FKK Artemis - Berlin [Archive] - Page 12

Geko79

07-23-11, 11:23

So I did it. Overcame my doubts / fears. And went to Artemis during my trip to Berlin last week. And loved it! First time in a FKK Club – my previous experiences were only outcalls in several countries, a bad pick-up bar lay in Luzern (Switzerland) last year and a great incall in New Zealand.

My doubts about going to a club were mainly motivated by the fact that I would suddenly face a large crowd of sexy women, and that my penis would take over the thinking, with the risk of resulting in mediocre sessions. Saying « no » to a woman who might be stroking you under the bathrobe seemed a terribly difficult task. And there was also the fact that I'm a newbie to the scene – would girls and other male guests read that on my forehead as if it was written in blinking neon letters? Would the women be aggressive (I think I read too much about 'sharks' in this forum thread)?

The fact was – no. The other male guests don't care – they obviously did not come here to build life-lasting friendships. And at no moment I felt overly pressed by a girl. But let's take things in order.

The main thing that made my first-time visit to Artemis a success was the expert advice I received from senior forum member and Berlin scene expert Angus Magee, who kindly accompanied me to Artemis. He showed me around the place, explained the dos and don'ts, offered advice about some of the girls, and did an overall excellent job to make me feel comfortable. It felt great to discuss all this openly with a person like him. At some point our discussions even deviated into quantum and particle physics. It was definitely worth paying his entry fee. It helped me overcome a certain uneasyness, somehow I did not feel like a newcomer anymore, and maybe I was less of a prey to sharks than a guy alone.

What to say about Artemis in a thread dedicated to Artemis? My impressions were positive from the beginning on, it's clean, large, nicely decorated (not that I would like to have that style in my house though!) and professionally run. I didn't use the sauna or the pool, nor a Kino, and did not venture into the restaurant (apparently not about to receive a Michelin star).

After an extensive discussion with Angus downstairs, we ventured in the main bar and started observing the action from a sofa on the side of the room. We had turned down maybe a couple of girls when Luciana from Brasil (mid-twenties?) sat in the middle and started talking to us. I liked her body and her attitude, and thought what the hell – let's go for it! It was pretty busy at that moment in the club and we had to wait about ten minutes for a room. When room 7 became available, she decided that it was too small for me (I'm over 190 cm tall) and we waited for a bigger one. That was very nice of her, and Angus later confirmer that 7 was one of the rooms to avoid (the other one being 14?). Anyway, we got to the room, and I was unfortunately a little nervous (or maybe worn out from my week of meetings in Berlin). Luciana had to try her best to get my erection going, and I was really glad I took an entire hour. The sex was good – not great but really not bad. And the massage was very relaxing – the girl has great massaging skills. Overall an OK-ish session with a very nice girl. When I mentioned it to Angus later in the bar, he told me it was probably the same girl he fucked the first time he came to Artemis in 2008 (

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=807930&viewfull=1#post807930

).

After a shower and relaxing in the pool area, I went to the main bar again. There, Angus spotted one of his favourites, and I started talking to two Romanian girls sitting at the bar. I had a blonde girl in mind and wanted to politely refuse their avances, but something caught my interest, and I went upstairs with one of them, Luana (after refusing the double though). That was the best decision of the day – hell no, of the month at least: Luana absolutely blew my mind (and my dick). Already when I followed her upstairs, I saw her perfect ass bouncing in front of me and got a raging hard-on – no massage needed here!

But the thing that really worked between us was the chemistry. It was great fun talking to her (she is obviously very intelligent and well educated, and speaks god german and english). Her GFE attitude was great, and at some point she started tongue-kissing me although she had made it clear earlier that she would not do that. In my opinion, she has a stunning body, and great ass. She performed a great BBBJ while I fingered her, then she squatted on my dick facing me (with the high heels on) for a few minutes without seeking support with her hands (she's got some muscles!). No lube needed here, unlike my previous session. Luana was already very wet. We switched to doggy-style, her favourite position, and unless I'm totally mistaken or easy to mislead, she reached an orgasm here. It was exciting to wach myself fuck her in the mirrors in that room – I had never had the possibility before. I came too – orgasm no. 1 with Luana. But somehow she was not satisfied, nursed me back to health and this time it was me on top in a few slightly different positions. Orgasm no. 2 with Luana. Time for some chatting and a cigarette. She laughed when I told her my age (32) and replied that she was 42. Difficult to believe with the perfect body of a 25-year old. Maybe she was joking, but I'm still not sure. Only the few wrinkles in the corner of her eyes might indicate she's in fact not 25 any more. She told me she had started at Artemis only the week before. She also mentioned that sometimes it felt like working in a hospital but did not elaborate on that.

At some point I got horny again, and asked her for a 30-minute extension. I declined the CIM she offered and this time I finished her from behind (doggy-style and then spoon, with her lying flat on her stomach) just because of that perfect ass (did I mention that already?). I had wanted to switch to reverse cowgirl, but it was too good like this. Orgasm no. 3 with Luana, and a second one for her as well.

Overall the best fuck of my life so far, an absolutely great feeling with the girl! Would definitely repeat! If you want to spot her, she has medium-long auburn hair, and a half-moon shaped tattoo on her left shoulder (and a perfect ass). Not someone I will easily forget. I would love to hear what others think of her.

So, I had a very positive impression of my first visit to Artemis. Exhausted. 400€ less in my pocket, but no uneasiness, no ripoff, no upselling, and an outstanding session. And let's not forget my guide Angus whom I would like to thank profusely again. We parted ways at 4 am at the S-Bahn, which started running again at that time.

I should also mention that I was at Artemis on a Wednesday – lingerie day – and I really liked that. OK – sometimes you could get surprises when the last bit comes off. But I find it a lot more erotic than all girls running around naked. Maybe I will change my mind if one day I come back on a regular day.

And what a good thing I'm not living in Berlin (although I would like to!) – it's better for my wallet.

So, thanks for reading all the way down, it's a long post but I felt I just had to write out my first experience at an FKK club for the forum.

Pharisaer

07-26-11, 07:53

So I did it.Congrats.

7 was one of the rooms to avoid (the other one being 14?)Quite correct. The other room to avoid is number 14, a very small and dark one, bad air sometimes.

It was pretty busy at that moment in the club . I should also mention that I was at Artemis on a WednesdayIt wasn't either really busy nor crowded. Wednesday Artemis seems usually quite calm, except during some fairs. Maybe you visited Artemis during fashion week in July?

Geko79

07-27-11, 07:52

It wasn't either really busy nor crowded. Wednesday Artemis seems usually quite calm, except during some fairs. Maybe you visited Artemis during fashion week in July?It was on last Wednesday, July 20th. We had to wait about 10 minutes for a room with the first girl, and +-2 hours later there were 3 rooms available when we went upstairs. Angus thought it was a bit crowded for a Wednesday.

Pharisaer

07-27-11, 17:26

It was on last Wednesday, July 20th. We had to wait about 10 minutes for a room with the first girl, and +-2 hours later there were 3 rooms available when we went upstairs. Angus thought it was a bit crowded for a Wednesday.I visited Artemis last Wednesday too but left the bordello at midnight or so. Maybe Artemis became more busy past midnight.

SuppenHuhn

07-27-11, 22:04

Well, I knew it. Normaly I ask for CBJ, but this time I did not. Don't ask me why I did not do it this time. Had BBBJ from two girls and now two days later I have for sure a STD (same symptoms as last / first time I had a STD). When I know witch one I have (some days to get the result) should I call Artemis and tell witch girls I went with so the girls can do something about it?

I have a feeling that no one really cares anyway.Any news?

You have written about a delicat topic.

And I think you should give us some information.

Rintin4

07-28-11, 04:13

Hey there,

Would FKK be the best option from a cost perspective if I am interested in having 2-3 girls at once?

Angus Magee

07-28-11, 08:39

Hey there,

Would FKK be the best option from a cost perspective if I am interested in having 2-3 girls at once?From a cost perspective definitely not. Though it does depend a bit on what exactly you want the girls to do. If it is a session where they concentrate on you, no g / g interaction, it is not so bad. If you want the lesbi-show, costs skyrocket. Plus you have to factor in the entry fee. Generally the only advantage offered by the FKK would be the chance to interview the girls before hand.

This topic has been discussed and excellently analyzed by Charlie123 if you care to do a search.

Nille Copenhagen

07-28-11, 11:18

Hey there,

Would FKK be the best option from a cost perspective if I am interested in having 2-3 girls at once?I'm not totally agree with AM, sure Artemis is not cheap for this purpose,

Since you ask for FKK in general I'll advise, go to NRW, clubs like GT, LR, VV, PHG. I've done threesomemany times here.

Is quite affordable to have sex 2-3 girls at once, if you know the girls and they like you sometimes light lesbo-show is included, depends on your negotiation skills and how long you would have fun with the girls. IMO fun with 2-3 girls should min. Be 1H. It's good money for the girls they share the work and can relax more and get less fucked.

Angus Magee

07-28-11, 17:24

I'm not totally agree with AM, sure Artemis is not cheap for this purpose,Point taken. As he was asking in the Artemis thread I answered from the perspective of duos at Artemis. You might well find it cheaper in other FKK. Artemis is pretty well the most expensive FKK.

AM

Euro100

07-29-11, 03:13

Well, newbie to Artemis at least.

Artemis is easy to find on the Halenseestrasse 32, and about a 15-20 minute taxi ride from the main train station. I am attaching a picture of the outside. This is not my picture, but one that you can find on the streeview feature of google maps. I kinda wonder how many wives have spotted the family car in that picture.

Since it's been a long time on this thread that a description of this place has been given, I'll do it here. Hopefully some other newbie will find it useful.

Artemis is one of the largest clubs in Germany. You enter on the street level, pay your €80, and receive your bathrobe. Micro-lockers for your valuables are right there, and then you enter the locker room with pretty standard amenities. Which unfortunately also means push-button showers with very short operating time intervals. Also on the first floor is the main lounge (smoking!) with a big bar, a stripper pole and a separate stripper cage and comfortable seating on sofas and chairs for about 50 to 60 people. Towards the back end of the main lounge is the restaurant on one side and a kino on the other. They serve dinner starting at 6 pm. The food is definitely way better than at Oase (not saying much!) , and almost on par with what you get at the Palace or FKKW, but definitely below Paradise.

The main lounge is ground zero. If you want a little more quiet and non-smoking, then head down the winding staircase to the basement. Here you find another kino and a fitness room to your left and the wellness area with hamam, two massage tables, a couple of saunas, a nice pool, three more showers, and a couple of dipping basins to your left. There is another (non-smoking!) bar just beyond the wellness area. This whole area is great for relaxing, reading, or sleeping off your jetlag. Not many girls venture down there, and the whole floor provides an almost perfect retreat. You can also go outside from here, but that part of the club really blows.

There are a few rooms on the basement level behind the kino, and there are a couple of beds in the main lounge (for semi-public action, if this is your thing) , but mostly the deed is consumed in the rooms on the second floor. The five rooms that I sampled all were clean, nicely furnished, with plenty-big beds.

The interaction with the girls seems just right. Yes, they come by and ask if you would like company, but they are not nearly as pushy as at the Palace. Interestingly, I interacted with a couple of former Palace girls, and their behavior was different here than in Frankfurt. Go figure! There were about 30 to 40 girls present on both evening I was there, and the lineup was great in terms of looks.

My first €60 went to Shelby, who provided a very sensual S&F session of standard FKK quality. The girl has a tremendous body and pretty face; good start. I thought I had previously sessioned with Shelby at another club, but was not sure. Anyway, she smiled and waved at me all evening.

Then I was approached by a girl that I was certain I had had the pleasure of poking before. But I could not remember. Long story short, this was Czech Nina from Finca Erotica. She had also worked at FKKW under another name, and I had had some of the most memorable sessions with her there in 2004 and 2005. After I made the connection, I could simply not believe that I did not recognize her right away. This is proof: Too much mongering makes the memory go bye-bye. Anyway, great couch action in the downstairs kino and very good session with Nina. Alas, not even close to what we had going 7 years ago. I could not make her come. Sigh, seven years of regular plowing have changed her! BTW, she still looks awesome, and her posture is still better than perfect.

On my second night I started out with Rommie from Spain. I had just sent away three or four girls with the excuse that I needed a break, when Rommy entered and stood by the bar. I decided on a sneaky version of the polar bear pounce, got up from my seat, walked by Rommie, smiled at her, and announce that I would head for the kino. Of course she followed me after only 10 seconds, and there we started with some great couch action. Rommie is blonde by choice, and she has the body of a centerfold. Her headlights are bolt-ons, but incredibly nicely done. It is very hard to detect this from the feel, and the only way I saw this is by noticing the small incisions on the lower side of her breasts, when I went for DATY. Very enjoyable session, and one that she also seemed to enjoy very much. I lasted almost 30 minutes, and it was the best ride of the entire trip.

Linda (black straight, shoulder-long hair) from Hungary looks a lot like this very hot executive assistant that I know. So when she came over to snuggle up to me on the sofa, I knew that there was no sending her away. Again a totally enjoyable session. I popped a bit on the early side, though, because I was thinking about that executive assistant.

My last encounter was the only dud. Meike is a very pretty natural blonde from Germany, fairly tall, with nice perky breasts. Pretty smile, too. I had been charged up by watching the two strippers, who performed and then simply vanished. Strip tease shows in an FKK seem like an epically stupid idea, but somehow this does something for me. So, I was pumped, and my defenses were down. Meike looks a lot like one of the strippers, and so I basically just grabbed her and we went upstairs.

Meike told me (in German) that she would not kiss on the mouth, nor allow CIM, but would do BBBJ. Apparently my German is not as good as I thought, and I understood that she would only do BBBJ if I paid extra. This instantly cost me my wood. After talking it over and clearing things up, Meike did a commendable job giving mouth to mouth to my soldier and getting him back to full attention. On the with rubber, and she mounts me cowgirl. Good so far. But there is a way to do cowgirl so that both enjoy it, and there is also a way that it is the equivalent of a hand job. And that was the case here. The girl was really really not into this session. I decided that we would do mish, where I can control the motion. I slowly worked up the pace, trying to get her involved. Slowly, but slowly, her faked moans started to sound more real, we started to sweat (in a good way!) , and I was well on my way. I thought. Until I tried to kiss her, and she turned her head away. Right then I knew that the moment was gone for me. We went through a couple more positions, but it was more and more listless. Oh well, can't win'them all. If kissing is important to you, Meike should be avoided.

Bottom line: Artemis is a great club. Yes, it is a bit more expensive, but I will definitely go again when in Berlin.

Angus Magee

07-29-11, 07:55

Thanks for the report. I will post to the RofD thread. It should be noted that the picture off google os quite old and out of date. The building in the right mid part of the frame is no longer there and there is a large privacy wall, starting where the brick post sits in the photo, encircling the parking lot now to keep out prying eyes.

AM

Euro100

07-29-11, 21:58

Yes, agreed, the google streetview picture is from a few years ago. Now the excuse that you were parked in that parking lot to check out new tires is no longer valid.

Oliver Huntemann

07-30-11, 13:22

During fashion week in beginning of July I had two nights at Artemis.

First night. Place was quite busy. I picked a blond busty girl from Germany or Poland called Eva. Very nice tits and had a decent session with her. Fucked her missionary and it was ok.

Second session same evening was enjoyable. I met Kimi, platinum german blond which usually works at Palace. She recognized me and we had a nice session. Fucking, sucking, fingered her pussy and did CIM. Was very enjoyable put she said she would not work at Artemis. Liked Palace better she said.

The day after I went again. Fooled around and danced with some girls and ended up fucking a girl which I don't know the name of. Slim perfect body, brunette with a really tight pussy. Fucked here in the KINO upstairs which was a kick. Some guys watching and I thought it was fun.

Always a nice time at Artemis

Optimist

07-31-11, 17:15

Hessen Bub

07-31-11, 19:48

Nina / Andrea. Sweet memories, good ol' times at World. Sigh.

HB

Boofer

08-01-11, 16:18

How is the line up? Will the club be empty curtesy of August and vacations?

Angus Magee

08-01-11, 16:36

How is the line up? Will the club be empty curtesy of August and vacations?Artemis is never really empty. Of course the line up is a little down so if having a huge selection is important to you, best not visit in August. But in my experience summer is one of the best times to visit Artemis. The best visits I have had are often in these off times. The line up is good and the atmosphere is more relaxed. If possible, later in the week is better than earlier.

AM

Euro100

08-02-11, 04:50

That was a surprise for you. After six years maybe one doesn't want to start all over again? Nina. Still stunning, and in fact more relaxed, so maybe the difference is in us? Worth a trip just for a lookReally, the surprise was that I could not immediately remember who she was. I thought I would never ever forget her. There are only a handful of working girls with whom I ever thought I had a deeper connection, and she was one of them. Like Hessen Bub says in his post below: SIGH!

The Limey

08-09-11, 22:31

Can anyone please explain why there is now a sign on the sauna door forbidding entry to dogs?

The mind boggles.

Angus Magee

08-10-11, 09:25

Can anyone please explain why there is now a sign on the sauna door forbidding entry to dogs?

The mind boggles.Well. Germans do tend to take their canine friends everywhere so maybe it has to be said? Or someone is making a rather bad joke at the expense of some of the less genetically blessed ladies.

Or may dogs just simply are not allowed. Begging the question-who did let the dogs out?

AM

ZimmerBaby

08-10-11, 16:23

could someone please give me a brief description of shelby? age, looks, nationality etc. i didn't fint anything relevant by using the search engine. spent so much time at artemis without meeting her.

off topic: i had an unpleasant experience while waiting for the s-42 ring bahn at neukölln some days ago. i love ladies, but i enjoy music even more, so as always i had my b&w headset on daydreaming when i suddenly found myself standing next to this beautiful artemis-girl, lets call her her little paprika. maybe i had this getting-surprised-expression in my face which lasted a 1/10 of a second, but i chose to look at another direction to respect her integrity, but her face turned quickly red and she almost ran away like she had met the devil himself. she went far away and disappeared in the crowd. my reaction was to become perplex and later a bit sad, but still after a few days i sometimes think about this incident. my existence made her almost freak out. her central nervesystem and hormonally system responded this way. there must be a reason for this. i really can't tell what and i haven't had any negative episodes with her or any other girl. 2 sessions with this girl long time ago, she actually attacked me in the kino while i had one of my post-session german language courses chilling out in the upper kino. she went automatically in the 69 position (so full of self-confidence and sweet bodyfluids) that i surrendered to her blitz-krieg warfare and accepted my destiny by enjoying her sweet mango.

i once read a book about abnormalities in psychology amongst human beings regarding sexual issues. theories about prostitutes, us guys, their and our childhood, our common promiscuous behaviour, some of these girls are sexually abused and raped, some doctors of psychology equating buying sex with [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) (i presume some feminist left wingers). it can be hundreds of reasons for this. don't know if i want to meet her again at artemis.

just once before i have met one of these girls outside and she jumped off her bike and we chatted for a short while. very nice indeed

i just needed to get this out of my system, because as you can see i cannot discuss this with my mother.

hugs from el diablo

The Limey

08-10-11, 22:41

I suddenly found myself standing next to this beautiful Artemis-girl, lets call her her Little Paprika. Maybe I had this getting-surprised-expression in my face which lasted a 1/10 of a second, but I chose to look at another direction to respect her integrity, but her face turned quickly red and she almost ran away like she had met the devil himself.
I once read a book about abnormalities in psychology amongst human beings regarding sexual issues.Nothing abnormal about this. If a woman is aroused, blood goes rushing to the face and pussy. For you those sessions had been casual encounters, but they obviously made a big impression on Paprika. Suddenly she saw you at the train station, and she started getting all of these reactions out of context. Of course she was confused, wavering between attraction and social anxiety. The adrenaline activated a classic fight-or-flight response, and flight it was.

SuppenHuhn

08-11-11, 10:22

London Traveller

08-11-11, 20:28

@Zimmerbaby.

Shelby is a maybe 30 years old girl from CZ. She has long dark straight hair and big breasts (D-Cup).

She is not so often in Artemis.

I'm not sure but I think she sits together with Maketa sometimes.Shelby must be younger than 30! I like her a lot and think she is gorgeous. She looks like a porn star. I think her breasts are bigger than D. Maybe DD or even E. She is friends with Marketa and they will work together. If you see Shelby around take her to the room immediately. She is hot!

Angus Magee

08-12-11, 09:45

I just needed to get this out of my system, because as you can see I cannot discuss this with my mother.

Hugs from El DiabloHi Diablo (ZB) ,

I think you did the right thing here. I have met several working girls outside the normal meeting spot (never an Artemis girl). What we have to be aware of is that we never know if she is with someone who does not know of her working life. So best not even really acknowledge them (except maybe a glance) and let her make any moves, be it a greeting or, as in your case, a flight response.

It is always a bit weird no matter what she does. I can remember one time, many years back when I was totally secretive about my mongering habits, standing in a movie line right behind a wg I had banged a few days before. Trouble is I was actually on a first date with a non working girl. Yes I had real dates back in those days. I spent an agonizing 10 minutes or so and was very grateful that, if she noticed me, she pretended not to.

On the other hand I have had a wg treat me as if I was her long lost lover and hug and kiss me as if she wanted to immediately find a motel.

What will be really interesting is how she reacts to you if / when she next runs into you in her working environment. Please keep us posted.

AM

Arctic

08-13-11, 00:27

i once read a book about abnormalities in psychology amongst human beings regarding sexual issues. theories about prostitutes, us guys, their and our childhood, our common promiscuous behaviour, some of these girls are sexually abused and raped, some doctors of psychology equating buying sex with [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) (i presume some feminist left wingers). it can be hundreds of reasons for this. don't know if i want to meet her again at artemis.

just once before i have met one of these girls outside and she jumped off her bike and we chatted for a short while. very nice indeed

i just needed to get this out of my system, because as you can see i cannot discuss this with my mother.

hugs from el diabloit's likely she ran simply for one of two reasons. (1) she doesn't want it known in public that she works at artemis and was afraid that you might say something to tip people off. or (2) she was unsure if you would approach her in a romantic way. since the two of you have had so much intimate fun in the fkk together. most girls don't want to have relationships with the clients outside the fkk. so she probably ran just ensure that didn't happen.

go back to the club and find her. she has no problem with you in a business setting. it's just that she wants privacy in public.

don't believe the hype about prostitutes and "bad childhoods". a lot of people have bad childhoods who don't become prostitutes and prostitutes don't have a higher rate of child abuse in their backgrounds. anything you read to the contrary is propaganda. as is most hype about "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)". neo-feminists and religious types want to get rid of prostitution. they fan this kind of hype all the time.

the reality is. most of these girls get involved in this because it's easy to make money. they're in it for the money. some of them even enjoy the sex.

men are born with physical power. i am a big guy 6'2" and 210 pounds. it really boosts my self esteem and confidence when i can go into the gym and squat 600 lbs. because i am stronger than many men. i choose to make my livelihood from physical work. the more dangerous, dirty, and difficult a job is. the more i like it. not every man is as strong as me. not every man would enjoy hard laborious work. some men look down on my kind of work and think it is for people who are too dumb to do other, more intellectual jobs.

it's the same for women. who don't have physical power but.

sexual power.

women have all the sexual power in relationships. they control who they will have sex with, and under what circumstances that sex takes place. men will go to extraordinary lengths to couple with a sexually desirable female. so here we have women controlling a finite "supply" and men providing an almost infinite "demand". it's totally built for capitalism and it's so much in favor of the women that it isn't even funny. but this is the way nature intended.

i have known many prostitutes who tell me that they love their jobs. aside from the monetary benefits, the ability to retire early, and work when they want. these women have also told me they get tremendous sexual confidence from providing sex for money. that's a common theme i've heard among these women."i love the idea of a man paying me for sex". i know one escort who occasionally goes through the routine of charging her husband for sex just so that she can experience the same turn on with him that she does with her customers. he's fully knowledgeable of what she does (he even participated in a "three way" with his wife when one of her regulars asked if she could bring another man in to fuck her with him during one of their sessions). so he happily pulls out the credit card on those occasions where she demands it.

of course. just as not all men are physically equal. women aren't equal in looks. some are hot enough to be hookers. others not. some are hot enough but look down on hookers, thinking they aren't smart enough to do other things.

the neo-feminists want you to believe that these are powerless women who are forced into prostitution because they have no where else to go. neo-feminists deny that women have sexual power and believe that men and women are basically the same. it' s just the "socialization" that makes women feminine and men masculine. this is bull crap. and is not based in science at all. look at the animal kingdom and you'll see i'm right.

prostitution is pure relationship. you're getting what you want. and walking away feeling good about it. women are getting what they want. and walking away feeling good also.

anything else you hear is propaganda.

Bearsk

08-13-11, 00:47

I had an unpleasant experience while waiting for the S-42 Ring bahn at Neukölln some days ago. But her face turned quickly red and she almost ran away like she had met the devil himself.

She actually attacked me in the kino while I had one of my post-session german language courses chilling out in the upper kino. She went automatically in the 69 position (so full of self-confidence and sweet bodyfluids) that I surrendered to her Blitz-krieg warfare and accepted my destiny by enjoying her sweet mango.I would not over analyse this.

Did you have the taste of sweet mango and little paprika in your mouth after you ran into her at the station?

BSK

Euro100

08-13-11, 04:19

Dogger862

08-13-11, 06:11

The most memorable "out of office" expereince I've had was when I was giving a lecture in a large university in provincial Russia and there in the audience was a stunner from a strip club that I had had a great time with the night before. We made eye contact and she just continued on taking notes like the diligent student she was. I'm just glad I had a lectern in front of me.

Geko, thanks for the report on your first trip to Artemis. Your experience with Luana sounds like my first time at Artemis when I had the session (s) of my mongering career with the stunning Dorean.

Cheers,

Angus Magee

08-13-11, 17:22

Women are getting what they want. And walking away feeling good also.While I agree that women walking away from Angus' session are walking away feeling good, for the rest of you mongrels I think perhaps we should check with the women. ;)

AM

Bearsk

08-13-11, 20:01

At this little known link, girls feedback on the performance the'Magee. Extra 10 euro is on offer for each session, unless its Nina in which case she gets an extra 30 euro, but earns it!

I understand it incorporates a statistics tool.

Angus, are you ready to share your survey and the tabulated results.

While I agree that women walking away from Angus' session are walking away feeling good, for the rest of you mongrels I think perhaps we should check with the women. .

AM

Charlie 123

08-16-11, 01:21

Hi.

A quick report from today's visit to Artemis.

The place was quiet, even for a Monday night. First up was Amelia. 34y / o Romanian blonde looks younger) , pretty face, relatively slim. 2 distinguishing tattoos (one on belly, one on upper LHS). Speaks excellent English. A very pleasant girl. Clicked straight away. She claims to have approached me twice previously in the 12 months that she's been working at Artemis but I don't recall seeing her before. Sweet kisser, nice DFK, very good no-rush BBBJ, prolonged DATY during which she got very wet but didn't quite 'get there', sex in CG and mish. Very enjoyable 1 hour session. Recommended, will repeat.

2nd (extended) session was with Selma, an old favourite of mine, often reported here and no need for repetition on this occasion.

Final session at 1 am with Romanian Diana, ex-Globe, been at Artemis 1 month. Petite platinum blonde with bizarre highlights, pretty, small tits, speaks perfect English. Essentially a shark. Very light kisses, soft but quick BBBJ, fucking in CG and mish during which she moaned ludicrously excessively with ample fake 'dirty talk'. Nice visuals. As I write it, it reads better than it was in reality. Normally this would be exactly the sort of session I'd be looking to avoid, but as it happens, a 10 minute 'suck and fuck' with skinny little blonde was just what I was looking for so I was happy enough. Not recommended at all, no repeat.

Charlie

VikingJumper

08-16-11, 22:22

"Super foam party in the Artemis on August 17, 2011"

"Each guest will receive two free cocktails!"

That's what it says on the website, but given that the last foam party was cancelled due to bad weather I was not sure whether tomorrows party would happen.

To add further to the confusion, the German version of the website still says "Verschoben aufgrund der Witterungsvehältnisse!" in the title (postponed due to the weather circumstances).

So, I called them yesterday to verify, and the answer was a big positive YES."as long as the forecast keeps looking this good".

I expect to show up around 17 and catch some afternoon sun, since the forecast is still lovely in comparison to the last couple of weeks. I usually stop by solo, but would love to meet up with any of you regulars for a chat in between. PM me or look for the curly haired Danish guy.

The Limey

08-17-11, 01:09

Please add a girl calling herself "Shaneen from Berlin" to any and all blacklists.

I've been quite enjoying developing my fornicationships at Artemis, and experimenting from time to time to add to the circle, but with experimentation always comes danger and the risk of stepping on a mine. Shaneen was a perfect angel outside the room, and a giant wasp inside it. A confidence trickster in other words.

She is a very tall thin girl with a pretty face, black / dark hair, and medium natural breasts, and an articulate liar in German and English. Artemis have lost a lot of my business through allowing her to maintain her operation there (amidst all the girls trying to make an honest euro let's not forget).

I admit I was taken in so that you won't be.

Bizzie

08-17-11, 05:09

Hi gents,

I'll be in Berlin in a few weeks for work.

Are there any other qualty establishments near Berlin besides Artemis that I could try.

Thanks,

B.

VikingJumper

08-17-11, 07:12

Please add a girl calling herself "Shaneen from Berlin" to any and all blacklists.

Shaneen was a perfect angel outside the room, and a giant wasp inside it. A confidence trickster in other words.Without having to go into too much detail, what kind of switch did she perform? Just asking out of curiosity so that I might learn from your experience.

Fritobugger

08-17-11, 08:14

Hi gents,

I'll be in Berlin in a few weeks for work.

Are there any other qualty establishments near Berlin besides Artemis that I could try.

Thanks,

B.Try the Germany. Berlin forum. Several brothels mentioned there.

Angus Magee

08-17-11, 09:28

Try the Germany. Berlin forum. Several brothels mentioned there.There is not another club like Artemis (I mean an FKK style) though there is La Folie. As suggested check the Berlin thread for details or my blog some where in the Berlin scene.

http://www.angusmagee.com/

AM

Woof Woof

08-17-11, 22:55

Returned to Artemis this past Saturday. This was overdue as I hadn't been there in more than 3 months. The lineup looked terrific optically and it felt like the girls outnumbered punters even around 17:00. There was no waiting for rooms up until ca. 22h. From 23h, the wait was more like 20-30 min upstairs but considerably shorter downstairs in those rooms with the curtains adjoining the weight room. The ambiance felt correct through the evening. Neither too crowded nor too quiet.

Caught up with Kathleen (. De. 1.60m, blonde with Chinese tats on the back) first with some couch time followed by a 1h session. This girl never fails to turn me on and this time was no exception. Naturally beautiful girl with gorgeous long blonde hair. No PSE but a slow-burning GFE is how I would describe my experience with her. I know reports on Kathleen have been mixed but chuck this up to a classic case of YMMV.

Second session was with Julie (. De, blonde. 1.80m, with silicon tits, blue eyes, prominent tats on legs and several other places). True head-turner from FFM who was busy most of the evening. Mediocre experience as the session was spoiled by too much upselling. Good hands-free BBBJ and great visuals in mish but no repeat here.

Final session was with Patrizia (. Pl, brunette short hair. 1.70m, physical girl with a nicely toned body, don't remember seeing any tats) who quickly made me forget my second session in a hurry with a solid DT followed by an extended hard pounding DS. Patrizia is also friendly and easy-going. Highly recommended.

For fans of Asian girls, there were only a couple there last Saturday night, Inca and her fellow Thai friend whose name I don't remember.

Mac75

08-18-11, 00:00

There is not another club like Artemis (I mean an FKK style) though there is La Folie. As suggested check the Berlin thread for details or my blog some where in the Berlin scene.

http://www.angusmagee.com/

AMLa Folie is a brutal place, nowhere near Artemis in any respects, last time I was there I swore never to go back again and to just stick with Artemis any time I'm in Berlin.

Angus Magee

08-18-11, 11:19

La Folie is a brutal place, nowhere near Artemis in any respects, last time I was there I swore never to go back again and to just stick with Artemis any time I'm in Berlin.Well I don't know if I would say brutal. But then maybe I have been to far worse places in Berlin. But you are certainly right that it does not compare to Artemis. I just mention it as an alternative. After all at 14€ entry (includes a free drink) it hardly breaks the bank to stop in for a look. The last two times I was there I left un-gepopt. For me the most annoying aspect is that the girls tend to ask for a piccolo as soon as they sit down.

Schaumparty

I did make it to the schaumparty last night thanks to RS who I met for a drink before hand. He very kindly offered me the entrance fee. I hemmed and hawed for about two minutes and then accepted.

All in all it was not a bad scene. The party was a bit subdued, though as a the cocktails flowed some girl slipped and slid away with the more boisterous guests. By around 23:00 though in the main bar downstairs there seemed to be a distinct lack of talent. I am not sure why, if they were all in the room or perhaps fixing themselves up after the roof top romp. In any case Charlie and I had a good time comparing notes and RS managed to find himself a honey for the late evening.

More girls did appear after midnight but I knew almost none of them and there seemed to be to many men for the available girls. As my current fave was not anywhere to be seen, and back up plan B (Fatima) was spotted once on her way up to the rooms and then no more, I left un-gepopt. There was one tall slim beauty I more or less decide to contact, went for a shower, and she had disappeared.

In the end I was happy that I managed to get out without grabbing a desperation fuck. Those always leave me with the bad taste of regret the next day

AM

The Limey

08-18-11, 17:41

Without having to go into too much detail, what kind of switch did she perform? Just asking out of curiosity so that I might learn from your experience.I have lots of gory details. I just hope you have a strong stomach.

She basically did everything she could to put me off sex. When we went into the room, she immediately lit up a cigarette to stop me from DFK which she had already promised. Then when I started to feel her up, she said something like,"Oh my God, the whole front of my body is infected! Here's the disinfectant!" And it just went on and on like that. Within five minutes I realized that sex with her was just an impossibility and I contacted the manager. I got a 50% refund, but obviously it should have been 100% with an apology. The problem is that the manager there is quite weak and tends to side with the girls (possibly having been one herself) in any dispute."Shaneen" talked and acted with total fearlessness in front of the manager, as if it were quite routine for her to be brought before her with a complaint, and get let off.

The "room entry rule" along with the biased management tends to encourage a sort of schizophrenic attitude in some girls where they take on radically different attitudes outside and inside the room: the classic "Switch" game. Fortunately there are still a lot of naturally good-natured girls there that I still go with, but it doesn't take many sharks in a sea to make it a no-swim area.

The girl said her name was "Shaneen". That might have been "Janine," but not to be confused with the blonde Janine advertised on the Artemis website. No, this one was a very tall black-haired girl. She said she was from Berlin but after all the lies she came out with later I'm not sure I believe that. I think she was hanging with the Hamburg crowd, and there are some cold fish among that lot.

Pharisaer

08-19-11, 07:17

The girl said her name was "Shaneen". That might have been "Janine," but not to be confused with the blonde Janine advertised on the Artemis website. No, this one was a very tall black-haired girl. She said she was from Berlin but after all the lies she came out with later I'm not sure I believe that.You're right: Your "giant wasp" was Janine, working in Artemis since early summer or so (NOT the blond haired girl on Artemis website). I've noticed her for the first time some weeks ago. She's not from Berlin, but from a area 100 miles west of Berlin.

Member #4285

08-19-11, 21:13

Any news?

You have written about a delicat topic.

And I think you should give us some information.Hi, sorry for taking time to reply, but I'm on holiday, a non mongering one.

I have now forgott the name of the infection, but the doctor gave me both the name of it and the right cure. Not a typical STD he sad, so it was not gonoreha as I first thought. He confirmed that this kind of infection is from unprotected sex, but not called a STD. Ill be back very soon, with CBJ as long as I can enjoy it.

Take care.

Sdrumm

08-22-11, 20:58

This is my personal ranking after two days passed to the Artemis.

All the girls have natural tits.

Fatima from Bratislava, thin, tall, brunette with small tits. Kiss deep, fingers into the pussy.

Great service 9. If she had the face and the boobs of Katlin would be 10.

Katlin o Katrin 30 from Germany Blonde with angel face (for me). Seems more young. Nice.

Good service 8, 5.

Patrizia 24 from Poland. High brunette. Same service of Fatima but face less beautiful 8, 5.

Mandi (two times) from Hungary 20. Brunette. Nice. Good service. Face similar to that of the actress Ornella Muti (when she was young) 8, 5.

Donata 23 from Krakow Poland. Blonde with big tits. Good service. Face of student 8.

Giselle 21 from Slovenia, tall, blonde, doll face, figure 9 service 6, 5.

Lindsey 22 from Hamburg. Blonde. Nice with big boobs. There is of better. 3 piercing, one on pussy 7, 5

Main 23 (I probably misunderstood the name) from Berlin. Blonde. Not that this is not. She is not nice Bad service 5.

I'm sorry for my terrible English

Kimino

08-23-11, 08:29

Angus Magee

08-23-11, 09:22

Hi guys, the title says it all.

I frequenly leave Artemis to find some decent food and come back later. I leave name and take note of my number at the reception and there's no problem.

Can this be done more than once during the same day? I remember reading something but just can't find the message anymore.

Thanks.

KiminoWhile I have not done so I am pretty sure that you can leave and enter as many times as you wish. The website describes the entry fee as a "day pass" which indicates multiple entry within the specified period of a day (11:00 05:00). You might want to check with the front desk but I am pretty certain.

Actually maybe Charlie knows this by experience? If anyone has made multiple entry (in many senses of the word) at Artemis, it is Charlie. ;)

AM

Charlie 123

08-23-11, 10:03

While I have not done so I am pretty sure that you can leave and enter as many times as you wish. The website describes the entry fee as a "day pass" which indicates multiple entry within the specified period of a day (11:00 05:00). You might want to check with the front desk but I am pretty certain.

Actually maybe Charlie knows this by experience? If anyone has made multiple entry (in many senses of the word) at Artemis, it is Charlie. .

AMLOL.

As you suspected, I have checked in and out several times in a day on more than one occasion. It's no problem.

C

Kimino

08-23-11, 10:29

While I have not done so I am pretty sure that you can leave and enter as many times as you wish. The website describes the entry fee as a "day pass" which indicates multiple entry within the specified period of a day (11:00 05:00). You might want to check with the front desk but I am pretty certain.

Actually maybe Charlie knows this by experience? If anyone has made multiple entry (in many senses of the word) at Artemis, it is Charlie. .

AMAhaha. Bet you are right!

I'm sure he knows. :-)

And if he doesn't he is going to find out with me in early September!

Kimino, counting the days to his new Berlin visit.

Galazy

08-25-11, 19:11

Hi guys,

I'm starting to get that Artemis feeling again and I think I need a visit to our favourite club. Has anyone any experience of the Artemis on a Sunday or Monday? I've been there on Thursday, Friday and Saturday and had a great time but I'm a little concerned that it might be dead on a Sunday or Monday.

Thanks.

Angus Magee

08-25-11, 20:32

Rocketboy0

08-27-11, 10:47

Angus Magee

08-29-11, 07:24

Angus,

As this might be of interest to mongers uberal, I am posting this here & Berlin thread.

I got some email from friends in Sweden and Italy who will be down for the IFA next week. They want a tour guide and I will be away.

Does your Geil Guide service offer group rates-both for Artemis and just general bordello boogies? It would be useful to have a pro show them the ropes and advise on particular girls.

Not sure if you can handle say 3-4 guys (as a guide-you pervs can relax) but thought I would ask if there might be some sort of group discount?

Best-RBAs I mentioned over in the Berlin thread, customarily my service is aimed at individuals. However, I see no reason why it should not interest small groups as well. The cost of entry could then be split amongst the guys and it would end up saving a bit of cash. If they are interested have your friends contact me on my blog and we can discuss details. You migh also direct them to Gecko's post about his fun time at Artemis.

http://www.angusmagee.com/

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1179340&viewfull=1#post1179340

AM

Lookoflove7

08-29-11, 23:01

Day 1 Tuesday: Maya and Maya.

New visit to Artemis since last may. Berlin is so attracting and coming there without having some good time in Artemis should be a shame.

Arrived around 8pm. Have a quick look to see if my favorite ones are in there. None of them. Disappointed. (. But many girls I knew / recognized from past visits. Maybe only 20% were new faces.

As usual wait at the stairs to catch the girls coming from session. That is where I think you can find girls having some success which may mean "being good in room" but that is not 100% sure. But that is how I act.

Few minutes passes, and I heard from my back a voice saying 'I know you! ' and a lovely blond passing by me (coming from the ladies dressing room).

That was Maya 'the bees'. Blond girl from Poland. 25-30 years old (she look older than her real age) , perfect body but tall girl (+-1. 60m) , slim (not skinny) , a perfect Barbie doll with incredible pair of eyes.

I already sessioned with her last year. She is a stunning beauty for sure!

I joined her in the main bar and had a quick chat with her. 'You remember me'. 'Yeah, I recognized you. You are so singular from the other guys'. So we went in room.

Her blowjob skills are perfect, she doesn't kiss (I remembered it from last time) but I tried once and she screamed to me 'Bad boy! ' and smile to me so she wasn't that upset!

I wanted anal for my first session. So we did it. Slowly but I couldn't resist to do it faster / harder. That was not ok for her so I finished in / with her pussy.

I was so please from this first session that I met Maya again later in the night.

We repeat the same session without anal this time. She is honestly very professional (which may not be cup of tea of everybody). She is surely one of the girls with the best body in Artemis. You cannot miss her. But being quite 'busy', you have to go to her as when she is coming back from session she sat with her friends in the main bar and wait for somebody to pick her up. This has upset me the next day.

Anyway, she provides good service, speaks good English, is beautiful and told me for an unknown reason I had a 'nice dick' when sucking me and that I was a 'Bad boy'.

LOL7

Lookoflove7

08-29-11, 23:40

Day 2 Friday: duo with Maya and x girl, and Nena.

Last Friday was hot in Berlin. I was burning at the sun all day all and went to Artemis by 8pm again.

I quickly catch up Maya in the locker room. She came back to me with a friend of her which I forgot the name. But she was also blond, bigger tits and taller. Honestly she wasn't my type (too much chirurgical). But Maya was so convincing when suggesting me a duo.

I admit that the duo wasn't my fantasy. But I can now say that I have tried at least once in my life. That was funny but not exciting for me. Maya and the other girl did provide me a good service (being maybe too much professional in such situation) but I would have prefered to be focus on one girl only.

Duo is not my stuff for sure; I would have preferred to be in one to one with Maya again!

Then I started to get bored and came back later in the night. During those days, I have noticed two blond girls being very active: Jane (that I already sessioned with) and Nena (or Nina?) also blond and from Germany (Berlin she told me but I doubt).

After some hesitation (as I wasn't sure she would provide me satisfaction) , I went with Nena. Like Jane, she is a beauty: nice face, great body (but smaller than Jane). Like for Jane, I felt pity for her as with such natural attribute she could / should do something else from her life. But whatever, I not at their place. So I shouldn't comment.

(Again) Like with Jane, Nena is not that much 'exciting' when in bed. I would say that she doesn't give more that her body. OK I fucked her in several positions and she sucked me. But there wasn't any feeling or any simulation form her. Sorry for that, but it is like fucking a dead body. That is not what I am looking for unfortunately.

So I stopped the session and apologies to her as I wasn't feeling anything and was losing my time (and money). I explained her that I was feeling 'bored'. She get upset about me.

I am really a bad boy.

LOL7

Falara

08-30-11, 21:33

Lookoflove7

08-30-11, 22:29

Day 3 Saturday: Brigitta, Brigitta and. Sheenya!

I wasn't supposed to come back on Saturday (following my schedule) but the weather was so awful this day (raining all day in Berlin) so I decided to change my plan.

I had in mind a girl that I have noticed the first two days. (fake) Blond, curvy hair, slim, long legs, enhanced big tits and lips, tattoo all over her left hand (Japanese style with geisha design) and one on her back, a 'B' with wings. At first sight, she wouldn't' be my type at all (I am more into girl next door type or blond beauty). But I had the fantasy in mind this day to start with a '*****' or a porn star type.

So that was Brigitta (from Hungary if I am not mistaken). She has started working at Artemis for few months. This was her last weekend before some holidays / break. She was wearing sexy pinky panties and was very active those last days.

I had two consecutive sessions with her. As suggested I wanted to fuck hard like in a porn movie. She did it with great enthusiasm. My only regret was that I couldn't grab her (fake) tits too much as it was painful for her. But I could fuck her as I wanted in every position suggested. She has absolutely pleased me. I finished in her mouth and surprised her as she didn't expect that much cum.

We did a second round after a short break. I fucked her from behind as fast as I could without stopping. She was shouting to me to change position many times but I refused and tell her I was coming (even though I wasn't). This was like running a 400 meters. After some minutes, I came in her pussy in sweat and exhausted. She was also wet with all my sweat on her back. 'You fuck like a rabbit, baby! '. 'You're a great girl! '.

After those two sessions, I was very happy and exhausted so I was planning to go back to my hotel but I saw her.

She is an angel and my favorite one. I was upset not to see her on the first days and thought she wasn't here for the weekend. But she was there on Saturday night (coming from a week break at home).

Sheenya, the greatest one. I had marvelous and unmemorable sessions with her.

She is more in the 'girl next door' type: blown hair (but originally blond) , curvy and mid long, +- 25 years old, very nice face, beautiful eyes and nice make up (she pay attention to that) , small tits and average size. She was wearing a white corset, pinky shoes and a (fake) diamond belt.

I saw her on the stairs coming back from rooms. She immediately recognized me. Smile and eyes contact. No need to speak, she would be mine in few minutes.

We went in the room upstairs. Kisses, kisses and kisses. So lovely.

'What happen to you since last time? '. 'Nothing, I was just missing you'. 'Ahahahaha! '.

Sheenya is my favorite one for several reasons:

1) She provides very good services in room (especially her blowjob)

2) She speaks very good English (and you can have some conversation with her)

3) She is kind and respectful.

4) She is lovely and adorable.

I won't go into detail but she is from Moldavia and not Rumania as she told me before (but it doesn't change anything).

I came back to Artemis on Sunday only for Sheenya.

I love her.

LOL7

Angus Magee

08-31-11, 07:16

Hi

I'm thinking of visiting Artemis for the first time this September.

I know about the IFA (2-8 sept). Now if I visit this Thursday (the 1 sept) I'm guessing there might be many girls ready for the convention. But maybe not to many costumers. Now that would be a nice scenario. But don't know if I'm right in my guessing?

If I don't make it I'm thinking. How do you think the week (Thursday ore Friday) after the convention will be. Exhausted, and maby not the best time to visit?The Thursday before the IFA is probably a pretty good day to visit. After the IFA is the Asia Fruit Logistica (07/09-09/09/11) which is one of the busiest Messe of the year. After that is another one (PopKomm). So September in general is a pretty busy month. I personally would avoid if possible the really big one. Other than that just go, go early and enjoy yourself.

AM

Kimino

08-31-11, 10:01

The Thursday before the IFA is probably a pretty good day to visit. After the IFA is the Asia Fruit Logistica (07/09-09/09/11) which is one of the busiest Messe of the year. After that is another one (PopKomm). So September in general is a pretty busy month. I personally would avoid if possible the really big one. Other than that just go, go early and enjoy yourself.

AMI might be wrong but I think Asia Fruit Logistica is in Hong Kong. Thanks god. Popkomm will probably not drive too many people.

So the best days to be in Berlin is from mon 5th to thu. 8th! Ahahaha.

Ciao

Rocketboy0

08-31-11, 10:14

Was in the Love Bahnhoff last night Tues. Very very slow, hardly anyone there of either sex, even at 23:00. Perplexing, as it is 1 day before the IFA cranks up. Talked to various staff and team and all agreed it was odd, and they'd seen a slowdown. Perhaps the Eurozone financial instability is rippling through...

At least in the reception area, there is a very flash new architectural rendering of the mythical new wing (yes yes yet to be built, if ever). A rather poor consolation.

The point is, while purists can argue that SUN-TUES are slow relaxed nights and can offer their charms if (a big if) their favorites are there, the selection IMHO is just too limited to justify the risk and more to the point, entrance tythe. Of course this is partly a taste thing, and it will no doubt vary a bit from week to week. But if one is playing the odds as a visitor, the odds increase significantly, in quantity, variety, and quality, later in the week. If you are only in Berlin on the off days, and the alternative choice is your left hand, or the neighbor's dog, well then it's more complicated. If you have the choice to wait, wait...

Last night's low octane might be due to the waves of Messen about to hit Berlin's shores, and all are resting up. But it's far from the first time this has happened and I will not repeat on those days.

Newbies you have been advised. Art's is a different, far better place WED-SAT.

Angus Magee

08-31-11, 11:22

I might be wrong but I think Asia Fruit Logistica is in Hong Kong. Thanks god. Popkomm will probably not drive too many people.

So the best days to be in Berlin is from mon 5th to thu. 8th! Ahahaha.

CiaoMy mistake upon further investigation. I do have to wonder why it is listed as a trade show on the Berlin Messe website?

http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/website/Internet/Internet/www.messe-berlin/englisch/index.html

A

Dornstadt

08-31-11, 15:35

Hi guys, first time poster here.

Was is Berlin for my 40th birthday celebration just this past weekend with 'the lads'. I had two terrible experiences that

Are hard to forget, and one mindblowingly amazing experience that has gone a long way to helping forget the first two.

I'm a virtual novice in these matters, so mistakes were going to be made, despite lurking here for do's and don'ts.

Went to at 13:00 to Artemis this past Sunday and this was the mindblower, and two other, well I'll get to them.

I was with three different girls that day: tall blonde stunner from Siberia, Iris from Romania and Tiffany from Germany.

I went to the Kino first. There was one guy there looking very disinterested who left after a few minutes. I sat at the higher

Back seat and sat for about five minutes, and then. A very slow clip-clop of high-heels got ever closer. And then in came.

A vision. She stood there for what seemed like a whole Spring. A tall blonde with a kind of Monroe-do. Fuck! She was from

Siberia, but I can't remember her name. We went to the nearest cubicle, and she drew the curtain.

I got a wonderful 'erotic massage', and then lovingly administered blowy, and then her on-top-squatting fuck. I'm a dead shy.

Guy, so was dumbfounded for the whole experience. I didn't ask, or even try to kiss her, but she offered cim for €50, but said.

She normally asks €60. I didn't go with that, as I was considering my funds having just arrived. Then had a shower.

I then went to the pool area and sat for about 10/15 mins trying to people-watch to get the suss. When bored with that,

I shuffled up to the bar for the first time, and immediately felt all eyes on me. I sat at the rear of the bar beside the pillar.

And ordered ein Glas Orangensäft. I was trying to avoid all the eye-contact as I just wanted to sit for a while.

Iris then came up to me and I just hadn't the heart to say no to sit with her on a couch. Great little blonde bird from Romania; I made.

A few corny jokes about Dracula. Got a pity-laugh. She sensed my nervousness and helped with doing all the talking for about 15mins.

Then we went to room for a half-hour no-extra sesh. Great little fuck, and I was relaxed enough to kiss her when on top without thinking.

She went with it. I thne went for shower after paying die Rechnung.

I then went for a ages to the wellness area; watched to Grand Prix. 45 mins in the bio-sauna. 15min in pool and another shower.

If I could do again, I would defo bring my own toiletries and my cologne, as it makes you stand out in the fragrance department: the

Siberian chick thought I had beautiful fragrance, and really went on about it and kept smelling my chest area. I believe it was genuine. I

Didn't get the same comments from the others as I smelled just all the other punters. I'm into smells. Can you tell?

After some proper rest and recuperation, I grew a set and ventured to the bar, and took up earlier postion. I had it in my mind to try a brunette.

I turned away about 4/5 chicks who were almost like a conveyer-belt, with one really pushy one in particular with a half-asain look to her; a stunner.

Sitting beside me the whole time was blondie Tiffany from Poland. I could only see her with the corner of my eye to my left.

I told her I was from Ireland and she seemed to think that made me 'exotic'. Ha! I said, 'how are you? ' in Polish, but she hadn't a clue.

What I said. She then quickly went on to say that she moved to Germany when she was a baby. So I caught her out on a little white lie. Tee hee!

Surely having Polish parents would help with knowing a basic Polish phrase. I digress. She was about 33ish and a little fleshy. Yum!

I had a brilliant time in Artemis, but the downside is that it is fucking up with my head; I can't stop thinking about the place, and how soon I.

Can get back there. I'm being really irrational about it, and I'm thinking really far-out things. I'm defo obsessed with getting back, and trying to

Be more asking of the girls. A thing I hadn't considered could happen to me. I just have to get through the next little while and get busy with

Other things in my life.

I'll do a separate post for my two shitty experiences.

Dornstadt

08-31-11, 18:07

Hi guys, first time poster here.

For my two shitty experiences.I have no idea why my post looks like it's second language to me. I didn't type it that way with all the full-stops and capital-letters.

Lookoflove7

08-31-11, 18:09

Day 4 Sunday: Sheenya for ever.

I came back on Sunday and only sessioned with Sheenya. We had two sessions one for ½ hour and a second one of 1 hour.

On the first session, I came on her back in an incredible position. Very exciting. I really love her body. She really provide very good service and pay attention to please you at the most. This is barely not always the case with others girls.

On the second session, we make love for about 45 minutes without stopping alterning several positions and blowjob to keep me hard. I didn't make love like this for years. She was so great!

Social time is really appreciable with her. That is very nice chatting with her. Obviously, she has some education and is interested in life in general. This makes her more than exceptional.

'Nobody loves me'. 'I love you'.

I am not a bad boy anymore.

LOL7

Blue Swede

08-31-11, 19:00

Hi

I'm thinking of visiting Artemis for the first time this September.

I know about the IFA (2-8 sept). Now if I visit this Thursday (the 1 sept) I'm guessing there might be many girls ready for the convention. But maybe not to many costumers. Now that would be a nice scenario. But don't know if I'm right in my guessing?

If I don't make it I'm thinking. How do you think the week (Thursday ore Friday) after the convention will be. Exhausted, and maby not the best time to visit?I use to visit IFA every year and my experience is what also Angus writes, the Thursday before the opening use to be a good day. I will go there tomorrow for sure!

For Friday and Saturday, the advise is: Go early. Beat the rush! After doing your "business", you can stay and watch the crazy situation. It's really amusing.

Maybe see you there!

Blue

Galazy

08-31-11, 19:16

Hi guys, first time poster here.

I told her I was from Ireland and she seemed to think that made me 'exotic'.Haha. I've had a few funny conversations with girls at the Artemis when I tell them I'm Irish. Chats about where they used to drink and work in Dublin and suggestions for where to go on a Saturday night. Fun times.

Angus Magee

09-01-11, 06:51

I have no idea why my post looks like it's second language to me. I didn't type it that way with all the full-stops and capital-letters.Do you type your report straight into the ISG report field or do you use a wordprocessing program and then cut and paste? The software used at the moment does seem to have some formatting issues. Often it will take text and try to correct it. I have never seen anything quite so extensive as what it has done to you report though.

AM

Rocketboy0

09-02-11, 11:48

Was hoping like several others that (yesterday) Thurs night before the mass Messe would offer a bevy of new beauties. Very disappointed. Mostly the usual suspects with a few new very young wafy or skanky wannabbees. Standards just seem to be slipping, and some stunners in the private apartments seem a much better deal overall.

Newbies may find all fine. Of course it's a taste thing & YMMV. But I have to say, as a great former fan, I am worried. Just not enough real women for yours truely. Too young, too much engineering, too little GFE.

It will be a long time before I try again (even with a long summer pause). It really has changed I think. Curious about senior members reactions over the next few days. Over and out.

On this odd double line space posting below - perhaps it is due to using a translator programme- converting from the original Irish, to English?

Nolyn

09-03-11, 01:15

Hello, are the girls naked here?

Bearsk

09-03-11, 08:11

Yes except for wednesdays when they wear underwear.

Hello, are the girls naked here?

Gergiev

09-04-11, 03:10

The software used at the moment does seem to have some formatting issues. It does deliver some strange results.

However, for some reason, the editing process seems to work better.

That is, if you go back to re-work and and/or edit any gremlins then it usually gives a proper or improved outcome.

Unfortunately the editing time-out in the new software is very short, and, of course, not everybody wants to have to bother doing this with a longish post.

All in all, a bit unsatisfactory...

VG

Kimino

09-04-11, 18:03

Anybody visited Artemis on fri / sat?

What was the situation?

Promise I'll pay back with a mon / tue / wed report. :)

Kimino, definitely impatient!

Blue Swede

09-04-11, 21:49

anybody visited artemis on fri / sat?

what was the situation?

promise i'll pay back with a mon / tue / wed report. .

kimino, definitely impatient!it was "as usual", quite ok early, but after 20-21 or so, the crazy situation begins.

girls roaming for clients (some girls had a better situation, with men more or less in line waiting).

men roaming for the "perfect girl".

pairs roaming for a "fuck spot".

this was my experience friday and saturday, thursday was much more relaxed.

also, i have to concur to rocketboy0s comment, it seems to be the old staff in place. myself, as a occasional visitor recognized a significant part of the girls and also a couple of them recognized me!

my encounters: (first i can add, that i fancy blowjobs, so that was more or less the "diet" for this weekend.)

thursday:

nina cz, what a sweet girl! the best gfes i have had! everything went slow and very enjoyable. she's a keeper!

solenida, ro, kind of a girl-next-door type, but also a bit of crazy humour. also enjoyable, even if she tried to speed up the blowing too much a couple of times.

this session also contained a bit of cowgirl / reverse cowgirl, very good! would repeat.

friday:

harlen pl, pretty good, nice girl all over. maybe a repeat.

nina again, a solid selection!

saturday:

arrived late and was caught by the crowd and had difficulties to decide.

finally, my decision fell on alina, ukr. it was a good decision and she delivered a perfect blowjob in the back row of the kino downstairs.

would repeat.

blue, home again with a smile on his face!

DAtourist

09-05-11, 12:39

Did it ever happen to you guys that after chatting sitting in the kino (plannin to fuck later in the room) she starts giving you a BBBJ and couldn't hold it ending up cummin early?

ZimmerBaby

09-06-11, 01:03

Did it ever happen to you guys that after chatting sitting in the kino (plannin to fuck later in the room) she starts giving you a BBBJ and couldn't hold it ending up cummin early?Sounds like my first visit to Artemis. I met this lovely german flower in the kino, and my heart was beating like a gatling gun. I normally have to work hard for my finishes, so this is very seldom experience to me. Wish it could happen more often, since I visit places that offer good BBBJs and accepting CIM flatrate at different gangbangs in Berlin. Once I even tried Cialis for the scientific research (what a horrible drug) , I was stiff like diamond when horny for 24 hours, but less sensitive. I managed to cum only once at Artemis, but still I could get this diabolic erection even if I observed a lady eating a kebab or lamb shashlik. Crazy. Maybe Cialis 5 mg can help you.

Kimino

09-06-11, 12:51

Arrived at Artemis around 4pm and met Charlie. Other friends came in later.

Place was very calm, few girls around. After about half an hour the lineup was good enough.

In general, most of the girls I prefer where missing, lots of new faces.

First names that come to my mind that I didn't see yesterday, Renee, Helena, Kathleen, Heather, Manuela, plus many others whose names can't remember right now.

At 9 we left for dinner and met Angus and Rb, had a great time.

Once we came back the place was kind of crowded and remained the same util 3am when I finally left.

Patrizia, Polish but lives in Hamburg and normally works at Atmos. Casquette hair style, nice body, kind of mediterranean shapes. Brown / green eyes, quite tall. I think she will leave in about a week or something. Nice session, would repeat, not during this trip.

Moui (or whatever). Half german half turk. Intense blue eyes, stunning. Quite curly red haid, piercing on lips and nose, some tatoos, looks very young. I did enjoy staying with her, anal asked but not allowed, offered cim. Not very good BJ.

Raffaella. Enough said about her. I allways enjoy her company a lot, and this time was not different. I find her extremely sweet and extremely hot.

Adelina, didn't session with her, I just wanted to share this. I see her and was quite happy about, she comes up, kind of sweet and tells me to wait for her 10 min that she would take a shower. After about half an hour she shows up, sits beside me and tells me that her boyfriend was going to show up in about half an hour and they would stay together until 5am.

"ciao" I said. WTF.

So this was the Monday report.

I was wondering where Helena was, I kind of liked her a lot. Angus said he probably knew of a girl that responded to my description and that was working at Artemis but is now elsewhere, he found me a link and indeed it looks like her. It's on http://www.odetteberlin.de , under the name of Ella. Apart from Helena the place looks interesting so I'll go and pay a visit this afteroon with Charlie, if we don't like it we will visit VK and / or KD and reach Artemis later on.

Ciao!

Dr Jekyll

09-06-11, 19:48

Hiya folks.

A quick question: I might be able to arrange a visit to old Artemis in a couple of weeks, but when checking the messe website I find that this (of course) would collide with one of the fairs. It's CMS,"Cleaning Management Services", and now I wonder if anyone knows if this is one of the big ones. I'm eager to spend an evening at A soon again, but of CMS is a monster I will probably pass this time (would be a shame though).

/Dr J

Kimino

09-07-11, 10:22

Quick report just to say that the place was much less crowded yesterday and that the atmosphere was much better.

We arrived there around 6:30 pm. Planning to have a session then leave for dinner and then come back later on.

Nebula was there and we chatted a bit but then we lost contact and we will meet again tonight I think and hopefully have some turkish food together.

I'm definitely getting old, in the past visits to Artemis I've looking at a Polish girl, high, porn star look, blonde hair pulled back, pony tail, real nice and attractive imo. Called Veronica. I always discarded the idea of going with her because I was sure she was ice cold and although very attractive I always hesitated. Drinking a coffee, started talking with her and I found out that we already sessioned a couple of times (she says 5 but I can't believe that). With much satisfaction about her BJ capabilities, she said.

So off we went and indeed I had great fun. She is really on the pornstar side, she is also sweet but definitely not a GFE girl. So fucking cute that I was almost shy when she kept starring at me through the mirror while in doggie.

Anyways, had fun, will repeat, maybe not if too tired. Ahahah.

Out for dinner, very good indian food at Calcutta, nice walk and chat going back to Artemis but then we both discovered that Indian food is just a bit too heavy and not very fkk compliant. We stayed a bit at artemis but then left to go and have some sleep.

One thing, I was told that Renee had arguments with the management and was either kicked out or simply left. Pity, she is a nice girl. Anyone has more info on this?

We will visit a couple of brothels today and then hit Artemis before leaving tomorrow morning.

Ciao.

Kimino

Bearsk

09-08-11, 07:22

Same things happens to me if I eat too many Artemis brussell sprouts!

Out for dinner, very good indian food at Calcutta, nice walk and chat going back to Artemis but then we both discovered that Indian food is just a bit too heavy and not very fkk compliant. We stayed a bit at artemis but then left to go and have some sleep.

Kimino

Kimino

09-08-11, 13:37

Arrived around 4 and the place was dead, again the place woke up quickly during the next hour.

I stayed until 5am with my friend, Nebula2000 and earlier with Charlie. The place was never particularly.

Lingerie day and lineup very very good.

Went with Hanna or something, Polish, bob cut, brown hair, blue eyes. Wearing a very sexy schoolgirl dress which made me choose her in the first place. I actually oticed the day before even without the schoolgirl suite but was too tyred.

Nice sweet girl.

Extended session with Raffaella.

Then I saw a girl, wearing a 2 piece white fishnet. Very nice and hot body, tall, black hair, nice makeup, absolutely stunnig ass. Porn star look. Never saw her before.

She was arguing with a couple of guys about talking, paying, loosin time etc. So, provocatorily, I went up to her and told her I would like to have a chat. She said that we should talk in a room and off we went.

She probably pulled some BS to me saying she was Albanese, don't know. She drove in from Frankfurt and was here for a trip. Se had worked (or still was) at Palace, she knew very well Joy (a real nice, although sharky, girl I met at Palace) and told me she was supposed to be in Artemis or coming in. She also knew her very nice friend with pistols tatooed on the back, can't remember her name. Anyways, this all sounded interesting to me.

This has been going on for a while but yesterday I really noticed how very, very few girls ever come up to me. On one side I like not being bugged on the other I would appreciate some girls coming up some times. For sure you only need to look for some eye contact or simply go up to them. Boh, you can't have everithing.

Wanted to try the famous Nina that I finally identified but it didn't happen.

End of the games for a while, maybe a new tour before Christmas.

Ciao

Kimino

Charlie 123

09-08-11, 16:16

Hi.

Stunning PSE with Marsha from Moskow. 32 years old but looks younger, blonde short-cut hair, pretty but not stunning face, sensational tanned full but sporty physique, very large sympathetically enhanced breasts. An identikit porn star body with the performance to back it up.

Very dirty girl, all-action performer, very sexy wet BBBJ, ball-licking, face-fucking, fingering etc etc. This was the session I used to wank off thinking about when I was 18 years old. Really hot chick. Highly recommended for anyone looking for the prototype MILF pornstar session.

One caveat. She seemed in a hurry at first to get the job done. Once I said that I wanted to slow down a bit and was happy to extend to an hour things got even better. A definite repeat for me.

Charlie

Angus Magee

09-08-11, 16:40

John Degas

09-09-11, 11:01

Hi Guys.

The first time I payd for sex was in golden sand (Bulgaria) in 2006. I was on a holiday trip with som friends of mine. At the time I was 20 years old and saw it as just a " mistake" because the decision to fuck a prostitute was done when I was drunk, big time drunk. Anyway I wasn't ashamed by it but just didn, t think I would do it again. Well time passed and two girlfriends after I went this year to Amsterdam in April. The main reason to go there wasn't because of the redlight district but for the coffeeshops. But of course I had to check the famous redlight district out. Just to watch the girls at the windows. But you know after some walking back and forth, and after some beers I couldn't hold on anymore. Just had to try it again. I had a fun trip and decided that this could be something I could do once a year. But then a friend of mine told me about how stuff works in Germany. I wasn't sure how to believe it. I thought Amsterdam was the best place to do it legal in Europe. Well after some google search I found Artemis homepage. After checking out the hompeage I thought why not give it a try. I went to Berlin last week. Stayed with a friend at his place. I've known him since my days at the university in Trondheim in Oslo. We kept contact after he went back to berlin. And I've always wanted to visit him but hadn't have time before now. Hi is a bit religious so I didn't tell him about some things I wanted to check out. Wasn't sure of how he would react to that. So on Sunday I told him I wanted to be alone, because I was having a big hangover from the day before when we went out to party. Of course I was fine but I just had to make up an excuse. Easy to fint the place from Westkreutz station. I've seen a clip on youtube on how to get to the place. Well, I'm definitely going o check the place out again. And maybe in other cities in germany, but I've heard Artemis is the best. I've mostly went for curvy girls since I like them curvy. Don't remember any names but the girl I remember the most was actually the only skinny girl I tried there. She hadn't a big ass or big tits, but her face was the most Beautiful I saw in Artemis. She was brunett and told me she was from Italy. It was really good sex. Not saying that the others where bad just that I had the best experience with her. Hope I see her next time I'm there.

I write this because I'm new to this forum and you know just wanted to share some experience.

Hadet.

John Degas

Member #4626

09-10-11, 01:23

Day 1 (Saturday) :

Tatiana (ROM). Not so good. Knew her from last time. Although knew the session won't be so good, couldn't resist her beautiful face.

Nina (CHZ). Super GFE as always.

Shaaz (ROM) – I had some good times with her at my previous visits, but this time it wasn't so good. She acted like a child and talked like a child and didn't get interested in the act.

Forgot her name and nationality. Tall 180, reddish brown hair, beautiful face. Very good session. Don't kiss.

Day 2 (Sunday) :

Daisy (GER) – from near Berlin. 160, blond hair, large tattoo of flowers and butterflies on her back, beautiful face, DFK, some extra kilos, but not fat. Very good session. No BJ and I didn't asked either, but responded well to DATY. A GFE and will definitely repeat.

Sasha – (ROM) , dirty blond hair. Pretty face. Had kept my eyes on her for two days. She was a little cold in the room (maybe shy) , but I have a feeling that more sessions with her will warm her up and will be good.

Day 3 (Monday) :

I had read a lot about a girl named Vivian in this forum and I did went to the room with a Vivian (which was not so good sessions) in my last visits, but later on I found that the Vivian that the forum gives a diva status is not the one I met and that she has changed her name to Fatima.

Finally I meet the real Vivian (aka Fatima). I was sitting with Nina in the downstairs bar and was close to ask her to go to the room when she introduced me to her girlfriend Fatima. We all three talked a little bit, and they suggested a threesome. I wasn't sure, as I had never done threesome before, but after some time I agreed.

I had a very nice time with two beautiful girls. Nina was giving instruction whom should do the sucking and who should do fucking. The picture of me at the mirror talking the Fatima in doggy while Nina is french kissing me is imprinted in my mind and will remind me of that spectacular session for long time.

We were at the room for half an hour and although I had a great time, I think half an hour is not enough for a threesome. Furthermore I think I would have enjoyed the session even more if I knew both girls and had sessioned with both before the threesome.

Fatima (CHZ) – I had to get to know this girl more and I liked her very much, therefore I spend an extended one hour at the room with this beautiful girl. I started with DATY and soon after she get wet, but it took about 20 min before she get orgasm. The rest of the session continued with slow GFE sex with DFK.

Daisy (GER) – again a very good GFE session.

Ria. 180, mix German / Brazilian, slim, tanned and fit body, piercing at nose lip and navel.

She looked a little bit cold and not so pretty from a distance, but I am glad that I met her. Very sweet girl, very pretty face and very good session. Good at bbj.

Norjan

09-10-11, 14:29

So off we went and indeed I had great fun. She is really on the pornstar side, she is also sweet but definitely not a GFE girl. So fucking cute that I was almost shy when she kept starring at me through the mirror while in doggie.

KiminoI want this girl. She call herself Veronica?

Does she have blue eyes?

Please tell me she have blue eyes.

Norjan

Kimino

09-10-11, 21:44

I want this girl. She call herself Veronica?

Does she have blue eyes?

Please tell me she have blue eyes.

NorjanYes I think so.

She is very easy to spot, she pulls her hair behind and has a pony tail. Blonde.

Ciao.

Kimino

Angus Magee

09-12-11, 22:06

There are a bunch of new pics on the Artemis home page.

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/de/girls.php

Nina finally has her pic up there and a few others.

AM

Kimino

09-13-11, 07:52

There are a bunch of new pics on the Artemis home page.

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/de/girls.php

Nina finally has her pic up there and a few others.

AMJust when I was considering Stuttgart for a change. :)

I like Kathleen's picture a lot. If only she would smile more, nice girl.

Thanks for the info Angus.

Ciao.

Kimino

Angus Magee

09-13-11, 11:04

Angus Magee

09-13-11, 11:09

Just when I was considering Stuttgart for a change.As I say to Rocketboy these days at every opportunity: Just when I thought I was out, the pull me back in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvzdehnJA9k

And Silvio (who does it better, in my opinion)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242H7F8DKHA

AM

Kimino

09-13-11, 12:28

As I say to Rocketboy these days at every opportunity: Just when I thought I was out, the pull me back in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvzdehnJA9k

And Silvio (who does it better, in my opinion)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242H7F8DKHA

AMThat's exactly the way I feel. :)

Kimino

Johny 123

09-13-11, 12:28

Daffon

09-13-11, 13:56

Daffon reports on his father and son trip to Artemis over on the Berlin thread. Here is the link.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1196577&viewfull=1#post1196577

What can I say, I only wish my father had stuck around long enough to make such a visit. Especially if he was paying.

AMThanks Angus. My invitation for a drink / dinner with us still stands.

Did you gather that we confirmed that the pensioner discount is not limited to german nationals. They would like to see a pension document but if you are really old just proof of age will do!

Rocketboy0

09-13-11, 13:58

As I say to Rocketboy these days at every opportunity: Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. AM

Well. Consider the alternative:

Just when you thought you were in, she pushes you back out.

But, back to the theme; all ultimately a matter of will power, and really, just a choice.

Daffon

09-13-11, 13:58

There are a bunch of new pics on the Artemis home page.

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/de/girls.php

Nina finally has her pic up there and a few others.

AMDozens of stunning girls, but not one I can definitely recognise from last night and certainly none of my shortlist. It doesn't matter because they are entirely representative of the amazing standard to be found.

Daffon

Angus Magee

09-13-11, 14:06

Dozens of stunning girls, but not one I can definitely recognise from last night and certainly none of my shortlist. It doesn't matter because they are entirely representative of the amazing standard to be found.

DaffonKeep in mind that the girls go to lengths to disguise themselves in these photos. Many are wearing the same blond wig to throw us off the scent. Unless you know the name and the girl they are hard to recognise.

AM

Johny 123

09-13-11, 15:32

Dozens of stunning girls, but not one I can definitely recognise from last night and certainly none of my shortlist. It doesn't matter because they are entirely representative of the amazing standard to be found.

DaffonHi gone through your post about artemis

I am an indian 26 years old software engg, would like to visit Artemis.

Please let me know

Whether any asians ll be there in artemis?

Is it safe for asians to visit artemis?

Ll they allow indians as well?

Can you recommend me any hotels nearby artemis

Thanks in advance.

Will help you for sure when you come to India.

Cheers,

Johny

London Traveller

09-13-11, 18:13

hi johny,

not sure if your questions are directed at anyone in particular but here are my ideas anyway:

there might be some asians at artemis. there are definitely asian ladies (asia is a big place, so i'm not confining this term to the indian subcontinent) and there are usually asian men too.

asians are as safe visiting artemis as anyone else. i have had no problems and i use public transport and walking to get there.

indians would have no additional problems as long as you don't try to pay in rupees.

if you want to stay in walking distance then you could try the kronprinz if you want upmarket or the ibis if you want to save cash. i haven't stayed at them myself but others on this forum have and they seem to be happy there. i usually prefer to stay a bit further in town along the s-bahn either at savignyplatz or zoo area. there are plenty of hotels there and it is a more interesting area to stay in. up to you!

i have no plans to visit india at the moment but if i do i will drop you a line!

lt.

hi gone through your post about artemis

i am an indian 26 years old software engg, would like to visit artemis.

please let me know

whether any asians ll be there in artemis?

is it safe for asians to visit artemis?

ll they allow indians as well?

can you recommend me any hotels nearby artemis

thanks in advance.

will help you for sure when you come to india.

cheers,

johny

Norjan

09-13-11, 18:34

Hi,

Iam a software engg from Bangalore. India. Will be visiting artemis soon this month. Looking for fellow indians who can guide me.

Other Guys can guide me too. Ll help you out guyz when you come to India.

Any racism ll be there in Germany?

Artemis Fkk clubs allow asians (indians )?

How to reach artemis from Berlin City? English can be understood in berlin or only german?

Is it safe for a guy to come alone?

Recommend near by accomadation as well.

Thanks,

JohnyI recommend you to take a taxi, it will save time and effort. Taking the S-bahn back in the darkness is a heavy task if you're not used to the system (platforms, tickets, directions etc.)

Norjan.

Norjan

Rocketboy0

09-13-11, 20:29

Hi gone through your post about artemis

I am an indian 26 years old software engg, would like to visit Artemis.

Is it safe for asians to visit artemis?

Ll they allow indians as well?

Can you recommend me any hotels nearby artemis

How to reach artemis from Berlin City?
English can be understood in berlin or only german?
Is it safe for a guy to come alone?

JohnyNamaste Johny. All will be fine, you will be most welcome, probably meet some fellow countrymen as they are frequently in attendance, and English widely understood. You can even eat sort of veg in the hallowed dining hall of Artemis, if you are careful.

No need to take taxis. Ibis Hotel close by as in 10 min walk and affordable, S-bahn Westkreuz stop is very close (5 min walk to Arts), easily understood (I mean you are a bloody software engineer) and you just ask for help if needed but it's quite simple, cheap, and safe. The one tip if you are traveling very early in the morning is just make sure you know the time of the last train and don´t ride in a train car alone, just always go sit where there are others. There are also cheap hotels near Bahnhoff Zoo (Motel One) which possibly might be more lively during the day and closer to the center. Cheap hotels are everywhere if you search. S-Bahns, U-Bahns, and busses really good and with a day pass, very cheap.

The famous blogs of our local Sage of Slime, Angus Magee has everything you would ever want to know about Artemis at his website, including approach videos, and even offers a guide service, see www.angusmagee.com . He is a very pukha fellow. A mother pukha actually.

Now-your question above about whether it is safe for a guy to come alone. Well yes, but it is much better if the woman comes also.

Bobo.fr

09-13-11, 22:26

Daffon reports on his father and son trip to Artemis over on the Berlin thread. Here is the link.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1196577&viewfull=1#post1196577

Etc.

AMHey Daffo, did you consider the risk of "heart attack" (that may have different consequences for young (rather psychological consequences) and old people (rather physical consequences))? (LOL)

Il Duca

09-14-11, 09:32

It has been some ten since I was last in Berlin. A lot has changed I am certain.

I am interested in spending the balance of one of my days at FKK Artemis.

In and out of saunas and massages, and visiting with no less than four or five ladies throughout my six hour visit.

I have read about six months worth of post, but I really don't seem to find what I would call a play by play explanation of services which various ladies will provide and the price point for that service. I understand it is 80 Euro to get in the door and then another 60 Euro for 30 minutes of BBBJ and sex.

Can some one offer me some guidance on the various ladies.

My preferences would be a lady who provides BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK and SEX.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Angus Magee

09-14-11, 09:42

I have read about six months worth of post, but I really don't seem to find what I would call a play by play explanation of services which various ladies will provide and the price point for that service. I understand it is 80 Euro to get in the door and then another 60 Euro for 30 minutes of BBBJ and sex.Check out the Artemis gude on my blog if you have not already done so.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690

AM

Il Duca

09-14-11, 12:24

Check out the Artemis gude on my blog if you have not already done so.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690

AMDear AM:

Yes I reviewed your blog and I even sent you a private email to which you have yet to respond. We are all busy, I understand.

What I am looking for, which I have yet to find, is something like a detailed list of various girls working at Artemis

By way of example:

FKK Artemis:

Amy: CBJ, DATY and Classic sex, No DFK, No BBBJ.

Jana: BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK and Classic sex.

Vicki: BBBJ, DATY, Classic sex No CIM, No DFK.

Etc.

This is what I don't seem to find.

Any guidance on specific ladies would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Euro100

09-14-11, 13:09

Dear AM:

Yes I reviewed your blog and I even sent you a private email to which you have yet to respond. We are all busy, I understand.

What I am looking for, which I have yet to find, is something like a detailed list of various girls working at Artemis

By way of example:

FKK Artemis:

Amy: CBJ, DATY and Classic sex, No DFK, No BBBJ.

Jana: BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK and Classic sex.

Vicki: BBBJ, DATY, Classic sex No CIM, No DFK.

Etc.

This is what I don't seem to find.

Any guidance on specific ladies would be appreciated.

Thanks.These lists do not work the way you would like them to. Nobody works all the time, and the lineup changes all the time. Plus, the girls do not wear name tags; so you still have to identify who is who, which is no small task. Finally, a particular girl may offer DATY (or whatever extra) to one guy, but not to another. It depends a little bit on your game and how you approach the girl. Sex at the FKKs is not like putting coins into a vending machine and always getting exactly the same product.

It is much better just to go there, check around, and then approach a few girls who appeal to you. Discuss with each of them what you would like to do and see where it leads. Pricing: expect anal to be an extra 100, and CIM to be an extra 50.

Angus Magee

09-14-11, 13:30

It is much better just to go there, check around, and then approach a few girls who appeal to you. Discuss with each of them what you would like to do and see where it leads. Pricing: expect anal to be an extra 100, and CIM to be an extra 50.Good advise. If you want a menu then go to an apartment that has a clear menu. Each girl will have her checked items on the menu and you can order up what you want. Not quite the same as an FKK but this is what some like.

AM

Angus Magee

09-14-11, 13:47

Dear AM:

Yes I reviewed your blog and I even sent you a private email to which you have yet to respond. We are all busy, I understand.

What I am looking for, which I have yet to find, is something like a detailed list of various girls working at ArtemisYes I did get your email but I get a lot of emails from guys searching for info. The emails that get my attention are those that come along with a small donation to support the blog and further my research. The others I answer at my liesure.

But to be honest, much of this type of info you look for, at least with regard to the apartments, is on the various web pages. As for Artemis, it is as Euro says: you just have to go to Artemis and meet the girls. Any list any of us could make would be virtually useless for the reason stated. The best way to play the FKK game is to get in there, explore and use your charm (and wallet) to find what you are after. It is actually the fun of it if you ask me.

AM

Il Duca

09-14-11, 15:08

Yes I did get your email but I get a lot of emails from guys searching for info. The emails that get my attention are those that come along with a small donation to support the blog and further my research. The others I answer at my liesure.

But to be honest, much of this type of info you look for, at least with regard to the apartments, is on the various web pages. As for Artemis, it is as Euro says: you just have to go to Artemis and meet the girls. Any list any of us could make would be virtually useless for the reason stated. The best way to play the FKK game is to get in there, explore and use your charm (and wallet) to find what you are after. It is actually the fun of it if you ask me.

AMThanks for the advise. I hope you will find time to respond to my email as I think I might need the hired services of your tour guide expertise.

Il Duca

09-14-11, 15:09

These lists do not work the way you would like them to. Nobody works all the time, and the lineup changes all the time. Plus, the girls do not wear name tags; so you still have to identify who is who, which is no small task. Finally, a particular girl may offer DATY (or whatever extra) to one guy, but not to another. It depends a little bit on your game and how you approach the girl. Sex at the FKKs is not like putting coins into a vending machine and always getting exactly the same product.

It is much better just to go there, check around, and then approach a few girls who appeal to you. Discuss with each of them what you would like to do and see where it leads. Pricing: expect anal to be an extra 100, and CIM to be an extra 50.Hi Euro100;

Thanks for the helpful info. I hope to make the most of my 24 hours in Berlin. By the way, is there still a Red Light District in Berlin?

Thanks.

Angus Magee

09-14-11, 15:10

Thanks for the advise. I hope you will find time to respond to my email as I think I might need the hired services of your tour guide expertise.I have some time tomorrow and will try to get to it then. Just off to Artemis at the moment.

:)

AM

Kimino

09-16-11, 08:28

I have some time tomorrow and will try to get to it then. Just off to Artemis at the moment.

AMHey Angus, how was the post-ifa situation at Artemis.

Lots of talents still around? Had fun?

Ciao

Seqoya

09-16-11, 10:49

Angus Magee

09-16-11, 11:55

Hey Angus, how was the post-ifa situation at Artemis.

Lots of talents still around? Had fun?

CiaoWell yes I was pondering whether or not to write up a full report. But in the end I will just post a few comments.

I had a great time in Wednesday with a touch of frustration thrown in at the end. Met up with Toscana & Rocketboy just after I had emerged from the room with Fatima. It has been a while since I enjoyed her company and the session was fantastic. What a girls she is.

Fortune also smiles (with a nudge from RB) and it looks like the 6th year anniversary (Sept. 29th) will be my next visit.

The frustration came in the form of a sex tall pink haired lady who chatted all of us up over dine. She is German, with pink long hair, probably somewhere in the upper 20s'. In the dining room it was pretty obvious she was ding a bit of marketing, but she did it with ease and seemed intelligent and skill-ful on that end of things. But what really sealed the deal was that RB happened to mention that as she was standing up to leave he caught sight of "Bush" underneath her short skirt.

Now, I like a cleanly shaved pussy as much as the next guy. But I came of age in the '70s and have a certain nostalgic remembrance of the times when ladies had pubic hair. I m not into real jungle women, but a nicely tended pubic Bush really is a treat for me. Of course RB mentioning this sent me into a lather over this girl. Off I went in pursuit but she was quickly seated out in the main bar with another punter. I decided to give her a few minutes but when I looked back she was gone to the room.

I did not see her then until much later, after RB & Toscana had left. At this point I saw her again from the bottom of the stairs. With out actually running I made my way up to the bar but as I came in she and another girl were sitting down again with a guy. ! 0 minutes later off they all went to the rooms. While I waited about 45 mins. I finally called it a night figuring that the session could easily run longer than an hour and by this time I have been there over 8 hrs, only "one-gepopped", and was tired.

So that is how it went. Fun with a finishing touch of frustration. I wonder if Toscana will be able to include miss pink hair in his eagerly awaited report of his three days at Artemis? If not there is always an opportunity for me at the up coming anniversary party.

Anyway Kimino, to answer your question-I would say the talent pool was fair to good but not great. Lots of, for me, new faces and other body parts. Some lookers but also some pretty persistent. Um. Non-lookers. To be nice about it. The evening also seems to favour the guys in terms numbers. That is, most of the evening there seemed to be many women and not that many customers. This did change a bit after mid-night when a fairly large number of guys showed up. But as far as I could tell there was never a room wa.

It this evening.

AM

Toscana

09-16-11, 14:16

In answer to Angus's question on the Lady with the Pink Bush, no, she wasn't there yesterday. I did her just as I was dressed and leaving the day before, but then Angus wasn't within sight, so I couldn't broker anything. I thought about changing back again.

Please let me know

Whether any asians ll be there in artemis?

Is it safe for asians to visit artemis?

Ll they allow indians as well?As I was changing late yesterday, a whole group of gents from the sub-continent had just arrived, clearly without any safety issues.

Maybe you were in that group? Anyway, judging from the excited energetic chatter it was their first time, and I guess it was going to be a great one for the girls too.

Report when I can.

Toscana

09-16-11, 14:20

I did her just as I was dressed and leaving the day beforeCorrection: I did SEE her just as I was dressed and leaving. Freud lives on in the Dens of Sin. LOL.

Angus Magee

09-16-11, 14:54

Correction: I did SEE her just as I was dressed and leaving. Freud lives on in the Dens of Sin. LOL.Good for the clarification. I imagined that you did her right there in the front hall, maybe up against the Red Bull machine. That I would have liked to have seen.

;)

The only way I can see that it happened was that her friend had brokered a threesome with Pink Bush (until we I'd her w / name) and came to get her by the stairs. I do not see how other wise it happened so fast that she was taken. I mean I had just said so long to you, wandered a bit, and then had gone down to wait on the sofa platforms at the base of the stairs. As I lay back I saw her, and after 2 seconds consideration, was on my feet again and headed back up to find her. I entered the main lounge to see her headed to the bar to pick up some drinks and then head straight over to a sofa with her friend and the other punter.

Oh well, lets face it, part of the mystique for me is that she was hard to find. Certainly then she must be the lay of the century and fucking her will change the very meaning of my existence.

Or maybe it is just the mythic qualities of a pink Bush. What ever those are.

Kimino

09-16-11, 15:15

Good for the clarification. I imagined that you did her right there in the front hall, maybe up against the Red Bull machine. That I would have liked to have seen.Guys... You are confusing me... :)

Was it the hair to be pink or the bush?

Pink like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuXIBOqBitg

Mmmmm.

Being in the '70s this probably had both th epink hair and the bush.

Looks like you both where not able to have a close look at the bush. Na na na. So it was probably the hair. :-)

Ciao.

Kimino

Angus Magee

09-16-11, 16:35

Guys. You are confusing me. .

Was it the hair to be pink or the Bush?

Pink like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuXIBOqBitg

Mmmmm.

Being in the '70s this probably had both th epink hair and the Bush.

Looks like you both where not able to have a close look at the Bush. Na na na. So it was probably the hair. .

Ciao.

KiminoWell we know the hair on her head was pink, or perhaps more accurately an unnatural red colour. Not like the pink in the video but closer to this red. (note this is not the girl, just a link I found with a similar colour hair)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqxsmwbiL61qf4rydo1_500.png

As to the hair on her pussy, this is yet to be determined. Indeed we are not even 100% certain that there is any Bush, nor if it is pink. It is just that RB mentioned he caught a flash of pink from between her legs as she got up from the table. Though in all honesty I am beginning to suspect this is all part of RB's master plan to put me into the mad house. ;)

AM

Norjan

09-16-11, 18:05

As I was changing late yesterday, a whole group of gents from the sub-continent had just arrived, clearly without any safety issues.

Maybe you were in that group? Anyway, judging from the excited energetic chatter it was their first time, and I guess it was going to be a great one for the girls too.

Report when I can.Gents from the sub-continent?

Could you be more specific? (time of arrival, how many, what country / countries etc.)

Norjan

Angus Magee

09-16-11, 18:16

Gents from the sub-continent?

Could you be more specific? (time of arrival, how many, what country / countries etc.)

NorjanI am pretty sure he means Gypsies.

AM

ZimmerBaby

09-16-11, 18:58

I did her just as I was dressed and leaving.I know, I was there too and this is what I saw:

http://www.hentaicodegeass.com/images/hentai--ball-sucking--blush--code-geass--cum--cum-on-hand--euphemia-li-britannia--fellatio--green-eyes--handjob--oral--penis--pink-hair--pov--pubic-hair--uncensored.jpg

Excess

09-16-11, 18:58

I am pretty sure he means Gypsies.

AMAnd quite possibly, Mr. T was using the expression from the Raj and British Empire. As in Indian Sub-Continent.

All will be revealed when he has a few moments after he adjusts his raiments next time in the Artemis Locker room.

E.

Angus Magee

09-16-11, 20:28

Guys,

How many girls are there normally on a Wednesday in Artemist? It is my first time in artemis. I have lots of experience in the NRW FKK clubs as golden time etc. But first time to berlin.

Also a question is it possible to walk from the messe to Artemis?

Thanks guys for the infoOn a regular Wednesday (no Messe) I would say around 50 girls in action.

It is quite possible to walk from the Messe to Artemis. Probably around 15 mins. From the north end of the facility.

AM

Toscana

09-16-11, 20:31

Gents from the sub-continent?

Could you be more specific? (time of arrival, how many, what country / countries etc.)

NorjanWell, I was leaving shortly after midnight, say 12. 20.

When I referred to the subcontinent, I meant India and the surrounding countries. I wasn't more specific because the accent could come from any of three or four countries to my unattuned ear, and I didn't want to upset anyone.

How many gents? I'm not sure because I was indeed "adjusting my raiments" in the locker rooms, and I don't find it helpful to concentrate on more than one thing at a time when I've just been the best part of three days in an FKK. Zipping up a sensitive, over-attended member attentively and painlessly is assuredly a major pre-occupation at such moments of cathartic reflection. I am sure you can empathize. Four or five would be my guess. I am sure they had a great time.

Norjan

09-16-11, 21:06

Well, I was leaving shortly after midnight, say 12. 20.

When I referred to the subcontinent, I meant India and the surrounding countries. I wasn't more specific because the accent could come from any of three or four countries to my unattuned ear, and I didn't want to upset anyone.

How many gents? I'm not sure because I was indeed "adjusting my raiments" in the locker rooms, and I don't find it helpful to concentrate on more than one thing at a time when I've just been the best part of three days in an FKK. Zipping up a sensitive, over-attended member attentively and painlessly is assuredly a major pre-occupation at such moments of cathartic reflection. I am sure you can empathize. Four or five would be my guess. I am sure they had a great time.Many thanks man.

I just don't understand this part:

"Zipping up a sensitive, over-attended member attentively and painlessly is assuredly a major pre-occupation at such moments of cathartic reflection"

Since english is not my language, this sentence is too difficult.

Good to hear thou that it wasn't more than four or five guys and I actually hope that this india guy were'nt one of them since I am looking forward to read about his security issues.

Norjan

Kimino

09-16-11, 21:31

I just don't understand this part:

"Zipping up a sensitive, over-attended member attentively and painlessly is assuredly a major pre-occupation at such moments of cathartic reflection"Pretty sure he is talking about a Gipsy.
Kimino

Toscana

09-16-11, 21:46

Pretty sure he is talking about a Gipsy.Well I've had the old dog called a thing or two, but, no. LOL

Rocketboy0

09-17-11, 12:03

These translations are truly spinning out of control.

First, one sees Indian, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Iranians, Afghanis, and no doubt fellow other Stan-is as customers on a regular basis. All are most welcome, all have a fine time, there are no "security issues". I once had a chat with the fine manager (who is Turkish for what it's worth) who said one of the worst experiences he's had was with a drunk Finn who insisted on putting his live cigarette butts out on the floor carpeting. The point is there are goodies and baddies everywhere, and what counts is simply if you behave in a normal, civilized fashion. Artemis goes out of its way to accommodate the spending and spewing of one and all.

"Member" just to be clear, can be used in English as a slang word for penis. So Toscana is simply saying after 3 draining days his "member" was in such rough (over attended) shape that he needed to be careful zipping up his pants, and not get distracted by any thing, bushes, or people etc. Good advice on any day. Or you could also say that Forum members might be penises, as indeed they might.

As I am still recovering from the ruins of the last Bush Presidency, I prefer to refer to the elusive chemical red-head as the Pink Pantheress. For anyone who is able to spot her, she is in her early 20s, German, small probably A cup breasts, very friendly, speaks English quite well. A "field" report would be most welcome.

Until then, she remains like the Snow Leopard, the Yeti, or Nessie of the Loch Ness, a creature of myth, seldom if ever seen, whose attributes, performance, eating habits, and desires, remain largely unknown. My noticing a possible (hedging the hedge) pink furriness was not intended to destabilize Herr Magee's already highly dubious mental state. It was simply an observation. As Fox news says: we report, you decide (to go bonkers).

Norjan

09-17-11, 14:35

"Member" just to be clear, can be used in English as a slang word for penis. So Toscana is simply saying after 3 draining days his "member" was in such rough (over attended) shape that he needed to be careful zipping up his pants, and not get distracted by any thing, bushes, or people etc. Good advice on any day. Or you could also say that Forum members might be penises, as indeed they might.Thanks for clearing things up.

Norjan

Kimino

09-17-11, 16:01

"Member" just to be clear, can be used in English as a slang word for penis.Same in italian, but can't be considered slang.

To emphasize this we also have "Members of the parlament" which we use quite often lately, without referring to the "being part of" meaning of the word. :)

Ciao.

Kimino

Galazy

09-17-11, 20:36

Hi all,

I hope to head to the Artemis on Monday and Tuesday of next week and I want to have a couple of porn star experiences. Any recommendation from the girls currently working at present?

Cheers

Pharisaer

09-17-11, 23:03

Pink Bush (until we I'd her w / name)Maybe Janice?

Parents from Spain (as I remember) , but she's a native german speaking girl. Usually working in nightshift from 6pm. 8pm. She's a redhead since July or so. Some tatoos on her back, smallbreasted, special voice. Had a session with her some months ago, completly shaved. Saw her last week, no Bush, neither black or pink or something else.

Angus Magee

09-18-11, 14:20

Maybe Janice?

Parents from Spain (as I remember) , but she's a native german speaking girl. Usually working in nightshift from 6pm. 8pm. She's a redhead since July or so. Some tatoos on her back, smallbreasted, special voice. Had a session with her some months ago, completly shaved. Saw her last week, no Bush, neither black or pink or something else.Do not think that is her. This young lady claimed to be from East Germany and in fact used that as her selling point, claiming that E. German girls are better in the room than W. German girls. Who is to know unless someone does a blind taste test.

AM

Angus Magee

09-18-11, 14:34

Hi all,

I hope to head to the Artemis on Monday and Tuesday of next week and I want to have a couple of porn star experiences. Any recommendation from the girls currently working at present?

CheersWell one girl I can think of who fits my description of PSE is Rosie. She says she is from Greece but I think she has roots on Bulgaria. She has certainly lived in Greece and I know she speaks the language. She is slim with very long black hair, a large-ish nose and a beauty mark on her cheek. She does have a sort of gypsy look to her. Also a very nice young lady who really acts it up in the room. If anything I have had to slow her down.

I know she is around but I do not see her every time I am there so you might have to just be lucky to find her. She is not shy about approaching and speak rather small amounts of English though she is getting better in that department if it matters to you.

AM

Rocketboy0

09-18-11, 15:28

Do not think that is her. This young lady claimed to be from East Germany and in fact used that as her selling point, claiming that E. German girls are better in the room than W. German girls. Who is to know unless someone does a blind taste test.

AMJa- Sie ist es nicht. Ost ist best, unless you are in the West.

What we are looking for is something like this:

http://www.meendo.com/index.php?r=content/photo/view&id=175349&photo=81010

For all you spotters out there. Angus. I promise I will come visit you in the Bornholmer Nerven Klinik, on a regular basis, and will be sure you get WebCam priviledges.

Toscana

09-18-11, 19:31

This isn't her of course, but I reckon there's a considerable likeness.

I doubt if there will be any intel on her recently, as she mentioned she'd only re-appeared at Artemis that evening after a year away. Seems to drift around the clubs. Whether that is good or bad, I don't know.

Johny 123

09-19-11, 08:24

Thank you Norjan, Rocketboyo, Angus Magee, Daffon, London Traveller for your valuable comments. Will be visiting artemis in 20 days. Thank you.

Johny

Hi gone through your post about artemis

I am an indian 26 years old software engg, would like to visit Artemis.

Please let me know

Whether any asians ll be there in artemis?

Is it safe for asians to visit artemis?

Ll they allow indians as well?

Can you recommend me any hotels nearby artemis

Thanks in advance.

Will help you for sure when you come to India.

Cheers,

Johny

ZoomerMan

09-19-11, 18:44

First want to say thanks for all the posts and reports about your visits to what I can only call paradise! I'm planning on visiting for my first vist to A in the next month or so and the information here has been fantastic.

I just have a question which I haven't really been able to get a clear picture about the whole A experience from the posts here.

Are multi-cums allowed in A? Isn't the idea that we are supposed to be paying for their time not the number of times they get you off.

My first session will undoubtadly not last long at all considering how excited I'll be by the whole fkk experience. Also my recovery period is pretty short so I can be ready for action very quickly so I can still make use of the rest of the session time. I've been to a couple of places in Prague and this never seemed to be an issue 1 hour meant 1 hour and not 1 or 2 loads so this concept of shoot and your out kinda seems unfair and may ruin the experience!

Is this something I have to agree with the girl or will I be out of luck? Any suggestions on which girls be more accomodating to this would be much appreciated.

Thanks and happy mongering everyone!

Norjan

09-19-11, 20:24

Thank you Norjan, Rocketboyo, Angus Magee, Daffon, London Traveller for your valuable comments. Will be visiting artemis in 20 days. Thank you.

JohnyNice man, I'm really looking forward to your report.

Norjan

London Traveller

09-19-11, 20:30

Toscana

09-19-11, 22:23

Three days last week in Artemis.

Generally, I thought the club weaker than in previous years, certainly in numbers, arguably also in quality. The first shift on Thursday in particular was dire. There were few girls, and only a single one really interested me. Many of them would have been better occupied pushing the laundry trolleys around.

Artemis is really a second division FKK, not only in terms of line-up quality, but also in terms of service. Just my opinion. Being a big city club catering to tourists and Messe crowds means that you have to check on services carefully, and watch your watch. Non-kissers still remarkably thick on the ground, too much silicon. A mini-Palace, if you like, but not so crass in behaviour. But I still like the place, keep coming back.

Day One – Tuesday.

Not a whole day, I arrived about 21. 00 and left at 1. 00. Pretty low numbers and not an overwhelming choice. The line-up was probably recovering from the hectic Messe the week before. A couple of sessions.

Svenja, Cologne, Germany.

Turning 30.

About 1. 72m.

Slim, well-disguised B / C bolt-ons.

Medium-length henna-dyed hair.

Svenja talks the talk, quite lively, not uninteresting. Nice slender body, looks good, must be said. Services no problem. We went just over the half hour, which she forcefully announced just after I had come. My fault, but I did emit a world-weary sigh of disappointment after what had been a good chemistry session. Her mercenary attitude got the better of her. So I lay down, asked her exactly how many minutes were left up to the hour, and insisted she get blowing again. To her credit she did without complaint, she's very good technically.

Cheryl, Hungary.

24, if I remember correctly.

About 1. 62m.

Slim, lovely B's, all-round great slender body.

Longish dark lustrous wavy hair.

Beautiful face with limpid dark brown eyes.

A real discovery. I fell in love for an hour. We found each other on the circular couch at the bottom of the stairs, and she basically lay on top of me, stroking gently for twenty minutes before we roomed. Cheryl has a killer smile, super voice, and this gorgeous mouth didn't emit the usual inanities of the FKK girl, rather a lot of funny remarks. I actually caught myself wondering just what she might say next.

I just knew this was going to be special. Spent the first half hour kissing her soft, soft lips and embarking on a slow worshipful tour of this lovely body. She reacted as she should, hands raking my hair, slowly, dreamily, gently, breathlessly responding to the descending body kisses, then DATY. She slid her way round to 69 and the session went up a level again. Eventually I moved her into mish, kissing and dry-humping her a while, just teasing, we could have gone bare-back, the mood was there in the eyes. Didn't. More nibbling at that lower lip as we relaxed peacefully afterwards. Great, great session.

Day Two – Wednesday.

I wasn't sure that Rocketboy and Angus would manage to get to the club, but in the end, via a series of coincidences, both in fact turned up early evening. This of course made proceedings much more entertaining. It says a lot about the line-up that we preferred to spend time in the dining room with our own company – it was here that we 'brushed' with Pink, rather than in the main room with twenty or thirty naked women.

I started the day much earlier and decided to repeat with Vivienne, Slovakia, now known as Fatima. She remembered me from a year ago – how do they do it? – and the session with this tall elegant slim girl with an immaculate body was of the same high quality as ever. She is a sure number on the early shift. Angus knows her well, and indeed roomed with her himself later.

I was then struggling to find a second session. A couple of delectable blonde Poles disappointed with non-kissing restrictions. It was especially hard to turn Cindy away with her faultless slim body. She tried to tempt me twice. In the end, after hours of indecision and on no other criterion than that she seemed to be a great buddy of Fatima, I chose Michelle. I mean, what kind of crap decision-making process is that? LOL. And I was duly disappointed.

Michelle, Colombia.

End 20's.

About 1. 68m.

Dark blonde medium-length hair.

Tanned body, B / C breasts.

Optikfick. She wasn't really interested in letting go. Despite promises on the kissing it was a kind of poke-your-tongue-at-the-teeth effort and therefore more irritating than stimulating. 69 is always a pleasure with a great body, and the sex was good standard, but in the end I faked the finish to save juice for later.

Gabitza, Hungary.

Sorry, can't remember much about her. She talked her way into the room with her beautiful body and we ground out another standard session. Read as per Michelle above.

My final session on the Wednesday was a repeat with Cheryl. I had waited a long time until she turned up, and even then nearly missed out on her. She had announced her presence earlier by chucking a towel at me from about five meters distance as I was again sprawled half-asleep on the sofa downstairs, and then burying me with kisses. It was only much later that I was sufficiently up to steam, and I finally found her leaning over the railings at the top of the stairs.

Second session, also an hour, was even more familiar and exciting, this time crowned with trembling orgasms for her and a crunching CIM finish for me. I lay around in her arms for quite a while afterwards, she was feeling quite emotional about it all, didn't want to rejoin the noise and pandemonium downstairs. Champagne stuff, it's why we do this hobby. I very, very rarely get emotionally involved with the girls, but I could sense a danger here, and so could she. It was good that she wasn't going to be there the following day, and she virtually said as much as we parted. Toscana the Romantic.

Day Three – Thursday.

At least it was no longer Dessous day, but the first shift was very uninteresting. The long periods of inactivity did allow me at least to observe the remarkable Marketa, Czech Rep, who has many admirers including myself. She too remembered me, and would have been my fall-back. She has a phenomenal working technique. In nearly fourteen hours I saw her reel in at least fifteen customers. There were no doubt a few more. She is not hindered by having a great body and smile, and of course has a lot of repeat customers. Remarkably she never spends more than three minutes with a guy before they are off smiling to the room. In the end I decided against a repeat of last year, so dense was the smoke coming out of her vagina.

Sandy, Romania.

Mid 20's.

About 1. 64m.

Long curled blonde hair, gorgeous hazel eyes.

Natural B / C breasts.

You couldn't miss her, she's a stunner, with the blond hair, tanned body and wearing a dramatic scarlet sash round her hips. But after speaking to her I first let her go, as I had her on a list of no-no's. Then after consulting the list in my pocket I realised that it was a Sandra on the no-no list, and that Sandy was on the yes-list. Well done, Tosc. I called her over again when I next saw her.

Sandy's been around for several years, it seems, although I do not remember her. I duly took her for a spin. To be honest I don't share the enthusiasm for her that caused a gent on another forum to recommend her. But any input is gratefully received input, so that's OK. I found her a rather dispassionate partner. She did everything technically OK, her BBBJ is fine and varied, and she looks great in the mirror. That said I couldn't reach her, she can give more, but wasn't in the mood to give it to me. In fact, curious, I asked afterwards what really turned her on in sex, and she admitted that oral sex was not her thing, it's just the screwing. I guess that after two and a half days, despite my usual noble, self-sacrificing efforts in this particular discipline, I was never going to reach the athletic heights that would get this girl screaming. She was closer to examining her nails, truth be said.

Decided to go for a waschechte Berlinerin next. Straight off the streets of the city.

Chanel, Berlin.

Early 30's.

About 1. 62m, slim, in good shape.

Blonde, heavily crinkled blonde hair.

Quite well done B / C silis.

I had been attracted to Chanel earlier, everything's well proportioned and she's bouncy, but she was constantly involved with groups of regulars on the couches, and was never really available for interview. To my surprise she suddenly sat down next to me on the chair arm of one of the sofas behind the bar, placed my hand on her arse cheek, and began to spin her good-humoured yarns. According to her she's been at the club for years, but again she had never registered on the radar during my visits.

Chanel is one of those girls who cannot stop talking and spreading good humour amongst humanity. She wants every customer to leave the room with a smile on his face, and for this attitude deserves great commendation of course. It drives you crackers, so you take her off to the room and fuck her. That's her secret, I am convinced.

Unfortunately her constant restlessness meant that the session never really found its own rhythm. She is always changing things round, moving this, switching to that, and doesn't really listen if you do suggest something yourself. So, I was struggling, to be honest. Kissing was OK if a bit monotonous, BBBJ was too hectic and as fast as a motor drill, and that ain't good for the concentration. So Little Tosc lost some courage, and the end became a nervous battle when it need not have been. We did squeeze one out for honour's sake. Horses for courses, I am sure many find her freshness and energy just great.

As evening stretched on, I spent a long time just lying around on the laybacks near the strip pole, enjoying the music and strippers, observing the girls drifting in and out of the Kino and seeing who would happen by to try their luck with me. No sign of 'Pink'. Second shift was much better. There were some real stunners, but those I spoke to were in too much of a hurry to process me and they duly bounced off. It was all amicable. I was fairly sure I was finished for the day when to my surprise Hilary happened.

Hilary, Poland.

About 24.

1. 78m, so tall, slender, long legs.

Long blonde hair.

Immaculate natural B / C's.

Hilary speaks fluent German with an appalling accent. Really appalling. At times I simply did not understand a thing. She is crazy, wild, stunning. And just my type, where had she been hiding all this time? Just the hint of past acne on that alluring Slav face, but otherwise mesmerizing womanhood. A fascinating girl in fact, not just physically, with sometimes astonishing views. Confident, brash, cynical, but powerful PSE performer in the room. Wow!

Once in the room she just took me apart for a whole hour. Little Tosc up and standing and fighting as if he had just spent three months in a monastery. Just watching her move in those mirrors was wonderful, as she urged me on to fuck her, fuck her, fuck her. She told me afterwards that she really adores anal, which didn't surprise me in the slightest! Recommended! What a finish to my three day visit.

The Limey

09-20-11, 01:56

Great report, Toscana, lots of information.

Artemis is really a second division FKK, not only in terms of line-up quality, but also in terms of service.It depends so much on the day. There are some days I will find the girls really brusque, and other days they are awesomely mellow. Which day is hard to predict. For instance, I found yesterday, a Monday, was a good day, with lots of beauties trying to engage me in sweet conversation. One girl even said "Bon appetit" to me in the canteen, and I nearly fell off my chair. But the Monday before that was rubbish. I was wandering around for hours and beginning to feel like a loser before a kindly personality called Shaz rescued me and opened up the wonders of her box.

I think the difference was that there were twice as many guys on the earlier Monday. But why? I had done my due diligence, and it was not a Messe day. But it was between Messe's. So I would have to guess that it was the fault of the vexatious "inter-messers," a group of legendary shadow-people who hang around Berlin all year, ostensibly to attend Messe after Messe after Messe, but in reality to crowd out Artemis and mess up my life.

Anyway, I don't know what hex symbols scared off the intermessers yesterday, but I ended up spoilt for choice. There is a tall slim girl there called Leah, a Hamburger sadly, but gifted with a fantastic Nubian body. I have never screwed up the courage to actually give her a good zimmering, but she knows I lust after her and contrived all night to keep her little wobbling ass about ten meters in front of my eyes at all times. And yet finally it was a lovely lady with a red collar called Nicoletta who at the end of the night took me in her breasts and led me to a room, where I'm pleased to say we hit it off like a barn and a matchstick. How I missed her on previous visits I don't know.

My therapy group won't be happy with me, but everybody needs a break now and again.

Galazy

09-20-11, 16:17

Well one girl I can think of who fits my description of PSE is Rosie. She says she is from Greece but I think she has roots on Bulgaria. She has certainly lived in Greece and I know she speaks the language. She is slim with very long black hair, a large-ish nose and a beauty mark on her cheek. She does have a sort of gypsy look to her. Also a very nice young lady who really acts it up in the room. If anything I have had to slow her down.

I know she is around but I do not see her every time I am there so you might have to just be lucky to find her. She is not shy about approaching and speak rather small amounts of English though she is getting better in that department if it matters to you.

AMI had a look for her but couldn't find her – thanks for the suggestion though.

I arrived at around 13. 30 and found the place quite busy. Lots of pretty girls and quite a few older guys.

I did a few circuits and drank some tea before spying a girl I liked the look off. After a quick chat we headed upstairs.

Sunny (Germany)

Skinny, big fake tits, lots of ink and piercings (nipples and clit). She reminded me a lot of porn star Sandra Romain.

We head a great time together. Lots of slow kissing before the oral started. She gave a great blow job and I had to interrupt a few times to stop myself from coming. After a little break she stuck a condom on and we fucked in a handful of postions – she had no problem with multiple position changes. The sight of her squat-fucking me reflected in the mirrors was a real treat. We finished in standing doggie.

Excellent start to the day and a probable repeat.

I headed downstairs and rested in the bar for a while. I noticed Sunny and another girl (blonde, great tits) selling a duo. They gave me their sales pitch and I was mighty tempted but it was barely 10 minutes after my first session and I was wiped out.

After a rest it was times for round 2.

I wandered into the downstairs Kino where I met Gwendolyn.

Gwendolyn (Poland)

Blonde, decent natural tits, early 30's. She was sitting on her own so I sat down beside her. We had a little chat about the terrible quality porn that was showing on screen (some overweight amateur shaving herself in the shower). After a good chat her hand started snaking inside my robe, I made no effort to stop her so she knew we were good to go. As she slowly worked me hard she slowly stroked her own pussy. This was the first time I'the ever done anything semi-public like this. And sitting there with my robe open having my dick stroked by a beautiful girl felt really good.

After a few minutes I grabbed her and we headed into one of the little rooms beside the Kino for what turned out to be one of best sessions I've ever had at the Artemis. As I went down on her she explained that she loved fingers inside her so as I slurped away at her perfect pussy I slid 2 fingers in. This really got her going and she started rubbing her clit really hard – the combination of that, my tongue and fingers pushed her over the edge and she came really hard (I know she could have faked it but if she did she's one hell of an actress). She wasn't finished there, she flipped over onto all fours and kept working on her clit with one hand while she fingered her asshole with the other. I was hard as a nail watching this.

Eventually I stuck in a condom and we started fucking. Me on top, her on top and loads of doggie and lots of vocal encouragement. The smaller room was really good for watching in the mirrors I finished in doggie with an amazingly strong orgasm. We collapsed into a sweaty, panting mess and cuddled and kissed for a few minutes before I got my breath back.

Fantastic session. Tipped 20 on top of 60 and worth every penny.

I had a sleep on the big couch at the bottom of the stairs and then a massage (excellent value for 30 euro) then it was time for round 3.

After knocking back a few approaches I got chatting with Alisha from Hungry. And after a few minutes I knew she was the girl for session 3.

Alisha (Hungry)

She said she was 21 but could easliy pass for 18 or 19. She was about 5 foot, long dark hair, beautiful natural face and one of the prettiest faces I've witnesses at the Artemis – big eyes, great skin and a wonderful smile. She said she didn't kiss and this would normally mean a pass for me but I was under her spell so we headed upstairs.

I'm glad I took a chance here because this was a superb session. Her body is incredible and she really knew how to work it and she really got into watching herself in the mirrors. She was an absolute vision in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl – as this was my third session of the day I was able to last almost as long as I wanted and after 20 minutes of insane sex I came really hard. Truly awesome session. Would definitly repeat – if she allowed kissing she'the be pretty much perfect. She offered anal but I didn't take the offer.

So that was my day. 3 sessions all wonderful in their own way Alisha (not Elisa on the photographs page of the website) was the highlight but my time with Gwendolyn will stick in the memory for a long time.

Pharisaer

09-20-11, 21:53

Just call her Rosali (not: Rosie, Rosie herself is an amazing blond one from Bulgary). Rosali from Bulgary or Greece:

I had a look for her but couldn't find her – thanks for the suggestion though.You couldn't find her, she did not work last Monday.

Member #4319

09-21-11, 02:44

Angus Magee

09-21-11, 06:49

Hey all,

I had a question about the pricing structure at Artemis (and other FKK clubs). Am I correct in thinking that:

- a 80euro (or equivalent at other clubs) gets you entrance to the club and its included services (spa, non alcoholic drinks, ? Buffet, pool, sauna etc etc).

- You pay each girl individually, but is there a set rate or do you negotiate with each girl? (I would be interested mainly in OWO, DATY, Protected sex in various positions). I would be interested also in CIM, be less interested in massage, and not interested at all in anal.

So is that a totally negotiable thing between each girl or is there a set deal of 50euros per 30mins, and massage / CIM would cost more?

Thanks,

JMYou do not, or should not, negotiate with each girl. Though the set half hour rate including owo. Safe sex & usually DATY is €60. Cumming in her mouth would be a further €50. I say usually DATY because I have heard of girls that refuse this but in all my many session I have not run into one. Just that there is a bit of wiggle room for the girls and if it is a make it or break it thing for you I may be good to try to ask before hand. But I would not "negotiate" it, this is a major buzz kill. I would simply talk to her and maybe ask her what she likes and suggest licking. If she responds with a purrrr, you are good to go.

AM

Angus Magee

09-21-11, 16:04

Nebula2001

09-22-11, 16:12

I noticed today that the next big Messe will be the yearly Venus Messe starting on the 29th September. This coincides with the Artemis 6 year anniversary bash, also on the 29th. It could be quite a night then next Thursday. Could be the pooner's perfect storm if the weather cooperates.

Anyone have plans on attending?I was at the 5th year anniversary party last year and I can't say that I had the time of my life. It wasn't too bad but just a bit crowded and the free beer didn't help it either. (Oh, and however liberal I may feel about the whole 'wellness brothel' concept, I just can't help finding the idea of having a band performing live in the lounge bar a little weird.)

Having said that, I am in the guest list and may drop by just to check it out anyway.

P. S. I'll probably be around the day before the party though, since it's a Wednesday (:

Il Duca

09-25-11, 15:35

Never been to Artemis but planning a trip soon.

Is this one of these places where you pay your 80 euro entrance fee and they make you strip down and wear one of their white robes and slippers.

That nice for about an hour but I get a little uncomfortable after awhile. I am a big man usually needing a XXL or XXXL.

Info please.

Bearsk

09-25-11, 15:51

Make sure they give you a big robe. They go up to XXXL. You can wrap a towel underneath the robe if you wish. The rubber slip ons go to size 48.

You can also sign out of the club and come back later but you need to tell the front desk this when you leave and they will keep your locker for you.

Never been to Artemis but planning a trip soon.

Is this one of these places where you pay your 80 euro entrance fee and they make you strip down and wear one of their white robes and slippers.

That nice for about an hour but I get a little uncomfortable after awhile. I am a big man usually needing a XXL or XXXL.

Info please.

Hessen Bub

09-25-11, 18:09

Is this one of these places where you pay your 80 euro entrance fee and they make you strip down and wear one of their white robes and slippers.You don't have to wear the robe. You can go with a towel round your waist or naked.

HB

Toscana

09-25-11, 20:25

Is this one of these places where you pay your 80 euro entrance fee and they make you strip down and wear one of their white robes and slippers.Incidentally, one of the important things I neglected to report on recently is that as from Thursday 15th Sept there was a whole range of new slippers. Remiss of me, I should know how fascinating some people find these details.

Depending on your foot size you get slippers of various colours: dark blue, light blue, red, yellow, pink, grey. It's an exciting moment when you approach the shelves. For the record I am borderline: grey / dark blue, with tendency towards dark blue, it's a close shave. The girls are already laughing at the bright pink ones. And I guess Russian visitors will not be too keen to try the light blue ones on. So, I guess the debate about pink bunny slippers as a means of recognition among ISG punters is going to be re-awakened with a vengeance.

The Limey

09-25-11, 21:16

Incidentally, one of the important things I neglected to report on recently is that as from Thursday 15th Sept there was a whole range of new slippers. Remiss of me, I should know how fascinating some people find these details.

Depending on your foot size you get slippers of various colours: dark blue, light blue, red, yellow, pink, grey. It's an exciting moment when you approach the shelves.Absolutely. The slippers were the highlight of my last visit, eclipsing even the fantastic BJ from Nikoletta. If it is your first time at Artemis, don't go too close to those slippers. They will blow your mind.

You know I sometimes wonder at the daily take of Artemis. 10, 000 Euros? 100, 000 Euros?

Yes! They have upgraded the slippers!

Henio

09-25-11, 23:46

Absolutely. The slippers were the highlight of my last visit, eclipsing even the fantastic BJ from Nikoletta. If it is your first time at Artemis, don't go too close to those slippers. They will blow your mind.Holy crap, this may be the thing I need to push me over the threshold to make a Berlin detour even if it is a bit of a hike. I mean, you can get fuck and suck everywhere, but color coded slippers, that is unique!

Getting a hardon thinking about'them slippers right now.
@Tosc: you next post will be number 1.000. Got to make one memorably for the occasion (not that they usually aren't).

Member #4319

09-26-11, 02:48

You do not, or should not, negotiate with each girl. Though the set half hour rate including owo. Safe sex & usually DATY is €60. Cumming in her mouth would be a further €50. I say usually DATY because I have heard of girls that refuse this but in all my many session I have not run into one. Just that there is a bit of wiggle room for the girls and if it is a make it or break it thing for you I may be good to try to ask before hand. But I would not "negotiate" it, this is a major buzz kill. I would simply talk to her and maybe ask her what she likes and suggest licking. If she responds with a purrrr, you are good to go.

AMCool thanks for that. So just to summarise the Artemis process for those who are looking for it:

1. You roll up to Artemis at the door, no need to book in advance. You pay them the entry of 80euros.

2. You drop your stuff off into the locker (including or excluding valuables, depending on your choice. What's the done thing?) and throw on the robe / towel and slippers.

3. The place has spas / showers / saunas / pools etc. Everything that's listed on their site and you have free access. There's also free non alcoholic drinks and may even be some food and you can help yourself.

4. Amid all this relaxation will be many, many naked women who will be trying to catch your eye and talk to you. You chat to one of them you like the look of and if you click you can make suggestions as to the sort of things she does or does not like to do.

5. 60euros buys you 30mins of her time including OWO, multiple-cums within the 30mins, full protected sex, kissing (should she be up for it). There shouldn't be need for negotiation. She is likely to charge extra for CIM, Massage, Anal. The prices of which will be made clear before / during and won't be slapped onto your final tab afterwards.

6. You pay her (how? Do you pay reception / bar or her cash directly?).

7. Repeat steps 4, 5.6 as necessary.

Anything I've missed?

Lastly, I'm planning a trip in October this year for 6 days, and since it's my first time in Germany I was hoping for some ideas on an itinerary. Haven't booked flights yet. I posed on the FKK FAQ pages:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2601-FKK-FAQ

Thanks again.

JM

Pharisaer

09-26-11, 07:48

1. Correct.

2. Correct. Most people, but not all, drop valuables like money, keys, watches into special lockers for valuables.

3. Correct, but haman (30 mins / 40 euro AFAIK) and professional massage is not included.

4. Correct.

5. Multiple cums in a 30 mins session? I've never tried, I'm not sure. Just ask her before you enter the room. Massage is for free. It's just spending (and IMHO wasting) your time, but some girls will be very, very happy if you pay them for 30 mins touching and petting your back. Cim 50 euro extra, anal 100 euro extra.

6. You pay her directly by cash (Note: there's an ATM, if you run out of money). Usually she will wait at entrance to mens dressing room, while you go for the money. She won't expect a tip, but if you are very satisfied: just think about it. Don't forget: girls communicate each other, especially the rumanian und Polish ones.

7. You can repeat step 3, too.

Anything I've missed?Yeah. Be prepared for the all-new slippers.

Angus Magee

09-26-11, 10:48

. You pay her (how? Do you pay reception / bar or her cash directly?).Pay the girl directly, cash, at the money lockers.

Anything I've missed?Umm. Have fun?

AM

Biagio

09-26-11, 14:22

Hello, everyone,

I'm not familiar with the FKK scene in Germany. From reading the forum, I understand that the half an hour rate includes OWO. How much is CIM generally being offered? Rimming? What about anal? Do girls who do swallow charge for swallow in addition to CIM?

Thanks

ZoomerMan

09-26-11, 17:43

5. Multiple cums in a 30 mins session? I've never tried, I'm not sure. Just ask her before you enter the room. Massage is for free. It's just spending (and IMHO wasting) your time, but some girls will be very, very happy if you pay them for 30 mins touching and petting your back. Cim 50 euro extra, anal 100 euro extra.Umm I'm a bit confused as to where things stand on "multiple cums". I'll ask the girls before hand but if anyone can shed some more light on this topic I'd appreciate it!

The Limey

09-26-11, 21:30

That nice for about an hour but I get a little uncomfortable after awhile. I am a big man usually needing a XXL or XXXL.I know what you mean. I also get uncomfortable because I am a big man, though only in the condom size department. Why don't more girls carry XXL's? Or even a range going from Japanese to Afro. I mean, they are supposed to be professionals.

Here is a quiz question for the experts, and I hope it does not generate many angry disagreements among the loyal, but who is the Fraulein with the narrowest pussy at Artemis? I would say it is the Austrian girl (there is only one). If you are going to zimmer her, you have to *insist* she does not use lube.

Pharisaer

09-26-11, 22:07

who is the Fraulein with the narrowest pussy at Artemis? I would say it is the Austrian girl (there is only one). If you are going to zimmer her, you have to *insist* she does not use lube.I don't know the winner in that competition, but: IMHO the Austrian very skinny girl won't be the winner.

And, by the way, she uses lube everytime. Why? Because she's got enough of it, she bought a big big bottle of it last week. But just try to *insist*.

Nooky Ninja

09-26-11, 23:22

New here, but Mr Limey's rant caught my eye, and shows why it is important to take one's meds on schedule.

" I am a big man, though only in the condom size department".

(Sure good to know-I will sleep well tonight).

"Why don't more girls carry XXL's? Or even a range going from Japanese to Afro".

(Maybe cause they don't buy into borderline racism?)

The narrowest pussy at Artemis?

(I think he has answered his own question).

Member #4319

09-27-11, 03:53

5. Multiple cums in a 30 mins session? I've never tried, I'm not sure. Just ask her before you enter the room.I had taken into account the new slippers.

On a serious note I guess I'll just have to take your advice and ask prior to agreeing to go with her. I'm sure that 100% of the time it will be met with a strange look or a laugh, but there's nothing one can do about it!

Just out of interest, what's the "best" city in Germany for general mongering (including FKK)? I'm planning an itinerary and need some guidance! Cheers.

Angus Magee

09-27-11, 09:30

I had taken into account the new slippers.

On a serious note I guess I'll just have to take your advice and ask prior to agreeing to go with her. I'm sure that 100% of the time it will be met with a strange look or a laugh, but there's nothing one can do about it!

Just out of interest, what's the "best" city in Germany for general mongering (including FKK)? I'm planning an itinerary and need some guidance! Cheers.Personally I think you will have your work cut out for you getting an agreement to multiple shots on goal in a half hour session. Not saying it is impossible but it will not be an easy sell.

As for the best over all city I would have to say Berlin. Here you will find everything except a thriving RLD. Unless you count the street scene around Kurfürstenstr. If you are more into the FKK scene then Frankfurt as you then have several to chose from.

AM

Dornstadt

09-27-11, 20:13

Forgive me if this has been answered before, but I just want explicit clarity; is the only option in La Folie to be fully naked?

The exhibitionist in me is excited by this, and the shy-boy is petrified.

I will be there in Berlin on 24th Oct for two days, and will return to Artemis. I didn't get to try La Folie last time as Sunday was my only available day that time.

Thanks in advance.

PS. I know this is Artemis thread, but my query mightn't be seen in 'other FKK'.

Pharisaer

09-27-11, 21:52

If you are more into the FKK scene then Frankfurt as you then have several to chose from.

AMAnd you'll find a regular RLD there near Main Station.

Akibono

09-28-11, 01:16

Charlie 123

09-28-11, 04:06

The narrowest pussy at Artemis?

(I think he has answered his own question).LOL!

Nice one!

Bearsk

09-28-11, 06:54

Well, big boys. You have a choice. Bring your own (I do)

Or sit in the Kino and jerk off by yourself.

Originally Posted by Il Duca

That nice for about an hour but I get a little uncomfortable after awhile. I am a big man usually needing a XXL or XXXL.

I know what you mean. I also get uncomfortable because I am a big man, though only in the condom size department. Why don't more girls carry XXL's? Or even a range going from Japanese to Afro. I mean, they are supposed to be professionals.

Here is a quiz question for the experts, and I hope it does not generate many angry disagreements among the loyal, but who is the Fraulein with the narrowest pussy at Artemis? I would say it is the Austrian girl (there is only one). If you are going to zimmer her, you have to *insist* she does not use lube.

Nooky Ninja

09-28-11, 12:02

LOL!

Nice one!Tried to PM you but says all blocked? (check other email?) Might be at Art Bday Thurs pm. You around?

Could meet up.

Dornstadt

09-28-11, 16:22

It's been years since I have been there, but the usual routine is naked with a towel way to small to cover anything.I don't walk into the bar from the dressing room like a complete tool in my 'Jeyes Fluid' if that's not the don't thing. And does one have slippers?

Norjan

09-28-11, 18:46

Norjan

09-28-11, 18:54

Cool thanks for that. So just to summarise the Artemis process for those who are looking for it:

1. You roll up to Artemis at the door, no need to book in advance. You pay them the entry of 80euros.

2. You drop your stuff off into the locker (including or excluding valuables, depending on your choice. What's the done thing?) and throw on the robe / towel and slippers.

3. The place has spas / showers / saunas / pools etc. Everything that's listed on their site and you have free access. There's also free non alcoholic drinks and may even be some food and you can help yourself.

4. Amid all this relaxation will be many, many naked women who will be trying to catch your eye and talk to you. You chat to one of them you like the look of and if you click you can make suggestions as to the sort of things she does or does not like to do.

5. 60euros buys you 30mins of her time including OWO, multiple-cums within the 30mins, full protected sex, kissing (should she be up for it). There shouldn't be need for negotiation. She is likely to charge extra for CIM, Massage, Anal. The prices of which will be made clear before / during and won't be slapped onto your final tab afterwards.

6. You pay her (how? Do you pay reception / bar or her cash directly?).

7. Repeat steps 4, 5.6 as necessary.

Anything I've missed?

Lastly, I'm planning a trip in October this year for 6 days, and since it's my first time in Germany I was hoping for some ideas on an itinerary. Haven't booked flights yet. I posed on the FKK FAQ pages:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2601-FKK-FAQ

Thanks again.

JM2. Expert tip: Leave your watch, jewellery etc in the safe at your hotel. Just bring cash.

3. Expert tip: Eat at a restaurant before going to the club, or leave for a restaurant and come back again.

Norjan

09-28-11, 19:02

The narrowest pussy at Artemis?

(I think he has answered his own question).Touché

LOL # 2.

Norjan

JimmyVegas

09-28-11, 19:08

Looking for a girl with very large pussy lips. Inner labia. Any suggestions. Thanks.

Touché

LOL # 2.

Norjan

Pharisaer

09-28-11, 20:58

Finally new sandals. And I thought I was the only one here with sandal / slipper issues. Apparently not, judging by the number of comments. Is this really true? I sure hope this is'nt a joke.Hope dies at least. You will love Artemis all-new slippers, especially if your size is 40 or 41. Be prepared.

Kimino

09-29-11, 10:56

Guess it's the pink ones.

Out of curiosity (I normally bring my flipflops) what's the color of 44/45 size?

We should probably post a table with shoe number (eu / UK / USA) and color, just to limit the faqs for the future. :)

Ciao.

Kimino (missing Berlin very very much)

Angus Magee

09-29-11, 11:10

A table? I think we need an app for the smart phone. Anyone want to invest in it?

Off to our favorite flip flop store in a few short hours for the 6 year anniversary party, hopefully for some Pink Bush and Artemisia Absinthium.

AM

ZimmerBaby

09-29-11, 11:36

Kimino (missing Berlin very very much)May God save the liberal legislation of Berlin. As I see from the Italy-Milan part of this site, it seems like everything is dead except from 400 euro / hour girls. Where does Berlusconi go? Zimmer is traveling to Milan soon and has limited hopes.

Kimino

09-29-11, 16:43

May God save the liberal legislation of Berlin. As I see from the Italy-Milan part of this site, it seems like everything is dead except from 400 euro / hour girls. Where does Berlusconi go? Zimmer is traveling to Milan soon and has limited hopes.Not that bad but very difficult to handle, especially for people that don't know the territory. And remember, it's illegal here. You have a lot of apartment girls but nothing relaxed.

If you can move, you could try here. 1hr from Milan.

http://www.baroceano.ch/Inglese/home.html

Never been but people I know and that have visited many fkks say the lineup is very very good, much better than Artemis. 100E half hour, quite a lot of sharks around (but you know how to handle them).

Place is a club / disco, nothing special.

If you come here I suggest you concentrate on good food and wine and save your money for when you are in germany.

Anyway, here is another local and very big site. But don't trust too much the info.

http://www.escortforum.net/

Kimino

Norjan

09-29-11, 17:15

Too bad, my size is EU 43. I hope they are white cause then it will be easy to spot a fresh pair.

Norjan

Didi Vise

09-29-11, 18:19

I proudly took a pair of pink shoes.

The girls seems to like it when you do.

Had a great time in Artemis with Nina (what an amazing woman)

And with Linnet from Hungary, had a treesome with her Audry that was great and one on one that was great as well.

Member #4319

09-30-11, 00:57

2. Expert tip: Leave your watch, jewellery etc in the safe at your hotel. Just bring cash.

3. Expert tip: Eat at a restaurant before going to the club, or leave for a restaurant and come back again.Is the food that bad inside? Thanks for the tips. How do English speakers get by in Berlin / Frankfurt? I have never studied German and only know,"do you have a nickname" and "I must leave in 25 minutes" for comedy value. Are they the kind of cities that welcome tourists and where the locals speak English or am I going to have my work massively cut out, like in Moscow where nobody speaks a word. (I don't mind, I think it's the responsibility of the traveller to learn the local language and not the other way around, but it would be nice to know if I have a lot of homework to do or not.)

Mak

Pharisaer

09-30-11, 08:38

Is the food that bad inside?Breakfast (offered til 3 pm) is just like in an average hotel. If you prefer coffee for breakfast: Pick up your coffee at the bar, not in the breakfast room. Note: there is no lunch. Dinner is sometimes bad, sometimes worse. But you will survive. Maybe you bring your own cookies.

How do English speakers get by in Berlin / Frankfurt?English language will work in Frankfurt and Berlin as well. Maybe Frankfurt is a little bit more international and more locals speak English.

By the way:

Expert tip 2a: Leave your watch in the safe at your hotel, but bring a simple bordello-watch. Its very useful sometimes, not only to check the time the girls selling you.

Rocketboy0

09-30-11, 09:44

Is the food that bad inside? Thanks for the tips. How do English speakers get by in Berlin / Frankfurt?Mak Herr Mak -you can relax on multiple fronts. Respectfully disagree about security & food advice. Artemis (indeed all FKKs) has video-observed little cash lockers where one and all safely store their Rolexes, smart phones, and diamond rings. Not an issue. Food: it's a little heavy, typical N. German cooking, and it can be uneven, but on a good night, more than adequate. While others do occasionally go out, IMHO not really worth the hassle of extra expense and travel outside for a better meal (the food better at Palace Frankfurt than Artemis). Anyway you are not there for the meals and really, it's fine. As with the quantity and quality of the girls themselves, I think the food is better on busier nights, Wed-Sat.

On the language issue-it is not. Most everyone in both cities understands and speaks enough English that you'll be fine. If you learn the German for "sorry I can't speak German-do you speak a little English" then you have made the polite gesture that many locals will appreciate. As in,"Es tut mir lied (or even just "Sorry"), ich kann nicht auf Deutsch reden. Sprechen Sie ein bischen Englisch"? If you say this well enough, it will raise the deep philosophical question, how you can speak German so well if you cannot speak German, surely to go down well in the land of Kant.

While not like say the Netherlands or Scandinavia, where many locals speak English better than English tourists, Frankfurt is a key global banking and trading center, military post, and travel hub. Berlin is one of the official world wild cities, home to designer wannabees, cybernauts, biotechers, auteurs, artistes, and oh yes by the way a large population of 'tutes (see the biblical Angus Magee blogs and guide service). Both cities are always full of foreigners and can cope fine with English. As many (most) of the girls in FKKs are either foreigners themselves, or used to kilometers of multi-culti Liebes Würstchens, all speak more than enough English to get tongues and poles in the right holes. The language stuff is perhaps slightly more of an issue in private bordellos and apartments, but only marginally. You are not in Kansas anymore Todo, but you will understand and be understood. Really, don't worry about any of these things, just cum and enjoy the ride.

Angus Magee

09-30-11, 10:03

With all do respect to Norjan: Expert tip-When reading internet forums take some time to read a poster's past posts. Then take what some posters write as a reflection of their own inner experience (neurosis?) , not as "how things are".

The food at Artemis is exactly as RB states. It is generally quite decent with a few not so good dishes from time to time. If you visit weekly you will probably get sick of it and want to eat out. For a one time visit, it is fine and gets the job done.

As for the rest I, for once, agree completely with everything RB says.

AM

Rocketboy0

09-30-11, 11:41

Jason. I have erred in my German below. It should be "Es tut mir leid" (not lied). Or just say,"Sorry aber." Trendy Denglish. Sorry for the misspelling-these things matter here.

The truth is, I am not my sharp self, coming off a rough, long night from the Artemis 6th Birthday Party, where I had been kidnapped and taken prisoner, with no small bit of encouragement if not outright collaboration by the infamous local cuntisour, Baron Angus von Magee and the manager, Herr Kennen. Their joint mission is to corrupt my soul and destabilize my mind. Quite the spectacle with full steer roasting on a spit, live band, tent city, fireworks, champagne. Very busy night, with some fallout from the Venus Messe. At a very late hour, still guarding my evening's virginity and somewhat underwhelmed by the available talent, I was taken by the Czech or maybe Slovakian Erika, who removed the dark cloud above me, and set off the second round of pm fireworks. Long black hair, lovely full breasts and petite body, and recommended. But now, I am paying the price. I try to quit, but every time, they pull me back in.

Excess

09-30-11, 16:30

Jason. I have erred in my German below. It should be "Es tut mir leid" (not lied).Considering all the tall tales by both buyers and sellers that are to be heard in FKK`s and other Clubs and similar venues providing hobby activities, perhaps your original German,". Mir lied" is both more accurate and correct, Rocket Boy. Thanks!

E.

Angus Magee

09-30-11, 17:55

For my third year is a row I managed to make it to the annual Artemis birthday bash last night. I was in the company of Rocketboy who I met on route as we both decided that bicycles would be the preferred mode of transport on this late September day that almost felt like summer. We pulled up to a full parking lot at shortly after 18:30 and could immediately see that it was to be a busy evening with the double whammy of the birthday bash and the start of the Berlin Venus Show at the near by Messe.

After dragging Rocketboy through the entrance we found out lockers and were soon showered robed and uncomfortable shod in the much anticipated new bath sandals. (Expert tip # 50678-Grab a pair of sandals that are a bit bigger than your usual shoe size until the new sandals stretch out a bit. I usually take a size 45/46 but was uncomfortable so I switched up and they were perfect.)

I have to say the place was hopping as I had not seen it is a long time. My last couple of visits were in the mid week summer days and this was Artemis as I remembered it from the glory days. Languages being spoken were many and varied as I noted visitors from Italy, Scandinavia and France to name a few. The dress code for the ladies was pink or white and the evening was shaping up to be like Dessous Tag on steroids as the ladies preened and posed in their finery. I know many of you do not like this covering up but for this reporter it was a dream come true and I very much was enjoying all the scantily clad ladies looking their best.

RB and I took a tour of the facilities, including a visit to the food tent set up for this event, but both agreed that the spitted steer would have to wait until later. Whatever else one may think of the FKK party, this evening's food was to be a real treat for meat lovers. Nothing at all like a full steer roasting slowly over an open fire pit to bring out the cave man in you.

My own agenda for the evening was, first, to determine if the Pink Panther was present, session with her and put to rest the question of pink Bush once and for all. Failing this I would find either Nina or Fatima with similar result. Nina in fact had the slight edge on Fatima as I had just two weeks prior been with Fatima. As absence makes the heart grow fonder, Nina was the front runner. As luck would have it I spotted Nina as we were arriving so I knew she was there, but shortly after I had seen Fatima so she was still in the running,

After a hour or so of wandering I was pretty sure that PP was to be a no show this evening. Schade. However, in the main bar I ran into Nina and after a short conversation she asked me if we were to find a room or wait until later perhaps. No hesitation on my part and we were up the stairs waiting for a room less than a minute later. At this hour the room wait was brief (it was to become much longer later on) and the next half hour was spent in the arms of one of the best (IMO) that Artemis has to offer. I left fully satisfied.

The rest of the evening I spent hanging out, eating (the food was great) , drinking a little and just doing what one generally does at Artemis when not in the rooms. It was by all accounts a pretty raucous evening, one that I have not seen in a while. The fire works were set off shortly after 22:00 with the whole population, robe and towel clad, emptying out into the parking lot, given champagne and ohh-ing & ahh-ing in all the right places. It was a good show and I faithfully recorded it from the shadows to post on the blog for those who are interested.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=779

After this RB was, or seemed to me to be, in full indecision mode. Was he to session on this, possibly (by his account) his last Artemis visit for a year, possibly longer? He seemed determined to find someone, but who? As for me, I was pretty well satisfied with my one. There was a tall, slightly dark skinned and terribly skinny beauty I had half an eye on but I was not overly enthusiastic about making the second trip to the rooms. In the end I did nothing about and was happy about it the next morning when I opened my wallet, if not totally happy at the time of temptation.

There were a couple of note worthy scenes to be seen in the drunken bacchanalia that is the birthday bash. At one point I went off for a shower and noticed that they guy who stumbled in after me had a peculiar dangling off his pecker-a used and full condom that his companion had for some reason failed to remove and dispose of. The dollop dangled precariously throughout the shower time and Old Angus unfortunately could not keep his eyes averted as I was convinced the bag would fall, spilling its' contents on the shower floor and I wanted to be ready to jump out of the way for what could be the worst spill since last year's Gulf oil spill.

Next was the large Turkish fellow who had consumed, it seemed, more than his share of the champagne, or perhaps the open beer bar, then decided he had no need of a robe and came stumbling paralytically up the stairs in glorious nakedness, his pierced 'unit' on full display. He made it as far as one of the couches just inside the bar where he passed out and was still there (mercifully now covered) when I left and hour or so later.

Finally at this late hour RB had settled on his date du jour and after a wait was off to the 'Zimmer'. He came down looking satisfied (see his report) and after a short, unsuccessful forage for food we were changed and on the way home. Got to say that on warm Berlin nights the bike is definitely a great way to get home and avoid the waiting and tension last UBahn / SBahn can bring. I was home in no time and asleep even faster.

Thanks for reading.

AM

Norjan

10-01-11, 12:52

Is the food that bad inside? Thanks for the tips. How do English speakers get by in Berlin / Frankfurt? I have never studied German and only know,"do you have a nickname" and "I must leave in 25 minutes" for comedy value. Are they the kind of cities that welcome tourists and where the locals speak English or am I going to have my work massively cut out, like in Moscow where nobody speaks a word. (I don't mind, I think it's the responsibility of the traveller to learn the local language and not the other way around, but it would be nice to know if I have a lot of homework to do or not.)

MakThe food and the dining hall is unappetizing because of the environment with half naked men in robes who, unfortunately, not all of them is taking care too much about their hygiene. This is fact, not an opinion. If this doesn't bother you, you'll be fine.

I don't speak german but it has never been a problem in Berlin.

Norjan

Norjan

10-01-11, 13:25

There were a couple of note worthy scenes to be seen in the drunken bacchanalia that is the birthday bash. At one point I went off for a shower and noticed that they guy who stumbled in after me had a peculiar dangling off his pecker-a used and full condom that his companion had for some reason failed to remove and dispose of. The dollop dangled precariously throughout the shower time and Old Angus unfortunately could not keep his eyes averted as I was convinced the bag would fall, spilling its' contents on the shower floor and I wanted to be ready to jump out of the way for what could be the worst spill since last year's Gulf oil spill.

Next was the large Turkish fellow who had consumed, it seemed, more than his share of the champagne, or perhaps the open beer bar, then decided he had no need of a robe and came stumbling paralytically up the stairs in glorious nakedness, his pierced 'unit' on full display. He made it as far as one of the couches just inside the bar where he passed out and was still there (mercifully now covered) when I left and hour or so later.

AMWell, now you know why I'm beeing careful and taking precautions. Things like this happen all the time. Have'nt you noticed before?

You could'nt keep your eyes off his prick? With all do respect, maybe you are the one having a neurosis in this temporarily moment of clarity?

Norjan

Kimino

10-01-11, 15:08

The food and the dining hall is unappetizing because of the environment with half naked men in robes.

NorjanOn this I agree with Norjan. I also dislike the setup.

The food is usually decent but eating in a restaurant being served by somebody and having the food and drink I like is one of the things that combine to make my Berlin trip a good experience, on the same level as staying in a decent hotel and fucking good looking girls. So I usually leave and have my dinner elsewhere.

If it's just a matter of not starving, or if it's taken from the economic point of view, the internal restaurant is absolutely adequate.

Ciao.

Kimino

London Traveller

10-01-11, 23:02

I had a perfectly satisfactory dinner in the club this evening with home-made fishcakes, a baked potato, vegetables and salad, together with celery soup and fresh fruit for dessert. I was accompanied at my table by two very lovely young ladies, who certainly wouldn't have sat with me in a restaurant elsewhere in Berlin. One of them was my regular Berlin squeeze and the other was her friend.

Afterwards my squeeze went off with some other guy and I took a while to choose before I found Cora, who was recommended by a friend of mine who had seen her earlier that evening. A 21 year old tanned blonde from Hamburg, financing her studies with this work, she was responsive in the room and came very nicely in response to my tongue, kissing wasn't her strong point but she did just about pass muster, she looked nice in the mirror doing her BBBJ (with attention to apricots on request) and I enjoyed sex with her in a few positions. Although I wasn't very happy that she rushed me at the end and finished the hour ten minutes early (maybe she was including the 10 mins we spent waiting for the room?).

ZimmerBaby

10-02-11, 08:22

If you come here I suggest you concentrate on good food and wine and save your money for when you are in germany.

KiminoThank you K, here is my plan, but I feel this sorrow I must admit;

Amarone instead of anal.

Pasta instead of pussy.

Tiramisu instead of tits.

Duomo instead of DATY.

Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II instead of GFE.

Orto Botanico di Brera instead of OWO.

No Zimmer, baby.

Pyramidguy

10-02-11, 10:59

I happened to be in Berlin on 29th September and made the wise choice to attend the Artemis 6th Birthday bash. I've not visited Artemis before but I've been to a few FKKs in southern germany (Frankfurt etc) , and I'm a regular at Lady Marmalade Parties (LMP) in London, and with the help of reading some of this forum I was comfortable with what I was going to find there.

I arrived around 8pm and there was a bit of a queue to get in, but everything was well explained and felt safe and clean. I had a wander around, checking out the lovely ladies and getting into the general vibe of the party atmosphere. The tented restaurant was serving some very tender Ox meat which washed down well with some cold beer. That provided a bit of sustainance so I went back into the club to find the girls and guys leaving by the front door. Strange I thought. So followed them out, to look back at the fantastic firework display that took place above the Club house. The show went on for about 10 minutes to lots of "ooohssss and aaahhhhhsss" (on this occasion, not restricted to the Kino or the Zimmers.)

Now, I think of going to FKKs and LMP as a bit like being a lucky kid in a candy store, and it is the opportunity to sample many different tastes and flavours from around the world (brazilians are my personal favourite). So tonight was a bit atypical for me! Given there were lot of guys and gals tonight it was always going to be difficult to find the girls available who you wanted to play with, but on this occasion, Ruby (a slightly older Hungarian lady, good looking, friendly and totally awesome in bed!) found me whilst we watched the fireworks and I ended up spending 90 mins and 1hr in her company, managing to cum four times with her and get her to genuinely O rather than fake, twice. Now, I am always wary of the babe siddling up to you and turning a fast one but this was different with Ruby. Whilst I expected clock watching and pressure to cum because there were hundreds of guys out there, it was nothing like that this time. We had a really good time together and whilst I had the intent of playing with some other women, I just felt that going back to a known quality was a better use of money. An example of what I meant: There were two very pretty young blondes who took a guest into one of the tents and he was back out literally 5 minutes later, no doubt €120 lighter. I am sure he had a happy time but I got 1hr of real quality with Ruby for the same price!

I really liked the set up of Artemis (wellness spa area on ground floor) and a Kino (some hot action there) and a few rooms there) , the main bar area (observed sexy but simulated lessie 3 some for 10 mins floor show, good live band) , restaurant (excellent food tonight) , changing rooms and safety boxes on the ground floor and then rooms on the upper floors. Decor was good, showers were clean and lockers all secure.

All in all I spent about 6 hours there and had an awesome experience. Will definitely return!

Just need to find a reason to return to Berlin soon and hopefully find Ruby again (will try a couple more girls too next time if the opportunity arises)

Take care,

Pyramid

Bearsk

10-03-11, 06:17

Erika of Slovakia restored your virginity, took it away again and restored your faith.

Such an amazing feat in one somewhat cynical must means she's a witch, of sorts, if a comely one.

Given that during prior note comparison we have almost completely non overlapping vendiagrams at Artemis, I hope to rectify that in the next month or so.

At a very late hour, still guarding my evening's virginity and somewhat underwhelmed by the available talent, I was taken by the Czech or maybe Slovakian Erika, who removed the dark cloud above me, and set off the second round of pm fireworks. Long black hair, lovely full breasts and petite body, and recommended. But now, I am paying the price. I try to quit, but every time, they pull me back in.

Mrlarkin

10-03-11, 07:14

Rocketboy0

10-03-11, 09:08

Given that during prior note comparison we have almost completely non overlapping vendiagrams at Artemis, I hope to rectify that in the next month or so.B- you know more than most it is all part of nature's plan to keep Ven diagrams from overlapping; it helps ensure the survival of the species by increasing the odds that all find a mate with whom to mate, Mate. But I am happy to help share my spheres, or rather hers. Of course YMMV.

On the rest, there is a difference between being cynical, which I am not, and skeptical, which I most certainly am. The female species can blind one, temporarily. However, I do stand by my sense that Ye Olde Love Bahnhoff team is just not what it used to be. Yes yes yes IMHO yes it is a taste thing, and I myself am not what I used to be, all points taken. It is just becoming more satisfying and affordable to be with a few really good favorites where there is some connection, in apartments. It is great fun to hang out with a few buddies in Artemis, shoot the shit with the loony masseurs, clown with the management, and just relax for hours, etc. I will no doubt miss that, and the birthday party was indeed entertaining, although having my trusty Wingman along surely helped. But I'm just going to partake a lot less. It used to be, and admittedly it was in the early days when things were a lot less settled, that you could turn up and there would be 5+ new staff who would really ring my bell. The excitement of a lot of constantly new and really good talent was a big draw. Those days are gone, at least for me as a local. (Yes yes yes it is different when you are just visiting, and yes it is different if you prefer a quite young, thin waify type vs a more voluptuous curvy late 20s-mid 30s woman (which I do). Now, a cynic would just leave it at that, but a skeptic says, well maybe it's me and my perception could be wrong, so best collect some 3rd party info. I have talked about it with some of my remaining female favs there, asking simply, do they sense a change? And actually, they concur. From their side, they comment that the men have also changed, as they seem a lot more boorish, the weekend and Messe rushes seem more physically taxing, and so forth. And they too are not wild about the change in staff, as they seem to have less in common socially and linguistically.

Who knows? Obviously all this highly subjective, and ultimately a matter of personal choice. We report, you decide. In any case, give a heads up when you enter Berlin airspace.

The Limey

10-03-11, 20:33

A happy sixth birthday to Artemis. Spent a relaxed afternoon at the club. Things seem to have calmed down a bit after all the partying, which is the way I like it.

Saw a lot of familiar faces that did not interest me. My favourites were not there when I arrived. But quite early on, I ran into someone fresh: a curvy flaxen-haired beauty from a village in der Deutschen Hinterland with a great bosom that showed no signs of artifice. DOREEN. I spent about ten minutes chatting to her in German and making sure she was the real deal, and then let myself be led to a room. Was she hot? Well, after I left the room, another girl put her hand on my neck and said, oh! You're burning up. So I realized I had to shower quickly before going into meltdown.

People keep talking about the food at Artemis. I would say that it's ok but if you thought from your entrance fee that you were entering a palace, you will be disappointed. If you need cheering up there's always the coloured slippers. Speaking of which, they should also hand out pink turbans as I noticed one poor guy had to bring his own. How is a guy supposed to impress the chicks if he doesn't have a pink turban?

Hessen Bub

10-03-11, 21:59

Thinking of visiting Artemis, however I have one question regarding smoking. Are the girls smoking inside the building and are the customers themselves allowed to smoke inside. If not, where do people smoke? I have a sort of a fetish for smoking. It turns me on seeing a hot girl smoke.You will be the happiest man on earth: About 90% of the girls smoke. It is allowed everywhere on the main floor. In fact it gets so smoky at night that you don't even have to light your own cigarette to get enough nicotine.

HB

Norjan

10-04-11, 17:38

If you take two girls to a room for a "lesbian show" would that be 2 x 60 Euros? I mean if you only watch them make out and don't fuck them? Any recommendations about which girls to ask?

Norjan

Angus Magee

10-04-11, 17:45

If you take two girls to a room for a "lesbian show" would that be 2 x 60 Euros? I mean if you only watch them make out and don't fuck them? Any recommendations about which girls to ask?

NorjanIf you are only to watch this may be negotiable. Normally (that is if you are also having sex with them, oral or otherwise) the cost would be the normal rate of €60 per girl for the half hour plus €50 / girl for the lesbian show. Rather a high fee if you ask me. However the if as you say you will not touch the girls, and if you can find a couple of girls who are game, you might be able to bring it home for less. In any case it seems like a reasonable request to me. Just don't wack off and shower the girls with cum. Then you will rightfully be charged for cob.

AM

Norjan

10-04-11, 19:54

If you are only to watch this may be negotiable. Normally (that is if you are also having sex with them, oral or otherwise) the cost would be the normal rate of €60 per girl for the half hour plus €50 / girl for the lesbian show. Rather a high fee if you ask me. However the if as you say you will not touch the girls, and if you can find a couple of girls who are game, you might be able to bring it home for less. In any case it seems like a reasonable request to me. Just don't wack off and shower the girls with cum. Then you will rightfully be charged for cob.

AMOk, sounds fair. Wacking off at Artemis, now that would be a seriously disturbed thing to do. LOL.

Think it would be nice to watch a "show" between sessions, if there is any suitable couple (preferably blondes) around on my next vist.

Norjan

Hakan Lube

10-05-11, 19:20

Do you need to supply your own nonlubricated condom if you want a CBJ, or do the girls have them? This will be my first trip to a place where BBBJ's are the norm, so I just want to make sure I'm prepared.

Angus Magee

10-06-11, 03:25

No need to bring your own condom. The girls always have a plentiful supply.

AM

Nebula2001

10-08-11, 18:04

I did my traditional Wednesday pilgrimage to Artemis this week, so here a little status report:

Seen a few new faces that I didn't see the week before. So, if you add those to the girls who joined the team in the last few weeks, there's a considerable amount of new territory to be explored, especially if you haven't visited the club for a few weeks. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Kimino!)

Of those new faces, I had the opportunity to session with a Romanian called Tamara (IIRC) for a few hours and she was very good. Definitely recommendable and added to my short list of 'to repeat'.

As for the general atmosphere, it was quite enjoyable. High girl-to-monger ratio and not very crowded (though definitely not empty either.)

Kimino

10-09-11, 03:48

So, if you add those to the girls who joined the team in the last few weeks, there's a considerable amount of new territory to be explored, especially if you haven't visited the club for a few weeks. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Kimino!)Arghhhhhhh.

Like Angus said:
<<
"Just when I thought I was out. They pull me back in." Sil doing Pacino.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4rMCJBD3E&feature=related
>>

:)

Next trip, mid November. Looking forward.

Ciao!

Member #4285

10-09-11, 22:27

I did my traditional Wednesday pilgrimage to Artemis this week, so here a little status report:How is the Wednesday-lingerie days at Artemis? As a big fan of lingerie on girls I really like these theme days. I have been in Oase at a lingerie-day but was dissapointed. Some girls just put on a regular bra or something boring. I like when they dress up themselfs with a thought.

I am planning to go very soon for a Wednesday party (:

Nebula2001

10-09-11, 23:32

Kimino

10-09-11, 23:46

How is the Wednesday-lingerie days at Artemis? As a big fan of lingerie on girls I really like these theme days. I have been in Oase at a lingerie-day but was dissapointed. Some girls just put on a regular bra or something boring. I like when they dress up themselfs with a thought.

I am planning to go very soon for a Wednesday party (:You will probably be disappointed also at Artemis. When I plan my trips I usually try to be there on Wednesday because, like you, I like lingerie or in general I prefer the girls to wear something instead of being totally naked. I think that just a minority like lingerie days, but who cares anyway.

With few exceptions, girls simply wear something that partially cover something but very few are able of doing it with some taste. Same goes for the make up. But I still prefer it to "normal" nights. And sometime some girls really do it the right way.

There has been a lot of turnover in the girls lineup so maybe things have changed.

Also, but I never tryed it, you could ask a girl to wear something special before going to the room, at max she is going to refuse. Or ask you an extra. Might try it myself next time, I'm thinking of a couple of girls there that might be incredible if dressed up correctly.

If you happen to go on the 15th of nov. We might meet as I'll be there.

Ciao.

Kimino

Member #4285

10-10-11, 00:20

If you happen to go on the 15th of nov. We might meet as I'll be there.Unfortunately not. You seem to have good taste and it would have been fun to kill some time with you between sessions. I'll be there probably 1-3 November. I'll try Artemis at a Wednesday and report back after that. Maybe see you another time. Nebula2001 also appears to be a gentleman, maybe he is there on his usual Wednesday visit? (:

Thanks for your quick reply!

Nebula2001

10-10-11, 00:43

Also, but I never tryed it, you could ask a girl to wear something special before going to the room, at max she is going to refuse. Or ask you an extra. Might try it myself next time, I'm thinking of a couple of girls there that might be incredible if dressed up correctly.Getting a girl to wear something else is certainly possible. So much so, my latest favorite girl changes to the dress I like even without me asking for it anymore or does a little fashion show for me if she's got something new. However, I don't think a girl you met for the first time would be willing to change to another outfit unless you're charming or there's an extra involved. But that's just my guess.

Nebula2001

10-10-11, 00:46

Nebula2001 also appears to be a gentleman,Oh, I'm a complete gentleman unless I'm with a girl. (If that's the case, I turn into an adorable "Arschloch" as they invariably end up calling me.)

maybe he is there on his usual Wednesday visit?I can't promise anything one month ahead, but as a rule of thumb if it's Wednesday I'll try to be there. You could PM me closer to your date of arrival.

Grestal

10-10-11, 12:32

Its is about time to make my comments for Artemis

I am frequenting there whenever I am visiting Berlin, and this time was a unique opportunity as I have to be there for almost a week

Saturday day No 1

Though I had already visited one massage parlor nearby my hotel and although Saturday night is a bad day ' little devil' inside me push me to the temple of lust.

Usual entry fee and procedure with the known Saturday night panic. I looked for my 'gold standards ' but either they were not present or very busy. Finally just to take advantage of the entry fee, I choose a girl (I think her name is Niki) Blond, big boobs and lips a bit damaged by the plastic surgeon and a big tattoo on her left arm. I admit I was attracted by the big boobs (I am addicted to them) mistake number 2, I accepted the upgrade CIM. As no rooms were available we went to the sofas with the curtains in the main room upstairs.

She started blowing me, and I politely asked her to slow down, I did this twice, but it seems that she was def. In any case she finished me in DT time, which is unacceptable. Any way She spoiled my night and went back to my hotel. 190 euros badly spend

Next day Sunday and as I had plenty of time prior my afternoon meeting in ICC, I decided to stop by once again. It was around 4 o'clock and Artemis was a 'buyers market ' around 30 ladies and 10 to 15 customers.

This time I was able to trace Amelie, that we have met last year and she had left me the very best of impressions. We headed immediately for a room and she gave me a mix of GFE to PSE. This lady is just amazing. After the financial formalities and hygiene procedures we met each other at the bar. Soon her friend Ambra joined us and we carry on chit chat with lots of laughter. After my ' recovery ' from the thunderstorm Amelie, I opted for a duo as long as they agree.

Poor me, Guys its very hard to be in between these gorgeous creatures. This duo is not recommended for the ones experiencing heart problems. These ladies are simply lethal weapons.

Tuesday night, and visit no 3. It was a bussy day and I was relaxing in the kino downstairs. Once again none of the sure bets was around, so I was wondering who will be the lucky one to offer me some stress relief. A Romanian girl approached me, though Romanians are No-No for me, I opted for the basic program.

Nothing much, but I still remember the face of Niki that show me with another girl, while I have turn her down numerous times (4 times just in 30 minutes)

Whille I was showering I saw Ambra passing by and going to the ladies area, I was waiting for her for almost an hour but she didn't return. So I try my luck with Nikoleta from Bulgaria (she looks like a twin with Amelie) What shall I say for her, another precious joule in that place. Another prefect combination of GFE & PSE

Thursday night and I am about to pay my farewell visit. Once again Niki approached me but this time my answer was ' another time in another life '

So, given the fact that my next visit is not yet scheduled, I decided to take back home only very good memories

Amelie was my 'victim' or I was hers? Section no 1 and she simply took my breath away. It looks like there was some chemistry among us. She proposed to have a drink afterwards. Which we did. We talked for this and that and finally the lower head commanded me to go for another round.

Well I left the room half dead.

Overall conclusion after these visits, Artemis is going strong the quality is still very high and the service as good as we expect and as long as we keep on updating each other for the 'sharks '

The Cane

10-10-11, 16:56

Rohan Cid

10-10-11, 19:08

Euro100

10-11-11, 06:16

I would like to know, what's the best way to get from London, England to Artemis by rail? I'm asking because if I could ever make a return trip to London I would like to make a day trip there if possible. Any info would be much appreciated.I would suggest you take the train to Stansted, then take Ryan Air to Berlin. MUCH faster and probably cheaper, too.

Angus Magee

10-11-11, 12:26

I would suggest you take the train to Stansted, then take Ryan Air to Berlin. MUCH faster and probably cheaper, too.You could probably find a connection through Belgium and make it to Berlin by train but Euro is 100% right-by air it would be faster and likely cheaper as long as you book a little in advance. As well as Ryan Air check out Air Berlin. I think they fly out of Stansted as well as Heathrow.

AM

Rocketboy0

10-11-11, 12:48

EasyJet flies from both Gatwick & Luton, with up to 3 flights per day and can be 30-40 EUR one way when booked in advance. Schoenefeld-EasyJet combo makes me feel like a rat in a maze who gets rewarded by cheap cheese, but it is cheap. Hopefully when new Berlin-Brandenburg Mega Airport opens next year the experience will be vaguely better though the transit links to the city still an issue. I took an 15 min express bus to SudBahnhoff / Sudkreuz station and it was 6 EUR because I did not buy the (2.70 good for 2 hrs) ticket at an automat; in Berlin you can buy tickets on all buses for same normal price except this-ouch. S-Bahns can be tempermental in cold weather. Tegel, while it lasts, a lot more pleasant and much closer to the action. Oddly sometimes SAS has cheap flights via Copenhagen. All will depend upon the day. The train-expensive, takes forever, lots of station changes, subject recently to odd political statements, very often late, and really why?

Pharisaer

10-11-11, 13:21

I would like to know, what's the best way to get from London, England to Artemis by rail? I'm asking because if I could ever make a return trip to London I would like to make a day trip there if possible. Any info would be much appreciated.A day trip by train? Impossible. Maybe an overnight trip is an option?

Take the 6:19 am Eurostar from St. Pancras, change in Bruxelles Midi and Cologne, you'll reach Berlin Main Station 5:10 pm. Perfect for Dinner in Artemis.

Stay there overnight, fuck the whole night, and than take the 6:51 am ICE from Berlin Main Station, change in Cologne and Bruxelles Midi, you'll back in London 3:26 pm.

Note: Latest non-stop flight AFAIK departs SXF 9 pm (Schoenefeld). You have to leave Artemis not later than 7 pm. You'll miss all the night-shift-girls.

Optimist

10-11-11, 15:08

day trip by train impossible. flying is possible

and don't forget lufthansa. it has many flights from heathrow each day so that makes a day trip more possible. flights can easily be as low as £89 return from london. and that is all inclusive, with reserved seats (so no queuing up like cattle) and on board wine / beer, and something edible. and with customer service (in my experience) years ahead of easyjet (and even more so ryanair). don't compare the headline price for lo-cost carriers until you have added in the lo-cost baggage charges, booking fees, any check-in fees, any speedy boarding etc

ZimmerBaby

10-11-11, 17:19

I haven't read anything about petite, pretty, blonde Marketa in a while. Is she still at Artemis? Man, she was fucking EVERYBODY! Couldn't stay out of the rooms and off of her back. I cautioned way back when that at the rate she was going, it was only a matter of time before she became "fucked out". I know she made some good money though. Still can't believe that a tiny girl like her took me deep in her arsehole. Glad I got me some that "pink wink" while she was still in her prime and at the top of her game. If I recall correctly, she is a Czech. The Czech and Polish girls are the best in Europa!She is still there, and actually at my last visit not long time ago, while being in 69-position with her for some reason I started thinking about your reports, maybe it was this cross-association, or maybe I was not in mood for sex that particular day. So, while licking her I was staring and staring at her asshole and I could not stop thinking of these sentences;

"So when I had my chance, I took it and was pleasantly surprised that such a petite girl took me deep in her tight ass too!"

"That's right my friends! I cornholed her deep up in that Czech butthole of hers and was saying out loud so all in the kino could hear how I was fucking her in her asshole. Was surprised that such a petite little girl like that was taking it so well up the yin yang."

"I buggered Shauna up the butt as hard and as fierce as I have any human being. I took immense joy watching her scream and cry out and clutch and scratch at the sheets with with fingernails. And looking at herself in the bedside mirror at the same time. Getting thoroughly sodomized up her arsehole. And responding YEAH when I asked her if she liked me dickin' her in her Polish asshole. GAWD I love to fuck Polish girls!"

"I hammered home on Ellie like a sex offender just escaped from the insane asylum and she SCREAMED her lungs out with pleasure. We were both moaning and hollering and crying out loud with sexual pleasure so that all passers-by could hear us. When I spermed inside that alabaster white redhead I put my mouth right up to her ear and groaned lustfully. She threw her head back and clamped her feet around my ankles harder than any girl ever has and hunched her butt up off the mattress to get all of that baby batter. We stayed in that position for several seconds with me whispering to Ellie in her ear that her Bulgarian pussyhole felt so damn good to my dick! My first Bulgarian was literally a fuckin' success"

I was not able to concentrate at all. Thinking of your reports and almost laughing, then thinking about Ghadafi, Berlusconi, Mother Theresa, renewable energy, german sauerkraut, salmon paracite and Franz Beckenbauer does not keep you stiff for this work, and suddenly she turned around and told me with her lovely chech accent; today you are tired!

No, I was not in the right mood that day, I was thinking of everything but not sex. I gave her 60, she kissed me and walked away.

Why did I go to Artemis? Because I'm a junkie.

Rohan Cid

10-11-11, 18:40

SuppenHuhn

10-11-11, 21:00

JimmyVegas

10-11-11, 22:45

Hi guys,

Heading to germany for 2 weeks on wed. I hope this isint a strange request but it seems that every time I post about it I get no response. Am I the only guy in the world that like this? LOL.

Looking for fkk girls that have very large pussy lips. Inner labia.

Any suggestions would be great!

Jimmy. Also. Where is the fkk club called planet?

Charlie 123

10-12-11, 00:27

Hi.

Had a fantastic session with pretty German blond Jolene earlier tonight.

She is quite tall, slim with small breasts, streaked blond hair, a pretty angular face, fabulous smile and an extensive snake-like flower tattoo that wraps around her side and back and down one leg. She is 22 years old and hails from Dortmund.

I had a sensationsl GFE session with her. She is a wonderful kisser, responds very enthusuastically to DATY, gives a good (+) blowjob and is a fabulous fuck. She is friendly, sexy and gorgeous. Just a dream girl. I'd loved to take her home for the night, but regrettably after 90 wonderful minutes I had to let her go.

5 star GFE. A certain repeat for me. Highly recommended.

This was only her second day at Artemis. Previously she worked at PSR and Living Room, although perhaps under another name? She is around until Sunday and then will return on the 25th for a further 10 days. Hopefully she will become a regular at Artemis. We need more girls like Jolene on the permanent roster.

Charlie

Pharisaer

10-12-11, 06:48

Does Artemis have sleeping accommodations, you know, for when the ladies there have really worn me out?No sleeping accomodations for mongers. But you can try to have a nap (for an hour or two) in the basement wellness area, some mongers do so.

Angus Magee

10-12-11, 06:52

Well, even if a day trip is not possible, I kind of prefer rail travel to air travel. If it means having to spend a night in Berlin or even taking a night train, it should be worth it. Does Artemis have sleeping accommodations, you know, for when the ladies there have really worn me out?If by sleeping accommodation you mean rooms to rent where you can retire, then no. But the Hotel Ibis is very near by. If you mean places that you can lie down and catch some sleep until some prowling hooker comes by and grabs you dick to wake you up, demanding a trip to the near by kino-then most def. There are plenty of places to sleep.

AM

Norjan

10-12-11, 19:01

Thank you Norjan, Rocketboyo, Angus Magee, Daffon, London Traveller for your valuable comments. Will be visiting artemis in 20 days. Thank you.

JohnyHey, mr India.

Did you made it to the club?

Looking forward at your report.

Norjan

NyyssiTunnus

10-12-11, 21:58

Hi all.

Newbie to the forum, and most likely won't be active either as this was a one time chance to visit Artemis.

I had read Agnus Magee's blog for information on artemis, actually took the same route as with "Walking with Agnus" to Artemis.

Read some 10-20 last pages of this thread to accumulate information etc. So basic ground work had been prepared. Even had some girls' names in my mind.

So off I go to Artemis on last Sunday, late evening. Thought I was prepared, but I was not. As I got in to the club, I was hit with sensory overload! Too many beautiful naked (young) women registering on my retina. I wouldn't have expected, but I got nervous! I got myself a soda and headed downstairs to gym to recover. After couple of minutes and pulse back to normal, I started with less of a schock treatment by going to to pool area first, where there were not that many women visible. Then to the stairwell and after sometime to the bar.

After watching around, I started a discussion with a german man, who told he visits there quite regulary. He did mention that this was quiet night, only less than 50 women there. For me that looked like plenty! He mentioned some names, I think Fatima and others, he liked that they were not there today. Actually, there were no one that he was familiar with. Darn, I was totally on my own in making the selection.

I had made a plan that in order not to rush into stupid decisions, I would be there at least one hour before going with a girl. And I did adhere to that. Unfortunately, the most favorite girl which I had observed earlier was nowhere to be found when I would have been ready, I noticed a lady next to the bar desk and got her attention. We chatted a bit and decided to go up. She stood up and at that point I did notice that she was not 100% what I would have wanted (=there was silicone + just the gut feeling). Should have had the courage to back off, but being "gentleman" took better of me and up we went.

She was very kind and understanding as I let her know this is my 1st time in Artemis. She told how things go, what's included and what is extra, etc. So down to the business. Too bad I was still nervous and had cold hand though I was sweating otherwise. I'm sure cold hands do not feel nice when someone touches you.

As I said, she was nice person, but our encounter just didn't hit the right notes. She did some kissing, but still the whole act was too much of an. Act. Almost like going trough a script:

- Sucking.

- Kissing.

- Licking the tits (moaning included)

- Fucking.

- A notification that I should start to plan on coming soon.

- Cum.

Instead of love making, it was more masturbation to another person. I do recall people mentioning names, so I will too. Moderator, feel free to remove the name. She called herself Josephine and she was a German, less than 170cm, normal body, not in her 20s I'd say.

It was quite late but I figured I'd want better experience than this so I stayed around for moren than 1 hour to recover and I had found another fellow country man visiting Artemis, so I had nice time chatting with him. Finally decided it's time to select the second girl as it was past midnight and seemed like some of the girls had been ending their day. Ie. Less of them available. This time I figured I'd go around, look for the most pleasing one and select her without any hesitation and time waste which made me loose my optimal pick in the first time.

Did the full artemis tour, made up my mind on the girl and started locating her. Darn, she just went for dinner. I don't want to prevent a person having her dinner. I mean, who likes to be hungry? I get angry when I'm hungry. Didn't want to wait her to finish either. I mean, it would have most likely been like running after eating to her: Not nice. So I decided to go for someone else.

I spotted a young, slightly exotic looking girl with perfect petite body. I think her name was Coco or something close to that. She was half greek and half something else. Albanian with some roots from Persia. She had great smile and great white teeth. Small breasts in slim body. Dark, long hair.

Up we go and her first comment as I undedress is : oh-la-laa, what have we here. Yes, I consider myself a bit larger than average (I prefer Pasante Large condoms). She starts with BJ and is quite good. I tell her that I actally like fucking more than sucking, lets fuck. She hesitates as I'm too big for her. I tell her to get on top and she can take me in as carefully as she wants, calling the shots. She takes me in just a bit, but it just does not work out. She interrupts as it's too painful. The mood kind of dies and I go soft. Not that there was any great spiritual connection to start with, but it goes worse. Some discussion and I get her to suck me again. After sometime I get her to try once more mounting on me. Partial penetration and some up&down but I can see she is having hard time and that kills what ever wood I had managed to get. .

She tries to give me BJ, but after a while I tell her to stop. The mood is not right, I'm tired and unhappy, I will not cum for sure.

Again, I would have not called Coco a bad one. Personality was OK, but we didn't hit off emotionally and even less physically. Our bodies just did not match.

So this second round which should have fixed the disapointment of the 1st one was even worse experience than the 1st!

Ok, I know I'm somewhat big, even Josephine didn't take me 100% in, which kind of sucked, but at leas I still could call that as fucking.

I'm sure you can understand that I'm disapointed in using 200e for 1 less than perfect fuck and some BJing.

Maybe I just should have gone to the ladies: Ok, I like you, lets go upstairs. BTW I'm big, you can still back out if you are tiny.

Rocketboy0

10-13-11, 10:03

Ok, I know I'm somewhat big, even Josephine didn't take me 100% in, which kind of sucked, but at leas I still could call that as fucking. I'm sure you can understand that I'm disapointed in using 200e for 1 less than perfect fuck and some BJing.Maybe I just should have gone to the ladies: Ok, I like you, lets go upstairs. BTW I'm big, you can still back out if you are tiny.Nyyssi. Good sex is just not like going to a department store, where you buy something you like, and you more or less know what the experience of it will be and that's it. Between sexes, chemistry rules and it is simply unpredictable. All you can do is try to increase the odds. It will also likely get easier to judge and experience the holy grail GFE with more experience. Sounds also like you put yourself under a lot of pressure, on various levels. And really this is ultimately a commercial transaction between strangers (till you become a regular). You will likely be one of 5-10+ men a girl will see that day. You just can't expect too much. Settle for a few laughs, and some fun and a nice orgasm. Anything else is just icing on the cake and you cannot really predict it.

So for what it's worth, some thoughts. Unless you are a blue whale, this cock business is really not an issue. But you could stay away from the really petite providers to at least minimize chances of discomfort. Sunday nights are not the best: Wed-Sat much better and more choices. Go earlier. Night shift at full strength by 20:00, they've eaten, and they exhibit fresh "virgininess" vs completely understandable late night burnout. Not knowing your tastes, it is difficult to suggest really but if you read the Forum, some obvious winners stand out (a sort of spread of body types and ages would include, Marketa, Elena, Nina, Fatima, Luczia, Erika, Shelby, Jenna, amongst others). Take some time to really talk, at least 10-15 min. Be a little flirty, show you are interested but slowly, a little light touching, maybe even try a kiss toward the end. Listen to her-not just what you might say. See the reaction-and if your gut says go, go. If you feel something's not quite right, simply don't go. Talk (toward the end) about what you expect so at least you know if a girl won't kiss etc. In the room, maybe give her a massage for a few minutes - this is a real ice breaker, shows you give a hoot vs "ok I paid the money so baby just do me".

Just put less pressure on yourself, lower expectations, be open to surprises, and take your time. A few little steps can increase the odds but still, no guarantees, YMMV, that's life. But if you practice, and relax a bit, I bet you too can achieve as Bill Murray found caddying for the Dalai Lama, total consciousness, even in the punting holes of Artemis. The rules apply to all FKKs. You say it was a one time chance, but you know, the odds are, every time you quit, they pull you back in.

SuppenHuhn

10-13-11, 19:41

After watching around, I started a discussion with a german man, who told he visits there quite regulary. He did mention that this was quiet night, only less than 50women there. For me that looked like plenty! He mentioned some names, I think Fatima and others, he liked that they were not there today. Actually, there were no one that he was familiar with. Darn, I was totally on my own in making the selection.Hello,

That's a real shame that you not have much luck with the girls. Maybe you should have take the big boob girl Jenna. But I know you don't like silicone breasts.

Greetings "The german man"

NyyssiTunnus

10-14-11, 15:41

Nyyssi. Good sex is just not like going to a department store, where you buy something you like, and you more or less know what the experience of it will be and that's it. Between sexes, chemistry rules and it is simply unpredictable.Yeah, I totally agree. Originally I had this vision on how things would go. Ie. First I'll check women that I find physically attractive after which I engage them to a discussion etc. To lighten up and to make it easier to act as this was no business transaction. I mean the best experiences are those where the act is played out great (aka. GFE) The not so good ones are the ones that appear as strictly business (like mine did).

I don't know if the problem was that I spoke only english and they were not (in their) opinion good enough in english to have a discussion. Or was it that they were just counting me being a horny fellow. What I mean, that there was not a single women of the 5-10 that I spoke with (including "sharks") who didn't propose: "Lets go upstairs" within a minute or so. One just can't charm anyone in such a short time.

Perhaps it requires to be recognized as "regular" to have the ladies spend more time to discuss with you or to sit with you. Or perhaps I was just unlucky that night and had all the hasty ones coming to me.

[Ref: schedule]

Good points on when to go. I was unlucky to have serious constraints on my schedule and that night was my only change of visiting.

Take some time to really talk, at least 10-15 min. Be a little flirty, show you are interested but slowly, a little light touching, maybe even try a kiss toward the end. Listen to her-not just what you might say. See the reaction-and if your gut says go, go. If you feel something's not quite right, simply don't go. Talk (toward the end) about what you expect so at least you know if a girl won't kiss etc. In the room, maybe give her a massage for a few minutes - this is a real ice breaker, shows you give a hoot vs "ok I paid the money so baby just do me".Above sounds pretty much the plan I originally had. Just quoting it here to emphasize its meaning to other lurkers and beginners who read this when they are planning their visit.

So beginners (and even myself) , tattoo the above to your mind. In addition, one needs to have a way of countering the "Lets go upstairs" yet still keeping her interest up and not having her to leave.

Greetings to Suppenhuhn! No wonder you knew about ISG etc. You are a regular on this forum!

It was nice to talk with you and it did ease up my nervousness.

BTW. Why do they keep the bar so dark, it's difficult to evaluate the women there.

Angus Magee

10-14-11, 17:31

Originally I had this vision on how things would go.There is the problem right there. My best session always come from left field. Not that I do not have expectations and make plans. Just that they rarely pan out the way I imagine.

I also have to say that perhaps you over analyse the whole thing. It is what it is and generally it ain't romance that happens in these places. The best you can hope for is to find a girl with whom you have sympathy (in the French sense of sympatique) and take it from there. And despite how it may appear this is, in my experience, not as common as you might think. Dropping into a club the size of Artemis and thinking you will find your dream GFE in one evening is a bit unrealistic. It could happen, but probably won't. It is not so much a matter of being recognised as a regular as it is just meeting enough girls and if there is a spark, off to the room. Then you get to see how things really are. As often as not you get a nice session. Every once in a while, a GFE that meets whatever expectations you might have. Mostly it is, I think, a matter of numbers with a bit of experience mixed in.

In any case, thanks for the report and keep trying. Personally I would recommend if possible trying out a few other FKK else where in Germany. I really think that GFEs can be much easier to find in smaller, less business oriented clubs than is Artemis.

AM

Rocketboy0

10-15-11, 10:40

Yeah, I totally agree. Originally I had this vision on how things would go.It was nice to talk with you and it did ease up my nervousness.BTW. Why do they keep the bar so dark, it's difficult to evaluate the women there.NyyssiT. First, on the lighting bit, ah, I think the idea is both to make it seem more romantic / erotic and to conceal whatever might need it. I find this works well enough vs sodium stadium lamps. Second, in Artemis, language barriers and such are really not an issue.

I would humbly suggest you just need to relax more, think less (a tip of the hat to Angus who is both right on this, and quite good at it) , and get in touch with the reason (s) for whatever nervousness you feel. That is well worth pondering a bit. You don't need to confess here (God forbid) but just think about it.

One possible way to reduce what seems to be the pressure you put yourself under might be to consider chatting with a girl for as long as you both feel comfortable, but then not necessarily decide right then you HAVE to go up. You can let it be, put things on slower tempo, and come back to her later also and see if the click is still there. It is also a way to gauge her interests. Some girls will be put off by it, feeling you have wasted their time, so you should not abuse it (let her go if you're not sure after 10-15 min) , explain that you are interested but only just arrived, etc. You can do it respectfully and politely. But some girls will in fact understand and even be attracted by the slow burn. There are no rules. The deal is to reduce whatever pressure you feel as the point, you may recall, is to have fun. Slowing down may help.

And you need to know when to just fold the cards. While I am not happy to admit it, there have been a few rare nights where it just did not feel right at all at Artemis, no favorites, no newbees who got the mojo workin', and eventually I just left. 80 EUR down the toilet. It can happen. But I would rather do that than feel the pressure that I had to get laid, and risk even more frustration and funds frittered away knowing I succumbed to just a bad idea. As I have posted before, while the hours lurking around etc is relaxing and most def fun at Artemis, increasingly, I (for me, and my tastes) find the offerings and pure performance in private flats better. Segway to this:

I have one question. I assume Operation Artemis was not your first time doing this? Have you been to bordellos and private apartments and if so, what was your experience? It is of course a completely different business and behavior model-just curious how you may have felt there vs an FKK Club? If you were less nervous or found you made better choices, that says something. If you felt the same nerves and had the same dissatisfaction, that says something else. Sort of like a Dilbert strategy matrix.

PacificRim

10-15-11, 14:09

As I have posted before, while the hours lurking around etc is relaxing and most def fun at Artemis, increasingly, I (for me, and my tastes) find the offerings and pure performance in private flats better.

Have you been to bordellos and private apartments and if so, what was your experience? It is of course a completely different business and behavior model-just curious how you may have felt there vs an FKK Club? If you were less nervous or found you made better choices, that says something. If you felt the same nerves and had the same dissatisfaction, that says something else. Sort of like a Dilbert strategy matrix.All the responders have made excellent points. Many of them can be summed up by the maxim "Don't push the river, let it flow." Sports announcers in baseball and football (American kind) often praise a batter or quarterback for "taking what the pitcher or defense gives you." I think the same applies here. You can have a great time if all you get is a single to the opposite field or a ten yard gain on a bubble pass. They don't all have to be homeruns or touchdowns. And sometimes when you relax a bit your experience can turn into a game winner. Ok, enough sports metaphor crap.

I'm interested in Rocketboy's observation that he finds the offerings and performance better in private flats. Whereas I, on the other hand, often can't really get into the flow in the private flat (which is pretty much the only game in town where I come from). Unless it's someone you already know, it's hard to judge whether the chemistry will be there. With the visual stimulus and the public sexuality of an FKK I can often get past the initial nervousness that I feel with the pressure in the private flat. My ideal P4P scenario starts at a strip club with a girl dancing, teasing and rubbing herself on you but with the option of then moving things to a private room, or even going at it right there in public. The FKK is the closest to that scenario that I have found.

By the way, I loved the Godfather reference below."Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in." Realizing this is why I never announce any retirement from the hobby. I'll let death or incapacity determine that.

Angus Magee

10-15-11, 16:45

Indeed the universe works in mysterious ways. After Artemis' Birthday Bash, which was a success but hardly the sexual cornucopia one always hopes for at the Love Bahnhof, I thought it would be a while before I visited again. Especially as Charlie had contacted me with a proposal to give the lowly Caligula a spin on the strength of Felix' 9 session odyssey of a few weeks back. (See the Berlin thread)

Then last week there appeared in Angus' mail box (via my blog) an invite from a far off land. A monger I will refer to as MongerX (MongerX is familiar with the ISG but as far as I know does not have a ISG I'd) wrote to me of his up coming Berlin visit and invited me to diner. Never one to turn down a visiting fellow monger (nor a nice diner out) I accepted and we met this past Tuesday at a local eatery. MX and I hit it off immediately as friends. Our diner conversation was spirited and interesting I ended the evening receiving and invite to Artemis for the next evening, Wednesday, the evening before, leading into my birthday morning. A very welcome invite for me made more so by MX's promise that I would be able to sample at long last the sexual performance enhancer, cialis, which I had yet to try.

Up until this past Wednesday my one and only experience with performance enhancers had been during my first visit to Thailand in the autumn of 2003. A friend had given me 4 tablets of viagra which I then cut in half. So I used it 8 times in total. I found viagra to be a very effective boner pill. However, I also found the side effects of a splitting headache and a perceived reduction of sensitivity in the penis to be more than a little off putting. When I ran out of my supply I just never felt the need to find any more. After all, I was a recreational user and aside from the occasional spectacular hydraulic failure, I have not much trouble attaining and keeping an erection.

But FKK mongering does test the male hydraulic system in a mid century specimen. In fact were I designing a situation the scuttle the horny plans of a 50 something monger, the half hour get up and go session we are all so familiar with would be high on my list of methods. Especially so in my current financial situation where I do not want to make a mistake, thus amping up the self created pressure to 'perform'. In light of all this MX's small stash of cialis, and his willingness to set me up with a tab was most welcomed and made the evening even more of an adventure on the eve before turning 53.

Wednesday evening MX and I met in the later afternoon in front of the Zoo Bahnhof. After a short walk to the Zwiebelfisch on Savigny Platz for a beer, we found our selves walking the short distance from Westkreuz to Artemis as the sun lay low in the sky over our shoulders. MX paid our entry fees, loaded both our cash lockers and soon we were wandering around the facilities taking the lay of the land and considering options.

For myself I can say that the line up looked good. I did not see that many familiar faces but then this evening I was ready to branch out and try, for once, the new rather than the tried and true. The cialis that was by this time coursing through my veins, coupled with a well stocked cash locker made me, theoretically at least, more adventurous than usual. My tendency towards regular ladies is mostly fuelled by the belief that if I know the provider, and know that she has a certain level of skill and professional pride, if things go south I also know that I am in the company of a hooker who cares a little about my satisfaction. In short she will put in a bit of effort to make sure things happen.

Tonight I felt like a free agent. But old habits die hard. When I saw the very lovely Nina my conviction to try all new tonight did falter some. Indeed when I found myself in the main bar ordering a drink and suddenly there was Nina, I fell for the familiar and was ready to head off for my first session there and then. Fate, in the form of another unknown punter intervened. Before my eyes, in advance of my propositioning the young lovely, a presumably more regular customer snatched her up with certainty and I was left alone at the bar. Thank the Gods that there were 50 some other scantily clad ladies with which I could console myself this evening.

As I commiserated with MX at the bar about losing Nina the lovely Czech dynamo Shiva approached. Shiva is not uncharted territory. I have had a couple of good sessions with her (of particular mention was my kino session of two years back) but not in a long, long time. Indeed because of Old Angus' sexual prowess (or at least this is what I like to believe) Shiva is always begging me for another go round in the rooms. ;)

So off we went to the room. As I remembered Shiva is a sexual dynamo and a very pleasing session. While not really for me a GFE, Shiva is enthusiastic, skilled and cares that her customers enjoy their time with her. I find her to be a very down to earth and genuine woman who enjoys the work. I would solidly recommend her to any one wanting a good session with PSE overtones. Plus I think you will always be guaranteed a few laughs with this young lady. She has a lusty sense of humour that I appreciate to the fullest.

And the cialis? It worked like a charm. One big difference I noticed from my earlier viagra experience is that the penis seems to retain its' sensitivity. Thus one still has to be respectful of one's member. That is, with viagra I felt that I could take a cheese grater to my privates and my erection would remain, though I did not test this theory. With cialis it seemed that I could still lose the hard on if the lady is too rough. But it would quickly return if handling corrections are made.

The next couple of hours I spent doing what one does at Artemis between sessions. Eating, sauna, chatting etc. Finally I found myself ready for more and as always seems to happen along came another candidate, in the form of Tracy. Tracy claims German / Brazilian mixd heritage. She is a believable early'20s, an athletic figure (spectacular butt) and an easy conversationalist. She waited a good long while until hinting at a room visit for us. Truthfully I almost balked because of some of our later conversation pertaining to her experience in the business. But as Euro100 notes in his recent Shark Club report, sometime one has to ignore the tiny red flags that appear. I was glad I did. Again, no GFE here for me. Yet the next half hour did hit the spot.

After some light kissing (no DFK for me here) I was let loose on her pussy with some serious side trips between the cheeks. Then I lay back and let Tracy do the work of providing a superior BJ finishing with a cim, something I had not allowed myself to have for sometime. Keeping things to the half hour again I was well satisfied with the choice and can fully vouch for this young lady's oral skills. Slow, well timed and with a spectacular finish. Again, the cialis worked exactly as it should.

Back on the floor I wanted a good rest before anything more was to happen. I did run into Nebula2010 and had a long talk about Artemis and mongering in general. Nebula gave me a high quality cigar to smoke as my birthday approached and perhaps unbeknownst to him a clue as to who would be my third and final session of the night.

I had had my eye on this young lady since I spotted her earlier in the evening. I had also spotted Nebula cuddling a bit with her. While I did not directly ask about her, it was hard not to ignore the fact that Nebula had spent some time with her. And for me this is the ultimate recommendation, when a monger repeats with a girl. So after MX had recharged my cash locker for a possible hour session, and I noticed the young lassie in question heading for the bar. I was off in hot pursuit determined not to lose out on this one.

We met at the far side of the bar and after some stilled get to know 'ya' talk off we went to the room. Shennon is in the lower send of her twenties, comes from Bulgaria and has a small teeny body I find hard to resist. She is also (at least with me) somewhat shy and I had the feeling, not that experienced. I quickly decided to do the full hour and from then on had no regrets, spending a thoroughly enjoyable hour in her company. As mentioned I found her a little under experienced but she was also gentle with me, cuddly and had enough skill to see that everything worked.

More or less.

The one slight snafu we hit illustrated to me that the effects cialis can indeed be over ridden by the all powerful mind of the neurotic monger. Towards the end of the session as I was fucking in a spectacular doggy, it occurred to me that this being my third session, finishing might be a problem. Almost immediately I lost my erection and despite the young ladies best efforts it was not coming back.

What the fuck?

Taking pity on her, while engaging in my pervy voyeuristic tendencies I asked that she give a masturbation show while I finished myself by hand. As I finished up with a less that capable erection and came all over my belly, my penis responded by becoming rock solid and staying that way for a full 5 minutes after the fireworks were over. As I say, what the fuck?

This little ending in no way took away from the session and in fact gave me further insight and respect for this drug. In short, I liked it and were I to recommend a performance enhancer to anyone, so far, cialis would be it. After this I spent some more time just hanging out and chatting with Shennon and again, as I say, I can fully understand what Nebula sees in her. She is a real sweet heart and I can only hope that over the next few months she does not become hardened as she gains experience in the business.

Coming down the stairs MX was waiting and claimed (though I can not be sure) that I was up their for a good long while more than the hour. In any case I paid the young lady €120, kissed her good bye and floated off in the locker rooms to change and meet MX at the front desk. The taxi ride home was fast and way better than my usual late night bus experience. We parted ways with a handshake and a promise to keep in touch through email and a possible meeting this coming January when MX will likely be coming through Berlin again.

As I stated at the beginning of this report-the universe does indeed work in mysterious ways. Much much gratitude to MX for his generosity, not just with his cash, but also with his spirit. I ask you, what better way is there to spend the first hours of your 53 spin around the sun than in the arms of a few of Artemis' finest? If there is a better way I am certainly willing to find it out next year.

Thanks for reading.

AM