Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Iwannahumpalot]

Hi

I'm interested in trying out YM to meet some filipina ladies.

Is there a method? Seems the chat room on YM is just full of bable. I'm I looking in the wrong place.

Any advice appreciated.

Regards

[GregLondon]

Hi

I'm interested in trying out YM to meet some filipina ladies.

Is there a method? Seems the chat room on YM is just full of bable. I'm I looking in the wrong place.

Any advice appreciated.

Regards

Yes forget the chat rooms.

What you need to do is to get the Yahoo IDs of a bunch of interested girls, then add them to your contacts list.

For some reason (would be intrigued to know why) whereas MSN (now Windows Live) and Skype are the dominant IM clients in most countries,in the Phils Yahoo Messenger (YM) is totally dominant.

What you need to do is create a profile on DateInasia and tagged (see my posting a few days ago for a complete discussion), initiate discussions with girls you fancy and ask for their YM , then off you go.

[Cunning Stunt]

an obvious but very fruitful way of meeting new playmates is to ask your old playmates to find you some. i have a delicious, rep001ty young friend that i have known and enjoyed many times but who is thankfully not too overburdened with unnecessary brain matter. a pinay bimbo. her name is dee but for some reason during this ym chat she decided to call herself bev, which confused matters no end.

me: hi
her: asl
me: is that dee?
her: yeah
her: why did u know me?
me: yeah its cs
her: cs?
her: oh yeah
me: yup
her: sory
me: friend of dee
her: i put only in my fs
her: i dont know how to send to ure e mail
me: share photos on ym
her: ok wait
her: ok
thats fine
me: ok u have to offer to share photos!
her: wait im looking for that photo internet is too slow
me: ok
me: ok i accepted
her: sory cs
me: ok no worries
her: accept
me: i have already accepted
me: you can share now
her: but here not working
her: accept again
me: i cannot it wont let me. click the photo button
her: i click alredy
her: u need to accept
me: try send a file in actions
her: w8 cant see again
me: you sent a pic of some water lily's!
her: ahehehh
her: w8
me: nice but not what i expected
me: u still awake?
her: tell me if u see my phot
me: yes is that u?
her: yeah
me: any more
me: any more?
her: u see all
me: very pretty - is the last one taken now in web cafe?
her: wow
me: yes i think so
her: o want
me: how old r u?
her: now 21
me: dee said u were 20! any babies
her: u though u asking my age
her: red is 19 years old
me: oh i see there are 3 of u
me: or am i getting confused
her: ok let me introduse u 1 by 1
her: last one in the internet caffe....she is red
her: she is 20yrs old
her: she has a baby
her: the 2nd to the last....she is mae she is 20 years old she dont have baby
me: who are u? dee:d
her: the first photo thats me
me: who are u?
her: im now 21 sexy and ofcurs no baby and single
her: aahehhe
her: dee
me: who is bev?
her: me too
me: ah u r dee and bev?
her: yeah same
me: wow u r really confusing me ..lol
her: ahehehh
her: anyway the 2nd photo is kaye she is 20 years old too and no baby
me: oh so there is 4 of u?
me: all available for fun or not?
her: available
her: u want all?
me: hahaha - not strong enough
her: ahehhe
me: u stay home 2moro?
her: yeah
me: shame - could meet one day next week if im not busy
her: ok
me: when ur free and 1 of yr friends
her: ok red is always free and the other girl
me: which one?
her: the last one in the internet caffe
me: sorry - her name?
her: her name is red
her: red
me: oh who else is free next week?
her: all free
me: ok, i'll be in touch ok
her: ok

after this little exchange, i had to go lie down in darkened room;).

her friends are hot and no doubt i will get around to them all in time but in maximum multiples of two and not all 4 at once as dee/bev suggested.

[GregLondon]

An obvious but very fruitful way of meeting new playmates is to ask your old playmates to find you some. .

Yes this is an important part of my strategy.

As soon as the girls know you are just interested in fun rather than getting married they are often keen to bring along friends as they feel easier to have fun and to give the other girls an earning opportunity. My record was 9 girls in my room - only managed to do 3 of them though - and got some impressed/astounded looks from the doormen.

My nurse friend has been busy recruiting her classmates to meet me when i return to phils soon. One (who I have met and is very cute) is very up for a threesome, another two who are apparently just as pretty are up for being fucked, but apparently she hasn't let them know that she will be licking them out before I do them.

[Wicked Roger]

Yes this is an important part of my strategy.

As soon as the girls know you are just interested in fun rather than getting married they are often keen to bring along friends as they feel easier to have fun and to give the other girls an earning opportunity. My record was 9 girls in my room - only managed to do 3 of them though - and got some impressed/astounded looks from the doormen.

My nurse friend has been busy recruiting her classmates to meet me when i return to phils soon. One (who I have met and is very cute) is very up for a threesome, another two who are apparently just as pretty are up for being fucked, but apparently she hasn't let them know that she will be licking them out before I do them.
Having met your nurse friend Greg she had a nice friend with her (her name began with H) and certainly she is up for naughty things. Have fun and be a naughty boy. Ask friend if it is H.

9 girls......my record is 4 but even for an old fat bugger like me I did all 4 as am a greedy boy and it was my birthday treat care of another ISG member in the UAE

Have fun

[Yella Man]

Yes forget the chat rooms.

What you need to do is to get the Yahoo IDs of a bunch of interested girls, then add them to your contacts list.

For some reason (would be intrigued to know why) whereas MSN (now Windows Live) and Skype are the dominant IM clients in most countries,in the Phils Yahoo Messenger (YM) is totally dominant.

What you need to do is create a profile on DateInasia and tagged (see my posting a few days ago for a complete discussion), initiate discussions with girls you fancy and ask for their YM , then off you go.


I agree! But to make things easier on yourself, make sure you make seperate groups in your YM, e.g. Davao, Angeles, Cagayan, Cebu or whatever to keep all the girls organized. I also include them in my cell phone address book with YM id, dating site id, location, cell number if they gave it to me, and any other info I have on them. It's always easier to delete their info later if it's not needed rather then trying to remember how and when you met them. In Preferences on YM, click on Archive and click "Yes" on storing all chat sessions. That way you can keep all lies (yours and hers) straight. This mongering stuff is such a hassle....but it's more fun than bowling I suppose!

Yella Man

[Wicked Roger]

But to make things easier on yourself, make sure you make seperate groups in your YM, e.g. Davao, Angeles, Cagayan, Cebu or whatever to keep all the girls organized. I also include them in my cell phone address book with YM id, dating site id, location, cell number if they gave it to me, and any other info I have on them. It's always easier to delete their info later if it's not needed rather then trying to remember how and when you met them.

Yella Man
Also when you have this stored and chat with the lady, it can impress that you have 'remembered' her so well after a few days if non chat - has worked wonders for me as they think am so clever and wise. I also add birthdays, family info etc, cos nice to keep up a chat and intersperse it with interesting and respectful questions on family, job etc (rather than the more starightforward "are you shaved, do you CIM": :D)

[Seafish57]

I agree! But to make things easier on yourself, make sure you make seperate groups in your YM, e.g. Davao, Angeles, Cagayan, Cebu or whatever to keep all the girls organized. I also include them in my cell phone address book with YM id, dating site id, location, cell number if they gave it to me, and any other info I have on them. It's always easier to delete their info later if it's not needed rather then trying to remember how and when you met them. In Preferences on YM, click on Archive and click "Yes" on storing all chat sessions. That way you can keep all lies (yours and hers) straight. This mongering stuff is such a hassle....but it's more fun than bowling I suppose!

Yella ManThats exactly what I do. Works for me like a charm.

[Ausieguy]

I was browsing DIA and came across this 27yo virgin. I thought her profile information was worth a read. She wants to warn us all about some scams in Zamboanga !


letletshylady" from siayan, zamboanga del norte :

".. i want to fall inlove, to be kissed and hug-and to be married....to all men that can read my profile especially from western country be ware and carefull..this will can help you...don not believe on girl that looks very sexy,pretty,beautiful and lovely,they are not real girl-they are a ladyboy pretending as a girl,i say this words coz i observe i was working on cafe as a computer attendant,i have a lot of costumers a ladyboy,they sending a hot naked pix of a girl to thier chatmate and ask money or help..and i saw also they wearing a sexy shorsts pants and mini-skirt but totally they are not real girl they are just pretending as a girl...they wearing a artificial long hair[wig]so that they look like a lady..please dont believe...thank you..to all that can read my profile here good luck to your search..and godbless!Nice, a kind and concerned girl.

[FreebieFan]

Ok if English was not my first language maybe I'd be crap at it too. Or more crap than I already am LOL.

But ocassionally in some websites theres examples of seriously mangled English that makes a smiles.

Todays classic was delivered by a young lady of 26 from Davao del Norte (or is it Naughty?) who states

"We grewned up with Jesus Christ in our hearts"

I never knew the verb "to grow" could be changed so much.

[X Man]

Most English verbs are conjugated with -ed to form past tense -- but then there are the irregulars. Native English preschoolers make similar mistakes with irregular verbs. "I eated candy", or sometimes, "I ated candy."

I suspect your friend is mixing grow / grew / grown / -ed.

On the positive side, her confusion of the rules of English have allowed her to create a new word. Bless her Jesus heart.

X (kind of irregular myself)





"We grewned up with Jesus Christ in our hearts"

I never knew the verb "to grow" could be changed so much.

[Jambo]

"You take my virgin"

And the classic, "Oh you so beeeg!"

[Chocha Monger]

My favorite is, "When can we fucks?"

[GregLondon]

We all know Friendster is a good resource for checking a girl's photos. Has anyone worked out a sensible and efficient way of searching for new girls and contacting them, and if so have you had much success compared with the other free sites such as DIA and TAgged?

[Cunning Stunt]

I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.

Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.

She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.

[GregLondon]

I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.

Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.

She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.


With the phils awash with talent,, i'm not sure what the point of potentiallyopening a can or worms would be

[FreebieFan]

I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught 'in delicto', arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it's not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum.

Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn't had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.

She is a rather nice MILF type and I'm sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it's not as if I would be fucking my best friend's wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.For a moment I thought it was my mate who you were tallking about.

He was caught with a few numbers on his phone that shouldn't have been there (always always have two phones!) and some emails that shouldn't have been there (never ever ever let spouse near the private parts of your pc. Always log out and always have a few email adds that are totally private from your " real life"). Anyways he got caught, got shit, Pinay wife mad as hell. But she is NOT a cute MILF so it can't be her.

Its a curious question that you ask. But given that we tend not to have many scruples here (unless its about calling Pinays " flippers ") then I'd probably meet her and see what happens.

But I would also make sure to protect myself by not giving out too many details about who you are etc. So the replica Man you shirt with your family name on the back might not be a good idea. LOL.

[Cunning Stunt]

With the phils awash with talent,, i'm not sure what the point of potentiallyopening a can or worms would be

Exactly what I was thinking. But I guess it is the risk and Mrs Robinson factor and I do like the occasional MILF experience as a counterpoint to the usual stream of dollies that I normally have. The change of pace is refreshing

[GregLondon]

Exactly what I was thinking. But I guess it is the risk and Mrs Robinson factor and I do like the occasional MILF experience as a counterpoint to the usual stream of dollies that I normally have. The change of pace is refreshing

yes but there's an eve gretaer supply of MILfs in the phils so the reality is the real turnon is the another guy's wife aspect

[Cunning Stunt]

yes but there's an eve gretaer supply of MILfs in the phils so the reality is the real turnon is the another guy's wife aspect

Yes, the 'risk and Mrs Robinson' factor that I already mentioned.

[Chocha Monger]

I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.

Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.

She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.
Cunning Stunt,

Go right ahead and meet her for coffee and cream. A fellow monger would not begrudge you a few rounds with his spent hen. I dare say that her disposition will be much improved after the engagement. So, actually you'd be helping that monger by working off some of the old clucker's pent up anger. It might be a very passionate experience for you. She is likely to be very lively in the sack as she is fucking for vengeance.

[Jambo]

Oh yeah. I remember an upper-class pinoy I knew in the South. He was virtually "separated" from his wife, but still living in the same house with her! He was running around with lots of local chickas. But she still had some power over him as every time he heard that his wife was in the area he took off scared. Kind of like Captain Hook and the alligator in Peter Pan.

And his 40-something wife, who was not at all bad looking, was on the make in a subtle way. She didn't want me, but definitely zeroed in on a 20-something partner of mine. It was funny.

[Warbucks]

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[X Man]

You seem to focus on the negative side of everything. Do you enjoy your life?
X


As we can see from the back stabbing, personal attacks and put downs on various threads there is no honor amongst mongers. His wife should be fucked in all holes but what happens if the shoe is on the other foot?

[GregLondon]

Cunning Stunt,

Go right ahead and meet her for coffee and cream. A fellow monger would not begrudge you a few rounds with his spent hen. I dare say that her disposition will be much improved after the engagement. So, actually you'd be helping that monger by working off some of the old clucker's pent up anger. It might be a very passionate experience for you. She is likely to be very lively in the sack as she is fucking for vengeance.


There's probably an 80% chance that it would play out this way. But not for sure. Some guys are psycho jealous guys, and you may find yourself embroiled in a complicatated emotional situation. Personally in light or so many other options I would just pick a non attached girl but each to his own.

[Cunning Stunt]

But I would also make sure to protect myself by not giving out too many details about who you are etc. So the replica Man you shirt with your family name on the back might not be a good idea. LOL.

Hey, I know you are a grandmaster at this game but you are really teaching granny to suck eggs here ..:D.

And although I wear my Man U shirt with pride, I wouldn't be seen dead with any players name or number on the back. And as to a non-players name on the back of the glorious red ..your joking ..should be a hanging offence!!!

BTW - Did you see what the second XI did to the German champions the other night?

[Ubique]

I know there are a lot of old hands here who know asia and the Philippines very well much more than I, but I thought I'd share some of my experiences with you all & get some feedback/input.

I created an account on DIA a few months back, posted an oblique photo on there & was fairly overt on my profile that I was not looking for anything serious. Also, just kept it up for a week until I hit it off with a couple of ladies and took my picture off and don't look at it much anymore.

Short of it is I struck up a friendship with 2 ladies from the Phil and still keep in regular contact with both.

One of the ladies is a real story. We chatted by text only a few times, then by cam, but she would not show her complete face. Then she says she wants to email me. I say sure. She then sends an email story out of a movie. She posted the account and the photo online for her sister who just had an illegitimate child & she is looking for a guy for her. Right.

But it's okay as I know she probably just doesn't want to admit she was looking for someone to play with. She says she did not expect to meet someone like me here & she feels like she needs to come clean. She is really married to a guy who works overseas & is never home and who is kind of a jerk to her so we see each other for the first time and after a few weeks, we send signals to each other that we want to do more than chat. & we do more than chat she's really incredible, very attractive & dynamic. Multi-orgasmic, university educated, cool, smart. Wow. Who knew?

The other is substantially younger, but we chatted for 3 months before anything ever happened. She's not as worldly or wise, but she's a handful too & really curvy and smart quick witted.

Both want to meet me in person the next time I am the Philippines. Could be trouble ahead.

So. There are some real gems in the Philippines. My rules are that I have been very honest about who I am, what I am looking for, and treat them with respect and as a genuine friend.

I've also kept up via sms and phone calls with a real hotty philippina I met in Hong Kong seen her twice in the past 6 months will see her again in a couple of months. She's genuinely hot & is an incredibly creative in bed, but much moodier and erratic.

[Blink157]

hmmm...Ubique,..just meet them and fuck them LOL, I mean what else can I say. Enjoy live to the up most.Dont think so much, they also don't think so much and live from one day to another. Maybe when you touch Philippines soil, you will find already some other fine ass in Manila. Geez, with so many baklas in the Philippines and short dicked guys its heaven place for foreigners, di ba?
BTW I was away from the forum for some weeks due business trips in Europe.
Shagged my best friends wife :D which I'm also not proud of, but that's life. However I know her longer then he does. (yes she work in a camsite before).
With the age of 27 she was the eldest women I shagged. Living in the Philippines made me a bit choosy if it come to age. However she was very lively in bed. Well she didn't had a dick since years :D. Im allways willing to help out :D. Speaking of this, the next one Im going to meet is around 30, her family is well off and I know her from facebook. So, lets see how that works out. She told me she also likes girls :D Life is good hahahaha.
Anyway Im back in two weeks in the Philippines and Im pretty sure I party new year in AC as always, except my litte GF from Lau union will fuck me to dead..but that wont happen. If somebody is around and wanted to meet up for a beer, please PM me.
Blink having a BEcks beer now. Guess where I am :D

[Red Kilt]

Yes, the 'risk and Mrs Robinson' factor that I already mentioned.I'd wear protection if I was you. Apart from the pregnancy thing, it is likely that the hubby has also been bonking her, despite what she might say. The women are usually submissive to the hubby even if she doesn't like him. It seems a cultural thing. Also if she is willing to go with you, she may also be going with someone else that you don't know about.

If he has been shagging around he could be loaded with anything, and so could she.

[Hairy Wonder]

I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.

Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.

She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.

I read about your dilemma just now, and thought I would throw out my own opinion on your situation.

As it has been my limited experience, most Filipinas are married, or at the very least, a single mother. Therefore, even the 18 year old little waif you pick up could be a MILF. Most that are willing to meet with a monger are pulling on the wallets of many others. So when you fuck one of them, you are potentially fucking the main squeeze of a fellow mongerer. Possibly even that of another ISG member.

I guess it all comes down to what you personally feel is right or wrong. My worst fear in this situation, would be the hubby finding her in my bed, and becoming enraged that someone else is servicing her while he has been searching for others to service. This could be a very dangerous game to play. Worse yet, the wifey might use you to make hubby jealous, and try to put on a public show with you for his benefit.

Enjoy the game!
HW

[FreebieFan]

Hey, I know you are a grandmaster at this game but you are really teaching granny to suck eggs here ..:D.

And although I wear my Man U shirt with pride, I wouldn't be seen dead with any players name or number on the back. And as to a non-players name on the back of the glorious red ..your joking ..should be a hanging offence!!!

BTW - Did you see what the second XI did to the German champions the other night?Aston Villa didn't score as much as I did this weekend, but I guess one shot was enough. LOL.

[Cunning Stunt]

This could be a very dangerous game to play. Worse yet, the wifey might use you to make hubby jealous, and try to put on a public show with you for his benefit.

Enjoy the game!
HW

I suspect that this lady is just out to get laid. She gave me her real name and I was able to Google her and found out that everything she told me about her job and location were correct. So I am the one who hold all the real aces.

As FF suggested, I do use a pseudonym both as a name and email address so there is no way that she or her errant husband could locate me. I am actually, despite my online persona, a quite reserved, diffident and private person;).

We have more or less agreed to meet in a neutral venue (a mall) and if we click, repair to a nearby motel. Question is will troublesome little head overrule sensible big head yet again? I suspect so but we will see.


Aston Villa didn't score as much as I did this weekend, but I guess one shot was enough. LOL.

Grrrrr....

[Hairy Wonder]

I was amazed to receive a message today from a DIA girl attempting a first contact with me! She actually quoted a line out of my profile.

Some time ago, after reading a suggestion on this forum, I posted my "bad boy" DIA profile. I had been using a "nice guy" profile up to that point. But a steady gf (that didn't know about the "bad boy" profile) asked me to stop using DIA. And besides, I was getting more interest from the girls with the "bad boy" profile anyhow. So I have all but abandoned the "nice guy" profile. Now that the gf is gone, I'm using DIA more frequently to setup some hopefully assured non-pro pussy on my next visit. My worst problem now, is that there are so many that want a piece of me. I might never be able to leave the PI if I try to service all of these cuties!

I truly believe that the "bad boy" profile works better than the "nice guy" one. The girls may not want to admit that they really want to be fucked. But their responses to my different profiles show it pretty clearly.

Happy mongering!
HW

[Carmex]

I read about your dilemma just now, and thought I would throw out my own opinion on your situation.

As it has been my limited experience, most Filipinas are married, or at the very least, a single mother. Therefore, even the 18 year old little waif you pick up could be a MILF. Most that are willing to meet with a monger are pulling on the wallets of many others. So when you fuck one of them, you are potentially fucking the main squeeze of a fellow mongerer. Possibly even that of another ISG member.

I guess it all comes down to what you personally feel is right or wrong. My worst fear in this situation, would be the hubby finding her in my bed, and becoming enraged that someone else is servicing her while he has been searching for others to service. This could be a very dangerous game to play. Worse yet, the wifey might use you to make hubby jealous, and try to put on a public show with you for his benefit.

Enjoy the game!
HW

Speaking of MILF's, the other day...

One day little Johnny came home early from school and heard some "weird" noises coming from upstairs. He goes up to investigate and when he opens the door to his parents bedroom, he sees Dad just pummeling the wife doggy style. Dad is just putting it to her and she is yelling and screaming, and little Johnny gets upset and runs downstairs crying.

Well, Dad finishes up and decides its time to go downstairs and have "the talk" with his son. As he dresses in his robe and heads downstairs, he hears some other screaming and yelling, so he begins to rush not sure of what he will find.

As he enters the living room, he sees Grandma, face down ass up, getting pummeled by little Johnny from behind. He screams, "What the hell is going on here"?

And little Johnny looks up and says, "Not so funny when it's your mom is it asshole!"

True story...:)

(not really, its a Robin Williams joke)

[Hairy Wonder]

Hey Carmex!

Stop telling all my dirty little secrets! :eek: Grandma was asking for it! ;)

Err.....uh....Not true at all!!!!!! I've always live in a single story house! :D

HW

[FreebieFan]

Hi, I am Emily. I am 30 years old. I am Im a single mom who is workinng here with a musical band to sustain my kids there in the Philippines.

I\'m failure about in loving a person. I love previously a guy which I didn\'t know that he is still a married person. He said previously that he is separated and annul with his wife. I lately know that he is a muslim and I am his second wife which is prohibited to my religions because I\'m a Roman Catholic. We have a 5 years old child now who is there in the Philippines.I am not marry of that person even I have a Baby in my tomb. I want those who can mingle with other person.So if you are free to mingle in her tombs you might have a chance !

[FreebieFan]

Got a message from "needlove01".,. Describes herself as 18. We go thru the Hi Hello, dance.

I ask her why her profile says she has a kid and shes only 18. She says actually I have two kids and I had my first kid at 13! At 13 only!

Second one at 15.

Clearly she must have been off school on the day they taught the sex education class. Or maybe the good ol Catholic Church is happy at this poor kids outcome in life. She has no chance and no future.

[Orangevale Rob]

Once they received the case folder, he added, they would immediately coordinate with their central office, which had the equipment to go ahead with the probe.

Yeah, I bet they'll have their best detectives on the case...

[Cunning Stunt]

I suspect that this lady is just out to get laid.

...mission accomplished and boy, did that lady need laying real good n' hard.

Do I feel guilty? Nope!

[PolyOrchid]

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is DIA?DIA is the acronym for a dating website, Date in Asia, where some mongers meet girls. It is located at www.dateinasia.com

[Suck Me Dry]

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is DIA?It,s an asian dating website called Dateinasia

[Hairy Wonder]

I have been using DIA (www.dateinasia.com) for about 4 or 5 years now. As many other mongers have stated on here, it is very hit or miss on finding some action, most girls say that they are looking for a husband, and many will only say "Hi" or "Hello" when they send you a message. But you do meet the occasional exception.

Initially, I started using DIA with what I call my good guy profile. In this profile, I did not mention anything about sex. I got a fair amount of responses to this profile. Then, I read a report on here about how some mongers had a good guy profile and a bad boy profile. I decided to give this a try, and proceeded to post my bad boy profile immediately. Soon after posting it, I had several girls (mostly young Filipinas) sending me messages.

However, one message that stood out, was from a woman in her mid 30's. It was a short message in reply to what I wrote in my profile, which simply asked "You really like sex a lot, don't you?" Well I could not let an opportunity like that pass me by! I sent an immediate reply which said "Yes! As much as I can get!" That set the stage for a long string of messages from this woman. Along the way, she revealed to me that she was not interested in having sex with me, because she had a boyfriend. But she offered to introduce me to many of her friends that might be interested in having sex with me. Of course, I agreed to this!

Before I ever had a chance to go to meet this woman, or her friends, she broke up with her boyfriend, moved to another area, and cut off communications with me. Until now, that is. Today, she buzzed me on Yahoo and we started a long, and rather interesting chat session. It started out very innocent, with casual conversation about our respective families, what we did for Christmas, and etc. Then, it somehow drifted into talking about sex. As I recall (I'll have to review my Yahoo archive), she asked me how much sex I was getting. Then it grew into us discussing our preferences and fantasies. The next thing I know, she was asking me if I would fuck her the during my next visit to the Philippines. Me being the gentleman that I am, I told her that I would not dishonor her like that because I valued our friendship to much. BULLSHIT!!!!! :D I told her that I not only want to fuck her, but I want to play out all of the fantasies we had been discussing and any more that we can think of! She explained to me that she preferred CG style, and I replied that I enjoy that also, but I want doggie sometimes too! She said "I like that style, but I have never been fucked in the ass. Would you be my first?" In my mind, I was thinking "Hell Yeah!!!" But I simply told her that was totally up to her.

By the end of the chat session (at least 2 hours) she was telling me that she was very wet, and wanting to masturbate thinking about what we will do! She told me that she is willing to fuck me 4 or more times a day, and she does not mind if I go out to fuck other girls. She said she wants me to do anything that makes me happy! She even agreed to try a bi-sexual 3 some with me and an unknown girl. So if any of you mongers in the Cebu area know of girls that like to go bi, please let me know who they are, and where to find them. I want to try multiple female partners with this girl. Hopefully, she will keep wanting to make me happy! If she gets tired of it, at least it will be fun up to that point.

I have also told girls in Davao, Molave, GenSan, Manila, and many other Philippine cities, as well as Thailand that I will meet them and fuck them while I am in their areas. I might have to quit work for a while to take care of all my contacts! ;) There are other girls that have told me they are not interested in having sex with me, but they will introduce me to other girls that want it.

Ain't the internet a great thing?

Happy mongering!
HW

[Royal Blue]

I have been using DIA (www.dateinasia.com) for about 4 or 5 years now. As many other mongers have stated on here, it is very hit or miss on finding some action, most girls say that they are looking for a husband, and many will only say "Hi" or "Hello" when they send you a message. But you do meet the occasional exception.

Initially, I started using DIA with what I call my good guy profile. In this profile, I did not mention anything about sex. I got a fair amount of responses to this profile. Then, I read a report on here about how some mongers had a good guy profile and a bad boy profile. I decided to give this a try, and proceeded to post my bad boy profile immediately. Soon after posting it, I had several girls (mostly young Filipinas) sending me messages.

However, one message that stood out, was from a woman in her mid 30's. It was a short message in reply to what I wrote in my profile, which simply asked "You really like sex a lot, don't you?" Well I could not let an opportunity like that pass me by! I sent an immediate reply which said "Yes! As much as I can get!" That set the stage for a long string of messages from this woman. Along the way, she revealed to me that she was not interested in having sex with me, because she had a boyfriend. But she offered to introduce me to many of her friends that might be interested in having sex with me. Of course, I agreed to this!

Before I ever had a chance to go to meet this woman, or her friends, she broke up with her boyfriend, moved to another area, and cut off communications with me. Until now, that is. Today, she buzzed me on Yahoo and we started a long, and rather interesting chat session. It started out very innocent, with casual conversation about our respective families, what we did for Christmas, and etc. Then, it somehow drifted into talking about sex. As I recall (I'll have to review my Yahoo archive), she asked me how much sex I was getting. Then it grew into us discussing our preferences and fantasies. The next thing I know, she was asking me if I would fuck her the during my next visit to the Philippines. Me being the gentleman that I am, I told her that I would not dishonor her like that because I valued our friendship to much. BULLSHIT!!!!! :D I told her that I not only want to fuck her, but I want to play out all of the fantasies we had been discussing and any more that we can think of! She explained to me that she preferred CG style, and I replied that I enjoy that also, but I want doggie sometimes too! She said "I like that style, but I have never been fucked in the ass. Would you be my first?" In my mind, I was thinking "Hell Yeah!!!" But I simply told her that was totally up to her.

By the end of the chat session (at least 2 hours) she was telling me that she was very wet, and wanting to masturbate thinking about what we will do! She told me that she is willing to fuck me 4 or more times a day, and she does not mind if I go out to fuck other girls. She said she wants me to do anything that makes me happy! She even agreed to try a bi-sexual 3 some with me and an unknown girl. So if any of you mongers in the Cebu area know of girls that like to go bi, please let me know who they are, and where to find them. I want to try multiple female partners with this girl. Hopefully, she will keep wanting to make me happy! If she gets tired of it, at least it will be fun up to that point.

I have also told girls in Davao, Molave, GenSan, Manila, and many other Philippine cities, as well as Thailand that I will meet them and fuck them while I am in their areas. I might have to quit work for a while to take care of all my contacts! ;) There are other girls that have told me they are not interested in having sex with me, but they will introduce me to other girls that want it.

Ain't the internet a great thing?

Happy mongering!

HWHehe good job...we should all be so lucky!

Out of curiosity, what kind of things go into a 'bad boy' profile?

[Cunning Stunt]

We all know that ‘freebies’ are very seldom really that. However much we like to pretend to ourselves that it’s our good looks, personality or large dicks that attracts the Pinays, we mostly know in our ‘heart of hearts’ that this is really a bunch of bollocks and it is the thickness of our wallets or our future cash and security potential that really swings the deal and gets their legs open. This applies equally to short term liaisons that expect and usually get meals, gifts and taxi money (really just a euphemism for fuck pay-off) and longer term relationships which invariably work out the more expensive. Marriage is, of course, the biggest financial ball breaker of all.

But with a surprising number of Filipinas, provided you word it right, you can cut out all the bullshit and go straight to the easiest and most unproblematic scenario which is straightforward pussy for pesos. Even with so called ‘good’ girls this can often not be a problem. From hearsay and personal experience, I know that it is very common for college girls to fund their tuition fees by a little whoring on the side.

I have been recently been chatting online to a very bright, attractive and articulate college graduate who also happens to be my favourite body type, namely a cute, little spinner. We have been exchanging emails, YM chat and SMS’s for some time but I didn’t seem to be getting closer to a meeting and was about to give up. In what would have been our last YM chat session she mentioned that her boarding house rent was due and she was short a couple of thousand. I replied that I could help her out there but would she meet me and be very nice to me. There was silence for a while and I was about to log out when she replied ‘you want to fuk me for sum money’. I replied that I knew she wasn’t a prostitute but I liked and wanted to help her but I was a guy with needs which she would be able to help me with. Within a few minutes we was arranging when, where and what exactly was available (mostly everything but no ass play:)). A result.

Incidentally, many girls will contact you using their actual YM account from which you can often get their real name. A quick google search will frequently reveal much interesting personal information about the person which is useful to compare against what she has already told you. I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.


I have to ameliorate the pain in my heart. They say time can be a panacea of all wounds, mine is no exemption. I don’t like myself to come into a stasis. But who would help me? Can I do this alone?

I wish I am just a lake and remain passive for years. But I am not, he is tearing me down without him knowing it. While he is on the road to recovery, I on the other hand, am stuck in this crossroad.

Life is unfair…I want to get over him… But my complex mind can’t process that simple task. I am reticent about this before, but this time I am letting it out. I have been enamored to him surreptitiously. Can I admit it to him. Can I confess to him my undying devotion in a vociferous cry, I think not.

If only I can use nepenthe to forget him and turned myself into narcoleptic creature. But my mind is active, it wanders…it wonders…

Why I am so vitiated…?

When will I have the courage…?

I am seeing spinsterhood in the horizon

Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.

[Chocha Monger]

We all know that ‘freebies’ are very seldom really that. However much we like to pretend to ourselves that it’s our good looks, personality or large dicks that attracts the Pinays, we mostly know in our ‘heart of hearts’ that this is really a bunch of bollocks and it is the thickness of our wallets or our future cash and security potential that really swings the deal and gets their legs open. This applies equally to short term liaisons that expect and usually get meals, gifts and taxi money (really just a euphemism for fuck pay-off) and longer term relationships which invariably work out the more expensive. Marriage is, of course, the biggest financial ball breaker of all.

But with a surprising number of Filipinas, provided you word it right, you can cut out all the bullshit and go straight to the easiest and most unproblematic scenario which is straightforward pussy for pesos. Even with so called ‘good’ girls this can often not be a problem. From hearsay and personal experience, I know that it is very common for college girls to fund their tuition fees by a little whoring on the side.

I have been recently been chatting online to a very bright, attractive and articulate college graduate who also happens to be my favourite body type, namely a cute, little spinner. We have been exchanging emails, YM chat and SMS’s for some time but I didn’t seem to be getting closer to a meeting and was about to give up. In what would have been our last YM chat session she mentioned that her boarding house rent was due and she was short a couple of thousand. I replied that I could help her out there but would she meet me and be very nice to me. There was silence for a while and I was about to log out when she replied ‘you want to fuk me for sum money’. I replied that I knew she wasn’t a prostitute but I liked and wanted to help her but I was a guy with needs which she would be able to help me with. Within a few minutes we was arranging when, where and what exactly was available (mostly everything but no ass play:)). A result.

Incidentally, many girls will contact you using their actual YM account from which you can often get their real name. A quick google search will frequently reveal much interesting personal information about the person which is useful to compare against what she has already told you. I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.



Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.
I'm sure your hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) will be a panacea for her narcolepsy. ;)

[Cunning Stunt]

I'm sure your hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) will be a panacea for her narcolepsy. ;)

Never on a first date..;).

Thought for a moment from the heading that the famously cynical CM was about to come out with some sanctimonious pussy shit like what would be expected from another senior member:D.

[FreebieFan]

I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.

Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D."Vitiated ".. hmmm not exactly a word thats in everyday use in my office !

I once had a CLS ( as in cute little spinner) for whom I bought a dictionary. The result was disaster. She would think of a word, then use a close alternate and would make sentences whos meanings were imposssible to fathom.

Vitiate makes the think that dictionary has done the rounds.

[GregLondon]

I agree, unless you are a good loking guy within 10 yeasr of her age she will always need some payoff. Of course some guys do try the bate and switch. Giving the impression they are looking for awife or long erm lover whenn really they are just interested in some short term sex. I think girl's feel cheated if they give sexually and dont receive anything in return. For the ones who don't see themselves as professional meals, gifts etc are a compromise. Almost always the cash would be more useful (and less of a pain for you to give as it doesnt involve shopping. The key thing for this type of girl is face. She doesn't want to feel like a hooker though she is happy to have sex and would love the money. It's one of the reasons that many of the girls are not so keen on younger guys, as they don't know the score. If one can frame the cash as college fees , help with rent or even an oversizd keep the change taxi contribution, this usually works out best.

CS is right that it's an accepted part of college life in the Phils that man firls will use their bodies to help finance their tuition.




We all know that ‘freebies’ are very seldom really that. However much we like to pretend to ourselves that it’s our good looks, personality or large dicks that attracts the Pinays, we mostly know in our ‘heart of hearts’ that this is really a bunch of bollocks and it is the thickness of our wallets or our future cash and security potential that really swings the deal and gets their legs open. This applies equally to short term liaisons that expect and usually get meals, gifts and taxi money (really just a euphemism for fuck pay-off) and longer term relationships which invariably work out the more expensive. Marriage is, of course, the biggest financial ball breaker of all.

But with a surprising number of Filipinas, provided you word it right, you can cut out all the bullshit and go straight to the easiest and most unproblematic scenario which is straightforward pussy for pesos. Even with so called ‘good’ girls this can often not be a problem. From hearsay and personal experience, I know that it is very common for college girls to fund their tuition fees by a little whoring on the side.

I have been recently been chatting online to a very bright, attractive and articulate college graduate who also happens to be my favourite body type, namely a cute, little spinner. We have been exchanging emails, YM chat and SMS’s for some time but I didn’t seem to be getting closer to a meeting and was about to give up. In what would have been our last YM chat session she mentioned that her boarding house rent was due and she was short a couple of thousand. I replied that I could help her out there but would she meet me and be very nice to me. There was silence for a while and I was about to log out when she replied ‘you want to fuk me for sum money’. I replied that I knew she wasn’t a prostitute but I liked and wanted to help her but I was a guy with needs which she would be able to help me with. Within a few minutes we was arranging when, where and what exactly was available (mostly everything but no ass play:)). A result.

Incidentally, many girls will contact you using their actual YM account from which you can often get their real name. A quick google search will frequently reveal much interesting personal information about the person which is useful to compare against what she has already told you. I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.



Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.

[Chocha Monger]

Never on a first date..;).

Thought for a moment from the heading that the famously cynical CM was about to come out with some sanctimonious pussy shit...
Come now Cunning Stunt! I don't think I'm known for being pious or devout. And I do have a reputation to protect even in our wonderfully depraved community. I enter a plea of guilty as charged on the cynical bastard charge though but it is woman that made me so. :D

Frankly, getting scalded with hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) is not the worst thing that can happen to these girls. I know a few mongers who shit on them. ;)

[Cunning Stunt]

i know a few mongers who shit on them. ;)

now as regards rep001 play, i'll join the crowd behind mrs warboys in the 'sanctimonious pussy' section. that shit is disgusting ..lol.

[Warbucks]

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[FreebieFan]

Anybody else want some?The Mike Tyson of the board has spoken!

[Starchild2012]

Anyways. Go on DIA and look for Leahho from Bogo. She looks just right for you, and will be a grand seat mate in your clunker.

http://www.dateinasia.com/Search.aspx?g=2&af=18&at=35

Is this the one ? Anyways, Its really not cool to make fun of people who are old and still have spirit in them to look for new life and a partner.

I understand your post was sarcastic, but why use other people's profile to make a point and paint them in bad light. It's heartless.

We have among us, lots of mongers who are well past dating age, yet they go on having good time, which in my book is great thing, cos their spirit is alive.

Is it a crime that she is female, old and ugly. While we are at it, why not we kill all those old ugly women, so they dare not soil our "fun" in the philiphines.

Happy New Year!

[Hairy Wonder]

Personally, I think Jackson should remove everyone that gets into a personal pissing contest on these boards! I have seen his notes before about how these boards are meant to be used as a means of sharing information on pussy that all of us are looking to fuck! Not for bitching at each other and throwing stupid insults around. How does any of those comments help anybody find good pussy?
Get over your petty disagreements about what kind of girls people are fucking, the type of clothes somebody is wearing, the type of car they drive, or any other bullshit! We are all here to share our experiences with finding pussy, good or bad! What one man likes may not be to everyone's taste. But who really gives a shit? Grow up!

Get back to mongering!
HW

[Hairy Wonder]

Hehe good job...we should all be so lucky!

Out of curiosity, what kind of things go into a 'bad boy' profile?

Royal Blue,

I hope I am lucky enough to be able to bed down a fair number of the girls I have met online. Although I am not as good at it as some other members here seem to be. And I know from experience, that what these girls tell you online is not always gospel. I had one in General Santos City (GenSan) promise to meet me at my hotel once. She even told me what hotel to stay in. After getting there, she never showed up. When I left the area, and got onto a computer again, I had a message from her asking if I had fucked a girl that I met at the hotel bar. Of course, I denied it (even though I had). But it seems she had been hiding somewhere near the bar watching me for the hour that I waited for her. When the other girl approached and offered to fuck me, I was not about to pass it up. But this pissed off the one that hid for an hour, instead of meeting me at the appointed time. Was it a setup? Maybe. But I got some pussy out of it anyhow. That was the whole purpose of being there!

I'm not sure that my "bad boy" profile is as bad as it should be. But I do try to make it very clear that I am not looking to be any woman's long term boyfriend, or husband. I tried to be as respectful as possible, but still get the idea across that I am going to meet as many women as I can. If my profile doesn't make it clear enough to the girls, I tell them when we start chatting that I am not their "one man for one woman." I don't come right out and say that I want to fuck them. But I hope they get the idea. And some do. The horny woman in Cebu that wants to fuck me silly, and says it's OK with her if I fuck others, began her very first message to me with "You like sex very much, don't you?" I simply replied "Yes!" Just yesterday, I received a message on DIA from an 18 year old that asked "How big is your cock?" I told her it was big enough to make her scream and cum all night! I don't want to exagerate! :D

For your own "bad boy" profile, write whatever you want. Some girls might not like it, and will send you flaming messages about it. But others will appreciate the fact that you are being straight with them. They might even invite you to view them naked on cam, prior to meeting them.

Enjoy!
HW

[Cunning Stunt]

I guess I can’t afford a decent radio but I can afford to stay in 5 star hotels for short time liaisons multiple times and fly first class, own multiple properties in my 20s (not inherited) ..blah, drone, brag

..this is laughable, like a saddo little kid bragging in the playground. Grow up man, nobody here believes anyone would be stupid enough to pay 5 star hotel rates for a ST liaison, certainly with the type of ho-dogs that you normally fuck and so everything you brag about online is just so obviously a bunch of bollocks it is hilarious. But even allowing for the remote possibility that any of it was true, do you think anyone really gives a flying fuck. Just get a life and as HW suggests, restrict your postings to your mongering adventures (if you have any - have you posted anything remotely interesting in the last six months) or other relevant information without trying to bolster your obviously low self esteem by trying to impress a disinterested forum with self obsessed howling at the moon.

[Hairy Wonder]

My post was not directed at Warbucks alone. There are other contributors in this pile of shit!

HW

[Suck Me Dry]

Royal Blue,

I hope I am lucky enough to be able to bed down a fair number of the girls I have met online. Although I am not as good at it as some other members here seem to be. And I know from experience, that what these girls tell you online is not always gospel. I had one in General Santos City (GenSan) promise to meet me at my hotel once. She even told me what hotel to stay in. After getting there, she never showed up. When I left the area, and got onto a computer again, I had a message from her asking if I had fucked a girl that I met at the hotel bar. Of course, I denied it (even though I had). But it seems she had been hiding somewhere near the bar watching me for the hour that I waited for her. When the other girl approached and offered to fuck me, I was not about to pass it up. But this pissed off the one that hid for an hour, instead of meeting me at the appointed time. Was it a setup? Maybe. But I got some pussy out of it anyhow. That was the whole purpose of being there!

I'm not sure that my "bad boy" profile is as bad as it should be. But I do try to make it very clear that I am not looking to be any woman's long term boyfriend, or husband. I tried to be as respectful as possible, but still get the idea across that I am going to meet as many women as I can. If my profile doesn't make it clear enough to the girls, I tell them when we start chatting that I am not their "one man for one woman." I don't come right out and say that I want to fuck them. But I hope they get the idea. And some do. The horny woman in Cebu that wants to fuck me silly, and says it's OK with her if I fuck others, began her very first message to me with "You like sex very much, don't you?" I simply replied "Yes!" Just yesterday, I received a message on DIA from an 18 year old that asked "How big is your cock?" I told her it was big enough to make her scream and cum all night! I don't want to exagerate! :D

For your own "bad boy" profile, write whatever you want. Some girls might not like it, and will send you flaming messages about it. But others will appreciate the fact that you are being straight with them. They might even invite you to view them naked on cam, prior to meeting them.

Enjoy!
HWHi HW,

I took your advice & changed to a bad boy profile, but haven't had much reponse.

I didn't post my photo, did you?

I really them I love sex & having fun.

Any more tips buddy?

Cheers

[Hairy Wonder]

Hi HW,

I took your advice & changed to a bad boy profile, but haven't had much reponse.

I didn't post my photo, did you?

I really them I love sex & having fun.

Any more tips buddy?

Cheers

SMD,

I didn't post my photo at first, because I didn't want any old ex-gf to get on there and start flaming me. But after a while (and very few hits) I did put one up. I used my built in web cam, and got very close up so only my face shows. It looks pretty damn funny, I think. But I get a lot of compliments from the girls (I'm sure they would compliment anyone they thought would support them). After posting the photo, the hits came in more frequently. And, of course, I have been doing plenty of clicking on the "show interest" button for the babes that look good in their photos. If I really like their look and what they write in their profile (I always read them to make sure it's not a ladyboy) I will leave a message for them. Showing interest does not guarantee a response. In the days around Christmas and New Years, I have been busy replying to about 50 messages a day!

Be patient with it. Post a photo if you want. You will start getting the hits.

I also use Tagged.com, where I have an even more "bad boy" type of profile. On it I have not posted any of my own photos. But the profile pic is from an advertisement for men's mesh briefs, in which the dick is clearly visible. Many girls love it! Some have sent me flames about how disgusted they are by it. And I constantly have to reject gays that want to be added to my "friends" list. But that profile leaves no doubt that I want women for sex. I have about 500 "friends" from around the world on there. And many of them are from PI. Several others are from Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, and so on. I think I could have fun all throughout Asia, if I had enough time and money to travel to each.

Many on DateInAsia.com will not read the profile at all. They simply click on the photo and send a message. Almost every "personal" question the girls have asked me (e.g. "How old are you?" "Are you married?" and so on) could have been answered by simply reading my profile. And that is what I normally tell them when asked. Most of them put in their profiles that they are looking for a husband, or a "life time partner", or something like that. And they all want a guy that will be faithful to them only. Most of them will ask for your Yahoo Messenger (YM) or MSN address so they can chat with you. A few, after adding to my YM, have sent me messages asking me to join their sex cam sites. But I always tell them I'd rather have them show me in person, if I'm going to spend the money.

Enjoy!
HW

[X Man]

Wow, what do they say about the pot calling the kettle black?


..(whining) ... Not for bitching at each other and throwing stupid insults around. ...(whining).... But who really gives a shit? Grow up!

Get back to mongering!
HW

[Suck Me Dry]

SMD,

I didn't post my photo at first, because I didn't want any old ex-gf to get on there and start flaming me. But after a while (and very few hits) I did put one up. I used my built in web cam, and got very close up so only my face shows. It looks pretty damn funny, I think. But I get a lot of compliments from the girls (I'm sure they would compliment anyone they thought would support them). After posting the photo, the hits came in more frequently. And, of course, I have been doing plenty of clicking on the "show interest" button for the babes that look good in their photos. If I really like their look and what they write in their profile (I always read them to make sure it's not a ladyboy) I will leave a message for them. Showing interest does not guarantee a response. In the days around Christmas and New Years, I have been busy replying to about 50 messages a day!

Be patient with it. Post a photo if you want. You will start getting the hits.

I also use Tagged.com, where I have an even more "bad boy" type of profile. On it I have not posted any of my own photos. But the profile pic is from an advertisement for men's mesh briefs, in which the dick is clearly visible. Many girls love it! Some have sent me flames about how disgusted they are by it. And I constantly have to reject gays that want to be added to my "friends" list. But that profile leaves no doubt that I want women for sex. I have about 500 "friends" from around the world on there. And many of them are from PI. Several others are from Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, and so on. I think I could have fun all throughout Asia, if I had enough time and money to travel to each.

Many on DateInAsia.com will not read the profile at all. They simply click on the photo and send a message. Almost every "personal" question the girls have asked me (e.g. "How old are you?" "Are you married?" and so on) could have been answered by simply reading my profile. And that is what I normally tell them when asked. Most of them put in their profiles that they are looking for a husband, or a "life time partner", or something like that. And they all want a guy that will be faithful to them only. Most of them will ask for your Yahoo Messenger (YM) or MSN address so they can chat with you. A few, after adding to my YM, have sent me messages asking me to join their sex cam sites. But I always tell them I'd rather have them show me in person, if I'm going to spend the money.

Enjoy!
HWCheers HW

Yeah I put my photo up & got heaps more responses, met one that from Cebu that loved talking dirty showed her tits 32 y. O great body that lovesbeen fucked even anal whichis a bonus I'm fucking spewing I was in cebu in nov I coulda fucked the guts out of her, I like your story about the supposed pic of you in briefs if it works go with the flow he he.

Anyways thanks buddy cheers SMD

[Hairy Wonder]

Wow, what do they say about the pot calling the kettle black?

Damn X!

I didn't realize I had stepped on your toes! Sorry if the truth hurts. Your reports are actually some of the better ones I have seen on here. Your choice of girls are not always the same ones I would choose, but to each his own!

And for the record, go back and look at the entire post that you excerpted your quotes from. I don't recall doing any whining in it. I was simply pointing out that I feel most mongers on here would rather see information on where to find pussy, decent hotels, eating establishments, and so on. If that's what you consider to be whining, then excuse me!

HW

[FreebieFan]

. Howling at the moon.And the score was: The White Rose forever. LOL

[FreebieFan]

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We have among us, lots of mongers who are well past dating age, yet they go on having good time, which in my book is great thing, cos their spirit is alive.

"fun" in the philiphines.I checked all over my body and can't find a " best before " date.

I think as guys we have no expiry date.

PS. Its spelt Philippines.

[Cunning Stunt]

And the score was: The White Rose forever. LOL

Twat;). And the hurt was just beginning to get better.

Thing is, I used to be white when I was a tyke, so I am secretly a little bit chuffed for them. But it still rankled.

[Jambo]

I am meeting a lot of girls in Cherry Blossoms who have been fudging their age.

I ask one sweet thing (her profile says 19yo). "how old are you sweetie?"

"I'm 17yo, my birthday is 11 March.." she sez.

"May I know what year?" I ask.

"Its 1993, I'm going on 17" the sweetheart replies. lol

Well its ok, just kind of put her back on the shelf, she'll keep for another year or so. Something to get back to later...better a girl rising to 19yo than one at 24yo and past the sell-by date haha

Its a shame they don't have a "hardship clause" like they do for the NFL. Tough waiting 18 long years to get some return on investment.

[X Man]

Telling people to "grow up" is insulting. Would you at least agree to that?

How do you hope to stop a flame war by adding a flame? (Rhetorical question - no need to answer).

I'll humbly retract the "whining" comments. I was exagerrating.

And I'm glad you and most others don't like the petite, skinny chicks. Just more tight pussy for me. X



Damn X!

I didn't realize I had stepped on your toes! Sorry if the truth hurts. Your reports are actually some of the better ones I have seen on here. Your choice of girls are not always the same ones I would choose, but to each his own!

And for the record, go back and look at the entire post that you excerpted your quotes from. I don't recall doing any whining in it. I was simply pointing out that I feel most mongers on here would rather see information on where to find pussy, decent hotels, eating establishments, and so on. If that's what you consider to be whining, then excuse me!

HW

[X Man]

brendalyn_lovergirl

No phone nor cell no.

I usually write these ones off immediately just because it is so hard to arrange a meeting. But who knows, maybe the effort pays off. What have others experienced?

X

[GregLondon]

It can be a pain to arrnage a meet up - best option is just to get her to come to your hotel. Girls with no phones arre generally new on the scene and can sometimes be very keen to get the funds to buy a phone LOL

brendalyn_lovergirl

No phone nor cell no.

I usually write these ones off immediately just because it is so hard to arrange a meeting. But who knows, maybe the effort pays off. What have others experienced?

X

[X Man]

"a lot"????

I have a lot of enemies on this list simply for arguing details and facts, but I can't help but ask....are you referring to one (your example) or a lot - which would be how many?

And if you use DIA also, which would you think is better quality?

X


I am meeting a lot of girls in Cherry Blossoms who have been fudging their age.

I ask one sweet thing (her profile says 19yo). "how old are you sweetie?"

"I'm 17yo, my birthday is 11 March.." she sez.

"May I know what year?" I ask.

"Its 1993, I'm going on 17" the sweetheart replies. lol

Well its ok, just kind of put her back on the shelf, she'll keep for another year or so. Something to get back to later...better a girl rising to 19yo than one at 24yo and past the sell-by date haha

Its a shame they don't have a "hardship clause" like they do for the NFL. Tough waiting 18 long years to get some return on investment.

[X Man]

GL, would appreciate a bit of elaboration. Can you give us locations, details? Did she show up at the appointed time -- or day!?

I am so sick and tired of the text back and forth with very little meaningful communication. Most are late or very late and most can't communicate anything in a text. "I'm coming".....may mean they just started getting dressed as far as I can tell.

A text like "where are u" would seem to indicate that they are in the prearranged meeting place and looking for you, but actually they are just checking to see if you are in the same city and maybe they should make an effort to go the the meeting point.

Oh, and lets not forget my favorite aggravation of all. After sending two dozen mindless, meaningless texts, she no longer has load / battery when it is meeting time.

Okay, rant finished. Shoot meself in the head. X


It can be a pain to arrnage a meet up - best option is just to get her to come to your hotel. Girls with no phones arre generally new on the scene and can sometimes be very keen to get the funds to buy a phone LOL

[Jambo]

"a lot"???? and if you use dia also, which would you think is better quality? x
i believe about 5-6 in the past 2 months admitted to being ****. i suspect if i were to check the id others that say they are 18yo it would be more. (have not hooked up with any of these).

i believe girls in cherry blossoms are more sincere, but i really don't use dia yet. i've still got a paid subscription with cb and am collecting plenty of numbers. of course as you know, a "sincere" girl is less likely to put out on a first date, which may be your angle. if the dia girls are more, um mercenary, it may fit your goals better. i like that in cb they have more and larger photos, better to asses their tits and asses.

i make it clear that i am looking for a lt gf (i am), but not marriage. most are ok with that. the real lookers tend to blow me off, but once i am in country i will have another go at them. but i am really not interested in getting jerked off (again) so i concentrate my efforts on the pleasant looking and out of work/need money for school crowd.

details? lets see i've go a decent prospects list of 74 pi-wide. 18 in manila area alone. 8 in cebu. most in mindanao. if i would look at girls older than 25yo i could get more/better. but i really don't want a live-in that old (and desparate).

here's a good one. looks like her aunt wrote the listing. it reads like a thoroughbred horse sale catalog:


slim small girl. 5 feet tall, weigh 75 pounds, breast 28d, waist 22 inches, hips 28 inches, good strong teeth with nice smile, chocolate skin color, long shoulder length hair, no kids, never worked in bar, live with aunt and her american husband in xxx.
don't any horndogs pm me for her info. do your own homework!

[X Man]

jambo, thanks for that, you've made my day!

you better meet up with her quick, 'cause there is likely to be a queue if you wait too long. on second thought, she looks a bit ****. just give me her reference no. and i will report her to cb monitors to save you the trouble.

as for dateinasia vs. cherry blossom, i've had similar success rates and in both found a real gem. nevertheless, i think next trip i will go back to cb.

does cb still have a rule that you cannot provide contact info on the first mail? a year ago they also prohibited gals from unilaterally offerring their contact info -- which meant some gals wouldn't give contact info even if asked. i found cb rules bothersome, but that may be why you get some better quality gals.

thanks again, x

oh, and i disagree with you on one point. it was the american uncle who wrote that ad!

[Jambo]

jyou better meet up with her quick, 'cause there is likely to be a queue if you wait too long. on second thought, she looks a bit ****. just give me her reference no. and i will report her to cb monitors to save you the trouble.

does cb still have a rule that you cannot provide contact info on the first mail? a year ago they also prohibited gals from unilaterally offerring their contact info -- which meant some gals wouldn't give contact info even if asked. i found cb rules bothersome, but that may be why you get some better quality gals.
no way i am going to mess with that girl. she is going to be way spoiled, and anyway she has that american relative who will make trouble if i shag her and split. all the info you need to find her is right in front of your eyes. anyone who can't figure it out does not deserve a nice filly like that haha.

cb does discourage providing contact info on 1st msg. i believe fh does as well. also they keep the girls from posting email addresses in their bios to encourage mongers to subscribe.

i have 3 pre-written messages ready in cb, and i can punch them out in reply to girls. the 2nd msg has my yahoo id, and works well for me. its a good idea to hold off on passing your yahoo id right away. for example, here is one reply i got in cb from a girl:


hilo hon thnx for viewing me hon how r u now hon see this is a girl i am not going to reply to. good looker though...hmm maybe i can just keep her mouth full of my man meat...

[GregLondon]

First if at all possible I get the girl to meet me at my hotel because you are absolutely right that these girls are always late. If you are at your hotel that's not such a big deal as you can just watch TV/play on the internet etc until she shows up. Many girls of course prefer to meet in a mall, in case you are a monster but most will agree to meet in your hotel lobby.

Quite often I will have to agree to pay the cab fare (usually under 60p when they arrive.) If a girl doesn't have a phone then you will probably be chatting online through YM. Just persuade her to come round to meet you at your hotel and promise to pay the cab/jeep fare.



GL, would appreciate a bit of elaboration. Can you give us locations, details? Did she show up at the appointed time -- or day!?

I am so sick and tired of the text back and forth with very little meaningful communication. Most are late or very late and most can't communicate anything in a text. "I'm coming".....may mean they just started getting dressed as far as I can tell.

A text like "where are u" would seem to indicate that they are in the prearranged meeting place and looking for you, but actually they are just checking to see if you are in the same city and maybe they should make an effort to go the the meeting point.

Oh, and lets not forget my favorite aggravation of all. After sending two dozen mindless, meaningless texts, she no longer has load / battery when it is meeting time.

Okay, rant finished. Shoot meself in the head. X

[GregLondon]

I would say that 80% of the girls on CB and PH also have profiles on DIA. CB and PH being pay sites have more pics and functionality. DIA being free has 10 x the numbers of members. For the girls they are all de facto free as they typically just wait for guys to respond to their profiles. From the girl's perspectives CB and PH tend to have more "serious " guys because these guys have paid something to join and are therefore probably really planning a trip whereas many many guys on DIA are just sitting in Kansas feeling lonely but probably don't even have a passport.





"a lot"????

I have a lot of enemies on this list simply for arguing details and facts, but I can't help but ask....are you referring to one (your example) or a lot - which would be how many?

And if you use DIA also, which would you think is better quality?

X

[X Man]

GL, thanks for the response. It was interesting to hear your ideas. Although, I agree with some, I've looked at other from a completely different perspective.

-- 80% -- Has anyone else noticed such a correlation? I've only used CB and DIA, and only had one woman on DIA said she remembered me from CB. I save a lot of pictures of those I find desirable...and I rarely find matches between websites.

(When GL writes PH, I assume he means FH (Filipinaheart)). I've never subscribed to FH. I have subscribed to CH for short periods immediately prior to a trip.

-- girl's perspective -- this is where we looked at things differently GL. I was surprised at Cherry Blossom because women often didn't realize that the men paid money. I suppose the smarter ones could figure it out soon enough. I always assumed the better quality at CB was because of the vetting process.

-- lonely Kansas boys -- GL, we all appreciate your research into the men's section of DIA.

X





I would say that 80% of the girls on CB and PH also have profiles on DIA. CB and PH being pay sites have more pics and functionality. DIA being free has 10 x the numbers of members. For the girls they are all de facto free as they typically just wait for guys to respond to their profiles. From the girl's perspectives CB and PH tend to have more "serious " guys because these guys have paid something to join and are therefore probably really planning a trip whereas many many guys on DIA are just sitting in Kansas feeling lonely but probably don't even have a passport.

[Gangles]

There have been a few posts recently about the process of meeting up with filipinas, and lots of texts to go with it.

I have a somewhat different perspective.

Most filipinos navigate in very different ways that we do. I have been in the situation where I gave what I thought were perfecr directions to our SOGO hotel. But she ended up at a very different place. Took 45 minutes for her to get 3 blocks to me.

Secondly, they are probably very nervous, and use the texts for reassurance. How many women their age in your country would do the same - never met you, from a different country, go to meet you at your hotel? Very few, if any.

And they tend to be pretty young, and inexperienced, and often look to lots of texts as a means of reassurance. And to maintain some kind of intimacy.

And their English is often not good, so their texts are often pretty basic.

But be kind, patient, and it pays off in spades.

If the girl wants to meet in a neutral place like a mall, I prefer to choose somewhere that I can get a coffee and watch the passing crowd, and read a book as a way to pass time while I am waiting for her.

Good luck.

[Member #4643]

I have been to Manila once, and had a great time. Sex with pros, non-pros and semi pros is easier to procure in Manila than virtually any other place I have been.

I tried DIA last year, and got lots of responses, but when I got to Makati, most of the girls refused to come to my hotel (of course, I was very upfront, and told them I wanted sex not marriage).

Now I am going back, and would like to go the DIA route again. I forgot how the DIA thing worked. I simply cannot tell which, if any, of the DIA girls are likely to have sex with me. I am hoping someone with more experience with DIA can tell me how to distinguish the DIA girls who are willing to put out on the first date, and the ones who really want someone to love them forever. I guess I will not be so upfront about simply wanting a one night stand this time!

Does anyone have a strategy for success in DIA? Thanks F

[Jambo]

how to distinguish the DIA girls who are willing to put out on the first date, and the ones who really want someone to love them forever.
I would suggest if you see the keywords: "not here to play games", "lifetime partner", "husband" you would be spinning your wheels of you want a quick shag.

If you see someting like, "open minded", "looking for friends", you may have a good chance.

If she uses the words, "I'm sexy" i tend to be wary, but who knows?

Certianly in chat I tell them I am not interested in marriage. If you do that you may be turning off some opportunities, but its kinid of unfair to directly lead a girl on by suggesting you are looking for a wife (not saying you are).

Something I have done. Kind of bold, but after chatting for some time, I go out and tell them, "you know if I meet you and I like you, I will want to take you to bed". Maybe soften it with, "because you're so pretty I don't think I could help myself". Try that see how it goes over...

[GregLondon]

I think the first point is to be completely open and up front in your profile as to what you are looking for - without being crude. Eg I'm coming to Manila on x for y days. I'm hoping to meet some cute, sexy slim girls aged 18-23. You need to be open minded , passionate and willing to stay at my hotel overnight if we get along well etc.

Unless u are devilishly handsome or looking for an age gap under say 15 years, then I think realistically any girl contemplating short term sex with you will want some financial compensation, so you might put something along the lines of "of course I will be happy to cover all your expenses."

Unfortunately even being this specific will hook some "good girls" who dont read the ad, so you ask for their YM, and then have a chat and ask them if they read your ad and say you are looking for an sexy open minded girl wiling to stay with you at your hotel.

Many girls will then ask you to send money, to which you say, never send money before meeting a girl, though if we have a good time together happy to help with your bills etc.
If you are looking for something unusual such as anal or threesomes you can mention it at that time, but prob do so tentatively as 80% wont be receptive.

You then need to weed out the girls only doing scams/webcams. within a few days you should have a list of hot prospects.

I tend not to pay much heed to what the girl has said in her profile, Most girls make the web site looking for their husband and some short time remunerated fun is only a secondary goal. They believe that if they indicate they are up for short term then this will put off the serious God fearing Good guys. Of course some really are not up for short term fun, but for many playing games - means pretending you are looking for a wife when really you are just after free sex.

90% of the girls on DIA are perpetually short of cash and 1000P represents 4-5 days pay for say a shop girl so as long as she is not made to feel like a hooker, many will be interested to play for that.




I have been to Manila once, and had a great time. Sex with pros, non-pros and semi pros is easier to procure in Manila than virtually any other place I have been.

I tried DIA last year, and got lots of responses, but when I got to Makati, most of the girls refused to come to my hotel (of course, I was very upfront, and told them I wanted sex not marriage).

Now I am going back, and would like to go the DIA route again. I forgot how the DIA thing worked. I simply cannot tell which, if any, of the DIA girls are likely to have sex with me. I am hoping someone with more experience with DIA can tell me how to distinguish the DIA girls who are willing to put out on the first date, and the ones who really want someone to love them forever. I guess I will not be so upfront about simply wanting a one night stand this time!

Does anyone have a strategy for success in DIA? Thanks F

[GregLondon]

GL, thanks for the response. It was interesting to hear your ideas. Although, I agree with some, I've looked at other from a completely different perspective.

-- 80% -- Has anyone else noticed such a correlation? I've only used CB and DIA, and only had one woman on DIA said she remembered me from CB. I save a lot of pictures of those I find desirable...and I rarely find matches between websites.

(When GL writes PH, I assume he means FH (Filipinaheart)). I've never subscribed to FH. I have subscribed to CH for short periods immediately prior to a trip.

-- girl's perspective -- this is where we looked at things differently GL. I was surprised at Cherry Blossom because women often didn't realize that the men paid money. I suppose the smarter ones could figure it out soon enough. I always assumed the better quality at CB was because of the vetting process.

-- lonely Kansas boys -- GL, we all appreciate your research into the men's section of DIA.

X

yes Sorry I meant Fillipina Heart.

re cross over - First remember DIA is the dominant site. I have helped a couple of Philly girl friends write their ads. As an idea the DIA ad got about 500 responses (cute girl, nice pic and well written - and crucially honest and straight forward ad) in 2 days, CB and PH got around 30 each in same time frame. Of those responses it was pretty easy to ignore or delete around 90% - guys with no real plans to visit or outside her target group etc.

the main reason that most guys don't join all three is that CB and PH cost money, this is not relevant for girls. Also the vast majority of girls will know other girlfriends or relatives on the sites so will exchange notes and generally be aware of the other sites.

Many of the girls like to put different user names and photos on their different sites . What quite often happens is that one guy gets serious with the girl and he will try and persuade her to close down her dating site or tell him her password so that he can get a free run at her. Often she will not know for sure that this guy will actually turn up or if he does that he hasn't got 10 other girls to see. So it's especially important to her that he doesn't also get her CB and PH sites as well and close those too.

[Jambo]

Looks like Cherry Blossoms (Blossoms.com) got hacked. Login gets re-directed to some Easter Euro looking page. Safest to use Firefox with the NoScript plug-in, and disallow scripts from them until they get it fixed.

Attached screen cap is from blossoms.com/login.php

Mmm now its gone....

[Cuba Tourist]

"I think the first point is to be completely open and up front in your profile as to what you are looking for - without being crude."

When I was in Cebu, I found it unnecessary to be so direct. A high percentage of the women I met understood the game and are quite happy to comply. When one was reluctant, she brought me a friend within about 15 minutes. Now I am in Davao, and I am finding that most of the women are either unaware or unwilling.

As a result, I am sending out a new batch of messages right now that is much more direct. I'm asking for an adventurous and sensuous woman. I may also put in something about them being willing to stay with me if we get along and possibly travel together. The problem is that I've are ready been here five days and time is running out. Even though I had 12 days originally, that's not all that much unless you know how to work the system right from the get-go.

[GregLondon]

"I think the first point is to be completely open and up front in your profile as to what you are looking for - without being crude."

When I was in Cebu, I found it unnecessary to be so direct. A high percentage of the women I met understood the game and are quite happy to comply. When one was reluctant, she brought me a friend within about 15 minutes. Now I am in Davao, and I am finding that most of the women are either unaware or unwilling.

As a result, I am sending out a new batch of messages right now that is much more direct. I'm asking for an adventurous and sensuous woman. I may also put in something about them being willing to stay with me if we get along and possibly travel together. The problem is that I've are ready been here five days and time is running out. Even though I had 12 days originally, that's not all that much unless you know how to work the system right from the get-go.

Yes I think for the guys just comming for a short trip, the key is to try and avoid wasting a half day or few hours chasing a girl whose idea of being sexy and open minded is to lose her virginity on her wedding night. That's why I suggest the direct approach, in more open minded cities such as Cebu Manila nd Angeles the numnbers are such that you will prob be OK with a less direct approach, but if one goes to places like Dumaguete Cagayan, Puerto princesa you may need to be more systematic about winnowing out the conservatives. Of course if you are living in the country you can afford to be more relaxed and subtle if you want and I'm sure you can seduce some of the apparently conservative ones too.

if you find yourself in cuba Touists situation of needing to generate contactys quickly, try Tagged as well as DIA. 30 mins on tagged should get you half a dozen phone numbers/YM ids

[Cuba Tourist]

Thanks Greg!

Woman just now says in profile she is sexy and open but wants to bring mother and grandmother!!!!

[Chocha Monger]

Thanks Greg!

Woman just now says in profile she is sexy and open but wants to bring mother and grandmother!!!!
That's going to be one kinky ass session. You're going to bang 3 generations in one go! I can see it now... Granny on the toothless BJ, mother the anal pro and the sexy daughter as the apprentice. :D

[Cuba Tourist]

I asked redfoxgurl to meet me and she wrote back:

nahhh sorry maybe just look another gurl out there...i dont go out with guys easly..god bless


and then to explain:

im shy..im not liberated im scared i dont know u that much ..sorry

maybe someone else can successfully get her into bed.

[GregLondon]

Originally Posted by Cuba Tourist
Thanks Greg!

Woman just now says in profile she is sexy and open but wants to bring mother and grandmother!!!!


if you PM me with your email i will send you a couple of YMs or tel nos from my "Davao and up for it" list

Only girls under 25 without baby, look cute and say willing to stay overnight.

GL

[Member #4491]

GL is spot on in his analysis. Davao girls are more provincial and require another approach and even much more time and work. With many of the Davaoenias it is normally more a project over months or weeks than days to get by the "sniffing phase" as KongKing once described.

Cuba, why don't you get yourself away from the computer and try a mall? Walk up to someone, smile and start to talk to them. Ask them to join you to some beach. I did this with success several times.

I really need to try Cebu for a week or two some time. The few Cebuanas I have on my YM are all stunners and up for game in a whole different way than the somewhat more conservative Davao girls. Hell, even the Cebu ladyboy I accidentally added is hot. :-)

Just got buzzed this very sec by a sweet 20 year old girl from Surigao. We are definitely over the sniffing phase. Next up is sniffing her panties instead.

Take care!

Barba

[Rampana]

Looks like Cherry Blossoms (Blossoms.com) got hacked. Login gets re-directed to some Easter Euro looking page. Safest to use Firefox with the NoScript plug-in, and disallow scripts from them until they get it fixed.

Attached screen cap is from blossoms.com/login.php

Mmm now its gone....This looks like BULGARIAN language

[FreebieFan]

Take a moment to check out Candy Barr from Makati on DIA.

Its hilarious.

[Cunning Stunt]

Take a moment to check out Candy Barr from Makati on DIA.

Its hilarious.

Your right! Very naughty too - just had to send her a massage:D. I bet her box will be awash.

Did you note her occupation? Sounds like X's perfect woman;). Only kiddin' X.

[GregLondon]

Your right! Very naughty too - just had to send her a massage:D. I bet her box will be awash.

Did you note her occupation? Sounds like X's perfect woman;). Only kiddin' X.


30% chance a western guy 50% chance a lady boy 205 chance a phil girl in my view

[X Man]

At Date in Asia, and other friend finder sites, you can do a search by area. You'll turn up plenty of prospects by searching for areas (or other names of places) immediately adjacent to the city you are planning to visit.

Angeles: Pampanga
Manila: Bulacan, (see Metro Manila map)

Cebu: Talisay, Mandaue, lapu, consolation, Toledo

Davao: Toril, Bunawan

Dumaguete: Valencia

the list is endless, so look at maps to get ideas. The gals who live in these outlying areas are likely to be less net savvy -- which may be good or bad depending on your circumstances. X

[Cuba Tourist]

Karen (girl I met but I liked her friend): u like chin2?

Karen: if you like her ill give to you her number.

Me: She rejected me pretty conclusively. I really liked her but oh well...

Karen: i think you just misunderstood things maybe if you took things slowly maybe she might like you.you scared her when you started to touch honestly she''s not use to it.

[Rampana]

Take a moment to check out Candy Barr from Makati on DIA.

Its hilarious.that's very obviously VERY FAKE!

I even wouldn't answer to this.

Most probably a westerner making fun of us fellow mongerers

[Jambo]

by searching for areas (or other names of places) immediately adjacent to the city you are planning to visit.
Thats a good tip X-man. A lot of girls don't think that if they live anywhere near Manila, they should put "Manila". And a lot of guys don't think to look for "Caloocan" (or whatever). At least Filipina Heart is smart you can search by Province, and get all in one.

[FreebieFan]

At Date in Asia, and other friend finder sites, you can do a search by area. You'll turn up plenty of prospects by searching for areas (or other names of places) immediately adjacent to the city you are planning to visit.

Angeles: Pampanga
Manila: Bulacan, (see Metro Manila map)

Cebu: Talisay, Mandaue, lapu, consolation, Toledo

Davao: Toril, Bunawan

Dumaguete: Valencia Hi X,

Whilst I agree with the methodology suggested here, using Bulacan as an example of close to Manila is stretching it. Its a loooooooong way from Manila on a bad traffic day.

I'd go with Taguig, Pasay, Pasig, Alabang, Las Pinas, Sucat etc. Much easier to get the ladies to come to you from there.

[Cunning Stunt]

Most probably a westerner making fun of us fellow mongerers

Could be but I would have found a better looking girl and a sexier photo.

Ladyboy - don't think so but could be wrong.

Maybe just a Burgos Street girl looking to snag a sucker.

She has probably had a lot of interest since yesterday as she has added this to her profile....EMAIL ME SOME INTERESTING PICTURES YOU WILL GET MY ATENSION QUIKER NO ASIANS. NO PIC NO REPLY 09297862454

[X Man]

Good point. Nevertheless, I did have a Bulacan gal come to meet me in Ermita. Last I heard she was working in the mall in AC. In fact, considering Manila traffic it might make more sense to get a bulacan gal to meet you in AC. X


Hi X,

Whilst I agree with the methodology suggested here, using Bulacan as an example of close to Manila is stretching it. Its a loooooooong way from Manila on a bad traffic day.

I'd go with Taguig, Pasay, Pasig, Alabang, Las Pinas, Sucat etc. Much easier to get the ladies to come to you from there.

[Big Larry]

Could be but I would have found a better looking girl and a sexier photo.

Ladyboy - don't think so but could be wrong.

Maybe just a Burgos Street girl looking to snag a sucker.

She has probably had a lot of interest since yesterday as she has added this to her profile....EMAIL ME SOME INTERESTING PICTURES YOU WILL GET MY ATENSION QUIKER NO ASIANS. NO PIC NO REPLY 09297862454Her pic does not look like a LB but many LBs/gays "borrow" pics of their female friends and ai Think a LB/gay is more likely to be interested to collect naughty pics of western guys than a girl.

[Cunning Stunt]

Whilst I agree with the methodology suggested here, using Bulacan as an example of close to Manila is stretching it. Its a loooooooong way from Manila on a bad traffic day.


I used to regularly knob a girl who lived in Bulacan. We used to meet up in the Trinoma Mall which is right opposite the North Ave last stop on the MRT. Easy for both her and me to get to. And there is a splendidly situated Sogo Hotel right by the side on North Ave Station.

[X Man]

Well there you go!

You might as well be speaking Greek since I've never used the MRT. I've often thought it might be fun to try the outlying malls for some hunting. Trinoma?

Many "good" gals think that Ermita is Dangerous.

X

I used to regularly knob a girl who lived in Bulacan. We used to meet up in the Trinoma Mall which is right opposite the North Ave last stop on the MRT. Easy for both her and me to get to. And there is a splendidly situated Sogo Hotel right by the side on North Ave Station.

[Questor 55]

There have been numerous queries regarding various dating sites and their potential 'benefits'. DIA, or Dating In Asia, is free, and therefore has the largest pool of potential talent. Screening is not in effect on this site, except for the most blatant of 'come-ons'.

The old saw that "If it seems too good to be true, it isn't true. ", definitely should be remembered if you go searching on DIA. Chances are that the stunning Babe displaying lots of cleavage is either a ladyboy or a scammer, or both. Also keep in mind the time zone differences. If it is past midnight in the Philippines, who do you expect to be online and why are they there? Few girls can afford a computer, so most are in seedy 'internet cafes, jammed into tight little cubicles with their like-minded friends. If you agree to go on cam and get into the raunchy stuff, then expect that a cluster of giggling girls will be enjoying the show at your expense.

Most of the 'After Midnight ' girls are admirable entreprenuers, working diligently and creatively, throughout the night, at making money in a harsh environment.

So, 'Cheers' to them and cautions to you.

[Jambo]

Erika:
if you dont mind,wat happen y u hve been dvorced??
my school,well,im kinda bz..coz its r exam alredy & my mom doesnt hve mney 2 pay 4 my tuition coz d allotment of my father dat he send ddnt rcve 8 yet.& r feasibilty study knda makes my head really,really wnts 2 xplode!hehe..we dont knw wat 2 do..r teacher,a lot of demands!i knw 8s 4 r gud so dat wen we defend,8s ok 2 luk r presentation..& ders a lot of money works n r skul..haizt!
Dear Erika, please tell your mom and dad to spend their money on something else. The college thing isn't working...

Ayessa:
hilo hon how r u now i miss u hon when we chat u hon loveu hon
Dear Ayessa. You're my kind of girl. I can't wait to get there and get my hands on your pretty little head.

[Rampana]

The old saw that "If it seems too good to be true, it isn't true. ", definitely should be remembered if you go searching on DIA. Wisely spoken words of wisdom I can confirm about with DIA contacts.

[X Man]

Confirm what? Please give us your report!


Wisely spoken words of wisdom I can confirm about with DIA contacts.

[Member #4643]

Last night (actually, around 5 pm Manila time), I chose 10 girls from DIA to talk with. They were chosen because they were young and pretty, were online at the time I wrote them, and live in Manila.

My profile says I am not looking for a wife, but for a lover.

I told tham I was writing from my hotel in Makati. I basically asked them all the same question: "Will you come over to my hotel in Makati right now for a nice dinner and then spend the night with me?" I gave them a short intro about being a nice guy and I added a line suggesting they could be paid for their time, but not overtly offering cash ("I am a generous man, and can make this worth your time").

The response was 2 girls said I am too old; of course, I am 55 and they are 25, so I sort of understand their point of view!

2 girls: flat out said I was a jerk, because they are not that type of woman.

2 girls said they would like to meet me, and sent me numbers to SMS. One of these two said she charged $300 USA for LT but she was worth it, because she swallows and guys love her (I kid you not- she swallows!!!). She was really very pretty, but of course the photo might not be her.

1 girl said she wanted to meet me, but was not certain what I meant about making it worth her time, as she is not interested in money. When I explained to her that I did not want her to feel that I expected her to spend time with me just out of the goodness of her heart, but that I left matters of compensation open to the woman, she sent me back her SMS and suggested we get to know each other (probably planning to sleep with me on the second date).

3 girls have not yet replied.

My conclusion is that it is not really necessary to put much time into DIA before you come to the Philippines. You can probably line up a few the night before you leave the USA.

[GregLondon]

I would say that if you start hitting DIA about a week before u plan to come that's about right. it would be difficult to keep up a meaningful dialog for me than a few days, the sensible thing is just to gather numbers and yahoo IDs and say that you will call them when you get thgere. of course many guys like to chat on DIA well before then but primarily for the fun of it rather than it being a sensible use of time



Last night (actually, around 5 pm Manila time), I chose 10 girls from DIA to talk with. They were chosen because they were young and pretty, were online at the time I wrote them, and live in Manila.

My profile says I am not looking for a wife, but for a lover.

I told tham I was writing from my hotel in Makati. I basically asked them all the same question: "Will you come over to my hotel in Makati right now for a nice dinner and then spend the night with me?" I gave them a short intro about being a nice guy and I added a line suggesting they could be paid for their time, but not overtly offering cash ("I am a generous man, and can make this worth your time").

The response was 2 girls said I am too old; of course, I am 55 and they are 25, so I sort of understand their point of view!

2 girls: flat out said I was a jerk, because they are not that type of woman.

2 girls said they would like to meet me, and sent me numbers to SMS. One of these two said she charged $300 USA for LT but she was worth it, because she swallows and guys love her (I kid you not- she swallows!!!). She was really very pretty, but of course the photo might not be her.

1 girl said she wanted to meet me, but was not certain what I meant about making it worth her time, as she is not interested in money. When I explained to her that I did not want her to feel that I expected her to spend time with me just out of the goodness of her heart, but that I left matters of compensation open to the woman, she sent me back her SMS and suggested we get to know each other (probably planning to sleep with me on the second date).

3 girls have not yet replied.

My conclusion is that it is not really necessary to put much time into DIA before you come to the Philippines. You can probably line up a few the night before you leave the USA.

[Questor 55]

I would say that if you start hitting DIA about a week before you plan to come that's about right. It would be difficult to keep up a meaningful dialog for me than a few days, the sensible thing is just to gather numbers and yahoo IDs and say that you will call them when you get thgere. Of course many guys like to chat on DIA well before then but primarily for the fun of it rather than it being a sensible use of timeI've used both approaches. The long term cultivation of DIA girls works best if you are looking for more than "Wham, bam, thank you, Mam! "

A potential beach resort partner requires some wooing. If you are looking for a 'quickie', then you can leave it until you arrive. This works reasonably well in the big cities, where the girls are more likely to be 'liberated'. However, in the rest of the country, girls are most likely to be quite conservative, and far less likely to respond positively to the 'right now' approach.

[FreebieFan]

Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.

Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.

Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.

Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.

She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.

I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.

[Wicked Roger]

Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.

Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.

Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.

Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.

She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.

I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.

FF

I admire (but am not jealous) of your journeys to the dark side, you clearly have a 'kink' I do not and I have plenty of them.....

She sound as if she has it all planned in her head when really you just want naked and horny. But please share the experience as she may hide or run at the sight of a naked white man in heat :D so make sure you bring some lube just in case she cant get wet the normal route..

At least when you are shagging her I am safe in knowing there is one more younger one for me....:)

Hopefully this year we will meet up and swap stories and girls ...as long as she is under 22 years old :)

[Escort Fan]

I have recently created a profile on DIA. As I'm not yet in the phils I haven't really started to talk to girls.

I am a swiss guy in my mid 30's. That's a problem because girls do prefer americans by far and eventually as second choice brits.

I have seen some girls that have been heavily document in the photo threat, notorious WG's. And to be honnest their profile isn't exactly different from the one of girls that are on DIA looking for a husband (and only looking for a husband). Like in poker on DIA I guess you need to identify the "tells", and I just can't interpret them. (ie: a girl in bra on her pic, does that mean she's a WG? Girls that constantly refer to "godfearing" and who says she doesn't like "players" does that mean it's a no go and shouldn't even try?)

I don't want to be an ass and break any heart (and certainly not take advantage of a freebie) or simply find myself in a difficult position. I want to meet open minded girls, that are willing to have fun today without being sure of what's going to happen tomorrow. I don't want to treat them as prostitute but I want to give them a compensatation because clearly not many of those are from upper middle classes!

I noticed only the ugly girls are messaging me (well at least in my case), then again if the girl filter americans or english, they will never see my profile.

So I guess I have to message the girls I'm interested in.

What's you're suggested (and subtile) way to test the waters and be sure the girl is on the same page. Ie: girls understand my expectations, I understand hers, I treat her nicely nice rooms, nice restaurants, few gifts. I give her a full BFE and she gives me a full GFE.

[FreebieFan]

FF

I admire (but am not jealous) of your journeys to the dark side, you clearly have a 'kink' I do not and I have plenty of them.

She sound as if she has it all planned in her head when really you just want naked and horny. But please share the experience as she may hide or run at the sight of a naked white man in heat. So make sure you bring some lube just in case she can't get wet the normal route.

At least when you are shagging her I am safe in knowing there is one more younger one for me.

Hopefully this year we will meet up and swap stories and girls. As long as she is under 22 years old.Hey WR. Well variety is the spice of whatever. They come in all ages and sizes with me. Happy to take them all on. Luckily there is a 22/24/28/30 and 31 year old on call in case this one is past her sell by date.

As for luB. My pc bag always has lube, the obligatory condoms, the spanking " ruler" always a spare g string etc as a giveaway and a few battery operated toys that seem to delight. No wonder I never take my pc bag home. LOL

[X Man]

An interesting survey Forest -- thanks for that.

I've never tried such an overt approach, but it seems to offer the most bang for your buck. The only problem I see is that you may be attracting only the p4p girls. For me the whole online and / or regular girl attraction is the challenge and the potential gfe.

My approach is that I'll only be in town a few days and I'll pay your taxi fare to the meeting point. I would hope that they can infer it's a short term relationship and I'm generous. I've had about 40% success rate on the first date -- and that includes places outside of Manila and Cebu. (Someone on the Davao thread suggests different strategies are necessary for "provincial" women).

X


Last night (actually, around 5 pm Manila time), I chose 10 girls from DIA to talk with. They were chosen because they were young and pretty, were online at the time I wrote them, and live in Manila.

My profile says I am not looking for a wife, but for a lover.

I told tham I was writing from my hotel in Makati. I basically asked them all the same question: "Will you come over to my hotel in Makati right now for a nice dinner and then spend the night with me?" I gave them a short intro about being a nice guy and I added a line suggesting they could be paid for their time, but not overtly offering cash ("I am a generous man, and can make this worth your time").

The response was 2 girls said I am too old; of course, I am 55 and they are 25, so I sort of understand their point of view!

2 girls: flat out said I was a jerk, because they are not that type of woman.

2 girls said they would like to meet me, and sent me numbers to SMS. One of these two said she charged $300 USA for LT but she was worth it, because she swallows and guys love her (I kid you not- she swallows!!!). She was really very pretty, but of course the photo might not be her.

1 girl said she wanted to meet me, but was not certain what I meant about making it worth her time, as she is not interested in money. When I explained to her that I did not want her to feel that I expected her to spend time with me just out of the goodness of her heart, but that I left matters of compensation open to the woman, she sent me back her SMS and suggested we get to know each other (probably planning to sleep with me on the second date).

3 girls have not yet replied.

My conclusion is that it is not really necessary to put much time into DIA before you come to the Philippines. You can probably line up a few the night before you leave the USA.

[X Man]

If she's that hot to trot with some guy she happened to meet on the Internet, what is the likliehood that she actually hasn't had another man in five years?

This is not a rhetorical question -- I'd really like to hear opinions.

You may have heard Filipinas at 25+ saying they are "old". My own experiences have been great targeting the 27-35 age group. They really do seem to be neglected!

On a recent trip, I thought I was going to a home party with a few people. I was introduced from a Filipina friend who lives outside of the Philippines. Friend tells me to meet up with her sis, and sis invites me over to a "home party". It turns the party is attended only by the 36 year old sis and her colleague -- the colleague soon leaves. I had no interest in the woman, but I couldn't just walk out. I was sweating a bit and she suggested I take off my shirt (I didn't), and later offers to wipe me down with a towel. And finally, it's dangerous to go out this time of the night, you can spend the night here. I was tempted to give her a courtesy fk but was afraid my lack of attraction for her would mean a less than satisfying evening for both of us.

FF, Looking forward to hearing how this one works out. Good luck. X



Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.

Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.

Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.

Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.

She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.

I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.

[FreebieFan]

Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.

Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.

Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.

Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.

She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.

I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.Thought would add to my own post hereas it seems to have attracted some comments and PM's.

I don't think this one is particularly experienced as shes certainly not exactly pc savvy. She didn't know how to direct me to a Tagged site her friend made for her, and when I found it I became her only friend, she has no idea how to send pics, and when I called yesterday (have to check the voice to make sure its not a potential bakla) she asked if it was me, saying she never had any international calls. Anyways, nothing ventured nothing gained.

I've been told several times " you are my fourth" " you are my third". Well now we will try for the " you are my second" LOL.

[FreebieFan]

Got a DIA message today as follows..I quote

"hi!!!hoe are you im looking a goos person as my friend and i think is that you hmm...anyway if your good person?im so very good also higher from you hahaha!!!! "

Guess we wont be pursiing this particular one. !

[Wicked Roger]

Hey WR. Well variety is the spice of whatever. They come in all ages and sizes with me. Happy to take them all on. Luckily there is a 22/24/28/30 and 31 year old on call in case this one is past her sell by date.

As for luB. My pc bag always has lube, the obligatory condoms, the spanking " ruler" always a spare g string etc as a giveaway and a few battery operated toys that seem to delight. No wonder I never take my pc bag home. LOL
LOL

I am also a firm believer in accessorising....some nice bondage stuff (at tiems chosen by the girl froma very naughty web site) is also included in my bag plus some FM heels and otehr clotehs (PVC a favourite). Never been stopped at customs and asked about it but if I am not sure if I should say "for pesonal use" in case am asked to demonstrate :D

See you this year FF

[Sexy Geezer]

G'day, I've been cultivating a few prospects off Tagged for my trip to AC in Feb. On the whole I've been very happy with the responses. I make it clear I'm not husband material and that I am looking for fun, but also that I will treat them with respect. I've been chatting to about 8 on YM. All want to meet but I'm really only interested in about 3 of them. Youngest and biggest tits. It's been interesting though. Two of them came straight out with pleas for money and one even provided her bank account details on her first email. This one on the pretext of not having sufficient funds for her next year of study at nursing school. The other was a classic. In the past fortnight she's lost her job, is being taken to court for non payment of her internet account, has no savings, no money, no friends, no family (she doesn't talk to her brother and sister apparently) and no food to eat. I felt like telling her "sweetheart, your fuck'd, u'd better just kill urself now". I didn't though. I'm much too polite. But who does she think she's fooling. Surely no one would fall for that?

[GregLondon]

G'day, I've been cultivating a few prospects off Tagged for my trip to AC in Feb. On the whole I've been very happy with the responses. I make it clear I'm not husband material and that I am looking for fun, but also that I will treat them with respect. I've been chatting to about 8 on YM. All want to meet but I'm really only interested in about 3 of them. Youngest and biggest tits. It's been interesting though. Two of them came straight out with pleas for money and one even provided her bank account details on her first email. This one on the pretext of not having sufficient funds for her next year of study at nursing school. The other was a classic. In the past fortnight she's lost her job, is being taken to court for non payment of her internet account, has no savings, no money, no friends, no family (she doesn't talk to her brother and sister apparently) and no food to eat. I felt like telling her "sweetheart, your fuck'd, u'd better just kill urself now". I didn't though. I'm much too polite. But who does she think she's fooling. Surely no one would fall for that?

Not everyone is a member of forums like this. LOL Your experience is entirely typical. The scammers fall broadly into several categories.

1 The professionals - more often than not ladyboys - who are typically smarter than the girls who basically see scamming as a full time job - often they will live a nocturnal life dictated by the US - Phils time difference and be on the net 10 hours a day. These guys can make 20-100k pesos a month depending how good they are (contrasting with about 6k a month typical shop job.). Huge range of sob stories varying in sophistication. landslides, cancerous grandmothers, dieing younger brothers, fares to come and meet you at the airport etc the list is endless, but rarely includes, "I really fancy the latest mobile phone". The upper end of the market is probably "pay my nursing fees for a year so that I can qualify as a nurse, get a job in your town repay all your money and suck your dick 3 times a day." guys can be taken for $500-1000 on that one.

2 The pro cam girls - these are girl/ladyboys working for pro cam sites. generally the patter will be along the lines I'd really like to show you everything, you just have to log onto this site and provide a credit card details for verification purposes ........ if you go for this please pin a white card to your chest with the words "sucker" on it.

3 The Amateur cam girls. these are girls who heard how easy it is to make money caming so will promise to show you everything ..once you have zoomed (or Western union) them $25-50. i don't know what proportion of the girls follow through. I guess the tactic should be to send a little at first with the promise of more. The girls probably get ripped off more than the guys with guys promising to pay, getting some sort of show then once they have cum disappearing into cyber space. A couple of "my" girls did this as a sideline whilst hanging out with me and i have to say the guys on the other end got a damm good show for their money. If you are a Mr Lonely in Wyoming or Mr Marrried in Milwawkee spending $25-50 with these girls is probably great value compared with say 5 mins on a US sex chat line speaking to a fat, ugly and bored middle aged woman in the US. These girls are usually up for real life meetings if you are in the Phils and by and large are much more liberated and sexual than their "good girl" counterparts for obvious reasons.

4 The speculative girls. These are girls who by and large are up for a meeting in reality. However once a girl spends a few weeks on the net she quickly realises that 95% of the guys she is talking to and burning valuable pesos chatting to will either never set foot in the Phils or if they do wonder off with the first girl he happens to come across when leaving the airport or has a list of 50 "probably", "maybe" and "only if I'm desperate " targets. From her perspective the chances of anything much coming out of it are sub 2%. In these circumstances it is entirely rational for the girl to try and get some cash in advance either to fund internet time, or pay for a fare to meet you etc. I'm not sure what proportion just disappear and what will show up if you come. by and large this class of girl is desperate to actually meet a foreigner in real life as this is their only hope of a ticket out, so I guess many will show up. however my rule is simply to never send money in advance so i don't know for sure.

greg

[X Man]

You did the right thing.

She's heard about other people making easy money so she's given it a try. If you confront her she might give up, but more likely she'll hone her technique.

There is a lot of talk about the suckers who lose a lot of money to the scammers, but I'd be willing to be that most of those scammers are quite good -- not anything like the lady described by Sxy Gzer.

Just stay polite and move on. Unloading on them may feel good, but it just hardens them.

X



G'day,

SNIP

I felt like telling her "sweetheart, your fuck'd, u'd better just kill urself now". I didn't though. I'm much too polite. But who does she think she's fooling. Surely no one would fall for that?

[Jambo]

Admitting that I have wired funds to girls, as a compensation for their internet expense. Its funny when you ask for their full name to send the funds, and instead of say, Maggie Magsaysay, it's "Michael Magsaysay". haha and I ask that sounds like a guys name, and they say "oh they made a mistake on my birth cert". har har.

Also, repeating a story I related about my fiance/wife. She was chatting up guys while in the US, asking for funds for in one example i know about: to secure a tourist visa to come to the US (and meet them)! Presumably she would have the funds send to her mother. I know she used her mothers name in setting up additional chat profiles.

These days I do send some "load" via Chikka. You can spend as little as $3-6. Mostly I use it to ask them to come into town to chat with me. If its going to aunties phone instead of the girls, its all the same, since I am asking for a little performance. If they start asking for more I cut them off.

But not to be too jaded. After all we are targeting girls who are poor, and they are looking for wealthy men to save them. I have been chatting with a very sexy and smart girl. She had a western BF before and clearly knows the score. She lost her job and moved back with her family in the "province" so only rarely comes online. I send her some load and we txt back and forth from time to time. She doesn't ask for WU funds, and I don't really offer, as I know she's hot and have her on my "A" list already. I know a few girls like that. Can't get the little bit of dough to come online, but are sweet and never ask. Just, "I'm sorry but I don't have enough to come online much". Yah maybe a play, but fine with me. I get tired of chatting. My priorities are: get her YM address, cell phone number, webcam a bit and get some good pics to determine how she looks, asses the tits to chubbiness ratio, save it, and move on.

One thing I look for. If the chat profile name does not match the yahoo email name. Sometimes she's using a nick name, but at times its clearly two different identities. For instance a girls name in the profile, but its a guys name in the Yahoo email. gotcha..

Once I move to the PI, setting up an amateur cam girl room in my place...hmm an idea. Probably get me busted though...haha

[KongKing]

I spent almost a week in Bacolod, and reported in the “Other Areas” forum. Here is my chat-mate experience.

Over 2-3 months prior to my trip I made contact and chatted with 4-5 Filipinas from Bacolod on DateInAsia.com and Cebuanas.com. One chat-mate in particular, Joan, (picture below) was a good learning experience for me! We chatted first on Cebuanas then on Yahoo Messenger, and exchanged emails. The gist over a number of chats went something like this, and skipping the “Hi, Hello, and How are you?” repetitive stuff:
JOAN: So you are from Australia?
KONGKING: Yep
JOAN: I am interested in getting some Australian videos
KONGKING: What kind of videos?
JOAN: Body-building videos
KONGKING: Oh! (surprised that a 21 year old 4’11”, 38kg Filipina is into that kind of thing). For you?
JOAN: No, for my dad, he copies them for local distribution (surely with the owner’s permission!?)
KONGKING: Any particular body-building videos?
JOAN: If you go to this Australian web mail-order site I would like 4 videos (names given). Can you order them for me and mail them to me?
KONGKING: Why don’t you order direct, it’s a mail order site?
JOAN: I don’t have the Australian money
KONGKING: You don’t need Australian money. Philippines pesos would be converted when you on-line purchase
JOAN: I don’t have the pesos
KONGKING: So you want me to buy and mail to you?
JOAN: Yes. I am a loving Filipina and I will make it worthwhile for you. I am a passionate sexy Filipina lady and I can give you all the pleasures you need
KONGKING: Great! I will check that web-site out for you
[followed a few days later by a cam chat full of lovey-dovey stuff and erotic promises if I could get the videos for her]
KONGKING (in an email to her): Joan, you are obviously a good business woman working to help your Dad. I can help you but here are my terms of supply:
1. I will purchase and pay for 1 and up to 3 DVDs by mail order from the Australian web site you specified;
2. I will order within one week of you confirming acceptance of this email;
3. I will deliver personally to you in the Philippines;
4. You say you are a "passionate sexy Filipina lady", and you will give me all the pleasures I need, without restriction;
5. We (just you and I) will meet probably in Dumaguete but maybe in Bacolod (my choice). I will pay for our accommodation food and transport;
6. You will receive one DVD after staying each full 24 hour period you stay with me;
7. I will endeavour to make your time with me enjoyable and relaxing.
Joan, please reply and confirm your acceptance with the above 7 points. It is and hopefully will be a pleasure doing this business with you. What do you say?
JOAN: I agree with all that. But could you post the DVD to me?
KONGKING: No, I would purchase one and deliver it personally to you and we could then talk about purchasing the others
[two weeks pass]
KONGKING: Still interested in the deal?
JOAN: Yes, but we meet here in Bacolod, can’t come to Dumaguete. My dad won’t allow me. He protects me.
KONGKING: I’m thinking of going to Bacolod now. Can you come to my hotel?
JOAN: Yes, as many times as you wish. I will give u all the pleasures u need. I can stay with you when u come here. Let me know when. Can you purchase and mail it to me? Love Joan
KONGKING: No, we agreed that I would deliver the video personally to you
JOAN: Oh, ok. I can meet you in any hotel here in Bacolod city. We can be discreet.
[One body-building video purchased. Then a week before arriving in Bacolod off-line messages sent/received as follows]
KONGKING: I look forward to seeing you next week. Everything ok?
JOAN: Yes, we meet in a Mall with my (ladyboy) brother
KONGKING: I am here to see you, at my hotel, as you agreed, and I am not here to see your brother
JOAN [one day before my arrival in Bacolod]: So sorry well guess by not sending the DVD here only indicates that you don’t have trust in me. So I can’t meet you here in Bacolod so please don’t waste your time. Move on to other city to find some sluts and *****s. Good luck in your search. You can keep the DVD.

[Anyone want a well-travelled body-building video: “Fibo Gold 1985-2005”?!]

By this stage, on arrival in Bacolod, I had 4 other Bacolod chat-mates, two of them really promising (but promising what?) and two luke-warm possibilities. Joan was history and one of the really promising ones now tells me her grand-mother has died and she was heading out of town for a week. How many grandmothers do some of these girls have?

So I put Plan B into operation. I open DateInAsia, go to “Search” and insert: Female, aged 21-29, Philippines, Bacolod (and Bacolod City), on-line now, with photo. I spot three possibilities and send the following DIA message: “Hi dear X, I see you online now. I have just arrived in Bacolod late afternoon. Was going to see my chat-mate but she has gone on holiday to Palawan!! Not a serious relationship, obviously. So I thought I would take a chance and see if I could find, meet, another possible chat mate. I am here for 2-3 days before bussing to Dumaguete. If you are interested in us meeting, say in a Bacolod Mall, give me a call on 09---------. Hugs, Kongking”

Within one hour I get two text message and DIA responses, and after a week the third had not opened her DIA message.

Summary of the week: One of my new contacts was a lovely 21 year old with child. She was great company. She joined me sometimes twice a day, on and off (pun intended) over the week. We will keep in contact. The second new contact, a sweet 23 year old requires more nurturing. I met her at her work; she visited during the lunch hour, very nice and platonic. The longer-term “really promising” chat-mate was a 25 year old and we met twice with her cousins, one who turned out to be one of the other lesser possibilities! It’s a small world in a town of half a million! These girls work together and are often on-line together. A potentially embarrassing situation was laughed over by all of us.

Lessons learnt: never send money, or buy body-building videos (!), for people unseen and unmet. Sometimes short time acquaintances can be just as, or more productive, than longer term chat relationships. However, I have said it before
[ http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=754259#754259 ], I see 4 stages in a relationship and I get just as much enjoyment out of stage two (the “fun stage”) as the gonad satisfying 3rd stage!

KongKing

[GregLondon]

I spent almost a week in Bacolod, and reported in the “Other Areas” forum. Here is my chat-mate experience.

Over 2-3 months prior to my trip I made contact and chatted with 4-5 Filipinas from Bacolod on DateInAsia.com and Cebuanas.com. One chat-mate in particular, Joan, (picture below) was a good learning experience for me! We chatted first on Cebuanas then on Yahoo Messenger, and exchanged emails. The gist over a number of chats went something like this, and skipping the “Hi, Hello, and How are you?” repetitive stuff:
JOAN: So you are from Australia?
KONGKING: Yep
JOAN: I am interested in getting some Australian videos
KONGKING: What kind of videos?
JOAN: Body-building videos
KONGKING: Oh! (surprised that a 21 year old 4’11”, 38kg Filipina is into that kind of thing). For you?
JOAN: No, for my dad, he copies them for local distribution (surely with the owner’s permission!?)
KONGKING: Any particular body-building videos?
JOAN: If you go to this Australian web mail-order site I would like 4 videos (names given). Can you order them for me and mail them to me?
KONGKING: Why don’t you order direct, it’s a mail order site?
JOAN: I don’t have the Australian money
KONGKING: You don’t need Australian money. Philippines pesos would be converted when you on-line purchase
JOAN: I don’t have the pesos
KONGKING: So you want me to buy and mail to you?
JOAN: Yes. I am a loving Filipina and I will make it worthwhile for you. I am a passionate sexy Filipina lady and I can give you all the pleasures you need
KONGKING: Great! I will check that web-site out for you
[followed a few days later by a cam chat full of lovey-dovey stuff and erotic promises if I could get the videos for her]
KONGKING (in an email to her): Joan, you are obviously a good business woman working to help your Dad. I can help you but here are my terms of supply:
1. I will purchase and pay for 1 and up to 3 DVDs by mail order from the Australian web site you specified;
2. I will order within one week of you confirming acceptance of this email;
3. I will deliver personally to you in the Philippines;
4. You say you are a "passionate sexy Filipina lady", and you will give me all the pleasures I need, without restriction;
5. We (just you and I) will meet probably in Dumaguete but maybe in Bacolod (my choice). I will pay for our accommodation food and transport;
6. You will receive one DVD after staying each full 24 hour period you stay with me;
7. I will endeavour to make your time with me enjoyable and relaxing.
Joan, please reply and confirm your acceptance with the above 7 points. It is and hopefully will be a pleasure doing this business with you. What do you say?
JOAN: I agree with all that. But could you post the DVD to me?
KONGKING: No, I would purchase one and deliver it personally to you and we could then talk about purchasing the others
[two weeks pass]
KONGKING: Still interested in the deal?
JOAN: Yes, but we meet here in Bacolod, can’t come to Dumaguete. My dad won’t allow me. He protects me.
KONGKING: I’m thinking of going to Bacolod now. Can you come to my hotel?
JOAN: Yes, as many times as you wish. I will give u all the pleasures u need. I can stay with you when u come here. Let me know when. Can you purchase and mail it to me? Love Joan
KONGKING: No, we agreed that I would deliver the video personally to you
JOAN: Oh, ok. I can meet you in any hotel here in Bacolod city. We can be discreet.
[One body-building video purchased. Then a week before arriving in Bacolod off-line messages sent/received as follows]
KONGKING: I look forward to seeing you next week. Everything ok?
JOAN: Yes, we meet in a Mall with my (ladyboy) brother
KONGKING: I am here to see you, at my hotel, as you agreed, and I am not here to see your brother
JOAN [one day before my arrival in Bacolod]: So sorry well guess by not sending the DVD here only indicates that you don’t have trust in me. So I can’t meet you here in Bacolod so please don’t waste your time. Move on to other city to find some sluts and *****s. Good luck in your search. You can keep the DVD.

[Anyone want a well-travelled body-building video: “Fibo Gold 1985-2005”?!]

By this stage, on arrival in Bacolod, I had 4 other Bacolod chat-mates, two of them really promising (but promising what?) and two luke-warm possibilities. Joan was history and one of the really promising ones now tells me her grand-mother has died and she was heading out of town for a week. How many grandmothers do some of these girls have?

So I put Plan B into operation. I open DateInAsia, go to “Search” and insert: Female, aged 21-29, Philippines, Bacolod (and Bacolod City), on-line now, with photo. I spot three possibilities and send the following DIA message: “Hi dear X, I see you online now. I have just arrived in Bacolod late afternoon. Was going to see my chat-mate but she has gone on holiday to Palawan!! Not a serious relationship, obviously. So I thought I would take a chance and see if I could find, meet, another possible chat mate. I am here for 2-3 days before bussing to Dumaguete. If you are interested in us meeting, say in a Bacolod Mall, give me a call on 09---------. Hugs, Kongking”

Within one hour I get two text message and DIA responses, and after a week the third had not opened her DIA message.

Summary of the week: One of my new contacts was a lovely 21 year old with child. She was great company. She joined me sometimes twice a day, on and off (pun intended) over the week. We will keep in contact. The second new contact, a sweet 23 year old requires more nurturing. I met her at her work; she visited during the lunch hour, very nice and platonic. The longer-term “really promising” chat-mate was a 25 year old and we met twice with her cousins, one who turned out to be one of the other lesser possibilities! It’s a small world in a town of half a million! These girls work together and are often on-line together. A potentially embarrassing situation was laughed over by all of us.

Lessons learnt: never send money, or buy body-building videos (!), for people unseen and unmet. Sometimes short time acquaintances can be just as, or more productive, than longer term chat relationships. However, I have said it before
[ http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=754259#754259 ], I see 4 stages in a relationship and I get just as much enjoyment out of stage two (the “fun stage”) as the gonad satisfying 3rd stage!

KongKing


This is a classic example of a gay/LB dialogue. Whenever the chat mate shows sign of commercial understanding and clear thinking one should start to be suspicious that one is talking to an LB. They are generally much smarter than the girls. Will come straighgt to the point about promising any sexual needs fulfilled. if they are not convincing they can get a female friend to front up some web cam time. if you dont send anything and a meeting seems necessary then the can a bring an LB relative freind etc is a common tactic. they usually have some female friend who can come and be talked into fucking you if necessary and they will just get commission prob about 50%. they lioke to come along too to make sure they are in control of the situation i think.

In general unless you are into them steer well clear they are generally a pain.

[GregLondon]

If like KK you are planning to go to a town with not many other foreign visitors you may find it useful to use Friendster or Tagged.

The numbers of girls active on the dating sites from small /untouristed towns (except in Mindanao) may be relatively low as they dont get enough guys coming there to make it interesting. However girls from these places will often sign up for friendster/tagged which are primily social web sites rather than dating sites. (I think tagged has about 10x the active members as even DIA)

Friendster is the most popular of all but not so easy to seach send messages to targets as is tagged. I was in Puerto Princesa, palawan (A lovely island) and DIA was more or less useless there, but I got quite a few from tagged.

[Robbaf]

I got a friend who was messing around and put a ad on DIA stating that he is an old millionaire who is lonely and wants to give all his money away before he dies. He ask any girl who wanted to go to school, needed money for mother, father, sister, brother or cousins, or if they needed money for a carabao heart transplant, ladyboys who wanted to have implants and on and on.

His ad is so unbelievable that he thought that he would not get one message. He got 200 in 36 hours:D OIP (Only in the Philippines)

Robb

[GregLondon]

I got a friend who was messing around and put a ad on DIA stating that he is an old millionaire who is lonely and wants to give all his money away before he dies. He ask any girl who wanted to go to school, needed money for mother, father, sister, brother or cousins, or if they needed money for a carabao heart transplant, ladyboys who wanted to have implants and on and on.

His ad is so unbelievable that he thought that he would not get one message. He got 200 in 36 hours:D OIP (Only in the Philippines)

Robb

For sure all of them thought that it was 99% chance bullshit, but to copy and paste a message and hit send costs about 0.1 peso and so if you think its a more than 0.0001 % chance its true then it makes sense to hit that send. And more than 0.0001% of Americans are completely crazy for sure

[Radical Guy]

I got a friend who was messing around and put a ad on DIA stating that he is an old millionaire who is lonely and wants to give all his money away before he dies. He ask any girl who wanted to go to school, needed money for mother, father, sister, brother or cousins, or if they needed money for a carabao heart transplant, ladyboys who wanted to have implants and on and on.

His ad is so unbelievable that he thought that he would not get one message. He got 200 in 36 hours:D OIP (Only in the Philippines)

RobbWell, that post was no more unbelievable than a hot 18-year-old girl wanting to marry a 60-year-old man "for love" or claiming that "age doesn't matter." Sometimes people like to believe the fantasy, even when is unbelievable.

[X Man]

Ouch...

There are those of us who believe the fantasy for the fun of it (the so-called gfe), and there are those who swallow the hook, line and sinker. (fishing analogy)

Oh, wait, there are some who criticize us cranky old men for taking advantage of the poor innocent gals who demand "serious" men up to 70. Thanks Radical Guy for the smelling salts.

How's YOUR search? X




Well, that post was no more unbelievable than a hot 18-year-old girl wanting to marry a 60-year-old man "for love" or claiming that "age doesn't matter." Sometimes people like to believe the fantasy, even when is unbelievable.

[X Man]

Point taken, but some of those ladies were intelligent enought to get the joke and were hoping to meet someone with a sense of humor.

Can the original poster share some of the replies....that WOULD be interesting. X


For sure all of them thought that it was 99% chance bullshit, but to copy and paste a message and hit send costs about 0.1 peso and so if you think its a more than 0.0001 % chance its true then it makes sense to hit that send. And more than 0.0001% of Americans are completely crazy for sure

[Kycock]

Been in Manila for 3 weeks. I have tried the regular bar scene before, but was new to the Chat date scene. I placed an ad on DIA and started to chat. What I found was interesting, but turned out to be scary.

First of all it was easy to strike up chats with the girls. There are several types of girls on DIA.

1) Husband hunters. Just stay away.

2) Lonely girl who wants a white guy. Good sex possibiliites if you buy candy or take her to dinner. Be careful as they can get clingly.

3) Profesional girls. Pay for video chat, pay for meet, etc. Mostly scams so stay away.

4) Novice or First time Girl. Low cost. I found one who stayed the entire weekend with me for 1KP.

5) Girls with diseases. Just watch out for girls who want to keep the lights off because they are shy. Covering up it manadtorywith these girls. I met one that looked like she had herpies and another that loked like she was infested with Scabies or crabs.

Think with your big head and put the little head away.

After my last experience, there is no way I would meet another DIA girl, even if some of them are damn near free.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

[FreebieFan]

Been in Manila for 3 weeks. I have tried the regular bar scene before, but was new to the Chat date scene. I placed an ad on DIA and started to chat. What I found was interesting, but turned out to be scary.

First of all it was easy to strike up chats with the girls. There are several types of girls on DIA.

1) Husband hunters. Just stay away.

2) Lonely girl who wants a white guy. Good sex possibiliites if you buy candy or take her to dinner. Be careful as they can get clingly.

3) Profesional girls. Pay for video chat, pay for meet, etc. Mostly scams so stay away.

4) Novice or First time Girl. Low cost. I found one who stayed the entire weekend with me for 1KP.

5) Girls with diseases. Just watch out for girls who want to keep the lights off because they are shy. Covering up it manadtorywith these girls. I met one that looked like she had herpies and another that loked like she was infested with Scabies or crabs.

Think with your big head and put the little head away.

After my last experience, there is no way I would meet another DIA girl, even if some of them are damn near free.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Glad to say my experience is much better than that. I always tell them I'm only there for a few days which is true. Never had a clinger or a diseased one yet. Going to Manila in a few days. And it will be 2 DIA; s, a Tagged, and another one foundi and YM.

[FreebieFan]

Was in a hotel in London the other day and with nothing better to do (was damn cold!) thought would start a chat with one of my prospects for next weeks Manila trip.

Well my friend was online and on cam with a friend by her side also chatting. They were at home and drinking Red Horse.

Thats a strong beer for most Filipinas so I knew there would be some fun.

Sure enough, after I prompt them to turn the music on they get dancing.

Then my friends friend starts to show some cleavage.

After a while she removes her top and dances in her bra. Then her shorts.

This was fun to watch, then my friend gets jealous. Filipinas will always get jealous.

So she leaves the room. The dancing friend now starts asking me " if I like her". I said I don't know her. She says " if you like me, I will take bra and panties off" I reply " sure honey. I like you" I really like you LOL". And shes there buck naked.

Now my friend comes back and theres clearly an argument.

Naked girl runs off and my friend is pissed at me for encouraging girl to get naked.

I tell her the friend has nice boobs. She says " mine are better". And she gets top off to prove it.

I said her friend had a big ass. " she then drops her shorts to show hers is cuter.

Well what else are you supposed to do when cold in a London hotel.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

[GregLondon]

Been in Manila for 3 weeks. I have tried the regular bar scene before, but was new to the Chat date scene. I placed an ad on DIA and started to chat. What I found was interesting, but turned out to be scary.

First of all it was easy to strike up chats with the girls. There are several types of girls on DIA.

1) Husband hunters. Just stay away.

2) Lonely girl who wants a white guy. Good sex possibiliites if you buy candy or take her to dinner. Be careful as they can get clingly.

3) Profesional girls. Pay for video chat, pay for meet, etc. Mostly scams so stay away.

4) Novice or First time Girl. Low cost. I found one who stayed the entire weekend with me for 1KP.

5) Girls with diseases. Just watch out for girls who want to keep the lights off because they are shy. Covering up it manadtorywith these girls. I met one that looked like she had herpies and another that loked like she was infested with Scabies or crabs.

Think with your big head and put the little head away.

After my last experience, there is no way I would meet another DIA girl, even if some of them are damn near free.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

No problem if you want to stay away from DIA - the less competition the better LOL, but in my view you are missing the most interesting type. The sideline girl. These are girls who are students, have a regular job or are one of the army of unemployed in the phils. Remember the site does not allow girls to offer sex for money so they can't say this and also they don't want to get a bad reputation amongst their friends and family. So they will write stuff about meeting Mr Wonderful for a long term relationship. In reality most girls understand that it may be years if ever that Mr Wonderful turns up and in the meantime they are ALWAYS short of cash. For these girls the odd 500p / 1000P from a 3 hour/all night session is a very welcome contribution to their rent or savings for their next cell phone.

Younger girls in this situation will generally be far more appreciative of you taking them to Jollybees, fucking them (preferably not at Jollybees) and slipping then 500P as "taxi money" keep the change than you taking them to a fancy Westernised restaurant and spendinmg the same money on them. if you are targeting the 35+ divorcee market it may be different.

[X Man]

GregfugginLondon.....!!!!!!!!

Some of us want to open the door.

You seem to want to open the door and lead the friggin clueless into our bedrooms - well...her bedrooms.

Get a life wanker!

Don't read anything below this. It's rubbish!


No problem if you want to stay away from DIA - the less competition the better LOL, but in my view you are missing the most interesting type. The sideline girl. These are girls who are students, have a regular job or are one of the army of unemployed in the phils. Remember the site does not allow girls to offer sex for money so they can't say this and also they don't want to get a bad reputation amongst their friends and family. So they will write stuff about meeting Mr Wonderful for a long term relationship. In reality most girls understand that it may be years if ever that Mr Wonderful turns up and in the meantime they are ALWAYS short of cash. For these girls the odd 500p / 1000P from a 3 hour/all night session is a very welcome contribution to their rent or savings for their next cell phone.

Younger girls in this situation will generally be far more appreciative of you taking them to Jollybees, fucking them (preferably not at Jollybees) and slipping then 500P as "taxi money" keep the change than you taking them to a fancy Westernised restaurant and spendinmg the same money on them. if you are targeting the 35+ divorcee market it may be different.

[Jambo]

Was gonna make a relevant post, but I think I will wait until the most recent wave of baiting passes.

[Escort Fan]

I'm bored myself with the la café or bar scene from AC so I was thinking going to DIA to try a new flavor.

However, I'm worried about a few things.

How to pick up, I mean those girls who advertise they are looking for someone to marry in the west, I wonder at which point I should bring up that it's likely not going to happen and that I'm willing to provide a contribution! (not easy to bring up).

Preferably before the deed as I don't want for the girl to feel abused.

[GregLondon]

GregfugginLondon.....!!!!!!!!

Some of us want to open the door.

You seem to want to open the door and lead the friggin clueless into our bedrooms - well...her bedrooms.

Don't read anything below this. It's rubbish!

You have a reasonable point X Man, if not very diplomatically put. In my defence I reckon there must be around 10m target Phils girls, around 500,000 signed up to DIA and around 50,000 active members so there are quite a few to go around, even if a few of the clueless do up their game. That said the cuter girls on DIA are getting pretty snowed with emails so maybe XM is right that the door should be left ajar rather than wide open.

[X Man]

dimple_cutez

i want a guy that is serious,reall,understanding,,loving,kind,and can love me with in his senserity and can accept me for what i am and not for who i am.and i dont like someone whose just aftering for a sex and i hate liars and for those guys that are just playing games sorry i dont want us to hurt me again..its hard to be hurt .i know its hard to find our halfs in our lives but someday i believe that they will come in the right time....enjoy searching and dont play with love

*** wow, was that one sentence? And does anyone really understand what she means when she writes, "can accept me for what i am and not for who i am." Whenever I hear the "what I am" phrase, I immediately look for signs of maleness.

X

[X Man]

My own exp. is that the online gal targets don't work well in AC and MNL is a problem simply because of traffic.

I usually give a miss to the ones who specifically suggest marriage.

As for being honest, just be honest! "I'm looking for friends...tour guides...etc."

Afterwards, "I'm only in country for a week (or three) and no matter how much I care for you....I'll be gone / we'll be seperated..."

As for "contribution", just suggest that "I'll pay your taxi fare...". Or, "I'm on holiday and don't want to fuss about with money so please take this $$$ and you take care of OUR expenses today."

I recommend something VERY simple for a first meeting....mall food court for example. It can only get better if you do it that way.

I'm sure many folks here will have different strategies. This is what works for me. I have four now who still communicate with me after migrating to the West, so I apparently haven't created any lifelong enemies.

X










I'm bored myself with the la café or bar scene from AC so I was thinking going to DIA to try a new flavor.

However, I'm worried about a few things.

How to pick up, I mean those girls who advertise they are looking for someone to marry in the west, I wonder at which point I should bring up that it's likely not going to happen and that I'm willing to provide a contribution! (not easy to bring up).

Preferably before the deed as I don't want for the girl to feel abused.

[Jambo]

Its embarrassing how long I have been doing the pen pal thing. Since I was in college like 30 years ago! Cherry Blossoms came out in magazine format then, and I wrote letters.

Well about 20 years ago, still before the Internet, I flew from my duty station in Japan to Davao to meet a pen friend. All very nice, but nothing came of it. I didn't touch her (thankfully!) Ok I broke her kissing cherry, that's all!

Ok fast forward to this week. I am chatting on cam with a girl who lived in Davao and she says, "wait, did you date my sister ***? I think so" And she proceeds to relate details of that encounter 20 years ago! I did keep a little photo album of that trip, and found it and showed it to the girl. And there, in one of the family line-up pics, she says "oh that's me, the 3yo sucking my thumb" haha.

She said that when she was in college her sister let her read the letters I wrote to her. Later she starts giving me a little shit in the name of her sister like "why didn't I write to her" and "you know she stopped writing to all other friends" and then "you know she is still single, only one child and not too fat" haha

Unfortunately, younger sister does not seem to have inherited the fairly large tits her older sister had. shame.

Man, they like keep dossiers on you. Perhaps even an Intelligence network.

[Member #4351]

Jambo, that´s an unbelievable story! Good thing it was the younger sister and not a daughter.

[GregLondon]

dimple_cutez

i want a guy that is serious,reall,understanding,,loving,kind,and can love me with in his senserity and can accept me for what i am and not for who i am.and i dont like someone whose just aftering for a sex and i hate liars and for those guys that are just playing games sorry i dont want us to hurt me again..its hard to be hurt .i know its hard to find our halfs in our lives but someday i believe that they will come in the right time....enjoy searching and dont play with love

*** wow, was that one sentence? And does anyone really understand what she means when she writes, "can accept me for what i am and not for who i am." Whenever I hear the "what I am" phrase, I immediately look for signs of maleness.

X

According to my girl here in Cebu this would generally be code for 1 or more of 3 possibilities (1) ladyboy (2) poor/low class/uneducated family (3) unmarried mum.

[Cunning Stunt]

eg a really cute and accomodating girl i met a few days ago , Nelsa

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=b4100c1e-e99e-45fb-85cf-3d76e9bc6853


Kudos to you Greg, you are one of the more proactive and useful members of ISG in that you are generous and put cute young things in the way of your fellow members as well as helping them shape their profiles. I like to think that I also am of a similar mindset although I seldom put my real finds on the line, as I imagine that you also do not. Nonetheless, it is one of the most useful and worthwhile functions of ISG, although might I suggest that it might be better that you give out contact details by PM rather than publicly, so that the poor dear doesn’t get inundated by lurkers and non-serious pervies. Just a thought although each to his own.

Curious how you find that time – are you Dr Who and have your own Tardis? A few days ago you appeared to be in Pattaya, recommending your ISG finds. Now you seem to be in Cebu, or is it Angeles? You sure do get around … are you a professional mongerator?

Not enough photo’s though;).

Yesterday I met a 32 year old widow that I found through a classified ad. She was not much to look at but gagging for it so I filled all three holes for her (yes, you read right …three!!, the third was a surprise for me but she was up for it). The things we do to keep the passionate womankind of the Philippine happy:).

[X Man]

Thanks for the reply GL. And CS's kind words directed toward you reminded me -- were you the one who gave me the head's up on Madonna? We exchanged a few messages, but she was in Manila when I was in Cebu. Never got to meet her. X

[GregLondon]

Thanks for the reply GL. And CS's kind words directed toward you reminded me -- were you the one who gave me the head's up on Madonna? We exchanged a few messages, but she was in Manila when I was in Cebu. Never got to meet her. X

Yes I was the one who introduced Madonna. She got alot of interest and then I believe got married to the chap who runs Stripes bar in Cebu. I guess time will tell whether she has really fallen on her feet or not, she had a few pretty serious high end suitors from the US, but I think the majority of these girls lie to close the deal if someone offers marriage and stability. When I met her she waqs living in Catmon with her aged mum in a little hut and hadn't had any luck at all through the dating sites.

Interestingly I had a 18 year old American girl today. Not a typical American girl admittedly 40kg and 4ft 11in. I had invited around another 18 year old DIA girl who had paniced when I emerged from the showed and called in reinforcements in the petite shape of her friend who turned out to be born in Guam 1/4 American with a US Passport. She is well spoken with a nice accent but appears to come from a relatively rough part of town which is a bit incongruous. Given the lack of visa issues, I suspect that she will become an interesting prospect for someone in due course. She has a rather beautiful face.

CS yes my visa ran out in Thailand so decided to head to Cebu but no direct flights any more so stayed a few in AC. In general I prefer to travel around than stick in one place too long.

[Cuba Tourist]

From hey8sme_janica from zamboanga----

i want to hve a friend here in DIA ..............not for having a friend that verry bastos and most of all.
fucker..........coz i know.................many of the boys are..........looking for sex only.............
so if you are a fucker dont ever............massage me coz i dont like you.ok............

[Jambo]

so if you are a fucker
Haha maybe she is looking for a priest?

I was chatting up this one sweet, innocent little cutie way out in Bislig Mindanao. Sent a txt to her auntie, "can sweetie come chat?", and I keep getting this, "sorry I don't have enough money to go to cafe". Hmm ok, no prob.

Then I look at her Cherry Blossoms profile, it shows date last active? Little scammer is online all the time! haha Got to remember to use that Yahoo invisible detector someone posted a while back.

[FreebieFan]

Haha maybe she is looking for a priest?

I was chatting up this one sweet, innocent little cutie way out in Bislig Mindanao. Sent a txt to her auntie, "can sweetie come chat?", and I keep getting this, "sorry I don't have enough money to go to cafe". Hmm ok, no prob.

Then I look at her Cherry Blossoms profile, it shows date last active? Little scammer is online all the time! haha Got to remember to use that Yahoo invisible detector someone posted a while back.Been using it for a while.. always funny when you suprise the girls by sendnig them an sms saying " Hi I see you are online ".... http://www.ydetector.com/

[Cuba Tourist]

Questions and answers from a girl on DIA-

kclici0us from wouldnt you like to know?

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=ef865ca1-d1d3-494d-b33c-018e2493e300



1. Hair Color - Doesn't matter
2. Eye Color - idc
3. Height - 5'9" and up.
4. Six Pack - YEA
5. Long/Short Hair - Short
6. Glasses - NOPE
7. Piercings - Nope
8. Eyebrows - NOT big -n- ickky
9. Big/LiL Butt - Doesn't matter as long as it isnt TOO big
10. Chest Hair - No WaY
11. Buff or Skinny - Buff not Fat
12. Straighh teeth, gap, or braces - Straight
13. Funni or Serious - Funny
14. Party or Stay at home - BOTH
15. Should he hav a best friend - evry1 needs a best friend
16. Should he hav a lot of girl friends - dont care
17. Outgoing or Shy - OUTGOING
18. Sarcastic or Sincere - BOTH
19. Should he love his mom - sure
20. Should he go w/ tha chick flicks: the ones i like w/ me.
21. Smoker - no!
22. Drink - occasionally but not a heavy drinker
23. Would he swear - once in a while not all the time though.
24. Would he pay for Dates - YEAH.
25. Where we would go for fun - any place that is fun.
26. Would he bring flowers - yeah i love flowers.
27. Would he lay under the stars - dont care
28. Would he hang out with u and ur friends - YEAH he better be able to get along with my friends
29. Soccer - no
30. Baseball - no
31. Basketball - HELL YEA!
32. Football - YEA
33. Surf - yessss.
34. Skateboard - no
35. Snowboard - definitely
36. Sing - yes
37. Play guitar - sure
38. Play piano - yea
39. Play Drums - YEA
40. Clean his room - big YES.
41. Use the word dude - NO
42. Use the word tight - NO
43. Watch the sun come up with you - if he wants
44. What Kind of Car - Doesnt matter as long as itz a nice one
45. Name - ANY NAME as long as it isnt Dick or w/e...nothing bad or weird.

[Jambo]

45. Name - ANY NAME as long as it isnt Dick or w/e...nothing bad or weird.
Aw man, I really like calling a girl dirty names while I'm doing it. Man, and I was so in there until that haha!

[Sellmerch1]

I have posted a few times in the general section but not here yet. I am one of the VERY few here who is looking for a long term possibly marraige. Please don't smack me in the head!

Anyways, I have been scanning the DIA website now for a few weeks and only sending a few select girls who interest me a quick note. Most get back to me and are anxious to talk and get things going immediately and usually it isn't long before I get the questions about sending them something to help support them! Well once that happens I immediately bounce them. The other day I get a unsolicited email from a girl who is upset at me for my profile and attacks me about how we "Westerners" think all filipina's are prostitutes and *****s! I never sent her mail or anything and to be truthful my profile does not really lead you to believe that is what I am looking for. Which I am not.

So after several back and forth emails over a few days, she acknoweldges that she misunderstood my profile. I get her YM address and we start chatting. BTW, this girl is very pretty, single no kids and has a job so no mention of money has come up at all. Well over the next few days we talk each day on YM and this girl really starts to loosen up with me. She lets it out that she has a GF who she has loved since 15 but now she wants a man in her life but asks me how I would feel if we were together and she wanted to share with her friend. She emails me photos of her friend and her both are very pretty girls. One is 22 the other is 24 and while she says she is not a lesbian she does say that she enjoys her friend very much too. And was afraid that I might not be accepting of her friendship and love for her friend!

At this point I am secretly jumping for joy! This is every mans dream, a woman who is open with sex and relationships with other woman! She even said that she looks at other woman all the time and wonders how they would be in bed, but is too shy to go for them. So now we are to the point of figuring out how to move things along and see if this thing will work between us. I told her upfront that it will be a long time before I was ready to marry, but would be open to a long term relationship if she was the right one and she was fine with that.

So I guess either I am being dupped here and being setup for something or I have struck it rich. Guess time will tell!

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[Happy Harry]

Congrats Sellmerch1. Sounds like a lot of fun either way.
Just be careful and you should be fine.

Personally it sounds too good to be true but who cares. Plz upload pics if possible.

[Red Kilt]

So I guess either I am being duped here and being setup for something or I have struck it rich. Guess time will tell!Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.

To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.

You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.

[Eaglestar]

Nice gal, nice rack if anyone wants to pursue. I have not pursued.

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=799f4bde-4747-4ff9-811e-f49ec2cde36a

[Sellmerch1]

Ok so here is her pic for you guys who are more visual! I think sh is a real cute girl!

[Sellmerch1]

I fully agree with you and am going into this with my eyes wide open and my small head in check! I expect that this is some form of scam or fishy thing going on! To me she seemed way too willing to give out this type of informtion so readily.

I am game though for playing along and seeing where it all goes. If a meeting does take place it will most definately take place on my terms not theres. I have both of there regular myspace and facebook acounts along with there friendster accounts for both. She gave me the myspace and with a bit of research I was able to find the others and nothing on any of those sites seem to be out of the ordinary and all the photos on all those sites seem to clarify that they spend alot of time together as most the pictures are of them together.

I will be very cautious with this though! If we get to the point of a meeting I will insist they both meet me in a nice public place, then in my hotel room for a sample of whats ahead. I am in no rush to find my long term lady, but I guess I need to start somewhere.


Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.

To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.

You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.

[Sellmerch1]

BTW, the photo is real as I have chatted on CAM with her and she looks exactly like photo!


Ok so here is her pic for you guys who are more visual! I think sh is a real cute girl!

[Bill1963]

I have posted a few times in the general section but not here yet. I am one of the VERY few here who is looking for a long term possibly marraige. Please don't smack me in the head!

Anyways, I have been scanning the DIA website now for a few weeks and only sending a few select girls who interest me a quick note. Most get back to me and are anxious to talk and get things going immediately and usually it isn't long before I get the questions about sending them something to help support them! Well once that happens I immediately bounce them. The other day I get a unsolicited email from a girl who is upset at me for my profile and attacks me about how we "Westerners" think all filipina's are prostitutes and *****s! I never sent her mail or anything and to be truthful my profile does not really lead you to believe that is what I am looking for. Which I am not.

So after several back and forth emails over a few days, she acknoweldges that she misunderstood my profile. I get her YM address and we start chatting. BTW, this girl is very pretty, single no kids and has a job so no mention of money has come up at all. Well over the next few days we talk each day on YM and this girl really starts to loosen up with me. She lets it out that she has a GF who she has loved since 15 but now she wants a man in her life but asks me how I would feel if we were together and she wanted to share with her friend. She emails me photos of her friend and her both are very pretty girls. One is 22 the other is 24 and while she says she is not a lesbian she does say that she enjoys her friend very much too. And was afraid that I might not be accepting of her friendship and love for her friend!

At this point I am secretly jumping for joy! This is every mans dream, a woman who is open with sex and relationships with other woman! She even said that she looks at other woman all the time and wonders how they would be in bed, but is too shy to go for them. So now we are to the point of figuring out how to move things along and see if this thing will work between us. I told her upfront that it will be a long time before I was ready to marry, but would be open to a long term relationship if she was the right one and she was fine with that.

So I guess either I am being dupped here and being setup for something or I have struck it rich. Guess time will tell!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Jesus man are you kidding

You would have to be a moron to marry this slit

You know I got to laugh at the guys who marry prostitiutes, bisexual women and bimbos they get some good sex at first, but are too fuking stupid to realize what keeps a good marriage together

Use you head man, and stop thinking like a pea brain

You fuck these slits you don't marry them

If you get married find a pretty, nice, good morals girl, with a really good family

Start using common sense.

[Canyon]

Sellmerch,

I wouldn't be put off by the comments of Bill1963. He's expressing his opinion, but I wonder about his language and the way he puts down other human beings. Given his vocabulary, I wouldn't pay him any mind.

My advice is to find out what's behind it. It really sounds interesting and you might find a wonderful menage a trois. Do, however, proceed with caution. She's very pretty.

[GregLondon]

Sellmerch,

I wouldn't be put off by the comments of Bill1963. He's expressing his opinion, but I wonder about his language and the way he puts down other human beings. Given his vocabulary, I wouldn't pay him any mind.

My advice is to find out what's behind it. It really sounds interesting and you might find a wonderful menage a trois. Do, however, proceed with caution. She's very pretty.

I agree with Canyon. There is nothing in the description you have given so far to suggest this girl is not an honest, decent girl with high morals. Of course its early days and you haven't even met her yet so who knows.

Personally I always try to go around with bi girls or girls who are open to threesomes in the phils. it makes life far more interesting than otherwise. I find that the majority of Phils girls are initially appalled by the idesa then if they are persuaded to try quickly become very much into it. That's certainly the pattern with the girl i am with now who only 5 days ago was hiding in the CR when one of my female friends wanted to lick her boobs. Now she is constantly on the hunt for new girls for us to try together. it is much easier for her to hit on girls in the street or mall than I usually within a few mins she has got their cell number then we can start suggestive texts.

I think the guys who marry a phil girl who is jealous about you seeing any other girls are just signing up for a lifetime of deceipt and cheating and probably ultimate expensive divorce.

[Sellmerch1]

Wow Bill.

Sounds like you really know how to treat those little ladies there! That is why we Westerners get our bad name there! While I do appreciate your view on things there I do not agree with them.


Jesus man are you kidding

You would have to be a moron to marry this slit

You know I got to laugh at the guys who marry prostitiutes, bisexual women and bimbos they get some good sex at first, but are too fuking stupid to realize what keeps a good marriage together

Use you head man, and stop thinking like a pea brain

You fuck these slits you don't marry them

If you get married find a pretty, nice, good morals girl, with a really good family

Start using common sense.

[Sellmerch1]

While I am intrigued by my converstaions with this girl, they are only converstaions at this point. I am not some young and dumb horn toad who thinks all is right with this. Time will tell and when I am there I will attempt a meeting with these tow to try and iron out what is real and what is not. If it happens to be a game then so be it.

Good Luck guys and thanks.


I agree with Canyon. There is nothing in the description you have given so far to suggest this girl is not an honest, decent girl with high morals. Of course its early days and you haven't even met her yet so who knows.

Personally I always try to go around with bi girls or girls who are open to threesomes in the phils. it makes life far more interesting than otherwise. I find that the majority of Phils girls are initially appalled by the idesa then if they are persuaded to try quickly become very much into it. That's certainly the pattern with the girl i am with now who only 5 days ago was hiding in the CR when one of my female friends wanted to lick her boobs. Now she is constantly on the hunt for new girls for us to try together. it is much easier for her to hit on girls in the street or mall than I usually within a few mins she has got their cell number then we can start suggestive texts.

I think the guys who marry a phil girl who is jealous about you seeing any other girls are just signing up for a lifetime of deceipt and cheating and probably ultimate expensive divorce.

[Riverman]

Well, what an adventure is DIA. Based on the advice and experience of those who have gone before, I adopted a two prong approach to this free Filipina dating site. Basically I created two profiles. The first I call Alterboy; the second Sexybeast. Alterboy is the decent, sincere white-bread LTR/marriage minded sort. Sexybeast is up-front about his desire for a until-fuck-do-us-part, I will be generous to nice girls for sex, short-term only relationship.

It has been fascinating.

I began with Alterboy a few weeks ago. Even without a pic in the profile at first he generated tons of interest from young attractive ladies in the 18-25 demographic, his target. He approached and responded only to ladies who themselves only had “good girl” profiles.

The girls would readily respond to his messages and very many would initiate messages themselves if they noticed he had visited their profiles but had not left a message. After chatting with scores of girls, those who did not fall off the line themselves or be rejected by Alterboy outright for one reason or another, fell into two main camps. There were those who made it fairly clear that they needed support and would be Alterboy’s lover when he came though they hoped for more, and those who were playing the role of the good girl virginal traditional Filipina girl whose only desire was for a good foreign man for marriage because all those bad Filipino boys/men are nothing but players and drunkards.

After a shorter or longer period of chatting with a girl from either group, each and every one of them would indicate that Alterboy was or was becoming “their only one.” Though this was belied by the fact that casual observance of yahoo messenger or DIA activity on their part usually indicated much time spent on the internet chatting up other guys.

Whereas Alterboy spent an inordinate amount of time talking to them about their life—their family, their work, their schooling, their likes and dislikes, what they were looking for or not looking for in a man, ad nausea—Sexybeast went right for the Jugular. His profile stated up front that he was looking for short-term love in return for generosity. In his first chat he verified they had read his profile and new exactly what he wanted. He got their agreement that they would entertain him in his hotel room.

In only a couple of days Sexybeast had nearly a dozen hot young women fully on board with his program. Though Sexybeast was expecting to keep these girls in the virtual rolodex until he had actual use for them, a surprising number of these girls indicated they hoped they could chat with him regularly until he came to the phils, and thought they knew exactly what he wanted and that they would give it to him, they hoped that they and Sexybeast would remain friends afterwards and that Sexybeast consider them girlfriend/wife material!

Alterboy, however was not after volume, he was after The One. His life mate. There were so many possibilities but he was selective. He was judicious and careful. He whittled down all the possible mates he was finding down to two that seemed to have the requisite beauty, intelligence, loyalty, sincerity, and moral fiber.

Whereas the “you are the only one” declarations of all the other girls rang hollow, with these two their sincerity was touching and real. Their internet activity appeared reasonable. They were fun and charming to chat with. They never asked for money or gifts. Their life goals and ambitions meshed quite well with those of Alterboy. He would meet both of course in person, but if both turned out as wonderful as they so obviously were which one to choose would turn out to be quite the dilemma.

To help with this, and to possibly save Alterboy from himself, I decided to enlist Sexybeast in Alterboy’s selection process. Sexybeast from his unique DIA profile sent both of these paragons of the marriageable Filipina his standard approach message praising their beauty and entreating them to read his profile and get back to him. Both of them did! Enthusiastically! Despite their obvious love and devotion to Alterboy (which oddly enough, I believe was genuine), both of these girls wanted to fuck Sexybeast for his money.

The lesson: Filipinas are beautiful, charming, and interesting creatures; however, just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, no matter what you think. They approach love and marriage just like the major airlines just coming off a passenger down-cycle—no matter what they are going to overbook the marriage flight until they have the thing locked down. Once on board, they will probably fly you to where you want to go, but until that time they cannot risk their future and security with potentially empty promises.

Because of this experience, I now believe, that if you are using and internet dating sites to find a wholesome Filipina for marriage your best bet is to hit them up with one profile for P4P first, may a few times, and then approach the ones that do not respond with your nice guy profile. After a period of courtship, retest them or investigate them. Trust, but verify, then trust but verify again.

Just bear in mind guys, no matter what, in all likelyhood when they tell you "you are the only one" they really mean, "I wish you were the only one."

I will be in Cebu in a couple of months, I’ll post my in-person experiences once I have the pleasure of having them.

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[GregLondon]

While I am intrigued by my converstaions with this girl, they are only converstaions at this point. I am not some young and dumb horn toad who thinks all is right with this. Time will tell and when I am there I will attempt a meeting with these tow to try and iron out what is real and what is not. If it happens to be a game then so be it.

Good Luck guys and thanks.

I think one needs to be honest and realistic and realise that 95% of the internet conversations one has with PI girls whilst not in the country is a form of masturbation. Guys feeling lonely in western countries where no girls under 35 are willing to even acknowledge him and 100 messsages on dating sites receive 2 replies from fat 45 year olds and another 4 from glamorous Russian ladies living in Siberia. Suddely guys discover a site such as DIA where they can get a 50% response from an unlimited number of 18-30 cuties.

However the "due diligence" that people imagine that they are doing for months or years is in reality of fairly limited value first because in many cases guys dont actually meet more than 1 or 2 of the girls they have been chatting to, instead falling for the hotel receptionist, a friend of someone they met on the plane etc etc.

In most cases its REALLY difficult to get an idea of how the girl will be through her profile and its only when u get here and actually meet her in person that you get a feel for how it will be in reality.

[Member #3428]

in many cases guys dont actually meet more than 1 or 2 of the girls they have been chatting to

Not surprisingly majority of the girls I meet have NEVER hooked up with a guy they chatted with until me, and they are surprised I actually do transit and work in Manila.

[GregLondon]

Well, what an adventure is DIA. Based on the advice and experience of those who have gone before, I adopted a two prong approach to this free Filipina dating site. Basically I created two profiles. The first I call Alterboy; the second Sexybeast. Alterboy is the decent, sincere white-bread LTR/marriage minded sort. Sexybeast is up-front about his desire for a until-fuck-do-us-part, I will be generous to nice girls for sex, short-term only relationship.

It has been fascinating.

I began with Alterboy a few weeks ago. Even without a pic in the profile at first he generated tons of interest from young attractive ladies in the 18-25 demographic, his target. He approached and responded only to ladies who themselves only had “good girl” profiles.

The girls would readily respond to his messages and very many would initiate messages themselves if they noticed he had visited their profiles but had not left a message. After chatting with scores of girls, those who did not fall off the line themselves or be rejected by Alterboy outright for one reason or another, fell into two main camps. There were those who made it fairly clear that they needed support and would be Alterboy’s lover when he came though they hoped for more, and those who were playing the role of the good girl virginal traditional Filipina girl whose only desire was for a good foreign man for marriage because all those bad Filipino boys/men are nothing but players and drunkards.

After a shorter or longer period of chatting with a girl from either group, each and every one of them would indicate that Alterboy was or was becoming “their only one.” Though this was belied by the fact that casual observance of yahoo messenger or DIA activity on their part usually indicated much time spent on the internet chatting up other guys.

Whereas Alterboy spent an inordinate amount of time talking to them about their life—their family, their work, their schooling, their likes and dislikes, what they were looking for or not looking for in a man, ad nausea—Sexybeast went right for the Jugular. His profile stated up front that he was looking for short-term love in return for generosity. In his first chat he verified they had read his profile and new exactly what he wanted. He got their agreement that they would entertain him in his hotel room.

In only a couple of days Sexybeast had nearly a dozen hot young women fully on board with his program. Though Sexybeast was expecting to keep these girls in the virtual rolodex until he had actual use for them, a surprising number of these girls indicated they hoped they could chat with him regularly until he came to the phils, and thought they knew exactly what he wanted and that they would give it to him, they hoped that they and Sexybeast would remain friends afterwards and that Sexybeast consider them girlfriend/wife material!

Alterboy, however was not after volume, he was after The One. His life mate. There were so many possibilities but he was selective. He was judicious and careful. He whittled down all the possible mates he was finding down to two that seemed to have the requisite beauty, intelligence, loyalty, sincerity, and moral fiber.

Whereas the “you are the only one” declarations of all the other girls rang hollow, with these two their sincerity was touching and real. Their internet activity appeared reasonable. They were fun and charming to chat with. They never asked for money or gifts. Their life goals and ambitions meshed quite well with those of Alterboy. He would meet both of course in person, but if both turned out as wonderful as they so obviously were which one to choose would turn out to be quite the dilemma.

To help with this, and to possibly save Alterboy from himself, I decided to enlist Sexybeast in Alterboy’s selection process. Sexybeast from his unique DIA profile sent both of these paragons of the marriageable Filipina his standard approach message praising their beauty and entreating them to read his profile and get back to him. Both of them did! Enthusiastically! Despite their obvious love and devotion to Alterboy (which oddly enough, I believe was genuine), both of these girls wanted to fuck Sexybeast for his money.

The lesson: Filipinas are beautiful, charming, and interesting creatures; however, just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, no matter what you think. They approach love and marriage just like the major airlines just coming off a passenger down-cycle—no matter what they are going to overbook the marriage flight until they have the thing locked down. Once on board, they will probably fly you to where you want to go, but until that time they cannot risk their future and security with potentially empty promises.

Because of this experience, I now believe, that if you are using and internet dating sites to find a wholesome Filipina for marriage your best bet is to hit them up with one profile for P4P first, may a few times, and then approach the ones that do not respond with your nice guy profile. After a period of courtship, retest them or investigate them. Trust, but verify, then trust but verify again.

Just bear in mind guys, no matter what, in all likelyhood when they tell you "you are the only one" they really mean, "I wish you were the only one."

I will be in Cebu in a couple of months, I’ll post my in-person experiences once I have the pleasure of having them.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

A very useful experiment and cautionary message to those who are seeking a Goodie 2 Shoes type wife on DIA or other Phils dating sites. In defence of the dishonesty of Filipinas I think the vast majority of guys on DIA are equally dishonest about their intentions, their plans to come to the Phils, the number of girls they are chatting to etc. Many of the girls i hang out with like to do their DIA/Tagged/Friendster stuff in my room (I carry a netbook as a backup to my regular laptop which I allow them to use - which increases the desire of girls to hang around and get fucked repeatedly considerably).

Some of the hard core guys are very nasty pieces of work IMHO

[X Man]

All I can say is WOW. An interesting strategy, and obviously a well written essay. Thanks for the post. X


Well, what an adventure is DIA. Based on the advice and experience of those who have gone before, I adopted a two prong approach to this free Filipina dating site.
SNIP

Just bear in mind guys, no matter what, in all likelihood when they tell you "you are the only one" they really mean, "I wish you were the only one."


EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

[GregLondon]

The girl I am hanging out with at the moment has told me that if I want casual fun in the phils i had better say that I was looking for an open minded friend rather than a girlfriend. The point being that a "girlfriend" here in the Phils is seen as a pretty serious exclusive relationship, meet the parents provide financial support etc. Whereas "friends" includes what we might call remunerated fuck buddies. However she does say that "open minded " has several meanings not just sexually open minded. She suggests something like "who can make it happy to me" which apparently is unambiguous.

for the guys experimenting with "bad boy" profiles. My advice would be to be "frank" but also NOT CRUDE, there are loads of really nice girls who will give you no strings remunerated sex but who just delete any of the many messages talking crudely and disrespectfully.

[Gdlif]

The girl I am hanging out with at the moment has told me that if I want casual fun in the phils I had better say that I was looking for an open minded friend rather than a girlfriend. The point being that a "girlfriend" here in the Phils is seen as a pretty serious exclusive relationship, meet the parents provide financial support etc. Whereas "friends" includes what we might call remunerated fuck buddies. However she does say that "open minded " has several meanings not just sexually open minded. She suggests something like "who can make it happy to me" which apparently is unambiguous.

For the guys experimenting with "bad boy" profiles. My advice would be to be "frank" but also NOT CRUDE, there are loads of really nice girls who will give you no strings remunerated sex but who just delete any of the many messages talking crudely and disrespectfully.Useful peace of information. Shall implement it.

[Ajacobson]

Well, what an adventure is DIAThank you for that illuminative and genuinely awesome study. You obviously have put a lot of work and fun into it.

However, I believe it's generally a systemic problem expecting to find "true love" either in the appropriate bars or dating websites.

We are all aware of the conjectural reason why good looking young girls in the Philippines desperately try to find guys from the West while possibly compromising with regards to age-gap, looks and wealth. Are we?

I have some very beautiful friends, real friends among Filipinas. They date or married local guys (carefully selected from among the few who aren't morons) even though they have more access to foreigners than any of the girls on the dating sites, Westeners that are really in the country. In fact they can have a hard time fighting off those dudes from the US or Europe, who arrogantly generalize the complete population of Filipinas as "available". Those girls have decent jobs, coming from well-off families (prerequisite for a good education and therefore for a good job) and you won't find any of them in those places, neither virtual nor real.

These are two different worlds and you'll only get the fruits of the basket you are searching in.

The society of the Philippines is highly segregated. If someone must exploit the relative poverty of the majority, he shouldn't fool himself about it. Being accepted by a girl from the minority who doesn't "need" a foreigner (I'm not talking about girls from rich families only, just independance and relative financial stability) will take at least as much effort as finding a girl "at home", possibly more, since many of those are more conservative, fear the cultural gap and, of course, are totally aware of the shitty reputation most Western visitors to the Philippines really work hard on.

[Superman06]

I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?

[Vittu]

Greg -- What a wonderful message. Kudos.

[GregLondon]

I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?

Simple is a VERY common self description for girls in the Phils. I just consulted the girl I am hanging out with and she says in the context of a girl it means she is a natural beauty who doesn't use makeup, go to expensive hair stylist or as she puts it - "puts medicine in her hair". A Simple girl can ride around in a jeepney not call a taxi and doesn't need to stay in a flash hotel. It doesnt have the "simple minded" connotations we have in the west. A simple girl does not have academic or social pretensions.

[KongKing]

I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?
When reading Filipina profiles treat simple = modest

Westerners see simple = simpleton. But it is wrong to take that meaning in the Phils.

Filipinas sometimes say they are simple but this means a simple modest lifestyle. It often is a signal that she is from a poor family without many of the necessities and luxuries we take for granted in the western world.

KongKing

[GregLondon]

Thought I would give further feedback on the "simple" thing. My Filipina friend seems to divide girls into 3 camps Simple, social and dirty.

The "social" girl is the type of girl who hangs around in Resto-bars, eats at Jollybees or pizza, wears sunglasses, spends alot of time fixing her hair and manicuring her nails. Unless she is from a good family or (exceptionally if she is young) has a good job she needs to finance this lifestyle through men. Ideally someone who will "sponsor" her, ie someone who is foolish enough to send her money to "pay for her education" blah blah, or from a long term boy friend or from short term stuff. In many cases these girls are college girls and can be great fun if they arent too fixated on the social climbing.

The "simple" girl is more likely to eat vegetables ant a cheap local restaurant and a trip to Jollybees is regarded as something of a treat. By and large these girls are more interested in longer term relationships, though can be talked into something shorter term in some cases.

The "dirty" girls are the ones wandering around looking for business. The poorer ones are literally rather dirty, some of them can probably be taken for 200-300P. Personally i would steer clear of this type.

[Sammon]

Thought I would give further feedback on the "simple" thing. My Filipina friend seems to divide girls into 3 camps Simple, social and dirty.

The "social" girl is the type of girl who hangs around in Resto-bars, eats at Jollybees or pizza, wears sunglasses, spends alot of time fixing her hair and manicuring her nails. Unless she is from a good family or (exceptionally if she is young) has a good job she needs to finance this lifestyle through men. Ideally someone who will "sponsor" her, ie someone who is foolish enough to send her money to "pay for her education" blah blah, or from a long term boy friend or from short term stuff. In many cases these girls are college girls and can be great fun if they arent too fixated on the social climbing.

The "simple" girl is more likely to eat vegetables ant a cheap local restaurant and a trip to Jollybees is regarded as something of a treat. By and large these girls are more interested in longer term relationships, though can be talked into something shorter term in some cases.

The "dirty" girls are the ones wandering around looking for business. The poorer ones are literally rather dirty, some of them can probably be taken for 200-300P. Personally i would steer clear of this type.

Just spent 10 days with a manila girl I found on Date In Asia. First time around 3 days and a week in Angeles without her and a week with her again in Manila. Why?
To start with i did not expect much. She was a average young girl with a child. Said she had a job but probably turned out to be a lie. Said she lives in house owned by her parents and lives alone but when I showed interest in seeing the place she did not want to take me. Was constantly getting texts from god knows who.
Good points with her is she is a certified nymphette and was always ready for sex whenever. All I needed was good sex from her and she did not dissappoint me. Cost wise all I gave her was 5000 pesos she said she needed to buy things. For 7 days of unlimited sex it was worth it. Foodwise she was quite happy with jollibee although I did take her to few good restaurents.
Bad points are I do not know her background, Her means of support without a job, There was no regular conversation which is interesting. These things did bother me because other than sex there was no common attraction.
It is possible she did not care because she knows I will not be her BF or means of support.
I consider her a good , lonely girl wanting to meet foreigners and she did say I was her first foreigner. Overall it was a good experience compared to bargirls.

[FreebieFan]

Ok, the girl needs her next bf to buy her a hairbrush, but this little lady stands out as a Cutie of the Year contender

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=24f93e28-416c-466b-9846-60d8bea3a178 cutie vangie from makati

[Escort Fan]

How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.

I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.

Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.

Humm this is not good.

There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.

The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.

And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.

Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.

[FreebieFan]

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=42860f57-e5bf-483d-a613-f25d3ec9e8e3

Isla Heart from Manila

[Member #3428]

Ok, the girl needs her next bf to buy her a hairbrush, but this little lady stands out as a Cutie of the Year contender

http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=24f93e28-416c-466b-9846-60d8bea3a178 cutie vangie from makati

And I'm sure her messages just went through the roof ;)

[GregLondon]

How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.

I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.

Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.

Humm this is not good.

There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.

The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.

And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.

Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.

1 Write a profile being frank about what you are looking for but not being crude.

2 Decide where in phils you want to go and concentrate on girls in that town or max an hour or two away. Dont plan on meeting 10 different girls in different cities and spend all your time flying around.

3 Write an intro message and put it in notepad then copy and paste. Key points - ethnicity if you are a white guy mention it most of the girls just delete any messages from Philipinos, Arabs, Pakistanis etc The firmer you can be on planned trip where you will go and what dates the better as many guys are just day dreaming about going to the phils or thinking about going there "sometime next year" Say something like im looking for an open minded, passionate girl aged 18-25, without a baby, willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted ) at my hotel. Ask for her YM (yahoo messenger ID and cell no. Finish of with something along the lines of Sorry for such a frank message, but I dont want to waste your time if you are looking for something different. I am looking for a real girl, not a shemale/ladyboy (unless you are of course). You prob dont have to mention anythinmg about money at this stage, with such a message girls willassume they are can expect to be compensated.

4 you used to be able to copy and paste the same message to many girls, DIA have now stoped this so you may need a introductory hi / im coming to phils soon etc and then follow up respondees with your cut and paste message

5 Do a search according to age and location, send an intro message to anyone you fancy. I tend to avoid obvious model photos and clear ladyboys. Dont pay much attention to whether the girls are supposedly looking for a Mr right or serious relationship etc they will all put that as its their main aim but many will be up for short term fun in any case.

If you are targeted open minded cities such as Manila, Cebu or Angeles you will prob get a 50% response, maybe 25% in the provinces.

6 Once you have the girls YM just add thenm and nexttime you are online have a quick chat to establish whether she understand s what you want where exactly she lives etc etc. Establish some sort of methodology for nameing the girls in YM using the nick name function of u will end up with 4 cuteie roses and not know who is who

[Westerby]

Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.

To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.

You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.Reminds me of an Indonesian girl I meet on DIA. She had just been deceived by her best friend and the belgian bf she had been talking to for a while. I talked to her on cam and she started crying. After about an hour of crying she wiped the tears away and gave me a nice dance with the music on. Clothes on and all.

And it continued like that.

It was like taken out of a manual of how to create rapport and even a relationship FAST. Relationships build through common experiences and bad experiences with a common other 'villain' works well. She ran through most of the steps on a couple of hours.

Just be careful mate.

[Red Kilt]

. Say something like I'm looking for an open minded, passionate girl aged 18-25, without a baby, willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted) at my hotel. Ask for her YM (yahoo messenger ID and cell no. Finish of with something along the lines of Sorry for such a frank message, but I don't want to waste your time if you are looking for something different. I am looking for a real girl, not a shemale/ladyboy (unless you are of course)..Excellent post Greg.

Just a couple of general points in response:

(1) I put up a relatively frank note like you suggested and someone must have read it and complained about it (reported me!). Next thing I know I was temporarily suspended and asked to modify my message so I guess this is always a risk

(2) The small-scale research project reported here that used 2 IDs is not permitted by DIA if you use the same computer with the same IP number. The system will block you from having 2 IDs and they will warn you that you will be banned.

You need to use a different computer (my experience anyway. Maybe there is a way around it?)

I totally agree with ALL of your suggestions. My experience is the same.

[X Man]

You already have some good advice from GL. A system to keep track of them all is one of the hardest things. I used to download the pic but I think DIA has started to block that. There is software that will do a "print screen".

Online -- At some point I say "friends" or "friends first". I don't spend a lot of time chatting back and forth. After a few exchanges I ask for email and phone (as GL suggested).

I usually don't hint at an overnighter. In fact, a lot of my online successes were in the afternoon after lunch and then the gal went home in the evening. If the gal lives with her family she might have to make some special arrangements in order to stay overnight.

When I'm finally in country they might say, "oh, you forgot me." My reply is that, "no, I just was very busy finishing my work so that my boss would let me travel!"

Later when I start some light touch testing, they'll say, "oh, I thought you said friends?". I might respond with a sly smile and say, "yes", and then move away from her. Or I might say, "but I like you --- a little." Most Filipinas respond well to some kidding or teasing. Be warned though -- they can dish it out pretty well too.

I guess there is a different strategy for everyone on this list, so you have to work out what is easy for you and what fits your personality.

Oh, and remember -- you are NOT a sex tourist. You are going to the Philippines to enjoy the culture, the beach, the warm weather...and of course you want to meet some of the local people.

Have fun, X


How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.

I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.

Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.

Humm this is not good.

There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.

The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.

And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.

Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.

[Marconista]

Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.

Four of the ladies I met was to begin with rather shy was up for friendship, as in having coffee or lunch. They all lived with their families and ALL said that their mother/father was strict with them and that they had a curfew to obey.
After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.
So - we met in Harrison Mall and Mall of Asia about 10-11AM and took a taxi back to my hotel where they stayed until about 7pm.
The evenings I was not too exhausted, I went out to party with some local friends, but back early so I could meet the next friend the next morning. And - surprisingly, all but one met up at agreed time. The one that was late, was due to heavy rain.

So - essense of my experience is that ladies may not be willing to stay with you overnight, but willing to meet and fcuk during daytime.


...willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted ) at my hotel...

[Escort Fan]

Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.Did you give them money?

[FreebieFan]

After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.I think there must be a " How a Filipina gets to deal with foreigners " website where they discuss how to handle us.

Because for sure, they have all read and totally learnt the mantra of " Tell him you are the first foreigner you have met".

I've heard that line many many many times and within ten minutes of meeting were on our way to a motel.

What I think they mean is " you are the first foreigner I've met TODAY".

[Superman06]

Thanks to all for your responses on the term "simple". Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
It's usually included with the phrase "I want to meet for Friendship, Romance or Other". The whole phrase has the connotation of not seeking an exclusive long term relationship. You know, the kind guys like us are seeking on vacation. ;) Is my thinking right?

BTW I'll be visiting Cebu early in March and this is my first Asian trip. I am a veteran of several Costa Rica trips and hobby on a regular basis at home. I only wish I had started using DIA earlier. What a great resource. The responses so far have been great. I tend to like the more mature ladies. But then again I like the young ones too. :)

[GregLondon]

Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.

Four of the ladies I met was to begin with rather shy was up for friendship, as in having coffee or lunch. They all lived with their families and ALL said that their mother/father was strict with them and that they had a curfew to obey.
After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.
So - we met in Harrison Mall and Mall of Asia about 10-11AM and took a taxi back to my hotel where they stayed until about 7pm.
The evenings I was not too exhausted, I went out to party with some local friends, but back early so I could meet the next friend the next morning. And - surprisingly, all but one met up at agreed time. The one that was late, was due to heavy rain.

So - essense of my experience is that ladies may not be willing to stay with you overnight, but willing to meet and fcuk during daytime.

You are right that many girls are reluctant to stay overnight even if they are up for a daytime meeting. (By the way if you are staying at a place with a pool try suggesting she come around for a swim, bring bikini and that you will be pleased to take photos of her - this is a very attractive proposition for many girls at it legitimizes coming to your room. Getting some decent photos is very important for them , to upload to their friendster and to improve their DIA profile - if you are looking for a threesome its also a good way of suggesting she bring along an open minded fuckable friend but make sure she is only allowed to bring slim sexy open minded real girls and specifically no gays, fatties or moral majority types. You can be frank and explicit about this.)

The reasons for non overnighting include worried about sleeping with a stranger, family curfew, Phils boyfriend, wants to go out dancing with her friends and blow the money you give her. Maybe 30% of those willing to fuck will also overnight if you want. Student types living at a "boardinmg house" away from their family can be the best bet.

[GregLondon]

Thanks to all for your responses on the term "simple". Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
It's usually included with the phrase "I want to meet for Friendship, Romance or Other". The whole phrase has the connotation of not seeking an exclusive long term relationship. You know, the kind guys like us are seeking on vacation. ;) Is my thinking right?

BTW I'll be visiting Cebu early in March and this is my first Asian trip. I am a veteran of several Costa Rica trips and hobby on a regular basis at home. I only wish I had started using DIA earlier. What a great resource. The responses so far have been great. I tend to like the more mature ladies. But then again I like the young ones too. :)

On balance this is probably what the majority of girls think other means (ie remunerated short term sex), but the girls often dont 100% understand what it means. The ones that do understand it are the pros/scammers/lady boys etc so if a girl ticks other pay attention to whether she might fall into that category.

Those ticking "dating" are probably more up for it than those ticking just marriage but i ignore what they have selected as i have found plenty who have specified just marriage willing to fuck too.

[GregLondon]

Excellent post Greg.

Just a couple of general points in response:

(1) I put up a relatively frank note like you suggested and someone must have read it and complained about it (reported me!). Next thing I know I was temporarily suspended and asked to modify my message so I guess this is always a risk

(2) The small-scale research project reported here that used 2 IDs is not permitted by DIA if you use the same computer with the same IP number. The system will block you from having 2 IDs and they will warn you that you will be banned.

You need to use a different computer (my experience anyway. Maybe there is a way around it?)

I totally agree with ALL of your suggestions. My experience is the same.


Good point RK

DIA has a policy that you cant solicit for money or offer money etc so I avoid references to paying anything, also you must use words that are clear but dont specifically mention sex etc.

Re the dual profiles. Yes you are in danger of getting both profile blocked if you use on the same computer/browser. I can access both my profile and my girl's profile on the laptop I'm now using maybe it allows a male and a female profile. If you want to try to run two profiles try using a different browser for each profile. Eg Firefox and Chrome or Opera or Flock or (last resort Explorer ). it may be using cookies that are held on a particular browser.

[GregLondon]

Did you give them money?

EF: Is your concern one of

(1) Not wishing to offend girls
(2) Wanting to save money
(3) Wanting to boost your ego that you can still pull 19 year old cuties for free?

If it is (1), then don't be too worried, its mostly a question of the style with which you do it. Unless she is independently wealthy, within say 15 years of your age or shooting for a husband, very naive some financial contribution is likely to be expected or very much appreciated. But the majority of these girls are very keen not to be treated or feel like a *****, therefore the majority of non hard core ones will not ask for or discuss money, but for a girl living on say 200P a day a contribution of say 500P short time or 1000P all night is almost always appreciated. Try not to make a big deal about it here's something to help you with your bills or whatever. If you are worried about the girls feelings treat her like a gf when you say good bye not "here's your cash thanks for the fuck" that will make most of them feel very bad.

(2) For most guys flying in on a holiday the amounts involved are actually money well spent, firstly in helping someone who has made you happy, secondly on encouraging repeat performances or invitations to fuck friends too and thirdly to make things much less complicated in terms of emotional commitment. The expats living here long term will often be on a tighter budget and see things differently.

(3) Surprising though it may seem the average Joe balding 40/50 something white guy is in many cases a genuinely attractive sexual partner to many 20 year old Filipinas. Of course its also the hotel and restaurant lifestyle that is assumed to come with it, but if you are tolerably good in bed you will find many Filipinas who REALLY enjoy being fucked by you and want it as many times as you can manage. This is a big difference with Thailand and the rest of SEA and one of the main reasons fro coming to the Phils and avoiding the bar scene where I think girls will inevitably become too jaded to genuinely enjoy the experience.

[Lushington]

What I used to do at DIA was search while NOT logged in! To do this just bring DIA up without logging in and search for what you're looking for! Write the screen names of those you want to hit on and save them or write them down and When properley signed in send them messages!

I found this system was great because I was'nt bothered by girls contacting me while I was hunting!

Hope this helps!

[Escort Fan]

EF: Is your concern one of

(1) Not wishing to offend girls
(2) Wanting to save money
(3) Wanting to boost your ego that you can still pull 19 year old cuties for free?C'mon mate, 2 is not an option. 2, 000 pesos isn't even the price of a cab ride in London or Paris!:)

3. I don't do 19 yo:)

1- yep, especially since I target girls in the 25-30 yo range. I target girls with an education and a descent job. Giving cash to a 20 yo is easy, like go buy yourself something nice at the mall or something. To give cash to a 25-30 yo lady it's more tricky!

[Marconista]

@Freebiefan,
Yeah for sure lolz.. the first foreigner today.
But honestly, they were all totally amateurs in my eyes.

@Escort Fan,
I gave them a little, for transport and to fill up the rice-fund of the family. I did not feel for buying a sack of rice, so gave some cash instead :D
Actually, I remember one of the girls describing her family situation, and saying how they were struggling on a day to day basis, as none in the family had a job. I told her I was willing to contribute a little, and it was thumbs-up on the webcam.



Did you give them money?

[GregLondon]

C'mon mate, 2 is not an option. 2, 000 pesos isn't even the price of a cab ride in London or Paris!:)

3. I don't do 19 yo:)

1- yep, especially since I target girls in the 25-30 yo range. I target girls with an education and a descent job. Giving cash to a 20 yo is easy, like go buy yourself something nice at the mall or something. To give cash to a 25-30 yo lady it's more tricky!

You are right its more tricky, but generally cash will still be much appreciated. A uni girl with a job as a manageress at a finance company for example may only be earning 8000-10000 P a month at least in the provinces. I think its only when u start talking about the real middle classes where she has a car etc that its much of an issue.

[Red Kilt]

Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".

. Is my thinking right?Super I think you are over-analysing the sentence "Friendship, Romance or Other" and giving the girls too much credit for reading it carefully and considering it carefully too.

As Greg L says, they don't know what "other" means, and the option does not allow you or the girl to discriminate between the 3 options anyway.

If you are more interested in "Other" then you could put that in your profile by saying something like "I am particularly interested in Friendship and Other activities but I am not a very romantic person"

I have just given myself an idea to modify my own profile LOL

[Superman06]

Super I think you are over-analysing the sentence "Friendship, Romance or Other" and giving the girls too much credit for reading it carefully and considering it carefully too.

As Greg L says, they don't know what "other" means, and the option does not allow you or the girl to discriminate between the 3 options anyway.

If you are more interested in "Other" then you could put that in your profile by saying something like "I am particularly interested in Friendship and Other activities but I am not a very romantic person"

I have just given myself an idea to modify my own profile LOL
You're probably right about my over-analysing. I too have been editing my profile to make it clear that I'm only looking for a short term friend to spend time with while I'm here for two weeks.

All the same DIA is amazing. I have chatted with several ladies over the past two days. Some of the scammers are a little too obvious. The advice here on what to expect and how to make best use of DIA has been more than helpful.

[Towelboy2010]

I have posted here recently asking advice on scam issues with recent Filipinas found on dating websites. To restate to readers , I am sincere in my quest to find a wife.

It turns out it really is all about the money.

This is apparent of course in the regular course of business here, but one would suppose that those women who would want real marriageable relationships would not be interested in financial gain simultaneous with finding a real husband. How naïve am I?

So, after the recent scam attempts and the requisite emotional turmoil, and on the advice of Marconista, I changed my Cherry Blossoms text introduction to a variation on his theme.
NO, I DO NOT SEND MONEY TO HEAL YOUR CARABAO OR FIX YOUR LEAKY BOAT.
I DO NOT WANT CASUAL SEX. SERIOUS relationship seekers only need reply.

I thought that my new introduction would chase away the scammers. It did indeed, but not only the scammers - all the others have vanished as well!!??? Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!

As Rubberyman's ALTERBOY found out thru SEXYBEAST - even paragons of the marriageable Filipina are seducible - presumably in return for some financial compensation.
My experience would seem to support Rubberyman's conclusion, that "just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK".

Oh well, I have to go now and start bailing as I try to fix MY leaky boat.

What a world, what a world.

Bob

[Superman06]

...Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!
...

Bob
So, what do you want? Quantity or Quality? Do you want 8 to 12 bull Sh*t messages from scammers or one quality message every three days? Hmmm...
Quality doesn't come in high volume.

[GregLondon]

You're probably right about my over-analysing. I too have been editing my profile to make it clear that I'm only looking for a short term friend to spend time with while I'm here for two weeks.

All the same DIA is amazing. I have chatted with several ladies over the past two days. Some of the scammers are a little too obvious. The advice here on what to expect and how to make best use of DIA has been more than helpful.


Another free site that some guys have found very useful is person.com it is focussed on web cams I find it overcomplicated and never really got the hang of it, but an ozzie guy i met generated alot of hot contacts on it as well as lots of cam fun

[Towelboy2010]

Hey there Superman. All that I wrote was just an observation. I would much rather have 1 real message than an inbox full of BS. In fact that was my intent, I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.

Bob



So, what do you want? Quantity or Quality? Do you want 8 to 12 bull Sh*t messages from scammers or one quality message every three days? Hmmm...
Quality doesn't come in high volume.

[Jambo]

I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.
I think you just come across as an untrusting psycho hater. Just like the girls who put in "DONT MSG ME IF ALL YOU WANT IS SEX!"

I am sure there are independent girls who want a nice husband with no intent to provide support to family. There may even be 10 or 20 in the country. lol Not really, I saw on the theworldoffilipinas forum a poll that suggested about 10% or so of fhil-am couples did not send any money home. (but maybe she does anyway directly from her own bank account)

If you are sincere, maybe try a more sincere approach. Look at what some girls put. Thinks like, "I am sincerely looking for my soulmate"

[Escort Fan]

I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.

[Superman06]

Hey there Superman. All that I wrote was just an observation. I would much rather have 1 real message than an inbox full of BS. In fact that was my intent, I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.
Bob
Well Bob, I've also gotten a real drop in messages. Unlike you I'm just looking for a few short time "friends". I edit my intro on a daily basis and make it clearer with each edit what I am seeking. I may be too clear. I probably need to pull back a bit. I think for them saving face is everything.

BTW I hope you don't think I was breaking your balls, because I wasn't. I think your taking the right path for finding a life long partner. Good luck in your quest.

[Marconista]

@Towelboy
One reason of the decline in messages is that when you are new on DiA, there will be a "new"-sign on your profile when the ladies do their searching. After some days (I dont know how many days) the sign will disappear, making you a regular (or pro if u like), hence not that interesting to the scammers that are looking for fresh meat.

My only problem now will be that the ladies will ask if I have several profiles in DiA because of you he he he... I will deny until hell freezes, and say someone must have stolen my line :D



I thought that my new introduction would chase away the scammers. It did indeed, but not only the scammers - all the others have vanished as well!!??? Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!

Bob

[Red Kilt]

I have recently been writing to the ones who say "married or attached". Their profiles say looking for "friends only" but I find it interesting that they are on a site like DIA and looking for men friends.

I am currently chatting with a very pretty 40 yo who claims to be "happily married". I actually met her in a somewhat clandestine meeting 2 weeks ago in a fancy restaurant, chosen by her as she felt that none of her friends would see her with another guy. She was nervous and had to be home by 9pm as her hubby works until 9 pm. Nothing happened at all during the dinner, but since then she has been sending me lots of messages offline and we have chatted a few times too. She is asking when I will visit her city again as she hopes we can meet again.

It is very interesting to me. When we chat she keeps saying how much she enjoys our chats but around 9pm she always has to end the chat because "Sorry - my hubby is home now so I have to go". She is a nice person and we get on very well, and she has told me how her hubby is her childhood sweetheart since she was 16 and he is the only boyfriend and lover that she has ever had.

I suspect that she is torn between being a good and faithful wife and having a last fling before she gets much older, and she is curious to sample another guy too. She also knows that I am divorced, yet she still keeps in touch with me and is now starting to make flirtatious comments about our next meeting follwed by the usual "hahaha" or LOL as though it is a joke but I know she is not really joking. At some stage soon I will increase the tempo and start making specific comments about the next meeting and ask her to arrange to stay out longer and not have to rush home. The option of a daytime meeting is also "on the table".

I have been long and detailed in this post to show you that "married or attached" women on a dating site will always want to appear as though they just want "friends" but they must be missing something in their lives if they are on DIA. I have 2 others on the chat list too - one is very keen to meet but in a more difficult city to reach (for me anyway) and cannot travel to meet me, and the other one is in the early stages of contact.

I will keep you updated.

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[Sammon]

I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.
You made a newbie mistake. You can easily meet many girls for casual date if you are ready to spend money. But the main purpose of searching for atleast most of us is to get sex from non-working girls.
I have been successfull in getting laid few times although some are only ready to meet for casual date. It is always better to ask if they are willing to stay with you in the hotel. If they say yes it will mean sex.
It is impossible to distinguish sophisticated girls and others. If you are looking for a steady relationship it is not easy to find a good girl in DIA because irrespective of what they say it is difficult to find out their past.

[Escort Fan]

You made a newbie mistake. You can easily meet many girls for casual date if you are ready to spend money. But the main purpose of searching for atleast most of us is to get sex from non-working girls.

I have been successfull in getting laid few times although some are only ready to meet for casual date. It is always better to ask if they are willing to stay with you in the hotel. If they say yes it will mean sex.

It is impossible to distinguish sophisticated girls and others. If you are looking for a steady relationship it is not easy to find a good girl in DIA because irrespective of what they say it is difficult to find out their past.She wasn't "working girl" as in escort or prostitute. She was a curious girl not in need of money. (or at least it seems I don't know many WG's who have an executive job, a classy sense of fashion, own a car, and rent a descent condo in makati).

You ask girl if she's ok to stay at the hotel before meeting her?

A girl that promises to fuck with a guy based on a small pic from DIA and 3 messages exchanged must be desperate, can we only score desperate girls?:)

On a side note tonight many girls in burgos told me they are on DIA and FH so what's the point of scoring them online rather than picking them up on location! (except saving the BF cost!).

[GregLondon]

I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.


Each of us is probably looking for something slightly different in terms of type of girl / ease with which sex happens / time frame etc

The type of girl that i tend to target is 18-25, college student, had a few phil BFs but maybe no or just one or two foreign guys. I like girls I feel I can trust and have decent conversations with and who are not looking for a LTR with me but rather to gain experience/ earn a little cash. Ideally I like girls who are willing to play with other girls as well as me.

Of course each one is different, but i find that this type of girl can become a genuine friend as well as sexual partner and give real sex which she enjoys as much as me. Very different from the typical bar girl experience.

Before meeting i try and find out A) whether she looks good enough through pics cam /tagged/friendster pics etc B) whether she has had a baby C) whether she is open minded enough to visit me at my hotel and if we like each other have sex and whether she finds my "high sex drive" a problem or not D) that she is clear I'm looking for a fun friends and not a serious GF/wife

My strategy is to say let's meet up at my hotel and see how we get on and then if we get on well then yes we can go out to dinner /order some food. of course in the west one would expect to wine and dine a girl before fucking her but this is the Phils - different rules apply - and for the vast majority of DIA girls a pizza or Jollybees is a treat a 6000P meal is a ludicrous luxury

[Robbaf]

I have a friend who met a girl in Cebu on DIA and she is a good 8 in looks and non-pro (:D) He has been seeing and supporting her for two months. He likes to have one girl and he is happy with supporting one girl. He told me yesterday that he had to break it off because he found out that she is married and living with her husband:( and yet she would stay up to three days with him when he went to Cebu (last month 4 visits).

OIP
Robb

[Yella Man]

I have a friend who met a girl in Cebu on DIA and she is a good 8 in looks and non-pro (:D) He has been seeing and supporting her for two months. He likes to have one girl and he is happy with supporting one girl. He told me yesterday that he had to break it off because he found out that she is married and living with her husband:( and yet she would stay up to three days with him when he went to Cebu (last month 4 visits).

OIP
Robb


Hahaha... nothing surprises me about them Pinas anymore!

YM

[Vittu]

Escort Fan -- What a marvelous story about the executive lady. I envy you. Now there is some mystery in the air: will the boy pursue/get the girl or what happens? This is priceless, worth much more as an experience than a couple of expensive meals.
Our hobby being what it is make us lose our innocence, just like bar girls do the longer are in the business. So see where this will take you. Nice to hear about human moments.

[Escort Fan]

Escort Fan. What a marvelous story about the executive lady. I envy you. Now there is some mystery in the air: will the boy pursue/get the girl or what happens? This is priceless, worth much more as an experience than a couple of expensive meals.

Our hobby being what it is make us lose our innocence, just like bar girls do the longer are in the business. So see where this will take you. Nice to hear about human moments.After Boracay I will return to Manila and book another lady and will report!

Well I got blueballed as my american friend would say, but I have no regrets it was certainly an interesting evening from a sociologial point of view even though I would understand sociology might not be everyone's cup of tea.

[Superman06]

I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)

[Chocha Monger]

I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)
Sticking to bar fines and avoiding aggressive DIA chicks is not a bad idea. When chicks want to meet you at the airport, know what flight you're on and what hotel you'll be staying at it is a clear indication of intentions to control your wallet and eliminate any possibility of other girls snatching what to them is a prize pig flush with foreign currency. Many will offer to be your "tour guide" in an attempt to monopolize your every waking hour and suck up as much cash as possible. Remember in this hobby you pay them to leave after you fuck them. If you get into the girlfriend game they'll try to keep you to themselves for the entire trip which defeats the purpose of making a 23 hour mongering run.

[Robbaf]

Sticking to bar fines and avoiding aggressive DIA chicks is not a bad idea. When chicks want to meet you at the airport, know what flight you're on and what hotel you'll be staying at it is a clear indication of intentions to control your wallet and eliminate any possibility of other girls snatching what to them is a prize pig flush with foreign currency. Many will offer to be your "tour guide" in an attempt to monopolize your every waking hour and suck up as much cash as possible. Remember in this hobby you pay them to leave after you fuck them. If you get into the girlfriend game they'll try to keep you to themselves for the entire trip which defeats the purpose of making a 23 hour mongering run.
CM, very well said!

Robb

[Finrod]

DIA is still ok for chasing pussy. But ... you are in charge of who you meet and when, not them. If a girl wants to meet me at the airport, I always move on to the next one, I don't care how hot that one is, I won't go along with her program. I do not like to tell DIA girls what hotel I'm staying at, I may give the general area it is in, but no more than that until I've met them somewhere else.

[Puerto La Cruz]

DIA is still ok for chasing pussy. But ... you are in charge of who you meet and when, not them. If a girl wants to meet me at the airport, I always move on to the next one, I don't care how hot that one is, I won't go along with her program. I do not like to tell DIA girls what hotel I'm staying at, I may give the general area it is in, but no more than that until I've met them somewhere else.

Excellent judgment. You are in control, not them by any means. The only person that meets me at the airport is the taxi. My program or nobody's program. Its my ball and if I can't pitch, I don't play.

[X Man]

You've already rec'd some good tips -- Finrod especially. CM sounds a bit bitter. You may meet a woman like he describes, but you'll also meet some real sweeties.

Here is what I do regarding arrival date: Give an arrival date a bit later than your actual plan. Then if you contact them earlier than expected, explain that you were able to get an earlier flight. White lie?

Hotel: Ask them for their recommendation. They'll usually suggest the most expensive place in town. Then say that you can't afford it. That will lower their expectations. Unlike some of the other guys, I do like to meet them at my hotel lobby -- especially when it's a nicer place. (Did I just contradict myself?) You might even find some quick excuse to go up to your room before your date begins. "I want to get my camera. It'll only take a minute. Come with me." Then, do what you told her you would do -- just grab the camera.* This creates TRUST. Then, later, when you invite her to your room you'll be less likely to set off warning signals.

*Of course if she immediately jumps on the bed to test it out, you might consider plan B.

I prefer the hotel because sometimes they arrive much later than expected, so I want to be somewhere comfortable if I have a long wait. The mall is another choice.

Other tips about meeting --Don't be tempted to go to their place unless you have a good reason for doing so. Some guys insist that the gal comes alone, but I think you scare some away with that. I usually ask if they will come alone. If they want to bring a friend, I might say, "okay, but only if she's cute like you." After that type of exchange I've had a few end up coming alone.

You should reconfirm a meeting appointment -- especially the first one. They can be pretty thick in the head when it comes to this. I once had a no-show from a gal who blamed me because I hadn't reconfirmed -- despite the fact that she didn't have a cell phone. The date was set up by email, just before my flight. Duh.

If I'm attracted to her, I might try some light touching to see how she reacts. It's best not to do this where others are watching.

Lastly, I no longer even consider the 7th Day Adventists gals after a few bad experiences. Has anyone had luck with these types?

X





I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)

[Yella Man]

Lastly, I no longer even consider the 7th Day Adventists gals after a few bad experiences. Has anyone had luck with these types?

X

I got lucky with one in Davao two trips ago. Had her panties off on the second date. It was a lot of work and really cut down on my other opportunities.

YM

[GregLondon]

You've already rec'd some good tips -- Finrod especially. CM sounds a bit bitter. You may meet a woman like he describes, but you'll also meet some real sweeties.

Here is what I do regarding arrival date: Give an arrival date a bit later than your actual plan. Then if you contact them earlier than expected, explain that you were able to get an earlier flight. White lie?

Hotel: Ask them for their recommendation. They'll usually suggest the most expensive place in town. Then say that you can't afford it. That will lower their expectations. Unlike some of the other guys, I do like to meet them at my hotel lobby -- especially when it's a nicer place. (Did I just contradict myself?) You might even find some quick excuse to go up to your room before your date begins. "I want to get my camera. It'll only take a minute. Come with me." Then, do what you told her you would do -- just grab the camera.* This creates TRUST. Then, later, when you invite her to your room you'll be less likely to set off warning signals.

*Of course if she immediately jumps on the bed to test it out, you might consider plan B.

I prefer the hotel because sometimes they arrive much later than expected, so I want to be somewhere comfortable if I have a long wait. The mall is another choice.

Other tips about meeting --Don't be tempted to go to their place unless you have a good reason for doing so. Some guys insist that the gal comes alone, but I think you scare some away with that. I usually ask if they will come alone. If they want to bring a friend, I might say, "okay, but only if she's cute like you." After that type of exchange I've had a few end up coming alone.

You should reconfirm a meeting appointment -- especially the first one. They can be pretty thick in the head when it comes to this. I once had a no-show from a gal who blamed me because I hadn't reconfirmed -- despite the fact that she didn't have a cell phone. The date was set up by email, just before my flight. Duh.

If I'm attracted to her, I might try some light touching to see how she reacts. It's best not to do this where others are watching.

Lastly, I no longer even consider the 7th Day Adventists gals after a few bad experiences. Has anyone had luck with these types?

X


My policy on the bring a friend question is ! to insist that the friend is 100% female - it's always trouble and often big trouble if they bring a gay/lb friend. 2 I usually ask if the friend is open minded and willing to have sex too. I've got a 25 year old wanting to come and see me these next few days at first she wanted to being her cousin and a friend who she said i could fuck as well but they are 34/30 so too old for me, now she has russelled up another cousin 21 who looks great in her pics. The only sticking doing at the moment is that they want to meet at the mall rather than a my hotel and as X Man says this is a recipe for having to wait around for an hour. She was talking about needing 1000P for shopping (she says she will stay all night, so I've agreed 1500P for the 2 girls all night. Usually the girls will give a discount if you take more than 1. Shes a DIA girl seems to live in a decent place with her own laptop Showed me her naked body on can so shouldn't be too many surprises. The other issue is that the two college girls I had last night (friends of former DIA contact) are supposed to be coming around for a repeat performance of a pretty full on threesome (they had secretly fancied each other for many years apparently, but this was the first time they had kissed and licked each other. They are 2 beautiful 21 year olds from good families but are pretty open minded and take a more the merrier approach to me inviting other girls. One way or another it should be a good night.

[Radical Guy]

I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)In my experience, when a babe wants to meet you at the airport, this may be a good thing. She wants to "take possession" of you right away to make sure no other woman can get her hands on you. If you play your cards right, and find someone real hot, you can bet that she wants to stay at the hotel with you and fuck your brains out. She is motivated to keep you happy, lest you dump her and move on.

If you are interested in banging as many *****s as possible, then yes, barfining is the way to go. But if you are looking for a real GFE, then submit a bit to the girl's aggressiveness. She will more likely treat you like a here one and only, rather than simply a customer.

[X Man]

THanks for the alternate opinion. The only time I met a gal at the airport is when I flew her in from Manila to Cebu, but then I already knew she was hot and ready for some good lovin'.

You have a good point, but my life became much easier after I stopped allowing women to dictate their terms. My way or the highway...says X Man, who usually rides a bicycle. ;-)

There is a certain aggresiveness about many Filipinas...is it a matriarchial society? Oh, about twenty years ago when I was dating Filiipinas almost my age I had an accountant (for a large corportation) gf who verbally tore into a taxi driver who had tried to rip us off with a broken / hidden meter. She scared the hell out of me almost as much as the snarky little taxi driver. Flor...I wonder what ever happened to her.

I've gone off on a tagent, but RG, maybe you have too! If a girl has what you want, and is also intelligent and knows here stuff, I admit that letting her call the shots can be quite fun and relaxing and rewarding. But you seem to suggest the opposite is to "bang as many ? as possible". That probably isn't what you meant.

A lot depends on the situation / situations. Which, of course, is why we see so many different opinions being bandied about.

X



In my experience, when a babe wants to meet you at the airport, this may be a good thing. She wants to "take possession" of you right away to make sure no other woman can get her hands on you. If you play your cards right, and find someone real hot, you can bet that she wants to stay at the hotel with you and fuck your brains out. She is motivated to keep you happy, lest you dump her and move on.

If you are interested in banging as many *****s as possible, then yes, barfining is the way to go. But if you are looking for a real GFE, then submit a bit to the girl's aggressiveness. She will more likely treat you like a here one and only, rather than simply a customer.

[Radical Guy]

THanks for the alternate opinion. The only time I met a gal at the airport is when I flew her in from Manila to Cebu, but then I already knew she was hot and ready for some good lovin'.

You have a good point, but my life became much easier after I stopped allowing women to dictate their terms. My way or the highway. Says X Man, who usually rides a bicycle.

There is a certain aggresiveness about many Filipinas. Is it a matriarchial society? Oh, about twenty years ago when I was dating Filiipinas almost my age I had an accountant (for a large corportation) gf who verbally tore into a taxi driver who had tried to rip us off with a broken / hidden meter. She scared the hell out of me almost as much as the snarky little taxi driver. Flor. I wonder what ever happened to her.

I've gone off on a tagent, but RG, maybe you have too! If a girl has what you want, and is also intelligent and knows here stuff, I admit that letting her call the shots can be quite fun and relaxing and rewarding. But you seem to suggest the opposite is to "bang as many? As possible". That probably isn't what you meant.

A lot depends on the situation / situations. Which, of course, is why we see so many different opinions being bandied about.

XI should add that I am a "retired" monger. I finally found the one for me and married her, and never regreted it for even a minute. But even when I was playing the field there, I preferred to have a nice time with a very few special ladies for no less than 3-4 days each, or perhaps even a week if she was extra special.

I never promised a lady that I would marry her (other than the one I did marry), but I also would not tell her that marriage was not a possibility. Thus, most women (not P4P) would do everything they could to make me fall in love with them. I had 2 or 3 girls insist on giving me their virginity, satisfied with just the chance that I would ultimately want to marry them. Yes, some may have had their hearts broken when I finally moved on, but they knew the score from the beginning.

Of course, given the fact that most ladies believed that I *might* be inclined to walk down the isle with them, they were very possessive and jealous of anyone who might try to get my attention. I dunno, but I found this level of possessiveness sort of a turn-on. For the most part, I found the ladies to be sexually aggressive, often to the point of me telling them "Enough! I need some sleep. " When a Filipina thinks you may be husband material, I found that they are not quite so insistant on milking you financially in the short term, though I tend to be rather generous in this regard.

Anyway, allowing a girl to meet me at the airport is part of my fantasy of being her "property" for awhile, and her personal plaything at the hotel. Personally, back in my monger days, I found this much more exciting than having sex with women who were simply "for hire. "

Just my 2 cents worth. No offense to anyone who prefers the straight P4P scenario.

RG

[Pimpster]

I have recently been writing to the ones who say "married or attached". Their profiles say looking for "friends only" but I find it interesting that they are on a site like DIA and looking for men friends.

I am currently chatting with a very pretty 40 yo who claims to be "happily married". I actually met her in a somewhat clandestine meeting 2 weeks ago in a fancy restaurant, chosen by her as she felt that none of her friends would see her with another guy. She was nervous and had to be home by 9pm as her hubby works until 9 pm. Nothing happened at all during the dinner, but since then she has been sending me lots of messages offline and we have chatted a few times too. She is asking when I will visit her city again as she hopes we can meet again.

It is very interesting to me. When we chat she keeps saying how much she enjoys our chats but around 9pm she always has to end the chat because "Sorry - my hubby is home now so I have to go". She is a nice person and we get on very well, and she has told me how her hubby is her childhood sweetheart since she was 16 and he is the only boyfriend and lover that she has ever had.

I suspect that she is torn between being a good and faithful wife and having a last fling before she gets much older, and she is curious to sample another guy too. She also knows that I am divorced, yet she still keeps in touch with me and is now starting to make flirtatious comments about our next meeting follwed by the usual "hahaha" or LOL as though it is a joke but I know she is not really joking. At some stage soon I will increase the tempo and start making specific comments about the next meeting and ask her to arrange to stay out longer and not have to rush home. The option of a daytime meeting is also "on the table".

I have been long and detailed in this post to show you that "married or attached" women on a dating site will always want to appear as though they just want "friends" but they must be missing something in their lives if they are on DIA. I have 2 others on the chat list too - one is very keen to meet but in a more difficult city to reach (for me anyway) and cannot travel to meet me, and the other one is in the early stages of contact.

I will keep you updated.

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Is there a point to your relationship with this woman? She kills lonely hours with you and gets you to take her to expensive places that she can't afford. You get no sex, while she screwing her husband? We are talking about the filipines right? Why are you doing this to yourself, and for a 40 year old woman. This is something men are suppose to do over there to women not the other way around.

[Pimpster]

I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.


If she in her early 30's that doesn't need money. what does this girl do exactly? I doubt it if she an exec in terms of what we have in the states and the level of pay isn't the same as what you may assume. She may come from family with deep pockets.

Girls tend to fall into the simple or the sophisticated "even if they aren't and can't afford to be" The simple one will tell you something like " anything is fine" if you ask them what they want to go and eat etc... the so call sophisticated one will of course recommend only the best even though she never been there before and could never afford to go there on her own, just to get a free meal from you. I know it sounds cheesy, but its like asking for a nice car and getting it for free why not. You can find educated girls who are much more down to earth especially in their 30's. These have been a lot economically and may have problems with bf and will be more likely down to earth. If you have a chance to go and check out your girls living arrangements I suspect that you may be in for a shock, since you wouldn't expect an exec to be living that way. I don't mean to imply that she lives in a dump, but probably not high end as what one would think an exec would be living in. Also 6000 peso for dinner ahemmm while you can down play it by saying its not even a 100 euro , may i remind you that the average filipino makes about 100 dollars a month! I know a filipina making a so call good living make 200 dollars a month. I doubt she has even been where you took her unless it was on someone else's dime. Spending 6000 peso for dinner for 2 over, is a huge amount for 99% of the pop, hell its a pretty penny even over here just for a date. No offense, but spending that much money for conversation is like one of those telephone sex operator lines where you pay large sums of money to talk to supposedly hot girls over the phone. In both cases its better to save your money and o get laid from a working girl.

[Red Kilt]

Is there a point to your relationship with this woman? She kills lonely hours with you and gets you to take her to expensive places that she can't afford. You get no sex, while she screwing her husband? We are talking about the filipines right? Why are you doing this to yourself, and for a 40 year old woman. This is something men are suppose to do over there to women not the other way around.

Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.

Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.

That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.

[X Man]

Great to hear that there was a happy ending. I once had the pleasure of a upper mid class Filipina -- in her 30s.

On our first date, the chemistry was right. No doubt about that. But she wouldn't do it on the first date. I was pretty disappointed, and wondered if I should cut my losses.

No problem, her driver dropped her off about noon the next day and we were buck naked about 30 min later. There was only about 12 hours difference, but technically it WAS the second date. The wait was worth it....X

Come to think of it, I've never had to wait, nor bothered to wait, for a 3rd date in the Philippines.

This may be common sense, but if one wants to give a woman a between-the-leg-urge, just send this text about an hour after she leaves. "I miss you already...blah, blah..."

Thanks for the posts Red...umm..Kilt


She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history.

SNIP

That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.

[Yella Man]

Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.

Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.

That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.

I have to agree with Pimpster on this one. If I wanna screw 40 year olds, I dont have to fly to the Philippines to do it. They're a dime a dozen in America. Twenty year olds are much more delicious and supple! Take heed of a post by Robbaf recently about his friend who was dating a girl who was married and living with her husband, but never told his friend about it. Filipinas will always have the upper hand in any kind of relationship because they tell us stuff that we want to believe is true, and our little head below will believe damn near anything. But a 40ish filipina has much more experience dealing with men than your average 20 year old, and will be more attentive to your needs giving you a better GF experience and making you believe you're special. I'm not busting balls, just making a few observations is all.

YM

[X Man]

When is the last time a 20 yr old got out of (her) bed, kissed you good bye, and then went off to her high profile job -- on the way instructing her maid to cook you eggs and her driver to get you to the airport in time for your flight.

But yea, those twentish lasses are sure fine to look at...and photograph.

twentyish? --- where is Warbucks with his damn dictionary! :-)

As for the Robbaf story, was that an older woman? I don't remember that. When I read the story I couldn't help wonder if the husband knew and approved the situation.

I once found a rather cute street walker in Davao who nonchalantly told me that she needed to get home to her bf...and yes, he knew what her p/t job was. I told her to invite him over so that he could take the pictures, but she didn't think that was a very good idea. Of course neither did I, but it was fun to see her reaction. X



I have to agree with Pimpster on this one. If I wanna screw 40 year olds, I dont have to fly to the Philippines to do it. They're a dime a dozen in America. Twenty year olds are much more delicious and supple! Take heed of a post by Robbaf recently about his friend who was dating a girl who was married and living with her husband,
SNIP
YM

[X Man]

i am simple and nice woman looking for a good and nice man...

** Okay, you've heard that before. Now if you really want to visit her profile at DIA....

...let me give you her handle...

... are you ready for this???...

"fuckingshit"

Yep, you can be sure this is a really 'nice' one.

GregLondon, I'll leave it up to you to do your community service and help this gal clean up her message. X

[Pimpster]

Sure a good meal is going to cost you, but i assume she suggested the place because the guy is a newbie, so what are the chances that this girl frequents the place. We've all had girls suggested the most upscale hotels restaurants etc... even though its clear they haven''t ever set foot in the place before. You never ever let the girl make the call how things are going to be. I assume that the goal is to get laid.


"I had really a good time".

All the rest is bulhot.

And even though income in the Phils might be low. A good dinner for two will cost you 6000 pesos in any upmarket restaurant.

If you can afford it enjoy it.

Thanks for sharing. Real uplifting report on DIA. Don't see that many here.

[Pimpster]

Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.

Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.

That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.

I agree that there are some older women over there that are truly hot even when you compared it younger women, granted this is hard to find imho. No offense how many times have guys on here say that because they can afford to. Most of us can afford to, but if you are hunting are you the hunter or the pray. Guys who support women over there with large sums of money only later to ***** that she had a pinoy bf or that she had another guy sending her money. I'm sure they can afford to, but sooner or later from my experience and other members the smart ones will string you along and then come up with i m pregnant or death in the family need money sort of thing for a quick pay day. In the end its your life and you have the right what to do with it, but you may want to take into consideration what many of us have learned the hard way to prevent yourself from feeling used later on.

[Pimpster]

When is the last time a 20 yr old got out of (her) bed, kissed you good bye, and then went off to her high profile job -- on the way instructing her maid to cook you eggs and her driver to get you to the airport in time for your flight.

But yea, those twentish lasses are sure fine to look at...and photograph.

twentyish? --- where is Warbucks with his damn dictionary! :-)

As for the Robbaf story, was that an older woman? I don't remember that. When I read the story I couldn't help wonder if the husband knew and approved the situation.

I once found a rather cute street walker in Davao who nonchalantly told me that she needed to get home to her bf...and yes, he knew what her p/t job was. I told her to invite him over so that he could take the pictures, but she didn't think that was a very good idea. Of course neither did I, but it was fun to see her reaction. X

This all depends most 20year old are poor as dirt no question about that most 40 year olds are poor as dirt to. I haven't met many hot 40 something exec with a maid. As far as being sweet and attentive to your needs? I will have to say that its a crap shoot, both 40 and 20 year olds will treat you like crap and the reverse is true. 20 year old can be very loving etc.. especially if they don't have a lot of experience with guys come from the province. Its a natural thing for pinay to be jealous of other girls so they try their best to screw your brains out take care of you etc... they probably have never been treated so well. When an american goes to PI with is dollars its like tiger woods status. I gave a girl a bar of Dove soap once and she was sooooooooooooo greatful and i'n not jusgt talking about sex. Apparently,she had used it once at her well off cousin house, but could never really afford it on her own since money was tight. So it just depends, imo the girls who don't have very much will treat you like a king and be very jealous regardless of age. Girls that have been with lots of americans and come from well off families will not regardless. There always exceptions to the rules of course

[Robbaf]

As for the Robbaf story, was that an older woman? I don't remember that. When I read the story I couldn't help wonder if the husband knew and approved the situation.
She is 24 years old and he didn't ask her if her husband knew.

Robb

[Escort Fan]

Sure a good meal is going to cost you, but I assume she suggested the place because the guy is a newbie, so what are the chances that this girl frequents the place. We've all had girls suggested the most upscale hotels restaurants etc. Even though its clear they haven''t ever set foot in the place before. You never ever let the girl make the call how things are going to B. I assume that the goal is to get laid.Well actually I choose to dine at the shangri La makati, because I like it, and I wanted to give her a nice treat.

Indeed I am a newbie and I didn't get laid!

I'm going back to europe next week, so I'll try to score one last DIA meeting and see how that goes!

Getting laid would have been a nice bonus, but the point was to meet a girl with a different profile than the usual pick up from LA café or Burgos from which I've grown tired!

[Red Kilt]

Thanks for the posts Red...umm..Kilt

For X Man
Red..umm Kilt doesn't mean anything. Nothing scottish. Nothing red LOL. It was the name of a good racehorse that my Dad and I owned many years ago. Just seemed like a good name.

Having cleared that up.... Thanks for your posts X Man. You write well and you usually make a lot of sense. Most of your posts have good information.
I agree about the older women being a good experience but be assured Pimpster, they are not manipulating me. Absolutely NO strings, by mutual agreement, and it is merely a "rocks-off" arrangement. I have lived and worked in Manila for 13 years now, so I am battle-scarred and savvy about every trick in the book that can be pulled.

[Red Kilt]

i am simple and nice woman looking for a good and nice man...

** Okay, you've heard that before. Now if you really want to visit her profile at DIA....

...let me give you her handle...

... are you ready for this???...

"fuckingshit"

Yep, you can be sure this is a really 'nice' one.



Haha this is a classic.

So many contradictory profiles and handles and photos on DIA.

I love the women who say they are "simple, God-fearing, one-man woman, wholesome ...etc" and looking for an "honest.sincere, trustworthy family man..etc" and then they post a photo with the sexy pose and 3/4 of their boobs hanging out to hook anyone who passes by.
They just do not see the contradiction here nor the message they are sending.
X Man's example above is another instance of this naivety

[FreebieFan]

Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.

Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.

Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.

That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.Hi. Well having a daughter who is in late teens I totally understand the posted comment. I realised that slowly but surely my agre requirement is getting older. Probalby for the fact that I also don't want anyone younger than my daughter.

Was in BKK reccently (report posted) and had 3 freebies, one 30, one 32 and one 36. Two were interested in 3 somes (which I will sort out on nexct trip there, two were happy to bang next to hotel windows allowing the voyeurs lots of thrills, and all were hot and wonderfully inhibited, but experienced in what a man wants. Sometimes older is most definately better. Having said that theres a 20 year old Filipina virgin I'm hoping to have on my next trip. Its good to be flexible LOL

[X Man]

"Make sense?"

Stop dude, you're going to totally ruin my reputation. Some ISG members have spent years painting me black, you shouldn't make their hard work for nought.

Oh, wait..he adds words like "usually" and "most". A lot of room for retraction...bless RedKilt's heart.

Thirteen years, but I doubt you are savvy about every trick in the book.

Maybe you should write, "...ALMOST every trick in the book."


X



For X Man

SNIP
X Man. You write well and you usually make a lot of sense. Most of your posts have good information.
I agree about the older women being a good experience but be assured Pimpster, they are not manipulating me. Absolutely NO strings, by mutual agreement, and it is merely a "rocks-off" arrangement. I have lived and worked in Manila for 13 years now, so I am battle-scarred and savvy about every trick in the book that can be pulled.

[Manta Ray]

in the past few months living in manila, i’ve met quite a few gals on dia. they all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. all of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). a few live fairly central (mandaluyong, pasay, paranaque) and a few live further afield (caloocan, cavite, novaliches).

when i meet a dia gal for a first date, i enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry. with that in mind, i invite the gal for a drink and/or dinner, in a nice, ‘upmarket’ place, eg greenbelt or the fort. perhaps this is not necessary, given the socio-economic group of the typical dia gal we mongers tend to target, but it is more in keeping with my style and comfort zone.

to be sure, the specific details of my dia first dates do vary, and, believe me, i’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters. however, a fairly typical first date goes something like this:

after numerous texts back and forth to confirm the meeting time and place, and to find out where the hell she is (yes, she is usually late!), she shows up within 45 minutes of the agreed upon time. we spot each other, and i introduce myself, shake her hand, and make a mental note of how accurate her dia profile photo is. i decide that while her photo does indeed put her in ‘best light’, she is attractive and slim enough to warrant at least one nice evening together.

we order drinks and settle into the usual get-to-know-you sequence of topics and questions. i show interest in her work, family and hobbies, asking lots of questions. i am mildly, though not aggressively, flirtatious--especially if i want to get to know her, er… more intimately.

eventually i suggest we have something to eat—and i encourage her to order whatever she wants (another mental note if she decides to order the most expensive dish on the menu). we eat, and i engage her in more talking, more topics, more flirting, and a little ‘innocent’ touching… the knee, the shoulder, the arm… just to let her know i’m interested.

a few hours pass pleasantly… a bottle of wine and/or a few san migs do their work. it gets toward the witching hour and i suggest we go back to my condo in makati for a coffee. she hesitates slightly, then says something like, ‘well, ok a coffee is nice.’ we head off for a taxi, and i take her hand as we walk.

i sit close to her in the taxi and ever so gently rest my hand on her knee. we get to my place… and as we enter the lobby of my bldg i hold her hand very firmly; i want her to feel like my gf in the gaze of the bldg security lads. walking toward the elevator, i make it a point to chat with her casually, as if we both live there. i avoid direct eye contact with the lads in the lobby—who have seen me do the same dance with several other gals in the past couple of months. we get to my unit on the 38th floor and i enjoy the widening of her eyes as she steps in the door and is greeted by the twinkling makati skyline. i beckon her to the balcony, open the door and we step out to embrace the night view. i point out a few of the makati landmarks. i can see she is impressed, and this is good.

back inside, i tell her to have a seat on the sofa while i make some coffee. i turn on the tv, give her the remote wand and tell her to turn on whatever she wants. i don’t particularly want to watch tv, but it's a simple way for us to get close and cuddly, while still having a comfy external focus. i bring the coffee, with some chocolate—a sure entry into the filipina heart—and sit myself down next to her! we pretend to watch tv and little by little we reposition so it’s easy for her to rest her head on my shoulder, which, after a little while, she does. i stroke her shoulder and/or knee ever so gently… we’re becoming very relaxed.

by this time, it is quite late and i am (sort of) getting tired. i silently contemplate how to broach the obvious next topic. then i let out a thinly veiled yawn, followed by something like, ‘hmmm, it’s getting late and you look so tired. you’re very welcome to spend the night here rather than try to get a taxi at this late hour… don’t worry, you can sleep on my bed and i’ll take the sofa… really, it’s no problem for me, and you can be comfortable that way.’

she furrows her brow and doesn’t answer immediately… then says, unconvincingly, something like, ‘no, you need your sleep in your bed… you can sleep now and i just rest a little on the sofa. it’s ok, i just go home in a few hours, no problem for me.’ i tell her that as a gentleman, i couldn’t allow that… she must have the bed so she can rest more comfortably. we go back and forth a bit until, predictably, i give in. i invite her to use the bathroom. while she is in the bathroom, i make up the sofa with sheets and a pillow, then remove any ‘valuables’ (wallet, laptop, ipod, phone, etc.) putting them in a ‘safe’ place in my bedroom closet (yes, of course, i trust her, but as the arabs say, ‘trust in god, but tether your camel first’).

she comes out of the bathroom and is impressed that the sofa is so nicely made up for her. i kiss her on the cheek, tell her to help herself to anything in the fridge during the night and wish her ‘sweet dreams. i go into my bedroom, but leave the door open. she is no doubt confused as she’s not used to such courteous behavior from a man.

i change into a pair of shorts (no underwear and no shirt), put two condoms discreetly under a book on my bedside table (i want to make it easy when the inevitable happens), get into bed and turn out the light.

after about 45 minutes, i hear a rustle of sheets in the other room, a few soft footsteps and then see her silhouette as she comes into my room, fully clothed. she says something like, ‘i’m scared there by myself’ and lies down on the bed a ‘safe’ distance from me. i gently reach over, touch her cheek, say sleep well, and make no attempt to move closer to her… yet.

we feign sleep, with each toss and turn, somehow bringing us a bit closer to each other. i lightly drape my arm over her hip; she edges over toward me and allows her hand to touch my leg. we enjoy this slumberous dance silently for a while longer. eventually, we’re spooning snugly, with my arm wrapped over her and my hand lightly resting on her breast.

i gently kiss her neck, and she moans softly while allowing her bum to press against my now rising manhood. she turns her face toward me and our lips seem to be almost touching now. i offer a brief kiss, a peck really, half on her mouth and half on her cheek. then our mouths open and we kiss again. our tongues meet, and our legs entwine. clothes come off quickly, and from this point, all is predictably passionate. i selflessly extend the foreplay to pleasure her as long as it takes to get her where i want her, and then a little longer. when the moment of entry arrives, she attempts to guide me in uncovered (yes, in my experience non p4p gals are more likely to go bb), until i, as smoothly as possible, halt the proceedings briefly to cover up. all is then well.

we sleep soundly until the stirrings of daylight, then we undulate into round two… in similar fashion as in round one, minus the extended foreplay.

i get up first, have a shower, wrap a towel around me, and make a pot of tea. she is still asleep, so i whisper in her ear ‘magandang umaga’, wait for her to open her eyes and show some life, then hand her a steaming mug, black with sugar. once again, she is impressed at the thoughtful service. and though it is truly a pleasure for me to treat her this way, i am at least partly motivated by my desire to get her up and out of my place in good time so my whole day is not shot. as charlie sheen, the actor who was caught up in a much publicized p4p scandal, replied to a nosy reporter enquiring why he would need to pay for sex, ‘i’m not paying them for the sex, i’m paying for them to leave in the morning.’

i tell her she can have a shower, and ask her what she would like for breakfast. she at first refuses the offer, but i insist, telling her she must eat something before she goes. the choices are cereal with milk, toast and jam, eggs, and/or fruit. she opts for a slice of toast (which my informal mental survey tells me is the most common dia morning-after-first-date breakfast choice).

i make the breakfast while she showers, gets dressed, and to my non-surprise, but nonetheless delight, makes the bed herself with hotel-like precision. i thank her for that and tell her to sit down for breakfast. we chat about this and that while we eat. i tell her that it would be my pleasure to see again, but carefully avoid suggesting any specific dates.

when she’s finished, i tell her i will walk her outside to get a taxi, and as i do, i stuff a few hundred pesos into her pocket or bag and tell her this is for her to get home. she doesn’t object or refuse, and offers a simple but sincere sounding ‘thank you’.

as we leave the building through the lobby, once again, i hold her hand and talk to her casually walking past the security lads, who are mercifully different from the night before. we hail a taxi, and as she gets in, i kiss her on the cheek, and tell her to take care and keep in touch. a few minutes after i get back to my apartment i get a text from her. she thanks me for a nice night and hopes we can meet again soon. i text her back immediately, saying i hope so too.

manta ray

[X Man]

Manta Ray, if you aren't already an old fk, I'd say you have a future in writing. Well written, interesting, informative - and best of all, you got some stinky on your dinky before the story was finished!

Minor quips, I'd initiate the touching and hand holding much sooner than you suggest. Gals who react as if they had an electrical shock probably aren't worth pursuing. But, maybe that is just my own self-fulfilling prophesy.

Alcohol...hmmm, many don't drink. What do you do then? Hmmm, most don't drink coffee either.

Not mentioned, but probably on the MRay radar is how close she sits next to you in the taxi. Since MRay had casually put his hand on her knee, I'll assume that she didn't scoot over too far (assuming you both got in on the same side, which is the norm).

As for giving her the couch, I hope you take a bag of ice to cool down your hard on -- just in case she falls asleep from the alcohol.

And for newcomers who will likely be in a hotel room, you can achieve similar results -- using charm -- without a seperate room with a couch and without evening coffee.

Thanks for the interesting post MR.

[Member #4643]

,,When I meet a DIA gal for a first date, I enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry....To be sure, the specific details of my DIA first dates do vary, and, believe me, I’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters...

That was quite a description of your modus operandi! I am a little perplexed, as it seems that the entire couch scenario/you going to bed alone is entirely unnecessary if sex is your objective, because at that moment, I am certain you could start kissing her and end up in bed, but obviously you enjoy doing it this way.

I have only been to Manila once, I only had one DIA girl and she was in bed with me within a few minutes after arrival. Then again, my DIA profile states that I like having a lot of sex (its meant to intimidate the girls who are ONLY looking for a husband). Nevertheless, I had a few girls who simply were no shows, and I am certain they would have shown if I had been gentlemanly and not mentioned sex in our communications.

I am curious about your percent success: how many of these DIA girls do NOT go to bed with you on night one?

[Stroker Ace88]

In the past few months living in Manila, I’ve met quite a few gals on DIA. They all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. All of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). A few live fairly central (Mandaluyong, Pasay, Paranaque) and a few live further afield (Caloocan, Cavite, Novaliches).Manta Ray

Manta,

Correction, a call center job in the PI is one of the best and well paid jobs the average girl could hope to land and it provides alot of Pisos to support the family back in the Province. It might be low compensation compaired to western pay, but for them it is a very good job.

I also think you put too much effort into your "date", and you could get the same results without all the seduction techniques that western women require, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

A good report and an interesting change of pace.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

wowwwwwww....all that effort! i usually just ask 'em if they wanna fuck and have me blow my load all over their pretty face. gets the same result, i would expect.




in the past few months living in manila, i’ve met quite a few gals on dia. they all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. all of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). a few live fairly central (mandaluyong, pasay, paranaque) and a few live further afield (caloocan, cavite, novaliches).

when i meet a dia gal for a first date, i enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry. with that in mind, i invite the gal for a drink and/or dinner, in a nice, ‘upmarket’ place, eg greenbelt or the fort. perhaps this is not necessary, given the socio-economic group of the typical dia gal we mongers tend to target, but it is more in keeping with my style and comfort zone.

to be sure, the specific details of my dia first dates do vary, and, believe me, i’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters. however, a fairly typical first date goes something like this:

after numerous texts back and forth to confirm the meeting time and place, and to find out where the hell she is (yes, she is usually late!), she shows up within 45 minutes of the agreed upon time. we spot each other, and i introduce myself, shake her hand, and make a mental note of how accurate her dia profile photo is. i decide that while her photo does indeed put her in ‘best light’, she is attractive and slim enough to warrant at least one nice evening together.

we order drinks and settle into the usual get-to-know-you sequence of topics and questions. i show interest in her work, family and hobbies, asking lots of questions. i am mildly, though not aggressively, flirtatious--especially if i want to get to know her, er… more intimately.

eventually i suggest we have something to eat—and i encourage her to order whatever she wants (another mental note if she decides to order the most expensive dish on the menu). we eat, and i engage her in more talking, more topics, more flirting, and a little ‘innocent’ touching… the knee, the shoulder, the arm… just to let her know i’m interested.

a few hours pass pleasantly… a bottle of wine and/or a few san migs do their work. it gets toward the witching hour and i suggest we go back to my condo in makati for a coffee. she hesitates slightly, then says something like, ‘well, ok a coffee is nice.’ we head off for a taxi, and i take her hand as we walk.

i sit close to her in the taxi and ever so gently rest my hand on her knee. we get to my place… and as we enter the lobby of my bldg i hold her hand very firmly; i want her to feel like my gf in the gaze of the bldg security lads. walking toward the elevator, i make it a point to chat with her casually, as if we both live there. i avoid direct eye contact with the lads in the lobby—who have seen me do the same dance with several other gals in the past couple of months. we get to my unit on the 38th floor and i enjoy the widening of her eyes as she steps in the door and is greeted by the twinkling makati skyline. i beckon her to the balcony, open the door and we step out to embrace the night view. i point out a few of the makati landmarks. i can see she is impressed, and this is good.

back inside, i tell her to have a seat on the sofa while i make some coffee. i turn on the tv, give her the remote wand and tell her to turn on whatever she wants. i don’t particularly want to watch tv, but it's a simple way for us to get close and cuddly, while still having a comfy external focus. i bring the coffee, with some chocolate—a sure entry into the filipina heart—and sit myself down next to her! we pretend to watch tv and little by little we reposition so it’s easy for her to rest her head on my shoulder, which, after a little while, she does. i stroke her shoulder and/or knee ever so gently… we’re becoming very relaxed.

by this time, it is quite late and i am (sort of) getting tired. i silently contemplate how to broach the obvious next topic. then i let out a thinly veiled yawn, followed by something like, ‘hmmm, it’s getting late and you look so tired. you’re very welcome to spend the night here rather than try to get a taxi at this late hour… don’t worry, you can sleep on my bed and i’ll take the sofa… really, it’s no problem for me, and you can be comfortable that way.’

she furrows her brow and doesn’t answer immediately… then says, unconvincingly, something like, ‘no, you need your sleep in your bed… you can sleep now and i just rest a little on the sofa. it’s ok, i just go home in a few hours, no problem for me.’ i tell her that as a gentleman, i couldn’t allow that… she must have the bed so she can rest more comfortably. we go back and forth a bit until, predictably, i give in. i invite her to use the bathroom. while she is in the bathroom, i make up the sofa with sheets and a pillow, then remove any ‘valuables’ (wallet, laptop, ipod, phone, etc.) putting them in a ‘safe’ place in my bedroom closet (yes, of course, i trust her, but as the arabs say, ‘trust in god, but tether your camel first’).

she comes out of the bathroom and is impressed that the sofa is so nicely made up for her. i kiss her on the cheek, tell her to help herself to anything in the fridge during the night and wish her ‘sweet dreams. i go into my bedroom, but leave the door open. she is no doubt confused as she’s not used to such courteous behavior from a man.

i change into a pair of shorts (no underwear and no shirt), put two condoms discreetly under a book on my bedside table (i want to make it easy when the inevitable happens), get into bed and turn out the light.

after about 45 minutes, i hear a rustle of sheets in the other room, a few soft footsteps and then see her silhouette as she comes into my room, fully clothed. she says something like, ‘i’m scared there by myself’ and lies down on the bed a ‘safe’ distance from me. i gently reach over, touch her cheek, say sleep well, and make no attempt to move closer to her… yet.

we feign sleep, with each toss and turn, somehow bringing us a bit closer to each other. i lightly drape my arm over her hip; she edges over toward me and allows her hand to touch my leg. we enjoy this slumberous dance silently for a while longer. eventually, we’re spooning snugly, with my arm wrapped over her and my hand lightly resting on her breast.

i gently kiss her neck, and she moans softly while allowing her bum to press against my now rising manhood. she turns her face toward me and our lips seem to be almost touching now. i offer a brief kiss, a peck really, half on her mouth and half on her cheek. then our mouths open and we kiss again. our tongues meet, and our legs entwine. clothes come off quickly, and from this point, all is predictably passionate. i selflessly extend the foreplay to pleasure her as long as it takes to get her where i want her, and then a little longer. when the moment of entry arrives, she attempts to guide me in uncovered (yes, in my experience non p4p gals are more likely to go bb), until i, as smoothly as possible, halt the proceedings briefly to cover up. all is then well.

we sleep soundly until the stirrings of daylight, then we undulate into round two… in similar fashion as in round one, minus the extended foreplay.

i get up first, have a shower, wrap a towel around me, and make a pot of tea. she is still asleep, so i whisper in her ear ‘magandang umaga’, wait for her to open her eyes and show some life, then hand her a steaming mug, black with sugar. once again, she is impressed at the thoughtful service. and though it is truly a pleasure for me to treat her this way, i am at least partly motivated by my desire to get her up and out of my place in good time so my whole day is not shot. as charlie sheen, the actor who was caught up in a much publicized p4p scandal, replied to a nosy reporter enquiring why he would need to pay for sex, ‘i’m not paying them for the sex, i’m paying for them to leave in the morning.’

i tell her she can have a shower, and ask her what she would like for breakfast. she at first refuses the offer, but i insist, telling her she must eat something before she goes. the choices are cereal with milk, toast and jam, eggs, and/or fruit. she opts for a slice of toast (which my informal mental survey tells me is the most common dia morning-after-first-date breakfast choice).

i make the breakfast while she showers, gets dressed, and to my non-surprise, but nonetheless delight, makes the bed herself with hotel-like precision. i thank her for that and tell her to sit down for breakfast. we chat about this and that while we eat. i tell her that it would be my pleasure to see again, but carefully avoid suggesting any specific dates.

when she’s finished, i tell her i will walk her outside to get a taxi, and as i do, i stuff a few hundred pesos into her pocket or bag and tell her this is for her to get home. she doesn’t object or refuse, and offers a simple but sincere sounding ‘thank you’.

as we leave the building through the lobby, once again, i hold her hand and talk to her casually walking past the security lads, who are mercifully different from the night before. we hail a taxi, and as she gets in, i kiss her on the cheek, and tell her to take care and keep in touch. a few minutes after i get back to my apartment i get a text from her. she thanks me for a nice night and hopes we can meet again soon. i text her back immediately, saying i hope so too.

manta ray