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Kickboxer151
05-31-07, 14:37
A few more pics from VIP#2


KB151

Escort King
05-31-07, 15:16
Ok guys, I wanted to keep my promise and post a few of the photos that I took of the VIP#2 remodel.

NOTE: The Famous Taxi "Wing Man" "Fernando" in the red long sleeve shirt. I like to promote good people and Fernando is definitely that! I met him on my very first trip to Medellin 2 years ago and has been my go to guy /taxi/wing man since! If you already know of him then you will agree he is a great guy for Airport Pickup, knows all the "hot spots", (chicks) 100 reliable and very reasonable. In addition he is available 24 hours a day! Send me a personal message for his contact number.

Now, back to the VIP#2. As previously stated, Albert has done a pretty good job and tells me he is still doing the final touches. However the place has definitely gone through an "extreme makeover".

Went over to the VIP #1 last night and met a few cool guys from the board. ie Durango, Tio Dan, Fluffy Soprano etc....

Enjoy,

KB151

Fernando is a great guy. He drove me around when I was there in April and really knows his stuff. Speaks more than a little English which helps.

Regulr Travlr
05-31-07, 16:29
Ok guys, I wanted to keep my promise and post a few of the photos that I took of the VIP#2 remodel.

NOTE: The Famous Taxi "Wing Man" "Fernando" in the red long sleeve shirt. I like to promote good people and Fernando is definitely that! I met him on my very first trip to Medellin 2 years ago and has been my go to guy /taxi/wing man since! If you already know of him then you will agree he is a great guy for Airport Pickup, knows all the "hot spots", (chicks) 100 reliable and very reasonable. In addition he is available 24 hours a day! Send me a personal message for his contact number.

Now, back to the VIP#2. As previously stated, Albert has done a pretty good job and tells me he is still doing the final touches. However the place has definitely gone through an "extreme makeover".



KB151

Thanks for the pics KB. Amazing how the finishing touches have been added in only a few weeks since I was there. Great job Albert and Kevin. I know how much of your personal time has been focused on this. Now you can spend more time hunting chicas.

I too have used Fernando on occasion. Great guy. Readily available. Knows all the out of the way places.

KB - If you remember Fernando took Bono and I out after that great dinner at your novia's place. Fernando's only complaint was that we were much pickier than you. He said when he drives for you it is very easy to find girls.

Kickboxer151
06-01-07, 18:03
Thanks for the pics KB. Amazing how the finishing touches have been added in only a few weeks since I was there. Great job Albert and Kevin. I know how much of your personal time has been focused on this. Now you can spend more time hunting chicas.

I too have used Fernando on occasion. Great guy. Readily available. Knows all the out of the way places.

KB - If you remember Fernando took Bono and I out after that great dinner at your novia's place. Fernando's only complaint was that we were much pickier than you. He said when he drives for you it is very easy to find girls.

What??? Fernando told me the EXACT opposite about you guys!! LOL

Hows everything? When are you coming back?

Its my Bday Today,,,,,,,,, ah to be 25!! Awesome!


KB151

Q Bert
06-01-07, 19:52
In response to your comment what happens is when you have had a project that you have worked for over a year and you finally finish you are very proud of it by no means do I want to sound cocky.

I certainly apaologize to anybody that feels otherwise.

Sincerely,

Albert Licht

Albert,

Sorry to ask a dumb question but I have been out of the loop. Is VIP "dos" just the old VIP remodeled or is it a brand new location/building? Are there 2 Club VIPs now? I guess this what I am trying to ask.

Secondly, any thoughts about going to another city...let's say, I don't know, Cali, Coffee Axis, or Barra? ;-)

QB

Mangera
06-01-07, 22:11
Its two different locations, the new one being closer to Parque Lleras. Nice place located on a corner lot, very cool place. Nice neighborhood. As for Alberts plans for expanding to other cities, I do not know. But one thing I do know for sure, he loves Paisa Land like no other city.

VipMedellin
06-02-07, 03:27
Q Bert:

Let me explain Vip is another house that is located near parque lleras it has five rooms and it is very nice if you want I can send you some pictures of it.


Albert,

Sorry to ask a dumb question but I have been out of the loop. Is VIP "dos" just the old VIP remodeled or is it a brand new location/building? Are there 2 Club VIPs now? I guess this what I am trying to ask.

Secondly, any thoughts about going to another city...let's say, I don't know, Cali, Coffee Axis, or Barra? ;-)

QB

Travelerlocco
06-02-07, 08:39
Just let me say its been awhile but hey my word is my bond and I can say with complete honesty VIP is the spot to be. Albert and Kickboxer showed me the time of my life. It was last October and I tell yall what. It was off the hook girls every night and I'm not joking. If I had the money I would recreate the'whole eek over again. I don't care what you read, VIP is all American and anyone who says differently call me [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] peace put verde hat.

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Kickboxer151
06-03-07, 20:29
Just let me say its been awhile but hey my word is my bond and I can say with complete honesty VIP is the spot to be. Albert and Kickboxer showed me the time of my life. It was last October and I tell yall what. It was off the hook girls every night and I'm not joking. If I had the money I would recreate the'whole eek over again. I don't care what you read, VIP is all American and anyone who says differently call me [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] peace put verde hat.

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Hello, And thaks for the Kind Words. I'm trying to put a face to your screen name and I kinda got an idea. BUT, please shoot me over a private message and let me know who you are.

I just got back today in the states after a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng 15 day trip in Medellin,

The ONLY 2 things I hated tihs time about my trip if there is a downside to Medellin is :

1) The PESO exxhange rate as dropped (Dollar to Peso) 30% since July of last year! What scares me the most is that most of that drop has taken place in the last 3 months!

2) TRAFFIC!!! Medellin hasnt made any byway ( Steets ) expansion compared to all the Construction they have built in the last year! This absolutely makes NO sense to me.

Peace!! KB151

Escort King
06-03-07, 23:59
Hello, And thaks for the Kind Words. I'm trying to put a face to your screen name and I kinda got an idea. BUT, please shoot me over a private message and let me know who you are.

I just got back today in the states after a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng 15 day trip in Medellin,

The ONLY 2 things I hated tihs time about my trip if there is a downside to Medellin is :

1) The PESO exxhange rate as dropped (Dollar to Peso) 30% since July of last year! What scares me the most is that most of that drop has taken place in the last 3 months!

2) TRAFFIC!!! Medellin hasnt made any byway ( Steets ) expansion compared to all the Construction they have built in the last year! This absolutely makes NO sense to me.

Peace!! KB151
Same thing happened in the DR... went from 55 to under 30

Tom 33
06-04-07, 10:18
Medellin hasnt made any byway ( Steets ) expansion compared to all the Construction they have built in the last year! This absolutely makes NO sense to me.
Very little in Colombia makes any sense to me. If you ever get it figured out, let me know.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-04-07, 17:05
Very little in Colombia makes any sense to me. If you ever get it figured out, let me know.

One of the biggest problems in Colombia, at least what ive seen in MDE, and CLO is the method of street construction, it is really really bewildering, I mean everywhere you look is street construction, but it seems like they open the road and start to tear it up for some kind of "renovation" but after they tear up the road in one area and close it off, they then start to tear up some other area in the near by vicinity. WITHOUT finishing the first area so now you have 2 street closures and double traffic, and so on and so on. Ridiculous

Escort King
06-04-07, 17:16
I love how they limit cars by license plate numbers... monday through Friday you can't drive if numbers match... end in 1 or 2 no for monday... 3 or 4 no for Tuesday... they give out tickets etc..... saw it when I was there in April.

Kickboxer151
06-04-07, 17:32
I love how they limit cars by license plate numbers... monday through Friday you can't drive if numbers match... end in 1 or 2 no for monday... 3 or 4 no for Tuesday... they give out tickets etc..... saw it when I was there in April.

Yes this is true. Its a great way to reduce the traffic, However I have grown accustomed to just traveling around town not during the peak traffic hours.

Lets see what happens to the Peso today. How much lower will it go?

KB151

Tom 33
06-04-07, 20:22
I love how they limit cars by license plate numbers... monday through Friday you can't drive if numbers match... end in 1 or 2 no for monday... 3 or 4 no for Tuesday... they give out tickets etc..... saw it when I was there in April.
I certainly do not know how this works. But, since they don't seem to ticket for running red lights, I don't think it works very well.

In Cartagena, I thought it only applied to motos. And a friend who owns a moto paid extra so he could drive all days. I don't think he had 2 plates that he swapped depending upon the date.

Colombianos just seem to have no respect for any laws. They all seem to think that no law applies to them.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-04-07, 20:50
I certainly do not know how this works. But, since they don't seem to ticket for running red lights, I don't think it works very well.

In Cartagena, I thought it only applied to motos. And a friend who owns a moto paid extra so he could drive all days. I don't think he had 2 plates that he swapped depending upon the date.

Colombianos just seem to have no respect for any laws. They all seem to think that no law applies to them.\

Hey Tom, i know this probably belongs in the GENERAL INFO SECTION and not here, but I REFUSE REFUSE REFUSE, to rent a car in COLOMBIA. They do not respect TRAFFIC LIGHTS or SIGNS, there is no structure, I was trying to pay attention of the rules when im in taxis, but I decided not to risk it, They are horrible drivers, AND I have driven in LONDON, PARIS, ROME, NYC and the Road Rage capital of the world Miami. My novia is always telling me how much money we might save if we rented a car but im just not going to risk it. ANYWAY its like $125 a day including the insurance, I dont spend that much on taxis!

Nortelx
06-05-07, 01:26
They do ticket for driving on the wrong days (based on the last digit of your license plate) but it only applies to rush hour in the morning and afternoon. If they avoid those hours then can still drive on those days.

Regulr Travlr
06-05-07, 16:26
Yes this is true. Its a great way to reduce the traffic, However I have grown accustomed to just traveling around town not during the peak traffic hours.


KB151

Can you guys stop all this talk about license plates and traffic?????????

How about some pics from last weekend and KB's birthday night out?

I know there were some guys there over Memorial Day weekend, how about some pics????

Don't make me send Spider back down there to straighten things out!!!

Durango
06-06-07, 05:21
Can you guys stop all this talk about license plates and traffic?

How about some pics from last weekend and KB's birthday night out?

I know there were some guys there over Memorial Day weekend, how about some pics?

Don't make me send Spider back down there to straighten things out!!!I've got several pics of the party at Mango's but need to edit them and ask permissions to post. Tell KB to let me know if its ok to send them to you. Got dozen's. Never got the pleasure to meet you Reg.Trav but heard youre a cool dude. I am on my way to getting to know this city enough to call it a 3rd hometown.

Durango
06-06-07, 05:41
This post goes out to just say THANKS to Albert and Kevin for making an incredible first visit to Colombia. I never in my mind it would be so fun and easy to meet these famous chicas. The house was full the entire time I was there and Albert partied with us every night, bringing new company every night with NO disappointments. Just let him know what you're looking for and he will go to work. Within minutes of arriving Sunday night we all hit the Pharmacy club. Good little disco, fun and good music. Lots of locals to check out. ALL the guys in the house got along great and all had a blast. Im having withdrawals for now, missing my chicas. IF you want to stay somewhere where you can double-dip between novias and pros, THIS is the place to stay. One guest left on Tuesday to stay at the Mansion with two of his buddies arriving that night. Needless to say they were ALL back at the VIP with our great crowd on Wednesday afternoon. They were not happy with the Mansion (several reasons) and came back to stay at the VIP. The house is very nice and even more great additions coming. These guys are dumping alot of money in this place. One of the things I liked the most is the 24-hr service from Maestro, Fernando and the other two guys working there.

Need a taxi, there in minutes.
Need a pizza, got um on the phone.
Need a chica, got um and good ones too.

Needless to say, I believe this is THE place to stay. Especially for first comers that maybe speak no Spanish. The girls are perfect english-speakers but they can get by......."Hint" universal language.

Regulr Travlr
06-06-07, 14:04
Hey Durango

Glad you had a great time. KB is a great guide and good guy to hang with.

The truth is that Maestro is the real guy behind the VIP. Albert and Kevin are just a front. Maestro is on site 24/7 and has all the chica numbers you will need. He just uses Albert and Kevin for their English speaking abilities!

Your PM's aren't turned on. I sent KB a PM to pass some info on to you.

Look forward to your pics.

Regulr Travlr
06-06-07, 18:26
Which is the best place to stay VIP 1 or VIP 2?

I like staying where all the action is (i.e.e, Bars, clubs, massage parlors, e.t.c.)

Thanks

VIP 2 is closer to all the regular non-pro action. Parque Lleras. That is not to say that some of the chicas there are not willing to engage in P4P, but you have to work a little. The area is full of restaurants and clubs. but can be a little pricey.

I would say both are just as easy to acces the casas, strip clubs etc. Both will require taxis. Unless you are staying in Centro you will not find many places that are walkable. But most are a cheap taxi ride. Others can chime in who may know the areas better.

The hell with the icemaker - where are the pics?

SpiderMonkey
06-07-07, 20:13
I have to agree with travlr, I received more than a dozen pm: s for info about the chicas I had on my trip. Which I took the time out and gave all the info I had phone #: s prices ect. And I was promised FULL reports and PICS and here I am still waiting. Maybe I'll start passing on bad info, some of you are not a man of your words!

Spider

Regulr Travlr
06-08-07, 15:09
I have to agree with travlr, I received more than a dozen pm: s for info about the chicas I had on my trip. Which I took the time out and gave all the info I had phone #: s prices ect. And I was promised FULL reports and PICS and here I am still waiting. Maybe I'll start passing on bad info, some of you are not a man of your words!

Spider

You are right Spider. The only guy who asked for info and posted some nice stuff is Acuerpado. He posted in the Medellin thread.

So if we can't get any new pics out of the guys visiting VIP I will break the code of honor and post one that KB sent me privately.

VipMedellin
06-08-07, 23:42
You ask for it.

VipMedellin
06-08-07, 23:45
I have some more but I will post later.

VipMedellin
06-08-07, 23:51
Here you have some pics.

VipMedellin
06-08-07, 23:53
This one has a nice ass

Ford
06-09-07, 03:21
To Reg Trav & Spider.

We all appreciate your great contributions to this site and your terrific pics! There's a hell of alot of people on this board that take and take w/o giving back. Its a shame - but what can you do?

They forget to post, they say that when they returned home "they just got too damn busy at work to get around to writing a report", they forget to bring their camera's when they go travel......

.....but they're never shy about asking for more info and more pics from others though. Hmmmm. :rolleyes:

Superboy1
06-09-07, 20:42
Pic 117 , i know that music, have not seen her for about 1year.
Pic 196(blonde) ,was the first ever non-colombian to f**k her.
Looks like you guys are nicking the girls from the Mansion.

Superboy

VipMedellin
06-09-07, 22:52
Superboy let me clearfy something These girls are not our girls or anybodys girls we dont hold title to them, they are anybody´s who has cash to pay them as a matter of fact the guest usually are the ones that bring them I just a have a nice place where you can have fun no disrespect to your or anybody else just a fact.

Hope to see ya at VIP someday.


Pic 117 , i know that music, have not seen her for about 1year.
Pic 196(blonde) ,was the first ever non-colombian to f**k her.

Looks like you guys are nicking the girls from the Mansion.

Superboy

Gordon Gecko
06-10-07, 03:33
If you are going to try to attract business at the Club Vip, at least post some photos of hot chicks. I mean smoking little hotties, not street sluts from the corner or outside strip club san diego.

Thanx

GG

Fantasy
06-10-07, 20:51
Pic 196(blonde) ,was the first ever non-colombian to f**k her.
Superboy

Last I looked, I was not Colombian?

Let me see if I can dig up the picture of her "before her doctor's visit", and before her blonde hair!!

Superboy1
06-10-07, 22:29
Superboy let me clearfy something These girls are not our girls or anybodys girls we dont hold title to them, they are anybody´s who has cash to pay them as a matter of fact the guest usually are the ones that bring them I just a have a nice place where you can have fun no disrespect to your or anybody else just a fact.

Hope to see ya at VIP someday.

I kinda of meant that as a joke,i do understand the girls will go where ever they can make some money and have some fun. :-)

Superboy1
06-10-07, 22:33
Last I looked, I was not Colombian?

Let me see if I can dig up the picture of her "before her doctor's visit", and before her blonde hair!!

That what she told me LOL , but then again you could be right, i never did belive everything colombia say. But she was nice,very open minded,great body. but did try to get a sh*t load of money from me before hand,i simply said `no,no,no`, she gave in in the end.

Superboy

Poor But Horny
06-10-07, 22:35
You are right Spider. The only guy who asked for info and posted some nice stuff is Acuerpado. He posted in the Medellin thread.

So if we can't get any new pics out of the guys visiting VIP I will break the code of honor and post one that KB sent me privately.I seem to remember posting pics and prices.

VipMedellin
06-11-07, 01:37
Thats right and I do agree with you.

And sorry I didnt know you meant it like a joke I just wanted to set things straight.
I seriously hope to see ya some day here at VIP and I will personallt take car of you.
I kinda of meant that as a joke, I do understand the girls will go where ever they can make some money and have some fun. :-)

Regulr Travlr
06-11-07, 01:50
I seem to remember posting pics and prices.Sorry PBH. You picked up on the end of the discussion.

Spider and I received a good bit of requests for info after we all left. I knew for a fact there would be a group of guys there on Memorial weekend. Also the following weekend which was KB's birthday. Only Albert was able to put up a few pics from that time.

Your initial contributions were very good and bring back fond memories. For someone who was new to the board you did post a lot of info as well, including some good pricing analysis. If only some of the other guys would do the same.

I guess the VIP thread will be bare till we all return.

Escort King
06-11-07, 13:07
I have some more but I will post later.

does this one dance at San Diego?

Guilem G
06-15-07, 15:05
hello,

sorry for my mistakes, i'm from spain.

i will be at vip in july and i have few questions.

i readed the last months posts before to ask but i didn't find information about this questions, or maybe i translated bad.

yesterday i talked with la secretaria de albert, via messenger and he said me that the taxis cost from the airport to vip is 50k? is it correct? in my trip to cartagena, i paid 12k for taxi from airport to bocagrande.

the taxi's price in medellin are expensive comparated with the cartagena rates? or maybe this service got and extraprice for waiting my flight in the airport?

i'm interested in other activities like campo de tiro or parapente, you know the prices for this activities?

the places like mangos only work in the weekend?

thanks

Winner71
06-15-07, 19:26
yes... 50k is about right if one is to pick you up. if you flag one in the airport i believe it is right at 45k. or you can take the shuttle bus for 5500 pesos to hotel nutibarra and a cab from there to anywhere in poblado will be 5k-7k pesos. the reason it cost so much more than cartagena is becuase the airport is a long way away from the city.

parapente...
skydiving- zona de vuelo jaime gomez londono
312-832-5891
zonadevuelo1@yahoo.com
clemenciacorrea- asistente
310-839-8321
zonadevuelo2@yahoo.com
get there by 9am or you miht not get to do it. take the train/metro and get off at the northern bus terminal. go to counter 17 at northern bus terminal and tell them parapente. 3200 pesos is cost of the buseta. they will tell you when it is time to get off. plan ahead as you really want to get there by 9am as wind can get rough in the afternoon and they will tell you, no go. if you get there any later you risk not being able to do it that day. it takes some time to get there. ie... time on the metro, then walking around the northern bus terminal. once you are on the bus on your way it's another 45 minutes. the skydiving itself costs 70k pesos +/- 10k pesos. i forgot the exact price.

mangos is weekends only. i recommend going for the experience, but i wouldn't go more than once. there are an awful lot of other places to go and mangos is full of plastics and gals you probably don't even want to talk to anyways. if you do go, take a date. preferebly a humble sweet chica you meet in your every day activities as opposed to a puta that has been taken there a zillion times and won't appreciate you as much as she's been therre, done that.

have fun




hello,

sorry for my mistakes, i'm from spain.

i will be at vip in july and i have few questions.

i readed the last months posts before to ask but i didn't find information about this questions, or maybe i translated bad.

yesterday i talked with la secretaria de albert, via messenger and he said me that the taxis cost from the airport to vip is 50k? is it correct? in my trip to cartagena, i paid 12k for taxi from airport to bocagrande.

the taxi's price in medellin are expensive comparated with the cartagena rates? or maybe this service got and extraprice for waiting my flight in the airport?

i'm interested in other activities like campo de tiro or parapente, you know the prices for this activities?

the places like mangos only work in the weekend?

thanks

Mangera
06-15-07, 20:55
hello,

sorry for my mistakes, i'm from spain.

i will be at vip in july and i have few questions.

i readed the last months posts before to ask but i didn't find information about this questions, or maybe i translated bad.

yesterday i talked with la secretaria de albert, via messenger and he said me that the taxis cost from the airport to vip is 50k? is it correct? in my trip to cartagena, i paid 12k for taxi from airport to bocagrande.

the taxi's price in medellin are expensive comparated with the cartagena rates? or maybe this service got and extraprice for waiting my flight in the airport?

i'm interested in other activities like campo de tiro or parapente, you know the prices for this activities?

the places like mangos only work in the weekend?

thanks

i will just add a few more points. call albert ahead of time to have a taxi driver there for you, either robinson or alvaro( not sure of his name now, i have the gentlemans name and number at home, but i am in brazil right now, so i can not retrieve). i would not flag a taxi from the airport, better off paying the 5,000 extra pesos for safety. you can wing it, but it is your first time to medellin. play it safe the first time until you learn the layout of the land and the people.

i rather go with a taxi driver from vip because on the way from the airport to vip( at night time most likely), i usually stop at citibank atm that i am pretty sure is open 24 hrs, located in the blockbuster video right off pablado ave. its relatively close to vip. the driver won't mind, you can trust him, and you will not have to pay extra for it. so i get the money dilema out of the way from the get go.

also, don't hesitate to talk to albert about anything, anywhere, the guy will arrange things for you without a problem. tranquilo, que el es buena gente. chau

Cachorro
06-16-07, 00:32
medellin taxi costs more because the ride from the airport is nearly an hour, and there is a toll road (peaje).

parapente - i think i paid 50k for a 20 minute tandem flight. call them on the same day to confirm the weather conditions. if you are not on a serious budget, take a taxi out there (on the meter). after you are done paragliding, pick up the bus as it passes by the parapente site which will take you back to medellin. i would not recommend jaime or luisito for parapente. they were ok but not very professional or respectful when i was there.

Fantasy
06-16-07, 04:14
For a Sunday Afternoon BBQ!!!!

Guilem G
06-16-07, 11:37
Thank's for your accurated info.

Durango
06-18-07, 07:30
The famous Memorial Day group is in plans for a repeat of a great time for Aug 1.15. I will be there sometime inbetween depending on Copa's available flights due I only fly with FF mile tickets. Albert------ I'll bring the 42" flat-screen this time. I do want to see the shorty up left like a fool at Mango's on KB's birthday night. I hooked up and shake her loose to talk to your leftover. You da man, pimp. Give my shouts out to Maestro, Lena, Kevin and my new "Love" the interior designer. I'm gonna also bring the "Tankless Hot-Water" system to help you guys out with that little problem that arises every once-in-a-while.

Fantasy, Reg. Travler, Scooby or any other of you well-experienced guys out there. I personally invite you guys to see WHO is WHO of this group. I can pull non-pros all day long. Fantasy is sort of my idol for now for the quality he pulls. KB is great to hang out with. Definitely knows where to go. Casas, clubs, etc. I will say one thing. I was the only one who made it pass 5am hanging with Maestro every night.

I will say Albert said I did the "Fucking Craziest thing he ever heard of"

Me and Gemini went down to Mayorista about 5:30am, but the funniest thing is we left the house to just get some McD's and said, hell lets go to the DRIVE THRU at Mayorista. ((I'm 80% fluent en espanol. 100% Gringo from Texas)) We thought we were gonna find some takeout from inside the taxi. Well I didn't want to spend all night, so I jumped out the taxi. Swimming trunks and Hanes whitey t-shirt and sandals. YES, AT 5:30am Saturday night. Put it this way. I got several "what the hell" looks but it didn't stop me. For a little safety I found a cop and told him, " Follow me, I'll hook you up". He followed along and had no problem. Now guys, I wouldn't suggest this to average guy. This was kinda stupid to do, put what the hell. We were having a blast. I'm 5'10", 230lbs and speak fluent spanish. I have extensive time in Mexico, so it's some part similar. You don't show any fear, or they will take your head off. You show firmness and typically you won't have any problems, especially if you tip the cops. I just did it as a back-up measure.

Tiny 12
06-18-07, 20:48
Swim trunks a white tank top and sandals at 5:30 AM in Mayorista? Durango, you dumb sh*t, don't you know you're only supposed to wear long pants in Medellin? (Just kidding.)

I'm impressed, but a little confused. You told a cop you'd buy him some poontang if he watched your backside while you picked out some hookers to take home?

Rainman3
06-19-07, 03:19
Durango,

I officially notify the ISG Colombia group that I am Gemini and your partner in crime on the McDs/Mayorista drive thru adventure. I don't think the chicos knew what to think about the 2 big corn fed white boy gringos strolling their haunts at that time in the morning in shorts, t shirts and sandals.

But WTF, mission accomplished. Great talking to you on the phone today and I can't wait to get back in August.

Thomrn10
06-19-07, 05:26
Tiny,

I can vouch for Durango. They actually went down there but the hook up with policia involved money for protection as opposed to pootang. I was at VIP when they left and heard the stories over breakfast the next morning. It wasn't a whole lot of money but it involved a policeman following them around. I went down to Mayorista with Durango on another night and the story was just as wild and sordid.

The Memorial Day group he was talking about was quite cool as the chemistry of a full house lent itself to one hell of a party. There were guys down there with girl friends, guys seeking and getting the gfe as well as guys just getting laid as many times a day as they could. Like me. In addition, there were guys that kind of floated between the groups seeking all of the above. All in all, everyone was quite accepting of whatever was going on and it made for a hell of a sweet time. A bunch of good guys. Gentlemen if you will. As well of a number of ladies.

Durango, I can't make it in August but I am planning a trip at the beginning of November and hope you can make that one.

Tiny 12
06-19-07, 16:52
It's kind of like a light just went off in my head. Police in Colombia are actually good for something. You just have to pay them.

VipMedellin
06-19-07, 18:18
Durango:

Thanks for all of your comments, by the way just keep brining the 32 inch tvs and the water box definetly.

Thank you very much hope teo see ya soon.


The famous Memorial Day group is in plans for a repeat of a great time for Aug 1.15. I will be there sometime inbetween depending on Copa's available flights due I only fly with FF mile tickets. Albert------ I'll bring the 42" flat-screen this time. I do want to see the shorty up left like a fool at Mango's on KB's birthday night. I hooked up and shake her loose to talk to your leftover. You da man, pimp. Give my shouts out to Maestro, Lena, Kevin and my new "Love" the interior designer. I'm gonna also bring the "Tankless Hot-Water" system to help you guys out with that little problem that arises every once-in-a-while.

Fantasy, Reg. Travler, Scooby or any other of you well-experienced guys out there. I personally invite you guys to see WHO is WHO of this group. I can pull non-pros all day long. Fantasy is sort of my idol for now for the quality he pulls. KB is great to hang out with. Definitely knows where to go. Casas, clubs, etc. I will say one thing. I was the only one who made it pass 5am hanging with Maestro every night.

I will say Albert said I did the "Fucking Craziest thing he ever heard of"

Me and Gemini went down to Mayorista about 5:30am, but the funniest thing is we left the house to just get some McD's and said, hell lets go to the DRIVE THRU at Mayorista. ((I'm 80% fluent en espanol. 100% Gringo from Texas)) We thought we were gonna find some takeout from inside the taxi. Well I didn't want to spend all night, so I jumped out the taxi. Swimming trunks and Hanes whitey t-shirt and sandals. YES, AT 5:30am Saturday night. Put it this way. I got several "what the hell" looks but it didn't stop me. For a little safety I found a cop and told him, " Follow me, I'll hook you up". He followed along and had no problem. Now guys, I wouldn't suggest this to average guy. This was kinda stupid to do, put what the hell. We were having a blast. I'm 5'10", 230lbs and speak fluent spanish. I have extensive time in Mexico, so it's some part similar. You don't show any fear, or they will take your head off. You show firmness and typically you won't have any problems, especially if you tip the cops. I just did it as a back-up measure.

Polvo
06-19-07, 20:59
It's kind of like a light just went off in my head. Police in Colombia are actually good for something. You just have to pay them.

In Peru I have to pay them to let me go!!

Polvo

SpiderMonkey
06-19-07, 21:36
All I hear about is talk about all the party"s and chicas. But no pics like me and Travlr. Post some already.

Spider

Fantasy
06-19-07, 22:16
lets not get carried away, but........





Fantasy, Reg. Travler, Scooby or any other of you well-experienced guys out there. I personally invite you guys to see WHO is WHO of this group. I can pull non-pros all day long. Fantasy is sort of my idol for now for the quality he pulls.

Winner71
06-20-07, 03:17
I'd get on top of both those chicas :-)



lets not get carried away, but........

Almotu
06-20-07, 14:24
The chica in "Showerfun" is very cute, where did you find her? which city?

Durango
06-22-07, 08:04
Hey dude,

I turned on the pm's here. My pm's will be on by tommorrow. Shoot me an email. We will be back in August from the 2nd until the 14th with the other guy that was celebrating his be-day with us at mango's. I had a blast with "v" that night. We went back to the vip and passed out. Woke up around 11 then killed a bottle of vodka, then she passed out again until like 10pm that night. I had to send her on her way because I had someone lined up for the night but actually would have had more fun with "v". She got a cell phone for me to call her. I talked to her tonight. She is really a sweet girl so far. We'll talk more on that subject later. Try to be in town those days. We've got an penthouse apartment locked in for the two weeks and will invite everyone over to have a blast again. I'm actually making plans for October since those damn frequent flyer miles fill up fast. Stay in touch and can't wait to casa with the fantasy. I'm hittin the gym hard to get the little pugh down for next trip and to keep in shape and keep up with the paisas. Damn I miss them'. Had to go back to mexico right after coming back and damnnnn they looked uglier than ever coming back from heaven (mde)! Guts hanging out and even have the nerve to be stuck-up. Still can't believe it but it is very obivious. I now don't even give them the time of day, now I know where to go.

Durango
06-22-07, 08:19
All I hear about is talk about all the party"s and chicas. But no pics like me and Travlr. Post some already.

SpiderSorry Spider it taking so long to post the pics. I've got hundreds, but I need to use the software to size them down for posting. They are all in 6MP and are large. I seen some posts on how to do it. Also need to photoshop out some faces to keep some guys safe, or at least call them to make sure its ok. PM me with an email and I'll send you some direct. Saturday I'll sit down and take care of that because there is one I need FANTASY to see my GEM catch from Mayoritsa.

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Durango,

Please read this for information on downsizing photos.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-imageinstructions.php

Also, I would suggest that you consider downloading and installing this FREE program as it will probably be more efficient for you to downsize your photos all at one time on your computer.

http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm

Please remember that downsizing your photos will not effect your original photos, it will only make a second, smaller copy, so there's no cause for concern that you might lose your larger copies.

Thanks,

Jackson

Fantasy
06-23-07, 04:15
Hey dude,

We will be back in August from the 2nd until the 14th.

And I will be arriving on the 15th.................

Winner71
06-23-07, 04:32
Funny thing is, once you go to some other cities you won't believe you wasted so much time in Medellin. I think Medellin is by far the city with the most to do... but as far as chicas go, Cartagena is last place for me then Medellin comes in 2nd to last. Cartagena because of the looks. Medellin because of the attitude. Get out of those 2 and then you will be in heaven.


Had to go back to mexico right after coming back and damnnnn they looked uglier than ever coming back from heaven (mde)! Guts hanging out and even have the nerve to be stuck-up. Still can't believe it but it is very obivious. I now don't even give them the time of day, now I know where to go.

Durango
06-23-07, 08:37
Then where is it better than Medellin, because if it gets any better than that, I'm buying a one-way ticket.

Here are the party pics everyone's been dying for. I'll post more when I can edit them better. These dudes know how to party. Everywhere you go with them you WILL be accompanied by good pickin's and even spares if you decide to change your mind. These were from Palmita's (some sh*t like that), I think on a Wednesday night. Correct me Albert if you even can remember. It's been a few weeks and I know how you get down, pimp. Big Props to this dude.His chica was smokkkin hot that night. I do hope you and Kevin are on the Liver Transplant Donor List, to replace those I can imagine livers of yours dude. HA !!

Thanks to Jackson for the link on resizing the pics. That was as easy as getting laid in Medellin. AND THATS EASY!

Fantasy
06-24-07, 07:48
She use to go out with a friend of mine for about two months until he found out...... It looks like she has captured another vic at your party. Sometimes we tend to get caught up in all that young beauty and forget how dangerous our hobby really can be. Always take care of you first! As the stewardess instructs us "place the mask over your nose and mouth first, then help the person next to you!!

looks like it was a great time!

RoadGlide
07-04-07, 07:51
Guy's it looks like you are having the same problems with your web site that the Mansion had last month.....What's up with you guy's in Colombia? LOL

Any chance that somebody could post or PM me some contact information, I had a request from a board member from another adult web site.

RG.

RoadGlide
07-07-07, 21:02
It's back up again....

Winner71
07-07-07, 21:45
I didn't even know VIP had a website. What's the address?


It's back up again....

RoadGlide
07-08-07, 03:26
It's a much lower key web site than that of the Mansion, but here it is for you guy's http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/index.php

RG.

VipMedellin
07-08-07, 20:34
I want to apologize but we had problems with our website last week but it is back on and we are working on another one since our name has changed to HOTEL VIP.
As soons as it is up I will be informing you guys this one will come with prices and photos of the whole place so that you can see everything we have done to it.


It's a much lower key web site than that of the Mansion, but here it is for you guy's http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/index.php

RG.

Sandman0011
07-25-07, 02:42
BTW-You mis-spelled accommodations. It has 2 M's

VipMedellin
07-26-07, 05:03
Thank you very much I will correct that.

We are in the process of our new website unfortunely everything in Colombia takes more time than usual.


BTW-You mis-spelled accommodations. It has 2 M's

Sandman0011
07-26-07, 18:29
The hard way!


Thank you very much I will correct that.

We are in the process of our new website unfortunely everything in Colombia takes more time than usual.

Sandman0011
08-02-07, 01:33
Are activities for the festival only for your guests?

PapaMac
08-06-07, 20:06
Does Hotel V. I. P. Have bbq's or daytime parties on the weekends?

I couldn't find this information on the website.

Thanks for a reply.

VipMedellin
08-10-07, 21:57
I would like to invite any member of this board who is in Medellin to our barbecue party on Sunday.

For more info on it please contact me at my cel number 3102901719

Albert Licht

Partner V.I.P.


Does Hotel V. I. P. Have bbq's or daytime parties on the weekends?

I couldn't find this information on the website.

Thanks for a reply.

Fla Fun
08-12-07, 10:55
I would like to invite any member of this board who is in Medellin to our barbecue party on Sunday.

For more info on it please contact me at my cel number 3102901719

Albert Licht

Partner V.I.P.Albert, will you be taking photos of the girls at the BBQ? Is there a cost for guests?

El Bombero
08-13-07, 01:33
Albert,

I'll be staying at your hotel in a few weeks.

How about posting some pics of what I'm looking forward to!!

See you soon.

VipMedellin
08-18-07, 08:38
Its always a pleasure having you in da House Kicker! Just stop busting up all my beds.

Durango, poor Kicker was outnumbered 5:1, he could have used a Wingman.

VipMedellin
08-28-07, 04:56
Most of the girls are working girls for the exception of my girlfriend.


The girl is pic 4067 on the left. And all these girls, are they just friends of Alberts or are they working girls?

Thanks

VipMedellin
08-28-07, 05:20
These are the girls that we have.

Fantasy
08-28-07, 05:41
Most of the girls are working girls for the exception of my girlfriend.

I was told that your girl use to be the girlfriend of the former owner of the Mansion. Is this factual info?

VipMedellin
08-28-07, 16:45
No, that is not true.


I was told that your girl use to be the girlfriend of the former owner of the Mansion. Is this factual info?

RoadGlide
08-28-07, 18:25
I was told that your girl use to be the girlfriend of the former owner of the Mansion. Is this factual info?

Unless you are living in a soap opera who gives a shit about the dating habits of Greg or Albert. What I'd like to know is why guys are paying 100k an hour for a Mansion girl.

RG.

Aussie Greg
08-28-07, 22:50
I got to back Albert up on this one, no.

Aussie Greg.



QUOTE=VipMedellin]No, that is not true.[/QUOTE]

Superboy1
08-28-07, 23:29
Unless you are living in a soap opera who gives a shit about the dating habits of Greg or Albert. What I'd like to know is why guys are paying 100k an hour for a Mansion girl.

RG.

How much do you think people should pay for Mansion girls?

Superboy

Fantasy
08-29-07, 01:05
I really don't care who is dating who, and who is not, but varifiying that the info was bogus helps me put a value on anything else I hear from this source

current value = bull S___


He is now on my ignore list, and emails blocked.

Thanks again.

Fantasy

RoadGlide
08-29-07, 06:36
Superboy; I think a fair price would be between 50k and 80k unless she is a 9 or 10, and gives the same for service. I had a girl that stayed with me from about noon untill 9 the next morning at the Mansion for 160k a few years ago. Funny thing is she showed up a few nights latter and the other girls were telling her that she needs to start charging more!

I imagine that Albert has girls in a book that he can call up like Greg does, and that service sould be worth something, but everyone should keep in mind the cost of living in Medellin.

RG.

Regulr Travlr
08-29-07, 14:37
I imagine that Albert has girls in a book that he can call up like Greg does, and that service sould be worth something, but everyone should keep in mind the cost of living in Medellin.

RG.

Both Albert and his trusty sidekick Maestro have a long and ever expanding list of chicas that are available to guests. But they do not set prices or get a "vig". I have found that various groups of girls have their own set prices and they vary. So one group may come in asking 100, another 150 or more. But these are asking prices. Keep your negotiations private and not in front of the chicas friends. You will do better.

Just to reiterate, Albert does not take a "vig" from the girls. I have had a lot of long, private and sober converstaions with him. I understand his reasoning. I actually think Albert loses money on the deal. He has less willpower than I do when he see the chicas come thru the door. All of a sudden a new friend shows up and he just has to have her! But I guess this is part of quality control.

Regulr Travlr
08-29-07, 18:21
I really don't care who is dating who, and who is not, but varifiying that the info was bogus helps me put a value on anything else I hear from this source

current value = bull S___


He is now on my ignore list, and emails blocked.

Thanks again.

Fantasy


Like where will you land for that September trip????

BeersTerry
08-30-07, 00:47
I can't believe the bullshit....or is it naivete ?
How do you lose money when a chica comes over ?

Regulr Travlr
08-30-07, 02:08
I can't believe the bullshit....or is it naivete ?
How do you lose money when a chica comes over ?
OK read a little slower! I know it might be hard for you.

The point was that Albert is easily enticed by new chicas arriving at the VIP. So while not making any money on the chicas coming over, he actually spends money out of his pocket to go with a chica. Therefore, a net loss.

If anybody sends you any knock knock jokes, drop me a line. I can help you with these too.

Winner71
08-30-07, 02:33
jajjaa.. too funny.

On the other hand, I just find it shocking that Albert would ever pay for any chica. Why pay a puta when he can have any non-pro he wants? At least I would think so.



OK read a little slower! I know it might be hard for you.

The point was that Albert is easily enticed by new chicas arriving at the VIP. So while not making any money on the chicas coming over, he actually spends money out of his pocket to go with a chica. Therefore, a net loss.

If anybody sends you any knock knock jokes, drop me a line. I can help you with these too.

Ccu2401
09-02-07, 16:46
Hey Albert,

Sounds like things are still hopping there. 2 questions:

1. I mailed the key back for #10 have you received it yet?

2. Do I still hold the record for the quickest return!

Say hello to everyone - especially the great staff.

Thanks,

Tim

Durango
09-11-07, 06:52
Its always a pleasure having you in da House Kicker! Just stop busting up all my beds.

Durango, poor Kicker was outnumbered 5:1, he could have used a Wingman.Sorry guys,

Was taking care of business down in the mother-land. Will be getting back in late Sept or first of October. Kickboxer, sorry to let you down. You know I always got your back, buddy. Albert, I miss the action and GOD am I ready to get back for a week or two. I've gone through hell the last two months and MISSED my trip in August with Rainman3. That was true depression but I got all my shit in order now and ready to get back down to my Colombianas. Mexican chicas aren't worth the time or money. TOTAL waste of time. Would never talk to any of them if I wasn't living there half of my time. I do have a few I hang with and other things but as far as serious relationship. NEVER! I'll call you Albert and see how many Plasmas you still need. Anything to help a brother out.

Your Wingman,

Durango

DetJunky
09-15-07, 18:33
Pro or non-pro they both lead to money in the end. I went out with quite a few non pros, but they openly asked your for money, either for shopping, school or rent etc. Sometimes it turns out to be more expensive than the money you spend on pro. But they are not on the clock and give you a GFE experience, I did not mind spending and giving them money. I spent almost $700 on one local girl, shopping, wine, dine, taxi, until she slept with me.

The lowest I ever paid at VIP was just 100K COP, I just asked and she agreed. The highest I paid was 300K each for two girls, COP for semi pro action, she was a beauty, did everything, BBBJ, Anal, date, dance, drink , dinner, threesome, I do have pictures but promised them not to post, they are more than a GFE. 150K COP was the typical rate.

Always use your ATM, you get the best rates , I got 2160 COP for $1US, only 1860 COP if you change at currency store, big difference.

Oviado is a fucked up mall, girls are very uptight, had good success at Mayorca, WACO, LA Frotera, EL Torra malls. WACO was very good. Easy to pickup some local action, but you still end up spending money, chica's openly expect and ask you for money ( in many forms, shopping, school , etc )

Had a very good time over all

Winner71
09-16-07, 04:03
I went out with quite a few non pros, but they openly asked your for money, either for shopping, school or rent etc.
I spent almost $700 on one local girl, shopping, wine, dine, taxi, until she slept with me.

The highest I paid was 300K each for two girls, COP for semi pro action, she was a beauty, did everything, BBBJ, Anal, date, dance, drink , dinner, threesome

I'm scratching my head at why you are using the terms pros, semi-pros, and non-pros. From reading your post, you spent 100% of your time with pros. The gal you spent $700 on was your worst nightmare... a true pro that you want to stay away from at all costs. Unfortunately, she reeled you in. She's the biggest pro you had, you just didn't know it... that or naively let it happen... which is what she is a PRO at.

Mangera
09-16-07, 04:14
Pro or non-pro they both lead to money in the end. I went out with quite a few non pros, but they openly asked your for money, either for shopping, school or rent etc. Sometimes it turns out to be more expensive than the money you spend on pro. But they are not on the clock and give you a GFE experience, I did not mind spending and giving them money. I spent almost $700 on one local girl, shopping, wine, dine, taxi, until she slept with me.

The lowest I ever paid at VIP was just 100K COP, I just asked and she agreed. The highest I paid was 300K each for two girls, COP for semi pro action, she was a beauty, did everything, BBBJ, Anal, date, dance, drink , dinner, threesome, I do have pictures but promised them not to post, they are more than a GFE. 150K COP was the typical rate.

Always use your ATM, you get the best rates , I got 2160 COP for $1US, only 1860 COP if you change at currency store, big difference.

Oviado is a fucked up mall, girls are very uptight, had good success at Mayorca, WACO, LA Frotera, EL Torra malls. WACO was very good. Easy to pickup some local action, but you still end up spending money, chica's openly expect and ask you for money ( in many forms, shopping, school , etc )

Had a very good time over all

How much did the gal with the light blue top and jeans in picture # 1 and same gal in picture # 5 charge? For how long, and how was her service? Thanks.

MiamiHeatLuver
09-16-07, 04:38
IMHO I dont think that any of those girls that you are showing us are worth 300kst, To be perfectly frank, I swear Ive seen better talent by parque botero or even mayorista. And I agree 100% with WINNER'S comments. It sounds like the girls you were with were pros, its just that they are so good at it that its hardly seen by the untrained eye. OPENLY asking for MONEY for clothes, school, rent? I mean WHAT THE FUCK? Those b itches would have gotten a real sarchastic laugh and either been talking to an empty phone or I would have excused myself to go the bathroom and gone out the backdoor. lol Those arent non-pros from the "poor" areas you were dealing with beacuse Girls from the poor areas should be happy just to go anywhere with you and be so happy just to get money for the taxi.. Is it me or does anybody else agree that the talent in the "MANSIONS" seems to be declining over the past 2-3 years?

Sailor2006
09-16-07, 05:46
Omg, I am sorry I hate hearing stories like yours, it makes me sad! All I can say is wow! These girls are sharks and will take you if you let them, they are excellent liars! Many girls make a good living hooking gringos in. I don't like to tell people what to do, but it is guys that ruin "gringo repuatation" by giving these girls anything they want. It really makes it harder for long term visitors.

A reference towards what to pay girls should be compared to local "kat house" prices. For example girls who work lutron and false dose charge 150K per hour of service, in which the house takes a commission so the ladies take is much less. Why would anybody pay more then what the TOP quality cases charge? Doesnt make much sense, 300K makes them one of the top paid hookers in Medellin, and in reality makes you a sucker.

And I agree mansion quality has fallen but prices keep going higher, that happends when you get more desperate customers willing to pay anything to get laid.

Dodger Bulldog
09-16-07, 06:16
I'm scratching my head at why you are using the terms pros, semi-pros, and non-pros.Me too. I know it is commonly used here, but I have to laugh every time I hear the term "semi-pro."

It's just like being pregnant - either you are or you aren't.

I believe it is used to designate someone whose entire life doesn't revolve around being a pro. Some days (or some weeks) she does it, and some she doesn't, right?

Wouldn't "part-time pro" be a much more appropriate term for these chicas?

DB

Ricker
09-16-07, 17:06
Omg, I am sorry I hate hearing stories like yours, it makes me sad! All I can say is wow! These girls are sharks and will take you if you let them, they are excellent liars! Many girls make a good living hooking gringos in. I don't like to tell people what to do, but it is guys that ruin "gringo repuatation" by giving these girls anything they want. It really makes it harder for long term visitors.

A reference towards what to pay girls should be compared to local "kat house" prices. For example girls who work lutron and false dose charge 150K per hour of service, in which the house takes a commission so the ladies take is much less. Why would anybody pay more then what the TOP quality cases charge? Doesnt make much sense, 300K makes them one of the top paid hookers in Medellin, and in reality makes you a sucker.

And I agree mansion quality has fallen but prices keep going higher, that happends when you get more desperate customers willing to pay anything to get laid.


I've found it works both ways actually.

An experienced guy knows immediately which chicas are the TIBURONES (sharks) and know how to handle them appropriately.

Sometimes it's fun to play with them a bit. Sometimes you can "turn them". Get them to dig you a bit. Maybe get a freebie ... GFE.

With the same chica, some guy pays 300K pesos and gets negotiated mechanical sex, and the smarter, smoother guy can get it for free or low cost ... and with mas carino.
It takes the ability to shmooz a bit, doesn't matter if you're GQ style or Mad Magazine, if they dig ya, they dig ya.

OF COURSE there are the chicas that are "un-turnable". Complete sharks.
They talk only ... money, money, money.
That's easy, just leave them ... immediately. There's always another chica around the corner.
Most of the chicas though are just that, girls ... and "turnable".

As far as chicas ... non-pros ... if they start asking for material things or money, do yourself a favor and ditch them.
They are nothing but pros in disguise ... but worse ... they like to play with your heart too.
Nothing against the dude that pracically paid $700 in material things, just to lay down with a chica ... but was it worth it?? Most likely not ... and she will only expect more of the same.

I often take chicas to the mall. Non-pros. It's a GREAT excersise to see how a chica reacts.
If she starts asking for things ... "por favor mi amor, me encantan estos zapatos" ... you know what you've got on your hands.
If you offer to buy her something, that's OK.
If she says NO, that she can find it cheaper in el Centro ... you've got a good one.

It's not about the money amigos ... if you think I'm being un "TACANO" ... (cheap SOB) :)
It's all about the ATTITUDE!

Bottom line is .... it really doesn't matter how many dummies go out and spend too much money on chicas. I've found that it's still pretty easy to weed out the sharks and have a great time for a good price or free.

Good luck Amigos!

DetJunky
09-16-07, 22:16
How much did the gal with the light blue top and jeans in picture # 1 and same gal in picture # 5 charge? For how long, and how was her service? Thanks.She was one of the better looking and said yes for just 100K COP, service was good, great BBJ, but she did not like squeezing of her tits too much, she compained often, was a turn off, but she was a looker, great body.

Winner71
09-17-07, 00:08
I agree.

To me...

A pro is someone that you pay for sex... and it can be direct pay for sex, buyinig them clothes, cell phones etc, giving them cash when they ask for it... regardless of how much. Why? Because once you start giving, the amounts will increase and increase and increase because she will keep asking and you will keep giving because you are in love.

A non-pro is a chica that will sleep with you for free because she "digs you" as the term el maestro, Ricker, likes to use. If you fall for this gal and she falls for you and she becomes your novia after countless visits and you never give her anything then she is truly a non-pro. Is it wrong after a few months to help her out with small expenses? That's your call... I.e. if you are truly planning on marrying her then probably not... but how much is correct? I have a gf of about 2 years. I pay for her to have internet in her house and for "pastillas".. for her to be on the pill while I'm there. Why do I pay for these things? Because 1) I like that she has Internet in her house as it's a benefit for me... if you know what I mean and 2) I pay for her pastillas because I don't like using condoms with my gf. So, what am I paying for? Expenses that I have added and are of my benefit. I don't pay for anything else.... other than paying for all the stuff we do together when I am there, which is normal in most gf/bf relationships.

A semi-pro is... I have 2 definitions...

1) a chica that is a non-pro... but does it seasonally to pay for her tuition, clothes, extra gadgets (cell phones etc). I.e. she'll go to Cartagena or Medellin for July and December holidays to work as a pro. The other 10 months of the year she does not partake in the sex trade.
2) a chica that is a non-pro and for most guys she sleeps with for free... i.e. her Colombian amigovios and the foriegners that she digs. However, every once in a while a guy will come along where she knows she can get something out of him... so she asks for either small stuff... 20k pesos here and there or she asks for.... well maybe up to $700. This chica is typically a non-pro... but it was just too easy to get cash from a gringo so she did. I'd call this gal a semi-pro. Note... if she's looking for these types of gringos and does it numerous times a year... then I'd call her a pro. Part-time Prepago's fall into this category as well. but ultimately.. if you are giving her cash for anything then she is not a non-pro... which would mean she is a pro (I guess we can say semi-pro or part-time pro). Ultimately though, money=pro.

Part-time pro is probably a correct term for semi-pro.
In my eyes... there is no such thing as a non-pro that asks for money. If she asks for money for anything, she is not a non-pro. I don't care who is sick, who died, that the cell phone got stolen, that she can't pay her rent, that she can't pay for tuition or books, etc. If she is asking for cash, she is not a non-pro. She figured out a way to make it work for 18,19, or 20 years without me paying for stuff, she needs to continue to do the same. If she asks for cash she's not a non-pro. Once you establish this mindset and she's still with you after months and months and you know for a fact that she is not sleeping with anyone else... then you have a keeper.

In response to the comment about the talent at the "Mansions" over the last 2-3 years. I've never stayed at any of these places... just as I won't over-spend for chicas, I won't over-spend for lodging. I will say though that I rarely see a photo of a chica posted on these boards that I'd jump in the sack with.. even for free. I'm pretty damn picky though. I do see an occasional pic a few times a year where I think to myself that chica is hot... but they are few and far between. Even then, I still won't over-pay.

A small story... There was a chica posted either under the mansion thread or VIP thread that I wanted to meet. I contacted the member and was told it was an Alvero chica and he gave me Alvero's number. I called Alvero and told him I would like to take out this chica on a date and if all goes well on the date, I'd most likely invite her back to my place for the night. Alvero set it up, and picked me up at the scheduled time. So in the ride to a disco I immediately start bonding with the chica. We arrive and Alvero tells me... so XYZ has told you how this works right? I say, what do you mean? He said it's ABC price for the night. I don't even remember the $$ figure but it was either 200k or 250k pesos (I don't recall). I explained to the chica in spanish and to ALevero that there must be some sort of misunderstanding as I just wanted to take the gal out on a date and if it leads to sex at the end of the night.. I.e. if we both really enjoy each other's company then she can come home with me and I'll pay her what I feel is appropriate in the morning. I really think the chica wanted to stay with me... but I was in no way going to pay to go on a date with a chica. And she was hot. So, I told them sorry for the misunderstanding and paid for her to take a cab back home, had Alvero take me back to my lodging and paid him for his time. Actually I probably overpaid her for her cab and him for his time, but I was just ready to get the heck away from this money for sex idea. I probably could have convinced the chica to just continue the date, since we were there and told Alvero here's $$X for your time and for the introduction, but I didn't. I thought in my head that this would upset Alvero and would ultimately affect him setting business up for her and there are just too many chicas for me to even waste my time with someone that is expecting $$$.

Paying money for sex is just such a rarity for me. I understand why guys do it, but these 100k, 150k, 300k, $700 stories are just mind-boggling. It was the 1 chica in the last year posted from the MEdellin boards that really I could honestly say I'd pay to fuck. But over 50k pesos??? Never. And they were in the 200k's. Moral of the story... you stay at these "Mansion" type places or deal with these cab drivers that work with gringos and you are going to over-pay considerably for chicas. You leg it on your own and well, chicas should be free but if they aren't... 50k should be the threshhold unless you like being taken to the cleaners. I will note that I thought Alvero was a very classy and friendly person that my bet is an invaluable asset to those that either don't speak Spanish or need help finding chicas. But the truth is almost every cabbie knows where to find chicas. You just have to find one you trust that won't rob you etc. But 200k pesos? Not for me. As Ricker says.. the prices others pay really have no affect on what I am going to pay. In my case, it just affected whether I was going to be with the gal in the first place or not. I probably should have realized what I was dealing with before hand and saved everyone their time in the first place. No harm done and who knows, maybe I'll run into her some time in a natural setting... and then it will be game on and it will be a freebie or instantly move on to other fish in the sea. Too many hot Colombianas to be wasting your time on those that want $$$.





Me too. I know it is commonly used here, but I have to laugh every time I hear the term "semi-pro."

It's just like being pregnant - either you are or you aren't.

I believe it is used to designate someone whose entire life doesn't revolve around being a pro. Some days (or some weeks) she does it, and some she doesn't, right?

Wouldn't "part-time pro" be a much more apprpriate term for these chicas?

DB

MiamiHeatLuver
09-17-07, 01:45
I agree.
A small story... There was a chica posted either under the mansion thread or VIP thread that I wanted to meet. I contacted the member and was told it was an Alvero chica and he gave me Alvero's number. I called Alvero and told him I would like to take out this chica on a date and if all goes well on the date, I'd most likely invite her back to my place for the night. Alvero set it up, and picked me up at the scheduled time. So in the ride to a disco I immediately start bonding with the chica. We arrive and Alvero tells me... so XYZ has told you how this works right? I say, what do you mean? He said it's ABC price for the night. I don't even remember the $$ figure but it was either 200k or 250k pesos (I don't recall). I explained to the chica in spanish and to ALevero that there must be some sort of misunderstanding as I just wanted to take the gal out on a date and if it leads to sex at the end of the night.. I.e. if we both really enjoy each other's company then she can come home with me and I'll pay her what I feel is appropriate in the morning. I really think the chica wanted to stay with me... but I was in no way going to pay to go on a date with a chica. And she was hot. So, I told them sorry for the misunderstanding and paid for her to take a cab back home, had Alvero take me back to my lodging and paid him for his time. Actually I probably overpaid her for her cab and him for his time, but I was just ready to get the heck away from this money for sex idea. I probably could have convinced the chica to just continue the date, since we were there and told Alvero here's $$X for your time and for the introduction, but I didn't. I thought in my head that this would upset Alvero and would ultimately affect him setting business up for her and there are just too many chicas for me to even waste my time with someone that is expecting $$$.

Paying money for sex is just such a rarity for me. I understand why guys do it, but these 100k, 150k, 300k, $700 stories are just mind-boggling. It was the 1 chica in the last year posted from the MEdellin boards that really I could honestly say I'd pay to fuck. But over 50k pesos??? Never. And they were in the 200k's. Moral of the story... you stay at these "Mansion" type places or deal with these cab drivers that work with gringos and you are going to over-pay considerably for chicas. You leg it on your own and well, chicas should be free but if they aren't... 50k should be the threshhold unless you like being taken to the cleaners. I will note, that I thought Alvero was a very classy and friendly person that my bet is an invaluable asset to those that either don't speak Spanish or need help finding chicas. But the truth is almost every cabbie knows where to find chicas. You just have to find one you trust that won't rob you etc. But 200k pesos? Not for me.

Your lucky he didnt try to shake you down or anything saying, "just having him bring the girl THERE he could have said warented the complete fee" and then get nasty and go down hill immediatley after that. After them finding out that there might not be an exchange of sex for money. I would not put it past them at all. Especially after the girl getting all dolled up, then finding out she's not going to get her nut, lol. Me personally never wheel and deal (if I choose to go that route) with a chick when a 3rd party is involved because you know that person wants piece of the pie as well, and then on top of that an inflated P4P chica. f-that! JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING in COLOMBIA has an ANGLE! Unfortunatley. There are no free rides on the busetas. ha ha

Winner71
09-17-07, 03:04
Very true... in fact, after he realized I wasn't going to be paying for a date, he kind of paused waiting for me to say something about paying for their time. I said I realized it took time for him to go pick up the gal etc... and then he jumped in saying actually he had the gal take a cab to a certain spot, about 4 blocks from his home... which was also about 4 blocks from where I was staying. HE said he waited for a good 20 minutes and that the cabbie that brought her missed the drop off spot and took him about 20 minutes for him to find so her cab fare was about 30k pesos. I chuckled on that saying... we just set this up an hour ago, so she couldn't have been in a cab for too long and I asked where she lived. She said way up in Bello. I said, great... I can get a cab from Poblado to Bello for 6k pesos... so I will pay Alvero 20k pesos for his time, and I will give her 30k pesos for cab fare. We were in las Palmas so I knew it would probably cost a little less than 10k pesos for her to go back and max it could have cost her was 15k pesos to get there. It probably cost her 6k pesos. Actually, I'd bet Alvero went and picked her up but who knows. As for Alvero I thought 20k pesos was fair... afterall, he got the chica set up, he picked me up with her in the car and took us to Las Palmas and then he took me back to Poblado so I didn't have to spend 4 or 5k pesos to get back. So all in all... I lost 50k pesos and that was probably about right give or take 10k pesos. The plusses for me are... 1) I learned that as you have stated, even getting a middleman involved is foolish, 2) I got to see if this chica would really kind of send my head into puppy love as I really like her pics that I saw, and 3) I got to meet Alvero.... ah and of course, if I ever run into the chica again, my bet is I get that free date. I hate wasting 50k pesos... but in the end it wasn't a horrible experience. I got the opportunity to chit-chat with Alvero for a good 30 minutes... and find out first hand what all the gringos that use his services are dealing with. Like I said, he seemed like a good guy and I'd recommend him from what I experienced. Plus his car was nice (wasn't a cab). Not a typical smelly cab that makes you want to wash your hands the moment you get out. In the end though, it's a business for him, so regardless how highly I think of him, he's only someone I would recommend as opposed to using myself as paying for chicas isn't my thing.



Your lucky he didnt try to shake you down or anything saying, "just having him bring the girl THERE he could have said warented the complete fee" and then get nasty and go down hill immediatley after that. After them finding out that there might not be an exchange of sex for money. I would not put it past them at all. Especially after the girl getting all dolled up, then finding out she's not going to get her nut, lol. Me personally never wheel and deal (if I choose to go that route) with a chick when a 3rd party is involved because you know that person wants piece of the pie as well, and then on top of that an inflated P4P chica. f-that! JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING in COLOMBIA has an ANGLE! Unfortunatley. There are no free rides on the busetas. ha ha

Cubanut
09-17-07, 06:47
IMHO I dont think that any of those girls that you are showing us are worth 300kst, To be perfectly frank, I swear Ive seen better talent by parque botero or even mayorista. And I agree 100% with WINNER'S comments. It sounds like the girls you were with were pros, its just that they are so good at it that its hardly seen by the untrained eye. Is it me or does anybody else agree that the talent in the "MANSIONS" seems to be declining over the past 2-3 years?MiamiHeatLuver,

I do not agree with your assessment in lumping the "MANSIONS" all together. The girls at the Medellin Mansion are regularly rotated thereby giving new girls ample opportunity to be added. I do agree that pictures in the previous post below seem to indicate that VIP tends to as of late been having the same girls hanging out or girls of lesser quality than before. The mere fact that the pictures show VIP girls with guts on them (fat bellies) amazes me. Even the one in the blue top has gained noticeable weight since I first met her when she was a regular dancer at Fase Dos a year and a half ago.

I do agree that there is some outstanding talent to be found near Parque Botero and definitely at Mayorista. I have passed on many a Mansion girl for a Mayorista cutie like the one below.

Cheers,

Cubanut

Cachorro
09-17-07, 09:30
I said, great... I can get a cab from Poblado to Bello for 6k pesos...
Poblado to Bello for 6k?? Maybe many years ago. But not this century.

I usually agree with your take on things, but not this time. If you wanted the introduction from Alvaro, you're using his services. When buying something, it's best to try and avoid unpleasant situations by either
1) agreeing the price of the service or product before consuming it, or
2) know the market price and pay that.

You naturally would refuse option 2, because the market price that Alvaro expects is what Mansion type foreign mongers are paying. So the fact that you didn't do option 1 is kind of vexing.

It leaves a guy like Alvaro saying, what? This guy wants to use my introduction but now he doesn't want to pay for it? And the pre-pago saying what? I turned down various other invitations because I need to earn plata for XYZ. This convencido wants me to spend my time getting dressed up and coming over here, and he thinks I'll be so enchanted with him that I'll fuck him for the outlay of a few drinks?

It just makes a poor impression on everyone involved.

JudgeSchmails
09-17-07, 21:41
"The highest I paid was 300K each for two girls, COP for semi pro action, she was a beauty, did everything, BBBJ, Anal, date, dance, drink , dinner, threesome, I do have pictures but promised them not to post, they are more than a GFE."

Was this the webcam girl/s? If so, you are correct in your assessment.

Sailor2006
09-18-07, 00:23
Its about 13-15K one way trip, from Poblado to Bello "park", sometimes there is heavy traffic during peak hours. its worth the trip though.

DetJunky
09-18-07, 01:31
"The highest I paid was 300K each for two girls, COP for semi pro action, she was a beauty, did everything, BBBJ, Anal, date, dance, drink , dinner, threesome, I do have pictures but promised them not to post, they are more than a GFE."

Was this the webcam girl/s? If so, you are correct in your assessment.Not sure what you mean by webcam girls, I met them at Mangos.

Ricker
09-18-07, 01:51
Its about 13-15K one way trip, from Poblado to Bello "park", sometimes there is heavy traffic during peak hours. its worth the trip though.

I'll just take the Metro from Poblado station to Bello ... especially during peak hours.

Nice chica watching too :)

Cabroncito
09-18-07, 02:20
I would go a step further and say I also saw a number of chicas with beer bellies at the medellin mansion last week. A disturbing trend I have noticed on the last two trips in July and Sept.

Good news though is both houses are a 5 minute taxi ride to mayorista. If you invite this fine lady back to the mansion, make sure you tell all the mansion fatties the next day you paid 20K/hr for 40 kilos of pure colombian dynamite.

She has a great personality, firm body, and does not sit around smoking, drinking, and eating pizza all day hoping for a 100K gringo jackpot,

She is easy to spot, but you will not find her at the mansions ..


MiamiHeatLuver,

I do not agree with your assessment in lumping the "MANSIONS" all together. The girls at the Medellin Mansion are regularly rotated thereby giving new girls ample opportunity to be added. I do agree that pictures in the previous post below seem to indicate that VIP tends to as of late been having the same girls hanging out or girls of lesser quality than before. The mere fact that the pictures show VIP girls with guts on them (fat bellies) amazes me. Even the one in the blue top has gained noticeable weight since I first met her when she was a regular dancer at Fase Dos a year and a half ago.

I do agree that there is some outstanding talent to be found near Parque Botero and definitely at Mayorista. I have passed on many a Mansion girl for a Mayorista cutie like the one below.

Cheers,

Cubanut

MiamiHeatLuver
09-18-07, 02:25
I would go a step further and say I also saw a number of chicas with beer bellies at the medellin mansion last week. A disturbing trend I have noticed on the last two trips in July and Sept.

This fine lady does not sit around smoking, drinking, and eating pizza all day hoping for a 100K gringo jackpot..

You can find her. But not at the mansion .. !

He He good one! Im sure the "chubbies" at the mansion would love to hear that! Whats even better while there sitting there smoking you stroll on by with your mayorista 60mil TLN and tell them the next day. 100k isnt that a little on the low side for the "mansions"?

Cabroncito
09-18-07, 02:43
He He good one! Im sure the "chubbies" at the mansion would love to hear that! Whats even better while there sitting there smoking you stroll on by with your mayorista 60mil TLN and tell them the next day. 100k isnt that a little on the low side for the "mansions"?

I never pay more than 100K for a mansion girl, but I generally avoid them and most of the girls soon realize I prefer street chicks and also have non pro amigas.

I will note however that one particularly wretched little troll tried to challenge me in front of her friends relaxing next to the pool saying that the girls at mayorista are putas and there was a program on Caracol noticias that said many have STDs.

After practically falling on the floor from laughter, I told her she was right you cant be too careful. I always wear a rubber, and avoid girls like herself that are in denial about what they do for a living because they provide the worst service, and frequently do not pay adequate attention to personal hygiene.

Later that night I blasted a big load on the face of two of her mansion friends for 100K (see pic below). Cute, but notice the extra meat on the thighs. And these were flaquitas compared to the other mansion mamitas.

Funny how the sharks turn into pussycats when they receive a dose of their own medicine.

Cabroncito
09-18-07, 03:13
No more bailey's Irish Cream y papas fritas.. We do not fly to Colombia in search of cellulitis..

Mansion girls should only be fed Aguila Light !

Also, aside from the girls with XXL thongs, I would like to thank Greg and Boyd for a fine stay at there lovely establishments.

Superboy1
09-18-07, 23:41
`wow` looking at the pics, they are getting bigger .My last trip was way back in March and that was my 6th trip in 2years. In march it was not that bad ,there was some hot bodies about. Maybe instead of some guys paying the girls money for there studies (as if they do spend it on learning LOL) ,maybe give them money for Gym memebership :-).

SuperBoy

Phunluv
09-19-07, 00:53
I know what I'm about to say is not going to be very popular, but I think a lot of guys here don't understand the local scene. When you see a local guy with 2 or 3 (or more! ) girls in a bar in Parque Lleras, rest assured he's PAYING the vast majority of the tab if not the whole thing. This is a very machista culture, the men pay because the women don't have much money. The girls spend all they have to look pretty so that the local men will keep asking them out and buy them gifts.

When a Colombian woman applies for a job a foto of her is on her resume. The interviewer will confirm where she lives and where her parents live to see what estrata she is from. Only the prettiest girls from the upper estratas get the best jobs, and even then, they're expected to do a little Monica Lewinsky occasionally with the jefes, who are, of course, always men.

So if you're looking to date non-pros or "good girls" (and I'm not exactly sure what a "good girl" means in Colombia), EXPECT to be asked for gifts. It's a way of life here, because most women have little power or significant income.

And remember, there's PLENTY of estrata 5/6 local guys who make a good living who buy gifts for the girls, take them out, have amigas they make out with and other amigas they fuck. With "non-pros", that's your REAL competition, not the other gringo mongers!

Here's my middle way approach: when a "non-pro" (whatever the hell that means) asks me for a gift the first time, I let her know RIGHT AWAY "los gringos no hacen eso" (the gringos don't believe in that). BUT. Since she's so nice and I'm such a nice guy I will buy ONE AND ONLY ONE gift for her as long as she's not greedy so choose carefully!

Unless you're a dyed-in-the-wool playa/monger like Winner71 or Ricker, this is probably your best approach. Since I monger 3-4 times a year at best, and I am no natural at pulling talent, this is my approach, I play the game the locals play but I also set parameters with the girls so she knows FROM THE GET GO I'm not a sucker. If you don't get her pussy, you will at least earn her respect and a nice makeout session as a thank-you for the gift you so "generously" bought for her. And the gift should be no more than 50K COP, otherwise, it is just not worth the trouble or hassle. You might as well spend that 50K at a casa/strip club or at Mayorista if that's your thing.

Why so many guys here are obsessed with scoring with the "non-pro" colombianas in a monger forum is beyond me. You are only fooling yourself if you think they're with you only for your company. Trust me, even with the local men, it is all about "la plata! " (the money)

In my personal opinion and experience, I'the rather only stick to make-outs with the non-pros as it keeps things less complicated.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aussie Greg
09-19-07, 14:23
I agree totally.

Aussie Greg.
P.S. I have girlfriends and they cost me more that working girls !!




I know what I'm about to say is not going to be very popular, but I think a lot of guys here don't understand the local scene. When you see a local guy with 2 or 3 (or more! ) girls in a bar in Parque Lleras, rest assured he's PAYING the vast majority of the tab if not the whole thing. This is a very machista culture, the men pay because the women don't have much money. The girls spend all they have to look pretty so that the local men will keep asking them out and buy them gifts.

When a Colombian woman applies for a job a foto of her is on her resume. The interviewer will confirm where she lives and where her parents live to see what estrata she is from. Only the prettiest girls from the upper estratas get the best jobs, and even then, they're expected to do a little Monica Lewinsky occasionally with the jefes, who are, of course, always men.

So if you're looking to date non-pros or "good girls" (and I'm not exactly sure what a "good girl" means in Colombia), EXPECT to be asked for gifts. It's a way of life here, because most women have little power or significant income.

And remember, there's PLENTY of estrata 5/6 local guys who make a good living who buy gifts for the girls, take them out, have amigas they make out with and other amigas they fuck. With "non-pros", that's your REAL competition, not the other gringo mongers!

Here's my middle way approach: when a "non-pro" (whatever the hell that means) asks me for a gift the first time, I let her know RIGHT AWAY "los gringos no hacen eso" (the gringos don't believe in that). BUT. Since she's so nice and I'm such a nice guy I will buy ONE AND ONLY ONE gift for her as long as she's not greedy so choose carefully!

Unless you're a dyed-in-the-wool playa/monger like Winner71 or Ricker, this is probably your best approach. Since I monger 3-4 times a year at best, and I am no natural at pulling talent, this is my approach, I play the game the locals play but I also set parameters with the girls so she knows FROM THE GET GO I'm not a sucker. If you don't get her pussy, you will at least earn her respect and a nice makeout session as a thank-you for the gift you so "generously" bought for her. And the gift should be no more than 50K COP, otherwise, it is just not worth the trouble or hassle. You might as well spend that 50K at a casa/strip club or at Mayorista if that's your thing.

Why so many guys here are obsessed with scoring with the "non-pro" colombianas in a monger forum is beyond me. You are only fooling yourself if you think they're with you only for your company. Trust me, even with the local men, it is all about "la plata! " (the money)

In my personal opinion and experience, I'the rather only stick to make-outs with the non-pros as it keeps things less complicated.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Gonzo
09-19-07, 16:57
I my trips to CO, I always make it a point to go to both Cartagena and Medellin. It doesn't take much time to notice that there's more flab in Medellin. I think the answer is simple - the economy of Medellin is better than Cartagena, and thus there is more available cash for dessert, clubbing, going out to eat, beer and perhaps fast food. Of course, Cartagena is also a much warmer climate, which does suppress the appetite a bit also. But while there are plenty of smoking bodies in MDE, I have to say the flacca quotient is higher in Cartagena. The truth is, there are plenty of ugly and fat women in Colombia - it's just that the percentage of beautiful, flacca and shapely women is so much higher than any other country, IMO

And in reference to Cabroncito's recent pic, below. I didn't partake, but spent a lot of close up time with both chicas recently (the one on the right called herself Alejandra). They look much chunkier in the pic than in real life. The one on the left won the recent mansion dance contest and I saw her prancing around naked, so I got a pretty good look at her form! So while I wouldn't call her flacca, there is some distortion there. I think it is true that the camera adds 10 pounds. Some of my own pix are at odds with my memory of the chicas I spent time with.

And I know, this has nothing to do with VIP, apologies for that, but wanted to comment.


`wow` looking at the pics, they are getting bigger .My last trip was way back in March and that was my 6th trip in 2years. In march it was not that bad ,there was some hot bodies about. Maybe instead of some guys paying the girls money for there studies (as if they do spend it on learning LOL) ,maybe give them money for Gym memebership :-).

SuperBoy

Sailor2006
09-19-07, 18:29
Phunluv,

I agree with you, its the way of this world.

Phunluv
09-19-07, 19:25
I agree totally.

Aussie Greg.

P.S. I have girlfriends and they cost me more that working girls !!Thanks Aussie Greg.

Actually, when I wrote about the girls doing a Monica Lewinsky with their jefe, I thought about your new assistant but I forgot to mention it as an example. ;) I'm sure she was just doing what was expected of her and what she's done in past jobs. :)

These colombianas are very affectionate and great at making you feel like a king, they look great and are great en la cama; but they are flaky in other ways, I'm surprised so many of them get married off to foreigners. Amiga/novia/amante is okay, but esposa? Yikes!

BlackSultan
09-20-07, 03:40
No more bailey's Irish Cream y papas fritas.. We do not fly to Colombia in search of cellulitis..

Mansion girls should only be fed Aguila Light !

Also, aside from the girls with XXL thongs, I would like to thank Greg and Boyd for a fine stay at there lovely establishments.They look ok to me. To each his own.

Ricker
09-20-07, 07:38
...
Unless you're a dyed-in-the-wool playa/monger like Winner71 or Ricker ...

Hey, I've never been called a "playa" before :)

But I kinda dig it! Thanx.

VipMedellin
09-23-07, 03:18
Here is some cool pics, hope you guys like them.

Escort King
09-24-07, 00:32
Here is some cool pics, hope you guys like them.Like the pair in the last shot taken at Mangoos. Now that would be a happy hour.

VipMedellin
09-24-07, 04:19
Just want to share some pics.

Winner71
09-24-07, 06:28
Angeles is a beauty


Just want to share some pics.

Regulr Travlr
09-24-07, 13:57
Good to see Kevin is keeping busy with all the personnel matters at VIP.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=80113

VipMedellin
09-29-07, 00:32
We are finally finished.

We now have three places Vip 1 has 14 rooms,wireless internet, pool, jacuzzi and cascade.

Rates from 60.00 till 150.00

Vip 2 has 5 rooms wireless internet, 2 living areas bar, jacuzzi waterfall must see it its very nicley done.

Vip 3 is out of this world I will be posting pics of it.

VipMedellin
09-29-07, 00:47
A million dollar property in Colombia it has bullet proof doors, Olympic swimimg pool marble throughout the whole place.

This was bulit by Pablo Escobar even back in his time it was called the Pablo's Escobar milion dollar apts.

You must see it to believe it. 10,000 square feet, two floors.

Escort King
09-29-07, 15:25
A million dollar property in Colombia it has bullet proof doors, Olympic swimimg pool marble throughout the whole place.

This was bulit by Pablo Escobar even back in his time it was called the Pablo's Escobar milion dollar apts.

You must dee it to believe it. 10,000 square feet, two floors.That looks good.

How much is the Penthouse Suite?

Sailor2006
09-29-07, 18:17
That place was for rent for 7 million pesos a month.


That looks good.

How much is the Penthouse Suite?

Superboy1
09-29-07, 22:37
Good bless us all, the American invasion has began.:-( anther country fucked.

Tom Cruze
09-29-07, 22:48
Just want to share some pics.Calente10 is definitely my type.

VipMedellin
09-30-07, 00:14
>This is a million dollar apartment that my partner bought it used to be Pablos´s Escobar place, 6 bedroom with jaccuzi and other ameneties like sauna, steam room huge living room everything in marble stain glass I mean it is top of the line extremely exclusive.

The most expensive penthouse ever listed in Colombia is was owned by a Pablo Escobar that explains the ultra-modern feel and the super-high-tech amenities. The duplex is totally wired, with computer-controlled sound, lighting and security systems. In the master bedroom, a plasma television that retracts into the foot of the bed. The penthouse includes 10.000 square feet, with views of the city skyline, olimpic swiming pool marble floors throughout the house bullet prof doors.

I will be posting pictures of it.

Fantasy
10-01-07, 05:43
Any chance his associates return for a little revenge! I would hate to be courting a few chicas when the place is shot up by a few guys who really don't think gringos should be enjoying Escobar's ex pad!

Phunluv
10-01-07, 06:34
A million dollar property in Colombia it has bullet proof doors, Olympic swimimg pool marble throughout the whole place.

This was bulit by Pablo Escobar even back in his time it was called the Pablo's Escobar milion dollar apts.

You must see it to believe it. 10,000 square feet, two floors.Interesting. The pics look familiar to me. I could be mixed up about this. . . but wasn't this place recently used as one of the locations in a colombian movie called "El Rey" ? That film was actually about one of the kingpins of the Cali cartel, instead of Medellin.

Can't confirm though because my bootleg copy of that movie is not loading on my DVD player anymore.

Jose Lima
10-01-07, 21:43
>This is a million dollar apartment that my partner bought it used to be Pablos´s Escobar place, 6 bedroom with jaccuzi and other ameneties like sauna, steam room huge living room everything in marble stain glass I mean it is top of the line extremely exclusive.

The most expensive penthouse ever listed in Colombia is was owned by a Pablo Escobar that explains the ultra-modern feel and the super-high-tech amenities. The duplex is totally wired, with computer-controlled sound, lighting and security systems. In the master bedroom, a plasma television that retracts into the foot of the bed. The penthouse includes 10.000 square feet, with views of the city skyline, olimpic swiming pool marble floors throughout the house bullet prof doors.

I will be posting pictures of it.


I have personaly been in and toured this property and I have to say that its one of the most lavish and exquisite home that I have ever been in. I dont want to seem like I am pumping the place up but it would easily go for between 15-20 million in miami. As a mater of fact my good friend brought a place about 1/3 the size no pool in miami for 9 million with no finishes.

This place is absolutly amazing. Albert post some real pics of this place so they can get an idea of the shear size and beauty of this place.

Fantasy
10-02-07, 06:32
And most of the girls we fuck in Colombia would be in that price range in Miami as well. Thats why we are going to Medellin! Any bullets still in the walls? Any secret compartments full of Cash?

Jellyballs
10-16-07, 02:16
I just heard that Albert has been given the boot from VIP. So is the place still in operation? If Albert is gone I would like to make a reservation.

I guess the place is now 100% owned by Muslims. Will this be a problem for Jewish people like myself?

VipMedellin
10-16-07, 07:57
Kevin would be delighted to have you there I make all of the reservations call me and I will set it up for you.

Have a great day and please read the real facts in Vip vs Mansion.


I just heard that Albert has been given the boot from VIP. So is the place still in operation? If Albert is gone I would like to make a reservation.

I guess the place is now 100% owned by Muslims. Will this be a problem for Jewish people like myself?

VipMedellin
10-16-07, 08:06
I would like to add something in regards to the last post Albert is my best friend and will continue to be so, we have known each other for a very long time we are going to continue sharing ventures for those of you who say other things just drop by and you will see.

Me and Albert are also opening a club that you guys will hear about it.

I can tell you one thing he is a very honest hardworking and has great connections in Medellin.

I hope this sets the record straight.

We are also having a thanksgivind dinner as Albert loves to do this every year you are welcomed to come.

Kevin

BeersTerry
10-16-07, 13:10
Got the boot ? Was'nt he an owner ? ....or was that all just talk ?

Jellyballs
10-16-07, 22:17
He owns that little run down house that they say is "2 blocks" from Parque Llerres but in reality is about 2 kilometers. They call it VIP 2. The big house in Envigato is owned by a couple of Muslims from Saudi Arabia although the web page says a couple of gringos.


Got the boot ? Was'nt he an owner ? ....or was that all just talk ?

Fla Fun
10-16-07, 23:31
I just heard that Albert has been given the boot from VIP. So is the place still in operation? If Albert is gone I would like to make a reservation.

I guess the place is now 100% owned by Muslims. Will this be a problem for Jewish people like myself?Actually, it would never be a problem. I have know Kevin for many years. He always treats everyone the same. He's a great host.

Just ask him for a free steak dinner LOL

VipMedellin
10-17-07, 00:05
Let me correct you: wasn't he an owner I am an owner of VIP and will continue to be so.

Thank you

Kickboxer151
10-17-07, 02:35
Kevin: Thanks for clearing up this "Bad Rumor"!

Usually people who start rumors are the jealous ones!! At least this has been my personal experience.

I know since I'm friends with you and Albert and that you both working on some great things and have some cool plans for the future. Albert told me about the 2 motorcycles you guys just bought..

Hey maybe a "rumor" will start with that too? Lol

By the way..The last time I saw you, you had 2 chicks in your room.. and I was walking out to catch a cab. Remember???

Anyway, I should be back soon. Scheesh I just left Saturday night.Didn't have time to see you as I was just in and out on business..


Be cool

KB151

Texas Slim
10-17-07, 23:18
Once again I am quite pleased with the performance given to me by Albert and his proficient assistant in obtaining my second (2) VISA. All went well with no snags as I was issued my Cedula de Extranero today at DAS by a lovely lady who handles Albert's VISA clients. Once again, it is not who you are, but rather who you know.

Thanks again to Albert and Cata for all the help at VIP.

VipMedellin
10-18-07, 07:16
jellyballs,

let's get you educated. vip 2 is one block from parque poblado. we have five rooms prices ranging from $60-$120 and includes wifi high speed internet, breakfast, laundry, vonage free calls to states and other amenities. yes we are a ten minute walk from parque lleras which can be a problem for those who are physically challenged.

i hope you will look at the enclosed photos. we are not a "little run down house" but a quiet modern almost pagoda style bungalow. we are not the place for "newbie's" but for those who know their way around, know how to meet girls on their own and who want quiet, a better location and a competitive price.

you are welcome to stop by and see for yourself. call me and i would be happy to give you the grand tour.


he owns that little run down house that they say is "2 blocks" from parque llerres but in reality is about 2 kilometers. they call it vip 2. the big house in envigato is owned by a couple of muslims from saudi arabia although the web page says a couple of gringos.

VipMedellin
10-18-07, 07:28
let me tell you about the rooms each one comes with a desk and highspeed wifi that you can use in your rooms as well as free phone calls to the states and local, free breakfast and lunch and dinner available upon request.

receptionist and maid at your disposition jaccuzi and barbecue in the back.

2 big areas with 42 inch tvs that you can relax.

the entertaiment room comes with pool table stereo, tv mounted on the wall
i have marbolized the walls also.

the bathrooms comes with the latest tech and big toilets.

high season will begin soon just wanted to post some pics of the place and also please remeber that we have apartments fully furnished available also.

for further information please pm.

free laundry.

thank you,

albert licht

Regulr Travlr
10-18-07, 19:06
He owns that little run down house that they say is "2 blocks" from Parque Llerres but in reality is about 2 kilometers. They call it VIP 2. The big house in Envigato is owned by a couple of Muslims from Saudi Arabia although the web page says a couple of gringos.

This issue was beat to death several months ago. I have gotten to know Kevin and his father very well. They are Persians. I will let you look up what country they are from. But just a hint it is not Saudia Arabia. As far as their religous preferences I do not know and do not care. It is something we never spoke of as I do not speak of mine. I guarantee you there were no prayer rugs or daily calls to prayer although I have seen Kevin sprawled on the floor late at night. LOL. But both Kevin and his father live/lived in the U.S. I do not know their citizenship status but I have never seen any American feel anything less than welcome by Kevin and Albert.

I really do not care about the ownership of the hotels I stay in. I look at the facilities, location and service. This is the same as all the talk when Aussie Greg changed his financial interest in the Mansion. WHO CARES?

BTW Jellyballs if you have been inside the "little run down house" that Albert owns I think you would describe it differently or perhaps you live in a spectacular mansion so this seems run down to you.

MiamiHeatLuver
10-18-07, 19:17
He owns that little run down house that they say is "2 blocks" from Parque Llerres but in reality is about 2 kilometers. They call it VIP 2. The big house in Envigato is owned by a couple of Muslims from Saudi Arabia although the web page says a couple of gringos.

Wow some accusations.. where are your facts and why the negative feelings?

VipMedellin
10-18-07, 21:46
Albert - thanks again for the VISA help. I just received my foreigner's cedula from DAS. I tipped both Lina as well as Catalina for their help and time. All in all it was exceptional service and a high level of professionalism throughout the process.

* By the way - I tried to leave some positive press on the ISG board, but for some reason the owner(s) are not posting my information.

* I will recommend your VISA services to anyone I may come across in the future that needs the asistance.

Regards

Jellyballs
10-18-07, 22:24
Yes, owner of VIP 2, not 1. TWO. The little shack 2 kilometers from Parque Lleres that you say is 2 blocks. Two bedroom house with no pool, small rooms and a hair dresser in the garage. Nice.


Let me correct you: wasn't he an owner I am an owner of VIP and will continue to be so.

Thank you

Jellyballs
10-18-07, 22:35
My facts are clear. Albert is full of shit and I am pointing it out.

He likes to say he is "an owner" of VIP. What this means is he owns like 2% in the company that owns VIP. The VIP mansion is owned by someone else. Albert only owns the shack they call VIP2. Therefore in his mind he is an "owner" of VIP since he owns the shack.

Now, the shack is 2 kilometers from Parque Llerras. In many of his posts he says it is 2 blocks. I do not know how they count blocks in Colombia but I doubt a block is a kilometer.

Why my negative feelings? Well, I stayed in VIP for a week about a year ago. Albert BULL-SHITTED me on several things. I do not like being BULL-SHITTED. He also was suppose to send a taxi to the airport to pick me up. When I confronted him about the no show taxi he flipped me off saying I never asked for a taxi. Again, it was BULLSHIT.

I think his business practises were unprofessional back then and when I see him in this forum I know nothing has changed.

In this forum we should share information about hacks like him who are fucking us around.

VIP had no girls.
No hot water.
Jacuzzi did not work so I guess it is a bathtub.
No A/C
Pool is cold.
Breakfast was 2 eggs and a hard piece of bread.

Albert lied about every one of these things. Every fucking one.

Yes, I am pissed. So you understand why the negative feelings?


Wow some accusations.. where are your facts and why the negative feelings?

Jellyballs
10-18-07, 23:00
What did he charge you? $400 right?

You know the visa application is two pages.

Enter your name.
Enter your address.
Where do you live in Colombia?
What religion?
Have you ever been arrested?
Do you have a contagious disease?
Have you been denied a visa before?

$400 to answer these questions.

Thanks man!

If anyone wants advise on getting a visa I will answer all your questions for FREE. YES FREE!

Right here on ISG I will answer all visa questions for FREE.

You do not have to pay Albert $400 to fill out one page of information.

I hope you did not pay more than $10 for his advise.


Once again I am quite pleased with the performance given to me by Albert and his proficient assistant in obtaining my second (2) VISA. All went well with no snags as I was issued my Cedula de Extranero today at DAS by a lovely lady who handles Albert's VISA clients. Once again, it is not who you are, but rather who you know.

Thanks again to Albert and Cata for all the help at VIP.

Whome69
10-19-07, 03:41
If these guys are not for real? I am thinking. How about this? I have NEVER visited either of Kevin's/Albert's or Greg's places and have never met anyone who has been there. However, these forums ring true consistently. I will book at the same time that you do for at least a 5 day stay with Kevin and Albert, IF you are telling the truth and Kevin's & Albert's place is a fraud, then I will pay for YOUR ENTIRE trip (airfare and lodging) However, IF you are NOT telling the truth, these guys are on the level, then you pay for MY ENTIRE trip (airfare and lodging)

I am sure we can find a Lawyer in the USA or Columbia who can hold the Money in his Trust fund.

BTW, it does NOT make any difference who holds the ownership of the property or the business operators, what the owners'/operators' nationality or their religion.

Since I live in South Texas, my airfare is about $450 plus the week in advance for the "facilities"!

Winner71
10-19-07, 08:06
Wow!! Could you kindly fill me in on this airfare of $450 from South Texas to Medellin? I'd jump on that in a heartbeat, where are you seeing this?



Since I live in South Texas, my airfare is about $450 plus the week in advance for the "facilities"!

Jericho10
10-21-07, 00:24
Albert, or anyone else,

Would you be able to provide any info on the big parties, places, events, etc, to go w/ my novia for New Year's Eve or Day in MDE? And if reservations, tickets, etc. are required? Or are Mangos, Las Palmitas, and other such clubs the places to go?

Am looking forward to ringing in 2008 in MDE.

Thanks for any info.

VipMedellin
10-21-07, 18:59
There are abunch of parties in mangos, intercontinental hotel and others as well if you would like let me know exactly what you are looking for and I will research it for you.


Albert, or anyone else,

Would you be able to provide any info on the big parties, places, events, etc, to go w/ my novia for New Year's Eve or Day in MDE? And if reservations, tickets, etc. are required? Or are Mangos, Las Palmitas, and other such clubs the places to go?

Am looking forward to ringing in 2008 in MDE.

Thanks for any info.

VipMedellin
10-21-07, 19:15
I will be posting more pics as the days go by.

VipMedellin
10-21-07, 21:02
I have it now available for rent, it has four big bedrooms with a excelent view of the city kitchen 2 huge living areas, big terrace with jaccuzi must see it to believe it
if you have any other questions please pm me.

VipMedellin
10-21-07, 21:07
I hope you guys enjoy them.

Whome69
10-22-07, 04:48
Wow!! Could you kindly fill me in on this airfare of $450 from South Texas to Medellin? I'd jump on that in a heartbeat, where are you seeing this?This the price that I checked somtime early last year (maybe even in late 2005) AND it was a sale price BUT there is one other difference. For me, Monterrey, Mexico is only 2 hours away. The prices now are now about $700. Sadly, it is cheaper to fly from the Big Northern US Cities than from places like Monterrey, Houston, or Dallas.

Winner71
10-22-07, 08:02
Albert... wow!!! That gal in #148 is stunning. Hottest gal I've ever seen you post. I don't even like big tetas but she is smoking.



I hope you guys enjoy them.

Jericho10
10-22-07, 12:54
I'm not really sure, are there New Year's Eve/Day parties in MDE like in the US, NY Times Square, etc. I'd like to take my novia out for a nice, fun New Year's Eve/Day party. Does Mangos, Las Palmitas, otro have New Year's parties that's different from their norm? Do any of these places require reservations? Or should we just go rumba somewhere?


There are abunch of parties in mangos, intercontinental hotel and others as well if you would like let me know exactly what you are looking for and I will research it for you.

Duster Egon
10-22-07, 17:33
Hey, the girl in the pic 148 is a Pro? Can I have some contact info? I think Im in love.

Escort King
10-23-07, 00:27
I have it now available for rent, it has four big bedrooms with a excelent view of the city kitchen 2 huge living areas, big terrace with jaccuzi must see it to believe it.

If you have any other questions please pm me. How much to rent for a week?

VipMedellin
10-23-07, 01:06
Everywhere you go you need to make a reservation for exception of Mangos but in reality if you are looking for something like times square it is better to go to Cartagena it is really crazy there.


I'm not really sure, are there New Year's Eve/Day parties in MDE like in the US, NY Times Square, etc. I'd like to take my novia out for a nice, fun New Year's Eve/Day party. Does Mangos, Las Palmitas, otro have New Year's parties that's different from their norm? Do any of these places require reservations? Or should we just go rumba somewhere?

VipMedellin
10-23-07, 06:17
She is a girlfriend of mine that lives in Cartagena.


Hey, the girl in the pic 148 is a Pro? Can I have some contact info? I think Im in love.

Duster Egon
10-23-07, 14:40
She is a girlfriend of mine that lives in Cartagena.You are a very lucky man. I'm trying to find some Pro that looks like your girlfriend, I mean, really really hot... a 12!

Escort King
10-23-07, 16:04
She is a girlfriend of mine that lives in Cartagena.So does she have a twin sister?

Steve 99
10-23-07, 22:58
One more for you Albert.

Who is the blond in Pic 65? Far Left.

OMG she looks like a Playboy model.

Russian?? Dutch?? Or Paisa. Damn!!!!

Winner71
10-23-07, 23:27
Yeah I missed seeing her. She is hot... and I typically can't stand blonds.



One more for you Albert.

Who is the blond in Pic 65? Far Left.

OMG she looks like a Playboy model.

Russian?? Dutch?? Or Paisa. Damn!!!!

Zander
10-24-07, 00:15
She has been uploaded to these web sites more than any other girl in Cartagena. Just call Tony the beach pimp in Cartagena and ask for Paula. If you are from Israel she only requires some white stuff.


So does she have a twin sister?

VipMedellin
10-24-07, 02:56
She is paisa she is going out with a friend of mine that is a pilot but she is nonpro.


One more for you Albert.

Who is the blond in Pic 65? Far Left.

OMG she looks like a Playboy model.

Russian?? Dutch?? Or Paisa. Damn!!!!

VipMedellin
10-24-07, 03:02
I will find you one, no problem.


So does she have a twin sister?

Ricker
10-24-07, 03:32
I like the little sweetie in numero 39. I'll take dulce (sweet) over the fake big-tittied blondes anyday ... but hey, that's just me :)

MiamiHeatLuver
10-24-07, 04:05
I like the little sweetie in numero 39. I'll take dulce (sweet) over the fake big-tittied blondes anyday ... but hey, that's just me :)

DITTO with a capital D hermano, High maintenance b itches from CIRCUS are nothing but a headache, looking for whats better around the corner always, and calling them get ready for ALOT of "BUZON DE MENSAJES" he he lol

Tom 33
10-24-07, 12:20
DITTO with a capital D hermano, High maintenance b itches from CIRCUS are nothing but a headache, looking for whats better around the corner always, and calling them get ready for ALOT of "BUZON DE MENSAJES" he he lol
Hey guys, big titted gals can be sweet as honey. But I am not a fan of plasticos.

BeersTerry
10-24-07, 13:14
Ricker,

the girl in the light blue top in photo 64 & 65. Is that the tia of a girl you once dated ? If she is'nt, she does have a remarkable resemblance.

MiamiHeatLuver
10-24-07, 14:41
She has been uploaded to these web sites more than any other girl in Cartagena. Just call Tony the beach pimp in Cartagena and ask for Paula. If you are from Israel she only requires some white stuff.

WOW thats all? lol. So much usefull information, thanks! And with your first post even. Do you have any links were we can see her uploaded "on these websites"?

Ricker
10-24-07, 18:00
Ricker,

the girl in the light blue top in photo 64 & 65. Is that the tia of a girl you once dated ? If she is'nt, she does have a remarkable resemblance.

Wow, good eye amigo! That's the tia! Imaginate!

I think I'll be seeing her again soon, my ex-novia that is. I think the family is picking us up at the airport when we arrive there soon :)

Take care.

Jericho10
10-29-07, 23:48
Albert,

Wow...Marcy, the new VIP adminstrator, is gorgeous! As well as the other girls in the pics she emailed out. Such dazzling smiles and other ummm features. Any info about her and the others? I have to admire your choice of employees and friends.

Am looking forward to my next visit to MDE in Dec.

Aussie Greg
10-30-07, 00:01
I think she´s dated half of the USA and Aussie !!!

Aussie Greg.



Ricker,

the girl in the light blue top in photo 64 & 65. Is that the tia of a girl you once dated ? If she is'nt, she does have a remarkable resemblance.

VipMedellin
10-30-07, 01:10
This is in a place that I like to go it is called "Palmitas" live music good dancers overall a good place to go.

VipMedellin
10-30-07, 01:12
When you get here just let me know what you need and I will get it for you


Albert,

Wow...Marcy, the new VIP adminstrator, is gorgeous! As well as the other girls in the pics she emailed out. Such dazzling smiles and other ummm features. Any info about her and the others? I have to admire your choice of employees and friends.

Am looking forward to my next visit to MDE in Dec.

Poor But Horny
10-31-07, 17:00
I have been reading several threads about Kevin & Albert, who owns what, whether or not the hotel is a dump or not, and various other comments.

I have several personal observations:

- If you visited last year, there was a lot of construction going on, and remodeling, so conditions were less than ideal. Sometimes no hot water (or limited for jacuzzi, I like it hotter). But the quality of materials and workmanship (when completed) turned out really nice.

- Who owns it? Who cares? I do not check public records, but it appears to me, based on who puts money into the place and uses it for their own personal gains, and who stresses out of money and repairs, that they ARE the owners.

- Nationality? Again, who cares? Does it matter if someone was born in place X and lived half there life somewhere else? If you were born in NY, moved to California when you were 5 and lived there for 30 years, are you a New Yorker?

- Some rooms have no A/C. It is Medellin, city of eternal spring. A few days get a little hot, even with the fan, and perhaps ALL rooms should get A/C at some point, but it is not like Florida. Room without A/C was inconvenient on occasion, but tolerable.

- Women: It is not a *****house, and it is not a family hotel. Putas need to be invited (which theoretically should cut down on theft and other problems), but it does mean you need to bring your own, have someone bring them to you (DominHo's), or go out.

However, on many occasions, the partying got to be TOO much late at night, keeping other guests (namely me) awake. They should keep the music down after hours (3 am is really late to still keep other guests awake).

- Breakfast is/was weak. Fruit, eggs, not much of a selection. This should be improved.

- Vonage phone. I think they need a 2nd line, since Kevin usually has the phone until the battery goes dead.

- There should be someone 24 hours. Marcy is great during the day, but if Albert is not around at night, it is difficult to get some girls.

I don't like it when ugly girls come in a taxi, and you are expected to pay the fare to send them home. A photo album collection would be nice to choose from.

El Bombero
11-02-07, 00:15
I agree with your post PBH, especially about the ownership/nationality issue. Here's a little bit more if it will help readers decide if VIP is right for them or not:

24 hours:

Daytime: Marcy will help you with whatever you want (AND she's fun to hang out with, AND she's good conversation, AND easy on the eyes.)

Nighttime: I found that there is always someone around to take care of you. If Marcy is sleeping or having a night out, Maestro will get you whatever you need delivered--liquor, food, chicas. It seems to give him a lot of satisfaction seeing guests get what they want.

Construction: I agree about the construction part. In some ways, VIP seems like a work in progress. One of these days it's going to function perfectly. In the meantime, there are some bugs, e. G. I had to spend a couple nights without much hot water and the toilet was just as temperamental as my ex--only worked when it felt like it.

Parties: definitely. If you're a light sleeper (not me), this might be rough. Try to get one of the rooms outside or in the back of the main house.

Breakfast: This was never even advertised so I was happy with getting free eggs, toast, coffee, and fruit. On the third day, I went to the store and bought some tomato, peppers, bacon and ham and the girls had no problem cooking it for me in the morning and I had no problem sharing with a couple of the other guests.

A/C: I didn't need it at night because it was pretty chilly (in the 50s F). Seemed like it could get a little warm during the day but I wasn't around.

Other services: the girls had no problem ironing my shirts, getting me more pillows/linens. Kevin always offered to run me to the store if he was going, Albert and Marcy always offered to take me out if they were going somewhere. It's kind of like a cross between a hotel and just crashing at a friend's house. I really like the casual atmosphere of the whole operation.

Finally, the other guests who happen to be in the hotel at the time factor into your experience as well. Ymmv. If they're cool, all the better.

I'm a return customer.

Regulr Travlr
11-02-07, 14:25
...I don't like it when ugly girls come in a taxi, and you are expected to pay the fare to send them home. ..

See what happens when you go to VIP and don't have Spidermonkey around? No one to take your castoffs LOL!

Malodr
11-02-07, 17:15
- There should be someone 24 hours. Marcy is great during the day, but if Albert is not around at night, it is difficult to get some girls.

I don't like it when ugly girls come in a taxi, and you are expected to pay the fare to send them home. A photo album collection would be nice to choose from.If you have someone call for Paisas, its hit or miss and the taxi is all that we are expected to pay.

Malodr
11-02-07, 17:17
I agree with your post PBH, especially about the ownership/nationality issue. Here's a little bit more if it will help readers decide if VIP is right for them or not:

24 hours:

Daytime: Marcy will help you with whatever you want (AND she's fun to hang out with, AND she's good conversation, AND easy on the eyes.)

Nighttime: I found that there is always someone around to take care of you. If Marcy is sleeping or having a night out, Maestro will get you whatever you need delivered--liquor, food, chicas. It seems to give him a lot of satisfaction seeing guests get what they want.

Construction: I agree about the construction part. In some ways, VIP seems like a work in progress. One of these days it's going to function perfectly. In the meantime, there are some bugs, e. G. I had to spend a couple nights without much hot water and the toilet was just as temperamental as my ex--only worked when it felt like it.

Parties: definitely. If you're a light sleeper (not me), this might be rough. Try to get one of the rooms outside or in the back of the main house.

Breakfast: This was never even advertised so I was happy with getting free eggs, toast, coffee, and fruit. On the third day, I went to the store and bought some tomato, peppers, bacon and ham and the girls had no problem cooking it for me in the morning and I had no problem sharing with a couple of the other guests.

A/C: I didn't need it at night because it was pretty chilly (in the 50s F). Seemed like it could get a little warm during the day but I wasn't around.

Other services: the girls had no problem ironing my shirts, getting me more pillows/linens. Kevin always offered to run me to the store if he was going, Albert and Marcy always offered to take me out if they were going somewhere. It's kind of like a cross between a hotel and just crashing at a friend's house. I really like the casual atmosphere of the whole operation.

Finally, the other guests who happen to be in the hotel at the time factor into your experience as well. Ymmv. If they're cool, all the better.

I'm a return customer.I have been to the Mansion 3 times at this point. I have met guys that have stayed at VIP and loved it and other guys that love the Mansion. I have stopped by VIP I & II and was given the tours.

Both places are fine and I suggest that everyone give each place a 2-3 day try and decide for themselves. They are 10 minutes apart.

SpiderMonkey
11-02-07, 21:07
However, on many occasions, the partying got to be TOO much late at night, keeping other guests (namely me) awake. They should keep the music down after hours (3 am is really late to still keep other guests awake).

1st off you know what goes on at these places. If you don't want to stay up and party or be kept awake, then simply stay somewhere else. As a paying customer I'm down there to bang as many chicas and party as much as I can.

This is my vaca and I will make full use of it at anyones expense!

- Breakfast is/was weak. Fruit, eggs, not much of a selection. This should be improved.

Again if your there to bang and party who cares about breakfast, . You should still be sleeping. Lunch and dinner is all ya need.

- Vonage phone. I think they need a 2nd line, since Kevin usually has the phone until the battery goes dead.

This is true. Alot of other guests tie up the phone as well. Your on vaca leave the world back home alone.

- There should be someone 24 hours. Marcy is great during the day, but if Albert is not around at night, it is difficult to get some girls.

Maestro is always there to help as well as the guy who works the gate. If you need to be led around like a child then stay home.

I don't like it when ugly girls come in a taxi, and you are expected to pay the fare to send them home. A photo album collection would be nice to choose from. [/QUOTE]Again your talking what 5k. No big deal. A photo album. This makes no sense, you don't like it when people are up partying with chicas but you want them to get a photo album. If I remember most if not at all chicas at the vip you had were provided by travlr, or albert at my or travlrs request. You did not have to join us at any time. We made things alot easier for you which seems like what you want. I like the thrill of the hunt. And wondering what the next night brings. Every night is different.

Spider

Poor But Horny
11-03-07, 07:00
Spider (and others):

First of all, I was making observations for those that have not been there, and just read the people who bash VIP and people who act as if there is nothing wrong with the place.

FYI, I have my own apartment and do not stay at the hotel. I think it is a good place, but could use improvement.


1st off you know what goes on at these places. If you don't want to stay up and party or be kept awake, then simply stay somewhere else. As a paying customer I'm down there to bang as many chicas and party as much as I can.I don't think it is unreasonable to party until a certain time, then keep the noise down (or sound-proof the guest rooms). You have to sleep at some point, and even if NOT sleeping, you want banging IN the room, not banging outside. It is quite feasible to have lots of chicas show up, party a little, pair off, and keep the noise within the rooms.

And FYI, for my trip back in August, I specifically asked to be in VIP 2 where it would be quieter, but was put in VIP 1, since everything was supposedly booked up (flower festival). It was not until the end of my stay did I find out the VIP 2 was available the whole time, and I could have stayed there.

So, my comment would be, that if you want noise, chicas, partying, VIP 1 is fine, but VIP 2 would be better if you want sleep, or staying with a regular gf. (Again, I have an apartment, so none of this applies to me at this point).


This is my vaca and I will make full use of it at anyones expense!
Gee, thanks a lot.


Again if your there to bang and party who cares about breakfast, . You should still be sleeping. Lunch and dinner is all ya need.Not everyone wakes up at the crack of noon. Personally, I think I had breakfast twice in 3 weeks, but many people, including myself, felt that there should be more. If it is raining, I would rather have a late breakfast than go out and look for other food. And yes, I kept fruit and other stuff in my fridge.[/quote]
- Vonage phone. I think they need a 2nd line, since Kevin usually has the phone until the battery goes dead.

This is true. Alot of other guests tie up the phone as well. Your on vaca leave the world back home alone.Not everyone can be on vacation 100%. Sometimes, you can get away as long as you keep in touch by phone/email. I think if you offer a service such as free vonage phone, you should be able to use it without searching for where Kevin left it, with a dead battery.[/quote]There should be someone 24 hours. Marcy is great during the day, but if Albert is not around at night, it is difficult to get some girls.

Maestro is always there to help as well as the guy who works the gate. If you need to be led around like a child then stay home.[/quote]Maestro is not always around either, and does not get the hot chicas like Albert does. And he does not speak English, so that does not help those people who do not speak Spanish. And someone going to Medellin for the first time SHOULD be led around like a child. If you go out on your own, with limited knowledge, you can get yourself in a lot of trouble. For someone unfamiliar with Colombia or speaks little or no Spanish, I think they do need more attention. There were people I met that felt "ignored". I tried to help as much as I could, but I was busy.


I don't like it when ugly girls come in a taxi, and you are expected to pay the fare to send them home. A photo album collection would be nice to choose from.

Again your talking what 5k. No big deal. A photo album. This makes no sense, you don't like it when people are up partying with chicas but you want them to get a photo album. If I remember most if not at all chicas at the vip you had were provided by travlr, or albert at my or travlrs request. You did not have to join us at any time. We made things alot easier for you which seems like what you want. I like the thrill of the hunt. And wondering what the next night brings. Every night is different.Actually, there was 1 time I paid to get rid of an ugly one, and it was like 15 or 20K because "she came from far away". As if that is my problem. And yes, the chicas at VIP were provided by Albert or you/travlr or someone else, but I don't understand what you are getting at. Whether they are "ordered" or obtained by someone or I ask Maestro or Albert, what is the difference? I don't get your point. Besides, I did fine going to Luotron and Miel y Canela during the day.

The photo album would be before the chicas arrive. A catalog of ones to call. Not have them bring one. If there are putas in a book or online to call, you have a better shot of getting something decent or more physically appealing. What did you think I meant, that the girls arrive and bring their baby pictures?

Someone pointed out that VIP is a cross between a hotel and staying at a friends house, and I think it is an accurate description. There are advantages and disadvantages to any type. A hotel will not have the same "personal" feel. A total party place may be good for some, but not others.

I think people who are going there for the first time, and who do not speak Spanish, will not enjoy it as much as people who are regular travelers or habla mucho espanol.

Marcy is bilingual which is great during the day, but gringos who speak no Spanish cannot communicate with Maestro.

I don't think my observations are incorrect, and I am not sure why it appears you "attack" me for my comments. I made observations on areas that need improvement, as well as comments from other guests who were not entirely happy. Remember, the hotel is a business, and you make money with good service.

Don't get me wrong, Albert goes out of his way to help people (my father, for one... long story with Ana Maria... but I digress). I just think people need to hear other points of view, other than "VIP is the best in the world" or "VIP is a rathole".

It is merely opinion and observation, on my part and what I heard from others. I am not sure why you "bash" me for my observations, which, by the way, you DID NOT contradict.

You said, in response to my comments:
Noise: Stay somewhere else
Food: Sleep in, eat lunch & dinner
Phone: Don't call home
Ugly girls: It doesn't cost much

Not one of your comments disputes my findings, and in fact confirms them with your responses.

I would not go into the hotel business, but if I read comments on areas to improve from past customers who are NOT bashing the place, I would evaluate and react accordingly.

Noise: Ask guests what they want, put them in VIP 1 or VIP 2 (or quieter rooms).
Food: Why not improve it? They have a fridge, they have kitchen help. They could even implement some lunch/dinner choices so you don't have to go out between boff sessions or if its raining. have take-out menus available (pizza, chinese, etc).
Phone: $25/mo more for extra line.

Ugly girls: Only call the known ones, or let the new girl trying to break into the business use her own money. If she is worth it, someone will pay. If not, go back to a real job.

Jericho10
11-04-07, 02:14
I'm also mostly in agreement w/ PBH, but don't want to cause any rants w/ those who disagree...to each his own. I've stayed at MM, VIP 1 & 2. I made the same constructive comments about the late night noise and breakfast to the VIP management a year ago after my VIP1 stay.

Why do late night partiers have to turn up the stereo volume to the max, yell, and leave the stero on blaring after they've retired to their rooms w/ their chicas for more fun? I would guess if someone turned up the TV/stere volume up to blaring for a morning party w/ some chicas/friends, these same late risers would be the first to complain, and very loudly. Because of this, I won't stay at VIP1 any more, but have and will stay at VIP2 (and also MM) again.

And it wouldn't take hardly any effort to make omelets for breakfast, since they already have the ingredients. I and others thoroughly enjoyed the morning omelets at MM.

One other place where VIP1/2 could improve is by providing more info about their various rooms and apartments. On their website would be the best place....it needs a lot of improvement in this area. Additonal information such as proximity/distance to well known places, nearby stores and restaurant, other. Although VIP2 has received criticism about distance to Parque Lleras, IMHO it's an ok walk (not 2 blocks though). And Existos is within walking distance also, not 2 blocks, but doable for a 50 YO like me. And there's a nice restaurant across from Exitos. All of these, plus the noise factor, are IMHO big pluses for VIP2, and is good info for a MDE traveler. Similar comments about stores, restaurants, etc., that are close to VIP1 are also applicabe. MM provides an info packet in the rooms...VIP1/2 should do the same.

Just my 2 cents. And I'll be looking for my own apt in the future, but certainly tip my hat off to MM and VIP for everything they've done well.

Winner71
11-04-07, 19:22
I think this is a fantastic post. Give's readers what they need to hear... i.e. not a bias one way or the other. And it gives the owner's the opportunity to fix their errors/faults... which would be very minimal.

I too think a website/catalog of the chicas is a great idea. I've thought about this quite a bit. If you call a pro and then change your mind when she arrives should you really be expected to give her taxi money? A Colombian wouldn't. I think 10k pesos max should be the standard... I.e. 5k each way. If it's not enough for a taxi to return, there are buses, the Metro etc. Honestly, it's the cost of doing business as far as I'm concerned.

Now I'm talking "pros" in the above. The chicas I meet out and about and don't pay for sex, of course I pay their cab fares.


Spider (and others):

First of all, I was making observations for those that have not been there, and just read the people who bash VIP and people who act as if there is nothing wrong with the place.

FYI, I have my own apartment and do not stay at the hotel. I think it is a good place, but could use improvement.

I don't think it is unreasonable to party until a certain time, then keep the noise down (or sound-proof the guest rooms). You have to sleep at some point, and even if NOT sleeping, you want banging IN the room, not banging outside. It is quite feasible to have lots of chicas show up, party a little, pair off, and keep the noise within the rooms.

And FYI, for my trip back in August, I specifically asked to be in VIP 2 where it would be quieter, but was put in VIP 1, since everything was supposedly booked up (flower festival). It was not until the end of my stay did I find out the VIP 2 was available the whole time, and I could have stayed there.

So, my comment would be, that if you want noise, chicas, partying, VIP 1 is fine, but VIP 2 would be better if you want sleep, or staying with a regular gf. (Again, I have an apartment, so none of this applies to me at this point).

Gee, thanks a lot.

Not everyone wakes up at the crack of noon. Personally, I think I had breakfast twice in 3 weeks, but many people, including myself, felt that there should be more. If it is raining, I would rather have a late breakfast than go out and look for other food. And yes, I kept fruit and other stuff in my fridge.

VipMedellin
11-06-07, 02:48
These are photos in Mangos on Halloween.

VipMedellin
11-06-07, 02:56
We had a great time!

Judge for yourself.

Jerry 1968
11-07-07, 02:47
I hope you guys enjoy them.Please cell number or contact this girl.

Andres28
11-08-07, 04:32
Just want to share some pics.Hello,

Anyone knows where can I found CARO, the girl in the 3th photo.

I'm in Medellin, and I want to meet her.

VipMedellin
11-09-07, 03:08
Which girl are you taking about the 3 rd photo where give me here code number in the photo.


Hello,

Anyone knows where can I found CARO, the girl in the 3th photo.

I'm in Medellin, and I want to meet her.

Pedro Guti
11-17-07, 01:12
Hello! Where could I find this perfect "rubia" with fake tits in the halloween pics 33? Cell. Msn?

Thanks

VipMedellin
11-23-07, 18:19
To any member interested the thanksgiving dinner will be tonight at my house
for more info pm me.

I will post some pics of the dinner tommorow

Regulr Travlr
11-24-07, 17:15
Hey Albert, Thanks for the invite. It was great to see you and many of my amigos y amigas again. Here's a couple of photos of the chicas we "rescued" at the party and took them away for some private fun! Great time had by all (from what I can remember!).

SpiderMonkey
11-25-07, 16:39
Travlr,

Looks like the #2 and #3 special .:D

Spider

OptimusPrime
12-15-07, 18:49
I guess Albert says that she is his gf. LOL. I can confirm that she is a pro and a cool chica. Just head to Cartagena.

Sailor2006
12-15-07, 22:30
Dude,

If your trying to imply that some chica is pulling the wool over Albert's eyes, then you are dead wrong. That guy is pure bussniess and she's just some piece of ass to him.


I guess Albert says that she is his gf. LOL. I can confirm that she is a pro and a cool chica. Just head to Cartagena.

OptimusPrime
12-16-07, 00:25
Ah No, my point is that some board members asked if she was a pro and he denied it. Either he was trying to say she was a non-pro and he could get non-pros that look like that or he has a loose term of the word girlfriend.

Tony D
12-16-07, 01:30
Obivously OP doesn't know Albert that well.

When I was there in Oct, she was cooking, cleaning and banging him. And in the end, she paid him for staying at his house for a week. Now that is a deal.

TD


Dude,

If your trying to imply that some chica is pulling the wool over Albert's eyes, then you are dead wrong. That guy is pure bussniess and she's just some piece of ass to him.

Jerry 1968
12-16-07, 02:28
Obivously OP doesn't know Albert that well.

When I was there in Oct, she was cooking, cleaning and banging him. And in the end, she paid him for staying at his house for a week. Now that is a deal.

TDHow do I contact this chica?

OptimusPrime
12-16-07, 03:38
You guys are so damn naive. Great girl, been there done that. She is a working girl, a hot one at that.

Sailor2006
12-17-07, 02:20
Didn't mean to come off like an ass to op, I was just saying its silly who cares if she is a pro or non pro or who knew it, or who didn't. Everybody wins and everybody looses, its all a matter of time.

Casa Medellin huh, another gringo hotel, shit they multiple, hopefully they will start a price war, price war! 20 bucks night, in fact everybody on this board should demand 50% price reductions asap! Because we are the customers we are like 60% of there market< and if we could stop thinking of pussy for 10 seconds we can stop this 80 buck a night bullshit!

I think I am dreaming though, no way we could all do that!

Casa Medellin
12-17-07, 02:37
I tried to PM you her cell number and email address but the system says you cannot receive messages.


How do I contact this chica?

Duster Egon
12-17-07, 05:48
I tried to PM you her cell number and email address but the system says you cannot receive messages.You can send those to me? I will appreciate that.

OptimusPrime
12-17-07, 18:08
For me, it just seems bizarre to give personal information of a girl to a complete stranger. If I know the fellow hobbyist, of course I would give him the information if the guy is not a weirdo but there are some absolute creepy fucks on this site and no way would I give somebody I never met any information about a girl. Not making judgments about others who do it but.

I mean what are you guys expecting to do? (especially for those guys that don't speak Spanish) "Ah, I know you don't know me but a guy from the internet gave me your number and I want to meet you. Do you do anal, BB services etc and how much". These girls are pros but they are also human. Like I said, creepy fuck maneuver to call a girl you never met.

Casa Medellin
12-18-07, 00:16
For 3 years she has sat on the beach in Cartagena while Tony the Beach Pimp randomly calls up people she has never seen in order for her to go fuck them. She goes over to these people's apartments and in 10 minutes is sucking their cocks. And she pays Tony for doing this!



For me, it just seems bizarre to give personal information of a girl to a complete stranger. If I know the fellow hobbyist, of course I would give him the information if the guy is not a weirdo but there are some absolute creepy fucks on this site and no way would I give somebody I never met any information about a girl. Not making judgments about others who do it but.

I mean what are you guys expecting to do? (especially for those guys that don't speak Spanish) "Ah, I know you don't know me but a guy from the internet gave me your number and I want to meet you. Do you do anal, BB services etc and how much". These girls are pros but they are also human. Like I said, creepy fuck maneuver to call a girl you never met.

Tom 33
12-18-07, 11:41
For me, it just seems bizarre to give personal information of a girl to a complete stranger. If I know the fellow hobbyist, of course I would give him the information if the guy is not a weirdo but there are some absolute creepy fucks on this site and no way would I give somebody I never met any information about a girl. Not making judgments about others who do it but.

I mean what are you guys expecting to do? (especially for those guys that don't speak Spanish) "Ah, I know you don't know me but a guy from the internet gave me your number and I want to meet you. Do you do anal, BB services etc and how much". These girls are pros but they are also human. Like I said, creepy fuck maneuver to call a girl you never met.
You are out in left field. The girl can refuse any invitation she chooses at any time. She can also choose not to answer her phone at any time.

Many of them ask me to give their numbers out. They don't have to pay any commissions that way. Once a girl asked me to post photos and her number on this site. I did that for her.

OptimusPrime
12-18-07, 18:33
Don't have a problem giving out numbers to help the girl avoid paying pimp commission. The problem is that you are giving out a number to someone you never met and have no clue about them. Trust me, there are some borderline serial killer types on these boards and I just couldn't give numbers to someone via the net.

Cornbread88
12-20-07, 05:57
I stayed at VIP from Dec 6. Dec 15. Was my first trip to Medellin.

I requested a taxi pick me up at the airport and the driver was at the airport when I arrived.

VIP is really like staying at a friends house for your trip. There is a large living area with a pool table. Marcy and Kevin speak perfect English and were always there to help out with anything I needed. If they were going to the store they always asked if I needed anything or if I wanted to go. If they were cooking something they always asked if I wanted some. If they went out and got chicken they always made sure to get enough for everyone.

I had a great room for $60 a night. Very comfortable beds.

Breakfast. Just say you would like some eggs, chorizo and toast and the maids will cook it up for you right away. A simple 1000 COP tip was given. If there weren't any eggs I would just walk down the street to the Carulla grocery store and get some and they would cook breakfast for everyone.

Laundry. Halfway through my trip I asked the maids to do my laundry. Tipped them 2000 COP and my laundry was done that day and was folded up in my room when I got back that night.

24 hour staff and security on site. Has a metal gate that is only opened for a guest of the hotel.

A lagoon is being built in the back with a hot tub.

There are no girls hanging around but a simple request to the Maestro and you will have company in no time. Kevin said the joke is that if you need a dominos pizza delivered (dominos is right down the road) it will be there in 1 hour. If you need a chica she will be there in 20 minutes. Independents that you negotiate things with.

Need a taxi? Just ask someone and a taxi will be there within 3 minutes. Lots of taxis driving by the hotel as well.

There is a couple small stores right down the street. There are 3 ATM's nearby. One in the Carulla grocery store and 2 in the La Frontera mall which is right down the street. 2 of the 3 gave 500, 000 COP per day.

I walked from the Oveido Mall to VIP with no problems at all. Envigado is a very exclusive suburb.

Free calls to the US on the International phone line. Free internet on the computer that is there. They will rent you a cell phone for your trip no problem.

My basic room had a phone and a TV that got 60 or so channels. DVD player in the main room.

I had a chance to see VIP 3. Immaculate.

I want to say Thank You again to Marcy and Kevin for making my trip very smooth.

Marcy, say Hello, to my future wife for me.

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Tom 33
12-20-07, 12:07
There are 3 ATM's nearby. One in the Carulla grocery store and 2 in the La Frontera mall which is right down the street. 2 of the 3 gave 500, 000 COP per day.
Every ATM in Colombia will give you as much as your home bank will allow per day. The ATMs have transaction limits of 200 to 500K. If you want more than you can get in one transaction, do a second transaction.

Colombian banks charge their customers on the order of a dollar per transaction. My CapitalOne debit card has no fees nor does it have any international transaction fees. My Colombian bank account(BBVA) charges me 7200 pesos per month to use my money. I do not use my BBVA ATM card.

Cornbread88
12-21-07, 06:39
Thanks for the correction Tom.

I meant to say 500,000 cop per transaction.

Far Medellin
12-22-07, 21:34
Actually you can go to citibank and pull put 800.000 if anyone needs to know how pm me and I will explain.

Belldude2
01-04-08, 04:44
[QUOTE=Ricker]I've found it works both ways actually.

An experienced guy knows immediately which chicas are the TIBURONES (sharks) and know how to handle them appropriately.

Sometimes it's fun to play with them a bit. Sometimes you can "turn them". Get them to dig you a bit. Maybe get a freebie. GFE.

With the same chica, some guy pays 300K pesos and gets negotiated mechanical sex, and the smarter, smoother guy can get it for free or low cost. And with mas carino. It takes the ability to shmooz a bit, doesn't matter if you're GQ style or Mad Magazine, if they dig ya, they dig ya.

OF COURSE there are the chicas that are "un-turnable".complete sharks. They talk only. Money, money, money.

That's easy, just leave them. Immediately. There's always another chica around the corner.

Most of the chicas though are just that, girls. And "turnable".

As far as chicas. Non-pros. If they start asking for material things or money, do yourself a favor and ditch them.

They are nothing but pros in disguise. But worse. They like to play with your heart too.

Nothing against the dude that pracically paid $700 in material things, just to lay down with a chica. But was it worth it? Most likely not. And she will only expect more of the same.

I often take chicas to the mall. Non-pros. It's a GREAT excersise to see how a chica reacts.

If she starts asking for things. "por favor mi amor, me encantan estos zapatos". You know what you've got on your hands.

If you offer to buy her something, that's OK.

If she says NO, that she can find it cheaper in el Centro. You've got a good one.

I am totally in agreement. I have found some fantastic diamonds in the rought here and there. One I found in Cart down by Hotel Caribe when I was just walking around. She was actually selling Jewelry and kept calling out to me. But I just smiled and waved a couple of times and kept going. Later, around 10p, down by McDs, she was walking around and then started talking to me. We talked for a while and she kept hinting about a massage, and finally I said "ok, come with me". She was a 98 lbs darker hottie with an amazing ass and incredible legs and nice suckable nipples, but it was her personality that got me. She never once asked me for money even after our 2. 5 hour session. I gave her 50k and then 10k for a cab and she seemed happy and even asked if we could go out the next day and night, but alas I was on my way to Baranquilla the next morning to meet someone else. On the other hand, I have met total non pros that wanted me to buy them the world. To which I said. C-YA! Don't fall into their traps. Stay aloof and get the best for less. Sharks arent worth it.

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Greetings,

It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.

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Justafool
01-04-08, 17:26
I was able to take out 800.000 each time with Citibank in Sucre and San Diego. Citibank will soon be charging 2% for all no US transactions even at the a Citibank ATM.


Actually you can go to citibank and pull put 800.000 if anyone needs to know how pm me and I will explain.

Justafool
01-04-08, 17:28
I was also able to take that 800.000 out four times on two different occassions. (My daily limit for Citibank is $2000 US.


Actually you can go to citibank and pull put 800.000 if anyone needs to know how pm me and I will explain.

MiamiHeatLuver
01-05-08, 05:11
I was also able to take that 800.000 out four times on two different occassions. (My daily limit for Citibank is $2000 US.You can find a good CITIBANK that if stocked will give you a MILLION.

Escort King
01-05-08, 06:18
You can find a good CITIBANK that if stocked will give you a MILLION.I have gotten over a mill from the ATM at the Blockbuster.

Too Jaded
01-25-08, 03:02
In sincere appreciation for active and prior Military Service Members we at the VIP are extending our sincere appreciation for your outstanding dedication and sacrifice to your country. Is this offer still valid? Will it also apply to the Master suites?

I am hoping to arrive on Monday, a bit last minute but I hope you stillhave some room available!

2J

Mangera
01-25-08, 20:56
I heard that the VIP is thinking about converting their hotel establishment into business offices. Does anyone know if this is true or if their is any validity to this?

Too Jaded
01-25-08, 23:53
Can someone please explain the whole VIP1 versus VIP2 and who is running what? Is VipMedellin Albert or someone else? I just made a reservation for VIP1 and want to make sure I don't wind up at a family resort when instead instead I want to meet some of the fine ladies (or genetic equivalent) I've seen posted here.

I've read through the threads in search of my own answers, but as you all know it is 1% substance at best and becomes tedious after a few hours.

Too Jaded
01-26-08, 01:11
I heard that the VIP is thinking about converting their hotel establishment into business offices. Does anyone know if this is true or if their is any validity to this?I just got an email from Marcy when I inquired about the VIP1 vs VIP2 and who's running what debacle, and got the following: "This is VIP 1. Albert used to run this one, now I believe he`s doing real estate, I see him here occasionally."

Meanwhile though we see VipMedellin posting like nothing ever happened, which is why I posted my previous post asking if he was still Albert or if the handle was taken over by someone else (Kevin?).

Perhaps VIP 1 lives on but VIP 2 is being converted into rental space?

2J

Aussie Greg
01-26-08, 15:01
I heard yesterday that the deal to sell VIP 1 fell through.

VIP 2 being converted into rental space, VIP 1 for sale?

Aussie Greg

Far Medellin
01-27-08, 16:33
Let me clearify everything for you guys Vip one is a Hotel and will continue to be so Kevin and Marcy operate it and I ALBERT continues to send clients there.

VIP 2 is my place and yes it is a hotel also and I have my realetate offoice as well hope that this will clear it for everybody.

I also have 7 furnished apartments to rent if you need inquiries please pm me thank you very much and have a nice day.

Too Jaded
01-29-08, 20:12
I arrived yesterday and was picked up without hassle as Marcy made sure Alejandro was at the airport waiting for me. A half hour later we arrive at the hotel where I met Marcy and she gave me a tour of the facilities. She is a very good AA and immediately establishes a 'stay at a good friend's house' mentality.

As an aside, Marcy is one of the most stunning women I have met in a long while; while I am a decent enough looking 30-something, standing next to her made me feel like a genetic mutant. She also lacks the pretension you might expect of such a stunner and also smart and lots of fun to talk with. So out of my league. She is an argument FOR human cloning.

I met Kevin the owner last night as well, and he too establishes a very welcome atmosphere. He invited me to ride with him and the ladies to the store and then we made a quick stop at his new Pablo Escobar mansion apartment.

Overall I am very comfortable here. It is not a full service hotel per se, although they have a cleaning staff and Marcy is usually here and can help you with anything. It is instead more like a rental condo with Marcy being the manager. It is a perfect place for those who want a nice, relaxed atmosphere and not feel like your in a hotel, and is a good choice for the gringo with limited spanish skills.

I'll port some final thoughts when I leave next week.

2J

Teshy
01-30-08, 04:57
Wohoo my first post.

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]It is a perfect place for those who want a nice, relaxed atmosphere and not feel like your in a hotel, and is a good choice for the gringo with limited spanish skills.

2J, I was reading that VIP is the opposite, since there aren't really any ladies around and you have to go on the hunt or of course have someone phone call for them to come. I lack any Spanish speaking skill as well but like the idea of a good looking place and atmosphere.

Can you elaborate how you met the ladies and such. I'm a younger bloke as well, but I want top notch gals, which appears I see everywhere in Medellin from the pics anyway. I'm just hesitant with language barrier and "negotiating".

Thanks for any feedback,

Koz

Cornbread88
01-30-08, 06:41
Koz,

During my stay I just had Maestro call chicas for me on the nights I didn't go to the strip clubs. For daytime action just hail a cab outside the hotel (tons of cabs driving past at all hours or VIP can call one for you no problem) and go to the casas around town during the day.

Too Jaded
01-30-08, 17:32
I haven't stayed at MM so I cannot speak empirically in regards to which is better, MM or VIP. I am not fluent in spanish, but here both Marcy and Kevin speak English and helped me figure out basics. From there I ventured out and just did what I could. But it is a bit intimidating since so few people speak English as a fallback.

At the clubs none of the chicas I met spoke any English. But between spanglish and pointee-talkee I had no problem. Attitude goes a long way. But if you speak ZERO spanish then MDE is probably not the best place to start in Colombia. Understand, you don't have to speak good spanish, just have a decent vocabulary and use all present tense with the verbs and they will understand what you mean.

I would recommend that someone who does not speak good Spanish practice basic conversational and survival spanish before they get here, and I would also recommend you get a travel guide, Kevin or Marcy can help. They usually cost $10/hr, maybe you can get daily rates, but you have the peace of mind that you'll get access to all the areas without hassle.

For example I have had Alejandro take my out my first night and yesterday afternoon to show me how to use the Metro and also get my bearings in this city. I now feel comfortable enough that I can venture out and find my way back.

It is really up to your comfort level. I have been traveling to many strange countries for 15 years and am used to feeling like a fish out of water. You may not be so adventurous.

2J

Traylor Park
02-02-08, 03:54
I have recently returned from Medellin and would like to report that my stay at ClubVIP Hotel was very pleasant. The staff, starting with Marcy is very friendly and helpful. The rooms are very nice and the overall ambiance of the hotel is very pleasant. The hotel was booked due to Colombitex convention that week. I had the pleasure of meeting some interesting guests staying at the hotel during my stay.

The hotel is located in a very quiet residential area, a short walk downhill to Avenieda Poblado, where you will find Frontera Mall where you can find two ATM if you are in need of cash.

As mentioned in my review of La Casa Medellin. I also enjoyed my stay at ClubVIP due to fact that it's not just a monger hotel. The other guests usually make my stay more interesting and pleasurable, especially over a breakfast and coffee in the morning.

I would definitely recommend ClubVIP Hotel to anyone interested in traveling to Medellin.

Thomrn10
03-26-08, 05:41
I stayed and enjoyed myself at the VIP last year and am now turning my attention back to Colombia after a few trips to southeast Asia.

What is the current state of affairs when there is no post for the past few months? Still recommended?

Sailor2006
03-27-08, 23:42
Vip club 1 has a new owner and has had a few rooms added with changes to the pool, the garage is 2 bedrooms, and the "harley davison" room is now 4 bedrooms plus another bedroom added where the office is plus the orginal 4 bedrooms and the 2 master bedrooms. Kevin is the owner and operator now along with marcy who replaced lina I'll post the e-mail for you so you can talk to them about rates and such, ooh the pool is gone and is now a sunbathing island and a juccuzzi. The establishment is for rent, I don't know anymore.

Good luck.

Thomrn10
03-28-08, 21:48
Sailor, thanks for the information along with your other reports.

The place doesn't sound the same and I can't tell if that is good or bad. I guess the other consideration is if people are staying there and enjoying themselves...ie I wonder what the vibe is like. Kevin used to be in the background and now that he is front and center, is that a good thing?

Perhaps Kevin would like to weigh in on this one.

I will still end up in Medellin sometime in May. Safe travels.

Aussie Greg
03-29-08, 04:36
I heard that Marcie is working at El Castillo/Mansion?

Aussie Greg

Sailor2006
03-29-08, 17:30
hotelvip@gmail.com

BeersTerry
03-29-08, 21:16
There is a VIP 1 with the nice house in Envigado. Run by Kevin (who bought out Tom)
There is a VIP 2 which is also another business run by Albert, former partner / employee of Tom and now Kevin.

Far Medellin
04-12-08, 18:44
This is our new website please check it:

http://www.medellin-vip-hotel.com/
http://www.medellinautorentals.com/
http://www.penthouses-medellin.com/
http://www.visascolombia.com/

We are working on two more coming soon if you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

Superboy1
04-12-08, 21:00
Atlast Car Rental in Medellin, nice idea Albert.

Superboy

Vip Hotel
04-14-08, 16:59
The correct website for the penthouses is:

www.medellin-penthouses.com

Vip Hotel
04-14-08, 17:01
SuperBoy:

This week I will add one more vehicle and a motorcycle plus a boat in Guatape which is a lake nearby.


Atlast Car Rental in Medellin, nice idea Albert.

Superboy

Escort King
04-15-08, 15:29
The correct website for the penthouses is:

www.medellin-penthouses.comThe penthouse prices seem reasonable.

Now do you get to party at VIP also?

Tom 33
04-15-08, 22:31
SuperBoy:

This week I will add one more vehicle and a motorcycle plus a boat in Guatape which is a lake nearby.Guatapé is the next city past el Peñol, the big rock. The lakes in the area were formed by dams built to form a reservoir for the Medellín water supply. The whole area is spectacular.

Vip Hotel
04-17-08, 00:41
That is correct Tom it is out of site.

We have a couple of farms and boats upthere for anyone who wants to go there also a friend of mine has a 23 meter boat hotel with a disco on top jaccuzzi, you can sleep about fifteen people one hell of a party boat.


Guatapé is the next city past el Peñol, the big rock. The lakes in the area were formed by dams built to form a reservoir for the Medellín water supply. The whole area is spectacular.

Sandman0011
04-18-08, 16:03
And the Sirena Hotel at www.elpenoltours.com

American owned and very girl friendly.

What a great party weekend for a few friends with some chicas in tow.

He may be offering an all inclusive in the near future!


That is correct Tom it is out of site.

We have a couple of farms and boats upthere for anyone who wants to go there also a friend of mine has a 23 meter boat hotel with a disco on top jaccuzzi, you can sleep about fifteen people one hell of a party boat.