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Lads, lads lads(((((On Mamba www.Freerussiandating. Us www.Russian-dating-site.net call it what you want, you can find 100's for less than $100. I had one yesterday travel from Cherkassy 200 kms away for the night for $100.
Tomorrow, another is coming 150kms to meet myself and my girlfriend for 2 nights for $200. Tell those idiotkas that "wow, I never saw pussy of gold" when they quote these crazy prices!are they all flawless looking? most of girl I contacted with is the best looking among the profiles...
for example lady...who gave me rate for 500 dollar overnight..
http://mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=141279448&hit=3
I am going to kiev because of girl's quality and beauty.
Why don't you go for the (Working Class Looking) Girls?
If anything they are the majority in the Ukraine.then..why would I go to Ukraine...rather stay in California to find decent hooker.
HunterDave
09-26-10, 02:41
To all mongerers,
We have got to work hard and toe the line to negotiate hard to keep the rate of p4p inflation down. In fact we need to push for deflation. All it takes is a few weak mongerers to agree to some outragious p4p rate for little in return and these hotties will begin to expect it. And it can spread like wildfire. Use your big head!
Here is an excerpt (no need to post the whole article) from a 2 Sep 'Kiev Weekly' article which stated that 'The average monthly salary in June 2010 in Ukraine was UAH 2, 000 – 2, 500, according to the State Statistics Committee. '
That is monthly 2, 000-2, 500 UAH, not a week, not for a night, a whole fricken month. Now clearly they are not including RP or college hottie figures in those figures but this is what we need them all to expect. We all need to toe the hard negotiation line! When I see mongerers here talking 200, 300, 500 USD for a meeting I get perturbed and pissed. I agree with several other here on ISG that you morons need to hit all your other hot spots and pass on Kiev. We need these young hotties to not expect too damn much money for a roll in the sack.
Who the hell knows what the 2012 Euro Cup will do this little paradise called Kiev, but we sure as hell do not need to start paying higher costs now! My guess (and I hope I am wrong) is that we have about 18 good months of mongering in Kiev before the Euro Cup and then the word will get out about the quality of the women at very nice p4p prices and the hotties expectations for higher money will need to be suppressed. I think the genie will get out of the bottle in 2012. I hope I am wrong!
Remember, the better a mongerer negotiates, the more he saves for the next hottie and possible more 'strange' he can meet and capture.
Think with your big head first!
Hunter
There is one local monger site ebi.te.ua but it is in Russian. I found the reviews for your Lena (the last one being from July 2009) and they say exactly the same thing you did. She has been around as I recall, now for more than five years and perhaps longer. She did at one point intrigue me but I have never visited her since I learned long ago she was a waste of time and especially money. Lots of poor reviews back when she first started on another site now no longer operating.
The problem with any Google or other translation of ebi.te.ua is many of the posters write in a type of Russian or Ukrainian that just cannot be translated. Because of this, understanding or being able to read reviews is hit or miss. However, it is worth checking out as an outstanding local resource, especially if you know Russian very well.What's the new address of ebi.te.ua?
I remember that some weeks ago they had a message saying that they were relocating to another site, something like kievx.ua but I haven't written it down. I tried to enter the old ebi.te in the last days but without success.
then..why would I go to Ukraine...rather stay in California to find decent hooker.Who said Upper or Middle class people are Nicer looking than the Working Classes?
Only Working Girls sell Sex.
I am going to Kiev because of girl's quality and beauty.If want quality and beauty then you will have to pay for it of course.
The girl on profile will ask you for more then money for sex most probably.
Take her here, there her there, buy her this and that, and of course for the kid.
Reading her profile she's most probably professinal sponsorete he he.
When you count up all expences you will find it would be cheaper and easier to stay home.
HunterDave
09-26-10, 16:30
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then..why would I go to Ukraine...rather stay in California to find decent hooker.Ahh, but you have stumbled upon a decent argument yet age-old question. Why is it bad to monger stateside aka 'fish off your own dock?'
Because of sting operations and prices, I say. in other countries it is far easier and accepted. Nobody wants to make the local police blotter as a 'John' but abroad it is game on.
Mellowtrax
09-26-10, 23:59
To all mongerers,
We have got to work hard and toe the line to negotiate hard to keep the rate of p4p inflation down. In fact we need to push for deflation. All it takes is a few weak mongerers to agree to some outragious p4p rate for little in return and these hotties will begin to expect it. And it can spread like wildfire. Use your big head!
Here is an excerpt (no need to post the whole article) from a 2 Sep 'Kiev Weekly' article which stated that 'The average monthly salary in June 2010 in Ukraine was UAH 2, 000 – 2, 500, according to the State Statistics Committee. '
That is monthly 2, 000-2, 500 UAH, not a week, not for a night, a whole fricken month. Now clearly they are not including RP or college hottie figures in those figures but this is what we need them all to expect. We all need to toe the hard negotiation line! When I see mongerers here talking 200, 300, 500 USD for a meeting I get perturbed and pissed. I agree with several other here on ISG that you morons need to hit all your other hot spots and pass on Kiev. We need these young hotties to not expect too damn much money for a roll in the sack.
Lads, lads lads(((((On Mamba you can find 100's for less than $100. I had one yesterday travel from Cherkassy 200 kms away for the night for $100.
Tomorrow, another is coming 150kms to meet myself and my girlfriend for 2 nights for $200. Tell those idiotkas that "wow, I never saw pussy of gold" when they quote these crazy prices! Gentlemen,
Your posts are spot on!
I have recently experienced mediocre looking P4P’s quoting crazy prices between 700-1000 UAH per hour for “classic and massage” only. How the hell did they get these prices into their heads?
It’s time to negotiate harder and keep the prices at a minimum, including myself. I haven’t yet succeeded negotiating the price down to 100 $ for one night like IL, but I haven’t paid 500 $ for a single night or 300 $ for 1 hour either!
I think it’s reasonable to assume that a high percentage of Ukrainian mongers are reading forums like ISG, so spread the word, improve your negotiation skills and optimize your payoff. Let the girls know you have many other and cheaper options when they start asking for crazy prizes.
What's the new address of ebi.te.ua?The new address is http://kiev-x.in
are they all flawless looking? most of girl I contacted with is the best looking among the profiles...
for example lady...who gave me rate for 500 dollar overnight..
http://mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=141279448&hit=3
I am going to kiev because of girl's quality and beauty.
Sorry, but I fail to see how a mother of a schoolkid, admitting she's 29 (which probably means 33 or 34) is top quality!
As IrishLad, HunterDave and others are saying, you need to learn about negotiation. Even in RP (or Arena, Buddha Bar now) you could easily hook a babe of 9 or 10, for $200 for 3 hours.
But the real value, and far, far better sex, is with inexperienced dyevs - many genuine girls to be found on Mamba. I don't do all nighters as I have two GFs in Ukr and it's hard to juggle everything!!! I don't pay above 700UAH for 90 mins for any mamba contact.
AColonizer
09-28-10, 12:03
Oh, at last, men are writing about the same "financial" problem that I wrote since three years ago: how much I wrote about crazy prices and possible solutions!
But a solution is not an easy word-to-mouth. It is sure a lot of pimps read here and word-to-mouth works well with prostitutes. Unfortunately it doesn't work well with customers. You are right: very hard negotiate skill.
Here begins another problem.
Most men don't mind if a woman is young or beautiful, they mind if a woman is piggish and cheap only. Instead some men (me too) like young and beautiful and piggish women only (and they are often the cheapest too).
The very hard negotiate skill works for the first and second time but, then, women understand we are loyal customers of them and so they become capricious (in mala fide).
It is easy to reply "change woman", unfortunately to find model-style sows is very hard.
What can we do in that situation?
Gentlemen,
Your posts are spot on!
I have recently experienced mediocre looking P4P’s quoting crazy prices between 700-1000 UAH per hour for “classic and massage” only. How the hell did they get these prices into their heads?
It’s time to negotiate harder and keep the prices at a minimum, including myself. I haven’t yet succeeded negotiating the price down to 100 $ for one night like IL, but I haven’t paid 500 $ for a single night or 300 $ for 1 hour either!
I think it’s reasonable to assume that a high percentage of Ukrainian mongers are reading forums like ISG, so spread the word, improve your negotiation skills and optimize your payoff. Let the girls know you have many other and cheaper options when they start asking for crazy prizes.
Sorry, but I fail to see how a mother of a schoolkid, admitting she's 29 (which probably means 33 or 34) is top quality!
As IrishLad, HunterDave and others are saying, you need to learn about negotiation. Even in RP (or Arena, Buddha Bar now) you could easily hook a babe of 9 or 10, for $200 for 3 hours.
But the real value, and far, far better sex, is with inexperienced dyevs - many genuine girls to be found on Mamba. I don't do all nighters as I have two GFs in Ukr and it's hard to juggle everything!!! I don't pay above 700UAH for 90 mins for any mamba contact.So what's the best price for all night? 300 dollar is fair? Price?
Let's set the price and we all do it as team.
So what's the best price for all night? 300 dollar is fair? Price?
Let's set the price and we all do it as team.
IMHO it depends where you met the girl....but one thing for sure, pay her in UAH, don;t even mention $ or the expected price goes up!!
If you picked her up from shooters, or another "normal" club, well, I have paid as little as 200hriv as a present, or 200 + 50 for cab. But make sure you "promise" to meet again and have lunch sometime soon!!
If she's from Mamba and a pro, then max 1500UAH (max $190)....you may be able to get 1200UAH. Wouldn't ever pay above 1500 (maybe tip of 200 + taxi 50 makes it 1750). Too many girls.
With flirt or mamba it completely depends on how you write to them. Even if they are pros and blatantly say it, don't mention it at first, just write normal stuff, maybe saying you've heard about Ukr girls, and you're not sure. They like the idea of seducing "new" guys....price will come down believe me! If you write "skoilka" in first message price won't ever move from 800 or 1000 for one hour, 3000 all night, or similar.
If girl is from Arena, Buddha Bar, etc: i.e. obviously working, you will probably have to go to $300 for the night if you;re not experienced. You may get $200, I prefer to negotiate for night and then accept price for 3-4 hours. I don't need more and it means I get sleep. However, often if treated well (unless they are mothers) the girls will stay with you anyway if it's a nice apartment, and you'll wake up with a nice "da svidanya"
Hope that's of use....but guys like Irish Lad and UkeBoy know the scene better than me....my punting experience is limited of late because of freebies.
So what's the best price for all night? 300 dollar is fair? Price? Let's set the price and we all do it as team. Right, as though mongers now have formed a union that will see to it that prices are strictly maintained. What a fantasy world you live in.
The best price, all night, or 30 minutes is what you feel is the right price for the girl and the services provided. It is an individual experience.
Some guys really are damned stupid and overpay. There is nothing you nor I can do about it.
Much of my fun is free but I also spend time with the paid ladies as a nice change of pace. Why limit myself. However, I will always try to negotiate but at the end of the paid session, I will always evaluate it by one result: Did I enjoy it regardless of what I paid? Honestly, more than 90% of the time, I can say yes. I have had very few dismal experiences.
Lads, lads lads(((((On Mamba www.Freerussiandating. Us www.Russian-dating-site.net call it what you want, you can find 100's for less than $100. I had one yesterday travel from Cherkassy 200 kms away for the night for $100.
Tomorrow, another is coming 150kms to meet myself and my girlfriend for 2 nights for $200. Tell those idiotkas that "wow, I never saw pussy of gold" when they quote these crazy prices!
IL I'm very envious... hope I can soon come there...
IT ;)
are they all flawless looking? most of girl I contacted with is the best looking among the profiles...
for example lady...who gave me rate for 500 dollar overnight..
http://mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=141279448&hit=3
I am going to kiev because of girl's quality and beauty.It depends on your taste. The girl you linked here is attractive but the fact she writes "I love men with money" on her profile reduces her from an 8 to a 3 in my eyes. She'll only see you as a Bankomat. There are so many beautiful girls here that after a while you start to get too fussy and end up meeting only Barbies.
In my experience, an attactive girl with a good attitude who is in to group sex is flawless.
I just found it www.bigmir.net which is ukraine's search engine and if you type "dosug" you can find various ukraine escort website.
I found those from Bigmir.net
http://xmodel.com.ua/
http://vip-dosug.com/ I like this site~ they put 100 percent sign on the photo.
http://intimgirls.net/
http://intimgirls.net/index.php?p=records&mode=1&sort=date_enter%20desc&id=1481&ftext=&find=&fphoto=
Wow. This one is my type of girl. I wish photo is real.
It depends on your taste. The girl you linked here is attractive but the fact she writes "I love men with money" on her profile reduces her from an 8 to a 3 in my eyes. She'll only see you as a Bankomat. There are so many beautiful girls here that after a while you start to get too fussy and end up meeting only Barbies.
In my experience, an attactive girl with a good attitude who is in to group sex is flawless.
Il as usual we totally agree, by the way 29? A note for Jeankim: she writes 29, so usually she might be 33-5! Go for a 19teen instead...
so what's the best price for all night? 300 dollar is fair? price?
let's set the price and we all do it as team.
i must say i fairly prefer the naive, next door type, sometimes skinny, ultra skinny (those with no tits at all like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)), or softies… but all mostly homegrown… and as young as possible (and legal)..
just some ideas no pimping!
http://flirt.com.ua/yulia75a/
http://flirt.com.ua/siamin/
http://flirt.com.ua/malenka101/
nice home grown naive, ready for everything, by far better in bed than those sharapova like ones… just my two cents
it
had just a couple of misses the other sponosrettes were georgeous in bed... still remember the last katya prefectly using her tongue piercing (between foreskin and my best frind's head!), while i was deep kissing and dildoing her friend nastya... and they were jus a 6.5-6.8 not more...
Gentlemen,
Your posts are spot on!
I have recently experienced mediocre looking P4P’s quoting crazy prices between 700-1000 UAH per hour for “classic and massage” only. How the hell did they get these prices into their heads?
It’s time to negotiate harder and keep the prices at a minimum, including myself. I haven’t yet succeeded negotiating the price down to 100 $ for one night like IL, but I haven’t paid 500 $ for a single night or 300 $ for 1 hour either!
I think it’s reasonable to assume that a high percentage of Ukrainian mongers are reading forums like ISG, so spread the word, improve your negotiation skills and optimize your payoff. Let the girls know you have many other and cheaper options when they start asking for crazy prizes.
Thanks for salary information. Just came back from Kiev and as per my information if correct or not is: Kiev average salary per month USD 300-500. I paid for Mamba girl no more than USD 100 and much better I prefer to negotite and pay in UAH
Prices are in the range of 50-100$.If you want you can pay no more than 50$ for mamba girls.
Prices are in the range of 50-100$.If you want you can pay no more than 50$ for mamba girls.I agree. I had some offers from two (2) perfect early 20s girls out in the street, asking 1000 Grn (about 125 USD, 100 Euro) for BOTH of them. And 2 girls from Mamba (mid 20s) for the same. And a PERFECT blonde from top models (20 ?) for 800 Grn (100 USD). And several for 500 Grn. Anyway, more detailed reports later. But please, keep the prices down!
I just found it www.bigmir.net which is ukraine's search engine and if you type "dosug" you can find various ukraine escort website.
I found those from Bigmir.net
http://xmodel.com.ua/
http://vip-dosug.com/ I like this site~ they put 100 percent sign on the photo.
http://intimgirls.net/
http://intimgirls.net/index.php?p=records&mode=1&sort=date_enter%20desc&id=1481&ftext=&find=&fphoto=
Wow. This one is my type of girl. I wish photo is real.
Yes I was looking at the Intimgirls site, looks to good to be true, on Google Chrome when I translate the page the rates show as EUR, lets hope that's a mistake, I wouldn't want to pay €600!
Yes I was looking at the Intimgirls site, looks to good to be true, on Google Chrome when I translate the page the rates show as EUR, lets hope that's a mistake, I wouldn't want to pay €600!Rph. If you translate in Google translator it turns out Euro. But rph is Uah.
So 600 UAH = 76 US dollar right now.
Yes I was looking at the Intimgirls site, looks to good to be true, on Google Chrome when I translate the page the rates show as EUR, lets hope that's a mistake, I wouldn't want to pay €600!So this is Serious Research before Landing?
Wizz Air is calling out for you.
May & June best time. Then Sept till Nov.
AColonizer
11-07-10, 23:19
What a mess! People don't understand if prices are hourly or overnight. Learn by HunterDave before to go to Ukraine. And I repeat again: that's no possible Ukrainian girls work better abroad than in Kiev, for example deepthroat swallow blowjob should be a must in Kiev too!
What a mess! People don't understand if prices are hourly or overnight. Learn by HunterDave before to go to Ukraine. And I repeat again: that's no possible Ukrainian girls work better abroad than in Kiev, for example deepthroat swallow blowjob should be a must in Kiev too!http://vipbabes.com.ua/index.php?lang=en&sort=by-age
I am posting this escort for who does not want to spend more then 60 dollar per hour. I do not know the girls quality. Figure it out and tell me.
http://vipbabes.com.ua/index.php?lang=en&sort=by-age
I am posting this escort for who does not want to spend more then 60 dollar per hour. I do not know the girls quality. Figure it out and tell me.These girls are from Charkov, not Kiev!
Looks *definitely* too good to be true. Any feedback welcome though.
http://vipbabes.com.ua/index.php?lang=en&sort=by-age
I am posting this escort for who does not want to spend more then 60 dollar per hour. I do not know the girls quality. Figure it out and tell me.
AColonizer
11-13-10, 02:25
Just for curiosity, are you joking with me or did you forget to read all the forum?
http://vipbabes.com.ua/index.php?lang=en&sort=by-age
I am posting this escort for who does not want to spend more then 60 dollar per hour. I do not know the girls quality. Figure it out and tell me.
Just for curiosity, are you joking with me or did you forget to read all the forum?Both, no offensive feeling.
Both, no offensive feeling.When are you actually landing in KIEV?
Now you are full of condoms, sex toys & digits & info .
When are you actually landing in KIEV?
Now you are full of condoms, sex toys & digits & info .No toys. I am reducing my baggage I am going there middle of December
My only concern is weather now.
www.kievprivat.com is a good mid-market alternative to some of the other pricier Web sites like Gia. I used their services a few times. Quality of girls do vary, not too many 9s or 10s. Girls are less professional. Unlike Gia, girls' pictures on the site are much closer to reality...
Another option take away from Rio. You know what you are going to get. If you are a relatively good looking guy, the girls are likely to stay until next afternoon.
No toys. I am reducing my baggage I am going there middle of December
My only concern is weather now.
www.kievprivat.com is a good mid-market alternative to some of the other pricier Web sites like Gia. I used their services a few times. Quality of girls do vary, not too many 9s or 10s. Girls are less professional. Unlike Gia, girls' pictures on the site are much closer to reality...
Another option take away from Rio. You know what you are going to get. If you are a relatively good looking guy, the girls are likely to stay until next afternoon.They all look chubby.. compare to GIA and I can not see their faces.. without seeing their faces I rather order GIA girl...
A couple show their faces and have good bodies. It is worth a try. The GIa photos are real, but HEAVILY photoshopped. Some are still good, but make sure you add 5 to 10 years of "wear and tear" to anything you see.
ON a side note, Where is Rio? I have been in Kiev many times but this information has escaped me.
They all look chubby.. compare to GIA and I can not see their faces.. without seeing their faces I rather order GIA girl...
Rio the strip bar, Near Avalon? OK never mind. It did not register. I am not into strip bars. They are much better in North America and Europe. Regular bars in Kiev offer a much better selection for take-out and a cheaper prices.
They all look chubby.. compare to GIA and I can not see their faces.. without seeing their faces I rather order GIA girl...
http://uadreamescort.com/index.html 100USD or 80 Euro /hour
http://www.Kievescortangels.com/VIP 150 Euro/ hour (no good)
http://kievgirls.com.ua No price arranged. (call. Mis or hit)
http://kievindependentescorts.com 150 Euro/hour (no good)
http://best-Kiev-escort-agency.com 150 no good
http://escort-in-ukraine.com 150 no good
Vodka escort. 200 Euro for 3 hours possible.
http://www.Kiev-escort-models.com Most expansive escort site in Kiev.
200 Euro/2 hour (VIP) 420 Euro/ 2hr
http://bunniesofkiev.com 150E/hr no good
http://courtesansinukraine.com 150E/hr no good
http://minuet.biz/.no price arranged (hit or miss) I like
http://sexykievgirls.com Most expansive escort 200 Euro/hr
I want to try for 1 hour want to see
Those girl on the photo exist or not.
http://ukraineescortsguide.com 150 Euro/ hr no good
http://gia-escort.com 150 Euro/ hr Most American use.
http://www.Ladieskiev.com 200 USD/ hr
http://adultguidetoukraine.com 150 Euro / hr
http://interdevochki.com/en Price are cheap to 100 USD/hr
http://xmodel.com.ua Pirce varies
http://VIP-dosug.com Price varies
http://intimgirls.net Price varies
http://www.Kievescortguide.com 150 Euro/hr (no good)
http://www.Top-modals.com Price varies
AColonizer
12-27-10, 21:11
Dear Jeankim (and others),
I read a lot of masters' stories (100/200$ for an overnight) and I don't understand why men are continuing to pay those Western rates. . . I am not a good negotiator but I know 300$ for an overnight is a honest price for everyone (swallow blowjob and anal sex are the standard service). The monger's main purpose is not to fuck three holes but it is to fuck three holes at the lowest price possible.
http://uadreamescort.com/index.html
100USD or 80 Euro / hour.
http://www.Kievescortangels.com/VIP
150 Euro / hour (no good)
http://kievgirls.com.ua
No price arranged. (call. Mis or hit)
http://kievindependentescorts.com
150 Euro / hour (no good)
http://best-Kiev-escort-agency.com
150 no good.
http://escort-in-ukraine.com
150 no good.
Vodka escort. 200 Euro for 3 hours possible.
http://www.Kiev-escort-models.com
Most expansive escort site in Kiev.
200 Euro / 2 hour (VIP) 420 Euro / 2hr.
http://bunniesofkiev.com
150E / hr no good.
http://courtesansinukraine.com
150E / hr no good.
http://minuet.biz/
No price arranged (hit or miss) I like.
http://sexykievgirls.com
Most expansive escort 200 Euro / hr.
I want to try for 1 hour want to see.
Those girl on the photo exist or not.
http://ukraineescortsguide.com
150 Euro / hr no good.
http://gia-escort.com
150 Euro / hr Most American use.
http://www.Ladieskiev.com
200 USD / hr.
http://adultguidetoukraine.com
150 Euro / hr.
http://interdevochki.com/en
Price are cheap to 100 USD / hr.
http://xmodel.com.ua
Pirce varies.
http://VIP-dosug.com
Price varies.
http://intimgirls.net
Price varies.
http://www.Kievescortguide.com
150 Euro / hr (no good)
http://www.Top-modals.com
Price varies
No toys. I am reducing my baggage I am going there middle of December.
My only concern is weather now. Hi Jeankim.
Did you make it to Kiev?
Such a pity if you didn't, after all the Questions you asked. & the research you put into it.
I mean you are not withholding info. Or are you?
Hi Jeankim.
Did you make it to Kiev?
Such a pity if you didn't, after all the Questions you asked. & the research you put into it.
I mean you are not withholding info. Or are you? Someone said before,"Those who don't report haven't returned home.
Egypt Lover
02-04-11, 04:38
Hello Everybody,
I am planning to stay in Kiev for 10 days, I want really to have an erotic holiday, please advise how can I get pretty women in Kiev, I'm searching for all ages I mean from 18 to 35 years old, also how can I find massage centers that offer Happy Ending.
Is English language used there?
Best Regards
CallSign Papa
02-04-11, 06:18
Hello, Everybody,
I am planning to stay in Kiev for 10 days, I want really to have an erotic holiday, please advise how can I get pretty women in Kiev, I'm searching for all ages I mean from 18 to 35 years old, also how can I find massage centers that offer Happy Ending.
Is English language used there?
Best RegardsRead.
The.
F*cking.
Forum
Egypt Lover
02-04-11, 06:49
Dear Shadow,
I read the forum, well, it has a very useful information indeed about escort services, however, I don't want to get into the problem that all the people faced which is that you most likely don't get the girl you select from the escort sites, instead, they send you different girls.
Is there's any places there, I mean night clubs or sex clubs that will give the chance to choose and pick the girl I want.
Thanks for considering my post.
Regards,
Read.
The.
Fucking.
Forum
Someone said before,"Those who don't report haven't returned home.Someone else said before, Those who don't report haven't left Home.
WollyPetrov
02-05-11, 16:49
Hello, Everybody,
I am planning to stay in Kiev for 10 days, I want really to have an erotic holiday, please advise how can I get pretty women in Kiev, I'm searching for all ages I mean from 18 to 35 years old, also how can I find massage centers that offer Happy Ending.
Is English language used there?
Best RegardsIf you want to have an erotic holiday, get pretty women in Kiev click http://escort-models.com/en-index.html. All ages and English language used.
AColonizer
02-08-11, 17:18
Has anybody found an Ukrainian forum about prostitutes' performances?
For example, I have found:
http://forum.sexykiev.biz/forum6.html
But that is not detailed (at all)!
Me and You
02-10-11, 15:35
Hello friends,
Did anwybody tried this site girls. I think they are serious as I chated with the manger on Skype. What about Mia the Polish girl? Did anybody knows about?
Thanks
I am coming to Kiev soon.
Has anybody found an Ukrainian forum about prostitutes' performances?
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02-17-11, 17:45
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Vodka Escort: The Very Highest Prices. The Lowest Very Lowest Quality.
Our girls want to give you a Real Wife Experience- they lay back and don't move and then ask you for more money afterwards.
Our Motto: We will do everything to screw you out of all your money. Guys, stick with mamba or other sites such as real-models. The quality is the same, and more than likely, much better. More importantly, it will be for lots less money than you would get than using the services of this highly overpriced pimp.
Caribescort
02-18-11, 07:10
http://www.vodkaescort.com/gallery.php
Guys, stick with mamba or other sites such as real-models. The quality is the same, and more than likely, much better. More importantly, it will be for lots less money than you would get than using the services of this highly overpriced pimp.
Guys, stick with mamba or other sites such as real-models. The quality is the same, and more than likely, much better. More importantly, it will be for lots less money than you would get than using the services of this highly overpriced pimp.Any feedback on http://relaxportal.biz/? The prices are in line with real-models. Any feedback on the quality and whether the women match the pictures?
Caribescort
02-21-11, 12:35
The weather is cold.
So nNot many as many men are traveling to Kiev now.
The economy sucks here now.
So very many girls looking for very few men.
It is a Target Rich Environment now.
Think about coming to Kiev.
http://www.vodkaescort.com/
AColonizer
02-21-11, 22:14
I see vodka escorts and relax portal. The first one, too much photoshop and no service list (!). The second one, too many fake pictures (as well as everything else).
What to do? Phone all interesting girls, interview them, negotiate with them, be sure about their stability of character, otherwise take some time to decide: it is better to waste time only, instead to waste money and to be insatisfied too (a handjob helps a lot (smile).
I heard a group of Italians from my town was jailed for a day until they have paied 300 euros. I don't know how much it is true, anyway it seems police are hitting hard sex tourists.
First problem: how to discover a good sex provider? Phone, interview, kick her or try her, and a lot of luck and intuition.
For my experience, I have discovered a bunch of model-style prostitutes and, by luck, they were the cheapest and the piggest (and cultural interesting, who may concerned to). I mean hardcore prostitutes. I don't know why, but I haven't found satisfying freebies in Kiev yet (the opposite was in Moscow).
Second problem: how to keep a good sex provider? If you got everything in the first meeting, it is sure she provides less services or she asks for more money in the second or third meeting. Here we have to show all our abilities in negotiation. Or better, we should prepare our battle field in the first meeting, when everything seems to be good.
The weather is cold.
So nNot many as many men are traveling to Kiev now.
The economy sucks here now.
So very many girls looking for very few men.
It is a Target Rich Environment now.
Think about coming to Kiev.
http://www.vodkaescort.com/Vodka / Caribe is a serious scam. They post photos of girls they don't have and try to bring customers to Ukraine. And once the customers are in Ukraine, they say the girls are not available at the moment and recommend uglier girls they have available.
I can't wait for your smart-ass answer :) .
Caribescort, do you inform your models that their photographs will be used as escort publicity or do you simply deceive them and lie?
Any feedback on.
http://relaxportal.biz/
? The prices are in line with real-models. Any feedback on the quality and whether the women match the pictures? This seems to be top-modals. Com but in only Russian. I only checked it quick and it seems to be the same girls, and the girls flagged "real photo" in top-modals are flagged 100% here.
I have never tried this sites, but others in this forum have had mixed experience. Some good and som bad.
Life is never easy. .
Personal short update.
4 different women. All from mamba / flirt.
Happy with 2 encounters. Good & very good, girls pleasing attitude.
Unhappy with 2 encounters. 1 average looking & other completely different woman. With a massive gut!
Their was a fifth who brought a sixth. However the funds for time negotiated was misunderstood. & I was high on Russian Vodka so let it pass as we could not work an agreement, & was not the same lady or age however pleasnt enough.
Vodka / Caribe is a serious scam. They post photos of girls they don't have and try to bring customers to Ukraine. And once the customers are in Ukraine, they say the girls are not available at the moment and recommend uglier girls they have available.
I can't wait for your smart-ass answer.I did use vodka escort one time and will never use this agency again.
The girl I saw was the girl posted on their site but her photos on the sites were photo shopped really good, for example it did not show the scar on her belly from her C-section, she was also at least 10 years older than her photos on the web site, on the site she was in her 20's but in person she was in her 30's.
So my advice to all of you is do not use this agency.
Its best to go to strip or other clubs and see the girls in person
Vodka / Caribe is a serious scam. They post photos of girls they don't have and try to bring customers to Ukraine. And once the customers are in Ukraine, they say the girls are not available at the moment and recommend uglier girls they have available.
I can't wait for your smart-ass answer.Just look at Liza's photos on their site: http://www.vodkaescort.com/gallery.php?ank_num=72
I bet there is a good chance those 5 photos are from 3 different girls
Hello, friends,
Did anwybody tried this site girls. I think they are serious as I chated with the manger on Skype. What about Mia the Polish girl? Did anybody knows about?
Thanks.
I am coming to Kiev soon. Its a bait and switch agency, with a canadian pimp oddly enough. Hugely overpriced as well. Lowest we can get the girls was for 600 euros a night. After countless attempts trying to get her. Made every god damn lame excuse in the book to blow off the meetings. She even claimed at one point after arriving that the doorman of our apartments is her neighbor. Go figure in a city of 5 million inhabitants. Anyways, when she "finally" arrived, it ended up being a bait and switch. So we just opened the door took a look at her and shut the door again. No questions asked or complains. Seems they are used to this type of treatment. So yeah, moral of the story. It seems that there isn't a SINGLE website in Ukraine that uses real photos, not even mumba. After speaking to a couple of girls, they explained that noone puts real photos even if they were beautiful because of "reputation" issues. Éveryone and her mother is a working girl, yet they all like to play the goodie tissue game it seems LOL.
However, if you "MUST" use an agency, I would recommend top-modals. Com, it seems many of the girls in that website are 6-7+, however, be warned that there is still a 99% chance of the photos being fake, so I would disregard the photos altogether and just phone randomly and try to figure out in the phone conversation if it is going to be a good shag or not.
I will write a full 12 day report on me experience once I get back home to Dubai!
Its a bait and switch agency, with a canadian pimp oddly enough.Maybe not that unusual.
Was it not some Canadian "entrepreneurs" that started the whole marriage scam business in Lugansk and Kherson all those years ago?
Or is old Gergiev's memory playing tricks?
VG.
Super6stud9
06-13-11, 00:32
It's hard to finf boards with reviews. You can use google chrrome to translate automatically.
Has anybody found an Ukrainian forum about prostitutes' performances?
For example, I have found:
http://forum.sexykiev.biz/forum6.html
But that is not detailed (at all)!
Lucatroni69
06-13-11, 16:21
Hi there,
Anybody tried this escort:http://www.vip-alexandra.com/
Thanks for info
ErickMorsa
06-13-11, 20:08
Hi there,
Anybody tried this.
escort:http://www.vip-alexandra.com/
Thanks for infoI have tryed several times to cntact her, first by mail and she answerd, then by phone and never asked telephon.
Who knows!
I have tryed several times to cntact her, first by mail and she answerd, then by phone and never asked telephon.
Who knows! May be you can try to contact Victoria's Secret, she's one of their favorite model :P
AColonizer
06-23-11, 21:15
Reviews should be the main subject in a sex guide!
You have talked about Chrome, and in this moment Google, Facebook and Superfish are some of the biggest problems in the world. You think: Google decides what is the "good" information for our search and it is not a neutral search engine anymore; Facebook collects information (also IP address and geographical locations) about billions of people; Superfish (who knows Superfish?) is a hidden supervision of our browser and visited sites.
Sincerely, I don't like to be spied. Sincerely, I don't like multinationals decide what is "good" for my life!
It's hard to finf boards with reviews. You can use google chrrome to translate automatically.
AColonizer
06-23-11, 22:03
The same for Italy, Ukrainians of some years ago (now they are banned, but not Romanians too unfortunately!) made very high quality services for lower prices than in Kiev. So I can't understand the reason the best Ukrainians go abroad to earn less money than in Kiev: the spirit of adventure or the typical Slavic craziness?
The problem in Kiev is "agencies" are Western-oriented, they are managered by Westerns and they work with a Western style. Why can I say that? Because Ukrainians in Italy worked in the same way I have found in one of the last "old school" agency in Odessa / Kiev, in both cases pimps were Slavic (and not Western European). Instead, each time I hear "I work with condom only", I am sure that agency is managered by a Western who wants to take our money with no service (in the perfect Western style of our women).
Please, don't talk about pornstar experience. First of all, because 90% of porn movies are politically correct and they don't show the art of sex but they represent what (political, economical, religious) rulers want we think about sex. I have already written in the most important forum about porn movies, that's incredible how men accept to see ridicolous scenes in which blowjobs are handjobs in the reality, anal sex is not a must, multiple fistings and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drinking seem to be criminal offenses. You think, I haven't still seen a perfect Slavic deepthroat swallow blowjob in 200 porn scenes!
She was a little older in real person, she states in her ad that she is 20 yo (probably the time when she took those photos) but she is actually about 24 yo but still very nice to enjoy, she was truly PSE (BBBJ to CIM, anal, spanking, DFK, DATY, MSOG, titfucking).
What really surprised me at the begging of our session is that she said she was studying Spanish (and also working as a pro) in Buenos Aires before going to Mexico City to work as a pro there as well. I had my doubts so in order to confirm or unmask her true nationality I've asked her to speak (and fuck) in Russian only during our session and yes she passed the test in an excellent way.
For some unknown reason the Ukrainian pros I've met in Mexico City provided a better service than the few Russian pro's I've saw there. I am attaching photos of a Russian lady I saw there, despite I love blondishkas the service was not nearly as good as the Ukrainian lady I've described above.
I looked around for a vcation this summer in KIEV or ODESSA (mainly KIEV).
I looked around for apartaments and escorts as I usually do in these cases.
Are these prices and girls true?
http://relaxportal.biz/eng/devushki/kiev/anketa-1871/
http://escort-models.com/en/models/weight:45-50/sort:age:asc/
AColonizer
06-25-11, 18:49
Since you are a beginner and you are Italian too, I strongly suggest to study Moldavia and Ukraine forum. It means you have to read a lot of reports.
And before going to Moldavia, you have to practise in Italy with Romanian girls through an exam: if you receive deepthroath swallow blowjob, and you give anal sex with or without condom, double anal fisting and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drinking, everything at a rate 100 euros / first hour at maximum, only after you are ready to go to East European countries. You won't find easier in East European countries than in Italy.
Un amico.
I looked around for a vcation this summer in KIEV or ODESSA (mainly KIEV).
I looked around for apartaments and escorts as I usually do in these cases.
Are these prices and girls true?
http://relaxportal.biz/eng/devushki/kiev/anketa-1871/
http://escort-models.com/en/models/weight:45-50/sort:age:asc/
Are these prices and girls true?
http://relaxportal.biz/eng/devushki/kiev/anketa-1871/
http://escort-models.com/en/models/weight:45-50/sort:age:asc/It could be true. Of course, I live by the motto that if it looks too good to be true, it always is. However, I think that what "looks too good to be true" here is not the low prices but rather the pretence that the girls are upmarket. Let me be blunt: I met one of the girls from the second site yesterday in Brussels. She works the windows at the Gare du Nord station. 40E per pop. 50E for change of position. I took her for 1/2 hours, which set me back 100E. The service was correct, with plenty of DATY and some kissing (without toungue) , but not in any way remarkable. Apparently, when she's back in Kiev she charges 90 dollars per hour for the same.
Here she is: http://escort-models.com/en/girls/escorte-call-girl/ukrainian/diana_7.html. She even works in Brussels under the same name. Diana.
Member #4491
06-27-11, 00:54
I looked around for a vcation this summer in KIEV or ODESSA (mainly KIEV).
I looked around for apartaments and escorts as I usually do in these cases.
Are these prices and girls true?
http://relaxportal.biz/eng/devushki/kiev/anketa-1871/
http://escort-models.com/en/models/weight:45-50/sort:age:asc/Magico, try the TinyEye image search plug in and you can at least see if the images are reused on a lot of sites.
I made a search on this pretty girl and found out she is liked by many. 16 sites have the same image.
http://escort-models.com/en/girls/escort-agency/kiev/anzhelochka_626.html
16 occurrences says nothing in itself, but if you look at the pages where the images are used, you can at least make some sort of qualified guess about how real the profile really is.
Good luck and please report back, even if most guys that hangs here seems to know just about every little rock of Kiev.
Barba
It could be true. Of course, I live by the motto that if it looks too good to be true, it always isYes I understand and agree, for example this:
http://www.slavic-lady.com/models.html
Also if I don't know KIEV area and habits I "SUSPECT" that is a fake.
Truman Venice
06-30-11, 12:54
Hello, Barba, would you let me know your opinion on these four Kiev beauty? Fake or might they be real?
Yes, I overall look for brunettes.
Thanks.
http://interdevochki.com/en/gallery/232/
http://interdevochki.com/en/gallery/96/
http://www.top-modals.com/?id=865
http://minuet.biz/girl/5950
Magico, try the TinyEye image search plug in and you can at least see if the images are reused on a lot of sites.
I made a search on this pretty girl and found out she is liked by many. 16 sites have the same image.
http://escort-models.com/en/girls/escort-agency/kiev/anzhelochka_626.html
16 occurrences says nothing in itself, but if you look at the pages where the images are used, you can at least make some sort of qualified guess about how real the profile really is.
Good luck and please report back, even if most guys that hangs here seems to know just about every little rock of Kiev.
Barba
Member #4491
07-01-11, 02:17
Hello, Barba, would you let me know your opinion on these four Kiev beauty? Fake or might they be real?No idea of they are real or fake but a quick search on the first pic of each set might suggest that you do a little bit of investigations before you pay the deposit. .
Present on 82 other web pages.
http://interdevochki.com/en/gallery/232/
Present on 1 other web page.
http://interdevochki.com/en/gallery/96/
Present on 4 other web pages and 11 for another pic in the set.
http://www.top-modals.com/?id=865
Present on 9 other web pages.
http://minuet.biz/girl/5950
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Truman Venice
07-01-11, 18:22
God, this means anything fake, am I right? I anyway supposed it. Thanks, of course. I don't guess getting a total 9 or 10, I can stay well with 7 or 8; fact is I don't want being blind during mongering, in Kiev overall, you understand? City is totally new to me.
Any suggestion?
No idea of they are real or fake but a quick search on the first pic of each set might suggest that you do a little bit of investigations before you pay the deposit. .
Present on 82 other web pages.
http://interdevochki.com/en/gallery/232/
Present on 1 other web page.
http://interdevochki.com/en/gallery/96/
Present on 4 other web pages and 11 for another pic in the set.
http://www.top-modals.com/?id=865
Present on 9 other web pages.
http://minuet.biz/girl/5950
B
Member #4491
07-01-11, 22:03
God, this means anything fake, am I right? I anyway supposed it. Thanks, of course. I don't guess getting a total 9 or 10, I can stay well with 7 or 8; fact is I don't want being blind during mongering, in Kiev overall, you understand? City is totally new to me.
Any suggestion?I can not give you any advice on Kiev. I was there only once and only visited River Palace that is now closed. And naturally a lot of other interesting sites, but these where non mongering related POI:s.
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AColonizer
07-22-11, 15:48
I mean: read this forum. I mean: if you go to Kiev (and anywhere outside Italy) , without practise with local Slavics, then you are sure to get a "pirla" figure. I mean: if you are ready to pay 100/200 dollars per hour for a condomed pussy fucking, then you stay in Italy and you save a lot of money. I mean: if you are not used to fierce negotiate (as 99% Italians) , then you haven't to go to prostitutes (road prostitutes, flat prostitutes, hotel prostitutes,"escort" prostitutes are prostitutes at the same way). Capito?
Forgive me Acolonizer but I'm not sure of what I understood.
I didn't understand the relation between Italian and Ukraine.
I have to say that I'm only looking for escort and not for free girls.
I saw these ads and I asked if those prices and services are real or are fakes
Toptraveler1
08-07-11, 13:55
I heard that they will open a boat like RP soon, but biger! Maybe in next few months.
You talk often about different clubs but you never mention your own experience with one lady. It could be very useful to all, if you mention the name of the lady.
Thanks
AColonizer
08-08-11, 13:10
I strongly hope men don't await for something similar to River Palace for their "hunting" because River Palace was a just tourist attraction "for the eyes" and I have never got a good attitude and a honest price, except for some "girls" already known outside.
My best deals were by Mamba sites but Mamba sites were very different four years ago. In my opinion, now Mamba sites are full of "girls" with the same (or worse) attitude of girls in River Palace.
It has become difficult to find a beautiful freebie or P4P for a honest price. For an experienced monger, a honest price means 300 dollars / 12 hours or for all day / mouth, pussy, ass without condom (this is the basic service). Therefore, when men pay more than 300$ in gifts or in money, then they should understand they are paying more or much more than in their own country (keep in mind prices of flights, accommodations, transfers, foods, etc.).
Men should understand to practise what they read in this forum before leaving their own country. Instead, this forum is read by prostitutes much more than customers, and this is a reason because "commonly asked prices" are increased instead of decreased.
I heard that they will open a boat like RP soon, but biger! Maybe in next few months.
You talk often about different clubs but you never mention your own experience with one lady. It could be very useful to all, if you mention the name of the lady.
Thanks
I mean: read this forum. I mean: if you go to Kiev (and anywhere outside Italy) , without practise with local Slavics, then you are sure to get a "pirla" figure. I mean: if you are ready to pay 100/200 dollars per hour for a condomed pussy fucking, then you stay in Italy and you save a lot of money. I mean: if you are not used to fierce negotiate (as 99% Italians) , then you haven't to go to prostitutes (road prostitutes, flat prostitutes, hotel prostitutes,"escort" prostitutes are prostitutes at the same way). Capito?True & well funny put, haha! Theres no substitue for experience. Except a little theory or knowledge pointing you in the right directions.
100-200 euros you can bang hot girls everywhere. If I was interested in parlour "massage". Thats 4-5 different girls in cost to pop with condom. 30 minute session. Around my area of living.
Does anyone know why the website is down?
Does anyone know why the website is down?Vodkaescort. Com
Vodkaescort. ComHello, All, I place this message here because seems in the Dnipropeztrovsk section not updated. Who knows in this city Escorts or Private with real phone numbers and update. I look for young student type gilrs or private. Your help is welcome
Diablito208
10-10-11, 04:00
Has anyone tried this agency?
http://bunniesofkiev.com/
Are the girls real? Let me know.
AColonizer
11-19-11, 14:26
You should read this forum and read posts by masters since two years ago.
The reply is easy: NO, that is not reliable. Because it is in English and not in Russian, there is the Punterlink logo, pictures are fake, prices are absurde also for country like Italy, services are low quality.
Has anyone tried this agency?
http://bunniesofkiev.com/
Are the girls real? Let me know.
AColonizer
11-19-11, 14:30
Did anybody find a site with a good probability to meet piggish girls?
Did anybody find one or two good contacts?
Snoepveter
11-23-11, 13:44
Hi. I am invited by an Ukrainian girlfriend and now I have an account to vkontakt. Ru or vk. Com.
I understand that vkontakt. Ru you only can have access when invited. But this website is very poplular in Ukraine (and Russia) and has the same purpose as facebook. I have seen there is a lot of information about escorts etc. Also. Also there are lot of girls open for contact with men. The advantage is that the escort agencies are being judged and commented by russians also. So more inside information.
Anyone has experience using this vkontakt site? I am trying to get into it more and will see what happens. If anyone has experience, please let me know!
Snoepveter
11-26-11, 02:53
When in ukraina I just phoned the number on the web and I got an sms with pw to access.
Where is the problem.The problem is people didn't know. Now they know. Duhhh!
Crown Comfort
11-26-11, 22:42
Anyone has experience using this vkontakt site? I am trying to get into it more and will see what happens. If anyone has experience, please let me know!Hi Guys,
While we are at it, can anyone say something about connect-dot-ua? Seems a very interesting site and I can imagine to make good contacts here? It's a bit awkward with Google Translate if you don't speak Russian, but there is a large amount of hot Ukrianian girls on this page. Any advice on this page?
Kiev Freak
12-18-11, 10:49
Hi guys, do you know these sites are real and reliable?
http://sexykievgirls.com/ladies-kiev-escort.html
http://escort-models.com
http://gia-escort.com
What do you think? I will make some reservations but I don't want to lose my money.
Thanks
AColonizer
12-20-11, 05:00
No, don't reserve because it is stupid. All those sites are for foreigners and rates are for Western world, it is sure they are managered by Western-European or USA businessmen who want to cheat their own co-citizens. Prepare a long list of places and phone numbers and use it when you are in Kiev. Be aware, I am reading some reports here made by those businessmen camouflaged as mongers: any bastard things is good for a good business! Be aware, the sexual market is inflated (high prices, little sex) because there are too many Western businessmen, otherwise the past local brothels would still be.
Hi guys, do you know these sites are real and reliable?
http://sexykievgirls.com/ladies-kiev-escort.html
http://escort-models.com
http://gia-escort.com
What do you think? I will make some reservations but I don't want to lose my money.
Thanks
Blue Swede
01-02-12, 22:40
Hi guys, do you know these sites are real and reliable?
http://sexykievgirls.com/ladies-kiev-escort.html
http://escort-models.com
http://gia-escort.com
What do you think? I will make some reservations but I don't want to lose my money.
ThanksReliable? I think at least one of these are trying to cheat:
http://escort-models.com/girls/intim-dosug/kiev/olesya_2167.html
http://www.hot-collection.co.uk/escort/adriana
But I'm not saying all are fake, some photos looks more reliable that others.
Blue
. I will make some reservations but I don't want to lose my money.Hi, nobody wants to have a rip-off, so this is a legit concern. Many years ago when I was new to mongering and escorts were begining to have private home-pages, I sent money to a private 'courtesan' in Italy, she had very nice photos (too good to be true) , but I never heard from her again. Since that I never send advance payment for the first meeting, except in the form of an e-ticket if necessary. Putting down money for travel in advance is IMHO enough confirmation of the seriousness of the reservation. This is my rule for a first date. When trust has been established after one or more meetings, then maybe some present can be sent, for the individual or the agency. I really don't see the necessity of advance payment, the risk of a rip-off is to big. So basically, if an agency or individual asks for this, I think they are very llikely to be fake. They will try to deny this, but I would like to know if an experienced monger (senior member of ISG) is of other opinion.
About these sites mentioned I have no comment to make. RB
What is it like in Kiev in February? Thanks.
Cheers.
Crown Comfort
01-06-12, 23:07
Hi Guys,
While we are at it, can anyone say something about connect-dot-ua? Seems a very interesting site and I can imagine to make good contacts here? It's a bit awkward with Google Translate if you don't speak Russian, but there is a large amount of hot Ukrianian girls on this page. Any advice on this page?Friends:
I guess I can share now some of my views on connect. Ua. I have been playing around with it for around 4 weeks now. It's rather hard if your Russian is as limited as mine, but it's kind of fun.
My assessment is that it's something in between Mamba (directory of semi-pro's, hit & miss) and vkontakte (social network for everyone).
The main purpose seems to be some flirting / contact page between man and woman. There are some semi-pro's on this page but not many and they often refer to another profile they have on more obvious webpages. In my experience, the majority of the girls are real with genuine photos. Most women are young and decent looking but you also have some old dogs of course.
Similar to Mamba it likes to extort money from you for things like VIP membership, raising your profile, ability to do certain things. You can however collect a virtual currency (connectors) if you're being online or complete some actions.
Anyways, in these 4 weeks, I have exchanged messages with more than 200 girls, some trivial, like 'great picture' (rating other users picture is a main thing to do and for making first contact) to some decent English conversations with good-looking students. What's important I think is that your own profile appears genuine and that you have some decent pictures of yourself. That will make it easier to get the attention of the girls worth getting attention from.
So my verdict, it's not a bad place to make contacts for some first meetings / coffee and then see what could develop. I would not use this webpage to look for semi-pro's or pro's. There are better options. My biggest issue is that I'm not in Ukraine right now, so this is like swimming on land at the moment but still good fun.
What is it like in Kiev in February? Thanks.
Cheers.#Could be zero, could be. 25 degrees.
#Could be zero, could be. 25 degrees.Zero to minus 25.
Hello,
I come in hotel in room and make 2 hour massage and in the end quick sex but I need high money for this service.
CityHunter77
01-19-12, 18:28
Hello,
I come in hotel in room and make 2 hour massage and in the end quick sex but I need high money for this service.Do you have any photos?
Do you have any photos?Jes I have it but I make it not here in Forum
Hello,
I come in hotel in room and make 2 hour massage and in the end quick sex but I need high money for this service.Quick sex and high money? This seems to me like very bad value. My exprerience screams at me "scammer! Run away!"
Quick sex and high money? This seems to me like very bad value. My exprerience screams at me "scammer! Run away!"You not eaven ask me how many I want?
Jes I have it but I make it not here in ForumDear Ella if you don't post phtos here? Where? And why your message here and not elsewhere?
Dear Ella if you don't post phtos here? Where? And why your message here and not elsewhere?Her you can see me http://mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=731950772
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02-01-12, 12:28
Please, nothing American or Western. We want sex. We don't want to waste our money.
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OMG ella. How could you ask "high money 4 quick sex" and then post this profile.
Dave Carrera
02-21-12, 00:49
http://escort-models.com/en/models/sort:price:asc/
Seems too good to be. Anybody ever use this?
Global Surfer
03-08-12, 02:23
http://escort-models.com/en/models/sort:price:asc/
Seems too good to be. Anybody ever use this?Site and prices are real but the pictures are fake. Most of them cannot speak English.
Receptionist generally can speak English or probably get someone who can speak English.
She will be helpfull enough to get you one who can speak a little (I mean little) English.
Mostly you will get average quality and service. Sometime you can be really lucky.
Enjoy
Folks,
Any recommendation in term of escort agency in Kiev?
Anything else then GIA?
Where has VodkaEscort gone?
Disappeared or renamed?
Slavophile
04-05-12, 18:59
Gentlemen,
Dave Carrera asked about this site http://escort-models.com/en/models/sortrice:asc/ And I am not so certain.
At least two of the girls advertised as escorts are known soft core big tit models, Maria Swan and the other Anya Sakova.
If you click on the bust size you fancy for a search. 6 and 4 I think you'll see.
Bust size 6, click on Annet and she looks to me like Anya Sakova. Maybe they escort under different names, but it's hard to believe, considering if they went to London they could ask for much more than 80 Euros an hour.
Click on bust size 4 and the girl named Sveta looks like Maria Swan. Again, I could be mistaken. They could very well be escorting under different names.
What do you gentlemen think? Am I wrong or are these girls just "look a likes"?
If they are the girls in the picture then I'll pack my bags for Kiev tomorrow.
Slavophile
Member #4491
04-06-12, 00:19
Gentlemen,
Dave Carrera asked about this site.
http://escort-models.com/en/models/sortrice:asc/
And I am not so certain.Amazing girls but at least some are to good to be true.
http://www.tineye.com/search/feaeb6455deadb925433c587c54763b6c13b57f4/
Global Surfer, quality of service set aside. Did you ever find girl there with racks like any of the 5 or 6 girls? Amazingly gifted girls in these pictures.
Barba
Slavophile
04-06-12, 07:57
Barba,
I agree these girls are indeed "blessed". However, that is not the issue. This might be a clear case of false advertising. Meaning they simply used fake pics of well known models, which was a bit silly on their part in order to draw in business.
I am almost certain those girls advertised as escorts are the soft core big tit models Maria Swan and Anya Sakova.
Again, unless I severely mistaken and they escort under different names. If that's the case bless them both and I'll see them soon.
Slavophile.
Amazing girls but at least some are to good to be true.
http://www.tineye.com/search/feaeb6455deadb925433c587c54763b6c13b57f4/
Global Surfer, quality of service set aside. Did you ever find girl there with racks like any of the 5 or 6 girls? Amazingly gifted girls in these pictures.
Barba
Amazing girls but at least some are to good to be true.
http://www.tineye.com/search/feaeb6455deadb925433c587c54763b6c13b57f4/
Global Surfer, quality of service set aside. Did you ever find girl there with racks like any of the 5 or 6 girls? Amazingly gifted girls in these pictures.
Barba.
This is how I would deal with them.
Phone the Agency, and tell them to send the same girl on their site as shown with her pictures.
If they send an old dog, just send her back with nothing. It means they are really taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
But if they send someone who looks nice and resembles a little bit the girl in the pictures, then its a deal for me, if the price is right. If the girl is OK, but not 4 your liking, send her back with a taxi fare of 50Uah, just to stay on good terms with agency for future bookings, and to establish a track record.
Once I came across a stunner such as the above. Phoned escorts-models. Com, and booked her.
Waited & waited for her, and no show. Phoned them, and they told me she was on her way, more waiting. When I phoned back, I was told, its already late, and I should go over to her Apartment out of the centre of Kiev.
My reply. Fuck Off.
Member #4491
04-11-12, 04:23
Barba,
I agree these girls are indeed "blessed". However, that is not the issue. This might be a clear case of false advertising. Meaning they simply used fake pics of well known models, which was a bit silly on their part in order to draw in business.No shit, Sherlock (blink smiley). I suggest anyone in doubt to use Tineye. Either web or plugin. My message should be read in the light of finding some 8-10 occurrences of the first model I tried (the link expired now).
I fully agree that if there are lookalikes with similar mega mammies ready to be sucked, this site is instantly forgiven for their fraud. We need someone who investigates this.
B.
Gentlemem.
Let us be a little realistic here. For instance, the photos on this profile:
http://escort-models.com/en/girls/escort-independent/kiev/karina_2131.html
Are those of Victoria Secret model Miranda Kerr.
You might have a better chance to get the girl in the photo if, for example, you order this girl:
http://escort-models.com/en/girls/escort/ukraine/lika_778.html
Just look at the photos. If they are photos of a typical pretty Ukrainian girl with a dingy apartment on the background, then they might actually be real. However, even if you are cautious, you will be perfectly adequate and completely unsatisfactory replacements or pinch hitters. I have not been there in nearly 5 months, but my policy was to tell them that if the girl was not real, I would send her back with no money. Like others suggest, if the girl was adequate, I was willing to keep her. However, I also ordered up to 5 girls at once, at 30 minute intervals. First come first served. I figure they have wasted my time many times, and usually girls are 15-20 minutes late anyway. And if two girls arrive at more or or less the same time, you just choose the best one.
Did anyone had any experience with this agency?
http://escort-models.com/
Or http://www.top-modals.com/
AColonizer
08-02-12, 16:40
Everybody knows those ones, it is the worst idea to go to East Europe with the Western mindset: if men are not good at bargaining with women, please, please, please stay at home (for your own health).
It should be right if people say which prostitutes they have tried, which real prices, which real services, which addresses. All the rest actually doesn't make sense.
Did anyone had any experience with this agency?
http://escort-models.com/
Or.
http://www.top-modals.com/
Did anyone had any experience with this agency?
http://escort-models.com/
Or.
http://www.top-modals.com/First hit on escort-models. Com didn't look good: Saw this featured girl: ksyusha.
http://escort-models.com/girls/shlyuhi/kiev/ksyusha_91.html
A quick check on TinEye shows that's actually a pornstar named Felicia Fey. Checked a few out and the hits were all over the place. I don't doubt there are hotties there, but as always don't believe what you see.
The second link yielded no duplicate images, so perhaps a better source.
Remember kids, TinEye.
http://www.tineye.com
Is your friend!
I could not see any models gallery in the link you shared. How can I see about particular model?
NYC escorts (http://wildmodelsnyc.com)
.
Once I came across a stunner such as the above. Phoned escorts-models. Com, and booked her.
Waited & waited for her, and no show. Phoned them, and they told me she was on her way, more waiting. When I phoned back, I was told, its already late, and I should go over to her Apartment out of the centre of Kiev.
My reply. Fuck Off.I am always wondering what they gain from this. Maybe one in 100 will go to the apartment and will be ripped off to count for the other 99?
Global Surfer
08-13-12, 12:57
Did anyone had any experience with this agency?
http://escort-models.com/
Or.
http://www.top-modals.com/don't't trust the pictures however, at the sametime your guest may not be that bad either. Receptionist generally can speak a little bit English and most like will send someone who can speak a little bit English.
In most cases little bit means little bit. If you are not very selective then this probably a cheap option in Kiev. Nothing exceptional about service either.
You may also try Mamba but again do trust the pictures. In my case one out of three was better than the picture and other tow were ok.
I was in Kiev several times and met with different girls, but I didn't like them much, most girls from the agencies are fake.
Month ago my friend recommended me one girl, which is really high class escort and real model and she is really gorgeus, so if somebody wants really beautiful girl you can ask I can give you her e-mail and I found her on this website www.mafia-escort.com My friend met one brunnette from there and she was also pretty and liked sex.
Gentlemen, I want to say, if you want really beautiful girl and spend a great time it cost of course not 100$, for this price you will find the worst girls.
I was in Kiev several times and met with different girls, but I didn't like them much, most girls from the agencies are fake.
Month ago my friend recommended me one girl, which is really high class escort and real model and she is really gorgeus, so if somebody wants really beautiful girl you can ask I can give you her e-mail and I found her on this website.
www.mafia-escort.com
My friend met one brunnette from there and she was also pretty and liked sex.
Gentlemen, I want to say, if you want really beautiful girl and spend a great time it cost of course not 100$, for this price you will find the worst girls.For such Mafia prices as above, there is no need to go to KIEV. You can get them in LONDON or any Western city. And in a lot of cases even miuch cheaper.
US$100 an hour should be the maximum in KIEV. For this price and less I had great girls in KIEV.
I was in Kiev several times and met with different girls, but I didn't like them much, most girls from the agencies are fake.
Month ago my friend recommended me one girl, which is really high class escort and real model and she is really gorgeus, so if somebody wants really beautiful girl you can ask I can give you her e-mail and I found her on this website.
www.mafia-escort.com
My friend met one brunnette from there and she was also pretty and liked sex.
Gentlemen, I want to say, if you want really beautiful girl and spend a great time it cost of course not 100$, for this price you will find the worst girls.You are quite correct in calling your site Mafia Escort. It is most appropriate and describes your business model exactly.
The extortionate rate is beyond comprehension. Yours is a site for very very stupid men who want to be robbed blind by prices beyond belief and with fake photos. None of these girls will show up if you call them. It is a huge scam.
Bob, good luck if you think that the guys who read this forum will actually believe anything you say and then use your site.
DoctorOral
08-15-12, 22:33
http://mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=750609704&hit=3 Where is she? Changed her number.
You are quite correct in calling your site Mafia Escort. It is most appropriate and describes your business model exactly.
The extortionate rate is beyond comprehension. Yours is a site for very very stupid men who want to be robbed blind by prices beyond belief and with fake photos. None of these girls will show up if you call them. It is a huge scam.
Bob, good luck if you think that the guys who read this forum will actually believe anything you say and then use your site..
If anyone knows about uncovering scams and BS in the Ukraine and on the Kiev Thread its has got to be UKe Boy.
Clearly in this case he has shown us that Bob's Not Our Uncle.
Mike Hunter666
09-06-12, 16:36
Guys, I spend a lot of time in Ukraine, especially in Kiev and on my experience convinced all escorts agency and all sites like http://www.escort-models.com, http://www.uadosug.com/en, http://www.sexkieva.com/en/ Fake photos 90% Search International sites: fire-escort, girl-directory t. E. It is first row in google they care about the reputation and postings escorts especially if the photo girl have marked "verified". I have some expirience in Kiev with one escort girl, and of course;. (it was not that girl in the photo, but at first look I liked she a lot and I decided to leave her. After 10 minutes of talking to her, it was a horror, she not speak english, was angry, not educated, in sex like a cold fish, in finally I forgot about come with her. After this I write comments on the site and her photo was deleted. I hope this teach her in future. And of course, remind her that if her photo is not 100% real, you will not be with her. So, now I know very well this business. And even already have some permanent professional Escort girls. I sure, good professional prostitute will never be cost less $150-200 per hour. Professional girl will do for you all you've dreamed of, it can be a smart, well know English or even several language, and know how to behave, with it not a shame to go into sociaty looks elegant. Prices for services are available, I have been in many countries and the price of Western Europe is 2-3 times higher, not say about US or UAE.
Guys, I spend a lot of time in Ukraine. So, now I know very well this business. And even already have some permanent professional Escort girls. I sure, good professional prostitute will never be cost less $150-200 per hour. Professional girl will do for you all you've dreamed of, it can be a smart, well know English or even several language, and know how to behave, with it not a shame to go into sociaty looks elegant. Prices for services are available, I have been in many countries and the price of Western Europe is 2-3 times higher, not say about US or UAE.Not less than US$150.US$200 an hour? In Ukraine.
They can fuck themselves (The Prostitues) for that price.
Don't p lay such prices there.
Guys, I spend a lot of time in Ukraine, especially in Kiev and on my experience convinced all escorts agency and all sites like.
http://www.escort-models.com
http://www.uadosug.com/en
http://www.sexkieva.com/en/
Fake photos 90% Search International sites: fire-escort, girl-directory t. E. It is first row in google they care about the reputation and postings escorts especially if the photo girl have marked "verified". I have some expirience in Kiev with one escort girl, and of course; . (it was not that girl in the photo, but at first look I liked she a lot and I decided to leave her. After 10 minutes of talking to her, it was a horror, she not speak english, was angry, not educated, in sex like a cold fish, in finally I forgot about come with her. After this I write comments on the site and her photo was deleted. I hope this teach her in future. And of course, remind her that if her photo is not 100% real, you will not be with her. So, now I know very well this business. And even already have some permanent professional Escort girls. I sure, good professional prostitute will never be cost less $150-200 per hour. Professional girl will do for you all you've dreamed of, it can be a smart, well know English or even several language, and know how to behave, with it not a shame to go into sociaty looks elegant. Prices for services are available, I have been in many countries and the price of Western Europe is 2-3 times higher, not say about US or UAE.BTW I don't think you are a Hunter Either, more like a Bait.
And a bad Bait as well.
Mike Hunter666
09-07-12, 10:33
Not less than US$150. US$200 an hour? In Ukraine.
They can fuck themselves (The Prostitues) for that price.
Don't p lay such prices there.
Check it
http://www.fire-escorts.com
http://www.girl-directory.com/easter.
http://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Ukraine/
http://www.escortdirectory.com/escorts-kiev-140-6
http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/ukraine
If you think that my words are bullshit. A free cheese only in mouse trap. I was in some clubs Kiev Carribian, Avalon, Vodka bar and that cheap cheeks who get drunk and what then could be having sex with her. I remember River Palace prostitute there were good, but it was in the past, it has long time a go losed. But I'm tired of hunting, a lot easier to call it to my room.
Not less than US$150. US$200 an hour? In Ukraine.
They can fuck themselves (The Prostitues) for that price.
Don't p lay such prices there.
Check it.
http://www.fire-escorts.com
http://www.girl-directory.com/easter.
http://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Ukraine/
http://www.escortdirectory.com/escorts-kiev-140-6
http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/ukraine
If you think that my words are bullshit. A free cheese only in mouse trap. I was in some clubs Kiev Carribian, Avalon, Vodka bar and that cheap cheeks who get drunk and what then could be having sex with her. I remember River Palace prostitute there were good, but it was in the past, it has long time a go losed. But I'm tired of hunting, a lot easier to call it to my room.Been there, Fucked The girls, Got the T Shirt.
Never paid, would never pay more than US$100. And this being generous at times.
Anyone paying more must be Flawed in more ways than one.
Next?
http://www.fire-escorts.com
http://www.girl-directory.com/easter.
http://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Ukraine/
http://www.escortdirectory.com/escorts-kiev-140-6
http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/ukraine
If you think that my words are bullshit. A free cheese only in mouse trap. I was in some clubs Kiev Carribian, Avalon, Vodka bar and that cheap cheeks who get drunk and what then could be having sex with her. I remember River Palace prostitute there were good, but it was in the past, it has long time a go losed. But I'm tired of hunting, a lot easier to call it to my room.To refresh your memory.
River Palace" Prostitutes" were asking for Us$100 and less an Hour.
US$200 or US$ 300 for 2 or 3 hours, sometimes for even longer.
I was getting good prices from them at happy hours times next day.
NEXT?
Not less than US$150. US$200 an hour? In Ukraine.
They can fuck themselves (The Prostitues) for that price.
Don't p lay such prices there.
Check it.
http://www.fire-escorts.com
http://www.girl-directory.com/easter.
http://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Ukraine/
http://www.escortdirectory.com/escorts-kiev-140-6
http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/ukraine
If you think that my words are bullshit. A free cheese only in mouse trap. I was in some clubs Kiev Carribian, Avalon, Vodka bar and that cheap cheeks who get drunk and what then could be having sex with her. I remember River Palace prostitute there were good, but it was in the past, it has long time a go losed. But I'm tired of hunting, a lot easier to call it to my room.River Palace Prostitutes were US$100 and less an HOUR.
Not less than US$150. US$200 an hour? In Ukraine.
They can fuck themselves (The Prostitues) for that price.
Don't p lay such prices there.
Check it.
http://www.fire-escorts.com
http://www.girl-directory.com/easter.
http://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Ukraine/
http://www.escortdirectory.com/escorts-kiev-140-6
http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/ukraine
If you think that my words are bullshit. A free cheese only in mouse trap. I was in some clubs Kiev Carribian, Avalon, Vodka bar and that cheap cheeks who get drunk and what then could be having sex with her. I remember River Palace prostitute there were good, but it was in the past, it has long time a go losed. But I'm tired of hunting, a lot easier to call it to my room.Oooops, almost forgot.
To put a bit if life into this thread. HUNTER how did you forget that for US$100 / an hour you can get a Dancer from Rio Strip Club? Albeit for a duration of 3 hours session.
The breakdown is US$100 an hour.
What do you think?
AColonizer
09-22-12, 16:20
With my method explained in some reports long time ago, I found some exceptional sex providers for folks-here's standards at reasonable prices: nobody have never found gold without efforts.
For my luck, I have never hired anybody from River Palace and I saw Rio in March and I wondered if it was the right place (in front of the German Embassy) and I thought I never hire anybody from Rio.
Kiev is a mine of opportunities of any kind (serious, occasional) and it is stupid to go there just for Rio. I understand those Americans / Australians / Europeans who need to advertize their brothels but, in my opinion of an experienced man, Western-oriented-brothels are just great frauds: that's it.
Oooops, almost forgot.
To put a bit if life into this thread. HUNTER how did you forget that for US$100 / an hour you can get a Dancer from Rio Strip Club? Albeit for a duration of 3 hours session.
The breakdown is US$100 an hour.
What do you think?
DoctorMario
09-22-12, 16:38
Gentlemen you get what you pay for.
Seems to me most girls on the sites you list are 200-400 USD?
My absolute favourite girl in Kiev http://sexyrimma.escort-site.com Quality girl and not for the faint-hearted either. !
AColonizer
09-23-12, 00:35
Watson, who downloads the brain to the WC before to open the wallet?
Global Surfer
09-23-12, 01:55
Gentlemen you get what you pay for.
Seems to me most girls on the sites you list are 200-400 USD?
My absolute favourite girl in Kiev.
http://sexyrimma.escort-site.com
Quality girl and not for the faint-hearted either. !Top-Model and escort-model you can get away with USD 100 or less.
Mamba varies from USD 50 to USD 100. I had stunners with GFE from USD 100 on mamba.
I also know one who asks for USD 300 in Budha bar but USD 100 on mamba.
There is little correlation between prices vs quality and service.
Top-Model and escort-model you can get away with USD 100 or less.
Mamba varies from USD 50 to USD 100. I had stunners with GFE from USD 100 on mamba.
I also know one who asks for USD 300 in Budha bar but USD 100 on mamba.
There is little correlation between prices vs quality and service.I knew of more than one girl from the old days at River Palace who were asking between US$80 to $100 an hour on Flirt. Com.
At River Palace they were asking around US300.
Ok, guys, everything is clear with cheap ladies. I ordered girls a couple of times on http://escort-models.com/ That's crazy. They post unreal photos and impudently approve that photos are real. When I called them they said that the girl is real and her photos represent the facts. Instead of the girl comes a trout! I ordered two times and both times sent them back. I paid attention to the new website http://marina.xxx. Has anyone ordered girls from there?
Ok, Leute, alles clar mit billige Damen. Ich bestellte ein paar Mal die Mädchen auf http://escort-models.com Und Ich war von der Frechheit getroffen von der sie die unwirklichen Fotos aufstellen. Ich rief an. Sie sagten dass das ist ein echtes Mädchen und Fotos entschprechen der Wirklichkeit. Stattdessen kommt ein Arschgesicht an! Zweimal Ich bestellte und zweimal schickte sie zurück. Ich habe die neue Website gemerkt http://marina.xxx. Hat jemand die Mädchen von the bestellt?
Ok, guys, everything is clear with cheap ladies. I ordered girls a couple of times on.
http://escort-models.com/
That's crazy. They post unreal photos and impudently approve that photos are real. When I called them they said that the girl is real and her photos represent the facts. Instead of the girl comes a trout! I ordered two times and both times sent them back. I paid attention to the new website.
http://marina.xxx.
Has anyone ordered girls from there?
Ok, Leute, alles clar mit billige Damen. Ich bestellte ein paar Mal die Mädchen auf.
http://escort-models.com
Und Ich war von der Frechheit getroffen von der sie die unwirklichen Fotos aufstellen. Ich rief an. Sie sagten dass das ist ein echtes Mädchen und Fotos entschprechen der Wirklichkeit. Stattdessen kommt ein Arschgesicht an! Zweimal Ich bestellte und zweimal schickte sie zurück. Ich habe die neue Website gemerkt.
http://marina.xxx.
Hat jemand die Mädchen von the bestellt?
Zak Roland
10-04-12, 20:04
Hello guys, last week I was in Kiev, it was an amazing trip. Many beautiful girls and lots of fun! I used outcall escort service with GIA agency and I'm very satisfied with services and girls that they provide. So if you are going to Ukraine you can try it as well: http://gia-escort.com Or http://gia.la I can say that Ukraine is very welcoming country. Friendly people, beautiful girls (oh I miss it already) , many places to see in Kiev. I decided to visit this city again in couple of weeks.
http://marina.xxx.
Has anyone ordered girls from there?
That seems to be the GIA escort agency with a different name. There are the same ladies and the same pictures
Global Surfer
10-23-12, 01:10
Hello guys, last week I was in Kiev, it was an amazing trip. Many beautiful girls and lots of fun! I used outcall escort service with GIA agency and I'm very satisfied with services and girls that they provide. So if you are going to Ukraine you can try it as well:
http://gia-escort.com
Or.
http://gia.la
I can say that Ukraine is very welcoming country. Friendly people, beautiful girls (oh I miss it already) , many places to see in Kiev. I decided to visit this city again in couple of weeks.Is this an ad or FR?
Hello guys, last week I was in Kiev, it was an amazing trip. Many beautiful girls and lots of fun! I used outcall escort service with GIA agency and I'm very satisfied with services and girls that they provide. So if you are going to Ukraine you can try it as well:
http://gia-escort.com
Or.
http://gia.la
I can say that Ukraine is very welcoming country. Friendly people, beautiful girls (oh I miss it already) , many places to see in Kiev. I decided to visit this city again in couple of weeks.Interesting that references to Gia keep popping up on the thread. Is this establishment an escort agency or some kind of web site medium for prostitutes? They have some girls that charge $150 and some that charge $300. What ever happened to the days of good pimps that kept things consistent. With loose parameters like that, girls will join up just to steal or use customers. That's probably why you see so much turn over in this agency.
Heads up to anybody from this agency. Things are getting shittier by the day for regular Ukrainians not to mention the difficulties facing Westerners. Somehow you guys perceived that you can now charge $300 / hr for a girl. Which managing partner went insane and came up with that nonsense? I suspect whoever owns Gia is from the West. Be forewarned carpetbagger, some of these young Ukrainian slicksters are learning how to pimp out sweet college girls for a third of your price on Mamba and VKontate.
Hello guys, last week I was in Kiev, it was an amazing trip. Many beautiful girls and lots of fun! I used outcall escort service with GIA agency and I'm very satisfied with services and girls that they provide. So if you are going to Ukraine you can try it as well:
http://gia-escort.com
Or.
http://gia.la
I can say that Ukraine is very welcoming country. Friendly people, beautiful girls (oh I miss it already) , many places to see in Kiev. I decided to visit this city again in couple of weeks.I was glancing at the girls from Gia and noticed Cheslava. I'm no porn expert, but isn't this girl modeling with a red scarf a major Russian porn star? Is it official, Gia now uses fake pictures?
Member #4491
10-25-12, 21:54
I was glancing at the girls from Gia and noticed Cheslava. I'm no porn expert, but isn't this girl modeling with a red scarf a major Russian porn star? Is it official, Gia now uses fake pictures?I tried one pic on http://www.tineye.com And it seems to be a Met art shoot.
B.
Kazanova1976
10-30-12, 14:47
I had a trip to Kiev 2 months ago. What can I say, I consider myself the expert in escort girls so having looked through GIA's gallery I selected girl named Angelika. I called the agency up, firstly I was wondered because manager spoke English really bad, but promised that in a 40 minutes, Angelika would have come. I waited about 2 hours! At last she came. Absolutelly different girl, not young, very tired, I supposed she was ill. Her smell was terrible. Sure I said her go away, but shame on her, she asked 40$ for taxi. I gave her money and called the agency again, but manager probably was very busy, she even didn't answer. So Gia it is the worst service I've ever used.
I had a trip to Kiev 2 months ago. What can I say, I consider myself the expert in escort girls so having looked through GIA's gallery I selected girl named Angelika. I called the agency up, firstly I was wondered because manager spoke English really bad, but promised that in a 40 minutes, Angelika would have come. I waited about 2 hours! At last she came. Absolutelly different girl, not young, very tired, I supposed she was ill. Her smell was terrible. Sure I said her go away, but shame on her, she asked 40$ for taxi. I gave her money and called the agency again, but manager probably was very busy, she even didn't answer. So Gia it is the worst service I've ever used.
Taxi one way for her is 40 grivna and not 20 dollar. Its ok to splash the cash on honest village girl, but not on hardcore scamming prostitute.
Poker Player 2
11-03-12, 21:14
I have written about the this agency previously. To put their existance in a business perspective, GIA agency in Kiev is the market leader when it comes to prize for the local market but fails to differentiate it's product\service from it's competitors. Infact, based on my brief dealings with the lady who answered the phone, I sensed that they hold a certain amount of contempt for their clients. Event though I have no particular concerns with their prices, I do object to the contempt they show their clients. It has been pointed out by other mongers that not only is their service not up to standard but the product is below market standards too. I am not quite sure how their survive in this competetive world but I have no intention of spendinig any of my money with them anytime soon!
GirlPuncher
11-07-12, 14:15
Wow, what a useful forum I've found. Right now I'm going to Kiev for business and wanted to find some good Kiev chicks for sex. I see that this Gia is very popular here, everyone is talking about it. Is it a company or a single prostitute? Can you guys give me the actual link for the website? Want to try.
AColonizer
11-07-12, 17:28
Again! Are you an absolute beginner or a Gia pimp? It is clear: don't use Gia, don't use Gia twin websites, don't use websites for Western people, don't use websites in an English-only language, don't use websites with "punter" score. You have to learn Russian! You have to learn how to dominate girls! Otherwise stay at home!
Wow, what a useful forum I've found. Right now I'm going to Kiev for business and wanted to find some good Kiev chicks for sex. I see that this Gia is very popular here, everyone is talking about it. Is it a company or a single prostitute? Can you guys give me the actual link for the website? Want to try.
Again! Are you an absolute beginner or a Gia pimp?AC, this is just another of the quite frequent attempts by the pathetic and incompetent Gia management to try and give themselves some occasional free publicity in this forum.
This garbage agency charges the highest prices with the worst performing girls, and you can see it if anyone RTFF in any depth. Kazanova1976 and PokerPlayer2 from a week ago (scroll down) is the latest in a very long list of disappointed and now likely former clients to add their opinions about them. These are the real stories about Gia. Listen to them readers, please.
As for this self-named "GirlPuncher," he is probably the abuser and enforcer at Gia who beats the girls up when they do not toe the company line. This post was probably by GirlPuncher a very bad attempt at damage control by Gia management but with a nick like that, it makes it much worse. You have to wonder what Gia does to their girls...
I never thought I would see the day that I would actually agree with AC. Wonders never cease.
AC, this is just another of the quite frequent attempts by the pathetic and incompetent Gia management to try and give themselves some occasional free publicity in this forum.
This garbage agency charges the highest prices with the worst performing girls, and you can see it if anyone RTFF in any depth. Kazanova1976 and PokerPlayer2 from a week ago (scroll down) is the latest in a very long list of disappointed and now likely former clients to add their opinions about them. These are the real stories about Gia. Listen to them readers, please.
As for this self-named "GirlPuncher," he is probably the abuser and enforcer at Gia who beats the girls up when they do not toe the company line. This post was probably by GirlPuncher a very bad attempt at damage control by Gia management but with a nick like that, it makes it much worse. You have to wonder what Gia does to their girls.
I never thought I would see the day that I would actually agree with AC. Wonders never cease..
Gosh. Surprise, Surprise. Stayed here long enough on ISG and now I see the day Uke Boy and AC agree on something which was so Fucking Obvious for me even before I landed in Kiev in 2009.
Their female call minder at the time summed up GIA's attiude towards would be customers. Good job she did.
BTW. Only phoned her at the time in the interest of research into prices in KIEV.
Can't (GIA) employ more sophisticated SHILLS?
Wow, what a useful forum I've found. Right now I'm going to Kiev for business and wanted to find some good Kiev chicks for sex. I see that this Gia is very popular here, everyone is talking about it. Is it a company or a single prostitute? Can you guys give me the actual link for the website? Want to try. GIA. Stands for (General Intimate Agency ).
Rumor Has it ", its an Agency with Overpriced Prostitutes who provide bad services, and their phone minders need a crash course in PR and courtesy towards would be clients.".
Rumor also has it " The agency also has an abuser and enforcer at Gia who beats and Punches the girls up when they do not toe the company Line ".
Any further advise?
Just Shoot.
GIA. Stands for (General Intimate Agency ).
Rumor Has it ", its an Agency with Overpriced Prostitutes who provide bad services, and their phone minders need a crash course in PR and courtesy towards would be clients.".
Rumor also has it " The agency also has an abuser and enforcer at Gia who beats and Punches the girls up when they do not toe the company Line ".
Any further advise?
Just Shoot.This is what I know of Gia, all based on hearsay from a couple of prostitutes that worked for them somewhere in the past. They told me that ownership had changed hands from an Italian guy to some new group. When that occurred, they started placing excessive restrictions on the girls such as having to be available at any time, nights included. Well, any moron knows that ukrainian girls are free spirits that will not let themselves be suffocated by somebodies system. Hence, all the quality went out the door. I think there system worked when River Boat was open and sex tourists more plentiful. But things have changed, a lot of night clubs have closed down in Kiev the last couple of years so they just don't have as many lazy and dumb customers as before. Too many things going against there business model. Especially the young Ukrainian guys that have learned how to market on Mamba and have direct access to the girls socially.
This is what I know of Gia, all based on hearsay . I think there system worked when River Boat was open and sex tourists more plentiful. But things have changed, a lot of night clubs have closed down in Kiev the last couple of years so they just don't have as many lazy and dumb customers as before. Too many things going against there business model. Especially the young Ukrainian guys that have learned how to market on Mamba and have direct access to the girls socially.Hi CN.
But then in this case they do need "A More Sophisticated Way Of Shilling ".
You know what I mean?
Like softly, softly, hoodwinking potential would be mongers into the world of GIA.
Poker Player 2
11-09-12, 10:10
It is my position that this agency has so little respect, or more accurately it shows real contempt for it's potential clients in this forum that they see no need to invest in any efforts for sophistication in their shilling of their miserable business here. In the world that I know, businesses that do not deliver a product worth buying will eventually go out of business. In the case of the GIA agency, the sooner they go out of business, the better as far as I am concerned. Enjoy the joys of Kiev and spend your money wisely!
DavidSurrey
11-09-12, 11:14
Gentlemen you get what you pay for.
Seems to me most girls on the sites you list are 200-400 USD?
My absolute favourite girl in Kiev.
http://sexyrimma.escort-site.com
Quality girl and not for the faint-hearted either. !haven't used the agency you're talking about but guys you have to see Rimma while you're in Kiev. Gorgeous, funny, sexy, classy and really really naughty. Who could ask for more?
GIA. Stands for (General Intimate Agency ).
Any further advise?
Just Shoot.(General Intimacy Agency)
(General Intimate's Agency) If its a one guy show.
With the alleged Rumors "That he goes round beating and Punching up the girls, if they don't toe the company line ".
This is assuming (Intimate) is an alias for (Mr Big, The General ).
Anyone cares?
Hello all:
I thought I would add to the forum. I ran across this website for escorts. Prices seem reasonable.
Any takers or info on this from anyone? Sexkiev dot net.
Hamboner
You don't have to leave home for her prices and quality. Way over priced for Kyiv.
haven't used the agency you're talking about but guys you have to see Rimma while you're in Kiev. Gorgeous, funny, sexy, classy and really really naughty. Who could ask for more?
MertBlade88
01-18-13, 21:26
Is this website reliable?
http://escort-models.com/
And why are the prices low?
I did a search for "natashaescort" and found no posts anywhere so I am asking the group about it. Does anybody know if this website is legitimate:
http://natashaescort.com/eng/seks-analnyy
Is this website reliable?
http://escort-models.com/
And why are the prices low?MertBlade88. I cannot say whether the site is legit because I haven't used it. However, I think you are mistaken about the low prices. Those prices are listed in Euros. 100 Euros = about 1100 Hryvnas.
Anybody has tried the below agency as they have stunners in their lineup.
But they ask for 30% advance. Is it fake or anybody has some
Experience about this escort agency?
www.donezk-dreams.com
Is it fake or anybody has some Experience about this escort agency?
www.donezk-dreams.comIf you look a little deeper into this site, my computer security system is warning me about a 'pishing link'. So please beware, those 'poisoned links' exist on some Eastern European Agency sites.
CityHunter77
01-27-13, 21:30
Anybody has tried the below agency as they have stunners in their lineup.
But they ask for 30% advance. Is it fake or anybody has some
Experience about this escort agency?
www.donezk-dreams.comLooks like a scam.
http://www.donezk-dreams.com/elena.html
This one looks amazing though
Anybody has tried the below agency as they have stunners in their lineup.
www.donezk-dreams.comIn their lineup, the girl called Katrina (26 years old. 173 cm tall) is the famous model Irina Skuratova. Here is the photo and one link http://www.donmodels.ru/models/detail.php?SECTION_ID=0&ELEMENT_ID=3234
Anybody has tried the below agency as they have stunners in their lineup.
But they ask for 30% advance. Is it fake or anybody has some
Experience about this escort agency?
www.donezk-dreams.comIt is a fake. They take your money. But no girls turns up.
Member #4491
01-30-13, 00:03
Anybody has tried the below agency as they have stunners in their lineup.
But they ask for 30% advance. Is it fake or anybody has some
Experience about this escort agency?
www.donezk-dreams.comBusybee, I have NEVER heard f any legit operation that requires a down-payment. Don't ever do this. You will just loose the money. This particular site is a 100% scam.
Barba
Hi Jojosun,
Huh, . Thats very interesting rumor.
Have you some more detailed information about that?
I would appreciate.
(General Intimacy Agency)
(General Intimate's Agency) If its a one guy show.
With the alleged Rumors "That he goes round beating and Punching up the girls, if they don't toe the company line ".
Good advertising for GIA me thinks or, given the terrible services available.v- mega prices, maybe its bad.
You can try jamqueens. Com they are password protected, send them your phone number and you will get password to see galleries. All pictures are real, they are on the expensive side though.
Good advertising for GIA me thinks or, given the terrible services available.v- mega prices, maybe its bad.Why? I had one from gia last week insted of taking my freebie gf, super professional and top class service from the girl.
Why? I had one from gia last week insted of taking my freebie gf, super professional and top class service from the girl.If you want to pay near to London prices for poor quality services* then that's your prerogative. Alternatively, you may want to consider changing your gf. :-D.
* 17 out of 31 girls only provide covered blowjob.
* 28 out of 31 girls don't provide CIM.
That's poor quality services.
If you want to pay near to London prices for poor quality services* then that's your prerogative. Alternatively, you may want to consider changing your gf. :-D.
* 17 out of 31 girls only provide covered blowjob.
* 28 out of 31 girls don't provide CIM.
That's poor quality services.Look dude, Kiev is full of free of charge sex. Too many freebes too chose from and that makes me love this city. Not to talk of elegant women this city provides. I did this for a sake of fun. Neither service or preformance from the girl was bad, in fact it was good. My buying of sex is neither price related or if they do anal sex or not. Not to say of price.
Have a nice day
Rimma is a very very classy girl who makes a great girlfriend experience, anal sex. Actually, all services what she provide very very high. She makes one feel like a real man for the time spent with her. I dream that she would be my constant companion forever. So, she will make you feel like her prince!
http://www.sexyrimma.escort-site.com/
Rimma is a very very classy girl who makes a great girlfriend experience in Kiev. She makes one feel like a real man for the time spent with her. I dream that she would be my constant companion forever. Treat her like a queen with respect and she will make you feel like her prince!
Rimma is a very very classy girl who makes a great girlfriend experience, anal sex. Actually, all services what she provide very very high. She makes one feel like a real man for the time spent with her. I dream that she would be my constant companion forever. So, she will make you feel like her prince!
http://www.sexyrimma.escort-site.com/Maybe the classifieds is the section? $1, 000 for an allnighter? There must be a long queue
Maybe the classifieds is the section? $1, 000 for an allnighter? There must be a long queueTotally madness!
And I still think that we lost the River Palace.
IT.
Hope to se you soon I owe you a beer!
Totally madness!
And I still think that we lost the River Palace.
IT.
Hope to se you soon I owe you a beer!Yeah. Guy comes in with 2 posts doing that. Very insulting to forum members. Classifieds or go away. Obviously hasn't read the forum to get an idea of realistic prices.
Hunter67. You are a shill. The lowest form of advertising in existence.
Poker Player 2
05-04-13, 17:34
Rimma is a very very classy girl who makes a great girlfriend experience in Kiev. She makes one feel like a real man for the time spent with her. I dream that she would be my constant companion forever. Treat her like a queen with respect and she will make you feel like her prince!Dear Shill,
I believe you are misled about the nature of THE truth. You are providing misinformation to the forum members.
I'm new to this forum, just registered.
I thought I'd start with pointing out something interesting.
I found this girl on two different websites and her price is different on the two, and there's also a different phone number for contact in each site.
The things she does are also stated differently. The cheaper site says she does blowjobs with no condom. The more expensive one says she does not.
Maybe the more expensive site is the "real" one and the other one is just ripping off her pictures?
Here's links to both:
http://en.kiev.natashaescort.com/263/Elena/380991639458
http://gia.la/girl/angelika2
Cheers!
Hello all:
I thought I would add to the forum. I ran across this website for escorts. Prices seem reasonable.
Any takers or info on this from anyone? Sexkiev dot net.
HambonerI tried it few time already. The prices are more or less in that region but the girls' photos are not. Only one of the 5 girls I tried match the photo on the site. Nowadays I use minoet dot biz. Cheaper and the photos do match most of the times to the escort.
I found this girl on two different websites and her price is different on the two, and there's also a different phone number for contact in each site.
The things she does are also stated differently. The cheaper site says she does blowjobs with no condom. The more expensive one says she does not.
Maybe the more expensive site is the "real" one and the other one is just ripping off her pictures?
Here's links to both:
http://en.kiev.natashaescort.com/263/Elena/380991639458
http://gia.la/girl/angelika2
Cheers!Doesn't necessarily mean what you think it might.
Lots of girls work with different agencies and take any work they can get.
With the cheaper site, you may find that OWO comes with an extra supplement that evens things out.
In any case, Gia is a reputable agency of long years standing, although not to everyone's taste...
I tried it few time already. The prices are more or less in that region but the girls' photos are not. Only one of the 5 girls I tried match the photo on the site. Nowadays I use minoet dot biz. Cheaper and the photos do match most of the times to the escort.I misspelled the web site. Minuet dot biz.
I'm new to this forum, just registered.
http://en.kiev.natashaescort.com/263/Elena/380991639458
http://gia.la/girl/angelika2
Cheers!Gia pictures of Angelika is real.
By the way, Yulia from GIA agency http://gia-escort.com/ru/girl/yulia7 Is Met-Art model Lucia D http://guests.met-art.com/model/lucia-d/
TexasMorrell
10-15-13, 03:20
Doesn't necessarily mean what you think it might.
Lots of girls work with different agencies and take any work they can get.
With the cheaper site, you may find that OWO comes with an extra supplement that evens things out.
In any case, Gia is a reputable agency of long years standing, although not to everyone's taste.Those prices are absurd. Why go all the way to Ukraine to basically pay US escort prices? I never, ever, never pay more than $100 / hr and then only if she is truly outstanding. There are way too many beautiful available women in Ukraine to justify paying more.
Those prices are absurd. Why go all the way to Ukraine to basically pay US escort prices? I never, ever, never pay more than $100 / hr and then only if she is truly outstanding. There are way too many beautiful available women in Ukraine to justify paying more.Because it's shooting fish in a barrel.
You can go to any of these clubs an spend a night hunting. You may see one that you like and by the time you get eye contact some other guy has a drink in her hand and 15 mins later is escoring her and her hot friend out of the club.
You can spend your time getting ready, getting out there, buying drinks, wasting hours with your head bobbing all over the place, and finally pull a decent girl by the time you're half drunk and if you're old enough, don't really care so much anymore.
You pay a premium to a legit agency for a sure thing. You have a reliable set of photos, you set the time, you don't need to go out and leave your place and do all the basic work, or hang around with a crowd you don't like, hoping for that chance to pull the one you want.
It's like ordering venison at the restaurant vs. Going out in camouflage, shooting it and bringing it home. For those short on time or who don't have the skills to fire the gun, this is easy and easy is worth it. Those who can hunt will always scoff at those who need to order from the meny (fairly) but you should also understand why they do it. Lack of hunting skills happens. Doesn't mean they don't need some temporary love too.
I like going to the strip clubs because it's half and half plus surprise factor is lowered. Can see what you're getting, pick from a menu, and take it for a test drive in all ways, and then make your decision.
The Mamba dates unless you're going to go for a girl who can't talk to you, come over, have quick sex and send her off, you can actually fall into the protracted US style of dates where she wants this and that and this restaurant and so on and it's another waste of your time. Mamba is a real crapshoot. Has been good to me in the past to find girls for real dating but lately none of that at all and nothing interesting, just girls who don't like me much who want to ride on my coattails as far as possible.
I misspelled the web site. Minuet dot biz.Are all the prices in UAH? I used google web page translator and it said the prices were in USD?
Are all the prices in UAH? I used google web page translator and it said the prices were in USD?For some reason google translates Ukrainian money (UAH) into USD. So if your looking at website that is translated and it says 600 USD you can be sure the real price is 600 UAH (which is about 75 USD).
I have a dream to fuck a girl with another guy at the same time. I do not want to do anything gay, only to pleasure a woman at the same time. I know many women in Kiev who are willing to do this. If you are interested in doing such a thing in Kiev soon then send me a private message. We will then choose a girl and a meeting. Also I would love to do a gangbang of 5 guys and 1 girl. If this also interests you then private message me and I will start to set this up.
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Is there a list of recommended Kiev escorts and escort sites somewhere?
I would like to avoid the gamble of escort sites, where pictures are not real, surprise up-charges, etc.
Thanks
There seems to be a lot of reasonably priced (300. 800 UAH) semi-pros on http://Top-Modals.com And http://RelaxPortal.biz. (Well ladies that don't look so hardcore anyway.)
Anyone willing to share their experiences with these sites?
There seems to be a lot of reasonably priced (300. 800 UAH) semi-pros on.
http://Top-Modals.com
And.
http://RelaxPortal.biz.
(Well ladies that don't look so hardcore anyway.)
Anyone willing to share their experiences with these sites?98% agencies. 95% fake pics.
98% agencies. 95% fake pics.I guess there is no honor amongst Ukrainian websites with "Verified Photos".
Are the prices correct or is that bait and switch too?
98% agencies. 95% fake pics.OK before anyone jumps on me all angry I have RTFF.
But does anyone have *any* recommendations for good and reliable escort sites or agencies?
Or is Kiev just bait & switch and assorted scams?
OK before anyone jumps on me all angry I have RTFF.
But does anyone have *any* recommendations for good and reliable escort sites or agencies?
Or is Kiev just bait & switch and assorted scams?I have no recommendations for good and reliable escort sites or agencies even if I used them a lot, but it was more than 10 years ago.
I will be in Kiev soon. So I have some websites I will try. Someone may try them before us and let us know how it was.
I will try first some girls on these websites:
http://intimgirls.net/
http://www.top-modals.com/
http://vip-popki.com.ua/
The last one works also for Kharkov or Odessa.
I found this one too. Prices are a bit more expensive, around 800 UAH for 1 hour.
If you want BBBJ or cunilingus, you have to add 600 UAH, so that's around 100 $ for 1 hour. It seems to be more a kind of just one agency as they don't have many girlson their website:
http://bella-escort.biz/
Any feedback concerning one of these website or any kind of escort website would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks in advance guys for your reports.
About this link: http://bella-escort.biz/.
It seems they only come if you order for 2 hours, so it means 1600 UAH and 600 UAH more for BBBJ and cunnilingus. At the end it's like using a girl from.
http://gia.la/r/girl/dasha6
Kiev Escorts, that's non sense. Have a look on the link below and see since she has been a prostitute. The review is from "Arthur" on 19 June 2010.
http://sexkieva.com/en/gallery/112/
Everything is fake, even the reviews.
Hrchrister
11-01-14, 22:35
Rimma is a very very classy girl who makes a great girlfriend experience in Kiev. She makes one feel like a real man for the time spent with her. I dream that she would be my constant companion forever. Treat her like a queen with respect and she will make you feel like her prince!Spam. It's easy to see from the choosen words that it's written by one with "russian" mentality, probably the wore herself. Hunter 67 has only posted two posts, a double one about the "greatness" of this (ridicoulus pricy) provider. AVOID.
Hello,
Last December I was been in Kiev. I used the agency:" top-models ", and the photo of the girl was false. They use photos of models. The line-up of the real girls of the agency is very weak and the prices are crazy for Ukraine.
AColonizer
02-22-15, 15:38
Hello fellow mongers,
Which recommended prostitutes or brothels from cheap sites did you test?
I am not interested in expensive agencies, disco clubs and pseudo-escorts!
Nearly hit on Devochka Bomba on Mamba, this Thailand all over.
Goes to show reading text does help sometimes.
Good luck and play safe.
Hey guys,
Someone maybe have an adventure with her?
http://www.eliteescort-companion.com/gallery.html
Greetings,
Was in Kiev last week.
Here my 2 cents on how to get some satisfaction with escort services.
I checked the usual suspects, various websites.
Used this one.
http://minuet.biz/main
Selected Ilona VIP REAL.
http://minuet.biz/girl/15041
Phoned 22:45 on a Monday, call was instantly answered.
I was asked which girl I would like, so obviously there were more, I asked for Ilona.
The voice answered: " Oh, that's me. Would you like to come?
I answered that I was to tired, which was true, and preferred her to come to my hotel.
I was asked for my room number, but told her that I would pick her up from downstairs.
15 min later, I got a call, and went down, from the taxi emerged this girl.
Julenka.
http://minuet.biz/girl/12498
Not the one on the picture, but from the looks in real life, she was not far away and from the same quality stock.
She asked if I was OK with her. As her appearance satisfied my taste, I brought her up.
She went straight for a shower. Gave me a 30 min massage. The session with BJ and various positions took about an hour.
It was calm and pleasant GF sex. She was wet enough, to give the impression of enjoyment.
After the session we had 30 min left and she asked if I want another round. But I was basically to tired and told her to leave. And as I was in bed anyway, went straight to sleep.
Price was 2400,- grv for 2 hours. I rounded up to 2500,- , 100 for the taxi, its an equivalent of 100 €.
Now I am often in German FKK clubs and am still convinced that in these venues you get the best variety and quality for your money.
But even so I would have paid double, or lets say 200 € for 2 hours.
If somebody does not want to hunt in clubs and being confronted with exaggerated rates or the fuss to convince semi professionals for some fun.
Go for the escort sites and use your common sense.
Avoid going to the apartments, you might find yourself at an agency facing models not to your liking.
Ask her to come to your comfort zone.
When phoning, ask if the pictures are hers, and that if they are fake you will send her packing on arrival. Be strict.
I did not do this last time, but was lucky enough to get a good replacement with see cups a pretty face and a killer body. So I was more then OK.
But will ask the question definitely the next time again.
Pick her up downstairs, don't mind the staff, they are used to it, and its non of their business anyway.
Don't expect to get model material for 300 grv an hour, 10€. But maybe even this could happen, even though I doubt it.
You get what you pay for, but being used to get top material for 100€/ hour in German FKK Clubs, I consider that amount my max investment for similar quality.
So I look into a similar price range. And So far I never was much disappointed.
Its a buyers market in Kiev now.
So enjoy and stay safe.
Hey Leoas!
Great report! Thanks a lot!
I have one question; dis you speak English or do you speak Russian? My recollections say that English did work sometimes but was sufficient and whit some help "sign language", but I am not sure you could communicate by phone.
BTW, I like your taste.
Greetings,
Was in Kiev last week.
Here my 2 cents on how to get some satisfaction with escort services.
I checked the usual suspects, various websites.
Used this one.
http://minuet.biz/main
Selected Ilona VIP REAL.
http://minuet.biz/girl/15041
Phoned 22:45 on a Monday, call was instantly answered.
I was asked which girl I would like, so obviously there were more, I asked for Ilona.
The voice answered: " Oh, that's me. Would you like to come?
I answered that I was to tired, which was true, and preferred her to come to my hotel.
I was asked for my room number, but told her that I would pick her up from downstairs.
15 min later, I got a call, and went down, from the taxi emerged this girl.
Julenka.
http://minuet.biz/girl/12498
Not the one on the picture, but from the looks in real life, she was not far away and from the same quality stock.
She asked if I was OK with her. As her appearance satisfied my taste, I brought her up.
She went straight for a shower. Gave me a 30 min massage. The session with BJ and various positions took about an hour.
It was calm and pleasant GF sex. She was wet enough, to give the impression of enjoyment.
After the session we had 30 min left and she asked if I want another round. But I was basically to tired and told her to leave. And as I was in bed anyway, went straight to sleep.
Price was 2400,- grv for 2 hours. I rounded up to 2500,- , 100 for the taxi, its an equivalent of 100 .
Now I am often in German FKK clubs and am still convinced that in these venues you get the best variety and quality for your money.
But even so I would have paid double, or lets say 200 for 2 hours.
If somebody does not want to hunt in clubs and being confronted with exaggerated rates or the fuss to convince semi professionals for some fun.
Go for the escort sites and use your common sense.
Avoid going to the apartments, you might find yourself at an agency facing models not to your liking.
Ask her to come to your comfort zone.
When phoning, ask if the pictures are hers, and that if they are fake you will send her packing on arrival. Be strict.
I did not do this last time, but was lucky enough to get a good replacement with see cups a pretty face and a killer body. So I was more then OK.
But will ask the question definitely the next time again.
Pick her up downstairs, don't mind the staff, they are used to it, and its non of their business anyway.
Don't expect to get model material for 300 grv an hour, 10. But maybe even this could happen, even though I doubt it.
You get what you pay for, but being used to get top material for 100/ hour in German FKK Clubs, I consider that amount my max investment for similar quality.
So I look into a similar price range. And So far I never was much disappointed.
Its a buyers market in Kiev now.
So enjoy and stay safe.Nice reports Leoas. Not so many about escorts here.
By the way why did you pay 2400 UAH for Julenka for 2 hours when it's written 300 UAH for 1 hour, so 600 UAH for 2 hours?
I am surprised that you agree to pay 200 Euros for 2 hours with some other girls. So many people get 200-250 Euros a month here. And you can have that price in Berlin for example.
Hmmm,
Hello Volpone,
Maybe my report was not as clear as I thought.
I phoned Ilona, her rate was 2400,- another girl came, which in my opinion was on the same level, the advertised price for the phoned number was 2400.
Only on the next day I remembered that the girl which came, looked familiar to one of the adverts I saw before, and checked the site, and realized that it was Julenka. Her photos do not do her Justice she was in real, more stunning and had a nice demeanor.
The story was to amusing not to be told, as everybody complaints about fake photos. And I wanted to share my experience and to describe a process which should be more or less fail safe for newbies to the escort sites.
I know the income level and my ways around Kiev. I am into P2P more than 25 years all over the world, even in exotic places like Syria, Ghana or Lebanon. I know Kiev quite well, lived there from 2008-2010. Still visiting from time to time, private and on business.
With a bit of effort I can get the freebies if I want, as I am in good shape and the Ukrainian girls appreciate somebody in my age with money. But since a couple of years that seems like too much hassle. I do not need any romance, I need relaxation. I prefer professionals, and I am often getting good ones, due to my experience.
I liked the report of Stevie69, and agree to most of it. It's a good guide.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?816-Kiev&p=1745043#post1745043.
I paid 97 Euros not 200.
The reference was that I would pay for such a girl in a German FKK 200,- for two hours. As I paid half of it, I can't complain much.
I am sure and know it from experience, that if I would have called the number with Julenkas photo with 300/ per hour, another class of girl would have turned up, definitely not as classy or refined.
Having said that, the girl still has room to improve, it was a solid performance, but nothing out of the ordinary. But she left me her mobile for the next encounter, and now I have a different negotiation base.
As anywhere in the world, you get what you pay for, I like model types in their twenties, with a bit of brain and good behavior, who do not talk unless invited and if needed can carry a conversation.
A provider who is charging 300,- per hour in Ukraine will not deliver what I want. Its maybe possible to find, if she is desperate or new to the city, but it's a hit and a miss.
When I order delivery, I like to make sure to have something tasty, without surprises, that's all.
As I wrote my limit is 100,- per hour, and I think it's a fair exchange. I do not understand anybody paying more than that. By any means.
And actually where ever I traveled I got the quality I was looking for, be it Italy, France or Japan. Never paid more for a model companion. Performances might vary, but at least, even if the performance was not as good as desired, I got something for my sore eyes.
Enjoy and stay safe.
Hey Leoas!
Great report! Thanks a lot!
I have one question; dis you speak English or do you speak Russian? My recollections say that English did work sometimes but was sufficient and whit some help "sign language", but I am not sure you could communicate by phone.
BTW, I like your taste.Hello Jolion,
Actually it depends on my mood. I was able to score in both languages. But I am able to speak freely in Russian which certainly helps to find a bigger variety, but there are quite a few providers who claim to have enough English skills, its all in the advert. But of course there are more, who can speak only Russian.
I believe in a balance. And most important with the Slavic mentality is to be firm, but friendly. It never let me down with the girls.
Stay safe and enjoy.
I ordered this girl on this number (095) 222-22-63.
I asked if she really does a BBBJ, Cunilingus. The receptionist on the phone told me that was ok.
When the girl arrived near the apartment, the receptionist asked me to go downstairs to pay the taxi. Of course I said no. 5 minutes later the girl arrived at my apartment with a friend. Both girls were young and quite pretty, around 20. I chose one of the girl and pay 200 UAH for the taxi.
Then I asked the girl I chose, if she does BBBJ and cunilingus. She said no. So I just sent her away without money of course. Sex is another dimension with blow job without and Cuni.
She was happy to go away. She has just won 140 UAH, because they surely pay the taxi 35 UAH to go and 35 UAH back as their apartment is in the center like my apartment. 140 UAH about 6 euros: for some jobs they need to work a whole day. If you live in the center, just pay 100 UAH for the taxi. A ride in the center, even at night time is 35 UAH for a taxi that you order by phone.
http://minuet.biz/girl/15514
To avoid, they will trick you.
Till now I was getting girls from mamba for around 1300-1500 UAH with BBBJ, cuni for 2 hours. So mamba it's still better, but it takes lots of time to get that price and these girls.
Horny Monger
09-05-15, 20:04
She was happy to go away. She has just won 140 UAH, because they surely pay the taxi 35 UAH to go and 35 UAH back as their apartment is in the center like my apartment. 140 UAH about 6 euros: for some jobs they need to work a whole day. If you live in the center, just pay 100 UAH for the taxi. A ride in the center, even at night time is 35 UAH for a taxi that you order by phone.Are you sure taxi costs 35 UAH?
I rode a couple of times very short distance in the center and each time the meter started at 50 UAH during the day. Each time, I had an Ukrainian woman calling for the taxi.
Which taxi company are you using?
Are you sure taxi costs 35 UAH?
I rode a couple of times very short distance in the center and each time the meter started at 50 UAH during the day. Each time, I had an Ukrainian woman calling for the taxi.
Which taxi company are you using?Up to I think half a year ago. Now 50 ls the new 35))) they don't work with meters, the dispatcher calculates the fare based onthe distance.
Up to I think half a year ago. Now 50 ls the new 35))) they don't work with meters, the dispatcher calculates the fare based onthe distance.Last time I used this service, cheap, honest, use google translate or call them phone or Skype.
http://bingotaxi.kiev.ua/uslugi.html and http://bingotaxi.kiev.ua/raschet_marshruta.html.
AColonizer
09-06-15, 10:43
Good report: at last somebody helps! But that's an irony: we should find a lot of available blondinkas in Kiev and instead we find a lot of south-Mediterranean-like prostitutes.
Greetings,
Was in Kiev last week.
Here my 2 cents on how to get some satisfaction with escort services.
I checked the usual suspects, various websites.
Used this one.
http://minuet.biz/main
Selected Ilona VIP REAL.
http://minuet.biz/girl/15041
Phoned 22:45 on a Monday, call was instantly answered.
I was asked which girl I would like, so obviously there were more, I asked for Ilona.
The voice answered: " Oh, that's me. Would you like to come?..
Are you sure taxi costs 35 UAH?
I rode a couple of times very short distance in the center and each time the meter started at 50 UAH during the day. Each time, I had an Ukrainian woman calling for the taxi.
Which taxi company are you using?With this company is 35 UAH, it may sometimes be 40 UAH at night time.
0954559595.
Last time I used this service, cheap, honest, use google translate or call them phone or Skype.
http://bingotaxi.kiev.ua/uslugi.html and http://bingotaxi.kiev.ua/raschet_marshruta.html.Thanks, maybe I will try them out. At the moment I use optima. I just call 579 and they call me back.
Stumbled over an ukranian forum.
Web Kiev-x. In.
Local mongers exchanging information and warnings.
After some reading I realized that even the locals are lured by fake photos, agencys claiming to be individuals etc.
Seems there not many ways for verification.
Using ad sites is no guarantee.
Best way to verify if the phone belongs to an individual girl working or to an agency.
Copy it into google search, if you get many results with different names and pics, the its an agency, so be even more careful.
If the result is inconclusive, chances are that the number really belongs to one person.
In anyway, before going somewhere, call the girls to your place, check the visuals and only invite and pay, if you like what you see.
Locals are often using ads from sort of ukranian craig list, here the website, already tuned to classified ads.
http://kiev.ukrgo.com/search.php?search=%C2%E2%E5%E4%E8%F2%E5+%EA%EB%FE%F7%E5%E2%EE%E5+%F1%EB%EE%E2%EE.&id_region=56&id_section=9&id_subsection=146&photo=on&id_dr_119=&id_fr_120=18&id_to_120=35&id_fr_121=&id_to_121=&id_fr_122=&id_to_122=&
Happy hunting.
LS.
Visit Kiev
12-25-15, 18:41
Been reading a lot about the place. Also do and don'ts.
Of course I want to meet some girls and I have visited the webpages as suggested on this site, great guys.
If I want to meet "normal" girls where would I go then?
Keep the rapports coming.
Poker Player 2
12-26-15, 01:31
Background:
I have visited Kiev for hobby purposes 8 times since 2009. However, this is my first trip since the summer of 2012. Kiev has been unusually warm this December with highs of 8 C. However, this will change next week as the temperatures will drop to a low of -11 C! The current exchange rate is 24.5 UAH to a Dollar and 26.5 UAH to the Euro. I am on the wrong side of 50, know some Russian and do not have a particular budget- which means, within reason, I spend as I see fit. I have a good size black book with lots of telephone numbers of girls from my previous trips and I have done my homework mostly on Mamba before landing in Kiev. I have setup evening dates for the first two nights of my arrival. I have rented an apartment in the center close to many EU embassies in Kiev.
Safety:
I know this has been discussed extensively in the forum recently. The center appears to be void of any police presence. I am not sure I have seen any police officers or vehicles since I arrived. I am not sure if this is good or bad as Ukraine police's reputation is less than stellar! Private security guards appear in front of most embassies though including the German and the Swedish. Some reports had expressed safety concerns. Frankly, I had never been concerned about my personal safety before in Kiev and walked the City streets at all different hours but I must confess this trip I have been more careful as there are more dangerous looking elements on the streets of the center. Let us not over react here, I still do not believe Kiev is any less safe than London, New York or Paris. So let us keep things in perspective but yes safety situation in Kiev is not as good as before.
Prices:
If you think Kiev is a bargain because of the current exchange rates or the state of the economy in Ukraine, you are in for a shock. Accommodation (Western Style) , decent food and the girls have all adjusted for the exchange rate pretty much. Alright let us discuss girl prices as I think food and accommodation is not what we are here for in this forum. I will share with you club girl prices, Rio girl prices and Mamba girl prices. I met two club girls who quoted me $300 for an hour or two. Subjectively I would rate them 8-9 which I declined naturally. Rio girls (those that actually go out) are still $300 for 3 hours and yes you do have to pay in advance; the club does not offer credit! You pay the girl before taking here out. Mamba girls have been discussed at length but they also know the value of their relative beauties and charms. If you can actually get their real photos on Mamba, those that I subjectively rate as 5 or less can be had for around 1500 UAH for 1-2 hours. Those that I subjectively rate at 5-7, ask for $100 but may be ok with 2000 UAH for short time (2 hours). The prettier ones, those that I subjectively rate at 7-9, all 3 stopped responding to my messages when I offered them 3000 UAH for short time (ST)! So I do not know for sure what they would go for but I do not need to know I guess! In short, the days when you could stick to your guns and offer 1000 UAH for 2-3 hours for a decent girl are long gone.
RIO:
The demise of RIO is greatly exaggerated. I live two blocks away from the club and drop by often not so much to pick up girls but more because I like to see naked girls (topless) move on stage for an hour or two before retiring. Yes it is true the quality of girls at RIO has gone done over the years but again from my perspective, I would accept 90% of the RIO girls to bed, I would pay $300 for 3 hours to about 10% of the RIO girls. I just am not sure how many of that 10%, I could tolerate their attitude but again that is all subjective. It remains true that while convenient to visit an open brothel, RIO girls have never been a bargain in Kiev.
One note about Sandra (RIO dancer). I went for a 400 UAH private with her (lasts 2 songs) - I gave her a 500 UAH note. I let her go before the second song was over. She decided to keep the balance of 100 UAH as her tip I guess and disappeared in the club. 100 UAH means little to us but I wonder how club manager would react?
Other observations:
Some reports had expressed a more hostile attitude towards foreigners, particularly to Westerners. I am afraid, I felt some of that. I am not sure this hostility or indifference is any more pronounced than the attitude shown towards some of our Turkish or Middle Eastern brothers. Yes please be aware and consider carefully before engaging in political discussions. I am hoping this is common sense for most of us.
Clubs are dead (really dead) mid week but become uncomfortably crowded over the weekends.
Smoking indoors (clubs-bars) is still the norm in Kiev based on the evidence I have witnessed so far.
Traffic is worse than I remembered; I would compare it to NY and London in the center of Kiev! Perhaps because of the holidays, the traffic has been worse? Be careful walking on the streets; do not assume as a pedestrian you have the right of way anywhere!
You read about doomsday scenario about the country's Economy in most publications; well I am not sure this has really reached the Kiev public. I saw no evident of panic. Ukrainian rich spend money like it is going out of style. It is still common to see flashy cars driven by 22 year old girls and boys of the wealthy.
I went over lunch today to Maiden where they have photos of the recent dead due to the recent political events\war. I ended up contributing to 7 different collector boxes as every regiment in the armed forces and hospital serving the military in Ukraine is raising funds separately. If true, this does not surprise me entirely.
I am here for another week or so. I will do another report after I get home. I guess the question some of you may be asking is " is it worth going to Kiev to monger still? I am not sure I have an answer for you so far. Maybe by the end of next week, I will have more to say about that.
PM if you have any questions and I will try to answer. As always I am willing to share contacts with those who have shared with me or contribute to the forum adequately.
I hope this helps.
Dion Cassius
12-30-15, 00:30
I am in Kiev for 4 days, I will try Gia if they are not closed for the holidays. It may be a bit pricey but I hope the girls are worth the expense.
Poker Player 2
12-30-15, 02:55
I am in Kiev for 4 days, I will try Gia if they are not closed for the holidays. It may be a bit pricey but I hope the girls are worth the expense.I stopped by RIO tonight on my way home. I spoke with the manager and some of the girls and they are closed on December 31 2015 and January 1, 2016. Their website only indicates that they are closed on January 1st but that is not what the employees tell me.
I hope this helps.
Gents,
Newbie here and I read the forum very very well. I tried to call Minuet and many other web sites and they do not speak English at all. And calling Gia is not an option for me (for obvious reasons) .
So many experts here, and they talk about callings escorts but I bet everyone that says that knows local languages. Is that true?
Can anyone suggest how to call an escort service in Kiev? With No Russian or Ukrainian Language skills? May be hotel staffs may help? Or its not possible to use google translator on an ongoing conversation!!
Please shed some light.
Thanks,
R
Background:
I have visited Kiev for hobby purposes 8 times since 2009. However, this is my first trip since the summer of 2012. Kiev has been unusually warm this December with highs of 8 C. However, this will change next week as the temperatures will drop to a low of -11 C! The current exchange rate is 24.5 UAH to a Dollar and 26.5 UAH to the Euro. I am on the wrong side of 50, know some Russian and do not have a particular budget- which means, within reason, I spend as I see fit. I have a good size black book with lots of telephone numbers of girls from my previous trips and I have done my homework mostly on Mamba before landing in Kiev. I have setup evening dates for the first two nights of my arrival. I have rented an apartment in the center close to many EU embassies in Kiev.
Safety:
I know this has been discussed extensively in the forum recently. The center appears to be void of any police presence. I am not sure I have seen any police officers or vehicles since I arrived. I am not sure if this is good or bad as Ukraine police's reputation is less than stellar! Private security guards appear in front of most embassies though including the German and the Swedish. Some reports had expressed safety concerns. Frankly, I had never been concerned about my personal safety before in Kiev and walked the City streets at all different hours but I must confess this trip I have been more careful as there are more dangerous looking elements on the streets of the center. Let us not over react here, I still do not believe Kiev is any less safe than London, New York or Paris. So let us keep things in perspective but yes safety situation in Kiev is not as good as before.
Prices:
If you think Kiev is a bargain because of the current exchange rates or the state of the economy in Ukraine, you are in for a shock...Hiya. Thanks for the post. Most helpful. I was in Kiev back in the days of River Palace in 2006. I am going back on 01 Feb and my research leads me to believe that the only agencies are the ones who are "regulated" with all others being hounded out. I have 3 nights. Was considering GIA for a duo for the first night, massage / sauna day 2 and then club day 3. Any tips please?
Has anybody ever dealt with these people?
http://www.fimservices.net
Looks convincing, but has scam potential.
AColonizer
01-06-16, 17:28
I am sure that most experienced mongers are thinking: "You are crazy!
What is the meaning of a lot of reports discussing about "100 $ for an overnight" when there is still people ready to pay 100/200 $ per hour + airfare + accommodation, again and again and again?
In this cruel world, I would be born female!
Hiya. Thanks for the post. Most helpful. I was in Kiev back in the days of River Palace in 2006. I am going back on 01 Feb and my research leads me to believe that the only agencies are the ones who are "regulated" with all others being hounded out. I have 3 nights. Was considering GIA for a duo for the first night, massage / sauna day 2 and then club day 3. Any tips please?
I am sure that most experienced mongers are thinking: "You are crazy!
What is the meaning of a lot of reports discussing about "100 $ for an overnight" when there is still people ready to pay 100/200 $ per hour + airfare + accommodation, again and again and again?
In this cruel world, I would be born female!Haha. The reality of life is short time = expensive.
What is a man to do if he wants perfection! Alas I am spoilt with my choices in London which is the best in the world for punting. I'm only going to stock up on cheap fags hehe!
If you are able to direct me to an alternative agency, where I am not going to get clipped beyond that that I already know. Then please do share.
I have found a few and am in contact with them but at some point decisions. And reservations need to be made.
I'm going Monday. Thursday so rich pickings in clubs etc is probably unlikely and I require certainty.
I must say flights and accommodation are very reasonable.
Back in the day I pulled this yummy hottie. Who asked me to bite her nipples whilst we were walking in the park. And there I was trying to be romantic hahahahehe.
Alas it seems by the general reviews that Kiev is not at all what it used to be. However I remain open minded, adventurous and ready for a giggle.
Poker Player 2
01-07-16, 08:31
On December 31,2015 I called the GIA agency and was surprised that they were open and serving clients. Only 3 girls were available and Ksusha was to arrive within the hour. She was at my apartment within 30 minutes. I visit Kiev often and I have used GIA in a pinch in the past and have been fine with them. I speak ok Russian. Kshusha's English skills is described as basic on their website and I think that is fair. Upon her arrival, I open a bottle of champagne and offer her chocolate truffles. Ksusha explains to me she really only wants to stay for one hour only as she is busy tonight. I tell her that should be fine with me. We soon get down to business and I finish my first pop within 10 minutes. At this point, Ksusha starts to get dressed to leave! I smile and gently lead her to the bedroom and invite her to give me a back massage. I am about ready for the second pop. After 40 minutes after her arrival, she tells me she needs to get dressed to leave. I tell her that my one hour is not up but she tells me she needs to 20 minutes to get dressed. I tell her that I am displeased and that I will telephone the agency and let the m know. Ksusha shrugs her shoulder, smiles and says " Next time" and walks out of my apartment.
Kshusha is unhealthily skinny, has scratch marks and bruises on her body which she attributed to her cat. Her oral performance was adequate, her massage was very poor, appeared to be sick with a cold and had runny nose. In short, I now wish I had not accepted her BBBJ. I think the photographs on the GIA website are accurate but obviously show her in the best possible way. In short I was underwhelmed by her appearance and performance.
I do not often bother writing letters or reviews to be honest but this time I decide to follow up. My review on the GIA website has yet to be posted; I guess the reviews are "moderated". I always wondered why GIA mostly has very positive reviews posted on their website. It took me until after 13:00 the next day to get hold of someone at the GIA agency telephone number. This is when my annoyance changed to anger talking with the telephone attendant. I think before I spoke to Inna\Nina, I would have been ok with a simple apology up to this point. Inna or was it Nina tells me that it is new year, that Ksusha is a good girl and that I should not be so angry. I try to make the point that if Ksusha chooses to work on December 31 and accepts $250 for one hour of work, then she should honor her obligation but I am getting nowhere with this lady. I demand to speak to a manager at GIA and to have my review posted on their website. At that point, Nina puts the telephone down on me.
I have been to Ukraine often and I am familiar with this level of customer service. Gentlemen, there are many, many other businesses offering this type of service with similar service levels but at much lower prices. Gia simply fails to justify being high cost producer based on their quality of service. Please let the buyer be aware.
SugarBabyKiss
01-07-16, 23:48
Guys,
Is this escort service website real? They have some hot girls and interested if this website is legit and not fake.
http://escort-models.com/
Guys,
Is this escort service website real? They have some hot girls and interested if this website is legit and not fake.
http://escort-models.com/Fake. 100%. User Google + Picture Search. You will find Porn-Stars from every country on that page. The only real thing (that I saw) was the Gia-Add (caryonline.com is a mirror site made by Gia).
SugarBabyKiss
01-08-16, 16:26
Fake. 100%. User Google + Picture Search. You will find Porn-Stars from every country on that page. The only real thing (that I saw) was the Gia-Add (caryonline.com is a mirror site made by Gia).Thanks. Can you link all those real escort agency websites that have some very high quality girls? All the fake ones around. And Gia's girls aren't that hot as well.
Fake. 100%. User Google + Picture Search. You will find Porn-Stars from every country on that page. The only real thing (that I saw) was the Gia-Add (caryonline.com is a mirror site made by Gia).Was in Kiev from 2 December till 24 December. Original plan was to stay 5 days but I enjoyed it so much that I extend my visit 2 times. Some people pay crazy prizes in Kiev. Never forget that the average salary is around 3000 grivna. Euro exchange rate was 26.9 grivna that time. I am an experienced monger. Lived six years in a hotel on soi 6 Pattaya (yes one of the most famous prostitution streets in the world), one year in Angeles city (Philippines) and manila and long time in Cambodia and Shenzhen, Bedded more than 1000 girls. The price for ST is between 300 and 500 grivna and that is what the locals pay with exception till 800. Just use the website ukrgro.com ,kievlady.com . Minuet. Biz, sexkiev.net ,top-modals.com , the best is ukrgo, always let a local call for you and never ever mention you are foreigner!!Discuss price, real photo, services in advance. Don t deal with agency, deal with private persons, You can guess on the website if the picture is real and work for themselves. Once I met a beautiful 18 years mamba girl at Shato, she wanted 1000 gr. For one hour, I showed her the websites that is too much, so I refused, she walked angry away. After 2 days got a message she accept 500 gr. Deal, the funny thing was she stayed 4 hour in the hotel and after we went boozing. Some say that mambo girls want than more 2000 - 3000 , this is absolute crazy it is a month salary. Kiev is absolute cheap, thanks to Putin, war, economy -6. 8 percent, devaluation, For example 3 beers and 4 vodka orange juice double shot 135 grivna at porter bar (a famous bar chain with often 50 percent discount), 12 grivna for a good cappuccino on the (40 eurocent) the street, taxi to airport 6 km 75 grivna, barrel local beer Obolon 50 l is 450 grivna, barrel 30 L Belgium beer Stella 30 liter is 750 grivna in my country Belgium 87 euro. Big difference, yezz it is the real stuff, 20 grivna vodka orange, screw driver at a disco name free trade zone (only locals know) a pint of beer 16 grivna at the most local bars. I am not write a report to promote Kiev or Ukraine, but it is damned cheap. Short time and blow job is cheaper then Thailand and Philippines, overnight not. Thank you devaluation. What to do in Kiev? It is a carousel night, local nightclubs (forsage- free zone) karaoke bars (for example name mafia, a chain good food and very cheap) to pick up drunk beauties and bowling. I never go to striptease club, seen enough nude in Pattaya. Kiev is never boring. Tips bring cash money with you get a better rate then from ATM, they do take commission and sometimes they not work, taxi call 579 and they call you back, do speak English, average price 60 grivna fo a trip, safety take taxi door to door, wear a local rabbit hat (Russian chapka) and don t talk when you are drunk come out of the bar, nobody knows you are a foreigner, not like in Thailand Philippines Cambodia Vietnam. , buy a local sim card 100 grivna from kievstar with 1.5 gb data 3 g for mamba, tinder, wechat, viber ect. , go to the media bazar market Petrovka for mp3 music. I know I will get a lot of reaction on the prices for the girls, It is real between 300 and 5500 for an hour, I will post pictures and exact prices if you don t believe in the next report. Again let a local call for you, I was lucky I met one with a car. Perfect English and was my private taxi for all day for 750 gr. More info pm me Will I go back, of course oh yeah, like the long legs girls, man. Only 2 hours flight with wizzair, no need to to Thailand Philippines for sex addiction.
The price for ST is between 300 and 500 grivna and that is what the locals pay with exception till 800. Just use the website ukrgro.com ,kievlady.com . Minuet. Biz, sexkiev.net ,top-modals.com , the best is ukrgo, always let a local call for you and never ever mention you are foreigner!!Discuss price, real photo, services in advance. Don t deal with agency, deal with private persons, You can guess on the website if the picture is real and work for themselves. Once I met a beautiful 18 years mamba girl at Shato, she wanted 1000 gr. For one hour, I showed her the websites that is too much, so I refused, she walked angry away. After 2 days got a message she accept 500 gr.Bullshit. A beauty for 400 grivnias! You have to visit 20 apartments where girls costs 3-4-500 UAH to get that. I was twice in low price apartments, the best girl was a 7, the others around 5 and less. A 5 or a 6 is perhaps a beauty for your friend. Try to chat on mamba and to give her 3-400 Grivnias, you might get a girl after one month of chatting.
Anyway there are plenty of apartments where you can have an average looking girl and sometimes a beauty 8-10, but you must expect to pay a bit more than 3-400 Grivnias. Not so much more, it will be around 700-1200 UAH, it depends on the apartments. Don't expect a BBBJ, what most of men enjoy, you have to pay an extra 500-1000, it depends on the girls.
Top-modals, even if you speak Russian, they said that they will send you a pretty girl, that will do BBBJ for 4-500 UAH. At the end they were two of them, just have to chose. One was a 7, the other a 6. I took the 7 and of course she didn't do BBBJ. You can have some luck, but you will order 5-6 times girls before getting one that suits you.
The rest of your report is absolutely right about cost of living there.
SugarBabyKiss
01-09-16, 14:03
Top-modals, even if you speak Russian, they said that they will send you a pretty girl, that will do BBBJ for 4-500 UAH. At the end they were two of them, just have to chose. One was a 7, the other a 6. I took the 7 and of course she didn't do BBBJ. You can have some luck, but you will order 5-6 times girls before getting one that suits you.Is top-modals a spammy fake website also?
Is top-modals a spammy fake website also?If by spammy, you mean fake photos, yes it is.
More than 90 % of the photos are fake. So the photos you see is not what you get. However you sometimes might get better than what you see.
One trick they use is to ask you to pay 200 UAH for taxi. Most of the time, they come from the center and most of the foreigners live in the center. It means if they use a cab, they will spend about 100 UAH to go and back. So if you don't take the girl, she gets 100 UAH by doing nothing. If they do that 3 times a day and 5 days a week, she gets 1500 UAH a week and 6000 UAH a month, an average salary in Kiev. A nicely way of getting money by using the credulity of foreigners.
Furthermore they might have private drivers, so they will have even less to pay.
Member #4405
01-10-16, 22:39
Was in Kiev from 2 December till 24 December. Original plan was to stay 5 days but I enjoyed it so much that I extend my visit 2 times. Some people pay crazy prizes in Kiev. Never forget that the average salary is around 3000 grivna. Euro exchange rate was 26.9 grivna that time. I am an experienced monger. Lived six years in a hotel on soi 6 Pattaya (yes one of the most famous prostitution streets in the world), one year in Angeles city (Philippines) and manila and long time in Cambodia and Shenzhen, Bedded more than 1000 girls. The price for ST is between 300 and 500 grivna and that is what the locals pay with exception till 800. Just use the website ukrgro.com ,kievlady.com . Minuet. Biz, sexkiev.net ,top-modals.com , the best is ukrgo, always let a local call for you and never ever mention you are foreigner!!Discuss price, real photo, services in advance. Don t deal with agency, deal with private persons, You can guess on the website if the picture is real and work for themselves. Once I met a beautiful 18 years mamba girl at Shato, she wanted 1000 gr. For one hour, I showed her the websites that is too much, so I refused, she walked angry away. After 2 days got a message she accept 500 gr. Deal, the funny thing was she stayed 4 hour in the hotel and after we went boozing. Some say that mambo girls want than more 2000 - 3000 , this is absolute crazy it is a month salary. Kiev is absolute cheap, thanks to Putin, war, economy -6. 8 percent, devaluation, For example 3 beers and 4 vodka orange juice double shot 135 grivna at porter bar (a famous bar chain with often 50 percent discount), 12 grivna for a good cappuccino on the (40 eurocent) the street, taxi to airport 6 km 75 grivna, barrel local beer Obolon 50 l is 450 grivna, barrel 30 L Belgium beer Stella 30 liter is 750 grivna in my country Belgium 87 euro. Big difference, yezz it is the real stuff, 20 grivna vodka orange, screw driver at a disco name free trade zone (only locals know) a pint of beer 16 grivna at the most local bars. I am not write a report to promote Kiev or Ukraine, but it is damned cheap..I totally agree with you.
You can pay 400 - 700 grivna for one girl, good professionals for 1500 grivna.
As I said in my previous post, there are two options to find cheap girls, speaking the local languages or pay a local person hourly to show you where to find the cheap girls.
T.
Some people think just because they pay more they will get the most beautiful women, but it is wrong, what does the beauty mean? It depends on the guy, some guys will say 7 / 10 , some 6/10 and other guys will say 9/10 because our tastes are different, there are many factors, do they speak English? Are they experienced? Are they educated? Are they nice?
SugarBabyKiss
01-11-16, 07:41
If by spammy, you mean fake photos, yes it is.
More than 90 % of the photos are fake. So the photos you see is not what you get. However you sometimes might get better than what you see.
One trick they use is to ask you to pay 200 UAH for taxi. Most of the time, they come from the center and most of the foreigners live in the center. It means if they use a cab, they will spend about 100 UAH to go and back. So if you don't take the girl, she gets 100 UAH by doing nothing. If they do that 3 times a day and 5 days a week, she gets 1500 UAH a week and 6000 UAH a month, an average salary in Kiev. A nicely way of getting money by using the credulity of foreigners.
Furthermore they might have private drivers, so they will have even less to pay.Damn. Is there any legit and real escort service in Kiev?
I won't be having much time to run around clubs in Kiev. I just want to book an Ukrainian hottie (a 9 or 10) to have her in my bed at the hotel where I will be staying. Isn't there anything real? I've seen GIA girls but none of them are 10's there.
Hi everybody,
I'm new on this site.
Some of you met girls on mamba. How do you distinguish prostitutes from "normal" girls on this website?
Some of them write they are looking for sex, among other things. That s a criteria, I suppose.
Did you ask girls who had not written they were looking for sex?
How did they react?
Nobody complained?
Hi everybody,
I'm new on this site.
Some of you met girls on mamba. How do you distinguish prostitutes from "normal" girls on this website?
Some of them write they are looking for sex, among other things. That s a criteria, I suppose.
Did you ask girls who had not written they were looking for sex?
How did they react?
Nobody complained?Ukraine is a poor country and the majority of women experiencing financial difficulties. But that does not mean that you can fuck any beauty. Common mistake that many foreigners do in Ukraine. Sometimes they are too brutal and cynical and frank.
If girl not profit in Mamba (in Mamba a big lot girls for love, friendship etc, not working girls).
You have to write what she,udivitelnaya, nemnogo pogovorit, (little talking about life). Where she learns?
It is the future chef it is the future designers? Very good. You also designer! Then you can feed it with sperm and hard to fuck her) but later!
Let them know that you want to be her friend. Spend a little bit of free time. 10-20 minutes. Hint that you are aware of the difficult situation for Ukrainian girls. (poverty, unemployment etc.) and you could (regularly) to help her.
In Ukraine, many of the girls are very proud but at the same time very eager money. But I is their main problem.
Girl here don't wants to feel like a prostitute even if she sucks two Turkish or Italian dicks in hotel near Kreshatyk street.
And it was all filled with Italian or Turkish sperm.
Turkish and Italian guy is not very fond of Ukraine. Turkish guys are insatiable and promiscuous and often have sex with Ukrainian girls 16-15 and even 14 years. Of course not everyone is like in Ukraine. Poverty. Poverty. I recently had a blowjob for 300 hryvnia (13 USD) with cute girl 19 years but generally pretty girls start at 700-900 hryvnia for local boys. Beautiful student you can seduce for the 1200-1500 hryvnia (50-60 USD). But sometimes you can fuck a pretty girl and for $25-35. But you have to be a little cute and have a sense of humor and a bit attractive.
Nice video. Kievan street girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttGUV--SsxM
Is it Safe to use mamba if you are not a local and don't speak Russian or Ukrainian?
Perhaps there are higher risk to meet crooks?
I suppose that prostitutes that belong to a network have no interest in stealing their costumers, because it would affect the business.
Reliance has always been an important factor in business.
Does someone have a list of hotels in Kiev who are girl friendly?
I spent a few days in Bontiak hotel in December. I brought once a prostitute in my room. They said nothing.
But I m not sure that if I had done it several times, they would have remained silent.
They saw the taxi remained parked just in front of the entrance during one hour. I suppose they understood what was happening.
Good Day to the mongers.
For the past few months I am a regular visitor of this wonderful city. Thanks to this forum. A good reader could get lot's of useful information and as an expatriate and frequent visitor it helped.
After the personal research and experience from the pick up (not a big fan recently. Getting older probably) to the fun-for-cash.
My personal opinion: Kiev-x is one of the best guided sources that can save lot's of time. Even if you do not speak good Russian or Ukrainian. Very straight forward through Google translate. You get the report, the number and even pics at a number of reports. I am not a mamba user as have a certain allergy to the social networking.
Since January I have used this three times and all the three times was pleasantly surprised.
Most recent is Katia. Was found through the report at Kiev-x with the link to top-modals (the pics at top-modals are fake but close to the reality). I was looking for an individual lady at around 30 year old With anal option and basic knowledge of Eng.
Called her myself through the local number. Was pleased with the voice, checked on the service options and address. The apartment is at Lesi-Ukrainki, very convenient and close drive from the very center where I stay, stylish 2 room, classy and very clean. Katia is not a super model but that type of the lady who attracts by her super natural feminine, covers you with attention, but at the same time do not enter your personal space. Relatively smart. English is not fluent but enough to keep up the conversation.
Initially the plan was 1. 5 hours but I stayed for 3 and only paid for 2. The price is 2000 UAH per hour but it is worth it with anal included. No toys, no double penetration but there is an option for BBJ which I refused.
Attached are real pictures from the apartment.
Good luck and enjoy Kiev!
TP
Just saw that there were no pics attached. So the ones in red are from top-modals and in black are real from this apartment.
Good Day to the mongers.
For the past few months I am a regular visitor of this wonderful city. Thanks to this forum. A good reader could get lot's of useful information and as an expatriate and frequent visitor it helped.
After the personal research and experience from the pick up (not a big fan recently. Getting older probably) to the fun-for-cash.
My personal opinion: Kiev-x is one of the best guided sources that can save lot's of time. Even if you do not speak good Russian or Ukrainian. Very straight forward through Google translate. You get the report, the number and even pics at a number of reports. I am not a mamba user as have a certain allergy to the social networking.
Since January I have used this three times and all the three times was pleasantly surprised.
Most recent is Katia. Was found through the report at Kiev-x with the link to top-modals (the pics at top-modals are fake but close to the reality)..
Poker Player 2
03-19-16, 08:58
For those considering using GIA agency in Kiev. In case you did not know the reason as to why they have mostly very positive comments about their girls posted on their website. It is because they monitor all comments and do not allow any real negative feedback about their service. I know this from first hand experience dealing with GIA. They did offer me a discount for the next visit if I did not post my review of Ksusha but I refused as I have no intention of repeating with GIA. GIA refused my review on the ground that the "girl will not get any more business"; even though my complaint was mostly with the Krystina (the operator) who put the telephone down on me when I called to express a concern with the service I had received from Ksusha. I understand they fined the girl who decided to leave our session early. In my experience, GIA agency is one of the more expensive options in Kiev but the service they offer is no better than the much less expensive option. It is like paying for a first class ticket but getting stuck with a seat in the economy section of the airplane. You feel foolish!
Regards,
Poker Player 2.
For those considering using GIA agency in Kiev. In case you did not know the reason as to why they have mostly very positive comments about their girls posted on their website. It is because they monitor all comments and do not allow any real negative feedback about their service. I know this from first hand experience dealing with GIA. They did offer me a discount for the next visit if I did not post my review of Ksusha but I refused as I have no intention of repeating with GIA. GIA refused my review on the ground that the "girl will not get any more business"; even though my complaint was mostly with the Krystina (the operator) who put the telephone down on me when I called to express a concern with the service I had received from Ksusha. I understand they fined the girl who decided to leave our session early. In my experience, GIA agency is one of the more expensive options in Kiev but the service they offer is no better than the much less expensive option. It is like paying for a first class ticket but getting stuck with a seat in the economy section of the airplane. You feel foolish!
Regards,
Poker Player 2.A few years ago, I would have downed Gia and strip clubs like Rio. But I've become a more seasoned hobbyist and it's my opinion that their's no getting around that you will have to grind away to find your gem in Kiev. Agencies, clubs, and parlors give the quickest access to hotties. If Gia finds a fresh nineteen year old skinny Ukrainian, I'm going to give that a try. Worse case, she's not my type and I turn her away at the door.
Poker Player 2
03-21-16, 07:30
Greetings,
Perhaps I was not clear in my previous report about my dealings with GIA agency. Here is a summary: Impressed by the positive reviews about Ksusha on the GIA web site, I booked her for two hours. Our session is going fine with no problems until Ksusha decided to leave after 40 minutes and one pop. I speak enough Russian to express my displeasure and tell her directly that I shall call the agency and complain. Ksusha shrugs her shoulders and gets dressed and is on her way. I complain to the agency operator Krystina who tells me that Kshusha is a nice girl and after much back and forth, she puts the telephone down on me. I write emails to the email provided at the website and attempt to post a review. They eventually respond to my emails and offer a discount for my next booking if I were to withdraw my review (no apologies at any time) which I decline. The GIA agency eventually tells me that they have fined the girl and that they will not allow my review to be posted on their moderated site as " the girl will get no more business". Among other things I had noted that Ksusha showed bruises and scratches in unusual places on her body. When I questioned her, she attributed them to her house cat. Ksusha was also unnaturally\unhealthily skinny. Now, as suggested in my previous post, this level of service in Ukraine and many other countries, is not unusual at all. I am also suggesting that there are many other providers in Kiev who offer similar service at a more reasonable cost. Further more, take the review allowed to be posted on the GIA website, with a pinch of salt: Reviews are very much moderated and management decided which reviews are allowed to be posted or perhaps not all the reviews are written by client????. There is no need to pay top dollar for mediocre service. In short, GIA is among the market leaders when it comes to price but failed in this case to distinguish itself from other, less expensive options available in kiev. I would not dream of telling any of the distinguished members of this forum how they should spend their money, let alone " seasoned hobbyist". I hope this review of Ksusha and my dealing with the GIA agency helps.
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