Manila Hotels

[Tally Wacker]

website.

http://www.stgilesmanila.com/

At the suggestion of Wicked Roger, I just booked in St. Giles Hotel, Makati for 7 nights, for my October trip. Just to let you guys know that pricewise you will do much better if you book through the hotel website directly instead of Agoda.

I booked a Deluxe room for an average of 3, 177 Peso (about $77 assuming exchange rate of 41 peso to a dollar) per night including all taxes. Agoda is advertising the same room for $83 without tax, which will come to $102 with tax. The room comes with in-room safe and free internet. No breakfast. If you want to go a little cheaper, the Superior room will cost you about 2, 606 peso or roughly $63 including tax per night. I opted for Deluxe mainly to have a refrigerator in the room. It is a little bigger and has bathtub in addition to shower as compared to the Superior room.

Bandy.

PS: Just realized that the post #1737 below also mentioned about the higher pricess on the Agoda website.I stayed at st. Giles for 17 days recently and had booked the superior room. I paid for early check in but when I arrived there was no room available so they put me in a larger room for the day until my room was ready. After I unpacked and got relaxed I did not want to change rooms so I asked the front desk if they could keep me in that room and they did at no upcharge. If you don't ask then you don't get.

I like the hotel because of the location and price but there are a couple things I don't like. The bar in the restaurant area is not much of a bar and the atmosphere sucks. I was meeting alot of regular girls and I like to meet them in the bar first and have a few drinks before moving it to the room. The other big problem with the hotel is the plumbing! When everyone in the hotel takes a shower at the same time in the morning the temp goes from scalding hot to cold and there is no pressure. When I complaind they offered to move me to another room. Its the same problem in every room.

If you don't want to pay the high laundry prices at the hotel there is a laundry place named Dirty Talk behind the hotel that is very cheap and good. You can even have your laundry back in a few hrs for double price and its less than the hotel. Go through the little alley behind the hotel and turn left and its a a couple of businesses down. The owner and his mom are very nice people. You can get to the atm machine that way to without having to deal with the street beggars.

Theres also a great liquor store behind the hotel next door to the korean restaurant that supplies most of the bars in burgos with their alchohol. The prices are great and they have a huge selection plus groceries, snacks and cell loads. No need to fend for your life crossing the street to 7-11.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

It's a drive-in system. You can come in a taxi or your own car, but you literally drive-in, park in an enclosed garage, pay the fee to the attendant, he will close the garage door and then you can walk directly into your room. When you are finished, just call the front desk and they will send someone to open the garage, they will give you a check-out slip and you drive out. No check-in. No names. The perfect "No Tell Motel" setup. If you don't have a car and have have already checked-in previously as an overnight guest, then you just drive in directly, but it really makes the most sense when you come in your own car. These hotels are designed specifically for short-time sex. The staff see couples coming in and out all day long and would be suspicious if you didn't come with a girl. Again, the locals use these places because they want absolute privacy so they can conduct their affairs (literally) with discretion.

I generally would recommend CB if you are just trying to avoid the walk of shame. Location is better than the fuck hotels and the rooms are completely fucktional (as I can attest as I have "christened" just about every 2-floor suite with my holy water). Enjoy, AsianRainGot it. Thanks again mate. Unfortunately, I won't have a car. Suppose I could try just walking in through the garage. I'll take your advice and give the Cherry Blossom a try first though. You're right, a bit steep on the price, but for privacy, worth it, I guess. Appreciate the help!

[Cunning Stunt]

Got it. Thanks again mate. Unfortunately, I won't have a car. Suppose I could try just walking in through the garage. I'll take your advice and give the Cherry Blossom a try first though. You're right, a bit steep on the price, but for privacy, worth it, I guess. Appreciate the help!You could, of course, stay at Eurotel on Pedro Gil, almost opposite Robinsons Mall. Its a hybrid. A proper hotel with 24 hour guests that is also a ST hot sheeter. So the staff are used to various nefarious comings and goings and your walk won't be so shameful. Rooms are plain and functional with an in-room safe. Only big minus is the lack of a window.

[Red Kilt]

No 'walk of shame'

OK, so I really hate walking through a lobby or even past a grinning security guard with my lady for the evening. Can someone please tell me if there are any hotels, aparetelles, condos, with a private entrance in Manila? Preferably Malate area, but would also possibly consider Makati if not too expensive.You have been around the world GG so I am surprised that you would think of wanting to stay in a hotel that allowed access without passing by any security and, ESPECIALLY in the Philippines - anywhere.

If you can get in without anyone seeing you then so can anyone else including riff raff.

If you plan to butterfly, you just might find that the clingy woman from the night before is tapping on your door wanting a repeat when you have another woman with you.

All the tips you have received here are good ones. I would stay at Eurotel if I were you. The rooms are good; reasonably priced for longer stay, and even the "hot sheet" rooms are still comfy with good cable TV, aircon, safe etc

[Soapy Smith]

Only big minus is the lack of a window.Many rooms also have only one electric outlet, which gets a little crowded if you have a laptop, phone charger, or anything else to plug in simultaneously. There's a second plug for the TV, but signs say an alarm will go off if you unplug the TV. (I hope I didn't confuse Pedro Gil rooms with Quezon City Eurotel.) I never tested it.

Big bonus: free breakfast, for what it's worth, but a great opportunity to check out other guys' LTs from the previous night. This can also make for an embarrassing comparison if your own LT was obtained under the fog of beer goggles.

There's so much traffic in and out, including other mongers and their entertainment, that it doesn't much feel like a walk of shame. If you check in for a day or more you can tell them you will be joined by a girlfriend and ask for two breakfast tickets-unless they're not doing tickets now, in which case breakfast staff will just ask you what room the two of you are in. Staff are so accustomed to short time customers that they don't ask questions and don't give annoying looks.

[Hellas]

Can anyone tell me if AIM Conference Center Manila in Makati is guest friendly?

[X Man]

Well, if the Catholic church's nun association is having a conference at that time, you might have an uncomfortable visit. You didn't so much as give the web site. Why are new comers so selfish? Looking at the web site pics, I'm guessing this place is a bit worn out.

http://www.accm.aim.edu/


Can anyone tell me if AIM Conference Center Manila in Makati is guest friendly?

[Red Kilt]

Can anyone tell me if AIM Conference Center Manila in Makati is guest friendly?This is a conference facility. Horrible small spring beds with thin mattresses and typical college-type boarding rooms.

I have stayed there a few times for seminars.

I would certainly not want to bring back a guest as rooms are typically single rooms and I would bet security would be asking questions if you had a hooker in tow as he would not be used to seeing it.

Much better low budget places around that this

[Hellas]

This is a conference facility. Horrible small spring beds with thin mattresses and typical college-type boarding rooms.

I have stayed there a few times for seminars.

I would certainly not want to bring back a guest as rooms are typically single rooms and I would bet security would be asking questions if you had a hooker in tow as he would not be used to seeing it.

Much better low budget places around that thisHi Red Kilt!

I'm used to go to Executive Plaza Hotel in Ermita. 2500 php per night, I think it is a decent hotel for a couple of nights (I'll be 21 days in the Philippines, that is my budget per night) , for that price is there any decent hotel in the Makati? Please.

Thanks,

Hellas

[Wicked Roger]

Hi Red Kilt!

I'm used to go to Executive Plaza Hotel in Ermita. 2500 php per night, I think it is a decent hotel for a couple of nights (I'll be 21 days in the Philippines, that is my budget per night) , for that price is there any decent hotel in the Makati? Please.

Thanks,

HellasH.

If you search on some of the hotel discount rate web sites by price you find plenty. In Makati a long time ago I did stay at City Garden, was OK needs TLC and recently advertising 1500 pesos a night. More budget hotel? Try Howzat Inn (next to Howzat). Basic but clean am told. St Giles is generally around 2500 pesos but check online first as prices change and it will show the daily rate.

Am sure others will have thier own ideas as ther are many in Makati

[LukeSkywalker]

Riviera Mansion and Rothman hotel on Mabini are about P2000 to P2500, US$40 to $45.

Hotel rates are highly flexible, depending on dates and other factors. I don't know whether any bros have been able to show up and negotiate with reception for lower local rates. I am sure the locals get much lower rates than Agoda's etc. With the large number of hotels in that areas, it should be possible to persuade reception to give you lower than internet rates. Someone should try it.

Riviera is right on Mabini, across the street from the Hyatt hotel and casino. Traffic is pretty busy and noisy. The Rothman has larger rooms and a bit more quiet and discreet. I.

Like these hotels because they are close to MBC and Robinson mall, convenient to bring the girls. But there may be other hotels even closer to Robinson mall with lower rates.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Riviera Mansion and Rothman hotel on Mabini are about P2000 to P2500, US$40 to $45.

Hotel rates are highly flexible, depending on dates and other factors. I don't know whether any bros have been able to show up and negotiate with reception for lower local rates. I am sure the locals get much lower rates than Agoda's etc. With the large number of hotels in that areas, it should be possible to persuade reception to give you lower than internet rates. Someone should try it.

Riviera is right on Mabini, across the street from the Hyatt hotel and casino. Traffic is pretty busy and noisy. The Rothman has larger rooms and a bit more quiet and discreet. I.

Like these hotels because they are close to MBC and Robinson mall, convenient to bring the girls. But there may be other hotels even closer to Robinson mall with lower rates.To Luke.

I stay at Rivera last yr and got a room for 1800 php just walk in ask for a room is avalible, I stay there many time before and they check my rate when I stay before I like their room better than Rothman is cleaner and not as old, anyone stay at the new Tune hotel at malate just down the st from Rothman.

Fast Eddie 48

[Soapy Smith]

riviera is right on mabini, across the street from the hyatt hotel and casino. traffic is pretty busy and noisy. the rothman has larger rooms and a bit more quiet and discreet.there's a little shortcut from right beside the riviera entrance that leads through the hotel's parking area and comes out by rothman. look for the covered driveway off mabini right beside riviera's front door. there's usually a parking gate and security there, and the driveway goes in under the building as i recall. go straight back in until it opens up into a small parking area between buildings, then turn right, then left again, and you'll find yourself coming out onto adriatico right beside rothman. what's the point? it cuts some distance off when you're walking back from mbc to rothman, and it also helps you avoid the hustlers, the terrible stench of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), and the narrow and congested sidewalks along the block of pedro gil from mabini to adriatico and along adriatico to the front door of rothman. and a much more congenial route for walking your evening's romantic entertainment back to rothman. i've done it numerous times and never encountered anybody but hotel employees back through the parking area.

rothman's rooms on the backside are very quiet, i agree, but not so much the ones facing adriatico.

[Sammon]

Hi Red Kilt!

I'm used to go to Executive Plaza Hotel in Ermita. 2500 php per night, I think it is a decent hotel for a couple of nights (I'll be 21 days in the Philippines, that is my budget per night) , for that price is there any decent hotel in the Makati? Please.

Thanks,

HellasIf you are on a budget,

1. Check the price on website to know the prices.

2. Send a e mail to hotel website and ask them for the best rate.

3. Tell them you pay cash.

4. Lie to them saying you stayed there before and got a good rate.

5. If you are in Phi call them directly or go to the hotel and talk to the manager.

6. If you are staying long time they will give you a good rate.

Just as an example I just e mailed allure suites in Cebu Mandau where I had stayed before. At that time I booked through agoda. They replied to me saying normal proce is 2500 pesos + 22% tax, however they will give me net price of 2088 pesos per night with breakfast for 2.

IMHO all Phi hotels give a discounted rate including 4 and 5 star hotels if contacted directly. Always talk to the manager and do not take the girls word that manager is not available. Phi girls for some reason tries to end the conversation quickly.

[LukeSkywalker]

you are right. i always take this short cut from mabini to the rothman hotel.

it looks pretty dark at night but there a a few restaurants in that courtyard. the security guard and the hotel drivers hang out at the gate. also the workers from the hotels and restaurants hang out in the courtyard. i did not have any problems.


there's a little shortcut from right beside the riviera entrance that leads through the hotel's parking area and comes out by rothman. look for the covered driveway off mabini right beside riviera's front door. there's usually a parking gate and security there, and the driveway goes in under the building as i recall. go straight back in until it opens up into a small parking area between buildings, then turn right, then left again, and you'll find yourself coming out onto adriatico right beside rothman. what's the point? it cuts some distance off when you're walking back from mbc to rothman, and it also helps you avoid the hustlers, the terrible stench of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), and the narrow and congested sidewalks along the block of pedro gil from mabini to adriatico and along adriatico to the front door of rothman. and a much more congenial route for walking your evening's romantic entertainment back to rothman. i've done it numerous times and never encountered anybody but hotel employees back through the parking area.

rothman's rooms on the backside are very quiet, i agree, but not so much the ones facing adriatico.

[LukeSkywalker]

1800 pesos is a very good rate. I have to ask for it next time.

The Tune hotel is brightly painted, looks like a place for families with kids. They may not welcomed taking young girls in and out. The rooms are tiny. I have not stayed there.


To Luke.

I stay at Rivera last yr and got a room for 1800 php just walk in ask for a room is avalible, I stay there many time before and they check my rate when I stay before I like their room better than Rothman is cleaner and not as old, anyone stay at the new Tune hotel at malate just down the st from Rothman.

Fast Eddie 48

[Devils 1]

Hi Red Kilt!

I'm used to go to Executive Plaza Hotel in Ermita. 2500 php per night, I think it is a decent hotel for a couple of nights (I'll be 21 days in the Philippines, that is my budget per night) , for that price is there any decent hotel in the Makati? Please.

Thanks,

HellasThere is a hotel off Burgos in Makati called the Clipper Hotel. It is small but with a great location. It looks nice from the outside. I have gone by twice to view the rooms and was never able to. From others I've spoken to it is a good place. Not sure of the rates or if you want to be that close to Burgos for 21 days. But its an option.

[LukeSkywalker]

If a veteran traveler like you keep staying at the Riviera Mansion, it must have some special appeals. So spill them out for the bros.

I just hate their cheap free breakfast with 2 toasts. 1 egg and a glass of Tang. Damn.


To Luke.

I stay at Rivera last yr and got a room for 1800 php just walk in ask for a room is avalible, I stay there many time before and they check my rate when I stay before I like their room better than Rothman is cleaner and not as old, anyone stay at the new Tune hotel at malate just down the st from Rothman.

Fast Eddie 48

[Soapy Smith]

It looks pretty dark at night but there a a few restaurants in that courtyard. The security guard and the hotel drivers hang out at the gate. Also the workers from the hotels and restaurants hang out in the courtyard.Probably a good idea to check it out in daylight so you know where you're going and have the reassurance of knowing you're surrounded by the various hotels that open onto the courtyard.

[Fast Eddie 48]

If a veteran traveler like you keep staying at the Riviera Mansion, it must have some special appeals. So spill them out for the bros.

I just hate their cheap free breakfast with 2 toasts. 1 egg and a glass of Tang. Damn.Luke,

I stay there because of the Location near Robinson and the price is right, they don't have room avalible all the time my other choice is the Las Palmas a few door down, never have breakfast there at rivera if is not good just go any where else you don't have to eat it because is free right.

Fast Eddie 48

[Hutsori]

There is a hotel off Burgos in Makati called the Clipper Hotel. It is small but with a great location. It looks nice from the outside. I have gone by twice to view the rooms and was never able to. From others I've spoken to it is a good place. Not sure of the rates or if you want to be that close to Burgos for 21 days. But its an option.I've viewed them. The Clipper's very small rooms are 1350 and can be discounted to 1250 for a many-day stay. The 1850 peso rooms (discounted to 1750) are much larger and a better value vis a vis the other hotels on the street. Free wifi in room.

Another place is the Howzat Inn, on Kalayaan Ave about 2 blocks away. At Burgos cross Kalayaan and turn right, walking to Rockwell. The 1350p rooms are quite large, but the bathroom is ridiculously small. Not all in-room safes work, so make sure you tell them you want a working one. Wifi was intermittently down, but once I informed staff they contacted tech and things were up and running in a few hours. If you live and die on the net the unreliability can be frustrating. You can run the AC all day so no coming back to a hot room after a nights out. Good cable TV selection. Discounted rate for 1 week is approx 9000 pesos. The Howzat Pub is excellent with very tasty pub grub and fairly priced booze. Certainly the best place in the area I think. 50 peso beer until 8 pm and nightly 3-hour all-you-can-consume San Mig for 295. No service charge for drinks; 10% for food.

Best value for a longish stay is to rent a condo. Check Craig's List or just google Makati apartments. Plenty of options in Makati, and I've seen very nice places on offer for nightly & weekly rates. 1 bedroom w / full kitchen at 1000 to 2000 per night is a good deal if you cook. Many even have a pool and gym, facilities absent at cheap hotels / inns.

[Hutsori]

1800 pesos is a very good rate. I have to ask for it next time.

The Tune hotel is brightly painted, looks like a place for families with kids. They may not welcomed taking young girls in and out. The rooms are tiny. I have not stayed there.I considered the Tune Hotel, but it's run like Air Asia, and nickel and diming isn't for me. Pay extra for AC. Pay extra to use the TV / DVD. Pay extra for wifi. Pay extra for towels. Free toilet though, so entertain yourself by emptying your bowels. Just take care w/ the TP because you may have to pay by the sheet ;)

If you get all the options that are standard at other hotels you're near 2000p.

[Red Kilt]

Some guys use this property for Manila stays.

I just received this note through Asiatravel. Com

Makati.

Greenstone Serviced Residences Makati.

(Formerly Somerset Salcedo)

Php 5003 ++ reduced to Php 3001 ++ (with Breakfast)

Might suit some of you. It is a nice place, with a good pool and gym.

[Amadeuss]

Riviera Mansion and Rothman hotel on Mabini are about P2000 to P2500, US$40 to $45.

I like these hotels because they are close to MBC and Robinson mall, convenient to bring the girls. .I never had problems at the Rothmans. But several times, the guards at the Mabini do play self appointed moral keepers: asking the girls for I'd (ok.) but then asking why they want to meet me, how long they know me, where they from, where they work. Truly annoying those silly guys.

If you are on a fat business budget, then go for the Pan Pacific (90$ promo). You get a key card for the elevator and no guard does hassle your companions.

[LukeSkywalker]

If you are talking about the big doorman, wearing his long-tailed jacket, he looks serious but is sort of slow, never says much anything.

He never questioned the many girls I brought into the Riviera day and night. One morning 6AM the young girls, whom I had fucked silly all night, wanted to leave early. He flagged down a cab and held the cab while I was kissing the girl good bye. .

His buddy, the hotel's driver, was a fun guy. He took me to all these casas where there were many good-looking young girls.


I never had problems at the Rothmans. But several times, the guards at the Mabini do play self appointed moral keepers: asking the girls for I'd (ok.) but then asking why they want to meet me, how long they know me, where they from, where they work. Truly annoying those silly guys.

If you are on a fat business budget, then go for the Pan Pacific (90$ promo). You get a key card for the elevator and no guard does hassle your companions.

[YG365]

When I'm in Manila, I usually stay at St. Giles because it's near Burgos Street and Greenbelt (60 Peso taxi ride away) and about a 120 Peso taxi ride away from MBC. The rooms are a bit small, especially the bathroom. You'll have an idea of it if you've ever stayed at a hotel in Japan. Hotel also offers WIFI but you can only connect one device to it at a time. If you want to switch between a device, you first have to visit the web page 1. 1.1. 1 and it'll disconnect your current device. Then just relog back in with your new device.

The staff is ok, a bit rude in my opinion. The showers are erratic, where you don't mess with the temperature but it still changes. No issues with girls coming in and out of your hotel and they'll call you every time a girl leaves. Girls from MBC, also consider this hotel far and would rather go to a hotel near Ermita.

Also, if you have to leave for the airport or somewhere important in the morning or evening during rush hour traffic, good luck! You'll never get a taxi, so I'd plan around this.

YG

[Econo Tech]

If you are talking about the big doorman, wearing his long-tailed jacket, he looks serious but is sort of slow, never says much anything.

He never questioned the many girls I brought into the Riviera day and night. One morning 6AM the young girls, whom I had fucked silly all night, wanted to leave early. He flagged down a cab and held the cab while I was kissing the girl good bye. .

His buddy, the hotel's driver, was a fun guy. He took me to all these casas where there were many good-looking young girls.I think Botaki may have been trapped by one of the many lurkers around Rivera, as do the gang that hangs around at Executive LOL.

Once I asked a friend to drop by, and she brought along 6 of her friends. And the security never said anything.

And another time two girls were waiting in the lobby, even then, no questions asked.

[Red Kilt]

A new Raffles Hotel in Makati (same parent as Raffles in Singapore) is having a soft opening on December 1 with full opening in February. 2013.

http://www.raffles.com/makati/

It is the new development adjacent to Landmark Department Store on Makati Ave / Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road) corner, so not as close to Greenbelt as New World but still likely to attract the well-heeled mongers from ISG.

It will have a Long Bar and a Writer's Bar (as per Singapore).

There is a regular hotel on the lower floors with residential suites occupying the top 20 floors.

[Amanut]

I booked here through ibilik. Com and was very pleased with the accommodation and location which is only one block from the entrance to Greenbelt One. The condo is a studio unit with a full fridge and freezer compartment, kitchen sink and microwave. There is no stove for cooking. The manager accommodated an early check in without my having to ask, and granted me a 5:30 PM late check out. Both were without additional costs.

Included in the rent is a wifi box for each unit which I did not need or use. The units are cleaned Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

The only down side was the guards allowing visitors in without checking with me first. This could be problematic.

All in all I felt it was a good value for 2, 800 pesos a night however booking was not that easy as they do not take credit cards online. They wanted me to use paypal and when I could not use it with my credit card I had to e-mail them to make a direct bank deposit to their account at BDO.

I now have the manager's personal information so on my next trip I am hopeful that I won't have to go through that again and also hope that booking direct will give me a discount from the ibilik posted price.

[Tally Wacker]

RK I looked into this hotel as an alternative to New World but its much more expensive with the cheapest room going for about $350 a night. They do have a soft opening discount but still a little pricey. Looks like a nice property but I'm going to take advantage of the $99 crazy rate on asiatravel for New World.


A new Raffles Hotel in Makati (same parent as Raffles in Singapore) is having a soft opening on December 1 with full opening in February. 2013.

http://www.raffles.com/makati/

It is the new development adjacent to Landmark Department Store on Makati Ave / Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road) corner, so not as close to Greenbelt as New World but still likely to attract the well-heeled mongers from ISG.

It will have a Long Bar and a Writer's Bar (as per Singapore).

There is a regular hotel on the lower floors with residential suites occupying the top 20 floors.

[Red Kilt]

RK I looked into this hotel as an alternative to New World but its much more expensive with the cheapest room going for about $350 a night. They do have a soft opening discount but still a little pricey. Looks like a nice property but I'm going to take advantage of the $99 crazy rate on asiatravel for New World.I did say it might attract the well-heeled mongers.

Maybe those on an expense account too.

It will probably be the most expensive hotel in the Philippines once it settles down.

There is also competition coming from the Fairmont / Holiday Inn which is open already and only a few metres away in the same "block" and both are just a stone's throw from the Dusit.

[Sky Ryder]

Stayed two nights in the St. Giles last week and probably won't do that again. With tax, the room rate was over $100 / night for a small room that was furnished with $60 / night furniture. I don't like the Burgos area anyway and there are a lot of hotels that I feel are roughly equal to the Giles at less money.

The earlier comments about the internet and staff are accurate.

[Jp Slicky]

SR.

I am not sure how you got roped into $100 per night.

In early Oct to mid Oct I paid just over 2500 p per night =$59. 00 per night.

Agreed that not ultra fancy but it is clean with a decent pool area and the staff were very helpful

[Wicked Roger]

Stayed two nights in the St. Giles last week and probably won't do that again. With tax, the room rate was over $100 / night for a small room that was furnished with $60 / night furniture. I don't like the Burgos area anyway and there are a lot of hotels that I feel are roughly equal to the Giles at less money.

The earlier comments about the internet and staff are accurate.? SK?

Did you book online as if you did the smallrooms can be as low as 2800 pesos. The larger rooms I get for 3400 pesos.

Never pay $100 ever.

Manila is expensive and Dusit, InterCon et al are more and can be double that. New World was $99 (see FR below) as a special rate but St Giles is never the price.

PM me SK or you have my email as very surprised; love to know how and where you booked this.

I am never keen on Burgos per se but I like the atmosphere etc and Handle Bar and Howzat where I can get some decent grub and reasonable prices

[Sky Ryder]

? SK?

Did you book online as if you did the smallrooms can be as low as 2800 pesos. The larger rooms I get for 3400 pesos.

Never pay $100 ever.

Manila is expensive and Dusit, InterCon et al are more and can be double that. New World was $99 (see FR below) as a special rate but St Giles is never the price.

PM me SK or you have my email as very surprised; love to know how and where you booked this.

I am never keen on Burgos per se but I like the atmosphere etc and Handle Bar and Howzat where I can get some decent grub and reasonable pricesWR,

Thanks for the response. I booked it thru www.asiatravel.com. The price wasn't over a hundred, but by the time you add the 26% taxes (10% service charge+16% tax) it was pretty close to $100 a night. I tried for the New World, but it wasn't available. There may have been something going on in town, because a lot of hotels were full and the prices were up on the others.

I guess my issue with Burgos is the way out of whack prices the bars are asking. Given the market everywhere else, I just don't get it. As a result, when you walk in a lot of places, I feel like a donut a "fat man" conference because the girls aren't getting any customers. At least that is the way it was for me.

I probably should know better for posting this last part in the hotel section. I hope I am forgiven.

[Wicked Roger]

WR,

Thanks for the response. I booked it thru.

www.asiatravel.com.

The price wasn't over a hundred, but by the time you add the 26% taxes (10% service charge+16% tax) it was pretty close to $100 a night.Always book through the hotel's own web site as asiatravel etc add on all sorts of charges.

As fo rBurgos, it is very quiet and bar fines are ridiculously high etc hence it is so quiet compared with years ago. Terrible situation IMHO and will get worse IMHO

[Sammon]

Always book through the hotel's own web site as asiatravel etc add on all sorts of charges.

As fo rBurgos, it is very quiet and bar fines are ridiculously high etc hence it is so quiet compared with years ago. Terrible situation IMHO and will get worse IMHOI have booked many times on asiatravel. Com Their prices on some hotels are cheaper. Hotels own website always quotes higher prices.

Agoda shows room types and prices.

I tend to book hotels with bufett breakfast included. As you know Phi girls are hungry all the time and want to eat 4 times a day. Having a breakfast quenches their hunger till lunchtime.

Besides I do not feel like walking outside to eat breakfast in the morning.

[Jp Slicky]

I know for sure as TW said they are higher and I too go direct.

I use Agoda to find a hotel in the area but always higher rate compared to booking direct.

Try it and see

[Fast Eddie 48]

I know for sure as TW said they are higher and I too go direct.

I use Agoda to find a hotel in the area but always higher rate compared to booking direct.

Try it and seeJP,

This is true I always get a better rate walk in the last miinute in Manila than the Agoda rate, hotel rate has sky rocket the last 5 yr in Manila hard to find a decent hotel for less than 50 USD a night.

Fast Eddie 48

[Wazoo]

Right now I have booked a junior suite at the Executive Plaza. They have a "third night free" sale going on now that made the price so low I felt like I had to grab it. I can always cancel the reservation for just a small fee. I will be staying 4 nights with a girlfriend. She actually suggested we stay in Malate rather than Makati. She is from the provinces but worked in Malate before and is comfortable getting around there. The review of EP on Agoda were generally very positive but more were uneven on Trip Advisor. I haven't been able to find any recent reports about the hotel. Is it nice enough for a 4 day stay? I want a clean, relaxing, comfortable place because we plan on spending a LOT of time together in the room. The junior suite at least is spacious if nothing else. We'd also like to be able to walk around the area of restaurants and shopping. Is the area safe? I travel a lot and don't mind the typical big city sleaze as long as I don't have to worry too much about getting mugged.

I've also looked at the two Pearl Hotels, Best Western, and Hotel H2O.

[Red Kilt]

<SNIP I will be staying 4 nights with a girlfriend. She actually suggested we stay in Malate rather than Makati. She is from the provinces but worked in Malate before and is comfortable getting around there.

I haven't been able to find any recent reports about the hotel. Is it nice enough for a 4 day stay? I want a clean, relaxing, comfortable place because we plan on spending a LOT of time together in the room. The junior suite at least is spacious if nothing else. We'd also like to be able to walk around the area of restaurants and shopping. Is the area safe? I travel a lot and don't mind the typical big city sleaze as long as I don't have to worry too much about getting mugged.Your trip is going to be the most meticulously planned trip in ISG history Wazoo.

By GF I assume you mean a "chat site" gf. Be prepared to change the gf more than the hotel.

As I understand it you haven't been here before but you have posted for months, so you should know about the area around Exec Plaza very well. Like anywhere, it could be safe but you could be mugged too. E Plaza is a "run-of-the-mill" package deal type of place. Never rely on reports on Trip Advisor or most other internet reviews. There is a reason why they seem so incredibly diverse. The good reviews are usually sent in by friends of the manager on request; the bad reports are sent by the competitors from nearby hotels trying to run down the opposition.

Good luck anyway. I hope your detailed plans work out, so be sure to give us a report.

Remember: this is the Philippines where plans usually get amended around 15 minutes after arrival.

[Key Master]

Right now I have booked a junior suite at the Executive Plaza. They have a "third night free" sale going on now that made the price so low I felt like I had to grab it. I can always cancel the reservation for just a small fee. I will be staying 4 nights with a girlfriend. She actually suggested we stay in Malate rather than Makati. She is from the provinces but worked in Malate before and is comfortable getting around there. The review of EP on Agoda were generally very positive but more were uneven on Trip Advisor. I haven't been able to find any recent reports about the hotel. Is it nice enough for a 4 day stay? I want a clean, relaxing, comfortable place because we plan on spending a LOT of time together in the room. The junior suite at least is spacious if nothing else. We'd also like to be able to walk around the area of restaurants and shopping. Is the area safe? I travel a lot and don't mind the typical big city sleaze as long as I don't have to worry too much about getting mugged.

I've also looked at the two Pearl Hotels, Best Western, and Hotel H2O.Not sure where the suites are located at Executive Plaza, but some rooms can be very noisy from the street traffic outside. If you are a light sleeper that can be a problem. If you are going to be mainly in the room, and then going out to eat, I would rather stay in Makati. Those other hotels you listed are far ranging. I believe that H2O is pretty nice and a lot more expensive.

[Sammon]

Right now I have booked a junior suite at the Executive Plaza. They have a "third night free" sale going on now that made the price so low I felt like I had to grab it. I can always cancel the reservation for just a small fee. I will be staying 4 nights with a girlfriend. She actually suggested we stay in Malate rather than Makati. She is from the provinces but worked in Malate before and is comfortable getting around there. The review of EP on Agoda were generally very positive but more were uneven on Trip Advisor. I haven't been able to find any recent reports about the hotel. Is it nice enough for a 4 day stay? I want a clean, relaxing, comfortable place because we plan on spending a LOT of time together in the room. The junior suite at least is spacious if nothing else. We'd also like to be able to walk around the area of restaurants and shopping. Is the area safe? I travel a lot and don't mind the typical big city sleaze as long as I don't have to worry too much about getting mugged.

I've also looked at the two Pearl Hotels, Best Western, and Hotel H2O.I do not believe there is a junior suite per se with a bedroom and living room. However I have stayed 7 nights one time with a Gf from Zamboanga there. It was a superior room better than standard room. Areawise not much of a difference but the bed is good. It is right on Mabini and easy access to bars, restaurents etc. The area is safe as safe can be in Philippines. Security is really lax and I have seen girls come and and take elevator at will without any questions from security. Also robinson mall is only two blocks away.

I have stayed at both the pearl hotels and best western. Pearl hotels are far away and you need to take a taxi to go to the mall or good restaurents. Best western is Ok on the same street del pilar as La cafe. All the times I have stayed with regular girlfriends. Since Phi girls are quite happy with me bringing them jollebee and watching TV they are not much into eating at fancy restaurents. Girls do like malls but mainly hoping that you will buy presents.

[DriveAllNight]

I believe that H2O is pretty nice and a lot more expensive.You got it right, nicer but more pricey. But the aquarium rooms are actually really cool at about $95-100 US. Paying three weeks or more in advance, you can score them even cheaper through the H2O website.

[Wazoo]

Thanks for all the helpful comments, both here and by PM. I feel pretty good about Executive Plaza based on what you've told me. The hotel is running a stay 3rd night free promo right now, so the already very reasonable rate now is a real bargain.

[Soapy Smith]

Is it nice enough for a 4 day stay? I want a clean, relaxing, comfortable place because we plan on spending a LOT of time together in the room.It has been a couple years since I stayed there, but I'd say that unless you have luxurious expectations, Executive Plaza is okay for a 4-day stay. It's rated three stars, but the distinction between two, three and four stars is often relative. It places you, as others pointed out, two blocks from Robinson's Place Mall. On the walk to the mall be prepared to shake your head "no" assertively to the many men hawking viagra, belt buckles, fake rolex watches, odd coins, and so on--and the women holding up hungry children for your pity and charity.

The mall is full of eating establishments, from McDonalds through fine dining (depending on your definition of "fine") and everything in between. Up on the third or fourth floor of the big open part of the mall is an array of Filipino provincial cuisine eateries. Most are sort of fast food places, and quality may vary, but it will give your GF an opportunity to show you food similar to what's available in her home province. And, yes, she will probably want you to shop for her. The most luxurious shops are on the first and second floors, and quality and price decline as you get to higher floors.

Right around the corner from EP (actually two right turns or walk through the courtyard to Adriatico Street) are Ka Freddies and the Zamboanga Restaurant. Check the billboard at Ka Freddies to find out when he (Freddie Aguilar [sp?]) is playing, usually Friday or Saturday. YMMV for middle of the week performers, as WC has reported. Sometimes a door charge, but it comes with some free drinks. Zamboanga Restaurant has a varied cuisine, but with an emphasis on Mindanao seafood dishes, and a live folk music and dance performance. If your GF has never been there, she'll think you're a genius for knowing about the place.

There are also some good eating and live music places in the Remedios Circle area of Malate, two blocks to the south (turn left going out the door of EP). Your GF probably knows that area well. If you're uncertain about any of these locations, ask the hotel staff for advice. They want you to live long enough to come back and spend money with them again.

[Wazoo]

First, many thanks for Skip Kost and Sammon for providing great info about Executive Plaza. I got a great deal on a junior suite there that includes a 3rd night free. My total charge for 4 nights is only about 9K, including tax. Hard to beat that. I still can cancel this reservation and lose just a small fee. At the risk of trying everyone's patience, I'd like to ask about Bayleaf in Intramuros. Travel Advisor rates it as the #2 rated hotel in all of Manila. The hotel gets rave reviews for elegance, cleanliness, restaurant cuisine, and a professional, helpful staff. It's quite a romantic location right next to the old walls. There's an excellent roof top restaurant that offers panoramic views of the city. I was surprised that I was able to get a room there for only about $90 / night. It's worth the extra to me for the romantic ambiance. Given the price vs. Quality ratio, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in this thread before. My main concern is location. On the map, Intramuros doesn't look very far at all from Robinson's Mall and the bars of Malate. However, I understand that Manila traffic can be fierce. There may be some issues about getting taxis in the old city. A couple of my dates acted like I was asking them to go to Mars when I suggested the hotel. Is the location unworkable? If so, I can live with the Exec. Plaza suite.

Thanks again!

[Soapy Smith]

At the risk of trying everyone's patience, I'd like to ask about Bayleaf in Intramuros. Travel Advisor rates it as the #2 rated hotel in all of Manila. The hotel gets rave reviews for elegance, cleanliness, restaurant cuisine, and a professional, helpful staff. It's quite a romantic location right next to the old walls. There's an excellent roof top restaurant that offers panoramic views of the city. I was surprised that I was able to get a room there for only about $90 / night. It's worth the extra to me for the romantic ambiance. Given the price vs. Quality ratio, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in this thread before. My main concern is location. On the map, Intramuros doesn't look very far at all from Robinson's Mall and the bars of Malate. However, I understand that Manila traffic can be fierce. There may be some issues about getting taxis in the old city. A couple of my dates acted like I was asking them to go to Mars when I suggested the hotel. Is the location unworkable? If so, I can live with the Exec. Plaza suite. Thanks again!Most ISG folks simply consider Intramuros inconvenient to their principal activity. Parts of Intramuros are quaint and charming, but a few areas still show the marks of WWII shelling. Traffic is the key consideration. Four separate bridges across the Pasig River converge into the Taft Avenue and Luneta Park area (to the East, West, and South of Intramuros), and cutting through this traffic to get to Ermita or Malate is a struggle with the exception of early morning and night. Hotel staff can probably summon taxis if you don't mind fighting the traffic. If your trip is about romancing one or two different women rather than recruiting a variety of bedmates, this might be a charming location. Fort Santiago and the San Augustin Church are interesting to visit. Luneta (Rizal) Park also is within walking distance if it's not too hot. There's a monument to Jose Rizal (at the site where he was executed), as well as other informational plaques about him. Near the Northeast corner of the Park are several gardens in Chinese and Japanese themes, and the nicest garden of all is an orchid garden with waterfalls, a little restaurant, and so on, maintained primarily from Japanese contributions. All this assumes your guest prefers that sort of thing more than proximity to Robinson's and Malate entertainment and doesn't mind the walk. But since many Filipinas are not particularly fascinated by history or gardening, these things may be more interesting to you than to them.

[GoodEnough]

That the Shang is an excellent hotel will come as news to no one. However, until last week I had never stayed there. After a somewhat heated argument with personnel at the New World though, and after a friend of mine arranged an excellent corporate rate, I took a short taxi ride over and found. By far the best place in which I've ever stayed in Manila, and likely a new home. The service was truly at a five star level as was the room, and I've no complaints at all.

In my opinion, the hotel deserves it's reputation, and it belies the notion that excellent service can't be found here.

GE

[Wicked Roger]

That the Shang is an excellent hotel will come as news to no one. However, until last week I had never stayed there. After a somewhat heated argument with personnel at the New World though, and after a friend of mine arranged an excellent corporate rate, I took a short taxi ride over and found. By far the best place in which I've ever stayed in Manila, and likely a new home. The service was truly at a five star level as was the room, and I've no complaints at all.

In my opinion, the hotel deserves it's reputation, and it belies the notion that excellent service can't be found here.

GEI was there some time back and concur but it is pricey for the normal guy. The hotel also screwded up badly and as a result I got freebies anywhere in the world. Good customer service.

Any chance you can share the NW issues and it must have been serious for you to move

[Mc Don]

First, many thanks for Skip Kost and Sammon for providing great info about Executive Plaza. I got a great deal on a junior suite there that includes a 3rd night free. My total charge for 4 nights is only about 9K, including tax. Hard to beat that. I still can cancel this reservation and lose just a small fee. At the risk of trying everyone's patience, I'd like to ask about Bayleaf in Intramuros. Travel Advisor rates it as the #2 rated hotel in all of Manila. The hotel gets rave reviews for elegance, cleanliness, restaurant cuisine, and a professional, helpful staff. It's quite a romantic location right next to the old walls. There's an excellent roof top restaurant that offers panoramic views of the city. I was surprised that I was able to get a room there for only about $90 / night. It's worth the extra to me for the romantic ambiance. Given the price vs. Quality ratio, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in this thread before. My main concern is location. On the map, Intramuros doesn't look very far at all from Robinson's Mall and the bars of Malate. However, I understand that Manila traffic can be fierce. There may be some issues about getting taxis in the old city. A couple of my dates acted like I was asking them to go to Mars when I suggested the hotel. Is the location unworkable? If so, I can live with the Exec. Plaza suite.

Thanks again!Skip summed it up perfectly only thing I would add is its worth visiting is the light and sound museum especially if you are into history. Yes despite being probably one of the nicest parts of manila intramuros for some reason is just forgotten by the locals. If you are into sex in public this is an interesting place with plenty of roofs and hidden areas to explore. Few good restaurants and if traffic is NORMAL you get to the malate bars in about 10-15 min depending where you take the cab from. There is a good golf course there too but good luck getting in.

[Psword]

Hi lads,

Long time lurker, but no phils experience to speak of yet. I am hoping to change that soon. I have been to Manila on a few occasions on business trips, but never had the chance to monger. I stayed at the Sofitel both times. Nice hotel, great pool, but far from anything except MOA, and that can get quite boring after you have visited a few times.

I will be visiting Manila soon, for pleasure this time. I am hoping someone can help with my hotel choice. I dunno why, but I must have a room with a balcony, maybe something too do with claustrophobia. Whatever it is, its a mandatory on my list. Other "nice to have" include a view, good location (preferably in Makati, near GB) , and a good pool. Price is a consideration, but not a determining factor. I definitely prefer the higher end hotels, not the economy style.

I have researched extensively hotels like Shangri-La, Dusit, Peninsula etc, but none seem to offer rooms with balconies, at least not that I can see.

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hope to finally be able to contribute to this forum in a meaningful way very soon.

Cheers

[Bob Bowie]

Every condo I have rented has had a balcony. Check out sites like VRBO, there are many choices from cheap condos to expensive penthouses. They all come with pictures and normal only require 3 day minimum stay.

[Psword]

Every condo I have rented has had a balcony. Check out sites like VRBO, there are many choices from cheap condos to expensive penthouses. They all come with pictures and normal only require 3 day minimum stay.Thanks for that Bob, I will look into that closely. Some good condos in Boracay there as well, a destination that is also on my radar. Do you know of any Hotels that fit the description?

[DriveAllNight]

That the Shang is an excellent hotel will come as news to no one. However, until last week I had never stayed there. After a somewhat heated argument with personnel at the New World though, and after a friend of mine arranged an excellent corporate rate, I took a short taxi ride over and found. By far the best place in which I've ever stayed in Manila, and likely a new home. The service was truly at a five star level as was the room, and I've no complaints at all.

In my opinion, the hotel deserves it's reputation, and it belies the notion that excellent service can't be found here.

GEI just spent five days there, and truly is the best hotel in the Philippines. Shang Makati can stand with the best hotels I've stayed in in Los Angeles, San Francisco, or anyplace else.

I also spent a couple days at Shang EDSA this month for the first time. From the service to the rooms to the gym, it's not even in the same ballpark as Shang Makati. Disappointing.

[Member #4698]

It looks like the Shangri-La Makati may have some competition in the form of the new Fairmont Hotel and Raffles Makati Hotel. I would have liked to stay at Shangri-La Makati on previous visits, but I could not pull the trigger due to the $100 / night premium over the New World. They also play price games with their reservations. $30 more per night if the room is booked (w/o breakfast) for two versus booked for one. I consider that a joiner fee. Too bad because I can see it is an excellent hotel with a great location, fine restaurants, and fantastic swimming pool. I think the Fairmont and the Raffles are going to be real expensive too. Damn!

Best Manila hotel for the money is the Diamond Hotel IMHO, but the Diamond is stuck over in Malate. Location, location, location. I like Malate, but I like Makati more. I paid $103 / night for an upgraded executive deluxe room with breakfast last time I was there. The room was excellent and they have a very nice swimming pool too.

[Red Kilt]

It looks like the Shangri-La Makati may have some competition in the form of the new Fairmont Hotel and Raffles Makati Hotel. I would have liked to stay at Shangri-La Makati on previous visits, but I could not pull the trigger due to the $100 / night premium over the New World. They also play price games with their reservations. $30 more per night if the room is booked (w/o breakfast) for two versus booked for one. I consider that a joiner fee. Too bad because I can see it is an excellent hotel with a great location, fine restaurants, and fantastic swimming pool. I think the Fairmont and the Raffles are going to be real expensive too. Damn!Current soft opening rates for both Fairmont & Raffles are upwards of $350 per night.

They are competing for a completely different class of traveller. Raffles Makati is quite small and likely to be VERY exclusive at $600 per night.

The Holiday Inn that has just opened as part of the Glorietta complex will be a more likely competitor for the Shang Makati.

[Wicked Roger]

Current soft opening rates for both Fairmont & Raffles are upwards of $350 per night.

They are competing for a completely different class of traveller. Raffles Makati is quite small and likely to be VERY exclusive at $600 per night.

The Holiday Inn that has just opened as part of the Glorietta complex will be a more likely competitor for the Shang Makati.So good mongers hotels LOL.

Why can't someone open more hotels like the St Giles where rates are affordable. Manila is for me an expensive city for the free lance traveller compared with others in Asia. Some may disagree but in Bangkok you get far more bang for your buck, Singapore is pricey, Jakata is great, KL affordable for a nice hotel.

I like both hotels and would stay there when on business as would get a good corporate rate but when am on vacation I won't pay those rates. Tokyo excluded as that is just a crazy place

[GoodEnough]

Current soft opening rates for both Fairmont & Raffles are upwards of $350 per night.

They are competing for a completely different class of traveller. Raffles Makati is quite small and likely to be VERY exclusive at $600 per night.

The Holiday Inn that has just opened as part of the Glorietta complex will be a more likely competitor for the Shang Makati.As RK explained to me over coffee yesterday, the Shang is somewhat notorious for trying to increase it's rates once you have already established a rate. I've stayed at, and thoroughly enjoyed the Shang Makati 4 times in the past 6 weeks or so, and had established a rate with the hotel's Sales Manager. While there this week I made a booking for next week, and a few hours later received a text explaining that my rate would be about 50% more than I had been paying. When I texted back that this was unacceptable, I got an immediate phone call with some rambling story about weekend vs. Weekday rates. When I pointed out that my prior 3 stays had all been during weekdays, the story changed to something equally implausible. I finally told the story teller that either I got the current rate or I wouldn't stay and neither would anyone else from the company. Finally, I was told that I would receivea call on Monday with a "final" decision from "top management." This is an excellent hotel, with great facilities and service, so I was surprised somewhat by what I perceive to have been an attempt to scam me.

GE

[Screaming Beaver]

This is an excellent hotel, with great facilities and service, so I was surprised somewhat by what I perceive to have been an attempt to scam me.

GEIt doesn't matter if you are booking hotel rooms, riding in a taxi or enjoying some balut from a street vendor. The game is the same. It's called 'Fleece The Foreigner'. There is and always will be a two tier price structure for everything, including beaver. It's best to know this reality and accept the fact you will be scammed. The only question is how much extra you will pay compared to a flip?

[Slippery]

It doesn't matter if you are booking hotel rooms, riding in a taxi or enjoying some balut from a street vendor. The game is the same. It's called 'Fleece The Foreigner'. There is and always will be a two tier price structure for everything, including beaver. It's best to know this reality and accept the fact you will be scammed. The only question is how much extra you will pay compared to a flip?Thank you for enlightening GE and the rest of us. We really didn't know that could happen to us. And as per your racist "flip" remark, I really don't think that racist or ethnic categorizations of human beings is tolerated anywhere on this website. We would all like to know WTF you are.

[DriveAllNight]

Best Manila hotel for the money is the Diamond Hotel IMHO, but the Diamond is stuck over in Malate. Location, location, location. I like Malate, but I like Makati more. I paid $103 / night for an upgraded executive deluxe room with breakfast last time I was there. The room was excellent and they have a very nice swimming pool too.Agree with your take on the Diamond. Great hotel at a great price, but the location is inferior to Makati (unless you're shopping for a hideously ugly bakla, of course).

[Ttriumph48]

Thank you for enlightening GE and the rest of us. We really didn't know that could happen to us. And as per your racist "flip" remark, I really don't think that racist or ethnic categorizations of human beings is tolerated anywhere on this website. We would all like to know WTF you are.I agree with you whole heartedly. In the real world this small slight is really nothing to be concern about. But,"Our" ISG site is a respectable place to exchange information and views on the travel life. Even the hint of such notions are unacceptable. Sorry for being such a stick in the mud about this. But you got to make a stand on something in life. I am sure no malice was intended.

[X Man]

Why is the location inferior to Makati? It's been a long time since I stayed in Makati, so maybe I need enlightening.

If you are in Manila for business, I can see that Makati would be superior. If you really need a 1st world atmosphere in a 3rd world country, I can see that Makati would be superior. If you have a short holiday and don't mind being generous for a stunning looking woman, I think Makati has it's merits.

Ermita / Malate. Hmmm, I miss the old baywalk, but we still have those stunning Manila bay sunsets. You have easy access to Rizal Park and the Old Town to the north and EDSA entertainment plaza to the south. The two foreigner friendly buses to AC are within two blocks of each other in Ermita, near the old Ermita church if you need to ask for forgiveness. The neighborhood is edgy but that's part of the thrill.

So, if you are in MM, where is the best place to stay? X.


Agree with your take on the Diamond. Great hotel at a great price, but the location is inferior to Makati (unless you're shopping for a hideously ugly bakla, of course).

[Mc Don]

Why is the location inferior to Makati? It's been a long time since I stayed in Makati, so maybe I need enlightening.

If you are in Manila for business, I can see that Makati would be superior. If you really need a 1st world atmosphere in a 3rd world country, I can see that Makati would be superior. If you have a short holiday and don't mind being generous for a stunning looking woman, I think Makati has it's merits.

Ermita / Malate. Hmmm, I miss the old baywalk, but we still have those stunning Manila bay sunsets. You have easy access to Rizal Park and the Old Town to the north and EDSA entertainment plaza to the south. The two foreigner friendly buses to AC are within two blocks of each other in Ermita, near the old Ermita church if you need to ask for forgiveness. The neighborhood is edgy but that's part of the thrill.

So, if you are in MM, where is the best place to stay? X.I agree with everything said there. One more thing to add is we need to compare apples with apples. In Malate you will have the choice of cheap trills in MBC and the few other bars alike but you also have some of the best high end KTV's that have girls that will rival any makati establishment beauty or price wise. Makati makes sense if you have business to attend to or you really need that first world feeling around you. If you have visited few times Malate is fine. The Diamond Hotel and H2O often have great prices at half or third of the good makati hotels.

[GoodEnough]

I'm not sure about the point of this debate, as what's preferable for one may not be for the other. Surely, if you enjoy a first world feeling, then Makati and its environs-including Ortigas as I've recenly learned thanks to RK-are more desirable. If you want older, more historic and slightly edgier surroundings, then Ermita / Malate just may be the answer to your quest. There's no "better" that applies in all cases to all people.

I rarely venture to Ermita / Malate, and in fact rarely go beyond Makati / the Fort / Ortigas. Xman hasn't been to Makati in quite a while. I guess we've each found what's "better" for ourselves.

GE

[X Man]

It wasn't meant to be a "debate" GE, I was just trying to inspire people to share their ideas and info about the two places. But, I realize I'm in the "hotel" thread, so maybe this discussion belongs somewhere else. Sorry.


I'm not sure about the point of this debate, as what's preferable for one may not be for the other. Surely, if you enjoy a first world feeling, then Makati and its environs-including Ortigas as I've recenly learned thanks to RK-are more desirable. If you want older, more historic and slightly edgier surroundings, then Ermita / Malate just may be the answer to your quest. There's no "better" that applies in all cases to all people.

I rarely venture to Ermita / Malate, and in fact rarely go beyond Makati / the Fort / Ortigas. Xman hasn't been to Makati in quite a while. I guess we've each found what's "better" for ourselves.

GE

[Bruce52]

I can stay there for free using Hyatt points, but is it guest-friendly? No point in staying there, even for free, if it's going to stop me from doing what I like best! Any experience there?

Bruce

[Marconista]

Hyatt Casino & Hotel in Malate / Ermita is ABSOLUTELY a GF hotel. Club rooms are excellent, but expensive.


I can stay there for free using Hyatt points, but is it guest-friendly? No point in staying there, even for free, if it's going to stop me from doing what I like best! Any experience there?

Bruce

[Run Mann]

I can stay there for free using Hyatt points, but is it guest-friendly? No point in staying there, even for free, if it's going to stop me from doing what I like best! Any experience there?

BruceNot only GF but you can pick up some FLs right there in the Casino where many are standing on the side and some playing the games.

[PolyOrchid]

I have found some incredible and inexpensive condos on Airbnb, a site which allows owners to rent out their homes, apartments, condos by the day or week.

[Wazoo]

Thanks to the members who recommended Executive Plaza in Malate. I got an outstanding rate and 4th night free through a temporary sale on Hotels. Com. After all the discounts, I was able to book the junior suite for an average of only about 2200 pesos / night, including all taxes and fees. The location is ideal. It is right across the street from the Hyatt. It's not quite as seedy as the bar district, but just a short walk away. There's a 7-11, money exchange, and laundry right next door, and it's just around the corner from Robinson's Mall. The hotel is clean and has an efficient, friendly staff. It is quite girl friendly. After signing in an MBC girl, the doorman gave me fist pump, LOL. The junior suite was not a true suite, but just a very large room with a sofa / lounge area separated from the bed. While not luxurious, the decor was comfortable and tasteful. While I was checking in, the poor front desk girl was being harassed by an irritating guest. I expressed words of sympathy, which she appreciated. I asked for a quiet location so I could rest. She looked through the bookings and placed me in a corner room in the back of the hotel. She assured me that no other guests were in the rooms around me, and sure enough I neither saw nor heard anyone else in that wing during my 4 nights there. (The isolation was fortunate because my gf turned out to be a real screamer.) I recommend the place and would stay there again. There are some drawbacks: no safe in the hotel rooms, a very firm mattress, and aircon that blasts directly onto the bed.

[Chris Long]

I will be returning to the PI in a few weeks and will spend a few days in Manila. I am looking for a modestly priced hotel near MBC and Robinson Mall that is girl friendly and close to the action.

Thanks.

Chris

[Wazoo]

I will be returning to the PI in a few weeks and will spend a few days in Manila. I am looking for a modestly priced hotel near MBC and Robinson Mall that is girl friendly and close to the action.

Thanks.

ChrisSee my post about Executive Plaza just below yours. In the same price range you might also consider Pearl Garden, Pearl Lane, and Best Western La Corona. The Best Western is closest to the bars of this group and gets excellent reviews. I took a look at it last week while I was there and liked it quite a lot. Try Agoda, Trip Advisor, and Hotels. Com and see which has the best rate.

[Irony Monger]

See my post about Executive Plaza just below yours. In the same price range you might also consider Pearl Garden, Pearl Lane, and Best Western La Corona. The Best Western is closest to the bars of this group and gets excellent reviews. I took a look at it last week while I was there and liked it quite a lot. Try Agoda, Trip Advisor, and Hotels. Com and see which has the best rate.I'll be at the Best Western for one night in about 2 weeks. I'll post a recent review with pics when I get back.

[Sammon]

I'll be at the Best Western for one night in about 2 weeks. I'll post a recent review with pics when I get back.Best western on Del Pilar is a fairly good hotel. Nice buffett breakfast. However the prices have gone up recently. Total girlfriendly and they generally do not bother to check as long as you are accompanying them.

Rooms are fairly basic.

Locationwise it is excellent for a walk to MBC and also if anybody is catching a swagman bus to AC.

[Chocha Monger]

Where an ordinance seeks to prohibit 'wash-up' rates in lodging establishments to dissuade against illicit sexual relationships and drug use, it may be struck down for over-reaching into the sphere of constitutionally protected rights.

In 1992, a Manila ordinance was passed prohibiting short-time admission or 'wash-up' rates in hotels, motels, lodging houses, and other similar establishments in Manila. 'Wash-up' rates refer to the practice of charging room rates for less than twelve hours (12) or renting out a room more than twice a day. This was pursuant to the city's declared policy to protect the morality of its constituents.

Hotel operators filed a petition before the court to declare the ordinance unconstitutional for violating the right to privacy and freedom of movement, and for unreasonably interfering with their business.

The Regional Trial Court declared it null and void. It noted that the ordinance struck 'at the personal liberty of the individual guaranteed and jealously guarded by the Constitution. ' It observed that the ordinance's purpose of discouraging illicit relations, prostitution, adultery, use of illegal drugs and the like could still be frustrated by simply paying for a full 12-hour stay.

Before the Court of Appeals (CA) , the city government asserted that the ordinance was a valid exercise of its police power.

Under the Local Government Code, cities have the power to regulate the establishment, operation and maintenance of hotels, motels, and other similar establishments. Also, the Revised Manila Charter gave it authority to enact ordinances it may deem necessary to promote the morality and general welfare of its constituents.

The CA upheld the constitutionality of the ordinance. It ruled that it did not violate the right to privacy or freedom of movement because it only penalized the operators of the establishments. Regarding police power, its exercise only needs a lawful purpose obtained through lawful or reasonably necessary means to be considered valid. The CA found that the purpose of the ordinance justified the adverse effects on the said establishments. It considered the means lawful since they were still allowed to operate.

The Supreme Court (SC) upheld the ruling of the trial court. It opined that the means used to achieve the purpose of the ordinance was not reasonably necessary since it discounted other legitimate activities that would be adversely affected. For instance, it overlooked the fact that the right to legitimate sexual behavior among married or consenting single adults will be curtailed. Transit passengers who wish to rest in between trips also opt to stay in these establishments for short periods.

Entire families are known to pass the time in a hotel when electricity is out. Indeed, there are other purposes for checking in other than sex or drug use. Held the High Court.

We reiterate that individual rights may be adversely affected only to the extent that may fairly be required by the legitimate demands of public interest or public welfare. The State is a leviathan that must be restrained from needlessly intruding into the lives of its citizens. However well intentioned the Ordinance may be, it is in effect an arbitrary and whimsical intrusion into the rights of the establishments as well as their patrons. The Ordinance needlessly restrains the operation of the businesses of the petitioners as well as restricting the rights of their patrons without sufficient justification (White Light Corporation v. City of Manila, G. R. No. 122846, 20 January 2009, J. Tinga).

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/opinion/columnist1/41367-our-right-to-wash-up-motel-rates

[Member #4387]

Time to give review of both places and Riviera Mansions junior suite has been great for 6 days as I have lived there a bit on and off. Great staff and very friendly as long you bring some girlcompany back. They have in this way allways been friendly to me. Easy buy on wifi. 1400piso, for 1week and very connective and strong signals. Convenient location MBC, Casino, Robinson and Insomnia. 3200piso per day not a bad deal for big room, kitchenette although with limited supplies, and seperate bedroom. Even dining table and restarea with sofa.

Ascott Residence here we are talking real 5 star as for European standards. It is a serviced apartment place. I was upgraded from Studio to 1 bedroom apt upon arrival. Around 60sqm. Flatscreens 42" in livingroom and 37" in bedroom both with DVD's connected. Location is just across from Intercontinental and entrance to hotel is side by side with entrance to Glorietta 4 (here you are connected with most out of other malls in Makati such as Greenbelt, Landmark, SM21 and even MRT.

Pool is in 6'th floor same as reception.

Cost a bit as in my room 10500piso per night. But you can come across good deals also here.

This trip I chose to have 2 places to crash. So both places mentioned above I have stayed though so far most in Riviera Mansion. Today I send For my remaining stuff from Riviera and got it here to Ascott where I have my passport and valubales so I guess I am all checked out now from Riviera. Reason for this is that I simply can not stand Manila traffic chaos. Only time to move around by taxi is between 3. 5am. When I read reports inside this forum and read about members travelling from Malate to Makati. Makati to Quezon and then back to Malate I simply don't get it. Atleast when they also tell they stop by some bars and clubs on the way only to find out it was boring. And drove off. No my soulution suits me more.

My business so far have been located mostly in Malate as even if some Datingsites girl state they live in Makati it seems when the day has showed they are located much closer to Malate. But it has been nice having 2 places you can switch in between as I like my mongering to be without hazzle and except from a daytrip around big parts of Manila I understood why I did it like this. It also to much hazzle to pack unpack everyday to move around.

Keep it simple.

From now on and until Tuesday it is all Makati operations in my case. Off to Havana.

[Hutsori]

Time to give review of both places and Riviera Mansions junior suite has been great for 6 days as I have lived there a bit on and off.

Ascott Residence here we are talking real 5 star as for European standards.

Cost a bit as in my room 10500piso per night. But you can come across good deals also here.Good report. P10500 per night is a bit dear. For those more economy-minded you can find find short-term 1-br condo rentals in Makati starting at approx. P25k per month. Though not 5-star at that price, they are nevertheless well fitted, have security, parking (for guests who drive) , pool, gym, etc. You may not need an entire month, but if you stay 3 days or more at a serviced residence or posh hotel the savings are evident. More money for your fun. Some owners may be inclined to do a shorter 1-week or 2-week rental at a higher rate; condo-association rules prevail, and some owners don't have much flexibility. Of course you can find outstanding condos at p50k + per month.

[Irony Monger]

Here is my review of the Best Western La Corona Hotel based on my stay there last week.

http://www.bestwesternhotelmanila.com/

Checked in for a 1 night stay in a superior room. Had paid in advance via Travelocity. They asked for PHP1500 additional deposit on checkin, which was returned upon checkout. Quick pros / cons review below with pics.


Pros:
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Located between the Manila Bay Cafe (aka MBC, good for picking up freelancers) and the Swagman Hotel (in case you use their bus service).

Fairly cheap. Their website shows PHP2900 (approx $71) night for the lowest price superior room. You can get it slightly cheaper on Agoda, but Travelocity seemed to have the best deal at $53 / night with breakfast included.

Free wifi.

Decent fridge / mini-bar.

They do provide shampoo and laundry bags. You might not think this is a big plus until you stay at many of the hotels in PI that don't bother with these details.

Decent free breakfast buffet.

Never a problem finding a cab.


Cons:
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Bed is so / so. Not all that comfortable, but not the worse I have had in PI. Just your typical foam mattress on a wood slab with a headboard bolted onto it.

Room was a bit dated. It looks better in pictures than it does in person.

Lousy view of some dilapidated building across the street.

No ironing board or iron.

Poor lighting if the windows are closed (and trust me you want them closed).

Lots of beggars between the hotel and MBC.

Card key door lock mechanism really flaky. Typically took 6 or more tries to get in the door. Yes, I was completely sober at the time, and yes I asked for a replacement key (it didn't help).


Conclusion
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If you are staying in Ermita and want a cheap, clean, functional room this place works. It is a step up from the Swagman in quality, but not much more in price if you book through Travelocity. It was about a 5 min walk to MBC and 2 blocks from the Swagman hotel (I used the Swagman bus service to Puerto Galera, then just walked to the Best Western with bags in tow. Only took a couple minutes). I would stay there again for short visits (1-2 nights) if I need to be in the area, but I definitely prefer Makati hotels for longer stays even though they are more expensive.

[Aibolit]

Respected gents,

I wonder, if any of you could help me solve a dilemma. I am torn between Shangri-La and New World in Makati. The pros of the NW are:

1. Located near the action and Green Belt 3, where Havana Cafe with FLs is.

2. Has night club with reportedley good looking ladies (so, if in the middle of the night or early morning I like to arrange something for now or later. I can get down the elevator and do so).

The cons of the New World is. It is not Shangri-La! And I like the idea to stay at SL, as I like comfort and it may impress some of the non-pro or semi-pro talent that I may be trying to lure there.

I though that may be if SL is a short walking distance (that is safe at night) from NW. Then I can stay in SL, while enjoying the benefits of the NW. Will appreciate any feedback regarding this dilemma.

Thanks! A

[WestCoast1]

Does anyone have an email for Boulevard Mansion or Mabini Mansion / Residential Suites in Malate? I can't find it on the website.

[Likemflat]

I'm new here but have posted most recently in the Germany section. I'll be sure to post about my PI experiences after my trip.

I'm heading to Manila in a month or two for business and I have some questions. I'm thinking of exploring the semi-pro and non-pro scene. I'm not too old and am decent looking and I'll have time to invest. So I've read the forum and some of these things have been addressed, but sometimes with differing opinions.

If I plan to go for non- and semi-pros, does it matter if I stay in a nice hotel? I usually stay in mid-range places to save cash for mongering and also because I don't need a luxury place really. But will the girls put out more if I stay in a higher-end place, or will they just expect more cash, more shopping and fancier dinners?

I was thinking of staying in the area near MBC / LA Cafe, since that would probably be my backup venue. I prefer freelancer venues to barfine places. Also that area is near Robinsons mall-is that also a nice spot for non-pros?

I'd be open to suggestions for other areas but I'd like to be close to a mall, close to good restaurants, and close to a freelancer spot.

Any specific hotel suggestions?

[Hutsori]

I'm new here but have posted most recently in the Germany section. I'll be sure to post about my PI experiences after my trip.

I'm heading to Manila in a month or two for business and I have some questions. I'm thinking of exploring the semi-pro and non-pro scene. I'm not too old and am decent looking and I'll have time to invest. So I've read the forum and some of these things have been addressed, but sometimes with differing opinions.

If I plan to go for non- and semi-pros, does it matter if I stay in a nice hotel? I usually stay in mid-range places to save cash for mongering and also because I don't need a luxury place really. But will the girls put out more if I stay in a higher-end place, or will they just expect more cash, more shopping and fancier dinners?

I was thinking of staying in the area near MBC / LA Cafe, since that would probably be my backup venue. I prefer freelancer venues to barfine places. Also that area is near Robinsons mall-is that also a nice spot for non-pros?

I'd be open to suggestions for other areas but I'd like to be close to a mall, close to good restaurants, and close to a freelancer spot.

Any specific hotel suggestions?I think you don't need to stay at a posh hotel. A 700-thread per inch cotton bed sheet isn't going to make for a better GFE. You'll be fine as long as the place is clean, comfortable, quiet, and most importantly for you has free in-room wifi and a safe. There are some here who believe that a 5-star hotel guarantees a 5-star experience, and others counter that the girl's fee or expectations may adjust upward because she believes you're wealthier. I count myself in the latter camp. Much more important is to treat the girl kindly, don't ridicule her or her country, be fun, and be decisive - if you let the girl call the shots you may find a shrewd one who's taking you to places that'll bleed your wallet. I'm of the opinion that it's a bit more difficult to entice some non-pros to come to Ermita / Malate if they live outside the area. The place has a rep of being dangerous, dirty, and seedy. Though I live in Makati, I tend to socialize in Malate, and some girls I meet refuse to set foot there. Their entire (very limited) world is Makati and BGC.

Robinson's has a rep for a pick up place, but I think it's mostly pros and semi-pros. I'm not a mall wanderer, finding "wandering" online to be much more effective though not as potentially immediately gratifying.

[Key Master]

I'm heading to Manila in a month or two for business and I have some questions. I'm thinking of exploring the semi-pro and non-pro scene. I'm not too old and am decent looking and I'll have time to invest. So I've read the forum and some of these things have been addressed, but sometimes with differing opinions.

I was thinking of staying in the area near MBC / LA Cafe, since that would probably be my backup venue. I prefer freelancer venues to barfine places. Also that area is near Robinsons mall-is that also a nice spot for non-pros?

I'd be open to suggestions for other areas but I'd like to be close to a mall, close to good restaurants, and close to a freelancer spot.

Any specific hotel suggestions?Can you be more specific on what you want out of a hotel? Price and amenities or whatever else? Are you going to be working in a certain area like Makati most of the time? I ask this because you say you are there for business, but will it involve a commute because traffic may be a concern if you have to do it regularly? When mongering, if you are strictly limited to later hours, the drive in a taxi is not that big of a deal.

Staying in Ermita for MBC is ok. I stay there a lot but it's not for everyone. I eat at Robinson's a lot during the daytime for the variety, but at night it changes when they are closed. Walking around the streets is a little bit shady so it depends on what you want. It's just a lot darker than say staying in Makati. Don't know how much experience you have walking the streets as such. Don't get me wrong, most likely nothing bad will happen if you stay there. If I wanted good restaurants I may to prefer to stay in the Makati area more.

[Likemflat]

Can you be more specific on what you want out of a hotel? Price and amenities or whatever else? Are you going to be working in a certain area like Makati most of the time? I ask this because you say you are there for business, but will it involve a commute because traffic may be a concern if you have to do it regularly? When mongering, if you are strictly limited to later hours, the drive in a taxi is not that big of a deal.

Staying in Ermita for MBC is ok. I stay there a lot but it's not for everyone. I eat at Robinson's a lot during the daytime for the variety, but at night it changes when they are closed. Walking around the streets is a little bit shady so it depends on what you want. It's just a lot darker than say staying in Makati. Don't know how much experience you have walking the streets as such. Don't get me wrong, most likely nothing bad will happen if you stay there. If I wanted good restaurants I may to prefer to stay in the Makati area more.Thanks Key Master and Hutsori.

My business involves research in a few parts of the city, actually Ermita may be more convenient but not by much. Also I tend to start working early in the morning, so I can beat rush-hour traffic to some extent. Most of my mongering will be in the afternoon and evening. I want to do something a bit different on this trip and find maybe 2-3 girls to date while I'm there. This may be against the mongering code but I may actually want a relationship-or not. We'll see. But if my non-pro or semi-pro ideas don't work out, I don't want to be too far from a backup plan.

In Makati are there any freelancer places?

I'd love to pay around $50USD per night for the hotel, but could stretch it to $100 if it will help me with the non-pros. I don't care about paying extra for my own comfort as long as the place is clean and safe. I won't really be free during the day so I don't care too much about extra amenities at the hotel. I guess a fridge would be nice.

I do worry about girls not wanting to visit me in Ermita if it is indeed a bit rough around the edges. I've been to some rough corners of the world so I'm not so worried about myself.

What time does Robinson's close? How about the malls in Makati?

[Hutsori]

In Makati are there any freelancer places?Havana Cafe, but you won't find FL's there in the afternoon or early evening. MBC is your best bet for that.


I'd love to pay around $50USD per night for the hotel, but could stretch it to $100 if it will help me with the non-pros. I don't care about paying extra for my own comfort as long as the place is clean and safe. I won't really be free during the day so I don't care too much about extra amenities at the hotel. I guess a fridge would be nice.Plenty of places in that range, though $50 is about as low as it goes if you're not willing to stay at a pensionne. Make certain that your booking is for 2 and there is no upcharge for a guest as some lower-end hotels promote low rates but per person. Unless she works in the hospitality business I doubt a non-pro would even know of hotels other than the top ones such as the Shangri La and the Peninsula. For amenities you'll certainly want a safe and free in-room wifi - make sure to check on that because some hotels only offer free wifi in the lobby/lounge.


I do worry about girls not wanting to visit me in Ermita if it is indeed a bit rough around the edges. I've been to some rough corners of the world so I'm not so worried about myself.Don't get me wrong, there are plenty who will visit you in Ermita. You just may come across one who refuses to meet there.


What time does Robinson's close? How about the malls in Makati?9 or 10 pm depending on the day of the week. However, with all the restaurants and bars at Greenbelt the place is still lively into the wee hours, especially Thur - Sat nights.

[Amanut]

I have only been to the Philippines three times. Once I stayed outside Makati on Shaw Blvd and it was ok. The rest of the times I have stayed in Makati and preferred it. The last time I was there I stayed at Mosaic Tower and found that for me, it to be the best place I have stayed. It is a guarded condo building with a bachelor suite a block from Greenbelt. It is easy to wander over to Greenbelt, get a bite to eat earlier in the evening and go back to the room for a for a break, and head back Greenbelt if you wish. Or just hang around and watch the shows. The entertainment at Greenbelt can be very good.

The condo had in room wifi, a 32 inch flat screen, a full fridge, micro wave, and a coffee pot with dishes. The stove had been removed. They provide three day a week maid service. It was perfect for what I wanted. A word of caution though. I had a woman over once and was expecting her back as she was coming to spend the weekend. I was was surprised when she was able to arrive and knock on my door without the guards calling me to confirm.

Their price is in your range and if you are booking for two months I am sure it will be well within your range.

Sorry to all the senior members as I realize I repeat some of what I say, but I only do so when I think it is helpful. After three trips, I don't got much lol but I'm coming back. I guess I could have just started this by saying see my previous post. :)

[Dante2]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me.

Is this even possible to find? Or should I just skip Manila and stay in AC?

Thanks

[Amanut]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me. ThanksThere is a place just off Burgos on Kalayaan Ave. called the Howzat Inn. I stayed there for a few nights in October. It has a sports bar attached to it with lots of expats watching soccer at the time. The larger bedroom on the main floor was 1, 600 pesos a night for double occupancy. The price included a small fridge with freezer compartment, air conditioning, in room safe, wifi in the room, and cable TV with a reasonable channel selection. I assume the smaller rooms upstairs were less but I did not look at them as there were none available so I don't know if they included all the same amenities.

I was under the impression that it may not be girl friendly as it was primarily families staying there, but others have said there were no issues when they brought ladies back. It had some of the best pub food I have had in the Philippines with very reasonably priced drinks. They were very accommodating to me as they even cooked up a huge rib steak I had brought from Canada for the lady I was with to try. What we could not finish we gave to the waitress to take home and she could not do enough for us for the rest of our stay. You are a short inexpensive cab ride away from Green belt.

[WestCoast1]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me.

Is this even possible to find? Or should I just skip Manila and stay in AC?

ThanksOn Del Pilar in Malate, The Duck Inn. Sounds a lot like Howzat. Low-end, bed, in-room safe, wifi. Three sizes of rooms, the mid-size room is about 1500 pesos (don't get the small room, you can hardly turn around without bumping into a wall). Its a clean place, with a restaurant and bar. All rooms up one or two flights of stairs, no elevator. Walk out the door, turn right, and walk about 6 blocks to MBC (LA Cafe).

Also there are Pensiones in the area for less, but bringing a girl in might now wash.

[Red Kilt]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me.There's some good advice from Amanut & WC here but wherever you stay, take 5 minutes after you arrive to familiarise yourself with escape routes in case of fires.

There have been a lot of fires in and around Manila in the past few months (in shanty towns and a hotel and a condo) , and with all these very old places in Malate / Ermita that are all conjoined and butting up against each other any fire in one very quickly spreads to the whole block.

I am not suggesting you become paranoid about it, but just check if there are alarms, fire escape doors that are not locked, windows without bars on them and other normal due diligence. You need to be sure you can get out easily.

[Hutsori]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me.

Is this even possible to find? Or should I just skip Manila and stay in AC?

ThanksIn addition to the Howzat there is The Clipper at the corner of Kalayaan and Burgos; the quite small rooms are approx p1300. Both Howzat and The Clipper offer free wifi. Some of the Howzat's room safes are broken. You could also stay at the Tune Hotel for that price if you're careful with the extras, e.g. AC, TV, DVD, wifi, towels, flushing the toilet. I don't know if the Tune is girl friendly. Due to the amenities (mentioned by Amanut) I'd stay at the Howzat if you get a room with a working safe. Nice about the place is you can keep the AC running 24x7 so when you return to your room it's already comfortable. Only hassle I found was the wifi was a bit dodgy, so you have to keep finding the maid to ask her to reboot the router. Should mention the place does not have any security either. If you stay 3 or more days they'll give you a discount.

[YG365]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me.

Is this even possible to find? Or should I just skip Manila and stay in AC?

ThanksDang. I guss you're trying to go as cheap as possible? Are you just taking up like $700 for a week trip? What hotel are you staying at in Angeles?

[Dante2]

Yes I am trying to go as cheap as possible, I'm renting someones apartment while in angeles but know its not difficult to find a room there for 1k pesos or less.

[Likemflat]

I'm still trying to decide between Ermita and Makati-I like to stay in nice surroundings but I'm not afraid of edgy neighborhoods. And I'd like a nice area to meet non-pros but I know those plans could fall through so I want a solid backup venue.

Any other suggestions for a nice place ($50-75USD) in either area?

One other thing. If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?

[Fast Eddie 48]

I'm still trying to decide between Ermita and Makati-I like to stay in nice surroundings but I'm not afraid of edgy neighborhoods. And I'd like a nice area to meet non-pros but I know those plans could fall through so I want a solid backup venue.

Any other suggestions for a nice place ($50-75USD) in either area?

One other thing. If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?To Likemflat,

I stay at the las Plamas on my last trip 1800 p a night nice large room with mini bar and hotel safe across from the Hyatt and robinson mall 10 min walk to The LA IN Malate, Malate is border with Ermita is a better area.

Fast Eddie 48

[Irony Monger]

I'm still trying to decide between Ermita and Makati-I like to stay in nice surroundings but I'm not afraid of edgy neighborhoods. And I'd like a nice area to meet non-pros but I know those plans could fall through so I want a solid backup venue.

Any other suggestions for a nice place ($50-75USD) in either area?St. Giles in Makati is usually around $70 on Agoda. Quality hotel, around the corner from Burgos, and I've brought both pros and non-pros there with no trouble. In Ermita I have only stayed at the Best Western La Corona, which was not as good for almost the same price as St. Giles.


One other thing. If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?If you are a US citizen, you could always say you wanted to be close to the embassy for INSERT FAVORITE FAKE REASON HERE.

[YG365]

I'm still trying to decide between Ermita and Makati-I like to stay in nice surroundings but I'm not afraid of edgy neighborhoods. And I'd like a nice area to meet non-pros but I know those plans could fall through so I want a solid backup venue.

Any other suggestions for a nice place ($50-75USD) in either area?

One other thing. If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?I prefer staying in Ermita, although I've stayed in Makati my last 4 trips in 1 1/2 years. One of the main reasons why I don't like Makati and St Giles is, it's impossible to get a taxi during rush hour! Trust me, if you're going to stay at St Giles, always leave early cause it'll be awhile before you're able to flag a taxi down. Especially on your last day, when you're trying to get to the airport.

The few times I've stayed in Ermita, I had no problem getting a taxi! A lot of times, I'd just walk down to Manila Bay Cafe and spend most of my time there. Or sometimes I'd hit up the mall which is a few blocks away.

YG!

[Soapy Smith]

If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?I have stayed in Ermita and simply told my non-mongering work colleagues, including Filipinos, that I couldn't recall the hotel name. If they press for where it is, tell them it's in Malate, or tell them it's near Remedios Circle. Malate generally does not have the sleazy image that Ermita has, and it does actually have a few more high end hotels. If you bring a DIA or other woman in, just tell her it's in Malate.

In fact, staying in Ermita or nearby in Malate is a good way to keep most Filipino professionals out of eyeshot of your mongering activities, since they generally avoid Ermita with the exception of Robinson's Place Mall and a couple of night clubs.

I would second Fast Eddie's recommendation. There's a group of four small hotels, all part of the same group, clustered together in one building block-Las Palmas, Palm Plaza, Executive Suites, and Riviera. They are not great, but they probably wouldn't be objectionable to a woman you bring in. Another one nearby of about the same grade is the Rothman. All these are technically in Malate, not Ermita. So you're not lying if you say your hotel is in Malate.

[Soapy Smith]

There's a group of four small hotels, all part of the same group, clustered together in one building block-Las Palmas, Palm Plaza, Executive Suites, and Riviera.My bad: should have been Executive Plaza and Riviera Mansion.

[Likemflat]

Thanks everyone! Malate seems kind of ideal for me, and it's (somewhat, but not too) close to one of the places I need to go for my work. I really appreciate the good advice and assuming my trip goes off, I'll be sure to report on my experiences.

[Blackangst]

Does anyone have an email for Boulevard Mansion or Mabini Mansion / Residential Suites in Malate? I can't find it on the website.Try marketing@mansiongroup.com.ph

[Irony Monger]

One other thing. If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?Oh, one more excuse that never fails,"The hotel was such good deal on Agoda, no wonder, I had no idea that the neighborhood was like this" :)

[Pier20]

I'm still trying to decide between Ermita and Makati-I like to stay in nice surroundings but I'm not afraid of edgy neighborhoods. And I'd like a nice area to meet non-pros but I know those plans could fall through so I want a solid backup venue.

Any other suggestions for a nice place ($50-75USD) in either area?

One other thing. If I stay in Ermita will that be seen as suspect by my non-mongering work colleagues who may find out what part of town I'm staying in? Does anyone stay in Ermita for anything other than sex?I recently stayed at Boulevard Mansion Hotel in Ermita. I booked from Agoda the non-smoking room (at $67 if I remember) only for one night as the comments on this hotel were not very good. I found it very good:

- though a little worn and dark inside, it has nice view on Manila Bay and the front door is on the Bay side road and doesn't let suppose you are 100m from the infamous MBC.

- the girls from MBC like it very much, close and big rooms.

After the first night I extended my stay and was surprised to be quoted around $10 less than Agoda. So this is a good tip to make the first reservation through agoda for only one day, see if the hotel suits you, and book the following nights directly at the front desk. Tel is: (632) 521 8888. In my opinion, unbeatable if your primary target is MBC.

[Docwiltro]

If I'm looking to pay $25-$30 a night are there really no options?

Looking for something near makati for a couple of nights and near LA cafe for a couple of nights, obviously not looking for anything to nice but also not going to have rats jumping in bed with me.

Is this even possible to find? Or should I just skip Manila and stay in AC?

ThanksNever skip Manila, great mongering in numerous venues. I stay at the Duck Inn (p1, 400) when in Ermita which is just a block or two from MBC. Also, the Duck Inn is about a 3 minute walk from Swagman's where you can catch Fly The Bus to your A. C. Hotel for p600 (a little pricey but a safe way to travel to Angeles).

[WestCoast1]

Never skip Manila, great mongering in numerous venues. I stay at the Duck Inn (p1, 400) when in Ermita which is just a block or two from MBC. Also, the Duck Inn is about a 3 minute walk from Swagman's where you can catch Fly The Bus to your A. C. Hotel for p600 (a little pricey but a safe way to travel to Angeles).Dante, Duck Inn is a good call. 3 different sized rooms. Opt to pay +100 pesos more for the mid-sized room. The small room is extremely tiny, barely enough room for the bed (want to sit your luggage down? Good luck). Duck Inn has a restaurant on premises (not cheap) with good food, and a bar with live band 3 nights a week. No elevator, all rooms on floors 2 and 3. All rooms have a safe inside. Credit card they add a surcharge, so pay in cash. I think MBC is about 4 blocks; as you exit the hotel turn right and walk until you pass Amazonia (on your left) , then another block to MBC. Can be sketchy at night. Also, as you depart Duck Inn and turn right, just one block on your left is a neat outdoor resto / bar with live band most nights, I think its called Six-Star. Good food, fair prices. Happy hunting keep us updated with reports.

[Amanut]

I am coming back for at least a month to work in Quezon City and have a huge smile on my face. Finally someone to pay my trip instead of the costs coming out of my pocket for a holiday. The business I will be consulting for is located near Cliff Drive and Barangay Blue Ridge A. I am not at all familiar with this area. In fact when I look at Google Maps I am wondering if the address on their business cards is an office space or the business owner's residential address.

My employer here has asked me to pull together a budget for the month. My preference would be to rent a fully furnished one bedroom condo with cooking facilities within walking distance as I will likely be hauling a laptop back and forth to work with me. I don't want to be fighting traffic in a taxi or riding jeepneys.

Does anyone have any suggestions about the rental situation and costs in this area. Cost wise, am I better to have the Filipino business there rent it for me, or simply do it myself? I have used iBilik.com in the past with good luck, but they seem to primarily be listing rooms for students in QC.

I have been reading about safety in the area and all I can find is don't stay close to the fault line. Go figure.

Thanks for your help.

[Pete Benetar]

Does anyone have any suggestions about the rental situation and costs in this area. Cost wise, am I better to have the Filipino business there rent it for me, or simply do it myself? I have used iBilik.com in the past with good luck, but they seem to primarily be listing rooms for students in QC.

Just looked up airbnb dot com for QC which is a site I've used in the US; pickings look slim for QC on airbnb though more bountiful for other areas of Manila. You might want to take a gander at it anyways as I've been satisfied with the connections I've made using them (airbnb) here at home. Congrats on your new contract!

[Soapy Smith]

Credit card they add a surcharge, so pay in cash.I stayed at Duck Inn one night beginning of March and they would not take a credit card at all, although they put off collecting until the next day, so I was able to get to an ATM.

[Soapy Smith]

I am coming back for at least a month to work in Quezon City and have a huge smile on my face. Finally someone to pay my trip instead of the costs coming out of my pocket for a holiday. The business I will be consulting for is located near Cliff Drive and Barangay Blue Ridge A. I am not at all familiar with this area. In fact when I look at Google Maps I am wondering if the address on their business cards is an office space or the business owner's residential address.Getting close to the customer's workplace makes sense, but might this leave you rather far from mongering and transportation corridors for getting to the usual mongering locations? Obviously bringing in women contacted online is an option, but then they have to find their way back into this neck of the woods over along the Marikina River. If you could get located near the LRT 2 line, either at Santolan or the Katipunan station (near Ateneo) , you have a much better transportation corridor. LRT 2 is doable when LRT 1 and MRT are jam-packed. Quezon City is one of the Metro cities that does permit motorized tricycles. If you're not too tall and can put up with a few minutes of noise, they can get you in and out of the Cliff Drive area pretty easily and cheaply, and when it's raining they can often get you closer to your destination than can taxis.

[Amanut]

Thank you Pete. I took a look and that seems to be a better online site for this area of town.

Thanks Skip Coast. I will look at that as well. Based on your advise perhaps it will be best for me to check into a hotel for a day or so then decide on a location to stay for the rest of my trip. I hadn't considered the LRT or tricycles. My height won't be an issue. I expect my trips to the mongering areas will be restricted to weekends. I have started looking at FC and CB for ladies living in the QC area and will start to make some contacts a couple weeks before I fly. DIA is no longer an option for me as I don't post my picture there.

And yes there is a shit eating grin on my face. I take early retirement and start collecting pension on April 19. As soon as my new employer found out I was retiring and because he knew I enjoyed Manila he offered me a job to start April 22. We just have to work out the processes and get a work permit arranged for me over there. I do have to exercise some discretion about how I am perceived as the people I will be working for are very politically connected and very religious. Read attend mass everyday of the week and I don't want to mess up the potential for return trips.

[Red Kilt]

Credit card they add a surcharge, so pay in cash.I have raised this here many times.

A surcharge on Credit Cards is ILLEGAL by a Republic Act 7394 Article 81

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/17/10/credit-card-surcharges-are-unlawful-says-dti

Put the RA 7394 in your phone and quote it at them.

Call them out on it and tell them you are going to report it to the Dept of Trade and Industry (DTI) and show them the numbers.

DTI-Direct. (632) 751-3330.

DTI-NCR, CAPD (National Capital Region clients) 811-8231 to 32.

The DTI has the power to close down their business.

Every time I do this I have the surcharge dropped. A few grumpy owners didn't like me because I was showing they are breaking the law.

I reported them anyway. The DTI sent me a letter of thanks.

They try this all the time in Boracay and Bohol (that I know about) because customers are used to paying surcharges elsewhere in the world. It seems Duck Inn is also in on the act.

If you don't like confrontation, then just pay cash. I am not confrontational at all but I quite enjoy watching them change their tune as soon as you challenge them.

If the clerk won't do it ask to see the manager.

If he / she isn't around then ask them to please show the surcharge on the receipt as well as the real price so that you can report it to the DTI

[FreebieFan]

I have raised this here many times.

A surcharge on Credit Cards is ILLEGAL by a Republic Act 7394 Article 81.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/17/10/credit-card-surcharges-are-unlawful-says-dti

Put the RA 7394 in your phone and quote it at them.

Call them out on it and tell them you are going to report it to the Dept of Trade and Industry (DTI) and show them the numbers.

DTI-Direct. (632) 751-3330.

DTI-NCR, CAPD (National Capital Region clients) 811-8231 to 32.

The DTI has the power to close down their business.

Every time I do this I have the surcharge dropped. A few grumpy owners didn't like me because I was showing they are breaking the law.

I reported them anyway. The DTI sent me a letter of thanks.

They try this all the time in Boracay and Bohol (that I know about) because customers are used to paying surcharges elsewhere in the world. It seems Duck Inn is also in on the act.

If you don't like confrontation, then just pay cash. I am not confrontational at all but I quite enjoy watching them change their tune as soon as you challenge them.

If the clerk won't do it ask to see the manager.

If he / she isn't around then ask them to please show the surcharge on the receipt as well as the real price so that you can report it to the DTIGreat post RK. I have been fighting this "sh1t" all my life. I'm fully aware of what a merchant agreement says and what it doesn't say and always refuse to pay. Altho when Sofia presented me her bill, I did ask if she took cards and she said there was no surcharge to the P8000.

[Pete Benetar]

Altho when Sofia presented me her bill, I did ask if she took cards and she said there was no surcharge to the P8000.BAHAHAHA. Nice, Freebie, now that we've settled no add on fees for P8000 on a few covered pops. OTOH, money is just paper or even less, digitized numerics for puppet masters on Wall St or anyone with real money. 155 million USD for a pornographic canvas portraying a lassie masturbating with breast exposed for groping and licking some dick (Picasso's presumably).

[Soapy Smith]

i do have to exercise some discretion about how i am perceived as the people i will be working for are very politically connected and very religious. read attend mass everyday of the week and i don't want to mess up the potential for return trips.a possible strategy is to do your mongering away from where your client assumes you are hanging your hat. if you're living near your client's home or business, you should avoid bringing your female entertainment around your living quarters. as a westerner you will stick out somewhat, and there's always the chance somebody who knows your client will send signals up the bamboo grapevine about the variety of women showing up at your place.

several years ago i lived for five months in an apartment building across katipunan avenue from the ateneo campus. the area was flush with western eating establishments, and filipino professionals, including some who knew me, often showed up in the area. occasionally i would run into some professional acquaintance chatting up my building's security guards. other times workmates would show up unexpectedly at my apartment building looking to have a few beers. in order to keep my mongering far from my professional zip code i simply headed to ermita on weekends, paid for one of the lower priced monger hotel rooms for friday and saturday nights, and brought female entertainment to the hotel from one of the freelancer clubs like la cafe or plucked them from robinson's place mall. when workmates inquired later why they hadn't been able to find me over the weekend, i provided one of several tourist sightseeing lies.

ermita is not the only manila mongering destination, but its advantage is that most filipino professionals avoid it because of its sleazy image, and so odds of being discovered there are very low. if you make plans like this, then you can save some money on your "official" living quarters since you won't be needing a palatial setting to impress your horizontal recreation partners.

[Amanut]

Thanks Skip. Good practical advice that I will use.

[Fast Eddie 48]

i stayed at duck inn one night beginning of march and they would not take a credit card at all, although they put off collecting until the next day, so i was able to get to an atm.to skip post

i stay there for one night last yr one a dump small room and small tv with [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) stain on toilet seat, they did offer me a discount if i paid in cash upfront 1400 php with a 100 php discount.

fast eddie 48

[Chris Peterson]

My filippino travel agent wants to book the H20 hotel in Manila.

1) Is it close to the action?

2) Is it girlfriendly?

Thanks!

[Ttriumph48]

My filippino travel agent wants to book the H20 hotel in Manila.

1) Is it close to the action?

2) Is it girlfriendly?

Thanks!Close to EDSA complex. Every hotel in manila is girl friendly. Tell us how you liked the hotel. I will be Manila in May.

[X Man]

It is relatively close to the Ermita bars if you go by taxi. You could walk, but not advised. Especially in April when it is very hot and humid.

You didn't tell us when you are going, nor did you tell us how acceptable you are to 3rd world city hiking. LOL. Last trip, around midnight, I picked up a real gem off Mabini just walking from Luneta park back to my hotel in Malate. This (the midnight walk) is NOT advised for the faint of heart.

H2O is fairly new and sandwiched between the bay and Luneta park. I'm sure you'll have some great views. It's not going to be cheap, but you probably already know that. If you like old world charm you might try the Manila hotel in the same area. It might be cheaper. If you have an aquarium in your room, I guess the gal will spend less time watching tv and checking her phone messages. If you stay there, I hope you can give us a field / trip report (FR) (TR)

Has your agent suggested a price for H2O? Give us more info about your situation. You might get other recommendations and / or info.

I've never stayed there, but I seriously doubt that they would object to a female guest.

Without knowing much about your situation, you might do some research on Diamond Hotel. X Man.


My filippino travel agent wants to book the H20 hotel in Manila.

1) Is it close to the action?

2) Is it girlfriendly?

Thanks!

[Escort Fan]

I am preparing my next trip to Manila and I am horrified by the hotel prices.

Hyatt is 140 euros +, Dusit 150 euros +, Shangri La Makati is 240 euros +. WTF.

The new hotels such as Raffles and the hotel from the new casino also have very high prices 200 euros ++.

I mean I've always stayed in the past at those hotel (except Shangri La Makati which has always been expensive) for 100 euros or so.

What's the best way to find good hotels deals in MNL these days?

[Wazoo]

My filippino travel agent wants to book the H20 hotel in Manila.

1) Is it close to the action?

2) Is it girlfriendly?

Thanks!I was interested in this hotel too and checked it out on my last trip for a possible future stay. It's clean and has great views, and the no doubt the girls would like the novelty aquarium rooms. It is relatively close to the Mall of Asia and there are some nice restaurants around. I think it would be a good place if you had gf staying with you. I don't think it's the best if you are going to be out cruising the clubs for takeout. From what I could tell, access to the hotel goes through the main aquarium entrance. It's set far back from the road and you have to deal with crowds. There are no clubs in what I would regard a walkable distance in the heat, especially at night. I think the hassle outweighs the charm.

If you want 4 star quality with a water view and right near the action, you might consider the Bayview Park Hotel. It's girl friendly but still maintains a business class feel. None of your business associates would question why you are staying there. It's a short walk to MBC and just around the corner from a casa. A Starbucks is right next door. Rooms are about 5K but you may be able to find a better deal online.

It's a little off topic, but I'd like to give a shout out to the Bayleaf hotel in the Intramuros. This is not a hotel for a punter working the clubs. In the busy part of the day it's very difficult to get back across to Malate. However, this is a PERFECT place if you are romancing a gf who is staying with you. The rooms are fresh and modern and the service is truly top drawer. There's a rooftop restaurant with view of Intramuros and the golf course, and they have a jazz buffet on the weekend. Intramuros itself is charming and romantic, but very few young filipinas would have ever visited it. The room rate is very low given the quality of the hotel and the service.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I am preparing my next trip to Manila and I am horrified by the hotel prices.

Hyatt is 140 euros +, Dusit 150 euros +, Shangri La Makati is 240 euros +. WTF.

The new hotels such as Raffles and the hotel from the new casino also have very high prices 200 euros ++.

I mean I've always stayed in the past at those hotel (except Shangri La Makati which has always been expensive) for 100 euros or so.

What's the best way to find good hotels deals in MNL these days?Escort Fan,

I don't know what is your budget yes hotel price is very expensive in Manila more than BKK and KL I think, if you go to AGODA or do some RTFF and find out where in Manila you want to stay at Malate is much less than Makati should get something decend for less than 40 Euro a night.

Fast Eddie 48

[Chris Peterson]

Sorry for not including more details and thank you all to responded. I kept it short because I haven't had much luck with replies on ISG in other countries so wanted to keep it short and to the point.

I'll be there the 1st week of June. I have been to Thailand, Colombia, China, and many other places, but never been to the Philippines so don't have any idea what to expect. I'll only be there a week after spending two weeks in China. I don't mind walking or the heat. I'm 32 and hate cold weather.

Yes, they have some seemingly great prices on this hotel. But my travel agent is from Manila (he lives in my hometown in the US and is one of my friend's dads) so I told him I'd let him book my reservations so he can get the commission. It's funny, even though he is my friend's dad, I was like "we need to make sure that the hotel you book for me will have no problem with me bringing a different girlfriend, or even two girlfriends at the same time, back to my room each night." He said "I looked up the room by searching 3 adults, and Manila is my old stomping ground, you just need to find the girls and then eat your heart out, comprende?" I was like ok, cool, let me do a little more research first.

Let me know if anyone else has any other recommendations. I can tell him where I want to stay and he can book it and still get the commission.


It is relatively close to the Ermita bars if you go by taxi. You could walk, but not advised. Especially in April when it is very hot and humid.

You didn't tell us when you are going, nor did you tell us how acceptable you are to 3rd world city hiking. LOL. Last trip, around midnight, I picked up a real gem off Mabini just walking from Luneta park back to my hotel in Malate. This (the midnight walk) is NOT advised for the faint of heart.

H2O is fairly new and sandwiched between the bay and Luneta park. I'm sure you'll have some great views. It's not going to be cheap, but you probably already know that. If you like old world charm you might try the Manila hotel in the same area. It might be cheaper. If you have an aquarium in your room, I guess the gal will spend less time watching tv and checking her phone messages. If you stay there, I hope you can give us a field / trip report (FR) (TR)

Has your agent suggested a price for H2O? Give us more info about your situation. You might get other recommendations and / or info.

I've never stayed there, but I seriously doubt that they would object to a female guest.

Without knowing much about your situation, you might do some research on Diamond Hotel. X Man.

[X Man]

You don't tell us what the "great price" is, but the web site shows 9000 pesos and up. That's a bit high, me thinks.

The bar scene in Ermita is generally freelance. For a first timer I'm thinking you might be better off in Makati where you can go to the go-go bars on Burgos. I also like EDSA Entertainment near the Mall of Asia. Near the bay you can consider the Hyatt, pan pacific, diamond hotels. I don't know much about Makati hotels since I usually stay in the Ermita / Malate area and tend to budget around 3000 for a room.

I also agree with comments by Wazoo. I've stayed at Bayview (and also Miramar) both are on Roxas on the bay and you would be able to walk to restaurants, conv. Stores, money changers, and some of the bars.


Sorry for not including more details and thank you all to responded. I kept it short because I haven't had much luck with replies on ISG in other countries so wanted to keep it short and to the point.

I'll be there the 1st week of June. I have been to Thailand, Colombia, China, and many other places, but never been to the Philippines so don't have any idea what to expect. I'll only be there a week after spending two weeks in China. I don't mind walking or the heat. I'm 32 and hate cold weather.

Yes, they have some seemingly great prices on this hotel. But my travel agent is from Manila (he lives in my hometown in the US and is one of my friend's dads) so I told him I'd let him book my reservations so he can get the commission. It's funny, even though he is my friend's dad, I was like "we need to make sure that the hotel you book for me will have no problem with me bringing a different girlfriend, or even two girlfriends at the same time, back to my room each night." He said "I looked up the room by searching 3 adults, and Manila is my old stomping ground, you just need to find the girls and then eat your heart out, comprende?" I was like ok, cool, let me do a little more research first.

Let me know if anyone else has any other recommendations. I can tell him where I want to stay and he can book it and still get the commission.

[Escort Fan]

Escort Fan,

I don't know what is your budget yes hotel price is very expensive in Manila more than BKK and KL I think, if you go to AGODA or do some RTFF and find out where in Manila you want to stay at Malate is much less than Makati should get something decend for less than 40 Euro a night.

Fast Eddie 48My budget is 100 euros per night. I've always stayed at Pan Pacific, Hyatt, Mandarin Oriental, Sofitel.

And now it seems I'll need to downgrade. Quite a pity.

[Chris Peterson]

Thanks X Man. I'll check out your recs! The price per night I'm getting quoted is $96 us per night, so that would be less than half what you are seeing I think? My guy is saying Ermita is the place to be for history, culture, etc.


You don't tell us what the "great price" is, but the web site shows 9000 pesos and up. That's a bit high, me thinks.

The bar scene in Ermita is generally freelance. For a first timer I'm thinking you might be better off in Makati where you can go to the go-go bars on Burgos. I also like EDSA Entertainment near the Mall of Asia. Near the bay you can consider the Hyatt, pan pacific, diamond hotels. I don't know much about Makati hotels since I usually stay in the Ermita / Malate area and tend to budget around 3000 for a room.

I also agree with comments by Wazoo. I've stayed at Bayview (and also Miramar) both are on Roxas on the bay and you would be able to walk to restaurants, conv. Stores, money changers, and some of the bars.

[Soapy Smith]

My guy is saying Ermita is the place to be for history, culture, etc.Makati, Mall of Asia, or Ortigas for shopping, but City of Manila, especially Ermita, for history and culture. Fort Santiago, Rizal Park, San Augustin Church, etc, for history. As for culture, I have mentioned Zamboanga Restaurant on Adriatico just south of Pedro Gil for music and folk dances from Western Mindanao. I recently visited a place that's better: Barabara's in Intramuros, right across the street from San Augustin Church. Traditional music and folk dances from all over the country. They're college aged kids who have auditioned to join the dance troupe for a year or two. They also have restaurants in Quezon City and at the Orchidarium along Rizal Park, (Save orchidarium for another day) so make sure you go to the Plaza San Luis location. Good idea to make sure when the dance performance goes on and make reservations.

Why this in a mongering forum? For the rare occasion when making an impression is an important part of foreplay.

http://www.barbarasrestaurantandcatering.com/about.html

[Chris Peterson]

Makati, Mall of Asia, or Ortigas for shopping, but City of Manila, especially Ermita, for history and culture. Fort Santiago, Rizal Park, San Augustin Church, etc, for history. As for culture, I have mentioned Zamboanga Restaurant on Adriatico just south of Pedro Gil for music and folk dances from Western Mindanao. I recently visited a place that's better: Barabara's in Intramuros, right across the street from San Augustin Church. Traditional music and folk dances from all over the country. They're college aged kids who have auditioned to join the dance troupe for a year or two. They also have restaurants in Quezon City and at the Orchidarium along Rizal Park, (Save orchidarium for another day) so make sure you go to the Plaza San Luis location. Good idea to make sure when the dance performance goes on and make reservations.

Why this in a mongering forum? For the rare occasion when making an impression is an important part of foreplay.

http://www.barbarasrestaurantandcatering.com/about.htmlThanks for the info skip. To answer your question,"why this in a mongering forum": It's my first time in the PI, I want to see the sights, my travel agent is from Manila and is telling me to stay in Ermita, and even though I've made it clear to him that I want to bang 1, or 2 or even more local working girls at a time, I'm checking with you guys to make sure he doesn't lead me astray (albeit with the best intentions). I'm an experienced "monger", just first time in PI and know you guys know a hell of a lot more about the game in Manila then my Filipino born but currently living in the US with a family travel agent.

[PeeMan]

St. Giles in Makati is usually around $70 on Agoda. Quality hotel, around the corner from Burgos, and I've brought both pros and non-pros there with no trouble. In Ermita I have only stayed at the Best Western La Corona, which was not as good for almost the same price as St. Giles.I almost settled for the Bayleaf superior room for my visit in a few weeks but I think they don't have bath tubs. I want to chill with a sparkling wine and a local contact I made and frolic in the cool water.

St. Giles mentions "long bath with shower" for deluxe rooms. Is that another word for a bath tub?

Whats there around $60 range with a bathtub and Wifi?

Thanks

[Irony Monger]

st. giles mentions "long bath with shower" for deluxe rooms. is that another word for a bath tub?no, that means long bathroom (and it's really not that long). i've stayed at the st. giles twice and don't remember bathtubs, just walk-in showers. unforunately the hard drive that had my pics suffered a gravitational failure (i dropped it) , so can't post the pics. only place i have stayed in makati with a tub was a suite at the dusit thani, but that was definitely over $60 :-)

[Pip Jaeger]

I've stayed at the St. Giles twice and don't remember bathtubs, just walk-in showers.I stayed in a deluxe room at the St. Giles and it had a bathtub / shower combo. Maybe the standard rooms have walk-in showers only?

[Irony Monger]

I stayed in a deluxe room at the St. Giles and it had a bathtub / shower combo. Maybe the standard rooms have walk-in showers only?Hmm. I stayed in one of their corner deluxe rooms and it only had a shower. However, that was 3 years ago.

[Pip Jaeger]

hmm. i stayed in one of their corner deluxe rooms and it only had a shower. however, that was 3 years ago.guess they offer both; didn't appear that any major refurb was done there. perhaps that what they really meant by "long bath with shower", lol. if it's important to a guest, like peeman, to have a bathtub / shower combo then i presume it can requested when booking.

[Tally Wacker]

guess they offer both; didn't appear that any major refurb was done there. perhaps that what they really meant by "long bath with shower", lol. if it's important to a guest, like peeman, to have a bathtub / shower combo then i presume it can requested when booking.the st giles hotel corner rooms have walk-in showers and the rooms along the sides have shower / bathtubs like in the photo. they have a major problem with their plumbing and the water temperature fluctuates constantly during peak times. i don't think they have corrected the problem yet.

[Sammon]

i almost settled for the bayleaf superior room for my visit in a few weeks but i think they don't have bath tubs. i want to chill with a sparkling wine and a local contact i made and frolic in the cool water.

st. giles mentions "long bath with shower" for deluxe rooms. is that another word for a bath tub?

whats there around $60 range with a bathtub and wifi?

thanksbayview park hotel has nice tub with plenty of hot water. price is around $58 / night with two buffett breakfast. book for two peopple, same price.

best rates are on asiatravel. com

[Irony Monger]

The St Giles Hotel corner rooms have walk-in showers and the rooms along the sides have shower / bathtubs like in the photo. They have a major problem with their plumbing and the water temperature fluctuates constantly during peak times. I don't think they have corrected the problem yet.Mystery solved! First time I visited I stayed in a corner room, second time was a regular "superior room". Both had walk in showers. Regarding the water temp, when I stayed there in February they were doing plumbing work and warned that the water would be off in the whole building for about 6 hours on my first night. Fortunately due to jet lag I didn't experience any of that myself, and didn't encounter any hot water problems the next night, so perhaps the problem is fixed?

[PeeMan]

bayview park hotel has nice tub with plenty of hot water. price is around $58 / night with two buffett breakfast. book for two peopple, same price.

best rates are on asiatravel. comthat looks good. is it girl friendly? i might want to pick up a few gals on the days the woman i check in with is not there anymore. quick question. are these booking websites cheaper than booking direct?

peeman

[FreebieFan]

The St Giles Hotel corner rooms have walk-in showers and the rooms along the sides have shower / bathtubs like in the photo. They have a major problem with their plumbing and the water temperature fluctuates constantly during peak times. I don't think they have corrected the problem yet.On the ocassional days when I do a review of the photos that I have taken of CP's (as in "cute pinays not cebu pathetic) on my hard drive, I frequently come across photos that are similar to yours. Girl with shock / happy look combined along with a lame attempt to perhaps cover her breasts with hands, but not quite succeeding. And nipples happily exposed. Makes you wonder why they bother. LOL

[Wicked Roger]

The St Giles Hotel corner rooms have walk-in showers and the rooms along the sides have shower / bathtubs like in the photo. They have a major problem with their plumbing and the water temperature fluctuates constantly during peak times. I don't think they have corrected the problem yet.The bath tubs are big enough for 2 bisexual pinays. I know this from personal research many times LOL

[MarineBoy]

I like staying around Greenbelt so I've booked a week at Hotel Celeste just behind Greenbelt 3 in Makati for later this month.

I've stayed there before but have never bought women back to the rooms. Though they seem to be ok as I've had massages delivered to the room in the past.

Probably over budget for a lot of the posters here but still way cheaper than New World, Shangri-La etc

[Sammon]

that looks good. is it girl friendly? i might want to pick up a few gals on the days the woman i check in with is not there anymore. quick question. are these booking websites cheaper than booking direct?

peemanit is girlfriendly in my experience. one girl is not a problem. if geting more than one better get them in your room before 9 pm. security is very strict.

as far as this hotel ic concerned asiatravel. com has the bst rate. booking direct is always expensive.

[Python75]

It is girlfriendly in my experience. One girl is not a problem. If geting more than one better get them in your room before 9 pm. Security is very strict.

As far as this hotel ic concerned asiatravel. Com has the bst rate. Booking direct is always expensive. I beg to differ. It really does pay to look around. Sometimes using web agencies can be cheaper, sometimes booking directly with the hotel may be cheaper, for example St Giles Hotel in Makati. Swings and roundabouts. I use agoda to source hotels then do a quick comparison with the hotel's own website and a few other web agencies.

[Red Kilt]

. Booking direct is always expensive.Not in my experience Samm.

Whenever I travel within the Phils I always call the hotel direct and ask to speak to the Sales Manager.

I always get a much better price than on any travel website or on the hotel's own website.

It sometimes depends on whether the hotel has a convention and so is relatively busy or whether it is a slow week.

Example: I got a 75% reduction on a 2-night stay at Waterfront Hotel in Cebu late in 2012 by calling direct and asking for their best price.

The Sales Manager was only too happy to accommodate me (Double room with Breakfast)

Of course, throw in "Local Resident Rate" and the deals are obvious.

[Pompolino]

I like staying around Greenbelt so I've booked a week at Hotel Celeste just behind Greenbelt 3 in Makati for later this month.

I've stayed there before but have never bought women back to the rooms. Though they seem to be ok as I've had massages delivered to the room in the past.

Probably over budget for a lot of the posters here but still way cheaper than New World, Shangri-La etcAnd the best breakfast of any hotel I have stayed in Asia. Actually meals are fantastic there. But a bit pricey.

P

[PeeMan]

ok i have one more little requirement. you guys come across any hotel with both a large bathtub to spread two people and also a nice little sea facing balcony that is gf? and within $60? don't flame me about the price, just quote what you've seen.

thanks,

peeman

[PeeMan]

another one that caught my eye for its price is jmm apartment suites. i don't recall this place mentioned in the last many pages of t his thread. i suppose any apartment suite will not have a problem if we bring in guests over. as many as we want?

peeman

[PeeMan]

there is an other area's thread for other places but no thread on hotels in other area's. since manila is the starting point for a trip to puerto galera, i am posting here.

which are the gf hotels in puerto galera and sabang? and which ones have a bath tub and balcony overlooking the sea? budget around $60.

thanks,

peeman

[Chris Peterson]

This will be my last question. I arrive in Manila (1st time) on June 1st. I had been looking into and getting recommendations from membere here about some lovely hotels with Bay Views, etc.

However, someone else said as I first timer, I should stay in Makati, I didn't even realize it had its own thread.

So What's the verdict on a 32 year old good looking well traveled guy to do for his first time in Manila. Ermita or Makati? And please say why you choose your endorsement.

Much thanks.

[Member #4387]

This will be my last question. I arrive in Manila (1st time) on June 1st. I had been looking into and getting recommendations from membere here about some lovely hotels with Bay Views, etc.

However, someone else said as I first timer, I should stay in Makati, I didn't even realize it had its own thread.

So What's the verdict on a 32 year old good looking well traveled guy to do for his first time in Manila. Ermita or Makati? And please say why you choose your endorsement.

Much thanks.Well since I arrive into Manila almost same date as you I will give you my 5 times (soon 6th times) all within one year "expertise" if you don't mind. Bayview you can have from many hotels along the bay (hey what a surprise) you can pretty much just use Agoda search your hotels Malate, Eremita or sth and you get an overview of hotels along the bay. As far as my experience take me and where I did infact have bayview was Boulevard Mansion Hotel (100mts from MBC and 250mts from Robinson mall) , Hyatt and Luxor Suites (above Robinson Mall) but as Agoda will show there are others as well.

Boulevard Mansion is not anything special at all and not Luxor. Hyatt is ofcourse like most other high end hotels. I have no idea what your budget is though. I have also stayed at Riviera Mansion and 1 bedroom suite was good value for money around 3500php but here you have no bayview.

Where to stay I have done some fair combination from only staying in Malate area (a bit raunchy but no problem) , from staying a few days in Malate and a few days in Makati, have also had 2 hotelrooms (one in Makati and 1 in Malate) as traffic is a killer timewice and I hate that to only stay in Makati. Not very surprisingly Makati is a bit more upscale and close to The Fort and has a few good nightclubs as well. For the Bourgos Road and EDSA complex I believe you will have to ask others as I only do Freelancegirls and datingsitegirls.

It is nice to sit at TGI Fridays in Robinson with the Ipad and talk to the girls and get them to meet you while you ship a few drinks.

[Hutsori]

I have also stayed at Riviera Mansion and 1 bedroom suite was good value for money around 3500php but here you have no bayview.For a little bit more one can stay at the Manila Diamond on Roxas. The north side of the hotel has unobstructed view of the bay, Roxas Blvd, US Embassy, etc. Request room be as close to Roxas (west) as possible. Avoid south side of hotel if the view is important. Short walk to Robinson's.

@Chris Peterson - Two or three weeks ago someone posed the same question. Check the Manila, Makati, and Manila Hotel threads. For me the main determiner is where one intends to pull girls. If you're looking for frequent frolics with free lancers then Ermita is your best bet.

[Tally Wacker]

This will be my last question. I arrive in Manila (1st time) on June 1st. I had been looking into and getting recommendations from membere here about some lovely hotels with Bay Views, etc.

However, someone else said as I first timer, I should stay in Makati, I didn't even realize it had its own thread.

So What's the verdict on a 32 year old good looking well traveled guy to do for his first time in Manila. Ermita or Makati? And please say why you choose your endorsement.

Much thanks.Just bring your tally wacker and a little bit of money and have fun! Haha just joking but its almost that simple once you work out how to catch a taxi, where to change your money and how hard you want to work to find girls. If your looking for further suggestions of what to do when you arrive then you should explain what you have already learned by reading the previous threads, what kind of fun your looking for and what your budget is.

Some guys are wealthy and get two hotels with kitchens to eat baguettes with ham and cheese between fucking, some guys don't pay the ISG members fee and use their savings to find low cost pussy in dark neighborhoods and believe it or not some guys miss the plane completely and make their field reports based off of online news articles then string a bunch of words together to attack other members here until they are moderated or banned.

The Philippines has something for everyone but you need to be clear about your expectations.

[Redman69]

Based on your description of yourself I would say Makati.

I am a union electrician. 58, A redneck, and a catholic. Not a good one. I stay emrita or Malate, my kind of area. I have had a street gang try to pick my pocket and kids try to grab the old ladys jewelry. Still have no desire to go to Makati, Just seeing it on the Horizon lets me know it is upscale. I could afford it. But I just ain't upscale. There was a good ideal about doing both. You will be there a week. Do upscale first. Do day time walk about in Malate and see what you think. Hyatt is great upscale hotel. In malate, great location to MBC and Robinson and Amazonia. But right out the door two blocks are a million homeless people living on the street. And a 100, 000 hungry street kids. And lots of cheap pussy. And my embassy, and churchs. So it is my kind of area. Like 20 blocks from the US Capital where I was born and have been working all my life. Had guns pulled on me there. It is part of city life. Have a safe trip. RED

[Chris Peterson]

Redman my man. You're from DC? And a redneck too? I went to college in DC. From what you said, cheap pussy and all, maybe Ermita / Malate is the right choice. If I wanted upscale and expensive, I could just hang out in Vegas, or M street and Wisconsin. How are you a redneck if you grew up 20 blocks from the capital? I could see if you were from MD / VA maybe. Anyway, LOL, thanks for the response.


Based on your description of yourself I would say Makati.

I am a union electrician. 58, A redneck, and a catholic. Not a good one. I stay emrita or Malate, my kind of area. I have had a street gang try to pick my pocket and kids try to grab the old ladys jewelry. Still have no desire to go to Makati, Just seeing it on the Horizon lets me know it is upscale. I could afford it. But I just ain't upscale. There was a good ideal about doing both. You will be there a week. Do upscale first. Do day time walk about in Malate and see what you think. Hyatt is great upscale hotel. In malate, great location to MBC and Robinson and Amazonia. But right out the door two blocks are a million homeless people living on the street. And a 100, 000 hungry street kids. And lots of cheap pussy. And my embassy, and churchs. So it is my kind of area. Like 20 blocks from the US Capital where I was born and have been working all my life. Had guns pulled on me there. It is part of city life. Have a safe trip. RED

[Redman69]

And my Ma was born there also, and My dad raised there. We did move to Alexandria when I was 4, So you know where the Armory and RFK is. It is a good area out to about 12th st. NE. Now. But my uncle was a Lt. On the DC police force. I was in the back of a squad car and they asked if I had family on the force. They called my Uncle. He was screaming about locking me up and I was a pox on the family. This young un pulled over and let me loose. I said didn't you hear what my uncle said? They said he sure was my uncle and told me to move on. When I was a kid it was still the sleepy little town. Not now! But it is my home. I still do service calls where ever people will pay. Ain't nobody going to tell me I can not earning a living in my birth place. My X Philipina wife got a degree from Howard as a dental Hygienist. I was worried you would not understand what I was saying. I went to London. I like Paddington, and not Earls court. In rome I like old town around the Spanish steps and Albania girls. oh, yea I was born at Columbia Hospital for women. andBut worked at DC general, Marine Barracks, National captitol housing, My great Aunts lived on H st NE before the riots. I scapped and painted the 11 th st and south Capital st. bridges working summers for My Dad. Also Barry farms. DC government use to be at 6th and H NW. I got my licenses there and permits for years until they moved. Now the hall use to be on Kansas ave NW, but they moved that to Maryland. Road the Trolly with my great Aunt. Now she was from NW and came down from Penn. switch board operator for bell atlantic for 42 years. But most of this happened before you were born. But yea stay in the Hyatt in Malate and have the best of both.

[Pip Jaeger]

Redman my man. You're from DC? And a redneck too? How are you a redneck if you grew up 20 blocks from the capital? I could see if you were from MD / VA maybe. Anyway, LOL, thanks for the response.DC is south of the Mason-Dixon line, so that technically makes it a southern city. For those unfamiliar with what I mean, the Mason. Dixon line was what was commonly referred to as the dividing line between the Northern and Southern states during the American Civil War; as well as the boundary between slavery and freedom. Although in reality it predates that period by 100 years. It was created in 1763 to settle an already 80 year old property dispute between Pennsylvania and Maryland landowners.

IMHO whether someone is a redneck or not is more of a state of mind as opposed to a zip code. However, being from the land of where the "homes are mobile and the cars ain't" there's no question to my roots, but I prefer to be called a Florida Cracker. My family origin extends back here over 5 generations.


This will be my last question. I arrive in Manila (1st time) on June 1st. So What's the verdict on a 32 year old good looking well traveled guy to do for his first time in Manila. Ermita or Makati?Chris, if you haven't already made your decision, I'd opt for Ermita. I've stayed mainly in Makati, but next time I think I'll stay in Ermita. Based on what I've read here I think you'll find more freelance action in and around Robinson's and of course at the MBC. If you have the time I would at least take a ride to Makati / Burgos St area to check it out. And conversely if you stay in Makati then take trip to Ermita / MBC area. For the DIA / FC girls I don't think it makes a hellava lot of difference; if the girl really wants to see you then she'll make the trip. But take into consideration that she'll probably want to spend the night and that you'll have to pony up a little more for transport costs as well as add to the wait time. Once you've decided where you're staying you can naturally focus or even limit your search to the areas closer to your hotel.

[Chris Peterson]

Red and Pip, thanks so much for the advice. And hey, forget the Mason Dixon line, there are rednecks everywhere, I've encountered rednecks in New Jersey.

[PeeMan]

i've got to meet this young little number who is on house curfew so she can only steal some time until evening with me. most of the hotels discussed here are around makati, edsa. i would like some recommendations for a nice clean short time hotel around quezon, fairview.

anyone?

thanks.

-peeman

[Asian Rain]

i've got to meet this young little number who is on house curfew so she can only steal some time until evening with me. most of the hotels discussed here are around makati, edsa. i would like some recommendations for a nice clean short time hotel around quezon, fairview.google "sogo near quezon city". then use the google maps to find your convenient location. don't forget to ask for a discount card. other option is to google "victoria court" or "eurotel". i have used two eurotel locations and three sogo locations. expect to pay circa php500 (discount card rate) for 3-4 hours use of an aircon room. enjoy the philippines, asianrain

[Red Kilt]

Google "Sogo near quezon city". Then use the Google Maps to find your convenient location. Don't forget to ask for a discount card. Other option is to Google "Victoria Court" or "Eurotel". I have used two Eurotel locations and three Sogo locations. Expect to pay circa PHP500 (discount card rate) for 3-4 hours use of an aircon room. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRainThe closest SOGO to Fairview is probably opposite Trinoma Mall and near to SM North Edsa Mall at the northern end of EDSA. Nice and easy to meet in the mall and walk a short distance through the MRT and straight into the G Floor door.

There is a Eurotel a hundred meters further north too and much further to walk.

All the other Sogos and Eurotels are a 30 min taxi ride away in Cubao, or the short term hotels in San Juan.

[Hotman 666]

Hi Guys,

I am making my FIRST trip to Philippines shortly (Manila.)

My local business contact has suggested one of the following hotels.

The Heritage Hotel Manila

MIDAS Hotel Manila.

Microtel Mall of Asia.

The Heritage looks good but I thought that I should check that the location is OK with the local ISG experts.

I would appreciate your advice.

Hotman (a Philippines VIRGIN!)

[Hutsori]

Hi Guys,

I am making my FIRST trip to Philippines shortly (Manila.)

My local business contact has suggested one of the following hotels.

The Heritage Hotel Manila

MIDAS Hotel Manila.

Microtel Mall of Asia.

The Heritage looks good but I thought that I should check that the location is OK with the local ISG experts.

I would appreciate your advice.

Hotman (a Philippines VIRGIN!) We'll be better able to help if you can provide the following: 1) your hotel and "date" budget, respectively 2) whether you have already lined up girls from dating sites (where do they live?) .3) your preference, if any, of freelancers or barfined girls. 4) your comfort staying in a rundown area (Ermita / Malate) , and 5) your length of stay. If you are here for business then you ought to stay somewhat near the location where you'll be doing so as morning / evening rush-hour traffic very much sucks. I would recommend reading the most recent 20 pages of Manila and Makati threads. The general info and the dating / chat room threads are also worth a read.

Anyway, of the three hotels you listed The Heritage is across the street from the EDSA Entertainment Complex, a spot of several go-go type bars where the girls are barfined. The Microtel is too far removed from anything but mall wandering and the sunset. The Midas (on Roxas Blvd) is roughly halfway between EDSA and Ermita, where there are freelancers at MBC, Amazonia, and G Point bars and Robinson's Mall.

If you're here for a 3-5 day all-play stay, I. E. No business meetings, you may want to consider Angeles.

[Hotman 666]

Thanks Hudsori,

I appreciate your help.

This will be a 5 day business trip and I will only have the evenings free so no chance to get to Angeles. I do like freelancers but also enjoy bar girls some evenings.

I have a couple of 'Freebees' lined up but location is not a problem for them (they are both able to travel!)

It looks as if, from the three hotels that my business partners suggest as being in a convenient location to THEM that my best choice may be The Heritage Hotel, unless anyone has a better suggestion!

Hotel costs are not a major problem. Something around US$150 / day would be just fine.

Hotman.

[Irony Monger]

The Heritage looks good but I thought that I should check that the location is OK with the local ISG experts.I've stayed at the Heritage twice, last time was in Dec 2011. The location is good in that it is right across the street from the EDSA Entertainment Complex which is full of girly bars, a few blocks from the SM Mall of Asia, and also reasonably close to the airport. On the down side, it is outdated and a bit musty in my opinion. The water temperature in the showers is nearly impossible to get right; you either get freezing cold or scalding hot until you spend 5 minutes playing around with the knob (the shower's, not yours). Maybe that has been fixed by now. If you like Casinos (I don't), the hotel has one. Also, definitely pass on the breakfast buffet downstairs if not included with your room, it was incredibly overpriced when purchased separately.

All that said, I would consider staying there again if I saw a good deal on Agoda, but I wouldn't pay full price. Right now I see deluxe rooms for about $85 USD breakfast included. I've seen better deals, but this is certainly in your price range, and if someone else is footing the bill then who cares anyway.

One last thing. Getting from the Heritage to EDSA can be a pain, even though it is across the street. If I remember right there is a barrier in the middle of the street so you can't just dodge traffic and run across. There is a pedestrian bridge not too far away, but it is really sketchy. I walked it once and was hit up for change about every 10 feet. The girl I brought back later refused to cross that way claiming it wasn't safe, that we were likely to be assaulted, and insisted we take a cab instead. Just an FYI.

[Hutsori]

Thanks Hudsori,

I appreciate your help.

This will be a 5 day business trip and I will only have the evenings free so no chance to get to Angeles. I do like freelancers but also enjoy bar girls some evenings.

I have a couple of 'Freebees' lined up but location is not a problem for them (they are both able to travel!)

It looks as if, from the three hotels that my business partners suggest as being in a convenient location to THEM that my best choice may be The Heritage Hotel, unless anyone has a better suggestion!

Hotel costs are not a major problem. Something around US$150 / day would be just fine.

Hotman.You're welcome. Since your business partner recommended hotels in Pasay I'll surmise that the office (s) where you'll be meeting is / are near. Irony Monger's report is a good one; musty rooms, scalding / freezing shower temp fluctuations, and much of the advantage being across the street from EDSA Complex is lost so you still have to take a cab are demerits. A quick check of guest reviews show the Midas much higher ranked than the Heritage. I'd go with Midas for the reasons IR mentions and the in-room wifi is free. Note:the Midas is much closer to EDSA than Ermita. Another option is the Trader's Hotel which is also highly rated and roughly midway between EDSA Complex and Ermita.

[X Man]

One of the hotels on Hotman's list is Microtel.

http://www.microtelbywyndham-manila.com/ppc/?gclid=CNiG9urVmbcCFUhJpgodv3QAQw

Has anyone stayed there? It looks as if it is right next to Mall of Asia. Can you walk over or is there some kind of wall forcing a walk around. The web site shows a pitafully small rooftop pool.

I can also see the Metrostar ferry from which you can take a bay cruise or go to Cavite.

This looks really interesting. X

[FreebieFan]

one last thing. getting from the heritage to edsa can be a pain, even though it is across the street. if i remember right there is a barrier in the middle of the street so you can't just dodge traffic and run across. there is a pedestrian bridge not too far away, but it is really sketchy. i walked it once and was hit up for change about every 10 feet. the girl i brought back later refused to cross that way claiming it wasn't safe, that we were likely to be assaulted, and insisted we take a cab instead. just an fyi.every beggar kid in the area comes out to play after 7pm. they flood the area by the bridge and any whiteboy thinking of crossing from heritage needs to stuff his valuables deep into his pockets and place his hands in pockets just as deep. then he needs to walk very fast.

beggar boys can't walk so fast (you ever see a filipino walk fast. saunter is about their max speed0 so they soon lose interest when you see you are in your serious striding mode. but won't stop them trying to get a handout or a "hand-in" as you zoom by.

[Jp Slicky]

It may be a dumb question but is the Tune in Ermita Girl Friendly?

Does anyone have any experience staying here?

IF so, could you give me a few Tidbits on the place.

Thanks

[ElRayo55]

It may be a dumb question but is the Tune in Ermita Girl Friendly?

Does anyone have any experience staying here?

IF so, could you give me a few Tidbits on the place.

ThanksI was there in March clean small room so small it was hard me to find space for my suitcase no telephone no problem bringing girls in they card the women all my girls were carded but no problem there is a 7-11 in front and a restaurant everyone wil be seeing who you bring if you mind I was shy before but not anymore It was very cheap but the room was to small for me too small I probaly got the standard room but I was going economical and it was sure econimcal don't worry very girl friendly!

[Red Kilt]

One of the hotels on Hotman's list is Microtel.

http://www.microtelbywyndham-manila.com/ppc/?gclid=CNiG9urVmbcCFUhJpgodv3QAQw

Has anyone stayed there? It looks as if it is right next to Mall of Asia. Can you walk over or is there some kind of wall forcing a walk around.It's absolutely right next door. Cross one road XM. A good location.

I might pop in and have a look around when I am next in MOA and report on what I see.

[WhatsUrName]

I was walking past MBC the other day and noticed a new hotel right next door to the MBC on Del Pilar. And when I say right next door, I really mean right next door. The name is the Brickstone Hotel.

They had a big placard on the street with pictures of the rooms. It caught my attention so I asked to see a room. The rooms are actually suites and quite nice for 1600 PHP a night. Each suite had two Air Conditioning units. The desk clerk told me the hotel was new, and that they did not have a website up yet.

I can't recommend it for a week long stay since I have not stayed there yet, but it may be a great option for an overnighter on their way to other PH destinations, or for the Makati based fellow who would like a better option than Sogo for your Ermita visit.

Its hard to beat for location (the entrance to the hotel is about 90 feet from the entrance to MBC). At 1600 PHP a night, it is definitely worth checking out for a night. Unfortunately, I didn't notice it until the last day of my recent stay in the Phils.

[X Man]

This is a good report from a relatively low profile member. Thanks! Thanks for including a phone number. I might not agree that it's "hard to beat location", but I might just take a look next time I'm slumming around in Ermita. X.


I was walking past MBC the other day and noticed a new hotel right next door to the MBC on Del Pilar. And when I say right next door, I really mean right next door. The name is the Brickstone Hotel.

They had a big placard on the street with pictures of the rooms. It caught my attention so I asked to see a room. The rooms are actually suites and quite nice for 1600 PHP a night. Each suite had two Air Conditioning units. The desk clerk told me the hotel was new, and that they did not have a website up yet.

I can't recommend it for a week long stay since I have not stayed there yet, but it may be a great option for an overnighter on their way to other PH destinations, or for the Makati based fellow who would like a better option than Sogo for your Ermita visit.

Its hard to beat for location (the entrance to the hotel is about 90 feet from the entrance to MBC). At 1600 PHP a night, it is definitely worth checking out for a night. Unfortunately, I didn't notice it until the last day of my recent stay in the Phils.

[Surfer]

Convenient to MBC but one of the worst reads anywhere in the tourist belt to stay. Even 3 blocks North on Del Pilar, the Best Western La Corona, is a much better area and cost not much more (about $50 or 2000P on Agoda). Taxis are cheap enough, just NEVER take one waiting outside MBC (always flag one down passing by on the street).

[Ttriumph48]

Convenient to MBC but one of the worst reads anywhere in the tourist belt to stay. Even 3 blocks North on Del Pilar, the Best Western La Corona, is a much better area and cost not much more (about $50 or 2000P on Agoda). Taxis are cheap enough, just NEVER take one waiting outside MBC (always flag one down passing by on the street).All very true. I once left with my new friend from the MBC and entered a "tourist" taxi. The driver stated that he was providing a civic surface. At the end of the ride he tried to charge me quadruple the regular fare. I gave him the going rate of 40p and off I went.

[Chris Peterson]

I just read a post in the Manila section from a newbie's FR saying he stayed at BW La Corona, and he says it is not GF. Can that be possible? I'm checking in there Sarurday.


Convenient to MBC but one of the worst reads anywhere in the tourist belt to stay. Even 3 blocks North on Del Pilar, the Best Western La Corona, is a much better area and cost not much more (about $50 or 2000P on Agoda). Taxis are cheap enough, just NEVER take one waiting outside MBC (always flag one down passing by on the street).

[GoodEnough]

Having just signed a contract with this hotel, which has offered my company excellent rate, I'm now staying there for the first time. It's a beautiful place and so far, the service seems excellent. It's also, I'm assured by friends, GF, though I imagine that taking someone to breakfast here could prove costly.

I didn't think there was another hotel that I would enjoy as much as the Shangri-La, but I was mistaken. This place appears to have left no stone unturned and I'm quite impressed so far.

GE

[FreebieFan]

I just read a post in the Manila section from a newbie's FR saying he stayed at BW La Corona, and he says it is not GF. Can that be possible? I'm checking in there Sarurday.Its Manila. Everything is GF. You walk in with the honey / s of your choice with that look that says "don't mess". The guy hesitantly does his " Errm Err Sir. At which time you are either in the elevator, or you confront him and say "why are stopping my fiance / s and I " then March.

If he does more of his "errm Err Sir." you tell him to call his GM now, or else you are leaving.

If GM arrives you tell him the behaviour of his staf has been totally degrading and downright defamatory and you are considering legal action. Advise there wil be a Trip advisor reports right now on his lousy hotel and you will continue to post negative reports till his hotel is rated number 2000th out of 2000.

Tell him its his choice. Etcetc. The bolder you are, the less anyone will stop you in the future. You have this Do Not Touch / do not Talk to aura for the remainder of your stay.

[Hutsori]

I haven't seen it mentioned here so I'll do so. If you're looking for an alternative to a hotel or serviced residence check out airbnb (dot) com. You can find 1-2 BR condos in desirable metro Manila locations for p2000 to p3000 per night. There are studios at p1000+ too. Nightly, weekly, and monthly rates are available. Minimum stays vary, so read the deets of each place. The places are fully furnished and may have kitchens, cable, Internet, pools, in-unit safes, laundry machine, and even towels and toiletries. In same cases the units and landlord are reviewed by previous tenants. In addition to the lower cost compared to hotels, I think staying in condo gives you a leg up when pulling regular girls from dating sites because you won't appear to be a short-stay tourist. Unless of course your gambit is to appear to be a short-term visitor, in which case... ignore the previous sentence. I've looked at a couple dozen of the 600+ properties available and I'm impressed by what's on offer. A good value.

[Bob Bowie]

I haven't seen it mentioned here so I'll do so. If you're looking for an alternative to a hotel or serviced residence check out airbnb (dot) com. You can find 1-2 BR condos in desirable metro Manila locations for p2000 to p3000 per night. There are studios at p1000+ too. Nightly, weekly, and monthly rates are available.I have always had good luck with those condos. The number of condos available have really increased in the last couple of years. It is a win-win situation for owner and the renter. The expat or OFW gets some easy cash for his empty apartment and the renter can occupy a large condo for a good price. The only issue for me is the normal 3 day minimum stay, I like the flexibility of a hotel when I am not sure of my plans.

P. S. Stay away from Craig's List, it's full of scammers.

[Hutsori]

The only issue for me is the normal 3 day minimum stay, I like the flexibility of a hotel when I am not sure of my plans.One can always contact the landlord and ask whether the minimum stay can be adjusted.


P. S. Stay away from Craig's List, it's full of scammers.Good point if you're not in town. I found my condo on CL but did so after I arrived in Makati, which allowed me to meet the prospective landlords, see the places, and make sure it was legit.

[Red Kilt]

I haven't seen it mentioned here so I'll do so. If you're looking for an alternative to a hotel or serviced residence check out airbnb (dot) com. You can find 1-2 BR condos in desirable metro Manila locations for p2000 to p3000 per night. There are studios at p1000+ too. Nightly, weekly, and monthly rates are available. Minimum stays vary, so read the deets of each place. The places are fully furnished and may have kitchens, cable, Internet, pools, in-unit safes, laundry machine, and even towels and toiletries. In same cases the units and landlord are reviewed by previous tenants. In addition to the lower cost compared to hotels, I think staying in condo gives you a leg up when pulling regular girls from dating sites because you won't appear to be a short-stay tourist. Unless of course your gambit is to appear to be a short-term visitor, in which case. ignore the previous sentence. I've looked at a couple dozen of the 600+ properties available and I'm impressed by what's on offer. A good value.I have tried to use airbnb in a few places (mostly when I returned to Australia for a few weeks of holiday) and found that EVERY one of the properties that I desired were unavailable on the dates I wanted. The good ones are very popular, and booked months in advance. It seems Hutsori is speculating about airbnb - it is not easy to actually meet the owners of the properties. They use this agency (airbnb) so that they don't need to interract with the tenants, and there are usually numerous layers in between you and the actual property owner.

I actually looked at one of them in Sydney (being cleaned in between bookings) and was dismayed to see that the photos grossly exaggerated the quality of the property. It's a bit like the promo photos of hotels (lobby, bedrooms etc) that you see on websites and when you arrive the reality is always a disappointment.

I would be very wary of paying upfront for an apartment in Manila unless I had seen it in advance, whether Airbnb or anything else.

Lots of scams here.

If Bob Bowie (on another post) has actually USED airbnb then please let us know your full experience. Maybe you are not as fussy as I am regarding facilities and quality control, but I don't know your preferences.

[Hutsori]

I have tried to use airbnb in a few places (mostly when I returned to Australia for a few weeks of holiday) and found that EVERY one of the properties that I desired were unavailable on the dates I wanted.Thanks for sharing your experience about... Australia.

Through airbnb I found two places for friends who were here for short stays of 7 and 9 days. In both cases they stayed at Belton Place on Yakal St in Makati. The condos were quite nicely furnished and clean, certainly nicer than a similarly priced hotel. Moreover the building has a pool; do many p2000 hotels in Makati have that? Your comment that desirable places tend to be unavailable when you want them is profoundly perspicuous; coincidentally I've seen the same for restaurants, hotels, resorts, airline seats, and all sorts of other things and places. Even women. I wonder whether others have had the same life experiences?

Airbnb does allow you a 24-hour period after check-in, giving you the opportunity to see the accommodations and make sure they're as advertised. Like you one may have a bad experience of course, but as you stated even hotels may use deceptively enticing photos. As tripadvisor does with its guest reviews airbnb provides the same reports, but not all properties are reviewed. Do guest reports guarantee a perfect place? No. But it helps lessen the uncertainly and may even mitigate the risk. Of course if one demands assurance of picture perfect there's the Shangri La and the like. It'll cost you a bit more though.

[Red Kilt]

Through airbnb I found two places for friends who were here for short stays of 7 and 9 days. In both cases they stayed at Belton Place on Yakal St in Makati. The condos were quite nicely furnished and clean, certainly nicer than a similarly priced hotel. Moreover the building has a pool; do many p2000 hotels in Makati have that? That's a much clearer and informative update H.

Your original post had "may" and "might" and "could" so I wrongly assumed you were not speaking from such experience.

No doubt that this option is a good one if the desired properties are available. The place in Yakal street sounds very nice, especially if security is also reliable.

[Hutsori]

Your original post had "may" and "might" and "could" so I wrongly assumed you were not speaking from such experience.Hmmm... let's check the verity of your comment. Number of times I used "could": Zero. Number of times I used "might": Zero. Number of times I used "may": Once. Used here: "The places are fully furnished and may have kitchens, cable, Internet, pools, in-unit safes, laundry machine, and even towels and toiletries." Since each place has its own specifics I'm sure "may" fits just perfectly. Certainly "certainly" doesn't fit, don't cha think?

Conclusion: When you make an assumption, you make a really, really wild one. All by yourself; didn't need my words as the catalyst.

I've only seen 2 of 650+ places, i.e. approx. 0.030% of the the total, and viewed two dozen or so online, i.e. 0.036%. I think "may","might" and "could", if I had used them as you imagined, are nonetheless appropriate. I think you failed to comprehend my original report was about airbnb, an accommodation portal, rather than the specific units on offer.


The place in Yakal street sounds very nice, especially if security is also reliable.Typical condo set up with guards at building entrance and parking garage and CCTV. Is it reliable? Only as reliable as you believe it to be. The building itself is very new, but I selected it because of availability, value and being just a stone's throw from my place.

[Red Kilt]

Conclusion: When you make an assumption, you make a really, really wild one. All by yourself; didn't need my words as the catalyst.Whatever.

If you feel better intellectually showing up my considerable flaws then that's OK. I guess after living here for 16 years my brain is starting to fade and it shows in my perceptions.

Anyway. I noticed a posting of special packages on Asiatravel. com that listed Casa Bocobo on the corner of J. Bocobo St. & T. M. Kalaw Ave, Ermita, Manila, Philippines at 1586 php per night for 2 persons (the promo says 1103 php but the price is listed as 1586 so maybe there is a discount as well)

I was past there today and took a look. It seems a pleasant enough property, and might interest some budget traveller who wants to use the Swagman bus to AC but doesn't want to stay in Swagman. It's not too far away from there.

[Member #4387]

Having just signed a contract with this hotel, which has offered my company excellent rate, I'm now staying there for the first time. It's a beautiful place and so far, the service seems excellent. It's also, I'm assured by friends, GF, though I imagine that taking someone to breakfast here could prove costly.

I didn't think there was another hotel that I would enjoy as much as the Shangri-La, but I was mistaken. This place appears to have left no stone unturned and I'm quite impressed so far.

GEI understand probably that you are not the one signing contracts with hotels but I prefer, very much when I contact hotels I know I am going to stay at numerous of times, the hotel to be more like a "home away from home". Believe me I have looked at both Fairmont and Raffles (this Shangribullshit in Makati I don't like. Yes I am designated memeber) but so far nothing beats having a quite large apartment away from home. I hate the more expensive a hotel is the more people stand around you helping you with almost everything but walking. Ascott Makati serves me well in the Makatis. If you bring 1 or 3 girls no one blink an eye and all fun for only 7 to 12K's PHP a night.

I guess your company have great rates but would you not like the freedom. Expensive hotels provides no freedom. Good luck

[Hutsori]

Whatever.

If you feel better intellectually showing up my considerable flaws then that's OK. I guess after living here for 16 years my brain is starting to fade and it shows in my perceptions.Oh don't be so disingenuous. You toss out a smarty-pants accusation, back it up with easily-debunked lies, and when it so completely blows up in your face even you realize you don't have a leg to stand on fall you back on the passive-aggressive teenage cop out of "whatever". You could have manned up and simply said,"I stand corrected. I shouldn't have blamed words you didn't write for my making a wrong conclusion. Sorry." I often read comments here that put down Filipinos for their inability to admit a mistake. It's evident to me, and I surmise others reading this exchange, the Filipinos aren't the only ones guilty of this.

[Irony Monger]

I just read a post in the Manila section from a newbie's FR saying he stayed at BW La Corona, and he says it is not GF. Can that be possible? I'm checking in there Sarurday.It is absolutely GF. Whoever wrote that it is not GF is mistaken.

That said, in any hotel you might find some self-rightous employee who assigns themself the role of morality police. See other comments here about what to do with those folks. However, usually I just tip the doorman a few pesos as I walk in with a couple girls and magically all obstructions melt away.

[CaliPro]

What would you guys suggest as the best budget option in Manila.

Looking for the best deal between 700-1, 000 pesos.

Already did a search and compiled a decent list but its always good to get fresh and new opinions.

BTW if your in Cebu I made a very extensive list of budget options. Check it out if your in Cebu!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3160-Cebu-Hotels&p=1430052&viewfull=1#post1430052

[Hutsori]

What would you guys suggest as the best budget option in Manila.

Looking for the best deal between 700-1,000 pesos.Malate Pension in Adriatico near Remedios comes to mind. And the Tropical Mansion Hotel in Bocobo Street. I've walked by other cheap pensions in the area but don't recall the names.

This guy compiled a list, http://biyahero.net/component/option,com_arkicentralproducts/Itemid,88/arkicentralproductsId,86/arkicentralproductsTask,arkicentralproductsDetails/catid,38/ . Unfortunately he doesn't provide the rates; nonetheless it's a starting place and ought to serve your purpose well.

This place on his list is most probably girlfriend unfriendly, Pope Pius XII Catholic Center. But I would not be surprised to learn I'm wrong.

For those looking for condos, in addition to airbnb check out roomrent (dot) ph. A decent resource for those longer-stay visitors who have time to take a look at places and meet the landlord / property manager.

[Fast Eddie 48]

What would you guys suggest as the best budget option in Manila.

Looking for the best deal between 700-1, 000 pesos.

Already did a search and compiled a decent list but its always good to get fresh and new opinions.

BTW if your in Cebu I made a very extensive list of budget options. Check it out if your in Cebu!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3160-Cebu-Hotels&p=1430052&viewfull=1#post1430052CaliPro,

Hotel in Manila cost much more than Cebu twice as much you don't get any thing decend for less that 1500 p, you can stay in dump like Sogo and that about it.

Fast Eddie 48

[Wjmpsr]

I need to catch a early flight from Manila international airport. Due to the departure time I need to fly in the day before from davao. I have stayed in the past in Ermita. Any recommendations for something closer to the airport? The last time out a cab driver took me to a place that did not accept credit cards.

[Soapy Smith]

I need to catch a early flight from Manila international airport. Due to the departure time I need to fly in the day before from davao. I have stayed in the past in Ermita. Any recommendations for something closer to the airport? The last time out a cab driver took me to a place that did not accept credit cards.Manila Airport Inn is within walking distance of Terminals 1 and 2. Girl friendly but many rooms have two twin beds. Rooms and bathrooms are clean and comfortable. They do take credit cards. If you do not find them on Agoda or other Asian-oriented hotel sites, they have their own website. I have reserved through their website, gotten email confirmation and never had a problem.

[X Man]

Skip has already replied about the hotel that is right THERE at the airport.

If you have a day to kill, consider the Microtel next to Mall of asia. I haven't been there but I've been thinking this would be a good choice. It's right next to the mall, on the waterfront, in between Makati and Ermita, stone's throw from the wonderful EDSA complex, and an easy taxi ride to the airport.

You don't say how early your flight is, but before 7am there won't be much traffic even from Ermita. X.


I need to catch a early flight from Manila international airport. Due to the departure time I need to fly in the day before from davao. I have stayed in the past in Ermita. Any recommendations for something closer to the airport? The last time out a cab driver took me to a place that did not accept credit cards.

[Hutsori]

I need to catch a early flight from Manila international airport. Due to the departure time I need to fly in the day before from davao. I have stayed in the past in Ermita. Any recommendations for something closer to the airport? The last time out a cab driver took me to a place that did not accept credit cards.You can also look at the Resorts World Complex, which is across the street from Terminal 3. In addition to the casino and hotels (Maxims, Marriott and Remington) , there's a movie theatre, a performing arts theatre (musicals) , plenty of restaurants, two very popular nightclubs (Republiq and Opus), and the shops stay open 'til midnight. The casino's Bar 360 has very good Filipino entertainers and on the weekend there's a corny 90-minute Spectacle Variétés Internationale performed by big-fake-smiling Russians that's over the top. No entrance charge to the casino and its entertainment, and drink prices are reasonable. If you join RW's free membership you get discounts at some bars, restos, and the Marriott plus there's a free shuttle bus service to places all over metro Manila including all three NAIA terminals.

MoA is a good recommendation too if you like mall wandering. Theaters, restaurants, bowling, billiards, etc. Most restos in the mall close around 9. Restos and bars across the street along Manila Bay are open 'til late. On weekends the bay walk is packed with those for a day of fun and the sunset. Near MoA is an entertainment complex named "Blue Wave".

[Gajith]

I can't recommend it for a week long stay since I have not stayed there yet, but it may be a great option for an overnighter on their way to other PH destinations, or for the Makati based fellow who would like a better option than Sogo for your Ermita visit.Hi WhatsUrName.

Thanks for this info, I was actually jumping from pages to pages to find a suitable accommodation for couple of nights. I just called them on the number and asked for 2 nights (I will call them again to confirm the deal after understanding the guest friendly policy). The rates are 1600 / day and 30 K / month. I have only 6 nights but need to split 2 nights each at AC, Manila & Cebu. For AC I almost decided Kokomos (Please advise if any better options in 50 USD range). Cebu I need to still dig agoda / hotels. Com.

Thanks / G

[Wicked Roger]

Hi WhatsUrName.

Cebu I need to still dig agoda / hotels. Com.

Thanks / GLook on the Cebu hotels thread and there is a lot of good information there.

[Ttriumph48]

I need to catch a early flight from Manila international airport. Due to the departure time I need to fly in the day before from davao. I have stayed in the past in Ermita. Any recommendations for something closer to the airport? The last time out a cab driver took me to a place that did not accept credit cards.I caught an early flight last Sundayat0630 from the Greenhills Elan Hotel located in the San Juan district (nest to the Greenhills Mall). Took 20 minuets! Fare 220p. Now that is the way it should be.

[Ttriumph48]

Hi WhatsUrName.

Thanks for this info, I was actually jumping from pages to pages to find a suitable accommodation for couple of nights. I just called them on the number and asked for 2 nights (I will call them again to confirm the deal after understanding the guest friendly policy). The rates are 1600 / day and 30 K / month. I have only 6 nights but need to split 2 nights each at AC, Manila & Cebu. For AC I almost decided Kokomos (Please advise if any better options in 50 USD range). Cebu I need to still dig agoda / hotels. Com.

Thanks / GAs for AC, the Sea Breeze Hotel or the Orchid Inn Resort are both in your budget. Both have nice pools and most importantly are girlfriend friendly. Locations are good for your limited time there.

[Gajith]

As for AC, the Sea Breeze Hotel or the Orchid Inn Resort are both in your budget. Both have nice pools and most importantly are girlfriend friendly. Locations are good for your limited time there.Thanks Ttriumph48! U mean Pacific Breeze? Both Breeze & Orchid inn not available. Booked Kokomos for 134 SGD for 2 nights. And for Cebu, booked cuartohotels at 3200 P for 2 nights (for 2 people, I asked if I can bring 3rd and the answer is yes without any joining fee). Will be booking brickstone hotel suit room for 3200 P (2 nights) tomorrow; I didn't opt for breakfast because I sleep until 12 pm normally :P

[Ttriumph48]

I caught an early flight last Sundayat0630 from the Greenhills Elan Hotel located in the San Juan district (nest to the Greenhills Mall). Took 20 minuets! Fare 220p. Now that is the way it should be.I caught an early flight last Sunday 0930 with PAL. From the Greenhills Elan Hotel located in the San Juan district (next to the Greenhills Mall). Sundayat0630. Fare=220p, time to airport=20 mins. Now, that is the way it should be!

[Ttriumph48]

Thanks Ttriumph48! U mean Pacific Breeze? Both Breeze & Orchid inn not available. Booked Kokomos for 134 SGD for 2 nights. And for Cebu, booked cuartohotels at 3200 P for 2 nights (for 2 people, I asked if I can bring 3rd and the answer is yes without any joining fee). Will be booking brickstone hotel suit room for 3200 P (2 nights) tomorrow; I didn't opt for breakfast because I sleep until 12 pm normally :PYes Pacific Breeze. Still suffering from jet lag. Have a great time. I wish I was there now!

[WestCoast1]

A member recently stayed at the Pearl Lane in Malate (M Orosa, corner Malvar streets). He said the hotel blocked any attempt to get at ISG. He had to use a VPN to get around it.

[Hotman 666]

Hi Guys,

I am making my FIRST trip to Philippines shortly (Manila.)

My local business contact has suggested one of the following hotels.

The Heritage Hotel Manila

MIDAS Hotel Manila.

Microtel Mall of Asia.

The Heritage looks good but I thought that I should check that the location is OK with the local ISG experts.

I would appreciate your advice.

Hotman (a Philippines VIRGIN!) Hi Guys,

I have just returned from a week in Manila staying at the Heritage Hotel.

Quite a NICE hotel, I booked a Club room (Double) with a 2 mtr wide bed and a comfy sofa for some 'foreplay. '

On my first night I met an 'early 30's' girl that I had contacted me after my post on Craigslist and I had exchanged emails with for a couple of weeks.

WOW! She was great! She had a wonderful body and a really nice personality. She was also very intelligent and able to make conversation on any subject.

In fact she was a great playmate both in and out of bed.

She stayed with me for the whole week. After breakfast each day she would go to her office (she worked for a western finance company) and in the evening she would return to the hotel.

She even bought ME a small gift when it was time for my flight back to Europe!

There was NO question of her wanting money from me. Just FUN!

In one way I was rather sorry that I missed out on the bar scene but how could I not take advantage of such a wonderful playmate.

Thanks to all that helped with my hotel selection and all those whose reports I read before this, my FIRST visit to Philippines.

Hotman.

[Tally Wacker]

Hi Guys,

There was NO question of her wanting money from me. Just FUN!

In one way I was rather sorry that I missed out on the bar scene but how could I not take advantage of such a wonderful playmate.

Hotman.Sounds like you had a great time and you probably did not miss much by not getting a bar girl. Although it could have been fun to have taken your playmate to a bar with you and turn it in to a threesome. I've found that even regular girls get a little wild around half nude pretty girls.

[Hutsori]

I came across this ad for a Makati condo. May be of interest to someone who's coming here soon for a couple of months. The rent is standard for the area and the perks can't be beat.

http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/cas/3885923733.html

[Pip Jaeger]

I came across this ad for a Makati condo. May be of interest to someone who's coming here soon for a couple of months. The rent is standard for the area and the perks can't be beat.

http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/cas/3885923733.htmlLike the old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is"; that's what this ad sounds like to me; completely bogus or quite possibly some kind of a set up, either by uncle LEO or a scammer like the girls' "husband in the province already". My vote is: "buyer beware"!

[Hutsori]

Like the old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is"; that's what this ad sounds like to me; completely bogus or quite possibly some kind of a set up, either by uncle LEO or a scammer like the girls' "husband in the province already". My vote is: "buyer beware"!Caveat emptor is always a given. I found the unique approach to rent a condo noteworthy.

[Tally Wacker]

Is the Crazy Rate on Asiatravel still the best way to reserve a room at New World?

The Asiatravel site does not tell you the hotel name until after you book but was always the New World previously. Is that still the case?

There are two choices in "Manila" either 4 or 5 star. Which one gets you the New World in Makati?

Thanks for any help!

TW

[Borque23]

Hi tallly,

Actually I don't know if it is still New World but let me warn you about one point about crazy rate.

Previously New World hotel was for "crazy rate in Makati" not in Manila. For Manila Crazy Rate was H2O hotel which has a bad location for me and hotel ain't that good.

That hotel can be cool for kids for the aquarium in rooms. But as you are posting here I assume you are not going to mongering with your kids or use them as your wingman.

Recently hotels in Manila are getting pricey. Especially 5* ones. So my advice will be to go for a nice 4* hotel with budget of 70-80 USD and use the money for other things. But that is my idea. I won't go for very cheap hotels as I don't feel comfortable but I don't want to pay 140 USD for one night in a five star hotel and in most those hotels they charge for internet and breakfast. So it comest to 160 USD.

You can book a nice suite in a 4 star hotel for 70 USD including a so-so breakfast. If you don't like go and have a breakfast in UCC coffee, have a nice lunch and dinner. And if you are good negotiator get laid. Maybe still will have enough money left to buy a San Miguel to offer me instead of paying 160 for those hotels.


Is the Crazy Rate on Asiatravel still the best way to reserve a room at New World?

The Asiatravel site does not tell you the hotel name until after you book but was always the New World previously. Is that still the case?

There are two choices in "Manila" either 4 or 5 star. Which one gets you the New World in Makati?

Thanks for any help!

TW

[Irony Monger]

I came across this ad for a Makati condo. May be of interest to someone who's coming here soon for a couple of months. The rent is standard for the area and the perks can't be beat.

http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/cas/3885923733.htmlHusband in the province? Run away. Remember that PI has some pretty strict adultery laws. We wouldn't want you to be the next senior member who ends up in the slammer.

[Tally Wacker]

Hi tallly,

Actually I don't know if it is still New World but let me warn you about one point about crazy rate.

Previously New World hotel was for "crazy rate in Makati" not in Manila. For Manila Crazy Rate was H2O hotel which has a bad location for me and hotel ain't that good.

That hotel can be cool for kids for the aquarium in rooms. But as you are posting here I assume you are not going to mongering with your kids or use them as your wingman.

Recently hotels in Manila are getting pricey. Especially 5* ones. So my advice will be to go for a nice 4* hotel with budget of 70-80 USD and use the money for other things. But that is my idea. I won't go for very cheap hotels as I don't feel comfortable but I don't want to pay 140 USD for one night in a five star hotel and in most those hotels they charge for internet and breakfast. So it comest to 160 USD.

You can book a nice suite in a 4 star hotel for 70 USD including a so-so breakfast. If you don't like go and have a breakfast in UCC coffee, have a nice lunch and dinner. And if you are good negotiator get laid. Maybe still will have enough money left to buy a San Miguel to offer me instead of paying 160 for those hotels.Thanks for the feedback Borque23. I've found that NW is no longer on the Crazy Rate for $99 and there is no Makati substtute. Looks like the H2O hotel in Manila is offered on Crazy Rate but as you said reviews don't look good plus location is not great. I emailed NW directly and they gave me a terrible rate of 8200 P!

I really enjoyed doing laps in the NW pool and then hitting the dry sauna after. Looks like I need to either pay up or find a different property.

[Rik6921]

Thanks for the feedback Borque23. I've found that NW is no longer on the Crazy Rate for $99 and there is no Makati substtute. Looks like the H2O hotel in Manila is offered on Crazy Rate but as you said reviews don't look good plus location is not great. I emailed NW directly and they gave me a terrible rate of 8200 P!

I really enjoyed doing laps in the NW pool and then hitting the dry sauna after. Looks like I need to either pay up or find a different property.I have stayed at NW numerous times, it is always good service and the location is nice. I stayed a Dusit Thani for more $ and the room was not as nice. I usually book through Agoda. I haven't had to pay 8200 P yet but the prices have been rising over the last few years. It looks like you can currently book for 5000 P. Sometimes I have had wifi included for free and sometimes it was not. I rarely make it to breakfast on time so I haven't been tracking that beni.

[Rik6921]

I stayed at Palm Plaza a couple nights a little while back and my opinion is you are better of trying somewhere else. Most of the hotels in the vicintiy are lower end. The br window wouldn't close and there were some small cockroaches. The shower heater had problems as well. If you nead a cheaper hotel in that area (R mall and MBC) I'd try Rothman or Riviera mansion but I'll most likely jump up to a four star outside that area and just take a taxi down to Malate if I want to go again.

[Tally Wacker]

I have stayed at NW numerous times, it is always good service and the location is nice. I stayed a Dusit Thani for more $ and the room was not as nice. I usually book through Agoda. I haven't had to pay 8200 P yet but the prices have been rising over the last few years. It looks like you can currently book for 5000 P. Sometimes I have had wifi included for free and sometimes it was not. I rarely make it to breakfast on time so I haven't been tracking that beni.Thanks Rik, I found the best rate on Agoda like you said.

[Tally Wacker]

I have stayed at NW numerous times, it is always good service and the location is nice. I stayed a Dusit Thani for more $ and the room was not as nice. I usually book through Agoda. I haven't had to pay 8200 P yet but the prices have been rising over the last few years. It looks like you can currently book for 5000 P. Sometimes I have had wifi included for free and sometimes it was not. I rarely make it to breakfast on time so I haven't been tracking that beni.I ended up booking the New World Superior room for $102 a night plus taxes at hoteltravel website.

It does not include the buffet breakfast like the Crazy Rate on Asia Travel previously did.

NW has a promo lunch buffet that starts at 11:30am for 794P.

TW

[Rjsss212]

Anyone have any experience at the Peninsula?

[X Man]

I like to have a pool and will often pay extra for that option. Sometimes I don't use the pool. What was I thinking.

Nevertheless, what are your favorite MM hotels with pools?

I don't live in MM, but let me throw out of few ideas.

Quirky: the smallish Paco Park Hotel has a tiny pool, but this is an interesting place. I haven't stayed there in a while but they used to have pink room, white room, etc.

M. Bay view: I've never stayed at the Diamond Hotel, but they have a large pool and there is a view of the Manila bay sunset. I used to pop in for a poolside drink / pictures when the baywalk was at it's heyday.

[Wicked Roger]

Anyone have any experience at the Peninsula?Yes nice hotel, many less expensive but depends on your budget. If Peninsula is your budget try Fairmont, Dusit etc which I think are better hotels.

[Rjsss212]

Yes nice hotel, many less expensive but depends on your budget. If Peninsula is your budget try Fairmont, Dusit etc which I think are better hotelsThanks I appreciate it! What makes them better?

[Eric Emp]

In response to PM by X-Man and for the benefit of other.

The Reason for Me picking Orion Hotel Were.

- It was stated on the web that is is a new hotel. Confirming it is correct.
- Pictures were Nice. Confirming the room was decent.
- Cost. Paid using my airline miles
- Break fast was included (Later discovered that it is only Filipino Breakfast)

Will I do it again.

- Yes if it a short Stay (over night and I have already companion arranged for the night)
- Definitely no for more than one night due to
. To far from the action.
. Not in a good area (too crowded)
. They don't have kitchen.

My preferred hotel is "The Pearl Manila" always had good experience and still price is reasonable (about USD 50)

[Wicked Roger]

Thanks I appreciate it! What makes them better?These hotels IMHO are closer to the centre of Makati. I like the Peninusla, nice afternoon teas, very British type of thing to do etc (just like some upscale hotels in India and Africa do). Just I find I can walk to Glorietta etc from the Dusit and Fairmont not from the Pen (same goes for the over priced Shangri La and the InterCon (which is OK but IMHO not the greatest). And I like the restaurants in those 2 hotels also but I mainly eat outside.

[Wjmpsr]

Has anyone stayed at this hotel located on Burgos street. I read a few reviews at various travel web sites where the writer complained the hotel was smack dab in the middle of the red light district. That sounds perfect to me.

[WestCoast1]

Has anyone stayed at this hotel located on Burgos street. I read a few reviews at various travel web sites where the writer complained the hotel was smack dab in the middle of the red light district. That sounds perfect to me.Have not stayed, but its on Burgos at the intersection of Durban street. Nice place I understand, and yes literally when you walk out the door you are in the thick of it. A bunch of FL stand in the street at the intersection ('massage' girls).

This recent pic was taken almost across the street from Oxford, looking up Burgos to the 7-11 on the right. Just out of sight to the right is the intersection and hotel.

[Wicked Roger]

Has anyone stayed at this hotel located on Burgos street. I read a few reviews at various travel web sites where the writer complained the hotel was smack dab in the middle of the red light district. That sounds perfect to me.IMHO there are better in the same location. I used to say there but as the reviews you mention stated, it needs TLC. Some rooms old, musty and damp.

In the same location is Tune hotel (rooms small) , Howzat Inn (rooms small). Both budget hotels so be expected. Also St Giles which looking at web sites maybe the same price as Oxford Suites. The you have the Durban hotel which is OK from those I know who stay there, Citadel (a dump based on what I am told but stand to be corrected) , City Gardens (long standing promo says PHP 1400 a night). But again TLC required.

And plenty more in the area so I would broaden my search but of course budget does dictate choice also.

[Red Kilt]

Have not stayed, but its on Burgos at the intersection of Durban street. Nice place I understand, and yes literally when you walk out the door you are in the thick of it. A bunch of FL stand in the street at the intersection ('massage' girls).

This recent pic was taken almost across the street from Oxford, looking up Burgos to the 7-11 on the right. Just out of sight to the right is the intersection and hotel.Oxford is a bit tired now and has quite a few "long-stay retirees" who live there at a long term rate.

As WC would quickly acknowledge, photos taken in the day time of ANY red light area never do it justice. WC's pic is looking down Burgos away from the Kalayaan Avenue junction towards the Makati Avenue junction at which place Burgos ends. If one turns right around and walks back along Burgos past the Kalayaan corner you eventually reach Makati Avenue again, as Burgos completes a half moon loop.

Burgos Street is primarily just a regular thoroughfare during the day, with a rather large school not too far away and with business people and schoolies using it to get to and fro home in the day time just like any other thoroughfare.

Of course, by night time, it is transformed into the riot of color and flashing lights that we all recognize so well.

[MarcoStraight]

Hi guys, I'll be for the first time in Philly, I'd like to have info on Green belt hotel in Makati. Does anyone know it? Any feedbck appreciate.

Marco

[Rik6921]

IMHO there are better in the same location. I used to say there but as the reviews you mention stated, it needs TLC. Some rooms old, musty and damp.

In the same location is Tune hotel (rooms small) , Howzat Inn (rooms small). Both budget hotels so be expected. Also St Giles which looking at web sites maybe the same price as Oxford Suites. The you have the Durban hotel which is OK from those I know who stay there, Citadel (a dump based on what I am told but stand to be corrected) , City Gardens (long standing promo says PHP 1400 a night). But again TLC required.

And plenty more in the area so I would broaden my search but of course budget does dictate choice also.I've stayed at St Giles a couple times, nice hotel, smaller size rooms. Reminds me of a decent Japanese hotel. Aircon noise was slightly annoying but besides that very nice and just down the side street from Burgos.

[Red Kilt]

Hi guys, I'll be for the first time in Philly, I'd like to have info on Green belt hotel in Makati. Does anyone know it? Any feedbck appreciate.

MarcoOneGreenbelt Hotel used to be "Roman Suites" which was a well-known "fishbowl-style" massage hotel which also doubled as a regular hotel.

The MP aspect was closed down and it has been renovated as a new brand.

It was quite well-appointed as a massage parlour with good rooms and showers.

I expect they have retained the same layout inside (the website seems to indicate that) but I have not yet been inside since it changed hands.

Location is superb if you wish to visit Greenbelt 1, 2.3, 4 or 5 (Havana is in 3) , with lots of restaurants. Just a 5 to 10 minute stroll across the road.

There are also wonderful Japanese restaurants along Pasay Road either side of the hotel.
You need a taxi to get to Burgos or to EDSA IEC.

[WestCoast1]

on kalayaan ave. 2 blocks from p burgos.

budget hotel, the room was p1350. there's a wonderful sports bar / restaurant (howzat sports bar) on the street, the hotel entrance is around the side alley. there are about 9 rooms, split between the second and third floor.

pros: cost. size of room was fine (not cramped, but not large) , i moved about easily. its a mere two blocks from the burgos action. the wifi signal and internet speed on the second floor was fine, and consistent. however i had trouble with it on the third floor, and they graciously moved me to the second floor. full closet for your clothes. aircon can be left on indefinately. restaurant around the corner with good aussie foods and a bunch of large flat-screen tv's. in-room safe.

cons: the front desk is really a small desk, not a counter. its staffed from 7am to 2pm daily. you get a set of keys to your room and also the front hotel door. they keep the door locked almost all the time, you have to use your key to get into the lobby (there's rarely anyone at the desk anyway). no phone in the room, and no front desk to call if there is a problem (easier to just open the door and yell into the hallway: "hey, my shitter is plugged. again. i mean the toilet." if there were ever trouble with the girl in your room, you have to leave her alone and go get help out at the sports bar. no elevator. the front door key, the room key, and the safety box (in room) key are all real keys and they are all different (you're going to juggle some keys getting into the hotel and your room). you cannot drop your keys on the way out at the front desk, you have to take them out with you. this is scary, if you drop them on the street, anyone who finds them can go right to your room (the hotel and room number are marked on them). the bed was not long enough, my feet were hitting the footboard.

[Dashing Don]

Anyone have any experience at the Peninsula?I used to stay there when it cost $150-$200 including taxes. That was a few years ago. Now, everytime I check, it comes to about $300 a night which I won't pay. For me its the premier place to stay in Manila. Number one is the location. Its a block away from Glorietta etc and you have to navigate the walkway that goes under Ayala Ave to get anywhere, but that block separates you from the relentlessness of Manila. The Pen is an island of luxury and quiet where you can breathe. Nice pool and gym. Other five star hotels like the Shangri and Dusit are right in the thick of things and don't offer the same respite.

But perhaps the best thing is the lobby. It is large and is several stories high. An orchestra plays there most nights while you can eat or people watch in the lobby. Imelda Marcos was at a table close to mine a few years ago. Its an event in itself. And when you meet a girl there. Its only natural that she would want to get to know you better.

For my Sept trip I'll be slumming it at the Mandarin Oriental, a few blocks away, which is in the $150 range and is also removed from the heaving masses however sans the lobby wow factor. I notice that the Philippine peso is slipping vs the dollar, so who knows? Maybe one day it will again be possible to linger in the Pen lobby while waiting for a young lady to arrive.

[WestCoast1]

Its staffed from 7am to 2pm daily.Oops. 7am to 2am. Nobody on duty from 2am-7am.

[Member #4387]

I used to stay there when it cost $150-$200 including taxes. That was a few years ago. Now, everytime I check, it comes to about $300 a night which I won't pay. For me its the premier place to stay in Manila. Number one is the location. Its a block away from Glorietta etc and you have to navigate the walkway that goes under Ayala Ave to get anywhere, but that block separates you from the relentlessness of Manila. The Pen is an island of luxury and quiet where you can breathe. Nice pool and gym. Other five star hotels like the Shangri and Dusit are right in the thick of things and don't offer the same respite.

But perhaps the best thing is the lobby. It is large and is several stories high. An orchestra plays there most nights while you can eat or people watch in the lobby. Imelda Marcos was at a table close to mine a few years ago. Its an event in itself. And when you meet a girl there. Its only natural that she would want to get to know you better.

For my Sept trip I'll be slumming it at the Mandarin Oriental, a few blocks away, which is in the $150 range and is also removed from the heaving masses however sans the lobby wow factor. I notice that the Philippine peso is slipping vs the dollar, so who knows? Maybe one day it will again be possible to linger in the Pen lobby while waiting for a young lady to arrive.Thank you for a great heads up to a hotel I have not reviewed while looking at various location for my mongerstays in the Makatis. My favorite so far is the Ascott recidense (hotelentrance vis a vis entrance to Glorietta 4 Mall). What I find to be Peninsulas (stunning lobby as you also mention) minus in my book is the lack of kitchenette (I love to make my own baguette with ham and cheece). To get a fully equipped kitchen in Peninsula I have to book the Peninsula Suite (comes with a Steinway and library) and I guess my fundings won't hold up many days living there, hehe. But I agree waiting for a little pinayrose in this lobby would have its charm.

[Wjmpsr]

I checked this hotels website when it was recommended as an alternative to Oxford Suites. Looks like they have taken details to a minuscule level. Like extra for tv, wifi, towels, etc, my first experience with this kind of pricing.

[Rjsss212]

Thanks DD for your eloquent response.

That is precisely why I stay at the Peninsula when in BKK. It is an extremely luxurious and civilized haven from the filth and stench of the city (and that's just the other mongers) and affords me the absolute best of both worlds, I. E. Extreme luxury and an endless supply of beautiful, compliant women available at my beckon call anytime day or night (see my pics in the BKK photo section.)

Sure it's not cheap but after all, for a single, type A guy, that's one of the main reasons to have worked so hard, dealt with all those assholes and made all that money. Almost a modern, western variation of 72 virgins theme (without the ultimate sacrifice).

Don't wait too long


I used to stay there when it cost $150-$200 including taxes. That was a few years ago. Now, everytime I check, it comes to about $300 a night which I won't pay. For me its the premier place to stay in Manila. Number one is the location. Its a block away from Glorietta etc and you have to navigate the walkway that goes under Ayala Ave to get anywhere, but that block separates you from the relentlessness of Manila. The Pen is an island of luxury and quiet where you can breathe. Nice pool and gym. Other five star hotels like the Shangri and Dusit are right in the thick of things and don't offer the same respite...

[Member #4387]

I checked this hotels website when it was recommended as an alternative to Oxford Suites. Looks like they have taken details to a minuscule level. Like extra for tv, wifi, towels, etc, my first experience with this kind of pricing.If I remember correctly do Tune hotels operate under the same owner, group of owners(Tune Group) as Air Asia and this hotel is runned quite simular to the airline. You get a ticket from a to b with a small piece of handluggage at reasonable cost(for the hotel you get a room and a bed). The rest will cost you extra. This is their consept in play(like it or not). I dont know about the Tune hotels but it seems Air Asia is profitable so people do tend to if not like it atleast use it(but not my style to be frank and that goes for both hotel and airline)..

[Wicked Roger]

I checked this hotels website when it was recommended as an alternative to Oxford Suites. Looks like they have taken details to a minuscule level. Like extra for tv, wifi, towels, etc, my first experience with this kind of pricing.It is as Skogis said and am sure will try charge for toilet paper LOL.

Can get good deals but if standard pricing and you add up all the stuff you normally get from a hotel pricing is not competitive IMHO. And small room as I was eating at Team Insider (same as Howzat but newer) which is in the hotel and some of the guys there told me room small etc.

Many others you could try nearby. See WC1 FR on Howzat Inn, there is St Giles opposite, Durban is nearby. See earlier FRs.

[Fast Eddie 48]

If I remember correctly do Tune hotels operate under the same owner, group of owners(Tune Group) as Air Asia and this hotel is runned quite simular to the airline. You get a ticket from a to b with a small piece of handluggage at reasonable cost(for the hotel you get a room and a bed). The rest will cost you extra. This is their consept in play(like it or not). I dont know about the Tune hotels but it seems Air Asia is profitable so people do tend to if not like it atleast use it(but not my style to be frank and that goes for both hotel and airline).To Skogis,

Tune is a no thrill hotel with very small room I have stay in the Bangkok and Penang both book with Agoda, the room are small no mini bar but the double bed is very comfortable and with LCD TV and inroom safe if you book with Agoda it do included everything my friend stay at the one in Cebu city he like it and location is great.

Fast Eddie 48

[Hutsori]

on kalayaan ave. 2 blocks from p burgos.

budget hotel, the room was p1350. there's a wonderful sports bar / restaurant (howzat sports bar) on the street, the hotel entrance is around the side alley. there are about 9 rooms, split between the second and third floor.

pros: cost. size of room was fine (not cramped, but not large) , i moved about easily. its a mere two blocks from the burgos action. the wifi signal and internet speed on the second floor was fine, and consistent. however i had trouble with it on the third floor, and they graciously moved me to the second floor. full closet for your clothes. aircon can be left on indefinately. restaurant around the corner with good aussie foods and a bunch of large flat-screen tv's. in-room safe.

cons: the front desk is really a small desk, not a counter. its staffed from 7am to 2pm daily. you get a set of keys to your room and also the front hotel door. they keep the door locked almost all the time, you have to use your key to get into the lobby (there's rarely anyone at the desk anyway). no phone in the room, and no front desk to call if there is a problem (easier to just open the door and yell into the hallway: "hey, my shitter is plugged. again. i mean the toilet." if there were ever trouble with the girl in your room, you have to leave her alone and go get help out at the sports bar. no elevator. the front door key, the room key, and the safety box (in room) key are all real keys and they are all different (you're going to juggle some keys getting into the hotel and your room). you cannot drop your keys on the way out at the front desk, you have to take them out with you. this is scary, if you drop them on the street, anyone who finds them can go right to your room (the hotel and room number are marked on them). the bed was not long enough, my feet were hitting the footboard.i stayed there and posted a report a while back. i was on the 2nd floor (really 1st floor) first room on the left. at the time i was there not all the safes were functioning, so make certain you check. the bathroom was unbelievably tiny. my neighbor lost his key at night and couldn't get back in til the following day, so he had to pay for another hotel that night. would i stay there again? yes. would i first check the similarly-priced "clipper hotel" at the end of burgos? of course. has a front desk, security, though the rooms are smaller.

[Brastrav]

Gents,

I've searched this thread about the Manila Crown Palace Hotel but found nothing. It seems to be located on the corner of Adriatico Street and Alonzo Street in Malate (Ermita). Any information about this hotel is very welcome, but does anyone know if this hotel is GF?

[Soapy Smith]

Gents,

I've searched this thread about the Manila Crown Palace Hotel but found nothing. It seems to be located on the corner of Adriatico Street and Alonzo Street in Malate (Ermita). Any information about this hotel is very welcome, but does anyone know if this hotel is GF?I have never stayed there, but everything about it-location, appearance, website-suggest that it would be GF. Hotels in Metro Manila are GF with a couple of types of exceptions: hostel type places and those that explicitly advertise that they are "family-oriented" or otherwise promote Christian themes. The Kabayan Hotels with locations in Pasay (near EDSA and Taft) , Monumento, and Cubao are typical of the latter group. All the other hotels, from high end Makati and Ortigas Center hotels to grungy little places like the Duck Inn, are GF.

BTW, Malate and Ermita are not synonymous. Ermita runs from Pedro Gil northward to Intramuros and from Manila Bay eastward to Paco. Malate runs southward from Pedro Gil to Pasay City; the boundary is just south of Pablo Ocampo. The Crown Palace is in Malate, about two blocks south of Pedro Gil.

[MarcoStraight]

OneGreenbelt Hotel used to be "Roman Suites" which was a well-known "fishbowl-style" massage hotel which also doubled as a regular hotel.

The MP aspect was closed down and it has been renovated as a new brand.

It was quite well-appointed as a massage parlour with good rooms and showers.

I expect they have retained the same layout inside (the website seems to indicate that) but I have not yet been inside since it changed hands.

Location is superb if you wish to visit Greenbelt 1, 2.3, 4 or 5 (Havana is in 3) , with lots of restaurants. Just a 5 to 10 minute stroll across the road.

There are also wonderful Japanese restaurants along Pasay Road either side of the hotel.

You need a taxi to get to Burgos or to EDSA IEC.Thanks a lot my friend, I hope they still keep some massage parlour inside.

[WestCoast1]

eurotel ermita. pedro gil across from robinson's.

chose a standard room (a tad larger than a studio). queen bed. p2500 / night; but booked for 4 nights and they threw in a 5th night free (promo). free buffet breakfast (not bad) that included fish, rice, veggies, bread, juice / coffee, and meat every morning.

first problem: the room wouldn't connect to the wifi, with the router just outside the door. a steward was sent up, and he took me to a room nearby (#2). same problem. off to another room around the corner, same problem (#3). finally a fourth room and the thing lit up like a christmas tree. nice that the kid took the time (about 25 minutes) to attempt that many rooms.

second problem: the toilet would not completely flush. if you peed, it was fine. but it would not take down even a single sheet of tissue. every #2 had to have a plunging. after my girl (s) and i caused 3 plungings in one afternoon / evening, the manager mentioned to me that the toilet needed removing, and he'd like to move me to another room. sure thing fella. i mentioned that i was taking the girls out for dinner and he said he'd send a kid up with a cell phone to find a similar room with a good wifi connection. i asked: don't all your rooms have wifi? the website says so, and the girl at the desk says so, and the emails say so. 'well sir, not so. we have problems. many rooms have it. ' when we returned from dinner, they had moved my stuff to the new room (#5). nice!

a walk around the hallways showed all of the routers to be the older 'g' rated models. fair speed, but notorious for not being able to broadcast thru a sheet of tissue paper. need to upgrade to newer 'n' models at some point: faster routers (important when multiple computers / cell phones are utilizing it at once) and they blast thru walls easily.

positives: the staff is wonderful, experienced, and extremely accommodating. can't say enough about them. if i brought an issue to anyone's attention, someone was knocking on the door or phoning the room within 2 minutes to fix it. the door guys memorized my name the first afternoon: 'sir xxxxxx welcome back. ' when i turned around to go back up to my room because i'd forgotten my umbrella, they just handed me one of theirs.

the breakfast is nice. the elevator is relatively fast (7 floors).

the rooms are average size (not large) , but clean / tidy.

full restaurant room service is available 24/7.

oddity: there is a 'cage' behind the front desk. you must enter the caged area to get to the elevator or stairs. the cage has a locking mechanism on the door, you must push a button from the outside to open the door and get in. from the inside you must reach thru the door opening and push the button on the outside if you want to get out.

very girl-friendly.

all in all a good stay, and i recommend the place.

http://www.eurotel-hotel.com/eh/pedrogil/index.html

[WestCoast1]

Tropicana Apartments, Guerrero Street, Malate. I or others might have reviewed this place before.

http://tropicanasuites.com.ph/home.php

Two blocks from Robinson's Place Mall. I reserved for several nights by walking in one day while out for my morning constitutional. I chose a 1-bedroom suite for p2800 / night. There is tax added to that, but I mentioned that the website had a promo. The girl at the desk said the promo ended in May, and I was sweet-talking her, telling her the Lord wanted me to have that promo, otherwise they would have removed it from the website. She said: 'I know huh! ' We were laughing when the manager walked up. I've known her for some years now. She said sure, give him the promo.

The place is an apartment complex with plenty of pinoy living there, and a fair amount of asian foreigners renting (I rarely see another white man staying there when I'm staying there). The rooms are spacious, with the living room / kitchenette being very spacious, with room for a coffee table and also dining room table. In-room safety box. There is a balcony also. The kitchenette comes complete with cooking utensils. The wifi is strong and relatively fast, but you must log in and use an odd username / password on a website. Everytime you log out or re-start your computer, you must log into the same website again in order to get access. Also, you cannot log in with more than one device at a time.

Two elevators that are fairly fast. Caution: the elevators only run up to floor 8, but there are 9 floors. If your room is on floor 9, you must walk up that last flight of stairs after taking the elevator.

The hotel has a lovely olympic-length pool (with attendant) , shallow and deep ends (9'). Pics attached.

Free hotel breakfast is provided next door at Mr. Poon's Fish restaurant. In the one block down Guerrero street to Pedro Gil, there is also: a laundry, a tiny convenience store, a massage place (p49 feet, p299 full body – no extras offered) , and an internet cafe. There's often a street display of bbq or fresh fruit. Everything a man could want minus pussy. That's where I come in.

Door security is good about everything, including going to Pedro Gil and getting me a metered taxi (not a hotel taxi) when I need to depart. And very girl-friendly.

Now downside here, I've stayed here many times and recommend it. Pool pics attached.

[FreebieFan]

Eurotel Ermita.

Oddity: There is a 'cage' behind the front desk. You must enter the caged area to get to the elevator or stairs. The cage has a locking mechanism on the door, you must push a button from the outside to open the door and get in. From the inside you must reach thru the door opening and push the button on the outside if you want to get out.

http://www.eurotel-hotel.com/EH/pedrogil/index.htmlThis seems to be a Eurotel thing. The one at the end of Pasay Road has the same cage feature so you can't access elevators unless you have a key card to access through the cage.

[Red Kilt]

This seems to be a Eurotel thing. The one at the end of Pasay Road has the same cage feature so you can't access elevators unless you have a key card to access through the cage.Huh? It's got the same old red button that you push.

It doesn't need keycard access? I used it at weekend LOL.

Always the bell-boy check-in guy there to help you too. I think this one in Chino Roces / Pasay Road corner near Walter Mart is the best of all Eurotels.

[Hutsori]

Tropicana Apartments, Guerrero Street, Malate. I or others might have reviewed this place before.Great review. One quibble: Until shaggin' becomes an event I doubt anyone here is an Olympian; the pool at the Tropicana is far less than the 50m of "Olympic" length. I swim laps twice a day and wish it was so.

[Fast Eddie 48]

=Westcoast1; 1447587]Eurotel Ermita. Pedro Gil across from Robinson's.

Chose a Standard room (a tad larger than a Studio). Queen bed. P2500 / night; but booked for 4 nights and they threw in a 5th night free (promo). Free buffet breakfast (not bad) that included fish, rice, veggies, bread, juice / coffee, and meat every morning.West coast,

I stay in Eurotel 5 yr ago never again you can get a Standard tiny room 18 sq M for 37 USD with Agoda, I hate the bed is too hard for me and no mini bar and frig very basic and the buffett breakfast sucks, I arrive early want to check in at 10am they want to charge me 800 pesos for early check in. I already paid in full to Agoda, only thing good is the locations across from the Robinson place.

Fast Eddie 48

[Docwiltro]

Tropicana Apartments, Guerrero Street, Malate. I or others might have reviewed this place before.

http://tropicanasuites.com.ph/home.php

Two blocks from Robinson's Place Mall. I reserved for several nights by walking in one day while out for my morning constitutional. I chose a 1-bedroom suite for p2800 / night. There is tax added to that, but I mentioned that the website had a promo. The girl at the desk said the promo ended in May, and I was sweet-talking her, telling her the Lord wanted me to have that promo, otherwise they would have removed it from the website. She said: 'I know huh! ' We were laughing when the manager walked up. I've known her for some years now. She said sure, give him the promo.

The place is an apartment complex with plenty of pinoy living there, and a fair amount of asian foreigners renting (I rarely see another white man staying there when I'm staying there). The rooms are spacious, with the living room / kitchenette being very spacious, with room for a coffee table and also dining room table. In-room safety box. There is a balcony also. The kitchenette comes complete with cooking utensils. The wifi is strong and relatively fast, but you must log in and use an odd username / password on a website. Everytime you log out or re-start your computer, you must log into the same website again in order to get access. Also, you cannot log in with more than one device at a time.

Two elevators that are fairly fast. Caution: the elevators only run up to floor 8, but there are 9 floors. If your room is on floor 9, you must walk up that last flight of stairs after taking the elevator.

The hotel has a lovely olympic-length pool (with attendant) , shallow and deep ends (9'). Pics attached.

Free hotel breakfast is provided next door at Mr. Poon's Fish restaurant. In the one block down Guerrero street to Pedro Gil, there is also: a laundry, a tiny convenience store, a massage place (p49 feet, p299 full body – no extras offered) , and an internet cafe. There's often a street display of bbq or fresh fruit. Everything a man could want minus pussy. That's where I come in.

Door security is good about everything, including going to Pedro Gil and getting me a metered taxi (not a hotel taxi) when I need to depart. And very girl-friendly.

Now downside here, I've stayed here many times and recommend it. Pool pics attached.Very good review, but I might add that the neighborhood surrounding the Tropicana (St. Paul's University is across the street) is very good; so, it is quite safe to walk around at night. Also, the security officers at the hotel have been there for years, know the scene, and will look out for you.

One thing about the pool though, it is located on the east side of the hotel; so, it gets a little cold swimming in the afternoon. Another plus to the hotel is the roof top viewing area; it's really nice at night.

I've stayed at the Trop. Numerous times, but it's gotten so popular that price-wise it's not the value it once was, but I always enjoyed my stays, and Erlinda, the reservations manager, never forgets you. Her memory is pretty amazing.