FKK Artemis - Berlin [Archive] - Page 16

Nedsprofhlp

06-18-12, 17:21

My thanks to all the gents who have posted here – I felt I knew the place before I even stepped through the door. This report is my attempt to pay you back. I was on a rare trip to Berlin (hadn't been there in years) and knew I had to check this place out. I have been to the Palace in Frankfurt a few times and the Living Room (Karst) once, so I already knew the FKK scene a little. But Artemis was a different place, and very glad I made it there. I had a free afternoon a couple of weeks ago, so I took advantage of it. Got off at the Westkreuz station, took the short walk and paid the entry fee. Got my robe, showered, lockered, etc. I arrived a little early in the day, about 12:30, and it was a Friday, so it was relatively quiet then, which was my plan – I wanted to get to know the place before it was heaving.

Checked the ground floor and lower floor and enjoyed the pool. Was approached by several lovelies, but was looking around for my first of the day. As usual, I am not so picky on my first one. I know I won't last long, and I don't really need the GFE, so I usually just pick a decent one to take the edge off, so to speak. I was checking out the Kino and surprised to see how small it was. (This is one of the few places where the Palace is superior. The Kino in Artemis is too small – makes you feel like you're right next to your neighbor.) I was waking out when I was approached by this buxom Thai lady from Bangkok named Pen. Was very nice looking, but I was not planning on doing an Asian while at an FKK. As usual, she offered 'massage', which I passed on. Was going to keep looking but when I saw her walk away I caught a look at her ass and found it very shapely, and the little head wanted to take the drivers seat. So when I saw her again a minute later I went up to her and asked about her services, did she kiss (yes) and what I heard sounded agreeable, so I suggested that we find a room. Her tits are fake, but her service was not bad (psuedo-GFE). She started a so-so massage while I started playing with her pussy, feeling her up, and she was making the right sounds. (EIther she was wet already, which seems highly unlikely, or she had already applied lube). She kissed, and I enjoyed her full and professionally done tits, and then done for some DATY. She did a nice BBBJ but wanted to pop in sex, so moved it along. Went at it mish and ended up in doggie. Very hot action! I popped hard. She cleaned me up and we talked some more. Was a very nice start!

Pen (Thai) : Looks 8, Service 6. 5.

I walked around some more and got some lunch, now that I had taken the edge off. Talked with some girls and honestly told them "Not now, maybe later". The lunch room is kind of funny – felt like the breakfast room at a student hostel. There was a big crowd of Italian men there and they took up a couple of tables. I noticed s strict segregation of women and men in the room (which I expected after reading this forum) and respected the girls' privacy. I noticed a tall brunette with short hair that I would talk to later but never went to the zimmer with (Leah is her name). After lunch she ran into me and we talked. When I asked she was upfront about the fact that she did not kiss, so I crossed her off my list, since I was looking for that at the time.

Laid out by the pool and that is where I ran into Marsha, a Russian blonde (with dark roots) who spoke French fairly well. (I don't speak German well enough, but pretend to prefer to speak french rather than english, as that throws them a little, and they don't assume so much what I am like.) I was not looking for a Russian blond (have had enough in the past) , but something made me decide to come along with Marsha to the kino. There we started making out while I fondled her ample breasts and she started a BBBJ there, so that was it. But I had no regrets over this, as she was lot of fun. FIrst, it was really hot to play with her in the kino, and I always get a little thrill when I get some action 'in public' like that. (The kino was fairly packed at the time.) But privacy was required to move further, so we found a nearby room and got to it. Her tits had very responsive nipples (I had tested them in the kino) and she was a good kisser. Her BJ was also top quality. Got suited up and we started our own little porno. Marsha knew how to act the part and she made all the right noises. It was a lot of fun and very hot. She has a nice bod. Not the best of the lot, but she knew how to use it. Ended up in doggy and pumped away until round 2 was over. She called me a 'sex machine' afterwards, which made me feel nice, even if it was just an act.

Marsha: Looks 7, Service 7. 5.

At this point, I knew I would need some down time to recover, so got an espresso, hit the pool, etc, and explored the place some more. I met this cute little Romanian with reddish hair named Antonia in the bar. I believe she has been mentioned here before. Her body was young and all natural. I speak a little Romanian, but not too much, so we spoke mainly in english (she didn't speak french). She was not pushy at all, but I told her that I would try to find her later when I was up to it. I went down to bar lower down and hit the sauna, then took a rest on the couches with a drink. I saw Antonia then and she waved, I waved her over. We started talking and although I had thought I was not recharged enough, just talking and lightly touching her already had me aroused, so I suggested we look for a room. Got a couple of mineralwassers from the bar and headed to the upstairs. I told Antonia I was looking for a long slow fuck and she smiled. She had this piercing right above her pussy that I had to be careful with, but she was OK with everything else. She is a very good kisser, long and slow and soft and passionate. And I loved her natural C-cup tits, very responsive nipples. Pussy was clean and smelled nice and I worked it for a while, and she really seemed appreciative. She was completely respecting my desire to make it slow and was not pushing anything at all, so I asked if we could extend it to an hour – I knew this was the one that was going to be special and she smiled her agreement. What ensued could almost be better described as lovemaking than fucking, was very tender and passionate. She could not do mish because of the piercing, so we spend most of our time in various versions of doggy and side saddle, spoon, etc. It was great, because she has such a nice ass. She seemed to be enjoying everything and we took several breaks to make out and for me to DATY some more. SHe was in no rush for me to come at all. But I did want to respect her time, so I kept track of it. When we were 10 minutes away from the end, I started making it more energetic and then eventually lost it. We talked some more about life and other things. This is one of the few times in a FKK where I felt that I had made a real connection. Gave her a nice tip at the end and one last kiss.

Antonia (Romanian) : Looks 7, Service 9. 5.

I knew at that point that I should probably just leave. I had had a great experience and the next one would surely be disappointing in comparison. But. I checked the time and I had only been there 4. 5 hours. And I did not have to leave for another 2 hours or so. Besides, I could just relax in the sauna / pool, get a drink and enjoy the eye candy, right? Right.

So I stayed and told many girls that I was spent and just hung out for another hour. Then I thought to myself that if I went for a GFE, I surely would be disappointed. But what about a pure opticfuck? I mean, this was the equivalent of 75 US$ for a 30-minute screw and there were some gorgeous women there that you could never have for even twice that back home. So, if I went into it knowing that it would be the pure opticfuck, why not? It was still a good deal, and I knew what it would be from the beginning, so why not. Why not, indeed. So, I set my sights for a beautiful woman, preferably german, as I had not had one yet. However, by this time the place was beginning to fill up with polar bears. I was thinking that I should take Leah up on her offer, but now she was nowhere to be seen. I looked, but no luck. Must be taken already. There was another who had approached me earlier and we had fun talking although I was spent then – Annika was her name, a gorgeous blonde covered with tattoos but a beautiful face. She was also missing in action. Oh well. Then I somehow caught the eye of this tall German girl, long blond hair with black streaks. (Funny story. When she came up to me, I played hard to get since I was still looking for those other two. I told her that I really preferred brunettes to blondes, and then she pointed to the black streaks, and we had a good laugh. Sometimes a sense of humour is key, so I decided this would be my opticfuck. She fit the bill. Tall, very fit, with big tits and a very pretty face. You could do much worse.)

Went up to the room. I did not even try to kiss, I could tell that was off the menu. I just let her take charge. She started with a HJ that went into a BBBJ, both of which were very nice but a little too energetic for my weakened state. Eventually managed to get hard enough to put on the cover and we went after it, while I pawed her big (fake, but well done) tits. This was just pure carnal pleasure. A shame that while the spirit was more than willing, the flesh was weak. We went back to the HJ / BJ combo, which was nice, but I was afraid of coming in her mouth and incurring an extra 50E charge, so went back to doggie. I knew I was not going to be able to pop, but I was just going to enjoy the sight of fucking this blonde glamazon from behind and in the mirrors. I thought to myself, there are far worse ways to spend 60E and 30 minutes of time. But all good things come to an end. Eventually, I had had enough and decided to have mercy on her (besides, we were beginning to run out of time) , and called an end to it. She was OK with that. .

Candy (German) : Looks 8. 5, Service 6.

And then I showered for the 18th time that day, got dressed and headed out with a smile on my lips. It had been a VERY nice afternoon.

UShobbyist

06-18-12, 17:47

Artemis—Berlin.

Artemis is smaller than Globe, or DREAM [zurich] and comparable but lesser in assets than OASE [Frankfurt], e, g, Jacuzzi I / swimming pool, are conspicuous by their absence. Main hall is also more cramped

Quality of food in Artemis is comparable to that at Oase, while at places like GLOBE DREAM there is no free food while at Mainhatan or at Colossum at the best mediocre, just do away type.The customers need to wait in line to get their food in FKK Oase. Do customers of FKK Artemis need to wait in line to get their food? There was no fruit in FKK Oase when I was there. How about FKK Artemis? By the way, I think the food service of FKK Mainhattan is decent.

Ableyone

06-18-12, 19:48

Quality of food in Artemis is comparable to that at OaseSay again? A matter of taste I guess, but at Artemis you can eat when you like and serve it yourself. I didn't have to queue for food at Artemis. Nice soup too.

Did you go downstairs on your visit they have some kind of pool / jacuzzi thing downstairs.

Rocketboy0

06-19-12, 07:22

My thanks to all the gents who have posted here – And then I showered for the 18th time that day, got dressed and headed out with a smile on my lips. It had been a VERY nice afternoon.Neds. Great report, informative, helpful, the way it should be. Merci-RB

Rocketboy0

06-19-12, 13:11

The customers need to wait in line to get their food in FKK Oase. Do customers of FKK Artemis need to wait in line to get their food? There was no fruit in FKK Oase when I was there. How about FKK Artemis? By the way, I think the food service of FKK Mainhattan is decent.Surely a lot of this belongs on the FKK Lounge thread but in keeping with the convoluted spirit of things, I was recently lured to FKK Palace near Frankfurt, and was quite impressed (see recent Palace thread post if interested).

Things might change (a little) once the new Arts wing is completed in late Sept. I guess they are making money hand over fist so no real interest to change, and as there is no local competition, no reason to do so. But if you have a chance to go to the Palace, well worth it to compare.

Berlin surely a nicer, more exciting city to be in for a few days, and I like the Arts management and many of the staff. But the difference between the quality of the clubs is striking, after a Palace visit.
Seriously more bang for the buck at the cheaper and better Palace IMHO; it was a real eye-opener. I would urge mongers to use the Artemis suggestion box on the food and girls fronts, as I really think Artemis needs to up its game.

Of course this is partly a taste thing, but I think my fairly different wingman, Col. Kimino would agree. -RB

Kimino

06-19-12, 15:00

Of course this is partly a taste thing, but I think my fairly different wingman, Col. Kimino would agree. -RBI agree totally.

I'm a BIG fan of Artemis and Berlin in general. Know quite a few girls, feel comfortable in the place, I usually meet friends, all is nice.

After the fkk tour I did with a friend a couple of months ago, during which we spent a great evening at Palace (wasn't my first visit) I decided to take a closer look last week, one night on my own, one night with RB. Absolutely great place.

Repeating at nausea it's a taste thing, the points of strength of Palace from the pov of an Artemis fan like me are:

- The place is super clean same goes for the rooms, nice to see,"elegant"

- The bar serves quality drinks at a fraction of the prices of Artemis if you compare the quantities. Talking about superalcoholcs.

- Food and the restaurant setup is much better, at the end of the story I don't feel the need to go out to eat. Which translates in 2 taxi and one restaurant bill less to pay.

- Separate room for smokers.

- Lineup very strong, with many optiflicks. This area totally satisfies my tastes.

- All sessions I had. 7 in 2 days, where absolutely great. Maybe a bit more PSE tha GFE, but that was my mood.

- No particular upselling, sharks and all that jazz.

My2cents.

Kimino

Belvaros

06-19-12, 16:59

GALAZY. I stayed on a few days in Berlin, Ciarra has NOT been at the club in a few weeks (2 or so) they now tell me. Initially the girl at reception said Ciarra (German) would be there this week starting today, now they are telling me they do not know when. Good news is Nina is there tomorrow! I am not sure who the German blonde with big tits and tats was the other day then as I am sure she called herself Cara / Sierra / Ciarra while she was blowin my little guy in the wind!

Sorry for the mislead. I initially emailed the contact list and then spome with them personally but for a muli-million $$ business they do not seem to be able to keep a personnel tracking list of any consequence.

My initial reports to follow. Go the Poms today vs Ukraine

Belvaros

06-19-12, 19:41

Berlin. Fun city, really love it and so cheap compared to MOST places in Western Europe. I could live here easily, even in a hotel. So many 4 star places at 2 star prices (USA / Spain / Italy prices etc). Indeed, I love the art, the music scene, the people (so friendly even though my Deutsche is appalling). I can see why the German economy motors on whilst the debt driven lazy world lingers on. So they spent $2 Trillion combining East and West Germany. Just fucking incredible. The cleanliness here, the efficiency of public transportation, the great architecture and brilliant products. I love the way they have combined the old monuments with the new and the way they have kept the touristy things so appealing, especially CP Charlie etc (I am a BAD tourist in the sense I would rather just live with the locals then see the tourist scenes, but here it is fully integrated).

Artemis and Intellectual Property Value. I could rave on about $20 bareback fucks in Kalgoorlie back in the day or $3 BBBJ and TLN sex in Africa in the 1990's but I won't. The mongering world seems to have aligned in all areas with respect to the prices the hoes are asking today. I can find women in 3rd world and even lower down the scale countries asking for US $200 for a single pop or 1/2 hour, and in some WAY out of the atmosphere places even more (Astana, Marrakesh, San Sebastian, Medellin etc). So when I monger I usually do it as a local, that is I live in a place for a few days or weeks or months before I buy. I learn the lay of the land and pay for the knowledge I acquire, as well as reading this great forum. I do business in some shit holes that are not on anyone's map so I know how this game goes. That usually leads to every rookie mistake, disappointment, rip-off, wasted phone and computer time and having to deal with BS (bait and switch, bullies, pimps, the works). At ARTEMIS and other FKK the intellectual property value of 2 fucks + guaranteed BBBJ and entry is 200 Euros. (plus a feed, a swim in a nice pool, a sauna and the best eye candy outside of Flashdancers you can find (NUDE) ALL GUARANTEED. Just awesome. I estimate in a place like Morocco where I spend a lot of time that the average price of my initial conquests for 2 pops etc would be in the $150-$250 range (allowing for missteps, the price of learning where to go, bribes, language lessons, beers, wines, how to ask, how to avoid cops etc). BUT now this is in a place, Germany, with a GDP per capita 8-10 times Morocco AND the IP is FREE. 200 Euros, no hassle, no danger = GREAT MATE!

I arrived in Berlin exhausted last Sat night after multiples flights from the Ukraine. Got in around 7pm and got a hotel car to take my gear to the Westin while I headed straight for Artemis. My driver thought this was a hoot and he even advised me on some women to avoid there. Go figure. So I RTFF, many, many pages of it and am especially thankful to those who posted such excellent IP.

Artemis. ACT 1. Excuse me if I get my times and orders messed up but here goes. I arrived in Artemis at about 9pm, paid my loot and asked if Ciarra was there (the girl on the desk needs to improve her client skills a wee bit (5. 5/10 for her). She said Ciarra would be there at some time if not already (NOPE). I SLOWLY walked around for 10 minutes and was accosted in that time by 17 different ladies. I counted them. Most in the 7/10 to 7. 5/10 and IMHO there were 5 who are 9s or 10s. I decided I would take the 1st woman who was nice and persistent without being pushy. An Asian girl was very pushy (not the Malaysian, maybe an Indo or Thai with large hard tits, nice face, bad attitude) and I passed on her and settled for a Moldovan / Ukranian lass, around 5' 1".100 lbs, medium length brunette. I had not had my pipes cleaned in about 4 days, no jerking off, no p4p in Donetsk, so I was very direct with her. I told her in my bad French (she spoke a little English and good French) that I just wanted a starter of 1/2 hour of OWO / 69 to get the blood going. If I enjoyed it, I said I would go on for the full hour or more. She seemed happy with this. The lady has a pretty face 8. 5/10, green eyes and a laid back way unusual for the Moldovan lasses. Her name is Margita or Gita (something like that, this was the only one I didn't write down right away so may be off a little). So we headed for one of the rooms and wow, she blew my brains out in about 7 minutes flat (110E quid gone. Boom). Never before have I been able to get off so quickly on the oral. Brilliant OWO skills, she sucked and teased me so quickly and then cupped my balls as I blew so much sperm into her mouth that I thought she would choke, poor lass. She spat it out on me after I asked her to (in English) and then she licked some off of my chest. I got her into 69, pushed her upwards and held her small but perfect B cups while I stuck my very long tongue up her. I licked her clit alternating as I tickled her ass and tongue fucked her. I did this for a good 15 minutes while I drowned in her tasty, young glorious juices. She quivered a little. We put on the rubber thingy and fucked a little but as I came so much before I would need MORE TIME. 1/2 hour almost up. I asked her to go another 1/2 hour but I wanted to get a huge titted blonde to sit on my face while I fucked Miss Moldova here. She left the room and came back with a friend, Jenna. Yes I trusted her to pick. Nice blondie with a PSE look, bolt ons and a perfect ass and flat stomach. I told Jenna we would be doing face fucking and straight cowgirl sex, one on my cock, one on my face. Wow, wow, wow. I ended up having them argue a bit over the order of things and in the end they gave me a joint ball licking, rimming, cock sucking good time. Then I put tiny Miss Moldova on my cock and had Jenna's ample tits in my face while I fingered her by now very wet puss. This is the best threesome I have ever had. I came quickly inside the rubber inside Miss Gita and was so impressed with the duos skill set that we reversed the order and went again with Jenna on my cock and Gita face fucking me. I was so hard after the 2nd coming that I had Gita use her considerable oral skills to blow me in her mouth again to finish (3rd time in 90 minutes) as Jenna licked my ears and neck. Just great, just great, bleeding the absolute best. The duet lasted 1 hour with me and I handed over the princely sum of 230E quid to Gita and 120E to Jenna. Gita says she is relatively new in Germany and Jenna seems like an old pro but BOTH were very sweet with me.

Round 1 and 2. Gita performance 9. 5/10, Jenna 9/10. Looks for both around 8. 5-9/10, my sexual attraction. Gita 8. 5/10, Jenna 10/10

Excess

06-20-12, 09:31

Berlin. Fun city, really love it and so cheap compared to MOST places in Western Europe. I could live here easily, even in a hotel. So many 4 star places at 2 star prices (USA / Spain / Italy prices etc).

With Jenna on my cock and Gita face fucking me. I was so hard after the 2nd coming that I had Gita use her considerable oral skills to blow me in her mouth again to finish (3rd time in 90 minutes) as Jenna licked my ears and neck. Just great, just great, bleeding the absolute best. The duet lasted 1 hour with me and I handed over the princely sum of 230E quid to Gita and 120E to Jenna. Gita says she is relatively new in Germany and Jenna seems like an old pro but BOTH were very sweet with me.

Round 1 and 2. Gita performance 9. 5/10, Jenna 9/10. Looks for both around 8. 5-9/10, my sexual attraction. Gita 8. 5/10, Jenna 10/10A very excellent report from Belvaros who takes it all in at Artemis. Always nice to read someone making a big splash with little drama in a new environment and being, shall we say, totally satisfied.

Takeaways here as presented by Belvaros include a new environment is a a challenge and not an issue, and perhaps the bottom line as repeated by some is that he who states his requirements in a pleasant but absolutely clear manner, often gets exactly that. Taking charge is important in life both civilian and mongering. Also after building a rapport in the room with a girl that is going well, having her select in according to specifications bring in another playmate can work wonders.

Great report and outcome, Belvaros, always a pleasure to see a man enjoying his hobby and being rewarded for firmly but with precision directing traffic.

Straight to ROD for future guidance.

E.

Sucker17

06-20-12, 11:37

The duet lasted 1 hour with me and I handed over the princely sum of 230E quid to Gita and 120E to Jenna. Gita says she is relatively new in Germany and Jenna seems like an old pro but BOTH were very sweet with me.

Round 1 and 2. Gita performance 9. 5/10, Jenna 9/10. Looks for both around 8. 5-9/10, my sexual attraction. Gita 8. 5/10, Jenna 10/10Thanks for your thrilling report from the Love Bahnhof! I am pleased to see you had a very good time with a duo. Threesomes can be good and excellent. I had a very similar experience with two girls from Azerbaijan. Or as I like to put it. Sharing is caring! Keep up the good work! Just by curiosity, what did you actually pay to Gita. 1hour=120 euros + 2 CIM 100 euros = 220 euros and I guess you tipped her?

Belvaros

06-20-12, 15:14

The Bad. Guys who come and actually hassle other patrons and the WG. I had 2-3 really obnoxious Italian guys calling me and certain women names. Imagine in a ho-house calling someone a "putana", fucking original I say. There appears to be at least 2 girls there (Georgian or Kazahks) with pimps. I actually suspected one burly Serbian type guy of being a shill. He kept telling me to take certain girls. In NO uncertain terms I told him,"Select your own sonny".

The Good. Facilities, many many pretty ladies, many many PSE type women and a few super model types. All with the exception of about 10-15% of the WG were charming and fun.

Session 1. I reported paying Margita (thinking her name may actually be Marketa, sorry was only thing I fudged on) E230 quid. I was with her for 1. 5 hours and CIM twice so techinally I underpaid. Jenna this time I was with for 1 hour. Sorry if I did not explain fully. I would do both together and alone again for SURE.

(Part 2). I paid Jenna and Margita and headed to the smoky areas. I never smoke but have found a direct correlation between women who do smoke and great sex. Kind of the addiction correlation index thing! Anyway, I sat down and people watched for all of 30 seconds when the very HOT Romanian with red hair approached. I had to say no cause I was fucked, literally and figuratively. Andf I forgot to shower after session 1. I headed to the showers and relaxed in there for a good 15 mins. I came back and asked for in order, NINA, Melody, Katharina (I really wanted Katharina) but they were no where to be found. Then out of the blue a tall thin. 10/10 bodied Hungarian approached me. Zorada, something like that. No it is a BIOTCH I did once in Budpaest. The dreaded Zoya. Awesome body and ugly face with a worse attitude. It was in 2006/07 I had her and of course it did not register on her face when she saw me (I am 30 lbs lighter now). She is a real pig. Indeed the only woman I have had in my home I have thrown out or ever wanted to hit. She says "Guten Harben". Me "Jo estete kevano" in my bad MAGYAR."Bocs Megs" (fuck off). She almost fell over. I chuckled and moved onwards and upwards (as it were). A very tall (I mean 6' or maybe 6' 1") schwarzer approached, very lithe. 7/10 face and very aggressive. No thanks I said, I will come to you if I need anything.

I went to the theatre and watched the Italian guys (alone) watching bad porn and a few WG were blowing guys in the seats. Very small area and the porn kinda amused me. Why watch when you can PARTICIPATE I say. An attractive Russian (?) approached me, wow WOW WOW, fuck me, how long has this princess porn star been on the planet.

Marcie (brown hair. Long). I said YES before she even got to me. This was about 1 hour after I finished with Jenna etc, so I knew this was going to be a struggle. She took me to a room behind the spa area and stood me in the doorway, ripped off my tattered robe and sucked me for a good 8 or 10 mins. I could not CUM, she was surprised. I told her of my 1 1/2 hr tryst before. This made her more determined. We walked away and went into a room, the round bed was fun and the mirrors (LOL). She thrust her puss in my face and rocked my cock in her mouth, slipped on a rubber and then did some wild contortionist thing to fuck me kinda sideways. 1/2 hour into the session and she is still pounding away in different angles. I was getting that rising feeling, she grinded her * deeper and then ripped off the condom, stuck me in her mouth and now lightly and slowly brought me to climax. I came all over her magnificent belly while she smiled at me. She grabs me right away again. Nope I am done. Done and dusted. I say give me a massage for the next 20 minutes or so (I only intended 1/2 hour but we were 40 mins into it now) left. She massages my belly and tells me she wants me to fuck her in the ass. I couldn't get it up I suspect for a few hours so sadly decline. I actually never do anal after a bad 1st session with my ex wife years ago. So after a total of 1 hour whene I intended a quick 60 quid session I fork over 170E quid for the CIM / COB and 1hour. What a beaut lady. Body 9/10, face 9/10, attitude 10/10. Performance her 10/10. Me 7/10. REPEAT yes sir!

I go and shower and know I am beat, but I believe in fulfilling each day so I go down to the bar area to find the elusive Ciarra / Sierra or Nina. Nope, no joy but there are MANY really *HOT* naked ladies, most not shown on their FKK website. I spoke briefly with an Azerbai girl, Carmen and a very attractive Romanian Julie and her mate Analise (?). They ask for a session but I firmly and politely reject, smile, saying "If I am alive in 2 hours I hope so, sincerely". I go to order a drink but need the dreaded drink's card for alcohol, so I am about to head to the payment area when an OLD familiar voice screams at me,"You stupid nitwit". I turn, fuck me it is an African gun runner I have known since before Iraq War I, a grinning, belching, loud Rhodesian. He pats me on the head and says,"I have plenty of ammunition left, see ya". He grabs the red haired Romanian, and heads off like the proverbial apparition in the desert. I go get some drink tokens and stand at the bar admiring this GREAT scene. So much better than being in an Arab bar full of women who are sold literally by the pound, so much eye candy and penis power.

God I love Berlin (Parts 3-5 to follow),"Party on Wayne"

Belvaros

06-20-12, 16:39

I left Artemis very early Sunday morning, late Sat night and headed to my hotel to check in. It appears the front desk staff were pre-informed of my decision to check in late as I was greeted with a few chuckles (hotel drivers gossip, YA). Nice hotel, Grand Westin. Fucking nice rooms, and NO seat in the shower (are you reading Ukraine)

Day 2. At about midday, I got up and went for a long walk around this great city. Really love it, so clean and the people are wunderbar. I found a really cool bar in Mitte, over on Dirkenstrasse called Rivabar. Next time in town I will have to go there at night to check out the scene. I decide to get a cab and get a brief tour of the city and a history lesson, although from John le Carre books, I may be able to give a history lesson of my own on the cold war and the importance of this east / west bordertown. Anyway, I take an hour in the cab (cheap too for Europe) and then weaken and head straight for Artemis after a stop off at an ATM machine and a sausage cart. Good stuff. I buy some portable mint strips, pop in a few and arrive at FKK at 3. 30pm with the intent of watching for a good hour or so. I shower, change and go straight to the pool. Yes I was the blonde DICK with swimming togs on in the pool going back and forth trying to avoid the few sharks there at that time. I swim, float for 15 minutes, get out, sit on a chair and get approached by 4 girls in quick succession. All 8s or 9s IMHO. I get all of their names for later reference as I really want each of them and tell them so sincerely."Grab me after 5pm to one, grab me at 6pm to another etc". They tell me they are

1. Cheyenne. Like the injun, German, long hair, brunette. Very bloody nice indeed.

2. Tyra. German, blonde barbie doll, actually more a 10 then a 9 IMHO.

3. Ella. Russkie. Red ass.

4. Sierra. German, blonde, bolt ons, tats. I am SO EXCITED thinking this is the Ciarra (it is not I latter find out) but she is a solid 9/10, body 11/10, face 7/10.

I just cannot swim in the nuddie, I mean the shrinkage and all (Seinfeld). So I think, let me check out the food here as I am still on the munchies. Nah, nothing attracts my eye except for a very attractive broad siting alone at a table. I know one shouldn't approach her here but I walk by, smile and point to the outside and leave.

20 seconds later a very pretty, blonde Polish lady, Natalie approaches with another blonde, small frame, small tits and nice dyed blonde hair, Hillary. Proposing a 3some, no I say, I will take you 1st, pointing at Natalie for 30 minutes of joy and then her, Hillary and then if all is working we will go a 3some. They seem a little disappointed but in about a minute,"I am back in the NY groove", with my cock inside this perfect mouth. Now I find this girl to be a super nice ho but I was a little adrift from t he night before and had erectile problems. I settled for a nice back, ball and ass rub and 15 mins of oral joy. I paid her the 60 quid without cumming and left to find Hilary. She is by the bar talking to the large guy from last night (Serb or Russkie)."Warning Will Robinson". She sees me, turns and gives him some submissive expletive in a foreign language (Czech?). I tell her I will shower and will then have a 3some for 1 hour with her and Natalie starting in 10 minutes, no CIM, just OWO, HJ and 69, lesbian stuff, the works and great sex. She agrees and she goes to find Natalie. 15 minutes later I have Hillary fucking me while the other is face fucking me and drowning me (again). I cannot cum until they work my cock, balls and rimmed ass in unison, wow, best BBBJ skills in tandem I have ever witnessed. Then I cum and it is so good, a 10/10 orgasm, fuck I have kind of CIM in 2 mouths / bodies, but it is a body shudderer like I can usually only get by myself off with. But no, we have more. Hillary slowly starts to lick the cum off my belly (what is left) and my shaft and keeps doing this for a good 6-7 minutes while the other girl teases my chest and then licks me neck. They massage and suck me for a good 10 minutes and shazzam, moi is hard again and a rubber goes on. Hillary fucks me slowly and gently while Natalie teases me and then starts to gently choke me (I love this shit). I cum very weakly in about 6 minutes inside the dreaded rubber inside Hillary, but the sexual asphyxiation works and I get a nice all over buzz. And then it is almost time. We chat for 7 or 8 minutes and I go to my locker + hand over the loot, they do not ask for the CIM / COB 50E extra each but as I had the best time I give it to them both plus a small tip, my personal phone number / s on a 20E note each. Tell them if they want just drinks / dinner outside in the next few days to call me (is this forbidden?). I really like these 2 women and the Polish girl would be a keeper outside these walls.

Hillary face 7/10, body 9/10 attitude 10/10 performance 9/10.

Natalie face 9/10, body 9/10, attitude 9/10, performance 10/10.

Both repeats. I go and check my cell and notice some important messages and an invite to a pub to watch the Euros. I leave after smiling at Natalie and co with the intent of re-entering later in the night and tell the ladies,"I shall return".

Galazy

06-20-12, 18:43

Galazy

06-20-12, 18:49

Does anyone know if they're showing the football in the main bar or just in the downstairs (smoke free) bar?

Thanks.

Angus Magee

06-21-12, 11:16

Does anyone know if they're showing the football in the main bar or just in the downstairs (smoke free) bar?

Thanks.Probably just downstairs. Unless you can persuade then to get a feed going in the kino. Soccer and BJ day maybe?

AM

Nebula2001

06-21-12, 15:37

Does anyone know if they're showing the football in the main bar or just in the downstairs (smoke free) bar?They're showing it only downstairs.

Belvaros

06-21-12, 15:50

"The love you take is equal to the love you make." Sadly, I left last night and am in the dirty yet remarkable Casablanca."Party on Wayne".

Day 3 and Part 5. I finally got a 30 minute session with the very popular Sheenya, she of the website and nice disposition. I was kinda tired so was at 4/10 in my own performance but this extremely hot lady made up for me. I weakened as usual and stayed with her for an hour, OWO, HJ. 69 and the usual cowgirl / multi positional PSE. 120E quid.

Sheenya. Looks: Face 8/10, Body 10/10, Attitude 11/10, Performance 10/10, my sexual attraction to her 10/10. Lovely girl.

PSE. Sierra. She of the blonde hair and tramp stamp and some arm art. Of all the girls I have been with in the 3 days, this girl is the roughest, she has some very expensive looking art house tattoos. She is a porno type but in a nice kind of way, very porn star looking, extreme PSE performance, she sucked and sucked and sucked and I blew a small load on her magnificent tits. 1 hour CIM / COM, fucking earth shattering sex. Plus tip = 190E quid.

Sierra. Face 7/10 (working girl look, rough but pretty) Body 9/10, Performance 10/10.

Overall. I spent a small fortune on many young women and did almost all 1 hour sessions or more with all but 1 which I think in retrospect got me such awesome experiences and almost 10/10 service from every lady. Being GENEROUS here clearly helps (the girls GOSSIP a lot it appears, Ja Ja). I wish I was 25 years younger because I could sponsor one or 2 of these lasses, especially Natalie and Hillary. Actually I could have those 2 on tap every day. The perfect mongering week at the perfect spot.

Conclusion. Many here have focused on some minor points like THE worn or tattered beds, OLD spreads, old whispy robes, mattresses and sofas a bit soiled or average food, expensive grog etc. But there is nothing average about; this business, the women, the overall feeling one gets inside this facility. I even got that "HUNTERS" mentality I get at times in foreign hostile places where I enjoy the pussy chase. Here it is guaranteed but given the fact that I did not get any sessions with my 5 highly preferred women (from RTFF). Nina, Ciarra, Melody, Tyra or Cheyenne yet had all great experiences highlights the advantages of this place. SELECTION FOR EVERYONE.

Thanks to Angus Magee, RocketBoy (burning out his fuse up here alone) , Galazy, DRFuchs, Prof etc. This forum ROCKS (FKK Artemis)

FKK Artemis = 10/10.

ZimmerBaby

06-22-12, 07:49

The Bad. There appears to be at least 2 girls there (Georgian or Kazahks) with pimps. I actually suspected one burly Serbian type guy of being a shill. He kept telling me to take certain girls. In NO uncertain terms I told him,"Select your own sonny".Strange, I've also met a Serbian guy, he was really a fucking ****. He approached me and with his Russian / Serbian accent and voice like Alexander Lebed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIH6n--a2M0&feature=related

Recommended a couple of girls, told a lot of BS. It was actually funny, since I was dead below my umbilicus, alone and now I had my first DMAFFFKBE. (Darwinist mafia at fffk bordello experience).35-40 years. 175-180 cm, a bit overweight. I don't want to mention which girls he was giving promotion on this open forum.

Norjan

06-22-12, 09:19

Angus Magee

06-22-12, 10:12

Strange, I've also met a Serbian guy, he was really a fucking. He approached me and with his Russian / Serbian accent and voice like Alexander Lebed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIH6n--a2M0&feature=related

Recommended a couple of girls, told a lot of BS. It was actually funny, since I was dead below my umbilicus, alone and now I had my first DMAFFFKBE. (Darwinist mafia at fffk bordello experience).35-40 years. 175-180 cm, a bit overweight. I don't want to mention which girls he was giving promotion on this open forum.This "trend", if indeed it is a trend, surprises me. I would have thought that the management would be on top of a girl's "agent" following her into the club. If it is in anyway obvious I might say it would be good to mention it at the front desk when leaving. One can not help it if a girl has someone outside the club to whom she is answering. But when they start trying to hustle up business in the club, this is bad news.

In fact a couple of years back there was an incident up in the Ku'damm in which guns came into play and someone was shot in the leg, all due to a guy trying to get a girl back into Artemis to work when she had been ejected for her pimp's activities at the club.

AM

Angus Magee

06-22-12, 10:14

On dessous tag (lingerie day) do the girls wear panties?

If so, do they just put them back again after a session, and wear the walking from the room to the safes where you pay them?

I mean, do they change panties, bras etc between sessions?

NorjanCustomarily they stuff them up the punter's but hole (that would be you) and you have to retrieve them when you get back to your hotel.

AM

Belvaros

06-22-12, 13:29

I wrote a detailed part 4 but it appears the Fucking Forum ate it. Will try to reconstruct it from my notes when I get a chance.

SERBIAN dude. Yeah, why would a pimp pay the 80 quid to get in and then promote girls only getting 60 quid a pop, but it was very obvious this guy is promoting certain women. I saw pimps try to do this in Vegas when the women DID NOT work for them. They would then (outside a strip club / club etc) bully the girls into giving them money, steal loot from them or pester them into working for them, usually with associated threats. I sent a message to the Artemis club with an EXACT description of this EE punce. Hopefully this Serb / Mafioso will not bother any other punters.

Norjan

06-22-12, 18:06

Customarily they stuff them up the punter's but hole (that would be you) and you have to retrieve them when you get back to your hotel.

AMOk Angus, funny answer, since it was me asking.

But seriously, sexy panties could be a turn on, but if they just put them back on after a session it wouldn't be.

Norjan

Angus Magee

06-22-12, 18:18

Ok Angus, funny answer, since it was me asking.

But seriously, sexy panties could be a turn on, but if they just put them back on after a session it wouldn't be.

NorjanWell I seriously doubt many of the girls come to work with a suit case full of panties so that they can change between sessions so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of certain mongers.

So I am guessing that you should avoid Wednesdays or ask the girls if you can spray them with that disinfectant that I seem to remember you carrying. See how that flies with the ladies.

AM

Norjan

06-22-12, 19:03

Well I seriously doubt many of the girls come to work with a suit case full of panties so that they can change between sessions so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of certain mongers.

So I am guessing that you should avoid Wednesdays or ask the girls if you can spray them with that disinfectant that I seem to remember you carrying. See how that flies with the ladies.

AMIt's antiseptic gel I bring to the club, not spray.

Is it always dessous tag on wednesdays, even in the summer? If so, do they wear lingerie from 11 a. M. ? Then it is probably a good idea to show up early.

On dossous tag the ladies wear bras, panties, stockings etc?

Norjan

Angus Magee

06-22-12, 19:14

Granthree

06-22-12, 23:10

It's antiseptic gel I bring to the club, not spray.

Is it always dessous tag on wednesdays, even in the summer? If so, do they wear lingerie from 11 am? Then it is probably a good idea to show up early.

On dossous tag the ladies wear bras, panties, stockings etc?

NorjanIt might be a bit nasty I agree, but when you think of it, a lot of things might be nasty when you stop to think about it.

Two girls wiped off my cock with antiseptic stuff (felt like ice cold, probably because of the alcohol) and while it seems weird, I understand them. There was some nasty men there who I doubt washed that well.

I showered all the time while visiting. After a while I figured out why those "towel ladies" are running ALL the time, I think I used 10 towels there in total. Their electrical bill must be huge.

BTW does anyone in here have any experience in using your own condoms at Artemis? I use a special size and have some custom made condoms which feels a lot better, but it seems the girls only like the thickest and cheapest condoms?

Rocketboy0

06-23-12, 08:53

It might be a bit nasty I agree, but when you think of it, a lot of things might be nasty when you stop to think about it.

Any experience in using your own condoms at Artemis? I use a special size and have some custom made condoms which feels a lot better, but it seems the girls only like the thickest and cheapest condoms?Yes which is exactly why I don't think about it.

Norjan. It is just a dirty world but luckily with some minimal precautions, our bodies defend us well. Best to employ the above strategy and focus on enjoying or figuring out where this "clean" thing comes from, and try squashing it like a bug (he said sensitively). It is of course one of your charms and it makes great reading here, but still, Angus has pointed the way.

Now to the meaty section. I and others do bring our own but this is very much a trust thing with the girls as there are worries that mongers have brought some with pinholes. Heard the stories several times. I have a small protective box that keeps em looking healthy which helps a little. With a new girl, having a fresh unopened pack also helps allay fears. But their concerns are unfortunately real and you just have to go with the flow.

But, my all time favorite non-latex super thin super sensitive ones were recently discontinued and I would love a better solution. So G3, when you say you have "custom made condoms" could you explain how and where this is done? And how these are measured and molded might be fun in itself as long as some 90 yr old man with no teeth is not involved.

Angus Magee

06-23-12, 09:00

I have often used my own. The way to bring it up is as a suggestion. Allow her to see the unopened package and to inspect it if she wants. If she feels comfortable then you are good to go. I think I have only had one or two girls refuse. I think that the most important thing is just that she feels comfortable with you.

AM

Sucker17

06-23-12, 12:22

It might be a bit nasty I agree, but when you think of it, a lot of things might be nasty when you stop to think about it.

Two girls wiped off my cock with antiseptic stuff (felt like ice cold, probably because of the alcohol) and while it seems weird, I understand them. There was some nasty men there who I doubt washed that well.Hell yeah! When I see (and smell) some of the guys going to FKKs, I can't blame the girls for using their antiseptic wipes.

I showered all the time while visiting. After a while I figured out why those "towel ladies" are running ALL the time, I think I used 10 towels there in total. Their electrical bill must be huge.I thought so as well, I actually had to tell several guys that they should turn off the water, as the showers are not automatic as in clubs like Oase and Palace. Many guys neglects to turn off the running water, and I don't think it is intentional, they are just not paying attention. No wonder we have to pay so much more for the entry fee!

Regarding condoms, I got the same feeling, or more precisely lack of feeling sometimes due to the thickness of the condoms. Some girl I spoke to, said she bought the condoms cheap directly from the club (Oase). When I inspected the condoms used in Oase and Artemis, I've discovered they're mostly the same brand: London. I wonder if they are custom made by London Traveller?

Granthree

06-23-12, 16:28

Yes which is exactly why I don't think about it.

Norjan. It is just a dirty world but luckily with some minimal precautions, our bodies defend us well. Best to employ the above strategy and focus on enjoying or figuring out where this "clean" thing comes from, and try squashing it like a bug (he said sensitively). It is of course one of your charms and it makes great reading here, but still, Angus has pointed the way.

Now to the meaty section. I and others do bring our own but this is very much a trust thing with the girls as there are worries that mongers have brought some with pinholes. Heard the stories several times. I have a small protective box that keeps them looking healthy which helps a little. With a new girl, having a fresh unopened pack also helps allay fears. But their concerns are unfortunately real and you just have to go with the flow.

But, my all time favorite non-latex super thin super sensitive ones were recently discontinued and I would love a better solution. So G3, when you say you have "custom made condoms" could you explain how and where this is done? And how these are measured and molded might be fun in itself as long as some 90 yr old man with no teeth is not involved.Regarding the Norjan + germs situation I once was at a music festival and shared a meal with some other people, using our own forks, into the same pot. That wasn't something I would ever do, but I've gotten over that fear. It's difficult to get sick by that. And you could never kiss someone being so afraid of germs?

The condoms are from the UK. I found a Joe on another forum asking for help / critique on their site / idea and in return he would send a batch of free condoms. I tried to meassure with their thing (you just print out an A4 page, and cut a form out). Found it I was a Z17, he told me it was an unusual size and that it probably was because of that, that normal condoms don't feel that nice.

I'm not sure if I can link without getting in trouble, but you can probably type it into a browser yourself: Theyfit. Co. Uk.

Best fit yet, even though they smell a bit of rubber and aren't the thinnest possible. But I don't have that strangling feeling with them

Granthree

06-23-12, 16:33

Hell yeah! When I see (and smell) some of the guys going to FKKs, I can't blame the girls for using their antiseptic wipes.

I thought so as well, I actually had to tell several guys that they should turn off the water, as the showers are not automatic as in clubs like Oase and Palace. Many guys neglects to turn off the running water, and I don't think it is intentional, they are just not paying attention. No wonder we have to pay so much more for the entry fee!

Regarding condoms, I got the same feeling, or more precisely lack of feeling sometimes due to the thickness of the condoms. Some girl I spoke to, said she bought the condoms cheap directly from the club (Oase). When I inspected the condoms used in Oase and Artemis, I've discovered they're mostly the same brand: London. I wonder if they are custom made by London Traveller?I visited on a Sunday. At about 04:00 in the night only 10-15 customers were left. I found several showers turned on to full blast with NO ONE in sight. Stuff like that makes me angry, I'm not a "tree hugger" but things like that make me thing about our environment. And also on the price of admission to Artemis! 1 minute timers would be the best I think.

I don't think the condoms at Artemis are that good. Not sure if they're all the same, can't really remember. Only one girl picked all the way through her bag and found some bigger condoms than the standard ones, otherwise they were all small and hard to get on.

Norjan

06-24-12, 09:56

Regarding the Norjan + germs situation I once was at a music festival and shared a meal with some other people, using our own forks, into the same pot. That wasn't something I would ever do, but I've gotten over that fear. It's difficult to get sick by that. And you could never kiss someone being so afraid of germs?It's just FKK girls I don't't kiss, and that's because they do blowjobs, CIM and so on with other guys.

Norjan

Sucker17

06-24-12, 12:01

It's just FKK girls I don't't kiss, and that's because they do blowjobs, CIM and so on with other guys.

NorjanHow can you be sure that your GF don't do the same, and you kiss her? I mean seriously, it took me some years before daring to DATY girls in clubs (not FKK) , but DFK has never been a problem for me. I admit that I have a hard time selecting girls that I see going with guys that I doubt can be called "clean". I just choose somebody else, and try not to think too much about it. I've always had a very good immunity system, and I think that exposing yourself to DFK, DATY, just makes the body more able to fight off germs. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger, right?

Angus Magee

06-24-12, 12:17

What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger, right?I do troll Norjan a bit with regard to his phobias and neuroses I admit. But what I do not understand is how anyone who thinks too much about the whole thing can even bother with paid sex. The fact is these girls see a lot of dick and I am sure some take more care than other with regard to clean up between sessions. As paid sex venues go though I fail to see how one could find a place where the opportunity to stay clean is any better.

This is one place where too much imagining is not really a good thing. I am just glad that Norjan and myself seem to have decidedly different tastes with regard to women. I bet Norjan is even happier with this.

AM

Norjan

06-24-12, 15:29

How can you be sure that your GF don't do the same, and you kiss her? I mean seriously, it took me some years before daring to DATY girls in clubs (not FKK) , but DFK has never been a problem for me. I admit that I have a hard time selecting girls that I see going with guys that I doubt can be called "clean". I just choose somebody else, and try not to think too much about it. I've always had a very good immunity system, and I think that exposing yourself to DFK, DATY, just makes the body more able to fight off germs. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger, right?I've said before that I think some guys are more or less "immune" to STD:s because of their mongering lifestyle year after year so I agree with you.

But I'm not a monger.

I just see a thrill in fucking 3-4 porn star looking girls, having a threesome with blonde, silicone boobed beauties etc in the same evening without any obligations than having to pay them some euros.

Norjan

Norjan

06-24-12, 15:32

I am just glad that Norjan and myself seem to have decidedly different tastes with regard to women. I bet Norjan is even happier with this.

AMRight on Angus, right on.

Norjan

Norjan

06-24-12, 15:46

I do troll Norjan a bit with regard to his phobias and neuroses I admit. But what I do not understand is how anyone who thinks too much about the whole thing can even bother with paid sex. AMLike I've said before, it's because of the thrill. And because of the easiness to fuck as many hot looking girls that I want without them wanting a relationship with me afterwards.

It's just the other dudes in the place that bothers me.

Norjan

Member #4285

06-24-12, 21:38

I've said before that I think some guys are more or less "immune" to STD:s because of their mongering lifestyle year after year so I agree with you.

But I'm not a monger.

I just see a thrill in fucking 3-4 porn star looking girls, having a threesome with blonde, silicone boobed beauties etc in the same evening without any obligations than having to pay them some euros.

NorjanExactly my cup of tea. I do not go to FKK to play boy / girlfriend. I go there to live out some fantasies. And I prefer as much silicon as possible, preferably with a lot of makeup, slutty clothes and cheap translucent high heels = P.

But I have no problem with kissing girls either so.

Rocketboy0

06-24-12, 22:47

Well, since we are all in true confessions mode, I might as well admit it. I go there because.....

I just like taking showers with the guys.

Sucker17

06-24-12, 23:13

I just like taking showers with the guys.LOL, I guess it was good you let out some "steam"?

Member #4285

06-25-12, 03:24

Well, since we are all in true confessions mode, I might as well admit it. I go there because.

I just like taking showers with the guys.Well, one time a dude acted very strange. I'm very easy going and have no problems to get in contact and talk to strangers but this guy seemed little strange after a while. Even the girls shouted "you are 100% gay" to him. Not the usual "are you guys gay because you're talking to each other rather then fucking? (with a smile on their lips)" if you go with friends or hang out with some one between the sessions. They did not like him at all, and yes, he was very strange.

Ha ha. I guess for some people its worth the 80 E to see halfnaked men.

Angus Magee

06-25-12, 12:34

I guess for some people its worth the 80 E to see halfnaked men.Seriously, if a guy is into showering with naked men there are way better and less expensive options available in Berlin.

Just ask RB. ;)

AM

Norjan

06-25-12, 18:01

They did not like him at all, and yes, he was very strange.

Ha ha. I guess for some people its worth the 80 E to see halfnaked men.I always wait until there are no other person in the showers until I shower. You could never tell.

I really dislike having to see naked men and just the thought of that someone actually might be a gay is to horrible to even think about.

On my next visit, I think I will have some girls joining me in the showers. That would be something.

Norjan

ZimmerBaby

06-25-12, 19:43

I always wait until there are no other person in the showers until I shower. You could never tell.I am confused by your obsessive compulsive disorder fetish. Is this the only way you can cum?

:-)

STD-hugs from the zimmer.

Norjan

06-25-12, 19:53

I am confused by your obsessive compulsive disorder fetish. Is this the only way you can cum?

STD-hugs from the zimmer.WTF do you mean?

Norjan

Galazy

06-25-12, 20:00

Friday 22nd of June

I paid a visit to the famous club on a beautiful sunny day in Berlin. I arrived at 15. 30 or so paid in, got my robe, got changed and headed into the main bar. There was a good crowd of women and maybe 25 men present. I recognised some of the girls including Nina and Jenna. After a few circuits and a sauna I decided to choose my first girl. After refusing a couple of come-ons I opted for:

Marianna from Romenia (Pictured on website)

We had a good chat in the bar before heading upstairs. She's thin, quite tall and has a few peircings. We started off with some slow kissing before moving to the bed. I kissed my way down her body and tounged her beautiful pussy while she moaned and squirmed. After a few minutes I lay down and she started blowing me. She has a fine BJ technique but was a little 'toothy' at times. I'd not had sex for a while and hadn't jerked off in a week so this wasn't going to be a long session. She put a condom on my cock and climbed oboard. She started in reverse cowgirl and I spanked her ass as she grinded away. I span her around and she bounced up and down until I came long and hard. A very good session and a fine start to the day.

I took a break and smoked some cigarettes before making the rounds and looking for round 2. I spotted a girl that had caught my eye a few time during the course of the afternoon. So I stopped her we had a chat and moved upstairs. This was:

Angeliana from Germany

She is quite short, has a narrow waste and BIG fake tits. She reminded me a lot of porn star Charity Bangs.

Unfortunatly this was not a good session. Despite a nice vibe in the bar her attitute in the room was terrible. She was very put out that I wasn't in the market for any extras and told me in no uncertain terms that I was asking a lot for the basic e60 session. I wasn't asking for anything above a standard suck and fuck but she was pretty pissed off. I should have bailed on the session but I had a raging erection and my cock was doing the thinking for me. Once we got down the business things didn't improve. She gave a below average BJ and when we started fucking she made several complaints that my 'big cock' was hurting her pussy. In all the sex I've had over the years (paid for or otherwise) I've never had a girl tell me my cock was too big. I shifted forward during the cowgirl becase my head was hitting off the mirrow behind the bed and she screamed in 'pain' saying I had hurt her again. This was the final straw for me so I asked her to get into doggie style and fucked her until I finished. Bad, bad session. And a definite one to avoid in the future.

Took another break and had some dinner (good fish and potatoes) before picking my next girl. After the disappointment of session 2 I wanted to make sure I picked the right girl. So after a lot of convesations I went upstairs with:

Alisha (sp?) from Hungry.

She is an absolutly stunning girl with long brown hair, beautiful brown eyes and wonderful natural eyes.

This was a really good session. Nothing spectacular just great sex with an awesome girl. We went through the standard position and because this was my 3rd girl of the day I was not going to finish quickly. There was no complaint from Alisha about the intensity of the sex or the changes of position. After coming we had a nice chat before heading downstairs. This was a lot of fun and she is an almost certain repeat.

After this session I was wiped out for a while so I went downstairs to watch the football. There was a great atmosphere in the bar with loads of mongers and girls enjoying the match. Lots of cheering and everyone (except any Greeks present I suppose) had a great time.

With the final whistle going it was times for my last session.

Alexandra from Romania.

Alexandra reminded me of a much younger Tracy Ullman. A very pretty brunette with great natural tits. Alas her tits where the best thing about this session. She proceede to give me one of the worst blow jobs I've ever had. Her technique consisted of licking around the head for a couple of seconds before jacking it for a few seconds then repeat. She would not entertain any instruction from me and was only sucking my cock her way. I understand the job these women do is incredibly difficult but there needs to some willingness to accept criticism or to be willing to listen to their customers requests. The session didn't improve and I was glad to finish and get out of there. Again, I should have bailed on the session but I'm a weak man.

So, overall the was not my best ever trip to The A. 2 good sessions and 2 terrible. 2 girls added to the do-not-repeat list. And the glimpses of the beautiful June sunshine occasionally coming through gaps in the curtains makes me hope the work on the outside area will be complete soon.

Thank you to everyone who takes the time to write-up there experiences.

Angus Magee

06-25-12, 20:07

WTF do you mean?

NorjanI think that is an invite to a bareback gang bang unless I miss my guess.

;)

Norjan seems like he is ready for sloppy 52nds

AM

Rocketboy0

06-25-12, 21:53

I am confused by your obsessive compulsive disorder fetish. Is this the only way you can cum?

STD-hugs from the zimmer.
I think that is an invite to a bareback gang bang unless I miss my guess.

Norjan seems like he is ready for sloppy 52nds AM

Boys, boys- let´s all take a deep breath before this goes "Kiev-y" (read their thread, which sometimes could use a a rabies shot).

Let's all just relax a little. Maybe a group shower?

Rocketboy0

06-26-12, 09:30

Friday 22nd of JuneSo, overall the was not my best ever trip to The A. 2 good sessions and 2 terrible. 2 girls added to the do-not-repeat list.G-great reports, very useful, the way it should be. Sorry you had to take a few shots (Fuck Flack?) for the troops. It happens.

SuppenHuhn

06-26-12, 17:39

http://d.hamburger-girls.com/go.hk?ziel=modelle/angelina152201/index.htm&aktion=neu&zahl=100

Some very old pics.

Occultus

06-27-12, 04:00

I was at Artemis about a month ago with Sucker17. That is, my two days in Berlin converged with two on his tour. Besides being a great wing man, he also has great skills as a tour guide, thanks to an expansive mental map of the city, in spite of only having made a few trips. Needless to say, he knew the way to Artemis.

I haven't written or browsed the forums much recently. I needed once again to resist the stranglehold mongering had over my mind, and that meant no ISG. Right now, I intend a simple report, but a story once started tends to assume a life of it's own. I understand that many members prefer the facts, the useful information, are surely tired of hearing of Noobie-X's initiation into their 'wonderful world', which is just paysex. But I think some people are also entertained by the stories. To put it simply, sometimes the subjectivity of Monger-X is the data, subjective impressions are in fact objects of study.

Evelina - Hungary

As soon as I entered the club, I was tempted to fuck a blonde (or two) with big tits, silikonisiert of course. But I was still dressed. After bathroom, shower, donning the robe, she was gone. Maybe I saw her again, but delay had made me critical, so there was no recognition.

It was early on Saturday, the selection was decent. But I was in the real world: there were a few hot girls, nothing amazing. All good, though: this was after all highly affordable paysex, after all.

Well, I found a girl with a face and hairstyle that appealed to me, not to mention perfectly smooth skin and rather large enhanced breasts. Evelina from Hungry. As were walking to the room, I was touching her. She said, annoyingly, 'No touching yet, not til we get to the room'. Well, I just ignored her.

In the room, she wouldn't spread her legs properly, citing the shape of my dick. Well, I liked her body and I still had plenty of money: 'Look, let's make a deal: I'll cum on your tits and pay 50 extra, if you spread your legs'. She smiled, spread her legs all the way, the motion smoothed. And the resolution of antagonism also ignited a chemistry (though of course money lubes the wh0re's personality).

Virginia - Hungary

Blonde optickfick with silicon boobs, and if I recall, no tattoo on her lower back, the absence somehow enhancing her butt. For when we get so used to seeing the tattoo, its absence becomes a special case of the tattoo - the new cool, so to speak. The decision was made because, of all the competition, my eyes were most fascinated by her when she walked by, my internal monologue terminated by her body.

Bussa - Turkey

Legally a German citizen of course of Turkish descent. Named her fake boobs after her doctor, who also removed her love handles apparently, though her physique suggested it unnecessary. Whereas with the previous girls, I did not bother talking much with them before going to the room (I had tired of having any sort of selection strategy) , she eagerly made conversation about any and all things. She had just arrived for work, full of energy on account of natural sources or other. I get the impression she likes to make the sex, really the interaction, seem as real as possible, as though we met in a bar or in a club - but of course quickly have sex: for as she said, 'I really need the money' in tones of sad innocence. Genuinely seemed new on the job, because she was unaware of the skill other girls have, putting the condom on with the mouth. She was also honest about the time - which besides a nice personality, also suggests she's new ;-) I told her that sooner or later, like the scowling girls with tattoos, she'd become a 'weibliche Kriminelle': she laughed and disagreed: 'I'm always happy'.

Esther - Czech

A more experienced lady of the night, with a face expressing experience rather than innocence, ignorance (or, 'still beautiful in spite of years of sin'). And a very toned, fit body with silicon breasts ('nature and art had been kind to her'). Overall very GFE ('misty impressionism'), a nice contrast to the optiks ('hard contours') from earlier. Only downside: the highly audible Bahn going by the room. 'Nicht so erotik' I said - she prefers German over English. I unconditionally recommend her. Not many words come to mind, just a warm feeling. The touch of a truly feminine hand, the warmth of the time before time.

Cony - Bulgaria

Writing the name as she pronounced it. Girl with an edgy, challenging look on her face, silicon tits, demon tattoo on her back. When she was free, I took her (or she took me) upstairs, no preliminaries needed, I knew what I wanted. The seemingly most-hardened girls have something to hide, sometimes they open up behind closed doors. And she still had a porno body.

Amalia - Romania

Blonde with a beach body, delightful tan, perfect breasts, I did not know whether they contained silicon until I held them. Again, decision made without any conversation. She was walking toward the dance pole. I rose to snatch her. We were a diameter away, but moving in the same direction. I changed my direction and she realized what I meant. My eyes had been focusing on her abs, her breasts, the entire night before. Now I would slake my lust. Experienced, confident, knows how to interact with mongers. Tattoo of a male's name on her body. 'Boyfriend? '. 'No, I would never tattoo one of their names on my body. He is my son. ' Suggested to me that the archetype of the mother and child is really the wh0re and her son. Is there a special tenderness to wh0res with sons, that their hands can touch us in ways that only mothers can know?

Mianda - Romania

Amalia recommended her sister, Mianda, whose beauty also imprisoned my eyes the night before. Well, I had fucked enough girls with silicon breasts, now I would fuck the legitimately most beautiful girl in the club. Caught her by the spiral staircase. 'Ready? ' I asked. She was, so arm in arm up the stairs. To backtrack a moment: right after I popped the question, the monger she had been trying to persuade for minutes changed his mind. 'Too late', she replied, as if to say, 'Don't you know? I'm a hot product. This body moves fast'. Not the greatest chemistry, but I would repeat with her. Rome wasn't built in thirty minutes. By fucking her I exorcised my demons, namely the memories of her nudity (from the night previous), saying 'You have not enjoyed this'.

Rocketboy0

06-27-12, 08:20

i think some people are also entertained by the stories. to put it simply, sometimes the subjectivity of monger-x is the data, subjective impressions are in fact objects of study.

suggested to me that the archetype of the mother and child is really the wh0re and her son. is there a special tenderness to wh0res with sons, that their hands can touch us in ways that only mothers can know?

my eyes were most fascinated by her when she walked by, my internal monologue terminated by her body.

mianda, whose beauty also imprisoned my eyes the night before. by fucking her i exorcised my demons, namely the memories of her nudity (from the night previous) , saying 'you have not enjoyed this'.o-while i indeed have more than a few quibbles about all this passing as literature (the "mother archetype" passage being a rather breath-taking example), if you need to express this, fine. i know well that there are fans of this "hunter thompson writes letter to penthouse" stuff, and you are not alone in writing it. it might even be therapeutic.

but what would also be helpful is just perhaps at the close of each little vignette, you just clearly state whether the session was good, and whether you would recommend or repeat. sometimes you do this, sometimes it's very difficult to know what it all meant. maybe you yourself don`t know? there are a fair number of non-english as mother- tongue-readers here for whom this clarity is really helpful. they may not always appreciate the fine differences between nonsense and non sequitur.

notice i did not say don't write musings or utter bollocks; just sum it up clearly at the end. for us cretins, simplicity also has its virtues.

Member #4285

06-27-12, 10:00

Last time in A. I hade a blond girl with silicon boobs and.. silicon lips! Never seen that in a FKK. Anyone know here name? I'm so bad on namnes, must be better and take my time to remember.

Sucker17

06-27-12, 16:33

Amalia. Romania

Blonde with a beach body, delightful tan, perfect breasts, I did not know whether they contained silicon until I held them. Again, decision made without any conversation. She was walking toward the dance pole. I rose to snatch her. We were a diameter away, but moving in the same direction. I changed my direction and she realized what I meant. My eyes had been focusing on her abs, her breasts, the entire night before. Now I would slake my lust. Experienced, confident, knows how to interact with mongers. Tattoo of a male's name on her body. 'Boyfriend? '. 'No, I would never tattoo one of their names on my body. He is my son. ' Suggested to me that the archetype of the mother and child is really the wh0re and her son. Is there a special tenderness to wh0res with sons, that their hands can touch us in ways that only mothers can know?Rocketboy: I agree with your comment, on some of the girls it is unclear if it was an enjoyable session or not, but then again, I don't really know if Occultus know if he liked them or not himself LOL! It was quite a pleasure reading these reviews, as I was there myself, but I somehow miss the long tales! What an experience to be with Occultus during these days in Artemis! The episode with Amalia just made me laugh again, because we were actually discussing something and suddenly I just see Occultus stands and try to fetch this girl, and she suddenly change and goes the opposite direction. It's impossible to explain, but it was just hilarious for me who was watching the show. This was not the only time I could chat with him and then he suddenly goes into trance and just walks away in order to catch a certain optifick that he has been looking for, then just short introduction and I see him and the chosen girl going the stairway to heaven. Nice selection process!

Sucker17

06-27-12, 16:36

Last time in A. I hade a blond girl with silicon boobs and. silicon lips! Never seen that in a FKK. Anyone know here name? I'm so bad on namnes, must be better and take my time to remember.Hope for your sake that it was not Nicole, blonde from Hungary. Everything was fake with her.

Belvaros

06-27-12, 16:51

Galazy

06-27-12, 18:03

I've had some great sessions with Amalia in the last year.

She's one of my favourite girls there.

Kimino

06-27-12, 18:08

Esther. Czech

A more experienced lady of the night, with a face expressing experience rather than innocence, ignorance (or, 'still beautiful in spite of years of sin'). And a very toned, fit body with silicon breasts ('nature and art had been kind to her'). Overall very GFE ('misty impressionism') , a nice contrast to the optiks ('hard contours') from earlier. Only downside: the highly audible Bahn going by the room. 'Nicht so erotik' I said. She prefers German over English. I unconditionally recommend her. Not many words come to mind, just a warm feeling. The touch of a truly feminine hand, the warmth of the time before time.A favorite!

Although I very rarely had the luck of being at Artemis when she was there. Don't know what her schedule is but I think she is not there always.

Maybe next time.

Kimino

Occultus

06-28-12, 00:02

o-while i indeed have more than a few quibbles about all this passing as literature (the "mother archetype" passage being a rather breath-taking example) , if you need to express this, fine. i know well that there are fans of this "hunter thompson writes letter to penthouse" stuff, and you are not alone in writing it. it might even be therapeutic.

but what would also be helpful is just perhaps at the close of each little vignette, you just clearly state whether the session was good, and whether you would recommend or repeat. sometimes you do this, sometimes it's very difficult to know what it all meant. maybe you yourself don`t know? there are a fair number of non-english as mother- tongue-readers here for whom this clarity is really helpful. they may not always appreciate the fine differences between nonsense and non sequitur.

notice i did not say don't write musings or utter bollocks; just sum it up clearly at the end. for us cretins, simplicity also has its virtues.rocketboy,

point taken: in the context of a forum providing information, i should have offered more definite conclusions.

so philosophical qualms aside, let's say i recommend esther and amalia the highest. bussa was good, but a bit of an ingenue. i would repeat with mianda, saw some potential there, although her skills in inducing the right mood lagged behind those of her sister. although i don't 'recommend' the optickficks, i don't say avoid them either: the non-recommendation just means don't expect more than what you see.

as for services, i was very satisfied with the 60 euro session at artemis, generally better than that at the palace for 50. all girls included dfk, except evelina and virginia who did only a little lfk, though about evelina, i am not 100% sure now. daty only with esther, only girl i felt like doing it with, which tells a lot about her skill in 'inducing the mood'.

in general no hard upsell, besides 'i want your cum in my mouth' with cony. 'you don't want my cum in your mouth, you want the 50 euros', i replied, to which she could only say, 'you think too much'. (and actually what i wrote about her was just something i was thinking about hardened, tattooed prostitutes in general.) mianda alluded to 'something special' during the blowjob. but no ultimatums indicating that the purchase of extras was required to maintain a tolerable level of service.

as for facilities in a: not as nice as they look in the pictures on the website, but overall they satisfied this customer. palace scores in its restriction of smoking and better bar service, but artemis probably has the better overall layout. overall, i like both clubs: each is the best comparison for the other.

i believe we have different ideas as to what literature is (or rather, what is kitsch). this contention aside, you certainly have a wit that can efficiently reveal itself, your reports being both valuable and brief. you represent the school of gentleman mongers well - whereas i epitomize the sociopathic scribblers ;-)

Rocketboy0

06-28-12, 07:54

Rocketboy, Point taken: in the context of a forum providing information, I should have offered more definite conclusions. You represent the school of gentleman mongers well - whereas I epitomize the sociopathic scribblers ;-)O Thanks, and thanks for the info. Nice to be appreciated by someone other than his mum (she is addicted to the Forum).
Although RB may be accused of many things, being a gentleman is most def not among them.

Member #4285

06-28-12, 09:28

Hope for your sake that it was not Nicole, blonde from Hungary. Everything was fake with her.
Tyra the blonde barbie German girl, yes?I'm not sure, but the name Virginia sounds familiar when I'm trying to think of the name. I think she had quite short blonde hair. I hade great fun in the kino with here. BJ and FS.

BTW, last time was the first time I went to a descent room upstairs. Been to Artemis maybe 5-6 times but never went there. Always BJ+FS in the kino or BJ in kino and then move on to the "curtain room" downstairs. Maybe I have a fetisch for doing it in "public", but its not so public, it is dark and hidden. I like the downstair kino more then the one in the smoking lounge. They say its okey to have sex on the sofa under the staircase on the ground floor, but no girl have been willing to do that yet (at least with me).

I am glad I am not living door to door with Artemis or another FKK. I guess I would be totaly sex-retarded in the end.

Angus Magee

06-28-12, 10:02

In general no hard upsell, besides 'I want your cum in my mouth' with Cony. 'You don't want my cum in your mouth, you want the 50 euros', I replied, to which she could only say, 'You think too much'. (And actually what I wrote about her was just something I was thinking about hardened, tattooed prostitutes in general.) Mianda alluded to 'something special' during the blowjob. But no ultimatums indicating that the purchase of extras was required to maintain a tolerable level of service.Occultus,

I for one enjoyed the report, philosophical ramblings and all. But then I am always a sucker for an archetype or two. The level of info was sufficient for my purposes, while perhaps not for those really looking for a recommendation.

As for Conny, this made me laugh as of course she is right. However it seems that her powers as an actress are either not up to snuff or she has stopped putting in the effort. I had the great pleasure of her company (assuming it is the same Conny and I believe it is from your description) with in her first couple of months of her starting at Artemis. This was before the boobs, many of the tattoos and certainly the hard cold exterior she now presents. When she wants to she can certainly provide a convincing porn style BJ that makes one almost believe that your man-juice is her elixir of life. At least this was my experience.

AM

Angus Magee

06-28-12, 10:09

They say its okey to have sex on the sofa under the staircase on the ground floor, but no girl have been willing to do that yet (at least with me).If it is really a thing for you, you might try on a very busy night when rooms are in short supply. Most of the public sex (out side the kino) I have seen at Artemis has been during times when room waits were long and the girls wanting to get it done as fast as possible.

AM

Member #4285

06-28-12, 11:02

When she wants to she can certainly provide a convincing porn style BJ that makes one almost believe that your man-juice is her elixir of life. At least this was my experience.Talking about BJ's. Last time in Artemis I went with Daisy again. She lost some weight and looked even better this time then one year ago. I like her due to her personality and amazing cute face and eyes. Except the lost of weight I remember the DT. I sat in the Kino downstairs and she gave one of the most amazing DT. Her mouth is quite small and maybe my friend is too, but she took it almost all way in. She thrusted her mouth like there was no tomorrow. I could not shut up and moaned like a retard. Amazing BJ.

UShobbyist

06-28-12, 17:18

. I sat in the Kino downstairs and she gave one of the most amazing DT. Her mouth is quite small and maybe my friend is too, but she took it almost all way in. She thrusted her mouth like there was no tomorrow. I could not shut up and moaned like a retard. Amazing BJ.So you don't have to go to the zimmers to have sex. Is sex in public place very popular in FKK Artemis?

Antex

06-29-12, 01:22

So you don't have to go to the zimmers to have sex. Is sex in public place very popular in FKK Artemis?You don't have to go to zimmer. How popular it is I don't know but I've often seen BJ in Kino and on some occasions intercourse both in Kino and upstairs in the small "tents" by the bar (which obviously was not allowed without the curtains were drawn).

Member #4285

06-29-12, 04:19

So you don't have to go to the zimmers to have sex. Is sex in public place very popular in FKK Artemis?Not every one likes to do it in "public". Some girls does only give BJs and then you have to move to a room for FS meanwhile some girls go for FS in a kino. Some girls will not even give you a BJ. Just ask them, but yes, there is often action in the kinos. FKK Palace in Frankfurt has the biggest kino (I have seen in a FKK).

Granthree

06-29-12, 13:40

I'm not sure, but the name Virginia sounds familiar when I'm trying to think of the name. I think she had quite short blonde hair. I hade great fun in the kino with here. BJ and FS.

BTW, last time was the first time I went to a descent room upstairs. Been to Artemis maybe 5-6 times but never went there. Always BJ+FS in the kino or BJ in kino and then move on to the "curtain room" downstairs. Maybe I have a fetisch for doing it in "public", but its not so public, it is dark and hidden. I like the downstair kino more then the one in the smoking lounge. They say its okey to have sex on the sofa under the staircase on the ground floor, but no girl have been willing to do that yet (at least with me).

I am glad I am not living door to door with Artemis or another FKK. I guess I would be totaly sex-retarded in the end.And totaly broke! .

I've only been at Artemis (or any FKK for that matter) once, and the last girl gave me a BJ in the kino "out in public". I'm that type of person that's so ashamed of my body that I don't even go to the public swimming pool, but somehow it didn't bother me to get a blowjob in front og 5-6 people. So weird. .

BTW:

Does anyone know a girl from the Netherlands, she was around 30. Brown hair in a style like Victoria Beckham, short in the neck. Can't even remember if she had tattoos. She asked me if I liked her hair, she was considering coloring it blonde.

Granthree

06-29-12, 13:43

If it is really a thing for you, you might try on a very busy night when rooms are in short supply. Most of the public sex (out side the kino) I have seen at Artemis has been during times when room waits were long and the girls wanting to get it done as fast as possible.

AMSo what happens? Do they get fully naked, do they perform and make a show of it, or do they get in their own little world and mentally block out all the on-lookers?

And does there form a crowd, is there cheering? Or does people just walk by, sit on the couch and ignore them or what?

This interests me a big deal. Thanks.

Brazil Specialist

06-29-12, 18:10

I am not familiar with Sudfass, tell more bitteTalked about Sudfass in "Brazil Specialist's German FKK tour"

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area

Angus Magee

06-30-12, 06:42

So what happens? Do they get fully naked, do they perform and make a show of it, or do they get in their own little world and mentally block out all the on-lookers?

And does there form a crowd, is there cheering? Or does people just walk by, sit on the couch and ignore them or what?

This interests me a big deal. Thanks.It really depends I would say. But generally people watch without being too obvious about it. Us accelerated primates have a great curiosity of the mating habits of others.

I must say though that Artemis is not the place to go for this as pubic sex outside the kino is the exception rather than the rule. That is I have seen it happen from time to time but it is not a daily thing.

AM

Charlie 123

07-01-12, 19:28

In general no hard upsell, besides 'I want your cum in my mouth' with Cony. 'You don't want my cum in your mouth, you want the 50 euros', I replied10 out of 10 in the 'Realistic Approach' category. Less high-scoring perhaps in terms of 'Bagging a GFE at a FKK Club'.

Some no-obligation suggestions as to other ways to interact with working girls can be found here.

http://www.angusmagee.com/

Best.

C

SinglePro

07-02-12, 05:15

I just came back from my first visit few weeks ago and probably last visit to Artemis even though I'm a frequent FKK monger. I seem to read so much good stuff about Artemis, so I paid a visit on Saturday there while visiting Berlin the first time. I must say that there were quite few eye candies there, but that's where the praise ends. I have to say Artemis really sucks. None of the hot candies, especially the German ones, allowed DFK. Sure, there were few who didn't mind DFK, but they're usually the ones from Romania or Hungary or Moldova and are usually not the attractive ones. So, why bother. Most of the hot chics are sharks.

I approached a long hair tall German blond named, coincidentally, Candy who has a nice playboy figure with natural big tits. She refused to go to the room by herself. She only wanted to go if her friend can come along to have a three somes. She doesn't allow DFK. Then, I talked to another shoulder length German blond named Nataly (or something) who is from Hamburg. Even though she is not exactly my type because of her silicon tits, I decided to chat with her to see how she's like. She's very articulate and polite and college educated. As I found out in our conversation, she doesn't offer kissing and only does CBJ. Huh, CBJ in a FKK club? Are you kidding me? I moved on to the next blond. She is a tall thin blond local girl from Berlin. She said that DFK is for boyfriend only. Obviously, I didn't go with any of them. I ended up going to the room with a Hungary chic who didn't mind DFK, but she was not exactly my type in terms of look and body. To me, Artemis is just a Berlin version of Palace where the girls get used to rip off tourists and provide minimum service. If you're interest in natural blond and expect passionate DFK, Artemis probably is not the place for you. I'll just stick with those clubs in NWR and Frankfurt. I'm done with Artemis.

Rocketboy0

07-02-12, 07:33

ZimmerBaby

07-02-12, 08:06

I have to say Artemis really sucks. I'm done with Artemis.It's over! :(

http://bit.ly/NcQce5

Hessen Bub

07-02-12, 09:36

Most of the hot chics are sharks.

To me, Artemis is just a Berlin version of Palace where the girls get used to rip off tourists and provide minimum service. If you're interest in natural blond and expect passionate DFK, Artemis probably is not the place for you. I'll just stick with those clubs in NWR and Frankfurt. I'm done with Artemis.I agree, Artemis can be a letdown if it comes to German girls and GFE. But this is true for almost all the clubs, even at Oase (Marie) and World (Jeanette) you find girls who will not DFK or LFK you. But. There's also a lot of good service providers. Read the local German boards.

HB

Angus Magee

07-02-12, 12:04

I spent the past Saturday evening prowling the halls of Artemis in the company of Rocketboy and the ever present providers of delight we have all come to expect and, hopefully appreciate.

Arrival time this weekend was 19:00. Of note is the ever rising new wing being raised from the parking lot. One does have to wonder, with the increased capacity of Artemis, where they will be parking the cars. I found myself wondering if a car valet service will be offered when the extension opens, and if so, maybe RB and myself should apply to run such a service.

The crowd of mongers seemed a little thin to me as I arrived, and likewise there seemed to me an higher than usual volume of ladies in the bar by 20:00. But things must have been okay for the ladies as the room waits, if anything, seemed longer than usual by around 22:00-23:00.

I was hoping for a repeat with a young lady (Nicole, Czech) I had session-ed with on my previous visit. (not to be confused with Hungarian Nicole who has recently received some negative reviews here) Trouble was it has been two months and I was not entirely clear what she looked like other than tall, blond and, IMO, beautiful. Mostly I was just counting on the hope that I would know her when I saw her. The fact though that I was not certain that she was there made for a few uncertain moments in the darkness of the bar. Finally I went to the desk and asked, to be told that in fact she was not signed in for the evening and it was doubtful that she would be there.

None of my fall backs were there and so I was preparing myself for perhaps a dry run when I happened upon Susie at the bar. Blond, beautiful, personable and a German native we chatted (she speaks perfect English) for a few minutes and then decided to head up stairs and get in line for a room. As mentioned there was quite a back up on the second floor and things did get a bit ugly with girl disagreeing about who was first and even accusations of line jumping, a typical Berlin activity if super market lines are anything to go by.

Susie turned out to be a good solid choice. She is a very professional provider with a long list of extras offered (pretty much anything you can think of except heavy perversions) and I am sure she would do them all well. We even had a discussion about anal and I suspect that if one were so inclined she would be a very good choice for this from looking at her ass.

My only caveat with here is that she has no sense of maintaining any illusions as to why we are there. As I say she is a pro. This need not be a bad thing but I would never call her a GFE. One slightly odd thing that she mentioned is that her sister works at Artemis as well and they offer a full lesbi-show session for those who want a sister act. Are the really sisters? I tend to think so, she pointed her sister out and it is believable if not fully obvious. They are sisters, but not twins. In any case I was not in the market for this particular fantasy scenario but I do think if anyone has the desire these two might just be worth the expense.

My own session was very vanilla, perhaps to her disappointment but I did not feel that she pulled back on the service as a result. The sex was fine and after we spent some time together talking and she seemed in no hurry to leave the room.

A quick note on SinglePro's thoughts about Artemis and the GFE-I do agree with some of what he says. Certainly the Artemis crew can be a wee mercenary in their approach to sex and especially on the busier nights there are some pretty serious pros prowling the carpets.

However, to say that the GFE is impossible just shows a lack of patience and perhaps too narrow a view of the type of ladies that one goes after. Tall, blond German ice queens are in high demand and the ladies know it. I think if you just go after this type anywhere you will have a hard time finding a GFE. Especially on a Saturday when things are full force you really have to bide your time and be patient. In any case, for me GFE's are sessions that I usually do not expect but am simply happy when they happen.

AM

Rocketboy0

07-02-12, 12:56

It's over! .

http://bit.ly/NcQce5Zimmerbaby. Beyond superb.

But, this could also convey the feeling one gets after a great elusive GFE German Ice Queen session, so it's a bit ambiguous. For those of you who click, the name Jenna cums to mind.

Angus- This car parking idea of yours has some merit. At the moment, if we could just park one car a day, it might double our income.
And maybe we could get some sort of staff di(ck)scount for parking other things inside Artemis.
Of course this does mean you (and I do mean you) will need a valid drivers license.
We could call it "Valets of the Dolls", with a nod to the stunningly trashy novel and films of the 60s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Dolls_(film) With Sharon Tate no less, during her pre Charles Manson phase.

Member #4285

07-02-12, 13:04

Susie turned out to be a good solid choice. She is a very professional provider with a long list of extras offered (pretty much anything you can think of except heavy perversions) and I am sure she would do them all well. We even had a discussion about anal and I suspect that if one were so inclined she would be a very good choice for this from looking at her ass.

My only caveat with here is that she has no sense of maintaining any illusions as to why we are there. As I say she is a pro. This need not be a bad thing but I would never call her a GFE. One slightly odd thing that she mentioned is that her sister works at Artemis as well and they offer a full lesbi-show session for those who want a sister act. Are the really sisters? I tend to think so, she pointed her sister out and it is believable if not fully obvious. They are sisters, but not twins. In any case I was not in the market for this particular fantasy scenario but I do think if anyone has the desire these two might just be worth the expense.Yes, she have a sister if we talking about the same person. Blond, a little short with curly hair right? And Susie has big silicon boobs? I have never seen Susie but her sister that I have some sessions with has told me about her. Could they really be sisters for real and do lesbo? I did not get that option. Sounds like a strange thing to do (IMO).

Belvaros

07-02-12, 13:21

Angus Magee

07-02-12, 14:36

yes, she have a sister if we talking about the same person. blond, a little short with curly hair right? and susie has big silicon boobs? i have never seen susie but her sister that i have some sessions with has told me about her. could they really be sisters for real and do lesbo? i did not get that option. sounds like a strange thing to do (imo).that was the sister's name but i only saw her at a distance. susie, med height i would say, blond but not curly, and man made breasts (a very good job) not particularly big, maybe 34 b or c?

is sister / sister [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) strange at the professional level? perhaps to some but i asked her about this and she seemed pretty level headed about it. it is what some punters want for their fantasy is basically what she said. [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) is after all a cultural taboo and thus largely conditioning. brother / sister [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) carries more weight for obvious reasons. so strange is very much a function of your conditioning not the act itself i wold say.

and i do think that they are sisters, with at least one common parent though we did not get into such details. if nothing else susie struck me as very straight and honest. you may not get a gfe from her but i feel you would always get your monies' worth.

am

Angus Magee

07-02-12, 14:39

Angus- This car parking idea of yours has some merit. At the moment, if we could just park one car a day, it might double our income.

And maybe we could get some sort of staff di (ck) scount for parking other things inside Artemis.

Of course this does mean you (and I do mean you) will need a valid drivers license.Actually I was think you would do all the actual work and I would sit back at the bar and be the brains of the outfit.

AM

Kimino

07-02-12, 14:40

Zimmerbaby. Beyond superb.Absolutely!

Lately it looks like the more I have fun in a club, the worse the reports are on the respective thread.

Very curious to check it out on late July.

Might also rent a car just to test the new car valet thing! :)

Ciao!

Angus Magee

07-02-12, 14:48

AVery curious to check it out on late July.!Just announced is the summer Schaumparty (foam party). Last year's was up on the roof with a foam machine and plentiful cocktails poured with a heavy hand on the booze. It is the only party I have ever actually enjoyed at Artemis.

July 18th unless Berlin weather is bad.

AM

Belvaros

07-02-12, 15:55

Sorry boss, I have to USE THAT PICTURE elsewhere. It is too fucking "gut"

Angus. July 18. Good I hope to be back there before then as Ramadan starts here in Maroc! FOAM and BEERS and Champers it is.

Roger Yahoo

07-02-12, 15:55

Hi,

Just back from 4 sunny days in Berlin.

ARTEMIS, closed to the Westkreuz S-Bahn, very easy to go with metro!

Was a bit disappointed, for me I felt not so comfortable like in other fkk (e. G. Samya)

Girls are too professional and not enough GFE (I've tried 9 girls in 2 days) ; I've founded two exceptions but I can't remember their name. (not so important because it's just a question of feeling, what for me good is maybe for you is shit!). Very sexy girls!

Be careful: a lot of professional Romanians doing sex like machine without feeling. They say there are German or from an other country (Spain) , their German is quite good, difficult for you to make any differences!

Caligula Club (bottom of Kuerfuerstendamm). Horrible place: you pay 100 Euros and everything is included: drinks and sex with the girls available, the all night! Poor girls, the customers are disgusting, that's not normal that such places exist! I asked myself if it's legal?

Enjoy.

Rogers

Sucker17

07-02-12, 17:46

Might also rent a car just to test the new car valet thing! .

Ciao!Could we share the same car, so we don't have to pay double to those two shady but scrupulous guys who do the valet parking?

Kimino

07-02-12, 19:57

Could we share the same car, so we don't have to pay double to those two shady but scrupulous guys who do the valet parking?A very good idea!

Ahaha.

Kimino

Sucker17

07-02-12, 20:53

ARTEMIS, closed to the Westkreuz S-Bahn, very easy to go with metro!

Was a bit disappointed, for me I felt not so comfortable like in other fkk (e. G. Samya)

Girls are too professional and not enough GFEWhat's up with all this negativity towards Artemis and girls being too pro? I mean, I don't say you're wrong, but I certainly doubt that one of my favourite FKKs has changed so dramatically in one month! I've never been to Samya, but my impression of A is that: Yes, you find girls that are, and act professional, like you'll do in most other FKKs, but if you choose wisely you'll find girls that do give you the GFE-feeling. Although I have to admit that since my first visit to A in November 2011, I feel that the service has gone towards a more PSE / Silicon Valley route. You might have been unlucky with your choice of girls, but from my 4 days visit during last week of May, I was only disappointed once.

Caligula Club (bottom of Kuerfuerstendamm). Poor girls, the customers are disgusting, that's not normal that such places exist!You are probably correct about Caligula, but are only the other customers disgusting?

Rocketboy0

07-02-12, 23:35

What's up with all this negativity towards Artemis and girls being too pro? I mean, I don't say you're wrong, but I certainly doubt that one of my favourite FKKs has changed so dramatically in one month!While quite busy trying to get this new valet parking service going, in the middle of the huge construction project for the new wing, I did manage a brief pit stop inside, as was reported, while trying help to keep Dass Dude's sperm levels down to below his eyes. IMHO, the lineup is pretty weak at the moment.

To be fair to Artemis, in case you have not noticed, it is summertime. Not all, but a lot of the better girls are gone simply now, on holidays, and are likely to remain so til early-mid Aug. Not to say you won't have a good time, and this is as always a taste and attitude thing. But for you true cuntaseurs, the InterCity Expresses have left the Love Bahnhoff, and what remains are mostly just the local and regional trains. Arts is not what it should be, and usually is. There has indeed been a big change in the past several weeks.

Kimino

07-03-12, 08:16

What's up with all this negativity towards Artemis and girls being too pro? I mean, I don't say you're wrong, but I certainly doubt that one of my favourite FKKs has changed so dramatically in one month!There's negativity towards different FKKs. I've been visiting a couple of times Palace recently, had a GREAT time and kept reading horrible reports about people being almost ripped off or sharked by girls often giving a terrible service.

If I didn't know the places and was to trust the reports blindly I would never visit them.

I have no reasons for not believing the honesty behind those reports but I don't trust the judjements in them. It's not just a matter of tastes, it's a matter of how people are, how they relate to others and to girls, their background, the environment in which they grew etc. Etc. We are all different and we appreciate different things.

The only info I find usefull are descriptions of the places (to have an idea) , logistics, maybe prices and general info. All the rest is too personal.

If I know personally the people writing the report, it's a different matter.

My2cents.

Ciao.

Kimino

Angus Magee

07-03-12, 11:24

There's negativity towards different FKKs. I've been visiting a couple of times Palace recently, had a GREAT time and kept reading horrible reports about people being almost ripped off or sharked by girls often giving a terrible service.

If I didn't know the places and was to trust the reports blindly I would never visit them.

I have no reasons for not believing the honesty behind those reports but I don't trust the judjements in them. It's not just a matter of tastes, it's a matter of how people are, how they relate to others and to girls, their background, the environment in which they grew etc. Etc. We are all different and we appreciate different things.

The only info I find usefull are descriptions of the places (to have an idea) , logistics, maybe prices and general info. All the rest is too personal.

If I know personally the people writing the report, it's a different matter.

My2cents.

Ciao.

KiminoWell spoken Kimino. I know well that Artemis can be a bit "sharky" yet there are always girls there who are interested in having a good time with a sympathetic gentleman. One just sometimes needs to adjust one's expectations. My only observation is that Artemis would be improved if there was at the least one more medium to large FKK in town to provide much needed competition.

AM

Rocketboy0

07-03-12, 11:39

My only observation is that Artemis would be improved if there was at the least one more medium to large FKK in town to provide much needed competition.

AMBut cripey, with the same valet parking service.

I mean, here you are, we haven't even started, and you are shooting the whole operation in the foot. And you are supposed to be the brains?
We're already losing money with Sucker17's very helpful (not) revealing of how to beat our pricing structure. Money we don't even have.
You are going to push us into pimping, and what lass in her right mind would be willing?

Sucker17

07-03-12, 16:23

There's negativity towards different FKKs. I've been visiting a couple of times Palace recently, had a GREAT time and kept reading horrible reports about people being almost ripped off or sharked by girls often giving a terrible service.

If I didn't know the places and was to trust the reports blindly I would never visit themGood point! In fact some reviews from clubs or even particular girls can be completely different from your own experience. It's probably a very good thing that we don't have the same taste, but when reading reviews on girls or clubs, it gives you only a subjective POV which can differ from your own. I do have had some good times in Palace myself, but I always want to hit myself for spending too much money. When I exited World once after sessions with approx same no. Of girls as in Palace, I was surprised to see that I'd spent much less than what I initially thought. The chicks seemed more than happy with 50 E sessions. That's why I prefer Oase and World. Your background is also an important clue to the clubs you would prefer. We always get attracted to the exotic girls you don't see back home, don't you? Being used to blonde girls with blue / green eyes, I tend to stick to the Romanian / Bulgarian hotties, while I rarely pick German girls (because they look more the same as the girls back home).

Now if a newbie reads this forum, he'll be convinced there's actually a valet parking outside A, driven by two shady characters. ROFL!

Kimino

07-03-12, 17:51

We always get attracted to the exotic girls you don't see back home, don't you? Being used to blonde girls with blue / green eyes, I tend to stick to the Romanian / Bulgarian hotties, while I rarely pick German girlsNever though about that.

In northern Italy we do have a lot of nice girls but probably non very easily classified in some standard, probably because they just look "normal" to me so I can't actually see the common traits (if that's the word). The blonde barbie model common to some german / Polish girl definitely attracts me some times. Like Joy at Palace or Violetta at Artemis, just to make an example. I do like a lot the contrast between dark hair and blue or gray eyes that is so common in Romanian / bulgarian girls. Usually they are also better in using make up, or simply use it in a way I like more. Some girls from Turkey, usually with black hair and dark eyes are absolutely fantastic IMO.

All this is obviously an extreme generalization, but just to give you the idea.

Some times I'm attracted by the super young kinky look of girls like Ivy at Artemis, other times I'm more into the milfy kind. Asian and black girls (or even close to black) simply don't attract me sexually. I'm not into big boobs.

But what really makes the difference, is a smile. You can be the cutest of the girls but if you go around looking like a serial killer (as many girls do) you just blow it. Maybe not the best of expressions but you know what I mean.

That's my profile. Ahahaha.

Kimino

CruelG

07-03-12, 19:54

Member #4285

07-03-12, 22:25

Angus Magee

07-03-12, 22:43

By coincidence, the Artemis foam party is the 18th July. Have anyone been there before, see that you get two "energy drinks" but that in itself does not seem so exciting even if it is appreciated. Do you dance on the roof with the girls, maybe even have a session in the middle of the foam?

Those of you who have been there before, please give some thoughts about the spectacle. If it sounds funny, I may switch off the planned visit to: Erlebniswohnung Gang Bang Club.My short review from last year.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1187961&viewfull=1#post1187961

I remember it as a good time even though it does appear I left ungepoppt.

AM

SuppenHuhn

07-03-12, 22:59

atKimino.

Joy from Palace works in Artemis this time.

Last week she was there.

StimmtSo

07-04-12, 01:14

If ever the old football cliche could be applied in a sexual sphere then my latest trip to Berlin would certainly qualify.

Having suffered the indignation of a German defeat stood, beer and bratwurst in hand, for a soul and body-numbing 6 hours on the fanmeile the previous day I was in desperate need of a little consolatory pampering. So after an afternoon visit to Kashima (more of which in the Berlin thread,) I made my way to Westkreuz and engaged in the ritualistic walk of shame to Artemis. (Is it my own paranoia or does everyone, from the people standing in the station car park to the occupants of every car that passes you by en-route, seem to know EXACTLY where you're headed?)

Upon entering the club I inhaled deeply on it's distinct and unique perfume and paid the Mamasan (mentally noting to ask her sometime if she'd ever sued her charm school!) I then showered, changed and made my way downstairs to the bar for a quick glass of juice expectantly hoping to get a glimpse of the celestial bodies of either Nina or Fatima. It had been a year since I had last enjoyed their exquisite services, a year during which I had tortured myself by slavishly carrying their images as part of my mental baggage. Those beautifully innocent yet all-knowing faces, those tanned, pert and perfectly rounded arses, those delectable breasts.

Anyhow, as I was grudgingly given a drink by another dropout from the berlin school of charm and deportment, I was attacked, and there is no better way to describe it, by two German girls who were trying to sell a threesome. I just sat there agog as they reeled off what they were going to do to me, and indeed each other. This preordained spiel went on in breathless, heavily panting German for at least a couple of minutes during which I just couldn't get a word in edgeways! Eventually they paused for breath long enough for me to tell them that I had just arrived and that I wanted to get acclimatised before making any decisions. This just seemed to spur them on to greater heights of verbal aggravation, it seemed that these girls weren't taking no for an answer! I resorted to politely (I know no other way,) repeating my previous answer and they eventually sauntered off indignantly. Well as indignantly as one can in 6 inch heels!

My drink finished and my defences up I decided to pop into the Kino to see if there was any action but as I turned I noticed a familiar pair of buttocks being kneeded on the massage table by the pool. It was Fatima! (I recognised the feint, sun-bleached blond downy hair at the top of her ass crack!) Anyway it turned out that she had finished her shift and was getting a massage before going home. Disaster!

Slightly deflated I made my way up the winding staircase and stood guard at the top. I have figured, along with a lot of other punters I'm sure, that as the best girls are always in demand, they are more likely to be encountered coming down the stairs from the rooms. After 15 minutes, most of which were spent fending off shark attacks, I heard a familiar voice.

"Hello you."

I turned around and was met with the vision that is Nina! After a brief chat during which she remembered my name, the room we had previously sessioned in and my favourite sexual foibles she asked whether I would like to spend some more time with her. WOULD I EVER!

The sight of her peachy arse as we mounted the stairs hand in hand will stay in my mind always, as will the smouldering look she gave me with those stunning brown eyes as she gazed up at me during fellatio.

After a session which left me floating on air we went our separate ways and I headed towards the restaurant. After an adequate meal (Egon Ronay it wasn't though,) I checked out the main bar. By this time however it was seriously heaving in there and the combination of heat, smoke and pumping music was just a bit too much for my sensitive disposition and I decided to seek out the relative sanctuary of the wellness area, not before noticeing a gang of Chinese guys walking around laughing and grabbing the tits and arses of any girl within reach as if it was some kind of sport. They were not amused!

To cut a long story short I spent the next few hours fending off sharks whilst the place became increasingly more crowded and the atmosphere more uncomfortable. This wasn't the Artemis that I knew and I decided to cut my losses and ship out. Whilst planning my trip to Berlin I had intended to come to Artemis twice, but the way I was feeling now that was in doubt.

Rocketboy0

07-04-12, 09:19

I do like a lot the contrast between dark hair and blue or gray eyes...I'm not into big boobs. That's my profile. Ahahaha.KiminoK-Cripey, this could be me. From now on, you walk in front.

Member #4285

07-04-12, 10:02

@Kimino.
Joy from Palace works in Artemis this time.
Last week she was there.
I wounder if the service is the same..

Angus Magee

07-04-12, 18:00

Thanks for the report Stimmt. Sounds like you have to work on arrival times. Come early, grab Fatima (she usually works days) then stay until Nina arrives and head off before the crowds get too much.

I made my way to Westkreuz and engaged in the ritualistic walk of shame to Artemis. (Is it my own paranoia or does everyone, from the people standing in the station car park to the occupants of every car that passes you by en-route, seem to know EXACTLY where you're headed?)Well they probably don't, but it helps to work on the tourist's trot where you look admiringly all around you while heading without hesitation over the bridge. Feint left after the sign and there you go no one none the wiser.

AM

StimmtSo

07-04-12, 19:28

Thanks for the report Stimmt. Sounds like you have to work on arrival times. Come early, grab Fatima (she usually works days) then stay until Nina arrives and head off before the crowds get too much.

Well they probably don't, but it helps to work on the tourist's trot where you look admiringly all around you while heading without hesitation over the bridge. Feint left after the sign and there you go no one none the wiser.

AMHahaha! I think that would only work if you could convince everyone that a tyre garage, a conference centre and a motorway were high on your list of Sehenswürdigkeiten!

Belvaros

07-06-12, 12:54

1. Do we have to tip the two spritely car parking guys (will that affect their service for repeat performances)

2. Does the foam at the party get into the foam of my beer or the cracks and sacks of attendees, DATY with dish-washing liquid is yukky from past experience.

3. See why'all on July 16th in Berlin, will try to get a few shots in at every Berlin place of ill-repute reported so admirably here and at Sir Angus' website.

"Party on Wayne"

Granthree

07-06-12, 22:47

I do like a lot the contrast between dark hair and blue or gray eyes that is so common in Romanian / bulgarian girls. Usually they are also better in using make up, or simply use it in a way I like more. Some girls from Turkey, usually with black hair and dark eyes are absolutely fantastic IMO.

All this is obviously an extreme generalization, but just to give you the idea.

Some times I'm attracted by the super young kinky look of girls like Ivy at Artemis, other times I'm more into the milfy kind. Asian and black girls (or even close to black) simply don't attract me sexually. I'm not into big boobs.

But what really makes the difference, is a smile. You can be the cutest of the girls but if you go around looking like a serial killer (as many girls do) you just blow it. Maybe not the best of expressions but you know what I mean.You are so right and what you are descriebing is probably the best advertisement for Artemis. The mixture of different types of women.

When I visited I was with a nice bulgarian women, smooth soft tanned skin etc. And later a black girl with a killer body. The variety is great. I also wished to be with a small petite girl that looked turkish, man she was smoking hot, natural breasts, slim body and raven dark hair. But never got around to it. Her alone makes me want to go back and try to find her.

I only saw one asian girl there. I have to be together with an asian girl before I die, just to say that I've "been around the world".

A smile is a must. I would rather go with a 5/10 that smiles and feels genuine, than a cold 10/10 shark.

Neworlean

07-08-12, 03:38

I really wanted to be blown away by this place but I wasn't. That doesn't mean that you will not have a good time. This was my first visit.

Initially I visited on a Tuesday at 2pm. When I first arrived I was disappointed by the selection. I only saw about 20girls and many of them were 5's. There was 3 or 4 8's but two of them had bad attitudes. Honestly, there was one girl who looked like a man.

One complaint I have about this place is that I paid approximately 100USD and there were not enough of a selection to pick from. When I told the front desk about it she told me there were 35 girls there and more would arrive later. I understand I went at a bad time, but I think my hundred dollar entry should ensure a good selection of women.

Also food is not available all day it is only available at certain time, but drinks are available all day. It was to cold to go outside in June.

So due to the limited selection, I decided to leave and come back later. If you want to come back on the same day there is no additional fee just tell the front desk and they will write down your locked number. This process is smooth and easy.

I came back later that night and there were more girls but not enough.

The place is not for me. In my unscientific count, but honest opinion, there were atleast a 150 guys hanging around and only 50 or so girls. The guys are all waiting in bath robes looking for a girl. When a good looking girl became available she would be taken in a few minutes. I felt like the place was full of half naked guys waiting around for a few chicks.

I like great service. I would prefer to pay more money have fewer guys and more chicks.

Therefore this place is not better than any brothel that you would find in South America or Asia, but it is in Europe where incomes and the standard of living is high so this maybe be as good as it gets.

I was just hoping for more, and was disappointed by the demographics (to many guys and not enough women). Also the place was boring when I was there. It did not have much to do. The women did not put on any shows or play any games.

However the upside to the place is the price. The girls were asking for 60 Euro per half an hour and that is cheaper than many other places in Berlin. I really wanted to like this place more, but I probably would not visit again. This was my first FKK experience, and I think maybe this place is not so good because it is in a large city.

Belvaros

07-08-12, 04:37

Neworlean

07-08-12, 07:48

Actually Colombia and Argentina are pretty great. I also actually posted just today that Capetown is a good place. Seems like you defensive about this place. Hope there are no hard feelings.

Rocketboy0

07-08-12, 09:27

I really wanted to be blown away by this place but I wasn't. Initially I visited on a Tuesday at 2pm. I think maybe this place is not so good because it is in a large city.Sorry this borders on the idiotic. First RTFF. It says repeatedly Sun-Tues are slower, day times are slower still. It is summer time and a lot of the best talent is away.

And re big cities, well of course, have a large demand and large supply always makes shopping bad, with limited choices and high prices. That's why everyone really in the know shops and mongers in Greenland.

Neworlean

07-08-12, 17:00

Belvaros

07-08-12, 17:40

Actually Colombia and Argentina are pretty great. I also actually posted just today that Capetown is a good place. Seems like you defensive about this place. Hope there are no hard feelings.Actually, you are welcome to your opinion. And no, I have no axe to grind re Berlin. It just seems on several fronts (Artemis, Budapest etc and YES I read your Capetown + Mexico posts) you did not RTFF and regurgitated well known info. All of it negative. Yes in Budapest as I (and others) have stated many times you may need to ring 10-20 women to get 3 or 4 who REALLY speak English or may even answer their effing phone / s, and yes at Artemis as several below have stated this time of year may be a little hit or miss but to say of 50 women there were ZERO of quality that you could find to fuck during your time seems to be quite disingenuous. But we all have differing views on quality of trim. And that is one positive of a forum of this type. If you think the FKKs are bad, try wading through Arabic countries where they seem to sell their putes priced by the pound.

As for arguing your point is well made and I would hate to see this thread end up like the Ukraine and Medellin WAFTAM threads.

"Happy punting mate"

London Traveller

07-08-12, 19:06

I understand day time is slower than night time that why I came back in the evening (11pm). When you are constantly traveling it gets difficult to stay in a city for a specific day. My review is really meant to be informative. And to summarize: I think this place is overrated. There were many more guys than girls when I visited and the place is boring. There are no stunners, but the place is cheap.

I think the forum should be informative, but this section seems to be antagonistic and has to many people complaining because another man has a different opinion. Unfortunately all that does is stop people from posting reports.

I am not looking for friends on this board just a way to give back for the information that I have received.

My review is meant to be a report of what I perceived at this FKK, and that was on the day I visited it sucked. That may not always be the case, but forum is meant to provide information. This is my last post in this section, and if you really like the place congrats and happy hunting.Neworlean, I thought that your post (which I have just read) was spot on accurate and I am sorry that you find this part of the forum 'antagonistic'. I haven't been to Artemis on a Tuesday for a while, but I know exactly what you mean by the poor selection of girls and the boring atmosphere. It does get a bit better later on in the day but Tuesday is probably not the best day to visit, even in the evening. Last time I went I found that the girls generally, even at the weekend, are generally unattractive, tarty and rather cheap looking. However, there are more girls present later in the week and there are some better looking ones, some of who even have nice personalities! It's a pity that you didn't meet a good girl who performs well in the room who might change your mind about this place, but there are a few around, although without guidance they can be hard to spot. There is entertainment later in the evening with pole dancers, and the food was quite good on my last visit as well, although the lack of it in the late afternoon is a bit frustrating. I hope you get the chance to give Artemis a try on a Friday / Saturday and maybe meet up with someone from here who can point out the best girls to you. Good luck whereever you go!

Angus Magee

07-08-12, 19:58

I am not looking for friends on this board just a way to give back for the information that I have received.All well and good and a nice sentiment. But in fact your report told us two things-that Artemis is not that great on a Tuesday (not exactly a news flash) and that you do not care for the place-interesting but hardly "giving back for the information that you received".

Dare I ask if you actually banged any girls and, who and how were they? In other words-useful info-the stuff people usually put in reports.

Just saying

AM

FkkKurt

07-10-12, 00:22

Hey guys,

First of all I wanted to thank you all for your great reports. I have been reading this forum for quite a while now.

So finally I decided to step in to the Ring too and will finally visit Artemis this week for the First time.

After my visit I will ofcourse give you guys a fully detailed report.

But I still need some questions to be answered please.

1. I was thinking about going to Artemis on Wednesday or Thursday. Which day is better?

2. I planed to arrive there at 3 pm. How many women can I expect there at that time? Should I go later?

3. Any last tips for a greenhorn?

If someone wants to join me he is welcome to do that!

Thanks!

FkkKurt

Rocketboy0

07-10-12, 11:20

hey guys, i still need some questions to be answered please.

1. i was thinking about going to artemis on wednesday or thursday. which day is better?

2. i planed to arrive there at 3 pm. how many women can i expect there at that time? should i go later?

3. any last tips for a greenhorn?

thanks! fkkkurtonce the drugs kick in, i only smile when people say they have read the forum, (or angus' magnum opassum blog) and ask questions that have been answered many many many times.

but, as part of my deal with my parole officer:

1. wed is dessous night where the girls are covered in various undergarments and lingerie. some men find this arousing. some men don't. some men are cross-dressers. you decide who you are.

thurs might be slightly (very slightly) more staffed up.

2. for the 10, 000th time, days slower than nights. but atmosphere more chilled. as it is slow and low summer season, there could be 10 guys and 15-20 girls. the evening shift is at full strength with many more choices by 20:00 and 50+ girls, and however many herren. but as you can hang out the whole day and night, no rush to decide either way. or split the difference and turn up around 5 so you see the day shift, and yet should it prove too low octane, night will fall soon enough.

3. last tips.

-rtff.
-rtff.
-wash your green horn so it's not so green. you can pm our expert norjan if you don`know how.
-if your horn is a special shape or sensitivity, bring your own condoms, knowing this may trigger some trust issues (forum recently covered this).
-don't tell girls they remind you of your mother.
-keep your [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) fetish a secret.
-talk to a candidate, look for some chemistry and vibes between you vs just she is hot, unless you just want to settle for an optifick.
-be funny, relaxed, take your time to chat a little, make sure you both understand what is expected (acts, time, cost) before heading off to a room, but do so in a charming way.
this is the great advantage artemis has over say the meat dept in a supermarket.
and,
-r t f f because all of this has already been discussed ad nausem.

i think the problem with the forum is, it cannot be condensed into some tiny twitter feed, or some little ho app.
you actually have to go back a year, or go through the reports of distinction, both of which require what is that word? oh yeah, effort.

we are working on the direct brain implant, just can't sort out the infection bit yet. and as careful readers of this forum, know, the last thing we need are yet more infections....:eek:

Angus Magee

07-10-12, 12:38

Any last tips for a greenhorn?
Oh mother tell your children.

Not to do what I have done.

Spend your lives in sin and misery.

In the House of the Rising SunBut more to the point-remember where you are and that it is up to you to chose who you want, not who wants your €60. This is the most challenging thing for the newbie I think, to say no until you find a girl who you want to be with.

If possible find a wingman, this makes the whole thing easier to navigate.

AM

Rocketboy0

07-10-12, 14:09

But more to the point-remember where you are and that it is up to you to chose who you want, not who wants your €60. This is the most challenging thing for the newbie I think, to say no until you find a girl who you want to be with. If possible find a wingman, this makes the whole thing easier to navigate.

AMYeah baby. We say "no" all the time and that pretty much got us this valet parking opportunity.

History: the Animals (no relation) stole this House song like good little white boys, from here possibly (according to WickedPedia) :
The oldest known existing recording is by Appalachian artists Clarence "Tom" Ashley and Gwen Foster, who recorded it for Vocalion Records in 1934-but it surely predates that.

But as Stephen Stills said,"If you can't be with the one you love, (pay those 60 Euros) and love the one you're with-but just for 30 minutes and no extras". As for for the pleasures of a wingmen, a newb should remember, if you are in the showers at Artemis, and you hear "I've Got Your Back, Top Gun", it could mean several things.

Norjan

07-11-12, 16:02

Anybody know if Ella is still active?

Have'nt seen her name here for a while.

Norjan

Angus Magee

07-11-12, 16:16

Anybody know if Ella is still active?

Have'nt seen her name here for a while.

NorjanYou mean Russian Ella? Blond page cut and silicon boobs? If so I did see her recently. She is an Artemis main stay I think. A great session but getting a wee long in the tooth for Angus.

AM

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 16:59

but getting a wee long in the tooth for Angus.What does this mean uncle Angus? Using the teeth while BJ? Violent oral conduct. : )

Angus Magee

07-11-12, 17:05

What does this mean uncle Angus? Using the teeth while BJ? Violent oral conduct. : )Sorry for using such an idiom. It means getting on in years. A bit older than I like.

On the contrary though her BJ is one of the best and least toothy I have had at Artemis if I remember correctly.

AM

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 17:25

No no no, for the sake of God; this is a way for us to extend our vocabulary. Reading english as it is supposed to be used is amazing. Thanks!

Norjan

07-11-12, 17:31

You mean Russian Ella? Blond page cut and silicon boobs? If so I did see her recently. She is an Artemis main stay I think. A great session but getting a wee long in the tooth for Angus.

AMYep thats her. Had a great session with he once, just curious if she were still around.

Norjan

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 17:37

This may not sound as something Shakespeare has written but; I saw Ella last month, I even spent 60 minutes with her doing doggy. Fortunately I had lesser amount of STDs and infections than my visit during springtime. At that moment I was so infected that I wasn't able to speak due to virus infections. Just ask Angus.

Norjan

07-11-12, 18:34

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 18:45

Norjan: I've been lazy so I haven't, but due to all the negative reports recently maybe I should; the good times are still rolling.

Norjan

07-11-12, 19:05

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 19:40

Are you saying you had STD:s on your Artemis visit in spring?Being infected at these levels as I am, you could never know who actually wrote this message; Zimmerbaby or the dominant Chlamydia trachomatis Infection. I'll probably undergo a Azithromycin or Doxycycline treatment before my trip to Hessen next summer.

Norjan

07-11-12, 19:59

I'll probably undergo a Azithromycin or Doxycycline treatment before my trip to Hessen next summer.Yeah, you go ahead and do that zimmerboy. But do not wait until next summer.

Also take a course in social (internet) behaviour and try to learn not to make improper jokes.

Rocketboy0

07-11-12, 20:06

Yeah, you go ahead and do that zimmerboy. But do not wait until next summer.

Also take a course in social (internet) behaviour and try to learn not to make improper jokes.Zimbo-Your sense of humour, is, well, ah infectious.

Which seems to be a good thing http://www.helpguide.org/life/humor_laughter_health.htm

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 20:07

As I like to say; it's not the girls, but the STDs that connects us mongers together in this beautiful brotherhood.

Kimino

07-11-12, 21:02

Norjan: I've been lazy so I haven't, but due to all the negative reports recently maybe I should; the good times are still rolling.Right on Zimmerbaby!

We do need some reliable volunteers to go visit Art and report.

I'll be up on the 25th / 26th so there's still a lot of time to wait, unfortunately.

Rb and Angus are too busy with the car valet startup thing so we can't count on them. LOL.

Norjan when is your next visit in magic Berlin?

Ciaooo

Delta Indigo

07-11-12, 21:19

Being infected at these levels as I am, you could never know who actually wrote this message; Zimmerbaby or the dominant Chlamydia trachomatis Infection. I'll probably undergo a Azithromycin or Doxycycline treatment before my trip to Hessen next summer.I have always used condoms for actual sex but love OWO. In women at least Chlamydia can be often symptom free, but I heard that is rarer in the case of men.

It is one of the most contagious STDs out there. I just wanted to ask you something, how did you know that you had Chlamydia?

Did you have any symptoms or did you get tested?

Belvaros

07-11-12, 22:39

Right on Zimmerbaby!

We do need some reliable volunteers to go visit Art and report.

I'll be up on the 25th / 26th so there's still a lot of time to wait, unfortunately.

Rb and Angus are too busy with the car valet startup thing so we can't count on them. LOL.

Norjan when is your next visit in magic Berlin?

CiaoooI will be in Berlin from Saturday. After a few days in Frankfurt. Going to hit Oase and one other FKK there. I will be happy to TOFTM and do a few days at FKK Artemis. And report back. I still think I will be able to get laid in said brothel though!

I am a fan of "long in the tooth" old hags so will give ELLA a run for her money. Especialy if she has big bolt ons. Woo hoo.

"Party on Wayne"

ZimmerBaby

07-11-12, 22:40

Norjan

07-12-12, 08:12

Norjan when is your next visit in magic Berlin?

CiaoooEarly August.

LilJoey

07-12-12, 13:08

Weekend of July 19 to 23 in Berlin.

The reports of a decline in the level of talent at Artemis during these summer weeks when some of the best girls at Artemis take vacation are not encouraging. To begin with, I was not impressed with the number of hotties present at Artemis on my first visit there earlier this year when I overnighted in Berlin on April 18, in comparison to the numbers of pretty girls I saw at FKK Oase and FKK Palace when I spent the weekend of April 20 to 22 in Frankfurt. I only was able to lay my hands on one doable girl at Artemis on the night of April 18th, but since I had spent that very afternoon during my stopover in Vienna, fucking the brains out of Joanna for two hours, my favorite girl in FKK Goldentime Vienna, I did not go to sleep without a smile on my face when I called it quits that night. So I'm not encouraged about what I might have in store for me at Artemis for next weekend. But it's my only opportunity for a mongering trip to Europe during this summer due to an unusually low airfare to Berlin that just popped up, so Artemis and Berlin it is.

However, I will have a full day stopover in Zurich on the way into Berlin. And although normally I gather the feeling is that the costs of the girls in the FKK clubs in Zurich, like FKK Globe or BumAlp, being double what the costs for sessions are at FKK Artemis are, it isn't worth mongering in Zurich, because you can get the same thing at the FKK Artemis for half the price, I am wondering if any of you agree that there is an exception in this instance?

In other words, does anyone on this thread agree that since there is currently a decline of the number of high level beauties available at FKK Artemis at the present time of the summer vacation period, as observed on a number of reports on this thread, combined with the fact that at places like FKK Globe in Zurich it is generally felt that there is normally a higher concentration of high level beauties compared to the German FKK's, that this might constitute a situation which is an exception and where it is worth it to monger in Zurich in order to get to some high level beauties?

If I am generally only interested in very pretty girls at the FKK's of 8's and 9's, should I keep my pants zipped in Zurich and wait to monger in Artemis where it is half the cost, or will I regret passing up nailing some very pretty girls in Zurich when I see the depressing line up at Artemis?

I am generally ok to spend more to get much prettier girls, when the situation warrants it, such as I have done when I am in Kiev. So it isn't the spending of $300 / hour in Zurich by itself which is an issue for me. I just don't want to spend double unless there is a good reason to do so.

I'm interested in hearing the viewpoints of any of you who have experienced both mongering destinations and have an insight which can help me decide whether to keep it zipped in Zurich, or try to nail one or two very high level hotties when I'm there, lest I regret missing out on such high level girls later, if I don't find their equal in Berlin.

Best regards,

LJ

Cybernauta

07-12-12, 23:03

I've had chlamydia twice. First time got it from my girlfriend (so who's the real *****, not the WG at Artemis) [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112) was unpleasant but not unbearable. There´s also excessive smell, but symptoms may vary from person X to Y. No discharge, and easily cured by medication, but then several infections will require harder drugs, broad spectral antibiotics. But chlamydia can be transferred by OWO, imagine 20 % of the guests at Artemis are probably contaminated, and 97 % of the ladies perform BBBJ. The microorganisms are existing in their throat, and I can not imagine that the girls are taking medication several times each month! Look at Jane from Hamburg, she's sucking 140 dicks a week. Think about the distance from mouth to throat. I think some people have to be more realistic regarding risk/return.Why not using old remedies (that are far better than ordinary chemistry)?

Sodium carbonate in powder to wash genitals (male or female) with warm and cold water; the quantity to use is 2 tea spoons for a small sponge;

And by the way, Soda ash is also good for mouth-washing; 1 glass of water (25 CL circa) 1. 5 tea spoons of this powder and 1 tea spoon of sea salt;

All the bacterias are fucked-up in a matter of a minute.

Cheers

Rocketboy0

07-13-12, 11:28

Weekend of July 19 to 23 in Berlin.

The reports of a decline in the level of talent at Artemis during these summer weeks when some of the best girls at Artemis take vacation are not encouraging. Help me decide whether to keep it zipped in Zurich, or try to nail one or two very high level hotties when I'm there, lest I regret missing out on such high level girls later, if I don't find their equal in Berlin. LJLJ haviing read some of your reports elsewhere, you will expect THE answer in some detailed management cuntsultancy, benefit-cost anal-ysis breakdown. Well you are in luck, because the answer, once we examine the system drivers is fairly simple, me thinks.

Your grand plan assumes that the same vacation behaviour may not occur or apply in Zurich. In fact, think it may. Hot girls with enough money will likely say, I don't need this shit for a few weeks and replant their bods in Ibiza. But there are 2 other problems. Comparing mellons with mellons ( Globe has little or no food, and the beauty bit always subjective) , and uncertainty as what ever generalisations might apply may not on the particular day. You could of course PM some Zurichers. But, in short, there no good way to decide based on the "facts", given the uncertainties.

So you decide if it worth potentially wasting the entrance fee at Globe and leaving un-gepopped just to have the no-regrets feeling. I would say, do it.

The mark of the true profi monger is whether he is willing to just walk, unsatisfied, vs lowering his standards. Then same applies at Artemis. Worst case, you have sussed out the Globe scene and have a one day data point, and if Arts disappoints, you still have plenty of good bordellos where as you say the costs will be lower. Then of course there are always private bordells in Zurich also. Or the un-charted waters that Sir Wanking explores with reckless abandon.

Angus Magee

07-13-12, 11:47

i have a little different take on this. all due respect lj but last time you came through a couple of us spent some time and effort helping you with logistics and opinion, for what that is worth. no doubt were i to come to kiev you would do the same. however, i sort of expected in the weeks following your short visit at least a perfunctory report of your adventures.

did i miss something?

if i did, my apologies. but as far as i could see we never heard a peep out of you concerning berlin. this forum is supposed to work as a give and take, we take, we give. while acknowledging your prodigious out put in the kiev thread, still i expect a little in return here for our efforts.

am

Angus Magee

07-13-12, 11:58

I am a fan of "long in the tooth" old hags so will give ELLA a run for her money. Especialy if she has big bolt ons. Woo hoo."I certainly do not mean to "dis" Ella in any way with my comment. When I did my sessions with her I remember them as high octane and very satisfying. Her BJ skills are second to few and indeed she has a pair of crafted breasts and a voluptuous bubble butt. To top all this off she is a genuinely nice woman who is actually fairly interesting to talk to if you should feel so inclined in post orgasmic haze.

There is a faceless pic on the website and she is recognisable by the platinum page boy cut (though sometimes she curls it) and the open fishnets she often wears. Also she has a tattoo above her ass. Ella is not hard to meet as she certainly does the rounds and while not shy, she will not pester you if you turn her down. She is a pro in the good sense and has plenty of business new and old to keep her happy.

You might also be on the look out for Jenna if you like man mades. She has a huge pair and knows her way up and down a penis. She has a way of massaging the penis with her pussy which is positively tantric. Though I would also say there is a good chance she will be on vacation at the moment. But you never know. f there she often sits at the northern end of the main bar.

AM

LilJoey

07-13-12, 16:51

thanks for the reply, rocketboy0. your point that my assumption that the zurich globe hotties will be there might be mistaken, and that globe, like artemis, might be suffering a "vacation" slump in the line up, may well be exactly correct. if so, it introduces another uncertainty into the situation. i would have no problem investing the payment of the entrance fee at globe and the time involved to investigate the line up at the time of my visit, thinking of it as an entertainment fee for the day. but then i am back to my initial question of, assuming i see some very pretty girls in globe when i am there next friday, should i nail them at $300 / hr rate (because i'm unlikely to find a really pretty girl at artemis next weekend) , or should i hold on to my sperm in zurich and wait until the evening to bang till i drop at artemis? i know it's a hard question to decide, because the decision must be based on taking a gamble on the uncertainties. i was only hoping to hear the thought process of some mongers with experience about their take on the possibilities.

i have in the interim found what i believe might be an intermediate path that might be good for zurich. on the zurich thread i read about club dream, which has something like an "all you can eat" policy offered at some restaurants. basically, what i understand goes on there, is that after paying their entrance fee of 160 chf plus 40 chf for the use of the facilities and a robe and slippers, a total of 200 chf, that you can then session with as many of the girls as you wish for 25 minutes each, with no additional fees save a 20 chf fee for room cleaning each session, and any small similar fee each girl might ask for any "extras". it was stated on the thread, in a review of the club from a few years ago linked to on the zurich rod thread, that the "extras" fee was nominal, as in maybe another 10 to 20 chf. so that even though the basic session under the "all you can eat" plan after paying the entrance fee did not include bbbj, or maybe not daty, that these "extras" could be gotten for an additional nominal tip of up to 20 chf. (if one wanted to extend a session past the 25 minutes permitted, it would be possible, but only upon payment of an additional 70 chf for 40 minutes more, or 130 chf for 70. maybe this club has an option that will end up being not so expensive after all. the review says that the girls at club dreams are very good looking too.

to flesh out the numbers, it would seem that since the club opens at noon, and since i must leave the club at about 4:30 pm to return to the airport for my flight to berlin, that i will have about four hours to play at club dreams. estimating that i could play with two girls each of the four hours i would be there would be a presumptuous assumption. i think a more reasonable number of 25 minute sessions to hope to achieve within the four hours would be 4 or 5 sessions, with the understanding that i do not intend to "finish" and shoot a load that many times, but rather to simply have sex, consisting of daty, bbbj and fucking in different positions, until my session time is up. i may allow myself to cum once or twice, but will control things as best i can, to save some sperm for the girls at artemis in berlin. since each girl at club dreams will require 20 chf room cleanup fee, plus an extras tip of 20 chf (assuming the report on the thread was accurate and things have not changed since the time of that reporting monger's visit) , that means there is an additional 40 chf cost associated with sessioning with each lucky girl. for 5 girls that's an additional 200 chf in these additional fees to be added to the 200 chf fees paid upon entrance. that means it will cost a total of 400 chf for five 25 minute sessions, which translates to (400/5 =) 80 chf per 25 min session. the swiss franc is about equal today to the usa dollar. the 80 chf per session is about 63 euros, which is less than the 30 minute sessions cost at artemis when you add in the cost of the artemis entrance fee. so mongering at club dream in zurich in the above manner is less, not more expensive than in berlin. if instead of the five 25 minute sessions at club dreams, i decided to forego the "all you can eat" approach, and to extend time, i could probably fit three one hour sessions, or two 1. 5 hour sessions into the four hours of playtime. the costs of doing three hour long sessions would be the initial 200 chf, plus 70 chf for each of three 40 minute extensions (another 210 chf) , plus 40 chf for each of the three girls for the room clean up fee and an extras tip (another 120 chf) , all totaling 530 chf for three hours of sessions, or 176. 66 chf per hour session, which is 147 euro / per hour session. artemis is comparable at 120 euro / hr plus the entrance fee. doing two 1. 5 hour sessions doesn't alter the conclusion, since the two extension fees of 130 chf each, added to the initial 200 chf, plus 40 additional chf for each girl for room clean up fee and tip, all totals 540 chf for 3 hours in the room, or 180 chf / hour, which is 150 euro / hr. and similar to artemis costs. of course if "extra" fees have give up, it will throw off these calculations. but it there is some decent looking pussy at club dreams in zurich, it costs the same as mongering in berlin, so no concern is raised. downside is if the line up is no good, it is a wasted 200 entrance fee.

or i may do as you suggest, rocketboy0, and just go to globe to take a chance on maybe shagging a high level beauty. it will have to be a gut decision made on the spot, i guess.

i have a little different take on this. all due respect lj but last time you came through a couple of us spent some time and effort helping you with logistics and opinion, for what that is worth. no doubt were i to come to kiev you would do the same. however, i sort of expected in the weeks following your short visit at least a perfunctory report of your adventures.

did i miss something?

if i did, my apologies. but as far as i could see we never heard a peep out of you concerning berlin. this forum is supposed to work as a give and take, we take, we give. while acknowledging your prodigious out put in the kiev thread, still i expect a little in return here for our efforts.

amdear angus, with regard to the morning stopover in berlin on the way to kiev that i asked advice about, and you and others kindly responded, i appreciated your comments very much and thank you and the others for them. they will not go to waste. the upshot of that trip however, was that i ultimately decided to purchase a very portable automatically inflatable air mattress that could be stowed in my carry on, and if i was very tired after the all night flying into berlin, to simply find an area in the airport and sleep for a few hours until my outgoing flight. and if i felt good, then i would stow my stuff and go into berlin for a try of one of the bordellos we spoke of. ultimately, a combination of flight delay and fatigue determined that i would simply use the time to try to rest, so i inflated my air mattress and tried to sleep / rest in the berlin airport until my outgoing flight. so you didn't miss any report about mongering i had thought about doing during that stopover. it didn't happen. but i filed away the information for a future visit, which is about to happen now, and i will make good use of it. (in a subsequent trip on april 18 i did stopover again in berlin on the night of april 18. i was coming from vienna and had spent that day at goldentime vienna. i arrived late evening in berlin and decided to go to artemis. i had a lousy time there. i couldn't find any girls hot enough to want to session with. i ultimately took one girl who was ok, but it was nothing more than a lackluster suck and fuck. so rather than post a sour grapes report on the artemis thread, i felt it would contribute nothing, so i let it rest. i feel it is important to report when what i write can give some insight to someone else, or entertain. i didn't think i had given artemis a real chance because i only got there very late in the evening, didn't see anyone i liked the look of, and i had already given my best to joanna at goldentime vienna. so i hope i will have a better time at artemis next weekend, although i may try out some of the bordellos, and now wanking has me very curious about what's possible with sw's in berlin. some of his photos show sw's who were far better looking than what i saw in artemis on the night of april 18. we'll see. promise to report on a berlin weekend. the prior situations were pass through's and short stopovers. again thank you for your input.

lj

Belvaros

07-13-12, 18:15

I certainly do not mean to "dis" Ella in any way with my comment.

You might also be on the look out for Jenna if you like man mades. She has a huge pair and knows her way up and down a penis. She has a way of massaging the penis with her pussy which is positively tantric. Though I would also say there is a good chance she will be on vacation at the moment. But you never know. F there she often sits at the northern end of the main bar.

AMThanks, I know you weren't dissing her. So I will give ELLA a whirl this weekend or next week. I am in Frankfurt for a few days and am trying Oase and one of the other clubs. Will try Oase tonight. Vibe here so far leaves me much hungrier for Berlin, but I have read good reviews of both places I am heading to here.

Berlin to me, is a much greater city than Frankfurt. Anyway. I shouldn't diss a place I have been in only for a day or so.

BTW I bought a phone card in Africa and rang FKK Artemis to find out of the girls I had a few weeks back are around including my fave the aforementioned JENNA. So here goes. Jenna is away (they do not know when she is back). Nina is away. Hillary is away. Gita is away but ELLA is there. So I intend to give Ella a few hungy Euros of my hard earned $$ and several other of the PSE babes there.

I will be in Berlin for 2 weeks or so, then will head to Denmark and down to Vienna, Budapest and if time permits I will give Romania a go at the beaches near Constanta. Staying at Apt Hotel Adina. Which I think is on the eastern side of the old wall."Well alrighty then".

Full match reports, my fantasy team and all star selections to follow.

"Party on Wayne"

ZimmerBaby

07-13-12, 18:35

entrance fee of 160 CHF plus 40 CHF for the use a total of 200 CHF, you wish for 25 minutes each, save a 20 CHF fee other 10 to 20 CHF. So that er paying the entranctip of up to 20 CHF. additional 70 CHF for 40 minutes more, or 130 CHF for 70. 20 CHF room cleanup fee, plus an extras tip of 20 CHF (assuming the report on the thread an additional 40 CHF 200 CHF in these additional fees to be added to the 200 CHF fees total of 400 CHF for five 25 minute sessions, which translates to (400/5 =) 80 CHF per 25 min session. The Swiss Franc is about equal today to the USA dollar. The 80 CHF per session is about 63 Euros, which isfive 25 minute sessions at Club Dreams, or two 1. 5 hour sessions the initial 200 CHF, plus 70 CHF for each of three 40 minute extensions (another 210 CHF) , plus 40 CHF (another 120 CHF) , all totaling 530 CHF 76. 66 CHF per hour 147 Euro / per hour 120 Euro / hr plus Doing two 1. 5 hour sessions 130 CHF , 200 CHF, plus 40 additional CHF. totals 540 CHF for 3 hours in the room, or 180 CHF / hour, 150 Euro / hr wasted 200 entrance fee.LJPlease note: during swimming in the pool at Artemis you might get dizzy cause you have to swim in circles.

Rocketboy0

07-13-12, 20:37

Thanks for the reply, Rocketboy0. Your point that my assumption that the Zurich Globe hotties will be there might be mistaken, and that Globe, like Artemis, might be suffering a "vacation" slump in the line up, may well be exactly correct. If so, it introduces another uncertainty into the situation. I would have no problem investing the payment of the entrance fee at Globe and the time involved to investigate the line up at the time of my visit, thinking of it as an entertainment fee for the day. But then I am back to my initial question of, assuming I see some very pretty girls in Globe when I am there next Friday, should I nail them at $300 / hr rate (because I'm unlikely to find a really pretty girl at Artemis next weekend) , or should I hold on to my sperm in Zurich and wait until the evening to bang till I drop at Artemis? I know it's a hard question to decide, because the decision must be based on taking a gamble on the uncertainties. I was only hoping to hear the thought process of some mongers with experience about their take on the possibilities.

Or I may do as you suggest, Rocketboy0, and just go to Globe to take a chance on maybe shagging a high level beauty. It will have to be a gut decision made on the spot, I guess.

LJIs there such a thing as a brain hernia?. Because I might have one after reading this analysis, which I am pleased to note, I predicted you would offer. I always find it extremely gratifying when I can agree with myself.

LJ I am sure you are a clever, top fellow but playing the "Fear and Loathing" role, as your attorney, I have to advise you that this kind of thinking is pretty over the top, edging toward certifiably, barking mad. But I know some people need to do it, and as you can see from the smoldering financial ruins all around us, there is some albeit unfathomable logic to it. Somehow, I thought fucking was meant to be the ultimate expression of passion, a connection to primordial roots, some inexplicable ancient urge to merge with another body to put out the fires in our loins, to receive by giving, to forget for a moment the whole money mad consumer calculating world and just be a passionate animal and hopefully strike the same spark in another, for a few brief moments (wait-I have to catch my breath) vs some optimal solution to a linear programming problem. WTF was I thinking?

Here is a really outside the box solution. You pay the entrance to Globe, you read your analysis to the hottest girl there, she then pays you who knows (you can make it a bidding thing) hundreds to stop reading and just fuck her. You might clear a profit on the whole (hole) deal. If not her, maybe just a fellow monger might pay if you announce a dramatic reading hour. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. You think this is nuts? Try this, record yourself reading your previous note, using some suitable dramatic voice like I dunno James Earl Jones or something. Then just play it back - I bet you would pay yourself to stop. Incidently, a similar therapy worked with my occasional wingman Kimino, where I convinced him to put his fingers up his own butt vs paying for silly extras. Saved him a bundle. Of course this would not work with Wanking, but I digress.

If it was me (and it surely is not) I would just say, well you know RB, when you think about it, it's net net net 1-200 of some favorite currency here or there more than whatever Plan B is, so is it really worth worrying about, considering the bundles you have dropped in eg Kiev? Will the potential savings cover my medical expenses recovering from the brain hernia I got thinking about all this? I have always been curious about the Globe and if Billy Shakespeare really was the author etc. So I'll just go there and see what happens, being prepared to either walk without, or spend a few Frankelies on some damsel and know that whatever happens in Artemis, I went around the world at the Globe.

For what it's worth-a number of Artemis lovelies relocated to the Globe. I know that they are phenomenally strict about all sorts of rules and weight and makeup controls there and it can and does drive some of the girls crazy,but it may well lead to the illusion of great service. I know a few girls who have come back to Artemis. Is the Globe stupidly expensive like London-no, but close. It is a good place. It is expensive. Is it all worth it? Who can say.

I also think that the summer "weakness" will be obviously in effect at all the other places you mentioned (as well as a few cracking ones I know in Winterthur-all these seem to swap girls around a bit). With the "weakness", you can argue that going to a large club makes more sense just because no matter what, there have to be more choices. Just way too many variables and uncertainties to make the "right" call.

So, less thinking, more doing. I can see you just need a push so I'm giving it. Just get your ass to the Globe, and fucking go for it, and let us know what happens because all of Berlin will now be on edge, and even El Sniffo (Wanking) himself might be interested.

And if this I think pretty kick ass idea of mine above works and girls pay you to not read your analysis and you actually make money going there, well man, you have cracked it. With a little Bulgarian and Romanian translating (we were thinking of this as a natural side business to the Valets of the Dolls parking service) you could do the same in Artemis, and slowly become a cult monger figure throughout the world, with youTube vids and everything. (You know I'm just kidding on all this right?!. No real offense meant). Anyway I am sure you will work it out (in great detail). So let us know how it go wid de hos, bro, just be transparent about assumptions re hurdle rates, CAPM betas etc.

LilJoey

07-13-12, 21:06

Please note: during swimming in the pool at Artemis you might get dizzy cause you have to swim in circles.LOL. Didn't mean to interrupt your chlamydia induced reverie with the number crunching. I noticed that when I wrote it out, it seems utterly clear, but somehow it got all jumbled when it was filtered through the prism of your keen mind and into your quote.

It's actually a worthwhile point being made as it debunks the oft repeated opinion that it's more expensive to monger in Zurich than in Germany, and demonstrates that isn't true as pertains to some Zurich venues.

Actually, I never entertained the idea of swimming at Artemis, primarily due to concerns as to hygiene. Who knows what has been spit or ejaculated or oozed into those waters.

Happy mongering whatever delights you.

LJ

London Traveller

07-13-12, 22:56

I see that this club is being mentioned on the Artemis thread for some reason. I have already posted my opinions of it extensively in the Zurich thread but, for what it's worth, I thought I'd add my views to the discussion here.

Globe is hyped too much and a lot of this is self-promotion. The 6profi.com Swiss review site is controlled by the club management, and negative views of the club (although not of all the girls) are censored. There are also a lot of fake reviews of this club on the Zurich thread of this site (i.e. ISG) and elsewhere on the FKK pages. I have noticed some obviously planted comments about Globe on the Oase thread for example. The managers who do this have become cleverer in that they now give their posts a bit of background, with fake reviews of other clubs (never too positive) before they start to go big on Globe and set it up as the pinnacle of excellence that it undoubtedly is not.

This is not to say that there are not some good looking girls at Globe who provide excellent service. There are. However, these are not the girls you will find on the floor of the club if you just turn up. The most popular girls are booked solid by the local punters who speak the lingo, know the management and know how to book them in advance. Many, it not most, of them you never even see dancing (the pole is always occupied by a girl dancing, usually when she returns from a room) and when you do see one of the stunners dancing she, far more often than not, just leaves the public area of the club immediately rather than waiting to be picked up by a casual punter.

Some of the girls at Globe are actually the same girls as you can get in Artemis (or elsewhere) for much less money. Suzannah (Globe) /Esther (Artemis) is a good example of this. A rather MILFy Czech, she is well thought of on the 6profi site but at Artemis is nothing that special, although she is busy enough.

If you actually turn up to the club and survey the scene, the girls you will find are pretty much the same lookswise as in any of the big FKKs, maybe missing out the least attractive girls though. The service they give is the same too, and I can assure you that their hygiene is no better or worse than girls at any of the clubs either, with a similar risk level. I found management at Globe to be rather more unhelpful than at Oase, for example, they seem to believe their own hype too much and don't welcome feedback when things go wrong.

The club itself is nothing special inside, although I understand that there have been some renovations since I last visited, although these won't have made it any larger. Some rooms can become extremely hot and some are right next to the main bar area, which makes them very noisy. In the summer there is a roof garden but it's also a bit noisy at times as the club is next to a train line.

LilJoey

07-14-12, 02:59

Is there such a thing as a brain hernia. Because I might have one after reading this analysis, which I am pleased to note, I predicted you would offer. I always find it extremely gratifying when I can agree with myself.

LJ I am sure you are a clever, top fellow but playing the "Fear and Loathing" role, as your attorney, I have to advise you that this kind of thinking is pretty over the top, edging toward certifiably, barking mad. But I know some people need to do it, and as you can see from the smoldering financial ruins all around us, there is some albeit unfathomable logic to it. Somehow, I thought fucking was meant to be the ultimate expression of passion, a connection to primordial roots, some inexplicable ancient urge to merge with another body to put out the fires in our loins, to receive by giving, to forget for a moment the whole money mad consumer calculating world and just be a passionate animal and hopefully strike the same spark in another, for a few brief moments (wait-I have to catch my breath) vs some optimal solution to a linear programming problem. WTF was I thinking?

Here is a really outside the box solution. You pay the entrance to Globe, you read your analysis to the hottest girl there, she then pays you who knows (you can make it a bidding thing) hundreds to stop reading and just fuck her. You might clear a profit on the whole (hole) deal. If not her, maybe just a fellow monger might pay if you announce a dramatic reading hour. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. You think this is nuts? Try this, record yourself reading your previous note, using some suitable dramatic voice like I dunno James Earl Jones or something. Then just play it back. I bet you would pay yourself to stop. Incidently, a similar therapy worked with my occasional wingman Kimino, where I convinced him to put his fingers up his own butt vs paying for silly extras. Saved him a bundle. Of course this would not work with Wanking, but I digress.

If it was me (and it surely is not) I would just say, well you know RB, when you think about it, it's net net net 1-200 of some favorite currency here or there more than whatever Plan B is, so is it really worth worrying about, considering the bundles you have dropped in eg Kiev? Will the potential savings cover my medical expenses recovering from the brain hernia I got thinking about all this? I have always been curious about the Globe and if Billy Shakespeare really was the author etc. So I'll just go there and see what happens, being prepared to either walk without, or spend a few Frankelies on some damsel and know that whatever happens in Artemis, I went around the world at the Globe.

For what it's worth-a number of Artemis lovelies relocated to the Globe. I know that they are phenomenally strict about all sorts of rules and weight and makeup controls there and it can and does drive some of the girls crazy, but it may well lead to the illusion of great service. I know a few girls who have come back to Artemis. Is the Globe stupidly expensive like London-no, but close. It is a good place. It is expensive. Is it all worth it? Who can say.

I also think that the summer "weakness" will be obviously in effect at all the other places you mentioned (as well as a few cracking ones I know in Winterthur-all these seem to swap girls around a bit). With the "weakness", you can argue that going to a large club makes more sense just because no matter what, there have to be more choices. Just way too many variables and uncertainties to make the "right" call.

So, less thinking, more doing. I can see you just need a push so I'm giving it. Just get your ass to the Globe, and fucking go for it, and let us know what happens because all of Berlin will now be on edge, and even El Sniffo (Wanking) himself might be interested.

And if this I think pretty kick ass idea of mine above works and girls pay you to not read your analysis and you actually make money going there, well man, you have cracked it. With a little Bulgarian and Romanian translating (we were thinking of this as a natural side business to the Valets of the Dolls parking service) you could do the same in Artemis, and slowly become a cult monger figure throughout the world, with youTube vids and everything. (You know I'm just kidding on all this right. No real offense meant). Anyway I am sure you will work it out (in great detail). So let us know how it go wid de hos, bro, just be transparent about assumptions re hurdle rates, CAPM betas etc.Dear Rocketboy0,

In your initial two paragraphs you reveal to us that you are at heart a romantic, wishing to lose yourself in the passion of fucking a prostitute, blissfully anesthetized to the mundane economics of the act and the economic woes of the world. Power to you, if your experiences in monger land have risen to that challenge.

For me it's simply a form of the most exciting male erotic entertainment and pleasure that is paid for, much like an exquisite massage, as the girls make painfully clear when they negotiate their fees, banishing all illusions of true romance. So, of course, cost is a factor for me as it is for them, and the experience to be bargained for is a commodity for which I don't want to overpay.

Having read the more recent portions of the Zurich and Artemis threads, it was clear that a major issue for many other punters was the higher cost of the hobby in Zurich. But a lot of times "higher cost" is only an appearance or an assumption, and sometimes the facts demonstrate otherwise. So I thought it to be a valuable contribution to that ongoing discussion about the relative costs, to crunch the numbers and give the details, so that those mongers who thought it was more expensive in Zurich could see the facts plainly and indisputably that in some Zurich venues it is not more expensive than Germany. Had I simply uttered the conclusory opinion, it would be just another opinion, but with the numbers crunched and laid out for anyone to understand, even those mongers who hate arithmetic, or are not good at it, would understand it, and the fact would be established. If I bored you with the details of the arithmetic, I'm sorry. It was not my intention to bore anyone, and certainly not to herniate their brains. I guess I assumed that those who wanted to see the details of the comparative costs would follow the arithmetic, and get the point, and that those who were not interested in that issue, would allow their eyes to skim to where the numbers part ended.

But don't worry, I can take your good-natured chiding and laugh at myself sometimes too. However, I assure you, when I have good pussy in front of me, I know what to do with it, and talking at it or sInging at it, is the furthest thing from my mind. The closest to that I will ever come to anything musical insofar as pussy is concerned is what I do when I perform DATY on a hot delicious young girl, at which I am quite good, and that is to use my versatile tongue on her clitoris and labia to produce the desired notes from her throat and mouth, and, like I tell her in advance what I am going to do to her, which is to "play her, like a violin"!

I essentially agree with your approach of what's a few extra hundred dollars spent in Zurich if it was lots of fun. But my real purpose was to coax out of the veterans some more feedback on what they felt the talent would be like at Artemis this coming weekend, as it seems to be in question, so I couched the issue as in comparison to Globe with its good reputation for hotties. But I can see I'm not really going to get specific feedback on Artemis and will just have to go and see. I really haven't decided if I will go to Globe or to Club Dreams in Zurich. We'll see.

Happy Mongering.

LJ

Angus Magee

07-14-12, 09:26

Rocketboy0

07-14-12, 10:38

All this is well and good but starting to have less and less to do with Artemis to which this thread is dedicated. Might I suggest that further Globe / Artemis comparison be moved to the Lounge / Chat area? AMTo try to bring this back to earth: bottom lines. As has been said several times by none other than yours truly, and sort of confirmed by recent downbeat reports, dass Artemis Liebe Bahnhoff is weaker than normal due to summer holidays and the absence of some of the better talent. But schedules change all the time, and as always, this is a hit and miss, YMMV, taste / chemistry thing. Too many variables, too much uncertainty.

So LJ in your case, given the very mixed ISG reviews of all the various Zurich venues you mentioned, and the high likelihood of summer effects there as well, it is a wash. You simply won't be able to make an informed,"correct" choice. The relative cost numbers don't help as they say nothing about the likelihood of someone worthy actually being there and available when they need to be. So just take the plunge at Globe, don't settle for "less" and thus risk the entrance fee being pissed away. Then come to Artemis for a proper comparison. Same rules apply.

At least in Berlin you have lower cost Bordello Plan B options should you need to exercise them, and more affordably on culturally. Great to know you are so good at cunninglingis (sic) , which will help me sleep better tonight, most def, knowing all the local lovelies will have the pleasures of your expert tongue lashings. But please do report back on all so we can finally know how it all works out. Finito.

Angus Magee

07-14-12, 10:40

Finito.Not a bet I would take-that it is finished that is. I think someone is paying LJ by the word.

AM

Rocketboy0

07-14-12, 10:53

Not a bet I would take-that it is finished that is. I think someone is paying LJ by the word.AMAch, busted. OK I admit it; we cooked the whole thing up together so LJ could try this "pay me not to read the analysis" scam, from which I get 10%.

But, really, I was going to plow all earnings back into the valet thing, so we would have proper matching uniforms.
Or, I would help finance Wanking's marketing costs for the men's cologne on which he has secretly been beavering (sweet one eh?) away,"Ode de Load".

LilJoey

07-14-12, 14:53

To try to bring this back to earth: bottom lines. As has been said several times by none other than yours truly, and sort of confirmed by recent downbeat reports, dass Artemis Liebe Bahnhoff is weaker than normal due to summer holidays and the absence of some of the better talent. But schedules change all the time, and as always, this is a hit and miss, YMMV, taste / chemistry thing. Too many variables, too much uncertainty.

So LJ in your case, given the very mixed ISG reviews of all the various Zurich venues you mentioned, and the high likelihood of summer effects there as well, it is a wash. You simply won't be able to make an informed,"correct" choice. The relative cost numbers don't help as they say nothing about the likelihood of someone worthy actually being there and available when they need to be. So just take the plunge at Globe, don't settle for "less" and thus risk the entrance fee being pissed away. Then come to Artemis for a proper comparison. Same rules apply.

At least in Berlin you have lower cost Bordello Plan B options should you need to exercise them, and more affordably on culturally. Great to know you are so good at cunninglingis (sic) , which will help me sleep better tonight, most def, knowing all the local lovelies will have the pleasures of your expert tongue lashings. But please do report back on all so we can finally know how it all works out. Finito.Agreed.

(and that is my fucking shortest post.)

PS. Methinks AM you are getting too picky, for a guy who blogs and blogs away. Please don't think I don't read every precious word you write. You're a golden resource. But you seem to be declining in the tolerance dept.)

LJ

Member #4243

07-14-12, 17:02

Hi little joey and hope you are well. I hope I can repay you now for your help on the Kiev thread. Since 2008 I have done 8 trips into germany and switzerland to visit fkk wonderlands. (still haven't got myself to Kiev yet!) during this period 7 of those trips were to germany but 1 was to zurich in April of 2010. Initially I visited zurich as a curiosity tourist type endeavour even though my priority was fkk globe based on great ISG reports. My fkk experience had not at that point matured to the level where I fully understood the higher costs at globe ie money available with regards to time in rooms and so on. None the less I found myself spending 6 nights in zurich with funds that would stretch to an acceptable level. The first thing that struck me about zurich was the beauty of the city and its distinct different flavour to what you would find in a typical large german city. The beautiful old town, the 2 hour cruise I took on lake zurich. The excellent nightclubs in west zurich which I partied away in till the early hours. The old historic versus the modern cosmopolitan feel of the town. I arrived on a Thursday which is fkk day at club globe "alles naked tag". I arrived at the club at around 430pm on this day absolutely exhausted almost to a dangerous level due to lack of sleep / the flight and the fact that there was a volcanic ash explosion in iceland causing a cloud to hover over europe which meant that my airport in england was closed up until a few hours before my flight was about to leave. Until now to put things into perspective I had visited artemis and the large clubs in frankfurt a few times. Till now I have visited fkk palace / fkk oase / fkk world / fkk samya / fkkartemis / and globe zurich. The club hardware at globe is not massively large but is very modern, bright, large enough and I believe now there is a restaurant. Food can be ordered in. The staff were ultra cheerful helpful and very polite. I can honestly say I did not find one girl at globe I would not place into the top 5% of any fkk german. Whereas in a german club you have to filter out the girls you do not like that simply did not occur at globe ie there was no filtering to do. All the girls were instantly very pleasing to the eyes especially some of the german / swiss type girls. Even the one arabic girl that I spent an hour with was exquisite. Its as if the management at globe only let in a specific type being; ; 1) very pretty faced2) very slim in the lower half of the body and 3) very busty up top but only naturally busty leading to quite a collection of hotties. As described by another member a bit like the stepford wives. Now I HAVE seen girls of equal beauty many times in the large german clubs but I have NEVER seen such a concentrated collection of talent all in one place. The way that girls treat you in the rooms seems to be uniform as well. 1 hour means 60 mins to the dot. Kissing? Well asking for it would be ridiculous. Everything is centred around the happiness of the customer none of the crap you MAY get in german clubs and I say may because the larger percentage of my sessions in german clubs have been great. For entertainment you always find girls dancing on the pole always and neither this nor the time in the rooms comes even close to being clinical. My most memorable girl ever in any fkk club was carol at globe a half american half german blonde whose looks and body are easily playboy magazine and I have rarely seen elsewhere. She was outstanding. Anyway I visited globe 3 times during my stay. I dropped into bumsaulp and the lineup there was aweful I left without one session. Also club dream from what I know is no good with regards to lineup. I have come under criticism from some members noteably my fellow british ISG'er london traveller for promoting globe to a level it doesn't deserve but the info I am giving you above is 100% as based on my experience. I would also recommend that if paying 200 euros an hour is not a problem for you lj to stick to 1 hour sessions at globe and forget the other places as again from my experience in zurich they don't come close to globe. Even better forget artemis and berlin and spend your time at fkk days mon / thurdsday at globe by booking an extra flight. That is EXACTLY what I would do IF I had the funds. Now you may wonder why am I not rushing back to zurich and the answer is very simple. It would cost me in excess of 2000 british pounds to secure accm / flights and I would still only get 5 hours of girl time at globe so at the moment I cannot justify this. Just to finish off it may sound like I am some kind of advert for the place but I have no alliances to anyone. Anything or any club I'm just stating it as it happened to me. You can also expect to pay over the odds for EVERYTHING in swiss land but also expect top quality. Now if you are travelling to Kiev and paying top dollar to find the most beautiful girls I can also expect you will encounter this in zurich. Happy licking, fucking and kissing lj and please let us know what happened. Bye mo (* some members have also described globe as the finest pay for play brothel venue in the world so its not just me!)

Angus Magee

07-14-12, 17:33

PS. Methinks AM you are getting too picky, for a guy who blogs and blogs away. Please don't think I don't read every precious word you write. You're a golden resource. But you seem to be declining in the tolerance dept.)Blogs is blogs and forums is forums. But you may be right I am a wee cranky these days.

My idea was to put a 200 word limit on posts. Any words above 200 are charged at €1 per word towards the "send Angus to Artemis so that he is less cranky on the forum fund".

It is one way to make everybody happy.

AM

LilJoey

07-15-12, 23:02

Angus Magee

07-16-12, 11:51

Hi Mohab, thanks for chiming in. I had already decided to go to Globe based on my conversation with Rocketboy0 previously. I will reply to you in more detail on the Zurich thread, lest I get another tongue lashing from AM, having added further disturbance to His sense of order here on this thread. We do want to keep him happy, you know.

LJMy concern in thus LJ-the various forums already tend to get full and bloated with off topic meanderings. When guys come here to do a little research on Artemis and have to scroll through pages of such material it encourages them to simply ask questions rather than to do a little research on the forum and find out for themselves the answers, filling the forum up even more with vague and useless posts. Therefore I try to encourage the long detailed analysis that you seem to love so well into a perhaps more appropriate thread, like the lounge.

But in the end it is not my forum so post away to your heart's content. I will say no more.

AM

CityHunter77

07-16-12, 19:32

Angus Magee

07-16-12, 19:50

In between the session I also tried to approach a hot Blonde girl with wings tattoed on her back but she was always with a customer.

Any one know who this girl is? She must have been one of the hottest girls there.Possibly Conny from Bulgaria? Conny (or Connie-I am never sure of the spelling) is tall, blond and has the wings as well as other tattoos. She also has man mades that look a bit hard, high and wide. She has been reviewed here a couple of times and the consensus is generally okay but a bit distant at times. If she wants to she can provide a stellar porn style BJ.

AM

LilJoey

07-17-12, 01:05

Was in Berlin at the weekend and made a trip down to Artemis. It was my first ever visit to a FKK and my experience was good.

Getting there was easy, just 30mins by underground from my hotel to Westkreuz. No problems regarding safety at all, I didn't notice any dodgy gypsies or Irish limbo dancers either LOL.

The lineup I saw at the weekend was pretty good, probably got there at the peak time. Many girls with implants which doesn't bother me at all.

Was a bit nervous at beginning but warmed up pretty soon. Think my main mistake was not bringing enough cash with me, because I did run out fast.

Some girls that aproached me were, Blonde Czech girl Nicole who wanted standard sex in addition to another 100 for Anal, which I wasn't interested in so I passed. 2 Brunette German girls with huge implants were also very persistent in having a 3 some as 'welcome sex'.120 for half an hour plus 100 for lesbi show, I kindly refused them.

Alisha (Hungary)

Was approached by Alisha a good looking brunette, she had a good attitude and we instantly clicked. Super sweet girl and an excellent shag, definitely worth it.

Did 2 sessions with this girl 110 both times including cim.

That was all my money blown. In between the session I also tried to approach a hot Blonde girl with wings tattoed on her back but she was always with a customer.

Any one know who this girl is? She must have been one of the hottest girls there.

Overall I had a good experience at Artemis and would visit again on my next Berlin visitHi Immy, glad to hear your first FKK experience went well. Your comments about there being a good line up are encouraging, as earlier reports indicated a possible slump due to summer vacations. I will be in Berlin soon too, and I hope the line up at Artemis is as good as you described.

The funny thing is that I also have had the same exact problem of running out of cash at an FKK, before I ran out of sperm. One time it was when I was at FKK Palace in Frankfurt, and although there was some sort of cash machine in the club it wasn't working at the time, so I had to get dressed and exit the club and walk a few blocks to an ATM machine where I could withdraw some cash. Another time, this one at FKK Oase near Frankfurt, the club processed a credit card transaction for me and gave me the cash, after taking a nice commission, but I was happy because it allowed me to continue chasing tail at the club.

Was there any option while you were at Artemis to have use of an ATM to withdraw cash, or for the club to process a transaction on one of your credit cards to get you cash, or did you not inquire because you had finished your budget then?

Best regards,

LJ

Kimino

07-17-12, 10:43

Was there any option while you were at Artemis to have use of an ATM to withdraw cash, or for the club to process a transaction on one of your credit cards to get you cash, or did you not inquire because you had finished your budget then?

Best regards,

LJHi LJ. There is an ATM to withdraw cash at Artemis. I've allways seen it but never used it. A friend of mine did use it and noticed from the bank report that the name that appeared was directly connected with the club. Not a problem for me or for him but might be a problem for some. Sorry but I don't have more details about this.

Ciao.

Kimino

Angus Magee

07-17-12, 10:55

A friend of mine did use it and noticed from the bank report that the name that appeared was directly connected with the club. Not a problem for me or for him but might be a problem for some. Sorry but I don't have more details about this.That seems a bit of a major fuck up to me but then maybe it has to be that way for the banking regs.

The other option is Hallensee, about 10 minutes walk from Artemis, where there are several banks machines available. Of course you would have to get dressed and actually leave the club facing untold dangers and various muggers. But a man's got to do what a man's got to do.

AM

CityHunter77

07-17-12, 15:21

Hi Immy, glad to hear your first FKK experience went well. Your comments about there being a good line up are encouraging, as earlier reports indicated a possible slump due to summer vacations. I will be in Berlin soon too, and I hope the line up at Artemis is as good as you

Was there any option while you were at Artemis to have use of an ATM to withdraw cash, or for the club to process a transaction on one of your credit cards to get you cash, or did you not inquire because you had finished your budget then?

Best regards,

LJHi LJ.

There are various ATM options as Angus and Kimino have explained. I didn't have a card with me only cash, so I would advise you to have a minimum of 400 at your disposal.

Hope you have a successful trip.

007

Galazy

07-17-12, 18:03

In between the session I also tried to approach a hot Blonde girl with wings tattoed on her back but she was always with a customer.

Any one know who this girl is? She must have been one of the hottest girls there.Could have been my favourite Artemis girl, Ciarra. She's short, with short blonde hair big fake tits and 2 big angel wings tattoo'd on her back.

Belvaros

07-17-12, 19:06

Report to follow once writer's cramp stops.

LilJoey

07-18-12, 01:39

Hi LJ.

There are various ATM options as Angus and Kimino have explained. I didn't have a card with me only cash, so I would advise you to have a minimum of 400 at your disposal.

Hope you have a successful trip.

007Thanks, Immy. 400 is a nice round number. I'm trying to get myself to do 30 minute sessions so I can experience more of the girls while conserving and extending the funds at my disposal. However, I rarely cooperate with this my intended plan because when I like a girl and am enjoying a session I just let it roll past the 30 minute mark without a thought. Time goes by in conversation, as well as DATY, and then continues into BBBJ and sex.

I suppose I could eliminate the DATY preliminaries and start the session off with BBBJ and between that and some sex positions I guess I could pop within the 30 minutes.

But then, what is the goal here? Is it only to enjoy the pleasure of the ultimate orgasm and ejaculation? To get to the end of the experience? If so, I should get my business done within the 30 minutes. Or is it rather the "process of sex" that is to be enjoyed, and prolonging it, and luxuriating in it, is the goal to be enjoyed? If so, the enjoyment I get from playing with a pretty girl and kissing her body and licking her sexy little pussy, from which I do get arousal pleasure from, this too Is worth paying for by having an hour long session, or even an hour and a half session. And what of paying for a session where I have sex but know that I will not cum in the end and there will be no ejaculation, either by willpower and control, or because I have no sperm left? Isn't it worth it to pay for such a session too, or is it time to quit when there's no more sperm? I wonder what other guys feel? I sure could make that 400 go further if I could get myself to end the sessions on the 30 minute mark. Just thinking aloud.

Antex

07-18-12, 09:39

Charlie 123

07-18-12, 12:13

Hi LJ. There is an ATM to withdraw cash at Artemis. I've allways seen it but never used it. A friend of mine did use it and noticed from the bank report that the name that appeared was directly connected with the club. Not a problem for me or for him but might be a problem for some. Sorry but I don't have more details about this.

Ciao.

KiminoThis is the (slightly modified) entry from my DB statement from the last time I used my card in Artemis' ATM:-

19. 04/19. 09UHR CARDPOINT EUR 200, 00 ENTGELT 7, 99 GA NR49XX13X3 BLZ380XX006 7 002137 1152 0799

Looks pretty anonymous to me.

Note the 7. 99E commission

The ATM is a service from an independent company with many sites, of which Artemis is one. No doubt some commercial arrangement exists between the ATM provider and the club, to which you are not a party. You are doing business with the ATM provider and your bank statement should reflect that fact.
At Artemis you can also pay entry fee and obtain cash at reception using their credit-card machine, just as you might at any retailer. On such occasion your custom is with Artemis, and I'd be not at all surprised to see either 'Artemis', or the name of one one of it's operating companies, on the statement entry

C

Member #4243

07-18-12, 15:38

I think it is pointless having a thread about a particular club and then filling it up with data regarding a completely unrelated topic. I think on my side this was just a one off attempt to help lj.

Kimino

07-18-12, 16:19

This is the (slightly modified) entry from my DB statement from the last time I used my card in Artemis' ATM:-

19. 04/19. 09UHR CARDPOINT EUR 200, 00 ENTGELT 7, 99 GA NR49XX13X3 BLZ380XX006 7 002137 1152 0799

Looks pretty anonymous to me.

Note the 7. 99E commissionCalled up my friend just to check.

He used the ATM machine at Artemis, the cash dispenser.

He didn't use a credit card but a "Bancomat" that's what they call it in Italy. It's used to get cash but also to make payments in shops.

The string "Artemis" was clearly visible on the bank report.

So it probably depends on the type of network being used and the type of card.

He didn't try with the credit card so I don't know about that.

Kimino

Rocketboy0

07-18-12, 19:09

The string "Artemis" was clearly visible on the bank report. So it probably depends on the type of network being used and the type of card.

He didn't try with the credit card so I don't know about that. KiminoI betcha S Berlusconi knows a thing or two about such details (he probably never used a Bancomat for the Bunga Bunga).

Rocketboy0

07-18-12, 19:20

On my bank report it just said "VOEB-ZVD CARDPOINT ATM" and I don't relate that to the club, or shold I?

AnteBe afraid. Be very afraid.

The Code stands for a location with "Very Often Erect Boys- Zusammen mit Vielen Damen", and you will have a tough time convincing others this is a PostBank or DB ATM terminal.

Cash rules lads, you just have to get through the heavy crime areas and scam taxis, in front.

Rocketboy0

07-18-12, 19:29

I suppose I could eliminate the DATY preliminaries and start the session off with BBBJ and between that and some sex positions I guess I could pop within the 30 minutes.

But then, what is the goal here? Is it only to enjoy the pleasure of the ultimate orgasm and ejaculation? To get to the end of the experience? If so, I should get my business done within the 30 minutes. Or is it rather the "process of sex" that is to be enjoyed, and prolonging it, and luxuriating in it, is the goal to be enjoyed? If so, the enjoyment I get from playing with a pretty girl and kissing her body and licking her sexy little pussy, from which I do get arousal pleasure from, this too Is worth paying for by having an hour long session, or even an hour and a half session. And what of paying for a session where I have sex but know that I will not cum in the end and there will be no ejaculation, either by willpower and control, or because I have no sperm left? Isn't it worth it to pay for such a session too, or is it time to quit when there's no more sperm? I wonder what other guys feel? I sure could make that 400 go further if I could get myself to end the sessions on the 30 minute mark. Just thinking aloud.Woody Allen once said,"This is nothing a little Prozac and a polo club couldn't cure".

Mohab is right though - should be administered in the Lounge.

Diet Coke

07-18-12, 20:10

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

The Code stands for a location with "Very Often Erect Boys- Zusammen mit Vielen Damen", and you will have a tough time convincing others this is a PostBank or DB ATM terminal.

Cash rules lads, you just have to get through the heavy crime areas and scam taxis, in front.Any suggestions on where is get the best rates when changing dollars for Euros? I have used Deutsche bank, but I thought the amount was significantly less than their ATMs. I prefer not to leave the ATM trail when changing large amounts.

CaptRenno

07-19-12, 01:07

I've been back from Germany about six weeks now and I'm finally getting around to filing another report on my trip. I described the first night of my trip in my report of May 30, when I met the beautiful Sheenya. The other girl that I met that night was Dalia, a Turkish girl raised in Germany. She was nice enough but nothing special, especially compared to Sheenya. Sheenya offers the rare combination of real beauty and great service. I'll never know whether she really shared my enthusiasm for having sex in the kino, but she convinced me that she did and that's all that matters. As I noted in my review, she offered 69 and then performed it until I had to stop her and proceed to the next level. What a girl!

After my first visit (which was actually Tuesday May 29 and not Wednesday as I noted) I took the next night off. I was suffering from allergies along with half the population of Berlin. The weather was warm and windy and certain trees were flooding the air with pollen. A helpful, attractive pharmacist fixed me up with some very inexpensive generic Claritin and a double dose of that finally stopped the flow in my nose. So on Thursday evening I returned Berlin's stately pleasure dome of Artemis.

I was staying in the Hilton Garden Inn which is near Savignplatz and only two stops away from Artemis on the S-bahn. It's a nice hotel in a great location with easy access to Savignyplatz (restaurants and the S-bahn station) and the Kurfurstendamm. If you leave Artemis too late to catch the last S-bahn, then a taxi to there will cost only about 10 Euros.

Anyway, I arrived at Artemis at about 6:30 only to find 2 or 3 police cars parked right in front of the main door. At first I wondered if it might be some kind of bust (extremely unlikely) or maybe a dispute involving a customer (extremely rare). But approaching the door I saw that a guy was sprawled on the ground right in the doorway. He was passed out cold, apparently dead drunk. A couple officers and a couple of his friends (one guy just wearing his towel) were bent over him but not really doing anything to help him. There were a couple other customers and girls waiting to get in. Finally an ambulance arrived and the paramedics attended to him briefly before loading him on a stretcher and depositing him in the back of the ambulance. Poor devil. There he was in Paradise and he was so unable to cope with the experience of having 60 sexy, naked women offering themselves to him for a mere 50 Euros each that he chose to drink himself into a stupor.

Once inside the club I resumed my little game from two nights before of pretending to only speak and understand French as a means of fending off the sharks. It works great (as long as you actually speak French or some other equally obscure language). The only problem with it is knowing when to drop the charade with a girl that catches my interest. I wandered around for awhile, got something to eat, scoped out the girls, and fended off attacks while occasionally switching to English to converse with girls who struck my fancy. I had no compunctions about my linguistic deceptions. All the girls are playing a game too and they're professionals at it. It's only fair that we guys be allowed to use a trick or two to be able to navigate our way through the shark-filled waters. I use the term shark loosely though. Most Artemis girls are not sharks according to the traditional meaning. But I assume all FKK girls are sharks in some sense. It's just that some are harmless angel sharks and some are great whites and then there's everything in between. You do what you have to do to help yourself navigate through the potentially dangerous waters of an FKK.

After awhile I posted up on the couch right next to the kino on the main floor. I knew that I wanted to go back in there and have another wicked encounter in the shadows, like the one I had with Sheenya two days before. But sitting next to the kino will draw sharks faster than a boatload of chum tossed into the Coral Sea off the coast of Australia will. I fought off a number of advances, some from dangerous man-eaters and others from friendly, harmless creatures who just didn't appeal to me.

Eventually the improbably named Jane sauntered over. Hmm, this one looks kind of interesting I thought as she approached me. She looks tall (always hard to tell with those giant stripper heels they all wear). She has long blond tresses and a pleasing face. She is slender but definitely not skinny. She has an athletic build but still has curves in the right places. She reminds me of Maria Sharapova. Her legs are long and elegant and words like lithe, lissome, supple, and flexible describe my overall impression of her figure. Take a look at her photo on the Artemis Web site and you'll see what I mean.

She smiled at me and bent down to introduce herself. I quickly dropped the language charade and we spoke for a couple minutes in English. I learned she is German (my interest in her increased immediately since I have had good experiences with the German girls and they seem to be an increasingly rare presence in the clubs these days). She was very personable and I was almost ready to invite to accompany me into the kino but I was so in awe of her physical attractiveness that I hesitated a bit, fearing that such a girl might not deliver good service. So I put her off for the moment, giving her the standard "maybe later" line. Then I watched her walk back towards the bar area, mesmerized by her long legs and her gently swaying hips. The lyrics of a Zac Brown song popped into my head: Now I'm fallin' in love as she's walkin' away.

Suddenly, I came to my senses. I couldn't let this girl slip away like that. I might not see her again tonight. A German girl with her looks is going to be in demand all night. My initial interaction with her was good. What was I waiting for? An engraved invitation in iambic pentameter to have sex with her? But hanging around a place like Artemis can cloud your judgment. Yes, you need to take your time, meet more than a few girls and interact with them a bit and then be selective. But once you've done all that and the girl of your dreams is standing in front of you ready to take you into the kino and fulfill your fantasies, then "maybe later" is not the right response!

By now she was out of sight, but I jumped off the couch and hustled my way after her. Luckily she had not gone far and she was just standing around near the entrance to the main room. I pulled her aside and got down to business with her. Me: "You know, I think right now would be better than later." Her: "OK fine." Me: "Will you go in the kino and have sex with me in there?" Her: "Ja kein Problem." Me: "So are you sure you don't mind having sex in the kino?" Her: "No I love it. It's so boring going to the room all the time. I like to have a change of scene." WOW. If Jane had turned out to be the real Maria Sharapova, I would not have been more thrilled. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that Sharapova would not have sex with me in the kino.

The next thirty minutes went by in blur. I lay down in the back of the kino and Jane expertly delivered a most satisfying BBBJ. She continued enthusiastically until I said that was enough and I wanted to have sex. It seemed to me that Jane's body had been custom-designed for doggie style so I didn't waste time with other positions. As a lover, Jane was eager, energetic and exciting. I'm not always able to climax inside the girls when wearing those darn condoms, but there was no problem with Jane. I even had to hold back a little so that I didn't cum too soon. After we finished Jane lay beside me for about 10 minutes while I recovered my composure. All in all, perhaps the most satisfying encounter I've ever had in an FKK and one of the most satisfying sexual experiences I've ever had. Vielen Dank, Jane!

Rocketboy0

07-19-12, 08:28

Any suggestions on where is get the best rates when changing dollars for Euros? I have used Deutsche bank, but I thought the amount was significantly less than their ATMs. I prefer not to leave the ATM trail when changing large amounts.Not sure what you mean by "the amount"-the total you withdrew or the service charge? And are you saying you went to a cash window vs a DB ATM?

The problem is several variables at work. Euro exchange rates are fluctuating a lot at the moment, and service charges on credit cards seem to be roughly 1. But these also can vary. Whether this varies from bank to bank vs credit card to card, I don't know. There may also be charges applied by your home bank. I would think the larger bank ATMs are fairly competitive and the way to go vs smaller shop or Artemis ATMs. I use a debit card and occasionally track the exchange rates which don't seem out of whack, at various banks around the city. Charlie123 may know alot more about this, and his earlier comment with a whopping ATM service charge is an eye-opener. I would think that in general, an ATM in a kind of odd place away from a bank has to somehow pay for itself and what Charlie observed would clearly do so. But the eg Sparbank ATMs you find in many U-Bahn stations seem ok. I would think all things being equal ATMs might have less charges than a human staffed desk, but really don`t know. They are surely better than some Currency Exchange window. It does seem wise to steer clear of the Artemis ATM if possible. Make plans without your glans.

Charlie. Thoughts?

Angus Magee

07-19-12, 09:00

Any suggestions on where is get the best rates when changing dollars for Euros?For what it is worth I have been told that this place gives a good rate.

http://www.euro-change.de/index.php

Whether or not it is worth going out of your way for I guess depends upon how much you are changing. It is in the Europa Center (and other locations) which is pretty central, and for that matter right on the way to Liberty.

AM

Belvaros

07-19-12, 15:54

Bugger my drunk mother in law. I should just stand in front of Artemis an "wash" your money for you guys. We could add an ATM business to the car parking business.

Belvaros

07-19-12, 16:41

so i finally got rid of my rental car. just as well. seeing the effing car parking team has squandered it's chance to earn my whopping tip for safely parking my steed. i quietly entered artemis for my 5th trip within 2 months anticipating a slow down in the scene.

nope.

there are still plenty of pse hotties on the work force for summer within the sweet confines of artemis.

i am however concerned about the "insider trading" going on here in the forum. the last 2 days i went, i tried to get a session with ms "long in the tooth", but it appears the said research report by lord angus magee and my extremely bullish pre-market bids had escaped into the market and i was front run on all occasions. it appears miss ella "stella bella" is in great demand and i for one am a sad bloke. nevertheless i found plenty of bored and lonely lasses to fulfil my perverted simple dreams.

(1) marketa. a lassie from slovakia i presume. she of the bewt blonde hair and tight trim body did suck me dry in a matter of minutes in the kino area before we got to a room and i could fuck her perfect brains out in all manner of positions. cim standard 1 hour fair but a perfect session to start my foray back at fkk artemis. this girl is a nice one. seems intelligent and really gets into her business. made me feel so nice. looks = 85/100 performance = 90/100 attitude = 95/100.

(2) fanny. shark of the tiger variety. this lass was really a slightly chubby milfy type who at 1st appeared to be a shark but later in the room turned out one could swim in the same pool as her as she softened considerably and even rimmed me for a good 10 minutes or so and let me dfk (which i rarely do in fkk) and eat her considerably sweet older pussy. very tasty indeed. i ay older because she claims to be in her 20s. i am in my 50s and if she is a day younger than 39 then i am a monkey's brain surgeon. in the bar area she initially tried to up-sell me on anal and cim etc but i was firm with her and explained the current bull market in ella's stock could be switched to her if she did as i wanted. i ended up cim and having a right royal root or 3 and 1 nice pop all over her face / mouth / ample tits, with a bit going into the poor woman's hair (it of the black / bright dark red dyed variety). anyway she was a nice lass and overall a good time was had. looks = 70/100 attitude = ymmv performance = 80/100.

(3) iyonella. i finished session 2 and headed for some rest in the pool area. i moved a couch thingy a few feet away behind a small pole and caught some zzzzzz's only to be awoken by a weird site around 35 minutes later. a young lassies was massaging my head and chest (opened my wee little robe) and when my eyes opened she proceeded to sit right on top of me. the lady looks spanish or turkish. a magnificent spinner's body but an average head (by fkk standards). what we may call a "lobster. a nice body but with a head full of sheet". i tried to say no but her body was really good. so i paid her to suck me dry for 1/2 hour with the added bonus potential of cim if i could possibly cum yet again. within a 3 hour window (i came 4 times in 2 hours). anyway her technique was very harsh. toothy and then too bloody hard. i stopped her 10 mins or so in and told her i could not cum again so quickly so she should fuck me cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. surprisingly great ride but i could just not stay hard with the gummie bear so tight and horrid (where the fuck do they make those things. super thick and super bad). it appears this lady works elsewhere in the fkks and is here at artemis and berlin for a few weeks over summer.

looks (body = 90/100 is super hot) face ok (55/100) , but as she is a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) and ymmv i give her 25/100 for attitude, performance = 35/100 for bbbj and 79/100 for fucking skills. hey she tried but the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) kind of put me off.

it appears though walking around that some girls are away but many are back from 2-3 week holidays. i recognized a few beauties including busty blonde nicky, alena, fatima, nicole, rafaela and cheyenne

Nebula2001

07-19-12, 19:10

FKK Atremis. Line up is VERY GOODI was at the big A yesterday to warm up for Signore Kimino's blitztrip next week, and can concur with Belvaros. I don't know if there's big messe in town, but I couldn't differentiate it from a regular night in, say, January. Many girls, even more men, 10 minute waiting queue for rooms, the usual.

Toscana

07-19-12, 19:21

Thanks for the report.

I resumed my little game from two nights before of pretending to only speak and understand French as a means of fending off the sharks. It works great (as long as you actually speak French or some other EQUALLY OBSCURE language).Nice put down.

Kimino

07-20-12, 08:02

I was at the big A yesterday to warm up for Signore Kimino's blitztrip next week, and can concur with Belvaros. I don't know if there's big messe in town, but I couldn't differentiate it from a regular night in, say, January. Many girls, even more men, 10 minute waiting queue for rooms, the usual.Hi Nebula2001, thanks for the report!

Thats good news from a very trusted source!

Happy to hear.

Being at least 4 months that I don't visit Art, I think it's going to be all new talents for me. Looking forward to meet up.

Ciao.

Kimino the tourist

Belvaros

07-20-12, 14:50

Kimino

07-20-12, 19:07

Can one take a girl to the showers for sex. I know I should have asked last time I as there but it slipped my mind. Have this thing about fucking soaped up huge boobed broads in the shower standing up doggy. Heading back to the ART on Saturday for a full day's workout. Giving the escort scene a miss. Too much hit and MISS.Don't think you can do that in Artemis, maybe in the showers upstairs. Never seen that.

For that you need an Fkk with showers in the rooms. For direct experience you can have that in Fkk Andiamo, in Villach. LOL.

Ciao!

Kimino the tourist

Angus Magee

07-20-12, 19:15

Can one take a girl to the showers for sex. I know I should have asked last time I as there but it slipped my mind. Have this thing about fucking soaped up huge boobed broads in the shower standing up doggy. Heading back to the ART on Saturday for a full day's workout. Giving the escort scene a miss. Too much hit and MISS.There is upstairs (the floor with the rooms) a small bathroom with a couple of shower stalls. I am sure if you could find a girl who is game this could be used for such activity. Finding a girl who is into it might be difficult but you never know if your powers are persuasion are good enough.

AM

Nebula2001

07-21-12, 01:15

There is upstairs (the floor with the rooms) a small bathroom with a couple of shower stalls. I am sure if you could find a girl who is game this could be used for such activity. Finding a girl who is into it might be difficult but you never know if your powers are persuasion are good enough.

AMHaving fooled around with a girl in the women's bathroom upstairs a few times, I agree that it's possible but not very probable.

Forcharles

07-21-12, 06:14

All in all, perhaps the most satisfying encounter I've ever had in an FKK and one of the most satisfying sexual experiences I've ever had. Vielen Dank, Jane!Wow! Great report Capt'and.

Chicafan

07-21-12, 08:52

(3) iyonella. i finished session 2 and headed for some rest in the pool area. i moved a couch thingy a few feet away behind a small pole and caught some zzzzzz's only to be awoken by a weird site around 35 minutes later. as she is a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) and ymmv i give her 25/100 for attitude, performance = 35/100 for bbbj and 79/100 for fucking skills. hey she tried but the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) kind of put me off.

it appears though walking around that some girls are away but many are back from 2-3 week holidays. i recognized a few beauties including busty blonde nicky, alena, fatima, nicole, rafaela and cheyennesorry to hear that belvaros. i find it incredibly annoying when a girl wakes me or won't leave me alone when i'm trying to rest. i get it, they want to make money. but for crying out loud at least have a good service to offer. i remember one girl waking me in the kino, wouldn't leave me alone, then turned out to be a fish in the room. she had a great body as well.

Angus Magee

07-21-12, 09:04

Sorry to hear that Belvaros. I find it incredibly annoying when a girl wakes me or won't leave me alone when I'm trying to rest. I get it, they want to make money. But for crying out loud at least have a good service to offer. I remember one girl waking me in the kino, wouldn't leave me alone, then turned out to be a fish in the room. She had a great body as well.I have to say if a girl wakes you from sleep pesters you when you are obviously resting this should serve as a major red flag that her service in the room will be less than stellar. Hopefully for you, lesson learned.

AM

Belvaros

07-21-12, 18:59

I have to say if a girl wakes you from sleep pesters you when you are obviously resting this should serve as a major red flag that her service in the room will be less than stellar. Hopefully for you, lesson learned.

AMI agree and then again, I always try to look at it from her perspective. Imagine sitting there all day every day and sucking the dicks of us old coots. Every day. 5,6 or 8 times a day and then on a quiet day, she (you) come across this vision of Irish / Australian beauty just lying there ripe for the taking. I may well just jump on top too. Anyway. The girl was okay. I just wanted to sleep for 2 hours so I could get it up again later. No major damage done except from a privacy POV and some quids.

Charlie 123

07-22-12, 11:52

Can one take a girl to the showers for sex. I know I should have asked last time I as there but it slipped my mind. Have this thing about fucking soaped up huge boobed broads in the shower standing up doggy.What a great idea!

Downstairs no way, but maybe on the first floor as a few have suggested. I'm going to find out this week. There are a couple of my favourite girls who come immediately to mind who would do pretty much anything for me so long as it didn't cost them their job, so I'll try and cajole one of them to let me fuck her in the shower. If neither of them will go for it, it's probably not achievable.

I'll let you know.

C.

P. S. Kimino. Remind me about this please when we're there on Wednesday, I'm definitely going to make this a target, disgusted that I didn't think of it myself.

Angus Magee

07-22-12, 14:45

What a great idea!If anyone can pull this off Charlie it will be you. Just watch you don't slip on the soap or anything.

I have faith in you Charlie

;)

AM

Kimino

07-22-12, 14:59

P. S. Kimino. Remind me about this please when we're there on Wednesday, I'm definitely going to make this a target, disgusted that I didn't think of it myself.Sure man!

Want me to wear something particular? LOL.

Can't wait to be there!

Ciao.

Kimino

Rocketboy0

07-22-12, 16:53

Sure man!

Want me to wear something particular? LOL.

Can't wait to be there!

Ciao. KiminoWell one thing I would not wear is a shower cap.

However, you raise as always an interesting question; What should one bring to such a bridal shower? If I were one of the girls (and I am only pre-op, pre hormone as you know) so this is speculation) I would think they would have 2 concerns: 1 / the water might wash away natural lubricants so having some lube handy might be, ah handy. 2 / of far more concern. Their hair getting wet. It is impossible to overstate how concerned women are about such things, and splashing about doggy style in the act of passion. So maybe a shower cap not so stupid. I find shower caps almost as erotic as manhole covers, so I dunno. Maybe you can find one with a propeller?

Angus Magee

07-22-12, 17:18

I find shower caps almost as erotic as manhole covers,Yeah but I have seen how you eye up the manhole covers on the streets of Berlin. None are safe when you have a couple of beers in you.

As I say, many guys would not be able to sell the idea of shower sex to a girl for the very reason you mention RB. But if anyone can do it, it is our man Charlie. I am sure of it.

AM

Norjan

07-22-12, 20:50

Sure man!

Want me to wear something particular? LOL.

Can't wait to be there!

Ciao.

KiminoDo wear slippers.

Good luck man, really hope you will make it! Would be quite a show.

Norjan

Member #4285

07-23-12, 19:42

Is it a public shower? Maybe I will look when Charlie does it, the pervert I am.

Angus Magee

07-23-12, 19:54

Is it a public shower? Maybe I will look when Charlie does it, the pervert I am.Not a public shower really. It is upstairs and you have to be with a girl to go upstairs. It is not really used that much. I have just been told about it by a girl when I was upstairs and mentioned I wanted to take a shower before sex. Rather than send me downstairs she took me there.

AM

Ortos

07-23-12, 20:10

Not a public shower really. It is upstairs and you have to be with a girl to go upstairs. It is not really used that much. I have just been told about it by a girl when I was upstairs and mentioned I wanted to take a shower before sex. Rather than send me downstairs she took me there.

AMAre you saying that, at Artemis, male guests cannot walk around the Zimmer area (s) unless they are on the way to the room with a girl?

If so, that is a major difference between Artemis and the Hessen clubs; at Oase, World and Palace, for example, one can wonder and roam through the club at will, whether or not you are on the way 'zum Zimmer' with a girl.

O

Angus Magee

07-23-12, 20:19

Are you saying that, at Artemis, male guests cannot walk around the Zimmer area (s) unless they are on the way to the room with a girl?

If so, that is a major difference between Artemis and the Hessen clubs; at Oase, World and Palace, for example, one can wonder and roam through the club at will, whether or not you are on the way 'zum Zimmer' with a girl.

OAt the moment (I think it will change a bit with the new areas being presently built) all the rooms, except for maybe 3 by the downstairs kino, are upstairs on the 1st floor. Up there is a waiting area and the rooms off a hallway. In fact you are not supposed to head up there without a girl. In all honesty though I would see no reason that you would want to go up alone as there is nothing there except rooms, this much talked about shower, I believe the Doctor's office and maybe some other private areas.

AM

Kbkbal

07-25-12, 06:11

Not a public shower really. It is upstairs and you have to be with a girl to go upstairs. It is not really used that much. I have just been told about it by a girl when I was upstairs and mentioned I wanted to take a shower before sex. Rather than send me downstairs she took me there.

AMYup, there's a small gents' loo upstairs with a shower stall. I was taken there by my third bird (hey, that rhymes!) on my last visit. Much more civilised than the main locker room downstairs.

Kbkbal

07-25-12, 06:43

I was back in Berlin after a year and Artemis was at the front of my mind, so headed there literally two minutes after checking into the hotel an dropping my bags off in my room!

Stayed for about three hours and had three rounds, just like my previous visit.

Round 1: Pretty little Romanian girl, whose name I've forgotten. She was really sweet-faced, very much a girl-next-door type, sitting quietly with a few of the other girls and just looking around. I hung around for a bit waiting to catch her eye, but after a while just walked over, said hello and took her off upstairs. She turned out to be a really lovely girl. Friendly, very obliging and she seemed to really get into the swing of things. She's only been working at Artemis a few months so I guess she hasn't become "hard-nosed" as yet. She had fantastic breasts to go with her pretty face. At first I had thought they were store-bought, but they turned out to be very real. She turned out to be my favourite encounter of the day. Had a nice chat and a bit of of a snog and then lay back as she gave me a wonderful, languorous blowjob. Turned her round into 69 and she got very wet, which spurred me on all the more! Paid the extra fee for COF as I just had to see that sweet face with my spunk all over it. What a sight it was too. Cleaned up, bit of a hug and a kiss at the safety boxes and my Artemis visit off to a great start.

Round 2: Tall German (or so she said) girl called "Leah". My schoolboy error of the day, failing to remember the lessons learned from my first visit last year. Very much a seasoned pro. A "shark" in Angus' terminology. She gave me the hard sell (albeit softly) and I fell for it. Up in the room, while it stayed very cordial, services rendered were nowhere near as exciting as promised and I pretty much lost wood (I'm a sensitive chap like that.). I went through the motions as much as she did and got her to take care of me "manually" to finish.

Round 3: Lovely Hungarian girl,"Alicia". I remembered her from last year. She had approached me when I was recuperating from that visit's second round and then I lost sight of her by the time I was ready to go again. So I was very happy to find her still working at Artemis (saw a couple of others from last year still there too, which I guess is a good sign). She approached me while I was recovering from round two this time as well, but I made sure to let her know I was up for it and to please find me again twenty minutes later. While I was waiting for her to come back, three other girls came and plonked themselves around me on the sofa. They were mostly chatting amongst themselves but I noticed that Alicia, who had come back, didn't approach so I excused myself and went up to her. She said she didn't like to approach me while the other girls were there in case they thought she was trying to poach their client. Fair enough, too. Very friendly girl, Alicia. Pretty good-looking, too: dark hair, lovely perky pair of boobs, slim and leggy. She didn't kiss, which was rather disappointing and she was also a bit of a "cheese-grater" when it came to blowing time, which was as painful as it was disappointing. Tried some 69, which went down well (pardon the bad pun) but the cheese-grating was getting rather unbearable, so I moved into the main act, which was turned out to be far more enjoyable. She had told me that she also did A-levels, and I was sorely tempted as I went at it doggy style, seeing that very cute (not an adjective one would normally use, but true in this case) little bumhole winking at me but, fortunately, the head with the real brain in it actually prevailed and I managed to keep the extra 100 euro in my pocket and stay within budget. Although her BJ skills weren't too hot, Alicia was very adept at ball-licking and I finished with her jerking me off as she gave my misters a lovely lapping.

One of the girls who had plonked herself next to me earlier was a cute little Turkish delight and I was quite tempted to seek her out, but good sense prevailed again, which was fortunate as I would have never survived a 4th round.

I exited the premises worn out, but happy, albeit a little disappointed with round two. Now I need to find some excuse to come back to Berlin next year without raising the suspicions of my nearest and dearest!

Crazy Diamond

07-25-12, 10:43

Yesterday I had my first bad experience in Artemis. After years around german FKKs.

I've to say I'm always kind with girls thinking it's a tough job for them.

I met Martha from Latvia or Lettland with a long tattoo script from back neck along backbone, but she told me she's Polish. Anyway. No problem for that.

We went in the room after discussing about "terms and conditions". But sometimes you can miss some obvious and common details like 69 or french kiss. Even kissing eventually her hand.)

She asked for 20€ more for any of them. I've kindly declined to all of them because I felt it unfair and I decide to cut the session off, giving her 60€ for nothing.

It's nice to describe or report beautiful girls around FKKs and I've a long list of them and I've never complained for anything!

Unfortunately yesterday I got into a bad experience and there weren't my favorite girls.

If you don't feel good or it's not a right day to work, nobody forces you to work.

Rocketboy0

07-25-12, 16:30

Yesterday I had my first bad experience in Artemis. She asked for 20€ more for any of them. I've kindly declined to all of them because I felt it unfair and I decide to cut the session off, giving her 60€ for nothing.In this situation, you should break off immediately, and then go right to the front desk to complain. At least then they know what is going on, this girl has a "watch" signal sent to the management, and you have a chance to get some / all your money back.

Angus Magee

07-25-12, 17:10

In this situation, you should break off immediately, and then go right to the front desk to complain. At least then they know what is going on, this girl has a "watch" signal sent to the management, and you have a chance to get some / all your money back.Got to agree that it really would have been better if you had gone to the desk with this. The deal is supposed to be €60 for BJ & fuck. Kissing is not mandatory for the girl nor are things like 69 or licking her pussy. So if she had just stopped there and said no, she would have been in the clear. As soon as she tried though to charge €20 for these services I believe she was on the wrong side of the house policy and a trip to the front desk would have been uncomfortable for her. Her reaction would likely have been to back down. The session was probably un-saveable, but as RB says, a mention at the desk would have given the management a reason to keep an eye on these practices and would discourage them from others.

In any case thanks for mentioning it here so at least those who pay attention to the thread will have a bit of a heads up with her service.

AM

Angus Magee

07-25-12, 17:24

Round 2: Tall German (or so she said) girl called "Leah". My schoolboy error of the day, failing to remember the lessons learned from my first visit last year. Very much a seasoned pro. A "shark" in Angus' terminology. She gave me the hard sell (albeit softly) and I fell for it. Up in the room, while it stayed very cordial, services rendered were nowhere near as exciting as promised and I pretty much lost wood (I'm a sensitive chap like that.). I went through the motions as much as she did and got her to take care of me "manually" to finish.!I have had a session with Leah and I would not classify her as a shark, though I think she can be a pretty hard core pro. She is pretty clear about her boundaries and will not do certain things. I would say she is one of the hottest girls working at Artemis at the moment. I do realise the "hottness" is quite subjective but the way she carries herself makes you realise that she is hot and damn does she know it.

As I say, I had one hour long session but have never repeated. That tells you something. If you happen to like her look and don't mind "optifiks" she is not the worst choice available.

AM

Belvaros

07-25-12, 17:38

I was back in Berlin after a year and Artemis was at the front of my mind, so headed there literally two minutes after checking into the hotel an dropping my bags off in my room!

Round 2: Tall German (or so she said) girl called "Leah". My schoolboy error of the day, failing to remember the lessons learned from my first visit last year. Very much a seasoned pro. A "shark" in Angus' terminology. She gave me the hard sell (albeit softly) and I fell for it. Up in the room, while it stayed very cordial, services rendered were nowhere near as exciting as promised and I pretty much lost wood (I'm a sensitive chap like that.). I went through the motions as much as she did and got her to take care of me "manually" to finish.

I exited the premises worn out, but happy, albeit a little disappointed with round two. Now I need to find some excuse to come back to Berlin next year without raising the suspicions of my nearest and dearest!Was it this Lia. Girl is MEGA hot and scares the living BeJesus out of me. But what an opti-fuck!

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?attachment_id=730

The Limey

07-25-12, 23:26

I took me over two hours to select a girl for my first session, and that turned out to be my only genuinely bad session at Artemis. I went with Alisha, who really has a stunningly beautiful face. Too bad that I never saw a smile on that face. In the room she immediately tried to make me upgrade to anal, and seemed pretty pissed when I said it was too expensive for me. After that she seemed to just try to get me off as quickly as possible. Her blowjob was way too harsh, and after some fucking she started to give me a handjob that was just painful. She eased off a bit when I complained, but at this point I decided to save my energy for some other girl, so I interrupted the session after barely 15 minutes spent in the room.Alisha from Hungary is a switch-girl. Looking back through this thread, I see I am not the first to fall for her, but I sure hope I am the last. People need to be warned to avoid her.

Normally I have pretty good picks at Artemis. I filter out the bad ones by chatting to them. But today was over 30 degrees. There was generally a good atmosphere, the girls were getting wild, and my own mood was affected: I really felt like a run-and-go. So I took this sweet-sounding girl up after only 60 seconds.

What a mistake! Having sex with her was like having sex with a Bramble Bush. She was pretty much insulting me the whole way through.

Anyway, at least Artemis have got rid of the all-time worst switch-girl, Janine the tall black-haired one. That is basically why I am giving this place another go.

Smoky Jack

07-26-12, 02:13

Alisha from Hungary is a switch-girl. Looking back through this thread, I see I am not the first to fall for her, but I sure hope I am the last. People need to be warned to avoid her.

Normally I have pretty good picks at Artemis. I filter out the bad ones by chatting to them. But today was over 30 degrees. There was generally a good atmosphere, the girls were getting wild, and my own mood was affected: I really felt like a run-and-go. So I took this sweet-sounding girl up after only 60 seconds.

What a mistake! Having sex with her was like having sex with a Bramble Bush. She was pretty much insulting me the whole way through.

Anyway, at least Artemis have got rid of the all-time worst switch-girl, Janine the tall black-haired one. That is basically why I am giving this place another go.Have you guys walked out once those negotiations start? You can usually tell when a girl is going to give you crappy service because you don't want CIM or Anal. Obviously it is best to discuss in advance. But our little head takes over sometimes.

Kimino

07-26-12, 02:23

Arrived around 4:00pm, few girls around, more came in the next hour. Number was low but quality high.

This was my first visit since 4 months as I've been visiting Palace a bit and many of the girls were totally new.

I then meeted up with Charlie123, Nebula2001 and Kid Icarus. First time I meet him, we had great fun chatting around, nice guy!

Wanted to immediately find a girl, Alicia (Alisha) was passing by, took her.

Alicia, Hungarian. Black hair, not tall. Nice smile.

In the room she was relaxed and we had fun but never actually clicked, kind of mechanic on both sides. Mediocre session. Won't repeat. 30min + cim. 110eu.

No upselling or anything like it.

Sauna, bath, chat with the friends, then I saw Anya.

Anya, Polish, blonde. Nice but not perfect. Big lips, fake. Probably late twenties, maybe more. Very white skin. Been here 3 days. Usually at palace.

She was sure we already sessioned together, at Palace. Could be.

60eu plain vanilla, session. Does everything, very hot, PSE attitude.

Just a little bit too much mimic. Meaning moans etc.

While we were fucking she made me notice that she had goose bumbs on the skin of her legs as to tell me she liked it. I think she actually came during the session.

Ok session, won't repeat.

After that it was food time! Went out with Nebula and Charlie for some Etiopian food. We also wanted to go visit Monrouge after that but we then decided to go back to Art, around 10:30pm.

Meeted back with Kid Icarus. More girls and men came in.

After 10/20 minutes we all vanished in different directions.

This angel with red (rust red) long hair and sweet voice suddenly appeared, kissed me and said hi. I didn't recognize here right away, but then I did.

Natasha, Russian. Will go back to russia Friday until the 15th of August.

Mid / late twenties, absolutely perfect body, quite tall. Top performer. Speaks very little english.

Took her for an hour because she absolutely deserves it. One of the softest and more passionate BJ I had in a long time. We really had a great time. I recommend the girl.

Massage, quick chat with Kid Icarus and then decided to go back at hotel at 2:30.

Tomorrow, back to Artemis, probably same team and maybe Angus and RB joining in.

Kimino

Angus Magee

07-26-12, 06:48

Was it this Lia. Girl is MEGA hot and scares the living BeJesus out of me. But what an opti-fuck!

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?attachment_id=730Correction. The girl I am talking about is in fact Lia. Always thought her name was spelled Leah. Yup, mega hot describes her nicely.

AM

Kbkbal

07-26-12, 07:44

Alisha from Hungary is a switch-girl. Looking back through this thread, I see I am not the first to fall for her, but I sure hope I am the last. People need to be warned to avoid her.

Normally I have pretty good picks at Artemis. I filter out the bad ones by chatting to them. But today was over 30 degrees. There was generally a good atmosphere, the girls were getting wild, and my own mood was affected: I really felt like a run-and-go. So I took this sweet-sounding girl up after only 60 seconds.

What a mistake! Having sex with her was like having sex with a Bramble Bush. She was pretty much insulting me the whole way through.

Anyway, at least Artemis have got rid of the all-time worst switch-girl, Janine the tall black-haired one. That is basically why I am giving this place another go.Funny, I didn't think of her as a switch girl. She did lay out the full menu once we entered the room, but there was no change in attitude when I declined extras. We got on pretty well throughout. In fact, when I asked her to lick my balls and jerk me off at the end, she looked surprised and said "you sure you don't want more blowjob" quite solicitously. I guess it just goes to show that the mileage really does vary.

Kbkbal

07-26-12, 07:45

Correction. The girl I am talking about is in fact Lia. Always thought her name was spelled Leah. Yup, mega hot describes her nicely.

AMNope, the girl I was talking about wasn't this one. She was tall but nowhere near as hot.

Kbkbal

07-26-12, 07:46

I have had a session with Leah and I would not classify her as a shark, though I think she can be a pretty hard core pro. She is pretty clear about her boundaries and will not do certain things. I would say she is one of the hottest girls working at Artemis at the moment. I do realise the "hottness" is quite subjective but the way she carries herself makes you realise that she is hot and damn does she know it.

As I say, I had one hour long session but have never repeated. That tells you something. If you happen to like her look and don't mind "optifiks" she is not the worst choice available.

AMPardon my ignorance, but what are "optifiks"?

Angus Magee

07-26-12, 07:55

Pardon my ignorance, but what are "optifiks"?And optifik is a girl who you session with simply because you find her extraordinarily attractive. Usually with an optifik the service becomes secondary as you admit (to yourself) that it does not matter, the optic experience is enough. Sometime you do get a pleasant surprise when she turn out to be actually a good session.

Opti= optical.

Fik = fuck.

AM

The Limey

07-26-12, 11:08

Kimino

07-26-12, 11:13

Is there any rule or policy at Artemis about a girl not being allowed to go with a customer more than twice in a given year?

What I often find is that a girl will throw herself at me enthusiastically in order to have a second roll in the hay, but, on the chance of a third go, will act strangely and shy away. This has happened not with just one girl but with several.

Definitely feels fishy. Could account for the factory atmosphere you sometimes get.Ahahah, are you joking? Nothing like that.

Are you in Artemis in these days or did I misunderstood the reports.

There's going to be a bunch of ISG people tonight if you want to meet.

Ciao.

Kimino

Kimino

07-26-12, 12:02

Forgot to ask. Last night real late, I was approached by two dark haired (if I recall correctly) girls from Berlin, quite cute, one of them with some extra fat but not too much. Never seened them before.

They wanted to make a threesome and were quite gentle. I declined because I was going home but we said we might meet today. They looked like fine girls, not very pro and I think I might give it a try.

Anyone have specific info on them as being complete sharks or something?

Kimino

Angus Magee

07-26-12, 12:17

Definitely feels fishy. Could account for the factory atmosphere you sometimes get.Never heard any hint of such a policy. The girls are free to go or not go with whom ever they wish as many times as they wish and can convince. I have had several regular girls with whom I made multiple sessions over the course of a few months.

Perhaps there is something in your manner that puts them off? No disrespect intended but if, as you say, it is a pattern, it might be worth examining in yourself. Or not if the state of affaires suits you. I mean there are plenty of fish in that particular pond. Personally with most girls I am quite happy if the leave me alone after a session or two.

AM

ZimmerBaby

07-27-12, 10:58

Anya

While we were fucking she made me notice that she had goose bumbs on the skin of her legs as to tell me she liked it. I think she actually came during the session.

KiminoWTF! Exactly what she said to me. I felt special for once in a FFK time, but obviously I'm not. Disaster! BTW: did you notice the size of her pussy and her weight? Normal Body Mass Index (BMI) is 20-25, while she is below 13. Scary. Her pussy is at the size of an almond. While doing 69 I was wondering if I was committing a crime. Was expecting Angus or Rocketbaby to transport me to Tegel for a one way trip to Guantanamo Bay. Changing from white Artemis to orange american outfit. :)

Belvaros

07-27-12, 12:21

Finished in Vienna. Still IMHO the most over-rated city on earth. So was going on to Budapest but nahhhh. Will be back at Artemis maybe as early as tonight.

Anyone see Jenna there?

Kimino

07-27-12, 14:22

Really sneaky. Or maybe it's just because we are so great!

Ok, lets face it, we just can't beat them. Better surrender! LOL.

Anyways, great day yesterday, will file a report asap.

Must get some sleep now.

Just happy I was finally able to get this baby:

http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/dea.html

Kimino

Rocketboy0

07-27-12, 16:40

unbelievable?!!! she said the same to me (and i've not even met her).
the goose bumps could actually be just an allergic reaction (she might be allergic to men).
a vag the size of an almond? you must be a nutcase.
zimmerbaby, we are fueling up the plane.
i got goose bumps just reading this.
leo kotke once wrote that his own voice sounded like goose farts on a foggy day.

to slightly redeem myself, i broke as usual my own rule about giving the liebe bahnhoff a pass during summer, a willing victim of peer pressure.
great seeing some of the isg stalwarts for the rooftop tour de farce.
mr magee will likely (or not) report on his transcendent experience as will kc and the sunshine band, spreading good cheer, even more good euros, and not an inconsequential quantity of bodily fluids throughout west berlin. but

call me a curmudgeon, or just a man with standards, but i stand very much by my opinion that artemis pickings remain weaker than normal. others will disagree but such is our subjective reality-i was greatly underwhelmed. luckily an old kgb acquaintance, the tall lithe natasha, 30s a now auburn-haired honeypot was there doing her effective ruskie vampy thing. she is quite passionate, slow, and those lips can turn a mere penis into a proton rocket, and so it was not a complete bust. but a rather quiet night for a thursday and imho slimmer than normal choices. i shall wait til sept post ifa for sure, sticking to the local favs in the private flats.

still waiting for the "wet work" shower reports...

WarmStone25

07-27-12, 19:38

Artemis visit.

I visited Berlin for the third time on 23rd July. I intended on this visit to stay from about 14. 30 to about 19. 00. I intended to have three sessions.

After I left Artemis I wrote down the names of the girls and some comments about what I thought at the time.

First up was Alena from St Petersburg. Standard 60e session for 30 minutes. I rated this as a good session. Alena scored well for looks and body which I noted as very good. The performance in the room I noted as very good. She brought me to completion for the first time. Overall a very good session.

Second up was Susie from Berlin. Standard 60e session for 30 minutes. I watched her in the down stair lounge. She has very sexy looks long blonde hair, and sweet looks. I was pleased therefore to bump into her and get her to a room. Her performance in the room I noted as very good. Overall a very good session.

Next was Lulu from Austria. Standard 60e session for 30 minutes. Lulu had very good looks and a curvy slim figure. In terms of looks I thought that she was the best on show. I was pleased therefore when I bumped into her and got her to a room. Lulu did well in the room and changed position when requested. Lulu was not quiet as communicative in the room as the first two. I rated her overall as good.

Last but not least was Channel from Berlin. Standard 60e session for 30 minutes.

Channel bumped into me when I was looking for another girl. She had a curvy sexy figure and fair curly hair, and appeared to be have a bubbly nature. I was attracted so we went to a room. Channel performed very well in the room and was good fun as well. She brought me to completion for the second time that day. I rated her overall all as very good, the pick of the bunch.

This visit to Artemis was successful and I would session with any of these girls again.

This visit was also notable because I did something that I did not think that I would do. At one point the Kino next to the upstairs lounge was busy and blokes were in there with girls and unconcerned about who was watching. When Alena and I had agreed to get together we went to the Kino and got started in there. After 10 minutes we went to a room.

The visit was also notable for another reason.

I wanted to get to Artemis before the restaurant closed at three. So I dumped my stuff at the hotel and headed on the S-Bahn for Artemis. I made it in time and had a nice meal. Later I was in the downstair lounge waiting for the restaurant to open at six. I went up at that time and there were a lot more girls. The atmosphere had changed, it was sexier and there was a kind of tension in the air.

When I went into the lounge I felt like there were dozens of pairs of eyes on me. I made it through to the restaurant and had a good meal and numerous drinks. Later in my visit to Berlin I was at a beer garden and looking at their menu and prices put a value on the meals and drinks that I had at Artemis. I thought that the value should be at least 30e. So this 30e of added value should be deducted from the entrance fee. On arrival at Artemis I persuaded the girl to let me in for 40e.

Deducting the 30e this means I got into Artemis for 10e.

I left at about 19. 45 but I did not find that I was bored at any time. In between sessions I relaxed, rested, watched the action, and began to feel as if I was starting to understand the concept.

Sentin5

07-27-12, 20:37

Artemis was quite a spectacular experience all round, and that is with the benchmark already set high after a few visits to the other leading German venues. Almost as an important pit stop as the London Olympics opening ceremony, FKK Artemis was a venture that didn't come unstuck and showed its full potential until the wee hours. I was reasonably bored and ready to leave. Then, behold, the lovely Amiska made an entrance and was in top mood and actually made a sweet genuine effort. The Berlin FKK theatre is obviously not quite as extensive as for example Frankfurt but nevertheless makes for a fun visit.

We first went to the chillaxed pool area and then headed into one of the lovely classy Artemis rooms and had a quite a good time. Unfortunately we got interrupted after 2h as the club was closing but that was actually quite enough and left very pleased.

Now, the overall feeling of Artemis club of passion is one of mixed feelings. As far as an FKK goes, it has all the necessary facilities to make most customers happy but I do agree that there are quite alot of sharks around. I would rate it 3. 5 out of 5.

Smoky Jack

07-28-12, 01:25

Macca 74

07-28-12, 09:56

Finished in Vienna. Still IMHO the most over-rated city on earth. So was going on to Budapest but nahhhh. Will be back at Artemis maybe as early as tonight.

Anyone see Jenna there?She's back on Monday, according to her website:

http://nova-nice.de/news.htm

Some nice pics on there, too.

Angus Magee

07-28-12, 10:07

On arrival at Artemis I persuaded the girl to let me in for 40e.C'mon, you can not just drop this nugget with no explanation what so ever? How did you manage a 1/2 price entry? Are you a pensioner? A licensed Berlin taxi driver? Or do you just have the gift of gab.

Details, Details.

AM

Rocketboy0

07-28-12, 10:40

C'mon, you can not just drop this nugget with no explanation what so ever? How did you manage a 1/2 price entry? Are you a pensioner? A licensed Berlin taxi driver? Or do you just have the gift of gab. Details, Details. AMNo kidding. And was this on a Saturday? Did you chop off a limb or something?

I once tried and told the front desk I was retired. They said while I look 92, I have the mind of a 18 yr old, so keine Chance. Then I mentioned that I knew Angus, and they charged me extra.

Angus Magee

07-28-12, 12:10

Then I mentioned that I knew Angus, and they charged me extra.No doubt knowing that by having acquaintance with the legend you would get double the service from any girl you took to the room. Membership has its' privileges.

AM

Rocketboy0

07-28-12, 13:43

No doubt knowing that by having acquaintance with the legend you would get double the service from any girl you took to the room. Membership has its' privileges.AMAnd drugs have their effects. Or perhaps you meant "member slip"?

Anyway let us see what WarmStone's notes say about how he managed this low ball (s) entry feat. Of course, once it is out here, one can imagine it may become somewhat less effective as mongers try to copy. Berlin could suddenly have millions of retired taxi drivers. I still think we will still have to resort to getting reduced staff rates, via the Valets of the Dolls parking service.

I also forgot to mention the high point of my last visit (which says something, don' it?). Impressive progress being made on the new A wing which seems to have at least 2 stories above ground, and at least 1 below. I saw a large jacuzzi awaiting installation, resting in the parking lot. All planned to be operational by the 29 Sept Birthday Bash. It will never be the sweeping gardens of Oase, GT, World etc, nestled as it is between no less than 2 railway lines and an autobahn. But with a new kitchen and dining area, VIP rooms, a proper jacuzzi, some sort of performance stage, a rumour (started by me) of a shark-filled aquarium to aid in staff training, who knows? It would be nice if it allows a large, needed infusion of new talent as well.

Kimino

07-28-12, 14:01

Gorgeous! How was the service?Hi Smokee2003, here is the report, Berlin thread.

Ciao.

Kimino.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1309113&viewfull=1#post1309113

Kimino

07-28-12, 14:25

after visiting monrouge we arrived at artemis probably around 17:00.

don't know if it was before or after the first session but we then went at the roof outside facility to take some sun and chat with charlie, rb, nebula2001, angus and mecca74. great time!

the girls:

lulu, austrian, used to work at palace. she is the girl with which i didn't session when i went to palace and that i regretted non doing. i didn't see her from clodeup ath that club but seeing her here she was even better than what i expected.

beautyful, long black straight hair to her ass. big tatoo on both arms, body side, leg. on the back a chinese lettering tatoo running down the back, saying the usual, faith, love, peace, etc. etc.

absolute stunner but mediocre performer, quite a starfish but a real optiflick. she was quite passive although not cold or anything like that. i'm happy i went with her but it was more mental and visual than anything else.

30min + anal. 160 + tip.

won't repeat.

looks like i go to palace to fuck artemis girls and i go to artemis to fuck palace girls lately. lol.

susy, german from berlin. 25 yr blonde, very long extensions. an optiflick but real fun girl. sweet and very sexy.

she says she has a sister in the club, so when i saw a blonde hanging around with her i asked her if it was her sister but she wasn't. lol.

if it was her i would have certainly accepted the duo proposal.

anyway, i recommend, will repeat.

30min + cim. 110 + tip.

ok, i knew that i was doing a mistake, still. verena.

long blonde curly hair, dark eyes. a rose / flower tatoo on back. perfect body.

bulgarian, for me a total optiflick. she is cute, i like her appearance a lot. i know she can be a real starfish but this time it was a lot worse. she has been hunting me all evening, kissing me and sayng hi.

it was a mediocre, mechanic, session. apart from being a starfish she now shows a really speedy, fuck factory attitude. experience made the worst of the service to this girl. for me, her hanging out with conny all the time has even ruined her more. imho.

except for her beauty, a complete waste of money, time and energy. i really feel guilty with kid icarus for suggesting he might give her a try.

30 min. 60eu.

diana.

from romania, somewhere near moldovia. short blonde hair, nice body. walks around with a friend that has the same haircut. also cute.

worked in globe and many other clubs. changes often. been here 3 weeks. something clicked with the girl and we actually had a good time. not a memorable session but fine.

60euro.

overall, i find the lineup to be very good. i was scared the summer lineup could be very thin but it wasn't.

had some good sessions and some bad ones but enjoyed them all. the mood was great thanks to the isg hardcore group.

a great two day trip, as usual.

kimino

Angus Magee

07-28-12, 14:28

I arrived on this hottest day of the year so far at about 18:45 running directly into Kimino and Charlie 123 and arranged to meet up on the roof top patio as soon as I had showered. I also hoped to see RB who was due to arrive at around the same time. RB appeared, I had a coffee in the lounge, a quick scan of the talent and then headed to the top to see the lads. Along the way Macca 74 showed up and we spent the next hour or so talking about life, liberty and the pursuit of pussy.

C & K left in pursuit of better outside food. Macca & RB started into European economic issues and this send me off in search of the real reason I had come to Artemis on this hot July evening. A couple of months back I had one of my year's best session and was hoping for a rematch with thee lovely Nicole from Czech. It has been a confusing search due to the several negative report of a Nicole from Hungary and the somewhat embarrassing fact that despite having session-ed with Nicole and having enjoyed it immensely, I was more than a little uncertain as to what she looked like. I had the vague outline in my head but I was far from certain.

My search proved fruitless though I did manage to spot both Nina and Marketa, friends of Nicole and thus a good sign. I also managed to run into Nebula who was in attendance and making time with his regular girl, they are practically an Artemis item it seems. Finally I went to the desk and asked there about Nicole, Success, I was told that she was on the floor this evening so it was just a matter of finding her without, unless all else failed, resorting to asking her friends. Somehow asking one girl of the where about of another strikes me as bad form, especially a girl with whom you have session-ed-but not in a good long while.

To make a long story short, I finally found Nicole at the top of the stairs (she had in fact changed her hair style) and promptly whisked her away to a room for a very enjoyable session which equaled, if not surpassing, my memory of out first session, In my opinion this girl is one of the best currently working at Artemis-up for whatever you can dream up and pay for, yet with the sweet disposition of a high school sweetheart. She strikes me as sort of the porn star next door type.

Over all I would place the talent level available on this late July mid week day as good to very good, at least in the optic department. That is there were plenty of girls, a good number who I found appealing to look at. The down side would be, as the male numbers seemed seriously low there was a certain aggressiveness to many of the approaches. I was at first constantly approached by duos several of whom got quite nasty when I continued to say no to the approach.

Notably different was Kitty, a young (a believable 19) Berlin girl, new to Artemis whose approach was almost pathetically unprofessional, yet somehow intriguing. While I would not say that her session would be top notch, I am almost certain that it would not be ice cold and calculated. One for the 'to do' list if I get back there before she gets too much experience.

The remainder of my evening was spent chatting with a few girls, C & K and deciding in the end to leave well enough alone and leaving before I made an unwise decision at around 02:00 for a cool night ride home on the bike. Over all a good evening, leaving for next time a few possibilities, hopefully some time in the later half of August.

Granthree

07-28-12, 15:48

On arrival at Artemis I persuaded the girl to let me in for 40e.

Deducting the 30e this means I got into Artemis for 10e.Cool story bro.

How did you persuade the girl to let you in for half the price? Sounds weird. Taxi chauffeur AND old-timer?

ZimmerBaby

07-29-12, 00:27

http://www.hauptstadtpuff.de/

Is this the same girl Dr. Kimino?

Kimino

07-29-12, 11:04

http://www.hauptstadtpuff.de/

Is this the same girl Dr. Kimino?Really don't think so, this one has no tits. I'm not a boobs fan but I think the Anya at Art had much more than that.

Ciao!

Kimino

Delbhoy

07-29-12, 16:06

Hey guys,

I'm due in berlin round mid August and as a first time going to artemis I was wondering if any of you guys would be around the club at that time say dates 15th till 18th.

Thanks guys

Delbhoy

Buck Rogers

07-29-12, 22:32

Hi guys,

Back to Artemis after a long absence, Thursday from about 3 to 9 pm, entrance still 80 eur.

I approached Nina (Czech Republic, black long hair, about 30, very fit) at the bar downstairs and we had a one hour session. Nice time, good talking to her, great blowjob. 120 eur.

At the kino downstairs I let myself be approached by Miu, a young (19 she says and I think it is) girl from Hamburg, half German and half Turkish. She had pink / purple hair, easy to spot. Her BJ was not the best technically but she had a freshness I hadn't found in a while. She kind of make me feel very young again for a moment. Very nice to talk to. One hour here as well and cim. 170 eur.

There was a very good girls / men ratio that I really like and that adds to the atmosphere

I will back in September.

Buck

Lookoflove7

08-01-12, 17:36

Friday 27th July.

Nina from Republic Czech, famous girl, been here for a while, I have noticed her many time but try her. This tour was the good one. Brunette, great body, slim, sexy, small size, small tits, nice face, cream all other her body, smelling good and pro active (that's make the difference). Nice blowjob in Kino then in the room, sex machine and cum in mouth. Very nice blowjob, she sucked me until I gave her every sperm I had. New nickname: turbo sex machine.

Nina again, very long cum in her mouth, I felt it and she get all of it.

XXX girl (?) from Poland, blond, MILF, very nice body, slim, small tits, perfect legs, sexy underwear, smiling and joking with her friends. Will not repeat.

Satursday 28th July.

Nina twice, in kino then finished in room. Chocolate cream. Fuck like a turbo. Nice skin.

Very active girl, no holidays, not going back home.

Hannah, Polish girl, I have met her in March. Now she got new big boobs ). Very nice and well done. Pretty girl, slim, brunette with sort haircut. Came on her breast. Was it extra? Didn't mind and pay her as it was. Dirty word. Nice skin. Nice cock. Sensual body contact to begin. Professional. Lot of cum (really?). Sensitive tits. Very good session and will return.

Monday.

Late plane to go home.

Artemis or Royal?

Artemis with no doubt. I was afraid that there was no girl. But no, there were some good girls to fuck on a Monday 12 o'clock!

Nina of course who bit my ass as I was just arriving but she was starting her day (breakfast) so we didn't sessionned even thought I would love to).

So I met first Ella, famous Russian girl from Artemis. I have been with her on my first visit to Artemis. I knew she was providing good service. And I was in a hurry for the first fuck of day. So it was for her.

After a little break with sauna and sunbath, I turn around Nina many time but didn't had the hard enough to go with her. (and when I did (?) , she was going to kino with an other guy (so I went with her friend Marketa from Tcheki too, blond, already sessionned with her, very kind, good girl very nice looking, slim and incredible body, no fat at all! She is a good doctor for me)

Over all, many girls but I am still disappointed about the quality of girls (2/3 are bellow my expectation in term of good looking). Compared to my last visit in last March, I have noticed some new girls but nothing exceptional this is why for this trip, I went with already known girls.

And no sign of my favorite one, Sheenya. Whatever, it would be for the next time)

NB : I can't wait they finish the new wings with outside swimming pool and rooms. Can be funny)