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Wicked Roger

11-29-15, 05:07

Here the other day I was vibering a girl in Makati and we were into the final stages of closing a deal for my upcomming trip. Then I got a regular norwegian male friend online (viber) and I was telling him about this Makati hottie I was supposed to meet. I told him what I would do to her and when we supposed to meet. The problem was I send this one, in norwegian language, to the girl at stake here, hehe. I just put out a msg to her "sorry sweetie wrongsend" believing she would never bother.

A few minutes later I get this msg in return: "Hello, xxx, I just got another norwegian friend to translate your msg to me. He says the translation is like this: "I think you are hot, I want to fuck you. I give you lot of money if you come see me when I am in Makati". I never did say those things except from the last part "meeting in Makati". I think the norwegian dude wanted this competition (me) to go away.Skoggy,

Some friends are not your friends when it comes to pinay pussy LOL.

Now some (for example me) are more 'sharing' and would gladly threesome her etc and teach new and more boring things about the western lifestyle. Of course I would reciprocate with 'sharing' my friends.

Choose your mongering friends wisely LOL (like you do your tool box in some ways!

Ikksman

11-29-15, 05:44

There has not been a lot written about the huge inroads Wechat has made into the PI market recently, and the usefulness of the product in meeting freebies, part-timers or WGs anywhere Weixin is used.

Today, I positioned myself on Burgos Circle within a stone's throw of where I used to live, and 'discovered' the 'people nearby'. I immediately got the closest 100 girls who had Wechat on their phones, all within a radius of 2 Km. The closest was a big titted Korean within 100 m. They all appeared to be quite young.

Wow, I liked Jana Banana (200m), Snaberang_pretty (400m), and Alexa (600m) with big arse and message "For BGC Makati area only!". Also Reggie, who I am sure is not a WG but had the enticing message "I am just a good girl who likes to do bad things"!

I sent messages to eleven (11) girls, picking a variety of types, including a couple offering massage. Another message was sent to what appeared to be twins (or at least sisters).

Within a short time, I had responses from six (6) of the girls. It pays to have an attractive profile. And my photo is actually a recent one of me, so how could they resist? And if ISGers have a few brain cells left to rub together they could are actually to see my photo on Wechat! But, then why would one want to!

Anyway, after a short chat, four (4) of the girls offered to meet with me today! Not a bad hit rate! Maybe a fluke, or maybe just BS? Up to you to decide! Ha ha!

BTW, at one time I developed a methodology to quickly and accurately identify the true categories of the girls, as often, in China, a tout would pretend to a WG, or the photos were fake, etc. Not sure if this is necessary in PI.

You could relax in a nice restaurant (say, near Market!Market!) enjoying a breakfast, and chatting to SYTs and selecting a freebie or WG for the day!.

As one can electronically 'position' themselves anywhere, you can dramatically change the type of girls you tend to get listed in the 'top 100'.

Ikksman
Peripatetic Puki Plunderer

P.S. I have a special Wechat account for this. Don't use your normal account if you have a partner!

Ikksman

11-30-15, 00:17

{S N I P}Today, I positioned myself on Burgos Circle within a stone's throw of where I used to live, and 'discovered' the 'people nearby'. I immediately got the closest 100 girls who had Wechat on their phones, all within a radius of 2 Km. The closest was a big titted Korean within 100 m. They all appeared to be quite young.{S N I P}
Within a short time, I had responses from six (6) of the girls. It pays to have an attractive profile. And my photo is actually a recent one of me, so how could they resist? And if ISGers have a few brain cells left to rub together they could are actually to see my photo on Wechat! But, then why would one want to!
Anyway, after a short chat, four (4) of the girls offered to meet with me today! Not a bad hit rate! Maybe a fluke, or maybe just BS? Up to you to decide! Ha ha!
Ikksman
Peripatetic Puki PlundererNow. 11 messages sent, 10 responses received. One girl I accepted as a friend sent multiple messages:

"At BGC now want to pick me up?"
"pick me up I'm bored"
"Where we go now??"
"Nothing to do, do you want to treat me ???"

Most were young and attractive! I politely made excuses to all the girls (sick carabao). After all, a bit difficult to teleport from Africa to BGC!

Ikks

ImAGuy

11-30-15, 05:23

Now. 11 messages sent, 10 responses received. One girl I accepted as a friend sent multiple messages:

"At BGC now want to pick me up?"
"pick me up I'm bored"
"Where we go now??"
"Nothing to do, do you want to treat me ???"

Most were young and attractive! I politely made excuses to all the girls (sick carabao). After all, a bit difficult to teleport from Africa to BGC!

IkksHas Ikksman risen to the level of Skogis with his magical ability to pull non-ladyboys off Wechat? Who would doubt his seemingly miraculous feats? There are no screen shots but I am sure this happened because I have joined their ranks as well! BRB another 10/10 coming over for my daily noon freebie, after that I will walk to the 7/11 and be accosted by waves of models, go onto Badoo and have smoking hot girls swearing their undying loyalty, oh, and have girls refer me to their friends after I shag them for peanuts because my hairy potbelly is just too sexy to resist!

Member #4387

11-30-15, 22:50

Has Ikksman risen to the level of Skogis with his magical ability to pull non-ladyboys off Wechat? Who would doubt his seemingly miraculous feats? There are no screen shots but I am sure this happened because I have joined their ranks as well! BRB another 10/10 coming over for my daily noon freebie, after that I will walk to the 7/11 and be accosted by waves of models, go onto Badoo and have smoking hot girls swearing their undying loyalty, oh, and have girls refer me to their friends after I shag them for peanuts because my hairy potbelly is just too sexy to resist!Ikksman are far away from my level both in distance (he is in Africa I presume) and in numbers (he only send out like 11 msgs and that's to little hehe). I don't know what I did wrong to you but by comming forward as a successful mongerer I must also tolerate that some people will use my MO and my numbers of girls to benefit their hate towards me. Maybe they are not that good in mongering themself, I don't know. But what I would like them haters aka ImAGuy to be is to be accurate while ranting. From lets say 1000 pinays (give and take a few) in 4 years, I met 1 girl through Wechat and 2 girls from Badoo. 7/11 I never picked from bcs in Glorietta its no such thing. I don't visit places so far from Glorietta so I am able to hit girls in the 7/11 stores (at least a 10 min walk). I sometimes hit up girls working the Glorietta malls though and beeing kind of successful doing this I must add. But by far mostly my girls comes from, these days, the fake FB account. Its only for the fun and the new pukie I do this. Last trip which ended a couple of days ago I did only 22 girls in 7 days. I will share pics as usual in designated thread, not from all the girls but from a few. I believe I've just started look forward to see some of yours you fine keyboard warrior:-) And ofcourse, like i do from some posters here, its allowed to just hit "ignore" button if one feel unhappy with a BM.
But i have a hairy belly i give u that:-) Most of my girls never initiate any money discussion(as them girls are left out early in convo and very far from beeing a potential meet up subject). Even so i never let a girl outside my room without her beeing cashed up. Peanuts i dont know but i give them 2 or 3000 pisos no matter what after session. No one allowed walking out from my apt emptyhanded(rare exceptions but they are regulars and get compensated in other ways). The peanut metafor does not apply to my MO i am afraid as there are others beeing more cash sensitive inside here and out there.. My girls would allways in a way walk outside beeing happy ex them girls beeing rather angry i give them cash(most of them accept it thougj):-)

FreebieFan

12-01-15, 01:43

Ikksman

12-01-15, 02:01

Thanks for all your responses. I understand there will be skepticism on the part of many readers. ISGers should make up their own minds whether claims are possibly valid or just BS. Many may arbitrarily and instinctively shout "BS!" - does not worry me. I simply hope that I am able to help at least a few guys.

I am sure that everyone here read and understood the post. I am sure that everyone understood that I was not simply starting the Wechat application and waiting for girls (bacla?) to contact me. And only selecting eleven (11) girls was because it was a simple experiment to demonstrate the potential. We are also fortunate that the PI does not appear to censor either the photos or the text. This makes things much easier for us!

I did not post screenshots as I felt it was too much effort to blur dozens of faces. I could email screenshots to some, but I think that it is easier for guys to try the method themselves. Up to you! If you want screenshots, tell me what specific types of screenshots you require and I will email them to you.

There are many, many factors that affect success rates. I have been using Wechat since 2010 (when it was first released in its country of origin) and have developed successful techniques, which are dependent on the country and target girls. I believe that it is safer, quicker and less effort than FB, DIA, PL etc,

Mongers need to develop their own techniques to suit their environment and needs, but I am happy to help serious users by PM and suggest refinements.

Note that the developer Tencent has developed slightly different versions for release in different countries. I use the native version. Oops - racist? But I am criticised for over-mentioning and relating to the Middle Kingdom country!

Quick summary:

(1) The FakeGPS app enables you to position yourself anywhere in the world down to a specific address, usually in a location where you feel your target species are likely to be hiding. And you can shift location in a few seconds if the 'fish' aren't there.

(2) Wechat has text, talk and video available, photos can be easily attached, translation inbuilt, and girls cannot see your other friends.

(3) Set up an attractive profile photo (mine is singing Karaoke), and 'Whats Up'. Set your region to wherever you are going to monger, if you want to give the impression that you live there.

(4) Don't allow other people to 'Send Greeting' (which is a 'Friend Request') You be the driver and send the 'Friend Requests' (with an appropriate message) to whom you are attracted.

(5) Make a series of 'Moments' with interesting photos that will attract the girls (after they have accepted your 'Friend Request'). For example I have some photo showing me in a microlite over Victoria Falls and walking and patting a lion. This always raises interest. Don't have to be up to date! Note that the terms: posts, albums, and moments are largely synonymous!

(6) Write a number of 'Friend Request' and message templates that you can quickly use.

(7) Using FakeGPS, select a promising area for your target species.

(8) Either the day before you arrive or on the day of arrival, do a 'People Nearby' search. Browse the 100 girls listed and select the most likely few that you want to send a 'Friend Request'.

a. There are many techniques for recognising your target and it would be too lengthy to document all the details here.

b. It only takes a few seconds to change the target area if the top 100 were not to your liking.

c. Note that you will get different demographics at different times of the day.

(9) When you receive acceptances, a few short messages should be all it takes to set your meet. It may be necessary of course to confirm a few details with the girl, and of course you can do this via Wechat text, voice or video.

(10) As you gain more experience, you can refine your technique.

I think that it is a tremendous advantage to be able to target your desired species by location, and control the process. Just my point of view.

If anyone would like further help, after trying the methodology, PM me and I will be glad to assist if I can!

Ikks
Peripatetic Puki Plunderer

P.S. Yes, I am in Africa at the moment.

Member #4387

12-01-15, 03:58

This your last report was a good one I must say. Informative and educational. As Westie would say: "nubes, learn from this(or take notes)". great work man.

Red Kilt

12-02-15, 07:57

Simmer

12-02-15, 08:36

Example 1: 4 ft 4 ins; 70 kg.

Example 2: 5 ft; 32 kgs.

Example 3: 5 ft 11 ins; 47 kgs.Odd to mix metric and imperial.

Red Kilt

12-02-15, 10:58

Odd to mix metric and imperial.The site I was using does it. Height in imperial; weight in metric.

Your comment doesn't really have much relevance to the point I was making though but I guess it adds to your post tally.

GoodEnough

12-02-15, 11:17

It's sad to think that the education system does not permit them to have some idea of what a reasonable "guess" might be.RK is, as usual, correct. What's important about the height / weight data isn't the strange mix of imperial and metric systems, but the astounding inadequacies of an education system that didn't provide these women with sufficient knowledge to make reasonable estimates of height or weight.

GE.

Nightrider1

12-02-15, 12:08

Sammon

12-02-15, 12:33

I just reactivated 2 dating site profiles after a "holiday" of around 15 months, and I am immediately struck by the silly height and weight data that a number of girls (women) have posted on their sites.

It seems that many of them have no idea how tall they are or their weight.

Example 1: 4 ft 4 ins; 70 kg.

Example 2: 5 ft; 32 kgs.

Example 3: 5 ft 11 ins; 47 kgs.

I made a comment to each woman along the lines of.

"Are you really this short (or tall)?

"You're very heavy (or payat) for someone so tiny".

"Wow, 5 ft 11 ins and slim. You must be a model".

Each one replied in a similar way. They don't know what is their height or weight so they just guessed.

It's sad to think that the education system does not permit them to have some idea of what a reasonable "guess" might be.Most think if they look fat they need to say more than 100 lbs. If they think they are short they say 4, 11". They get stumped filling out personal profile. Finding their accurate hight and weight is not at all important to them unless they are applying for a job abroad. Anybody who says they are over 5' 5 " I would look at it as maybe a ladyboy.

For us mongers it is immaterial. Meet and then decide. Sometimes tiny bundles of energy can be lot of fun. Even fat girls are quite flexible in bed. Unless somebody is looking for life partner they should not even mention or question the intelligence. It is degrading to say the least. Just because your education is better than them does not mean you pick on them. Considering their existence in a tough situation it is not important to them to know their vital statistics.

Red Kilt

12-02-15, 13:15

For us mongers it is immaterial. Meet and then decide. Sometimes tiny bundles of energy can be lot of fun. Even fat girls are quite flexible in bed. Unless somebody is looking for life partner they should not even mention or question the intelligence. It is degrading to say the least. Just because your education is better than them does not mean you pick on them. Considering their existence in a tough situation it is not important to them to know their vital statistics.A cursory glance at my posting history will reveal that I never "pick on" filipinas nor do I disrespect them. I live here and it is in my interest to have them treat me as a kababayan.

With all due respect regarding Sammon's assertions, I was not referring to intelligence per se in my earlier post, but not knowing ones own height and weight is a proxy indicator for the sad state of the education system, even acknowledging that for some women their height and weight may not be "important".

It reveals how even things as basic as functional literacy and numeracy (the ability to cope with daily life, including marketing, money management, filling up forms etc), is NOT seen as being a worthy outcome of even a short time spent in the education system. I wonder how the girl who says she is 140 cms; 80 kgs manages in the market when she is buying the family meat and vegs.

If a filipina is filling up a profile on a dating site then she is at least able to access the internet, so it puzzles me why she would not seek valid measures for her height and weight since it is an immediate up-front indicator of her likely appearance (even if a photo is displayed). Despite Sammon's comment that (for him) "it is immaterial", for some of us (me anyway), dimensions matter a lot.

I am tall and slim, exercise daily, and I am not going to invest any time in communicating with anyone less than 150 cm and more than 60 kgs, notwithstanding all the anecdotes about hot spinners and sexy chubbies.

As always, whatever rocks your own boat.

D Cups

12-02-15, 14:54

This is not unique to PI. After 2 trips to the Dominican Republic and a fair amount of searching on Dominican Cupid (DC) I, too, am amazed at girl-provided misinformation. The DC site also has blanks for measurements and cup sizes. Most of the chicas are way off. For example they might say 36 Bee when they are really a 40 dee. So what I do is bring a variety of gift bras ranging from 32 Bee to 36 dee for the PI; and ranging from 34 Cee to 42 doubledee for the DR. Most of the DR girls I've been with are 38 or 40 dee. Just an international comparison. Cheers.

I just reactivated 2 dating site profiles after a "holiday" of around 15 months, and I am immediately struck by the silly height and weight data that a number of girls (women) have posted on their sites.

It seems that many of them have no idea how tall they are or their weight.

so they just guessed.

It's sad to think that the education system does not permit them to have some idea of what a reasonable "guess" might be..

Mr Enternational

12-02-15, 18:48

This is not unique to PI. After 2 trips to the Dominican Republic and a fair amount of searching on Dominican Cupid (DC) I, too, am amazed at girl-provided misinformation. The DC site also has blanks for measurements and cup sizes. Most of the chicas are way off. For example they might say 36 Bee when they are really a 40 dee.The accountable difference in this case is that Latinas like to wear clothes that are smaller than their actual size. So they are keying in the size they use and not actually the size they are. Even big girls will wear clothes that it looked like they grew out of 10 years ago. I used to date a Panamanian and noticed that her bra was way too small for her tits. It looked like the biscuits coming out of a can. I asked her why she does not wear the correct size. She said that it looked more sexy that way. Yeah, but you can't be walking out in public like that, especially with me. I said there is no way that is comfortable. Soon she bought new bras that were the correct size to make me happy.

Next step was the boots. Why the hell would you own furry boots where the temperature never goes under 100 degrees Fahrenheit (and why do they even sell them here)? That was about as smart as someone at the North Pole owning a pair of flip-flops. That was a deal breaker for her though. She kept the boots and got rid of my ass!

Know your audience.

Simmer

12-02-15, 19:22

The site I was using does it. Height in imperial; weight in metric.

Your comment doesn't really have much relevance to the point I was making though but I guess it adds to your post tally.I was making an observation without casting any blame. The point you missed was that perhaps, just perhaps, they knew their stats in metric but failed at conversion. And this wouldn't be limited to Filipinos either.

The Cane

12-21-15, 12:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9aRmmWX5XI

And then he screws up the written apology!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2015/12/20/steve-harvey/77681786/

And this guy is the spokesperson for a university? Please!

BrainDrain

01-07-16, 01:55

Mbsl65

01-12-16, 06:40

"Hi friend that's my pic of my daughter looking friends".

Mother is 61 yrs old and daughter 27 yrs old. Scary!. .

Azmodeus Fl

01-12-16, 18:10

Were they offering a double? And what does the daughter look like. Do you have a picture of them.

"Hi friend that's my pic of my daughter loking friends".

Mother is 61 yrs old and daughter 27 yrs old. Scary!. .

Member #4387

01-20-16, 08:43

Met this chick and she was ok lookwice (I grade her 7,5). Whats not so nice ID that she was reluctant in showing off her pukie, istack a finger inside it and I felt bumps. It was warts at the entry of pussy and I felt the odd odure. Met her through my normal fake FB but I found out later on she also have a profile in Pinalove as name given. You are hereby warned and if you must do her use two condoms. I backed off as condoms is not my thing.
Guys; pls dont refer to me if u meet her ok. Just hide this information within urself.. I am not trying to talk this girl down as she is nice in most ways. Pukie not healthy so i give this as solid advice/heads up..

GoodLickee

01-22-16, 11:03

Hi,

I'm looking for info on how his works. I'm hoping to do my first trip early this year.

Hutsori

01-23-16, 14:29

Hi,

I'm looking for info on how his works. I'm hoping to do my first trip early this year.Read. Consider. Execute.

WestCoast1

01-23-16, 16:36

Read. Consider. Execute.

I'm looking for info on how his works. I'm hoping to do my first trip early this year.Dooood, RTTF. Feel free to PM me with specific information requests.

Member #4387

01-26-16, 05:29

One girl I contacted through fake FB on my last trip was willing to come my place with, what according to her was supposed to be, her sister. I contacted her and everything worked out fine. I gave my usual "time is important and an appointment is an appointment" speach and she said she understood. I confirmed this for a few days prior to our meeting. The evening before our meet the final viber was sent with confirmation she and "sis" would come 1 pm my hotel. She also did send a screenshot of my hotel as she was proud to have found the direction to my hotel on her own.

The day arrives and I get the overnighting girl out around 11 am to recoupe for a nice threesome session. At noon I send on a text bcs normaly girls will text earlier same day they come for last confirmation. No response. 12:15 pm I call her, she picks up and she told me she was in Puerto Galera and told me and I quote: "I think I be late". Normaly I meet girls handling time well but she must have been amongst the stupidest home sapience walking this planet. I just gave in immediatly and just hang up the phone.

Texted a substitute and she arrived with her "cousine" 1 HR later. Don't know if this was an actual cousine and who realy cares? I for sure don't and I don't start any familyresearch.

Member #4387

01-28-16, 12:31

Don't know if anyone pays attention to my doings or wrongdoings but anyway next on my agenda is to cope with this neverending and very boring "Hi" or "hey" msgs. The "did you have lunch or dinner" shit are just their way of beeing polite so I just ignore them / gave up.

My point is, as some of these girls runs out of load rather frequent, is to get them to provide more valuable info in each msg. Then they could save many texts and thereby save load. Some have allready got it and some answers by "huh". Even if my crowd is supposed to be at least UNI level girls and up, they are not the sharpest items in the drawer (not that I am myself but still) I think it is a good idea.

Member #4387

01-28-16, 16:37

As earlier stated it seems it is me dealing with the minor cute issues in dealing with pinays and I leave "where to retire" up to you solving world mysteries. I am not like that yet as there will be a good portion of years until I retire. But I would bet if Norway isn't overpopulayed by syrians, Afghanistan and iraqi people I most likely retire where I was born or sth like that. If we are invaded, as it seems these days, then I will look up the retire thread and find myself a small island with wifi and playboy magazines and just wait to end this (no pun intended).

Phone use; OMG last trip went chaotic. I had 3 phones blinking at the same time and a forth for incomming vibers, whatsapps, lines, wechats whatever. I must say I've never been so tired going home ever like last time. You wouldn't believe it but beeing afraid of missing out a few good pukies here and there I've tried to communicate with them all. In the end that was ofcourse hopeless bcs, as an addition to my last posting here, most of msgs conteins only "Hi" or "hey" here u have some other variants;

"I am close"(1 sec after "I am here now", another sec after "where are you"(and I've told multiple times I wait my room)) Another useless msgs: "where is Ascott"(after they initially told me they know or have found out where it is at), "how are you"(after talking the whole day), "did you eat breakfast, lunch or dinner", "I am on my way"(for later tell I go shower now), "I am in taxi you pay"(This has been veryfied multiple times I do), "what are you doing"(5 sec before they doc at my place), after answering that you can a few sec later get "what are you doing now" and the story goes on and on. Could write a book on this subject.

Anyone with enough time care to add or join in?.

FreebieFan

01-29-16, 01:57

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"I am close"(1 sec after "I am here now", another sec after "where are you"(and I've told multiple times I wait my room)) Another useless msgs: "where is Ascott"(after they initially told me they know or have found out where it is at), "how are you"(after talking the whole day), "did you eat breakfast, lunch or dinner", "I am on my way"(for later tell I go shower now), "I am in taxi you pay"(This has been veryfied multiple times I do), "what are you doing"(5 sec before they doc at my place), after answering that you can a few sec later get "what are you doing now" and the story goes on and on. Could write a book on this subject.

Anyone with enough time care to add or join in?.You are dealing with people who have adult bodies but the undeveloped minds of younger people. Lack of education, a diet of inane instant TV, lack of curiosity about the world around them etc.

The " I'm here " always makes me laugh and raises my blood pressure (high blood LOL) as it exemplifies all that's wrong with these sweet young ladies whos bodies we like but whos minds are less than attractive.

When a honey says " I'm here " you only have a few possible replies and most of us probably say " where are you ". That will aways generate a " I'm here " by way of reply.

It then takes a Sherlock Holmes type of investigation, using simple words and simple phrases to try to understand exactly where her " here " is. If in a good mood, its a good game. If horny with balls threatening to turn blue its truly infuriating.

" Hi where is your here " will create a " huh ' reply.

The only way I know how to deal with this, is to call the honey (assuming she can answer etc) and ask for distinguishing landmarks. (" Huh what's distinguish? " Ok so tell me what you see so I can figure out where you are " Ok hon I get it, I can see people and cars and some restaurants ". Sometimes I think they do it to test our patience. Other times they do it because they truly don't know any better and were never taught so.

FreebieFan

01-29-16, 02:00

Hi,

I'm looking for info on how his works. I'm hoping to do my first trip early this year.Strange name. Assuming that the same word ending correlation as employee / employer exists, then you name suggests you would like to be licked. But how can you be good, if you are the one being licked. ? One of ISG's more unusual names.

Member #4387

01-29-16, 03:46

As FF says, adult bodies with undeveloped minds, is so true and further on "the lack of curiosity about the world around them" brings me over to this other observation I did by a girl true to both these statements;.

We met outside Ascott and to her and others defence, Ascott entrance can be tricky to see if you arrive from the wrong angel and contains only a couple of neon blue written signs put here and there by the entrance close surroundings. Add in a big pole of the same neon blue written shit placed in the corner of the small dolphin park it takes some ignoring not to see it if you arrive ie by car from the Dusit Than / SM side or from Ayala station. Well this girl managed to ignore, probably not looking up from her phonedisplay more than a couple of seconds each 5 minutes, all signs and didn't question anything before she ended up at Legaspy street (passed Greenbelt). To you familiar with this area that is quite a walk and during this process when she texted me she arrived Ayala station I did my best to guide her, in a straight line, directly to the entrance of Glorietta 4 (Bread Talk and Tony Ramos). When she told me she passed Outback I knew I was succeeding in my guidings and I texted her "nice you only have 50 mts left or so"(which only created the "huh" response ofcourse). Small and short feet can walk fast I believe and in light of the aftermath I should ofcourse called her when she was close to Outback to avoid the delays texting brings into the process.

As I had instructed her to just go to a standstill outside Bradtalk / Tony Romas and I allready arrived down to pick her I could early see that it hadn't worked out very well. Ofcourse there was a few birds standing outside the joint but no one looking so good as I expected this bird to do. After a few embaressing "Hello, you arent by any any chance waiting for xyz (me)" to standing girls not to far from mentioned place I knew she now was off track. So I called.

After a nervous 3 times effort to even get her or mine (phil phone smart shit) to connect properly I managed to hear enough from her to quickly establish that I had a lonely girl lost somewhere between our meeting point and Shangrila hotel. She told me she would just turn around and walk back through Glorietta mall and meet me that way. This calmed me down so I just waited her outside. As mentioned small feet walk fast so I wasnt expecting to take so long. 10 min later I was sensing, again, something wasnt right so I called. 5/6 attempts without beeing able to hear others than "swosh, shhhhhh, crrrrr, brrrr" when she picked up. At most ID heard something I recognized as "brrr shhhh crrr LEG. Shhhhh crrrr brrrr" and then it was disconnected. I had strong signals on my phone but maybe that doesn't says it all here in this country. I tried text her a "where are you" despite beeing afraid what kind of answer you can get from a question like this. In this case it was actually better bcs I didn't get a reply at all. I was giving up on her and went back inside my room.

15 min later I got 4 msgs "hey", "sorry", "I out of load" and "had to buy new load hehe"(all in 4 msgs ofcourse). We established she was in Legaspy street and I somehow managed her to fetch a taxi and instructed her to sit inside it outside hotel entrance. This worked. I was now 45 min well into our session time and I had to rebook next session for later. But this was a fine female speciment so I would not let a chance to bone her go away that easily. So much hickups would on any other given day just made me think "next please".

Well inside the room things worked out normal; she had two small zips from a red Tanduay Ice (she claimed she loved it), she wanted to watch an episode of Two and a half Men as she claimed to love that show only asking for the first minute who all the characters wore. After mentioned minute she was playing with her phone so her interest in her loving show lasted an whole minute or so, hehe. Good thing they are sweet and sexy. I started our private show instead bcs then she at least had to pay soem attentions.

FreebieFan

01-29-16, 07:05

The girls are wonderful warm sweet loving (and can be scamming) but you arent going to be having a lot of intellectual conversations. The education system and the parental system of coddling and spoiling every kid doesn't create curiosity nor promote free thinking. So the girls live in their own shallow world with TV and Facebook as constant companions. Plus their kids who are sort of like living toys to them. ". Borrowed from someone I chatted with today....

"Hi I'm just an ordinary girl simple and very funny I love watching movies romantic comedy Cartoons Speacialy twilight I watch mybe 100 x and harry poter the series I love gossip girl amazing race I like amanda bynes I love her so much but now she sick I don't like exersice because I admit I lazy I'd love to cook especially Filipino food I'm addicted to chocolate in fact I eat 3 times a day that's my comfort food yes I admit and I'm proud to say I'm a single mom I love playing hide and seek I love to play with my son he like a toy car and the Lego in my daughter she wants to play a doll I have a job 3 times a week as a fashion sales clerk".

To the back seat guys who will shout " don't put these people down etc, that's not my intention. These girls are wonderful, fun and funny. But. If you are ever in the need of intellectual stimulii, its a lot harder to find than pussy. But most guys are happily satisfied with the pussy component.

Member #4387

01-29-16, 11:10

I get an angry crowd at for saying stuffs like this but FF beeing a much more long time contributor here and much more respected will get away with it, hehe. Many of these girls are streetsmart like hell but they lack common knowledge we are used to children of the age of 8-10 yo knows in our countries.

The typical convo, again for uni educated girls (at least they say so and they probably not study geography), will be they ask which part of USA Norway is. Well, there is a little city in USA called Little Norway in Winsconsin, so I have started to leave it at that. I don't think its that one the girls think about though but who realy cares. When a girl here the other day was admitting she also talked to a Belgium guy (which she knew was in Europe) and then asked me if this Belgium and Norway in US were close I just confirmed and told her yes.

Huts; long time ago (a few months) I told about this rookie callcenter bird stopping by early morning without any skills whatsoever and shaking like a rattlesnake. Then you, helpful as you are at times, gave me some advices how to ease these girls up. Well, on my last adventure here into phils I did exactly what you prescribed. I did a swift "lets go to bed as it is more easy to talk in comfort eachothers arms (bullshit but I got away with it)". She agreed and laid her ass down fully dressed. I start caressing her on cheek and mouth and soon got her to remove her jeans under the bedsheets. Then I gently started to feel her pussy outside her double panties and after a few minutes I stack a finger under the doble layer. Just to feel a well flooded juicy pussy. After some kissing she was tough enough to remove everything and we fucked. Not the best session in my life but there is allways something good about a rookie nervous girl you manage to overcome her fear with a little help from a few of my 10 friends (fingers). Thanks.

And to add a little cute one; me having a girl over to my place and she is riding taxi. I am stupid enough to ask her "where are u now?"(hoping to get some info on position, landmarks, time etc etc)but ofcourse not(and it is not totally wrong either but a different response than u would get from a bird back home i am sure), her answer is: "aww silly i am stell in taxi, u should know":-)

Dg8787

01-29-16, 14:34

English is a language not a measurement of intelligence.

Cwerburg99

02-06-16, 00:11

Wicked Roger

02-06-16, 17:17

Hi all,

I was wondering if it is safe to pick up girls through.

filipinocupid.com

Like most online dating sites, there are some profiles that are fake and.

Trying to scam you, I get that.

However, what I am a lot more worried about is that The girl you are trying to pick.

Up will turn out to show up with a theiving gang or worse still, Has anyone had any negative effects of this site?

Any stories I can read up on?

Thanks.Plenty advice on this forum if you RTFF.

Am surprised you ask this as you have been here many times (based on the FR history) and I would have thought you know the basics about picking up any girl regardless from where as the issue you are scared of could happen anywhere.

If scared don't try or go to Thailand.

Cwerburg99

02-08-16, 23:37

Plenty advice on this forum if you RTFF.

Am surprised you ask this as you have been here many times (based on the FR history) and I would have thought you know the basics about picking up any girl regardless from where as the issue you are scared of could happen anywhere.

If scared don't try or go to Thailand.Thank you Wicked, I have alway tried bars only in the past.

This time around, I'm leaning towards trying freelancer or proper girlfriend.

And maybe sticking with one person whole trip. Want to visit.

Islands and beaches, so good company is important.

Hence I asked about filipinocupid.

Alas someone else has pvt messaged me, informing that most.

Are scammers and not to bother.

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Amanut

02-09-16, 03:18

FC and DIA are both fine. I have had good luck on both sites and keep in touch between trips. The only issue is the time it takes to weed out the WGs and semi pros. I target and older audience who likely have a longer attention span than the younger ladies. Be careful on DIA not to talk openly about sex or the exchange of cash. It will get you banned. Move those conversations to YM where you can speak more openly, and see her on cam.

X Man

03-10-16, 23:18

GoodEnough

03-11-16, 01:53

As an American, from a country which will nominate either a bombastic, narcissistic moron or a true evangelical psychopath as a Presidential candidate, it's difficult to strike a judgmental tone about the ignorance of people in other countries; particularly when in my native country the renecks brandish their overwhelming ignorance of the world with great pride. That said however, it is true that the overall state of the education system here is beyond pathetic. Teachers are poorly trained, often pay bribes to get their jobs, and schools are poorly equipped. It's no wonder then, that the geographical knowledge of the average Filipino is so poor. Of course I'm not sure that the average Republican voter could locate Europe on a blank world map, so perhaps my criticism is unduly harsh.

Local schools here waste so much time on meaningless pageants, "art" projects, celebrations and other non-academic pursuits that the percentage of time spent actually studying anything substantive is fairly small. Couple that with the general ignorance of many teachers and the absence of learning resources and the net result isn't pretty.

GE.

MutantChicken

03-11-16, 03:42

Check out Shinez13 at DIA for one of the worst profiles I've seen. No pic, overweight, full of rules and demands and insults, unnecessary vulgarity, and the ubiquitous run. On sentence. Maybe there is a gorgeous woman behind all that negativity, but I doubt it.I see a growing trend of women like that, orig it was limited western women but now with the internet, ugly women who are only contacted because guys think they will be easy, now have princess attitudes, due to the 100's of guys saying Hi to them.

Red Kilt

03-11-16, 04:53

. . . That said however, it is true that the overall state of the education system here is beyond pathetic. Teachers are poorly trained, often pay bribes to get their jobs, and schools are poorly equipped. It's no wonder then, that the geographical knowledge of the average Filipino is so poor. .

Local schools here waste so much time on meaningless pageants, "art" projects, celebrations and other non-academic pursuits that the percentage of time spent actually studying anything substantive is fairly small. Couple that with the general ignorance of many teachers and the absence of learning resources and the net result isn't pretty.
I am not sure why this is in the "Chat Rooms" thread but I will respond in this same place.

It's unfortunate that you make such sweeping generalizations GE and I wonder about the base upon which you criticize every school and teacher in the Philippines. I also wonder how many state elementary and secondary schools you visited to accumulate enough data to make the claims that schools "waste so much time. ".

I am currently working with approximately 300 teachers engaged in high quality professional development activities and I am very impressed with their amazing dedication and desire to improve their capacity, and their knowledge levels are also adequate. I will meet them again in April and I am sure they will have made great progress on the tasks that I set for them.

I am not denying that Philippines education is struggling to maintain adequate standards nor am I defending the severe problems in the system but this is due to the overwhelming numbers that the system is trying to deal with and not due to the incredible dedication of a majority of filipino teachers. I also find that the current DepED administration is easily the most competent and hard-working group of administrators that have occupied these positions since I have been working with the agency.

Soapy Smith

03-12-16, 01:19

I am not sure why this is in the "Chat Rooms" thread but I will respond in this same place.I suspect most ISG folks are not interested in this discussion, but for those who are, I am moving it to the Philippine Politics and Economics thread.

Double Shooter

03-12-16, 22:34

Normaly I meet girls handling time well but she must have been amongst the stupidest home sapience walking this planet. Bravo. Glorious entertainment on multiple levels!

Lammtarra

03-30-16, 10:17

Mates,

I see some of you use FC. I Always used DIA and am very satisfied (80% of girls I have met from this site have climbed up to my room and spent some lovely hours there).

As DIA is free while FC is not (and I just see they charge 30 $/ month unless you subscribe for a Whole year), I wonder if maybe there is any secret tool on FC that would justify this credit card waste.

Plus, DIA covers all the area. It means sometimes you get a chance to meet some pinay in China, SG, Malaysia or Chinese, Thai, Viet girls.

Anyway, let me know why FC gets so appreciated.

Cheers!

Hutsori

03-30-16, 18:06

Anyway, let me know why FC gets so appreciated.

Cheers!1) Better quality girls, IMO.

2) Subscription-based sites eliminate most of the knuckleheads who can't or won't pay, e.g. the poor and the married who can't use a credit card for fear of the wife, yet who are demanding the girls' time and attention. A girl on FC may get fewer messages than on DIA (trust me, she still receives many), so she isn't overwhelmed by the time wasting fellas living in the Philippines, the subcontinent and elsewhere.

For no cost you may join and browse, and if you find the girls to your liking then subscribe.

Lammtarra

03-30-16, 22:49

1) Better quality girls, IMO.

2) Subscription-based sites eliminate most of the knuckleheads who can't or won't pay, e.g. the poor and the married who can't use a credit card for fear of the wife, yet who are demanding the girls' time and attention. A girl on FC may get fewer messages than on DIA (trust me, she still receives many), so she isn't overwhelmed by the time wasting fellas living in the Philippines, the subcontinent and elsewhere.

For no cost you may join and browse, and if you find the girls to your liking then subscribe.Well, in fact I tried just yesterday I registered and put a pic, just one of the ones I have on DIA too. As I was busy with job, I forgot anyway to put details like location, nationality, age, what you are looking for, etc.

Thought of doing it later but then day got busy and I just forgot. So for a night I was just a nickname and a face.

Well, today I open my mail and I find 89 messages! Plus 37 girls interested in me. This makes me think some messages could be a fake, sent by website to stimulate newcomer's appetite and force him to subscribe.

In DIA I feel lucky if overnight I get a message or two from girls I haven't contacted first and most of times if I am messaged first it is a 40 yo widow with 3 kids living in some remote village hidden in the jungle. On FC on just one night more than 50 attractive 20/22 yo girls want to meet me? Sounds weird.

Hutsori

03-31-16, 04:08

Well, today I open my mail and I find 89 messages! Plus 37 girls interested in me. This makes me think some messages could be a fake, sent by website to stimulate newcomer's appetite and force him to subscribe.

I can't speak to your fake-messages-sent-to-whet-your-appetite-and-generate-subscriptions suspicions because I'm a paid member. Most anything is possible. The only way you, as a user, can confirm your suspicions is to join and reply to the messages; if the senders ghost you then you're correct. I'm happy to pay the fee because FC has been a great and ghost-free site for me.

Lammtarra

04-01-16, 10:15

I can't speak to your fake-messages-sent-to-whet-your-appetite-and-generate-subscriptions suspicions because I'm a paid member. Most anything is possible. The only way you, as a user, can confirm your suspicions is to join and reply to the messages; if the senders ghost you then you're correct. I'm happy to pay the fee because FC has been a great and ghost-free site for me.Well, last two days more than 100 messages again: o.

I am over-mailed.

What is really curious about these messages, very few of them (lets say 5 of 100) from Metro Manila or Cebu or Davao. Most of messages come from very remote areas (Ozamiz, Gen San, Butuan, Surigao, Benguet, Bicol, Nueva Ecija, etc. Etc.). And some girls have very attractive pics, much more attractive and better taken than the ones in DIA. There is also a "bikini section" on FC.

Well, I don't know but as I never had troubles in getting good contacts in DIA and never been in lack of girls while in Phils I think I will save the 35 $ FC asks for a month Subscription.

Hutsori

04-05-16, 21:12

What is really curious about these messages, very few of them (lets say 5 of 100) from Metro Manila or Cebu or Davao. Most of messages come from very remote areas (Ozamiz, Gen San, Butuan, Surigao, Benguet, Bicol, Nueva Ecija, etc. Etc.).

Two points about location.

1) The girls from the less visited locales are more motivated to message. In my profile I state I only will meet girls who are in Metro Manila or are visiting town, such as an OFW in transit. These doesn't filter out everyone from afar, but a lot of them. No need to waste time with someone I'll never meet.

2) A lot of girls have the incorrect location. This is due to either listing their hometown for some odd reason or moving to a new city and failing to update their profile. For girls I find attractive yet too far away I write: "Thanks for sending me your message. I enjoyed reading your profile, but I'm not looking for long-distance friends. If you're ever come to Manila let me know and we'll get together. ".

Their replies will be typically one of these: a) OK, I'll do that; b) I can come visit you if you pay my transpo; c) My location is wrong. I live in Caloocan / QC / Manila. I don't know how to update my profile.

Member #4387

04-06-16, 01:25

Two points about location.

1) The girls from the less visited locales are more motivated to message. In my profile I state I only will meet girls who are in Metro Manila or are visiting town, such as an OFW in transit. These doesn't filter out everyone from afar, but a lot of them. No need to waste time with someone I'll never meet.

2) A lot of girls have the incorrect location. This is due to either listing their hometown for some odd reason or moving to a new city and failing to update their profile. For girls I find attractive yet too far away I write: "Thanks for sending me your message. I enjoyed reading your profile, but I'm not looking for long-distance friends. If you're ever come to Manila let me know and we'll get together. ".

Their replies will be typically one of these: a) OK, I'll do that; b) I can come visit you if you pay my transpo; c) My location is wrong. I live in Caloocan / QC / Manila. I don't know how to update my profile.I agree and when I used datingsites to an large extent I remember I got upset while texting and wasted loads of time to a girl just to find out Me; "we meet this Tuesday okay?" She; "huh, but I am not in Manila I live in General Santos".

This and other failiours like the above mentioned made me smarten up in both profiletext building and in pure writing texts.

Another obsticle I soon learned to deal with was the fact that very few pinays read profiles so I made the profile headline (which most see anyways) state "read my profile, Manila based girls only and no LB please". This helped a lot. After getting in touch with pinays I confirmed through the earliest msg if they actually did read my profile and if they understood it. Adding in "Where in phils are you now" also helped.

This at least helped me not to waste time on girls not beeing able or willing to meet anyways.

After building some sort of report and after I noticed that some girls started to forget who I was and what wed talked about I simply reminded the girls to read my profile and our chathistory. I don't care for the goldfish routine where I time and time again have to repeat the same things (where I am from, what I do here, how old, married or not, etc etc). Its boring and a huge waste of time.

LukeSkywalker

04-08-16, 23:05

Sammon

04-09-16, 06:15

Over 2 weeks, I collected contact info including tel # of about 30 YO good-looking girls, anxious to meet me.

Then an average-looking girl baited me that she was hungry and needed food. Being generous, I replied that I would make sure she has a lot of food. BOOM! My account was canceled the same night.

I did not read all their rules, but she was probably a moderator looking to bust people for exchanging goods for relationship. As far as I can see, I was entrapped and am totally innocent.

DIA seems very good in the Phil, getting me many contacts from attractive girls quickly. I can't complain. Another profile can be started with a new phone number for them to text the new access code.DIA accounts can be closed for many reasons. Most common is sexual talk or discussion. I doubt your account is closed because you are willing to help some girl unless you mention sexual gratification for such help. My modus operandi is to switch over contact chat to yahoo messenger or Skype. There you can discuss anything in addition to seeing her on cam. Only one time my account was cancelled because a girl who was married to a US citizen complained that I was harassing her. After marriage why this girl was still trolling in DIA is open to discussion. She initially said she is unhappy and willing to meet me in spite of married. She wanted a daytime tryst. We planned but never met in person. At the same time she started demanding many things from me. When I objected she complained. However by using another phone number I was able to open another account.

Right now planning to stay with supposedly a virgin in Cebu next month. Once I have sex with her I will know if she is real virgin or not. I made no promises and she is willing.

I have met and had fun and friendship with many young girls over the years. There are always fresh supply of new young girls. Most of them are willing to stay and fuck you. Some ask for money before meeting. In such Cases I tell them I never send money before meeting. Some ask for 2000 pesos per day and I tell them we will try for one day first and see how it goes. 2000 per day is good price for a normal girl. I have always given or slipped some money into their purse. All of them definitely need money. Do not take advantage of naive girls.

Mr Enternational

04-09-16, 06:23

Once I have sex with her I will know if she is real virgin or not.How will you know that? Many girls that I have dealt with in PI are so tight you would think they are virgins when they are not. There is one chick that I had been trying to get with for 4 years. We finally decided that we are in love with each other. Last month when it was sex time we both were crying. She was crying because it hurt because my dick was too big for her and I was crying because her pussy was much too tight for my dick. And this chick has a four year old kid.

Wicked Roger

04-09-16, 08:23

I have met and had fun and friendship with many young girls over the years. There are always fresh supply of new young girls. Most of them are willing to stay and fuck you. Some ask for money before meeting. In such Cases I tell them I never send money before meeting. Some ask for 2000 pesos per day and I tell them we will try for one day first and see how it goes. 2000 per day is good price for a normal girl. I have always given or slipped some money into their purse. All of them definitely need money. Do not take advantage of naive girls.Sound advice Sammon but one that some routinely ignore and some even boast about. If people can pay thousands of dollars to fly to the country why boast about saving $25 and treat them badly?

Sammon

04-09-16, 15:19

How will you know that? Many girls that I have dealt with in PI are so tight you would think they are virgins when they are not. There is one chick that I had been trying to get with for 4 years. We finally decided that we are in love with each other. Last month when it was sex time we both were crying. She was crying because it hurt because my dick was too big for her and I was crying because her pussy was much too tight for my dick. And this chick has a four year old kid.I had few virgins in my lifetime including some in Philippines and Thailand and China. The trick is not to look for blood after sex. You put your dick in and pull out and if you see blood right away she is a virgin. Yes, many girls cannot handle big dick and will bleed. I had this happen many times. We will see. I had one real virgin in AC also. I did not have to pay her lumpsum. I had to maintain her including school for 4 years at the cost of 5000 pesos a month. She was very good and at the same I am happy to have supported her studies. She did well and got a job in the middleast last I heard of her.

I do not take anybody, s word saying they are virgins. For many few times sex means they are still virgins.

LukeSkywalker

04-10-16, 07:14

X Man

04-10-16, 11:55

Why did she anger you and how did you reply?

There was no sexual talks. The most I said was kisses etc. Nothing overtly sexual or kinky.

I got pissed off with only 1 girl, and gave her a bunch bad names calling. SNIP .

Member #4387

04-10-16, 14:07

There was no sexual talks. The most I said was kisses etc. Nothing overtly sexual or kinky.

I got pissed off with only 1 girl, and gave her a bunch bad names calling.

Other than that I did not offend anyone, besides blocking half dozen of scary-looking old hags, trying to chat with me.

I have not read and still don't understand their rules and the mod did not give reason for shutting down my account.I guess in your case sky that some of the birds naming you in bad reported you. It seems DIA, whoever runs it, take womens side everytime. I remember a couple of years ago a girl just bcs she didn't know asked me how much I thought it cost her to travel my hotel. I replied, the gemt that I am, "probably not over 1000 pisos". After pressing send button page shut down. I have friends having huge trouble bcs it seems that if one girl reports you, even if its no bad behavior, just some sort of wrong wordings, you are shut down. How such a page survives beats me. I do agree that the worst hooker talk inside there is nice to be history. Thank you fake FB. Serves the same purpose.

WestCoast1

04-10-16, 14:34

Other than that I did not offend anyone, You are not aware of that (you are guessing). At times in the past I have had (what I thought were) innocent chats / messages back / forth (What part of Cebu do you live? How many kids to you have? Etc) with pinay, without ever suggesting to them that we switch to another chat forum (YM). Later, after not messaging the girl for a while, the girl sends an angry message to me saying she has reported me for this or that reason.

Another dating site issue with pinay: Someone other than the pinay in the picture might have made the profile for the girl, and the other person who created the profile might be answering your messages at times, while the pinay in the pic might be answering your messages at other times. When you message back / forth at different times, you are not certain of who is answering your messages (unless you are doing it in real-time, live on cam).

I have not read and still don't understand their rules and the mod did not give reason for shutting down my account. They don't necessarily notify you of the reason. DIA is a massive dating site, most everything is automated. Its quite possible a bot is the 'mod'. Your cancellation might not have anything to do with what you said to any one girl.

Nice Guy 99

04-10-16, 14:49

Sammon

04-10-16, 15:45

There was no sexual talks. The most I said was kisses etc. Nothing overtly sexual or kinky.

I got pissed off with only 1 girl, and gave her a bunch bad names calling.

Other than that I did not offend anyone, besides blocking half dozen of scary-looking old hags, trying to chat with me.

I have not read and still don't understand their rules and the mod did not give reason for shutting down my account.You are taking it too seriously. All you need to open a new account is a new email address (you can get new one free) and a phone number. Ask your friend and send that phone number. You need the activation code. Voila! You have a new account.

Only thing is you cannot access the messages or phone numbers you had on your previous account. Here on you put important phone numbers in your note pad.

Gone are the days when you can talk anything on DIA. All governments these days keep a watch on dating sites. Gone are yahoo chats and you need to be carefull of Craig's list as well. I remember the good times I had on yahoo chat here in USA meeting married and unmarried girls and going to a love motel. Have a good time and go home without any strings or any money changing hands.

As long as there are girls looking for money they will gladly provide the services. But move your chat to viber, Skype or yahoo messenger. Gone are the days when you can discuss anything on DIA including money and gratification.

Ms Account

04-11-16, 02:26

You are taking it too seriously. All you need to open a new account is a new email address (you can get new one free) and a phone number. Ask your friend and send that phone number. You need the activation code. Voila! You have a new account.DIA detects and tracks IP addresses. So even if you have a new email account and phone if you have previously logged in to your banned account from your current IP address it will close down your new account straight away. Tried to use a VPN to setup a new account. Detected it was a VPN IP address and said it didn't allow new accounts to be created using a VPN IP address. DIA detects fake photos as well and will shut down account.

I long ago gave up on DIA. We have discussed this before and I still ask if someone can explain the DIA business model. The effort they have invested in account closure compared to usability defies logic.

LukeSkywalker

04-11-16, 05:28

As a back up, the second picture in my profile, not the main one, was a credit picture of a well-known action actor.

That may be the cause if they crack down on fake pics.

FreebieFan

05-18-16, 09:37

"I'm breshney dela merced santaguel, 23 years old. Graduated as industrial engineer (2011-2015) and now I'm work as Kaizen engineer at Car auto parts manufacturing. And now I'm taking masteral degree for manufacturing technology, and part time model. Well I'm just a simple girl, I'm crazy out of control?. Sweet, caring, inloving, friendly. I'm proudly to say I am nowhere near to be perfect. Sometimes I'm so childish when I'm in relationship. I'm moody person. I can give advice. Listen to it, but never take any. No one can tell me to do anything because I won't listen. I do want I want. When I say I hate you, I mean it. I have to figure it out for myself. I love traveling and outing. If you hate me, then back off and get out of my page. I'm not born to please you. ".

I've noticed a few of these type of profiles lately. They tell the tale perhaps of a sadly spoilt kid, who had good looks and realised quite quickly that she could use her good looks to get her own way.

Sounds like a wonderful type of high maintainance lady to me. What the said gal doesn't realise is that in a few short years, her tits till succumb to gravity, and she she will be a faded star with a bad personality.

Oh well. For those who would love to see and try. She's on Pina Love. And make sure you know what Tampo means. She's probably got it, in spades.

Sammon

05-18-16, 11:27

All I can say is I have very good luck in finding girls. The trick is not to read anything they say about them selves. If you are interested send a message. Like anything else if they are interested in you they will respond. Remember all need companionship and sex. Education or job or beauty does not mean anything. As you all profile says looking for serious long term relationship only. Does not mean anything. Nobody posts available for fun only. This is not craigslist.

There is no guarantee even after chatting anything will happen for one reason or another least of it is because of her profile. On a side note ignore her age limits also.

D Cups

05-18-16, 14:07

Hi Sammon and other readers. I tend to agree with what you said. The profiles are somewhat meaningless even if they insist you read them. The dating websites and dating in general is hit and miss for me. I've been just as lucky with chance meetings as I have been with DIA and Filipino Cupid (although no longer on DIA). Having a regular harem built up over the years helps a lot. Recycle if the interest wears off or they become too needy. Still, if I was to get seriously involved with one she'd have to have a job and preferably a degree. Too much idle time is not good for anyone especially a woman who has nothing better to do than think of ways to spend your money. I have concluded, however, that even degreed and employed Filipinas will never be intellectually stimulating but that is not why we love them. We love them for their sexiness and affection. As someone who plans on retiring in the PI (probably Dumaguete area) in about six years I believe it will be equally important to have a hobby (mine is writing and music) as well as a close network of male friends to discuss politics, culture and other intellectual pursuits with. And always be open to the possibility of sexual rendezvous with one of the millions of young honies that come of age every year. My plan also includes a trip back to the USA every year (to see friends and relatives) and also the Dominican Republic (which has the biggest boobs per capita of anyplace I've seen). Cheers.

. The trick is not to read anything they say about them selves. If you are interested send a message. Like anything else if they are interested in you they will respond. Remember all need companionship and sex. Education or job or beauty does not mean anything. As you all profile says looking for serious long term relationship only. Does not mean anything. Nobody posts available for fun only. This is not craigslist.

There is no guarantee even after chatting anything will happen for one reason or another least of it is because of her profile. On a side note ignore her age limits also..

I.

X Man

05-31-16, 17:26

Suddenly, I've had three chat gals come up with the message, "I'm not ok". This is in one week. It's come fast like a virus. It reminds me of the Angeles bar girl virus of about eight years ago. The "it's my birthday tomorrow" virus. Has anyone notified the public health authorities yet?

Mr Enternational

05-31-16, 19:08

Member #4387

05-31-16, 20:29

You just have to be smart enough not to ask what is wrong.When I get a text / msg stating "I am not okay" I out of instinct just say something in the line of "and you know what my house burned down and my mom, cat and dog all died". Point is; Exaggerate to such an great extent that the pinays are getting paralyzed and whoops you never hear more regarding their problems or "not okays". At least this is my experience.

Wicked Roger

05-31-16, 21:36

When I get a text / msg stating "I am not okay" I out of instinct just say something in the line of "and you know what my house burned down and my mom, cat and dog all died". Point is; Exaggerate to such an great extent that the pinays are getting paralyzed and whoops you never hear more regarding their problems or "not okays". At least this is my experience.I generally reply "that's sad / unfortunate as I am also not okay so how about we meet and we can make each other better".

Or "if I ask you don't mention cash / money as if you do means you are OK".

If they sick I always recommend a special protein shake.

All this tends to weed out those who love money more than you (which according the What the Face is most / all of us apart from CaliPro / THB LOL) - and me of course LOL.

Member #4387

06-01-16, 01:26

I generally reply "that's sad / unfortunate as I am also not okay so how about we meet and we can make each other better". I take a note from this and I might actually use it to make problems work to my benefits Maybe I've, like X man, hit a bad nerve in my FB cuties lately. Surprisingly not to many girls claiming "problems" but far to many asking this stupid "can I have a favor" or "could I ask you a question"(they actually ask a question to ask if they can ask a question). Technically those two questions will cover also "I have a problem" but in a different wrapping. These girls I just ditch as both questions will be about money (my experience), so I handle them basically as money requests.

Sounds maybe coldhearted but remember I donate to salvation army and red cross every year. I will for sure not help someone I have known for 2 minutes asking "can I have a favor"?

And speaking of problems; why cant someone help out this sad girl, https://www.pinalove.com/rose89

PolyOrchid

06-01-16, 01:32

and me of course LOL.Your endless kindness warms even my cold heart, WR. God love ya!

Amavida

06-01-16, 13:43

As a back up, the second picture in my profile, not the main one, was a credit picture of a well-known action actor.

That may be the cause if they crack down on fake pics.Had a lot of pussy from DIA.

Yes there is a lot of code running on it policing behavior.

Girls are affected just as much.

Veterans cast their net & if they get a bite, take it off site immediately.

Turning the tables on DIA I favor setting up a fresh account, milk it then ditch it & set up another when I'm ready.

A bland 'new' account is all you need, the fun girls are waiting.

Keeping a profile on there long term is counter productive.

Keep it fresh.

AV.

Member #4387

06-04-16, 04:29

If there are any good samaritans out there?? Want to adopt a child. Wonder if she gets some money.

X Man

06-05-16, 15:44

Why counter-productive? I can't think of any good reason to close an account just to set up a new account. Like any SNS site you can keep it "fresh" by changing pictures or your profile message.

The only thing I can agree with here is that it's wise to get necessary contact information sooner rather than later. Gals forget their passwords or get busy with other things, or get shut down for some infraction.

I've got over 500 gals in my inbox, and that's after deleting hundreds of others who were unsatisfactory for one reason or another. I think I'd shed a few tears if I lost all those contacts / pics / info.

Had a lot of pussy from DIA.

Yes there is a lot of code running on it policing behavior.

Girls are affected just as much.

Veterans cast their net & if they get a bite, take it off site immediately.

Turning the tables on DIA I favor setting up a fresh account, milk it then ditch it & set up another when I'm ready.

A bland 'new' account is all you need, the fun girls are waiting.

Keeping a profile on there long term is counter productive.

Keep it fresh.

AV.

X Man

06-18-16, 09:42

I was looking forward to a reply to my previous post. Why would one want to delete an account and then start a new one (reset)? Since I visit the Philippines roughly two times a year, I want to keep the contact list and message history. This give me a record of the gals I met and the gals I still want to meet.

Some of the gals occasionally hit the reset, but often they say, "I'm back, blah, blah". On some of the sites, you could come up as "new member". This could cause a shark feeding frenzy. Which has pros and cons.

Some of you have different schedules and different goals, so maybe hitting reset makes sense.

DIA used to put your start date on your profile, and PinayLove still does. With DIA I had a few ladies who would ask why I've been there so long. If you are GF / wife hunting or just want that perfect GFE, it might have made sense to disguise your history (out of desperation or duplication). DIA doesn't do this now.

BTW, DIA used to kick back a third post if it was too much like the first. Cut and paste apparently wasn't kosher. This policy has been relaxed.

Sammon

06-18-16, 12:26

Me- Hi.

Her- Hellow, How are you.

Me- Good, Will be visiting. Want to be with Me.

Her- Yes, What are you looking for.

Me- Company and fun.

Her- I am looking for serious relationship and marriage only.

Me- Really? Have you had a BF before?

Her- Yes.

Me- How long.

Her- one year.

Me- Did he marry you.

Her- No.

Me- Did you have sex with him.

Her- Yes.

Me- So you know Marriage is not guaranteed, right?

Her- Yes.

Me- So you want to stay with me?

Her- Yes.

Me- including Fun.

Her- Yes.

Me- No marriage.

Her- I understand.

Met her and had fun. This girl is from Cebu, Young 19 year old pretty with nice boobs. Plan to meet her again next time. She is working in a tourist store.

This is generally what happens in dating sites.

Mr Enternational

06-18-16, 14:44

I was looking forward to a reply to my previous post. Why would one want to delete an account and then start a new one (reset)? No idea. I have had the same cell phone number for 16 years and the same email for 20 years. I notice it is a female trait to always want a "fresh start". You can't run from yourself though.

Great story Sammon. It just goes to show that you have to know how to talk to people / have game. Most guys would have just said fuck it.

X Man

06-19-16, 11:44

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that Sammon has done a lot of paraphrasing here in order to make a point. It's the one word answers and non-answers that drive me up the wall.

Recent question I asked, "Where in Manila do you live?

Reply, "Yes, I live in Manila. ".

Me- Hi.

Her- Hellow, How are you.

Me- Good, Will be visiting. Want to be with Me.

Her- Yes, What are you looking for.

Me- Company and fun.

Her- I am looking for serious relationship and marriage only.

Me- Really? Have you had a BF before?

Her- Yes.

Me- How long.

Her- one year.

Me- Did he marry you.

Her- No.

Me- Did you have sex with him.

Her- Yes.

Me- So you know Marriage is not guaranteed, right?

Her- Yes.

Me- So you want to stay with me?

Her- Yes.

Me- including Fun.

Her- Yes.

Me- No marriage.

Her- I understand.

Met her and had fun. This girl is from Cebu, Young 19 year old pretty with nice boobs. Plan to meet her again next time. She is working in a tourist store.

This is generally what happens in dating sites.

Sammon

06-19-16, 12:09

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that Sammon has done a lot of paraphrasing here in order to make a point. It's the one word answers and non-answers that drive me up the wall.

Recent question I asked, "Where in Manila do you live?

Reply, "Yes, I live in Manila. ".I understand your frustration. Chatting with girls is not easy. If it is a new girl she does not know you and her answers will be short. Besides she does not know if she will ever meet you. If it is a previous girl there will be more to talk about. But in general I do not want lengthy conversations. Talk more, you get into trouble. Then the girl thinks you really loves her and there will be more demands. Besides education level is low to have a intelligent discussion like with western girls.

BrainDrain

06-20-16, 10:40

X Man

06-22-16, 00:42

Yes, I experienced the same thing. The worst experience I had was a woman who said she was wearing "black dress". She was wearing black clothing, but certainly not a dress.

SNIP Her version of location was taken from what she could see in the distance, rather than the f,ing store that she was standing in front of.

D Cups

06-22-16, 14:23

Hahahahah. I read somewhere (source unverified) the average PI IQ is 85. Still, we love the Pinays for their sweetness and tiny twats. As for intellectual banter either dumb it down with lots of San Miguel or find a Westerner who's not completely soused.

N. Her version of location was taken from what she could see in the distance, rather than the f,ing store that she was standing in front of..

X Man

07-05-16, 06:46

I read somewhere (source unverified) that the average IQ of people who have nicknamed themselves with one letter (D or X for example) is 85. This assessment may be incorrect since it's hard to do an IQ test when the examinee is completely soused.

Hahahahah. I read somewhere (source unverified) the average PI IQ is 85. Still, we love the Pinays for their sweetness and tiny twats. As for intellectual banter either dumb it down with lots of San Miguel or find a Westerner who's not completely soused.

.

X Man

07-05-16, 08:08

Found an attractive lady on one of the sites. She has an exceptional cleavage. I suspected some enhancement, but was very curious. The number of selfies wasn't unusual, but most featured the cleavage. Well, maybe she recognized that as her charm point. Cam girl? I start a little chat with her and she seems friendly and articulate. She reveals a bit more regarding her name and I quickly find her FB (without asking). Mostly the same pictures, but a few that got me thinking. Um, that is a mannish look.

I check out one of her Western admirer's FB sites, thinking there will be plenty of eye candy in his friend section. Ouch, he's got 100+ ladyboy friends. Some of them obvious and some of them not so obvious.

Gentleman, be careful what you find out there. X.

Da Monger

07-11-16, 01:42

Member #4643

07-11-16, 21:24

I read somewhere (source unverified) that the average IQ of people who have nicknamed themselves with one letter (D or X for example) is 85. This assessment may be incorrect since it's hard to do an IQ test when the examinee is completely soused.As far as I am concerned, any woman who agrees to have sex with me has an IQ of at least 150. Bbbjtcim = Einstein.

D Cups

07-11-16, 21:32

Forest, you are completely soused. Must be that 150 proof you are downing.

As far as I am concerned, any woman who agrees to have sex with me has an IQ of at least 150. Bbbjtcim = Einstein..

Member #4643

07-11-16, 22:45

Forest, you are completely soused. Must be that 150 proof you are downing.

.Not so. Its a matter of definition. A good blow job speaks to an innate intelligence. And combined with a few other talents, is an Einstrein like experience.

On the other hand, a PhD who gives a toothy BJ and fails to make me happy is no brainiac. This is a working definition of sexual intelligence.

D Cups

07-12-16, 00:08

This is even more illogical than Mr E's and X Man's logic. Are you sure you're not drunk? Geez. Sexual ability has nothing to do with IQ which has little to do with level of education. I've met some really dumb broads that gave great blow jobs.

Not so. Its a matter of definition. A good blow job speaks to an innate intelligence. And combined with a few other talents, is an Einstrein like experience.

On the other hand, a PhD who gives a toothy BJ and fails to make me happy is no brainiac. This is a working definition of sexual intelligence..

Sammon

07-12-16, 10:59

Red Kilt

07-12-16, 13:34

I just decided to reopen one of my dating site memberships (but without a photo) and quickly got a message from a cute but more mature woman (36 yo).

I replied and suggested that I would share my photo on email if she sent me her email address. I gave her a "gmail" address that I use for the purpose.

Back came the reply that she didn't have a gmail but only had a Skype address. I gently replied that she must have an email address to be a dating site member and to be on Skype, so she should use that email address, whether it was hotmail or Yahoo or whatever.

She replied that she was trying to add me to her yahoo account but Yahoo won't let her do it. I then asked her to just give me her Yahoo address and I will write to her but so far it's been too difficult for her to work out the technicalities.

She's probably not worth pursuing.

X Man

07-12-16, 14:42

RK, you've been a great contributor, and a class act. Nevertheless, some of these gals are at Net Cafes. They have to come up with passwords more often in those situations. Many of us have computers automatically giving passwords and we don't have to think at all. Not to say that I ever think.

Did you ask for her FB? I usually try to guess the FB from the name and email (if provided). I don't use Skype very much, but why does that inhibit you?

I just decided to reopen one of my dating site memberships (but without a photo) and quickly got a message from a cute but more mature woman (36 yo).

I replied and suggested that I would share my photo on email if she sent me her email address. I gave her a "gmail" address that I use for the purpose.

Back came the reply that she didn't have a gmail but only had a Skype address. I gently replied that she must have an email address to be a dating site member and to be on Skype, so she should use that email address, whether it was hotmail or Yahoo or whatever.

She replied that she was trying to add me to her yahoo account but Yahoo won't let her do it. I then asked her to just give me her Yahoo address and I will write to her but so far it's been too difficult for her to work out the technicalities.

She's probably not worth pursuing.

Mr Enternational

07-12-16, 14:55

Did you ask for her FB? I usually try to guess the FB from the name and email (if provided). I don't use Skype very much, but why does that inhibit you?He is saying that he can't send his pictures to her because she does not know her own email address. Do people even still use email to send pictures? It's 2016 RK. Get out of the stone age and get Whatsapp, or Line, or Viber, or something!

Dg8787

07-12-16, 15:41

I have yet to meet a filipina who uses email. I have met plenty who's knows you need an email to set up FB and have forgotten their email address and or password. That is the reason many have several FB accounts, they have forgotten the password. You can see it by the years of their FB pages.

I have helped some set up email to download apps on their cell phones and they have no clue what an email account is. Most have forgotten their email address and or password.

Best to use Viber.

X Man

07-12-16, 16:03

I know you're dying to see my pics Mr. E. Just send me your email address. And what is this app called "something" . I haven't tried that one yet.

He is saying that he can't send his pictures to her because she does not know her own email address. Do people even still use email to send pictures? It's 2016 RK. Get out of the stone age and get Whatsapp, or Line, or Viber, or something!

X Man

07-12-16, 16:10

This has to be one of the most interesting reports I've ever read. "most have forgotten their email" but "I have yet to meet a filipina who uses email".

I have yet to meet a filipina who uses email. I have met plenty who's knows you need an email to set up FB and have forgotten their email address and or password. That is the reason many have several FB accounts, they have forgotten the password. You can see it by the years of their FB pages.

I have helped some set up email to download apps on their cell phones and they have no clue what an email account is. Most have forgotten their email address and or password.

Best to use Viber.

X Man

07-12-16, 16:16

I might have to revaluate. The Mr. D and forest might have to double team in order to make the 85 IQ.

This is even more illogical than Mr E's and X Man's logic. Are you sure you're not drunk? Geez. Sexual ability has nothing to do with IQ which has little to do with level of education. I've met some really dumb broads that gave great blow jobs.

.

D Cups

07-12-16, 16:30

Don't put me in with Forest, X, but if you want to team up with him and Mr. E I'm sure the three of you could stooge up to the double digits if you tried.

I might have to revaluate. The Mr. D and forest might have to double team in order to make the 85 IQ..

D Cups

07-12-16, 16:31

I email with my Filipina gfs all the time.

This has to be one of the most interesting reports I've ever read. "most have forgotten their email" but "I have yet to meet a filipina who uses email"..

Wicked Roger

07-12-16, 23:26

As far as I am concerned, any woman who agrees to have sex with me has an IQ of at least 150. Bbbjtcim = Einstein.I must know an awful lot of geniuses LOL.

Red Kilt

07-13-16, 02:16

He is saying that he can't send his pictures to her because she does not know her own email address. Do people even still use email to send pictures? It's 2016 RK. Get out of the stone age and get Whatsapp, or Line, or Viber, or something!You're right in your analysis Mr E. She has finally worked it out though AND remembered her password.

Just an explanation of my "stone-age" mentality mate.

I am well aware of the apps you mentioned and choose not to use them any more with filipinas because they just bombard you with rubbish once they know who you are.

I also choose to keep my skype for business calls. I got tired of having my business calls interrupted by "Hi. Have you eaten yet?" etc etc.

Finally, still by way of explanation, I need to be discreet online, so that in itself should explain everything to you and the XMan.

Hutsori

07-13-16, 07:31

Planning on my first trip to asia (phillipines). RTFF and Tried to sign up for DIA from India and get a message saying not available in this country. Anyone else run into this?

I checked the FAQ and nothing mentioned about restricted countries. There are a total of 8 male members from India who are DIA members. I guess the admin decided it was enough.

Janboi

07-13-16, 17:48

What would you say in your DIA profile?

BrainDrain

07-13-16, 21:02

He is saying that he can't send his pictures to her because she does not know her own email address. Do people even still use email to send pictures? It's 2016 RK. Get out of the stone age and get Whatsapp, or Line, or Viber, or something!The issue I have with Whatsapp and Viber is that I cannot sign-out and use an alternate account. They are always logged in.

WeChat does allow logout and lets me have two account on my phone. One account for work and one account for Filipina contacts.

BD.

Mr Enternational

07-13-16, 22:14

What would you say in your DIA profile?Why do you need to say anything? Nobody reads that stuff.

Amanut

07-14-16, 00:42

What would you say in your DIA profile?There is a thread on the main page titled Date In Asia. It has lots of good information in it. There is also lots in general information thread. Too bad you didn't pay for a membership so I could PM you some additional info.

Member #4566

07-14-16, 05:34

There is a thread on the main page titled Date In Asia. It has lots of good information in it. There is also lots in general information thread. Too bad you didn't pay for a membership so I could PM you some additional info.Couldn't you post it on the board for everyone's benefit? Or is there something personal about what you might put on a profile for a public dating site?

X Man

07-14-16, 16:42

Why would you ask such a question? You should write about you and what you want. A week / month later you might want to edit.

If you like chubby, older women, you should definitely write that. Your computer might explode within the next five minutes. If you type that you will be there next week, unplug the computer quickly.

No one can tell you the perfect profile info, and even if they did, it's you Janboi who has to communicate with the replies from the opposite gender. Good luck sir.

What would you say in your DIA profile?

Amanut

07-14-16, 16:59

Couldn't you post it on the board for everyone's benefit? Or is there something personal about what you might put on a profile for a public dating site?Not at all. I suggest taking a look at some other men's profiles. Perhaps take some cues from them and adapt from there to suit what you are looking for. Be careful. They have rules there and are quick to punt members who break those rules. DIA can be a gold mine or a mine field.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3575-Date-In-Asia

Roll Aides

07-14-16, 19:55

You're right in your analysis Mr E. She has finally worked it out though AND remembered her password.

Just an explanation of my "stone-age" mentality mate.

I am well aware of the apps you mentioned and choose not to use them any more with filipinas because they just bombard you with rubbish once they know who you are.

I also choose to keep my skype for business calls. I got tired of having my business calls interrupted by "Hi. Have you eaten yet?" etc etc.

Finally, still by way of explanation, I need to be discreet online, so that in itself should explain everything to you and the XMan.

Actually, this sounds like a pretty good M.O. to me. Think I'm going to give it a try. Thanks, RK.

Amavida

08-02-16, 02:10

WestCoast1

08-02-16, 03:50

My advice is if you can't post a pic of yourself then don't go on dating sites. Remember the disappointment of contacting that hot chick who turned out to be a fake / scammer?
AV.I have not used a dating site for a while now. I've been fortunate, and my regulars have been into the referral game for a while. However, when I did have a dating profile, I never posted a picture (not even a fake). I never carried on conversation within the dating site, I moved it to YM as soon as possible, by saying that I was interested in cam-2-cam conversation ONLY. I made it a rule to refuse to meet with anyone who did not cam first (pics alone are worthless). Never give info in your dating profile that identifies you personally.

For a long time I used the fake name "Bob" when meeting new dating site girls. Even after several meetings over many months, they still thought I was Bob. Then I was having drinks with a mate here, we got tipsy, and we were joking as to what our top-secret government code names might be if we were spies. I chose "Peter" and "Dick", as they represent one of my fav things. We got a kick out of that. For fun, I changed my fake dating site name to "Peter" for a while. Recently I was walking along Pedro Gil towards Robinson's Malate in the morning. I heard someone yelling "Bob! Bob!" Nah, couldn't be. Across the street by Eurotel was a street urchin that I'd had several years ago (took her up in Eurotel, right there where she was standing). She was waving. I waved back. Wanted to say: My old fake name was Bob, hun. New fake name became Peter. You could call me by my other fake name Westy. I will never tell you me real name Xxxx. Best that I turn around and walk away now, as I'm meeting a mate for coffee. Bye (whoever you are)! And I turned and walked away. I later found her pics, from? 3 years ago. She remembered my (fake) name for 3 years.

Never give your real info till you know and trust the girl.

Amavida

08-02-16, 04:18

Why do you need to say anything? Nobody reads that stuff.Correct. In my experience the women write drivel that tells you nothing & they demonstrably do not read (or remember) anything you wrote. The trick of all of these dating sites is to be *new! Make small edits that keep your profile appearing at the top of the first page. Its a numbers game, don't obsess over women on there. If you get a bite move the conversation off site to a safe platform immediately. Ask to see them on cam. If they don't co-operate drop them & move on to the next. Sometimes they will come good later but leave it to them & keep hunting others in the mean time. Don't peak too early. 2-3 weeks before arriving is enough time to start looking. They quickly lose interest if you drag it out for months. Be organised, have a system to keep notes on who is who, so many, so little time. .

AV.

Mr Enternational

08-02-16, 04:38

Never give your real info till you know and trust the girl.Chick at the hotel desk in Angeles the week before last kept calling me by my real name. (Even though I booked with my Asia name, they actually looked this time when they copied my passport.) I would cringe every time. The other chick at the desk corrected her with my Asia name. She said but here it says (real name). The other chick was smart enough to explain to her about the usage of fake names.

Dg8787

08-02-16, 05:36

Dg8787

08-02-16, 05:37

FreebieFan

08-02-16, 07:41

. For fun, I changed my fake dating site name to "Peter" for a while. Recently I was walking along Pedro Gil towards Robinson's Malate in the morning. I heard someone yelling "Bob! Bob!" Nah, couldn't be. Across the street by Eurotel was a street urchin that I'd had several years ago (took her up in Eurotel, right there where she was standing). She was waving. I waved back. Wanted to say: My old fake name was Bob, hun. New fake name became Peter. You could call me by my other fake name Westy. I will never tell you me real name Xxxx.. I later found her pics, from? 3 years ago. She remembered my (fake) name for 3 years.

Never give your real info till you know and trust the girl.Funny story. I've been aka Harry for many years. And back in the day when I lived in Makati, I took a visiting guy with me on a walk through P Burgos.

In many of the places we visited there was a " Hello Harry, nice to see you again Harry. How are you Harry. Etc. .

The guy I was with as quite baffled and gave me the serious face and said " But your real name is xxyyzz ". I said " not in here its not ". You could his brain analysing this and eventually he said, having seen the penny drop " Ah so you don't use your real name here. ".

Fast forward a year or two and was in Orchard Towers in SG. Stood in a bar and lady came up and said " Hi Harry". Without even asking her, I knew where she had been working.

Mr Enternational

08-02-16, 09:03

Posters here expect girls to be telling them the truth and to be honest with them. Why do you need to use a fake name and info and lie at times?

BTW, I don't use dating sites. I prefer pnp and have never use a fake name or story or lie and have never had a problem.But if you do ever have a problem then you will not be hard to find. I am from the streets. When you are in the streets doing street shit you always use an alias. Mongering is street shit. Why didn't you just use your government name for your handle on ISG?

You must forget that many people here also have significant others who are not as accepting of their hobby as yours may be. So the last thing they need is some hooker being able to track them down because they were so honest.

Who really gives a fuck if a hooker is being honest? As long as the transaction goes smoothly (no diseases, doesn't try to rip me off) I could care less what lies she tells. I am there to fuck, not marry her. Now of course there is a different approach when looking for a genuine relationship.

WestCoast1

08-02-16, 14:12

Posters here expect girls to be telling them the truth and to be honest with them. Why do you need to use a fake name and info and lie at times?

You must forget that many people here also have significant others who are not as accepting of their hobby as yours may be. So the last thing they need is some hooker being able to track them down because they were so honest.Bingo. Respectfully, Dg, that's a failure to understand the (mongering) clientele. The many mongers on this board are from varied backgrounds. If you are single, retired, no significant other, don't have a sensitive job, and don't give a rat's ass about who finds out what you are doing, then you can show your face on a dating site, or tell everyone your real name. However, many of us don't fall into that category.

Who really gives a fuck if a hooker is being honest? As long as the transaction goes smoothly (no diseases, doesn't try to rip me off) I could care less what lies she tells. I am there to fuck, not marry her. Now of course there is a different approach when looking for a genuine relationship. I think that analysis, too, is too simple. Dividing pinay up into hookers and those for genuine relationships misses a large chunk of girls that the varied mongers deal with. For instance, I have fairly good, long-running relationships with a number of pinay (both city and provincial), for years. I would have difficulty putting them into one or the other category you mentioned. Alternately, maybe they fall into both categories. They are aware that I have no plan to marry them, that I have multiple girls. Notice in the PG my many 3 & 4-somes. I also "help them my situation". While they all accept my pesos (or groceries, pampers, and sanitary napkins for their family), many of them are also in other relationships with their pinoy ("my heart beat to Terrance") or they are actively looking for a foreign prince to take them away.

When I take a girl from LAC or Burgos, I don't expect any honesty. When I visit with my regulars (or they bus in to visit me), since we've been together for some years and have gotten to know each other's personalities, I expect (a greater degree of) honesty.

Dg8787

08-02-16, 17:58

My post was referring to posters who are on dating sites complaining about girls lying and with fake names when posters are doing the same.

Possibly if we can have a master post complaining about everything from the price of a drink, lady drinks, bar fines, over tipping, lousy food, Koreans snatching up all the lookers and on and on and on and on, we can save some reading time.

Amavida

08-03-16, 01:23

I think that analysis, too, is too simple. Dividing pinay up into hookers and those for genuine relationships misses a large chunk of girls that the varied mongers deal with.New people, note well. There is a lot more hustle out there these day's but you still need a little tact. As long as you don't rub their noses in it many will happily exchange 'companionship' for 'help'. Be subtle if not sure but just make it clear if you're not available to be an alimony victim.

AV.

Ms Account

08-03-16, 08:31

I think that analysis, too, is too simple. Dividing pinay up into hookers and those for genuine relationships misses a large chunk of girls that the varied mongers deal with. .Westie's comment (which I fully agree with) has prompted me to express that sometimes I get frustrated with FR's that make it look all to easy. A newbie would think all you have to do is throw out some messages on facebook or dating websites, get them to turn up to your hotel and out they go with a few blue notes in hand after a few hours. I am not saying some FR's are fictional here. But I think they are like US Corporate earnings reports. All the good stuff with the bad stuff taken out.

I think I have enough experience under the belt now to have a useful opinion. I have used facebook and multiple dating websites extensively since 2013. Being a bit analytical, I propose I encounter 5 types of girls:

(1) "not unless you marry me" = want to know you via chats for months, want to meet you at the airport when you arrive as she must be the only one you meet, after multiple visits you might get action but you will have to fib about your long term intentions.

(2) "play hard to get" = ultimately looking for some form of support although maybe too shy or discrete to ask. Will take multiple "dates" to get anywhere and only then if they think there is an opportunity for an ongoing relationship expecting financial support.

(3) "up to you" = will be lead by you and are the best prospects for scoring on first meeting with no expectation to meet again. Either truly liberated open minded or more likely naive shy who don't have the confidence or think that the only way they can keep you is give you what you want.

(4) "show me the money" = I don't encounter a lot of true "hardcore pros". More pragmatic minded who just are more confident to say what they exactly expect knowing that you are not a long term prospect.

(5) "scammers and other undesirables" = they have no intention to meet or they will meet with no intention to take it any further but keep pestering you for some help sold to you as a carrot for future benefits down the road. I also throw in the ladyboys into this category who most are open about it but some will conceal until the very end.

I propose that three factors influence what each mongers experience will be (1) who you are. If you are Brad Pitt you will get a lot of "up to you". (2) who you target. If you trying to hit on young stunning girls (which is my main focus) then it is never "up to you". If you target over 30's then more will be "up to you". (3) What you tell them. If you lie and say you will marry them then your opportunities open up. If you are honest then you get more "play hard to gets" and "show me the money".

In my case I am an average looking middle aged westerner targeting 18-25 very attractive girls telling them the truth upfront (to not waste their time or my time) that I only offer an ongoing GF with supportive allowance or gift per meeting. I don't tend to encounter a lot of "up to you" maybe because I am clear upfront what I offer / expect. The true beauty of the Philippines is the "play hard to get". Philippines is the GFE capital. There are better places for P4 P IMHO. There is low hanging fruit (the up to you's) but not as easy as it is made out here in many FR's.

Mr Enternational

08-03-16, 09:45

Westie's comment (which I fully agree with) has prompted me to express that sometimes I get frustrated with FR's that make it look all to easy. A newbie would think all you have to do is throw out some messages on facebook or dating websites, get them to turn up to your hotel and out they go with a few blue notes in hand after a few hours.It IS fucking easy. The only other place that it may be easier to get some pussy other than the Philippines is the Dominican Republic. There you can literally be driving down the street, see a chick on the side who is looking for a ride, pick her up, and go to a motel to fuck her before taking her to where she was going.

But I must say that I think there is only 1 chick that I have met online in the Philippines that I didn't end up fucking (9 times out of 10 for free). That was a chick in Dumaguette. And even she was going to send her cousin back to give me some pussy. Not sure what ended up happening with that.

I even woke up once in Manila with a message on some dating site of a chick saying since you are close by I want to come fuck for 1000 pesos. Chick I had never talked to in my life. After I responded to the message the chick was at my hotel in 10 minutes flat.

I am usually not even forward and do not intend on fucking. I just try to meet for curiosity sake and becoming friends. But always end up fucking.

2 weeks ago in AC I finally decided to be forward and see what would happen. And this is one category you guys left off. This was in the first minute of writing to this chick. The chick said if I come see you what are we going to do. I said fuck. She went into a big thing on how she is not a hooker but ended up asking how much would I give. I said 500 pesos. She said no, but she would for $100. She went back to saying how she is not a hooker. I said well my final offer is 1000 pesos. If you decide that you need that within a certain amount of time then you know how to contact me. (The conversation got out of order when I uploaded it, but you can figure it out.)

BrainDrain

08-03-16, 10:14

Have to agree with Mr Enternational.

Last visit in AC met a call center girl greed to meet at Margarita Station as I do like to have a sanity check before they hit the apartment. SHe was good to go, back to the apartment and into the sack.

Invited her again a few days later, same same without the need for the interview.

Regular girl, appears to have a BF on her other FB profile, no money exchanged.

She ready and on standby for the next trip.

Can't wait to get back there in the next month.

BD.

Ms Account

08-03-16, 12:47

It IS fucking easy....But I must say that I think there is only 1 chick that I have met online in the Philippines that I didn't end up fucking (9 times out of 10 for free).
I am usually not even forward and do not intend on fucking. I just try to meet for curiosity sake and becoming friends. But always end up fucking.We are fishing in different ponds. Young attractive girls are getting flooded with contact emails. In a generalised sense, they know their worth. The chance they are going to meet a foreigner and have sex on a first date for free is zero. I am not knocking your choice of fish you catch and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But why would I travel all that way just to do a 30+ year old with a few spare tyres.

Mr Enternational

08-03-16, 13:37

We are fishing in different ponds. Young attractive girls are getting flooded with contact emails. In a generalised sense, they know their worth. The chance they are going to meet a foreigner and have sex on a first date for free is zero. I am not knocking your choice of fish you catch and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But why would I travel all that way just to do a 30+ year old with a few spare tyres.Bullshit. You are putting the pussy on a pedastal. They know their worth? Please dude. What woman do you know that walks around thinking they are all that? They constantly look for someone to tell them they are all that and then they still won't admit to feeling like they are. Sure if you approach them all needy and thirsty then you are not going to get any play because women do not like weak men. Get some confidence about yourself. My attitude is that I can fuck anybody; why do I need to fuck you?

All women are used to guys hitting on them because they have had to endure that since puberty. And ALL WOMEN ARE BEING FLOODED WITH CONTACT EMAILS. It has nothing to do with age or beauty. It is nothing new. Now if you are 60 and looking for a 20 year old then that old adage holds: If you ain't doing it back home, then you ain't going to another country doing it. No 20 year old genuinely wants a man her grandfather's age. I am 44, so I am still in the house. In another 10 or 15 years maybe I will be one saying how good it used to be but now there are so many runners and chicks that won't barfine.

Maybe you are trying to fish in a pond that you don't belong at. And who said a woman who is 30 has to have a few spare tires? There are plenty of ugly 20 year olds with spare tires and plenty of beautiful 30 year olds without spare tires. Maybe you are looking for someone solely on the basis of age, which is pretty asinine and kind of creepy. (I fucked enough teenagers when I was in high school and university.) This is my girlfriend in Cebu. 30 years old, no kids, own house, own money, and no spare tires!

*Maybe the chances they are going to meet YOU and have sex on the first date for free are zero. But there are plenty of testimonials of people who have had that as their least problem.

Ms Account

08-03-16, 15:49

Now if you are 60 and looking for a 20 year old then that old adage holds: If you ain't doing it back home, then you ain't going to another country doing it. No 20 year old genuinely wants a man her grandfather's age. I am 44, so I am still in the house. In another 10 or 15 years maybe I will be one saying how good it used to be but now there are so many runners and chicks that won't barfine. Maybe you are trying to fish in a pond that you don't belong at.A 44 yo and a 30 yo is a date. A 60 yo and a 20 yo is an economic arrangement (which you seem to be very derogatory against). You are not probably the average punter (that is a compliment not a criticism). The average punter on this board would be 50-70 looking for something that they can't find (and / or can't afford) at home. That is exactly why they fish in the Philippines because they can belong at the pond they have no chance of ever doing at home. It also has nothing to do with a lack of confidence or women don't like weak men. Given who I am and who I seek and what I offer. I am just wasting my time trying to hit upon girls on first dates for free. To not waste my time and to not mislead them, they know exactly what I offer before we meet.

Member #4558

08-03-16, 16:03

We are fishing in different ponds. Young attractive girls are getting flooded with contact emails. In a generalised sense, they know their worth. The chance they are going to meet a foreigner and have sex on a first date for free is zero. I am not knocking your choice of fish you catch and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But why would I travel all that way just to do a 30+ year old with a few spare tyres.Don't know which pound you are fishing in but 18-25 yo student girls, a few Hi so girls / well traveled / educated, some older of course but in today's Phil with this segment of girls you meet more and more girls (I call them city-girls) finishing up their carrieers, start working, owns their own condo, car (s) etc and then they start thinking about family planning. Maybe they don't want to have sex with you for free on first dates but I have no problem receiving that pukie even if its owned by a girl you describe. Many girls are bored to death and when a nice bloke comes around she can be willing. Lets say I evict any uncertencies in pre-communication (fb) and only meet girls I know I can bed. Its all about joining the correct circles. In this segment game counts. Most likely they will only meet you away from public places but that's fine as I only want to meet them in my condo anyways. I am a tad younger than Mr E by the way but I high five his statement regarding if you do okay with girls in your home-country you will do fine in Phils as well. I would be very interested in seeing what kind of girls you consider to be from your exclusive fishing pound. Don't let the fact this is my first post delude you to think I am a nube to Phils and its ladies. I could have been a ISG member from before.

Mr Enternational

08-03-16, 17:37

A 44 yo and a 30 yo is a date. A 60 yo and a 20 yo is an economic arrangement (which you seem to be very derogatory against). You are not probably the average punter (that is a compliment not a criticism). The average punter on this board would be 50-70 looking for something that they can't find (and / or can't afford) at home. That is exactly why they fish in the Philippines because they can belong at the pond they have no chance of ever doing at home.I get what you are saying. I am always mixing the two. Even trying to make an argument in my last post I was intertwining both scenarios. I usually date a lot of normal chicks. Then if I have time I will fit in a few paid arrangements. I have a normal girlfriend (it took 4 years for her to even go out with me) in Angeles, but she has to go home around 10 or 11 pm. After that you can find me in High Society looking for an economic arrangement (which I am not derrogatory against at all. My dad is 65 and comes on trips with me and he likes the 20 year olds too.).

Wolvenvacht

08-03-16, 18:40

The chance they are going to meet a foreigner and have sex on a first date for free is zero.We are not finshing in different ponds, we seem to be in different worlds!

All my encounters with Date-In-Asia and ThaiFriendly girls resulted in sex on the first date without money changing hands. Of course, I paid for the dinner and entertainment, but nothing I would not have done on a "normal" date with a western woman.

And I am 50+, so it is not because I'm young and handsome and rich.

X Man

08-03-16, 23:02

Mr. E, you should write a poontagn self help book! And thanks for the pic.

Looking at the comment below reminded me of a great line. Gal tells you she only wants friends. Reply, "I already have friends, I need a lover".

SNIP Get some confidence about yourself. My attitude is that I can fuck anybody; why do I need to fuck you?

SNIP

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Member #4643

08-03-16, 23:43

We are not finshing in different ponds, we seem to be in different worlds!

All my encounters with Date-In-Asia and ThaiFriendly girls resulted in sex on the first date without money changing hands. Of course, I paid for the dinner and entertainment, but nothing I would not have done on a "normal" date with a western woman.

And I am 50+, so it is not because I'm young and handsome and rich.I have always told the girl that I wanted to have sex before making the date. I usually paid them as well, even when it was not requested (which was 3/4 of the time).

I am curious Wolvenvacht- do you screen for girls who say they want to have sex?

Mr Enternational

08-04-16, 05:42

Looking at the comment below reminded me of a great line. Gal tells you she only wants friends. Reply, "I already have friends, I need a lover".I went to my friend's wedding in the Dominican Republic in April. The morning before going to the city that the wedding was in I met this chick online to take with me. 23 years old, no kids, masters degree (although not equal to the masters in our country) and had never met anyone online before. She came to my hotel all nervous and we drove to the city where the wedding was.

As soon as we got to the rented condo we fucked. After that we went to get dinner. While we were eating, I kept calling her my lover. I think I even told the waiter that she was my lover. She finally said no it is not good to say lover; I am your friend. I said well friends don't eat shrimp. She said what do they eat. I said whatever they pay for. Needless to say, we are still lovers to this day.

Wolvenvacht

08-04-16, 06:49

I have always told the girl that I wanted to have sex before making the date. I usually paid them as well, even when it was not requested (which was 3/4 of the time).

I am curious Wolvenvacht- do you screen for girls who say they want to have sex?No, not at all.

Most of them actually contacted me first and I cannot remember we even talked "sex" on line before we met. They all had proper "good girl" profiles.

Mr Enternational

08-04-16, 07:08

No, not at all.

Most of them actually contacted me first and I cannot remember we even talked "sex" on line before we met. They all had proper "good girl" profiles.It seems many guys are too anxious to fuck instead of giving the girls a chance to naturally warm up to them.

WestCoast1

08-04-16, 15:18

It seems many guys are too anxious to fuck instead of giving the girls a chance to naturally warm up to them.The different worlds we live in. My girls understand on their first visit that the only reason they are coming to my hotel is for sex. She's getting her kit off within a minute of the door closing. While I might have met her in public just prior (to look her over), and bought her a coffee or juice, there is no wine to calm the nerves once in the room before the boom (possibly after). I don't do romance, which I spell out very clearly prior (front-loading is necessary). That does *not* mean that I don't develop positive relationships with many girls. I do. However, that comes thru LATER visits.

Mr Enternational

08-04-16, 15:46

The different worlds we live in. My girls understand on their first visit that the only reason they are coming to my hotel is for sex. She's getting her kit off within a minute of the door closing.I was speaking of free chicks when I wrote that. Not chicks that you are paying or giving "gifts" too. As Wolven discussed, the ones you have never even talked about sex with.

WestCoast1

08-05-16, 01:20

I was speaking of free chicks when I wrote that. SNIP, the ones you have never even talked about sex with.I'm aware. Hence our different worlds. I try not to let free chicks in my room. This reduces to near-zero any confusion on either part as to what is about to happen.

Pinaypounder

08-05-16, 22:37

Be upfront and straight forward (hard for most Westerners) and then you have less drama and less trouble with more sex and you can still develop good relationships with them with proper framework.

PP.

FictionalSpace

08-15-16, 23:13

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences. There's frequent chatter about PinaLove and other online dating resources here, so I want to add some fuel to the conversational fire. During this trip, I intentionally limited my interactions to only online resources and only non-professionals. It's easy to grab a ST girl from WeChat et al. , but I wanted to see if it was possible to fill all of my time with regular girls.

The answer was a resounding yes. In three nights I met four girls, slept with all of them multiple times, and had each of them request to come back and join me again. Every single one came directly to my place without a meet up in advance. I spent exactly zero moolah on these endeavors, but it did take quite a bit more work than just pulling a bar girl or from WeChat. Here's the rundown:

Girl 1: PinaLove, age 27. Just wanted to try out a foreigner. I got in in the middle of the night and she got off work at 1 am. She met me at my place. Simple.

Girl 2: PinaLove, age 25. Beautiful, tiny girl. We flirted on PinaLove before my arrival and on my second afternoon she was riding me at my place. Again, easy.

Girl 3: Tinder, age 18. College student who, at 11 pm on a Sunday night, agreed to come have a beer and hang out. The rest was history.

Girl 4: Badoo, age 23. On my final afternoon, I managed one last hurrah.

I had other options set up and just ran out of time and energy. They'll have to wait for another day.

After this experience, I think I have some general tips and thoughts for anyone to consider. For reference, I'm relatively young (under 30), decent looking. Your age, appearance, and demeanor will definitely influence your results. Anyway, tips and thoughts:

1. PinaLove (et al. , but I'll just use that for example as it was my main resource) was time consuming. I bought a short paid membership to avoid the hassle of message limiting on free accounts. I sent a LOT of messages and tried a LOT of different messaging strategies ranging from extremely straight forward to genuine flirting. I found that straight forward was not the most successful tactic. Telling girls right off the bat that I was just looking for fun drove a lot of them away. I dropped that and opted to just be flirty and have conversations. Most of them end up going nowhere. Some seem promising and then die. A few pan out. It's a numbers game.

2. I was honest (or at least consistent). I stuck with one name, one story for every single girl. This was less about being honest with them and more so that I didn't mix up my stories. When I was juggling many conversations at once, it was way easier to just have a straight play. If you have to lie, at least use the same story with every girl.

3. Inevitably, usually when I invited them to my place, the question of intentions came up. At this point I had to make a decision. It depended on the girl, but usually I was opaque. I would hint at sex, but never say it outright. These girls don't want to feel like hookers. They want to be wooed. Plant the seed that that's what will happen and then play coy. Once they come visit you, you can slowly work your way there.

4. I was, though, straight up about how long I was in town. I would mention that I visit fairly often (true) and would be back, but that I only had a limited window to see them on this trip. That motivated things in many cases (and in others, weeded out the ones that weren't going to come over so quickly).

5. I stayed in an AirBnB condo and the girls seemed to like that. No hotel, no feeling like a WeChat girl going to visit someone. Plenty of space, a homey feel. I would definitely recommend this route. It's cheaper anyway, so if you don't mind making your own bed, I'd recommend it. I had multiple visitors over the course of the weekend and no hassle from security.

6. I stayed in Makati. A few girls asked me if I stayed in Ermita or Malate and when I said no, they seemed to drop their guard a bit.

7. Tinder has higher class girls on it than the dating sites. It's definitely harder, but can pay off with some effort.

8. After you start messaging, get her phone number ASAP. Use Viber (or similar) to communicate after that. Even if the conversation dies out (many will), you can strike it up later and many will pick right back up. Don't get sexual in the conversation until she does! She probably realizes what you're after, but I found it way better to let her set the pace.

9. Have pictures in your online dating profile. Many legitimate girls won't talk without a picture or two. I left the rest of the profile mostly blank.

10. Be prepared to invest some time a week or two before your visit. Dating sites work best with a little prep work.

11. Keep your place stocked with drinks, both alcoholic and non-. Many girls will decline to drink alcohol when they first arrive, but it's classy to at least offer.

All in all, lots of girls just want to have fun or are curious. But they don't want to feel used or cheap. Make them feel special (just like women everywhere, huh?) and you'll see the pay off.

MrWoolyBooly

08-16-16, 00:43

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences. Outstanding, detailed, how-to guide. I can vouch that the same techniques work even as we males age. As you mentioned, it's a numbers game.

Sammon

08-16-16, 02:01

Talk to many, land a few so the saying goes. There are some who do and others don, t. Generally many young girls are afraid of foreigners. Least of which is because of penis size. They are afraid of mistreatment or violence. Being gentle goes a long way in re assuring them. Girls who are single parents are easy to bed with.

Most girls irrespective of what they say in their profile of wanting only serious relationship and other bullshit readily will engage in sex once you start. Age is not at all important. Besides if you are good looking and young you can find girls anywhere.

Mr Enternational

08-16-16, 03:18

During this trip, I intentionally limited my interactions to only online resources and only non-professionals. Did you mean non-prostitutes (non-pros)?

Every single one came directly to my place without a meet up in advance. I spent exactly zero moolah on these endeavors, but it did take quite a bit more work than just pulling a bar girl or from WeChat.When I used to post about normal everyday free chicks in various threads of ISG, there were a lot of posters who would come out scolding that "They expect money, but are too shy to ask. You are supposed to just give them money anyway." If that is the case then I must be dealing with chicks who have the patience of Job; because after many years I am still banging a lot of the same chicks who have yet to ask for any money. Could it be that they still have not gotten over their shyness?

All in all, lots of girls just want to have fun or are curious. But they don't want to feel used or cheap. Make them feel special (just like women everywhere, huh?) and you'll see the pay off.I totally agree.

FictionalSpace

08-16-16, 03:27

Did you mean non-prostitutes (non-pros)?When I used to post about normal everyday free chicks in various threads of ISG, there were a lot of posters who would come out scolding that "They expect money, but are too shy to ask. You are supposed to give them money anyway. "I totally agree.Yes, I was after your average non-working girl. I didn't want the WeChat pros or bargirls.

Two of the girls cabbed to my place and two walked. For the two in taxis, I slipped them cab fare. Neither of them asked for it in advance (or at all, actually) and both of them tried to refuse it (as one would expect). But it's a bit like a date and I would certainly offer to pay for drinks if I were out with them, so cab fare is fine by me. No extra money was exchanged and covering cab fares did not seem expected in the least.

Member #4558

08-16-16, 16:36

Well I on the other hand always donate generously to the girls I run through each trip. Pinays are sometimes to shy to ask so it only feels right in my book to do so even if money never at any stage are being mentioned (so here you go Mr E, your welcome). Its me bringing it up. I am also younger guy by the way. There are ways to donate in a friendly non prostitute manner (call it a gift, hide money in her purse or better still put money in an envelope and write her name on it and make contribution). Only one girl refusing to take my money so far as she restocked the money in a shoe next to the entrance door without my knowledge, damn her.

So getting freebies is only cheap in my book when we have so much more than them (the average western guy vs average pinay girl). Yes I also meet girls in the same bracket as Fictional space and based on his writings I conduct also a seemingly similar MO. It was a great report by Fictional space by the way for nubes to adopt. But I cheer for a donation post session on my behalf. If you round them up for relationship purposes its another ballgame me thinks because you will eventually pay steep. Just how I feel about it (I am not particular tight on moneys).

Simmer

08-16-16, 17:32

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences...Thanks, that's a great report.

Pinaypounder

08-16-16, 20:15

NEVER FALL IN LOVE with the filipinas that you will meet on Tagged / WE Chat / Viber / DIA / Filipino Cherry etc etc etc. These are bad women for the most part and 99% will cheat on you.

There are many good women beyond the reach of these tools in the country but chances are if you are reading this you won't want to meet them because this class of woman won't fuck you within 60 minutes of having met you. You are here for the same reasons I am, easy petite ****!

IF they are fucking you right away they are not potential wives but they can be wonderful friends.

There are good Filipina Women but if you chat her and you see her pussy in the first chat or two you have met a player. And the Fantasy will begin.

They are not smart, but they are carnal and know that the pussy is their best chance at a better life and that is fine. Don't fall in love with them. Use them and reward them PROPERLY over paying is FING STUPID and limits the field.

Be polite, be proper but know that she will be cheating you as soon as she can. KNOW THIS. I may only have a few hundred posts but this is my 3rd profile since 2006.

While the Filipina are amazingly easy to bed, they are highly likely to have 3 somes and are by far more attractive than the white cows found here they are not marriage material. And we all know that makes us feel good and hey as men we can use some of this. We certainly are 2nd class citizens in our own countries.

BUT do NOT fall in love.

To a Filipina "white lies" are ok. To a Filipina real lies are ok if it helps them! A white lie is for example being when you ask her if she has fucked another man she says no, then you discover she had a 3 some with a lb and another woman for her other BF.

You see LB are not men, and the other BF only watched and paid for it so it was really not your business. GET USED TO THIS!

When you discuss this with other filipina friends, they will say that's ok, you just should have an open relationship. REALLY?

IF the Filipina is on the NET and is attractive dozens of better looking men than YOU will offer to woo her DAILY! DAILY .

Filipina have a completely different perspective on cheating and lying even when you think you are being "open and honest".

This is OK when you are PLAYIng them, but know this you are also being played. KNOW THIS KNOW THIS KNOW THIS.

The Internet has created a generation of people like no other, sexual pleasure is a click away, and the Filipina with their shitty bandwidth also know this.

So never involve your heart but also don't treat them poorly they are just common sluts like US, we are the same, I am not judging just educating.

Every trick we teach them is spreads to the masses in days so keep them ignorant and poor and they will remain our our LBFM.

IF you want to find one to bring HOME do not expect to find them here amongst us. You can take the Filipina out of the Philippines but you can't take the Philippines out of the Filipina, their culture is abhorrent it is the worst culture I have ever learned of.

Over the years I have met 3 - 5 good women, women who would not cheat out of maybe 1000 to 1400. I have fucked about 200 of them and I have been playing these games since 2007.

I wanted to bring 3 here, all cheated. ALL. I am actually now not mad anymore, I just have finally accepted you can't marry a filipina that is a total loving sexual deviant like I am. I have lived to long in the fantasy and it is a fantasy.

They are useful but they are not wives!

PP.

Pinaypounder

08-16-16, 20:25

Nice Guy 99

08-17-16, 02:18

NEVER FALL IN LOVE with the filipinas that you will meet on Tagged / WE Chat / Viber / DIA / Filipino Cherry etc etc etc.
These are bad women for the most part and 99% will cheat on you.They are useful but they are not wives!

PP.Great post and aligns with my experience. The short quote is unduly negative, read 'Pounders complete post for perspective.

Mr Enternational

08-17-16, 04:53

NEVER FALL IN LOVE with the filipinas that you will meet on Tagged / WE Chat / Viber / DIA / Filipino Cherry etc etc etc. These are bad women for the most part and 99% will cheat on you.
They are useful but they are not wives!What is your definition of a wife? From your post it seems like the only deal breaker is someone who will cheat on you. You are looking at this thing through Western eyes. I could give a fuck less about a woman fucking someone else. It is when she starts caring for someone else that a problem arises.

I also do not see how someone having a computer and being on a dating site has anything to do with whether you get cheated on or how good or bad a woman is. Long before dating apps amd computers and long before I had ever been to the Philippines, I was in the USA Navy. When the ships would go out, so would the Pinay wives. Right to the club. I will admit that the Pinay is the most cheating woman on the planet, but I still would not say 99% are like that. The onus is on each of us to evaluate our relationships independently.

Pinaypounder

08-17-16, 15:31

What is your definition of a wife? From your post it seems like the only deal breaker is someone who will cheat on you. You are looking at this thing through Western eyes. I could give a fuck less about a woman fucking someone else. It is when she starts caring for someone else that a problem arises.

I also do not see how someone having a computer and being on a dating site has anything to do with whether you get cheated on or how good or bad a woman is. Long before dating apps amd computers and long before I had ever been to the Philippines, I was in the USA Navy. When the ships would go out, so would the Pinay wives. Right to the club. I will admit that the Pinay is the most cheating woman on the planet, but I still would not say 99% are like that. The onus is on each of us to evaluate our relationships independently.A wife does not need defining its pretty clear, thanks for confirming the pinays have and were bad prior to the Internet, again its part of their culture and their please me now perspective and of course I am looking at it through Western eyes I am WESTERN.

I do care about where their pussy is at and I care more when they care about someone else.

I think you missed my point and its not worth clarifying.

PP.

Mr Enternational

08-17-16, 16:08

A wife does not need defining its pretty clear, thanks for confirming the pinays have and were bad prior to the Internet, again its part of their culture and their please me now perspective and of course I am looking at it through Western eyes I am WESTERN.

I do care about where their pussy is at and I care more when they care about someone else.

I think you missed my point and its not worth clarifying.

PP.I think you missed my point. While you claimed you were not judging, you did make a transcultural value judgement by calling them bad women because they do not follow your Western idea that a woman should not "cheat" by way of fucking someone else.

Hell, half the hookers over there have local boyfriends that send them out to "cheat" and bring money back. They don't give a shit about somebody else fucking their girl. They see things from a different angle than my heart is broken simply because someone else put their dick into my girl.

Pinaypounder

08-17-16, 16:53

I think you missed my point. While you claimed you were not judging, you did make a transcultural value judgement by calling them bad women because they do not follow your Western idea that a woman should not "cheat" by way of fucking someone else.

Hell, half the hookers over there have local boyfriends that send them out to "cheat" and bring money back. They don't give a shit about somebody else fucking their girl. They see things from a different angle than my heart is broken simply because someone else put their dick into my girl.I was not judging.

I don't run with the Hooker crowd for the last couple of years 8 - 9 visists I have met maybe 5 hookers and I have 0 problem with hookers, they are straight forward I like them. A hooker I will never talk dwon to. They are EARNING their living.

If a man is pimping his woman well sorry I don't hang with those types either, that class of man is a rung or 3 beneath me. I know of them, only a couple but yes they exist.

I was actually dating women real dating and thought I could marry one.

I don't think that is possible now.

PP.

Pita123

08-29-16, 03:48

I was not judging.

I don't run with the Hooker crowd for the last couple of years 8 - 9 visists I have met maybe 5 hookers and I have 0 problem with hookers, they are straight forward I like them. A hooker I will never talk dwon to. They are EARNING their living.

If a man is pimping his woman well sorry I don't hang with those types either, that class of man is a rung or 3 beneath me. I know of them, only a couple but yes they exist.

I was actually dating women real dating and thought I could marry one.

I don't think that is possible now.

PP.Perhaps it isn't possible because of how and where you are meeting them? My experience is deep in Thailand and very light on PI. But if you had a job here in PI and met a middle class or upper, middle class woman in a business context, would it be different? Or is it likely that the IT director of a bank also has a BF who is pimping her out?

Hutsori

08-30-16, 11:08

On Pinalove, a reasonably attractive 25-year-old writes:

I like blue and green eyes. Thats is my dream since when i was a kid.

A SPERM DONOR WHO'S WILLING TO SUPPORT THE CHILD INCASE. Willing to have a legal contract for the baby's future.

I hope i find my sperm donor this year. And if you are willing to fly here. Its my pleasure. I know half filipina and half english baby would be very very beautiful.

Im looking for a good man. A good man who like kids. Because i like kids. I am looking for someone can give me a child in the future. I want only kid. I am not looking for money. What i am looking for is a good man with a good heart.

Im looking for a 1 man willing to give me a baby. Yes only a baby. I want to be a single mom. I dont believe in marriage. No forcing about raising the child together. But dont worry i will allow the baby to recognize you as a father even if you dont. By time you will realize you want to know the baby, i will allow you. I have my small biz. A mini farm raising pigs and chicken for me tonsave money for the baby. So nothing to worry about the baby incase. but if you wabt to help, its my pleasure. I will take good care and love the baby from the bottom of my heart.

I presume facials are out of the question.

Wicked Roger

08-30-16, 11:54

On Pinalove, a reasonably attractive 25-year-old writes:

I presume facials are out of the question.And I suppose she would like my mantra "up the bum no babies come" LOL.

And asking her to swallow would like be met with a scowl LOL.

Pinaypounder

09-05-16, 18:46

FictionalSpace

09-05-16, 23:46

On Pinalove, a reasonably attractive 25-year-old writes:

I presume facials are out of the question.Oh gosh. I spoke to her. She was as out there as her profile suggests.

Wicked Roger

09-06-16, 05:13

Pita.

There are some good women there. They just don't do anal and 3 somes.

I have said several times if you swim outside of OUR circles then you can find good women! I have found 2 good women over the years out of 1500 or so. But you could indeed improve your odds by swimming in new pools.

PP.PP. I would hate to disagree with you but I can tell you there are good women out there who do anal and 3 some or moresome LOL (I know plenty LOL). But then I look like Brad Pitt as you know. Enjoy the Philippines.

Member #4558

09-06-16, 11:00

Perhaps it isn't possible because of how and where you are meeting them? My experience is deep in Thailand and very light on PI. But if you had a job here in PI and met a middle class or upper, middle class woman in a business context, would it be different? Or is it likely that the IT director of a bank also has a BF who is pimping her out?I have some experience in both your mentioned countries and with girls from the middle / upper socioeconomic brackets. What I find dealing with these girls are that they are pretty much the same. They are well educated, comes from "do well" backgrounds or they fought and worked their way up themselves. In fact I see very little difference between Thai / Phil (ex from the obvious, English ability).

They despite everything involving mongering so you better stand out as you do the same (white lies will of course do). So while dealing with ladies of such you better not invite her to Sukhumvit Soi 11 or even worse Soi 4 (Nana play grounds) or for Manila obviously EDSA, Burgos and FL's hunting grounds are off limits. On a personal level its been quite easy to me as I am not very much into bars (girl bars, go go etc etc). I am more a dating site man but you will in most cases not find these girls in dating sites. For this type of hunting I find BKK's Thong Lor area the best. In Phils Makati / Ortigas / BGC will do (even if they have red light areas in Makati it is easy to bypass as Hi so hotels infarct are located a tad outside the seedy nightlife areas). Even if seedy nightlife and Hi so living is mixed in parts of Makati it is easy to excuse yourself around the issue. The simple answer to your question on where to meet girls like this would be, go to places where they go. If you are in possession of some game they can be had because they get horny too. Many of them choose to live alone as they postpone family and children until they have established themselves with careers. If you have those features in place, you go where they go and you have some game, your worst job will be to convince them you are not a monger. If you really are a monger then you lie, lie and lie.

Everything is of course easier if you have native contacts who can introduce you as a decent fellow (female contact by far the best). When you become a part of a loop the ball starts spinning until the loop will die from natural courses. I call it "wear and tear" as you will only be able to do one or two girls from the same loop before you need to change. I guess this could go for almost all girls in the world but I had no trouble bringing them in for ONS. Of course I have failed as well but when you hunt outside the hooker environment that's just part of the game. When you succeed its rewarding and gives you a feeling being normal.

Mr Enternational

09-07-16, 05:49

So while dealing with ladies of such you better not invite her to Sukhumvit Soi 11 or even worse Soi 4 (Nana play grounds) or for Manila obviously EDSA, Burgos and FL's hunting grounds are off limits. Guys are always saying shit like this and I find it to be very far from the truth. How many women have you taken to these places? I have taken many and I must say that none of them have ever given a rat's ass. The only place I have ever stayed in Bangkok is on Soi 4. Nana Hotel, Ibis, and Grand Suk. So every regular chick that I know in Bangkok has had to visit me at those places and they went to the Soi 11 disco with me.

I have lived in Pattaya for 6 years and last night my normal girl from Laem Chabang drove here after work to stay with me and we went out to eat on Soi 7. All she said was she had never been on the street before because all she knows about Pattaya is Central Festival, Royal Garden, and The Avenue malls. I teased her about going to hang out and have drinks with one of the ladyboys who was standing over at one of the bars. I have taken other normal chicks who visit me from Bangkok to Soi 6 when Skeeter owned Sky Bar, as well as the discos on Walking Street. (Hell. Even my mom, dad, stepmom, and aunts have been to the Walking Street discos with me.).

For 2 trips in a row to Manila my girl who works at the supreme court has been to eat with me at LA Cafe.

I have done the same in Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, Aruba, and Peru. I even took one of my Colombian chicks to a house of ill repute and to my surprise she said she wanted to watch me fuck one of the chicks.

What has been your experience with having normal chicks around the scene? Or are you not speaking from experience, but from what you feel or think would result?

Member #4558

09-07-16, 06:48

Guys are always saying shit like this and I find it to be very far from the truth. How many women have you taken to these places?What has been your experience with having normal chicks around the scene? Or are you not speaking from experience, but from what you feel or think would result?Well congratulation on your great results. We obviously have different experience or we aren't talking about the same level of girls. No intention making this a pissing contest and I leave it at that you have your experience and I have mine. I have of course made enough errors to know exactly what I talk about (through my eyes of course and adjusted accordingly). Girls I meet as described in previous post I of course never meet in places dedicated for redlight activities. I am not such a huge fan of those places / areas myself but have no trouble staying close or in one if I am doing FL or Datingsite hunts (often the same but in different wrappings) myself and that's the main point of a trip / stay. Those girls are not so area sensitive and / or I call the shots on where to meet since I will pay anyway. For the other tier girls I have of course taken in some info prior to meetings and decided its a bad idea to meet them at such places as described. Maybe some wouldn't care, I will never find out.

Wolvenvacht

09-07-16, 07:14

I have some experience in both your mentioned countries and with girls from the middle / upper socioeconomic brackets. What I find dealing with these girls are that they are pretty much the same. They are well educated, comes from "do well" backgrounds or they fought and worked their way up themselves. In fact I see very little difference between Thai / Phil (ex from the obvious, English ability).

They despite everything involving mongering so you better stand out as you do the same (white lies will of course do). So while dealing with ladies of such you better not invite her to Sukhumvit Soi 11 or even worse Soi 4 (Nana play grounds) As all generalizations go, this is right and wrong at the same time.

My previous Thai GF is a master teacher, now doing the last year of her PhD. My present Thai GF still lives at home, takes care of her parents and works in a government hospital. They are definitely middle class at least and "good" girls.

Never ever did I hear them speak badly about girls that choose to work in the sex trade and both know very well I will use such services when I'm not with them. My present GF even accompanied me for a visit to Soi Cowboy and commented on the visual quality of the workers there. I think I was more embarassed than her by her candid comments. Last year I sprained my back and she send me to a massage shop in Chiang Rai (where she lives) that definitely offered happy endings. As I was really only there for a good back massage, I choose an old massage lady and kept on my boxer shorts, so "nothing happened" (other than she unbloicked by back). Back in the hotel my GF was most surprised I did not choose some young masseuse and had her "finish" me. Given that my back was OK again, the GF then proceeded to give me the happy ending I should have taken in the massage shop, murmuring all the time "not normal you take old lady".

Just to say that all our experiences are anecdotal only and whe should be very very cautious in making general assumptions.

Red Kilt

09-07-16, 09:06

Just to say that all our experiences are anecdotal only and we should be very very cautious in making general assumptions.W's statement highlighted above should be stressed over and over to all mongers venturing into chat rooms or dating sites after having read about other guys' exploits.

I am loathe to describe "blow-by-blow" accounts of experiences because when I do I get PMs from guys telling me they followed my steps and either nothing happened or something completely different transpired.

Remember, YMMV is mostly "Your mileage will (almost certainly) vary".

Simmer

09-07-16, 13:48

First off my experiences are probably not typical. Shy bloke, cautious, in the 35-45 range, a tad overweight but not gross, sun roof but remaining hair kept at #2/#3. In all these my profile clearly stated I wanted company in the evenings and maybe more, and only here for 2 weeks (ie no LTR).

I setup a Mingle2 account nearly a month before coming to the Philippines. Bad idea: do it much closer to the time. Reactivated it when I got here but didn't upload a picture for fear of others finding it. Bad idea (probably). No hits anyway.

I mentioned this one earlier on another subforum but repeating and completing the story here. Set up Tinder yesterday. Spent something like 3 hours swiping (and another hour today). Got three hits. First was a mistake, swiped the wrong way, though she wasn't that bad. Conversation kind of died naturally but I killed it completely by unmatching. Second girl came out after introductions with "want sexy massage". Carefully asked if she needed financial help for her "studies", she admitted it right away. Further on wanted $100 and I balked at that. Politely left it at that until today. Girl #3 denied wanting financial assistance and wanted to meet up last night but I declined on the account of lateness and tiredness. Agreed to come over tonight. By lunchtime today she'd disappeared from my matches. No final message. Went back to girl #2 and offered 1500 PHP and a meal. She countered with 2 k. Ok with that. Clarified full sex but she then responded that "she is nice girl, doesn't do that". Guess she really was only offering a $100 massage. Bloody hell, even in the US I'm led to believe that AMPS will do the same for less (more for FS mind). Dismissed her. Yes, dinner would have been nice, but sod the rest. Then girl #3 reappeared in my contacts. Sent her a message again but no reply. Two days and far too long on Tinder and no results!

Badoo was next. It wanted a large amount of Facebook data and I was somewhat nervous of what came up in my Badoo profile (Tinder too but that was easier to tame). Took the chickenshit route and backed out, deleting the app from Facebook too. Next time learn the lesson others have said here: set up a new FB account for these websites.

Next, not online experiences, but with slightly blue balls I went out shopping in BGC High Street. Firstly a bar / restaurant area not on the high street but the next road over. Possible potential here but quiet at 7 pm. Slowly walked along the high street, checking out possible places where FLs might hang out. Trouble is, BGC High Street is a bit scattergun approach for bars and restaurants, mostly regular stores interspersed with the occasional bar, so not many clusters. Closer to Market! Market! There is an area with a small cluster so here I sat outside checking out the people walking past, hoping that some would make eye contact. Well, some did, but either 50+ or grossly overweight. Plenty of people but mostly couples, people finishing work, or families.

Bit of a washout really! I don't really have the time to scroll through endless profiles or wait until somebody walks by, as I'm here to work, not play. Clearly I need to go to a more guaranteed location like FL168, EDSA FC, Angeles, MBC perhaps (or is it LA Cafe. Can't remember). Makati and P Burgos is closest but I don't have the money for that either. Leaning towards combining Divisoria (for shopping) and MBC / LAC at the weekend, both a good hour from here and both sort of close to each other so hit two birds with one stone.

Drukyul2000

09-07-16, 22:14

Members, I am often PM'd me asking advice about going on dating sites without revealing their face.

Recently I was asked about using fake pic on DIA.

Lets share the collective wisdom rather than keep it private?

My advice is if you can't post a pic of yourself then don't go on dating sites.

Remember the disappointment of contacting that hot chick who turned out to be a fake / scammer?

Public dating sites are very high risk, private dating sites less so but the risk is still there.

General advice on OPSEC: assume all websites (including this one) are compromised & your detail will be posted online at some point...So let me first mention that I am a newbie and learning the ropes. I will be arriving in Manila this month and have been using pinalove app to make some contacts. So I would get the girl's no and then chat on viber or WhatsApp or Line. Now I have been using my regular number for these chats, not sure how many know that on Facebook if you provide your number people can actually search with that. So I had two women do that and send me a friend request. Wooho! Well luckily their intention were not bad and I had to tell them that I can't add them as friends. One stopped communicating with me but the other and luckily the hotter one did not mind it. But can someone tell me that exposing ourselves can really lead to something like 'blackmailing' in the future? I have done a bit of mongering in Pattaya and added a girl on Facebook but never had any issues.

Drukyul2000

09-07-16, 22:27

Planning on my first trip to asia (phillipines). RTFF and Tried to sign up for DIA from India and get a message saying not available in this country. Anyone else run into this?

I have been to central and south america few times and have used FB and RL mostly.You can't sign in from India but will be able to once you are in Philippines. Maybe I am a little late but I hope this helps, that's the way DIA works, you can also try pinalove app, you can use it from anywhere like any other app.

BrainDrain

09-07-16, 23:15

Bit of a washout really! I don't really have the time to scroll through endless profiles or wait until somebody walks by, as I'm here to work, not play. Clearly I need to go to a more guaranteed location like FL168, EDSA FC, Angeles, MBC perhaps (or is it LA Cafe. Can't remember). Makati and P Burgos is closest but I don't have the money for that either. Leaning towards combining Divisoria (for shopping) and MBC / LAC at the weekend, both a good hour from here and both sort of close to each other so hit two birds with one stone.Which part of Manila are you in? I think you are over engineering something.

I think you are right to turn down the $100 massage.

Install WeChat and use a Philippines number. Use Nearby to find females in your local area.

Suggest less pressure on the sure thing commitment prior to meeting. Even if you get a massage only, meet the girl, ask her if she has friends that are looking for a cash. They will know what you mean. More fun than spending the night in manila alone and frustrated. Few pinay will confirm sex on the chat, but give them a bedroom, low light, a nice attitude and a naked cock and they seem to work it out.

By the way, which area of Manila are you in?

BD.

Member #4558

09-08-16, 02:30

So let me first mention that I am a newbie and learning the ropes. I will be arriving in Manila this month and have been using pinalove app to make some contacts. So I would get the girl's no and then chat on viber or WhatsApp or Line. Now I have been using my regular number for these chats, not sure how many know that on Facebook if you provide your number people can actually search with that. So I had two women do that and send me a friend request. Wooho! Well luckily their intention were not bad and I had to tell them that I can't add them as friends. One stopped communicating with me but the other and luckily the hotter one did not mind it. But can someone tell me that exposing ourselves can really lead to something like 'blackmailing' in the future? I have done a bit of mongering in Pattaya and added a girl on Facebook but never had any issues.Firstly I hope for Gods sake you have created yourself with a fake FB account? If you use an account of origin aka one with your personal real info and real friends / family on, well, I don't know about blackmailing, but you could at least get some trouble explaining why a naughty pinay is posting shit about you (if you from some reasons don't come to one agreement of sorts). Been there done that many years ago. I am wiser now. With my new fake FB I didn't have any issues at all. But the account can not in anyway be connected with your original account. Even having the same pic in the two or more accounts will tip the ladies off in there "friends suggestion" you might have more than one account and depending on your safety level / privacy settings they could maybe do some shit to you. But if you behave and don't get yourself enemies you will most likely be fine. Anyway a fake FB is the way to go as at least I don't want my real world colliding with my monger world.

So create yourself a second new life, fill it up with pinays (just search for "pinay dating" in FB). If you have a pic of yourself use it and preferably from you in Phils somewhere to actually prove you have been here before. It tends to help with girls accepting your request. Good luck.

Dg8787

09-08-16, 03:48

Ceegee

09-08-16, 04:05

You are only blackmailable if you are blackmailable. I use my regular page and have not had a problem. Only one problem was a pesky girl kept asking for money and I blocked her and she made up new FB pages to contact me. I just blocked those pages too.If he is worried about it, it seems he might be blackmailable. Pinays keep asking for my FB, I just tell them I don't have it. Get a second phone, disposable sim, fake name, compartmentalize everything related to mongering so that when you leave, you are a ghost. That way you can contact them if you want to, but they cannot contact you. I've seen too many friends get this wrong and lose half of everything they own, including access to their kids.

Ceegee

09-08-16, 06:53

Ceegee

09-08-16, 07:34

Pawned her phone? A girl just told me the only way I can contact her is via dating site messages because she pawned her phone. Of all her worldly possessions, surely her phone is the last thing she would pawn. Or borrow a friend's phone love, how are we supposed to arrange to meet so you can collect your pay check if you don't have access to a phone?Figured it out. It's a scam, what a surprise. A different girl told me the same thing, but called me via Skype and showed me her tits on cam. Great tits. Of course she needed me to send her 1000 pesos now so she could get her phone back so we could meet.

So now any girl that doesn't have a phone gets instantly blocked. I got to see a great pair of tits for free though LOL.

Mr Enternational

09-08-16, 07:37

Ceegee

09-08-16, 07:41

Are you brand new? They pawn phones all the time. I had a real girlfriend that I never gave any money to do the same. You can arrange a meet up on the dating site just as she told you. Communication is communication.Not new at all. In fact, since I know how woeful Phils girls are at time keeping, the last thing I want is a girl that I cannot communicate with while she is in transit. She could be an hour drive away and just starting on her hair and makeup at the arranged meeting time. No thanks.

Simmer

09-08-16, 15:02

Which part of Manila are you in? I think you are over engineering something.

I think you are right to turn down the $100 massage.

Install WeChat and use a Philippines number. Use Nearby to find females in your local area.

Suggest less pressure on the sure thing commitment prior to meeting. Even if you get a massage only, meet the girl, ask her if she has friends that are looking for a cash. They will know what you mean. More fun than spending the night in manila alone and frustrated. Few pinay will confirm sex on the chat, but give them a bedroom, low light, a nice attitude and a naked cock and they seem to work it out.

By the way, which area of Manila are you in?

BD.You're probably right, being TOO honest. Well, not that I'm asking for a fuck, just saying that I'm here only for 2 weeks. Actually I've said I want a dinner date and whatever might happen next. That much is actually true: it's kinda boring working during the day and then having little to do in the evenings.

Thanks for the suggestions: will give them a go.

I'm in Bonifacio, south of Makati. Clearly not the best place by far for this kind of thing, but my main purpose here is business. Once or twice a week "a bit on the side" is enough for me, so business locality more important than shag locality.

Drukyul2000

09-08-16, 20:59

Firstly I hope for Gods sake you have created yourself with a fake FB account? If you use an account of origin aka one with your personal real info and real friends / family on, well, I don't know about blackmailing, but you could at least get some trouble explaining why a naughty pinay is posting shit about you (if you from some reasons don't come to one agreement of sorts). Been there done that many years ago. I am wiser now. With my new fake FB I didn't have any issues at all. But the account can not in anyway be connected with your original account. Even having the same pic in the two or more accounts will tip the ladies off in there "friends suggestion" you might have more than one account and depending on your safety level / privacy settings they could maybe do some shit to you. But if you behave and don't get yourself enemies you will most likely be fine. Anyway a fake FB is the way to go as at least I don't want my real world colliding with my monger world.

So create yourself a second new life, fill it up with pinays (just search for "pinay dating" in FB). If you have a pic of yourself use it and preferably from you in Phils somewhere to actually prove you have been here before. It tends to help with girls accepting your request. Good luck.Hey,

Thank you these are really good suggestions, I never realized that my phone no. Could be linked to my FB account till these two women send me friend requests. I agree I have been naive and to an extent lazy. Also I really did not have a choice since I am still in my home country and to had add and chat on viber / WhatsApp with the same number. The smart thing to do would be to remove the phone number from FB till I get a mongering number once I step into Manila.

Drukyul2000

09-08-16, 21:08

Pawned her phone? A girl just told me the only way I can contact her is via dating site messages because she pawned her phone. Of all her worldly possessions, surely her phone is the last thing she would pawn. Or borrow a friend's phone love, how are we supposed to arrange to meet so you can collect your pay check if you don't have access to a phone?Well the pawning story sounds OK. Wait till you listen to my story. So there is this 25 year old hottie. I mean she is pretty. As usual the girl gave me her number to chat on viber and after chatting with for a short while, she asked me for money. She apparently has some emergency at home and wanted me to send her money immediately and she would meet me in Manila and give the money back, also spend time with me. I said no and told her honey I pay only after boom boom.

I mean it could be some guy sitting on the other side and scamming people for money. People who have "emergency" at home do not log in Pinalove and scout for guys.

FreebieFan

09-09-16, 01:26

I said no and told her honey I pay only after boom boom.
.And that is a fine guiding principle that many guys would do well to follow. Theres an endless stream of emergencies for these girls.

Another guiding principle, is they they did fine before you met you, and they will do fine long after you are gone. Don't be " guilted " into parting with money.

There's a who army of princesses in Angeles who all get WU support from guys who they bonked once, and who feel a need to send them money every month. Thats just plain weird to me.

X Man

09-09-16, 13:10

Oh, why so skeptical? I had a gal who asked for help immediately after the big Leyte / Samar / North Cebu disaster typhoon. Her house was completely destroyed. They needed food.

She is a very industrious gal since she was able to find the one Internet cafe with a connection despite the power being out in that area.

Out of the pity of my heart, I sent her my life savings. I hope she's in much better condition now, but I haven't heard from her since. X.

Well the pawning story sounds OK. Wait till you listen to my story. So there is this 25 year old hottie. I mean she is pretty. As usual the girl gave me her number to chat on viber and after chatting with for a short while, she asked me for money. She apparently has some emergency at home and wanted me to send her money immediately and she would meet me in Manila and give the money back, also spend time with me. I said no and told her honey I pay only after boom boom.

I mean it could be some guy sitting on the other side and scamming people for money. People who have "emergency" at home do not log in Pinalove and scout for guys.

Simmer

09-09-16, 16:06

People who have "emergency" at home do not log in Pinalove and scout for guys.Not sure if you're joking but. Yes. Yes, they do! And I don't blame them. Sometimes they really are genuine. But it's up to you (and your little head) whether you accept the possible rewards. For me, a recent US $100 "sexy massage" reduced to US $50 with guaranteed no FS was a definite non acceptance. Last year the Angeles Php3,000 barfine with a beauty who *afterwards* said she only did it to support her family was definitely worth it. Damn, she got my heartstrings. But after rather than before. Cost vs reward. Business.

Dg8787

09-09-16, 16:34

As usurious as pawning and 5/6 is, it is the last financing available for the common Filipino. It can make the difference whether there is something to eat or not.

As you look around there are many pawn shops in Phil. I remember a girl that would pawn her "gold" necklace every other month for P500. That 2 k necklace probably ended up costing her 5 k over a short life time of pawning.

I remember a taxi driver in Davao telling me his wife ran a sari sari store out of their house. The BIR caught up with him and he borrowed 5/6 each month to pay the monthly fee. He didn't have enough for the yearly fee which would have been much cheaper.

Sadly when you are low / no income pawning is a way of life.

D Cups

09-09-16, 21:39

I know several guys (including myself) who have helped any number of bona fide hard luck cases but no where near my life savings.

Oh, why so skeptical? I had a gal who asked for help immediately after the big Leyte / Samar / North Cebu disaster typhoon. Her house was completely destroyed. They needed food.

She is a very industrious gal since she was able to find the one Internet cafe with a connection despite the power being out in that area.

Out of the pity of my heart, I sent her my life savings. I hope she's in much better condition now, but I haven't heard from her since. X..

Dg8787

09-09-16, 21:41

I know several guys (including myself) who have helped any number of bona fide hard luck cases but no where near my life savings..It may have been the same amount.

Drukyul2000

09-09-16, 21:59

Oh, why so skeptical?

Out . X.Well Mr. X I am not sure what to make of your story but I do appreciate what you did as it requires a big heart to do what you did. Whether it was a smart thing to do, now that is something we can debate on but each one to his own, you gut said it was a genuine case and you helped out, good for you.

Well in my case I just did not feel that it was a genuine cry for help, I was confident that she was just trying to scam the way the whole thing went.

I do see her regular on Pinalove, maybe I should share her handle with you and see how it goes, just for fun let's see what happens. Also next time if I need help I am surely messaging you. LOL.

Mr Enternational

09-09-16, 22:37

Hey,

Thank you these are really good suggestions, I never realized that my phone no. Could be linked to my FB account till these two women send me friend requests. I agree I have been naive and to an extent lazy. Also I really did not have a choice since I am still in my home country and to had add and chat on viber / WhatsApp with the same number. The smart thing to do would be to remove the phone number from FB till I get a mongering number once I step into Manila.I never realized that was why people who did not know my name were able to add me. I just tried to remove my phone number and got this message: Are you sure you want to remove this phone?

You will no longer be able to use this phone to receive notifications or upload any photos and videos to Facebook.

Mr Enternational

09-09-16, 23:40

I never realized that my phone no. Could be linked to my FB account till these two women send me friend requests. I agree I have been naive and to an extent lazy. Also I really did not have a choice since I am still in my home country and to had add and chat on viber / WhatsApp with the same number.Here is a fix: http://tech.thaivisa.com/how-to-stop-whatsapp-sharing-your-phone-number-with-facebook/17075/.

AussieGaigin

09-10-16, 01:11

I never realized that was why people who did not know my name were able to add me. I just tried to remove my phone number and got this message: Are you sure you want to remove this phone?

You will no longer be able to use this phone to receive notifications or upload any photos and videos to Facebook.BS.

My FB page doesn't have my phone number, and I have no problems communicating.

When I did try putting my number in ("for greater security" they claimed?) It meant I was getting SMS / TXT messages for notifications, as well as directly to my FB page, I didn't need that.

Amavida

09-10-16, 02:32

I never realized that was why people who did not know my name were able to add me. I just tried to remove my phone number and got this message: Are you sure you want to remove this phone?

You will no longer be able to use this phone to receive notifications or upload any photos and videos to Facebook.Professional punters have a 'burner' phone I. E. A cheap dumb phone with SIM not used for anything else.

Better yet a dual sim phone, one SIM for business / personal use & the other SIM for punting.

Same for email accounts & social accounts. A real one & a fake one for punting.

FB is so invasive even with all the privacy settings maxed out that I end up 'disabling' it between uses & avoid using it as much as possible.

Tinder / Vine et al are up front.

Both parties know why they are on there. No be. S.

Game on.

Ceegee

09-10-16, 13:20

Professional punters have a 'burner' phone I. E. A cheap dumb phone with SIM not used for anything else.

Better yet a dual sim phone, one SIM for business / personal use & the other SIM for punting.

Same for email accounts & social accounts. A real one & a fake one for punting.

This. So completely this. If you need to keep your activities private, get a cheap second smart phone. Keep your main phone clean, so when your wife / girlfriend randomly goes through it, there is nothing to find. If you don't need to this, then lucky you.

I go one step further, I have a 'burner' identity, name / job / country everything. The girls have no idea. When my second phone gets turned off, I am a ghost.

Member #4558

09-10-16, 13:42

This. So completely this. If you need to keep your activities private, get a cheap second smart phone. Keep your main phone clean, so when your wife / girlfriend randomly goes through it, there is nothing to find. If you don't need to this, then lucky you.

I go one step further, I have a 'burner' identity, name / job / country everything. The girls have no idea. When my second phone gets turned off, I am a ghost.This is a very good idea. A completely artificial second life (alter ego). Its the way to go. Only problem if some situation arises is the fact, if you stay in hotels, reception in most cases will want to see your passport and your real life name will be presented to them. For Hi end hotels its mandatory. Never did like it.

In room be alert to remove bag tags from your suitcase, boarding cards etc you bin (they also will show your real name). I was confronted myself after a toilet visit when my bring in (girl) stood with my boarding card and asked who is Mr Xyz. Just saying.

Ceegee

09-11-16, 12:21

This is a very good idea. A completely artificial second life (alter ego). Its the way to go. Only problem if some situation arises is the fact, if you stay in hotels, reception in most cases will want to see your passport and your real life name will be presented to them. For Hi end hotels its mandatory. Never did like it.

In room be alert to remove bag tags from your suitcase, boarding cards etc you bin (they also will show your real name). I was confronted myself after a toilet visit when my bring in (girl) stood with my boarding card and asked who is Mr Xyz. Just saying.I rarely check in to the hotel with a girl in tow, the few times I have I simply told the girl to take a seat somewhere away from the reception desk while I check in. I remember once the check in counter girl had noticed I walked in the front door with somebody else and tried to tell me she needed to be added to the room. When I told the check in girl that the scantily clad girl sitting in a chair out of earshot would only be staying an hour and not the night, therefore no need to be added, the check in chick turned bright red and was much more embarrassed than I was.

I also made the boarding pass mistake once. She took it well as I gave her a small tip and I never made that mistake again. Pretty much everything about my MO has been learned the hard way.

Janboi

09-13-16, 22:38

I will be in Angeles in a couple weeks. I have collected at least 150 cell phone numbers. All from DIA. First whenever a girl first messages me I reply. "I am really busy right now, leave your number so I can get back to you." A lot of the ladies leave their number. I got tired of that and just started messaging. "I will be in Angeles end of September leave your number so I can text you when I get to town. " I get a lot of numbers this way. If they give me their number I then ask for their schedule. Three have told me they are bar girls, one is a freelancer. I know I am probably not doing this right.

I don't know how many of these girls are going to show up. I am thinking my first message might be something like. "Just got into town, don't feel like going out, come over we'll watch a movie, got HBO. " just to see how many will come to the room. I really don't have much game but if they show up I will do my best. I have a problem with being liked. So, some of these girls are still looking for someone to marry them. I don't know how to tell them differently.

Thinking about. After the deed. "I don't know what I was thinking. I am really in no shape to be in a relationship with anyone right now. Just got out of one relationship. I was hoping to let my wounds heal; then I met you. " One interesting girl claims to be seventeen, turns 18 a week after I get there. She wants to come to my room; she wants to meet me at the airport. I figure the working girls just might like to pretend that they are normal girls on a date.

So, I will just keep escalating until I get them or until they bring up money. I guess the worst that could happen is that I will end up with a girlfriend for 3 weeks. I am not taking a lot of money, so hopefully, I won't need the P4P, but then I think that might be nice too. This is my first time to Angeles. My plan is to run these numbers and try day game.

While learning about the girls and the bars. Going to the after hours clubs and trying my luck there. Any advise would be appreciated. I have a room reserved at Saleh Hotel right off Fields for 600 P / night. Now I just found out I can rent an apartment for the whole month for 4 k. But I like the location of Saleh.

D Cups

09-14-16, 01:33

QUOTE=Janboi;1936051 will be in Angeles end of September QUOTE hmmmmm. I have seen many overweight, unhandsome men with beautiful pinays. Foster a sense of humor and treat them with kindness, generosity and they will treat you nicely. I'm 60, beer belly and have been with some of the most beautiful girls in the the pi. I love this place and am planning to retire here in 2022.

FreebieFan

09-14-16, 01:37

"Just got into town, don't feel like going out, come over we'll watch a movie, got HBO. " just to see how many will come to the room. I really don't have much game but if they show up I will do my best. I have a problem with being liked. So, some of these girls are still looking for someone to marry them. I don't know how to tell them differently.

" One interesting girl claims to be seventeen, turns 18 a week after I get there. She wants to come to my room; she wants to meet me at the airport. I figure the working girls just might like to pretend that they are normal girls on a date.

S.Some words of advice if I may.

" Got HBO " is not a line that will work. Every hotel and every home that has a channel subscription has HBO. All over Asia. Plus 10 other movie channels. Now if you tell a girl come, " Eat Bulaga" is on, that might work. Or AIDub are on, that works better. Do the research.

If a girl tells you she's turning 18 , you best be super careful. Lots of info on this site about scams. The girl tells you she's 18, gets to your room, she texts a number. 20 minutes later mom and police arrive, they tell you she is only 16. You will be drained of all your cash in a legal heartbeat. Ignore the turning 18 or go with it, totally at your own risk.

Forget the waffle about getting out of a relationship etc. These girls are there to bonk you in exchange for money. They are not looking for a relationship unless they sense you are a total novice and newbie. Then they will spin you a story about having to work and soon you will be their Western Union *****. Bonk them then slap their pwet as they exit, then go out and find the next!

Sammon

09-14-16, 01:48

I will be in Angeles in a couple weeks. I have collected at least 150 cell phone numbers. All from DIA.

I don't know how many of these girls are going to show up. I am thinking my first message might be something like. "Just got into town, don't feel like going out, come over we'll watch a movie, got HBO. " just to see how many will come to the room. I really don't have much game but if they show up I will do my best. I have a problem with being liked. So, some of these girls are still looking for someone to marry them. I don't know how to tell them differently.

Thinking about. After the deed. "I don't know what I was thinking. I am really in no shape to be in a relationship with anyone right now. Just got out of one relationship. I was hoping to let my wounds heal; then I met you. " One interesting girl claims to be seventeen, turns 18 a week after I get there. She wants to come to my room; she wants to meet me at the airport. I figure the working girls just might like to pretend that they are normal girls on a date.

So, I will just keep escalating until I get them or until they bring up money. I guess the worst that could happen is that I will end up with a girlfriend for 3 weeks. I am not taking a lot of money, so hopefully, I won't need the P4P, but then I think that might be nice too. This is my first time to Angeles. My plan is to run these numbers and try day game.

While learning about the girls and the bars. Going to the after hours clubs and trying my luck there. Any advise would be appreciated. I have a room reserved at Saleh Hotel right off Fields for 600 P / night. Now I just found out I can rent an apartment for the whole month for 4 k. But I like the location of Saleh.Do not know what kind of run down room you get for 600 pesos.

All girls want money especially in Angeles. They all know the deal. Watching HBO will not cut it. Angeles is notorious for [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) scams. Beware!

Most Philippinos change their phone numbers often. It is very cheap to buy new SIM cards.

It looks like you are a frugal monger. Not sure if you will get decent girls in Angeles without spending money.

MrWoolyBooly

09-14-16, 03:23

I will be in Angeles in a couple weeks. I am not taking a lot of money, so hopefully, I won't need the P4PWith all due respect, going to AC for non-stop dating while avoiding P4P seems misguided. AC is built on P4P. Ladies looking for P4P migrate there from all parts of the country like moths to a flame. There certainly are plenty of non-pro lady residents of Pampanga, but staying right on Fields is not the place to find or invite them. Of course you are free to pursue your goals as you see fit. I'd recommend staying in an equally frugal place in Metro Manila and hitting the dating sites non-stop 24/7, double booking all the while. The population pool of beautiful, willing ladies is several times greater. In three weeks with the slightest bit of inoffensive socializing the opportunities are endless.

BrainDrain

09-20-16, 04:56

Feeling a little board this lunch hour I looked into my traveller / monger Facebook profile to tickle along a few potential rendezvous. Noticed something interesting about my list of messages which appear in pages of 8 FB private conversations and how my Philippine trips get so busy with so much potential.

Page 1 - have bedded 4. Would bed again if practical.

Page 2 - just bedded 1, and I'm off her menu as she has a BF.

Page 3 - have bedded 3 of the 8. Two off my menu as too complicated.

Page 4 - have bedded 5 of the 8. These are all certainties that will see me anytime.

Page 5 - 0.

Page 6 - 1 that works in Lollipop.

Page 7 - 1 office professional.

Page 8, 9 - 0.

Page 10 - Cebu house maid, off my menu, she's aged out of my range, she's over 30.

Page 11 - 3. All off menu, 2 married now, 1 put me off her menu.

Pages 12-16 - 0.

What does it tell me? I keep in touch with the girls I feel more uncertain about. I've had a lot of fun. It's a numbers game. Need to send and contact a healthy number and find the ones that float to the top.

I love the RP, so much fun.

BD.

WestCoast1

09-20-16, 05:14

just bedded 1, and I'm off her menu as she has a BF.Don't let *that* stop you!

Haha.

BrainDrain

09-20-16, 05:24

Don't let *that* stop you!

Haha.Yes, I was thinking that as I wrote it. In her case she is in HK, she has one off day per week and her "BF" can visit more often than my casual 6 monthly visit. But if I'm next in ton I will call her and put he wishes to the test. .

Wolvenvacht

09-20-16, 07:14

I will be in Angeles in a couple weeks. I have collected at least 150 cell phone numbers.

(. . .)

Thinking about. After the deed. "I don't know what I was thinking. I am really in no shape to be in a relationship with anyone right now. Just got out of one relationship. I was hoping to let my wounds heal; then I met you. " One interesting girl claims to be seventeen, turns 18 a week after I get there. She wants to come to my room; she wants to meet me at the airport. I figure the working girls just might like to pretend that they are normal girls on a date.

(. . .)
Somebody is going to get burned, badly!

ImAGuy

09-20-16, 09:30

BrainDrain

09-20-16, 23:19

I will be in Angeles in a couple weeks. /snip/ I have a room reserved at Saleh Hotel right off Fields for 600 P / night. Now I just found out I can rent an apartment for the whole month for 4 k. But I like the location of Saleh.Like many (all) of the people whom have replied to this you are wasting your time. A phone number means nothing as does the various responses they have sent you. Think of the numbers you are messaging 150 girls, each of whom are messaging 300 guys. They really haven't given you any thought, so it actually might be worse for you if you have an issue with rejection as you will be easily missed by 120 of these girls whom at some stage will lose their numbers, have no internet etc etc.

It is Angeles city, there is a girl for everyone, or should I say 30 girls for every guy. I'd suggest.

A) Cull your numbers, you are taking too big a communication overhead.

B) Spread your contact with the girls ie they don't all think you arrive same day.

C) In the week before you go, dig a little deeper and find girls you actually like.

D) In AC it is an industry for girls to go to rooms, that is not where I put my efforts. Look for interesting girls.

E) In AC money talks. For your accom, suggest you just book first night at P500 then look around or Devera Hotel could be a low cost good first location too, for about P1200 for the one night. Use that as your base to inspect the other accom offers.

F) Also, lots of cheaper hotels further up towards Perimeter. On your budget, you might get better value at Permeter Bars (like I do) than spending all day on Fields higher rates for girls, foods, drinks etc. Just catch P7 jeepney to Fields.

Actually, as I write this I think if I were you, ID base myself near Perimeter bars and enjoy it there.

BD.

CRamsey

09-21-16, 12:38

I have a room reserved at Saleh Hotel right off Fields for 600 P / night. Now I just found out I can rent an apartment for the whole month for 4 k. But I like the location of Saleh.Could you tell me in what area you can get an apartment for that price? When I go over there I will be interested in rent an apartment too. By the way, it has kitchen?

Regards.

MrWoolyBooly

09-29-16, 03:40

Member #4558

09-29-16, 04:08

Online chatting blah blah blah, but in the last couple years I've often been asked "Are you staying in a hotel or condo?" Does anybody have any idea why the ladies would ask this question in particular?HM I've had a two sided answers to this question. Some girls like condo better because they feel joining a guy at a hotel label them as prostitutes. Other girls fancy hotels because it provides them (like us) safety. Depends really what the girl highlight as important to her.

Wicked Roger

09-29-16, 04:31

Could you tell me in what area you can get an apartment for that price? When I go over there I will be interested in rent an apartment too. By the way, it has kitchen?

Regards.Manager alert as CRamsey you have 6 FRs and 6 questions. The response to Janboi's FRs suggest (if you read them) is that some think he is pulling people's plonkers as he has gone very quiet when challenged. Perhaps you should do some more RTFF and search elsewhere and let us know what you find and share as there is a raft of hotel discount sites that can tell you if the 'dream' of a cheap condo / hotel room is true. Take around 1-3 minutes and I just did it (easy am I am not a tech warrior either LOL).

Amavida

09-29-16, 06:15

HM I've had a two sided answers to this question. Some girls like condo better because they feel joining a guy at a hotel label them as prostitutes. Other girls fancy hotels because it provides them (like us) safety. Depends really what the girl highlight as important to her.Additionally, hotel=bonk today gone tomorrow, condo=potentially BF / Hubble material.

Dg8787

09-29-16, 06:27

For some girls it is as simple as not having an ID. Hotels might require an ID and condos might not.

Some girls want to be on the down low and won't go to a hotel and show their ID.

Best to just ask each girl why!

Hutsori

10-01-16, 01:59

Online chatting blah blah blah, but in the last couple years I've often been asked "Are you staying in a hotel or condo?" Does anybody have any idea why the ladies would ask this question in particular?Coincidentally I see more girls put "no sex tourist" and "I'm not your travel companion" in their dating-site profiles. Perhaps she met some fella previously who told her he lives here, she thought there's a chance to groom a boyfriend, and then a few days later he's flying away. Forever. And then she realised he had been staying in a hotel.

A hotel guest is a short-time visitor such as a tourist. A condo resident is someone who lives here. Of course airbnb has changed this a bit.

The next time you're asked, ask the girl "Is there a difference?

Amavida

10-01-16, 04:33

A hotel guest is a short-time visitor such as a tourist. A condo resident is someone who lives here. Of course airbnb has changed this a bit.Not being perickity Huts but there was a thriving condo rental scene long before AirBnB. College girls are clued to this, nudge nudge wink wink. 😎

The next time you're asked, ask the girl "Is there a difference?Or more accurately, have your story ready. Either up front about not wanting LTR or a highly elaborate BS story which we both know from experience has hilarious consequences 😇.

Let's not forget many girls have 37 other poriner BF's some of who drop in to pollinate her when we are not around.

MrWoolyBooly

10-01-16, 10:48

Of course airbnb has changed this a bit.

The next time you're asked, ask the girl "Is there a difference?Good suggestion. Maybe I didn't realize there was a difference because lately I've spent half my stays in condos regardless of duration, booked via AirBnb, Agoda, etc. Maybe I'll lean toward selecting condos if the perception is better.

MrWoolyBooly

10-01-16, 10:57

Either up front about not wanting LTR or a highly elaborate BS story which we both know from experience has hilarious consequences

Let's not forget many girls have 37 other poriner BF's some of who drop in to pollinate her when we are not around.Finding willing ladies is no challenge. Keeping one's dozen improvised BS stories straight in a whirlwind of messaging, bonking, escorting in and out, cleaning evidence, eating too much, sleeping too little, and perhaps imbibing a bit. That's the challenge!

I tend to bond better with the girls that are open about their poriner BFs. They have no inconvenient illusions about me either.

Sammon

10-01-16, 14:55

Coincidentally I see more girls put "no sex tourist" and "I'm not your travel companion" in their dating-site profiles. Perhaps she met some fella previously who told her he lives here, she thought there's a chance to groom a boyfriend, and then a few days later he's flying away. Forever. And then she realised he had been staying in a hotel.

A hotel guest is a short-time visitor such as a tourist. A condo resident is someone who lives here. Of course airbnb has changed this a bit.

The next time you're asked, ask the girl "Is there a difference?Like anything else there are girls who do not mind a romp in the sack whoever the man is. There are others who for one reason or another limit themselves for long term relationship etc. Irrespective of what they write in their profile very few have run away once I mentioned to them I am looking for a companion for fun. So I have stopped reading their profile. If they reply to my message I continue talking to them and see. Unless there are people who promise the world to get into their pants and run away, if the guys are honest in their expectations they will be rewarded. Of course all girls are looking for stability and emotional, financial support. I have never stayed in Apartments. Hotels gives me the security I require if any unseen ugly incidents happen. There are girls who think if staying in the hotel with a foreigner and walking hand in hand and sitting down for breakfast brands them as being cheap. There are others who do not mind kissing you in front of everybody. Usually very young 18-19 year old girls are very shy. I have ordered them room service breakfasts even though breakfast for two is included.

Treat the girls nice and you will be rewarded.

Member #4558

10-01-16, 23:17

I also choose hotels above airbnb rental apt any given day from same set of reasons as BM Sammon. I choose mostly apt style sized with own kitchen the only difference will be its in a hotel. I am sure I loose out a few girls who would not want to go into hotels but still the pond is so full of fishes so it doesn't matter. If a hottie is in doubt if she will come or not I put in a small white lie here and there to help her make a decision. Can be crap like "I invite you to my apt and I make dinner for you (I don't want my worst enemy to eat my self made food, its for me and me only to digest)". Many girls find that so interesting and probably very unpinoy so it can be a deal maker. When she in fact shows up I make up an excuse dinner can't happen and I order in some food or we go to nearby eatery for some sort of compensation for breaking my promise.

Since its hard to step up as monger being in a relationship back home without lying I have a whole set of premade, well tried, small white ones. Nothing major as I never try to delude girls into the belief I look for serious relationship but its more lies which can keep me in some sort of stealth mode. I call it my alter (monger) ego. It runs in some sort of parallel with my real life but there are still a wall between the two. I tend to relax more when girls I meet also cheats. Then we are equal assholes which suites me fine. I can tell single girls even if they know I am not here or there for relationship still have this undefined hope of a better tomorrow. I guess it is quite a lot of trying and failing on their part. Kind of keeps the mongering going me thinks.

And remember always to give a gift at the end. Many guys exploit pinays, very few openly won't admit it but they are out there, and their maybe a tad naive views on love and relationship. Makes it sadly to easy to exploit.

Member #4558

10-01-16, 23:34

I also choose hotels above airbnb rental pats any given day from same set of reasons as BM Sammon. I choose mostly apt style sized with own kitchen the only difference will be its in a hotel. I am sure I loose out a few girls who would not want to go into hotels but still the pond is so full of fishes so it doesn't matter. If a hottie is in doubt if she will come or not I put in a small white lie here and there to help her make a decision. Can be crap like "I invite you to my apt and I make dinner for you (I don't want my worst enemy to eat my self made food, its for me and me only to digest)". Many girls find that so interesting and probably very unpinoy so it can be a deal maker. When she in fact shows up I make up an excuse dinner can't happen and I order in some food or we go to nearby eatery for some sort of compensation for breaking my promise.

Since its hard to step up as monger being in a relationship back home without lying I have a whole set of premade, well tried, small white ones. Nothing major as I never try to delude girls into the belief I look for serious relationship but its more lies which can keep me in some sort of stealth mode. I call it my alter (monger) ego. It runs in some sort of parallell with my real life but there are still a wall between the two. I tend to relax more when girls I meet also cheats. Then we are equal assholes which suites me fine. I can tell single girls even if they know I am not here or there for relationship still have this undefined hope of a better tomorrow. I guess it is quite a lot of trying and failing on their part. Kind of keeps the mongering going me thinks.

And remember always to give a gift at the end. Many guys exploit pinays, very few openly won't admit it but they are out there, and their maybe a tad naive views on love and relationship. Makes it sadly to easy to exploit.

WestCoast1

10-02-16, 03:53

Irrespective of what they write in their profile very few have run away once I mentioned to them I am looking for a companion for fun. So I have stopped reading their profile.I have not used a dating site for approximately the last 2 years. Prior to that, I'd put a profile on this or that site (DIA or Blossoms) about 3-4 weeks prior to my upcoming trip. Rarely did a girl run away when I mentioned that I was looking for overnight fun only. See below.

If they reply to my message I continue talking to them and see. To continue that thought, for the last 4 or so years that I used a dating profile, I never contacted anyone. I only replied to those who contacted my (very explicit, hard-to-miss-playboy-only) profile. In addition to those who read my nawty profile and contacted me, a good chunk of ladies never bothered reading my profile. My first response to any lady who contacted me was always the same: "Thanks the reply. Did you read my profile? Its a bit nawty and very honest". Some girls never replied back, and I'm sure they hadn't read the profile in the first place. But many did, whether they had read it before contacting me, or after. Either way, those who replied in the affirmative to continue talking after my 'nawty and honest' message were clearly in the game. For many of those left in the game, quite a number had messages on their profile about not wanting playboy-type relationships. Did that stop me from photo / phucking dozens and dozens of ladies from Cebu, Manila, and many provices who had anti-playboy profiles? No. As Sammon says, just ignore their profile till they disappear or tell you to take a hike. The profile itself might not even have been written by the girl herself.

Unusual situation regarding it. A few years ago I was contacted on a dating site by an older lady, who had a nice profile. I left the 'nawty and honest' reply. She replied positively, and asked if we could chat (I was being set up for an ambush). We exchanged YM usernames and a day later had our first (and last) chat. We had pleasant introductions and about 5 minutes of pleasantries, what is your work, and so on. Then she hit me with something like this: "Please don't come here. Lovemaking is sacred among Pilipino. We are not like you westerners. Your dollars corrupt our girls and leave unwanted babies that you don't take care of. Please don't come here. If you must come to Philippines, please don't come to Cebu". Wow.

X Man

10-02-16, 13:25

MrWoolyBooly

10-02-16, 14:04

Your dollars corrupt our girls and leave unwanted babies that you don't take care of. Hilarious! She must not have noticed the number of available single or abandoned moms with 100% Pinoy babies in a country without enforced child support. I've read many moralist speeches about familial responsibilities from politicians in the Philippines, but it's strange how there's no legislation to allow establishing paternity through DNA testing. A cynical person might conclude that influential males in the country prefer the status quo.

WestCoast1

10-02-16, 16:01

Westy, Do you think it was really an older Fiipina? The stereotyping does sound familiar. The response I really hate is the type who already knows everything about me. "Oh, you already have many girl here, blah, blah". "You have wife in Philippines, blah, blah. " X.She was late 40's (almost my age), with grown children. Her profile pics on CherryBlossoms showed her as well-dressed and living in a nice home. She had work and no husband, so she was paying the bills. In our first chat she asked for C2 see, so we cammed simultaneously. She was well-dressed on cam and she was in the same kitchen that I saw on her profile pics. She lived north of Cebu city, the place (from the indoor / outdoor pics on Blossoms) appeared to be a ranch, or a home on ranch property. Her profile was a bit odd, as you don't normally see wealthy ladies on dating sites; yet there she was, and she specifically pinged my profile as a playboy (with some good initial pleasantries) just to tell me not to come. I never got the chance to ask her why she was on Blossoms.

Its not that I felt like a heal from her response, because my profile was explicit. However it was a real 'gotcha' moment, as it was an (obviously good) ambush.

SergeantRay

10-02-16, 16:05

We had pleasant introductions and about 5 minutes of pleasantries, what is your work, and so on. Then she hit me with something like this: "Please don't come here. Lovemaking is sacred among Pilipino. We are not like you westerners. Your dollars corrupt our girls and leave unwanted babies that you don't take care of. Please don't come here. If you must come to Philippines, please don't come to Cebu". Wow.This woman is delusional.

This last trip I read a story of a Filipina who was repeatedly raped by her father. He got away with it for so long because he threatened to kill the mother. The last incident of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) occurred during the mother's funeral wake. The daughter then reported him to the police.

How many girls on the dating sites or on Facebook are single mothers by Pinoys?

WestCoast1

10-02-16, 19:39

This woman is delusional.

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How many girls on the dating sites or on Facebook are single mothers by Pinoys?She did not seem delusional. She simply had an opinion. Unfortunately, the conversation was short (5-10 minutes). It was short because, after the initial pleasantries, she hit me with her opinion about sex tourists, then she closed her cam and YM, and we never spoke again.

It would have been easy for me to point out to her the many single-mother pinay, whose pinoy boyfriends ran away, just as you gents have pointed out. But there was no continuation of the conversation. She spoke her mind, then departed. A "drive-by shooting", if you will. I later considered messaging such to her on her dating site profile, but I let it the issue die. No sense arguing with her about her opinion (its like arguing how bad Trump is to a Trump supporter, or telling a Hillary supporter how Hillary's constant smile creeps me out). It never works.

An example of how that would not work with Pilipino is this joke. I've told it before on this board. Its worth a repeat about once a year:

Three guys are sitting in a sports bar drinking. A Mexican, an American, and a Pilipino. Suddenly the basketball game on the TV is interrupted by a newscaster, who announces that a Mexican has been convicted of murder. Conversation:

American: Murder! Throw him in jail for decades! Mexican: Murder! Throw away the key! Execution maybe! Pilipino: Murder! The bible says an eye for an eye! Execute that bastard!

They return to drinking. A bit later the basketball game is again interrupted with another news flash: It seems an American has been convicted of murder. Conversation:

American: Murder! Throw him in jail for decades! Mexican: Murder! Throw away the key! Execution maybe! Pilipino: Murder! The bible says an eye for an eye! Execute that bastard!

They return to drinking. A bit later the basketball game is again interrupted with another news flash: It seems an Filipino has been convicted of murder. Conversation:

American: Murder! Throw him in jail for decades! Mexican: Murder! Throw away the key! Or execute him, right? Pilipino: Murder? Wait. Wait. Can we talk about this? How bad was the murder? Can the guy have a second chance?

Opinon (an analogy): Pinoy are similar to the Star Trek "Borg" (a collective). They see themselves as a separate entity from the rest of humanity, and they are heavily protective of not only each other, but also their culture. Saying as much to that Cebuana would be analogous to trying to teach a pig to sing: It would fail, and it would just annoy the pig.

Amavida

10-02-16, 22:58

Hilarious! She must not have noticed the number of available single or abandoned moms with 100% Pinoy babies in a country without enforced child support. I've read many moralist speeches about familial responsibilities from politicians in the Philippines, but it's strange how there's no legislation to allow establishing paternity through DNA testing. A cynical person might conclude that influential males in the country prefer the status quo.Adittionally there are there any labs here capable of issuing a result that would stand up in court. The poor would have great difficulty ever affording it in the end. One has to ask oneself why this online vigilantism from this woman? Bitter about personal experience of her own or someone close to her? The fact that she invested so much time / energy into this suggests something more, perhaps religious fanatic. If Duterte decides to (foolishly in my opinion) go on a moral crusade against punters it would be through honeypots such as this. In the end everything she says is correct, but she is hypocritical because as you guys say, local guys are far more to blame. The banning of sex education has been a major contributor. To date Duterte, despite his over the top rhetoric has done exactly nothing about progressing the proposed legislation to legalise sexed.

FreebieFan

10-03-16, 03:14

Coincidentally I see more girls put "no sex tourist" and "I'm not your travel companion" in their dating-site profiles. Perhaps she met some fella previously who told her he lives here, she thought there's a chance to groom a boyfriend,

A hotel guest is a short-time visitor such as a tourist. A condo resident is someone who lives here. Of course airbnb has changed this a bit.

The next time you're asked, ask the girl "Is there a difference?Not forgetting that all these girls endlessly copy each others profiles. 2 years back no one used phrases such as " open minded " , now they all have to have it.

The " I'm not your tour guide or bed mate " type lines will last a few months then be replaced by something else.

One I saw a few times recently was " Take me to meet your mom, but not your bed ". Dreadful line to see in a dating site. Hopefully that won't catch on too much.

Amavida

10-03-16, 05:07

Not forgetting that all these girls endlessly copy each others profiles. 2 years back no one used phrases such as " open minded " , now they all have to have it.
All true FF. If anyone wants confirmation of how insincere and robotic it all is just put up a new profile with no picture and no information. 'I want to meet you' replies start flowing into your email box within a day or two LOL!

Wolvenvacht

10-03-16, 07:17

Not forgetting that all these girls endlessly copy each others profiles. 2 years back no one used phrases such as " open minded " , now they all have to have it.

The " I'm not your tour guide or bed mate " type lines will last a few months then be replaced by something else.

One I saw a few times recently was " Take me to meet your mom, but not your bed ". Dreadful line to see in a dating site. Hopefully that won't catch on too much.Maybe we should make some fake female profiles with "Waiting for you with open legs"" or similar.

Who knows? It might catch on!

Red Kilt

10-24-16, 14:28

OK I know the 2 words should not be seen together.

I decided to re-activate my pinalove profile today after some 6 months dormancy.

Search data all set up, with profile specifying my preferences, and set to Manila.

I had around 6 promising "hits", with a chat with 2 women who were very interesting and enthusiastic about meeting me. When I suggested to one of them that we meet for snacks in a nearby mall, I was told "Sorry. I forgot to tell you I am in CDO".

Message from me (paraphrased): 'WTF did you put Manila when you live in CDO?

I got the reply that most foreigners are in Manila so she put Manila to get more interest, and also that "many guys are scammers and don't tell the truth online so I don't want them to know where I really live".

I proceeded to tell her that she was also "scamming" me when she was making out that she was in Manila and hers was a fake post. She could not understand my point. I then blocked her.

Move on to the second promising one and exactly the same scenario. This one said she lives in Manila but is actually in Bacolod, and gave the same reasons for the fake location. I blocked her too.

Lesson learned. When you start chatting to anyone online, ask them immediately where they actually live despite their location appearing on their profile. If they lie about that, then most likely other stuff is also probably fake.

Member #4558

10-24-16, 15:50

OK I know the 2 words should not be seen together..Its pointless but me as well have given lessons to pinays stating "manila" in their profiles though they sit in some distant nipa hut somewhere with connection. Since I have some girls also contacting me I did the trick to lower girls from uninteresting places to do so and I simply put "I am interested in Manila girls living in Manila only" either in profile headline or at the very top of the text. Seemed to help a tad but not totally.

Moving further regarding the logic / pinay I also in my profiles state I won't nothing to do with hookers or prostitutes (chill folks I just want to come forward as a nice guy, nothing else). Then when you start communicating with a girl the following can occur:

Her: bla bla bla I am happy you don't like prostitutes, you seem like a nice guy.

Me: bla bla bla yes I am. Do you want to meet me later for some nice time.

Her: yes but if you want sex you pay me 3000 php right.

Me: bla bla bla but you are not a prostitute right?

Her: hehe no I am not I am a decent girl of course.

Me: but like a prostitute you want money for sex?

Her: what you mean.

Me: (elaborate and repeat the obvious).

Her: I never do sex for money.

Me: but you want 3000 php for sex right.

Her: hehe yes.

Me: block block.

Not an actual word for word correct convo but the main point isn't very logic right?.

Mr Enternational

10-24-16, 21:24

Exactly RK. This goes for anywhere in the world. Ask them what city they live in. After they answer ask them what part of xyz city.

FreebieFan

10-25-16, 02:27

Sammon

10-25-16, 03:11

I had moderate success in DIA last visit. 3 in Manila, 2 in Cebu, 1 in Angeles with 2 repeats.

I had 3 ready to be with me but did not have time because I wanted to repeat two girls because good GFE service.

Only mistake I made is keeping one girl in Cebu for three days. She became quite clingy. Kept on messaging me crazy things like I love you, I am falling in love with you etc even after I left Cebu. Because I did not reply hoping that she would think I left the country she even texted me that she is in hospital and if I could call her. Sure enough after couple of hours another message saying not to worry and she is fine but would love to talk to me.

Rest of the girls knew the deal. Just fun only and they were nice.

In Manila one girl came from 3 hours away. Angeles girl who I thought was a non bargirl was actually working in a bar before. Then according to her became a Korean guys girlfriend and now working in a Korean owned hotel. Nice sexy girl.

All others were regular girls with jobs.

4 girls who promised to be with me for fun changed their minds or put extra restrictions. One wanted to meet me at the mall with her friend first. Another would only come for two hours. I am a LT guy. Third one failed to show up at the airport although everything was arranged through skype. Fourth one was not available for some reason on the day I was free.

But overall I would still stick with dating site girls because of GFE service and good company they provide. Happy with whatever money and gifts I give.

SergeantRay

10-25-16, 03:27

...Lesson learned. When you start chatting to anyone online, ask them immediately where they actually live despite their location appearing on their profile. If they lie about that, then most likely other stuff is also probably fake.Some girls are from Bohol, say, with family there that they visit as they are able to, but are currently working in another location, like Cebu City.

Drukyul2000

10-26-16, 21:53

Lesson learned. When you start chatting to anyone online, ask them immediately where they actually live despite their location appearing on their profile. If they lie about that, then most likely other stuff is also probably fake.Interesting information, so these 6 Hits where they in a day? I have close to 35 contacts in Manila and faced this issue only with two where they wrote location as Manila but where from elsewhere, I kept the details since both look pretty hot and promising, I might get in touch with them on a rainy day and see how it goes.

Red Kilt

10-27-16, 03:49

Interesting information, so these 6 Hits where they in a day? I have close to 35 contacts in Manila and faced this issue only with two where they wrote location as Manila but where from elsewhere, I kept the details since both look pretty hot and promising, I might get in touch with them on a rainy day and see how it goes.You won't manage 35 contacts very well.

Way too many, as every one of them has an agenda of some sort and they all have memories like steel traps so good luck with managing that list.

Are you in Manila now? The most "sure-fire" way to have success on dating sites is to contact them when you are actually in the Philippines. They will be enthusiastic then.

Many girls in my acquaintance are fed-up chatting to guys who are still overseas but who "promise" they are coming "soon" but never actually show up.

One of my best contacts makes it a rule now never to chat with any guy who is not actually in the Phils. Her reason? Too much bullsh.

Drukyul2000

10-27-16, 22:00

You won't manage 35 contacts very well.

Way too many, as every one of them has an agenda of some sort and they all have memories like steel traps so good luck with managing that list.

Are you in Manila now? The most "sure-fire" way to have success on dating sites is to contact them when you are ACTUALLY IN THE PHILIPPINES. They will be enthusiastic then.

Many girls in my acquaintance are fed-up chatting to guys who are still overseas but who "promise" they are coming "soon" but never actaully show up.

One of my best contacts makes it a rule now never to chat with any guy who is not actually in the Phils. Her reason? Too much bullsh.You might just be right, no I am not yet in the Philippines because my trip got delayed due unforeseen circumstances and I have lost touch with many of them. Although few (and good ones) have kept in touch but I have lost interest and not kept in touch. I agree it's better to make contacts once you are in, I have learned that. I actually have instances where women have initiated the communication, given their numbers but next day stopped replying, weird!!

My point was I will get in touch with them once I am in the country and hopefully out of 35,5 will be a success rate.

X Man

10-28-16, 01:21

Sometimes I'm surprised by the number of online gals who post pictures of themselves in the bedroom or even on the bed. I suppose there are a lot of reasons for this.

Just found on this morning that certainly looks frisky. Profile says Manila, but I recognize the swimming pool as AC territory. SHe has a nice bikini pic and of course the bedroom pic.

Red Kilt

10-28-16, 03:25

Sometimes I'm surprised by the number of online gals who post pictures of themselves in the bedroom or even on the bed. I suppose there are a lot of reasons for this.
Many reasons X.

One is that many live in one or 2-room dwellings so the bedroom is often less cluttered than the other room so it makes a better photo op.

Another alternative is that many Filipinos do not sleep on a bed (as we know it) when they are "home" so when they get the opportunity to recline on a genuine one they must record it for posterity and show it to all and sundry.

Hutsori

10-28-16, 07:08

Roll Aides

11-03-16, 08:16

I like the contrast photos where half are in cinder-block shanty (can no builder lay mortar correctly?) and the others on a 5-star hotel's bed.I spit my tanduay out. For sure.

Red Kilt

11-16-16, 13:49

Mostly positive stories, and some tales will ring some bells for some guys.

Lots of filipina stories, but a few other races thrown in too.

http://www.knowable.com/a/stories-of-people-who-actually-went-through-with-a-mail-order-bride/p-1

Dg8787

11-16-16, 16:45

Red Kilt

11-17-16, 01:10

A very high success rate here. Certainly not like the stories and warnings posted here.Probably cherry-picked for the article Dg but a few failures in there too.

I know several very sad tales (for the guy) and some equally sad tales (for the girl) from my previous life. When these things go belly-up it is usually a train-wreck, but as this article shows, there are some happy endings too.

Dg8787

11-17-16, 01:38

Wicked Roger

11-17-16, 03:52

Probably cherry-picked for the article Dg but a few failures in there too.

I know several very sad tales (for the guy) and some equally sad tales (for the girl) from my previous life. When these things go belly-up it is usually a train-wreck, but as this article shows, there are some happy endings too.And this one is a very bad one that was highlighted on UK TV. The only surprise in this IMHO is the fact it only took 2-3 years to convict the suspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vABOFleXLJQ

It is 40+ minutes long so if interested but can't / don't want to see the entire video read this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-404560/A-mothers-revenge-murder-son.html

But equally I know many who are happy and contented being married to pinays (and / or visiting Sogos with cuties from time to time LOL. Well we are normal guys?

Mr Enternational

11-17-16, 13:37

When you are choosing a mate it is smart to choose one who will be an asset. The problem is that most of the people who are picking a foreign mate are taking on a liabililty. When they wake up and realize that, that is when the train wreck starts.

I am not much for TV, but the show 90-day Fiance is hilarious to me. Ugly fat old chicks who import young handsome guys. Older square thrice-divorced guys who import young sexy chicks who refuse to lie by telling them that they love them. A young chick without a pot to whizz in importing a guy and trying to get him to sign a prenuptial agreement. What is she afraid they are going to break up and he is going to want her clock radio in the divorce? You can't make that shit up.

Chocha Monger

11-17-16, 13:48

I don't think there is any agency keeping track of how many Filipina woman / foreign man marriages that end on a good or bad note. However, there are enough stories out there to warrant caution in entering these marriages. What is known about Filipino culture and habits should give anyone pause when it comes to entering a legally enforceable marriage contract with assets on the line. It is reasonable to assume the same characteristics that make them easily accessible short-term sex partners also make them terrible risks as long-term partners in marriage.

I personally know of at least three cases where foreigners married Filipina women and it went bad. In the first case, the girl was from an upper middle class family. She admits that the divorce was her fault because once she got to America she started cheating on her husband. What is young Kampapanga spinner supposed to do when she suddenly finds a buffet of young hard American cock? She gave into her weaknesses as a pinay of course. The marriage did not last two years so she did not get permanent residency, but she did get alimony and half her husband's assets. After her deportation back to the Philippines she became the proud owner of a profitable bed & breakfast catering to foreigners.

In the second case, the pinay was a bar girl. She also could not resist the sausage buffet in America and gave in to adulterous desires. She also failed to make the two year requirement for USA Permanent residency. She now works as a mamasan in a bar after being deported back to the Philippines.

In the third case, the girl married on her 18th birthday to an elderly American who had been grooming her under her aunt's supervision over a few years. She was caught cheating by her husband and beaten. The marriage did not last two years but she was able to use the beating to qualify for the domestic violence loophole that allowed her to self-petition for USA Permanent residence. She now works as a housekeeper in various hotels and she still trolls online dating sites.

None of these women expressed any shame in their actions but they all said they regretted the end of their marriages, even the one who was beaten for cheating.

I also know of marriages where Filipina women have cheated and their American husbands are unaware of this. I am not sure I would call those happy marriages although many say that ignorance is bliss.