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Donnahito
07-02-19, 22:01
I am mostly a polite guy (Canadian hey) so I had a date with a girl we met at the Mall, we chatted and then she said that she is only looking for a relationship and so I said OK I am not and I excused myself. She asked if I had wine in my room and I said yes, so she asked if she could come.

OK we hit the room have a drink then she again reminded me she wanted a relationship I said sorry I don't so I walked her to the door. At the door she asked for a kiss so with I kissed her..Wow PP that sounded like quite the wild ride! If you don't mind me asking, how did you guys meet, just bumped into her at the mall and started talking?

Mr Enternational
07-03-19, 16:04
It was surprisingly direct and forward for a Filipina. I did not need more prompting.Weird that you did not pick up on the signals earlier since you even wrote about them in this post. That is why she had to be forward. She was thinking this guy has no clue. You were sitting there thinking about going to find a new chicks when you already have one in the room practically forcing herself on you. Come on man. You guys have to do better when it comes to women that are not bar girls.

Kabul Guy
07-03-19, 22:13
Sane.

Sexy.

Smart.

Pick two because you will never get all 3.

I have a hot SB found on SA, collage graduate with a real degree (not HRM LOL but in physics of all things) She got her monthly allowance, went out bought yoga pants, had an IV skin whitening treatment, signed up for a gym with personal trainer, had major hair and nail spa day. Next day when I refused to advance her allowance she had to pawn her phone to pay her rent.

Another regular, grad student, smartest philippina I have ever met (and I worked with several pina engineers in Afghanistan). Nice firm body but not good looking or good in bed.

I could go on. Anyone ever anywhere found all three in one?

WestCoast1
07-04-19, 03:34
Sane. Sexy. Smart.It depends on your meaning of sand and also smart. Due to upbringing and cultural differences, the girls here often do the *damdest* things (or that seem that way to me). Some of the things they do seem counter-intuitive and stupid. An example, like yours:

I landed and made my way to my condo. One of my regulars, who was aware that I was coming (but not which day), shot a txt as I was unpacking my suitcase. The usual emergencies, no foods and electric cut off. "Can you 2000"? I decided to walk the quarter mile to her brgy and visit with the family (they know me). A sweet surprise, if you will. Knocked on the door and mama invited me inside. Sure enough, power cut, and no foods. Looking about to see half a dozen family members cell-phoning free FB, I asked why they didn't pawn the father's phone, the girl's phone, and the brother's phone. That would turn on the electric and put food on the table for 2 days. "Ibaligya your cell phones". Complete blank stare from papa, mama, girl, brother. From the western perspective, food is more important than a phone. However, this is not the west. . .

Have run into this type of situation multiple times. You need money? "Yes, emergency for foods". Sell the TV-Plus and TV in your home first. "Buang Westy"!

Related story. You are probably aware of the situation in Venezuala, the unraveling of the social and economic fabric has been all over the news the past few years. In a somewhat surprising story in the news from about a year ago, as inflation was wildly out of control and the locals were having trouble purchasing anything in the stores as prices spiraled up out of control, they began trading things with each other, online, using social media. Pampers were traded for food. Other items were traded for transportation. And so on. Western reporters asked locals why they didn't sell their cell phones to pay for pampers or foods. Response: I need the phone for future trades; its better to be hungry with a phone, than fed without a phone (can't make future trades without a phone).

PedroMorales
07-04-19, 07:37
sell their cell phones to pay for pampers or foods. Response: I need the phone for future trades; its better to be hungry with a phone, than fed without a phone (can't make future trades without a phone).The casual visitor to the Philippines would see pawn shops full of real basics like rice cookers. Vulture capitalism at its rawest. Many of us will have picked up a hooker late at night who hadn't eaten all day long. One of my party pieces is to ask them how much they have in their pockets. Between 1 and 40 pesos is not uncommon. There are so many people living on the bread line in the Phils it is unreal. Know alls visiting them must be a real pain. If folk sold their phones, that would drive the price even further down. Asking them to sell their phones is akin to asking them, to sell a kidney.

Mr Enternational
07-04-19, 17:31
The usual emergencies, no foods and electric cut off. "Can you 2000"? I decided to walk the quarter mile to her brgy and visit with the family (they know me). A sweet surprise, if you will. Knocked on the door and mama invited me inside. Sure enough, power cut, and no foods. Looking about to see half a dozen family members cell-phoning free FB, I asked why they didn't pawn the father's phone, the girl's phone, and the brother's phone. That would turn on the electric and put food on the table for 2 days. "Ibaligya your cell phones". Complete blank stare from papa, mama, girl, brother. From the western perspective, food is more important than a phone.Food is not necessarily more important than a cell phone. It depends on what the cell phone is being used for. It can be used as a tool or as a toy. If it is used as a tool, then you definitely do not want to pawn it because it can be used to bring you money to buy food.

(One of my chicks in the Dumbinican Republic was talking about selling her computer because she didn't have money to pay for school. I said yeah bih and then how are you going to do your school work without the damn computer? For some reason she had not thought of that.)

But in the way that you said they were using it, fuck them! Six mfs sitting around playing games in the dark with no food and not 1 has sense enough to grab a newspaper and search the want ads and use the phone as a tool to find a damn job.

Again, fuck them! This is the exact reason why I will never send a woman money. Now I have been poor before and I have had to pawn shit before, but I have damn sure never been lazy as to sit on my ass in the dark with no food and not go out and look for an opportunity to better my living situation. Throw money down a hole because you can't get pussy back home if you want to. You are a mf fool. Either that or you didn't have to work for it. I will only pay as I go. None of that layaway pussy shit that you guys talk about.

Mr Enternational
07-04-19, 17:39
One of my party pieces is to ask them how much they have in their pockets. Between 1 and 40 pesos is not uncommon.I do the same thing when those broads decide they want to turn their nose up at 1000 pesos. Then when they say they only have 50 pesos I just stare at them. From now on I may start putting the 1000 on the table and stare back and forth at them and the money.

It is not uncommon for me to decide to take a chick from LA Cafe and if she is with a friend she asks me to give the friend money to get home. Shiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeddddd. She better find a customer the same way that you did!

Dg8787
07-04-19, 17:48
Sane.

Sexy.

Smart.

Pick two because you will never get all 3.

I have a hot SB found on SA, collage graduate with a real degree (not HRM LOL but in physics of all things) She got her monthly allowance, went out bought yoga pants, had an IV skin whitening treatment, signed up for a gym with personal trainer, had major hair and nail spa day. Next day when I refused to advance her allowance she had to pawn her phone to pay her rent.

Another regular, grad student, smartest philippina I have ever met (and I worked with several pina engineers in Afghanistan). Nice firm body but not good looking or good in bed.

I could go on. Anyone ever anywhere found all three in one?Lmao. Few mongers would score 2! Some would not even score 1.

Roll Aides
07-04-19, 18:23
Been there done that. This will not apply to visitors but if you live here, it is perfectly possible to get all three. How? Easy.

As Ron White said, you can't fix stupid. I would argue that you have very little chance of fixing sane. That leaves sexy.

Two out of three and send her ass to the gym, teach her how to dress and do hair and makeup, walk, and voila. Of course this pre-selects her being compliant and obedient, or since that is that not that uncommon here, at least you not being a fuckup that can't enforce expectations. And. Be. Obedient for a woman is a fairly large portion of sane. This is not rocket science. Six months with a personal trainer will turn any average chick into a bikini model, unless she is genetically deformed.

There is no average 7 Filipina that can't be improved into a 9 with training. This is the land of fucking opportunity, but you're going to have to go for fixer-uppers. Because natural smart hot sane women want nothing to do with aging mongers; they have opportunities. However, the gap between mediocre looks and instagram model is fixable with work, instruction and resources.

If your girl is doing retarded shit like IV skin whitening treatment, then you are in inadequate control of your girl. Yoga pants are for bitches that actually do yoga. Etc. Reduce her allowance and make sure the spending is being decided by you.


Sane.

Sexy.

Smart.

Pick two because you will never get all 3.

I have a hot SB found on SA, collage graduate with a real degree (not HRM LOL but in physics of all things) She got her monthly allowance, went out bought yoga pants, had an IV skin whitening treatment, signed up for a gym with personal trainer, had major hair and nail spa day. Next day when I refused to advance her allowance she had to pawn her phone to pay her rent.

Another regular, grad student, smartest philippina I have ever met (and I worked with several pina engineers in Afghanistan). Nice firm body but not good looking or good in bed.

I could go on. Anyone ever anywhere found all three in one?

Dg8787
07-04-19, 18:41
Been there done that. This will not apply to visitors but if you live here, it is perfectly possible to get all three. How? Easy.

As Ron White said, you can't fix stupid. I would argue that you have very little chance of fixing sane. That leaves sexy.

Two out of three and send her ass to the gym, teach her how to dress and do hair and makeup, walk, and voila. Of course this pre-selects her being compliant and obedient, or since that is that not that uncommon here, at least you not being a fuckup that can't enforce expectations. And. Be. Obedient for a woman is a fairly large portion of sane. This is not rocket science. Six months with a personal trainer will turn any average chick into a bikini model, unless she is genetically deformed.

There is no average 7 Filipina that can't be improved into a 9 with training. This is the land of fucking opportunity, but you're going to have to go for fixer-uppers. Because natural smart hot sane women want nothing to do with aging mongers; they have opportunities. However, the gap between mediocre looks and instagram model is fixable with work, instruction and resources.

If your girl is doing retarded shit like IV skin whitening treatment, then you are in inadequate control of your girl. Yoga pants are for bitches that actually do yoga. Etc. Reduce her allowance and make sure the spending is being decided by you.Possibly there is a finishing school mongers can send their gfs to?

Kabul Guy
07-04-19, 22:15
Possibly there is a finishing school mongers can send their gfs to?Can I be an instructor?

Kabul Guy
07-04-19, 22:21
...

It is not uncommon for me to decide to take a chick from LA Cafe and if she is with a friend she asks me to give the friend money to get home. Shiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeddddd. She better find a customer the same way that you did!

Or have the pair.

Threesomes are my second favourite thing. Foursomes are at the top.

Kabul Guy
07-04-19, 22:29
....

Two out of three and send her ass to the gym, teach her how to dress and do hair and makeup, walk, and voila. Of course this pre-selects her being compliant and obedient, or since that is that not that uncommon here, at least you not being a fuckup that can't enforce expectations. And. Be. Obedient for a woman is a fairly large portion of sane. This is not rocket science. Six months with a personal trainer will turn any average chick into a bikini model, unless she is genetically deformed.

.....

If your girl is doing retarded shit like IV skin whitening treatment, then you are in inadequate control of your girl. Yoga pants are for bitches that actually do yoga. Etc. Reduce her allowance and make sure the spending is being decided by you.I like that idea of making a 7 into a 9.

Once I give her the allowance it is her's to do with as she pleases. Dumb shit is amusing but she has to learn no advances no matter what. (OK a real life and death situation but not no rent money because she bought a high end gym package.) Truth be known her body is at least a 9. 5 already, it will be nice to have it at a 10 level, Had we been in a live in situation, I'd have paid for the gym and trainer just for that.

She is new, only has gotten two months allowance. First was spent on past bills but she bought her mother a washing machine. OK not too bad choices but second went on dumb shit with no income coming in time to pay rent so she asked for an advance.

Right now her phone in in pawn and we can only communicate while she is at work and she can sneak using email. My guess is 50-50 she loses her job over it.

Chocha Monger
07-05-19, 12:59
Food is not necessarily more important than a cell phone. It depends on what the cell phone is being used for. It can be used as a tool or as a toy. If it is used as a tool, then you definitely do not want to pawn it because it can be used to bring you money to buy food.

(One of my chicks in the Dumbinican Republic was talking about selling her computer because she didn't have money to pay for school. I said yeah bih and then how are you going to do your school work without the damn computer? For some reason she had not thought of that.)

But in the way that you said they were using it, fuck them! Six mfs sitting around playing games in the dark with no food and not 1 has sense enough to grab a newspaper and search the want ads and use the phone as a tool to find a damn job.

Again, fuck them! This is the exact reason why I will never send a woman money. Now I have been poor before and I have had to pawn shit before, but I have damn sure never been lazy as to sit on my ass in the dark with no food and not go out and look for an opportunity to better my living situation. Throw money down a hole because you can't get pussy back home if you want to. You are a mf fool. Either that or you didn't have to work for it. I will only pay as I go. None of that layaway pussy shit that you guys talk about.There is an abundance of information out there warning horny suckers not to send money to women. Yet, many sex-starved fools will throw their money down the rabbit hole. Many of the men doing this cannot afford the financial loss that comes from falling for romance swindles. A significant number are lonely elderly men who subsist on meagre pensions and cat food. Others are middle-aged men who think with their dicks. They choose to ignore the evidence that domesticating pussy is risky business, especially financial captive breeding programs. Some will make multiple attempts at such projects until landing in bankruptcy.

Briffault provided these three corollaries to his law:

Even though a woman has accrued past benefits from her relationship with a man, this is no guarantee of her continuing the relationship with him. (Translation: What have you done for me lately?

If a woman promises a man to continue her relationship with him in the future in exchange for a benefit received from him today, her promise becomes null and void as soon as the benefit is rendered. ("I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."

A man's promise of a future benefit has limited ability to secure a continuing relationship with a woman, and his promise carries weight with her only to the extent that the woman's wait for the benefit is short and to the extent that she trusts him to keep his promise.

In economics there is the concept of diminishing marginal utility: The benefit derived from a product lessens with each successive unit consumed. Consider an all-you-can-eat buffet. If you arrive hungry, the first plate from the buffet provides 100% utility in satisfying your hunger. The second plate provides less utility, although you still may be a bit hungry when you begin filling the second plate. But by the time you're eaten the second plate, you are no longer hungry. If you return to the buffet for a third plate, you will probably feel overstuffed after eating it. In terms of utility you are now in negative territory.

If we accept Briffault's law at face value, women derive diminishing marginal utility from their relationships with men after acquiring the desired benefits.

Bushes
07-06-19, 19:17
I don't believe that that type of thinking is exclusive to the Philippines. I think many women think that way. One famously said let them (the hungry) eat cake. A Junior US NY politician had some very interesting economic theories. Where does one start to explain economic theory or the concept of budgeting?


Right now her phone in in pawn and we can only communicate while she is at work and she can sneak using email. My guess is 50-50 she loses her job over it.

Kabul Guy
07-07-19, 03:10
..... Where does one start to explain economic theory or the concept of budgeting?I do the same with my girls here as I did with my kids when I was married with young children.

Their money was their money, they could do with it what they wanted but there would be no more until next allowance due.

With my kids they knew what they had to pay for themselves and what we would pay for. If they went out and spend the day after allowance day at the video arcade and blew all their money on games and candy then they were broke until next allowance day. As they got older and better at handling money the allowance got more, the times between allowances got longer and the expectations of what they had to pay for got increased. As 8 year olds it was something like $3 a week and all they had to pay for themselves was entertainment and candy. By the time they were in grade 12 it was more like $150 a month and they had to pay for most clothes, school lunches (but they could pack a lunch from home for free) etc.

The result now in their 30's my ids are very good at handling their money and budgeting.

It will take a long time for the pina's to become good at handling their allowance but absent a life and death situation, I simply refuse to advance allowances. Some learn, some go tampo and some leave when they cannot get additional out of me.

PedroMorales
07-07-19, 10:58
I do the same with my girls here as I did with my kids when I was married with young children.The tendency of one particular group to make sweeping, sexist, paternalistic and racist generalizations about women they bonk is incredible and distasteful. For the record, I have bonked very many hookers who are good money managers and I think these ignorant broad brush strokes are unhelpful. I have had several who are pig farmers, others who run small cafes, others who lent out money (got burnt), some sari sari owners, dress makers, fish mongers and so on. I have, of course, bonked many pathetic cases too, some utterly so.

Bonking gives a cash flow, enabling the hooker to make as much in a day as others make in a month. Some put that money to good use, others do not. Many women are just not cut out for this work and many of them pay a huge price in personal and health terms.

These lard tubs who come to SE Asia hiring hookers like they are buying a horse at a market (checking the teeth, anus for hemorrhoids and so on, log book for previous owners) are tiresome. You have (or have not) your lives and they have theirs. They put up with you because of your wallet. Coming on here boasting that you can sweep women young enough to be your grand daughter off their feet just makes you sound stupid.

I enjoy bonding with the hookers, hearing their stories, watching them trying to rip me off and so on. They usually like me as I treat them with respect and several have proposed marriage to me, which is sweet even though I don't have a sweet tooth.

God help these women, doing a distasteful job and putting up with simpletons. Grop up guys. And treat women with respect.

GoodEnough
07-07-19, 17:51
Th

I enjoy bonding with the hookers, hearing their stories, watching them trying to rip me off and so on. They usually like me as I treat them with respect and several have proposed marriage to me, which is sweet even though I don't have a sweet tooth.

God help these women, doing a distasteful job and putting up with simpletons. Grop up guys. And treat women with respect.Thanks for writing this. I've often been tempted to write something similar and have refrained. Treating these young women as human beings who are worthy of respect also elicits another benefit in that the women tend to appreciate your attitude, develop some respect for you, and generally treat you better than they would the archetypal monger who de personalizes them and treats them contemptuously.

GE.

D Cups
07-07-19, 18:43
. I enjoy bonding with the hookers, hearing their stories, watching them trying to rip me off and so on.
God help these womenWell written, Pedro. I don't know if I would call it bonding (in my case. Because I don't wannabe a never ending western union sugarpop sap) but surely these girls need our wallet linings as much as we need their beautiful, willing bodies and good lovin. As for conversation with the cuties, well, I can take it or leave it. Eventually it almost always comes down to sad stories and sick relatives (or the equivalent) - a further plea for monetary assistance. I go to DR, too, to do the sexy busty Latina mamasitas there and have spent days on end with particular top shelf girls. The bilingual deficiency does not detract from good sex and good laughs. In fact, I see it as an advantage not to be able to speak their language. Cheers.

Mr Enternational
07-07-19, 19:51
These lard tubs who come to SE Asia hiring hookers like they are buying a horse at a market (checking the teeth, anus for hemorrhoids and so on, log book for previous owners) are tiresome.

God help these women, doing a distasteful job and putting up with simpletons. Grop up guys. And treat women with respect.But it IS like buying a horse at a market. If it is not, then why didn't you take the old fat broad with rotted out teeth home and treat her with all the respect that you could muster? If I am spending my money for goods or services then I have specifications that I am looking for to suit my needs. I am not just going to accept any old thing that is thrown at me.

The problem with abstract terms such as love and respect is that not everyone has the same ideas in their head about the particular concepts. Some chick may not think you truly love her unless you show jealousy and put a foot up her ass every now and then. To one guy it may be respectful to buy every chick that comes to his table a lady drink, while to another guy it could be disrespectful for a chick to even ask for a lady drink.

There is also a thin line bewteen respecting someone and playing somebody's fool. As Sade said in Smooth Operator, this hobby/job is "no place for beginners or sensitive hearts. " These women chose this job, it did not choose them. The same as we are choosing to go out and monger; nobody is making us do it.

Kabul Guy
07-07-19, 22:33
...And treat women with respect.

I do treat them with respect. I just make it clear what the agreement is. It is allowance for time together, allowance is paid monthly or weekly as we agree and no advances, no interfering with what they spend it on.

Some are great money managers when we meet and start an arrangement, some are not.

Some learn to budget their money better some don't.

Either way once the money leaves my hands and is in theirs, I have no more say or influence over what they spend it on.

Kabul Guy
07-07-19, 22:56
.... I have specifications that I am looking for to suit my needs. .....

You can enforce your specifications politely and respectfully or in a rude and arrogant manner.

If a girl approaches me who does not meet my specifications, I politely decline, "No thank you" not "fuck off fat *****".

Even most pro's have their own specifications, not all will go with a fat drunk wearing clothes that look and smell like he wore them to scrub out the septic tank last week or will at least vary their price for him. Just as we will pay more for what we call a 10 than what we will pay for a 7.

The more you are in the market for instant sex for money the more it is a meat market. Move along the continuum to relationship the less the meat market concept applies. Even at the true relationship end, we and the girls have their specifications, they may be physical, monetary, educational, ethnic etc but we do have certain ideas that we want to see in our girl irrespective of if it is a ST in a hot sheet motel or a long term relationship.

However no matter where you are on the line, you will always do better if you are respectful and polite.

Sammon
07-07-19, 22:58
Thanks for writing this. I've often been tempted to write something similar and have refrained. Treating these young women as human beings who are worthy of respect also elicits another benefit in that the women tend to appreciate your attitude, develop some respect for you, and generally treat you better than they would the archetypal monger who de personalizes them and treats them contemptuously.

GE.Everybody says these girls should not be in the business of selling their bodies for money. Everybody claims since they are the buyers they can treat them any which way they want.

Truth is we as mongers have a good thing going because of poverty in some countries we go to. Availability of girls are plenty because they have no other choices to make a life. Of course there are bad apples but nobody deserved to be treated badly.

Treat them right and do not be a penny pinching A hole. Nobody is saying you need to send money on demand or give exorbitant compensation. I know not all mongers are rich. They want to have fun cheaply. In doing this you are playing with lives.

Compensate well, enjoy and most of all treat girls like your girlfriend with respect irrespective of short time or long time.

Mr Enternational
07-08-19, 00:34
Truth is we as mongers have a good thing going because of poverty in some countries we go to. Availability of girls are plenty because they have no other choices to make a life.Not true at all. Because you see, you can do the same exact thing in Miami, Las Vegas, LOS Angeles, but it will cost you more. Now tell me the girls there that you see hanging out on yachts and have guys flying then all over and the ones hanging out on sugarbaby sites have no other choice. EVERYONE has a choice.

There was a football player that was in Miami a couple of weeks ago. He had 2 chicks stay with him. The next morning they robbed him for $500,000 worth of shit when he left them hoes in his crib and went out to exercise. Same thing, different place, different price. But all had a choice.

Kabul Guy
07-08-19, 01:52
....
Compensate well, enjoy and most of all treat girls like your girlfriend with respect irrespective of short time or long time.I agree, why would you hire a plumber to come to your house to provide a service and treat him like shit?

Why would you hire a girl to come to your house or elsewhere to provide a service and treat her like shit?

Member #4698
07-08-19, 02:07
Treat them right and do not be a penny pinching A hole. Nobody is saying you need to send money on demand or give exorbitant compensation. I know not all mongers are rich. They want to have fun cheaply. In doing this you are playing with lives. Compensate well, enjoy and most of all treat girls like your girlfriend with respect irrespective of short time or long time.Isn't it funny that those of us that treat our girls good are the ones having the best time. I like the girls. Treating them good comes natural to me as does the return on my investment and friendliness.

Sure, poverty is one of the reasons, maybe the primary reason, many girls enter this line of business, having just had a baby and simultaneously dumped by their boyfriend, but Mr E is right too when he points out that a many girls elect to be hookers or at least choose to stay in the business because they enjoy the lifestyle and the money. I know a number of good looking Burgos and BKK Go Go girls that are doing quite well. They would not change places with a waitress or a sales girl even if there was a social safety net. Now finding a wealthy out of country sponsor and living off his support, that's another issue, although its related to the subject at hand. Ha Ha.

Mr Enternational
07-08-19, 02:30
I agree, why would you hire a plumber to come to your house to provide a service and treat him like shit?

Why would you hire a girl to come to your house or elsewhere to provide a service and treat her like shit?But you would not expect said plumber to come over and say he doesn't like unclogging pipes and refuse. Are you still going to pay him and send him happily on his way? Because in the other thread dude said a hooker came over and said she didn't like to do blow jobs. You don't get treated well for just showing up and calling yourself an xyz. You get treated well for living up to your job description.

Kabul Guy
07-08-19, 02:41
But you would not expect said plumber to come over and say he doesn't like unclogging pipes and refuse. Are you still going to pay him and send him happily on his way? Because in the other thread dude said a hooker came over and said she didn't like to do blow jobs. You don't get treated well for just showing up and calling yourself an xyz. You get treated well for living up to your job description.Some plumbers out there only work on new installs and do not do repair or maintenance services.

While I would expect someone to tell me up front that they did not do a service I was obviously, or at least could be expected to be looking for if they did come and then refuse I would politely send them on their way without pay, or a reduced pay if they did not do the full range of services I had asked for.

Post bad reviews, warnings to others and never call again.

Yes she should have said that her services were limited and did not include services commonly offered. That was wrong on her part but two wrongs do not make a right. (however 3 lefts do make a right LOL).

Blue Touch
07-08-19, 03:07
Law of diminishing return could apply to women as well. The second date with your girl would give you a less pleasure than the first date with her, and the 3rd date less pleasure than the second. Skilled courtesan and mistresses have known this for a long time and they used a few tactics. They made themselves less available to the guys, and often convinced the guys that their meeting could be the last meeting because they found a better deal or they just lost interested in them. Guys were struck with joy when the girls "came back" to them after the girls had said that they would not see the guys any more. Also, they changed their appearance routinely to look new. Often they increased their price assuming that the price would determine the value, rather than the other way around.

As for the diminishing marginal return from the guys, as you say, it suggests that the value of your charm and the (same amount of) money you give declines in time. As you say, therefore, not sending money would be best. Also, you can let the girl think that she is one of many girls you are dealing with and you can leave her any time. This is what I do always. Usually I like only one girl at a casa, but I visit the venue several times and pick different girls to establish and maintain uncertainty and competition. All the girls I pick are happy. If I picked the same one girl all the time, she wouldn't be that happy. Also I frequently decline invitations from my regulars. If guys want to really help a woman, finding her a job would be better than sending money.


There is an abundance of information out there warning horny suckers not to send money to women. Yet, many sex-starved fools will throw their money down the rabbit hole. Many of the men doing this cannot afford the financial loss that comes from falling for romance swindles. A significant number are lonely elderly men who subsist on meagre pensions and cat food. Others are middle-aged men who think with their dicks. They choose to ignore the evidence that domesticating pussy is risky business, especially financial captive breeding programs. Some will make multiple attempts at such projects until landing in bankruptcy.

Briffault provided these three corollaries to his law:

Even though a woman has accrued past benefits from her relationship with a man, this is no guarantee of her continuing the relationship with him. (Translation: What have you done for me lately?

If a woman promises a man to continue her relationship with him in the future in exchange for a benefit received from him today, her promise becomes null and void as soon as the benefit is rendered. ("I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today..

Bushes
07-08-19, 07:08
Have not skimmed the 50 odd posts since this post but I tend to agree. My replies are usually buried because it needs editorial approval so time is not of the essence and will skim them when time permits. IMHO, budgeting is just a matter of common sense and self control. If one lacks either, it is a battle. Some women will go on a shopping spree if they feel down. Many can afford so it is not a problem. Unless a guy is footing the bill. I try not to be judgmental or laugh when I am told these stories.

Glad your personal situation worked out well. IMHO, unfortunately, it leads to some very bitter and resentful recipients. As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

There were some very funny videos online showing young Chinese, I assume, shrew going tampo when sugar daddy did not buy her the car she wanted at the dealer.


I do the same with my girls here as I did with my kids when I was married with young children.

Their money was their money, they could do with it what they wanted but there would be no more until next allowance due.

With my kids they knew what they had to pay for themselves and what we would pay for. If they went out and spend the day after allowance day at the video arcade and blew all their money on games and candy then they were broke until next allowance day. As they got older and better at handling money the allowance got more, the times between allowances got longer and the expectations of what they had to pay for got increased. As 8 year olds it was something like $3 a week and all they had to pay for themselves was entertainment and candy. By the time they were in grade 12 it was more like $150 a month and they had to pay for most clothes, school lunches (but they could pack a lunch from home for free) etc..

Mogwai
07-08-19, 09:11
Not true at all. Because you see, you can do the same exact thing in Miami, Las Vegas, LOS Angeles, but it will cost you more. Now tell me the girls there that you see hanging out on yachts and have guys flying then all over and the ones hanging out on sugarbaby sites have no other choice. EVERYONE has a choice.You are comparing apples and oranges here. Those girls in a rich country like the US have much more choice than the girls in the Phils. Yes, they can try to get a 'normal' job but it will be hard or even impossible to find, while in the meantime their babies and / or family need food.

Mogwai
07-08-19, 09:14
There is also a thin line bewteen respecting someone and playing somebody's fool.You always seem to think that people will immediately take advantage of you when you are nice to them.

Mr Enternational
07-08-19, 10:25
You always seem to think that people will immediately take advantage of you when you are nice to them.Only going by what I have seen on these mongering streets and on this mongering board. It does not happen to me because I do not entertain the opportunity for it to happen to me. And I have NEVER said not to be nice to anyone or to treat anyone bad. All I have said is to beware and to be careful.

Everyone is not your friend. I had a coworker that was in Italy with a friend. They met some guys and hung out with them all day. At the end of the day, they guys stole their purses and disappeared. In other threads there are guys talking about they let known hookers care for their wallets during the day. One of my best friends married a hooker and moved her to the USA. Ended up that she was cheating in him. Now he has to pay for 1 kid that is his and 1 kid that is not his. Again, all I am saying is to be careful. But of course I know that experience is the best teacher, and even sometimes experience can't teach someone shit.

Sammon
07-09-19, 01:20
As usual trolling through DIA looking for new conquests for my upcoming trip. Also keeping old trusted conquests as back ups. Have made a list of some promised, confirmed, compensation agreed and also some on the fence and some others said things to me I cannot repeat here.

I always chat with saying I will be in town and can they stay with me? 90 percent immediately agree. Next I ask for the phone number. Some answers are why? (why did they yes to my question), Do not have phone or contact apps, do not have money (even if she lives 10 minutes away), need to take care of the baby (profile says no kids) , mother sick and cannot live her alone, have a job and no free time (profile says no work), in the remote province now (can you send money to come), pregnant (can I have your last name for the baby- no joking!) , virgin (26 years old waiting for marriage, maybe she went to Korea for hymen replacement) , looking for committed relationship only (already has a kid, how committed is she) , can you support my studies by sending money now because of deadline for sign up, can you support my family? (they do not have any money to eat but surviving on air) By now I am down to 5 percent but realistically I raise it up to 50 percent because I keep adding new chats (my ingenious math) only to come down again to 20 percent.

Next step is coming to a consensus. Chat starts on social apps cam to cam (some dropped due to their pics misleading, I do not like to call anybody ugly) , where to meet (some do not like to come to hotel, okay with me but I have had bad experiences with whole family showing up for a free meal) , length of stay (some do not like staying the night because all night fucking will hurt their pussy) compensation (some outrageous amount 50000 pesos for three nights (you read it right pussy is not gold anymore, more like rare earth minerals), transportation costs (one girl demanded 10000 pesos, checked online and it is 300 pesos by bus, no she does not like the bus, she likes car hire or a limo, granted she is 4 hours away and it will be dangerous for her beautiful body LOL) Now my math says I am down to 10 percent and cannot find any new replenishments on my chosen area.

My plan is working fine. Now to put the plan to work (Need real intelligence for this) Slots for girls (no double booking) I am trying very hard to accommodate everybody (Money budgeted, Viagra stocked, New condoms bought (just in case).

Trip is next week and the story to be continued (This is how it goes every time I go on mongering trip. Some trips are great and others I wish to forget).

Excited to meet all new pussies and hopefully no smell and they give me good sex (that is if they show up).

Back up plan with older, trusted conquests are waiting for my call (I do not tell them the date or hotel venue).

D Cups
07-09-19, 04:58
As usual trolling through DIA looking for new conquests for my upcoming trip. Also keeping old trusted conquests as back ups. Have made a list of some promised, confirmed, compensation agreed and also some on the fence and some others said things to me I cannot repeat here.

I always chat with saying I will be in town and can they stay with me? 90 percent immediately agree. Next I ask for the phone number. Some answers are why? (why did they yes to my question), Do not have phone or contact apps, do not have money (even if she lives 10 minutes away), need to take care of the baby (profile says no kids) , mother sick and cannot live her alone, have a job and no free time (profile says no work), in the remote province now (can you send money to come), pregnant (can I have your last name for the baby- no joking!) , virgin (26 years old waiting for marriage, maybe she went to Korea for hymen replacement) , looking for committed relationship only (already has a kid, how committed is she) , can you support my studies by sending money now because of deadline for sign up, can you support my family? (they do not have any money to eat but surviving on air) By now I am down to 5 percent but realistically I raise it up to 50 percent because I keep adding new chats (my ingenious math) only to come down again to 20 percent..Too funny and too familiar, Sam, and a helluva lotta work! But somebody's got to do it!

Mogwai
07-09-19, 08:44
Only going by what I have seen on these mongering streets and on this mongering board. It does not happen to me because I do not entertain the opportunity for it to happen to me. You are only confirming what I was already thinking. You seem to assume that all the girls (and maybe even all people) will try to take advantage of you, so you're taking precautions beforehand and set up a defense mechanism. I agree with you that we have to be careful, but in my experience we do not always need such a defense mechanism because there also quite a lot of girls out there who are nice and honest.

Nice Guy 99
07-10-19, 17:51
If guys want to really help a woman, finding her a job would be better than sending money.I saw a working girl for 5+ years. We really came to know each other well and it was a very satisfying relationship. To really help her I found her a husband by working the dating sites with her. We remain good friends. She is happy in her marriage. It's something I feel really good about.

Dg8787
07-10-19, 18:59
Possibly there is a finishing school mongers can send their gfs to?With additional grad classes:

BBBJ with CIM.

Ball licking and sucking.

Lingham massage

Porn star training.

Slutty dressing.

D Cups
07-10-19, 22:24
With additional grad classes:

BBBJ with CIM.

Ball licking and sucking.

Lingham massage

Porn star training.

Slutty dressing.And lots of nawty talk.

Engine Driver
07-11-19, 12:35
As usual trolling through DIA looking for new conquests for my upcoming trip. Also keeping old trusted conquests as back ups. Have made a list of some promised, confirmed, compensation agreed and also some on the fence and some others said things to me I cannot repeat here.

I always chat with saying I will be in town and can they stay with me? 90 percent immediately agree. Next I ask for the phone number. Some answers are why? (why did they yes to my question), Do not have phone or contact apps, do not have money (even if she lives 10 minutes away), need to take care of the baby (profile says no kids) , mother sick and cannot live her alone, have a job and no free time (profile says no work), in the remote province now (can you send money to come), pregnant (can I have your last name for the baby- no joking!) , virgin (26 years old waiting for marriage, maybe she went to Korea for hymen replacement) , looking for committed relationship only (already has a kid, how committed is she) , can you support my studies by sending money now because of deadline for sign up, can you support my family? (they do not have any money to eat but surviving on air) By now I am down to 5 percent but realistically I raise it up to 50 percent because I keep adding new chats (my ingenious math) only to come down again to 20 percent.
Nice report Sammon. I think you need to be in country at least two weeks for this investment in time to pay off. Also, many mongers work during the day back home and can't afford to be caught spending several hours each day on PL and DIA.

If you are in country for less than two weeks, a simpler approach can also work. WeChat, Tinder or any other proximity based dating apps will yield good results. Lots of LBs on Wechat, up to 50%. You need to be careful and ask upfront if he / she is a real girl.

The average old monger who is in country for 10-days, will need to pop about 15-20 times (unless you are like the Norse god who used to be on this site, in which case you will need 40-50 chicks in 10 days). With a combination of bar girls, freelancers, WeChat and Tinder hookups, you should have more than enough girls to exceed your target.

Blue Touch
07-11-19, 15:53
That's what Giacomo Casanova did to many women.


I saw a working girl for 5+ years. We really came to know each other well and it was a very satisfying relationship. To really help her I found her a husband by working the dating sites with her. We remain good friends. She is happy in her marriage. It's something I feel really good about.

Sammon
07-11-19, 20:46
Nice report Sammon. I think you need to be in country at least two weeks for this investment in time to pay off. Also, many mongers work during the day back home and can't afford to be caught spending several hours each day on PL and DIA.

If you are in country for less than two weeks, a simpler approach can also work. WeChat, Tinder or any other proximity based dating apps will yield good results. Lots of LBs on Wechat, up to 50%. You need to be careful and ask upfront if he / she is a real girl.

The average old monger who is in country for 10-days, will need to pop about 15-20 times (unless you are like the Norse god who used to be on this site, in which case you will need 40-50 chicks in 10 days). With a combination of bar girls, freelancers, WeChat and Tinder hookups, you should have more than enough girls to exceed your target.I have enough to keep me company. Right now 10 girl's guaranteed. Some staying 2 days. Staying means multiple pops. Even those cannot stay the nights will give two pops. For me it is not the question of quantity but quality and friendliness. I use only DIA. No need to invest lots of time trolling. I come straight to the sex talk. No romancing to get in to their pants. If they agree chat continues. This way no wasting time. Many times even the girl who said no to casual sex comes around and agrees. Remember everybody need sex. Some say they never had sex for more than a year. It is possible because privacy and staying away from home is not easy for these family type of girls. No bar girls although one night in Angeles. The girl I am meeting maybe ex bar girl although she says she never worked in a bar. Will post field reports and pictures.

PedroMorales
07-11-19, 23:36
That's what Giacomo Casanova did to many women.Casanova was reputedly intimate with 122 women, which would mean a virtual virgin by standards here. I've certainly bagged more than 122 and I ain't no Casanova and, mean as I am, I don't go around marryting off Third World hookers to my friends and many enemies as that would bring me enough karma for 122 or more reincarnations.

GDreams
07-12-19, 04:17
virgin (26 years old waiting for marriage, maybe she went to Korea for hymen replacement)It is a popular procedure in Saudi Arabia. I attach a photo from Jeddah.

Last night had my first from Tan Tan. A little bit chubby from my usual taste but performed well.

Bushes
07-12-19, 05:59
I always help my regulars find a good mark to move on to. Most get very offended. But I would rather see them off to someone who would offer them a future or better future. With WGs it is easier. If they are interested in a guy, I would just chat up the guy and recommend her the evening.


I saw a working girl for 5+ years. We really came to know each other well and it was a very satisfying relationship. To really help her I found her a husband by working the dating sites with her. We remain good friends. She is happy in her marriage. It's something I feel really good about.

SaltyPete
07-13-19, 15:02
With WGs it is easier. If they are interested in a guy, I would just chat up the guy and recommend her the evening.The authorities might view that as trafficing. (I wouldn't, but I always err on the conservative side). They are gunning for that stuff now. And the law is written intentionally vague, but "third party" is in it.

X Man
07-13-19, 15:22
If you have a Plan go to Philippines or Manila just hired me I will guide you with care hahaha.

Chocha Monger
07-13-19, 19:21
Casanova was reputedly intimate with 122 women, which would mean a virtual virgin by standards here. I've certainly bagged more than 122 and I ain't no Casanova and, mean as I am, I don't go around marryting off Third World hookers to my friends and many enemies as that would bring me enough karma for 122 or more reincarnations.Agreed! As amusing as it would be to marry off Filipina hookers to unsuspecting friends and mortal enemies for a good laugh, the cruelty of the thing is likely to bring cosmic retribution on the responsible rascal. LOL!

Bushes
07-13-19, 19:33
The problem is that if someone is looking to pin something on you, anything could be twisted. I am not as lecherous as Joe Biden in touching girls or pinching girls' butts like Bush Jr and Snr. For the girls, there is no future outside a workout between the sheets with me. To be fair to them, I encourage and help them move on. I don't object. It is like watching a blind date if they find someone else. As you said, some people would object.

So, if they are watching and filming, I think there are easier people to go after. But one could still be caught in an awkward situation.

I once had a girl visit me and she had gone somewhere and ended up with a couple dozen condoms in her purse. I always wondered what would happen if she had been searched. She was going between cities.


The authorities might view that as trafficing. (I wouldn't, but I always err on the conservative side). They are gunning for that stuff now. And the law is written intentionally vague, but "third party" is in it.

Blue Touch
07-14-19, 03:59
Casanova was reputedly intimate with 122 women, which would mean a virtual virgin by standards here. I've certainly bagged more than 122 and I ain't no Casanova and, mean as I am, I don't go around marryting off Third World hookers to my friends and many enemies as that would bring me enough karma for 122 or more reincarnations.Casanova helped women marrying guys in their socio-economic class, not his friends. The other poster found a good guy at a dating site, not his friend, to a Phillipina. Also Casanova helped many women regardless he had sex or not and regardless the women are young or old, or pretty or ugly.

Goferring
07-14-19, 11:46
With additional grad classes:

BBBJ with CIM.

Ball licking and sucking.

Lingham massage

Porn star training.

Slutty dressing.I know you are joking but I'm not sure if others realise there are actual schools for hookers to learn their craft. Most are quite popular as they offer an immediate entre into higher paying gigs and better working conditions.

A town in Java specializes in it and there are several through Europe.

Enjoy. G.

GDreams
07-14-19, 12:13
Inexperienced. The first time I went with her I think I must have been one of her first as she was pretty uptight. Had a smoking hot body so decided to go for a repeat. Told her before she came that she had to relax and just let me dictate what to do. Well I think she came 2 or three times, relaxed and when she started getting horny her pussy couldn't get enough of my cock.

An excellent set of firm medium tits.

D Cups
07-14-19, 18:43
Inexperienced. The first time I went with her I think I must have been one of her first as she was pretty uptight. Had a smoking hot body so decided to go for a repeat. Told her before she came that she had to relax and just let me dictate what to do. Well I think she came 2 or three times, relaxed and when she started getting horny her pussy couldn't get enough of my cock.

An excellent set of firm medium tits.Nice one, GD. How old?

GDreams
07-15-19, 01:39
Nice one, GD. How old?Her profile said 18, now says 19.

Bushes
07-15-19, 06:52
I think his condom is still on display somewhere.


Casanova was reputedly intimate with 122 women, which would mean a virtual virgin by standards here. I've certainly bagged more than 122 and I ain't no Casanova and, mean as I am, I don't go around marryting off Third World hookers to my friends and many enemies as that would bring me enough karma for 122 or more reincarnations.

Member #1088
07-18-19, 15:21
Inexperienced. The first time I went with her I think I must have been one of her first as she was pretty uptight. Had a smoking hot body so decided to go for a repeat. Told her before she came that she had to relax and just let me dictate what to do. Well I think she came 2 or three times, relaxed and when she started getting horny her pussy couldn't get enough of my cock.

An excellent set of firm medium tits.Inexperienced? You mean her very first time, or her first time with $?

Sammon
07-18-19, 22:35
Landed in Manila by non stop Philippine Airline flight. Nice efficient friendly service. Only complaint I have is I like 777 Aircraft instead of A350. Anyway quick connection to Cebu. Narrowly made it immigration line was endless.

Had contacted Southern Leyte girl to come and stay with me. No to transportation charges requested. I told her it will be reimbursed on meeting. True to her work arrived taking a ferry to Cebu. Rough waves she said. Glorious 5 days spent together. Very orgasmic. Nice country girl (pic attached) She left content and happy. Rewarded her nicely. Fun walking and eating at Ayala. Not interested in beach activities. Maybe because beaches are everywhere at her place.

Had one extra day to spare. Contacted few on my list. Did not like the vibe of some. Two girls I liked one is four months pregnant, other is eight months pregnant (pic attached) I had no problem in having sex with four months pregnant lady but she lives couple of hours away from Cebu city. Eight month pregnant is really interested but I hesitated because I do not want to cause any problems or her having give birth to a premature baby. She did say she loves sex and we can have a good time. I did not feel comfortable. So told her maybe next visit after the baby. She is pretty.

Although thought of taking a well deserved rest, well, I am on vacation and make the best use of it. Called my previous Korean looking fair girl who I had put through hospitality school and now working hard in a resort. She is happy to come over after she talked to her boss. What a difference few months make in her demeanor. Now she has a job, meeting foreigners all the time and maybe fucking some. Her pussy had some smell. Although she denied it in the beginning she admitted having fucked somebody. Her pussy was delicious when I met her. Smell turns me off and did her just once. Explained to her do, s and don't s of fucking many people. Young and does not know the pitfalls. Anyway gave her some money and told her to go see a doctor and get checked out. I guess temptations of making money by fucking foreigners cannot be resisted especially many single people stay at the resort she works.

In Angeles city now. Had planned to meet a girl who just had a baby three months ago and she said she is breastfeeding. Maybe she will breastfeed me too. MILK IS GOOD FOR THE OLD BONES. Let us see how it goes.

First is eight month pregnant girl. Second Is Leyte girl.

GDreams
07-18-19, 23:58
Inexperienced? You mean her very first time, or her first time with $?Inexperienced as very uptight and nervous. The second time I took her she relaxed and actually enjoyed it.

Member #1088
07-19-19, 18:20
Inexperienced as very uptight and nervous. The second time I took her she relaxed and actually enjoyed it.Ah, you broke a cherry, congrats.

George03
07-19-19, 18:25
I looked this info up, I think, when I made my first trip a few years ago. I am curious what your gifts amounts are for the dating site girls, for overnight, 5 days, etc.

Thanks in advance.

Sammon
07-20-19, 04:39
I looked this info up, I think, when I made my first trip a few years ago. I am curious what your gifts amounts are for the dating site girls, for overnight, 5 days, etc.

Thanks in advance.I give 2000 a day. Plus dinner, some gifts etc. I am generous if the girl is to my liking. My ST rates are 1500. Pitfalls of importing girls from provinces are you are stuck with them at least for a day. Luckily all the girls have performed well to keep them on the agreed days. Love the province girls because they are not jaded by city life. For them even 20 pesos means something. Even I take them to mall to buy gifts they look at the price tag and will find something on the clearance rack.

GDreams
07-22-19, 10:03
Another PL girl. Seen her a few times. She is tiny, 20, rare in can actually give me a BJ that I can enjoy and has a nice tight pussy. Cost is 2500ST.

Member #1088
07-23-19, 15:47
Another PL girl. Seen her a few times. She is tiny, 20, rare in can actually give me a BJ that I can enjoy and has a nice tight pussy. Cost is 2500ST.Looks like you open both entrances.

GDreams
07-23-19, 16:14
Looks like you open both entrances.She likes a finger in the butt but reluctant to try anal.

Pwrmnd
07-29-19, 17:49
I've been playing with DIA a bit, looking for temp GF prospects for an upcoming trip. Even after reading much of this thread, it's hard for me to wrap my head around (their expectations, motives, etc.).

I've moved from DIA to Whatsapp with 5 of the most promising that responded. 21 to 29 years old and good looking. I check them out on webcam to make sure they are the real deal, though it's not super easy because most are using cell phones with terrible internet or bad cameras (grainy). None gave much sign of being pros (like swimsuit pictures or provocative wording). At the same time, I don't promise them marriage or long-term relationships, or bring that up at all.

I also tried badoo, which now seems like a total waste of time. Only one decent prospect.

I've been making plans to meet them, and all are surprisingly quick to say "yes", sometimes after webcam or asking for more pics. Sometimes I'll say "meet" other times I'll say "stay with me" just to test the reaction. They've even agreed to come straight to my hotel, even at late hours (after school or work). I gather from this thread, though, that there's a big difference between agreeing to meet and actually showing up.

What's funny is that they don't seem to keen on chatting much, except to stay in daily contact and make arrangements to meet. Hmm. They are much less curious about me than I'd expect from someone looking for a partner. Maybe they've learned to not invest too much too soon because many guys don't show up (maybe they just want free webcam shows, or end up meeting other prospects). It's also possible that for some of these girls, or all, its just a business of sorts. None have explicitly indicated that they wanted money, though. Several have indicated how poor they are and how they'll be needing to pay for this or that soon. I suppose that's true of most Filipino women. I certainly don't mind helping them out if they help me out, so to speak.

I leave the USA In two days. We'll see how it goes when I meet them in person. I'm curious what percent will (a) never show up and leaving me hanging, (b) be shy daters or virgins or and I never get anywhere, (c) will jump into the sack right away, hoping for sponsorship (best case scenario), (d) same as see but become clingy, (e) will turn out to be pros or semi-pros and negotiate for money before arrival.

Last trip I failed miserably, but maybe I'm smarter this time around. Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.

PedroMorales
07-29-19, 19:11
It's also possible that for some of these girls, or all, its just a business of sorts. .Prostitutes sometimes tend to be like that. They sometimes expect their customers / clients to pay.

I have just been on kik with a stunner. She wants $200. She can FKK off because, as I "explained" to her, once non PHP currencies are mentioned, discussion is over. I bonk a US Asian air line attendant for $100 when she is in town but that is apples and less expensive but reliable oranges.

I tried baddoo but gave it up after 15 minutes.

Fortunately I only have a few years of poon chasing left before Little Pedro packs it in.

Albert9989
07-29-19, 19:21
I've been playing with DIA a bit, looking for temp GF prospects for an upcoming trip. Even after reading much of this thread, it's hard for me to wrap my head around (their expectations, motives, etc.).

I've moved from DIA to Whatsapp with 5 of the most promising that responded. 21 to 29 years old and good looking. I check them out on webcam to make sure they are the real deal, though it's not super easy because most are using cell phones with terrible internet or bad cameras (grainy). None gave much sign of being pros (like swimsuit pictures or provocative wording). At the same time, I don't promise them marriage or long-term relationships, or bring that up at all.

...............................

Last trip I failed miserably, but maybe I'm smarter this time around. Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.When you arrive in Manila, just contact in DIA those who you like, saying just I am in manila now, can we meet?

You will get a lot of answers, then you can chat as usual to arrange meeting and all conditions, or do all check you want before commiting to meet, but I was really suprised by all answers received. Many are scams, but in the middle there are some gems, very good surprises.

Pwrmnd
07-29-19, 20:09
What are the scams, exactly?

I'm aware of the ladyboys who lie about being real girls (even using real girl's pictures and directly denying that they are ladyboys) and then say "I'm shy, can I come directly to your room? They either hope you won't mind, or they just want easy "go away" money.

Then I suppose there are scammers from Africa or whatever who will try to get you to pay money online. What else?

P.S. To not waste time on ladyboys from the start, I ignore "girls" who look like guys, who have only blurry or highly filtered photos, or are always covering up their face, or always deliberately put their chin down, or who won't send real pictures in chat. Many come right out and say they are ladyboys, but obviously a large % don't.

Albert9989
07-29-19, 20:16
May be not scams but when they ask for money upfront, just forget, and go to the next one, that's all.

Mr Enternational
07-29-19, 22:50
I've been playing with DIA a bit, looking for temp GF prospects for an upcoming trip. Even after reading much of this thread, it's hard for me to wrap my head around (their expectations, motives, etc.).No need to wrap your head around anything. Just go with the flow. If it ends up they want money, then surely you will have 1,000 or 2,000 pesos laying around. Simple.


What's funny is that they don't seem to keen on chatting much, except to stay in daily contact and make arrangements to meet. Hmm. They are much less curious about me than I'd expect from someone looking for a partner.The fact of the matter is that you have nothing in common. It is the same thing with probably 9 of 10 chicks that I meet online around the world. I am a 47 year old single grandfather that speaks 5 languages, has a masters in business, and has been to over 100 countries. What do you think I have in common with most 3rd world chicks on dating sites? Even when I try to converse and get to know them it goes over their heads. Every little question, what is your favorite color, what do you like to eat, etc. garners a response of why.

I remember being in Cuba with a chick that another board member's girl hooked me up with. I was asking her normal get to know you questions and she thought I was crazy for asking such things. She ended up calling the rest of the day that she was supposed to accompany me to the beach off.

So unless you are up on Filipino soap operas and are ready to discuss that. These are simple people you are talking to. The most intriguing question you are probably going to get from them is did you eat already. Maybe you will find some type of chemistry when you are together in the same room. If not, then just be grateful that you are traveling and fucking.

Pwrmnd
07-29-19, 23:14
The fact of the matter is that you have nothing in common. .... Even when I try to converse and get to know them it goes over their heads. Every little question, what is your favorite color, what do you like to eat, etc. garners a response of why.

I remember being in Cuba with a chick that another board member's girl hooked me up with. I was asking her normal get to know you questions and she thought I was crazy for asking such things. She ended up calling the rest of the day that she was supposed to accompany me to the beach off.

So unless you are up on Filipino soap operas and are ready to discuss that. These are simple people you are talking to. The most intriguing question you are probably going to get from them is did you eat already. Maybe you will find some type of chemistry when you are together in the same room. If not, then just be grateful that you are traveling and fucking.Haha. Some great points there and very amusing anecdotes.

X Man
07-30-19, 00:01
Here are a few things I learned the hard way.

Making the date may seem like a done deal, but I recommend followup texts or even a call. Make them feel like you are eager to meet them. I've had a few no shows who said, "I didn't think you were serious, because you didn't text me."

Some gals might not have any spare cash. In other words, you need to be on hand to pay the taxi. Sometimes they won't even mention this to you. Very frustrating if you are in the mall and just sat down with a cup of coffee. Also, if they are not in a central location, there might not be any taxis. Always assume they will be late.

I had one gal text me that she was wearing, "black dress". I could not find her. Turns out she meant clothing when she said "dress". She was wearing a black blouse with blue jeans. I must have walked by her several times and she never thought to say something. Communication snafus do happen.

Murphy's Law: The best looking, the best GFE, the most interesting gal is usually the one you meet the day before your flight. Have fun. X.

A.


I've been playing with DIA a bit, looking for temp GF prospects for an upcoming trip. Even after reading much of this thread, it's hard for me to wrap my head around (their expectations, motives, etc.).

Chocha Monger
07-30-19, 02:06
Prostitutes sometimes tend to be like that. They sometimes expect their customers / clients to pay.

I have just been on kik with a stunner. She wants $200. She can FKK off because, as I "explained" to her, once non PHP currencies are mentioned, discussion is over. I bonk a US Asian air line attendant for $100 when she is in town but that is apples and less expensive but reliable oranges.

I tried baddoo but gave it up after 15 minutes.

Fortunately I only have a few years of poon chasing left before Little Pedro packs it in.Interestingly, many elderly mongers express a sense of relief when their boner is finally and irretrievably broken. It is not what many would expect. However, it is understandable that many old fellas are happy to escape from the constant drive to satisfy the curiosity of their penises at the expense of their financial, physical, and mental well-being. In the end, men are only victims of testosterone.

Sammon
07-30-19, 02:06
What are the scams, exactly?There are scams. Transportation scam. Everything has to do with money. Apart from ladyboys there are girls who promise everything and want money for transportation. Even a girl who says she lives a mile away wants 500 pesos for a cab and would not agree me paying the cab on arrival. I do not send money before meeting. They need to borrow from somebody And I will gladly take care of it.

Family or friends scam. Some insist to bring her family or friends to meet. You will be stuck with lunch or dinner tab if you allow with no guarantee she will come with you. Philippine people are always hungry if somebody is picking up the tab.

Bait and switch scam. Some have very nice pics on profile only to show real ugly themselves in person. I prefer real cam chatting few times and arrange and agree on everything before meeting.

Compensation scam. Some girls demand more money than agreed amount. If she gives good service it is up to you. Otherwise just give agreed amount. I always stay at hotels rather than apartment rental so I have added security.

Apart from ugly girls and smelly pussy I have not had any bad experiences.

GDreams
07-30-19, 09:07
Just spent 4 weeks in Manila. All the time was spent in the Malate area. During this time I had 1 recuperation day. All the girls were from Dating sites, primarily DIA and PL but 1 from Tan Tan. I went to LA Cafe once and as the 2 previous times I went there found nothing to my taste. I was tempted to take a freelancer around Robinsons a couple of times but in the end always went with other options. There were often some attractive young girls opposite Robinsons around the McDonalds.

First day I had 20 year old I met last year on DIA. She had gotten married to an old dude from Germany and become pregnant but he was not supporting her. She was initially wanting to stay days but the husband was moving her to Cavite where it was cheaper. She was moving the day I arrived, complaining having no money, not wanting sex as she was 6 month pregnant. I just told her that if she wanted money she would need to do the deed. She finally decided to come over just as I had contacted a backup to come over. So I spent 3 hrs with her, came in pussy as no risk of pregnancy. She was still pretty hot for it once she had made the decision she needed the money. Gave her 2000. She said she would make the effort to come up from Cavite for a few days but I didn't see her again.

So the backup was a 23 yo from DIA. She came over in the evening and I managed one shot. She was from Bulacan which is a pain. She is studying there and enters beauty pageants as a pastime. I gave her 3000 and organised to meet the next day. Next day she comes and first thing she complains about only getting 3000. I said that was all 1 shot gets. She stayed the night and we had 3 sessions but I only came on first and last. She is quite pretty and seems to expect a higher rate for that. I explained that I was on a budget and she could decide whether it was worth it to come or not. She won't do BJ but I am not a BJ fan anyway so didn't particularly worry me. Has a nice pussy and is enthusiastic in the act. I gave her 4500 for the night. I said I was going away as wanted to try some other talent. When I returned she skipped seeing me saying she was busy. May be true as it was weekday and she said she had classes.

Next I had organised to meet a PL girl to stay for 3 days. She was 21. She was from Taguig so a fair way in traffic. Eventually arrived, didn't bring any clothes, said she had to work the next day, didn't want to spend the night and wouldn't have sex so within about 45 min she was heading back to Taguig.

So hopped on PL and met an 18 yo. I wrote about her in an earlier report. She agreed to 4000 overnight but after 1 shot wanted to leave as had school the next day. I gave her 2200. I saw her 3 more times over 3 weeks mainly as she had a hot body and a tight pussy. Once she brought a friend but I was not much into the friend and it was not a real threesome just alternate.

Next I met a regular from previous visits. Nice, small now 20. I only see her for times I am just after one shot but she is happy with come in pussy and does a reasonable BJ which is worth mentioning from someone who really doesn't get into them. Paid 2500. Saw her another 3 time before leaving.

Next I met my first Tan Tan girl, 20 yo student looking to pay this years college fees. Not much to comment on, she was a little chubby for my taste but was satisfactory. Paid 3000 for 2 shots.

Met a 24 yo off PL. She was a single mum. I saw her 10 times. She was horny, had an IUD so was not concerned about CIP and did anal. Always wet but pussy was a bit loose. Didn't specifically ask for money but ended up with taxi fares and extras about 2000 a day. She only stayed overnight on one occasion which suited me.

One last one was off DIA, a 21 yo student. Quite nice looking but a little belly fat. If she lost 4 kg would be perfect. Nice pussy did her first in doggy. Next time in missionary which is when I noticed she actually had a really pretty face which helped with the second shot. Gave her 3000 for 2 shots. I repeated with her once before I left.

All we happy to go condom free. Two were OK with CIP.

I had one other incident. Met a girl on Tan Tan and agreed to 3000 overnight. Agreed to meet at Robinsons. She brought a friend which always annoys me. Well I was hungry so shouted them to a Korean BBQ. I really like Korean BBQ and in Robinsons there is a Soban that has pork or chicken for about 140 peso for a meal which is very good value. Basically the friend did the talking, I assumed because of language issues. Now I had done my usual list of questions which included are you a girl. Well on the walk to the hotel I was getting a bit of an off vibe and once I hit the room asked again. Once again she said yes she was a girl and asked me what if she wasn't. I said I would kick her out. Then she started on that many foreigners liked ladyboys. Well it turns out she was a ladyboy and I paid her 100 pesos just to get her out of the room without further fuss. I really don't know why they waste their time and mine. Fortunately not a big cost but annoying all the same.

I only search 18 - 22 or 23. The 24 yo actually chatted to me first. I had a couple of hot lookers for prospects but I pretty much put a limit of 4000 per night and they wanted more. I would say the girls ranged from about 6 - 8 in looks and all met my needs (the ones I consummated that is). I managed to leave after 4 weeks drained and satisfied.

Sidtip
07-30-19, 23:04
Just spent 4 weeks in Manila. All the time was spent in the Malate area.

First day I had 20 year old I met last year on DI only search 18 - 22 or 23. The 24 yo actually chatted to me first. I had a couple of hot lookers for prospects but I pretty much put a limit of 4000 per night and they wanted more. I would say the girls ranged from about 6 - 8 in looks and all met my needs (the ones I consummated that is). I managed to leave after 4 weeks drained and satisfied.You definitely know how to line them up. I've never even looked at DIA or PL. I assume they are websites. Do they cost money? I I mostly just wander the streets or use WeChat which hasn't failed me yet.

Goferring
07-31-19, 03:55
Quote of the day:


Next time in missionary which is when I noticed she actually had a really pretty face which helped with the second shot.Chivalry is indeed not dead. 👍.

Goferring
07-31-19, 04:01
You definitely know how to line them up. I've never even looked at DIA or PL. I assume they are websites. Do they cost money? I I mostly just wander the streets or use WeChat which hasn't failed me yet.Lots of info here on the use of the various internet sites. Read on so that you are well informed.

In short they are all websites and / or apps that contain '000's of women with varying levels of morals or lack there of. All have both paid and unpaid memberships. The unpaid typically work but become a PITA due to their restrictions. Girls respond much better, regardless of app, when you are in town rather than 'I'm visiting next month'.

Enjoy. G.

GDreams
07-31-19, 09:36
You definitely know how to line them up. I've never even looked at DIA or PL. I assume they are websites. Do they cost money? I I mostly just wander the streets or use WeChat which hasn't failed me yet.I've had a few Wechat girls before. The thing I don't like about Wechat is they don't publish age, weight or height which may not be accurate sometimes but I would prefer to know. As I mentioned there were often freelancers around Robinsons and some of them, especially the weekend were quite doable. The only thing that puts me off is having a street negotiation. I prefer just getting on viber or whatsapp and working all the details. I had one girl that I repeated. Even though I specifically told her that I changed hotel she turned up at the previous hotel, then repeated again and change the sum to what I was paying some of the others to which she wrote that she agreed and was disappointed when I handed over the money. It was good to pull up the chat and say do you read what you are agreeing to?

DIA is free. PL is free but they have restrictions on only being able to send a message every 10 minutes and not allowing messages to popular girls (although there is a workaround for that). Tan Tan is free and is like Tinder in that you can only chat for free if you both like each other. Even only restricting my search to -23 yo's I got close to 70 matches in 3 weeks. You can send messages unrestricted by paying a fee. I tried Tinder but only got LB / Trans or girls who didn't respond to messages. I find tinder has a higher expectation for payment.

Sammon
07-31-19, 20:43
Girls respond much better, regardless of app, when you are in town rather than 'I'm visiting next month'.

Enjoy. G.I disagree with you on this point. It is better to start chatting 2 months before you land. This gives enough time to bond and also girls feel comfortable with you. Low mileage girls do not just sleep with you on a day's notice. They need little convincing with cam to cam chat and romancing. Those who jump into bed are gold diggers or plain hookers. I just avoid them unless they are good looking and good for one time. As usual I am looking for shy types who will stay and give me GFE.

Goferring
07-31-19, 21:55
I disagree with you on this point. It is better to start chatting 2 months before you land. This gives enough time to bond and also girls feel comfortable with you. Low mileage girls do not just sleep with you on a day's notice. They need little convincing with cam to cam chat and romancing.Valid points for the girls you prefer.


Those who jump into bed are gold diggers or plain hookers. You say that like it's a bad thing. . . . 😁.

Member #4643
08-07-19, 02:49
. ,.....PL is free but they have restrictions on only being able to send a message every 10 minutes and not allowing messages to popular girls (although there is a workaround for that). ,..... I would love to know. I usually buy one month of PL before leaving home. I never fail to get more pretty girls lined up than I can handle.

X Man
08-07-19, 06:02
Had a real cute one with multiple sns account flake out on me today. No message, doesn't answer her phone. Such a waste of time.

Two of my regulars are allegedly out of town. A AC BF from earlier this year is in Manila and is willing to come if I offer enough. I'm not sure I'm ready to import sand to the beach!

If anyone has any DIA or other sns contacts that they are willing to share, please pm me. I prefer slim type. I'd appreciate it.

Of course I haven't been celibate the whole time. Pulled a gal out of one of the bars and she was insatiable. She even used my floppy dick to masturbate herself to completion after I couldn't get it up for a third round. See picture in the pic thread. X Man.

PedroMorales
08-07-19, 13:12
I would love to know. I usually buy one month of PL before leaving home. I never fail to get more pretty girls lined up than I can handle.I have posted this several times but here goes again.

1. Lady A is popular but she is marked as being reserved for paid members only which is no good for you.

2. You therefore post to Lady Band refresh Lady A's profile.

3. The countdown will begin on Lady A. Do not refresh the page. Once the 10 minutes are up, you can tell Lady A how much you want to rim her popular ass no matter how many warts it has.

Goferring
08-07-19, 22:05
I have posted this several times but here goes again.

1. Lady A is popular but she is marked as being reserved for paid members only which is no good for you.

2. You therefore post to Lady Band refresh Lady A's profile.

3. The countdown will begin on Lady A. Do not refresh the page. Once the 10 minutes are up, you can tell Lady A how much you want to rim her popular ass no matter how many warts it has.That's good information but for guys with multiple prospects, I'd suggest it's a lot of work to save $20. Just pay the $$ to get no restrictions, the girls will see your message first and not recognize you're a Cheap Charlie.

Enjoy. G.

GDreams
08-09-19, 05:10
That's good information but for guys with multiple prospects, I'd suggest it's a lot of work to save $20. Just pay the $$ to get no restrictions, the girls will see your message first and not recognize you're a Cheap Charlie.

Enjoy. G.They usually work out I'm a cheap Charlie from my offer!

Kabul Guy
08-09-19, 23:39
…..

Some gals might not have any spare cash. In other words, you need to be on hand to pay the taxi. Sometimes they won't even mention this to you. Very frustrating if you are in the mall and just sat down with a cup of coffee. Also, if they are not in a central location, there might not be any taxis. Always assume they will be late.
….That is why I will always send them a Grab, you can track their progress on the app and go to meet them directly when they arrive. The few hundred peso's that it costs for the grab makes up for a much easier time.

Goferring
08-09-19, 23:50
That is why I will always send them a Grab, you can track their progress on the app and go to meet them directly when they arrive. The few hundred peso's that it costs for the grab makes up for a much easier time.I've thought of doing that but I'm concerned about the Grab actually finding her. Most of the girls we are talking about don't exactly live in a highrise condo with a well defined street address.

How do you key in her location or address? Do you enter her phone number so the driver can call her directly when he's there?

Thanks. G.

Kabul Guy
08-10-19, 00:15
Just back in Philippines from my annual trip back to Canada and got reminded just why we are here putting up with the "Philippine experience".

Here I get between 10 and 15 likes on Tinder a day, I immediately delete most of them but still get a couple very good matches daily. In Canada for a week all that matched was what I call 50-50 women, over 50 and more than 50 kgs overweight.

On the street the Canadian women would have been mostly bottom quarter of what you see on the street here, not many short skirts, short shorts or yoga pants. Most of the yoga pants were on overweight entitled women.

Contacted a few pro's advertising on the online sites, never got a timely response despite the charges ranging from $CDN250 to 500 per hour, (10 k to 20 k peso). Even the pro sites were dominated by overweight women.

This was in Canada where obesity is not as prevalent as in the US so I went on a few US sites to take a look, more overweight women asking the same dollars but in US so add about 30%.

Here we get young hard body girls all night for what you can pay for 12 minutes of a less desirable girl back home.

In a week, all I got was two massage and HJ's. These were around the equal of 6 k p for nude massage, one hand release the other body slide and COT.

Really is more fun in the Philippines, despite all the hassles of being here and dealing with pinas, traffic, noise, pollution and corruption. I have been back 48 hours and had two girls for about 16 hours each, plus a trip tp Abacca Spa and paid less in total than a bad massage and a so so HJ back home.

Goferring
08-12-19, 13:55
As suggested in the Cebu Forum, a Summary of my posts on using online Apps in the Philippines.

My apologies for any repetition but sometimes the same question has been asked and answered several times.

There are also some very relevant posts by others around mine. These are also well worth reading if anyone is researching information.

Apologies also for the number of quotes but someone may get value from having the info in one place.

Cheers. G.

How to's.


This is intended as a review of a virgin's introduction to PinaLove rather than a review of possible activities in Cebu.


Typically I rely on face to face options (bars, shopping malls, freelancers etc) for hook ups.Different Apps and Platforms.


If we are just talking about mongering online the answer is "Hell yeah".

The pecking order is:


Users can search for other users, 'People Nearby'.


DIA, Pina love and Fil Cupid cover 99% of the market. Tinder can also be good in the larger cities for contacting hard core hookers.From the Girls' Perspective.


I'm currently in Subic having a lot of good fortune with PinaLove and FilippinoCupid.

I questioned a PL girl about how she uses the dating software, her impressions of the guys she comes across and what she found as a turn off / attractive when replying to messages.General Info.


Chocha and Mr. E are right: don't make this harder than it needs to be:


I agree with everything said. However, I'll be the Devil"s advocate ....


After reading a few posts like those above about the sites becoming less productive to unpaid members and the applicable access restrictions becoming a PITA I decided to have a look for myself.


Be in a hotel in Manila ready to go (none of this "I'm coming next month" bullshit).


I'm starting to wind down in preparation of leaving.


Online Dating Sites Glossary.


Get them onto a chat app ASAP.


I'm polite but honest with everyone so that 1/ there are no surprises 2/ I'm not giving the impression that I've got something to hide and can be shaken down or blackmailed 3/ I'm too stupid to remember which lie I told to which person. Start Making Contact Early or Not?


Many repeat visitors, myself included, find weeks or months of pre work online a total waste of effort. I don't even send a message now until I'm sitting in a hotel in PH.


There are two trains of thought regarding meeting online.


Option 1: About a month out, bulk message all suitable candidates and reply to all messages you receive. You'll get between 100 and 200 replies.


That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites.Device Selection.


Don't go for the cheapest models as they have so little memory that you will not be able to add many apps which will limit online hook ups.Dangers and Scams.


Very true. I've learnt that in PI "18" often means that she is turning 18 next birthday. Not she's 18 now.

Of course you also have the dangers of the flat out liars who are years away from majority.

Enjoy. G.


Last night I was stalking Pina when I came across a girl supposedly flying in from Cebu

PilotPaul
08-14-19, 12:11
As suggested in the Cebu Forum, a Summary of my posts on using online Apps in the Philippines.Thanks for the definitive list. Plenty of reading and homework.

I just got back to Tagged and Pinalove.

Paul.

Member #1088
08-19-19, 19:36
Had a real cute one with multiple sns account flake out on me today. No message, doesn't answer her phone. Such a waste of time.

Two of my regulars are allegedly out of town. A AC BF from earlier this year is in Manila and is willing to come if I offer enough. I'm not sure I'm ready to import sand to the beach!

If anyone has any DIA or other sns contacts that they are willing to share, please pm me. I prefer slim type. I'd appreciate it.

Of course I haven't been celibate the whole time. Pulled a gal out of one of the bars and she was insatiable. She even used my floppy dick to masturbate herself to completion after I couldn't get it up for a third round. See picture in the pic thread. X Man.Hey X Man, here is one for you, her profile says "Better to say let's meet, and don't want to spend time for nothing. Let's see how many times we can have sex before I tire you out. ".

This is her pinalove link.

https://www.pinalove.com/Enna1998

Good luck.

PilotPaul
08-20-19, 11:04
Hey X Man, here is one for you, her profile says "Better to say let's meet, and don't want to spend time for nothing. Let's see how many times we can have sex before I tire you out. ".

This is her pinalove link.

https://www.pinalove.com/Enna1998

Good luck.Seems her account has got very popular.

Engine Driver
08-21-19, 12:17
My trip to the Philippines is still many weeks away and I've been playing around with Pina Love for free for about 2 weeks now as a social experiment. The amount of bullshit on this site is truly nauseating. Reading the profiles, you would think that most of the girls here are virgins, as pure as the driven snow. They are all looking for the right man, their one and only for a serious relationship. They are not into scammers, game playing or for just having fun blah blah blah. Some even quote passages from the Bible to scare you away. Fornicators will go to hell. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. You really need to buy three plastic buckets from Home Depot before sitting down to browse this site. You are going to chuck up a lot. Trust me, most of these girls have had more close encounters with western schlong than your urologist back home.

Another thing I noticed was that most of them are ugly and that's just their faces. I would hate to think what they look like when their tops come off to reveal baby damage or spare tires. At least with a gogo line up, you can see their bodies beforehand. They want to marry 6 feet tall, blonde haired, blue eyed white men who are in the 30-40 age range. But so does every woman in the US, Australia, Canada, Sweden and the UK. Seriously, what do these deluded Pinays actually bring to the relationship? LOL.

I agree with Goferring and others who have said that for short trips under two-weeks, PL pre-work is not worth the effort, since you don't have the luxury of time to be fucked around by useless, unreliable Pinays. The good looking ones simply have too many offers and correspondingly inflated egos.

If you really want to give PL a try, I would suggest that there's no need to buy a subscription and no need to even include a photo on your profile. You can find the hookers in a particular area, contact them by sending one message every 10 minutes and build up a hit list. However, this is a very time consuming exercise. The hookers will have a very basic profile with almost no info, just one or two photos and their target age range will be 'any' to 'any'. As if a normal 18-year old would seriously be looking to date a 70 year old. LOL. Their photos might be a bit revealing or could have been taken in a hotel room. Look for pictures of girls in micro shorts, bikinis etc. Some will have their phone number listed and will say they are looking for fun or are freelance. All you really need are their phone numbers so you can contact them when YOU are ready. Hookers don't keep schedules like me or you, so there's no point contacting them before you land to make an appointment. They don't have a diary to jot down the details. LOL.

Some of my non-hardcore hooker results from PL are below:

1. Josie Age 31, from QC. Reveals she has three kids, only after chatting for two days! Delete.

2. Daisy- Age 28, from Makati. Asks for my photo, then just disappears after I send it. That's 2,000 pesos you won't be getting honey. And BTW, you weren't exactly model material either. Delete.

3. Ashley Age 27, from Makati. Works in HR admin and college educated. Asked for help with her resume, so I re-did it for her. (Yes, I know. Why would an HR admin chick be asking me to help her with her resume? Welcome to the Philippines sir!) Not a word of thanks. Contacts me after 4 days and says she had no load. I bet you had enough load to line up other western cock which already happened to be in Makati. Delete.

My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.

Albert9989
08-21-19, 12:39
My trip to the Philippines is still many weeks away and I've been playing around with Pina Love for free for about 2 weeks now as a social experiment.
,...........

My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.Haha, excellent, and so true.

I did on the ground, just msg saying I am in manila. Answers comes immediately.

Goferring
08-21-19, 19:07
My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.I don't:

Read profiles (they are all the same and meaningless).

Continue polite conversation for weeks / months before arrival.

Use a paid subscription before arrival. There is no need but once I'm in country the $20 removes all restrictions and saves a heap of time, and opens up the blocked 'popular' girls.

I did try those and found it totally pointless and were actually less likely to result in a conversion from contact to bed. For those girls contacted in my 'how to use the unpaid subscription' post, the total interaction has been where are they and what's their number. Thats it. After that, I've just add their numbers to my contact list to message upon arrival. No need for polite discussion about their sick family before hand. Now when I'm in town it's easy to just message all applicable girls that I'm actually in Greenbelt / Ayala etc and would they like to meet? The conversion rate once actually in town is far higher than trying to meet next month.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
08-21-19, 20:54
My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. ED, which of the 'near me' apps can you nominate your (false) location to look at options / availability in other towns? Does this alter with paid / unpaid subscriptions?

I'm always open to new options. However, in the little bit I have used them, I've found a lot of LBs, fraudsters and $300 IG model wannabees.

Thanks. G.

Sammon
08-21-19, 21:40
The amount of bullshit on this site is truly nauseating. Reading the profiles, you would think that most of the girls here are virgins, as pure as the driven snow. Trust me, most of these girls have had more close encounters with western schlong than your urologist back home.

Another thing I noticed was that most of them are ugly and that's just their faces. I would hate to think what they look like when their tops come off to reveal baby damage or spare tires. At least with a gogo line up, you can see their bodies beforehand. They want to marry 6 feet tall, blonde haired, blue eyed white men who are in the 30-40 age range. But so does every woman in the US, Australia, Canada, Sweden and the UK. Seriously, what do these deluded Pinays actually bring to the relationship? LOL.

I agree with Goferring and others who have said that for short trips under two-weeks, The good looking ones simply have too many offers and correspondingly inflated egos.

As if a normal 18-year old would seriously be looking to date a 70 year old. LOL.

Some of my non-hardcore hooker results from PL are below:
My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.To answer you, I use exclusively DIA and have been successful in finding gems out of all bull shit. It is true very few of the girls look the same as their profiles. All girls goal is to marry someone who will be their ticket to stability and happiness.

Some people are quite happy married to Philippine girls.

Although I am not yet 70 I have gotten 18 year old girls in DIA. For Philippine girls age does not seem to matter. They will hold your hand, be romantic in public without regard to age. That is why I go there often. I usually start corresponding 2 months before my trip. I get new ones while keeping previous girls on the side. Some drop out.

Yes, pretty ones have lots of offers. But like any dating relationship starts with liking irrespective of how they look or how you look.

I do not care if the girl has dated and fucked many guys if I like her.

There are very few virgins left who are over 18 in Philippines. Plenty of pretenders and fakes. Other day I was chatting with a girl who admitted having two children although in the profile it does not say. Just because she is not married she considers herself a devout catholic. She says no sex before marriage. When asked how come she got two children with being married she had no answer.

In the end we bullshit, they bullshit and in the end I am happy if the girl stay with me and gives me sex on demand and good company to go around eat.

Mr Enternational
08-22-19, 00:54
Just because she is not married she considers herself a devout catholic. She says no sex before marriage. When asked how come she got two children with being married she had no answer.Classic women's logic.

JackLad100
08-22-19, 10:54
I looked this info up, I think, when I made my first trip a few years ago. I am curious what your gifts amounts are for the dating site girls, for overnight, 5 days, etc.

Thanks in advance.Hey George,

3000 per night. The girls are happy with that in Cebu.

If for a longer period than one night.

You can focus more on the Total; (because that's what the girl will be focused on. So you can pay less than 3000 per day).

Best of Luck.

NewImage
08-22-19, 13:03
"I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things. ".

"The conversion rate once actually in town is far higher than trying to meet next month. ".

Here and now counts. Not maybe and tomorrow. Dating apps = waste of time unless you are on the ground and then why not just use Tinder / Wechat etc.

PilotPaul
08-23-19, 00:37
My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.I think the "free" SIM may have been remodeled a bot on arrivals. They are usually asking for P300-P500 of load and then sign up to a crap plan.

If possible wait until you get to your hotel, grab a sim from the local vendor and use GOTSCOMBODD90 for a week of load. For less that P150.

Also, in typical Filipino fashion they have screwed up the airport free WiFi. A cell number is now needed for access. Last time I never got the activation text as it wasn't going international. Maybe they have fixed that now.

PP.

Goferring
08-23-19, 21:24
ED, which of the 'near me' apps can you nominate your (false) location to look at options / availability in other towns? Does this alter with paid / unpaid subscriptions?

I'm always open to new options. However, in the little bit I have used them, I've found a lot of LBs, fraudsters and $300 IG model wannabees.

Thanks. G.A shameless repost to find which apps can be used to investigate other cities.

Do any users have this info?

Cheers. G.

Kerrstar
08-24-19, 07:26
Also, in typical Filipino fashion they have screwed up the airport free WiFi. A cell number is now needed for access. Last time I never got the activation text as it wasn't going international. Maybe they have fixed that now.They hadn't when I flew out of Manila on Tuesday. Still wouldn't take an international number.

Engine Driver
08-24-19, 07:41
A shameless repost to find which apps can be used to investigate other cities.

Do any users have this info?

Cheers. G.A monger posted here that Tinder Gold allowed him to search other cities, but not sure if he could pretend to be in their city.

PilotPaul
08-24-19, 12:08
A shameless repost to find which apps can be used to investigate other cities.

Do any users have this info?

Cheers. G.I used to be able to use Wechat on Android and have another app to spoof the GPS coordinates. I think Wechat changed their location calls and this method no longer works.

PinaLove lets you set your location wherever you want.

Member #4643
08-24-19, 19:00
Up until now, I have only continued to interact with a girl on a dating site when she promised, in one form or another, to come up to my hotel room. My experience in Thailand, Philippines and the Dominican Republic is that if a girl says yes to a room visit, I will bed her 95% of the time.

However, by asking the girl to come visit me in my room, I risk offending perfectly good non- and semi-pros. The response is typically "I am not a Freelancer, not interested". Indeed, this happened to me just recently by a woman who I was almost certain is a non-pro (https://www.thaifriendly.com/Pang0611). We had such a nice conversation until I mentioned my room. It was very sexual and fun and then all of a sudden, after inviting her to my room, she replied, "I am not a bar girl" and was gone forever.

The reason I do this is because I do not like to spend time on girls who are not interested in sex. Ten years ago, I was much more patient with the women, and always looked at the first date as the screening interview (that is to say, I made no sexual overtures whatsoever until after we had met at a restaurant, cafe or a bar. I would wait until after getting to know the girl to suggest that we go to my room). But I am no longer willing to waste time on dates that don't result in some action, and use "would you come visit me in my room for a glass of wine or soda?" as a screening question. I would say that when no sex is mentioned, my success rate at arranging a date is about 50-60% and if I ask about meeting me in the bedroom, it drops to 15%.

Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.

Sammon
08-24-19, 19:56
Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.Long time I did what you are doing. Meeting outside my room for lunch or dinner. Success rate was at best 20 percent. My target age is 18-24. There were two reasons why I met them outside. One to find out if the girl is to my liking to have sex and the other is to gauge what she expects in return for sex.

Then I changed my attitude to being nice and considerate to ' Dirty Old Man ' looking for sex. Now I openly ask if they are interested in staying with me which includes sex and how much money. Initially they act shocked but some come around saying they need money. Those who play games I ignore. It is a fact they all need sex and money.

For me there is no point in playing dating game wondering if sex is on the menu irrespective of how good girls look. I am not looking to parade girls for eye candy. Some borderline ugly girls gave me the best sex like the factory worker in Taguig. She was insatiable. I met her through a pretty girl who was visiting her province when I was in town. If I would have met her outside I would not have even considered sex.

Lately all the girls want 5000 pesos for sex. I laugh and offer them half that. Some take and others say no. Obviously there are mongers who are paying that kind of money.

So in your case I suggest getting straight to the point in asking for sex and compensation. Believe me if agreed big elephant is off your chest and you both will have a good time.

Goferring
08-24-19, 23:04
The reason I do this is because I do not like to spend time on girls who are not interested in sex.

Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.


Now I openly ask if they are interested in staying with me which includes sex and how much money. Initially they act shocked but some come around saying they need money. Those who play games I ignore. It is a fact they all need sex and money.Some guys are looking for the 'good girls' to wine and dine and enjoy that experience. If you're not then Sammon is right: just say so from the out set.

I would add that how you say it can affect who accepts. Asking if she's ok with BB anal will weed out everyone but the hard core pros very quickly and remove any doubt over what is expected. Of course if you want the broke part timer but don't want to scare her off then asking if she's ok with something less serious while she searches for the ubiquitous 'long term relatonship' says the same thing.

I usually start with the later but as numbers and opportunities pile up then my introductory question becomes more and more blunt.

Presenting the opportunity for her to pick up some cash now when you are in town is also far more enticing than suggesting you meet when you arrive 'next month'.

Of course sex is assumed as a given on the hook up apps like Tinder etc.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
08-25-19, 02:19
The response is typically "I am not a Freelancer, not interested". Indeed, this happened to me just recently by a woman who I was almost certain is a non-pro (https://www.thaifriendly.com/Pang0611). We had such a nice conversation until I mentioned my room. It was very sexual and fun and then all of a sudden, after inviting her to my room, she replied, "I am not a bar girl" and was gone forever.A chick saying she is not a bar girl, is not saying that she is not a hooker. I don't know if you speak Thai, but the name Pang says it all. It means expensive. Take it how you want.

I know it is a broken record, but some guys have no game. Hookers are hookers and you can ask them to your room. A normal chick wants to be "led" to your room. How do you lead a chick to your room? Depends on the chick. All are different and each case is treated separately. Can't seem so thirsty and eager to get a chick to your room when dealing with a non-pro. One thing has to lead to another.

If you don't want to spend time on chicks that are not interested in sex, then pay a hooker. It is like why pop into a steak restaurant hoping they have seafood when you can just as easily drive your ass to Seafood Sal's?

Engine Driver
08-25-19, 10:44
Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.You might just want to focus on the ones who are clearly 'working ladies' on the dating sites. Some mongers like the thrill of the chase and want to do the romancing bit, before trying to take the chica upstairs to the room and ripping her panties off. It's just a fantasy they can't play out at home, so they might as well try it in the Phils. Personally, I don't yearn for Filipina company at the bottom end (although it is often interesting to learn of their situation) and secondly, I don't have the time to waste on useless dinners which might not yield anything.

To weed out the girls who are actually looking for their life partner and a one way ticket out of shitsville, as opposed to the hookers who want to come to your room right now, there are a couple of things you can do. Don't include a profile pic. Hookers will still respond to a blank profile, but genuine ladies won't. I have not included a picture on PL (it would be professional suicide if anyone found out my hobby), but have still managed to accumulate the WhatsApp numbers of 40 hookers in various cities over the past two weeks. Next, carefully look at their pictures and profile. A hooker will have the age range set to "any to any". There also might only be one or two photos, usually taken in a hotel room or while wearing sexy clothes. Look at the photo below. This chick comes from Davao, which is a more conservative area than AC. However, her photo has a large amount of side boob showing and has been taken in a monger's hotel room. She is not marriage material. I sent her one text through the PL free service and then got her WhatsApp number straight away with an invitation to call her when I land in Davao. There might be whole heap of non-hooker grade chicks with lovely photos and profiles, with normal jobs who might be still be interested in coming to your room right away. I'm just trying to increase the hit rate here.

Now I'm expecting a flake out rate of 66%, so of those 40 hookers I have connected with, only about 13 will actually turn up. Chicks will go missing for a number of reasons including menstruation duty, no load, gone back to the province, got a better offer from a Korean with a two inch dick, hungover from last night, still sleeping etc.

Mongers need to ask themselves exactly how many hookers or semi-pros do they really need to line up before the arrive at NAIA and not to worry about the fear of missing out (FOMO). Also, older mongers need to ask themselves how many times they can pop in a two week sexcation. If you are a whippersnapper like Skogis, you can probably get through 56 chicas in two weeks. If you are an older monger, 14 might be a more realistic number.

While we all acknowledge that the game is now going on line, I will still get most of my chicas from other sources. I like going to bars and looking at the line up and chatting to the girls. I like the whole BF routine. It feels like a vacation to go out each night. There are so many ways to get laid, including massage parlours, bikini bars, street walkers, upscale escort services and night clubs. So what's the point of having my list of 40 hookers? Just back up, particularly in places like Davao where the bar action (Hot Legs) is not much good.

PilotPaul
08-25-19, 12:05
Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.You seem to be making good progress with your own screening rate. As your numbers increase and your arrival approaches you can be more blunt.

As a salesperson by training I find I take the approach of having a pipeline. Lots of potentials at the top of the funnel which then get worked over until I get my shortlist.

I also include a group of the hard to get local girl next door non-pro open minded girl. I have my fallback option but always find some time to meet this group. It might be a mid-morning coffee, an early dinner etc, meeting them outside of my prime punting time. For these girls I will usually have promised some pasulobong which I have intentionally left in my hotel room. Often works to get them into the room. Let them relax and enjoy their company.

PP.

Goferring
08-25-19, 20:52
You might just want to focus on the ones who are clearly 'working ladies' on the dating sites. .If their username is their viber number it's a dead give away. Also watch for girls that clearly give answers a monger wants.

User 0956782345.

Q: Do you have viber or WhatsApp? A: +63956782345.

Q: Where are you? A: Behind Glorietta.

Q: Want to come over? A: Sure.

Vs.

User Sweety4 you.

Q: Do you have a viber or WhatsApp number? A: Yes.

Q: What is it? A: 0912345677.

Q: (Too shy / clueless to put her location in her profile) Where are you? A: At home.

Q: Do you want to meet? A: Can I bring a friend?

Enjoy. G.

Sammon
08-26-19, 02:14
Vs.

User Sweety4 you.

Q: Do you have a viber or WhatsApp number? A: Yes.

Q: What is it? A: 0912345677.

Q: (Too shy / clueless to put her location in her profile) Where are you? A: At home.

Q: Do you want to meet? A: Can I bring a friend?

Enjoy. G.My next question will be your friend is willing to have sex with me? You will be surprised some say yes.

Mr Enternational
08-26-19, 03:37
My next question will be your friend is willing to have sex with me? You will be surprised some say yes.Followed by, my friend is ladyboy. She like sex with foreign man.

Goferring
08-26-19, 03:51
My next question will be your friend is willing to have sex with me? You will be surprised some say yes.Plenty of the busy girls send standin girl friends if they are too busy or aren't happy to provide some special requests. . Sometimes with warning, sometimes without.

Again, if a young girl is being sent to a stranger's hotel room by her girlfriend, it ain't to empty the ashtray.

Enjoy. G.

Kabul Guy
08-29-19, 03:43
.....

There are very few virgins left who are over 18 in Philippines. Plenty of pretenders and fakes. Other day I was chatting with a girl who admitted having two children although in the profile it does not say. Just because she is not married she considers herself a devout catholic. She says no sex before marriage. When asked how come she got two children with being married she had no answer.

.....Cathloic logic, immaculate conception perhaps?

Chocha Monger
08-29-19, 04:16
Followed by, my friend is ladyboy. She like sex with foreign man.'My friend want to drive you. She like to top the poriner,' she says. Of course, the part about the friend being a ladyboy is only revealed after she is in the room and the shy friend joins the action from behind.

Kabul Guy
08-29-19, 04:16
Some guys are looking for the 'good girls' to wine and dine and enjoy that experience. If you're not then Sammon is right: just say so from the out set.


.......I always start out on the good girl assumption initially. Quickly I will decide if she is a semi pro or pro or if she is someone I just want to fuck with no social interaction with her.

These I simply ask if they will come up to my room, no hint of meeting for supper first, if she asks about a GF I say sure as long as you are both open minded. If this needs explaination I tell them we will have a 3 some. I will tell them I will pay all expenses so they know that they will get some cash, if they ask explicity I will name a sum that varies depending on how hot they are and how horney I am.

Regular good girls I will chase more traditionally, sometimes three or more meetings, supper, movie, swims etc. Before I bring up the idea of sex, but then these have nice tight pussies and are fucking for love not money.

Sometimes I guess wrong, but my batting aerage is always improving.

ForkTruck
08-29-19, 06:49
There are very few virgins left who are over 18 in Philippines. Plenty of pretenders and fakes. Other day I was chatting with a girl who admitted having two children although in the profile it does not say. Just because she is not married she considers herself a devout catholic. She says no sex before marriage. When asked how come she got two children with being married she had no answer. Recent news story about the big increase in Philippines Teen pregnancies claims it is the result of families staying in relief shelters during typhoon and earthquake events. Apperently it is so crowded in the shelters that boys and girls just happen to have sex Ha ha. Goes to show how easy it is. Just get close to one and she will fuck you. Staying a virgin is more luck than planning and discipline.

PilotPaul
08-29-19, 08:08
There are very few virgins left who are over 18 in Philippines. Plenty of pretenders and fakes. Other day I was chatting with a girl who admitted having two children although in the profile it does not say. Just because she is not married she considers herself a devout catholic. She says no sex before marriage. When asked how come she got two children with being married she had no answer.I had a similar, pinay said she had never slept with anyone before me. I asked her how she got her 3 year old son. No answer.

I guess technically she had never slept over with anyone. As per the typhoon sex story below, pinay don't have the chance to sleep over in the way we associate going away for the weekend with our first girlfriends.

D Cups
08-29-19, 13:28
Have any of you wealthier horn dogs bought your girl a boob job in the PI? This is a serious inquiry. Details please. I have a new GF from Leyte / Cebu who has 36 C tits but she might be open to getting bigger ones. There is no cure for boob addiction except bigger boobs.

Goferring
08-29-19, 20:14
Have any of you wealthier horn dogs bought your girl a boob job in the PI? This is a serious inquiry. Details please. I have a new GF from Leyte / Cebu who has 36 C tits but she might be open to getting bigger ones. There is no cure for boob addiction except bigger boobs.Nope. But pose the question in the Thai forum. Many guys 'upgrade' their GFs there. 80 kB has been mentioned many times.

Cheers. G.

Wicked Roger
08-30-19, 01:43
Nope. But pose the question in the Thai forum. Many guys 'upgrade' their GFs there. 80 kB has been mentioned many times.

Cheers. G.I have some idea the so PM me as easier to chat and where etc. Prices depend the provider but as G says, Thai is generally cheaper in Bangkok, Phuket also.

PilotPaul
08-31-19, 06:00
Have any of you wealthier horn dogs bought your girl a boob job in the PI? This is a serious inquiry. Details please. I have a new GF from Leyte / Cebu who has 36 C tits but she might be open to getting bigger ones. There is no cure for boob addiction except bigger boobs.Try Voodoo bar. Ask for Ana. Usually works 6 pm - 3 am.

Engine Driver
08-31-19, 09:39
Have any of you wealthier horn dogs bought your girl a boob job in the PI? This is a serious inquiry. Details please. I have a new GF from Leyte / Cebu who has 36 C tits but she might be open to getting bigger ones. There is no cure for boob addiction except bigger boobs.It's around 120 k if you are using a reputable surgeon in Manila.

Chocha Monger
08-31-19, 11:20
It's around 120 k if you are using a reputable surgeon in Manila.Now, that right there is a boob job! A monger spends 120,000 pesos on a breast implants to make a LBFM more sexually appealing to other mongers. Her sexual marketplace value goes up and his walking-ATM value goes down. When she upgrades to a young stud, she will be taking those 120,000-peso silicone tits with her and leaving the elderly financier with his dick in his hand. Worst deal ever!

Goferring
08-31-19, 21:58
Now, that right there is a boob job! A monger spends 120,000 pesos on a breast implants to make a LBFM more sexually appealing to other mongers. Her sexual marketplace value goes up and his walking-ATM value goes down. When she upgrades to a young stud, she will be taking those 120,000-peso silicone tits with her and leaving the elderly financier with his dick in his hand. Worst deal ever!You mean like that American guy who youtubes himself picking up chicks thru Thailand and wider asia. He paid $1800 for his 'girl friends' tits. They were spectacular and I'm not even a tits guy. Seems like a good investment to me. LOL.

DC, for your viewing pleasure:

https://youtu.be/RvVlE0wzZTg

https://youtu.be/J-tJwlC_0mY

X Man
08-31-19, 22:01
Pulled a gal out of LA Cafe who had a nice set of enhanced breasts. She said her German ex paid for them. Thank you Hans.


Now, that right there is a boob job! A monger spends 120,000 pesos on a breast implants to make a LBFM more sexually appealing to other mongers. Her sexual marketplace value goes up and his walking-ATM value goes down. When she upgrades to a young stud, she will be taking those 120,000-peso silicone tits with her and leaving the elderly financier with his dick in his hand. Worst deal ever!

PedroMorales
08-31-19, 23:44
You mean like that American guy who youtubes himself picking up chicks thru Thailand and wider asia. He paid $1800 for his 'girl friends' tits. They were spectacular and I'm not even a tits guy. Seems like a good investment to me. LOL. DC, for your viewing pleasure:$1800, the price of stupidity. I hope they boobs don't get in the way when she is back picking rice. She was cute enugh to begin with but let's face it, a pair of boobs won't mae her more of a catch to non Issan Thais. She can't even trade them in for gold or a motor bike.

Dg8787
09-01-19, 00:54
$1800, the price of stupidity. I hope they boobs don't get in the way when she is back picking rice. She was cute enugh to begin with but let's face it, a pair of boobs won't mae her more of a catch to non Issan Thais. She can't even trade them in for gold or a motor bike.Enlarged boobs have always proven to increase earning power. Great investment. Just make sure you get repayment by ass or cash with interest.

Never seen an enhanced see or the lose out.

Mr Enternational
09-01-19, 01:32
Now, that right there is a boob job! A monger spends 120,000 pesos on a breast implants to make a LBFM more sexually appealing to other mongers. Just like when my boy bought a chick a computer. I said why the hell would you buy her a computer that she can go online to meet other guys with? These mongers guys are something else.

CzarNicholas
09-01-19, 01:35
Enlarged boobs have always proven to increase earning power. Great investment. Just make sure you get repayment by ass or cash with interest.

Never seen an enhanced see or the lose out.Enlarged boobs have always proven to increase earning power.

Or rube would say such nonsense.

Big tits represent 1 of 2 things.

Water balloons inside or a higher BMI.

I run the other way every time.

Goferring
09-01-19, 01:39
$1800, the price of stupidity.Not for that guy. Research the number of views / clips those starred in. Made him a small fortune (plus the fun factor as well).

I'd agree as a stand alone 'influencer' she's gone nowhere.

Cheers. G.

CzarNicholas
09-01-19, 01:49
Just like when my boy bought a chick a computer. I said why the hell would you buy her a computer that she can go online to meet other guys with? These mongers guys are something else.

LMAO.

Engine Driver
09-01-19, 05:07
Nope. But pose the question in the Thai forum. Many guys 'upgrade' their GFs there. 80 kB has been mentioned many times.

Cheers. G.I've seen many times what an 80 k baht boob job looks like. Lots of Thai hookers in Australia. One nipple will point up and one will point down. LOL.

WestCoast1
09-01-19, 12:54
One nipple will point up and one will point down. LOL.Sometimes when I drink Empi, my eyes do the same thing haha.

Chocha Monger
09-01-19, 13:42
I've seen many times what an 80 k baht boob job looks like. Lots of Thai hookers in Australia. One nipple will point up and one will point down. LOL.Those hookers sure look proud of their 80 K baht bi-directional tits. LOL! It looks more like a downgrade instead of an upgrade. Maybe, that is what their elderly sponsors had in mind to ward off the competition.

D Cups
09-01-19, 16:17
I've seen many times what an 80 k baht boob job looks like. Lots of Thai hookers in Australia. One nipple will point up and one will point down. LOL.The nips on the left girl remind me of cock-eyed Marty Feldman hahahhahhaahha. I guess you get what you pay for in the boob job department. Choca Monger come on man I know you like this weird boobage man, admit it.

PilotPaul
09-09-19, 14:04
When I'm travelling it is best practice for me to operate two phones. A couple of apps let you have multiple logins on the same phone:

Skype: can logout of one account and log into another.

WeChat: same process, can only use one account at a time.

FB Messenger: same.

Viber & Whatsapp: SO far have not seen a way to access multiple accounts on the same app.

For Whatsapp there is a workaround. Install "Whatsapp for Business" which has the exact same functionality as Whatsapp. This allows me to have two whatsapp accounts (IE work number and play number) on the same phone.

Any mixing of mongering activity on a work phone will result in some security issue between the data sets of contacts. Tread carefully.

Might be useful for someone.

Kabul Guy
09-11-19, 03:14
When I'm travelling it is best practice for me to operate two phones. A couple of apps let you have multiple logins on the same phone:
......I have an S8+ with dual sim capability. It allows installation of two instances of several of the communication apps, WhatsApp, Skype and Viber are currently active on two different accounts on the same phone.

PilotPaul
09-12-19, 05:57
I have an S8+ with dual sim capability. It allows installation of two instances of several of the communication apps, WhatsApp, Skype and Viber are currently active on two different accounts on the same phone.That sounds like an interesting solution.

Goferring
09-13-19, 02:59
That sounds like an interesting solution.Why are guys looking to have multiple accounts in one phone? A serious question. I thought people would be looking to separate their civilian and mongering lives in which case you wouldn't want both sets of info on the same phone. Alternatively, you're single and don't care, in which case why go to the bother of multiple accounts?

Am I missing something?

Cheers. G.

Kabul Guy
09-13-19, 03:35
Why are guys looking to have multiple accounts in one phone? A serious question. I thought people would be looking to separate their civilian and mongering lives in which case you wouldn't want both sets of info on the same phone. Alternatively, you're single and don't care, in which case why go to the bother of multiple accounts?

Am I missing something?

Cheers. G.I am single and don't care about mixing mongering and personal contacts on one phone.

I use the two instances of WhatsApp for personal, including mongering and the second for work to keep work and personal separate.

I use two instances of Skype because my main Skype is my real name and the other is not directly tied to me. That way any Skype contact can start of where I have some anonymity before I'll reveal my real name. That is useful for salesmen and hookers.

PilotPaul
09-15-19, 12:09
I am single and don't care about mixing mongering and personal contacts on one phone.Any time we are using the apps on the same phone there will be leakage of contacts across the apps. For instance, FB will diligently try to add all the contacts to each username on the same phone. They do that intentionally.

I recall I had a security issue with my 2nd Skype account getting access to my regular Skype contacts.

Anyway, I just sometimes am comfortable to manage my multiple "persona" from the same phone.

As an ongoing security precaution I usually create a new mongering persona every 3-5 months.

Paul.

CallSign Papa
09-15-19, 13:40
Why are guys looking to have multiple accounts in one phone? A serious question. I thought people would be looking to separate their civilian and mongering lives in which case you wouldn't want both sets of info on the same phone. Alternatively, you're single and don't care, in which case why go to the bother of multiple accounts?

Am I missing something?

Cheers. G.I have an android phone, and am able to have two different user accounts (one for my every day life, and one for the mischief). It means that if my other half wants to use my phone I can switch the password protected account and have total confidence that she won't find anything problematic. Having two phones always raises questions.

This won't work with an iPhone which is the main reason I jumped ship. So far I've had this setup for 2 years and never had an issue.

Wicked Roger
09-15-19, 16:04
I have an android phone, and am able to have two different user accounts (one for my every day life, and one for the mischief). It means that if my other half wants to use my phone I can switch the password protected account and have total confidence that she won't find anything problematic. Having two phones always raises questions.Does this also mean the photos you may have of the naughty deeds etc are also password protected or you never have any so that is not an issue? Friend of mine caught by his photo gallery. His Recycle Bin got him.

I have 3 phones but I can justify that due to business and lots of travelling plus the need to have one number permanently available etc.

PilotPaul
09-16-19, 00:42
Does this also mean the photos you may have of the naughty deeds etc are also password protected or you never have any so that is not an issue? Friend of mine caught by his photo gallery. His Recycle Bin got him.

I have 3 phones but I can justify that due to business and lots of travelling plus the need to have one number permanently available etc.I use Google Photos for storing pics. I use a separate gmail address which has two factor ID via the google authenticator. Account can be locked on the mobile and easily removed.

I doubt my account strategy would survive a proper 'forensic' search. It has however survived a jealous pinay search.

As another topic, when it came my turn to search her phone it was easy. I just looked firstly in the same places that she had looked on my phone. Then I looked in Notifications to see the apps where she had turned off notifications in order to hide them from me hearing them.

PP.

Member #1088
09-19-19, 17:34
Well, I just have a long chat in viber with a working girl in Manila.

We talk about many things.

Is good sometimes just to talk to find out more about the enviroment.

One thing she told me is that she makes 70000 pesos per month with her work.

Do you think is high? I think she just was blowing smoke, LOL LOL.

Mr Enternational
09-19-19, 19:03
Well, I just have a long chat in viber with a working girl in Manila. One thing she told me is that she makes 70000 pesos per month with her work. Do you think is high? I think she just was blowing smoke, LOL LOL.I think SHE was high!

Sammon
09-19-19, 21:14
I think SHE was high!She could be right for some months. If she fucks somebody every day at 3000 that will be 90000.

Depends on if she is pretty, young with nice body. I had met a girl in LA cafe while ago who was quite pretty and was going to the Korean corner before I grabbed her. Asked about the price she said she gets 5000st with Koreans. She needs to work only half the month to make 70000. She said Koreans want eye candy to be with them and they are not sex maniacs like western people. So she rarely goes with westerners. However she was willing to go with me for 3000st. I did not take her.

If the girl is pretty and goes to the right places she could make lot of money. Longevity and earnings on average will fluctuate.

Engine Driver
09-19-19, 22:53
She could be right for some months. If she fucks somebody every day at 3000 that will be 90000.

Depends on if she is pretty, young with nice body. I had met a girl in LA cafe while ago who was quite pretty and was going to the Korean corner before I grabbed her. Asked about the price she said she gets 5000st with Koreans. She needs to work only half the month to make 70000. She said Koreans want eye candy to be with them and they are not sex maniacs like western people. So she rarely goes with westerners. However she was willing to go with me for 3000st. I did not take her.

If the girl is pretty and goes to the right places she could make lot of money. Longevity and earnings on average will fluctuate.This is entirely possible. Yesterday on PL I was quoted 10 k for LT by a nice looking Manila girl with big tits. She only needs 7 mongers a month at that rate. We also do not know how much sponsorship money she is getting each month from love struck mongers in far away lands who will never set foot in the Philippines.

Goferring
09-20-19, 00:34
We also do not know how much sponsorship money she is getting each month from love struck mongers in far away lands who will never set foot in the Philippines.I'd totally agree with what you have said. Many girls would be earning more from time spent on their phone or at Western Union than from actually meeting guys. Its astonishing how much some guys are sending girls yet seldom / never meeting them.


This is entirely possible. Yesterday on PL I was quoted 10 k for LT by a nice looking Manila girl with big tits. She only needs 7 mongers a month at that rate. Multiply allowances by several patrons and the girls are doing very well. For many, like the pretty girl you mention, it would actually cost them money to sit in a bar all night to hustle a few drinks and maybe one bar fine.

Enjoy. G.

Blanquiceleste
09-20-19, 00:54
This is entirely possible. Yesterday on PL I was quoted 10 k for LT by a nice looking Manila girl with big tits. She only needs 7 mongers a month at that rate. We also do not know how much sponsorship money she is getting each month from love struck mongers in far away lands who will never set foot in the Philippines.Of course its possible. Someone mentioned about PI chicks on Instagram a while ago. Those girls make even more money, plus the endless holidays in fancy resorts, trips to exotic places and expensive gifts from multiple lovestruck sugar daddies.

Many demand upwards of 15 k to 20 k a night, which for many men is simply a drop in their ocean of wealth. We can all comment about the foolishness of these men but the fact remains that many of these girls might be making more money each month than you and me.

Engine Driver
09-20-19, 09:14
I'd totally agree with what you have said. Many girls would be earning more from time spent on their phone or at Western Union than from actually meeting guys. Its astonishing how much some guys are sending girls yet seldom / never meeting them.

Multiply allowances by several patrons and the girls are doing very well. For many, like the pretty girl you mention, it would actually cost them money to sit in a bar all night to hustle a few drinks and maybe one bar fine.

Enjoy. G.PL is the great disrupter of the adult entertainment industry in the Philippines. I was a sceptic at first, but I'm now a convert. I can see how much damage PL is doing to the bars. In my country, Uber has killed the taxi industry.

When I was on the 'Pampanga' setting on PL, I was surprised to so many bar girls on there. The game now in town in AC is to prebook your bar hottie on PL and then grab the takeout later. I've pre-booked a sizzling hot stunner from an all Korean bar for next week. She told me to be there at 6.00pm when it opens. Let's see if I can be the great disrupter.

The Koreans take this to another level. The papasan emails photos of his line up to the tour group, and they just prebook all the hotties before hand

Goferring
09-20-19, 17:52
The game now in town in AC is to prebook your bar hottie on PL and then grab the takeout later. I've pre-booked a sizzling hot stunner from an all Korean bar for next week. She told me to be there at 6.00pm when it opens. Let's see if I can be the great disrupter.
I can understand why you are using PL to secure a cutie. However, why is the girl even turning up at the bar? Presumably you are paying BF plus tip. If she is a pretty as you say (and I have no reason to doubt you) she could be receiving 100% of this money nightly plus afternoon in fills, rather than paying the bar's commission, if she dedicated her time to online.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
09-20-19, 18:17
I can understand why you are using PL to secure a cutie. However, why is the girl even turning up at the bar?The question is why is HE even turning up at the bar? If he has already cut out the middle man, why double back and pay the middle man a tax for something he did not earn?

Engine Driver
09-20-19, 20:08
I can understand why you are using PL to secure a cutie. However, why is the girl even turning up at the bar? Presumably you are paying BF plus tip. If she is a pretty as you say (and I have no reason to doubt you) she could be receiving 100% of this money nightly plus afternoon in fills, rather than paying the bar's commission, if she dedicated her time to online.

Enjoy. G.Sometimes logic does not apply in the Philippines. Maybe she wants the steady bar salary? She might not be confident to go freelance yet. Maybe she wants to meet someone who can take her out of the bar forever? Maybe she wants to secure a bar fine beforehand without competing with the other girls? Going online provides more options for her. She sure knows that a Korean party boy is not taking her back to Busan.

In response to Mr E, many mongers don't care if it's 1500 or 3000. You remember the time with the girl long after the price is forgotten. Have you ever been so intrigued by a girl that you just need to get her? LOL

Blanquiceleste
09-21-19, 11:34
Sometimes logic does not apply in the Philippines. Maybe she wants the steady bar salary? She might not be confident to go freelance yet. Maybe she wants to meet someone who can take her out of the bar forever? Maybe she wants to secure a bar fine beforehand without competing with the other girls? Going online provides more options for her. She sure knows that a Korean party boy is not taking her back to Busan.

In response to Mr E, many mongers don't care if it's 1500 or 3000. You remember the time with the girl long after the price is forgotten. Have you ever been so intrigued by a girl that you just need to get her? LOLIn all probability she wants to show off her trophy to her workmates. When you go to the bar, she will preen like a peacock in front of her workmates to show how she has used PL to bag a 'poriner'. And I totally agree, I remember the great times I have spent with all the girls, their names, their bodies and the nasty things we did, but I rarely remember how much I paid in the bar, how much I spent on drinks, how much I spent on a Jollibee meal or how much I tipped her when the girl left.

Life is too short to think about such stuff.

Goferring
09-22-19, 00:40
Does anyone know how to hide WhatsApp chat strings?

Archiving leaves them visible again with just one mouse click.

Cheers. G.

CallSign Papa
09-22-19, 05:35
Hello mate, hope all is well.

Basically only the photos you take in that account appear in your gallery. I therefore have to remind myself to use the right account for the type of photos I'm taking. But yes, I can have total confidence that (bar user error) naughty photos won't appear in my "real life" gallery.

Happy to talk you through it on whatsapp.


Does this also mean the photos you may have of the naughty deeds etc are also password protected or you never have any so that is not an issue? Friend of mine caught by his photo gallery. His Recycle Bin got him.

I have 3 phones but I can justify that due to business and lots of travelling plus the need to have one number permanently available etc.

CallSign Papa
09-22-19, 05:44
Not seen too much chat about the app Tantan on here. Thought I'd give my thoughts.

It's basically an Asia focused Tinder, which has a smaller user-base, but if you're looking for girls in Manila or Jakarta, this app is pretty damn good. It's the standard swipe left / right fare and has a cheap VIP option that enables unlimited matches and the ability to change your location (to hit the ground running). My last two Manila trips have been almost exclusively Tantan girls (for new meetups). A couple of caveats:

1) 90% of girls you match who are in Malate or QC will likely be KTV / Japanese lounge girls looking to get you to their club to hawk over-priced drinks. Best to save your time and focus on girls in Makati / Paranaque.

2) At least 20% are LBs, and you need to be quite careful as some catfish.

Having said that, I've met some real cuties. Some have introduced a financial reward into the meetings (fine by me), but the majority were happy with lunch / dinner / gifts.

It's currently the only app I'm using, but as always in this topsy-turvy town, YMMV.

Mogwai
09-22-19, 10:31
The question is why is HE even turning up at the bar? If he has already cut out the middle man, why double back and pay the middle man a tax for something he did not earn?Because she will most likely only go with him if he turns up at the bar. She's not allowed to leave the bar without a man who has paid the barfine.

Blanquiceleste
09-22-19, 16:47
Not seen too much chat about the app Tantan on here. Thought I'd give my thoughts.

It's basically an Asia focused Tinder, which has a smaller user-base, but if you're looking for girls in Manila or Jakarta, this app is pretty damn good. It's the standard swipe left / right fare and has a cheap VIP option that enables unlimited matches and the ability to change your location (to hit the ground running). My last two Manila trips have been almost exclusively Tantan girls (for new meetups).

SNIP

It's currently the only app I'm using, but as always in this topsy-turvy town, YMMV.I had reported using TanTan about a year ago, when I was travelling to China and I had excellent results in Shanghai with it. I have never used it in the Philippine or in Indonesia, but this gives me some additional firepower. Most times, just Tinder and Baoo do the trick on ground. In Philippines particularly, DIA and PL help a lot if I am preparing for a long trip. I don't bother doing that in Indonesia because, honestly, there, the opportunity to get laid is literally around every corner. And its more fun that way for me.

Good to know its working in PI and ID.

Mr Enternational
09-22-19, 17:30
Because she will most likely only go with him if he turns up at the bar. She's not allowed to leave the bar without a man who has paid the barfine.That is what days off and hours off are for. You do not necessarily have to get the girl during her work hours.

Goferring
09-22-19, 21:09
Hello mate, hope all is well.

Basically only the photos you take in that account appear in your gallery. I therefore have to remind myself to use the right account for the type of photos I'm taking. But yes, I can have total confidence that (bar user error) naughty photos won't appear in my "real life" gallery.

Happy to talk you through it on whatsapp.CSP,

Can you expand here. Many of us are looking for dependable ways to retain WA etc images or chats for future use yet they can be securely hidden.

I, for one, have been taking the ultra cautious path of exporting then deleting my Contacts list and deleting all messages, photos etc the day before returning home. Safe, but I always end up losing track of who is who or the content of chats we may have had.

I did try exporting WA chats too but the txt file is essentially unreadable and to my knowledge, can't be reimported into WA.

Cheers. G.

BrainDrain
09-23-19, 00:13
I, for one, have been taking the ultra cautious path of exporting then deleting my Contacts list and deleting all messages, photos etc the day before returning home. Safe, but I always end up losing track of who is who or the content of chats we may have had..I had good success with my iPhone backup. I had an account for overseas travels which I would backup the entire phone to my monger email iTunes account. When I was at the airport departing for my next overseas adventure I would restore that backup to my phone. Essentially each time I arrived home I reset my phone back to factory then restored my home account.

Goferring
09-23-19, 04:20
I had good success with my iPhone backup. I had an account for overseas travels which I would backup the entire phone to my monger email iTunes account. When I was at the airport departing for my next overseas adventure I would restore that backup to my phone. Essentially each time I arrived home I reset my phone back to factory then restored my home account.Yep, I think back up and restore from mongermail might be the solution. On Android this requires uninstalling and reinstalling WA but that's hardly a chore if I retain the sim cards / numbers for revalidation.

Cheers. G.

CallSign Papa
09-23-19, 04:22
Sure, so on most Android phones you can create multiple user accounts. For instance, my two profiles are "Travel" and "Home". On my "home" account I have my standard address book, all my apps from my every day life and the camera roll of photos that would not see my dick cut off with a machete by her indoors.

On my "travel" account I have the same address book but with my 'extra friends', plus the apps that come in handy (fake facebook, fake insta, badoo, tantan etc). On this camera roll are the photos that are definitely NSFW. The only issue is that for Whatsapp, you would need two sims (one for each account) as you can't have the same instance running on both.

I am VERY careful to ensure that if my phone is laying around it is on the "home" profile. My other half has my phone code and can use it to her hearts content.

Here's an overview of how to set it up:

https://www.howtogeek.com/333484/how-to-set-up-multiple-user-profiles-on-android/


CSP,

Can you expand here. Many of us are looking for dependable ways to retain WA etc images or chats for future use yet they can be securely hidden.

I, for one, have been taking the ultra cautious path of exporting then deleting my Contacts list and deleting all messages, photos etc the day before returning home. Safe, but I always end up losing track of who is who or the content of chats we may have had.

I did try exporting WA chats too but the txt file is essentially unreadable and to my knowledge, can't be reimported into WA.

Cheers. G.

Goferring
09-23-19, 04:42
Sure, so on most Android phones you can create multiple user accounts. Looks good. The only risk I can see is that if she opens the Account Profile selector and sees multiple accounts but you would expect these to be protected by (different) passwords.

Does Home Facebook get friend recommendations for Travel Facebook friends?

Thanks. G.

PilotPaul
09-23-19, 12:47
On my "travel" account I have the same address book but with my 'extra friends', plus the apps that come in handy (fake facebook, fake insta, badoo, tantan etc). On this camera roll are the photos that are definitely NSFW. The only issue is that for Whatsapp, you would need two sims (one for each account) as you can't have the same instance running on both.For Whatsapp, use WHatsapp for Business to give you the second account. The WA Biz account only needs the SIM at time of registration and once registered will run on the hone with a different number.

CallSign Papa
09-24-19, 16:13
Thankfully she's not that tech savvy aand because her phone only has one profile (iPhone) she naturally thinks it's the same for all. And yes, both user accounts have a different password (neither are fingerprint protected since I had a friend have his wife unlock his phone when he was sleeping and hooooooo boy was he ever in trouble!

Fake Facebook is a whole other issue. When I first started the fake account I had to go in and block about 200 people who were on my real FB friends list. A lot of effort but over time I stopped getting the two bleed into each other (I used a different set of contact details for each during login too). If you're going to use a fake FB account you've really got to be vigilant, but for me it's more than worth the effort.


Looks good. The only risk I can see is that if she opens the Account Profile selector and sees multiple accounts but you would expect these to be protected by (different) passwords.

Does Home Facebook get friend recommendations for Travel Facebook friends?

Thanks. G.

Goferring
09-24-19, 21:36
Fake Facebook is a whole other issue. When I first started the fake account I had to go in and block about 200 people who were on my real FB friends list. A lot of effort but over time I stopped getting the two bleed into each other (I used a different set of contact details for each during login too). If you're going to use a fake FB account you've really got to be vigilant, but for me it's more than worth the effort.Yep, FBs tentacles are so wide that fucking up terrifies me. It seems to be able to connect the dots regardless if how many precautions are taken and, worst of all, you can't opt out of being recommended to others. I can just ignore or block recommendations for civilian friends on a naughty account but that naughty account being recommended to civilian friends could cause a whole world of pain.

It might be time to get another cheap phone / sim / social accounts just for FB and make sure there are NO connections between it and other devices / accounts. I thought I had done that but clearly I have not been cautious/paranoid enough in separating the accounts.

A lot of fucking around I know but I do seem to be coming across many girls now who only have Messenger.

Cheers. G.

AussieGaigin
09-25-19, 04:45
I tried setting up a fake account on an independent phone, and the first "people you might know" to appear was me.

Goferring
09-25-19, 08:13
I tried setting up a fake account on an independent phone, and the first "people you might know" to appear was me.Now that's funny. 😄.

The smallest amount of research on Big Data shows that Google, Facebook etc can cross reference so much more than just Contact Lists and usernames that you can restrict permission for.

Phones are in the same house / office many days in a row? Phones catch the same flight at 3 am? Phones are used to log onto any website using the same username? Any other of the millions of tracking points coincide? Bam, phones are now treated as owned by the same person and received the same travel ads, website recommendations, keystroke auto completes and friend recommendations.

Just because I'm overly paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't watching. 😎.

Cheers. G.

X Man
09-26-19, 17:09
I agree with this report 100%! And I'd like to thank YouTby for the shampoo ads. I've been bald for about 35 years.


Now that's funny. 😄.

The smallest amount of research on Big Data shows that Google, Facebook etc can cross reference so much more than just Contact Lists and usernames that you can restrict permission for.

Phones are in the same house / office many days in a row? Phones catch the same flight at 3 am? Phones are used to log onto any website using the same username? Any other of the millions of tracking points coincide? Bam, phones are now treated as owned by the same person and received the same travel ads, website recommendations, keystroke auto completes and friend recommendations.

Just because I'm overly paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't watching. 😎.

Cheers. G.

ForkTruck
09-27-19, 22:41
As a new paying member of Pina Love I have been paying attention to the number of years the girls have been on that site. Yikes, Many as long as 8 years still asking for serious, marriage minded, nice guy. LOL. Girls should just give up already and just say they want hook ups for fun. That is what those long timers really are looking for or to luckily find sponsers to send them money. They can be silver tongued sirens. The rough average looks like 4 or 5 years. And WTF they are online almost everyday. The thing is many still have the pictures up from many years ago. Beware of appearance and weight gains against actual. Some girls will update one or two pic with head shot only but leave her old slim pretty ones for bait. I used the free side for a long time but got tired of the 10 minute delay for texts. Lots of girls < 10% will put their phne number in the write up blurb so they can be contacted without paying for membership.

GDreams
09-27-19, 22:50
As a new paying member of Pina Love I have been paying attention to the number of years the girls have been on that site. Yikes, Many as long as 8 years still asking for serious, marriage minded, nice guy. LOL. Girls should just give up already and just say they want hook ups for fun. That is what those long timers really are looking for or to luckily find sponsers to send them money. They can be silver tongued sirens. The rough average looks like 4 or 5 years. And WTF they are online almost everyday. The thing is many still have the pictures up from many years ago. Beware of appearance and weight gains against actual. Some girls will update one or two pic with head shot only but leave her old slim pretty ones for bait. I used the free side for a long time but got tired of the 10 minute delay for texts. Lots of girls < 10% will put their phne number in the write up blurb so they can be contacted without paying for membership.I don't look at any girls who could be on for 8 years without being [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) to start with. Not that you can't find decent older girls just becomes too many to look at.

Mr Enternational
09-27-19, 22:57
As a new paying member of Pina Love I have been paying attention to the number of years the girls have been on that site. Yikes, Many as long as 8 years still asking for serious, marriage minded, nice guy. LOL. Girls should just give up already and just say they want hook ups for fun. The rough average looks like 4 or 5 years. And WTF they are online almost everyday. The thing is many still have the pictures up from many years ago. Beware of appearance and weight gains against actual.Dude you just described me and almost every dating site that I am on. I have been on Latin American Cupid for 14 years, Tagged for 10 years. Recently I went out with a chick from Thai Friendly. She asked how long I had been on the site. I said about a week. She said your profile says you have been on since 2009! I literally have not looked at that profile since I made it. And I am about 30 pounds heavier than when I made it.

Goferring
09-27-19, 23:53
As a new paying member of Pina Love I have been paying attention to the number of years the girls have been on that site. Also look at the usernames: suzy19 and she's now 25 years old?? Photos with 2012 date stamps?? Selfie backgrounds that were demolished or built out 5 years ago??

That's why I always cross reference against WA profile pics that generally get changed out and updated all the time.

ID agree that paid memberships are better (being in country when making contact is even better still) but for those who must precontact using the free version I did do a post on doing so effectively. Quickly building up 100 numbers for future use isn't that hard:


After reading a few posts like those above about the sites becoming less productive to unpaid members and the applicable access restrictions becoming a PITA I decided to have a look for myself.
.........

Enjoy. G.Enjoy. G.

Kabul Guy
09-28-19, 03:16
Also look at the usernames: suzy19 and she's now 25 years old?? Photos with 2012 date stamps?? Selfie backgrounds that were demolished or built out 5 years ago??

.....Simple matter to close an account and open a new one, but they never think of that.

PilotPaul
09-28-19, 11:55
Also look at the usernames: suzy19 and she's now 25 years old?? Photos with 2012 date stamps?? Selfie backgrounds that were demolished or built out 5 years ago??.Or age listed as 19, and been a member for 4 years.

PilotPaul
10-01-19, 03:51
A newbie contact has been working up the "sick baby" routine over the past few days.

Yesterday pic was a collection of meds, disease busting paracetamol and dimetapp. Funny.

Today she sends this pic as she just arrived at the hospital carry her baby but surprise surprise needs money for admission. Pretty obviously an old pic due to picture quality.

A quick google image reverse lookup finds the original including date stamp.

So tired of the non-creative scams.

Contact was via friend-of-friend on my fake facebook profile.

PP.

Mango King
10-02-19, 02:27
A few years back I developed a regular who had all the physical attributes I needed. Great body, decent face and a soft voice. I typically gave her 2 k for "taxi" each time. Occasionally when I was back home she would ask for a 1-3 k for emergencies. During one such period she had the full-on heart-break story. Apartment burned down, she and her family was living in shelter, etc etc. She asked for like 3 k and I didn't think twice and sent it to her. Then a few days later another request and so on. I probably sent her a total of $300 US over a week or two as the stories gradually escalated. Finally I had enough and said no more. A few days later she comes back to me saying she just needs 5 k because she got a contract job in Singapore as a DH and needs to buy a suitcase and some clothes and pay some contract fees. I told her I didn't believe her and she says she has plane ticket. I said great send me a copy. So she sends me a boarding pass that is for Singapore Airlines First Class from LHR to SIN with the name blurred out. Obviously she found the image online or some friend gave it to her.

When I asked her why someone would buy her a $10 k ticket to fly via LHR to SIN for a DH job that pays almost nothing she said that's the ticket the contract agency sent her. I blocked her and moved on. I am much wiser today than back then but it's a story worth remembering for those who have big hearts and not a lot of experience in this area.

Goferring
10-02-19, 04:36
..... Finally I had enough and said no more. A few days later she comes back to me saying she just needs 5 k because she got a contract job in Singapore as a DH and needs to buy a suitcase and some clothes and pay some contract fees. ......


A newbie contact has been working up the "sick baby" routine over the past few days.....One of the main reasons I only make contact when I'm in country and looking to meet today or tomorrow. There is less time for grandma to fall sick or uncle's buffalo to go lame.

Enjoy. G.

BrainDrain
10-02-19, 13:57
One of the main reasons I only make contact when I'm in country and looking to meet today or tomorrow. There is less time for grandma to fall sick or uncle's buffalo to go lame.
One of the reasons I kill off my Philippines persona every year or so. It's possible to build up too may followers.

D Cups
10-02-19, 14:08
Hi guys,

Some of the recent posts about about scammers triggered this addition. In case you already did not know if a girl sends you pics of herself in a hospital with a needle in her arm it is likely a scam. Some say they have dengue, a mosquito borne infection, and need a blood transfusion. I recently confronted such a scammer with pics like this asking for money who I met on FC. I asked her to send me a copy of the doctor-signed diagnosis on hospital letterhead and never heard from her again. It is common scam in several third-world countries.

Sammon
10-02-19, 15:02
Hi guys,

Some of the recent posts about about scammers triggered this addition. In case you already did not know if a girl sends you pics of herself in a hospital with a needle in her arm it is likely a scam. Some say they have dengue, a mosquito borne infection, and need a blood transfusion. I recently confronted such a scammer with pics like this asking for money who I met on FC. I asked her to send me a copy of the doctor-signed diagnosis on hospital letterhead and never heard from her again. It is common scam in several third-world countries.The mistakes we make is our mindset. When we make girlfriends in other countries we think we are dating girls in our own country. Dating girls in our own country usually does not translate in giving cash.

In other countries the pressure on life is enormous for them. Especially in Philippines I always had demands for money the moment I make ones GF. In beginning I am guilty of helping. But now I have wised up. Having said that I have helped girls to get education. That is my own decision.

Right now my usual excuse has been my bank has forbidden and blacklisted me sending money overseas. Do not know how much they believe it but I am sticking to it.

Goferring
10-02-19, 15:05
One of the reasons I kill off my Philippines persona every year or so. It's possible to build up too may followers.I've got several repeaters that I'm happy to see and be generous to when I'm back in country. However, they all know that calls or messages to me when I'm back home will be ignored and go unanswered.

G.

Mr Enternational
10-02-19, 18:05
Right now my usual excuse has been my bank has forbidden and blacklisted me sending money overseas. Do not know how much they believe it but I am sticking to it.Why make excuses? Just let no be no. If a chick asks me for money I tell them I have my own bills to pay. I don't go to work to pay the bills that Mary Jane Rottencrotch has made for herself.

That whole thing of sending money to chicks has always been way over my head. Don't we raise our kids to grow up and take care of themselves? So why take care of some grown ass person living on the other side of the world that you hardly see? I work to have money to spend on myself; I don't get my ass out the bed at 3:30am some days and work all night some days to have money for someone else to spend on themselves.

And it is not just us guys sending it to females. Gay guys from western countries do the same shit for the guys they see in all the countries that we go monger in. So it is more of a give me some of what you have since you have more than me thing.

I have a nurse chick in Colombia. At first she didn't ask me for money, then she said she was behind on a bill and I said no. After that she said she had to pay something for her son's school and I said no. Two months ago she had surgery on her wrist and needed some medicine and I said no. Two days ago she was robbed when she went to get her salary out of the ATM. This time she didn't even ask, because she already knows the answer would be NO. And no many how many times I tell her no, she just will not die, or get sick, or get put out of the house, or get her cell phone reposesed, or no other shit that could happen to a chick because she did not receive money from you.

Goferring
10-02-19, 23:08
That whole thing of sending money to chicks has always been way over my head. Don't we raise our kids to grow up and take care of themselves? I've never understood what problems guys are trying to solve with these cash payments from the other side of the world:

Reserve a position in line upon return? Become a higher priority customer? Guarantee a GFE or PSE? These are all going to be available when the monger arrives in country and is there, cash in hand, standing in front of the girl. No security deposit or prepayment is required:

Keep Annalyn out of the bar? Save her from an unjust world? Heal incredibly illness prone family members? Ain't going to happen. They are complete fabrications and the monger is never going to receive what he thinks he is paying for.

The only exception I have seen is where guys are very frequent / resident visitors and direct pay utility bills / school fees etc. They know that what they are paying for is legit and often receive discounted and ongoing services as the repayment plan.

Enjoy. G.

WestCoast1
10-03-19, 02:01
Test post, test post.

Engine Driver
10-03-19, 05:39
When I asked her why someone would buy her a $10 k ticket to fly via LHR to SIN for a DH job that pays almost nothing she said that's the ticket the contract agency sent her. I blocked her and moved on. I am much wiser today than back then but it's a story worth remembering for those who have big hearts and not a lot of experience in this area.That is too funny. These girls are so stupid, that it's all quite amusing to watch. A maids' salary in Singapore is SGD $600 per month. So the airfare is more than a year's salary. I can just imagine a rich Chinese Madam bringing out the cheap Filipina maid from London on first class. ROFL.

PedroMorales
10-03-19, 08:50
Why make excuses? Just let no be no. If a chick asks me for money I tell them I have my own bills to pay. I don't go to work to pay the bills that Mary Jane Rottencrotch has made for herself..You should be kinder to these lovely women and you yourself. A box of chocolates, some mallings, Western Union, some gold, soft words, light touches, Jolibee, a little Red Horse. Sometimes I think only we Europeans are civilised. We know the delicate look, the romance of silence, the value of women.

Is Rottencrotch a common name in the Philippines?

GoodEnough
10-03-19, 23:50
I've never understood what problems guys are trying to solve with these cash payments from the other side of the world:

Reserve a position in line upon return? Become a higher priority customer? Guarantee a GFE or PSE? These are all going to be available when the monger arrives in country and is there, cash in hand, standing in front of the girl. No security deposit or prepayment is required:

Keep Annalyn out of the bar? Save her from an unjust world? Heal incredibly illness prone family members? Ain't going to happen. They are complete fabrications and the monger is never going to receive what he thinks he is paying for.

The only exception I have seen is where guys are very frequent / resident visitors and direct pay utility bills / school fees etc. They know that what they are paying for is legit and often receive discounted and ongoing services as the repayment plan. As likely many others here, Ive met (and bedded) women whose boyfriends have never been here and who are never likely to come. Many of the men seem to find some sort of emotional comfort in thinking they have a girlfriend. The weirdness quotient speaks more to the emotional neediness of the men than to the greed of the women I think.

Enjoy. G.Like others, I've often pondered the 'Why do they do it" question and have no firm answer. However, I think it speaks to some deep-seated emotional need on the part of the foreign guys, most of whom likely have no woman who "loves" them back home. I’ve come to think that these guys are trying to solve their own problems; that the sending of money and the erroneous belief that this engenders some sort of fidelity and caring speaks more to their emotional needs than it does to intrinsic greed on the part of the women. Probably as with many others here, I’ve met (and bedded) women whose “boyfriends” have never set foot in this country and likely never will, but who seem to fill some sort of emotional void by speaking with the women daily.

Goferring
10-04-19, 00:02
, but who seem to fill some sort of emotional void by speaking with the women daily.Yep. I think the term 'Sugar Daddy' is very apt. It's an indication of many guys' driver and can be more of a mental state than occupation: providing sweetness and sustenance to a defenseless and innocent young girl. Most of us know this couldn't be further from the truth.

Cheers. G.

Mr Enternational
10-04-19, 00:37
the sending of money and the erroneous belief that this engenders some sort of fidelity and caring speaks more to their emotional needs than it does to intrinsic greed on the part of the womenWell GE, I have reported before of women telling me they do not ask some men for anything, but they insist on sending them money and buying them shit.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh72diI721W117M1J2

Engine Driver
10-04-19, 00:52
Like others, I've often pondered the 'Why do they do it" question and have no firm answer. However, I think it speaks to some deep-seated emotional need on the part of the foreign guys, most of whom likely have no woman who "loves" them back home. Ive come to think that these guys are trying to solve their own problems; that the sending of money and the erroneous belief that this engenders some sort of fidelity and caring speaks more to their emotional needs than it does to intrinsic greed on the part of the women. Probably as with many others here, Ive met (and bedded) women whose boyfriends have never set foot in this country and likely never will, but who seem to fill some sort of emotional void by speaking with the women daily.There's also the amusement value and light entertainment in seeing where all this might lead. The concept of giving money to damsels in distress is new and exciting for many mongers. Besides, for many mongers, the money involved is chicken shit, so it doesn't matter. It's not always related to loneliness back at home. There's plenty of women who love me here. Honest. LOL.

The Urban Dictionary defines damsel in distress as “a usually beautiful, virginal, virtuous, and hopelessly passive young woman constantly in need of rescue by the dashing hero”. Sums it up perfectly

Pwrmnd
10-13-19, 15:54
Online dating here still feels like digging through a huge pile of sh $t for a diamond. It's very time consuming. I think I'm getting a little better, though, at identifying the problems earlier and improving my list of "best practices. " The goal is not to maximize every opportunity, but to decrease the time spent per happy encounter.

First, there are the virgins, or wannabee virgins. They want to meet you outside, sometimes with a cousin. I always reject the cousin, but I've been willing to meet outside. Those have turned out to be hard to get, though. From talking with others here, I'm coming around to the idea that it's better to just invite them to the hotel right away, or to "stay overnight", and use that as a filter. I'll miss out on a few, but my hit rate will go way up.

Second, there are the scammers and leaches. Obviously, asking for money before meeting earns an immediate block. I will pay taxi on arrival or book a grab though. I'm also thinking that any implication that they will need an allowance is a bad sign. My sample size is only one, but the urgent need for money was never ending. Maybe a good test is to ask her the price of something, implying you'll give her the money. But you already know the real price (for example, something like 1000+ taxi for a passport).

Third, there are the flakes. Many say they will meet but then just disappear. Maybe they chickened out, or maybe they have a lot of other bfs lined up. Whatever the reason, they are much quicker to agree to meet than to actually meet.

Fourth, some turn out to be semi-pros at the last minute. Maybe they just didn't want to admit it up front. It's not bad to have a list of back-up plan contacts, but they should at least be really hot and, preferably, low mileage.

Other "best practices": They must use whatsapp, must send clear pictures (face and body), and must video chat in advance.

Some of the stories and behaviors are really amusing, at least to me. One complained of how difficult it is being on the edge of bankruptcy, while playing on her 10 k Peso phone. English problems and thinking problems can be a huge hassle. One said "I'm arriving", causing me to run downstairs, when she actually meant "I'm departing. " Another arranged to meet with me at MOA, but then took me on a prolonged game of hide-and-seek. I lost.

Chocha Monger
10-13-19, 19:53
If you want fast fucks, why waste time shifting through the huge pile of shit tailings in search of diamonds online when you can point-and-fuck at the bars?


Online dating here still feels like digging through a huge pile of sh $t for a diamond. It's very time consuming. I think I'm getting a little better, though, at identifying the problems earlier and improving my list of "best practices. " The goal is not to maximize every opportunity, but to decrease the time spent per happy encounter.

First, there are the virgins, or wannabee virgins. They want to meet you outside, sometimes with a cousin. I always reject the cousin, but I've been willing to meet outside. Those have turned out to be hard to get, though. From talking with others here, I'm coming around to the idea that it's better to just invite them to the hotel right away, or to "stay overnight", and use that as a filter. I'll miss out on a few, but my hit rate will go way up.

Second, there are the scammers and leaches. Obviously, asking for money before meeting earns an immediate block. I will pay taxi on arrival or book a grab though. I'm also thinking that any implication that they will need an allowance is a bad sign. My sample size is only one, but the urgent need for money was never ending. Maybe a good test is to ask her the price of something, implying you'll give her the money. But you already know the real price (for example, something like 1000+ taxi for a passport)..

Goferring
10-13-19, 22:03
..... From talking with others here, I'm coming around to the idea that it's better to just invite them to the hotel right away, or to "stay overnight", and use that as a filter. I'll miss out on a few, but my hit rate will go way up.
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Another arranged to meet with me at MOA, but then took me on a prolonged game of hide-and-seek. I lost.Good information. Just to expand on a couple of your points:

I've given up on making contact ahead of time. Now I don't even message a girl unless I'm in town and ready to meet her today or tomorrow. This gives a much greater success rate as they know I am serious and cuts down on the BS as there is less time for distractions and calamities requiring my urgent financial help.

I'd also caution anyone on putting any effort into meeting a girl or diverting plans in any way. It's a certainty she will be hours late and give you misinformation about her location and how far away she is. Just tell her to call when she has arrived at a nearby location, get on with what you are doing and only go down to meet her when and if she arrives. Stories abound of guys sitting waiting in their hotel rooms for hours, messaging her repeatedly to confirm if she is on the way and her location, only to have wasted half a day when she doesn't show.

Enjoy. G.

PilotPaul
10-13-19, 23:34
I'd also caution anyone on putting any effort into meeting a girl or diverting plans in any way. It's a certainty she will be hours late and give you misinformation about her location and how far away she is. Just tell her to call when she has arrived at a nearby location, get on with what you are doing and only go down to meet her when and if she arrives. Stories abound of guys sitting waiting in their hotel rooms for hours, messaging her repeatedly to confirm if she is on the way and her location, only to have wasted half a day when she doesn't show.

Enjoy. G.This is excellent information. Focus on doing what you enjoy, going about your business, working online etc etc. The girls are unreliable.

PP.

Goferring
10-14-19, 01:09
If you want fast fucks, why waste time shifting through the huge pile of shit tailings in search of diamonds online when you can point-and-fuck at the bars?In an ideal world you would be right but I think we've reached a tipping point where the quantity and quality of bar girls has been over taken by those online. Also good luck finding a bar girl to solve morning wood at 10 am. LOL.

Sammon
10-14-19, 02:04
Good information. Just to expand on a couple of your points:

I've given up on making contact ahead of time. Now I don't even message a girl unless I'm in town and ready to meet her today or tomorrow. This gives a much greater success rate as they know I am serious and cuts down on the BS as there is less time for distractions and calamities requiring my urgent financial help.

I'd also caution anyone on putting any effort into meeting a girl or diverting plans in any way. It's a certainty she will be hours late and give you misinformation about her location and how far away she is. Just tell her to call when she has arrived at a nearby location, get on with what you are doing and only go down to meet her when and if she arrives. Stories abound of guys sitting waiting in their hotel rooms for hours, messaging her repeatedly to confirm if she is on the way and her location, only to have wasted half a day when she doesn't show.

Enjoy. G.Well, getting a online girl takes effort and patience. Not all are interested to fuck a short time foreigner visitor. Those who are ready to come to your room on a moments notice are looking for quick money and there will not be any bonding. Sex is wham boom.

I have found plenty of gems over the years. Trust is established after chatting many times. I always give them money even if they do not demand it.

I have learned to give them a slack with regard to timings, last minute family issues etc. Many of them just go to school or work and go home. They are not used to going around by themselves. So they do not know how long it takes from point to point. Many of them are really scared to be in the room. So pre meeting chat helps. I discuss everything and they get friendly enough to trust.

Those who meet foreigners for money cannot be trusted. They will make plans but maybe get better offers and will not show up giving one reason or another.

Bargirls of yesteryears were very good. Not anymore.

PilotPaul
10-14-19, 04:05
Online dating here still feels like digging through a huge pile of sh $t for a diamond. It's very time consuming. I think I'm getting a little better, though, at identifying the problems earlier and improving my list of "best practices. " The goal is not to maximize every opportunity, but to decrease the time spent per happy encounter.Pwrmnd writes good tips for online dating chat. He has a set of predefined rules which f the Filipina breeches one of the rules, then he moves on.

The big difference compared to traditional real life chatting is that online has virtually unlimited potential. We can cut of a diamond because of our inexperience or rush to score and not know it, but then you have many more potentials in the pipeline.

I recall reading somewhere where the online game gives punters the opportunity to hone their skills. Crash and burn earlier and learn the lessons. As they say now, "Fail fast, fail early".

That being said, the really good scores, the really great Filipina will have their own expectations for their successful foreigners:

Guys need not talking about sex too early, not totally ignoring it, and able to talk about more than that.

Having some social skills and a job and some ongoing opportunity.

Take video calls an unexpected times (IS he actually married to another Filipina?

Why do we care about these? Because when they test those points, we know they are a good catch. The Filipina that just arrives without grilling "her" catch we know she's a pro.

So when you see the above come from a Filipina, consider and test your own responses.

It's a game.

PP.

Goferring
10-14-19, 07:07
Well, getting a online girl takes effort and patience. Not all are interested to fuck a short time foreigner visitor. Those who are ready to come to your room on a moments notice are looking for quick money and there will not be any bonding. Sex is wham boom.

I have found plenty of gems over the years. Trust is established after chatting many times. I always give them money even if they do not demand it.

I have learned to give them a slack with regard to timings, last minute family issues etc. Many of them just go to school or work and go home. They are not used to going around by themselves. So they do not know how long it takes from point to point. Many of them are really scared to be in the room. So pre meeting chat helps. I discuss everything and they get friendly enough to trust.

Those who meet foreigners for money cannot be trusted. They will make plans but maybe get better offers and will not show up giving one reason or another.

Bargirls of yesteryears were very good. Not anymore.Sammon, while it looks like we operate at different ends of the market (I am generally looking for a girl to drop around at short notice and while a connection is good, I'm not interested in ongoing romance), I agree with most of what you have said except:

Not all hookups without notice are 'wham boom'. I too have come across many girls who have provided great sessions and who I have seen again within the same trip or even several following trips. However, in my case both parties understand it's just compensated fun and that it won't progress beyond that.

I didn't mean that all delays were intentional or malicious. Just as there are some who lie about having left when they are still in the house, yes there are some who are simply stuck in traffic, at work or any other of the 1000 things that a westerner doesn't consider. Regardless it makes little sense to sit around waiting potentially hours while she is battling her way through these. Much better to get on with your day and meet when she does actually show up.

I think the vast majority are in fact meeting us for monetary reasons or at least a chance to better their lives. For me to believe otherwise would be naive. With all girls I take the most basic precautions to protect my time and belongings regardless of how we met. Having said that, the times that I have actually been caught out is very small indeed. It's certainly not something that I worry too much about.

Don't get me started on the good old days. LOL.

Cheers. G.

Engine Driver
10-14-19, 11:14
If you want fast fucks, why waste time shifting through the huge pile of shit tailings in search of diamonds online when you can point-and-fuck at the bars?Some mongers, after paying thousands for airfares and accommodation, and then sitting in that aluminium tube for 20 hours, will try to economise when they hit the ground. They figure they only need to pay 1,500 pesos for an on-line hooker, or better still, if they "have game", they can bang them for free. This compares to 3,500 pesos for a point-and-fuck deal at the bars. Their inordinate amount of time spent in fossicking for tiny specks of gold dust has no value.

If you are in AC, there is absolutely no point in going on line.

Wicked Roger
10-14-19, 12:40
Some mongers, after paying thousands for airfares and accommodation, and then sitting in that aluminium tube for 20 hours, will try to economise when they hit the ground. They figure they only need to pay 1,500 pesos for an on-line hooker, or better still, if they "have game", they can bang them for free. This compares to 3,500 pesos for a point-and-fuck deal at the bars. T.The difference is around $40 which is crazy stupid IMHO as where they have come from $40 gets you a few minutes LOL.

I have said before there are so many cheap guys who think it is great and powerful to not tip a trike driver 20 pesos or a waiter / waitresses 100 pesos (and boast of it).

What is the point? And why be so cheap after spending so much cash to get there and the hotel?

But we are all different I know LOL.

Goferring
10-14-19, 13:29
Some mongers, after paying thousands for airfares and accommodation, and then sitting in that aluminium tube for 20 hours, will try to economise when they hit the ground. They figure they only need to pay 1,500 pesos for an on-line hooker, or better still, if they "have game", they can bang them for free. This compares to 3,500 pesos for a point-and-fuck deal at the bars. Their inordinate amount of time spent in fossicking for tiny specks of gold dust has no value.

If you are in AC, there is absolutely no point in going on line.I'll resume my position as resident online fan-boy. 😁.

Since when is roaming from bar to bar to bar point and fuck? I'm pretty easy to please but it often takes me several stops over half a night to find someone worth barfining. After 10 pm, in a major city, it generally takes me 30 minutes to have someone in a taxi heading to my place. In the afternoon I can still jump online when most bars are closed.

Once found, the AC bar fine is prepaid so the girl essentially has no incentive to go the extra mile. We've had numerous posts about shoddy performances with no recourse. My last couple of visits lend support to these posts. Contrast that to a post paid PL hook up where she has every incentive to keep me happy.

Personally, I have a strong preference for an overnight LT. As above, I have had numerous bar girls suddenly need to be on a early morning bus and do a one shot runner. Yet she still expects full payment / tip!! In contrast, every online girl has handled any morning wood and stayed until I want to kick them out.

Financially, it's a wash. 3 to 3. 5 k bar fine vs 3 k online LT. Add in some drinks and maybe some clubbing (and the airfare, hotel etc sunk costs) and I'd agree it's a trivial part of the night's entertainment.

Enjoy. G.

Chocha Monger
10-15-19, 03:00
Once found, the AC bar fine is prepaid so the girl essentially has no incentive to go the extra mile. We've had numerous posts about shoddy performances with no recourse. My last couple of visits lend support to these posts. Contrast that to a post paid PL hook up where she has every incentive to keep me happy.

Personally, I have a strong preference for an overnight LT. As above, I have had numerous bar girls suddenly need to be on a early morning bus and do a one shot runner. Yet she still expects full payment / tip!! In contrast, every online girl has handled any morning wood and stayed until I want to kick them out.Well, you cannot blame bar girls for running after one fuck from a bashed crab. LOL! The Pina Love girls are willing to play the long game hoping the bashed crab will fall in love and start sending money upon his return home. On the other hand, the bar girl wants to be long gone before the Night Train derails.

Datiao
10-15-19, 04:59
I'll resume my position as resident online fan-boy. 😁.

Since when is roaming from bar to bar to bar point and fuck? I'm pretty easy to please but it often takes me several stops over half a night to find someone worth barfining. After 10 pm, in a major city, it generally takes me 30 minutes to have someone in a taxi heading to my place. In the afternoon I can still jump online when most bars are closed.

Once found, the AC bar fine is prepaid so the girl essentially has no incentive to go the extra mile. We've had numerous posts about shoddy performances with no recourse. My last couple of visits lend support to these posts. Contrast that to a post paid PL hook up where she has every incentive to keep me happy.

Personally, I have a strong preference for an overnight LT. As above, I have had numerous bar girls suddenly need to be on a early morning bus and do a one shot runner. Yet she still expects full payment / tip!!

Enjoy. G.That unfortunately is the case now for barfines.

Last month I barfined 2 from different bars. First Viking girl.

Wanted supper at korean restaurant before goung ti hotel.

After one shot wore pyjamas and slept. Refused a 2nd shot in the morning and have the cheek to ask for transport fares. Frankly speaking I was ready to give a 500 p tip if there was a 2nd shot as the 1st was good.

2nd girl barfined from F1 perimeter agreed 2-10 pm infront of manager.

After Jollibee meal back hotel and after 1 shot said need to leave for Manila, I told her she could go after a 2nd shot and she complied leaving at 7 pm.

Then got an online girl for 1500 p ST and was good.

Too much bullshit from the bars, I m going online from now on and hope more mongers do that till it affects the businesses. Dating sites do have its cons like actual look different from pics n no turn up, so some effort needed.

The price increase of hotels and food from 2 years ago at about 20%. Value of AC deteriorating fast.

Cebu Pac just opened new routes Clark to Guangzhou, Manila to Shenzhen. Wooing the Chinese?

Engine Driver
10-15-19, 06:24
Cebu Pac just opened new routes Clark to Guangzhou, Manila to Shenzhen. Wooing the Chinese?Yes correct. There are so many millionaires in China that they need to target them. The Chinese women get dropped off at Greenbelt so that they can clean out the Hermès, Chanel and LV stores. Meanwhile, the men go to AC to drink, gamble and fuck. Seems like a pretty good deal.

Get set for the Indian invasion too to Manila as this article shows. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/philippines-india-aviation-pal-to-delhi-inbound-tourism-grows-445347.

I might need to learn Spanish and go to South America to monger soon. LOL. Has anyone encountered any Chinese, Korean or Indian mongers in Columbia or Venezuela?

Dadaner
10-15-19, 06:42
Yes correct. There are so many millionaires in China that they need to target them. The Chinese women get dropped off at Greenbelt so that they can clean out the Herms, Chanel and LV stores. Meanwhile, the men go to AC to drink, gamble and fuck. Seems like a pretty good deal.

Get set for the Indian invasion too to Manila as this article shows. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/philippines-india-aviation-pal-to-delhi-inbound-tourism-grows-445347.

I might need to learn Spanish and go to South America to monger soon. LOL. Has anyone encountered any Chinese, Korean or Indian mongers in Columbia or Venezuela?Haha, as I know, Chinese women don't like greenbelt now, they are in BGC.

Sound7
10-15-19, 09:12
Chinese, Korean and Indian are in South America.

Money leanders and foreign investment?


Get set for the Indian invasion too to Manila as this article
I might need to learn Spanish and go to South America to monger soon. LOL. Has anyone encountered any Chinese, Korean or Indian mongers in Columbia or Venezuela?

PedroMorales
10-15-19, 09:54
I was ready to give a 500 p tip if there was a 2nd shot as the 1st was good. Then got an online girl for 1500 p ST and was good. The price increase of hotels and food from 2 years ago at about 20%. Value of AC deteriorating fast. Cebu Pac just opened new routes Clark to Guangzhou, Manila to Shenzhen. Wooing the Chinese?I find the bar women are weak at giving excuses. They just want to go. The Chinese will be a hoot when they Jackie Chan with the Koreans. I have just scored another cheap home lay. Here is my ¿question?

What would the price differential have to drop to between your home country and the Philippines to stop you travelling? Though I'm a kinda crude buffet guy, like everyone else here, I have a perfect figure, 6 pack, abs etc and can score Hollywood MeToos at the click of a mouse. I like to go to the Philippines so I can put my penis into the orifices of poor women. If I could do it safer and cheaper elsewhere I would, even if it meant foregoing the duck eggs and Château Lafite-Rothschilds in a mug for breakfast. How about you? How cheap has cheap to be?

NewImage
10-15-19, 11:24
I'll resume my position as resident online fan-boy. 😁.
Enjoy. G.When you invest do you put all your eggs in one basket? But also, do you look for the investment with the best guaranteed return? To me the mongering scene is getting more like a roulette spin. Going back to a bar and complaining about the quality of the session is met with BS these days. To me its all about me controlling the session as much as possible and controlling my investment. Service providers are usually motivated by money or the promise of more money. Once the fee is paid what incentive is there to give top performance or honour the agreed upon conditions? Agree with many who say FL and online is the way to go. Yes it may require more work but so does going from bar to bar wading through the BS and promises and the prepaid chance of striking a dud. I will spread my net wide, choose wisely and control both the money and performance as much as I can. You may call it overthinking or taking the fun out of punting. I call it being smart because in places like Angeles, Pattaya and the like more so the proverb " A fool and his money" is applicable.

BYVMD.

Datiao
10-15-19, 19:59
I find the bar women are weak at giving excuses. They just want to go. The Chinese will be a hoot when they Jackie Chan with the Koreans. I have just scored another cheap home lay. Here is my question?

What would the price differential have to drop to between your home country and the Philippines to stop you travelling? I like to go to the Philippines so I can put my penis into the orifices of poor women. If I could do it safer and cheaper elsewhere I would, even if it meant foregoing the duck eggs and Chteau Lafite-Rothschilds in a mug for breakfast. How about you? How cheap has cheap to be?It's not a good idea to compare philipines prices w back home and I never do.

I compare with what's available in other SEA markets.

The price of a Classic hotel girl in Jakarta Indonesia is 365 k rupiah + 50 k tip is about 1500 p an online ST in AC.

Jakarta I would say have better looking girls, nicer bodies and performance comparable to philipines.

You get 1 hour max for 1 shot in a nice hotel room.

And if you get from AC bars, ST is at least 2000-2500 p.

Foodwise I would say Jakarta has tastier and cheaper local food, hotelwise about the same.

And w the AC bar's bullshit, Jakarta definitely a better choice for me.

NewImage
10-15-19, 22:39
I find the bar women are weak at giving excuses. They just want to go. The Chinese will be a hoot when they Jackie Chan with the Koreans. I have just scored another cheap home lay. Here is my question?
What would the price differential have to drop to between your home country and the Philippines to stop you travelling? I like to go to the Philippines so I can put my penis into the orifices of poor women. If I could do it safer and cheaper elsewhere I would, even if it meant foregoing the duck eggs and Chteau Lafite-Rothschilds in a mug for breakfast. How about you? How cheap has cheap to be?This is what I have been weighing up recently. With the South sea peso being so poor one really has to consider where is good VFM. I can't get what I get in the Phil's in my home town in Aust so prob the comparison is not fair. In saying that to fly half way around the world from downunder and get crap service just obviously pisses me off. What I do is add airfare (and I fly business now) to hotel accom to liv expenses and mongering expenses and come up with a daily rate. For a 3 wk trip airfare + accom + living exp (food & etc) usually comes to at least 5 k AD. Put on top of that mongering exp and it gets up there. Now you could say fly economy, stay at cheaper accom etc but holidays are to enjoy not stress. I really am tossing up what I get at home vs what I can get OS and the money factor.

To give you an idea a simple massage + hand job in my home town is around $80 -$100 AD. Thats about 3,500 peso. Don't even ask about FS and don't even ask about enthusiasm and consistency of service.

Goferring
10-15-19, 23:46
This is what I have been weighing up recently. With the South sea peso being so poor one really has to consider where is good VFM. I can't get what I get in the Phil's in my home town in Aust so prob the comparison is not fair. In saying that to fly half way around the world from downunder and get crap service just obviously pisses me off. What I do is add airfare (and I fly business now) to hotel accom to liv expenses and mongering expenses and come up with a daily rate. For a 3 wk trip airfare + accom + living exp (food & etc) usually comes to at least 5 k AD. Put on top of that mongering exp and it gets up there. Now you could say fly economy, stay at cheaper accom etc but holidays are to enjoy not stress. I really am tossing up what I get at home vs what I can get OS and the money factor.

To give you an idea a simple massage + hand job in my home town is around $80 -$100 AD. Thats about 3,500 peso. Don't even ask about FS and don't even ask about enthusiasm and consistency of service.I always spend more on the non mongering activities than girls for a multi week trip. So for me to calculate dollars per smile, cost of cover story, hotels, flights and food are much more important than LT rates. Eg when traveling together in PI, it often costs me more to feed a girl than to fuck her.

Just for comparison I did sit down and compare stay at home vs PI / LOS vs far away but cheaper (Colombia or Mada). SEA came out ahead as the best compromise of mongering and non mongering costs. I would have to stay at the cheaper places many months to recoup the extra flight etc costs.

Of course, it's not all about dollars and it helps that LBFMs do tend to press the right buttons for me.

A strong arguement could be made for, once in country, the provinces represent better value on all fronts than the major cities. Cheaper, friendlier, less stress and few white faces mean that I'm even better looking and my jokes are even funnier. 😁 👍.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
10-16-19, 04:32
Eg when traveling together in PI, it often costs me more to feed a girl than to fuck her.
. G.What do you feed your hookers? Caviar, oysters and bottles of Château Lafite Rothschild?

WestCoast1
10-16-19, 05:36
Eg when traveling together in PI, it often costs me more to feed a girl than to fuck her.Concur, especially in the province. One of my fav provincial hotties (posted many times in the PG) will cost more in food in a 24-hour period than her 24-hour rate (which she's been happy with for 5+ years). This is just the normal eating every 2-3 hours, and includes convenience store junk foods, but does not include 'going around' in the evening (going bar hopping just adds more to the total).


What do you feed your hookers? Caviar, oysters and bottles of Chteau Lafite Rothschild?The girl above prefers Jollibee. Chickenjoy meals -- two-piece and extra rice please! Add in 2 bags of Nova potato chips and more coke daily (hard to believe she's 85 lbs). Can't get her to enjoy a sit-down restaurant (and that would cost even more).

Its not enough to buy a hot sports car, you got to fill it with quality petrol (in the case above, that would be carbohydrates from all the rice / spaghetti to power that poon).

Goferring
10-16-19, 06:09
What do you feed your hookers? Caviar, oysters and bottles of Chteau Lafite Rothschild?Real world example:

10 k per week for her. That works out to about 1500 per day.

I'm not paying a hooker to go where she wants to go. We go where I want to go and eat where I want to eat. For me that's generally 3 or 4 star hotel breakfasts or similar restaurants and a couple of western eateries per day in a tourist location. There may also be some drinks and snacks through out the day or munchies to throw in the room fridge. Not luxurious but not pagpag in a bedspacer either.

These can easily add up to 1500 per day.

Engine Driver
10-16-19, 07:06
Haha, as I know, Chinese women don't like greenbelt now, they are in BGC.Well okay, they do love taking selfies at that knock off Venetian canal LOL. But there's no Hermès or LV boutique at BGC. So where would those communists put their cell phones?

Sxxxx
10-16-19, 15:32
Real world example:

10 k per week for her. That works out to about 1500 per day.

I'm not paying a hooker to go where she wants to go. We go where I want to go and eat where I want to eat. For me that's generally 3 or 4 star hotel breakfasts or similar restaurants and a couple of western eateries per day in a tourist location. There may also be some drinks and snacks through out the day or munchies to throw in the room fridge. Not luxurious but not pagpag in a bedspacer either.

These can easily add up to 1500 per day.What happened to 'eating pussy' , for you, and "cream pies" for her?

Save a fortune, and they never do a runner once they have tasted, the favourite right now. 'Rogue Elephant' cream pie.

Goferring
10-16-19, 21:55
What happened to 'eating pussy' , for you, and "cream pies" for her?

Save a fortune, and they never do a runner once they have tasted, the favourite right now. 'Rogue Elephant' cream pie.I like your thinking.

At just 5 calories a serving, keeping the young lady alive for an extended period would be an admirable challenge.

Perhaps we should market CIM as the ultimate weight loss plan.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
10-16-19, 23:06
Last month on the 12th a chick I was messing with in Manila told me that she found a new American man that is a great guy like me and he wants to marry her. I said good luck. Today she hit me up and the first thing I said was are you married yet? She said no, the guy was full of shit. He promised her a bunch of stuff and never even went to the Philippines. He stopped responding to her massages. Same Shit Different Day.

Kabul Guy
10-17-19, 00:19
Started chatting with a girl from Tinder, on her profile she claimed she had no gag reflex.

Chat started out in the normal manner, she had problems, she had no money, she was so broke she was thinking of selling her virginity on line.

I wished her good luck, she responded with a string of crying emoticons.

I state in my profile I have been here 2 years, why do they try to pull this newbie shit all the time?

PilotPaul
10-17-19, 00:31
I state in my profile I have been here 2 years, why do they try to pull this newbie shit all the time?Because it costs nothing to try.

She needs money now, today, not in 2-3 days time after you have vetted her and confirmed she is legit. In her limited set of tactics, once it's obvious she's not making progress one you she might as well just deploy all the ideas and hopefully one of them will trigger your response.

Same goes for you, you can quickly pit her into the bucket that you don't want to touch and freeing yourself up for the others.

Presumably the girls behaviour has been rewarded previously which is why she continues it.

Chocha Monger
10-17-19, 01:59
I like your thinking.

At just 5 calories a serving, keeping the young lady alive for an extended period would be an admirable challenge.

Perhaps we should market CIM as the ultimate weight loss plan.

Enjoy. G.Yes. Just imagine the amount of pesos you can save by feeding your Pinay tarts Rogue Elephant brand cream pies. It is much more sustainable fare than your usual Gillardeau oysters overnighted from La Rochelle and served with 2009 Chateau Lafite Rothschild. I know that you only fuck the Koenigsegg CCXR Trevita of sports-fucking Pinay hookers, and want to fuel them with nothing but the most premium of high-test fuels.

Kazeu
10-17-19, 02:47
It more about tipping in general. Some people don't like the control or the uncertainty. I'm one of those people. I'd much rather you (the waitress / establishment) be upfront about what you want, meaning the price, and what you offer, the product. Then I can come to a conclusion about whether or not I want to take part prior to engaging. I'd rather not guess at how much of a tip makes you happy. I would be happy if angeles raised all prices by 20 percent and outlawed tipping. In fact I'd be happy if that happened all over the world.


The difference is around $40 which is crazy stupid IMHO as where they have come from $40 gets you a few minutes LOL.

I have said before there are so many cheap guys who think it is great and powerful to not tip a trike driver 20 pesos or a waiter / waitresses 100 pesos (and boast of it).

What is the point? And why be so cheap after spending so much cash to get there and the hotel?

But we are all different I know LOL.

Goferring
10-17-19, 05:28
Last month on the 12th a chick I was messing with in Manila told me that she found a new American man that is a great guy like me and he wants to marry her. I said good luck. Today she hit me up and the first thing I said was are you married yet? She said no, the guy was full of shit. He promised her a bunch of stuff and never even went to the Philippines. He stopped responding to her massages. Same Shit Different Day.How many times do I have do say it?

Being There vs Promises pays dividends. The girls have heard the bullshit stories so many times.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
10-17-19, 05:32
I would be happy if angeles raised all prices by 20 percent and outlawed tipping. In fact I'd be happy if that happened all over the world.The problem with AC isn't the cost. It's that its 100% prepaid.

Make it like Sabang or Burgos where the 50% bar fine is paid before leaving and the remainder is paid after good service is provided and the problems will go away overnight.

But good luck with that. 😁.

Cheers. G.

Cbea20
10-17-19, 06:24
Because she doesn't read and understand profiles.

Because she doesn't remember yours in particular.

Because some guys stay dumb forever.


Started chatting with a girl from Tinder, on her profile she claimed she had no gag reflex.

Chat started out in the normal manner, she had problems, she had no money, she was so broke she was thinking of selling her virginity on line.

I wished her good luck, she responded with a string of crying emoticons.

I state in my profile I have been here 2 years, why do they try to pull this newbie shit all the time?

Goferring
10-17-19, 11:24
Started chatting with a girl from Tinder, on her profile.....
.....

I state in my profile.....WTF reads profiles? LOL.

I was abused by a girl yesterday for not reading hers and I told her point blank: "I don't read any profiles because they are all the same and mostly BS. I'm chatting to you now to find what you really want. " She agreed, then we had a good conversation. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
10-17-19, 14:00
WTF reads profiles? LOL.

I was abused by a girl yesterday for not reading hers and I told her point blank: "I don't read any profiles because they are all the same and mostly BS. I'm chatting to you now to find what you really want. " She agreed, then we had a good conversation. That goes for dating sites anywhere. They don't even look at it, nevermind read. The first questions that I usually get are where do I live and how old am I. Come on now; you don't even have to actually "read" the profile to see that info.

And fuck reading the profile, they don't even read the messages. The first thing I say to a chick is hello what are you doing? In various countries and various languages, they almost always answer I am fine and you! It is to the point where I get excited when they answer the question properly and in my mind think I have found a smart chick (or at least one that is not as dumb as a sack of rocks.)

PedroMorales
10-17-19, 15:26
That goes for dating sites anywhere. They don't even look at it, nevermind read. The first questions that I usually get are where do I live and how old am I. Come on now; you don't even have to actually "read" the profile to see that info. And fuck reading the profile, they don't even read the messages. The first thing I say to a chick is hello what are you doing? In various countries and various languages, they almost always answer I am fine and you! It is to the point where I get excited when they answer the question properly and in my mind think I have found a smart chick (or at least one that is not as dumb as a sack of rocks.)You can forget about ever laying eyes on my daughters. You, sir, are a cad, interested in women for only one thing. And guess, what? The women on those sites know that, just as they know the thousands of others hitting them up on the same sites are also sex mad. If you read some of their profiles, you will see they get far too many queries to answer. They have to be selective and go for prize catches like me.

Goferring
10-17-19, 16:55
That goes for dating sites anywhere. They don't even look at it, nevermind read. The first questions that I usually get are where do I live....My success rate is lowest for the girls who view my profile first.

Barely 20% reply vs 80% of those that don't read my profile. Most say it's because they want a LTR only and won't go on to give me their number anyway so it's no great loss.

Asking where they are can be necessary as many put a popular town to draw in punters even if they live elsewhere. Some locations are also very vague: you can live in "Cebu" and be 6 hours from Ayala.

Don't get me started on the IQ required for "Do you have a WA number?" Followed by "Yes. ".

Enjoy. G.

Member #1088
10-17-19, 17:40
One that I think is ready, check the underline profile. She is in PL

Goferring
10-17-19, 23:24
Yes. Just imagine the amount of pesos you can save by feeding your Pinay tarts Rogue Elephant brand cream pies. It is much more sustainable fare than your usual Gillardeau oysters overnighted from La Rochelle and served with 2009 Chateau Lafite Rothschild. I know that you only fuck the Koenigsegg CCXR Trevita of sports-fucking Pinay hookers, and want to fuel them with nothing but the most premium of high-test fuels.Of course we could also introduce the Indonesian naturopathic remedy where deflowering a boy is guaranteed to be good for the girl's skin.

Many a international school boy has gone from innocently standing in line at Mc Donald's to being pack raped at a nearby kos.

Some of us may struggle to pass as schoolboys but it might be worth it. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. I can't remember who first came up with the term but Rogue Elephant is now officially my favourite Board metaphor. Very apt. 👍.

Wicked Roger
10-18-19, 08:03
Some of us may struggle to pass as schoolboys but it might be worth it. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. I can't remember who first came up with the term but Rogue Elephant is now officially my favourite Board metaphor. Very apt.You may like to schoolboys but I doubt you can pass that test anytime anywhere (unless a blind school that allows not touching etc LOL).

Personally I like them dressed as schoolgirls as others on the board do also.

That's is way more interesting IMHO LOL.

Goferring
10-19-19, 12:39
You may like to schoolboys but I doubt you can pass that test anytime anywhere (unless a blind school that allows not touching etc LOL).

Personally I like them dressed as schoolgirls as others on the board do also.

That's is way more interesting IMHO LOL.Old hands can correct my colors for the Philippines but long ago, in another country, it was very common for night club conquests to pull on her school uniform and head to class in the morning.

Given that "school" could last until 24 yo, a grey skirt as perfectly acceptable, a blue one could be cause for concern and a red one induced panic. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

Wicked Roger
10-19-19, 16:33
Old hands can correct my colors for the Philippines but long ago, in another country, it was very common for night club conquests to pull on her school uniform and head to class in the morning.

Given that "school" could last until 24 yo, a grey skirt as perfectly acceptable, a blue one could be cause for concern and a red one induced panic. 😁.

Enjoy. G.I had some buy extra uniforms (I funded it as I am a gentleman and scholar) so they would not mess up the others they had for class. One even shortened the skirt for me LOL Others would pose with the tie between their boobs and not much else.

And yes they would sometime come to my place with a bag in which was the uniform. Try that in the UK or USA etc and you would called a pervert LOL.

Kabul Guy
10-20-19, 04:12
....

And yes they would sometime come to my place with a bag in which was the uniform. Try that in the UK or USA etc and you would called a pervert LOL.On this board being called a pervert is a sign of respect, you pervert LOL.

PilotPaul
10-20-19, 10:46
Given that "school" could last until 24 yo, a grey skirt as perfectly acceptable, a blue one could be cause for concern and a red one induced panic..I've had a recent Filipina in AC that was attending system plus college. She's still wearing a uniform at 31 years of age.

She didn't start college earlier as she was working in Wan Chai HK.

Dg8787
10-20-19, 21:45
I had some buy extra uniforms (I funded it as I am a gentleman and scholar) so they would not mess up the others they had for class. One even shortened the skirt for me LOL Others would pose with the tie between their boobs and not much else.

And yes they would sometime come to my place with a bag in which was the uniform. Try that in the UK or USA etc and you would called a pervert LOL.WR you are a perverted sob. I am trying to figure out how 1) to rent a nice white wedding dress 2) bang the crap out of a nice sweet 19 yo in it without her believing this is for real. The wedding that is.

PilotPaul
10-20-19, 23:11
WR you are a perverted sob. I am trying to figure out how 1) to rent a nice white wedding dress 2) bang the crap out of a nice sweet 19 yo in it without her believing this is for real. The wedding that is.If there is a market for that, then I'm sure there is a Filipino that will do it just for money. Must be lots of forgotten wedding dresses, perhaps the dresses last longer than the sanctity of the Filipina wedding vows.

Speaking of themes:

The Bellagio on Burgos used to have many theme rooms but sadly they seem to be re-modelling the rooms: https://royalbellagio.com/rooms/theme-room/.

Wicked Roger
10-21-19, 04:19
WR you are a perverted sob. I am trying to figure out how 1) to rent a nice white wedding dress 2) bang the crap out of a nice sweet 19 yo in it without her believing this is for real. The wedding that is.Thanks for the complement DG.

Am sure if you said that you are an old pervert and this is one of your buckets list things to do she would agree especially if cash was the reward. That does tens to make any thing we like easier LOL.

Goferring
10-23-19, 12:25
Interesting that I just had my FC account suspended.

I've just returned from a trip to Indonesia where I was accessing this site and a couple of hookup sites, including FC, via a VPN. 2 days after returning home and accessing FC without a VPN, my account was blocked and I was requested to provide proof of accurate profile photo, current location and method of accessing the site (mobile, PC etc). I'm not aware of anyone reporting me so assume that the site's fraud protection kicked in and recognized the difference in my profile location, Manila, and my non VPN protected IP address at home.

Luckily a quick call to their help desk explaining that I had just returned home solved everything and I haven't lost any contacts chats or numbers but it could have been a major PITA.

I've noticed a lot of the sites are now taking photo, age and location verification very seriously. Some are even requiring passport or driver's license details to match these details.

Enjoy. G.

PedroMorales
10-23-19, 13:27
Interesting that I just had my FC account suspended. I've noticed a lot of the sites are now taking photo, age and location verification very seriously. Some are even requiring passport or driver's license details to match these details.Enjoy. G.Is it good a sex site can verify your ID etc?

Goferring
10-23-19, 21:55
Is it good a sex site can verify your ID etc?Depends on who is asking:

For a girl who doesn't know John from Nebraska is really 6 guys looking for a gang bang or another that wastes days chating to a guy thinking he is in town when he's really in mom's basement fishing for nudes, it's good.

For a site owner trying to avoid PR disaster of a girl meeting a psycho on their site then getting molested or worse, its good.

For a monger with nothing to hide, who cares.

For a monger who wants to shield his identity because of marital or job restrictions, its bad.

There are obviously all the normal privacy and fraud concerns over handing over government ID details to an unknown party. I'd suggest the sex sites are probably some of the less secure and trustworthy sites to give this info. There was no way I was sending Cupid copies of my passport or Drivers Licence.

FWIW, Badoo and its cousins also require ID to be submitted to facial recognition software to verify profile pics. I'm guessing they also monitor IP addresses to verify location.

Cheers. G.