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FreebieFan
03-11-09, 01:16
So far, have scored with about 10 ladies from Friendster.
The challenge is that everyone can see who is your friends and who you have been looking at.
This is both good and bad.
They will then play the game on your comments page to out comment you. Showing all others that you are the real honey and all others are pretenders. Its a funny game to sit back and watch.
The ability to look at private pics is good. Just yesterday an OFW who I know in Taiwan let me see her private pics. Cute little titties.
The girls on FS have a thing called " shopping ". Nothing to do with malls. They look at their friends friends and then introduce themselves. Thats how a ferw have found me. Its a wonderful game. And not only restricted to Philippines.
FreebieFan
03-11-09, 01:21
Met a cute one in DIA the other day from some province or other.
We then switched to YM so we could see each other on cam. She was nice 19, young and tasty. I had no intention of actually doing it, but asked her if she wanted to come visit me in Manila.
She was an obvious virgin but gave the standard " I like you ".
Chatted a bit about sex and her lack of experience, so asked her again if she would meet me in Manila, Id pay for ticket etc.
She said hold on. Next thing I know there's her Dad on cam waving at me.
So funny. Poor guy, I don't think he knew how to type so it didn't get to a conversation. He was about 10 years younger than me too.
Anyways he told the daughter it was ok for her to go to Manila to see me. The power of me wearing a neck tie and looking clean cut LOL.
You don't explain why she's an "obvious virgin".
A while back I had a rather mind-dumbing debate (in the loosest sense of the word "debate") with a guy who basically suggested that meeting the family was unusually immoral because it suggested a marriage invitation.
Your interesting story seems to support my side, which is ..blah, blah, read FF's message...
X
Met a cute one in DIA the other day from some province or other.
We then switched to YM so we could see each other on cam. She was nice 19, young and tasty. I had no intention of actually doing it, but asked her if she wanted to come visit me in Manila.
She was an obvious virgin but gave the standard " I like you ".
Chatted a bit about sex and her lack of experience, so asked her again if she would meet me in Manila, Id pay for ticket etc.
She said hold on. Next thing I know there's her Dad on cam waving at me.
So funny. Poor guy, I don't think he knew how to type so it didn't get to a conversation. He was about 10 years younger than me too.
Anyways he told the daughter it was ok for her to go to Manila to see me. The power of me wearing a neck tie and looking clean cut LOL.
Met a cute one in DIA the other day from some province or other.
We then switched to YM so we could see each other on cam. She was nice 19, young and tasty. I had no intention of actually doing it, but asked her if she wanted to come visit me in Manila.
She was an obvious virgin but gave the standard " I like you ".
Chatted a bit about sex and her lack of experience, so asked her again if she would meet me in Manila, Id pay for ticket etc.
She said hold on. Next thing I know there's her Dad on cam waving at me.
So funny. Poor guy, I don't think he knew how to type so it didn't get to a conversation. He was about 10 years younger than me too.
Anyways he told the daughter it was ok for her to go to Manila to see me. The power of me wearing a neck tie and looking clean cut LOL.
Be aware that in many instances, as far as the family is concerned the girl is a virgin. It is the social thing in PHI. Even if the girl has lost her cherry she will not tell her family or others. Marriage prospects are better for her if she is a " Techical Virgin ".
Another thing is that girl lives with her parents. She will have to ask for permission to go anywhere. Next thing she is going to tell you is she wants to bring her friend along because she is scared. If you agree and send money for tickets 95% of the time they will not show up. Even if you send the tickets instead of money she can ask for refund from the airlines.
If you really like the girl best thing is to travel to her place to meet her. It is highly unlikely you will be able to screw her but you never know. All PHI girls profess " I love you very much " without even meeting you. The reason is like any girl all over the world who wants a saviour to make their life better and all want a loving husband and children. In Phi age does not seem to be a factor with poor people.
In Phi age does not seem to be a factor with poor people.
That's the key statement in your whole post. We search for pussy in the third world then complain about their searching for money. I have made complaints about this in the past but now in retrospect I think I and all the guys here whining about rogue chat mates in PI need their head examined.
As for the Virgin shit....still never met one that was of legal age and Filipina.
Cuba Tourist
03-12-09, 02:36
Here is a good one. She says she is married and lives in Makati. Here is her header---
They ignore me in public..but fantasize me in private lol
Her self-description---
im a **** coz ill wear short and a tanktop,im a bicth coz i dont let u push me around,im a liar coz i wont tell u evrything,im stupid coz sometimes imwrong,im controlling coz i get mad sometimes. im rude coz my manners aren't perpect.
She is looking for--
I want to meet a Male
with age from 18 to 80
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
i want to meet the one willing to love me for who i am or what ever i am..and give to me everything i want. God bless u all.
FreebieFan
03-12-09, 03:04
Be aware that in many instances, as far as the family is concerned the girl is a virgin. It is the social thing in PHI. Even if the girl has lost her cherry she will not tell her family or others. Marriage prospects are better for her if she is a " Techical Virgin ".
If you agree and send money for tickets 95% of the time they will not show up. Even if you send the tickets instead of money she can ask for refund from the airlines.
If you really like the girl best thing is to travel to her place to meet her. It is highly unlikely you will be able to screw her but you never know. All PHI girls profess " I love you very much " without even meeting you. The reason is like any girl all over the world who wants a saviour to make their life better and all want a loving husband and children. In Phi age does not seem to be a factor with poor people.Thanks for the advice mate.. but I think "doesnt apply" Have the Filipina wife, lived there for 5 years, am an inveterate, and vetaran player there, have regualr weekend trips there where I always get 3-4 in 72 hour trips.. so my interest in a girl who maybe a virgin is purely from the hunting angle.
Tho I will add when I lived there I had 6 virgins, all of whom were well over 18..
Good point about her not telling the family.
How did you arrive at "95% OF THE TIME THEY WILL NOT SHOW UP"?
And I'm pretty sure you can arrange a ticket that cannot be refunded.
X
Be aware that in many instances, as far as the family is concerned the girl is a virgin. It is the social thing in PHI. Even if the girl has lost her cherry she will not tell her family or others. Marriage prospects are better for her if she is a " Techical Virgin ".
Another thing is that girl lives with her parents. She will have to ask for permission to go anywhere. Next thing she is going to tell you is she wants to bring her friend along because she is scared. If you agree and send money for tickets 95% of the time they will not show up. Even if you send the tickets instead of money she can ask for refund from the airlines.
If you really like the girl best thing is to travel to her place to meet her. It is highly unlikely you will be able to screw her but you never know. All PHI girls profess " I love you very much " without even meeting you. The reason is like any girl all over the world who wants a saviour to make their life better and all want a loving husband and children. In Phi age does not seem to be a factor with poor people.
Cuba Tourist
03-12-09, 04:57
another interesting one---
i olredi enrol at univ.b.a at political science!hope i can mke it
- i can be very shy around people i have never met before and i know that often comes off as bitchy, but trust me i dont mean it like that at all. -
- i still dont get why i get shy sometimes. -
- in all honesty i personally dont care if you like me or not. just please do yourself a favor and keep my fucking name out of your mouth.
- neweiz maybe i am too adventurous and naughty at times but i do know my limitations.. people often misunderstood me.. so you fucking people who does nothing but spread gossip! "dont judge a book by its cover" you dont know me.. this saying is so lame but true..
anyhow,. i am trying to change myself now.. ive been pretty fed up of who and what i am.. i am 20 and getting old.. life has been really though for me.. i am more matured now.. and pretty independent.. however i feel like being alone.. i wanna isolate myself from the very wide ridiculous world ive been in.. i am willing to surrender everything,. from my beliefs to peers.. i wanna be someone else.. a new michelle deguzman delacruz..
loosing something uve treasured the most has made me realize of who i am becoming.. this has made me stronger and gave me dedications to finally move forward.. time will come when eventually things will go smoother for me.. but as of the moment i am pretty much not contented of this lifestyle..
so a new me is about to come.. i am hoping it'll work out..
uhm addition to that im pursuasive.. hahaha.. pursuasive it is.. ehem.. i only said this so that ul be contented febri.. hahaha.. i am not.. geeez
- ive realized. how i never needed certain people in my life. i found out who matters and who never did. i know who's gonna be there for me when i need them. and who are/have walked out of my life for good. -
..sometimes you just gotta be weird, go against the crowd and act stupid, laugh till you cry and cry till you can't feel the pain.
don't listen to what other people say.
you know you're being yourself and that's all that counts.
don't worry what they willthink about you. your true friends will stay by you.
*so just be yourself*
GregLondon
03-12-09, 07:05
Hi,
I've just found that I've been locked out of DIA which is a pain. Of the various possible reasons the only one that could apply is sending the same message to lots of different girls. Something that I suspect most of us do.
Does anyone have a feel for how much multi message sending DIA will tolerate. Also as far as setting up another profile is concerned are there any complications. I presume one needs a new email? Do they also check you internet ID etc?
Does anyone have a feel for how much multi message sending DIA will tolerate.
Last year I was trying to send messages and chat with seven women at the same time (a frivolous exercise) when all of a sudden the website slowed me down by making me type a code into a box before I sent each message. So they have anti-spamming systems in place that are triggered by rapid messaging.
Scout 7272
03-13-09, 06:01
Just came back from Manila. Met this girl who works as saleslady. Through DIA. We had chatted for a while and got a bit raunchy online. She is in late 20s, more mature than most and got nice body and really big lips.
Arranged to meet at my hotel (Traders) for dinner. No mention of money as she has a job.
Thinking I would take a while for the seduction to take place so imagined a long flirtatious night before the fornication would start.
Met her as she got out the cab. And she looked nervous and first thing she said: "can we go to your room for our drink. I feel nervous in public".
Off we went to my room. As we opened the door. Gave her a peck on the cheek which turned into a full on DFK session. On to the couch where it was rip off our clothes time.
I got no bloody sleep as it was pretty full on all night.
Next morning breakfast and she had to rush home to get changed for work.
I offered to pay for her cab which she refused.
Lesson is with DIA. Pick a woman with a job and with more mature attitude and don; t make any promises to them either.
Amazing things can happen if you use your brain first before your dick.
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GregLondon
03-13-09, 08:48
Hi,
I've just found that I've been locked out of DIA which is a pain. Of the various possible reasons the only one that could apply is sending the same message to lots of different girls. Something that I suspect most of us do.
Does anyone have a feel for how much multi message sending DIA will tolerate. Also as far as setting up another profile is concerned are there any complications. I presume one needs a new email? Do they also check you internet ID etc?Having read the DIA site it seems that they use complaints from other members to automatically ban people if you get enough complaints. I don't think my profile said anything offensice except that I was not interested in ladyboys or hearing from scammers. Maybe the scammers and ladyboys got their revenge??
It's kind of nice to get seduced once in a while. But I have to tell you scout, I think she's just using you for your body.
Ordinary salesladies don't make much money. You probably should have insisted.
Anyway, great post.
X
Just came back from Manila. Met this girl who works as saleslady. Through DIA. We had chatted for a while and got a bit raunchy online. She is in late 20s, more mature than most and got nice body and really big lips.
Arranged to meet at my hotel (Traders) for dinner. No mention of money as she has a job.
Thinking I would take a while for the seduction to take place so imagined a long flirtatious night before the fornication would start.
Met her as she got out the cab. And she looked nervous and first thing she said: "can we go to your room for our drink. I feel nervous in public".
Off we went to my room. As we opened the door. Gave her a peck on the cheek which turned into a full on DFK session. On to the couch where it was rip off our clothes time.
I got no bloody sleep as it was pretty full on all night.
Next morning breakfast and she had to rush home to get changed for work.
I offered to pay for her cab which she refused.
Lesson is with DIA. Pick a woman with a job and with more mature attitude and don; t make any promises to them either.
Amazing things can happen if you use your brain first before your dick.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
very good english. i have to suspect there is some pansy-ass british guy wearing stockings, lip stick and high heels as he types out that message.
i could be wrong....
x man
(no offense to my british friends)
another interesting one---
i olredi enrol at univ.b.a at political science!hope i can mke it
- i can be very shy around people i have never met before and i know that often comes off as bitchy, but trust me i dont mean it like that at all. -
- i still dont get why i get shy sometimes. -
- in all honesty i personally dont care if you like me or not. just please do yourself a favor and keep my fucking name out of your mouth.
- neweiz maybe i am too adventurous and naughty at times but i do know my limitations.. people often misunderstood me.. so you fucking people who does nothing but spread gossip! "dont judge a book by its cover" you dont know me.. this saying is so lame but true..
anyhow,. i am trying to change myself now.. ive been pretty fed up of who and what i am.. i am 20 and getting old.. life has been really though for me.. i am more matured now.. and pretty independent.. however i feel like being alone.. i wanna isolate myself from the very wide ridiculous world ive been in.. i am willing to surrender everything,. from my beliefs to peers.. i wanna be someone else.. a new michelle deguzman delacruz..
loosing something uve treasured the most has made me realize of who i am becoming.. this has made me stronger and gave me dedications to finally move forward.. time will come when eventually things will go smoother for me.. but as of the moment i am pretty much not contented of this lifestyle..
so a new me is about to come.. i am hoping it'll work out..
uhm addition to that im pursuasive.. hahaha.. pursuasive it is.. ehem.. i only said this so that ul be contented febri.. hahaha.. i am not.. geeez
- ive realized. how i never needed certain people in my life. i found out who matters and who never did. i know who's gonna be there for me when i need them. and who are/have walked out of my life for good. -
..sometimes you just gotta be weird, go against the crowd and act stupid, laugh till you cry and cry till you can't feel the pain.
don't listen to what other people say.
you know you're being yourself and that's all that counts.
don't worry what they willthink about you. your true friends will stay by you.
*so just be yourself*
Cuba Tourist
03-14-09, 03:11
The DIA name for this one is emsdcute13 from makati:
im a **** coz ill wear short and a tanktop,im a bicth coz i dont let u push me around.... (see below for her full text.)
I wrote her and she didn't answer.....
At first, I see all these pics on friendster. These gals will have hundreds of pics. Many of the pics will be the same, for example there will be a photo album of Boracay, and there will be about 10 pics of the gal wearing the same outfit at the same location, just different poses, but not that different.
At first, I think gee these gals sure are vain. But then I think. Friendster, its a Philippines phenomenon LOL. What else do they use the PC for?Tony my GF's all do the same thing.. they stand around taking endless self portraits with their cell phones & posting them on FS. For the love of god how many times can you at pictures of yourself? But these girls are FASCINATED by it. I guess they have very shallow lives..
Im so glad I bring a little excitement into their boring lives ;)
AV
Scout 7272
03-19-09, 07:10
X- man,
I hope to god she is using me for my body. Hate to think its for my brain. As at the moment when I hit Manila the last thing that functions properly is my brain. And definitely next time I am going to make sure she does take some money or treat her to something.
At same time. I'm not wanting to get too close in case she thinks I want some sort of serious relationship.
Besides I have a few more on DIA I am working myself through.
But as I said before. Using DIA is a bit hit and miss. You need to really be smart in case you get hooked by some scammer.
GregLondon
03-20-09, 08:25
Having read the DIA site it seems that they use complaints from other members to automatically ban people if you get enough complaints. I don't think my profile said anything offensice except that I was not interested in ladyboys or hearing from scammers. Maybe the scammers and ladyboys got their revenge??It turns out that it is quite difficult to get back onto DIA if you have been banned for some reason. If you are using your own PC/Laptop you are in trouble as their site detects your IP details. It also won't help if you try to use an anonymous web surfing sit as you can only use the site if you have enabled cookies. A real pain.
It turns out that it is quite difficult to get back onto DIA if you have been banned for some reason. If you are using your own PC/Laptop you are in trouble as their site detects your IP details. It also won't help if you try to use an anonymous web surfing sit as you can only use the site if you have enabled cookies. A real pain.You must have been hitting that site hard for that to happen Greg!
Commiserations as its fun to surf the thousands of pretty girls advertising themseles there!
My suggestion is go hit some other sites for a while because the ban will probably expire after a period of time. Other suggestion is change ISP (if you are logging in from home) or if you have a laptop, go log in using another Wifi network.
You understand you will be now going to the site from a different (not banned) IP address right Greg?
I suggest start a fresh account, for gods sakes dont go to the site from another network & try to login with your old user/pass ok?
Good hunting!
AV
In addition to AV's advice, I suggest contacting them directly and asking why you were banned and/or apologizing and asking to be reinstated.
A while back when I was a paying member at Cherry BLossom I put my email address (without the 'at' mark) in my message (against the rules) and it went unnoticed. My payment period expired and the message remained. After about four months I updated something trivial and bam...banned. An apology and some lame excuse got me reinstated even though I wasn't a paying member.
It's worth a try.
X
You must have been hitting that site hard for that to happen Greg!
Commiserations as its fun to surf the thousands of pretty girls advertising themseles there!
My suggestion is go hit some other sites for a while because the ban will probably expire after a period of time. Other suggestion is change ISP (if you are logging in from home) or if you have a laptop, go log in using another Wifi network.
You understand you will be now going to the site from a different (not banned) IP address right Greg?
I suggest start a fresh account, for gods sakes dont go to the site from another network & try to login with your old user/pass ok?
Good hunting!
AV
Just logged onto yahoo to find two friends in Manlia online, only problem was both ID's belong to the same person. I got chating to both and wasn't hard to work out which one was my friend and which one wasn't.
My guess was my friend forget to log out while in a cafe and then someone has come along and changed their password and started using their ID. My friend thought they had forgotten their password and because they not use ID much, never worried about it until I came apon the problem.
The person who stole my friends ID didn't seem to care that they were using someone else ID which still had my friends picture on it. They just said "I own the account" and to stop talking to them. Who knows what they are using my friends account for.
I told my friend to get in and change password again, but WTF. Can never be too careful while using a cafe.
Another thing to look out for is a lady lending her ym to a friend or younger sis/cousin. Or worse, mom or sis/ cousin is looking over the shoulder reading the exchange. If your chat is headed in the naughty direction, it's best to ask a few questions first.
My points are a bit different than what BD described, but it made me think of a few of my own irregular experiences.
X
Just logged onto yahoo to find two friends in Manlia online, only problem was both ID's belong to the same person. I got chating to both and wasn't hard to work out which one was my friend and which one wasn't.
My guess was my friend forget to log out while in a cafe and then someone has come along and changed their password and started using their ID. My friend thought they had forgotten their password and because they not use ID much, never worried about it until I came apon the problem.
The person who stole my friends ID didn't seem to care that they were using someone else ID which still had my friends picture on it. They just said "I own the account" and to stop talking to them. Who knows what they are using my friends account for.
I told my friend to get in and change password again, but WTF. Can never be too careful while using a cafe.
Alright guys, I've heard a little about using chat sites to pick up girls and/or have them waiting for you when you go to PI. The chat site I've ever tried is AFF and it was such a waste of money AND time. Time is the big problem for me. I hate wasting time making a profile, checking it all the time, advertising myself, and doing all this for a couple of hours everyday for nothing. I want to ask you guys honestly is it worth it?
The sites I know of are DIA, cherryblossums, and filipinahearts. If you all feel it definitely worthwhile, then my plan is to make accounts there and advertise myself. (I'm not sure if I should do free or paid accounts.) I speak Filipino also if that helps. Also what can of info should I post? Should I just post the basics or should I also post photos or is posting photo too risky? (my wife is filipina) I guess I should also that I have been to once already so I know what PI is like but I have never tried the chat site approach. I wanted to try to pick up local girls when I was there but I kept thinking that I would get scammed since most of the time I was in major cities like Cebu city, Manila, AC. I kept telling myself that if I go to Davao or the provinces then I'll pick up some local girls.
Alright guys, I've heard a little about using chat sites to pick up girls and/or have them waiting for you when you go to PI. The chat site I've ever tried is AFF and it was such a waste of money AND time. Time is the big problem for me. I hate wasting time making a profile, checking it all the time, advertising myself, and doing all this for a couple of hours everyday for nothing. I want to ask you guys honestly is it worth it?
The sites I know of are DIA, cherryblossums, and filipinahearts. If you all feel it definitely worthwhile, then my plan is to make accounts there and advertise myself. (I'm not sure if I should do free or paid accounts.) I speak Filipino also if that helps. Also what can of info should I post? Should I just post the basics or should I also post photos or is posting photo too risky? (my wife is filipina) I guess I should also that I have been to once already so I know what PI is like but I have never tried the chat site approach. I wanted to try to pick up local girls when I was there but I kept thinking that I would get scammed since most of the time I was in major cities like Cebu city, Manila, AC. I kept telling myself that if I go to Davao or the provinces then I'll pick up some local girls.1) Bored just doin it for giggles as a time filler? Do it.
2) Lonely bachelor with lots of time on your hands? Do it.
3) Looking to learn a little about the way the chicks think/speak/act? Do it.
4) Want to line up a couple to check out as soon as you arrive? Sure why not.
5) Married to a filippina? Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!! DONT DO IT!!!
She WILL have many cousins/friends back home in PI who are active on these very same sites! They WILL see you & they WILL inform her!!!!
Do you have a death wish man? :)
All jokes aside it can be an ok ice breaker for a newbie to get a few girls lined up but dont waste hours on it.
Dont get a profile more than 4 weeks before you leave, I'd say 2 weeks in advance is plenty. The chicks go 'off the boil' pretty quick as they are constantly being hit on every day on those sites ( hitting on guys constantly daily i might add).
Put up a flattering pic with just a few reassuring words about your self & hint about coming very soon & where. You will get LOTS of 'bites' believe me.
Pick the a couple that are most attractive to you & chase them up with a few chats.
Have a squiz through the profiles for some chicks that stand out from the crowd but dont make it a big deal to win them over. Sometimes you get lucky.
Dont spend hours chatting to any of them. Get their cp #'s. Follow them up when you get there. Sometimes you get lucky other times its an anticlimactic waste of time/money. Dont go chasing after them when you get there. Make them come to you. The place is filled to bursting with desirable/available young women. After you visit here once or twice you will calm down & develop the confidence to pick up nice GF's/Freebies practically anywhere.
If you're married may i suggest you give it a swerve & just to Angeles and go bang your brains out? Seriously, P4P is a LOT safer & easier than advertising yourself on the internet & them chasing after strangers.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida] 1) Bored just doin it for giggles as a time filler? Do it.
2) Lonely bachelor with lots of time on your hands? Do it. 3) Looking to learn a little about the way the chicks think/speak/act? Do it. [\QUOTE]1). i’m a student so I’m always busy and I never ever have much time.
2). i’m married
3). I speak Filipino so. .
[QUOTE=Amavida] 4) Want to line up a couple to check out as soon as you arrive? Sure why not. [\QUOTE]Bingo! That’s me. I just want to have as many sexy girls waiting for me as possible since when I go to the PI, I usu. Stay for at least a month. (that’s how it has been so far at least)
[QUOTE=Amavida] 5) Married to a filippina? Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh! Don't DO IT! She WILL have many cousins/friends back home in PI who are active on these very same sites! They WILL see you & they WILL inform her!
Do you have a death wish man? [\QUOTE]So, on a serious note are you saying I should do it or not do it? I was thinking I could do it without sharing photos but I’m not sure that would work. (or would it? )
[QUOTE=Amavida]All jokes aside it can be an ok ice breaker for a newbie to get a few girls lined up but don't waste hours on it. [\QUOTE]Well, i’m not a newbie since I been to the PI before and I stayed for almost a month.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Put up a flattering pic with just a few reassuring words about your self & hint about coming very soon & where. You will get LOTS of 'bites' believe me. [\QUOTE]ok, so pics are mandatory then?
[QUOTE=Amavida]don't spend hours chatting to any of them. Get their CP #'s. Follow them up when you get there. Sometimes you get lucky other times its an anticlimactic waste of time/money. Don't go chasing after them when you get there. Make them come to you. The place is filled to bursting with desirable/available young women. After you visit here once or twice you will calm down & develop the confidence to pick up nice GF's/Freebies practically anywhere. [\QUOTE]I definitely won’t spend much time on their unless we "connect" in some kind of way. GFE doesn’t mean much to me although it is nice. I just like banging hot girls and from the quick search I did on AFF, DIA, blossoms, and hearts, there were a lot of HOT girls on there. I don’t if most or all of them are scams but damn 70-80% of those chicks were banging. That’s a high percentage!
[QUOTE=Amavida]If you're married may I suggest you give it a swerve & just to Angeles and go bang your brains out? Seriously, P4P is a LOT safer & easier than advertising yourself on the internet & them chasing after strangers. [\QUOTE]This is very true but I’ll already been to AC and don’t get me wrong, I really enjoyed and I will be going back but I want to try out some new things. Also, I don’t think I saw one single working girl in AC that made me almost bust a nut in my pants by just looking at her. Although of course I saw some regular girls that gave me that effect but that’s besides the point. I’ve said it before and I’ll reiterate it again. IMHO, AC would be perfect if it had a couple of bars where you could go and find available girls that are as fine as the so-called "models" working on P. Burgos. I’ve never been to Burgos St. Yet so I don’t know if the girls are actually really sexy as hell but from what I’ve read on the internet and stories I heard from my friends, they are supposedly the finest girls out there when you compare Philippines and Thailand.
GregLondon
03-26-09, 22:09
In addition to AV's advice, I suggest contacting them directly and asking why you were banned and/or apologizing and asking to be reinstated.
A while back when I was a paying member at Cherry BLossom I put my email address (without the 'at' mark) in my message (against the rules) and it went unnoticed. My payment period expired and the message remained. After about four months I updated something trivial and bam...banned. An apology and some lame excuse got me reinstated even though I wasn't a paying member.
It's worth a try.
XThanks for the suggestions guys. My next plan is to create an account in an internet shop, which shouldnt be picked up, then I'm hoping thayt once iyt is approved I wil be able to log on with my laptop when I'm in a different place withouty them being able to trace that the messages are comming from this specific computer. I'll delete the cookies and hope that works. The problem is that DIA has to have a very aggressive ant I scaming policy as it is so full of scammers. Which seems to have caught out me a legitimate user whose only misdemeanour's was to cut and paste and email tthe same message to a load of chicks.
I just want to line up lots of sexy girls...Ok thats cool. It can be done but it is hit & miss. It can quickly chew up valuable copulating time. If it works this trip, congrats & enjoy but if it does'nt dont be surprised. The girls will often play you & dick you around. Like i said, if it works out its very nice but most mongers will agree that trying to get them lined up like ducks in a row produces variable results from trip to trip.
You need to be highly organised other wise you end up with a cell phone full of messages from identified numbers. Its not unusual for them to give you one number & them sms you from a cousins or sisters cp. They rarely use their name in messages (coz they are the only one you are meeting RIGHT?) It quickly gets unmanageable...
The punters that have the best results are VERY up front on their internet profile & chats about what they want. They make no bones about wanting sex & intending to butterfly. This way they only talk to those type of chicks who have enough mileage to handle it. Low mileage girls are gonna be very suspicious hence much harder to organise & potentially time wasting.
Personally i go for quality over quantity. Im happy to pursue just one low mileage girl if i feel she's worth it. I really prefer GFE over frantic copulation all over the place but that's just me. To each his own...
I’ve never been to Burgos St. Yet so I don’t know if the girls are actually really sexy as hell but from what I’ve read on the internet and stories I heard from my friends, they are supposedly the finest girls out there when you compare Philippines and Thailand.Dont get too excited about Burgos.
The girls looks there vary. The bar's there generally have more consistant quality & more nicely presented girls than in AC for instance. Instead of flouro bikin's you probably find Burgos BG's dressed in a uniform of LBD (Little black dress). They could step out on the street & look like a chick going home from the disco. These bars are often empty & you will get mobbed by heaps of very doable girls. Peak periods like saturday nights the bars get busy. Asian holiday season & Xmass etc also VERY busy.
They are often a little older, more experienced & professional. The prices are much higher. Your unlikely to get fresh off the farm chicks on Burgos. But if you choose well you will usually have a very satisfying BF.
Each bar has its own personality. Don't be in a rush, walk through & check them all out & see what you like. A word of warning - a couple of the Burgos bars charge VERY high prices for drinks & the girls don't BF in those. Read the makati threads about which to avoid.
My personal favourites are Fridays & especially Hollywood. I dont look for flashy bars for drinking sessions. I look for bars with plenty of good quality chicks available to BF with a helpful mamsan.
AV
P.S. If your are married especially to a Pinay it is sudden death to advertise yourself on the Internet. Hope you have a pre-nup...
P.P.S. Please dear god learn how to use the quotes! - I nearly went blind trying to read your jumbled up post.
Ok thats cool. It can be done but it is hit & miss. It can quickly chew up valuable copulating time. If it works this trip, congrats & enjoy but if it does'nt dont be surprised. The girls will often play you & dick you around. Like i said, if it works out its very nice but most mongers will agree that trying to get them lined up like ducks in a row produces variable results from trip to trip.
You need to be highly organised other wise you end up with a cell phone full of messages from identified numbers. Its not unusual for them to give you one number & them sms you from a cousins or sisters cp. They rarely use their name in messages (coz they are the only one you are meeting RIGHT?) It quickly gets unmanageable...
The punters that have the best results are VERY up front on their internet profile & chats about what they want. They make no bones about wanting sex & intending to butterfly. This way they only talk to those type of chicks who have enough mileage to handle it. Low mileage girls are gonna be very suspicious hence much harder to organise & potentially time wasting.
Personally i go for quality over quantity. Im happy to pursue just one low mileage girl if i feel she's worth it. I really prefer GFE over frantic copulation all over the place but that's just me. To each his own...
Dont get too excited about Burgos.
The girls looks there vary. The bar's there generally have more consistant quality & more nicely presented girls than in AC for instance. Instead of flouro bikin's you probably find Burgos BG's dressed in a uniform of LBD (Little black dress). They could step out on the street & look like a chick going home from the disco. These bars are often empty & you will get mobbed by heaps of very doable girls. Peak periods like saturday nights the bars get busy. Asian holiday season & Xmass etc also VERY busy.
They are often a little older, more experienced & professional. The prices are much higher. Your unlikely to get fresh off the farm chicks on Burgos. But if you choose well you will usually have a very satisfying BF.
Each bar has its own personality. Don't be in a rush, walk through & check them all out & see what you like. A word of warning - a couple of the Burgos bars charge VERY high prices for drinks & the girls don't BF in those. Read the makati threads about which to avoid.
My personal favourites are Fridays & especially Hollywood. I dont look for flashy bars for drinking sessions. I look for bars with plenty of good quality chicks available to BF with a helpful mamsan.
Agree with pretty much everything you say.
I can get excited about Burgos, but as you say, the LD/barfine prices are exhorbitant, in most of the bars.
In terms of Laylow3's questions on, "the finest girls out there when you compare Philippines and Thailand". Based on my trips to both, last year, I'm not sure that any bar can compare to Shark Bar in Soi Cowboy in terms of sheer volume of drop-dead hotties. But, as is usually the case, you'll get better GFE in the Phils, even from Burgos, than from most girls in Bangkok/Pattaya.
FreebieFan
03-28-09, 05:40
Av
P.S. If your are married especially to a Pinay it is sudden death to advertise yourself on the Internet. Hope you have a pre-nup.
Amavida. Nothing like a dramatically bad as you say. Been married for a long time to a Filipina and I am on all the " pick up " sites (with great and regualr success I should add) Thankfully no cousins sisters or anyone else yet found me. Tho I should add I won't go on Facebook in case my kids see me there. LOL
GregLondon
03-28-09, 20:54
Thanks for the suggestions guys. My next plan is to create an account in an internet shop, which shouldnt be picked up, then I'm hoping thayt once iyt is approved I wil be able to log on with my laptop when I'm in a different place withouty them being able to trace that the messages are comming from this specific computer. I'll delete the cookies and hope that works. The problem is that DIA has to have a very aggressive ant I scaming policy as it is so full of scammers. Which seems to have caught out me a legitimate user whose only misdemeanour's was to cut and paste and email tthe same message to a load of chicks.For future reference, the solution seems to be to go to an internet cafe and set up a new account. They seem to check the computer/internet ID when u first set up a new account, then if you pass you can use your own computer/net connection (better delete cookies first though)
Av
P.S. If your are married especially to a Pinay it is sudden death to advertise yourself on the Internet. Hope you have a pre-nup.
Amavida. Nothing like a dramatically bad as you say. Been married for a long time to a Filipina and I am on all the " pick up " sites (with great and regualr success I should add) Thankfully no cousins sisters or anyone else yet found me. Tho I should add I won't go on Facebook in case my kids see me there. LOLG'day FF! I'd say your a very lucky man in that case. Maybe we mix with a different age group. Every pinay i've had LTR with has been familliar with dating/social network sites along with many of her friends & cousins. I caution newbies to be aware of this & tread carefully!
Friendster is my biggest worry. You get a GF & before you know it she has plastered your mug all over her fs account. Even when trying not to cheat you find yourself being solicited by HER friends & friends of her friends! I think someone here on the forum said they call it 'shopping'. I've experienced it.
I've met many girls who tell me how they caught their BF/hubbie advertising themselves on the net. In the west a wife is on her own but in PI women are big on networking.
IMHO the only way a married guy can minimise risk of discovery is advertise for short period & then hide the profile while following up contacts. The longer you leave a profile up the greater the risk of accidental or deliberate discovery.
Native born pinays are all distrustful, they grew up in a highly competitive environment where men cheat endemically. Maybe you're married to an older non net using westernised pinay?
Good luck to you FF!
AV
IMHO the only way a married guy can minimise risk of discovery is advertise for short period & then hide the profile while following up contacts. The longer you leave a profile up the greater the risk of accidental or deliberate discovery.
Native born pinays are all distrustful, they grew up in a highly competitive environment where men cheat endemically.
Maybe you're married to an older non net using westernised pinay?
Good luck to you FF!
AVSo when you say hide the profile, what do you mean? Do you mean totally deleting the profile or do you mean simply removing all the pictures of yourself? Of course, I'll be using fake names. But if she has your picture already, then what is the use of "hiding your profile" or taking down the pictures?
Yes, my wife is super distrustful and jealous when it comes to me and other women. Even her family. Check this out, when I went to visit her family in PI last year she made sure that all of the females that usually stay at their house was gone. I know for a fact that she has about 5-6 females living at her house in the PI but they were nowhere to be found when I got there. I agree with you that they are always wondering what we are up to.
Kavorka341
03-29-09, 21:28
I met a young lady online who I'm planning to meet next month.
She has only shown me pictures from the waist up as she says she has a big butt.
The face is great, and small titties which I like, but she tells me she has a size 36 butt.
My problem is I have no idea how big a 'size 36' butt is?
Any help appreciated.
Cunning Stunt
03-30-09, 05:38
i would be cautious about plastering your photo on one of the dating only sites such as dia. after all, what other reason, apart from chasing pussy, could you have for being there? the social networking sites such as friendster, my space and tagged are much safer in that you could concoct relatively valid reasons for joining … i.e making online friends, posting photos for family etc. her indoors, if she found out (unlikely), might be suspicious but with no proof of nefarious activities (make sure that you have a few older 50+ women and guys amongst your friends – not all nubile 18 year olds:d), what can she do? oh, the tangled webs we weave ….
speaking of tagged, i joined several weeks ago, after reading about it here and have been dangling my juicy worm ever since. had plenty of bites but most have had to be thrown back for various reasons relating to age, body shape (fat) or looks. had one interesting case of cyber stalkery in which a 48 year old fugly bombarded me with those annoying tags and countless messages of undying love. she seems to have gone quiet so maybe she has been returned to the asylum. another girl asked me to contact her by email and then sent me an interesting message which had little head springing to attention, together with some even more interesting photos (have a look). well, i never!! guess it was a scam or trying to entice me onto a pay site, or something.
but finally took the plunge last week and met two likely lasses, that looked reasonably good bets. the first was a 32 year old, rather plump but in all the right places, but otherwise rather tasty. we met for a rather pleasant glass of wine and merienda at a atc wine bar. purely platonic and nothing came of it, but we have agreed to meet again and she says that she would like to get to know me better;). suspect (and hope) that this means carnally. i reckon that she is married as she was a little evasive about her status, so maybe she is after a little fling. hope so, but if not, no problem, as she is rather sweet and to keep his feet on the ground a chap needs a few platonic lady friends amongst all of the fuck buddies.
the next liaison definitely comes under the latter category. this was a 19 year old, rather tasty but rep001ty bint that i met and treated to lunch yesterday. she immediately told me that she thought i was phil collins (not looked like …was, anyway is this a complement or an insult and what is a 19 year old doing being a fan of mr collins?). i immediately thought …’eyup …got a right one here’, but persisted and found her delightful, if a little weird (i seem to attract them like a cookie magnet ..the nutter on the bus always sits next to me). for some reason we got onto the subject of sex (what a surprise) and she told me that she lost her virginity at 14, had had a few boyfriends including a 60 year old swedish guy who sends her p10,000 a month and that she likes older men. well this was my cue and in a trice i had whipped her off to eurotel where i proceeded to show her that an old dog know all the best tricks. i wasn’t sure whether this was a p4p encounter or not so offered her a bluey as taxi money. she wasn’t offended and took the money with thanks, but i got the impression that a kiss and a bar of hersheys would have made her just as happy.
yet again, life in the philippines continues to delight and astonish me. could you, in your wildest wet dreams, imagine a similar thing happening back home?… to a phil collins lookalike or not;).
So when you say hide the profile, what do you mean?Sites like CB (Cherry Blossoms) & DIA Date In Asia) for example have a 'hide profile' setting in their account screen (Gee i wonder why?). Your profile is temporarily hidden from public view. Hide & unhide as the need arises but dont leave it up for prolonged periods.
Yes, my wife is super distrustful and jealous when it comes to me and other women.In that case its only a matter of time before your Pinay wife discovers your online activities either herself or by a relative/friend.
GH has some good suggestions in a following post about sticking to 'friend' (Tagged, Hi5, Freindster etc etc) sites & avoiding 'dating sites' (CB, DIA, FH etc). You will have to put in a LOT of effort to make your profile page look innocent as GH say's & remain vigilant to that none of your , er 'friends', posts a juicy comment there.
Even so your Pinay wife is going to be livid. FS & Tagged are well know as 'flirting/pickup places' amongst singles. She's not stupid mate!
Congratulations if you have gotten away with it up to this point. Enjoy it while it lasts.
AV
GregLondon
03-30-09, 07:04
Curious as to how much the various scamsetrs one encounters make per week on DIA etc.
I asked one cam girl I got to know a bit and she claimed that she only made 500P a week after the agency took is cut - which seemed unrealistically low.
A friend of mine has got a very cute and wonderfully fun (and even better bisexual) fiancee through DIA. He actually met her on his second day in the Phils when having had a disappointing encounter with a girl he had been cultivating fpr several months, went to a net cafe and saw her on line. it turned out that it wasn't actually her on line but some ladyboy freinds of hers who were using her photo but after some confusion they put him in touch with her and hes been with her 3 years now. She said that her Ladyboy friends are online over 12 hours a day trying scams and that they usually get one or two big hits a week - where some dumb American guy sends them P20 -40k to allow them to "finish their nurse training" or such like. This seems on the high side to me. Anyine else have dfeedback on this one? I think one has to differentiate the cam girls who are actually providinga service 9even if te ones offering a free voew as long as you sign up and put your credit card details through age verification etc are doing it dishonestly. From the various scams asking for plane ticket, bus fare money finishing college, burrying grandmother etc etc.
Maybe she 32-26-36. Or close to that. I don't think she means size 36 jeans and 36" waist!!! 36" hips, OK.
i would be cautious about plastering your photo on one of the dating only sites such as dia. after all, what other reason, apart from chasing pussy, could you have for being there? the social networking sites such as friendster, my space and tagged are much safer in that you could concoct relatively valid reasons for joining … i.e making online friends, posting photos for family etc. agreed & seconded.
speaking of tagged, i joined several weeks ago... had plenty of bites but most have had to be thrown back for various reasons relating to age, body shape (fat) or looks.thats been my experience also gh. i put up an innocent tagged page 2 weeks ago & got plenty of unsolicited bites most of which were.. ahem.. below my expectatiions.. ;) a couple looked very tasty. i feel dia & tagged are great value. friendster i avoid - whilst full of honeys, just too popular as a pick up site amongst pinays to look innocent there.
btw number 1 gf 'discovered' my tagged page & immediately went nuclear & demanded its removal hehehe :) she's not stupid! since im already well catered for in the carnal department at the moment i let it slide.
but finally took the plunge last week and met two likely lasses.. that looked reasonably good bets. the first was a 32 year old,.. we have agreed to meet again and she says that she would like to get to know me better;). suspect (and hope) that this means carnally.tally ho mate! :d
the next liaison definitely comes under the latter category. this was a 19 year old, rather tasty but rep001ty bint that i met and treated to lunch yesterday... found her delightful, if a little weird..i really love doing these kinds of dipsy hippie chick types!
had a few boyfriends including a 60 year old swedish guy who sends her p10,000 a month and that she likes older men.yes im sure she bloody does, when these guys are so stupid to assume fidelity from a fuck toy 19yr old!
... in a trice i had whipped her off to eurotel where i proceeded to show her that an old dog know all the best tricksnice tits on that one, thanks for sharing gh. im sure you enjoyed doing her as much as i would ;)
yet again, life in the philippines continues to delight and astonish me. could you, in your wildest wet dreams, imagine a similar thing happening back home?too right cobber! an occasional trip back to oz gives ma a bloody big wake up call.. smile at a 19yr old hottie there, she slaps you & calls you a dirty old man. smile at a 19yr old hottie here, she smiles back & offers her cp #. incredible!
thanks again for sharing gh
av
I still find myself wrongly assuming Pinays think/behave like western chicks.
Been experimanting with putting up profile page that for myself that is OBVIOUSLY lovie-dovie with a joint photo of the happy couple to gage the response.
Im staggered to find I STILL get chicks hitting on me regularly.
No bloody wonder these chicks are so suspicious & distrustful!
Its a no holds barred free for all it seems with Pinays.
The have no compunction about poaching a guy from another chick.
It seems it does'nt matter WHAT you put on your profile.. if you have a heart beat & a wallet you are fair game!
What thinks ye lad's?
AV
Cunning Stunt
03-30-09, 07:52
Nice tits on that one, thanks for sharing GH. Im sure you enjoyed doing her as much as I would ;)
Thanks but think you must have been looking at the pic of the scam girl who wasn't Pinay. The cutey from yesterday had itsy bitsty, teeny weeny titties, but you know that more than a handful is a waste;).
Your right about the western sexual mores. It seems as though as soon as a guy hits 40, he should mysteriously transmogrify from being a horny young stud into a near celibate who should be satisfied by a once weekly (or monthly), rapidly completed, bounce atop the dogsbreath and strife. A lot of my friends and contemporaries back home are happy with this and sometimes less. Those that know of my lifestyle out here either don't believe me or are green with envy:D.
Cunning Stunt
03-30-09, 08:06
Im staggered to find I STILL get chicks hitting on me regularly.
No bloody wonder these chicks are so suspicious & distrustful!
Its a no holds barred free for all it seems with Pinays.
The have no compunction about poaching a guy from another chick.
I'm surprised that you are surprised. It really is a buyers market out there, with guys been the buyers. I read somewhere that some enormous proportion of the Philippine population (?60-70%) are aged under 30 and that girls outnumber boys by an also not inconsiderable degree. Wish I had the article and stats to hand so I could quote the correctly. Maybe one of the Philippine ISG intellectual stalwarts (?GE) will remember and know the figures.
Guess this is why girls are so savagely competitive to avoid being 'left on the shelf'.
GregLondon
03-30-09, 08:47
I'm surprised that you are surprised. It really is a buyers market out there, with guys been the buyers. I read somewhere that some enormous proportion of the Philippine population (?60-70%) are aged under 30 and that girls outnumber boys by an also not inconsiderable degree. Wish I had the article and stats to hand so I could quote the correctly. Maybe one of the Philippine ISG intellectual stalwarts (?GE) will remember and know the figures.
Guess this is why girls are so savagely competitive to avoid being 'left on the shelf'.The natural birth ratio is about 106 boys to 100 girls. We have evolved this ratio as in our evolutionary past, the death rate among males was higher so that by the expected breedingage the numbers would have balanced.
In countries such as India and China where social custom has been in favour of boys and infanticide/ selective abortion is prevalent the ratio has been up to 140 boys/100 girls in some countryside districts. As females live on average about 5 years longer the total number of females in most countries is higher than the total number of males, but the surplus is in old ladies not nubile hotties I'm afraid.
Atamavida & Gamahucher. So just to sum things up, I should post profiles on Friendster and Tagged. Do NOT use any date only sites. Also I should only put up a profile on Friendster/Tagged 2 weeks before I leave for the PI. Don't send any money and be very explicit about wanting buttloads of sex and butterflying but don't put this in my profile only outline that part when I speak to the girls one-on-one. I think that sums it up, yeah?
Side thoughts. I wonder though, do you think maybe I could get away with posting on DIA or other date only sites if I set up profiles at Friendster/Tagged right now and then later set up profiles on DIA etc. Right before I leave to go to PI and then hide the profile after the 2 weeks before my trip time period has elasped. This way if my wife finds out about the profiles on the date only sites, I could feign ignorance and state that someone stole my photo from my other profiles on Friendster or Tagged. After that, I could show her proof that my accounts on those sites are valid and innocent and have been up for far longer than that random DIA profile. Also, she won't be able to throw the profile in my face because the profile will be hidden. What do you all think? I'm just brainstorming here because from what I'm hearing here it sounds like the girls on the social networking sites aren't as hot as the ones on the date-only sites.
Hopefully I can find a way to get the best of both worlds safely.
GregLondon
03-31-09, 04:27
Atamavida & Gamahucher. So just to sum things up, I should post profiles on Friendster and Tagged. Do NOT use any date only sites. Also I should only put up a profile on Friendster/Tagged 2 weeks before I leave for the PI. Don't send any money and be very explicit about wanting buttloads of sex and butterflying but don't put this in my profile only outline that part when I speak to the girls one-on-one. I think that sums it up, yeah?
Side thoughts. I wonder though, do you think maybe I could get away with posting on DIA or other date only sites if I set up profiles at Friendster/Tagged right now and then later set up profiles on DIA etc. Right before I leave to go to PI and then hide the profile after the 2 weeks before my trip time period has elasped. This way if my wife finds out about the profiles on the date only sites, I could feign ignorance and state that someone stole my photo from my other profiles on Friendster or Tagged. After that, I could show her proof that my accounts on those sites are valid and innocent and have been up for far longer than that random DIA profile. Also, she won't be able to throw the profile in my face because the profile will be hidden. What do you all think? I'm just brainstorming here because from what I'm hearing here it sounds like the girls on the social networking sites aren't as hot as the ones on the date-only sites.
Hopefully I can find a way to get the best of both worlds safely.
In your position just don't add your photo to DIA. If you have no photo in FS or Tagged you wont get much responsde and in DIA you wont get much unsolicited repsonse. But if u post a profile in DIA a max of 1 week before you go and then just send a suitable message to 100 or so girls you fancy telling them what you have in mind you will get about 25% positive reeplies (my experience) even if you are very explicit about wanting sex as son as you meet etx\c. Of course a good proportion of those will either be scamsters or cam girls but youi should also geta plenty of regualr girls. If you make such demands however i think you are going to have to give most of them some cash as well as they know therer is no chance of a marriage.
Just say your photo is being approved. All they are really worried about is that you are a real western guy.
So just to sum things up, I should post profiles on Friendster and Tagged. Do NOT use any date only sites. Also I should only put up a profile on Friendster/Tagged 2 weeks before I leave for the PI. Don't send any money and be very explicit about wanting buttloads of sex and butterflying but don't put this in my profile only outline that part when I speak to the girls one-on-one. I think that sums it up, yeah? Yep that sums it up.
Side thoughts. I wonder though, do you think maybe I could get away with posting on DIA... Putting your pic on a dating web site is relationship suicide these days IMHO.
Computers are everywhere, everybody is learning how to use them, social networking web sites are becoming a big thing now. Many eyes looking at the internet...
Sure maybe you will get away with it for awhile. On the other hand maybe it will be seen fast & land you in a divorce before you can say 'alimony'. Your choice dude..
AV
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I've had my profile up complete with pics in Friendster and Tagged for 3 days and not even one profile view yet. I'm like seriously what the hell, man? ! It's a very innocent profile with pics of my wife, family, scenery, and a few friends on there. I don't think my wife would think it's a profile to fuck hot nubiles with. I decided to go ahead and create 2 profiles on FS and tagged so just in case she inquires I can say "oh, I've had that profile up for ages, it's nothing much really. " I had to indicate that I'm in a relationship and that I'm on the site look for friends & activity partners. Of course, I wanted to put a checkmark next to relationships w/ women and dating women but I know better than that. So, is there something missing on my profile that I should list OR should I just calm down and get it time.
P.S.. I'm holding off on creating the DIA profile until right before I leave for my next trip, which is quite a couple of months away.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I've had my profile up complete with pics in Friendster and Tagged for 3 days and not even one profile view yet. I'm like seriously what the hell, man? !Patience grasshopper..
In my experience you start to get bites on 'innocent' profiles after a week or two. Even with hard core dating sites like CB or DIA I put up a profile & don't check back for a week or two at first. Then the enquiries start coming. On CB you can get a lot of Chinese & to a lesser extent Russian chicks hammering your profile. On DIA you will get all types many young ones & a few lady boys.
On Tagged you get mostly single Pinays of varying quality with a few cute ones. Friendster I found the same. On the social sites once you make friends with a few you start getting friends & friends or their friends 'shopping' your profile. My god there are so many honies out there...
Its semester break right now. The schoolies & uni girls are all out in the province visiting family or off at the beaches etc. Come June they will be all back in class & eagerly checking their CB, DIA accounts between lectures again.
Don't worry you get will bites. Just be patient. Take your time to check out some that interest you.
Typically you get a bit anxious about getting enough bites. But after a while you get so many it becomes unmanageable. Eventually I just picked a couple that I had a good 'gut' feeling about & focused on them.
If you want to accelerate your enquiries & firm 'bookings' massively open a dating site profile on say CB, FH or DIA.
Put only one sentence in that profile : Hi may name is [insert your name] I will be in [insert city] on [insert date].
WHAM! you will get slammed with 'pick me!' type enquiries ;)
They all feel they have one chance to 'catch a fish'. If they think they are first in line they can be very enthusiastic. Just remember though, some will chicken out & dick you around when the time comes, some are not honest about their looks etc
If you are married you are playing with fire but some guys get away with it...for a while.
AV
Even with hard core dating sites like CB or DIA I put up a profile & don't check back for a week or two at first. On CB you can get a lot of Chinese & to a lesser extent Russian chicks hammering your profile.What does "CB" mean?
On Tagged you get mostly single Pinays of varying quality with a few cute ones. Friendster I found the same. On the social sites once you make friends with a few you start getting friends & friends or their friends 'shopping' your profile. My god there are so many honies out there.Well, last night I got impatient. So, what I did was browse some profiles and I sent out winks to girls I thought were hot. I checked my e-mail just 5 min. Ago and as of now I have received winks from 5 girls and 2 girls "bought me" as pets or something. What does the pet thing and superpoke thing mean on tagged anyway? !
If you want to accelerate your enquiries & firm 'bookings' massively open a dating site profile on say CB, FH or DIA.
Put only one sentence in that profile: Hi may name is [insert your name] I will be in [insert city] on [insert date].
WHAM! You will get slammed with 'pick me! ' type enquiries
They all feel they have one chance to 'catch a fish'. If they think they are first in line they can be very enthusiastic. Just remember though, some will chicken out & dick you around when the time comes, some are not honest about their looks etcnice strategy, of course without a picture. It would be weird though if I do this with CB, FS, FH, and DIA with no pic and then when I get to PI I meet up with girls who recognize me from my profile that in fact does have a lot of my pics. Hehe
If you are married you are playing with fire but some guys get away with it. For a while.
AVWell I intend to get away with it, forever. As long as I cross my Ts and dot my Is.
What does "CB" mean?CB : CHERRY BLOSSOMS, FH : FILIPPINA HEART,
DIA : DATE IN ASIA, FS : FRIENDSTER (not my idea, all the flip chicks use this)
Well, last night I got impatient. So, what I did was browse some profiles and I sent out winks to girls I thought were hot. I checked my e-mail just 5 min. Ago and as of now I have received winks from 5 girls and 2 girls "bought me" as pets or something. What does the pet thing and superpoke thing mean on tagged anyway? ! On Tagged its a cutesy way of saying i dig you. Same as 'winks' etc on other sites. I did'nt look into it coz all that shit bores me.
nice strategy, of course without a picture. It would be weird though if I do this with CB, FS, FH, and DIA with no pic and then when I get to PI I meet up with girls who recognize me from my profile that in fact does have a lot of my pics. Hehe Yeah with a pic & an ETA you're gonna be mobbed.
Well I intend to get away with it, forever. As long as I cross my Ts and dot my Is.Ok, good luck & happy humping LL3..
AV
So I spent an hour or so on Tagged and MySpace, last night (North American Eastern time), sending out friends requests, whilst chatting with some early risers (Phil time) on ym.
Open up my e-mail, this afternoon, and I’ve got 31 new friends and half a dozen messages (including one offering me a threesome with her and her “hot sister”, but I already have a gf in their city). That’s in addition to the over 500 friends I already had on the two sites (not all pinays). Plus another 400 on Friendster, but I think we’ve all agreed that it’s a bit of a desert in terms of actually hooking up with the ladies.
I guess I’ll be sending out some messages, tonight. And I already have more phone numbers than days in my trip. But you can never have enough, right?
Only three more weeks…
So I spent an hour or so on Tagged and MySpace, last night (North American Eastern time), sending out friends requests, whilst chatting with some early risers (Phil time) on ym.I never though about MySpace and YM. Hmm, you think I should post there as well or just stay put with my FS and Tagged profiles?
Only three more weeks.It's weird, I wonder why there aren't more retired military hands here. For me, I can go to PI whenever I want with the free mil flights that I have. The only thing that's stopping me is I'm currently unemployed. (economy got me too) If I had a place to stay and assurance that I'd get fed, I'd be there every month banging "regular" girls everyday until my wife made wife makes me come back home. I don't know any retired military living there but I'm sure there's a lot there. You could ask me, "but why don't you go to your wife house? " well, I tried this and I thought that I would get a buttload of ass but to my surprise she made sure that all her boy relatives kept me AWAY from any chicks. I don't ever plan on visiting her family again, EVER. What makes things worse is that they live in the provinces. It's supposed to way easier there and a blast but I'd never know. Oh well.
FreebieFan
04-03-09, 01:08
IMHO the only way a married guy can minimise risk of discovery is advertise for short period & then hide the profile while following up contacts. The longer you leave a profile up the greater the risk of accidental or deliberate discovery.
Native born pinays are all distrustful, they grew up in a highly competitive environment where men cheat endemically. Maybe you're married to an older non net using westernised pinay?
Good luck to you FF!
AVHi Mate. And yes I'm familiar with 'shopping"
Actually the thing I'm most scared of, rather than being found on a website, is what hapened to me about 3 months back.
Was waiting around Market Market, for my "pick up" Was standing admiring a few cute ones and generally smiling when I get a " Hello Uncle XYZ ".
Turned around and theres two 19-21 year olds who I vaguely recognise. Wifes sisters daughters. Hadnt seen them in years. But they sure recognised me. Phew. Had that cold sweat running down my back for a while.
Blew them off. Met the pick up (whilst looking left and right furtively.)
Never seen them there since. But. Yes. We live on the edge and can be found out in a moment.
Turned around and theres two 19-21 year olds who I vaguely recognise. Wifes sisters daughters. Hadnt seen them in years. But they sure recognised me. Phew. Had that cold sweat running down my back for a while.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I would have shit my pants right there.
Blew them off. Met the pick up (whilst looking left and right furtively.)And you STILL met the pick up? ! That's pretty ballsy but if you can get away with it, more power to you, I guess. I would have taken that as a sign and got the fuck out of dodge, no questions asked.
I never though about MySpace and YM. Hmm, you think I should post there as well or just stay put with my FS and Tagged profiles?
It's weird, I wonder why there aren't more retired military hands here. For me, I can go to PI whenever I want with the free mil flights that I have. The only thing that's stopping me is I'm currently unemployed. (economy got me too) If I had a place to stay and assurance that I'd get fed, I'd be there every month banging "regular" girls everyday until my wife made wife makes me come back home. I don't know any retired military living there but I'm sure there's a lot there. You could ask me, "but why don't you go to your wife house? " well, I tried this and I thought that I would get a buttload of ass but to my surprise she made sure that all her boy relatives kept me AWAY from any chicks. I don't ever plan on visiting her family again, EVER. What makes things worse is that they live in the provinces. It's supposed to way easier there and a blast but I'd never know. Oh well.
I think it all depends on your personal situation and your personality.
I’m single so I’m not too worried about putting myself out there (but not with my real, full name, of course!) I am employed and have a limited amount of vacation in a year, so I want to maximize my vacation by having some probable hits before I leave home (with p4p as a back-up). Personally, I have no qualms about putting a pic on my profile, as I find that I get far more responses to my advances with a pic than without.
Your situation may dictate an entirely different approach.
But it comes down to your personality, too. If you’ve got really good game, just show up and start working the room! I’m somewhat shy, but well spoken. I find that I can make a better impression, in writing, than just meeting a girl in a club and working it. That way, I have a step up and have already charmed her a bit, before we actually meet.
I’ve got profiles on MySpace, Tagged, FS, FH, DIA,…
Don’t really like DIA (I want to see more than one pic or her).
FH I have had some luck with, but read her profile carefully. If the phrase “god-fearing” appears more than once, you’re chances of getting her out of her pants are slim. Most of the girls in here are looking for a husband, not a date (same could be said for DIA).
FS is a weird one. I’ve got over 400 friends there but I rarely get responses to messages I send. And since they “Facebooked” the search functionality, a couple of months ago, it’s gotten even worse. Not a totally useless site, but getting there.
I’ve tried MySpace for a couple of other countries (the DR, in particular) with very little success, but had never tried it for Phil. Decided to give it a shot for this trip, and I’m having fairly good luck getting contacts and cell numbers. Still only get responses back from probably less than half of the messages I send out, but that’s not bad. I promise to report back on the hit and miss ratio on my return.
FH and MySpace definitely win in terms of search functionality.
I’ve only had a Tagged account for about a month (after reading about it in this thread), but am up to close to 100 friends and I’m getting a surprisingly high response rate to my messages. We’ll see how it pans out once I’m on the ground, but it seems highly promising.
Hi5 is another one that I’ve had some luck with in the past but, like Friendster, they downgraded their search functionality a while back, making it very difficult to sort through the thousands of profiles.
The Friend Finder series of sites are all utterly useless, IMHO (with the possible exception of Amigos, but even that only seems to work in a limited number of countries).
In terms of YM… well, all of the above is just the first step in the process of getting her YM address, chatting with her there, getting her cell #, texting with her, calling and finally meeting and hopefully…
Two problems with YM:
1) depending on how many time zones away you are, the timing can be problematic, I’m either at work or sleeping while they're at the internet cafe;
2) Usernames! I may have her cell # saved in my cell as Cheryl Cebu, so I know who and where she is. But her YM username may be *?$bootyliciouspink$?*, so how am I supposed to remember who that is? I must learn to be more disciplined and maintain a table: Name; YM name; Location; Site met at.
All comes down to the simplest of plans: Arrive and spend a few nights in AC to drain my overstuffed testicles. Immediately on arrival load up my cell and start texting the girls in my next port of call, and continue on as such, always concentrating my texting on the next city: “I’ll be there in a couple of days, sweetie!”
I think that’s more than enough, for now!
Cebu Pacific
04-03-09, 18:33
Yep that sums it up.Putting your pic on a dating web site is relationship suicide these days IMHO.
AVYeap, used to have a boss that got found out by someone in my company. He was booted out by higher bosses. My boss was married with kids and trolling for a girlfriend in Thailand. I work for a pretty conservative company. Pretty sad considering that whoever ratted him out was probably also trolling.
Actually, now that I'm a regular visitor to the Phils and soon to be resident, I find the online stuff a waste of time. It's not hard to hook up with women or bargirls in absolutely no time at all.
GregLondon
04-03-09, 18:43
2) Usernames! I may have her cell # saved in my cell as Cheryl Cebu, so I know who and where she is. But her YM username may be *?$bootyliciouspink$?*, so how am I supposed to remember who that is? I must learn to be more disciplined and maintain a table: Name; YM name; Location; Site met at.
...
I think that’s more than enough, for now!
You ca just rename the contact eg "Cheryl 19 Cebu" in YM so that this shows up in your account rather than her real username
I use the MAc version wher what you do is Contacts Get info then type in the new name you want.
I think in the WIndows version you need to bringup the contacts option and rename it from there.
Lustforthrust
04-03-09, 21:52
Guys,
I've been sending invitations on DIA and I got scores of #s, some want to bring their cousins, some wished me luck, some very abusive, some were silent.
I got 2 strong candidates to accompany me for the duration of my visit (about 5 days). One of them went out of her way to look for suitable accomodation and she's pretty. The other one looks prettier and is game too and wants me to call her to organize stuff - I'm not calling anyone yet.
My question is how do I do them both, assuming ofcourse that this is real and will pan out.
I think I'm begining to have "oneits" (one woman man, disease) and want to resist that.
Suggestions?
Guys,
I've been sending invitations on DIA and I got scores of #s, some want to bring their cousins, some wished me luck, some very abusive, some were silent.
I got 2 strong candidates to accompany me for the duration of my visit (about 5 days). One of them went out of her way to look for suitable accomodation and she's pretty. The other one looks prettier and is game too and wants me to call her to organize stuff - I'm not calling anyone yet.
My question is how do I do them both, assuming ofcourse that this is real and will pan out.
I think I'm begining to have "oneits" (one woman man, disease) and want to resist that.
Suggestions?First, IMHO don't let a girl book your room.
Second, you can always cut them loose by saying you have to meet some friends for dinner or drinks. Then bring the other girl in.
Have you been in the PI before?
Robb
You ca just rename the contact eg "Cheryl 19 Cebu" in YM so that this shows up in your account rather than her real username
I use the MAc version wher what you do is Contacts Get info then type in the new name you want.
I think in the WIndows version you need to bringup the contacts option and rename it from there.
Thanks, Greg. I was going to send you a PM on this one, but it is good information for everyone.
You ca just rename the contact eg "Cheryl 19 Cebu" in YM so that this shows up in your account rather than her real username
I use the MAC version where what you do is Contacts Get info then type in the new name you want.
I think in the WIndows version you need to bringup the contacts option and rename it from there.
Greg i have found the task of keeping track of 'who is who' quickly becomes very time consuming.
Im a Mac user & did what you said.
I found girls use a name in the dating website 'cheryl2' when u chat them on the site they say there name is joni can u meet me on ym? My ym is mary5. You ask to email them & they say its jane6@gmail. You get their cell number & txt them but they reply from another number without idenifying themselves or they inform you that their cp needs repair so they borrow their brothers cp (cue violin music). So you now have at least 4 different monikers and possibly 2 phone numbers for each girl.
Cell phone numbers : How many times have you guys had a list of chicks to txt, arrived in country sent a txt to #1 choice on your list but received several txt's from an unknown #'s with no identifying info "hi want me 2 go der na?" Etc.
So you get in a long series of txt's back & forth trying to get them reveal who they are without making it obvious. You notice your P500 load that looked so generous is quickly burning up... Its not uncommon to nail down girl (A) location to say Pasig in Manila & girl (B) to say, quezon city manila before arrival. Then you get the vague txt's from unknown #'s. You try to ID the txt'er subtly by txt'ing them 'is it hot in pasig?' you get a long series of vague replies and eventually find that girl (A) was never in Pasig in the first place (long drawn out story about why she told you this) then find girl (B) is somewhere else (another complicated story).
When you eventually sort out who is who in the texts you try to line them up for say a 10am meet for girl (A) & 4pm for girl (B). But girl (A) is running late with several delay's & girl (B) suddenly has to change her plans & come earlier... Lots of txt's flying back & forth. Its lunch time by now.. In the middle of all this you get a txt from another unknown # 'i out of load i barrow my sis cp i come na'. So you are back into a long series of txt's with vague answers trying to establish who "I" is. Finally you nail one of them down to a place & time on that day and then she does not show after all.. Mutiply this by say 5 or 10 girls & you see how difficult it can be.
Even when you are upfront with them about wanting to meet other women they can really dick you around & waste a lot of your time. It seems common for pinays to 'borrow' cousins/sisters email address's, YM's & cell phones.
Another time waster is the habit of putting their province home as their location in their profiles when they are actually somewhere else. You do a trawl through say CB looking for hot looking girls in say Cebu because thats where you are going next. You launch a chat session to try to verify location & get their YM so u can see them on cam to verify their looks. You get a long series of vague answers in chat eventually learning that she is not studying nursing in cebu but is in fact living at her grandmothers house in zamboanga 'because i have no money na' - cue the violin music... Rinse & repeat over & over..
At one stage I thought of putting together a spreadsheet or database with enough fields to cross reference all the names & numbers. Then I realised it was all becoming too much like work! Im decided i was supposed to be having fun and to hell with it.
Im not saying you cant get some very nice scores through the web sites but it can quickly eat up your time. Once you have visited here you realise how absurdly easy it is to pull chicks and you drop the web sites mostly. Its fun to poke my nose in occasionally with a pleasant results sometimes.
AV
Actually the thing I'm most scared of, rather than being found on a website, is what hapened to me about 3 months back.
Was waiting around Market Market, for my "pick up" Was standing admiring a few cute ones and generally smiling when I get a " Hello Uncle XYZ ".
Turned around and theres two 19-21 year olds who I vaguely recognise. Wifes sisters daughters. Hadnt seen them in years. But they sure recognised me. Phew. Had that cold sweat running down my back for a while.Jesus! I would have turned to stone FF! :) You just KNOW that your siting will be reported back & you better have a good excuse why you were there hehehe.
This is a reason why I avoid liasons outside of all but the biggest cities in PI, because of the risk of bumping into people. Even in manila, a huge conurbation of miliions of people this can happen especially if you frequent areas where relatives may live.
AV
Greg i have found the task of keeping track of 'who is who' quickly becomes very time consuming.
So you get in a long series of txt's back & forth trying to get them reveal who they are without making it obvious. You notice your P500 load that looked so generous is quickly burning up... Its not uncommon to nail down girl (A) location to say Pasig in Manila & girl (B) to say, quezon city manila before arrival. Then you get the vague txt's from unknown #'s. You try to ID the txt'er subtly by txt'ing them 'is it hot in pasig?' you get a long series of vague replies and eventually find that girl (A) was never in Pasig in the first place (long drawn out story about why she told you this) then find girl (B) is somewhere else (another complicated story).
At one stage I thought of putting together a spreadsheet or database with enough fields to cross reference all the names & numbers. Then I realised it was all becoming too much like work! Im decided i was supposed to be having fun and to hell with it.
Im not saying you cant get some very nice scores through the web sites but it can quickly eat up your time. Once you have visited here you realise how absurdly easy it is to pull chicks and you drop the web sites mostly. Its fun to poke my nose in occasionally with a pleasant results sometimes.
AV
Love your post. I don't disagree with a word you said. And I know you have more experience in Phil than I.
But don't discourage us short time visitors, too much. For all of the time-wasting YM and texting there is to be done, there are still a few diamonds to be found, through this method. Hit and miss, for sure, but I think it's better than showing up with nothing on board.
Take care, man! Your input is always appreciated.
GregLondon
04-04-09, 08:45
Guys,
I've been sending invitations on DIA and I got scores of #s, some want to bring their cousins, some wished me luck, some very abusive, some were silent.
I got 2 strong candidates to accompany me for the duration of my visit (about 5 days). One of them went out of her way to look for suitable accomodation and she's pretty. The other one looks prettier and is game too and wants me to call her to organize stuff - I'm not calling anyone yet.
My question is how do I do them both, assuming ofcourse that this is real and will pan out.
I think I'm begining to have "oneits" (one woman man, disease) and want to resist that.
Suggestions?
There are so many girl in Cebu who are up for it it would be a shame to keep to just one unless you are the very romantic type.
Many Philippinas will prefer to set you up with a friend or cousin for the night or have a threesome rather than risk you dumping her for another one. I would suggest that the way to deal with it is to tel them that you have a very strong sexual appetite and really want to try more than one girl and has she had a threesome before. if the answer is positive then see if she can come up with a suitable girl otherwise say you'll find one (she'll much prefer to get a friend/cousin involved.)
As an illustration I was chating with a girl on DIA yesterday who said that she had just droped her bf off at the airport having spent a month with him. I was asking her to join me and my girl for a threesome she said she was a little tired that day. She said she had no problem though. Infact during her vf's stay she lined up a 5 some with 3 of her freinds with him and was vey proud that he was able to satisfy them all.
Lustforthrust
04-04-09, 09:23
First, IMHO don't let a girl book your room.
Second, you can always cut them loose by saying you have to meet some friends for dinner or drinks. Then bring the other girl in.
Have you been in the PI before?
Robb
I was in the Philippines in November. Had just one DIA chic - had a lot of trouble cutting her loose; weeping, crying and other womanly stuff that is unfairly used against men.
I paid $310/night for my suite at the Hyatt - I don't think any Filipina could do that booking and I stayed there 5 nights. Had a great time with hookers from LA cafe; never once went into that gas chamber, grabbed A listers before they went in to smell like shit.
The most I paid was $30, usually $20, all short-term.
I have changed my approach at DIA, an approach that seems to be far more successful than in November. I do not post a picture there, so I start with kind of a disadvantage.
GregLondon
04-04-09, 12:19
Greg i have found the task of keeping track of 'who is who' quickly becomes very time consuming.
Im a Mac user & did what you said.
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Im not saying you cant get some very nice scores through the web sites but it can quickly eat up your time. Once you have visited here you realise how absurdly easy it is to pull chicks and you drop the web sites mostly. Its fun to poke my nose in occasionally with a pleasant results sometimes.
AV
I think you are absolutely right that it becomes very confusing after a while. What I do is (1) when i add the girls no to my cell i use as consistent format eg First name age city then code for various attributes eg v for virgin, u for it up fro it, h for hot or whatever.
eg Cathy 19 Cebu H U
In my YM I change there names according to this format as son as possible.
I also set up a database in Filemaker Pro with fields for their various details plus my assessments. It's also good as you can paste pics in etc. I'm using a mac and Filemaker Pro is probablythe only decent database program for Macs. Windows users also have Access which comes with the more advanced types of MS Office.
If you are just planning a one off 5 day trip it would be a waste of effort to set up such a database, but if you do alot of this type of thing, its a very useful tool. The main pain is setting the thing up initially. Once you have your template to your liking its then easy. You probably also have to be reasonably computer literate to set up a database.
Both Filemaker Pro and Access are expensive paid for programs but are widely available fpor download via the Pirate Bay torrent portal. If you are not used to bit torrent just download a free bit torrent client such as utorrent for Windows or Transmission for Mac search fro the right torrent then it should download quite quickly depending on the popularity of the file. mac users should also download the latest monthly update of serialbox from Pirate bay (a database of serial numbers for mac programs), in many cases they wil have seria numbers fro the software you are interested in and you just download the trial version from the vendor site and add the serial.
Lustforthrust
04-04-09, 13:23
When you eventually sort out who is who in the texts you try to line them up for say a 10am meet for girl (A) & 4pm for girl (B). But girl (A) is running late with several delay's & girl (B) suddenly has to change her plans & come earlier... Lots of txt's flying back & forth. Its lunch time by now.. In the middle of all this you get a txt from another unknown # 'i out of load i barrow my sis cp i come na'. So you are back into a long series of txt's with vague answers trying to establish who "I" is. Finally you nail one of them down to a place & time on that day and then she does not show after all.. Mutiply this by say 5 or 10 girls & you see how difficult it can be.
ROTFLMAO
I had this crap in Manila. I simply pulled out my SIN card (have a fully-loaded SMART/BUDDY clip) and enjoyed the peace & quiet. So much easier with the P4P at LA Cafe.
Puerto La Cruz
04-04-09, 14:14
ROTFLMAO
I had this crap in Manila. I simply pulled out my SIN card (have a fully-loaded SMART/BUDDY clip) and enjoyed the peace & quiet. So much easier with the P4P at LA Cafe.
Precisely. I have never carried a phone with me in the Phils. The first couple days there, I just get P4P at LA Cafe or elsewhere and then I bring a girl along to wherever else I'm going there. Hell, I'm on vacation and don't want to be bothered with that.
Just reading through the posts, it looks like some are having the same problem that I had of keeping track of who/where/phone etc.
I mostly use Cherry Blossoms, which has a decent search engine, and I have a Match setup also. So I get daily emails with lists of girls who meet my "Match" specifications.
I have set up a photo database, with girls files numbered from 1 to whatever. I also have a spreadsheet with name, identifier, age, location, height/weight code, phone, email etc. The phone and email are just Y or N for if I have her number and email address.
And I have a Word document space for copies of their profile data.
When I find an interesting target, I open a new folder for her photo(s) with the next folder number, and copy her photos. This photo folder number is then her unique ID.
I copy her profile data into the Word document, listed alphabetically, with her heading being her name, height/weight code and unique identifier. And other important info she subsequently sends me I add below the profile.
I enter her info into the spreadsheet, listed by name, alphabetically.
This is a bit time consuming, but if I am planning to go to cebu, I can search for girls in Cebu for whom I have phone and email. I text first, about 3 weeks before I go there, then phone, using Skype, and some emails. may chat on YM, but I view YM as being very inefficient..
This generally works, certainly in setting up the contacts. But whether she shows or not is another matter, and whether she jumps into the pit with me depends on the usual variables. But the system means that I can set up a meeting, with one or two levels of backup. So it is rare that I do not have company for the night.
It sounds like a lot of work, but I am back and forth to the Phils fairly regularly, and stay for several weeks at a time. And I very much prefer local girls to P4P.
G
GregLondon
04-05-09, 20:07
I can't remember anyone mentioning person.com as a way of getting Filipina contacts. I met a guy in the hotel I'm in Angeles now who said it was the main thing he used and had had good success.
It does seem to have alot of functionality and is free to search and contact, with plenty of Filipinas . They can load up to 100 pics, lots of cam intregration.
It looks fun.
This guy had lined up several hot dates in various parts of the Phils. However
didn't have anyone in Angeles. Last night my gf had a text from her freeind who said she had seen us walking around town and wondered if she could come for a threesome as she needed some cash for the rent. I said fine for P500 and she turned out to be a little hottie with a lovely body and nice tits. I told him my gf would text her for him and 10mins later she was there at the poolside complete with very sexy swimming costume. They went off to his room and when we met up for dinner a few hours later he said he had done her 4 times and was now scrapping his plan to meet a 19 year old virgin in Cebu.
The moral of this tale, is that the dating sites can be time consuming but fun but in te Phis there are so many girls that it is easy enough to rely on serrendipity.
I was thinking about a discussion here the other day about the risks faced by married/LTR guys placing their face on dating & social web sites.
Apart from the obvious of just googling, you guys better hope your spouses/GF's dont see this!
http://namechk.com/
Checks 80 of these websites all at once GULP!
AV
FreebieFan
04-09-09, 09:55
I was thinking about a discussion here the other day about the risks faced by married/LTR guys placing their face on dating & social web sites.
Apart from the obvious of just googling, you guys better hope your spouses/GF's dont see this!
http://namechk.com/
Checks 80 of these websites all at once GULP!
AVYes. Theres a few of these type sites. Which shows why some of us use fake names all over the place.
I was thinking about a discussion here the other day about the risks faced by married/LTR guys placing their face on dating & social web sites.
Apart from the obvious of just googling, you guys better hope your spouses/GF's dont see this!
http://namechk.com/
Checks 80 of these websites all at once GULP!
AV
Date In Asia... Cherry Blossoms.... Filipina Hearts ........ Friensdster... are all still safe. Relax guys!
Mongering1
04-20-09, 03:53
Just from the pics I'd guess she was in a hotel room with a porigner. The furniture and bottles of water...
I want to see if anyone knows her or has spent any time with this girl in the past. I heard from a third party that she has had a few foreign BF's which she denies, so I wanted to make sure she was not a semi-pro paying for her tuition meeting men around town before I decide to get serious with her. She lives in Cebu and I met her on a dating website that's why I am adding this report to the chat rooms section.
If anyone knows her or has spent time with her I would be interested in the details about where and when you met her to possibly save me some headaches down the road. Send me a PM with any info.
Stroker Ace88
04-20-09, 04:20
Just from the pics I'd guess she was in a hotel room with a porigner. The furniture and bottles of water...
Umm, Yes I am the "porigner" she was with and yes I took these pics in my hotel room.
I heard from a third party that she has had a few foreign BF's RED FLAG #1 : Cebu is a small place compared to Manila. People cant hide their antics there.
...paying for her tuition... RED FLAG #2 : Sigh... college girls are desperate to have a sponsor.
I met her on a dating website RED FLAG #3 : Best place for a girl on the make to find a victim, er, BF.
I dont mean _any_ disrespect. Maybe yours is an innocent little lilly... but i have to tell ya, I have extensive experience mixing in the circles inhabited by college girls, and many MANY of them have 'poriner' BF's. If the money dries up with one they _do_ move on to another, trust me I know!
Their college curriculums have lofty sounding names but they have very low standards to meet & frequently lecturers dont turn up. As long as the girls meet the minimum requirements by putting in an appearance student life goes on. Their educational qualifications are practically worthless outside of PI.
They get on CB, DIA etc display themselves, chat up & hook overseas guys all the time. In any class of students many have 'poriner' BF's.
You must understand as a student they are insulated from the harsh realities of working life in the PI's. They lead a charmed life hanging around campus doing their nails & make up, taking self portraits with the expensive cell phone (paid for by BF) and getting the cell #'s of horny little pinoy classmates. Despite her claims of fidelity she will be dating (& screwing) many pinoy's and a few 'poriners' in your abscence. Going to parties, going on 'school field trips' (paid for by the 'poriner' BF) & meeting 'poriners' in plush hotels is MUCH more interesting than studying or standing on your feet 72 hours a week in a job.
When they are not doing that they are at the nearby Internet cafe updating their many dating site profiles & checking all their email accounts. They do have dozens of 'poriner' yahoo chat contacts.
If you want to screw with their heads, give them a laptop with remote access pre-installed & then marvel at their two faced antics.
I hate to sound so cynical but you must understand, Asian women never do things without a purpose. Her agenda is to get someone ANYONE to keep her in her cozy college life. If your agenda is to have fun & maybe keep her on as a 'friend with benefits' thats cool but don't make the mistake of losing your heart to her coz you will live to regret it.
AV
One of my GF's has many cousins, most of whom have already 'poriner' BF's, the rest are trying.
One of them, a nursing student who presents as intelligent, warm, friendly & straight, I have got to know. Her nursing studies have been interrupted by periods of 'work' to help get money to return to college. At first she used to tell me she worked in a 'resto bar' but after a while she revealed that she worked in a 'bar'. Actually it came about because she was always warning me no to cheat on her cousin by going to bars. When asked how she would know she let the cat out of the bag.
For the last 12 months she has been back in college courtesy of her 64 year old japanese 'BF' who visits manila every few months for his conjugal rights.
Recently she was having a little 'Dr Phil' session with me about how she had found out that Nippon boy had several other pinay's whom he visited when he was in Manila.
She told me she was 'getting in love with him'. When i commiserated with her & asked it why she still continued to see him, she came back with 'its ok, its just business'.
Pinay's are amazingly adaptable...
AV
FreebieFan
04-20-09, 07:24
RED FLAG #1 : Cebu is a small place compared to Manila. People cant hide their antics there.
RED FLAG #2 : Sigh... college girls are desperate to have a sponsor.
RED FLAG #3 : Best place for a girl on the make to find a victim, er, BF.
I dont mean _any_ disrespect. Maybe yours is an innocent little lilly... but i have to tell ya, I have extensive experience mixing in the circles inhabited by college girls, and many MANY of them have 'poriner' BF's. If the money dries up with one they _do_ move on to another, trust me I know!
Their college curriculums have lofty sounding names but they have very low standards to meet & frequently lecturers dont turn up. As long as the girls meet the minimum requirements by putting in an appearance student life goes on. Their educational qualifications are practically worthless outside of PI.
They get on CB, DIA etc display themselves, chat up & hook overseas guys all the time. In any class of students many have 'poriner' BF's.
You must understand as a student they are insulated from the harsh realities of working life in the PI's. They lead a charmed life hanging around campus doing their nails & make up, taking self portraits with the expensive cell phone (paid for by BF) and getting the cell #'s of horny little pinoy classmates. Despite her claims of fidelity she will be dating (& screwing) many pinoy's and a few 'poriners' in your abscence. Going to parties, going on 'school field trips' (paid for by the 'poriner' BF) & meeting 'poriners' in plush hotels is MUCH more interesting than studying or standing on your feet 72 hours a week in a job.
When they are not doing that they are at the nearby Internet cafe updating their many dating site profiles & checking all their email accounts. They do have dozens of 'poriner' yahoo chat contacts.
If you want to screw with their heads, give them a laptop with remote access pre-installed & then marvel at their two faced antics.
I hate to sound so cynical but you must understand, Asian women never do things without a purpose. Her agenda is to get someone ANYONE to keep her in her cozy college life. If your agenda is to have fun & maybe keep her on as a 'friend with benefits' thats cool but don't make the mistake of losing your heart to her coz you will live to regret it.
AVAmavida,
I don't always agree with your writings, but in this instance, you got it 100% exactly right. !
The seriously smart don't go to schools in Phils. They are in US or Australia. The rest are left in schools in Phils, and unless its UP or La Salle or something significant and prestigious, the college will indeed not do much for their education. However it means they are slightly smarter than having to become service crew somewhere. Theat means they know how to best use their time.
And also means their English will be such that they can talk. And chat. And voila. They find a foreign BF or two or three. Well written Amavida!
Cunning Stunt
04-20-09, 08:43
I hate to sound so cynical but you must understand, Asian women never do things without a purpose. Her agenda is to get someone ANYONE to keep her in her cozy college life. If your agenda is to have fun & maybe keep her on as a 'friend with benefits' thats cool but don't make the mistake of losing your heart to her coz you will live to regret it.
AV
Wow, AV, you must have been really screwed over by one;). You sure make them out to be manipulative, scheming bitches which I'm sure a fair few of them are but I wouldn't go so far to say all or even most. That would be too much of a stereotypical generalization.
Whatever the case, I don't suppose this is what Stroker wanted to hear. If I was him I would invent a new chat site/ym identity and approach the girl to see what response he received to his advances. You would soon discover if she is willing to play around.
Stroker Ace88
04-20-09, 09:19
RED FLAG #1 : Cebu is a small place compared to Manila. People cant hide their antics there.
RED FLAG #2 : Sigh... college girls are desperate to have a sponsor.
RED FLAG #3 : Best place for a girl on the make to find a victim, er, BF.
I dont mean _any_ disrespect. Maybe yours is an innocent little lilly... but i have to tell ya, I have extensive experience mixing in the circles inhabited by college girls, and many MANY of them have 'poriner' BF's. If the money dries up with one they _do_ move on to another, trust me I know!
Their college curriculums have lofty sounding names but they have very low standards to meet & frequently lecturers dont turn up. As long as the girls meet the minimum requirements by putting in an appearance student life goes on. Their educational qualifications are practically worthless outside of PI.
They get on CB, DIA etc display themselves, chat up & hook overseas guys all the time. In any class of students many have 'poriner' BF's.
You must understand as a student they are insulated from the harsh realities of working life in the PI's. They lead a charmed life hanging around campus doing their nails & make up, taking self portraits with the expensive cell phone (paid for by BF) and getting the cell #'s of horny little pinoy classmates. Despite her claims of fidelity she will be dating (& screwing) many pinoy's and a few 'poriners' in your abscence. Going to parties, going on 'school field trips' (paid for by the 'poriner' BF) & meeting 'poriners' in plush hotels is MUCH more interesting than studying or standing on your feet 72 hours a week in a job.
When they are not doing that they are at the nearby Internet cafe updating their many dating site profiles & checking all their email accounts. They do have dozens of 'poriner' yahoo chat contacts.
I hate to sound so cynical but you must understand, Asian women never do things without a purpose. Her agenda is to get someone ANYONE to keep her in her cozy college life. If your agenda is to have fun & maybe keep her on as a 'friend with benefits' thats cool but don't make the mistake of losing your heart to her coz you will live to regret it.
AV
Avavida,
This girl has never ever asked me for a dime, and she often pays for things when I go out with her. I once even offered to pay for ferry tickets for her and her family back to her Province when her Grandfather passed away (I saw the pics so I know it was real) and she declined. Sure I bought her some shoes or paid for meals, taxis or movie tickets, but she has never even hinted she would like me to buy her something it was always something I suggested.
I am 97% sure her family pays for her classes, so I am not worried about a sponsor. It's possible just not likely. A local BF is much more likely. She does have some other ym chatmates from before I met her and she has tried really hard to make me happy by giving me her ym password and by deleting contacts. Sure she could just create another YM ID, but she knows I check on her comp every time I come see her. If a girl is intent on contacting someone then she can find a way. I accept that she has had other online relationships before I met her and I am ok with that, but if she is in the p4p area im not ok with that. Of course she would never admit it, that's why the pics have been posted.
I know she has had foreign BF's online in the past, she admists that and the reports of her being with foreign men are from another online contact (FH) that I know in Cebu and she wants to date me. I took her reports with a grain of salt because she wants my girl out of the picture, so that's why I posted her pics online. If she is indeed on the market and in play then someone somewhere on ISG has seen her around Cebu at a bar, disco or mall. If no one has come forward with evidence I will take her pics off ISG and consider her non-p4p unless new evidence comes to light.
Avavida,
I am 97% sure her family pays for her classes, so I am not worried about a sponsor. It's possible just not likely. A local BF is much more likely. She does have some other ym chatmates from before I met her and she has tried really hard to make me happy by giving me her ym password and by deleting contacts. Sure she could just create another YM ID, but she knows I check on her comp every time I come see her. If a girl is intent on contacting someone then she can find a way. I accept that she has had other online relationships before I met her and I am ok with that, but if she is in the p4p area im not ok with that. Of course she would never admit it, that's why the pics have been posted.
.I would test her using a different picture and profile. If you are concerned about p4p, you can have the new guy "hint"at play for play. for example, suggest she will get a new cell phone if she stays the weekend with him.
I think some of her past BF's are sending her a little cash now and then. How is her family paying for her classes? an overseas family member?
Avavida, I am 97% sure her family pays for her classes, so I am not worried about a sponsor. It's possible just not likely. A local BF is much more likely.Pinays are amazingly free & easy in their attitudes. Their definition of morality is very fuzzy compared to us westerners. Based on what i have seen, I would say its highly likely foreigner BF's are doing the paying while Pinoy BF's are doing the playing.
She does have some other ym chat mates from before I met herShe's been around the block several times & she's got mileage bro. Face it dude.
she has tried really hard to make me happy by giving me her ym password and by deleting contacts. Sure she could just create another YM ID, but she knows I check on her comp every time I come see her. If a girl is intent on contacting someone then she can find a way.You know in your heart its dead easy for her to have other YM identities that you don't know about but you want to believe she's not cheating you... 'kaaayyy...
The bottom line is you can never know unless you give her a laptop connected to the internet with remote access for you to spy on her &/or as GH & BB have suggested test her fidelity by setting up fake personas of your own to approach her through her dating web site profiles.
Caveat, she will be on her guard because you made a big deal out of it to her already. It is much wiser to play their game ie. always play your cards close to your chest, feign trust, but check up behind their back's. You will be amazed...
Here's a question, when you two became an item did she immediately close all her dating site accounts? Did she get rid of her old YM & set up a non public one just for you & her in private? Or is she still business as usual on her DIA? Hard questions you must answer to your self honestly dude.
Based on my experience, if she kept her accounts it's 99.9% certain she is hedging her bets...
I accept that she has had other online relationships before I met her and I am ok with that, but if she is in the p4p area im not ok with that.The line between P4P & non P4P is very blurry in PI. You are here on a sex tourist message board presumably because you have met women in PI & exchanged gifts/food/$ for sex. You already know she has exchanged her her favours for gifts/food/$ to other men from the internet. Ask yourself 'what makes me so different?'.
I know she has had foreign BF's online in the past, she admists that and the reports of her being with foreign men are from another online contact (FH)See my comment above.
If she is indeed on the market and in play then someone somewhere on ISG has seen her around Cebu at a bar, disco or mall.Not necessarily. If no one ID's her on ISG it means nothing, there are thousands upon thousands of Pinays on the net daily meeting foreigners.
She's been around the block several times & she's got mileage bro.
If you want a LTR find a fresh one. These high mileage chicks are nothing but trouble.
I have meant no disrespect Stroker. Just tryin' to pass on the wisdom of experience to a fellow traveller. I wish you and your lady love all the best...
AV
Wow, AV, you must have been really screwed over by one;). You sure make them out to be manipulative, scheming bitches which I'm sure a fair few of them are but I wouldn't go so far to say all or even most. That would be too much of a stereotypical generalization.I think unless people have lived here & got a feel for the place its very easy to misinterpret comments from battle scarred mongers.
Im not a misogynist. I love women. I love Asian women. I love Pinay women. I have some great GF's. I just never let myself forget that they are NOT like western chicks in thinking & attitude.
Guy's must understand that Pinays are NOT like western women. They are asian so culturally they tend to be inscrutable. The misinformed call this two faced.
Most have grown up in a very harsh competitive environment. While her westerner sister was whining about a broken promise to go to Mac Donalds by her parents she was wondering if she was going to bed hungry again that night. They appear sweet & innocent on the outside but they are mentally tough & resourceful. The misinformed call this manipulative & scheming.
You know GH i personally find the best way to cope with this cultural divide is to try think like an Asian/Pinoy.
Whatever the case, I don't suppose this is what Stroker wanted to hear.I know GH, this is a case of 'tough love'. Sometimes you have to confront people to get them to stop thinking with their penile brain.
If I was him I would invent a new chat site/ym identity and approach the girl to see what response he received to his advances. You would soon discover if she is willing to play around.Thats very good advice GH.
AV
Azmodeus Fl
04-22-09, 02:09
Has anyone had any luck with camfrog girls?
So far I have been hit up for money for bills and for camshows.
Cunning Stunt
04-22-09, 03:17
I know GH, this is a case of 'tough love'. Sometimes you have to confront people to get them to stop thinking with their penile brain.
OK AV, we both know that you are being a realist and only telling it as it really is. But fantasy is the 'name of the game' for the majority of the punters who head out to the magical east and the romantically inclined are lost before they hit Philippine soil. I am always amazed, reading the various forums (not just The Philippines) at the continuing and delightful naivete of many guys who seem to view themselves as some sort of horny knight in shining armour come to rescue a little brown and innocent maiden in distress. Its a pipe dream.
In truth, all these girls on dating/chat sites etc fully know who their target audience are and will ruthlessly exploit any dishonest ruse and lie through their teeth to get what they want which is usually a ticket out. But who can blame them?
It amuses me when you said you tried to think like them:D. Watch out for that, mate, it is the road to perdition. Not only will you get twisted blood and end up with your head up your own arse trying to out think them, but they are so much better at it (having had years more to practice) and will run rings around you. Best to go with the flow but always bear in mind the maxim 'you know when they are lying because their lips are moving'!
Now I am really sounding like a cynical 'battle scarred monger';).
I think unless people have lived here & got a feel for the place its very easy to misinterpret comments from battle scarred mongers.
Im not a misogynist. I love women. I love Asian women. I love Pinay women. I have some great GF's. I just never let myself forget that they are NOT like western chicks in thinking & attitude.
Guy's must understand that Pinays are NOT like western women. They are asian so culturally they tend to be inscrutable. The misinformed call this two faced.
Most have grown up in a very harsh competitive environment. While her westerner sister was whining about a broken promise to go to Mac Donalds by her parents she was wondering if she was going to bed hungry again that night. They appear sweet & innocent on the outside but they are mentally tough & resourceful. The misinformed call this manipulative & scheming.
You know GH i personally find the best way to cope with this cultural divide is to try think like an Asian/Pinoy.
I know GH, this is a case of 'tough love'. Sometimes you have to confront people to get them to stop thinking with their penile brain.
AV
AV no need to back off your words. As me you have simply emerged from the “GFE” smoke.
If no one has come forward with evidence I will take her pics off ISG and consider her non-p4p unless new evidence comes to light.
Looks like you found a keeper so I would delete her pics (that is if you can). Having had extensive experiences with non and semi-pro Cebuanas, they are a different breed then your typical Pinay from the north. Most are conservative, religious and family oriented, happy with their situations and in no way desperate.
Cunning Stunt
04-27-09, 03:24
This fine lady on Tagged, supposedly living in Manila, wants to be my friend.
Yeeeeessss...a result! Fill my boots with crinkly granny. Hope she takes her teeth out before giving head:D.
GoodEnough
04-27-09, 23:48
AV has posted some of the best advice/insights that I've yet seen here. It's easy to get beguiled by the ostensible charm, the great sex, the eternal smiles and the frequent expressions of "love," and it's equally easy to immerse yourself in the Pygmalion fantasy of rescue and transformation. I think in literary criticism it's called the willing suspension of disbelief. The harsh fact is though that in many--dare I say most--cases, it really is fantasy and the cold reality it that many of these girls are as hard as steel at the core; they do what they need to do in order to survive and, in many cases, provide for the survival of their families. I'm not contending that this is always true, because it certainly isn't, but it pays always to be extraordinarily cautious.
Being cautious means accepting some simple, basic truths:
1. Avoid thinking you understand the culture and the social dynamics because you do not and you never will. It's easy to get duped into thinking you understand the girl, her situation, her feelings and her motives; easy because there's a patina of Western culture in the Philippines, and many people assume that because people speak English and because the Americans were here as colonizers for 50 years or so, the country is "Westernized." The veneer of westernization however is quite thin. This is a tribal culture or cultures, with unique values, belief systems and mores; you are not part of it; you never will be part of it; you will never understand it completely.
2. Do not assume that you are being told the truth, because in most cases you aren't, at least not in the way that Westerners look at the truth. There's no hesitation, and no sense of shame in lying here is the lie causes the liar to avoid unpleasantness, save face, or avoid putting herself in a corner. Reality is an invention and if you do not keep constantly in your mind that you are not hearing stories that incorporate all of the relevant facts, you could be in trouble because you will act on assumptions that are not valid.
3. Remember that, most likely, her first obligation is to her extended family and not to you. You will, in most cases, never understand the "utang na loob;" the enormous, neverending obligation she owes her family, and part of her relationship with you is a way of paying forward that obligation.
You can have a great time here, and you can indulge yourself in your wildest fantasies, so long as you remember that most of the time they're fantasies and nothing more. This is not your culture and it's essential to keep that always at the forefront of both of your brains.
GE
FreebieFan
04-28-09, 00:35
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]AV has posted some of the best advice/insights that I've yet seen here. of "love," . I think in literary criticism it's called the willing suspension of disbelief.
1. Avoid thinking you understand the culture and the social dynamics because you do not and you never will. It's easy to get duped into thinking you understand the girl, her situation, her feelings and her motives; easy because there's a patina of Western culture in the Philippines, and many people assume that because people speak English and because the Americans were here as colonizers for 50 years or so, the country is "Westernized."
When I worked in Makati, I employed a few expats and my message on Day One to them was always " this isnt Europe, this isnt the US.". They may talk English and may look you in the eye, but they arent the same as you.
A few got it, but I had to re-patriate quite a few who never understood that they arent Western depsite some outward appearances to the contrary.
In Vietnam, in Indonesia, in China you know what you are dealing with. Many however, get confused in Philippines.
This fine lady on Tagged, supposedly living in Manila, wants to be my friend.
Yeeeeessss...a result! Fill my boots with crinkly granny. Hope she takes her teeth out before giving head:D.
Now you know how your young lovelies and her friends look at you. Not right to re-post that lady's photo out of ridicule.
Cunning Stunt
04-28-09, 02:57
Now you know how your young lovelies and her friends look at you. Not right to re-post that lady's photo out of ridicule.
You are maybe right but I do still do have my own teeth or not qute as many wrinkles (or am a Granny as far as I know):D. I'm sure you don't think I would be so callous or that such an sweet old lady would seek romance on Philippine Tagged? She is obviously not a Pinay and the picture is a cover for a far younger (late 30's) lady. Do a search on tagged for Granny Meg (you have to become her friend to see her real photo's).
Never take at face value, anything you read on the internet, especially from an established [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-taker!
FreebieFan
04-28-09, 08:26
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2. Do not assume that you are being told the truth, because in most cases you aren't, at least not in the way that Westerners look at the truth. There's no hesitation, and no sense of shame in lying here is the lie causes the liar to avoid unpleasantness, save face, or avoid putting herself in a corner.
GEA Filipina I know here where I work, who I used to bonk contacted me today. She is now married, and as her purse is reasonably empty, asked if I wanted to taste her again. I said. " what about your vow to stay faithful". She replied. I would be paying her to bonk her now so it didn't count.
Amazing how these loveies can twist the words to suit their own version of truth.
A Filipina I know here where I work, who I used to bonk contacted me today. She is now married, and as her purse is reasonably empty, asked if I wanted to taste her again. I said. "what about your vow to stay faithful". She replied. I would be paying her to bonk her now so it didn't count.
Amazing how these loveies can twist the words to suit their own version of truth.Yeah FF, they are breathtakingly mercenary but to be fair its not only flips who are like that. Its just, as GE and others have said, because they speak english & have a thin veneer of westernisation we are more easily fooled.
AV
Big Johnson2
05-02-09, 15:29
AV has posted some of the best advice/insights that I've yet seen here. It's easy to get beguiled by the ostensible charm, the great sex, the eternal smiles and the frequent expressions of "love," and it's equally easy to immerse yourself in the Pygmalion fantasy of rescue and transformation. I think in literary criticism it's called the willing suspension of disbelief. The harsh fact is though that in many--dare I say most--cases, it really is fantasy and the cold reality it that many of these girls are as hard as steel at the core; they do what they need to do in order to survive and, in many cases, provide for the survival of their families. I'm not contending that this is always true, because it certainly isn't, but it pays always to be extraordinarily cautious.
Being cautious means accepting some simple, basic truths:
1. Avoid thinking you understand the culture and the social dynamics because you do not and you never will. It's easy to get duped into thinking you understand the girl, her situation, her feelings and her motives; easy because there's a patina of Western culture in the Philippines, and many people assume that because people speak English and because the Americans were here as colonizers for 50 years or so, the country is "Westernized." The veneer of westernization however is quite thin. This is a tribal culture or cultures, with unique values, belief systems and mores; you are not part of it; you never will be part of it; you will never understand it completely.
2. Do not assume that you are being told the truth, because in most cases you aren't, at least not in the way that Westerners look at the truth. There's no hesitation, and no sense of shame in lying here is the lie causes the liar to avoid unpleasantness, save face, or avoid putting herself in a corner. Reality is an invention and if you do not keep constantly in your mind that you are not hearing stories that incorporate all of the relevant facts, you could be in trouble because you will act on assumptions that are not valid.
3. Remember that, most likely, her first obligation is to her extended family and not to you. You will, in most cases, never understand the "utang na loob;" the enormous, neverending obligation she owes her family, and part of her relationship with you is a way of paying forward that obligation.
You can have a great time here, and you can indulge yourself in your wildest fantasies, so long as you remember that most of the time they're fantasies and nothing more. This is not your culture and it's essential to keep that always at the forefront of both of your brains.
GE
You are right 100% that they are different that Westerners. Lying is a way of life, to save face or whatever. I find along with the lying is that they can justify anything they do or others do, especially if it against a Westerner. They believe it never wrong for Westerner to pay for everything, all the time. Also it is OK if they are lazy and don't work, but a Westerner should work and give them their money. I hear that working that job doesn't pay enough. There is none of the mentality that any job is better than no job.
Do they lie as much to other Filipinos or is it just to Westerners because we are outside of the tribe?
It is a tribal society and I see their obligation is to their family is first. I see fathers who don't mind their daughter being bar girls and putting in double time boom booming so they can have alcohol or some other non-necessity for the home. I see the girls go along with it to be a good little daughters.
My question is can these girls ever feel their obligation is to their BF or husband and not to their family first?
Big Johnson2
05-02-09, 15:35
I have never used a dating site yet. How easy to bed are the girls on these sites? What % of the girls on the sites are P4P?
Also how easy are non bar girls to bed? Is it a promiscuous culture?
GregLondon
05-02-09, 16:47
You are right 100% that they are different that Westerners. Lying is a way of life, to save face or whatever. I find along with the lying is that they can justify anything they do or others do, especially if it against a Westerner. They believe it never wrong for Westerner to pay for everything, all the time. Also it is OK if they are lazy and don't work, but a Westerner should work and give them their money. I hear that working that job doesn't pay enough. There is none of the mentality that any job is better than no job.
Do they lie as much to other Filipinos or is it just to Westerners because we are outside of the tribe?
It is a tribal society and I see their obligation is to their family is first. I see fathers who don't mind their daughter being bar girls and putting in double time boom booming so they can have alcohol or some other non-necessity for the home. I see the girls go along with it to be a good little daughters.
My question is can these girls ever feel their obligation is to their BF or husband and not to their family first?
I'm now in the Phils and showed this post to me GF here. In her view it is a pretty accurate summary. On your final question, I think it rather depends on whether she is really in love with you or whether she is just pretending to be and sees you primarily as a walking ATM machine to benefit the whole family. I think for the bulk of westerner-Filipina relationships, the latter interpretation is nearer the truth. Even if she really does fal in love with you, she will see taking care of her immediate family, especially parents as a priority. Today at dinner the next table was occupied by a Western guy with a 25 strong Pinay extended family. My GF said she expected that the Westerner would need to pick up the bill for the whole lot.
Personally I see this as a big issue and would be very reluctant to marry a Filipina partly for this reason. I think if you are a university educated nd want an Asian wife say 15 years younger than yourself, it's much better to find a University educated Chinese girl. I've had 3 such serious GFs. Each has been able to hold down a serious job in the West, has had a much more compatible range of interests to me and has a small hard working and respectible family that has never asked me for a penny. Of course if you are a 60 year old looking for a cute 18 year old the Philippines is for sure the place to come, but don't be surprised if it turns out that she is primarily interested in you for the economic benefit of herself and her family.
GregLondon
05-02-09, 17:35
I have never used a dating site yet. How easy to bed are the girls on these sites? What % of the girls on the sites are P4P?
Also how easy are non bar girls to bed? Is it a promiscuous culture?
The majority of girls on most of the dating sites are looking for the elusive "serious relationship" leading to marriage however a significant minority are also open to short term relationships. If there is a significant age gap between you then she wil probably be hoping/expecting/requiring some sort of financial compensation. Typically 500P for short time (a few hours) or 1000P for all night will be seen as reasonable. For reference a girl working as a shopping assistant in a mall would typically earn around 250P a day. of course things vary. Some guys will pretend to be looking for a wife to persuade one of the "serious relationship" ones to bed. Sometimes this will be for "free" but in my experience the costs - dinners, presents etc involved in "free" sex have a tendency to converge on that for paid sex.
There are also a significant number of scammers on these sites (often ladyboys) along with cam girls primarily interested in earning money through cam shows, or girls loking for advanced payments of one sort or another eg to buy a fare to see you etc etc. There are also some girls, often with sexy photos in their profile who are looking for short term sex at higher rates (2000-5000 per night - almost always negotiable down to the lower level)
Personally I believe in being honest and frank about what I am looking for and expecting. In the major population centres you should have no trouble in finding loads of suitable candidates. Often the "naughty" girls will have other naughty sisters/cousins/friends so its relatively easy to organise 3, 4 or more somes if you wish. Its also relatively easy to find virgins willing to let you deflower them if that is your thing.
I personally found the bars in the Phils very boring and have spent minimal time in them. In the last 5 weeks I have only spent one night alone, otherwise always with one or more girls from dating sites or their friends/relatives. In general I have found the sex much more passionate and "real" than that available in the rest of SEA such as Thailand. Generally I make it clear through chat or text before we meet that assuming she likes me, she will end up in bed with me on that date. I am probably missing out on some nice girls being so direct, but given the numbers available it seems to work well. I ask the girls to meet me at my hotel and take her straight to my room. Some prefer to meet in a mall or something, but as Philipinas are always late this can be seriously tiresome.
I've just used Date In Asia and Tagged. Others have used PH, CB (both paid sites) or Person.com (focussed on cam chat). It's also useful to set up a Friendster account to check photos. You really only need to start chatting to girls a few days before you are comming (get their Yahoo messenger ID and cell no through the sites then chat on YM and get a Phils SIM card (best is Smart when you get here), but in practice for many guys the anticipation/preparation is much of the fun.
It is very difficult to judge who will be good and who not before you actually meet. There are loads of instances of guys spending months cultivating particular girls only to find there is no chemistry between them whereas the one they meet by accident or had not rated turns out to be a gem. Some girls seem to act as de facto mama sans for their bunch of friends. I've made very specific requests before now (18-23, slim, cute, no baby, horny) and just been asked OK how many do you want?
This saving face and lying is unbelievable. I met a girl on Date in Asia a few months ago while I was in the Philippines. We became close (sex after a few dates, she said I was only her second sex partner, after her first Pinoy bf) and we went online one day to check out each others profile, just for fun. We exchanged passwords and then never talked about it again. Of course I changed my pw the next day, and she still has the same pw for everything(email, friendster, job sites, ect).
So I was able to take some notes before she deleted old emails. Well there was this one conversation with a guy from Asia who basically promised her the world(she had a very sick relative, who has since died) before they actually met. Eventually he came to visit her, had a great time with her, then dumped her shortly afterwards. She even mentioned she was afraid she might be pregnant in one of her emails to him.
My point? I have asked her many times if she has had any other sex partners besides me and the original Pinoy Trail Blazer. She would always say no, lying directlly to my face (or web cam). I then asked her if she chats with any other guys, just to see if she would lie again, and she lied to me saying no others.
Well after those 2 blantant lies, she will repeat a thousand times that she is not a "lier girl".
This girl went throught the trouble of deleting all her emails in DAI after she read them, but she forgot to delete all of her Sent emails, where she is asking guys to chat and even asked one guy if he was looking for a nice wife.
At first I thought Dragon Slayer was exagerating when he says all Pinays lie, but I have concluded it is true, at least the ones I have first met on the internet. The saying "saving face" is so true. Every Pinay that I put to the test by asking a question that I new the answer to already, lied to me if it would make them look bad, especialy if it was sexual. Most of the time if I showed the proof of their lie, they would say that did not want to ' upset me or they were ashamed"
To qoute GE, "You can have a great time here, and you can indulge yourself in your wildest fantasies, so long as you remember that most of the time they're fantasies and nothing more. This is not your culture and it's essential to keep that always at the forefront of both of your brains." This should be printed and hung on the wall of the Manila Airport Immigration counter for all men to read.
Of course, of all of the girls I met on my last trip, I only told one girl the full truth about how many other girls I had met, and she was the one hooker met.
GregLondon
05-02-09, 18:04
This saving face and lying is unbelievable. I met a girl on Date in Asia a few months ago while I was in the Philippines. We became close (sex after a few dates, she said I was only her second sex partner, after her first Pinoy bf) and we went online one day to check out each others profile, just for fun. We exchanged passwords and then never talked about it again. Of course I changed my pw the next day, and she still has the same pw for everything(email, friendster, job sites, ect).
I agree that the vast majority of Pinay girls lie, but this is in part explained by the wildly unrealistic expectations (or maybe perceived expectations) of many guys. Probably only about 10% of the guys who chat to girls on the dating sites will ever actually show up in the Phils. Of those, very few will actually meet or contact more than 10% of the girls they have had conversations with. There is therefore probably a sub 1% chance that any online contact will actually lead to a physical meeting yet some guys seem to want to believe the fantasy that the girl has only had one prior BF and is only in contact with him. For the girl placing all her chips on this one guy actually showing up and actually getting on with him would be frankly stupid in most cases yet this is apparently what some guys want to hear - and therefore the story that many girls tell all prospective guys.
I agree that the vast majority of Pinay girls lie, but this is in part explained by the wildly unrealistic expectations (or maybe perceived expectations) of many guys. .
I agree, they do not put all there egg in one basket, hoping the one guy they have been chatting to will come and take them away to the promised land (Detroit ?)
I have found that the Pinays lie so easily and effortless to everyone, including family. I have asked girls what their parents will say to her when she returns home after spending the night with me. They respond "I just tell them we had separate rooms or beds, they believe me".
I believe this is part of the "saving face mentality" The girls Parents probably know the white American is not going to fly all the way accross the world to just to sit and watch wwowowee reruns with their little Angel all night.
I notice the male Pinoys find it realy hard to directly admit they were wrong, I just don't push the issue unless it is something really important.
For fun, go ask Pinoys who will win the fight tonight and if it will it be by a knock out or decision. Go back tomorroow and confront those that picked wrong, and watch them back track. Ps. you may get stabbed if Pacman loses.
Big Johnson2
05-02-09, 23:30
I had an experience like you where a girl I had dated gave me her Date In Asia id and password, because I wanted to see her profile and she said she had nothing to hide. I was surprised at the lack of follow through she got from men. Lame messages and nothing ever coming of there Emails.
I had a second much different experience with another girl on DIA that said she was looking for a husband. I found what you were describing. Tons and tons of lying had been going on. She had another boyfriend while she was suppose to be truthful to me, of course this is while I was away. And tons of other lying about her fidelity to me. Her answer to me was she didn't think I loved her because I didn't call her often enough and I only sent her money occasionally. It makes you wonder if a girl like this could ever marry a man and be faithful or would she always be looking for something better? Are Filipino girls faithful when they are married?
Big Johnson2
05-02-09, 23:47
I personally found the bars in the Phils very boring and have spent minimal time in them. In the last 5 weeks I have only spent one night alone, otherwise always with one or more girls from dating sites or their friends/relatives. In general I have found the sex much more passionate and "real" than that available in the rest of SEA such as Thailand. Generally I make it clear through chat or text before we meet that assuming she likes me, she will end up in bed with me on that date. I am probably missing out on some nice girls being so direct, but given the numbers available it seems to work well. I ask the girls to meet me at my hotel and take her straight to my room. Some prefer to meet in a mall or something, but as Philipinas are always late this can be seriously tiresome.
Thank you for the detailed answer. It was very informative. Are these girls that are coming over and know that you want sex expecting money? Do you discuss this upfront?
If so they are P4P just like bar girls, only you find them in a different way. Right? I know you can go to LA Cafe or discos in Thailand and pick up girls and bring them home with you too.
I think you're doing the right thing, being up front and telling them what you want. Why waste your time on a bunch of dinners if she will never sleep with you.
I find the ones that want to be your girl friend don't ask for money up front. They are smart and know that by being your girl friend they will get a lot more money that way.
Southbound69
05-03-09, 00:17
I have a girl right now in Cebu that I have traveled with twice in the PI. She really did seem like an innocent girl. She even said she was. Of course I don't believe it. She is still on DIA where I meet her in November. One time we were chatting on YM and I asked her if she has been on DIA lately. She said no and that she could not figure out how to cancel her account (yeah, right). As we were chatting I checked her DIA page (which I have bookmarked) and she was logged on as we were chatting! Another time I texted her to go to the internet so we could chat and she said she can't go because she dosen't have any money. Not believing her story I checked her account and yes, she was logged in!! Unbelieveable! I never bring up DIA and I occasionally check it because I use it as a tattle tale just for these reasons.
Actually, I really don't care if they lie to me. Afterall, I lie to them. Just as long as you know they are doing it and act accordingly. I don't think you can really trust them when you are 8,000 miles away. Do you expect her to be waiting in her province like a good little girl waiting for you to come back some day to see her?
Southbound69
Big Johnson2
05-03-09, 00:25
I'm now in the Phils and showed this post to me GF here. In her view it is a pretty accurate summary. On your final question, I think it rather depends on whether she is really in love with you or whether she is just pretending to be and sees you primarily as a walking ATM machine to benefit the whole family. I think for the bulk of westerner-Filipina relationships, the latter interpretation is nearer the truth. Even if she really does fal in love with you, she will see taking care of her immediate family, especially parents as a priority. Today at dinner the next table was occupied by a Western guy with a 25 strong Pinay extended family. My GF said she expected that the Westerner would need to pick up the bill for the whole lot.
Your description of the Westerner picking up the tab for the whole group, reminds me of experiences with my GFs family and friends. Is this always expected or am I being taken advantage of. My question is when is enough enough and when are they taking advantage of you. I had 2 incidents that bothered me and I thought maybe this was going too far. I've found if you want to buy some beer to drink with dinner at her parents house, one round is never enough. It then becomes another 2 rounds. We are leaving and she asks me to get her family some more beer/rum. Now this may only cost $2-3 USD, but I'm leaving and won't be there to enjoy it. Is this appropriate/nice manners?
Second incident, we all went out to a disco and the friends asked if they can order food for the table. There tends to be more food than I originally anticipated. We got a friend of hers who had a trike to take us and bring us back because no trikes ran at night to that village. The trike driver proceeded to get drunk on my money and I didn't feel he was safe to drive us home. I felt that I was being taken advantage of because he was charging a lot and didn't want to quit drinking.
Should I just say no, when I don't want to buy that last round of drinks. Do they respect you more when you say no or are you disliked as a cheap foreigner. I'd like to hear your GF opinion and the opinions of other guys out there.
GoodEnough
05-03-09, 01:32
The whole "How much is enough" question is entirely personal. At the end of the day, you're the one who must decide the point at which you're sick and tired of the parasites. In my case, it's easy. I refuse to do any of it when it's "expected." Regardless of what others may say about "true love" or "when she really loves you," or such other romantic canards, the fact is we are, and we always will be mainly ATMs with feet. She may like you, but part of that attraction is your constant willingness and ability to provide things for her family and friends that they cannot, or will not, or do not provide for themselves. Don't forget, in these cases the women also gain face, since they're the ones that brought the cash machine home, so to speak.
GE
Big Johnson2
05-03-09, 03:48
The whole "How much is enough" question is entirely personal. At the end of the day, you're the one who must decide the point at which you're sick and tired of the parasites. In my case, it's easy. I refuse to do any of it when it's "expected." Regardless of what others may say about "true love" or "when she really loves you," or such other romantic canards, the fact is we are, and we always will be mainly ATMs with feet. She may like you, but part of that attraction is your constant willingness and ability to provide things for her family and friends that they cannot, or will not, or do not provide for themselves. Don't forget, in these cases the women also gain face, since they're the ones that brought the cash machine home, so to speak.
GE
You are so right. My GF was always thought of as second class in her family behind her brothers. She told me when she became a bar girl and was sending money home then she was important and they couldn't give her any shit anymore. She told me once her mother was talking about how much she liked something and wanted to know if she could get her another one, and my GF told her, "do you know how many men I had to fuck to get that?" I truthfully believe that if she was sending home twice as much as a bar girl as what I'm currently giving her, they'd tell my GF to go back to being a bar girl. Now to generalize, I think many of these girls are treated as second class citizens in their families and are sent away to earn money. I think many of the girls have inferiority complexes and they will go boom boom as many men as they can to buy people in their family gifts to win face.
Member #4491
05-03-09, 13:55
Imho all girls that found their way to the dating sites will see and chat with a whole bunch of men. In a sense they are less interesting than the girls you meet randomly. I am very honest to the girls I see, and they get the same with me after a while when they discover that no lies are required to keep this ATM oiled up. All of them, without exceptions, told me about Americans, Germans, Pakis, etc that they regularly chat with. If those guys come to town, they will meet.
All 40 million females are not like this though. The corrupted few on for example DIA differ a lot from many of the girls I met "on site" in Davao, and a few I met from the dating sites. They do not care about Internet, foreigners and pots of gold at the end of the rainbow. I worked hard to, as a foreigner, get trusted. Gifts was useless. That would only manifest the image of the untrustworthy foreigner. Just hanging out with the girl on local places, beaches, etc, showing a true appreciation for the country made a difference with those girls. A lot is for sale, but not everything. Seeing through those chicas is not rocket science, so when a man once in a while don't see any crap I like to avoid spoiling the experience by generalizing and listening to the cynics. In all countries there are all types, just of various concentrations.
B
Well I kept exchanging emails last night with the that girl who will not admit that
1. She had sex with a foreigner before we met. I keep saying I don't care if she did before we met, I just can not stand her lying to me. She does not know how much proof I have that it did happen, so she keeps say what a honest girl she is, over and over again.
2. the other lie is she is not chatting with other men. Again, I told I don't care if she does, we are not married. Just don't lie to me about it.
Well she offered to give me her DIA password to prove to me she is not trying to chat or meet other men, and she also put her profile as "hidden". I told her I don't want her password.
So I just checked her DIA account, since she forgot she gave me the password last year. She has deleted all of her emails except a couple from some dude that she is not really interested in. Of course I checked her SENT emails and there are a shit load of emails from her to other guys. Boom! I got her red handed.
Now the question is how she is going to "save face"and blame me for the fact she is lying.
Yes, I know I am acting immature, and the only reason I have not just let it go is because she is throwing all the the scammer tricks my way: ï love you", you will have bad karma now for not trusting me, I am good girl, you are the one cheating...."
Barba is correct, the best way to meet a good Pinay is in person. But for guys like me who can only visit the country once a year for a short time, we need to set up the dates in advance and hope we did a good job of vetting (vetting is a word I hear constantly on the political shows, thought I would try using it). Also, I am shy with girls, I am not good at meeting ordinary girls at the mall or club.
The internet dating sites are not perfect, but it is the best I have found for me.
Big Johnson2
05-03-09, 20:44
Well I kept exchanging emails last night with the that girl who will not admit that
1. She had sex with a foreigner before we met. I keep saying I don't care if she did before we met, I just can not stand her lying to me. She does not know how much proof I have that it did happen, so she keeps say what a honest girl she is, over and over again.
2. the other lie is she is not chatting with other men. Again, I told I don't care if she does, we are not married. Just don't lie to me about it.
Very simple, you have a girl who is not honest. Quit trying to expect her to have your level of honesty. She will not change. You are in a good position, you know what she is doing. Just have fun with her, she is not GF material. If you want an honest girl keep looking.
Kavorka341
05-03-09, 22:21
Recently returned from a 2 week trip to Phils, heres the story...
I've spent time in the Phils before, but only on business and only in Manila. I've done plenty of mongering throughout asia in the past, so the trips were not only work...
This time was my first trip for pleasure only, so I decided to spend 1 week in Cebu and 1 week in Davao. Using FH I found myself a young girl in each place and planned to meet them.
So I tell the Cebu girl that I will only be in town for 3 nights. She says ok, she will stay with me. I ask her if she is coming alone to meet me at the airport and she says yes. So on arrival in Cebu I exit the airport and see her there. Of course she is not alone. I go and meet her and do the introductions then she introduces me to her friend. 'This is my mother'.
I am 38, she is 18. The strangest part was being older than her mother. She was only 37. So I jump in the hotel car with her, and the mother also gets in. It was quite a strange trip to the hotel, but obviously I had made a good enough impression in that 25 minutes that the mother felt I was suitable to defile her daughter for 3 days.
We get in the hotel and it's quite obvious she just wants to get that initial sex out of the way. So we do. That indicated to me that she had obviously done this before. The sex was ok, but she wasn't really that experienced. So we get it on for the 3 days, and do alot of chatting. She was a really nice girl, from the islands, and really didn't know much about where to go, what to do in Cebu city. She was upfront with me (I'm assuming), that she has had 4 or 5 boyfriends and recently broke up with an older foriegn guy.
To cut a long story short I end up cancelling the trip to Davao and staying with this girl for 2 weeks.
I travelled to her island and stayed in her village for 10 days. We were met at the port by her younger brothers, who take my luggage and head off in the trike, while we get a lift from some guy on a motorbike. Once we arrived at the guesthouse she introduces the guy as her father. Another strange experience as the father and brothers hauled all my luggage into the room, not letting me do anything. Then they tell me to take a walk with them. We walk for about 20 minutes in a cirle and end up back at the guesthouse. Of course the route they took me on passed everybody they knew. Really an uncomfortable feeling being paraded around the village so they could show everyone I was with their daughter.
Of course during these 10 days I was taken to every bar, restaurant, karaoke joint that was run by a friend or family member, or a friend of a cousin of a friends family member.... I had the nights out with her friends for which I paid the bills. I took the family out to dinner one night (mother, father and 6 siblings) for which I paid the bill.
But in return I got looked after like a king. Every morning I would go outside the room to find her mother had left fresh coffee and fruits. At lunchtime I would be brought food and drinks. My dirty clothes were taken and cleaned. I even commented on the 2nd day that it would be good to have a television in the room, and 15 minutes later her father was hauling a televison from there place into the guesthouse for me. Anytime I wanted anything she would be on the phone to her younger brother and he would bring it to me.
Never at any stage was I asked for any actual money. Of course I pumped plenty of pesos into their village and perhaps they were getting some kickbacks from the different bars and restaurants I went to, but I was never asked to pay for any of the food, or any of the drinks which were brought to my room during the 10 days, so I was happy to have spent the money I did for the experience I received. And of course there was plenty of good sex.
So what now...
I see her on cam everyday, I know from the surroundings she is at the internet cafe in her village. She has given me her email and friendster logins, and I am plastered all over her page. She has cancelled her account on FH. I really like this girl, and with the work I do I have the opportunity to go back and see her every 6 weeks, and in a month I will be back. But this time taking her on holidays somewhere away from the family.
I've always said I would never be naive enough to fall for a bar girl, but can you take this same attitude with a girl you meet from the provinces ? I understand the resposibilities (and costs) I would take on if I get serious with this girl, and I know her definition of 'love' is different than mine. I'm looking for a young girl from a good family to mother a child for me, she is looking for someone to look after her and her family. If we are both happy with that and really enjoy our time together, then how much in love do you need to be ?
There are so many bad stories, but surely sometimes things work out for the good... how can you minimize the risk, and when do you decide to take that risk ?
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Big Johnson2
05-03-09, 23:21
If you go Filipina Heart and search on Samar by most recent Activity, 18-26, under 5'6'' and <119, you get tons of girls with no pictures. Like probably 1/3 of the girls. What is going on? Are these girls Cheaters that already have a Boy Friend and don't want to get caught? What is the reason for this?
Who is a girl that will go out with someone 18-80?
There are many different answers. Why don't you ask a few of the ladies?
I can think of four quick answers:
1) she's butt ugly
2) she hot and cannot begin to handle the flood of mail whe would get if she posted a pic.
3) she not very computer savvy....a friend helped her fill out the profile.
4) scanning a pic, or renting a webcam often costs more money....and many of these ladies don't have much money to spare...
X Man
If you go Filipina Heart and search on Samar by most recent Activity, 18-26, under 5'6'' and <119, you get tons of girls with no pictures. Like probably 1/3 of the girls. What is going on? Are these girls Cheaters that already have a Boy Friend and don't want to get caught? What is the reason for this?
Who is a girl that will go out with someone 18-80?
MarkFalcon33
05-04-09, 09:37
If you are happy with her and do not plan on taking her out of PI, then you are ok. BUT, if you plan on moving her to where you are which Im not sure of from your post.
There is a saying, marry a girl from PI, you marry the whole family. I'm not saying that is bad, just be a where of it.
Recently returned from a 2 week trip to Phils, heres the story...
I've spent time in the Phils before, but only on business and only in Manila. I've done plenty of mongering throughout asia in the past, so the trips were not only work...
This time was my first trip for pleasure only, so I decided to spend 1 week in Cebu and 1 week in Davao. Using FH I found myself a young girl in each place and planned to meet them.
So I tell the Cebu girl that I will only be in town for 3 nights. She says ok, she will stay with me. I ask her if she is coming alone to meet me at the airport and she says yes. So on arrival in Cebu I exit the airport and see her there. Of course she is not alone. I go and meet her and do the introductions then she introduces me to her friend. 'This is my mother'.
I am 38, she is 18. The strangest part was being older than her mother. She was only 37. So I jump in the hotel car with her, and the mother also gets in. It was quite a strange trip to the hotel, but obviously I had made a good enough impression in that 25 minutes that the mother felt I was suitable to defile her daughter for 3 days.
We get in the hotel and it's quite obvious she just wants to get that initial sex out of the way. So we do. That indicated to me that she had obviously done this before. The sex was ok, but she wasn't really that experienced. So we get it on for the 3 days, and do alot of chatting. She was a really nice girl, from the islands, and really didn't know much about where to go, what to do in Cebu city. She was upfront with me (I'm assuming), that she has had 4 or 5 boyfriends and recently broke up with an older foriegn guy.
To cut a long story short I end up cancelling the trip to Davao and staying with this girl for 2 weeks.
I travelled to her island and stayed in her village for 10 days. We were met at the port by her younger brothers, who take my luggage and head off in the trike, while we get a lift from some guy on a motorbike. Once we arrived at the guesthouse she introduces the guy as her father. Another strange experience as the father and brothers hauled all my luggage into the room, not letting me do anything. Then they tell me to take a walk with them. We walk for about 20 minutes in a cirle and end up back at the guesthouse. Of course the route they took me on passed everybody they knew. Really an uncomfortable feeling being paraded around the village so they could show everyone I was with their daughter.
Of course during these 10 days I was taken to every bar, restaurant, karaoke joint that was run by a friend or family member, or a friend of a cousin of a friends family member.... I had the nights out with her friends for which I paid the bills. I took the family out to dinner one night (mother, father and 6 siblings) for which I paid the bill.
But in return I got looked after like a king. Every morning I would go outside the room to find her mother had left fresh coffee and fruits. At lunchtime I would be brought food and drinks. My dirty clothes were taken and cleaned. I even commented on the 2nd day that it would be good to have a television in the room, and 15 minutes later her father was hauling a televison from there place into the guesthouse for me. Anytime I wanted anything she would be on the phone to her younger brother and he would bring it to me.
Never at any stage was I asked for any actual money. Of course I pumped plenty of pesos into their village and perhaps they were getting some kickbacks from the different bars and restaurants I went to, but I was never asked to pay for any of the food, or any of the drinks which were brought to my room during the 10 days, so I was happy to have spent the money I did for the experience I received. And of course there was plenty of good sex.
So what now...
I see her on cam everyday, I know from the surroundings she is at the internet cafe in her village. She has given me her email and friendster logins, and I am plastered all over her page. She has cancelled her account on FH. I really like this girl, and with the work I do I have the opportunity to go back and see her every 6 weeks, and in a month I will be back. But this time taking her on holidays somewhere away from the family.
I've always said I would never be naive enough to fall for a bar girl, but can you take this same attitude with a girl you meet from the provinces ? I understand the resposibilities (and costs) I would take on if I get serious with this girl, and I know her definition of 'love' is different than mine. I'm looking for a young girl from a good family to mother a child for me, she is looking for someone to look after her and her family. If we are both happy with that and really enjoy our time together, then how much in love do you need to be ?
There are so many bad stories, but surely sometimes things work out for the good... how can you minimize the risk, and when do you decide to take that risk ?
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Hunny Buns
05-05-09, 00:04
If you are happy with her and do not plan on taking her out of PI, then you are ok. BUT, if you plan on moving her to where you are which Im not sure of from your post.
There is a saying, marry a girl from PI, you marry the whole family. I'm not saying that is bad, just be a where of it.It's if you marry a girl from PI, you marry the whole country :-) Get over the sex, and I hate to say it, but girls like you've met are dime a dozen. I have made mistakes of falling for a girl; then waking up and realizing that it had to stop. When I did, the she spew venon like a king cobra accusing me that I ruined her life, career, body and everything else.
This girl seems to give her all, but you should know that she expects the same from you. Unless, you are willing to do that, I think the best thing to do is to just enjoy and leave.
Just my 2 cents...
FreebieFan
05-05-09, 01:06
Recently returned from a 2 week trip to Phils, heres the story...
I've spent time in the Phils before, but only on business and only in Manila. I've done plenty of mongering throughout asia in the past, so the trips were not only work...
This time was my first trip for pleasure only, so I decided to spend 1 week in Cebu and 1 week in Davao. Using FH I found myself a young girl in each place and planned to meet them.
So I tell the Cebu girl that I will only be in town for 3 nights. She says ok, she will stay with me. I ask her if she is coming alone to meet me at the airport and she says yes. So on arrival in Cebu I exit the airport and see her there. Of course she is not alone. I go and meet her and do the introductions then she introduces me to her friend. 'This is my mother'.
I am 38, she is 18. The strangest part was being older than her mother. She was only 37.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.When I first relaised that I'm older than the girls parents that was a weird thought. Then it kept on ocurring and no longer phases me. Especially when they say. " my dad looks old but you look much younger than him "
I don't know what I'm going to do when sonme 18 yr tells me. Oh your as old as my lolo (grand dad).
Big Johnson2
05-05-09, 01:50
Very nice story. I had a similar experience.
There is a 20 year difference between myself & my GF. I went to my GFs island for the first time. I felt like you did. When I arrived at her house, everyone came over to meet me. In addition I think everyone else in the village was looking in the door or windows to see me. I felt like they had never seen a white guy before. When I walked through the village I felt like the Pied Piper because all the kids follow me around. When I went to an outside dance at the village there was a group of 13 year old girls "groupies" who just stood and stared. I think they thought I was Tom Cruise or something. We went to quite a few Karaoke bars w/ friend. Even though I picked up the tab, it was usually only about $5 for the whole group. Her parents definitely treated me like the guest of honor, almost like a colonial feel still. I think in her village it is a big status symbol to marry a foreigner.
In case you have not been to Visayas, you are really missing something by not seeing these "wild" islands. The food is unbelievable. The fish is the best I've had anywhere, usually only hours out of the water. I never really had any good fish in Luzon.
Banging a different girl every night is fun, but there is definitely something good about the real GFE.
When I told my negative friends in the West that she is happy staying in Phil, they were shocked, because they believed all young pretty girls only wanted Western guys to get Visa to get to the USA.
I agree with MarkFalcon38, do Not bring her back to the West. It can work over in the Phil, because that age difference is not that uncommon when they hook up w/ foreigners. You are seen a GREAT catch to this girl and her family. Be happy! Enjoy!
Puerto La Cruz
05-05-09, 04:43
Agreed. That's why I tell them that I'm moving there. Most girls run after I tell them that. If I have pinay here and she runs, then I start from a mile back again. If I have a pinay there and she runs, I walk around the corner.
run, mile back, have a pinay....
I'm a native English speaker and I don't understand this post. Can anyone translate?
X man
"walk around the corner"
Agreed. That's why I tell them that I'm moving there. Most girls run after I tell them that. If I have pinay here and she runs, then I start from a mile back again. If I have a pinay there and she runs, I walk around the corner.
Hi,
just got this weird message as new contact on my ym...
conversation starts like that:
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:04:37): hello.how are you?
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:04:44): its me jhen 25/f/phils
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:04:56): i think u curious wer i get ur id right?
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:06:23): i see ur id on my little sister was died 2007 so i try to check if this id is still in use so i am surprise yes its still use
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:06:23): yes right
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:06:47): i dnt know if u nkow her or maybe u forget her bcz thats a year fast
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:07:12): wel I dont know
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:07:21): where she from?
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:07:24): yes i think u dnt know that
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:07:56): u have pci of ur sis?
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:08:00): pic
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:08:05): but,did u believe even i want to give her id to you atleast u can remind who is she i really dnt know her id bcz b4 i dnt know how to use com and i am not interesting to use like this
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:08:11): yes i have
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:08:20): anyway,ur asl please
and now the most weird part :D
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:18:45): where she worked? how old was she?
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:18:59): she is not working
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:19:06): she is 23 now
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:19:15): but when she died she is 21
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:19:32): ah ok, well thats sad to hear
Jennifer Cortez (05.05.2009 14:19:50): yes but dats lyf
Mr.lonelyheart (05.05.2009 14:20:24): yess
So hmmm, that really works in the Philippines. YOu die and then some days later you raise from the dead and get back to ym :D
oh well
Blink out
Puerto La Cruz
05-05-09, 13:29
run, mile back, have a pinay....
I'm a native English speaker and I don't understand this post. Can anyone translate?
X man
"walk around the corner"
Either you've been in Japan too long or are a product of the Detroit public schools.
Cuba Tourist
05-05-09, 14:45
This girl has a boyfriend but is still on DIA all the time. imyour_sweetie!
I want to meet a Male
with age from 18 to 61
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
no one......i've finaly found my sweetheart...thanks DIA! i love you william blaby!!!theshyman..........
i love you william blaby!!!!
Wicked Roger
05-05-09, 17:43
When I first relaised that I'm older than the girls parents that was a weird thought. Then it kept on ocurring and no longer phases me. Especially when they say. " my dad looks old but you look much younger than him "
I don't know what I'm going to do when sonme 18 yr tells me. Oh your as old as my lolo (grand dad).
FF
Has never bothered me actually quite a turn on...;) My bet to myself it try and keep the age gap very high, so nice when in your 50s you are shagging a lovely 18/19 year old who tells you that your are definitely not old just very horny and naughty :D And she is amazed as she never thought older guys were like that .....
I hope some lovely does say I am as old as her lolo and then I will still shag her sensless :)
Member #4491
05-05-09, 23:07
recently returned from a 2 week trip to phils, heres the story...
after reading your story i can only congratulate you. do not let the cynics and their stories get to you. i have relatives and close friends that lived large parts of their life with pinays and they are happy. more than ever. they are growing old together. you know all the answers to setting up limits and so on for the family. that part is simple really for anyone that contemplate his own limits for a moment. set up rules and do not bend them. a man is a provider and a care taker. it makes us feel good. to give and provide makes us feel like good men, at least if we do not get infected by cynicism and suspicion. there are no pockets on the wooden suit we all will end up in. west raped the globe for centuries. the standard we enjoy came from someones else's blood and sweat. so it is not hard to motivate some pay back in my opinion. spend the cash and live life. tomorrow you might have the swine flu.
if my advice is worth anything i'd say go for it man. marry her. get babies. build a little house and build a little family in this house. it is not a life time sentence in jail. it is about doing the important things in life. you can still fuck around every now and then. we are just dogs, and they know it. just do your part as a man and be happy. if you separate in the future you will have wonderful children and the comfort of taking that leap.
gut feeling is a humans constant and collected evaluation of thousands of parameters. a statistical description of potential outcome that you could never put to print, but that guide you well if you are really true to it and yourself. go with your gut mate. always remember that there are hundreds of exists down the road, so no need to run out the first one because someone else once was burnt by a deceptive woman.
keep us in the loop, kavorka341.
best regards barba
Cunning Stunt
05-06-09, 04:43
Has never bothered me actually quite a turn on...;) My bet to myself it try and keep the age gap very high, so nice when in your 50s you are shagging a lovely 18/19 year old who tells you that your are definitely not old just very horny and naughty :D And she is amazed as she never thought older guys were like that .....
I hope some lovely does say I am as old as her lolo and then I will still shag her sensless :)
Right on, WR. There is nothing to beat the look of amazement on the faces of some of these young dollies as they expect a quick rumble and then you proceed to shag them into exhausted submission. It is priceless and the pleasure that they get often have them coming back for more.
Older guys are often wealthier, better mannered and more generous both financially and with their time and patience than young bucks. Plus old dogs tend to have picked up a good few tricks along the way which can tend to delight and astonish these young b*****'*.
Age is definitely no barrier to love in The Philippines as it is in the west (unless you are super wealthy).
Instead of a simple answer, you bless me with your usual moroninity.
My Internet searches for "walk around the corner" and "from a mile back" do not show any usage similar to the way you have used them.
I've never attended a Detroit public school.
X
BTW, do you have any OTHER alias here at ISG? Your style reminds me of someone else.
Either you've been in Japan too long or are a product of the Detroit public schools.
Cunning Stunt
05-06-09, 08:13
...."moroninity" ...
Great word that, X. Did you invent it? What does it mean?
The problem with local guys their own age is a private place. They don't have the back seat of a car! Unless she uses money from you, the foreigner, they cannot afford a ST motel room. If she hangs out with a BF for one week, they might find a room of their own to use once. But don't kid yourself--they do have sex with guys who speak their native language and enjoy the same music.
You guys can try to validate these 20-40 year age differences as long as you want. I think they are cool as long as they are not genuine. To each his own but what could a 60 year old man have in common with 20 year old woman? As long as those two people enjoy each other company there is no problem but I know one independent, Filipina who said she was disgusted with guys “old” guys walking around with those “young” girls as she put it. Also people are attracted to youth its human nature men and women.
Do you go to the bar looking for 40-60 year old bar girls? I know the hell I don’t. Age is a factor as well as other things here just as in the west only in the third world the local women are more likely to “over look it.”
As for fucking the bar girls or “jump offs” to death how is this possible when most of you guys are married…or have a steady…Well I know Wicked R story but sadly this is not the case with other guys.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jump+off
Excuse me guys, but you are often talking about "DIA", I read the 5 last pages and made a research on google and I still can't figure out what is this website?
Is there any other website that I could check in order to contact pinay girls?
I am considering creating a YM account, I know about CAMFROG, what else is there?
Cunning Stunt
05-06-09, 17:24
A sex board is full of ‘interesting’ and varied characters but those misogynist, moralizing killjoys who try to ‘[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the chips’ of other members are, in my view, the most unwelcome.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)%20on%20your%20chips
Excuse me guys, but you are often talking about "DIA", I read the 5 last pages and made a research on google and I still can't figure out what is this website?
Is there any other website that I could check in order to contact pinay girls?
I am considering creating a YM account, I know about CAMFROG, what else is there?Dateinasia, free searching, free membership, recommended but many fake profiles and scammers
Cebuanas
Filipinaheart
CherryBlossom
Beware, the girls on these sites are mostly looking for relationship, sometimes P4P Many filipina's have Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Messenger and Friendster
Ok like this?
Good luck, hw1940
Excuse me guys, but you are often talking about "DIA", I read the 5 last pages and made a research on google and I still can't figure out what is this website?
DIA = DateInAsia.com
FreebieFan
05-07-09, 00:56
You guys can try to validate these 20-40 year age differences as long as you want. I think they are cool as long as they are not genuine. To each his own but what could a 60 year old man have in common with 20 year old woman? As long as those two people enjoy each other company there is no problem but I know one independent, Filipina who said she was disgusted with guys “old” guys walking around with those “young” girls as she put it. Also people are attracted to youth its human nature men and women.
As for fucking the bar girls or “jump offs” to death how is this possible when most of you guys are married…or have a steady…Well I know Wicked R story but sadly this is not the case with other guys.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jump+offIn some countries, the similarity in age of partners is the norm. Indeed in a recent Craigs List post I read some lady said she would welcome inquiries from guys up to the age of 35, after that she said it would just be "old age creeps". The point being that none of us mongers have any interest in people of 50 or whatever our age is. The other point being that in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia etc is VERY nornal for a 50 year old to be with a 20 year old and for it to be "normal " for both parties. Its enjoyable for both, so its a non issue.
You mean you didn't find it in your dictionary?
Ask Puerta la cruz. Maybe he knows.
X
Great word that, X. Did you invent it? What does it mean?
Puerto La Cruz
05-08-09, 01:06
You mean you didn't find it in your dictionary?
Ask Puerta la cruz. Maybe he knows.
X
You don't know when to stop do you. Two things in life will get you in trouble. One is your dick. Figure out what the other one is.
No wonder you got banised from Detroit to Japan.
No a very nice guy.
You don't know when to stop do you. Two things in life will get you in trouble. One is your dick. Figure out what the other one is.
No wonder you got banised from Detroit to Japan.
No a very nice guy.Not to get in the middle of a pissing contest here, but the word is banished-not banised, and, as far know, X is free to go anywhere he pleases, and he always tells it as it is.
If you are going to insult members here, at least use spell check.
Puerto La Cruz
05-08-09, 12:12
Not to get in the middle of a pissing contest here, but the word is banished-not banised, and, as far know, X is free to go anywhere he pleases, and he always tells it as it is.
If you are going to insult members here, at least use spell check.
And those of use who have been on the receiving end of his serial antagonism are also free to respond. As per a misspelled word with an overlooked "h" we are all human. I certainly know how to spell that word.
La Cruz, you seem to not realize that I simply asked for clarification of some things you wrote in your earlier message. It was not meant as an insult on your English -- I was just curious. You responded rudely and therefore I responded rudely.
I asked the ISG master to create the Chat Rooms thread so that people can discuss their online relationships (see what a nice guy I am!). Can we please get back to that?
X
I'm so sad to have been banished FROM Detroit. I wish I could return. I love it there! Maybe I can get a factory job at GM!
http://www.wsws.org/images/foreclosure_photo1.JPG
You don't know when to stop do you. Two things in life will get you in trouble. One is your dick. Figure out what the other one is.
No wonder you got banised from Detroit to Japan.
No a very nice guy.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-09-09, 12:30
ok, you morons, take your bickering somewhere else. nobody wants to hear that shit here.
now then, back to business. has anybody had any luck with arranging meet ups through person dot com? i really like their webcam-based interface as you can see exactly what you'd be getting. i did notice though, unfortunately, there's a fair number of girls on it that appear grossly ****.
input pls?
Gaijin Gigolo
05-09-09, 13:24
While planning my upcoming trip to the land of milk and honey, I couldn't help but notice a very high percentage of girls on DIA are from Cebu and a fairly large number of them from Davao as well. Not nearly as many from Manila. This makes me wonder...why, obviously, and also, will I find my myself spending my whole trip in Cebu and never make it to Manila and Angeles which is my plan? Input please?
http://filipinofriendfinder.com has anyone had much experience on it. I thought I would give it a try before my next trip. I believe it is more tailored for fun vs. LTR.
I have used CB, FH, and DIA in the past and had good luck.
I also believe that filipinofriendfinder is supposed to have some local (usa) girls, but the ones I saw had not logged in for the last 3 months.
Is it easy to use like the other sites, so far it seem to have so many gimics, and not straight forward emails after a search.
And those of use who have been on the receiving end of his serial antagonism are also free to respond. As per a misspelled word with an overlooked "h" we are all humanAgreed, this habitual antagonism is so tedious. The only way to stop trolls is to place the offender on your ignore list. The offender in question gets away with it by keeping his nonsense just under the threshold of the admin. It's been going on for years. Seems like a person with an abrasive personality & too much time on his hands. Just use your ignore list Puerta.
AV
While planning my upcoming trip to the land of milk and honey, I couldn't help but notice a very high percentage of girls on DIA are from Cebu and a fairly large number of them from Davao as well. Not nearly as many from Manila. This makes me wonder...why, obviously, and also, will I find my myself spending my whole trip in Cebu and never make it to Manila and Angeles which is my plan? Input please?Theres tons of chicks from all over on DIA but of course being free it attracts a lot of poor girls from the province. By all means go check out Manila & AC also. The country is filled to bursting with women ready to put a smile on your face. Go try it all & report back to us your fun :)
AV
http://filipinofriendfinder.com has anyone had much experience on it. I thought I would give it a try before my next trip. I believe it is more tailored for fun vs. LTR.
I have used CB, FH, and DIA in the past and had good luck.
I also believe that filipinofriendfinder is supposed to have some local (usa) girls, but the ones I saw had not logged in for the last 3 months.
Is it easy to use like the other sites, so far it seem to have so many gimics, and not straight forward emails after a search.like all AFF sites there is a lot of fakes, scammers & stale profiles. But there is a good amount of middle class hotties & semi pros on there. You will enjoy them. The other sites you mentioned are good also but the girls are less explicit. Dating sites are for LTR but you find hotties just the same. The country is awash with women. Don't need to spend too much time on web sites. You will see what I mean when you get here.
Cheers!
AV
http://filipinofriendfinder.com has anyone had much experience on it. I thought I would give it a try before my next trip. I believe it is more tailored for fun vs. LTR.
I have used CB, FH, and DIA in the past and had good luck.
I also believe that filipinofriendfinder is supposed to have some local (usa) girls, but the ones I saw had not logged in for the last 3 months.
Is it easy to use like the other sites, so far it seem to have so many gimics, and not straight forward emails after a search.Dear Bob,
My opinion is that all the Friend Finder networks, there seem to be dozens of them, are not worth the effort. I would expect any Filipina who paid to be on the site to be a serious hunter, as most I know go for the free sites like DIA and FH. Given your parameters of fun, that type of girl I would expect is either a bar girl or cam girl, both looking to separate you from your money. Think you could just go to a bar when you get to PH and have greater selection and a more straightforward transaction. For the price of a 12 month gold membership, you can pay for five BF. Unless you seek a real girlfriend from the provinces, I think any site is a lot of effort, for a very limited selection of fun when you get here. Arranging appointments, wanting travel money, maybe disappointment upon meeting or no-shows. If all you want is fun, would just go to a bar, mall or walk out on the street, the girls are everywhere. Have a good time
Regards
Matius
While planning my upcoming trip to the land of milk and honey, I couldn't help but notice a very high percentage of girls on DIA are from Cebu and a fairly large number of them from Davao as well. Not nearly as many from Manila. This makes me wonder...why, obviously, and also, will I find my myself spending my whole trip in Cebu and never make it to Manila and Angeles which is my plan? Input please?I think when you get to Manila or Angeles you will find a large number of girls are from the Cebu region, Samar, Mindano. Just because the girl says she is from Cebu, as an example, does not mean she is actually there right now. She may be working a bar in either Angeles or Manila, the girls tend to put their home town, rather than where they are at the moment. Filipino graduate from highschool when they are 16, so University/College is generally over by the time they are 20 or 21. When you see girls that are 23 to 30 that are still students, not always, but often it means they either have no job or are working in a job they prefer not to mention, massage, bar, cam girl, etc. Or they are being sponsored by some Western guy. Not a rule, just to keep your eyes open for it. Cebu is not a bad place to go, thus would recommend it, but you don't have to alter your plans, as all those girls will be in Manila and Angeles as well. The final point is that you don't have to go to the girls, in Angeles or Manila, the girls are there. You will not find a shortage of talent. Have fun.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-10-09, 12:28
Amavida and Matius, thanks very much for your insight and advice. Much appreciated. With 12 days at my disposal, I think I will stick to my original plan,which was Cebu for 4 days, Manila for 5 and Angeles for 3. Am getting tons of interest on DIA as was the case with my last visit so I'll have quite a few dates lined up before I arrive. If they don't work out, or turn out to be too much trouble, so be it...am still in the Phils. :-) Thanks again.
This affliction called AVD has promised to ignore me, but always shows up to add his two cents. He has an interesting definition for "ignore".
If he has placed me on his "ignore list", is it fair to make any judgement about what I posted?
I think anyone who read my last post to La cruz can see it is neutral and was meant to diffuse the situation rather than escalate it.
So, who is being antagonistic?
X
Agreed, this habitual antagonism is so tedious. The only way to stop trolls is to place the offender on your ignore list. The offender in question gets away with it by keeping his nonsense just under the threshold of the admin. It's been going on for years. Seems like a person with an abrasive personality & too much time on his hands. Just use your ignore list Puerta.
AV
Gaijin Gig, I've found the southern Philippines preferable to the north in most respects. But if this is your first trip, you might as well do the whirlwind tour just to see what the country can do for you.
I've also wondered why the online gals seem to be weighted to certain cities. It may simply be a case of the gals talking to each other and spreading the word in some places. There are also some cities where there seem to be an overabundance of golddiggers and/or scammers -- and that seems to support my theory. But, as you said in an ealier post, I'm just a moron.
X
While planning my upcoming trip to the land of milk and honey, I couldn't help but notice a very high percentage of girls on DIA are from Cebu and a fairly large number of them from Davao as well. Not nearly as many from Manila. This makes me wonder...why, obviously, and also, will I find my myself spending my whole trip in Cebu and never make it to Manila and Angeles which is my plan? Input please?
Cuba Tourist
05-11-09, 02:11
There are also some cities where there seem to be an overabundance of golddiggers and/or scammers
which places?
Zamboanga Cuba for some strange reason,I actually went there last month,its changed a lot,its now as charmless as its women.
Excellent question because you force me to rethink my post and in some ways eat my words.
For a while, over a year ago, I used Cherry Blossom and I felt that Butaun City and some other northern Mindanao cities (other than CDO) seemed to include a lot of ladies who had sob stories. Some asked for money.
One lady from Butuan I was especially smitten with, but turned out not so receptive once I called her from CDO. First she wanted bus fare, and I said I would pay all transportation costs upon her arrival. She agreed, but then later asked if she could bring three friends.... I declined.
Not long after I left, she fessed up and said she had a fiance. She still posts from CDO, the fiance thing never worked out -- at least not ROMANTICALLY. She may have made a killing FINANCIALLY. She didn't have enough for bus fare, but was online often.
Anyway, my experiences are a bit old and probably overgeneralized. My trip to CDO was very productive with regards to online gals and gals just hanging out.
I haven't used CB for a while.
X
Oh, MNL and AC tend to have some rather bright ladies who want some money. My advice is to NOT discount these ladies outright. They may be receptive to a fair tradeoff of money for slip and dip.
There are also some cities where there seem to be an overabundance of golddiggers and/or scammers
which places?
GregLondon
05-11-09, 11:38
Thank you for the detailed answer. It was very informative. Are these girls that are coming over and know that you want sex expecting money? Do you discuss this upfront?
If so they are P4P just like bar girls, only you find them in a different way. Right? I know you can go to LA Cafe or discos in Thailand and pick up girls and bring them home with you too.
I think you're doing the right thing, being up front and telling them what you want. Why waste your time on a bunch of dinners if she will never sleep with you.
I find the ones that want to be your girl friend don't ask for money up front. They are smart and know that by being your girl friend they will get a lot more money that way.
Girls vary. The more experienced "practical" ones will want to talk about price up front and one can sometimes have a long text conversation haggling them down to something reasonable. Others will just come along and expect you to do the decent thing. Girls just dont want to get cheated. ie have sex wit some old guy for no reward. If its 3 hours for 500P thats OK if its being your GF for a week and you give them 5000P at the end that's OK
Gaijin Gigolo
05-11-09, 11:50
Thanks for the input X Man. This will actually be my second trip but last time I was there for a week and never made it out of Manila. Just want to explore a bit more but certainly without spending a lot of time traveling from point to point. I know where to go and how the game works in Manila so I will return there for the 'sure thing'. But I'll also spend several days in Cebu and plan for two nights in Angeles. As much as I like the sound of the south, I think four cities over two days would leave me traveling and getting acclimated a lot more than I would like.
And as far as the moron comment...we're all morons, dude. At least that's what I've been told. lol!
Gaijin Gig, I've found the southern Philippines preferable to the north in most respects. But if this is your first trip, you might as well do the whirlwind tour just to see what the country can do for you.
I've also wondered why the online gals seem to be weighted to certain cities. It may simply be a case of the gals talking to each other and spreading the word in some places. There are also some cities where there seem to be an overabundance of golddiggers and/or scammers -- and that seems to support my theory. But, as you said in an ealier post, I'm just a moron.
X
I once did a 3/3/3day to MNL/ cebu/ Dv and it was a mistake. Too much time spent in transit, packing bags, etc.
If you never made it out of MNL, you will get a pleasant surprise regradless of what direction you head in.
Have fun.
X
Thanks for the input X Man. This will actually be my second trip but last time I was there for a week and never made it out of Manila. Just want to explore a bit more but certainly without spending a lot of time traveling from point to point. I know where to go and how the game works in Manila so I will return there for the 'sure thing'. But I'll also spend several days in Cebu and plan for two nights in Angeles. As much as I like the sound of the south, I think four cities over two days would leave me traveling and getting acclimated a lot more than I would like.
And as far as the moron comment...we're all morons, dude. At least that's what I've been told. lol!
Gaijin Gigolo
05-11-09, 18:14
I once did a 3/3/3day to MNL/ cebu/ Dv and it was a mistake. Too much time spent in transit, packing bags, etc.
If you never made it out of MNL, you will get a pleasant surprise regradless of what direction you head in.
Have fun.
X
Thanks for the support...that's what I'm thinking too...not only time wasted in transit but also figuring out a new city and where everything is. Will just stick to what I know and add Cebu this time..I'm getting a hell of a lot of hits on DIA and another site or two from that place. Can't wait to meet em. :-)
The Departed
05-12-09, 17:43
http://www.internet-love-scams.org/
http://dragonladies.org/
Here are two interesting sites with lots of pretty scammers. Happy caming:)
Duh, I replied to this post and answered Butuan, but actually i was thinking of Iligan. Sorry for the confusiong.
X
There are also some cities where there seem to be an overabundance of golddiggers and/or scammers
which places?
Cunning Stunt
05-18-09, 06:59
Wonder if he is a ISG member?
After Meeting Mr. S. ********, I THINK I NEED A BREAK FROM CL! - w4m
I knew you swept me off my feet. I could have told you, I wanted to spend the night with you ...be kissed and hugged.
But I knew too, you were just for casual encounters.....and I have to keep the excitement when you were holding my hand and touching my skin while I was drinking red wine. We were so sweet and almost real. We never shared a passionate night ( which I wish we did) yet I will never forget our smiles to each other.
Sadly, it was my first time to be forced by security officers out of a hotel, first time to be asked to stay in a security room. It was really a traumatic experience for someone to meet a guy from CL (and a decent girl at that) has to have scars like this. I asked them if I could talk to you but they showed me your signed statement that you asked the security guards to make me leave and told me that you knew I was held in that room and waht you said was you don't care.
If you check all my ads, I always emphasized that I don't need drama...but I think all women should be treated as ladies even if they were on Casual Encounters.
Well, I think you are in Japan now...don't worry, no plans to stalk....I am just telling all the guys who responded to my ad " NO GAMES, Just Productive and Rewarding Experience for Both of Us".. or my other ad (just guess on WOMEN SEEKING MEN), sorry I might not want to meet again any Caucasian.
It would take time for me to understand what happened Mr. ********* and I know you don't have a heart to care. Is it because you are in the military? Maybe.
Whatever this is, I hope we meet someday in a better and gentlemanly circumstance. I still think you are a good guy and you have your reason to do such actions to me but for now, it will serve me a lot of lessons. Yes, you are right, I should never meet a stranger. You were so nice early that night and what happened....wow, it was just unbelievable.
I am not sure if you can read this message. I just assumed that you checked Craigslist Manila because you were here for 2 days and you were just looking for some NSA.
May you have a good time...I still appreciate your being nice to me on that sweet drinking (wine and water) time ...and you and I talking about our families, past relationships, career and your travels.
Well, I noticed that when I click reply to your emails, it comes back to me saying you have deactivated it. No need, that traumatic night was enough.
Thanks though for the FIRST EXPERIENCE in that security room and making me understand Americans more.
Although we don't know the full story, it is guessable. Why do some guys get off on treating Pinay ladies like shit? If he didn't want her (or she would not put out for him), why not just tell her, instead of taking the cowards way out:(.
GH, from the ladies post she sounds intelligent and level-headed (except for her comment about "Americans").
Nevertheless, we don't know the whole story (as you say). The guy may have had a very good reason to call security. You wrote that the situation is "guessable".
Hmmm, okay, I'll give it a try. He treated her like a prostitute, she got pissed off and made a scene, he threw her out or tried to throw her out. He's an idiot.
Or, she is a prostitute, asked for too much money and he threw her out.
Were you guessing something different?
If you have the time, please ask her to elaborate.
X
Wonder if he is a ISG member?
Although we don't know the full story, it is guessable. Why do some guys get off on treating Pinay ladies like shit? If he didn't want her (or she would not put out for him), why not just tell her, instead of taking the cowards way out:(.
Cunning Stunt
05-19-09, 04:07
Were you guessing something different?
If you have the time, please ask her to elaborate.
X
Not really but maybe you will agree that hiding behind hotel security was a bit of a 'chicken livered' response. But there again the lady might have been reprising Glenn Close's role out of Fatal Attraction. Who is to know? But I suspect either he decided he wasn't into her or she wouldn't put out for him and he wanted rid so that he could go to the next on the list. Just like Lust for Thrust in Cebu recently.
Here's another hilarious real ad from CL Manila. I bet the guy was inundated with replies:D. He even attached a helpful illustrative photo just in case the applicant was unsure about what is required.
I would like to hire a woman, age open, who would be agreeable to simply sit on my face for a prolonged period of time. Approx 2 hours or so once a week ...1000 P an hour. No other requirements, you would be free to watch cable TV, a DVD or perhaps surf online.
Hi to all,
read some post during my lunchbreak. The story of the girl, totally agree we dont know the full story. My comment would be, do they have a security room in SOgo hotels? :D
Some filipina can be really a pain in the ass and dont forget all the scams going on in this country. However I wouldnt consider to take any girl which I would have met for the first time in my place, meaning my home. Once they know you and they like you they stalk you down. Im glad I spent the night with one Manila hooker in a hotel, instead inviting her to my place. She txt me all the time. Good she doesnt know where I really stay. I treat her good, its just that after one night with her I just had enough. Magic was gone and Im not interested any more. I paid her for that, does that make me now a bad guy?
GG, I read your plans for coming over here. 5 days in Manila? Well, you go here and then you will see why mostly all the guys here take the 2 hours challenge and go to AC instead spending one more night in this crowded poluted city.
YOu should stay at Manila, close to Manila bay, Ermita for example. There youu have the LA cafe which is different then the usual barfine experience, because its a free-lance scene. From there you can easily go to Edsa Entertainment and Makati. This can be done at one night.
The big plus in AC is you dont need a cab, you get a trike, jeep or just walk along perimeter/fields. You have a lot of variety in food, cause restaurants run by expats. Its cheaper and even if your a chosy bastard like me , you can find a girl of your liking, either in a bar or along fields which I did last time :D Got 3 gurls who bj all together one hour later in my room :D
WHy we have a lot of DIA girls from the visaya? I assume visayas dont see that much foreigners as you see them in ANgeles city. In DIA you see only little profiles from girls origin from AC. and because I contacted most of them allready you simply forget them fast. Either they stalkers, bargirls or wallflowergirls with many kids who cant get a customer at work(bar) any more.
Pampangan are all crazy anyway.
GG I fully agree with you spending some time in the Visayas to meet the girls over there. Hopefully they jump into bed with you right on the first date. Otherwise you will be loaded and tempted and then find yourself nowhere to go except either really expensive KTV places or the teethless scumbag hooker on the street for 250p :D Both aint my liking, specially if I would be on a holiday.
Im sure you will have a good time in the Philippines, but staying 5 days in Manila, ok well, you will see once you get there :)
Blink
Cunning Stunt
05-22-09, 04:06
Mmmm .... interesting what one can find in ones inbox:).
Hi. I have a proposition for you, though it may sound crazy, I'm for real. A little something about myself, I'm 27 years old and I'm still a virgin. Yes, I'm a virgin but I'm not naive nor innocent, I've had boyfriends before and I do masturbate at times but I've never really done it all the way. You might ask, why I'm doing this? why now?
Suffice it to say, I'm in a financial bind right now and I don't want my family and friends finding out. Yes, I need money. Does that make me into a *****? Maybe, maybe not. I just hope you won't judge me too harshly because to tell you frankly, it took me hours just writing this email, it's hard for me. This is not a scam and obviously i'm no pro.
Btw, let me describe myself to you a bit, as not to waste time. I have shoulder length black hair, dark brown eyes, brown skin tone, 5'3" in height, I weigh 151lbs, I have curves and I'm not petite nor small, so if those are your preferences, please stop reading now and delete this. I'm clean, I drink and smoke socially, I've never done drugs in my entire life and I work in a call center and usually in a graveyard shift.
What I'm proposing is this: 36hours of whatever its is you have in mind, please no weird stuffs like bondage or whatever, also that 36 hours I hope we'll just stay in one part of Metro Manila, no out of town or something and I would also demand discretion, as i have a lot of relatives and friends in the metro. The amount I need is $2,000. You must be thinking, that it's too much, yes, maybe it is, but it's the amount that i need, not want.
I think scam but she provided a Philippine CP No. So maybe not.
Any rich punters who out there like a supposedly intact BBW as a personal sex slave?
Mmmm .... interesting what one can find in ones inbox:).
I think scam but she provided a Philippine CP No. So maybe not.
Any rich punters who out there like a supposedly intact BBW as a personal sex slave?
At least she offered you pussy....
Mmmm .... interesting what one can find in ones inbox:).
I think scam but she provided a Philippine CP No. So maybe not.
Any rich punters who out there like a supposedly intact BBW as a personal sex slave?
ahahahaha,
2.000 US ahahahaha, for 36 hours LOL. Well, I prefer my new 18 year young GF, virgin, (I let her belive she is even I have my doubts but lets see)no drugs, slim, 5"6, firm breast and curvey, performing BJ.
Totally cost to keep her. New samsung cp, 500 to 1000p when she visits me, to support her with her schooling.
I know some girls in the 24 years age, asking me for 10.000p. Am Im going to meet them? SImple Answer: NO! NO! NO!
Its fun to f..ck, but it aint fun to pay that kind of money, specially not for some callcentergirl. DIA got plenty of them for free!!
Blink out for coffee
FreebieFan
05-22-09, 05:24
Mmmm. Interesting what one can find in ones inbox.
I think scam but she provided a Philippine CP No. So maybe not.
Any rich punters who out there like a supposedly intact BBW as a personal sex slave? If a Filipina admits to being 151 punds you can bet she is. The young cute slim ones have no idea of wieght not having bathroom scales, but the older ones know they can't lie.
This is one VERY big woman.
Manny Paquiou might be the best pound for pound fighter. But this woman has got serious pound for dollar credentials.
Must be inflation or something. I can remember being offered nice looking 18 year old virgins for 50k pesos a few years ago. Now a BBW virgin who wants close to 100k pesos for a romp? Once one has taken her, she's not a virgin anymore so the 100k is for that first pop, the rest is just sloppy seconds as with regular girls. What fool is going to give her that? And how would he know she hasn't fooled around already? Sheesh what are they thinking?
Frequent Flier
05-22-09, 21:30
That is an often thought about issue for me.
The term BBW is so loosely used. It really has become another word for "fat" or a nice way to say one is fat or over weight.
Does a ugly chubby girl become a BBW because she reached a certain weight? It seems so. Shazzam! I just went from ugly chubby to BBW because I finally reached 180 pounds.
I have talked to girls in the USA on chat lines. Chat lines are a way to hook up in the USA for pay for play. Phone dating services is a way they hide what most people use the service for. Some girls on these chat lines use the BBW word, but also describe themselves as "thick". This has become another word for "fat" is what I discovered.
Now I have seen BBW and I have seen thick girls. But every girl with a weight issue no matter how large of a problem thinks they fall in one of these two categories.
I have talked to girls who will say that they are 5'2" and weigh 175 pounds and that they are thick not fat and that it is all in the right places. NOT!
"It is all in the right places" That is another way that fat girls describe themselves. If you are 175 and 5'2" it would appear that you do not have enough spaces for all that you have. That is the problem.
Just venting here. A little soap boxing.
I'm just glad you usually do not have that problem in the Philippines. It does happen, but not as often as in the USA and probably other western societies, but I'm not knowledgeable if it is world wide.
FF
Mmmm .... interesting what one can find in ones inbox:).
I think scam but she provided a Philippine CP No. So maybe not.
Any rich punters who out there like a supposedly intact BBW as a personal sex slave?
So, was it good:D
Did you ask for a photo?
Cunning Stunt
05-23-09, 06:05
Whether they are BBS’s or FFF’s (Fat F****** Filipinas), size 12+ girls are most grateful for some loving attention and affection and are sitting fat ducks for freebies, if you enjoy chubby girls. Filipinos can be extra cruel and mocking to those who are slightly different from the norm and are not afraid voicing it. The 150+ lb girl, trying to market her supposed virginity, would have great difficulty giving it away to a local boy, which is why she is trying to sell it to a gullible foreigner.
But fat girls, as I say, can be very grateful and good fun. I met one a couple of week’s ago, that was a case in point. She looked pleasantly chubby and cuddly on her photos on Tagged but she did warn me that she had had put on a little weight since they were taken. And she was not fucking joking! I arranged to see her near McDonalds (danger bells) in a nearby mall. When I saw her, I very nearly turned tail and did one on my toes but I’m made of sterner stuff so pressed on. I think that she must have just lost her job as a test pilot for Jolibee’s – such was the rapt attention that she was gazing at the diners in the fast food joint. She was a well rounded lass – about 5’ 2” and weighing in at 150-60 lbs. She was one of the first Filipinas, in The Philippines, that I had seen wearing those elasticated leggings which are the standard dress of porkies in UK and the States. But she had a pretty face and her bulk was well proportioned.
I bought her a Big Mac with extra fries/upsized drink and one of those disgusting ice cream desserts that McDonalds do so badly. She was mine forever! She told me a little about herself. She was a student nurse, from Bicol, 20 years old and living with her aunt. She showed me a photo of herself taken 3 years before, which was of a beautiful, tight bodied little spinner and swore that it was her. Sad. She lost her virginity at age 18 to a Chinese guy and had not had sex in 6 months (with a fuck buddy – her words). She was bisexual and had a girlfriend. She loved her pussy being licked and her favorite position was doggy. Funny what a girl will divulge when treated to a Big Mac meal.
She readily agreed to a visit to a nearby ST hotel and I steeled myself for a bit of adipose surfing (slap the thighs and ride the waves …yeehaw). And it was great fun. She quickly warmed up under ministration from my wandering tongue and screamed like a good ‘un. I discovered that she was fond of doggy because she could then reach under and play with her love button whilst been pounded. So I showed her how to use my finger vibe and she was in seventh heaven. Due possibly to the size of her arse or her slippery, well lubricated pussy, I kept sliding out of her. Silly me, on reentering, I repeatedly chose the wrong hole. First 2 time, I rectified my mistake under her protests. Third time she said nothing so I just ‘went boldly in where no man had been before’ and pounded her ass, which, from the noises that she was making, was a new sensation that she was finding not at all unpleasant. Either that or else she was having such fun with the vibe that she didn’t care. She was a little embarrassed and rueful, later, about losing her ass cherry but said that it was a strange but thrilling sensation. Yet another convert. This, she said, was the second cherry that she had lost that afternoon as earlier I had come a wad in her mouth. Wicked me, depraving yet another young girl.
She must have really enjoyed her afternoon romp as I have had many emails, from her, requesting a repeat. Which I will do sometime, but FFF’s are an acquired taste, and one that I enjoy, but just not all that often.
Here’s a few photos but no full face shots, obviously. Please don’t view unless you like big girls.
Nice post G. Reminded me of my recent encounter with a not so LBFM who flew from RP to be with me for a few days. See post 1705 thru 1708 in China Photo Gallery.
One pic attached here of my not so little pigglette.
Your observations about their desires are, IMOHO, very accurate.
ES
FreebieFan
05-25-09, 00:58
Whether they are BBS’s or FFF’s (Fat F****** Filipinas), size 12+ girls are most grateful for some loving attention and affection and are sitting fat ducks for freebies, if you enjoy chubby girls. Filipinos can be extra cruel and mocking to those who are slightly different from the norm and are not afraid voicing it. The 150+ lb girl, trying to market her supposed virginity, would have great difficulty giving it away to a local boy, which is why she is trying to sell it to a gullible foreigner.
But fat girls, as I say, can be very grateful and good fun. I met one a couple of week’s ago, that was a case in point. She looked pleasantly chubby and cuddly on her photos on Tagged but she did warn me that she had had put on a little weight since they were taken. And she was not fucking joking! I arranged to see her near McDonalds (danger bells) in a nearby mall. When I saw her, I very nearly turned tail and did one on my toes but I’m made of sterner stuff so pressed on. I think that she must have just lost her job as a test pilot for Jolibee’s – such was the rapt attention that she was gazing at the diners in the fast food joint. She was a well rounded lass – about 5’ 2” and weighing in at 150-60 lbs. She was one of the first Filipinas, in The Philippines, that I had seen wearing those elasticated leggings which are the standard dress of porkies in UK and the States. But she had a pretty face and her bulk was well proportioned.
Here’s a few photos but no full face shots, obviously. Please don’t view unless you like big girls.Well done Sir. I've gone down the "fat route" a few times myself. Groaned when they got in my car and saw that they were supersized, but if they come with a good attitude then its also led to some entertaining afternoons. Had one recently tho and she wouldn't take off the towel. She was clearly embarassed and as we were drunk and in the hotel fI igured we may as well go thru with it. We both knew it was once and once only. LOL
Enjoyed reading the GH post about fff,
Had an LA Cafe hippo offer all night for 500 pesos. I declined.
Out in the province, I had a smiling chubby wade across the river and ask me over to her place. Hmmm.
Chubby, tubbyfuking should be free if you play your cards right. I personally prefer slim and trim, but everyone should expand their horizons.
I met a few chat friends that were heavier than expected, and it really tore my heart the way they looked at me with their pleading eyes. I did not succumb to their desires, as the weak and irresponsible GH did!!!
I directed them to the food court and kept pointing at vegetables. When they expressed a desire for pork, I suggested chicken.
When they begged for me to take them home, I suggested we go for a jog instead.
X
That is the opinion of the spamhog who perfers smaller, tighter and rounder ladies. On the occassions that I had fat or pudgy girls, I found their oral skills were superb. Perhaps it has something to do with eating, putting things in their mouth and a constant love of food but fat girls give the best head and are the most enthusiastic about it by far, I have never had to coax or convince a fat girl to do the deed, not like some of their thinner sisters, most eagerly grab, attach lips and the rest is history.
I recall a rather corpulent filipina damsel in Singapore who was very english articulate and mature for her 22 years, I thought, ahhh astiff one, probably frigid. Boy was I wrong, she loved giving (and recieving) oral and she was a swallower to boot.
There is also something pleasant about dogging a hefty maiden with a plump rump.
So don't overlook the larger ladies, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Spamhog
I pulled some real gems from CB and lately from Date-in-Asia.
As I was busy with other things, I deleted my account at DIA 3 months ago. Now I am unable to create a new account or to re-activate my old account: "You are Banned" Why? no one of those uebermenschen at DIA has the curtesy to reply my mails.
Anyway, which other site is free as DIA?? CB, FH...on all those sites you have to pay once you want to reply.
MongerManiac
06-04-09, 14:11
I pulled some real gems from CB and lately from Date-in-Asia.
As I was busy with other things, I deleted my account at DIA 3 months ago. Now I am unable to create a new account or to re-activate my old account: "You are Banned" Why? no one of those uebermenschen at DIA has the curtesy to reply my mails.
Anyway, which other site is free as DIA?? CB, FH...on all those sites you have to pay once you want to reply.If you want to have another account at DIA, just use a different email address to the one you previously used on your 'you are banned' account.
If you want to have another account at DIA, just use a different email address to the one you previously used on your 'you are banned' account.
Also a different ISP.
Also a different ISP.
I did both already before ...didnt work
I think I have to clear my cookies also. Perhaps their program is not only identifying the IP and e mail but the old log-in cookies as well.
Still...any other free site, boys?
Seems DIA got a very smart program>
New e-mail adress, different IP, different PC with cookies cleaned, different name and password - still I get the "banned" message. I am a really dated criminal...lol
Any hacker can enlighten me, why this shit happens?
Seems DIA got a very smart program>
New e-mail adress, different IP, different PC with cookies cleaned, different name and password - still I get the "banned" message. I am a really dated criminal...lol
Any hacker can enlighten me, why this shit happens?Try different location (far from original location); register there and then go home again and log in your new account.
Chocolate Chip
06-06-09, 05:01
Try different location (far from original location); register there and then go home again and log in your new account.That's what I would suggest.
What you are experiencing makes no sense at all. Using another PC and getting a new IP adress should have done it, unless, your real IP has not changed. This will be the case if using a router or you have a static (non-changing IP). So are you sure it changed? If you do a Google on "What is my IP", many sites wil come up where you can check your real IP (the one seen by the outside world).
If you are using a router, changing PCs will not change your real IP, because it is in the the router. In turn, the router will give each of your PCs a different address (like 192.168.xxx.xxx). But, the site in question only sees the IP of the router.
If you find that you do have a router and the IP did not change, you can try to force it (this won't work if your ISP assigned you a static IP). Turn off your modem for about 10 secs (if DSL) or a few days (if cable) and you should be able to have a new IP assigned to the router.
If this was not your problem, then I am stumped.
GregLondon
06-06-09, 05:09
I did both already before ...didnt work
I think I have to clear my cookies also. Perhaps their program is not only identifying the IP and e mail but the old log-in cookies as well.
Still...any other free site, boys?
Tagged is almost as effective. Its a bit less intuitive but you can search for girls by location and age bracket. filter for those interesetd in dating if you want, then use the brwse button and send a copy/pasted message to those that you are interested in. Depending on what you say/ what uyoiu loo like etc, you can get up to a 50% respsone
Frequent Flier
06-06-09, 09:49
That is the opinion of the spamhog who perfers smaller, tighter and rounder ladies. On the occassions that I had fat or pudgy girls, I found their oral skills were superb. Perhaps it has something to do with eating, putting things in their mouth and a constant love of food but fat girls give the best head and are the most enthusiastic about it by far, I have never had to coax or convince a fat girl to do the deed, not like some of their thinner sisters, most eagerly grab, attach lips and the rest is history.
I recall a rather corpulent filipina damsel in Singapore who was very english articulate and mature for her 22 years, I thought, ahhh astiff one, probably frigid. Boy was I wrong, she loved giving (and recieving) oral and she was a swallower to boot.
There is also something pleasant about dogging a hefty maiden with a plump rump.
So don't overlook the larger ladies, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Spamhog
I agree. The uglier the better the sex. They know they have to perform to get you to take interest or come back for more. A girl that is a looker rather it is her face, body or both knows she can get action with her looks. The BBW or whatever type you have is sure they will have to perform to have any further interaction.
FF
Frequent Flier
06-08-09, 00:51
Wow, I'm surprised by this report. I thought the reason we travel here from destinations like Shitville, North Carolina is to get away from these porkers. Anyway, to each their own. I'll stick with the 90 pound spinners any day. Otherwise, I'd be better off picking up on some white swine on Match.com and saving the travel expense. Personally, I'm not into "uglier".
My experience with the girls of a larger stature and their desire to perform better in bed is from my experience in the USA. Uglier does not mean ugly, just not as attractive as others available. There is always a pecking order.
Yes, I travel to the lands of LBFM for the same reason. To have a plethora of petite girls and to not have to deal with all the other hang ups with sex in the USA.
Besides JS, I do recall a recent post of yours where you took a certain boxer home that was a "little thicker" than you like. Per my original post the term "thick" has become another moniker for fat. I'm sure your conquest was actually really thick as there is nothing wrong with a thick girl. It is the fat girls that refer to themselves as "thick" that has me bothered, but that only happens in the USA that I know of.
Funny you mention NC in your post as that is where I'm from. Not shitsville, NC, but close. Shitville=UNC
Wondering if anyone has had any experiences meeting Filipinas on the Web Cam Sites. I met a 28 year old a little over 3 years ago on My Free Cams, after a lot of chat (and a few dollars her way) I decided to go to PI to meet her. (I've been going there since the early '70's so no newbie to the area). Got to the airport and no sign of her, called her cell phone and she had already checked into the Hotel I'd booked. Got a taxi to the Hotel and there she was waiting in the room. Little awkward for me at first since I'm used to the pros in PI, however it came together pretty quick. Bottom line is we really hit it off and I'm still making yearly trips down there to meet her and every trip is great. BTW she no longer works on MFC, she has a couple other sources of income, one includes me which is no problem since I can afford it, but just a token amount once and a while. As long as I've been doing the pros in PI, this one is head and shoulders above them and dynamite in bed.
GregLondon
06-19-09, 05:34
I've been in the Phils for almost 3 months now and have spent my time exclusively with girls from the dating sites or their friends. A couple of the best girls I have do web camming as a "sideline" It can be quite profitable, a good one can hope to make 1-2k per night on average which beats working at Jollybees for 6000P a month. Generally this is combined with seeking guys who will support them by sending a few thousand a month or paying tuition etc.
Some of the web cam girls are only doing it because they don't like sex for real, but for others it's just convenient and fun. These girls can be amongst the most sexy and open minded in bed as obviously doing web cams for a while rapidly opens the girls mind to various sexual possibilities.
Wondering if anyone has had any experiences meeting Filipinas on the Web Cam Sites. I met a 28 year old a little over 3 years ago on My Free Cams, after a lot of chat (and a few dollars her way) I decided to go to PI to meet her. (I've been going there since the early '70's so no newbie to the area). Got to the airport and no sign of her, called her cell phone and she had already checked into the Hotel I'd booked. Got a taxi to the Hotel and there she was waiting in the room. Little awkward for me at first since I'm used to the pros in PI, however it came together pretty quick. Bottom line is we really hit it off and I'm still making yearly trips down there to meet her and every trip is great. BTW she no longer works on MFC, she has a couple other sources of income, one includes me which is no problem since I can afford it, but just a token amount once and a while. As long as I've been doing the pros in PI, this one is head and shoulders above them and dynamite in bed.
Wondering if anyone has had any experiences meeting Filipinas on the Web Cam Sites. I met a 28 year old a little over 3 years ago on My Free Cams, after a lot of chat (and a few dollars her way) I decided to go to PI to meet her. (I've been going there since the early '70's so no newbie to the area). Got to the airport and no sign of her, called her cell phone and she had already checked into the Hotel I'd booked. Got a taxi to the Hotel and there she was waiting in the room. Little awkward for me at first since I'm used to the pros in PI, however it came together pretty quick. Bottom line is we really hit it off and I'm still making yearly trips down there to meet her and every trip is great. BTW she no longer works on MFC, she has a couple other sources of income, one includes me which is no problem since I can afford it, but just a token amount once and a while. As long as I've been doing the pros in PI, this one is head and shoulders above them and dynamite in bed.
How did she check into the hotel you booked?
There is no way the reception will check her in unless she booked the hotel and put the deposit down. It is possible that you sent her lots of money.
Who would loose a cash cow or in this case a heifer ?
I know some girls who are studying doing this cam thing. Some days they hang around LA cafe. Isn't it funny about philippino girls always studying ?
Just because they are cam girls does not mean they are normal girls who does not ***** on the side or maybe full time. But it is all about sex. If any girl gives you the ride of your life better keep her irrespective of her morality. That is why we all monger in the first place.
How did she check into the hotel you booked?
There is no way the reception will check her in unless she booked the hotel and put the deposit down. It is possible that you sent her lots of money.
Who would loose a cash cow or in this case a heifer ?
I know some girls who are studying doing this cam thing. Some days they hang around LA cafe. Isn't it funny about philippino girls always studying ?
Just because they are cam girls does not mean they are normal girls who does not ***** on the side or maybe full time. But it is all about sex. If any girl gives you the ride of your life better keep her irrespective of her morality. That is why we all monger in the first place.That isn't always true. If you are a regular and they know you, they will pass the key upon your request. I do it all the time and as a matter of fact, I am doing that tonight. She arrives from Davao at 4:00 pm and I will not arrive until 6:00 pm. The hotel already has my request to pass her a key and they will.
Robb
How did she check into the hotel you booked?
I had put her name on the reservation along with mine, payment for the room was already guaranteed by my Credit Card when I made the reservation so the hotel apparently didn't have a problem (although they asked her for a 1000 Peso deposit which was deducted from the final bill and yes. I paid her back).
First, it seem odd to require a cash deposit after a credit card was used.
I tend to be a cash guy...
Some cities in the Philippines seem to require cash deposits upon check in and others do not. I haven't kept track of such things, but pretty sure the Manila hotels want deposits.
X
I had put her name on the reservation along with mine, payment for the room was already guaranteed by my Credit Card when I made the reservation so the hotel apparently didn't have a problem (although they asked her for a 1000 Peso deposit which was deducted from the final bill and yes. I paid her back).
Member #4491
06-22-09, 17:03
Some cities in the Philippines seem to require cash deposits upon check in and others do not. I haven't kept track of such things, but pretty sure the Manila hotels want deposits.
XI had to deposit in all hotels I visited in Davao as well. Around 15 hotels ranging from 800 peso-rooms to Marco Polo. And they often staple the money to a piece of paper with my info on it.
Barba
I had put her name on the reservation along with mine, payment for the room was already guaranteed by my Credit Card when I made the reservation so the hotel apparently didn't have a problem (although they asked her for a 1000 Peso deposit which was deducted from the final bill and yes. I paid her back).
There is a special rate for Philippino citizens. It is called balikbayan rate.
If you know the girl very well she can book the hotel at that rate. And she can deposit 1000 pesos and check in and wait for you.
FreebieFan
06-26-09, 08:19
Those sweet young ladies on DIA who we all chase with great haste and abandon just dont seem to know what their weight is.
One young gal, who clearly was on the small and slim side , when questioned by me as to whether she really was the 175 pounds she stated said " well i dont know my weight so I asked my sister who is very fat and deducted a few pounds".
Well aside from the fact the said sister must be seriously big, I advised her that putting her weight as 100 pounds, would get an awful lot more DIA activity than 175 pounds.
Her response was a small thank you.
Told her later Id tell her who it was incorrect on her profile to state she was " caucasian.". You gotta love it.
Filipina Hearts
I would like to thank BL for blessing me with this site. Much better then the rest. Lot of hits once I found out how to unhide myself LOL. One money scammer so far. Told me she was going to sale her virginity but she did not want to do so. I told her I would buy it. Should have seen her damn face (on cam) "She thought I was going to say no don't do that I will help you." LOL.
Two fake photos. Had one girl tell me she was model. OK. Had one girl tell me she just look dark now because of the light. I wonder has she fooled anyone with this?
Met one girl who said I was nice and sweet. She asked what I like In a woman. I said one who can support herself financially. Right after that in her words I was mean and immature. LOL.
Have met two that I would not mine just kicking it with. Real sweet one works for a Filipino Congressman and the other some type of HR assistant. No sex shit but they got their own money and seem cool as a fan the type of lady Ill digs. Still have not landed one yet that looks better then my live in GF in the looks department. There are some on there that are knocks-out but they tend not to reply. LOL
Lot of nice girls I have met. Average in the looks department. Guys if you are about a playing house or looking for marriage definitely a good site. I have also met a couple of "fun girls" too. Still way too much trouble when you can just go in the bar pay the tab, fuck sleep and go home.
Some guys will say well its conquest of sleeping with a non bar girl but are you really conquering something when the girl is poor as all hell and hoping your foreign ass might fall in love and marry her? I see if she just a fun girl and tell you she just looking for fun have met two of those so far. One old and one I might just take her up on the offer. I am only checking for the ones with jobs and degrees not pressed for cash. When they hit me I take a quick glance of the profile. Don't see what I like I bounce.
Another thing I have noticed the girls around Manila are harder to get. Most of the girls that hit me are really dark in complexion not what I personally like. I keep getting hits from girls with fucking Bamboo huts in the background provincial type. Sorry my Black ass is not about to walking in some dark provincial town in Nike's just for some unguaranteed ass.
All and all I think it is a good site if you just want to get away from the bar scene for while but me no luck with these sites guess I am just to choosy :D
GoodEnough
06-30-09, 10:35
You know Illogic, I like your writing style--part hiphop, part Maya Angelou maybe, part philosophy and part cinema verite. Keep it up, you're one of the most interesting guys on the forum and I like the fresh eye with which you look at everything and your perceptions of the whole Manila scene.
GE
You know Illogic, I like your writing style--part hiphop, part Maya Angelou maybe, part philosophy and part cinema verite. Keep it up, you're one of the most interesting guys on the forum and I like the fresh eye with which you look at everything and your perceptions of the whole Manila scene.
GEHi GE,
I really must admit I like your style a lot.- nothing against Illogics writing style of course, I fully agree with you-- and I think you are a wise man looking at others who sometimes lack wisdom and even more, humanity.
Thanks a million
Hw1940
GE, always seeing the rosy side - I envy you for that.
I've often been irritated by Illogic, his different personas and sometimes over the top brashesness and braggadario. But at the same time, I've enjoyed his different perspectives and style.
These various personalities on the NET communicate and clash, but in the end, we really don't know jack shit about each other unless we meet face to face.
Thanks for your perspective. GE, the Obi Wan Kinobi of PI ISG. ....Or maybe he is YODA. :-)
X
You know Illogic, I like your writing style--part hiphop, part Maya Angelou maybe, part philosophy and part cinema verite. Keep it up, you're one of the most interesting guys on the forum and I like the fresh eye with which you look at everything and your perceptions of the whole Manila scene.
GE
ShadowAxis
06-30-09, 16:58
Frankly, I am not a fan of Illogic's style. I am not at all interested in trying to decode it. Not really a race / color thing. I would be just as annoyed if someone was posting in Shakespearean English. It's annoying, and sort of a pain in the ass to muddle through.
However. He covers a lot of ground, and I certainly appreciate the substance over the style.
You know Illogic, I like your writing style--part hiphop, part Maya Angelou maybe, part philosophy and part cinema verite. Keep it up, you're one of the most interesting guys on the forum and I like the fresh eye with which you look at everything and your perceptions of the whole Manila scene.
GE
You know Illogic, I like your writing style--part hiphop, part Maya Angelou maybe, part philosophy and part cinema verite. Keep it up, you're one of the most interesting guys on the forum and I like the fresh eye with which you look at everything and your perceptions of the whole Manila scene.
GE
Thanks for the props GE. You are probably the most respected guy on the PI boards and one of the most respected on ISG in general.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=props
PS: Not PI related but a warning. An ISG monger has just been outed on the China General Info Thread with his real name, email and phone #, photo etc being broadcasted here. :eek:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=938
Guys watch how much information you put online. Especially when chatting.
This is why the fuck I don't even give WGs my real name. WOW!
Member #4351
07-06-09, 14:59
Illogic,
The link to the China thread was interesting and worrying. Thanks for posting it.
FreebieFan
07-07-09, 00:45
Thanks for the props GE. You are probably the most respected guy on the PI boards and one of the most respected on ISG in general.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=props
PS: This is why the fuck I don't even give WGs my real name. WOW!Years ago I invented a bar name for myself (if bar girls can have a bar name why shouldn't I? )
Since then I; ve walked down Burgos many times with ladies who know my real Christian name and they always ask why the door people are shouting out my bar name at me. I tell them maybe they mistake me for someone else. The fun and lies we get into.
FreebieFan
07-08-09, 03:42
From DIA "My name is Jingle and I have three kids, 3. 2 yrs old and the third one is coming. July is the due date of my pregnancy. I registered here to hopefully find my new love"
I guess theres guys out there in InternetLand who would be happy with a slim and tasty 22 year old. Even wih 3 kids in tow. Damn she has been BUSY.
Cunning Stunt
07-08-09, 07:05
Lots of Maieusiophiles out there who will probably inundate her inbox. Not for me though - jinking about atop a beached whale does nothing for my libido:D.
Jingle is an appropriate name. Stick your bell end in her poor abused snatch and it would probably chime as it bounced off the sides!
FreebieFan
07-13-09, 09:24
So there I was at 7am in my office checking emails etc.. when I get a message on DIA " did I want to have some dirty fun, from an 18 year old in Cebu. Replied yes probably and next thing is shes sending me message on YM.
Then she sends me her cam invite and shes an ok looking 18 year old I guess.. Mom in background holding a baby ( probably hers ).. and by 7.05 shes saying " I can get naked and make you come ".. meanwhile mom is still in background. I even think I saw Dad hovering around.
Girl says the usual " if you want to see me naked have to help me " etc.
I left and went back to work but if brothers want to see this girl her name in DIA is Megasedon and YM [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Hey,
Has anybody hooked up with the girl called "madonna gwapa" in Cebu, thru DIA? I had a look at her page, not a bad looker, she seems to be pretty cluey, and is very honest about what she is looking for (to accompany western guys on their holidays, for a fee no doubt.) I had a look at her friendster photos, and she looks pretty good in a swimsuit. I've asked to have a look at her private photos (titled "a bit naughty" or something), but haven't heard back yet. I'm not likely to have free time in Cebu anytime soon (I'm limited to maybe one night every couple of years in Manila, if travelling at a different time to my wife when visiting her family), so if anybody tries her out, please let us all know how it went.
Taster
GregLondon
07-20-09, 09:45
Hey,
Has anybody hooked up with the girl called "madonna gwapa" in Cebu, thru DIA? I had a look at her page, not a bad looker, she seems to be pretty cluey, and is very honest about what she is looking for (to accompany western guys on their holidays, for a fee no doubt.) I had a look at her friendster photos, and she looks pretty good in a swimsuit. I've asked to have a look at her private photos (titled "a bit naughty" or something), but haven't heard back yet. I'm not likely to have free time in Cebu anytime soon (I'm limited to maybe one night every couple of years in Manila, if travelling at a different time to my wife when visiting her family), so if anybody tries her out, please let us all know how it went.
Taster
Yes, I've met Madonna several times. She is a very nice girl - honest and straightforward and sets out on her profile exactly what she is looking for without any hidden agenda. The pics on her profile are recent so you can decide for yourself whether you find her attractive or not. She has a cute enough face and the type of body (slim, petite but with big boobs) that many guys love. If you are a decent guy and she likes you she is very sexy and passionate. She's not a hooker and isn't going to let you see the private photos.
Like most girls on DIA her main aim is to get a Western guy to marry her and take her to live with him in the West. For a guy looking for a cute young Filipina to marry she would be a pretty good candidate, if you like those type of looks and are not looking for a university educated college girl type. She has a very small family (just her mum really) so you wouldn't have to provide for the huge numbers of hangers on that is the issue with most Filipinas. I spent 3 months in the Philippines and was amazed at how many Western guys chose to marry fat and not very good looking Filipina girls when the likes of Madonna are available.
She is pretty down to earth and straight forward and knows that any sensible guy would want to spend quite a bit of time with her before making a decision about marriage so is happy to go on holiday etc so that you can get to know each other. She doesn't talk about money but lost her job in an electronics factory a few months ago so needs to support herself plus her mum so of course if you spend time with her you should give her an appropriate financial compensation. She gets alot of interest through DIA so has to be selective about who she replies to. If you are a married guy just looking for a days fun some time in the distant future, it would be a waste of time for her, so I doubt if she will be interested in you.
Did you help her write her profile? I'd say even a uni educated Filipina would be hard pressed to put together such a well-written profile. Possible, but not likely. Nothing wrong with that...just curious.
X
Yes, I've met Madonna several times. She is a very nice girl - honest and straightforward and sets out on her profile exactly what she is looking for without any hidden agenda. The pics on her profile are recent so you can decide for yourself whether you find her attractive or not. She has a cute enough face and the type of body (slim, petite but with big boobs) that many guys love. If you are a decent guy and she likes you she is very sexy and passionate. She's not a hooker and isn't going to let you see the private photos.
Like most girls on DIA her main aim is to get a Western guy to marry her and take her to live with him in the West. For a guy looking for a cute young Filipina to marry she would be a pretty good candidate, if you like those type of looks and are not looking for a university educated college girl type. She has a very small family (just her mum really) so you wouldn't have to provide for the huge numbers of hangers on that is the issue with most Filipinas. I spent 3 months in the Philippines and was amazed at how many Western guys chose to marry fat and not very good looking Filipina girls when the likes of Madonna are available.
She is pretty down to earth and straight forward and knows that any sensible guy would want to spend quite a bit of time with her before making a decision about marriage so is happy to go on holiday etc so that you can get to know each other. She doesn't talk about money but lost her job in an electronics factory a few months ago so needs to support herself plus her mum so of course if you spend time with her you should give her an appropriate financial compensation. She gets alot of interest through DIA so has to be selective about who she replies to. If you are a married guy just looking for a days fun some time in the distant future, it would be a waste of time for her, so I doubt if she will be interested in you.
GregLondon
07-21-09, 04:11
Did you help her write her profile? I'd say even a uni educated Filipina would be hard pressed to put together such a well-written profile. Possible, but not likely. Nothing wrong with that...just curious.
X
Yes I edited it/helped her write it. The basic ideas and who she wants etc are hers but as you point out it would be next to impossible for a girl educated in the Phils to write such text.
GregLondon
07-21-09, 04:43
Yes I edited it/helped her write it. The basic ideas and who she wants etc are hers but as you point out it would be next to impossible for a girl educated in the Phils to write such text.
Actually the text is of secondary importance on DIA, I don't think more than 5% of guys read it. I met her more or less by accident. She had a blurry picture on DIA taken with a friend's camera phone so was getting 2 or 3 responses a month. I couldn't believe my luck when she showed up with such a fantastic figure and nice attitude. As soon as she uploaded a nice bikini shot she was getting messages every few minutes. This being DIA most of them are of course time wasters, but I believe she has got a few who seem seriously interested. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she doesn't get an offer of marriage within a year.
Cunning Stunt
07-21-09, 07:12
Greg ...man, you are such a sport. Many guys here would have kept such an obvious cutey very much to themselves;).
I am surprised, given the paranoiac inclination of certain members, that you have not been accused of being Taster as well!
GregLondon
07-21-09, 08:55
Greg ...man, you are such a sport. Many guys here would have kept such an obvious cutey very much to themselves;).
I am surprised, given the paranoiac inclination of certain members, that you have not been accused of being Taster as well!
Many thanks CS. Yes I know many guys are complete idiots, I've seen some of the emails they write. Many are paranoidly jealous or suspicious that they are being scammed and so end up missing out on good opportunities. Too bad for them. My moto is: Give and you shall receive. If a girl is honest, genuine and nice I am usually the same to her. More often than not this results in introductions to meet her friends and cousins and I end up fucking them too. At one point I managed to have 8 cute 18-21 year old Filipinas in my room. Got quite a few astonished looks from the hotel receptionist.
Traveller22
07-25-09, 07:50
I posted this message first in the Manila thread but I think this thread is much more convenient.
I am wondering how can you be completely honest and straightforward on your intentions on dating or social sites like DIA-Tagged-FH etc… Most Filipina girls here are seemingly looking only after serious-long term relationships. One of the most recurrent sentences I’ve read is against the “men who play games”.
Do you specify anyway directly on your profile or when you contact them that you are interested only on short term or “friends with benefits” kind of relations? In this case, does it not reduce dramatically your answer’s rate, if you get any answers at all?
I would be very grateful if great freebies specialists like freebiefan, greglondon and others could give some advices on this question.
Cheers
First of all they may say they are looking for serious long term relationship but in truth the vast majority are happy enough if someone takes the time and effort to meet them in person. Its not often you meet and don't get laid
Personally I spend a bit of time chatting and getting to know them before I visit. Some I have talked to fairly quickly move from "God fearing" or "no players" to horny as hell.
Yes there are times when you need to offload as you see the conversation is not going in the direction we require.
Always remember they are playing the same game as us!!
I posted this message first in the Manila thread but I think this thread is much more convenient.
I am wondering how can you be completely honest and straightforward on your intentions on dating or social sites like DIA-Tagged-FH etc… Most Filipina girls here are seemingly looking only after serious-long term relationships. One of the most recurrent sentences I’ve read is against the “men who play games”.
Do you specify anyway directly on your profile or when you contact them that you are interested only on short term or “friends with benefits” kind of relations? In this case, does it not reduce dramatically your answer’s rate, if you get any answers at all?
I would be very grateful if great freebies specialists like freebiefan, greglondon and others could give some advices on this question.
Cheers
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hosser
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=899226&postcount=4301
I asked this question in public view to “I am a monger” Sammon LOL… but he never responded. Some guys on this forum “claim” they are upfront with the girls but I have been around Filipinas for while now (well not as long as most of you as I am not that old) and if they are not whoring or the ***** type outright telling them you just looking to get your dick wet doesn’t fly in most cases.
Now if she is impoverished the ***** type, naive (low intelligence) and desperate for some cash I am sure some things can be arranged as anywhere on earth. The conditions have to be right.
Member #4491
07-25-09, 09:16
Traveler22,
I am quite honest in my advertisements and I meet lots of girls still. I am picky and prefer girls 18-23 years. Honesty can also be a strength since there is so many foreigners filling the girls with crap to get into their knickers. I put the cards on the table in a gentle way within the first minutes of chatting. Many 100% normal and lovely Pinays are definitely interested in just a casual bf/love story. My cards are not very helpfull, I assure you but still I meet many lovely girls. SOme get gifts, of course and other just tag along to beaches and resorts. Nothing is ever totally free. Many of them maybe nurse a hope somewhere deep inside that whatever relation is there will evolve to something more stable, but still I do not get much pressure on this topic. Just waiting for woman to contact you is never good in any culture. Be active and sell your story of "a honest and frank guy that want to meet a lovely and happy girl for some leisure activities".
No point though in being foolishly honest and tell girls about your every move and intention thought. If you make arrangements to have 2 girls a day and is totally frank with this you end up with scammers, pims and ladyboys. But this goes without saying, I guess.
One approach to this "problem" I find suitable is to mention that you wish to have a "pretty and warm girl to guide you for a couple of days in city X and the surroundings". Most pinays know the concept of reading between the lines.
Cheers Barba!
Great question, but there is no right answer. You have to follow your own moral compass.
As for me...my moral compass just spins around and around. I'm not sure why.
If an online ad is too negative, i give it a pass. On the few ocassions I tested the waters, I found a really hateful person there.
Anyone who mentions "serious" or "marriage", I say "friends first". They almost always will agree to that. So meet them for lunch and see what happens. If you can turn a lunch date into a lover, then both of you have done well for that day.
If you are already married and have no intention of doing more than a one night stand I suggest the p4p route. Of course your moral compass may be differnet than mine. I'm happily divorced.
Oh, and "don't play games"? I ignore that completely assuming it isn't too negative. This game has rules and winners and losers and they are playing the "game" just by being on the Internet.
X
I posted this message first in the Manila thread but I think this thread is much more convenient.
I am wondering how can you be completely honest and straightforward on your intentions on dating or social sites like DIA-Tagged-FH etc… Most Filipina girls here are seemingly looking only after serious-long term relationships. One of the most recurrent sentences I’ve read is against the “men who play games”.
Do you specify anyway directly on your profile or when you contact them that you are interested only on short term or “friends with benefits” kind of relations? In this case, does it not reduce dramatically your answer’s rate, if you get any answers at all?
I would be very grateful if great freebies specialists like freebiefan, greglondon and others could give some advices on this question.
Cheers
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hosser
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=899226&postcount=4301
i asked this question in public view to “i am a monger” sammon lol… but he never responded. some guys on this forum “claim” they are upfront with the girls but i have been around filipinas for while now (well not as long as most of you as i am not that old) and if they are not whoring or the ***** type outright telling them you just looking to get your dick wet doesn’t fly in most cases.
now if she is impoverished the ***** type, naive (low intelligence) and desperate for some cash i am sure some things can be arranged as anywhere on earth. the conditions have to be right.
i have replied you. check your pm. being a monger means looking for sex with p4p girls as well as others. if sex equals marriage i would have been married hundresds of times already. i look for dates with normal girls. if we end up in bed so be it. i am not going to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) them or pressure them in any way to jump into bed. if the girl thinks just because she had sex with me i am going to marry her that is her problem. i never promise anything before or after. nobody has come after me for a shotgun wedding because i had sex with them.
girls are not naive as you believe. they know the ways of the world and if they are clueless their friends will teach them. all people have their own rules and regulations they follow. insisting your way or highway on others is wrong.
This posting may only make sense to someone who uses Filipina Heart:
I just returned from my quarterly trip to Manila. As usual, I set up my dates in advance to keep my dance card filled. One of the dazzling babes meets me for drinks and dinner. After that, I encouraged her to come join me over at the hotel which she resisted a bit but then agreed. I guess the Catholic guilt wore off after the third tequila shot.
Long story short, I had a great night with her and she left early in the morning. Here's where the trouble started. I went to my FH account whereas I had her listed as one of my "favorites". Once they are listed as a favorite, you can put copious notes about them to refresh you memory upon your next visit. I did this, listing her number and some graphic detail about our encounter.
The next day I started getting texts and flame mails about why did I put this information on FH. I was not aware that these notes are visible to the person you have as your "favorite". I assumed they were as private as the notes you put in the "detail" section of Yahoo Messenger. Since I was busted, I just apologized profusely saying I learned my lesson and will never do that again, blah blah blah.
I’d suggest you do not use the "notes" section of FH since it serves no real purpose due to the fact it's not private.
GregLondon
07-26-09, 19:20
As somebody else said there is no right or wrong answer to this and different people have different approaches.
My own approach is to be pretty upfront in my ads, explicitly stating I'm not in it for the long term. Maybe this means i just get a 25% response rate rather than the 90% I would probably get if I said I was on the look out for a nice wife, but with so many girls around that still way more than I can handle, so why not at least start with a pool of reasonably up for it girls. Even then half of the respondees haven't quite understood I'm just looking for short term fun so it takes a few ÝM or text messages to eliminate them from my enquiries. If one is looking for something more unusual eg threesomes then there is another layer of winnowing to get to the group that can do that too. My approach is usually to give the girl 500P (2-3 hours) or 1000P (all night) assuming we have had alot of fun. I am not looking for this type of date to get "freebies" - I don't like Bar Fining girls (a) because I dont like funding often shady bar owners and (b) because I much prefer hanging our with nurses, uni girls and the like than girls sitting around a bar getting jaded. In most cases the amount and quality of the sex one gets is way in excess of what one would get elsewhere in SEA eg Thailand or Cambodia let alone elsewhere in the world so i certainly dont begrudge a student 500P towards her fees or mobile phone bill. And one can develop genuine and I hope long term friendships. I personally don't think highly of the type of guy who tries to trick these young girls into a "freebie" by giving the impression he is looking for a wife when in fact he is on a sex binge. Of course if we are talking about the 35 year old divorcee filipinas desperate for a good seeing to, that's a different story, but that's not my scene. I'm not even sure that this type of guy is saving alot of money, as it probably involves, more taxis to unproductive dates, dinners and general time wasting than would otherwise be the case. I suspect that in many cases its more a question of massaging his own ego by pretending to convince himself he is still attractive enough to pull a 21 year old for free.
I posted this message first in the Manila thread but I think this thread is much more convenient.
I am wondering how can you be completely honest and straightforward on your intentions on dating or social sites like DIA-Tagged-FH etc… Most Filipina girls here are seemingly looking only after serious-long term relationships. One of the most recurrent sentences I’ve read is against the “men who play games”.
Do you specify anyway directly on your profile or when you contact them that you are interested only on short term or “friends with benefits” kind of relations? In this case, does it not reduce dramatically your answer’s rate, if you get any answers at all?
I would be very grateful if great freebies specialists like freebiefan, greglondon and others could give some advices on this question.
Cheers
Member #4491
07-27-09, 00:28
Amen to that, GregLondon!
Well spoken.
Barba
Marconista
07-27-09, 01:22
A month or so back I stayed a short week in Manila again.
This time for pleasure only, as in "no work".
Had chatted up 4 ladies from DiA before arriving, in addition to my 36yo lady friend (FuBu) of the last 7 years.
Arrived saturday afternoon and my FuBu came to meet in my hotel within an hour. She stayed until monday morning, and all we did outside of the hotelroom was to have breakfast. Other meals via room-service. Nice weekend.
Monday morning, sent her off to work.
Monday. Off to Harrison Plaza (HP) at 1000 to buy a SIM-card and txted the first lady on my list. Fhe was waiting for it. She lived not so far away, and arrived HP in an hour. She is a 26yo, slim and I met her in DiA about 4 months ago. She looked conservative in our chats, so I told her that I was looking for fun and more. She gave me a cold shoulder, and I did not hear from her in a weeks time. Then she contacted me in YM and said that she would like to meet me for some hugging and cuddling, and maybe more if chemistry was right. As I did not visit Manila right away I lost contact with her. Guess she blocked me in YM. Then - when I had a firm booking I mailed her and she responded right away. From the way she acted I dont think she had been with a man in a long time. She wanted everything except anal. Not experienced, and not maganda, but good looking to me. Sent her home at about 7pm with php.1000 for transport.
Contacted the next lady, and she agreed to meet at HP next day at 1000.
Tuesday. Txted Bev and asked when she would be in HP. She replied, wanting to reschedule since it was raining, but I told her that this was my only available day for her. It took her 2,5 hour to arrive in HP, and she txted me 5 minutes before arriving, and I took a taxi from my hotel to be meet her. She was 27yo, petite and cute, and just wanted to get to the hotel ASAP. In the elevator up to the room she said she needed a shower due to the long travel, and who was I to refuse that. Well - it took all of 20 minutes before we were in bed due to her showering first :) - and she stayed until 9pm. Not so experienced, but loved to meet a foreigner and was playing with my nose and dick all the time, being very frank about how she loved to fuck and that she did it toooo seldom. Sent her off with php 1000 for transport, with a promise to meet again.
Wednesday. Met the 4th lady (3rd from DiA), Eva, and she did not know HP, so we decided to meet at Mall of Asia. Met her at one of the many coffeeshops, but she did not want to stay there for too long, she wanted to go back home. I asked her to come to my hotel, but she was reluctant to begin with. I reminded her of our chats and that we agreed to meet for some hugging and cuddling and that it would be difficult to do in the coffeeshop :) . She then agreed to visit my hotel, but "she was not like that, sleeping with a guy on a first meeting", she said. I said that was fine with me, if we could do all the other stuff except having sex. She smiled and said no problem and we took a taxi back to my hotel. We were on the bed within two minutes and she eagerly started to play with the bulge in my pants. I opened my zipper and she played it. Told her we should undress unless she wanted to get a lot of sperm on her dress. We both did, and I played her wet pussy until she came and she played me. I held back as I wanted her to stay for a few hours, and she did. No intercourse, but all the rest. Regular girl, looking for marriage. Told her I was attached, looking for fun only. Before leaving she thanked me for not fucking her, and promissed to give me everything I wanted upon my next visit. I have been on YM with her later on, where she have stripped down and played for me ;) . Looking forward to meet her again.
The 4th girl did not materialize, due to me.
However, I met another lady from DiA for coffee at MoA. She had been chatting with foreigners for a long time, but never met any. Shy she said. She was married, and told her hubby everything, she said. I challenged her and she decided to meet me with a chaperone, and brought her 8 year old niese along. Fed them icecream and pasta, and in a chat a few days later she said she would like to meet me privately when I returned. At first she thought I was a grandpa, looking for young girls (she is 25), but after meeting she found me to be a pleasant and fun person.
I just love the RP and especially DiA.
All the young ladies were slim and pleasant for my eyes, although not beautiful. I dont look for starfishes.
I stayed at the G Hotel close to Maynila Ospital along Roxas and never experienced any problem. Each breakfast there were foreign guys there with local ladies.
They have conferences in the hotel as well. One day it was about Human Traficking :)
FreebieFan
07-27-09, 06:19
Was chatting on YM to one of my DIA ladies (or maybe one of yours tooo! ). Just keeping her nice and warm for my next visit.
She so sweetly told me that had used the choclate wrapper from the chocs I bought her to decorate her college book, and that she had showed her mom and sister the very sweet pair of panties that I had bought her.
And that was all it took. Now shes asking if I can tie her up and spank her on her next visit. Sure thing baby!
Hi I have just joined this meeting online place and I have been contacted by girls that are located in remote areas. You FH experienced guys have you met girls in remote areas or you do not bother?
Good question, but a lot depends on you. Have you already traveled to the typical destinations? Do you have a fairly long holiday and are you adventurous and don't mind roughing it? If you've answered yes to any of these, then you should give at least one "new" destination a try.
Another option, is station yourself in a city like Cebu or Davao or CDO and encourage them to bus / ferry to your destination. I've had poor luck with this, probably because I won't sent the money in advance. Also, they seem to want you to sit on a bus for two hours even though you've already spent hours and thousands of pesos to get there -- two hours from their location.
That being said I always pay transportation costs round trip and even encourage that they take a taxi (if available). Be aware, some ladies will get in a taxi and expect you to pay at the other end -- in other words, you have to be hanging around to meet the taxi. Sometimes a pain in the arse.
I generally find that there is more than enough women withing 90 min bus/jeepney. So, I don't bother unless I'm curious about visiting a new place.
Some will disagree with me, but I usually allow them to brings someone...friend, cousin, etc. NOT MOTHER! They usually ask ahead of time.
Where are these "remote" destinations?
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Hi I have just joined this meeting online place and I have been contacted by girls that are located in remote areas. You FH experienced guys have you met girls in remote areas or you do not bother?
Marconista, can you give some more info about "g" hotel. I've never heard of it. Do you have contact info? Prices?
FreebieFan, congrats on your public service helping to educate college girls. The world is a better place because of you!
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GregLondon
07-28-09, 07:41
I think your plan of action should be to go where you want to go, then search for girls convenient for that location. Some "remote" places in the Phils are well worth visiting in their own right eg Palawan, but more than likely you will have been contacted by girls from places with high populations but few Westerners especially Mindanao, places like Bislig, Zamboanga, Gen Santos etc. It would be foolish to chase any one girl in any of these places, but if you want to explore and have time go there and meet a whole bunch. As previous poster said most girls in these places are more than willing to take 2/4 hours bus to see you in Davao, CDO or wherever you are, the problem is that few have the funds to spend to get there and risk that you dont show up etc to refund them. So they prob ask for the fare, and will generally inflate the true cost by 2-5x, in which case they will probably keep the money.
If you are talking about a remote village rather than a substantial Mindanao city like the above, then your other problem may be conservatism. Most guys seem to want a fun sexy girl who has good English, a sassy sense of humour, is good and adventurous in bed etc AND they are the only foreigner who has touched her. Unfortunately this is probably being unrealistic or hypocritical. The former qualities tend to be developed through contacts with previous Western guys and are almost invariably found inn the cities. of course if you are loking for a shy and innocent girl with basic English that's different.
Hi I have just joined this meeting online place and I have been contacted by girls that are located in remote areas. You FH experienced guys have you met girls in remote areas or you do not bother?
Thanks Xman and greglondon. I am surprise by the variety of location the girls come from. Remote areas means for me Island that does not belong to Davao, Cebu and Manilla. I have decided in the light of my readings and comments to declare honestly that I am looking for leisure meetings and specific locations.
GregLondon
07-28-09, 08:15
I think if you want to have many many girls, these cities are your best bet, but remember Cebu Pacific flights to loads of places are often just 1000P. You will often pay twice as much for a hotel in Cebu or Manila than you can find for a smaller place so if you want a change of scenery it can be worth it.
Thanks Xman and greglondon. I am surprise by the variety of location the girls come from. Remote areas means for me Island that does not belong to Davao, Cebu and Manilla. I have decided in the light of my readings and comments to declare honestly that I am looking for leisure meetings and specific locations.
GregLondon
07-28-09, 09:58
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Vous avez tout a fait raison Greg (You are right Greg) Usted tiene todo justificу Greg
Give the guy a chance, I presume he is a French speaker so I think things get lost in translation. He seems essentially to be saying thanks Ill take your advice and go to specific places and find girls in and around that area'. Am I wrong?
Hi I have just joined this meeting online place and I have been contacted by girls that are located in remote areas. You FH experienced guys have you met girls in remote areas or you do not bother?Girls from remote areas is not a good option. If you are looking for a genuine country girl to settle down it maybe ok. But if you are looking for fun stay in the cities. Better hotels and the girls are better companions. I had a girl from Mindanao meet me in Manila. She had to take 6 hours bus to zamboanga airport just to catch a plane. Then 2 hours flight to manila and half hour to the hotel. By the time she came to the room all she could do is sleep. The girl can eat only pork and rice day in and day out. And occassional fried chicken.
Not interested in any sightseeing although it was her first trip to Manila. Maybe she thinks people will think bad of her being with a foreigner like in her own place.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Cunning Stunt
07-29-09, 11:40
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Island Associate
07-29-09, 17:36
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Chocha Monger
07-29-09, 20:24
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07-29-09, 23:08
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Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Cunning Stunt
07-30-09, 10:25
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
GregLondon
07-30-09, 18:38
Some guys have messaged me about getting threesomes in Cebu. If you are looking for this (or just a single, sexy girl0 then check out "sexygurl" from DIA 22 Cebu. As you might have guessed, she got a little help with the English on her profile, but it's 100% accurate, she's got a great body and very sensual. Her face is not 100% photogenic as her mouth is quite wide, but actually she looks better in person than on camera. She's great in bed if you are a decent guy at least.
Marconista
07-30-09, 19:38
G-Hotel is along Roxas Boulevard, next to Maynila Ospital.
Link: http://www.g-hotel.com.ph/
- and Tripadvisors have some reports as well:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298573-d648427-Reviews-G_Hotel_Manila_by_Waterfront-Manila_National_Capital_Region_Luzon.html
I paid about php4400 a day for a doubleroom, including breakfast for 2.
No proble with visitors as far as I know. I never brought any in at late hours.
Its a little noisy, as in you can easily hear people walk outside the room. When the boardwalk was still open you could also easily hear the music from the bars across Roxas.
Friendly staff, and important to me - Free WiFi.
If you look deeper in the "Manila Hotels"-thread you can find more info, but it is a pain in the ass to search for "G-Hotel" in ISG.
Looking forward to go back to RP, but it will be mainly work next time in Manila (with lady workmates all over, limiting my possibilities).
Marconista, can you give some more info about "g" hotel. I've never heard of it. Do you have contact info? Prices?
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GregLondon
07-30-09, 19:53
If free wi-fi is important for you then The Mango Park hotel on Maxilom Blvd is worth looking at. It's the cheapest mid range hotel with free unmetered wifi in the rooms and a pool (not a bad small pool on the roof) I could find in Cebu. Prices are 1500/2000 P for a standard/delux (bit bigger with fridge) inc a (not especially good) breakfast for 2. There are other hotels such as the grand which are nicer for similar money but the wifi is 100p an hour so if you are online a few hours a day the cost starts to escalate.
G-Hotel is along Roxas Boulevard, next to Maynila Ospital.
Link: http://www.g-hotel.com.ph/
- and Tripadvisors have some reports as well:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298573-d648427-Reviews-G_Hotel_Manila_by_Waterfront-Manila_National_Capital_Region_Luzon.html
I paid about php4400 a day for a doubleroom, including breakfast for 2.
No proble with visitors as far as I know. I never brought any in at late hours.
Its a little noisy, as in you can easily hear people walk outside the room. When the boardwalk was still open you could also easily hear the music from the bars across Roxas.
Friendly staff, and important to me - Free WiFi.
If you look deeper in the "Manila Hotels"-thread you can find more info, but it is a pain in the ass to search for "G-Hotel" in ISG.
Looking forward to go back to RP, but it will be mainly work next time in Manila (with lady workmates all over, limiting my possibilities).
If you are looking for this (or just a single, sexy girl0 then check out "sexygurl" from DIA 22 Cebu.
Have seen her profile on Tagged and judging from her photos gets around the islands! I would assume you shot some of her pics as well!?
Also thanks Jackson for cleaning up this thread; well done!
Thanks Marconista for the G hotel info.
Mattrick, sexygurl looks interesting, but it looks like her profile was written by a friend. The English is just too good. I guess there's nothing wrong with that.
??? Did my 2000th post get deleted. I though I'd get a prize or something. How disappointing. :-)
X
I am not sure what site DIA is. I know the others you mention.
GregLondon
07-31-09, 10:56
I am not sure what site DIA is. I know the others you mention.
Date in Asia (just Google it) it is by far the most active dating site for phil girls mainly because though it has less functionality than the others anyone can post messages for free
GregLondon
07-31-09, 10:58
Thanks Marconista for the G hotel info.
Mattrick, sexygurl looks interesting, but it looks like her profile was written by a friend. The English is just too good. I guess there's nothing wrong with that.
??? Did my 2000th post get deleted. I though I'd get a prize or something. How disappointing. :-)
X
Does Coca Cola write their own advertising?
GregLondon
07-31-09, 11:03
Have seen her profile on Tagged and judging from her photos gets around the islands! I would assume you shot some of her pics as well!?
Also thanks Jackson for cleaning up this thread; well done!
I've not seen her tagged profile recently, but I have alot of pics of her so I guess she has probably used some of them. Yes I think she gets invited off for mini holidays quite alot as do most of the good looking girls with a great attitude. Guys see them once or twice then figure that the best plan is to take them to some of the islands where they can enjoy a much nicer environment than Cebu in the company of a very sexy girl
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