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Eaglestar
07-31-09, 20:44
Oh Ugh,,,,, I just chatted with this gal (I use that term loosely). She sent me a message on DIA hinting so I bit and exchanged Yahoo email IDs with her cuz she did not look bad. When I told her to turn on her cam she did and I almost puked. Different person.

If there was a beauty contest between my ass and her face, the one eyed man would win, HANDS DOWN. If she pages you just ignore her, or risk loosing your dinner.

This is her web page on DIA and the web page photo is attached but it AIN'T her my friends.

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=88e69738-160e-444e-9da3-28167fd57994


ES

Lushington
08-01-09, 00:09
Found this in a Manila craigslist W4M....Funny as!!


People say I'm cute - My mom says I'm cute.
Simple - Complicated
Looking for someone who's generous - Will let you have sex with me if you throw me enough money. . . . I'll lay there like a dead fish.
Chubby - Fat. Fat enough to roll down the street.
Looking for someone who likes experiencing different places/cultures - . . . So I can come along and travel at your expense.
God-fearing - Have you found Jesus? I'll definitely help you.
Looking for someone who knows how to treat a lady - All expenses paid by you.
Tour guide - See 'Looking for someone who's generous' and 'Looking for someone who likes experiencing different places/cultures'
Don't care about looks - Will ask for your picture, then drop you like a hot potato if you're not their 'type'
Sexy - Not.
Looking for someone who won't cheat - Just got burned. Will get burned again. And again.
Let's be friends first - . . . because friends do stuff for other friends. Like loan them money.
Looking for soulmate/long-term relationship - Looking for sugar-daddy
Looking for caucasian/foreigner - Any will do, as long as he's American
Looking for marriage - Any will do, as long as he's American
Looking for Christian - Because . . . Islamic=Arab=stinky, Hindu=Indian=stinky, Buddhist=Chinese/Japanese=too asian for asians, Jewish=Jesus-Killers=precludes Christianity . . . they should just say 'caucasian'. See 'Looking for caucasian/foreigner'
No pic, no reply - Picky. See 'Don't care about looks". Send them cock pics.
Must be honest - See 'Looking for someone who won't cheat'
No secrets - Naive. This is THE INTERNET! . . . You could probably scam *her* for money.
No lies - See 'No secrets'
No games - Just gave up DotA and Counterstrike. Otherwise, see 'No secrets'
I am not a scammer - I am a scammer.

Andre007
08-01-09, 17:49
Oh Ugh,,,,, I just chatted with this gal (I use that term loosely). She sent me a message on DIA hinting so I bit and exchanged Yahoo email IDs with her cuz she did not look bad. When I told her to turn on her cam she did and I almost puked. Different person.

If there was a beauty contest between my ass and her face, the one eyed man would win, HANDS DOWN. If she pages you just ignore her, or risk loosing your dinner.

This is her web page on DIA and the web page photo is attached but it AIN'T her my friends.

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=88e69738-160e-444e-9da3-28167fd57994

ESI blew this girl off many months ago. She hit me up on DIA also. I found out she works in one of the bars on Mango in Cebu. I told her no I wont visit her there then immediatly she starting asking for money claiming her son was sick in the hospital.

I will give her a little credit because she approached me at Valentine Day saying she just wanted a date. She was trying to sneek in the back way but then the begging for money started. I never seen her in person or on cam but I am happy I read your report.

FreebieFan
08-03-09, 06:44
Being bored at work as ocassinally occurs was trawling thru the pc. Spotted www.beautifulfilipina.info. has pics of girls with email and phone numbers. Sadly it doesn't show where the heck they are at. But for the retired folks with time on their hands whats the loss in sending off a few sms.

Zootsuite
08-03-09, 22:17
Guys!

I'm deeply concerned, does anyone know what happened to asianbabydoll a fantastic performer in abc?

I've chatted with her since long time back. I haven't heard or seen her online in a long time. I know sometimes she takes time off, but not this long.

Has she found someone else? Huhuhuhu

ZS

Blizz
08-04-09, 10:44
Hey

I saw her online today if you mean this one:

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile. Aspx? Uid=79c38eb8-acac-4686-ab4a-cc74d2de8c3e

She looks serious hot. I can see why you would be concerned.


Guys!

I'm deeply concerned, does anyone know what happened to asianbabydoll a fantastic performer in abc?

I've chatted with her since long time back. I haven't heard or seen her online in a long time. I know sometimes she takes time off, but not this long.

Has she found someone else? Huhuhuhu

ZS

Zootsuite
08-04-09, 19:51
Hey

I saw her online today if you mean this one:

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile. Aspx? Uid=79c38eb8-acac-4686-ab4a-cc74d2de8c3e

She looks serious hot. I can see why you would be concerned.Sorry I can´t open your link so I don´t know if that´s the one. But here she is...http://www.asianbabecams.com/photos.asp?Performer=asianbabydoll

She is bloody hot and a body to dream about. Hehehe. And also it's very fun to chat with her.

Bob Bowie
08-05-09, 17:18
Is there a non offensive way to ask an attractive girl if she was born with a dick? I usually go with my gut feeling like assuming if she is over 5'3, wearing too much girly attire, or is online after 9 pm PI. time: she is a dude. Compare DIA's last active section at noon P.I. time and after midnight. It is like a freak show after dark, but It is good practice to learn how to spot the men in dresses

Cherry Blossoms used to do a good job of sorting out the bad profiles, I found the most "good girls" there. However since last year, I have noticed a lot of cross dressers and girls who were obviously cam girls on the site. CB used to list the the sign up date on there profile, so I knew most girls that have been on the site for at least a couple of months with out getting banned were most likely not to be scanners. CB management has also gotten more aggressive and sexually themed in there email advertisements.

On another note, I remember a dating site that included breast size among its profile questions. It was not a pure "sex site", and a lot of normal Pinays were on the site.

If anyone knows the name, could they please share. I am finding it difficult to find a Pinay with big tits.

Radical Guy
08-05-09, 21:11
I remember a dating site that included breast size among its profile questions. It was not a pure "sex site", and a lot of normal Pinays were on the site.

If anyone knows the name, could they please share. I am finding it difficult to find a Pinay with big tits.Does the site also require men's profiles to disclose dick size?

That would be fair. LOL

Bob Bowie
08-06-09, 17:49
Does the site also require men's profiles to disclose dick size?

That would be fair. LOL

Sure why not? You have a problem with that?

Andre007
08-07-09, 11:45
Is there a non offensive way to ask an attractive girl if she was born with a dick? I usually go with my gut feeling like assuming if she is over 5'3, wearing too much girly attire, or is online after 9 pm PI. time: she is a dude. Compare DIA's last active section at noon P.I. time and after midnight. It is like a freak show after dark, but It is good practice to learn how to spot the men in dresses

Cherry Blossoms used to do a good job of sorting out the bad profiles, I found the most "good girls" there. However since last year, I have noticed a lot of cross dressers and girls who were obviously cam girls on the site. CB used to list the the sign up date on there profile, so I knew most girls that have been on the site for at least a couple of months with out getting banned were most likely not to be scanners. CB management has also gotten more aggressive and sexually themed in there email advertisements.

On another note, I remember a dating site that included breast size among its profile questions. It was not a pure "sex site", and a lot of normal Pinays were on the site.

If anyone knows the name, could they please share. I am finding it difficult to find a Pinay with big tits.I simply ask them if they were BORN A WOMAN!!! Most of them don't have a problem with asking. I never ask if they are a real woman or a woman because most Ladyboys & Shemales think they are REAL woman.

I thought this was funny. I placed a not on my DIA profile no Ladyboys or Gays. A Shemale sent me a note and I told them to read my profile. They came back and said I mentioned Ladyboys and Gays but I didn't specify Shemales LOL.

FreebieFan
08-11-09, 03:57
Ok sometimes I liike to peruse who is offereing what and the levels of creativity that young female writers use to basically state they will accept $$ for sex.

Lately some ladies is clearly trying to stave off the effect of recession (or maybe create one) by stating amazing prices. I. E. P5000 for 2 hours etc.

Was in email contact with one young lady claiming to be a student, who I wanted to massage me and my lady friend and then join us in the sack. The sweet thing sent pics and said she would "accept " (not request) P 7500 for 2 hours and I would also have pay her travelling costs.

I told her to consider taking an Economics course majoring in Supply and Demand.

Cunning Stunt
08-11-09, 15:40
Lately some ladies is clearly trying to stave off the effect of recession (or maybe create one) by stating amazing prices. I. E. P5000 for 2 hours etc.

I also have had some silly price quotes from CL list girls, often holding out for P5T ST and making out that they are worth it because they are good girls that have never done it for money before. Yeah..well sure, and I’ve taken a vow of lifelong celibacy:). One girl said that she wouldn’t do it for less than 5 thou, as she made nearly that much on a photo shoot at her day job as a fashion model! Admittedly she did look rather tasty in the picture she sent, although how was I to know that the photo was genuine?

Has anyone tried girls from one of the escort sites? Was offered the full monty by this girl for P2500 all-in ST. She don’t look at all half bad and I might have being tempted if I could be assured that the photo was genuine and she really did look like this. Price is still a bit steep though!

Mind you with my overflowing little black book of CP contacts together with occasional mall/LA Cafe forays and tagged/DIA ladies on the go it must only be that perverse need for variety and the old adrenalin punch that it offers, that tempts me down this particular avenue.

FreebieFan
08-13-09, 04:45
I don't know who this guy is in DIA, but he is a loser. He messaged the girl that I met from Manila and told her about my post and how he wanted the same thing. WTF. Can you not get your own women?? You are a Fucking loser. I hope that we never get to meet in person. This site is for men to help others meet ladies, not to tell ladies that you saw them here and want the same.

Triple X:
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Country: Canada
State / Region: British colombia
City: Vancouver
Ethnicity: Caucasian (White)
Appearance: Attractive
Height: 179 cm (5'10")
Weight: 38 kg (84 lbs)
Eye color: Green
Hair color: Brown
Education: University - Graduated
Occupation: Import/export.
Religion: Christian - Catholic
Zodiac: I'll tell you later
Born in the year of: I'll tell you later
Marital status: Single
Have children: No
Wants children: Yes
Willing to relocate: Not willing to relocate to another country
Smoking: Non smoker
Drinking: Non drinkerI read your report about Cebu. And then checked out the DIA loser.

I work in another Asian country (see board reports and you will see where) and whenever I used to make a report about a freebie I've found, ten guys would crawl out the woodwork send me PM's for deails, and all assume if I pass them the phone number that they could score, just by dialling the number.

I don't post such reports any more as who needs or wants to deal with such parasites.

Warbucks
08-13-09, 09:51
I don't know who this guy is in DIA, but he is a loser. He messaged the girl that I met from Manila and told her about my post and how he wanted the same thing. WTF. Can you not get your own women?? You are a Fucking loser. I hope that we never get to meet in person. This site is for men to help others meet ladies, not to tell ladies that you saw them here and want the same.

I read your report about Cebu. And then checked out the DIA loser.

I work in another Asian country (see board reports and you will see where) and whenever I used to make a report about a freebie I've found, ten guys would crawl out the woodwork send me PM's for deails, and all assume if I pass them the phone number that they could score, just by dialling the number.

I don't post such reports any more as who needs or wants to deal with such parasites.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=on+the+low

Freebie with all due respect to you and Robbaf not showing the girls whole face or an/giving an identifying mark would solve this problem. I don't show girls entire face's (unless it comes out blurry hard to see anyway) on ISG no matter Pro or non Pro unless they are in a dancing bar. Two reasons I would hate for their family to see them and second you never know who is out there who will find this girl just to find you as I take their number ( and I am sure a lot of you guys do too) and usually they take mine but the good thing its so easy here just to buy another SIM.


Dear Bulai 69 and other senior mongers. Just want to share a small note of caution to all. Please, I repeat please, do not share any contact details with anyone who has very few postings or no postings or postings which ask just for questions without any contribution.

I have had one bad incident. I had very " innocently" given the details of a contact to guy who had asked for it in the Thai forum after I shared my contacts. I did not read all his reports. He hardly had a few reports. And all his reports were just questions. And this was one of those contacts who was not someone available at Siloam or Sukhimvit area in the go go bars. But a free lancer girl studying in a university and needed money for her fees. Whenever I went to Thailand we used to be literally dating each other. And it was with her permission that I gave the number.

There was this LE who was hovering around and took the contact and asked her to meet at Hotel Elizabeth in Bangkok, which she promptly did. He probed her as to how long she was in the trade etc. And finally sprang a surprise and told her she was under arrest. And this, of all the places in Bangkok. She was taken to the police station and threatened that she needs to pay up some huge money since she has been in the trade without paying them off. And if she does not pay, her fine could be just about some Thai Baht 5,000 but she will have her picture splashed all over the news papers with a news item. That was being ruthless.

She was not a regular. And finally, after 2 days in the coolers and pleading a lot, she was told that they wil hook her up to a guy who was a pimp and that he will get her the clients and she needs to pay up the amount for her past mistake of not paying the cops and remaining in the business. The bribe they were asking was Thai Baht 50,000. It got reduced to Thai Baht 35,000. Finally she contacted another Bule regular of hers and he paid up that money. And from then on, a random check is being done on her and being warned that if she entertains a client, then she needs to pay up. Apparently, the calls have reduced now to about 1 in 20 days.

I would suggest that in case you have not picked up a girl from the regular mongering joints, then please avoid giving the contact details to any guy who has very little or no posts. And if there are very little posts, then, please go through the contents of the posts, to check the quality of his contribution. Am sure you will be able to ascertain it from there whether he is a regular or not and whether its worth sharing the contact.

I thought, this is applicable in most parts of the developing world and hence decided to post it here.

And Bulai 69, thanks for the contact last time. She came with her friend. And all went well and we had a whale of a time

Cunning Stunt
08-13-09, 16:23
I don't know who this guy is in DIA, but he is a loser…You are a Fucking loser. I hope that we never get to meet in person.

Height: 179 cm (5'10")
Weight: 38 kg (84 lbs)


Sure must be one long, straggly, piece of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) if height/weight figures are correct.

Surprised that you hope to NEVER get to meet him in person. I would have thought the opposite would be desired!

Robbaf
08-13-09, 22:10
Sure must be one long, straggly, piece of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) if height/weight figures are correct.

Surprised that you hope to NEVER get to meet him in person. I would have thought the opposite would be desired!When I posted that I was mad as hell and I said that I hope that we never get to meet, as in I pity you if we ever get to meet. I almost thought about having the girl meet the guy and her texting me when she was in the room.:D

Robbaf
08-13-09, 22:13
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=on+the+low

Freebie with all due respect to you and Robbaf not showing the girls whole face or an/giving an identifying mark would solve this problem. I don't show girls entire face's (unless it comes out blurry hard to see anyway) on ISG no matter Pro or non Pro unless they are in a dancing bar. Two reasons I would hate for their family to see them and second you never know who is out there who will find this girl just to find you as I take their number ( and I am sure a lot of you guys do too) and usually they take mine but the good thing its so easy here just to buy another SIM.
I didn't post pictures that I took of her, it was her DIA picture. He tracked her down on DIA. I agree with what you are saying.

Ezinho
08-14-09, 09:35
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=729462&postcount=117

I dragged this from the Comments On Site Rules Section as I thought it pertained to the discussion here.

This is the problem with posting photos. These are real fucking people this is not a movie. There are some crazy mother-fuckers on this site. Now Ezinho I applaud you on being a tough guy ( I consider myself one as well) and telling this guy to curve but the problem you don't know who he is. I am sure though through this girl he knows who you are. You will return to Angeles and when you are out bar hopping you never know if this guy will pop out of the wood works with the sucker punch, his buddies or at worse a weapon.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=curve
With all due respect, my post that you quoted is over a year old. And it was regarding a photo I had posted in the photo gallery for Ecuador, a completely different country; hell, a completely different continent!

What happened was, I ended up sending Jackson a PM and I asked him to remove the girl's photo. Jackson removed the photo the next day and the ISG member sent me a PM to thank me for taking the picture down. So, who's the "crazy mother-fucker" in this situation?

As someone who actually was attacked in Angeles City, I would say the thugs hanging out in the streets late at night are much more dangerous than any anonymous member of the ISG.

And as far as complaints about showing girl's faces, this is an issue that you guys should bring up with Jackson, since he is the administrator of this site and he makes the rules. Myself and others who post photos are just following the rules of the ISG.

I can't comment on this DIA thing as I don't know what it is. Anyways, I'd rather fuck filipinas than chat with them online.

Cunning Stunt
08-14-09, 11:18
So, who's the "crazy mother-fucker" in this situation?

Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

Way I see it, ISG is a closed member only community, and no one except subscription paid members should get to view any photos posted here, Admittedly you will still get the very rare instances, as in your case, where a fellow senior member will object to another members photos.

Another scenario is when a member willfully shows photo’s to the girl in question. Assholes like this do unfortunately exist here. They are normally of the sad and envious wanker type who ought to get out more! This is the case of Robbaf’s beanpole man.

A third, even rarer category, is girls who have taken out membership or had it bought for them by an ISG member. These are as rare as a virgin in an AC bar, so can probably be discounted, but they do exist.

The idea that a family member of one of the girls pictured, getting to see her photos is, I imagine, fairly preposterous.

The only way around this situation is for all of the photo galleries to be taken down. In this case I reckon ISG would immediately lose a fair proportion of its paying membership and be a much less interesting place. I don’t suppose Jackson would be a very happy teddy bear;).

Very few ISG members have an agenda against the photo galleries, and it makes one wonder at the raison d'être and motivation of those who do. However I’ll bet it does not stop them drooling over the photos in the galleries although they themselves will never be able to contribute anything worthwhile. Perhaps this is part of the problem.

Warbucks
08-14-09, 12:16
With all due respect, my post that you quoted is over a year old. And it was regarding a photo I had posted in the photo gallery for Ecuador, a completely different country; hell, a completely different continent!
Got you.

What happened was, I ended up sending Jackson a PM and I asked him to remove the girl's photo. Jackson removed the photo the next day and the ISG member sent me a PM to thank me for taking the picture down. So, who's the "crazy mother-fucker" in this situation?
Well I have heard more then your story of guys getting threatened over photos as one man's ***** is another man's wife/girlfriend etc....

As someone who actually was attacked in Angeles City, I would say the thugs hanging out in the streets late at night are much more dangerous than any anonymous member of the ISG.
There was a guy I read about who was sucker punched in the face in Angeles by another expat and he had no idea why.

And as far as complaints about showing girl's faces, this is an issue that you guys should bring up with Jackson, since he is the administrator of this site and he makes the rules. Myself and others who post photos are just following the rules of the ISG.

Nah no complaints from me I saw a post about guys complaining about guys telling girls they saw them here and I thought that would be a way to avoid it or other potential trouble.


Way I see it, ISG is a closed member only community, and no one except subscription paid members should get to view any photos posted here, Admittedly you will still get the very rare instances, as in your case, where a fellow senior member will object to another members photos.

This is not a closed community but the world wide web.

I can't remember how the hell I found ISG but I know I was not looking for it.

Cunning Stunt
08-14-09, 16:03
This is not a closed community but the world wide web.

I can't remember how the hell I found ISG but I know I was not looking for it.

Yes, but the point is was you able to view photos? Surely only a hacker would be able to do this without paying subs/achieving senior member status:).

Amavida
08-14-09, 16:55
... whenever I used to make a report about a freebie I've found, ten guys would crawl out the woodwork send me PM's for deails, and all assume if I pass them the phone number that they could score, just by dialling the number.

I don't post such reports any more as who needs or wants to deal with such parasites.FF I've experienced the 'me too' mentality also. Frankly the thought of 'going sloppy seconds' turns my stomach. Maybe the guys doing it just PM reflexively with out thought.. I just politely PM the guys back to go get there own girl in as light hearted way as possible without causing offence.

AV

Amavida
08-14-09, 17:07
Yes, but the point is was you able to view photos? Surely only a hacker would be able to do this without paying subs/achieving senior member status:).Well, CS I've always relied on the fact that only members can see pics & assumed its ok to post pics.

I have however been on the receiving end of howls of protest by that ironic breed of 'mongers with morals' from time to time. So you can't please everybody..

I think i would observe a little tact & not knowingly post if a fellow monger had subsequently 'bought' one of my ex short term rentals.
AV

Member #4351
08-14-09, 23:17
One of the reasons that I have almost completely stopped posting on my thread in the Peru forum is because some asshole who I set up with a cutie not only showed her ISG, but showed her my thread and told her what my ISG handle is. This information has now made the rounds and continues to make its way to more and more chicas in Lima.

A couple of years ago, I posted some pics of a girl on the Colombia forum, eyes and jewelry blacked out. She was from a fairly small town. This fact not withstanding, within two days I had her messaging me in a panic begging me to take down the photos. Somebody had somehow recognized her and was ruining her reputation in the pueblo.

This is a recurring theme on ISG. The fact that some losers think they will gain some sort of cachet by showing the forum to girls is pitiful.

Cunning Stunt
08-15-09, 03:17
Salutary story, David but unfortunately that is the nature of the beast. Boards such as this will always attract more than its fair share of saddo, ‘get a life’ types who get their nasty, green eyed, little kicks by spoiling the fun for everyone else.

Simply from reading the tone of the posts, on various forums, of certain members, you just know that they would take great delight in pissing on the cornflakes of other members.

It’s a real pisser but what can you do?

Amavida
08-15-09, 04:52
One of the reasons that I have almost completely stopped posting on my thread in the Peru forum is because some asshole who I set up with a cutie not only showed her ISG, but showed her my thread and told her what my ISG handle is. This information has now made the rounds and continues to make its way to more and more chicas in Lima.

A couple of years ago, I posted some pics of a girl on the Colombia forum, eyes and jewelry blacked out. She was from a fairly small town. This fact not withstanding, within two days I had her messaging me in a panic begging me to take down the photos. Somebody had somehow recognized her and was ruining her reputation in the pueblo.

This is a recurring theme on ISG. The fact that some losers think they will gain some sort of cachet by showing the forum to girls is pitiful.Yes sadly there are trolls & losers lurking all over the internet. I know how you must feel, I recall about two years ago some body who goes by the ISG handle 'X-man' searching for my profile on Cherry Blossoms web site & then revealing my info on ISG. This may have potentially caused me great harm but fortunately, in that instance it did not.

I cant see the point of posting heavily censored pics, anonymous body parts hold no interest for me. I can understand why guys might give up & not post at all.

I have received many PM's from good guy's on ISG wanting to meet up for a beer but always politely declined. The reason being that I have always kept a strict quarantine between my mongering life & my non-mongering life. This way if I post a pic, no-one knows who posted it, & presumably, no-one knows it was posted, except those I share it with here.

If it comes to the day that I am recognised simply because I am frequenting the same mongering location so often as many ISG'ers then its probably time for me to hang up the Cialis, for awhile ;)

AV

Warbucks
08-15-09, 09:22
One of the reasons that I have almost completely stopped posting on my thread in the Peru forum is because some asshole who I set up with a cutie not only showed her ISG, but showed her my thread and told her what my ISG handle is. This information has now made the rounds and continues to make its way to more and more chicas in Lima.

A couple of years ago, I posted some pics of a girl on the Colombia forum, eyes and jewelry blacked out. She was from a fairly small town. This fact not withstanding, within two days I had her messaging me in a panic begging me to take down the photos. Somebody had somehow recognized her and was ruining her reputation in the pueblo.

This is a recurring theme on ISG. The fact that some losers think they will gain some sort of cachet by showing the forum to girls is pitiful.

David thats a got damn shame. I always enjoyed your posts and because of your reports have been trying to put together a trip to South America/Peru when my schedule allows.

I have a fairly young mongering buddy who lives in Metro Manila and I asked him why he never posted photos and he simply said photos mean “evidence” and he left it at that

I mean I agree with Cunning Stunt 100% if there were no photos the forums would be boring but I have said time and time again if you dance with the Devil be prepared to dance around the flames.


I have received many PM's from good guy's on ISG wanting to meet up for a beer but always politely declined. The reason being that I have always kept a strict quarantine between my mongering life & my non-mongering life. This way if I post a pic, no-one knows who posted it, & presumably, no-one knows it was posted, except those I share it with here.
AV
I never give guys I meet off these forums my real name.

GoodEnough
08-16-09, 01:13
I'm with AV on this. I get many requests, most I'm sure from genuinely good guys here, requesting to meet for a beer when they're here in Davao. Most of the time I decline, I hope politely, since there's no way to differentiate between the good guys and those who are---how to put this kindly--less responsible. There are indeed some very strange creatures lurking in the outer realms of cyber space, and you're never sure when you might meet one.

In my early days on ISG, I would meet gladly with anyone who asked, but I've been bitten because of my naiveté, and now I try to make sure it's not ever going to happen again. I even had one guy who was baffled as to why I would not let him stay at my house and why I refused to introduce him to the wife of my best friend. Others, who have contributed absolutely nothing to this site, have requested me to fix them up with women. So now I protect my anonymity and by doing so, I've probably missed the opportunity to meet some truly interesting people, but so be it.

GE

Wicked Roger
08-16-09, 05:08
One of the reasons that I have almost completely stopped posting on my thread in the Peru forum is because some asshole who I set up with a cutie not only showed her ISG, but showed her my thread and told her what my ISG handle is.
This is a recurring theme on ISG. The fact that some losers think they will gain some sort of cachet by showing the forum to girls is pitiful.

David

Not only in Asia and South America. Had same experience in the UAE when some toad decided to show a CIS girl (the one and only, and it will be the last trust me) my FR and handle. Never found out who it was, and surprisingly he never owned up...but I got a series of threatening and abusive phone calls for about a week.

This sort of stuff happens unfortunately as some guys cant get it up themselves IMHO and like to ruin for those who can

Manicure
08-16-09, 05:49
I agree with the direction of the last threads. but I can assure you that your report and response does help plan a visit. It is also fun to share our experience. Despite good intention though everybody has to be vigilant at both end of the tunnel. Not everybody can see the world the same way. Some does it voluntary ( spoiling) others are not understanding the repercussions of their decision and are trying to profit of the context. I guess what I am saying is that common sense more prevail. It is preferable to hide or blur the face of the lady in my opinion if you post here the picture so all party are protected unless you are 100% sure they will never see it(and judging by our friend in Peru this to prove wrong).

Byung
08-16-09, 07:43
I met a few board members back in 2004 when I used to hook them up with chicks in the red light districts of Seoul (of course, it was my 'work' and I got a commission) and wow, I never had any of the weird experiences like you guys.

All the guys I met were very 'normal'. Just regular business guys who were in town for a bit who needed a 'local' to show them around and get them girls who provided good service at the local rate!

I guess I'll be careful in the future, though I never did use my real name when I met board members (though it is normal to use a nickname when working in the industry, as I was).

Byung
08-16-09, 07:50
So I was on the FH website (where I have a Gold membership), and wow, I do get a good response on there, though most of them are not exactly cute. Still, from about the 200+ emails and 'winks' I've rec'd, I've found some gems.

I'm mainly speaking to two of them now. One is 21, and the other is 25.

The 21 year old is really cute, very sexy. We were talking for a while, even doing video chat. She has her own computer, which is good, since it seemed most of the girls chat from work or from a PC cafe. We've made plans to meet up perhaps next month if I can make it out there in time. Funny thing she told me is that on the street, Westerners don't approach her, and it's only Koreans that do so. I wonder why...

The 25 year old is not sexy, but more along the lines of 'beautiful' and 'elegant'. She looks like a pretty, yet pure 'wife' type of girl. I was talking to her on the phone today and she was telling me she's a virgin. Damn! Oh well, but she is very intelligent, probably the smartest I've spoken with, and she's very hard working it seems.

Well, I must say FH has done wonders for my ego. I feel like a stud now, weeding out the nasties from in FH inbox and only contacting those that look somewhat decent. And most of the hot ones I email first do respond back and we chat as well.

Anyway, for those of you actually living out there, you need to get on FH!

DIA is fine as well, but the problem for me is that there is only 1 photo per profile, and almost any girl will have one photo where they look great, but in person look like the Michelin tire man.

Amavida
08-16-09, 16:22
The 21 year old is really cute, very sexy. We were talking for a while, even doing video chat. She has her own computer, which is good, since it seemed most of the girls chat from work or from a PC cafe. We've made plans to meet up perhaps next month if I can make it out there in time. Funny thing she told me is that on the street, Westerners don't approach her, and it's only Koreans that do so. I wonder why...Paler & more chinky eyed? Shrugs..


Anyway, for those of you actually living out there, you need to get on FH!Those of us actually living 'out there' need only stand still & wait for them to come to us ;)


DIA is fine as well, but the problem for me is that there is only 1 photo per profile, and almost any girl will have one photo where they look great, but in person look like the Michelin tire man.Amazing how quickly after graduating from college some turn into Telly Tubbies is'nt it? A word to the wise from an ISG'er who lives here, its often a warning sign that they have had a remittance BF, because often the girls (and their famillies) are too poor to gorge themselves on jollibee.

AV

FreebieFan
08-17-09, 02:15
FF I've experienced the 'me too' mentality also. Frankly the thought of 'going sloppy seconds' turns my stomach. Maybe the guys doing it just PM reflexively with out thought.. I just politely PM the guys back to go get there own girl in as light hearted way as possible without causing offeYeah I'm with you on this.

Can recall one set of PMs' that went like this.

Me. Ok yes her number is. XXXXXXX

Him. OK what shall I call her

Me. Talk to her and get her name. You asked for a number and I gave you a number. However as you can't do that, her name is Carol.

Him. Ok so how shall I say I got her number.

Me. I have no idea and don't really care. You asked for a number of an ex playmate of mine and I gave it to you. I gave you the name too. Go get creative.

Him. Well I called her she asked me how I got her number. I told her I got it from some guy. She said if I wasnt a white guy she didn't want to see me. You didn't tell me she only has sex with white guys.

Me. Please don't ever waste my time by contacting me again.

X Man
08-18-09, 10:22
Ha, ha, well I'm glad I got to meet you when you had no scruples!

X


I'm with AV on this. I get many requests, most I'm sure from genuinely good guys here, requesting to meet for a beer when they're here in Davao. Most of the time I decline, I hope politely, since there's no way to differentiate between the good guys and those who are---how to put this kindly--less responsible. There are indeed some very strange creatures lurking in the outer realms of cyber space, and you're never sure when you might meet one.

In my early days on ISG, I would meet gladly with anyone who asked, but I've been bitten because of my naiveté, and now I try to make sure it's not ever going to happen again. I even had one guy who was baffled as to why I would not let him stay at my house and why I refused to introduce him to the wife of my best friend. Others, who have contributed absolutely nothing to this site, have requested me to fix them up with women. So now I protect my anonymity and by doing so, I've probably missed the opportunity to meet some truly interesting people, but so be it.

GE

X Man
08-18-09, 10:31
With the exception of the last message from "him", I'm not sure why you find this unusual. I also would have asked those earlier questions. I would have asked partly to protect the guy who gave me the info.

Maybe a completely different situation....

I once planned to meet an ISG guy. We talk on the phone and I ask, "what do I say if someone asks how we met?" He replies, "no one will ask that.". So there I am in a restaurant full of mixed company and one of the first questions was, "How did the two of you meet?".

I'm a terrible liar, so I opt for something very near the truth, "We met online at a travel website. He gave me some great information about abc ...".

X


Yeah I'm with you on this.

Can recall one set of PMs' that went like this.

Me. Ok yes her number is. XXXXXXX

Him. OK what shall I call her

Me. Talk to her and get her name. You asked for a number and I gave you a number. However as you can't do that, her name is Carol.

Him. Ok so how shall I say I got her number.

Me. I have no idea and don't really care. You asked for a number of an ex playmate of mine and I gave it to you. I gave you the name too. Go get creative.

Him. Well I called her she asked me how I got her number. I told her I got it from some guy. She said if I wasnt a white guy she didn't want to see me. You didn't tell me she only has sex with white guys.

Me. Please don't ever waste my time by contacting me again.

X Man
08-18-09, 10:39
Up until my last visit I used Cherry blossom, but this time I used DIA.

DIA requires a followup with cam, but I met only a few that way. Too busy. As Byung says, the one pic on DIA is probably the best they have.

You might make better use of your time with a subscription to FH or CB, even if it's only one month.

I met four from DIA and one turned out to be absolutely fantastic. On turned out to be expensive to meet and ungrateful for her free few hours out. One turned out to be shy, and showed up in a nurse student uniform. One just turned my stomach.

X





DIA is fine as well, but the problem for me is that there is only 1 photo per profile, and almost any girl will have one photo where they look great, but in person look like the Michelin tire man.

Member #3428
08-18-09, 10:39
So now I protect my anonymity and by doing so, I've probably missed the opportunity to meet some truly interesting people, but so be it. GE

GE it's hard to protect your anonymity when I sit next to you in an airport for two hours then three hours after that I turn around and I am sitting next to you in a far away place that will remain nameless....

Sorry to miss you in MNL this past weekend had a blast still trying to sort it out and get a report going.....

X Man
08-18-09, 10:53
Interesting post, especially since someone recently criticized me (pm)for posting "bullshit" on the PI threads, but bery bery little on the Japanese thread. ( a member of the X Man fan club)

The first time I posted pic on Japan thread it was PG rated hot chicks on the beach. I got slammed online by some guy saying it could be "my daughter" and I was a "stalker", etc..

I also had some PI ISG x-rated pics get turned in by some guy who happened to know the gal. He was especially angry because I had used a "secret camera" which of course is what the girl told him. I was tempted to show the whole set which included night activities as well as fun at the beach....damn good CIA agent I must be.

When I post pics I never give names, nor locations.

X



David

Not only in Asia and South America. Had same experience in the UAE when some toad decided to show a CIS girl (the one and only, and it will be the last trust me) my FR and handle. Never found out who it was, and surprisingly he never owned up...but I got a series of threatening and abusive phone calls for about a week.

This sort of stuff happens unfortunately as some guys cant get it up themselves IMHO and like to ruin for those who can

Trajano
08-18-09, 12:32
Hello fellow ISGers,

Being a long time lurker and first time poster, I would like to post my experiences in DIA.

On my first trip to Philippines and after dutifully reading as much as possible from the threads, I followed your advice and opened an account in DIA. Just showing up was enough to get lots of messages (all ages, lots of countries, a fair share of ladyboys) that required a bit of filtering. I also mailed a few of the cuties and among them appeared what seemed to be a truly unpolished gem from Mindanao, 20 years old and university student. I am under 35 so I was happy with the age difference.

What follows now is a story of a not too elaborated scam but one certainly well paced and smoothly performed.

Long smart talk ensued, nice stories, that came from a seemingly open minded person. I performed most of the checks proposed in the forums, ym followup, cam, other boyfriends or not, own laptop, tuition and boarding house payed by family, double checking background and education, traveling abroad. All passed with marks.

After two weeks, we had agreed on meeting for a week of island hopping. She insisted on booking two rooms, something that should have rung a bell but actually was arousing for me as it implied a sense of modesty. I must say I was starting to fall for her.

During our chats an issue seemed to surface, she had some problems getting the university transcript. Apparently something was wrong with her birth certificate. She was solving it but it was an annoying bureaucratic hurdle.

A week later she said that she could not come on the agreed date but one day later as she was solving those legal issues with the city hall and the university.

After one more week of sweet talks of beautiful nights by the sea, she said she could not meet me as the legal issue was stuck and she needed to be there. The lawyer she had contracted was far too expensive. She said she could not see me and that she had to give back the laptop, her family had payed a lot already.

Her future was at stake and she had to do it. Obvious question: how much is the lawyer? Straightforward answer 25.000 PHP.

I thank the board for the enlightment. I had been scamed for 4 weeks.

To be honest I am quite pragmatic. 3 nights at Marriott in Hong Kong is more or less the same, and out of 35 days in HKG and Philippines is not a big deal. On the other hand I don't care about what kind of bullshit they tell me in order to save face. I don't care what appears on the "bill", water buffalo, cousin on hospital. If is easier for the girls to lie than a straightforward sex deal then let it be. I don't care if she is a student or not as long as I believe it.

What made me angry is that no goods were going to be provided and that I had been treated as a sucker for so long. I could pay a girl's holiday and had no sex with her, I could pay a "water buffalo" and have a beautiful night. Something I cannot accept is what this girl (or whatever she is) was doing to me.

Don't be too rought with me I am still in the "could it be true" phase.

For all the other not so hard skinned board members: plan A, plan B, plan C. F3, and never give any money before you get there. Remember that they could pass all the tests as they also know about them.

I am not letting her know I am aware of her dealings. As some people on the board have suggested the less they know about us discovering their tricks the less they will improve their tactics.

Kudos to the board,

T

Robbaf
08-18-09, 22:07
Hello fellow ISGers,

Being a long time lurker and first time poster, I would like to post my experiences in DIA.

Don't be too rought with me I am still in the "could it be true" phase.

For all the other not so hard skinned board members: plan A, plan B, plan C. F3, and never give any money before you get there. Remember that they could pass all the tests as they also know about them.

I am not letting her know I am aware of her dealings. As some people on the board have suggested the less they know about us discovering their tricks the less they will improve their tactics.

Kudos to the board,

TSorry to hear about your experience and I hope that you will find another Filipina and then another:D

After being here for awhile I can see where the girls learn this type of behavior. I have met so many girls who told me stories of guys who just meet and screw the girls, promise the world and are gone the next day. We teach them how to take advantage of us. I understand not all girls are like that, but if you read a lot of the ad's on DIA, who will find things like, "Don't ask me to get naked on Cam!!" and girls tell me that is because on the first chat guys start the wow baby get naked for me.

Here is one that I found on Craigslist:

First Post:

Like a virgin - w4m - 24 (Alabang)

I can't believe I'm doing this. Desperate times call for desperate measures, they say.

I'm a pretty and pretty sexy 24 year old girl. I haven't been touched by a man (or woman) for 4 years now since I broke up with my first boyfriend. My friends tease me that makes me like a virgin again.

Here goes. I'm selling my like-a-virginity for P35,000. Just please don't give me any disease or hurt me. Please don't reply if you're just curious or want to see my photo. Serious offers only.

Second Post:

please don't be rude to me - w4m - 24 (Alabang)

Below is one of the rude emails I received. This is adressed to all you people out there reading ads. Please do not reply to an ad if it does not strike your fancy or you have nothing better to do than torment another soul. Please do not verbally abuse me. I have done nothing to you. I cannot defend myself from you. Or if you're just trying to get my photo but have no intention of closing the deal, please don't write me. It's hard enough to do something like this. Apparently a lot of other women are here to give you what you want/need so please write me only if you are serious about an offer. Thank you.


-----------Original Message-------------
Subject: re: Like a virgin - w4m - 24 (Alabang)
From: Daniel Richardson ( hotmail.com)


hahaha, u r funny ... tourists are stupid, but not 35000peso stupid .... no one will pay that for a pinay ***** pretending to be a 'born again' virgin.
i will offer you 500peso for 3 hours and I go in all three of your holes ... and you better shave that hairy pussy before hand, or only 300peso for you .... not ONE peso more

http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/cas/1322546925.html

The Departed
08-18-09, 22:17
Hello fellow ISGers,
T
So dude,,did you send the dough? I replied to all the ladies from Pattaya and Angeles. The replies were too funny. Not a hooker among them.

You should not have made big plans. Keep it simple. Don't promise them anything worthwhile in advance. Otherwise, you are already losing.

Byung
08-19-09, 00:19
I was on FH yesterday and messaged a girl on there who looked super hot and cute. I sent her my yahoo ID, and I was added to her list about 30 minutes later. We then start chatting, and she asks to cam with me, and I agree.

Well, what the fuck? The chick was not the one in the photos at all, not even closely resembling her, and was probably a good 50 lbs (about 22 kg) overweight. I chatted with her for about three minutes and blocked her.

What the hell do these girls think they're doing? Totally retarded and.. eww, this one was so disgusting. Ugh, I almost vomited.

FreebieFan
08-19-09, 00:47
I was on FH yesterday and messaged a girl on there who looked super hot and cute. I sent her my yahoo ID, and I was added to her list about 30 minutes later. We then start chatting, and she asks to cam with me, and I agree.

Well, what the fuck? The chick was not the one in the photos at all, not even closely resembling her, and was probably a good 50 lbs (about 22 kg) overweight. I chatted with her for about three minutes and blocked her.

What the hell do these girls think they're doing? Totally retarded and. Eww, this one was so disgusting. Ugh, I almost vomited.Sadly this is quite normal in a number of sites. If you call the girl on it she will say she didn't have her own pic so " borrowed" a friends etc. Always some lame excuse. Don't worry. Move onto the next one. Remember, its like fishing. Can't get a great catch every time.

FreebieFan
08-19-09, 00:50
Sorry to hear about your experience and I hope that you will find another Filipina and then another:D

Here is one that I found on Craigslist:

First Post:

Like a virgin - w4m - 24 (Alabang)

I can't believe I'm doing this. Desperate times call for desperate measures, they say.

I'm a pretty and pretty sexy 24 year old girl. I haven't been touched by a man (or woman) for 4 years now since I broke up with my first boyfriend. My friends tease me that makes me like a virgin again.

Here goes. I'm selling my like-a-virginity for P35,000. Just please don't give me any disease or hurt me. Please don't reply if you're just curious or want to see my photo. Serious offers only.

Second Post:

please don't be rude to me - w4m - 24 (Alabang)

Below is one of the rude emails I received. This is adressed to all you people out there reading ads. Please do not reply to an ad if it does not strike your fancy or you have nothing better to do than torment another soul. Please do not verbally abuse me. I have done nothing to you. I cannot defend myself from you. Or if you're just trying to get my photo but have no intention of closing the deal, please don't write me. It's hard enough to do something like this. Apparently a lot of other women are here to give you what you want/need so please write me only if you are serious about an offer. Thank you.


-----------Original Message-------------
Subject: re: Like a virgin - w4m - 24 (Alabang)
From: Daniel Richardson ( hotmail.com)


hahaha, u r funny ... tourists are stupid, but not 35000peso stupid .... no one will pay that for a pinay ***** pretending to be a 'born again' virgin.
i will offer you 500peso for 3 hours and I go in all three of your holes ... and you better shave that hairy pussy before hand, or only 300peso for you .... not ONE peso more

http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/cas/1322546925.htmlYeah I saw that one too. And the thought that crossed my mind, was how the hell would anyone know whether she was even remotely serious. A very strange add. But you are right, we've conditioned some of these ladies to expect us to pay. But 35k. Damn I could get 35 girls for that.

Trajano
08-19-09, 11:57
So dude,,did you send the dough? I replied to all the ladies from Pattaya and Angeles. The replies were too funny. Not a hooker among them.

You should not have made big plans. Keep it simple. Don't promise them anything worthwhile in advance. Otherwise, you are already losing.I didn't send any money. Thanks for the interest. That was the obvious red line.

In fact I haven't arrived yet to Philippines and have a few cuties lined up. No more money asked so far.

T

The Departed
08-19-09, 21:13
Yeah I saw that one too. And the thought that crossed my mind, was how the hell would anyone know whether she was even remotely serious. A very strange add. But you are right, we've conditioned some of these ladies to expect us to pay. But 35k. Damn I could get 35 girls for that.

You do have the cherry girls in Angeles. Not my bag.

I am doing DIA. It is a hoot. The only honest ones are the grandmothers and even there one wouldn't know.

I recognise some of the mug shots from the erotic services section of Craigslist.

X Man
08-20-09, 16:09
DIA: whiterabbit (in AC)

A good example of why you should have numerous contacts and alternative plans.

She looks good in pic, and was very nice in communcation. Works at the Irish pub. She said she would take time off of work and show me around...possibly travel. I didn't take her up on the offer, but she was on the top of "things to do" list.

When I text her from Manila, she doesn't know who I am. I get to AC and she says she's just gone off to Subic Bay (no details). Later, she oddly amends it to "seeing a cousin in Olongapo". As you might expect, I find other things to do in AC.

Upon her return, she sends me a text. I suggest lunch. She says she has plans, but will contact me later for a possible later meeting. It doesn't happen, she texts me very late suggesting I have breakfast at Shano's so that I can meet her. I ignore the text and basically give up on this one.

As I'm sitting in the Clark terminal for my flight to Cebu, I get a text which basically says that X Man was wrong to think that she was THAT type of girl, blah, blah, blah, X Man must be the jealous type to think what he was thinking, blah, blah, blah.

It's funny how they will give you such short messages when they apparently like you, but somehow have advanced discourse skills when they want to diss you.

Anyone had better luck with this cute, but loopy Filipina?

X

X Man
08-20-09, 16:34
DIA: highness

H: It's too far.
X: How far is it?
H: 30 minutes
X: Can we meet tonight?
(no reply....30 minutes is apparently too far!)

DIA: star's
Sexy pic, suggests she'll meet me, says she'll take me to the beach....
Reality....she asks me to get on a bus to meet her in some town no where near a beach, and, oh, btw, she is a student and has classes in afternoon and evening.

X Man
08-20-09, 16:56
DIA: kcdurano (in AC)

Get to Candy bar early...a stunner who get's bfined early.

Bob Bowie
08-21-09, 20:40
DIA: whiterabbit (in AC)

A good example of why you should have numerous contacts and alternative plans.

Anyone had better luck with this cute, but loopy Filipina?

X

I asker in June if she wanted to get together with me, she replied with her cell number.
next email, I asked for her yahoo and she sent it.

I never folled up on it.

Robbaf
08-21-09, 22:13
DIA: kcdurano (in AC)

Get to Candy bar early...a stunner who get's bfined early.
X, the profile is gone:(

Also, tried to PM, your box is full!

Robb

Juant Pussy
08-22-09, 19:33
http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=8a91e21e-0903-4aa6-9754-bbda0e61e349

Byung
08-22-09, 20:21
Since joining FH, I've chatted up a lot of girls. To date, in about a one month period, I have over 300 messages in my inbox and hundreds of 'interest' indicators. I chat up the ones who are a 7 and above in terms of looks.

Out of all of them, I've met quite a few 'scammers'. As in, girls who want money. One chick wanted me to send her close to 3,000 PHP to buy a webcam so she could chat with me. She had great pictures though, of a hot Filipina with a slim figure and huge knockers. She had no money to visit a PC cafe to use their cam (of course, she had her own personal computer at home), so she wanted me to wire her money via Xoom. I then agreed to do it (not that I would), and she gave me her name, address, and details on how to create an account. Then she told me she needed money to pay for the fare to pick up the money. LOL! So I notified FH about her and they deleted her profile. She then sent me a Yahoo message, upset that I was responsible for her deleted profile.

Then there's another girl, a virgin from Cebu who on our first chat stated she needed approximately 12,000 PHP to pay for her tuition or something that would allow her to graduate. She had a deadline of last Tuesday, and I told her I couldn't help her. She said she understands. Come Tuesday, she said she was able to get an extension until Friday. Naturally, on Thursday, she asked me for money again, saying she'd scrounged up enough money and now only needed 3,000 PHP. I again told her no, and haven't heard from her since.

...and there are the others, but I won't get into it here.

Then there's one girl, who looks extremely beautiful. She looks somewhat Chinese/Korean, and is slim with a nice rack which complements her pretty face. I was camming with her, and she really is hot. I even chatted her up on the phone. Well, anyway, during the course of our several-day-relationship, she would have to say "I have to go, I have no more load in my pre-pay internet kit"...

She would tell me how it costs her 60 PHP per hour to talk to me, so she wanted to save her 'load' so she can talk to me everyday. She said it cost $50 USD (she didn't even quote pesos) to pay for her monthly internet if she were to get an unlimited free service.

Anyway, that was only a small part of the conversation. We would usually talk to each other about other things, and she was telling me how she was already in love with me, and how she dreamed of our life together, and how she would be a great wife... handling all the household chores and taking care of me.

Of course, eventually came time to sign off because she had no load in her pre-paid internet kit. So finally she then asked if I'd be willing to help her out. I told her I wish I could, but I couldn't. I told her my brother lived in Davao with his Filipina wife (scammer lives in Mindanao) and I could ask him to help her out. She kept saying that she'd rather me help her out personally, and that she didn't even have enough load in her phone to make outgoing calls to talk to them. I told her not to worry and that I will figure out a way... she then suggested Western Union.

Anyway, this girl who says she loves me and wants to marry me, doesn't need FH anymore, doesn't even need to look at another guy anymore and all this (all within a few days, WOW!)... then says she has to go offline as her internet-load is low, and that she'll talk to me later. I said okay, and that I'll send her the money in a few hours (yeah, right).

A few hours later, supposedly when she's sleeping, I see her status as online in FH. So I signed onto my Yahoo using an alias, and I just add her. She accepted within two seconds, and we started chatting. Enclosed is the entire transcript of our conversation (by the way, she has no idea what this 'fake person' looks like, so how can I be good looking? LOL. I also made up the name of the archbishop she 'knows', Fernando Martinez, haha.):

**Me**: Hello, are you there?
Scammer: hi
Scammer: hw r u?
**Me**: I'm doing quite good, and yourself?
Scammer: im fine too
Scammer: thank u
**Me**: So, are you a single lady?
Scammer: yes i am
Scammer: very single
Scammer: wat about u?
**Me**: That sounds great. I myself am single.
**Me**: So you have no boyfriend, that's good.
Scammer: great
Scammer: thats good
Scammer: wat r u looking for in a lady?
Scammer: i dont have bf yet
**Me**: Someone who is very honest, caring.
**Me**: And of course, God-fearing.
Scammer: wow thats good
Scammer: i think those qualities in me
Scammer: :">
**Me**: How old do you want your boyfriend to be?
Scammer: age doesnt matter for me
Scammer: as long as the man is serious with me
Scammer: wat about u?
**Me**: I am a little bit old, I think.
Scammer: oh how old r u?
Scammer: ?
Scammer: its fine with me
**Me**: I'm... too old, I think. =(
Scammer: as long as u are a serious man tome
Scammer: oh that doesnt matter to me
Scammer: age doesnt matter wen it comes to love
**Me**: Even 70 years old?
**Me**: I think maybe you are too young for me, now.
Scammer: wel yes as long as the man is sincere and serious to me
**Me**: Okay... because I am kind of old, and I never married or had children, so I saved up so much money now and I want to finally get married and have children, even if I'm old...
Scammer: wow u do
Scammer: i wonder y not
Scammer: with ur looks? hmmp
Scammer: i think ur very handsome'
**Me**: Even if I have lot of money, will you take advantage of me?
Scammer: yes thats a good plan
Scammer: no i wont ever do that
Scammer: im not that kind of woman who will take advantage to anyone
Scammer: im a serious type of person
**Me**: I'm glad to hear that from you.
Scammer: yes ..
Scammer: i fear GOD
Scammer: and i beliv that its a sin to take advantage to other people
**Me**: Yes, even though we think God is not watching us, he really is. And if we take advantage of God's children, he will put us in hell.
**Me**: People who take advantage should go to hell, because they break other people's trust.
**Me**: So I am glad to hear you are not like that.
Scammer: yes of course my parents discipline me so well
Scammer: so we are good children of good
**Me**: Yes. But are you willing to move to USA?
**Me**: I live in Las Vegas. So there are many casinos and sinners here.
Scammer: yes im willing to move
Scammer: and relocate
Scammer: oh hehe i see
Scammer: thats fine
**Me**: Well, if you become a good wife to me, you will inherit a lot of money. =)
**Me**: I know I can only live maybe 10 more years, but after I die, my wife will get more than $7,000,000 dollars.
Scammer: oh really? wel money isnt sop much important
Scammer: i prefer to inheret ur love more
**Me**: Do you think I should leave to church instead? I really want to help spread the word of God.
Scammer: wow thats good
Scammer: wat is ur work?
**Me**: Well, it's a secret, but I used to build casinos.
**Me**: I would own casino for a few years and sell it to someone else.
**Me**: I feel bad, because gambling is a sin.
Scammer: yes u should and i will help u spread words of god
Scammer: oh thats good
**Me**: So that's why I want to give all the money back to church.
Scammer: yes its a sin as long as uplay a lot
**Me**: I want to give everything to the church... my money, my cars, my airplane, my homes...
Scammer: but if we play sometimes
Scammer: its just a pastime
**Me**: That's why I want to find a simple girl who doesn't care about money.
Scammer: oh the church is really fortunate
Scammer: yeah..
Scammer: maybe thats me
**Me**: Yes, the Archbishop is my dear friend.
**Me**: He is a Filipino-American.
Scammer: wow really?
Scammer: whos he?
Scammer: maybe i know him'
**Me**: Yes, well this is in Las Vegas.
**Me**: His name is Fernando.
**Me**: But can I ask you a question; how many boyfriends did you have?
Scammer: wat is his fulname?
Scammer: i have ONCE
Scammer: and been very hurt
Scammer: he cheated me
**Me**: Fernando Martinez is his full name.
Scammer: nw i dont wanna be hurt anymore
**Me**: And you really don't have a boyfriend anymore?
**Me**: You are so pretty, I'm sure you have a good looking young man for a boyfriend.
Scammer: oh yeah i know him
Scammer: he is good man
**Me**: Oh wow, that's great. =)
Scammer: ive heared
Scammer: i dont have bf anymore
**Me**: Wow, even though you are so pretty, you don't have a boyfriend. That is so hard to believe.
Scammer: yeah i dont have
Scammer: y should i lie\
**Me**: It's just difficult to trust people.
Scammer: i am so picky in choosing a man nw
Scammer: cox i dont wanna be hurt anymore
**Me**: This is a personal question, but I must ask: are you a virgin?
Scammer: yeah iunderstand me either
Scammer: but wen u find the true love we ned to trust
Scammer: is it very important to u?
**Me**: It is somewhat important to me, as I need to find a pure woman.
Scammer: oh thats good
Scammer: i am pure
Scammer: i beliv purity is very sacred for GOD
**Me**: So I will be your first man for sex?
Scammer: yes if we have given a chance
Scammer: i beliv that sex is importand before marriage
**Me**: Okay, maybe you are the right one for me.
Scammer: GOD"S word
Scammer: wow thank u for considering me as
Scammer: u right one
**Me**: Yes, I only consider you because you are a virgin, you do not care about money, and you are God-fearing.
**Me**: ...and because you do not have another boyfriend.
Scammer: wow thank u so much
**Me**: Do you think it's possible we can marry next month?
Scammer: yes i dont have another man
**Me**: I can give your parents a dowry of $100,000 to marry you.
Scammer: yes sure if u want too
**Me**: Would you rather $100,000 to church or to your parents? I know God is very important to you.
Scammer: wow thats a lot, wel my parents is not materialistic
Scammer: not necesary to give them but if u wanna help itsok
**Me**: Well, from someone so God-fearing like you and your parents, probably they would rather have it go to church then. That's fine, I will give to the church so we can help people.
Scammer: yes wel my family is very important to me too. i prefer to split it half to church for GOdD and half to my family
Scammer: if u will allow me
**Me**: Oh I see. Yes, I can give your parents $50,000 and $50,000 to church then.
Scammer: yes
**Me**: And I will take your virginity.
**Me**: And I hope to have children with you.
**Me**: I'm not sure if in my old age I can still produce sperm for children, but I hope I can do it.
Scammer: yes sure..
Scammer: wel any u want to have child
**Me**: But, I'm so ashamed, because as much as I love God, I am also a sinner.
Scammer: yes of course god will give u a child
Scammer: cox u r a good person
**Me**: My sin is that I like when woman gives me oral sex. I know it's not good, but I feel like I must have it.
**Me**: I'm so ashamed of myself.
Scammer: yeah but u know GOD sacrificehis love for our sins
**Me**: I'm so ashamed, but can you provide oral sex for me?
Scammer: and im sure GOD will pardon ur sins
**Me**: I really need to find the right girl for this.
Scammer: as long as u repent for ur sins
**Me**: To marry and love.
Scammer: oh wel if u want too
Scammer: y not
**Me**: Is it okay if I finish in your mouth? That is another one of my deep sins.
Scammer: i maybe not the best but i can try harder
Scammer: wow great maybe its me
Scammer: wooohhh..
Scammer: wel i can try
**Me**: I'm so happy to hear that you are willing to do this for me, to possibly be my wife.
Scammer: i can try to
**Me**: Of course, I will only touch you after I marry you.
**Me**: Only after you are my wife I will ask you to do this.
Scammer: yeah sure.
Scammer: u know wen i love a person im wlling to do everything
Scammer: wow thank u
**Me**: I really want to say this first, to let you know beforehand, that I am a sinner, too.
**Me**: If anything you are not okay with, I understand. So I have to tell you all of this now.
Scammer: wel its ok to me
Scammer: i will be here for u
**Me**: After you give me oral sex, sometimes I need to finish onto your face. Sometimes, the devil makes me do these horrible things. But I really must finish and shoot my sperm on your face.
Scammer: even if u are a sinner
Scammer: oh yeah,,wel i can try
**Me**: I spoke with Fernando Gonzalez, the Archbishop about this, and he is praying for me.
Scammer: ilbe willing to if its ur wish
Scammer: but sometimes u must resist the devil
Scammer: wow thats good
**Me**: Okay, so you will give me oral sex and I can finish in your mouth and on your face. That is good to hear. I will try to resist the devil, but sometimes I must do this to you, I'm sorry dear.
Scammer: yeah i understand u..
Scammer: its ok to me
Scammer: no problem
Scammer: do u have a cam?
Scammer: i wanna see u
**Me**: No, I'm sorry but I don't have one. I'm too old, so I never bought a cam.
**Me**: Do you have a cam?
Scammer: oh ok i see
Scammer: i dont have it too
Scammer: by now but im gonna try it for u
Scammer: if u want
**Me**: Can you send me any pictures?
Scammer: yeah sure
Scammer: plsaccept dear.
Scammer: wat is ur screen name in FH?
**Me**: By the way, I would like to send you some money to help you out if you need some.
**Me**: You don't know my name?
Scammer: really? im ashame
**Me**: I thought you knew who I am.
Scammer: i know u DAVID
**Me**: But would you like me to send you some money to help you and your family for now?
Scammer: i knew u but i just want to make sure
**Me**: Do you have any pictures where I can see your whole body? I want to see if your body is good to have children.
Scammer: well im ashamed on u bcox its our frst time to talk
Scammer: and u will give me money?
Scammer: why would u do that?
**Me**: Because I think you will be my wife.
Scammer: well yes sure
**Me**: I only want to send you $1,000.
**Me**: Just to help you a little bit.
Scammer: oh i see thank u for that
Scammer: well its up to u..
Scammer: i also ned to have internet connection so i can chat with u anytime u want
**Me**: Well, if you are ashamed, I understand that.
**Me**: Oh, well how much does the internet connection cost?
**Me**: I can pay for your internet then.
Scammer: thats my full body pic wen im stil on school
Scammer: its just 150dollars in us money dear
**Me**: I'm sorry my dear, but these pictures do not come out so good. They are very blurry, so I cannot see.
Scammer: really? thanks but im shy..
**Me**: Okay, so instead of $1,000, I can just send you $150 for internet. I don't want you to feel ashamed so I understand you.
Scammer: ur anice man and i dont want to take advantage on u
Scammer: oh sorry pls wait dear soon it will be appear clear anytime soon
Scammer: sorry my prepaid kit signal is really slow
Scammer: i wish i can have internet connection
**Me**: I understand.
Scammer: yes of course if u insist
**Me**: I really wish you had a cam so I can see how you look in person. Do you have a neighbor who has a cam?
**Me**: Maybe you can borrow it.
Scammer: thank u in advance but i will assure u i will be faithfull and true to u
Scammer: no dear, i dont have a neighbor with a cam
Scammer: they also dont have a computer
**Me**: Well, I hope these are really pictures of you.
Scammer: its on a net cafe
Scammer: yes its really me.
Scammer: thats me, if u want i can buy a cam tomorow
Scammer: then u can see me on cam'
**Me**: Well, before I send the money, I would like to see you on cam. Just to make sure, I hope you understand.
Scammer: yeah sure.
**Me**: Unfortunately dear, the photos are still blurry.
Scammer: mybe i will try my cam now but this cam dont work for many time
Scammer: times..huhu:((
Scammer: oh so sorry
**Me**: Oh, you have an old cam?
**Me**: Sure, maybe you can try it anyway.
**Me**: Let's see if it works.
Scammer: yes i do have
Scammer: i just pray this will work
Scammer: ok im gonna try this out dear
Scammer: plswait
**Me**: Okay, thank you darling.
Scammer: pls accept the invitation dear
**Me**: Yes, I will accept it now.
Scammer: thank u
Scammer: lets just pray this will work nw
**Me**: Could you please try again?
Scammer: ok deari will
**Me**: It says your cam is not available, unfortunately.
Scammer: oh gosh
Scammer: sorry
Scammer: i ry and try it dear
Scammer: u stil there david?
**Me**: Yes I am. Someday you will call me your husband.
**Me**: Your cam is still not working. That's too bad.
Scammer: yes sure..
Scammer: il be willing too
Scammer: yeah im really sorry
**Me**: I must ask you one more thing.
**Me**: This is the final question that the devil is compelling me to ask you.
Scammer: ok wat is it?
Scammer: ask anything u want dear feel free
**Me**: I know you said I can finish in your mouth or on your face.
Scammer: ok wat is it?
**Me**: But the last thing the devil makes me do is...
Scammer: yes? wat more?
**Me**: I'm so ashamed of this, and to tell you this. You are my future wife...
**Me**: ...but I need to have anal sex with you.
**Me**: Not a lot, just a few times. Once in a while.
Scammer: yeah wat is?
**Me**: After our children are born, I will need to have sex through your anal cavity.
Scammer: oh my..anal sex u mean in the anus?
**Me**: Yes, honey.
Scammer: hmmp we will see.
Scammer: yes its ok as long as u wish
**Me**: But only after the children are born.
Scammer: but not all the time? is it ok to u?
**Me**: Yes, just once a week is fine.
Scammer: yes i understand cox my pussy wil bcome bigger right?
**Me**: I must stick it in your anus, because your vagina will become large. I need to feel it tight.
**Me**: I know it is not right to say this to my future wife, but I must tell the truth, because lying is also a sin.
Scammer: oh ok, how big is urs? hehe im shy to ask u but i must know
**Me**: Dear, my penis is 6 inches.
Scammer: oh ok well its fine
**Me**: It's an average size, nothing too big.
Scammer: i think it will hurt a lot
Scammer: yes we ned to be honest also
**Me**: Yes it will hurt in the beginning, but later it doesn't hurt.
**Me**: Some women enjoy it later.
**Me**: And I will need to finish inside your anus as well.
Scammer: ohyeah i think its big. i dont know how much is long and how much is not
**Me**: Oh yes, because you are a virgin, you don't know what's big, I forgot.
**Me**: Well, don't worry, it's not too big.
Scammer: well its ok. u said i enjoy it later
Scammer: its fine. il do everything for my love
Scammer: oh ok
Scammer: ok dear
**Me**: I will stick my penis in your anus and then into your mouth. In America, and in the English-speaking world we call that, 'ass-to-mouth'.
Scammer: wattime is there?
**Me**: And of course all the anal creampies you could handle.
**Me**: Currently it is 7 AM in Las Vegas.
**Me**: I wake up everyday at 6 AM.
**Me**: Soon I will have breakfast, and go exercise.
Scammer: oh ok. wel im new to that word'
Scammer: is it enjoyable dear?
Scammer: oh ok i se
**Me**: Anal creampie? Yes, it is enjoyable.
Scammer: i see do u go to work nw?
**Me**: At least it is for me.
**Me**: But you should be able to handle it.
Scammer: oh ok. u have no work??
Scammer: ok i think il like it. as u said so
**Me**: No, I am retired.
Scammer: yeah ok
**Me**: I just have too much money and I always help the church with money.
**Me**: I give the church $50,000 every month.
Scammer: oh ok dear
Scammer: wow thats good
**Me**: I have a maid in my home, though.
**Me**: She helps me by cooking and cleaning.
**Me**: She is Filipina also.
Scammer: but u know u should also repent for ur sins not just giving the church money
**Me**: Maybe you two can be friends after we get married.
Scammer: oh ok thats good
**Me**: My maid is very young and pretty, and she is also a pure virgin. She has been working with me for three months, and she said she loves me and wants to marry me.
**Me**: Sometimes, I think I should marry her, but I'm not so sure.
Scammer: thats so kind of u. do u go to church alot?'
Scammer: yes sure
Scammer: no problem
**Me**: Yes, I go almost everyday to repent.
**Me**: I must do confession everyday.
Scammer: y ur not sure of her?
Scammer: u see me nw
**Me**: Well, she is my maid so I can't marry her now.
**Me**: I did not tell her this, but if she quits her job, I will ask her to marry me.
Scammer: yes its good for u to do confession evryday
Scammer: u see me nw??
**Me**: Yes, I see you. You are quite beautiful.
Scammer: oh pity her
Scammer: oh thank u alot
Scammer: i hope i can see u too
**Me**: I'm glad to see your cam is working.
Scammer: i think ur a very good looking man
**Me**: Can I see your body shape? I want to make sure we can make enough children.
**Me**: I am not asking you to be nude.
Scammer: now this cam FINALLY work
Scammer: wow thats good
Scammer: yes me too. im glad
Scammer: oh ok
Scammer: if u want
**Me**: I just want a healthy mother for children.
**Me**: Oh, I see. Can you turn to side?
Scammer: did u see me stand?
Scammer: ok
**Me**: Yes I did, but I cannot see if you have the body for producing good children.
Scammer: ok
**Me**: Okay, I think that is good.
Scammer: wel yes i can produce
Scammer: thanks
**Me**: I want to have at least four children.
**Me**: I think you are not too skinny, so that is good.
Scammer: yeah me too
**Me**: What is your date of birth?
Scammer: even more..
Scammer: i can handle it
Scammer: u know im a midwife
Scammer: its OCT. 9
**Me**: Okay, what year is that?
Scammer: yeah lately im fat thats y im in diet
Scammer: 1989
**Me**: Okay.
**Me**: So you are a young, tight, virgin. That's good.
Scammer: but if want i will not be in diet anymore
Scammer: wat about u?
**Me**: I'm old, but I'm in shape.
Scammer: wat is ur birthday?
Scammer: yes. stil innocent
**Me**: June 9, 1939
Scammer: yeah i beliv u
Scammer: and u think young thats nice
**Me**: Are you at home now? Or is this PC cafe?
Scammer: ohok i see belated happy b-day to u
**Me**: Thank you.
Scammer: im at home nw
Scammer: with my mom
Scammer: and my adopted sister.
**Me**: Okay, so do you want me to send some money now or later?
Scammer: now u get to see me on cam
Scammer: well, its up to u, anytime u want to send the money dear
**Me**: Okay. Hmm, I'm sorry, but is there anything else you can show me?
**Me**: I'm so sorry, but devil is acting in me again.
Scammer: well i have more to showu
**Me**: My Archbishop said it's because I am a man, but sometimes the devil controls the man like this.
Scammer: oh its ok..
Scammer: but i just ant to make sure u r serious with me
Scammer: yes i understand u
Scammer: i just wanna be sure.if its ok to u?
**Me**: Yes.
**Me**: I want to see what I will make love with after marriage.
Scammer: ok thank u. i can show u anything u want wen i find ur serious with me
Scammer: yes sure..but u know i just wanna be sure.
**Me**: Okay, I understand.
Scammer: its up to u how will u proved to me
Scammer: thanks for understanding dear
Scammer: so do u live alone in ur house with ur maid??
**Me**: Okay then, I will try to think of a way to prove it to you, and then I will let you know.
**Me**: Yes, I live alone with the maid.
**Me**: The maid has tried to kiss me many times, and sometimes I am weak, and I kiss her, too.
Scammer: oh ok thanks for understanding
Scammer: oh i see.
**Me**: She said she wants to marry me and have many children.
**Me**: And she is really God-fearing, so I like that.
Scammer: oh i see thats natural bcox u area man and sheis a woman living together
Scammer: oh i see.
Scammer: wel thats good
Scammer: so why didnt u marry her?
**Me**: I'm sorry, but I have an appointment I have to get ready for. Breakfast with Archbishop today.
**Me**: I am going to talk to him about you.
**Me**: Ask him for advice on marrying you.
Scammer: oh ok
Scammer: ok take good care
Scammer: have fun
Scammer: yeah ok sure..
Scammer: take the best of care..
**Me**: Okay, I will contact you again sweetheart. My sweet, tight pure innocent virgin girl.
**Me**: Please bear me many children, I pray to the Lord.
Scammer: ijust want u too know that GOD is always good to GOOD people even in SINNers
Scammer: ok sweetie
Scammer: ok i will
**Me**: Our wedding night, I will finish in your mouth and then kiss you.
Scammer: thanks for ur time
**Me**: We will be a hapy couple.
**Me**: Please take care.
Scammer: ok be happy..
Scammer: ok pls take care too
Scammer: be well and always beliv in god
Scammer: :-h:-*:x
Scammer: bye
**Me**: Yes I will dear. "creampie"
**Me**: Goodbye
Scammer: goodbye


She was actually getting up on cam to pose for me, and unfortunately I couldn't get her to get nude for me, as I would have loved to have saved a screen shot of that moment, as it would have been priceless... but having her move around like that on cam to show me that she could have children was priceless in and of itself.

I will contact her again, and try to get her nude on cam.

Anyway, guys, girls can say all the shit they want to you, but they can be total liars. You'll notice I kept teasing her with "God-fearing". They all are, whatever that means. I think they may be secret atheists. Who knows.

So my opinion is I agree with posters who say do not send money to people you haven't met! Even if you've met them, assess what kind of people they are when you meet them. Are they just looking for a lazy way out or do they have enough integrity to know it's unacceptable to just start asking for money?

Of course, it's not all bad news. The best girl I've met on FH so far and BY FAR is someone who I would actually want to be in a LTR with. You can tell she is truly genuine based on the things she says, and she's very well educated, graduated top of her class (which she did not tell me, but I discovered via Googling her name), and also has a fairly prestigious job working with foreigners. She has never asked me for money, obviously and was telling me to watch out for girls like that. She also said she prefers to pay for her own stuff, even when we are together, though she has agreed to let me pay for the first date.

It's safe to say I do feel a strong connection to this lady, and just hearing the certain little things she says or stories she tells me, she really is a good girl. And she definitely has no problem in telling me if she disagrees with something I say. A good, strong, woman. Maybe it helps that she's a bit older than the typical 18~20 year old FH girls. Who knows... but hey, I had to go through hundreds of FH girls before I found her. A few days ago, I discovered she shut off her profile when I tried to access it, and I asked her why, and she simply replied she didn't need it anymore. Yea, definitely a great girl.

Just remember these simple rules:

1) Don't send money prior to meeting them... Ever!
2) Even if you've met them, and they ask for money later, be cautious. I know in my case with the 'good girl' I'm talking about, she would never ask me for money even if she really had a genuine emergency.
3) Do the girls sound interested when they talk to you? Do they take too long to reply? Maybe they're juggling several different Yahoo chat windows.
4) Is she up at odd hours of the night? Does she work?

Well, there are more rules, but I'm tired of typing at this point... just use common sense and think with the big head.

Rubio Tonto
08-23-09, 08:46
I had mixed emotions reading Byung's play by play. Laughing hysterically while at the same time feeling a little bit of sympathy for the god-fearing scammer. Then again, some of us are scamming them, too, in a different way.

Andre007
08-23-09, 13:52
ROFLMAO!! I am sitting here eating popcorn reading this. Now this is classic stuff like I would do. Keep up the good work scaming the scamers.


Since joining FH, I've chatted up a lot of girls. To date, in about a one month period, I have over 300 messages in my inbox and hundreds of 'interest' indicators. I chat up the ones who are a 7 and above in terms of looks.

Out of all of them, I've met quite a few 'scammers'. As in, girls who want money. One chick wanted me to send her close to 3,000 PHP to buy a webcam so she could chat with me. She had great pictures though, of a hot Filipina with a slim figure and huge knockers. She had no money to visit a PC cafe to use their cam (of course, she had her own personal computer at home), so she wanted me to wire her money via Xoom. I then agreed to do it (not that I would), and she gave me her name, address, and details on how to create an account. Then she told me she needed money to pay for the fare to pick up the money. LOL! So I notified FH about her and they deleted her profile. She then sent me a Yahoo message, upset that I was responsible for her deleted profile.

Then there's another girl, a virgin from Cebu who on our first chat stated she needed approximately 12,000 PHP to pay for her tuition or something that would allow her to graduate. She had a deadline of last Tuesday, and I told her I couldn't help her. She said she understands. Come Tuesday, she said she was able to get an extension until Friday. Naturally, on Thursday, she asked me for money again, saying she'd scrounged up enough money and now only needed 3,000 PHP. I again told her no, and haven't heard from her since.

...and there are the others, but I won't get into it here.

Then there's one girl, who looks extremely beautiful. She looks somewhat Chinese/Korean, and is slim with a nice rack which complements her pretty face. I was camming with her, and she really is hot. I even chatted her up on the phone. Well, anyway, during the course of our several-day-relationship, she would have to say "I have to go, I have no more load in my pre-pay internet kit"...

She would tell me how it costs her 60 PHP per hour to talk to me, so she wanted to save her 'load' so she can talk to me everyday. She said it cost $50 USD (she didn't even quote pesos) to pay for her monthly internet if she were to get an unlimited free service.

Anyway, that was only a small part of the conversation. We would usually talk to each other about other things, and she was telling me how she was already in love with me, and how she dreamed of our life together, and how she would be a great wife... handling all the household chores and taking care of me.

Of course, eventually came time to sign off because she had no load in her pre-paid internet kit. So finally she then asked if I'd be willing to help her out. I told her I wish I could, but I couldn't. I told her my brother lived in Davao with his Filipina wife (scammer lives in Mindanao) and I could ask him to help her out. She kept saying that she'd rather me help her out personally, and that she didn't even have enough load in her phone to make outgoing calls to talk to them. I told her not to worry and that I will figure out a way... she then suggested Western Union.

Anyway, this girl who says she loves me and wants to marry me, doesn't need FH anymore, doesn't even need to look at another guy anymore and all this (all within a few days, WOW!)... then says she has to go offline as her internet-load is low, and that she'll talk to me later. I said okay, and that I'll send her the money in a few hours (yeah, right).

A few hours later, supposedly when she's sleeping, I see her status as online in FH. So I signed onto my Yahoo using an alias, and I just add her. She accepted within two seconds, and we started chatting. Enclosed is the entire transcript of our conversation (by the way, she has no idea what this 'fake person' looks like, so how can I be good looking? LOL. I also made up the name of the archbishop she 'knows', Fernando Martinez, haha.):

**Me**: Hello, are you there?
Scammer: hi
Scammer: hw r u?
**Me**: I'm doing quite good, and yourself?
Scammer: im fine too
Scammer: thank u
**Me**: So, are you a single lady?
Scammer: yes i am
Scammer: very single
Scammer: wat about u?
**Me**: That sounds great. I myself am single.
**Me**: So you have no boyfriend, that's good.
Scammer: great
Scammer: thats good
Scammer: wat r u looking for in a lady?
Scammer: i dont have bf yet
**Me**: Someone who is very honest, caring.
**Me**: And of course, God-fearing.
Scammer: wow thats good
Scammer: i think those qualities in me
Scammer: :">
**Me**: How old do you want your boyfriend to be?
Scammer: age doesnt matter for me
Scammer: as long as the man is serious with me
Scammer: wat about u?
**Me**: I am a little bit old, I think.
Scammer: oh how old r u?
Scammer: ?
Scammer: its fine with me
**Me**: I'm... too old, I think. =(
Scammer: as long as u are a serious man tome
Scammer: oh that doesnt matter to me
Scammer: age doesnt matter wen it comes to love
**Me**: Even 70 years old?
**Me**: I think maybe you are too young for me, now.
Scammer: wel yes as long as the man is sincere and serious to me
**Me**: Okay... because I am kind of old, and I never married or had children, so I saved up so much money now and I want to finally get married and have children, even if I'm old...
Scammer: wow u do
Scammer: i wonder y not
Scammer: with ur looks? hmmp
Scammer: i think ur very handsome'
**Me**: Even if I have lot of money, will you take advantage of me?
Scammer: yes thats a good plan
Scammer: no i wont ever do that
Scammer: im not that kind of woman who will take advantage to anyone
Scammer: im a serious type of person
**Me**: I'm glad to hear that from you.
Scammer: yes ..
Scammer: i fear GOD
Scammer: and i beliv that its a sin to take advantage to other people
**Me**: Yes, even though we think God is not watching us, he really is. And if we take advantage of God's children, he will put us in hell.
**Me**: People who take advantage should go to hell, because they break other people's trust.
**Me**: So I am glad to hear you are not like that.
Scammer: yes of course my parents discipline me so well
Scammer: so we are good children of good
**Me**: Yes. But are you willing to move to USA?
**Me**: I live in Las Vegas. So there are many casinos and sinners here.
Scammer: yes im willing to move
Scammer: and relocate
Scammer: oh hehe i see
Scammer: thats fine
**Me**: Well, if you become a good wife to me, you will inherit a lot of money. =)
**Me**: I know I can only live maybe 10 more years, but after I die, my wife will get more than $7,000,000 dollars.
Scammer: oh really? wel money isnt sop much important
Scammer: i prefer to inheret ur love more
**Me**: Do you think I should leave to church instead? I really want to help spread the word of God.
Scammer: wow thats good
Scammer: wat is ur work?
**Me**: Well, it's a secret, but I used to build casinos.
**Me**: I would own casino for a few years and sell it to someone else.
**Me**: I feel bad, because gambling is a sin.
Scammer: yes u should and i will help u spread words of god
Scammer: oh thats good
**Me**: So that's why I want to give all the money back to church.
Scammer: yes its a sin as long as uplay a lot
**Me**: I want to give everything to the church... my money, my cars, my airplane, my homes...
Scammer: but if we play sometimes
Scammer: its just a pastime
**Me**: That's why I want to find a simple girl who doesn't care about money.
Scammer: oh the church is really fortunate
Scammer: yeah..
Scammer: maybe thats me
**Me**: Yes, the Archbishop is my dear friend.
**Me**: He is a Filipino-American.
Scammer: wow really?
Scammer: whos he?
Scammer: maybe i know him'
**Me**: Yes, well this is in Las Vegas.
**Me**: His name is Fernando.
**Me**: But can I ask you a question; how many boyfriends did you have?
Scammer: wat is his fulname?
Scammer: i have ONCE
Scammer: and been very hurt
Scammer: he cheated me
**Me**: Fernando Martinez is his full name.
Scammer: nw i dont wanna be hurt anymore
**Me**: And you really don't have a boyfriend anymore?
**Me**: You are so pretty, I'm sure you have a good looking young man for a boyfriend.
Scammer: oh yeah i know him
Scammer: he is good man
**Me**: Oh wow, that's great. =)
Scammer: ive heared
Scammer: i dont have bf anymore
**Me**: Wow, even though you are so pretty, you don't have a boyfriend. That is so hard to believe.
Scammer: yeah i dont have
Scammer: y should i lie\
**Me**: It's just difficult to trust people.
Scammer: i am so picky in choosing a man nw
Scammer: cox i dont wanna be hurt anymore
**Me**: This is a personal question, but I must ask: are you a virgin?
Scammer: yeah iunderstand me either
Scammer: but wen u find the true love we ned to trust
Scammer: is it very important to u?
**Me**: It is somewhat important to me, as I need to find a pure woman.
Scammer: oh thats good
Scammer: i am pure
Scammer: i beliv purity is very sacred for GOD
**Me**: So I will be your first man for sex?
Scammer: yes if we have given a chance
Scammer: i beliv that sex is importand before marriage
**Me**: Okay, maybe you are the right one for me.
Scammer: GOD"S word
Scammer: wow thank u for considering me as
Scammer: u right one
**Me**: Yes, I only consider you because you are a virgin, you do not care about money, and you are God-fearing.
**Me**: ...and because you do not have another boyfriend.
Scammer: wow thank u so much
**Me**: Do you think it's possible we can marry next month?
Scammer: yes i dont have another man
**Me**: I can give your parents a dowry of $100,000 to marry you.
Scammer: yes sure if u want too
**Me**: Would you rather $100,000 to church or to your parents? I know God is very important to you.
Scammer: wow thats a lot, wel my parents is not materialistic
Scammer: not necesary to give them but if u wanna help itsok
**Me**: Well, from someone so God-fearing like you and your parents, probably they would rather have it go to church then. That's fine, I will give to the church so we can help people.
Scammer: yes wel my family is very important to me too. i prefer to split it half to church for GOdD and half to my family
Scammer: if u will allow me
**Me**: Oh I see. Yes, I can give your parents $50,000 and $50,000 to church then.
Scammer: yes
**Me**: And I will take your virginity.
**Me**: And I hope to have children with you.
**Me**: I'm not sure if in my old age I can still produce sperm for children, but I hope I can do it.
Scammer: yes sure..
Scammer: wel any u want to have child
**Me**: But, I'm so ashamed, because as much as I love God, I am also a sinner.
Scammer: yes of course god will give u a child
Scammer: cox u r a good person
**Me**: My sin is that I like when woman gives me oral sex. I know it's not good, but I feel like I must have it.
**Me**: I'm so ashamed of myself.
Scammer: yeah but u know GOD sacrificehis love for our sins
**Me**: I'm so ashamed, but can you provide oral sex for me?
Scammer: and im sure GOD will pardon ur sins
**Me**: I really need to find the right girl for this.
Scammer: as long as u repent for ur sins
**Me**: To marry and love.
Scammer: oh wel if u want too
Scammer: y not
**Me**: Is it okay if I finish in your mouth? That is another one of my deep sins.
Scammer: i maybe not the best but i can try harder
Scammer: wow great maybe its me
Scammer: wooohhh..
Scammer: wel i can try
**Me**: I'm so happy to hear that you are willing to do this for me, to possibly be my wife.
Scammer: i can try to
**Me**: Of course, I will only touch you after I marry you.
**Me**: Only after you are my wife I will ask you to do this.
Scammer: yeah sure.
Scammer: u know wen i love a person im wlling to do everything
Scammer: wow thank u
**Me**: I really want to say this first, to let you know beforehand, that I am a sinner, too.
**Me**: If anything you are not okay with, I understand. So I have to tell you all of this now.
Scammer: wel its ok to me
Scammer: i will be here for u
**Me**: After you give me oral sex, sometimes I need to finish onto your face. Sometimes, the devil makes me do these horrible things. But I really must finish and shoot my sperm on your face.
Scammer: even if u are a sinner
Scammer: oh yeah,,wel i can try
**Me**: I spoke with Fernando Gonzalez, the Archbishop about this, and he is praying for me.
Scammer: ilbe willing to if its ur wish
Scammer: but sometimes u must resist the devil
Scammer: wow thats good
**Me**: Okay, so you will give me oral sex and I can finish in your mouth and on your face. That is good to hear. I will try to resist the devil, but sometimes I must do this to you, I'm sorry dear.
Scammer: yeah i understand u..
Scammer: its ok to me
Scammer: no problem
Scammer: do u have a cam?
Scammer: i wanna see u
**Me**: No, I'm sorry but I don't have one. I'm too old, so I never bought a cam.
**Me**: Do you have a cam?
Scammer: oh ok i see
Scammer: i dont have it too
Scammer: by now but im gonna try it for u
Scammer: if u want
**Me**: Can you send me any pictures?
Scammer: yeah sure
Scammer: plsaccept dear.
Scammer: wat is ur screen name in FH?
**Me**: By the way, I would like to send you some money to help you out if you need some.
**Me**: You don't know my name?
Scammer: really? im ashame
**Me**: I thought you knew who I am.
Scammer: i know u DAVID
**Me**: But would you like me to send you some money to help you and your family for now?
Scammer: i knew u but i just want to make sure
**Me**: Do you have any pictures where I can see your whole body? I want to see if your body is good to have children.
Scammer: well im ashamed on u bcox its our frst time to talk
Scammer: and u will give me money?
Scammer: why would u do that?
**Me**: Because I think you will be my wife.
Scammer: well yes sure
**Me**: I only want to send you $1,000.
**Me**: Just to help you a little bit.
Scammer: oh i see thank u for that
Scammer: well its up to u..
Scammer: i also ned to have internet connection so i can chat with u anytime u want
**Me**: Well, if you are ashamed, I understand that.
**Me**: Oh, well how much does the internet connection cost?
**Me**: I can pay for your internet then.
Scammer: thats my full body pic wen im stil on school
Scammer: its just 150dollars in us money dear
**Me**: I'm sorry my dear, but these pictures do not come out so good. They are very blurry, so I cannot see.
Scammer: really? thanks but im shy..
**Me**: Okay, so instead of $1,000, I can just send you $150 for internet. I don't want you to feel ashamed so I understand you.
Scammer: ur anice man and i dont want to take advantage on u
Scammer: oh sorry pls wait dear soon it will be appear clear anytime soon
Scammer: sorry my prepaid kit signal is really slow
Scammer: i wish i can have internet connection
**Me**: I understand.
Scammer: yes of course if u insist
**Me**: I really wish you had a cam so I can see how you look in person. Do you have a neighbor who has a cam?
**Me**: Maybe you can borrow it.
Scammer: thank u in advance but i will assure u i will be faithfull and true to u
Scammer: no dear, i dont have a neighbor with a cam
Scammer: they also dont have a computer
**Me**: Well, I hope these are really pictures of you.
Scammer: its on a net cafe
Scammer: yes its really me.
Scammer: thats me, if u want i can buy a cam tomorow
Scammer: then u can see me on cam'
**Me**: Well, before I send the money, I would like to see you on cam. Just to make sure, I hope you understand.
Scammer: yeah sure.
**Me**: Unfortunately dear, the photos are still blurry.
Scammer: mybe i will try my cam now but this cam dont work for many time
Scammer: times..huhu:((
Scammer: oh so sorry
**Me**: Oh, you have an old cam?
**Me**: Sure, maybe you can try it anyway.
**Me**: Let's see if it works.
Scammer: yes i do have
Scammer: i just pray this will work
Scammer: ok im gonna try this out dear
Scammer: plswait
**Me**: Okay, thank you darling.
Scammer: pls accept the invitation dear
**Me**: Yes, I will accept it now.
Scammer: thank u
Scammer: lets just pray this will work nw
**Me**: Could you please try again?
Scammer: ok deari will
**Me**: It says your cam is not available, unfortunately.
Scammer: oh gosh
Scammer: sorry
Scammer: i ry and try it dear
Scammer: u stil there david?
**Me**: Yes I am. Someday you will call me your husband.
**Me**: Your cam is still not working. That's too bad.
Scammer: yes sure..
Scammer: il be willing too
Scammer: yeah im really sorry
**Me**: I must ask you one more thing.
**Me**: This is the final question that the devil is compelling me to ask you.
Scammer: ok wat is it?
Scammer: ask anything u want dear feel free
**Me**: I know you said I can finish in your mouth or on your face.
Scammer: ok wat is it?
**Me**: But the last thing the devil makes me do is...
Scammer: yes? wat more?
**Me**: I'm so ashamed of this, and to tell you this. You are my future wife...
**Me**: ...but I need to have anal sex with you.
**Me**: Not a lot, just a few times. Once in a while.
Scammer: yeah wat is?
**Me**: After our children are born, I will need to have sex through your anal cavity.
Scammer: oh my..anal sex u mean in the anus?
**Me**: Yes, honey.
Scammer: hmmp we will see.
Scammer: yes its ok as long as u wish
**Me**: But only after the children are born.
Scammer: but not all the time? is it ok to u?
**Me**: Yes, just once a week is fine.
Scammer: yes i understand cox my pussy wil bcome bigger right?
**Me**: I must stick it in your anus, because your vagina will become large. I need to feel it tight.
**Me**: I know it is not right to say this to my future wife, but I must tell the truth, because lying is also a sin.
Scammer: oh ok, how big is urs? hehe im shy to ask u but i must know
**Me**: Dear, my penis is 6 inches.
Scammer: oh ok well its fine
**Me**: It's an average size, nothing too big.
Scammer: i think it will hurt a lot
Scammer: yes we ned to be honest also
**Me**: Yes it will hurt in the beginning, but later it doesn't hurt.
**Me**: Some women enjoy it later.
**Me**: And I will need to finish inside your anus as well.
Scammer: ohyeah i think its big. i dont know how much is long and how much is not
**Me**: Oh yes, because you are a virgin, you don't know what's big, I forgot.
**Me**: Well, don't worry, it's not too big.
Scammer: well its ok. u said i enjoy it later
Scammer: its fine. il do everything for my love
Scammer: oh ok
Scammer: ok dear
**Me**: I will stick my penis in your anus and then into your mouth. In America, and in the English-speaking world we call that, 'ass-to-mouth'.
Scammer: wattime is there?
**Me**: And of course all the anal creampies you could handle.
**Me**: Currently it is 7 AM in Las Vegas.
**Me**: I wake up everyday at 6 AM.
**Me**: Soon I will have breakfast, and go exercise.
Scammer: oh ok. wel im new to that word'
Scammer: is it enjoyable dear?
Scammer: oh ok i se
**Me**: Anal creampie? Yes, it is enjoyable.
Scammer: i see do u go to work nw?
**Me**: At least it is for me.
**Me**: But you should be able to handle it.
Scammer: oh ok. u have no work??
Scammer: ok i think il like it. as u said so
**Me**: No, I am retired.
Scammer: yeah ok
**Me**: I just have too much money and I always help the church with money.
**Me**: I give the church $50,000 every month.
Scammer: oh ok dear
Scammer: wow thats good
**Me**: I have a maid in my home, though.
**Me**: She helps me by cooking and cleaning.
**Me**: She is Filipina also.
Scammer: but u know u should also repent for ur sins not just giving the church money
**Me**: Maybe you two can be friends after we get married.
Scammer: oh ok thats good
**Me**: My maid is very young and pretty, and she is also a pure virgin. She has been working with me for three months, and she said she loves me and wants to marry me.
**Me**: Sometimes, I think I should marry her, but I'm not so sure.
Scammer: thats so kind of u. do u go to church alot?'
Scammer: yes sure
Scammer: no problem
**Me**: Yes, I go almost everyday to repent.
**Me**: I must do confession everyday.
Scammer: y ur not sure of her?
Scammer: u see me nw
**Me**: Well, she is my maid so I can't marry her now.
**Me**: I did not tell her this, but if she quits her job, I will ask her to marry me.
Scammer: yes its good for u to do confession evryday
Scammer: u see me nw??
**Me**: Yes, I see you. You are quite beautiful.
Scammer: oh pity her
Scammer: oh thank u alot
Scammer: i hope i can see u too
**Me**: I'm glad to see your cam is working.
Scammer: i think ur a very good looking man
**Me**: Can I see your body shape? I want to make sure we can make enough children.
**Me**: I am not asking you to be nude.
Scammer: now this cam FINALLY work
Scammer: wow thats good
Scammer: yes me too. im glad
Scammer: oh ok
Scammer: if u want
**Me**: I just want a healthy mother for children.
**Me**: Oh, I see. Can you turn to side?
Scammer: did u see me stand?
Scammer: ok
**Me**: Yes I did, but I cannot see if you have the body for producing good children.
Scammer: ok
**Me**: Okay, I think that is good.
Scammer: wel yes i can produce
Scammer: thanks
**Me**: I want to have at least four children.
**Me**: I think you are not too skinny, so that is good.
Scammer: yeah me too
**Me**: What is your date of birth?
Scammer: even more..
Scammer: i can handle it
Scammer: u know im a midwife
Scammer: its OCT. 9
**Me**: Okay, what year is that?
Scammer: yeah lately im fat thats y im in diet
Scammer: 1989
**Me**: Okay.
**Me**: So you are a young, tight, virgin. That's good.
Scammer: but if want i will not be in diet anymore
Scammer: wat about u?
**Me**: I'm old, but I'm in shape.
Scammer: wat is ur birthday?
Scammer: yes. stil innocent
**Me**: June 9, 1939
Scammer: yeah i beliv u
Scammer: and u think young thats nice
**Me**: Are you at home now? Or is this PC cafe?
Scammer: ohok i see belated happy b-day to u
**Me**: Thank you.
Scammer: im at home nw
Scammer: with my mom
Scammer: and my adopted sister.
**Me**: Okay, so do you want me to send some money now or later?
Scammer: now u get to see me on cam
Scammer: well, its up to u, anytime u want to send the money dear
**Me**: Okay. Hmm, I'm sorry, but is there anything else you can show me?
**Me**: I'm so sorry, but devil is acting in me again.
Scammer: well i have more to showu
**Me**: My Archbishop said it's because I am a man, but sometimes the devil controls the man like this.
Scammer: oh its ok..
Scammer: but i just ant to make sure u r serious with me
Scammer: yes i understand u
Scammer: i just wanna be sure.if its ok to u?
**Me**: Yes.
**Me**: I want to see what I will make love with after marriage.
Scammer: ok thank u. i can show u anything u want wen i find ur serious with me
Scammer: yes sure..but u know i just wanna be sure.
**Me**: Okay, I understand.
Scammer: its up to u how will u proved to me
Scammer: thanks for understanding dear
Scammer: so do u live alone in ur house with ur maid??
**Me**: Okay then, I will try to think of a way to prove it to you, and then I will let you know.
**Me**: Yes, I live alone with the maid.
**Me**: The maid has tried to kiss me many times, and sometimes I am weak, and I kiss her, too.
Scammer: oh ok thanks for understanding
Scammer: oh i see.
**Me**: She said she wants to marry me and have many children.
**Me**: And she is really God-fearing, so I like that.
Scammer: oh i see thats natural bcox u area man and sheis a woman living together
Scammer: oh i see.
Scammer: wel thats good
Scammer: so why didnt u marry her?
**Me**: I'm sorry, but I have an appointment I have to get ready for. Breakfast with Archbishop today.
**Me**: I am going to talk to him about you.
**Me**: Ask him for advice on marrying you.
Scammer: oh ok
Scammer: ok take good care
Scammer: have fun
Scammer: yeah ok sure..
Scammer: take the best of care..
**Me**: Okay, I will contact you again sweetheart. My sweet, tight pure innocent virgin girl.
**Me**: Please bear me many children, I pray to the Lord.
Scammer: ijust want u too know that GOD is always good to GOOD people even in SINNers
Scammer: ok sweetie
Scammer: ok i will
**Me**: Our wedding night, I will finish in your mouth and then kiss you.
Scammer: thanks for ur time
**Me**: We will be a hapy couple.
**Me**: Please take care.
Scammer: ok be happy..
Scammer: ok pls take care too
Scammer: be well and always beliv in god
Scammer: :-h:-*:x
Scammer: bye
**Me**: Yes I will dear. "creampie"
**Me**: Goodbye
Scammer: goodbye


She was actually getting up on cam to pose for me, and unfortunately I couldn't get her to get nude for me, as I would have loved to have saved a screen shot of that moment, as it would have been priceless... but having her move around like that on cam to show me that she could have children was priceless in and of itself.

I will contact her again, and try to get her nude on cam.

Anyway, guys, girls can say all the shit they want to you, but they can be total liars. You'll notice I kept teasing her with "God-fearing". They all are, whatever that means. I think they may be secret atheists. Who knows.

So my opinion is I agree with posters who say do not send money to people you haven't met! Even if you've met them, assess what kind of people they are when you meet them. Are they just looking for a lazy way out or do they have enough integrity to know it's unacceptable to just start asking for money?

Of course, it's not all bad news. The best girl I've met on FH so far and BY FAR is someone who I would actually want to be in a LTR with. You can tell she is truly genuine based on the things she says, and she's very well educated, graduated top of her class (which she did not tell me, but I discovered via Googling her name), and also has a fairly prestigious job working with foreigners. She has never asked me for money, obviously and was telling me to watch out for girls like that. She also said she prefers to pay for her own stuff, even when we are together, though she has agreed to let me pay for the first date.

It's safe to say I do feel a strong connection to this lady, and just hearing the certain little things she says or stories she tells me, she really is a good girl. And she definitely has no problem in telling me if she disagrees with something I say. A good, strong, woman. Maybe it helps that she's a bit older than the typical 18~20 year old FH girls. Who knows... but hey, I had to go through hundreds of FH girls before I found her. A few days ago, I discovered she shut off her profile when I tried to access it, and I asked her why, and she simply replied she didn't need it anymore. Yea, definitely a great girl.

Just remember these simple rules:

1) Don't send money prior to meeting them... Ever!
2) Even if you've met them, and they ask for money later, be cautious. I know in my case with the 'good girl' I'm talking about, she would never ask me for money even if she really had a genuine emergency.
3) Do the girls sound interested when they talk to you? Do they take too long to reply? Maybe they're juggling several different Yahoo chat windows.
4) Is she up at odd hours of the night? Does she work?

Well, there are more rules, but I'm tired of typing at this point... just use common sense and think with the big head.

Dreamplay 767
08-23-09, 16:05
For those of you looking for opportunities to do non-pros, here are some tips.

1. (I usually take PAL to Manila, but if you fly foreign airlines, there are usually 1~2 local Filipino flight attendants so look for them.)

Me: Excuse me, can I ask you a question?
Her: Sure
Me: What is the most popular mobile carrier in the Philippines?
Her: Globe
Me: Is that what you use?
Her: Yes
Me: Is that the one that starts with 095?
Her: Actually, 091.
Me: Oh, you use Globe and it starts with 091?
Her: Yes
Me: ... and?
Her: What?
Me: How does the rest of it go? (Now I have a friendly and blatant smirk on my face)
Her: (She smiles back.) You want my number?
Me: Sure, it's my first time in Manila and it would be nice to know a local.
Her: OK, it's xxxxxxxxxx
Me: Thanks, I'll text you when I get into town.

***

Did I meet her? Yes
Did I get to bang her? Not a chance.
She had a boyfriend, a co-pilot for PAL, and she would mention him every 5 minutes of our conversation, which I understood as "You're not going to bone me tonight no matter what you do." So I let her go at about 8pm and took a cab straight to EDSA.


2. When you buy your SIM card, shop around. Look for a stall with a salesgirl that attracts you.

Me: I'd like a SIM card, please.
Her: Here
Me: I'm not familiar with this phone. Can you insert it for me?
Her: Sure. Here you go.
Me: How do I top up? How do I know how much I have left?
(Now I'm asking a bunch of basic questions, while smiling, to carry on the conversation, making sure that I'm not holding up anyone behind me.)
Me: Can you please make sure that it works? Can you call your phone and check?
Her: OK. See, it works fine.
(Now I have her number and she has mine.)
Me: What time do you finish?
(And the rest is history.)

***

Did I meet her? Yes
Did I do her? Most definitely.

But there was a huge drawback. She worked at a stall in Glorietta right across from my hotel, and I had to make a big detour whenever I went into the mall to make sure that she didn't see me. Besides, I was constantly on alert whenever I met another girl in or around the Ayala Center because she could just pop out of anywhere.

As they say, "Be careful what you wish for."

Chocha Monger
08-23-09, 18:08
08/20/2009

The Bureau of Immigration (BI) has deported an Israeli man accused of tricking Filipino women into having sex with him in exchange for a better life abroad.

Daniel Berner, 37, was deported Wednesday on board a Cathay Pacific flight bound for Hongkong and Tokyo enroute to Tel Aviv, Israel.

Immigration chief Marcelino Libanan said the Israeli, who disguised himself as a Canadian and goes by many aliases, had victimized several Filipinas whom he had duped by sending them e-mails via the Internet.

“He would usually promise his victims that he would marry them and bring them with him to Canada if they got pregnant with his child, thus he would entice them to have sex with him," Libanan said in a statement.

Epifanio Lambino Jr., acting assistant chief of the bureau’s Law Enforcement Division (LED) said they first found out about Berner when one of his victims sought the help of a television station, which in turn referred the case to the BI.

Berner was finally apprehended by the LED during an entrapment operation on July 29 at the Greenbelt Mall in Makati City.

After the arrest, the BI board of commissioners issued the deportation order against him. He has also been included in the bureau’s blacklist.

“Sex perverts like him (Berner) who exploit and take advantage of our women should be expelled and banned from re-entering our country," said Libanan.

The BI chief said the Israeli entered the country as a tourist and was staying in the Philippines on a fraudulent passport.

The BI also found out that Berner is wanted in Japan, Great Britain, and Canada for engaging in similar Internet fraud schemes and that a US$50,000 reward for his arrest has already been put up by authorities in Tokyo. - Kimberly Jane T. Tan, GMANews.TV

South by SW 2
08-23-09, 19:15
I realize this isn't exactly on topic, but it is hopefully in the spirit of the thread.

I have my Philippines cell phone set to international roaming. I drop a 100 pesos on it every few months so I can keep my number.

One side effect is that I get a steady drip of text messages from unidentifiable phone numbers.

Given how often Filipinas lose their phones, borrow their friend's because they are out of load, etc. I'm sure at least a couple of them are women I want to stay in touch with, but the rest are women I'm avoiding or ones who got my number second or third-hand.

My previous phone (a Samsung?) had a handy phone number block option that my current Nokia seems to lack.

I have toyed with the idea of getting a new SIM and, before I swap it, replying to all the anonymous text messages in the past month and asking, "Do I know you?"

If they are someone I want to keep in touch with, I give them my new number, otherwise they vanish when I switch numbers.

How do the you guys handle the UTMs?

- SbySW

X Man
08-24-09, 01:44
I'd say your post is very relevant to this thread. The whole goal of chat (for most of us) is to eventually meet the target...and usually that's done by phone/text.

Yes, what you described is very aggravating. I just reply: Name and city please. Of course, you'll get the "oh, you forgot me!" messages.

Sometimes that doesn't work as my last trip I had an AC bargirl tell me she was in Manila which really threw me off. I finally called her and discovered she was a cherry girl that I met on my first day in AC (T of Class) and was in MNL visiting family.

Even more aggravating my last trip were some of DIA contacts. We had communicated on DIA and I told them which month I would be in town. In my text I clearly wrote my name and the city I live in. I still got a few replies, "who are you?" I suppose what they really wanted to ask is, "Of the five web matchmaking sites I belong to, which one did I meet you on, and what is your handle?"

X



I realize this isn't exactly on topic, but it is hopefully in the spirit of the thread.

I have my Philippines cell phone set to international roaming. I drop a 100 pesos on it every few months so I can keep my number.

One side effect is that I get a steady drip of text messages from unidentifiable phone numbers.

Given how often Filipinas lose their phones, borrow their friend's because they are out of load, etc. I'm sure at least a couple of them are women I want to stay in touch with, but the rest are women I'm avoiding or ones who got my number second or third-hand.

My previous phone (a Samsung?) had a handy phone number block option that my current Nokia seems to lack.

I have toyed with the idea of getting a new SIM and, before I swap it, replying to all the anonymous text messages in the past month and asking, "Do I know you?"

If they are someone I want to keep in touch with, I give them my new number, otherwise they vanish when I switch numbers.

How do the you guys handle the UTMs?

- SbySW

Robbaf
08-24-09, 13:02
For those of you looking for opportunities to do non-pros, here are some tips.

2. When you buy your SIM card, shop around. Look for a stall with a salesgirl that attracts you.

As they say, "Be careful what you wish for."
I used this five years ago when I brought a new cell phone. The sales girl was married to an Indian and after texting her for two days, he called me and asked why I was texting his wife. I laughed and told him, wrong answer, your wife put her number into my phone and she is texting me. If you have a problem talk to her and he replied, thanks, you are right. :D

Amavida
08-26-09, 06:59
Given how often Filipinas lose their phones, borrow their friend's because they are out of load, etc. I'm sure at least a couple of them are women I want to stay in touch with, but the rest are women I'm avoiding or ones who got my number second or third-hand.

How do the you guys handle the UTMs?I don't dick around anymore. Gone are the days when i drove myself crazy trying to figure out who is who.
I txt back 'whoz dis?' once. If I don't get a straight answer I ignore. If they are motivated they will chase me up, if not, then they are not worth my time. There is always _PLENTY_ more fish in the sea here.

AV

Robbaf
08-26-09, 14:33
I don't dick around anymore. Gone are the days when i drove myself crazy trying to figure out who is who.
I txt back 'whoz dis?' once. If I don't get a straight answer I ignore. If they are motivated they will chase me up, if not, then they are not worth my time. There is always _PLENTY_ more fish in the sea here.

AV
A Filipino also told me to text that. That way they don't know if it is a local or foreigner who is replying. I love to receive text asking to be my textmate and when I reply "whoz dis?", I get "I am so and so", and that my friend gave them my number, but they don't know the friend's name or my name. Most of the time I save them in my cell as scammer, so if they text again I know not to reply at all. I have one who has been texting me for 6 months and I have yet to reply once:) maybe she knows me?

X Man
08-26-09, 14:54
Robbaf, I really feel for you guys who live in Philippines and have to endure such hardship as women texting you for six months straight. Poor guy.

Also, thanks AV for the "whoz dis" advice. I know I'm not on your Friendster list, but it would be interesting to have more of the common chat friend translations. Sometimes the Filipinas have some very clever usages. Or maybe I'm just old and not "with it".

On my August trip I had numerous text messages in Japanese. I replied to a few in Japanese, but mostly in English. I could never figure out who it was. Finally, I said, "I'm American and would prefer to use English.". She responded, "Oh, really!" and I never heard from her again.

That's a mystery.

Although I think AV has an excellent strategy, I'm the collector type. I can NOT throw anything away. I still have a bondi blue non-functioning iMac and I still have phone numbers from four years ago. A few of these numbers have worked unexpectedly in that the number has been assigned to someone else.

X Man


A Filipino also told me to text that. That way they don't know if it is a local or foreigner who is replying. I love to receive text asking to be my textmate and when I reply "whoz dis?", I get "I am so and so", and that my friend gave them my number, but they don't know the friend's name or my name. Most of the time I save them in my cell as scammer, so if they text again I know not to reply at all. I have one who has been texting me for 6 months and I have yet to reply once:) maybe she knows me?

Warbucks
08-27-09, 04:17
I don't dick around anymore. Gone are the days when i drove myself crazy trying to figure out who is who.
I txt back 'whoz dis?' once. If I don't get a straight answer I ignore. If they are motivated they will chase me up, if not, then they are not worth my time. There is always _PLENTY_ more fish in the sea here.

AV

UTMs are a another hazard of our hobby. I never reply back unless it's my two WG home girls or some non-pros that I know. Hell a UTM might be your ole lady or one of your ole ladies trying to see if your being faithful you never know.

X Man
08-27-09, 07:31
Good point D'etat / Warbucks / illogic and good friend of AV (aka AVD), good thing I don't live in the Philippines, or things would be really complicated.

Curious, UTM means "unknown text message", so how is it that you would never reply back unless you know who it is? Maybe superior powers of ESP?

Maybe you meant to write, I never reply back to people I don't know. Us lower people who only come to the Philippines on holiday don't have such a luxury. Good hearing from you D'etat. X




UTMs are a another hazard of our hobby. I never reply back unless it's my two WG home girls or some non-pros that I know. Hell a UTM might be your ole lady or one of your ole ladies trying to see if your being faithful you never know.

Warbucks
08-27-09, 08:35
Maybe you meant to write....

You must be back at work :D

I never reply back no matter if I know them or not unless it is from those before mentioned ladies who are cool with me.

X Man
08-27-09, 08:52
At work?

Monday I was at Onjuku beach. Tuesday I showed my face in the office for a few hours and discussed weekend strategy. Today, I'm just hanging at my apartment looking out over the park. I was thinking about bicycling out to Yoyogi park, but after a glass of wine I feel lazy.

I'll definitely have to go to work on Saturday and things get busy from Monday.

Feel free to give me all the numbers of the ladies you ignore.

Take care warbucks.


You must be back at work :D

I never reply back no matter if I know them or not unless it is from those before mentioned ladies who are cool with me.

South by SW 2
08-27-09, 09:46
Hell a UTM might be your ole lady or one of your ole ladies trying to see if your being faithful you never know.

I've gotten the "Hi I'm a friend of [current f-buddy] and I'd like to meet you." text. More than half the time it's going to be a test by your current f-buddy to confirm what a horn dog you are. Quite possibly she's the one typing it on her friend's phone.

I don't answer UTMs, so I haven't had to ponder the chances that they would send a completely anonymous one. That's one more angle to consider.

SbySw

Robbaf
08-27-09, 22:45
Robbaf, I really feel for you guys who live in Philippines and have to endure such hardship as women texting you for six months straight. Poor guy.

X ManSounds great X, but I receive an average of 150 text a day! If you don't think that it is a pain in the ass:( I got three text yesteray from girls that I met with a year ago, wondering how I am doing and if I am busy. I carry two cells. One only for work and one for play. It is almost time to change out the play sim and start again.

The girl that keeps texting me some how got my work number, so that isn't good for me.

With Globe and Smart unlimted text for 20P a day, they can text and text and text:(

Robb

Amavida
08-29-09, 16:54
I've gotten the "Hi I'm a friend of [current f-buddy] and I'd like to meet you." text. More than half the time it's going to be a test by your current f-buddy to confirm what a horn dog you are. Quite possibly she's the one typing it on her friend's phone.

I don't answer UTMs, so I haven't had to ponder the chances that they would send a completely anonymous one. That's one more angle to consider.

SbySwHey SbySw, another source of these UTM's is legit business or personal transactions where sales girls/accounts clerks/bank tellers lift your CP # from an invoice or business card & start texting you unbidden. I suspect they just want to practice their english & are curious but too shy to actually date a 'poriner'. This happens to me a lot from cell phone recharge stations, in building supplies stores, banks etc. Seems more prevalent outside Manila in the provinces.

Its not worth wasting time worrying about unless you are hit on immediately by a notably hot chick.

And of course we have the odd bakla pissing about with you anonymously.

If you are in a LTR these UTM's can be like throwing gasoline on the flame of your pinay's highly developed jealously/distrust.

AV

Eaglestar
08-30-09, 21:15
I just stumbled across an interestingly written profile on DIA. The name on profile is Suddenblue08 with a rather foxy looking lady's photo

Anyone ever tried her on? She sounds interesting

ES

Andre007
08-31-09, 07:59
I just stumbled across an interestingly written profile on DIA. The name on profile is Suddenblue08 with a rather foxy looking lady's photo

Anyone ever tried her on? She sounds interesting

ESLadyboy alert. Too much makeup, to much BS in profile and 5:5 or over. IMHO

Spook
09-01-09, 09:30
I just stumbled across an interestingly written profile on DIA. The name on profile is Suddenblue08 with a rather foxy looking lady's photo

Anyone ever tried her on? She sounds interesting

ESDamn! Its a scary world if a bloke might be able to look like that! I think you should persue Suddenblue08 in the interests of research and then report your findings back to your fellow mongers here.

Rubio Tonto
09-01-09, 23:03
Those are some thick fingers and possibly unnaturally large breasts. Danger Will Robinson!!

FreebieFan
09-02-09, 00:28
the poor he/ she /it is wondering " how come I used to get 10 viewers a day and now I'm getting 100.

Blizz
09-06-09, 10:18
Hey Guys,

After having used Date in asia and feedback here on ISG, I want to give a paid dating site a try.

Right now i am considering:

- filipinaheart.com
- cherryblossoms.com

So your advice on which one might be best will be appreciated.

I do have a free profile on both. FH looks more professional, while the girls on CB seems nicer. The costs would be comparable, so what are your experiences so far. Or on any other dating site.

Thanks!

Spook
09-07-09, 12:26
Hey Guys,

After having used Date in asia and feedback here on ISG, I want to give a paid dating site a try.

Right now i am considering:

- filipinaheart.com
- cherryblossoms.com

So your advice on which one might be best will be appreciated.

I do have a free profile on both. FH looks more professional, while the girls on CB seems nicer. The costs would be comparable, so what are your experiences so far. Or on any other dating site.

Thanks!Personally I prefer FH; whilst I did use Cherry Blossoms a few years ago I only got one fuck out of it; I have had loads from FH and, as you say, FH is more professionally laid out.

Having said that I only use DIA now; it's free (wonder how they make their money) and contains exactly what I want.

X Man
09-09-09, 14:28
I had good luck with CB, but didn't like the fact that I couldn't get / send contact info immediately. You have to exchange messages at least once before YOU can give your contact info. Ridiculous IMHO. I used them two years ago, so I don't know if they still have this policy. CB is okay, but might be better for the wife hunting type of guy.

You might also consider where you will be. I eventually picked CB because they had a lot of women from Mindanao, which was my destination at the time.

DIA has the big disadvantage in that they have only one pic. DIA may be free, but your holiday is not. You can spend a lot of time on cam checking them out (advised, but time consuming), or waste time meeting women who are as ugly as sin.

For newer members, I would receommend the pay sites.

One of the toughest things for me was keeping track of all the women and their pictures and their contact info.

X






Hey Guys,

After having used Date in asia and feedback here on ISG, I want to give a paid dating site a try.

Right now i am considering:

- filipinaheart.com
- cherryblossoms.com

So your advice on which one might be best will be appreciated.

I do have a free profile on both. FH looks more professional, while the girls on CB seems nicer. The costs would be comparable, so what are your experiences so far. Or on any other dating site.

Thanks!

Amavida
09-10-09, 04:52
Hey Guys, After having used Date in asia and feedback here on ISG, I want to give a paid dating site a try.

Right now i am considering: - filipinaheart.com - cherryblossoms.com

So your advice on which one might be best will be appreciated.'Strike rate' on both is erratic & comparable. I say hit _all_ the dating sites at once. Its amazing how you see the same faces turn up .. hint hint.. ;)
It can be fun getting girls from dating sites but can quickly become time consuming & more like work than fun. Most girls are using a shotgun approach. Most girls have a different handle "screen name" on each site (cutejoy26 on CB, wowmari75 on DIA etc ), an unrelated email address (hothelen90@yahoo.com.ph), a different yahoo IM handle (snowwhite217@yahoo.com), a borrowed cell phone number and about 37 internet boyfriends all chatting simultaneously.. not much chance of anything meaningful happening here :D

AV

Yella Man
09-10-09, 05:47
hey guys,

after having used date in asia and feedback here on isg, i want to give a paid dating site a try.

thanks!

unless you're taking a very long vacation in the phils, just hit the malls, clubs and other filipina gathering places. smile a lot (i mean a lot fellas!), make as much eye contact as you can with every girl who will look your way, strike up conversations with every girl you come into contact with (even if you're not interested) to hone your hunting skills, and don't be afraid to ask the girls for their cell numbers...do all of this even if this is not your normal mode of operation in your home country, or even if this kind of interaction with the ladies makes you uncomfortable. the more you do it, the more natural and comfortable you will become. do it because it is guaranteed to get you laid a handful of times during your stay. as you get better at it, you can single out the women who most interest you and concentrate on them. finally, move around a lot. stay in one place too long and you'll discover just how small the philippines is, and how very large and intricate the grapevine can become. it's very fun and challenging to branch out. i try to visit a new city or island each time i'm there, but alas, the old haunts do call me back from time to time.

i have used the dating sites before with luck, and i have some chat-mates whom i chat with, and i have been given cell numbers from girls i have met online since my last trip to the phils. i might even meet them in january if it's convenient for me to do so, but essentially i don't like planning my trips around meeting a bunch of "hit or miss" women. the effort consumes too much time. there are an enormous amount of women every where you go just waiting to strike-up a conversation with you. whatever your method, you shouldn't have any problems meeting available women in the phils.

always on the quest

yella man

Amavida
09-10-09, 06:14
Unless you're taking a very long vacation in the Phils, just hit the malls, clubs and other Filipina gathering places. Smile a lot (I mean a lot fellas!), make as much eye contact as you can with every girl who will look your way, strike up conversations with every girl you come into contact with - Yella ManSums it up perfectly YM!
It becomes strangely 'other worldly' at times. The ease of picking out a real honey and a short time later being in bed with her has to be experienced to be believed.

AV

FreebieFan
09-14-09, 00:59
Sums it up perfectly YM!

It becomes strangely 'other worldly' at times. The ease of picking out a real honey and a short time later being in bed with her has to be experienced to be believed.

AVBut its not only in Phils.. Ive had this in Bangkok too. Confirmed a trip to BKK, and told a new never met before "chat friend". She was waiting in my hotel when my taxi arrived. Completed the registration card, got room keys and looked at my watch. it was 19.10.

By 19.20 we were both naked.

X Man
09-23-09, 15:46
As for FF post below, brings back memories of arriving in Bkk without a reservation. My old standby, Nana hotel was fully booked, and while walking down the road from Nana a gal asked me where I was going. She was cute as a button and recommended a place and helped me check in and fkd me one way, two ways, sideways, and then left. I was coming in from Hawaii so had a fair bit of jet lag.....she was just what the doctor ordered.

But, I have digressed! She wasn't a chat friend.

Has anyone met this one?

DIA: darah, 28, Philippines

X


But its not only in Phils.. Ive had this in Bangkok too. .

ChiefThinker
09-24-09, 15:26
Has anyone ever met this girl from DIA: Anne Roslalda

Any info would be appreciated.

Cwomd
09-24-09, 16:17
Is there any sort of code on dateinasia that might indicate that they are p4p?

A girl said something about "working with my friend bar", just wondering if that might be code.

White Whale
09-25-09, 03:56
is there any sort of code on dateinasia that might indicate that they are p4p?

a girl said something about "working with my friend bar", just wondering if that might be code.

in chiefthinker´s inquiry for anne roslalda there is some kind of code ;)

"my character is perhaps capricious and selfish.

i am 22 and looking to meet real men and couples for good times. i am into hardcore sex. i am looking for serious inquiries only. i want [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) play, [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) and forcable sex. make me fuck . i will do it all. use me as your personal cum ****. i do not have a mind to have the relation with a man who doesn't show face. filipino must not do me contact either."

of course she might be doing it for free although last sentence contradicts that.

White Whale
09-25-09, 05:37
Is there any sort of code on dateinasia that might indicate that they are p4p?

A girl said something about "working with my friend bar", just wondering if that might be code.

Second answer on more serious note... Majority of bar girls work because they are single mams. You might check "Have children" in the profiles. If there is "Yes (don't live with)" you probably have higher probability for P4P.

Osakagin
09-27-09, 10:22
Anyone had any luck meeting some Filippina FL's or no pay freebie gals through the introduction website 'Tagged' ?

I have made a few contacts and have some phone numbers but I am just wondering how legitimate these women are or are just fronts for webcam agencies ?

Sammon
09-27-09, 14:12
Second answer on more serious note... Majority of bar girls work because they are single mams. You might check "Have children" in the profiles. If there is "Yes (don't live with)" you probably have higher probability for P4P.

Quite a few girls do not disclose they have kids. Only after probing you will find out the truth. Sometimes you will not know till she is naked on your bed.
Lots of P4P girls go on online website posing as regular girls. It is next to impossible to know their true nature.
My advice is if you are into F,F,F no need to worry. Any serious relationships need to be carefull.

Chocha Monger
09-27-09, 22:57
There are at least two scammers on DIA using the Yahoo ID: julianaloveyouall and display name "Happiness Always Gladys love". These moron's MO is to pose as a Filipina and send a request to be added to your Yahoo messenger contacts. They then quickly close the account so you cannot see who it came from in order to prevent you from reporting them once you realize it's a scam. Once they start chatting with you they will reveal that they're in fact from Africa. After that it's a typical weak Nigerian scam attempt. The person making initial contact writes English very well the person who takes over mid chat spells like shit with terrible grammar.

The story is that Gladys the scammer has 40 bags of gold jewelry that her father left her when he died. She needs you to send her $400 to get a passport and visa to get it out of the country. Sound familiar? I told her I would help her once I got there and ran some tests on the gold to make sure it was good. ;) After that Gladys asked me to erase her from my contacts. Yeah right! Sure Gladys.

Do not open your cam or accept picture files from these scammers. They will try to send you picture files embedded with a Trojan. If your firewall and antivirus stops it they'll resort to their idiotic 40 bags of gold con. Do not add anyone to your Yahoo contacts until you chat with them through DIA for while and they pass preliminary screening.

White Whale
09-28-09, 02:27
Anyone had any luck meeting some Filippina FL's or no pay freebie gals through the introduction website 'Tagged' ?

I have made a few contacts and have some phone numbers but I am just wondering how legitimate these women are or are just fronts for webcam agencies ?

I do not explicit answer to give you about "luck". The AC bar girl I met couple of years ago has invited me afterwards to Tagged and Hi5. So she is doing side job as freelancer there.

Jambo
09-28-09, 03:49
Once they start chatting with you they will reveal that they're in fact from Africa. After that it's a typical weak Nigerian scam attempt.

I just noticed a nice feature with Cherry Blossoms is they show the IP address of the location where the poster is working from. IP stands for Internet Protocol and its the "address" of the server that handles the users connection. For Europe and North Africa is troublesome because one company (Ripenet i think) handles most of the traffic, so you may have the same IP for all those countries. But for the PI its one group of IP addresses. You may see pinays working in Europe and Hong Kong etc showing up with those IP addresses.

The other sites should implement that, its not hard to do.

Chocha Monger
09-28-09, 04:35
I just noticed a nice feature with Cherry Blossoms is they show the IP address of the location where the poster is working from. IP stands for Internet Protocol and its the "address" of the server that handles the users connection. For Europe and North Africa is troublesome because one company (Ripenet i think) handles most of the traffic, so you may have the same IP for all those countries. But for the PI its one group of IP addresses. You may see pinays working in Europe and Hong Kong etc showing up with those IP addresses.

The other sites should implement that, its not hard to do.
I just checked Cherry Blossoms site and they are having big problems with scammers too. One guy said he got taken for $50 and another for $5,000. I think the safest way to go is just say no to any request and refuse to communicate with anyone without a photo and active profile. Refusing any picture files and email attachments is probably the safest way to avoid being sent a Trojan or some nasty viruses. At least one member of the CB blog said he wouldn't be renewing because the site was plagued with scammers operating out of Ghana.

Other than the viruses I don't see it as a big deal because no one is getting a penny from me until I meat and stuff them. They just waste a bit of time that could have been better spent scamming some other gullible person.

GregLondon
09-28-09, 10:14
Yes I've met some nice girls through tagged. Of course there are some web cam ones, normally if its a very provocative scantily clad photo it will be a cam girl. But remember cam girls are girls too and some of them are avaiolable to meet in person too, especially the ones who are doing it as a sideline not full time



Anyone had any luck meeting some Filippina FL's or no pay freebie gals through the introduction website 'Tagged' ?

I have made a few contacts and have some phone numbers but I am just wondering how legitimate these women are or are just fronts for webcam agencies ?

Yella Man
09-28-09, 11:30
Other than the viruses I don't see it as a big deal because no one is getting a penny from me until I meat and stuff them. They just waste a bit of time that could have been better spent scamming some other gullible person.


Agreed! Why guys loose money to scammers is a mystery to me. Who sends money to people they have never met? And by the way, if you're one of those members who does that PM me so I can give you my address so you can send a little this way. Because my mother is sick and needs an operation, my brother was in a trike accident and I need to pay his doctor bill, my sister needs tuition money, and I need a new cell phone so I can call you every day baby! Mwuaaah! :)

Yella Man

KyCuriosity
09-28-09, 13:59
my brother was in a trike accident and I need to pay his doctor bill,

Yella ManI have never heard of a trike accident yet. I will send that money right away!

What country do I need to send it too. Are you stuck in Nigeria on mission work as well?

Member #4167
09-28-09, 14:43
Agreed! Why guys loose money to scammers is a mystery to me. Who sends money to people they have never met? And by the way, if you're one of those members who does that PM me so I can give you my address so you can send a little this way. Because my mother is sick and needs an operation, my brother was in a trike accident and I need to pay his doctor bill, my sister needs tuition money, and I need a new cell phone so I can call you every day baby! Mwuaaah! :)

Yella ManYM - it is idiots who send money to people they never met. It is also idiots who think I will do the same. But, the scam is not limited to the Pinays. There are many american girls who get plenty via the internet.

I decided to chat with a girl I met on a DIA-like site. Although it was "Against My Better Judgement" the session did not seem like a scam. She said she had no job. However, she said repeatedly that she was looking for a lender to help her set up a business. She never did come out and ask me for money.

I suppose this was a non-confrontational way to ask me for money? What do others think?

My rule is the same as Chocha Monger who said "no one is getting a penny from me until I meat and stuff them."

If I want a h00ker, they are easy enough to find. I dont need sites like DIA to find one. For me, these sites are only good for finding a GF. I am looking for a GF in the PI.

Next time, I will very clear up front (in advance of the conversation) that no one is getting a penny from me until I meat and stuff them.

Radical Guy
09-28-09, 20:39
I just checked Cherry Blossoms site and they are having big problems with scammers too. One guy said he got taken for $50 and another for $5,000.Wow, what kind of idiot would send $5,000 to someone they don't know really well? I wouldn't even send $5,000 to my brother. (Of course, that is *because* I know him.)

Whoever got scammed for that kind of money deserves it, IMHO. As for the scammer.... well, one of Murphy's Laws is, "It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money." LOL

Robbaf
09-28-09, 22:59
I decided to chat with a girl I met on a DIA-like site. Although it was "Against My Better Judgement" the session did not seem like a scam. She said she had no job. However, she said repeatedly that she was looking for a lender to help her set up a business. She never did come out and ask me for money.

I suppose this was a non-confrontational way to ask me for money? What do others think?

My rule is the same as Chocha Monger who said "no one is getting a penny from me until I meat and stuff them."

If I want a h00ker, they are easy enough to find. I dont need sites like DIA to find one. For me, these sites are only good for finding a GF. I am looking for a GF in the PI.

Next time, I will very clear up front (in advance of the conversation) that no one is getting a penny from me until I meat and stuff them.I agree and also disagree. I met this girl in DIA (photos here 927172) and it took me almost 5 months and 5000P to get her to Manila. She finished her contract and wanted to go to Manila to be with her sister and try to apply to go overseas. I sent her the money (after 100's of text and hours of webcaming and figured either way, maybe she will be all that or maybe I am out 5000P (no big deal). I met her and her sister in the mall at Jolly bee's and her sister gave her the blessing to go with me, because I am a nice guy:D and her sister told her that she had to be home by 10 pm. She told me in the room that her family thinks that she is a virgin. When we got to the room she was on me within 2 minutes and we fucked three times in three hours. I love the Philippines:D

I think if you send money, you should know the girl and not send money to the girl you met today:(

IMHO,
Robb

Yella Man
09-29-09, 09:45
Had this nice looking 19yr old on chat for the first time, but it was apparent to me pretty quickly that she was up to no good! Can you spot the scam?

her <ding>
her ..hello
her tnx for adding
her <ding>
me Hey there
me No prob
her hmmm tnx again
her k
her :)
me No luck on d serch
her y?
me Jus asking beautiful
me Did the typhoon hit Davao?
her ...hmmm not so
her just in manila
mm Gooood!
her yeah
me I'll b there to dive in Jan
her really?
her wow
her hmm
her y?
me Yup. Diving
her ...wow
her gud 4 u
me Yup
her wat are u doing now?
me Watching a movie
me U?
her hmmm research
her for my assignment
me Research on?
me Aaah ok
her articles of radiologic tecthology
me Ok. Great
her hmmmm yeah
me U becoming a nurse?
her radiologist
her hmmmm if there are some cud support my study
me Xray me! Hahahaa
her yeah
her xray u
me Yup
her hmmm 2000
me ?
her sister
me Sister?
her heheeh for my sister msg sorry
her im asking for my tuition for her
her hehehe
me K
me Ur a tad bit young but I'll messege u wen I get to Davao. Mayb we could meet.
her i hope so
her hmmm
me K
me I'll b at d Marco Polo
her ...i hope to see u soon
me K
me We'll chat more later ok. Take care always beautiful.
her same here

The subtle ways they try to part us from our money are many, so be careful online. Like another member said, "stuff the hole first", then you can be generous if you like.

Yella Man

Jesi James
09-29-09, 13:28
tnx yella man.

Like another member said, "stuff the hole first", then you can be generous if you like.

I never send money and am currently in cebu city. My plate is full from all angles. Plenty of ladies here are looking for just a little to help them or their family just a little. But as always, trust them only as they look in your eyes and taste your juices, cuz when they leave you, they are going to plan 'b'.

Jes

FreebieFan
09-30-09, 01:24
Had a cute conversation with a very tasty 20 year old on DIA. We then exchanged Friendster pages so we could see more of each other's pics then added each other as friends.

12 hours later my Friendster page has not one but TWO comments, from previous freebies, both asking why I had added a 20 year old girl and did I intend to meet her.
Now they could have posted these as messages, but by posting them as comments, everyone gets to see.

The comments just got deleted.

Im sure the next few hours will see a comment that says "why did you delete my comment.".

They are so sweet.

Cunning Stunt
10-05-09, 10:11
Recent messages between a Tagged Filipina contact and myself. The photo was her lead picture.

Me: Wow ..shame that you don't really look like that!! But you look pretty good anyway.

Her: LOOK LIKE WHAT?WHAT U MEAN IF U DONT MIND?

Me: No need to shout. The girl whose pic you posted as your lead photo, of course. I assume that hot lady is not you?

Her: ahhh ok....im not shouting anyway.

Duh ... if they had a brain, they would be dangerous!

X Man
10-05-09, 10:38
"you look pretty good anyway" ??? Shall we assume there were other pictures that were obviously different than the top pic? I'll assume so.

What are you whining about? X


Recent messages between a Tagged Filipina contact and myself. The photo was her lead picture.

Me: Wow ..shame that you don't really look like that!! But you look pretty good anyway.

Her: LOOK LIKE WHAT?WHAT U MEAN IF U DONT MIND?

Me: No need to shout. The girl whose pic you posted as your lead photo, of course. I assume that hot lady is not you?

Her: ahhh ok....im not shouting anyway.

Duh ... if they had a brain, they would be dangerous!

London Guy
10-05-09, 10:38
Had this nice looking 19yr old on chat for the first time, but it was apparent to me pretty quickly that she was up to no good! Can you spot the scam?

me Aaah ok
her articles of radiologic tecthology
me Ok. Great
her hmmmm yeah
me U becoming a nurse?
her radiologist
her hmmmm if there are some cud support my study
me Xray me! Hahahaa
her yeah
her xray u
me Yup
her hmmm 2000

Yella ManHa HA. Love your x-ray reply yella. Good humour

Cunning Stunt
10-05-09, 10:44
Shall we assume there were other pictures that were obviously different than the top pic?

Obviously ...

X Man
10-05-09, 10:53
In which case, we have to give credit to a woman who knows what a man is attracted to and knows how to advertize herself. She seem quite inteliligent, in a basic sort of way. But, in the end, she show's the real deal. Intelligent and honest.

Oh, sorry CS, what was your point? Does she have a brain? I would say that yes, she has a brain. Sorry if my opinion surprises you.

X


Obviously ...

Cunning Stunt
10-05-09, 11:31
Bloody hell, man....is she a relative of yours? Your IQ levels are probably the same.


Sorry if my opinion surprises you.


Your contrary opinions never surprises me. So no need to apologize.

Any further comments, kindly address as PM's. I'm sure the forum does not need to be subjected to more of your over analytical drivel.

Is it the wrong time of the month for you?

Yella Man
10-05-09, 11:36
If anyone is chatting with conservative_girl2001 you need to dump her(I suspect it's a male) quick. After a long first chat in which she/he claimed they had no cam, claimed they lived in a town with no internet cafe that had cams, claimed they had no mobile phone that I could call, claimed they had no friends with a mobile phone that I could call, amd kept calling me "honey"!

Of all my trips to the pinas, I have never had a girl call me honey. Baby, sure...but never honey. The pictures she/he posted on FH were nice, and she/he even sent me a bunch more via email. Bet it isn't her though. I reported her/him to FH staff and they have removed her profile. It's a jungle out there!

Yella Man

Sammon
10-05-09, 12:35
Recent messages between a Tagged Filipina contact and myself. The photo was her lead picture.

Me: Wow ..shame that you don't really look like that!! But you look pretty good anyway.

Her: LOOK LIKE WHAT?WHAT U MEAN IF U DONT MIND?

Me: No need to shout. The girl whose pic you posted as your lead photo, of course. I assume that hot lady is not you?

Her: ahhh ok....im not shouting anyway.

Duh ... if they had a brain, they would be dangerous!

Tips to spot real vs fake pictures.
1. Never go by Photoshopped pics. These look like portrait pictures.
They do not even remotely match their faces on cam.
2. Always look at the background. If it looks natural setting most often
it is authentic. In some cases the girl looks better on cam.
3. Avoid talking to girls with pictures showing her boobs or in scanty clothes.
These girls I found are desparate and will jump into bed with anybody.
4. Check the pics to see if it shows part of the body not just the face.
I met one girl in Cebu who had a cute face on pic as well as cam , only to
see she is overweight and it was like screwing a whale.
5. Look for how much make up the girl the girl has in pics as well as in cam.
Make up usually hide ugly scars.
6. Finally some of the girls put pictures when they are 15 years old. Naturally
look very pretty. Only to see aged look on cam. Besides they all lie
about how old they are.

X Man
10-05-09, 13:11
No, she's not a relative, but considering the picture, I wish she was.

Glad to hear that my contrary opinions don't SURPRISES you.

Later, I hope to post some pictures which might DELIGHTS you.

But if I you don't like the pictures, I apologize in advance ...I'm really sorry that they DISAPPOINTS you.

X  ***pm me if you want to correct our grammar :-)



Your contrary opinions never surprises me.

X Man
10-05-09, 13:15
Some good tips, but actually, they DON'T all lie.

I'll stick my neck out and say MOST don't lie.

Sammon may have just overgeneralized, most of his post is quite accurate.

X


Besides they all lie
about how old they are.

Henio
10-05-09, 18:31
...
3. Avoid talking to girls with pictures showing her boobs or in scanty clothes.
These girls I found are desparate and will jump into bed with anybody.
... yeah, I am really gonna try to avoid that ;-)

The Rooster1
10-05-09, 19:47
If anyone is chatting with conservative_girl2001 you need to dump her(I suspect it's a male) quick. After a long first chat in which she/he claimed they had no cam, claimed they lived in a town with no internet cafe that had cams, claimed they had no mobile phone that I could call, claimed they had no friends with a mobile phone that I could call, amd kept calling me "honey"!

Of all my trips to the pinas, I have never had a girl call me honey. Baby, sure...but never honey. The pictures she/he posted on FH were nice, and she/he even sent me a bunch more via email. Bet it isn't her though. I reported her/him to FH staff and they have removed her profile. It's a jungle out there!

Yella ManSounds fishy. Or not fishy, haha. Maybe we chatted with the same girl but different screen name because it sounds exactly like one who chatted with me. I tried to lure her out too, but she did try to sign me up to a website where I could see her on cam there. Except, she really liked me and didn't want me to actually watch her on cam if I didn't want to, just to sign on there so we could chat and help to get her quota. I said I don't pay online and I would be in Manila in 5 days (which was true) and would like to help her out then and take her out for a coffee. Then she got mad, hahaha. Beautiful pic though.

Ya, I was so close to giving my credit card number out online I had to break my card, not.

BTW, my regular girl calls me hon, is that the same? Damm, when I'm home in 4 days I will have to do another detailed examination of all areas to make sure I'm not getting scammed, haha

Peace out!

Jambo
10-05-09, 22:55
Cherry Blossoms Member C01224266

I'm Single and I have 3 Children...
I am a good clean woman.....IF YOUR INTENTIONS ARE NOT PURE, STAY AWAY FROM ME....Nobody is perfect.
Well she has some nads, posting a profile. Maybe there is a white knight out there. Hope she had a couple of daughters, maybe a chance for future income that way. Not a bad looker..

Sammon
10-05-09, 23:38
yeah, I am really gonna try to avoid that ;-)

You are not in a bar trying to barfine a girl. The fact that you are searching in these sites is to find a presumably normal girl with hopefully some extras. You definitely want to avoid high mileage girls.

Jambo
10-06-09, 00:36
You definitely want to avoid high mileage girls. Yes exactly. I won't hold a girls past affairs against her exactly. But if the men a girl may encounter in her life is a stream--I prefer to fish upriver.

Chocha Monger
10-06-09, 01:05
DIA is probably the last place you want to look for a normal girl. These girls are worst than bargirls. Most bargirls are happy to sell you their pussy and call it a day but internet girls are trying to hit the jackpot. Jackpot being a visa to a more prosperous country and lifetime support via children and marriage. They get online with pretentious bullshit about being “conservative”. Put them on cam and you’ll notice that they’re doing multiple chats trying to scam as many suckers as possible. At least bargirls have the courtesy to wait until you get your nut before requesting money or gifts. Plus you can talk shit with a bargirl without all the faux modesty. Online dating sites are simply virtual boot camps where these girls refine their lying, scamming and cheating skills. If you want normal find a Filipina who has never been on a dating or social networking site. Think about this. When you set up your profile with a location in your home country you’ll still be contacted by hordes of Filipinas. This indicates that they’re searching for you based on your country of citizenship. Set up a profile with a location and nationality of a poor country with everything else being equal and see how many hits you get.

Anyone looking for an Asian girl to play house with would be better off looking in Vietnam or China. Filipinas are fun to dump your load in but if you’re not going to live in the Philippines and keep them there you’re setting yourself up for a whole lot of hurt. I found one on DIA who is currently in Minnesota looking for a sucker. She came on fiancé visa to marry a guy but he called it off. Well, she just overstayed her visa and resorted to the old tricks of finding another sucker online. Bringing one of these girls to the US is like catching a bad case of herpes. They never go away. If they end up on public assistance the government will enforce the affidavit of support that you signed when you sponsored them. It’s true that another guy usually picks them up and supports them before it gets to that point but you may not be that lucky. You’ll be even less lucky if she gets a slick immigration lawyer and files for residency under the abuse clause.

If you’re a transient sex tourist stick to the bargirls. You’ll save yourself time, money and a whole lot of aggravation.

The Rooster1
10-06-09, 02:09
DIA is probably the last place you want to look for a normal girl. These girls are worst than bargirls. Most bargirls are happy to sell you their pussy and call it a day but internet girls are trying to hit the jackpot. Jackpot being a visa to a more prosperous country and lifetime support via children and marriage. They get online with pretentious bullshit about being “conservative”. Put them on cam and you’ll notice that they’re doing multiple chats trying to scam as many suckers as possible. At least bargirls have the courtesy to wait until you get your nut before requesting money or gifts. Plus you can talk shit with a bargirl without all the faux modesty. Online dating sites are simply virtual boot camps where these girls refine their lying, scamming and cheating skills. If you want normal find a Filipina who has never been on a dating or social networking site. Think about this. When you set up your profile with a location in your home country you’ll still be contacted by hordes of Filipinas. This indicates that they’re searching for you based on your country of citizenship. Set up a profile with a location and nationality of a poor country with everything else being equal and see how many hits you get.

Anyone looking for an Asian girl to play house with would be better off looking in Vietnam or China. Filipinas are fun to dump your load in but if you’re not going to live in the Philippines and keep them there you’re setting yourself up for a whole lot of hurt. I found one on DIA who is currently in Minnesota looking for a sucker. She came on fiancé visa to marry a guy but he called it off. Well, she just overstayed her visa and resorted to the old tricks of finding another sucker online. Bringing one of these girls to the US is like catching a bad case of herpes. They never go away. If they end up on public assistance the government will enforce the affidavit of support that you signed when you sponsored them. It’s true that another guy usually picks them up and supports them before it gets to that point but you may not be that lucky. You’ll be even less lucky if she gets a slick immigration lawyer and files for residency under the abuse clause.

If you’re a transient sex tourist stick to the bargirls. You’ll save yourself time, money and a whole lot of aggravation.I think newbies/mongers should give you a fee for filling them in on the quick and dirty and how to get down to business. Very well said. And I'm glad I don't live in Minnesota anymore!

Peace out!

Amjeck
10-06-09, 19:32
Anyone looking for an Asian girl to play house with would be better off looking in Vietnam
Any recommended websites for vietnam?

Chocha Monger
10-06-09, 23:23
Any recommended websites for vietnam?
I would not recommend websites where girls are specifically targeting foreigners. These girls have a motive to escape their home country. You'll just get used. Use a non-dating site like Facebook and try to friend some girls from your country of interest. Many wouldn't respond but a few will, but all you need is a few because once you become part of their network you can friend their friends. Call it viral mongering if you like. You will meet upper class girls that you wouldn't have a chance making contact with otherwise. You'll have to get creative using the sites' search function. In my case I stumbled upon the key accidentally while trying to find a long lost Vietnamese girlfriend who was very good to me.

Buko Max
10-07-09, 01:20
DIA is probably the last place you want to look for a normal girl. These girls are worst than bargirls.
Have met many nice, respectable Filipinas on DIA and as always YMMV.
You sound very jaded, perhaps a victim of a goldigger yourself?

She came on fiancé visa to marry a guy but he called it off. Well, she just overstayed her visa and resorted to the old tricks of finding another sucker online.
Doesn't the woman have to get married or go home after three months?
If she has overstayed her visa, she is an offender. Isn't this grounds for deportation?

Chocha Monger
10-07-09, 04:13
Have met many nice, respectable Filipinas on DIA and as always YMMV.
You sound very jaded, purhaps a victim of a goldigger yourself?

Doesn't the woman have to get married or go home after three months?
If she has overstayed her visa, she is an offender. Isn't this grounds for deportation?
Mattrick:

Maybe, I'm tarring them all with the same brush but there are an awful lot of the bad kind on DIA and FH. Perhaps, you're just lucky or an optimist. Sure you can find the odd diamond in the rough. I wouldn't deny that. And no I haven't been a victim because my policy is to stuff the turkey before ladling on the gravy. I prefer to be skeptical and pleasantly surprised rather than trusting and unpleasantly surprised. Let's chalk this one down to glass half filled vs. glass half empty.

Yes to both your last two questions. At least that's the theoretical part of how the law is supposed to work but in reality it rarely works out like that. If she can get another sucker to marry her she can get off if the new sponsor pays a fine on her behalf. Who does and doesn't get deported from the US is based on an algorithm even more secret than the one Google uses to determine search engine rankings.

X Man
10-07-09, 15:11
This one from DIA is really weird.

c/o the church? And mailing a laptop would be insanity. Surely she must realize it would be stolen before delivery.

"i am after of your money"????

X I can't help thinking this is just a joke by a bunch of kids, but who knows...

elow...
how r u??
can i ask u a favor??
can i ask u for a laptop.
irily badly needed it since im taking up nursing..
hoping you would not mind that i am after of your money.
its just i nid it this time for our thesis..
i wil just pay you after i graduate nd get a job..
by this time, my parents dont have sufficient balance to provide me a laptop
i am expecting for your positive reponse.
i knoe that computer ther in your country is much less compared here..
by the way here is my address if you had planned to send it via LBC.

(name / address deleted)
c/o IGLESIA NI CRISTO COMPOUND

Irony Monger
10-07-09, 15:18
can i ask u for a laptop.LOL! Last I heard, cheap cell phones were nice gifts to reward great service. Now we need to provide laptops! ? What's next."please send deed to house in martha's vinyard. Please make near single Kennedys."

X Man
10-07-09, 15:27
I know of a few fiance visas that had happy endings.

You seem to be exagerrating a worst case scenario. X


If she can get another sucker to marry her she can get off if the new sponsor pays a fine on her behalf. .

Sammon
10-07-09, 16:50
Have met many nice, respectable Filipinas on DIA and as always YMMV.
You sound very jaded, perhaps a victim of a goldigger yourself?

Doesn't the woman have to get married or go home after three months?
If she has overstayed her visa, she is an offender. Isn't this grounds for deportation?

Yes, according to the Fiance visa rules marriage has to take place within 90 days of arrival. If it does not happen it is the Citizens's responsibility to make sure the girl/boy goes back to their country. Rules also state that both need to stay together unless religious customs do not approve. In this case the petitioner has to bear the expenses of housing.
However nobody can be held hostage against their will. If the person leaves with no forwarding address they become illegal immigrants and subject to deportation if caught. The petitioner only has to report this to the police department as missing person and to the immigration authorities.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-07-09, 19:35
Anyone had any luck meeting some Filippina FL's or no pay freebie gals through the introduction website 'Tagged' ?

I have made a few contacts and have some phone numbers but I am just wondering how legitimate these women are or are just fronts for webcam agencies ?

The last trip I took the Cebu, ALL of my dates were arranged beforehand on Tagged. I didn't even look at any of the other sites mentioned on here.

Chocha Monger
10-07-09, 23:10
I know of a few fiance visas that had happy endings.

You seem to be exagerrating a worst case scenario. X
Tarring 'em all with the same brush am I? Not really, for every fairy tale happy ever after ending there are numerous others that end like Greek tragedies. The folks at the embassy know this. They know how many of these girls skip out on their fiance visas and never return home. Why do you think they treat them like shit when they show up at the US Embassy for the interview? They charge hefty application fees because they know that many of these girls will do a runner from the old goat who sponsored them. The number of people who abscond on US visas from a given country on an annual basis has a direct effect on the difficulty other citizens from that country will encounter when trying to get a visa.

Cuba Tourist
10-08-09, 04:14
this is the entire substance of one profile on DIA. I guess she has gotten frustrated with some of the types of guys approaching her. The truth is that there are a variety of different types of girls on that website. As one person here remarked a few days ago, some are worse than bargirls. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Some have shown up ready to jump into bed, which is not necessarily a bad thing. The ones-- actually some of the ones -- that consider themselves good girls will refuse to have sex on the first date. after such an occurrence, one girl kept texting me. I told her was disappointed that nothing happened and she told me that it was only our first date and on the second date, everything would happen. I had gotten spoiled so I didn't go out with her a second time. Anyway, this is what that one girl wrote:



If You're As Shallow As A Kiddy Pool, Bother The Next Person
SO! How weird are some people on this website? Most of you are seriously superficial, and some of you are just plain creepy. If you're looking for your picture perfect 34-24-34 Coca Cola Bottle girl, good luck with that and if you're into doing the freaky, there are plenty of other women on this website who would be glad to help you make your wildest dreams a reality.

1. I'm not a ladyboy. If you're into that kind of thing, good for you!
2. I don't need money. As of yet, all my family are in good health and are financially stable.
3. I don't need a husband to take me away to greener pastures; I'm happy where I am.
4. I'm not a webcam girl. So don't ask me to take my clothes off for you.

If you want to know more about me, then feel free to send me a message.

X Man
10-09-09, 06:49
It's really offputting to read a profile like this, but as CT implies, there seems to be a few people out there who spend time harassing or insulting the ladies online.

Oh, the "second date"? I've made a move a few times early on during a first date, and been rebuffed. I just kept smiling and suggested we do something else...take a walk, stop for a drink.....etc...and somehow got her into bed eventually.

What did I do that worked? Hmmm, not really sure. Maybe, not putting pressure on her. Also, keeping up the romance so that she felt comfortable that there WOULD be a second date. Or maybe it was the alcohol!

Of course there was one lady who went home earlier than I hoped on our first date. But we made some plans the next day. Soon after HER DRIVER dropped her off at my hotel the next day, we were going at it. Great fun.

X

this is the entire substance of one profile on DIA. I guess she has gotten frustrated with some of the types of guys approaching her. The truth is that there are a variety of different types of girls on that website. As one person here remarked a few days ago, some are worse than bargirls. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Some have shown up ready to jump into bed, which is not necessarily a bad thing. The ones-- actually some of the ones -- that consider themselves good girls will refuse to have sex on the first date. after such an occurrence, one girl kept texting me. I told her was disappointed that nothing happened and she told me that it was only our first date and on the second date, everything would happen. I had gotten spoiled so I didn't go out with her a second time. Anyway, this is what that one girl wrote:



If You're As Shallow As A Kiddy Pool, Bother The Next Person
SO! How weird are some people on this website? Most of you are seriously superficial, and some of you are just plain creepy. If you're looking for your picture perfect 34-24-34 Coca Cola Bottle girl, good luck with that and if you're into doing the freaky, there are plenty of other women on this website who would be glad to help you make your wildest dreams a reality.

1. I'm not a ladyboy. If you're into that kind of thing, good for you!
2. I don't need money. As of yet, all my family are in good health and are financially stable.
3. I don't need a husband to take me away to greener pastures; I'm happy where I am.
4. I'm not a webcam girl. So don't ask me to take my clothes off for you.

If you want to know more about me, then feel free to send me a message.

Chocha Monger
10-09-09, 15:34
this is the entire substance of one profile on DIA. I guess she has gotten frustrated with some of the types of guys approaching her. The truth is that there are a variety of different types of girls on that website. As one person here remarked a few days ago, some are worse than bargirls. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Some have shown up ready to jump into bed, which is not necessarily a bad thing. The ones-- actually some of the ones -- that consider themselves good girls will refuse to have sex on the first date. after such an occurrence, one girl kept texting me. I told her was disappointed that nothing happened and she told me that it was only our first date and on the second date, everything would happen. I had gotten spoiled so I didn't go out with her a second time. Anyway, this is what that one girl wrote:



If You're As Shallow As A Kiddy Pool, Bother The Next Person
SO! How weird are some people on this website? Most of you are seriously superficial, and some of you are just plain creepy. If you're looking for your picture perfect 34-24-34 Coca Cola Bottle girl, good luck with that and if you're into doing the freaky, there are plenty of other women on this website who would be glad to help you make your wildest dreams a reality.

1. I'm not a ladyboy. If you're into that kind of thing, good for you!
2. I don't need money. As of yet, all my family are in good health and are financially stable.
3. I don't need a husband to take me away to greener pastures; I'm happy where I am.
4. I'm not a webcam girl. So don't ask me to take my clothes off for you.

If you want to know more about me, then feel free to send me a message.
It's only natural for some of these girls to get bitter after being fucked by one monger after another with no K-1 visa or Western Union to show for it. Just pass on the bitter angry profiles and find a fresh one who perhaps hasn't had so many miles of foreign cock ran through her. I love when women post these hateful declarations online because it saves me the trouble of finding out that they're psycho abused chicks after meeting them.

One needs to interpret the language used in these profiles. For example:

1. "I'm not a ladyboy." This means that she looks like a ladyboy and cautious mongers have asked her to make a truthful declaration regarding her gender. Another possibility is that she is indeed a ladyboy trying to run a scam and she/he has to protest loudly to convince online sugar daddies that they're indeed sending money to a woman.

2. "I don't need money." She needs and/or wants money desperately. The biggest gold diggers always claim that money isn't important to them without the man even asking about it.

3. "I don't need a husband to take me away to greener pastures; I'm happy where I am." She desperately wants a husband to take her away to greener pastures. She is very unhappy living in her shit hole. Most guys online aren't offering marriage. They're after a quick fuck so why is she refusing something that is rarely ever offered? She's full of shit. Again this is another attempt to get mongers to lower their guard and believe that she is different from all the others. Yeah right girl!

4. "I'm not a webcam girl. So don't ask me to take my clothes off for you." She has done cam shows for mongers in the past and they didn't send Western Union as promised. Time to change strategy and play virtuous girl.

FreebieFan
10-12-09, 06:47
Oh, the "second date"? I've made a move a few times early on during a first date, and been rebuffed. I just kept smiling and suggested we do something else...take a walk, stop for a drink.....etc...and somehow got her into bed eventually.

XI had a great first date once with a gal I met through Adpost. Yes you could score there too in the old days. We met, had drinks and dinner in Rockwell and I suggested we go somewhere else for a drink. She said " no can we go somewhere else not for a drink" I replied " somewhere private " " and she said " Yes please ". In Sogo barely 20 minutes later!

FreebieFan
10-12-09, 06:52
some of the ones -- that consider themselves good girls will refuse to have sex on the first date. after such an occurrence, one girl kept texting me. I told her was disappointed that nothing happened and she told me that it was only our first date and on the second date, everything would happen.Was in Jakarta last week ( report posted ) and sent sms to lady at 8pm.. hoping we could meet. Said she wasnt that kind of a lady.

We met later in week for lunch, then had a date for drinks and ended in bed. She was the hottest momma I have been with for past ten years. slapping my cock on her face like a pornstar, thanks goodness I went for the second date !!!

Amavida
10-12-09, 14:01
It's only natural for some of these girls to get bitter after being fucked by one monger after another with no K-1 visa or Western Union to show for itEXACTLY!
If you want to know how much shit the women have to endure on those web sites, open a womans profilem on one of them & stand back to marvel at the disgusting assortment of weirdos, creeps & slime balls will soon descend. It made me have a more patient attitude with the girls after I did that.

AV

FreebieFan
10-13-09, 00:49
EXACTLY!
If you want to know how much shit the women have to endure on those web sites, open a womans profilem on one of them & stand back to marvel at the disgusting assortment of weirdos, creeps & slime balls will soon descend. It made me have a more patient attitude with the girls after I did that.

AVThe other way of looking at this is an opportunity. I'm amazed when girls always say " you are so nice, you treat me well "

I treat them bad in that I screw them then dump them, but laways do it with a sense of style and humour. Keeps them coming back for more.

Equally, in all chat DIA / Tagged / FRiendster etc I never ask naked pics and same on Ym etc. Then they know I'm decent. Amazing that stupid dumb guys get a gal on cam and the first thing he can say is " show me your tits. "

Thanks goodness there are such tossers around. Makes my job so much easier.

Yella Man
10-13-09, 11:28
The other way of looking at this is an opportunity. I'm amazed when girls always say " you are so nice, you treat me well "

I treat them bad in that I screw them then dump them, but laways do it with a sense of style and humour. Keeps them coming back for more.

Equally, in all chat DIA / Tagged / FRiendster etc I never ask naked pics and same on Ym etc. Then they know I'm decent. Amazing that stupid dumb guys get a gal on cam and the first thing he can say is " show me your tits. "

Thanks goodness there are such tossers around. Makes my job so much easier.

I agree! Most of the girls I chat with tell me how "Nice" I am. I never have a problem trying to meet these girls if I actually want to meet them. The words tits, ass, and pussy never come up in any of my chats. Those are things best left for the hotel room. :)

Another CB girl to avoid is C01431021, YM id sexyphilippines2009. Her whole chat was about doom and gloom. She even started out by saying she didn't know where she would be staying the next day because her landlord was kicking her out because she couldn't pay rent. The whole chat went downhill from that point. She even asked me to buy her a phone because she didn't have one! So yes, it's a good idea to be a gentleman during your chat sessions. It's an entirely different thing if you fall for the bullshit many of the girls despense through chat. I simply told her "it's too bad you dont have a phone, or I would call you when I get to CDO". She gave me her number right away! She forgot to keep track of her own lies!

Yella Man

X Man
10-13-09, 11:49
Excellent!

A great post, but most of all I would agree that readers DO NOT give hell to the obvious scammers. They are in training and the more you fk with them, the better they get.

YM has a great strategy.

X



I agree! Most of the girls I chat with tell me how "Nice" I am. I never have a problem trying to meet these girls if I actually want to meet them. The words tits, ass, and pussy never come up in any of my chats. Those are things best left for the hotel room. :)

Another CB girl to avoid is C01431021, YM id sexyphilippines2009. Her whole chat was about doom and gloom. She even started out by saying she didn't know where she would be staying the next day because her landlord was kicking her out because she couldn't pay rent. The whole chat went downhill from that point. She even asked me to buy her a phone because she didn't have one! So yes, it's a good idea to be a gentleman during your chat sessions. It's an entirely different thing if you fall for the bullshit many of the girls despense through chat. I simply told her "it's too bad you dont have a phone, or I would call you when I get to CDO". She gave me her number right away! She forgot to keep track of her own lies!

Yella Man

Jambo
10-13-09, 15:33
Clearly a not-so-small industry has grown up around the online scamming. I really don't understand why the govt abolished the private video chat rooms. Money is money.

Reading other 'straight' PI forums, I realize that its not just mongers and potential suitors sending money to girls. There are men 'sponsoring' girls college expenses. I've had those come-ons also. Nursing school costs money. "I am looking for a sponsor". Seems like every exam or certification has a fee. These 'sponsors', I can't believe they have any direct knowledge if the money is actually being spent on school, or on Tanduay for dad. A guy on another board admitted after sponsoring a girls school, she ended up in a bar because it paid more than a call center job.

Want to be charitable, help people out? Wonderful idea. Why not give to an appropriate charity, in CASH, and let them decide where is it needed? Flood victims for example. Poor people who live where there is no electricity and Internet cafes.

Say you're a charity passing out rice, and you unload the planeload of rice at the airport, and park outside giving it out. The refugees will all move to the airport and stop working, waiting for the next load of rice to arrive. Other refugees will hear about it, and they will migrate to the place where the rice arrives. Just as well, girls migrate to the cafes at all hours of the night because they hear about stupid guys who send money.

But we gotta put a face on our charity, don't we? Just like those old Sally Struthers commercials, "We'll send you a picture of the little girl you are sponsoring". Well what about the other kids in the school. They're in rags, and here is this one girl (is it ever a boy?) with new clothes and books.

Well please excuse me for venting. I know it's been gone over before. And its not like I didn't to it also. But for me, from now on its pay as you go.

Chocha Monger
10-14-09, 04:54
EXACTLY!
If you want to know how much shit the women have to endure on those web sites, open a womans profilem on one of them & stand back to marvel at the disgusting assortment of weirdos, creeps & slime balls will soon descend. It made me have a more patient attitude with the girls after I did that.

AV
It is so sad that these girls get on online thinking that they will find some nice gentleman from a rich country to rescue them from all the poverty and squalor. Instead all they get for their trouble and pesos spent on internet cafe fees is a hard Viagra inflamed prick in their guts and a bunch of empty promises.

Amavida
10-14-09, 05:29
It is so sad that these girls get on online thinking that they will find some nice gentleman from a rich country to rescue them from all the poverty and squalor. Instead all they get for their trouble and pesos spent on internet cafe fees is a hard Viagra inflamed prick in their guts and a bunch of empty promises.Yep. There is a fine line between fun & inflicting misery. Maintain your Karma is my motto...

AV

Cuba Tourist
10-16-09, 07:25
This is what Merry Anne has to say--

jes dont make DIA as a key for cam to cam sex okies? :)

that's enough. i will spam every foolish man who invited me on a cam sex.!
ohh see me at www.friendster.com to know more about me.. <billieca_meneses@yahoo.com>


>DONT INVITE ME ON A CAM SEX CAUSE I MIGHT CLICK "REPORT AS SPAM" THERE

> I DONT WANT TO BE AN ESCORT TO ANYBODY FOR 2-3 WEEKS.!

> I'M NOT SHORT TERM KIND OF PERSON.,!!

>AND LASTLY.! DONT COMPARE ME ON ANY OTHER FILIPINA.! EVERY PERSON ARE NOT THE SAME..!!!

>THIS JES A FEW RULES AND REGULATIONS ACCORDING TO MY AUTONOMY.!<

Cuba Tourist
10-16-09, 19:42
bhadzjen from davao declares....


virginity is sacred....

FELLOWS,
Hi,I am Jennilyn Torregosa,18 years young,i came from davao city.A simple girl living in a simple way,i am young by age but mature in my head.i did'nt do good things juz for the sake of good impression,im not pretensious and im not fake.i cant say that im not a liar coz every one of us commits lie,i cant say that i am good coz not all the time we are good,i cant say that i am honest coz there's always hidden behind our honesty.i am picky coz im aware of stupid and bulshit guys.i juz finished high school but i am smart and clever.i am a decent woman,im not a ***** nor a prosti,i dont have lots of money coz i did'nt sell my body.
I dont have house and lot to own,i dont hve car to ride,i do hve celphone but not that much expensive,i dont have profession to be proud of but im dreaming and striving for it.i owned only a good heart to offer u,my smile and my lips to touch,my arms that u can lean on and my life that cant live without u in my side.
WHEN I CHOOSED YOU,ITS ONLY YOU.

i hate people who under estimate me,wer juz human,no more,no less.,i dont want to be petied coz im not a beggar.,i juz want to be accepted as the whole me without hesitations.

Jambo
10-17-09, 00:21
virginity is sacred....
Hmm maybe a little ceremony? Darken the room, get some candles. Wear a red robe. Put her naked on the dresser. "omni-domni"

I had girl lined up to give her cherry to me, then her mom got ahold of her phone and started texting me. I didn't know it was momma, so I was explaining how it might go. Well you can imagine my little plan was quashed!

I even had a bi-girl lined up to join and help out. Shoot.

Cuba Tourist
10-17-09, 05:24
virginity is sacred....

All good things must come to an end

Cuba Tourist
10-17-09, 05:33
Im Just Really Easy To Get But Hard To Forget....

Im Just Being Simple,but Attractive..i Am Studying As Of Now.my Interest Is Chatting,having Conversation Through Net...my Hobbies Are Dancing,i Am A Member Of Marjorette In Our School...i Love To Travel And Work In Abroad Just For My Future Coz I Want To Help My Family To Surpass In Poverty...i Have No Bf Coz My Priority Is My Studies...to All Naughty And Stupid Foriegner..dont Waste Ur Time! Im Not A Prostitute!!!! And To Those Liar And Pretender Please Dont Waste Ur Time Of Making Me Fool!dont Have Time For That......thanks But Im Just Being Frank!

Chocha Monger
10-17-09, 06:18
Im Just Really Easy To Get But Hard To Forget....

Im Just Being Simple,but Attractive..i Am Studying As Of Now.my Interest Is Chatting,having Conversation Through Net...my Hobbies Are Dancing,i Am A Member Of Marjorette In Our School...i Love To Travel And Work In Abroad Just For My Future Coz I Want To Help My Family To Surpass In Poverty...i Have No Bf Coz My Priority Is My Studies...to All Naughty And Stupid Foriegner..dont Waste Ur Time! Im Not A Prostitute!!!! And To Those Liar And Pretender Please Dont Waste Ur Time Of Making Me Fool!dont Have Time For That......thanks But Im Just Being Frank!
This one seems to have been fucked several times by you naughty foreign mongers. She swears she wouldn't fall for all of your sweet talk, lies, empty promises and your foreign currency but she always seems to end up in a motel room with a pair of naughty foreign nut sacks in her mouth. She's not a prostitute, okay. She just wants to go to Dubai and suck on some sweaty nuts for her future. Why is she online? Because she knows foreigners are stupid and they'll send her money via Western Union to surpass her family's poverty but she'll actually use it to buy a cell phone. She doesn't like liars and pretenders because she's paying good pesos at the internet cafe to work those six open chat windows and if you're not going to give her a return on her investment, well just don't waste her time. Her interest is chatting and scamming stupid foreigners on the internet. She has no boyfriend because her priorities are her studies yet her spelling and grammar are atrocious, not to mention she's on a dating site?

The angry ones who have seen miles of cock always seem to end up on the internet. They get stuck in a cycle of being used, re-used and abused. Every time they get fucked and tossed they get a little crazier. This is true even in the US. A guy who used the net to find easy fucks once showed me some women he fucked five years ago from a dating site. He said nothing changed their ages seemed to remain the same or actually get a bit younger.

Starchild2012
10-17-09, 07:21
This one seems to have been fucked several times by you naughty foreign mongers. She swears she wouldn't fall for all of your sweet talk, lies, empty promises and your foreign currency but she always seems to end up in a motel room with a pair of naughty foreign nut sacks in her mouth. She's not a prostitute, okay. She just wants to go to Dubai and suck on some sweaty nuts for her future. Why is she online? Because she knows foreigners are stupid and they'll send her money via Western Union to surpass her family's poverty but she'll actually use it to buy a cell phone. She doesn't like liars and pretenders because she's paying good pesos at the internet cafe to work those six open chat windows and if you're not going to give her a return on her investment, well just don't waste her time. Her interest is chatting and scamming stupid foreigners on the internet. She has no boyfriend because her priorities are her studies yet her spelling and grammar are atrocious, not to mention she's on a dating site?

The angry ones who have seen miles of cock always seem to end up on the internet. They get stuck in a cycle of being used, re-used and abused. Every time they get fucked and tossed they get a little crazier. This is true even in the US. A guy who used the net to find easy fucks once showed me some women he fucked five years ago from a dating site. He said nothing changed their ages seemed to remain the same or actually get a bit younger.

haha...Good one....perfectly explained.....yet somehow i like these types...they are more giving and easy it seems :)

Cunning Stunt
10-17-09, 10:39
This one seems to have been fucked several times by you naughty foreign mongers...

Here's the DIA girl for you Chocha. She looks remarkably like a plastic blow-up doll so maybe she will let you put her away in the wardrobe after use.

Now that would solve a lot of problems;).

Royal Blue
10-17-09, 13:29
Heading to the Phils (Cebu) for the firSt time soon. I'm setting up my DIA account but as always there's the question of how direct to be. I thought I'd say something like 'looking for sweet, sexy girl for fun and company' etc. etc.

Does anyone know this:

cebuanas.com

It looked promising, but then I noticed that it says 'Where Philippians meet Foreign Men'. A magnet for scammers?

Jambo
10-17-09, 15:48
CM thats an excellent translation. They should have a CM plug-in on the site.

Those girls are often accompanied by the tell-tale "in the hotel room when the white guy who was here last month" pics.

All that said. Clearly from what the girls say, there are a lot of guys who are online to just jerk off. Trying to talk dirty to them. Have no intention to actually go over to see them. I tell girls, if a guy isn't talking about going there within say, 3 months, don't waste your time.

Cuba Tourist
10-18-09, 06:15
Neither bhadzjen nor Joylove has answered me!!!! I am so sad......

One girl wrote this as her header:

"Don't judge me outside but touch me inside"

is she saying what I think she is saying?

Chocha Monger
10-18-09, 07:10
Neither bhadzjen nor Joylove has answered me!!!! I am so sad......

One girl wrote this as her header:

"Don't judge me outside but touch me inside"

is she saying what I think she is saying?
She wants you to go deep and touch her where it matters. She might not look like a supermodel but she's got a tight fur lined taco in need of a hot meat filling. Don't keep her waiting!

X Man
10-21-09, 15:26
Chat friends, pen pals?

Jambo
10-21-09, 16:09
For me, a good sign: "I can't get online very often"
Bad sign: Online at 2am their time. Online every day. View my Webcam showing for hours

GregLondon
10-21-09, 16:25
i think 2-3 weeks would be more realistic


CM thats an excellent translation. They should have a CM plug-in on the site.

Those girls are often accompanied by the tell-tale "in the hotel room when the white guy who was here last month" pics.

All that said. Clearly from what the girls say, there are a lot of guys who are online to just jerk off. Trying to talk dirty to them. Have no intention to actually go over to see them. I tell girls, if a guy isn't talking about going there within say, 3 months, don't waste your time.

Neon Noodle
10-21-09, 19:15
For me, a good sign: "I can't get online very often"
Bad sign: Online at 2am their time. Online every day. View my Webcam showing for hoursCan't really go by that. Most Pinays I know and have talked to have multiple Yahoo, MSN, Etc accounts. Plus they can be invisible too or hide the webcam status if they are smart. Use to be a program called Buddy Spy that would scan your friends on Yahoo and could tell you if they are invisible or webcam was on. But its not supported anymore. Might be other such programs though.

Mr Durex
10-23-09, 04:35
Can't really go by that. Most Pinays I know and have talked to have multiple Yahoo, MSN, Etc accounts. Plus they can be invisible too or hide the webcam status if they are smart. Use to be a program called Buddy Spy that would scan your friends on Yahoo and could tell you if they are invisible or webcam was on. But its not supported anymore. Might be other such programs though.To check if your buddy is invisible you can use this page, no need to install :-)
http://www.ydetector.com

The Departed
10-23-09, 21:37
Read the profile carefully of the little f machine you hope to fuck. I have gone further and I ask you to do the same.
Check out the amount of men on line. X man, bad for you as not so many white asses in Japan are online so your cover might be blown by someone prepared to waste time on you.
If you do this, you will see there are tons of men chasing these machines.

Next, try hitting up the Asian f machines living outside of Asia, France, UK, US etc. You will see they are a lot choosier than little Joy [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) flaps stuck in Manila.

For those of you sneering that Little Ms Pissflaps shows her breasts in the photos, notice that many of the older ones too. That is all they have to offer. That is all they can bring to the party.

Me, I always bring a kind word and plenty of lube but that is all they have. If you do your homework and are patient, you will get to fist fuck them and empty your bowels on them. Here, all can win the lottery.

I will do my KL report soon and then I am off to bag some Rohingya. My type of meat.

Warbucks
10-24-09, 09:48
Check out the amount of men on line. X man, bad for you as not so many white asses in Japan are online so your cover might be blown by someone prepared to waste time on you...

X has nothing to worry about. Lot of suit and tie white types living in Japan. I used to see them all the time going to work while transienting Japan's intricate subway system on my way home to my Prefecture from partying in Roppongi/Yokohama most nights :)


If you do this, you will see there are tons of men chasing these machines.

Next, try hitting up the Asian f machines living outside of Asia, France, UK, US etc. You will see they are a lot choosier than little Joy [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) flaps stuck in Manila..

The PI based Filipiana is not that choosy at all. As I have said the dating pool is shit for them.

I used to think the light skin, career having ones were out of reach (read my earlier posts) to "some of us" but from the bar ass shaker, to the corporate level women makes no difference when the possibility to escape PI/Middle East for western pastures arises.

Just look how the average guy gets flooded with hits once they put up a profile on these PI orientated sites.


Here, all can win the lottery..

Indeed.


I will do my KL report soon and then I am off to bag some Rohingya. My type of meat.

I know some of us are looking forward to it.

The Departed
10-24-09, 14:44
X has nothing to worry about. ......

I was spweaking about the dating site, not him. Qe are agreed that these lands are full of willing meat. The maazing thing is when they go overseas, they get picky. Another good thing about checking out those in farang land is it is often easy, too easy, to spot the ex bar girls. Making us ask, what nut case brought them over to shame him. Good fucks for those in farang but to think of hitching stars together is very bad for the stomach.

Now, I have to do some homework on these Burmese babes. The culture of Islam is indeed rich and for many of them Malaysia is heaven. And I am their equivalent of the 77 virgins. One would almost pity them.

Jambo
10-27-09, 16:32
Just the one does not match the other. lol

about our family life..my father is a farmer, he is working with other people and they pay my father thats per day..i just dont know how much... and my mother is working in laundry..sometimes i helped her, i do iron clothes and she wash... our life is really very hard compare to other family here...our house is made of nipa and we dont have electric power at home..my parents cant afford to pay...we dont have TV, washer, refrigerator...we just have transistor radio...maybe u cant believe what kind of life we have here but thats the truth..i dont want to hide it...since i stop studying, if i didnt help my mother working in laundry, i work at home..cleaning, washing our clothes and cooking so when my parents came from work they have food to eat...and after doing all household choires, i am just listening radio....thats our life runs everyday here....but i am still dreaming to continue my studies... i wish my dream will come true someday.....anyway i am still young..

Ok sure, I can believe a girl is poor. And maybe a monger took her to Manila, and got her a Starbucks, and some jewelry, and a manacure, and sunglasses. It could happen. Nice looking girl though, but probably expensive in the long run. But she's breaking my heart haha.

White Whale
10-27-09, 18:09
To check if your buddy is invisible you can use this page, no need to install :-)
http://www.ydetector.com

A problem with this one is it is only interactive and does not collect a log file. You will have to be pushing buddy name to get update.


Can't really go by that. Most Pinays I know and have talked to have multiple Yahoo, MSN, Etc accounts. Plus they can be invisible too or hide the webcam status if they are smart. Use to be a program called Buddy Spy that would scan your friends on Yahoo and could tell you if they are invisible or webcam was on. But its not supported anymore. Might be other such programs though.

Yes, development seems to have ended. Latest version I found was 2.2.19 and I could not find correct setting to get Buddy Spy to work. I did some googling and did not find other similar free SW. Or there was one web based that requires registration but it did not detect invisible online users.

Chocha Monger
10-27-09, 19:05
Just the one does not match the other. lol


Ok sure, I can believe a girl is poor. And maybe a monger took her to Manila, and got her a Starbucks, and some jewelry, and a manacure, and sunglasses. It could happen. Nice looking girl though, but probably expensive in the long run. But she's breaking my heart haha.
She probably has several online Western Union sponsors funneling economic aid through the UN Cash for Ass Program.

Member #3428
10-27-09, 20:51
She probably has several online Western Union sponsors funneling economic aid through the UN Cash for Ass Program.

Now let's be fair here, MoneyGram just took over some of the largest WU stations in PI and is now becoming one of the dominate leaders in the Cash for Ass Program....

While the veterans are used to WU only the fresh babies are starting to know the MoneyGram program as well. :D

Robbaf
10-27-09, 22:05
Just the one does not match the other. lol


Ok sure, I can believe a girl is poor. And maybe a monger took her to Manila, and got her a Starbucks, and some jewelry, and a manacure, and sunglasses. It could happen. Nice looking girl though, but probably expensive in the long run. But she's breaking my heart haha.
Wow, I think you would be surprised how many of these girls are out there. I have met people and seen shit here in the PI that most people wouldn't believe. I was in Tawi Tawi last week and if you want to see what she was talking about go there.

Jambo
10-28-09, 00:32
Oh I am not nieve about poverty in the PI. I've seen the people living in boxes in Manila. Shoot, the people in the province at least got access to water, food, and cooking fuel.

I was just suggesting that the text she sent me did not seem to match the photo of the girl in Starbucks, which is supposed to be her. She needs to work on her total message.


Wow, I think you would be surprised how many of these girls are out there. OTOH if you meant, how many lying scamming c***ts are in chat, I totally agree and would not be surprised at all.

Amavida
10-28-09, 13:27
just the one does not match the other. lol
ok sure, i can believe a girl is poor. and maybe a monger took her to manila, and got her a starbucks, and some jewelry, and a manacure, and sunglasses. it could happen. nice looking girl though, but probably expensive in the long run. but she's breaking my heart haha.all the girls find a way to have a pair of skin tight jeans, a tshirt/blouse, nail polish & a pair of sandal shoes, a cheap bracelet & ring & even a cheap cell phone. they beg money from moms & dads, borrow items from sisters & cousins, and occasionally (gasp) work. there is nothing sinister in this pick. they all want to conform to peer pressure.

now if a girl has an expensive cell phone/laptop/clothing... well.. this pretty much a clear sign that she has been selling her ass (one way or another).

cheers
av

Lustforthrust
10-28-09, 17:12
...i tell you some things of me...when i am givng blowjob to men, I love to get very nasty while i sucking on cock...my spit and mouth slob & drool all over it...very sticky and slimy...VERY NASTY..i did that for a guy before..he tell me to relax my throat and he push his whole cock down my throat..i could feel it go all down and he could see it too..... after he teach me on what to do and how to do it... he LOOOOOVE IT!!.......Ever since, I find that most men love it when women get that way during oral sex..very wild, crazy, make all kinds of sounds, losing all control...like out of control hungry pig eating and making all kind of sex noises. do you liked it when women get very very nasty like the sexual crazy pig during blowjobs? or not into it? If so, what do you find so sexy about it? i love the feeing when I know mens true sex thoughts of me....how they think of me as sex meat....i know you probably did not understand it the way I feel but to some women that is compliment when men view me that way...

k

Cunning Stunt
10-29-09, 03:31
I was just suggesting that the text she sent me did not seem to match the photo of the girl in Starbucks, which is supposed to be her. She needs to work on her total message.

Was you maybe expecting a picture of her out in the middle of some godforsaken rice field, knee deep in shit, wearing a paddy hat and her best rice sack dress?


OTOH if you meant, how many lying scamming c***ts are in chat, I totally agree and would not be surprised at all.

Don't forget the lying scamming c**ts who are foreign and male and will tell these girls anything just to get into their knickers.

FreebieFan
10-29-09, 04:52
Don't forget the lying scamming c**ts who are foreign and male and will tell these girls anything just to get into their knickers.Were you talking to me?

X Man
10-29-09, 08:48
I'm not sure what AV means by "one way or another", but there are plenty of reasons why a lady (even a lady you met on DIA) might have some nice things. The first that comes to mind is having relatives who work overseas and subsidize the family.

X




Now if a girl has an EXPENSIVE cell phone/laptop/clothing... well.. this pretty much a clear sign that she has been selling her ass (one way or another).

Cheers
AV

Cunning Stunt
10-29-09, 11:22
Were you talking to me?

Lol:D - if the face fits, FF. Don't worry, you are not alone; most of us on ISG will be guilty of that at some time or other.

PolyOrchid
10-29-09, 13:02
Maintain your Karma is my motto...

AVGreat advice, Amavida. Bottom line, as humans, we are all looking for the same thing: love, understanding, and peace in our lives.

FreebieFan
10-30-09, 01:22
In the "Modt Active " page this morning.

I'm simple woman with dignity. Widow for almost 6 years & now seriously looking a second love appear.

Well its difficult to describe myself if others would disagree but I'm a simple woman, nice and caring. Fun of reading different kind of books. Physically & mentally healthy, socially well oriented. I believe that God is the center of everything. I was provincial gov't employee. I love making conversations with my friends and my family.

Her name is Ampers from San Francisco, Agusan del Sur.

Shes 71!

Spook
11-02-09, 01:02
In the "Modt Active " page this morning.

I'm simple woman with dignity. Widow for almost 6 years & now seriously looking a second love appear.

Well its difficult to describe myself if others would disagree but I'm a simple woman, nice and caring. Fun of reading different kind of books. Physically & mentally healthy, socially well oriented. I believe that God is the center of everything. I was provincial gov't employee. I love making conversations with my friends and my family.

Her name is Ampers from San Francisco, Agusan del Sur.

Shes 71!Good luck and don't forget to let us know how you fare!

Jambo
11-02-09, 05:27
What the heck is going on?? I know they like to copy...I've seen some Japanese anime characters doing that as a kind of genki (healthy) look. Or maybe some TV star did it? Or is it some secret sign that they wanna suck my dick?

I dunno, but someone needs to tell these girls its not attractive..Just shoot the peace sign.

FreebieFan
11-02-09, 05:48
What the heck is going on?? I know they like to copy...I've seen some Japanese anime characters doing that as a king of genki (healthy) look. Or maybe some TV star did it? Or is it some secret sign that they wanna suck my dick?

I dunno, but someone needs to tell these girls its not attractive..Just shoot the peace sign.The "tongue" thing started out as you correctly state because some teen model ( she was doing Bench ads) did it, and you know these kids propensity to copy.

I "think" they think it looks cool or hot or whatever.

Cunning Stunt
11-03-09, 16:48
Taken from CL

"My Cheating Filipina wife who has another life i never knew about, Her ex husband didnt know she was married and he and i both was paying all her expenses and schooling for 4years before we found out what she was doing.. She has Many yahoo ids and accounts and we think she has more men sending her money! She is full of lies and after we found this out she went missing and we cannot find a way to contact her. If you see this women, or talked to her online understand she is still married and is a user and dont care who she hurts in the process. She only cares about money! She was a student nurse but finished her schooling last March And she will lie to anyone just to get what she wants! On two of her yahoo ids i have opend i have found out more then 20men she was iviteing to see her! one of them men sent me the webcam videos that was taken just after she and i was married. Contact me ASAP if u know or have seen this women and i can tell you anything you want to know about her.. and one more thing she tells everyone she is 19 years old on some ids and others she is 28.. but she is really 32 her name is lorena Olecia.. If you have met her or are talking to her let me know. and what tattoo she has on her left ring finger to confirme. She cannot get remarried untill we are divorced and i contacted the consulate general of the philippines and the US Embassy about getting her visa and passport revoked for fraud if i find her! you can read more on www.dragonladies.org under the id Danraine2007, has photos and proof of what she done."

Whoops – yet another poor dupe.

If you see – do not approach – dangerous(ly cute).

Eaglestar
11-04-09, 21:17
Wonder if any one here has had any experience with a gal on DIA using the name of Sudden Blue 08 from Cebu.

I have had some interesting chats with her but can't figure out where she is heading. Her profile pic attached.

Any one with personal experience please let me know.


ES

Radical Guy
11-04-09, 21:43
Wonder if any one here has had any experience with a gal on DIA using the name of Sudden Blue 08 from Cebu.

I have had some interesting chats with her but can't figure out where she is heading. Her profile pic attached.

Any one with personal experience please let me know.

ESThe feature appear male, plus there is tons of makeup.

Yes, a ladyboy

FreebieFan
11-05-09, 00:55
Wonder if any one here has had any experience with a gal on DIA using the name of Sudden Blue 08 from Cebu.

I have had some interesting chats with her but can't figure out where she is heading. Her profile pic attached.

Any one with personal experience please let me know.

ESRead a few pages back. Shes been discussed by a few guys earlier.

FreebieFan
11-06-09, 01:20
"Hi I'm aya looking 4 real love and give me my dream I pod touch is what I like I'm lovely person, sense of humor and I have a great companion, I'm nice all I want is someone who will love me accept me for who I am, thanks coll me "

I'm just wondering whether I should tell the sweet girl that she needs a valid credit card to get onto both Itunes and the apps store.

White Whale
11-08-09, 06:40
I am relatively new in mongering scene. Just been doing it couple of years. Last summer I was four weeks with a AC bar girl. We have been regularly chatting in YM since. Yesterday I realized: Yikes! I am getting married. She brought her daugher and mother with her in net cafe. And she invited me to her parents' house for X-mas. Soon there will be one less monger in these forums :(

Option Swiz
11-08-09, 18:32
Last summer I was four weeks with a AC bar girl. Yesterday I realized: Yikes! I am getting married. She brought her daugher. Your mileage may vary, but many people in your situation have said "You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl."

Good luck!

FreebieFan
11-09-09, 00:49
I am relatively new in mongering scene. Just been doing it couple of years. Last summer I was four weeks with a AC bar girl. We have been regularly chatting in YM since. Yesterday I realized: Yikes! I am getting married. She brought her daugher and mother with her in net cafe. And she invited me to her parents' house for X-mas. Soon there will be one less monger in these forums :(The good news is Mongers never retire.. they just have periods away from the game.

The bad news is you have 3 generations of one family watching you online... .run away quickly!

White Whale
11-09-09, 16:44
Your mileage may vary, but many people in your situation have said "You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl."

Good luck!

Yeah, it was pretty lame attempt to be funny. I have now been in Phils four times and experienced bar girl WU tactics. She was most unlucky with accidents requiring expensive hospital treatment including heart surgery. Her parents and other relatives did not do much better either healthvise judging from emails I got. BTW I did not send any money so received email frequency suddenly went down and finally ended alltogether.

Member #4351
11-09-09, 17:12
I may be ignorant, but what does "WU" refer to?

Warbucks
11-09-09, 17:41
I may be ignorant, but what does "WU" refer to?

Western Union, Money Gram, Ikobo, Xoom or any other way suckers to ( try to put pussy on lay-a-way) send money.

Member #4351
11-09-09, 18:14
Thanks, I should have known. I checked the abbreviations list and since it wasn't there, I thought it might have been some kind of bar girl secret weapon I should know about.

Chocha Monger
11-09-09, 20:27
Yeah, it was pretty lame attempt to be funny. I have now been in Phils four times and experienced bar girl WU tactics. She was most unlucky with accidents requiring expensive hospital treatment including heart surgery. Her parents and other relatives did not do much better either healthvise judging from emails I got. BTW I did not send any money so received email frequency suddenly went down and finally ended alltogether.
Come on White Whale! Who is to say that the water buffalo didn’t step in that land crab’s burrow and break his leg requiring expensive orthopedic surgery complete with stainless steel pins and rods? Maybe the poor girl love you too much, so much so that she wore out her poor little heart and now needs some new valves. Repeatedly saying, “Mahal kita” has been known to cause serious heart problems in bar girls. And maybe, just maybe mamma did eat that batch of bad rice and needed to have her colon replaced. Who can tell right? Yours is not to question. Yours is to Western Union. Didn’t you know that Filipinas are among the most unlucky people in the world? A very accident prone lot they are. Why do you think that overseas work applicants are required to undergo a medical examination and pay for health insurance before being accepted as an overseas worker?

Of course she ceased communications. You failed to rally to her cries like a White Whale in shining armor. No stimulus money to offset the pesos spent on internet café fees. Shame on you! But don’t fret my friend soon enough a less lucky whale will swim along and feel the sharp bite of her harpoon. :D

White Whale
11-09-09, 22:17
Of course she ceased communications. You failed to rally to her cries like a White Whale in shining armor. No stimulus money to offset the pesos spent on internet café fees. Shame on you! But don’t fret my friend soon enough a less lucky whale will swim along and feel the sharp bite of her harpoon. :D

Why I believe humour is such a serious thing it should be left for professionals? :) Not because of you but my lame start. I was hunted down with the previous BG Captain Ahab style:( Yet She is still out there hunting for deep waters - invisible in http://www.ydetector.com/

FreebieFan
11-10-09, 00:52
I may be ignorant, but what does "WU" refer to?I think Jackson should introduce an abbreviation test for all mongers before particpating in Phils Board.

If so then whats WU would be the first question... whats MWF would be another and the infamous LBM and UTI would be another.

Passing would allow board entrance lol

Cunning Stunt
11-10-09, 04:31
Love this ad from an escort. It nearly had me in tears:

'im k....... 23 singlemom im working in globetelecome,,and i have a 0nlineshope:-)im working as a part time escort for financial problem:-(i need to support my family bcoz he need me:-( i have a sister sick:-( she a a laukemia:-( hope guys u understand me y im doing this:-( plss help me...'

Globetelecome - is that an international dirty chat line?

Not tried her but she looks quite tasty. Charges P2500 for 3 hours. Offers CIM and photo's but not anal. Have her CP No if anyone wants it.

Bob Bowie
11-10-09, 09:34
Why I believe humour is such a serious thing it should be left for professionals? :) Not because of you but my lame start. I was hunted down with the previous BG Captain Ahab style:( Yet She is still out there hunting for deep waters - invisible in http://www.ydetector.com/
great link!

Cunning Stunt
11-10-09, 12:21
If so then whats WU would be the first question... whats MWF would be another and the infamous LBM and UTI would be another.

Passing would allow board entrance lol

OK, mate, I failed:D.

LBM - Little Brown Motherfuckers - tricycle drivers in Angeles?
UTI - Urinary Tract Infection?
MWF - WTF? Man, Wolf, Female - a particularly chancy form of bestiality?

Put me out of my misery!! Mind you I'm the guy who always have to resort to google when I see ROFLMFAO. I'll never get used to this internet lingo.

Robbaf
11-10-09, 22:47
~~~~PRETTY,,KIND,,FUNNY GIRL HERE~~~~ - 20 (MAKATI/MANILA/ORTIGAS)

"hi im aya looking 4 real love and give me my dream i pod touch is wat i like im lovely person,,sense of humor and i have a great companion,,im nice all i want is someone who will love me accept me for who i am,,thanks coll me"

Who wants to buy her a IPod touch...come on, anyone? That is real love:D

http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/w4m/1452145802.html

FreebieFan
11-11-09, 00:31
OK, mate, I failed.

LBM. Little Brown Motherfuckers. Tricycle drivers in Angeles? UTI. Urinary Tract Infection? MWF. WTF? Man, Wolf, Female. A particularly chancy form of bestiality?

Put me out of my misery! Mind you I'm the guy who always have to resort to google when I see ROFLMFAO. I'll never get used to this internet lingo.LBM is loose bowel movements. An acronym every Filpino knows.

MWF is Monday Wednesday Friday. A common schedule for students.

Hope you got a smile out of this. LOL. As in laughing etc.

Jambo
11-11-09, 12:30
How about WTF and YGTBSM?

This is on Cherry Blossoms


My name is Anastasiya and after viewing your profile I wanted to send you a smile and say hello.

If you would like to know more about me, please reply to my profile.

Just click above on Reply to Email.

My ID Code is: C01451662

Guess I should have posted to Ukraine board but I don't know anyone there...the sex is kind of passive, but you can fuck her anyplace you can find a hole..

Robbaf
11-11-09, 22:27
OK, mate, I failed:D.

LBM - Little Brown Motherfuckers - tricycle drivers in Angeles?
UTI - Urinary Tract Infection?
MWF - WTF? Man, Wolf, Female - a particularly chancy form of bestiality?

Put me out of my misery!! Mind you I'm the guy who always have to resort to google when I see ROFLMFAO. I'll never get used to this internet lingo.
How about: LBFMPBRABC = Little Brown Fucking Machine Powered By Rice Activated By Cash:D

Robb

FreebieFan
11-12-09, 01:23
Mj1987

I'm looking a seriuose relation and steak 2 one only if your not this guy sorry don't send me msg

I'm seaking the guy honest and steak 2 one and he want to marry me and responsible for the family and like kids and funny love me who I am and hes not lier and loyal with me no photo don't send me msg ok

I will have mine well done please!.

Stroker Ace88
11-12-09, 03:03
Why I believe humour is such a serious thing it should be left for professionals? :) Not because of you but my lame start. I was hunted down with the previous BG Captain Ahab style:( Yet She is still out there hunting for deep waters - invisible in http://www.ydetector.com/

I have been using detectinvisible.com and ydetect.org for awhile now and they are very valuable tools. You just have to be careful of false results sometimes, so if you are not sure just run the same ID a few times to see if the status stays the same and soon enough you will know if your girl really is running off to bed like she told you.

Also FYI many girls in the PI know about these yahoo status websites, so if you can use it, so can she. Also don't assume she is the one who is online all hours of the day and night, it's not unusual for a few family members to use the same yahoo ID.

Does anyone know of a website that detects MSN Messenger status?

Neon Noodle
11-12-09, 03:42
I would assume the girls have multiple Yahoo ID's and multiple every other instant messenger ID's. I have 3 screen names myself but mostly use the main one. So its easy enough to certain people on certain screen names for anyone.

Eaglestar
11-13-09, 07:05
Found this one on DIA if anyone cares............... I did not chat with her.

mmmm...looking for fun try me, i am better than other bitches..
i am loving person, and very friendly,most of the time,i am was at the gym, to get some work out, also i would love to read some books,and hanging out with my friend, for me i allways wanted to travel again, i am was been few country, wow its really a wonderful adventure,experience, that i never forgot it,specially when my firstime to visit london, who well i born bicol where my dad come from,but i grew up puerto galera then when i am was 16 try to live by myself, sorry couldnt to tell everything about my self,

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
I want to meet a Male
with age from 27 to 31
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ES


i wouldlike to meet. somebody who got nice attitude,and bad guy sometimes,also open minded everything,

Cumpistol
11-15-09, 14:09
Wonder if any one here has had any experience with a gal on DIA using the name of Sudden Blue 08 from Cebu.

I have had some interesting chats with her but can't figure out where she is heading. Her profile pic attached.

Any one with personal experience please let me know.

ESIt's a ladyboy

Nightrider1
11-16-09, 00:33
Just a little story about how easy it is to get a lunch date in the Phil. Last month I was in Cagayan de Oro sitting at the hotel doing an e-mail with DIA open on the side. Got a mssg from a 28 yr old who as luck would have it was also in CDO. We chatted a bit,.her pic was nice, so a lunch date was offered and accepted at Lighthouse restraunt at Gaisano Mall. We exchanged cell numbers and the time to meet. I dont usually get to a lunch date on time cause the girls are always late anyway. This girl suprised me when the appointed time arrived I got a text saying she is there waiting.. Score some points for her in my book and I quickened my pace. Got to the restraunt and i just see one girl standing by the door and she looks different than the pic in DIA. Not that she was not pretty cause she was, just not the pic i remembered in DIA. Well i walked up to her and said " hi Are you ready for lunch? She smiled and said I sure am but can you wait a few min because my sister is dropping off her cell phone for repair but she will be right here in a few min..GRRR i was pissed and i told her " Your sister is joining us for lunch "? She said yes and I decided I did not want this to go any further,,she looks different than her pic and she never even asked if she could bring her sister. i said..I am not hungry anymore so I will say bye bye and I walked .. In about 5 min I get a text.." where are u I am waiting "... I said I told you i was leaving,I dont like that you brought your sister without asking me first..She text..I dont have a sister we have not met yet, I am waiting for you at a table here inside. HMMMM whats going on here?? Is it possible I met the wrong girl?? What the hell i had nothing else going on so i text back "ok I am coming back " Well I walked INSIDE this time and i spotted her sitting at a table in the corner..all ALONE with a sweet smile on her face. We had lunch and a good laugh about what happened and then we went to a movie at the mall but of course 10 min after we sat down we were exploring each others tongues. I asked her if she wanted to leave as the movie was boring and told her we could watch TV back at the hotel. She agreed so away we go to Natures Pension ( the new one ). We did make a half hearted attempt to watch TV but other things seemed more fun. Anyway just a story to relate and makes me wonder if you could not go up to just about any girl in the mall and invite them to lunch and get at least a 50% sucess rate.

X Man
11-16-09, 12:02
It's a good story with a happy ending, but it's also a little bit fked up.

Can you imagine how the first girl felt? A bold and brash man makes his moves, she accepts, then he acts like a prat when she suggests he wait for a few moments. Sad.

Most girls bring a friend or "cousin" on these kind of adventures. Politely bail out if you feel uncomfortable, but spending an hour and a few hundred yen in the food court with two women seems like a very simple thing to do.

Be nice.

X


Just a little story about how easy it is to get a lunch date in the Phil. Last month I was in Cagayan de Oro sitting at the hotel doing an e-mail with DIA open on the side. Got a mssg from a 28 yr old who as luck would have it was also in CDO. We chatted a bit,.her pic was nice, so a lunch date was offered and accepted at Lighthouse restraunt at Gaisano Mall. We exchanged cell numbers and the time to meet. I dont usually get to a lunch date on time cause the girls are always late anyway. This girl suprised me when the appointed time arrived I got a text saying she is there waiting.. Score some points for her in my book and I quickened my pace. Got to the restraunt and i just see one girl standing by the door and she looks different than the pic in DIA. Not that she was not pretty cause she was, just not the pic i remembered in DIA. Well i walked up to her and said " hi Are you ready for lunch? She smiled and said I sure am but can you wait a few min because my sister is dropping off her cell phone for repair but she will be right here in a few min..GRRR i was pissed and i told her " Your sister is joining us for lunch "? She said yes and I decided I did not want this to go any further,,she looks different than her pic and she never even asked if she could bring her sister. i said..I am not hungry anymore so I will say bye bye and I walked .. In about 5 min I get a text.." where are u I am waiting "... I said I told you i was leaving,I dont like that you brought your sister without asking me first..She text..I dont have a sister we have not met yet, I am waiting for you at a table here inside. HMMMM whats going on here?? Is it possible I met the wrong girl?? What the hell i had nothing else going on so i text back "ok I am coming back " Well I walked INSIDE this time and i spotted her sitting at a table in the corner..all ALONE with a sweet smile on her face. We had lunch and a good laugh about what happened and then we went to a movie at the mall but of course 10 min after we sat down we were exploring each others tongues. I asked her if she wanted to leave as the movie was boring and told her we could watch TV back at the hotel. She agreed so away we go to Natures Pension ( the new one ). We did make a half hearted attempt to watch TV but other things seemed more fun. Anyway just a story to relate and makes me wonder if you could not go up to just about any girl in the mall and invite them to lunch and get at least a 50% sucess rate.

Nightrider1
11-16-09, 14:34
It's a good story with a happy ending, but it's also a little bit fked up.

Can you imagine how the first girl felt? A bold and brash man makes his moves, she accepts, then he acts like a prat when she suggests he wait for a few moments. Sad.

Most girls bring a friend or "cousin" on these kind of adventures. Politely bail out if you feel uncomfortable, but spending an hour and a few hundred yen in the food court with two women seems like a very simple thing to do.

Be nice.

X
I thought I WAS politely bailing out..I said " i am sorry but i dont feel hungry now.. have a nice afternoon" I was not rude or unkind to her.. I suppose everyone is different but my policy is i dont accept that a girl brings a friend unless she asks first..If she asks first then its ok,, But to me when they bring the ontorage of couisins or sisters then they are just looking for a freebe meal and not interested in being with me at all.. MANY experiences in 13 trips has born that out.

X Man
11-16-09, 15:20
You have a right to your opinion, but you should recognize a few things:

1/ you approached the wrong gal. She didn't know you. So, there was no way for her to "ask first". You may have been polite, but she must have thought your behavior was bizarre.

Just curious, when gals ask to bring a friend, do you say no?

2/ Even if it WAS the gal you expected to meet, she didn't bring an "entourage". She was with her sis (according to your earlier message).

3/ "Freebie" meal at mall food court might set you back a few hundred pesos. So what? You have to eat anyway.

There have been a lot of different opinions about meeting friends and / or family in these situations. Like Nightrider, I prefer when they come alone, but I've also had some good experiences when being flexible.

X



I thought I WAS politely bailing out..I said " i am sorry but i dont feel hungry now.. have a nice afternoon" I was not rude or unkind to her.. I suppose everyone is different but my policy is i dont accept that a girl brings a friend unless she asks first..If she asks first then its ok,, But to me when they bring the ontorage of couisins or sisters then they are just looking for a freebe meal and not interested in being with me at all.. MANY experiences in 13 trips has born that out.

Nightrider1
11-16-09, 17:22
You have a right to your opinion, but you should recognize a few things:

1/ you approached the wrong gal. She didn't know you. So, there was no way for her to "ask first". You may have been polite, but she must have thought your behavior was bizarre.

Just curious, when gals ask to bring a friend, do you say no?

2/ Even if it WAS the gal you expected to meet, she didn't bring an "entourage". She was with her sis (according to your earlier message).

3/ "Freebie" meal at mall food court might set you back a few hundred pesos. So what? You have to eat anyway.

There have been a lot of different opinions about meeting friends and / or family in these situations. Like Nightrider, I prefer when they come alone, but I've also had some good experiences when being flexible.

X
To each his own..Everyone is entitled to monger the way they like. What I do works for me..What more can I say..It's just my post of my experience. No need to be judgemental IMHO

Jambo
11-16-09, 18:42
I prefer when they come alone, but I've also had some good experiences when being flexible. X
Oh I had a shopgirl I asked to lunch show up with her dad, her kid (which I was uninformed of), and her cutie 18yo sister. I went along with it and eventually re-targeted on the 18yo. Got a date with her later. Didn't work out though.

What was screwed up. I went to their house. Kid's daddy is American, disabled, and gone, trying to divorce the lady. I picked the little girl up for a minute. Girl called me daddy...What a waste.

Actually, once I move to the PI, I am going to re-consider my normal aversion to girls with kids. Not that I want one at home, but many of the young moms are pretty nice looking, and perhaps have a more settled attitude.

Just today, a hot looking girl that I had exchanged ONE email with on Cherry Blossoms, IMd me and demanded that I delete her from my list, or give her my password. Because she "found out" I was chatting with other girls and she hated guys who "play games". Oh and she was certain I was in the PI now since I send her a sms (from the US via Google Voice) dum cu**. lol delete, ignore.

I do stay logged into yahoo messenger 24/7 and have noted some girls think I am online and ignoring them. I try now to change my status and tell them why it says online all the time. OTOH, not a bad little detector of the attitude ho's.

FreebieFan
11-17-09, 00:31
I thought I WAS politely bailing out..I said " i am sorry but i dont feel hungry now.. have a nice afternoon" I was not rude or unkind to her.. I suppose everyone is different but my policy is i dont accept that a girl brings a friend unless she asks first..If she asks first then its ok,, But to me when they bring the ontorage of couisins or sisters then they are just looking for a freebe meal and not interested in being with me at all.. MANY experiences in 13 trips has born that out.I'm 100% with you on that one. I ALWAYS ask if they intend to bring a friend. If they say yes, I say no date. I tell them we are adults and add that no where else in the world does anyone go on a date with a girl+ her friend. Usually they say " Really"? And then agree to come alone.

Manta Ray
11-18-09, 02:00
i'm 100% with you on that one. i always ask if they intend to bring a friend. if they say yes, i say no date. i tell them we are adults and add that no where else in the world does anyone go on a date with a girl+ her friend. usually they say " really"? and then agree to come alone.

i am also with you on this one. i had a similar experience last week.

i had been chatting with a gal on dia and eventually we had set a date to meet in the evening in makati, a venue. in all of our chatting and date arranging, there was no hint of anyone else involved. yet, when i arrive at the meeting point, i see the gal (not looking anywhere near as attractive as her dia profile pic... why am i not surprised!), and she is standing and talking with another gal (also not very attractive). i walk up to her and greet her.

at that point, she says, 'ok where do we go to drink,' and they both start walking with me. i stop and say, 'sorry, who are you?' to the other gal. then my dia gal says, 'oh this is my friend, can she come too, she has nothing to do tonite?'

as i said, neither one of them were particularly good looking, and to be very honest, had they both been stunners, i might have reacted differently. however, i felt quite peeved that the dia gal hadn't asked in advance if her friend could come along, or even mention it as a possibility. to me that is simply rude, given that obviously i would be paying for whatever they consumed in the evening.

i therefore stopped and said that although i am sure her friend (who by the way hadn't said a word up to that point) is very nice, i am not interested in a group date, and furthermore, she should have asked me in advance if she could bring a friend, as that would be the polite thing to do. i told them to have a nice evening and i left them standing there. i should add that i had offered in advance of the date to pay her taxi fare to our meeting spot, but when i left i didn't give her any money.

for me the point is not whether or not a gal can bring a friend on the first date with a western guy, because i do realize that cultures vary and chaperoned dates are not extraordinary here. it is much more a matter of simple courtesy to ask/inform your date partner in advance. by leaving them there, i was hoping that my point was made strongly enough so that she wouldn't do that again.

i ended up having a pleasant enough evening having a few beers with gals i know in rogues!

mantaray

Cunning Stunt
11-18-09, 03:04
..I should add that I had offered in advance of the date to pay her taxi fare to our meeting spot, but when I left I didn't give her any money.

For me the point is not whether or not a gal can bring a friend on the first date with a Western guy, because I do realize that cultures vary and chaperoned dates are not extraordinary here. It is much more a matter of simple courtesy to ask/inform your date partner in advance. By leaving them there, I was hoping that my point was made strongly enough so that she wouldn't do that again.


Yes, but did you ask her if she intended bringing a mate, as FF suggested? On a first date, Filipina's will often want to bring along a friend or family member for moral support. If you ask first and reassure them that you are not an escaped ax murderer, and hint that the date is off if they bring someone along, they will usually turn up alone.

A few times I have had first meetings with girls who did not match up to their profile photo's. Each time I politely made my excuses and left. As you did. No point flogging a dead horse. But I have always given them a hundred pesos or so 'taxi' money. They always travel on public transport so this usually covers it, even if they have come a fair distance.

A few pesos is nothing to us but can mean an awful lot to a girl who doesn't have two pesos to rub together and who has spent time and money coming to meet you.

Jambo
11-18-09, 04:06
This one is over the top. Cherry Blossoms no C01259188

"Her" first text to me made her seem very bright:
"...I am very open-minded, accepting and understanding. I'm able not only to recognize, but also appreciate the fact that people are wonderfully varied creatures with a tremendous range of differing thoughts and opinions. I can easily entertain new or foreign ideas or philosophies without having to adopt them as my own..."
but this was copied from a gay mans friendster page

http://profiles.friendster.com/18625651

Had some nice chats, then I get this:
ME: hello there cathy, its nice to hear from you
Cathy-C01259188: Have a pleasant day Sir: <-OK I taught "Cathy" to address me this way. Then I get this copied and pasted text:

"
First of all i would like to introduce myself. I am Jane Putis friend of Catherine.
I am here to informed you that Catherine was admitted to hospital yesterday because of the car accident. She is in critical condition right now due to this accident. She got little bit blood cloth of her head and a bone fracture that made her life unconditionally. Bone fraction is a medical condition in which the bone is cracked but not broken. And my friend Catherine need to have her treatment. Since bone healing is a natural process which will most often occur, fracture treatment aims to ensure the best possible function of the injured part after healing.
ME: oh that sounds just awful.."

On and on several pages, I guess copied from some medical web site.

Its just so freaking silly...

Member #3428
11-18-09, 04:24
For me the point is not whether or not a gal can bring a friend on the first date with a Western guy, because I do realize that cultures vary and chaperoned dates are not extraordinary here. It is much more a matter of simple courtesy to ask/inform your date partner in advance. By leaving them there, I was hoping that my point was made strongly enough so that she wouldn't do that again.

Actually, you should have known to ask ahead of time as you state you know it is not uncommon for this to happen. And it is very common for girls to show up with friends or family, that's one of the first questions I ask, and you should clarify ahead of time.

It also is a good indication if a girl does or is willing to show up alone that she might just be spending the night also.

Sounds more like you were disappointed that she was uglier then you thought.

Ausieguy
11-19-09, 03:01
I don't even ask if they are bringing a friend. If they do, I sit down, buy them a drink and try to get them relaxed and comfortable and make a few jokes. Then I ask if I "passed the interview" and ask the one I invited if she wants to join me at my hotel. If the other one is hot too, I try to get her over as well to make a threesome.There is another advantage to accepting a chaperone too. If a girl has a friend or cousin along she can often stay out all night, if she is alone she will be expected home early.

Ask them both back to the hotel. If the chaperone "falls asleep" it is a sure sign that the girl you dated is ready to party. I have had great times with the chaperone feigning sleep on the same bed:)

FreebieFan
11-19-09, 10:08
There is another advantage to accepting a chaperone too. If a girl has a friend or cousin along she can often stay out all night, if she is alone she will be expected home early.You must be dealing with quite young ladies. I've never met one that had a curfew though I always check if they have well in advance, just so theres no misunderstanding.

Wicked Roger
11-19-09, 12:14
There is another advantage to accepting a chaperone too. If a girl has a friend or cousin along she can often stay out all night, if she is alone she will be expected home early.

Ask them both back to the hotel. If the chaperone "falls asleep" it is a sure sign that the girl you dated is ready to party. I have had great times with the chaperone feigning sleep on the same bed:)

I tend to agree with the other posters on this.

If the chaperone is hot also I try to enjoy a threesome..or least the chaperone may enjoy watching and then decides she is missing out on the fun.

But I have also had some bad experiences of girls turning up with the family unannounced

Yella Man
11-19-09, 13:34
With over 70 chat mates on YM, I have had about a third of them ask me for money outright because of their so-called financial problems, and another third hint about their poverty stricken lives. I've been polite to all of them, even as I decline to send them money. When I get there in January I'll send them all my Cell Phone number to see who bites. I love the Pinas!

Yella Man

Sammon
11-19-09, 14:31
with over 70 chat mates on ym, i have had about a third of them ask me for money outright because of their so-called financial problems, and another third hint about their poverty stricken lives. i've been polite to all of them, even as i decline to send them money. when i get there in january i'll send them all my cell phone number to see who bites. i love the pinas!

yella man
it has been told to them through the grapewine that if they cry poverty some foreigner will send money . in the begining i have sent $50 to a girl who promised to meet me in manila. ofcourse i got scammed. live and learn.
later i have sent money for airfare to fly them in to meet me. i did not get scammed and they showed up and we had a good time. ofcourse some money changed hands for clothes,gifts and pocket money to them at the end. so it is hard to figure out who is telling the truth or who is lying.
some promise sex right away and others wait till i meet you attitude. majority of them will have sex with you if you behave half way decent.

Manta Ray
11-19-09, 17:00
Actually, you should have known to ask ahead of time as you state you know it is not uncommon for this to happen. And it is very common for girls to show up with friends or family, that's one of the first questions I ask, and you should clarify ahead of time.

It also is a good indication if a girl does or is willing to show up alone that she might just be spending the night also.

Sounds more like you were disappointed that she was uglier then you thought.

Yep, I do believe you've sussed it. As I mentioned in my post, I would probably have reacted quite differently had the DIA gal and/or her friend been hot.

Oh well, we live and learn! And ain't that what makes mongering so damn educational!

Member #4491
11-20-09, 01:18
I used to implement a strict no friends policy. Nowadays I often do just the opposite, at least if we are talking "normal" girls you spend more than 1 hour with before your first attempt to pull down their knickers. I ask the girl if I can bring a buddy and she can bring a friend (according to a few guidelines. No LB, no aunties, no mums, etc). She feels safe, and most often we have more fun between the four of us. In the end we shag anyway. Seating strategy is the key many times. You walk with the girl and chit chat. As a true gentleman you offer her to sit first and then you lock her in on the chair next to you.:.) Good if it is a corner. That way you can establish a physical relation with her. An arm around her when you joke. A hand on her leg. Put your hand on her for 10-15 sec. You know the drill.

With a pro this is just a waste of time. For an innocent girl this is the fastest way to get to know her.

Barba

GregLondon
11-23-09, 14:16
With over 70 chat mates on YM, I have had about a third of them ask me for money outright because of their so-called financial problems, and another third hint about their poverty stricken lives. I've been polite to all of them, even as I decline to send them money. When I get there in January I'll send them all my Cell Phone number to see who bites. I love the Pinas!

Yella Man

If one looks at it from a Philippinas perspective, they soon come to realise that 80% of the guys contacting them through DIA will never actually set foot in the Phils just feeling lonely and in the search of a hot internet partner. A further 15% will just hook up with someone they met at a bar or mall and forget about the monthly long internet contact. A further 3% are just lining up as many girls as they can . Maybe 1-2% are for them serious prospects. So of course many learn that getting some pre sales cash is the way forward. A proportion (esp the ladyboys then turn it into their main profession)

Jambo
11-23-09, 16:34
I want to meet a strong, tall, studly man. Must have money, good job and be able to care for me and my family...I am the only one in my family who works, so I have to support my mother and father, 2 sisters, 1 brother and his wife. This is the Philippine way. I send them 25,000 PHP each month. If you marry me, you marry my family also...I am willing to marry you. [but if] I am unable to provide them what I send them now, then you will be obligated to do it. That is my marriage contract.

Cherry Blossoms C01463162 19yo Angeles, Pampanga
She's got some tits and they're milking 'em. At least she's up front about her costs lol. Maybe the contract is negotiable..

Chocha Monger
11-23-09, 17:06
cherry blossoms c01463162 19yo angeles, pampanga
she's got some tits and they're milking 'em. at least she's up front about her costs lol. maybe the contract is negotiable..
yes. i'm quite sure that the contract is negotiable. she'll renegotiate it every chance she gets for more money and less services. i can think of a lot better ways to spend $533 usd/month than on a chick who is only 19 yr old but already showing tremendous porker potential. based on her location and business sense i'd say that she has already put in some time in the bars. with all of those dependent family members i'd say that $533/month will quickly balloon into $1,000/month or more. one week papa will fall off the water buffalo while working the rice paddy breaking an arm, leg or both. the following week mamma will have a trike accident resulting in the need for expensive lifesaving surgery. the week after that the brother's wife will be giving birth and need money for doctors, [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), baby clothes etc. then the two sisters will need money for school among other things and the leaky roof on the nipa hut needs fixing. if she is sending them 25,000 pesos/month then she is already doing some serious hooking. if you don't let other guys fuck her so she can make money for her family then you will have to pay. it's the philippine way.

Gern
11-23-09, 19:33
Okay, so I probably should have read THIS thread before even starting down the road that I chose, but we all know that hindsight requires no vision correction! Anyway...the details first.

About 8 weeks ago, I learned I would be making a trip to the Philippines. Of course, since I expected to be visiting a hobbiest's paradise, I began my homework on ISG! I received some excellent advice and recommendations from an expert (wicked roger) and several others on the forum.

Wanting to make this more than just a bombing episode in the bars, I began with Yahoo chat groups, and quickly discovered DIA and the other dating sites. After sifting through the 100-200 wannabe's, I settled in for several weeks of chatting with 3 or 4 good possibilities. I knew which one was the winner from the outset, but wanted to have a few backups in case of no-show-itis. I needn't have feared.

My chat friend and I spent five amazing days together, doing a whole lot more than chatting. In between bar hopping and bed hopping, we went out for dinner and sightseeing and shopping. It was a lovely time with a lovely woman. I felt like I was dating again...after 22 years of ho-hum married life.

From the outset, we were realistic. She knew about Mrs. Gern and the family in the USA, so we had no expectations about a "future" together. Nevertheless, I am now 6 days removed from the PI and I cannot get her out of my mind. Mind you...I'm a seasoned hobbiest...this has never happened to me before! She is suffering as much as I am, but we are both muddling through.

I don't necessarily have any questions, and I don't have any advice. I'm just living in purgatory, chatting daily with my amazing friend and hoping for an opportunity to go back to PI in the near future. I'd love to bring her to the USA for a vacation, but recognize that while I can afford the ticket, lodging, and other expenses, the visa regulations are impossible to overcome (any advice there??).

She is a REAL winner for someone who is looking for a sexy (smokin' responsive body), intelligent (college-educated), mature (28), optimistic-yet-realistic woman who just wants LOVE and companionship. She has never asked for a penny, nor do I expect her to do so. Her family is doing fine by Philippine standards, so she isn't looking for a family handout.

So...why am I writing? I guess that even though some of you may want to flame me or have a good laugh at my well-worn story, I'd enjoy chatting privately with anyone in a similar situation. PM me and we can talk more.

Oh...and if you are seriously looking for a woman who will make you happy...contact me for more details. I'd be willing to share (with her permission of course).

GregLondon
11-23-09, 20:08
I think your experience is a good example of why many of us (especially on this particular section) do prefer the phils over Thailand despite the poor food, over priced accomodation and comparatively lacklustre nightlife.

Greg



Okay, so I probably should have read THIS thread before even starting down the road that I chose, but we all know that hindsight requires no vision correction! Anyway...the details first.

About 8 weeks ago, I learned I would be making a trip to the Philippines. Of course, since I expected to be visiting a hobbiest's paradise, I began my homework on ISG! I received some excellent advice and recommendations from an expert (wicked roger) and several others on the forum.

Wanting to make this more than just a bombing episode in the bars, I began with Yahoo chat groups, and quickly discovered DIA and the other dating sites. After sifting through the 100-200 wannabe's, I settled in for several weeks of chatting with 3 or 4 good possibilities. I knew which one was the winner from the outset, but wanted to have a few backups in case of no-show-itis. I needn't have feared.

My chat friend and I spent five amazing days together, doing a whole lot more than chatting. In between bar hopping and bed hopping, we went out for dinner and sightseeing and shopping. It was a lovely time with a lovely woman. I felt like I was dating again...after 22 years of ho-hum married life.

From the outset, we were realistic. She knew about Mrs. Gern and the family in the USA, so we had no expectations about a "future" together. Nevertheless, I am now 6 days removed from the PI and I cannot get her out of my mind. Mind you...I'm a seasoned hobbiest...this has never happened to me before! She is suffering as much as I am, but we are both muddling through.

I don't necessarily have any questions, and I don't have any advice. I'm just living in purgatory, chatting daily with my amazing friend and hoping for an opportunity to go back to PI in the near future. I'd love to bring her to the USA for a vacation, but recognize that while I can afford the ticket, lodging, and other expenses, the visa regulations are impossible to overcome (any advice there??).

She is a REAL winner for someone who is looking for a sexy (smokin' responsive body), intelligent (college-educated), mature (28), optimistic-yet-realistic woman who just wants LOVE and companionship. She has never asked for a penny, nor do I expect her to do so. Her family is doing fine by Philippine standards, so she isn't looking for a family handout.

So...why am I writing? I guess that even though some of you may want to flame me or have a good laugh at my well-worn story, I'd enjoy chatting privately with anyone in a similar situation. PM me and we can talk more.

Oh...and if you are seriously looking for a woman who will make you happy...contact me for more details. I'd be willing to share (with her permission of course).

FreebieFan
11-24-09, 00:46
Okay, so I probably should have read THIS thread before even starting down the road that I chose, but we all know that hindsight requires no vision correction! Anyway. The details first.

About 8 weeks ago, I learned I would be making a trip to the Philippines. Of course, since I expected to be visiting a hobbiest's paradise, I began my homework on ISG! I received some excellent advice and recommendations from an expert (wicked roger) and several others on the forum.

My chat friend and I spent five amazing days together, doing a whole lot more than chatting. In between bar hopping and bed hopping, we went out for dinner and sightseeing and shopping. It was a lovely time with a lovely woman. I felt like I was dating again. After 22 years of ho-hum married life.

From the outset, we were realistic. She knew about Mrs. Gern and the family in the USA, so we had no expectations about a "future" together. Nevertheless, I am now 6 days removed from the PI and I cannot get her out of my mind. Mind you. I'm a seasoned hobbiest. This has never happened to me before! She is suffering as much as I am, but we are both muddling through.

I don't necessarily have any questions, and I don't have any advice. I'm just living in purgatory, chatting daily with my amazing friend and hoping for an opportunity to go back to PI in the near future. I'd love to bring her to the USA for a vacation, but recognize that while I can afford the ticket, lodging, and other expenses, the visa regulations are impossible to overcome (any advice there?).

She is a REAL winner for someone who is looking for a sexy (smokin' responsive body), intelligent (college-educated), mature (28), optimistic-yet-realistic woman who just wants LOVE and companionship. She has never asked for a penny, nor do I expect her to do so. Her family is doing fine by Philippine standards, so she isn't looking for a family handout.

So. Why am I writing? I guess that even though some of you may want to flame me or have a good laugh at my well-worn story, I'd enjoy chatting privately with anyone in a similar situation. PM me and we can talk more.

Oh. And if you are seriously looking for a woman who will make you happy. Contact me for more details. I'd be willing to share (with her permission of course).Every now and again in every hobbiest/mongers life we make a "connection". Its usually when theres a limited amount of time, therefor the connection we make assumes a greater significance than would occur if he/she could spend a normal amount of time together.

My first was an Indonesian girl from Surabaya. We still chat ten years later, but the last sex we had was 4 years ago, but there was magic there and she truly invaded my mind.

A Filipina here in Malaysia did the same thing. She moved to Europe and I still see her every time I travel to Europe.

Theres a current one who occupies a lot of my thoughts but has fallen on very hard times recently.

Theres others too but the vast majority fall into the "what was your name again" post bonk "

Its a wonderful feeling when you wake up thinking about great moments with a lady who you know is unattainable. And who would probably be boring if you had her all day every day. So instead you turn over and smile at the wife. I'm sure theres 100's of us do exactly that!

Cunning Stunt
11-24-09, 08:24
So...why am I writing? I guess that even though some of you may want to flame me or have a good laugh at my well-worn story, I'd enjoy chatting privately with anyone in a similar situation. PM me and we can talk more.


Interesting story Gern and very common. Filipinas are a world apart from the overbearing, overweight frumps that represent the womenkind most of us encounter in the west. If you are not careful they can infect your head and even more dangerously, your heart with that incurable disease Pinayitis. Symptoms include softening of the heart and frequent hardening of a certain other organ, on thinking of the infective agent. More serious symptoms include delusions, the desire to do irrational and stupid acts and inability to pass a WU office without wiring money although it seems that you have avoided the latter financially damaging symptom.

There is no cure except time and patience. I feel for you as you have some tough times ahead until you get over it. Best of luck:).

Yella Man
11-24-09, 18:49
Cherry Blossoms C01463162 19yo Angeles, Pampanga
She's got some tits and they're milking 'em. At least she's up front about her costs lol. Maybe the contract is negotiable..


I could have sworn I bumped into her at Club Atlantis....along with another two-hundred other girls!

YM

Robbaf
11-24-09, 22:05
Every now and again in every hobbiest/mongers life we make a "connection". Its usually when theres a limited amount of time, therefor the connection we make assumes a greater significance than would occur if he/she could spend a normal amount of time together.

Its a wonderful feeling when you wake up thinking about great moments with a lady who you know is unattainable. And who would probably be boring if you had her all day every day. So instead you turn over and smile at the wife. I'm sure theres 100's of us do exactly that!
And then there is 100's of us (Me included:D) who woke up one morning and said bye:) No regrets here and I will not tie the knot again.

Robb

Sammon
11-25-09, 00:12
Cherry Blossoms C01463162 19yo Angeles, Pampanga
She's got some tits and they're milking 'em. At least she's up front about her costs lol. Maybe the contract is negotiable..
I had the same experience. Met a "cherry" girl who works in AC as a nanny. Did not understand the reason why she does not want to work in a bar and make lots of money. She also is looking for a sponsor in return for cherry and keeping her as a GF. Demanding 25,000 pesos per month. My offer was 10,000 pesos per month. In a country like PHI 25,000 is a lot of money.

Brymor
11-25-09, 00:51
I had the same experience. Met a "cherry" girl who works in AC as a nanny. Did not understand the reason why she does not want to work in a bar and make lots of money. She also is looking for a sponsor in return for cherry and keeping her as a GF. Demanding 25,000 pesos per month. My offer was 10,000 pesos per month. In a country like PHI 25,000 is a lot of money.

I agree Sammon. I had a young girl in Cebu that I was seeing for over 2 years and I sent her 5000 pesos per month. She wasn't a bar girl and lived a life of extereme poverty and 5000 per month was a lot of money to her. She was soo grateful for that money and treated me like a king and would do anything for me and I mean anything. Just to put it in perspective, her neighbour who was a 35 year old women with three teenage kids was working shifts in a garment factory 5 -6 days per week and earning 6000 pesos. Hard to believe but she was raising three kids on 6000 pesos per month and it kind of puts into perspective the amount that you are willing to send to your girl. Personally I think 10,000 is very generous to send to your gf, unless of course she works in a bar where she will be used to much higher earnings. Of course the other consideration is that Cebu is cheaper than AC and Manila so you need to take that into account also. Personally I steer clear of the pros ( well as much as I can) and as a result the money that you do give (in my humble opinion) is much more greatly appreciated.

FreebieFan
11-25-09, 08:04
I agree Sammon. I had a young girl in Cebu that I was seeing for over 2 years and I sent her 5000 pesos per month. She wasn't a bar girl and lived a life of extereme poverty and 5000 per month was a lot of money to her. She was soo grateful for that money and treated me like a king and would do anything for me and I mean anything. Just to put it in perspective, her neighbour who was a 35 year old women with three teenage kids was working shifts in a garment factory 5.6 days per week and earning 6000 pesos. Hard to believe but she was raising three kids on 6000 pesos per month and it kind of puts into perspective the amount that you are willing to send to your girl. Personally I think 10, 000 is very generous to send to your gf, unless of course she works in a bar where she will be used to much higherI have a very very sweet friend who I have been seeing on most of my Manila trips. She lives near Bataan and travels 4 hours by bus to meet me every time I'm in Manila. She has a kid with some 'kano and he was sending her p10, 000 a month which was plenty for her to live on, chat online with me etc, buy food, pay rent, etc., etc.

Then he stopped sending her this money fuly aware that he was making his child suffer by not fulfillnig his obligations. My friend got a lousy salesgirl job that paid P3000 per month, then the work place got flooded in typhoon Onding, and so she lost her job. I sent her P2000 this week, which isn't exactly a Kings ransom for most of us. Got the most delightful emotion filled email today full of thanks and appreciation. A small gift, a little bit of personal Karma found.

Jambo
11-25-09, 13:54
http://www.dateinasia.com/

It's a totally free dating site ie you can send as many messages as you like to anyone on the site for free.
Tagging along on this nice run-down from Greg in the General section.

Note that Date In Asia (DIA) asks for your email address, and uses that to form your user id. Nigerians know that, and will put the ID into Yahoo Messenger and see if it works. So if you use a Yahoo email and keep YM up, you'll often get pestered by these jerks.

Tagged I haven't really used. I have an account and get no end of spam from them. A search in Google for Tagged, you see the Wikipedia page is not very kind to them, mentioning many complains about pfishing scams.

I am sure everyone here knows, but just in case, when site like these (also Friendster/Facebook etc) offer to send out invites to all your friends, and ask for your email address and password. Its not a good idea, OK? I do use a "throw away" Yahoo account for monger-related chats, but if someone were to get access to my regular Yahoo account, they would have business, friend and family contact info, birth dates, bank account numbers, all kinds of stuff. Remember Yahoo holds names, email, phone numbers, calendar info, depending on what you put into it. Giving a third party access to the email account allows access to all that data.

I know YOU won't do it, but someone is. Pinays don't seem to think twice about these things.

Sammon
11-25-09, 14:16
I agree Sammon. I had a young girl in Cebu that I was seeing for over 2 years and I sent her 5000 pesos per month. She wasn't a bar girl and lived a life of extereme poverty and 5000 per month was a lot of money to her. She was soo grateful for that money and treated me like a king and would do anything for me and I mean anything. Just to put it in perspective, her neighbour who was a 35 year old women with three teenage kids was working shifts in a garment factory 5 -6 days per week and earning 6000 pesos. Hard to believe but she was raising three kids on 6000 pesos per month and it kind of puts into perspective the amount that you are willing to send to your girl. Personally I think 10,000 is very generous to send to your gf, unless of course she works in a bar where she will be used to much higher earnings. Of course the other consideration is that Cebu is cheaper than AC and Manila so you need to take that into account also. Personally I steer clear of the pros ( well as much as I can) and as a result the money that you do give (in my humble opinion) is much more greatly appreciated.
Well, We cannot totally stay clear of the pros. Pros come with no obligations and use and throw away conditions. Sponsoring a girl and having her as a GF has its own disadvantages. I have sponsored few girls along the way. But they have always come with more demands about money if not in the begining. Yes, they do appreciate your money every month. It is like getting a paycheck so that they do not need to worry. Giving sex and companionship few times a year is not a big deal for them.
The AC girl I am talking about probably found out lots of things in AC concerning how foreigners are. That is why her demand is high. I told her to go work in the bar so that she will make lumpsum money for cherry and maybe lots of money otherwise as a bargirl. She is only 19 year old but constantly complains about her nanny job and it pays her 3000 pesos + room and board. She has to take care of 2 children. Her employer is a Philippino and some of them can be not nice to their employees.

GregLondon
11-25-09, 14:16
I agree Sammon. I had a young girl in Cebu that I was seeing for over 2 years and I sent her 5000 pesos per month. She wasn't a bar girl and lived a life of extereme poverty and 5000 per month was a lot of money to her. She was soo grateful for that money and treated me like a king and would do anything for me and I mean anything. Just to put it in perspective, her neighbour who was a 35 year old women with three teenage kids was working shifts in a garment factory 5 -6 days per week and earning 6000 pesos. Hard to believe but she was raising three kids on 6000 pesos per month and it kind of puts into perspective the amount that you are willing to send to your girl. Personally I think 10,000 is very generous to send to your gf, unless of course she works in a bar where she will be used to much higher earnings. Of course the other consideration is that Cebu is cheaper than AC and Manila so you need to take that into account also. Personally I steer clear of the pros ( well as much as I can) and as a result the money that you do give (in my humble opinion) is much more greatly appreciated.


To put it in perspective 4000-6000P a month is a normal wage for a young phily girl in eg shop or factory, but if this is your total income, you are going to have a very dull life where a trip to Jollybees is a luxury.

A good looking 18-25 year old pro sex worker ought to be earning 25,000-50,000P a month. A typical fairly pro active semi pro can probably hope to make 5,000-20,000P a month from her "side line" .

An attractive girl would be mad to accept a 5000P a month and go and sit around at your parents farm and wait for me to come once or twice a year deal unless she is fairly confident all this is going to lead to marriage as she is losing a quite a bit from not working in the city and secondly she is wasting the golden years when her body is at its peak and she needs to find a guy to sign a long term contract and if she is sitting around in her village you are her only hope.

GregLondon
11-25-09, 14:23
Tagging along on this nice run-down from Greg in the General section.

Note that Date In Asia (DIA) asks for your email address, and uses that to form your user id. Nigerians know that, and will put the ID into Yahoo Messenger and see if it works. So if you use a Yahoo email and keep YM up, you'll often get pestered by these jerks.

Tagged I haven't really used. I have an account and get no end of spam from them. A search in Google for Tagged, you see the Wikipedia page is not very kind to them, mentioning many complains about pfishing scams.

I am sure everyone here knows, but just in case, when site like these (also Friendster/Facebook etc) offer to send out invites to all your friends, and ask for your email address and password. Its not a good idea, OK? I do use a "throw away" Yahoo account for monger-related chats, but if someone were to get access to my regular Yahoo account, they would have business, friend and family contact info, birth dates, bank account numbers, all kinds of stuff. Remember Yahoo holds names, email, phone numbers, calendar info, depending on what you put into it. Giving a third party access to the email account allows access to all that data.

I know YOU won't do it, but someone is. Pinays don't seem to think twice about these things.


To get the most (or anything) out of tagged, you need to be proactive. if you just upload a profile and wait for people to contact you the only contacts will be oldies or African scammers ans young girls dont use it primarily as a dating site but as a dating site/social network/photo store site.

If you use it pro actively its very effective.

The benefits are. Lots of hot girls, many pics so better overall impression than DIA.

The way to use it is to make a decend profile, then search you target range iin the city you are interested in. You can either send a cut an paste message to that you fancy with your YM and when you will be in phils and brief description inc whether you are lookingfor fun or a long term. Alternatively you can uplug in your desired search criteria and hit Meet me it will then generate a seies of girls pics for you to say yes or no to and message them indicating your interest. About 30% will indicate they are inetersted and then you can send your email.

Bob Bowie
11-26-09, 05:18
Tagging along on this nice run-down from Greg in the General section.

Note that Date In Asia (DIA) asks for your email address, and uses that to form your user id. Nigerians know that, and will put the ID into Yahoo Messenger and see if it works. So if you use a Yahoo email and keep YM up, you'll often get pestered by these jerks.

DAI does not use your email in your profile.
From their website "Your E-mail address must be valid, but we will never give it to anyone and we will not show it on your profile."

Untill the last year or so, I would guess 90 percent of 18-30 year old Pinays had at least one Friendster account. Many are now adding Facebook. The best part of reasearching Friendster is the girls mostly tell the the truth on it, since most of there relatives are attached to it. You can see if there are pictures of a local boy friend or if most of there freinds are gays. Also there are many picutres of them so you can see how they look in many diffrent angles or locations (work,school, mall, ect).
I would not use a real friendster account, becasue all your friends can see each other, and that is my worst nightmare. One bitter girls sending an email to all of the other girls- ouch!

Jambo
11-26-09, 06:30
DAI does not use your email in your profile.
Ok explain to me then why when I give DIA my email address as "jambo@yahoo.com", my DIA username becomes "jambo" and thereafter scumbags from Nigeria are able to open chat with me on Yahoo IM.

DIA is using your email as a user ID

Perps are able to determine that user id and use it to email/IM you.

When web sites say they will not "yada yada" with your private information. They are lying, ok? They cannot ensure their own security.

Cunning Stunt
11-26-09, 06:55
Tagged has been a happy hunting ground for me, over the last few months. Being a SN site, you get to choose who your friends are, which suits me fine. There are some very hot ladies on the site but quite a few woofers, oldies and working girls, as well. Although it allows multiple photos, some girls will naturally choose to post flattering/older pictures only. So, it is best to get a potential victim onto webcam first to check her out before arranging a meeting.

There are quite a few older ladies on Tagged, either SADS (single/available or divorced/separated) or wifeys looking for some extra marital fun to spice up their boring lives, quite often with their husbands approval (after all he is screwing around with younger chicks). If you have the time and want a little variety or a change of pace, give one a spin. They can be great fun and are very grateful for the attention, particularly from a foreigner, who they know have so many other younger alternatives available. Met one 45 year old with the body of a 25 year old (although she had to return it after seeing me;)). She insisted on paying for lunch and tried to pay for the motel as well! It made me feel quite uncomfortable. I almost expected her to whip out a camera and ask for a few photos of the action or offer me some taxi money afterwards. Maybe there is a girl’s version of ISG somewhere lurking on the internet and, on it, a report about me:eek:

Bob Bowie
11-26-09, 10:39
Ok explain to me then why when I give DIA my email address as "jambo@yahoo.com", my DIA username becomes "jambo" and thereafter scumbags from Nigeria are able to open chat with me on Yahoo IM.

DIA is using your email as a user ID

Perps are able to determine that user id and use it to email/IM you.

When web sites say they will not "yada yada" with your private information. They are lying, ok? They cannot ensure their own security.
You are mistaken about DIA. You must have it confused with another site.

For those of you who want to learn how to better spot a ladyboy, check out DAI after midnite PI time. They tend to be out a lot during the late hours.

GregLondon
11-26-09, 10:41
Ok explain to me then why when I give DIA my email address as "jambo@yahoo.com", my DIA username becomes "jambo" and thereafter scumbags from Nigeria are able to open chat with me on Yahoo IM.

DIA is using your email as a user ID

Perps are able to determine that user id and use it to email/IM you.

When web sites say they will not "yada yada" with your private information. They are lying, ok? They cannot ensure their own security.


Not sure how you have managed to do that. I and everyone else I know have just made up a user ID entirely indepdent of my email for the obvious anti scamming reasons you suggest. Maybe it was a suggested user name and you accepted the suggestion????

GregLondon
11-26-09, 10:50
You are mistaken about DIA. You must have it confused with another site.

For those of you who want to learn how to better spot a ladyboy, check out DAI after midnite PI time. They tend to be out a lot during the late hours.

Yes you are right. passed about midnight phils time the DIA members logged in increasingly become professionals and the LBs are disproportionately scammers as they are generally quite a bit smarter and more money focussed than the girls. I smart LB scammer can hope to generate 20,000-40,000 a month from working the system which is obviously big money in the Phils, so worth adopting a nocturnal lifestyle and stay up chating to all those lonely and naive guys in Kansas

Jambo
11-27-09, 00:53
You would think, with all the pressure on from Western men for girls with larger breasts, we would see a trend like that in the Philippines. But I just don't see it. At least not in girls under 45yo.

PolyOrchid
11-27-09, 15:45
Maybe there is a girl’s version of ISG somewhere lurking on the internet and, on it, a report about me:eek:CS,

Stunning idea, let me get right on the phone to my Bangalore developers! Being an uber-honest man, I'll be sending you a percentage of the profits. Check's in the mail.

Warbucks
11-27-09, 18:09
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20091126-238461/Yank-warns-of-web-dating-scam-seeks-Cebu-police-help

Yank warns of web dating scam, seeks Cebu police help
By Chito O. Aragon
Cebu Daily News

First Posted 07:38:00 11/26/2009

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Foreigners, beware of this modus operandi.

This American even brought a bouquet of flowers to the airport in Florida, United States to fetch his Filipina girlfriend who had vowed to start a relationship with him.

But after four hours of waiting, Allan Toor asked an attendant at the ticket counter if Arkishra Toribio Manuel was listed in any of the four scheduled flights from the Philippines.

There was none.

He then realized that he had been duped by the woman whom he had given at least P100,000.

Toor was so devastated that he was confined in a hospital for three days because of stress.

But now that he is back on his feet again, Toor of Hollywood, Florida, is seeking justice.

He has asked the Cebu City Police Office (CCPO) to investigate and locate Manuel whom he met in a dating website.

“I am now asking you to look into this matter as she may be making thousands of dollars and scamming others, however if she took the money from me, where is she now? Still in Manila or home (sic),” said Toor in his letter to Senior Supt. Patrocinio Comendador Jr., Cebu City police director.

But the CCPO doesn't have the equipment to track down Internet crimes. Instead, the CCPO asked the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group in Central Visayas (CIDG-7), which has a cyber crimes section in Camp Crame.

Chief Insp. George Ylanan, chief of CCPO's Criminal Investigation and Detective Management Branch (CIDMB), said they would just coordinate with the CIDG-7.

Toor's complaint was contained in a letter dated Oct. 19 which the American sent to Commendador through registered mail.

In his letter, he detailed how he was duped by a woman who was allegedly based in Cebu and whom he met through a dating website.

He described himself in the letter as a “member of good standing” in the dating website who was looking for a Filipina bride.

Toor said he received an email on Sept. 9 from a woman who first identified herself as “ATM.” The woman claimed that she was 29 years old, single and had no children.

Although she was a native of Zamboanga, the woman said she was working in Cebu. She claimed that she was employed in the “medical field” but her contract was to end in a few days.

Their relationship later blossomed as they exchanged emails. She later identified herself as Arkishra Manuel. “We build friendship that leads to a serious relationship,” he said.

In her succeeding emails, the woman claimed that she was supposed to work at the Hollywood Medical Center but decided to cancel her contract because her father was sick and later died on June 7.

She told Toor that she used to stay with a female friend, who had met an American through the dating website and was now happily married. Her friend advised her to try her luck in meeting her mate through the dating website.

It was there that she found Toor.

“When I told her that I lived in Hollywood, Florida, she told me that sometime back, she had sponsorship offered to her for the Memorial Hospital but due to her father's illness, she did not take it,” Toor said in his letter.

The sponsorship, he added, was offered to Manuel by an agency at no cost to her.

“After a lot of emails back and forth, she told me that she found out that the Memorial Hospital was bringing over 18 nurses from the Philippines on Oct. 13,” he wrote.

She then packed her bags and flew to Manila. Toor said Manuel sent her pictures of her flight along with other pictures like her US visa.

When she arrived in Manila, Toor said she contacted another agency.

“Being suspicious, I then went to the member ID number of C01265936 where she first contacted me and found out that it had been withdrawn,” Toor said.

Manuel then told Toor that there was an opening at the Memorial Hospital since one nurse had fallen ill and could not leave for the US.

But, she added she would need money to process her visa and pay for placement fees especially that a travel agency, which was supposed to book her flight, noticed that her visa would expire in a month.

“She then started to ask for help, money wise and I started to send her money as she wished. Each day, something else came up, rent on her dormitory, visa, air fare, agency etc and (she) promised to repay me as her new contract was for 30 dollars per hour,” Toor said.

He said he called the hospital and found out that the pay of a operating room nurse was $32 per hour.

Toor said he continued sending her money and she would send back her flight schedule. She said she and the other nurses were supposed to arrive on Oct. 13.

The American asked her to arrive early so they could get acquainted and could look around for an apartment.

“Matter of fact, I live a mile away from the hospital. She vowed to try and start a relationship with me,” Toor said.

Manuel gave Toor her flight schedules and even seat numbers as well as stopovers. But later, she revised it again and that she would now arrive at 6 p.m. of Oct. 16, instead of Oct. 13.

“I sat at the airport with flowers from 5 p.m. through 9 p.m. watching for her from four Atlanta flights and then went back to the ticket counter and showed them the flight schedule she sent me. They informed me that she was not listed on any flight nor was there a confirmation,” Toor said.

Realizing that he had been scammed, Toor said he got so stressed out that he was confined in the hospital for three days. He didn't hear anything from Manuel so he decided to inform the website administrator.

He also went to the Memorial Hospital and talked with the administrator who told him that there was never any move to bring in 18 nurses from the Philippines

In fact, he added, the hospital was laying off nurses. The hospital administrator advised him to contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which he did. He also consulted a lawyer who advised him to write a letter to Cebu City police.

“Now, if she removed her first identity from the site, how many other identities does she have and who else is being scammed? Seeing her on the airplane flying to Manila had convinced me that it was on the up-and up. Seeing copies of her friends and her visa up to date also made me believe in her and thank God I made copies of everything,” he added.

Now Toor said he wanted the police to look into the matter since Manuel may be scamming other foreigners as well.

Supt. Ritchie Posadas, deputy chief of CIDG-7, said they had a division in Manila that was tasked to investigate cyber crimes.

But he added they would wait for the formal turnover of the case from the CCPO.

Posadas said they had met such problems and had been asked by their central office to conduct an investigation.

Once they received the case folder, he added, they would immediately coordinate with their central office, which had the equipment to go ahead with the probe.

Normally, Posadas said cases like these would fall under the Office of Business Concerns, a unit of CIDG central office.

Ylanan of the CIIB said they had checked the address in Consolacion town given by Manuel to Toor. It turned out that Liomo Highway, sitio Street, Consolacion doesn't exist.

He also noticed that the picture on Manuel's visa looked like actress Karylle Padilla, daughter of veteran actress Zsa zsa Padilla.

Even the pictures, which Manuel told Toor were taken from the plane, appeared to have been taken from Padilla's blog on her multiply accounts.