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Wicked Roger
01-18-19, 18:24
I got a msg in PL to add this chick in her skype.

I did.

She started talking about fun in cam.

Then she said to show her and she call me.

In cam she started to undress.

But her typing didn't match her movements.

She keep saying to show her.

I told her to stop she was gong too fast.

She totaly became nude and started to masturbate.Well known scam has caught many a naughty boy who does show his todger and then gets a message saying pay cash or the whole family and friends see what he did. I think one lot were from Africa. The BBC had a very good article on this some time back also.

PedroMorales
01-18-19, 18:27
But I couldn't figure out how she can type while her hands and fingers were occupied in exploring her holes. I never showed her bcause I thought it was some kind of blackmail scam.

So I hang up and block her. What you guys think?There have been awful cases of teenagers being bribed over crap like this and killing themselves after the stuff was posted on FB. There was programs available to have pretty women jerking off, a good thing for scam artists to get. Women don't usually initiative such stuff anyhow.

Nice Guy 99
01-18-19, 19:56
In cam she started to undress.

But her typing didn't match her movements.

She keep saying to show her.

I told her to stop she was gong too fast.

She totaly became nude and started to masturbate.

But I couldn't figure out how she can type while her hands and fingers were occupied in exploring her holes.

So I hang up and block her.

What you guys think?Correct decision. May well be some guy showing a vid, since "she" couldn't slow down, as a precursor to a blackmail scam.

Member #1088
01-18-19, 20:24
Correct decision. May well be some guy showing a vid, since "she" couldn't slow down, as a precursor to a blackmail scam.I got specially worry when I got asked for my fb, instagram, twitter, etc.

How many family member, the city, etc.

Mr Enternational
01-18-19, 21:02
I got specially worry when I got asked for my fb, instagram, twitter, etc.

How many family member, the city, etc.To this I would have said you are asking too many questions. But of course we know there are a countless number of pussiless horny guys that will jump at whatever is thrown in front of them.

Member #1088
01-18-19, 23:37
To this I would have said you are asking too many questions. But of course we know there are a countless number of pussiless horny guys that will jump at whatever is thrown in front of them.Yes, you are right.

BTW her account got closed when I went back to report it, so I guess someone else reported it.

Member #1088
01-19-19, 01:03
Now I got kick off from fb and pl.

Hum getting tired of having to open new accounts.

Goferring
01-19-19, 01:31
Now I got kick off from fb and pl.

Hum getting tired of having to open new accounts.DIA is notorious for banning but Pila Love?

You must have been reported by a good girl you thought was otherwise. I've asked for BB Anal for 3000 p before with out incident.

By fb did you mean Facebook or is it a typo for Cupid?

Member #1088
01-19-19, 01:40
DIA is notorious for banning but Pila Love?

You must have been reported by a good girl you thought was otherwise. I've asked for BB Anal for 3000 p before with out incident.

By fb did you mean Facebook or is it a typo for Cupid?PL, yes I think I know the one, she got mad when I said no to 180 dollars for seeing in her underwear.

I told her she was over priced.

Fb=facebook, yes, that is the one I told her she was overprice.

Fun Times69
01-23-19, 08:02
I got a msg in PL to add this chick in her skype.

I did.

She started talking about fun in cam.

Then she said to show her and she call me.

In cam she started to undress.

But her typing didn't match her movements.

She keep saying to show her.

I told her to stop she was gong too fast.

She totaly became nude and started to masturbate.

But I couldn't figure out how she can type while her hands and fingers were occupied in exploring her holes.

I never showed her bcause I thought it was some kind of blackmail scam.

So I hang up and block her.

What you guys think?I've had a similar experience. PL is full to the brim with scammers but amongst them are plenty of decent prospects of all types, from those seeking arrangements to others looking for love.

Something that I've started using is "reverse image search". It enables you to identify the profiles that have pictures that can be found around the web. Sometimes scammers use pictures of lesser known models or from escorting websites. You can quickly check before you chat to someone. I used it recently to check someone ticking all the boxes only to find out her pictures were of a Filipina adult model called Nika Madrid. Here's an example below of the profile picture followed by the Instagram page she/he stole it from. I didn't get angry with her/him just moved on before I invested any further time in them.

Very useful tool. A screenshot of the page I use on my smartphone is enclosed but Google will have plenty of options if you search.

Member #1088
01-23-19, 15:53
I've had a similar experience. PL is full to the brim with scammers but amongst them are plenty of decent prospects of all types, from those seeking arrangements to others looking for love.

Something that I've started using is "reverse image search". It enables you to identify the profiles that have pictures that can be found around the web. Sometimes scammers use pictures of lesser known models or from escorting websites. You can quickly check before you chat to someone. I used it recently to check someone ticking all the boxes only to find out her pictures were of a Filipina adult model called Nika Madrid. Here's an example below of the profile picture followed by the Instagram page she/he stole it from. I didn't get angry with her/him just moved on before I invested any further time in them.

Very useful tool. A screenshot of the page I use on my smartphone is enclosed but Google will have plenty of options if you search.Interesting tool, did you report it?

Member #1088
01-23-19, 17:09
Interesting tool, did you report it?I mean did you report the scammer?

Kabul Guy
01-23-19, 22:54
....
Something that I've started using is "reverse image search". It enables you to identify the profiles that have pictures that can be found around the web. Sometimes scammers use pictures of lesser known models or from escorting websites. You can quickly check before you chat to someone. ......I will use the search function in Google as well as tineye.com to get the most coverage if at all suspicious.

Fun Times69
01-25-19, 13:42
I mean did you report the scammer?Yes, absolutely. Everytime I find fake photos straight away I report them. Whichever site people use to check photos they're not sure of its a great tool to help us all make informed choices when chatting online. Kabul Guy has mentioned the ones her prefers, a google search will help you find whichever one works best for you.

Member #1088
01-25-19, 18:45
Hey fellow mongers.

What do you think are the best topics for conversation between shoots?

I would say depends on the girl.

If the girl is a semi-pro, I like to ask about how they got deflower.

Got some interesting answers in addition to generic ones like my ex.

Most of them gave them up to the BF they loved.

A small percentage sold it.

Some lost it while self exploring. (What a waste)

Few with BF finger. (1/2 waste)

Sometimes this put them into an ease mood and they are more willing to do pics or letting mr p explore the back entrance.

Same experiences or other ideas for conversation?

Mr Enternational
01-25-19, 20:44
Hey fellow mongers.

What do you think are the best topics for conversation between shoots?I have girlfriends to talk to. I pay hookers not to talk.

Member #1088
01-25-19, 20:55
I have girlfriends to talk to. I pay hookers not to talk.So what do you do between shoots, watch tv? Drink? Play with her boobs? All of the above? Remember i was referring to semi-pro

Mr Enternational
01-25-19, 22:52
So what do you do between shoots, watch tv? Drink? Play with her boobs? All of the above? Remember i was referring to semi-proWhat is a semi-pro? For me there are 2 types of chicks. The ones that I give money to (pro, prostitute) and the ones that I do not (non-pro, not a prostitute). I don't deal with grey areas like well she only does it on the weekends. If I build houses only on the weekend am I a semi-carpenter?

If I take a hooker for long time then it is at night. So I fuck her before I go to sleep, sleep, wake up and fuck her again (or not) then she leaves. If I take a hooker during the daytime then 9.9 times out of 10 it is only short time. I don't really get a hooker and try to hang out with her during the day.

I meet plenty of normal chicks so I am not getting them for their company. And depending on where I am, I have to try squeeze in the hookers somewhere because I have the company of so many chicks that are not hookers. For instance I am in Brazil now and this hooker wants to come over for $40, but I have a chick that is not a hooker on the way. No idea how long I am going to be with this chick, but I am supposed to get together with another normal chick at 11 pm and it is almost 8 pm now.

*Pic is the hooker that wants to come.

Goferring
01-25-19, 22:55
So what do you do between shoots, watch tv? Drink? Play with her boobs? All of the above? Remember i was referring to semi-proHow do you pry her cell phone out of her hands long enough to do any of that?

Member #1088
01-26-19, 00:06
What is a semi-pro? For me there are 2 types of chicks. The ones that I give money to (pro, prostitute) and the ones that I do not (non-pro, not a prostitute). I don't deal with grey areas like well she only does it on the weekends. If I build houses only on the weekend am I a semi-carpenter?

If I take a hooker for long time then it is at night. So I fuck her before I go to sleep, sleep, wake up and fuck her again (or not) then she leaves. If I take a hooker during the daytime then 9.9 times out of 10 it is only short time. I don't really get a hooker and try to hang out with her during the day.

I meet plenty of normal chicks so I am not getting them for their company. And depending on where I am, I have to try squeeze in the hookers somewhere because I have the company of so many chicks that are not hookers. For instance I am in Brazil now and this hooker wants to come over for $40, but I have a chick that is not a hooker on the way. No idea how long I am going to be with this chick, but I am supposed to get together with another normal chick at 11 pm and it is almost 8 pm now.

*Pic is the hooker that wants to come.LOL What are you doing writing in here, do the hooker, then go to the normal one and keep her for the night LOL.

Sammon
01-26-19, 01:13
What is a semi-pro? For me there are 2 types of chicks. The ones that I give money to (pro, prostitute) and the ones that I do not (non-pro, not a prostitute). I don't deal with grey areas like well she only does it on the weekends. If I build houses only on the weekend am I a semi-carpenter?
There are pros who prostitute all the time to make a living. There are semi pros who will prostitute to earn money when the need comes like tution, buy clothes or whatever the temporary need maybe. There are non pros who are just for dating where no discussion is made as to payment for sex.

All these categories are interchangeable for whatever reason. Even the pros will get a good job and become semi pros or non pros. Like wise other categories can change as the need comes. Even Cleopatra sold her services for personal gains.

For us mongers who meet girls outside of brothels there is no way to tell what category the girl is. Even if the girl works in a brothel we will not know. So in outer mind she becomes semi pro, while in reality she is is a pro. Even a girl you think is a non pro is suspect. Is your brain scrambled yet?

Just find play, fuck, spend money, enjoy, forget or keep without worrying what category!

Goferring
01-26-19, 03:48
There are pros who prostitute all the time to make a living. There are semi pros who will prostitute to earn money when the need comes like tution, buy clothes or whatever the temporary need maybe. There are non pros who are just for dating where no discussion is made as to payment for sex.And there are also mongers who, even when offered a freebie, prefer to keep the encounter on a professional level so that there is no implication of an ongoing romance.

The Cane
01-26-19, 07:57
And there are also mongers who, even when offered a freebie, prefer to keep the encounter on a professional level so that there is no implication of an ongoing romance.Yeah, that's me! And I'm already feeling a little cautious about one I did the nasty with out of PlanB in Manila. She is a very pretty girl, otherwise I would not have barfined her. Took her out of the club and we spent LT together.

First she had not eaten, so we went out to eat. That is one thing I have found out about these Filipina girls. Many of them have not eaten and are hungry! So we ate, then back to the room for the usual. No need to go into all the details, but I guess maybe I set myself up some. While thrusting it home on her I told her how beautiful she was and how good her Filipina pussy made my American dick feel hahaha! I asked her if she liked that American dick LOL! Just going "gonzo". So anyway, before she finally left we exchanged contact info and all.

Now I hear from the girl every single day several times a day with "how are you" and kissy face emojis. She says she "wait for me" and wants to see me again, then said (allegedly joking according to her) that maybe next time "we travel together". I don't think it was just a joke as she is from Luzon and has been nowhere else in The PI, let alone outside the country. I think she would be thrilled to have the opportunity to travel somewhere. Anywhere!

I certainly don't have anything against the girl, but I am looking for "transactional fucking" and that's it. I figure maybe if I blow her off before returning to Manila she will get the signal. But based on past experience probably not LOL! She says she likes chatting with me and wants to know if I like chatting with her too. Sure, but no interest in anything romantic or any arrangement that looks anything like settling for one girl, even if just for a few days.

I do intend to go back to PlanB, but this girl would actually be my PlanC ha! Not that she isn't hot or desirable, but I want to try some different pussy! That's PlanA LOL! I want to try some new pussy. No need to explain that to anybody here. And "PlanB", if I were to repeat with anybody, would be the first girl I pulled out of there who was a better fuck. Took a serious pounding and couldn't get enough slapping my ass for more! Liked that pussy being munched too. When I nut in her she didn't want me to pull out when I was done and wrapped her arms and legs around me to keep me in where we both "lingered" against one another (twice). Anyway, I digress!

So, now I wonder how the girl who is kinda liking on me is going to react when I choose somebody else and not her? Maybe she will unfriend me ha! I saw girl number one's reaction (the one who was the better fuck) when I picked somebody else. She just kind of kept looking over at me with this blank stare. You're PlanB baby, you're PlanB. PlanA is some new pussy! LOLOLOL! In the meantime maybe the "shorty" who keeps messaging me is just being nice, but I sort of doubt It. I always assume ulterior motives until proven otherwise.

Chocha Monger
01-26-19, 19:37
Yeah, that's me! And I'm already feeling a little cautious about one I did the nasty with out of PlanB in Manila. She is a very pretty girl, otherwise I would not have barfined her. Took her out of the club and we spent LT together.

First she had not eaten, so we went out to eat. That is one thing I have found out about these Filipina girls. Many of them have not eaten and are hungry! So we ate, then back to the room for the usual. No need to go into all the details, but I guess maybe I set myself up some. While thrusting it home on her I told her how beautiful she was and how good her Filipina pussy made my American dick feel hahaha! I asked her if she liked that American dick LOL! Just going "gonzo". So anyway, before she finally left we exchanged contact info and all.

Now I hear from the girl every single day several times a day with "how are you" and kissy face emojis. She says she "wait for me" and wants to see me again, then said (allegedly joking according to her) that maybe next time "we travel together". I don't think it was just a joke as she is from Luzon and has been nowhere else in The PI, let alone outside the country. I think she would be thrilled to have the opportunity to travel somewhere. Anywhere!.It may end in a bar girl brawl for possession of the cane. The girls can be very territorial if they get it in their heads that you are a big fish and lotto ticket to the good life. Getting your contacts and messaging you each day is part of her job to land sponsors. You are not the only one who she is trying to hook. The fucking is transactional for you, and for her, the ongoing chatting is part of the game to get into your wallet on a longer basis. There is always an ulterior motive when a sweet hooker tries to give you the soft sell into a relationship. LOL! You can avoid it in the future by declining her request for your contact info. Just tell her you can find her in PlanB again if you need to fuck PlanC because Plan A did not work out.

Goferring
01-26-19, 23:32
You can avoid it in the future by declining her request for your contact info. Just tell her you can find her in PlanB again if you need to fuck PlanC because Plan A did not work out.If she's good fun, no need to cut her off by blocking her number or walking past her and fucking her best friend in the bar.

It's not rocket science here. Just tell her she's great but your relationship is not BF / GF. No need to say what it is just that it's not an ongoing romance.

My favourite when she starts mentioning undying love is to say "you know this is not BF / GF, yeah? You're ok with that?" That's polite enough not to loose her contact, should you want to go back, and reinforces that there is no need for mind games.

Enjoy, G.

The Cane
01-26-19, 23:48
It may end in a bar girl brawl for possession of The Cane. The girls can be very territorial if they get it in their heads that you are a big fish and lotto ticket to the good life. Getting your contacts and messaging you each day is part of her job to land sponsors. You can avoid it in the future by declining her request for your contact info. Just tell her you can find her in PlanB again if you need to fuck PlanC because Plan A did not work out.I asked her if she knew the other girl just to see how she would react (didn't tell her I bar fined her). She did not respond to the question LOL! The only one of my messages she has not responded to. Ha! She wrote to me again this morning. I think I just won't reply anymore. The next time she will hear from me is when she sees me in PlanB again. Getting ready to fuck her best friend! Hey, don't get mad at me! You know what they say. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Hahaha! It's interesting about the contact info. She was insistent on getting it before leaving. Like you said, she must "develop" sponsors.

Mr Enternational
01-27-19, 00:04
She says she "wait for me" and wants to see me again, then said (allegedly joking according to her) that maybe next time "we travel together". I don't think it was just a joke Man women are full of shit. The other day this chick asked me to borrow $200. When I said no she said she was just joking. If I had said yes you think she would have still said it was a joke?

Goferring
01-27-19, 00:31
Man women are full of shit. The other day this chick asked me to borrow $200. When I said no she said she was just joking. If I had said yes you think she would have still said it was a joke?I'm constantly amazed by how the girls will try their luck with little expectation of success.

I guess they must get enough suckers to keep rolling the dice regardless of the long odds.

Chocha Monger
01-27-19, 00:56
Man women are full of shit. The other day this chick asked me to borrow $200. When I said no she said she was just joking. If I had said yes you think she would have still said it was a joke?They certainly are full of it. Recently, one told me that since I used to fuck her best friend who borrowed money from her and never repaid, I should take it upon myself to repay the debt seeing how her friend was my ex-girlfriend. Well, I offered her the opportunity to earn the money herself and she got mad. LOL! At that point, I told her fuck her feelings and fuck off! Even the non-bar hoes are bold when it comes to making a run for your wallet.

Dg8787
01-27-19, 03:34
Man women are full of shit. The other day this chick asked me to borrow $200. When I said no she said she was just joking. If I had said yes you think she would have still said it was a joke?Of course she was joking! Everyone knows you are the slam bam 1 k to you ma'am guy. If you had said yes, she would have had a heart attack along with 99% of us.

Mr Enternational
01-27-19, 04:34
Of course she was joking! Everyone knows you are the slam bam 1 k to you ma'am guy. If you had said yes, she would have had a heart attack along with 99% of us.LOL. This chick was not a hooker though. So she knows nothing about my 1 K habits. She knows about my 0 habits!

Engine Driver
01-27-19, 04:35
I'm constantly amazed by how the girls will try their luck with little expectation of success.

I guess they must get enough suckers to keep rolling the dice regardless of the long odds.It's just a numbers game, which they play very well. They might not have gone to school, but know how to apply probability theory in real life. If they hit up 20 guys a week for money and one sucker sends $100, then that's a great outcome for a few minutes work. If they can get $100 each week, then that's 20,000 PHP a month, which is a lot more than the average wage. I would say most girls have received or are receiving money from a foreign sponsor, even though it might only be a few dollars ad hoc. Every street smart WG with a smart phone will have hundreds of foreigners in her contact list. Just ask to see it next time. Most will proudly show you. Good luck to them. Their survival skills are way better than those of most western women.

We also play the numbers game. For every outright rejection we get at the bar, or for every girl who's suddenly "got her period" when we go to barfine, there's 20 of them who will drop their panties for $60.

X Man
01-27-19, 05:04
Many years ago I pulled a real hotty out of an EDSA bar. She stayed with me several days, missing work. The GFE was really working its charm on me. Fortunately, I had a plane to catch.

The next time in Philippines I texted her. I was in Cebu but was scheduled to be in Manila the next week. She tells me she's in Manila but has a flight the next day to Cebu. Lucky me. She's from Cebu, BTW.

Turns out she was no longer in the bar, but had flown Cebu to Manila to meet a guy. We can assume he bought the ticket. Oh, and she also was engaged to marry some guy who had recently returned to the US. She spent the night with me and I got to have my way with some guy's fiance. Nevertheless, the GFE wasn't there and then she declined a trip to Bohol with me. I was a bit sad, but realized that she'd hooked a big fish and had no reason to pretend (with me) anymore.

We kept in touch for a while and she was working in a fast food joint in the US. She complained that her husband kept their money in a joint account and she wanted her money to be separate. I guess she was already planning the split. Poor guy.


Yeah, that's me! And I'm already feeling a little cautious about one I did the nasty with out of PlanB in Manila. She is a very pretty girl, otherwise I would not have barfined her. Took her out of the club and we spent LT together.

SNIP>

In the meantime maybe the "shorty" who keeps messaging me is just being nice, but I sort of doubt It. I always assume ulterior motives until proven otherwise.

Breadman
01-27-19, 18:08
With PinaLove, DatingInAsia, FilipinoCupid and Tinder what's the best option to hook up with some of these girls? Am I missing any websites? What's the procedure upon touching down, send out a bunch of messages to various girls and see which one's reply?

Albert9989
01-27-19, 18:20
With PinaLove, DatingInAsia, FilipinoCupid and Tinder what's the best option to hook up with some of these girls? Am I missing any websites? What's the procedure upon touching down, send out a bunch of messages to various girls and see which one's reply?For me, mainly with DIA, I just do a search based on some criterias, location and age mainly, then for every I like I just send Hi.

And I wait to see what comes back.

Usually a Hi, then how are you, etc. And just see what follows.

And when you say I am here in makati or manila, then more answers are coming.

One important thing is to say quickly that you are not here for long term relation, and amongst 10 or 20 Hi, you will see that some are continuing exchanges.

But there will be all sort of scams, to be discarded, and a few gems will appear in the middle of alll chats. Ask for messenger or other chat tools in order to go out of DIA ASAP.

It works also quite well from home, but goal is different, not for immediate meeting, but for longer chats on messenger usually, and at the end having meeting when you come to the country. More difficult but good result also as you can know more about the girl.

I use also fdating, some good contacts came fromp here too.

Breadman
01-27-19, 18:36
But there will be all sort of scams, to be discarded, and a few gems will appear in the middle of alll chats. Ask for messenger or other chat tools in order to go out of DIA ASAP.
On PinaLove I've run across girls that have their WeChat or Whatsapp numbers listed and have to say most of the time my app can't find their contact. Wonder if its due to my location or just the app itself. Should I put their number into my phone in order for those apps to work? I really prefer LINE, so much easier to find the girls on that app when they give out their ID. One girl even sent a screenshot of her QR code which let me scan it off my laptop screen. Do girls use LINE in the Philippines?

PedroMorales
01-27-19, 18:37
It may end in a bar girl brawl for possession of the cane. The girls can be very territorial if they get it in their heads that you are a big fish and lotto ticket to the good life. Getting your contacts and messaging you each day is part of her job to land sponsors. You are not the only one who she is trying to hook. The fucking is transactional for you, and for her, the ongoing chatting is part of the game to get into your wallet on a longer basis. There is always an ulterior motive when a sweet hooker tries to give you the soft sell into a relationship. LOL! You can avoid it in the future by declining her request for your contact info. Just tell her you can find her in PlanB again if you need to fuck PlanC because Plan A did not work out.You guys who give out digits, even of a throw away SIM. Do they not pester you for hook ups with texts etc?

Albert9989
01-27-19, 18:50
On PinaLove I've run across girls that have their WeChat or Whatsapp numbers listed and have to say most of the time my app can't find their contact. Wonder if its due to my location or just the app itself. Should I put their number into my phone in order for those apps to work? I really prefer LINE, so much easier to find the girls on that app when they give out their ID. One girl even sent a screenshot of her QR code which let me scan it off my laptop screen. Do girls use LINE in the Philippines?Usually they ask for messenger or whatsapp / imo, messenger only needs a facebook ID, but Whatsapp / imo needs to enter their phone in your contacts, very rarely seen line, or almost never may be. For phil.

The Cane
01-27-19, 19:01
Usually they ask for messenger or whatsapp / imo, messenger only needs a facebook ID, but Whatsapp / imo needs to enter their phone in your contacts, very rarely seen line, or almost never may be. For phil.The girl I have been chatting with has both LINE and WhatsApp. The issue was that she didn't seem to be able to use the apps very well. The knowledge was not there. Especially for WhatsApp. Well, she seems to have figured it out. Have to hook those sponsors!

Goferring
01-27-19, 23:49
With PinaLove, DatingInAsia, FilipinoCupid and Tinder what's the best option to hook up with some of these girls? Am I missing any websites? What's the procedure upon touching down, send out a bunch of messages to various girls and see which one's reply?DIA, Pina love and Fil Cupid cover 99% of the market. Tinder can also be good in the larger cities for contacting hard core hookers.

Whatsapp is the most popular messenger, followed by Viber. Both don't have their own address book but rely on the Contact list in your phone. That's why you need to add any new numbers in your contacts before either will recognise them.

Note that a side benefit of having both is that they tend to have recent profile pics. These can be used as a cross reference against the chat room pics, which can be very flattering.

Girls change numbers all the time so it's not surprising that any included in chat room profiles years ago may have long since died.

Enjoy, G.

FYI:


What do you want?

Hard core hookers after hours? Tinder.

General, younger freelancers? PinaLove.

Employed or "good" girls to fuck on a second date? Cupid.

Obviously a gross simplification, but you get the idea.


Option 1:
.......

Option 2:


I'm currently in Subic having a lot of good fortune with PinaLove and FilippinoCupid.

I questioned a PL girl about how she uses the dating software, her impressions of the guys she comes across and what she found as a turn off / attractive when replying to messages.

......

Member #1088
01-28-19, 22:20
Hey bros.

DIA has a new search feature that let you search by keyword, you can make that search even if you are not a member, therefore, I got to search for skype keyword in the search and then by magic all the profiles that can be read without being a member. Of course not all of them have theiir skype there, just the word skype but 20% or so have it, so got a lot of leads to contact.

Sammon
01-29-19, 02:18
Usually they ask for messenger or whatsapp / imo, messenger only needs a facebook ID, but Whatsapp / imo needs to enter their phone in your contacts, very rarely seen line, or almost never may be. For phil.The problem is even if you get them on Skype, viber, WhatsApp, IMO, messenger they are not reachable readily. They need to pay for internet access either on phone or cafe. Home wi fi and hotspots are almost never heard of. Even in Starbucks need to pay for access. Whenever they have extra money they just check if you are online but never leave a message. They give phone numbers but not reachable because of no load they claim.

So even if you message back and forth there is no guarantee you will be able to reach her once you land. Hard to pre plan all the time.

Red Kilt
01-29-19, 02:53
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/facebook-plans-to-merge-whatsapp-messenger-and-instagram-what-does-this-mean-for-you/?fbclid=IwAR0lWAnjf1eci3VULjFFsDBmBoZdnV4vgUjS99Qw44POMvJXBXpEZMUrMV8

My concern is with this paragraph:
"There is also the matter of different registration requirements when it comes to different apps. You need your Facebook identity for messenger, an email for Instagram, and your phone number for WhatsApp. There are clear concerns how the metadata from the future interactions between users across the platform will be used by Facebook. Some people might not want to have their identities across these platforms unified and would rather opt out. It is unclear at this time what guarantees will be put in place to address these concerns".

Chocha Monger
01-29-19, 03:37
I asked her if she knew the other girl just to see how she would react (didn't tell her I bar fined her). She did not respond to the question LOL! The only one of my messages she has not responded to. Ha! She wrote to me again this morning. I think I just won't reply anymore. The next time she will hear from me is when she sees me in PlanB again. Getting ready to fuck her best friend! Hey, don't get mad at me! You know what they say. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Hahaha! It's interesting about the contact info. She was insistent on getting it before leaving. Like you said, she must "develop" sponsors.There are no secrets in the bar. The fact that she did not respond to your question about knowing the other girl means that she knows that you already fucked the competition. LOL! The best part of fucking bar girls is walking past them on the way out the door to fuck their best friend in all her holes. It lets them know that you are not falling for their shit. LOL! Let her see that the cane intends to fuck every hot girl in PlanB without repeating any holes!

Kabul Guy
01-29-19, 06:29
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/facebook-plans-to-merge-whatsapp-messenger-and-instagram-what-does-this-mean-for-you/?fbclid=IwAR0lWAnjf1eci3VULjFFsDBmBoZdnV4vgUjS99Qw44POMvJXBXpEZMUrMV8

My concern is with this paragraph:
"There is also the matter of different registration requirements when it comes to different apps. You need your Facebook identity for messenger, an email for Instagram, and your phone number for WhatsApp. There are clear concerns how the metadata from the future interactions between users across the platform will be used by Facebook. Some people might not want to have their identities across these platforms unified and would rather opt out. It is unclear at this time what guarantees will be put in place to address these concerns".Big Brother is now Big Data and he is watching.

As computing power continues to increase sooner or later someone will be able to, in real time or only with a few second delay, be able to track everything you have done are doing and plan to do.

Breadman
01-29-19, 16:01
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/facebook-plans-to-merge-whatsapp-messenger-and-instagram-what-does-this-mean-for-you/?fbclid=IwAR0lWAnjf1eci3VULjFFsDBmBoZdnV4vgUjS99Qw44POMvJXBXpEZMUrMV8

My concern is with this paragraph:
"There is also the matter of different registration requirements when it comes to different apps. You need your Facebook identity for messenger, an email for Instagram, and your phone number for WhatsApp. There are clear concerns how the metadata from the future interactions between users across the platform will be used by Facebook. Some people might not want to have their identities across these platforms unified and would rather opt out. It is unclear at this time what guarantees will be put in place to address these concerns".I'm concerned about using my real phone number to message these girls sounds like after they are done modifying these message apps you will be able to message WhatsApp users direct from your Facebook account. So you can create a fake Facebook account without using a private phone number to message the girls.

WestCoast1
01-29-19, 16:22
I'm concerned about using my real phone number to message these girls sounds like after they are done modifying these message apps you will be able to message WhatsApp users direct from your Facebook account. So you can create a fake Facebook account without using a private phone number to message the girls.We've said before that you should probably make new accounts with a new Phils SIM card number and a new email address. Always keep a second FB account for using with the ladies (oh my, don't let them see your cano friends list, the girl can mess with your life in many ways). Same for your other stuff, you can use the same new Phils phone number and email to set up your other accounts, ie Insta, WhatsApp, Skype, and so on. Keep everything separate.

Albert9989
01-29-19, 16:23
I'm concerned about using my real phone number to message these girls sounds like after they are done modifying these message apps you will be able to message WhatsApp users direct from your Facebook account. So you can create a fake Facebook account without using a private phone number to message the girls.Yes, still possible to create a second facebook and a second email, so for messenger and emails it stays clearly separated from your normal facebook, only whatsapp needs your real phone number.

and for whatsapp, yes WC u are right, we can create it as soon we get the local SIM card, i should think about that next time instead keeping my normal one, but risk is more limited with whatsapp.

VictorHugo99
01-29-19, 18:48
I have a few experiences with FL of feeling somehow guilty of letting them see me walking with their friend.

I hope that the "locker room" is not too shaken.

How do you do it continually with the bar girls.

On my coming trip, I'm trying not to let my new girl feel jealous, yet she knows I will be seeing someone when I leave for 5 hours!

Any therapy?

Vic.


There are no secrets in the bar. The fact that she did not respond to your question about knowing the other girl means that she knows that you already fucked the competition. LOL! The best part of fucking bar girls is walking past them on the way out the door to fuck their best friend in all her holes. It lets them know that you are not falling for their shit. LOL! Let her see that the cane intends to fuck every hot girl in PlanB without repeating any holes!

Breadman
01-29-19, 22:07
I have a few experiences with FL of feeling somehow guilty of letting them see me walking with their friend.

I hope that the "locker room" is not too shaken.

How do you do it continually with the bar girls.

On my coming trip, I'm trying not to let my new girl feel jealous, yet she knows I will be seeing someone when I leave for 5 hours!

Any therapy?

Vic.Once after a horrible session I went back into the Go-Go and the girl was onstage so I called over the waitress and pointed in her direction and she was all smiles. Until I barfined her friend.

Kabul Guy
01-29-19, 22:43
Yes, still possible to create a second facebook and a second email, so for messenger and emails it stays clearly separated from your normal facebook, only whatsapp needs your real phone number.

and for whatsapp, yes WC u are right, we can create it as soon we get the local SIM card, i should think about that next time instead keeping my normal one, but risk is more limited with whatsapp.I say again.

Cheap mongering phone, separate SIM card, disposal email and on line identity.

I would consider this absolutely necessary if you are looking to fuck as many different women as possible in as short a time as possible and have a high need to keep your real identity private. If on a vacation throw away the sim and abandon the on line identity. You can reuse the phone a few times but sooner or later that will have to be trashed as well.

If you are looking for a series of relationships it is not as necessary but you should still keep some distance between your real identity and who you let the girls know you are.

AussieGaigin
01-30-19, 00:48
I'm concerned about using my real phone number to message these girls sounds like after they are done modifying these message apps you will be able to message WhatsApp users direct from your Facebook account. So you can create a fake Facebook account without using a private phone number to message the girls.I have two phone numbers, one regular and one for "extra-curricular" activities with a different ID name. I used to have a dual SIM phone, and one day I mistakenly called one of my girls from my regular number. Within a day, she appeared in my regular FB page as "someone I might know". I think I managed to block her in time, as she has never mentioned it since. For safety, I bought a second phone for my alter-ego SIM.

Chocha Monger
01-30-19, 02:11
I have a few experiences with FL of feeling somehow guilty of letting them see me walking with their friend.

I hope that the "locker room" is not too shaken.

How do you do it continually with the bar girls.

On my coming trip, I'm trying not to let my new girl feel jealous, yet she knows I will be seeing someone when I leave for 5 hours!

Any therapy?

Vic.If you do not feel guilty when your previous trike driver sees you getting into another trike, then you should not feel guilty when the bar girls and freelancers see you getting ready to get into another snatch. You are just their customer, not their boyfriend. They do not hesitate to go spread their holes open for loads of sperms from other mongers. Why should you feel guilty about sticking your prick into their best friends? You are paying them to do what makes you happy. No therapy needed for either party. The girls fuck much better when they know you are comparing their performance with that of their best friend or their most hated rival.

PedroMorales
01-30-19, 08:59
If you do not feel guilty when your previous trike driver sees you getting into another trike, then you should not feel guilty when the bar girls and freelancers see you getting ready to get into another snatch. You are just their customer, not their boyfriend. They do not hesitate to go spread their holes open for loads of sperms from other mongers. Why should you feel guilty about sticking your prick into their best friends? You are paying them to do what makes you happy. No therapy needed for either party. The girls fuck much better when they know you are comparing their performance with that of their best friend or their most hated rival.Although you are a hopeless romantic at heart, you make one good point here. These lovely women refer to their clients as clients or customers and so there is an element of commercialism to it.

Maybe you can help me with my problem. Should I go into my local supermarket for meat, into a very busy shopping mall butchers for meat or into a nearby craft butcher, who is more expensive? I like cheap meat but I would like to help a struggling butcher out, even if he has no great attachment to me or his other customers and clients.

Chocha Monger
01-31-19, 01:56
Although you are a hopeless romantic at heart, you make one good point here. These lovely women refer to their clients as clients or customers and so there is an element of commercialism to it.

Maybe you can help me with my problem. Should I go into my local supermarket for meat, into a very busy shopping mall butchers for meat or into a nearby craft butcher, who is more expensive? I like cheap meat but I would like to help a struggling butcher out, even if he has no great attachment to me or his other customers and clients.It all depends on what is most important to you. Your local supermarket may have the cheapest meat and the proximity may cut down on your carbon footprint, as you do not need to travel far to find it. The busy shopping mall butcher may have the freshest meat due to faster turnover, but the higher overhead rolls into the meat prices you must pay. The nearby craft butcher is convenient and pricey but you get meat butchered to your very peculiar specifications. Then you must consider your budget, sanitary conditions at each butcher shop, imported vs domestic meat, free-range vs cage fed, meat grades, animal pedigree, FDA inspected vs mystery meat, etc.

PedroMorales
01-31-19, 20:14
It all depends on what is most important to you. Your local supermarket may have the cheapest meat and the proximity may cut down on your carbon footprint, as you do not need to travel far to find it. The busy shopping mall butcher may have the freshest meat due to faster turnover, but the higher overhead rolls into the meat prices you must pay. The nearby craft butcher is convenient and pricey but you get meat butchered to your very peculiar specifications. Then you must consider your budget, sanitary conditions at each butcher shop, imported vs domestic meat, free-range vs cage fed, meat grades, animal pedigree, FDA inspected vs mystery meat, etc.I asked you about meat, not a about Pinay prostitutes.

Chocha Monger
02-02-19, 13:28
I asked you about meat, not a about Pinay prostitutes.These considerations apply to any kind of meat you want anywhere you want.

Cali Scorpio
02-03-19, 15:21
I'd like to mention another app for casual hook-ups. Whisper. It's primarily used by folks to post messages "anonymously". I put that in quotes because nothing is truly anonymous these days. It's location based so you can search for posts near you. Most of them are from people confessing one thing or another or from thirsty guys looking for sex. Sometimes, you'll find posts from girls looking for P4P, sugar daddies, FWBs and relationships. I live in the states and in the last couple of years, I've probably met more than 30 regular girls from there. Some who needed money and others who were looking for a date or fun. I've also had success using it in Canada and Mexico so thought I'd try my luck in Phils.

During my last trip, I was staying in Makati and would randomly open the app to check the posts. Most were just random shit but one caught my attention. It was from a girl nearby looking for a mutually beneficial relationship. After exchanging a few private messages, she said she was 18, mix of Singaporean and Filipino, parents lived abroad and she was here going to college. She was looking for a sugar daddy relationship so she could buy stuff without depending on her family. I asked for her pic and she was damn cute so I suggested we meet for a date to get to know each other. She was very hesitant and shy about meeting a foreigner but she finally gave in and we met for dinner. Things were going well until I told her I was visiting and not living in Makati. She was looking for local sugar daddy to meet up with on a regular basis. I made up a story that I visit often for work and she was fine with that. Fortunately it was raining that night so after dinner I suggested we go back to my room to watch Netflix and one thing led to another and soon we were having fun under the sheets. She had a tight body and was submissive but took directions well. Her only rules were no kissing and I had to use a condom until we're in a relationship. Whatever LOL. She couldn't stay till morning since she had school the next day so before she left, I discreetly put 3 K in her pocket and got her a Grab back to her place. Unfortunately, it was my 2nd to last night in Makati so I couldn't meet her again but we're still in touch.

So that's my latest Whisper encounter. YMMV depending on where you live and how many local girls use it and be careful of anyone who asks for money before meeting. There are scammers on there just like other social / dating apps.

Breadman
02-03-19, 18:18
Which airport would it be? I'm using airmiles to book a return flight back to the states and I have several options for a Wednesday return flight. The Manila return is at 10 am and gets me back home around 7 pm. A Cebu return departs at 2 am and gets me home around 2 pm and a Clarke return departs at 2 am and gets me home at 7 pm with a long layover in Seoul.

With the Manila return I'd get the full night of fun. With the Cebu return I'd possibly have an easier departure. And with the Clarke return I'd just get fucked in the end. Any suggestions?

Dg8787
02-03-19, 20:20
Which airport would it be? I'm using airmiles to book a return flight back to the states and I have several options for a Wednesday return flight. The Manila return is at 10 am and gets me back home around 7 pm. A Cebu return departs at 2 am and gets me home around 2 pm and a Clarke return departs at 2 am and gets me home at 7 pm with a long layover in Seoul.

With the Manila return I'd get the full night of fun. With the Cebu return I'd possibly have an easier departure. And with the Clarke return I'd just get fucked in the end. Any suggestions?It highly depends on where you will be at last? Manila? Cebu? Angeles?

Member #4698
02-03-19, 20:45
Which airport would it be? I'm using airmiles to book a return flight back to the states and I have several options for a Wednesday return flight. The Manila return is at 10 am and gets me back home around 7 pm. A Cebu return departs at 2 am and gets me home around 2 pm and a Clarke return departs at 2 am and gets me home at 7 pm with a long layover in Seoul.

With the Manila return I'd get the full night of fun. With the Cebu return I'd possibly have an easier departure. And with the Clarke return I'd just get fucked in the end. Any suggestions?I hate 2 am (early am) departures, so the Clarke & Cebu returns would be a no go for me unless they yielded a significantly shorter duration flight home, which I highly doubt. The 10 am Manila departure, on the other hand, is not bad. I have flown it a number of times so I would not hesitate to choose it again and enjoy a full night's entertainment in MNL. I am assuming that at this stage in your trip planning you are flexible on the order of your PI itinerary. There is nothing wrong with making MNL your final destination. As a matter of fact, I kind of like it that way.

The Cane
02-03-19, 21:08
I hate 2 am (early am) departures, so the Clarke & Cebu returns would be a no go for me unless they yielded a significantly shorter duration flight home, which I highly doubt. The 10 am Manila departure, on the other hand, is not bad. I have flown it a number of times so I would not hesitate to choose it again and enjoy a full night's entertainment in MNL. I am assuming that at this stage in your trip planning you are flexible on the order of your PI itinerary. There is nothing wrong with making MNL your final destination. As a matter of fact, I kind of like it that way.Could not have put it better myself! Now that I have been here and see how things are, that's some good advice.

Breadman
02-03-19, 21:23
It highly depends on where you will be at last? Manila? Cebu? Angeles?My itinerary in the Philippines is completely open right now seeing on flying into Hong Kong and have yet to buy my flight into the Philippines. My biggest concern is the return flight and how busy the airport will be.

Dg8787
02-03-19, 21:41
My itinerary in the Philippines is completely open right now seeing on flying into Hong Kong and have yet to buy my flight into the Philippines. My biggest concern is the return flight and how busy the airport will be.Clark would be the least busy airport and easiest to get to.

Cebu would be easier to get to than Manila airport.

Manila would be the 3rd easiest.

Breadman
02-03-19, 22:39
Clark would be the least busy airport and easiest to get to.

Cebu would be easier to get to than Manila airport.

Manila would be the 3rd easiest.I'm thinking the best solution would be to change hotels a day out and stay closer to the airport.

Dg8787
02-03-19, 22:53
I'm thinking the best solution would be to change hotels a day out and stay closer to the airport.Good idea. That solution would apply to any airport. I will keep that in mind on my next trip.

WestCoast1
02-03-19, 23:22
I'm thinking the best solution would be to change hotels a day out and stay closer to the airport.At NAIA there are condo's on airbnb just a few hundred meters away.

VictorHugo99
02-04-19, 01:15
Dear Sirs,

Very true statements. I guess that it is only utopic to hope to find win win situations in these things.

Hope to see good results.

Vic.


Although you are a hopeless romantic at heart, you make one good point here. These lovely women refer to their clients as clients or customers and so there is an element of commercialism to it.

Maybe you can help me with my problem. Should I go into my local supermarket for meat, into a very busy shopping mall butchers for meat or into a nearby craft butcher, who is more expensive? I like cheap meat but I would like to help a struggling butcher out, even if he has no great attachment to me or his other customers and clients.

BrainDrain
02-05-19, 23:21
My itinerary in the Philippines is completely open right now seeing on flying into Hong Kong and have yet to buy my flight into the Philippines. My biggest concern is the return flight and how busy the airport will be.Agree with DG7878 fly your last leg as HKG-CRK-HKG. Can get to CRK at the 60 minutes before departure. Traffic to the airport is predictable.

Going to NAIA even from Paranaque can be 30-90 minutes. When I'm leaving from NAIA I usually get a room and a girl to Victoria Court.

PedroMorales
02-06-19, 00:29
These witches came uninvited to me through Pinay Love and then Skype. MacBeth only got 3 witches. These are not bad. I like the 2nd from the left and then the far left but nude pics never did it for me. They are like puppies in a window and I amazed folk would pay to watch them perform as monkeys.

They all obviously use the same barbers on their snatches (I'll use a different one). They are ofering a cam show, obviously playing the numbers. I'll hang in till I get a price but what a bore, watching rice farmers' daughters handling dildos like a spastic on his first day at boot camp.

$30 a lesbian show. I wouldn't even pay them that to pick rice.

Engine Driver
02-06-19, 06:14
These witches came uninvited to me through Pinay Love and then Skype. MacBeth only got 3 witches. These are not bad. I like the 2nd from the left and then the far left but nude pics never did it for me. They are like puppies in a window and I amazed folk would pay to watch them perform as monkeys.

They all obviously use the same barbers on their snatches (I'll use a different one). They are ofering a cam show, obviously playing the numbers. I'll hang in till I get a price but what a bore, watching rice farmers' daughters handling dildos like a spastic on his first day at boot camp.

$30 a lesbian show. I wouldn't even pay them that to pick rice.So did you get to fuck any of them?

Mdemde
02-06-19, 06:58
These witches came uninvited to me through Pinay Love and then Skype. MacBeth only got 3 witches. These are not bad. I like the 2nd from the left and then the far left but nude pics never did it for me. They are like puppies in a window and I amazed folk would pay to watch them perform as monkeys.

They all obviously use the same barbers on their snatches (I'll use a different one). They are ofering a cam show, obviously playing the numbers. I'll hang in till I get a price but what a bore, watching rice farmers' daughters handling dildos like a spastic on his first day at boot camp.

$30 a lesbian show. I wouldn't even pay them that to pick rice.So they have offered you an online cam show, for USD $30? I personally am not into cam shows or sex chat lines and have never used them, but if it turns you on, then why not! Are you in the Philippines? Do they offer a live show IE visit you in your room to do a show, with an opportunity afterwards for some 'man to 4 x girl' action?

VictorHugo99
02-06-19, 13:19
Too bad. They look good though.

However, they have unrealistic expectations.

Sad. VIC.


These witches came uninvited to me through Pinay Love and then Skype. MacBeth only got 3 witches. These are not bad. I like the 2nd from the left and then the far left but nude pics never did it for me. They are like puppies in a window and I amazed folk would pay to watch them perform as monkeys.

They all obviously use the same barbers on their snatches (I'll use a different one). They are ofering a cam show, obviously playing the numbers. I'll hang in till I get a price but what a bore, watching rice farmers' daughters handling dildos like a spastic on his first day at boot camp.

$30 a lesbian show. I wouldn't even pay them that to pick rice.

Fun Times69
02-11-19, 10:50
Too bad. They look good though.

However, they have unrealistic expectations.

Sad. VIC.Financially challenged young women like that are 10 a penny. I think I have 'Joy' on reserve just in case I'm in Cebu and fancy a meet up as they will visit you too. PM me for her number.

Shows do nothing for me so their $30 offer was declined.

Joy offers to hook you up with other young women too although one looked a little too young so watch out guys.

Engine Driver
02-11-19, 11:06
Hey Admin,

I think it's time to change the title of this thread to "On-line Dating", since we don't have chat rooms or pen pals any more. LOL. I think chat rooms existed 20 years ago and pen pals existed 30 years ago. LOL.

GDreams
02-11-19, 12:42
These witches came uninvited to me through Pinay Love and then Skype. MacBeth only got 3 witches. These are not bad. I like the 2nd from the left and then the far left but nude pics never did it for me. They are like puppies in a window and I amazed folk would pay to watch them perform as monkeys.

They all obviously use the same barbers on their snatches (I'll use a different one). They are ofering a cam show, obviously playing the numbers. I'll hang in till I get a price but what a bore, watching rice farmers' daughters handling dildos like a spastic on his first day at boot camp.

$30 a lesbian show. I wouldn't even pay them that to pick rice.I just had one offer a cam show, I said I would just prefer to meet. I have had a number of girls on DIA invite me to come to their club or KTV to meet. They will be waiting a while.

Mdemde
02-11-19, 14:53
Hey Admin,

I think it's time to change the title of this thread to "On-line Dating", since we don't have chat rooms or pen pals any more. LOL. I think chat rooms existed 20 years ago and pen pals existed 30 years ago. LOL.I second that!

Fun Times69
02-12-19, 08:55
"Joy" approached me on Pinalove and rapidly asked to move to Viber.

These are pictures "Joy" sent me via Viber of her and her friend in Cebu. Initially she offered, as others have said, a cam show for $30 but as I can easily find almost anything I like for free on the internet asked if she would meet up for ST and LT. Not the best looker but might be a bit of fun on the side.

She agreed but I didn't start any negotiations regarding price. PM me for her number. She uses Viber and says she lives in Cebu.

Mogwai
02-12-19, 09:08
"Joy" approached me on Pinalove and rapidly asked to move to Viber.
Which one is Joy? At least two of these girls look too young to me.

Engine Driver
02-12-19, 09:08
Not the best looker but might be a bit of fun on the side.

What's wrong with those chicks? The one with the vibrator is smoking hot.

PedroMorales
02-12-19, 09:13
"Joy" approached me on Pinalove and rapidly asked to move to Viber.

These are pictures "Joy" sent me via Viber of her and her friend in Cebu. Initially she offered, as others have said, a cam show for $30 but as I can easily find almost anything I like for free on the internet asked if she would meet up for ST and LT. Not the best looker but might be a bit of fun on the side.

She agreed but I didn't start any negotiations regarding price. PM me for her number. She uses Viber and says she lives in Cebu.Check out the religious posters on the wall.

Fun Times69
02-12-19, 09:57
What's wrong with those chicks? The one with the vibrator is smoking hot.Nothing I suppose. Joy is the one holding the vibrator.

I confirmed with Joy that everyone in the pictures was at least 18 but obviously everyone needs to make sure of that themselves in situations where they are in anyway concerned. Thank you for pointing that out and reminding us Mogwai. 🙂.

Mogwai
02-13-19, 09:14
Nothing I suppose. Joy is the one holding the vibrator.

I confirmed with Joy that everyone in the pictures was at least 18 but obviously everyone needs to make sure of that themselves in situations where they are in anyway concerned. Thank you for pointing that out and reminding us Mogwai. 🙂.Initially I thought there were 4 different girls in the pics but on closer inspection there are only 2. I think Joy is 18+ but the other one looks like the 13 yo daughter of one of my regulars. (And no, I'm not fucking her daughter LOL).

However I know pics can be very deceiving sometimes. Nevertheless I would be very careful posting dubious pics like this if I were you.

Member #1088
02-13-19, 15:00
Initially I thought there were 4 different girls in the pics but on closer inspection there are only 2. I think Joy is 18+ but the other one looks like the 13 yo daughter of one of my regulars. (And no, I'm not fucking her daughter LOL).

However I know pics can be very deceiving sometimes. Nevertheless I would be very careful posting dubious pics like this if I were you.I suggest the delete of those pic ASAP.

WestCoast1
02-13-19, 16:22
I suggest the delete of those pic ASAP.The post would have to be reported.

Have said it before: Unless a girl tells you she wants her face splashed on the Internet, its not a good idea to post facial pics.

PedroMorales
02-13-19, 18:20
Tits and public hair suggest they are 18+. Judging by the religious pic, they live at home and their folks are not dirt poor; maybe 1+ parent works in Saudi. Their MO suggests they are semi-amateur (confident pose though) but big trouble. There is good money in coming if they know what they are doing. At least that is what cam girls I bonked told me. This lot are not my type as they spell trouble, just putting their meat and religious posters out like gypsies setting up a roadside stall.

Red Kilt
02-14-19, 06:55
I just watched a documentary on the scammers that use the internet and especially social media and dating sites to scam both men and women.

It was on the Australia Network via the well-regarded "Four Corners" program.

The West African guys being interviewed were very frank and open about their MO. Incredible amounts of money involved. These guys are making serious coin out of naive, lonely, (insert your own adjective) people.

The biggest shock came with the revelation that more than 300 million Aust dollars was sent to scammers last year. This is very conservative and it's based only on what has been reported; clearly many would be too embarrassed to report they were scammed.

Check it out on the replays later today on Australia Network.

Fun Times69
02-14-19, 14:46
I suggest the delete of those pic ASAP.Okay. I'm not here to irritate other forum members but cannot see how to edit my post and therefore remove the photos that seem to be causing offence. Can anyone tell me how, in a friendly and constructive manner please, and I'll remove them.

This was only for information exchange and I'm not at all interested in arguing or whatever. This is a closed forum BTW and to post a photo here is not quite the same as posting on the wider internet. But for an easy life I'll delete them.

Cheers 🙂.

PS, I can see how to edit posts shortly after posting them like I am doing right now but it appears that option is removed after a period of time.

Mogwai
02-14-19, 15:15
Okay. I'm not here to irritate other forum members but cannot see how to edit my post and therefore remove the photos that seem to be causing offence. Can anyone tell me how, in a friendly and constructive manner please, and I'll remove them.Click on 'Report Post' in the bottom left corner of your post.
Check 'Delete my Report (You must be the Original Author)'.

Then send it and an admin should take care of it.

WestCoast1
02-14-19, 15:16
Can anyone tell me how, in a friendly and constructive manner please, and I'll remove them.Sure. You can only edit or delete a post for 1 hour after posting it. If you want it removed, you (or anyone) must 'report' the post to Admin. On the lower-left corner of each post is a link that says 'Report Post'. Click on that link and you will be taken to a page where you can send a msg to Admin requesting removal. See pic.

Mogwai
02-14-19, 15:21
This was only for information exchange and I'm not at all interested in arguing or whatever. This is a closed forum BTW and to post a photo here is not quite the same as posting on the wider internet. But for an easy life I'll delete them.I agree but nevertheless it can get you and the forum owner in serious trouble. About ten years ago (could be a few years more or less) this forum was shut down and investigated by the FBI for quite some time because board members were allegedly posting (nude) pictures of minors.

SaltyPete
02-14-19, 15:32
I agree but nevertheless it can get you and the forum owner in serious trouble. About ten years ago (could be a few years more or less) this forum was shut down and investigated by the FBI for quite some time because board members were allegedly posting (nude) pictures of minors.I deleted all my cookies, cached images and files from my browser after viewing that pic.

Fun Times69
02-14-19, 15:32
I agree but nevertheless it can get you and the forum owner in serious trouble. About ten years ago (could be a few years more or less) this forum was shut down and investigated by the FBI for quite some time because board members were allegedly posting (nude) pictures of minors.Good point Mogwai. There's some debate but I appreciate the forum cannot be put at risk. I'd like to assure everyone that I checked with Joy that everyone was 18 or above but if anyone is concerned that's fine 🙂.

I've reported my own post so the photos can be removed.

SaltyPete
02-14-19, 15:34
I'd like to assure everyone that I checked with Joy that everyone was 18 or aboveNo girl has ever lied about her age before. Thanks for taking action.

Fun Times69
02-14-19, 15:35
No girl has ever lied about her age before. Thanks for taking action.Of course 🤣129315;129315;.

Wicked Roger
02-15-19, 14:55
Good point Mogwai. There's some debate but I appreciate the forum cannot be put at risk. I'd like to assure everyone that I checked with Joy that everyone was 18 or above but if anyone is concerned that's fine 🙂.

I've reported my own post so the photos can be removed.And you believe in Santa? You can report it but it may never be deleted and is there today 16th. If you posted sometimes the view you live with the consequences. This happened to an old monger friend who was trying hurriedly to remove near to 200 posts as wifey had found his handle. While some were eventually deleted not all and that as way too late. Like months later by which time he was truly in the mire and beyond.

Best you hope for is that the girls themselves or relatives, friends don't see them as that could prove 'interesting' for you.

Goferring
02-15-19, 19:48
.....

Best you hope for is that the girls themselves or relatives, friends don't see them as that could prove 'interesting' for you.I'd agree that everyone needs to be reasonably careful BEFORE distributing photos, videos etc that will then be beyond their control.

I've received a PM asking for advice from a member who is now dealing with a blackmail attempt after being videoed banging a girl's younger sister. I wish him well but there is not much you can do when said info is now in the public domain and beyond your suppression.

Enjoy but be careful out there, G.

BrainDrain
02-16-19, 00:37
This happened to an old monger friend who was trying hurriedly to remove near to 200 posts as wifey had found his handle. While some were eventually deleted not all and that as way too late. Like months later by which time he was truly in the mire and beyond.This reminds me that as a precaution I have retired various usernames over time. I guess I'll still be in shit one day but only for 1 year of mis-adventures not 30 years.

Be careful online.

BD.

PedroMorales
02-18-19, 11:32
I was chatting to some potential frauds on PL. They give me their messenger details. How could you use messenger with these folk. A. Without compromising yourself. B. Without getting all kinds of complication with other hookers thinking you are a butterfly?

Goferring
02-18-19, 19:05
I was chatting to some potential frauds on PL. They give me their messenger details. How could you use messenger with these folk. A. Without compromising yourself. B. Without getting all kinds of complication with other hookers thinking you are a butterfly?I don't use Messange of FB for that reason. I once had them recommend all my PL and FC contacts as potential new "Friends". The last thing I want is my user name recommended to a 100 part time hookers. I don't even trust having a fake account as FBs reach is so wide.

If girls insist on using one of there two, I just move on. It screams of fraud as every girl has a regular WA, Viber or similar so should be ok with giving out that number.

As an aside I don't care if other hookers know I'm a butterfly. For me, it actually makes not meeting on a particular day easier and slows down the endless messages every day.

Enjoy, G.

Mango King
02-18-19, 20:40
I don't use Messange of FB for that reason. I once had them recommend all my PL and FC contacts as potential new "Friends". The last thing I want is my user name recommended to a 100 part time hookers. I don't even trust having a fake account as FBs reach is so wide.

If girls insist on using one of there two, I just move on. It screams of fraud as every girl has a regular WA, Viber or similar so should be ok with giving out that number.

As an aside I don't care if other hookers know I'm a butterfly. For me, it actually makes not meeting on a particular day easier and slows down the endless messages every day.

Enjoy, G.I actually have a fake FB account which I only access from my dedicated monger phone. Whatsapp and Viber are only on my monger phone. FB uses phone numbers (and other details) as a significant means of connecting people. In fact this works to my advantage often. Usually I focus on getting a girl talking on whatsapp / viber and within a few hours FB Messenger will find her on FB from her phone number and I will then have lots of pics and info about her. I don't mind if she does the same for me as my fake FB account doesn't have much on it.

I do prospect directly on FB and have had good results. I also use FB to stay in contact with some of my regulars.

If you only have one phone for friends / family and mongering then you are toast if you try to use FB Messenger.

Goferring
02-19-19, 02:45
I actually have a fake FB account which I only access from my dedicated monger phone. Whatsapp and Viber are only on my monger phone. FB uses phone numbers (and other details) as a significant means of connecting people. In fact this works to my advantage often. Usually I focus on getting a girl talking on whatsapp / viber and within a few hours FB Messenger will find her on FB from her phone number and I will then have lots of pics and info about her. I don't mind if she does the same for me as my fake FB account doesn't have much on it.

I do prospect directly on FB and have had good results. I also use FB to stay in contact with some of my regulars.

If you only have one phone for friends / family and mongering then you are toast if you try to use FB Messenger.Would you go into some more detail in how you operate your second FB persona.

I keep parallel phone, email etc to separate my mongering activities from my civilian life. I'm not overly concerned about hiding my true identity from girls. I realise some guys do go to great lengths to hide their ID but I am truthful about my personal situation with the girls and they know I'm not looking for long relationships etc. This plus I have never had a girl go crazy on me nor contact me via civilian channels gives me little incentive to go to great lengths to maintain a second persona to mislead the girls. I obviously don't hand out my wife's business card but I'm just not overly concerned about a girl trying to track me down.

From the other side however I do keep a second phone with accounts and contact details that cannot be viewed on my daily phone. It would be stupid of me to have a true profile pic and 50 female friends attached to a second FB account that would come up on a real friend or family's accidental search.

For FB, are guys running fake or generic landscape profile pics with high friends and photo search protection? How are you stopping your real friends and family finding your second account either accidently through a "friend" suggestion or an intentional search?

Cheers, G.

Red Kilt
02-19-19, 04:22
For FB, are guys running fake or generic landscape profile pics with high friends and photo search protection? How are you stopping your real friends and family finding your second account either accidently through a "friend" suggestion or an intentional search?
If you use your real pic on any fake FB account then you can almost guarantee that at some time somewhere your photo and assumed fake name will pop up on someone's FB page as a suggestion (as Gofer said).

This will be manna from heaven for those friends of your family who wish to drop you in the sh*t.

There is no such thing as "high friends and photo search protection" on FB. You will all have instances of random names totally unknown to you popping up on your "suggested friends list".

Goferring
02-19-19, 05:20
There is no such thing as "high friends and photo search protection" on FB. You will all have instances of random names totally unknown to you popping up on your "suggested friends list".One thing that really irks me with FB is that you can limit who is recommended and visible to you but you cannot stop YOUR profile being recommended to others. Sucks.

If I was to set up a second account all profile photos would be be sunsets or rolling hills. No face shots of anyone.

PedroMorales
02-19-19, 12:34
It seems to have the following on offer:

1. Ladyboys: these are extremely persistent in trying to seal a sale. They seem to be the most active group.

2. Guys: They seem to be almost non existent, implying the gay chappies shop elsewhere.

3. Women: Very few P4P types, mostly older women looking for a steady pay cheque. , some young unmarried mothers.

4. Manila-Pampanga-Cebu: is the location of 90% of them with the rest being spread out through the paddyfields This indicates only those three places are worth it for mongers, even though they tend to be "touristy".

Those findings correlate to the posts on this board, where those three locations dominate. It seems other places only make sense if they had something else to offer.

Mango King
02-19-19, 19:58
Would you go into some more detail in how you operate your second FB persona.My fake FB does have my real pic on it. When I originally set it up I started out with a fake pic of a guy somewhat similar in appearance to me. The fake pic was accepted by girls most of the time but after a while it didn't really matter to me so I switched it to a real pic. It's not a huge deal if FB suggests my fake account to friends / family. None have mentioned it to me.

I do have my fake FB account locked down as best as I can. I disable people tagging me. I don't allow comments on posts or on timeline, etc. My biggest concern is one of my regular "GF" girls seeing comments from other girls on my timeline. What I can't disable is the ability to Like posts so any of my FB friends can see the names of other friends who Like a post.

Red Kilt
02-20-19, 03:30
What I can't disable is the ability to Like posts so any of my FB friends can see the names of other friends who Like a post.Exactly. If you are not trying to "hide" your activity from a spouse or curious work colleagues then FB is OK but, as has been said many times, there are all manner of different ways for you to be screwed through FB.

The major concern is the way FB keeps changing settings to "enhance" the site, and they don't always tell you what these enhancements are.

There will be major changes if FB is allowed to merge WhatsApp and FB as has been requested. One uses email and the other uses a cp number. That will really put the cat among the pigeons.

Goferring
02-21-19, 12:50
In other countries' forums I'm noticing more and more mongers are making use of websites and apps that are normally targeted at local punters.

I'm thinking kynu and thiendia in Vietnam, #bispak and similar hashtags on Twitter Indonesia and Siamsin's excellent post on Line Friend Groups in Thailand:


Now here's a bit of intel for the guys who have the time and don't mind picking up girls online......All have a language barrier to overcome and sometimes difficulty on actually finding / getting to the girls. However, if you can make it work the sites deliver young, beautiful and cheap girls without the tourist tax and attitude associated with hardened hoes who target foreigners.

Do any guys that are not afraid to go off the tourist trail know of similar sites or apps in the Philippines?

Cheers. G.

Member #1088
02-21-19, 18:31
In other countries' forums I'm noticing more and more mongers are making use of websites and apps that are normally targeted at local punters.

I'm thinking kynu and thiendia in Vietnam, #bispak and similar hashtags on Twitter Indonesia and Siamsin's excellent post on Line Friend Groups in Thailand:

All have a language barrier to overcome and sometimes difficulty on actually finding / getting to the girls. However, if you can make it work the sites deliver young, beautiful and cheap girls without the tourist tax and attitude associated with hardened hoes who target foreigners.

Do any guys that are not afraid to go off the tourist trail know of similar sites or apps in the Philippines?

Cheers. G.I look at the Thiendia web site using google translate interesting. The #bispak was like DIA but direct, phone number and services offered. .

Wht are the line groups in Thailand?

Goferring
02-21-19, 19:09
Wht are the line groups in Thailand?If you open Siamsin's post he gives a good explaination, some links and even some photos of a girl he used.

Sammon
02-24-19, 13:48
This is obviously a fake pic posted on DIA. First of all location does not look like in Philippines. Obviously posted by a ladyboy. But a nice pic nevertheless.

D Cups
02-24-19, 15:31
This is obviously a fake pic posted on DIA. First of all location does not look like in Philippines. Obviously posted by a ladyboy. But a nice pic nevertheless.How do you know, Sammon? Could be taken from Ayala, too.

Goferring
02-25-19, 01:29
This is obviously a fake pic posted on DIA. First of all location does not look like in Philippines. Obviously posted by a ladyboy. But a nice pic nevertheless.No offense to Sammon or any of the the other recent posters but why the sudden influx of posts asking if someone is 18/ scamming / female? How are we going to tell from one reduced pic? Wouldn't it be easier and more accurate to ask her? You may be pleasantly surprised.

She may indeed be too good to be true but I'd be delighted to find the girl pictured was in a town I was visiting.

Sammon
02-27-19, 04:25
How do you know, Sammon? Could be taken from Ayala, too.True. She or he chatted for a while but when I asked to see on cam suddenly vanished. Whoever the picture belongs certainly a beauty in my eye.

Goferring
02-27-19, 05:29
True. She or he chatted for a while but when I asked to see on cam suddenly vanished. Whoever the picture belongs certainly a beauty in my eye.Did you try a reverse image search?

Wicked Roger
02-27-19, 07:20
True. She or he chatted for a while but when I asked to see on cam suddenly vanished. Whoever the picture belongs certainly a beauty in my eye.IMHO that is a good sign they are not who they. Some people get deceived by the bug susus and don't see sense past them but always best C2 C as a good check and balance.

And as Goferring says. Do a tineye reverse search etc.

NaughtyTom
02-28-19, 16:59
This is obviously a fake pic posted on DIA. First of all location does not look like in Philippines. Obviously posted by a ladyboy. But a nice pic nevertheless.I believe it is "Pandora Kaki", model. Can be checked in Insta.

Engine Driver
03-01-19, 08:51
I believe it is "Pandora Kaki", model. Can be checked in Insta.You are correct Sir. Good investigating. Even a Manila massage shop which advertises on WeChat has stolen her pictures!

Engine Driver
03-01-19, 09:11
True. She or he chatted for a while but when I asked to see on cam suddenly vanished. Whoever the picture belongs certainly a beauty in my eye.Super attractive girls like that do not waste their time talking to middle aged foreign men on DIA. They have enough wealthy local sponsors already (politicians, businessmen) and have sufficient, young Filipino cock each night to keep them satisfied. Who do you think the young, fully ripped, Filipino male models and TV stars fuck?

The only things an old western monger can offer these hotties are a shrivelled cock which doesn't always work, saggy skin, a bald head and 40 years' of baggage (after being beaten up by AW). A super attractive girl on dating sites will almost always be a prop used by a scammer.

If you have a look at this girl's IG, she has pictures from a lot of countries and has done a few product placements. I'm sorry guys, but she's a bit beyond our league.

However, Smooci does have a few models from time to time in the 10-20 K range for ST. I've seen a few stunners in Burgos bars that come close to that for 10 K LT. Just point and shoot or just click yes on your phone.

Goferring
03-01-19, 11:55
You are correct Sir. Good investigating. Even a Manila massage shop which advertises on WeChat has stolen her pictures!Some of her other IG photos are on Filippine Cupid too.

Goferring
03-01-19, 11:57
Who do you think the young, fully ripped, Filipino male models and TV stars fuck?.Other hot Filipino male models. Not that there is anything wrong with that. 😁.

Chocha Monger
03-01-19, 13:55
Super attractive girls like that do not waste their time talking to middle aged foreign men on DIA. They have enough wealthy local sponsors already (politicians, businessmen) and have sufficient, young Filipino cock each night to keep them satisfied. Who do you think the young, fully ripped, Filipino male models and TV stars fuck?

The only things an old western monger can offer these hotties are a shrivelled cock which doesn't always work, saggy skin, a bald head and 40 years' of baggage (after being beaten up by AW). A super attractive girl on dating sites will almost always be a prop used by a scammer.

If you have a look at this girl's IG, she has pictures from a lot of countries and has done a few product placements. I'm sorry guys, but she's a bit beyond our league.

However, Smooci does have a few models from time to time in the 10-20 K range for ST. I've seen a few stunners in Burgos bars that come close to that for 10 K LT. Just point and shoot or just click yes on your phone.She no study, she no care.

She go marry a millionaire.

When he die, she no cry.

She marry much younger guy.

Albert9989
03-01-19, 16:40
She no study, she no care.

She go marry a millionaire.

When he die, she no cry.

She marry much younger guy.And poetry! I like!

Albert9989
03-01-19, 23:17
Some surprises found in DIA, usually my criterias are 18 to 30, sometimes to 25, and here I had a contact from a 46 yo.

Herself quite good looking, but she say can't video because of all childs sleeping with her.

I ask how many. 4 !

I ask how old, 21,18,17,12. Heyy.

I ask girls or boys.

She says two first are girls, oh.

But older is lesbian, WTF.

So I ask about second one, and she says she is not lesbian.

Then she wanted to sleep, so we left.

But. Interesting to see where this goes, not very usual, but seems that when mum is getting old, then she is reeady to consider daughters.

As I am not in Phil, I will not go too far, but if someone want to follow I can give contact.

VictorHugo99
03-02-19, 05:21
Thanks my friend for summarizing with such subtility the reality of OFL.

Vic.


And poetry! I like!

Engine Driver
03-02-19, 21:10
She no study, she no care.

She go marry a millionaire.

When he die, she no cry.

She marry much younger guy.Hey CM, I'm nominating you for the Pulitzer.

PinaLove
03-03-19, 02:20
Some surprises found in DIA, usually my criterias are 18 to 30, sometimes to 25, and here I had a contact from a 46 yo.

Herself quite good looking, but she say can't video because of all childs sleeping with her.

I ask how many. 4 !

I ask how old, 21,18,17,12. Heyy.

I ask girls or boys.

She says two first are girls, oh.

But older is lesbian, WTF.

So I ask about second one, and she says she is not lesbian.

Then she wanted to sleep, so we left.

But. Interesting to see where this goes, not very usual, but seems that when mum is getting old, then she is reeady to consider daughters.

As I am not in Phil, I will not go too far, but if someone want to follow I can give contact.What in that conversation gives you any hope?

Pinaypounder
03-03-19, 19:04
Super attractive girls like that do not waste their time talking to middle aged foreign men on DIA. They have enough wealthy local sponsors already (politicians, businessmen) and have sufficient, young Filipino cock each night to keep them satisfied. Who do you think the young, fully ripped, Filipino male models and TV stars fuck?

The only things an old western monger can offer these hotties are a shrivelled cock which doesn't always work, saggy skin, a bald head and 40 years' of baggage (after being beaten up by AW). A super attractive girl on dating sites will almost always be a prop used by a scammer.

If you have a look at this girl's IG, she has pictures from a lot of countries and has done a few product placements. I'm sorry guys, but she's a bit beyond our league.

However, Smooci does have a few models from time to time in the 10-20 K range for ST. I've seen a few stunners in Burgos bars that come close to that for 10 K LT. Just point and shoot or just click yes on your phone.Only a fool marries above his head in a foriegn country, marry a horny 7 or 8, the 9 and 10 know they are nines and tens, and most pussy and mouths are the same. Get a loyal horny girl, who needs the trouble of worrying where your girl is at.

Thin wet and open minded are my criteria and there are millions of those!

HelloMan2
03-12-19, 09:53
Using Badoo for the first time. My profile's popularity rating went from zero to "Very High" (max level) in one day. So I'm thinking this is just a ploy to boost my ego "oh look, you so popular" to make me pay for their membership. What's you guys' experience with this?

Kabul Guy
03-12-19, 22:50
Using Badoo for the first time. My profile's popularity rating went from zero to "Very High" (max level) in one day. So I'm thinking this is just a ploy to boost my ego "oh look, you so popular" to make me pay for their membership. What's you guys' experience with this?Common way to entice you in. On one site I have more messages then I have views so the site is generating messages to get me to pay for the membership to read them.

Even a legit site will promote the hell out of a new membership to generate a huge number of attractions initially. (Add in that the girls have been on the site a while and are looking especially at the new members, just like we do. Why do you think sites like SA have the ability to sort by date joined, the girls do it too.).

HelloMan2
03-13-19, 08:42
Common way to entice you in.You're right, just another trick. Also because I'm a new member so there was more interest in my new profile. Today my profile is back to "Low" popularity LOL.

Jingo10
03-14-19, 07:59
Using Badoo for the first time. My profile's popularity rating went from zero to "Very High" (max level) in one day. So I'm thinking this is just a ploy to boost my ego "oh look, you so popular" to make me pay for their membership. What's you guys' experience with this?I am confused, you can see who viewed you and can message them for free, the girls will quickly want to exchange WA or messenger details. So you can get chatting to girls and maybe line up meets before you get there, all for free, what's the problem?

TurdyCurdyOne
03-21-19, 02:40
More up to date info on DateinAsia.

In addition to the info here, you can.

Get help in creating an account on DIA.

I have had tons of experience with DIA.

From 10 years ago until today.

The admins on DIA are a bunch of anal-retentive.

Morons who ban and delete accounts for.

No reason, often based on anonymous.

BS complaints by other users. In other.

Words if some user simply does not like you.

You will get banned. Don't believe me?

Try googling DIA and you will find it to be one of.

The lowest rated dating sites on the web.

I have had fake accounts on this.

BS site for about 3 months now.

The admins think they are so smart, but.

I guess not smart enough. For normal users.

It is almost impossible to create.

A fake account or even an anonymous account.

Since they do not allow proxies or Tor.

It is necessary to do this to avoid being mistreated.

By the admins of this site, who are hypocrites since they will.

Bombard you with computer generated fake female profiles the.

Moment you login. Some of these I suspect are the admins themselves, trying.

To spy on users. But to be honest, all the work I did to find out how to.

Subvert their filters was hardly worth it, because the amount of good profiles on the.

Site is minuscule.

I would post more info here, but since my last post to another forum here.

Went unanswered, I am not feeling too generous.

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Jingo10
03-21-19, 12:17
More up to date info on DateinAsia.

In addition to the info here, you can.

Get help in creating an account on DIA.

If you visit the blog **************.Well that was a bit of a rant, OK DIA is not perfect but you have to use whatever tools you have available.

Regarding the blog it reads like someone has been out there too long and has become bitter and twisted.

Mongering should be fun and it doesn't come across that way. Most of us come for a few weeks and it is good to hear from expats living 'the dream' but sometimes you do wonder if they do still enjoy their time.

Anyway it's not put me off my impending month in Phils but good luck.

Sammon
03-22-19, 01:42
Fact is DIA does not care. It is quite popular in Philippines and has tons of members. Totally free to join and send messages. So they will ban people without even bothering to check if some nasty thing really happened.

Having said that I have been very successful in finding pretty young girls to have sex and travel. I wish they would have made a separate website for ladyboys. I do not know why ladyboys think they should be liked by everyone even if we are straight and least bit interested in them.

Since I started insisting cam to cam chat before making plans I have not been duped. Before that I had a real issue making plans to be with but finding out on meeting. Awkward moment at the reception area of the hotel.

Albert9989
03-22-19, 01:56
Fact is DIA does not care. It is quite popular in Philippines and has tons of members. Totally free to join and send messages. So they will ban people without even bothering to check if some nasty thing really happened.

Having said that I have been very successful in finding pretty young girls to have sex and travel. I wish they would have made a separate website for ladyboys. I do not know why ladyboys think they should be liked by everyone even if we are straight and least bit interested in them.

Since I started insisting cam to cam chat before making plans I have not been duped. Before that I had a real issue making plans to be with but finding out on meeting. Awkward moment at the reception area of the hotel.Same opinion about DIA, I use it since several years, very nice contacts met here, never been banned, usually I ask for messenger ID ASAP, or whatsapp, or anything else, and we continue there. DIA is only the way to do 1st contact, free, and lot of girls there. No issue at all for me.

Mr Enternational
03-22-19, 09:04
I wish they would have made a separate website for ladyboys. I do not know why ladyboys think they should be liked by everyone even if we are straight and least bit interested in them.I say that shit all the time about these websites and apps. They at least need to make a separate category. Any other time mfs will be saying it is what is on the inside that counts. Well the inside of a ladyboy's dna and chromosomes don't lie. They are still saying it is a male, no matter how it feels or looks on the outside.

Member #1088
03-22-19, 18:34
Same opinion about DIA, I use it since several years, very nice contacts met here, never been banned, usually I ask for messenger ID ASAP, or whatsapp, or anything else, and we continue there. DIA is only the way to do 1st contact, free, and lot of girls there. No issue at all for me.Well I wish I had the same luck. I keep it very clean in DIA, move to FB / VIBER / IMO / LINE / SKYPE / Mobile very fast, but I still get dropped. Right now I am accessing their database using browsing only and getting fb / viber / mobile / whatapp info from their profile.

Albert9989
03-22-19, 18:47
Well I wish I had the same luck. I keep it very clean in DIA, move to FB / VIBER / IMO / LINE / SKYPE / Mobile very fast, but I still get dropped. Right now I am accessing their database using browsing only and getting fb / viber / mobile / whatapp info from their profile.That's strange, and surely not the best way as those who write their FB or Whatsapp in their profile are more professional than others.

Member #1088
03-22-19, 19:10
That's strange, and surely not the best way as those who write their FB or Whatsapp in their profile are more professional than others.Well, you are right, but it is better because it is a good chance that a good introduction can be accomplished.

Niteluvr
03-22-19, 21:01
Same opinion about DIA, I use it since several years, very nice contacts met here, never been banned, usually I ask for messenger ID ASAP, or whatsapp, or anything else, and we continue there. DIA is only the way to do 1st contact, free, and lot of girls there. No issue at all for me.I've only used DIA about 3 months without any issues. When I first joined, I was getting likes and such literally every 15 seconds when I logged on each day. Guess the ladies know how to find new meat. Now, after 3 months, the number of women who contact me is down to a trickle.

Question: Are the ladies coming on to you or are you contacting them first?

Albert9989
03-22-19, 21:32
I've only used DIA about 3 months without any issues. When I first joined, I was getting likes and such literally every 15 seconds when I logged on each day. Guess the ladies know how to find new meat. Now, after 3 months, the number of women who contact me is down to a trickle.

Question: Are the ladies coming on to you or are you contacting them first?Answer is both, many visits and likes are over 40,60 some time, but from time to time some lower than 25 are coming too.

And I use also the banner on top which shows easily who is online amongst your filters.

Sammon
03-23-19, 03:06
I've only used DIA about 3 months without any issues. When I first joined, I was getting likes and such literally every 15 seconds when I logged on each day. Guess the ladies know how to find new meat. Now, after 3 months, the number of women who contact me is down to a trickle.

Question: Are the ladies coming on to you or are you contacting them first?Depends on the age group you put. You will get lots of likes from older age group and also messages. My target group is 28-24. I get some likes and some messages. I send messages more often. I get replies 50-50. Continuation is 25 percent of that. Ends up with roughly 10 percent landing in the city of my choice. Meeting 3-5 and end up with 2-3 for fun. Ending up with 1-2 for many days together. This is my normal pattern.

Other equation is having myfavourite girl meeting me in the airport and ending up eith her rest of my stay. In case I do not like her after one day ditch her and chat with next one. I am a LT type of guy mainly because sex gets better. There are times my plans have upended and have to quickly find replacements. But fortunate plenty are available on short notice.

Niteluvr
03-23-19, 04:09
Answer is both, many visits and likes are over 40,60 some time, You saying that you get likes from 40-60 year olds?

Albert9989
03-23-19, 09:08
You saying that you get likes from 40-60 year olds?Yes, visits are from all ages, but I am 65, maybe that's the reason, just ignore and answer only to 18 25 .

Amadeuss
04-08-19, 14:37
Pinalove (and the sister site Thaifriendly) did allow you to communicate with any girl. Within a sending period of 10 minutes. That could be annoying. But the site was for free. And you could say whatever you want. Be it fuck, sex, money, cock, pussy without being banned, as it happens on DIA.

Now they change their concept. You must pay a fee to start a communication. Even previous communications you can't continue if you are not registered as a so called Prime Member.

Don't support profiteering!

Comrades in Lust: quit Pinalove.

GDreams
04-08-19, 18:09
Pinalove (and the sister site Thaifriendly) did allow you to communicate with any girl. Within a sending period of 10 minutes. That could be annoying. But the site was for free. And you could say whatever you want. Be it fuck, sex, money, cock, pussy without being banned, as it happens on DIA.

Now they change their concept. You must pay a fee to start a communication. Even previous communications you can't continue if you are not registered as a so called Prime Member.

Don't support profiteering!

Comrades in Lust: quit Pinalove.I just sent a message as a free member.

Goferring
04-09-19, 01:05
I just sent a message as a free member.Sending a message to the more popular girls requires a paid account but that's always been the case.

GDreams
04-09-19, 08:36
Sending a message to the more popular girls requires a paid account but that's always been the case.Yes, I don't bother with those girls. More than enough I can contact that suit my tastes as a free member.

Amadeuss
04-09-19, 19:14
Sending a message to the more popular girls requires a paid account but that's always been the case.I have to correct you: just very view girls had been so called "Popular" I would say perhaps 5%.

Now all the girls below 35 are "popular". Its a change of business concept. Check it out.

GDreams
04-12-19, 10:28
I have to correct you: just very view girls had been so called "Popular" I would say perhaps 5%.

Now all the girls below 35 are "popular". Its a change of business concept. Check it out.It seems you are singled out for special treatment or you just like the fatties with pretty faces that are the popular girls. I have no trouble messaging girls 18 - 23 and did so today.

Goferring
04-14-19, 01:45
I have to correct you: just very view girls had been so called "Popular" I would say perhaps 5%.

Now all the girls below 35 are "popular". Its a change of business concept. Check it out.I was using PL's definition of "popular". I'm still able to message the majority of girls from an unpaid account but occasionally get a message saying the girl is popular and only paid members can message her. These do seem to be the prettier girls in the more common destinations.

I have no idea why you are unable to message all under35's.

Enjoy. G.

Red Kilt
04-14-19, 02:24
I'm still able to message the majority of girls from an unpaid account but occasionally get a message saying the girl is popular and only paid members can message her. I decided to check out PL again for myself after this discussion because I haven't opened it for at least 4 months.

No problem messaging almost anyone if desired. Not sure what is Amadeus' restriction.

One thing very apparent to me is that more than 50% of the girls on PL are the same tired faces I saw 3 months ago. They are certainly stayers and playing the long game.

Mr Enternational
04-14-19, 03:30
One thing very apparent to me is that more than 50% of the girls on PL are the same tired faces I saw 3 months ago. They are certainly stayers and playing the long game.That is the internet dating game in general. There are free chicks in various countries that I have been fucking for 10 years that are still on the sites that I met them on (just like I am!)

WhatDHell
04-14-19, 04:23
It seems you are singled out for special treatment or you just like the fatties with pretty faces that are the popular girls. I have no trouble messaging girls 18 - 23 and did so today.He's not the only one. I stop am facing the same problem now when I reactivated my account after a few months. Almost every girl is in the 'popular' category.

Goferring
04-14-19, 05:13
One thing very apparent to me is that more than 50% of the girls on PL are the same tired faces I saw 3 months ago. They are certainly stayers and playing the long game.The tide has turned for the girls' motivation to go online. Originally their aim was to meet Mr Suburbia, get married and emigrate to his home country. Now, with the volume of guys online, girls can amass several sponsors who are willing to send them allowances every month all year round. The guys may only visit once a year so the girls can stay at home, party with their friends, earn better money and work less than a permanent relationship. They can continue doing this for many years.

I've had several girls cease communications when they realise that I'm actually in town and actually want to meet NOW.

Kabul Guy
04-14-19, 06:52
.....

I've had several girls cease communications when they realise that I'm actually in town and actually want to meet NOW.I also have had several who stopped as soon as I said I was in Manila, flip side is more have moved to higher interest levels when they find I am in Manila so overall it is to my benifit.

I do wonder how many girls make a living off of a few sponsors who never if ever come to visit them.

Anyone else ever see a guy walk out of customs and immigration at the airport look around hopefully then start to look worried? My buddy was picking me up once and he was delayed in traffic but there was at least one guy with the look of realization on his face that said he had been scammed and the pina cutie he had been sending money to was not going to show up. Many calls and texts went unanswered.

Almost felt sorry for the poor smuck.

Wicked Roger
04-14-19, 10:14
IAnyone else ever see a guy walk out of customs and immigration at the airport look around hopefully then start to look worried? My buddy was picking me up once and he was delayed in traffic but there was at least one guy with the look of realization on his face that said he had been scammed and the pina cutie he had been sending money to was not going to show up. Many calls and texts went unanswered.

Almost felt sorry for the poor smuck.One had a large bunch of flowers at the Terminal 2 - clearly waiting for a cutie whose ticket he had paid for. Very happy and smiling and I chatted to him while I was waiting (my one turned up as reliable). He was truly pissed and sad when she was a no show. I advised he go to PAL office and ask about her see if her name on the manifest etc. But whatever the outcome (I did not stay around) he was conned. So many of them sadly.

Goferring
04-14-19, 11:00
I also have had several who stopped as soon as I said I was in Manila, flip side is more have moved to higher interest levels when they find I am in Manila so overall it is to my benifit.

I do wonder how many girls make a living off of a few sponsors who never if ever come to visit them..I'd agree that girls who don't want to make immediate face to face contact are in the minority though still substantial. Of course, some could also be 48 yo Nigeruan guys rather than 23 yo pina hotties playing a long con.

I'd also agree that being in town is also a great benefit. I've posted many times that I don't even send a message now until I'm at least in country, preferably in town.

I know many girls who have the best of both worlds: income from several long term but seldom visiting sponsors and happy to meet guys for ONS fun or cash. More than one are so busy that they actually screen guys and any that don't press the right buttons are redirected to a friend.

Amadeuss
04-15-19, 18:05
I decided to check out PL again for myself after this discussion because I haven't opened it for at least 4 months.

No problem messaging almost anyone if desired. Not sure what is Amadeus' restriction.

.Please try yourself. This are the first one in the browsing row just now. All got this indication that they are popular and only acessible through paid membership:

/ Ladynimf30.

/ ReinaM597.

/ enna99.

In case you can contact them for free. Then I got a nasty supercookie.

Member #1088
04-16-19, 17:46
Please try yourself. This are the first one in the browsing row just now. All got this indication that they are popular and only acessible through paid membership:

/ Ladynimf30.

/ ReinaM597.

/ enna99.

In case you can contact them for free. Then I got a nasty supercookie.Sometimess when you wait until later on or next day you can still send to popular.

TurdyCurdyOne
04-18-19, 12:09
More up to date info on DateinAsia.

In addition to the info here, you can.

Get help in creating an account on DIA.

I have had tons of experience with DIA.

From 10 years ago until today.

The admins on DIA are a bunch of anal-retentive.

Morons who ban and delete accounts for.

No reason, often based on anonymous.

BS complaints by other users. In other.

Words if some user simply does not like you.

You will get banned. Don't believe me?

Try googling DIA and you will find it to be one of..DIA is even worse than I thought. Filled with princesses and westernized young Filipinas. Social media has ruined them and them for us.

Plus there are lots of ladyboys who frequently do not tell you they are ladyboys, so you need to ask if any doubts. Even then you are not guaranteed they will be honest with you, unlike in the USA Where lying can get you killed. (even in the Philippines as a recent case in Manila confirms).

Also the quality of the women has gone way down. Not only can you not usually tell if they are fat, since the idiot admins don't allow full body shots in photos, only headshots, but they are just plain ugly most of them-big noses, flat chests, fat, old looking. And they almost always have that stupid look in their eyes, similar to a chimpanzee.

Their profiles are almost always vacuous, saying the cam cr*p over and over. Meaningless drivel because they are too stupid to write intelligently or their profile is fake, sometimes put there by admins of the site to check on men writing them. Witness the girl from Thailand that speaks perfect, educated English at a college level, but only after she has tried to fake you out with pidgin English. They all scream they want "serious" and "honest" but they themselves are frequently lying and dishonest.

Plus you have many fake, computer generated, often shill admin accounts bothering you.

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Camieleke
04-18-19, 12:58
I also can send msg as a free member but only 1 msg every 10 minutes.

Camieleke
04-18-19, 13:06
I have been out in IA for 2 years now.

That time when I was closing my account I get a msg that my account is blocked. But anyway I find a Philipina GF there and was 2 years in a LDR but.

Keeping an LDR is very difficult. First I travelled all the time to HK and then to Canada.

Anyway we stopped in friendship but now I like to reopen my DIA again and my account is still blocked.

I tried another phone etc. But I think once they see my pic or some other details they immediately block. Sad.

Any ideas how I can get in?

Amadeuss
04-19-19, 16:53
I have been out in IA for 2 years now.


I tried another phone etc. But I think once they see my pic or some other details they immediately block. Sad.

Any ideas how I can get in?Happened to me many times. I got back by:

New phone (android) + New email + New number + New pic + New FB account. And then only use that phone to open DIA. Now I am in since 5 months again.

TurdyCurdyOne
04-21-19, 00:26
*Added: DIA is even worse than I thought. Filled with princesses and westernized Filipinas. Social media has ruined them and them for us.

Plus there are lots of ladyboys who frequently do not tell you they are ladyboys, so you need to ask if any doubts. Even then you are not guaranteed they will be honest with you, unlike in the USA Where lying can get you killed. (even in the Philippines as a recent case in Manila confirms).

Also the quality of the women has gone way down. Not only can you not usually tell if they are fat, since the idiot admins don't allow full body shots in photos, only headshots, but they are just plain ugly most of them-big noses, flat chests, fat, old looking. And they almost always have that stupid look in their eyes, similar to a chimpanzee.

Their profiles are almost always vacuous, saying the cam cr*p over and over. Meaningless drivel because they are too stupid to write intelligently or their profile is fake, sometimes put there by admins of the site to check on men writing them. Witness the girl from Thailand that speaks perfect, educated English at a college level, but only after she has tried to fake you out with pidgin English. They all scream they want "serious" and "honest" but they themselves are frequently lying and dishonest.

Plus you have many fake, computer generated, often shill admin accounts bothering you.

Goferring
04-21-19, 08:52
Happened to me many times. I got back by:

New phone (android) + New email + New number + New pic + New FB account. And then only use that phone to open DIA. Now I am in since 5 months again.In all seriousness, what makes DIA so special that it's worth the effort? There are other less restrictive apps that don't ban members at will.

Why are users putting so much effort into reestablishing accounts?

Goferring
04-21-19, 08:56
Not only can you not usually tell if they are fat, since the idiot admins don't allow full body shots in photos, only headshotsThis is not confined to DIA. PL especially did allow provocative cleavage and bikini shots that screamed "available for cash" but now it's very rare to see anything but head shots and civilian clothes.

Enjoy. G.

Amadeuss
04-21-19, 21:32
In all seriousness, what makes DIA so special that it's worth the effort? There are other less restrictive apps that don't ban members at will.

Why are users putting so much effort into reestablishing accounts?#1 -- its the only real free site with a sheer big number of girls online. Even Pinalove is upselling massive now and only old leftovers you can contact for free. Badoo is useless in the Philipines. And FB needs a lot of referrals. Only the "Walker" groups do work for a quick meet.

#2 -- its point and click for a short time shag. If you contact girls who are online, you can immediately sort out to meet them now. Pay sites attract the "serious" girls for a long term relationship.

Pay sites won't ban you. Because then they would loose business. Logic. Haa?

Member #1088
04-22-19, 14:22
#1 -- its the only real free site with a sheer big number of girls online. Even Pinalove is upselling massive now and only old leftovers you can contact for free. Badoo is useless in the Philipines. And FB needs a lot of referrals. Only the "Walker" groups do work for a quick meet.

#2 -- its point and click for a short time shag. If you contact girls who are online, you can immediately sort out to meet them now. Pay sites attract the "serious" girls for a long term relationship.

Pay sites won't ban you. Because then they would loose business. Logic. Haa?"Walker"?

The difference I think is that in DIA has lot of options and is farily quick to connect, pinalove you have to be more patience if you can only send every 10 min a msg.

Member #1088
04-22-19, 22:12
There is nothing like a well trained mate.

Today I was lucky, I found a lady in PL, she broke up with her ex foreigner BF.

She left him because she got tired, he sexed her 9 times per day and it was too much for her.

But she broke with him a month ago and now she was in need.

15 min later after we spoke we cam.

And just chatting, I suggested few things and.

WOW, she cum so many times that she will have to wash her sheets tomorrow.

LOL.

Nothing asked except for load which I think it was a good deal.

20 yrs, college student, only had her ex BF before who took her v a year ago.

Thank you ex BF, for such a good training, but 9 times per day. A bit much LOL.

BrainDrain
04-23-19, 09:18
"Walker"?"Walke" refers to the Filipino colloquial term for a girl who will take a walk with a man for money IE go for sex.

Red Kilt
04-23-19, 12:25
I have commented before about how filipinas generally seem clueless about their height and weight and there are all sorts of anomalies on the dating sites (like pinalove).

There are also clever ones who think that increasing the height and lowering their weight (as well as putting Manila as residence even if its somewhere else) will hook guys into contacting them.

One woman: 5 ft 8 ins and 110 lbs.

I asked her was she really 5 ft 8 ins as that is into possible ladyboy territory and I got the predictable "hahaha no I am only 5 ft 1 in".

I told her she was a time-waster and no sensible guy would be interested in her if her profile is bullshit, then blocked her.

Several others with silly postings like "120 kgs" (obviously confusing kgs with lbs) and 2 others with ages of 92 yo and 85 yo.

Very annoying time wasters.

I saw this profile today. A sweet picture and her caption was looking for fun:

162 cm / 5 ft 3 in; 85 kg / 187 lbs.

I wrote to her asking was she really 85 kg as that's heavier than me by a long way and I assumed she had just guessed it.

Her reply was "Hi. Nice to meet you. Yes. I am big for my height".

Has to be understatement of the year.

Someone who is 5 ft 3 ins and 85 kg is definitely in "beached whale" territory.

Member #1088
04-23-19, 18:58
"Walke" refers to the Filipino colloquial term for a girl who will take a walk with a man for money IE go for sex.Oh I thought you mean an internet website likr pl or DIA.

Member #1088
04-23-19, 19:00
I have commented before about how filipinas generally seem clueless about their height and weight and there are all sorts of anomalies on the dating sites (like pinalove).

There are also clever ones who think that increasing the height and lowering their weight (as well as putting Manila as residence even if its somewhere else) will hook guys into contacting them.

One woman: 5 ft 8 ins and 110 lbs.

I asked her was she really 5 ft 8 ins as that is into possible ladyboy territory and I got the predictable "hahaha no I am only 5 ft 1 in".

I told her she was a time-waster and no sensible guy would be interested in her if her profile is bullshit, then blocked her.

Several others with silly postings like "120 kgs" (obviously confusing kgs with lbs) and 2 others with ages of 92 yo and 85 yo.

Very annoying time wasters.

I saw this profile today. A sweet picture and her caption was looking for fun:

162 cm / 5 ft 3 in; 85 kg / 187 lbs.

I wrote to her asking was she really 85 kg as that's heavier than me by a long way and I assumed she had just guessed it.

Her reply was "Hi. Nice to meet you. Yes. I am big for my height".

Has to be understatement of the year.

Someone who is 5 ft 3 ins and 85 kg is definitely in "beached whale" territory.I ssk to see them in cam or current pic.

Pinaypounder
05-02-19, 05:14
So much effort made to hide identities, why? Are you married? If you are married that is fine I won't judge but if you are building fake accounts and hiding your identity then you have zero right to complain about the pinay being deceiving, who do you think taught them their tricks 99% of them are not smart enough to learn on their own.

I use my real fb account, I treat them like humans and with respect and I expect the same in return. Of course there are some scammers, most lb identify themselves, most fools can distinguish the fakes and I like chatting to the Scammers to learn about how many men are so stupid as to send them money.

I have met some high standard and high value women on DIA!

PP.

Goferring
05-03-19, 02:11
So much effort made to hide identities, why? Are you married? If you are married that is fine I won't judge but if you are building fake accounts and hiding your identity then you have zero right to complain about the pinay being deceiving, who do you think taught them their tricks 99% of them are not smart enough to learn on their own.This is also providing any malicious Pina with ample bargaining / blackmail tools. If the girls know you are scared of your real situation becoming known, this can be used against you. If you wear a wedding ring, say your married but interested in meeting new people and see what happens then nothing can be used against you.

I'm not suggesting giving out the wife's direct phone number but the more you kid yourself that you are hiding, the more that can be used against you in a SHTF moment.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
05-03-19, 04:35
Of course there are some scammers, most lb identify themselves, most fools can distinguish the fakes and I like chatting to the Scammers to learn about how many men are so stupid as to send them money.Some years ago I was on a site, probably a latin something or other and was talking to what I thought was a chick. I don't know what kind of vibes I was giving off, but all of a sudden they asked me if I was a scammer. I said yes. They replied, "I am a scammer too. Sorry about that. ".

D Cups
05-04-19, 14:24
I have commented before about how filipinas generally seem clueless about their height and weight and there are all sorts of anomalies on the dating sites (like pinalove)..Howdy RK, indeed, but most of the pinays with bigger boobs seem to know their cup size maybe a Bee or Cee if you are lucky. Many chicas in Dominican Republic, however, don't. I swear the average cup size of the Dominicanas is Dee despite their profiles saying A, B or C. And many are D D or Triple D. This is the main reason I go there! Many of of them fudge their height and weight, too, or just don't know. I always travel with a bag of quality brassieres and lingerie in various sizes to give to the girls as a prelude to modeling, photography and lovemaking. Cheers, mate. Hope to see you in September in Makati if you are available.

VictorHugo99
05-04-19, 21:51
Great advice big G as usual.

I normally present a clear "now separated", so no need to explain ring, or no ring, forgotten ring or suffer-ring!

Guess I did not expect to bring someone back home with me to fill my emotional emptiness, just someone to fill during my stay, that's all!

Vic.


This is also providing any malicious Pina with ample bargaining / blackmail tools. If the girls know you are scared of your real situation becoming known, this can be used against you. If you wear a wedding ring, say your married but interested in meeting new people and see what happens then nothing can be used against you.

I'm not suggesting giving out the wife's direct phone number but the more you kid yourself that you are hiding, the more that can be used against you in a SHTF moment.

Enjoy. G.

PedroMorales
05-17-19, 11:39
I delve into their site occasionally but they are now killing the goose that lays no eggs by saying you must buy a subscription to talk to perhaps 30% of their base. The minimum subscription is $25 or so for a month. This would only make sense if you were working within a month's window and were determined to get bang for your buck. But most guys are like me and casual browsers who might follow a diamond in the rough, if such exist.

I am not interested in following up 99% of those I chat with. I am looking for women who are "very open minded" IE have minds like sewers or who are educated and cultured (ha ha). Though I admit I am not their target audience, who is? Who would pay good money to give their wattsapp number to a hooker? I am sure Pinaylove know what they are doing but I don't.

One more thing. The hookers can fire off messages as often as they like and there is no way they paid for a subscription. What gives there?

PedroMorales
05-17-19, 13:33
I usually open several profiles at a time to decide who to respond to. Now, when I open profiles A, B, C, before I can choose A, it switches to say A is premium only. I would love to know how many pay up to get a hooker's digits. At this rate, they'll be the only ones left. I guess it must make business sense.

I have also randomly used kik but no great results yet.

Cuba Tourist
05-26-19, 04:20
I would love to meet as many of these women as possible but it is so hard to get them to come visit me. This is a bit of a rant so sorry. I would prefer for them to take taxi to my Hotel and I will pay for transport. I have gone to malls and waited HOURS for women who never showed up or showed up so late it was terrible. If they would come to my hotel I can wait by pool and I will pay for taxi up to 500 pesos which should cover it. Then we can swim and drink shakes by the pool so it is relaxing. If I have to wait in a mall, I get very tense. Why do all the women insist on meeting in malls? How can I arrange things so they are comfortable and not out of pocket without having to go traveling and wait forever for someone who may never show?

Mr Enternational
05-26-19, 04:26
I would love to meet as many of these women as possible but it is so hard to get them to come visit me. This is a bit of a rant so sorry. I would prefer for them to take taxi to my Hotel and I will pay for transport. I have gone to malls and waited HOURS for women who never showed up or showed up so late it was terrible. If they would come to my hotel I can wait by pool and I will pay for taxi up to 500 pesos which should cover it. Then we can swim and drink shakes by the pool so it is relaxing. If I have to wait in a mall, I get very tense. Why do all the women insist on meeting in malls? How can I arrange things so they are comfortable and not out of pocket without having to go traveling and wait forever for someone who may never show?Why don't you do all of your relaxing things, then when they arrive at the mall, you go to the mall? So just switch things around. When they tell you they are there, you tell them you are almost there and to wait.

Cuba Tourist
05-26-19, 04:27
Why don't you do all of your relaxing things, then when they arrive at the mall, you go to the mall? So just switch things around. When they tell you they are there, you tell them you are almost there and to wait.

Yes, that is one way to handle it. Thanks for the suggestion.

Cuba Tourist
05-26-19, 04:47
Yet another one refuses to meet at the hotel. Only Ayala Mall!

Cuba Tourist
05-26-19, 05:03
Now I found one who writes on her profile about true love.

She writes meme "Baby I am not free roght now I have a work, I have my friend whos going to meet you if that's okay" I say ok and she writes "If you fuck here how much you give here money?

Goferring
05-26-19, 05:21
Why don't you do all of your relaxing things, then when they arrive at the mall, you go to the mall? So just switch things around. When they tell you they are there, you tell them you are almost there and to wait.


Yes, that is one way to handle it. Thanks for the suggestion.Mr E is correct. Waiting for girls to turn up (or not) on time (or hours late) makes no sense at all.

I assume you are talking about Ayala Mall in Cebu. There are many hotels within easy walking distance where you can just lounge by the pool or just do your daily activities until they show up and then walk over to meet them. For new meetings, the no / late show percentage is so high that I don't even alter my daily plans until they are physically present. Just do what you want to do during the day and if they show, go meet them. If not, just continue with your day. Don't sit idly by waiting for them.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
05-26-19, 05:27
Now I found one who writes on her profile about true love.

She writes meme "Baby I am not free roght now I have a work, I have my friend whos going to meet you if that's okay" I say ok and she writes "If you fuck here how much you give here money?


Yet another one refuses to meet at the hotel. Only Ayala Mall!The first one probably wasn't a girl ready to meet guys anyway. Just a pimp with a group of girls s / he is promoting.

It's not unusual for girls not to want to meet guys sight unseen in their room. There are benefits to both him and her to meet on neutral territory first and then head back if everyone is happy. The cost of a coffee or Jollie Bee can be money very well spent.

Enjoy. G.

WestCoast1
05-26-19, 06:46
How can I arrange things so they are comfortable and not out of pocket without having to go traveling and wait forever for someone who may never show?Not regular girls from dating sites. For most pinay, the idea of walking directly into a stranger's hotel by herself is VERBOTEN. Pro's are fine with it, but many dating site girls aren't pro's. First meet will be on neutral ground.

Consider an Escort agency.

Mr Enternational
05-26-19, 08:30
Now I found one who writes on her profile about true love.

She writes meme "Baby I am not free roght now I have a work, I have my friend whos going to meet you if that's okay" I say ok and she writes "If you fuck here how much you give here money?1000 pesos. I fucked around on wechat the other day in Manila. This chick said she was laying down. I said why you did not invite me. She said you can come. I said okay give me the address. She said how much you give me. I said 1000 pesos. She said give me 2000. I said 1000. She said okay.

I got over there and we were fucking and she asked if I wanted to fuck her friend too. I said I don't even know how your friend looks. She said she is beautiful. She came out out the other room and I said hell yeah. So the 3 some started. Of course it was not the kind where they do each other. So finished and the friend went back to the other room. I handed over 1000 and was trying to call the friend in to get 1000 too. The first girl said give 500 for my friend. Okay. I handed over 500 and left.

Cbea20
05-30-19, 14:29
Some of them will want to sneak around the mall, or wherever, checking you out before they make their bet.


I would love to meet as many of these women as possible but it is so hard to get them to come visit me. This is a bit of a rant so sorry. I would prefer for them to take taxi to my Hotel and I will pay for transport. I have gone to malls and waited HOURS for women who never showed up or showed up so late it was terrible. If they would come to my hotel I can wait by pool and I will pay for taxi up to 500 pesos which should cover it. Then we can swim and drink shakes by the pool so it is relaxing. If I have to wait in a mall, I get very tense. Why do all the women insist on meeting in malls? How can I arrange things so they are comfortable and not out of pocket without having to go traveling and wait forever for someone who may never show?

George03
05-30-19, 18:20
Not regular girls from dating sites. For most pinay, the idea of walking directly into a stranger's hotel by herself is VERBOTEN. Pro's are fine with it, but many dating site girls aren't pro's. First meet will be on neutral ground.

Consider an Escort agency.Your probably right, but my first trip, I had two regular girls that came to the hotel the first night. However, I had skyped with the first one for a couple of weeks before, then we went to eat, listen to music, etc. The first night before coming to the hotel. I chatted with the other a couple of days, she met me right away upon arrival.

I have a small sample size, only three trips at this point. The first was as described above, a mixture of regular girls and pros. The next trip, I met girl number one again for a trip to Boracay, but had a few pros before meeting up. The last time was a short trip, so I didn't have the inclination to contact the dating site girls. I guess my theory, based on a limited sample size, is that it may be more likely for them to meet at the hotel after chatting, skyping, etc. That is what I would do anyway to make sure the girl looks like her pictures, and see if she seems like someone I want to spend some time with.

Kabul Guy
05-30-19, 22:14
Not regular girls from dating sites. For most pinay, the idea of walking directly into a stranger's hotel by herself is VERBOTEN. Pro's are fine with it, but many dating site girls aren't pro's. First meet will be on neutral ground.

Consider an Escort agency.Regular girls usually want to meet in public the first time, unless you have a chat history both text and video.

You can meet in the lobby, go to the bar or coffee shop and after the first cup or drink ask if she wants to go upstairs. If you have even the smallest bit of game and are presentable the answer is virtually always yes and then the fun can start.

I prefer that way too. If I don't want her to go upstairs for some reason, I can just excuse myself and leave. No drama at the door trying to kick her out after she gets inside.

With pro's no problem. They usually have a turn away fee of 1000 p or so. Pay and they leave happy for getting a 1000 for no work.

Kabul Guy
05-30-19, 22:26
Now I found one who writes on her profile about true love.

She writes meme "Baby I am not free roght now I have a work, I have my friend whos going to meet you if that's okay" I say ok and she writes "If you fuck here how much you give here money?That is an extreme example but the profile wanting true love and first message agreeing to come fuck for money is not.

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love. Once she sees that you are a foreigner she can drop the pretense because that is why you are both on line.

Everyone just ignores that she disappears a few times a week overnight and comes home stinking of sex with some blue notes in her purse.

It is all about saving face.

VictorHugo99
05-30-19, 23:44
Thanks KG for the real talk.

It's actually great to get help from you to know how to read between the lines.

Cheers,

Victor.


That is an extreme example but the profile wanting true love and first message agreeing to come fuck for money is not.

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love. Once she sees that you are a foreigner she can drop the pretense because that is why you are both on line.

Everyone just ignores that she disappears a few times a week overnight and comes home stinking of sex with some blue notes in her purse.

It is all about saving face.

Goferring
05-31-19, 02:20
That is an extreme example but the profile wanting true love and first message agreeing to come fuck for money is not.

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love. Once she sees that you are a foreigner she can drop the pretense because that is why you are both online

It is all about saving face.True. But then you also have profiles like this:

" 😋 LOL.

No photo no reply.

For fun only.

Not looking for chatmate".

It looks like my recent post that PL is cleaning up its act and restricting the girls to modest head shots and no dirty talk is no longer valid. There are now many girls making their intentions perfectly clear in their photos and profiles.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
05-31-19, 04:09
They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love.This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.

Kabul Guy
06-02-19, 02:11
This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.Not everything in the Philippines makes sense. The fact that they have the fear of being seen there is sufficient for them to say looking for love, until they know that they are dealing with a foreigner.

I have come across two women I have known on SA back home and dated a woman from there that was recognized by several male friends after she posted her profile.

Mogwai
06-02-19, 08:39
This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.It makes perfect sense to me. We all know that there are millions of Filipina's looking for a foreign boyfriend / sponsor, so for a Filipina chances are high that her sisters, nieces and female friends are on the dating sites as well. I'm pretty sure this doesn't apply to most American women.

Mr Enternational
06-02-19, 09:18
It makes perfect sense to me. We all know that there are millions of Filipina's looking for a foreign boyfriend / sponsor, so for a Filipina chances are high that her sisters, nieces and female friends are on the dating sites as well. But who is searching the profiles of the same sex is part of my point. So the chances of her sisters, nieces, and female friends seeing her on there are damn near zero.

PedroMorales
06-02-19, 09:48
But who is searching the profiles of the same sex is part of my point. So the chances of her sisters, nieces, and female friends seeing her on there are damn near zero.I was recognized on such a site.

Mogwai
06-02-19, 10:27
But who is searching the profiles of the same sex is part of my point. So the chances of her sisters, nieces, and female friends seeing her on there are damn near zero.I think they talk about it among eachother and then search for eachother's profiles to see what they look like. Or they even show their profiles to other girls.
Women share a lot more about what's going on in their lifes than men usually. And certainly in a family oriented society like the Phils.

Kabul Guy
06-02-19, 22:24
I was recognized on such a site.Since this thread started I saw a girl on SA that I had already met through PL.

I also went to my home city Tinder site and was looking through the offerings in preparation for a trip home later this summer. Saw a former Sugar baby there. (much smaller place than Manila but still saw her and recognized her even with new pictures.).

Whether they are actually seen or not; why they say "long term" or "just looking" is so that they have deniability in case friends or family see it which is their fear.

We can discuss the chances of seeing that but it is not the chance of it happening but the girls fear of it happening that drives the behaviours. I always wear a seat belt, knowing that the chance of actually needing it is very small but the fear or the possibility of being in an accident is what drives my behaviours.

Anyone getting fed up with pinas should browse through the Tinder offerings at home. My home city was full of fuglies, only about 2% of them would make the cut to get a second look on Manila Tinder due to being fat, overweight, demanding, massively inked (turn off for me) etc.

Mr Enternational
06-03-19, 04:17
Whether they are actually seen or not; why they say "long term" or "just looking" is so that they have deniability in case friends or family see it which is their fear.

We can discuss the chances of seeing that but it is not the chance of it happening but the girls fear of it happening that drives the behaviours.Still makes no matter because the only options are not I am a hooker looking for money or I am a hopeless romantic looking for a life partner. One could simply just write Hello on their profile.

Even funnier thing is that among some people there is still a taboo concerning meeting people online. I have met chicks in other countries (and even my own) that would not dare tell their family or friends that we met online. And y'all are saying these chicks don't fear their people finding out they were looking for love online, but only fear that they were found online looking for money.

OlderAndWiser
06-03-19, 11:18
This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.The typical scenario is for the male classmates / cousins to be on the dating sites then of course if he spotted her saying something too raunchy or dressed too hot this would be spread rapidly among all her friends.

Kabul Guy
06-03-19, 20:33
..... And y'all are saying these chicks don't fear their people finding out they were looking for love online, but only fear that they were found online looking for money.Exactly what we are saying.

The stigma of meeting on line here is not as strong as in the west. Even in the west it is dropping. I read somewhere now over a quarter of couples met on line. That is a significant number so any social shame of meeting on line will have to decline over time.

How else would a barrio girl meet, fall in love with a rich foreigner other than on line? Meeting in a bar may have a stronger shame here since we all know what bar girls are in reality.

Kabul Guy
06-04-19, 23:08
This comes out of a comment on the Smooci thread about numbers of mongers and providers.

I am curious about what the real numbers are. Is anyone aware of any impartial and empirical data on the numbers of providers, full or part time on the people involved in the sex trade?

I saw some that were totally ridiculous, one site claimed that the value of the international sex tourism exceeded the total tourist value for the country.

Also lots of definitional issues. If I come to the Philippines for purely sex tourism then I would be counted as a sex tourist, if I come for the diving and beaches and take a night out to have fun in a bar then am I a regular tourist or a sex tourist. One site claimed that anyone who while in a foreign country had sex or tried to have sex with someone other than a spouse that they were deviant sex crazed pervert and deserved whatever punishment came their way a thousand times over. LOL.

Anyone have any links to some impartial and realistic numbers?

Mr Enternational
06-05-19, 05:40
I saw some that were totally ridiculous, one site claimed that the value of the international sex tourism exceeded the total tourist value for the country.As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.

PedroMorales
06-05-19, 08:06
Lots of folk, beginning with the NGOs, benefit by begging up monger numbers. The big spenders anywhere are women which is why Thailand wants mongers out, women in. Outside of beer and other necessities, male mongers do not buy that much.

Naked Gunz
06-05-19, 10:27
Meeting in a bar may have a stronger shame here since we all know what bar girls are in reality.People are going to talk shit about these women, but are quite happy with taking the money from them. I recall maybe 10-12 years ago sitting on the porch of a bar in the Barrio near Subic after my ship pulled in there. The bar sat right on the National Highway and a bus stopped right in front of it. I will never forget the looks on the faces of the people on that bus. Hell, I almost hid MY face, but the girls never flinched.

Chocha Monger
06-05-19, 11:47
As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.A monger on a flight to the Philippines would probably suspect every foreign man aboard of being a current, former or future monger. Many of the Filipinas attached to the foreign geezers on the flights are former bar girls or freelancers. This contributes to the idea that every foreign man visiting or living in the Philippines is a monger. The tendency of Filipinas to approach foreign men with the intent to engage in paid sex can lead to the perception that there is a hidden hooker in each of them. Filipinos also believe that money is the only reason their women engage in sexual relations with foreign men, so that would make all foreigners involved in such relationships mongers.

Engine Driver
06-05-19, 11:49
As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.When I leave my country for the Philippines, on the plane there is usually only one or two single guys whom I would consider as a monger. As you correctly point out, the plane is full of Filipino families (and their cardboard boxes of foreign food and shit) going home to visit their relatives.

The obvious group of tourists you can pick out as coming to the Philippines purely for mongering are the young Korean jocks in their 20's. Everyone else disguises their visit as business, golf, diving or charity work.

Regarding KG's comment on numbers of mongers, it would be impossible to determine as no one is going to admit it.

Kagino0
06-05-19, 12:44
Even flying in to Clark or watching the crowd at Clark airport there are simply not that many single guys visiting. For the last week my experience in Angeles was there are not too many foreigners right now, probably a bit of low season. As previously mentioned the obvious exception are Koreans.

Kabul Guy
06-05-19, 22:13
As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.As in a lot of areas most people who generate these sorts of statistics have something to prove or gain from them.

An anti sex trafficking organization will inflate the numbers significantly, to secure funding from do gooder organizations to combat the traffic. After a few years they deflate the numbers to show how great they are then pull the same stunt in another city using their own false statistics as "proof" of how good they really are.

I am not much of one for the bars on Burgos or similar places but usually see more girls than mongers any time I am there, so I tend to agree with your assessment. I do see more guys with a long term girl, usually easy to tell by how easy they relate and how comfortable they are with each other, or the presence of family members than single guys on the hunt.

But still as an engineer and therefore a number's guy I like to know the real stats and the method behind the definition of the categories and the numbers.

Yes I am a nerd LOL.

PedroMorales
06-05-19, 22:57
But still as an engineer and therefore a number's guy I like to know the real stats and the method behind the definition of the categories and the numbers.

Yes I am a nerd LOL.Shouldn't be that hard but plane arrivals is hardly the metric. Take hotel accommodation in Angeles / Makati etc. Subtract retirees. Work out average stay. The monger money is substantial in a few areas but of little value outside of those areas, except for remittances.

Pampanga is a revenue generating area. That can be seen by money changers and businesses that send money back to the provinces. Look also at other businesses that cater for the monger. Much easier to do in Pattaya with its wall to wall bars showing sports Thais have no interest in.

Goferring
06-06-19, 00:38
Even flying in to Clark or watching the crowd at Clark airport there are simply not that many single guys visiting. For the last week my experience in Angeles was there are not too many foreigners right now, probably a bit of low season. As previously mentioned the obvious exception are Koreans.The same can be said of the geographical area given over to hunting. Walking Street et al represents a very small proportion of AC's land.

X Man
06-12-19, 15:28
Online profile says, "Wasting a good woman, it's like you wasting diamond".

I'll give her a point for using English, although she may have just copied it. It just strikes me as such a silly analogy that I had to share it. How does one waste a diamond? (Horrific song by Beyonce comes to mind).

X.

Goferring
06-14-19, 03:18
I delve into their site occasionally but they are now killing the goose that lays no eggs by saying you must buy a subscription to talk to perhaps 30% of their base. The minimum subscription is $25 or so for a month.


I usually open several profiles at a time to decide who to respond to. Now, when I open profiles A, B, C, before I can choose A, it switches to say A is premium only. I would love to know how many pay up to get a hooker's digits. At this rate, they'll be the only ones left. I guess it must make business sense.After reading a few posts like those above about the sites becoming less productive to unpaid members and the applicable access restrictions becoming a PITA I decided to have a look for myself.

Full disclosure: this is not a post about how I met 1000 chicks, fucked them all sideways and am now heading home. It's how I logged on as a unpaid member (my membership expired soon after returning home from my last trip), worked within the site's unpaid members' restrictions, sorted the accessible from the inaccessible 'Popular' girls and got the WA or Viber numbers for virtually all that I found attractive and built up a list of 'Popular' girls that I find gorgeous and can contact when I'm in country and activate my membership. I haven't written about converting contact numbers into fucks because that's unchanged from being a fully paid up member, been written about extensively in the forum many times and, I'm not yet back in the Philippines.

I used Pina Love because I'm most familiar with it but all the others would be similar.

Hopefully some guys with out paid memberships will find this useful.

Settings. Set your location to Manila to be widely attractive. Be prepared to say where you stayed last trip, are likely to return to next visit and that you have just left. Mine was a popular Shopping Precinct in Makati. Have an appealing profile showing what interests you in the Philippines and where you like to travel to.

Have your Search settings set to ages only. Many girls have no or incorrect location details so don't exclude them. Use 'Any' country and city. If someone is attractive you can ask where she is but if you specify only Manila girls you will miss those that have no or another location in their profile. Leave it totally open.

Time restrictions mean that you cannot send many messages and need to make them count. Girls will not wait 2 hours to have an interrupted conversation about how you like puppies and want to stay near the beach.

I only scanned the first page of girls online as I knew they were active and more likely to respond. I never messaged someone while they were offline. If I found someone attractive, I Favourited them for future reference and messaged, asking if they had a Viber or WA number. This was my first comment and got a 90% response rate with the number. It amused me that several replies were just a 'yes' and I had to ask again what the number actually was. I guess for some mearly having a viber account is a discussion point in itself. 4 asked if I was in Manila and I replied truthfully that I've returned home but am a frequent visitor, listed where I had been and where I normally stay in one chat. All replied with their number after 2 to 3 chats: important when sending individual messages is so time consuming.

While waiting for the messaging time limit to expire I would rescan the first page and Favourite more girls I found attractive. The messaging process would continue for those that were not Popular and could be contacted. Those that were Popular I just kept on file for future reference when I'm in country and / or activate my account.

I chose to Favorite vs Show Interest as I can unFavourite if I no longer need a reference of the girl's profile. Interest cannot be rescinded nor removed.

Once a girls number is received it should be put into a contact list ASAP. There are several reasons for the time urgency. Many girls shut or have blocked their accounts. When this happens your chats and her numbers within them are lost. WA and Viber profile photos are generally changed frequently and much more up to date than the most flattering ones on the dating sites. Use them to double check if she is still attractive. The busy girls delete their profile pictures to slow down the inrush when their inbox becomes overwhelming. If you haven't saved her details its easy to lose track of her. Many girls will discuss much more sensitive subjects on the one to one platforms rather than the web sites.

Now it is just the normal process of converting the numbers into meetings and, hopefully, productive sessions. Everyone has their own methods of doing this but personally, I don't even bother about chatting generally until I'm actually in country (even better in town).

Sure there will be the normal flakes and no shows but this process quickly delivers 100 numbers of attractive girls. I'd say that there are plenty of very attractive and willing girls that are not restricted with the Popular label, especially amongst those with no or incorrect locations in their profiles.

It also give a record of multiple very attractive girls that can be reached once membership is activated if they are needed.

In many ways I found this more productive than having open access from a paid up account. Blindly sending out 100 messages is not an option, so focusing on those that I found truly attractive and chatting when they were most likely to respond really paid dividends.

Its certainly more work than walking into a point and shoot bar but for those that enjoy the online girls it may be a good option.

Enjoy. G.

Kabul Guy
06-15-19, 00:03
A couple comments on Goferring's long and very informative post.

I follow this plan usually in my contacts, no matter what the site. First message asks for contact info and I also get about a 90% response rate. (Several just saying yes with no number. These go down the list as actual companions vs just a fuck.).

Pictures with identifiable Manila or Philippine backgrounds helps. Think the Globe at MoA, the airport showing some Cebu Pacific or other uniquely Philippine signs, a major mall entrance etc.

Also have a Philippine number for your WhatsApp and Viber.

Show that you have been here before, show that you know the lay of the land, when you ask where she is from, never say where is that, google it and make a comment on something there or near by.

The girls are sick of guys logging in from overseas, with no intention of actually meeting and just wanting naked video chats and pictures.

Finally, my rule is to immediately drop any girl who asks for money, just about unlimited time on this up until we have met but we all have had the following conversations.

You: Hi, This is Kabul Guy from <Tinder, PL, SA How are you today?

Her: I have trouble.

You: What kinds of troubles?

Her: Granny sick, nephew needs school, fees, I cannot pay my electric.

You: <block .

Wicked Roger
06-15-19, 02:23
Finally, my rule is to immediately drop any girl who asks for money, just about unlimited time on this up until we have met but we all have had the following conversations.

You: Hi, This is Kabul Guy from <Tinder, PL, SA How are you today?

Her: I have trouble.

You: What kinds of troubles?

Her: Granny sick, nephew needs school, fees, I cannot pay my electric.

You: <block .To that add.

1. can't go to school (don't ask why!

2. Typhoon has destroyed roof (check if she lives in the rea of the typhoon please, check it was a typhoon only very heavy rain.

3. I can't chat much with you as my mobile is broken. The screen needs replacing / battery won't charge fast / I am only borrowing to chat to.

Plenty more.

Mr Enternational
06-15-19, 03:42
First message asks for contact info and I also get about a 90% response rate. (Several just saying yes with no number. These go down the list as actual companions vs just a fuck.).This kills me. Are these chicks fucking retarded? Whenever they do that I just stop talking to them.

Amadeuss
06-15-19, 06:18
I used Pina Love because I'm most familiar with it but all the others would be similar.

Hopefully some guys with out paid memberships will find this useful.

G.Its all correct what you say. But sadly since a month or so they only allow non paid mebers to communicate for free with the older ladies--30 up. All the young and attractive ones require a premium mebership to communicate with.

Date in Asia remains the only full free dating site -- although it can be annoying with their kick-off policy.

Goferring
06-15-19, 10:13
Its all correct what you say. But sadly since a month or so they only allow non paid mebers to communicate for free with the older ladies--30 up. All the young and attractive ones require a premium mebership to communicate with.Everyone is welcome to their opinion but for clarity:

My post represents searches done over the last 7 days.

My Search age range was 18 to 28. I didn't consider or even view anyone older.

I found about 50% of those that I found attractive unblocked and got the contacts for the vast majority of these. The remainder were indeed blocked as 'Popular' but I've just kept their details for use later when I have a paid membership.

I'm sure that we find different girls attractive but I disagree that ALL the young and attractive girls are blocked. I certainly found it very easy to get the details of a good number with an unpaid membership. That's why I wrote the post.

One thing that I didn't emphasize in the post was that girls are both blocked and unblocked as popularity wanes. That's why it's important to record separately the contact details of an unblocked girl before your chats and her details become hidden. Conversely I Favorited several blocked Popular girls who could later be contacted as they became unblocked.

Best of luck with your Searches. G.

PedroMorales
06-15-19, 10:45
Its owners flag a lot of women as premium meat only, ie you must buy a package to chat with them. Often if you click on a woman's pictures, when you go back to her profile, she is Premium only. To circumvent this.

1. Open in new tab all women you are interested. Call these women A, B, C. You now have four tabs open: PL, A, B, C.

2. To view A's pictures, right click A into a new tab. You now have five tabs open: PL, A, B, C, A's pictures.

3. View A's pictures under the the fifth tab. Then return that tab to A's profile to contact A.

4. If A is now marked as premium (or if A was originally marked as premium), return the fifth tab to PL and contact someone else you may or may not be interested in. Proceed until you can send a message, let's say to the.

5. Now refresh the A tab. It will start counting down the 10 minutes to your next free message.

Goferring
06-15-19, 12:00
This kills me. Are these chicks fucking retarded? Whenever they do that I just stop talking to them.It depends on whose definition you accept. The PIs average IQ of 85 could be considered either 'Retarded' or 'Mentally Subnormal'. I'd agree that the average Internet Hooker could well be significantly below these ranges. 😁.

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

Queque the outraged PC brigade. 🤓.

Member #1088
06-15-19, 15:05
Everyone is welcome to their opinion but for clarity:

My post represents searches done over the last 7 days.

My Search age range was 18 to 28. I didn't consider or even view anyone older.

I found about 50% of those that I found attractive unblocked and got the contacts for the vast majority of these. The remainder were indeed blocked as 'Popular' but I've just kept their details for use later when I have a paid membership.

I'm sure that we find different girls attractive but I disagree that ALL the young and attractive girls are blocked. I certainly found it very easy to get the details of a good number with an unpaid membership. That's why I wrote the post.

One thing that I didn't emphasize in the post was that girls are both blocked and unblocked as popularity wanes. That's why it's important to record separately the contact details of an unblocked girl before your chats and her details become hidden. Conversely I Favorited several blocked Popular girls who could later be contacted as they became unblocked.

Best of luck with your Searches. G.The first one in the list, is a good one. She now knows foreigner man, when I spoke with her a few months ago she didn't have any experience, I just spoke with her again and she told me she had 2 foreigners one from uk and one from Germany I think. Too bad it wasnt me, the schedule of travel didn't work for me when I went there.

If you can get her priv pics, I would like to see them LOL LOL (the one that got away). here is the capture from her skype

Good luck with her.

Goferring
06-16-19, 01:38
The first one in the list, is a good one. She now knows foreigner man, when I spoke with her a few months ago she didn't have any experience, I just spoke with her again and she told me she had 2 foreigners one from uk and one from Germany I think. Too bad it wasnt me, the schedule of travel didn't work for me when I went there.

If you can get her priv pics, I would like to see them LOL LOL (the one that got away). here is the capture from her skype

Good luck with her.Thanks for that.

To confirm KGs earlier comments, she was certainly receptive to hear that I had been to her province before and will be in her town on my next visit (both true).

Cheers. G.

Member #1088
06-16-19, 13:58
Thanks for that.

To confirm KGs earlier comments, she was certainly receptive to hear that I had been to her province before and will be in her town on my next visit (both true).

Cheers. G.Go G go, I be cheering for you, please provide photographic report, LOL LOL LOL.

Dave_Far
06-23-19, 06:09
You arrange to meet a girl you've been messaging online though one of the dating sites. You arrange a time to meet for lets say coffee or dinner. You did your prescreening the best you could, looking at photos and her FB photos. Video chat would have been best but we're unable because of time difference.

When you finally see her in live and comes face to face with you, no amount of alcohol or viagra is going to get your dick up for this girl who you do not find attractive at all in the least bit.

What do you do?

You can't answer "I'm going to observe her from a distance and bail once I see she's a pig. " You're a foreigner. You're going to stick out. She'll spot you first.

Mogwai
06-23-19, 07:43
What do you do?Video chat when you're on the ground and then bail out if necessary.

Wicked Roger
06-23-19, 07:58
YWhat do you do?

You can't answer "I'm going to observe her from a distance and bail once I see she's a pig. " You're a foreigner. You're going to stick out. She'll spot you first.Why are you not chat cam with all girls before you even get to the Philippines. IF she turns out to be an aggressive LB when you first see her then what do you do then? Cam before any meeting is standard procedure for many including me.

EihTooms
06-23-19, 09:32
You arrange to meet a girl you've been messaging online though one of the dating sites. You arrange a time to meet for lets say coffee or dinner. You did your prescreening the best you could, looking at photos and her FB photos. Video chat would have been best but we're unable because of time difference.

When you finally see her in live and comes face to face with you, no amount of alcohol or viagra is going to get your dick up for this girl who you do not find attractive at all in the least bit.

What do you do?

You can't answer "I'm going to observe her from a distance and bail once I see she's a pig. " You're a foreigner. You're going to stick out. She'll spot you first.I can only reference my experiences like this in Thailand and not in the Philippines, but it probably still applies.

I used to worry about hurting the girl's feelings by bailing out as soon as possible. But then I came to realize she LIED to me in order to manipulate me into this awkward position. She LIED to me about the stats on her profile and all those doctored, shopped or long outdated photos and videos. Worse, the girls most likely to have LIED to me in order to bamboozle me into this position were almost always the ones who stated over and over again how important "honesty" is in a relationship. LOL. That's a con job.

Left unpunished by my bailing as soon as humanly possible, these fugly LIARS are always the ones who want to cling to me wherever we met in the mall, at a restaurant or on my soi, hold my hand, hook my arm in theirs, hug me in public so everyone thinks she is my girlfriend or some such shit.

Therefore, if the lady you encounter is really wildly different than the way she came across in her photos and profile, you have permission from the Gods of Honesty to bail as quickly as possible. Listen closely and you will hear those Gods demanding that you do so. It will only get worse for you the longer you linger in this awkward position. She will take greater advantage of your politeness. Pretend to take a call on your phone requiring your immediate attention elsewhere for the rest of the day or night, excuse yourself and leave. Maybe hand her enough money to cover the cost of her travel to and from the meeting place.

Member #4643
06-23-19, 14:17
You arrange to meet a girl you've been messaging online though one of the dating sites. You arrange a time to meet for lets say coffee or dinner. You did your prescreening the best you could, looking at photos and her FB photos. Video chat would have been best but we're unable because of time difference.

When you finally see her in live and comes face to face with you, no amount of alcohol or viagra is going to get your dick up for this girl who you do not find attractive at all in the least bit.

What do you do?

You can't answer "I'm going to observe her from a distance and bail once I see she's a pig. " You're a foreigner. You're going to stick out. She'll spot you first.This is not hard. The worst that happens is that you need to pay her cab fare. If you don't find the girl attractive, just say Hi and good bye.

This is a really hypothetical situation, because photos can be manipulated only to a certain extent. I have never met a girl who looked really pretty on the web, but was actually "a pig" in real life. Not as attractive- yes, but "a pig", never.

On the other hand, occasionally the girl that shows up is a different person than the one on the web. If that is the case, you have every right to just walk away.

Sammon
06-23-19, 14:18
You arrange to meet a girl you've been messaging online though one of the dating sites. You arrange a time to meet for lets say coffee or dinner. You did your prescreening the best you could, looking at photos and her FB photos. Video chat would have been best but we're unable because of time difference.

When you finally see her in live and comes face to face with you, no amount of alcohol or viagra is going to get your dick up for this girl who you do not find attractive at all in the least bit.

What do you do?

You can't answer "I'm going to observe her from a distance and bail once I see she's a pig. " You're a foreigner. You're going to stick out. She'll spot you first.It is easy to bail out if you meet her outside of your room. You can politely tell her she is not what you are looking for or tell her you have some urgent matters to attend to and cannot be with her. Just compensate for her travel. No girl likes to hear that she is ugly and unwanted and there is no need to hurt her feelings.

Personally I have met girls at a mall on their insistence and I have bailed out. Most often I expect them to come to my room. In the room it is kind of awkward to get rid of her right away. I do some chit chat and tell her I have a meeting to go to and do not have time. I lie and tell her I will call her later. Ofcourse I do compensate.

There is no point in hiding from her if the meeting place is public. Also you cannot fault her for doling out to look her best even if are cam chatting.

If the girl is reasonably okay I fuck her. Then let her go with some money. Only thing I hate is unhygienic pussy and body and mouth. Cannot get a hard on even with viagra.

GDreams
06-23-19, 15:12
The only time I bailed is I had organised to meet a chick, then another chick that was super hot agreed to come over that I had invited earlier but hadn't committed The first one turned up, she was a bit older than I expected though still reasonable. Fortunately she was off wechat and hadn't come far so I just made an excuse in the lobby, gave her 200 peso to cover travel when she probably walked and said goodbye. Two days later I was with another chick who became a problem and I asked her to leave. I saw the older chick on Wechat again, invited her over and banged her. Turns out she was quite a good root!

Mogwai
06-24-19, 07:49
This is a really hypothetical situation, because photos can be manipulated only to a certain extent. I have never met a girl who looked really pretty on the web, but was actually "a pig" in real life. Not as attractive- yes, but "a pig", never.Neither did I but it's not a hypothetical situation because quite a lot of (below) average looking girls have old pictures in their profile, from long gone days when they were still slim and pretty.

Mr Enternational
06-24-19, 10:32
It is easy to bail out if you meet her outside of your room. You can politely tell her she is not what you are looking for or tell her you have some urgent matters to attend to and cannot be with her. Just compensate for her travel. No girl likes to hear that she is ugly and unwanted and there is no need to hurt her feelings.If someone misrepresents themselves then fuck them and their feelings. That is just like the guy that posted a few weeks back about letting the ladyboy in his room because he didn't want to hurt feelings etc. If you go to McDonald's for a Big Mac and they put a chicken sandwich in the bag instead, you are not going to take the chicken sandwich back and still compensate them for inconveniencing you.

Goferring
06-24-19, 12:41
If someone misrepresents themselves then fuck them and their feelings.For me, it depends on the level of misrepresentation.

Simply using the most flattering photos and camera angles is just human nature and should be expected. Even Cindy Crawford doesn't look like Cindy Crawford in the flesh.

Photos from 10 years or 20 pounds ago is deception. Obviously 'forgetting' to mention your gender is the same.

For the first it's just thanks but no thanks. For the second there's no need for compassion. Just get up and walk away.

It should also be said that sometimes the guy wants to bail even though there has be no misrepresentation at all. I've met girls who have been as advertised but over coffee there has been absolutely no chemistry and I don't want to take it any further. In these cases I'm happy to refund her cost to get to Starbucks.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
06-24-19, 13:20
For me, it depends on the level of misrepresentation.

Simply using the most flattering photos and camera angles is just human nature and should be expected. Even Cindy Crawford doesn't look like Cindy Crawford in the flesh.Definitely that. That is why I akways ask for normal fotos with no make up and filters and stuff.

ForkTruck
06-24-19, 16:15
For the last several months I get recurring blank screens between clicks on ISG. Am I the only one this is happening to? Keep expecting admin to fix this if it's a bug in the website but after so long I am losing patience and thinking maybe it is on my end.

D Cups
06-24-19, 16:58
For the last several months I get recurring blank screens between clicks on ISG. Am I the only one this is happening to? Keep expecting admin to fix this if it's a bug in the website but after so long I am losing patience and thinking maybe it is on my end.I have been getting it, too.

Goferring
06-24-19, 20:04
For the last several months I get recurring blank screens between clicks on ISG. Am I the only one this is happening to? Keep expecting admin to fix this if it's a bug in the website but after so long I am losing patience and thinking maybe it is on my end.I don't get blank the blank screens you mention.

I do get pop ups which are a PITA. Perhaps you are getting these? They appear as blank screens if they are slow to load.

Sammon
06-24-19, 21:01
If someone misrepresents themselves then fuck them and their feelings. That is just like the guy that posted a few weeks back about letting the ladyboy in his room because he didn't want to hurt feelings etc. If you go to McDonald's for a Big Mac and they put a chicken sandwich in the bag instead, you are not going to take the chicken sandwich back and still compensate them for inconveniencing you.Misrepresentation is universal including the girls you meet in a bar in USA. Make up, wearing falsies to enhance boobs, demure and innocent talk etc to name a few.

Yes for P4 P meetups we are the buyer choosing. Girl will show up in her best dress (maybe only one she had), make up, padded bra. As we all know slender Philippine girls are not known for large boobs. I have met some with natural look especially if she knows she is attractive.

Meeting for the first time can be tricky on both. Nobody is forcing anybody to have sex. Both adults make conscious decision to accept or not. If not accepted compensation is a must as we all know they have limited means.

All I am saying is there is no need to be nasty unless it is ladyboy misrepresentation. Gender identity should be disclosed on first contact I believe. Most do once you ask for cam chat. Then cease contact.

I meet girls only after cam chat many times and discuss everything. They come straight to the room because we already know each other. Ones who do not have cam (these days everybody does or can do) I meet them outside and maybe buy them lunch or dinner and decide.

AussieGaigin
06-24-19, 21:37
I don't get blank the blank screens you mention.

I do get pop ups which are a PITA. Perhaps you are getting these? They appear as blank screens if they are slow to load.I get them too. They are pop up ads, which sometimes take a few seconds to load. Two solutions:

1) close them as soon as they appear, before they have a chance to load cookies on your HD.

2) After loading ISG, open the next window in a new tab / page, they won't show again.

Goferring
06-25-19, 07:56
Is anyone else getting a lot of hot girls online insisting that you send your WA, Viber etc number before the girl sends hers?

I assume it is feeding some scammer's databank as 'she' disappears as soon as she has your number.

Cheers. G.

Goferring
06-25-19, 09:15
I get them too. They are pop up ads, which sometimes take a few seconds to load. Two solutions:

1) close them as soon as they appear, before they have a chance to load cookies on your HD.

2) After loading ISG, open the next window in a new tab / page, they won't show again.I've since found out that these can be blocked.

In Chrome for Android go to Settings / Site Settings / Pop Ups and Redirects and turn them off. ISG may be listed by name.

AdBlocker Plus was also recommended to me but I could only get it for Samsung Internet not Chrome for Android which I use for accessing ISG.

Cheers. G.

Kabul Guy
06-30-19, 22:47
I got a PM asking about any police contact while mongering and thought that it would be an interesting discussion. The question was had I experienced any police contact while mongering or otherwise in the Philippines? Was there corruption?

Outside of routine contact with police and similar officials, I. E. Customs etc, I have not had any contact with any law enforcement agency in about 18 months total time in the Philippines. Closest was I would routinely drive past a PNP check point neat Butuan City when I was there a few years ago. I simply showed my foreign driver license and bill of sale (the registration was pending). After about 3 passes thorough the check point they just started waving me through, never any hint that they wanted donations to their Christmas fund or anything like that. (I also rode my bicycle past the check point most mornings and was never stopped, just a smile and a wave through.).

This is partly due to my mongering style, I hunt exclusively on the dating apps and am not a bar goer or even a late night out type.

Anyone have any contact with police? Positive or negative?

AussieGaigin
07-01-19, 04:39
I've since found out that these can be blocked.

In Chrome for Android go to Settings / Site Settings / Pop Ups and Redirects and turn them off. ISG may be listed by name.

AdBlocker Plus was also recommended to me but I could only get it for Samsung Internet not Chrome for Android which I use for accessing ISG.

Cheers. G.It's kinda funny. I keep getting pop-up ads on YouTube promoting. Pop-up Ad Blockers.

Pinaypounder
07-01-19, 20:17
I am mostly a polite guy (Canadian hey) so I had a date with a girl we met at the Mall, we chatted and then she said that she is only looking for a relationship and so I said OK I am not and I excused myself. She asked if I had wine in my room and I said yes, so she asked if she could come.

OK we hit the room have a drink then she again reminded me she wanted a relationship I said sorry I don't so I walked her to the door. At the door she asked for a kiss so with I kissed her.

Back in the door, now I am like FUKKKKKKKKK how to get rid of her I still had time to go out to get a fresh piece.

She ask if I have some music so I turned on some music and went to the bathroom.

I returned and sat far from her and she was in a chair I on the couch.

It was dark and then I noticed she had one leg up on the arm of the chair and her dress was hiked up and lo and behold she was naked and rubbing her baby maker. She had removed her panties while I was in the bathroom and apparently she saw me as rather fuckable.

It was surprisingly direct and forward for a Filipina. I did not need more prompting.

Needless to say she got well fucked and I learned a lesson and was rewarded for not lying. She turned out to be one of those crazy girls but wow could she suck cock.

Be honest and yeee shall be rewarded!

PP.