FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Angus Magee]

- Which club do you recommend me to visit Thursday evening, in order to sample one girl? (except Artemis that is)I would say why not an apartment? As you say that you will be available in the evening, and as it is a damn fine bordello, I would say Mon Rouge would be my choice.


- In Artemis, do you remove all clothes, or do you still have underwear under your bathrobe? Sounds silly I know, but I just wondered?You wear nothing under the robe, unless you want to then you could wear your underwear. I mean there is no inspector (despite this being Germany) to make sure you follow "ze rulz".


- What about other items like watch or cell phones, do you carry them with you (I guess there are pockets in the bathrobe)?You do have two lockers. You can fit watch, wallet and cell phone in the small very secure cash locker out front. The rest can go in your clothes locker. Truth be told the clothes locker is also pretty damn secure. And the robes do have pockets to carry small items. Be aware that cell phones are not allowed out on the floor, only in the locker room and foyer. Also if you keep anything in the pockets of your robe-when you take it off to sauna remember that robes can and do disappear while you are in the sauna. Leave nothing of value in the pockets.


- What are your best advice for a newbie to FKK in Germany?Remember to wash your dick, don't go with the first girl who approaches and be polite to the girls.

And read this thread thoroughly and also my blog. http://www.angusmagee.com/

AM

[Pharisaer]

Hi Guys,

I'll soon be doing my first visit to Artemis, while visiting Berlin in the beginning of November. I've been a regular visitor to "nightclubs" in Prague and know this citys nightlife as my backpocket. However I've only been to Berlin once and I did not visit any clubs as it was strictly worktrip. It is also a worktrip this time, but I'll visit Berlin from Thursday. Sunday. That means that I've planned to visit Artemis Friday and Saturday evening / night. Why not Thursday? Well it is more of obvious reasons, work starts early Friday and I would like to be not like a zombie!

I have some questions to you guys:

- Which club do you recommend me to visit Thursday evening, in order to sample one girl? (except Artemis that is)

- In Artemis, do you remove all clothes, or do you still have underwear under your bathrobe? Sounds silly I know, but I just wondered?

- What about other items like watch or cell phones, do you carry them with you (I guess there are pockets in the bathrobe)?

- What are your best advice for a newbie to FKK in Germany?

Thanks in advance for all replies!Thursday? I suggest KD or La Folie. One of my favourite clubs is L'amour. It depends.

Removing all clothes? Question isn't silly. Most mongers remove all clothes. Some others, but only a few, do not and wear underwear beneath their bathrobe. It's your choice.

Cellphone, valuables? Leave your cellphone in Artemis in your locker (mute it!) or at home, in your car etc. Like other big FFK's Artemis does not tolerate cellphones.

My best advice? Ummm. Be prepared for a whole bunch of naked bunnies and a serious crowd during Friday and Saturday night. Be relaxed. Maybe it's a good idea reading the discussion about the post of finnish guy NyyssiTunnus.

[Rocketboy0]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1207226]I would say why not an apartment? As you say that you will be available in the evening, and as it is a damn fine bordello, I would say Mon Rouge would be my choice.
[ / QUOTE]

Sucker 17 - On this, it is a bit more complicated. You really need to look on the interweb, see which girls strike your fancy, and then CALL ahead (most speak English) to see if they are actually there, and when they are available, as some may be booked but have a free hour here and there. You don't need to book it as you still want to see if there is a click between you and photos, while helpful, are just photos. Apartment staffing is obviously smaller, hot girls in demand, their schedules can vary and the last thing you want to do is run all over Berlin for nothing. Just increase your odds so you know some object of desire is where, when.

I would also suggest you read the Berlin thread (nu. 668) and see Angus' blog. Mon Rouge is nice but it is a little smaller than others, and a bit more expensive. Kamilla la Dee, Liberty, Prestige, Royal, even Tiffany / Ritter have wide selections, a few real stunners, and decent prices. Van Kampen also slightly more expensive (maybe 10-20 Eur per session more) but some great girls. Prestige and van Kampen are on the main S-Bahn ring (and KD not so far off) that also stops near Artemis so that's a convenient backup. KD and Ritter post their schedules, Liberty has it by girl on her page. Again all these are not 100% accurate, it is a help, and I wish others would do this, but you still need to call ahead. The great advantage of Artemis is what you see is what you get, you can wait around comfortably. Apartment scene is different but well worth it as the women can be really great. Most apartments have cafes nearby so if necessary, waiting around is doable.

The EUR 6. 10 Berlin day pass good on all busses and trains and a very good option, and the trip planner bvg.de map has an English section. Taxis are cheap but you will spend probably at least 5 Eur p trip. KD, van Kampen and Prestige are fairly close together. You just need to do your homework and call say after 6pm on the evening in question to see who is actually where, when. Will save you a lot of time lost and reduce chances of frustration.

[Nille Copenhagen]

NyyssiTunnus,

My advise, if you want to avoid problem with your dick size with the girls,

Show them your dick and ask her if she can take it or not, go to the Kino and have some pre-session to relax and get into the mood for you and her. Some good DATY would warm her up.

I often discuss the dick sizes with the girls and to be honest, girls often don't prefer too big dicks, it 's not like in the porn movies.

Bottom line:

The WGs perfer small dicks that come fast, that means less pain and less work for them.

[Norjan]

Does anybody know what german forum is the best in discussing Artemis?

Norjan

[Nukrimo]

It had been nigh on 2 years since I last entered the hallowed halls. The Fates had previously sent both volcanoes and blizzards to stop me, but this time they only managed a delayed flight. I laughed at their vain attempts to foil my plans and bravely strode once more unto the breach:

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;

For he to-day that sheds his fluids with me.

Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,

This day shall gentle his condition;

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed.

Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,

And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks.

That fucked with us upon Saint Crispin's day." (*)

In my absence, things had changed, most noticeable I found the new tendency of the ladies to gently ask if their company was desired. If declined most would politely accept the answer, and wish me a pleasant evening in Artemis. It came from too many, and too similarly, not to be some sort of general policy, and I must say I approve wholeheartedly.

Another improvement. For me. Was the marked increase in the number of petite brunettes wandering around. For such is the predilection of yours truly that there is nothing more pleasing to the eye, mouth, or indeed any sensory organ, than womanhood cast in such a compact, dark-haired form. In short, I was in heaven, and over the course of a very long Saturday, I thoroughly enjoyed a wide sample of these gorgeous creatures. I will, however, forego a detailed description of the encounters, as they are no doubt much the same as most of those that occur there. Instead, let me write something about the more notable of the new acquaintances I made:

Lenny (or Leni?) from Germany, petite with long straight black hair and an excellent taste in dry humor expressed in very good English. I simply had the most fun time with her that I have ever had in Artemis.

Tracy from Germany. Wavy brown hair and nice bouncy breasts that catches the eye perfectly when she walks by. A good, sexy time was had.

Marcia from Romania. Petite, beautiful, with her black hair in a sexy ponytail. Fun and great sex.

There were others, but my poor brain had too little blood to retain their names. Still, the above are definitely people I would love to spend more time with. Now all that remains is to hope that it shall be more like two months than two years before I am able to return.

(*) Poetic license, since the actual date was October 15, not 25.

[The Limey]

. She hesitates as I'm too big for her. I tell her to get on top and she can take me in as carefully as she wants, calling the shots. She takes me in just a bit, but it just does not work out.Nyssi, you deserved better than what you got from Artemis. I'm afraid what happened is that the girls realized you were a newbie and that you wouldn't complain if they gave you mediocre performances. So that's what happened. As for dick size, that's really not a problem for women. I mean, that is a canal out of which a whole baby can emerge. No, what happened is that they sensed this was an insecurity on your part, and honed in on it. You spent €200 and they got you to blame yourself for their poor showing.

I had a great time the other day at Artemis with a Brazilian-French girl (what a combo!) , but I do tend to pick the new faces and avoid the hardened pros. When you're new to the club, unfortunately you don't have the same advantage. This is a problem that management should address but won't.

[Pharisaer]

Lenny (or Leni?) from Germany, petite with long straight black hair and an excellent taste in dry humor expressed in very good English.Excellent american English indeed. East Coast. AFAIR she told me she was born and / or lived there.

[Nooky Ninja]

but .I do tend to pick the new faces and avoid the hardened pros. When you're new to the club, unfortunately you don't have the same advantage. This is a problem that management should address but won't.Right.

So Limey lad, for those of us not so enlightened,

1. What exactly is this "problem", again?

2. How should management address it? And

3. Why won't they?

[Free Dude]

Come on, this is BS. The fact that women have babies (under extreme pains) does not mean that size is never an issue. I'm not particularly big (I think) but have had a few girls who in the room said it wouldn't work. Not scamming me, but just offering to leave the room without charge. Then I've had a few girls that I stopped with myself, because I saw in their faces it wasn't comfortable. These girls were usually pleasantly surprised and often tried to make up for it by giving a but extra for the other things we did. This probably all has to do with my preference for petite girls, but that is neither here nor there. Not every girl can accomodate all sizes.

[The Limey]

Right.

So Limey lad, for those of us not so enlightenedIf you're going to use sockpuppets, you could at least try to vary the style a bit and not repeat telltale phrases like "Limey lad".

I mean, people might think you're not even trying.

[SuppenHuhn]

Does anybody know what german forum is the best in discussing Artemis?

NorjanHttp://wwww.verkehrsberichte.com

[Angus Magee]

Got to agree here. While in theory vaginas are very accommodating, this presupposes that the lady has both the conscious will to relax and perfect conditions to do so. In the typical bordello encounter there are all sorts of reasons a woman may not be able to relax enough to make for easy entry of the larger penis.

But I also have to say that all this "my dick is too big for the ladies" talk makes me slightly suspicious that the posters are merely engaging in 21st century male primate display rituals. I. E. Mine is the bigest in the tribe.

To this I say-take a photo and post it to 4Chan where some one might actually be interested. Here we could concentrate on reviewing the ladies, not the girth of our own "members".

A

[EdwardMaya]

Hi,

Been reading this forum for 2-3 weeks now, and I have a simple question and I wonder which FKK is best in Germany (pros / cons)? I've only been to Artemis once and it was the best day of my life, period!

I've heard about Palace, Oase, World etc. But can't think of anything better than Artemis.

Which do you recommend and why?

[Angus Magee]

Hi,

Been reading this forum for 2-3 weeks now, and I have a simple question and I wonder which FKK is best in Germany (pros / cons)? I've only been to Artemis once and it was the best day of my life, period!

I've heard about Palace, Oase, World etc. But can't think of anything better than Artemis.

Which do you recommend and why?I would post this in the FKK general questions thread as you are asking people to discuss (possible) FKK other than Artemis. Nice to keep the thread relevant to its' stated subject.

But as you have asked-impossible to say really. A least for me. Different FKK suit different people and different moods. There was a discussion once and a poll taken at one point by Charlie 123. He asked on several different criteria which FKK was the best. He then correlated the results and Artemis was the over all winner unless I am mistaken. If I can find the post I will put a link to it in the appropriate thread.

AM

edit As Artemis was the winner I will post the link here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1096679&viewfull=1#post1096679

However please do note that the sampling was very small so this is not exactly the definitive answer to your question. Plus clubs change, line ups come and go and different nights bring different crowds which can alter the club's mood drastically. Let's face it, you really have to visit as many as you can possible afford on as many different nights as you can manage. If anyone cares to sponsor the definitive survey I will work doggedly until I come up with an answer to this very important question ;)

[Sucker17]

Thanks for your replies to my post. I certainly have read thoroughly your blog Angus! I guess that I should be prepared for one hell of an experience, like the first time I stepped into K5 in Prague, but that's another nice story.

I'll be sure to give you a field report from my visit as a sign of gratitude!

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi,

Been reading this forum for 2-3 weeks now, and I have a simple question and I wonder which FKK is best in Germany (pros / cons)? I've only been to Artemis once and it was the best day of my life, period!

I've heard about Palace, Oase, World etc. But can't think of anything better than Artemis.

Which do you recommend and why?Well, the best FFK club, depends on what you are looking for, wellness, outdoor facilities, service, price and extra, location, # of girls, looks ect.

I like Artemis which has all-in-1 package and it's convenient if I visit Berlin,

But I prefer a combo of Palace+Oase+World or Villa Vertigo+Goldentime+Samya (NRW)

I'm just getting bored of staying in 1 club.

In the end it's also about which girls that gave you the most memorable experiences and not so much about the clubs.

My advise: Try out the other clubs as well.

[Angus Magee]

outdoor facilities Good point. If outdoor facilities are important to you then Artemis pretty much sucks ass. The best they have to offer is the much under utilised roof top patio which, unless there is a foam party happening, is all but empty. That and hanging out under the dripping air-con exhaust next to a big fence with regional express trains chugging by. Unless the much talked about out door facility materialises next year, this is it.

Of course out door facilities are pretty much a dead issue much of the year in Germany.

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Of course out door facilities are pretty much a dead issue much of the year in Germany.True! But on a hot a Summerday it's priceless to swim and play with naked girls in the pool of Oase.

I've not seen any girls using the pool at Artemis.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Thanks for your replies to my post. I certainly have read thoroughly your blog Angus! I guess that I should be prepared for one hell of an experience, like the first time I stepped into K5 in Prague, but that's another nice story.

I'll be sure to give you a field report from my visit as a sign of gratitude!K5 is nothing compare to Artemis, Artemis 1000 times better. So be very prepare and bring your heart medicin. Just in case, LOL.

You'll see lot's of naked girls, you can fuck the girls publicly in the Kinos or in theory also in the main lounge.

[Norjan]

Http://wwww.verkehrsberichte.comThanks. Tried it but it was to difficult to register.

Norjan

[Blue Swede]

Good point. If outdoor facilities are important to you then Artemis pretty much sucks ass. The best they have to offer is the much under utilised roof top patio which, unless there is a foam party happening, is all but empty. That and hanging out under the dripping air-con exhaust next to a big fence with regional express trains chugging by. Unless the much talked about out door facility materialises next year, this is it.

Of course out door facilities are pretty much a dead issue much of the year in Germany.

AMIf the planned outdoor facilities become reality, then can Artemis rise on the "list!". The plan is posted at the stairs right at the reception, at least it was in September.

It looks very promising, but still, it is in the middle of a big city, that is hard to hide.

Blue

[SuppenHuhn]

Thanks. Tried it but it was to difficult to register.

NorjanYou musst do an adult check, that's the point. Than its easy.

Here the right link:

http://www.verkehrsberichte.com

[Pharisaer]

If the planned outdoor facilities become reality, then can Artemis rise on the "list!".I don't think so. Remember: regional expresses will not be cancelled during an Artemis' outdoor season. The nearby freeway will not be closed. It will be a very, very noisy facility. It will be more noisy than it is on top of Artemis roof. I love this place. IMHO building the outdoor as to be seen on the plans is waisting money. I would suggest, for instance. An indoor patio.

[Bizzie]

Was in Artemis this past Saturday and Monday.

My first visit so here is a bit of a breakdown for the newbies:

Directions: Who cares. Take a taxi (its very close ot the convention center, ICC).

Entry: 80 Euro.

Ground floor:Reception, Lockers, showers. Pay your entry fee and get your robe and locker key. Go to locker and shower / change.

The main Bar / lounge here is full of smoke and has plenty of sofas. There is food in the back (which I did not try). And the kino in the back / left is showing porno on the big screen.

Plenty of naked girls trying to grab your dick.

Straight fuck / BBBJ is 60 euro. CIM is 50 and anal is 100 extra.

Lower level: A cicular stairway takes you down to the wellness area. Swimming pool, sauna, jacuzzi, hamam, Massage, and bar. Pretty nice. Few girls here, but they make the rounds to the lower level every few minutes.

Upper level: I only saw the rooms for fucking. You make the deal in the lounge and take the girl upstairs.

Great facility.

The worst part is that its a smiking facility, eps where the girls hang out.

[Nebula2001]

It was a Wednesday evening and my feet got me to the club even though I was too tired and planning to delay my weekly Artemis visit till Friday. It would be safe to say that my body is in on the conspiracy with the Artemis management to keep pulling me back in.

Again, a few small changes in girls' team from last week. Met a girl who usually worked in Palace and was test driving Artemis for a week. And then some other girls. In the end I had to swallow a sleeping pill right after a session to make my body obey my will and finally leave the club *before* the closing time for a change. On top of everything, just as I put my clothes on and was leaving, got sucked into an on foot snuggling session with two lovely ladies for 15 minutes or so by the outer lockers at 3am. (Don't ask. Long and silly story.)

What actually useful information I could contribute to the little Encyclopédie of ours in my present sleep deprived state? Well, there seems to be a definite increase in monger population from last week. Even though it was a week day, it got quite crowded by 10 pm and it felt like a Saturday night by midnight. We even had our usual overly drunk men so out of control that police had to come in. (As a side note, I have to congratulate the Berlin police for being so professional without turning to intimidation to prove their authority at every opportunity. Quite a breath of fresh air compared to most countries' police forces.)

[Aurora Boreali]

Hi!

I'm planning on taking a trip to Berlin this winter. Will definitely try out Artemis as my first FKK experience. Do the girls let you CIF? I see some of them do CIM. Only as a finish to a BBBJ?

I see on the FKK Dolce Vita site that the girls list their services. Many of them allows CIM / CIF.

[Pharisaer]

Well, there seems to be a definite increase in monger population from last week.Of course. One reason: the fall holiday season in Berlin and Brandenburg State has finished last Friday.

[Pharisaer]

Do the girls let you CIF? I see some of them do CIM. Only as a finish to a BBBJ?Just ask her before you enter the stairway to heaven with her. Most girls do CIM. Some of them allow CIF. Both not necessary as a finish of a BBBJ, ask her before. Extra payment needed.

[Angus Magee]

Hi!

I'm planning on taking a trip to Berlin this winter. Will definitely try out Artemis as my first FKK experience. Do the girls let you CIF? I see some of them do CIM. Only as a finish to a BBBJ?

I see on the FKK Dolce Vita site that the girls list their services. Many of them allows CIM / CIF.While you may find this it will, I think be difficult to negotiate. While CIM may seem distasteful it has the advantage of being contained. For €50 most girls will take cum in their mouth and spit it out into the near by paper towel. A COF (CIF-I assume you mean Cum In Face?) is way more uncontrolled and can end up in the hair, in the eyes, etc. This the girl tend to want to avoid as it will mean more down time doing make up and washing the jizz out of the hair.

I am not saying it is impossible but I do think it will mean finding a girl who actually likes this and spending some cash on her. That is, I doubt you will find a girl, pay for the half hour and tack on a finishing facial for €50. It is simply not worth the effort for her. In my opinion things like facials are better accomplished in an apartment bordello where it is less expensive (probably €20 or €30) and the girls are more ready to take a bit of down time between customers.

AM

[Pharisaer]

I am not saying it is impossible but I do think it will mean finding a girl who actually likes this and spending some cash on her.The only girl I know in A who offers CIF is Rosali. She offers it to me everytime I fuck her.


In my opinion things like facials are better accomplished in an apartment bordello where it is less expensive (probably €20 or €30) and the girls are more ready to take a bit of down time between customers.Agree.

[Norjan]

Is there some special arrangement on halloween?

A good or bad day to visit? (I mean maybe a lot of girls stay home to celebrate with friends.)

Anybody who have been to Artemis previous years on halloween who can tell?

Norjan

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi!

I'm planning on taking a trip to Berlin this winter. Will definitely try out Artemis as my first FKK experience. Do the girls let you CIF? I see some of them do CIM. Only as a finish to a BBBJ?A tip from me:

If you like CoF agree it with the girls first and do it just before closing time, then she doesn't need to fix her make up and hair-do.

But on the other hand if you fuck the whole night and waiting for the closing hour, you might not have much left to shoot with.

[Angus Magee]

Is there some special arrangement on halloween?

A good or bad day to visit? (I mean maybe a lot of girls stay home to celebrate with friends.)

Anybody who have been to Artemis previous years on halloween who can tell?

NorjanAside from the the fact that it is a Monday (not the busiest day) I think it will be pretty much business as usual. I guess some girls might get a bit dressed up but I doubt any would stay home. Halloween is not really a German holiday. I am told that it is only in the past few year that it was celebrated at all.

Of course there is always the possibility of the parking lot gypsies and bridge trolls being a wee bit more active on this night. It is the haunting time of year after all when the veil between the realms is at its' thinnest. ;)

AM

[Kimino]

A friend told me he collected cash at Artemis at th ecash dispenser and that the name Artemis showed up in Hi bank report (or what it's called in english).

This might be of interest to someone.

I'll be there on Wednesday (we decided this without any planning).

There shouldn't be any Messe on that date. Anything particular happening in Berlin that might cause a crowd at Artemis?

If any of you guys are a around and want to meet, I'll probably be there late afternoon onwards.

I'd like to visit Royal, VK or maybe Odette if I manage to book a girl I know there.

Best.

Kimino

[Angus Magee]

A friend told me he collected cash at Artemis at th ecash dispenser and that the name Artemis showed up in Hi bank report (or what it's called in english).

This might be of interest to someone.Just as a matter of interest-if you walk to Hallensee (about 10 min. Walk) SBahn station there are at least two banks with ATMs. As well as not showing up as Artemis I believe the rate you get will be better and any service charge less.

AM

[Kimino]

Just as a matter of interest-if you walk to Hallensee (about 10 min. Walk) SBahn station there are at least two banks with ATMs. As well as not showing up as Artemis I believe the rate you get will be better and any service charge less.

AMYeah but what about the gipsies lurking in the dark?

[Angus Magee]

Yeah but what about the gipsies lurking in the dark?True, there are the gypsies to consider. But at least if you get into trouble you can duck into Salon Prestige (Ringbahnstr. 1) for a quicky and to spend all the cash you just saved by walking to Hallensee.

AM

[Lurkmeistern]

Hello,

I'm a newbie that considers visiting Artemis in Berlin either 18-20 November or 2-4 December.

There is a two pretty "manly" activities at the Messe starting 18th Nov (Boat and Fun, Minerals) and nothing during the start of December.

Is there any advantage to visit while the Messe is active? Would there be more girls that week, making it smart to arrive on 17th?

The other question is about the girls. There are two things I'd like to try: Some quality GFE and a threesome with two girls who enjoy it.

Could you give some recommendations on perky GFE experts or pairs that make for a good threesome? .

Related to the above, I'd also like to know the name of any girls that would never start bargaining during the act (would prefer to get that sorted before the start).

[The Limey]

If a girl wants to visit Artemis as a customer and go Sapphic, can she? I always get embarrassed when I am asked this because I haven't a clue.

[Angus Magee]

If a girl wants to visit Artemis as a customer and go Sapphic, can she? I always get embarrassed when I am asked this because I haven't a clue.At other FKK this can happen. At Artemis I asked someone high up in management and received and astonished "no" as if it was unthinkable that this would even be considered. My feeling is that it could happen but would take some real negotiation.

AM

[The Limey]

The goddess Artemis was never seen in the company of a man, and was generally thought to be either a lesbian or a virgin. She would be mortified.

[Pharisaer]

There is a two pretty "manly" activities at the Messe starting 18th Nov (Boat and Fun, Minerals) and nothing during the start of December.Both fairs shouldn't have any noticeable influence on the business in A.


Could you give some recommendations . pairs that make for a good threesome?Maybe you should try a threesome with Fatima, a tall darkhaired girl from Slovakia, and Michelle, a tall girl from Columbia with curly blode hairs and very red lips.

[Angus Magee]

Artemis has a new web site design. Some what flashier but really not that different if you ask me.

http://test.fkk-artemis.de/page/

AM

[Diet Coke]

Artemis has a new web site design. Some what flashier but really not that different if you ask me.

http://test.fkk-artemis.de/page/



AM
From website:

Pensioners and taxi drivers have to pay Sundays and Mondays only 40 EUR. Please show your old-age-pension passport or Taxi-license.

I remember on your blog you did not have the answer, but do you know now?

Does the discount for pensioners include customers from other countries, such as US with Medicare cards?

[Hessen Bub]

Does the discount for pensioners include customers from other countries, such as US with Medicare cards?Try to send them an e-mail. If you are above 60 or 65 years and you do have some kind of official document showing that you are retired. Should word.

HB

[Pharisaer]

Does the discount for pensioners include customers from other countries, such as US with Medicare cards?Don't know exactly, but read:

Daffons Report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1196577&viewfull=1#post1196577)

His father (84) payed the reduced pensioneers entrance fee (40 Euro) only. IMHO Daffon and his father aren't native Germans.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Try to send them an e-mail. If you are above 60 or 65 years and you do have some kind of official document showing that you are retired. Should word.

HBHow about pensioners with taxi license from Bangladesh? That should grant free entrance.

[Angus Magee]

From website:

Pensioners and taxi drivers have to pay Sundays and Mondays only 40 EUR. Please show your old-age-pension passport or Taxi-license.

I remember on your blog you did not have the answer, but do you know now?

Does the discount for pensioners include customers from other countries, such as US with Medicare cards?I wonder if that means that you get in free if you are a really old taxi driver?

Seriously, as HB suggests write an email or even call the front desk. I can not imagine that you are honestly retired but come from the US (or else where over seas) that they would refuse you the special entry fee. And if the extra €40 is really such an issue perhaps you as pensioner might consider less rich pastures.

AM

[Rocketboy0]

IMHO, it is no accident that the sociological discounts are offered Sunday and Monday nights. These are noticeably slower days and a lot of the A-Team is chilling, resting, recovering, and in some cases healing up from the Fri-Sat night follies.

As retirees must get the most bang for the buck, and as the biological clock is ticking, what you may save in coin, you will lose out on in terms of a better line up. Penny wise, poon foolish. Spend it, and revel in your golden years.

Or as Angus (the Dude of Berlin) says, nibble in other pastures. As in the private flats and bordellinos, where yours truly thinks there are some real wonders. There, you would in general spend 120 EUR for a good mix of thrills and chills for 40min, vs the 140 at Artemis for 30 min-but forgo the lurking around, the pool & sauna, the difficult to quantify much less explain intellectual stimulation, a couple of meals and non alcho drinks all day and night.

[Galazy]

I hope to hit the Artemis on Saturday (several factors permitting) and I've a question about the price of an hour long session with anal. So, an hour session where we have sex twice. Anal both times. Is the total price €220 (€120 for an hour plus €100 extra for anal) or €320 (€120 for an hour plus €200 extra for 2 anal sessions)?

Thank you.

[Angus Magee]

I hope to hit the Artemis on Saturday (several factors permitting) and I've a question about the price of an hour long session with anal. So, an hour session where we have sex twice. Anal both times. Is the total price €220 (€120 for an hour plus €100 extra for anal) or €320 (€120 for an hour plus €200 extra for 2 anal sessions)?

Thank you.I think this might depend a bit on the girl, your manner with her and maybe a few other factors. It should cost 2 times €60 plus the extra €100. But you will have to make sure before you hit the sheets as I can also see (as it is anal we are talking about) the girl balking at being expected to do it twice in an hour. Us guys do not realise I think that taking it up the bum is not as easy as it may look.

AM

[AlanGiven]

I think this might depend a bit on the girl, your manner with her and maybe a few other factors. It should cost 2 times €60 plus the extra €100. But you will have to make sure before you hit the sheets as I can also see (as it is anal we are talking about) the girl balking at being expected to do it twice in an hour. Us guys do not realise I think that taking it up the bum is not as easy as it may look.

AMHi AM Have you had first hand or whatever experience to be sure about taking it up the bumhole? LOL.

Alan

[SuppenHuhn]

Hier Pics und mehr von Jenna aus dem Artemis:

http://novanice.de

Oder hier:

http://www.lodderweiber.com/details.php?image_id=8046&mode=1

[Galazy]

Thanks for the reply. I'll report on my experiences if I get there over the weekend.

[Nille Copenhagen]

I hope to hit the Artemis on Saturday (several factors permitting) and I've a question about the price of an hour long session with anal. So, an hour session where we have sex twice. Anal both times. Is the total price €220 (€120 for an hour plus €100 extra for anal) or €320 (€120 for an hour plus €200 extra for 2 anal sessions)?

Thank you.Well anal is always tricky, if you are expecting 2x25 mins full anal and 10mins of rest. Just forget it, but ensure you don't get only 2x1min anal and pay 100€ for that. Years ago I got into this trap, she promise me anal but would only allow it for a few mins, I only paid 25 extra for it, that was in NRW so different prices.

I would agree with AM. 1 hour with anal should be 120+100 at Artemis.

[Angus Magee]

To answer the above question-no I have not tried it at Artemis, anal or two times in an hour. There is no way I would pay that much for anal, well, very, very little chance. If I wanted anal that badly I would go to a bordello where it can be had for more than half the cost.

In general though I will say that those who enjoy the FKK style of mongering are, I feel, much more go with the flow types. That is we do not show up with a shopping list. Not to say that you can not have stuff in mind, rather that you have your preferences but go with what feels good for you and your lover du jour,

There are plenty of providers at Artemis who will take you to the room and give you a session that is full of dirty acts but short on feeling. The better sessions are the one's with whom you develop a bit of 'sympathy' and the sex feels more like that you would have with a girl friend or maybe fuck buddy. You do not find this sort of girl by presenting her with a list of acts that you want to get through in an hour.

So my advise would be to concentrate on finding a girl with whom you click. Then if you have the stamina and can turn her on (she has to be a girl who actually likes anal and is not just doing it for the whopping price tag-another problem with the high price) you may just get anal twice in the hour. No guarantees though, that is the fun of FKK style mongering. When it happens it happens through mutual consent, lubricated by a few euros.

[Kimino]

after a mini apartments tour.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-berlin&p=1210879&viewfull=1#post1210879

and having some food, around 16:30 we (a friend of mine and i) checked in at artemis.

lingerie day.

after a while nebula2001 reached us, always nice spending time with him.

ok, maybe the thinnest lineup ever. i'm a big fan of artemis and also yesterday there was more than enough to have fun and good sex but it was different. more talents (at least the ones i consider such) where missing and where not replaced, imo, by new girls at the same level.

i have the feeling that the total number of girls was also quite low. as always some girls where complaining about the general situation, others where saying it was ok etc. etc. fact is that the lineup was at it's lowest levels.

really hope this is going to change.

anyway, at last, nina.

she had numerous reports and i can only confirm she is absolutely great.

czech. gfe, beautiful body. her face is not intriguing for me but this is very personal. i wanted to try the famous nina and i'm happy i did.

asked anal but she said usually it was ok but not today. got cim (very well done).

i'll definitely repeat.

ketty.

already sessioned with her, on her own and in double with clara.

casquette haircut, romanian, cute.

she was bitching about customers not asking for extras but when i asked for anal she said no. i knew it but just wanted to make fun of her. we had some nice time and laughed a lot.

great girl.

after going out for some food, we came back at artemis knowing we will be staying there until morning.

last girl was venera (i think). bulgaria. blonde hair. thin. almost no tits. a vague suicide girl look.

i knew it was risky, still i tried.

kind of bs session. complete fuck factory attitude. speedy, fake.

won't repeat.

so, i did enjoy my stay but i'm curious to see what i will find in my next visit and hope yesterdays lineup was an exception. sure artemis will not be the core of my next berlin trips.

kimino

[The Limey]

Back to the temple of Artemis to try some moves on the priestesses. Have to admit things are a lot easier in a club where the girls don't open a conversation with "Rent or own?" but rather "Would you like to have sex?"

I was chatting at the top of the stairs with witty SHAZ when LEAH passed by talking to a guy in a strange language: English. What? Why is she always asking me to talk in German when she can discourse like a parliamentarian?

Then fate struck: JENNIFER. She is a really pretty Dominican girl. I do tend to go for South American types: they are just naturally sexy in a way that Europeans aren't. But they can also be moody. I remember the first time I met Jennifer back in May I was really impressed by her beauty and we had a great time together (see my earlier report). But after that she wanted to monopolize me and freaked out when I went with another girl. After that I swore I wouldn't go with her again, but then for many months she was nice to me and just kept pleading with me and sort of wore down my resistance over time. Today it just struck me again how hot she is and I couldn't think of a reason not to give her another chance. When I told her, she acted like she couldn't believe it, then raced up to the room with me. The strange thing though, is once we got to the room, even though she was quite responsive, I still got the feeling that she was holding back at some level and that I was doing more to please her than she was to please me. This is the opposite to the Austrian girl a couple of weeks back who seemed in a way that she was trying too hard to please me and got kind of boring.

So what is it with me? Does a girl have to do some kind of impossibly precise balancing act to leave me with a good feeling? I don't think it's like that. To get repeats with me, or any other guy for that matter, all a girl at Artemis needs to do is leave behind all kinds of *artificial* behaviour. To act on her desires not her fears. To just let it flow: in the bed and everywhere else. That is the kind of girl I am always drawn to, whether it's for a few minutes pleasure or a lifetime of pleasure: a girl who is confident enough in herself that she doesn't have to use phony sales tactics, or try too hard, or pretend to act indifferent, or cling to you, or own you, or put you down, or put other girls down, or introduce bureaucratic constraints, or do any of the other weird things that result from insecurity. The real "naturals" are out there but incredibly rare, in the Artemis estrogenic microcosm and anywhere else you can think of. I do see a number of girls coming to the club from South America who start natural, but then become burdened with European feelings of guilt about sex as time goes by and become weird in bed. But a girl who stays natural can get as much business as she can handle.

[EdwardMaya]

Back to the temple of Artemis to try some moves on the priestesses. Have to admit things are a lot easier in a club where the girls don't open a conversation with "Rent or own?" but rather "Would you like to have sex?"

I was chatting at the top of the stairs with witty SHAZ when LEAH passed by talking to a guy in a strange language: English. What? Why is she always asking me to talk in German when she can discourse like a parliamentarian?Witty SHAZ? LOL.

Any reports on SHAZ? Who is she? .

Thanks.

[Nooky Ninja]

So what is it with me? Does a girl have to do some kind of impossibly precise balancing act to leave me with a good feeling?Woody Allen said there is nothing that cannot be cured with a little prozac and a polo club. Or maybe duct tape?

[Hessen Bub]

This is still Jennifer who was already working 10 years ago at Atlantis together with Maria, her sister Kati and Cuban Lisa?

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/IMG_00141.jpg

HB

[Pharisaer]

Lingerie day. I have the feeling that the total number of girls was also quite low.Maybe 60 or 70 girls. A calm evening.


the Austrian girl a couple of weeks backDanielle. Don't be afraid of her, she will leave A soon, I think.

[The Limey]

Maybe 60 or 70 girls. A calm evening.

Danielle. Don't be afraid of her, she will leave A soon, I think.Hey, I will miss her.

Interesting you know so much about her though. Hope I am not intruding on a romance.

[Pharisaer]

Hey, I will miss her. Interesting you know so much about her though. Hope I am not intruding on a romance.A romance? Yeah, I know she loves me too, espescially at the lockers when I hand out the fee.

Danielle is one of the girls I like to chat with. She does a rotation around the big FKK's like Artemis, Paradise, YingYang, Bumsalp. Danielle won't stay anywhere longer than three months or so.

[Member #4285]

It looks like I will miss the lingerie day, but I will be there on Thursday from 11 to aprox 20. 00!

PM if anyone going =)

[Sucker17]

It looks like I will miss the lingerie day, but I will be there on Thursday from 11 to aprox 20. 00!

PM if anyone going =) I don't know if I'll be at the A on Thursday evening, as I am with work collegues. Have to work Friday but Friday evening is a sure bet. But give us your report from A!

[Skristel]

Hi Guys,

I'm in Berlin soon for a couple of days and don't want to be at Artemis every evening (although I like Artemis very much, however familiarity tends to breed contempt)

Do any of who fellow mongerers know where else I can go to for some action (FKK or sauna or brothel etc)?

I'll be staying in the Heidelberger platz area (slight south of west berlin)

Your help would be very much appreciated.

Danke Schon

[Rocketboy0]

Hi Guys,
I'm in Berlin soon for a couple of days and don't want to be at Artemis every evening. Do any of who fellow mongerers know where else I can go to for some action (FKK or sauna or brothel etc)?
I'll be staying in the Heidelberger platz area (slight south of west berlin) Well just read the ISG Berlin Forum (no. 668). Or Angus Magee (a.k.a. dass Dude) 's blog. You are a few minutes' walk from van Kampen, and Royal, Kamilla Dee all relatively close by. It's all there, a few keystrokes away.

[Charlie 123]

Well just read the ISG Berlin Forum (no. 668). Or Angus Magee (a.k.a. dass Dude) 's blog. You are a few minutes' walk from van Kampen, and Royal, Kamilla Dee all relatively close by. It's all there, a few keystrokes away.Spot on.

Look at berlin-intim. De as well. A very useful resource.

[The Limey]

it was a quiet afternoon at the club. yet still "too many dicks in the house" for my taste.

not expecting a lot of action right away, i spent a few minutes in the girls' video training room, then went upstairs. i was looking for an old favourite of mine called lina (leena) from hungary but wasn't very optimistic. the sauna was empty (the one with the sign banning horses and hard-ons) , so i popped in for a quiet read. occasionally i would peek through the glass door at the ladies strutting by. there was a slim brunette who caught my attention: no older than 20, body like a stretched bedsheet, and dressed as nature intended. when she put her hand on the doorknob, i just thought,"oh come on, you girls never come in here." she went on walking for a bit, then returned and pulled the door open a bit. and now i was thinking,"no, you are not dragging me out of here before i've finished this chapter." she seemed quite indecisive. without looking at me, she closed the door, and went walking again. then a few seconds later, she came back, opened the door all the way, and came inside all the way. then she calmly put her towel down, and sat on it.

we were the only ones in there. to cover up my embarrassment (and not being able to cover up anything else) i started some chit-chat with her. apparently we had chatted a few times before. she asked me what i was reading. it was just a book of vulgar phrases which i was studying to help complete my german language education. she said she had thought i was a serious type. she asked to see the book, so i handed it over. it turned out she was moldovan and her german was no better than mine. i realized it would be only polite to go and sit next to her and "point out" some items for her, for example "möpse" (puppies) and "igelnasen" (hedgehog noses). my hair was matted with sweat. rivulets were running down her breasts. she was getting quite interested in the book and offered to buy it from me. however, she would not accept my price of 60 euros. already the heat was too intense. boiling sweat was pouring into my eyes. even worse, a gaggle of italians were squeezing in the door, arrived for a bit of sightseeing. it was all too much. i knew i had to get out of that room before i exploded. i ran out. into the hot shower. a few moments later, damn! the moldovan girl followed me in. what a tight body! the funny thing is she never asked me to take her to a zimmer. all she had to do was tap me and i would have zimmered her right there and then! but she just preened herself. and disappeared.

just then i ran into lina, as beautiful as ever. i quickly agreed to a rendezvous. lina was quite wet and her nipples seemed to be connected to her clit by an imaginary steel wire. while not as magical as our first meeting, it was a pretty hot session.

back in the fray, i was dismayed to see that janine, the tall black-haired girl, has been let back into the club and is basically plying her trade as merrily as ever. how many guys have been fleeced by her since my sad experience? how many more complaints will it take before the management decides to put an end to her plunder?

sorry. i love the women of artemis, i love its potential to be great, but i have no respect for an establishment that allows a confidence trickster to roam loose and just prey on the customers. in fact it doesn't hurt only the guys: it hurts the other women who are just trying to do a good job and provide enjoyment for all, but lose business through involuntary association with the dregs. and if you get several janines, then what develops is a gang culture where fools rush in and (sexy) angels fear to tread.

i won't be back to artemis until janine goes.

[Nooky Ninja]

Still "too many dicks in the house" for my taste.This would make a great title for an autobiography.


I have no respect for an establishment that allows a confidence trickster to roam loose and just prey on the customers. In fact it doesn't hurt only the guys: it hurts the other women who are just trying to do a good job and provide enjoyment for all, but lose business through involuntary association with the dregs. And if you get several Janines, then what develops is a gang culture where fools rush in and (sexy) angels fear to tread. I won't be back to Artemis until Janine goes.The Sheriff in the movie Blazing Saddles, when he was out numbered and out gunned, put his revolver to his head and told the banditos: "No one move or I'll shoot myself".

[Charlie 123]

I won't be back to Artemis until Janine goes.Please elaborate. Who is Janine and what's the story? Sorry if this has been covered previously, in which case I must have missed it.

[Angus Magee]

I won't be back to Artemis until Janine goes.Schade. I am sure the girls will be very disappointed.

[Regnad]

well, what a day, my maiden voyage to artemis. a few thoughts before i begin my travelogue through a wide world of female pulchritude.

1. artemis is by far the cleanest, best tended, best kept club i've ever visited.

2. i was there on a thursday from 1-8 pm, *though out of the public eye from 5-6 and 7-8, which is to say that i never got to see much of the evening shift. i've never had the privilege of saying "no thank" to so many beautiful women in one day. the lineup was quite something to behold.

3. the girls are, by and large, more sales oriented than in the other clubs i've visited. not pushy, mind you, but friendly and outgoing. my company was sought quite regularly, and there were quite a few boys on hand as well.

4. there was almost no public displays of affection here, quite different from my experience in other clubs i've visited, all in hessen or nrw.

fatima, from slovakia. she approached me, quite attractive and affectionate and while i had barely arrived, she managed to get me interested quite a bit before i was ready, so i sent her away after some fifteen minutes of couch snuggling. she had a bit of trouble taking "later" for an answer. libidinous character that i am, i went looking for her quite shortly thereafter. what followed was on ok session, far short of fabulous. i'm an affection hound and dfk is quite necessary for me to stay excited. while that was on the menu, it lacked passion and conviction.

back on the floor, the lineup seemed to weaken as the afternoon progressed. my sense is that all the other boys liked the same girls i *did and they were kept steadily busy.

around toward 4:30, i spotted a young lady at the bar and, after ogling for a bit, went up to draw her attention. we chatted a bit, my attention growing, when she suggested that i take her and her friend off to a room. now the friend had my attention as well. in reply, i declined but said i'd be happy to vanish with one of them."who," she said."i dunno; it's a pretty tough choice." i hemmed, i hawed, i hemmed a bit more and, looking her in the eye, i said,"you." we chatted a bit more before i finally leaned over to kiss her. she stopped me and asked that i wait until we got to more private quarters. she went on to say that she would, but likes to reserve that right and, therefore, chose to withhold said form of affection from public view.

josephine, from germany. the door closed, the towels spread, the robe and shoes rep001tered about the room, we climbed the bed from opposite sides and walked on knees toward each other. our bodies upright the bed, we put our arms around each other and quickly started kissing warmly and passionately."ok," sez i to myself," this is going to take an hour." what followed was heavenly. one solid hour. 60 (count 'them, sixty) minutes, of sweet tender passionate lovemaking. i've been with at least a couple of hundred women in my time, even married three of 'them, and josephine's oral skill has her certainly in the top 10, maybe the top 5. she's small and slight, with a magnificent hourglass shape and a fine fine superfine rear, a delight for a man with the behind in mind. i'm going to guess she's in her early to mid thirties. she's not a girl, she's a woman. and she makes love just like a woman. *

back on the floor at 6, it's off to dinner. and then back to the floor. i've only burned an hour and a half of my two hour budget, but i'm done for the day. after josephine anything else would be anticlimactic. as i stroll past the bar, i find myself accosted by a terribly fetching young woman, short blond hair, and vivacious from head to toe. we're laughing and joking, i finally tell her that i was done for the day until she came along. i do tell her, though, that i really need to wait until 7 to recharge.

diana, a scorpio from romania. well, she was quite fabulous though my body was a bit less than willing to cooperate. the kissing was more than acceptable and the eye contact throughout brought joy to an old man's heart. i just adore gazing deeply into a young woman's eyes as we're making sweet sweet music with one another. some twenty minutes in, my throbbing member quite a bit less than throbbing, she decides it's time for her to perform another round of oral gymnastics, which she does as well as nadia comaneci did the other kind. well, she gets a rise out of me and as the half hour winds down, i ask her, only half-believing the words coming out of my mouth, to fetch another condom. we play some more push-me, pull-you until i've burned the last calorie available.

i finally take my leave of artemis, giving josephine, diana, and the club itself an enthusiastic three thumbs up.

note: this report was typed on an ipad by one very tired human. please forgive any typos; i'm normally more careful, but i wanted to get this up while it's still fresh in my memory. now i lay me down to sleep. if only i could wake in the morning and see josephine lying there next to me.

[Regnad]

A small addendum to my post of last night re: Artemis:

1. It totally sucks that this forum removes the ability to edit within minutes or hours of posting. As I'm a member of other groups that use vBulletin, I know that this is under Jackson's control. If you're reading this, Jackson, please consider giving more time to clean up our work.

2. I don't know how many girls I spoke with yesterday, certainly 15, maybe 25. All but one was at least functional, if not fluent, in English.

[Kimino]

A small addendum to my post of last night re: Artemis:

1. It totally sucks that this forum removes the ability to edit within minutes or hours of posting. As I'm a member of other groups that use vBulletin, I know that this is under Jackson's control. If you're reading this, Jackson, please consider giving more time to clean up our work.If I can add something, there's also a nice plugin that will allow users to read the forum on smartphones more easily (at least on iphones).

Just in case.

Kimino

[Angus Magee]

1. It totally sucks that this forum removes the ability to edit within minutes or hours of posting. As I'm a member of other groups that use vBulletin, I know that this is under Jackson's control. If you're reading this, Jackson, please consider giving more time to clean up our work.As I understand it it has to do with the auto editing that can also screw up your post by changing abbreviations and adding unwanted capitalizations etc.

I also believe that Jackson has all this turned on in an attempt to prevent such things as phone numbers and email addresses from being posted in the forum. As there is no, or very little, live moderation these things might be needed. Myself I try to write my longer reports in a text editing program and proof before posting. But there have been times when I did want to go back and edit. Oh well.

AM

[Charlie 123]

Thursday 3rd, both with girls I'd had before.

Firstly Mary, Romanian, early 20's, blond, long straight hair, pendulous naturals, pretty girl, speaks good English. Previously I had seen her twice, both times late in the evening when I was very tired, resulting in two very mediocre sessions. This time was a quantum improvement. Great GFE, DFK, DATY. 69, etc. Slow and passionate and very wet! 90 minute session, terrific fun.

Gabicza, Hungarian, early 20's, small with shapely figure and huge tits (for her frame). Lovely girl. I know her well. First time I'd been with her in many months, a super reacquaintance. Recommended.

Charlie

[Cryo73]

Can you get a real drink at Artemis. Like a. Double scotch, or is it just those overexpensive 10 euro- beers?

[WreckDiver]

No I would do my drinking outside Artemis over price is just the one of many problems with drinking at Artemis.

[Angus Magee]

Can you get a real drink at Artemis. Like a. Double scotch, or is it just those overexpensive 10 euro- beers?They serve beer, champagne and mixed drinks (vodka tonic, screwdriver etc.) so I guess you could order a scotch. If the scotch is any good or if a double would cost €20 I can not really say. Artemis is not the place to go drinking that is a certainty.

AM

[Charlie 123]

Can you get a real drink at Artemis. Like a. Double scotch, or is it just those overexpensive 10 euro- beers?I drink shorts all the time at Artemis, despite the outrageous cost. A tiny measure of vodka, whisky, gin etc costs one drinks ticket = 10E. Champagne is available only by the bottle@150E per.

As Angus says, Artemis is not a good place to go for a drink.

Charlie

[Kimino]

Can you get a real drink at Artemis. Like a. Double scotch, or is it just those overexpensive 10 euro- beers?This is one area where Palace (Fra) beats Artemis 10-0. I had a couple of great cocktalis there.

As Charlie, I always get shorts at Artemis. Where shorts is literal. :)

I would spend 15euro but give ma a decent quantity and a f... real glass.

I find this really disturbing. Well, probably not disturbing enough. :)

Ciao!

[Cryo73]

Thanks.

Well, I wouldn't think about drinking alot if I went there. Getting drunk makes you pretty useless after all, but it could be nice to have just a little something when you sit down with a cigarette or so.

Oh well, maybe next time I'm in Berlin.

[Linus Van Pelt]

Should someone go to Artemis at November 8th (Tuersday) , please, could you make me the favour of telling Nina (Czech, tall, dark) : Happy Birthday from me, the curly boy that used to visit Artemis during the whole last year.

I almost felt in love for Shiva, and Nina has been a real friend and affective girl on being like a positive glue between her and me. She gave me the most affection possible in those moments.

I will never forget her and the way she made me spend those particular situations.

A.

Thank you very much if you could bring that message to her.

Of course, thank you anyway.

[Kimino]

Thanks.

Well, I wouldn't think about drinking alot if I went there. Getting drunk makes you pretty useless after all, but it could be nice to have just a little something when you sit down with a cigarette or so.

Oh well, maybe next time I'm in Berlin.I never drink a lot, or better, I never even go closer to getting drunk in clubs and also in general.

But I would really appreciate a decent cocktail after a session, maybe with something to eat, olives and chips at the minimum, at the table.

Every time I get in there I spend hundreds of euros but the quality of the bar is in high school party standards. Actually at the parties I went we did much better than that.

That's how I would like it.

And obviously 7 on 7, lingerie day. :)

Kimino, counting the days.

[Sucker17]

As promised, here is my report from my very first visit on Saturday evening / night. AND A HELL OF A NIGHT IT WAS! I write this while I still remember the details well enough.

First I came to the club by S-bahn (thanks to great "Walking With Angus"-video) and it was around 17:30. I had a friend who should arrive later in the club, so he did, but I had to enter this adventure solo without wingman. First of all, my impression of the entrance was wow-it looks like a hotel! Despite the receptionist quick automated infotalk to newbies, I ended up understanding the picture thanks to this forum.

After inserting my valuables and cell phone in the safety locker, and getting undressed, I took a shower, put on the bathrobe and entered what is difficult to describe other than: HEAVEN! Lots and lots of beautiful naked babes as long as my eye could reach. At this time I was puzzled that there were already a lot of male guests in the club. I remembered the advice from multiple members of this forum saying: don't go up with the first girl you see. I went directly to the bar and wanted to get something to drink, just to make me more relaxed. I ended up in the room with Shiva from Prague, less than five minutes later! So much for sense and preparation.

Luckily I had a fantastic first one-hour session with Shiva that had no limits, and she thoroughly seemed to enjoy my company as much as I enjoyed hers. DFK, OWO. 69, fingers in pussy (which not many girls allowed later on). CIM and Anal was also on offer, but I declined as I think it is too expensive and I didn't want to order extras on my first session. Overall: 9 of 10! She looks really hot, a brunette in mid 30ies, but look much more younger. I impressed her with my limited Czech vocabulary.

Then, I got something to eat in the restaurant. The food is not that bad, but not fantastic either. I don't think they attend any inspectors from Michelin anyway.

I got a lot of sharks coming my way but declined their offer. When some of them get pissed after getting the same reply from me for the 4th time, it just confirms that my decision was correct! I guess they get too desperate to get turnover that it gets to their head, and mood. I was approached by Vivienne. 25 year another brunette from Romania. She was quite pushy, but I felt a true attraction and decided to try her out. By this time (20:30) Artemis was already packed with people and it was not easy to get an available room. She proposed to go to the kino. As I am not too fond of letting everybody else watch my action in public, we moved towards the rooms adjacent to the kino downstairs. A new experience to hear people fucking nearby, while you are doing the same. Anyway Vivienne proved to be very skillful in bed, at the end of the session she proposed a CIM for 50 Euro extra. I was so horny at that time, I decided to stand on my feet and spraying her mouth and boobs with my cum. Great session. Overall: 7 of 10!

What followed after these two sessions was me trying to relax and doing my best job in declining offers from the most beautiful girls on this planet. I eventually was convinced by Kamilla from Hungary. 32 years blonde. Not really my type is what I thought when I saw her, but she told me she had only worked in A for about 10 days. I decided to take her on a spin as I have only good experiences with "new" girls. With the lack of available "zimmers" in mind, she tried to persuade me to fuck her in the kino. I told her that I prefer her company in the privacy of a room, so we waited for one of the rooms to be liberated (10 min) while she did a good job in getting me even more horny. What followed in the room is best described as. WTF I unleashed a tiger in the bed! She was awesome, I had decided on half an hour but soon changed my mind. I licked her pussy to her first orgasm (her own description) with a client in Artemis. I felt she was very real and no fake show. Overall: 8 of 10 (only less than 9 because of her looks).

I felt that after three girls, I would have big problems going for a fourth one, but after some hours relaxing, I was met next to the bar area by a brunette from Budapest (what is it with these Hungarian girls and me?). Suzanna. 26 years old. She was very persuasive and managed to get me back in the zimmer. I thought I would have bigger problems getting myself hard, but after a hot 69, she got me stone hard! We had half an hour with great fucking in missionary, doggy and cowgirl. Only thing I disliked was her nagging about me cumming in her mouth (which I did not want to waste the rest of my euros on). Besides she did this "condom control" touching with her fingers, while fucking in missionary. I told her to remove her hands and got a much better session after that. Overall: 7 of 10.

Final words: Wow. I am still hypnotised by the FKK spirit. My friend agreed. He had two great sessions with a brunette from Hamburg and was very content with them both! I have been to Prague several times, but as Nille Copenhagen said: Artemis is so much better than anything you find in Prague. I am really looking forward to my first visit to Frankfurt in about two weeks. I have planned a visit to FKK Palace and Oase. I'll make reports from them as well. Until then, I hope you found these evaluations useful!

[Nille Copenhagen]

Final words: Wow. I am still hypnotised by the FKK spirit. My friend agreed. He had two great sessions with a brunette from Hamburg and was very content with them both! I have been to Prague several times, but as Nille Copenhagen said: Artemis is so much better than anything you find in Prague. I am really looking forward to my first visit to Frankfurt in about two weeks. I have planned a visit to FKK Palace and Oase. I'll make reports from them as well. Until then, I hope you found these evaluations useful!Hi Sucker17,

Welcome to the FKK world.

I'm happy you enjoyed Artemis, now you are prepared for FKK Palace, that would blow your mind too. The girls are even hotter.

Well I had good time in Prague too, it required some more effort to find the top girls, but FKK is heaven as you have so many hot naked women in the same place and you can fuck them all.

FKK Palace and Oase are excellent choices. Once you step into the FKK world there is no turning back, I knew that when I had my debut years ago at FKK Palace. LOL,

If you see Cheyenne at Palace send my regards to her, I can recommend her.

Nille

[Regnad]

Should someone go to Artemis at November 8th (Tuersday) , please, could you make me the favour of telling Nina (Czech, tall, dark) : Happy Birthday from me, the curly boy that used to visit Artemis during the whole last year.

I almost felt in love for Shiva, and Nina has been a real friend and affective girl on being like a positive glue between her and me. She gave me the most affection possible in those moments.

I will never forget her and the way she made me spend those particular situations.

A.

Thank you very much if you could bring that message to her.

Of course, thank you anyway.
I wish I'd seen your message earlier. Nina will be spending her birthday in Monaco and is leaving today. I spent a wonderful hour with her last night. And i did wash her a happy birthday before i departed. More on that later.

[Linus Van Pelt]

I wish I'd seen your message earlier. Nina will be spending her birthday in Monaco and is leaving today. I spent a wonderful hour with her last night. And i did wash her a happy birthday before i departed. More on that later.He he, this is the typical case in which a German would say "Scheiße!".

Believe me I thought to post that message before, but I postponed.

Anyway, thank you for the information. I would be grateful if you could tell her later, if possible.

By the way, do you agree she is the best sweet GFE ever met in Artemis? She told me she really really like tenderness and affection, despite her german collegues. And I feel is true.

Bye, have a nice day.

[Regnad]

What a contrast. The club was crowded to such a degree on Thursday that I decided to bypass Saturday, opting for Sunday for my return visit to Artemis. I arrived around 3:30 in the afternoon to find the place quite the morgue. As the day moved into night the crowd increased some, the boys far outnumbering the girls and girls attractive to me in very short supply. Ironically, this worked to my advantage as two girls that I found on the cusp of attractiveness on Thursday and on whom I passed proved to be quite wonderful.

Marketa of Czech Republic. I chatted with Marketa briefly on Thursday before ultimately passing; there was something about her face that made her seem almost mannequinesque and put me off, though she was clearly quite pretty. Today it bothered me less and as I sat on a couch looking at her stunning shape, it occurred to me that I wanted to run my hands all over her. And so I did. What I discovered in private chambers was that Marketa has skin as wonderful as her shape. She's sweet, affectionate, and eager to please. We did have a somewhat shortish session as I was ready to burst at any moment and the sight of her in doggie was too much for me to withstand.

An hour or so later, I departed the scene with Natalya of Poland. The common denominator today is the all three of my bed partners have fabulous bodies: flat stomachs, round shapely behinds, and hourglass figures. Natalya was a bit of a disappointment though she didn't have to be. She REALLY wanted the CIM bonus which I'd loved to have given her were my body willing to comply. Her approach, though, was overly aggressive and she totally missed the cues I was sending as she incorrectly thought that fast and furious was the way to go. She clearly has some skills and were she, some more GFE and a lot less mission oriented, she'd be a clear candidate for a repeat visit.

Time passed as I waited for Diana to show her smiling face in the club at her appointed time. 20:00 h as she told me on Thursday. As 8:30 neared, I was sitting at the bar as Nina walked up to get a drink. Remembering that I'd passed on her overture on Thursday, she just offered a soft Hello, totally unaware that she'd happened by at just the right time. I'd been admiring her shape for some time now and it was high time that my fingers got to share the pleasure that had previously been the domain of my eyes. What I hadn't been aware of before is that Nina has as beautiful a pair of eyes as you'd ever want to see. And that she uses them to mesmerize to great effect; they spent the greater part of the next hour gazing deeply into mine as we made love, mad love and abandoned love, tenderly, gently, sweetly. Nina is as wonderful a lover as you could ever hope to meet. We parted after an hour, me deciding to withhold showering until the morning so as to retain her sweet scent as I slept the night away in perfect contentment.

[Angus Magee]

.me deciding to withhold showering until the morning so as to retain her sweet scent as I slept the night away in perfect contentment.I thought I was the only lonely pervert who did this on occasion. ;)

Great reports Regnad. I will post them to the RofD thread a little later unless some one beats me to it.

AM

[The Cane]

Marketa of Czech Republic. I chatted with Marketa briefly on Thursday before ultimately passing; there was something about her face that made her seem almost mannequinesque and put me off, though she was clearly quite pretty. Today it bothered me less and as I sat on a couch looking at her stunning shape, it occurred to me that I wanted to run my hands all over her. And so I did. What I discovered in private chambers was that Marketa has skin as wonderful as her shape. She's sweet, affectionate, and eager to please. We did have a somewhat shortish session as I was ready to burst at any moment and the sight of her in doggie was too much for me to withstand.The wonderful Marketa! I had asked a few weeks ago if she was still around. Thanks for this confirmation. Yes, she has a shapely little bum for a girl her size. And I agree! What a site from behind in doggie! I remember as clearly as if it were yesterday. Her on all fours and alabaster cheeks spread wide revealing a little pink butthole. Took her in her asshole in one of the rooms located near the kino. Twas' divine!

[Sucker17]

Hi Sucker17,

Welcome to the FKK world.

I'm happy you enjoyed Artemis, now you are prepared for FKK Palace, that would blow your mind too. The girls are even hotter.

Well I had good time in Prague too, it required some more effort to find the top girls, but FKK is heaven as you have so many hot naked women in the same place and you can fuck them all.

FKK Palace and Oase are excellent choices. Once you step into the FKK world there is no turning back, I knew that when I had my debut years ago at FKK Palace. LOL,

If you see Cheyenne at Palace send my regards to her, I can recommend her.

NilleThanks Nille, I'll surely do that if I meet her, what am I looking for (blonde / brunette / nationality / age)? You are so true: once you go FKK you won't go back! The girls were almost as pushy as in Darling (Prague) but they never nagged about drinks or private dance. The fact that they choose their customers themselves and are more motivated to make people repeat is a real bonus in itself. I actually went to King George with some collegues the night before and it was a total disappointment. The girls were ugly and looked more interested in their Iphones than fucking the customers. I guess the flatrate makes them lazy!

Nille, if you should cross a Norwegian on your path in Germany or Prague. Ask him if his first FKK experience was Artemis. It could turn out it's me.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Nille, if you should cross a Norwegian on your path in Germany or Prague. Ask him if his first FKK experience was Artemis. It could turn out it's me.Sure, I'll keep that in mind. I'm looking forward to hear about your trip to Hessen.

Look for the most beautiful German girl in the club and you'll find her. 90% of the girls in the club are blond so is she.

But she ain't cheap, the more cash you pour on her the better she gets. Just a warning.

Cheers,

Nille

[Niby Lu]

I thought the apartments would give me a higher chance at GFE, but decided to follow your advice, and went to Artemis on Thursday night. Arrived around half past eight, decided to stay until around midnight and to spend 200 for an entrance and 1 hour with a girl.

At first, was slightly put off by the place. The only area with girls was a pub, and it had a sleazy streak to it (not nearly as much as King George, but I expected laurel wreaths and togas, you see.) Food didn't look good, and seeing guys in identical bathrobes consuming it made me feel like I'm in hospital. Girls pretty, some really beautiful, and a few rather unappealing.

Walked around a bit, a few girls asked me if I wanted to go to a zimmer, but not pushy at all. Despite what they say, girls there don't jump on you trying to grab your dick, which invoked a weird mixture of relief and disappointment in me. Sat by the blonde girl with a lovely smile. She turned out to be from Ibiza, very chatty girl, immediately put me at ease and made me laugh in a minute. We talked a bit, she wasn't pushing for a zimmer. Finally she asked if I was aware of the purpose of the establishement I'm in, I played dumb and made her explain to me the basics of paid sex industry. I asked if the kissing was part of the trade, she replied "Maybe" with a sultry look. On the way up, I realized that I've forgotten her name. I always forget names, and it always embarrasses me. She laughed and introduced herself again.

Time with her was amazing. Gentle kisses, hugging, all the right sounds, we switched between smiling and laughing to passionate moans and she always followed. Her breasts turned out to be fake, but she was so natural it didn't matter. When I was close to finish, I asked her to smile, she instantly gave me a mischievous smile, and a bit of a laugh. Her change from passionate to playful was so swift, she was so eager to be how I want her to be. I finished straight away. She'd make a good actress.

Downstairs, I gave her 70 euros, hoping 10 euro tip isn't offensive, feeling like a piker. She was very graceful about it, gave me the "I'm flattered" look, kissed me and smiled goodbye. That's when I realized I forgot her name again.

Despite that, I felt amazing. Took a swim in the pool. Went back upstairs feeling fresh and happy. The place started getting to me. It just doesn't happen too often, that a cute naked girl comes up to you and tries to be charming and tempting, hoping you'll agree to fuck her. Not even every day, I'd say, and in this place it happens a lot. I spent some time staring at the girls and listening to them whisper promises in my ear, but no girl seemed interested in a longer chat before the zimmer. The girl to guy ratio was getting worse, finally I decided to look for a Spanish girl again, and saw her chatting away with another guy. Could not stop myself from admiring her interpersonal skills, she seemed so absorbed by the conversation, so honestly interested.

My eyes met with another blondes eyes. There was something dirty in her face, in a good way. She beckoned me with a finger."So many girls around, difficult decision, isn't it?" She was from Poland, with an unusual name in the trade. Hillary. We chatted a bit, she was quite quick to get to the business."Look, just tell me what you want, and I'll say if I provide." I said she's very businesslike."It's a good thing", she replied."If a girl is straight forward here, she'll keep her promises upstairs". I didn't feel there's any chemistry between us, but I invited her anyway.

Upstairs, there was already a queue for a zimmer. We sat on sofa, I kissed her breast but she told me to wait until we get inside. This made a very bad impression and I realized I made a mistake, but it was too late to back off.

In a room she started DFK. She's an amazing kisser, extremely passionate, she won me over in a heartbeat. Her breasts were so perfectly shaped I expected them to be fake, but they were real, as was the rest of her perfect body. Her BJ and ball licking was also very passionate, a bit towards porn, with slapping dick on the tongue and all. She fucks hard, too. I got to the point where most working girls tell me to be gentler, but she said "Harder!" It's been a long time since I've met a girl so enthusiastic about getting fucked that hard. I spanked her lightly, she kept saying "Harder" until her bum turned pink. She's fine with being called names too, anything but 'working girl'. I went there for a GFE and ended up having a PSE. No regrets though. .

"So, did you make the right choice?" she asked. I only had enough strengh to nod. Walking out on wobbly legs I noticed that queue for a zimmer grew. Hillary took 10 euro tip in stride and kissed my cheek.

The plan was to go home now, it was midnight so I could still catch an S-Bahn home, and I've spent my 220 euros. But I just couldn't, instead I withdrew another 100 (costed me 8 euro! Don't use Artemis ATM) , had a rest and went back to a bar. Way too many guys there around 1am, even on Thursday, at this time you can forget about being picked up, in fact you need to be quick and chat up a pretty girl as soon as she comes back from the zimmer, before some other guy does. Finally I stopped a stunningly beautiful girl with long, straight black hair and a forelock, dark skin and teeny body with very small perky brests. She had some long made-up name, I think it was Lotadora. She took me downstairs because a queue upstairs was very long.

She started by cleaning my dick with a tissue, she was very rough. I frowned, she noticed it and closely inspected my dick, probably looking for STD sores. Proceeded with a bad, dry BJ. This wasn't going anywhere so I asked for a condom. No kissing, no face contact whatsoever,"Don't touch my face". She kept her fingers around my dick so I don't put it all in, no matter what position. Very fake moans and "Fuck me", no expression on her face. Complained about changing positions. That brunette at King George's (I think her name is Roxanne) gives way better service. Disaster, no matter how beautiful. When giving her 60 euros I realized I should've tipped other girls more. Tenner doesn't quite cover the difference in service.

Had a swim downstairs, than a rest by the pool with a nice green tea. Than sat upstairs, some girls came up to me but I wanted to go home soon. A cute funny girl by the name of Shaz sat by and stroke my hair. Made me feel like a puppy or a child, she even pinched my cheek. I hugged her for a few minutes, feeling kinda wretched cause I knew I'm not taking her upstairs. When I told her I'm going home she said "I hate you", but in a funny childish way.

On my way out I've noticed the Spanish girl, she was sitting alone, looking a bit tired. I came up to ask for her name again, saying hey, you don't remember mine by now either, right? Wrong. She remembered it. And hers is Amalia. You're welcome. .

I was back home around 3, my trip totalled at 310 euros including taxi, and although I'd be better off if I left before midnight and not spend on Lotadora, ATM and taxi, it was still worth the money all in all. I'd rather go to Artemis once a month than to King George every week. Next time I'll come earlier cause there are just too many guys after midnight, and probably will give higher tips (20?) to the good girls.

Now, a few questions.

Is this ratio (one in three girls being terrible) normal for Artemis, or was I a bit unlucky?

Is girl to guy ratio even worse on weekends, or do they invite more girls to keep the ratio the same?

How long do you wait for a room on weekends?

TL; DR:

Smily blonde from Ibiza, Amalia: great conversation, very laid back, great GFE, good actress. Can't wait to have her again.

Polish blonde Hillary with a dirty smile: don't be put off by her professional demeanor, she IS a professional and delivers amazing performance. I get horny just thinking of her.

Romanian brunette Lotadora with small perky breasts: don't.

Shaz: don't let her treat you like a puppy! Where's your dignity ffs! ; P

[Peter Alan]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Berlin towards the end of this week and I'm planning a visit to Artemis. I have to choose between Friday night or Saturday morning and can see advantages to both. There will probably be more girls on Friday night and fewer guys on Saturday morning.

Any advice?

[Sdrumm]

This is my podium after 2 days passed to Artemis and after meeting 9 girls:

1) Fatima from Bratislava. My favorite from last visit in August. Always smiling and cheerful and with excellent service.

2) Dorine from Germany 29 whyear old blonde. A big strong girl with big tits and a few kg. Too but with graet service.

3) Betsy from Poland 29 whyear old blonde very good service.

For me a great service also includes kisses with tongue and fingers in the pussy.

Saturday evening crowdes with waiting to find a free room.

Sunday very more quiet.

Bye Bye

[Toscana]

Thanks for the report. Glad you had a good time.

I suspect you were just unlucky with the sparse line-up on the Thursday. You just can't tell in advance, although clearly weekends are going to be busier.

I remember Hilary well too. Good choice, there's just something about her. A great performer indeed (#2897).

[Rocketboy0]

Hi guys,

I have to choose between Friday night or Saturday morning and can see advantages to both. There will probably be more girls on Friday night and fewer guys on Saturday morning.

Any advice?Sat morning (and afternoon) is dead dead dead as all recover from Fri night. It's a no brainer-you will have 2-3X the choices the night before.

Just try to get there Friday eve by 8:00pm.full strength team, all fresh little virgins. If it does get crowded, it is unlikely to do so before 10:30-11:00, and before then there is just a nice buzz in the air.

And "crowded" very relative-really not a problem during off Messe nights.

[Angus Magee]

Now, a few questions.

Is this ratio (one in three girls being terrible) normal for Artemis, or was I a bit unlucky?

Is girl to guy ratio even worse on weekends, or do they invite more girls to keep the ratio the same?

How long do you wait for a room on weekends?As RB notes it is always better to arrive at the premium time. The girl / punter ration is usually pretty good on any given day, even the really busy Messe days, if one can arrive at the right time. Trying to predict the over all ratio on any given day is next to impossible and it will almost always get busy after 22:00.

Room waits on the weekend are rarely more than 10 minutes. The girls do tend to get more impatient and want to do kino sessions etc. But if you make it clear that you wish to wait for a proper room most will go along with it.

AM

[Peter Alan]

Sat morning (and afternoon) is dead dead dead as all recover from Fri night. It's a no brainer-you will have 2-3X the choices the night before.

Just try to get there Friday eve by 8:00pm. Full strength team, all fresh little virgins. If it does get crowded, it is unlikely to do so before 10:30-11:00, and before then there is just a nice buzz in the air.

And "crowded" very relative-really not a problem during off Messe nights."no brainer" is the perfect answer, thanks

[Oralover]

Sat morning (and afternoon) is dead dead dead as all recover from Fri night. It's a no brainer-you will have 2-3X the choices the night before.

Just try to get there Friday eve by 8:00pm. Full strength team, all fresh little virgins. If it does get crowded, it is unlikely to do so before 10:30-11:00, and before then there is just a nice buzz in the air.

And "crowded" very relative-really not a problem during off Messe nights.I am going to artemis for the first time this weekend.

Won't land in Berlin until 8PM on Friday Night. By the time I check into the hotel etc wouldn't be able to get there until 11PM.

Is it still worth going that night? I was thinking about just going Saturday night from about 7pm on.

You say Sat afternoons are dead. How about Sat nights? As good as a Friday Night?

Thanks

[Nille Copenhagen]

I am going to artemis for the first time this weekend.

Won't land in Berlin until 8PM on Friday Night. By the time I check into the hotel etc wouldn't be able to get there until 11PM.

Is it still worth going that night? I was thinking about just going Saturday night from about 7pm on.

You say Sat afternoons are dead. How about Sat nights? As good as a Friday Night?

ThanksNo problem, I was in the room with a girl until closing time at 5AM.

So you still have 6 hours of action even if you arrive 11PM. So go for it.

IMO Fri and Sat night are equally great.

[Rocketboy0]

I am going to artemis for the first time this weekend.

Won't land in Berlin until 8PM on Friday Night. By the time I check into the hotel etc wouldn't be able to get there until 11PM.

Is it still worth going that night? I was thinking about just going Saturday night from about 7pm on.

You say Sat afternoons are dead. How about Sat nights? As good as a Friday Night?

ThanksDepends how tired you will be Fri. But both nights will be fine-at least the fullest staff of the week. Crowds prob not too big a deal this week.

[Tan123]

Depends how tired you will be Fri. But both nights will be fine-at least the fullest staff of the week. Crowds prob not too big a deal this week.Bro Rocketboy. I thought most nights during the weekend will be crowded? I was thinking of going the afternoon session this weekend to avoid the crowd. Can you please kindly advise on why the crowd will not be too big this weekend?

Thank you

[Rocketboy0]

Bro Rocketboy. I thought most nights during the weekend will be crowded? I was thinking of going the afternoon session this weekend to avoid the crowd. Can you please kindly advise on why the crowd will not be too big this weekend?Thank youCripey I never meant to kick up such a shit storm on this evening crowd thing. And yes Tan123, Fri-Sat are the busiest of the week, somewhat predictably as with all clubs.

So to try to be clear. It's just a normal weekend. It will be more crowded towards 23:00, but not unbearably so. You might have to wait a few minutes to get a room, and the hot items will be in demand. But it is really not a big deal, certainly not a deal breaker. The few days per year when there are large Messes (conventions) in Berlin can be a bit much, but none of this applies now.

Admittedly "crowded" is a subjective thing. I understand some who like the very chilled day atmosphere. For those who have their favorites whom they know are on the leaner day shift, it is nice. But if you are just an occasional visitor, the choices go up really by a factor of 5+ as of 20:00. As markets do, when there is more supply, there is more demand.

All I can say is, I am not especially fond of crowds but I would never hesitate for a second to go on a weekend evening-it actually has a nice buzz on when things are hopping. You can always chill downstairs at the pool side bar, or on the round pillows below the stairs, or in the lower cinema. Just go a little earlier, as Lord Magee also said in recent post. You will have 3 hours of optimal access, it will be more crowded 23:00-maybe 02:00, then start to thin out. Just synchronise your refractory interval. :cool:

[Angus Magee]

Cripey I never meant to kick up such a shit storm on this evening crowd thing. And yes Tan123, Fri-Sat are the busiest of the week, somewhat predictably as with all clubs.I think that there is a tendency amongst mongers to over think this whole thing. If you live in Berlin and have the luxury of choice this is quite understandable. If you are a visitor, go when you have time. Avoid the obvious really busy days / times and the really slow days / times. But I can tell you that I have had some real stinker sessions at times when everything should have been perfect. Likewise, I have had some great sessions at really bad times. That is the good thing about FKK bordellos, you never know what might happen. In trying to optimise your time figuring out just the right time to go you do sort of defeat the purpose of going.

In my ever so humble opinion.

AM

[Cryo73]

I think that there is a tendency amongst mongers to over think this whole thing. If you live in Berlin and have the luxury of choice this is quite understandable. If you are a visitor, go when you have time. Avoid the obvious really busy days / times and the really slow days / times. But I can tell you that I have had some real stinker sessions at times when everything should have been perfect. Likewise, I have had some great sessions at really bad times. That is the good thing about FKK bordellos, you never know what might happen. In trying to optimise your time figuring out just the right time to go you do sort of defeat the purpose of going.

In my ever so humble opinion.

AMOh man. I heard about "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance", but developing wisdom through mongering is a rare thing indeed. (*[/insert] chuckle smiley*) I never understood why scheming and planning leads to victory for some, and defeat for others.

AM, I don't mean to pry, but you're a brit living in Berlin on a permanent basis?

[Regnad]

I think that there is a tendency amongst mongers to over think this whole thing.Um, yup. Unless you're planning to schtupp 10 maidens or more, there is ALWAYS more than enough choice. (Pardonez moi, if I've left an umlaut off the you in "schtupp." My German is imperfect.)

I've been to Artemis twice (and many trips to Hessen clubs) and am almost always on premises by 14:00 and almost always gone by 22:00. My trips to Artemis were last Thursday (the 3rd) and this past Sunday (the 6th.) Both times I left with a smile on my face, before 21:00. Both times, I frolicked with three fabulous young women, leaving behind quite a few more that were certainly fetching enough to intrigue me and my little friend down below.

I've probably made 30 trips to various clubs over the last five years and have not yet once found any trouble emptying my wallet. Simply put, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHEN YOU GO. Actually, it does. I don't like crowds, so I avoid Fridays and Saturdays after 10.

[Dogger862]

This is my podium after 2 days passed to Artemis and after meeting 9 girls:

2) Dorine from Germany 29 whyear old blonde. A big strong girl with big tits and a few kg. Too but with graet service.

For me a great service also includes kisses with tongue and fingers in the pussy.

Bye ByeSdrumm, any more info on Dorine? Could it be my goddess from 2007 back again? (First I have seen her name or a variant of) mentioned since.

I spelt her name Dorean, but she was German, would have been about 25 then and tall, especially in her leopard skin boots.

Still the best session I have ever had, number 1 on my all time list. I wrote then (seems like I underestimated her age. My head was still spinning) :

"#1 Dorean, German 21-22. Platinum Blonde, killer body, firm tits, nice round arse. BBBJ / Mish / Doggy / Anal / COF. If you have not read my previous report, then I will repeat that Dorean is my best provider experience ever. Totally GFE, fun, attentive, creative. If I could do a Nigel from Spinal Tap. This one goes to 11 (out of 10). If I were kidnapped by terrorists and had to give 10 reasons to live one of them would be to spend another 30 minutes with Dorean. Look for the knee-high Leopard skin boots, they are her trademark and put her at about 180cm (5'11') when wearing them."

If she is still there, I may have to get back to Berlin at whatever cost to see her again!

Cheers

[Angus Magee]

AM, I don't mean to pry, but you're a brit living in Berlin on a permanent basis?Brit / Canadian and living here as permanently as I have ever lived anywhere which is to say, not very permanent. But I have been here a number of years now.

AM

[Galazy]

11/11/11.

I arrived at the club around 15. 30. There was a decent crowd in the bar and a good atmosphere. I took a walk around and had a look for some favourites but saw no one I had on my short list so I decided to try someone new. After chatting with a few girls I met the one I wanted to start my day with.

Malia from Romania

I'm not 100% on the name but I met this very pretty blonde in the bar. She has a beautiful face, cracking (but fake) tits and a tiny little school girl skirt. After a great conversation we headed upstairs and I had a fantastic time. She was lots of fun and after a great blowjob and loads of positions I finished with a massive orgasm. This was a great start to the day. €60 well spent.

After a sleep and a sauna it was time for round 2. Normally my tastes run to curvy, big-titted blondes but I decided to try something new. After a few circuits of the bar I had a chat with Cindy from Poland – small boobs, pretty face and quite skinny. We had a brief chat and headed upstairs.

Cindy from Poland

I had a good vibe with this little spinner (to use the porn vernacular) in the bar but it didn't transfer into a good session. She seemed uninterested and was vocal in complaining about changing positions but she gave great head and has a really tight pussy. I wouldn't repeat.

I had a great massage then went back upstairs looking for girl number 3 of the day. It was getting late and the bar was really jumping now – loads of girls aggressively hunting for trade. I spied a few potential targets and after making eye contact with a tall, well-stacked blonde she bounced towards me all smiles. Her opening line was 'Do you like Russian sex? ' I wanted to say 'No, I like to take my time' but I reckon she'd heard that line 100's of times over the years. We had a little chat then went up to a room.

Martha or Marsha from Moscow

I asked her name a few times but I'm not sure I caught it. This was a great session – nothing new just 30 minutes of hard, sweaty sex. It was my third session of the day so I was able to go long and hard. Great sex, great orgasm and a great girl.

I was pretty zapped after this session but after food (quite a tasty piece of fish) and a sauna I was good to go again.

I took a stroll into the main bar and saw a girl with a perfect arse bending over one of the chairs in the middle of the floor. It was lust at first sight so I made my way towards her. Just as I got to where she was sitting she stood up and headed for the stairs heading towards the wellness area. If her arse looked good bending over a chair it looked even better walking slowly downstairs. Shea headed for the kino and I followed her in. There was a couple really going at it in the back row adding to the soundtrack of the porn on the screen. She turned for the door and I stopped her and we had a nice chat and sat down in the front row of the kino. After a quick chat we agreed to start in the kino before heading to a room.

Antonia from Romania

After some kissing she opened my robe and started to work on my cock with her very talented mouth. This was an amazingly hot experience for me; the combination of her excellent blow job, the onscreen porn, the couple fucking a couple of feet from us and the public setting got me super hard. We quickly headed for one of the curtained off rooms near the gym and had a fantastic time. Unfortunately she had to take off her knee high red boots when we jumped onto the bed but we had a super time. She was very responsive and vocal and after a whole lot of positions I had my fourth orgasm of a great day. I paid her and tipped her well because I don't think I'll be back in Berlin for a while.

Wow. What a great day. 4 sessions. 3 of which were top class. What a place, what a time to be alive.

[Sdrumm]

Sdrumm, any more info on Dorine? Could it be my goddess from 2007 back again? (First I have seen her name or a variant of) mentioned since.

I spelt her name Dorean, but she was German, would have been about 25 then and tall, especially in her leopard skin boots.

Still the best session I have ever had, number 1 on my all time list. I wrote then (seems like I underestimated her age. My head was still spinning) :

"#1 Dorean, German 21-22. Platinum Blonde, killer body, firm tits, nice round arse. BBBJ / Mish / Doggy / Anal / COF. If you have not read my previous report, then I will repeat that Dorean is my best provider experience ever. Totally GFE, fun, attentive, creative. If I could do a Nigel from Spinal Tap. This one goes to 11 (out of 10). If I were kidnapped by terrorists and had to give 10 reasons to live one of them would be to spend another 30 minutes with Dorean. Look for the knee-high Leopard skin boots, they are her trademark and put her at about 180cm (5'11') when wearing them."

If she is still there, I may have to get back to Berlin at whatever cost to see her again!

CheersDorine told me that before coming to artemis had worked in two small clubs.

She has a tatoo on her right shoulder (if I remembre right a motorcycle)

I confirm that she said she had 29 years, and she is about 185 cm with boots.

[Peter Alan]

"no brainer" is the perfect answer, thanksSo, I went this weekend for the first time at an FKK. Interesting experience. I was fleeced a little by a girl whose name I don't remember. Berliner, short dark hair, said she's been working there since it opened. I say 'a little' because I let her do things in the heat of the moment I has no real interest in, for example her fingers up my arse. Having said that I could have been more insistent and I do remember thinking 'well, I've never tried this. Maybe I'm missing something' (I wasn't.). In any case I enjoyed the experience, even the session with that one. I think though that I felt more relaxed than excited, but relaxed is good. One thing I did learn. While I preferred to be downstairs near the pool most of the best girls were in the smoking bar on the ground floor.

I'm unsure if I'll return though. Nearly all the girls seemed quite young. I know that's the market but I have a daughter that age and really prefer women of a certain age. I don't suppose there's an FKK somewhere that caters for the mature market?

[Rocketboy0]

So, I went this weekend for the first time at an FKK. Interesting experience. ,, I know that's the market but I have a daughter that age and really prefer women of a certain age. I don't suppose there's an FKK somewhere that caters for the mature market?Peter. Artemis has IMHO changed over the years a bit and I find it less appealing for the same reason. I too prefer slightly older women. Late 20s early. Mid 30s. The private bordellos are the way to go, and if you scope out their various webpages, esp. Mon Rouge, KD, vanKampen, possibly Ritter (all links on Angus Magee blog) , you might find what you want. I think the choices are pretty compelling. There are some bordellos that specialize in women 40-50+, with some links via Berlin Intime. Not sure what you want.

[Regnad]

I'm unsure if I'll return though. Nearly all the girls seemed quite young. I know that's the market but I have a daughter that age and really prefer women of a certain age. I don't suppose there's an FKK somewhere that caters for the mature market?During my maiden voyage to Artemis a couple of weeks back, I enjoyed the company of a number of delightful companions in their late 20s, early 30s, to with: Nina of Czech Republic, Josephine of Germany, and Marketa of Czech Republic. These three, in fact, were much more fun than the younger women with whom I spent time.

[Kimino]

. and Marketa of Czech Republic.Can anyone give me precise info on how to recognize this girl and what she looks like.

I'm probably the only one on earth that never sessioned with her.

Actually I vaguely remember having a session with her and her friend Esther (which instead I remember very clearly and wish she would show up more frequently.) , but maybe it wasn't Marketa.

Kimino

[Macca 74]

Can anyone give me precise info on how to recognize this girl and what she looks like.I sessioned with her about nine months ago and thought she looked a bit like Britney Spears from a few years back.

Maybe that's just me, though.

[Angus Magee]

Can anyone give me precise info on how to recognize this girl and what she looks like.Just look for a blond on the stairs. She is usually either going up or coming down. ;)

[Kimino]

Just look for a blond on the stairs. She is usually either going up or coming down. ;)Think I got it.

Small girl, blonde long hair, blue eyes, walking around like a real pro (usually carrying a towel) , absolutely cute. Don't know why but thought she was Polish.

I'm probably wrong but I was perceiving her as being too small and gentle to be a PSE and at the same time too cold and pro to be a GFE.

Kimino

[DkFatBastard]

Hi Kimino.

If you find Marketa and want to bring her in a good mood tell her she looks fit like a football player. Trust me it works like a charm :-D.


Think I got it.

Small girl, blonde long hair, blue eyes, walking around like a real pro (usually carrying a towel) , absolutely cute. Don't know why but thought she was Polish.

I'm probably wrong but I was perceiving her as being too small and gentle to be a PSE and at the same time too cold and pro to be a GFE.

Kimino

[Angus Magee]

I'm probably wrong but I was perceiving her as being too small and gentle to be a PSE and at the same time too cold and pro to be a GFE.Well Marketa definitely has something because when she is working she is up and down the stairs with frightening regularity. Myself, I got off to a bad start with her the night I met her. I wanted at least a minimum of faux romance and suggested we chat for 5 minutes before hitting the sheets. Her reply was "Zimmer now-or nothing".

I chose nothing.

As to her looks-I would say that she looks a bit like Farah Fawcett when Farah was a babe. If you were to soften out Ms Fawcett's features and give her a less angular look Marketa could be a ringer.

AM

[Toscana]

Well Marketa definitely has something because when she is working she is up and down the stairs with frightening regularity. Myself, I got off to a bad start with her the night I met her. I wanted at least a minimum of faux romance and suggested we chat for 5 minutes before hitting the sheets. Her reply was "Zimmer now-or nothing".I timed her over three days. She gives you three minutes. With 5 you're just too demanding! That said, she's gives a great session, and looks great. That smile lights up the club.

[The Cane]

Just look for a blond on the stairs. She is usually either going up or coming down. ;)AM that is hilariously funny to me but so true! When I first reported on Marketa, I noted how she was screwing EVERYBODY in the club. Actually, I'm sure it's more like everybody was wanting to screw her given her good looks plus her normally favorable reviews here. Also, I think she's actually far prettier than Farrah was. Like you indicate, Farrah has a "harder" and more angular face. Marketa's face is far more attractive in my opinion. And that little round heiney OMG! And hell, with the kind of business she eerrr "takes in", I suppose she hardly has 5 minutes to give. Seems it only takes her a few minutes less than that to be climbing those stairs again!

There has been one subpar review of Marketa here that I recall reading, which led me to raise the possibility of her getting "fucked out". Apparently she is still going fairly strong. And yes Kimino she is a small girl isn't she? Surprised me too with her powerful porn star performance. There was some talk here recently of a German girl who goes by "Lynn". Those who know her will acknowledge that she is a tall, bigger, attractive girl with a nice BIG but shapely ass. Now Lynn with her big ass can't take me in her butt, but I was SHOCKED when little Marketa said she could. And she did too. I mean it was difficult to penetrate her anal orifice, but once I did I was stroking it to her nuts deep! And she can come with a porno princess potty mouth to boot! Highly recommended. And I fucked the dark-haired Czech girl she was hanging out with too (don't remember her name but was another porn star performance!). Czechs and Poles fuck mongers the best in Europe. Or, at least they do this monger! Hehehe!

[Regnad]

I timed her over three days. She gives you three minutes. With 5 you're just too demanding! That said, she's gives a great session, and looks great. That smile lights up the club.
Well Marketa definitely has something because when she is working she is up and down the stairs with frightening regularity. Myself, I got off to a bad start with her the night I met her. I wanted at least a minimum of faux romance and suggested we chat for 5 minutes before hitting the sheets. Her reply was "Zimmer now-or nothing".I guess that's another advantage of daytime play. We spoke at the bar for 10 minutes-ish and played upstairs for near the full 30.

Or maybe I'm just Oliver Charming.

[Kimino]

After all the fuss about Marketa I went up to a petite blonde, very cute, usually walking up and down the stairs and vaguely remembering young Britney, just to find out she was not Marketa but Maya. I already sessioned with her a long time ago. Polish, friend of Violetta (that I erroneously called Veronica in a previous report, WTF!).

Think she has a lot of reports on this thread, anyways, a great girl. Her body is very fit and she performs very well. A plain vanilla session (money wise) that I really enjoyed. Must repeat, recommended.

This happened immediately after I entered Artemis telling myself that to have better quality you must go to apartments etc. Etc.

Went out for dinner and when I came back my eyes fell on a very cute "new" girl. Long brown hair. 2 angel wings just above her ass, blue eyes. Looks younger than her age. 24.

Natalia, Polish. Another very nice and sweet girl.

Must repeat, recommended.

Apart from this, a very normal evening. At 6 when I entered it was quite calm but things changed later on. Nothin to notice.

Manuela is back.

Tomorrow I'll probably visit Royal and Vk.

Kimino

[Bearsk]

Sweet girl. I understand her breasts are now an official Czech national treasure.

On a recent visit, she came to chat with me after I had been with her friend, Fatima. There was some banter at the downstairs bar in Czech / Slovak after I declared "Ein Pause". Marketa took the challenge and managed to get the desired response with a slow HJ. She having got me as hard as a rock, then disappear upstairs. Was no where to be found. Fatima went and called her then returned to say Marketa had been called to the VIP room and suggested Fatima take care of me. She did and it may have been better the second time even though it was only an hour after the first.

The Hapsburgs have lot to answer for don't they.


I guess that's another advantage of daytime play. We spoke at the bar for 10 minutes-ish and played upstairs for near the full 30.

Or maybe I'm just Oliver Charming.

[Norjan]

Fatima went and called her then returned to say Marketa had been called to the VIP room and suggested Fatima take care of me.The VIP room? I must have missed that completely.

Where is it?

What does it take to get in there?

What are the benefits?

Norjan

[Pharisaer]

The VIP room? I must have missed that completely.

Where is it?

What does it take to get in there?

What are the benefits?You'll find the VIP suite on the second floor.

Costs: afaik 200 Euros per hour and one bottle of champagne. Girls not included.

Benefits: Whirlpool, private bathroom, a large bed.

pics (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.163593233698979.36958.163566507034985&type=1)

[Kimino]

Lingerie day. Arrived there around 8pm I think, checked in, sessioned with a girl, dinner out and then back for another session.

The place was not crowded but there was quite a lot of people around. A girl was making a small birthday party and the girls had fun and danced a lot especially from 3am onwards.

Lineup was good. After having visited some bordellos in during the day, I must say that, on average, Artemis lineup is usually the best you can get. Some can say there's lack of variety but still the level is very high and matches exactly my tastes.

What thrills me in the apartments is not knowing what will appear next in the parade, having to take a decision very quickly, etc. Etc. But it's a fact that the nicest girls I ever saw in Berlin where at Artemis, period.

Problem is that after staying there for about an hour, you get used to the girls and they all start looking alike, but a gesture or a smile can change things quickly.

Anyway, I picked Kathleen, german, long blonde hair, very light make up, Chinese tattoos on her back. Usually sits at the videogames or at the corner of the bar (where the Polish girls usually stay). Vary rarely she walks around. About one year I didn't go with her.

1 hr of great sex and real sweetness. I always enjoy her company and I recommend her, although she can be kind of a beast or cold as ice if you don't treat her correctly and gently.

Then I picked up Ivy, don't know why but she kinds of make me shy in some way. She is so beautiful and never smiling when she walks around, the total opposite of when she is in the room. I already spent some time with her in the past but didn't actualy remember.

She is very tall, long straight black hair, blue eyes, looks very very young, she is 22. From Berlin / Hamburg can't remember.

I absolutely recommend the girl, it's very nice to have sex with her but also to talk to.

Will repeat.

Kimino

[Angus Magee]

Sort of off the topic but after watching this I though they really should hire Chef Ramsey as cook at Artemis. At the very least a cooking evening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIesCd4I4hU

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

Sort of off the topic but after watching this I though they really should hire Chef Ramsey as cook at Artemis. At the very least a cooking evening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIesCd4I4hU

AMHilarious,

"open up the legs, two beautiful tights. Push your fingers in there, nice and moisture."

[Nebula2001]

After a 2 week break and having missed Signore Kimino's visit, I have finally returned to the mothership today at around 6 PM. Artemis is certainly back to its usual pomp. Between 6 and 8pm, and then after 10 pm (which I call pre-dinner and post-dinner waves respectively) it got quite crowded with mongers. And despite the volume of trade, there was never a lack of beautiful girls around during my stay till 1 am.

I have also seen a few posters about a "Porno Show" on December 15th in Artemis. It's not exactly my kind of thing, but I'm sure it may be interesting to some.

P.S. I will also try to spend my Sunday afternoon+evening in Artemis this week. I have two weeks' worth of mongering to catch up with!

[Kimino]

After a 2 week break and having missed Signore Kimino's visit,Ciao Nebula!

I did saw Adelina and the greek? Girl walking around in despair for you not being there, you know who I'm talking about do you?
:)

Please elaborate on the Porno thing of the 15th, what's it about? It's a very interesting date.

Ciao!

[edit] "all" the info on the pornoshow stuff is on the site, still under construction but almost finished.

[Dealdo]

Hey guys, I'm back to Berlin for my last day, I will go to Artemis today, anybody wants to join?

Send me PM or so.

Yo Kimino I saw you were fking anything on you target. =) good for you bro, sorry about the bad luck with the BBBJ. Sht happens anywhere and all the time.

You guys don't believe it but I don't know the famous Marketa! Demm I hope I can hook her up today, that's what it happen when we don't do our homework, I was so lazy to read all the FFK reports. Fck and I'm a very good friend with Fatima, I could have asked her about the Super star, Czech girls drive me insane for real.

I will report if there is any news.

[Angus Magee]

Fck and I'm a very good friend with Fatima,I would ask her. Might put you in the dog house but I am sure you can bounce back from that. What about a threesome?

AM

[Norjan]

Work brought me to Berlin for Wednesday and Thursday, Berlin brought me to Artemis.

Arrived in a taxi this time and was dropped off only meters from the entrance. Very nice to enter all relaxed and with a normal heart beat.

Heart rate went up pretty quickly once inside thou, but in a good way. A lot of girls were around, I was hoping to find Jasmine who I had a good time with before or Veronica, a girl I thought would suit me (blonde, blue eyes) but had'nt tried before.

Found Jasmine by the gaming machines as she had never left in a year. Too bad thou a year hadn't made her any good. Not attractive to me anymore, a real shame.

Didn't found Veronica but did, in order:

1 Mika, Maica or something? Blonde, blue eyes, natural B- (maybe C) cups. Very good blow job, then doggy style with her facing the mirror with great eye-contact. Ended with COB / COF. At first I thought this was Marketa, anyone could confirm name? She spoke very good english.

2 Fatima, very sweet girl but small tits, fantastic legs in black stay-ups, very cute face. Cowgirl and reverse cowgirl for about twenty minutes, then finished in doggy and and COB.

3 Ella, amazing woman, blonde, blue eyes, curvy body, perfect silicone tits, a little bit older than the girls I normaly like. Very good blowjob, doggy for about 15 minutes, then missionary, then doggy again and then COB.

Thanks Angus for the tip about the slippers, grabbed my ordinary size (EU 43) but remembered your words, placed them in the shelve again and went up one size, fitted pefect.

Also took a taxi back but this time the driver (turkish) got sick, started to sound very strange at the end of Kurfurstedamm. Asked him if he very sick but he couldn't answer and pulled over and I went out and in to a restaurant and told the staff that he was ill. They went out to check him and I kind of sneaked away with only a couple of hundred meters to my hotel. Hope he is alright.

One thing that I noticed in the evening, some girls had at least 10-15 customers in the 4 hours I was there, some girls had none. A thin girl with very good looking silicone tits, very long black hair in a pony tail, fish net "stockings" on fore arms and very big tattoos all over her back was very busy. Anybody know her name?

Another pretty girl was also very busy, looked very much like Mika / Maica but not that tall and with brown eyes, very "american girl next door-looking". Anybody know her name?

Norjan

[Pharisaer]

Mika, Maica or something? Blonde, blue eyes, natural B- (maybe C) cups.She's a native german speaker? Spell her name: "Meike".


A thin girl with very good looking silicone tits, very long black hair in a pony tail, fish net "stockings" on fore arms and very big tattoos all over her back was very busy. Anybody know her name?Native german speaker? Maybe Sunny.


Another pretty girl was also very busy, looked very much like Mika / Maica but not that tall and with brown eyes, very "american girl next door-looking". Anybody know her name?No idea, I'm sorry.

[Kimino]

I was hoping to find Jasmine who I had a good time with before or Veronica, a girl I thought would suit me (blonde, blue eyes) but had'nt tried before.Ciao Norjan, If it's the one I was talking about, it's Violetta not Veronica (sorry about that). She is on this page: http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?page_id=91&langswitch_lang=en And she was present Wednesday.

Allways very good looking and attractive, IMO.

Ciao

[Norjan]

She's a native german speaker? Spell her name: "Meike".

Native german speaker? Maybe Sunny.

No idea, I'm sorry.Yes, german speaker, probably her.

The dark-haired one, not attractive to me, tattoos piercing etc, just curious about how she could be so busy, must be because of the tits.

Norjan

[Norjan]

Ciao Norjan, If it's the one I was talking about, it's Violetta not Veronica (sorry about that). She is on this page:

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?page_id=91&langswitch_lang=en

And she was present Wednesday.

Allways very good looking and attractive, IMO.

CiaoYes it was the girl you mentioned, but didn't spot her, Thursday. Judging from the pictures, I probably would have liked her.

Why don't the girls wear name-tags? It would be a good thing.

Norjan

[Angus Magee]

Why don't the girls wear name-tags?Except on Dessous Day just where would you suggest they pin them. ;)

AM

[Norjan]

Except on Dessous Day just where would you suggest they pin them. .

AMAhh, you quick-witted one, now why didn't I thought of that?

I would suggest dog collar types, then it would be sexy too.

Norjan

[Pharisaer]

The dark-haired one, not attractive to me, tattoos piercing etc, just curious about how she could be so busy, must be because of the tits.Maybe. I'm not so much attracted by her tits, but by her laid back personality as well as her excellent blowjob skills.

[Dealdo]

I would ask her. Might put you in the dog house but I am sure you can bounce back from that. What about a threesome?

AMMr Magee. I wasn't lucky, I couldn't see Fatima but only ones in the whole night, Man she is being real popular, Of course she deserves it.

I saw her walking upstairs, wasn't able to talk to her at all. But well, I was busy as well. Being the last night I had to use the time before go back to the hotel to sleep a couple hours.

I got a couple "news" well, new to me, I haven't read the board completely but some pages back the fellow mongers haven't mention them.

Got there late, I couldn't make it before 10:00 pm like I had planed. So place was busy, but not madly busy, so people was having a good time with out the dog fighting of Fridays or Wednesdays. My German friends were late also so I stared looking for my first selection.

Is so nice when you can see a good number of cuties free. This time I spotted a very cute German girl, back hair. Blue eyes, very nice body, small puss and beautiful curves, slim but with nice curves. Her name is IBY? with the Latin I pronunciation in English could be E_bi She said something like that. She works when ever she can, she goes to college in the mornings.

Well, she is a hard bone to chew, I can see that, She is very picky and her mode is like the moon, so be cautious if you like her,

The good thing about my livid is that I can kind of mold my act to the girl, so make them feel better gives me more rewards, (sometimes) With Iby wasn't that easy but worked some. Of course we can't say was the best fck of my life but I certainly enjoyed her. She has this beautiful silky skin and soft curves that only looking at her on doggy compensated the 60, of course her moaning and acting also played part, but I can say she was all passion, you know kind of mechanical especially that she doesn't kiss, or at least she doesn't kiss me. And that turn could have turned me off but her lips are not her best future, so I didn't mind much. In resume. She is cute, young cute but not a perfect GFE. So I felt that I needed some freak act.

So after a break I saw Hilary and well there we go again. This time she wasn't as good as last but still being a warrior this girl. Always guaranties a good time. We talk some and jock a lot. She is fun but has some rivality with a lot of girls the Polish and the Romanians can't get along I guess,

I will send this again I'm at the airport and probably will shot off. I will continue

[Kimino]

This time I spotted a very cute German girl, back hair. Blue eyes, very nice body, small puss and beautiful curves, slim but with nice curves. Her name is IBY? with the Latin I pronunciation in English could be E_bi She said something like that. She works when ever she can, she goes to college in the mornings.Ciao Dealdo!

You are talking about Ivy. She is absolutely super cute, IMO. She walks around with a very severe face but in reality is a girl full of joy, although embarassingly young in the look (and age).

I sessioned with Ivy on Wednesday, I agree, maybe not the best of the sessions but I really enjoyed it and I will repeat.

Have fun!

Kimino

[Bearsk]

"Thanks Angus for the tip about the slippers, grabbed my ordinary size (EU 43) but remembered your words, placed them in the shelve again and went up one size, fitted perfect." Norjan


I am a 48, If I go up one size I am in the shower. I don't like the new slippers.

[Bearsk]

I trooped through for a very quick visit in early November.

Caught up with some old friends: Mary and Fatima.

Then PSE with Irish including extended A levels involving gloves and several condoms. She can take 3 fingers. Did not ask about fisting. Not really my deal.

New girl. Just turned 22 from NRW named Julene (? Spelling) has worked at Park Sauna. Blonde, perfect svelte body with B cups. Excellent young breasts. Perfect skin, nice smile and large floral tattoo over right buttock and back. Tats are generally not my deal but a a little chat and touch of the skin and hair and I was sold. Tight wet pussy, athletic, excellent eye contact. GFE.

Finished with a session off the Kino with Ruby, mature Hungarian with nice skin, slow start, frenetic finish with much dirty talk.

Notables present I would have likes TF but did not have time / energy for. Gabie, Marketa, Antonia, Soledad.

Two new girls on my fantasy list. Shanti. Skinny brunette with excellent face and dark eyes and Violet. Russian lives near Dortmund, new at club, brunette with blue eyes and excellent B / C cup breasts. Large pink nipples and elegant curve to her hips and arse.

Good luck, be safe, my friends.

[Dealdo]

Ciao Dealdo!

You are talking about Ivy. She is absolutely super cute, IMO. She walks around with a very severe face but in reality is a girl full of joy, although embarassingly young in the look (and age).

I sessioned with Ivy on Wednesday, I agree, maybe not the best of the sessions but I really enjoyed it and I will repeat.

Have fun!

KiminoI will repeat with her too, =) I think we are talking about the same one, kind of tall (with high hills) skinny lips (not much lips but look cute on her face) 22 yr, beautiful eyes, silky dark flat hair and the whole package looks just gorgeous for my taste, is like fcking the snobby rich girl of your class. Which by the way are not that great in bed usually but fulfill the visual ego. I think the Germans have different sounds for the letters because she pronounced E-bee her name, romance languages also have the same pronunciation for the letters. Like U is not IU like in English, is like the sound of double o, Like U-bahs. So some English names they pronounce different than here. Anyways she has something that turn me on, and well, she is nicer now whit me so, sure I will repeat as soon I see her stuck up ass walking by.

Ah by the way, I have bad news for our oriental friends, she can't be whit them in bed, she said to me that she is not racist at all but in bed is a big turn off that she can't help.

Is just like a tip for our oriental fellows to not get rejected in a very rude way, because hell, she can be rude when she wants.

[Norjan]

"Thanks Angus for the tip about the slippers, grabbed my ordinary size (EU 43) but remembered your words, placed them in the shelve again and went up one size, fitted perfect." Norjan.

I am a 48, If I go up one size I am in the shower. I don't like the new slippers.Well don't shower too heavily, in that size of slippers, if you keep them on, you risk starting to float and that may result in a loss of balance, where you end up hurting your self.

Norjan

[Norjan]

She's a native german speaker? Spell her name: "Meike".Found her on the web site, actually it's "Maike".

True caucasian beauty.

Norjan

[Pharisaer]

Found her on the web site, actually it's "Maike".Hm. Looks like she lied to me. Maybe I should ask her again, but I don't like to chat with her. Argh.

[Dealdo]

Continuing...
One of the main parts of the mission was to find the so famous Marketa, but I guess we are not meant to meet. For the description I thought that I found her: Blond puff up hair, some resemblance to old actress Farah F. Incredibly beautiful breast etc, everything seam to fit the profile, but when I talked to her turned to be a girl from Hungary, her name is Audry, super nice girl with a nice braces-smile, By the way she was very busy all night also but was my last day so I didn't care much. She has this awesome body, whit two little cute dimples above her curvy ass (I have kind of a fetish for this dimples by the way) So I was real happy whit the confusion.

The action was amazing, she is so sweet and passionate. Just what I needed to go back to my hotel whit an smile ear to ear, like an idiot. =)

Her BJ is slow in the bigging and then start taking force at the same time that she jerks it off and moving the head and tong in circles. Was real goodd. Positions and a lot of kissing and all the rest of the acting. A total GF. She said I was the last one so I could managed to spend a very relaxed session and an after session nice chat whit her caressing that perfect smooth body.

For more information; She works one week and then take off 10 days to go to her country. So last Saturday was also her last day and she will come back in 10 days or so.

If somebody was whit her share something whit us, I would like to know if she is always good or I was just lucky that day.

Artemis I already miss you = (For that kind of money it has the best looking girls of the city. I can't say is the best of the world, I have been in places whit more beautiful girls in quantity, but are more expensive of course.

So for the comfort, installations, price and variety of cute good performers Artemis is the bomb.

[Pharisaer]

If somebody was whit her share something whit us, I would like to know if she is always good or I was just lucky that day.As far as I remember she's in Artemis since late winter 2011 (February / March). Audrey is a absolutely cute one, maybe one of the most attractive wimen in Artemis, very busy all the time. I've tried to chat with her sometimes, but she always asked for a Zimmer immediately. Sorry, I don't klick with her.

[Galazy]

Continuing.

If somebody was whit her share something whit us, I would like to know if she is always good or I was just lucky that day.I had an amazing time with Audrey earlier this year and I've been looking out for her every time I've been back. Her blonde hair, braces and brown eyes totally hypnotised me but I haven't been lucky enough to have a second session yet. She's right at the top of my repeat list.

[Pharisaer]

Just turned 22 from NRW named Julene (? Spelling) has worked at Parksauna Lohmar.There are very few girls from Park Sauna, I've chatted with a girl named "Jolina" from Lohmar at the end of October. Maybe she's it.

[Dealdo]

I had an amazing time with Audrey earlier this year and I've been looking out for her every time I've been back. Her blonde hair, braces and brown eyes totally hypnotised me but I haven't been lucky enough to have a second session yet. She's right at the top of my repeat list.Too bad bro, You maybe are in town the days she take off to Hungary then. Probably asking in the forum if she is around before book the flight. She said that Saturday is always her last day of work.


As far as I remember she's in Artemis since late winter 2011 (February / March). Audrey is a absolutely cute one, maybe one of the most attractive wimen in Artemis, very busy all the time. I've tried to chat with her sometimes, but she always asked for a Zimmer immediately. Sorry, I don't klick with her.Totally agreed with you guys, she is absolutely gorgeous, So she is kind of new in the place.

Pharisaer, If you want to talk to her it will be real hard if you don't take her to the room right away. The busy girls are very hungry for money, and they want to make as much as possible. I would take her to the room, you will have to wait for one available anyways, so there on the waiting couch you can talk to her. Not the most appealing situation but is pretty much what you can get before she gets to know you and chat a little bit longer in the bar. Kind of like Maya, she is ALWAYS in a rush, but lat time she spent good time talking with me in my brake and I didn't even take her to the zimmer, I was in my recovery time.

Good luck dudes.

[Pharisaer]

Pharisaer, If you want to talk to her it will be real hard if you don't take her to the room right away.That's it. She don't like to chat with me longer than a minute or two, that's okay. There are somedays more than hundred men beside me.

She don't like to chat with me? That's one reason why I don't like to fuck her, that's okay too. There are somedays more than hundred girls beside her.


Good luck dudes.Thanks. Last weekend we talked each other: "Jo napot kivanok!" "Hello!"

[Dealdo]

Being in Germany had very little time to organize the reports and Internet wasn't that friendly with me. So now with more time I will move some Artemis reports that were misplaced in the Berlin board. Thanks to Bob Fr for pointing the mistake. It makes sense for the easy search to put them in the right place.

Copy Paste, go.

Same and new of the same.

Let's see if the internet this time works OK I already wrote 2 big reports and both of them fade away sudenly, Even in Charlottenburg the internet can be less than optimun but that is just something we have to live with it, pay cheap prices get cheap services I guess, and the internet cafes are not the best either, well, is for public acces, understandable.

Artemis:

Is not hard to guess it. This became my new home in Berlin.

Best days in my experience Thursdays and Saturdays. Mondays are too slow namy girls who don't live there are not present.

Wendays are packed. Even though the girls are not full naked they have lines and lines waiting for turn. Is hard core competition.

Most girls are nice but there are some stars that can ruin your day, especially if you make the line on those days, they are not that clean, no time even to take showers and they are tired and dry, so service usually is not that good.

My first recomendation there is Fatima, slim pretty Czeck girl (from Bratislava) , amazing body beautiful attitude, she delivers what she promises. No upsellings and no bad maners. In bed she is a real GF. Smells always good and she is classy. Love her. Even my friends say she is one the best, so she is constant.

Kimi: Sweden super blond girl. Amazing body perfect face, nice smile. Always busy and big waiting lines. I had to do her, she is one of the super stars I knew was a lotto but took the chance but not Wnsday, she was so busy and many horny guys where complaning about the worst service ever. I had her next day, I kind of booked her for the first service, we did it, she smelled so good and I was so horny, service was just OK, she likes toys and lonnnngg longg BJS awesome this. Action was kind of disappointing. She is like a bad gringa not too much of hot blood I would say. She doesn't even know how to kiss, But I wanted to be with a centerfold, she could be. So be carefull and expect some bad times probably, and a lot of upselling. I didn't fall for this but she is all about your credit cards.

I'm going to send this in case this machine shuts down and continue.

Continuation Artemis:

Cindy: Polish slim girl, blond nice chat but not that nice service, provably tired, but she seam to be in a rush and needed a lot of gel. So I can't tell, with me wasn't that great. Fake moaning, and an integrated cheap audio porno cd on: "oh yeah, oh yeah, fck me baby". What ever. I don't know but I just don't buy this. I'm not into that, but I know there some guys who dig it, So there she is.

Andrea? Demm forgot her name. Hungarian, very nice, not upselling brown skin, need a little bit of work out that cute body.

Hilary: WHAT an ANIMAL. She is great in the bed, just like a pornostar, (one of the good ones you know). Super wet BJ, viciuos girl. She lovesss sex and she does it in any way, her body is slim but hard, trim. Beautiful small firm tits. She devoured my mouth kissing me. Great time. Even at the end she begged for anal. (This could be a trick becuse is an extra charge you know) But I was so horny that I didn't give a sht. LOL all my blood was downstairs that the upper head could think at all. LOL. Those blue eyes sparkel in the room like snake eyes. Amazing girl. We spend a long time almost sleeping after sex I was exhausted, was great. Recommendable, I hope she is always like that.

Maribel from Rumania. She is pretty young very white skin. Fresh as it can be, nice sex but not memorable. She is kind of dumb though she has only two words, Yes and Thanks, kind of like a army Russian girl. Not that bright brain, doesn't make a good conversation. But in bed is OK, she is natural and try to please. Nice body though.

! MAYA! SOrry I got ecxited LOL. MAya Maya Maya. What a GOrgeous girl. My goshhh. She is the most perfect girl there in my opinion (A little bit too petite But is OK). She is a Blond, blue aqua eyes, perfect, perfect fit hard body girl from Poland. She has this exotic look, super sexy. She sees me and makes me horny right away. I wasn't sure. A day before she was super busy, in my politic I never do poppular girls in busy days, so we where teasing all day. She was hitting on me hard, I do not know why because she had a big line all day long. So I told her next day. Next day I wasn't sure either, my friend was with her and he said was terrible. Always talking and being negative about everything. But she is so demm hot, she saw me and call me. She was completely naked and she robbed her body agains mine, I lost control and took the risk. Small head has a mind of it's own.

Action was AweSOME. She attack me like a panter. What a beautiful body, perfect athletic body, perfect tan, so sexy mouth. We fck like the end of the world. All kind of positions, she scratched my back and pull me hard to bang her more. She moaned, screamed, trembled, was great.

So I don't understand girls, pros and non pros. They are unpredictable. So there is a big warning, she can be a bad egg and she said that she is not that patient, so you have to get her in her good mode. I treated her like a not hard to get girl and probably that's why she felt, who nows. As you guys know they are a mistery.

There are more. Most of them good providers, but not that awesome bodies so I forgot names. Good luck guys.

[Toxical]

Not much notice, I know, but have become free to visit Artemis tomorrow (Friday 25th). Which is my 60th birthday treat to myself. Some or all of the time between opening at 11am and about 5pm. Wish I could stay / go later but that's not possible and I may not get another chance. Any tips / suggestions, if there's time, would be welcome.

[Norjan]

The two latest reports of mine, (Palace and Artemis) I've been writing from my BlackBerry so I decided to keep them short.

Two similar things that really bothered me at Artemis on my visit last week.

1. I was standing just outside the stairs, by the girls safes, when one guy came down from a session with a girl and told her he had his money in the locker and went after it. He left the girl standing by the towels but had no hurry in coming back to her. He stayed in the changing room laughing and making loud-voiced jokes with his friends. The girl had to wait for at least five minutes, maybe more, before he came back and paid her and you could really see how sad it made her. The guy afterwards made a "high five" to one of his buddys.

2. One girl slipped when going from the stairs and in to the entrance of the changing room where they fetch towels. She were naked with only high heels and her purse. She landed on her right arm / hand and right buttock on the floor and probably it did'nt felt good. Two guys right behind her just looked at each other and laughed, none of them helped her up.

Just had to tell this.

Norjan

[Angus Magee]

Two similar things that really bothered me at Artemis on my visit last week.

Just had to tell this.

NorjanThanks Norjan. It is always good to remember that the girls are human and respect that. Most of the guys here do I think but there are plenty that go to Artemis who do not. Your story makes me want to set some gypsies on those asshats.

AM

[Norjan]

Thanks Norjan. It is always good to remember that the girls are human and respect that. Most of the guys here do I think but there are plenty that go to Artemis who do not. Your story makes me want to set some gypsies on those asshats.

AMSecurity should throw them out in the street naked but with Euro-bills attatched to their bodies and let them run the "walk of shame" at 04:00 AM when the S-bahn has stopped and the gipsy horde for sure is on the loose. I'd love to see those bastards end up ass-kicked, robbed and naked in the Berlin night.

Norjan

[Breadman]

1. I was standing just outside the stairs, by the girls safes, when one guy came down from a session with a girl and told her he had his money in the locker and went after it. He left the girl standing by the towels but had no hurry in coming back to her. He stayed in the changing room laughing and making loud-voiced jokes with his friends. The girl had to wait for at least five minutes, maybe more, before he came back and paid her and you could really see how sad it made her. The guy afterwards made a "high five" to one of his buddys.I've seen this happen at Oase all the time, guys go downstairs to grab cash out of their locker and take their time getting back to the girl.


2. One girl slipped when going from the stairs and in to the entrance of the changing room where they fetch towels. She were naked with only high heels and her purse. She landed on her right arm / hand and right buttock on the floor and probably it did'nt felt good. Two guys right behind her just looked at each other and laughed, none of them helped her up.This actually brought up a good memory from a few years past. Was at a small club with a winding staircase and a cute brunette fell and sprained her ankle severely. Came back to the club and she's just barely walking in an ace bandage and flip flops. Ended up asking her and another girl to do a duo and had to keep waiting for her to keep up. When we got to the staircase I could tell she was dreading the climb so I picked her up and carried her to the room. One of those great memories that led to even greater one's.

[Linus Van Pelt]

The two latest reports of mine, (Palace and Artemis) I've been writing from my BlackBerry so I decided to keep them short.

Two similar things that really bothered me at Artemis on my visit last week.That's one way to discern humans from beasts. Regardless of the context, one person can be good hearted or bad, it doesn't matter who is the other person and her job.

Ruthless and stupid beasts!

[Kimino]

The two latest reports of mine, (Palace and Artemis) I've been writing from my BlackBerry so I decided to keep them short.

Two similar things that really bothered me at Artemis on my visit last week.
I've seen this happen at Oase all the time.The good thing is that with such a bunch of subhumans hanging around it's so easy to shine!

Ciao

[Linga]

Last night visited Artemis. Plenty of girls some nice ones with super hot bodies. Picked a German girl, I think her name was Jaylene with itty bitty titties. Anyway, she kept insisting on anal so I went with that. But she only does anal in one position, cowgirl. After some cajoling I got her in missionary and came in her ass. No kissing not even LFK. 160 Euro.

Next Romanian chick with the name "Raj" tattoed on her shoulder. No kissing, some BBBJ, asked her to lick my balls but she declined. Fucking in multiple position but couldn't come and then came the upsell for CIM which I agreed for 110 Euro. She tried hard but at the end I had to jerk off in her mouth.

But both girls tried to avoid my touches and tried hard to keep me from licking their boobs or kiss them. Plenty of other girls approached me but I did not have a good feeling about them. Many came in duos asking for threesome. So, not so good experience. I was missing Club Globe of Switzerland where every session was hot.

This evening went to Royal for the first time. Super hot girls, wonderful GFE nice no pressure environment with beautiful clean rooms. I am not going back to Artemis with 90 Euro entrance and girls who rip you off.

[Kimino]

Next Romanian chick with the name "Raj" tattoed on her shoulder. No kissing, some BBBJ, asked her to lick my balls but she declined. Fucking in multiple position but couldn't come and then came the upsell for CIM which I agreed for 110 Euro. She tried hard but at the end I had to jerk off in her mouth.Ciao Linga.

No upselling there. It's 60euro for 30min + 50euro for cim. Allways been like this. Anal is +100euro.


This evening went to Royal for the first time. Super hot girls, wonderful GFE nice no pressure environment with beautiful clean rooms. I am not going back to Artemis with 90 Euro entrance and girls who rip you off.Entrance is 80Euro at Artemis (unless they raised the price very recently).

I also like Royal but saying that Artemis girls will rip you off is total bs IMO, and I feel it's a bit unfair to say this based on a single visit.

Ciaooo

[Dealdo]

Last night visited Artemis. Plenty of girls some nice ones with super hot bodies. Picked a German girl, I think her name was Jaylene with itty bitty titties. Anyway, she kept insisting on anal so I went with that. But she only does anal in one position, cowgirl. After some cajoling I got her in missionary and came in her ass. No kissing not even LFK. 160 Euro.

Next Romanian chick with the name "Raj" tattoed on her shoulder. No kissing, some BBBJ, asked her to lick my balls but she declined. Fucking in multiple position but couldn't come and then came the upsell for CIM which I agreed for 110 Euro. She tried hard but at the end I had to jerk off in her mouth.

But both girls tried to avoid my touches and tried hard to keep me from licking their boobs or kiss them. Plenty of other girls approached me but I did not have a good feeling about them. Many came in duos asking for threesome. So, not so good experience. I was missing Club Globe of Switzerland where every session was hot.

I am not going back to Artemis with 90 Euro entrance and girls who rip you off.I think you weren't lucky that's all. There are plenty of good providers at Artemis and cute also. But I can't say all of them are honest and nice. There are some bad apples as well, So do not give up and give them another try, if I were you, I would write the names of the good ones which have few good reviews here and go back with a lot ammunition.

Good hunting and better aim for the next one.

[Cryo73]

But both girls tried to avoid my touches and tried hard to keep me from licking their boobs or kiss them.Not licking boobs? That's weird. That's gotto be the most. Harmless thing (?)

C.

[Pharisaer]

I also like Royal but saying that Artemis girls will rip you off is total bs IMO, and I feel it's a bit unfair to say this based on a single visit.Not totally BS at all IMHO. Some of them try to rip you off, especially if you let them know you're a first timer in A. So did I, it was my very first Zimmer in A, and I was ripped off. Damage 110 Euro.


So do not give up and give them another try /// Good hunting and better aim for the next one.Agree.

[Kimino]

Not totally BS at all IMHO. Some of them try to rip you off, especially if you let them know you're a first timer in A. So did I, it was my very first Zimmer in A, and I was ripped off. Damage 110 Euro.

Agree.Don't know Pharisaer, I've been there a few times and never had the feeling to be ripped off, except maybe once a long time ago.

For sure letting know you are a newbie is not a good strategy.

I think it's all a matter of what they call "YMMV", which I had to look up on google to understand what it's all about, but it does make sense. :)

Ciao

[EtrnalFeminine]

I was in Berlin a couple weeks ago for my first mongering experience on the European continent.

This site had been an invaluable source of information during my planning, and I wish to give what little I can in return.

Prior to my trip, I had actually decided to restrict my visits to the apartment bordellos (KD and MonRouge) for the following reasons:

A) I did not wish to see, or be seen by, other punters.

Be) I expected the cleanliness level of the girls at FKK clubs to be suspect during the busy periods of the evenings.

See) I was more comfortable with a bordello setting, having had all my prior experiences in a certain legal establishment in Nevada.

Following is a description of how I ended up going to Artemis, and why I intend to stick exclusively with FKK clubs as long as I'm doing this stuff in Germany.

Also please note that when imparting criticism I will avoid naming the lady involved except for extreme cases (e. G, blatant rip-offs) ; in imparting praise I will of course be happy to provide more details. I do this because I do not want to injure the ladies who are providing a service for which I, personally, am exceedingly grateful.

1. Disaster at KD.

Tuesday 11:00.

Took the U-Bahn to Blissesstr. Did not want to take the 8 minute walk (my shoes were killing me) so I waited for the bus. It took the bus less than 2 minutes to get to the destination. Rang the bell, walked to the first floor, and was escorted by one of the girls to one of the first floor rooms. During the next 5 minutes or so, one after another, the girls enter the room to introduce themselves and then leave. Each girl took like 3 seconds to introduce herself. There were about 6 to 7 girls.

So I selected one of the girls for a 1 hour session, and was escorted upstairs.

Note, you have to leave the 1st floor apartment, climb the stairs, and enter the 2nd floor apartment. Not sure if anyone has ever run into another of the building occupants while following a barely-dressed girl upstairs.

Anyway, she offers me a shower and I took it. As the session got under way I realized that the room was way too warm, but I was already inside her so I did not say anything.

Also, I sensed zero sympathy from the girl; she was cold and aloof, and I frequently catch her gazing boredly out the window as I was doing her.

After I came in mish we cuddled a little. Then, since I had also requested an extra (that is, anal) we tried to get it on again.

I'm not sure what happened next or what was wrong with me. I think all of the things that were not perfect (the overheated room, the zero sympathy, etc.) converged on me and I just couldn't get going. After a long while making a bloody fool of myself, I gave up and just asked her to cuddle.

When the clock ran out (actually I think it was as much as 10 minutes before my time was up) , she got up without a word and walked across to the bathroom opposite. I took the opportunity to get dressed. After a while she came back in and we went back downstairs. She said goodbye standing outside the 1st floor apartment door, and I left the building.

I must mention that with the exception of ending the session without a word she was altogether quite polite afterwards. However in the service itself she had shown no initiative and no sympathy for me.

I walked back to the U-Bahn (aching feet be damned) feeling that my entire trip was fucked up. All that trouble and expense, and after so long, only to have a disastrous session. Worse, I thought there was something wrong with me.

So I resigned myself to spend the rest of my vacation (I had 4 more days left) on the Museum Insel.

(Note: The museum island was not too bad, actually. For those of you who have read the 2 greek epics and are familiar with the greek dramatists I strongly recommend a visit to the Altes Museum. Don't forget to pick up the audio guide near the coat check. BTW Pergamon is way overhyped).

2. Consolation at Artemis, Day 1.

Friday.

I have two days of vacation left.

I ran out of museums to go to. Also the people at the Bodes museum had the cheek to expect me to wait over an hour in the freezing cold for entry, so I asked for my money back. Fuck the portraits.

After an early lunch I decided I had nothing to lose by giving Artemis a chance.

I was kind of nervous though, with all the punters around, and I haven't been comfortable with community showers since my days living at a fraternity.

But what the hell, only two more days left.

I was at the front desk by 14:00.

The first thing I noticed were the naked girls standing around the safety lockers. The vision that stuck with me most was the rear view of a slim goddess with a pair of the most

Beautiful buttocks I ever saw, with a very nicely done lower back tattoo, walking from the locker rooms towards the 1st floor lounge. I forget the design of the tattoo, but it was somewhat circular and of moderate size, not at all like many of the large, wide span lower-back tattoos one often see.

My biggest regret: I did not ask her name, nor did I see her again that day as I kept a low profile in the non-smoking lounge on the lower floor.

2. 1 Ella.

After brushing off a few offers (I wanted to finish my sparkling water) I met Ella at the bottom of the stairs. I have read many good reviews about her, but am proud to say I did not give her the impression that I knew about her beforehand. In the room, as I embraced her, I felt her repond to my embrace. And I was glad to find out, there was nothing wrong with me. A little sympathy went a long way. Ella was kind and warm and I loved being with her. I was so grateful afterwards I blurted out some adolescent nonsense (I think I said 'Ella, you're nice' or some such thing).

Maybe I should stick with older, more experienced ladies in the future.

2. 2 Maria.

She came to me and I accepted her offer. I do not remember the specifics but my overall impression is that it was pleasant.

After Maria, I was starving but it was only 16:30 and the restaurant only opens at 18:00. However, at opening time I found all the dining room seats taken. Maybe it's just me but there is something surreal about the men and the working girls sitting at the same table having dinner. There was just something weird about it. As I could not find a place to sit, I placed my plate (filled with food) on top of the food counter, got dressed in the locker room, and checked out to get dinner.

At first I intended to get back to Artemis, say at 21:00, but I decided not to at the last minute as I was tired.

3. Consolation at Artemis, Day 2.

Saturday.

Went to the National Gallery (the one near the bridge) in the morning. Big mistake. It was so unbearably boring. I should have spent the morning shopping instead. Second mistake: many shops do not open on Sundays, so I missed my last shopping day.

Was at Artemis by 17:00.

I knew the drill.

3. 1 Thai lady.

She had a gorgeous face. My beef with her is that after taking me to the room, she left me there for about 5 minutes to fetch her purse. I HATE it when ladies leave me in the room alone after initiating a session. She made me gargle mouthwash, and also wiped me off with disinfectant wipe, only to discover a) that I don't like BJs (never have, never will) , and be) that I don't do DATY.

WTF she wasted half a bottle of mouthwash on me.

We started off cowgirl and finished off doggy. During doggy she reached back, put her hands on my balls, and started moving it as if I was a dildo. Her sharp fingernails scratched me.

3. 2 Mio.

Mio has a lovely face. She had these large circular earrings on and these killer boots with lots of straps. I say 'killer boots' because she gave me fair warning: she can kill someone with those boots. The session was pleasant but I did not come. I ended up giving her a massage and complimenting her on her beauty.

3. 3 Coco.

Coco is a very slim girl. I like slim girls with not too curvy hips, so when I saw her chatting with her friend in the smoky lounge I sat next to her and asked her for a session.

She speaks perfect German but does not know some english words like 'gently' or 'cuddle'. I needed to book her for 1 whole hour before I could come. After that I was certain it was physically impossible for me to do another session.

I left the club at 21:00, sadly with surplus cash.

I will try not to overbudget on my next trip.

4. Reflection.

4. 1 Condoms.

At this point I want to point out something curious.

More than one of the girls I was with had a way of applying condoms where they stretch the opening of the condom with two fingers from each hand, hold it over the dick, and then let is snap on. Well, this kind of hurts. It's like snapping on rubber bands. I find it bewildering that these girls, of all people, do not know the proper way of applying condoms. I wonder if anyone can enlighten me on the reason for this.

4. 2 FKK vs Bordellos.

With an FKK setting it is unlikely to have one's entire day fucked up by a single bad session. The cost of each session is not great, and the next pretty girl is just a couple steps away. Also the fact the most of the time the girl takes the initiative to interact with you indicates that she can at least tolerate the look of you.

[Rocketboy0]

I was in Berlin a couple weeks ago for my first mongering experience on the European continent.

With an FKK setting it is unlikely to have one's entire day fucked up by a single bad session. The cost of each session is not great, and the next pretty girl is just a couple steps away. Also the fact the most of the time the girl takes the initiative to interact with you indicates that she can at least tolerate the look of you.Well EF. What to say about all this? Sorry your feet were bugging you. On the condom snappin thing, I usually just put them on myself as I really know my penis, and my nails are much shorter than most women's. Most women are relieved and they can take a quick time out and check their sms's.

Session quality is a variable, unpredictable thing. More experienced women in the FKK setting would indeed seem in your case the way to go. But reading between the lines, it kind of sounds like you were having an off few days yourself? Maybe next time, take a little more time to chat, relax, feel the vibe, walk if you don't feel right, try to laugh a little. It does take a little practice. Maybe have a drink beforehand (outside Artms) to steady the ship? A good session really does depend on 2 people, not just her.

Ever since I arranged my lobotomy, I tell ya, my mood has been just the best. On the looks side of things. I just wear my Angus Magee mask so they all swoon upon sighting me. You can order from his website and avoid the silly custom charges I paid.

[Toscana]

On the looks side of things. I just wear my Angus Magee mask so they all swoon upon sighting me. You can order from his website and avoid the silly custom charges I paid.Yes, this is seriously good advice. Have you not noticed how similar all the men look? Not just the mask. Looked at the tits, the gut, the splayed feet? We're all at it now. And the girls love it, can't wait for you to room them.

[Cryo73]

Fuck the portraits.Rofl. Reminds me of a taxi-ride I took to Monrouge. The stern taxidriver asks me if Norwegians are catholics and if I'm in Berlin to visit the many museums. My reply was something like; Sure, I'm here to penetrate deeply into the german culture.

I'm not sure he was too pleased with the answer. 8).

Anyway, don't expect too much, and things usually work out for the better.

Cheers,

C

[Bearsk]

Norjan.

Totally ghosh, inconsiderate behaviour.

Antonia recently fell over in the new boots near the swimming pool. Landed smack on her bum. I did assist. And offered to rub her bruised anatomy until it felt better, at no charge to her. She declined but then came for a mutual rub and chat at the base of the stairs.

There is something about a group mentality that makes some people impolite.

Makes gentleman like you look all the more impressive.

BSK.


The two latest reports of mine, (Palace and Artemis) I've been writing from my BlackBerry so I decided to keep them short.

Two similar things that really bothered me at Artemis on my visit last week.

1. I was standing just outside the stairs, by the girls safes, when one guy came down from a session with a girl and told her he had his money in the locker and went after it. He left the girl standing by the towels but had no hurry in coming back to her. He stayed in the changing room laughing and making loud-voiced jokes with his friends. The girl had to wait for at least five minutes, maybe more, before he came back and paid her and you could really see how sad it made her. The guy afterwards made a "high five" to one of his buddys.

2. One girl slipped when going from the stairs and in to the entrance of the changing room where they fetch towels. She were naked with only high heels and her purse. She landed on her right arm / hand and right buttock on the floor and probably it did'nt felt good. Two guys right behind her just looked at each other and laughed, none of them helped her up.

Just had to tell this.

Norjan

[ArtemisVisit]

Hi guys, thanks for this invaluable thread.

Any girls you can reccomend with an hourglass body, perfect tits, like this babe?

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[Pharisaer]

Anything special going on this week to avoid (e. G. Fruit / fish festival)?Nothing special this week. Business as usual.

[Norjan]

Norjan.

Totally ghosh, inconsiderate behaviour.

Antonia recently fell over in the new boots near the swimming pool. Landed smack on her bum. I did assist. And offered to rub her bruised anatomy until it felt better, at no charge to her. She declined but then came for a mutual rub and chat at the base of the stairs.

There is something about a group mentality that makes some people impolite.

Makes gentleman like you look all the more impressive.

BSK. (Impressive, that's the word Fatima used about my skills in bed).

Antonia, you forgot to offer her a lollipop.

Norjan

[Jongraham]

While the girls on Artemis's site are all very pretty, it seems few have large boobs. Any suggestions to a boob lover? I plan to be there next week!

[Angus Magee]

While the girls on Artemis's site are all very pretty, it seems few have large boobs. Any suggestions to a boob lover? I plan to be there next week!No one specifically but go have a look. The pics on the homepage are not particularly representative of what the girls look like. As long as you are okay with silicon I think you will find some well endowed girls there.

AM

[Rocketboy0]

While the girls on Artemis's site are all very pretty, it seems few have large boobs. Any suggestions to a boob lover? I plan to be there next week!
Well, a stroll down Art's Mammery Lane would include:

Jenna, blond, German, late 20, very very nice.
Sunny, black hair, early 20s, lots of tats, fishnet stockings, don't know, but got some good reports,
Ruby, dark brunnette, Hungarian. 30s we don't click unfortunately, very business like.
Eva, blond German, no kissing. 20s, has a fishnet halter top but she's sexy.
Shelby tall black hair and Luzia short, blond if they are there, Czech, early 20s, very nice.
Natalie, black hair, mid 20s, Bulgarian, very nice.
Marketa, Shiva, maybe not as big, but well proportioned for their diminutive body size.

There are some others with gimundous, ridiculous (IMHO) scarey, engineered boobs that may well double as anti-aircraft guns.

You can always ask at the upstairs bar for the bar maids to point out who is who if you have trouble locating. No way to know who will be there on a given night, but you can also ring say around 20:00 and ask, if that is an issue, as most of the above are on evening shift. That should keep your hands busy.

[Pharisaer]

Jenna. Blond, German, late 20, very very nice.Yeah. Slim body, very very large boobs. Unfortunately no chance to meet her next week. She will leave A this weekend. She's going to pimp her breasts again and will be back in 2012.

[Angus Magee]

Yeah. Slim body, very very large boobs. Unfortunately no chance to meet her next week. She will leave A this weekend. She's going to pimp her breasts again and will be back in 2012.A picture of Jenna from the erotic messa. She is the one standing on the guy's right with the leopard print dress.

AM

[Sucker17]

Rofl. Reminds me of a taxi-ride I took to Monrouge. The stern taxidriver asks me if Norwegians are catholics and if I'm in Berlin to visit the many museums. My reply was something like; Sure, I'm here to penetrate deeply into the german culture.

I'm not sure he was too pleased with the answer. 8).

Anyway, don't expect too much, and things usually work out for the better.

Cheers,

CHaha being a Norwegian myself, I had a laugh reading your comment. NO, we are not catholics, and NO there are other aspects of the german culture that is more memorable than some paintings on a wall!

[SuppenHuhn]

Jenna:70 F, her last working day is next Sunday, very good service, KFG 34, 1.62 m, http://www.lodderweiber.com/details.php?image_id=8046&mode=1

Katharina: German girl. 1,70. 1,75 m, big breasts, brown hair, medium Service, KFG ca. 36.

Talysa: Black hair, she comes from Egypt or Orient, now the biggest breasts in artemis, good service, big lips, hollow back, ca. 1,60 m.

Chiara: German / Poland, short hair, big tattoo on the back, small ca. 1,55-1, 60 m, good service.

[Norjan]

While the girls on Artemis's site are all very pretty, it seems few have large boobs. Any suggestions to a boob lover? I plan to be there next week!There were a a lady present on my last visit that had even bigger tits than Jenna. Dark hair, red corset. Loooked like it was footballs placed under her skin. Don't know her name. Actually looked like a cartoon.

Norjan

[Kimino]

There were a a lady present on my last visit that had even bigger tits than Jenna. Dark hair, red corset. Loooked like it was footballs placed under her skin. Don't know her name. Actually looked like a cartoon.

NorjanThere's a girl I saw many times, blonde, big boobs, big ass, and everything, enormous synthetic lips that makes her look a mix between miss piggy and a transvestite. I always wonder who would pay to go with a girl like that. But probably some do, and maybe she is the sweetest of the gang. I'll never know, for sure.

Kimino, officially starting the countdown for next Berlin visit.

[Rocketboy0]

There's a girl I saw many times, blonde, big boobs, big ass, and everything, enormous synthetic lips that makes her look a mix between miss piggy and a transvestite. I always wonder who would pay to go with a girl like that. But probably some do, and maybe she is the sweetest of the gang. I'll never know, for sure.Kimino, officially starting the countdown for next Berlin visit.She is known as Frankenstein Barbi, a product of serious engineering, gone awry. She may well be sweet, but some unknown things are better left unknown.

Kimino, all the girls of Berlin are abstaining til you arrive, so their hormone levels will be at their peak. I would make a (w)hore moan joke here, but the ISG thought police bans the word....

[ArtemisVisit]

Arrived tonight at 20:30. There were plenty of girls. 30 available and the rooms were mostly full. Most of the girls look like models, have nice skin, long legs, petite bodies, normal / small tits and firm but skinny asses. The thing is that I prefer more curves, rounded asses, larger tits and nice faces. Yet not fat, or too droopy or spread tits. In this League I saw approx 4-5 fuckable ladies. The rest were uninteresting for me beyond chatting.

The best place to scout the girls is in the ground floor staircase as stated before. I personally feel the whole naked girl experience is worth the 80e.

My first selection was Jasmine from germany. We never hit it off and there was really poor chemistry. I should have ended it at once. She toyed with my dick, with hands and mouth, bu that really did little for me. It took while to work up some wood. She gave a really unenthusiastic BJ. After that we grinded in various positions, but I was never close to cumming. In the end I gave up, and she was not very happy with that. She called me crazy, I payed her and moved on.

Face 7, Body 8, Performance 3. No repeat.

The next girl was Masha, from Russia. We clicked at once, and crashed in the sofas waiting for a room. We DFK and fondled each other, telling jokes and just fooling around. We entered the Safari room. Masha gave a great BJ with nice enthusiasm. Her pussy looks amazing, with nice extrovert symmetrical pussy lips. After the foreplay we shagged all over the bed. I could have gone for at least for the full hour, or saved myself for the next girl. However I unloaded inside of her.

Face 8, Body 9, Performance 9. Repeat.

I have to say the food was terrible. Other than that it is a really nice scene.

A note of warning to newcomers. Beware to read this entire thread. From the beginning I had great anticipation and hardy ons from reading this stuff. But in the end I became really acquainted with the routine. It can take some of the magic away. Artemis should not be read, it should be experienced.

[SuppenHuhn]

There's a girl I saw many times, blonde, big boobs, big ass, and everything, enormous synthetic lips that makes her look a mix between miss piggy and a transvestite. I always wonder who would pay to go with a girl like that. But probably some do, and maybe she is the sweetest of the gang. I'll never know, for sure.

Kimino, officially starting the countdown for next Berlin visit.That is Talysa!

Some pice on the website:

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?page_id=91&langswitch_lang=de

[Pharisaer]

She is known as Frankenstein BarbiOr known as Nicky from Hungary.

[Tors Ham]

There's a girl I saw many times, blonde, big boobs, big ass, and everything, enormous synthetic lips that makes her look a mix between miss piggy and a transvestite. I always wonder who would pay to go with a girl like that. But probably some do, and maybe she is the sweetest of the gang. I'll never know, for sure.

Kimino, officially starting the countdown for next Berlin visit.Have to check with U.

She got the left arm full with tattoos,

Well if that's the one I did here, and well she's not that bad, well above an average FKK session and a sweet girl.

Not much for repeating but I wouldn't mind doing here again and the lips looks damn god when she got something in her mouth, and she knows how to use them hehe.

[SuppenHuhn]

Or known as Nicky from Hungary.Yes the woman we search for is Nicky (not Talysa, sorry for my mistake)

I've not read exactly!

[Pharisaer]

I have to say the food was terrible.Food wasn't terrible. It was above Artemis average. Never call Artemis food terrible, if you haven't tasted Artemis beef patties.

[Serenda Lover]

Dear guys,

I have been in Artemis once and liked the girls and the atmosphere very much. I have been with a Turkish girl who was very passionate and friendly. Her name is Berna, bronze skin, black hair, tatoos on her back, big tities.

Altoug I am satisfied wih Artemis generally I would like to try other similar places. Are these kind of places existing around Berlin? Just the name would be enough, I know and do not want o disturb the thread for Artemis.

[Angus Magee]

Dear guys,

I have been in Artemis once and liked the girls and the atmosphere very much. I have been with a Turkish girl who was very passionate and friendly. Her name is Berna, bronze skin, black hair, tatoos on her back, big tities.

Altoug I am satisfied wih Artemis generally I would like to try other similar places. Are these kind of places existing around Berlin? Just the name would be enough, I know and do not want o disturb the thread for Artemis.Sorry, no other FKK in Berlin. Plenty of apartment bordellos, sex kinos, massage parlours, a couple of flat rate clubs and a gang bang club or two though. See the Berlin thread for more on all of this.

For other FKK action you will have to travel over to Frankfurt or Dusseldorf.

AM

[Serenda Lover]

Sorry, no other FKK in Berlin. Plenty of apartment bordellos, sex kinos, massage parlours, a couple of flat rate clubs and a gang bang club or two though. See the Berlin thread for more on all of this.

For other FKK action you will have to travel over to Frankfurt or Dusseldorf.

AMAngus Magee;

Thank you for the info. Just a last question; when I was in Artemis I met with a Russian girl. She is tall, has bronze skin, blue eyes, black long hair, almost 21-23 years old, great legs (she wore a black garter). Can you catch her name, or ca you recommend other Russian, Polis girls from Artemis.

Thanks.

[Angus Magee]

Angus Magee;

Thank you for the info. Just a last question; when I was in Artemis I met with a Russian girl. She is tall, has bronze skin, blue eyes, black long hair, almost 21-23 years old, great legs (she wore a black garter). Can you catch her name, or ca you recommend other Russian, Polis girls from Artemis.

Thanks.Sorry I am not so much up on the girls at the moment. Maybe someone else knows her? Charlie123?

AM

[Charlie 123]

Sorry I am not so much up on the girls at the moment. Maybe someone else knows her? Charlie123?

AMSorry, doesn't ring any bells with me. Perhaps the one that Kimino's friend fell for a few months ago? Kimino?

C

[Woof Woof]

. When I was in Artemis I met with a Russian girl. She is tall, has bronze skin, blue eyes, black long hair, almost 21-23 years old, great legs (she wore a black garter). Can you catch her name, or ca you recommend other Russian, Polis girls from Artemis.

Thanks.Description fits Valeria. She also has tats on her upper arm, no? Beautiful face and a supermodel chassis. She used to work at GT but has moved on to Artemis now. I first did her at GT. Restrictive service with no DATY allowed. So I cannot recommend.

I can however recommend another Russian beauty at Artemis and that's Belinda. Even taller than Valeria, gorgeous face, dark blond hair, supermodel looks and complete package in terms of service and personality. She can seem distant and detached in the bar area but if you establish a connection with her there, the rest of the time is bliss. High risk of addiction.

[Pharisaer]

Description fits Valeria. She also has tats on her upper arm, no? . Restrictive service with no DATY allowed. So I cannot recommend.Sweet tits like small pears. One tat on her upper left arm, kyrillic letters, didn't try to read. I agree, definitely no recommendation.

[Serenda Lover]

Description fits Valeria. She also has tats on her upper arm, no? Beautiful face and a supermodel chassis. She used to work at GT but has moved on to Artemis now. I first did her at GT. Restrictive service with no DATY allowed. So I cannot recommend.

I can however recommend another Russian beauty at Artemis and that's Belinda. Even taller than Valeria, gorgeous face, dark blond hair, supermodel looks and complete package in terms of service and personality. She can seem distant and detached in the bar area but if you establish a connection with her there, the rest of the time is bliss. High risk of addiction.Hello, Woof;

Thank you for the reply and recommendation. Yes it seems that she is Valeria. As I wrote; I only met with Valeria however did no go with her as she was busy. A friend of mine has also done her and he was satisfied, that was the reason I asked it. So I get it, I will stay away from here!

Do you have other Polish, Russian or Czech girls in your list to recommend from Artemis excluding Belinda, I will definitely try her.

[Serenda Lover]

Sorry, no other FKK in Berlin. Plenty of apartment bordellos, sex kinos, massage parlours, a couple of flat rate clubs and a gang bang club or two though. See the Berlin thread for more on all of this.

AMDear Angus,

Which FKK club is the closest one to Artemis altough it is not located in Berlin. I am in Berlin and would like to try another club than Artemis. I heard that there is a club in Leipzig.

Thanks.

[Rocketboy0]

Which FKK club is the closest one to Artemis altough it is not located in Berlin. I am in Berlin and would like to try another club than Artemis. I heard that there is a club in Leipzig. Thanks.

A driven man who will need to drive. Well the whole bloody country's FKK scene is mapped in several places, eg. Searching for isaw-db (dot) com / map_de. Html. Or FKK clubs Germany etc. There are extensive comments on all in the ISG threads, and surely the Frankfurt area is a target rich environment.

"Close" is a function of time and money. You could get a cheap flight to Frankfurt and do the big 3 Palace, Oase, World, or the newish but prob not as good Mainhattan or Sharks in Darmstadt, in slightly more time than driving to Leipzig for what will be underwhelming talent to be sure. Hamburg also has some options, as in the mythical Atlantis-though I have never been, no good reliable reviews.

There are some other Berlin options small FKK bars like La Folie, or the expensive Villa Bel Ami about 5 kms west of Artemis. The Bar Rouge in Mitte remains a mystery on the Forum.

But I mean if you just want great sex, a change of pace, and no hassles, hit the private bordellos in Berlin. Probably 50-100 ladies who would keep you busy. Not clear what is gained by all the stress, but such is the nature of obsessions. One man's obsession is another man*s good session. I would plow the lovely, affordable fields here in Berlin before I started running all over Deutschland or even the Globe of Zurich fame.

[Angus Magee]

In plainer English, do some reading and googling. And close is relative. There is nothing I would call close.

But a big quality FKK needs customers and lots of them. Thus the big clubs are near to places where these customers work and / or live. There may well be some small sauna clubs in smaller centers (Liepzig) but nothing on the scale of Artemis, Oase Palace et. al.

Really each of the major clubs are represented here on the board by a thread which is packed full of info.

[Kimino]

Sorry, doesn't ring any bells with me. Perhaps the one that Kimino's friend fell for a few months ago? Kimino?

COooopss, sorry about that, saw the message late!

Ciao Charlie. Yep, I do remember my friend saying something about a Russian girl, but.

Can hardly remember my friends name. Ahaha.

Best!

Kimino, counting. 10.

[London Traveller]

Plenty of girls on view this weekend at Artemis. My favourite flame told me that there were 120 girls in action (I didn't count) and that business was slow because of a shortage of locals. She also said that the customers who remained were not of the best quality. So she was pleased to see me! I found it difficult to branch out into uncharted territory but saw one new girl. A 28 year old Hungarian with mid-brown long hair and a nice curvy figure. Called, I think, Lynette (or something like this). She has only been at Artemis 3 months and provided an excellent GFE. I was lucky to find her as she came out of the girls locker room. I had to pick her up by the stairs. As soon as we entered the lounge together to sit on a sofa some other guy came up to her and tried to take her away from me! She has a number of very regular customers already, so she told me.

[Charlie 123]

Plenty of girls on view this weekend at Artemis. My favourite flame told me that there were 120 girls in action (I didn't count) and that business was slow because of a shortage of locals. She also said that the customers who remained were not of the best quality. So she was pleased to see me! I found it difficult to branch out into uncharted territory but saw one new girl. A 28 year old Hungarian with mid-brown long hair and a nice curvy figure. Called, I think, Lynette (or something like this). She has only been at Artemis 3 months and provided an excellent GFE. I was lucky to find her as she came out of the girls locker room. I had to pick her up by the stairs. As soon as we entered the lounge together to sit on a sofa some other guy came up to her and tried to take her away from me! She has a number of very regular customers already, so she told me.Lynette has beem at Artemis a lot longer than 3 months. I first went with her a year ago. Good performer, quite a dirty girl.

C

[Excess]

Lynette has beem at Artemis a lot longer than 3 months. I first went with her a year ago. Good performer, quite a dirty girl.

CI have always enjoyed how in the world of mongering descriptions and compliments are often the opposite in the "real world"."Quite a dirty girl" is a lovely example and has a certain, if you will excuse the expression,"ring" to it.

Excess.

[Member #4626]

I hope to hit the Artemis on Saturday (several factors permitting) and I've a question about the price of an hour long session with anal. So, an hour session where we have sex twice. Anal both times. Is the total price €220 (€120 for an hour plus €100 extra for anal) or €320 (€120 for an hour plus €200 extra for 2 anal sessions)?

Thank you.
Well anal is always tricky, if you are expecting 2x25 mins full anal and 10mins of rest. Just forget it, but ensure you don't get only 2x1min anal and pay 100€ for that. Years ago I got into this trap, she promise me anal but would only allow it for a few mins, I only paid 25 extra for it, that was in NRW so different prices.

I would agree with AM. 1 hour with anal should be 120+100 at Artemis.Last Wednesday I was at Artemis and my first session was with Daisy (a girl I knew from previous visits). In the room she asked me if I knew the price structure and although I said yes, she begun to explain it again.

Among other prices she mentioned anal 100eur, anal fingering 50eur (I said that I never heard of extra price for anal fingering, but she said that it is a new agreement between girls and the management?). I asked her if she likes anal or is it only for the extra money and how about the price for an hour anal with two pops. She said it will be 2x60 for 1 hour plus 100 for anal.

I am fan of anal but only if the girl also like it and therefor it is not something I do often. After a little DATY and then she giving me BBBJ, I asked her again if she mean it about liking anal and she said yes. After applying some lubricant we started anal right away and as it was my first session I came after 5-7 minuets. Then we chatted and cuddled for 7-10 minuets before she begun giving me BBBJ. Then we started with anal again and this time it was for at least 25 minuets with many positions until I came in a big orgasm.

So was it worth the 220eur? I would say definitely YES, as I could see that it wasn't painful for her and it seemed that she enjoyed it too.

About the price structure for one hour: As other members suggest, it is a good idea to ask the girl in advance, as the girls may have different understanding of the prices.

NB: I was at Artemis also Thursday and Friday. Will write a report as soon as I get some spare time.

[Charlie 123]

I have always enjoyed how in the world of mongering descriptions and compliments are often the opposite in the "real world"."Quite a dirty girl" is a lovely example and has a certain, if you will excuse the expression,"ring" to it.

Excess.Exactly.

We inhabit an upside-down twilight zone, where 'A really filthy slag' is about the highest compliment one could pay a girl.

C

[Bearsk]

. Where 'A really filthy slag' is about the highest compliment one could pay a girl.

CNot entirely in contra-distinction: nor the girl could pay a higher compliment to you, Charlie.

[London Traveller]

Lynette has beem at Artemis a lot longer than 3 months. I first went with her a year ago. Good performer, quite a dirty girl.

CWell, she told me that she had been there 3 months. Maybe the time has flown by really quickly! I can see that she is your type. Maybe not the best looker in the bar but a good performer in the room. With me I wouldn't say that she was 'dirty' but she was definitely enthusiastic.

[Angus Magee]

Exactly.

We inhabit an upside-down twilight zone, where 'A really filthy slag' is about the highest compliment one could pay a girl.

CThought this was a timely short comedic discusion on really dirty girls, other wise known as s l u t s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jaiMzLhliA

AM

[Euro100]

Thought this was a timely short comedic discusion on really dirty girls, other wise known as s l you t s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jaiMzLhliA

AMGuys, click on this link! This is some of the funniest stuff I have ever watched. It's almost like the guy can read my mind.

[Excess]

Exactly.

We inhabit an upside-down twilight zone, where 'A really filthy slag' is about the highest compliment one could pay a girl.

CAnd not to forget, also a genuine term of endearment. .

E.

[Skristel]

Hi

The Artmeis website is showing the Christmas meal / party to be on 16th Dec (this coming Friday). Does anybody know if this is correct?

Because for the last 4 years (of which I've attended 2) it's been on Saturday (never Friday)

Dam! If it's Friday because I arrive (from London) on Saturday morning.

[Angus Magee]

Hi

The Artmeis website is showing the Christmas meal / party to be on 16th Dec (this coming Friday). Does anybody know if this is correct?

Because for the last 4 years (of which I've attended 2) it's been on Saturday (never Friday)

Dam! If it's Friday because I arrive (from London) on Saturday morning.I would imagine if they made a mistake on their web page as to the date they would have figured it out by now. So I guess the party is on Friday. You could always call the front desk.

AM

[Member #4243]

Could someone let me know whether DEEP THROAT KISSING (DFK) is offered as standard by the girls at artemis assuming of course they are comfortable with you. As a guide at fkk oase DFK is virtually universally provided by the girls whereas at fkk palace some girls

do not at all. I am trying to figure out where artemis comes in here on this point? An hour in a room with no tongue action isn't all that great. From reading the forum extensively I cannot seem to find an answer. Thanks mohab

[Angus Magee]

Could someone let me know whether DEEP THROAT KISSING (DFK) is offered as standard by the girls at artemis assuming of course they are comfortable with you. As a guide at fkk oase DFK is virtually universally provided by the girls whereas at fkk palace some girls.

Do not at all. I am trying to figure out where artemis comes in here on this point? An hour in a room with no tongue action isn't all that great. From reading the forum extensively I cannot seem to find an answer. Thanks mohabOffered yes, but very much a YMMV thing. It is by no means standard and unless you clarify before heading to the room you are likely to be disappointed.

AM

[Didi Vise]

Not every girl is offering it, better ask before commiting.

From my experience the kisses gets better and more passionate in the second visit etc. Especially if the girl like you as a person.


Offered yes, but very much a YMMV thing. It is by no means standard and unless you clarify before heading to the room you are likely to be disappointed.

AM

[Rocketboy0]

Could someone let me know whether DEEP THROAT KISSING (DFK) is offered as standard by the girls at artemisMohab-I do believe you mean deep French kissing. Hence the F in the acronym. This is fairly standard at Artemis, though it is good to ask, perhaps toward the end of a friendly warm up chat.

Deep throat kissing is definitely not standard, and probably quite rare, not to mention difficult to do given the standard length of most tongues I know. Personally, I have never found gagging all that romantic or erotic, but to each his own.

[Pharisaer]

Mohab-I do believe you mean deep French kissing. This is fairly standard at Artemis, though it is good to ask, perhaps toward the end of a friendly warm up chat.IMHO Deep French Kissing isn't standard in Artemis yet. You should definitely ask (or try) before you enter the spiral stair with her.

[Skristel]

I would imagine if they made a mistake on their web page as to the date they would have figured it out by now. So I guess the party is on Friday. You could always call the front desk.

AMThanks Angus,

I called front desk. 16th is correct. I was really looking forward to the red-santa outfit party ambience and booked my trip 4 months in advance with that in mind. CAN'T WIN THEM ALL!

Do you know a Russian girl called Anna (8-9/10, slim, beautiful with porcelain skin / features) that used to work there? She was a nympho-beast in bed. I remember on one occasion she was champagned-up, we french kissed and she dysoned my throat / tongue (I loved it). Is she still there?

Are you or any other forum readers at Artemis on Saturday night (17th Dec)? (maybe say Hello, /hang out)

[Sucker17]

Could someone let me know whether DEEP THROAT KISSING (DFK) is offered as standard by the girls at artemis assuming of course they are comfortable with you. As a guide at fkk oase DFK is virtually universally provided by the girls whereas at fkk palace some girlsI am pretty sure that no girl offers Deep Throat Kissing, but however Deep French Kissing is more or less a standard in Artemis. I DFKed all girls I have been with, but I've always asked them before going up to zimmers. I once turned down a german girl because she didn't do DFK (had a BF). Ask beforehand to be sure if it is important to you.

[Member #4243]

Apologies I meant french kissing! Maybe I just invented a new sexual abbreviation deep throat kissing! LOL

[The Cane]

Apologies I meant french kissing! Maybe I just invented a new sexual abbreviation deep throat kissing! LOLOf all of the FKKs I have been to (six) , Oase has easily been the strongest when it comes to the girls doing DFK. Another reason why Oase is my favorite FKK. That said, this is not something that I usually bargain for before going to a room. It's something that I happen to enjoy so much more when it's just a spontaneous thing between me and the girl. It's so much more satisfying to me that way. I can't tell you how many of the girls (especially the ones at Oase) have just gone for it as soon as we're on the bed and stuck their tongues deep in my mouth! I wish more of the FKK girls would get into DFK in the general areas of the clubs before you go with them to a room, kinda like the Brazilian girls do. It helps to set the mood and the tone of the impending sexual encounter before you actually go to consummate the deed.

[Angus Magee]

Of all of the FKKs I have been to (six) , Oase has easily been the strongest when it comes to the girls doing DFK. Another reason why Oase is my favorite FKK. That said, this is not something that I usually bargain for before going to a room. It's something that I happen to enjoy so much more when it's just a spontaneous thing between me and the girl. It's so much more satisfying to me that way.I could not have said it better myself. Much as I like to kiss a girl to whom I am attracted, if it has to be negotiated, why bother? It does seem that there are many differing opinions as to whether or not DFK is "standard" or not at Artemis. From my point of view I will say again I do not think it is standard, nor should it be. When it happens, and it has happened for me with some regularity, it is so much sweeter.

AM

[Stevie69]

Actually, we might not want to hear this, but I have been told that for some girls DFK is not as kind a gesture as we would like to think. In their minds, given that they just had someone else's organ in their mouths, psychologically they are actually making you (us) giving head to some stranger. One, in Palace, AFTER a I turned her down, a girl tried to give me a "good-bye, maybe later" kiss, then when I smelled cum in her breath and pulled away. She gave me a smile and I knew what she was thinking.


Of all of the FKKs I have been to (six) , Oase has easily been the strongest when it comes to the girls doing DFK. Another reason why Oase is my favorite FKK. That said, this is not something that I usually bargain for before going to a room. It's something that I happen to enjoy so much more when it's just a spontaneous thing between me and the girl. It's so much more satisfying to me that way. I can't tell you how many of the girls (especially the ones at Oase) have just gone for it as soon as we're on the bed and stuck their tongues deep in my mouth! I wish more of the FKK girls would get into DFK in the general areas of the clubs before you go with them to a room, kinda like the Brazilian girls do. It helps to set the mood and the tone of the impending sexual encounter before you actually go to consummate the deed.

[Nille Copenhagen]

She also said that the customers who remained were not of the best quality. So she was pleased to see me!Hehe, what is that supposed to mean,

We always discuss the girls' quality based on their looks and services.

The girls are also rating us as bad and good quality,

So which type of guys are the best quality. LOL.

LT I supposed you are good quality meat. See you.

Nille

[Nille Copenhagen]

Actually, we might not want to hear this, but I have been told that for some girls DFK is not as kind a gesture as we would like to think. In their minds, given that they just had someone else's organ in their mouths, psychologically they are actually making you (us) giving head to some stranger. One, in Palace, AFTER a I turned her down, a girl tried to give me a "good-bye, maybe later" kiss, then when I smelled cum in her breath and pulled away. She gave me a smile and I knew what she was thinking.That is sick man,

Then I don't know how many countless dicks I've sucked by DFK the girls. LOL.

Does this applied to DATY too. LOL

[Toscana]

In their minds, given that they just had someone else's organ in their mouths, psychologically they are actually making you (us) giving head to some stranger. One, in Palace, AFTER a I turned her down, a girl tried to give me a "good-bye, maybe later" kiss, then when I smelled cum in her breath and pulled away. She gave me a smile and I knew what she was thinking.Well, generally, I don't think this is a common (cynical) attitude. Maybe at Palace. Ho-ho, here we go again. Must have been unpleasant, I agree, although it has never happened to me. Certainly among serious providers, who want to build a reputation and enjoy repeat customers, I think hygiene is something they always take seriously. And there are any number of good providers at Artemis.

That said, it is wise to be aware at Artemis, that among the bigger clubs at least there is a higher proportion of girls who do not offer kissing.

I understand where Angus and The Cane are coming from, but I myself know what I want from a session, after I've talked to the girl, and always clear my little peccadillos with her in advance. If the answer is no, or there is hesitation (does she look you in the eye when answering?) I simply pass politely. Downside: I've wasted some time. Upside: the girl knows what I am likely to appreciate and can react accordingly.

I don't think you lose much spontaneity. In fact it helps the girls in my opinion. Some say they don't know how to start a session with some guys and misunderstandings arise from ignorance where both in fact have good intentions. I don't really think this is negotiation.

Of course what really pisses you off is when they promise and then don't deliver. Happens seldom, which is one reason I love the FKKs.

[The Cane]

Actually, we might not want to hear this, but I have been told that for some girls DFK is not as kind a gesture as we would like to think. In their minds, given that they just had someone else's organ in their mouths, psychologically they are actually making you (us) giving head to some stranger. One, in Palace, AFTER a I turned her down, a girl tried to give me a "good-bye, maybe later" kiss, then when I smelled cum in her breath and pulled away. She gave me a smile and I knew what she was thinking.Most of the girls I am with will gargle and / or brush their teeth after a monger has spooged in their mouths. Of course, as Puta Playa noted in another thread, few will floss, leaving the prospect of several million squigglies remaining between the teeth and gums :/Hahaha!

Seriously though, as Toscana said, I don't think too many girls are into "spreading the love around" like that. And remember, what goes around comes around. We mongers have had puss and' booties in our mouths too! Which begs the question of how many of you mongers out there brush your teeth and / or gargle before / after a session I wonder?

Nowadays, I do gargle regularly when I'm on a mongering trip after I got ill following my very first Rio vacation. I actually got sick like on the very last day of the journey. Got back and had to take a week off of work to recover I was so sick! Came from deep kissin' on them tutes! Now with the regular gargling to kill germs, no more sickness caused by DFKing for years (talkin' cold / flu like symptoms).

[Kimino]

It was a very nice evening yesterday at Artemis. A couple of "pornstars" started performing 10/15 min shows every hour or so startng at around 11.

It wasn't for the show in itself but everybody was involved in this happening, and the general feeling on the club was marvelous. Lots of people around and some queue for the rooms.

Was happy to share this with Rocketboy, Charlie123 and Nebula. Great time with the gang.

This was a 2 day trip to Artemis for me. Lineup was very good. There's quite a few girls coming in from Hamburg lately.

Sessioned with Maya, Ivy, and another that I can't remember but all girls that have been reviewed lots of times.

Went with Natasha, twice, each time for an hour session.

Russian, Blonde casquette. GFE, very geisha style. I recommend and will repeat.

Karoline, from Hamburg. 21yr. Blonde, brown eyes a stunner.

Didn't know what to expect. She is a gentle and sweet girl. I recommend.

Not much to add.

Kimino

[Rocketboy0]

Well after a long period of self imposed exile, your humble reporter ventured back to Haus Artemis last night, really mostly to see Kimino and Charlie123. Bro's before Ho's. As luck would have it, it was indeed Porn Star night. There were 2 seriously engineered girls who gyrated around each other for several 15 min shows. They were, I as boob man would admit, somewhat sexy, and did some dildo things, and had inserted 5 meter long ribbons in their snatches, that select members of the audience could pull on in, a kind of reverse fishing sort of way. In the background was an announcer whose erotic, sensuous technique can be heard at any supermarket announcing specials, or a used car lot, or a German VolksFest.

Now, if you go to either of the kino rooms in Artemis, on any given day or night, you can watch all sorts of live sexual practices. So calling this spectacle "porn night" does require a certain leap of imagination. But as Kimino reports, the mood was one of bemusement uber alles.

On the part that really matters, this is of course a taste thing, and mine run to slightly older, curvy women. I have to say my months of staying away have not changed the situation (for me). My earlier comments about how the scene has shifted to young, waify, E- European types remain in force, and (again for me-who lives here, and has the time, and has his highly trained favorites) Artemis is just not the compelling "must" it once was. But duty calls so, I zimmed with a very attractive albeit young (RB has very strict rules and tastes than he throws immediately out the window when necessary) thin, German, dark haired girl Anna. I waited way over an hour for her to get free and it was a major project. But we did not click. Too many "can't touch" her gorgeous but freshly constructed breasts or can't do this or that, very business like, just no good vibe so I stopped midway through and said let's just bail on this. I do hate it when girls are in the game but probably should not be or at least wait a decent interval, post surgery. You can just hear the konto filling up. I was in no mood to just cum for the hell of it and decided to stand down.

While waiting for all this to get organized, I had been approached by another newbee, German, Holly, dark long hair, very pretty face, voluptuous, just RBs type but said I had already made a termin, but who knows maybe later. Luckily, later became sooner, she was free immediately as I came down the stairs and off we went. Very nice time. In addition to thrills and chills, Holly used to work at the mythical Bel Ami (see Berlin thread). She had some interesting stories of when it was in its hayday, but she prefers the most constant income and less pressure to drink scene at Artemis. The old Bel Ami management of sorts has indeed relocated to right beside Mon-Rouge and is still fixing that venue up. The more famous Bel Ami house had gone down hill for years, and will re-open as has been reported on the Berlin thread. We shall see.

Anyway, always great to see K and Charlie123 and it was particularly gratifying to listen to them try to explain, seasoned pros that they are, that during one of their Monger Safaris, they mistakenly entered a transvestite bar, that they only noticed was so, after some passage of time. Of course. Probably the massive, oddly shaped clitoris gave them a hint. (Just kidding they are heteros thru and thru in case their ever wives read this).

Nevertheless (and I know others will disagree) , I still find my select Berlin bordello stable more satisfying than the factory scene at Artemis, and it will be a long while before I return. K and I had a talk about sex-where you can have fun, quick orgasms with girls at Artemis, where it is of course pleasant, and then you hop up and prance down the stairs. But the whole atmosphere and more importantly the team does not lend itself to the real deal (yes yes IMHO, for me) , that feeling where 2 bodies are 1, where you just don't know where you end and she begins, and where afterwards, it is a massive emptying of the balls, where your body from head to toe seems to collapse and then rush out your shaft, to the point where the endorphins flow for a long time afterwards, walking is difficult, and you just float, lying next to a wondrous being who feels the same way. Yes amigos, that GFE thing. I just find it more than occasionally in the private bordellos and increasingly that is my destination of choice in Berlin.

Good holidays to one and all. RB out.

[EtrnalFeminine]

It's probably not a good idea to floss during a visit as flossing may cause minor gum bleeding; this is not something you want during a DFK.

Just light brushing and a gargle of listerine should do the trick.


Most of the girls I am with will gargle and / or brush their teeth after a monger has spooged in their mouths. Of course, as Puta Playa noted in another thread, few will floss, leaving the prospect of several million squigglies remaining between the teeth and gums :/Hahaha!

Seriously though, as Toscana said, I don't think too many girls are into "spreading the love around" like that. And remember, what goes around comes around. We mongers have had puss and' booties in our mouths too! Which begs the question of how many of you mongers out there brush your teeth and / or gargle before / after a session I wonder?

Nowadays, I do gargle regularly when I'm on a mongering trip after I got ill following my very first Rio vacation. I actually got sick like on the very last day of the journey. Got back and had to take a week off of work to recover I was so sick! Came from deep kissin' on them tutes! Now with the regular gargling to kill germs, no more sickness caused by DFKing for years (talkin' cold / flu like symptoms).

[Kimino]

Seriously though, as Toscana said, I don't think too many girls are into "spreading the love around" like that. And remember, what goes around comes around. We mongers have had puss and' booties in our mouths too! Which begs the question of how many of you mongers out there brush your teeth and / or gargle before / after a session I wonder?You are right. I always do that, just bring a small listerine bottle or whatever and keep it in the locker.

Kimino

[Member #4243]

To me an hour long session without dfk is like turkey without the trimmings or a nice steak and kidney pie without gravy; ie tasteless! During my last visit to oase late August not one girl did not kiss me and I did not have to ask for or initiate it. Hence my next spring

trip is looking more and more like back to the oase. For me personally I cannot fully connect with a beauty either mentally or physically without real kissing as it is for me a prerequisite to any GFE or pse. On the one rare occasion where a girl had hinted kisssing was

alright before we entered the room and then going back on that refusing to kiss I promised her that I would leave the room without paying and that even if she went to the management to complain about me not paying that I told her I would respond by telling her

and all those concerned where to stuff it! Normally this would have been a complete killer to any session but she told me that she found my threats not only hilarious but non threatening and that I was a unique case. She then proceeded to stick her tongue so far

down my mouth it was great. And while she was kissing me she kept stopping and erupting into uncontrolled laughter saying she had never met such a funny customer. Needless to say I gained permission to grab her hair tight and pounded one hard for the lufthansa

flight in which I had touched down earlier in. That is how I would personally turn around a session that looks likes its going nowhere by my double / triple bluff games. With regards to hygiene I always keep a freshen breath spray and a can of lynx dark temptation

deodarant spray in my locker in the superstitious belief it may actually have an effect on the girls. Funnily enough last time I had 5 different girls telling me how nice I smell. With regards to girls hygiene I always follow one simple rule. Regardless of how beautiful a

girl is or how immaculately turned out she is I always get close enough to smell her breath. Last time I turned down a really beautiful moldavian girl at oase because her breath smelt bad. Anyway hope that makes sense mohab

[Akibono]

To me an hour long session without dfk is like turkey without the trimmings or a nice steak and kidney pie without gravy; ie tasteless! During my last visit to oase late August not one girl did not kiss me and I did not have to ask for or initiate it. Hence my next spring.

Trip is looking more and more like back to the oase. For me personally I cannot fully connect with a beauty either mentally or physically without real kissing as it is for me a prerequisite to any GFE or pse. On the one rare occasion where a girl had hinted kisssing was.

Alright before we entered the room and then going back on that refusing to kiss I promised her that I would leave the room without paying and that even if she went to the management to complain about me not paying that I told her I would respond by telling her.

And all those concerned where to stuff it! Normally this would have been a complete killer to any session but she told me that she found my threats not only hilarious but non threatening and that I was a unique case. She then proceeded to stick her tongue so far.

Down my mouth it was great. And while she was kissing me she kept stopping and erupting into uncontrolled laughter saying she had never met such a funny customer. Needless to say I gained permission to grab her hair tight and pounded one hard for the lufthansa.

Flight in which I had touched down earlier in. That is how I would personally turn around a session that looks likes its going nowhere by my double / triple bluff games. With regards to hygiene I always keep a freshen breath spray and a can of lynx dark temptation.

Deodarant spray in my locker in the superstitious belief it may actually have an effect on the girls. Funnily enough last time I had 5 different girls telling me how nice I smell. With regards to girls hygiene I always follow one simple rule. Regardless of how beautiful a

Girl is or how immaculately turned out she is I always get close enough to smell her breath. Last time I turned down a really beautiful moldavian girl at oase because her breath smelt bad. Anyway hope that makes sense mohabHard to see how one can get a GFE with that type of attitude.

[Member #4243]

Well if a girl promises to do something and then on entering the room goes back on her word I find the best way to deal with such a situation is in an unorthadox manner. If she's doing that trick with me then doubtless she is repeating it with every other guy. Where.

Most customers would take the authoritarian stance ie you are wrong I am right and I will complain to the management my approach is to take a humane approach by letting her know that I do want what is promised and she won't get away with it or I will walk out.

However then going off on a completely unrelated humorous matter making her feel relaxed in the hope she will then swing around and start kissing as we agreed. Its a double bluff as she is expecting a standard response as she does from every guy she promises to do.

Something outside the room then only to go back on it. Luckily in the instance where it occured to me playing double bluff worked a treat as the girl found it funny whilst at the time a certain amount of respect was now mutually earnt from her to me so the session.

Thankfully went down a treat. How else do you act when cornered like that? Thankfully it is very rare in fkk!

[Breadman]

Well if a girl promises to do something and then on entering the room goes back on her word I find the best way to deal with such a situation is in an unorthadox manner. If she's doing that trick with me then doubtless she is repeating it with every other guy. Where.

Most customers would take the authoritarian stance ie you are wrong I am right and I will complain to the management my approach is to take a humane approach by letting her know that I do want what is promised and she won't get away with it or I will walk out.

However then going off on a completely unrelated humorous matter making her feel relaxed in the hope she will then swing around and start kissing as we agreed. Its a double bluff as she is expecting a standard response as she does from every guy she promises to do.You complain to management for rip off attempts, lack of service such as no sex, something that truely smacks as 'wrong'. Not kissing the way you expect her to kiss is a very minor matter. If you go to the front desk for a kissing issue you might end up ruining the rest of your day at the club, word will get around that you complained for something so minor. You want to make sure the girl kiss's to your standard, refuse to go to the room until she gives you one. If she insists only in the room then get one right before your about to walk into the room. If she refuses to kiss after your in the room, no mind game will get her to change her mind, she's already got your money.

[Member #4243]

In the instance that this happened to me it was oase last April. It was with a really beautiful blonde rumanian girl whose name I now forget. In my report of last April you will see some reference to her. In this situation we had been very comfortable with each other.

Outside of the room plenty of chemistry etc. We had to wait a good 40mins for a room on a busy sat night and during this time she basically told me her life story and all was well. I had made it very clear to her outside of the room that I thought she was very beautiful.

And that I really wanted to kiss during the session on top of the usual sexual stuff. She was very clear that this was no problem. 5 mins after entering the room the games started. No kissing I save that for my 50 year old partner who runs a big company whom I met at.

Oase and doesn't mind me doing this etc etc. I told her that she had promised with no reply. Following a little more talk I told her I was leaving because 1) she blatently lied to me and 2) I don't like to spend intimate time with a girl with no kissing. As I was about to leave.

The room (bearing in mind taking into account the time she had spent with me waiting for a room it was now nearly one hour) she stopped me and started laughing. She told me she had never met such a funny guy in an fkk and then passionately kissed me for an hour.

In the room in addition to the sexual intimacies. Are there any lessons to be learnt here?(in case anyone is wondering kissing is not my top reason for visiting an fkk i go to have sex with beautiful girls in a relaxed atmosphere however dfk is like the icing on the cake)

[Rocketboy0]

In the instance that this happened to me it was oase last April. Are there any lessons to be learnt here?(in case anyone is wondering kissing is not my top reasonOk this settles it. I wouldn't kiss any of you guys.

Now last I heard this was an Artemis forum. Who kissed who how at other FKKs-well, I shall wait for the movie. The subject of how useful it is, just before you zimmer, to have a signals check with a girl has been covered 1000 times. I believe it is time to move on, or take this up using PMs.

[Nille Copenhagen]

To me an hour long session without dfk is like turkey without the trimmings or a nice steak and kidney pie without gravy; ie tasteless!I don't understand why you are so fussy about DFK,

Don't you have a girlfriend to kiss?

You get nothing of out of the girl if she doesn't feel like kissing you.

Seduce her and let it comes naturally.

[Nebula2001]

My first question when I joined this forum almost a year ago was about the mysterious Artemis VIP room. I haven't yet booked that room (and am not planning to in the future.) But, here's a few pieces of information I've gathered over time. Beware that I haven't heard these directly from the management but from various girls over time and am probably misremembering parts of it.

* VIP room is a bigger than the regular Zimmers and features a bigger bed and a jacuzzi.

* You need to buy at least one bottle of champagne to able to use it.

* It costs 200EUR per hour excluding the usual rate you pay to the girl.

* And, (this is the part I find most hard to believe, but one girl was insistent about it whatever the reason) You can stay in the VIP room even after the closing hour of 5 AM, if the girl is willing.

As a side note, although I'm spending the holiday season in Berlin, I won't be able to visit Artemis for a few weeks due to medical reasons. So, I propose a ban on people posting mouth watering reports till January. (-:

[Nille Copenhagen]

* VIP room is a bigger than the regular Zimmers and features a bigger bed and a jacuzzi.

* You need to buy at least one bottle of champagne to able to use it.

* It costs 200EUR per hour excluding the usual rate you pay to the girl.

* And, (this is the part I find most hard to believe, but one girl was insistent about it whatever the reason) You can stay in the VIP room even after the closing hour of 5 AM, if the girl is willing.I can relate to these information, I've seen it.

There is ensuite toilet, sofa area and a small bar area.

The last point sounds reasonable if you pay the VIP room and the girl / girls so why not. You can sleep in there too if you want.