.

And for my school shoes-1 k because I want a school shoes have heels so I will be look sexy.Seems a reasonable estimate David. You know the costs also.

For the newbies read on:

Fees depend on the course, the school, the number of units taken. Then ass in 'supplies', 'snacks' plus some have to pay for exams as well. Transport to and from (could be many jeepneys) and if they are a long ay maybe room / accommodation (dorm type).

Booms. Usually IMHO these are what the professor suggests and this means his / her book plus you buy from the college. Uniform prices can be higher depends how many are needed 0 and you van ask her but extra for your fun an games (and to shorten if that's your way of enjoyment LOL).

Allowance? 6 k is poor as I know sponsors give their ladies 4 k a week and that includes foo etc so 2 k a week won't go far unless you pay for the room as well separately.

All depends on the school and to a degree where they are living etc.

HRM, Tourism and Nursing to be avoided. The latter is a great degree but too many graduate no work and overseas prospects dwindling due to localization and competition IMHO - (see Red Kilt and GE's posts) plus Gangles wrote some useful advice only.

[WestCoast1]

My approach was (and still is) to seek a girl for sponsorship.

SNIP

This lasted 1 year with trips every 3 months. It ended when I caught her with another sponsor.




Since you believe the guy will end up miserable am I correct to infer you felt miserable? If this is accurate then I think spending any time and money to feel this way is a bad investment.

Re your budget, I think any sum won't buy a girl's loyalty; that has to be given freely and willingly. I known girls who claim to receive much more than the sum you provide and they're screwing any bloke they chose.

Anyway, I appreciate sponsors like you because it gives the girl an education, sustenance, and, most importantly, plenty of free time to do what she wishes. Thank you.I'm with Huts here. Careful with sponsorship: It always comes with strings. Your string: her loyalty. Her string: just the opposite. Quite a few of us have experienced an afternoon (or multiple nights) with a pinay who is being sponsored by a foreigner who is unaware of his girl's quiet exploits. For a primer, please read this post (mine, Filipinas. Opinions and Advice thread, page32, from July 19 2014, #3688 http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=1596636&viewfull=1#post1596636). In fact, read the posts below that from RK, TW, and Huts (#3690) regarding such.

Lying is a real part of pinoy culture. As long as you are OK with the idea that she will have other sponsors, and / or a pinoy boyfriend on the side, then its all good. Short of that, people get hurt.

[Ms Account]

I'm with Huts here. Careful with sponsorship: It always comes with strings. Lying is a real part of pinoy culture. As long as you are OK with the idea that she will have other sponsors, and / or a pinoy boyfriend on the side, then its all good. Short of that, people get hurt.Thanks Westcoast and Huts for the feedback. I expected some skepticism about the merits of this strategy. I have two points I would like to raise in response:

(1) My philosophy is "trust and verify".

I have been around Asian culture for all of my life.

It never ceases to amaze me an Asian cultural theme of a lack of trust and short term thinking about relationships (other than family ie guanxi). Its a reason I just can't see Asia being the economic powerhouse of the future it is sold as.

Who knows what the mix of appreciative genuine sponsorettes vs manipulative cheaters is!

But the day I stop giving people a chance is the day I become a hermit.

(2) Part time mongers like myself (both in effort possible pre visit and how often I visit) can never replicate the success of some of the FR's here. It is easy to underestimate the benefits of (a) being at the right place and the right time (b) the power of a network built through time and money. Sponsorship takes effort but less than a full on ST chatmates strategy. I sometimes doubt the chatmate approach (sponsor or short term) vs just turning up in Manila and relying on P4P. Every time.

I have tried a open up DIA now and find someone to meet today approach, I have always fallen back to P4 P bars. Every time I have successfully barfined on Burgos (ok yes I have no FR maybe my next one) I wake up with little change from 10 K. So sponsorship is 10 days of Burgos P4 P based upon Huts 100 K per year sponsorship proposal. But as I said I have met some really nice looking girls on Burgos that would pass my sponsorship quality test (example attached). So really wonder sometimes whether chatmates is worth the effort. Sponsorship I propose is the halfway point (from an effort perspective) between full on ST chatmates and P4 P.

So if us gullible foreign sponsors results in less students having to work at Jolibees and have more time to meet more time rich mongers. Then maybe that is the cost we have to wear. But of course verify. Randomly check chatmate websites, review their facebook profile etc. That's not possessiveness that's just doing your best to minimise being the sucker.

[Hutsori]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=1596636&viewfull=1#post1596636
Your link was broken; now it is not.

The 'auto-correct' intelligence has problems with URLs. It adds spaces after periods and even at times after alpha-numeric characters. It'll put the URL tag somewhere within the address rather than at the end of it. Google map addresses really cause it fits.

A preview post is a good way to catch and correct the errors.

[ImAGuy]

Bleh. The dating websites are a joke. Every decent-looking girl I've talked to on them is a scammer, pretty much. Just going to go to the Phils in early August and see what happens. My salary is pretty high, I'm in the highest tax bracket, anyway, it's also location independent. I'm not so much into scoring tons of 7's, as I am getting a few model-tier girls. Surely there has to be some girls there who are both hot and decent, eh?

Guess we'll see. Will update with an FR in 3 weeks or so.

[Member #4716]

CB = Cherry Blossoms. I also have / do use FC=Filipino Cupid. Others here report using PL=Pinay Love. I used to use DIA = Date in Asia but my account was closed for copy and pasting and for the life of me I can't seem to open a new account (it is detecting both my landline IP address and my mobile wifi IP address. Even tried a VPN and it detected it was a VPN IP address. I was going to reopen it when I was in the Philippines (with a new IP address) but my guess is once I logged back on with my banned IP address it would close it down again). If DIA put as much effort into blocking people using its website as its actual website functionality. It would be a world beater. If anyone can please explain DIA's business model. Please enlighten me.

In my profile I don't specifically mention sponsorship. But what you write there probably is irrelevant anyway because they don't read it. If after initial contact I think I am interested I will straight away be upfront that I am sponsorship not marriage. 50% drop away. I am a big believer in karma. If you give out crap, crap will come back to you. So I never advocate misleading or wasting a girls time. It would be very easy to promise the world (sponsorship or marriage) and then once you have conquered the mountain move on. From the feedback I get from many girls I have chatted. This is a very common tactic. Good luck to the mongers who do that (and for your sake I hope I am wrong about karma)..Great reply! Thanks!

[Random99]

Bleh. The dating websites are a joke. Every decent-looking girl I've talked to on them is a scammer, pretty much. Just going to go to the Phils in early August and see what happens. My salary is pretty high, I'm in the highest tax bracket, anyway, it's also location independent. I'm not so much into scoring tons of 7's, as I am getting a few model-tier girls. Surely there has to be some girls there who are both hot and decent, eh?

Guess we'll see. Will update with an FR in 3 weeks or so.Ima - Good luck. Hopefully, you aren't as douchey in person as you come across through your typing. (not trying to insult you, but giving you honest feedback.).

[Random99]

I used to use DIA = Date in Asia but my account was closed for copy and pasting and for the life of me I can't seem to open a new account (it is detecting both my landline IP address and my mobile wifi IP address. Even tried a VPN and it detected it was a VPN IP address. I was going to reopen it when I was in the Philippines (with a new IP address) but my guess is once I logged back on with my banned IP address it would close it down again). You might try again with DIA with a VPN account and a new email address. DIA used to block my VPN, but recently in the past 6 months (not sure exactly when) - it works when I am logged on via VPN. (my account was never blocked, just couldn't log in while using VPN.).

[Red Kilt]

Lying is a real part of pinoy culture. As long as you are OK with the idea that she will have other sponsors, and / or a pinoy boyfriend on the side, then its all good. Short of that, people get hurt.I personally know a woman in a northern Luzon city who has 3 (three) devoted sponsors each sending her a substantial monthly allowance so that she will stay in the province and not return to the bar in Manila from whence she came. Each guy plans to marry her, but none of them know about each other because she is ultra smart. They don't know that she will never marry any of them.

She meets them in Manila when they visit, and sometimes even supplements their donations with an extra day or two in Manila freelancing.

Her reasoning? "If these guys are stupid enough to send me money every month, why shouldn't I take advantage of it? I can help my family have a comfortable life".

[Random99]

I am very excited for my upcomming trip though (in a few days) as I have done some changes in my overnighting crowd. Skogis - Man, I don't know where you get the energy to travel and f*ck as much as you do. I think we are similar ages, but traveling on planes kill me and I'm only good for 1-2 rounds per day (max).

Seems like you are finishing posting about your last trip and a few days later talking about the next one. More power to you (not in a negative or sarcastic way).

[Member #4387]

Skogis - Man, I don't know where you get the energy to travel and f*ck as much as you do. I think we are similar ages, but traveling on planes kill me and I'm only good for 1-2 rounds per day (max).

Seems like you are finishing posting about your last trip and a few days later talking about the next one. More power to you (not in a negative or sarcastic way).Early 40 ies is the new early 20 ies my man, hehe. But seriously my libido never been higher and maybe except from I was actually in the twenties I've never been in better shape so I have a high energylevel. Planerides is my chillout spot both on my way to mongeringparadise and back (ofcourse it helps to be tucked in by the windows in biz class all the time and just sleep sleep).

[X Man]

Verify what? Do you mean verify that she is using the money the way you want her to use the money? That makes sense.

Or do you want to control her sex and romantic life? And why would you want to do that if you don't have "boots on the ground"? Is it just old fashioned jealousy / male ego, or do you want to marry the lady? Some might call that a fool's errand. On the other hand, Filipinos do seem to use jealousy / chastity at a whole different level than the typical Westerner.

I'm not trying to be abrasive, I just can't get my head around the whole idea of P4 P sponsorship.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder? Do they have some equivalent expression in the Philippines. Where is RK, our Tagalog linguistic guru?

We all have different approaches, budgets, time constraints, kinks, ages, fashions, charisma and I could go on and on. One of the pleasures of reading here is that there are so may different angles used. X.


Thanks Westcoast and Huts for the feedback. I expected some skepticism about the merits of this strategy. I have two points I would like to raise in response:

(1) My philosophy is "trust and verify". SNIP SNIP

[Sam 14]

Bleh. The dating websites are a joke. Every decent-looking girl I've talked to on them is a scammer, pretty much. Just going to go to the Phils in early August and see what happens. My salary is pretty high, I'm in the highest tax bracket, anyway, it's also location independent. I'm not so much into scoring tons of 7's, as I am getting a few model-tier girls. Surely there has to be some girls there who are both hot and decent, eh? Guess we'll see. Will update with an FR in 3 weeks or so.Hmm. Well, I'd offer a little different perspective. I wouldn't say they are a joke just because you're not finding model-tier girls that are willing to fuck a stranger, monied or otherwise. First off, I rarely see model-tier's in person, or on the sites. (I'm not in Manila). Secondly, I don't know what you consider a 7, but I would rate the one below about a 7 in looks. But I would say she's both hot and decent, and many would probably consider her a 9+. She's 18, beautiful, was a virgin when I met her. Now she's one of the most sensual, sexual, loving creatures I ever been with, and she shags like a pro. Says they watch sex videos on their cell phone because rumor has it that if you're no good in the sack, you WILL be sacked. And I'm in the lowest tax bracket and she don't care.

So I would say it's possible, but it may take a little on-the-ground work. I never spent more than a few hours a month, and never went out of my way. Also looks are deceiving, the pictures they post are more of a joke than the sites are. Some of the prettiest pictures belong to the funkiest of the girls, and some of the plainest pics belong to some of the hottest.

And they have no idea what their weight is. 42 kilograms means 55. And they lie about their age. This one said she was 22 but she's 18. I met one that was plain looking in her picture and listed as 24 yo. She showed up and she was unreal hot. Smoking little college student in her Catholic uniform, all of 17 years old. I asked her why she said she was 24, she said because 17 is too young. I said I agree, see you in January for your Devo.

[Ms Account]

Verify what? Do you mean verify that she is using the money the way you want her to use the money? That makes sense.

Or do you want to control her sex and romantic life? And why would you want to do that if you don't have "boots on the ground"? Is it just old fashioned jealousy / male ego, or do you want to marry the lady? Some might call that a fool's errand. On the other hand, Filipinos do seem to use jealousy / chastity at a whole different level than the typical Westerner.

We all have different approaches, budgets, time constraints, kinks, ages, fashions, charisma and I could go on and on. One of the pleasures of reading here is that there are so may different angles used. X.Simple verify techniques.

- ask for school results and school bills each semester.

- check if they have other facebook profiles. Cebu girl had her official profile but when I then clicked on the friends of her friends I found she had another profile which is where I found the modelling photos I referred to in my post.

- search via their email account and name. It is amazing what Google search finds.

- Viber location service is an easy tracking service see my story below.

This is not jealousy it is just easy to do verification. If employers are doing it for all employees now. Why wouldn't it be appropriate for sponsorship employment.

As for the merits of sponsorship. Without reviewing again my discussion points below. I still will propose to you that using chat websites for ST pay per meet arrangements will restrict who you get to meet and with sponsorship as the selling point you still may end up with a pay per meet arrangement anyway. But as per my post below, my ethics will never allow me to sell a complete fabrication of looking for marriage as the selling point.

Use of Viber as location service. Viber conversation with sponsorette (SP).

SP: Sorry can't meet you. In province.

Me: Click on the little icon next to my name in the this post. What do you see?

SP: Ahh, a map showing your location.

Me: Yes! Click on the little icon next to you name in the post what do you see.

SP: yeah well I just came back to Cebu for the day. I leave again tomorrow.

(sorry will have to learn how to get rid of all these extra line returns. I delete them but they keep re-appearing).

[D Cups]

Hi Red and Guys, I have this 20 year old In Cebu that I send money to every two or three or maybe four months. Her papa just passed away and her mama is not doing well and she has three little sisters so it is all charity to me. Not much: maybe 2 or 3000 P so in a way I guess I sponsor her because I only get to see her once or twice a year. But she is so effin hot my dick gets hard just looking at her and I'm pushing 60. Are other guys schtookin her and / or sending her money? Probably. I'd be a fool to think otherwise. But I don't care as long as she she doesn't get knocked up or a disease. She doesn't have a brain in her pretty little head but she knows how to suck the schwantztooka and her pussy is so tight. I feel like I'm 20, too, when I'm with her. Have fun, guys. These girls are special if you treat them right. QUOTE=Red Kilt;1748052]l monthly allowance so that she will stay in the province and not return to the bar in Manila from whence she came.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm not trying to be abrasive, I just can't get my head around the whole idea of P4 P sponsorship.I thought the whole idea of P4 P was that you could pay as you go or per use so you wouldn't have to continuously support the female. Adding a hooker to your list of bills is beyond me too. Why not get a normal girlfriend that you didn't have to pay?

[Hutsori]

(1) My philosophy is "trust and verify".

That's not possessiveness that's just doing your best to minimise being the sucker.Seems to me the effort to verify is a wasted one. From afar your ability to investigate is very limited. And all the pointing and clicking takes time. I suggest removing the fear of being a 'sucker' from your mind; it'll weigh on you. You're only a sucker if you define yourself so and when you arrive in country and the girl blows you off. If the girl is available where and when you want, and you're happy with the days spent together, there's no reason to worry about all the other days when you're overseas. Out of sight is out of mind in my book.

[Hutsori]

I thought the whole idea of P4 P was that you could pay as you go or per use so you wouldn't have to continuously support the female. Adding a hooker to your list of bills is beyond me too. Why not get a normal girlfriend that you didn't have to pay?The fella wants a higher quality girl than usually found in the bars, so he's paying her a retainer. Doing the maths it may work out to be a better bang for the buck. But in his case he was in town and she was meeting some other bloke instead.

[Mogwai]

I thought the whole idea of P4 P was that you could pay as you go or per use so you wouldn't have to continuously support the female. Adding a hooker to your list of bills is beyond me too. Why not get a normal girlfriend that you didn't have to pay?I think it's something in between P4 P and a normal GF. It's a kind of investment or retainer as Huts calls it.
And we all know a normal GF usually costs even more, LOL.

I'm doing it myself too but on a very modest scale. I'm sending 2 girls 1000 PhP each every month. They are happy with it (although not thrilled obviously) and so far haven't complained or asked for more. Next time I see them (hopefully this Autumn) I will know if it was worth it or not.

[Sammon]

Monthly allowance gets boring fast. I have been there and done that. When I was visiting Phi frequently it was good to have girls on retainers. But if you come only once a year it is not worth it unless you like charity. Do not be on the illusion that she is not getting fucked by somebody during your absence or even during your presence giving various reasons why she cannot be with you. For me I like tried and tested girls first and foremost. I would also meet other girls in between and see. If they turn out to be good sex company I will call them next visit. I do not indulge in communicating with them constantly like you do with a GF. I tried that before and it usually ends with requests for money for a variety of needs. Some even claim they are kicked out of their house. How they managed to stay in that house before they met me boggles my mind.

I used to send money but nowadays I have learned to say NO and cease contact if they are insistent. Can always find another one I reason myself. But they all come back and want to be with me on my visit. No, not kicked out of the house and do not look starved!

Pay as you go is good. Absolutely no problem finding a new one to be with on a visit. If everything falls apart there is always EDSA, LA cafe, Malls-.

[Gangles]

As you say, often / usually, the pinay are not being entirely truthful about something or other.

Sounds like many / most of the guys here.

How many AR being absolutely truthful?

It is a game.

I see it as a kind of blender, where men and women step in, and sometimes come out with someone who is just right.

But mostly is not just right.

Happy mongering,

G


Hmm. Well, I'd offer a little different perspective. I wouldn't say they are a joke just because you're not finding model-tier girls that are willing to fuck a stranger, monied or otherwise. First off, I rarely see model-tier's in person, or on the sites. (I'm not in Manila). Secondly, I don't know what you consider a 7, but I would rate the one below about a 7 in looks. But I would say she's both hot and decent, and many would probably consider her a 9+. She's 18, beautiful, was a virgin when I met her. Now she's one of the most sensual, sexual, loving creatures I ever been with, and she shags like a pro. Says they watch sex videos on their cell phone because rumor has it that if you're no good in the sack, you WILL be sacked. And I'm in the lowest tax bracket and she don't care.

So I would say it's possible, but it may take a little on-the-ground work. I never spent more than a few hours a month, and never went out of my way. Also looks are deceiving, the pictures they post are more of a joke than the sites are. Some of the prettiest pictures belong to the funkiest of the girls, and some of the plainest pics belong to some of the hottest.

And they have no idea what their weight is. 42 kilograms means 55. And they lie about their age. This one said she was 22 but she's 18. I met one that was plain looking in her picture and listed as 24 yo. She showed up and she was unreal hot. Smoking little college student in her Catholic uniform, all of 17 years old. I asked her why she said she was 24, she said because 17 is too young. I said I agree, see you in January for your Devo.

[Member #4387]

Prework for an upcomming phil trip can look like this. The extras at the bottom are girls living close and are excellent substitutes if someone from my original sched failes to show up.

Anyone else doing legwork like this. I like it old and fashioned (pen and paper).

[Mr Enternational]

I used to send money but nowadays I have learned to say NO... Can always find another one I reason myself. But they all come back and want to be with me on my visit. No, not kicked out of the house and do not look starved!

Pay as you go is good. Absolutely no problem finding a new one to be with on a visit. If everything falls apart there is always EDSA, LA cafe, Malls-.Those are my exact thoughts. When in the history of P4P has a chick ever not come to see a guy when he was in town because he refused to send her remittances? When that live money hits town you best believe she will be there with bells on. And if 2 guys just happen to hit town at the same time she is going to go with the one who she thinks she can get the most from at that particular moment. She is not going to remember the consistent x pesos that was sent every month that added up to whatever. That money is already spent and forgot about. And by remote chance that she doesn't show up, then like Sammon said, it is so easy to find another. They are a dime a dozen and if all else fails you have those back-up venues.

[Engine Driver]

Prework for an upcomming phil trip can look like this. The extras at the bottom are girls living close and are excellent substitutes if someone from my original sched failes to show up.

Anyone else doing legwork like this. I like it old and fashioned (pen and paper).Amazing!

You, Call Sign Papa and Hutsori should publish a field guide to getting freebie action in the Philippines. You could include such topics as how to navigate social media and dating websites (a section each on FB, DIA, FC, CL, WeChat, Instagram etc), creating believable profiles (which are obviously fake), Pinay psychology, picking up Hi-so models, webcam interview techniques, best lies to use in conversation, how to interpret Pinay answers and sob stories, use of pimpettes, bribing housekeeping staff, best bars and clubs to hang out in, ongoing sponsorship etc. The final chapter should be on forensic cleaning of the room so that all those black hairs are picked up off the bathroom floor! Even if you charged a couple of dollars per download, it would keep you in the mongering lifestyle which you have become accustomed to.

A few veterans might remember this book from about 20 years ago. Pre-ISG days, I used it when I was based in Asia at that time. Although Lee Kwan Yew had rather draconian laws which governed everything from chewing gum, durians to maid agency fees, I must say he was very pragmatic when it came to tolerating prostitution!

[FreebieFan]

Amazing!



A few veterans might remember this book from about 20 years ago. Pre-ISG days, I used it when I was based in Asia at that time. Although Lee Kwan Yew had rather draconian laws which governed everything from chewing gum, durians to maid agency fees, I must say he was very pragmatic when it came to tolerating prostitution!He privately admitted that there was prostitution in every Asian country. And he knew guys would go looking for it in Singapore. So he allowed Orchard Towers and Duxton Hill and a few other areas to thrive especially as it was non Singaporeans picking up other non Singaporeans.

So he kept the sweet saintly Singaporeans safe and the foreigners did their thing without causing distress to the Singaporean maidens. The same ethos is still in place today. Thats why OT is still tolerated.

[Wolvenvacht]

Anyone else doing legwork like this. I like it old and fashioned (pen and paper).Preparation is key! And then using such modern utensils as pen & paper! I expected you to use a quill and parchment. But hey, we have to go with the flow of times. What will they invent next?

[Engine Driver]

So he kept the sweet saintly Singaporeans safe and the foreigners did their thing without causing distress to the Singaporean maidens. The same ethos is still in place today. Yes, so true. He even created a government run dating agency to "encourage" university educated professionals to date other university educated professionals, all while carefully maintaining the racial divide between the three ethnic groups. The only way couples could get a dispensation from the "one child policy" (and breed more kids) was if both parents were university educated professionals, presumably so that all of their highly intelligent offspring would become the future leaders of the country. And we thought Josef Mengele's social engineering was not that great! LOL.

(Sorry for being off topic).

[Pcpc1688]

Prework for an upcomming phil trip can look like this. The extras at the bottom are girls living close and are excellent substitutes if someone from my original sched failes to show up.

Anyone else doing legwork like this. I like it old and fashioned (pen and paper).Hey Skogis,

Can you email me a copy please LOL.

PC out.

[Member #4387]

Hey Skogis,

Can you email me a copy please LOL.

PC out.Hehe. Yes you can get a copy of the blurred one Others than that fishing pukie in Makati is extremely easy so every man on his own. Going on a heavy scheduel. Some will fall out and new ones will be added I am sure but it gives me atleast some perspective in how I will manage my days. Reason girls will drop out can just as well be due to me as I tend to get tired somewhere around the middle of my trips (this upcomming in few days are only 7 days long thanks God). The girl living the farest away lives in Pasay City so rescheduling them will be a breeze. Happy monger games.

[Pcpc1688]

Hey Skogis,

Can you email me a copy please LOL.

PC out.Well if you ever come to LOS Angeles Ca I will hook you up however the young beautiful K girls here are 250 LOL.

Which buys a lot on Pinay poontang.

PC out.

[James Bond 1]

You, Call Sign Papa and Hutsori should publish a field guide to getting freebie action in the Philippines.... Even if you charged a couple of dollars per download, it would keep you in the mongering lifestyle which you have become accustomed to.I'd pay at least $10 for it.

[Member #4387]

As some of you obviously have recognized I run quite a scheduel while feet on phil soil and this has raised a few questions along the way according to my inbox and its many questions. Mainly questions like how I manage to keep track and how I get normal "good" girls to come over just for a couple of hours and straight to fucking. Well, probably no big secret this involves quite a bit of lying, or should I say hiding the real truth.

Firstly when we agree to meet up they are designated to arrive a certain time. I stress this time factor heavily as one delayed girl could rotate my hole sched that day. This I have gotten a good grip on these days so many of the girls, sadly, infact arrives early. In our precom I have allready stated that I will stay in Manila only one day and leave the next day. I never promise any relationship but, and here the first lie comes, I say I recently broke with my GF (untrue) and therefore I am in desperate need of some girlie company to comfort me. I flirt and charm them but makes very little promises except from we will have a small inhouse party and maybe some roomservice etc etc. Hardly no need to be very upfront as when a girl arrives my hotel and inside my room, I can not remember fucking not took place. It all starts with a kiss, don't it? From there it is a walk in the park realy. My tribute to the asian girls (actually I find this to happen in other asian countries as well but lets stick to phils now).

And since I most likely have a busy scheduel the next lie arrives after fucking (normaly 1 or 2 times). I suddenly become very "occupied" as in I have to run. Here you fine gents can fill in almost every excuse excisting but "emergency back home so I have to leave in a hurry", "oh, my friend arrested by police, have to help him", "embassy party I forgot", "my lost baggage just arrived at the airport" etc etc.

Many of you fine gents will probably think I lure them girls into playtime but I object. Upfront they come from their own will and mostly they are not bottom feeders so they have both own mind and will. I don't say I make it easier for a gent meeting "my girl" later as she will come from this meeting a tad wicer, so to avoid any hickups I will upfront tell I am sorry.

Others than that it is not more tricky than making them girls like you and they realy want to meet you. In the beginning I let them have the power as if I am in desperate need of meeting them (excuses written above). I alter this eventually so I have the upper hand (in a nice way). I rotate them girls all nicely and this time I even will have one disabled one coming over bcs she contacted me and told me she did not have sex in 4 years. She looks perfectly fine but have one small foot. As the good Samaritan I am I thought "why not". My friend fucked one girl without legs, why can't I just jump in and assist.

I play only games with girls (ex my regulars and the mother of my phil daughter) but all in all I treat them nice. I find maybe some of you gents to be to addicted to P4 P as in hunting in bars etc. I find bars like that boring and out of my field of interest. I know I have been fucking some BG as well but that knowledge came to me after I did them. They met me under normal circumstances / conditions.

It may sem harsh but this is how I play. I interact good with girls (allways did), I am very cynical but play nice guy all the time. Girls love it. Ages from 18 to 39.

[Member #4387]

I have a brave little "flower" coming over to Fairmont. She is 18 so I give her the benefits of the doubt. She just called me and asked "what's the time over there your hotel?" I hope she will make our 2 pm appointment and I hope she is in phils.

The other day one girl texted me confirming our deal to meet up: "I come your place Sunday July 26 phil time"(its all straightened out now and we have an actual ETA).

[Mbsl65]

Whatever you do, play safe. Government has been very interested on foreigners who deals with [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) persons. So, don't get trapped into some sad situation. Check their age properly and be sure they are in legal age. Have fun.


I have a brave little "flower" coming over to Fairmont. She is 18 so I give her the benefits of the doubt. She just called me and asked "what's the time over there your hotel?" I hope she will make our 2 pm appointment and I hope she is in phils.

The other day one girl texted me confirming our deal to meet up: "I come your place Sunday July 26 phil time"(its all straightened out now and we have an actual ETA).

[Member #4387]

I am very strict in the ID department as well as I live in nice places also asks girls all the time. I appreciate that greatly. Last spinner 18 yo brought her passport, all fine.

[WestCoast1]

I am very strict in the ID department as well as I live in nice places also asks girls all the time. I appreciate that greatly. Last spinner 18 yo brought her passport, all fine.I like to have a photo of each girl's ID. In the same vein, I've been helping many of my regulars in the last 6 months to get the new Postal ID. I've insisted all my provincial regulars get one, even if they have the older Postal ID (or other ID). The new Postal ID is a requirement for other government items, such as a passport in phils (I've watched multiple girls be turned away for passport application because they have the older postal ID, or other ID). The post office often times wants the girls to have their 'cedula' (spelling?) with them, so I take the girl to the barangay first for that. Total cost for both cedula and Postal ID is just in under p500.

This rant might belong in the Advice / Opinions thread, but here goes. There seems to be a whole litany of ID's needed for certain things in phils. Girls often talk about getting their paperwork together necessary to apply for local jobs (foreign jobs require even more paperwork). There seems to be an ordinal pecking order for the ID's. A birth certificate first, then cedula, then other ID's, then passport, etc. What I find incredible is that I'm learning this the hard way, and so is every girl I've helped get the ID. One girl wanted to apply for a passport, so we went to do that. The passport office wanted a new Postal ID, so we went to the post office (we had to go twice; the first time we went the ID lady was taking an unannounced several hour break in the afternoon, which the post office guy told me she does routinely, she just comes / goes as she wishes without telling anyone, and they had NO IDEA when she would return). When we finally got the ID lady at the post office, she wanted a birth certificate and a cedula. We had to back up to the beginning and fetch the BC, then cedula, then apply at the post office (and wait 3 weeks to get the postal ID), then apply for the passport. Its incredulous for me to think that the girl, age 31, had no idea that it needed to be done in this order. Certainly rumor must fly as to how (what order) this must be done. Had she not looked on the website of the government passport agency (Dept Foreign Something-or-Other) first? No. None of them have bothered to check that. Pinoy are not stupid, I think we've covered that before, but this kind of thing is one of the things that makes them appear so. BTW, every girl I've ever helped with an ID has had the same problem: does not know what to bring to the government office to apply for the ID. One could easily look on the government's Dept-Foreign-Something-or-Other website, or just google 'Philippine Postal ID requirements', but this has never dawned on any pinay I've ever helped with requirements. Sadly, "google it" is not yet a full-blown pilipine slang term yet..

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

I did renew a paying membership to one of the famous Philippine dating sites. There are some real money diggers there. One of them even got banned while I was chatting with her, Some start asking for money within a few minutes after you did exchange Skype contact info. If you report they will open a new profile the next day.

I have been in Cebu once and Angeles City a few times. In AC you just have sex and pay but the atmosphere is usually boring.

I was thinking about going to another city directly after arrival in Manila (which is to big for me) The city needs an airport so I can fly there.

Want to stay there maximum two weeks so just need a few contacts. Don't need a beach, no typhoons either (going there in December).

Which cities could be interesting?

Sincere greetings, Frits.

P.S if you like you can share info by PM.

[X Man]

I like Cebu, and from Cebu you can take a fairly short trip by ferry to Ormoc or Tagbilaran or Dumaguete.

I'd also recommend you read up on Davao.

Which pay site are you using? X.


Hello,
I did renew a paying membership to one of the famous Philippine dating sites. There are some real money diggers there. One of them even got banned while I was chatting with her, Some start asking for money within a few minutes after you did exchange Skype contact info. If you report they will open a new profile the next day.

I have been in Cebu once and Angeles City a few times. In AC you just have sex and pay but the atmosphere is usually boring.

I was thinking about going to another city directly after arrival in Manila (which is to big for me) The city needs an airport so I can fly there.

Want to stay there maximum two weeks so just need a few contacts. Don't need a beach, no typhoons either (going there in December).

Which cities could be interesting?

Sincere greetings, Frits.

P.S if you like you can share info by PM.

[KongKing]

After a while of living in, or regularly visiting, the Philippines it no longer becomes a candy store; the sex becomes hardly deserving of a field report for each new experience. It just becomes rootine, oppps sorry, routine. But there are times when the experience is so out of this world, at least for me, that a special posting is deserving.

For two years I had been chatting to a Filipina, now 22 years old, who lives in the back-blocks of Mindanao, where the travel advisories say "don't go there". I discovered her on DateinAsia, until she was subsequently banned, apparently because she described herself as a Filipina with a "high sex drive". Our occasional chats, using YM, text and Viber, and her photos shared over two years, confirmed to me that her self-declared "high sex drive" was pretty close to the mark.

It was obvious she was pretty active, if not doing private sex cam activity, but also once in a while doing some tour guide hostessing. She shared with me her experiences and in particular her last year's trip with "Mr Brown" who roughed her up and pounded her so much that her pussy, she said, hurt for a couple of weeks. But she said she enjoyed it, including the rope, dog chains and spanking. My gosh, I was beginning to think maybe she was this one of Wicked Roger's girls!? LOL.

She said if we ever met she would lick my arse, tickle my prostate, and I could cum anywhere and do anything. Hard to turn down that invitation.

We never met until a recent burst of communication led me to do the exceptional and I sent her money to come and visit me. She travelled overnight, 8 hours on a bus, and was tired on arrival. But she wanted action and not sleep. I will let the pictures tell the story. She was open to everything (pic 1). She appreciated the sexy clothes I supplied (pic 2). She showed her appreciation in all ways, including a blow job in my car when I quickly parked the car in a quiet cul-de-sac, and still with the safety belt on! Example pics 3 and 4).

Our overnight sleep was somewhat spasmodic and in the morning I woke to find her in her own maid's outfit waiting and ready for more (pics 5 and 6). She told me that she wanted to get off 15 times, but she managed 8 times and was supplemented by her own vibrator (pic 7). She said she was not prepared to leave the vibrator at home in case her mother discovered it!

Now I am no Skogis, who would be a few decades younger than me, but in 36 hours I was able to get off 5 times and pretended after 20 minutes of fucking to get off another two times. But I must admit I was aided by a little purple capsule called "Robust Exreme" which works and is available at most Philippines pharmacies.

She is a remarkable girl. I discovered she is engaged and shortly to get married to an American. She was wearing a P80,000 engagement ring, which did some little damage to my back. She asked for nothing, and I gave her return transport costs, an hour or two with the hairdresser and cosmetician, some chocolate pasalubong and some naughty clothes. She even took home the aerosol cream whip which we forgot to apply copiously to her body!

I am now slowly recovering from the experience myself. I have never before had a thoroughly bruised pubic bone as a result of her heavy cow-girl thrusting!

KongKing.

[Member #4387]

First of all compliments to previous poster KK. Well running on quite a busy scheduel you run into some funny or frustrating communication with pinays. Its just a choice how you handle it. I admit I sometimes almost go out of my good skin from frustration but try hide it as best as possible. When those sweet pukies arrive its all forgotten. Along the way here are some examples:

"Hi", me "Hi", her, "Hello, me "Hello, her "how are you", me "I am fine", her "where are you", me "since you whould be here soon I am my hotel", her "which hotel again sir", "I told you google the hotel many days ago, did you google it? Her "yes but I forgot the name", me "where are now? Her "I am in the taxi now on my way your hotel", me "so you are on your way to a place you don't know where is? Her "yes", me "ok tell me when your outside", her "yes I will dear".

Ofcourse she was not on her way and as I did not tell her my hotels name she can still drive around in taxi for all I know. I called up a close by living girl who came in 15 min. She was not that high on my priotity list anyway.

Another girl in precom before my trip:

Her "where is your hotel" me "I tell her the name and that she was supposed to google it earlier (she confirmed she knew how to operate google map)", her "what will we do when we meet", me "you can review our chat history and my initial msg to you, its all there", her "I find you rude as you think I make up history"(she was refering to the word "history", she instinctively thought I was thinking she was lying), me "ok, bye".

A third girl on her way, lived Pasay and claimed she knew the area of my hotel very good:

Her: "I am in taxi now", me "ok just inform me when you are 15 min away"(this I do if I ie have a departing girl leaving or I need shower, this case was the last option), her "I will"(one minute later she send me this msg), her "I am here now", her "where are you", her "I am waiting in lobby", her "please answer" 10 minutes later I see another 10 new msg or so as I did throw my self in the shower prior to what I was supposed to. I know it can be hard to predict time and arrivals due to "trappic" issues but a living breathing creature should know what 15 min is like or maybe I am wrong.

Fourth girl:

We did have agreement I pick her up outside her callcenter 6 am in morning when her shift ends. She later confirmed she would travel my hotel alone instead of me fetching her. The day prior to our meet she textes me just to confirm our deal. Thats all good and I appreciate this. She ends the convo we still have deal I come fetch her outside her workplace. I told her she made another agreement yesterday and she would come by herself and I pick her up outside hotel entrance. Once again: her "I think you are rude sir, we made crystal clear agreement you fetch me outside my workplace at the Fort" me: "review our previous chats please and you will see you told me yesterday we made other agreement", 5 min later, her "oh sorry. See you tmrw outside hotel".

We have to be careful communicating these small cuties. They can be quite sensitive don't you think.

[WestCoast1]

Another girl in precom before my trip:

Her "where is your hotel" me "I tell her the name and that she was supposed to google it earlier (she confirmed she knew how to operate google map)", her "what will we do when we meet", me "you can review our chat history and my initial msg to you, its all there", her "I find you rude as you think I make up history"(she was refering to the word "history", she instinctively thought I was thinking she was lying), me "ok, bye".Other gents correct me if I'm wrong here. The girls often *appear* to have the memory of a gnat, both short-term and long-term. Just in the short-term, watch how they respond when you chat them online (say, YM). If you type one line (only!) and hit enter, then wait for her response, her response will be a legitimate answer. However, type one line (say, a question: do you know where XYZ hotel is?) and hit enter. Wait for her to formulate an answer. Before she replies, ask a second question (ie: willing to spend the night with me, nawty?) and hit enter. Finally when she replies, she will only reply to the last question, about spending the night. She probably never read the first question. You will have to re-ask that question. Or, if she read it, she cannot / will not be able to give two answers to the two different questions. Again, its frustrating, as you don't want to believe that this many girls could have the memory (or IQ) of a gnat, but that is the *appearance* that it gives.

Longer-term. Most pinay will remember (often times incorrectly, they will make things up) items from previous discussions -- only if it benefits them. Often times, once we meet (or just prior), they will tell me that I promised them something that I never promised. "You promise me you will bring chocolate pasalubong. . . " Nonsense, I rarely make promises, and I certainly never made one to this girl. A later review of our chat transcript will prove it. Also, many pinay have accused me of making up a history, but were proven wrong with a previous chat transcript: Sweetie, you really *did* say you would spend the night with me with nawty + pics: here is the chat transcript from just one week ago! If the item does not benefit the pinay, she will not remember it (or, later, she will confess that she lied originally).


A third girl on her way, lived Pasay and claimed she knew the area of my hotel very good:

Her: "I am in taxi now", me "ok just inform me when you are 15 min away"(this I do if I ie have a departing girl leaving or I need shower, this case was the last option), her "I will"(one minute later she send me this msg), her "I am here now", her "where are you", her "I am waiting in lobby", her "please answer" 10 minutes later I see another 10 new msg or so as I did throw my self in the shower prior to what I was supposed to. I know it can be hard to predict time and arrivals due to "trappic" issues but a living breathing creature should know what 15 min is like or maybe I am wrong.You might be very wrong about this. I find few pinay know either the walking, jeep, or taxi timeframe once on the road away from her own home. They are not familiar with landmarks. She might even by walking, with the hotel in sight (a few blocks away), and she might have little idea how long it will take her to walk there. It should not be more than a few minutes walk, but she will have no idea how to narrow that down to that specificity. And that's while she's walking, where its easy to see the hotel in the distance, and every landmark. If she's in a vehicle such as a jeep (the preferred mode of transport), its difficult to see about in all directions. Even when girls have been to the hotel before might have little idea of when they are "close" to the hotel. I thought one girl was taking the jeeps from QC to Malate to see me. We'd been together in that hotel on two previous occasions (right next to Robinson's). Instead she took the train, which drops off 4-5 blocks from the hotel. Once off the train, its an easy straight walk, and the hotel becomes visible. Her txt surprised me with: "Just off the train. Coming". At the time I was not sure what street she got off the train, so I didn't know she was just a few blocks away. I thought she was jeeping. I asked how long till she was at the hotel? "Coming". Yes, but can you give me a time, or a landmark where you are? "Later". Honey I want to know a specific time that you will be here (I had an appointment later in the day; if it was another hour till she arrived I was going to wave her off): "I don't know". A minute later the front desk called: Miss "M" is here. On another day she went for a morning walk with me (6:30 am). We crossed the street underneath the train, on our way back to the hotel, about 4 blocks away. She pointed to the train and said this is where she got off the train. We stopped walking for a moment. I pointed to the hotel up the street. Sweetie, how long will it take us to walk there? "I don't know. Soon". Was the best answer I could get from her. I came to realize that this girl did not have an understanding of the difference between 2 minutes and 5 minutes. Everything to her was (and is) "soon", "before", "till now", "later". Whereas most of us understand the concept of the working "man-hour", and punctuality, many pinay find those concepts literally foreign (and for foreigners only).

She will know the following (only): The area around her home, where she got into the initial jeep; the connecting jeep street; and the hotel entrance (the block the hotel is on). Everything in between might be a blur of blight to her. When you talk about 15 minutes away from the hotel, you are talking about her "blur" area.

[FritsVanegter]

Hello X man and the others,

Have been to Cebu so I wanted to try another city.

A lady in Zamboanga said it could be dangerous visiting that city being a white guy.

I can focus on Gen Santos or Davao for a while and see if I can get some contacts over there. I know some cities you could find nice girls in shopping malls but I don't know if the South of this country could be different.

Want to try meeting a few girls unless if I run into one really nice. Don't feel the need to sit at Jollibee with a complete family. Then it is better to just pay an early work release in AC.

Greetings, Frits.

PS oh the site was philipinokisses but I think they are all alike.

[Pcpc1688]

Other gents correct me if I'm wrong here. The girls often *appear* to have the memory of a gnat, both short-term and long-term. Just in the short-term, watch how they respond when you chat them online (say, YM). If you type one line (only!) and hit enter, then wait for her response, her response will be a legitimate answer. However, type one line (say, a question: do you know where XYZ hotel is?) and hit enter. Wait for her to formulate an answer. Before she replies, ask a second question (ie: willing to spend the night with me, nawty?) and hit enter. Finally when she replies, she will only reply to the last question, about spending the night. She probably never read the first question. You will have to re-ask that question. Or, if she read it, she cannot / will not be able to give two answers to the two different questions. Again, its frustrating, as you don't want to believe that this many girls could have the memory (or IQ) of a gnat, but that is the *appearance* that it gives.

Longer-term. Most pinay will remember (often times incorrectly, they will make things up) items from previous discussions -- only if it benefits them. Often times, once we meet (or just prior), they will tell me that I promised them something that I never promised. "You promise me you will bring chocolate pasalubong. . . " Nonsense, I rarely make promises, and I certainly never made one to this girl. A later review of our chat transcript will prove it. Also, many pinay have accused me of making up a history, but were proven wrong with a previous chat transcript: Sweetie, you really *did* say you would spend the night with me with nawty + pics: here is the chat transcript from just one week ago! If the item does not benefit the pinay, she will not remember it (or, later, she will confess that she lied originally).

You might be very wrong about this. I find few pinay know either the walking, jeep, or taxi timeframe once on the road away from her own home. They are not familiar with landmarks. She might even by walking, with the hotel in sight (a few blocks away), and she might have little idea how long it will take her to walk there. It should not be more than a few minutes walk, but she will have no idea how to narrow that down to that specificity. And that's while she's walking, where its easy to see the hotel in the distance, and every landmark. If she's in a vehicle such as a jeep (the preferred mode of transport), its difficult to see about in all directions. Even when girls have been to the hotel before might have little idea of when they are "close" to the hotel. I thought one girl was taking the jeeps from QC to Malate to see me. We'd been together in that hotel on two previous occasions (right next to Robinson's). Instead she took the train, which drops off 4-5 blocks from the hotel. Once off the train, its an easy straight walk, and the hotel becomes visible. Her txt surprised me with: "Just off the train. Coming". At the time I was not sure what street she got off the train, so I didn't know she was just a few blocks away. I thought she was jeeping. I asked how long till she was at the hotel? "Coming". Yes, but can you give me a time, or a landmark where you are? "Later". Honey I want to know a specific time that you will be here (I had an appointment later in the day; if it was another hour till she arrived I was going to wave her off): "I don't know". A minute later the front desk called: Miss "M" is here. On another day she went for a morning walk with me (6:30 am). We crossed the street underneath the train, on our way back to the hotel, about 4 blocks away. She pointed to the train and said this is where she got off the train. We stopped walking for a moment. I pointed to the hotel up the street. Sweetie, how long will it take us to walk there? "I don't know. Soon". Was the best answer I could get from her. I came to realize that this girl did not have an understanding of the difference between 2 minutes and 5 minutes. Everything to her was (and is) "soon", "before", "till now", "later". Whereas most of us understand the concept of the working "man-hour", and punctuality, many pinay find those concepts literally foreign (and for foreigners only).

She will know the following (only): The area around her home, where she got into the initial jeep; the connecting jeep street; and the hotel entrance (the block the hotel is on). Everything in between might be a blur of blight to her. When you talk about 15 minutes away from the hotel, you are talking about her "blur" area.This is what happens when head hits head board too many times in a row hard LOL or when you are playing 10 different white guys at once which makes things hard to remember.

PC out.

[D Cups]

This is what happens when head hits head board too many times in a row hard LOL or when you are playing 10 different white guys at once which makes things hard to remember.

PC out.Possibly but I find that most Pinays cannot handle more than one question at a time. Even the educated ones are dumbfounded by this. Perhaps all those blowjobs have replaced braincells of the lovely creatures.

[Member #4387]

Possibly but I find that most Pinays cannot handle more than one question at a time. Even the educated ones are dumbfounded by this. Perhaps all those blowjobs have replaced braincells of the lovely creatures.Yeah they don't excist in great numbers but a girl handling more than one question at a time I find so exotic in this country so she is most likely a must meet. During my recent trip I had a couple of them which was all great.

Another major factor we all could learn to know by know, as I obviously did a girl another BM recognized as one of his "good" girls, is that we don't have to put to much trust in these girls. Are they active users of social medias (datingsites, skypes, various apps you name it) they most likely will have more than one guy they meet. They will ofcourse stand out as good girls entertaining only one guy at the time and like me they lie their asses off to obtain this impression. Sometimes lies slaps them in the face though. In the given example the girl at stake was "chat lying" the fellow BM telling she was on her way out to meet some "college hubbies". Infact she was on her way over to meet me. I know for sure I never did go to college with her. Fellow BM recognized her by a pic I laid out in photogallery (once again this happens) later. Me and BM straightened this out through PM and since this will happen from time to time we should not pay so much attention to what this girls are saying. They just play the game from their side and we from our side. After all it is just a game and I want nothing to with pinays in any serious level (maybe I am lucky that way). For those who interracts on a more serious level I wish you all the best of luck. You will probably need it.

I strongly thinks the keyfactor is the use of social media and how active they are.

[Pcpc1688]

Possibly but I find that most Pinays cannot handle more than one question at a time. Even the educated ones are dumbfounded by this. Perhaps all those blowjobs have replaced braincells of the lovely creatures.Strange it even happens here in the USA LOL.

PC out.

[Hutsori]

Other gents correct me if I'm wrong here. The girls often *appear* to have the memory of a gnat, both short-term and long-term. No matter when they happened it seems to me these girls remember all of my transgressions very well.


I find few pinay know either the walking, jeep, or taxi timeframe once on the road away from her own home. They are not familiar with landmarks. Yes, this seems to be the case. Even for blokes. I think some of this may be do to the idea of passenger and driver orientation. By and large most Filipinos are life-long passengers. When I was a regular driver elsewhere I was very attentive to routes, landmarks, etc. This carries over to being a passenger; I used to really pay attention to routes. But over the years of being a full-time passenger here I am more likely to go with the flow, I'm less attentive. Sitting in a jeep with Filipinos I see they are chatting with a friend, or staring at their mobile, or dozing off. Ride the bus; the curtains are always closed. You don't see Filipinos focusing their attention outside the window. The Pinays I know who drive their own cars regularly tend to be more attentive to landmarks and routes. Perhaps wealth has an impact. If you always have money in your pocket you may develop a consumer's view, looking at your environment, acquiring information, and judging the availability of consumption options. If one rarely has disposable income in their pocket perhaps the impetus to gather consumer info is less strong. Maybe being a foreigner here also leads us to be more observant as we try gain understanding of where we are and the threats / opportunities.

To be fair I myself am a poor judge of distance, speed, and estimating time to walk or ride somewhere.


I asked how long till she was at the hotel? "Coming". Yes, but can you give me a time, or a landmark where you are? "Later". Honey I want to know a specific time that you will be here (I had an appointment later in the day; if it was another hour till she arrived I was going to wave her off): "I don't know". She will know the following (only): The area around her home, where she got into the initial jeep; the connecting jeep street; and the hotel entrance (the block the hotel is on). Everything in between might be a blur of blight to her. When you talk about 15 minutes away from the hotel, you are talking about her "blur" area.Yes, the "blur area" is a good description. Her starting point, i.e. home, is important and the destination is important. Everything in between is of little importance.

[James Bond 1]

PS oh the site was philipinokisses but I think they are all alike.I haven't used that site but I can tell from its web traffic stats that it's likely to be less useful than other sites talked about on here: it's not very popular and its visitors seem to come from everywhere but the Philippines.

[FreebieFan]

Yes, this seems to be the case. Even for blokes. I think some of this may be do to the idea of passenger and driver orientation. By and large most Filipinos are life-long passengers. When I was a regular driver elsewhere I was very attentive to routes, landmarks, etc. This carries over to being a passenger; I used to really pay attention to routes. But over the years of being a full-time passenger here I am more likely to go with the flow, I'm less attentive. Sitting in a jeep with Filipinos I see they are chatting with a friend, or staring at their mobile, or dozing off. Ride the bus; the curtains are always closed. You don't see Filipinos focusing their attention outside the window. The Pinays I know who drive their own cars regularly tend to be more attentive to landmarks and routes. Perhaps wealth has an impact. .Ones curiosity is also relevant. In one amazing but true case, I was driving around the back streets of Rockwell looking for a street. I knew I was close but wasnt sure. See a security guy sand another guy chatting. Stop the car and " oi pare, saan. Whatever street. ". Security guard says its to the left, then two blocks down. Man says no its to the right and right again. I'm confused to I get out the car, and see they are standing under a street sign. AND its the street that I wanted. Two blokes had no idea of the name of the street they are on. Possibly normal in Philippines. Very abnormal for a Westerner I think.

[Mogwai]

Yes, this seems to be the case. Even for blokes. I think some of this may be do to the idea of passenger and driver orientation. By and large most Filipinos are life-long passengers. When I was a regular driver elsewhere I was very attentive to routes, landmarks, etc. This carries over to being a passenger; I used to really pay attention to routes. But over the years of being a full-time passenger here I am more likely to go with the flow, I'm less attentive. Sitting in a jeep with Filipinos I see they are chatting with a friend, or staring at their mobile, or dozing off. Ride the bus; the curtains are always closed. You don't see Filipinos focusing their attention outside the window. Nevertheless they know where they have to get off. So apparently they DO pay attention to where they are somehow. If you are living in a place for years already you don't have to focus so much anymore on where you are exactly. A short peek out of the window is all you need.

[Wicked Roger]

No matter when they happened it seems to me these girls remember all of my transgressions very well...I agree Huts. Especially if she knows you have been shagging her sister on the quiet or taken 2 of her good friends for a debauched weekend away. Not unlike most women IMHO but unlike many she does forgive (but maybe never forget).

[Pinaypounder]

Prework for an upcomming phil trip can look like this. The extras at the bottom are girls living close and are excellent substitutes if someone from my original sched failes to show up.

Anyone else doing legwork like this. I like it old and fashioned (pen and paper).One of my excel spreadsheets eventually became a court document!

PP.

[Pantot]

Prework for an upcomming phil trip can look like this. The extras at the bottom are girls living close and are excellent substitutes if someone from my original sched failes to show up.

Anyone else doing legwork like this. I like it old and fashioned (pen and paper).


One of my excel spreadsheets eventually became a court document!

PP.I use an excel spreadsheet as well. Its better for me than paper as it is such a fluid document leading up to my trip. Easy to cut and paste. I map out the cities and the girls in each city and sort of rank them. Comes in handy if something falls through or a new one doesn't pan out.

I also use an Outlook monthly calender. I put in my travel dates and cities and hotels and flight schedule and list the girls in each city. Part of my legwork leading up to a trip is asking the girls what is the first day of thier period the months before I arrive. So then I use the 4 week recurrance feature. Hey I know its not an exact science but it has worked for me. I used to do this mainly to avoid their fertility peaks as these girls tend to be very nubile. Since my vasectomy solved that issue, now its only to avoid seeing them when they are on the rag. Taking a girl to a resort for a few days only to have her announce on her arrival that "I just got my monthly" is a real downer.

I try to mitigate that lately by making sure she brings her cousin, neighbor, etc. Definitely the best is to have 3 girls especially province girls. That way while you are with 1 girl the other two can keep each other company. 3 somes and foursomes can be fun. But I have found with these young province girls they want to be treated as special and if you fuck them seperately, there is some plausability of making each one think she is your favorite. So having two rooms seems to be the best way to keep them all happy.

Then I leave the last few days open for visiting AC, where you don't need much advance thinking to have a great time.

[X Man]

Hello, I'll be in Philippines (MNL, AC, CEB) later this month. I'm using DIA, PL, Tagged. Would anyone like to share lady notes via pm?

For example, there is a MNL call center gal on Tagged with some sexy pictures. She tells me she recently quit her job. Oh, lucky me! Going back to an early exchange I find that I have her FB. Guess what? Yes, newborn baby. I scratched her off my list, but maybe you'd like to try a lactating gal. LOL.

I'd rather not name specific women in the public forums. Unless she's really bad news.

I just cleaned out my mailbox a bit. Sorry if anyone tried to pm me recently. I didn't realize it was full. X.

[Mbsl65]

She says that she a newsreporter / writer. I am sure someone I would stay away to avoid to be in her articles.

https://www.dateinasia.com/Lexxi+Dawn.

Name: Lexxi Dawn.

[Hutsori]

I think this has been introduced within the last day or two.

When viewing a profile you'll see this info now:


Visitors today: xx
Visitors last 30 days: xx
Interests received today: xx
Interests received last 30 days: xx

And yes, your numbers are viewable too.

[Mbsl65]

I think this has been introduced within the last day or two.

When viewing a profile you'll see this info now:



And yes, your numbers are viewable too.I already got accused for being too popular. Thanks but no thanks DIA.

[Hutsori]

In private messages I've been asked to give babies, but I don't recall ever seeing the request broadcast to the world in a girl's public profile.


A man who will give me a baby my phone number is +639xxxxxxxxx.(digits redacted by me)Yes, she's unattractive. Those of you who are compelled to procreate and who are unconcerned about looks check out DIA.

Moving on, the other day I wrote about changes to DIA. The site has modified these a bit. The below explanations are DIA's.


My username replies selectively.

Note: This info is shown because you reply to less than 60% of messages sent to you.

Visitors today: xx.
Visitors last 30 days: xx.
Interests received today: xx.
Interests received last 30 days: xx.

Note: Only high stats (stats marked with golden seals) are shown to others. High stats are best achieved by using a respectable photo of yourself, by writing a good, informative and friendly profile, and by visiting and messaging other members.

Remember: The more active you are, the more you will get noticed. Less active profiles are less visible on this site.

[Member #4387]

I am working my way around my fake fb at times and the funny part is that even if we are just friends through facebook (nothing to do with real friendship at all in my book) some of the earliest girls I added (or oposite) are now pushing me for meet ups. Some were reluctant to meet right away so they have just quietly been placed in the background. After spending many months up to a year all passive as friends in fb meeting me in my hotel is suddenly OK. The frase "we have been friends so long time now so I trust you are a good guy" is commonly used by the sweet pinaycrowd out there. Well well works for me even if I don't have a clue who they are and we maybe just shared the "Hi, hellos, how are you, I am fine, etc" crap earlier / long time ago.

By "strange pinays" here I don't mean it in a bad way to you phil defenders out there (here I defend them myself as I am after their pukies).

[Pcpc1688]

Me: Hi are you free today at 8 pm?

Her: Sure what hotel are you at.

M: I'm at blah blah hotel.

H: sure what time?

M: 8 pm.

H: Ok what hotel sir?

M: Blah blah.

H: ok no problem.

M: please bring your own condoms.

8 pm.

Me: are you near yet.

H: I am very close.

9 pm.

Me: where are you?

H: I am really close.

945 pm.

M: why are you not here yet.

H: I just left my house in Bumfuck Phils.

M: Really you said 8 pm no problem wtf?

H: sorry sir I am really close.

M: ok just come up to Room 1234 when you get here.

1030 pm.

M: where are you.

H: I'm almost there.

M: really?

H: what hotel are you at?

M: Blah blah hotel.

H: what room are you in?

M: God you are dumb as a deaf rock ughhhh

1130pm
H: ding dong
M: well I see you made it, did you bring condoms?
H: what condoms? Lol
M: it never ends does it lol

So I know this maybe harsh but enough already huh LOL. The typical 3-5 HR masquerade to bang a Pinay women.

Skoggie, I need your methods as they seem to be less time consuming haha.

PC out.

[Member #4387]

So I know this maybe harsh but enough already huh LOL. The typical 3-5 HR masquerade to bang a Pinay women.

Skoggie, I need your methods as they seem to be less time consuming haha.

PC out.First of all I laugh my ass off reading this as we all have been through this sometimes. Second you better watch out for the phil defenders as they can start hammering away excusing the pinays "its just a part of their culture", "its just how phil time works" and all that crap etc. I don't care so much about the culture or philtime as I am here for the fresh pukies (as well as some minor baby watching).

I also stress upfront they need to have load. But by far the most valuable explanation my girls being on time is that I mostly choose girls from Makati and its close surroundings. If stunning beauties from more remote locations pops up as in a must meet I can stress the girls to start travelling 4-5 hrs prior to our meeting. Sometimes this is so successful as they show up an hour or two early. I will be in the middle of a session by then so I just keep them waiting with some lame excuses / lies. The worst case I ever experienced was a pair of birds travelling from Colacoon (or sth) and we agreed meeting 11 am. 5 am I got a text "we travel now so we will be on time, you know trappic". Of course my response was: "if you arrive early just sit in the park or do some window shopping. I try come down pick you by 10:30 am"(of course I did have a sleeping beauty next to me and did nit feel letting her go without more sleep and a morning shag).

My MO seems to work and sometimes to good as described above good luck. Its all a game.

[Pcpc1688]

Skoggs.

It's comical almost hysterical what needs to be done so they can make money LOL.

Anyhow I have at least 50 emails on Philo Cupid but once again it's a lot of work.

PC out.

[Hutsori]

Some were reluctant to meet right away so they have just quietly been placed in the background. After spending many months up to a year all passive as friends in fb meeting me in my hotel is suddenly ok. The frase "we have been friends so long time now so I trust you are a good guy" is commonly used by the sweet pinaycrowd out there. Well well works for me even if I don't have a clue who they are and we maybe just shared the "Hi, hellos, how are you, I am fine, etc" crap earlier / long time ago.
Yes, this is very true. I wrote about this here some time ago. Always keep the communication friendly and pleasant, even if it's a bit sexy don't be vulgar unless she directs it that way - some girls do. So many guys are too impatient and want the immediate pay off of a cam show. If a girl doesn't cooperate the fella sends her an ill-tempered message and she blocks him. Never burn bridges, even if the girl is rude or ignores your message. Many other men waste the girl's time for weeks or months with promises of a Philippine visit that never happens. Girls who visited my profiles, saw they were about sex (except DIA) and weren't interested, later become interested. Often this is because they've been burnt by some other guy or have grown weary of the same old modus operandi. Granted, there are advantages to living here, but not exclusively so. If you visit a few times a year you have the time to cultivate and groom. Periodically (no more than once a month) send a short 3-4 sentence message (more than "Hi, w'sup?

[Hutsori]

Me: Hi are you free today at 8 pm?

945 pm.

1030 pm.

1130pm
Ding dong.
So I know this maybe harsh but enough already huh LOL. The typical 3-5 HR masquerade to bang a Pinay women.

A few things. With new, never-met-before girls I emphasize my expectation they be on time. I tell them that I won't wait long, and I make sure they understand it. But I don't repeat the same be-on-time message. I have a good idea how long it will take them to travel to my place, and I mention this: "It'll take you about 2 hours to get here, so text me at 6 pm when you leave." (I don't deal with girls living outside Metro Manila unless I know they are coming here for some other reason, such as work, travel, ceremony, etc.) At 5 pm or so I'll send a text reminding them that they need to leave soon. If I get a reply soon after, "Yes, I'm fixing myself," things often will go smoothly. No answer? Send again 15-20 minutes later. This time telling her I expect a reply. If 6 pm passes and no contact I start working on meeting those girls I already know. I don't yet cut the first girl until I know I have her replacement. Then I send a text to her canceling the meeting.

There are a few other things to consider. I will have already sent her a message with instructions including google map how to get to my place. Earlier I asked her how she'll come. Even when she tells me she 'knows' I assume she doesn't. She may be coming from work and can't text from the office; I will have gotten that type of info from her in earlier conversation. I'll also know if she has a pre- or postpaid mobile. When it's prepaid, and she hasn't replied, I'll send her a 5p load just so she doesn't have the no-load-couldn't-reply excuse.

I think a lot girls get away with make-the-guy-wait gambit because your predecessors have allowed it. Many girls I've met told me this clearly when I asked. These are girls I know from several meetings, so they are less inclined to lie all the time, only 60 per cent of the time. Because I placed importance on promptness by addressing it a few different ways they knew I was serious. Some of those who received the cancel message later contact me for a reschedule. A few sent pissed-off messages. Their mistake.

[Mua Tur]

PcPc,

I enjoyed your post.

But always it was not funny if we are not relaxing in hotel room. Once I invited a girl to visit with me to Baguio. I told her to arrive Genesis Bus terminal at Pasay. She said she can arrive in time. Hours past, I am waiting for her in bus terminal than she texted please send me the details again. I texted "just right side of the Taft Ave. MRT. Behind the Hotel Sogo, Edsa Coner. Genesis bus terminal. From where the Airport loop line buses departs for Airport". Hours past she texting again where are you, I sent the address again and again. Then her phone call with crazy voice "where are you? I am in Edsa". God knows which Edsa she mean. Than I asked her to give the phone to the taxi driver let me explain him.

Finally she arrived, but already I pissed off and canceled the Baguio plan.

[Mogwai]

M: please bring your own condoms.
Why do you want them to bring (and pay for...) condoms? Just wondering. Seems odd to me.

[Pcpc1688]

At 5 pm or so I'll send a text reminding them that they need to leave soon. If I get a reply soon after, "Yes, I'm fixing myself," things often will go smoothly. No answer? Send again 15-20 minutes later. This time telling her I expect a reply. If 6 pm passes and no contact I start working on meeting those girls I already know. I don't yet cut the first girl until I know I have her replacement. Then I send a text to her canceling the meeting.

Seems like I did this all except for the 5 p load.

This must be the secret than Huts.

PC out.

[Simmer]

Why do you want them to bring (and pay for...) condoms? Just wondering. Seems odd to me.

Maybe the smaller Asian condoms fit him better {grin}

[Pcpc1688]

Maybe the smaller Asian condoms fit him better {grin}Why would you make a wise ass comment and you don't even who I am. WTF is your problem pal? I know you must be insecure and prolly alittle over weight Caucasian male huh??? Oh yea with receding hair line too that when going to get his shoes shined just takes their word for it? (GRIN)

PC out.

[Member #4351]

with receding hair line too that when going to get his shoes shined just takes their word for it? (GRIN)
I don't understand.

[Hutsori]

Seems like I did this all except for the 5 p load.

This must be the secret than Huts.

PC out.Really? You did all that, eh? You sent her a text long before 8 pm canceling the meeting? You didn't mention that. Why then were you still texting her over several hours throughout the evening whilst sitting alone in your hotel room? Something entertaining on the telly you couldn't bear to pull yourself away from?

If you did all that and were still waiting at 1130 pm for a 8 pm hookup then it seems to me you are at peace with or perhaps enjoy waiting around, you were just not yet conscious of it. Now you are. Ah, enlightenment. Or maybe you're a compulsive eccentric, enthusiastic about texting "Where r u?" frequently.

If you have a high tolerance for a girl's passive-aggressive bullshit you will find plenty of it. Yes, some girls are genuinely forgetful or even stupid. Many more smartly play the role when it suits their purpose - consider it a ruse. Maybe she's a juggler; I wouldn't be surprised to learn to she was hooking up with some other fella whilst you sat in your room. That girl now knows that you're the type who will simply wait for three and one-half hours. She might shoot for five next time.

There is a point in the evening when a line is crossed. On one side of the line it's the girl is inconsiderate; on the other side of the line it's I'm a fool for accepting this. That line was 8:30 pm.

[BeachBoy46]

Pcp enjoyed your post. It is so typical of almost all my attempts to arrange a meeting. One particular one comes to mind. Excuse me if it sounds similar to yours. Invited a young lady who had spent the night to return for a swim in my hotel pool. Asked if she could bring two friends. Of course. Arranged she and friends would arrive 1 pm. I go to pool and take a poolside table and await the bikini lovelies:

Me I have nice table. Seeyou soon.

G. ok.

Me. 130 pm. Hello.

G. We coming baby.

Me 2 pm: where are you.

G. just finish washing clothes.coming now.

Me. WTF what washing.

G. Ok baby coming now.

Me. 230 pm Are you coming or not. Already had 4 beers.

G. Almost there.

G. Where are you.

Me 3 pm. WTF what do you mean. You were here last night.

G. Love you almost there.

G 315 pm Where are you now.

Me Fuck this I'm still sitting where you said you would be 2 hrs ago, doing a very good impersonation of a stale bottle of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).

G. Huh?

Me. Forget it I'm going to Phillies to get pissed.

Without a word of a lie the three of them roll up to phillies at 405 pm as if all was sweet. Of course I weakened, bought some drinks, back for a swim, something to eat and two of the three stayed the night. A happy ending to a nightmare beginning.

It is my personal opinion that they don't listen to a single word we say. In one ear and out the other then back to dreamtime.

[D Cups]

Humorous and all too familiar, BeachBoy. You have to train them with consequences for failure and reinforcement for success. RK works there so his colleagues know bettter but the rest of us have to train the girls. They're already sex-trained but willing to explore more in that area. So, you are two for three. Very good!


Pe..

[WestCoast1]

I know you must be insecure and prolly alittle over weight Caucasian male huh??? Oh yea with receding hair line too Dammit. Have we met? Haha.

[Hutsori]

Yes, it looks and sounds like English, but it isn't.




G. Almost there.

Means she's on the same planet as you. And hasn't left yet.



G. Huh?Means she has just awakened from a nap.



It is my personal opinion that they don't listen to a single word we say. In one ear and out the other then back to dreamtime.Because...



Of course I weakened...Voilà!

And who says it's a man's world? ;)

[Red Kilt]

<SNIP>

There is a point in the evening when a line is crossed. On one side of the line it's the girl is inconsiderate; on the other side of the line it's I'm a fool for accepting this. That line was 8:30 pm.Huts is correct. I am amazed that so many guys bang on and on here on the forum about girls being late etc but then admit that they still accept their arrival 3 or 4 hours later and it's business as usual. I have lost count of the number of meetings that I have cancelled because the girl was 30 minutes late and gave me no reason why. That's my limit, UNLESS I get a very feasible reason for the delay. I just cancel. End of story.

These girls are treating guys with exactly the same indifference and lack of consideration that has driven most of these guys to visit the Philippines thinking they are escaping similar treatment from their partners in the home country. Isn't being treated like sh*t at home why most guys travel and seek filipinas as companions?

If a girl is 3 hours late and the guy still meets her, shows her a good time and rewards her as well, then, as Huts says, she will do it again and again, and probably make it 4 hours next time.

[Member #4387]

Huts is correct. I am amazed that so many guys bang on and on here on the forum about girls being late etc but then admit that they still accept their arrival 3 or 4 hours later and it's business as usual. I have lost count of the number of meetings that I have cancelled because the girl was 30 minutes late and gave me no reason why. That's my limit, UNLESS I get a very feasible reason for the delay. I just cancel. End of story.

These girls are treating guys with exactly the same indifference and lack of consideration that has driven most of these guys to visit the Philippines thinking they are escaping similar treatment from their partners in the home country. Isn't being treated like sh*t at home why most guys travel and seek filipinas as companions?

If a girl is 3 hours late and the guy still meets her, shows her a good time and rewards her as well, then, as Huts says, she will do it again and again, and probably make it 4 hours next time.Word man. For every punter putting up with delays the girls get used to this. They have a sloppy view of time anyway so no need to put up with this. This was actually why I started to book girls on a frequent schedule in the first place. As in if a girl arrived late and I cancelled on her I did not have to wait more than 2 hrs maximum for the next girl. As I developed my mongering and communication with them girls I moved more towards only fixing me up with close by living girls and girls who I got a nice vibe with. Still, as in my earlier postings, I stress time, time and time again (not the way Huts do it but my way seems to work fine as well to me).

Sometimes like other seasoned punters here I can put up with latecomers if they inform me upfront and their excuses are reliable. This goes only for overnighters as if they arrive 11 pm or midnight really does not matter as I have no more schedule that day anyway. Overnighters are always well screened girls and worth fucking big time.

[Member #4387]

I have been heavily into phils the last 3-4 years now with 10-15 visits each year. I've met loads of girls (exact numbers will be tough to confirm but calling it loads is not lying). The most stupid girl I've ever met must have been this one:

Met her first staying at the New World Manila Bay (former Hyatt) and our first meet went smooth as clockwork. She arrived on time and we had a bedblast out of another dimension. I ticked her into my repeat list before she left.

Two days later we made arrangements to meet up (what a lovely pukie). I told her same place, same arrangements as last time. She was more than happy to meet me again. Please be advice it was only 2 days ago she met me at the hotel mentioned above.

We communicate as she's on her way. Everything seems to go according to plan. She text me she's in the lobby, I go down to the same in lobby pick up spot we met 2 days earlier. No girl to be seen (at least not the one I was looking for). I text her and she claims she is in the lobby and I get many "where are you now?" This goes back and forth several times until I ask her "which hotel are you at? She tells me she's at the Pan Pacific. By now I have maybe mentioned the name of my hotel like numerous of times, I just had to sit down and breath as in calm myself down before trying to, in a nice way explain: "you are at the wrong hotel dear".

2 days prior to this she arrived here as the mentioned clockwork, no worries. 2 days later she has no idea where I am at bcs I did not mention the hotel I just said I stayed "same place" and she told me the usual phil "ok, see you soon dear / honey". Be aware when a phil girl goes all "OK", the OK can mean the following: No, I don't have a clue, yes, I understand, I have no idea what you talk about etc etc. So to you all fine gents in here and I guess most of you have gotten replies to your questions being the "OK". I will hereby underline to confirm with the girls what is OK? An OK answer simply isn't enough in phils. In Norway it never failes but here it can.

Phil defenders; once again this isn't complaints towards the general population. I just want mongers to be aware as in a heads up what might happens. And of course i know the fact maybe she has so many punters so her mind goes all into overload mode at times or she just delayed the hole event bcs she happened to have a punter she just did at the Pan Pacific, who knows. Even so stupid:-)

[Pinaypounder]

Huts is correct. I am amazed that so many guys bang on and on here on the forum about girls being late etc but then admit that they still accept their arrival 3 or 4 hours later and it's business as usual. I have lost count of the number of meetings that I have cancelled because the girl was 30 minutes late and gave me no reason why. That's my limit, UNLESS I get a very feasible reason for the delay. I just cancel. End of story.

These girls are treating guys with exactly the same indifference and lack of consideration that has driven most of these guys to visit the Philippines thinking they are escaping similar treatment from their partners in the home country. Isn't being treated like sh*t at home why most guys travel and seek filipinas as companions?

If a girl is 3 hours late and the guy still meets her, shows her a good time and rewards her as well, then, as Huts says, she will do it again and again, and probably make it 4 hours next time.Fil woman are not like Western women and thank god for that. They are different VERY fucking different, until they are taught that being on time is relevant and IMPORTANT and means respect then they will not be on time because it simply doesn't matter to their culture, tomorrow today what the heck.

I am amazed at how a Filipina will wait for anything and it never ever bugs them, some one being 5 minutes late makes me crazy (I think we need to change a little) but to a filipina being a day late is the way things are. They don't plan they don't anticipate they just ARE! And they are happy with this.

Annoying as it is it has some desirable traits, it is indeed a double edged sword! They are not treating us poorly they are treating us like we are the same!

PP.

[GoodEnough]

I am amazed at how a Filipina will wait for anything and it never ever bugs them, some one being 5 minutes late makes me crazy (I think we need to change a little) but to a filipina being a day late is the way things are. They don't plan they don't anticipate they just ARE! And they are happy with this.
PP.Cultural differences regarding the value of time notwithstanding, my standard rule--be it for business or any other scheduled meeting--is never to wait more than 15 minutes for anyone. I've adhered to this precept for years, and have walked away from several scheduled meetings here and elsewhere when the person with whom I was supposed to meet did not show up. The most recent application of the rule was last week, though that was for business and not pleasure. I won't accept "traffic" as an excuse either.

GE.

[Pcpc1688]

I don't understand.Let me clarify this statement.

Getting ones shoes shined and take their word for it merely means that ones belly is too large or overlapping waistline and that he cannot see his feet.

PC out.

[Pcpc1688]

I have been heavily into phils the last 3-4 years now with 10-15 visits each year. I've met loads of girls (exact numbers will be tough to confirm but calling it loads is not lying). The most stupid girl I've ever met must have been this one:

Met her first staying at the New World Manila Bay (former Hyatt) and our first meet went smooth as clockwork. She arrived on time and we had a bedblast out of another dimension. I ticked her into my repeatlist before she left.

Two days later we made arrangements to meet up (what a lovely pukie). I told her same place, same arrangements as last time. She was more than happy to meet me again. Please be advice it was only 2 days ago she met me at the hotel mentioned above.

Phil defenders; once again this isn't complaints towards the general population. I just want mongerers to be aware as in a heads up what might happens. And ofcourse i know the fact maybe she has so many punters so her mind goes all into overload mode at times or she just delayed the hole event bcs she happened to have a punter she just did at the Pan Pacific, who knows. Even so stupid:-)This sounds about right Skoggie LOL.

BTW, who are the Phils Defenders as it seems at least in the last few pages they haven't said anything to this issue?

PC out.

[Pcpc1688]

Dammit. Have we met? Haha.One day Westie in Cebu maybe at Js. LOL.

PC out.

[Dark Knight1]

Phil defenders; once again this isn't complaints towards the general population. I just want mongerers to be aware as in a heads up what might happens. And ofcourse i know the fact maybe she has so many punters so her mind goes all into overload mode at times or she just delayed the hole event bcs she happened to have a punter she just did at the Pan Pacific, who knows. Even so stupidNothing to defend. That's why the local women are loved by mongers across the globe due to their low intelligence which is translated to hospitality and caring. Even Filipino men who write into Dear Abby columns with drippy dricks will tell the author they acquired the drippy dick from a "hospitable" woman.

[Pcpc1688]

Really? You did all that, eh? You sent her a text long before 8 pm canceling the meeting? You didn't mention that. Why then were you still texting her over several hours throughout the evening whilst sitting alone in your hotel room? Something entertaining on the telly you couldn't bear to pull yourself away from?

If you did all that and were still waiting at 1130 pm for a 8 pm hookup then it seems to me you are at peace with or perhaps enjoy waiting around, you were just not yet conscious of it. Now you are. Ah, enlightenment. Or maybe you're a compulsive eccentric, enthusiastic about texting "Where r u?" frequently.

If you have a high tolerance for a girl's passive-aggressive bullshit you will find plenty of it. Yes, some girls are genuinely forgetful or even stupid. Many more smartly play the role when it suits their purpose - consider it a ruse. Maybe she's a juggler; I wouldn't be surprised to learn to she was hooking up with some other fella whilst you sat in your room. That girl now knows that you're the type who will simply wait for three and one-half hours. She might shoot for five next time.

There is a point in the evening when a line is crossed. On one side of the line it's the girl is inconsiderate; on the other side of the line it's I'm a fool for accepting this. That line was 8:30 pm.I did not cancel the meeting. Maybe this threat works better haha.

Anyway while in Cebu, the same song and dance routine was had. Maybe all Pinay women get together at nights to see what each other do too make things as frustrating as possible. One girl in Cebu a few nights ago hit her head on the head board really hard while jumping into bed with me. Perhaps that is the cause of their issues.

PC out.

[Member #4387]

This sounds about right Skoggie LOL.

BTW, who are the Phils Defenders as it seems at least in the last few pages they haven't said anything to this issue?

PC out.Reviewing your posts it seems me and you have and easygoing state of mind? I like that. It makes life a hole lot easier as I am here only for fun and not to dive into culture or customs. Even so there are a few points needed to be screamed out as a warning to, lets say, new members. Latecomming or pure stupidity are only two out of many obsticles you can encounter dealing with the lovely pinay pukies. There are more but it is latecomming, not that big an issue to me any more, but also the reason why I stress and stress this over and over again as my sched simply can not handle it (then it needs twist and turns and starting to rescheduel a pinay, well, I don't even want to go down that road as in writing how you can do that).

There are a big different in girls and how the value "time". My cabincrew girls are allways on time or early. They are used to "if your late you can loose your job" kind of thinking. Other educated ladies, lets take my mother of my phil baby as an excample, she was never late when we hooked up and learned how to create babies. She works now in big corporation where beeing late is unacceptable. When we met she worked at the Quezon city counsil as an official but still time was valuable.

Someone who did have the time and lust should dive into this matter. Since obviously time is not important to the general population we could maybe work out some theses on why phil is falling behind in the general picture. If I was supposed to earn like nothing for doing my job I would consider beeing on time as an evil thing and would be as late as possible.

The phil defenders have rested for a while but they probably did press the "ignore" button or sth on my posts so they can get a nice eve sleep. I never did mean to disrespect the hole population but I can admit it sometimes have sounded so. Peace and as pcp wpuld say:

Skoggy out.

[Dg8787]

S. Who are the Phil defenders you keep referring to? Anyone who has a different opinion or experience than you?

[Member #4387]

S. Who are the Phil defenders you keep referring to? Anyone who has a different opinion or experience than you?No sweetie. Just a couple of former guys having this nubile impression of phil people. My mistake was I may have generilized quite to much. Then I got like "your english stinks" and attacks following the same line. I did not pay to much attention as mongering is my main hobby but they probably, and rightfully so, ignore my postings. Best for all of us.

[Pcpc1688]

Reviewing your posts it seems me and you have and easygoing state of mind? I like that. It makes life a hole lot easier as I am here only for fun and not to dive into culture or customs. Even so there are a few points needed to be screamed out as a warning to, lets say, new members. Latecomming or pure stupidity are only two out of many obsticles you can encounter dealing with the lovely pinay pukies. There are more but it is latecomming, not that big an issue to me any more, but also the reason why I stress and stress this over and over again as my sched simply can not handle it (then it needs twist and turns and starting to rescheduel a pinay, well, I don't even want to go down that road as in writing how you can do that).

As easy I can be lol which at times can be uneasy dealing with these yung pukies...

There are a big different in girls and how the value "time". My cabincrew girls are allways on time or early. They are used to "if your late you can loose your job" kind of thinking. Other educated ladies, lets take my mother of my phil baby as an excample, she was never late when we hooked up and learned how to create babies. She works now in big corporation where beeing late is unacceptable. When we met she worked at the Quezon city counsil as an official but still time was valuable.

Someone who did have the time and lust should dive into this matter. Since obviously time is not important to the general population we could maybe work out some theses on why phil is falling behind in the general picture. If I was supposed to earn like nothing for doing my job I would consider beeing on time as an evil thing and would be as late as possible.

The phil defenders have rested for a while but they probably did press the "ignore" button or sth on my posts so they can get a nice eve sleep. I never did mean to disrespect the hole population but I can admit it sometimes have sounded so. Peace and as pcp wpuld say:

Skoggy out.Your still my idol Skoggie as I never seen a machine as yourself. I would be dead after #3 and then would have to rest a full 24 hrs LOL I am now taking Zinc 50 once a day. Maybe I can aspire to be half of you one day haha.

PC out.

[GoodEnough]

I'd like to address, just for the moment and at the risk of boring everyone, the whole issue of trust. I'm not judging anyone who comes here just to play and to screw as many adorable young women in as short a timeframe as possible. But those guys, no matter who, meet young women whose values, behaviors and attitudes may differ dramatically from the women with whom those of us who work and live here interact on a daily basis. Again, I'm not making any moral judgment at all. However there are Filipino (a) professionals with whom I work who are very close friends and with whom I would have no problems entrusting anything. These are not ladies whom intermittent visitors here would ever meet. They don't haunt social media sites; they don't hang out in bars; they're not waiting for a Western savior, and they have enormously high expectations of themselves. In short, they're confident, competent, with high self esteem, and happy with who they are.

Of all the frequent contributors to this forum, RK would understand precisely the class of women of which I speak. I've been here a long time, and I've got lots of friends who visit here regularly and focus exclusively on filling up their dance cards and good for them. However, I recoil from characterizing all Filipinas--particularly those delectable young things willing to screw your brains out after 5 minutes of bola bola--as universal. They are not, and never were archetypes of more educated and thoroughly professional Filipinas.

GE.

[Hutsori]

I recoil from characterizing all Filipinas--particularly those delectable young things willing to screw your brains out after 5 minutes of bola bola--as universal. They are not, and never were archetypes of more educated and thoroughly professional Filipinas.
Absolutely correct, GE.

They require seven minutes of bola bola ;)

Kidding aside, yes, there is a cadre of very well-educated, highly competent women here.


These are not ladies whom intermittent visitors here would ever meet. They don't haunt social media sites; they don't hang out in bars; they're not waiting for a Western savior, and they have enormously high expectations of themselves. In short, they're confident, competent, with high self esteem, and happy with who they are.I think you're mostly correct. It's possible for an intermittent visitor to meet a high-calibre woman, especially if he is based in the region such as HK or Singapore. Some women are on dating sites, using them intermittently. Certainly you won't find the girls in the bars frequented by most punters. Elsewhere, places where foreigners are rarer, it's still challenging to woo them conspicuously because of their fear of scandal; it is a small, tight-knit society that's notoriously gossipy. And once a place attracts foreigners of the type that think all Pinays are prostitutes, these women move on, finding other places to socialise. You want to offend and turn off a Filipina who until a few moments ago would have happily fucked you for free? Ask her "How much?" and treat her like a working girl. There are women who enjoy hookups and look to the foreign community for those because we're "safer" than Filipino men, i.e. we don't run in their social circles and we're more discreet.

[Mbsl65]

I'd like to address, just for the moment and at the risk of boring everyone,
GE.Well said. I concur.

[George03]

Question on OKCupid:

Which is bigger, the earth or sun.

Her answer: The earth earth is bigger than the sun cause sun revolves only around the earth.

Sounds perfect!

[Dg8787]

Question on OKCupid:

Which is bigger, the earth or sun.

Her answer: The earth earth is bigger than the sun cause sun revolves only around the earth.

Sounds perfect!I don't think that's a measurement about intelligence sir. More about education. After all from where we stand or sit, the sun does look like it is smaller than earth and that the sun does move.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't think that's a measurement about intelligence sir. More about education. After all from where we stand or sit, the sun does look like it is smaller than earth and that the sun does move.I once worked with a guy from Florida, USA who would not accept that the sun is a star. No matter how much I tried to explain to him that it is just a relatively close star, he refused to believe it. He said it is the sun; it is not a star. So it's not just pinays.

[GoodEnough]

I once worked with a guy from Florida, USA who would not accept that the sun is a star. No matter how much I tried to explain to him that it is just a relatively close star, he refused to believe it. He said it is the sun; it is not a star. So it's not just pinays.Well, but he was from Florida after all.

[WestCoast1]

Well, but he was from Florida after all.'Nuff said. Get a rope.

[Wolvenvacht]

I don't think that's a measurement about intelligence sir. More about education. After all from where we stand or sit, the sun does look like it is smaller than earth and that the sun does move.Or perhaps the nefarious influence of the catholic church? After all it took them only until 1992 to recognize that Galilei wasn't wrong.

[Sammon]

Hitting girls on DIA mostly Manila because upcoming visit only a week. May squeeze couple of nights in AC.

Started with around 80 girls interested in staying with me. I put some on the second preferred list because they had kid or kids.

Surprising how girls with kids are more eager than without. I guess they need money without being a prostitute.

On the main list there were about 30 fairly good looking in pics. Some are stunners. Started skyping and some look different and dropped them. Some dropped out themselves when they found out it is sex only.

Right now I have 8 on the first list who want to take off from work and stay with me. I told them not to take off work and told them let us see if we are compatible after one night. I am notorious for keeping the same girl 2-3 nights if we hit it off. Sex and companionship gets better. If the first list fails for whatever I still have 23 left on the second list. In that list one really pretty 26 year old but she has two kids. Do not feel like supporting her kids by way of shopping etc. There are some who have their kid in the province and working in Manila. For all I know these could be hitting LA cafe.

I do not like to meet them outside of my hotel. Downside is if they show up at my hotel need to do at least one courtesy fuck and give money. Previously I had only couple with smelly pussies but I had to do the deed anyway and send them home giving excuses. They were hoping to stay longer.

Will post a report hopefully with some pics.

[Dg8787]

A few days ago I flew out of Clark on Qatar Airlines on a 3 leg trip through Doha first. As I got to the checkin counter the computer system crashed. We waited 30 minutes for the computer to come back on but to no avail. There were 5 check in lines all manned (womanned) by Filipinas. There were at least one hundred or more passengers in line waiting to check in and about 75 minutes to flight time.

The check in girls sprung into action by handwriting the boarding passes and luggage tags. It wasn't as easy as just writing the passes and tags, each one had to use a crappy cell phone and call who knows where to get the reservation and ticket numbers for each passengers and check them in. My baggage tag was hand written with the 3 airports. I thought for sure it would get lost without the barcode (s).

The flight was full on an Airbus 330 and left on time. It didn't look like the check in staff had practice this emergency method before because they looked pretty frantic. My point is the Filipinas had some intelligence contrary to what has been posted here.

The passengers were approximately 97% Filipinos and 7 out of 10 were Filipinas. My guess they were OFWs headed to different Middle East countries for work, to feed their families. I don't think 9 out of 10 Filipinas would be fucking around like some posters have said. I should have done a survey!

I sat in coach about 1/3 of the way down. I have to say this was the BEST plane crowd I have ever been with whether full or not. Filipinos were well behaved, respectful, showered and pretty quiet. Getting on and off the plane was real orderly.

[FreebieFan]

A few days ago I flew out of Clark on Qatar Airlines on a 3 leg trip through Doha first. As I got to the checkin counter the computer system crashed. We waited 30 minutes for the computer to come back on but to no avail. There were 5 check in lines all manned (womanned) by Filipinas. There were at least one hundred or more passengers in line waiting to check in and about 75 minutes to flight time.

The check in girls sprung into action by handwriting the boarding passes and luggage tags. It wasn't as easy as just writing the passes and tags, each one had to use a crappy cell phone and call who knows where to get the reservation and ticket numbers for each passengers and check them in. My baggage tag was hand written with the 3 airports. I thought for sure it would get lost without the barcode (s).

The flight was full on an Airbus 330 and left on time. It didn't look like the check in staff had practice this emergency method before because they looked pretty frantic. My point is the Filipinas had some intelligence contrary to what has been posted here.

The passengers were approximately 97% Filipinos and 7 out of 10 were Filipinas. My guess they were OFWs headed to different Middle East countries for work, to feed their families. I don't think 9 out of 10 Filipinas would be fucking around like some posters have said. I should have done a survey!

I sat in coach about 1/3 of the way down. I have to say this was the BEST plane crowd I have ever been with whether full or not. Filipinos were well behaved, respectful, showered and pretty quiet. Getting on and off the plane was real orderly.Once was checked into a flight in Manila, got to waiting area then they decided to cancel the flight owing to a quite large typhoon. Went back next day (Cathay had advised by phone to start checking in 3 hours before the 7 am flight) and it was ALL MANUAL check in, made worse and slower as several of us had flight transfers. We departed about 2 hours late owing to the manual check in but the connecting New York flight was held for us and proper boarding passes and baggage tags were given to us there. Overall not too bad an experience except standing in line for 2 hours wasnt fun at 4 am, as each check in took 10 minutes.

Nice comments about how well behaved and compliant the Filipinas are on flights. Was recently on an Air China flight. Firstly I was using my phone on airplane mode and an attendant tells me to turn it off in a demanding way. I stated its on airplane mode. She told me that on air China no electronics may be on at any time. Thanks honey. Then, on a 5 hour flight, they announce " turbulence alerts " every 15 minutes. OF course we were turbulence free the whole flight, but its well known that Chinese love to wander around planes like cats so they do the turbulence thing to keep them seated. Fun!

[Member #4387]

I agree highly when it comes to phil passengers they behave very well. Not a problem. Though phil air could probably train their paxing staff a rule or two. Arrived Kalibo and boarded the Manila bound plane (A320). Me and my norwegian GF had economy extra ticket which is supposed to be the best seatings at the 2 front rows (a few more inches legspace that's all) on certain domestic flights. Seated in our 2 A and 2 B seats was a phil air captain and his wife. I showed him my boarding pass and told him in a polite manner I wanted those seats. He asked me to go sit in the back as he was the captain. The eco extra section was full but empty seats in the back. I am not easily angry but I must have bursted out something like "maybe you are used to treat your own kind this way but I know you are only paxing and don't pay shit or probably nothing for ir ticket as you are repositioning yourself. I have paid the highest fair on your shitty airline so I am going to sit here even if its on your lap". There was some kind of commotion and the captain was comming to move this fellow and his wife (the wife went into the back and the captain into the jumpseat in the cockpit). The cabincrew just stood there and did nothing. I guess they can not even touch a captain off duty no matter what due to misunderstood respect for ranks. Ye ye I know its the phils and everything and you just have to go with the flow but I am not accepting shitty behaviour no matter where in the world I am at. I want only what I bought and in this case it was those seats. Ofcourse I would not die from sitting in the back of the airplane but that's not the point.

[Slippery]

And people tell me I'm an a $$hole when I pay for something and get less in this country and then demand what I paid for. Then when you ask for your money back or an adjustment, they won't give you anything. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

[Simmer]

Why would you make a wise ass comment and you don't even who I am. WTF is your problem pal? I know you must be insecure and prolly alittle over weight Caucasian male huh??? Oh yea with receding hair line too that when going to get his shoes shined just takes their word for it? (GRIN)

PC out.

The hint was in the {grin}. It was intended as a joke, nothing personal.

[Mbsl65]

And people tell me I'm an a $$hole when I pay for something and get less in this country and then demand what I paid for. Then when you ask for your money back or an adjustment, they won't give you anything. There's more than one way to skin a cat.Try changing your plane ticket on Cebu Pacific air. They will keep 95% of your money as a spoilage fee. I never heard anything like that. Poor country really needs a consumer protection agency.

[Dg8787]

I ticketed a friend on CP from Tacloban to Cebu. I get an email that the plane is in for repairs and the flight is cancelled. I can have funds deposited into the CP travel fund. Instead of a submit button they list 3 different phone numbers to call!

[Member #4387]

I ticketed a friend on CP from Tacloban to Cebu. I get an email that the plane is in for repairs and the flight is cancelled. I can have funds deposited into the CP travel fund. Instead of a submit button they list 3 different phone numbers to call!On two occations i had to cancell my Cebu Pacific tickets. They were bought at the highest and most refundable fee just in case i had to cancell/rebook my flights. I might thought it would make refund/rebook easier. What a bummer i was wrong(i knew that but it could happen somewhat a surprise was handed out). Spending enough pussytime trying to get a refund I found out that the charges (unknown to mankind, as they love fancy words no one understands)were so high that only a few pesos would fall back into my pockets. And then you can say I was an idiot doing the same again (booking the most refundable/rebookable ticket) in which I did not even bother to try get the refund but only booked a new ticket (in this case I actually tried to get rebooked to another flight but with those long lines at the ticket office not a chance). Itis just as much hazzle go through this operations with Phil Air. I miss these asian carries beeing legacy or LCC can sprint up their websites. European carriers(LCC incl)have websites u can do all the operations/manage bookings atleast for the higher fare payers. And refund will get to u within a few days by just pressing the button u miss out. I guess these carriers simply just dont want it to be easy and expect people to give up(my theory).. Yes i know i am speaking about phils but these carriers actually try to operate and compete against more modern airlines. Phil Air also flying to LHR and CDG in europe at the moment and Cebu to Aussie and Dubai.

[Wicked Roger]

I ticketed a friend on CP from Tacloban to Cebu. I get an email that the plane is in for repairs and the flight is cancelled. I can have funds deposited into the CP travel fund. Instead of a submit button they list 3 different phone numbers to call!Has happened to me (and by his FR Skogis too). The travel fund is a pain as sometimes I forget it.

What annoys me is when I arrive on EK into T3 and turn my local number and see a message saying my onward connection has been cancelled and tomorrow is the next flight. Cebu Pac (and other budget airline I may add) will never help you with hotels. But that is the price for cheaper tickets.

Now EK on the other hand Skogis. I have had to cancel 2 tickets recently and the refunds have arrived less a $150 penalty (but I not care as my client picked that up).

What worries me (or could be good) is that you and are maybe on the same plane one day and no know it as I fly a lot and EK is my preferred carrier so I can consolidate miles and use them later.

[D Cups]

Ya, I've had problems with refunds from CP, too. Yet, they are still inexpensive tix. I like their direct flight from Cebu to AC. If others are aware of other low cost domestic providers, please sound off. Thanks.


Try changing your plane ticket on Cebu Pacific air. They will keep 95% of your money as a spoilage fee. I never heard anything like that. Poor country really needs a consumer protection agency..

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

A few days ago I did book a indirect flight from Bangkok to Cagayan de Oro. Arriving in Manila 4. 55 and leaving 6. 55 am from the same terminal (3). Because it was offered as one ticket I thought it would be okay. Check in for flight to CDO closes 45 minutes prior flying. So 1 hour 15 min for collecting my luggage and passport control.

Will it be OK or should I just get myself an extra ticket this week online (need prepaid 10 kilogram extra baggage anyway which is cheaper online than buying one hour before flying at the airport). If chances of one hour delay will be 5 % then I will get a ticket in manila once it happens. If people here say 50 % I will get an extra ticket leaving a few hours later.

Sincere greetings, Frits.

P.S remember air Asia and Vietnam airlines but with Cebu pacific I have been lucky so far.

[Bonker04]

Hello,

A few days ago I did book a indirect flight from Bangkok to Cagayan de Oro. Arriving in Manila 4. 55 and leaving 6. 55 am from the same terminal (3). Because it was offered as one ticket I thought it would be okay. Check in for flight to CDO closes 45 minutes prior flying. So 1 hour 15 min for collecting my luggage and passport control.

Will it be OK or should I just get myself an extra ticket this week online (need prepaid 10 kilogram extra baggage anyway which is cheaper online than buying one hour before flying at the airport). If chances of one hour delay will be 5 % then I will get a ticket in manila once it happens. If people here say 50 % I will get an extra ticket leaving a few hours later.

Sincere greetings, Frits.

P.S remember air Asia and Vietnam airlines but with Cebu pacific I have been lucky so far.There are a bunch of flights that leave to CDO up to 1420 so personally I would buy a ticket for the 0800 departure if its cheap enough in advance. If not then I would risk it. Although you haven't booked a direct flight as your onward flight is with CebPac you stand a chance of having it re-assigned on a space available basis if the delay was down to them. That happened to me a couple of times and once they re-assigned my flight, the second time I had to purchase another ticket. It really depends on the duty officer on the day. I generally buy a direct flight so any delay your covered, but often the cost of a direct flight is a lot more than buying the two separately.

[GoodEnough]

The airport is so totally inefficient and crowded that the likelihood of your missing the connection is strong. However, given that it's only got a single usable runway, delays are the norm and you might make it. One alternative, which always works well for me, is to check in on line and print your boarding pass yourself. That way, you avoid having to queue up for check in for the domestimat flight and increase your odds of making the flight on time.

GE.


Hello,

A few days ago I did book a indirect flight from Bangkok to Cagayan de Oro. Arriving in Manila 4. 55 and leaving 6. 55 am from the same terminal (3). Because it was offered as one ticket I thought it would be okay. Check in for flight to CDO closes 45 minutes prior flying. So 1 hour 15 min for collecting my luggage and passport control.

Will it be OK or should I just get myself an extra ticket this week online (need prepaid 10 kilogram extra baggage anyway which is cheaper online than buying one hour before flying at the airport). If chances of one hour delay will be 5 % then I will get a ticket in manila once it happens. If people here say 50 % I will get an extra ticket leaving a few hours later.

Sincere greetings, Frits.

P.S remember air Asia and Vietnam airlines but with Cebu pacific I have been lucky so far.

[Member #4387]

Has happened to me (and by his FR Skogis too). The travel fund is a pain as sometimes I forget it.

What annoys me is when I arrive on EK into T3 and turn my local number and see a message saying my onward connection has been cancelled and tomorrow is the next flight. Cebu Pac (and other budget airline I may add) will never help you with hotels. But that is the price for cheaper tickets.

Now EK on the other hand Skogis. I have had to cancel 2 tickets recently and the refunds have arrived less a $150 penalty (but I not care as my client picked that up).

What worries me (or could be good) is that you and are maybe on the same plane one day and no know it as I fly a lot and EK is my preferred carrier so I can consolidate miles and use them later.EK never any trouble. I sometimes as you fly discounted biz tickets and have the US150 penalty to change or cancell them. If I have the even fuller fare its no penalty whatsoever and EK, a couple of trips ago, even changed my initiary from beein a return ticket OSL. MNL into a multicity with legs from OSL to CGK (Jakarta, had to stop over there to do a bd girl) and from MNL to OSL, free of charges. It pays off to sometimes to have status and beeing regular customer (just like we see with girls sometimes when we make them visist us regulary, hehe). Would be fun if you could show me your arsenal (I am a Man you fan) of sextoys at seat 2 B sometimes, haha.

[Mua Tur]

I can remember last March I missed to catch the flight from Manila to Gunagzhou. Cathy Pacific did not asked any re-booking charge but made no show penalty. Some one told me generally Airlines in country of origin don't do re-booking charge.

[Wicked Roger]

Would be fun if you could show me your arsenal (I am a Man you fan) of sextoys at seat 2 B sometimes, haha.Well if I got out my arsenal of toys etc and EK business class that would be a good story but I somehow think the crew would ask us to put them away. Some may ask to use (the bakla crew also). Same for the bondage stuff. (insert smiley here).

Also 2 old men showing of vibes, anal plugs, bondage gear etc would not be good for our reputation as many would think we like to use on each other LOL.

Next time on EK I will ask if there is a kinky Norwegian in 2 B or anywhere in business class. As for me I am the model of professionalism and boredom on the plane, unless she is super cute and I will try and get her number of course LOL.

We should however check the arsenal some time preferably with a few cute there to make sure they all work LOL.

P.S. I pay $150 cancellation and only $25-50 penalty for change (sometimes. As you say it helps to be a regular).

[Mbsl65]

Ya, I've had problems with refunds from CP, too. Yet, they are still inexpensive tix. I like their direct flight from Cebu to AC. If others are aware of other low cost domestic providers, please sound off. Thanks.

.I flew with AirAsia Kuala Lumpur. Cebu direct flight Aug, 15th. I changed my ticket from 18th since I got bored in Kuala Lumpur. Air Asia charged me $35 re ticketing fee and it was more than fair to me. However CP and PhilAir are ridiculous. So, I decided to fly with Air Asia from now on if they fly the route I am flying. BTW, their seats are much better than Cebu Pacific. Cebu Pacific reminds me old US Army Cattle Trucks.

[FritsVanegter]

There are a bunch of flights that leave to CDO up to 1420 so personally I would buy a ticket for the 0800 departure if its cheap enough in advance. If not then I would risk it. Although you haven't booked a direct flight as your onward flight is with CebPac you stand a chance of having it re-assigned on a space available basis if the delay was down to them. That happened to me a couple of times and once they re-assigned my flight, the second time I had to purchase another ticket. It really depends on the duty officer on the day. I generally buy a direct flight so any delay your covered, but often the cost of a direct flight is a lot more than buying the two separately.Hello,

I already did get the ticket a few days ago. It consist of two flights but it is considered as one booking number. Of course the second plane will have people who only did pay for that part of the trip. Both flights have a different number so I am sure if the first plane will be late. The second plane will not wait for passengers arriving from BKK.

I did ask the hotel in CDO as well let us see what they suggest.

To save time I could print the boarding pass in BKK with the help of Majestic suites hotel.

Sincere greetings and thanks a lot so far.

Really curious what CDO has to offer,

Frits

[George03]

I am making my third trip to Phil in a few weeks to spend a week in Manila. Not enough time to sort through all the FC, DIA, etc. I just posted an ad on craigslist with no photos of me and receiving many replies with pics, viber etc. I think I may need to move there!

[George03]

The first time on FC and other cupid sites, I would get chat requests every 5 seconds. The last two times with a subscription, chat doesn't seem to work at all. I get lot's of interest, emails, etc. I am wondering if there is a setting not working, I think I checked pop up settings.

[BikeRider]

The first time on FC and other cupid sites, I would get chat requests every 5 seconds. The last two times with a subscription, chat doesn't seem to work at all. I get lot's of interest, emails, etc. I am wondering if there is a setting not working, I think I checked pop up settings.I actually joined FC yesterday myself. Like shooting fish in a barrel comes to mind.

How does the system work for the girls though? Are they allowed to reply to messages? What sort of limits do they have as a non-paying member?

[Simmer]

The first time on FC and other cupid sites, I would get chat requests every 5 seconds. The last two times with a subscription, chat doesn't seem to work at all. I get lot's of interest, emails, etc. I am wondering if there is a setting not working, I think I checked pop up settings.Not saying this is the case with FC / Cupid but there was some news story a year or two ago about dating sites having fake accounts set up to robo-message you automatically, in order to make it look like there were more people interested in you than really were, to reel you in.

[George03]

Not saying this is the case with FC / Cupid but there was some news story a year or two ago about dating sites having fake accounts set up to robo-message you automatically, in order to make it look like there were more people interested in you than really were, to reel you in.I am sure there are many fake accounts. , but unusual not to get to get any chat requests. Even the very few times I initiate a request, I am not getting responses. Still receiving lot's of email. I think there is a pop up setting or something that I am missing. I had luck fishing in a couple of countries with cupid, after the local chat would move to YM, Skype, etc. To weed out the scammers.

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

I know on Filipino kisses there are some accounts made by girls who will lure you into a paid webcam show. Yes you can report them and this person will be blocked but they will connect to you using their other account (s). There is someone who even send you photos of one of her friend who likes to join her in a webcam show.

Of course we become member to look for search with non professional girls. So we are sometimes a bit dishonest too. LOL.

Greetings,

Frits

[Hutsori]

How does the system work for the girls though? Are they allowed to reply to messages? What sort of limits do they have as a non-paying member?Same as a non-paying bloke. She can send a message and all the but the first few characters are hidden.

[Hutsori]

The first time on FC and other cupid sites, I would get chat requests every 5 seconds. The last two times with a subscription, chat doesn't seem to work at all. I get lot's of interest, emails, etc. I am wondering if there is a setting not working, I think I checked pop up settings.Sounds like you did restrict pop ups unless your paid subscription lapsed unbeknownst to you.

[BikeRider]

Same as a non-paying bloke. She can send a message and all the but the first few characters are hidden.

Actually answered the question on their help system

Is PinaLove.com free?
It is free to send messages and free to receive and open messages. Free members have to wait between sending messages but are able to read all messages they receive and there are no limits on sending interest to members or comments.

It makes sense now...why you don't get replies for some time etc.

[George03]

Sounds like you did restrict pop ups unless your paid subscription lapsed unbeknownst to you.No subscription relapse, I just signed up. Without a subscription, I wouldn't be able to see email that is sent.

[Hutsori]

No subscription relapse, I just signed up. Without a subscription, I wouldn't be able to see email that is sent.Technically you are able to see a received email but not read it as a non fee-paying member. Disable the pop up blocker or try using a different browser. If that doesn't sort it then best you contact FC's help desk; I've found they're responsive.

[George03]

Technically you are able to see a received email but not read it as a non fee-paying member. Disable the pop up blocker or try using a different browser. If that doesn't sort it then best you contact FC's help desk; I've found they're responsive.Thanks, I am going to try another browser. Just to clarify, I just opened a paid account.

[PirateMorgan]

My chat does not seem to work with Chrome. But seems to work with Explorer. Also, and I not sure about this, nowadays the girls are using cell phones and that may restrict their ability to communicate and e-mail. Just a guess. Phones are just not as good as a computer any of this.

[Hutsori]

Yesterday I found I was unable to logon to OKC. I went through the forgotten-password process and the promised email didn't arrive, so I repeated it a few more times and still nothing. I sent an email to technical support describing the problem and received a reply about a half-day later: "We had some technical difficulties with your account recently that may have prevented you from signing in. Sorry! Things should be patched up now, so give it another go!" Success. If you experience the same just shoot them an email and they'll sort it.

[X Man]

"seeking a fat man (snip) accept m who I am (snip) age dosnt matter (snip) good manner, I don't like a man who seeking only a fun, ill bred".

Oh, honey, I'm only a little bit fat and little bit ill bred and only a little bit old. And I'm not seeking only "fun". I'll take you to a beach if you supply the fun.

[Ms Account]

I have never encountered in the Philippines any threats from Filipino men (on the street or acquaintances) apart from one incident last year that recently re-surfaced.

As I described in a previous post, I had been specifically looking for a sponsor type arrangement.

I met a girl in June 2014 in Cebu (as a referral from a chatmate). Very slim, cute 18 yo supposedly a virgin (but in hindsight probably too short). But at the time I was keen. In subsequent internet discussions after I left we agreed to sponsorship on my expectation on a planned Sept trip we would start in earnest. I did send her some money before I arrived so she would have known my real name. September comes around and just before I meet her, I get this abusive threatening message on my real face book profile (not my fake profile) from a guy whose photos and facebook posts showed a tattooed punk. She at the time claimed it was a possessive neighbour wanting to be her BF. All way too complicated for me so I pulled the pin. I did chat with her just recently and she admitted he was her BF but they had split. We agreed to meet on my next trip (which was just recently in August) on a pay per meet basis which suited me just fine. Well just before I was to meet her I get an contact invite request from the guy (using his real name) on YM (although I didn't accept it and he didn't send me any messages). So I didn't go ahead and meet her. It was not worth the risk.

What upset me about this incident was getting the message on my real facebook profile. Although the public can't see my friends, the security around facebook is so stuffed up that upon further investigations I realised the public could see who was following you (I have also turned this off now). Likewise on linked in, the public can't see my connections but it has the section next that shows "people also viewed" so it would not be difficult to link into your network.

You hear a lot about cyber scams. But not so much about cyber blackmail based upon someone threatening to expose you. If I was some punk (and I hope there is none reading this to give them ideas) it would be a lucrative income.

Maybe it further justifies never sending money which forces you to reveal your real name.

[Red Kilt]

<SNIP>

You hear a lot about cyber scams. But not so much about cyber blackmail based upon someone threatening to expose you. If I was some punk (and I hope there is none reading this to give them ideas) it would be a lucrative income.

Maybe it further justifies never sending money which forces you to reveal your real name.You make several good points Ms A.

Another aspect worth reminding guys about is NOT giving out too much about yourself in an SMS or text message, as you have no idea who is reading it at the other end. Women are often not too worried about leaving phones lying around in their homes and anyone can pick them up.

A year or so ago I posted here about an incident that occurred in Cebu. In the taxi after arrival at the airport I sent off a message to a previous long-standing friend saying I hoped to see her that night.

Minutes later I received a most abusive text message from someone who claimed to be her husband and who suggested (amongst other things) that he would kill me if I met her.

I was so pleased that I had not given any details like my hotel name etc in my text to her. I never responded to his text and deleted her number immediately.

Of course, later that day I got texts from her telling me he was not her husband; he was harmless; it was all a misunderstanding; please stay as my friend etc etc. It was a salutary lesson for me.

Be careful guys, and keep your wits about you. You only need one crazy incident to occur to destroy your livelihood and possibly your life.

[Asian Lover Oz]

real face book profile (not my fake profile) Before my recent trip I setup a fake facebook profile (using my junk email account which is not linked to anything). The facebook account had no pics, but I just started randomly adding PI girls on there and most were accepting without issue.

I tried messaging a few at random to see if they would meet without any success.

Then BANG, after about a week of using the account - "People you may know " - holy shit all my work colleagues turned up on there even though I had all the security set to high etc.

Account was deleted immediately. So freaking scary.

Be interested to see how you remained totally safe with your fake account.

How do you seem real to other people without having multiple pics of you etc. ?

[Member #4387]

Then BANG, after about a week of using the account - "People you may know " - holy shit all my work colleagues turned up on there even though I had all the security set to high etc.

Account was deleted immediately. So freaking scary.

Be interested to see how you remained totally safe with your fake account.

How do you seem real to other people without having multiple pics of you etc. ?Well I have ran a fake fb quite some time now and like you it is not connected to anything known to my regular life back home. Never had any issues like you and even if I get loads of friends recommendations I have never, ex 1 time, had anyone from my real life beeing recommended. But that one time, out of the blue, one friend from my real life and my normal fb popped up.

I just blocked him off from my fake fb, just in case. After this no trouble.

What could have happened? HM I guess 2 reasons, and feel free to enlighten me (and OP) if you have readible knowledge to how FB works.

Reason 1: I can by mistake (probably drunk or sth) have searched my normal friends facebook from my fake one. Then I guess fb remembers that.

Reason 2: my friend could without my knowledge be friends with one or several girls I have befriended (I hardly think so but I guess stranger things could have happened). But he is very far from mongering candidate and hardly ever heard about phils, hehe.

I have no better reasons for this to happen since it almost never happened to me.

And having nothing connected to your real world is what I do which works out just fine ex the one excample explained here. A total strange account name, no known phone, no known e-mail, positionings off etc etc. The pics of me I send on the girls request later in our chats. To begin with I have only nonsense pics but I guess pinays are not very critical in who they befriend. Infact it seems like the ultimate competition out there "who have most friends in facebook".

[Nolz7]

Well I have ran a fake fb quite some time now and like you it is not connected to anything known to my regular life back home. Never had any issues like you and even if I get loads of friends recommendations I have never, ex 1 time, had anyone from my real life beeing recommended. But that one time, out of the blue, one friend from my real life and my normal fb popped up.

I just blocked him off from my fake fb, just in case. After this no trouble.

What could have happened?3. Maybe Facebook is reading the IP address and the two accounts using the same IP.

[Mbsl65]

Well I have ran a fake fb quite some time now and like you it is not connected to anything known to my regular life back home. Never had any issues like you and even if I get loads of friends recommendations I have never, ex 1 time, had anyone from my real life beeing recommended. But that one time, out of the blue, one friend from my real life and my normal fb popped up.

And having nothing connected to your real world is what I do which works out just fine ex the one excample explained here. A total strange account name, no known phone, no known e-mail, positionings off etc etc. The pics of me I send on the girls request later in our chats. To begin with I have only nonsense pics but I guess pinays are not very critical in who they befriend. Infact it seems like the ultimate competition out there "who have most friends in facebook".I do Beta Test Facebook / Messenger. I do have two different accounts also. You need to be sure that don't post same pictures on both accounts since FB now uses technology to compare pictures.

[Hutsori]

3. Maybe Facebook is reading the IP address and the two accounts using the same IP.Unlikely. Often several people use the same computer in a family residence and in a Internet cafe it'll be dozens if not hundreds.

[Mogwai]

Unlikely. Often several people use the same computer in a family residence and in a Internet cafe it'll be dozens if not hundreds.I'm not a computer expert but even if a computer is used by several people the IP address is still the same. It's linked to the computer, not to the people. Isn't it?

[Kar2692]

If you have been trying to use your fake ID with the same phone and have messenger on it, or you have sync contacts turned on it will pick up the contacts you have in your phone even in your Email ID, basically Its quite possible if you are using the same Smart phone to log in to 2 different FB accounts. I have a fake FB account as welll I can't delete it even bec. I forgot the password and its not linked to any of my email ids, the secret question also I forgot, but there were people from my original ID poping in, One friend even added me: S.


I'm not a computer expert but even if a computer is used by several people the IP address is still the same. It's linked to the computer, not to the people. Isn't it?

[Hutsori]

I'm not a computer expert but even if a computer is used by several people the IP address is still the same. It's linked to the computer, not to the people. Isn't it?TL;DR version: Correct. An IP address is assigned to a device and not a person, ergo multiple people with their own unique wastebook logon credentials (username and password) may use the same computer having the same one IP address and there will be no user profile confusion, overlap, etc. Users need to logon and log off wastebook and not cache their credentials.

IP addresses may be assigned either statically or dynamically using DHCP. Almost all home users use a dynamically assigned address, one that is leased by the ISP's DHCP server to the customer's computer. This is done in the background by the computer and the DHCP server so it's invisible to the user unless he opens a terminal window and types a command to release or renew the lease. Invisible to the user the lease is automatically renewed whilst the computer is online. Turn off the computer, the IP renewal request will cease, and the DHCP server will assign the IP to another computer when needed. Move the computer to a different location that uses different block of IPs and the computer will be assigned a new IP.

[X Man]

SNIP Why is it that he can do that despite of all I did. I gave everything yes I also made a mistake asking money all time but I can't blame myself SNIP.

[FreebieFan]

We all have many chit chats with the ladies, and some of them go smoothly. Some of them are just bizarre.

Cute young lady, "treshtorres" lives in Cebu. Profile says " she wants to meet a foreigner in Cebu.

Tresh. " Hi ".

FF. "Should be easy for you to find a foreigner in Cebu, theres many there.

Tresh " why you say that ".

FF. " Well there are many foreigners living in Cebu and you are looking to find one so it shouldn't be too difficult to achieve your aims.

Tresh. " No, I said I want to find a foreigner here in Cebu".

If girls had looks as well as brains we would be in trouble. !

[Member #4387]

I get quite many msg regarding how its so easy to hook up with them girls in general and more spesificaly questions surrounds my use of my fake FB. Remember guys that loads of girls carry atleast 2/3 FB's so me having one monger FB is nothing special. Girls are open about it though but never do add your fake FB into theirs FB of origin:

Me: how are you sweetie.

Her: I am fine and by the way I am the mother of Cindirella, I am pregnant now.

Me: Huh?

Her: "she send pic of herself and the daughter (its the daughter I wanted)".

Me: Huh, wtf??

Her: My daughter come see you in hotel but no sex ok?

Me: Ofcourse not.

Her: good I trust you.

Cindirella arrives we fuck like rabbits, have a drink and fuck again. I did ask her about the mother at play here and she told me mother wanted her to meet foreign guy, exact words: "rich foreign guy" I asked her more (for fun) and she told me that her mother did not like Cindirellas BF (pinoy). Happens only in the phils.

[Toronto]

I get quite many msg regarding how its so easy to hook up with them girls in general and more spesificaly questions surrounds my use of my fake FB. Remember guys that loads of girls carry atleast 2/3 FB's so me having one monger FB is nothing special. Hi Skogis, quick question regarding fb. The time between trips is much longer for me compared to you and as the number of my "friends" grow I'm bombarded with messages. How do you deal with this? Just deactivate your account and get back on just before your trip or just simply ignore them? I have been trying to "keep in touch" by sending short messages or some smiley type sticker but it's getting to be too much. Always appreciate and enjoy your posts.

[Member #4387]

Hi Skogis, quick question regarding fb. The time between trips is much longer for me compared to you and as the number of my "friends" grow I'm bombarded with messages. How do you deal with this? Just deactivate your account and get back on just before your trip or just simply ignore them? I have been trying to "keep in touch" by sending short messages or some smiley type sticker but it's getting to be too much. Always appreciate and enjoy your posts.My dear friend its all evidence you simply start to early. My MO is if I see a hot girl, like realy hot, I sit and wait (doing nothing). I take a note from her and when I am 3/4 days away I hit her. Never so far failed bcs of, no pun intented, they seem ro like me. These girls have not much patience. I know many people feel they are beeing ignored, the reason is they start contact girls to early (many months, weeks from arrival date).

[Toronto]

My dear friend its all evidence you simply start to early. My MO is if I see a hot girl, like realy hot, I sit and wait (doing nothing). I take a note from her and when I am 3/4 days away I hit her. Never so far failed bcs of, no pun intented, they seem ro like me. These girls have not much patience. I know many people feel they are beeing ignored, the reason is they start contact girls to early (many months, weeks from arrival date).Excellent point. I did exactly that when I used to use dating sites but once I switched to fb I guess I kind of forgot. Will fix it starting with trip next week.

[Member #4387]

Excellent point. I did exactly that when I used to use dating sites but once I switched to fb I guess I kind of forgot. Will fix it starting with trip next week.If you have looked into girls accounts (FB, pinalove, DIA, FC etc) you would soon to realise you need to stand out from the rest of the male crowd. Stunners get tons of msgs and the competition is low (I've read some of the msg guys send and the "want to meet you and fuck you" msg is pretty common but not an great idea for bedding a seemingly normal bird). I am not saying my MO is perfect but await them until I almost hit town is just one of my tactics. I also never beeing rude and I never (atleast not to often) even hint about sex. I stopped this as when a girl wants to meet me, beeing pinay and all, it never failes. If she meets me my hotel I know I can fuck her. She is only beeing invited for drinks. It all starts with a kiss.

[Toronto]

If you have looked into girls accounts (FB, pinalove, DIA, FC etc) you would soon to realise you need to stand out from the rest of the male crowd. Stunners get tons of msgs and the competition is low (I've read some of the msg guys send and the "want to meet you and fuck you" msg is pretty common but not an great idea for bedding a seemingly normal bird). I am not saying my MO is perfect but await them until I almost hit town is just one of my tactics. I also never beeing rude and I never (atleast not to often) even hint about sex. I stopped this as when a girl wants to meet me, beeing pinay and all, it never failes. If she meets me my hotel I know I can fuck her. She is only beeing invited for drinks. It all starts with a kiss.Thanks again for the advice. I don't have a problem with girls agreeing to meet me, my problem is that I start too early as you pointed out and they keep sending me messages and I don't want to waste my time replying them. So as you advised, I will not message anyone again after my next trip until it is about one or two weeks before I am there. Enjoy the rest of your trip 😀.

[Mr Enternational]

If you have looked into girls accounts (FB, pinalove, DIA, FC etc) you would soon to realise you need to stand out from the rest of the male crowd.The ultimate way of standing out is to have Manila as the city you are in on your profile. Doing this is especially why you would not want to start too early. A girl will think you are already in town and a guy in town beats one on the other side of the world. You can put her off a week or two by playing the busy or visiting another city right now role until you really arrive.

The other day in Pattaya I was on a site and a girl I was talking to was so anxious to meet me. Well I am injured and my girlfriend has been staying with me and taking care of me. I had to put the girl off the first day. The second night when my girlfriend went to work I was able to sneak off to meet the girl. While with her, she volunteered that she was pressuring me to meet because she didn't think I was really in town. I laughed and asked her why would I lie about that. Since then she has messaged me a couple of times asking when we could see each other again but I have been too busy to answer. She finally said sorry if I am disturbing you. I will not message you again. Patience grasshopper.

[Member #4387]

The ultimate way of standing out is to have Manila as the city you are in on your profile. Doing this is especially why you would not want to start too early. A girl will think you are already in town and a guy in town beats one on the other side of the world. You can put her off a week or two by playing the busy or visiting another city right now role until you really arrive.This is also solid advice for nubes wanting to increase success Mr Entl. When I used datingsites actively haven't done it so much myself since I felt I was doing quite ok with my profile "as is". What I did though was to throw in some pics where girls could obviously see I was or atleast did have been to phils as in a selfie at Glorietta, Naia etc. Girls easily gets tired nursing guys with endless msgs when most of the guys they talk to never will ever set foot into phils. Patience are not these girls strong side and its understandable when the stunners get as many msgs as they do.

Other well meant advice would be to sign up for a premium membership where that is possible as most likely your msg will be put on top of her inbox and stay there. Regulared member guys msgs will fall in behind the premium members one. Girls with 100+ msgs most likely never bother to browse through more than the first 10 or 20 msg or so (atleast what I have been told).

I have "secretly" followed a couple of datingsites though I did not actively used them. Pinalove has a great feature where you can actually be online but your profile to others looks like you are offline. They will not even see you look their profiles. This feature is only for premium member. I think I can say that the girl crowd changes every three week or so (with a few longtimers beeing signed up for years). This gives me an idea of what timewindow one has to work under. And if you start to early communicating the girls will in most cases be long gone (taken or just plain tired) by the time you arrive. You have ofcourse some of the same girls change profiles and reenter with a new ones every now and then (this is also longtimers in most cases and girls I usualy avoided). Probably meets some mongers, signs off, when the guy leaves signs on again. Just try for urself to passively monitor FC and Pinalove for a while. You will see quite some rotation of the girls. Just a heads up. Its pretty much the same happening using FB but atleast I think girls can not change name on their accounts more than every 60 days or so. On the other many delete profiles and create new fake accounts like I change boxers (also girls I avoid).

[X Man]

I recommend you pick up a bottle of Red Horse and take a picture next to the Jollibee Bee. In your profile say that you are "simple".


This is also solid advice for nubes wanting to increase success Mr Entl. When I used datingsites actively haven't done it so much myself since I felt I was doing quite ok with my profile "as is". What I did though was to throw in some pics where girls could obviously see I was or atleast did have been to phils as in a selfie at Glorietta, Naia etc. Girls easily gets tired nursing guys with endless msgs when most of the guys they talk to never will ever set foot into phils. Patience are not these girls strong side and its understandable when the stunners get as many msgs as they do.
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[D Cups]

Good one! And add karaoke if you are so inclined.


I recommend you pick up a bottle of Red Horse and take a picture next to the Jollibee Bee. In your profile say that you are "simple"..

[Worf1972]

Good one! And add karaoke if you are so inclined.Joking, but the more I think, it may be a great idea!
I recommend you pick up a bottle of Red Horse and take a picture next to the Jollibee Bee. In your profile say that you are "simple".
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That's funny but I don't think that would work either. In Queens New York in little Manila, there's a Jollibee bee and across the street is a liquor store. LOL.

[Simmer]

That's funny but I don't think that would work either. In Queens New York in little Manila, there's a Jollibee bee and across the street is a liquor store. LOL.Or go to the nearest branch of Seafood City (complete with Jollibee inside) and buy a bottle of RH there. Two locations like that in the greater LOS Angeles area that I can think of, and I'm sure there are numerous more. But of course, the Filipina who has never been abroad probably wouldn't know that.

[Hutsori]

Girls with 100+ msgs most likely never bother to browse through more than the first 10 or 20 msg or so (atleast what I have been told).
Hahaha. I've seen girls open their FC and DIA, find they have 70+ messages, and delete them all. Unread.

[UglyOne]

An embarrassing newbie question, but will ask. I have fake FB account for use in another country. I don't know how to properly search for girls on FB! I enter keywords in the Search box and then click on the People tab, but only get a dozen or so hits. Must be doing it wrong. Can someone point me to a guide for searching on FB the general case of finding girls in a city, not searching for a specific person? I would like to search FB for PH girls in HK. Maybe once I find a few girls I can use their Connections to find other girls, but how to best get started? I know this is not a FB forum, but a point in a direction would help. If it is a RTFF that is okay, I tried so maybe point me to a specific report? With some help maybe I can become one of those ignored 70+ messages.

[Hutsori]

I don't know how to properly search for girls on FB! I enter keywords in the Search box and then click on the People tab, but only get a dozen or so hits. Must be doing it wrong. C'mon, m8. If ISIS / ISIL can find and lure girls to war-torn Syria you shouldn't be having so many problems.

If you have some uni names of you can search for the school's wastebook page(s) and then check out all the friends, likes, and comments. You can also use google, for example this search "female manila FEU site:facebook.com" provided a lot of results such as the "FEU Pretty Girls" group, https://www.facebook.com/FEU-Pretty-Girls-288683151147002/timeline/. Open that you'll find a lot of members who you can send a friend request to.

You can also friend Filipino celebs and singers and then should be able to see all the followers. Can do the same with modeling agencies, https://www.facebook.com/TalentsManilaModels and photographers.

https://www.facebook.com/help/460711197281324/

[Strickjb]

Had an interesting exchange on Badoo today.

Her: Hi.

Me: Hi there! And good morning! How's it going? How's the weekend?

Her: At home.

Me: No plan?

Her: Like what??

Me: Not going out or anything?

Her: Anything like what? Tell me.

Me: like going out to the bar. Or movies. Hanging out with friends? Haha.

Her: Hmmm nope. If you like we meet give me budget 2 k. Then we make love.

Needless to say, she's been added to my call list when I get there. Won't be number one but a good backup. Is it any wonder we love this place?

JB.

[Member #4387]

Had an interesting exchange on Badoo today.

If you like we meet give me budget 2 k. Then we make love.

Needless to say, she's been added to my call list when I get there. Won't be number one but a good backup. Is it any wonder we love this place?

JB.Nice convo but, and not to throw ice down your neck and I realy do hope you suceed, but in my book, Badoo and other simular apps, works best for ad hoc pick ups (pick ups / meet within the hour). Many girls here work out from a here and then perspective and fuck / meet guys closest to them (not all but many).

So again if you are more than two weeks out from you get feet on phil soil then just chill bcs you will most likely not be able to keep her interested (this is tested through many years and to all online activity dealing with girls). Just my two cents.

[KongKing]

I note that Dateinasia now accepts more than one photo. Photos are automatically cropped to head and shoulders. You won't see a waist, butt or legs.

[X Man]

Thanks for the tip. Hopefully they won't set up all kinds of barriers to the "free" content. Tagged has really complicated their website.


I note that Dateinasia now accepts more than one photo. Photos are automatically cropped to head and shoulders. You won't see a waist, butt or legs.

[Mbsl65]

Apparently a lady claiming to be from Cebu and visiting her aunt in Sydney, AU has been communicating with me via Viber. She was planning to meet me in Cebu and have good time together. Blah blah. This morning I got a message from her OZ husband who sent me their picture along with their baby. He told me that they have been married for 4 years and she has been f*ing around since she moved there. Off course I felt bad and wish him and her the best of the luck to work on their relationship. He was very thankful for my positive approach.

[Mr Enternational]

Apparently a lady claiming to be from Cebu and visiting her aunt in Sydney, AU has been communicating with me via Viber. She was planning to meet me in Cebu and have good time together. Blah blah. This morning I got a message from her OZ husband who sent me their picture along with their baby. He told me that they have been married for 4 years and she has been f*ing around since she moved there. Off course I felt bad and wish him and her the best of the luck to work on their relationship. He was very thankful for my positive approach.Once again the old adage holds true. I don't know why some guys think theirs will be different. The day that I have to apologize to some random internet guy for my wife's hoeish ways is the day that trick would be out of my house. So easy to tell who is not used to having pussy when they let it run all over them.

[Member #4387]

Apparently a lady claiming to be from Cebu and visiting her aunt in Sydney, AU has been communicating with me via Viber. She was planning to meet me in Cebu and have good time together. Blah blah. This morning I got a message from her OZ husband who sent me their picture along with their baby. He told me that they have been married for 4 years and she has been f*ing around since she moved there. Off course I felt bad and wish him and her the best of the luck to work on their relationship. He was very thankful for my positive approach.One I know from a distance in Norway is also married to a pinay and they live in Norway. This guy belong to some other friends of mine as they are close but when we are out zipping a few he tend to show up. I tell him that it is not a good sign his wife is seeing other younger pinays and hang out in our cities worst asian hangout spot (where young norwegian guys feast). He is very gullible and believes his wife isn't doing anything wrong. Last weekend when me and the guys were in Dubai I got to talk to one of his best friends and he knew this girl was fucking around big time. He told me he actually fucked her himself but then I reacted and told him he should not fuck close friends wifes / gfs (I believe him though as he is quite a hunter). I have to start watch out for my GF as well I believe.

I believe if there is a great age gap it is more likely that the misses will find herself some younger flesh at one time. I think most here must admit that a young beauty does not fall for any guy triple her age and older her parents. There are safety issues for the girl and an economic insentive playing big time here.

I am 43 now and my GF is 30 (half / half and borned and raised in my country). I fuck her well while I am at home though and I cheat so much on her so if I catch her cheating me I will act I am angry but then I would be a hypocrate.

[Mogwai]

I fuck her well while I am at home...But you're not at home most of the time.....

[Member #4387]

But you're not at home most of the time.....Thats true but I would know as there are many eyes working to my favour. Not a single sign so far I know. But as I earlier stated; who am I to blame her if she fucks a bit aorund? But actually my GF (beeing just semi asian in looks and has no culture from phils whatsoever, yes I know adultery happens in our western worlds as well, hehe) is the most caring and homely girl I've ever known. My house is surrounded by surviliance cams 24/7 and direct to a security company. They tell me (I've never bother to watch them tapes) she is never leaving our home (big walls surrounding my mantion).

[Mbsl65]

One I know from a distance in Norway is also married to a pinay and they live in Norway. This guy belong to some other friends of mine as they are close but when we are out zipping a few he tend to show up. I tell him that it is not a good sign his wife is seeing other younger pinays and hang out in our cities worst asian hangout spot (where young norwegian guys feast). He is very gullible and believes his wife isn't doing anything wrong. Last weekend when me and the guys were in Dubai I got to talk to one of his best friends and he knew this girl was fucking around big time. He told me he actually fucked her himself but then I reacted and told him he should not fuck close friends wifes / gfs (I believe him though as he is quite a hunter). I have to start watch out for my GF as well I believe.

I believe if there is a great age gap it is more likely that the misses will find herself some younger flesh at one time. I think most here must admit that a young beauty does not fall for any guy triple her age and older her parents. There are safety issues for the girl and an economic insentive playing big time here.

I am 43 now and my GF is 30 (half / half and borned and raised in my country). I fuck her well while I am at home though and I cheat so much on her so if I catch her cheating me I will act I am angry but then I would be a hypocrate.One of my Cebu special friends moved to Norway to get married with her long time BF. I saw her pictures with other Pinays in Norway and I was wondering how quick she found the flock. Now you made a perfect sense by telling Pinay community there. Apparently, they still do what they do in Philippines regardless of the location. She is returning to Cebu on Nov. 4th and I will be there after a week. Let see if any Norwegian stretched her tight p.

[Member #4387]

One of my Cebu special friends moved to Norway to get married with her long time BF. I saw her pictures with other Pinays in Norway and I was wondering how quick she found the flock. Now you made a perfect sense by telling Pinay community there. Apparently, they still do what they do in Philippines regardless of the location. She is returning to Cebu on Nov. 4th and I will be there after a week. Let see if any Norwegian stretched her tight p*why.The favorite quoting in phils are, regardless how dysfunctional this country is, "god bless" and fuck her well.

[Wicked Roger]

One of my Cebu special friends moved to Norway to get married with her long time BF. I saw her pictures with other Pinays in Norway and I was wondering how quick she found the flock. Now you made a perfect sense by telling Pinay community there. Apparently, they still do what they do in Philippines regardless of the location. She is returning to Cebu on Nov. 4th and I will be there after a week. Let see if any Norwegian stretched her tight p*why.Same anywhere in the world Mb. In Aussie for example there are 7 Filipino communities in the city and suburbs where I sometimes go. Loads of them all eating pinoy food etc.

Some of the pinays start cute later they get chubby and some are still looking regardless where they are and who they are with LOL.

[Member #4387]

This trip I've done almost next to none prep work. It is not needed when the fake FB is blooming and multiple itself with ladies want to be my "friend". X man was having a good point when he tried analyze my postings by saying I also experience latecommers; and yes I do but very rare. I will take you guys through how the world can evolve through your own momentum without you even have the clue.

This fine afternoon / eve I was beeing hammered after starting drinking at 10 am. Had dates come and go but when we got to the 3 pm date I collapsed in bed and woke up 5:15 pm. That was 15 min to late for my 5 pm date upon which she noticed and was so kind to send me like 35 msg / calls as she arrived early. The 3 pm girl send me msg like 4 pm she started travelling (X man, she was obviously late). I delt with 3 pm girl first telling her she could just return home or whatever as I hate latecommers "bye". She got angry as she by then I woke stood outside with my 5 pm girl (without knowing eachother ofcourse). Ditching was needed and lesson learned and I saved out a funny / scary situation. In case the 3 pm girl still was around I got 5 pm girl to go up into the lobby so I could fetch her there and not outside in public.

I put in some space in my scheduel this fine eve and after 5 pm girl left the 7 pm girl and me thought we had quite some time to fool around. Then 10 pm girl states, X man, she calculated wrongly her travellingtime (this was a girl from Quezon so not all girls I meet are from Makati (roughly 95% of them are from Makati I would believe but beauty counts so I never stand down a spinner if she's from elsewhere)).

10 pm girl text me 8:47 pm she is outside hotel and then me and 7 pm girl is still sipping some wino after one round of playtime. Since Quezongirl is a spinner I invent some coverstory and 7 pm girl leaves and I fetch 10 pm girl around 9:15 pm in the lobby in case 7 pm girl still outside entrance (5 min after she left).

I've never tried to put myself forward as superman or whatever. But I must say when things works out even if I am collapesed then I feel pretty lucky in mongering terms. I find it easy, girls are mostly on time and lately I have more trouble with earlycommers than latecommers (both of them categories are irritating). All in all a good day.

I add the raw material scheduelwice. This is not definite but a guidance to how my life will be the next few days.

[Amadeuss]

This trip I've done almost next to none prep work. It is not needed when the fake FB is blooming and multiple itself with ladies want to be my "friend". .Philipinas are one of the most jealous of their art. On FB one can see all your friends and friends of friends. It is the tool we need to scroll around. But how to stop the girls you befriend to peep on the other girls in your inner circle?

I also wonder if the new feature on DIA -showing how many contacts and messages you got a day. Makes sense.

[D Cups]

Maybe you need a sexcretary or at least a wingman to help you out, Skogi? Tagreplacement0}.

[X Man]

This message found on CL Cebu:

I'm a single mom with tree kids (ellipsis) and willing to accept my kids and live with my tree kids.

[D Cups]

This message found on CL Cebu:

I'm a single mom with tree kids (ellipsis) and willing to accept my kids and live with my tree kids.Female Tarzan?

[ImAGuy]

Tried talking to about 20 random girls in my city on Facebook with zero response. I'm decent looking and early 30's. Badoo is just as bad. Also, every white guy I've seen on the street or in the mall is with a sub-5 girl always the same age if not older than the guy. Saw a handsome guy who had to be in his late twenties with a sub5 woman who looked 35. At that point I stared at the sky, expecting the legendary Skogis to descend from the heavens and smite this noob for not having 500 girls adding him hourly on Facebook.

[Hutsori]

I'm decent looking . . .Are you sure? I recall reading research a few years ago about guys who overrate their appearance by 2 points on the 1-10 scale - the psychological phenomenon of 'self-enhancement'. A lot of fours thinking they're sixes. Post some of your photos on a hot-or-not website and let the public opine. This is also a good way to have photos selected for your dating profiles.

Take heart. An okcupid study showed women rate men low yet still message them, http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/.

". . . women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable. But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arent good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway."

[Pantot]

Are you sure? I recall reading research a few years ago about guys who overrate their appearance by 2 points on the 1-10 scale - the psychological phenomenon of 'self-enhancement'. A lot of fours thinking they're sixes. Post some of your photos on a hot-or-not website and let the public opine. This is also a good way to have photos selected for your dating profiles.

Take heart. An okcupid study showed women rate men low yet still message them, http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/.

". . . women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable. But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arent good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway."I dunno about that. I never heard about credible polling in the Philippines. I have found the opposite to be true on the ground.

When my friends who barely travel and are puzzled about why I go the Phils I try to explain like this.

When I'm there I'm 6'2" (I'm 5'9 1/2" I'm viewed as much more handsome than I am here at home, maybe +3 on your scale though I never used that metric maybe I will, thanks. I am viewed as wealthy, while here I am quite frugal and not at all wealthy. My dick becomes a source of awe and grows 3 inches and increases in girth in the eyes of the girls.

My age effectively is cut in half and I'm able to attract females the age and attractiveness I did when I was in college. Is it a sustainable reality and is it true? No of course not. Are they expert in buttering me up? Hell yes but its intoxicating. Would it be reality if I were there 365 24/7? No way. But in three week bursts a few times a year its a well earned and paid for tonic for life.

All they see is pale skin and a 'pointed nose'. I have come to they conclusion most of the girls in the provinces and new to AC and manila or who have very little first hand exposure to foriegners can't tell a handsome one from a homely one.

Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.

[D Cups]

Tried talking to about 20 random girls in my city on Facebook with zero response. I'm decent looking and early 30's. Badoo is just as bad. Also, every white guy I've seen on the street or in the mall is with a sub-5 girl always the same age if not older than the guy. Saw a handsome guy who had to be in his late twenties with a sub5 woman who looked 35. At that point I stared at the sky, expecting the legendary Skogis to descend from the heavens and smite this noob for not having 500 girls adding him hourly on Facebook.Try date in asia and get their skype if they have it. American women? Forget it! None of them are worth the trouble plus most are overweight, bitchy and selfish, lousy lovers. I stick to Asian and Latin women? They know how to treat a man!

[Member #4351]

Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.Yes, probably "sexual shoplifter" kuripot cheapskates.

[Hutsori]

I have found the opposite to be true on the ground.Yep. Of course the ground isn't wastebook and badoo, the places where the OP's attempts to attract women were based.


Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.Though I hesitate to use the word 'solely' (and 'never' & 'always') when the issue is debatable, you're mostly right. Of course the OP only mentioned his "decent" looks and did not disclose the content of his messages so it's difficult to analyse the reasons for their shunning him. Knowing how attractive women receive several dozen messages everyday I think their ignoring him could be due to one or more of the following reasons (some serious and other less so): he's not as decent looking as he thinks he is; he's much better looking than he thinks he is and the girls are scared of his handsomeness; he's sending boring 'Hi' messages; he's sending rude messages; the girls prefer other blokes; the girls are too lazy or busy to read or reply; the women he's contacted are all comatose or deceased; something else. If forced to pick one sole reason . . . I guess they've forgotten their passwords.


Yes, probably "sexual shoplifter" kuripot cheapskates.Perhaps. But since it's only messages he's sent it seems unlikely the women could deduce his miserliness unless his profile photos depict him as a destitute beggar or mangy hobo or his message says "fuck for free" unambiguously.

I don't know whether the OP is looking genuinely for recommendations, but if he is then he ought to include more details about his approach. If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.

[Blanquiceleste]

Yep....

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If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.Great post, some solid learning here. I have tried the approach used by the almighty Skogis and it works quite well. The first contact is made on ground in the real world. You treat the first few contacts really well and then they spread the word for you. Its like having your own personal pimp. And the results are delightful.

That said, I am none closer than Mars in terms of the number of chicks banged thru this route as compared to Skogis.

[Python75]

If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.This is my preferred approach now and it has been incredibly successful. I no longer use dating sites.

[Wicked Roger]

This is my preferred approach now and it has been incredibly successful. I no longer use dating sites.This way is the best IMHO and have used this method for a number if years. I ask about their friends etc and sure enough some are always willing to meet. Even better some are 'educated' about bisexuality and the joys of threesomes, group and the need for 'accessories'.

All from asking nicely when I see a photo of the cuties with her friends. Am doing this at the moment and new one in Cebu is preparing to meet innocent me.

[ImAGuy]

Whoa, guys! I wasn't saying that I'm having trouble meeting girls, just that meeting them offline is much easier than Facebook, Badoo, etc. At least in my experience.

It could be Cavite, too.

[Worf1972]

Great post, some solid learning here. I have tried the approach used by the almighty Skogis and it works quite well. The first contact is made on ground in the real world. You treat the first few contacts really well and then they spread the word for you. Its like having your own personal pimp. And the results are delightful.

That said, I am none closer than Mars in terms of the number of chicks banged thru this route as compared to Skogis.Women are more likely to judge & view a man as more attractive when they see another woman looking, smiling at him or knows him .

[Pip Jaeger]

All they see is pale skin and a 'pointed nose'. I have come to they conclusion most of the girls in the provinces and new to AC and manila or who have very little first hand exposure to foriegners can't tell a handsome one from a homely one.You forgot that they also see a fat wallet and a potential ticket out of there; perhaps even more so for some of the ignorant province girls. For many of them there we're nothing but a walking ATM machine.

[X Man]

An Filipina friend (from the past) posted a picture of a hospital room with a vague comment that implied she was in the hospital. Of course some of her friends inquired about her health and what is wrong. Her reply, "two years ago, ha, ha".

I guess humor doesn't cross cultural boundaries very well.

(I was going to put this in the Filipinas thread, but they are busy talking about health care over there).

Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. I'm doing as well as possible considering I'm not in the Philippines! X Man.

[Cbea20]

An Filipina friend (from the past) posted a picture of a hospital room with a vague comment that implied she was in the hospital. Of course some of her friends inquired about her health and what is wrong. Her reply, "two years ago, ha, ha".

I guess humor doesn't cross cultural boundaries very well....Laughing it off is how she deflects blame for lying or misleading. She implies that she was only joking. They do know when they are doing wrong!

[Member #4387]

I agree that most of my mongering is hazzlefree but not allways ofcourse. For my upcomming Makati trip and during my pre com work (mostly through my fakebook ofcourse) the following occured. Did have a new friend request from a lovely lady who indeed had a few mutual friends I allready befriended (non of those I have boinked though). I welcomed her into my alter world and passed on to her my regular copy / paste opening message (in short I tell how sexy she looks, I am in town only very short period of time, we have small inhouse room party, we have to be effective and if she wants to meet up, her viber etc etc etc). Strangely I could feel something was cooking / not right after I passed on this msg to her. And rightfully so. In return I got this huge rant she knew who I was. I asked ofcourse how and choked when I got her reply. She is waitress at A nearby eatery close to Ascott and she ofcourse has noticed I bring in quite a few girls for drinks and bites to eat (they know what I drink, what I prefer to eat and my given Makati name). She in a way could be a danger to my system, so I quickfixed my fakebook and deleted all her mutual friends along with her. No point in having her mutuals as she obviously, and most rightfully so, would tell her "friends" so would not, under normal circumstances, stand a chance indulging into "her group of people". I write this off as a minor hickup only and I am still getting ready to feast (yeah I know this is phils and normal probably don't exists but still). I will ofcourse find another safespot to share my drinks and bites with arriving girls (when I feel like it). Second alternative is to go solo down to "the place" and straighten things out with her so I can still use It as a safe haven.

[Mr Enternational]

Strangely I could feel something was cooking / not right after I passed on this msg to her. And rightfully so. In return I got this huge rant she knew who I was. I asked ofcourse how and choked when I got her reply. She is waitress at A nearby eatery close to Ascott and she ofcourse has noticed I bring in quite a few girls for drinks and bites to eat (they know what I drink, what I prefer to eat and my given Makati name). So why didn't you just tell her that it was her turn?

[Member #4387]

Mostly my mongering is hazzlefree but this time I struck a bad wave in my selection of girls. Here we have the typical, "ok sweetie, then we have a deal we meet outside my place at this or that time as agreed? I will come down pick you when you text me you outside my place, ok?" Her answer: "Huh". Its nothing more motivating than having arranged everything down to the smallest detail with a girl, she seems to understand and then when I am about to close everything down you get the "huh" comment.

I am overreacting when I say I struck a bad wave in my selections of girls but when out of 50,2 stupid girls, realy can destroy what so far was a perfect day. I don't know how they do it or how it is possible to be as little attentive as these two birds, hehe. I can laugh about it now but if you bother to read on my rant was something like this:

"Here we have communicated in FB a couple of days, we have the time set and we are excited to meet eachother for small inhouse party, an effective date so to speak. From all our mutual communication when I sum up all this before travelling towards phils I get "huh" as a response. You claim to be educated girl. To transfer our communication into a math class it could go something like this: you nod your head all the time pretend you understand what the teacher is teaching you. You have no clue though what is comming from the teachers mouth so at the end of the class all you are left with is a big "HUH" in your head, am I right?

On my behalf this was a wake up call to stay sharp and control, during communication, the girls are paying attention so I could stop the "huh's" at an earlier stage and maybe move on to the next one in line. Live and learn, live and learn.

I would not bet to much money on her reply beeing something far from "huh" but on the other hand you never know. I on the other hand have moved on and are left by 48 girls to pick from this trip.

It may be more fun in the philippines but it can be irritating getting there.

[Member #4387]

From time to time its hard to avoid girls mentioning this headline sentence and I add it mostly comes from girls I suspect in the beginning not to be totaly innocent, hehe. Anyway I recieved "today I have big problem" from a spinner. I pretty much knew where this was going so I replied: "me too, my house burned down, damn it". Never heard anything more regarding her problem at least this or simular emergencies will keep you on top of the problemstats.

[Wicked Roger]

From time to time its hard to avoid girls mentioning this headline sentence and I add it mostly comes from girls I suspect in the beginning not to be totaly innocent, hehe. Anyway I recieved "today I have big problem" from a spinner. I pretty much knew where this was going so I replied: "me too, my house burned down, damn it". Never heard anything more regarding her problem at least this or simular emergencies will keep you on top of the problemstats.I say " I bet is mine bigger than yours, so lets compare and if mine is not bigger, Ok I listen about the problem" Same MO same result.

Or I get "I can't eat today" or "I can't sit the exams" or "I stuck in hospital as I can't pay so I not allowed to leave" or "my Lola died and I can't go see her and funeral am so sad am crying" or " I can't return home to my family as I cat but the ticket" (ie she went somewhere one way ticket only! To that I reply "well sweety, whoever asked you go there can pay for you to go back home di ba?

Lots of good 'openers'.

[Sammon]

From time to time its hard to avoid girls mentioning this headline sentence and I add it mostly comes from girls I suspect in the beginning not to be totaly innocent, hehe. Anyway I recieved "today I have big problem" from a spinner. I pretty much knew where this was going so I replied: "me too, my house burned down, damn it". Never heard anything more regarding her problem at least this or simular emergencies will keep you on top of the problemstats.When I chat a girl if she says she has a problem I delete the contact. Problem usually means demands for money.

[Member #4387]

Here the other day I was vibering a girl in Makati and we were into the final stages of closing a deal for my upcomming trip. Then I got a regular norwegian male friend online (viber) and I was telling him about this Makati hottie I was supposed to meet. I told him what I would do to her and when we supposed to meet. The problem was I send this one, in norwegian language, to the girl at stake here, hehe. I just put out a msg to her "sorry sweetie wrongsend" believing she would never bother.

A few minutes later I get this msg in return: "Hello, xxx, I just got another norwegian friend to translate your msg to me. He says the translation is like this: "I think you are hot, I want to fuck you. I give you lot of money if you come see me when I am in Makati". I never did say those things except from the last part "meeting in Makati". I think the norwegian dude wanted this competition (me) to go away.

[Pantot]

Here the other day I was vibering a girl in Makati and we were into the final stages of closing a deal for my upcomming trip. Then I got a regular norwegian male friend online (viber) and I was telling him about this Makati hottie I was supposed to meet. I told him what I would do to her and when we supposed to meet. The problem was I send this one, in norwegian language, to the girl at stake here, hehe. I just put out a msg to her "sorry sweetie wrongsend" believing she would never bother.

A few minutes later I get this msg in return: "Hello, xxx, I just got another norwegian friend to translate your msg to me. He says the translation is like this: "I think you are hot, I want to fuck you. I give you lot of money if you come see me when I am in Makati". I never did say those things except from the last part "meeting in Makati". I think the norwegian dude wanted this competition (me) to go away.Skogis what's your hourly wage range? The time clock is a 1. 5 hour window correct?

[Beijing4987]

Skogis.

I met an Aussie on the metro in Suzhou, China. He has been in China 14 years. His take on the educational model here:

"Nothing upstairs" Also the Chinese are half deaf. If I scream in passable mandarin I get a response. It's taken me ten years to reach this conclusion. After one learns the numbers in mandarin, the conversation are clear. Everything is about money. Worship of money.