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The Domine
06-25-08, 15:15
Hi to you all guys!
All my greetings for the forum! It is really great!
My dears I'd like to have much more informations about artemis and fkk in general considering I'm never been in those places but soon I'll be in berlin and I'd like to have this new experience; here are some questions for you:
1)a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
2)Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
3)I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
Thanks a lot to you all and exuse me for my bad english!
Bronze Hornet
06-27-08, 15:48
Hi to you all guys!
All my greetings for the forum! It is really great!
My dears I'd like to have much more informations about artemis and fkk in general considering I'm never been in those places but soon I'll be in berlin and I'd like to have this new experience; here are some questions for you:
1)a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
2)Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
3)I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
Thanks a lot to you all and exuse me for my bad english!Domine,
I am primarily active on the USA board and if this post were there you would be the prolific recipient of the infamous "RTFF" from several fellow mongers and rightly so as this information is profusely plastered throughout this section of this forum.
However, I have just recently visited Artemis for my first European foray and will help out a bit.
1) a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
BH's reply: You have the option of a robe or a towel. Most wear a towel.
2) Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
BH's reply: This query is probably why no one else has answered you. The primary interest in paying the 70€ fee is to see, meet and imbide in women. More than likely, homosexuals on the hunt for new meet will not find this a rich target area. Also, in my opinion, If you go there worrying about gays, maybe you should stay at your hotel and order outcall. I say this from a logical standpoint as it is the only guaranteed way for you to control your environment. But, there is no guarantee that she would not be gay unless you used a generic term to cover "homosexuals" only. My advice, go to Artemis and focus on the incredible lovelies there and put your prejudices aside and imbide in what YOU are there for and worry not of others.
3) I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
BH's reply: You will not be solicited to purchase a drink but you will be solicited to have a min 60€ date with one of the ladies. If you like, say yes. Now if you do not want to spend time with the solicitor, POLITELY turn her down. If you are rude, the word will get around and you will be the solicitor to no avail or defiitely to lessor quality.
BH's comment: Now, set aside 1 to 2 hours and review this forum. I did and I hit the road running on my first day at Artemis.
Also as a matter of courtesy, if you do go, post your experience here for those in the future to use to prepare for their visit.
Have fun and remember to contribute.
BH
Domine,
I am primarily active on the USA board and if this post were there you would be the prolific recipient of the infamous "RTFF" from several fellow mongers and rightly so as this information is profusely plastered throughout this section of this forum.
However, I have just recently visited Artemis for my first European foray and will help out a bit.
1) a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
BH's reply: You have the option of a robe or a towel. Most wear a towel.
2) Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
BH's reply: This query is probably why no one else has answered you. The primary interest in paying the 70€ fee is to see, meet and imbide in women. More than likely, homosexuals on the hunt for new meet will not find this a rich target area. Also, in my opinion, If you go there worrying about gays, maybe you should stay at your hotel and order outcall. I say this from a logical standpoint as it is the only guaranteed way for you to control your environment. But, there is no guarantee that she would not be gay unless you used a generic term to cover "homosexuals" only. My advice, go to Artemis and focus on the incredible lovelies there and put your prejudices aside and imbide in what YOU are there for and worry not of others.
3) I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
BH's reply: You will not be solicited to purchase a drink but you will be solicited to have a min 60€ date with one of the ladies. If you like, say yes. Now if you do not want to spend time with the solicitor, POLITELY turn her down. If you are rude, the word will get around and you will be the solicitor to no avail or defiitely to lessor quality.
BH's comment: Now, set aside 1 to 2 hours and review this forum. I did and I hit the road running on my first day at Artemis.
Also as a matter of courtesy, if you do go, post your experience here for those in the future to use to prepare for their visit.
Have fun and remember to contribute.
BHI could not agree more. As a matter of fact Artemis is a club where if you even notice the men then you are not focused on the task at hand, which is of course to enjoy the company of some of the most beautiful women you can find. It's like a nightclub except this time you get to have sex with almost any woman you want and then do it again and again. Wish I had pictures of the 15 women I've had on my two trips. Cannot wait for the third, which I'm trying to line up this summer.
Exoticspirit
07-05-08, 22:05
I noticed that on their website, Artemis has dinner from about 6 pm to 2 am. I assume this is buffet style. Do they keep this food relatively hot throughout the hours? Reason why I ask is that I would like to nibble here and there throughout my stay. If I eat one large meal at dinnertime, I just don't see how I'm going to be in any shape to do more girls after that without barfing all over them.
I noticed that on their website, Artemis has dinner from about 6 pm to 2 am. I assume this is buffet style. Do they keep this food relatively hot throughout the hours? Reason why I ask is that I would like to nibble here and there throughout my stay. If I eat one large meal at dinnertime, I just don't see how I'm going to be in any shape to do more girls after that without barfing all over them.There is always hot food in the dining area the entire time between 6PM and around 1:30 am. Also during the summer, on Wednesdays and Sundays, they do a bbq grill instead - better than the usual stuff rest of the week.
I noticed that on their website, Artemis has dinner from about 6 pm to 2 am. I assume this is buffet style. Do they keep this food relatively hot throughout the hours? Reason why I ask is that I would like to nibble here and there throughout my stay. If I eat one large meal at dinnertime, I just don't see how I'm going to be in any shape to do more girls after that without barfing all over them.Hi,
I went to Artemis 2 weeks ago. The food is served at 6pm and is a hot meal. in my opinion the meal is of very good quality. When the main course finishes, they then replace with hot snacks (pizza slices, roast chicken, etc) throughout the whole evening. All the food is kept hot. you won't be dissappointed. Food finishing time is 1pm to 2pm approx. Bon appetite!
I went with a german girl from Hamburg calling herself Jane (even though in German it's Yana). she was good in bed and nice to talk to. perfect model-like slender body and very pretty face. recommend!
Hi Guys,
I will be staying near Kurfürstendamm boulevard in hotel Sofytel Berlin. What are the clubs/brothels/kinos in walking distance from here.
Any info is appreciated.
Basketcase
07-07-08, 21:22
There is always hot food in the dining area the entire time between 6PM and around 1:30 am. Also during the summer, on Wednesdays and Sundays, they do a bbq grill instead - better than the usual stuff rest of the week.
Jaysleef,
Good to know that food is catered for from 18:00 to 01:30. Saves me thinking of ordering in takeways to the club if I get the munchies.
the fact there is a BBQ on Sundays means there is an incentive for me to be at Artemis to enjoy it on Sunday along with pensioners and taxi drivers as they receive discounted entritt on Sundays if I recall correctly.
Thanks for the advice,
Londonbasketcase
Hey hey! Wiild is finally coming to Berlin, I will follow the advice and mostly focus on Artemis for one or two late afternoon/evening sessions.
As I especially like huge titted girls, I am gladly taking advice on when such a girl might work at Artemis, or if anyone knows of a such a girl in any other club/FKK/working as escort or freelancer? Enhanced/Silicone preferred.
In my imagination Germany would be a good place to find this type of girl but my searches has not been so fruitful so far. I guess I might find some enhanced girls at Artemis, but if someone has any good specific lead please let me know.
Big (huge) thanks! :-)
Oscar
Warsteiner
07-09-08, 19:04
Hey hey! Wiild is finally coming to Berlin, I will follow the advice and mostly focus on Artemis for one or two late afternoon/evening sessions.
As I especially like huge titted girls, I am gladly taking advice on when such a girl might work at Artemis, or if anyone knows of a such a girl in any other club/FKK/working as escort or freelancer? Enhanced/Silicone preferred.
In my imagination Germany would be a good place to find this type of girl but my searches has not been so fruitful so far. I guess I might find some enhanced girls at Artemis, but if someone has any good specific lead please let me know.
Big (huge) thanks! :-)
Oscar
Hi Oscar,
I have only visited Artemis once in March but if you are in to silicon then this is the place for you. The Monday that I was at the club there were about 25/30 women and at least 50% if not more had silicon implants so this should be the place for you.
Good luck
Hey hey! Wiild is finally coming to Berlin, I will follow the advice and mostly focus on Artemis for one or two late afternoon/evening sessions.
As I especially like huge titted girls, I am gladly taking advice on when such a girl might work at Artemis, or if anyone knows of a such a girl in any other club/FKK/working as escort or freelancer? Enhanced/Silicone preferred.
In my imagination Germany would be a good place to find this type of girl but my searches has not been so fruitful so far. I guess I might find some enhanced girls at Artemis, but if someone has any good specific lead please let me know.
Big (huge) thanks! :-)
OscarYou will not be disappointed, most are enhanced just make sure you scope out the place first and not target anything for at least 30 minutes once you get there. I made the mistake of hitting (fucking) something right off when I got in. I couldn't help it this place is like no other place I have ever been to. Anyway I soon found myself in MAN paradise and regretted the fact that I was on budget for this last trip. There are porn star quality there and MILF brand if you want that. Its just crazy. Since I am American and cursed by the fact that the US is so uptight on sex, these places need to be everywhere in the western world so that war wouldn't even cross anyone's mind. Oh make sure you make a day of it since you pretty much can. Next time I go I will (A) workout first, (B) swim for a while and enjoy the (C) saunas, then I will pick out the best I can find and then start from (A) again till I nail five an have to be carried out. My record so far is four in five hours but it was my first time and I was suckered into CIM routine twice which cost me an extra 100E which would have been number five. Live and Learn. Peace my Bro's. And enjoy every lady as if its you last piece on earth.
Thanks Warsteiner, Thanks Chame. I think I will like Artemis! :-)
I prefer my girls totally cleanshaven, with big silicone boobs, and long sexy fingernails, nice makup....porn star type as Chame called it!
looking foward to my trip!
Cookiemonster
07-11-08, 09:11
LBC have you booked your hotel yet?
I got some tips for hotels for Artemis/Berlin stays. I've taken the trip from Sweden to Berin/Artemis twice in the last 12 months. And I’m going for a third time next weekend.
Since you'll be arriving at Scönefeld Flughafen my advice would be to get a 72h Belin Welcome Card at the newspaper stand for 21 €. Then your all set with transportation to and from the airport, S/U-bahn and bus for the weekend. Then take the Airport Expresstrain from Schönfeld. As an example Schönefeld - Zoologischer Garten takes like 45 min.
My first stay was at Ku'damm 101. It’s a nice hotel located on the “wrong end” (or right if Artemis is your focus) of Kurfurstendamm for shopping. The hotel tries to market itself as a design hotel, but falls a bit short. It's design, but in a minimalistic IKEA sort of way. Nothing wrong with that, but not high end. I stayed there in early dec 2007. At the time (offseason) I got a good deal through Expedia. I'd go there again if I got a good deal. 65 €/night is decent but not a great deal.
During my last stay I booked Scandotel Castor (in February, so again offseason). This was more in the center near KaDeWe. At the time I got a dirtcheap deal through hotelconnect.co.uk: Stay 2 nights pay for 1 for 70 €. Again you won't see does prices during highseason. But it might be worth having a look at hotelconnect.co.uk. They have a promocode for bookings made before 31 July that shaves off £10. Promocode “summer”. They sometimes have a few good special offers IF you stay during certain weekdays. If you are willing to spend a bit more they had Hotel Domicil for your dates (22-25 aug) for 199 € (non refundable with the promocode).
A Good location and I’d be considering that one if you’re willing to spend that amount of money on the hotel.
I'm acctually heading down to Berlin next weekend with some friends and family, but I should be able to sneak off once to Artemis. We'll be staying in the center at the Marriott Potsdamer Platz. It was 3 nights, pay for 2, Air Berlin promo. That comes down to 298 Euro for 3 nights weekend stay, but that offer expires July 31.
In future visits to Artemis/Berlin I'll try mainly to focus on something really close to an S-bahn station that is connected to Westkreuts S-Bahn station.
You'll even have the S-bahn running during Artemis closing time at 5 am. That way you'll have good communications from Artemis until sunrise and also during the day for touristy things.
I was close to booking Hotel Cityblick before but it was booked. It's close to S-Bahn station Charlottenburg. 43 Euro for a singel room seems like a good deal. I hope some of you grab this hotel, so you can tell me if it's a good deal. It might be too basic for you highrollers out there.
http://www.hotel-cityblick.de/ENGLISH/hotel_berlin_guenstig.htm
To continue on the basic theme. The Hotel Messe am Funkturm you found up seems cheap. The hotels own website seems even cheaper. It might be worth it to get a quote from them directly. http://www.hotel-funkturm-messe.de/preise.html
Also for all hotels above, do a quick crosscheck with hotels.de in hunt for the best deal and read some reviews from previous guests. Tripadvisor also has good previous guest reviews.
Now that's enough amateur travelagent talk for now. Here's a preview of Artemis.
The link that's been posted here before. Bravotv had a visit at Artemis, and it might give you a little sneak peak.
http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html
I believe it was Roosevelt that responded when Eleanor and he were at a chicken farm and she said to him "see honey he can do it several times a night" and he replied "yep, and if I had as many women as he has hens I'd do all of them also".
BHActually, that tale is about Calvin Coolidge. He and his wife were being taken separately through a chicken farm. A guide told Mrs. C. that the prize rooster mated several times a day. She said "Tell that to the president." When the pres, was told, he asked "With the same hen?" The guide said no, to which the president replied "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."
It is well known that Roosevelt and his wife were no longer intimate by the time he was president, because of her knowledge of his extramarital relationship with Lucy Mercer.
Gentlemen,
Some of ours are preparing for going for the first/second/third...time to Artemis. I must tell you that I'am surprised that the pictures of the ladies there doesn't change for a while. I make you a proposal: let's rate de girls (unfortunatelly only 17 from the 70 as it is write on site http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php) Perhaps the next time whent we get there we'll remember not necesarly the name of the girl, but the picture from the site. That can help.
Thanks
Gentlemen,
Some of ours are preparing for going for the first/second/third...time to Artemis. I must tell you that I'am surprised that the pictures of the ladies there doesn't change for a while. I make you a proposal: let's rate de girls (unfortunatelly only 17 from the 70 as it is write on site http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php) Perhaps the next time whent we get there we'll remember not necesarly the name of the girl, but the picture from the site. That can help.
ThanksI'm about to visit Artemis very soon and the images of the girls on their web site surprise me. Most people who've been to Artemis say that there are so many blondes and Eastern Europan girls there. Why then are there mostly girls of color (black/latin etc) on ther web site? Is there perhaps a high demand for girls of color in Berlin? Personally I prefer white Eastern European girls, blondes or brunettes don't matter, so I hope there'll be plenty of them there when I arrive.
Now that's enough amateur travelagent talk for now. Here's a preview of Artemis.
The link that's been posted here before. Bravotv had a visit at Artemis, and it might give you a little sneak peak.
http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.htmlThe short blonde in the video was there yesterday. Her name is Martina and she's Hungarian(or that what she told me). A decent option.
I visited Artemis twice this week as part of my German tour. Tuesday was something of a disappointment with girl number two being quite bad and ruining my mood. A blonde with quite big boobs and unfortunately little to much weight who I forgot to ask for her name. She wouldn't let me do my thing and wanted to offer other things instead. It would have been easy money for her I suppose but when she was so keen on more she ruined it for me. She definitely recognized me on my return trip on the Friday but avoided me. Lesson learned is to never yield to pressure because she found me in the lower Kino and really tried to get me into a room. She didn't look that bad there but I should have known better than to go with someone I hadn't already checked out.
Friday was much better and I enjoyed that visit thoroughly. I think that since there were more men on that night the girls were more relaxed because there would be more and easier business for them. On Tuesday quite a few were a bit aggressive IMO.
DkFatBastard
07-13-08, 07:37
Hi Kvaser
Don't worry, there will be plenty of blondes and east european girls. I think many of the girls in the club doesn't wan't their picture on the website for obvious reasons.
I'm about to visit Artemis very soon and the images of the girls on their web site surprise me. Most people who've been to Artemis say that there are so many blondes and Eastern Europan girls there. Why then are there mostly girls of color (black/latin etc) on ther web site? Is there perhaps a high demand for girls of color in Berlin? Personally I prefer white Eastern European girls, blondes or brunettes don't matter, so I hope there'll be plenty of them there when I arrive.
Dick Travel
07-13-08, 13:19
Thanks for the link cookiemonster.
I think I must pay Berlin and Artemis a visit.
As I now note has been commented on previoulsy in this forum, the short blonde is Martina, Hungarian. I enjoyed the pleasure of her company a year or two ago in World. Thoroughly recommended.
DT
Bronze Hornet
07-13-08, 22:14
Actually, that tale is about Calvin Coolidge. He and his wife were being taken separately through a chicken farm. A guide told Mrs. C. that the prize rooster mated several times a day. She said "Tell that to the president." When the pres, was told, he asked "With the same hen?" The guide said no, to which the president replied "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."
It is well known that Roosevelt and his wife were no longer intimate by the time he was president, because of her knowledge of his extramarital relationship with Lucy Mercer.I humbly stand corrected and appreciate your clarification and sharing of your historical knowledge.
I was trying to cleverly state (but not doing a historically correct job, though) that the law of diminishing returns is not in effect for me when intimacy is allowed with a bevy of beautiful, sexy and completely naked women in one place at the same time.
BH
Stiffoak 571
07-16-08, 09:40
Thought it could not get better than my trip to Thailand at Easter. But last week it did. I found Artemis!
Had 3 nights in Berlin and first day was struggling to find any action. So in the evening headed onto the S Bahn. Had odd walk from station. Seems like potential muggers alley with guys obviously having money in pockets going down to the club.
Paid my 70 got changed then walked in. My mouth hung open. Kept saying "there's a pussy. She's gorgeous. Wow those tits". Total sensory overload. Went into cinema found a guy getting a BJ went downstairs to look around found the other cinema more action!
Needed a drink. Never got to the bar. 2 Bulgarian girls grabbed me by the balls (literally) started rubbing my dick on the staircase while negotiating. I agreed to having both. One very slim blond Connie I think and her partner darker skin with long curly hair. Checked that it was standard 60 each then upstairs. The session was good I fucked/sucked/was sucked/fingered. The usual menu on both. No real limits except one didn't want fingers inside.
After the session they then wanted champagne "we spend more time with you" but that was never going to happen when there was sooo much choice elsewhere.
Had a rest and a drink. Had a swim and sat observing in main lounge. Watching the behaviour. The girls who just sat and the girls who wandered looking for "victims" and the ones who hung around the stairs/door area. I estimated 40 girls of which over 75% were really fit and for me in the 8/9 level (some werent. There was one very red haired lady much older who kept asking and asking)
Sat in cinema and had numerous requests before a Russian girl (crap with names keep forgetting) sat down and within seconds I was ready for action. She kissed straight away and sucked on me while I fingered her and then she said she wanted me to lick her that was it! Off to the room for a great session- especially the 69. Really enjoyable time. Wish I could remember her name.
Had to go. Running out of money with unknown cab fare to pay (it was 20 back to Radisson) and energy levels falling. What a night. Why can't we have one in London?
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Stiffoak 571
07-16-08, 10:11
Had to go back - Saturday night - lot more men - same (possibly fewer difficult to tell with more activity) number of girls.
Didnt want to peak too early - wanted to take things slow - was eventually approached by a Moldovan brunette who promised the earth all for 100 - what I got was very little - even the fingering was with a condom on! never had that before - she got upset that I didnt want to cum with her but wanted to save something - learnt from her that extras are not worth it when you can have so much for 60 anyway
Was found in the cinema by a German girl bit older perhaps but with interesting piercings in various intimate places and a few tatoos- upstairs again and good time and first finish of the evening
So after dark larger females time for slim blond and found another German girl standing by the door quite soon after I went back down - very slim small boobs - bit clinical in the room though she did allow/encourage full acess to her rather wet pussy which was a bonus.
Time for rest - so swim then food which was better than expected - finally caught again in the downstairs cinema by pretty Ukranian girl - she was very keen to make sure that I got what I wanted so kissing and licking were on the menu and the milked another cum out of me in a very senuous - probably best girl of the night.
Thought I had one more left in me (thank heavens for the Kamagra I bought in Thailand!) Found another small blond type (might have been Bulgarian - lost all sense of names places by bthat stage) standing near the door - by now the problem was space - big queue for upstairs and no rooms downstairs so we ended up on one of the round beds in the bar area with the curtains pulled round - didnt mind the noise etc but it does get very hot inside the tent - still good BJ and very tight pussy - good finish.
So that was Artemis - left after nearly 5 hours several hundred euros poorer but with an almighty grin and and a very well used dick - great place you have to go there if you have any interest in mongering!
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Here are my first non organized observations: In short: Artemis is OK for Europe, but not worldclass, as it is too boring and business like.
To find the place: Easy: previous reports are accurate, as is google maps:
Take S-bahn from any big station like, Hauptbanhof, Zoo, or Fredrichstrasse to Westkreuz station.
Artemis is a big hotel type building with a big sign on top, you will not miss it.
I arrrived at 18.00 Monday afternoon: Plenty of nice Mercedes' and BMW's in the parking lot, mostly local business people cheating on their wifes I guess? :-)
Everything very well organized and clean as you would expect, maybe a little bit too organized and clean for my liking, after all people are here to have fun!?!
Food, softdrinks, coffe is included in euro70 entrance fee. If you want beer you need to buy euro10 tokens in the entrance. If the beer was cheaper/easier to buy and tasted better then I think Artemis would be a more fun place!
Food is OK if you really are hungry and didn't have time to eat before but it is not tasty and you have to sit in a boring room eating by yourself. For a tourist I recommend that you go out eating before hitting Artemis: drink some GOOD local beer and eat some GOOD food in a nice place beforehand.
Most of the girls are sitting in the smoking room (like at most bordellos around the world, smoking seems to be one of the biggest hobbies for the girls) which is the upper bar and the only bar that serves alcohol.
The action on this Monday night was slightly slow, girls approached now and then, but they were more business-like when I compare to comparable places in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Spain etc
When you didn't want to agree to sex right away they simply walked away. On the night I was there I was approached by Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Bulgarian, Spanish and German girls: more than half of the girls are eastern european.
Many wanted to offer to have sex with two girls at the same time. this to me is a clear sign of business mindness from girls.
Appearance of girls: General quality of girls looks were good, maybe an average 7, the Russians/Ukranians looked best, some platinum blond ones with big boobs and shaved pussies, I didn't go with any of them as they were very business-minded, you might even say unfriendly if you are not used to eastern european/russian bordello girls.
Shaved: Less than I thought were totally shaved: I had hoped that 60-90% would have completely shaved pussies, but I guess it was more like 40%.
Silicone: Less than I thought: maybe 25% were visably enhanced by silicone, only 2-3 girls had big fake DD boobs or larger.
Nudeness: Not all girls were nude all the times: they were semi-nude, sometimes showing a lot sometimes covered up in panties or bra etc. But theyr were sexy dressed which was nice.
I'll report more on my personal encounters later, but my verdict in short: Artemis is OK. A great bordello experience if you just want to have sex with a sexy profesional girl in a clean and safe environment.
But it is too boring to be compared to all the great places in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia etc where you can have lot of fun and party with fun girls.
Thanks for the report Wiild,
Nudeness: Not all girls were nude all the times: they were semi-nude, sometimes showing a lot sometimes covered up in panties or bra etc. But theyr were sexy dressed which was nice.This is also one of the things I personally don't like about Artemis. Level of nudity is way to low to be called FKK.
Sorry to hear you didn't find enough completely shaved girls with enhanced DD+ breasts. :)
Don't know which club to recommend if Artemis failed on this requirement, maybe Oase but don't expect too many girls with silicone.
Regarding the expensive alcohol I think the NRW clubs, like Goldentime or PHG, would suit you better. Free beer is included in the entrance here.
Not so expensive alcohol can be found at FKK World if you still want the true FKK experience. But don't expect many girls with silicone implants at World.
Also keep in mind that normally Monday is the slowest day of the week and not the best day to do clubs. There is a reason they admit Taxi drivers for 35€ this day. :)
Maybe FKK clubs is just not your cup of tea but I suggest you evaluate the concept a few more times. Good luck!
Buck Rogers
07-25-08, 19:42
Appearance of girls: General quality of girls looks were good, maybe an average 7, the Russians/Ukranians looked best, some platinum blond ones with big boobs and shaved pussies, I didn't go with any of them as they were very business-minded, you might even say unfriendly if you are not used to eastern european/russian bordello girls.
Well, there are indeed at Artemis several girls that ask to you to go to the room beetween 5 to 40 seconds after they approach you o you approach them and I never go to the room with any of them. This is more frequent if you are from another country (like me) since they think you are 99% a one time customer.
But there are nicer girls and they become nicer if you are somewhat a regular customer and then they don’t look at the watch that much (like you do 80 minutes and you pay 60+60 eur).
I remember once I was particularly horny, I saw one of my favourite girls there and I wanted to go right away to the room but she started talking a lot about some of her stuff and I basically was trying not to stare too much at her boobs and I just wanted to say “Stop with the chat, I want to have sex!” but since I’m a gentleman (lol) I waited about half an hour for an opening and then I said “can we go upstairs?”
I think above all on a Monday, where there are less customers and they can’t just go getting cash from one to another, maybe the girls should focuse more in entertaining the man and level down the business like mode.
Down with fake tits! :-)
Severin Carl
07-26-08, 23:15
I went to Berlin last week an spent one evening in A. Not the first, I came already twice, but I think this will have been my last one. I read a lot of enthusiastic reports, but.. When I arrived I got the feeling to enter a clinic. Everything is very clean, and very cold. And when you go to the bar you definitly understand: This is a great machine, pure capitalism, free enterprise, what ever you want. But not fun. Time is money, so the workers here don't waste 5 or 40 seconds before they ask you to go upstairs but 2 or 3. At most. Sex is a part of industrial production, organized by Henry Ford. And when you say No, because you just arrived, you want to have look first or something as strange as a drink, don't be surprised when the lady, usually a silicon armed imitation of a retired porn queen from Poland, shows her anger. She is not her to make love but to make money. So she doenst want to waste her time in silly conversations, OK? And english, german or french are so difficult languages. On the other hand I wondered how much time the girls spent smoking and chatting and above all avoiding to contact some possible client.
The first time I met a girl from CR. Beautyful eyes, small breasts, completely shaven. I was so excited that I came before I started. I filled her mouth and than, a little ashamed, I filled her pocket. The second time: "don't touch my hair, don't touch my breasts, no BJ because of my tooth-ake. " and so on. The third time: average sex with an average girl from. Don't remember. Russia? The first time a lot of 7s, some 8s, two or three 9s. The last time: A lot of 5s, some 6s, a few 7s. Are there any girls left in eastern Europe?
Bye, Artemis. Berlin is a big city with better places. I hope.
Hi All,
Going to Berlin for two nights at the end of August and am thinking about spending a night at La Folie but not have read much about it.
Is it still as good as it was a few years back?
Thanks for any advice
Hi All,
Going to Berlin for two nights at the end of August and am thinking about spending a night at La Folie but not have read much about it.
Is it still as good as it was a few years back?
Thanks for any adviceHow many years ago did you visit La Folie?
After the opening of Artemis a few years ago La Folie is not up to much I'm afraid. If you are looking for a large club with a large selection of girls, go to Artemis.
If you are looking for a small club with a small selection of girls, go to La Folie.
Good luck!
How many years ago did you visit La Folie?
After the opening of Artemis a few years ago La Folie is not up to much I'm afraid. If you are looking for a large club with a large selection of girls, go to Artemis.
If you are looking for a small club with a small selection of girls, go to La Folie.
Good luck!
The Last time I was there was about 4 years ago. I believe it was just around the time Artemas opened. I had a great time at both.
I enjoyed Artemis but it is like comparing Bernds to Oase, The experience is different.
Thanks
Angus Magee
07-27-08, 16:36
Hi All,
Going to Berlin for two nights at the end of August and am thinking about spending a night at La Folie but not have read much about it.
Is it still as good as it was a few years back?
Thanks for any advice
I have not been to Artimis so I can not really compare but I was quite disappointed with La Folie the last two times I went, sometime last autumn. Both visits I end up leaving without taking a girl to the back rooms.
The selection was pretty dismal and I found the girls were either beautiful (8-9) but distant or reasonable (6-7) and all over me to buy them a picolo as soon as I sat down. Now I understand that they are working and this is part of how it works, but I like to sit and maybe talk a while before being hit up for a bottle.
When I was there 4-5 years ago there were a huge variety of ladies and I managed to find some very sweet part timers who I did not mind spending a bit of cash on and I was hugely rewarded ib the back room.
Personally, I would give La Folie a miss.
Exoticspirit
07-28-08, 21:49
I'm going to Berlin in mid August for three nights mid week. I'm going to divide it up evenly among Artemis (for my last night which will be a Thursday) and spend the first two days/evenings and try out two smaller places. One will be Kamilla Dee and the other is an even smaller place called Mona. There's only one report I saw on the Berlin thread on Mona and it was not bad. If anybody else been there, I would like to know since the price is probably right and very close to my hotel. The ladies on their website as shown in the Berlin thread don't look too bad either.
If both Mona and Kamilla Dee are only so-so, then at least I keep the last evening for the biggest venue which is Artemis.- unless you guys feel that for some reason, I should be allocating all my nights at Artemis.
Basketcase
08-05-08, 02:53
If both Mona and Kamilla Dee are only so-so, then at least I keep the last evening for the biggest venue which is Artemis.- unless you guys feel that for some reason, I should be allocating all my nights at Artemis.
Hi Exoticspirt,
If FKK Artemis is anything like what I have experienced in NRW sauna clubs and Hessen FKKs then you may feel short changed having spent all your earlier fresh loads in Mona and Kamilla Dee (both darlings I imagine).
The reports below suggest lower number of choice in some of the brothels which is expected. I have looked at the Kamilla Dee, La Folie, Mona websites and like what I see there but the ability to wander a FKK's facilities while making one's choice is something I like as the pressure is not there to pick straight away when there are no communal facilities to enjoy.
There are many a time when you come to a London brothel with say 12 girls in the room sitting looking at you waiting for you to make a choice. It can be one of the most scariest things in the world plucking up courage and going up to a girl and saying I pick you in front of them all.
I know that FKK Artemis may cost more so to take advantage you need to do more sessions to bring the fixed cost down so treat it as a day out.
I am in Berlin also in the latter part of August for 4 days. I know we miss each other so have a great time. You never know I may also pop my head into Kamilla Dee and La Folie to see what the score is in August.
My main concern is that in Hessen at least many girls are on holidays - with fewer messes on there is no incentive to be working in the Summer months. Europe is on holidays. I mean we are on holiday too.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Basketcase
08-05-08, 03:48
LBC have you booked your hotel yet?
I got some tips for hotels for Artemis/Berlin stays. I've taken the trip from Sweden to Berin/Artemis twice in the last 12 months. And I’m going for a third time next weekend.
Since you'll be arriving at Scönefeld Flughafen my advice would be to get a 72h Belin Welcome Card at the newspaper stand for 21 €. Then your all set with transportation to and from the airport, S/U-bahn and bus for the weekend. Then take the Airport Expresstrain from Schönfeld. As an example Schönefeld - Zoologischer Garten takes like 45 min.
In future visits to Artemis/Berlin I'll try mainly to focus on something really close to an S-bahn station that is connected to Westkreuts S-Bahn station.
You'll even have the S-bahn running during Artemis closing time at 5 am. That way you'll have good communications from Artemis until sunrise and also during the day for touristy things.
Bravotv had a visit at Artemis, and it might give you a little sneak peak.
http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html
Cookiemonster,
I thank you sincerely for your well written and thoughtful advice. I appreciate the effort taken in writing up your personal experiences. The tips you have given me and others that have read your post will provide assistance to the many that will come after us.
I can be a budget traveller if I need be so I am going to stay near Friedrichstrasse Bahnof which is one station East of the Hauptbanof. This allows me to be on the S9 or S75 that passes through Westkreuz bahnof for FKK Artemis.
Staying here also allows me to do my sightseeing as the purpose of this trip is actually to visit Berlin too as I have never been before. In saying that my trips to Frankfurt have been about FKK visits only and I have yet to actually wander the Main river or see the shops (well I have visited the porn shops in the Red light District as they were open well late at night).
Also with the Berlin welcome card at €21 seems reasonable for 72 hours especially if it covers the airport and all public transport options. I am visiting for 4 days from a Friday to a Monday so I expect my last day I need to buy an extra day's travel to get back to the schonefeld Flughafen.
Your tip that the S Bahns run pretty much 24 hours on a Friday and Saturday is a great help meaning my plan to actually stay in a hotel close to Westkreuz need not be the case. Provided I saty close to a S Bahn stop I can pretty much get to Artemis and back to my hotel provided I do not leave at theh ungodly hours of 01:00 when the s bahns probably stop for the night to say 04:00/05:00 when the first s bahns start running again in the morning.
The Bravo TV clip makes Artemis look like a pristine mansion inside. I am looking forward to visiting and seeing all the naked girls there and spending some quality time with them.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Regards
Londonbasketcase
My main concern is that in Hessen at least many girls are on holidays - with fewer messes on there is no incentive to be working in the Summer months. Europe is on holidays. I mean we are on holiday too.
Kind regards
LondonbasketcaseHi LBC.
I visited Artemis last week on two occasions, Thursday + Saturday, and there was about 30 girls there each night, perhaps a few more on Saturday night. It felt quite sufficient for me I think. There are probably more girls there in the fall and spring during all the fairs, but I never felt that there was a shortage of available girls, most of whom were quite attractive (mostly 8s with a few 6s-7s and a few 9s).
Basketcase
08-05-08, 21:17
Thank you Kvaser for the recent feedback on Artemis. These reports are the life blood of the constant punter.
Hi LBC
I visited Artemis last week on two occasions, Thursday + Saturday,
Good work Kvaser. I expect to be in Berlin for a Frietag, Sammtag, Sonnstag and Montag. I should be sightseeing as soon as I get into town but I bet I end up on the doorstep of Artemis at midday like the naughty lad that I am.
I get in fairly early into Berlin Schonefeld and taking the X7 or X171 u bahn into town I think to my hostel in Friedrichstrasse S Bahn area.
and there was about 30 girls there each night, perhaps a few more on Saturday night.
Hey 30 girls is a nice number. I was actually hoping it is more given that I heard that Artemis is a big club in size and also being in Berlin city itself. But as there are only 30 rooms having 30 girls on makes sense since each girl is not fighting for a room to entertain their clients like at Golden Time or Oase where you have girls queuing for a room as there are not enough rooms to go around the 70-80 girls working when the day and night shifts overlap.
It felt quite sufficient for me I think.
Yes, you are right. One only needs several good girls to make a visit extremely memorable that one yearns to return to Deutschland.
There are probably more girls there in the fall and spring during all the fairs, but I never felt that there was a shortage of available girls, most of whom were quite attractive (mostly 8s with a few 6s-7s and a few 9s).
Kvaser, thank you for your positive report. If they girl quotient is averaging 8 then I will be hard pushed to limit myself to 4 sessions a day. We shall see if the girl line up in August rocks my boat and hopefully the Summer holidays have not decimated the sex provider ranks.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Hi LBC.
I visited Artemis last week on two occasions, Thursday + Saturday, and there was about 30 girls there each night, perhaps a few more on Saturday night. It felt quite sufficient for me I think. There are probably more girls there in the fall and spring during all the fairs, but I never felt that there was a shortage of available girls, most of whom were quite attractive (mostly 8s with a few 6s-7s and a few 9s).I was at Artemis on Saturday as well and I think 30 seems low. I believe the count is probably closer to 50. But I do agree that the holiday season seems to have lowered the number of girls a bit but quality has not suffered.
In the past 3 months, there has been a large turnover of girls at Artemis, fortunately my top 3 are still working. Every time I go, (once every two weeks) there are a handful of new girls. I had a session with an absolutely beautiful Romanian (maybe 165cm, enhanced C cup, long dark straight hair). Session was good (light kissing, good BBBJ, DATY with FIV, and CFS). I would rate her service a 6 or 7, but worth it just based on her stunning looks. Face 9 or 10, body 9 (10 if breasts were real). Name is Demi and she told me she was working in Switzerland at the Globe. When I checked the Zurich forum, it seems as if the police raided the club and kicked out all the girls w/o any work permits. Based on Demi, I hope more of those girls make their way to Artemis.
One thing I wanted to pass on that I found interesting. I spoked to one of my ATF and she told me that the management holds meetings with the girls to lecture them about providing good service to the customers. One thing the manager stressed is the need for the girls to be up front with the customers about time spent in the room. When a session is about to approach 30 minutes, the girl is supposed to ask the customer if they would like to extend of end at 30 min. I noticed all the new girls I have taken into the room have been very up front about the time both before the session started and near the end of each 30 min. Gotta applaud the management for that.
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Exoticspirit
08-06-08, 04:39
Hi Exoticspirt,
The reports below suggest lower number of choice in some of the brothels which is expected. I have looked at the Kamilla Dee, La Folie, Mona websites and like what I see there but the ability to wander a FKK's facilities while making one's choice is something I like as the pressure is not there to pick straight away when there are no communal facilities to enjoy.
There are many a time when you come to a London brothel with say 12 girls in the room sitting looking at you waiting for you to make a choice. It can be one of the most scariest things in the world plucking up courage and going up to a girl and saying I pick you in front of them all.
Kind regards
LondonbasketcaseHi there again,
As you said, the girls on the Mona and KD websites look doable to me too and will be good enough for an outing. I don't need to choose from among 50 or 60 girls. It might even confuse me.
I think a nice mix of Artemis and other places will be a good overall experience of Berlin.
As for choosing from a group looking at you, already done that in Thailand and Costa Rica so it's nothing new.
I was at Artemis on Saturday as well and I think 30 seems low. I believe the count is probably closer to 50. But I do agree that the holiday season seems to have lowered the number of girls a bit but quality has not suffered.
In the past 3 months, there has been a large turnover of girls at Artemis, fortunately my top 3 are still working. Every time I go, (once every two weeks) there are a handful of new girls. I had a session with an absolutely beautiful Romanian (maybe 165cm, enhanced C cup, long dark straight hair). Session was good (light kissing, good BBBJ, DATY with FIV, and CFS). I would rate her service a 6 or 7, but worth it just based on her stunning looks. Face 9 or 10, body 9 (10 if breasts were real). Name is Demi and she told me she was working in Switzerland at the Globe. When I checked the Zurich forum, it seems as if the police raided the club and kicked out all the girls w/o any work permits. Based on Demi, I hope more of those girls make their way to Artemis.
One thing I wanted to pass on that I found interesting. I spoked to one of my ATF and she told me that the management holds meetings with the girls to lecture them about providing good service to the customers. One thing the manager stressed is the need for the girls to be up front with the customers about time spent in the room. When a session is about to approach 30 minutes, the girl is supposed to ask the customer if they would like to extend of end at 30 min. I noticed all the new girls I have taken into the room have been very up front about the time both before the session started and near the end of each 30 min. Gotta applaud the management for that.
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Did I see you there? I'm a Swede in my mid 30s (although all girls said I look younger), 179 cm (5'11''), fairly slim, short black hair, somewhat hairy chest. Maybe there was 50 girls there if you stayed late? I never stayed later than 10: 45 PM. My favourites were a fairly tall German brunette called Svenya and a Moldovan blond with curly hair whose name I don't remember, she was wonderful. All these platinum blonde Poles were really beautiful, but not much fun in the sack. A really short blond girl named Dominika was a disappointment. Totally passive. I like girls with fire, passion, and committment, but if you're into calm girls I guess she'd appeal to you.
Sexual Healing
08-06-08, 14:27
Hello,
I'm a new user and I would like to gather some report about La Folie.
Sorry for posting in the Artemis area, I wasn't able to open a new thread fr La Folie, maybe administrator could do it.
I already got all the information one could read in the La Folie website (fees and rates...) and it tease me.
I just would like to undestand if it can be good for me.
I know many of you go to the Artemis FKK, but I don't feel attraction to big places and all the facilities included. I just enjoy a small place where I can relax a while, have an encounter with a girl and then leave.
Besides, I don't like paying 70 euro just to get in, I rather give that money to girl, if know what I mean.
So, looking at the website La Folie it all sounds good: cheap fees to get in, alchoolic drink allowed at reasonable price and girl at affordable rates... so what else is missing?
Please note that I am not looking for top-models or porn-stars-like girls, just an average good looking female in an easy-going environment. Important to me that they are nice, don't rush me and don't push me for extras.
Thank you.
Hello,
I'm a new user and I would like to gather some report about La Folie.
Sorry for posting in the Artemis area, I wasn't able to open a new thread fr La Folie, maybe administrator could do it.
I already got all the information one could read in the La Folie website (fees and rates...) and it tease me.
I just would like to undestand if it can be good for me.
I know many of you go to the Artemis FKK, but I don't feel attraction to big places and all the facilities included. I just enjoy a small place where I can relax a while, have an encounter with a girl and then leave.
Besides, I don't like paying 70 euro just to get in, I rather give that money to girl, if know what I mean.
So, looking at the website La Folie it all sounds good: cheap fees to get in, alchoolic drink allowed at reasonable price and girl at affordable rates... so what else is missing?
Please note that I am not looking for top-models or porn-stars-like girls, just an average good looking female in an easy-going environment. Important to me that they are nice, don't rush me and don't push me for extras.
Thank you.
I know exactly what you mean about large clubs. I avoid them because I just don't make any connections with women at the large clubs.
La Folie is small and the women are more like the girl next door than the women at Artemis.
And you are right, the pricing is definitely more favorable.
The weirdest thing about this place is the size of their towels. Its no bigger than a handkerchief and it won't wrap around your waist.
Angus Magee
08-06-08, 18:03
I know exactly what you mean about large clubs. I avoid them because I just don't make any connections with women at the large clubs.
La Folie is small and the women are more like the girl next door than the women at Artemis.
And you are right, the pricing is definitely more favorable.
The weirdest thing about this place is the size of their towels. Its no bigger than a handkerchief and it won't wrap around your waist.
Personally I think La Folie has changed in the past few years. As mentioned below, I was there last fall twice and both times I left without availing myself to the services. I found the women to be hard time pros or new EE girls who are just concerned about you buying them a picolo the moment you sit down.
I contrast this with several years ago (4-5) when I would meet lovely young girls (18-21) who worked there one or two nights to supplement their regular job income. They would want to chat (and tease;-)for as much as an hour before heading to a room.
Now it is-hello, buy me a picolo, lets go to a room...
No Thanks.
I am pretty sure, big as it is, Artimis os the better bet these days.
Though if you want a small bar there is always L'amour 2a. There you can sit and chat with the girls before taking one to a room. The girls are not bad-a bit skanky and rough-but nice.
http://www.lamour2a.de/
And you can always post about these bars and other matters on the Berlin thread.
Hi Jayleesf.
Did I see you there? I'm a Swede in my mid 30s (although all girls said I look younger), 179 cm (5'11''), fairly slim, short black hair, somewhat hairy chest. Maybe there was 50 girls there if you stayed late? I never stayed later than 10: 45 PM. My favourites were a fairly tall German brunette called Svenya and a Moldovan blond with curly hair whose name I don't remember, she was wonderful. All these platinum blonde Poles were really beautiful, but not much fun in the sack. A really short blond girl named Dominika was a disappointment. Totally passive. I like girls with fire, passion, and committment, but if you're into calm girls I guess she'd appeal to you.Kvaser,
Sorry but there are too many guys to remember. Especially since I am paying attention to the girls I am a tall overweight asian guy. I usually stay downstairs in the wellness area and go up to the main floor when ready to session. Let me know when you are in town again and maybe we can meet up at Artemis.
I think the actual number of girls is probably somewhere between 30 and 50. Still enough to have a lot of fun.
I don't know Svenya (did she have long or short hair? ). Any recognizable tattoos? I would like to check her out next time.
The Moldovan with the curly hair is actually my favorite girl at Artemis. Her name is Shania and I have written about her a couple of times in this forum if you want more info. I did not session with her on Saturday. But only to add a little variety. I actually did not like the curly hair. Her hair is normally straight. Glad you had a chance to meet her.
Personally I think La Folie has changed in the past few years. As mentioned below, I was there last fall twice and both times I left without availing myself to the services. I found the women to be hard time pros or new EE girls who are just concerned about you buying them a picolo the moment you sit down.
I contrast this with several years ago (4-5) when I would meet lovely young girls (18-21) who worked there one or two nights to supplement their regular job income. They would want to chat (and tease;-)for as much as an hour before heading to a room.
Now it is-hello, buy me a picolo, lets go to a room...
No Thanks.
I am pretty sure, big as it is, Artimis os the better bet these days.
Though if you want a small bar there is always L'amour 2a. There you can sit and chat with the girls before taking one to a room. The girls are not bad-a bit skanky and rough-but nice.
http://www.lamour2a.de/
And you can always post about these bars and other matters on the Berlin thread.
Angus is, of course, our resident expert on Berlin and my information on La Folie is dated.
I remember meeting local girls there from Prenzlauer Berg, Gruenewald or Reinickendorf who would give me a sampling of Berliner Schnauze. Too bad the selection has changed.
John Smith 2112
08-06-08, 21:42
Hi guys, long time lurker, first time poster, yada yada.
So I'm backpacking around europe and had to check out the FKK clubs. Berlin was along my route and Artemis is reachable by public transportation, so that's the one.
I don't have my notes with me, can't tell you which S-Bahn stop it is (can be easily found elsewhere in this forum). But it can't be any easier to find, it's only a block from the station. At the station, go all the way up the big flight of stairs to the north. Then walk west across a small parking lot, then a bridge that crosses some train tracks. If you look south, you can see Artemis, especially at night, it's right next to the tracks. Keep going out to the main road, turn left (heading south) for one block, and you're there!
Paid the 70 euro entrance fee. There are two sets of lockers, some small ones out front for your wallet and other valuables, and bigger lockers back in the changing rooms for your clothes. Got changed into a robe, if I had this to do over, I would have just used a towel, since I'm younger and in better shape than most guys there, it would make the girls more interested, not that it mattered. Or at least more easy for them to reach under there and flirt with me. Also, when the girls are approaching me and rubbing their bodies against me, I should have gone for some free feels, but didn't. Oh well.
The club has three levels. Basement has a swimming pool, hot tubs and sauna. Main floor has the changing rooms, bar, and kitchen. Also there is an outside patio for use during the day. Upstairs are the rooms. You get between floors with a big circular staircase, pretty cool.
Oh, and I arrived after a long train ride, finally got to the place about 21:00 and wasn't even sure if I'd be able to perform! In any case, food was the first thing in order. Made it past the bar and stage area, approached by a couple of girls, told them I had to eat first. The girls eat in the same buffet area as the guys, but wear towels. You could probably talk to them there but I did't.
Finished eating, went back into the bar to check out the scene. The girls either walk around completely nude, or wearing a little skirt around their waist that doesn't really cover anything. Approached by several girls, told them I had just gotten there and was still working up to it, and I'd talk to them later. I was very nice to each girl and thanked her for talking to me. The most aggressive was the black "Brazilian" girl, I told her I'd talk to her later, she said I didn't like Brazilians, I told her I don't know, I never met any until now. She finally left me alone. While I was sitting there, she tried to chat up this older guy and he told her "Go away! " I figured it's probably the best policy to be nice to all the girls, even the ones you aren't interested in.
Anyway, out of about 20 girls there were several interesting prospects. Then, I zeroed in on my target. This very friendly, petite, dark haired girl. She was talking to several guys for a while and was genuinely just being friendly, her face and eyes are very animated. I was worried someone would take her up to a room but nobody did! After a while she left the bar and was standing next to the stairs up to the rooms. Finally, my chance to talk to her, I asked her if she was waiting for someone. She said, she was waiting for someone that wants to go up to a room, and if I wanted to go, we could go. She's German, from Cologne. Those southern German girls really have a look that I like, a little bit darker, almost French looking. I think her name was Sadie but I'm not sure. She has tattoos of butterflies in her pubic region. Even though I was tired, she had the little John woken up in no time and ready for action. 30 minutes, 60 euros. Body 10, face 10, attitude 9, performance 9.
Time for round two, I noticed this classic blonde looking german girl sitting around, but by the time I was ready to talk to her, she was headed to the kitchen to eat. Oh well. I went over to the first girl that had caught my eye when I walked into the place, Deborah, a petite slim Bulgarian girl. Not much in the face to look at but a perfect slim body. Got to the room and she explained the extras, 50 euros for CIM etc. I declined and got the standard 30 minutes, 60 euros. She was very passionate and worked hard to please me. Body 9, face 5, attitude 9, performance 10.
I felt after being so tired, that two times was probably my limit, plus I wanted to be sure and catch the subway back to my hostel. Check out the FKK Palace forum for part 2.
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Exoticspirit
08-06-08, 23:38
I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?
By the way, if there are any resident experts on Berlin here, I would love to see more recent info on Mona and Kamila Dee over in the Berlin section.
She's German, from Cologne. Those southern German girls really have a look that I like, a little bit darker, almost French looking. I think her name was Sadie but I'm not sure.
Thanks for the newbie's perspective!
Koeln is north of their equivalent of the Mason-Dixon line (or the Weisswurstaequator), by the way, so it is highly unlikely you were with a southern German chick.
Southern Germany consists of Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bayern. They aren't any darker than folks to the north typically.
I would even venture to guess that she was actually Turkish if she was actually noticeably darker (think olive complexioned).
Angus Magee
08-07-08, 19:32
I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?
By the way, if there are any resident experts on Berlin here, I would love to see more recent info on Mona and Kamila Dee over in the Berlin section.
Can't help with Mona's as I have never been. But what do you want to know about KD? I will answer (if I have an answer...) on the Berlin board tp keep this one to it's intended topic.
AM
I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?
By the way, if there are any resident experts on Berlin here, I would love to see more recent info on Mona and Kamila Dee over in the Berlin section.Exoticspirit,
I don't consider the way the girls are keeping time a negative attribute. It also does not stop girls from going over the 30 minutes w/o charging extra. Mostly, my point was that the management was lecturing the girls be up front about the time spent in the room to avoid arguments when its time to pay the session fee. I have noticed that there are a lot less problems between the girls and customer post-session. I would be annoyed to have sessioned for like 35 minutes and getting charged 120 euros, especially if the girl does not mention it during the session. Just happy to hear that management is trying to avoid issues like this.
I have noticed that more girls are wearing watches. I always wear a watch at the clubs. I often extend to 60 minutes, so the watch lets me pace myself. I usually use up nearly the entire 30 or 60 minutes each time I go up to the room. Watch is also helpful with new girls who may try to shortchange you on time. Not a problem with my regulars.
Stayed at Kaiserdam Strabe which is just behind Messe and 15 minute walk froom Artemis. The area day and night looks empty but seemed safe. I had no worries at all of two days I spent at The Artemis.
After a long day of work finally I was at the gates of The Artemis on last Monday. Six a c'lock precise I paid my entrance fee of 70 Euro. After having shower I hit the bar area. 15-20 girls and same amount of mongers were there. Quality was not its upmost but improved by the night unfolded. Usual thing happened. As soon as I approached the bar area I was pestered with the sharks first. Politely refused. I had my drink and went downstairs to see whatelse was available. Nobody in the pool area except a beauty was resting on a chezlong. She had quite fine body. I had onother drink and went to see this finebody closer. Indeed she had greatbody and attitude when I found it later.
1. Silvia/Sahsa. This 40 years old beauty is from Hungary. First she told me her name was Silvia later in the zimmer she asked me call her Sasha (a stage name)Whatever It was her name at this age her curv body was awesome, her planted breasts were almost natural and clean shaven pussy matched 18 years old ones. Our conversation was very pleasant and long before the room.
Her talents were excellent. A long and wet BBBJ, top to the bottom body kissing, passionate DFK and several positions of steamy sex. She mentioned me that she only works day time until 8 c'clock. That was a good start for a long long night.
2. Masha. After having sauna and refusing upstair bar area beatuies I went to kino where I had great services on my first visit. I just sat this bubly blonde 24 years old Russian chick named Masha with huge tits came along. Wonderful smile and appeal resulted going to room. This girl is not a model type and got bit kilos extra but you could have lots have fantasies with her. And I did most of it. A wild BBBJ followed, 69, more wholesome pussy eating, tit fuck and followed with missionary and dogy. She kept smiling with pleasure all the way.
3. Konstance. Had my dinner and took long break and sat by the bar. Usual asking of sex and refusing them went on. Some have got upset easly thinking that I didn't want them which was true partly but money and filling the balls were to consider. And this model type a fresh talent appeared from the door. Curly black hair with perfect D-cups and suprisingly blue eyes (lens? )Konstance is 21 year old from Romania. Luck I was she came close where I was sitting. Eye contact was inevitable. While She was having her drink we had a chat about her country, Germany and so on. She has been in Artemis just 2 months and was enjoying the work.
Our conversation continued in the room. She was a good joice. We started our action on the sofa A deep DFK was the start, went on with DATY that pussy was from heaven. BBBJ was slow and passionete carried on 69. Came on top first, missionary and dogy for the finale. I just didn't want to finish with her. She can be the reason to return. Awesome she was.
4. Valentina I. From Litiuenia. This 26 years old blond, leggy, perfect with natural tits was the next. I was feeling tried but I could not just refused her. She had something that attached me to her. A nice smile and soft talk took me to the room. She had tasty pussy with nice lips. A bit rushed BBBJ and 69 followed a long dogy and missionary.
5. Katya. Having another sauna and swim in the pool. I rested and slept about an hour to refill. Ready for more. Sat in kino and pesred mose girls none seemed OK. And Katya appeared. She is Ukraine. A blond 20 something, natural breasts, soft sking and great laugh. Without knowing she was the fifth on the night worked very hard to pleased me. At the end she described me as Kalashnikov gun. This sparked me a distant memory that she was the last girl back in last September.
6. Valentina II. This Hungarian top to the bottom siliconed porn style shark pesterd me all night long. Whenever she came along I was resting from a session (Actually there was a teenager looking German girl who was much nicer than her who had the same problem she was either always late or early so never had a chance with her)I didn't want to be rude. At the end I pointed her that I would go to room If she makes me come otherwise no pay. She accepted that was until we entered the room. Her attitude changed while we were getting ready for the action. No DFK, reluctant and fast DATY, no fingering and cheating fuck. Her sixth position didn't made her any good. I took my time I banged her hard that she was in sweat. I made sure that my money didn't go easly. Next day whenever she had seen me she stayed away from me. Never dare to ask again.
7. Alice form Poland 26 years old. Next door girl type brunette. Easy to have chat and nice body with natural tits. I wasn't sure I had any strenght and fluid left but she was nice try to finish and also money was low for the night. She hasn't got the body to die for but she is GFE, soft, cudly and warm. Usual action took place. This time I let her go take the pace. I enjoyed her sensual approach. My night ended with a happy finale at 2 c'lock in the morning.
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I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?Hi Exoticspirit.
Yeah, all the girls I nailed wore watches. Maybe there was some discrete form of clock in the rooms to help the girls but I knever saw such a device, I guess I was too much into the pleasures of the flesh to notice.
Angus Magee
08-08-08, 09:01
Exoticspirit,
I have noticed that more girls are wearing watches. I always wear a watch at the clubs. I often extend to 60 minutes, so the watch lets me pace myself. I usually use up nearly the entire 30 or 60 minutes each time I go up to the room. Watch is also helpful with new girls who may try to shortchange you on time. Not a problem with my regulars.
Not being an FKK regular this is more of a general comment on keeping time.
IMO much depends upon where (which kind of establishment) you are visiting. For the FKK girls I am sure it is a question of volume. Especially if you are obviously a tourist, or at least an infrequent visitor, it may be tempting for them to try to get an extra paid half hour from the customer. So I would say it is at least partly the customer's responsibility to keep a check on time to avoid hassles and extra surprise charges. You may not want that responsibility but there it is.
In other types of establishments (bordellos) it depends upon the quality of the place and really how much you pay for the session. The lower places, the girls will let you know the time, usually well before it is actually over...
Middle places (e.g.Müller II) the Hausmutti will give the door a knock at the half hour. When this has happened to me (infrequently) the girl has never had a problem with me taking a few more minutes to finish.
The higher, more expensive establishment (e.g. KD) I have never had a problem with time. If all is going well I have had as much as 15 minutes extended on the half hour at no extra charge, though usually this time is spent talking and cuddling after a session.
I think with all types of establishments (though again my experience is mostly with bordellos) there is also the factor of being a regular. If you come back again and again the girls are much more likely to cut you some slack as far as extra time goes and I am sure that the management supports this-it is good for business. But I also like to make sure the girl knows that I am aware that we are overtime so that if need be we can renegotiate. It is good business to make sure that both are happy with the transaction.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.
Kvaser,
Sorry but there are too many guys to remember. Especially since I am paying attention to the girls I am a tall overweight asian guy. I usually stay downstairs in the wellness area and go up to the main floor when ready to session. Let me know when you are in town again and maybe we can meet up at Artemis.
I think the actual number of girls is probably somewhere between 30 and 50. Still enough to have a lot of fun.
I don't know Svenya (did she have long or short hair? ). Any recognizable tattoos? I would like to check her out next time.
The Moldovan with the curly hair is actually my favorite girl at Artemis. Her name is Shania and I have written about her a couple of times in this forum if you want more info. I did not session with her on Saturday. But only to add a little variety. I actually did not like the curly hair. Her hair is normally straight. Glad you had a chance to meet her.Jayleesf, did you by any chance read a book about Berlin in one of the couches in the wellness area? There was a big asian guy reading such a book when I was there, maybe it was you?
Svenya did have black panties (not a thong), a black thing on her upper body covering her shoulders but not her breasts, and natural breasts, maybe a B-cup I'd guess. No tattoos that I can remember.
So Shania was her name. Good to know. I love curly hair as long as the curls are not too small, i.e. not naturally curly hair. Yes, she was wonderful.
It wasn't my intention to have a second day at the Artemis but Devil inside me said go ahead after a long day with work and boring bussiness dinner. I was thinking to have a rest and ready for Baldi's Party Treff next day. Being close to Artemis was enough so I ended up infront of the door at 12AM. As soon as I entered what is available made me that I had a good decision. Bar area was bussy and noisy with pool dancing so I went to my favorite place the kino.
1. Dina. There were two girls sitting at the back, one of them Dina who had my attention previous day being noisy and loud speaker, she also seemed a shark way the way she acted. This time she was with another girl. She called me sit with them. A bit reluctant I joined them to see what was on offer. She speaks perfect Turkish, German and Russian and her English was fine too. She cliamed that she was from White Russia. Her friend Svetlana had no English only Russian and some German I guess. The offer, she put it roughly without a shame, a double of steamy hardcore sex. She promides me I would have a life time experience. Oh yes. That was I needed but wasn't sure It would happened with her. She insisted to do that. I declined. I was ready to have someone so I asked to go with one of them. Later I would have the other. Dina was the first. Swetlana would get another session. Dina ruled me to nearby room. Got undressed. Not a perfect body but great ass, olive skin and long legs.
This girl is wild cat. Never stops moaning, speaking dirty words, screams all the time. Gave a deep DFK and BBBJ, followed with a ball licking. I had my 69, fingerd her her brown pussy. When it came to sex she became wilder that one point I lost my stemina. It was too distracting having too much noise and action. I asked her take it easy. She only took my word for few minutes. It was a few minutes later she was same. There was no choise but to join her in a rough way. I went behind of her and I put my fingers to her mouth banged her harder than the usual. At the end she was still talking and asking whether I would have her friend Svetlana next. Crazy she was. I've told her I would have her next. It was a promise.
2. Xena. After having a crazy session with Dina I needed rest. Had sauna, cold shower, a late supper from buffet, had a nice talk with Masha from first day, refused some hot chicks. I was again in Kino at right back. Waiting for my next session. There she was. Xena a German. A nice face, nicely done boob job, tall slender legs and shinning skin with dark hair. Mr. Little Rizla was ready.
She offered me start in the kino and carry on in the room. After a lenghtly DFK she kneeled infront of me sucked me deep. With the porn movie on the screen that was nice. Later she climbed on sofa and sat my face. Her pussy was smooth and juicy. When we moved to zimmer her body looked much better after dark kino. Bit more BBBJ followed four position sex. Her pink arse was an invitation for an deep anal but 100 Euro barrier stoped me doing that.
3. Svetlana. I usually keep my promises and I did for her. I watched those two from distance. Dina chased nearly every men for her services. But this girl was always standing alone and getting few bussiness. Maybeit was the the language barrier. One point Dina managed a double with a guy and they went to the room. I also neede some rest anyway. When I thought I was ready I found them lying on the sofas near buffet. Swetlana looked much better in the light. Because her English was limited Dina told her to go with me. She was suprised that I 've had come backfor her. Her smile grew and ruled me to the room.
After having a wild session with Dina this girl was a soft cat. Her body was perfect. We had all the way DFK, very generous BBBJ, 69, DATY and four positions. She was the one of those that I wouldn't want to finish. We were both sweating when we had finished. Dina was right she was good. Actually much better than her. A real GFE I have had with her.
4. Conceta. It was nearly 3AM. I felt I was tired and thinking to go to sleep. But Conceta approached me several times whenever I refused her that I was resting she was nice to say She would comeback. Indeed she did. There weren't many guys left this time of the hour. I think she was trying to get more bussiness before closing time. I was one of her targets. A few Russian MILFs tried to have me but I declined. This beauty was much more appealing. At the end It didn't take long to reach to room.
Conceta, as she says, is half German half Italian. She's got pearl skin, nicely done boobjob and a tatoo of her boyfriend's name on her shoulders. And a firm thight pussy resembles an asshole. One point I was wondering which hole I was in. She wasn't very keen on DFK because of her caughing. Rest was OK. After two days of orgy my strength was at final stage and no juice left I had the cut short before coming. She was a bit upset about that I had not finished. I told her that it wasn't her fault. She asked to do some HJ. That even didn't help. That was the end. A very happy end. My balls and my pocket was empty but happy of having these two days of Sodomy.
I should thank the Viagra & other Performance Enhancers forum providing the usefull information about Zinc as a semen volume expander. That realy have worked. Next was Baldi's Partytreff in Legende.
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The Domine
08-09-08, 14:49
Great reces Rizla!
Thanks a lot!
Does anybody knows how many it costs a session in the room with jacuzzi?
Artemis, wait for me.
I'm coming!
Sexual Healing
08-10-08, 15:42
Personally I think La Folie has changed in the past few years. As mentioned below, I was there last fall twice and both times I left without availing myself to the services. I found the women to be hard time pros or new EE girls who are just concerned about you buying them a picolo the moment you sit down.
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Now it is-hello, buy me a picolo, lets go to a room...
No Thanks.
I am pretty sure, big as it is, Artimis os the better bet these days.
Though if you want a small bar there is always L'amour 2a. There you can sit and chat with the girls before taking one to a room. The girls are not bad-a bit skanky and rough-but nice.Thank you Angus Magee for your tip about La Folie. Not being a regular of this places and not speaking German still I don't understand what is a "picolo". Anyway, I think I will forget it and maybe turn myself to the Artemis.
(Thank you very much Rizla as well for your detailed report)
Still I don't get on with the idea of paying 70 euro at the door and going for the sex-binge in order to make it worth, but it seems there are not many options.
The link you gave me for "L'amour2a" was helpful, except that. Gosh. Girls in the picture don't look very attractive.
Or maybe I could take advantage out of your bordello experience and try one. Which one would you reccomend?
Thanks
DkFatBastard
08-11-08, 05:45
I believe the price for using the VIP room are that you have to book a girl for an hour and buy a bottle of champagne per hour you want to spend in the room.
Great reces Rizla!
Thanks a lot!
Does anybody knows how many it costs a session in the room with jacuzzi?
Artemis, wait for me.
I'm coming!
Angus Magee
08-11-08, 06:53
Thank you Angus Magee for your tip about La Folie. Not being a regular of this places and not speaking German still I don't understand what is a "picolo". Anyway, I think I will forget it and maybe turn myself to the Artemis.
(Thank you very much Rizla as well for your detailed report)
Still I don't get on with the idea of paying 70 euro at the door and going for the sex-binge in order to make it worth, but it seems there are not many options.
The link you gave me for "L'amour2a" was helpful, except that. Gosh. Girls in the picture don't look very attractive.
Or maybe I could take advantage out of your bordello experience and try one. Which one would you reccomend?
Thanks
A picolo is a small bottle of sparkling wine or "champagne" sold in bars where the women are available for backroom fun. The idea is that while you sit and talk, she has something to drink and the bar (and I imagine the lady gets a kick back) makes money. You see the picolo will cost around 20€.
Now I am ot against this overall. I understand that th bar and the lady hav to make money and this is how they do it. My objection comes when the lady asks in the first one or two minutes if you will buy her a picolo-before I even know if I really want a chat with her.
Heh Heh Heh, yes the girls do look a little rough in those pics don't they. Maybe KD (Kamila Dee) would be a better choice. Lots of info on KD in the Berlin forum.
The Domine
08-11-08, 10:02
I believe the price for using the VIP room are that you have to book a girl for an hour and buy a bottle of champagne per hour you want to spend in the room.And translated in euro it means = ?
DkFatBastard
08-11-08, 15:22
For the girl 120€ and for the champagne, you'll have to ask the club, I would guess minimum 100€ for a bottle.
And translated in euro it means = ?
Jayleesf, did you by any chance read a book about Berlin in one of the couches in the wellness area? There was a big asian guy reading such a book when I was there, maybe it was you?
Svenya did have black panties (not a thong), a black thing on her upper body covering her shoulders but not her breasts, and natural breasts, maybe a B-cup I'd guess. No tattoos that I can remember.
So Shania was her name. Good to know. I love curly hair as long as the curls are not too small, i.e. not naturally curly hair. Yes, she was wonderful.Kvaser,
Yes, that was me :) How often are you at Artemis? Come say hi next time.
I will have to look for Svenya next time.
Kvaser,
Yes, that was me :) How often are you at Artemis? Come say hi next time.
I will have to look for Svenya next time.This was my first trip to Berlin ever and I'm afraid I won't have time to go back until next year, maybe at Easter. Is that a good time to visit Artemis, you think?
Exoticspirit
08-12-08, 16:51
I plan to be at Artemis on Aug 21 probably from about 5 or 6 pm to 10 or 11 pm.
Anybody else going to be there?
This was my first trip to Berlin ever and I'm afraid I won't have time to go back until next year, maybe at Easter. Is that a good time to visit Artemis, you think?Kvaser,
I don't know if there is a bad time for a visit. I wasn't there during Easter this year but the lineup during the Spring was just fine.
Horny Harry
08-14-08, 08:35
OK guys, a couple of short questions;
1) How do you pay (cash, credit?) and how does Artemis keep track of the number of girls you've been with?
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
3) Is there any sex going on in public or is it restricted to the private rooms?
4) I heard Thursday and Saturday are good/busy nights, can anyone confirm what the slow nights are?
5) Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it?
I'm thinking about going to Artemis next week, depending how much time I have left before my flight home after finishing work in Berlin.
Looking foward to writing a report next week!! ;)
1) How do you pay (cash, credit?) and how does Artemis keep track of the number of girls you've been with?
You can pay the entrance fee cash or with credit card, and after every sessione with a girl you pay her cash.
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
No, you can wear a towel or a bath towel, so you can hide you erection. I had one in public before going with a girl but I hided it without problems.
3) Is there any sex going on in public or is it restricted to the private rooms?
If you go to see a movie a girl can come near you and begin something (hand or blow job), but then you go in a room for the action. There are some couches in the main room but there are curtains when you can hide. Anyway, you can always ask the girl to go to a room.
4) I heard Thursday and Saturday are good/busy nights, can anyone confirm what the slow nights are?
I went on Saturday, there were a lot of beautiful girls, more than during the week, also many men, but no problem in finding a girl.
5) Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it?
The first time I left the watch in the locker (which is safe, don't worry), the second one I wore it (you can do it, but if you take a shower you have to take care of it).
I'm thinking about going to Artemis next week, depending how much time I have left before my flight home after finishing work in Berlin.
I hope you went to Artemis, for me it was a wonderful experience and a wonderful place, the paradise of ****!
5) Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it?
I'll leave it to my esteemed colleagues on this forum to answer your other questions.
You will need a watch to time your sessions.
Any watch will do. It needn't be anything expensive. It just needs to work and be water tight.
I broke the crystal on a watch not once but twice at the showers at Atlantis. Since then a simple plastic Swatch is all I wear when I visit a club.
As to leaving your watch in the locker or wearing it. You can do anything you want. The club doesn't have any liability for valuables in its lockers though.
You can pay the entrance fee cash or with credit card, and after every sessione with a girl you pay her cash.They also have an ATM in the club if you need more cash.
I heard Thursday and Saturday are good/busy nights, can anyone confirm what the slow nights are?You are right. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are the busiest days.
Slow nights are usually Sundays and Mondays. Slow nights are not always equal to bad nights though.
Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it? You can wear your watch or leave it in your valuables safe at Artemis, the same place as there you put your wallet. Don't put it in the clothes locker.
You have to be careful not to lose your key somewhere though.
Maybe it's better to leave the watch in the hotel after all. I would probably do that or wear the watch at all times.
Lots of people wear watches in the club but as Jackyo said most people wear a cheap plastic watch, just for the purpose of keeping track of the time.
Good luck
I had a lot fun on my first night which was Monday.So Mondays seem fine at Artemis. Being not many clients meant good service with most of the girls.
Recommended.
The Domine
08-15-08, 22:35
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
No, you can wear a towel or a bath towel, so you can hide you erection. I had one in public before going with a girl but I hided it without problems.But men shouln't wear a bathrobe? Don't say to me that we have to walk around naked. I asked about and I was convinced of this: NO men naked and NO gay at the Artemis. If not so I have to renounce to visit it!
Please, let me know. I'm not sure now.
Basketcase
08-16-08, 11:04
But men shouln't wear a bathrobe? Don't say to me that we have to walk around naked. I asked about and I was convinced of this: NO men naked and NO gay at the Artemis. If not so I have to renounce to visit it!
Please, let me know. I'm not sure now.
Guten Tag Herr The Domine
I guess you will see fully naked men walking around in Artemis just like you do in the Hessen big three. At Oase - many men in the not their prime state sun bath totally stark bollock naked.
Then men also wander around looking for fresh towels after showering totally naked.
The showers are communal so you should be prepared to see schlongs a plenty during your stay unless you do not shower the entire that you are in the house.
The recommendation is to wear a bath towel around the waist and maybe as brief as possible so that more of you is exposed to the ministrations of the ladies who are naked as well. You get to feel more of her as she leans in near to you and she has easier access to your scrotal assets or to you maybe sensitive nipples to be licked and tickled.
It is not cool to wear your shorts underneath the towel.
So yes, as men are in towels or bathrobes then you will see testicle sacs on show and shafts whether in a limp state or in their full erect glory around as men sit and relax or get a blow job in public.
I expect you cannot guarantee no homosexual men at the FKK clubs. You may find some being dragged along by work colleagues or their straight friends or some may be coming along to se what the fuss is about out of interest. To bar homosexual men and women from their clubs regardless that they are private would be discrimination and this is not a label that any club wishes to be tainted with. Maybe if someone was distinctly in the wrong place then a suggestion from the thekenfrau may guide them away but I guess you cannot turn people away because of their sexual orientation.
The point I am trying to make is be prepared to see naked men and there can be gay men in the club but the general concept is that there should be very few if any in attendance.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Hessen Bub
08-16-08, 11:04
Bathrobes ar for sissies only. ;-) You should wear a towel to cover yourself, that's the usuals dresscode for men in clubs.
HB
At he artemis you wear a bathrobe, but you can also wear just a towel. I don't know in other clubs. Anyway, no gays in Artemis!
Bathrobes ar for sissies only. ;-) You should wear a towel to cover yourself, that's the usuals dresscode for men in clubs.
HB
But men shouln't wear a bathrobe? Don't say to me that we have to walk around naked. I asked about and I was convinced of this: NO men naked and NO gay at the Artemis. If not so I have to renounce to visit it!
Please, let me know. I'm not sure now.
I am sure there are some men who go to the club just to see you nekked.
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
I think there are 2 issues here:
1. Getting an erection by seeing so many naked girls around: It can be a shock the first time you visit a FKK indeed, but the vast majority no longer get excited by seeing naked girls around. So you may be one of the rare, if not the only one, to get an erection by seeing naked girls. But don't worry, nobody pays attention and you'll get used to seeing naked girls quickly anyway and won't have an erection yourself anymore.
2. Guys walking around with an erection: This occasionally happened to me when I have a blowjob in the common areas and then we move to the room, so I guess it happens with other people too, but I never paid attention and I guess nobody else paid attention.
Bathrobes ar for sissies only. ;-) You should wear a towel to cover yourself, that's the usuals dresscode for men in clubs.
Except that, if you are a huge guy, the towel may not be large enough. I've seen some guys so pissed up that they renounce to put the towel around their hips and just carry it on their shoulders.
Also, you'll seen naked guys in the showers, in the jacuzzi and swimming pool, sun-bathing, etc...
In other words, if you're concerned about other people seeing you naked, you have a towel to protect you most of the time (although you still need to go to public shower, but that's the same in any sport club), but if seeing other guys naked is a sight that offends you, you shouldn't go to a FKK.
Jim
PS: If I remember it correctly, at Artemis, you have the choice between a towel and a bathrobe (for better "protection"). Many clubs give you only a towel.
If being seen naked by other people is a big concern, why even come to think of visiting a FKK club? Just a thought...
Frenchieboy
08-18-08, 10:33
Thanks for all your advices about Artemis but I would like to know something about prices I understand that the entrance is 70 euros but for 30 minutes with a girl is it 60 or 80 euros? Is it possible to discuss prices?
Thanks for your answer
I understand that the entrance is 70 euros but for 30 minutes with a girl is it 60 or 80 euros?60 €.
Is it possible to discuss prices?No.
However if you feel you are being ripped off you can always talk to the management and hope they side with you.
I should thank the Viagra & other Performance Enhancers forum providing the usefull information about Zinc as a semen volume expander. That realy have worked. Next was Baldi's Partytreff in Legende.Rizla44,
I am impressed! Can you (or others) please tell me the secrets? It could be cool to have it up, hard and ready for 7 or more in a night as you had the 1.st day at Artemis.
I am healthy guy but can unfortunately only do it twice a day. Can use of Viagra disturb my natural ability to have an erection?
Exoticspirit
08-21-08, 07:43
I will be visiting Artemis for the first time tonight. Will plan to get there about 5 pm. Staying at Hotel Honigshof which is only one s_baun station away as this hotel (breakfast and internet included) is right across the street from a station.
Also a five minute walk from Club Mona which I did last night - review is in the Berlin section.
I will get a review of this Artemis visit soon.
Exoticspirit
08-21-08, 22:47
Okay, just got back from Artemis and here are my lengthy impressions. This was my first FKK club so I'm going to comment on the entire FKK concept as well.
The Club
Artemis is indeed an upscale place as shown in the photos of their website. Change rooms were clean as was the indoor swim area. Showers were a bit of a pain since they only come out in spurts so you have to keep pushing the knob for continuous water. But as for general facilities including the private rooms, I would give it a high rating for sure. Food was so-so but passable. As a tip, when the restaurant area opens up at 6 pm, the room will be packed as it seems that 70% of the girls rush in to feed their faces. So it might be better to wait until the rush is over before grabbing dinner. I ended up eating only a light meal at first since I didn't want to overeat. Besides, they keep the food there through the evening so I had seconds just before I left.
The club is easy to find. Just get off S-baun station Westkreutz and walk over the bridge once outside the station to Halensee. Turn left at Halensee where you will find a tire shop. Keep walking down and around the curve and you will soon come to a second tire shop. Artemis is right behind it in a large building with the huge sign Artemis on top.
The Atmosphere
Things are sure different, at least from what I'm use to by North American standards. They have female bartenders overlooking the pool area as well as change room attendants who keep the place spotless. But since the concept of the FKK club holds, men are swimming in the pool naked, going in the saunas naked, showering naked all in plain view of the attendants. I went along with it since it was the way things are done here. Didn't really bother me though.
What I do have a problem with, is that the main lounge area on the main floor is a smoking section. I could stand only little periods of a time there. The downstairs lounge near the pool is much better since it's non-smoking but much quieter. This can be good or bad. Most of the girls do not come down here so you could miss some traffic but having said that, it you want to escape the aggressive girls, downstairs is a place to do it. For smokers, the main lounge won't be an issue but for non-smokers like myself, this is a major problem of the club in my mind.
The other thing which surprised me was that there were two male massage attendants in the pool area. Massage sessions were extra charge. I would have thought that none of the guys would want massages from men but these two male workers were actually quite busy throughout the time I was there.
The Girls
Of course I have to comment on the girls. There are some sharks for sure and I fell victim to one for my first go. Okay it wasn't that bad but I'll report on specifics on the girls I took on a separate review. They tend to circulate and would even wander to the pool area but not as frequent as in the main floor. These girls became a bit annoying for me after awhile. As far as types, there are a surprisingly diverse number of shapes and sizes here. Lots of pot bellies seen but there are indeed some hotties too. I didn't find these girls to be as friendly as say the usual strippers in North American clubs, especially in Montreal. These girls tend not to want to socialize too much unless they know that they will be having you as a customer for sure.
What The Club Lacks
Despite all the luxuries of the club, I really feel that the club lacks a few things. The first in my mind are TV screens with sports playing. After all, the club is for men. They could have added internet access as well. The only reason why I say that these items should be added is that most of the guys in my observation, spent a lot of time just wandering around different areas of the club. There are really no strip dance shows to watch even if you are in between private sessions with a girl. There's really nothing to do so some guys hit the sauna, some take dips in the pool and some even sleep. There is a weight training room with lots of good gym equipment but I didn't see anyone using them. There are two rooms called kinos which are basically mini theatres playing non stop porn but these are actually some target rooms that the sharks go to.
The Overall Concept
Again, this was my first FKK experience and my feelings are a bit mixed. Sure it's nice to be in a place that is luxurious and with lots of naked women walking around. But I think that this would have been a better experience if I went there with some others. In fact, I saw many local guys there who came in numbers, much like an outing to a strip club. Guys were hanging out together whether in the lounge or pool areas. At least in numbers, there is someone to talk to. When one is alone with not much to do, we end up having guys wander the club aimlessly. I'm not sure if all guys ended up participating in private sessions with the girls either. There were many guys there who didn't take any girls by my observation. Maybe it is a place to hang out as well.
Personally, I've become a one shot, one girl per day is enough for me type of guy. So I had some pressure put on myself coming into Artemis. Loaded up on Viagra that a friend gave me since I thought that I would need some artificial help if I'm to do multiples in a single evening. There is pressure to do multiples at FKK clubs in order to bring the price per session down. Now, I don't know if it was the Viagra, the atmosphere or a combo, but I had two different girls and although I was able to do the act both sessions, I was unable to finish each one. So I called it a night at two.
In contrast, just the evening before, I did the typical Berlin bordello outing (see my review on Club Mona in the Berlin section). For less money and less luxury, I think I ended up having a better session at Club Mona (and no problems with not finishing either) compared to Artemis. So if I ever visit Berlin or Germany again, I'm not so sure if I would do another FKK club. I don't need all the extras such as pools, saunas, etc. I would probably do the single session visits to bordellos instead especially since Berlin has many reputable ones. But that's just me.
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Exoticspirit
08-21-08, 23:00
Okay, I had only two girls at Artemis as pointed out in my review of the club. The first one was a shark named Fana. She's a darked haired girl from Hungary. Pretty good looking and friendly too.
But during the act, she had this annoying habit. She kept urging me to finish and slapped my ass. I didn't really like that. Although she didn't disrespect the time (30 minutes), I was annoyed after awhile that I ended up the session probably at 20 minutes and thanked her for trying. As in my review, I never finished either of my two sessions maybe due to the atmosphere and/or Viagra I loaded up on to prepare for multiple girls for the first time.
I would avoid this girl because of her annoying habit unless you are okay with girls urging you to finish quickly.
The other one I took was a nice Polish blonde named Katerina. Fake tits but didn't rush. Although I didn't finish with her either, she tried her best. So she would get top marks from me.
Still, both these Artemis girls were not as good as the German MILF I had at the Mona place the night before.
Dave Jamsis
09-02-08, 19:15
Greetings Friends-
I apologize if this questions has been asked before, and based on the content of ISG I am sure it has (although I could not find in archives).
So if you make ONE visit to Europe a year, and have the opportunity to spend 7 hours at one FKK....what do you choose...Palace or Artemis?
I have the opportunity to visit either city for an entire Friday evening coming up this December. I have been to Palace before, never to Artemis (nor Berlin for that matter). I have never been disapointed at Palace. However Artemis intrigues me a bit.
Thank you kindly for any responses.
So if you make ONE visit to Europe a year, and have the opportunity to spend 7 hours at one FKK....what do you choose...Palace or Artemis?
There's no one definitive answer to this, as personal prefernce plays a big part in this, but when I have a short stopover in FRA, I go to Oase. Easy access by car or trains, and since you're not a regular visitor and can't build up a roster of preferred providers, it's also a less risky place if you're choosing blind.
Exoticspirit
09-03-08, 04:08
So if you make ONE visit to Europe a year, and have the opportunity to spend 7 hours at one FKK....what do you choose...Palace or Artemis?
If you are going to spend 7 hours at Artemis, better bring a good book. See my recent review.
Basketcase
09-03-08, 08:28
okay, i had only two girls at artemis as pointed out in my review of the club. the first one was a shark named fana. she's a darked haired girl from hungary. pretty good looking and friendly too.
but during the act, she had this annoying habit. she kept urging me to finish and slapped my ass. i didn't really like that. although she didn't disrespect the time (30 minutes), i was annoyed after awhile that i ended up the session probably at 20 minutes and thanked her for trying. as in my review, i never finished either of my two sessions maybe due to the atmosphere and/or viagra i loaded up on to prepare for multiple girls for the first time.
i would avoid this girl because of her annoying habit unless you are okay with girls urging you to finish quickly.
i saw and talked to fana of hungary when i was visiting artemis as well. i did not session with her. she was not my type being slightly milfy and a had a hustler about her. she was very good with the sell tactics, feeling my chest and nipples, nuzzling my face and trying to kiss me on the lips in the main bar room.
fana has long dark hair, a decent body, b cups, average build but an overall look that did not do it for me. sorry that was not meant in a bad way. the chemistry just was not there when she was doing all the right moves to get me aroused as my little lbc poked up and i had to really hide the fella since she found he was up and started masturbating little lbc. i had to definitely say no that i was not ready.
she seemed to me to be a good session if i went with her but i knew that i would be panicking because the visuals were not there. maybe i am like some other guys - the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) types are the preference. fana did not fit this mould.
i did 11 sessions over 3 visits to artemis. i know, promised write up to come.
hello guys,
i've read a lot about artemis on this forum and i think i'm ready to go for it. but still have a few doubts. that's why i would like to ask you some questions. please if anybody can answer even only for one question i would be very pleased, i hope some of you can answer all questions.
1. i'm 30 but i look younger, i have never been in a such crazy, funny, sexy place but i would like to experience it. if i can look strange or more young 20's years old men can i meet and this place?
2. how many woman can i expect on friday at 12. 00 in the morning, and how many womany can i expect on thursday 23. 00?
3. my favourite type of the girl is rather [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) and i know i can find a sexy girl if she is over 18 till 24 yo. i like young looking, cute faces and slim babes and if she is tiny. up to 167 cm. that's is excellent for me! do i have a chance to meet my perfect girl there? or even close to my dream girl?
4. in the sex kinos. if i sat and any lady comes and start sucking me without asking and i don't refuse her but after a few minutes i tell her that's enough thanks and i don't want to go with you. it will be ok? or i should tell her at the beginning. don't touch me please, i don't want it. can she treat me like a bastard? i sucke you 5 minute and now you don't want me? or it will be ok i'll say thank you for now.
5. in sex kino is the thing normal ladies go to the end by sucking a man? and after you climax you have to pay her without going to the room? or rather it is forbiidden in that place?
6. are there any areas where i an seat to be sure i can rest and no women can ask me are you going with me?
7. can you tell me how many girls of my type i can expect on friday 12:00 and thursday 23. 00?
that it is for now. please let me know everything you can. thanks in advance
obama
Obama friend
1. Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros.
2. You'll see at least 20 by 12 clock.After that no less than 30-40
3. Just go there.There isn't any dream girl there. There are tons of them.I promise you are going to forget your dream girl forever.But beware of the sharks who will pester you constantly.
4. They never go down without agreeing for the action.No means no.When the action starts there is no way to go back.It's 50Euros.You make your mind before that otherwise it's not fair toward the girl as long as she acts accordingly..
5. It's up to you to fiinish in the Kino.You want to finish in room you just ask the girl.She'll take you anywhere you like.
6. The best place is downstairs bar area.They usually don't bother the guys overthere.It's also quite because no music there.
7. Same answer as NO.2.
No worries ,be happy..
Obama friend
1. Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros.Thank you very much! But m english isn't perfect and I don't understand this sentence "Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros. " Can you explain writing again more simply for me, maybe I'm not too smart to understand this. So can I expect a lot of girls, "tons of" my dream girls there? Or what, please tell me again
Warsteiner
09-04-08, 18:19
Thank you very much! But m english isn't perfect and I don't understand this sentence "Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros. " Can you explain writing again more simply for me, maybe I'm not too smart to understand this. So can I expect a lot of girls, "tons of" my dream girls there? Or what, please tell me again
Hi Obama,
It means it doesn't matter how old you are so long as you have enough money. There will be enough women there that will fit your criteria i.e. young and petite.
Have fun!
Judge Absalom
09-04-08, 19:18
Hey Obama,
I was just at Artemis and can confirm for you that you will see lots of your dream girls there.
Thank you very much! But m english isn't perfect and I don't understand this sentence "Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros. " Can you explain writing again more simply for me, maybe I'm not too smart to understand this. So can I expect a lot of girls, "tons of" my dream girls there? Or what, please tell me again
Are you absolutely sure your name is "Obama" and not "Bush?" I mean Bush has problems speaking English too...
Ortos
Are you absolutely sure your name is "Obama" and not "Bush?" I mean Bush has problems speaking English too...
OrtosYea Ortos,
Tell me better about young good looking, slim girls there. Maybe any names or hit before my going there.
Thanks in advance
Obama friend.
Just go there.
You'll find the all answers in a half hour and you'll never turn back.
Blue Swede
09-05-08, 22:50
I visited Artemis twice during the IFA messe, some short reports:
Friday: I arrived pretty early, like 20. 00. The place was quite calm but already lots of pretty girls. By some reason, I often find myself just circling around and have diffuculties to make up my mind. But that's a part of the ritual, I guess.
After a while, I was approached by a Polish girl, Dagmara, a red-head with glasses that I found attrattive and I agreed on a trip to a room.
She was really a GFE, everything went on slowly and was very good.
Since this was my first session, the risk to finish in 4 minutes was real, so I asked to take it really slow, something she fulfilled ferfectly. (Others might take the opportunity to finish really quickly after taking it easy like 30 seconds.).
After the session, time for all different saunas and something to eat.
After some more circling around, I found a very pretty Brazilian, Name?
She was slim and had a very pretty smile, so I agreed on a session. This was a bit of mistake, in the room there was massive tries to upsell. When I denied, the session was quite rushed and also a bit rough. She was still pretty and a joy to feel, but it could have been a lot better.
After this I left about midnight, it was not very crowded considering the IFA messe, but no congestions for rooms and girls.
On Saturday, there was a defferent ballgame.
After a brief "study visit" to La Folie, where the short report is that the "girls" except one, should have to pay ME for sex. The exception was a very pretty girl, Jenny. But as she could speak only German, that outruled the possibility for warming up in the sofa. So, after a while I decided for Artemis, just one stop further away on the S-bahn.
Arrived at 23. 00. This time it was very crowded, white robes everywhere. Some (mostly (jetlagged? ) asians) were sleeping everywhere including the quite noisy bar area.
Again, some circling around to get the picture. Lots of girls also this day, some really good looking. For some strange reason (? ) I ended up in another session with Dagmara, same good experience as the day before. But, this time there was another twist, there was like 30-45 minutes waiting line to the rooms. But that didn't matter as she kept me "warm" all the time, I think I could have waited some more.
After this, I was really tired and left.
(It also showed I had a cold emerging, so I had to cancel a joint visit together with Visual, I hope you got a good time anyway! )
Blue
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Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows!
Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows!
In general the blowjobs are without condom however out of 4 sessions one of the girls did ask if I want one with a condom.
Could you please tell more about pricing for sex in Artemis.
How can you evaluate Artemis in comparison with the Palace in Frankfurt?
I visited Palace once last year and was very satisfied. Now I'm thinking about visiting FKK club in Berlin. May be there are any better FKK clubs than Artemis in Berlin?
Could you please tell more about pricing for sex in Artemis.
How can you evaluate Artemis in comparison with the Palace in Frankfurt?
I visited Palace once last year and was very satisfied. Now I'm thinking about visiting FKK club in Berlin. May be there are any better FKK clubs than Artemis in Berlin?
Information on pricing at this club is to be found under this thread.
Very satisfied at Palace? Then you will be satisfied anywhere.
No, there are no better FKK clubs than this one in Berlin.
Exoticspirit
09-07-08, 23:56
No, there are no better FKK clubs than this one in Berlin.I would be willing to try another FKK club elsewhere especially the ones around the Dusseldorf area. But if I find my way back to Berlin, I think that I would rather check out places like Kamilla Dee and Liberty rather than go back to Artemis.
Basketcase
09-08-08, 01:50
Theme: FKK Artemis girls do blow job without condom
Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows!
Hi Llegy,
I visited Artemis three times over a 4 day visit in August during the holiday season where a lot of the girls I was sent to find or was recommended were not to be found. In the end I tossed my notes and went hunting and fishing using my primal instincts going for what I like and know.
I had 11 sessions over my 3 visits and each session included BBBJ or blow job without condom as standard. I was not asked if I wanted a covered on and only had that at Palace where one girl insisted she blow me with condom as she claimed to have a core in her mouth and did not want to pass on germs. Fair enough, but I would like to have known before agreeing to going to the room.
Go fill your boots and report back here what you found to return something to this group what we helped you with.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers
Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answersObama,
1. there are female bartenders who serve the drinks - not naked though
2. CIM is 50 euros extra. Swallowing is not the norm in my experience. I've only had one girl at an FKK swallow and I was caught by surprise - but this did not cost extra. I've asked others providers and they all declined to swallow but i guess if you offer another 50 euro, some may take it. Not worth it for me though.
3. if you want CIM they will all charge you 50 euros
Oserk Xenn
09-10-08, 22:49
Can anyone compare Artemis and Van Kampen?
It is quite hard to decide where to go?
Or do you say both!
Basketcase
09-11-08, 03:48
Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers
@Obama,
1. There are fully dressed ladies (never seen men) serving drinks in the two bar areas of Artemis. IN saying that, in all the other sauna club and FKK clubs I have only seen women serving drinks. Only exceptions is at Villa Vertigo where I have seen one of the bar's staff by a man and the one PartyTreff that I have been to date.
2. I think you will find and if you follow many of the reports is that the girls do not swallow in every instance or not all. They wil take your load in her mouth for €50 but will discreetly spit it out. If you really want the girl to swallow it and know it then to ensure you do get this service please do discuss your requirements with first with your service provider.
I think in my cases where girls have swallowed it is because of inadvertance. I mean if you take anything in your mouth you can taste it and might swallow a bit - it is natural.
3. I have not come across many instances where you get a normal session plus CIM for €60 or even €50 in NRW and Hessen. I am sure that there are cases but these are rare in my opinion. You do get this all inclusive service in some smaller clubs like Bernds, Ewa's Club and odd girls at PartyTreffs. If you go to these clubs then you are more surer (note not certain) to get the full deal for a basic price.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
Exoticspirit
09-12-08, 04:28
Can anyone compare Artemis and Van Kampen?
It is quite hard to decide where to go?
Or do you say both!Van Kampen is apparently not great with customers who do not speak German sometimes. But otherwise, I heard that it's a great place but it is not a FKK club like Artemis. Therefore, there is no entrance fee to pay at VK. If I was to return to Berlin, I would definitely check out Kamilla Dee and Mon Rouge which apparently will accommodate English speaking folks. I would return to Mona (see Berlin section for my review). Probably wouldn't go back to Artemis but that's just me.
came away from artemis with sores last week. happily not the kind of sores you might possibly be expecting. rather the sort you get when you spend nearly twenty hours sitting on plastic stools and sofas over two days.
i’d started on the wednesday morning with some bad luck. i’d tried to slip in a couple of bordello visits before artemis got going. discovered that the two bulgarian twins gabi and christine at
http://www.mona-kant74.de/galerie.html
who i’d heard would provide guaranteed early day duo fun were not going to be around until mid-afternoon despite my having made a reservation the day before. similar bad luck with a girl at celine69 (no longer on the website, can’t remember her name), and after zipping over to liberty
http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html
i had the much-vaunted cynthia, who was part of the parade i took, snatched away from me at the last second by another punter. i ended up trying steffi, on the dubious grounds that she at least had smiled at me, but she was indeed rather disappointing and expensive, and certainly not up to the standards of a good fkk.
day one artemis
so it was off to westkreuz and the cavernous entrance of the club shortly after midday. i was not expecting that much on the day. it was dessous-tag, which i couldn’t avoid unfortunately, and the line-up and numbers were accordingly modest. the following day, thursday, was by contrast fantastic, hopping. after i was finished around 00.30 a.m. i sat on the sofa having a last alkoholfreies and remember just marvelling at the stream of beauties that filed past me on their rounds. i was relaxed, spent, but in a perfect world could easily have notched up another twenty-five sessions from the talent available. i couldn’t tear myself away, had another beer and promptly missed my train.
unfortunately i was also to discover that there has been no change in the practice of a good number of providers at artemis of limiting the services they offer. but back to the first day, where i had just about the whole range of fkk experiences.
londonbasketcase had kindly gone to great lengths to provide me with information on the girls that he had collected over the past few weeks from various mongering sources and his own experience. i devotedly carried this sheet of info around in my gown pocket for two days, regularly squinting at it short-sightedly in the artemis gloom. thanks a lot, lbc. it was little fucking use. lol. most of the star providers i knew or his list recommended were simply not there. several of the girls confirmed that there has been a sharp turnover the past few weeks. anyone looking for celina would be disappointed, and lizzie, also former oase, was in such a foul mood that i passed.
first choice was
joy, lithuania, about 30
medium height
dark brown short hair
a/b breasts
athletic build, shapely legs
joy keeps herself in good trim, everything’s in the right place. she assured me that she kissed, and indeed did when we were in the room. a session with nothing to complain about and little to get excited about either. i faked the end to keep some stamina for later.
i subsequently investigated the poles, who unsurprisingly make up the largest contingent at artemis. many of them really are good lookers. two groups. the ones who approach you offer the full range of services, with an upselling vengeance. among these was bianca, a blonde bombshell with a gorgeous body, who just wouldn’t take “not yet” or “no” for an answer. she tried six times and i rejected six times. doesn’t it just get tedious? the ones who by contrast don’t approach you but you decide are great candidates on first viewing are equally if not more gorgeous, will enthusiastically confirm “oh yes, you can fuck me immediately, let’s go”, but the subsequent key question reveals the catch: she won’t do this, or won’t so that. special stumbling block was the kissing, as usual. doesn’t that just totally [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off?
having wasted far too much time on these girls i was myself approached by a beguiling romanian girl called christiana, who was curious to know why i was having such a fruitless time with the other girls. clearly an observant young lady. she laughed and stated that i would have no such problems with her unless i wanted anal. i was inclined to believe her. now the third session of the day is the important one. if that one goes well the day usually ends well; if it goes badly the hobby can be in serious danger. so i entrusted my good mood to
christiana, romania, about 25
medium height
dark brown straight long hair
b breasts
great slender body, lovely arse
christiana has an interesting, but not quite beautiful face with very clear smiling eyes. if you had told me she was peruvian-indian, i would have believed you. she was fine. she kissed. hooray. she kissed very well. celebrations. she was an extremely good blowjob practitioner. heart-swelling gratitude. good at sex. how can i get her into my suitcase? i extended to an hour and i can remember well the rhythm we had in 69, as she exactly followed my pace and knew exactly what she had to do. not a hand in sight, and often just light lip and tongue-brushing of little tosc’s tip was enough to keep him hot and firmly at attention. down the other end all was harmonious too, where she is beautifully proportioned with nice spongy labials. it was a damned good session.
there was quite a long pause before my next session. this was partly owing to my need to recover from christiana, partly because i assaulted the late-lunch buffet, but mainly because of these wretched poles. on four separate occasions i angled an approach to one i really fancied, and four times i had to abort on learning that kissing was out. the problem is that you can lose quite a lot of time interviewing them in vain, unless you want to start unsubtly with the “k” question.
what all this propositioning endeavour did allow me to do was experiment with the “nodding” technique, which jackyo and others have been discussing recently. the challenge is how far away can you be and still be able to induce a fair lady with the merest of gestures to break off from whatever she’s doing (and believe me, apart from the inevitable smoking, drinking and chatting, they find a whole variety pursuits, the most entertaining of which is of course scratching their tits) and rush, eager to serve, to your side. i’ve never really thought to develop a method here, but this was a perfect chance. i tried the nod; i tried the smile and nod; i tried the smile followed immediately by the raising of the eyebrows. (i thought about it, but modesty precluded use of the full-bloodied leer accompanied by licking with tongue, and at no point did i reveal anything under the towel). and all from different distances of course. well i was moderately successful, but discovered that the further away i was, the greater the chance that the ugly flabby weightlifter just alongside my intended target would be overjoyed at my interest, and heave her bulk over to my sofa instead. not easy, guys, to get out of that one elegantly. but i did register one triumph, a long distance nod-and-smile to a good-looking and very lively moldavian spinner at the other end of the long bar, although in fairness she did slightly hesitate half way over, either short-sighted or unsure of my intent, but an encouraging pat on the seat next to me fortified her and she was soon beaming her way into my presence. i paced it later, and it measured about 18 metres. how’s that? ok? it was the best i managed. anyway, it was an interesting beginning to a crazy session, with
isabella, moldavia, probably around 20
small, <40kgs
dark long hair
a/b breasts
very slender, great body if you like them very small
she had the talk, she had the walk. a bit wild, but engaging enough. decided to risk it, thinking regie. i was way off.
the problem was that she was really too good. she kissed, and well. she blew, and well. and she had this incredibly tight body, almost impossible to resist even without the great optics. and she wanted to finish me fast. i was in trouble right from the start. i tried all the tricks. went down to daty, so i could cool off, but she wasn’t up for this. took too long. in a hurry. on at least three occasions i withdrew little tosc from the theatre of operations, and each time she was after him again. i protested that i wanted to enjoy her, not just fill her up. all discussions were in vain. the funny thing was that i gradually became convinced that she really believed that this was a measure of her prowess (with the added advantage of course that the session would be over more quickly), but there was nothing truly cynical about her behaviour. as i say, she had a great technique. here i was after two climaxes already on the day in danger of coming after only five minutes. :-) :-) anyway, i gave up and aborted the session unfinished after a quarter of an hour, and sat up to have a real discussion with her. i tried to convince her that what we really want is not what she is giving, and that she could be a star if she could only think it through. she listened, but her comments showed that she really didn’t grasp it. ok, i announced it was shower time, but just asked her at the door what other customers thought. oh, fine, all the turks love her. i could have pissed on the floor.
my next choice was a failure. i’d been watching her all day, undecided, but when she approached me i decided to risk it. she looked fine, and claimed to kiss. and she really was italian, not romano-italian.
clara, italy, early twenties
about 1.65 tall
dark long hair
b breasts
slim body, great arse, everything inviting
if you want to check, she has rather a hooked nose, which with the slightly crinkly hair gives her a jewish air. and if you check, it should be in order to know to avoid her. what she did do well was kissing. so no kissing crunch, but definitely sub-prime performance. her bbbj was simply no good; she couldn’t get the technique right at all, despite a little tuition. and if she falls off the horse at the rodeo as often as she left little tosc behind on her ride in room 17, it would make a sensational video for youtube. in the end i couldn’t really be bothered and spent the rest of the time licking her off in daty. at least i could coordinate it all myself. and she has a fine body, it must be said. as in any profession, just occasionally you come across someone who is absolutely hopeless at his or her job. extraordinary.
one girl who’d been flirting with me for several hours finally corralled me on the sofa directly behind the bar. to be honest i am not sure whether i would have approached her myself. i find these very direct girls a little frightening sometimes :-) :-). it would have been a mistake.
miriam, east germany
over thirty at a guess
about 1.65 tall
medium-length henna-red dyed hair
a/b breasts
another great slim body
i moaned. about the non-kissers. about quick-finishers. about hopeless technicians. she listened dutifully. i wondered whether i was overdoing it, and she later admitted that she had wondered what exactly i was expecting. but neither of us need have worried. she invested the time on the couch, and was rewarded with a session.
miriam is a little domineering, and this was going to be my last session of the day, so i decided to let her take the reins. she was marvellous. started with a heavy-duty oily body-to-body massage with plenty of dry humping and kissing. swung herself round for a divine 69 session. she rode forwards, backwards, every which-way, with perfect control. spoons (lovely handfuls of breast), mish, doggie, all gracefully initiated. as the hour approached its end, she upped the tempo massively and i had a crunching finish in mish. it’s how to do it, a great professional with a smile and the right attitude.
day two artemis
there were many more girls and many more customers the next day, thursday. i arrived around 18.00, and sensed immediately a much more positive atmosphere.
my first encounter was a surprise. there on her barstool, bobbing characteristically to the music, was barbie, known to all the past year at world. i knew who she was, but had never had the pleasure. decided to interview her. she’s a sweet bubbling polish girl, who never has a problem establishing contact. i couldn’t refuse her a session when i established that she had just that minute arrived, knew nothing of the club, not even where the canteen was. so, i had a virgin before me, unfucked in berlin.
barbie, poland
21, i think
1.60 tall
shortish black hair
a/b breasts, naturally a little chunky around the waist
i think it was beffen who concluded that barbie had come a long way during her time at world. i cannot really confirm this, and can only conclude that she has beff’s irresistible superior technique to thank for her apparent progress. either that, or she must have been absolutely bloody hopeless before. :-) she was diligent and obliging, and always smiling of course, but there was little spark with me.
went for the optics next. tall graceful brazilian girl with a gorgeous body and long, long legs, called
luciana, brazil
24-25 years old
1.70 tall
very long smooth brown hair
a/b breasts, flawless skin
not the traditional brazilian with the bubble butt at all, this one is tall, lithe, more the european look except for the somewhat african face. i didn’t start very well. i was so busy admiring the view as i followed her up the spiral stairs, that i tripped on my sandals and fell up the stairs. toscana trying to retrieve his balance and looking foolish, one haughty brazilian looking back in amused disdain, and a couple of other girls laughing at me as they came down the stairs towards me. i finally made it to the room with no further damage. the session was perfectly ok club standard, but again no spark, no inclination on luciana’s part to really get into it. so i spent my half hour exploring her beautiful body with everything at my modest disposal before enjoying the heavy-duty doggie finish in the mirrors. a sight for weary eyes indeed.
it was going to have to be a good choice for third session, and i certainly took my time. there were so many good lookers to choose from. in the end i got involved in a long discussion on the sofa with a sweet hungarian blonde of the impish type, her lovely legs draped over mine just ready to be stroked over the fishnet stockings. she really attracted me. those of you who know eleni from bernd’s/samya will know the type of girl martina is, except that martina is a good bit more attractive.
martina, hungary
30 years
about 1.62 tall
page girl style false blonde, impish face
b breasts, absolutely immaculate body
despite excellent sessions with christiana and miriam, martina was even better. it was a fine finale. she’s one of these providers who loves her job, is serious about wanting to give good service and has the technique to match. i got her to remove the stockings and set eagerly about exploring this wonderful smooth-skinned body. throughout the session she kept returning for more and better kisses, when i would run my hands through her hair. almost romantic, tosc sometimes. and her bbbj is outstanding. she is one of the swirler/plunger sloppy wet operators, everything without hands, and she knows when to lower the tempo when the tension mounts. i again went for the hour, which went by in a flash. i couldn’t bear to live with her because she has this reedy, tinny voice which would drive me crackers, but she will make someone very happy when she’s saved up enough and quits.
all in all a very mixed bag this time at artemis, and i had to be damned patient at times, but when it comes good it’s as good as anywhere and well worth the effort to get there.
Hey Man,
In a word, you're the master. Great read and report, as usual. Although it is heartbreaking to think of Lizzie in a bad mood. Have not seen her in years, but she was always a favorite of mine back in her Oase days.
I think that I fell for this girl Bianca's "charms" on my last visit to Artemis. I seem to recall it being just a ho-hum session. Pretty hot looking though.
Has Barbie really moved up to Berlin from World? If so, I can confirm that not too much was happening there in terms of talented sexual practices. Personally I think she saves all of her best moves for Beffen.
Best session I ever had there was with a Kino romp with a sexy Turkish gal named Ellie. Would not mind at all tappin' that one again.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Basketcase
09-16-08, 22:35
Bianca of Poland:
I think that I fell for this girl Bianca's "charms" on my last visit to Artemis. I seem to recall it being just a ho-hum session. Pretty hot looking though.
The ones who approach you offer the full range of services, with an upselling vengeance. Among these was Bianca, a blonde bombshell with a gorgeous body, who just wouldn’t take “not yet” or “no” for an answer. She tried six times and I rejected six times. Doesn’t it just get tedious?
For my Artemis trip where I visited three times over 4 days (yes one day actually was spent sight seeing - I do like culture as well), I went with Bianca twice - she was my first Artemis girl on my day 1 and also one day 2 as my start of day girl.
I agree with Dedalus and Toscana that Bianca is very pretty and it is hard to resist her blond, blue eyed, long limbed, curvey, beach babe tanned look (well for me it was). She is a hard worker in the sense that she works the room going from customer customer asking for session, as soon as she senses resistance she moves on down the line of customers and then repeats this technique again across just the same line up of customers if not takers wearing you down. I had to give it to her for her eagerness to pick up work from a girl who could get the work on her looks alone.
In the room she did the business but nothing that was amazingly memorable similar to Dedalus' experience. I just liked the visuals and this was why she was a good starter for each day's visit for 2 days. My third day at Artemuis she was not there having returned to Poland for a rest.
It was the image of this gorgeous page 3 model looking girl sucking you in the kino, then later on again in the zimmer as you watched the view looking down or in the mirror beside the bed. Then having covered sex with her in various positions that makes it memorable for me. A nice optifuck.
She did all the basics - kissing, DATY, BBBJ, BLS, covered full sex, massage and was a friendly girl.
She had a great sales technique of feeling you up under your robe, tickling your nipples, stroking your chest, lightly dancing finger tips down your back, and stroking the schwanz and tickling your balls in the main room enticing you for a session.
Thanks,
Londonbasketcase
Bianca is a hard worker in the sense that she works the room going from customer customer asking for session, as soon as she senses resistance she moves on down the line of customers and then repeats this technique again across just the same line up of customers if not takers wearing you down. I had to give it to her for her eagerness to pick up work from a girl who could get the work on her looks alone.Of course we all know girls in any club, where approaching is permitted, who work the room tirelessly. Generally I admire them. Polish Vanessa at Oase (great in the room as well) and Natasha from Belarus at Artemis (less so) come to mind immediately. They also know how to take a friendly rejection gracefully. But some really overdo it, and Bianca is one of them. It was a comment on the service made by LBC on his "list" which fortified me in resisting this really great looking gal.
There is another Artemis girl from Hamburg called Jane who falls into the room worker category. She is very charming too. And sensational to look at. Perfectly straight blonde hair down to the butt, must be 1.80 tall, and everything slender except for the C breasts which looked all natural to me. I didn't go with her, but anyone who doesn't worry about the kissing could land well with her. Must look fantastic in those mirrors. Can't comment on the service of course.
Angus Magee
09-17-08, 16:50
I just want to say excellent report Toscana. It is very readable (entertaining) as well as informative.
Thanks for your effort.
Dear Moderator , I have posted this on the Safe Sex forum as well. Can you please let this stay for a few days on both forums? Thanks.
Hi, I got laid in Artemis FKK in Berlin last Sunday. Had half an hour sessions with 3 different women. I had penetration with a condom with each of them +
Girl 1) some DFK, just a little licking from me (Miriam, East German girl)
Girl 2) just 10 sec of covered BJ (Nora, Bulgarian)
Girl 3) BBBJ without CIM, and some licking action from me. (Patty, Romanian)
After about 22 hrs of this action, i started feeling the slightest of burning sensations at the tip of the penis. And after another 24 hours, a kind of niggling feeling in symmetric regions on both sides of the pubic region - roughly near the joints. The feeling is very similar to what I experienced when I'd caught some urinary infection last year.
For certain reasons, I will find it very tough to consult a doctor for the next four days.
a) I am concerned I could have caught something nasty. But I hope that's not the case because I hardly did anything particularly unsafe
b) Even if it is something not serious, I cannot afford to develop a full blown infection or fever this weekend (am visiting family).
Please advise on both a) and b) and particulary if there are any antibiotics of other medicines I can take to get rid of my symptoms.
Full disclosure: This part of my immune system may not be particulary developed, because this was the first time I had sex (or sexual contact) of any kind.
I will be most grateful. Thanks.
Yes, Toscana, thanks for the report. Funny and well written.
Actually, I've appreciated the sage reporting the from Dedalus, Toscana, London. , and Angus. All excellent. Whenever they report, I read.
I plan to be in Artemis Oct 10.14.
For legit reasons, I've been more of a lurker than a writer, but I've been around enough to be more seasoned now than years back. Been to Artemis before and Palace several times too.
I've learned that tis better to have the benefit of comradery than going solo, so if any senior member types with a philosophical and humorous bent will be in Artemis during the above time span, I'd be interested in a secret handshake in the food room and hanging during the down time/up time.
Recently visiting Berlin for the 2nd time I re-visited Artemis. I realised that as a newbie the first time I probably did not get the full value of my visit, so going back again knowing what to expect was much better.
I only had 4 hours spare due to business meeting schedules so wasted no time with my first choice who sat with me (well actually on me) in the bar where we had a short discussion about her services. Her name was Ella from Russia and she was short brown haired, gorgeous pouting lips and a very lithe body. She was wearing fishnet stockings which were a real turn on.
In the room after having established in the bar that she didn't mind kissing, I actually found out that she loved it. She then moved into BBBJ and as I was in danger of finishing far too early we went back to kissing, DFK, and then DATY.
She really loved this and orgasmed in a BIG BIG way. She then gave me more of BJ and we finished doggy style. I would recommend Ella as a full 10.
After a rest in the sauna and pool area I then went to the kino to get re-aroused and met Martina. We went to one of the rooms behind the kino which was a bit of a turn on in its own right knowing that we could be heard in the back row of the kino. Although the sex was quite good, she was a little too keen on upselling and obviously wanted to rush things when I declined. However she did bring me to a (unusually for me) good end in such a short time.
I am back in Berlin again on 14th October so will definitely visit Artemis again and try to spend a longer time there. I am told that you can return within the 24 hour period without having to pay the entrance fee again so I will have to investigate that and return later in the evening after my meeting.
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Dear Moderator , I have posted this on the Safe Sex forum as well. Can you please let this stay for a few days on both forums? Thanks.
Hi, I got laid in Artemis FKK in Berlin last Sunday. Had half an hour sessions with 3 different women. I had penetration with a condom with each of them +
Girl 1) some DFK, just a little licking from me (Miriam, East German girl)
Girl 2) just 10 sec of covered BJ (Nora, Bulgarian)
Girl 3) BBBJ without CIM, and some licking action from me. (Patty, Romanian)
After about 22 hrs of this action, i started feeling the slightest of burning sensations at the tip of the penis. And after another 24 hours, a kind of niggling feeling in symmetric regions on both sides of the pubic region - roughly near the joints. The feeling is very similar to what I experienced when I'd caught some urinary infection last year.
For certain reasons, I will find it very tough to consult a doctor for the next four days.
a) I am concerned I could have caught something nasty. But I hope that's not the case because I hardly did anything particularly unsafe
b) Even if it is something not serious, I cannot afford to develop a full blown infection or fever this weekend (am visiting family).
Please advise on both a) and b) and particulary if there are any antibiotics of other medicines I can take to get rid of my symptoms.
Full disclosure: This part of my immune system may not be particulary developed, because this was the first time I had sex (or sexual contact) of any kind.
I will be most grateful. Thanks.Hey, I remember that the first time I had sex--and that too unprotected--I had more or less the same symptoms. I think that since you have never had sex your body and yu are alert to the smallest of changes. So you notice things that you prbly don't notice usually.
Oserk Xenn
09-26-08, 23:07
Last week I was on a business trip to Berlin and I used all the information that I got from this post. So I would like to thank to all reporters and now it was my turn to give some information.
First of all, If you are in Berlin and looking for some fun with a high quality and If you choose something very hardly do not attempt to look for something anywhere else. You will surely face with frustruation. Mona, Van kampen, Nina, Liberty, La Folie, Go to Artemis, do not mind price, time etc. It is worth it. So thanks to my Turkish colleagues in Artemis who brought heaven on earth.
There are two points that I did not like; food is not so good (in fact you don't even need to eat), and showering with cocks around does not look so good after having perfect time with beauties upstairs.
I got 5 girls in 2 visits (once a duo at a time).
1. I got two Polish girls, do not remember names. In fact I did not know that they wee Polish but I think I got used to them after so many visits to Poland. When I choose a girl in such a place I suddenly realize that she is Polish. There is some magic attracting me to them. Experience with two girls was perfect, we had every possible thing that can be done. 10/10.
2.I got a Hungarian girl, was not as good as the previous experience. 7/10
Second day.
3.Another Polish girl. I chose her without knowing her nationality. Short brown hair, blue eyes, georgeous white body. 10+/10.
4.An Italian girl named Katia, black long hair,green eyes. Don't ask why I remember only her name she made me remember this and I think I will never forget. She sits with another Italian girl Rafaella (blond). Both very lovely funny girls.
As a result, all the girls are friendly, 20% looks good to my average. Those 5 above were in that %20 of course. All the five above were slim, average tall, nice body, very kind, friendly girls with natural, model look bodies.
Two things happened when we were there;
A discussion between two men (nothing important, bodyguards came suddenly)
An arabic guy did something bad to a girl (could not learn from the girls what happened) so all the girls in club refused to go with him. He was asking each girl for many many times but the answer was no. That was a shame and pity of him but when you ask the girls he deserved this attitude.
The girls have a right to choose so be a gentlemen when you are there!!
Next months I will be in Berlin a few more times and I will report here again.
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Michael Stone
09-29-08, 01:13
I'm back from my another business trip to Germany. This time I was in Berlin and of course couldn't miss an occasion to visit Artemis. It was on Thursday. I tried to rush my things up because I knew that there were some fairs taking place in Berlin Messe, so I wanted to get to the club as soon as possible.
I took a S-bahn train to Westkreuz. It's only one exit from the station, so there were no problems to find the right way. After getting to Halenseestraße, you have to go left and after about 200-300 meters you see the Artemis building on your left. I got there at about 4PM. Paid 70E, got my bathrobe, took a shower and entered the heaven.
I took a quick walk round main lounge, found it too smoked, with maybe 15 girls and the same number of guys. Went downstairs and found quieter place at the sofa near the bar. I'm still quite nervous when I'm visiting FKK, this was my second time after ColA. When I tried to calm down, I got approached by I couple of girls, who I turned down, partly because it was too early for me, and partly because they weren't top class.
After some time and a coffee I started to explore more closely what is on offer. And I must say that I was a bit disapointed because both the number of girls and quality was not satisfactory. It was a bit below ColA standard. Anyway, there were still some cuties worth a try. Unfortunataly most of them turned out to be Polish and I settled non-Polish day for myself. That was because I have them at home. Anyway, I had a lot of girls to talk with (almost all girls speak English anyway). They told me that later there will be more girls.
I found myself place in main lounge and sipping cola I observed what was going on around. Sequentially was approached by girls. One of them, Slovak (forgot her name), beautiful, long dark hair, quite tall, turned to be my first this evening. After a little conversation we went upstairs. The room was OK, but it was pity that there were only one mirror, which I like very much. Standard session (if I can say what is standard after 3 sessions at FKKs). DFK, BBBJ, cowgirl, missionary, doggy. Very nice girl, done everything I wanted, BJ a bit delicate, but it was a lot of fun to watch such a beautiful girl with my little in her mouth. I was satisfied and started to think that it is normal that girls at FKK give good services. Well, future will show.
So, I needed a rest. Went downstairs and utilised a pool and sofas. At 6PM they opened a dining room, so I went to eat something. Food was OK. Having in mind that I will stay at the club till closing, I thought that I can go outside and return to the club later. (I decided not to book a hotel, because next morning I was going home, so I saved some money and had more for the girls). So I did. Walked around the city and returned to Artemis around 10PM.
Well, it was much crowded, both with customer and service providers. Quality of them was also higher. I think that I saw many 9's and some 10's. I got happy! Also I saw 3 black girl, who I always hoped to meet. There were also 3 or 4 Asian girls, maybe 12 Polish girls, many Russians and probably many other nationalities.
My next choice was petite Brazilian girl, again forgot her name. Long curly hair, very slim and short, she had a tattoo on her left part of her back showing woman with a long neck and burning head. She said she got it when she was 16 and found it funny at that time. She got married with German man and started to work there when they divorced. She was very nice with me on a sofa, so we headed to the room. When we left we saw couples waiting for the rooms, so she told me that we can go downstairs, there were rooms next to the Kino. When we got there, we also saw couples waiting for their turn in the rooms. When we got to the kino, it also was occupied by 3 couples which were having blow jobs or normal intercourse in public. It was amazing! When one raw of seats got free, my girl told me to take it, so we did, but I told her that want to wait for a room. She was OK with that, but she started to kiss an caress me and giving me hand job. I had to stop her because she would have finish me there! Anyway, I had wonderful time waiting for the room and also when we finally got one. It was small, without the door, only a curtain. We could hear noises of love from other rooms. It's one wall was totally covered with a mirror, so I liked it a lot. My Brazilian turned out to be very passionate lover. I had some problem to cum, but she insisted to finished me, which we finally succeeded. After I finished inside her (in condom of course), she didn't want to let me out, and she acted as if it was pleasant for her to have me inside. So I got a suspicion that she will try to sell me an hour instead of half (The total time was about 45 min. Since she started to kiss me in Kino). But nothing like this happened! She was very nice to the end and I was happy to make my wallet lighter of 60E.
It was still young night and I had money left for another 2 sessions, but I got an idea to try to have some sleep downstairs. It turned out that some other fellas had the same idea but still one sofa was free. At that time, girl weren't frequent visitors there, and even if they were coming downstairs, they didn't approached guys who were obvious to want a rest.
I got asleep easily and woke up a bit later than I expected, at 3AM!
There were not so many guys and girls, but still a lot. Some girls were performing pole dancing. I found myself some comfy place and enjoyed the view. Although I still had my money for sessions, I didn't feel a need to go to a room, so I decided not to session any more, and have good memories of what I had before. Anyway, I noticed that multiple sessions make me forget the earlier ones quite soon, so I'm not sure that they are so good.
I went to the locker room around 4AM. On my way I met another Polish girl, very young, with nice body and a face of an angel (that was what I thought when I saw her) and I got very eager to ask her to go to the room with me. Unfortunately she was talking to a couple of guys and finally she left with one of them. I was disappointed, but also very happy to visit this club.
A few words of disappointments;)
I'm sorry that I didn't session with:
- any black girl,
- maybe 3 polish girls, who were total 10s,
- russian girl with very big breasts (up to now I only had little girls) and quite nice, slim figure for such breasts,
- and maybe some 12 other service providers;)
Now I try to find a business reason to go to Berlin again. Hope to find it soon!
Regards to all
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Great newbie post, dude, however, if you don't take down names the information isn't very helpful to those of us planning trips there.
Michael Stone
09-29-08, 09:40
Great newbie post, dude, however, if you don't take down names the information isn't very helpful to those of us planning trips there.Thanx and yes, I will have to have a pen and piece of paper with me next time, my memory doesn't serve me good, although I'm still quite young.
Brazilian, however, is quite easy to spot by her tattoo.
Hi,
I will be going to Artemis later this week. My first FKK ever.
I promise a detailed report.
Can I bring my own condoms? There is a thin one that I really love......a German one.
Let me know,
Cheers
Modertor: I apologise if this is a double psting. My screen went blank and I am not sure if the earlier post worked. Did not see it online.
Hi,
I will be going to Artemis later this week. My first FKK ever.
I promise a detailed report.
Can I bring my own condoms? There is a thin one that I really love......a German one.
Let me know,
Cheers
Modertor: I apologise if this is a double psting. My screen went blank and I am not sure if the earlier post worked. Did not see it online.Roger,
I've been bringing my own condoms and most of the girls will be OK with using them as long as its a brand they recognize. Durex seems to be the preferred brand when i bring multiple brands.
Some girls will not use customer provided condoms. Others may not do so for new customers.
Sunstar777
09-30-08, 13:05
A very up to date report preferably with names would be very useful as in 4 weeks it s gonna be my turn for my 1st ever trip to Berlin and my first ever visit to an FKK. Planning to stay there most of the day with my friends and be with 3-4 girls approx. Would be nice if u could report in general if girls do kiss in their majority there as I like DFK in situations of the sort.
Angus Magee
09-30-08, 16:17
Hi,
I will be going to Artemis later this week. My first FKK ever.
I promise a detailed report.
Can I bring my own condoms? There is a thin one that I really love......a German one.
Let me know,
Cheers
Modertor: I apologise if this is a double psting. My screen went blank and I am not sure if the earlier post worked. Did not see it online.I am not sure if Artemis has a policy on self brought condoms but in my experience most ladies (not specific to Artemis where I have yet to go) will let you use a condom of choice.
The only time I was refused was at Freudenhaus where I was told that the house insisted they use the condom provided. I have also had ladies insist, when I use a condom I bring, that I then take the condom she was providing with me. I guess this was to make it not seem that she was providing bbfs.
I would also suggest that you give the condom fully wrapped to the girl to let her see that it is untampered with.
Frenchieboy
09-30-08, 19:42
A very up to date report preferably with names would be very useful as in 4 weeks it s gonna be my turn for my 1st ever trip to Berlin and my first ever visit to an FKK. Planning to stay there most of the day with my friends and be with 3-4 girls approx. Would be nice if u could report in general if girls do kiss in their majority there as I like DFK in situations of the sort.I will be in Artemis in about 10 days, most of you like DFK (me too) but do you think that it"s very clean to kiss a girl if you can imagine that maybe, 1 or 2 hours before she has sucked many and many dicks and she is OK for OWO and CIM. For me I prefer closed my mouth.
Sunstar777
10-01-08, 00:40
Thinkin about it its true mate, however I feel kissing adds an extra level to the experience. Well, hope the girls brush their teeth after each round. Enjoy your stay in Berlin mon ami.
As I recently went to Berlin I couldn’t avoid to test the Artemis autumn collection and give a report to my fellows.
Being a analytic brain (related to my brain, I wonder whether I should use the present or the past), I will divide the discussion between general and specific, and more interesting, impressions.
Well, first of all, let’s speak of the overall impression about girls. They are always divided in two categories: sharks girls (aka great workers, patrolling girls, "hey boy, want to have good sex with me, btw what’s your name? ") and "polite" girls (assuming that polite means they always smoke and drink at the lounge preferring a milder approach lasting no more than two minutes). Everyone has fallen sometimes in the net of the sharks and rarely remembers it with satisfaction. BTW I noticed a less number of sharks (natural selections, orders of the boss? ).
The worst hour to hook up is 6, 00 p. M. At that hour girls dramatically disappear to feed their stomach as they’d never eaten before. Artemis remains empty. Don’t worry: later these well feeded girls seem to have a better attitude in emptyng our wallets.
I had a two days session with 5 girls:
FIRST DAY
After the usual recognition I choose Demi . She was sitting at the lounge and I smiled to her from a sofa. Few words and then upstairs
Demi
1,70, 23-25 y.o. Romanian from Bucarest
Long black straight hairs
Enhanced C boobs. Great slim body.
Giving an overall judgement on her is very difficult.
An average BBJ. She is in the category “don’t touch my hair, don’t touch my neck, don’t change my rhythm”, but she also performs an acceptable deep throat attitude, which increases the rate. She had the very annoying habit to frequently glance her positions at the mirror, pausing her jobs for a while, as she was a porno actress.
While on mish no DFK, no long kiss on her body allowed. But while on doggy, an outstanding sensation for mounting such an stunning beauty, enhanced by the very deep penetration she allowed me keeping her arse in a perfect angle.
Rates:
Body 9,5/10
Face 8/10
GFE 5/10
Repeat: yes if visual effects are important
Leaving out the sauna, the swimming pool time and the acceptable dinner (we are not looking for a “relais&chateaux” experience), my next choice was Martina. I had a session with her in the past and I recalled her GFE attitude. I needed it after Demi.
Toscana perfectly described her
Martina, Hungary
"30 y.o.
About 1.62 tall
Page girl style false blonde, impish face
B breasts, absolutely immaculate body"
Her very very very best picture: http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php
IMHO good GFE experience, before, during and after the session. She is a real serious provider, taking a professional care of the client satisfaction. A sufficient to acceptable BBJ. Good fucking, but in both mish and doggy position she didn’t allowed a very deep penetration. While on mish she kept narrowed legs, while on doggy she had a lowered arse.
Her oil massage after sex is an add on never reported before. Very relaxing indeed.
Rates:
Body 7/10
Face 6,5/10
GFE 8/10
Repeat: yes if you feel alone.
After the proper resting time, before quitting, my last choice was Mimi
Mimi,
1,60, 27–30 y.o., Thai from Singapore
Brown hairs. Typical Asiatic body and face, short legs.
She was nice and intriguing. She also smiled a lot, with the typical oriental hysteric tone. And then she performed a fantastic BBJ. She sucked, licked, kissed, tongued and bited whatever she found between my pubes and my anus. Cumming in her mouth was mandatory. An extremely good choice to invest my 110 E
Rates:
Body: 7/10
Face: 6.5/10
GFE 7/10
Repeat: whenever a good BBJ is requested.
Second day will follow as soon as possible.
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Thinkin about it its true mate, however I feel kissing adds an extra level to the experience. Well, hope the girls brush their teeth after each round. Enjoy your stay in Berlin mon ami.
No, I don't mean Peanut Butter.
If they don't brush between BJs, they end up with PB or Penis Breath.
You can smell the previous customers dick in her breath.
An ex-girlfriend of mine always used this expression after blowing my dick.
SECOND DAY
My second day in Artemis began after a very tiring working day. But I accept it as a rule: we earn money with work and we waste money with girls.
In this second day I had the opportunity to evaluate the overall population of girls, as it was a less crowded day. I realised the great turnover that took place from my last visit last spring. More than 90% of the girls were new. Percentage: 20% stunning girls, 70% on average, 10% nearly sufficient. Let’s speak of shaved pussy: nearly 100% shaved. Blond and dark girls were equally represented. Percentage of silicon enhanced boobs strongly increased ( our banknotes quietly fly from our pocket to the girls safes, than later from their pockets to the plastic surgeon. That’s capitalistic economy, dudes ).
As I arrived I was kindly approached by Clara, an Italo-Romanian girl. I told her honestly I wanted to relax before having sex, so she couln’t waste her time. Surprisingly, no matter how, she chatted with me kindly for ten minutes more before quitting.
Obviously, after a drink and a sauna, I reached her on the lounge putting my hand on her arse and telling her I was ready. Again, surprisingly, she led me to a sofa where we chatted, had a drink and a sigarette very softly. I was obliged to ask her frankly to go upstair.
Clara
Perfectly described by Toscana, which I strongly recommend for his detailed and true reports.
“Clara, Italy, early twenties
About 1.65 tall
Dark long hair
B breasts
Slim body, great arse, everything inviting
If you want to check, she has rather a hooked nose, which with the slightly crinkly hair gives her a Jewish air”
I also agree with Toscana for her great DFK attitudes. Great kisses. Sufficient to good BBJ.
But I must disagree for the rest.
I was allowed to deep fingering her pussy and she definetly liked it.
While on mish she did her job honesly, moaning in the right way. But on doggy she was stellar.
I took my time to reach my orgasm and while approaching it she began to pace her moanings and, mostly, her pussy contractions on my movements. She really sucked my cock with her pussy. The result was a incredibly long and deep orgasm. Raising myself later from the bed I felt my legs nearly trembling. One of the greatest experience with providers ever had (related to doggy).
Rates.
Body 8/10 ( could be twin with Debbie, but not so stunning)
Face 7/10
GFE 8/10
Repeat: yes
After such an experience I longly took care of me: an extra-long sauna, the swimming pool, than again the 90° sauna, than rested in the downstairs longe. Later I dined.
While relaxing on the main lounge after dinner I was twice approached by Bianca, a well known provider in Artemis. I refused her.
In that period I was hunting a very stunning girl, 1,70, dark blond long hairs, smooth but curled at the bottom, fishnet stockings, tanned athletic body. Sadly I had no session with her as when I was still recovering she was free but when ready she was working. My call to the philosophy of this forum which is sharing experience: this time I ask you related informations, if any, as I’m planning another visit in this late October and I’m looking forward fucking her.
Aroused but doubtful, I was ready to do my mistake: while on the downstair kino I allowed to be approached by Jane.
As I told you before, Toscana is a very trustworthy collegue, so I report his description, which I totally agree:
Jane
“There is another Artemis girl from Hamburg called Jane who falls into the room worker category. She is very charming too. And sensational to look at. Perfectly straight blonde hair down to the butt, must be 1.80 tall, and everything slender except for the C breasts which looked all natural to me. I didn't go with her, but anyone who doesn't worry about the kissing could land well with her. Must look fantastic in those mirrors. Can't comment on the service of course”.
In the room downstairs, protected by the curtain, she did her best to earn the money, but sucking my cock was a failure. She was really stunning but cold. A freezen stockfish gives you more. While working on my dick (she is another girl: ”don’t touch my neck, don’t touch my hairs, I pace the rhythm”) she even told me she couln’t go deeper due to my hairs (…!). Probably all the men from Hamburg have shaved pubes. I couln’t be aroused totally in such a situation, although in the mirrors was superlative. While approaching the time to quit, I even perceived her subtle disappointment as she couln’t earn 110E. Opinions may vary: IMHO she performed a mechanical and cold BBJ, could even say awful. Her opinion is probably different.
Rates:
Body 9,5/10
Face 9/10 ( a teen face over an outstanding body)
GFE 5/10 ( her deepest thought was: “oh, don’t worry, it happens”)
Repeat: yes if you are filled up with stamina and you don’t care of anything else.
Midnight was in few minutes and the day after was another hard working day. As the girl I was dreaming up had just been approached I got bored and decided to give up and reached the hotel with the usual Turkish taxi.
To the next
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Friday is a holiday in Germany so will head to Artemis - I normally go on Saturdays. Anyone else heading there? Would like to meet up with with some ISG brothers.
-I arrived at La Folie at 2:00am. It had been about two years since my last visit. Did the locker room change and got undressed. The towels they provided this time were a bit bigger than my last visit.
Feeling very comfortable I looked around. The place was empty and the selection of girls were slim but all you need is one. The pole dancer looked like Bridget Bardot. She was 24 married to a 51 year old man. I smiled and she approached me and took me to the room overlooking the stairs. The room had a one way mirror overlooking the stairs( I hope) She was amazing, blond, wet and smelled like hot sex . The sucked, wanted to be sucked , mounted and wrapper her legs around me like an real girl fiend.
If any one can tell me her name ,thanks. I can still remember the smell of sex and I would like to match the name to the experience
I had spent from 4-6 that afternoon and the night before at Artimas. Although I enjoyed my time at Artimas the 2 hours spent at La Folie with the Blond pole dance was the best sex I had in Berlin.
Devilspinkick
10-05-08, 05:57
Howdy,
I plan to get back to Artemis in about a week from now. I've been to Artemis a few times before and it's one of my favorite FKKs. However, I've never been there on a Sunday before. I'm sure it's more mellow than on Fridays & Saturdays, but is there still a good selection of honeys to choose from?
Just wondering, but I'll be there none-the-less.
DSK
-I arrived at La Folie at 2:00am. It had been about two years since my last visit. Did the locker room change and got undressed. The towels they provided this time were a bit bigger than my last visit.
Feeling very comfortable I looked around. The place was empty and the selection of girls were slim but all you need is one. The pole dancer looked like Bridget Bardot. She was 24 married to a 51 year old man. I smiled and she approached me and took me to the room overlooking the stairs. The room had a one way mirror overlooking the stairs( I hope) She was amazing, blond, wet and smelled like hot sex . The sucked, wanted to be sucked , mounted and wrapper her legs around me like an real girl fiend.
If any one can tell me her name ,thanks. I can still remember the smell of sex and I would like to match the name to the experience
I had spent from 4-6 that afternoon and the night before at Artimas. Although I enjoyed my time at Artimas the 2 hours spent at La Folie with the Blond pole dance was the best sex I had in Berlin.
When I used to go to La Folie, years ago, there were some of the prettiest girls I have ever seen. However, the seating always made it difficult to talk to the girls. Plus, my limited German did not help. Now that I look back upon the early days of the clubs (including Atlantis) I realize how small they are when you compare them to the clubs today. Still, I have very romantic feeling about those earlier times.
Howdy,
However, I've never been there on a Sunday before. I'm sure it's more mellow than on Fridays & Saturdays, but is there still a good selection of honeys to choose from?
Just wondering, but I'll be there none-the-less.
DSK
You probably should not worry too much unless you're really picky for any reason. Germans fuck anytime ;-) I think this tendency of girls picking Sunday for their day off is more noticable far more south in Europe.
Devilspinkick
10-10-08, 17:29
I appreciate the input. I am (IMO) quite picky, but I've always had good luck at Artemis in past visits. I agree that horny Germans don't get hung up on the whole ''Sunday'' thing the way they do in the Mediterranean. I'm in Barcelona at the moment. Can't wait to get to Berlin. There are some hot mommas here in Spain. Too bad they don't have FKK type of establishments here.
May post a review of my two upcomming trips to Artemis (ie. , Sunday and Tuesday I reckon).
DSK
Too bad they don't have FKK type of establishments here.DSK
Isn't all the clubs outside Barcelona (and many other Spanish cities for that matter) more or less the same as German FKK's?
Forget about "method of payment" and other details, but fundamentally it's all about the same i.e. good selection of high quality pussy at low cost.
Devilspinkick
10-11-08, 12:52
Ugga Bugga!
I have to say that I'm yet to find anything that resembles an FKK in Spain, and I've been to quite a few cities here (Madrid, Malaga, Seville, etc.). Sure they have ''casas'' and plenty of nightclubs, but not wonderful establishments like FKKs were the ladies are walking around butt naked. If anyone knows of such a place in BCN then let me know ASAP because this is my last night in BCN.
It's also been my experience that clubs in BCN like to gouge you with overpriced drinks (I hate that). In German FKKs the drinks are either free or cost very little. Of course in most FKKs the drinks are non-alcoholic.
The casas are boring places were you just walk in, fuck, and walk out. A one hour affair at the max. At the FKKs I can spend an entire evening hanging out. And I usually do.
I also hate that most casas in Spain are difficult to find even if your Spanish is good (not me). You have to find the address and then figure out what number to buzz. It's a pain in the arse. I like how the FKKs have big signs lit-up proclaiming proudly ''Horny guys! The *****s are in here! ''
Just my take on it. None the less, I've had a good time in Spain mostly doing touristy stuff. The weather has been good.
Think I might visit Riviera tonight (thanks for the map guys). I'll arrive in Berlin tomorrow.
DSK
Ok got you. Think these are details of academic nature though. Just imagine how Germay and Spain play in a complete different leauge compared to the rest of at least western Europe. What I'm really after, it's a pity complaining when you're in heaven anyway.
BTW I'm talking chica's and not football!
back at artemis after not visiting since december 07. then, was blown away by the myriad beauties from poland, hungary, czech, baltics, etc.
last night was first time back. i noticed a drop-off in the looks department from previous visits, but still managed to have a good time, albeit, this is the first time i have been at an fkk where the number of guys in silly white robes, doubled or even tripled the gals. a sea of round white is not a good sign.
i am admittedly picky, so i may be unfair, but there were only maybe 6 gals i saw last night who i would have wanted to be with. add in personality, or the requisite positive demeanor and it was probably 4.
here’s who i saw. samira, from slovakia and jana from germany.
first, samira. positives: beautiful, tall, dark, dark hair, non-rushed, sat with me without pushing for a room for 20 minutes, i asked her to the room, otherwise, she might have sat and cuddled for many more minutes. very nice relaxing cuddling. negatives: i do not speak much german and no slovakian. positives: she tried to communicate and kept trying. a good sign and worth a mile in the cross cultural communication department. nice smile and laughs at herself. i gave her a back rub in the room, which i think she appreciated and helped break the ice, but the physical aspect was missing some heat and it was not roman fireworks. a sweet girl to be sure, but not sure i would repeat. we’ll see, but she was genuine and sweet. i then recovered by spending some time in the sauna and went back to the field.
i waited about an hour, and as each minute ticked, i wondered if artemis was losing its luster, no pun intended. i changed location several times. there was a brunette looker dancing near and on the pole stage with a bleach blonde friend who was a real beauty, pierced nose and above her lip far to the side, but i never saw her go with a guy the 4 hours i was there. i don’t know who she is, but i did not want to approach her as she seemed to be like the hottest chic in high school who only went after the guys who were dicks. anyone know who she is?
i moved again, circling like a plane in a holding pattern, and then spotted a gal i had not seen all night. she looked like my type. lithe, demure, yet confident, sitting on the round couch without the curtains adjacent the pole stage in the room nearest the food room. i was still too far away to be absolutely certain at what i saw, but i briefly glanced at her and bright blue eyes peered outward through strawberry blonde hair. i looked down as my glance shifted without fixating in a rude, lurid way and i noticed that she was fit, all natural, with nary an ounce of body fat.
i said what the heck, there is no one else here i am interested tonight. and just went up to her and sat down, introducing myself. she was inviting, and as i sat down and looked in her eyes, i noticed, whoah, she is a lot hotter up close. she told me her name was jana, and that she was from germany. i have heard mixed reviews of the german gals working the clubs, i. e. some are cold, whereas some are very professional and fun. i tried to size her up. she was very natural, easy going and seductive. inviting, by letting her hair or breast rub against me but nothing obnoxious. the more i spent time with her, the more i realized that in my book, she was very hot in the looks department and she was a cool person. so up we went, and as she stood up, she was a lot taller than i expected. and she held my hand and as we walked the gauntlet of saturday night white.
without going into graphic detail, this woman was a sexual dynamo, long wet french kisses, one of the best i have ever had. vocal, erotic, took initiative, talked to me, moaned at all the right times. she was wet inside without any assistance. whoah. what a woman. restored my hope in the place. she doesn’t work every day, and i don’t know how selective she is, but she’s a real keeper & deserves as all the gals do, to be treated well and with respect. she rocked my world, one of the best sexual experiences of my life.
so here’s my data:
samira, slovakian
tall, fit, but big boned,
face: 8.5
body: 8
performance: 6.5
attitude: 8.5 – 9
jana
tall, super fit, lithe….runway potential except for a missing tooth
face: 9.5
body: 9.5
performance: 10
attitude: 10
went back to artemis tonight. plan to go back monday or tuesday this week. report later.
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Devilspinkick
10-16-08, 22:43
Would have posted sooner, but I've been flying around a lot. Just arrived back in the San Francisco Bay last night.
After spending a few days in Spain I finally arrived back in Berlin. And my first order of business after checking into the hotel was to head straight to Artemis. I got there around 6PM this past Sunday. The lady at the front desk wasn't as friendly as usual, but what can you say? I spied some cute blondes as I made my way to the locker room were a couple of black American dudes were being loud and obnoxious. Referring to the ladies as "bitches". Very crass.
Got changed and decided to do a walk of the place. For a Sunday there were quite a few people. I would say the average looks of the women were about a 6. 5. The ratio of guys to gals was about 1:1, so the handful of really hot chicks got snatched up very quickly. I'm rather picky and was just taking in the scene while turing away the average gals that came up to me.
This one lady name "Dominica" approached me and though not hot. She was easy on the eyes. Short Polish gal with short blonde hair. Small tits. Little butt. She turned out to be not so good in the room. When (after only 15 mins) she's demanding that I hurry up and come. I call it quits and cut my losses. Hey. It's just part of the game.
I pumped some iron in their little weight room to get my muscles worked up and then splashed around in the pool. While heading back up the stairs to the main bar area, a pretty Romanian gal named "Estelle" blocked my path and asked me if I wanted to go to a room with her. She was medium height with long black hair. Nice boobs & butt. I decided to take her up on the offer and she turned out to be pretty good. The only caveat is that she tried hard to get me extend to an hour. I only do that if the lady is GREAT. She was good. But not great. Gave her a little extra for a tip.
By this time it was past 11PM and I felt that I still had some juice left in me so after relaxing for a while I made my way back to the main bar. It was quite festive with still quite a few people and a gal swinging on the pole.
Anyway. There was a Polish lady who had been turning heads all night. She approached me earlier but I said "maybe later". It was now around midnight and when she came up to me again I just couldn't say no. Her name was Katia (sp? ) and she was tall with straight, light brown hair. Magnificent pair of bolt-ons. Nice butt. Overall a hot bod. She was good in the sack. Very energetic. Best of the three by far. Wish I had gone with her earlier. My experiences got increasingly better with each lady. Overall a pretty good night.
By this time it was past 1AM and I needed to get some rest (planned to do some touristy stuff the next day). There was a blond from Russia and and dark-skinned gal from Lithuanian whom I had turned down. In hindsight; both seemed like they would have been good and I wish I had tried them out. That's life. No? Maybe next time.
I also saw a couple of Brasileiras at the establishment. Was interested in trying one of them out when I returned the following Tuesday.
DSK
Devilspinkick
10-16-08, 22:47
I got up in the morning to visit the local Beate Uhse store and fill my belly at a Thai restaurant near the Zoologisher Garten. Then hopped on the S-9 to Westkreuz.
Walked through the doors of Artemis around 1PM. At that time there were far more women then men (I like those odds) and I immediately saw some different faces. In fact as I was changing clothes a very pretty Asian lady walked into the locker area, smiled and said "Hi! " (to me). Didn't see her there last Sunday. I replied in kind and said that maybe I'd see her later. After changing I made my rounds of the place. The place was low-key, but there was enough cuties to look at to keep me interested.
In the main bar I saw the Asian chick lounging on one of the couches. I took a few sips of apple cola and went over to talk to her. She said her name was Gunya and she was from Bangkok. She had a petite, toned body. Cute little butt. She said she only worked at Artemis once a week to have some extra spending money. We agreed to go upstairs and I must say she was quite the dynamo. She really got into the sex and at one point she reached orgasm while bouncing on top of me. She said something in German which I think was "My god. I've come on your banana! "
After having fun with Gunya. I got cleaned up and relaxed around the pool area to recharge. Around 3PM I made my way back to the main bar.
Another new face caught my eye and after some eye contact I approached a lady who called herself "Channelle". She had an average face at best but a slim body with nice fake boobs and cool tats. Long, curly brown hair. Pretty ass. She was a Berliner! Communication was a bit of a problem because she spoke only German and I don't speak it so well. Regardless, we agreed to head to a room and speak the universal language. She turned out to be very passionate as well with a lot of kissing and such. She climaxed at least once for sure. Two GFE-type experiences. At an FKK? This day was going well.
I spent 40 minutes lifting weights in the fitness studio to get the blood good and pumping; afterwards got cleaned up and made my rounds.
It was now around 6:30PM & it was getting a bit livelier. More ladies had arrived. Some I'd seen on Sunday and some I hadn't. There was a group of 4 rather attractive blonds hanging out on a couch (yes, in the main bar again). One that really caught my eye was a tall, thin, blond (not likely natural). She turned towards me a couple of times, but I was just scanning the room.
I eventually plopped down on a couch and was just chilling out, not paying particular attention to anyone. When out of no where I feel the soft body of a female pressed up against my head and a voice says "How are you doing? ". I look back and it's the thin blond gal stretched out on top of the couch and looking down at me. From afar she was attractive. Up close she was downright gorgeous. Very pretty face, baby blue eyes, and the kind of body I like (thin but shapely). She had some very prominent tattoos. I must say I find a few tats on a lady to be a turn on, don't know why.
Her name was "Roxanne" and she said she was a Russian/Greek mix. She said that her friends call her Paris because of her resemblance to Paris Hilton. In reality her skin is much darker and IMO she has a better body than Ms. Hilton. She also made it very clear that she loved black men (which I happen to be). She initiated kissing on the couch. Well I wasn't about to pass up this beauty. So of course we headed to a room.
We talked quite a bit and apparently she works the entire German FKK circuit. She rotates through Oase, Palace, World, Artemis, and others on a regular basis. She's also done work in Amsterdam & Japan on occasion. She claimed to not speak much English; truthfully her English is better than most Americans.
Whether she really likes black guys or not, all I know is that she started off with passionate french kissing and it only got better from there. The sex was hot and heavy and I admit I lost track of time. It was definitely more than the allotted 30 mins. When we were both spent, we chatted for a few minutes and she asked me to marry her a few times. Of course I didn't take that seriously and the fact is I'm not a "one woman" type of guy. Told her as much. If I was a guy of weaker constitution I would have considered it based on her looks alone. She asked if she could take a nude photo of me to add to her collection/data base. I figured why not? Wouldn't be the first time. Paid her €120 because the time was certainly closer to an hour.
After all the action I got cleaned up and grabbed a bite to eat at the on site restaurant. By now it was approaching 9PM and though I would have liked to go one more round, I needed to get packed up and catch and early morning flight to Moscow. I'll be sure to give myself more time next trip.
Three great experiences in a row, what a day! Can't wait to return to this wonderful city and visit Artemis again. Need to check out some other nightlife options as well. However, I won't come back to Germany until next spring at the earliest. In the meantime, I'll have to settle for locales such as Brazil & the Philippines. How will I ever manage?
DSK
Hi Dudes,
If you'll appologize, I'll skip the usual stuff around the facilities as to be read elsewhere on this thread. But sure it's a nice place, and I arrived around nine on a Sunday.
Plenty to choose from as usual, but I was badly planned for what to focus on in this event. I usually decide in advance for skinny/fat, tall/short blonde/black, bimbo/latin or whatever my stereoids tell for the day. (plus tattoos and piercing goes well in all shapes/forms)
Personally I think it's a big shame not more of you guys takes the advantge of the opportunity to "half" public sex. Let's go that not everyone get the same kick out of this as me, but every time I'm into it, there's plenty of spectators (even sp's maybe thinking there's easy bite around). So this MUST be something around shyness or whatever kind'a odd in a place like that.
When approached in front of the main bar (where I usually fancy sitting) (and obviously if they gone through my chemistry filter) I'll normally offer the "buy" if they'll service at the spot. Till this day, none of them has accepted so I usually end up in the Kino which is ok as well.
Last Sunday we where three couples shaggi'n in the upper Kino at the same time, and then there was as narrow in the doorway as in the bank buying Icelandic currencies.
(sorry for typoooos, this latency kills me)
Tall Russian, long black hair, huge ass and big tits, very friendly, surprisingly firm and very encouraging.........go and buy, as my US stockbroker keeps telling these days.
Short Slovakian, very pretty with looooooong high heel boots ketp on, surprisingly sloppy (btw, I find it so easy to reveal when babes don't do their excercises :-), however this time I found it pretty sexy, so recommended as well.
C U without robe next time?
wbr
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Hi everyone,
As promised, my report.
The directions given on this site to Artemis
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are exact. Just an additional point for those coming by train from other parts of Germany. Get down at Berlin Hautbanhof, and not at Postdamer Platz. From the Hautbanhof you can get a direct S7 to Westkeurz.
Let me address a few issues that have been raised here from time to time.
A. Door policy: I am a Canadian of south Asian origin,but had no problem getting in, I also can pass of as Middle Eastern, southern spanish, or greek, but the receptionist was really friendly. I was well dressed, in a felt jacket, jeans, red turtle neck sweater, coat, and black shoes. I think that this helps. I saw East Asians, Indians, Africans, and Turks. You can leave the club and come back if you want to. They have an offer of 700 euros for 12 visits, but all have to be taken within an year.
B.For newbies, dont make the mistake of going straight to the shower. The towels are on the left side of the enterance to the shower on rows...when you hang up your robes before going into the shower also make sure that you know which robe is yours, since it is easy to mix them up, and keep the bathrobe belt secure as it falls down. this might seem a bit silly but if you are absent minded as I am you can both lose your belt, and inadvertently take somebody elses robe or towel.
C. The best thing about this website is the list of sharks.Bianca from Poland, Jena from Hamburg, and a tall Brazilian of African origin, all known sharks (Thank you ISG) approached me but I politely said that I was relaxing. Thank you fellow ISG members!
D. I found that it was easy to be approached in the kino. It was my first time, so I was a bit nervous of approaching on my own at the bar. However, while sitting at the kino I got several offers. I politely refused them, just saying that I wanted to relax for some time, and it was fine. I finally went with Dagmar the red head with glasses from Poland. Great session!
E. My second encounter was with Olga from Russia. She is young and pretty. Black/brown curly hair, wide blue eyes, small kissable mouth, sharp nose, looks girlish. Well a caveat is in order. She is friendly and all that, but is too finicky about fingering. So no wet digits (though she allows DATY! ironic, eh?). Worse she wont let you touch your cock with your fingers even if you have a condom on. That made it difficult since it has to be completely hands off, and she keeps a sharp eye out to see if you touch your cock at anytime. Moreover, even if you are doing DATY and using your hands to stimulate little tosca to rise, she does not allow that. So only those of you who can maintain a strong erection without ever touching it can have fun with her. No DFK.
I plan to go back in January and hope I will have a lot more fun. Though the girls were friendly and there was no pressure, it being my first time ever at an FKK, I did not have good a session as expected since I was nervous. So a return is in order.
Thanks for everything ISG!
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Frenchieboy
10-19-08, 12:44
Hello,
First: Excuse my English.
Monday October 13 first visit with a friend arrival 8 pm not a lot of people ratio men/women 1/1 first important if you want to fuck quickly sit down in the little beds with curtains which are all around the smoking bar.
I do that and 2 minutes after a beautiful Bulgarian Girl call Marisa came to talk me, not for a long time. I went with her in room, very nice girl look 8/10 service 7/10 gfe 7/10.
Second round I have met a slovakian girl Leila listen to me she is very very GFE very nice and in bed really good I recommand her very strongly but hurry up in 2 or 3 weeks she will be back in Bratislava if someone will see her please just say her "you a have a big kisse from Casanova in France) I hope she will remember me Back in Hotel at Midnight.
Tuesday October14
Back in Artemis with 2 friends.
I just arrive (8 pm)and then just in front of me Leila my Slovakian girl she kisses me and then I recommand her to my friend He went with her and was also very happy This Tuesday very good for man ratio 1 man 3 girls.
I saw a beautiful blond girl Alina from Ukrainia came with her in bedroom look 10/10 service 6/10 gfe 7/10 you can go with her if you want no paradise just very good Second round I think you can imagine me and Leila again always the same happiness but I think that her first qualiy is very GFE.
Other girls from my friends: Carla Italian Girl like a volcan CIM but little problem she did'nt say to my friend that it is an extras (50 euros) she is very nice, other girl Victoria Bulgarian Girl, my friend told me that she is very perfect and recommand her very strongly.
Sorry again for my English Have a nice time in Artemis and kiss Leila for me.
Angus Magee
10-20-08, 12:59
Well a caveat is in order. She is friendly and all that, but is too finicky about fingering. So no wet digits (though she allows DATY! ironic, eh?). Worse she wont let you touch your cock with your fingers even if you have a condom on. That made it difficult since it has to be completely hands off, and she keeps a sharp eye out to see if you touch your cock at anytime. Moreover, even if you are doing DATY and using your hands to stimulate little tosca to rise, she does not allow that. So only those of you who can maintain a strong erection without ever touching it can have fun with her.
I have met many women over the years who are very adverse to fingering. When I have spoken to them about it I have often been told, and I think that there is considerable truth to this, that fingering can result is urinary tract infection for many girls. The hands are in fact quite a source of bacterial infection and so some girls are very careful with this.
The bit about not touching your covered dick probably has the same or similar worry for the girl. i.e. she is worried that you will contaminate your dick with bacteria from the hands.
And I think many of the girls go over the top a bit with this worry maybe sublimating some of their general sex industry health concerns into this one rule. Perhaps they think if they are careful with this they will avoid other illnesses.
I also sometimes wonder if some girls simply have unpleasant associations with fingering as perhaps some of their earliest sex experiences were from uncaring, rough fingering. Speculation on my part I know but as I really love to include gentle but deep finger play it is an issue that concerns and interests me. Especially when a girl enjoys finger play, you can see what a turn on for both it can be.
I have met many women over the years who are very adverse to fingering. When I have spoken to them about it I have often been told, and I think that there is considerable truth to this, that fingering can result is urinary tract infection for many girls. The hands are in fact quite a source of bacterial infection and so some girls are very careful with this.
The bit about not touching your covered dick probably has the same or similar worry for the girl. i.e. she is worried that you will contaminate your dick with bacteria from the hands.
And I think many of the girls go over the top a bit with this worry maybe sublimating some of their general sex industry health concerns into this one rule. Perhaps they think if they are careful with this they will avoid other illnesses.
I also sometimes wonder if some girls simply have unpleasant associations with fingering as perhaps some of their earliest sex experiences were from uncaring, rough fingering. Speculation on my part I know but as I really love to include gentle but deep finger play it is an issue that concerns and interests me. Especially when a girl enjoys finger play, you can see what a turn on for both it can be.
Finding a chick who enjoys fingering is a treat.
A girlfriend taught me how to massage her G spot and it would drive her absolutely bonkers.
One way you can counter her health concerns is showing her you've trimmed your finger nails. Sharp nails can cause small cuts and those cuts are what she wants to avoid.
I forgot to bring a nail clipper once and had to ask the owner of my hotel if I could borrow one. I never travel without one now.
Another thing you can offer to do is wear a condom on your finger. This is always appreciated.
Angus Magee
10-20-08, 19:11
Another thing you can offer to do is wear a condom on your finger. This is always appreciated.
I actually will usually bring along a pair of latex gloves for the purpose of really deep fingering in both holes (one for each of course).
I have found a girl at Liberty who is really into it and she lets me stuff as many finger as I can manage up either hole:-). Gets her really hot and then she fucks my brains out. Last time I had bruises on my pubic bone...
I actually will usually bring along a pair of latex gloves for the purpose of really deep fingering in both holes (one for each of course).
I have found a girl at Liberty who is really into it and she lets me stuff as many finger as I can manage up either hole:-). Gets her really hot and then she fucks my brains out. Last time I had bruises on my pubic bone...Reminds me of Peter's story of initially being so freaked out about health concerns when he got into this hobby he did bring latex gloves with him to his first encounter.
The chick freaked out though because she thought he was going to perform some kind of medical experiment on her.
Angus Magee
10-21-08, 10:57
Reminds me of Peter's story of initially being so freaked out about health concerns when he got into this hobby he did bring latex gloves with him to his first encounter.
The chick freaked out though because she thought he was going to perform some kind of medical experiment on her.Actually with the girl I am referring to (Anna bei Liberty) the Doctor/Medical association with the gloves seems to turn her on. The first time I saw her (no gloves this time) I put my glasses on to perform a close inspection and she started calling me Herr Doktor. The name has sort of stuck and now with the gloves the fantasy just improves her turn on I think. I am next session going to pony up an extra 10€ for the use of the gynstuhl and really go to town.
As my work called me in Berlin again, I could not avoid the chance of testing Artemis once again.
So here is my report:
First of all I must underline that I had bad luck as I was in Berlin during the Venus fachmesse ( 16-18 Oct). That gave me the opportunity to realize how Artemis could seem a stadium in such occasions. Points of view may vary: I imagine that the boss and the girls put down the red carpet. I didn’t. In other words a real FKK addicted as I am (considering FKK as taking a sigarette, a sauna, a massage and few selected gals as well) avoids those days as a plague. I am a visitor but I really need to share the upset for such an encroachment with my german colleagues.
BTW, let’s speak of girls.
I had five girls in two days:
DAY 1
With such a crowd I preferred the downstairs lounge, where I found Iolanda, from Jamaica, in other words a dark skinned girl. Usually I usually avoid those girls, but she catched me with her smile.
Iolanda
25-27 y.o.
About 1,80 tall
B natural breast
Velveted skin from Jamaica
I'm not used to appreciate black girls but Iolanda, with her ebony skin, was a surprise. Great DFK, great great BBJ, in the meanwhile allowing me deep fingering her pussy (my favourite job). After some minutes of cowgirl I fucked her on doggy where I completed my job. Her sculptured back while I was fucking her is something hard to forget.
While resting she allowed deep fingering her pussy again and she liked it (IMO she came).
Rates:
Body 9
Face 8,5
GFE 9
Repeat: yes
I imagine you are not interested at all at my relaxing periods, so I’ll throw myself two hours later, where, after eating and relaxing, I found Sylvia, From Hungary (but not sure). She intrigued me as she was really nice.
Sylvia
25-28 y.o.
About 1,65 tall
Blond smooth hair
B natural breast
Slim body
She is another (rare) provider taking care of the client satisfaction (as Martina, already tested, her friend).
Before entering the room she asked me for an extra cleaning of my silver jewels, and she withdraw for a while as well . Good beginning: I appreciated it.
In the room she was very nice. Very charming DFK. Great BBJ: I longly kept her neck firmly in my hands pacing her rhythm and her depth nearly to my climax. Believe me: playing with a neck in such a way is not usual - hard to avoid shooting in her mouth. After I fucked her hardly on doggy and later I came: great experience and best orgasm along these days.
An oil massage after sex was a welcomed add on.
Rates
Face 7,5
Body 8
GFE 9
Repeat yes
After a proper relaxing period of sauna, massage, biosauna, swimming pool, sigarettes and drinking I met Christiana, from Romania.
Christiana
1,70 tall
23 y.o.
black straight hair
B natural breast
slim body
Artemis was really crowded at that moment. As we arranged for sex we moved downstair where we waited for fucking: she kept my cock awaked performing an handjob while chatting with another couple. Really odd. Later, below the courtains, she didn’t resemble as the Artemis queen at all. She was such a girl “beware of keeping my neck while on BJ, beware of deep fingering my pussy, beware of keeping my back on doggy”. But I was in vein and I took my honest revenge fucking her very hardly on doggy. I didn’t care if she moaned, probably she did. Nevertheless I came deeply in her pussy.
Very scanty chatting afterwards.
Rates
Face 8,5
Body 8,5
GFE 6
Repeat no
SECOND DAY
Skipping the relaxing atmoshere I enjoyed after the working day I had, I will report you about Nathalie (or Natasha), from Moskow, wearing a golden metal chain around her naked wrist.
At last in this second day I joined my favourite position in the last row of the downstair kino. After some patrolling girls, which I refused as they promised to kiss and suck me only when in the room, Nathalie from Moskow sat close to me and began chatting, caressing and kissing me. Yeah, I said, that’s good. Let’s fuck her.
Nathalie
1,70 tall
Smooth blond hairs
B-C natural breast
Slim body
A golden metal chain wrapping her wrist
Below the courtains of the room she performed an acceptable BBJ, a good cowgirl and a good mish with an acceptable moaning. Without praise or blame. Usually gals give their best performances in the room. She didn’t.
Rates
Face 8
Body 8,5
GFE 6,5
Repeat: yes, if in an emergency chance
Last choice was Petra. She lured me all the day. Her common position was either smoking at the main bar or controlling the entrance of the main lounge. She intrigued me as she never patrolled, neither the upstair kino or even downstair, just smoking her cigarettes glancing behind her stylish glasses. She could resemble as a young mathematic teacher which makes your young dick growing in the pants while explaining some stupid theories at the blackboard.
Few words and we went up where we waited for nearly ten minutes on the sofa as all the rooms where working.
Petra
1,70 tall
Smooth blond hairs
Slim body
B natural breast
Stylish glasses
Without her glasses she looses charme. First girl I disliked to kiss as she had a bad breath (too many sigarettes, too much garlic…?), so I can’t definetly vote her DFK. A sufficient BBJ: she removed my (gentle) hand from her neck. She didn’t allow to deep fingering her pussy. But on my prolonged mish she moaned greatly whispering the right dirty words in my ears. As I love them I came with a great orgasm.
Rates
Face 8,5 with glasses, 7 without
Body 8
GFE 8
Repeat why not if necessary.
To the next, my beloved colleagues
Z
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Sunstar777
10-28-08, 08:21
So. My first visit to Artemis is just a week away. I must say I've read most of the posts here and thanx to them I feel more 'prepared'. Just one thing me and my friends cannot decide yet. Go on a Thursday or on a Friday. I was thinking to go on a Thursday so on Friday I visit Watergate Club and party a little. But is it better on a Friday?
Is Atemis the only FKK club in Berlin ? What about La Folie ? Are there others?
Please, help an old FKK-fan.
Paul
Is Atemis the only FKK club in Berlin ? What about La Folie ? Are there others?
Please, help an old FKK-fan.
Paul
Berlin has a veritable cornucopia of other formats though: Sexkinos, Wohnungspuffs, Strassenstrich.
More details available under the Berlin thread.
I particularly recommend a series of posts by Angus Magee, our resident Berlinmeister, where he lays out the options in the Bundeshauptstadt.
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Angus Magee
10-29-08, 15:19
Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. Having a fellow ISG member there might just tip the scales further towards going.
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more....
Anyway, I have been doing ok lately (financially) and have a little Artemis fund built up. So I thought tomorrow might just be the day. I also like the idea of some hours spent with the sauna and just relaxing in a nice environment. Work last week was very intense.
Let me know via pm or here in the forum.
Friday could also work but I think Thursday may be a better day at Artemis.
Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. Having a fellow ISG member there might just tip the scales further towards going.
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more....
Anyway, I have been doing ok lately (financially) and have a little Artemis fund built up. So I thought tomorrow might just be the day. I also like the idea of some hours spent with the sauna and just relaxing in a nice environment. Work last week was very intense.
Let me know via pm or here in the forum.
Friday could also work but I think Thursday may be a better day at Artemis.Angus,
I think in general, I prefer Saturdays over Friday or Thursdays. The only Saturdays I would try to avoid are when a big Messe is in town (like Venus a couple of weeks back). Then its get pretty crazy, with long waits for rooms, having to flag down girls you want before she is taken by another punter and the overall hectic atmosphere. Its even hard to find a decent place to sit during those Messe Saturdays. A normal Sat is busy, but there is usually no problem sessioning with a girl you want. Also, I prefer to stay at Artemis for 10+ hours when I go and session 3-5 times. That is hard to do during a workday.
I don't think there is a big convention this weekend, so I will probably head to Artemis on Sat afternoon. Let me know if that would work for you.
JLSF
Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. Having a fellow ISG member there might just tip the scales further towards going.
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more....
Anyway, I have been doing ok lately (financially) and have a little Artemis fund built up. So I thought tomorrow might just be the day. I also like the idea of some hours spent with the sauna and just relaxing in a nice environment. Work last week was very intense.
Let me know via pm or here in the forum.
Friday could also work but I think Thursday may be a better day at Artemis.Hi Angus,
I may be able to go tomorrow - though I would have to be there for about 11ish when it opens and leave at about 3pm as I have to leave Berlin tomorrow.
Which isn't terribly helpful to you.
Well, if you do go, I hope you enjoy it! (I think it's fantastic)
Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. .
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more.IMHO Artemis and FKKs are addictive. Bordellos can't be compared. I realized that while on my relax after sex in my last October sessions.
As just a former newbie, I can't act as a teacher as all with our Berlinmeister , but IMO what is overwhelming is the experience of hunting (or be hunted from) a girl in the scene rather than choosing a girl from a line up. Moreover the chance of selecting the situation (Kino, sofas, lounges) in such a facility as Artemis, is just a drug for our brain.
Professional reports are welcomed
Sunstar777
10-30-08, 07:57
Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.
Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.The only area that is non smoking is downstairs in the wellness area: pool, sauna. The rest of the club allows smoking (including the rooms).
If you can't handle the smoke, then you can hang downstairs. Only about quarter of the girls come down to this area to look for customers so you will need to go to the main room to pick the girls you want to session with.
Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.You can smoke in the bar.
Hessen Bub
10-30-08, 21:49
I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now.
It's worth the experience. Go there, find Viagra (Brasil) and fuck one of THE FKK legends.
HB
Basketcase
10-30-08, 22:01
Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.Sunstar777,
Not that I smoke, the bar area level of Artemis allows smoking. The wellness area in the ground level is non smoking, although some inconsiderate souls continue to smoke there.
I find the atmosphere better without the smoke.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Frenchieboy
10-31-08, 14:04
Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.But don't be afraid Girls like to smoke you in the rooms.
Otherwise you can smoke in the smoking bar but not allowed in the bar downstairs be careful all the girls are in the smoking bar just few donwstairs
Angus Magee
10-31-08, 19:38
before i say anything else let me tell you that this morning my dick is sore and my wallet empty. and i am happy to say that i am no longer an fkk virgin.
first some practical information and my general impressions of the facility. i found actually getting to artemis just a wee bit difficult on foot. the nearest s-bahn station, in fact the only real public transit option (i think there is also a bus that stops close to artemis) is westkreuz. when i got off the train i looked around for an exit and could not see one. i found a set of stairs but there was some sort of construction going on and for some reason this did not seem to be it. i asked someone, who did not seem to know, but who told me with great certainty that the stairs were not the exit. i then proceeded to wander around the westkreuz station for about 10 minutes looking for an exit. no luck. as far as i could see the station was in the middle of railway ground and there was no way out! feeling now a bit existential and wondering if perhaps i should give up and return home, i was actually still at only about 80% yes to this whole enterprise, i decided to use the stairs. the ones that i was told was most definitely not the exit.
this was in fact the only exit to westkreuz station and it takes you to a parking lot/drop off point right in the middle of railway lands and multilane highways. but from here on it is pretty straight forward road to get to artemis. you just walk a 100 m. or so and it is really the only place that you can walk to out here except for what looked to be an auto repair facility next door. if you are having difficulties and it is night time just look over your left shoulder as you exit the station and you will see a big red neon light. head towards that as it is artemis’ neon sign on top of their building.
the intake was easy and, telling the girl (reasonable english spoken) it was my first time, i was given a good explanation of the facilities and how things worked. i changed into my robe, donned my slippers and headed for the shower. then i had a look around. my first impression of the place was that it is a very well decked out club. lots of space, seating and nooks and crannies in which to get intimate. i liked it.
the time of my arrival was shortly after 18:00 on a thursday-late in the month which apparently has an effect on the busy-ness. when i arrived there seemed to be about 20 girls, mostly in the main floor bar-the one where you can smoke. however, after sitting for about 5 minutes with a cola i could see that more were coming on shift and there would be no shortage of girls in the house tonight. as far as i could see there were not very many men at this time. it is fairly easy to get a good idea of this. you just look out over the room and if you see a sea of white robes it is busy. at this time mostly i saw mostly naked to scantily clad female forms, which was fine by me.
i took a seat on one of the bed platforms in the lounge area of the bar (near the dining room i think) and spent a few minutes arriving and watching the scene. almost right away i was approached, one after the other, by a few girls. each was nice, no stunners, and i told them all the same thing: that i had just arrived and wanted to relax a bit first. all of them were easy about this and left with the comment that perhaps we will have a chance to talk more later. i felt no pressure and i am guessing that at this time of the evening the interactions are pretty laid back.
after about ten minutes i left the bar to explore. i ended up down in the wellness area and spent the next while in the saunas and pool. with this aspect of artemis i was very, very impressed. the hot sauna (90 deg.) is great and there are two cold plunges which i appreciate very much after a sauna. the more mellow 60 deg. sauna is a nice place to hang out and the pool is just warm enough that you can spend some time in there just floating.
there were very few ladies in this area, just every once in a while one would wander through. i guess having a look for potential customers. and there was one lady, older but with one of those very pampered looking pneumatic bodies, optically attractive but looking like she might just pop if you were to land on it a little too hard. she was lounging/posing on one of the wicker lounge chairs that surround the pool. every once in a while she would stand up and walk around the pool, positioning herself just outside the hot sauna and then returning to her lounge chair. at first i thought “major shark”, but after watching her some time i decided, in keeping with the aquatic theme, that barracuda was a better description of her. still a largish predator that i wished to avoid this evening. no worries though as she really seemed to be a woman who was pretty confident of her appeal to some men and she was simply offering her looks as bait.
at this point i was still feeling quite flat at being here in artemis. i even briefly considered that i would just hang in the wellness area for a couple of hours, get my fill of the sauna and leave. but who am i kidding. it was time to head back upstairs and see if i could find a nice girl to break my fkk cherry.
upstairs was busier when i returned. more ladies, a number of more men. i took a large glass of mineral water and sat down on one of the couches close to the bar. immediately i was joined by a dark haired beauty (spanish i think) with whom i chatted for a while but, in keeping with iseeu’s sound advise about approaching rather than being approached by the ladies, when she broached the subject of fun upstairs i told her i was wanting to mingle a bit more. she took this well (a good sign according to iseeu) and said perhaps later and left. i was sort of wondering how to find a girl i
i liked, sensing that just sitting there on the couch was a bad strategy (might as well paint a large red dot on your chest and wait to be picked off, or like dumping a bucket of fresh chicken guts into shark infested waters) when i spotted a girl that peeked my interest. the girls do seem to have some sort of sense that tells them when they have caught a guy's interest as she was walking quickly across the bar when i noticed her and she immediately stopped, looked around and caught my gaze. i motioned her over and soon she was practically sitting on my lap.
her name was luciana (i am pretty sure) and she was from brazil, tall, dark skin, smallish breasts, wide hips, flat stomach perhaps 23-24 years old. we chatted (just a note-most of the girls i interacted with this evening spoke better german than english though german was rarely their first language. my german, especially in such a situation is quite passable and i do like to practice in a relaxed atmosphere. but my feeling is that speaking only english in artemis would not be such a big problem unless you want to discuss early 1900th century philosophy with the girls. and what are the chances of that...) and after about ten minutes conversation was pretty much exhausted.
now i did not have a great feeling with this girl, not the love of my life, but she was nice and i certainly found her physically appealing, so when she suggested a room i immediately agreed. i had the feeling that i could dither all evening trying to find “the perfect girl”. ditherer as i am sometimes, i also recognize that in life you just have to take the plunge and have the experience-good or bad. so off we went and soon we were in one of the upstairs rooms doing what i had come to do.
so how was it? okay. not bad, but certainly not mind blowing in any way. luciana was a sweet girl, nice bj(uncovered), kissing and the sex was easy. she tried a brief up sell (did i want an hour long session?) but seemed quite content with the “ganz normal” session i wanted. she also mentioned extras but did not elaborate when i said no extras. in the end and after a cuddle and a bit of pillow talk i paid the girl and we parted. the earth still spun on it’s axis and as far as i could tell the sun, moon and stars were all still up there in the heavens.
i returned to the sauna, showered and did another short round in the 60 deg. then floated a bit in the pool. my thoughts revolved that in getting the maximum enjoyment from the fkk experience there is, as with many things in life, a learning curve. there is here in this environment a very delicate balance to be achieved between approaching the girls and being approached. what i learned from my first experience was that it is probably best to be mobile when approaching a girl. sitting on the coach and calling her over to you sort of implies an eagerness that, after our ten minute talk, i really did not feel. i guess i could have at that point thanked her and moved on but enough of the post game analysis. chalk it up to experience, learn what is there to learn and move on, which is what i did.
back up in the bar i was about to make a big mistake. i sat at the bar and was again immediately set upon, first by a dark haired romanian , who left with the usual “perhaps later “ when i told her i was having a post session rest. and then by a bulgarian (marrisa?) girl who i was later to realize was a classic shark. not a big mean fierce one that chews you apart in the first 5 seconds, rather a reef shark who does not do much damage but is never the less a predator. so she sidled up to me and before i knew it she was kissing my neck and face and had her hands wrapped around my cock under the robe. some part (looking back) knew that i should have disengaged and seen her reaction but before i knew it we were headed for the room.
the rest is history. not a good session. well, to be fair, not the worst i have had but the sex was mechanical and once we got to the room the kisses were perfunctory and the passion was obviously very fake. little angus was not happy and even getting an erection was a bit of a task. finally with some coaxing he was hard enough to do the job he had come for and marrisa, in doggy, was sexy enough to at least manage an orgasm. we cleaned up and off we went to pay the girl.
jesus the lighting down by the safe boxes needs to be improved somehow. while paying the marrisa, who i realized in the harsh light of the lobby was probably on the far side of thirty, i had one of those-did i just stick my dick in that, and pay for the privilege? moments. but maybe it was just the light and the hallucinogenic tricks the mind can play on one in the midst of deep regret.
down once more to the sauna area i grabbed a mineral water and took a recliner, close my eyes and licked my wounds inflicted by the reef shark marrisa. all in all not so bad. more of the learning curve i told myself in justification. now i was seriously considering leaving. 190 in the hole and i was still feeling pretty much dissatisfied as far as the sex aspect of the fkk experience goes. mentally i was adding it all up and calculating just what kind of session, with extras, i could have had with one of my tried and true favorites at kd or liberty. but this sort of thought really gets you know where, what’s done is done, the only thing important is what to do now.
i decided to head back upstairs for a while and observe. the bar was by now much busier. but the predominant view was nearly naked female forms. there seemed to be an abundance of women and really the white robes were in short supply. on the surface this may seem like a good thing for us mongers, but the feeling i had from the bar was one of deep dissatisfaction from the females. they were hungry, and sort of bored. a dangerous combination in my experience of dealing with women.
there were not may seats left now, all the couches being taken by foot tapping naked girls, chain smoking and casting their eyes about or conferring with their girl friends about the pathetic state of the male company tonight i imagined. i finally spotted an empty bed recliner in the upper part of the room, i took m place up there, arranged the pillows and sat back to just watch the show. i figured at this point that i would sit for some time and if nothing really interesting happened i would leave.
i was left pretty much alone now. as i mentioned the girls were all sort of restless and they seemed to be either talking with friends or circulating and trying to snare a wandering male. there really did seem to be a extreme man shortage this evening. a half an hour passed and i was still alone on the bed when a young lady walked up, asked if i was sitting with someone and when i replied no, lay down on the the other side of the bed. her name was andrea, from budapest and she was quite visually appealing. we chatted a bit and i slowly started to realize that she was not quite so non-chalantly “just chilling” as i at first thought and as she was trying to appear. nice approach though, i thought. as we sat and chatted (she was mostly complaining about the lack of action from the men tonight and how she had to pay her bills tomorrow) i saw that she was offering me poses and as i mention she was cute and i was enjoying it.
maybe 20 minutes passed and soon she was openly playing with her pussy so that i could just see what was going on. with the line nicely baited (and beautiful bait it was too) she tried to set the hook. but old angus was leery and this time thinking with the big head. for when she openly suggested we go for some fun i told her i was recovering from my second session and was frankly unsure of my ability to get it up for a third session. with this she chided me for “thinking negatively”, she who had just spent the past 20-25 minutes in full complaint about the state of things in the bar, pulled in her line and wiggled off for some deeper pool and perhaps a more promising catch. i hope she found him but was glad it was not me.
proud of myself i relaxed again alone and watched the strip show that had just started on stage. it ended and i was still alone. i considered the romanian girl with whom i had chatted earlier as she seemed to be at a loose end by the bar and she did look to be some fun, but there was not a whole lot of juice left in me. i was starkly aware that my last session had been tenuous at best (getting it up i mean) and i was not at all confident that the next would be any better unless i could somehow find a girl who really turned my crank.
in total i must have lay there over an hour looking at the girls and occasionally feeling a stirring of interest. then a girl i had not seen before walked into the bar. again, i am amazed at this sixth sense women seem to have. as she came in walking purposely across the floor my head turned, saw her (she was maybe 8 meters away in a darkish room) and my eyebrows must have raised. the law of the jungle was in actions and she, senses on high alert, must have caught the movement of my eye brows. or maybe i somehow beamed her a signal off the third star in orion’s belt, so i imagine, and she made a bee line for me on the bed.
she asked politely if she could join me and of course i said yes. her name was iris, from romania, perhaps 22-23 years old she was slim, wide hips, smallish breasts, long straight blondish streaked hair and just something about her i liked. she was not a drop dead gorgeous type but, dressed right, she would turn my head on the street. we chatted for some time (15-20 minutes) all the time moving closer and starting to touch each other. this was flowing nicely but i was still somehow worried about my ability to perform, or it was in the back of my mind, and i was starting to be aware that i had to somehow tell this girl that i was hesitant to commit to a full session. fair is fair and we were acting pretty much as if it was a forgone conclusion that we would end up in a room, but i was unsure.
at this point iris started to touch little angus under my robe and i more or less knew that things had gone too far if i did not stop her. i felt a stirring but no real erection yet. then she suddenly asked if i wanted a bj.
where? here? i asked
sure. she replied.
okay. (never one to turn down such an offer from a comely female)
now i know that i was now committed to the girl for a session by the protocol i have read about on the fkk threads. but i also wondered if she had little angus in her mouth, with no result, if i could still back out without causing a big scene with her. she closed the curtains most of the way, opened my robe and started to kiss, soft little kisses up and down my torso. then she reached into her bag and came out with a condom.
humm..no bbbj here, i thought.
but i was not going to argue now and besides i also had the thought that if she can get little “a” hard now, with a condom, she really will perform in a full session. down she went on me and i lay back and enjoyed the experience of being blown in a bar with the curtains open a bit so i could look out onto the bar at all that was happening around me. and little angus seemed to be responding to her talents. before i knew it he was a stiff as a fence post and iris’ magical mouth was bobbing up and down with great enthusiasm. yes this girl knew how to give head.
joy!
i let her keep going at it for several minutes until i realized that she was going to make me come if i did not stop things pretty soon. yes she was that good. i signaled her to stop and kissed her, nice, lots of tongue and asked if we could find a room. i am pretty sure that we could have just kept going in the bar there. it was quite private with the curtain pulled but as much as anything i wanted to make it clear to her that we would have a full half hour session.
upstairs the mongers were stacked up like holiday air traffic over o’hare airport waiting for rooms to be free. i guess there were more white robes that i thought this evening. iris, rather than wait, suggested that we could find a room down by the kino. sure enough there was one available and soon enough the towels were spread and we were once again kissing and naked.
so this was more like it. the session was great and as close to a gfe as i imagine i could have at an fkk. my only slight disappointment was the covered bj but with her technique it seemed actually to make little difference to how the bj felt. in the room her bj was more aggressive and she really went to town on little angus. she also enjoyed being licked and was very responsive, getting very wet and thrusting back as my tongue worked in her pussy. she was also a very loud fuck and i think for a while we must have drowned out the noises from the sex kino. when she climbed on top of me she went quite wild, fucking herself hard on my cock and even squatting, feet flat beside me, for several minutes fucking just about as hard as it is possible to go and bruising, i think, my pubic bone in the process and leaving me today with that “i was fucked really hard by a very horny girl” feeling today.
finally i had her position herself in doggy and did some of the work as well, again fucking as hard as i possibly could and much harder than i even normally enjoy. this girl’s pure animal intensity and enjoyment of being fucked hard was, well, infectious. i remember briefly having the thought that it may be difficult to actually finish. this to be was my third shot, after all, in so any hours. but my dick was so hard and in the position we were in i could really fuck her with long, hard, steady, deep thrusts. and her pussy was fully wet and seemed to keep opening and then grasping me as i pulled almost all the way out before thrusting again and again as deep as i possibly could, that i soon forgot to worry and with a final deep thrust i came in one of those really, really satisfying, ball emptying orgasms.
dripping sweat, heart pounding we held the position for a couple of minutes as my dick fully emptied into her pussy (well, into the condom) and then finally we separated and she did the clean up on me, got rid of the condom and then curled up for a bit of a cuddle and a chat. no rush as we talked a bit and i complimented her on her skills as a lover and her beauty, which in my experience no woman ever gets tired of hearing about.
finally i suggested we get up and go finish our transaction. this time i happily paid her well earned 60 euros, we kissed once more (still deep and with feeling), said our good byes and i headed for the showers and then home to fall exhausted into my bed.
so there you have it guys, a rather long account of my introduction to the fkk tradition at artemis club. this morning i woke up and felt over all happy with my visit despite the fact that my first two sessions were a tad disappointing. as i have mentioned there is that learning curve to consider.
fkk is not cheap. last night i spent a total of 250 euros on three sessions and the entrance fee. and i guess i could have easily spent more were i to have gone for the extras offered by the ladies. so walking into an fkk (at least artemis) with less than say 300 euros is probably not so wise. i guess i could have stopped at two sessions but then i would have missed out on the best session of the evening, the one that really made it all worth while and put a shine to the evening. and to put it in a bit of balance, i also had over 5 hours at the club and easily the sauna facilities alone are worth the high price you pay. when i break it down to a per hour number it really seems a reasonable full evening’s entertainment.
so while i am not ready to forgo bordellos now in favor of fkk i do see a definite place for the fkk in my mongers diet. the whole experience is great fun, even the disappointments really. it is a bit of a challenge and an adventure to find the right girl (or allow her to find you?) who will rock your world for the evening. i imagine that i will be back at artemis, or another fkk if i can swing that, sometime, perhaps a road trip. but i also imagine that it will not be a weekly thing for me or even monthly. maybe a couple to three times a year or on special occasions.
i also see a couple of thing i would do differently next time. number one would be to really make the effort to find a time when i could hook up with another isg member to make the visit. it is my observation that a single guy, without buddies i mean, is at a distinct disadvantage at a club like artemis. two guys (or a a few more, but not a mob) seem to be able to hang easier in the thick of the female action and not be such a target for the hard core predators. then that all important eye contact etc. can be made and the girl then approached. there is often, i think, a slight air of want or need around the buddy-less male that makes it harder to achieve the energy that attracts the right caliber of woman. i mean, if you have a friend there hanging alone is not an issue and the female company is in addition to your good time rather than being your “raison d’etre” of being there.
i also think that next time i might try to arrive earlier in the afternoon, use the sauna, perhaps have one session and then go away for a while, returning at around 20:00 when things seem to really get into a swing.
so thanks for reading if you have made it this far. hope you enjoyed it and that it can be of use to my fellow monger, both fkk experienced and newbies.
over and out
am
Great stream of consciousness narrative style with lots of details! You capture the sense of what it is like to prowl a club in search of the perfect session, what the interactions with women are like and the considerations one weighs in making a decision.
At a club you recognize very quickly which dudes are hot to trot. They (as well as I) go into a pacing mode, wandering from room to room, making quick assessments of which chick is sitting where, who is away at a room, who has just come back. Its the only way to release nervous energy.
At a large club its not a problem. At a small club like Blue Note, for example, its more of a challenge. I go clockwise, then counter-clockwise.
Nothing wrong with dithering, by the way. We all do it to some degree.
You probably have more apartment bordello experience than most of us have so it was helpful to keep this in mind while reading your post. You have a slightly different perspective than a pure newbie.
Clubs do tend to have different personalities and distinct club sub-cultures, by the way. At some its easy to chat with anyone at the club: the staff, the other guests, the women. At other clubs, everyone is more standoffish. At certain clubs, certain behavior is tolerated and even encouraged. At others, there are unspoken rules about what is not allowed.
Great report, ironic but detailed. You gave the sensation of being a newbie although you certainly fucked half of the Berlin scene or more.
I also totally agree with the conclusions.
Just to mention, it seems you are still bordello oriented.
Speaking of my short experience, without any aim of teaching, in FKK it's slighty different. You achieve the consciousness of being in a wellness facility and, time after time, you (partially) loose the anxiety of the session. IMO the best is when you are unprogrammed to catch a gal but a gal arrives and upset your mind and your body.
The problem between hunting or being hunted is hard to solve but both work well in different contexts (as you realized).
Cheers,
Z
Great report, ironic but detailed. You gave the sensation of being a newbie although you certainly fucked half of the Berlin scene or more.
Just to mention, it seems you are still bordello oriented.
Z
I have to laud the post of Angus below, a kind of Catcher in the Rye of FKK reports.
However, it is important, I think, to make the distinction between Artemis in Berlin and the general body of FKKs elsewhere in Germany, primarily in NRW and Hessen. I mean, I don't know if Artemis properly represents the middle ground of the FKK experience (assuming such exists), but rather one of the more extreme "posh" FKKs, somewhat Palace-esqe.
Angus, you say, based on your Artemis experience you would certainly re-visit, but not more than a couple of times a year. Well, I wonder what you would make if you were to visit some of the other so-called "mainstream" FKKs. Imagine a bordello-like club, where things are structured and priced a bit differently than, say, KD or Liberty. Imagine a place like F39 in Bochum, where the girl line-up is spread before you on individual couches, and you just walk through the giant hall and stop at the couch of your choice to chat a bit, then move on. Or a place like Oase in Hessen, where the girl line-up, sometimes numbering beyond 50 girls, will come up to you on your bar stool or couch and flirt with you, giving you the odd HJ, etc. Or Bernd's where you can watch the girl line-up BBBJing or more other clients before you decide on whom to choose for your own romp, etc.
This is by no means an attempt to deminish the joys and charms of the bordello scene in Berlin. Just trying to encourage you and others who have only tried one club to branch out a bit (if possible) and try to explore the wide parameters of the FKK universe within Germany. Then you might have a slightly different perspective on FKKs in gereral, and Artemis in particular.
Plus, lastly, the more clubs and club visits you put under your belt, the more experience you get in playing this game. So the dividends of more positive sessions will increase. You will learn to read the body language of certain sharky types right off the bat.
Thanks for a great report and keep your insights coming....
Ortos
Angus Magee
11-02-08, 09:54
I have to laud the post of Angus below, a kind of Catcher in the Rye of FKK reports.
However, it is important, I think, to make the distinction between Artemis in Berlin and the general body of FKKs elsewhere in Germany, primarily in NRW and Hessen. I mean, I don't know if Artemis properly represents the middle ground of the FKK experience (assuming such exists), but rather one of the more extreme "posh" FKKs, somewhat Palace-esqe.
Angus, you say, based on your Artemis experience you would certainly re-visit, but not more than a couple of times a year. Well, I wonder what you would make if you were to visit some of the other so-called "mainstream" FKKs. Imagine a bordello-like club, where things are structured and priced a bit differently than, say, KD or Liberty. Imagine a place like F39 in Bochum, where the girl line-up is spread before you on individual couches, and you just walk through the giant hall and stop at the couch of your choice to chat a bit, then move on. Or a place like Oase in Hessen, where the girl line-up, sometimes numbering beyond 50 girls, will come up to you on your bar stool or couch and flirt with you, giving you the odd HJ, etc. Or Bernd's where you can watch the girl line-up BBBJing or more other clients before you decide on whom to choose for your own romp, etc.
This is by no means an attempt to deminish the joys and charms of the bordello scene in Berlin. Just trying to encourage you and others who have only tried one club to branch out a bit (if possible) and try to explore the wide parameters of the FKK universe within Germany. Then you might have a slightly different perspective on FKKs in gereral, and Artemis in particular.
Plus, lastly, the more clubs and club visits you put under your belt, the more experience you get in playing this game. So the dividends of more positive sessions will increase. You will learn to read the body language of certain sharky types right off the bat.
Thanks for a great report and keep your insights coming....
Ortos
Ortos-many thanks for the high praise in comparing me to one of my literrary heros. I am not so sure it is deserved but thanks anyway.
And certainly I think that you are right about not taking Artemis as wholly representative of the FKK scene. Artemis is in Berlin and Berlin is where I live so it is, until such time that another opens or I decide to take a road trip, the FKK I have.
But as you mention these other places I can certainly I imagine that they would be fun places to visit and I would be willing should such opportunity arise.
But when I look at the FKK experience I do see that it requires a fairly large investment in both time and (for me) money. So I am not so sure that it will, as I say, replace the bordello experience. I guess that we are all in this game for different reasons. While "the hunt" does appeal to me, I am often just wanting to get my pole waxed without the bother or having to get into it as it seems is required at Artemis.
In short, and I certainly hope that no perspective "real" GF ever reads this, sometimes an FKK seems like just too much commitment;-)
Perhaps this will change. After all, before this year I never, never went to see the same girl twice and quite enjoyed the sex kino experience.
Late night, horny, pay the lady, get my cock sucked, leave.
Now I find myself wanting to often repeat with a girl and am enjoying the familiarity this brings. And I have not hit a late night sex kino since last winter. So yes things can change.
I also see a couple of thing I would do differently next time. Number one would be to really make the effort to find a time when I could hook up with another ISG member to make the visit. It is my observation that a single guy, without buddies I mean, is at a distinct disadvantage at a club like Artemis.
I also think that next time I might try to arrive earlier in the afternoon, use the sauna, perhaps have one session and then go away for a while, returning at around 20:00 when things seem to really get into a swing.
AMI have now visited Artemis twice on business trips to Berlin and agree that the first visit as a newbie is a lot about gaining these insights. I too have also had good and bad experiences (well not that bad but clinical) in a single visit never having 3 good experiences in one visit.
I will be in Berlin again on Wednesday/Thursday 3rd/4th December and would be glad to join you.
Angus Magee
11-07-08, 16:59
I have now visited Artemis twice on business trips to Berlin and agree that the first visit as a newbie is a lot about gaining these insights. I too have also had good and bad experiences (well not that bad but clinical) in a single visit never having 3 good experiences in one visit.
I will be in Berlin again on Wednesday/Thursday 3rd/4th December and would be glad to join you.
Great-week days are not so good for me but please get in touch closer to your arrival and I will see what is going on then. I do understand that December brings a lot of new girls to the club.
AM
Hello all,
I was in Artemis on Fri 31st Oct whilst visiting Berlin. This was my 8th time in Artemis spread over the last 2 years or so. Is it just me but on this visit I noticed two things which disappointed me compared to my previous visits (which have been great). One was that the overall quality of women has decreased and the other more importantly to me is that the women are more aggressive than before. What I liked previously about Artemis was that you approached the women, if they did approach you it was subtle and they weren't pissed off if you said you needed more time to relax. You would then pick your girls carefully and normally ended up with good experiences. However on this trip there were a lot of sharks that kept coming up and trying to immediately get you to go to a room. Maybe things are more desperate with the credit crunch biting! Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear the opinions of others?
Hello all,
I was in Artemis on Fri 31st Oct whilst visiting Berlin. This was my 8th time in Artemis spread over the last 2 years or so. Is it just me but on this visit I noticed two things which disappointed me compared to my previous visits (which have been great). One was that the overall quality of women has decreased and the other more importantly to me is that the women are more aggressive than before. What I liked previously about Artemis was that you approached the women, if they did approach you it was subtle and they weren't pissed off if you said you needed more time to relax. You would then pick your girls carefully and normally ended up with good experiences. However on this trip there were a lot of sharks that kept coming up and trying to immediately get you to go to a room. Maybe things are more desperate with the credit crunch biting! Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear the opinions of others?Mac75,
I agree with you that the girls are more aggressive than in the past but I would argue that the quality has improved in the 2+ years I have been going to Artemis. There has been a lot of turnover in the past 6 months and I personally believe the girls are generally more attractive and a bit younger than in the past.
I was at Artemis the same evening and had a great time. I have noticed that there tends to be more girls working in the club than in the past so they may be feeling competition to get customers. Also, the girls have been complaining the past month of a big slow down. They say the number of customers have dropped and are spending less money. General consensus seems to blame the economic downturn hitting all over Europe since September. So an increase in number of girls and drop in customers is probably adding more pressure on the girls to compete and troll for customers.
Still, with a bit of screening, anyone should be able to have a good time with multiple, very attractive girls
But
Angus Magee
11-08-08, 11:21
Hello all,
I was in Artemis on Fri 31st Oct whilst visiting Berlin. This was my 8th time in Artemis spread over the last 2 years or so. Is it just me but on this visit I noticed two things which disappointed me compared to my previous visits (which have been great). One was that the overall quality of women has decreased and the other more importantly to me is that the women are more aggressive than before. What I liked previously about Artemis was that you approached the women, if they did approach you it was subtle and they weren't pissed off if you said you needed more time to relax. You would then pick your girls carefully and normally ended up with good experiences. However on this trip there were a lot of sharks that kept coming up and trying to immediately get you to go to a room. Maybe things are more desperate with the credit crunch biting! Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear the opinions of others?
I am sure that these things, like everything else, have their cycles. But perhaps a more experienced FKK customer can offer more insight. I would also imagine that the economy effects things at a club like Artemis.
One good thing about the obvious sharks is that they are, well, so obvious. As annoying as it may be fending them off at least you know where they are at.
Angus Magee
11-09-08, 19:18
after a week of hemming and hawing i was on saturday, back at westkreuz s-bahn station and heading to artemis for a return visit to this luxury establishment. i was curious to see what artemis is like on a weekend. would it be too crowded to really enjoy one’s self?
as noted last time i decided that on my next visit i would arrive early and make full use of the sauna/pool facilities which i do enjoy very much and find that at artemis these facilities are quite excellent.
i arrived at 15:00, changed and headed down to the sauna immediately. no disappointment there and i spent a good three hours using the sauna, pool and finishing a book that i had been reading and not been finding the time to finish. a relaxing, well spent afternoon.
shortly after 18:00 i headed up to give the buffet a sample. my verdict-the food is certainly good and competently prepared and presented but i found it to be a bit heavy considering the intended evening activities. somehow to me sexual gymnastics, ham-steak, potatoes and sauerkraut do not a heavenly partnership make. but as i was indeed hungry after the sauna, i had a nice plate of food, minus the sauerkraut as i did not want to be plagued with sauerkraut burps later in the evening.
i also found the whole experience of eating in the small dining room with towel clad naked ladies and white robed fellow pooners just a little bit surreal. i have to say that if you have trouble wiping mental images from your mind, do not venture in here between, say, 18:00 and 19:00 when most of the girls seem to eat. i sat at a table with a thai girl and a blond polish girl, both of whom were shoveling in the food like it was all about to disappear.
while in the dining room i did catch sight of iris from my last visit and gave her a wave. of course i was wondering if i wanted to repeat with her and at that moment i was sort of split on the idea. i was, after all, here for new experiences.but on the other hand she was so good the last time...
as i finished and went out into the lounge and found a place to sit, iris appeared and jumped into my lap. that decided it. she would be, this time, my first session of the night. and i was not disappointed. we spent a good long time talking and laughing on the couch in the lounge and then, at my suggestion, off we went to a room. the session was as good, if not better, than the past time. it was, after all, my first session of the night. this time there was no condom used for the bj and as i remembered from last time this girl likes to fuck and fuck hard. and after we lay and chatted for a good long time,both of us seeming not to really want to get up and return to the club. finally though we did and i happily paid the girl her fee with a deep kiss and i left for the sauna again to recharge and recuperate.
by this time things were getting busy. the sauna was crowded and the girls were all starting to prowl for their first session. a word of warning here. when the sauna gets crowded it seems it is very easy for someone to grab the wrong robe. best not, i would say, to put anything that you would not want to part company with in the pockets. i saw some poor guy running around looking for his eyeglasses as someone had grabbed the wrong robe while he was in the sauna. and as i guess that this is a common occurrence he eventually would have got them back. still, not something i want to deal with on a night out when you are trying to have fun and identify which girl you want to fuck. still, i guess with no eye glasses, at least for me, all the girls looks would invariably improve.
back in the bar things were hopping. lots and lots of guys and the girls were on the prowl. i took a seat at the bar and spent the next 3/4 hr. to 1 hr. being approached but not meeting anyone who sparked an interest. it is actually a good exercise in holding ground to just sit there and let the girls try to tempt you, and after a while i started to enjoy it. i tried to be as straight with the girls as possible, letting them know right away that i was shopping and it was up them to interest me, or not. most of the girls were very good humored about this and i found it to be a good approach and it told me a lot about the girl how she reacted and how long she tried to convince me.
perhaps the most interesting approach was “the twins”. these two were, as far as i could tell, genuine twin sisters. either that or with the aid of cosmetics and plastic surgery they had altered themselves to become twins. which ever the scenario, they came up to me with a strong sell sales pitch featuring the “lesbi” show they would put on and how one would lick my balls while the other sucked my cock. tempting? only briefly. they were both tall blonds with way too much make up for my taste and, as mentioned, way too much silicone enhancement to really be of interest to me. but they were entertaining for 5 minutes and damn they did try hard to convince with both sets of hands underneath my robe stroking little a into full erection. but when i jokingly told them that what they were suggesting was “against god” they gave me a smirk, withdrew their hands and snaked off in search of another client. i never even asked how much.
a short time later my second session was about to happen. what i find interesting about my second session is that the girl had such a definite approach. shiva, an early 20’s brunette girl from prague came up to me a the bar, took my hand and informed me that we were going to the kino to have a smoke together. no hesitation on her part. it was as if she knew that we had to do this session. i was still unsure, she was attractive but with a pair of enhanced breasts and some fairly shocking teeth. too bad she did not use the money she spent on her breasts to have her widely spaced teeth fixed. but i guess a girl has to have her priorities.
we got to the kino, settled in and shiva started to snuggle into me while looking around at the very public sex that was taking place in there. interesting. as the impromptu session started to unfold i guess i thought that as the flow was so far pleasant, i may as well go with it. and as she undid my robe and went down on little a i started to feel better and better. despite her rather scary set of chompers, shiva gave a rather masterful bj.
and then there was the public aspect.
isg member iseeu has told me quite a bit about the partytreff scene. while of interest to me, i always sort of wonder if indeed that this is something that would suit me. there is for me a bit of a worry that the public aspect of partytreff would not be conducive to a good experience. frankly, i was worried that little a might get all shy on me and fail to perform.
with this experience i found quite the opposite to be true. as we started to get into it i found that fucking in full view was sort of exciting. as i let shiva blow me i looked around and there was a fellow punter fucking his girl hard from behind and on the platform above us i could see anther fellow receiving a bj. at this point, to her credit, young shiva let me know (i already knew but it was nice of her to make sure) that were i to come in her mouth the session would cost an extra 50€. no danger in that though. while her bj was good i could tell it would not be good enough to finish like that without some pretty major hand support.
i turned shiva around and gave her pussy a good licking, the moans and rhythmic, slap, slap, slap echoing erotically in my head. then she hopped up on her knees, stuck her young round ass in the air towards me and somewhat forcefully demanded that i fuck her hard “von hintern”.
glad to oblige my dear.
it was a loud, enthusiastic fuck we had. her face down, head in a pillow and moaning rather a bit too loudly to be believable, little angus, in fine form, burying his purple helmet deep in her pussy which made a series of lube assisted pussy farts to keep us amused and adding to the general sex cacophony in the small kino.
it finished off as these things always finish. i am always amazed at how something that is so thoroughly predictable as sex can keep us as a species so absolutely in it’s thrall. it was a good session, perhaps not top but i did enjoy the public fuck aspect and shiva was an enthusiastic, if slightly business like partner. i happily paid her her fee but i could not help mentioning to her that shiva was, in fact, a male indian deity. this did not seem to faze her in the least sweet girl.
once again i retreat to the sauna/pool for a drink and a long deserved rest on the wicker lounge chairs. at this point i guess i was thinking that i really should call it a night. it must have been about 21:30-22:00 and something told me that the evening might have peeked for me. but, never having been one to listen to good sense, i rested, had another short round of sauna and headed back up into the fray.
the upstairs bar was hopping. white robes and naked ladies everywhere. girls posed and lured. men tried to appear nonchalant but steadily succumbed to the enticement offered and there was a steady in and out of the front door of the bar and up the stairs that echoed the frantic activity that was taking place in the quickly turned over and out rooms in the upstairs of artemis. most of the girls seemed happy and there was a festive, if somewhat frantic mood to the room.
angus took his place once again at the bar and tried to decide what, or who, to do next.
the english language, while on the whole a wonderfully rich and descriptive language, does have it’s holes and places where words fail to describe our experience. perhaps the best example of this is the word “love”. such a rich and varied experience, one that most of us grapple with for out entire life, and one word to describe the experience. another place that i find that the english language fails me is in describing the various states of consciousness that i find myself in day by day.
here i was, good sense telling me to leave, call it a night, but it was as if i was stuck, trapped like a fly on flypaper in that bar and i could not for the life of me listen to my more intelligent, rational self, hit the locker rooms, take a final shower and head for the s-bahn and home to my own bed.
i imagine that this may be what the consciousness would experience were it to be so unfortunate as to fall into the clutches of an interstellar black-hole. the body would surely be crushed. but perhaps the consciousness would experience that unspecific longing and unanswerable want that i was experiencing in the bar. the event horizon always just out of reach, seeing what you want and where you want to get to, but as you move towards it it surely recedes and the disappears in a puff, only to reappear just outside you grasp swaying enticingly, beckoning you over further, more surely into the dark abyss.
at some point i figure that one might as well surrender to the experience of being trapped in amber. so i started to prowl and feed the neurosis that assured me that somewhere in this bar was a girl who would satisfy my hunger and bring my restless soul to peace.
in fact i had two girls in mind, both of whom i had seen earlier and both of whom were no no where to be found. the first was a petite, young looking girl who could have been turkish or perhaps middle eastern. i had spied her earlier at the bar and was captivated by her small girlish breasts and the prominent sacral dimples on her lower back.
the second was a polish girl who i had met briefly on the stairs my first few minutes at the club and had assured that we would meet again later. she had a real “girl next door”look to her, no make up, a cute round bum and a serious pair of puffy nipples that i dearly wanted to get my hands and mouth on.
but she was no where to be seen. oh the injustice of it all!!
i prowled some more, sat at the bar, fended off easily the sharks who were not so hungry tonight, and drank an endless stream of cokes and mineral water with the occasional coffee. time passed and while tempted a couple of times to settle for one of the similarly prowling girls i stuck to my vision of one of these two girls and perhaps this was a mistake.
i did eventually see the turkish girl again and figured out that she herself seemed to be pretty fixated upon a couple of well muscled and tattooed turkish men who, i think, were tag teaming her in the kino.
the polish girl never did reappear.
finally i gave up on the idea and started to look for a suitable replacement. now i have to admit here that old angus has a weakness for severely skanky looking girls at times. this is not the sum total of my tastes but every once in a while i like to find a girl who looks down right whorish. these girls are usually, in the light of day, not all that good looking. and invariably they will be wearing way too much make up. but i spied one making her way around the bar and my interest was peaked.
she was perfect. tall (well with 6 inch heeled thigh high spiked white boots on), very skinny, small breasts, tiny bum, big puffy lip-glossed lips, way to much eye make-up, a net string skirt that, when she stood right, with some light behind her ,you could see a prominent pair of pussy lips hanging between her legs, and a small tramp stamp on her lower back. as i said-angus’ skank dream come true.
she stood near to me, i smiled and over she came. we were off to the races. i was under no illusions here. for me this was to be a purely optic fuck and i was not expecting too much from her in the way of performance. but i was pleasantly mistaken.
jessica is bulgarian and she was a surprisingly nice, if not a very present, companion. after a couple of minutes small talk, i myself suggested that we head for a room. i wanted to fuck her not talk to her. as it turned out we had to wait for a room and we did spend some time (10 minutes) in the hallway outside the downstairs kino rooms, chatting and with me feeling up her tiny, pert bum and suckling on her nipples.
in the room it was a bit of a hurried session (couples stacked up in the hallway) but i got to perve out on jessica’s bum, received a very competent deep-ish bj, give her pussy a thorough licking, had her diddle her own pussy while i watched and finally gave her a forceful fuck from behind with some very light ass play
in short-i got exactly what i wanted and was well satisfied with my optic and final fuck of the evening that released me from the artemis space time continuum and had me headed for a final shower and the out into the dark night to crawl home on a late night s-bahn and into bed where i was asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow.
so in the end what is my verdict on artemis, saturday night? i would have to say mixed. it certainly does have it’s advantages as the girls are all busy and happy and doing what they are there to do-fuck and make money. there seems to be less pressure on one of these nights and the sharks are all well fed and thus easy to recognize and easy to fend off. in fact they can even be fun to play a bit with as you sit and wait for just the right girl to show up.
on the down side though the right girl, if she happens to be popular (the polish “girl next door”), can easily disappear into the crowd and leave you with a “one that got away” feeling. also i did notice that by late in the evening the rooms, not the upstairs room but the ones by the kino, were rather well used and were not really being cleaned in any apparent way between sessions. yuck! you really have to suspend a normal sense of cleanliness here and realize the harsh truth and reality that the wet spot you feel as you roll accidentally off the smallish torn bits of sheet that the girls use to cover the beds, is in fact, at best, some other girl’s sexual fluids, and at worse, some other guy’s jism that has been spilled on the bed sometime in the last hour. as i say-yuck-and best not to think about it too, too much. but to take a long hot shower immediately after.
hope this does not ruin it for anyone. it is a fact of a busy fkk i would say and it is a poor soldier who will not fight a bloody battle.
over and out and until next time-hope you enjoyed reading.
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Great report Angus, was wondering if you could guess how many women were working on both of your visits? Was the lineup better the second time around? Any wait's for a room?
Angus Magee
11-09-08, 21:34
Great report Angus, was wondering if you could guess how many women were working on both of your visits? Was the lineup better the second time around? Any wait's for a room?
Hard to say. I would guess both time were about the same, maybe 40 women working. Maybe a few more last night. But that is a pretty rough guess.
Over all I did not see that much difference in the quality of women. Though the second visit, Saturday night, there did seem to more of the very large, silicone enhanced ladies present.
And yes, both nights, later in the evening a room wait was required, The first time we went to the downstairs kino and found a more or less private (curtain instead of a door and open ceiling) room, the second night was with Jessica the Bulgarian skank (and I mean that in the nicest way) who I snogged in the hallway while waiting for the same room.
After learning about the Berlin scene from this forum, I had a four week stay in Berlin and got to try out many of the places. I made it to Artemis three times, so here's my report on Artemis, with the other places in the Berlin thread.
I guess pretty a lot of what you need to know has been said here, so i'll try to focus on some things that I didn't read about here.
Artemis was the second FKK club I've been to, with the first being many years ago in Cologne. Since then I've mainly been to the Spanish and Czech style nightclubs where you can hang out at the bar or at a table and get to know the girls over a few drinks before you decide who to go with.
So the downside of Artemis in comparison to the nightclubs is that you don't really sit around and drink with the girls, unless you pay for their time that they spend drinking with you, and each time I did see a guy curled up with a little hottie, with a bottle of champagne on the table. So some guys do go that route. Mind you, although the soft drinks are free, and the alcoholic drinks cost 10€ each for a beer or a tiny cocktail, not paying for girls drinks makes for a cheaper experience overall. But that element is something I miss in Artemis.
My visits: The first time was a Tuesday night, good ratio of guys to girls with good quality of girls. I sat at the bar and immediately met a Czech girl with glasses who was happy to talk and didn't put any pressure on me to go to the room. So after awhile i wondered around a bit and while there were some "sharks" I've never considered them a nuisance. The girl comes and asks you to go with her, you say no, I'm not interested. That gets rid of 2/3 of them and for the persistant ones, I just say, i have no money or I just came out of the room and need to rest, or i'm looking for whatever is the opposite of them, (blond vs brunette, tall vs short, etc). The only girls i find annoying are the ones who see you already with a girl and ask to join in for a duo. No respect! On my 3rd visit there was a girl like that from Ukraine who wouldn't quit, but i'll get to that later.
So i went back to the Czech and now she had her Czech friends with her. One was the little darker complexion girl sitting at the bar who looks like she is a teenager (i think the one that angus mentioned). She is from Slovakia, maybe Gypsy. The Czech girl told me she was 23 but one of her other friends told me after that she was 19. Once I had a feel for the place i went up with the Czech girl. She was quite good, but she stripped down to completelu naked except for her glasses, took my dick and was about to start sucking, when I asked her, do you really need those, and took the glasses off for her :-) But she was very good doing owo and suggesting positions and pretty much doing everything she could to make sure i was happy. When she finished she said, let me know if you want to go up again later.
So back at the bar, i tried to buy a cocktail, but they told me i had to go to the reception and by a token. So i went out, bought a few tokens and sat down at the bar to survey the scene. It is really quite something with all the topless beauties, some completely naked too.
Finally i got stopped by a pair of girls who asked me if i wanted a duo. Neither was anything special, but they asked me to go in the cinema and I liked their approach. So I sat down with one on either side and immediately noticed the girl in the row in front of us going down on her guy. So I asked one girl if she could do that, she said OK and started to suck away. Then the 2nd one tried to get in on it and i said wait, i'm only paying one of you! So she got up and left with out any further comment. The one who stayed was a Polish girl who told me she was a student in mathematics and that after two more weeks she would be returning to school (it was early september). After a few minutes in the cinema i was postively warmed up, so we went into one of the rooms right next to the cinema and finished up.
After another drink she came back to hang out with me again and just stayed around talking. So thinking that she wanted to be social, i said let's go into the cinema again and you can suck me, but i have no money left. I didn't expect her to agree, because from my nightclub experiences in other countries, what happens in the room is what you pay for, and anything that happens before you go in the room is just marketing. But she said OK!
So we went into the upstairs cinema and it was pretty empty except for a girl who had been sitting across from me at the dinner table getting done in public in the back row. So the Polish girl goes down on me and some Russian guys keep sticking their heads through the cinema doorway to watch, so she said let's make a show for them, i said no i told you, i don't want anymore, and i have no more money, so she just said come on and put on a condom and got on! Well i have to give her credit, she really performed much better with the three guys watching and when we finished she wanted to get paid, in spite of what i had told her.
So I guess that is what is meant by FKK etiquette, if you let the girl go down on you, you must pay no matter what else happened before or after. I said, you didn't tell me i had to pay, and she said, i will call security with a big smile! So I went to Mr ATM and ponied up and felt good doing it. But she knew i was a newbie and took advantage of the situation. I guess that's something to look out for if you're not used to FKKs, but are used to girls giving you a little bit of extras sometimes. As I was to find out later, in Artemis, nothing is free and sometimes if you are not willing to stand your ground, you can end up paying for what you don't really want.
All in all that first night cost me 250EUR + 30 more for the taxi. But I considered it an evening well spent.
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Day 2: I was dying to get back to Artemis again, so two weeks later I was there again, this time on a Monday night. I think I arrived around 11PM and this time the ratio was not so good at all but I immediately spotted a tall, 1m78, blond beauty with a perfect body. She was one of the few Germans working in the club. I saw her lounging on a sofa all alone and asked if I could sit and talk to her and she said no. No further comment. So I went to the bar, spotted the Czech girl from my first visit, said Hello to her and her teenage Slovakian friend (who seemed glued to the same seat she was in at the leading edge of the bar on my first visit) and just noticed that Monday was not a good night at all. Nobody really caught my interest.
After about half an hour the killer German babe walked up to the bar and I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs and she said, no I am too tired! She went and stood at the top of the 3 stairs going to the little lounge area and just looked around. That's the problem with a really beautiful girl in an FKK, I think. If you don't get there early, by the time you get to her, she'll already be exhausted. But not to be put off, I told the Czech girl to ask the German if she wanted to go up for a trio. The hot German immediately agreed.
Here's another point where I'm not sure about the FKK etiquette. These girls told me one pop for 30 minutes. I said one pop each? And they said, no just one total. And I said I can do both of you? And they said, yes but only one finish. (on my 3rd visit two polish girls offered me a duo for 30minutes - which i didn't accept - with one finish in each of them, but they could have been lying, they were promising kissing, cum in mouth and one pop each without mentioning any extra costs)
Well, after we had all got naked, the German babe was not looking tired at all anymore and I guess the Czech noticed the sparks flying and was more than a little bit jealous. So while I was lying on my back she starts to suck me while I am just exploring the German’s hot body, but she had me in her fist and wouldn't stop until I had cum in her mouth which was not at all hard to do considering the goddess I had lying in front of me. But the Czech looked at me with a big smile and said, OK finished!
So I said i want to do her and pointed to the German. And the German said, OK 60EUR more for both of us. So I said we’ll see. We talked a bit and the German turned out to be “Jane” a 24yo student from Hamburg. She said she needed to work until the end of September and then she would have enough money to pay for school. Jane was really hot. I had been quite satisfied with the Czech on my first visit, but with jane lying next to her it was like a VW next to a Ferrari.
After the first 30min were up, I told the Czech I only wanted the German and she said OK, go take a shower and then come back. So I did, I came back and they were waiting. So once I got back, after the 30min waiting for that perfect 10, I immediately jumped on Jane and started going and jane seemed equally into it. I had just assumed the Czech girl would be dressing and getting ready to leave, but then I noticed that the Czech was still sitting there watching. So I stopped and said, I told you that I only want her (Jane) this time! I don’t remember what the Czech said, but she had some reason why I had to pay her too. I said OK if you stay you have to f… She just shook her head and said, NO, I will just watch. So Jane, who had been looking at her in shock, because she knew that I told the Czech to leave, just told her in German (which I understood but they didn’t know because I was only speaking English), that if she stayed she had to do what I wanted. So then Jane turned to me and said, OK you can fuck both of us, but you just have to control it this time! By now smiley was limp, so I stood up in front of Jane, seated on the edge of the bed (which in that room was on a raised platform) and she went at it like a champ, fast and wet with growling. So since the Czech was being mercenary I decided to let her be jealous and really got down to it with Jane who gave 110%. After I finished up fucking her standing from behind while she was bent over the raised bed, the Czech lied down on her back doggie-style spread open her pussy and said, come on come on take it! But I was rather disgusted with her, so I just let her suck me which didn’t work too well at that point. I ended up paying them 120EUR each, and I would do it again in a second. Jane would have been worth it for double that price. She was one of my best ever pay for plays. And while the Czech did pull a fast one, I guess you could argue that normally I would have had to pay 50€ extra for the cum in mouth, but she knew I didn’t ask for it. And she didn’t ask for any extra money either.
The moral of the second day in Artemis was, leave the ATM card at home, because you’ll always end up spending more than you planned in that place.
Day 3 tomorrow.
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Amorousman40
11-11-08, 00:58
Riposte to Angus’ report:
Great report much of which I can empathise with but I found it especially interesting as I was actually there on Saturday night. It was my third visit – I did 2 in early September. I had originally intended to go on Sunday evening but my hotel was only 15 mins away and though I arrived there at10.30 in the evening it was too tempting. I arrived about about 10.45 and the place was heaving mainly with Italian men. Perhaps there was a Messe on. I found it quite unpleasant changing.
As I was ravenous I went straight to eat. I take your point about the food being heavy and I find I need at least 30 mins before I could consider performing having had a heavy meal. After I eaten I walked around and had a few drinks. The place was heaving with guys so I was pestered by few girls and it was obvious looking up the stairwell that there was a queue for the rooms. But just to see the girls most of whom were completely naked and most v. sexy made the visit worth while.
The kino (especially the upper one) was a good place to go not to look at the porno films but to see the life sex going on. If you go to the kino expect to be approached by the girls. After about 2 hours the place was thinning out and I needed a shag and I decided on the woman I wanted to go with – she was a girl next door type with a beautiful peachy arse which I particular appreciate. I saw her going into the kino and went in but she had already saddled up to some guy with whom she was engaged.
I thought I would wait until she became available so I sat on one of the beds. I had not been there long before I looked up in the semi-darkness and there was a face looking at me. She looked at me and said: “I’ve been with you twice before and I’m Hungarian”. I then recognised her and said: “you’re Fana”. Now I know Fana hasn’t had the best of presses in this room and she is a bit of a shark but she is a nice girl, has a lovely figure and is a good performer, and for those who don’t speak German she speaks very good English and is very friendly. That’s the problem does this girl talk and beside I like to try out different girls! She said I’ll come back in a few minutes for you and she did and I really wanted her. Great session – first she warmed me up and then a great bbbj, then mish followed by doggie. It was a fantastic session – for someone who is quite shy to be performing in a public space like this was a novelty not one that I was totally at ease with but I was too in into the sex. And I really enjoyed. After that I decided to call it a day and went back to my hotel.
I made my second visit the next day on Sunday arriving about 8 with the intention of staying about 3 hours and having 2 girls. This time I intended to hit the ground running. Though I was approached by several girls, I eventually saw this woman sitting on the opposite side of the bar and was she beautiful. I would say about 25, blond beautiful face with a fabulous figure which gave me the most massive hard on. She was obviously one of the Queen Bees in the place and she didn’t actively seek out customers. I caught her eye and went up to her and asked whether she was free. I had no intention of loosing her. She said “yes” and put out her cigarette. Up we went to go to a room. Her name was Sonya and she is Russian. Really beautiful. She asked me whether I wanted cim but I said normal sex. I really wanted to fuck her. There was a quick bbbj and then I went into doggie. It took me about 10 mins to come but boy was this woman sexy. Eventually I came and my heart was thumbing.
I then ate and went downstairs to rest which I tried to do but I found myself prowling. And then I saw that beautiful peachy arse again coming out of the kino (the woman I had seen the night before) and I knew I had to have her. She was walking clockwise around the bar so I went the other way by which time she had sat down. I caught her eye, got a smile and walked up to her and she said did I want sex. She told she had seen me in the kino area early in the morning. We went up to the room and my hands were already over her especially over that peachy arse. Her name was Jana and she came from the Ukraine. The only word I can use to describe this woman is superb. She allowed kissing and got me warmed up first – a truly gfe experience. It was probably 10 mins before we started bbbj and was this woman fantastic. And what a glorious figure! I then took her in doggie. I always find the second fuck the best but I eventually I came with the most intense hard orgasm. It was one of the best sex sessions I have had in my life. After that I decided I felt totally satisfied and went back to my hotel. Put on the alarm for 7 and got the 9.30 plane back to UK this morning.
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One good thing about the obvious sharks is that they are, well, so obvious. As annoying as it may be fending them off at least you know where they are at.
... only shows her teeth when you are in the room.
If she is overly aggressive in the Kontakzimmer then that is fine. You can spot her a mile away and you know to avoid her.
Its the ones who are sweet and demure outside who are all business inside the room to watch out for. Its like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. Their mood changes. She takes a rubber band to tie her hair up and she goes into a routine: "You lie down. I will now do a BJ. Then you will get on top of me. And then after you come, I will make the bed and we will go outside so I can get paid." They go into upsell mode until they are in the room. You are committed.
Is there a way to spot these women? Probably not. I usually can tell though she is like this within ten seconds of entering a room but by then its too late. I try to break up her routine and her rythmn. I like intensive foreplay and if she wants to skip the foreplay aspect, I know she's got a process in mind and damn if I am going to change that process! If she reacts positively, then fine. If not, then I just sit back and make a mental note not to book her again.
the only "answer', in my opinion, to the undercover shark that hides it until the room (fortunately I have met very,very few in the zimmer, touch wood), is to practice Sperm management, enjoy yourself as best as you can, NOT get taken for any upsell and exit gracefully paying the contracted amount.
Immediately, write it off mentally and positively as having saved you from spending more on her with upsells, have a drink, and start scanning for pastures green. Every home run hitter knows that he will take a strike or two during the game but tries to minimize them. Same in FKK Land.
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... only shows her teeth when you are in the room.
If she is overly aggressive in the Kontakzimmer then that is fine. You can spot her a mile away and you know to avoid her.
Its the ones who are sweet and demure outside who are all business inside the room to watch out for. Its like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. Their mood changes. She takes a rubber band to tie her hair up and she goes into a routine: "You lie down. I will now do a BJ. Then you will get on top of me. And then after you come, I will make the bed and we will go outside so I can get paid." They go into upsell mode until they are in the room. You are committed.
Is there a way to spot these women? Probably not. I usually can tell though she is like this within ten seconds of entering a room but by then its too late. I try to break up her routine and her rythmn. I like intensive foreplay and if she wants to skip the foreplay aspect, I know she's got a process in mind and damn if I am going to change that process! If she reacts positively, then fine. If not, then I just sit back and make a mental note not to book her again.
West By Sun
11-19-08, 13:45
I have been in artemis for the fisrt time in middle November.
I had company with Maya of Poland, Sonia of Russia, Alissa of Poland, Losi of Burgaria. I saw some ex Frankfurt girls, for exemple, a very short dyed blonde Romanian. The problem of this place is the main lauge is too too too mauch smoky. I cannot be relux there. The dawn stair is in clean air and comfortale relaxing mood.
wbs
Frenchieboy
11-20-08, 19:19
I have been in artemis for the fisrt time in middle November.
The problem of this place is the main lauge is too too too mauch smoky. I cannot be relux there. The dawn stair is in clean air and comfortale relaxing mood.
wbsYes you are right but few girls dowstairs the best place to be in Artemis is to stand up at the entrance of the smoky bar in front of the 2 poker machine, in this place you can see all the girls coming back from the rooms, going down to the kino, believe me ;-D
Member #4285
11-28-08, 22:36
Hi all!
I tried to search the forum for some information how the line up is around december. I saw a post from Angus Magee that he thought there should be som new girls during the december. I would like to know what you all think is the best (hot girls) time to spend in Berlin end of a weekend? 11-14 december or maybe later in januari like 15-17?
Hi,
I was thinking of going to Artemis again. What would be better? This weekend--Dec.6 or in two weeks that is Dec.20. I will be out in the intervening week. My concern is that the chicas may have gone on holidays!
Member #4285
12-02-08, 22:33
hi,
i was thinking of going to artemis again. what would be better? this weekend--dec.6 or in two weeks that is dec.20. i will be out in the intervening week. my concern is that the chicas may have gone on holidays!so im not alone thinking about this.
of course there will always be som hot chicks depending about what we like and dont and whos asking. but there must be som peeks and downs even in this business. i hope some godfather here can tell us =)
but artemis is artemis, because its in berlin, maybe there are not any down periods.
so im not alone thinking about this.
of course there will always be som hot chicks depending about what we like and dont and whos asking. but there must be som peeks and downs even in this business. i hope some godfather here can tell us =)
but artemis is artemis, because its in berlin, maybe there are not any down periods.i think its a safe assumption that some of the girls will have gone back home by december 20. i know many of my favorite girls are planning to leave mid december and stay away until early/mid january. but unless you have specific girls you wanted to see, either weekend (6th or 20th) should be fine.
I returned to Artemis for my 4th visit today and was a little disappointed.
It may have been due to the bad weather or it may just be that I have not visited on a Wednesday before.
On arrival in the mid afternoon there were not very many girls there (maybe 15) and the male/female ratio was bout 3 to 1. Not only that I had forgotten that I had read on here somewhere that Wednesday's is a lingerie day so there was less bare flesh to be seen. Actually in some ways that is not true as it must have been large girls day also as most were quite buxom and not really my type
I first relaxed with a sauna and a couple of drinks before being entranced by Lekkie (not sure if that is the correct spelling) from Thailand. She gave me a wonderful 10 minute massage followed by some heavenly sex in 69, doggie and all prefaced by some incredible BBBJ.
I then spent some more time in the sauna and relaxing by the pool before meeting Ena form Hungary in the kino. We petted and she gave me some BBBJ in the kino before we retired to a room where she was not as good as Lekkie as she claimed that she was very sensitive to the touch so we only performed very limited DATY and tit sucking but riding her doggie was a really good experience.
I don't know whether I should post it here or perhaps in the Berlin thread, but later this evening I tried La Folie for the first time. I thought I had made a big mistake when I realised that none of the girls spoke English and my German is non existant. However I got into a weird English/German conversation with Marie and Bianca, eventually asking Bianca who was not a particularly stunning brunette to go to a room with me. WOW! That was my best decision of the day. She is a little belter. We romped around the bed in numerous positions and actually had more than the allotted 30 minutes without extra charge. We retired to the bar where she wanted to continue to cuddle and kiss at the expense of only a piccolo at 19 euros. I will most definitely be going back there given the chance to see if I can learn some more German or to teach Bianca some more English.
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Hi,
The trip I had was cancelled and I will be free on the 12th. However, there is a Messe (www.berlin-messe.de). Is this the infamous messe that makes Artemis crowded? In case it is how bad is it? Does it make sense to go in the afternoon of a messe day?
Cheers,
Roger
Hi,
I made a mistake with the net site. Here is the right one.
http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/website/Internet/Internet/www.messe-berlin/englisch/index.html
Roger
Went this evening (6th Dec) which is St Nicklaus day here in Germany. And to celebrate that, upon arriving and paying your money at reception, I was asked to roll some dice and what ever combination you got you won a prize - I won two free alcoholic drinks! (Normally €10 each).
The club has got it's Christmas decorations up and all the girls were wearing Christmas themed lingerie. (So lots of santa hats red thongs and red bras)
The ratio seemed to be very good tonight, though for me the quality wasn't quite as good - quite a few older ladies, and a lot of sharks. Got approached way more than I have in the past. (I think this is my 5th visit in about a 18 month period.)
For me, I like to sit on a sofa and watch for a while before making my choice. There was one cute small blonde (my thing) that I kept my eye on. After about 90 minutes (and turning down 8 to 10 approaches) I went for a wander and found her sitting on the arm of a sofa. A brief chat and introduction of names and we were heading upstairs. Normally I like to have a bit of a chat before going up, but not tonight.
There were quite a few rooms free.
Martina from Hungry.
For my preferences she was perfect. Small - maybe 5'2" long blonde hair, cute little bum, with pert size B breasts.
Once in the room and we were on the bed, she asked how long for, and I asked for 30 mins, There was no attempt to get me to go for an hour which was good. She got out some massage oil and told me that she'd give me a massage at the end, even if we went over the 30 mins.
She was very happy to kiss (which I like) so we did, and soon I was DATY which was great. She seemed to be getting really into it, and was pushing my head into her crotch. Great.
A bit of an odd BBBJ followed, which she would bob furiously for 10 seconds then stop and stare at me for 5 seconds then go back to it.
Anyway the condom went on - her on top for a bit, then me on top and then finished from behind. It looked amazing and did the trick.
This had taken about 20 minutes, and she then delivered on a great massage, really working on some of the knots in my back.
After paying up and getting quite a deep kiss by the lockers, I had a shower, then headed downstairs for my other free beer and a collapse on the sofa. Now it's non smoking down stairs it has made it a much nicer area, and I was left alone.
Instead of falling asleep on the sofa I headed back to my hotel.
An excellent trip.
I've got better at turning the sharks down now - some times they can be quite persistant, I think the trick is to say 'No I'm relaxing' or whatever very quickly. Unless she's floating your boat of course.
The rolling the dice thing was a nice touch too, and I did enjoy having a beer. (As I wouldn't normally pay €10 for a beer)
Hope this is of some interest.
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Martina, Hungary: great choice. See #357 below. Great to know she's still there.
Member #4285
12-08-08, 04:41
Martina, Hungary: great choice. See #357 below. Great to know she's still there.I will look it up. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Has Bean]The rolling the dice thing was a nice touch too, and I did enjoy having a beer.[QUOTE]What else could you win?
Angus Magee
12-12-08, 17:08
If anybody is in town and thinking about and Artemis visit tomorrow let me know. Perhaps we can hook up for a chat between ladies & sauna.
Let me know here or via pm.
AM
Angus Magee
12-14-08, 11:23
I paid another visit to Artemis this weekend (Saturday night) for a pre-christmas treat. It was the christmas party night at Artemis, which meant that all the girls were dressed in some sort of christmas attire, heavily concentrated on the naughty christmas elf.
I have to say that I found the line up this evening to be a bit disappointing. There seemed to be a high number of okay looking blonds. Girls who look okay at about 2 meters but when closer just seem to lose their appeal. Perhaps though it was the costumes which gave a sort of sameness to all the girls, and many of them simply do not look that great in red. Or perhaps it was just my typical christmas season mood of slight depression.
I did manage to meet up with fellow ISG member DkFatBastard at around 20:00 and spent a nice time with him in the downstairs bar comparing notes about the Berlin scene. He gave me a positive tip regarding Valentina @ KD that I plan to follow up on.
So at a round 20:30 I headed off in search of Giselle who I have been with on a previous visit and had decided to repeat with as she struck me last time as a very nice and sexually forward young lady. I had run into her earlier in the evening on the stairs with a promise to meet up later.
I cooled my heels for some time at the bar, fending off the ladies who were rather at loose ends as the was a higher ratio of men to ladies than I imagine is really good for their business. I had a chat and a cuddle on the couch with Shiva, who I have written about before, but was not tempted (more than just a wee bit) to carry through with a session. I have to say, to her credit, Shiva asked me at least 4 times last night if I was ready to have some fun with her and each time I made my excuses. She took my rebuff each time with grace and just said-well maybe later. A very nice and competent provider I just was not in the mood for her last night. You can see pictures of Shiva on the Artemis website.
At last I spotted Giselle and we went immediately to a room upstairs. I told her that I wanted to spend an hour together, which seemed to please her and very soon we were naked on the bed together. The only slight dampener was a rather huge bandage she wore on the upper part of her right breast to protect where she recently had a tattoo laser-ed off. No big deal but it was unsightly.
Otherwise the session was absolutely top notch. This girl like to be licked and she also gives a magnificent bj, wet, drool-y and reasonably deep, the later being her only area of possible improvement. And having indicated an hour session I found her to be very generous with the time. After and extended mutual fuck and suck (little Angus was literally swimming in her saliva) we lay together for a while and she gave me a massage that soon turned into more blow job (I did not have to ask!) and finally another deep licking. At the end of what seemed more like 1.5 hrs. I was completely satisfied and happily paid her
120 €.
I hung in for a while longer but nobody really caught my interest and so I left at around midnight. It was a good evening, pulled from obscurity by the lovely Giselle who I will most definitely be visiting again. She works regularly but (I believe) mostly on Friday and/or Saturday evening.
Hi,
I'm planning to travel to Berlin and from there possibly other German cities in early January, and while in Berlin I want to pay Artemis a first-time visit (actually it'll be a first-time with FKK in general! ) Before doing so, however, I've got some questions I hope to be able to get answered:
1. How does the S-bahn system work in Germany? I've seen some people say take S7(? ) to Westkreuz, but where is that and how do you get to Artemis from there?
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
3. Where and what is the kino? : p Or is it something I'll simply have to see for myself?
4. Is it common for the girls to give GFE? And I also see some people describing [French] kissing and licking the girls, or the girls giving a BBBJ. Are these things common in Artemis and other FKK clubs?
Thanks very much!
Rekarn, to answer your questions
To get to Artemis by S bahn train you can take 4 different trains S5, S7, S75, S9 going west. You get out at the station Westkreuz. Follow exit signs for Halensee strasse. When outside the station on Halensee strasse take a left and then walk for about 100m. Artemis will be on your left, it has a large red sign saying Artemis so you really can't miss it once you're near to it. I advise either before you get to Berlin or when you arrive at the airport get a map which also includes the S and U bahn train networks. When you look at the map it will be pretty straight forward.
For Artemis cost is €70 entry which includes use of all facilities such as buffet, pool, sauna, free soft drinks at bar etc. Cost for CFS in multiple positions is €60 for half hour. That should include BBBJ as standard. A GFE and DFK really depends on the chemistry between you and the girl, she is not obliged to give it. CIM is €50 extra, anal is €50 extra, I never go for these extras.
A shark is a slang word for a girl who is only after your money and is not interested if you end up having a good time or not. Generally sharks will be agressive although some may only turn out to be sharks once in the room. Generally though if you are careful you will end up with good girls. Try to concentrate on the girls who are non pushy and friendly and not the up front ones.
Kino is german for cinema (I think). Artemis has two small sex kinos showing porn (pretty low end porn). Some people like to screw in the kino for the view of other people.
Hope I helped you, happy hunting.
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Angus Magee
12-26-08, 11:41
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
I would say that the shark type FKK provider are a fact of life if you are going to enter the The FKK environment. Some (many?) of the women you will find at an FKK are there to make money, have a bit of fun and enjoy the sex. Others are there just to make money while giving back as little as they possibly can while up selling (extras) as much as possible. Fortunately we, as customers, have the advantage of being able to observe the women before we make our choice of who to spend time with. Thus I would say that the best advise anyone can give you as a newbie is to spend some time observing a girls behavior before you agree to go to the room with her.
This can be quite challenging when you find yourself for the first time surrounded by beautiful, mostly naked women all competing for you attention and all trying to get you to spend private time with them in a room.
Other than observation there are no real set rules on how to avoid the sharks. Generally it is better for you to approach the woman that interests you rather than waiting to be approached. That being said, I have also had some very nice sessions with women who approached me. So nothing is set in stone.
One thing to try is that if a woman does approach you, talk with her for a bit and when she suggests that you go to a room say that you are not ready yet. You can gauge a lot from her reaction to this news. An easy, “well perhaps later”, is a good sign. If she seems to get annoyed and tries to convince you, beware. It really helps to speak at least basic German.
Finding the right woman at an FKK takes a bit of perseverance. It is an investment in both time and money. There is a learning curve and you have to expect to make some mistakes at first. The important thing is to realize this and if you do end up with a shark (hopefully you realize early and don’t shell out too much cash for extras) just take the hit, pay the fee and carry on. Chalk it up to experience.
Unfortunately, many of these women (sharks) are very experienced at what they do and do, I believe, notice who is new and not a local, and target these men. Fortunately, though they are experienced, they are also very often also quite obvious. For me one encounter with a shark was enough to get the warning signs and now I find them pretty easy to avoid.
BTW-the cost for anal at Artemis is, I believe, 100 euros and not 50 as Mac75 wrote below. In any case there are price lists on display in the dressing rooms that give a complete run down on services and prices. Personally I find that the cost of extras at Artemis are simply not worth it. A good anal session can be had for half (or less) that price. I like to find a good, enthusiastic woman and extend the regular session. I find that much more satisfying. But this is a personal preference.
Hope that you have fun and remember to write at least a short report as a way of giving back for the info you get here on ISG.
Hi,
I'm planning to travel to Berlin and from there possibly other German cities in early January, and while in Berlin I want to pay Artemis a first-time visit (actually it'll be a first-time with FKK in general! ) Before doing so, however, I've got some questions I hope to be able to get answered:
1. How does the S-bahn system work in Germany? I've seen some people say take S7(? ) to Westkreuz, but where is that and how do you get to Artemis from there?
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
3. Where and what is the kino? : p Or is it something I'll simply have to see for myself?
4. Is it common for the girls to give GFE? And I also see some people describing [French] kissing and licking the girls, or the girls giving a BBBJ. Are these things common in Artemis and other FKK clubs?
Thanks very much!
1) You buy a ticket and get on the train. Don't get on a train without a ticket. The system works on an honor system. Controls are random and infrequent but fines are hefty and its not worth it.
2) Sharks tend to prey on unsuspecting newbies and employ various methods to extract as much money as they can using upsell or trying to minimize the time in the room and/or the amount of work they actually do. Or if they deliver any services, its with all of the enthusiasm of someone flipping burgers at a fast food joint.
Some women will try to milk you like they would a cow. Its a process to them. They rub, tug and then you are supposed to come. "That will be 50 Euros please." Then on to the net victim. If you foil their plans, some will express their displeasure.
Beware of women who are too aggressive with self-marketing or those who are visually stunning but have no customers. Test for chemistry first before you commit. Don't make a choice within your first hour of entering a club. Sit first, observe. Interview her previous clients if you can.
3) A Kino is a movie theater. Berlin is known for its Sexkinos. You go to watch a porno and you can also avail of the services of the women who prowl the aisles. Very, very sleazy. The FKK clubs have tried to duplicate the practice by installing their own Kinos to appeal to those who want the Sexkino experience but in cleaner environment.
4) No. Some girls are naturally affectionate and eager to please. Others harbor hidden hostility to customers. Again: check for chemistry. These women are not machines.
They will generally react positively to you if you are well groomed, polite, well mannered, showered and don't have bad breath... and if she can understand you. Some women don't want to deal with clients they don't understand. I personally am not keen on women I can't communicate with no matter how exotic she may look.
If she genuinely enjoys your company, she will bend all sorts of rules such as not pay any attention to the time you spend together, z. B.
Again, my rules of thumb for testing chemistry are: 1) If you smile at her and she smiles back, you have a nibble on your line and you should go over and exchange a word or two with her. 2) If during that conversation you can make her laugh, you will probably have a good time with her and you should seriously consider a session.
These rules work, by the way, with professionals and non-professionals.
As we've described here before, you get to pro status in this hobby when you can cast a glance and smile at a chick across a room, cock your head and have her at your side in a few seconds. Its like fly casting. I'm still working on my technique. The trick is to doing this smoothly and seamlessly: broadcasting your interest to the right woman and reeling her in without a word being exchanged.
Don't ignore her body language. If she appears disinterested, it is because she is. You will only have yourself to blame if despite this signal, you persist in taking this to the next step.
Some women aren't cut out for this line of work. You would be best off avoiding those women.
In the end, women like being entertained, charmed and romanced whether they are pros or non-pros. So give her a good time and you will be rewarded with what guys like to call GFE. Treat her like the furniture and you shouldn't be surprised if you get treated the same way.
Angus Magee
12-26-08, 13:29
1) You buy a ticket and get on the train. Don't get on a train without a ticket. The system works on an honor system. Controls are random and infrequent but fines are hefty and its not worth it.
And don't forget to validate the ticket (stick it into the little box in the general vicinity of the machine you bought the ticket in and have it time/date stamped). When first in Berlin I had very little money and I used to think I could get away with having an unvalidated ticket, thus using the same ticket several times. This lasted until the first time I was controlled. The controllers, a very stern bunch, saw right through me I am sure. I argued with them for over a half an hour, claiming ignorance. They threatened the police, taking my passport (yeah-right) and finally let me off with a warning, kicking me from the system. It was all so unpleasant that I have never once since then travelled for free. Though I do occasionally travel by bus on a cheap short time ticket and go a few stops past the allowed 6 stops (three on the UBahn).
BTW Rekarn, if you have not already done so check out my post from a couple of months back of my first visit to Artemis.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=807930&postcount=413
I think it gives a pretty good sense of what it is like for a newbie trying to find the right girl in an FKK.
I am thinking to go in the Artemis tomorrow while I am visiting Berlin. Do you think guys will be a good idea or I will just lose money?
I will have only this opportunity to stay in Berlin, but I can also go in the OASYS that is near my house
Other questions.
How much extra is a BBBJ?
And
What is the Better time to go there?
I'd like to thank everybody for their very detailed and informative answers, I really appreciate it. :) I'll definitely post a travel report when I get back from my trip. I have another small question I'd like to ask beforehand; are different positions (doggy, etc) included in the price or is it something you have to agree on before doing anything? And is there anything else I should see in Berlin in terms of FKK clubs or brothels?
BTW Rekarn, if you have not already done so check out my post from a couple of months back of my first visit to Artemis.Thank you for the link to your report, I found it really interesting and informative to read. So you buy the ticket in a little machine on the tram?
Thanks again everybody!
Hi,
I'm planning to travel to Berlin and from there possibly other German cities in early January, and while in Berlin I want to pay Artemis a first-time visit (actually it'll be a first-time with FKK in general! ) Before doing so, however, I've got some questions I hope to be able to get answered:
1. How does the S-bahn system work in Germany? I've seen some people say take S7(? ) to Westkreuz, but where is that and how do you get to Artemis from there?
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
3. Where and what is the kino? : p Or is it something I'll simply have to see for myself?
4. Is it common for the girls to give GFE? And I also see some people describing [French] kissing and licking the girls, or the girls giving a BBBJ. Are these things common in Artemis and other FKK clubs?
Thanks very much!Hi,
I went for the first time in October, and here are my answers.
If you are going by train get down at Berlin Hauptbanof (NOT Postdamerplatz) and take S7 going to Westkruz. The directions elsewhere on this site are very accurate after that.
To avoid sharks, I made a list from this site. I was thus able to avoid the sharks. All of whom approach you. I was approached by Bianca from Poland, Jana from Hamburg both of which I avoided. You can find details in my report on this site.
The kino is downstairs. If you are a bit shy to approcah it is a good place to lurk. With advance knowledge of the sharks, you can choose the girl you want to be with once they approach you. But definitely talk to them and see if you have a vibe.
Yes, if you avoid the sharks, these services are part of the standard experience. GFE will depend on your chemistry, but if you are well groomed and clean and friendly you should not have a problem.
Angus Magee
12-27-08, 10:12
I'd like to thank everybody for their very detailed and informative answers, I really appreciate it. :) I'll definitely post a travel report when I get back from my trip. I have another small question I'd like to ask beforehand; are different positions (doggy, etc) included in the price or is it something you have to agree on before doing anything? And is there anything else I should see in Berlin in terms of FKK clubs or brothels?
Thank you for the link to your report, I found it really interesting and informative to read. So you buy the ticket in a little machine on the tram?
Thanks again everybody!
Hi,
I’ll answer the easy question first. Yes you buy tickets from machines either at the entrance or sometimes on the platform itself. Some of the machines take bills but I always try to have coins as it is always easier and faster. Bigger stations will some times also have ticket selling windows during business hours.
Here is a link to the BVG (Transit Berlin) web site. It can be of help in planning trips etc. and it is in English.
http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/Bvg/Start
I would strongly suggest that you spend some more time reading the thread. Maybe you have, but from you questions I get the sense that you have not explored that much. The past reports are a gold mine of info, tricks and tips. And don’t limit yourself just to the Artemis board. For instance, on the FKK Palace board there is, I believe, a rather spirited discussion on sharks, how to recognize them, how to avoid them and what the species really is. Opinions often differ.
FKK is, I believe, quite different from other forms of mongering. To get the most from it you have to arm yourself with as much information as possible. And then just go and have the experience, make your mistakes and enjoy. It can be a lot of fun flirting with the girls and it is definitely a challenge to find the girl that really floats your boat and gives you the ever elusive GFE.
Which leads to your next question. Included in the 60 euro fee is 1/2 hr. of sex including bbbj and sometimes kissing. The kissing seems to be more discretionary i.e. how well do you get along with the girl. Perhaps you could demand that she kiss you but then what sort of kiss would that be. Personally I always find kissing to be rather more intimate than fucking and unless the girl is into it, why bother.
As for positions and position changes, again I think that this has more to do with your “click” with the girl and I guess your own skill and “game”. That is, I do not believe that there are any hard, fast rules here. If the girl you chose is good at her job she will want to see you have a good time and as long as you don’t want anything too, too intense (reverse, upside down pile driver might not be included) I am pretty sure that you will be accommodated.
I think that what you have to remember with an FKK girl is that many of them are there to have fun and good sex, as well as make money. Treat her as you would a casual date: Don’t assume things, be polite, clean (easy in an FKK, take a tooth brush and tooth paste), ask clearly for what you want, tune into her and notice what works for her, what gets her wet(hopefully) and be a gentleman. You will most likely then have a good time and, if you really connect, a really nice GFE.
As for other P4P in Berlin-again I would suggest that you spend some time on the Berlin thread that deals with activities other than FKK Artemis.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=668
I and others spend a great deal of time & effort detailing our adventures there and it is full of useful info and reports. Here also is a link to a detailed Berlin bordello/club report I did last summer.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48
It covers just about everything there is to do in Berlin for the well travelled monger.
But briefly-If you also want an experience with a Brothel girl I would suggest one of three places.
Kamilla Dee-over all the best brothel in Berlin with in reach of the ordinary monger.There is one other, whose name escapes me, where the rich and famous go (Sting has been there I hear) but the prices are through the roof. I m sure the girls are exquisite but....
http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm
Mon Rouge-I always have had good experiences here. If you can mange a visit during the week before 16:00 you will pay 100 euros for an hour of fun. The best deal in Berlin IMO considering the quality of the girls and the service given. Never had a bad session here.
http://www.monrouge.de/models_en.html
Nicky is a full on PSE but I don’t think you will find her there during the day.
Liberty-more reasonably priced but a very well run brothel. Again, I have never had a bad session here. Some girls I like better than others but they always deliver.
http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html
Unfortunately due to the holidays some of the best girls in all these places seem to be taking a bit of a break. But who can begrudge them that.
Have fun and I do look forward to your report. It is always useful to get a new perspective.
Angus Magee
12-27-08, 10:18
The kino is downstairs. If you are a bit shy to approcah it is a good place to lurk. With advance knowledge of the sharks, you can choose the girl you want to be with once they approach you. But definitely talk to them and see if you have a vibe.
There is also a Kino off the main upstairs bar at the back of the bar, opposite corner to where you find the dining room.
I think that if you hang in the Kino you really become a target for the girls looking to increase their cash with quickie bbbjcim etc.. That is if you just want to hang in there and observe (quite permissible as far as I understand) you had better be pretty good at saying no to approaching girls as you will be approached-a lot.
Angus Magee
12-27-08, 10:41
I am thinking to go in the Artemis tomorrow while I am visiting Berlin. Do you think guys will be a good idea or I will just lose money?
I will have only this opportunity to stay in Berlin, but I can also go in the OASYS that is near my house
Other questions.
How much extra is a BBBJ?
And
What is the Better time to go there?
It is hard to say if you will just waste money. For sure the activity will be a bit subdued as many of the girls will be taking a break and your choice of girls may well be limited. The girls pay the same fee you do to enter Artemis so if there is a perception among them that business will be down, more will stay away. The girls that are there are liable to be a bit more aggressive trying to get what business is there for them. All in all not a great recipe for a top notch FKK experience. All that being said, I am sure that some fun could be had. Personally I would give it a miss, but then I live here so I can always go later in January when things return to normal.
But if it is your only chance and you really want to go then go for it.
And yes bbbj is included in the 60 euro half hour fee. But not cim (come in mouth). If you come in her mouth it will cost you 50 euros extra. Most of the girls at Artemis are pretty good at letting you know this but it is good to be aware.
Hi to all ISG user and FKK Artemis guy!
I plan to visit Artemis on Saturday 17 January 2009.
I want ask if someone know about number of girls in the club. You think will be many girls still on hollyday or you think that the situasion is become normal like ever?
I think after hollyday girls are more relax. So I think that will be a good day but maybe Saturday night will be to much guy!
Angus Magee
12-27-08, 17:20
Hi to all ISG user and FKK Artemis guy!
I plan to visit Artemis on Saturday 17 January 2009.
I want ask if someone know about number of girls in the club. You think will be many girls still on hollyday or you think that the situasion is become normal like ever?
I think after hollyday girls are more relax. So I think that will be a good day but maybe Saturday night will be to much guy!
I should think that by then things will be back to normal. As for the number of guys, the only way to try to gauge that is to find out if there are any big events on at the Messe. That usually means a big crowd. But lots of guys mean lots of girls so it is not necessarily a bad thing to have a crowd.
I should think that by then things will be back to normal. As for the number of guys, the only way to try to gauge that is to find out if there are any big events on at the Messe. That usually means a big crowd. But lots of guys mean lots of girls so it is not necessarily a bad thing to have a crowd.I see in the Berlin Messe web site and I see that there are some event:
- Internationale Grüne Woche Berlin
- Heim-Tier & Pflanze Berlin
but I don't if is an important or not event! Well...I just but ticket for the airplane so...or I lose money of the ticket or I must go anyway!
I post my "Travel Plans & Announcements" in the right session of the forum on but I tell also in this thread:
I WILL BE AT THE FKK ARTEMIS ON SATURDAY 17 JANNUARY AT ABOUT 22.00; IF THERE ARE SOME ISG GUY WE CAN MEET AT THE CLUB AND EXCHANGE SOME WORD AND OPINION ABOUT GIRLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE!
Thank Angus for the answear...you are the admin of this thread?
Say hello to all!
Fichetta
hey angus,
certainly sounds like you are quite up to speed on the artemis situation.
it has been many months since i have made it to b-town, but i may have cause to be there during the later part of january.
the last session that i had at artemis was with a tall, stunning turkish gal named ellie. actually she was one of the best fkk sessions of 2008 for me. i'm curious if you know her and if you happen to know if she is still around
cheers and thanks for the info!
dedalus, who would hit berlin more often if stuttgart, frankfurt and nrw weren't so dad gum easier to reach
Angus Magee
12-27-08, 19:14
hey angus,
certainly sounds like you are quite up to speed on the artemis situation.
it has been many months since i have made it to b-town, but i may have cause to be there during the later part of january.
the last session that i had at artemis was with a tall, stunning turkish gal named ellie. actually she was one of the best fkk sessions of 2008 for me. i'm curious if you know her and if you happen to know if she is still around
cheers and thanks for the info!
dedalus, who would hit berlin more often if stuttgart, frankfurt and nrw weren't so dad gum easier to reach
well, i probably sound like i know more than i do;-)
i actually had my first artemis visit (actually first fkk) just two short months ago. but i have been 4 times since then and i am a fast learner. i have also been very dedicated with my mongering here in berlin the past 4 years and have, in total, almost 30 years experience with the hobby. much of the stuff one picks up in all those years is, i believe, transferable to any p4p environment.
and i love to monger. that is the most important ingredient coupled with the knack of just sounding like you know what you are talking about.
as for ellie, i have never run across her in my visits so far but it sounds as if i would like to. if you do come to berlin in late january drop me a line. i should be about ready for a another dose of artemis by then.
cheers
am
Well, I probably sound like I know more than I do;-)
Don't we all. ;-))
As for Ellie, I have never run across her in my visits so far but it sounds as if I would like to. If you do come to Berlin in late January drop me a line. I should be about ready for a another dose of Artemis by then.
Cheers
AM
Will do! I love Berlin, but get there way to infrequently. It is not that close to my coordinates, but the ICE Sprinter makes it a little closer than it use to be.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Thanks again for the answers, gents, they are all of great help! And many thanks for the links to the other threads and posts, Angus, I had a quick look and it did look promising! I will carefully read through the pages of the Berlin-thread a later.
Just another quick question...where is Liberty located in Berlin - is it Marthin-Luther Strasse 14 as written on their webpage on the Impressum-page?
Thanks again - this will be a great trip!
Angus Magee
12-28-08, 05:46
Thanks again for the answers, gents, they are all of great help! And many thanks for the links to the other threads and posts, Angus, I had a quick look and it did look promising! I will carefully read through the pages of the Berlin-thread a later.
Just another quick question...where is Liberty located in Berlin - is it Marthin-Luther Strasse 14 as written on their webpage on the Impressum-page?
Thanks again - this will be a great trip!
Yup-that would be the address. 2nd Floor.
I have been reading a lot of the posts here in preparation for my trip to Berlin in January. I have a couple questions that might be stupid ones:
1) What is the shower situation like? Private stalls or just an open area?
2) Do most guys go naked under the robe or would it be weird to wear shorts underneath?
3) Can you bring your own condoms or do the girls have their own they use?
Sorry if these are weird questions but i am curious. Thanks
I have been reading a lot of the posts here in preparation for my trip to Berlin in January. I have a couple questions that might be stupid ones:
1) What is the shower situation like? Private stalls or just an open area?
2) Do most guys go naked under the robe or would it be weird to wear shorts underneath?
3) Can you bring your own condoms or do the girls have their own they use?
Sorry if these are weird questions but i am curious. Thanks
1) It's a public shower resp. an open area (in the men's changing area). There's another open shower downstairs in the relax/sauna zone. There are no private stalls as far as I've seen.
2) Most guys go naked under the robe or towel. But I've seen (a few) guys in clubs wearing shorts underneath. Or combining towel and robe. So whatever way you prefer, this will be accepted. Btw: The locals claim to go naked under the robe (Nordrhein Westfalen area) or just with a towel (Frankfurt aera) to be the REAL thing, but you should be okay doing it a little bit differently. ;–)
3) Yes you can. But it's better to discuss it beforehand with your girl. For some women it should be absolutely no problem; however some prefer to use their own for whatever personal reasons.
Angus Magee
12-30-08, 09:37
I was feeling like a bit 'o something last night and so decided upon a trip to Artemis. I was also curious to see what a between holidays week day crowd would be like.
I arrived at 17:00 and it was very, very quiet. I spent quite some time (2 hrs.)
in the sauna/pool/downstairs bar juts relaxing and a bit of reading. When I finally ventured back up stairs things had improved some what but the atmosphere was still a bit subdued. Or maybe it was me?
I had a heck of a time finding anyone that I fancied. And when I finally did settle on a girl I made a very disappointing choice. Sorry I can not remember her name but she was very tall, slim, small breasts, nice ass. From Poland I believe. Now this girl was by no means a shark, after all, I made initial contact and all. And she did not change particularly in the room. But the sex was sub par. I guess there was not much sexual chemistry even though I liked her just fine on the couch.
She did give a decent bj, though I really had to be on guard as I could tell at one point that she was sort of trying for a shot in the mouth and the extra cash that represents. The fucking was also decent. But over all I got the feeling that she was just doing her job, if you know what I mean.
I paid the girl and then spent some more time in the sauna, roamed, had a few chats and almost sessions and finally just bailed on the evening. Home before midnight.
So my thoughts on Artemis on a low season night? I would probably give it a miss next time. I find that when the place is rocking, even though there are more guys and thus a bit of competition for the finest girls, the atmosphere is better and the girls seem more into the fun.
And as I say above, maybe this had more to do with my own mood than anything else.
....for someone who took an age to make your first visit to Artemis, even if this one wasn't a great success you've become quite an addict. :-) :-) Don't say you weren't warned. Thanks a lot for all the reports. Have a good 2009. Looking forward to more...
Angus Magee
12-31-08, 09:56
....for someone who took an age to make your first visit to Artemis, even if this one wasn't a great success you've become quite an addict. :-) :-) Don't say you weren't warned. Thanks a lot for all the reports. Have a good 2009. Looking forward to more...
Yes I know. One of my reasons for not hitting Artemis for so long was that I kind of knew that once experienced I would want to head back again...and again...and again...
But I console myself with the fact that, aside from the girls, I really do enjoy the sauna, which is top notch at Artemis IMO.
I have later on in January penciled in for another visit.
Happy New Year to you and all ISG readers.
AM
Entrance Artemis is now 80 €! See,
http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/index.php
Big30
I have been reading a lot of the posts here in preparation for my trip to Berlin in January. I have a couple questions that might be stupid ones:
1) What is the shower situation like? Private stalls or just an open area?
2) Do most guys go naked under the robe or would it be weird to wear shorts underneath?
3) Can you bring your own condoms or do the girls have their own they use?
Sorry if these are weird questions but i am curious. Thanks
1) Is not having a private stall a problem?
2) Most guys go naked under their towels or robes. I've only seen dudes wear underwear in clubs in Niedersachsen. Don't know why.
3) You can do anything you want. The girls always have an adequate supply of London brand condoms.
Entrance Artemis is now 80 €! See,
http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/index.php
Big30Gig30,
You're right! The entrance fee in now 80 euro! I'll we go to Artemis in midle of Jannuary. And I will pay 10 euro more from my last visit!
What I can say. The only thing that I can say is that I will expet something more from my last visit!
Happy new year to all ISG and Artemis guy!
Fichetta
Angus Magee
01-01-09, 13:24
Entrance Artemis is now 80 €! See,
http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/index.php
Big30
Thanks for the heads up.
I often wonder why Artemis does not have some sort of short time entrance for a reduced price. Perhaps a three hour ticket for 40-45 euros. As a berlin resident this would get me there a bit more often for a sauna and a single session with a fav girl. The full price ticket is rather a large investment in both time & money.
Are there any FKK that offer such a deal?
Thanks for the heads up.
I often wonder why Artemis does not have some sort of short time entrance for a reduced price. Perhaps a three hour ticket for 40-45 euros. As a berlin resident this would get me there a bit more often for a sauna and a single session with a fav girl. The full price ticket is rather a large investment in both time & money.
Are there any FKK that offer such a deal?
Hmm...
I can't think of any FKK clubs which offer a lower entry fee for a shorter stay.
Some clubs have deals where if you come in a group they reduce the entry fee per individual.
Some clubs have Happy Hour pricing where they charge you less if you arrive in the middle of the day or late in the evening.
Some partytreffs do offer lower fees for three hour stays versus for the full day. These are the ones which I describe as offering premium pricing. It is debatable though as to whether they are true PTs because these are the ones which don't offer any public action; everything takes place behind closed doors.
Then there are PTs which offer lower rates on certain days to encourage traffic.
Artemis raising its entry fee to this level is going to reduce traffic. Berlin may have the government there but it still is in the middle of a relatively depressed area economically. And Germany overall is officially in a recession. What are these folks thinking?
What they should do is encourage multiple visits by creating a frequent visitor program.
One other club this guy runs, F39 in Bochum, is in bankruptcy proceedings.
Doesn't he also own one other club besides this? I remember reading something on this topic somewhere.
Hessen Bub
01-01-09, 13:34
I often wonder why Artemis does not have some sort of short time entrance for a reduced price. Perhaps a three hour ticket for 40-45 euros.
Because theirs no competition and they don't have to and they want to make as much money as they can?
Are there any FKK that offer such a deal?
Yes. Harem in Bad Lippspringe, Sakura in Böblingen, Paradise in Stuttgart and some more.
HB
Angus Magee
01-01-09, 14:20
Because theirs no competition and they don't have to and they want to make as much money as they can?
Well I assume they have done the research and you are right. I'm just saying that a certain portion of their cliental might visit more often were there this option. And the way I see it they could have a three hour ticket that puts the onus on the customer to leave before the three hours are up or pay the balance upon checking out. I imagine that often they would end up collecting the whole fee in the end.
But as you say there is no real competition for Artemis and they probably are doing okay as it is. Perhaps with the recent world economic woes they will have to look at such options. As a consumer I can only hope and in the mean time pony up the extra 10 euros. I just hope they don't raise the basic half hour fee for the girls.
Angus Magee
01-01-09, 14:33
What they should do is encourage multiple visits by creating a frequent visitor program.
One other club this guy runs, F39 in Bochum, is in bankruptcy proceedings.
Doesn't he also own one other club besides this? I remember reading something on this topic somewhere.
They actually do have a ticket available for 800 euros that gives the buyer the 11th & 12th visit for free. Great, but you need to pay 800 up front.
They also have a taxi driver & seniors discount ticket on the low traffic days of Sunday/Monday.
http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/news.php
I guess that when I look at a place like Artemis it appears to be a money making factory but one never knows what the bottom line is in a place like this. I do remember that in their first year they offered a discount (40 euros for the month of December) to get people in the door. It seems to have worked and the place is quite busy even on a Monday between Christmas & New Year's Eve. When I was there this past Monday there was a very large influx of customers as I was leaving at about 22:30.
They actually do have a ticket available for 800 euros that gives the buyer the 11th & 12th visit for free. Great, but you need to pay 800 up front.
Fkk World has something like this as well, I think the lowest program was a 10 pass ticket for 470 euro's. So each entry is 47 euro's instead of the usual 65. They also have a two for three deal (two people pay, third person is free) that lowers the rate to 44 euro's (only monday thru wednesday).
but one never knows what the bottom line is in a place like this.I heard somewhere that the initial investment was EUR 10 million. Not a small punt by any standards. Their wet area is very good, the food is pretty OK by FKK standards, the place is well kept and clean, management is cooperative. A good selection on most days. Call me a Palace basher, but I don't feel too bad about the Artemis entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success.
Dick Travel
01-02-09, 01:41
Hi all and Happy New Year !
Speaking of which, having read a lot of this thread and particularly the excellent reports from Angus Mgee, I'm considering starting it off with a bang (or a few!) in Berlins FKK Artemis.
So, doing some planning and I've trawled this thread for hotel info but had little joy. I'm normally a cheapy Etap hotel user, you know what you get, clean room, good breakfast buffet, cheap n chearful. Can anyone recommend a similar place near Artemis and Kamilla Dee etc? The Etaps seem to be a little way from there. I could do some googling but am seeking any reccomendations first !
Cheers all.
DT
Angus Magee
01-02-09, 09:28
Hi all and Happy New Year !
Speaking of which, having read a lot of this thread and particularly the excellent reports from Angus Mgee, I'm considering starting it off with a bang (or a few!) in Berlins FKK Artemis.
So, doing some planning and I've trawled this thread for hotel info but had little joy. I'm normally a cheapy Etap hotel user, you know what you get, clean room, good breakfast buffet, cheap n chearful. Can anyone recommend a similar place near Artemis and Kamilla Dee etc? The Etaps seem to be a little way from there. I could do some googling but am seeking any reccomendations first !
Cheers all.
DT
Hi,
I am certainly not an expert with regard to Berlin Hotels but I know that there is an Ibis hotel very close to the Messe & thus close to Artemis.
http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/hotel-0657-ibis-berlin-messe/index.shtml
I have never stayed there though and have no idea how it measures up with regard to service etc.. Just that it is in the right location for your needs.
Hessen Bub
01-02-09, 09:39
I heard somewhere that the initial investment was EUR 10 million. Not a small punt by any standards. Their wet area is very good, the food is pretty OK by FKK standards, the place is well kept and clean, management is cooperative. A good selection on most days. Call me a Palace basher, but I don't feel too bad about the Artemis entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success.
Investment should have been around 5 Mio EUR. And they do not only charge 5 EUR above Palace for the entrance, they do also charge 60 EUR instead of 50 EUR for 30 min. "Call me a Palace pusher, but I don't feel too bad about the Palce entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success." ;-)
HB
Investment should have been around 5 Mio EUR. And they do not only charge 5 EUR above Palace for the entrance, they do also charge 60 EUR instead of 50 EUR for 30 min. "Call me a Palace pusher, but I don't feel too bad about the Palce entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success." ;-)
HBBub,
if we do meet one day, it's clearly going to be in Oase.... But let's have a good meal before we get there, OK? :-)
The decision to up the price is understandable, because they really have made a success of this place in a short time. It shows a lot of confidence. But I guess they are relying on the continuing tourist trade, because the locals - Angus of course excepted - are going to feel the pinch financially in the next couple of years. Mal schauen.
Dick Travel
01-02-09, 22:47
Angus, thankyou. It was booked up but I have made arrangements now.
For others planning on visiting FKK Artemis here are some useful links/info from my planning:
Hotel:
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Hotel Excelsior (4*)
Hardenbergstraße 14
10623 Berlin, Germany
http://www.leonardo-hotels.com/Berlin_Excelsior_Hotel
A cut above my normal ETAP standard but thanks to lastminute.com flights/hotel deal a reasonable price and looks quite good and very handily located. I also used a lastminute.com promotional voucher to save £20.09. I shall comment after my stay.
Distance from FKK Artemis:
Few mins walk to Zoologischer Garten for several S Bahn lines.
Take S5 ?3 stops Westbound to Westkreuz.
Then short walk...
http://www.fkk-artemis.de/images/anfahrt_gross.gif
or 7 mins by car (google maps -no i'm not renting a car, thinking taxis!)
or 49 mins walk to Artemis (google maps) - combined with a stop for coffee could be nice but...
Transport:
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from Schoenfeld Airport:
this page gives all options plus links to timetables etc:
http://www.berlin-airport.de/EN/ReisendeUndBesucher/AnUndAbreise/AnfahrtBusUndBahn/SXF/OeffentlicheSXF.html
easy option is Airport Express S Bahn
28 mins to HBF (then a further 4 mins to Zoologischer Garden for hotel above = ~35-40 mins total.)
All - plans posted in Travel Plans thread, PMs welcome if you'd like to meet up.
DT
Regarding the entrance fee for Artemis. Just thought I'd let everyone know if you don't know already that it is possible to leave Artemis during the day and come back later on if you wish and not pay a re-entry fee. Artemis is open 11am to 5am the following day i.e. a day is considered this 18 hour time period.
When I have gone to Artemis in the past I normally arrive about 2pm, have a session, leave around 4pm and come back later around 11pm for one or two more sessions. I find this pattern works for me. If I hang around for hours to build up sperm count and stanima I just get a bit bored (even though the facilities are good). I prefer to go off for a while and do something else then come back later.
When you are leaving for the first time let them know you wish to return later, they will take your locker key back off you, you sign a log. Very important to remember your locker number. Then when you come back tell them your locker number and name, they then ask you to sign beside where you had previously signed out, you get your key back and then good to go.
Just thought I'd let people know this if they don't know already as Artemis don't actively advertise it. I find it useful to maximise the time frame of the entry fee. Especially important now that the fee has gone up from €70 to €80.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I have been to Artemis two nights and there is lots of guys almost fighting to get the girl they want.
More and more desperat situation where the guys are standing out in the locker room waything to grab the girl on her way inn or out from the privat room.
This is not a nice situation and it is a real supermarked feeling.
There is not so many really beautifull girls in the moment but 3-4 is quite nice.
Kast week there was 150 girls and usually only 50 guys. The girls was almost crying as they told me.
Now it is oposite!
With 80 E for the entrence and 60 E for one session - then really nothing spessial when it comes to beauty of the girls I will focus on other clubs.
Hessen Bub
01-04-09, 16:25
Bub,
if we do meet one day, it's clearly going to be in Oase.... But let's have a good meal before we get there, OK? :-)
Deal. We could also order, pizza is not that bad when delivered.
HB
Hi,
Have heard reports that the number of girls goes down during this season. Was thinking of going this Saturday.
Would the girls be back by the 10th?
Or should I wait till the second half of the month?
Cheers,
Roger
Angus Magee
01-05-09, 17:44
Hi,
Have heard reports that the number of girls goes down during this season. Was thinking of going this Saturday.
Would the girls be back by the 10th?
Or should I wait till the second half of the month?
Cheers,
Roger
While no expert of the rhythms of the club I would guess that the later you left it in the month the better. I also ended up at Artemis this past Saturday evening after deciding last minute to go. There was definitely a significant shortage of women. For me it did not matter as I went hoping to meet up with a particular girl and quickly found her sitting alone at the down stairs bar right after I had finished a round of sauna and soak. We chatted for a while and then it was upstairs for an hour long session-which was great BTW.
I stayed a while after just to watch and there were lots of guys milling around the stairs as Dick1 mentions.
That being said, there were still plenty of girls to be had. You just had to be quick and not dither too much. There were girls hanging at the bar and I was approached by a number of girls. They were still looking for business in other words.
I think that one of the downsides of an FKK like Artemis is that one gets used to so much choice. It is pretty easy to start to get into a cycle where one is certain that "the next one I meet will be better, more gorgeous, better tits, etc.. You can go on like this all night and miss a perfectly acceptable experience.
Myself, I am thinking of another visit in two week on the 17th.
I'm hooked, I might as well admit it...
Bobby Jones
01-05-09, 20:37
Heya,
I'm going to be in Berlin wednesday morning and i am still deciding where to go. Artemis seems to be a pretty solid choice but i was also considering Kamilla Dee or Van Kampen.
I would really appreciate any advice since i'm new to this
Bob
I'm hooked, I might as well admit it...
Hey Angus,
FKK clubs are the worst thing this side of any hard drug you can name.
You'll never be the same after one visit. This a problem.
And is there an antidote in sight? None that I can think of.
As far as club rythms are concerned, there is speculation that the best time to visit a club is the end of the month. The guests run short of funds and have to wait for their next paychecks before they can visit again.
FKK clubs are the worst thing this side of any hard drug you can name.
...
And is there an antidote in sight? None that I can think of.Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?
Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?
This would be an antidote to this addiction!
Problem is that she may turn out to be more expensive in the long run plus you have to deal with her neuroses.
Problem is that she may turn out to be more expensive in the long run plus you have to deal with her neuroses.No cure without side effects.
Angus Magee
01-06-09, 17:03
Heya,
I'm going to be in Berlin wednesday morning and i am still deciding where to go. Artemis seems to be a pretty solid choice but i was also considering Kamilla Dee or Van Kampen.
I would really appreciate any advice since i'm new to this
Bob
I would suggest that you spend some time reading both the Artemis thread & the Berlin thread,and perhaps the Reports of Distinction as well. Then come back with some specific questions about the places/girls that interest you.
You will get a better response.
AM
Angus Magee
01-06-09, 17:04
Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?
Beautiful nympho GFs are much over rated. They are rarely faithful...
Leaving for my trip in a couple days and am anxiously waiting to visit Artemis. Before I left I wanted to ask if anybody had an suggestions on which girls to look for or which ones to avoid. I have learned a lot reading this board. Thanks to everybody who contributes.
Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?Definitely not! The FKK-feeling, i.e. being the small boy in a toy- or candy-shop, with two dozens of beautiful, slender, shaved, willing and naked elves all being at your disposal, unashamedly strutting and showing off their assets and willing to do naughty things, remains unsurpassed and, I have to admit, too, is highly addictive. To compensate for that feeling you'd need not only one but a harem of nymphomaniacs!
Or, as I once read in a completely different context: "Once you have pissed out of a box-car crossing the continental divide, you are hooked forever."
I know this hasn't got anything to do with the topic of this thread but I felt compelled to add these humble lines to the discussion. Have fun!
Xenon U
Angus Magee
01-07-09, 18:09
Leaving for my trip in a couple days and am anxiously waiting to visit Artemis. Before I left I wanted to ask if anybody had an suggestions on which girls to look for or which ones to avoid. I have learned a lot reading this board. Thanks to everybody who contributes.
I don't know but going to an FKK with a list sort of defeats the purpose of the FKK. The whole fun and point of going is to meet the girls and see if you hit it off.
If you read the thread you might find some hints but my suggestion is to just go and have fun.
But if you do want a name, I don't think that you can go wrong with Shiva. Her pics are on the Artemis website.
Angus Magee
01-07-09, 18:33
Or, as I once read in a completely different context: "Once you have pissed out of a box-car crossing the continental divide, you are hooked forever."
I know this hasn't got anything to do with the topic of this thread but I felt compelled to add these humble lines to the discussion. Have fun!
Xenon U
I have to ask, where does this quote come from? My guess would be Kerouac.
Ok gentlemen, I promised a report and here it is!
I'm still in Berlin. Right now in an Internet cafe on some street called Liebknechtstrasse (I think). And I'm staying for another 5 days, so more reports might follow.
I'll try to be as detailed as I can, and I'll try to avoid rating the girls because I'm the kind of guy who is only capable of objectively rating a girl as either 1 (bad) or 10 (good). Don't ask me why.
So after arriving very late on Monday, I had to abandon my plans of visiting Artemis that night partly because I was too tired and also because I had some hotel issues (the late flight screwed everything), and I got checked-in almost an hour before Artemis closed ( 4 pm).
The next day, I could "sleep out" and recover from the travelling mess I had during the night. I decided to take a walk around the area where I currently live (Savignyplatz) and also get familiar with the local transport, the S-bahn and U-bahn. Asked some locals about how to get to Kurfürstendamm, because I wanted to get something to eat (although I could've picked some other restaurant closer to me, but anyway). I found this Italian place on the corner of the street; it was clean and decent, and the food was quite good. I paid for the food and left for the hotel again to get a shower relax a bit. Now the time was about 4 or 5 am and I wasn't really feeling for doing some shopping as I had planned to, because the cold was really killing me after a while in the open. So I decided to head off to Artemis. I left the hotel and walked for a minute to the S-bahn station Savignyplatz (my hotel. Hotel Pension Elegia. Is located very near to the station). I took S7 (I think) to Westkreuz. Although I think most, if not all, the trains in that direction stop there. Which is just one stop from Savignyplatz (Charlottenburg is inbetween).
I must agree with everybody else here that have visited Artemis. It's extremely easy to find. When you get off the train, you need to look for some stairs with a yellow sign above it that says "Ausgang" or maybe "Aufgang", and just follow it up and then proceed to some other stairs with the the same kind of sign hanging above it. Then you get to some sort of a "tunnel" that you proceed through. When you're in the "tunnel", you'll see a big building to your left. Just around 60-70 meters away from you. With the sign "Artemis" (spelled backwards because you're on the right-back side of it). Then you get to a car park that you walk through and then you'll eventually see Artemis to your left, and maybe some cars and taxis outside it. It took me less than 5 mins. To walk from the station to the building. I walked in and was served by a brunette lady who asked if this was my first time. I said yes and she explained how it all works. Even though nothing of what she said was new to me, thanks to this community. I paid the entry fee with my card, so I would have more cash over for the girls (I had about 320 Euros when I got there), and got my robe, the little white bracelet and the key to my safebox and locker. I put my wallet in the safebox and proceeded to the changeroom, got undressed and had a shower. I then proceeded to the main bar on the same floor as the changeroom, and had a seat in one of the sofas there. One thing I did notice is that I got weird looks from the other men that were sitting at the bar, maybe because I'm quite young compared to them. I'm within the 20-25 year range, quite short (175 cm or 5 feet 9), normally built physically, and I'm certainly no Brad Pitt, but I'm not really "bad" looking either. These "weird looks" would repeat themselves wherever I went, but not from everybody. I noticed that most of the men there were old enough to be my father or grandfather even. On top of that, I was alone in Artemis, and most of the men I saw spoke fluent German and showed no interest in talking English or talking to others whom they knew where non-German.
I didn't mind and ordered a drink, went back to my sofa, and was immediately approached by a dark-haired girl Eastern European girl (maybe Romanian? ) and her blonde friend, whom promised me a great time, etc. I kindly declined, saying that I just got here and wanted to relax first, and said "Maybe later". If I remember correctly, one more girl approached me whom I also kindly said "Not now" to. Then later on this 25-year old blonde girl from Poland, Bianca, approached me and started touching me a bit and asked what my name was, etc. I asked her the same and we had a short 2-3 minute talk before heading off to the kino on the same floor, where I had planned to only get a blowjob from her and then proceed on to a room. We ended up having two sessions in there. She put her towel on the back-end big "sofa" and asked me to lay down. "Sure", I said. Then she proceeded by slowly "walking" up to me on her knees, facing me and we exchanged some tongue for a while, all while I was touching and squeezing her tits (natural, they were nice). Then she opened up her bag and took out a condom and put it on me and proceeded with a blowjob. I had initially thought about a BBBJ, but I didn't really mind considering this was my first session ever, actually the first time I was with a professional ever period. She sucked me hard and then we switched positions and I fucked her fast from behind for a while. Then I lay down against the pillows on the wall and she started riding me, first facing me while I squeezed her tits again and then from behind (with her ass facing me). This was such a joy. Then I proceeded to missionary which was so-so and then finally doggy again when I came "unexpectedly". This must've been after around 10-15 mins. And I was feeling a bit embarrassed to go out to the bar again after "only" such a short time. So I said "let's have another session" and she agreed, switched condoms and proceeded to sucking me again. Then I did her doggy style again, but this time with less energy than before and with a thirst in my mouth. And this time it was much harder for me to finish, and she would have to suck me hard and ride me well to get little R excited again. During doggy, I took my cock out and felt her ass and watched her pussy and put my finger in it, not knowing that it's apparently an extra 50 Euro if you do. She didn't say anything, but discreetly moved her body up so that my finger would slip out. During this time another girl came in to the kino, an Eastern European brunette whom looked good, and from time to time she looked back at us having a go, as if she was jealous or wanted to hop in. Then another gentleman came in and saw us working it and stayed for a while with his drink. I then think he was approached by an Asian. Probably Thai. Girl who asked where he was from. Holland. And I think he eventually kindly declined her offer of going to a room, which seemed to make her disappointed. I once again finished her in doggy style, and she removed the condom with a piece of paper and gathered her stuff to proceed out of the room. There was not much GFE in this session, we did exchange some tongue and she did kiss my chest, but that was it. Other than that, she was more or less asking me what to do, and during the sessions there were some moaning that to me seemed fake. We went out, I went to the bar to have a drink, and then we went to the safebox and she got her 120 Euros. Worth it? I could've probably gotten better sex from someone else, but I wasn't complaining. Would I repeat? I don't think so. Something struck me while I was lying in my hotel bed and that was that I had heard about Bianca somewhere else before, and then I figured she was might've been one of the sharks I was warned not to go with. At least I think so. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this girl. Anyway, now I had a seat in the bar and waited for a while, tried to gather my strength again, rejected a few girls, had a walk around the club, went down the stairs and saw some fine girls lying on the sofa right under the stairs, but I wasn't really interested just yet and proceeded to the right and found the gym. I lifted some weights for a while and then proceeded to the kino near the gym, and saw an older gentleman sitting there. I took a seat in a sofa behind him and had a snus (http://en. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus) (I was probably the only one in the to use it), and watched the porno movie on the screen with those typical Central European Private male porno stars. I left after five minutes and explored the area to left when you descend the stairs, I. E. The area with the pool, the sauna, bio-sauna, Hamam, etc. I proceeded to the bar and had a another drink, sat down in one of the sofas there, and was after some time approached by a rather cute Bulgarian woman with brown-red (coloured) hair. I can't remember her name, but she must've been 5 feet 9 or 10, a cute face, a body with a little fat on her bones (I. E. Not that slim, but not "fat" either, normal kinda), quite saggy tits but they were OK. She began to talk to me in German and I said "sorry, I don't understand German", and she switched to English. We talked for a minute or two, and she soon realized that I wasn't interested. Not because it was something wrong about her, OK, there were probably other finer woman around, but because I was still recovering. Believe it or not, despite my young age I can't have sex too often. I have to drink and/or eat and relax inbetween. I ordered another drink and had a seat at the bar, never looking any girls in the eyes so I didn't get too many offers, and then had another walk around the club, "tested" the sauna, checked out the kino near the gym and those rooms beside it (which I don't know what they are), and then lied down on one of those flat chairs beside the pool. Most of the girls that came down to the wellness area would touch my hair (I've not got such short hair as most other men had) and then say something like "hey baby, wanna go" or if it was someone I had recently rejected with the line "maybe later", "what about now then? " I kindly explained to them all that I wanted to relax. After a while, some blonde woman entered the pool and went to the bar looking for customers I guess. Then she was heading back and spotted me, and came to my chair, sat down beside me and asked me how I was. I said "fine. A bit tired though". She smiled and said OK and then asked what my name was. I answered and asked her the same. She was Ella, a 27-year old blonde from St. Petersburg, Russia. And she had one of the best asses I saw in the club and certainly one of the best asses I ever saw. She was maybe 5 feet 8 or 9, I. E. Almost my height, she had a very tight body, short hair, and a quite cute face. We talked for a little bit, I told her my age (which seemed to surprise her) and where I was from, and then I agreed to go with her, but not before asking if "French kissing" was allowed. She asked "What's French kissing? If you mean French as in blowjob, then sure" I said no, kissing with tongue. She said "Oh, yes, sure! " And also explained that I would get a BBBJ or a CBJ, whatever I liked the most. Before we went up the stairs to get a room, I had to visit the WC and she kindly waited outside for a min. Then we proceeded up, got a quite nice room, she arranged it nicely for me to lay down with the pillows and all, and then proceeded by gently kissing my chest and my body, and then "moving up" towards my mouth and we started kissing with the tongue and some deep-kissing, all while I was feeling her tits (she had silicone I think, but it didn't bother me) and massaging her arms and body. Then she gave me one of the best BBBJs I've had in my life and one of the best I had there, licking and gently biting them. She was clearly sucking with passion and did all she could to make me happy, and then moved her sweet tight ass around to me and let me dine at her Y for a long time all while she still sucked me with that same passion, and we would do this (69) for such a long time that I had to extend to 60 minutes to actually get to fuck her. I didn't mind at all though, I was in heaven with a fine woman who gave me a real genuine GFE. She then moved up so that she would sit at my face, and I would do some more dining for 5 mins. Before switching to doggy. Seeing her awesome ass right in front of me like that was such a joy that I cannot describe with words. It was just perfect. I put my cock in there and took it easy at first, feeling her nice pink pussy out and then took it out and used my fingers to "expand" her pussy lips and just enjoy the sight. Then I put it in again and did her fast. She moaned and also seemed to enjoy looking at herself being taken from behind in the side-mirror. We then switched to missionary and I once again took it easy for half a min and then gave her all I had, and then paused for a bit and started having a really nice and wet DFK with her while I fucked her slowly and felt her tits or massaged her arms while they were around me. I couldn't actually believe I was doing this with this woman. I then took her legs and put them on my shoulders and again tried my best to do her fast. We then switched place so that she was lying with her face towards the door, and while still in missionary, I would give her the last bit of energy I had left and then finished off while she was moaning, touching her tits and my arms. We then DFKed some more and I then took out my totally exhausted cock out of her pussy. She helped me to remove the condom, I lay down on the bed while she was sitting beside me and we talked for about 10 mins. She was really a cool and nice girl. She joked about my cock still being rather "active" like "Oh, he's still up! " while she was smiling. I then felt her tits again and touched her body and we then proceeded out to the safebox where I happily paid her her 120 Euros and also tipped her with another 10 Euro bill. We then kissed each other goodbye and I had a long shower. My cock had at this point had enough, it felt, and I took my robe and got down to the pool again and ordered another drink, listening to two girls talking in German and laughing out loud with the bar woman and the masseur. I would spend most of my time here and have drinks and reject girls, although it was one girl I actually would want to have had a session with but I feared little R wasn't ready. Her name was Miriam, she had a very nice and by the looks of it squeeze-friendly body and ass, red hair and a cute face. I think she was German IIRC. She was very social and started talking to me, constantly joking and from time to time indirectly or directly suggested that she wanted to have a go, like when she asked why I was sitting her or something along that line and I responded "I'm tired and need to relax" and she jokingly said "Oh, so I have no chance then? " I said "Sure you do, but maybe later". This time I actually meant it. Maybe later. I was sorry that she wouldn't return to this bar to fish me up again. I then spent some tens of minutes at the chairs along the pool again and was again approached by girls who touched my hair or directly infront of me, and one or two of the girls. Both Eastern European brunettes, one being from Moldavia, I wanted to try out but just wasn't ready yet. That's the sorry part of my first time at Artemis. There were so many women around whom I really wanted to have a go with, especially Miriam and those two brunettes. But when they came, I wasn't ready and when I was ready I didn't see them.
So now I was ready, it felt, and after a while this tall blonde woman approaches me saying something in German. I'm still sitting by the wellness bar. I say what I always say. "sorry, I don't understand German", or "sorry, no German", and she then switches to English. Her name was Annabella and she was from Lithuania. I would never have guessed that based on her looks. She didn't really look Eastern European at all, but she did have a very beautiful model-like face. We began to talk and although I didn't actually feel like spending my last session with her and tried to say so multiple times at the beginning, she would stick on to me but not like a shark would do. She wanted to talk about something else and made no mention of going to a room after she knew I was tired. So we were sitting there talking about everything and she seemed very smart and descent. We must've spent 20-30 mins. Talking and I then knew there was no return. I can't spend 20-30 mins of her time and not do anything, she could probably easily have fished up other clients during that time. So then again, she makes the mention of going to a room and I say "Can we go after five minutes, I want to finish my snus" (I had showed my snus package to her earlier). So we sat for another five minutes and then I spit my pinch out into the "used portions"-storage of the snus package, and we moved up. I then noticed how tall she was and got a chance to see her ass. Which was rather large, but still fine and so was her body. She grabbed my arm like I was her date for the day or we were a couple, and she then found us a nice room. She told me to lay down and make myself comfortable, and so I did. She then kissed my chest and my body, just like Ella had done a few hours before her, and also just like Ella gave me a good chance to exhange my tongue with hers. She then moved down and gave me a real top-notch BBBJ, licking and biting my balls. Then she moves on to fetch a condom out of her bag and then uses her mouth to put it on my cock. That was nice and something out of the ordinary for me, heh. Then she begins to ride me while facing me which was nice and then we switch to doggy which is somewhat of a new experience for me considering the fact that she was bigger than me, but her ass was nice nonetheless and I did her doggy for a while and then did her fast for a while, but she said "Baby, not so fast. " So I slowed it down. Then I notice little R isn't really as battle-ready as he should be, so I ask her to suck me again. Said and done, she takes of the condom and sucks me again and asks if I want to come in her mouth. I'm not usually so into that and paying another extra 50 Euros, but I said "Sure" anyway. However, there would be some time before I actually finish. So as she sucks me off really well and licking and touching my balls, she seems to notice I'm not gonna come soon. I can see she's really trying her best to make me finish, but it's just not gonna happen soon. So as she begins to grow more frustrated, I tell her we extend to 60 minutes and that she doesn't have to hurry as I'm not. She says OK and takes it easy, treating my cock and my balls (which have already both taken a beating by Bianca and Ella, especially Ella). Then after a while, maybe 5 mins. , I want to fuck her again in doggy and she agrees, snaps out a condom and once again puts it on my cock. We're in this position for a little while and she doesn't seem to enjoy herself, so I think "What the hell, I'll just try to come soon" and lets her do the work by once again giving me a BBBJ and a good balls-treatment. She really tries her best and we're running out of time soon, so she grows even more frustrated now and I think begins to question whether it's something she's doing wrong. She jerks me off for a while and I then tell her to "suck it". This made her almost lose it and says "Don't tell me what to do! I know what to do! Or maybe you want to finish yourself and I call security? ! " I was almost chocked to hear this and calmed her down and got my suspicions confirmed that she believes it's her. Not me. That's the problem. I apologize if I offended her, tell her to relax, and also explain to her that I've had three sessions today already and that it's hard for me to finish if I've had as much sex as I had today. She first looks at me with her eyebrow looking like this . As if I she didn't believe me. But then does relax and says "OK, I understand" or something like that. She then continues the BBBJ with her hand and mouth around my cock, and we try lots of stuff but I'm just not getting there. She suggests I do it while she has her mouth around the top of my cock, and we try it but it unfortunately isn't working. I then suggest she stand doggy in front of me while I do it myself, and this turn out to be working. I am close to coming and tell her to come here to my cock, she quickly does so and takes care of the rest of the jerking (and sucking) to make me come and I blow my load in her mouth, but she does that open-mouth-to-let-sperm-out-trick and only gets a portion of my cum in her mouth I guess. Nevertheless, it was really, really nice. I then lie there for a minute while she smiles and wipes off the cum of her face and then wraps my cock in a paper too. She's suddenly much happier and tells me "We'll both have a smoke now! " I respond by telling her that she can have a smoke and I can have a snus, and she repeats what I say ("OK, you can have a snus, I'll have a smoke") while smiling. We then spend 10 mins. Talking and she then says something that I don't get, but we then head off to the safebox. Again with our arms connected to each other. And I give her 170 Euros for the 60 mins. Of sex plus the CIM. So we're in the safebox area and she says something in German to a woman in the reception, and then heads off to talk to her. That's good, because I just noticed that I was short on cash and had to try out the cash-machine they got the near entrance to the stairs and the main bar. This was a huge gamble. Had it not been working, I'd be in trouble and she'd surely get pissed off. But it did work!. And I withdrew another 240 Euros from it, and managed to sneak behind her to the safebox area, although I think she saw me on my way back but not what I did before. So then I give her her 170 Euros. She then explicitly asks for a drink tip, which I don't mind giving her because she did give me two good sessions and some GFE (tongue-exchange, some DFK, squeezing her tits, carefully slapping her tanned ass, etc.) So she gets another 10 Euros and then smiles, kisses me and then I lock the wallet in and she kisses me again. This time it's a goodbye kiss. I then walk down to the wellness bar to get a drink, because I don't "dare" going into the main bar where all the girls are and I'd probably have to reject a lot of the new girls that have arrived for the night shift (20:00-05:00 pm). So I have a drink, relax a bit at the bar downstairs, then decide it's time to leave (by now the time is about 1 pm), and on my way back up stairs, I'm stopped by a pair of girls. One blonde, the other black-haired. The latter is apparently from Slovakia and is OK, but I try to explain to her that I've got no energy left for her, especially not her and her blonde friend as she was suggesting. So she tries everything to get me, that is, she tries to disprove anything I say to get away. That was a little annoying and in the end I just laughed at it all. Then she caught sight of a Turkish man whom she jokingly called "Turkish Sultan" and tries to flirt with him, but he wants to get up and doesn't stop and he then secretly points at another probably German man in his 50's who's "idling" at the staircase. I see my chance to get away and continue upstairs, get my final shower, get dressed and turn in the robe and the slippers. Then I proceed down to the reception to turn in the key and the other thing, but forgetting to fetch my wallet. Fortunately enough, the woman asked me if I had cleared my safebox and the fact that I hadn't totally caught me off-guard. I get my key again and go fetch my wallet, then on my way out I thank her very much, hop into one of the cabs outside and return home. The cabfare is about 8 Euros to my hotel, which's close to Savignyplatz. I give him 10 Euros and call it even, get into the hotel room and prepare for the night as I was very tired. Then I think of the stuff I did and the stuff I could've done in Artemis and this keeps my awake and eventually I'm suddenly not tired again, and slap on the TV and find they're showing the fictional movie about the Secret Service-agent who was a traitor, but dubbed with German voices.
So, to sum it all up:
Bianca
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Age: 25
Nationality: Poland
Characteristics: Blonde, tall, nice body
GFE: Not really
Repeat: Probably not
Sessions: 2
Additional services taken: None
Cost: 120 Euro
Ella
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Age: 27
Nationality: Russian
Characteristics: Blonde, quite short, very fit and nice body
GFE: Absolutely!
Repeat: Definitely!
Sessions: 2
Additional services taken: None
Cost: 120 Euro plus 10 Euro tip
Annabella
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Age: 25-30
Nationality: Lithuanian
Characteristics: Blonde, tall, maybe a little chunky body, but nevertheless a fine ass and nice natural tits
GFE: Sort of
Repeat: Maybe
Sessions: 2
Additional services taken: CIM
Cost: 170 Euro plus 10 Euro tip
All in all
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Entrance fee: 80 Euros (paid with card)
6 sessions, 3 girls: 120 Euros + 130 Euros + 180 Euros
Sum: 430 Euro
Was it worth it all? Absolutely. Will I go today, now that I've spent 2 hours writing this report in this cold Internet cafe? Maybe. It's really cold outside and I can't do any of the "casual" sightseeing/shopping things I planned to do now. It all depends on little R.
PS: If any ISG:er is planning to be in Artemis within the next 5 days, let me know and we could perhaps meet up there. Or if you see rather short (175 cm or 5 feet 9), young (20-25) with dark-brown hair and pale skin, come forward and we can have talk and exchange our experiences that night. Ciao!
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I have to ask, where does this quote come from? My guess would be Kerouac.Sorry to disappoint you, Angus. The quotation sounds like Kerouac, but its origin is rather profane. It has been taken from a wonderful book about hobos (Michael Mathers, Riding the Rails) which, incidentally, is still available secondhand from Amazon (I've just checked it). It is full of similar wisdoms. How about this one? "You find sympathy between shit and syphilis in the dictionary. " Could have been Kerouac as well, couldn't it?
Apologies to all readers of this thread for misusing it for something completely off-topic. It shall not happen again.
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