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Nice Guy 99
03-17-21, 14:43
I have made a new chatmate friend, 35, attractive, single, no kids living with her Auntie and working in Japan in a club now closed.

After a few days of chatting she is off to Dubai. Her Auntie paid for the trip because she is her favorite niece. I ask her why she is going and of course the answer is just for a holiday.

Prostitute YES or NO?1. Working in Japan in a club that is now closed.

2. "Auntie" is funding a trip to Dubai.

Answer: YES, but so what? Many WGs are wonderful people. This can be a tough time for both "aunties" and WGs. There is money to be made in Dubai.

Pinaypounder
03-17-21, 19:19
WTF man. Why would anyone at our age allow our dick to make such major decisions? Its not like your 2nd /3rd /4th wife built your money they are simply a benefactor of it and are not entitled to significant compensation unless it is truly earned in a successful long term relationship which any will can address.

If you know Pinay it won't be the girls idea (the one you broke with) to take half your life savings it will be her mother her brother the ex, the auntie and they are powerless and useless against family pressure.

I may get married again one day but only once the larger brain has created a safe space that is documented and clearly communicated to the future next ex.

I may be a good judge of my partner but I have no interest in learning all about the rest of the family and they are remoras hanging around the mouth of the shark.

I am just ending a good relationship here with a Filipina who is literally being harassed by her family for her money.

PP.

Goferring
03-17-21, 21:45
1. Working in Japan in a club that is now closed.
Can you expand upon this. Is it just covid induced travel restrictions or are there wider changes in attitudes to foreign workers?

I know several girls allegedly trying to get into Japan as "singers".

Thanks. G.

Goferring
03-18-21, 04:08
WTF man. Why would anyone at our age allow our dick to make such major decisions?

PP.Sorry. My bad. I didn't realise you were looking at a lifelong commitment. If that's the case then refer to my comment about trying to turn Krystal into Helen. There are always exceptions, and I wish you well, but you would be one of very few to make a success of it.

In all my cases, a prenup was not needed as the girl kicked me out when the White Night arrived Not the other way around. In one case, all my crap left in a shopping bag at hotel reception was a not so subtle hint that things were over. More than once they dropped around later to collect some trinket that they had "forgotten" and made a point of showing me what I was now missing out on. I never saw any threats or requests for compensation. They left me for a much more lucrative offer so why would they?

Again, all the best for what every path you choose.

G.

Engine Driver
03-18-21, 06:43
Not too well in Atlanta.

https://newsone.com/4106718/robert-aaron-long-atlanta-asian-spa-suspect/?fbclid=IwAR1AGVmVJb1-onnHQ6QOfmSwGXu86crXVBNsEdAb-SaoqGDnDZSt9tkCu4QThe poor Mexican was shot in flagrante delicto, on the massage table. Gives new meaning to the term "he died on the table". What a way to go! Gone while getting a nice oily hand job from a cute Asian hooker.

Drbombay
03-18-21, 10:11
Can you expand upon this. Is it just covid induced travel restrictions or are there wider changes in attitudes to foreign workers?

I know several girls allegedly trying to get into Japan as "singers".

Thanks. G.Japan is scene as the 'Gold Standard" for many Pinays and other women from poorer countries to come to and work / re-establish themselves. Pre-COVID, there were plenty of hostess bars and places where a young Pinay "singer" could go and work and if lucky find some Ojisan (Older man) who will be willing to take them and hopefully marry them or sponsor them for permanent residency. As a rule, most of those "Philippine Snack" places as they are called do cater to the Japanese only crowd. Also, if they get over here, they are more than likely to branch out and wind up in some type of nursing care or home health care since there is a shortage of those type workers here and if they have had some sort of training coming from the PI and can apply it here they will be good to go for work outside of the "singer" industry.

Plenty of opportunities for a young Pinay to make something of themselves more so than in the PI. For the record, I had a regular from Orchard Towers in Singapore who first started off in Japan and did just that, got married to an older Japanese dude and had a kid by him and so the kid was able to get a Japanese passport and sponsor the mother back into Japan. However, she got a bit greedy (her own words) and divorced him and moved both back to PI and then moved over to Singapore but was trying to get back over here to find a factory job or some other work other than "on her back. " She told me of a story of one of her friends from the Snack bar who married a guy that all the girls called a funny name because of his looks, but years later, she was still with him, kids and permanent residency and all of her friends were including the one I was with were envious of her for making it to be the stable one.

Chocha Monger
03-18-21, 23:02
The poor Mexican was shot in flagrante delicto, on the massage table. Gives new meaning to the term "he died on the table". What a way to go! Gone while getting a nice oily hand job from a cute Asian hooker.He went out with style! Viva Mexico!

PedroMorales
04-03-21, 13:22
Good News: Lots of LBFMs chatting with their WIFI.

Bad News: "it's so sad my lunch and dinner now is water only no choice because no have".

Solution: Western Union. Cough up. I would only I'm off to take a nap.

D Cups
04-14-21, 15:46
Philippine mindset is different. You tell them you are planning to take them to America. They tell all their contacts that they are going to America. It is a given thing or hope.

I have had some girls tell me over the years about their boyfriends in Europe, America, Australia and they told me they are going there soon. Those I am still in touch are still in Philippines.I heard from at least two of my former GFs in Cebu that got married to American guys and moved there. I lost track of them and have no idea if it worked out and if they and their husbands are happy. But then again I don't like facebook or any social media for that matter. Whatsapp and Skype is about all I do. Am I a dinosaur? You bet.

Sammon
04-15-21, 11:25
I heard from at least two of my former GFs in Cebu that got married to American guys and moved there. I lost track of them and have no idea if it worked out and if they and their husbands are happy. But then again I don't like facebook or any social media for that matter. Whatsapp and Skype is about all I do. Am I a dinosaur? You bet.You are not a dinosaur. I do the same with some girls. Do not need continuity of contact. But some chosen ones I keep in contact. I know many who married foreigners and have moved to many countries. Some have come back disillusioned. Some were in a kind of jail forbidden to socialize. In my contacts few seems to be really happy.

Pinaypounder
04-19-21, 19:02
I heard from at least two of my former GFs in Cebu that got married to American guys and moved there. I lost track of them and have no idea if it worked out and if they and their husbands are happy. But then again I don't like facebook or any social media for that matter. Whatsapp and Skype is about all I do. Am I a dinosaur? You bet.I have nailed a few Pinay over here in Canada and the US, married and already divorced and have chatted many in Europe also married and divorced. Many men find them "rescue them" then feel they are owed.

IF you want to being your "captive" home then you need to treat her well as they soon learn that things are different here and they will leave you.

I certainly have no interest in the vast majority of white women today even if they managed to be sub 135 lbs are fing rare find indeed. I want a woman that is happy in her role as a woman doing what former generations of women did but I have no plans to keep one captive as other have.

And I will have a prenup, maybe they do trick or scam me I will be prepared for that.

We reap what we sow, that I believe in.

PP.

Goferring
04-28-21, 03:28
Not a market I dabble in but IG model pricing:

After fat fingering a 😆 onto a post I got an abusive reply asking why I was laughing at her. Definitely not happy. I apologized and asked if she is in MNL. 5 seconds later her pricing for photos and vids. I asked if she was ok with meeting and another 5 seconds later her price for all inclusive.

I was surprised at quickly she monitors her account and replies.

For reference she's got 3 k Followers, she's hot but not blistering.

Enjoy G.

Free2
04-28-21, 20:11
Not a market I dabble in but IG model pricing:

After fat fingering a 😆 onto a post I got an abusive reply asking why I was laughing at her. Definitely not happy. I apologized and asked if she is in MNL. 5 seconds later her pricing for photos and vids. I asked if she was ok with meeting and another 5 seconds later her price for all inclusive.

I was surprised at quickly she monitors her account and replies.

For reference she's got 3 k Followers, she's hot but not blistering.

Enjoy G.10 k for 1 HR date -PHEW!- sure hope prices go down once we arrive to inject them all with semen vaccine in early 2022!

Goferring
04-28-21, 22:41
10 k for 1 HR date -PHEW!- sure hope prices go down once we arrive to inject them all with semen vaccine in early 2022!There are still girls holding out and, and perhaps getting, high prices. I had another refuse 3 k overnight, insisting on 3. 5/5 k for 3 hrs / LT. Maybe BS but she insisted she was still getting guys at those prices even sending photos of her meeting Johns.

She wasn't a model but but I found her hotter than the girl above using my preferences of nice tits held up by a tall slim frame. The IG girl was the typical glamour model with massive tits with curves. 3000 guys obviously like her and she is cross features on many Philippine glamour sites but I wouldn't pay mega bucks for her. Just my preferences 😁.

Don't worry though. Many 70 lb spinners still available by the pound when flights open.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
05-01-21, 22:20
Hi, my name is Gofer and I'm a monger. It's been nearly two years since I have tasted Pina pussy.

At first, going cold turkey was easy. I thought I could develop other interests and possibly focus on other regions. However, the universe conspired against me and I'm still confined to this dry hell hole.

My first attempt at weening off the LBFM addiction was to limit myself to fascinating conversations online about doing laundry and cooking fried fish and rice breakfasts. This was successful in that hundreds of pinas did leave their WhatsApp number but ultimately numerous photos of (semi) naked pinas just fuelled my addiction.

It was then that I descended into lying about actually being in various cities if the Philippines. To sort the pinas into who would just chat and who would actually meet later, I set up numerous dates, backing out at the last minute. I was going on up to 5 hypothetical dates per day. It appeared that the vast majority of girls were indeed ready to meet, not just talk about it. Many would suffer many of my cancellations or no shows and still be prepared to drop around at short notice. Many are still hounding me about when they can come around to demonstrate their cum gargling skills.

The Pinas have ranged from high priced IG models through to Tondo waifs and everything in between. Some that stick out have been numerous gorgeous promo and cosmetic counter girls who are now jobless and need a dick to suck, a Wanchai cage dancer who is happy to make hay while Franz is locked out and many Plain Jane's who'se revenue streams have dried up.

In a few ISG group therapy sessions others have offered that I am not not in the wrong but instead resetting the balance after numerous other mongers have suffered through 4 hour waits, no shows and bait and switches. It's refreshing that I can offer these guys some justice and restitution.

I would like to kick my addictions but fear going cold turkey is just not working. I may be confined to mom's basement until she turns off the WiFi or I can get a ticket back to paradise, which ever occurs first.

Stay safe. G.

Dg8787
05-01-21, 23:32
Hi, my name is Gofer and I'm a monger. It's been nearly two years since I have tasted Pina pussy.

At first, going cold turkey was easy. I thought I could develop other interests and possibly focus on other regions. However, the universe conspired against me and I'm still confined to this dry hell hole.

My first attempt at weening off the LBFM addiction was to limit myself to fascinating conversations online about doing laundry and cooking fried fish and rice breakfasts. This was successful in that hundreds of pinas did leave their WhatsApp number but ultimately numerous photos of (semi) naked pinas just fuelled my addiction.

It was then that I descended into lying about actually being in various cities if the Philippines. To sort the pinas into who would just chat and who would actually meet later, I set up numerous dates, backing out at the last minute. I was going on up to 5 hypothetical dates per day. It appeared that the vast majority of girls were indeed ready to meet, not just talk about it. Many would suffer many of my cancellations or no shows and still be prepared to drop around at short notice. Many are still hounding me about when they can come around to demonstrate their cum gargling skills.

The Pinas have ranged from high priced IG models through to Tondo waifs and everything in between. Some that stick out have been numerous gorgeous promo and cosmetic counter girls who are now jobless and need a dick to suck, a Wanchai cage dancer who is happy to make hay while Franz is locked out and many Plain Jane's who'se revenue streams have dried up.

In a few ISG group therapy sessions others have offered that I am not not in the wrong but instead resetting the balance after numerous other mongers have suffered through 4 hour waits, no shows and bait and switches. It's refreshing that I can offer these guys some justice and restitution.

I would like to kick my addictions but fear going cold turkey is just not working. I may be confined to mom's basement until she turns off the WiFi or I can get a ticket back to paradise, which ever occurs first.

Stay safe. G.Not to worry. There are plenty of lying mongers here to form a group for therapy. Problem is most are in denial. As you know the first step is admission.

WestCoast1
05-02-21, 05:50
Hi, my name is Gofer and I'm a monger. It's been nearly two years since I have tasted Pina pussy.The group chants: "Hi Go". Group leader: "Good to have you here today Gofer. Two years, my God"!

Westy says: Keep it clean. Wash your toys both before and after use.

OlderAndWiser
05-22-21, 22:13
Well said, Sir. I would welcome your advice.

As an avid hater of winter I am planning my future winter getaways. So far I have had to bring my own companion on my short trips close to home such as DR and Mexico. I'm wanting to plan a 3 to 5 month long trip to PI for next winter. I'm hoping to find an affectionate Pina for those months without drama. I'm interested in 40+ with good English skills. I don't have the libido I once did and consider that a blessing but I'm not looking for platonic either. Ideally a live-in at a reasonably upscale place to act as guide, cook, fun companion, and affectionate lover. And then say goodbye at the end of March when I return home. Perhaps to return the following year. I'm using SA successfully in the US when I travel.It's actually challenging to find a decent looking woman 40+ here. It would be much easier to find someone in the 25-35 age bracket, even if you are 70+.

Sammon
05-23-21, 12:56
To say I am ready is an understatement. Started chatting on DIA and OyOy lining up girls for my November trip (to be on the safe side hoping everything will be open by then) . Plan is Istanbul (maybe sightseeing only), Manila, Cebu, Pattaya, Bangkok.

So far,

1. Manila girl who sent me many pictures and wants me to stay at her apartment in Makati. Very pretty probably high end escort girl out if a job. I will add couple of her pics.

2. Couple of more from Taguig, couple from pasay.

3. An virgin girl in Cebu picture below. Says she is mine.

4. Few more young ones ready to stay with me and have fun.

5. Two province girls from Thailand want to stay with me. Not much luck getting more Thai normal girls on dating sites for fun only.

Hoping to have a blast after being grounded for two years by that time.

Wicked Roger
05-23-21, 23:59
T3. An virgin girl in Cebu picture below. Says she is mine..Sorry Sammon she is mine LOL And likely anyone elses who visits Cebu. One monger friend has at least 50+ girlfriends all saying they love him only LOL.

PedroMorales
05-24-21, 09:23
To say I am ready is an understatement. Started chatting on DIA and OyOy lining up girls for my November trip (to be on the safe side hoping everything will be open by then) . Plan is Istanbul (maybe sightseeing only), Manila, Cebu, Pattaya, Bangkok.

So far,

Hoping to have a blast after being grounded for two years by that time.1. Ya got to be careful what you say on DIA to you get booted.

2. November? Can't see it happening. These lockdowns are going to roll on and on and poor countries will be off limits for ages.

MutantChicken
05-24-21, 17:59
Sorry Sammon she is mine LOL And likely anyone elses who visits Cebu. One monger friend has at least 50+ girlfriends all saying they love him only LOL.No one has asked but I'm wondering which one is the pretty one who could be a high class escort? As all I see are 4 overweight plain janes who would be lucky to score 1000 p ST. No wonder why they say that 'porigners' like 'exotic' and not beautiful women.

Goferring
05-24-21, 22:55
It's actually challenging to find a decent looking woman 40+ here. It would be much easier to find someone in the 25-35 age bracket, even if you are 70+.A minor correction:

It would be much easier to find SEVERAL in the 25-35 age bracket.

I tried the hooker on a holiday deal for a few weeks and found it better to rotate them out as I get bored or they get burdensome.

Dg8787
05-25-21, 00:14
It's actually challenging to find a decent looking woman 40+ here. It would be much easier to find someone in the 25-35 age bracket, even if you are 70+.I rather have 2 20 year olds together. Ohh. I have done that a few times!

George03
05-25-21, 16:43
Well said, Sir. I would welcome your advice.

As an avid hater of winter I am planning my future winter getaways. So far I have had to bring my own companion on my short trips close to home such as DR and Mexico. I'm wanting to plan a 3 to 5 month long trip to PI for next winter. I'm hoping to find an affectionate Pina for those months without drama. I'm interested in 40+ with good English skills. I don't have the libido I once did and consider that a blessing but I'm not looking for platonic either. Ideally a live-in at a reasonably upscale place to act as guide, cook, fun companion, and affectionate lover. And then say goodbye at the end of March when I return home. Perhaps to return the following year. I'm using SA successfully in the US when I travel.It's hard to get an answer about 40+ girls, it always winds up with the comments that you received, or, there are no attractive girls in Phil above 25. The answers are correct, however, in that no matter what your age, there are plenty of 20 somethings available. And, probably most girls looking for foreigners probably age faster, but not all of them. I usually stop in Manila first, make trips to La cafe and similar joints, then try to hook up in each city I visit. For the traveling girls, or ones that I want to spend a few days with, I usually end up with early 30's. My last trip, I picked a girl from LA cafe, she told me she was 40. I was very surprised, she look much younger. I had another in her 40's from Havana that was attractive. I didn't ask the age before the session, it didn't matter.

I had a PM from someone when posing the question about 40-50 year olds, he had some luck in this range. My last trip, I did a facetime with a 50 year old with a great body, but her sister took over the call. Not as attractive, wanted me to bring both to the beach, I declined. I see lot's of attractive 40+ on the dating sites, but I would make sure that I did some video chat beforehand, many use older pictures.

Anyway, most of the answers you will get here are mongers bragging about banging 20 somethings. Not exactly a hard thing to achieve in the Phil. I get it, but most of those commenting are probably getting wanked in their home country by 60 year old massage "therapists". Anyway, If you have luck with the older gals, please post.

Sammon
05-26-21, 00:17
Sorry Sammon she is mine LOL And likely anyone elses who visits Cebu. One monger friend has at least 50+ girlfriends all saying they love him only LOL.Problem always for a visitor is attention span for new girls is short. They want here and now. So many I lost contact after all things agreed.

As for virgin I have had few over the years. Not sure about this particular one. She is going back and forth about giving it up for me knowing I do not want long term relationship.

I am not the guy to have multiple girls a day. Prefer a good one to enjoy and have fun, travel etc. I still have some previous ones but being a monger tendency is to look for new ones. If none work out I use them as back up although those girls are older now. Some tried to bring new girls to meet me but the problem in Cebu is very few have authentic I. D. Many have openly said they are underage but it is okay. Not okay for me. In Manila most seem to have good I. D.

Not sure if I will try to go to Angeles. However everything is up in the air because of current restrictions.

BrizLad
05-28-21, 00:05
To say I am ready is an understatement. Started chatting on DIA and OyOy lining up girls for my November trip (to be on the safe side hoping everything will be open by then) . Plan is Istanbul (maybe sightseeing only), Manila, Cebu, Pattaya, Bangkok..I find it hard to believe that they will be in the same situation in 5 months, that you can keep them engaged / o nthe hook for that long without action.

You are opening yourself up for demands for cash (which you will rightly decline) but those requests / declines will lead to a deterioration in your plans with then. You also have to juggle them and the new additions for 5 months.

How long has it taken you to put together this list? Consider working backwards from your departure date and just start Date. X days.

OlderAndWiser
09-15-21, 03:41
Once upon a time, DIA was the go to dating app for the Phil s. That changed a few years ago when they introduced draconian tules to constrain messaging and boot off anyone they dislike. Does anyone know any tips on how to avoid this? If not what in your opinion are the best dating sites for Pinays?

Free2
09-15-21, 19:01
Filipinocupid.


Once upon a time, DIA was the go to dating app for the Phil s. That changed a few years ago when they introduced draconian tules to constrain messaging and boot off anyone they dislike. Does anyone know any tips on how to avoid this? If not what in your opinion are the best dating sites for Pinays?

Goferring
09-15-21, 22:26
If not what in your opinion are the best dating sites for Pinays?In increasing order of quality and price:

Pinalove; Filipine Cupid; Tinder; Instagram; Seeking Arrangement.

Facebook is still widely used but it takes time and is not point and shoot.

You will need a WhatsApp account to chat away from the apps.

Sammon
09-16-21, 11:30
Once upon a time, DIA was the go to dating app for the Phil s. That changed a few years ago when they introduced draconian tules to constrain messaging and boot off anyone they dislike. Does anyone know any tips on how to avoid this? If not what in your opinion are the best dating sites for Pinays?I have been in Dateinasia ever since they opened. I have met and enjoyed many girls and in fact that and her sister site oyoy were the only I use. Both are free.

I got booted out twice. Once because I was extra nasty to a ladyboy who pretended to be a real girl after many messages. Second one was because I was explicit about sexual matters to a young girl.

Opened new e mail accounts, altered my picture and got back in.

1. Be nice to transgenders. Just politely say you are not into it and wish them good luck.

2. If somebody annoys you block them immediately. Also file complaint if they beg for money. Do not ignore. This way you get points if someone complains about you. Pre-empt.

3. If you like someone ask them for their messenger, Skype, WhatsApp etc so that you can chat with them and there you can discuss anything. Do not talk about sex in dateinasia. For a while a warning used to come saying people have bad intentions if they ask for other forms of communication. Not anymore. Once you chat there you can ask about sex, remuneration etc. If they do not like dump them.

4. Do not mention, age, ask about their family, work etc. Do not offer money.

Have fun. There are plenty of good looking young girls there who I prefer. Success rate about getting into their pants is about 20 percent.

I have had some real beautiful girls, very GFE types etc.

WestCoast1
09-22-21, 17:10
I have been in Dateinasia ever since they opened. I have met and enjoyed many girls and in fact that and her sister site oyoy were the only I use. Both are free.
Sammon, clear out your Inbox.

MamaGuevos
09-23-21, 11:53
I have been in Dateinasia ever since they opened. I have met and enjoyed many girls and in fact that and her sister site oyoy were the only I use. Both are free.

I got booted out twice. Once because I was extra nasty to a ladyboy who pretended to be a real girl after many messages. Second one was because I was explicit about sexual matters to a young girl.

Opened new e mail accounts, altered my picture and got back in.

1. Be nice to transgenders. Just politely say you are not into it and wish them good luck.

2. If somebody annoys you block them immediately. Also file complaint if they beg for money. Do not ignore. This way you get points if someone complains about you. Pre-empt.

3. If you like someone ask them for their messenger, Skype, WhatsApp etc so that you can chat with them and there you can discuss anything. Do not talk about sex in dateinasia. For a while a warning used to come saying people have bad intentions if they ask for other forms of communication. Not anymore. Once you chat there you can ask about sex, remuneration etc. If they do not like dump them.This is very good advice. About 10 years ago, I first visited Manila and used DIA. I found that 1/10 girls would agree to spend the night with me before our first meet up (I was uninterested in any first dates that resulted in coffee, chit-chat and a promise of a second date because of time constraints). However, I got kicked off of DIA my last day in Manila when I was in a rush to find a girl before my plane left. I simply asked her to come to my hotel for "naughty fun" and the next thing I knew, I was expelled. I had to get a new phone number and new email address to get back in. I did it again in almost the same way the next year, and again I had to get a new phone number and email account to get back in.

But now, I can use Viber or WhatsApp (in truth, I never learned how to use Viber correctly so I mostly use WhatsApp) and on my last trip to Makati in January 2020, I would quickly divert all conversations there.

I did an "experiment" back in 2011 or so that I reported on here (before I got kicked off the first time). I asked about a large number of girls to spend the night with me and make love. I basically introduced myself to them, and on the second message came out and stated my intentions. It took about an hour to do this and I had about 10% say yes immediately, and another 10% showed enough interest that they continued the conversation without committing to sex. About 25% never responded to my first query and the rest either never responded to the request for sex or told me to get lost. Then, as I mentioned above, DIA expelled me that trip. One of the female members probably complained. My experience in 2020 convinced me that the odds of finding a willing sex partner using DIA have not changed appreciably.

Although I have no similar experiment with pinalove, it is clearly more difficult to get expelled if one is a paid member (perhaps it is impossible). I used the sister site Thaifriendly in Bangkok in 2020 (as a paid member) and, while it was not nearly as easy to find a date as DIA, I could be explicit and suffered no consequences. I never offered money on Thaifriendly, but only stated that I am "a generous man". Moving onto LineID was still a strategy that I used very effectively. I also used Tinder in Bangkok, but was rapidly expelled because I thought it was permitted to be explicit. Live and learn!

I have concluded that non pros, semi pros and pros are easy to find on these dating web sites. A date that includes explicit plans can be arranged within 15 minutes (and at most an hour). Moving quickly to WhatsApp or another phone App gets around all of the problems of authoritarian website moderators.

Goferring
09-24-21, 01:06
Although I have no similar experiment with pinalove, it is clearly more difficult to get expelled if one is a paid member (perhaps it is impossible).Correct. Whether you indeed to do the acts or not, one way to quickly sort the willing is to ask very explicit questions. I quite often do this towards the end of a trip, already have numerous numbers and don't have time or willingness to play mind games. Asking the price of bareback anal will not have any repercussions from PinaLove.

Nolz7
09-24-21, 02:53
This is very good advice. About 10 years ago, I first visited Manila and used DIA....I got kicked out of DIA about 10 years ago. I have since used facebook and now Facebook groups as my hunting ground.

BrizLad
09-24-21, 08:18
It's such a waste that we have all of our Filipina dating tips on standby waiting to unleash as soon as those borders open to horny sex tourists.

As well as the standard dating sites, which I don't currently have profiles as I start on those 1 week prior to arrival.

I've been building an instagram profile with a growing selection of filipina. I don't bother to post anything at the moment, a few randoms pics. My strategy will be to start posting local Manila / Cebu / Locanto adventures as soon as I'm on the ground.

OlderAndWiser
09-25-21, 07:20
I'm surprised no one has mentioned tagged in the recent discussions. Though not officially a dating site it de facto operates as one.

BrizLad
09-30-21, 11:55
I'm surprised no one has mentioned tagged in the recent discussions. Though not officially a dating site it de facto operates as one.Compared to Pinalove though, Tagged has faded for me.

I would mention it. It has served me so well for so long since 2010 I think. Have had good hookups in Zurich, HK, AC, Cebu, Manila, Dubai, Bahrain, Singapore and even here in Brisbane.

I haven't mentioned it because it is so patchy here in Brisbane. I also found it was becoming less reliable in Philippines. But I would certainly include it in my app portfolio.

Also, I notice Tagged has made it hard to contact the hot girls. More often I was getting "this user is super popular" or something. Even on profiles that had been inactive for months when I was testing what that message meant.

WestCoast1
10-11-21, 12:27
Not sure what forum to post this. In regards to gents paying girls for cam time, this article. Its possible to take it too far.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-admits-selling-company-laptops-122000-paying-female-livestreamers-072941939.html

From the article:

A man misappropriated 17 laptops from his workplace and bought 40 others in his companys name to sell in order to gift the monies to female online live streamers, according to his lawyer.

Chen Weizhou, 34, pleaded guilty to one count of criminal breach of trust as an employee and two counts of cheating. One count of accessing a database without authority, in order to continue his ruse of buying the laptops, will be considered for his sentencing. The affected laptops are worth more than $122,000.

Goferring
10-11-21, 22:08
Not sure what forum to post this. In regards to gents paying girls for cam time, this article. Its possible to take it too far.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-admits-selling-company-laptops-122000-paying-female-livestreamers-072941939.html

From the article:

A man misappropriated 17 laptops from his workplace and bought 40 others in his companys name to sell in order to gift the monies to female online live streamers, according to his lawyer.

A tad misdirected by Mr Chen. I think it was Mr E who first pointed out the insanity of expressing one's love for the girls by buying them phones etc that they can use to contact more John's. . 🤦.

GDreams
10-27-21, 07:45
Over the last day PL has had free chatting. No this member is popular please buy a subscription.

AussieGaigin
10-28-21, 01:51
Over the last day PL has had free chatting. No this member is popular please buy a subscription.It has had "free chatting" for a long time. But you are allowed one message every 10 minutes.

Some of those "popular members" can't be accessed free off the website, but are freely available on phone apps (or v / v). Have had similar experience with girls who "no longer exist" or who have "blocked me".

GDreams
10-28-21, 04:01
It has had "free chatting" for a long time. But you are allowed one message every 10 minutes.

Some of those "popular members" can't be accessed free off the website, but are freely available on phone apps (or v / v). Have had similar experience with girls who "no longer exist" or who have "blocked me".Virtually every girl has automatically been a popular member and blocked from message though there was always a workaround. On the Pinalove app they just don't show in the search.

Gaijin Gigolo
11-20-21, 09:24
A tad misdirected by Mr Chen. I think it was Mr E who first pointed out the insanity of expressing one's love for the girls by buying them phones etc that they can use to contact more John's. ..Yeah, just a tad. LOL!

CodeName47
11-22-21, 09:16
I just paid the subscription with PL. I even did not upload the photos. I could get at least 10 contacts now.

One need to be careful about the age though. I now a days put minimum of age 20 + to filter through.

Engine Driver
11-24-21, 22:00
This is a message for the old timer mongers to the Philippines. Now we haven't had internet chat rooms per se for over 20 years and everyone I know stopped writing letters with a pen and paper 30 years ago. Therefore the title of this thread is a little outdated.

Do the older Philippines veterans remember the times they were actually in those virtual chat rooms chatting with Filipinas who might have been at a Internet cafe? After meeting them in the general chat area, did you guys then take the more heated sexual discussions to the private chat room? How did it work? Did you then tell them to meet you at a certain date / time / place to fuck them? Not too many Filipinas had phones back then, so how did it all work?

As for actual pen pals, did any of you mongers actually correspond with Filipinas by snail mail? I've heard of mongers marrying Filipinas after a sending them two letters, hence the term mail order bride. Did you find these Filipinas through a dating agency in your own country? I'm thinking for a mongering holiday, it would have been too easy to just go to the bars back then.

Goferring
11-26-21, 05:11
As for actual pen pals, did any of you mongers actually correspond with Filipinas by snail mail? I've heard of mongers marrying Filipinas after a sending them two letters, hence the term mail order bride. Did you find these Filipinas through a dating agency in your own country? I'm thinking for a mongering holiday, it would have been too easy to just go to the bars back then.Not the PI but I can remember offering the girls translation services for love letters that they received. Many were from hopeless romantics that were including cash to 'keep them out of the bar'. Most seem to have met in bars and continued from there while John was back home. One guy did sweep up and marry a hard core bar girl after I took her on a 2 week holiday. I think it was a combination of jealousy and saviour complex on his part.

Remember that mongering was far less plentiful then. No discount airfares made travel much more expensive and harder to organise. Most were either expats or vets.

PedroMorales
11-26-21, 10:53
That reminds me when I met a beautiful lady researching her history thesis. On events I was directly involved in.

1. I met women through Yahoo Chat at the turn of the century. I later met them in actual Internet cafes, which is an industry in decline.

2. Before that, there were brokers with huge books full of profiles on mail order brides. They would advertise through the sleazy red tops.

3. There will always be ample supply. Heck, some guys here even married their hos. The dick pic freaks, who knows?

4. I did send snail mail with a 0% success / response rate. I had much higher success in Europe.


This is a message for the old timer mongers to the Philippines. Now we haven't had internet chat rooms per se for over 20 years and everyone I know stopped writing letters with a pen and paper 30 years ago. Therefore the title of this thread is a little outdated.

Do the older Philippines veterans remember the times they were actually in those virtual chat rooms chatting with Filipinas who might have been at a Internet cafe? After meeting them in the general chat area, did you guys then take the more heated sexual discussions to the private chat room? How did it work? Did you then tell them to meet you at a certain date / time / place to fuck them? Not too many Filipinas had phones back then, so how did it all work?

As for actual pen pals, did any of you mongers actually correspond with Filipinas by snail mail? I've heard of mongers marrying Filipinas after a sending them two letters, hence the term mail order bride. Did you find these Filipinas through a dating agency in your own country? I'm thinking for a mongering holiday, it would have been too easy to just go to the bars back then.

Member #1088
12-21-21, 20:21
It must be very bad in PH after the typhoon.

I am now getting tons of offers for cam show in pina, even without asking to connect.

Some of them they don't even know what a cam show is, and they think is just talking.

They are very surprise when I tell them what it means. Any other with similar experiences?

Drbombay
12-22-21, 10:48
That reminds me when I met a beautiful lady researching her history thesis. On events I was directly involved in.

2. Before that, there were brokers with huge books full of profiles on mail order brides. They would advertise through the sleazy red tops.

One of those publications was called 'Cherry Blossoms" that had something like a year book photo of the girl with a number, and you sent a check or money order with that number and you would get the address. Reminds me of that old movie from the 90's "Island of My Filipina Dream Girls" or something like that.

Wow how things have changed!

WestCoast1
12-22-21, 17:37
One of those publications was called 'Cherry Blossoms" that had something like a year book photo of the girl with a number, and you sent a check or money order with that number and you would get the address. Reminds me of that old movie from the 90's "Island of My Filipina Dream Girls" or something like that.

Wow how things have changed!As late as 2019, I was introduced to a gent who believed that Filipina mail-order brides were still a thing. He mentioned his days traveling around the world meeting girls from the old catalogue of pics and description. When I mentioned that wasn't done anymore, he loudly (in a restaurant) called "Bullsh*t!" And: "I can get a Filipina from a catalogue and have her here in a month's time on a marriage visa". Really. Here in Illinois? "Yes"!

Living in the past. However, there are still websites offering island tours for Flipina brides: https://islandladies.com/.

See pic, and red arrow. They have scheduled an upcoming tour for January 20,2022. I am wondering how many times in the past 18 months they have pushed back that date. Bold.

Soapy Smith
12-22-21, 22:54
Westie,

Perhaps you're not aware of the TV show, "90 Day Fiance. " I don't watch it, but from a friend who does watch I've heard that various episodes involve Filipinas.

https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance/about

Engine Driver
12-23-21, 02:09
Now would be good time not to contact Filipinas. They will only hit you up for Christmas money.

Drbombay
12-23-21, 09:37
As late as 2019, I was introduced to a gent who believed that Filipina mail-order brides were still a thing. He mentioned his days traveling around the world meeting girls from the old catalogue of pics and description. When I mentioned that wasn't done anymore, he loudly (in a restaurant) called "Bullsh*t!" And: "I can get a Filipina from a catalogue and have her here in a month's time on a marriage visa". Really. Here in Illinois? "Yes"!

Living in the past. However, there are still websites offering island tours for Flipina brides: https://islandladies.com/.

See pic, and red arrow. They have scheduled an upcoming tour for January 20,2022. I am wondering how many times in the past 18 months they have pushed back that date. Bold.You know some of the "Do Gooders" will flag your visa and passport ad report you for going overseas for sex tourism. Heck depending on what organization you work for, as you have seen with some FBI agents who recently got busted for buying hookers on an overseas trip, you traffic in person, you get busted. Yet, it's ok to Bugger another man!

Drbombay
12-23-21, 09:39
Now would be good time not to contact Filipinas. They will only hit you up for Christmas money.Too late, one hit me up to help with her light bill and then later sent me a picture and video of her dancing in a costume she just got with her aerobics dance group. If you got a few pesos to do that, you probably don't need my help paying your electric bill.

The Rose
12-23-21, 11:16
You know some of the "Do Gooders" will flag your visa and passport ad report you for going overseas for sex tourism. Who doesn't go overseas with a view to hooking up with somebody? It's the old biological itch. Then, too, there are places where prostitution is legal. I don't think that the FBI will try to prosecute someone for diddling a Canadian pro or for that matter a Vegas ho when she is working legally.

I don't think there is any problem with leaving the country to get laid. The problem is when the girl is under age.

Soapy Smith
12-23-21, 18:08
You know some of the "Do Gooders" will flag your visa and passport ad report you for going overseas for sex tourism. Heck depending on what organization you work for, as you have seen with some FBI agents who recently got busted for buying hookers on an overseas trip, you traffic in person, you get busted. Yet, it's ok to Bugger another man!

I'm with The Rose on this. It's not clear what you mean by do-gooders, but if you mean NGO workers, I don't think they care about individuals like us. They care about trafficking systems.

My only experiences in which my visa matters is with immigration officials asking me why I was in the Philippines when I return. I tell them I was there on business, and I give them just enough description of my work to get a nod from the official. I can't imagine immigration officials caring about individual sex tourists. They care about intercepting illegal immigrants and those who traffic in people, money, gems, drugs, and so on. I could be wrong; if anybody has evidence that's different than this, I would alter my travel behaviors.

Mr Enternational
12-23-21, 18:16
I can't imagine immigration officials caring about individual sex tourists. They care about intercepting illegal immigrants and those who traffic in people, money, gems, drugs, and so on. I could be wrong; if anybody has evidence that's different than this, I would alter my travel behaviors.You are not wrong, but many mongers are paranoid and think that someone is watching them.

Sammon
02-19-22, 14:15
Started chatting with lots of girls for my April trip to Manila, Cebu and maybe Angeles.

Many of the girls have lost their jobs in cities and have gone back to their provinces. I used to import girls from provinces but this trip decided against it. Main reason is I have a back up of previous providers who although getting older still wants to be with me. Me being after fresh young pussies have not committed to see old regulars.

General observation is young girls readily agree to stay with me in the beginning. My dating site is exclusively DIA. Once the chat is moved to social apps money demands come for this and that. I refuse and surprised how sneaky they are telling me lots of people send money before meeting. I would like to meet these guys and give them a lecture in mongering LOL. My usual excuse is I like giving cash only so that there is no paper trail. The girls have answer to that also saying I can use my friend, she can use her friend etc to transfer money. One girl from provinces telling me to send money for flights, new clothes, new shoes etc. I told her I will come and pick her up. After that she gave me a lecture how sex before marriage is not right. I told her asking for money before sex is not right either. It is fun to argue with them especially if they go off script. Angeles girls are easiest. They seem to know the deal.

However so far I have got about ten girls ready to stay with me. We will see.

PedroMorales
02-19-22, 14:32
I forget where you live but it is not just so called do gooders. If you visit monger friendly places like SE Asia, it can and will be used against you if you if you have any sort of public profile, or simply have personal enemies.

1. Public Profile: If media get hold of it (through your enemies) , you risk being accused of all sorts of things. When you are explaining, you are losing. I am aware of high profile folk who got into trouble this way. It could be they just wanted to go to Phuket or wherever to be anonymous, get drunk etc but that doesn't sell in Peoria or wherever.

2. Personal Enemies: They can use your visits in a whispering campaign or tipping the cops off. Normally, cops should arrest them for time wasting but the new cop model is to follow up online hate crimes (calling names) and hassling you would help fill their work quota with no downside.


You know some of the "Do Gooders" will flag your visa and passport ad report you for going overseas for sex tourism. Heck depending on what organization you work for, as you have seen with some FBI agents who recently got busted for buying hookers on an overseas trip, you traffic in person, you get busted. Yet, it's ok to Bugger another man!

Drbombay
02-19-22, 16:59
Started chatting with lots of girls for my April trip to Manila, Cebu and maybe Angeles.

Many of the girls have lost their jobs in cities and have gone back to their provinces. I used to import girls from provinces but this trip decided against it. Main reason is I have a back up of previous providers who although getting older still wants to be with me. Me being after fresh young pussies have not committed to see old regulars.

General observation is young girls readily agree to stay with me in the beginning. My dating site is exclusively DIA. Once the chat is moved to social apps money demands come for this and that. I refuse and surprised how sneaky they are telling me lots of people send money before meeting. I would like to meet these guys and give them a lecture in mongering LOL. My usual excuse is I like giving cash only so that there is no paper trail. The girls have answer to that also saying I can use my friend, she can use her friend etc to transfer money. One girl from provinces telling me to send money for flights, new clothes, new shoes etc. I told her I will come and pick her up. After that she gave me a lecture how sex before marriage is not right. I told her asking for money before sex is not right either. It is fun to argue with them especially if they go off script. Angeles girls are easiest. They seem to know the deal.

However so far I have got about ten girls ready to stay with me. We will see.Yeah with the lifting of some of the travel restrictions, the attitude of online chatting is taking on a new meaning. We may have inflation in the US for things, but I think for the PI in terms of Mongering it will be a buyers market. I admit, I did the chat / gifting thing during the dark days (a fool and his money.), I had a little extra to play with and did, but now that I'm preparing myself for a trip next month to the PI I've taken a different attitude. There is one I'm supposedly going to see that I did spend a little extra for, and to be honest I'll give her one chance to meet, and if I get the "sick sister, niece, etc.) I'll simply move on since it's her loss not mine. There are plenty more to choose from. I've been looking at Massage Republic, Smooci, and other escort sites now, putting out feelers for those who have contact information and letting them know when I will arrive, and going from there. Much easier for an old man like me to at least prepay for service than hang out in the evenings at the local hot spots to basically do the same thing.

For the ones from the other sites like Tagged, Meet Me, DIA as they used to say "It's Show Time" now! For everyone who said if only you can meet me I'll do right by you now is the time that opportunity is coming true and you can see which ones are really going to come through. I think they are starting to realize that since some of the ones I know seem to be asking more and more for a gift from those sites since people have stopped giving as much in anticipation for making trips.

AsianPursuits
02-19-22, 22:33
I refuse and surprised how sneaky they are telling me lots of people send money before meeting.I saw one girls paypal account. She is clearing P190,000 from mongers that will never see her in person.

J Janni
03-11-22, 04:01
In preparation for a late April trip to Cebu, I'm doing the Facebook thing. Mainly just adding girls. Planning to post ythr Airport and Cebu landmark selfies when I get there, see what comes out of the woodwork. I'm planning at least two months in PI so I can play the long game.

Chatting to one cute little 19 year old spinner. Pics looked too good to be true, but we've videocalled.

Yesterday, she messages me that her period is late. Oh, when did you last have sex? Last month. Condom? No, but he not cum inside.

She's getting a pregnancy test.

Wondering what the scam is here? Support my baby? Preparing me for when I turn up and she's 3+ months pregnant? Genuine?

Either way, I know she's down for bareback.

AsianPursuits
03-11-22, 05:12
Wondering what the scam is here? Support my baby? Preparing me for when I turn up and she's 3+ months pregnant? Genuine?

Either way, I know she's down for bareback.She's 19 and unlikely to be super regular or even tracking her period. So, how late is 'late'?

Good strategy on the FB posting.

WestCoast1
03-11-22, 05:16
She's getting a pregnancy test. Wondering what the scam is here? Support my baby? Quite possibly not a scam, she might just be filling you in on what is happening in her life. Pregnancy (or possible preggers) is a pretty big deal for her.


Preparing me for when I turn up and she's 3+ months pregnant? Genuine?That's a fair bet. Also quite possible that she has a pinoy boyfie and she meets foreigners sometimes (or wants to, with the blessing of boyfie). This way she can meet you with a baby bump, tell you that her no-good BF ran off, earn some pesos, and return home after you are gone to feed the boyfie or her fam.

GDreams
03-11-22, 05:59
PinaLove now requires a subscription to send messages.

Sammon
03-11-22, 14:13
In preparation for a late April trip to Cebu, I'm doing the Facebook thing. Mainly just adding girls. Planning to post ythr Airport and Cebu landmark selfies when I get there, see what comes out of the woodwork. I'm planning at least two months in PI so I can play the long game.

Chatting to one cute little 19 year old spinner. Pics looked too good to be true, but we've videocalled.

Yesterday, she messages me that her period is late. Oh, when did you last have sex? Last month. Condom? No, but he not cum inside.

She's getting a pregnancy test.

Wondering what the scam is here? Support my baby? Preparing me for when I turn up and she's 3+ months pregnant? Genuine?

Either way, I know she's down for bareback.No if it is a scam she will only tell you after you leave you made her pregnant. You need to tell her it is going to be P4 P and if she does not like it you look for another girl.

Money demands are always there from Philippine girls whether you just chatted them online or you fucked her few times and still keep in touch. There are hundreds of excuses as we all know. A true monger pays for fucking. Otherwise it is a charitable donation.

I had a similar situation. This girl from around Cebu started chatting. All plans arranged. After she came to the room she said she cannot have sex with me because her gynecologist told her. Complete surprise to me. I asked her why she did not tell me she is pregnant. She said she really wanted to be with me and afraid of me saying no. I let her stay one night just cuddling and playing with her nice boobs. She did some BBJ. Next morning I told her she has to go. I told her I come on vacation for sex. Anyway she left with some money. After that money demands came. I blocked her.

Mr Enternational
03-11-22, 15:51
I saw one girls paypal account. She is clearing P190,000 from mongers that will never see her in person.In that case, how are they mongers?

Mr Enternational
03-11-22, 15:54
Yesterday, she messages me that her period is late. Oh, when did you last have sex? Last month. Condom? No, but he not cum inside. Either way, I know she's down for bareback.Either way you know she is down for bareback with someone else. YMMV.

AsianPursuits
03-11-22, 20:10
In that case, how are they mongers?Horny guys sitting on their computers in their home country thinking they are sponsoring their special girl that they will visit.

They do not yet know she won't be seeing them.

Guinness1
03-11-22, 23:10
I had a similar situation. This girl from around Cebu started chatting. All plans arranged. After she came to the room she said she cannot have sex with me because her gynecologist told her. Complete surprise to me. I asked her why she did not tell me she is pregnant. She said she really wanted to be with me and afraid of me saying no. I let her stay one night just cuddling and playing with her nice boobs. She did some BBJ.Well, at least her dentist didn't tell her not to give BJ's. Just curious, did her proctologist say she couldn't do anal?

Mr Enternational
03-12-22, 00:29
Horny guys sitting on their computers in their home country thinking they are sponsoring their special girl that they will visit.

They do not yet know she won't be seeing them.Mongers pay money to fuck hookers. What you are talking about is just a guy that sends money to a chick. Where I am from that is called a cake daddy or paymaster. That is not the definition of a horrmonger.

AsianPursuits
03-13-22, 08:15
Mongers pay money to fuck hookers. What you are talking about is just a guy that sends money to a chick. Where I am from that is called a cake daddy or paymaster. That is not the definition of a horrmonger.Sounds interesting. Hope to her more about this.

BigAon
03-18-22, 08:26
It must be very bad in PH after the typhoon.

I am now getting tons of offers for cam show in pina, even without asking to connect.

Some of them they don't even know what a cam show is, and they think is just talking.

They are very surprise when I tell them what it means. Any other with similar experiences?I was here in the Philippines when Typhoon Odette hit on Dec 16, 2021. Here in southern Cebu, it was widespread devastation. The house where I stay had half the roof ripped off, plus two walls. My room was missing three walls and a roof. I have neighbors whose homes were flattened. This was after two years of Covid bullshit and economic shutdowns. So things are bad now.

AsianPursuits
03-24-22, 07:45
In preparing for an April visit, I started re-kindling a few old flames. In the space of a few days, one girl had exhausted her entire list on me.

A) salary hadn't come through from employer, needed a loan until payday.

B) now has dengue and is in hospital, P40 k bill.

C) out of hospital but brother had a stroke and needs treatment.

Other girls were more receptive and will have them on standby for future plans. As usual though no point in planning with them too far in advance.

Member #1088
03-28-22, 13:10
Do you ever have the excuse, they come to meet you but they come with another girl (which most of the times is older, not a beauty) and they say the dr told her she can't have sex but she brought her friend / cousin / sister who has kids and can fullfill instead of her. I called them the honeypot, I just pass and move to the next one.


In preparing for an April visit, I started re-kindling a few old flames. In the space of a few days, one girl had exhausted her entire list on me.

A) salary hadn't come through from employer, needed a loan until payday.

B) now has dengue and is in hospital, P40 k bill.

C) out of hospital but brother had a stroke and needs treatment.

Other girls were more receptive and will have them on standby for future plans. As usual though no point in planning with them too far in advance.

Goferring
03-28-22, 21:44
Do you ever have the excuse, they come to meet you but they come with another girl (which most of the times is older, not a beauty) and they say the dr told her she can't have sex but she brought her friend / cousin / sister who has kids and can fullfill instead of her. I called them the honeypot, I just pass and move to the next one.It's pretty normal to arrive with a cousin in tow, though usually it's prewarned. Personally, I'm fine with it.

Never had "you can't fuck me but you can fuck her" on a first meet. Many have recommended cousins later.

I've had these a few times:

"I won't sleep with you on a first date but next time is ok".

"You want to sleep with both of us?

"I don't do XXX speciality but she does".

Cousin stays for a few minutes and after confirming I'm not a psycho either disappears or waits outside / in the CR.

It's more fun in the Philippines. 😁.

Goferring
03-28-22, 21:50
P. S. Once in Davao the girl was so ugly that I wouldn't fuck her so told me to wait while she summoned her friend. Friend was even worse so I fucked no one.

A night to be avoided. 😁.

WestCoast1
03-28-22, 22:10
P. S. Once in Davao the girl was so ugly that I wouldn't fuck her so told me to wait while she summoned her friend. Friend was even worse so I fucked no one.

A night to be avoided. 😁.A two-bagger? A butterface?

AsianPursuits
03-28-22, 22:41
Cousin stays for a few minutes and after confirming I'm not a psycho either disappears or waits outside / in the CR..This is a standard practice. Initially in my early years in Cebu I would always avoid this suggestion thinking it was just a way to get free meals then they go both disappear. Then I stopped the meal suggestions and just met at a coffee casual place.

The first one I did his was at UCC Coffee at Ayala Mall Cebu. Closest to Marriott where I was staying. Girl arrived with tall well dressed LB. LB didn't do anything for me but it did mean that my girl had a reliable cover story at home and was able to dress up to go out together. We had the coffee, the cousins exchanged visaya conversation and the LB made an excuse to leave. Girl spent the night with me.

Other versions of this I got paraded in front of some aunties in Manila when I took a trike to collect a girl. When my trike arrived her place, she got me out of trike and into the family house where the aunties were siting. Made some small talk, yes I will look after this 21 year old university student, yes, I'm a good man etc etc. Got out of there and had my way with their prized niece.

As Ph is opening up, it is worth remembering all of these old events and not to be bothered by cultural norms.

Goferring
03-29-22, 01:34
A butterface?A butter-everything. Add in a look of sheer terror when her girlfriend, my initial date, turned up with a random old white guy for her to fuck, and it was obvious that the night was going nowhere.

Sammon
03-29-22, 02:03
Those girls who have never been with a foreigner do bring friend, cousin, aunty etc for the first meeting. Sometimes if the girl is desirable after chatting online I do allow it. Meeting will always be outside at a mall. So it is easy for me to bail out in case there is no prospect of intimacy. Sometimes it has worked. I have gotten both girls to come to my room and have fun. Usually one girl hides in the bathroom but never both in the bed me. At night sleeping between them and I had sex with each while the other pretends to be fast asleep.

If the girl asks to meet outside it is not a bad thing. It shows she is not a seasoned pro. Generally I chat cam to cam many times where she starts to trust me and will come to my hotel. Even then some wants to meet outside and need to be escorted in to the hotel. They do not want to be perceived as easy girls by the hotel employees.

Although it has not happened to me there are reports of girls using guys to host dinner for the whole family and leaving the guy empty handed. One time a girl wanted me to meet her family at mall of Asia. She introduced her mother and the mother asked me few questions. Girl and the mother talked and then the girl wanted me to walk with her family. At that point bailed out saying I have urgent business to attend to.

Mongering is all about the learning curve. Overthinking has no value. Play the game and see you can get ahead without being scammed.

Goferring
03-29-22, 03:38
Other versions of this I got paraded in front of some aunties in Manila when I took a trike to collect a girl. When my trike arrived her place, she got me out of trike and into the family house where the aunties were siting. Made some small talk, yes I will look after this 21 year old university student, yes, I'm a good man etc etc. Got out of there and had my way with their prized niece.

I've also had the opposite happen. Go to the province to meet the fam. Our bags get dumped in the only real bedroom in the house. Small talk for 5 minutes with all and sundry. Then everyone conveniently disappears for an urgent meeting at grandma's next door. Girlie demands to express her thanks for coming. Declining is not an option.

I've only been rapedd a couple of times but that was one of the better ones. 😁.

AsianPursuits
03-30-22, 08:52
I've also had the opposite happen. Go to the province to meet the fam. Our bags get dumped in the only real bedroom in the house. Small talk for 5 minutes with all and sundry. Then everyone conveniently disappears for an urgent meeting at grandma's next door. Girlie demands to express her thanks for coming. Declining is not an option.

I've only been rapedd a couple of times but that was one of the better ones.We do love the culture and the understanding of what needs to be done to maintain harmony and the peso flowing out of our wallets to theirs.

WestCoast1
03-30-22, 18:11
We do love the culture and the understanding of what needs to be done to maintain harmony and the peso flowing out of our wallets to theirs.Harmony. Pesos. And vaccine, too. Wink 😁.

Expat American
03-30-22, 19:04
I've been chatting up this Muslim girl from Mindanao. She looks conservative (wears hijab) but is very flirty in the chats. I'm intrigued if only for the novelty factor. I'd bring her to Manila, not visit her there. Anyone have any experience? Is the hijab just for show and will she put out. She is a single mom so no virgin here. What say ye all?

ThomasCasey
03-30-22, 22:02
I've been chatting up this Muslim girl from Mindanao. She looks conservative (wears hijab) but is very flirty in the chats. I'm intrigued if only for the novelty factor. I'd bring her to Manila, not visit her there. Anyone have any experience? Is the hijab just for show and will she put out. She is a single mom so no virgin here. What say ye all?When you say "bring her to Manila", how much do you plan to invest to fly her out? I'm in a similar yet different situation. Girl from CDO wants to see me when I go to Cebu. She's hot enough that I think it's worth the investment since it's so cheap to fly. In your case: the hijab doesn't mean it's a nun's habit. Muslim or not, they will definitely put out. I've been through Indonesia where they wear hijabs and are Muslim and it's never meant anything when it comes time to get in the sheets. I say do it!

Goferring
03-30-22, 23:44
When you say "bring her to Manila", how much do you plan to invest to fly her out? I'm in a similar yet different situation. Girl from CDO wants to see me when I go to Cebu. She's hot enough that I think it's worth the investment since it's so cheap to fly. In your case: the hijab doesn't mean it's a nun's habit. Muslim or not, they will definitely put out. I've been through Indonesia where they wear hijabs and are Muslim and it's never meant anything when it comes time to get in the sheets. I say do it!I'd agree that the hijab wouldn't worry me either way. However, she may be more relaxed and out going away from prying eyes and gossips back in her home town. Walking around with a foreigner or pulling on a bikini at the pool may be more comfortable for her away from home.

What's to stop you or Expat visiting her? While some areas of Mindanao are no go areas for us, many towns have a lot to offer and a local guide around Davao, CDO or Surigao could make a fun few days.

Obviously, be very wary of the old send me money for airfares first scam. Mindanao features prominently in these as it's far from where westerners typically visit or live.

Sammon
03-31-22, 02:20
I've been chatting up this Muslim girl from Mindanao. She looks conservative (wears hijab) but is very flirty in the chats. I'm intrigued if only for the novelty factor. I'd bring her to Manila, not visit her there. Anyone have any experience? Is the hijab just for show and will she put out. She is a single mom so no virgin here. What say ye all?Girl is a girl. It does not matter what religion, ethnicity, poor or rich. Single mothers in Philippines (There are lots) will jump into bed with no problems. Just because she wears a Hijab does not mean anything. She will wear it only where she lives. She will not wear if she is in Manila. I have had my share of Muslim women. I had couple who I met at the shawarma place near LACafe. They were from Mindanao came to Manila to attend interviews for a job in Middle East. I was eating alone and they were at the next table. Small talk ensued and ultimately they came with me to my room. I was staying at Bayview Park hotel.

Some Muslims like you find in Dubai, Beirut and Iran look exotic compared to Philippine Muslims. I have brought a virgin girl from Mindanao few years ago just because she is a virgin. Flights in Philippines are cheap if you so choose. Do not send money for the ticket. Only book and send ticket. One girl who I sent ticket to tried to cancel to get refund. Ofcourse she was not successful. Airline sent a message to me. I cancelled and got refund.

Goferring
03-31-22, 03:32
...Just because she wears a Hijab does not mean anything. She will wear it only where she lives. She will not wear if she is in Manila.

Some Muslims like you find in Dubai, Beirut and Iran look exotic compared to Philippine Muslims....Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Saudi Air that's famous for a beekeeper stepping on the plane and a bikini model stepping off at Heathrow? 😳.

Sammon
03-31-22, 11:51
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Saudi Air that's famous for a beekeeper stepping on the plane and a bikini model stepping off at Heathrow? 😳.Yes, Saudi Arabia was very strict before Salman loosened laws.

Expat American
03-31-22, 17:51
When you say "bring her to Manila", how much do you plan to invest to fly her out? I'm in a similar yet different situation. Girl from CDO wants to see me when I go to Cebu. She's hot enough that I think it's worth the investment since it's so cheap to fly. In your case: the hijab doesn't mean it's a nun's habit. Muslim or not, they will definitely put out. I've been through Indonesia where they wear hijabs and are Muslim and it's never meant anything when it comes time to get in the sheets. I say do it!Fights from Mindano to Manila are only 3000 peso round trip. So minimum expense. I'm getting the feeling she will put out but I'm not asking the question directly yet. The trip is in May so there is time to warm her up some more I think.

WestCoast1
03-31-22, 18:16
Fights from Mindano to Manila are only 3000 peso round trip. So minimum expense. I'm getting the feeling she will put out but I'm not asking the question directly yet. The trip is in May so there is time to warm her up some more I think.Concur. Girls willing to travel (whether her dime or yours) are doing so with the knowledge that they will be sleeping with you. But to avoid any confusion before you buy that plane ticket, be somewhat explicit and ask her if she is ok with lovemaking. If she balks at that, its time to stop wasting time and move on. Don't leave it to chance.

ThomasCasey
03-31-22, 19:16
Fights from Mindano to Manila are only 3000 peso round trip. So minimum expense. I'm getting the feeling she will put out but I'm not asking the question directly yet. The trip is in May so there is time to warm her up some more I think.With the girl I'm talking to (and her aunt), I will be flying in her from CDO. Just an FYI before you buy a ticket. Make sure they have ID to be able to get onto the flight in the first place. I just found out last night she does not have proper ID (just school ID which she lost). When I researched it apparently the airlines will allow someone on with photo school ID (I was surprised), however I have told her to the postal ID (which can take up to 30 days) to get and costs about 500 php.

Sammon
03-31-22, 21:17
I'm getting the feeling she will put out but I'm not asking the question directly yet. The trip is in May so there is time to warm her up some more I think.You mean to say you made all these plans and did not mention to her that you are flying her to Manila for sex?

That is the first thing I do when I get them to chat on social sites. If they say they are not like that or any stupid shit reason not to have sex with me I dump them. Once they say they agree for sex then the plans can be made about how much per day etc. I always make sure amount is agreed before so that the girl does not think I am paying 10000 pesos per day. To tell you the truth such amount has been requested by a Japanese karaoke hostess working in Manila very pretty cam to cam. I told her I am not Japanese LOL. Finally we agreed for 3000 and the covid hit.

Guinness1
03-31-22, 21:52
I've been chatting up this Muslim girl from Mindanao. She looks conservative (wears hijab) but is very flirty in the chats. I'm intrigued if only for the novelty factor. I'd bring her to Manila, not visit her there. Anyone have any experience? Is the hijab just for show and will she put out. She is a single mom so no virgin here. What say ye all?A little Russian roulette. Sounds like fun to me! As long as you aren't staying at the Makati Peninsula in late May, go for it!

Goferring
03-31-22, 23:44
You mean to say you made all these plans and did not mention to her that you are flying her to Manila for sex?

+1. There is no need to insult the girl before meeting but intentions do need to be clear. This also leads into practical questions that Expat wants to cover off to prevent any disappointment on either side: will you be getting married at the end of your stay? Will she be on her period for 5 days of that week? Etc.

Remember that all pinas are notoriously unreliable so, despite best intentions, there are 100 ways a preplanned meeting could fall apart. Have a backup plan.

Enjoy. G.

GDreams
04-01-22, 03:27
With the girl I'm talking to (and her aunt), I will be flying in her from CDO. Just an FYI before you buy a ticket. Make sure they have ID to be able to get onto the flight in the first place. I just found out last night she does not have proper ID (just school ID which she lost). When I researched it apparently the airlines will allow someone on with photo school ID (I was surprised), however I have told her to the postal ID (which can take up to 30 days) to get and costs about 500 php.Always say I need to see a copy of the ID before you buy the ticket.

AsianPursuits
04-01-22, 06:39
For my upcoming trip I have an option to fly in a girl from the provinces for a few days. I like to keep this as an option and I will make a final decision in the final week at which time I'll buy a one way fare. That leaves me with an option as to how soon to send her home. The reason I am considering this option is that a) she has not had kids, still great body, b) saves me having to hunt around on the first night if she meets me on arrival.

At this stage I am still holding off on dating apps until 1-2 weeks prior to arrival.

Anyway can't wait.

AsianPursuits
04-01-22, 06:41
Some posters have talked about meeting tiktok Filipinas. What is the methodology for creating a list of potentials via tiktok.

I'm over 30 years old so do not understand the app. But would like to fuck 21 year old dancers.

Expat American
04-01-22, 06:56
You mean to say you made all these plans and did not mention to her that you are flying her to Manila for sex?

That is the first thing I do when I get them to chat on social sites. If they say they are not like that or any stupid shit reason not to have sex with me I dump them. Once they say they agree for sex then the plans can be made about how much per day etc. I always make sure amount is agreed before so that the girl does not think I am paying 10000 pesos per day. To tell you the truth such amount has been requested by a Japanese karaoke hostess working in Manila very pretty cam to cam. I told her I am not Japanese LOL. Finally we agreed for 3000 and the covid hit.I plan to make it clear before I meet her that sex is required. I was not planning to offer her money for it upfront (she doesn't strike me as a non pro and hasnt told me any sad stories) but will give her a gift at the end anyways. I just meant I was going to warm her up for a bit before broaching sex. But really, any girl who will get on a plane and fly to stay in a hotel with a guy knows what will happen.

Sammon
04-01-22, 11:54
I plan to make it clear before I meet her that sex is required. I was not planning to offer her money for it upfront (But really, any girl who will get on a plane and fly to stay in a hotel with a guy knows what will happen.With philipinas it is open question. Sometimes even girls with kids come across as two day old virgins. Many times they say they are looking for marriage. Granted, most girls in the world do want stable life wherein guy takes care of her and her kids. Especially so in Philippines.

Unless you are planning to get serious and playing romance game it is better to openly express your demands.

Money has to be given in Philippines. Single mothers always need money. Giving silly gifts is not good. Some girls are shy about asking for money. But be generous. Do not take advantage of poor girls. Many girls say it is up to you when broaching money matter.

Goferring
04-01-22, 13:01
Unless you are planning to get serious and playing romance game it is better to openly express your demands.

Money has to be given in Philippines. Single mothers always need money. Giving silly gifts is not good. Some girls are shy about asking for money. But be generous. Do not take advantage of poor girls. Many girls say it is up to you when broaching money matter.#1: Totally agree. Nothing worse than guys, at best, leading girls on or, at worst, outright lying to them about romantic intentions just to get her into bed. 1/ it's a dickhead move and 2/ it's totally unnecessary. (Note: I'm not suggesting that was Expat's intentions). RANT OFF 😁.

#2:. Sort of. There are girls out there who are insulted when offered cash and give honest refusals and girls that only want true taxi fare ('00's not '000's of pesos). Occasionally this is part of a long term play but it's often genuine. I'd agree in the vast majority of cases when payment or 'gifts' are appropriate then be generous.

Enjoy. G.

Dg8787
04-01-22, 13:25
I plan to make it clear before I meet her that sex is required. I was not planning to offer her money for it upfront (she doesn't strike me as a non pro and hasnt told me any sad stories) but will give her a gift at the end anyways. I just meant I was going to warm her up for a bit before broaching sex. But really, any girl who will get on a plane and fly to stay in a hotel with a guy knows what will happen.There are some girls that will get on a plane to meet a prospective BF and not KNOW what is going to happen. Especially an innocent girl on a dating site looking for love.

Do not make assumptions. Make it clear and known what your expectations are and what her's are up front.

As stated all girls are in need of money for survival and daily needs. Major reason why they are on the dating site is for survival and a BF taking care of them equals love. Pass the money discreetly and face saving. Insisting it is a gift.

GDreams
04-01-22, 14:06
There are some girls that will get on a plane to meet a prospective BF and not KNOW what is going to happen. Especially an innocent girl on a dating site looking for love.

Do not make assumptions. Make it clear and known what your expectations are and what her's are up front.

As stated all girls are in need of money for survival and daily needs. Major reason why they are on the dating site is for survival and a BF taking care of them equals love. Pass the money discreetly and face saving. Insisting it is a gift.I plan to visit in June. Talked to a girl from Tacloban if she wants to meet in Manila, I have been chatting with her on and off for 6 months. She said yes then 4 hrs later she said her mother said no. I wasn't seriously expecting her to come but she has a nice hot figure so worth asking at least.

Member #4794
04-03-22, 08:46
I plan to visit in June. Talked to a girl from Tacloban if she wants to meet in Manila, I have been chatting with her on and off for 6 months. She said yes then 4 hrs later she said her mother said no. I wasn't seriously expecting her to come but she has a nice hot figure so worth asking at least.I'm in that area pass along the contact details.

Member #4794
04-03-22, 09:00
I have had less luck on these apps than usual this trip, I have had better luck cruising the barangays in person and picking up newly single moms and single girls.

I don't know if its due to the influx of guys that are not serious and are sending money to these girls basically incel / beta / simps that have been totally cut off from any interaction with women so these women have seem to be flooded with disingenuous flirtation.

I think these girls have kind of given up on these dating apps as there hasnt been a large influx of tourists and as they are not in country they seem less interested even if I state that I am in country ready to drop a few pesos on them.

I did manage to land a few off Dateisasia this round but far fewer than I usually do. Like I said I have had better luck this time around actually walking the street and talking to people in and around the barangays just being open with them that I'm looking for single women. You would be surprised at the extremely high quality that is just sitting there with no load waiting for a break and "support". These kind of girls I don't actually PAY persay I usually buy them phones after a week or so, or buy a TV ect. I of course provide a budget for food and hair ect. So in-essence I do not pay these girls a FEE like I do in AC its more I provide living essentials that is well over their usually quality of life. In good faith however I do tend to leave them with an amount I deem as fair depending on the length of time we spend together minus the gifts I outlaid. All said and done I budget about 2000 a day and if I haven't given her gifts that amount to that much I total the amount at the end of out time together and send them off with a sometimes sizable tip. Not a bad deal for GFE and unlimited amounts of sex imo. These apps are still viable but less and less so as time goes on at least in my case.

Transporter
04-03-22, 21:07
Looks like we pretty much have the same approach.


I have had less luck on these apps than usual this trip, I have had better luck cruising the barangays in person and picking up newly single moms and single girls.

I don't know if its due to the influx of guys that are not serious and are sending money to these girls basically incel / beta / simps that have been totally cut off from any interaction with women so these women have seem to be flooded with disingenuous flirtation.

I think these girls have kind of given up on these dating apps as there hasnt been a large influx of tourists and as they are not in country they seem less interested even if I state that I am in country ready to drop a few pesos on them.

I did manage to land a few off Dateisasia this round but far fewer than I usually do. Like I said I have had better luck this time around actually walking the street and talking to people in and around the barangays just being open with them that I'm looking for single women. You would be surprised at the extremely high quality that is just sitting there with no load waiting for a break and "support". These kind of girls I don't actually PAY persay I usually buy them phones after a week or so, or buy a TV ect. I of course provide a budget for food and hair ect. So in-essence I do not pay these girls a FEE like I do in AC its more I provide living essentials that is well over their usually quality of life. In good faith however I do tend to leave them with an amount I deem as fair depending on the length of time we spend together minus the gifts I outlaid. All said and done I budget about 2000 a day and if I haven't given her gifts that amount to that much I total the amount at the end of out time together and send them off with a sometimes sizable tip. Not a bad deal for GFE and unlimited amounts of sex imo. These apps are still viable but less and less so as time goes on at least in my case.

KongKing
04-04-22, 05:56
Looks like we pretty much have the same approach.Instead of quoting MontanaMonger's story which is just the next scroll-down, could I respectfully suggest you just snip relevant parts (like Westcoast). Otherwise you are just chogging up the board with your one-liner plus quote.

PedroMorales
04-08-22, 16:14
I am corresponding with a pleasant fraudster, most likely Nigerian, pretending to be a Cypriot but using Italian email. She says she can't reply at once as she has to return home to use her computer, IE no phone, not that I asked. Poor fraudster has lost her job in a holiday resort due to Covid but that resort should be packed now with Europeans pouring into it.

As every day is a school day, I am dutifully playing along but waiting for the foot fall (is that what you say in who dunnits?) So what are her options and this game of 4 in a line (I don't think she would be up to chess, or checkers for that matter).

1. Need phone to deepen our relationship.

2. Plane ticket.

3. Needs to transfer sudden $$ into my account.

4. Sick cat / mother / neighbor / pimp.

Sammon
04-08-22, 21:45
I am corresponding with a pleasant fraudster, most likely Nigerian, pretending to be a Cypriot but using Italian email. She says she can't reply at once as she has to return home to use her computer, IE no phone, not that I asked. Poor fraudster has lost her job in a holiday resort due to Covid but that resort should be packed now with Europeans pouring into it.

As every day is a school day, I am dutifully playing along but waiting for the foot fall (is that what you say in who dunnits?) So what are her options and this game of 4 in a line (I don't think she would be up to chess, or checkers for that matter).

1. Need phone to deepen our relationship.

2. Plane ticket.

3. Needs to transfer sudden $$ into my account.

4. Sick cat / mother / neighbor / pimp.Worst is a girl claiming she has not eaten for a month. That must be longest to survive without food. Even Muslims during Ramadan eat their hearts content at night.

PedroMorales
04-08-22, 23:42
Worst is a girl claiming she has not eaten for a month. That must be longest to survive without food. Even Muslims during Ramadan eat their hearts content at night.Indeed. Alas, this lady's parents are both dead. She lives alone, even though she does not work. She hopes there is a white knight, I, on the Meseta, perhaps near La Mancha, where Don Quixote saved (non Nigerian) damsels in times gone by. I am intrigued by no phone. I look forward to seeing how she intends to ask for money (if she does).

I am also impressed by the ability of Nigerians to learn the names of minor Mediterranean resorts. Perhaps the Nigerian is Italian based, though I suspect they switch email addresses around.

There is a funny guy in Youtube, Robert Browning, I think he calls himself. He is a menace to Indian IT scammers as he reverse engineers their conneciton and screws up their machines. I think they have a bounty out on him.

The online Romance scam was, I believe, invented by a Pinay.

PedroMorales
04-10-22, 10:28
It seems the love of my life has no phone. She spent the last few days with her aunt (I hope, for my bank balance, she is well) and remarked that she could not reply as she was not home where she has Internet but no job or family.

I'd imagine she needs a new smart phone but I do wosh she would put more effort into scamming me.


I am corresponding with a pleasant fraudster, I am dutifully playing along but waiting for the foot fall (is that what you say in who dunnits?)
1. Need phone to deepen our relationship.

2. Plane ticket.

3. Needs to transfer sudden $$ into my account.

4. Sick cat / mother / neighbor / pimp.

J Janni
04-10-22, 19:47
Talking to a Pinay on Facebook. Good girl.

Poor. From the provinces. Never met a foreigner. Only one pinoy boyfriend.

Sends me a picture taken of her (not a selfie) in a hotel room.

PedroMorales
04-10-22, 22:43
Never met a foreigner..Maybe she does not regard the entire US 7th Fleet as foreigners. My own lady is moving too slowly. Two-three days and too banal.

AsianPursuits
04-10-22, 23:01
Sends me a picture taken of her (not a selfie) in a hotel room.Filipinas will travel together and stay in nice hotels especially if their OFW relative arrives home and is paying. They will also pack 3-4 girls per room.

Of course they also stay with us when we are paying, so no discrimination there.

PedroMorales
04-11-22, 09:56
Checked email this morning. The scammer asks me how am I. I feel like replying that, as an ISG member, I need instant gratification and would she please get on with the scam as I haven't all day. If anyone knows what the word in crime novels for hearing the foot of the killer / detective land on the carpet, please tell me.

Though I am mildly interested in seeing how her trap works, I want her to get on with it. She now calls me "love" but this is not dating in Sicily after World War 2. We need some urgency in this.

A thought occurred to me that this might be some ISG nutter amusing himself by stringing along mugs. I once put a fake ad in for an experiment but I had to withdraw it after a few hours as I was flooded with replies. Hookers tell me the amount of dicks sending dick pics is unreal and the same goes for phone calls. I see it is as guys getting cheap thrills.

I find my counter surveillance good as I can spot many of the fake ads on locanto and similar sites. There is a very dark side to all of this and it is good to know of it and how to avoid it.

Sammon
04-11-22, 12:11
Talking to a Pinay on Facebook. Good girl.

Poor. From the provinces. Never met a foreigner. Only one pinoy boyfriend.

Sends me a picture taken of her (not a selfie) in a hotel room.Local boys do take them to hotel and resorts. Families do allow them to have boyfriends and to go with boyfriends. How do you think many Philippine girls have babies out of wedlock?

Families may not allow them to go stay with a foreigner. When I had flown in girls from province they usually lie saying they are visiting their friends, looking for a job or any other myriad reasons. Just like anywhere else friends are there to substantiate their story.

AsianPursuits
04-19-22, 02:31
I broke my rule of not initiating any dating sites until closer to my arrival. In my spare time over Easter I had to peruse pinalove and saw one of my old flames was still on there and active.

I seems just about every decent profile is now considered "premium" and requires a subscription to contact. I coughed up the USD25 for a one month subscription and messaged her. I didn't hear from her but it did trigger a million other contacts. I'll give her a day to reply and then pause my profile as I don't want to be juggling all of these contacts until I'm there.

I really do not think I will get much work done while I'm there.

So, for the record, there is no need to hit any dating sites until just days prior to arrival.

Goferring
04-20-22, 04:27
So, for the record, there is no need to hit any dating sites until just days prior to arrival.Even better: there is no need to hit any dating sites until you are in town.

"I'm shopping in SM. Let's meet after class" is much more reliable, successful and cheaper than "I'm in Nebraska, let's meet next week, if I arrive".

Enjoy. G.

AsianPursuits
04-20-22, 07:32
Even better: there is no need to hit any dating sites until you are in town.

"I'm shopping in SM. Let's meet after class" is much more reliable, successful and cheaper than "I'm in Nebraska, let's meet next week, if I arrive"..I connected to the one I was wanting. I've taken my profile off line. I'm still thinking a couple of days gives me time to weed out the solid pros.

But, OMG, how sweet are the pinay, I had forgotten how pleasant the right ones are.

Mr Enternational
04-20-22, 12:09
Even better: there is no need to hit any dating sites until you are in town.

"I'm shopping in SM. Let's meet after class" is much more reliable, successful and cheaper than "I'm in Nebraska, let's meet next week, if I arrive".Yeah. But a couple of days out you can lie and say you are already there. You can say you are busy in the next couple of days but will be free Thursday afternoon.

Soapy Smith
04-20-22, 18:02
Yeah. But a couple of days out you can lie and say you are already there. Great plan. And, of course, we have the ongoing grievance that Filipinas lie. Perhaps as Westerners we're entitled.

AsianPursuits
04-20-22, 23:47
Yeah. But a couple of days out you can lie and say you are already there. You can say you are busy in the next couple of days but will be free Thursday afternoon.My preference is always to say I'm arriving a week later than actual. It's easier to pull one girl forward who will happily meet than it is to pushback / delay girls whom know you are giving other girls priority.

Sammon
04-21-22, 12:09
Great plan. And, of course, we have the ongoing grievance that Filipinas lie. Perhaps as Westerners we're entitled.They say all is fair in Lust And War or is it Love and War!

I was talking to a very pretty 18 year old girl.

Me- Do you want to stay with me when I come there.

She- Sure.

Me- How many days.

She- up to you.

Me- okay I will let you know the dates.

Fast forward few weeks.

Me- I am booked to come there on such and such a day. Can you meet me at airport so that that we can check in together.

She- I talked to my mother and she does not allow me to stay with men.

Me- we do not need to tell your mother. You had agreed before.

She- I tell everything to my mother.

Me- you are not a virgin right?

She- No.

Me- Then you told your mother how and when you lost your virginity?

She- I do not tell my mother that.

Me- Then you lied to your mother?

She- No. You are mean.

CLICK!

AsianPursuits
04-21-22, 23:00
Me- Then you lied to your mother?

She- No. You are mean.The reason we love these girls is because of this logic. Hopefully you have a backup.

I recall one single mum tell me she had never slept with a man. Technically she was right because she had never 'slept' while with one of her many men / bfs / foreigners.

Goferring
04-22-22, 21:51
The reason we love these girls is because of this logic. Hopefully you have a backup.

I recall one single mum tell me she had never slept with a man. Technically she was right because she had never 'slept' while with one of her many men / bfs / foreigners.I've had many girls on the various websites' Most Popular lists tell me that I'm the first foreigner that they have chatted with.

I also had a girl in Sabang tell me that she was a newbie, in town for only a few days. The mamasan even backed up her story. They both did a double take when I asked her to go get her twin sister because she was a great fuck three years ago.

You can't take it personally. Mongerring is a lot like entering a parallel universe sometimes. 😃.

AsianPursuits
04-25-22, 14:15
I've had many girls on the various websites' Most Popular lists tell me that I'm the first foreigner that they have chatted with.Another long weekend and I made the dating profile active for an hour, in that short time I line up an amazing 40 yo, no marriage, no kids, 5'0" degree qualified sweetie for a working evening date. Hmmm how mush of it will turn out, who knows. My target age group is 21-28 so I may not ever meet he 40 year ld.

I find that Filipina 30+ are looking for father material. 40+ they are definitely wanting overseas visa.

Member #1088
04-26-22, 21:58
There are 3 in a row that I contacted for future trips.

All 3 claimed to be untouched and all 3 wish me to make them a baby.

Even if I not live with them in long term.

All college students, is that normal?

Mr Enternational
04-26-22, 22:09
There are 3 in a row that I contacted for future trips. All 3 claimed to be untouched and all 3 wish me to make them a baby. Even if I not live with them in long term. All college students, is that normal?Yes it is true for women all over the world. And with a vasectomy I get to act like I am trying to make one with them.

AsianPursuits
04-26-22, 22:47
There are 3 in a row that I contacted for future trips.

All 3 claimed to be untouched and all 3 wish me to make them a baby.

Even if I not live with them in long term.

All college students, is that normal?I had a Filipina use the exact same line with me this week. I have seen her before covid years and we did like each other. But if she is serious on the baby idea then I won't be meeting her.

I do have one thought bubble is that maybe, just maybe, girls with foreigner babies did better during the covid pandemic. Fathers continued to send money and support their sprogs whereas foreigner sponsors without baby connection were less generous. Now coming out of pandemic, if a girl can secure her future income with a foreigner baby, all the better for her. Easier than studying for three years.

Goferring
04-26-22, 23:44
There are 3 in a row that I contacted for future trips.

All 3 claimed to be untouched and all 3 wish me to make them a baby.

Even if I not live with them in long term.

All college students, is that normal?There are millions of abandoned kids and mother's throughout the Phillipines so the worst case scenario for her is that she ends up like all her friends and sisters, the best case is that a soft touch guy sends her monthly support and she lives happily ever after. There are also pie in the sky deams that John will bundle them up and bring them to Visa-land or that her hansom mixed kid will grow up to be a famous sopie star.

Member #1088
04-27-22, 18:40
Yes it is true for women all over the world. And with a vasectomy I get to act like I am trying to make one with them.Yes, I have one tell me, that she got a kid from me, but when I told her about the vasectomy, she got so angry and then we broke.

Figures.

D Cups
04-27-22, 23:41
There are millions of abandoned kids and mother's throughout the Phillipines so the worst case scenario for her is that she ends up like all her friends and sisters, the best case is that a soft touch guy sends her monthly support and she lives happily ever after. There are also pie in the sky dreams that John will bundle them up and bring them to Visa-land or that her hansom mixed kid will grow up to be a famous sopie star.True. I support my son here in PI and pay for his mom's rent for a total of $250/ month. A lot for them but not much for me because I am living well in a dream house in a Philippine jungle mountain province on American retirement income. Eventually we will get all the paperwork together for his USA Citizenship and I would like him to live with my GF and I here in Valencia and go to school here through the university level. Meanwhile, I asked my big boobed 21 year old former Miss San Jose GF if she would go on birth control and she said no. So who knows maybe she will provide a sibling for my son. It's ok to me. Living in PI even raising kids is a fraction of the USA costs which continue to soar out of control. Even college is cheap here so I'm sending my GF back to school to finish her education degree in physical education because she will be a teacher. I also offered to send my son's mother in Pampanga to culinary school but she might be too lazy for that. Additionally, my 5 year old will be taking drum lessons and eventually xylophone while the GF will be taking private bass lessons from an older Filipino rocker who is in a good local rock band and likes to teach music on the side. After all, I have a complete music studio in my basement here for all my musician friends who visit and jam. I play rhythm guitar, background vocals, mostly 70's light rock. It's great fun as any musician knows. Mongering? Hell yes. Got to be discreet obviously preferably out of town and preferably off island. But that is what Angeles, Subic and Cebu are for! Roundtrip tix Duma to CEB to Clark is $120 on Cebu Pacificair.

Goferring
04-28-22, 03:27
True. I support my son here in PI and pay for his mom's rent for a total of $250/ month. A lot for them but not much for me.... Settle down Tonto. You've just arrived. 😁.

I once saw a new expat arrive. The ink wasn't even dry on his contract and daughter gets enrolled in a flash private school, a pool is going into the back yard, mum is getting a new kitchen. It went on and on and on. Until work circumstances changed and his overseas contract wasnt renewed. Back home on a good but not great salary and now he has to pay for all the new stuff.

No offense, but I've seen many guys arrive and piss it away faster than they think, so take care.

Dad lecture over.

Cheers. G.

AsianPursuits
04-28-22, 03:31
I received this schedule of prices for Video chats. I have no interested but the prices are more realistic than what I see being asked in USD.

P10 per minute.

Cbea20
04-28-22, 03:55
The original poster mentioned that he lives on retirement income. So presumably he can plan for the indefinite future, allowing for inflation but not for "unemployment". Also, it appears that he lives in or outside Dumaguete, perhaps up in Valencia. (he says jungle mountain province, and that can be misleading, because there is a Mountain Province in Phs. , the only province with an English name.) Anyway, for that area $250 is just about right for single mother with small child--for her regular attention and service, that is. But those of us who have raised children anywhere know that they cost more every year. The best schools, even beginning kindergarten, in the Phs are comparable in cost to good private schools in the USA. And like them there are many financial demands in addition to tuition.

Speaking of schools, in-person or face-to-face classes are ramping up, with children due to return in a few weeks. Many MILFs, and also childless older sisters, are desperate to fund back-to-school supplies, shoes, and uniforms.


Settle down Tonto. You've just arrived. 😁.

I once saw a new expat arrive. The ink wasn't even dry on his contract and daughter gets enrolled in a flash private school, a pool is going into the back yard, mum is getting a new kitchen. It went on and on and on. Until work circumstances changed and his overseas contract wasnt renewed. Back home on a good but not great salary and now he has to pay for all the new stuff.

No offense, but I've seen many guys arrive and piss it away faster than they think, so take care.

Dad lecture over.

Cheers. G.

Goferring
04-28-22, 08:38
Speaking of schools, in-person or face-to-face classes are ramping up, with children due to return in a few weeks. Many MILFs, and also childless older sisters, are desperate to fund back-to-school supplies, shoes, and uniforms.You're right. Mongers can benefit greatly from knowing the academic calendar. Accidently arriving in Cebu once, the week before exam season started, served me very well. ☺.

Enjoy. G.

D Cups
04-28-22, 13:13
The original poster mentioned that he lives on retirement income. So presumably he can plan for the indefinite future, allowing for inflation but not for "unemployment". Also, it appears that he lives in or outside Dumaguete, perhaps up in Valencia. (he says jungle mountain province, and that can be misleading, because there is a Mountain Province in Phs. , the only province with an English name.) Anyway, for that area $250 is just about right for single mother with small child--for her regular attention and service, that is. But those of us who have raised children anywhere know that they cost more every year. The best schools, even beginning kindergarten, in the Phs are comparable in cost to good private schools in the USA. And like them there are many financial demands in addition to tuition.

Speaking of schools, in-person or face-to-face classes are ramping up, with children due to return in a few weeks. Many MILFs, and also childless older sisters, are desperate to fund back-to-school supplies, shoes, and uniforms.Correct on all counts, CB. Retired. Valencia. So far, costs have not been an issue to me considering I immigrated from California. Cheers. BTW, G, I am 66 and my new beau is 21, former Miss San Jose [Deleted by Admin].

WestCoast1
04-28-22, 14:35
Speaking of schools, in-person or face-to-face classes are ramping up, with children due to return in a few weeks. Many MILFs, and also childless older sisters, are desperate to fund back-to-school supplies, shoes, and uniforms.Great news for the gents. Cheers!

Member #1088
04-29-22, 16:09
You're right. Mongers can benefit greatly from knowing the academic calendar. Accidently arriving in Cebu once, the week before exam season started, served me very well. ☺.

Enjoy. G.How to find the calendar year?

Goferring
04-29-22, 20:21
How to find the calendar year?Ask around or quiz online students when their next exams are.

Typically April and late Nov / early Dec. At least in Cebu.

Enjoy. G.

Wicked Roger
04-29-22, 23:01
How to find the calendar year?Visit any of the decent college web sites and find the academic year calendar.

Even by not doing that you will know soon enough via the chat.

Sammon
04-29-22, 23:18
Visit any of the decent college web sites and find the academic year calendar.

Even by not doing that you will know soon enough via the chat.It is a myth that college students only hook during exam time. There are some who hook all the time to support their lifestyle, tuition fees, accommodation rent, food etc. I have been with many and they always have needs. Many of them live alone and their hometowns are far. Not all will be available for foreigners. Local rich guys married or unmarried keep them as consorts and help them financially.

One girl who was staying with me asked me out of the blue if I want her friend. She told me her friend needs some quick money to pay bills. Who am I to say no. I said both of them can stay and have fun with me rest of my vacation for a generous amount.

So do not wrack your brains about best time to get college girls.

By the way have you ever noticed my target group of 18-30 girls all say they are in college? Who knows if they are really studying or come across as such.

Goferring
04-30-22, 04:34
It is a myth that college students only hook during exam time.....

By the way have you ever noticed my target group of 18-30 girls all say they are in college? Who knows if they are really studying or come across as such.1/ I'd agree that true students are on the hunt for funding twelve month a year. What I was suggesting was slightly different. Namely, that the exam times present an opportunity as it's a couple of times a year where many girls need a reasonable amount of pesos all at the same time, on top of their normal monthly expenses.

I'd regard it similar to the Christmas and Holy Week clamour for bus fares so that city girls can go home.

2/ Hahahaha. Many "students" I've met haven't seen an exercise book for a loooong time.

Girls are going to school and we are going scuba diving. Same-same cover stories. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

AsianPursuits
05-02-22, 22:38
The best time to date a college girl is 'now'.

You can tell a legitimate college student by their adherence to an actual timetable. They are penalized if they miss classes. The online zoom equivalent is that they have to have their video camera on during classes so they can't slip out while classes are on. A bargirl / freelancer will skip a shift for peso but a student will be less likely to miss class.

AsianPursuits
05-03-22, 23:44
I did turn on my dating profiles as part of the pre-arrival strategy.

As others have mentioned the time frame has really decreased now. I was overwhelmed with traffic, maybe because of my good looks, worldly insights, witty banter or more likely I'm just a male with money.

I turned off the profiles after one day.

From a documenting point of view I started a list for each city with name, phone, original dating link. Initial girls that looked promising were often knocked down the list by the next shinny object. Some have stayed on top by being sensible and witty.

Usual collection of gays, LBs, professionals that get ruled out from dating activities.

Many really genuine girls.

AsianPursuits
05-05-22, 21:58
There is some reason to start some dating profile action in the days prior to arrival. It does provide a window to filter out the true professionals and get a feel for whom will be reliable.

In another observation after using these sites for 10+ years there are some high quality regular girls on there at the moment. I think COVID and lockdowns has pushed some girls to not wasting their romance life any more.

One 40 year old engineer, unmarried, no kids, tongue piercing, bolt-on boobs. The 40 yo is on now on my standby list as she's a little too 'pinay' nosey into my affairs.

One 28 year old medical grad, no kids, no pinoy BF. Interesting woman but she's going to be inexperienced in bedroom.

I have been winding down the filters to 21-26 yo which for me is the sweet spot for this trip. Any girl outside of an immediate travel zone of 10-20 kms is also ruled out.

After two years of western dating sites in my own country it is all such a nice relief.

Kitty Doctor
05-17-22, 18:03
Do any of you gentlemen know of or recommend a site to post an ad looking for P4P encounter?

I'm looking for a pregnant women. I know it is weird but it is a fantasy of mine. I'm not able to find any pregnant at the clubs, or escort sites so I was thinking about posting an ad searching for one.

If you have any recommendations for where to post in the NCR area I would love to know.

AsianPursuits
05-17-22, 23:41
Do any of you gentlemen know of or recommend a site to post an ad looking for P4P encounter?

I'm looking for a pregnant women. I know it is weird but it is a fantasy of mine. I'm not able to find any pregnant at the clubs, or escort sites so I was thinking about posting an ad searching for one.

If you have any recommendations for where to post in the NCR area I would love to know.I would put it on Tinder or Badoo on a fresh dedicated account for this purpose. Those two seem to have more location features which will help you with your filtering. Put what you want in the description. Obviously use some discretion but certainly list the pregnancy requirement.

If it's well worded, then you could also expect that a friend of a friend would pass on the details to the pregnant ones.

You might want to also express the number of months that you want.

I had one pregnant girl in Angeles but she was a call back to a previous meeting pre-pandemic. She is now 7 months pregnant which gave me the look and feeling I wanted.

Goferring
05-18-22, 00:48
I would put it on Tinder or Badoo on a fresh dedicated account for this purpose. Those two seem to have more location features which will help you with your filtering. Put what you want in the description. Obviously use some discretion but certainly list the pregnancy requirement.

Filipino Cupid also has pretty good filtering options and I've come across a few pregos. Might be worth a try to develop a profile saying your looking to support an expectant mother.

I'd agree that word will spread quickly amongst friends of friends especially if you are intown now.

Good luck. G.

AsianPursuits
05-29-22, 22:51
Some of the stories that we get from the girls can be quite heart breaking. I'm really not sure if this is a story for money or sympathy or in fact a true event.

At the 5 month point of her pregnancy she took 4 x day after pills and forced herself to have a mis-carriage. Family delivered the dead foetus at home. She sent me a pic of that little person.

Whether she did that or made up the story for some kind of angle on me I will never know.

It does however remind us of what a tough life it can be in Ph when we scratch further than we need.

Sammon
05-30-22, 13:06
Some of the stories that we get from the girls can be quite heart breaking. I'm really not sure if this is a story for money or sympathy or in fact a true event.

At the 5 month point of her pregnancy she took 4 x day after pills and forced herself to have a mis-carriage. Family delivered the dead foetus at home. She sent me a pic of that little person.

Whether she did that or made up the story for some kind of angle on me I will never know.

It does however remind us of what a tough life it can be in Ph when we scratch further than we need.Not believable. She would know right away if she is pregnant not wait for 5 months unless the guy suddenly abandoned her. As much I know about Philippine girls, very few go for abortion. There are plenty of single girls with babies. Families also do not mind taking care of the baby. Photos can be done many ways. One time a girl sent me picture of supposedly dying father on bed. After few months she contacted me to see if I am in Philippines. Asked how her father is she said he was never sick. She has completely forgotten she sent me the picture. Another time a girl sent me a dead picture of her sister. But forgot about it later.

Everything they say should be taken in with a grain of salt.

Just stick to chat, meet and have fun. If you start sending money before meeting there will be more demands. After meeting if you like her you can support her from time to time.

Pute Nut
05-30-22, 15:23
Everything they say should be taken in with a grain of salt.Or maybe several.

A girl from Davao contacted me a couple weeks after our romantic rendezvous and claimed she was preggy with my baby. I always make notes of my conquests, and also I remembered having used condoms with her. I simply replied "no you're NOT preggy with my baby, remember I used condoms", to which she just replied "Oh OK!" and tried to casually continue the convo. Needless to say she was off my contact list.

This preggy thing is something they may try if they think they smell weakness. It's just a test. Better girls will not try to pull this shit on you, at least not knowingly.

Mr Enternational
05-30-22, 15:26
Some of the stories that we get from the girls can be quite heart breaking. I'm really not sure if this is a story for money or sympathy or in fact a true event.

Whether she did that or made up the story for some kind of angle on me I will never know. It does however remind us of what a tough life it can be in Ph when we scratch further than we need.Tough life? Compared to what? Your life? They live it just fine. You can't miss what you never had. My car is a 1998. It gets me around fine, I keep it up, and have no problems with it. Yet there are probably people driving a 2022 Tesla having pity on me because I have to buy gas instead of plug my car in and my car does not drive itself. To tell the truth I do not even have a desire for a car as such and if someone gave me the money to buy one, I would spend it in other ways instead.

The point is not to pity someone that does not have what you have, especially when you do not see them out dying in the street and have no idea whether they even want what you have. And learn to think, "What the fuck does that have to do with me?

The most simple solution if you do not want to get pregnant is do not fuck. If you were fucking and got pregnant you knew the risks and whether or not you could afford to have a baby. I have no sympathy. Once again the old adage applies, "What the fuck that got to do with me?

AsianPursuits
05-30-22, 22:03
Not believable. She would know right away if she is pregnant not wait for 5 months unless the guy suddenly abandoned her. As much I know about Philippine girls, very few go for abortion. There are plenty of single girls with babies.Yep I agree. The country is littered with unfathered babies so one more would not be too much to worry. Maybe the story works on someone whom is already sending her some money and she was just trying it on me.

SarasotaJoe
05-31-22, 02:52
She sent me a pic of that little person. I've been sent a pic of a fetus before. It's been awhile and I cannot remember the details of the story, but they were probably similar.

Other memorable pleas for "budget" include the picture of blood in a toilet (bloody stools. Talk about a turn off! Deceased relatives of all types, and the all-too-common no formula for baby (which of course now also happens to be a very American story as well!

One time a girl sent me a picture of what she said was her house on fire, it having supposedly burned down a few days earlier. Using details from the picture, I tracked down the location and then did a Google search with "fire" and "-place name-" and sure enough found the same picture on the front page of a local newspaper. From several years earlier! And of course a local newspaper not anywhere close to where my friend actually lived.


A girl from Davao contacted me a couple weeks after our romantic rendezvous and claimed she was preggy with my baby.I can one up you on that preggy story. 11 months after shagging a girl a few times over the course of a weekend, I get a call from her (and then her father!) saying that she has just given birth to my child. After clarifying to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding something (such is common in the PI) it was clear that baby was four days old and that they really believed it was mine. Now I don't know about you guys, but eleven months of gestation, even in the Phils, seems a bit much to me! Later I saw baby on FB and confirmed it looked nothing like me (it was "pure Filipino", as they say).


"What the fuck does that have to do with me?" Finally, let me just say that while I may not be as credulous as AsianPursuits, I'm also not as callous as Mr Enternational. I enjoy pipelining. In fact it's one of my primary forms of entertainment outside of work, especially when I have a trip on the books. In doing so I truly am trying to develop meaningful friendships with the ladies that I ultimately hope to bed. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't (develop true friendships, or bed them), but I don't find it that hard to afford them a modicum of sympathy (and even respect for their entrepreneurial nerve), even when I don't believe their stories for a second.

My standard response: "I'm so sorry to hear that. I hear similar stories from so many of my friends there in the Philippines. I wish I could help everyone. Maybe when I see you next I will be able to help just a little so that things can be better. " Almost always such a response is met with understanding and respect and it preserves the possibility of both of us accomplishing our desired ends down the line in a way that "What the fuck does that have to do with me?" might not. Being kind doesn't really cost me anything. Pinays are good women and I for one don't want bitterness to harden them into the monstrosities that are many Western women.

Expat American
06-20-22, 07:18
Some of the stories that we get from the girls can be quite heart breaking. I'm really not sure if this is a story for money or sympathy or in fact a true event.

At the 5 month point of her pregnancy she took 4 x day after pills and forced herself to have a mis-carriage. Family delivered the dead foetus at home. She sent me a pic of that little person.

Whether she did that or made up the story for some kind of angle on me I will never know.

It does however remind us of what a tough life it can be in Ph when we scratch further than we need.Thats why I usually break up with and block the girl once I leave the PI. Don't want to deal with any stories later.

PedroMorales
06-28-22, 07:53
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10959651/Southwest-passenger-Detroit-Denver-flight-Airdrops-photo-GENITALS-board.html

Look at this American clown, air dropping an entire plane a video of himself getting a blow job. Though this American idiot obviously does not care about rules and laws, why do so many men send pictures of their dicks? Check out pinaylove etc, so many women say: don't send dick pics, as they are inundated with spammers and potential rapists flooding them with same.

What is it with perverts?

AsianPursuits
06-30-22, 22:21
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10959651/Southwest-passenger-Detroit-Denver-flight-Airdrops-photo-GENITALS-board.html

Look at this American clown, air dropping an entire plane a video of himself getting a blow job. Though this American idiot obviously does not care about rules and laws, why do so many men send pictures of their dicks? Check out pinaylove etc, so many women say: don't send dick pics, as they are inundated with spammers and potential rapists flooding them with same.

What is it with perverts?How is this really relevant to Philippines thread?

Mr Enternational
07-05-22, 05:20
At the 5 month point of her pregnancy she took 4 x day after pills and forced herself to have a mis-carriage. Family delivered the dead foetus at home. She sent me a pic of that little person.

Whether she did that or made up the story for some kind of angle on me I will never know.Maybe some of that shit is true, except I still can not see them announcing something they are supposed to be ashamed of.

"6 Filipina women a day die from complications following unsafe abortions, it is estimated."

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/jul/04/abortion-pills-facebook-filipina-women-philippines

Goferring
07-13-22, 08:39
Am I the only one who is being bombarded by spam invitations from DR girls on the Philippine hook up aps?

Many, many DR girls on FilCupid for some reason. Even their location is shown as the DR??

PedroMorales
07-13-22, 11:42
How is this really relevant to Philippines thread?Is.

Most of these chat groups are populated by male perverts who post pictures of their dicks. Many women say they don't want to see them but still the perverts persist. The reality is those sites attract an inordinate amount of perverts and I would like to know why, and why do Americans break the law by flashing their dicks to passengers on planes. I take it you are American. This thread is a good place to find such answers.

I see many folk here mocking the single moms who go out and sell themselves for their kids or who are just trying to nab a meal ticket, some lecherous American with a drooping dick. IMHO, those women are much greater people than the perverts, who also must be understood (and avoided).

Someone is asking about DR, Dominican Republic (I guess that is just Nigerians scamming all round. Although the love scam, catching perverts flashing their dicks is a Pinay invention and a nasty one at that, as it tends to honeytrap the young and gullible rather than ISG posters.

I was with two Pinays the day before yesterday, who had secured their meal tickets, one in Northern Spain and one in Andalusia. One was pretty, one was not. Simple women, simple dreams. Not into dicks being flashed at them. Not into me either but that is ok, as there is no accounting for taste. Or mad Americans who flash their dicks on planes.

Mr Enternational
07-13-22, 15:26
Am I the only one who is being bombarded by spam invitations from DR girls on the Philippine hook up aps?

Many, many DR girls on FilCupid for some reason. Even their location is shown as the DR??Well there are also Filipinas in PI on LatinAmericanCupid. Of course it is a scam because they usually only have 1 picture posted.

Member #1088
07-27-22, 14:09
So far two connections, requesting I help them invest online, ask me to donate money to her account.

LOL.

And they promise to stay with me when I visit PH.

Hahaha, new ways to get your money I guess.

AsianPursuits
07-27-22, 22:45
Hahaha, new ways to get your money I guess.I am surprised that we haven't seen mentions of financial requests for the 27 July earthquake yet.

I have an ex-wg contact that I know now lives in the north in Laoag. Although I am interested to know if she was impacted yesterday there is no point in asking as I know it's a question that will cost me P10,000 in earthquake relief.

Member #1088
07-28-22, 01:56
Today, I got contacted by someone using another girl sim.

She told me bought the sim and that it has many forieigners numbers that can help her by her giving cam.

I feel like I m being traded it hahahahaha.

AsianPursuits
09-06-22, 06:01
Just setup a new account as per previous visits.

When I try to message anyone it asks for photo verification. That's new. Usually I use a generic profile pic.

Seems I will have to cough up for a paid account at some point.

AsianPursuits
09-14-22, 22:43
After three days the photo verification requirement went away. So now I can free PL messaging is still a thing.

In the large provincial city where I will be visiting, there are 29 girls actively logging into PL each day. Let's say half of them are tyre kickers, of the remaining profiles half may not like me leaving me with a potential shortlist of 7 hotties.

I did a fake girls profile to check out the competition. There is one male profile in the search results for this city, just lonely me.

That's enough research for me to know things haven't changed and I should get a good response when I am serious.

I'm going to delete this profile and start again a few days before I arrive. I will pay a subscription at that time.

I have historically had good success with Tagged. My same profile there is mainly attracting the crypto scammers. Many profiles come up with the "You can't message, this profile is too popular right now". I know that is just annoying method for the site to encourage subscriptions.

Maybe Tagged is on the wane.

Member #1088
09-15-22, 18:21
https://www.pinalove.com/syandreaPH

What do you think guys?

AsianPursuits
09-15-22, 22:25
https://www.pinalove.com/syandreaPH

What do you think guys?Even through normal girls you will get referrals. The only reason this person is offering referrals is because they will be getting a cut.

BUT re-consider why you are on PL. In my case the reason I use PL is for a GFE and mini-romance. A referral from a Pimp. V2 is cross purpose.

Worthwhile having as a connection. May or may not be the girl in the pics.

There are so may choices in Ph, you don't need a pimp.

WestCoast1
09-15-22, 23:11
https://www.pinalove.com/syandreaPH

What do you think guys?1088 and others: I believe that PL links are visible only to those with an account.

Member #1088
09-17-22, 15:08
Last night I chatted with a "no BF since birth" girl that wanted a sugar relationship, I found her in pinalove.

Maybe she was a 4 or 5, but after talking to her, she was virgin to foreigner, she had a pinoy.

Well anyways, she wanted 8 K for a cam call (with restrictions).

She said her friends told she can get that and other foreigners has proposed that to her.

So I say thanks for your time but too high.

Are you being ask that high of a price for a simple cam (with restrictions)?

And she wanted me to visit her and she will reduce to only 20 k per week.

WestCoast1
09-17-22, 16:12
She said her friends told she can get that and other foreigners has proposed that to her.

SNIP

And she wanted me to visit her and she will reduce to only 20 k per week.They listen to their friends and acquaintances over you. Whatever her fam, friends, or acquaintances in the biz say to do, she will do it (no matter how bad their advice). A related story that I shared in PM and possibly on the open board, from 6-8 weeks ago. Early morning, Burgos, 7-11. Scene: Several older massage ladies have come to the street to ply the morning shift and get a massage client. Also still there from the night before with them is a guapa. And several homeless ladies, having coffee and shooting the sh*t. A man walks by on the street and several girls say: "Massage sir". He calls over the guapa to chat him. He nods his head "no" several times. She walks back over to the collective to kibitz. She explains that she told him 1500, he said 1000. The ladies (aka TPM, The Poon Mafia) urge her to go back and explain to him that its 1500. She walks back to the gent and explains. He nods his head "no". The guapa goes back to the collective and they tell her to stick to 1500. One of the older gals says to take the 1000. "You been in the street 3 days looking a client. Take the 1000". The other ladies urge her to push for 1500.

She walks back to the gent, tells him 1500, and he walks away. She turns to the collective and looks as if to say: "What? Now what?" Finally she bolts up to the street towards him yelling "Ok ok its one thousand". Ya buddy. They showed THAT guy.

Mr Enternational
09-17-22, 19:56
Well anyways, she wanted 8 K for a cam call (with restrictions). She said her friends told she can get that and other foreigners has proposed that to her.
So why did she not take any of the other foreigners up on it?

AsianPursuits
09-18-22, 01:05
Well anyways, she wanted 8 K for a cam call (with restrictions).

She said her friends told she can get that and other foreigners has proposed that to her.
So I say thanks for your time but too high.
And she wanted me to visit her and she will reduce to only 20 k per week.Of course we are being asked that. But we bat them away and just move on to our other opportunities. Just ignore those ones.

And more importantly leave your price points until you are in country.

Goferring
09-18-22, 11:47
They listen to their friends and acquaintances over you....They, both story recipient and teller, also extrapolate a single, high paying session to a new normal. A friend may have received a 8 k session and passed that info on, excluding that it was just a one off so that she looks like she is making a fortune.

Sammon
09-18-22, 13:18
Last night I chatted with a "no BF since birth" girl that wanted a sugar relationship, I found her in pinalove.

Maybe she was a 4 or 5, but after talking to her, she was virgin to foreigner, she had a pinoy.

Well anyways, she wanted 8 K for a cam call (with restrictions).

She said her friends told she can get that and other foreigners has proposed that to her.

So I say thanks for your time but too high.

Are you being ask that high of a price for a simple cam (with restrictions)?

And she wanted me to visit her and she will reduce to only 20 k per week.I am trolling DIA past couple of weeks looking to line up girls for my visit end of this month. Seems like no BF since birth is the theme now. This way they feel they are not committing to sex on meeting. This 26 year old girl said the same thing. When I said I want sex she agreed. Kept talking every day and all of a sudden money demands come. Anytime money demands or cam show comes up I stop chatting with them and block them. I only send money nowadays to known province girls for travel which is very little.

Have lined up two in Manila, one to meet me at the airport. Other one spare. Three in cebu. Agreed to pay 3000 per day which I think is fair. I like girls to stay couple of days each. Not into wham bam.

Yes, I have had outrageous demands like 8000 a day etc. Quite a lot of them are into cam shows. I do not know who sends money for that. You can get that free online anytime.

It is not easy to get normal girls. Eight out of ten need to reject for one reason or another. But persistence pays in my quest. I have exclusively used dating girls for a number of years now.

Rule us never send money before meeting. Exception is small amount like 500 to 800 for province girls to travel. If I lose it so be it.

Member #1088
09-18-22, 15:31
So why did she not take any of the other foreigners up on it?Thats that I told her, at that time, she proceded to unsent our chat (IG) and to delete.

Ah, and she want me to pay first hahahah.

Member #1088
09-18-22, 15:33
I am trolling DIA past couple of .......pays in my quest. I have exclusively used dating girls for a number of years now.

Rule us never send money before meeting. Exception is small amount like 500 to 800 for province girls to travel. If I lose it so be it.No 8000 per day, 8000 for a cam call with restrictions like only 15 min, no face, keep bra / panty. I just couldn't believe it.

AsianPursuits
09-18-22, 22:52
Last night I chatted with a "no BF since birth" girl that wanted a sugar relationship, I found her in pinalove.
How far in advance of your visit are you chatting with these girls?

You will have noticed that tourist trip arrangements can be made with just 0-2 days notice. These girls do not have busy lives. The ones that will meet will respond quickly. The girls that were only ever after cash / cam shows will quickly be cleared as they cannot meet 'today'. Province girls will quickly be identified as needing transport money. The compressed timeframes put the girls mind to solving the immediate logistic issues of meeting you (or excusing herself).

The longer you have to chat to girls the more likely you will be asked for pre-payments.

Goferring
09-19-22, 06:37
Rule us never send money before meeting. Exception is small amount like 500 to 800 for province girls to travel. If I lose it so be it.I've only prepaid transport once but that was for planes, trains and automobiles to get from San Carlos to Cebu City and the girl was a recommendation from a trusted monger.

For those that do send a couple of '00 for taxis etc, how many actually turn up vs just pocket the money and no show? Most that I see asking for prepayment have all the signs of scammers.

Cheers. G.

Engine Driver
09-19-22, 09:02
How far in advance of your visit are you chatting with these girls?

You will have noticed that tourist trip arrangements can be made with just 0-2 days notice. These girls do not have busy lives. The ones that will meet will respond quickly. The girls that were only ever after cash / cam shows will quickly be cleared as they cannot meet 'today'. Province girls will quickly be identified as needing transport money. The compressed timeframes put the girls mind to solving the immediate logistic issues of meeting you (or excusing herself).

The longer you have to chat to girls the more likely you will be asked for pre-payments.This advice is 100% correct. If your intention is to meet girls and to fuck them, then you should only be using dating apps the day before you leave. Alternatively, just use Tinder when you land and you will have many ready to fuck girls.

The vast majority of girls on dating apps are desperately poor and live in slums. They are poorer than you can imagine. They are on dating apps to get free money off gullible mongers. Most will chicken out of meeting you as they are not prepared for that and nor are they expecting Mr Monger to actually arrive. Most foreigners are also time wasters who will never actually travel anywhere and find it amusing to tell the girls how rich they are or how big their dicks are. It is all a game and both deserve each other. The pretty ones receive hundreds of messages a day from foreigners. Some will end up sending money for cam shows that never happen. Often the "girl" at the other end is actually a man who is running the scam. Just don't send dick pics unless you want to wife to find out.

Goferring
09-19-22, 21:18
They are on dating apps to get free money off gullible mongers. Most will chicken out of meeting you as they are not prepared for that and nor are they expecting Mr Monger to actually arrive. Most foreigners are also time wasters who will never actually travel anywhere True. Many girls are stunned to find the monger is actually in town now. Lots will back out but those who actually want to meet a white guy will be in jeepney ASAP.

That's why I don't even login until I'm sitting in my hotel. Anything before that is just mild titillation as we are extremely unlikely to actually meet.

Sammon
09-19-22, 21:49
True. Many girls are stunned to find the monger is actually in town now. Lots will back out but those who actually want to meet a white guy will be in jeepney ASAP.

That's why I don't even login until I'm sitting in my hotel. Anything before that is just mild titillation as we are extremely unlikely to actually meet.IMHO it is my experience depending on what's your requirements. For me I like to get GFE girls stay with me min of two days. Sex gets better with familiarity. So I start chatting at least a month before travel. This way by the time I am there I will get at least couple of girls who promise to stay with me. Also I settle the amount to be paid so that there is no misunderstanding. Most times I tend to pay more.

There are times for one reason or other girls have dropped out after I am there. In such cases I hit the dating sites again. Mostly it starts with ST but once we like each other they stay longer.

Most normal pretty girls want chatting on cam and get you know you before agreeing. Unless they have been with a foreigner money equation does not come into play. They want to meet outside first with no guarantee. Depending on how desperate I am I decide to meet and see. Yes, sometimes they come with a friend, cousin etc. Many a times I have benefited when both decide to come with me.

Generally if the girl wants to stay with me few days I register them and we check in together. In some cases they come to the airport.

So everything on the table depending on luck. Sometimes best laid plans go bare.

Goferring
09-19-22, 22:35
.... Mostly it starts with ST but once we like each other they stay longer......This is my main MO for new acquaintances too. Each to their own but I haven't found the days / weeks of ground work necessary. Good girls will just meet for a platonic coffee or Jollie date first and I have no issues with this. I tend to mix point and click with those that are less brutally commercial.

In all cases being in town increases the odds of actually meeting and then hooking up considerably.

Enjoy. G.

AsianPursuits
09-20-22, 00:04
This way by the time I am there I will get at least couple of girls who promise to stay with me. Also I settle the amount to be paid so that there is no misunderstanding. Most times I tend to pay more.
Would you consider leaving the money discussion out of the pre-arrival chat? I rarely ever mention money unless the girl is a hardened pro. Try it with a few girls and see how things progress. All filipina know the will get paid.

Sammon
09-20-22, 11:40
Would you consider leaving the money discussion out of the pre-arrival chat? I rarely ever mention money unless the girl is a hardened pro. Try it with a few girls and see how things progress. All filipina know the will get paid.Money issue is not discussed with all girls. If I feel they are romance minded and clingy I try to make it a business deal. Most Philippine girls know they will get money from foreigners but many from the provinces do not know how much. For them even 500 pesos is good money.

However I treat them very well.

Goferring
09-20-22, 22:04
Would you consider leaving the money discussion out of the pre-arrival chat?I'll answer the blatant "How much?" question, but otherwise often leave the payment as an unspoken agreement.

I've had several girls who a / insist only on true taxi fares of a couple of hundred pesos or be / refused payment at all. These girls are happy to go with a guy who is obviously playing the field but don't want to be roped into the paid hooker grouping. Including cash in the initial discussion sees them flee early.

Funnily enough, some of those that refused payment have been firmly in the top 5% performance wise and were great fun.

Goferring
09-20-22, 22:13
Money issue is not discussed with all girls..I should have also added that it also depends how you carry yourself. Girls are often concerned that a young tourist, new to town, will not understand that they are expecting payment so will have a convo early to manage expectations. An older guy, who has clearly played the game before, and maybe speaks some of the language, obviously already knows the situation, current prices etc so is less of a risk and the same conversation is not required.

An extension of this is referrals. If a "cousin" was a freebie / paid 3 k then she knows this and expects the same. No discussions required.

AsianPursuits
09-20-22, 22:41
I think we are of the same strategy here. From your initial post "Also I settle the amount to be paid so that there is no misunderstanding" I inferred "always settle the amount" whereas it seems we all use the "settle the amount if needed."

Engine Driver
09-21-22, 04:07
The trouble with mongers who are about to engage in a 2-week fuckathon is that they stop thinking with their brains. Some never had any to start with. Some mongers should have been drowned at birth.

There is no real need to spend hours on negotiating on Pina Love to get the fuck fee for an overnight stay down from 3000 to 2000 pesos. Just think about it. You've already spent thousands on your airfare getting to Manila and same again on accommodation, plus taking two weeks off from your job (if you have one). Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30? Shit, you spill more than that at Friday afternoon drinks. It's about the cost of a subway meal.

An online girl will be between 3,000 - 5000 peso in Manila. A bit less in smaller towns.

Some monger will come back and say that he got a chick for 300 peso in Tondo once and that I don't know what I'm talking about.

CreateNinnov8
09-22-22, 12:20
I agree 100%.

I was there for a fuckation few weeks ago and I always paid 6 K - 7.5 K.

Got all- 19-24 yrs old. And had awesome sessions.


The trouble with mongers who are about to engage in a 2-week fuckathon is that they stop thinking with their brains. Some never had any to start with. Some mongers should have been drowned at birth.

There is no real need to spend hours on negotiating on Pina Love to get the fuck fee for an overnight stay down from 3000 to 2000 pesos. Just think about it. You've already spent thousands on your airfare getting to Manila and same again on accommodation, plus taking two weeks off from your job (if you have one). Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30? Shit, you spill more than that at Friday afternoon drinks. It's about the cost of a subway meal.

An online girl will be between 3,000 - 5000 peso in Manila. A bit less in smaller towns.

Some monger will come back and say that he got a chick for 300 peso in Tondo once and that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Goferring
09-23-22, 10:06
I agree 100%.

I was there for a fuckation few weeks ago and I always paid 6 K - 7.5 K.

Got all- 19-24 yrs old. And had awesome sessions.I doubt it's one side is right and the other is wrong. It depends on who has the sense of urgency. If someone has paid what equates to hundreds of dollars per day in airfares and wants a pretty girl before leaving in a few days, then he's happy to pay up to get what he wants. If a girl is broke and needs the rent today then she will call up a known customer for however much will get the bills paid. She'll probably give a good session too so that he's happy to say yes again when called on in her hour of need.

On some occasions both situations may be the same girl. 😊.

As long as both the baller and Cheap Charlie are happy in the end, who cares?

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
09-23-22, 13:33
There is no real need to spend hours on negotiating on Pina Love to get the fuck fee for an overnight stay down from 3000 to 2000 pesos. Just think about it. You've already spent thousands on your airfare getting to Manila and same again on accommodation, plus taking two weeks off from your job (if you have one). Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30?Yes I am going to say no. I have never met a chick that I need. I am not desperate for pussy that I can not pass and get a different chick. It is the same as you mentioned buying a ticket. By your logic, if you know tickets are usually $10, but you see they are $15 at the moment, you should just go ahead and buy it and not wait until the price drops back down. If you know that you can get it for less, why pay more only on the basis that you have spent money on other things? So because I spent a lot of money on a house, I should not negotiate the price of the furniture that is going to go inside?

Goferring
09-23-22, 19:53
Yes I am going to say no. I have never met a chick that I need. I am not desperate for pussy that I can not pass and get a different chick. It is the same as you mentioned buying a ticket. By your logic, if you know tickets are usually $10, but you see they are $15 at the moment, you should just go ahead and buy it and not wait until the price drops back down. If you know that you can get it for less, why pay more only on the basis that you have spent money on other things? So because I spent a lot of money on a house, I should not negotiate the price of the furniture that is going to go inside?I'm getting lost in all the metaphors Are we arguing Discrete Pricing Theory over hookers??

My situation is simple: if a girl quotes a price I'm happy with, then we're off. If another guy accepts a different price and has a good time too, then more power to them.

Enjoy. G.

Pute Nut
09-23-22, 20:34
Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30?Why not, and what has airline ticket cost to do with pussy pricing? Quality of fucking is often inversely related to price anyways.

Mr Enternational
09-23-22, 21:03
I'm getting lost in all the metaphors Are we arguing Discrete Pricing Theory over hookers??LOL. Me too! I was basically trying to say the same that PN did. Buying one thing has nothing to do with buying something else.

PedroMorales
09-23-22, 21:04
1. Hold the line. Otherwise you are touristing everything from jeepneys upwards.

2. Coca Cola challenge. This evil American company boasts its product is the same everywhere. LBFMs are just that, hairy brown holes to borrow away at at a price worth doing it. No different than a game of darts or five in a row. But different from a heroin addict in the USA.

3. Hire a plumber. I got a small roof job priced. Two guys,. Half a day, the price of an hour with a star fish here. Which is better value, a starfish or a plumber?

WestCoast1
09-23-22, 22:05
The trouble with mongers who are about to engage in a 2-week fuckathon is that they stop thinking with their brains. Some never had any to start with. Some mongers should have been drowned at birth.There is great truth to the first part of this. The 2-week warrior is engaging in a 2-tier pricing system. He is voluntarily paying more. The point-and-shoot system of Burgos (both bars and SW), AC, the old EDSA complex, and LAC (among others) is that the customer is paying more, for convenience. High-Priced-Convenience (HPC, I just made that up). Every girl in the bar or street, or in LAC understands this. The price she's looking to get (say, at LAC, of 2000 for ST) will involve a negotiation probably. However its not the price she's willing to go for. She knows that if you are in LAC, you have most likely come for a vacation, and you are not in the mood to dicker (much). She knows that she's dealing with ED's idiot. When she says "Where you from?" and you answer: I live here. That's a signal to her: it might be time for her to find another customer.

The lower-priced system (LPS) often belongs to the guys who live in town (or at least are here for a period of months). These gents can (and often do) simply pass on the HPC experience, getting a phone contact list full of girls who are willing to perform at the lower price (see Goferring's words below), in exchange for continued and repeated business.

Should have been drowned at birth. That probably includes me.


Some monger will come back and say that he got a chick for 300 peso in Tondo once and that I don't know what I'm talking about.Its true, it probably happens to both LPS (more often) and HPC guys (less often). Again, see Goferring's words below. P10 k / session models do, on occasion, offer themselves up for 1/5 of their normal price to pay the electric bill. Do they offer that to some newb she's never met? No, she contacts one of her long-time regular gents in town and goes for whatever he offers (or is willing to settle for) this day.


I doubt it's one side is right and the other is wrong. It depends on who has the sense of urgency. SNIP If a girl is broke and needs the rent today then she will call up a known customer for however much will get the bills paid. She'll probably give a good session too so that he's happy to say yes again when called on in her hour of need.

On some occasions both situations may be the same girl. 😊.Have had this (rare) experience more than once, with more than one model or influencer. Have heard same from other gents. And to be honest, the girls themselves aren't always very smart. The electric gets cut in her home, and she suddenly needs p1735 to pay the bill TODAY. She suggests to one of her regulars (who gives p10 k normally) that she visit with him today. He balks for any number of reasons (not horny, short on cash, blah blah). She probably should offer to cut her take to p5 k today, but instead blurts out in txt: "We have no electric. Cut. Need p1735 to pay it". He's going to get her for p2000 today. If she'd suggested the cut to 5 k without mentioning the emergency, she might have gotten it.


Yes I am going to say no. I have never met a chick that I need. I am not desperate for pussy that I can not pass and get a different chick. It is the same as you mentioned buying a ticket. By your logic, if you know tickets are usually $10, but you see they are $15 at the moment, you should just go ahead and buy it and not wait until the price drops back down. If you know that you can get it for less, why pay more only on the basis that you have spent money on other things? So because I spent a lot of money on a house, I should not negotiate the price of the furniture that is going to go inside?When I was a 2-3 week warrior, I felt the need to squeeze in as many as possible. I was (when younger) ED's brainless idiot. I should have negotiated better the price of the furniture, but I was not willing to let this or that hottie go, requiring more of my time to find another. Time was more important than money (for at least the first few years). I needed the girl more than the money.


Why not, and what has airline ticket cost to do with pussy pricing? For the 2-week warrior, it has much to do with pricing. He is not willing / wanting to dicker. Its difficult for him to walk away, when she is right in front of him in a bar, or on vid call and just a mile away. The largesse of his trip for many warriors is on his mind, forcing a need for results. Guys who live in town don't worry about this. If her price is too high today, he will just look thru his contact list and find another, and another, and another. If he doesn't get laid today, he will another day. He also knows that she will have an emergency in the next few weeks and she will be more open to dickering down then.


Quality of fucking is often inversely related to price anyways.And then there is that.

Goferring
09-23-22, 22:48
Quality of fucking is often inversely related to price anyways.Gump, you're a God damn genius.

Goferring
09-23-22, 22:54
There is great truth to the first part of this. The 2-week warrior is engaging in a 2-tier pricing system. He is voluntarily paying more. The point-and-shoot system of Burgos (both bars and SW), AC, the old EDSA complex, and LAC (among others) is that the customer is paying more, for convenience...You left out that he is also paying for quality. Some of that maybe that the average Burgos Gogo girl is prettier than the average street walker but that's not the only criteria. Mr Per Diem is also willing to pay for English speaking, unlikely to do a runner, unlikely to get robbed or that the whole street is simply more foreigner friendly. He sure as shit ain't roaming the streets of Tondo at 3 am to save $20.

Goferring
09-23-22, 23:09
The lower-priced system (LPS) often belongs to the guys who live in town (or at least are here for a period of months). These gents can (and often do) simply pass on the HPC experience, getting a phone contact list full of girls who are willing to perform at the lower price (see Goferring's words below), in exchange for continued and repeated business.

The warrior will also be confined to choosing from areas where tourist or foreigner prices reign. He will likely only see the airport, office, Burgos and maybe a high end mall.

A resident will frequent far more supermarkets, regular malls, banks, public transport etc and naturally bump into girls who will be happy to meet for the price of a coffee.

Don't even get me started on the doors opened by learning a few words of the local language.

Strangely, many of these civilian girls can be far prettier than those in bars or streets, just minus the on point make up and sexy dresses.

Ever unwrapped jeans and a T-shirt to find a bikini model hiding underneath? Got to love surprises. 🎉.

Pute Nut
09-24-22, 00:26
For the 2-week warrior, it has much to do with pricing. He is not willing / wanting to dicker. Its difficult for him to walk away, when she is right in front of him in a bar, or on vid call and just a mile away. The largesse of his trip for many warriors is on his mind, forcing a need for results.Totally get that, and encourage it. Big spenders attract new talent to the pool. I can see the sunk cost / effiency fallacy / argument and if you are on a very short trip pulling the trigger quickly paying 17 bucks more will probably lower the total CPF by virtue of more total trip fucks. But my beef is that there's no f-ing norm that you should be galante and just pay whatever some exchangable chick asks.

It's not much different from buying a used car. Know when to walk away.

WestCoast1
09-24-22, 01:18
I can see the sunk cost / effiency fallacy / argument and if you are on a very short trip pulling the trigger quickly paying 17 bucks more will probably lower the total CPF by virtue of more total trip fucks. But my beef is that there's no f-ing norm that you should be galante and just pay whatever some exchangable chick asks.

It's not much different from buying a used car. Know when to walk away.Great points. When I first came here, I was somewhat experienced in other countries. But the prices were so cheap here, and the girls stayed so long (not charging by the minute, or 30- or 60-minute blocks), that I became the 'Efficiency Expert' and fell into the fallacy. For a while. Then later I found other ways to find a girl's lower acceptable price, and moved away from the 'efficiency' view (getting laid regular is more important than getting laid a lot, or having only hottie -- my old age speaking). Girls in the biz (most all of them, from GRO to FL / SW / LAC to Tinder pros) understand the 2-week warrior's fever.

Mr Enternational
09-24-22, 02:50
High-Priced-Convenience (HPC, I just made that up). Every girl in the bar or street, or in LAC understands this. The price she's looking to get (say, at LAC, of 2000 for ST) will involve a negotiation probably..I always tell them I come here all the time and I do not know when I am leaving.

Engine Driver
09-24-22, 04:23
Great points. When I first came here, I was somewhat experienced in other countries. But the prices were so cheap here, and the girls stayed so long (not charging by the minute, or 30- or 60-minute blocks), that I became the 'Efficiency Expert' and fell into the fallacy. For a while. Then later I found other ways to find a girl's lower acceptable price, and moved away from the 'efficiency' view (getting laid regular is more important than getting laid a lot, or having only hottie -- my old age speaking). Girls in the biz (most all of them, from GRO to FL / SW / LAC to Tinder pros) understand the 2-week warrior's fever.Where I come from, a nice looking girl is $2500++ for an all nighter. So when I get to Manila, what's the point in worrying if the fee is $200 or $217?

WestCoast1
09-29-22, 08:45
A friend may have received a 8 k session and passed that info on, excluding that it was just a one off so that she looks like she is making a fortune.Last month one of my girls had a swollen outer ankle and a limp. A turned ankle, or possible sprain. I suggested an x-ray and doctor's palpitation. "No I am going in the shaman today. He will rub the oil on it and prayer". So, you are saying NO to the x-ray and doctor that I am willing to pay for? "My neighbor says the shaman will pray on it". OK, but I'm willing to go with you to the doctor now. Don't ask me for money later for an x-ray or doctor. "I will shaman". Because of your genius neighbor. Check.

The following day about 10:30 am the guard calls my room: "Sir your guest is here in the lobby". Unannounced guest? Not expecting anyone until 1 pm, one of my other regulars. On the way down in the elevator I have no msgs on my phone. Once in the lobby I see "Limpy". She is sitting and can barely stand up. "The shaman put the oil and prayer. He says it will better today. But its more hurt". I see. "Can we doctor now?" Now? No, I have a girl coming soon. I gave her money for a few days of mefamanic analgesic and helped her hobble out to the jeep.

Two days later she txt to announce she would miss our ST, unable to walk. The following day she wanted to go to the doctor again. One week later she was back, a mild limp, and the swelling was down a bit. I was able to replace her missed times with other regulars. She had to live without her prizes from me. What do we foreigners know, compared to her neighbor. Right?

Mr Enternational
09-29-22, 12:37
Where I come from, a nice looking girl is $2500++ for an all nighter. So when I get to Manila, what's the point in worrying if the fee is $200 or $217?Because where you come from has shit to do with somewhere else. If you came from Thailand where I have been paying $30 for an all nighter for the last 17 years, would there be a point in worrying if the fee is $200 or $217? Because what you said is only said by people coming from somewhere that it costs more. But what shall be the mentality of someone coming from a place where something costs less?

I am in Dominican Republic now. Before I came I booked a rental car for $219 for 3 days. I got to the counter and the mfs told me it would be $345. Should I have just paid the $345 because at home it would be $500, or was I right in cursing the mfs out and demanding the price I reserved for and showed them in black and white?

AsianPursuits
09-29-22, 15:22
What do we foreigners know, compared to her neighbor. Right?Certainly I have also seen this with ailments. There is a disrespect for health advice from foreigners.

I find that this doesn't just cover medical issues. Finance also. "darling, that get rich scheme that everyone in barangay is investing, it is a scam." A month later after having lost their money everyone is upset.

Maybe it's because we are associated with so many unreliable foreigners also.

Expat American
09-29-22, 17:35
Because where you come from has shit to do with somewhere else. If you came from Thailand where I have been paying $30 for an all nighter for the last 17 years, would there be a point in worrying if the fee is $200 or $217? Because what you said is only said by people coming from somewhere that it costs more. But what shall be the mentality of someone coming from a place where something costs less?

I am in Dominican Republic now. Before I came I booked a rental car for $219 for 3 days. I got to the counter and the mfs told me it would be $345. Should I have just paid the $345 because at home it would be $500, or was I right in cursing the mfs out and demanding the price I reserved for and showed them in black and white?Well it depends how you look at it. Do you want to pass up a girl you want for the 17 $ difference? Some say yes, another will take the lower price. Others want what they want when they want it. Both approaches are ok. For me, the price of a fuck is never worth more than $200 even in my home base. As I type this I have a cute LBFM sleeping next to me. I paid 4 K barfine (70 USD) but she's been with me since 2 pm and won't leave until tomorrow morning. This is in AC. I would rather hunt the gems in AC then pay 3 X the price in Burgos. But if you want guaranteed point and click at a hot girl Burgos is for you. To each his own.

Engine Driver
10-02-22, 06:59
Because where you come from has shit to do with somewhere else. If you came from Thailand where I have been paying $30 for an all nighter for the last 17 years, would there be a point in worrying if the fee is $200 or $217? Because what you said is only said by people coming from somewhere that it costs more. But what shall be the mentality of someone coming from a place where something costs less?

I am in Dominican Republic now. Before I came I booked a rental car for $219 for 3 days. I got to the counter and the mfs told me it would be $345. Should I have just paid the $345 because at home it would be $500, or was I right in cursing the mfs out and demanding the price I reserved for and showed them in black and white?We all know you travel the world living in $2 flea pits and fucking $5 crack hoes in unlit alley ways. For you, head count is the measure, along with your inconsequential 13,000 reports. I often wonder how you managed to be in Rio on Monday, Pattaya on Tuesday, Lisbon on Wednesday, Angeles City on Thursday and Puerto Rico on Friday. And this was during the pandemic! Some of us have proper jobs, with a proper income and have limited vacation time. We actually want to stay in places where this a bed and a mattress. And we require our hookers to at latest bathe once a day. So the $17 difference in the asking price for an all nighter is not going to make any difference.

Sammon
10-03-22, 00:03
I have been using DIA exclusively for about 15 years. Locked out couple of times but managed to get back in.

I have had my share of scammers, demanding money before meeting, ladyboys pretending to be real girls, lying about age, photoshopped pictures on DIA but real ugly when chatting etc.

But overall I have had good success. I have made lots of connections and still see some old acquaintances sometimes. I start about two months before I go and start chatting. I come straight to the point about staying with me and having fun. Many drop out, some want to chat with me on WhatsApp and messenger. I never send any money. Block them if they start asking for money. I have sent airline tickets to fly them into Manila and cebu if I really like the girl. All have shown up. Except one girl who tried to cash the ticket with no luck. Airline sent a message and I got my money back.

My success is due to weeding out bad characters. There are many who really like to be with a foreigner although lately more and more are looking for serious relationship. I never promise anything but fun only for cash. Over the years I have met real pretty girls and I have posted pictures. Had taken many girls on trips. Once I meet them and have a good time I am quite generous. Makes them friends for a long time. Over the years I had many girlfriends in Philippines and also in Thailand, China, Cambodia, Vietnam. I used to do business in China and always travel to many south east countries.

Trick is to chat with many on cam and talk. If they like you they want to stay with you. If they do not on yo next one. In fact I have not taken any bargirls for the last 10 years. I am a two week warrior and consequently looking for only max 5 girls to stay with. So finding is not a problem compared to people who go for a month. Many of my girls introduce other girls sometimes for a threesome. All dating girls are clean and pleasant compared to bargirls.

So far I have not had any problems.

Mr Enternational
10-03-22, 02:32
We all know you travel the world living in $2 flea pits and fucking $5 crack hoes in unlit alley ways. For you, head count is the measure, along with your inconsequential 13,000 reports.I totally get it man. Better to just stay home wasting chicks' time on the apps like you seem to have down pat. Because why not have 2000 reports about chicks that you have not met.

D Cups
10-03-22, 10:44
We all know you travel the world living in $2 flea pits and fucking $5 crack hoes in unlit alley ways. For you, head count is the measure, along with your inconsequential 13,000 reports. I often wonder how you managed to be in Rio on Monday, Pattaya on Tuesday, Lisbon on Wednesday, Angeles City on Thursday and Puerto Rico on Friday. And this was during the pandemic! Some of us have proper jobs, with a proper income and have limited vacation time. We actually want to stay in places where this a bed and a mattress. And we require our hookers to at latest bathe once a day. So the $17 difference in the asking price for an all nighter is not going to make any difference.Once again trainwreck is derailed. Fat, lazy and stupid is no way to go through life, sonny. Conversely it is good to see Sammon's strategy and success. Regards from Valencia where I am living with a 22 year old amorous, busty beauty. She studies to be a P. E. Teacher while I train her oral skills. But I still monger AC, Subic, Manila, Cebu. Why not?

Engine Driver
10-04-22, 08:02
Once again trainwreck is derailed. Fat, lazy and stupid is no way to go through life, sonny. Conversely it is good to see Sammon's strategy and success. Regards from Valencia where I am living with a 22 year old amorous, busty beauty. She studies to be a P. E. Teacher while I train her oral skills. But I still monger AC, Subic, Manila, Cebu. Why not?Nice to hear from you buddy. I'm glad your retirement plans are working out.

Yep, I sure am fat. The last time I weighed myself I was 340 lbs, just before the scales broke. LOL. I weight so much that my knees have given in and so I get around in a mobility scooter. Yep, I'm lazy too. Even though so many hot IG chicks are chasing my 1-inch dick, I prefer to stay in my moms basement watching reruns of Trike Patrol! Can't risk traveling in case I get Covid. LOL. Besides, they don't have Tim Tams in the Philippines, so what would I eat?

I tried out for an audition for a role in a small dick humiliation, cuckold movie. I was going to star with a hot Asian babe and a black guy with a 10" cock. But I never got the part as they couldn't find my 1-inch dick in all the layers of belly fat. That was hilarious LOL.

Stay safe old pal. You never know. If they can get Covid under control and a sari sari shop can import Tim Tams, you might see me zipping around Walking Street in my motorized wheel chair. Peace bro.

Sammon
10-05-22, 00:24
Once again trainwreck is derailed. Fat, lazy and stupid is no way to go through life, sonny. Conversely it is good to see Sammon's strategy and success. Regards from Valencia where I am living with a 22 year old amorous, busty beauty. She studies to be a P. E. Teacher while I train her oral skills. But I still monger AC, Subic, Manila, Cebu. Why not?Good to see you are enjoying your retirement and that too with a busty girl you like. Right now I am in cebu staying at waterfront lahug. Two girls really worked me up in Manila. I was so tired and had to cancel a Lapu Lapu girl who was supposed to meet me at airport. Needed a break. Pic of the girl she sent me attached. If I have time I will meet her. Having a girl meeting me today.

D Cups
10-05-22, 22:01
Nice to hear from you buddy. I'm glad your retirement plans are working out.

Yep, I sure am fat. The last time I weighed myself I was 340 lbs, just before the scales broke. LOL. I weight so much that my knees have given in and so I get around in a mobility scooter. Yep, I'm lazy too. Even though so many hot IG chicks are chasing my 1-inch dick, I prefer to stay in my moms basement watching reruns of Trike Patrol! Can't risk traveling in case I get Covid. LOL. Besides, they don't have Tim Tams in the Philippines, so what would I eat?

I tried out for an audition for a role in a small dick humiliation, cuckold movie. I was going to star with a hot Asian babe and a black guy with a 10" cock. But I never got the part as they couldn't find my 1-inch dick in all the layers of belly fat. That was hilarious LOL.

Stay safe old pal. You never know. If they can get Covid under control and a sari sari shop can import Tim Tams, you might see me zipping around Walking Street in my motorized wheel chair. Peace bro.Too funny, Mr. ED. Cheers.

Engine Driver
10-07-22, 03:26
It's impossible to chat to a Filipina on a dating site for more than one day before she / he hits you up for money. Filipinas receive hundreds of messages from old horny mongers. Even if the wily lady can only get 4,000 peso a day for food and formula for her baby from one monger, she has earned 10 times what she could waiting on tables. Please don't send them any money. None are worthy. The only objective is for you to get telephone numbers of prospective conquests before you arrive at NAIA. Then you meet them and then you fuck them. Give them 3,000 peso the next morning before getting rid of them. Have a look at this video and make sure you don't fall for it.

https://youtu.be/tPTGdSh3yvs

AsianPursuits
10-07-22, 22:44
What enginedriver says is true.

Dating sites are good for generating new leads but it's also amazing how many times we meet Filipinas in our day-to-day activates. On Friday I was just thinking about how many 'open' filipina connections I have ie filipinas in contact with me on a semi regular basis which I keep open in the event my travels take me to their place. I will collect these random interactions and just keep them trickling along. Eventually something changes in their life and good old reliable AP is there to fuck them albeit for money.

For an upcoming trip I have not yet started any DIA or dating site apps.

Home city.

50 yo, 45 kg fuck buddy. Just for fun when we are both free. Met her as a job applicant. She needed a lift to her job interview and fucked me on our way back.

33 yo aged care worker that has been in contact for a year but I can't get her to more than coffee chats.

32 yo child care worker that does paid dating ie three hours for $400, I pay hotel.

Not so Randoms.

28 yo slim island girl, Surigao. Keen to meet.

28 yo OFW hotel front desk that will be back in Manila when I'm there.

32 yo single mum OFW that will be in Manila when I'm there.

Randoms.

4 insta island girls.

The above list would reliably fill 60% of my time in PH but the thrill of the chase and variety will have me sifting through the dating sites.

Sammon
10-08-22, 03:20
It's impossible to chat to a Filipina on a dating site for more than one day before she / he hits you up for money. Filipinas receive hundreds of messages from old horny mongers. Even if the wily lady can only get 4,000 peso a day for food and formula for her baby from one monger, she has earned 10 times what she could waiting on tables. Please don't send them any money. None are worthy. The only objective is for you to get telephone numbers of prospective conquests before you arrive at NAIA. Then you meet them and then you fuck them. Give them 3,000 peso the next morning before getting rid of them. Have a look at this video and make sure you don't fall for it.

https://youtu.be/tPTGdSh3yvs


It's impossible to chat to a Filipina on a dating site for more than one day before she / he hits you up for money. Filipinas receive hundreds of messages from old horny mongers. Even if the wily lady can only get 4,000 peso a day for food and formula for her baby from one monger, she has earned 10 times what she could waiting on tables. Please don't send them any money. None are worthy. The only objective is for you to get telephone numbers of prospective conquests before you arrive at NAIA. Then you meet them and then you fuck them. Give them 3,000 peso the next morning before getting rid of them. Have a look at this video and make sure you don't fall for it.

https://youtu.be/tPTGdSh3yvsEight out of ten girls demand money giving various excuses.

1. No money for transportation. I say take a taxi and I will meet you on arrival and pay taxi. If you do not trust me you can have the taxi driver call me on your WhatsApp. A real interested girl will not ask you for money. She will use the cheapest transport to come to you.

2. Need to pay babysitter if she has a baby. Do not go for it. Usually they are already staying in a group setting.

3. Never ever believe birthdays. These girls will have up to 10 birthdays a year. Besides poor people rarely celebrate birthday throwing a lavish party.

4. Do not believe father sick, mother sick, grandmother died, Buffalo sick, Buffalo ate a snake etc. My reply is you managed to live before you met me and continue to live even if we do not meet. I will only give money after meeting and having sex.

5. There is no need for the girl to meet you at the airport and check in together. When you check in tell the reception that your friend will be joking you later and you will bring her I. The. Then conveniently forget to do that.

Bottom line is never send money. Yes, I have made a rookie mistake long time ago. Since the I have learned that whatever meant to be will be the same but not because money was not sent.

Pute Nut
10-08-22, 03:38
Bottom line is never send money. Yes, I have made a rookie mistake long time ago. Since the I have learned that whatever meant to be will be the same but not because money was not sent.Very good advice. Never send any money, period.

I once made an exception and was promptly scammed out of 200 pesos for a (regional) bus ticket in Cebu. I thought it was rather hilarious as she must have spent at least 10 hours online working the scam, working out to an hourly wage of 20 pesos. But fool me once.

Engine Driver
10-08-22, 06:11
Very good advice. Never send any money, period.

I once made an exception and was promptly scammed out of 200 pesos for a (regional) bus ticket in Cebu. I thought it was rather hilarious as she must have spent at least 10 hours online working the scam, working out to an hourly wage of 20 pesos. But fool me once.I've joined Pina Love on a 1-month subscription to get a new set of hooker phone contacts. Because of the Wuhan reaper I haven't traveled anywhere for nearly 3 years and am due for a mongering holiday. Good opportunity to clean up my old phone lists. I still have periodic contact with trusted hookers from the past but I ended up deleting over a 100 others. To expect a girl to have the same number for three years is too much.

Besides the usual cam shows where you will get blackmailed, a few new scams I've come across:

1. Need to go for a job interview now. Switches phone off for 6 hours then texts back that's she's got the job. Has 48 hours to produce negative Covid test and various pre-employment medicals. Cheapest clinic quote is 4800 peso. Can I help so she doesn't lose the job?

2. Graduation fee is due on Monday and it's 9000 peso! LOL. Dear, I wasn't born yesterday. Graduation fee from a third rate, provincial college is 300 peso for gown and mortar board hire, and tip to the college president.

3. Various kids birthday parties- just some small amount for kids please. You mean 5000 peso for a pig on the spit and a bottle of Tanduay rhum for the boyfriend?

Another scam that I would appreciate some advice with. On Pina Love there are a bunch of pretty girls "based" in my home country seeking relationships. I'the never seen this before and even if put Manila as the search area, they come up. My home country is part of Rich White Man Land. Just single pictures only of super hot Pinay and western girls. The photo has been verified. How does this scam work? Is it Bitcoin trading? Seems like the scammers can hack the app.

Too bad, Miss Porridge was a smoking hot, 45 kg spinner. Just because you don't send money now doesn't mean you can't meet them later. No need to block them.

Goferring
10-08-22, 23:58
Another scam that I would appreciate some advice with. On Pina Love there are a bunch of pretty girls "based" in my home country seeking relationships. I'the never seen this before and even if put Manila as the search area, they come up. My home country is part of Rich White Man Land. Just single pictures only of super hot Pinay and western girls. The photo has been verified. How does this scam work? Is it Bitcoin trading? Seems like the scammers can hack the app.

Too bad, Miss Porridge was a smoking hot, 45 kg spinner. Just because you don't send money now doesn't mean you can't meet them later. No need to block them.1/. It's just an extension of the bus fare con. Doesn't matter where you live in RWML, she won't be there but for $500 she will buy some flights and come suck you dry.

2/. Hopefully you sent the poor girl some more salt sachets to end her hunger.

3/. I never delete messages or contacts, even the psychos. Makes it so much easier to triage supposedly new contacts later. I've found many girls who have the same number but different photos, haircuts, locations etc.

Mr Enternational
10-09-22, 01:47
Another scam that I would appreciate some advice with. On Pina Love there are a bunch of pretty girls "based" in my home country seeking relationships. I'the never seen this before and even if put Manila as the search area, they come up.A lot of times it is the site itself posting these profiles. It is common on dating sites. You can search the internet for people that have previously worked at sites saying how it works.

Engine Driver
10-09-22, 04:23
A lot of times it is the site itself posting these profiles. It is common on dating sites. You can search the internet for people that have previously worked at sites saying how it works.Thanks Mr E. That makes perfect sense. Yes they are bots created by the algorithm depending on where you are. There is only ever one photo or no photo, but it is "verified" by Pina Love. There is never much profile information other than the name and fake location. The girls are also too pretty to be true and "out of my league". Why would a hottie be sitting in London UK without a date and using Pina Love? LOL. I read that this is common to pad out the numbers to look as if there are more girls. Dating apps are typcially 80/20 male-female.

I have noticed that since the last time I was on three years ago, the number of girls has halved. But of the ones listed, nearly all of them are scammers. The pandemic has driven the poorest girls back to the provinces where they can survive on 100 peso a day or can toil in the uncle's paddy fields in exchange for a free meal.

Sammon
10-11-22, 12:04
Very good advice. Never send any money, period.

I once made an exception and was promptly scammed out of 200 pesos for a (regional) bus ticket in Cebu. I thought it was rather hilarious as she must have spent at least 10 hours online working the scam, working out to an hourly wage of 20 pesos. But fool me once.Had a successful trip to Philippines. All my girls are from DIA.

Never sent any money for bus, taxi, jeepney or whatever. Ofcourse there were demands but conveniently deleted. But found some gems who never asked for any money before. Got to my hotel with no problem. I should say security is not all existent at high end hotels I stayed. Nobody checked anything. Maybe good or bad. But my girls never took anything even if I left thousand peso notes on the table.

Mr Enternational
10-11-22, 13:51
Yes they are bots created by the algorithm depending on where you are. There is only ever one photo or no photo, but it is "verified" by Pina Love. There is never much profile information other than the name and fake location. The girls are also too pretty to be true and "out of my league". The article I read said they would even answer your messages a couple of times to get you hyped and give you hope so that you would stay on the site.

Pute Nut
10-11-22, 16:34
Had a successful trip to Philippines. All my girls are from DIA.Good on you, Sammon. My impression is that the DIA girls in the years just before the pandemic were bit more hesistant to meet up than, say, ten years ago. Any improvement post-covid?

Were the girls happy with your compensation plan or did they request extras?

I'm currently in PH but have been using old contacts and pretty much my pre-covid payment scale, no complaints so far.

Sammon
10-11-22, 21:31
Good on you, Sammon. My impression is that the DIA girls in the years just before the pandemic were bit more hesistant to meet up than, say, ten years ago. Any improvement post-covid?

Were the girls happy with your compensation plan or did they request extras?

I'm currently in PH but have been using old contacts and pretty much my pre-covid payment scale, no complaints so far.In my plan of attack I did not see much of a difference in payment factor. Before I use to pay 1500-2000 per day. Now 2500-3000 per day. I tend to treat girls very well. So what if I overpaid little. I did not take any gifts. They need money more than gifts. The girls I got all had decent jobs. Some work in call centers. So although they need money, they were not mercenary. None had any children and were between 19-23. After I came back here the girls I was with sent pictures of their friends who want to hook up with me. I guess they think I am an angel. I think I am a devil projecting myself as an angel LOL.

AsianPursuits
10-11-22, 22:01
I guess they think I am an angel. I think I am a devil projecting myself as an angel LOL.If they thought you were an angel they would be keeping you for themselves. Maybe the fact that they are prepared to let you play with others they see limited opportunity with you. You are safe to pass on to others.

We all love these girls.

WestCoast1
10-12-22, 02:29
None had any children and were between 19-23. After I came back here the girls I was with sent pictures of their friends who want to hook up with me. Don't worry about over / underpaying when you are in town for a few weeks. Nut after nut with 19-23 yo. And new girls to hook up with. Poor Sammon!

Goferring
10-12-22, 04:34
...After I came back here the girls I was with sent pictures of their friends who want to hook up with me. I guess they think I am an angel. I think I am a devil projecting myself as an angel LOL.


If they thought you were an angel they would be keeping you for themselves. Maybe the fact that they are prepared to let you play with others they see limited opportunity with you. You are safe to pass on to others.

We all love these girls.This is the huge benefit to being straight with the girls.

"I'm single and am here to fall in love and marry a nice girl" and she is never going to let her eyes off you.

"I'm a butterfly but I'm also fun and generous" and introductions to friends and family pose no threat at all.

Enjoy. G.

Pute Nut
10-12-22, 04:46
In my plan of attack I did not see much of a difference in payment factor. Before I use to pay 1500-2000 per day. Now 2500-3000 per day. I tend to treat girls very well. So what if I overpaid little. I did not take any gifts. They need money more than gifts. The girls I got all had decent jobs. Some work in call centers. So although they need money, they were not mercenary. None had any children and were between 19-23. Looks like you did very well in both terms of CPC (cost per creampie) and overall value.

AsianPursuits
11-06-22, 10:45
In preparation for my upcoming trip I've been curating a new FB profile. I've mad a few posts in the local provincial buy / sell and community FB groups. On a casual basis each day there will be 2-3 friend requests from girls.

From previous trips I've had pit fall so having FB friends that are too diverse or who have friends in far off lands. I don't add any girl that is.

Living in middle east and just wants chat buddies.

Not within 60 minutes travel of my destinations.

2 kids.

35 years.

Not having a flexible job.

I am probably being harsh with these but realistically I don't want to spend time viewing some girl that I will get motivated to meet then find she is in Tabaco, a place I'm not visiting.

I'll also be hoping to take a girl along for some island hoping for a few days, so having flexibility is important.

I'm harsh on the kids number as I think a mother's motivation to leave her kids at her provincial house is not what I can deal with on a holiday. Yes I know they are nice, I Know they will make arrangements but there will be some constant chat about sending money home and needing to call regularly.

I don't actually chat many of these girls yet. I did send a test message to a girl that works in a Sari Sari store in Pasay. 26 years old, no kids, no husband (apparently). 5 minutes of chat and she's happy to close the shop and meet me at NAIA on arrival. I plan to just message a handful at each place and not be juggling all of the contacts at any one time.

I will close this FB profile on my way to NAIA when I'm leaving.

Radical Guy
11-07-22, 14:23
In preparation for my upcoming trip I've been curating a new FB profile. I've mad a few posts in the local provincial buy / sell and community FB groups. On a casual basis each day there will be 2-3 friend requests from girls.

From previous trips I've had pit fall so having FB friends that are too diverse or who have friends in far off lands. I don't add any girl that is.

Living in middle east and just wants chat buddies.

Not within 60 minutes travel of my destinations.

2 kids.

35 years.

Not having a flexible job.

I am probably being harsh with these but realistically I don't want to spend time viewing some girl that I will get motivated to meet then find she is in Tabaco, a place I'm not visiting.

I'll also be hoping to take a girl along for some island hoping for a few days, so having flexibility is important.

I'm harsh on the kids number as I think a mother's motivation to leave her kids at her provincial house is not what I can deal with on a holiday. Yes I know they are nice, I Know they will make arrangements but there will be some constant chat about sending money home and needing to call regularly.

I don't actually chat many of these girls yet. I did send a test message to a girl that works in a Sari Sari store in Pasay. 26 years old, no kids, no husband (apparently). 5 minutes of chat and she's happy to close the shop and meet me at NAIA on arrival. I plan to just message a handful at each place and not be juggling all of the contacts at any one time.

I will close this FB profile on my way to NAIA when I'm leaving.I'm even more picky. I don't want any girl with kids. And I specifically want a girl with a natural, unshaved pussy. I've gotten pretty good at determining a girl's "shaving status" without sounding offensive. LOL.

BroComplex
11-18-22, 09:18
Not all the girls are scammers, some of them really need the money. When a girl says she doesn't have the money to come see me I offer to send her a grab with %100 success rate. That way I can even track how far she is.

Mr Enternational
11-18-22, 13:53
Not all the girls are scammers, some of them really need the money.Huh? Who doesn't need money?

Engine Driver
11-19-22, 21:48
Not all the girls are scammers, some of them really need the money. When a girl says she doesn't have the money to come see me I offer to send her a grab with %100 success rate. That way I can even track how far she is.If they are on dating apps just to get free money off gullible foreigners (instead of seeking true love), then they are scammers. I've had a lot of experience with Pina Love over the years, and nine out of 10 girls are there to get money.

Mr Enternational
11-20-22, 01:44
If they are on dating apps just to get free money off gullible foreigners (instead of seeking true love), then they are scammers. I've had a lot of experience with Pina Love over the years, and nine out of 10 girls are there to get money.I think I am beginning to learn a lesson. Met a chick on Thai Friendly that said she would drive 3 hours to see me if I would give her money for gas. Another chick told me the same thing before. With my thinking I would give them money when they were here in my presence. With their thinking I would send the money before they came. Their thinking is not my way of doing things.

Chocha Monger
11-20-22, 05:50
If they are on dating apps just to get free money off gullible foreigners (instead of seeking true love), then they are scammers. I've had a lot of experience with Pina Love over the years, and nine out of 10 girls are there to get money.The Pinays were raised by wolves. The foreigners were raised by sheep. When the two meet in the meadow, nature takes its course.

WestCoast1
11-20-22, 14:55
If they are on dating apps just to get free money off gullible foreigners (instead of seeking true love), then they are scammers. I've had a lot of experience with Pina Love over the years, and nine out of 10 girls are there to get money.Its a violation of all dating site Terms Of Service for anyone on the site to ask another person on the site for money, at least while communicating thru the website. Reporting the instance with a copy / paste will result in the offender being banned. Once conversation is moved from the dating site to another chat app, anyone who lies in order to get money (or any other thing of value) is committing fraud.

Its difficult to find pinay who don't ask for money, from sites like DIA. Roughly 3 in 10 ask for money by the second chat. At least let me take you to dinner or a movie before you scam me.

Not to be outdone in the disgust department, a lot of men want to show their schwanz-tooga or ask to see her t*ts by several chats in.

Goferring
11-20-22, 21:56
Its a violation of all dating site Terms Of Service for anyone on the site to ask another person on the site for money, at least while communicating thru the website..I wonder if that's why so many ask for load? Maybe that escapes the text search bots and they can get away with that better than asking for cash.

I never did find out, can load be cashed out or refunded? I'm assuming it can.

Chocha Monger
11-20-22, 22:27
Its a violation of all dating site Terms Of Service for anyone on the site to ask another person on the site for money, at least while communicating thru the website. Reporting the instance with a copy / paste will result in the offender being banned. Once conversation is moved from the dating site to another chat app, anyone who lies in order to get money (or any other thing of value) is committing fraud.

Its difficult to find pinay who don't ask for money, from sites like DIA. Roughly 3 in 10 ask for money by the second chat. At least let me take you to dinner or a movie before you scam me.

Not to be outdone in the disgust department, a lot of men want to show their schwanz-tooga or ask to see her t*ts by several chats in.In many cases, the Filipina and her entire family look on in astonished amusement as the geriatric monger brings his weather beaten mushroom to climax in a puff of dust. The recorded video may later be used to blackmail the monger or end up on dodgy Filipino porn sites with the title 'Malukot poriner jakul. '.

WestCoast1
11-21-22, 00:03
I wonder if that's why so many ask for load? Maybe that escapes the text search bots and they can get away with that better than asking for cash.Good question.


I never did find out, can load be cashed out or refunded? I'm assuming it can.A load can be xferred to another user on the same network (Globe to another Globe user, or Smart to Smart; its called 'passaload', or pass a load to me, and its found in dialing the *143# menu for Globe). Hence it can be transferred and sold from one Globe user to another.

I should tell you that most things sold to other pinoy (outside of immediate family) will be sold at a wild discount. A few examples:

1) You girl needs money and has no phone or GC. You offer to load her neighbor's (a third party) phone and have the neighbor sell the load by transferring the load to another Globe or Smart user (a fourth party). You load the neighbor's phone with p500. The neighbor (#1) transfers the 500 load to another neighbor (#2). #2 then hands #1 p300 cash, keeping 200 load for himself. Of the p300 cash in his hand, #1 then hands p200 to your girl, making 100 for himself. Your girl gets much less than you sent.

2) Your girl doesn't have a Gcash account. Her neighbor has a GC account. You send p500 (keeping the sample amount the same) from your GC to the neighbor's GC account for your girl. Your girl runs next door and asks the neighbor for pesos. The neighbor hands her p400 (or 300, or. . .). You never have any idea that she didn't get 500 pesos. Keep in mind that the neighbor must pay a 2% fee to cash-out your money, so that the most money possible for your girl to receive is p490. The most any of my girls have received from an outside party (neighbor) is 95%. Others got 50%.

3) Your girl doesn't have an ID to collect remittance. You remit p500 to her ID-bearing neighbor, who runs up the street to a nearby LBC and picks up p500 cash. The neighbor hands your girl p250, keeping half for herself.

Your girl contacts you asking p500 for cough syrup and antibiotic for her 2 yo daughter who has a cold. She has sent you a pic of the doctor's prescription. You send it thru one of the above methods to her cousin. The cousin keeps half the money. The girl buys only the cough medicine, which treats the symptom and not the cause. Two days later she is asking for money again, as the cough severity has returned when the syrup ran out. Nice chap that you are, you send to the cousin again, he keeps half again. This time she buys the antibiotic.

Your girl never mentions any of this to you. Even family members might keep an exorbitant fee of 20% - 50%. Knowing this, the girl might inflate (double) the amount she requests from you, to receive enough money to buy what she needs. She is literally at the mercy of the neighbor or fam member that you send money to.

Mr Enternational
11-21-22, 04:42
Your girl never mentions any of this to you. Even family members might keep an exorbitant fee of 20% - 50%. Knowing this, the girl might inflate (double) the amount she requests from you, to receive enough money to buy what she needs. She is literally at the mercy of the neighbor or fam member that you send money to.Why wouldn't she just get her own ID and Gcash account so she can keep all the money?

WestCoast1
11-21-22, 06:02
Why wouldn't she just get her own ID and Gcash account so she can keep all the money?There you go again. Thinking logically.

Many girls either have only a BC or Brgy ID, and not a valid ID. The ID system could / should get fixed one day when they roll out the National ID (supposedly next year). You can sign up for the National ID now (they just aren't available for delivery yet).

GC. I had assumed everyone in Phils had a GC account. But discovered months ago that some girls don't yet have one. Using GC means you must 'Verify' your account, by allowing the app to take your picture (a selfie), a picture of your valid ID (GC only accepts certain valid ID's), a selfie of you holding your valid ID next to your face, and possibly also a picture of your SIM card (your GC account can only be used with 1 phone number), and also possibly a selfie of you holding your SIM card next to your face. Usually the process goes smoothly, but you can't send money to anyone until you Verify.

Also if you Verify and then try sending money to another GC account that has not been verified, you get a warning msg from GC: "You are trying to send money to an Unverified GC account. Are you SURE you want to do that?

GC can be great, and also a PITA.

Goferring
11-21-22, 07:00
GC. I had assumed everyone in Phils had a GC account. But discovered months ago that some girls don't yet have one. Using GC means you must 'Verify' your account, by allowing the app to take your picture (a selfie), a picture of your valid ID (GC only accepts certain valid ID's), a selfie of you holding your valid ID next to your face, and possibly also a picture of your SIM card (your GC account can only be used with 1 phone number), and also possibly a selfie of you holding your SIM card next to your face. Usually the process goes smoothly, but you can't send money to anyone until you Verify.

Also if you Verify and then try sending money to another GC account that has not been verified, you get a warning msg from GC: "You are trying to send money to an Unverified GC account. Are you SURE you want to do that?

GC can be great, and also a PITA.




1) You girl needs money and has no phone or GC....

2) Your girl doesn't have a Gcash account...

3) Your girl doesn't have an ID

Your girl contacts you asking p500

Your girl never mentions any of this to you...Waaay to hard for my feeble mind to handle.

If my girl isn't there sucking my dick then she doesn't get paid. The finer points of how she organises that is her issue. If the planets don't align, then I move on to one of the other 50 odd million women in the PI.

Sounds cruel but I'm not paying my hard earned cash to get bogged down in other people's problems.

Enjoy. G.

Engine Driver
11-21-22, 07:08
Why wouldn't she just get her own ID and Gcash account so she can keep all the money?Because the types of Filipinas that mongers meet on dating apps are desperately poor, have minimal education, are usually unemployed and are not organized like western girls. Most do not have bank accounts, PayPal accounts or GCash accounts. I've met girls who have jobs, but only possess an employer ID and no official ID. I've met college girls with college ID, but no official ID. When asked, the answer is always "I will get it next month".

The requests for money only start after the Filipina has taken the monger to another chat platform. If a request for help is turned down, the Filipina will terminate the conversation. There is no need to delete or block the girl. If a monger actually lands at NAIA, he is free to contact the girl again and invite her for a root. All would have been forgotten, and if she needs urgent cash, the chances of meeting are good.

WestCoast1
11-21-22, 07:48
Waaay to hard for my feeble mind to handle.

If my girl isn't there sucking my dick then she doesn't get paid. The finer points of how she organises that is her issue. If the planets don't align, then I move on to one of the other 50 odd million women in the PI.

Sounds cruel but I'm not paying my hard earned cash to get bogged down in other people's problems.

Enjoy. G.For the 2-week warrior especially, GC and other remit-type services are rarely needed or wanted. The longer you live here, with multiple girls, GC is probably THE country standard app now for transferring money, pinoy to pinoy. Taxi drivers have started using it to receive fare. Just yesterday riding in a tryke with some lady, she tried to hand the driver a p500 note for a p20 fare. He balked. She didn't have anything smaller. Off the top of my head I asked her to ask him if he'd accept a GC payment. He agreed and that's how she paid. Almost all stores accept it now, as do many sari-sari's (they might add a convenience fee). GC can get you out of a jam if you only have large notes on you for a small item.

Who would bother going to Cebuana or LBC to remit money to family on another island, when they can send from their GC account directly to a family member elsewhere, instantly? GC is also great if you want to taxi a girl to you from wherever-the-eff-she-is, as Grab has a p79 fee for Manila. GC is also accepted by Lazada / Shopee, while many foreign debit and credit cards are not.

There are positives and negatives.