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Offshore Swell
11-01-20, 12:01
I rate slimness above beauty, so when a slim girl with a pretty face popped up in the Leyte search, I was immediately on the case. Below is the transcript. Gents, do you think she would have dropped her Victoria's Secret thong panties on the first date? Hahaha. The first date would have been at some evangelical church payer meeting. Serves me right for using "God Fearing" as my vision statement on my profile. Hahahaha. Anyhow, that girl would have been wearing impenetrable, high waisted, grandma knickers. Yikes. No real loss.

I do have about 40 new contacts and it's just Day 2, but I won't be renewing my PL subscription after the first month. Tinder and WeChat are heaps better when on the ground and there is no tedious preparation required. Newbies should save their money.HaHa, that conversation is funny. This kind of thing inspires OS to read the bible. Just in case!

D Cups
11-01-20, 12:57
".Too funny, Westie. Thanks for the chuckle. I go church now diba.

Engine Driver
11-01-20, 23:44
There are 1,000's of Pinays desperately looking for money on the dating apps. Mongers have woken up and instead of blindly sending money for no reason, they are demanding a cam show in exchange. Little do the mongers realize that the Nigerian handlers are recording all such transactions to upload on the dark web or to use as potential black mail material when a particularly large whale is caught. There is also the prospect of bank account phishing, and details being swiped every time GCash is used. Hahahaha. Don't even get me started on the lack of verification of the girls' age. And it's all on video. Explain that to LE. For the meager sum of 1,000 peso (the going rate for a cam show), a monger can buy a one way ticket to Leavenworth or Long Bay. There is no end to monger stupidity.

Goferring
11-02-20, 22:04
Explain that to LE. For the meager sum of 1,000 peso (the going rate for a cam show), a monger can buy a one way ticket to Leavenworth or Long Bay. There is no end to monger stupidity.You would be aware of several banks that have received multi million dollar fines for facilitating money laundering and multiple low value transactions to PI, LOS etc. Not hard to think what those payments were for.

It would not be a pleasant experience to have one's home LE and banking regulator auditing mystery overseas payments to destitute single moms or their daughters.

Please Explain!

Take care. G.

Engine Driver
11-03-20, 06:25
You would be aware of several banks that have received multi million dollar fines for facilitating money laundering and multiple low value transactions to PI, LOS etc. Not hard to think what those payments were for.

It would not be a pleasant experience to have one's home LE and banking regulator auditing mystery overseas payments to destitute single moms or their daughters.

Please Explain!

Take care. G.The second largest bank in my country was recently fined $1. 3 billion by the regulator for breaching Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing Act 2006 (AML / CTF Act). According to the regulator, the bank should have reported the thousands of over-the-counter cash deposits of under $10 k going to the middle east for various nefarious purposes. Furthermore, the bank was supposed to track and report the thousands of small payments going to the Philippines, being sent by mongers. As Gofer has mentioned, you can guess what all these $20 and $30 transactions were for. They were not to help with the new roof for the local Catholic church.

If you are a monger from Australia, your bank and the AFP are closely watching all small transactions made to the Philippines. Your internet provider would also have all of your details. It would not surprise me if there were deliberate traps set up. You would be completely stupid to engage in any cam show action with LBFMs in the Philippines.

Red Kilt
11-03-20, 07:13
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My problem is that sometimes I slip and say something like that around a Brit or Canadian here. Sorry gents: "Sometimes I'm talking a pee-noy. Problema ikaw, wala ako".I don't find posts like this very amusing but instead I find them rather insulting.

My guess is that ANY ONE of WC's bedmates speak much better English than he speaks Tagalog or Filipino or any other dialect.

Filipinos amaze me with their language -speaking ability. My wife speaks Tagalog, Ilokano, Bisayan and English very fluently, and switches seamlessly between the dialects as required.

Collecting trivial examples like this of how Pinays might get some statements wrong is demeaning and insulting.

If compiling lists like this represents the only intellectual challenge for guys living here and taking advantage of Pinay favors, then maybe it's time they went home.

It's also probably time I took an extended holiday from reading this board

Cbea20
11-03-20, 10:43
RK, I agree. People find paymates at their own level.


I don't find posts like this very amusing but instead I find them rather insulting.

My guess is that ANY ONE of WC's bedmates speak much better English than he speaks Tagalog or Filipino or any other dialect.

Filipinos amaze me with their language -speaking ability. My wife speaks Tagalog, Ilokano, Bisayan and English very fluently, and switches seamlessly between the dialects as required.

Collecting trivial examples like this of how Pinays might get some statements wrong is demeaning and insulting.

If compiling lists like this represents the only intellectual challenge for guys living here and taking advantage of Pinay favors, then maybe it's time they went home.

It's also probably time I took an extended holiday from reading this board

Engine Driver
11-03-20, 11:03
I don't find posts like this very amusing but instead I find them rather insulting.Are you the self appointed moral and ethical custodian on this board? This is a site for tales of prostitution where old men get together and have a laugh. Most of us don't care what you find insulting or not insulting.

What most people find insulting is NGOs fucking the very girls they've been sent to save. Imagine what the private donors and governments would think?

Soapy Smith
11-03-20, 19:55
Filipinos amaze me with their language -speaking ability. My wife speaks Tagalog, Ilokano, Bisayan and English very fluently, and switches seamlessly between the dialects as required.There's a fine line between laughing at and laughing with. My squeeze lived her first 14 years in Southern Leyte, speaking Bisayan. Then she moved to Manila and has spoken primarily Tagalog since. She sometimes tries to school me--in English, of course--on differences in the two languages, but at my age my memory is like a sieve. Not much sticks.

A couple years ago we visited a couple I know in Digos, south of Davao. She was right at home again speaking Bisayan with them. They got to conversing for a bit and I could pick out a few English words intermingled with native language. At some point I sensed that some of the native words did not sound like Tagalog, so I asked whether they were speaking Tagalog or Bisayan mixed in with English. They stopped for a moment, and suddenly my friend laughed and said, "we're speaking all three. We don't even think about it, whatever word comes to mind when we want to communicate an idea, that's the language we use at that point. " We all laughed.

I suppose I could have been offended that they didn't speak English so that I could follow along, but I realize I'm in their country, not the other way around. I can think of few interactions in the states in which three Americans could suddenly start speaking German, French, or Spanish in order to accommodate a foreign visitor.

I don't make fun of my squeeze's occasional English stumbles, since I speak such limited Filipino, but occasionally some humorous English malapropisms flow from her mouth. When I point them out we usually both have a good laugh. But yeah, making fun of Filipinos' sometimes broken English is a little like allowing yourself to utter racial slurs when nobody of color is within earshot. Humor of this type in the forum is a little like being in an all-white group in which somebody thinks it's okay to start talking some racist shit.

Sometimes it's amazing to me that Filipinos hold things together at all, given that they were once a mass of 7,000 islands and people of diverse cultures who spoke various different languages--until the Spanish colonized them, declared them to be a unified country, named the islands after the Spanish king, and imposed Catholicism on them.
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Red Kilt
11-04-20, 05:23
Are you the self appointed moral and ethical custodian on this board? Nope. Just a board member with an opinion that I am free to express (same as you).



What most people find insulting is NGOs fucking the very girls they've been sent to save. Imagine what the private donors and governments would think?Totally irrelevant. I agree with you but it's got nothing to do with pinays' use of English.

Engine Driver
11-05-20, 08:05
So my field experiment in social sciences continues. The level of desperation amongst LBFMs on dating sites is unbelievable. The situation it seems is quite diabolical actually. About 25% of the girls on PL straight out beg for money after the cursory "Hi Mr ED.

You are very handsome. " If they can't get free money, they then offer me a cam show. Even educated, respectable woman who previously had good employment have been reduced to camming. A further 25% of them on PL are hard core hookers looking to bang a marooned foreigner for 1,000 peso or local Pinoy for 200 peso. The remaining 50% are looking for some relationship with a white or black dick so that he can take them out of their shit hole next year. Some will also sell their pussy if anyone is around their town. All will kindly accept donations. 95% of the lustful Johns cruising the dating sites are already married to nasty, fat white bitches in RWML. They only want to collect free nude photos of LBFMs to prove their virility and self-worth. They need confirmation of their masculinity and attractiveness. Some will get ensnared in the cam show deal. About 5% of the Johns will actually get to the Philippines when the WuFlu finishes to bang 20 chicks in 10 days. How many will actually marry a 30-year old Pinay with two children from two different fathers? There is no happiness to be found on dating sites. There is nothing but total misery there.

BrizLad
11-05-20, 21:52
The level of desperation amongst LBFMs on dating sites is unbelievable. There is nothing but total misery there.I've given up on Filipinas at the moment. For me they have no interest if I cannot get into the country. I know it will be a pussy paradise when we can return.

If my various ex contacts that message me are only being polite to get money.

My current efforts are on local (home town) opportunity.

Briz.

PedroMorales
11-06-20, 01:18
95% of the lustful Johns cruising the dating sites are already married to nasty, fat white bitches in RWML. They only want to collect free nude photos of LBFMs to prove their virility and self-worth. They need confirmation of their masculinity and attractiveness. I never understood collecting (or posting) nude pics. Seems perverted to me. Also, why do a lot of women on dating sites have to ask guys not to send dick pics? How can so many guys be so stupid and ignorant? Is it a class issue or what?

Engine Driver
11-06-20, 03:47
I never understood collecting (or posting) nude pics. Seems perverted to me. Also, why do a lot of women on dating sites have to ask guys not to send dick pics? How can so many guys be so stupid and ignorant? Is it a class issue or what?It's a power thing. They would dare not ask for nude pics or send dick pics to women in the west. But with Filipinas, they think it's okay to humiliate them. The excitement for them seems to be in shocking their victims with their marshmallows. As for obtaining nudes, it's to prove their ability to conquer. None of these time wasters will ever make it to the Philippines.

If you are polite and courteous, you can easily collect a 100 phone numbers of rootable women each week. As has been mentioned before, there will still be a low probability of root conversion though.

Beavis
11-06-20, 06:56
I never understood collecting (or posting) nude pics. Seems perverted to me. Also, why do a lot of women on dating sites have to ask guys not to send dick pics? How can so many guys be so stupid and ignorant? Is it a class issue or what?I think your questions will be answered if you just turn on the news or go to Facebook and see how most people can't even spell their own name. Intelligent thinking is a thing of the past and like most history it will probably be erased too.

WestCoast1
11-06-20, 16:07
RK, I agree. People find paymates at their own level.Concur. Almost all of my playmates here live in homes that have only dirt for a floor (currently, one does not). For years I have integrated with their families, boodled with them, drank with them, played basketball with them, traveled further into the twigs to visit more family with them. Few of them have finished high school. There are entire groups of people out there whom I don't feel a need to integrate with or study.


I don't find posts like this very amusing but instead I find them rather insulting.Sorry you saw it that way. It was meant as amusing, and others saw it that way.


My guess is that ANY ONE of WC's bedmates speak much better English than he speaks Tagalog or Filipino or any other dialect.I think you already know better than that.


wife speaks Tagalog, Ilokano, Bisayan and English very fluently, and switches seamlessly between the dialects as required.She's great for it, as are many others who speak multiple dialects or languages.

Interesting side note regarding such. A few months ago walking down a busy street with my girl and her sister, there were some people in the street near a traffic light where traffic was stopped. They were begging money from the motorists. My girl and her sister expressed disgust, saying that they dislike the begging, they didn't understand what beggars said, and its impossible for the drivers and pedestrians to get away from them. The girls called them Bajiao. A few days later I passed the same area again and the family that was previously begging coins from motorists was resting under a shady tree, a mom / dad and two kids. They were chattering away -- almost completely in Spanish. Surprising. I inquired as to the Spanish (not the local tongue). They said they are from Zamboanga and Spanish is widely spoken among them, and they called themselves Badiao (bah-dee-yow. As in Yao Ming). They were there a few weeks and then gone.


Collecting trivial examples like this of how Pinays might get some statements wrong is demeaning and insulting.Public apology.


If compiling lists like this represents the only intellectual challenge for guys living here and taking advantage of Pinay favors, then maybe it's time they went home.Disagree. Poking fun of the culture on occasion is bound to happen from foreigners. Lord knows how foreigners must view my own culture (like our election system; likewise, Lord knows how the Brits must view my English). Living here is not a 'love it or leave it' situation.


It's also probably time I took an extended holiday from reading this boardDon't do that. You are a voice of reason here. Sorry if I pissed you off.

Why is it not OK for me to poke fun at the language here? Jeff Foxworthy does it regarding rednecks: "Mayonnaise a lot of people here tonight". Mikey Bustos does it regarding pinoy: "My phone its bivrate". Of course I have conversations with other pinoy here on a higher English level.

Engine Driver
11-06-20, 21:05
I've given up on Filipinas at the moment. <snip>

My current efforts are on local (home town) opportunity.

Briz.There is no shortage of Korean, Chinese or Thai pussy in your country. Guaranteed, drama free conversion as long as you pays your money. Hahaha. Keep us informed of your J girl adventures.

Goferring
11-07-20, 03:26
Disagree. Poking fun of the culture on occasion is bound to happen from foreigners. "From" foreigners? What about towards foreigners? You don't think grown men that spend serious cash to fly around the world to fuck cast offs that locals wouldn't touch with a barge pole isn't the subject of ridicule in Manila, Bangkok or Jakarta? 😁.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
11-07-20, 11:42
ED,

I found one of your psycho good girls:

Alternates telling me she will be showing me a great time when I arrive with she is devastated that John from Nebraska is sheading deadweight and no longer interested. He's never been to the PI but she will wait, cross legged, until he arrives / continues sending support. She really does love him.

5 minutes later, photos of a monster meal at the local K-resto with her Chinese "friend" to say goodbye before he goes back to HK. I don't kow if he knows he's in shots being sent to other mongers. Happy snaps continue up until back in his condo where they are "relaxing". I seriously thought I was going to get photos of the 3:3:3 as well. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

PedroMorales
11-07-20, 12:07
"From" foreigners? What about towards foreigners? You don't think grown men that spend serious cash to fly around the world to fuck cast offs that locals wouldn't touch with a barge pole isn't the subject of ridicule in Manila, Bangkok or Jakarta? 😁.

Enjoy. G.I have been the subject of ridicule in Manila, Bangkok, KL and elsewhere because I was bonking local cast offs. If I had my time again, I'd do it all again, Fernando.

Engine Driver
11-08-20, 05:04
ED,

I found one of your psycho good girls:

Alternates telling me she will be showing me a great time when I arrive with she is devastated that John from Nebraska is sheading deadweight and no longer interested. He's never been to the PI but she will wait, cross legged, until he arrives / continues sending support. She really does love him.

5 minutes later, photos of a monster meal at the local K-resto with her Chinese "friend" to say goodbye before he goes back to HK. I don't kow if he knows he's in shots being sent to other mongers. Happy snaps continue up until back in his condo where they are "relaxing". I seriously thought I was going to get photos of the 3:3:3 as well. 😁.

Enjoy. G.Thanks G,

Yes I know that psycho good girl very well. I am totally stupid. Hahahaha. Had I known that Kenny Chong from Hong Kong was going to feed her a monster meal at the local K-resto, I would not have sent her a bunch of money to feed her and her family before hand. Hahaha. She complained that she was "so worried to her foods" because of the typhoon. What was a man to do? Let the barangay starve? Now I'm waiting for the dreaded anti-money laundering squad to bust my door down.

Do you think Kenny Chong or John from Nebraska were listening in while she did a cam show with me? Hahahaha. Those girls are so sneaky. We must ask her for those photos of her "relaxing" hahahaha.

Engine Driver
11-08-20, 05:28
G,

We are both undertaking this rather futile exercise of collecting hundreds of names and numbers of doable LBFMs around the Philippines, by driving the dating apps hard. I have been ruthless in setting my selection criteria. 18- 26 yo, and no heavier than 52 kg. (yes, I know that everyone lies about their age and weight). Like you, I have enough contacts for years to come. We could easily go Manila. Clark - Cebu. Davao - Manila and fuck 30 or 40 chicks in 2-3 weeks. This would be from a mixture of hard core hookers, sweet college girls needing help with fees, single moms looking to be rescued, innocent 18-year old country bumpkins and ordinary women seeking a little extra cash. Very easy to do, but what would be the point? The momentary pleasure obtained from unloading BB into a sweet LBFM's warm pussy is fleeting. It is a totally unfulfilling, and ultimately unsatisfying exercise. There is no 'happiness' to be pursued here. It would also not be drama free. The opportunity cost of spending weeks in the Philippines is also enormous (as opposed to engaging in commerce in RWML).

I think Monkey Paw or FL Hawk on the other board wrote about depression setting in after a banging marathon with Thai LBFMs. But he was quickly shot down by mongers who knew better. Hahaha. Being addicted to brown pussy is no different to any other addiction and the depression and illness from withdrawal is real.

https://www.healthline.com/health/addiction/sex

PedroMorales
11-08-20, 19:22
I have a real photo of me up on one of the dating sites. It is not flattering and should really turn any self-respecting hot chick off. But guess what? A Pinay, young enough to be my grand daughter, who is all rack has just PMed me to chat on wattsapp. Whatever could she want? It is certainly not my body or my pathetic marshmallow.

Still, she is very considerate, which is why I lve her and want to send money to her without knowing her name or anything about her, except she has a great rack. She told me to note her wattsapp number is Malaysia and not to put 63 in front of it. How could you marshmallows not just swoon over an angel like that?.

Goferring
11-08-20, 21:59
We could easily go Manila. Clark - Cebu. Davao - Manila and fuck 30 or 40 chicks in 2-3 weeks. This would be from a mixture of hard core hookers, sweet college girls needing help with fees, single moms looking to be rescued, innocent 18-year old country bumpkins and ordinary women seeking a little extra cash. Very easy to do, but what would be the point? The momentary pleasure obtained from unloading BB into a sweet LBFM's warm pussy is fleeting. It is a totally unfulfilling, and ultimately unsatisfying exercise. There is no 'happiness' to be pursued here....We all have our pain thresholds. Personally, 3 days in AC and my head is ready to explode and it's all I can take. Most of my multi week trip reports include a few down days where no notches are added to the bedpost. I've even written (much to many people's amazement) about seeking out platonic dinners with girls who have passable conversation skills and IQs.

I enjoy the fun to be had incountry but as you noted if it is available day after day week after week it does become a bit much and a break or change is needed. It's a little like AFC on a European vacation: not Another Fucking Cathedral. 😁.

Of course, we both realise that if we get to actually bed 1% of the pandemic induced contacts we will be exceedingly lucky. I have had trips where I was 0 for 100. Perhaps I should follow my own advice and only contact when I'm sitting in Ayala, Greenbelt etc. 😊.

Enjoy. G.

Sammon
11-09-20, 00:30
I have a real photo of me up on one of the dating sites. It is not flattering and should really turn any self-respecting hot chick off. But guess what? A Pinay, young enough to be my grand daughter, who is all rack has just PMed me to chat on wattsapp. Whatever could she want? It is certainly not my body or my pathetic marshmallow.

Still, she is very considerate, which is why I lve her and want to send money to her without knowing her name or anything about her, except she has a great rack. She told me to note her wattsapp number is Malaysia and not to put 63 in front of it. How could you marshmallows not just swoon over an angel like that?.If I had sent money to every good looking girl I chatted with I would be in poorhouse now.

Engine Driver
11-13-20, 21:37
The scamming attempts which go on at PL, FC and DIA are just hilarious. Those bird brained nincompoops and their African handlers were at the end of the queue when God was handing out brains. But it only takes one dickhead monger a day to prove their enterprise has not been a waste of time. Hahahaha.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've come across every type of scam imaginable on PL. Everything from "I'm scared to my foods because of the typhoon", "I've got to quit college now if you don't help" through to "I'll be sleeping on the streets tonight". A girl even asked me for 30k peso to fix her roof which was apparently blown away by the typhoon. Then Grandpa Joe makes a guest appearance! Hahahahahaha. I wonder for how many years Grandpa Joe has been cruising the dating sites? Hahahahahaha. Gofer, you've probably seen him on FC. I tried to read the label on the IV fluids bag, but the picture is too blurry.

Mongers should note that the girl of their dreams (their one and only) they are chatting to on PL, FC or DIA might not even be a girl at all. It might be a big, burly Nigerian man operating out of a house in Manila or Abuja, having done a diploma in Pinay text language. Hahahahaha.

My only advice to mongers is to grab the chicks' WhatsApp numbers now and go and fuck them in Manila, Cebu or Davao when the Wuhan Reaper has left the scene. You will be hit with an avalanche of pussy the minute you arrive at NAIA. Just resist the urge to send any money now to anyone.

Goferring
11-14-20, 09:22
Over the past couple of weeks, I've come across every type of scam imaginable on PL. Everything from "I'm scared to my foods because of the typhoon", "I've got to quit college now if you don't help" through to "I'll be sleeping on the streets tonight". A girl even asked me for 30k peso to fix her roof which was apparently blown away by the typhoon. Then Grandpa Joe makes a guest appearance! Hahahahahaha. I wonder for how many years Grandpa Joe has been cruising the dating sites? Hahahahahaha. Gofer, you've probably seen him on FC. I tried to read the label on the IV fluids bag, but the picture is too blurry.

Mongers should note that the girl of their dreams (their one and only) they are chatting to on PL, FC or DIA might not even be a girl at all. It might be a big, burly Nigerian man operating out of a house in Manila or Abuja, having done a diploma in Pinay text language. Hahahahaha.

My only advice to mongers is to grab the chicks' WhatsApp numbers now and go and fuck them in Manila, Cebu or Davao when the Wuhan Reaper has left the scene. You will be hit with an avalanche of pussy the minute you arrive at NAIA. Just resist the urge to send any money now to anyone.ED,

I quite enjoy the ones that get confused and run when their scam unravels. Several have blocked me when I say I can meet them inperson to give my donation and I name their closest 7/11. Or the combined maladies. A recent cutie contracted cancer, liver disease and dengue all in the same week, poor thing. Luckily she only needed 500 p for medicines and then she would be released from hospital and would be able to video chat me that night with her lesbian lover.

I haven't seen Grandpa Joe. His granddaughters must only be on PL. FC seems to be the catchment area for sick sons with respirator masks. Even for the girls that told me they have daughters.

Recently I've only had a passing look at PL. After you said it was full of burnt out, skanky hoes, that seemed right up my alley so I did do a quick sweep. Lots of girls still there from my previous visits but my subscription has expired so I don't see any reason to renew yet. Maybe when I've actually arrived and find that none of several hundred Cupid numbers actually pan out I'll have some PL mutton turn up with 3 minutes notice.

I'm yet to meet any big fat Nigerian guys. I have chatted a few 5'8" girls with big hands and broken cellphone mics. All seem very keen to meet and have promised a great BJ. Sounds tempting. Many seem to live in Zamboanga City or Pagadian and only need an airfare to be sent before flying over to foreigner friendly Cebu for some fun.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Why is it that so many girls see requesting cash as "bad" but requesting load top up as "good"?

I assume excess load can be cashed out. 🤔.

BrizLad
11-15-20, 00:56
Nice to hear of people keeping in contact with the girls, even just for entertainment. There are genuine girls in amongst the scammers. There are those that really do need and deserve some help. Unfortunately they are mixing in the wrong company via the dating sites.

I sent another P5 k to an ex-flame last week. I'm thinking of it as direct typhoon aid. Over the past 10 years when I've delivered my aid in person I've been able to enjoy the benefits that come. For now, it seems it's going to be a one way street. Rehashed naked pics of her boobs that I cannot have in my face aren't doing it for me.

In another new angle I am having a baby named after me. That's really quite unique and a part of my long term branding strategy in Ph. Yes will cost me a little in annual birthday gifts but it does give me an option for a yummy mummy who wants to go on a holiday every year. I have known the mum for a few years but the baby is not mine, but apparently everyone is OK with the name. I'm not so sure hubby sees me getting the benefits unless I'm contributing to household income.


Brizlad.

HorseTrader
11-15-20, 23:18
ED,

I quite enjoy the ones that get confused and run when their scam unravels. Several have blocked me when I say I can meet them inperson to give my donation and I name their closest 7/11. Or the combined maladies. A recent cutie contracted cancer, liver disease and dengue all in the same week, poor thing. Luckily she only needed 500 p for medicines and then she would be released from hospital and would be able to video chat me that night with her lesbian lover.
Once a girl sent me a picture of her bloody pussy and a trash can full of used tampons and rags. This was to make her case that she needed 500 USD for medicine.

Kabul Guy
11-15-20, 23:57
....
Over the past couple of weeks, I've come across every type of scam imaginable on PL. ......A couple of weeks is not enough time to sample every imaginable scam here. While they continue to roll out the old favourites, the more progressive scammers can be very creative in coming up with new ones.

There are so many girls on line, especially for someone who is currently in country, that I have absolutely zero tolerance for anything that smells of a scam or request for money.

Out of 100 contacts initiated by the girls, I will ignore 90 because of to old, fat ugly etc. Of the 10 I respond to about half will be rejected quickly because of scams or money requests too soon. Of the other 5 some will fall by the wayside because of being too stupid to carry on a conservation or other reason so I will up with one or two chat mates with perhaps one becoming a definite possibility.

But the 100 contacts is only a couple days worth on PL, Tinder and FC.

Goferring
11-16-20, 02:10
There are so many girls on line, especially for someone who is currently in country, that I have absolutely zero tolerance for anything that smells of a scam or request for money.

The scammers I understand and agree with but why the girls indicating that they may need some help? Assuming we are looking for a commercial arrangement vs an unpaid girl friend, what's wrong with everyone knowing where they stand from day one?

Again I'm talking about girls that are upfront but basically honest. I'm not talking about those requesting money for nonexistent airfares, family needs etc nor those who will not be giving a quid pro quo.

Cheers. G.

Kabul Guy
11-16-20, 09:19
...

Again I'm talking about girls that are upfront but basically honest. I'm not talking about those requesting money for nonexistent airfares, family needs etc nor those who will not be giving a quid pro quo.

Cheers. G.No problem with them asking how much you "help" me if I come overnight.

Problem when they ask for money ahead of time, a few thousand peso for. <reasons .

We are on the same page, I just was not clear initially.

Commonglass
11-16-20, 17:39
I know that most of you don't need this, but here is a public service announcement that both sides are playing this game: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJxDYGY7/.

Engine Driver
11-16-20, 21:40
A couple of weeks is not enough time to sample every imaginable scam here. While they continue to roll out the old favourites, the more progressive scammers can be very creative in coming up with new ones.

There are so many girls on line, especially for someone who is currently in country, that I have absolutely zero tolerance for anything that smells of a scam or request for money.

Out of 100 contacts initiated by the girls, I will ignore 90 because of to old, fat ugly etc. Of the 10 I respond to about half will be rejected quickly because of scams or money requests too soon. Of the other 5 some will fall by the wayside because of being too stupid to carry on a conservation or other reason so I will up with one or two chat mates with perhaps one becoming a definite possibility.

But the 100 contacts is only a couple days worth on PL, Tinder and FC.They are variations of common themes. You can break it short cons and long cons. Short cons are are instant cash:

1. Mom / pop / granny in hospital. Please help pay the bill and buy medicines.

2. No work due to Covid, so am starving now.

3. Typhoon / earthquake / volcano / flood has destroyed my house. Starving now, homeless.

4. Stranded in Manila, need to get back to the province. Please send fare.

5. No load for phone. Please help so we can keep chatting.

6. College fees due today, please help.

7. want to cam show or buy my videos?

The long con can be played out over many years. Once a gullible mark has been found, he will be milked for all he is worth. It might monthly remittances and the illusion of a GF / BF relationship will be created. The ultimate objective is to proceed to Rich White Man Land and obtain residency. Then plot to take the victim's house, car and wealth and bring her entire tribe over to enjoy the fruits of her labor in RWML.

BrizLad
11-16-20, 21:43
Again I'm talking about girls that are upfront but basically honest. I'm not talking about those requesting money for nonexistent airfares, family needs etc nor those who will not be giving a quid pro quo.One girl I have known for 8 years years has been in contact with me, she's now living on the family farm back from her single life as a OFW in Dubai. She has asked for 'help' which I declined as I said I had helped her so much in the past. She was quick to explain that previously that was "just business" arrangement as I was getting something in return when she was staying with me in Manila. No she needs 'help' which also implies she won't be returning anything. Bit of a home goal on her part.

BrizLad
11-16-20, 21:46
I know that most of you don't need this, but here is a public service announcement that both sides are playing this game: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJxDYGY7/.Oh that's classic. Reminds me of having to drive my then GF to Western Union so she could get her Korean bfs remittance. It's a twisted world in Ph.

Engine Driver
11-18-20, 06:07
I disconnected with a super cute 18-year old spinner from Samar after she sent me her college tuition bill to pay. Hahaha. Delete and then block. Hahaha. I was beginning to wonder why this hottie would connect with me on her own initiative. I'm a 330-pound monster with a head like a smashed mud crab. My mobility scooter and oxygen tank are clearly visible in the profile photo, and yet they still come running!

What is it with Filipinos and birthdays? They are obsessed with them. Just about every LBFM from every slum wants me to pay for their kids' birthday party! And I've never even met the little fucking street urchins whose birthdays always arise 1-day after I chat up their moms. What's wrong with living within your means. Delete and then block. Hahaha.

Nightrider1
11-22-20, 14:31
Just some random thoughts of my experiences pre and post covid. I have been to phil 50 times since 2004 and usually 4 trips a year between 4 and 6 weeks each trip. If 6 weeks I get a 59 day visa from the Phil consulate before going. Last trip was late Dec to end of Jan 2020. Went to Cebu, Tacloban and Davao and met about 6 chatmates in total. As usual some disasters and some keepers. I always chat first before going, to lessen the chance of a time waster but sometimes hard to judge until boots on the ground and they are sitting there with you at Jolibee. I left Cebu end of January and already masks were unavailable at any pharmacy. I even tried again after the first flight in Seoul but still no masks available.

After I got back I decided to join F Cupid as a change from pina love that I had before. Can't say for me there is much difference in girls on either site. The one thing I have noticed since covid is more desperation and quicker requests for financial assistance. My response always is I don't send money to people until I meet them in person. Most are understanding. Another post covid thing I have noticed is even after developing some closeness with chats on Skype or whatsapp, after a few days or weeks you run out of topics and then the chats become fewer and less often until they stop entirely. If we could plan a physical meetup it would be different but nobody knows when the trips can start again. I guess what I have come to realize now is chatting now is just for entertainment value only. But I paid for a year so I am not stopping now. LOL. This covid better end soon. I am in my upper 70's and as choco monger would say "my marshmallow cock is getting softer ". Not that the girls care too much. My wallet is getting stiffer with no trips.

Anyone know what happened to " Good Enough" from Davao? I always enjoyed his posts, Very knowledgeable because he lived in Davao and was a wordsmith. I had to always keep the Webster dictionary close at hand when he posted. I actually met him about 12 years ago and we had a couple lunches and dinners together. A wine coinsure if there ever was one. To me it was either white or red.

Engine Driver
11-22-20, 21:30
Just some random thoughts of my experiences pre and post covid. I have been to phil 50 times since 2004 and usually 4 trips a year between 4 and 6 weeks each trip. If 6 weeks I get a 59 day visa from the Phil consulate before going. Last trip was late Dec to end of Jan 2020. Went to Cebu, Tacloban and Davao and met about 6 chatmates in total. As usual some disasters and some keepers. I always chat first before going, to lessen the chance of a time waster but sometimes hard to judge until boots on the ground and they are sitting there with you at Jolibee. I left Cebu end of January and already masks were unavailable at any pharmacy. I even tried again after the first flight in Seoul but still no masks available.

After I got back I decided to join F Cupid as a change from pina love that I had before. Can't say for me there is much difference in girls on either site. The one thing I have noticed since covid is more desperation and quicker requests for financial assistance. My response always is I don't send money to people until I meet them in person. Most are understanding. Another post covid thing I have noticed is even after developing some closeness with chats on Skype or whatsapp, after a few days or weeks you run out of topics and then the chats become fewer and less often until they stop entirely. If we could plan a physical meetup it would be different but nobody knows when the trips can start again. I guess what I have come to realize now is chatting now is just for entertainment value only. But I paid for a year so I am not stopping now. LOL. This covid better end soon. I am in my upper 70's and as choco monger would say "my marshmallow cock is getting softer ". Not that the girls care too much. My wallet is getting stiffer with no trips.Nice report Nightrider. Do the girls have an expectation that you're going to marry them and take them to Rich White Man Land or do the understand from the outset that you're only going to meet them for two paid roots and be gone?

Goferring
11-22-20, 22:17
The one thing I have noticed since covid is more desperation and quicker requests for financial assistance. My response always is I don't send money to people until I meet them in person. Most are understanding. Another post covid thing I have noticed is even after developing some closeness with chats on Skype or whatsapp, after a few days or weeks you run out of topics and then the chats become fewer and less often until they stop entirely. If we could plan a physical meetup it would be different but nobody knows when the trips can start again.For some it may be desperation but for many (esp the hotties making contact with 70 yos) its word from friends that Johns are handing out cash for every sob story or tit shot she randomly downloads from the web.

I'm really struggling with maintaining conversations too. Very, very few don't end up with requests for school, medical or rent fees and as you say with no prospect of meeting for 12 months there is very little else to talk about. Doing laundry and cooking meals feature heavily. Even those that I think I have a rapport with with ask who I am when I message 2 days later and then the whole conversation has to be repeated. I have no idea how guys maintain messaging for months on end. "Meet in JBee?" was so much easier. 😊.

Still it's better than nothing and hopefully will provide some contact numbers for when I do actually arrive. Maybe.

Enjoy. G.

Albert9989
11-22-20, 23:01
Interesting views in these previous posts as I have exactly the same happening now.

I can't maintain chats for long even with some regulars who I met several times. Except one maybe but since some weeks all chats have faded away and I am not in the mood to start new ones.

Hope all this will have an end soon.

Chocha Monger
11-22-20, 23:08
After I got back I decided to join F Cupid as a change from pina love that I had before. Can't say for me there is much difference in girls on either site. The one thing I have noticed since covid is more desperation and quicker requests for financial assistance. My response always is I don't send money to people until I meet them in person. Most are understanding. Another post covid thing I have noticed is even after developing some closeness with chats on Skype or whatsapp, after a few days or weeks you run out of topics and then the chats become fewer and less often until they stop entirely. If we could plan a physical meetup it would be different but nobody knows when the trips can start again. I guess what I have come to realize now is chatting now is just for entertainment value only. But I paid for a year so I am not stopping now. LOL. This covid better end soon. I am in my upper 70's and as choco monger would say "my marshmallow cock is getting softer ". Not that the girls care too much. My wallet is getting stiffer with no trips.

Anyone know what happened to " Good Enough" from Davao? I always enjoyed his posts, Very knowledgeable because he lived in Davao and was a wordsmith. I had to always keep the Webster dictionary close at hand when he posted. I actually met him about 12 years ago and we had a couple lunches and dinners together. A wine coinsure if there ever was one. To me it was either white or red.Many septuagenarians have succumbed to the Wuhan flu, including some resident mongers. For those who survive in exile, dreaming of returning to LBFM Paradise, each passing day means a softer marshmallow and lower odds of ever making it back. Grandpa Caramello's greatest fear was dying at home before making back to Flipsville to have his marshmallow sucked one last time. Unfortunately, Caramello was unable to outlive the deadly pandemic. The vaccines from Big Pharma are coming too late to save many.

Goferring
11-22-20, 23:26
I disconnected with a super cute 18-year old spinner from Samar after she sent me her college tuition bill to pay. Hahaha. Delete and then block. Hahaha.Why delete her? The tuition fees will still be there when you do arrive and my experience has been that no grudges are held once you are standing in a hotel room with marshmallow in one hand 1000 p in the other. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

Sammon
11-22-20, 23:52
Why delete her? The tuition fees will still be there when you do arrive and my experience has been that no grudges are held once you are standing in a hotel room with marshmallow in one hand 1000 p in the other. 😁.

Enjoy. G.Seldom they show up. Tuition plea is another way of asking for money. No point in wasting time and salivating. Start chatting couple of weeks before feet on the ground and hope marshmallow hardened by viagra and hot young pussy juice will be heaven.

Chocha Monger
11-23-20, 00:01
Seldom they show up. Tuition plea is another way of asking for money. No point in wasting time and salivating. Start chatting couple of weeks before feet on the ground and hope marshmallow hardened by viagra and hot young pussy juice will be heaven.Sadly, it will be at least another year before aged Viagra-infused marshmallows can reunite with young pussy juice. Thank goodness there is an abundance of trike drivers to fill those pussies with hard eggrolls, making good use of monger remittances to buy post-coital refreshments such as Red Horse and ciggies.

Goferring
11-23-20, 01:15
Seldom they show up. Tuition plea is another way of asking for money. No point in wasting time and salivating. Start chatting couple of weeks before feet on the ground and hope marshmallow hardened by viagra and hot young pussy juice will be heaven.Valid points. Normally I wouldn't even message until I was boots on the ground. But these are exceptional circumstances. My online activity is mildly titillating at best and a few of the numbers may pan out later. I don't think anyone should expect a very high conversion rate though.

I do stand by my previous comment that refusal to pay while out of country has no bearing bearing on whether one will score upon arrival. I've never had a girl hold a grudge when I'm standing there in front of her.

Kabul Guy
11-23-20, 07:28
.... I've never had a girl hold a grudge when I'm standing there in front of her.With cash in hand LOL.

Goferring
11-23-20, 09:17
With cash in hand LOL.Actually cash in one hand marshmallow in the other. LOL.


Why delete her? The tuition fees will still be there when you do arrive and my experience has been that no grudges are held once you are standing in a hotel room with marshmallow in one hand 1000 p in the other. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
11-23-20, 10:10
The pictures of IV drip bags with the grandpa or the LBFM on life support are coming in thick and fast. LOL. Certainly much quicker than last year. This poor 20-year year old LBFM from some town in Mindanao first had an asthma attack, then was diagnosed with heart disease the following day. She's looking for a sponsor to pay for her triple bypass. Yes a fit 20-year spinner in some flea ridden dump needs a triple bypass. Hahahahahahahaha. The funniest thing was there was no photo actually showing the IV bottles connected to said LBFM. When I mentioned that, "she" just ran away. Hahahahaha. Just get the girl on cam straight away and you will know if she is a he. I couldn't be bothered, so just deleted and blocked. In any case, there was probably no girl anyway. Just some Nigerian in Abuja on a fishing trip for an easy 30,000 peso.

The second screen shot shows me inadvertently getting caught up in a dispute over a sack of rice. I was the innocent third party. Hahahaha. Apparently, it was my responsibility to pay for the sack of rice. The MILF wanted 3,000 peso after chatting for one day hahahaha. Fuck me dead. The shit we put up with for a mediocre root or to just to get our marshmallows sucked.

I agree with all the comments regarding conversations with dirt poor Filipinas. What could a highly educated, erudite, wealthy corporate executive in London, Sydney, Paris or New York possibly talk to a poor Filipina in some slum village in Eastern Samar about? Hahahahahahaha. The chasm is just too big to close. Impossible actually. Yes, mind numbing conversations about going to the market to buy vegetables, eating instant noodles for lunch, how she had a nap, is watching Korean drama, making Tik Tok videos or that she is running out of load. At least she won't complain about toilet paper shortages. LOL. What is mind numbing for some mongers must be enthralling for others (remember Bob? Jesus. Seems like the provincial Filipinas spend most of the day napping since it doesn't cost anything. Getting a root with a desperate LBFM doesn't have to be so painful. Just turn on Tinder or WeChat when you arrive at NAIA and you will be hit with an avalanche of pussy. There is actually no need to waste your time on PL, FC or DIA. You will go stir crazy.

You know what the scary thing is? Instagram now sends me recommendations for the Pinay chicks I've just chatted with on on PL! I might need to go to Kenya to get my marshmallow sucked. Those tall, slim, African chicks look pretty hot to me.

Nightrider1
11-23-20, 12:16
Nice report Nightrider. Do the girls have an expectation that you're going to marry them and take them to Rich White Man Land or do the understand from the outset that you're only going to meet them for two paid roots and be gone?I tried to send you private mssg but your inbox is full engine driver.

PedroMorales
11-23-20, 12:47
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One girl I have known for 8 years years has been in contact with me, she's now living on the family farm back from her single life as a OFW in Dubai. She has asked for 'help' which I declined as I said I had helped her so much in the past. She was quick to explain that previously that was "just business" arrangement as I was getting something in return when she was staying with me in Manila. No she needs 'help' which also implies she won't be returning anything. Bit of a home goal on her part.

Drbombay
11-23-20, 17:54
Interesting views in these previous posts as I have exactly the same happening now.

I can't maintain chats for long even with some regulars who I met several times. Except one maybe but since some weeks all chats have faded away and I am not in the mood to start new ones.

Hope all this will have an end soon.I have finally broken down and succumbed to one I met on a dating app from Cavite. Bottom line was I asked her to meet me on IG, and surprisingly she did. Then I asked for a private show and she asked for how much. We haggled, I brought it down from $150 to $100 via Pay Pal. I had opted to use WU, but she is the second Pinay that has told me that they have been banned from WU. That statement alone raised a few alarm bells but I said what the heck, TOFTT.

Got her real name and info and set it up and showed proof. I started to get some usual hemming and hawing since I had just a limited amount of free time to actually enjoy a show before SO came home but finally she came online and did the show. Performance wasn't that great, but great effort was put into it. She's actually a nice looking lady of 44 with a great body. Afterwards we talked broke the ice a little and I put out my terms. I offered maybe once a month to do a transfer and all I expected was a show and a little more voyeurisms. Gave her my breakdown, I'm not planning on leaving SO and kid, and they will come first but if I have an extra $100 at the end of the month, maybe I can send but I don't expect to be asked every other day to pay tuition, or hospital bills or etc. When I asked what she did for work, she pretty much said what I just saw. Translation, she's good looking and really used to be so she was the "other woman" to some other guys who had a family and as a result has three kids. But from looking at videos from her home looks like a nice place.

Fortunately my work will allow me to travel to the PH after COVID settles down, so I put it out there that I may be there and would like to see her. Told her for a work trip, I can't be seen with her tagging along with me so I would set her up in a room apart from mine and that was agreeable. I agree maintaining long distance chats can get tiresome, but now is the time to start sowing the seeds and setting the traps. With vaccines coming, and the whole scale hypocrisy by the likes of folks like the Gov. Of CA who tells everyone to limit Thanksgiving gatherings and shuts down bars, yet is cold caught sitting in a large group celebrating someone's 50th birthday indoors, no masks in one of the most expensive restaurants in the USA with a group made up of lobbyists and some of the same folks on the CA public health boards while sending his kids to private school in person yet telling the rest of the folks in person schooling is too dangerous is starting to not sit well with folks. Even in very liberal CA they are tired of his stuff. Multiply that world wide, and in the USA with Trump out of the office net year and there's no more "Bogey Man" to blame it on things will probably start to change a bit. I am sure the normal scene of how things used to be with basically supermarket service of walking in and picking up at the local bar scene will take some time to get back going, so now is the time to start laying the groundwork to make those first trips (I'm going to say by mid March) more productive by having one you've set up things with now, rather than trying to maintain something distant for a year.

Am I going to get taken to the cleaners by this one? Probably so, hell I'm still not being fully honest with her so the amount I put into it is what I am willing to write off. Don't get me wrong, not a big spender and I need to watch every dollar I spend but one thing COVID lockdowns have shown that I can get by without some of the daily spending I used to do that would also be done while I was mongering. So I say why not, I'm not expecting to sweep this lady off her feet, nor putting her nephews through trade school. A simple transaction so at least when I get there I will have one more option on the table.

Mr Enternational
11-23-20, 20:53
Then I asked for a private show and she asked for how much. We haggled, I brought it down from $150 to $100 via Pay Pal. She's actually a nice looking lady of 44 with a great body. Gave her my breakdown, I'm not planning on leaving SO and kid, and they will come first but if I have an extra $100 at the end of the month, maybe I can send.I said it before that guys are paying more to see these broads on cam than they would have to pay to actually fuck them in real life. It appears to be 5 times as much as a matter of fact. SMDH!

Goferring
11-23-20, 23:58
.... I'm not planning on leaving SO and kid, and they will come first but if I have an extra $100 at the end of the month, maybe I can send but I don't expect to be asked every other day to pay tuition, or hospital bills or etc. When I asked what she did for work, she pretty much said what I just saw. Translation, she's good looking and really used to be so she was the "other woman" to some other guys who had a family and as a result has three kids....I've always been adamant that guys can spend their money how and on who they want to. So its good you had a good time.

BUT 5000 p for a 44 yo with 3 kids to give a so so show then have the possibility of it becoming a reoccurring gig explains why girls are leaving bars and in person P4 P gigs en-mass.

Just imagine how much business a hot 19 yo is pulling in online without so much as meeting guys let alone actually having to fuck a fat sweaty 70 yo.

Cheers. G.

BrizLad
11-23-20, 23:59
Just turn on Tinder or WeChat when you arrive at NAIA and you will be hit with an avalanche of pussy. There is actually no need to waste your time on PL, FC or DIA. You will go stir crazy.
In mid-2021 there will be a stampede of freshly vaccinated mongers landing at NAIA and dispersing into their favourite province. We will each hit our favourite town and be welcomed by the resident foreigners whom will be happy to pass us the baton for servicing al the SYTs. There will be many bills to pay and we will happily do our best to contribute to as many families as we can during our short stay.

A few years ago one of my Filipina flings did genuinely get diagnosed with a condition and required ongoing support. I did help get her through that and she did graduate college with me paying the final bill. Last message contact I had was that she had found a new foreigner man. I do see her on IG from time to time and she looks very happy with new man. I really wish her the best for her life as she has been dealt a tough life. One day maybe her BF can thank me for training her to take anal and CIM.

BrizLad
11-24-20, 00:02
I've always been adamant that guys can spend their money how and on who they want to. So its good you had a good time.

BUT 5000 p for a 44 yo with 3 kids to give a so so show then have the possibility of it becoming a reoccurring gig explains why girls are leaving bars and in person P4 P gigs en-mass.

Just imagine how much business a hot 19 yo is pulling in online without so much as meeting guys let alone actually having to fuck a fat sweaty 70 yo.

Cheers. G.Good for MrBombay getting what he wants.

For the Filipina though there is also a need to understand 'volume'. I don't know the numbers here, let's say on any day pre-covid there were 100,000 Filipinas fucking foreigners across the country. Is that number the same or is there less than 5,000 getting $100 a hit.

Drbombay
11-24-20, 00:07
I've always been adamant that guys can spend their money how and on who they want to. So its good you had a good time.

BUT 5000 p for a 44 yo with 3 kids to give a so so show then have the possibility of it becoming a reoccurring gig explains why girls are leaving bars and in person P4 P gigs en-mass.

Just imagine how much business a hot 19 yo is pulling in online without so much as meeting guys let alone actually having to fuck a fat sweaty 70 yo.

Cheers. G.You know before my "vaccine" was released I did testing and actually had a rather younger one online and managed to get her off the dating app to WhatsApp and then started asking to see how far she would go. She only changed into something slightly sexier, but wouldn't really do anything else. Then I got the whole "I can't do that kind of stuff I'm looking for my soulmate" stuff and so I decided to cut bait. You may be right, there are some out there who are younger but for now I think the overall effects of COVID has pushed them more into the "time to get out the rain" and chose up and make the most with someone who can get me out of here rather than what some of the older ones who probably said when they were younger "tomorrow never comes" and as a result are willing to see how the world really works.

I'm just saying this will probably work for me. Of course once things get back open there will be price adjustments as some of the old haunts will no longer be open and maybe some newer ones will come into play but may have a different pricing scheme.

Mr Enternational
11-24-20, 00:24
Of course once things get back open there will be price adjustments as some of the old haunts will no longer be open and maybe some newer ones will come into play but may have a different pricing scheme.If by price adjustments surely you do not mean prices going down. And there are no new places coming. They do not want the old places as it is and have you seen how far down the talent and service had gone at old places? Once what is left die out then that is a wrap on that era.

The game is now online. But it was supposed to be the meet a chick and she comes over and fuck for $20 game, not the pay $100 to see her on cam game. There are tons of recorded cam shows online for free!

Drbombay
11-24-20, 01:30
If by price adjustments surely you do not mean prices going down. And there are no new places coming. They do not want the old places as it is and have you seen how far down the talent and service had gone at old places? Once what is left die out then that is a wrap on that era.

The game is now online. But it was supposed to be the meet a chick and she comes over and fuck for $20 game, not the pay $100 to see her on cam game. There are tons of recorded cam shows online for free!True I can see the game shifting to online, but frankly I've found that if it's that cheap, I'll wind up spending more because after all it's only going to be $20. But a little more expensive, then I'll choose wisely. Keep in mind, this is what works for me. I know my situation and what I can and can't do but this works. Just like there have always been some very high end that will charge more than the average $300-$400 for 1 hour (going rate for here in Japan where I am), and there are some that are a little less than the average and there will be just about the same quality throughout. Just what one is willing to put up with.

Drbombay
11-24-20, 06:56
If by price adjustments surely you do not mean prices going down. And there are no new places coming. They do not want the old places as it is and have you seen how far down the talent and service had gone at old places? Once what is left die out then that is a wrap on that era.

The game is now online. But it was supposed to be the meet a chick and she comes over and fuck for $20 game, not the pay $100 to see her on cam game. There are tons of recorded cam shows online for free!Hate to say you are probably right. Just like all the malls that are in America have seemed to go downhill with the coming of internet shopping, I suspect the same will happen for those many famous places like Orchard Towers and the many other Lurker Avenues across the world. But just as the malls declined and online shopping picked up, people have started to find there is nothing like actually going to a store, trying something on and seeing if it actually works can't be beat. Same for the future of lurking, sure you can scout more in a manner of minutes over a broad area than one could do say sitting in a bar in Angeles city, but you never know how far away from you they will be, if they are in a session, and how much of it is photoshopped. Nothing better to have one pull up a stool and sit next to you and try the hands on approach at hustling. Plus nothing worse than being with an internet provider and her phone pinging every 5 minutes either from her agency or another customer putting another bid in.

Drbombay
11-24-20, 06:59
I've always been adamant that guys can spend their money how and on who they want to. So its good you had a good time.

BUT 5000 p for a 44 yo with 3 kids to give a so so show then have the possibility of it becoming a reoccurring gig explains why girls are leaving bars and in person P4 P gigs en-mass.

Just imagine how much business a hot 19 yo is pulling in online without so much as meeting guys let alone actually having to fuck a fat sweaty 70 yo.

Cheers. G.To be fair to the 44 yr. Old, she looks like a "kept woman" and is in great physical shape and a body that is a knock out! Much better than some of the younger ones I've seen and IMO well worth the costs.

Engine Driver
11-24-20, 08:57
To be fair to the 44 yr. Old, she looks like a "kept woman" and is in great physical shape and a body that is a knock out! Much better than some of the younger ones I've seen and IMO well worth the costs.So a monger pays five times the going rate for a cam show. That's the good thing about an unregulated economy. You can pay whatever you like. The 44 year old MILF must have thought he was super rich and an easy mark. The hot young spinners only quote me 1,000 peso for a show or say "up to you". That's the benefit of looking poor, being fat and confined to a mobility scooter and respirator. But I never take up the offer as I don't want the dreaded knock on my door by the Feds. Hahaha.

Datiao
11-24-20, 14:54
To be fair to the 44 yr. Old, she looks like a "kept woman" and is in great physical shape and a body that is a knock out! Much better than some of the younger ones I've seen and IMO well worth the costs.It would be great if there's a Pic which tells a thousand words.

AussieGaigin
11-24-20, 23:49
r Lurker Avenues across the world. But just as the malls declined and online shopping picked up, people have started to find there is nothing like actually going to a store, trying something on and seeing if it actually works can't be beat. .A common complaint here in Australia was that were people were going to the shops and trying on the clothes, then going home and buying the same item on line for a fraction of the retail price.

BrizLad
11-24-20, 23:50
But I never take up the offer as I don't want the dreaded knock on my door by the Feds. Hahaha.You must be getting interesting offers.

Since Westpac and others had their runin with Austrac I've been wondering if my activities have flagged anything. I'm thinking I've had 20-30 $100 transfers to Philippines each year for the past few years. All legitimate to girls I know and have met though.

Engine Driver
11-25-20, 00:23
A common complaint here in Australia was that were people were going to the shops and trying on the clothes, then going home and buying the same item on line for a fraction of the retail price.Yes, that's always been the Aussie way. Giving the two fingered salute. Hahaha. It was pointless buying at the store because customer service doesn't really exist. The shops are manned by people who don't want to be there or by Asian international students who can't speak English.

Goferring
11-25-20, 04:21
Yes, that's always been the Aussie way. Giving the two fingered salute. Hahaha. It was pointless buying at the store because customer service doesn't really exist. The shops are manned by people who don't want to be there or by Asian international students who can't speak English.I'm really struggling to remember the last time I walked into a store and bought an item that wasn't a daily staple. Same for girls. My last actual barfine was a disaster and that was after many years of only using existing contacts, referrals or online hookups.

If I go to a bar now, more than likely it's to meet up with male friends not to score hoes.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
11-25-20, 22:45
You must be getting interesting offers.Not as good as Dr Bombay's deal. One girl in Cebu said she would go and grab her friend for a double show at the same price. Another said she would perform for unlimited time (with unlimited cum shots hahaha. No thank you.

All seem to say that business is slow and there is just too much competition for customers. If there are 1,000 mongers cruising the dating sites, there must be 2,000 girls willing to flash their assets for money at any given time.

Many mongers get off on flashing their marshmallows to the girls. Hahaha. No money in that for anyone.

Goferring
11-26-20, 07:01
Many mongers get off on flashing their marshmallows to the girls. Hahaha. No money in that for anyone.There is for the girls if John was stupid enough to send his photo to the girl and a reverse image search brings up his happy ever after family and image conscious occupation.

I'm not paranoid enough to say it happens a lot but it's not unheard of.

Cheers. G.

PedroMorales
11-26-20, 09:42
I have women begging me to pay them $25 for a scam show. I prefer to keep my money. There is software that has a girl waving etc but is fake and designed to blackmail you, I know of cases, reported in the media, where guys killed themselves, having been fooled to jerk off etc online.

Marshmallow flashing is a huge thing. I know a very respectable friend of mine who mooned street walkers for a car many moons ago, I would not have expected that from him in 1,000,000 years. Point is there is a lot of flashing going on. Howe many of them are immature kids, budding rapists etc I don't know.

As long as C19 travel restrictions last, online is only for fun. This fool will not part so easily with his money.

Goferring
11-26-20, 21:42
There is software that has a girl waving etc but is fake and designed to blackmail you...How do girls make video calls that are just prerecorded clips?

I understand sending a video attachment. That's simple. But I have had a couple of video calls that were obviously prerecorded. I'm not WhatsApp literate enough to know how this is done and how they can be quickly identified (beyond them not responding directly to your spoken requests or instructions).

PedroMorales
11-27-20, 01:00
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/ewhoring-scam-camgirl-show/

The above answers your questions. Please read but remember, it is only 101. There is software now to do everything and e scamming horny guys is a numbers game. I am sure all the fiverr guys in India and Pakistan are helping. My needs are quite simple. I have a marshmallow that wants moist Bush. But the game has moved on and so has the software.

I have not moved on. My primary tastes are very simple (LBFMs in the flesh). Real not virtual for me. Virtual is not my mindset.


How do girls make video calls that are just prerecorded clips?

I understand sending a video attachment. That's simple. But I have had a couple of video calls that were obviously prerecorded. I'm not WhatsApp literate enough to know how this is done and how they can be quickly identified (beyond them not responding directly to your spoken requests or instructions).

Drbombay
11-27-20, 05:50
Not as good as Dr Bombay's deal. One girl in Cebu said she would go and grab her friend for a double show at the same price. Another said she would perform for unlimited time (with unlimited cum shots hahaha. No thank you.

All seem to say that business is slow and there is just too much competition for customers. If there are 1,000 mongers cruising the dating sites, there must be 2,000 girls willing to flash their assets for money at any given time.

Many mongers get off on flashing their marshmallows to the girls. Hahaha. No money in that for anyone.What worked for me was I met the one I mentioned on Skout. Spent some time there and then just asked if person had IG and worked from there. If you go to Massage Republic you can see the link to the cam shows but like others have said those are just set ups most likely. There are more ways like the one I mentioned where you get to know and get them to a one on one situation. Hey I will admit virtual is not the best, but what are you going to do in these times?

Drbombay
11-27-20, 06:02
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/ewhoring-scam-camgirl-show/

The above answers your questions. Please read but remember, it is only 101. There is software now to do everything and e scamming horny guys is a numbers game. I am sure all the fiverr guys in India and Pakistan are helping. My needs are quite simple. I have a marshmallow that wants moist Bush. But the game has moved on and so has the software.

I have not moved on. My primary tastes are very simple (LBFMs in the flesh). Real not virtual for me. Virtual is not my mindset.There is a site in Japan called "Madame Chat" or something along those lines where you join for free, and they post profiles of women online who are supposedly "housewives" that are sitting in rooms just waiting to chat. You pick one and then meet in private room and then you chat them up and it is up to them to do what they want. I tried this out (years ago) and found it to be interesting. These were legit women who were just picking up extra cash on the side. Made some plans with one, but some jealous boyfriend type (in Japanese society he was more of a big loser) kept getting in the way of us meeting. I was in Yokohama at the time and she was further south, but dude was asking her to ask me if I pay her way up to see him (he was in my area) then we could get together. I cut ties at that point.

Problem I kept running into the number of English speakers was low and they weren't on all the time, but was striking up a solid conversation with one and the SO was coming upstairs so I had to bail out. Price was on par you pay be credit card for points, and each minute was probably about 10 point or something like that. That site was very popular with Japanese dudes since most of them are what they call "shut in" types who try to avoid social contact at all costs but are willing to troll the web all hours of the night looking for interaction. Though not a Philippine Chat room it will be those guys that one will see who will be flooding the bars and streets of Angeles City and other spots once travel opens up. Be aware, those types will have a lot of money to spend so I advise start laying the ground work now.

Mr Enternational
11-27-20, 07:54
Hey I will admit virtual is not the best, but what are you going to do in these times?You could do what I mentioned before and just visit a country that is open. PI is not the only show in town.

Engine Driver
12-13-20, 12:20
Before any of you horny mongers whip out your marshmallows to jack off to a cute Pinay on screen, make sure you watch this video.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/101-east/2020/11/13/philippines-queen-of-extortion/

JackLad100
12-14-20, 01:15
Before any of you horny mongers whip out your marshmallows to jack off to a cute Pinay on screen, make sure you watch this video.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/101-east/2020/11/13/philippines-queen-of-extortion/Thanks Driver,

Very interesting viewing.

WestCoast1
12-14-20, 02:48
Very interesting viewing.


Before any of you horny mongers whip out your marshmallows to jack off to a cute Pinay on screen, make sure you watch this video.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/101-east/2020/11/13/philippines-queen-of-extortion/Yes, and as part of the 101 course, which we've covered before, the best advice is that you not only keep your cam turned off (you are paying to see the girl, not vice versa), but that you also cover it (with a piece of tape, or such) so you can't be seen in case its turned on remotely. Bajesus.

Engine Driver
12-14-20, 05:11
Yes, and as part of the 101 course, which we've covered before, the best advice is that you not only keep your cam turned off (you are paying to see the girl, not vice versa), but that you also cover it (with a piece of tape, or such) so you can't be seen in case its turned on remotely. Bajesus.Good advice Westie. The thrill for many mongers comes from showing off their 2-inch marshmallows to the "girls", so they need their cameras on. Hahaha.

In the program, the workers were lady boys and the "live cam shows" were just pre-recorded crap they pinched from porn sites! Hahaha.

Drbombay
12-14-20, 06:59
Before any of you horny mongers whip out your marshmallows to jack off to a cute Pinay on screen, make sure you watch this video.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/101-east/2020/11/13/philippines-queen-of-extortion/Good tutorial.

Drbombay
12-14-20, 08:13
Good tutorial.To offer a few recommendations:

1. Different emails are free and plentiful. Keep your "real life" profiles separate from your Lurking profiles. If someone pretty asks to inbox you on your regular FB, or other program, just deny and move on.

2. They use fake profiles so should you. Keep your real life private. You can make a slew of Google or other email addresses to provide to those sites to register. If you will put up a profile pic, make sure it's not one you use on your normal accounts.

3. Dual sim phones, I can't stress enough. Keep the numbers and worlds private. I'm using a Samsung and they have a nice app that lets you set up a complete private portion where you can have your off-name FB, WA and other accounts. With a dual sim you can use that number, or try something like Hushed which will let you register WA. I have two WA accounts on my phone. One for everyday use, and the other for lurking.

4. Sending money. This is where they will get you. You can chat on Meet Me as anonymous all you want but when your break down and want to remit money, you will have to use your real name unless there is a way that one can send without giving up too much info. You'll also find out that all of a sudden their name will have changed when you get ready to submit, or they are "black balled" from Western Union. If that's the case, you should seriously think twice about showing your manhood online.

I'm sure that there are many more ways to make sure you are safe lurking. Just take it easy and be careful. If you are one who doesn't care what your family and friends see you do, then go right ahead. But if you want to stay in the shadows, pick up a few tricks to keep you safe.

PedroMorales
12-14-20, 09:46
Before any of you horny mongers whip out your marshmallows to jack off to a cute Pinay on screen, make sure you watch this video.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/101-east/2020/11/13/philippines-queen-of-extortion/Excellent video and for those who did 101, better towards the end.

1. Their methods are primitive, cutting and pasting Pornhub stuff. The technology is way beyond that.

2. Cops and everyone on the take.

3. Interesting how they target their victims, overseas oil workers etc.

4. Some other points, mostly towards the end.

5. I do like how Maria wears a God t shirt and that she puts her faith in God. God delivered mugs to her.

Engine Driver
12-14-20, 10:09
As for the cam show scams, I have to admit that the Pinay who invented the scam is a fucking genius. She certainly is not a birdbrained nincompoop. She knows that foreign mongers love to show off their 2-inch marshmallows, so she went for it. Hahahaha. She puts the Nigerians to shame.

Pinaypounder
12-14-20, 19:19
As for the cam show scams, I have to admit that the Pinay who invented the scam is a fucking genius. She certainly is not a birdbrained nincompoop. She knows that foreign mongers love to show off their 2-inch marshmallows, so she went for it. Hahahaha. She puts the Nigerians to shame.This person is a criminal. And I hope that someone finds them and kills them for the harm that they have caused.

Webcam sex is common and I have had it with mutually consenting partners hundreds of times. No one should be fucked over for this.

PP.

Mr Enternational
12-14-20, 20:25
Webcam sex is common and I have had it with mutually consenting partners hundreds of times. No one should be fucked over for this.You are only fucked over if you believe you did something wrong. They have no power over a mf that does not care or is not ashamed.

Pute Nut
12-14-20, 21:28
As for the cam show scams, I have to admit that the Pinay who invented the scam is a fucking genius. She certainly is not a birdbrained nincompoop. She knows that foreign mongers love to show off their 2-inch marshmallows, so she went for it. Hahahaha. She puts the Nigerians to shame.Yeah it's hard not to laugh over the young Brit lad who killed himself when his money ran out. So funny. Hahahaha.

Engine Driver
12-14-20, 21:46
Yeah it's hard not to laugh over the young Brit lad who killed himself when his money ran out. So funny. Hahahaha.I keep saying this. Many mongers take everything so literally. Sarcasm, wit and humor is certainly lost under all those layers of fat. Hahahaha.

Pute Nut
12-14-20, 23:08
I keep saying this. Many mongers take everything so literally. Sarcasm, wit and humor is certainly lost under all those layers of fat. Hahahaha.I was bit surprised though to hear that they primarily target rich Singaporeans, who are supposed to be a high-IQ lot.

Obviously not much help when they let their 2-inch marshmallows do the thinking. S-boy's long going educational efforts seem wasted.

Goferring
12-15-20, 00:09
You are only fucked over if you believe you did something wrong. They have no power over a mf that does not care or is not ashamed.That's why I don't go for all this 007, secret squirrel, second identity stuff. I don't do stupid shit online and any girl I do see face to face could easily spend 5 minutes or 500 p to hotel staff to find my true identity. Sure I keep a separate monger phone and don't hand out my wife's work email address but that's my limit.

My to do list is:

Don't do stupid shit.

Treat everyone decently, without being a sucker.

Get drunk, party 'till 4 am OR chase dirty hoes. Don't get drunk, party 'till 4 am AND chase dirty hoes.

Don't lie to girls showing them that they have leverage over you.

If it's too good to be true, bail out.

If the SHTF, smile and pay early. Don't escalate to higher authorities expecting a solution.

Enjoy. G.

ForkTruck
12-15-20, 01:15
or they are "black balled" from Western Union. I tried to send by WU once to a girl and WU refused saying she was "black Balled" or something similiar. I never had that happen before nor since and when I told her what WU said she acted shocked and offered no reason. What are the reasons for this to happen? I'm sure she must have been up to something bcuz WU wouldn't refuse to make a buck without a good reason. Anyone?

Goferring
12-15-20, 01:28
I tried to send by WU once to a girl and WU refused saying she was "black Balled" or something similiar. I never had that happen before nor since and when I told her what WU said she acted shocked and offered no reason. What are the reasons for this to happen? I'm sure she must have been up to something bcuz WU wouldn't refuse to make a buck without a good reason. Anyone?Previous guys have reported "her" account for fraudulent activity. As WU is for cash transfer as opposed to payment for services the reports could be for anything but there have been enough of them for WU to cut their losses and walk away from "her" potential business.

Or her account activity smells of laudering.

Mr Enternational
12-15-20, 02:59
My to do list is:

Don't do stupid shit.And the stupid shit would be adding someone I did not know to facebook as the person in the video said that was how the scam was run. When someone tries to add me I go over with a fine tooth comb to see who it is and I may not click confirm for months or even years in some cases.

But of course some guys are sitting around horny then all of a sudden a pretty face pops up and their brain turns to mush. I have not even thought about using facebook for that kind of shit. I only use it as a connect to non-hooker people that I have met in my lifetime, e. G. coworkers, classmates, military buddies, family, etc.

Drbombay
12-15-20, 18:16
And the stupid shit would be adding someone I did not know to facebook as the person in the video said that was how the scam was run. When someone tries to add me I go over with a fine tooth comb to see who it is and I may not click confirm for months or even years in some cases.

But of course some guys are sitting around horny then all of a sudden a pretty face pops up and their brain turns to mush. I have not even thought about using facebook for that kind of shit. I only use it as a connect to non-hooker people that I have met in my lifetime, e. G. coworkers, classmates, military buddies, family, etc.I've dealt with the "pretty face" situation this way, I always ask myself why would a nice stunner like that be that interested in me on a cold call? I'm not saying I don't have confidence in my ability or looks, but I'm just being realistic. Someone that cray over me without knowing tells me all I need to know and just stand clear. Not saying that I am only into "ugly" (no one is really ugly at 2 am the night before the ship gets underway) but you get my drift. Just manage your expectations and sometimes it's good not to believe your own hype.

Goferring
12-15-20, 23:15
And the stupid shit would be adding someone I did not know to facebook as the person in the video said that was how the scam was run..FB is a double edged sword. Girls can use it as a foot in the door to find a huge amount of detailed info about John and FB itself connects the dots from a vast array of sources to recommend him to people and unexplainable faces to his own account. All of which may not be desirable and often without his consent.

Don't even get me started on potential dramas from 'friend of friends' connections.

Enjoy. G.

Pute Nut
12-16-20, 00:45
FB is a double edged sword. Girls can use it as a foot in the door to find a huge amount of detailed info about John and FB itself connects the dots from a vast array of sources to recommend him to people and unexplainable faces to his own account. All of which may not be desirable and often without his consent.

Exactly. And filipinas often have much more time than you do to "research" and contact your FB connections for info. Better keep FB settings at absolute minimum disclosure, ideally without pics. Never routinely approve requests as Mr E pointed out. It's amazing how many requesting accounts "vaporize" if you let them linger for a while.

Kabul Guy
12-16-20, 09:36
Exactly. And filipinas often have much more time than you do to "research" and contact your FB connections for info. Better keep FB settings at absolute minimum disclosure, ideally without pics. Never routinely approve requests as Mr E pointed out. It's amazing how many requesting accounts "vaporize" if you let them linger for a while.I just cycle my mongering FB account every 6 months or so. I also never friend my mongering account and my regular FB account. I just abandon the old account and set up a new one with only minimal information.

Pinaypounder
12-16-20, 18:40
Yeah it's hard not to laugh over the young Brit lad who killed himself when his money ran out. So funny. Hahahaha.Completely disagree. Surprised to read your comment.

PP.

Pinaypounder
12-16-20, 18:44
That's why I don't go for all this 007, secret squirrel, second identity stuff. I don't do stupid shit online and any girl I do see face to face could easily spend 5 minutes or 500 p to hotel staff to find my true identity. Sure I keep a separate monger phone and don't hand out my wife's work email address but that's my limit.

My to do list is:

Don't do stupid shit.

Treat everyone decently, without being a sucker.

Get drunk, party 'till 4 am OR chase dirty hoes. Don't get drunk, party 'till 4 am AND chase dirty hoes.

Don't lie to girls showing them that they have leverage over you.

If it's too good to be true, bail out.

If the SHTF, smile and pay early. Don't escalate to higher authorities expecting a solution.

Enjoy. G.I act the same as you. These are great rules for the "players" better word is Mongerer of which I am one now and again. I prefer to date normal gals and reward them versus a straight up pro but once in awhile an angry fuck with a straight up pro is on the menu.

We are not participating in a noble act but it is an honest act, one of self pleasure and we have earned that right.

So lets be honest about it!

PP.

Soapy Smith
12-20-20, 01:07
5. I do like how Maria wears a God t shirt and that she puts her faith in God. God delivered mugs to her.I generally distrust people who wear religion on their sleeves. A faithful Christian, for example, can simply act charitably towards others without needing to explain it as religion. People who wear their Christianity on clothing or announce their Christianity as part of their "presentation of self" are doing it to manipulate other people's impressions of them (or perhaps trying to convince themselves of it). "Good" Christian is not a thing unless you can show examples of "bad" Christians.

Engine Driver
12-20-20, 01:53
Completely disagree. Surprised to read your comment.

PP.I think he actually meant the opposite. He was taking a dig at me hahaha. Sarcasm, wit and humor is lost on many mongers.

Kabul Guy
12-21-20, 11:18
....... "Good" Christian is not a thing unless you can show examples of "bad" Christians.Lots of examples of bad Christians out there.

Pute Nut
12-21-20, 12:03
Yes, ED, QED.


i think he actually meant the opposite. He was taking a dig at me hahaha. Sarcasm, wit and humor is lost on many mongers.

Detwing1
12-21-20, 12:31
I generally distrust people who wear religion on their sleeves. A faithful Christian, for example, can simply act charitably towards others without needing to explain it as religion. People who wear their Christianity on clothing or announce their Christianity as part of their "presentation of self" are doing it to manipulate other people's impressions of them (or perhaps trying to convince themselves of it). "Good" Christian is not a thing unless you can show examples of "bad" Christians.Whenever I'm doing business with someone, and they start telling me how much of a good Christian they are, blah blah blah, I know I'm about to get fucked.

BrizLad
12-21-20, 12:41
Hi Kabulguy,

Somewhere in the forum I read about you losing contact with a girl around the start of covid season. Something about how you noticed none of her accounts got touched again. Did that girl ever resurface or get in contact?

I'm just interested as to whether girls come and go like that.

BrizLad
12-21-20, 12:51
I generally distrust people who wear religion on their sleeves. A faithful Christian, for example, can simply act charitably towards others without needing to explain it as religion. People who wear their Christianity on clothing or announce their Christianity as part of their "presentation of self" are doing it to manipulate other people's impressions of them (or perhaps trying to convince themselves of it). "Good" Christian is not a thing unless you can show examples of "bad" Christians.I have been on the receiving end of forgiveness from a few pinay. They have caught me cheating on them, I ask for forgiveness and they let me back into their pussy. That's the beauty of their strong Christian faith for me.

Wicked Roger
12-21-20, 20:25
Hi Kabulguy,

Somewhere in the forum I read about you losing contact with a girl around the start of covid season. Something about how you noticed none of her accounts got touched again. Did that girl ever resurface or get in contact?

I'm just interested as to whether girls come and go like that.Yes they do IMHO, they change their mobile numbers more than I have had hot dinners also. Then send the ubiquitous 'Hi' to my number expecting me to know who it is as if I have ESP etc.

Plus if you gave cash previously they will also resurface especially around school fee payment time, Christmas, birthday and or natural disaster. Then it is up to you to decide next steps on cash etc.

I have some cuties who come and go and mainly come back for one of the 4 reasons above.

Wicked Roger
12-21-20, 20:27
I have been on the receiving end of forgiveness from a few pinay. They have caught me cheating on them, I ask for forgiveness and they let me back into their pussy. That's the beauty of their strong Christian faith for me.I don't think it is the faith that makes them forgive it is your wallet maybe?

I have been caught (more than once) playing with a cutie's sister and been forgiven. Some forgave me so much we had a nice threesome LOL and even brought a cousin along as 4 is an even number. Forgiveness comes in many ways and bisexual sisters is just one of them LOL.

Member #1088
12-22-20, 00:52
I don't think it is the faith that makes them forgive it is your wallet maybe?

I have been caught (more than once) playing with a cutie's sister and been forgiven. Some forgave me so much we had a nice threesome LOL and even brought a cousin along as 4 is an even number. Forgiveness comes in many ways and bisexual sisters is just one of them LOL.I think they see it as as protection of their investment and to keep you, so you keep giving $ and they share the load of keeping you happy.

One spinner one time that I wanted to visit her, couldnt do because of her mens, so she proposed I take her untouch sister, just so I don't go looking around. I didn't take up the offer, didn't know if it was a test or not.
so instead i showed her how to get milk from me without wasting a drop in the swallow, lol lol i only have to wait 2 days until the mens passed for the full service

Soapy Smith
12-22-20, 06:45
Lots of examples of bad Christians out there.Of course. You and I see that, but then we're not "good Christians" who view other Christians with rose-tinted glasses. My point was that many pompous Christians use "good" as an unreflective adjective, as though good and Christian are synonymous.

Soapy Smith
12-22-20, 06:51
Whenever I'm doing business with someone, and they start telling me how much of a good Christian they are, blah blah blah, I know I'm about to get fucked.You made my point better than I did.

Soapy Smith
12-22-20, 07:01
I have been on the receiving end of forgiveness from a few pinay. They have caught me cheating on them, I ask for forgiveness and they let me back into their pussy. That's the beauty of their strong Christian faith for me.Are you saying that Christianity makes Filipinas manipulable? Notice that in your example they are not posturing their Christian goodness on you, as in Detwing's example; you're drawing their Christianity out of them. Two different things.

VictorHugo99
12-23-20, 00:21
Sorry to hear that's the case.

Vic.


You made my point better than I did.

Cbea20
12-23-20, 04:27
Whenever I'm doing business with someone, and they start telling me how much of a good Christian they are, blah blah blah, I know I'm about to get fucked.I know I'm getting lucky when she says, "I'm not like those other girls. " The really good girl never says that.

BrizLad
12-23-20, 12:17
Are you saying that Christianity makes Filipinas manipulable? Notice that in your example they are not posturing their Christian goodness on you, as in Detwing's example; you're drawing their Christianity out of them. Two different things.Well I was happy not to get stabbed on that occasion. OK, another of the Christian tests.

Attractive student type "No need for condom brizlad, if God wants me to get pregnant it will happen. " So over the few months we were seeing each other, she never allow any condoms in the apartment. She never got pregnant mainly because I always cum on her stomach, tits and / or face but there was always a chance I guess.

Detwing1
12-23-20, 21:20
I know I'm getting lucky when she says, "I'm not like those other girls. "Last time I heard that statement was in my room at the New World Hotel. An hour before she left to meet her fiancé at the airport.

Hopefully she brushed and flossed on the way to the airport, because she sure as hell didn't before leaving.

Kind of felt bad about that one and am hoping he wised up.

True story.

Sammon
12-23-20, 21:42
Last time I heard that statement was in my room at the New World Hotel. An hour before she left to meet her fianc at the airport.

Hopefully she brushed and flossed on the way to the airport, because she sure as hell didn't before leaving.

Kind of felt bad about that one and am hoping he wised up.

True story.It should not be the brushing and flossing she should be worried about. It is the white grease you put in her womb making her fiancé wonder why the white stuff is pouring out before he ejaculates.

However like many love struck men who arrive with flowers, I phones and money will not notice such trivial things. LOL.

Detwing1
12-23-20, 23:05
It should not be the brushing and flossing she should be worried about. It is the white grease you put in her womb making her fianc wonder why the white stuff is pouring out before he ejaculates.

However like many love struck men who arrive with flowers, I phones and money will not notice such trivial things. LOL.Well in this case, the white grease was in her mouth and down the hatch, absent a little dribble on the chin.

Perhaps I should have offered her a Tic Tac.

Yeah I know what you mean about the men showing up with flowers, money and iPhones.

That always gives me a chuckle.

WestCoast1
12-23-20, 23:28
Last time I heard that statement was in my room at the New World Hotel. An hour before she left to meet her fianc at the airport. Hopefully she brushed and flossed on the way to the airport, because she sure as hell didn't before leaving.


It should not be the brushing and flossing she should be worried about. It is the white grease you put in her womb making her fianc wonder why the white stuff is pouring out before he ejaculates.Bad. Both you fellas is bad.

Previously reported years ago, similar situation. A dating site contact came to my hotel in Manila (from the province) on a bus, uninvited, with her mom, tita, and sister. Tiny, skinny, booby, and pretty. I had 10 days of debauchery in mind with Burgos and LAC girls. The two older ladies had something in mind also: to leave the 19 year old with me in hopes that I'd give her p10 k so they could get their motorcycle back (gambling loss). I kept the girl for 10 days, which turned into a f*ck-fest. Not sure who was more worn down to the bone (or by it). The girl didn't speak much English verbally, she was fine writing / typing it. Not much communication in the 10 days, but lots of sex. At the end of the 10 days I gave her the prize and off she went to the province, and off I went home to my country. Or so it seemed.

A week passed, almost no communication from her. You remember YM, yes? On the following Saturday morning (phils time) she contacted me, asking for p3000 remit for a bday party. I didn't send. 48 hours later the avatar on her YM changed to a picture: herself in a wedding dress, and an older (than me by 15 years) gray-haired gent in a tux. Married! In YM chat she explained a Detwing-type story to me: She had gone with me to drop me at NAIA departure, and then she went downstairs to arrivals to wait for Atlanta-guy's arrival. That's right, still dripping with my seed, at the airport she was on her way to pick up foreigner #2. They spent the better part of the week making wedding plans, and got married on Saturday evening (when she'd asked me for money in YM). No honeymoon to speak of, they slept at his hotel. He was impotent, no sex, although she tried. A day or so later, he flew home, promising to bring her to Georgia.

The next few months went to hell for her. He told her that he could not bear to tell his fam what he'd done or where he'd been. No Atlanta for you, sweetie. He stopped chatting her. One of her last YM messages to me: "Westy when you coming Manila next? I miss you".

Detwing1
12-24-20, 18:19
Bad. Both you fellas is bad.

Previously reported years ago, similar situation. A dating site contact came to my hotel in Manila (from the province) on a bus, uninvited, with her mom, tita, and sister. Tiny, skinny, booby, and pretty. I had 10 days of debauchery in mind with Burgos and LAC girls. The two older ladies had something in mind also: to leave the 19 year old with me in hopes that I'd give her p10 k so they could get their motorcycle back (gambling loss). I kept the girl for 10 days, which turned into a f*ck-fest. Not sure who was more worn down to the bone (or by it). The girl didn't speak much English verbally, she was fine writing / typing it. Not much communication in the 10 days, but lots of sex. At the end of the 10 days I gave her the prize and off she went to the province, and off I went home to my country. Or so it seemed.

A week passed, almost no communication from her. You remember YM, yes? On the following Saturday morning (phils time) she contacted me, asking for p3000 remit for a bday party. I didn't send. 48 hours later the avatar on her YM changed to a picture: herself in a wedding dress, and an older (than me by 15 years) gray-haired gent in a tux. Married! In YM chat she explained a Detwing-type story to me: She had gone with me to drop me at NAIA departure, and then she went downstairs to arrivals to wait for Atlanta-guy's arrival. That's right, still dripping with my seed, at the airport she was on her way to pick up foreigner #2. They spent the better part of the week making wedding plans, and got married on Saturday evening (when she'd asked me for money in YM). No honeymoon to speak of, they slept at his hotel. He was impotent, no sex, although she tried. A day or so later, he flew home, promising to bring her to Georgia.

The next few months went to hell for her. He told her that he could not bear to tell his fam what he'd done or where he'd been. No Atlanta for you, sweetie. He stopped chatting her. One of her last YM messages to me: "Westy when you coming Manila next? I miss you".Ha!! At least they're consistent!!

The really strange thing is that later in the evening, while trolling Greenbelt, I saw those two having a romantic evening at Tapellas, where she actually waved me over to introduce her fiancé. Yes, she actually did that. Obviously this is the short version of a much longer story, but nonetheless, keeping a straight face presented a unique challenge. Couldn't get away from that table fast enough.

She was a good Catholic girl. Marriage material.

BrizLad
12-26-20, 10:29
She was a good Catholic girl. Marriage material.Like many others here, I've been to the wedding of a former WG freelancer flame. New hubby seemed happy with such a beautiful woman. Wedding was in AC of all places.

Detwing1
12-26-20, 17:25
Like many others here, I've been to the wedding of a former WG freelancer flame. New hubby seemed happy with such a beautiful woman. Wedding was in AC of all places.You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl.

In this girl's case, insert casino in place of bar.

Pinaypounder
12-27-20, 23:03
While transiting to the Phils one trip I was oddly going through old emails. Found one chock full of suggestive pics from a saint in Cebu. So I sent a hey how are you email.

We met for breakfast one day her in her to short shorts and she was a short little 7 with a good rack. I knew quickly that sex would be had.

After the first couple of encounters, I like repeats personally because 99% of the time the sex is better, she hears her phone ring and we have to stop fucking and she asks me, pleads with me to be quiet. I play along. Most of the time I can tell the good ones from the bad ones. As I laid there I watched an Academy Award winning performance and later learned it was the Fianceee she had a ring and everything. You should have noted that many filipinas wear a ring on their wedding ring finger with no significance.

So we discuss it. Later that day another call more "coitus interrupts" and it was the Boyfriend. The fiancee was from Australia the BF was from the US and the cock in her was Canadian. She was truly an international player. I stopped nailing her after she informed me she was "falling" for me. OMG they have such big hearts and tiny cunts.

She was oddly proud of the money she wasted on shoes and phones and she literally had nothing after having received millions of pesos from stupid western men. She felt empowered that she could extract money from men, but other than pay for a few meals she got nothing from me. For many of these women it is their JOB, a full time Job to separate men from their money which is why I always ask what their work is. For her it was all about being seen with things that were given to her. She was not even that bright obviously.

If a woman lives alone with no job then do tell where the $$$ comes from? My 2nd question is with whom do you live. Pretty easy to learn who the "bad" girls are. IF you are not that smart to do a similar basic investigation then please email me I have some beachfront property for sale.

Before parting ways she told me a story about another American she was betroved to who sent her 30 k a week (a decade ago) and only visited 2 weeks a year. AND she cheated on him during one of these 2 week periods and lost her 30 K a week.

There are indeed some proper Filipinas (lots of them that are sincerely good women lots of 30+ virgins) and I think most of us can recognize them and us Mongerers should leave them alone for play purposes but too many men are unable to recognize the other set. I too have been fooled / deceived but my money always remained safe. I have wanted to marry 3 of them that all ended up cheating on me.

Send money if you wish, often it will help someone but don't expect a return on your investment and unless you are truly courting a proper good girl then 85% chance they are lying to you and if you are lying to them well then what can you say?

A fool and his money are.

PP.

BrizLad
01-10-21, 03:14
Send money if you wish, often it will help someone but don't expect a return on your investment and unless you are truly courting a proper good girl then 85% chance they are lying to you and if you are lying to them well then what can you say?

A fool and his money are.

PP.It's probably the new year resolutions but I found myself back on Pinalove last week, ostensibly to see if my ex was desperate for money and trolling the pampanga pages, She wasn't so I can safely assume the Korean dude is still paying for her and her family.

Fairly quickly though I did find myself chatting to a few interesting candidates.

A. A Cebu city law student 25, certainly knows her laws and intensely interesting. Would be worthwhile meeting her but it would take a couple of meets to get her into bed, although she is a flirt.

Be. Makati degree qualified therapist 24. Single, no kids, living alone, works fulltime.

See. Angeles city 22 year old hottie. Single, no kids, undamaged body. Loves sending videos of her smooth pussy.

Without the practicality of having to travel to the different cities. It's easy to find some good ones. Usually I'm focusing on just the city I will be visiting.

What my few days did identify is that, as before, the online dating sites are only needed to commence for the few days before the trip. Maximum one week I think.

Sadly as lovely as these three girls are I'm going to have to just tell them I won't waste their (my!) time by chatting them until I've landed in Ph sometime in the future.

In the spirit of adventure I did flick the Angeles girl P1 k and she certainly delivered good value for a guy stuck home in a lockdown.

Happy days.

BL.

Goferring
01-11-21, 21:53
What my few days did identify is that, as before, the online dating sites are only needed to commence for the few days before the trip. Maximum one week I think.

Sadly as lovely as these three girls are I'm going to have to just tell them I won't waste their (my!) time by chatting them until I've landed in Ph sometime in the future....

BL.Some would argue that there is no need to make any contact until you are physically in town. I've been 0 for 100 with preplanned numbers and meetings but had great times with 2 to 36 hours notice in the same trip.

This is a good tactic: it prevents 2 years of inane whatsapp chatter until you can actually make it, you don't receive an endless stream of school fee or sick uncle funding requests, it shows the girls that you do actually intend to arrive and are not using chat just to request nudes or camsex.

Don't forget that pinas have zero forward planning. Once you are there, across the table at JollieBee, you will jump the queue ahead of all the promises and even remittances from overseas hopefuls.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
01-11-21, 23:24
She was oddly proud of the money she wasted on shoes and phones and she literally had nothing after having received millions of pesos from stupid western men. She felt empowered that she could extract money from men, but other than pay for a few meals she got nothing from me. For many of these women it is their JOB, a full time Job to separate men from their money which is why I always ask what their work is. For her it was all about being seen with things that were given to her. She was not even that bright obviously.

PP.It's always amazed me how quickly the busy girls can accumulate and then burn through cash. I've seen many girls dripping with jewellery, designer clothes etc only to be flat broke within a week or two of a lost benefactor or when age catches up and the younger girls take over.

Drbombay
01-12-21, 03:18
It's always amazed me how quickly the busy girls can accumulate and then burn through cash. I've seen many girls dripping with jewellery, designer clothes etc only to be flat broke within a week or two of a lost benefactor or when age catches up and the younger girls take over.It's not just a Pinay trait of bad planning but a lot of women working in this industry from all across Asia are similar. I was seeing a young Japanese lady in Japan a few years ago who was an escort. Very good looking and was making top dollar from her clients. She had such folks as top business executives and foreigners who would talk to her and give her tips on what to do with her money. I was still on her "off work side" of life and able to get a visit now and then for free and told her she needed to take the info she gets from them and make stock investments. What did she do? Waste it on plastic surgery from boob job, lips and cheeks (made her look like the Joker with that smile) and leg extensions and very high end clothes and shoes.

Years later, saw her walking the streets in the town we first met and she was looking worn. Long story short, the high life came with a cost in liver disease from all of the drinking, without makeup those plastic surgeries looked horrible, and of course I got the "I should have listened to you" and "when I think of having a family I want it to be with you. " By that time I had moved on. So sad to see that happen.

Sammon
01-12-21, 04:39
It's always amazed me how quickly the busy girls can accumulate and then burn through cash. I've seen many girls dripping with jewellery, designer clothes etc only to be flat broke within a week or two of a lost benefactor or when age catches up and the younger girls take over.I know some pretty girls in Angeles ruin their life. One very pretty girl was offered marriage to USA guy. I told her to marry but she declined. Fast forward few years she has no money, couple of kids with locals and could not even get barfines.

Likewise few other girls thought they will be in high demand with never ending money flow only to see it become parched desert.

Very few invested in property, house and saved and retired in the province.

Goferring
01-12-21, 08:33
Years later, saw her walking the streets in the town we first met and she was looking worn. Long story short, the high life came with a cost in liver disease from all of the drinking...There are crazy, burnt out, alcohol and shabu fiends living on the beach in a couple of towns I frequent. Without exception the older girls all say that these were once the prettiest girls in town, constantly with the highest roller customers.

Unfortunately, it's a common story.

PedroMorales
01-12-21, 13:52
Waste it on plastic surgery from boob job, lips and cheeks (made her look like the Joker with that smile) and leg extensions and very high end clothes and shoes.What are leg extensions?

I take it this is not the gym exercise.

Drbombay
01-12-21, 17:29
What are leg extensions?

I take it this is not the gym exercise.No nor going to gym at all. She was a short lady and had the typical Japanese woman bowed legs. So she went to a doctor and had some type of extensions put in her legs to uncurve them and lengthen just a little. Not an easy process and she was laid up for some time but she figured it was worth it (at the time).

BrizLad
01-13-21, 23:08
What did she do? Waste it on plastic surgery from boob job, lips and cheeks (made her look like the Joker with that smile) and leg extensions and very high end clothes and shoes.
Had a similar with a euro girl I met last year. She told me a story of how she had been given a loan to make an investment. Investment opportunity fell through and rather than repay the loan she got a boob job.

Her boobs were amazing.

Chocha Monger
01-14-21, 03:45
It's always amazed me how quickly the busy girls can accumulate and then burn through cash. I've seen many girls dripping with jewellery, designer clothes etc only to be flat broke within a week or two of a lost benefactor or when age catches up and the younger girls take over.Do not waste your money trying to finance Pinay hookers out of poverty. Instead, buy yourself a penile implant. Your marshmallow will thank you for it, unlike the Pinay hookers.

Engine Driver
01-15-21, 01:24
When you are cruising the dating sites and see photos of girls in bikinis at the beach or at a resort or fully clothed in a hotel room, then they have obviously been with another foreign monger. 100% guaranteed. The vast majority of girls on dating sites are just too poor to go anywhere on vacation or to stay in a hotel, unless a monger is paying the bill. If questioned, they will say they went on vacation with their family and have never met a monger before. When they can't afford 200 peso for phone load, they are not paying 7,000 peso a night for a room at the Shangri La. Hahahaha.

All girls are chatting with numerous mongers simultaneously and all have received remittances from abroad at some stage. They know the WU pick up procedure better than most mongers. If they say that you're the only one they are chatting to, then that's a lie. Hahahaha.

The number 1 reason they are on dating sites is to extract small amounts of money from gullible mongers to cover daily living expenses. Rent, utility bills, phone load, sacks of rice or the fuckin' ubiquitous birthday party. They know that if they spin a sob story to 30 mongers a day, complete with crying emojis, at least one will feel sorry for them and send them 2,000 peso. That's more than they can earn in a week waiting tables or making widgets in a factory. It's just a numbers game and they can play it better than you.

The number 2 reason is to hook a fat whale who will take them abroad to RWML where the chick and her relatives can leach off said whale for the next 10 years. He will be depleted of all his assets. But they understand that this is a very, very remote possibility. Most go on dating sites at the insistence of their BFFs who have all apparently struck it rich. Hahaha.

It's your money and you're free to do whatever you want with it, but you will get zero return on any investment you make now. Pinays will not show you any gratitude and will not remember your good deed. It's just not in their genes. However, not contributing now does not diminish the possibility of fucking them in the future. Once you get to your hotel in Shitsville, send them a message and they will come and fuck BBFSCIP if they need cash. No need to start sending money now.

If you feel like throwing money away, it is more satisfying climbing to the top of the tallest bridge or building in your home city and dropping your crisp notes from there. At least a more worthy human might pick up the notes as they flutter to the ground.

Goferring
01-15-21, 07:29
When you are cruising the dating sites and see photos of girls in bikinis at the beach or at a resort or fully clothed in a hotel room, then they have obviously been with another foreign monger. 100% guaranteed. The vast majority of girls on dating sites are just too poor to go anywhere on vacation or to stay in a hotel, unless a monger is paying the bill. If questioned, they will say they went on vacation with their family and have never met a monger before. When they can't afford 200 peso for phone load, they are not paying 7,000 peso a night for a room at the Shangri La. Hahahaha.

All girls are chatting with numerous mongers simultaneously and all have received remittances from abroad at some stage. They know the WU pick up procedure better than most mongers. If they say that you're the only one they are chatting to, then that's a lie. Hahahaha.

The number 1 reason they are on dating sites is to extract small amounts of money from gullible mongers to cover daily living expenses. Rent, utility bills, phone load, sacks of rice or the fuckin' ubiquitous birthday party. They know that if they spin a sob story to 30 mongers a day, complete with crying emojis, at least one will feel sorry for them and send them 2,000 peso. That's more than they can earn in a week waiting tables or making widgets in a factory. It's just a numbers game and they can play it better than you.

The number 2 reason is to hook a fat whale who will take them abroad to RWML where the chick and her relatives can leach off said whale for the next 10 years. He will be depleted of all his assets. But they understand that this is a very, very remote possibility. Most go on dating sites at the insistence of their BFFs who have all apparently struck it rich. Hahaha.

It's your money and you're free to do whatever you want with it, but you will get zero return on any investment you make now. Pinays will not show you any gratitude and will not remember your good deed. It's just not in their genes. However, not contributing now does not diminish the possibility of fucking them in the future. Once you get to your hotel in Shitsville, send them a message and they will come and fuck BBFSCIP if they need cash. No need to start sending money now.

If you feel like throwing money away, it is more satisfying climbing to the top of the tallest bridge or building in your home city and dropping your crisp notes from there. At least a more worthy human might pick up the notes as they flutter to the ground.You're correct but I don't think you tell the full story. I think the lockdown has brought out many girls who don't fit the traditional mold of poor girl seeking a white whale. I've posted here before of the affect on models and promo girls who have seen their jobs and income disappear along with the 1500 p bar girls. I've come across several who spoke perfect English, could hold a honest conversation and who had travel snaps of packs of girls on holiday rather than a sole hooker on the beach. Numerous drop dead stunners have returned to mum in the province. I doubt there is a lot of model gigs in Bacolod. Most are smart enough to play the long game and look for ongoing sponsorship or a ring rather than 500 p of load.

While the hard core will be online litterally all day, several clearly have shit to do and will chat on and off throughout the day in 10 to 30 minute increments. This is easy to confirm though their WhatsApp activity.

You're right about it being a numbers game. 1 of 1000 sending 500 p every day is still a good income when the lookers get '000's of messages per day. Similarly everyone has a cousin in Sydney, Washington or Vancouver. I'm sure those cousins are talking up the promised land.

I've shown time and again that there is no animosity when arriving after not sending money. A bag of marshmallows in the hand is quickly swallowed.

I'm not sure that any work put in has no return. Like the girls, if a monger arrived with numbers and only some come to fruition, that's a benefit to him.

Cheers. G.

Drbombay
01-15-21, 08:39
When you are cruising the dating sites and see photos of girls in bikinis at the beach or at a resort or fully clothed in a hotel room, then they have obviously been with another foreign monger. 100% guaranteed. The vast majority of girls on dating sites are just too poor to go anywhere on vacation or to stay in a hotel, unless a monger is paying the bill. If questioned, they will say they went on vacation with their family and have never met a monger before. When they can't afford 200 peso for phone load, they are not paying 7,000 peso a night for a room at the Shangri La. Hahahaha.

All girls are chatting with numerous mongers simultaneously and all have received remittances from abroad at some stage. They know the WU pick up procedure better than most mongers. If they say that you're the only one they are chatting to, then that's a lie. Hahahaha.

The number 1 reason they are on dating sites is to extract small amounts of money from gullible mongers to cover daily living expenses. Rent, utility bills, phone load, sacks of rice or the fuckin' ubiquitous birthday party. They know that if they spin a sob story to 30 mongers a day, complete with crying emojis, at least one will feel sorry for them and send them 2,000 peso. That's more than they can earn in a week waiting tables or making widgets in a factory. It's just a numbers game and they can play it better than you.

The number 2 reason is to hook a fat whale who will take them abroad to RWML where the chick and her relatives can leach off said whale for the next 10 years. He will be depleted of all his assets. But they understand that this is a very, very remote possibility. Most go on dating sites at the insistence of their BFFs who have all apparently struck it rich. Hahaha.

It's your money and you're free to do whatever you want with it, but you will get zero return on any investment you make now. Pinays will not show you any gratitude and will not remember your good deed. It's just not in their genes. However, not contributing now does not diminish the possibility of fucking them in the future. Once you get to your hotel in Shitsville, send them a message and they will come and fuck BBFSCIP if they need cash. No need to start sending money now.

If you feel like throwing money away, it is more satisfying climbing to the top of the tallest bridge or building in your home city and dropping your crisp notes from there. At least a more worthy human might pick up the notes as they flutter to the ground.You are spot on in your assessment! I tend to agree with 95% of what you say, but there may be a small sliver of some that are 40% honest and willing to work with someone. But you are 100% correct on the hotel / vacation piece. I did meet one who was supposedly an office worker but was there chatting for social reasons, but if you kept talking with her the "inner" hustler would eventually come out.

In the end, it's all the same. If you aren't doing it online with them, even when you make a trip there you are only there for a week out of 365 days a year. So they are going to be doing something while you are not there or even while you are there and you call yourself hitting a side piece while they are doing the same thing.

Breadman
01-15-21, 17:20
I'm looking for cities that falls under these conditions or close to them: A city where it would be possible to live on or close to the beach and enjoy that aspect of living in the Philippines. Also close to somewhat of a major city with at least one decent mall that would allow for shopping, ATM's and the like. Also enough public transportation be it trikes or jeepneys. Without an over abundance of traffic and also close to an airport that would make it easy to connect to flights going outside the country. I'd love to wake up and be able to walk out to the beach with my coffee but still be close enough to civilization to enjoy life. Its pretty obvious the larger cites have the women and the apartment living lifestyle with the malls and the traffic and the beaches can be reached in an hour or two drive.

Dumaguete has many of these but heavy traffic and poor beaches. Panglao Island seems to have everything but the mall.

Goferring
01-15-21, 22:21
I'm looking for cities that falls under these conditions or close to them: Mactan, Lapu, Batangas, Davao, Surigao??

Wicked Roger
01-15-21, 22:40
Mactan, Lapu, Batangas, Davao, Surigao??Traffic in Mactan and Lapu is terrible. Cebu traffic has got much worse in the intervening years. Surigao I don't think has a decent mall (if any).

But I like Cebu as has all you need plus beaches can be driven to not walked to. If you like Cebu area try Danao, Bogo, Carmen as the latter has a good marina and maybe find a boar to live on instead. Just the mall is 45 ins away and driving from Carmen to Ayala can be frustrating. Depends what is more important (beach or mall or semi city living).

Kabul Guy
01-15-21, 22:49
You are spot on in your assessment! I tend to agree with 95% of what you say, but there may be a small sliver of some that are 40% honest and willing to work with someone. But you are 100% correct on the hotel / vacation piece. I did meet one who was supposedly an office worker but was there chatting for social reasons, but if you kept talking with her the "inner" hustler would eventually come out.

In the end, it's all the same. If you aren't doing it online with them, even when you make a trip there you are only there for a week out of 365 days a year. So they are going to be doing something while you are not there or even while you are there and you call yourself hitting a side piece while they are doing the same thing.Everyone here has some sort of side hassle going.

Shortly after I landed here we had a reunion of many of the guys I had worked with before. Two of them tried a side hustle on me. These are guys that I worked with for years and spent many hours in bunkers sitting beside them.

The grinding poverty, lack of any social safety net other than family means they are all looking for some security through a side hustle because they cannot be assured that they will make it even those with a professional background. (engineers not working girls LOL).

Dg8787
01-16-21, 00:00
Everyone here has some sort of side hassle going.

Shortly after I landed here we had a reunion of many of the guys I had worked with before. Two of them tried a side hustle on me. These are guys that I worked with for years and spent many hours in bunkers sitting beside them.

The grinding poverty, lack of any social safety net other than family means they are all looking for some security through a side hustle because they cannot be assured that they will make it even those with a professional background. (engineers not working girls LOL).Side hustle? Amway? Scamway?

Sammon
01-16-21, 14:42
I'm looking for cities that falls under these conditions or close to them: A city where it would be possible to live on or close to the beach and enjoy that aspect of living in the Philippines. Also close to somewhat of a major city with at least one decent mall that would allow for shopping, ATM's and the like. Also enough public transportation be it trikes or jeepneys. Without an over abundance of traffic and also close to an airport that would make it easy to connect to flights going outside the country. I'd love to wake up and be able to walk out to the beach with my coffee but still be close enough to civilization to enjoy life. Its pretty obvious the larger cites have the women and the apartment living lifestyle with the malls and the traffic and the beaches can be reached in an hour or two drive.

Dumaguete has many of these but heavy traffic and poor beaches. Panglao Island seems to have everything but the mall.As a foreigner you would want to live close to a city if you continue the hobby of mongering. Do not want nosy neighbors which will happen if you live outside in the country. Also you do not want to be a target because of Philippine mindset of all foreigners are rich.

Philippines is group of islands and beaches are everywhere. You are better off living in an apartment with security rather than single house. Also being around cities will give you opportunity to catch a plane faster.

Breadman
01-16-21, 21:03
Mactan, Lapu, Batangas, Davao, Surigao??I was thinking of Davao but was warned not to go there by a Filipino, said its safe but foreigners do get targeted even there. Also saw a youtube channel on Cagayan de Oro but that falls under the same warning as Davaos. Surigao doesn't seem to have any major malls but might still work. I was looking at Batangas, ferry ride would put you right on some nice beaches in Puerto Galera and they have a decent mall. Only issue would be the ride to the Manila airport if one wanted to do some traveling. Oddly Roxas city might be an option, airport is right near the beach and some nice size malls with some cheap flights to the Manila airport.

Now it would be hard to just give up the hobby cold turkey but if I found the right one with looks, attitude and a small family who knows what might happen.

MamaGuevos
01-16-21, 22:10
I'm looking for cities that falls under these conditions or close to them: A city where it would be possible to live on or close to the beach and enjoy that aspect of living in the Philippines. Also close to somewhat of a major city with at least one decent mall that would allow for shopping, ATM's and the like. Also enough public transportation be it trikes or jeepneys. Without an over abundance of traffic and also close to an airport that would make it easy to connect to flights going outside the country. I'd love to wake up and be able to walk out to the beach with my coffee but still be close enough to civilization to enjoy life. Its pretty obvious the larger cites have the women and the apartment living lifestyle with the malls and the traffic and the beaches can be reached in an hour or two drive.

Dumaguete has many of these but heavy traffic and poor beaches. Panglao Island seems to have everything but the mall.I remember reading once that Panglao Island had issues with terrorists (kidnappings). It was about 3 years ago, but terrorist attacks are infrequent in the Philippines so (paradoxically) a three year interval would not make me feel comfortable.

Goferring
01-16-21, 22:57
Traffic in Mactan and Lapu is terrible. Cebu traffic has got much worse in the intervening years....Fair call. I guess traffic never crossed my radar as I always stay walking distance to whatever I want to see and do.

There is a lot to be said for paying a little extra for location. I've found ground transport a PITA everywhere in PI.

Cheers. G.

GoodEnough
01-17-21, 04:18
I was thinking of Davao but was warned not to go there by a Filipino, said its safe but foreigners do get targeted even there. Also saw a youtube channel on Cagayan de Oro but that falls under the same warning as Davaos. Surigao doesn't seem to have any major malls but might still work. I was looking at Batangas, ferry ride would put you right on some nice beaches in Puerto Galera and they have a decent mall. Only issue would be the ride to the Manila airport if one wanted to do some traveling. Oddly Roxas city might be an option, airport is right near the beach and some nice size malls with some cheap flights to the Manila airport.

Now it would be hard to just give up the hobby cold turkey but if I found the right one with looks, attitude and a small family who knows what might happen.Having lived in Davao for almost 20 years, I would urge you to disregard whatever you were told, as it's pretty much nonsense. I encourage you to come here yourself, make your own assessment and then determine if it meets your criteria. In all the years I've spent here, I've felt totally safe in being out at all hours and in any area of the city. I would say much the same about CDO as I have friends who live there quite happily and I've visited the city often.

GE.

Goferring
01-17-21, 07:09
Having lived in Davao for almost 20 years, I would urge you to disregard whatever you were told, as it's pretty much nonsense. I encourage you to come here yourself, make your own assessment and then determine if it meets your criteria. In all the years I've spent here, I've felt totally safe in being out at all hours and in any area of the city. I would say much the same about CDO as I have friends who live there quite happily and I've visited the city often.

GE.GE. Get with the program. 😁.

Davao is incredibly unsafe with foreigner abductions and beheadings a common occurance. Luckily the girls are so ugly that it's not a great loss to avoid the place altogether.

If we maintain this story, visitor numbers will remain low and the girls welcoming. 😊.

Cheers. G.

D Cups
01-17-21, 13:14
Had a similar with a euro girl I met last year. She told me a story of how she had been given a loan to make an investment. Investment opportunity fell through and rather than repay the loan she got a boob job.

Her boobs were amazing.What size were they?

Breadman
01-17-21, 14:13
Fair call. I guess traffic never crossed my radar as I always stay walking distance to whatever I want to see and do.

There is a lot to be said for paying a little extra for location. I've found ground transport a PITA everywhere in PI.

Cheers. G.I'm considering this as well, find a place that has everything you need within walking distance or a short cab ride. What you pay extra in location you save on transportation costs in the long run.


Having lived in Davao for almost 20 years, I would urge you to disregard whatever you were told, as it's pretty much nonsense. I encourage you to come here yourself, make your own assessment and then determine if it meets your criteria. In all the years I've spent here, I've felt totally safe in being out at all hours and in any area of the city. I would say much the same about CDO as I have friends who live there quite happily and I've visited the city often.

GE.Point taken. Just repeating what I was told although she didn't mention beheadings but that's just a side hobby of Goferring. There is truth that some people can blend into crowds better than others. Shorter people with dark skin can blend in much better than tall guys with white skin. Add in all of the fat xpats to that number as well.

On another topic I saw a youtube video where the filipino stated even if you are not at fault in a fatality while driving you must make amends to the family of the person killed in said accident. True?

BrizLad
01-18-21, 02:53
I'm considering this as well, find a place that has everything you need within walking distance or a short cab ride. What you pay extra in location you save on transportation costs in the long run.For this purpose I have always like Cebu and Ayala Mall. There is a choice of hotel prices to suit most mongers. The Mall is easy walking distance and has a wide range of restaurants. The adjacent jeepney station means it is easy for girls to arrive at the mall.

Screaming Beaver
01-18-21, 03:51
Do not waste your money trying to finance Pinay hookers out of poverty. Instead, buy yourself a penile implant. Your marshmallow will thank you for it, unlike the Pinay hookers.Yes, penile implants have become quite the rage with elderly mongers still yearning for a good time. I think a Urologist who is willing to work on volume discounts should offer an ISG plan. He would make a killing!

Goferring
01-18-21, 05:48
Point taken. Just repeating what I was told although she didn't mention beheadings but that's just a side hobby of Goferring....

On another topic I saw a youtube video where the filipino stated even if you are not at fault in a fatality while driving you must make amends to the family of the person killed in said accident. True?Huuh? You did notice my smiley faces?? LOL.

If you're driving and there is an accident with a local it's going to be your fault pretty much anywhere in Asia. Especially so if the other party is poor.

Reparations to the deceased family is applicable to westerners or pinoy alike. The only difference is the number of zeros.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
01-19-21, 00:45
For this purpose I have always like Cebu and Ayala Mall. There is a choice of hotel prices to suit most mongers. The Mall is easy walking distance and has a wide range of restaurants. The adjacent jeepney station means it is easy for girls to arrive at the mall.Many Airbnb and condos to suit all types and budgets there too. A painful drive to local beaches but an easy weekend away trip to Moalboal, Alona etc.

Cheers. G.

BrizLad
01-19-21, 11:54
If you're driving and there is an accident with a local it's going to be your fault pretty much anywhere in Asia. Especially so if the other party is poor.I was a passenger in a car which got pulled over for a traffic infringement in AC and as they police had seen the guy had a paying westerner pax the expectation was that I would be paying the drivers fine. I picked up my bag, payed the guy his P250 fare from DMIA and walked over to a jeepney. I assume this fine was a lot less then.

Goferring
01-19-21, 22:17
I was a passenger in a car which got pulled over for a traffic infringement in AC and as they police had seen the guy had a paying westerner pax the expectation was that I would be paying the drivers fine. I picked up my bag, payed the guy his P250 fare from DMIA and walked over to a jeepney. I assume this fine was a lot less then.I just sit there and look stupid. I'm good at that. 😁.

Kabul Guy
01-22-21, 21:11
I just sit there and look stupid. I'm good at that. 😁.I call that doing my dumb white guy act. Once had a group of Indian nationals in stitches demonstrating how I avoided bribes at the airport. LOL.

Nightrider1
01-24-21, 12:05
I have been chatting with a college educated 24 yr old Cebu girl for a few months now. Just trying to keep my marshmallow interested until such time I can be there. Yesterday I mentioned that Feb 11 I will be vaccinated. Her response back was " vaccinated for what dear? ". I do enjoy their simple lifestyle but sometimes I wonder. In the same vein a few years back I was telling a chatmate how hot the sun was on a particular day at my house. She said the sun they have in Davao is much hotter. I told her its the same sun for all the world. She really did not believe me.

MohdirFan82
01-24-21, 17:29
I have been visiting the Philippines for the past 15 years, and I kept a strict buffet only policy. All you can eat but never take-out, Filipinas perform best in their own land, and I seen dozens of sad stories of Filipinas come to US and they gain weight and become lazy. Many Filipina have very kind and soft hard towards their family back home and they themselves become ATM machines.

Enjoy the buffet my friends, and remember to never takeout.

PedroMorales
01-24-21, 18:45
I have been chatting with a college educated 24 yr old Cebu girl for a few months now. Just trying to keep my marshmallow interested until such time I can be there. Yesterday I mentioned that Feb 11 I will be vaccinated. Her response back was " vaccinated for what dear? ". I do enjoy their simple lifestyle but sometimes I wonder. In the same vein a few years back I was telling a chatmate how hot the sun was on a particular day at my house. She said the sun they have in Davao is much hotter. I told her its the same sun for all the world. She really did not believe me.She is right. There are many different suns, too numerous to count. I hate to break it to you but all those women are geniuses with post graduate degrees from the world's leading universities. It is a running joke that has got out of hand. We act stupid as a joke against the white marshmallows, who cannot FK to save yourselves. The Japanese and Koreans are in on it. I am a trike driving godfather. I take a percentage of all the loot you send and I send some of it to a NYNY hottie who has a sick buffalo and a bad case of herpes.

Your generous donations keep Davao as the number one wine destination in the world. Those crates of wine and caviar cost big bucks and top Italian and French fashions don't come cheap either. Keep the money coming. Keep believing there is one one sun and that it shines out of your ass. And keep sending the dough.

Sammon
01-24-21, 19:31
I have been chatting with a college educated 24 yr old Cebu girl for a few months now. Just trying to keep my marshmallow interested until such time I can be there. Yesterday I mentioned that Feb 11 I will be vaccinated. Her response back was " vaccinated for what dear? ". I do enjoy their simple lifestyle but sometimes I wonder. In the same vein a few years back I was telling a chatmate how hot the sun was on a particular day at my house. She said the sun they have in Davao is much hotter. I told her its the same sun for all the world. She really did not believe me.There is no need to make fun of Philippine girl intelligence. All they require is enough intelligence to navigate their life considering quality of their education. Besides English is an alien language despite their education in English. They prefer their local language if you ever wondered why the use it when they talk to their own people without a word of English thrown in.

We do not go to Philippines to marvel at their intelligence. We are lucky that we get them for sex. Little compassion will go a long way. If they do not get your wit just simply explain if you care to otherwise leave it alone.

Dg8787
01-24-21, 20:16
I have been chatting with a college educated 24 yr old Cebu girl for a few months now. Just trying to keep my marshmallow interested until such time I can be there. Yesterday I mentioned that Feb 11 I will be vaccinated. Her response back was " vaccinated for what dear? ". I do enjoy their simple lifestyle but sometimes I wonder. In the same vein a few years back I was telling a chatmate how hot the sun was on a particular day at my house. She said the sun they have in Davao is much hotter. I told her its the same sun for all the world. She really did not believe me.I have found when westerners develop marshmallows that they tend to stiffen their marshmallow brains with superiority over pinays. What will you be getting vaccinated for on February 11? BTW, the sun is hotter closer to the equator. I will guess that Davao is closer to the equator than your house.

Take you lunch sir.

Mr Enternational
01-24-21, 21:19
I have been chatting with a college educated 24 yr old Cebu girl for a few months now. Just trying to keep my marshmallow interested until such time I can be there. Yesterday I mentioned that Feb 11 I will be vaccinated. Her response back was " vaccinated for what dear? ". I do enjoy their simple lifestyle but sometimes I wonder. In the same vein a few years back I was telling a chatmate how hot the sun was on a particular day at my house. She said the sun they have in Davao is much hotter. I told her its the same sun for all the world. She really did not believe me.I was in London and my boy told me had to get his money out of his boot. I was watching for him to take his shoe off, but he opened the back of his car and got his wallet out of his bag.

By sun I think she meant temperature. She probably told her friends about this foreign guy she has been chatting with that is a real dumbass for thinking the entire world has the same temperature. Helps to learn different cultures' way of using words in particular languages when you travel or deal with people across cultures.

And how the hell would she know what you were going to get vaccinated for? I always tell chicks to just ask instead of trying to guess at shit assuming you know and be wrong.

On facebook I recently caught up with a Brazilian chick I used to mess with years ago. I told her to hit me on whatsapp. After 2 weeks nothing. I kept sending her messages on facebook and she did not answer. Finally last night she answered. She had wrongly assumed that the facebook cover picture I have was my wife and kids when it is my daughter and grandkids so she was not responding.

Goferring
01-25-21, 00:05
There is no need to make fun of Philippine girl intelligence....Have a look at which way the cash flows then tell me who the "dumb" one is. Lol

Cheers. G.

BrizLad
01-26-21, 02:21
A. A Cebu city law student 25, certainly knows her laws and intensely interesting. Would be worthwhile meeting her but it would take a couple of meets to get her into bed, although she is a flirt.

B. Makati degree qualified therapist 24. Single, no kids, living alone, works fulltime.

C. Angeles city 22 year old hottie. Single, no kids, undamaged body. Loves sending videos of her smooth pussy..I have managed to stay in contact with 1 of these 3.

The 22 yo was good fun for a while but the constant unmet demands for more money were not in the spirit of what I was seeking. She would be fun on the ground but not for long distance.

The therapist decided to dump me as I was not serious BF material. She's looking for a serious investor to help in her poorly directed business interests.

That leaves me with the law student. Genuinely interesting lady and motivated in the right ways. A year is a long to keep up a long distance friendship so maybe I will never get to consummate our friendship. She must feel something has changed. First two weeks no pics or video chats. Now last few morning when I wake up I find a waiting message with a pic of her in her nigtware.

SinfullyKorean
01-26-21, 18:27
Lets see those pics! LOL.


I have managed to stay in contact with 1 of these 3.

The 22 yo was good fun for a while but the constant unmet demands for more money were not in the spirit of what I was seeking. She would be fun on the ground but not for long distance.

The therapist decided to dump me as I was not serious BF material. She's looking for a serious investor to help in her poorly directed business interests.

That leaves me with the law student. Genuinely interesting lady and motivated in the right ways. A year is a long to keep up a long distance friendship so maybe I will never get to consummate our friendship. She must feel something has changed. First two weeks no pics or video chats. Now last few morning when I wake up I find a waiting message with a pic of her in her nigtware.

PedroMorales
01-26-21, 20:17
Why do you want to see pictures of people you will never meet and who are not puppies for sale in a window? I know there has been a run on toilet paper but surely your baby oil supplies are holding out.

Those enough old enough to vote want to have sex with women, not admire the jugs of jungle hookers who have had several litters of children. Here, in the civilized world (Europe), there are severe shortages of hookers due to Covid. I am having planes cancelled by the day on me and I do not know when I can fly again as it seems to be restrictions on top of restriction.

Dutch police are arresting and beating up not (off on) grannies. Germany is beginning to put dissidents into camps like they did 80 years ago when you could get an unaided erection.

You should have more respect for Pinay hookers. They are not an abstraction, except to the baby oil lot. They are sweet, educated ladies who like TV cartoons and fine wines with chicken adobo. I am not interested in looking at pictures. I want to turn them into human kebabs on my rock hard penis that can penetrate concrete.

The world is facing a disaster as mongers die from lack of hairy holes. Give up the baby oil and the dog meat. (Or maybe not as dogs are an odd affectation in the civilised world). Tell us how our penises can return to the Pinay pussy spawning grounds.


Lets see those pics! LOL.

Goferring
01-27-21, 06:23
Why do you want to see pictures of people you will never meet and who are not puppies for sale in a window? I know there has been a run on toilet paper but surely your baby oil supplies are holding out....Go easy on them PM.

I've been the card carrying champion of advising one and all to make contact online only when they are sitting in their makati love nest and not a minute before arrival. Yet, what have I been doing most days? Chatting to Nigerian warlords and 40 yo baklas on the chance that 0. 1% of them will indeed turn out to be that horny 19 yo model that desperately wants to suck my marshmallow into a carrot. And then only after the 12 to 24 months forced hibernation period.

Do as I say children, not as I do.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
01-27-21, 11:39
Just an update on the chick I've been chatting to in Iligan City for the past three months. I was really happy that this chick has a proper job, is independent and seems to have her head screwed on right, until today, that is. In typical Filipina manner, she finally hit me up for money! I was always wondering why she hadn't asked me yet, and then it happened. They will always get you. There is no way the monger can escape. Hahahaha. Seems like some sort of medical issue with her rib, and she needs to pass the medical for her health card or something to keep her job blah blah blah. Why are all Flipinas doomed to a life of misery? I was thinking about sending her $100 for one nano-second, but then I thought what would Mr E. Do? Would he fire up his lap top and send 5,000 peso straight to Western Union? What would the wily Chocha Monger do? Would he instruct his bank in Detroit to wire over 10,000 peso immediately to the Bank of Philippines in Iligan City to help out a chick he'the never met before? Hahahahaha. So that's what I did. Nothing. Now once we refuse to send money, the genuine love that Pinays have for our marshmallows suddenly evaporates and we are no longer so hansum. Now I'm certainly not in danger of getting my head chopped off by the Muslim terrorists in Marawi when I go searching for a root.

Footnote: I tried to get into her IG locked account, but she wouldn't give me permission. Red flag one. Her bio includes a Korean flag on it and some Chinese writing. Red flag two. When I asked about the Korean flag, she said she just loves everything Korean. Apparently the Chinese text is just something she used for no reason. Yeah, I'm sure she loves everything Korean. Especially three-inch Korean flavoured marshmallow. Hahahahahahaha. Just about every single girl on those dating apps has some unsavoury history. Kinda like us mongers I suppose hahahaha.

PedroMorales
01-27-21, 18:15
Back in the day, some guy called Adams gave Eve, a Pinay, his spare rib. It caused a lot of problems.

Anyone who has travelled around flea pits like SE Asia know many of these folk live at the chasm's edge. As medical bills can bankrupt Americans, why not Pinays too?

If you feel free to "sow your wild oats" IE put your dick into everything with a pulse, why should she put all her eggs in your basket? K pop is very popular and it is possible she likes K pop, K fashion and kim chee. Why not?

China? Who knows?

I have a hunch this lady will be the love of your life and you will live happily ever after if you save her career with some small help. You have thrown paradise away because of your base passions and your tight purse. Shame on you.


Just an update on the chick I've been chatting to in Iligan City for the past three months. I was really happy that this chick has a proper job, is independent and seems to have her head screwed on right, until today, that is. In typical Filipina manner, she finally hit me up for money! I was always wondering why she hadn't asked me yet, and then it happened. They will always get you. There is no way the monger can escape. Hahahaha. Seems like some sort of medical issue with her rib, and she needs to pass the medical for her health card or something to keep her job blah blah blah. Why are all Flipinas doomed to a life of misery? I was thinking about sending her $100 for one nano-second, but then I thought what would Mr E. Do? Would he fire up his lap top and send 5,000 peso straight to Western Union? What would the wily Chocha Monger do? Would he instruct his bank in Detroit to wire over 10,000 peso immediately to the Bank of Philippines in Iligan City to help out a chick he'the never met before? Hahahahaha. So that's what I did. Nothing. Now once we refuse to send money, the genuine love that Pinays have for our marshmallows suddenly evaporates and we are no longer so hansum. Now I'm certainly not in danger of getting my head chopped off by the Muslim terrorists in Marawi when I go searching for a root..

Goferring
01-27-21, 22:45
So that's what I did. Nothing. Now once we refuse to send money, the genuine love that Pinays have for our marshmallows suddenly evaporates and we are no longer so hansum. Don't worry. As crazy as pinas are they don't hold a grudge. You've actually just saved your self a year or two of meaningless chats and back pain cash requests because when you do arrive and are sitting across from her at JollieBee all will be forgotten and she will soon be giving you the best type of oral examination.

Just don't loose her contact details or chat history.

Enjoy. G.

Chocha Monger
01-28-21, 00:58
Just an update on the chick I've been chatting to in Iligan City for the past three months. I was really happy that this chick has a proper job, is independent and seems to have her head screwed on right, until today, that is. In typical Filipina manner, she finally hit me up for money! I was always wondering why she hadn't asked me yet, and then it happened. They will always get you. There is no way the monger can escape. Hahahaha. Seems like some sort of medical issue with her rib, and she needs to pass the medical for her health card or something to keep her job blah blah blah. Why are all Flipinas doomed to a life of misery? I was thinking about sending her $100 for one nano-second, but then I thought what would Mr E. Do? Would he fire up his lap top and send 5,000 peso straight to Western Union? What would the wily Chocha Monger do? Would he instruct his bank in Detroit to wire over 10,000 peso immediately to the Bank of Philippines in Iligan City to help out a chick he'the never met before? Hahahahaha. So that's what I did. Nothing. Now once we refuse to send money, the genuine love that Pinays have for our marshmallows suddenly evaporates and we are no longer so hansum. Now I'm certainly not in danger of getting my head chopped off by the Muslim terrorists in Marawi when I go searching for a root.

Footnote: I tried to get into her IG locked account, but she wouldn't give me permission. Red flag one. Her bio includes a Korean flag on it and some Chinese writing. Red flag two. When I asked about the Korean flag, she said she just loves everything Korean. Apparently the Chinese text is just something she used for no reason. Yeah, I'm sure she loves everything Korean. Especially three-inch Korean flavoured marshmallow. Hahahahahahaha. Just about every single girl on those dating apps has some unsavoury history. Kinda like us mongers I suppose hahahaha.Come now, Engine Driver! The lady clearly told you that she loves the beauty and turgidity of Korean cocks. "Up to you" she says, if you want to pay for her back rib that was fractured during hard doggy with a Korean monger. Hahaha! Money. Your money is what makes those foxy Pinays horny for a root with a foreign Quasimodo. When your money was not forthcoming, she quickly lost that loving feeling. The game was up when you requested access to her IG and she refused. She couldn't have you peeking at those naughty pics with her Korean and Chinese mongers. At least you were not duped into sending her $200 USD only to brag that it was worth it to chat such a hot babe. Hahaha!

D Cups
02-06-21, 20:15
Come now, Engine Driver! The lady clearly told you that she loves the beauty and turgidity of Korean cocks. "Up to you" she says, if you want to pay for her back rib that was fractured during hard doggy with a Korean monger. Hahaha! Money. Your money is what makes those foxy Pinays horny for a root with a foreign Quasimodo. When your money was not forthcoming, she quickly lost that loving feeling. The game was up when you requested access to her IG and she refused. She couldn't have you peeking at those naughty pics with her Korean and Chinese mongers. At least you were not duped into sending her $200 USD only to brag that it was worth it to chat such a hot babe. Hahaha!Hey ED! Why don't you learn Korean? Anyeong haseo? Riga dayo? The Illiad and the Hatashi!

Goferring
02-06-21, 22:38
Hey ED! Why don't you learn Korean? Anyeong haseo? Riga dayo? The Illiad and the Hatashi!Hahah. I know several selfprofessed good girls that speak very good Korean and Mandarin. I'm guessing it came from watching all those Kpop songs and Kungfu movies at 3,000 p a session. 😁.

Steve W
02-07-21, 00:27
Does anyone have any views on the different types of characteristics as you move around the various locations and districts of The Philippines?

I really don't have a clue about the geography of the place, but I know that ladies from Cebu refer to themselves as Cebuanans (spelling?) and Filipinas distinguish themselves from each other.

What are the distinguishing characteristics? Especially if some are more disposed to being sexually open and candid.

I know you cannot generalise, but sometimes stereotypes give you a cue for how to respond to the chat and open up the discussions.

Cheers SW.

Goferring
02-07-21, 01:39
Does anyone have any views on the different types of characteristics as you move around the various locations and districts of The Philippines?

I really don't have a clue about the geography of the place, but I know that ladies from Cebu refer to themselves as Cebuanans (spelling?) and Filipinas distinguish themselves from each other.

What are the distinguishing characteristics? Especially if some are more disposed to being sexually open and candid.

I know you cannot generalise, but sometimes stereotypes give you a cue for how to respond to the chat and open up the discussions.

Cheers SW.Broadly speaking:

Manila: mixing pot of all the provinces. Many broadminded and / or hardened girls. Many or even most that mongers will come across have had exposure to foreigners before. The prettiest working girls will follow the money and end up here.

Cebu: Online mongering capital of the Philippines. Many broadminded girls. Everything from good girls there to study to some of the filthiest hoes on the planet. Some lookers but less stunners than Manila. The further away from Cebu City the more traditional. Note that "Cebu" describes both the City and the very large province. "I'm from Cebu" could mean 5 minutes from the center of town to a 9 hour drive away.

Luzon and Lyete:. Home of the 80 lb spinners. Some come with provincial attitudes of do what ever their boyfriend asks so "no" is not in their vocab. Maybe not the most proactive nor energetic but often up for absolutely anything asked of them.

Mindanao: be aware of where is safe and not safe to visit. There are some real dangers in some areas. These areas are also the hub of online dating scams. However some areas are very safe to visit despite doomsayers. Girls are generally taller and buxom. Many true stunners. Attitudes are more provincial and many may be reluctant to be seen with a foreigner in their home town.

Beach towns: expect a few girls milling around hoping to make a few bucks off passing tourists. Some diamonds in the rough but just as many sharks preying on guys only in town for a day or two.

Enjoy. G.

George03
02-07-21, 18:57
Luzon and Lyete: Home of the 80 lb spinners. Some come with provincial attitudes of do what ever their boyfriend asks so "no" is not in their vocab. Maybe not the most proactive nor energetic but often up for absolutely anything asked of them.

I haven't made it the Luzon or Lyete yet. Also haven't given a "back door entry" in Phil yet. Sounds like I might need to get here on the next trip.

Goferring
02-08-21, 04:36
I haven't made it the Luzon or Lyete yet. Also haven't given a "back door entry" in Phil yet. Sounds like I might need to get here on the next trip.I've created a monster. 😁.

In a serious note, don't take my post as a recommendation to ride roughshot over the girls limits and wishes. Their vengeance will be swift and severe. I've always had better service from being respectful than demanding.

Any fantasy you can imagine is available in PI just not from every girl. They too have their individual likes and dislikes. For special requests and deal breakers, just discuss them before she leaves the bar or home. That saves disappoint for all parties.

Enjoy. G.

Steve W
02-10-21, 13:10
Hi everyone!

I thought I'd start to compile a newbie's top 10 experiences when chatting to Filipinas on DIA:

1. No point giving out your chat number / contact details, they will ask you to add them. I think that's a combination of they want the guy to make the first move plus they don't know how to add a contact in WhatsApp! Anyway, just get their details and initiate.

2. When they share their chat details, they can be less than helpful. For example, they will simply say that their name is Marie Garcia on Messenger, which is next to useless as there are so many profiles with that name. Just be patient and get them to share their profile picture, it's infuriating but a necessary step.

3. More important than anything else, to them, is if you have eaten or not. It's not just that they are being sweet, they seem to be totally concerned if you haven't eaten. If you're looking for sympathy, you just need to say that you didn't have time for breakfast LOL!

4. Whatever their profile likes or dislikes, you can ignore them. For example, if you are older than their preference or not a god fearing chap, don't let that hold you back. Sometimes they write reams of likes and dislikes, all to no avail.

5. They all seem to play the shy-type at first, but it doesn't take them long (a day or two) to open up. Sometimes in the first few exchanges, they turn from being a complete wallflower into a woman on heat in no time. Just be careful though, before you dive in, whatever their pics show knock off a couple of points as their pics are either a younger slimmer version of themselves or heavily filtered.

6. They are more often than not single moms and will readily share pictures of their kids upfront, I guess as an implicit statement that she comes as a package. Don't be spooked if your first video call includes saying Hi to the kiddies.

7. They go weak at the knees if you are romantic and once that happens, it's just a small step to more intimate chats. So no need to hold back for too long.

8. You'll be called baby, darling and sir. You are free to do the same. These aren't so much terms of endearment, I think, but more that's their everyday language and they chat to so many guys it's a lot easier for them to manage Can you imagine the response you would get if you call a woman "baby" in the so-called progressive world LOL!

9. Marriage seems to be the top priority, which I don't get. Surely their own experiences demonstrate that this is just too high an expectation for DIA fellas. I always make it clear that it's friends, lovers and then let's see which doesn't seem to put them off. So just be straightforward with them.

10. Without exception, you'll be asked for load, tuition fees, medical bills, money for food, rent. Basically they will tap whatever they can from you. Don't be surprised if you discover that it's their birthday coming up. Gifting is a big part of your cultural obligation.

On the whole, without the physicality of being able to visit Phil, it can get a little tedious as they all seem to follow the same pattern. I guess the more sophisticated Filipinas are either not fishing in DIA nor interested in some Johnny foreigner. YMMV of course.

Before I get attacked by the culture police, I'd like to add that I have met Filipinas that are the complete package. Smart, fun and sexy. But just not on DIA.

It would be great to hear the experience of others and YMMV of course.

Happy chatting all!

D Cups
02-10-21, 15:23
Steve W,

This is an excellent list of observations, Steve W. All newbies should be so astute! I got kicked off DIA many moons ago for reasons unknown,. Probably something I said about lady boys. Been on Filipina Cupid since then and it's a similar modus operandi. About the only thing I can add is in city vs. Country girls the proclivities are even more pronounced. The shy, sweet province girls seems to be the best (however self- defined) and simpleness is their national sport (followed by beauty pageants, boxing and basketball) for better or worse. Yet they are not without ambition. Just no plan on how to achieve it except "marry up". It is a trade-off for the older monger who desires the arm candy without the equivalent brain power which is both a blessing and a curse. I met and dated quite a few Asian and Hispanic beauties over the last 18 years on both DIA and FC (also Dominican and Colombian Cupid). Yet my current beau I met by chance just walking down the side of the road in a small town in South Cebu. She doesn't even realize how beautiful and desirable she is. Her cuteness and 36 Cee tits on a small frame are the envy of most all lesser-endowed lasses but she is mostly unaware of that. She is quite naive on how to use them to please her man so it has become my life mission to teach her. People will criticize me for the age difference (46 years) but that is just jealousy times ten. Bang as many beauties as you can and enjoy the ride! If one "clicks" see where it goes! It is certainly the better option given the obesity and feminazism of Western whales. Cheers!

Albert9989
02-10-21, 19:36
Agreed with Steve, good description on what happens through DIA.

But. After using it since many years, almost 6 I guess, never banned and never got any remark from admin, but here I got one.

Usually I say Hi, or she say Hi, and after 2 msgs, I ask are you on messenger, usual answer is yes. So need to ask which name, then which profile pic, etc. But normal.

Here, I did the same and I saw a big yellow message saying that it was a warning because I asked too quickly to switch to another chat tool, and if this was to happen often it could have an impact on my usage of DIA.

I guess the girl was also warned because she never came on messenger, she just accept me and never chatted.

So, now, that very different, I don't like chatting in DIA and if I can't ask quickly to switch on something else, would be an issue.

Goferring
02-10-21, 22:05
10. Without exception, you'll be asked for load....I haven't followed up but expect there is some way for the girls to resell load or convert it to cash. You're correct: they all ask for load. For what ever reason they often get angry when told that I don't send cash saying they need load not cash. They definitely make a distinction.

I'm guessing in their mind a "good" girl needs load to talk to her boy friend where as a "bad" girl would spend all day online looking for strangers to send her cash.

Goferring
02-10-21, 22:13
. About the only thing I can add is in city vs. Country girls the proclivities are even more pronounced. True. I've often found that the city girl may have more experience but the provincial girls are often willing to do ANYTHING if training is provided.

"No" simply isn't in their vocabulary and boundaries don't exist. City girls will start off knowing more but will be more headstrong when it comes to limits.

Cheers. G.

BrizLad
02-11-21, 06:11
6. They are more often than not single moms and will readily share pictures of their kids upfront, I guess as an implicit statement that she comes as a package. Don't be spooked if your first video call includes saying Hi to the kiddies.Thanks Steve for the extensive list. Single no kids is definitely a minor proportion of the country but I think this target group is worth pursuing. The conversations are less pressured. Providing for kid (s) is not the only thought in their head.

I've been thinking about the optimal girl that I will want to meet on my first trip back. Over the years I think I have met and fucked 200+ Filipinas of many varieties and family situations. It is a feast!

For the past few weeks I've been getting enthralled by a 25 yo Cebu law student. Smart, articulate, chatty, no kids and no money probs. Mum and dad seem to foot the bill for a reasonable large house in a Cebu compound. Unlimited data plan and she eats three meals a day. And still weighing in at 50 kg.

Now I think back to a few of the others and the best travel buddies I have had have been all no kids.

Yes, I know single mom I will be staple for the next 30 years but it is still worth trying to snag the singles.

Brizlad.

Wicked Roger
02-11-21, 08:15
I haven't followed up but expect there is some way for the girls to resell load or convert it to cash. You're correct: they all ask for load. For what ever reason they often get angry when told that I don't send cash saying they need load not cash. They definitely make a distinction.

I'm guessing in their mind a "good" girl needs load to talk to her boy friend where as a "bad" girl would spend all day online looking for strangers to send her cash.Load is inexpensive to most of use (100-300 pesos) but they can sell part of that we give to friends for cash etc.

Some surf the net for all sorts of reasons G as they don't have access to a laptop etc so watch TV, films and chase men via the phone. Hence load is very important.

Member #1088
02-11-21, 20:41
Agreed with Steve, good description on what happens through DIA.

But. After using it since many years, almost 6 I guess, never banned and never got any remark from admin, but here I got one.

Usually I say Hi, or she say Hi, and after 2 msgs, I ask are you on messenger, usual answer is yes. So need to ask which name, then which profile pic, etc. But normal.

Here, I did the same and I saw a big yellow message saying that it was a warning because I asked too quickly to switch to another chat tool, and if this was to happen often it could have an impact on my usage of DIA.

I guess the girl was also warned because she never came on messenger, she just accept me and never chatted.

So, now, that very different, I don't like chatting in DIA and if I can't ask quickly to switch on something else, would be an issue.Girls keep asking for gcash, but I think that is only for ph phones, right? Or can you send gcash from usa?

George03
02-11-21, 21:15
I've created a monster. 😁.

In a serious note, don't take my post as a recommendation to ride roughshot over the girls limits and wishes. Their vengeance will be swift and severe. I've always had better service from being respectful than demanding.

Any fantasy you can imagine is available in PI just not from every girl. They too have their individual likes and dislikes. For special requests and deal breakers, just discuss them before she leaves the bar or home. That saves disappoint for all parties.

Enjoy. G.No, wouldn't do that. I may try to be persuasive, but wouldn't force myself on them. I try to be nice to the girls, It has worked for me so far. That being said, I wonder if getting "back door" is just a numbers game and you get lucky, or is there a prototype that the odds increase.

Goferring
02-11-21, 22:25
Load is inexpensive to most of use (100-300 pesos) but they can sell part of that we give to friends for cash etc.

Some surf the net for all sorts of reasons G as they don't have access to a laptop etc so watch TV, films and chase men via the phone. Hence load is very important.Thanks Roger. I think it was Globe that was talking about having their Sims store credit like a debit card and facilitate physical purchases and Seven 11 etc. Not sure if that progressed but it may be an option for them too.

Goferring
02-11-21, 22:38
I've been thinking about the optimal girl that I will want to meet on my first trip back. Over the years I think I have met and fucked 200+ Filipinas of many varieties and family situations. It is a feast!

Brizlad.We've all got out preferences but the one commonality with all my "best" girls or nights out is that they all happened by happy accident, often unexpectedly and sadly often towards the end of a trip. 😁.

That's why I just casually head out now, never determined to have the best time of my life.

Cheers. G.

GDreams
02-12-21, 03:14
Thanks Roger. I think it was Globe that was talking about having their Sims store credit like a debit card and facilitate physical purchases and Seven 11 etc. Not sure if that progressed but it may be an option for them too.One advantage of sending load is you can do it off the providers website using a credit card from anywhere. No hassle of money transfers. The only reason I like a money transfer is to get them to send me their photo ID, not that I have a long list of girls I send money to but it does help in finding all their social media accounts when you have their full name. It helped me track that one girl had just gotten married to another guy the week before!

BrizLad
02-12-21, 03:34
One girl I was chatting a year ago now, 24 yo no kids, ostensibly said she was single. She had an amazing rack and unblemished body. She was the daughter of a barangay captain. After a while revealed that she was in fact married but that the husband had married her even though he was married to another Filipina. I was a bit skeptical but over the moth of chatting other the story did stack up. She sent me her real detail as well as that of the husband us foreigner national. She was going through the process of getting the marriage cancelled.

What would motivate a foreigner to bother fucking up so many lives?

Briz.

Mr Enternational
02-12-21, 04:23
The only reason I like a money transfer is to get them to send me their photo ID, not that I have a long list of girls I send money to but it does help in finding all their social media accounts when you have their full name. Taking a moment out to be Captain Obvious, couldn't you just ask them their full name?... or even ask them to let you see their ID without sending money? I have tons of chicks' IDs in my phone, yet have not done one money transfer.

Goferring
02-12-21, 04:47
One advantage of sending load is you can do it off the providers website using a credit card from anywhere. No hassle of money transfers. The only reason I like a money transfer is to get them to send me their photo ID, not that I have a long list of girls I send money to but it does help in finding all their social media accounts when you have their full name. It helped me track that one girl had just gotten married to another guy the week before!Thanks GD. The reason I don't know how the system works is that I never send cash, load or anything to girls regardless of if they are new or long time acquaintances. All of mine are well trained that I am generous while in town but there will be no random FB messages, chit chat or dying uncles while I'm back home.

I've posted a couple of times that while I normally don't even contact girls until I'm in town, these are exceptional circumstances so I am contacting new girls on the off chance that their numbers will still be valid when I can arrive. To date no funds have been sent and I'm not expecting too. A few girls have sent me nudes but as I don't cam, I haven't pushed for more. I see it (maybe foolishly) as ground work for a future visit.

Everyone has their different preferences, and that's ok, so I'm wondering what are experienced mongers getting for the TT'ed load or cash? Cam sessions? Bonus points for helping the girls out during times of need? Prepaid future services?

No judgement or hazing for sending the money. I'm just wondering what guys get in return?

Thanks. G.

Kabul Guy
02-12-21, 10:15
.....

No judgement or hazing for sending the money. I'm just wondering what guys get in return?

Thanks. G.I will quickly send load, I use gcash and 50 p is a cheap way to test the waters. If she thanks me and chats for 3 days that the load lasts then OK, I will send more so we can keep chatting to see where it goes. If she gets upset and demands 500 p load so she can chat,. Goodbye.

I have 2 regulars that I have not been able to see for a while, they get a thousand or so a month, one got 5 k when she had to move. 2 K on the months of their birthdays. One got a old cell phone that cost me less than 300 p to send to her.

These are girls I actually care about, both would marry me in a heartbeat but I have convinced me I am not going to remarry and that that topic is of limits. I look at it as an investment in future fun as well as something for the past memories.

Otherwise I do not send money at all. I am a 200 p bus ride outside of Cebu city and will send 500 just before they come. Small enough that if I lose it no big worries, they get 1000 or 1500 for two or three days here and hat has to cover bus home.

I have been chatting with one, she is on Negros so not able to get here easily and she has not asked me for money. She is smoking hot, 35 no kids, bikini model quality (I have seen bikini pictures.).

Bikini model has at least one guy in USA that has been sending her 30 k for over 2 years. She has not said whet he gets for that but they have never met. I am sure he is not getting cam shows as she lives in an area with bad coverage, only cell phone data and it is spotty at best.

All I can think he will be getting is either short videos or still pictures, but for more than 2 years, some $15,000 worth? For that he could have come over once a year and fucked her and several others for a month.

WestCoast1
02-12-21, 13:15
SNIP but for more than 2 years, some $15,000 worth? For that he could have come over once a year and fucked her and several others for a month.1) If one of you fellas will send me $15 k USD, I will see how far I can get on that, with how many different ladies. Will post up a bunch of pics. Have cash (yours), will dally. And will post reports.

2) An abbreviated story, previously posted, from years past. A Manila regular (at the time, I referred to her as "The Dynamo", due to her un-assuage-able nawty energy). Mid-30's, tiny. Deeply horny and she became a provider. Was with her on / off for some years. She had two daughters, and for the first 2-3 years she rarely spoke about them. After a few years, one night after the ditty, while the other new gal that she'd brought for my 3-some joy had drifted off to sleep, she shared some insights as to her daughters. She said they each had an American boyfriend.

A few months later on a return trip to NCR, we met at a bar for a drink. She had indicated she would bring a new girl for 3-some, but here was no extra girl. "Ya Westy she's home. She come later". The Dynamo had forgotten something at home, so we taxied to an apartment building where she lived, and she had me walk upstairs with her to her place. Its in a crappy area, and its a crappy building inside and out. Both elevators were dead. We walked up the stairs, and from the lobby to the stairwell to the hallway (many apartment doors were wide open), there were mostly women and children, and hotties left and right (no wonder she seemed to have an endless supply of ladies). We reached her apartment, walked in, she grabbed whatever she had forgotten and put it in her purse. We left and taxied to my hotel, and the new gal showed up. Once again after dinner, drinks, and adult fun, the new gal slept while Dynamo and I talked.

Sweetie, tell me more about your daughters foreign BF's please. And she did: Both daughters had much older American boyfriends from different cities. Both boyfies were elderly and could not travel. The mother had used DIA to carefully cultivate older gents who were fairly invalid to have chat-only relationships with her daughters. One gent was sending about $350 USD monthly to one daughter (the mother collects all the money), and the other gent I think was sending about $400 per month to the other daughter. The Dynamo routinely sat in on chat sessions between daughters and the Cano, and reviewed conversations from the old YM chat transcripts, so there was no hint of hanky panky. GENIUS!

Mom was raking in about p35-40 k per month on the two older gents. I would guess that's why she never asked me for anything, telling me only how much she thought I should give each new gal that she brought me, and of course to pay for food / drink and such. She said she was using the foreigners money to live on and save for each daughter's college. Each older gent later passed away, but that didn't end the gravy train, as mom just carefully enticed more elder-gents into the same relationship. Both girls went to college (one stopped, bad grades). Just guessing that the Dynamo made easily $20-$30 K USD off this thing (or much more) over the years.

Guess we should not be surprised that during Covid-times, overseas gents are willing to cough up large dollars for a few nude photos of some pinay hottie, given that previous-Covid gents were willing to send hundreds of $ monthly to girls they knew they would never meet, never touch, and never get to say anything nawty to, for the rest of their lives.

3) Seriously, refer to #1 above.

PedroMorales
02-12-21, 14:03
Here is a good report of Pinays and transsexuals extorting guys to sand cash. I know of several suicides in this area.

https://www.scamsurvivors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75303&p=186147

One has to admire their entrepreneurship. Real Gangs of New York trash.

This morning I watched a video of an impala escape from a crocodile. Only (spoiler alert) for a leopard to immediately pounce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwRBMIDCSs.

There are a lot of lonely / horny guys out there on Team Impala.


1) If one of you fellas will send me $15 k USD, I will see how far I can get on that, with how many different ladies. Will post up a bunch of pics. Have cash (yours), will dally. And will post reports.

GDreams
02-12-21, 15:13
Thanks GD. The reason I don't know how the system works is that I never send cash, load or anything to girls regardless of if they are new or long time acquaintances. All of mine are well trained that I am generous while in town but there will be no random FB messages, chit chat or dying uncles while I'm back home.

I've posted a couple of times that while I normally don't even contact girls until I'm in town, these are exceptional circumstances so I am contacting new girls on the off chance that their numbers will still be valid when I can arrive. To date no funds have been sent and I'm not expecting too. A few girls have sent me nudes but as I don't cam, I haven't pushed for more. I see it (maybe foolishly) as ground work for a future visit.

Everyone has their different preferences, and that's ok, so I'm wondering what are experienced mongers getting for the TT'ed load or cash? Cam sessions? Bonus points for helping the girls out during times of need? Prepaid future services?

No judgement or hazing for sending the money. I'm just wondering what guys get in return?

Thanks. G.I've sent load to about 4 girls to chat. All less than 100 p. I have sent a few girls less than 1000 for travel expenses when they are remote. I've sent a couple a few thousand that I was dating but in the end worked out that it was easier just to come pay and have no obligations.

I have been there both as a visitor and working so have tried a few different approaches.

Drbombay
02-13-21, 03:49
Everyone has their different preferences, and that's ok, so I'm wondering what are experienced mongers getting for the TT'ed load or cash? Cam sessions? Bonus points for helping the girls out during times of need? Prepaid future services?

No judgement or hazing for sending the money. I'm just wondering what guys get in return?

Thanks. G.I get private shows and sometimes good conversation. The thing is that with my current job, I will get a chance to travel to the PI once COVID is over so I look at it as "seed money" to my investment in them. I'm getting up in years and frankly once we are allowed to venture out again I suspect the game may change a bit and it's sometimes nice to have a stand-by on call instead of me having to go out to large public places.

I do draw the line though. Every little oops that they may have isn't my problem and it's not my duty to get their sister's kid tuition paid. Nor is is my duty to come online to every night to help them meet their gift goal so that they can cash out and spend big money on high point gifts. I look at it like how guys could sit up in a Buy me Drink bar all night and do nothing but pay for $20 drinks for the lady's and get only them sitting their with them and going home by themselves. There are a lot of those in my area where I live (in Japan) so I am familiar with how that works and somewhat understand so I don't see it as too much of a stretch on my part as long as I don't go overboard.

BrizLad
02-14-21, 22:30
I will quickly send load, I use gcash and 50 p is a cheap way to test the waters. -snip-

I have 2 regulars that I have not been able to see for a while, they get a thousand or so a month, one got 5 k when she had to move. 2 K on the months of their birthdays. One got a old cell phone that cost me less than 300 p to send to her..I think it's reasonable to send load when you are in country or close to arriving.

IME Filipinas do not carry 'credit' in their mind for very long. Being outside the country and not knowing when we might get into Ph it's too open ended unless getting an immediate return.

AussieGaigin
02-15-21, 01:44
I am not a Philippines monger, and my only experience there was from a two day transit stopover in Manila in the 1990's. I did get myself a bar girl, just for the thrill of it, but the details are lost in time. I have certainly enjoyed reading your experiences here, nonetheless.

I have a couple of friends here in Sydney who have successfully married Pinays (same age range matches), who tried to induct me to sisters / cousins, but I resisted the temptation.

I am now in my late 60's, and still not interested, but after reading comments here I decided to waste some of my COVID induced free time to sign up to PinaLove for a month to see what was around. My target was 40-60 year olds.

Not unexpectedly, within seconds of my profile appearing, I was inundated with "likes" and messages from 19-25 year olds, and a few "old boilers" in my age range. These continued for about a week, then faded away.

One that might have had "prospects" was a 50 yo, widow of a "white American". The backgrounds of her photos suggested she was reasonably well off from the union. A bit of chat elicited that she had a sister living in Switzerland, and another in Australia. So it seems the family was doing quite well at milking RWMs. She suggested that she would consider coming here to visit me "if I invited her". Presumably that meant paying her airfares, as she could easily get a family visit visa from her sister (COVID notwithstanding).

After a couple of days of chat, I got an early morning "good morning" message. I asked what she intended doing that day and the best she could come up wit was "water the plants and let the dog out". That was the last I heard from her, maybe a good thing?

This experience seems to iterate what others have said here.

Mr Enternational
02-15-21, 02:12
One that might have had "prospects" was a 50 yo, widow of a "white American". The backgrounds of her photos suggested she was reasonably well off from the union. A bit of chat elicited that she had a sister living in Switzerland, and another in Australia. So it seems the family was doing quite well at milking RWMs. She suggested that she would consider coming here to visit me "if I invited her". Presumably that meant paying her airfares, as she could easily get a family visit visa from her sister (COVID notwithstanding).You should have told her that you promise to meet up with her whenever her sister invites her.

AussieGaigin
02-15-21, 04:43
You should have told her that you promise to meet up with her whenever her sister invites her.That was my intention if we had progressed that far. Knowing that I have 12-18 months before I would likely to actually confront her emboldened me a bit. Maybe the dog ran away and she is still chasing it?

PedroMorales
02-15-21, 09:40
After a couple of days of chat, I got an early morning "good morning" message. I asked what she intended doing that day and the best she could come up wit was "water the plants and let the dog out". That was the last I heard from her, maybe a good thing?

This experience seems to iterate what others have said here.You raise an interesting point here. What would you expect her to be doing besides walking the dog and watering plants? It is early morning here and some old boiler has just walked past in the awful weather with two dogs who ponce a life of sorts out of her. I am of farming stock and believe dogs should either work or be chopped up for food. I do, of course, see their utility as companions to kids and old boilers. I am thinking of going back to growing my own fruit bushes and bee friendly plants but I would have to water them and be around to tend them.

Say you took her to Sydney, What would you expect her to do? Rock your world or water the plants and walk your dog? Here are the Rolling Stones walking the dog in Kangaroo Land https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xtCJhQ6P3w.

Of course, I get you were only monkeying around on PinayLove as we all do. These are simple, low income people. What do you think they do with their time? Do they squander it any differently than we do? Isn't it telling most guys here can't get a white hottie and some of the others are seriously psychologically disturbed? I remember once meeting a nice woman an internet cafe in Isaan. Turns out she had been a low class hooker in Soi 6, Pattaya, famous for cut price, short time bonks. She and her village and family were nice. She had her eyes on a tattooed English alcoholic. As we drove back past locals out hunting frogs for food, she was scare of the ghosts. We were but tourists.

George03
02-15-21, 15:38
That was my intention if we had progressed that far. Knowing that I have 12-18 months before I would likely to actually confront her emboldened me a bit. Maybe the dog ran away and she is still chasing it?Hello,

What is the best time of year to visit Australia? On my list of places to visit if Covid ever ends.

AussieGaigin
02-15-21, 21:34
Hello,

What is the best time of year to visit Australia? On my list of places to visit if Covid ever ends.Not really the correct forum to discuss this, but the "best time" depends largely on where you want to go, what you want to see, and what activities you want to partake in. Northern areas will have tropical conditions in summer with high humidity and often cyclones; some southern areas will be cold in winter, with snowfalls.

It is a big country, equivalent to USA. Same situation as asking "the best time to go to America"? There is plenty of travel info available on line to help you decide. You can DM me if you want some specific info. We'd love to welcome tourist back here some day.

AussieGaigin
02-18-21, 05:19
I am not a Philippines monger, and my only experience there was from a two day transit stopover in Manila in the 1990's. I did get myself a bar girl, just for the thrill of it, but the details are lost in time. I have certainly enjoyed reading your experiences here, nonetheless.

I have a couple of friends here in Sydney who have successfully married Pinays (same age range matches), who tried to induct me to sisters / cousins, but I resisted the temptation.

I am now in my late 60's, and still not interested, but after reading comments here I decided to waste some of my COVID induced free time to sign up to PinaLove for a month to see what was around. My target was 40-60 year olds.

Not unexpectedly, within seconds of my profile appearing, I was inundated with "likes" and messages from 19-25 year olds, and a few "old boilers" in my age range. These continued for about a week, then faded away.
It seems a lot of Pinays are well versed in ESP. My subscription has only a few days left, and I am suddenly being bombarded again with "likes" and "Hello!" messages. How else would these girls know that their time to seduce me is running out? LOL. Is this another site full of computer generated girls?

Mr Enternational
02-18-21, 12:00
It seems a lot of Pinays are well versed in ESP. My subscription has only a few days left, and I am suddenly being bombarded again with "likes" and "Hello!" messages. How else would these girls know that their time to seduce me is running out? LOL. Is this another site full of computer generated girls?Dude I got fucked like that in the States. I signed up for matchdotcom the beginning of last month. I went ahead and paid 6 month for $131. Since then I have only gotten 1 email. That was from a fat ugly chick. I have sent out tons of interests and emails and nothing! Not only zero, but absolute zero. Lesson learned.

Goferring
02-18-21, 21:46
Dude I got fucked like that in the States. I signed up for matchdotcom the beginning of last month. I went ahead and paid 6 month for $131. Since then I have only gotten 1 email. That was from a fat ugly chick. I have sent out tons of interests and emails and nothing! Not only zero, but absolute zero. Lesson learned.I'm guessing that DIA or whoever just ramped up AG's standings and recommended him more in the week before his subscription expiry.

I know if I'm online a lot I only get to see the dregs but if I have a break, miraculously the stunners reappear for me to engage with. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sites provide a similar incentive to resubscribe.

Enjoy. G.

Locamotive
02-18-21, 23:44
Dude I got fucked like that in the States. I signed up for matchdotcom the beginning of last month. I went ahead and paid 6 month for $131. Since then I have only gotten 1 email. That was from a fat ugly chick. I have sent out tons of interests and emails and nothing! Not only zero, but absolute zero. Lesson learned.A dating site in the US? Oh my goodness you should have known better. In my almost a year being stuck here it seems we have two types of women. Old fat and ugly. Fat and ugly. Of course they may be a few variant's in between. Now if you are lucky enough to get a pretty one then you are dealing with self centered, vain, selfish, conceded me too movement feminist. No thanks, God I hope Asia opens up soon.

WestCoast1
02-19-21, 08:51
Since then I have only gotten 1 email. That was from a fat ugly chick.


I know if I'm online a lot I only get to see the dregs


Now if you are lucky enough to get a pretty one then you are dealing with self centered, vain, selfish, conceded me too movement feminist. No thanks, God I hope Asia opens up soon.Oh my, gents, a pox is upon ye. Just hoping I've left the things "Clean and tidy" for you when you return.

Albert9989
02-19-21, 14:04
DIA has enforced their policy I guess.

Goferring
02-20-21, 02:56
DIA has enforced their policy I guess.Why do people persist with DIA?

Girls no better than any other site. Frequent account cancellations and bans. Limits on what can be said and done on the site.

I got banned years ago and haven't even worried about trying to rejoin.

There are many other aps to use. Why do guys keep returning?

Enjoy. G.

GDreams
02-20-21, 03:03
Why do people persist with DIA?

Girls no better than any other site. Frequent account cancellations and bans. Limits on what can be said and done on the site.

I got banned years ago and haven't even worried about trying to rejoin.

There are many other aps to use. Why do guys keep returning?

Enjoy. G.I have never had a problem. Free, unlimited messaging and I have had sex with all 5 girls I met from the site all of which were under 23 and attractive.

Albert9989
02-20-21, 07:58
Why do people persist with DIA?

Girls no better than any other site. Frequent account cancellations and bans. Limits on what can be said and done on the site.

I got banned years ago and haven't even worried about trying to rejoin.

There are many other aps to use. Why do guys keep returning?

Enjoy. G.One reason is because its free maybe.

BrizLad
02-21-21, 00:50
I'm guessing that DIA or whoever just ramped up AG's standings and recommended him more in the week before his subscription expiry.

I know if I'm online a lot I only get to see the dregs but if I have a break, miraculously the stunners reappear for me to engage with. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sites provide a similar incentive to resubscribe.

Enjoy. G.Well Red Hot Pie was actually pursued for that https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/court-finds-online-dating-website-used-fictitious-profiles. For most cases it's monger beware.

People persist with DIA because it's just a part of the pinay mix. I hope people are not exclusively using DIA. Pinalove is also free.

Like another monger say, cannot wait for Asia to re--open.

In the meantime hometown English students seem to be my staple.

AussieGaigin
02-21-21, 02:58
I'm guessing that DIA or whoever just ramped up AG's standings and recommended him more in the week before his subscription expiry.
Enjoy. G.Which raises my suspicions as to whether I am chatting to the girl depicted, or a "keyboard warrior" tailoring a conversation to my profile and comments (which is quite common on sites which charge by usage).

Anyway, I have expired now but I guess I will continue to get teasers. As The Eagles say "you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. ".

On to the next adventure.

Goferring
02-21-21, 03:17
Which raises my suspicions as to whether I am chatting to the girl depicted, or a "keyboard warrior" tailoring a conversation to my profile and comments (which is quite common on sites which charge by usage).

Anyway, I have expired now but I guess I will continue to get teasers. As The Eagles say "you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. ".

On to the next adventure.Not a great loss. I've always recommended making contact when the monger is physically in country at least and preferably in town.

I'm still active online but if I'm honest to myself, it's only for mild titillation. I doubt I will score with the smallest percentage of my contacts when I actually arrive. 😡.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
02-21-21, 03:21
Which raises my suspicions as to whether I am chatting to the girl depicted, or a "keyboard warrior" tailoring a conversation to my profile and comments (which is quite common on sites which charge by usage).

Anyway, I have expired now but I guess I will continue to get teasers. As The Eagles say "you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. ".

On to the next adventure.I don't think there are bots creating profiles. At least on PL and FC that I use. I was more referring to prioritizing hotter girls appearing to entice guys that may be considering not resubscribing or otherwise moving on.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
02-21-21, 03:24
In the meantime hometown English students seem to be my staple.Yep, I read of cash strapped students due to the drop in casual work hours and the Bank of Mom and Dad running out of liquidity.

Has it been a productive target for you?

AussieGaigin
02-21-21, 07:16
I don't think there are bots creating profiles. At least on PL and FC that I use. I was more referring to prioritizing hotter girls appearing to entice guys that may be considering not resubscribing or otherwise moving on.

Enjoy. G.Your theory would be plausible if the girls submitted were "hot", or at least approaching warm.

Never mind, back to the shopping mall on Saturday LOL.

Albert9989
02-21-21, 07:30
Well Red Hot Pie was actually pursued for that https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/court-finds-online-dating-website-used-fictitious-profiles. For most cases it's monger beware.

People persist with DIA because it's just a part of the pinay mix. I hope people are not exclusively using DIA. Pinalove is also free.

Like another monger say, cannot wait for Asia to re--open.

In the meantime hometown English students seem to be my staple.Pinalove ask for subscription to chat with girls. Doesn't seem free at all.

Sammon
02-21-21, 16:42
Why do people persist with DIA?

Girls no better than any other site. Frequent account cancellations and bans. Limits on what can be said and done on the site.

I got banned years ago and haven't even worried about trying to rejoin.

There are many other aps to use. Why do guys keep returning?

Enjoy. G.DIA is free and unlimited messages. Has plenty of interested girls I have used it and very successfull over many years. Yes they have banned me couple of times but every time I go to Philippines I open a new account with local phone SIM card. Also I have joined their sister site OYOY and never had problems finding girls.

I still keep in touch with the girls I had and there is a whole network they have fixing me up with their sisters, cousins, friends. Some of them have sponsors. Those who have sponsors sex in room only. No dinner or vacation outings. I am fine with that. Sponsored girls tend to be pretty. Sexwise all girls are like a box of chocolates!

George03
02-21-21, 19:27
Pinalove ask for subscription to chat with girls. Doesn't seem free at all.You can send and receive email for free, but 1 message every ten minutes. Many girls give WhatsApp out without asking, but most will also give it out if asked. I usually pay for 1 month if traveling to Phil.

Engine Driver
02-21-21, 20:11
The vast majority of girls on dating sites such as DIA, Filipina Cupid or Pina Love are there to get money from foreigners. That is why the age gap and physical attractiveness don't matter to Pinays. There is no particular hierarchy with these sites. The girls sign up to the one their friends or family tell them to.

Just about every single girl is dirt poor, with minimal education, no job and absolutely zero future prospects. Despite their glamour shots, most are slum dwellers and live in wooden shacks with extended families. If their photos show them in bikinis at beach resorts or in hotel rooms, then they have obviously been with another foreign monger and will fuck for money.

They go on these dating sites to initially get instant cash for food, utility bills, medicines, to help with the rent or any other small expense. The expectation is for anything between 2,000 - 10,000 peso. Some will do a cam show or send nude photos if the monger wants something in return. Hundreds of mongers a week are contacting these girls, so it's just a numbers game. Even if one gullible monger sends them 2,000 peso out of pity, that's more than they will make in a week in a legitimate job. The attractive ones are doing very nicely.

The smarter ones will be know how to play the long game and milk the foreigner. They know that if they keep expressing their love, Mr Dumb Foreigner will melt. If it leads to marriage and a visa to RWML, then they have truly hit the jackpot.

Middle and upper middle class Filipinas don't go on these dating sites. They don't need to. They have their own social and family networks to help find them a Filipino man of their own social status. They are not interested in foreigners. If they want to get to RWML, they can obtain their own visas or will be sponsored by their rich uncle in California.

Nothing good ever comes from lonely mongers cruising these dating sites for months on end. You will only find lies, misery and desperation. It will wear you out. You should only go on these sites about 2 weeks before your trip to collect phone numbers of prospects. You then fuck these girls when you get there. Many girls won't show up, so it pays to have a long list. Tinder and wechat also worked perfectly well for getting hookers on arrival so it makes these dating sites unnecessary.

Now watch this and weep. Poor Arthur.

https://youtu.be/TBhoc1nZJGE

PilotPete
02-22-21, 04:12
Nothing good ever comes from lonely mongers cruising these dating sites for months on end. You will only find lies, misery and desperation. It will wear you out. You should only go on these sites about 2 weeks before your trip to collect phone numbers of prospects. You then fuck these girls when you get there. Many girls won't show up, so it pays to have a long list. Tinder and wechat also worked perfectly well for getting hookers on arrival so it makes these dating sites unnecessary.

Now watch this and weep. Poor Arthur.

https://youtu.be/TBhoc1nZJGEWell said, Sir. I would welcome your advice.

As an avid hater of winter I am planning my future winter getaways. So far I have had to bring my own companion on my short trips close to home such as DR and Mexico. I'm wanting to plan a 3 to 5 month long trip to PI for next winter. I'm hoping to find an affectionate Pina for those months without drama. I'm interested in 40+ with good English skills. I don't have the libido I once did and consider that a blessing but I'm not looking for platonic either. Ideally a live-in at a reasonably upscale place to act as guide, cook, fun companion, and affectionate lover. And then say goodbye at the end of March when I return home. Perhaps to return the following year. I'm using SA successfully in the US when I travel.

Drbombay
02-22-21, 06:17
The vast majority of girls on dating sites such as DIA, Filipina Cupid or Pina Love are there to get money from foreigners. That is why the age gap and physical attractiveness don't matter to Pinays. There is no particular hierarchy with these sites. The girls sign up to the one their friends or family tell them to.

Just about every single girl is dirt poor, with minimal education, no job and absolutely zero future prospects. Despite their glamour shots, most are slum dwellers and live in wooden shacks with extended families. If their photos show them in bikinis at beach resorts or in hotel rooms, then they have obviously been with another foreign monger and will fuck for money.

They go on these dating sites to initially get instant cash for food, utility bills, medicines, to help with the rent or any other small expense. The expectation is for anything between 2,000 - 10,000 peso. Some will do a cam show or send nude photos if the monger wants something in return. Hundreds of mongers a week are contacting these girls, so it's just a numbers game. Even if one gullible monger sends them 2,000 peso out of pity, that's more than they will make in a week in a legitimate job. The attractive ones are doing very nicely.

The smarter ones will be know how to play the long game and milk the foreigner. They know that if they keep expressing their love, Mr Dumb Foreigner will melt. If it leads to marriage and a visa to RWML, then they have truly hit the jackpot.

Middle and upper middle class Filipinas don't go on these dating sites. They don't need to. They have their own social and family networks to help find them a Filipino man of their own social status. They are not interested in foreigners. If they want to get to RWML, they can obtain their own visas or will be sponsored by their rich uncle in California.

Nothing good ever comes from lonely mongers cruising these dating sites for months on end. You will only find lies, misery and desperation. It will wear you out. You should only go on these sites about 2 weeks before your trip to collect phone numbers of prospects. You then fuck these girls when you get there. Many girls won't show up, so it pays to have a long list. Tinder and wechat also worked perfectly well for getting hookers on arrival so it makes these dating sites unnecessary.

Now watch this and weep. Poor Arthur.

https://youtu.be/TBhoc1nZJGEThat lesson is a lesson not only for the PI but for any place in the world. But something about this guy seems off to me and there is more to the story. If you want to give a few bucks, then go ahead heck I do it myself. But don't be silly and sell the farm to someone you meet online or that you know in person since they don't have to be dirt poor to screw you over. Many a middle class person got that way by sometimes doing things under the table so don't automatically think that just because she comes from a "good home" in a Manila suburb and has a college degree doesn't mean that she will not rip you off if given the chance.

Engine Driver
02-22-21, 06:42
That lesson is a lesson not only for the PI but for any place in the world. But something about this guy seems off to me and there is more to the story. If you want to give a few bucks, then go ahead heck I do it myself. But don't be silly and sell the farm to someone you meet online or that you know in person since they don't have to be dirt poor to screw you over. Many a middle class person got that way by sometimes doing things under the table so don't automatically think that just because she comes from a "good home" in a Manila suburb and has a college degree doesn't mean that she will not rip you off if given the chance.I take your point. Middle class and upper middle class Filipinos / Filipinas got there through nepotism, political connections, bribery, corruption, tax evasion and other unethical business practices. They are too busy screwing over their own countrymen that they don't have time to be chasing down retired, fat, bald, septuagenarian white mongers. Haha. Class and social status are very important to Filipinas from the posh gated communities in Manila and Cebu and they would not be seen dead with a retired limo driver from the USA. People like Arthur from the video and the majority of mongers on this board will need to be content with chasing barely literate, bird brained nincompoops from the slums.

GDreams
02-22-21, 10:08
Pinalove ask for subscription to chat with girls. Doesn't seem free at all.PL is free to chat to any girl you just have to wait 10 minutes between messages. That's why you go straight for the outside messaging.

AggieDad1
02-22-21, 15:19
But something about this guy seems off to me and there is more to the story. .Its his body language. Learned that lesson from an old HR manager many years ago. When your talking to someone and there body language doesn't match their words then that sets off warning bells.

Mr Enternational
02-22-21, 19:22
Now watch this and weep. Poor Arthur.

https://youtu.be/TBhoc1nZJGEPoor my ass. Arthur is a dumb mf.

Engine Driver
02-22-21, 22:28
Its his body language. Learned that lesson from an old HR manager many years ago. When your talking to someone and there body language doesn't match their words then that sets off warning bells.So what do you think really happened?

Goferring
02-22-21, 22:33
Nothing good ever comes from lonely mongers cruising these dating sites for months on end. You will only find lies, misery and desperation. It will wear you out. You should only go on these sites about 2 weeks before your trip to collect phone numbers of prospects. You then fuck these girls when you get there. Many girls won't show up, so it pays to have a long list. Tinder and wechat also worked perfectly well for getting hookers on arrival so it makes these dating sites unnecessary.I was a big fat zero for a hundred numbers gathered through pre-work on my last trip. That's no exaggeration. Yet I met many great girls with between 2 and 36 hours notice when in country.


That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!

.....
No more of this "see you in 2 weeks" bullshit for me.For those who still insist that pre-work is required, the test is simple. Go online, say you are in Ayala, Makati or wherever and ask to meet today. No stories of liking sunset strolls with your cute puppy required. No one cares: Where are they, you are there too, are they busy today, want to meet? No need to be crude or demanding. It's implicit what you want. Non believers will be amazed at how many will accept the offer. Don't rule out girls being prepared to travel 4 hours on a bus to spend the night. Many actually prefer to travel and not be seen in their home town entertaining lecherous 70 year olds.

Give it a try. G.

Chocha Monger
02-22-21, 23:33
I take your point. Middle class and upper middle class Filipinos / Filipinas got there through nepotism, political connections, bribery, corruption, tax evasion and other unethical business practices. They are too busy screwing over their own countrymen that they don't have time to be chasing down retired, fat, bald, septuagenarian white mongers. Haha. Class and social status are very important to Filipinas from the posh gated communities in Manila and Cebu and they would not be seen dead with a retired limo driver from the USA. People like Arthur from the video and the majority of mongers on this board will need to be content with chasing barely literate, bird brained nincompoops from the slums.This is not limited to limo drivers. Middle and upper middle class Pinays want nothing to do with foreign mongers of any sort, even fat white balding potbellied community college professors. Such a thing would be extremely scandalous in their social circle. Foreign retirees get their pick of the poor social rejects and semi-reformed hookers. Foreign mongers are kidding themselves if they think they can marry into Filipino high society. Rich Filipinos know that that RWML is not sending them their best.

Goferring
02-23-21, 01:28
...Rich Filipinos know that that RWML is not sending them their best.Rich Filipinos also know that the fabled Visa and setting off to Nebraska to suck dick is a major step down in entitlements:

1/ they were educated in RWML and travel there to see friends and family so there is no aura or mystique about it.

2/ the double wide doesn't come with nannies, drivers nor maids. Trade a life of daily gossip sessions over coffee for nappies and a mop? I think not.

Enjoy. G.

AggieDad1
02-23-21, 01:29
So what do you think really happened?Don't know for sure, but its not the story he is telling. Makes me think he is a scammer that got scammed.

BrizLad
02-23-21, 03:59
Now watch this and weep. Poor Arthur.
https://youtu.be/TBhoc1nZJGESounds too hard to believe in the video.

Meanwhile as to the hard hitting interviewer. Reminds me of so many sweet Filipinas in my history with amazing hip length hair.

Engine Driver
02-23-21, 06:57
Well said, Sir. I would welcome your advice.

As an avid hater of winter I am planning my future winter getaways. So far I have had to bring my own companion on my short trips close to home such as DR and Mexico. I'm wanting to plan a 3 to 5 month long trip to PI for next winter. I'm hoping to find an affectionate Pina for those months without drama. I'm interested in 40+ with good English skills. I don't have the libido I once did and consider that a blessing but I'm not looking for platonic either. Ideally a live-in at a reasonably upscale place to act as guide, cook, fun companion, and affectionate lover. And then say goodbye at the end of March when I return home. Perhaps to return the following year. I'm using SA successfully in the US when I travel.We are not sure if you've been to the Philippines before, but let me tell you that Filipinas in the 40+ age group are generally fat and ugly. I'm not sure why, but Filipinas rapidly decline in physical appearance between the ages of 30 to 40. They just look haggard. Maybe it's because the ones we come across in Mongerland are all dirt poor slum dwellers who don't have access to proper nutrition, health care, beauty products, exercise regimes or maids to do their work. Hahaha. Life is hard when you've got a million kids and are also looking after your daughters' six kids. If you've ever seen a photo or video of a Filipinas house in provinces, you will notice two things. The walls will be green and there will be 20 kids under the age of 5 running around.

Now back to your vacation planning. You are selling yourself short. Many slim, pretty 23-year olds from the same slums as their aunts, would be most happy to accept your assignment. Just be clear that you are hiring her as a tour guide / cook / companion and will pay her a monthly salary. That way she won't feel like a prostitute even though she will be spreading her legs for you each night. Hahaha. She will think you are dangling the carrot of marriage at the end.

GoodEnough
02-23-21, 07:44
This is not limited to limo drivers. Middle and upper middle class Pinays want nothing to do with foreign mongers of any sort, even fat white balding potbellied community college professors. Such a thing would be extremely scandalous in their social circle. Foreign retirees get their pick of the poor social rejects and semi-reformed hookers. Foreign mongers are kidding themselves if they think they can marry into Filipino high society. Rich Filipinos know that that RWML is not sending them their best.This is yet another generalization that holds true in many, likely most cases, but not all. The circles in which one is able to move comfortably here depend on a number of factors, among which is the duration of your stay here, and the frequency of your interaction with those in the upper echelons of Philippines society. Having worked with select members of the mover and shaker communities, I can state with absolute certainty that, though the barriers are high, they are not insurmountable.

GE.

Mr Enternational
02-23-21, 15:06
This is yet another generalization that holds true in many, likely most cases, but not all. The circles in which one is able to move comfortably here depend on a number of factors, among which is the duration of your stay here, and the frequency of your interaction with those in the upper echelons of Philippines society. Having worked with select members of the mover and shaker communities, I can state with absolute certainty that, though the barriers are high, they are not insurmountable.But what man is going to wait for something with a .001% chance? That is fantasy land stuff for women. There ain't no stories of poor ass men kissing a frog that turns into a princess. Men date and marry across and down. Women date and marry across and up.

Engine Driver
02-23-21, 21:54
This is yet another generalization that holds true in many, likely most cases, but not all. The circles in which one is able to move comfortably here depend on a number of factors, among which is the duration of your stay here, and the frequency of your interaction with those in the upper echelons of Philippines society. Having worked with select members of the mover and shaker communities, I can state with absolute certainty that, though the barriers are high, they are not insurmountable.

GE.Your point is well intentioned, but unfortunately it's all rather academic. Mongers are all deeply flawed individuals with a myriad of social and mental health problems. Most mongers are socially inept creatures who do not want long term relationships. It is not normal or acceptable behavior in any civilized society to want to travel to third world shitholes to fuck 30 penniless prostitutes in 15 days. What could a monger possibly achieve by trying to mix with high society in the Philippines? Mixing with the hoi polloi in the slums means Monger Man can reach his all important root quota in the time available. Entering a gated community means he won't.

PedroMorales
02-24-21, 10:59
Your point is well intentioned, but unfortunately it's all rather academic. Mongers are all deeply flawed individuals with a myriad of social and mental health problems. Most mongers are socially inept creatures who do not want long term relationships. It is not normal or acceptable behavior in any civilized society to want to travel to third world shitholes to fuck 30 penniless prostitutes in 15 days. What could a monger possibly achieve by trying to mix with high society in the Philippines? Mixing with the hoi polloi in the slums means Monger Man can reach his all important root quota in the time available. Entering a gated community means he won't.That is very well put. I do not like to be around mongers because they are as you describe. The endless discussions here on how to pay a hooker for sex. And the stupid photos which betray worrying personal traits. I am going to phone a friend now about returning shopping at supermarkets. I just want to know when he goes and how many people are there when he goes. I do that because I am a "deeply flawed individual with a myriad of social and mental health problems. , a socially inept creature who does not want long term relationships "with hookers or shops but prefer to get in and out in the shortest time possible.

Mongers are tourists who, by and large, go to tourist spots. The other holiday makers are the same. They too often confuse holiday flings with something else. As regards meeting the great and the good of the Philippines, who in their right minds wants that? Better a wild fling with penniless prostitutes and back to the grind.

Drbombay
02-24-21, 17:36
I take your point. Middle class and upper middle class Filipinos / Filipinas got there through nepotism, political connections, bribery, corruption, tax evasion and other unethical business practices. They are too busy screwing over their own countrymen that they don't have time to be chasing down retired, fat, bald, septuagenarian white mongers. Haha. Class and social status are very important to Filipinas from the posh gated communities in Manila and Cebu and they would not be seen dead with a retired limo driver from the USA. People like Arthur from the video and the majority of mongers on this board will need to be content with chasing barely literate, bird brained nincompoops from the slums.I've seen women on some of those sites send me emails asking not to share any pictures that they have sent me because there are other women on them that get jealous and see who is online and try to undercut their friends by asking you to give to them. Seems to me that they learn early on, it's better to screw your own kababayan over first just to make sure that they don't get too far ahead of you, and as you stated that line of thinking not only rests with the poorer folks but also those in the middle class. Probably more so since it's in their best interests to have a lower class below them. No one wants to be last in places like the PI, and honestly you really can't fault some of the working girls for trying.

Member #1088
03-15-21, 14:46
Unsolicited msg in pinalove.

Member #1088
03-15-21, 17:51
Unsolicited msg in pinalove.Now she (he) sents pics.

Pinaypounder
03-16-21, 20:43
I have made a new chatmate friend, 35, attractive, single, no kids living with her Auntie and working in Japan in a club now closed. These are all the things she has declared.

We hit it off a little she is much smarter than a typical pinay (not a high bar but).

No fun stuff just chatting so far.

OF course I initially assumed she was a working girl, fine for me at least we share a sex addiction, but of course she is not.

After a few days of chatting she is off to Dubai. Her Auntie paid for the trip because she is her favorite niece. I am like who the fuck goes to Dubai? I ask her why she is going and of course the answer is just for a holiday.

Anyways Prostitute YES or NO?

I bow to your greater knowledge.

PP.

Pinaypounder
03-16-21, 21:01
Well said, Sir. I would welcome your advice.

As an avid hater of winter I am planning my future winter getaways. So far I have had to bring my own companion on my short trips close to home such as DR and Mexico. I'm wanting to plan a 3 to 5 month long trip to PI for next winter. I'm hoping to find an affectionate Pina for those months without drama. I'm interested in 40+ with good English skills. I don't have the libido I once did and consider that a blessing but I'm not looking for platonic either. Ideally a live-in at a reasonably upscale place to act as guide, cook, fun companion, and affectionate lover. And then say goodbye at the end of March when I return home. Perhaps to return the following year. I'm using SA successfully in the US when I travel.You can easily find this and there are many 40+ that will fit your pistol. It is true that many decline rapidly they look 25 to the age of 40 then 55 at 41. But not all are village girls with 9 kids. Lots of decent 40 plus ladies who you would likely enjoy.

Make it worth their while a little with a cash contribution at the end and you will be a happy camper.

PP.

Goferring
03-16-21, 22:56
I have made a new chatmate friend, 35, attractive, single, no kids living with her Auntie and working in Japan in a club now closed. These are all the things she has declared.

Anyways Prostitute YES or NO?

I bow to your greater knowledge.

PP.Trust me to be a cynic but if you have to ask the question then you know the answer.

I'm guessing Auntie is 5'2" both tall and round, has full body tattos and is missing a couple of fingers. "Niece" has been labelled past her prime and is being shipped from a country where youth is in demand to an older, established market.

I don't know too many people travelling to Dubai for a holiday in the middle of a pandemic. Is it even open to tourism?

Not that this should stop you. If I'm wrong then she's a good catch. If I'm right, hookers make good GFs for those with their eyes open.

Enjoy. G.

Pinaypounder
03-16-21, 23:38
Trust me to be a cynic but if you have to ask the question then you know the answer.

I'm guessing Auntie is 5'2" both tall and round, has full body tattos and is missing a couple of fingers. "Niece" has been labelled past her prime and is being shipped from a country where youth is in demand to an older, established market.

I don't know too many people travelling to Dubai for a holiday in the middle of a pandemic. Is it even open to tourism?

Not that this should stop you. If I'm wrong then she's a good catch. If I'm right, hookers make good GFs for those with their eyes open.

Enjoy. G.This Board is full of all the bad stories about taking the girl out of the bar. But most of us here, if we are looking long term, DO need a prostitute if we are to be honest with ourselves and are planning at least to have a relationship without cheating. Which frankly are my "dreams".

That is my goal no cheating but also not monogamous aka an open relationship.

So with a good prenup in hand, a good gyno exam and a mature open attitude about fucking others (though I simply can't stand lying) it is possible. Lord knows there are a few miles on my stub!

But for now I will just smile and sift through the lies. I do wonder though why would one admit to going to Dubai? It is one thing to see the lie but better is to wonder why?

Thoughts all?

PP.

Mr Enternational
03-17-21, 00:41
After a few days of chatting she is off to Dubai. Her Auntie paid for the trip because she is her favorite niece. I am like who the fuck goes to Dubai? I ask her why she is going and of course the answer is just for a holiday.

Anyways Prostitute YES or NO?Why does it have to be a hooker? Probably just a liar. You assume they are telling the truth about going to Dubai, but maybe not telling the truth about not being a hooker?

Sammon
03-17-21, 02:23
I have made a new chatmate friend, 35, attractive, single, no kids living with her Auntie and working in Japan in a club now closed. These are all the things she has declared.

We hit it off a little she is much smarter than a typical pinay (not a high bar but).

No fun stuff just chatting so far.

OF course I initially assumed she was a working girl, fine for me at least we share a sex addiction, but of course she is not.

After a few days of chatting she is off to Dubai. Her Auntie paid for the trip because she is her favorite niece. I am like who the fuck goes to Dubai? I ask her why she is going and of course the answer is just for a holiday.

Anyways Prostitute YES or NO?

I bow to your greater knowledge.

PP.Philippine mindset is different. You tell them you are planning to take them to America. They tell all their contacts that they are going to America. It is a given thing or hope.

I have had some girls tell me over the years about their boyfriends in Europe, America, Australia and they told me they are going there soon. Those I am still in touch are still in Philippines.

Goferring
03-17-21, 04:22
This Board is full of all the bad stories about taking the girl out of the bar.

That is my goal no cheating but also not monogamous aka an open relationship.

So with a good prenup in hand, a good gyno exam and a mature open attitude about fucking others (though I simply can't stand lying) it is possible. Lord knows there are a few miles on my stub!

But for now I will just smile and sift through the lies. I do wonder though why would one admit to going to Dubai? It is one thing to see the lie but better is to wonder why?

Thoughts all?

PP.Point by point:

Nothing at all wrong with taking a girl out of the bar if you do it WITH YOUR EYES OPEN. All of my hooker relationships have been great. Of course, trying to turn Krystal the pole dancer into Helen the soccer mom is just plain stupid.

Who is "cheating" if you are together when you are both in town and doing your own thing when not? Again, Eyes Open and don't get judgmental.

Similarly, no one is lying if difficult questions don't get asked. If you are not going to like the answer then don't ask the question. Do you really need to know what she was doing every minute you were out of town? Do you want her asking these questions of you?

Forget the prenups and just go with the flow. It's unlikely to last forever but enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts. Surprisingly, my "breakups" were much cleaner than with civilians.

*News Flash* It's not the hookers that fuck up the relationship. They get to work and play so get the best of both worlds. It's OTHER GUYS. Other fuckwit customers who see the poor damsel enjoying herself and swoop in so "save" her by marrying her and taking her of to be a housewife in suburbia. How well do you think that works out? Hence, enjoy it while it lasts and when a White Knight arrives, move on to the next one. LOL.

Enjoy. G.

PedroMorales
03-17-21, 07:43
*News Flash* It's not the hookers that fuck up the relationship. They get to work and play so get the best of both worlds. It's OTHER GUYS. Other fuckwit customers who see the poor damsel enjoying herself and swoop in so "save" her by marrying her and taking her of to be a housewife in suburbia. How well do you think that works out? Hence, enjoy it while it lasts and when a White Knight arrives, .Not too well in Atlanta.

https://newsone.com/4106718/robert-aaron-long-atlanta-asian-spa-suspect/?fbclid=IwAR1AGVmVJb1-onnHQ6QOfmSwGXu86crXVBNsEdAb-SaoqGDnDZSt9tkCu4Q