FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Katinka]

She also told me I had a great anal penis, it took me 2 days to realize. That it wasn't a compliment.John, I know that this is not directly on point, but years ago, I was having an affair with a married girl. One night, we were having anal sex, and she remarked,"my husband would kill to do this, but he is to big."

I would NOT trade my "great anal penis" for a nine incher. PERIOD.

[Rocketboy0]

I would NOT trade my "great anal penis" for a nine incher. PERIOD.OK-I withdraw the offer.

[Kimino]

About the Pam / Sandra thing.We should pull out the name Sandra from the game (so not to confuse others) , don't even know how this started. Was with Sandra again last night and she is a great performer and nice girl. Probaby early thirties, tatoo on her right leg, blue eyes, blonde with a piercing in her nose, not the greatest of the bodies (if compared to some of the stunners walking around in Artemis eg. Nadja) , quite voluptuous.

Fun meeting up with UffeTuffe69, Rb and a couple of others. Good vibe at the club a lot of girls also in the early hours. My BG Favorites team, completely missing. Went with Nadja after about a year and had a great time, I should repeat more frequently. Wasn't sure about it but tryed Alexandra, Romanian, petite, long curly hair. Had a 30min plain vanilla session, fully enjoyed. Nice girl, will repeat. Closed the night with Esther (as many other times) , Czech, curly hair. Left the room at 4:45am with a big smile on my face.

Cheers.

Kimino

[Laotse]

Hi there!

Does anyone know where Annika is?

[Member #4347]

Hi Kimino,

Its great to hear you had a great stay yesterday. I hope we meet next time. I had been there the day before and the girls line up was ok but not great. I went only with Nadja / Nadia and I enjoyed our time pretty much as always. I agree she is a stunner and compared to a lot of the girls she has such a nice walk and I do love her style. However she is surely not the choice for those men who want to be more passive or who want a wide range of extras. But that doesn't concern me because I do like her a lot and I feel always good when she is around with her gorgeous and relaxed attitude. Alexandra is very cute and I have been with her only once a few months ago. We got on well with each other and she is always smiling and saying hi when she meets me so I might book her again too. I also know Esther but never been with her.

Besides Nadia and speaking about looks and style only I like Aylin (German Turkish) , Lia (very tall gorgeous dark skinned German, silicone boobs and very professional, great service) , Leura (blonde German in her mid twenties, boobs done and an amazing smile) , Misha (a few months new blonde Romanian. 20-21 years maximum, one of the most gorgeous girls both face and body, around 5'7" tall, natural boobs). Ivi / Ivy from Hamburg is adorable too, she is thin, dark hair and has sweet little natural breasts. Sylvia / Silvia, medium height, thin with natural breasts and black hair has a very beautiful face and she is very classy, walking like a ballerina. Of course beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. However, those are all my type, even though they are all quite different. I have been with them all and I will definitely repeat with some of them. However, Ivi and Silvia are not great performers to me and Leura is a fake moaner which I really don't like. Besides all that I will still love to just look at them when I sit on one of the sofas between sessions.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Member #4347]

Hi there!

Does anyone know where Annika is?She doesn't work at Artemis any more and its quite unlikely she will return.

She was for sure both a very attractive woman and a great performer and I hope she is well.

[Francis Che]

Dear all,

I am a newbie in this forum. Actually, I just wonder that is it safe for Asian people to go to the club. Are there many Asian customer in Artemis. I am going to Berlin from middle of May. Is there any body want to join?

Thanks all.Thich,

Same plan as you.

[TuffeUffe69]

Arrived at 6 pm after a quick check in at a hotel close by. Tool a large beer in a bar because I knew that I would not drink much at Artemis. Actually I walked to Artemis, it was only 1 km from where I stayed, but back home I took a taxi for 5 EUR.

Entered the building and since I was there for the 2nd time and explained that this was 2 years ago she explained the rules. I could hardly follow what she said because the words came ou of her mouth quickly as a machine gun. Anyhow I knew pretty much to find my way, and I should meet up with Kimino inside to get some additional information. Took a shower and made a tour around the area. Had a look at the new outside area which was nice, will probably be popular this summer. Sat down with an orange juice on the upper level looking down at the bar. I started to look for Kiminio but the girls distracted my focus. Finally I found Kimino and his friend Rocketboy and. That I forgot the alias for, sorry. Really nice talking to you guys and fun to exchange experiences.

Since I am to slim girls my eyes landed on Cecili; 165 cm. 50 kg scilicon breast and very beautiful. Asked Kimino if she was OK and he said that she was good. And she was. Maybe a bit professional, but nice taling to, so I had a good vanilla session of 30 min.

After a nice chat with rocketboy during dinner, talking about cars, skiing, jobs, Red Light and Amsterdams retirement as RLD-sexcenter, they are closing 10 windows a year so when I'm 55 it will be 1 left. LOL.

Went to the gym and excerised and went back. Saw a new girls, blonde Dea 160 cm. 50 kg stunner from Romania with a english "spanish" accent. Very beautiful face, eyes and boobs. Her BBBJ was super and she looked straight into my eyes whilst sucking.

The some DATY and over o mish. She said I was to big for her and I felt that she was tighter than average, but that was good. After her riding me she said that she couldn't do it any mer because of my size. She promised CIM so she started BBBJ again. When I came she suddenly moved so everything landed on her breast. Thats cheating. She said that she never did CIM before and thats way she got hesitant. Anyhow I paid what she claimed to avoid discssions, I'm tired of arguing. In one way it was a good session. Its not every day you get BBBJ and fucks a gorgeous girl like DEA.

I ended my sessions with Silvia from Romania. An average performance of 30 min with CIM. She is tall and slim 170 cm and 50 kg, nice eyes and black hair.

The line up this day was not so good but Kimino that has the same taste as me said that the Bulgarian team was missing, so that was probably a good explanation.

Summary. I good stay and 3 pretty good sessions.

Tuffeuffe69

[Rocketboy0]

TU nice report and I assume this means you survived the drive. Next time you have this size problem let us know and we will lend you one of the anal penises that are now all the rage. RB

[Katinka]

Biguns are still the rage in porn, though.

[Aceh725]

Hi Kimino,

Sorry for my tedious question (I know I'm boring guy.) but. Did you see Lulu last time you was in the club?

Thanks in advance.

[Kimino]

Hi Kimino,

Sorry for my tedious question (I know I'm boring guy.) but. Did you see Lulu last time you was in the club?

Thanks in advance.Ahaha, figures. Yes she was there.

Cheers.

Kimino

[TuffeUffe69]

Haha. Yes that would be nice, but I think I keep my old friend, the girls "of 160 cm 45 kg's" in Copenhagen likes him too much.

Tuffeuffe

[Thich Gai]

Thich,

Same plan as you.Hi Francis, I am happy to go with you if we have same schedule. How can I contact you?

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[Katinka]

I had fun playing with Analyss Friday evening. Analyss has mousy brown hair a little bit more than shoulder length. She wears a little frilly thing around her waist that she pulls down to cover her pussy (it is part of the schtick). Nice "B" breasts and a nice ass. Sometimes she wraps up in a towel-again part of the schtick. Analyss speaks great English and give a good GFE.

But the whole time, Analyss insisted that it was her fifth day at Artemis and in the profession. I think the frilly thing and towel are to make her look "shy." But her performance belied her claim. And like I said, she spoke great English. Well she did until the end of the session when I asked,"so if you have only been doing this for five days, who taught you what to do?" Suddenly she just didn't understand.

To give you a feel for the quality, I had been waiting to find Fatima for old time's sake. Fatima was my first ever GFE. I finally gave up and went with Analyss. After or session, there was Fatima sitting in her usual spot at the end of the bar. I regretted missing Fatima, but not from the point of performance

[Frozty]

I arrived at Artemis at lunchtime. The place was deserted, even for a Monday. I sat at the upstairs bar for a while wondering if I'd done the wrong thing coming today. In fact the lineup improved dramatically over the course of the afternoon, so the menu was acceptable in the end.

My first visit to the rooms was a mistake. I was approached by Lara, we talked for a while and the chemistry seemed good. So we went upstairs. What followed was a very mechanical session and as things progressed I had a vague feeling that I had been with her before. The way that she leapt off of me at the end fully sparked my memory. She clearly didn't remember me either as she had asked me straight up if it was my first visit. My recollections were confirmed when I got back to my hotel and checked my old posts and smiled at the fact that my prior experience had been identical. Apart from that I had taken her name as Lana from Hamburg, rather than Lara from Hamburg. I had noted that I wouldn't be repeating.

After a wash-up, I wandered downstairs to the wellness area to relax for a while. I was greeted by Nina standing on the pole dance platform. She gave me a huge smile, lots of kisses, and we agreed to meet later, once I had recovered.

After an hour of sleep, I felt suitably refreshed and went to find Nina. She was sat at the upstairs bar and we chatted for a while before heading upstairs. I took her for two hours and was rewarded with a fabulous time.

We relaxed with a drink after the session and I told her of my ongoing problems in terms of variations in quality of service. She then told me about "Berlin Service" and explained that it was more usual in Berlin for girls to be very mechanical. No kissing, DATY, etc. A problem with the club having many tourists rather than regulars. I'm sure this is partly my fault as I don't like to discuss all my requirements ahead of a session. I prefer to rely on instinct, and clearly it is not yet properly tuned in. I know that this is not the right approach, but there you go.

Is this Berlin Service thing true? Nina explained that the smaller clubs, in NRW for example, are more accustomed GFE type service. I would be interested in people's views on this. Nina also said that her approach to a session also depended on the man. This made sense to me as I always assumed that my respectful approach would result in the best service. Not always the case.

Anyway, Nina recommended a couple of girls that she thought would suit me, so I will try them out tomorrow if I can find them. Ironically one is Mila, who I have been attracted to in the past, but have avoided due to my weird propensity to not get on with Blondes.

I had a bit of dinner, which was better than usual, hung out for a while and then headed for my hotel. In the locker room I had a chat was a wide-eyed US gentleman who was flabbergasted that such places existed. I've only been five or six times, but already I am critical of service levels. I still spent a very satisfactory day watching naked girls, and having sex with two of them.

I will return tomorrow fully aware of what a bloody marvellous place Artemis is.

[Katinka]

Averil is a tall black haired girl. She has "B-" breasts. She has the right sized ass, but it could be slightly more bulbous. Averil's most noticeable features are her skin and her voice. She has very pale white skin. My personal nickname for her was "Whitie." But if that isn't an adequate enough description, she wears a bright red bow tie. Oh the voice-she talks very loud. She was sitting at the bar, and I was sitting on one of the sofas in the raised area. I could not just hear her, I could actually understand the words she spoke. Her voice was that loud.

She claims that she has been at Artemis for 16 months and that she has a very good regular clientele. I believe her. Her service is very good. Probably a little professional for true GFE fans, but every thing was on the menu, including French kissing. I did something with Averil that I have never done before. Straight BJ to CIM finish. No fucking at all. She was just doing it perfectly, and was ringing all of my chimes.

If you see her and find her your type, you have to pounce. She understands that time is money and doesn't sit around. She works the room and she is successful at hooking mongers. Oh, she speaks excellent English and is clearly quite intelligent, which always appeals to me.

[Frozty]

Averil is a tall black haired girl. She has "B-" breasts. She has the right sized ass, but it could be slightly more bulbous. Averil's most noticeable features are her skin and her voice. She has very pale white skin. My personal nickname for her was "Whitie." But if that isn't an adequate enough description, she wears a bright red bow tie. Oh the voice-she talks very loud. She was sitting at the bar, and I was sitting on one of the sofas in the raised area. I could not just hear her, I could actually understand the words she spoke. Her voice was that loud.

She claims that she has been at Artemis for 16 months and that she has a very good regular clientele. I believe her. Her service is very good. Probably a little professional for true GFE fans, but every thing was on the menu, including French kissing. I did something with Averil that I have never done before. Straight BJ to CIM finish. No fucking at all. She was just doing it perfectly, and was ringing all of my chimes.

If you see her and find her your type, you have to pounce. She understands that time is money and doesn't sit around. She works the room and she is successful at hooking mongers. Oh, she speaks excellent English and is clearly quite intelligent, which always appeals to me.I saw her around. The red bow tie certainly accentuates her China skin. I was very tempted, but only saw her at the wrong time. Thanks for the recommendation though, I might try out tomorrow if she's around.

[Rocketboy0]

I told her of my ongoing problems in terms of variations in quality of service. She then told me about "Berlin Service" and explained that it was more usual in Berlin for girls to be very mechanical. No kissing, DATY, etc. A problem with the club having many tourists rather than regulars. I'm sure this is partly my fault as I don't like to discuss all my requirements ahead of a session. I prefer to rely on instinct, and clearly it is not yet properly tuned in. I know that this is not the right approach, but there you go.

Is this Berlin Service thing true? Nina explained that the smaller clubs, in NRW for example, are more accustomed GFE type service. I would be interested in people's views on this. Nina also said that her approach to a session also depended on the man. This made sense to me as I always assumed that my respectful approach would result in the best service. Not always the case.Well we have all been here before (as in the usual, RTTF)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1485244&highlight=mass#post1485244

Don't agree at all on this "Berlin Service" concept. NRW stories may or may not be true, but IMHO (and experience) it is the same everywhere. And my es-steamed colleague Prof Dr Kimino will surely back me up, and we are quite different types both as hombres and in our tastes, there are many great girls who give great service in Artemis, with plenty of kissing and licking. Certainly more than any daily supply of seminal fluids could possibly handle. And RB is picky. It is just the chemistry between the girl and you, highly subjective.

Frozty, if you want to increase the odds, in a charming way, just before you decide whether to head up to a room, just bloody ask if a girl will be comfortable doing whatever. Instinct may be romantic, but it is often wrong in the FKK scene.

[Frozty]

Frozty, if you want to increase the odds, in a charming way, just before you decide whether to head up to a room, just bloody ask if a girl will be comfortable doing whatever. Instinct may be romantic, but it is often wrong in the FKK scene.Thanks for the link and the advice; both ring true.

I'll get there in the end and in the meantime will have fun with my practice!

[Kimino]

there are many great girls who give great service in Artemis. It is just the chemistry between the girl and you, highly subjective.Yep, can only confirm.

The range goes from girls blowing you for 1 minute and telling bs like "In artemis it's like this, suck and fuck. What's wrong?", very rare, to gems that will give you incredible service for 40 mins and then only charge you 30 because "no problem.".

It's a matter of luck, experience, chemistry with the girl and YMMV. But in general I think the average is great.

A part from this, Nina gave you a great suggestion. Mila rocks!

Cheers.

Kimino

[JohnBourne]

I was just wondering. Do the average girls in Artemis enjoy DATY? Do they consider it as a way of pleasure for one self, or an extra service to satisfy the man's wish? Or perhaps both? What is the reason some girls chose not to do DATY? Beside mutual attraction.

Same goes about pulling the girl. I noticed some don't mind it, others don't allow it. Is it because of the nails? Possible infection?

[Rocketboy0]

I was just wondering. Do the average girls in Artemis enjoy DATY? Do they consider it as a way of pleasure for one self, or an extra service to satisfy the man's wish? Or perhaps both? What is the reason some girls chose not to do DATY? Beside mutual attraction.All the above, chemistry, mood, fatigue, astrological alignment etc. Plus some girls (amazingly enough) just don't like up to 20 different mouths a day munching their muschiis, with all the potential bio-hazards. Of course, men being the wise creatures that they are, keep the thought from even entering their minds, or think,"well I would not mind having my little love knob gobbed by 20 girls a day". Risks are different (even on anal penises).


Same goes about pulling the girl. I noticed some don't mind it, others don't allow it. Is it because of the nails? Possible infection?Not sure what you mean here but I know I hate being pulled by my nails.
If you mean fingering, well, same rules above apply. Just always wash and as Marlon Brando once said, cut your fingernails.

[JohnBourne]

All the above, chemistry, mood, fatigue, astrological alignment etc. Plus some girls (amazingly enough) just don't like up to 20 different mouths a day munching their muschiis, with all the potential bio-hazards. Of course, men being the wise creatures that they are, keep the thought from even entering their minds, or think,"well I would not mind having my little love knob gobbed by 20 girls a day". Risks are different (even on anal penises).

Not sure what you mean here but I know I hate being pulled by my nails.

If you mean fingering, well, same rules above apply. Just always wash and as Marlon Brando once said, cut your fingernails.Hehe, thanks for the explanation. Yes I agree about the men comparison. I don't think any sensible man would ever avoid a BJ ever.

[Sir Nice]

Been at Artemis twelve times the last four years. Been reading this forum the last times and found it very useful, so I thought I'the give something back to the forum. Came home a few days ago from visit number thirteen. Was there a Saturday evening.

Session number 1. Irina, Russia. There are many skinny girls at Artemis. 20 25 years old. Thought Irina had what I often miss at Artemis. I want someone with a woman's body, not a little girl's. Irina, who wouldn't say her age though I asked her, I believe is 30 35 years old. Long, blond hair, beautiful body and face. Rushed through the sex which was very mechanical. Will not repeat.

Session number 2: Avril, Romania. Have read so much about this girl here. As mentioned before, she looks a little like Mila Kunis, though not nearly as sexy as her, and wore a red bow tie. Was happy to find her there the night I was there, but what a disappointment! Was at first very sweet and charming. But in the room she tried to sell me extra services like cum on face, cum in mouth etc. I told her, very politely, that all I was interested in was vanilla sex for 60 euros. She asked me again and I gave the same reply. This seemed to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off. The sweet girl I met just a few minutes ago was gone. She rushed through the sex, which was very mechanical. Afterwords she told me something like 'you get what you pay for. If you pay more you get better sex, better blowjob' etc. A huge disappointment. Will definitely not repeat.

Session number 3. Antonia, Poland. What a girl! 26 years old. Great breasts. Great ass. Long brown hair. A butterfly tattoo on her back. Piercing through her bellybutton. A girl-next-door look. Said she's been working there for four months. Really sweet. Highly recommended!

[Frozty]

Last minute work disruptions seriously limited my available time today, but I decided to show up anyway. As I only had time for a single session, I decided to play it safe and take Fatima to the room. I knew exactly what I would get, so no need for a pre-agreed service level agreement.

In fact, my time with Fatima was even better than usual. She and I can take a little time to click each time we meet and I had noticed that in a half hour session we did not always get time to properly warm up. However, I persevered (how gallant) since she is physically so perfectly my type. My visit with her back in March benefited from being an hour, and today was even better with 90 minutes.

The downside was that I didn't get to trial Avril (she was busy anyway) or Mila (didn't see her today) , but that's something to look forward to next month. I'll try and add a few more to the 'to do list' from reading these pages.

My other feeling from this trip is that day trips seem to work better for me. Nobody seems to miss me for a day, but if I take two days out, day 2 invariably seems to get messed around.

I have decided that this is part of my problem with pre-room negotiations. I spent far too much time in a previous life negotiating SLA's for some outsource arrangement or another. Doing it for sex just kills my mood. Maybe I'd take it too far and insist on a guaranteed 98% uptime! I think I'd rather take my chances, live with the consequences, try and improve my memory (!) and, of course, RTFF.

[Member #4469]

Arrived at Artemis around 16. 00 on this Sunday, as soon as I arrived the very friendly Nina approached me but I wanted to relax for a few minutes first and meet up later but this never happened, disappointment! At this hour there were few options available so decided to relax in the downstairs area but fell asleep for an hour. To be honest the lineup wasn't that great this Sunday so when I watched one of few girls that I found attractive Timja (Ukr)? Long blond hair, slim body, small tits, pretty face 22-27 years go down the stairs the choice was easy. But this is a mistake when you haven't talked or even made eyecontact with a girl when you decide to take her to the room. And guess what it turned out that we had no chemistry at all and above that she was clearly sore in her vagina so no DATY and when I pounded her in doggy she claimed it hurts this was a turnoff for me so I abandoned the session 60 less in my pocket. Will not repeat.

After this letdown I quickly showered and began the hunt again! Found Shaz (Rum) 25-30 years long black hair, pretty large natural breast not a stunner but she's cute in her own way, and I know that she is friend with one of my favourite girls at Artemis, Iris so I knew she had a good attitude, no dfk but that's ok not all girls like it. Started with DATY and after just a few minutes she had a big orgasm after that she gave me possibly the best blowjob I've ever had, magnificent! Then she did make me in cow-girl position which I couldn't last more than 3-4 minutes she was tight! Will repeat!

Third session was with Corinna (Rum) Petite blond girl with small perky tits with a beautiful face, I had watched her sitting in the main-area upstairs for most of the day and she looked to be a little uptight but I decided to talk to her when she finally came down to the kino downstairs and she seemed to a real peach and boy was I right, treat her right and you will be in for a real rollercoaster! I made her come two times in DATY then she sucked & fucked my brains out! I had to change position four times not to come to early! She will only stay at Artemis for two weeks this time so I would recommend you all to try her out before she leaves! If I have the chance I will definitely repeat her!

Final session was with Samantha (Bul) she has new tits! We have always a very good time, totally GFE! Will repeat!

After the disappointing first session everything went really well and I could go home really satisfied!

[Kimino]

I have decided that this is part of my problem with pre-room negotiations. I spent far too much time in a previous life negotiating SLA's for some outsource arrangement or another. Doing it for sex just kills my mood. Maybe I'd take it too far and insist on a guaranteed 98% uptime! I think I'd rather take my chances, live with the consequences, try and improve my memory (!) and, of course, RTFF.Totally agree. Pre-room negotiations makes me feel like I'm buying a car or something and I'm also sure it slightly modifies the mood of the girl, at least some girls.

But, yeah, we are alone in this. LOL.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

Totally agree. Pre-room negotiations makes me feel like I'm buying a car or something and I'm also sure it slightly modifies the mood of the girl, at least some girls.Kimino.Well I never asked a car if it kissed or enjoyed DATY (though I could imagine doing so with a Lamborgini-or certain Porsches).

Look everybody has to find their way, and asking a girl if she will do this or that is certainly not the way one goes about things on a date or at a bar. If that illusion is important, or you like the tension of not knowing, fine. RB is under no such illusions and in an FKK most the rules are different-and happily so. Of course the few hard core sharks and upsellers won't be thrilled about being asked ahead of time what will happen, which is a very good thing. But I can tell you that many girls are quite grateful to know everyone is on the same page so there is nothing awkward (or worse) in the room and all expectations are clear. IMHO it actually makes the zimmering a lot more relaxed, or even more with the flow. And it at least gives a monger the option to decide whether what will or will not happen is worth it, on several levels, not just money. If that clarity spoils the mood, so be it. I know that when I have asked eg if a girl will kiss and she says "of course" and I immediately drag her off we have a good laugh about it.

It also depends a bit on what you want. If certain things are deal breakers (like not kissing is for RB) it makes sense to ask. If you don't care, and just want some one because your body is on fire, then optifick away. If money is no object, or you have no time pressures, those are other aspects.

But you can see just from some recent reports how flirtatious, vampy girls can change in the room. While that can still happen no matter what anyone says (chemistry just isn't right), if you check and ask will x,y,z be ok, watching the reaction and body language will tell you alot about whether to proceed. RB's instincts, he is ashamed to admit, have not been nearly as good at times as he imagined, being blinded by beauty. Hence the reality check.

Das point is- how you ask these questions makes a huge difference. I do it after a little or a lot of small talk (and not like "Hi, what's your name, and can I stick my tongue down your throat?" And I try do it in a charming, light, respectful way saying I just want everyone to be comfortable with what might happen, it does not have to be like going down a supermarket list or a mood killer. It can be just the opposite. Whenever I have had a bad session, it was precisely because I did not ask a few simple questions. No doubt some psychological and cultural factors are involved but on balance, with a new candidate, and especially if you are new to the game, asking about boundaries solves a lot of problems.

[Kimino]

It also depends a bit on what you want. Yep, basically that's the point.

If you have "special requests" and / or if kissing is important and / or if you want to be sure that basic extras are offered (ie. CIM and Anal) and if the absence of these might spoil your session, then for sure you better ask, possibly how RB is saying.

In my case, kissing is not important, I don't have "weird" requests and regarding the "normal" extras I will ask if they are available (and 90%) of the times they are, in the room, when and If I want them.

In my case, but it's very personal, I actually like to drag the girl to the room knowing absolutely nothing about her. At the max, if something flips in me I ask if she has a laundry list of "no nos" before going up. As somebody suggested once. LOL.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Member #4469]

Haha "laundry list of no nos" I totally agree with you guys it's a moodkiller to negotiate and I almost never ask what service she's providing and maybe more important what she's not! But I'll have to say that you should always have a little chat before taking anyone to the room feeling them out not physical then! Of course you could still have a bad session it happensbut by talking to them first you get a vibe if theres any kind of chemistry going on and I think you should follow you're gut feeling.

Happy Hunting!

[Buck Rogers]

Totally agree. Pre-room negotiations makes me feel like I'm buying a car or something and I'm also sure it slightly modifies the mood of the girl, at least some girls.

But, yeah, we are alone in this. LOL.

Cheers.

Kimino.Count me in as well. I used to ask years ago but I don't do it anymore. I just go with my sensation and impression. Then there is the man that just grabs or points to the girl and off to the zimmer in 5 seconds and the man that has a very insightful chat with a girl for 30 secs /1 minute on very deep topics (sex excluded).

I had some bad sessions in the past even though I asked and very good not asking now.

I guess to everyone his own, the important thing is to have fuuuuuun.

Cheers.

[Frozty]

It also depends a bit on what you want. If certain things are deal breakers (like not kissing is for RB) it makes sense to ask. Kissing is the main thing for me also. I prefer DATY with longer sessions only. So probably not a first time session. Everything else I am after is included anyway (or something is seriously awry!

I guess it should be easy enough to find out on the couch whether kissing is on the menu, so starting there rather than at the bar will probably help. Thinking about it, most of my poorer pickups have been at the bar. Now I'm just over-thinking.

[Pharisaer]

Session number 3. Antonia, Poland. What a girl! 26 years old. Great breasts. Great ass. Long brown hair. A butterfly tattoo on her back. Piercing through her bellybutton. A girl-next-door look. Said she's been working there for four months. Really sweet. Highly recommended!Maybe you mixed up something. No Polish named Antonia fitting your description at Western Cross, I fear. Perhaps you remember her right name? Any idea?

[Krazydude]

I made my way to Artemis on 14/05, knowing fully well that it would be Dessous-Tag that day. Reached by 6:30 pm. Paid €80 and asked about Fatima and Nina at the reception. Was told both were working, but could not be located. I was told Fatima has long her that extend till her waist (which wasn't quite helpful). Long story short, couldn't track either of them during the evening, although I did overhear a girl telling a guy at the upstairs bar that Fatima was in and with a client.

Being a Wednesday, it was quite relaxed till 8 pm and I enjoyed the outdoor pool and the new sauna area. The new rooms near the pool outside seem to be inspired by Arabian tales I reckon. I was hoping to end a pattern that I seem to have acquired at FKK's that as the day or night goes on, my choices start becoming worse. Well I couldn't break the pattern on Wednesday.

I had 3 sessions (in hind-sight and even after the second session, my brain was telling me leave, but another voice which came from something between my legs told me to go ahead with another session).

A) Antonella from Poland. Light brown hair, about 5'4. Excellent session with her. Met her in the upstairs bar. Very attractive looking girl with natural boobs. Excellent BJ to start with in the kino and then we moved to the zimmer. Multiple positions. Allowed light fingering and good DFK both outside and inside the zimmer. Would repeat (actually I had a thought about repeating her the same night for session 3, which now in hindsight would have been a much better idea than what I went ahead with).

B) Loren from Romania. Dark hair, about 5'5. She is friends with Antonella. Things started off well and she seemed engaged during our conversation at the bar, so I took her to the kino. Very light FK and then came out a small spray sanitizer bottle which she sprayed on my penis. That was the first warning sign, but there was no turning back then. Short and very basic BJ and wanted to go to the zimmer (excuse given that she does not like girls watching her). She also tells me that she will not allow fingering in the kino as other girls will see her and then she would be reprimanded (what the heck). As she gave me the BJ in the kino, her friend comes over and stands next to us near the couch and asks her something in Romanian (She asks me if you want to try a threesome. I decline, wasn't interested and certainly not with her and her friend after the spray incident. She then wanted to go to the zimmer and I finally agreed. In the zimmer, things were the same, not much interest shown, slight up-sell on CIM & Anal. I finished, paid her €60 and thought about calling it in right then.

C) Caroline from Poland. Blond hair, about 5'5. Saw her early in the evening and she looked nice, but then disappeared, again saw her as she was coming down after a session with a client. She looked like someone I knew a while back who I wanted to hook up with, but never happened, so as she was passing, stopped her. She told me she needed some rest before she could continue. No worries, we can go get a drink, we do and I find out she is quite talkative (no problems there). I was with her for more than 1 hour (session was 30 minutes but 30 minutes was just chit-chat). Did not want to go to the kino and I should have left her right then, but last punt and my brain has already gone off to sleep. Straight to the zimmer, where there is more chit-chat and finally the session starts, almost no FK, and she very cleverly slipped on a condom, so it became a CBJ. I asked why and she says she only gives CBJ. I said well all other girls don't and she says she isn't like them and starts talking about health and possible diseases. Mood killed and at this point I am just not interested in taking this to the Thekefrau. Up-sell to try Anal, CIM. She even asked if she wanted me to put her finger up my arse as many guys like that (for a price of €50, I politely declined). Okay BJ, we try one or two positions but I cut the session short and we head out. She is still yapping about something about Poland and I just nod along till I pay her €60.

Things that I noticed this time around in Artemis that I didn't in earlier visits -.

A) Girls seem to be more hesitant towards fingering and even light flicking.

B) Less DFK.

C) Less up-sell.

D) With the outside extension, loads of areas to relax between sessions (if the weather is nice).

[Pharisaer]

Caroline from Poland. ... she very cleverly slipped on a condom, so it became a CBJ. I asked why and she says she only gives CBJ.Caroline, Poland: YMMV, obviously. Search thread, you'll find similar reports like yours and some enthusiastic reports as well. What happened to you is the way she works if she dislikes a client, but likes clients money. Unfortunately she dislikes me, too.

[Frozty]

Long story short, couldn't track either of them during the eveningI usually arrive at lunchtime. The downside is a smaller selection of girls, but the upside is that you can always find time with Fatima and Nina (assuming that they are working). Fatima usually arrives at 1 pm, and Nina by about 3 pm. I don't think that either of them like to work very late.

[Kimino]

Caroline, Poland: YMMV, obviously. Yep, you are really right. Very strange.

Last time I really enjoyed her company, to the point I was disappointed in the last two visits when she wasn't there. Maybe it also depends on the day, the mood. God knows. Still, it's a girl I would recommend to a friend.

Which translates in very low reliability of girl recomandations, in general.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Sir Nice]

Maybe you mixed up something. No Polish named Antonia fitting your description at Western Cross, I fear. Perhaps you remember her right name? Any idea?I'm pretty sure she told me her name was Antonia, but I may be wrong. "Krazydude" , a few reports later, tells about a Polish named Antonella. Maybe that's the same girl.

[PussyLiccker]

How much is taxi to Art from the airport? Anyway, I'll be there today.

[Banana Boi]

How much is taxi to Art from the airport?http://www.visitberlin.de/en/article/taxis-in-berlin

Calculator http://www.taxi-in-berlin.de/taxitarif/taxi-tarifrechner/.

[Antex]

How much is taxi to Art from the airport? Anyway, I'll be there today.Depends of which airport.

If its from Tegel I would guess about 17 Euro.

Antex

[Slither]

I was in Artemis some week ago. One girl telled me, and it seems correct, that Janita, in Artemis Eva, finished in this work. Maybe this is interesting and sad for some people.

[Pharisaer]

I'm pretty sure she told me her name was Antonia, but I may be wrong. "Krazydude" , a few reports later, tells about a Polish named Antonella. Maybe that's the same girl.Thanks. Maybe Antonella. By the way, Antonia is a pale-skinned Romanian working at Western Cross for years.

[Kimino]

I was in Artemis some week ago. One girl telled me, and it seems correct, that Janita, in Artemis Eva, finished in this work. Maybe this is interesting and sad for some people.I'm happy for her. Thanks for the info.

Kimino.

[Member #4581]

Is there public sex in Artemis or is it not done? Like in kino or other areas? Is it just upto the girl? How many girls do it, either BJ or fucking in public areas?

[PussyLiccker]

Major sausage fest last night. No memorable sessions. My impressions is predominantly Rom / Mod / Bul girls. I was hoping for some hot Germans. Didn't see any. A frequenter told me there are a group of German girls, but no show.

I think 20% Germans is an overstatement. I would say the worst line-up compared to my previous visits. I expected more from the only club in Berlin. If I could do this again, I would have just stayed in Hessen or NRW. Could be a bad day, but it's hard to imagine significantly better line-up based what I saw.

[Antex]

Is there public sex in Artemis or is it not done? Like in kino or other areas? Is it just upto the girl? How many girls do it, either BJ or fucking in public areas?In the kino (both upstairs and downstairs), yes to public sex. But otherwise not.

Except for the small tents up by the mainbar. Not really public when you are supposed to close the curtains but not everyone does, then it becomes public.

Most of the girl do it but not everyone.

Antex

[Rocketboy0]

Major sausage fest last night. If I could do this again, I would have just stayed in Hessen or NRW. Could be a bad day, but it's hard to imagine significantly better line-upI don't know what was up last night. Although nothing like a Messe, it was weirdly crowded, with half of Italia there, and not watching any futbol. The wait for rooms wasn't super bad (though at times the cleaning crew ran out of sheets, RB was told). What was annoying was just moving around the locker room and the main door into the bar where for some reason people liked to talk and block access space. It did create a kind of stressed buzz-absolutely not a normal Saturday and no one really could explain why. Even bumped into Signore B Rogers who was as surprised at his being there as well, off schedule. (He promises to tell Kimino that all of Team BU was ready and waiting, not having to deal with dessous).

There is a difference between Friday's and Saturday's staffing, and a number of girls don't do both nights. There was definitely more of Team DE on Friday so just bad luck. But to say the line up was the worst, well of course, you can have your tastes and opinion, and if all driven by the need for German girls, then the 10-15 on last night might not have been enough. Picky RB thought it was pretty ok and he is usually underwhelmed by the talent in NRW, so to each his own. But all things being equal, you can argue that Thursdays and Friday nights can be slightly better just because there are less weekend warriors on the monger side, chasing more muschis. Some girls who have filled the coffers, just want the weekend off, especially if they don't live in Artemis, so they might skip Saturday. In any case, there are still lots more choices on a Saturday, compared to Sun-Wed. Food was good, swimming in the pool at least in the afternoon quite pleasant so all in all...

It could be that in NRW for various reasons, the market for small apartment bordellos is different, so more local girls might congregate in clubs. In Berlin, the small bordello scene is pretty booming and as RB has said many times, there are both more local German girls there, and IMHO the quality overall is better. Different business model, different rules, different prices, different choices. Fick Fabrik Artemis is what it is and nevertheless, there are more than enough hotties to keep the boyze busy. But if you are obsessed with Aryan artifacts and Teutonic talents, a different night and venue might be the way forward.

[Rocketboy0]

Is there public sex in Artemis or is it not done? Like in kino or other areas? Is it just up to the girl? How many girls do it, either BJ or fucking in public areas?Yes. Many though not all will, esp in the kinos. I have heard stories of people doing it in the downstairs pool, and outside when there were large round sofas (now gone). I once saw a guy getting a blowjob right on the bottom stairway so all trying to get to the indoor saunas, massage, pool or lower kino had to climb over the knob gobbing, slurping scene. It does not get more erotic than that, does it?

[Krazydude]

Is there public sex in Artemis or is it not done? Like in kino or other areas? Is it just upto the girl? How many girls do it, either BJ or fucking in public areas?2 out of the 3 sessions I had last week started off in the Kino with BJ and light fingering. Thereafter we moved to the zimmer to finish the session. This seemed to be quite common as I saw quite a few girls giving BJ's to guys in the kino, but didn't see guys having sex with girls in the kino (I guess the girls / guys want that to happen in the privacy of the zimmer).

You need to confirm with the girl if she will go to the kino with you beforehand as some do not like it (Caroline springs to mind here). Most girls are okay with it, but I guess some aren't as they do not like it or they know that they are on show and if they do not perform well, then the people observing them might drop them off their 'to-do' list.

I also saw a girl giving a guy a tug and a rub in the outdoor jacuzzi. At Sharks you can have sex in the jacuzzi, so deriving from that logic and the fact that I did not see a 'No sex in the jacuzzi' sign-board anywhere would mean you could have sex in the jacuzzi out in the open (if the weather is nice and if the girl agrees).

Right opposite the main bar area are small circular sofa's with what resemble like Bedouin tents on top. You can pull the curtains and enjoy sex there as I saw few guys doing this. You are in a public (and very busy area) and a curtain is what separates you and the vast majority of crowd at Artemis, so I'd say public and private at the same time. Considering the size of the circular sofa's, I would not say it would be quite comfortable to have sex there, but hey if and the girl can manage it, then no one is going to stop you.

[SuppenHuhn]

I think 20% Germans is an overstatement.No about 20 % German Girls is abolute correct (in the middle of all days). The German group is the biggest group in Artemis. The other big group are the Romanian girls.

If you go to many other german clubs the line up has not so much variety than artemis.

[Capt Dan]

I don't know what was up last night. Although nothing like a Messe, it was weirdly crowded, with half of Italia there, and not watching any futbol. Trd.Perhaps the Italian crew are now heading to FKK Artemis as opposed to FKK Oase (Hessen) due to the latter clubs apparent major customer crisis caused by changes in club policies. FKK Oase was a big favourite with the Italian contingent but is currently receiving poor ratings (not only on this board) but also on the more significant German and other non-English speaking boards (particularly Italian). The Italian mongers will nevertheless want to go somewhere (and they do tend to fix on a particular club and then travel en masse), perhaps they have selected FKK Artemis? Not much difference flying to Berlin (as opposed to Frankfurt) from Italy. Its a long-shot and an interesting theory. Time will tell if this is correct but you never know, there might be some truth in this theory!

[Kimino]

Even bumped into Signore B Rogers who was as surprised at his being there as well, off schedule. (He promises to tell Kimino that all of Team BU was ready and waiting, not having to deal with dessous).I HATE YOU BOTH. LOL.

Kimino.

[Hot Island]

Major sausage fest last night. If I could do this again, I would have just stayed in Hessen or NRW. Could be a bad day, but it's hard to imagine significantly better line-up based what I saw.Totally agree. It was the worst Saturday ever yesterday. I got there at 1 in the afternoon and it was already noisy and crowded in the pool area, with twice as many dudes as girls. When I left after midnight the main bar was totally rammed with dudes like a bunch of forlorn wieners in a sardine tin, and hardly any women around, and more guys arriving all the time in the reception. This all made some of the women much more picky than normal, so a couple of them just totally ignored me when I went to talk to them or wouldn't go to a room. Saw some other girls refusing other customers as well, so not just me. Never seen this happen before.

Still I took my time and had some great sessions with the famous Nina (CZ), Sissy (BUL) and Janine (D / E). Nina said early on it would be a crazy day. Something to do with a big football cup match in town. So good to avoid big sport event days as well all as Messen I think.

[Pizda Hut]

Picky RB thought it was pretty ok and he is usually underwhelmed by the talent in NRW, so to each his own.

It could be that in NRW for various reasons, the market for small apartment bordellos is different, so more local girls might congregate in clubs. In Berlin, the small bordello scene is pretty booming and as RB has said many times, there are both more local German girls there, and IMHO the quality overall is better. Different business model, different rules, different prices, different choices. Fick Fabrik Artemis is what it is and nevertheless, there are more than enough hotties to keep the boyze busy. But if you are obsessed with Aryan artifacts and Teutonic talents, a different night and venue might be the way forward.If I understood the above correct, someone actually prefers Artemis and Berlin in general over NRW and Hessen. Personally I have much more business in the Berlin area than in any place in Germany, nevertheless every time I have the possibility to spend some free time in FKK-land I head away from Berlin. To the greater thesseldorf area with the big variety of medium sized clubs. Or to the greater Frankfurt area with the great 4 big clubs (or actually 3 since no sane monger visits Palace anymore). Nowadays I even appreciate Stuttgart with the Paradise-Sakura possibility more than Berlin.

Ok, I'm a club kind of guy, the bordello scene does not interest me one tiny bit, I want to slip into my slippers, get the bathrobe on and have everything within reach. Preferably during many, many hours. Maybe Berlin is heaven on earth for the bordello goers, I don't know. For me the game with the girls in the club, all the interaction and sales efforts are a big part of the fun. And therefore for a guy like me, in Berlin there is Artemis, and, well, Artemis, nothing else. If the big A doesn't do it for me that evening, then there is nothing else to do except go to bed.

Just to clarify, I have attended the zoo at A on all seasons, during the week, the weekend, holidays, messe, you name it, I have given Artemis many chances, but so far it has failed to impress me. The biggest advantage A has "on the paper" is that it has variety in form of girl-nationalities, meaning the Romanians are not as dominant there as in many other clubs. But this doesn't count for much if the girls aren't attractive.

When it comes to service, there are good girls at Artemis, but in general the concept that the girls would feel "pressed" to perform well in the room or risk being kicked out, simply doesn't exist. Meaning the percentage of so-so sessions is much bigger at A than in most clubs I have visited. This fact is rather peculiar since the reception-fear-factor clearly exists, especially for un-official take-out. The girls at Artemis have been the most difficult and have required the most oral acrobatics to get out on one-to-one meetings, compared to girls in NRW or Hessen.

In my opinion.

PH

[Frozty]

Nina said early on it would be a crazy day. Something to do with a big football cup match in town.The German cup final was played in Berlin yesterday. I will remember to avoid clashes with similar events in the future.

[Rocketboy0]

If I understood the above correct, someone actually prefers Artemis and Berlin in general over NRW and Hessen. The girls at Artemis have been the most difficult and have required the most oral acrobatics to get out on one-to-one meetings, compared to girls in NRW or Hessen. In my opinion. PHPH-this is all very subjective and somewhat beside the point-which was why there might have been a relative dearth of Deutscherinen on a particular day at the old Love Bahnhoff. I am the first to admit the taste bit is completely subjective, so will just leave it at that. I also confess my insanity, having always had a good time at the Palace in Frankfurt. Thank God for those meds.

On the take-out bit, you bet, the A management is super tough on this point, and they are very clear about it with the girls. I have heard stories of instant dismissals when those involved were busted. Of course, for one who likes the club scene so much, this should not be an issue.

[Katinka]

Had a session with Honey the German. I was hoping to see Fatima, and got tired of waiting. Honey wasn't for me. She has never heard of GFE. And isn't even mechanically good. She was so disappointing, that I could not even finish.

After my disappointment with Honey, Erina got a hold of me. She is blond with perfect see+ breasts and a gorgeous ass. But watching her ass walking up the stairs, I noticed that she is ever so slightly bowlegged. Erina had to earn an extra 50 euros finishing me for a CIM finish, but earn it, she did.

[Pizda Hut]

PH-this is all very subjective and somewhat beside the point-which was why there might have been a relative dearth of Deutscherinen on a particular day at the old Love Bahnhoff. I am the first to admit the taste bit is completely subjective, so will just leave it at that. I took great liberties with the quotes of your post. As everything, subjective, opinions.


I also confess my insanity, having always had a good time at the Palace in Frankfurt. Thank God for those meds. The Palace is The Palace, either love it or hate it. Haven't had any serious Palacian outbreaks lately, lucky enough. Every now and then just a little.


On the take-out bit, you bet, the A management is super tough on this point, and they are very clear about it with the girls. I have heard stories of instant dismissals when those involved were busted. I have understood this and heard the same stories too. A bit strange though, to enforce this policy so strong, take-out is anyway a marginal phenomenon, taking into account the rather few mongers that are willing to spend the big bucks for just one girl, for one night. And then on the other hand A management doesn't seem to care about sub-standard performance in the rooms by the girls. The reception at least doesn't seem to have any interest at all in the matter. Have witnessed a few complaints in the club that were met with a "so, what do you think I can do about it" at the reception. A reputation of being a sub-standard service place is potentially ten times more damaging for a club than take-out could ever be.


Of course, for one who likes the club scene so much, this should not be an issue.Of course not, as long as I get my robe and my slippers I'm happy. Although some take-out every now and then is rather stimulating.

PH

[Kimino]

If I understood the above correct, someone actually prefers Artemis and Berlin in general over NRW and Hessen. Obviously.

Kimino.

[Pistons]

Major sausage fest last night. No memorable sessions. My impressions is predominantly Rom / Mod / Bul girls. I was hoping for some hot Germans. Didn't see any. A frequenter told me there are a group of German girls, but no show.

I think 20% Germans is an overstatement. I would say the worst line-up compared to my previous visits. I expected more from the only club in Berlin. If I could do this again, I would have just stayed in Hessen or NRW. Could be a bad day, but it's hard to imagine significantly better line-up based what I saw.Interestingly, I was laso of the assumption that there were Moldovan girls at Artemis. In fact, they are not from Moldova, but from Moldavia which is the name of the area in Romania next to Moldova east of the mountainrange. Yes, it used to be the same country way back in history...

They are all from Western Moldavia as seen on the last map here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Partitions_of_Moldavia.jpg

But more importantly, has anyone seen Marketa as of late? In Artemis or in any other German club?

[ZimmerBaby]

Marketa has got a rich boyfriend and is out of the business.

[Kimino]

Marketa has got a rich boyfriend and is out of the business.Best wishes ZB! We will you miss both. It was a pleasure spending time with you. LOL.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Pistons]

Marketa has got a rich boyfriend and is out of the business.Interesting... You?

[Rocketboy0]

Best wishes ZB! We will you miss both. It was a pleasure spending time with you. LOL.Cheers.Kimino.Really? Well I asked her this morning during breakfast, and she has no idea what you're talking about.

(If I find a rich girlfriend, I could quit also..or at least it would not cost so much).

[Kimino]

Really? Well I asked her this morning during breakfast, and she has no idea what you're talking about.

(If I find a rich girlfriend, I could quit also..or at least it would not cost so much).A rich boyfriend would be ok for me too. LOL.

Kimino.

[ZimmerBaby]

Thanks! She's still adapting to the new environments and normal way of life. Sometimes during love making she's got these blackouts and starts charging 50 for CIM, poor girl. That's the price you pay for sucking on those filthy cocks from the working and middle class men. Miss you too Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

Thanks! She's still adapting to the new environments and normal way of life. Uh, um Zimby, forgetting to take those meds, again??

[Jmioffe]

She doesn't work at Artemis any more and its quite unlikely she will return.

She was for sure both a very attractive woman and a great performer and I hope she is well.Any idea where she went? I thought she was spectacular as well -- looks, attitude, performance, personality, the whole package.

I'm at Artemis next week, I could ask many of the German crew who knew her, but this being what it is they could lie or even say they never knew such a person.

I do hope she is well too and nothing nefarious (like crossed a mobster) or sad (like caught something permanent) happened. As long as that is the case, perhaps her disappearance is a good thing. This is not a business one can keep up forever.

But I would also be interested if she surfaced at another club, like some of my other favorites have done.

[Antex]

Any idea where she went? I thought she was spectacular as well -- looks, attitude, performance, personality, the whole package..Hi!

As from what I've heard she settled down back in the Czech Republic.

Don't know if its right or wrong but got the same answer from two different girls.

Conspiracy or not, hope she gets a long and healthy life!

Antex

[Member #4347]

I think a few things got messed up here.

My statement was a response to someone who asked about German Annika and I have nothing to add to my statement.

The recent discussion is about Czech Marketa who I liked, too.

[SuppenHuhn]

As from what I've heard she settled down back in the Czech Republic.Jimioffe asked for Annika and not Maketa. Annika is a german girl.

[MelodyKedy]

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[DaHenn]

I had a great visit at Artemis yesterday but forgot the name of the girl I met. She is from Hamburg, cute brunette with pretty big natural tits and brown eyes. Said she was 26 years old and working in Berlin for a week at the time and then going back to Hamburg.

Anyone know her name?

[AltimaTravels]

I am going to Artemis from Friday evening (30 May) to Sunday late PM.

Any idea if any of these girls will be about? I.e. Has anybody seen them lately?

Pinky.

Vegas.

Heidi.

Samantha.

Cheers!

[Nose Dick]

Gents, (I'm using this term rather loosely).

I have been an admirer of FKK clubs since I had the chance of visiting one in Vienna. Now whenever I'm in one of the German speaking cities, I try to spend some time iin one.

I went to Berlin for a business trip. Good boy that I am, I made my research at ISG and decided to go to Artemis. And this was a wise choice.

I was in a rtaher central location. So taxi fare costed me 20 Euros. Entry fee was another 80 Euros. I have nothing to add to the entry procedures as they have been thoroughly explained in other posts. With 100 Euros down, I was planning to make the most out of this night (I went there around 8 pm).

Unlike many people here, I can only do twice on a good day. So I had to be very careful with my choices. I sat down into the main bar and ordered coffee. I would say that the bartender was by far the sweetest person in the whole location. But she was not on the menu.

Around 8 pm, I would say there were maybe 20 girls or so. All body types (tall, thin, big, busty, etc) were available. Based on certain womens coming on to me, I had the feeling Romanians were the most crowded. BUt it weas too early for me to make a choice. So I made a point of visiting every nook of the place. The place was rather big, but I think it's even bigger in summer when they open outside spaces as well. There were one bif porno theater with 4 rows of seating, multiple bathrooms, one pool, 2 saunas, massage area, 2 bars.

Around 9 pm, I was in the zone after seeing so many attractive and NAKED girls. So I made an eye contact with a brunette (name escapes me) and she came to me. After sitting 60 seconds, we decided to go to a room. She told me she was half Romanian, half SPaniard. I don't know. She was drop dead gorgeous. In the room, there was nothing special going on, normal procedure took place. Just for the fun of it, I've asked about anal and she told me she doesn't do it. So in half an hour, with 60 Euros less on my locker, I had a big grin on my face.

Now, I needed to really wait for the second time. I have not been blessed with quick action engine so a good 1 hr+ is needed. SO I went to pool area, had a cup of coffee, tried the sauna, pool, and had a quick nap in one of the barcaloungers. After half an hour the thought that I was surrounded with naked ladies hit me and I've decided at least to watch them. So I went to main area to do some sightseeing. Now the crowd was around 50 stunning ladies (well mostly anyways).

I decided to stop by the porn area. I set my self in second row from back. Than a couple came and decided to use the seating in front of me to acquaint themselves. That my friends turned me on faster than anything else. Luckily a German lady came to my rescue. She stopped by and asked me whether I needed hand. I was happy to oblige. SO we did it right there. An even bigger grin now on my face.

Than having completely dried out (fluid wise and financially) I went back to my hotel. I really hoped to come back but didn't. Stupid me..

[Member #4347]

Nose Dick,

Thanks for the report, but are you sure you don't remember at least one of the girls names? Since you only had two girls it should be possible and it would make the report far more interesting.

What do you mean by "porn area" - the porn cinema? Also it would be interesting to know how the German girl looked like.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Shinai]

I was in the Artemis again on 21-22-and 24 may after April and again had many pleasures. Firstly the outside area brought another nice scene to hang on. I was with blonde german angel Nadia, Romanian tiny blonde Diana Romanian slim brunette Cindia all were recommended experiences. Tried my first treesome with the Romanian brunette sisters Sonya and Jelena and that entered the hall of fame for me as looking forward to have again sooner. However my the best times were again and again with the Bulgarian angel Sissi. I very much like and get on well with this lovely girl who makes the intervals of my Artemis visits shorter..

[Rocketboy0]

Nose Dick, Thanks for the report, but are you sure you don't remember at least one of the girls names? Diplomat+1.

Really, if you can't remember the girl (s)' name, it is pointless to report. You can always keep a dairy for yourself but this is public forum to inform and help guide others from your experiences.

[AltimaTravels]

Hi,

I have been there yesterday and I saw Samantha but neither Vegas nor Heidi. About Pinky I am not sure. I recommend calling the reception and just asking for the girl who is most important to you.Many thanks Diplomat. Did you see Bella by any chance?

I am going to Artemis this weekend anyway and will just have to take my chances.

[FrenchLover]

I went to Artemis on both Thursday and Friday last week (22-23 May). Thursday night was very busy. I only went with three girls. The best was a German girl who just started coming here. I forgot her name. She didn't show up on Friday. The next day I saw four. My absolutely best experience was with a tall, slender, model-looking girl from Hungary. We had hood chemistry. Probably due to the contrast with my previous session with a tall, pretty but mechanical girl from Moldova, I tipped her 40 euros. She said it was too much. I told her I really liked her. It might have been excessive. 20 might have been appropriate.

In any case, I left at 3:15 AM and made a fatal mistake of walking to the S Bahn station nearby. I came by S75 and that street "Am Westkreuz" looked normal. Besides, Charlottenburg, where Artemis is, is a safe neighborhood. Well, I nearly died because of that stupid decision. A man with a pistol accosted me after I turned right from the main street. He pepper sprayed me and hit me with the canister when I tried to pull away from him. I felt to the ground. During the struggle, a cab and a passenger car went by (from S Bahn). I called for help, to no avail. As I sat on the ground, I took out my wallet and handed it to him. He wanted to strike me again or do something more sinister, I sensed danger and ran away. He chased me a little bit. I managed to outrun him and went to the middle of the main road. Blood in my face, I cried for help. At least half a dozen cars went by before one stopped. Two German women came out of the car and called the police and the ambulance for me. I had five stitches on my forehead.

I don't whether my assailant had me marked. Many cabdrivers and maybe one or two girls at Artemis saw me walking in without a cab and walking out to the main road. The police said they had no robberies in that area prior to misfortune.

I blame myself for lowering my guard. Nevertheless it soured my taste for Berlin. I'm New York City. I have never encountered any threats throughout mu four years of living there. Could it be that some attackers specifically pick out tourists?

[Member #4581]

Whoa, what a report. Unbelievable. I thought Artemis would be a safe club to visit, did not know it was this dangerous. I was going to visit in a few weeks. Should I just drop my plans? I always take a cab, and people said German cab drivers are safe, this is not third world, etc, and now we are hearing of being pistol whipped and almost shot close to the club.

Very scary.

[Rocketboy0]

I thought Artemis would be a safe club to visit, did not know it was this dangerous. Very sorry to hear of this awful story but let's not get carried away. The incident description is a little off. Assume you mean the small road by the Müller Tire Store going towards the S Bahn Westkreuz station. Normally full of people, and often police or others.

In 9 years of doing this, first I ever hear of it. It is not dangerous. Any big city, any where in the deepest night, can be a problem. It was just wrong place wrong time.

[FrenchLover]

Whoa, what a report. Unbelievable. I thought Artemis would be a safe club to visit, did not know it was this dangerous. I was going to visit in a few weeks. Should I just drop my plans? I always take a cab, and people said German cab drivers are safe, this is not third world, etc, and now we are hearing of being pistol whipped and almost shot close to the club.

Very scary.No problem with Artemis nor the cabs. I was walking to the S Bahn station. I should've taken the cab instead, in hindsight.

[FrenchLover]

Very sorry to hear of this awful story but let's not get carried away. The incident description is a little off. Assume you mean the small road by the Mller Tire Store going towards the S Bahn Westkreuz station. Normally full of people, and often police or others.

In 9 years of doing this, first I ever hear of it. It is not dangerous. Any big city, any where in the deepest night, can be a problem. It was just wrong place wrong time.It indeed happened on that road by the tire store. When I went to Artemis, I also took the s bahn and walked the road. The area looked very peaceful and safe. I walked past the tire shop on my way to Artemis and was seen by two guys working there. I wonder if someone saw me walking to Artemis and decided to wait for me to come back at night.

It did seem to be an isolated incident. However it shattered my previous assumption that Berlin was safe and a lot safer than New York City.

[Member #4347]

Hi Frenchlover,

Really sorry you had such a shocking experience and thank you for reporting it. Wether you have been marked somehow by people who saw you earlier that evening I believe no one. At least no one here. Will be able to answer that. However you can be sure many if not most Artemis guests are tourists, business people etc. From different countries and if we take into account there are roughly a few hundred guests per day and at least some of them take the same walk as you did I really want to believe this was an isolated incident. I sincerely wish you never have such a bad experience ever again and of course I wish no one else will. Please keep us posted.

By the way I have been with a new German girl a few times now I find highly attractive. Her name is Xenia but as I said she is not to be confused with the former Xenia who had been at Arte for years now. The new Xenia is a German brunette probably in her mid twenties, roughly 5'5' in height, beautiful natural slim body and with a gorgeous angelic face. She had worked in another German club in North Rine Westphalia before and she is clearly a pro but I find her refreshing. The last two times I have seen her she was always sitting at the bar right hand side when you enter the main room. Right now she is not walking around a lot and she seems shy but she is of course not. She is highly educated and smart and I felt we connected from the very first moment. She gives a great BJ and I enjoyed licking her sweet tasty pussy which is something I rarely do at places like Artemis. Only light kissing and she sometimes tries using her hand to prevent things going to rough. However I am quite sure we will be able to overcome that. She has been there until Tuesday or Wednesday last week and I hope she will be back after 10 days. Definitely my type of girl.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Nille Copenhagen]

Whoa, what a report. Unbelievable. I thought Artemis would be a safe club to visit, did not know it was this dangerous. I was going to visit in a few weeks. Should I just drop my plans? I always take a cab, and people said German cab drivers are safe, this is not third world, etc, and now we are hearing of being pistol whipped and almost shot close to the club.

Very scary.Artemis is a very dangerous place full of naked women and sometimes if you are unlucky to run in the Russian Mob, shooting their way out as they didn't wanted to pay the girls, instead put a bullet in a security guy.

So shit happens, just don't be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sorry FrenchLover for your experience, you were very unlucky to be at the wrong place at the wrong time or maybe you gave the impression that you are full of money by tipping so much. You would never know would you?

I've been walking in the area many times very later in the night during Summer and Winter, I never felt unsafe.

[Trans Atlantic]

No problem with Artemis nor the cabs. I was walking to the S Bahn station. I should've taken the cab instead, in hindsight.


I would chalk it up to wrong place wrong time. The assailant probably saw an opportunity waiting for a single guy coming out from an establishment where customers can afford to potentially drop several hundred euros or more. I would be concern taking public transportation in the middle of the night even in NYC unless we're talking about the major subway interchanges (eg W4th/Union Square etc).

[FrenchLover]

Artemis is a very dangerous place full of naked women and sometimes if you are unlucky to run in the Russian Mob, shooting their way out as they didn't wanted to pay the girls, instead put a bullet in a security guy.

So shit happens, just don't be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sorry FrenchLover for your experience, you were very unlucky to be at the wrong place at the wrong time or maybe you gave the impression that you are full of money by tipping so much. You would never know would you?

I've been walking in the area many times very later in the night during Summer and Winter, I never felt unsafe.I did withdraw 200 euros at the ATM in the club because I decided to stay longer. I initially wanted to stop by for just a couple of hours before going out to the pubs to try my pickup game. But when I was about to leave the first time, it was already too late. So I took out some cash and stayed for another hour and a half and did a (so-so) session with a cute Romanian girl.

So someone might have seen me taking out cash at the ATM and informed his / her robber friend.

The girls at Artemis were very aggressive. I turned almost all of them, some multiple times. This might have caused resentment. Maybe some girl decided to call up her friend to whack me for being repeatedly turned down by me.

Also, my initial report had the dates off by one. The mugging occurred on Friday morning, 3:20 AM. I went to Artemis on Wednesday and Thursday nights. Artemis was very busy on Wednesday. But on Thursday there were more girls than guys.

[FrenchLover]

Hi Frenchlover,

Really sorry you had such a shocking experience and thank you for reporting it. Wether you have been marked somehow by people who saw you earlier that evening I believe no one. At least no one here. Will be able to answer that. However you can be sure many if not most Artemis guests are tourists, business people etc. From different countries and if we take into account there are roughly a few hundred guests per day and at least some of them take the same walk as you did I really want to believe this was an isolated incident. I sincerely wish you never have such a bad experience ever again and of course I wish no one else will. Please keep us posted.

By the way I have been with a new German girl a few times now I find highly attractive. Her name is Xenia but as I said she is not to be confused with the former Xenia who had been at Arte for years now. The new Xenia is a German brunette probably in her mid twenties, roughly 5'5' in height, beautiful natural slim body and with a gorgeous angelic face...Hi Diplomat,

The new German girl I mentioned in my report might be the same one. I saw her on Wednesday but not Thursday. (My dates were off by one in my initial report). She was reserved and seldom walked around. I approached her. (I prefer approaching myself and really dislike being approached by the girls at Artemis). She and I had a great session together. Afterwards, I noticed no guys approached her despite her being probably the best girl out there. So I talked to her a few times about. She complained that guys just ignored her and went for other girls whom I considered undesirable. Eventually I caught lying on a seat downstairs almost sobbing to herself. So I dragged her back to the bar, told her to sit with me, in the middle of the bar, and maintained an open body stance toward the floor instead of the closed one she had been in all night. Eventually some guy passed and examined her with obvious interest. He thought she was with me and walked away. I grabbed him and recommended her to him. That's when she scolded for saying those silly words. I apologized and we decided that I stepped away for a moment now that she was in an open, high-traffic spot with proper body language. (I used to spend a lot of time on bar pickups). Shortly afterwards she hooked up with a youngish looking guy. I was happy for her. The sad part is when I saw her again a couple of hours later and greeted her, she turned a cold shoulder. C'est la vie.

Part of the reason why I went back to Artemis on Thursday was to see if she came back. She didn't. Her name was Lana. She's from Nurnburg.

[Neutron Flux]

Shit man, very sorry for you FrenchLover.


Assume you mean the small road by the Mller Tire Store going towards the S Bahn Westkreuz station. Normally full of people, and often police or others.
Normally yes, but not at 3:30 am. Me too have been walking that road many times at pretty much any time of the day or night. While I never had any problem either I do remember though that it is one of those streets where I put on my mental alert in the middle of the night, because it is rather dark and deserted. Not that I think it would have helped much in the situation described by FL. Yes, normally this one of the better areas of town, also I think its rather unlikely that this incident was connected in any way to your A visit, but you never know. Lots of people take the public transport to and from Artemis, maybe even the majority. Unfortunetely, while its not that bad on a global scale, I have to mention that Berlin is one of the lesser safe cities in Germany and its police is notoriously understaffed. I recall there were also some incidents in the U- or S-Bahn not too long ago.

But yes,



Any big city, any where in the deepest night, can be a problem. It was just wrong place wrong time.This is true. Very unlucky indeed.

Haha, I was actually thinking of going there tomorrow and taking that route (and I won't pay extra for the taxi just because of that). Actually, do you regulars here think that's a good idea or will it be too crowded?

[Rocketboy0]

I have to mention that Berlin is one of the lesser safe cities in Germany and its police is notoriously understaffed. I recall there were also some incidents in the U- or S-Bahn not too long ago.Haha, I was actually thinking of going there tomorrow and taking that route (and I won't pay extra for the taxi just because of that). Actually, do you regulars here think that's a good idea or will it be too crowded?The incidents were quite a while ago, on S-Bahns but in very different more outlying areas of the city. Berlin is one of Germany's,Europe's, indeed the world's safer cities, especially considering all the sex drugs and rock and roll that goes on here, with a somewhat high rate of unemployment and mix of foreigners. Though there is no one, simple good source, you can knock yourself out on these stats-

http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

Of over 330 cities, Berlin ranks around 285 (dump the table into an excel sheet and sort by the crime number)-better than London, Paris, Stockholm, Copenhagen, all major US cities, and even rich Hamburg, and essentially tied with Frankfurt, though worse than Muenchen, the safest big city in DE.

This really was a sad, weird one off, and surely no one marked our unlucky victim (think about that-how could it possibly make sense, with hundreds walking through there every night, to single out one person, unknown, unknown exit time etc). Just bad luck and don't wish it on anyone but it is extremely rare and unusual, esp there. The tiny road in question just between the main street and over the bridge, before you get to the station is, in the wee wee hours dark and deserted and so a ripe place, but this was just a fluke thing. Unless it was our old pal Norjan, seeking revenge...

Just use common sense, don't sit in an S Bahn car alone, and if really late or early in the morning, if at all possible, walk with another. You could just wait at the front door and ask as people leave who is going to Westkreuz station.

On busy-ness Thurs Himmelfart (you gotta love that name) night, I kind of doubt it. Many Berliners will be gone, a few girls likely also, but possibly a few new recruits and while some tourists might be in, probably a wash. It has been oddly busier on the weekends lately so who knows. But it surely won't be a big deal either way.

[Astonmartin]

Her name is Xenia but as I said she is not to be confused with the former Xenia who had been at Arte for years now...What about former Xenia is she still there? I have not seen in my last two visits.

[Pistons]

Perhaps Berlin is not the safest place in Germany, but the area around Artemis is probably the safest place in the whole former Eastern Germany, although strictly speaking Artemis lies in western Berlin which was not part of eastern germany.

I have also walked in the area late at night many times, and never felt unsafe. I feel much more unsafe in Paris or London for example.

[Neutron Flux]

The incidents were quite a while ago, on S-Bahns but in very different more outlying areas of the city. Berlin is one of Germany's,Europe's, indeed the world's safer cities, especially considering all the sex drugs and rock and roll that goes on here, with a somewhat high rate of unemployment and mix of foreigners. Though there is no one, simple good source, you can knock yourself out on these stats-

http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

Of over 330 cities, Berlin ranks around 285 (dump the table into an excel sheet and sort by the crime number)-better than London, Paris, Stockholm, Copenhagen, all major US cities, and even rich Hamburg, and essentially tied with Frankfurt, though worse than Muenchen, the safest big city in DE.
Thanks for the info. Not to disagree but I remembered that I read something on the Spiegel site so I searched the web, and while I did not find it, here's what I found: According to the federal criminal agency (go to bka dot de slash en and then publications) Berlin has the highest crime rate of all the federal states incl. The other city states, with cities over 200k inhabitants it ranks fourth behind Frankfurt, Dusseldorf and Cologne, and no. 1 in robberies for 2012 (latest numbers). But yes, London and Paris are much worse and also Rome, Barcelona and Lisbon (never been to Madrid). And the Americas are a totally different level.



On busy-ness Thurs Himmelfart (you gotta love that name) night, I kind of doubt it. Many Berliners will be gone, a few girls likely also, but possibly a few new recruits and while some tourists might be in, probably a wash. It has been oddly busier on the weekends lately so who knows. But it surely won't be a big deal either way.I was thinking busy because it is an announced party night as per the website, maybe because of that East German little wagon being drunk off the tits thing (and some tours could end at that location), and possibly there are more mid-week stranded work slaves far away from home like me, who don't have anything else to do, particularly since the weather is crap. But hopefully you're right. I'll let you guys know if I survived. BTW if anyone wants to meet up (not at Am Westkreuz, haha), let me know.

[Nooky Ninja]

Ninja sleeping long time, now wake up. Odd that in night in question (03:15, 23 May), no police report about incident in official log:

http://www.berlin.de/polizei/polizeimeldungen/?page_at_1_1=2

Nothing written about incident, around date and time FL reports, or in reports hours / days later.

Maybe FrenchLover clarify this as he talked with them. Maybe some local German expert friends comment. Ninja not so good in Deutsch.

[FrenchLover]

Ninja sleeping long time, now wake up. Odd that in night in question (03:15, 23 May), no police report about incident in official log:

http://www.berlin.de/polizei/polizeimeldungen/?page_at_1_1=2

Nothing written about incident, around date and time FL reports, or in reports hours / days later.

Maybe FrenchLover clarify this as he talked with them. Maybe some local German expert friends comment. Ninja not so good in Deutsch.I talked to the west end police. I was also perplexed by lack of news report. Mugging with a gun is a big deal in berlin. Thanks for finding that link. I'll look into the matter and make sure what happened doesn't get buried. I reckon that the police department does have incentives to not report the crime in order to keep down the crime statistics.

[Nooky Ninja]

Ninja sleeping long time, now wake up. Odd that in night in question (03:15, 23 May), no police report about incident in official log:.Ninja check earlier night 22 May as date confusion-also nothing.

[BegaBega]

Does Fernanda of the twins Fernanda & Valentina returned at Artemis?

[Fantaz]

Hi All,

I never been to FKK and Artemis but plan to be in my next visit to Berlin.

I have few stupid\newbie questions.

1) Are you wearing the bathrobe at the place all the time?

What about the pool and sauna? I believe you won't swim with it.

2) Are met the girls all over the place and not only in the main bar?

3) Any sexual activity outside the rooms? I read about HJ and BJ in the cinema. Do they charge you on it?

Thanks in advance

[Nooky Ninja]

Ninja sleeping long time, now wake up. Odd that in night in question (03:15, 23 May), no police report about incident in official log:Ninja also check reports starting 22 May as some date confusion. Same result, no police report.

[Pharisaer]

1) Are you wearing the bathrobe at the place all the time? What about the pool and sauna?...I believe you won't swim with it...Usual dresscode in the two bars is bathrobe or towel. Some stupid people visiting sauna, jacuzzi or pool dressed in her bathrob. Most people don't.


2) Are met the girls all over the place and not only in the main bar?All over the place. Note: If a girl wears a towel wrapped around her hips, it usually means: Not available.


3) Any sexual activity outside the rooms? I read about HJ and BJ in the cinema...do they charge you on it?Sucking and fucking in the rooms and in the small tents in the main bar as well as in the cinemas. Sometimes a BJ in the main bar. You're charged for sexual activity elsewhere.

[Member #4347]

Hi All,

I never been to fkk and artemis but plan to be in my next visit to berlin.

I have few stupid\newbie questions ...

1) Are you wearing the bathrobe at the place all the time?

What about the pool and sauna?...I believe you won't swim with it...

2) Are met the girls all over the place and not only in the main bar?

3) Any sexual activity outside the rooms? I read about HJ and BJ in the cinema...do they charge you on it?

Thanks in advanceI will not say your questions are stupid but at least one question is a little funny and I really believe you should read a little more in this forum because if you did that some of your questions wouldn't come to your mind.

1) You can choose between bathrobe or towel and you wear it all the time except when you have sex and you wear it neither when you go swimming. In the sauna you can wear a towel if you like.

2) You can meet the girls everywhere, most of them will be in the main bar room, some walk around of course and they will surely approach you when you go to one of the two cinemas. The wellness and outdoor areas are a little more calm but you can be sure the more desperate girls will find you where ever you are.

3) In the main bar room there are a few beds with curtains like little tents where you can have sex if the girl agrees to it, also you can have sex in the porn cinemas and in rooms on the upper level, downstairs as well as in the rooms located in the outdoor area. HJ and BJs are no problem at all but of course you will ALWAYS be charged. Its still a brothel and sex is not included in the entrance fee. So even if they just suck your cock in the cinema you will still be charged 60 euros.

Cheers,

Diplomat

By the if you have no experience at all do yourself a favor and read more in this forum and don't be afraid to ask anything you need to know before you go with a girl, otherwise you might end up like some of the guys who posted reports here after having really bad experiences that could have been easily avoided.

[Rocketboy0]

Sucking and fucking in the rooms and in the small tents in the main bar as well as in the cinemas. Sometimes a BJ in the main bar. You're charged for sexual activity elsewhere.This could also be a good name for an Artemis pub.

Pharisaer-to be clear for our new potential guest, you are charged for sexual activity anywhere it occurs. Once a girl moves beyond any light affectionate touching or a kiss, the clock starts, where ever you are, and when. It can be a little grey like if a girl starts to fondle you at the bar or cinema area, you can still say no and walk. But once you allow it to continue, you are in the 60 Euros and counting zone. A girl will surely try to move things along so it is obvious after a point. But newbs should be aware and act accordingly. And has been said 1000s of times, do not let things proceed if it does not feel right chemistry wise, no matter how cute or seductive...

[Spectacular]

Ninja also check reports starting 22 May as some date confusion. Same result, no police report.Do you seriously expect that every single crime in Berlin will be included in that list? I don't.

[Dearen]

Hi guys,

Next week end I'll be in Berlin. And Artemis of course. Do Arielle and Solida still work in the club?

Thank you.

[Nooky Ninja]

Do you seriously expect that every single crime in Berlin will be included in that list? I don't.Ninja talk with German friends-all say alleged incident serious and would be in report. It is local custom. Berlin Police take reporting serious (and many other less dramatic things) if you look at link. Ninja say strange.

[Kimino]

Great weather yesterday in Berlin, sun, warm pool (that's the dolphins part), great fun in the external facilities.

Was there all day and really relaxed, although economically this trip was a disaster. Definitely too many extras and long sessions. LOL.

Nice vibe at the club, it was quite a while I didn't visit on a Friday. Kind of crowded at times. At 3:30 am there where 7/8 couples waiting for the room, but surprisingly it only took a 10 minute wait.

Started with Mila. Been with Raffaella after almost 2 years and closed the night with Natasha, as usual. All reported ad nauseam so I won't loose your time repeating things.

But tried 2 new girls, for me.

Juliette. Was attracted by her stockings, finger free gloves, bracelets, shoes and her sexy look. Petite, long blonde hair (ext), small face, Russian from Moscow (that's what she said). 8 days in the house. She doesn't walk around a lot, stays mainly sitting at the bar. Hot girl, responsive and deep kisser (for those who dig that, obviously YMMV). Recommended.

Then, Malik. Turkish, been there for quite a long time. Dark hair and eyes (I think), beutiful body. Another kisser. Had a 30 min session which I enjoyed a lot. Will absolutely repeat. Recommended.

Thanks to the other ISGers for the nice chatting.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Member #4347]

I agree with Kimino it has been a beautiful day yesterday. Spending time with old and new friends and especially having dozens of naked women around you hunting you I must say there is much worse on this earth. BTW thanks to the ISG guys for the chats I am pleased we have met.

I spent an hour with gorgeous German blonde Nadja who is one of my favorite girls for roughly a year now and as always I didn't regret it. After taking a long break I decided to approach one of the new girls. Lana is a German blonde medium height and silicone boobs and if I remember correctly she is at Arte for 2 weeks now even though someone told me she had been there before. However it was clear she has been to other clubs but still quite new to Arte and I would say she was highly motivated and somehow refreshing which is surely a nice thing for someone like me who has seen and been with so many girls there. Lets just say we had it all and it was somewhere between a real nice GFE and a light PSE if there is such a thing. To my surprise when I came from the shower and entered the room I was ferociously attacked with DFK and her probing every inch of my body. She then performed a skillful DT and I was subjected to the most intense treatment. Honestly I didn't go easy on her neither so yes I fucked her in at least 4 positions during the following 25 minutes and I would have definitely extended the session but I had another session planned with another girl so we had a pleasant little conversation in the remaining few moments and I will most likely repeat with her.

I then waited for a long time for one very special girl who I wanted to do my last session with but sadly she was booked for the rest of the night. Its funny that even after all this time and after having so many girls and after those many experiences there are moments when you feel like a teenager waiting for this special call. And then the point comes when you realize that she will not call and you feel a little stupid for waiting in the first place and then finally you go home.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Rocketboy0]

Great weather yesterday in Berlin, sun, warm pool (that's the dolphins part), great fun in the external facilities.Kimino.Well this is all nice but what most people want to know is, while security was banging on the door, did you have another of those Tarantino-esque goodbyes with Natasha? Lots of new BMWs in the parking lot :cool:

[FrenchLover]

Ninja talk with German friends-all say alleged incident serious and would be in report. It is local custom. Berlin Police take reporting serious (and many other less dramatic things) if you look at link. Ninja say strange.I thought the same way. I've sent an inquiry to info@berlin.de. When I get back to the states, I'll also check with my interpreter who interpreted for me at the police station. I also need a copy of the police report for my own record keeping. I forgot to ask for one when they drove me back to my hotel. Rest assured, I won't let this incident swept under the rug.

[Mr Ho]

I am planning trip to Artemis in end of August. From 21 of August to 31st of August.

I have been to Artemis in summer time, but only in end of July.

Contrary to what has been mentioned in this forum, the line up of girls were quite good in July. During my July visit, I noticed many girls who were just working in Artemis for summer jobs and I also spotted few girls from other major FKK (summer time support for Artemis line up? I especially enjoyed those summer job girls as they were more next doors amateur type of girls mainly from Eastern Europe.

However, I never been to Artemis in August. So I am wondering how the line up is toward end of August.

In September, there is big events in Messe from September 3rd till September 14th. I am aware that this consecutive event dates at Messe will attract girls to come and work in Artemis, so I am hoping that some girls will obviously arrive at Artemis a week before in end of August which is exactly my visit? Am I being optimistic here?

At the same time, I was in Artemis in September last year and during the first two weeks of September, Artemis was PACKED with both punters and girls that the place was so hard to relax or even find available girls or room. So in one way I wold like to avoid busy event season this year.

Well, if someone been to Artemis toward end of August, please let me know how the line up was for your August visit.

Also I just read that Marketa left the club? That is real shame as she was one of old line up and she always provided good service with good spirit. I wish her well in Prague!

[Pharisaer]

I have been to Artemis in summer time, but only in end of July. (. ) However, I never been to Artemis in August. So I am wondering how the line up is toward end of August. IMHO there will be no significant difference.


In September, there is big events in Messe from September 3rd till September 14th. I am aware that this consecutive event dates at Messe will attract girls to come and work in Artemis, so I am hoping that some girls will obviously arrive at Artemis a week before in end of August which is exactly my visit? Am I being optimistic here?You're right there. The return of our heroes will start end of August. Main fairs are IFA (Sep 05-10) and Innotrans (Sep 23-26).


Also I just read that Marketa left the club?So the rumours are in circulation. But some of them come back, nothing lasts eternally, neither love nor money.

[Oxano1983]

Hello,

Please can you tell me what are prices for extras if there are any? (CIM, COF.).

In Austria very expensive, all extras 60€ with anal 100€ which is expensive in my opinion.

Thank you.

[Oxano1983]

Hello,

Please can you tell me what are prices for extras if there are any? (CIM, COF.).

In Austria very expensive, all extras 60€ with anal 100€ which is expensive in my opinion.

Thank you.

[Mr Ho]

IMHO there will be no significant difference.

You're right there. The return of our heroes will start end of August. Main fairs are IFA (Sep 05-10) and Innotrans (Sep 23-26).

So the rumours are in circulation. But some of them come back, nothing lasts eternally, neither love nor money. Thanks for your reply. Yes, September seemed to be insane month in Artemis. I did early September Artemis last year and I think twice about doing Artemis during that time of the year.

I guess this real PACKED situation may apply to any time when there is consecutive events at Messe. Some punters may like it that way, but for me I guess I try to hit Artemis just one week before Messe events, hoping girls will be back for warm up week before the Messe event begin? LOL.

But really when I went to Artemis during July, the line up was not bad at all. You do not get some of usual girls, but I met a lot of girls that are only there for summer and also I noticed meeting girls who just begin working in Artemis in summer. Maybe they want to begin during low Punter summer season to get used to the club or something? For instance, I met German Ivy about 3 or 4 years ago during summer season, she just began working in Artemis then (in July). I remember her as next door amateur type then, but each year I go back, her skill improves, it is fun to see how the girls will grow into kinda amateur to Pro girls as years pass by in Artemis, or sometimes some girls become opposite LOL.

Ok so I most likely will try hitting Artemis in end of August then, I mean I never went in August, so let see how it will be during that time of the year. After all it is all pure luck isn't it? And there is no set formulas when the line up is solid, but I still got to ask because it is the mindset of Punter LOL.

[Aceh725]

Anybody knows what is the telephone number to do (to call by foreign country) to ask information about the presence of a girl to the reception? They usually answer in english or only german?

Thanks in advance.

[Toto001]

Anybody knows what is the telephone number to do (to call by foreign country) to ask information about the presence of a girl to the reception? They usually answer in english or only german?

Thanks in advance. You have to dial ++ 49 (germany) 30 (Berlin) 8904440 (for artemis) . I am sure they can reply such easy things in english.

[Kimino]

Anybody knows what is the telephone number to do (to call by foreign country) to ask information about the presence of a girl to the reception? They usually answer in english or only german?

Thanks in advance. http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/kontakt/?langswitch_lang=de

At the beginning of the page there is a number, info-hotline.

She was there last Friday. :)

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Aceh725]

http://www. fkk-artemis. de/page/kontakt/?langswitch_lang=de

At the beginning of the page there is a number, info-hotline.

She was there last Friday.

Cheers.

KiminoYes I used that number, I did +49 30 890 444 10 but they answered me in german. Many thanks, you know why I ask this information, because last month I didn't find her.

Last time, you told me that she was in the club but I could go only the week after and she wasn't there, probably she came back to home. So this time I want be absolutely sure.

Ciao.

[DanishBacon]

Does Fernanda of the twins Fernanda & Valentina returned at Artemis?I've been severel times, especially over the last two months. I've not seen any of them there, not even at the weekends.

I get the feeling, that they left the club for good, but have no real evidence to support that. Any reason would be speculation from my part.

[Pharisaer]

Hello, Please can you tell me what are prices for extras if there are any? (CIM, COF. ).
CIM = 50, COF = 50, anal = 100. DO NOT PAY any other additional fee for DFK or DATY.

[Oxano1983]

CIM = 50, COF = 50, anal = 100. DO NOT PAY any other additional fee for DFK or DATY.Thank you so much. Very good info!

[Schauer]

I've been severel times, especially over the last two months. I've not seen any of them there, not even at the weekends.

I get the feeling, that they left the club for good, but have no real evidence to support that. Any reason would be speculation from my part.I met Fernanda and her twin (both under a different nom de plume) about a month ago in a Berlin hotel. They had declared it their farewell weekend, as they want to focus on their studies now. Artemis was only a little side project in their exploration of the business, in my opinion they will return to upscale escorting, should they decide to resume their activities.

[Schauer]

Hi guys,

Next week end I'll be in Berlin. And Artemis of course. Do Arielle and Solida still work in the club?

Thank you.I was with Solida on Monday this week, she is around at the moment.

[Piper145]

Will be in Berlin June 27,28, and 29 and I was hoping to visit Artemis for the first time. Actually it would be my first time to any FKK. If anyone will be there and wouldn't mind a newbie tagging along, let me know.

[NYMike]

Hi. I will be in the area the last week of August and first of September. Am I correct that this is a very crowded time of year? What is the atmosphere like during the day and night at Artemis? I will most likely stay at one of the hotels in walking distance from Artemis.

Thanks

[Dearen]

I was with Solida on Monday this week, she is around at the moment.Thank you very much. Anyone have seen Arielle in last month?

[AugustYa]

Hi. I will be in the area the last week of August and first of September. Am I correct that this is a very crowded time of year? Oh! Even I didn't know this! Is this true? And is this the case only for Artemis in Berlin or also the clubs in Frankfurt?

[Pharisaer]

Hi. I will be in the area the last week of August and first of September. Am I correct that this is a very crowded time of year? I will most likely stay at one of the hotels in walking distance from Artemis. ThanksMain fairs are IFA (Sep 05-10) and Innotrans (Sep 23-26). Artemis will be packed especially during the nights. Come early, fuck early, beat the rush, if you can. Maybe it's difficult to find rooms for reasonable prices in a walking distance, but: just try your luck. Note: Berlin Fairground is just a short walk away from Artemis, too.

[Kimino]

Thank you very much. Anyone have seen Arielle in last month?Was there last Friday.

Kimino.

[BegaBega]

I met Fernanda and her twin (both under a different nom de plume) about a month ago in a Berlin hotel. They had declared it their farewell weekend, as they want to focus on their studies now. Artemis was only a little side project in their exploration of the business, in my opinion they will return to upscale escorting, should they decide to resume their activities.Was Fernanda ans sis in a luxury hotel? People told me they have changing name and have black hair. Maybe they are working for a escort agency. I hope to see them.

Working again. Difficult to know. Sure it's very very rare to meet beaiful young twins sister work good in this business!

[Dearen]

Was there last Friday.

Kimino.I hope she'll be also tomorrw. I came to Berlin in December but she wasn't in the club. I miss her: D

Thanks Kimino.

[Big Ass Eater]

I will be visiting Artemis in Berlin for the first time pretty soon. Since I don't know the place I don't know what to expect. I just hope I won't have any trouble with aggressive and desperate chicks, and also hope to avoid rip-offs. The last thing I need is to be seduced by a hottie, who then transforms into a witch in private. I dislike young women, prefer the maturer kind, at least 30+. Also love pale skin and nice curves, a bit like the Polish and Russian girls in general. I hope there are some like that. Do you have anything you'd like to recommend a newbie like me? And by the way, I don't have a car and planning on getting there by train. Is the place visible from the station where I get off? Thanks for an interesting thread!

[Neutron Flux]

And by the way, I don't have a car and planning on getting there by train. Is the place visible from the station where I get off? No. RTFT / RTFF / Artemis website / google maps on how to get there, very easy. Can recommend the Russians Natasha and Sophie but Natasha is a bit on the skinny side and either do not exactly have big asses and the latter may not meet your age criterium. Both were there last week and typically work late shifts. In the end I think you're old enough to make your own choices, the thread has all the basic info you need.

[Neutron Flux]

After all it is all pure luck isn't it? And there is no set formulas when the line up is solidAbsolutely this. This should be stickied to the forum. You should be fine on your dates though. I generally have the feeling, that Artemis is less affected by seasonal variance than other clubs but the top 3-5 fairs should be taken into account in Berlin as well as FRA / DUS.

BTW despite on what was predicted here last week Thursday it was absolutely packed when I entered in the evening but fortunately did not follow the usual curve of filling up later in the night but rather got better from around 10/11 pm. Apparently there were a lot of punters who needed to work early on Fridays or were already drunk enough IDK. I can tell you though Artemis is a lot more fun with free alcohol but ofc that does not help with performance, haha. Don't want to provide a full report, it might by slightly embarrassing, haha, but the only new girl I had was Rosy, introduced herself as Gina Lollabrigida. Blonde / light brunette perm, size 36, see -cups. Due to the issue just discussed I do not remember if she did FK, haha, but I remember her being nice and extremely good BBBJ, so Ill recommend. I met the Brianna discussed somewhere below, nice girl, but didn't session, frankly because I was too drunk.

Fun but true story in the end, when I left late at night (totally over the hill drunk), I thought of the violent crimes reporting here last week and thought to myself that was just the right last incentive I need to cab it, but the taxi driver refused to drive me. Not because I had been too drunk but he claimed he had waited for a long time and it was not enough money (I was staying in Charlottenburg, probably 15 e drive max). I could have argued because I don't think that's actually allowed in Germany (but could be wrong) but was way too drunk and tired for that so I walked the walk, sure enough, no incidences worth noting at Westkreuz.

[Kimino]

I dislike young women, prefer the maturer kind, at least 30+. Also love pale skin and nice curves, a bit like the Polish and Russian girls in general. I hope there are some like that. Do you have anything you'd like to recommend a newbie like me? The keyword here is "Natasha". Russian, definitely over 30, pale, not particularly curvy. Extreme high quality service, YMMV, obviously.

Kimino.

[Finite]

The keyword here is "Natasha". Russian, definitely over 30, pale, not particularly curvy. Extreme high quality service, YMMV, obviously.

Kimino.What about Jekaterina "Katja"? She must be at least thirty, have pale skin and a rather big arsch. Or maybe she quit? I'm thinking about going again soon, has anyone in here used the gym? I guess it must be ok to wear at least shorts and a t-shirt when working out, don't want to do that in the bathrobe or in the nude. :)

[RempNobbes]

I will be visiting Artemis in Berlin for the first time pretty soon. Since I don't know the place I don't know what to expect. I just hope I won't have any trouble with aggressive and desperate chicks, and also hope to avoid rip-offs. The last thing I need is to be seduced by a hottie, who then transforms into a witch in private. I dislike young women, prefer the maturer kind, at least 30+. Also love pale skin and nice curves, a bit like the Polish and Russian girls in general. I hope there are some like that. Do you have anything you'd like to recommend a newbie like me? And by the way, I don't have a car and planning on getting there by train. Is the place visible from the station where I get off? Thanks for an interesting thread!Hello. I personally can recommend Anetta. A blond curvy blue eyed girl with excellent service in room. She has Hungarian blood but lives in Germany long time. So she speaks German and English. And others when you know what I mean. Have fun. Greetings from Nobbes and say Hello, please.

[Blover34]

Hi all.

Been to Artemis for the second time last week.

What can I say this place is amazing.

I had a great time with Iman the Ethiopian girl, she has amazing BJ skills and the way she goes down on you is a show, with legs straight. Never in my life I saw a girl give a BJ this way. She has big boos and a slim amazing body.

I also met and talked with a lot of beautiful Romanian girls.

There is one girl in there named " heaven" does anyone knows her.

She's amazing beautiful with a top model body, didn't have the chance to take her since someone took her for around 5 hours and until she came back I was already over done.

I'd really appreciate any information if you have any.

I hope I will visit the club again in a month and I don't want to miss this amazing girl.

[Kimino]

No. RTFT / RTFF / Artemis website / google maps on how to get there, very easy. Can recommend the Russians Natasha and Sophie but Natasha is a bit on the skinny side and either do not exactly have big asses and the latter may not meet your age criterium. Both were there last week and typically work late shifts. In the end I think you're old enough to make your own choices, the thread has all the basic info you need.Ciao Neutro Flux. What does Sophie look like? I would like to identify her.

Kimino.

[Kimino]

What about Jekaterina "Katja"? She must be at least thirty, have pale skin and a rather big arsch. Or maybe she quit? I'm thinking about going again soon, has anyone in here used the gym? I guess it must be ok to wear at least shorts and a t-shirt when working out, don't want to do that in the bathrobe or in the nude. :)Thinking about it, Czech Esther, curly hair, usually wearing a corset and Polish Sandra, both meet the criteria a bit and both give good service.

Sorry, never tryed the gym.

Kimino.

[Big Ass Eater]

No. RTFT / RTFF / Artemis website / google maps on how to get there, very easy. Can recommend the Russians Natasha and Sophie but Natasha is a bit on the skinny side and either do not exactly have big asses and the latter may not meet your age criterium. Both were there last week and typically work late shifts. In the end I think you're old enough to make your own choices, the thread has all the basic info you need.Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. The club has photos of dozens of girls on the website. I particularly liked the one called Fana. However, most of them seem to be quite young, around 22-25 yo. And I don't know if the info on the site is updated. There is a slight chance that some of those girls aren't working anymore. Anyways, I will be there on a Friday so I guess the place will have more than enough babes to choose from. Can't wait!

[Mr Ho]

Fun but true story in the end, when I left late at night (totally over the hill drunk), I thought of the violent crimes reporting here last week and thought to myself that was just the right last incentive I need to cab it, but the taxi driver refused to drive me. Not because I had been too drunk but he claimed he had waited for a long time and it was not enough money (I was staying in Charlottenburg, probably 15 e drive max). I could have argued because I don't think that's actually allowed in Germany (but could be wrong) but was way too drunk and tired for that so I walked the walk, sure enough, no incidences worth noting at Westkreuz.Fortunately, I was never refused by Taxi driver in Artemis (I have in other places in Berlin), but Berlin is notorious for Taxi driver asking for tips, and also refusing to take short distance. Apparently there is special word for short ride in Berlin taxi service and it actually is special service option taxi company provide on their menu, but driver just refuse to do it on their own decision. I think they forgot they are employee and supposed to provide service that company told them to provide.

However, I also stay at around not charlottenberg, more toward memorial church of charloettenberg area. But you walked from Artemis to there. Drunk. After Artemis?? That is quite long way back with such a condition. I have borrowed city bike and went to Artemis with Bicycle before, and it was not exactly short trip. Maybe you should have tried to talk to driver but more better consult with reception at artemis, they are real nice specially once you get to know them and I am certain that they would have talked to driver for you, driver too come to Artemis as client on some special rate night. I think Monday is their night or something. Though somehow they seemed to be quite un popular among Artemis girls.

[Galazy2]

I will be visiting Artemis in Berlin for the first time pretty soon. Since I don't know the place I don't know what to expect. I just hope I won't have any trouble with aggressive and desperate chicks, and also hope to avoid rip-offs. The last thing I need is to be seduced by a hottie, who then transforms into a witch in private. I dislike young women, prefer the maturer kind, at least 30+. Also love pale skin and nice curves, a bit like the Polish and Russian girls in general. I hope there are some like that. Do you have anything you'd like to recommend a newbie like me? And by the way, I don't have a car and planning on getting there by train. Is the place visible from the station where I get off? Thanks for an interesting thread!30+ pale skin and curves? If you don't mind fake tits you could do worse than taking Jenna over the jumps. Atremis veteran who always gives good service, I find.

As for the train question. It's not visible from the station but it's easy to find. Luckily there is only one entrance / exit from Westkruz. Go out onto the main road and turn left, past the car parts place and walk on a few hundred metres. You will cross over the train tracks and The A. Is on your left.

[Pharisaer]

What about Jekaterina "Katja"? (...) Or maybe she quit?She didn't quit, but she isn't a regular. Recommended.


What does Sophie look like?Maybe 5'2''. Straight brown hair, shoulder-lenght. Not that skinny or slim, I'd call her curvy. IMHO natural hanging boobs. Sometimes hanging around with Mimi.

[FiddyCent]

The keyword here is "Natasha". Russian, definitely over 30, pale, not particularly curvy. Extreme high quality service, YMMV, obviously.

Kimino.Hello Kimino.

+1. I remember her nice massage and kissing. Very nice. Met with her for my last session a year ago. I am glad to hear that her service levels are still at a high standard. Of course, you're right. YMMV. I am thinking about a return to Artemis in the fall. Are there any ladies you would personally recommend. I think we may have similar tastes.

Thanks.

FiddyCent.

[Member #4581]

What time was it and were there no other taxis?


Absolutely this. This should be stickied to the forum. You should be fine on your dates though. I generally have the feeling, that Artemis is less affected by seasonal variance than other clubs but the top 3-5 fairs should be taken into account in Berlin as well as FRA / DUS.

....

Fun but true story in the end, when I left late at night (totally over the hill drunk), I thought of the violent crimes reporting here last week and thought to myself that was just the right last incentive I need to cab it, but the taxi driver refused to drive me. Not because I had been too drunk but he claimed he had waited for a long time and it was not enough money (I was staying in Charlottenburg, probably 15 e drive max). I could have argued because I don't think that's actually allowed in Germany (but could be wrong) but was way too drunk and tired for that so I walked the walk, sure enough, no incidences worth noting at Westkreuz.

[Neutron Flux]

Ciao Neutro Flux. What does Sophie look like? I would like to identify her.

Kimino.Hi Kimino,

Like Pharisear said, not very tall, brown hair, Russian face, not particularly slim or fat. Personally I don't find her boobs hanging too much, maybe a little bit, but more like natural b cups. She is my current favorite at A, puts on a very good show, a little bit like Natasha but not as over the top and obvious. I find that she has a lot of empathy, and can take you exactly where you want to go. Ofc no guarantees, YMMV whatever. She does not solicit as aggressively as Natasha, also I find the she often has a bit like a "Russian" look on her face in the main bar when she is alone that could be misinterpreted as lost or disinterested but she's very nice.

As for the taxi, I was just posting for info / fun. For privacy no exact details, but it was way past midnight, and yes there were one or two other taxis in line and could have gone to reception w / e if I was really in dire need, but I was in no mood for any of that after he refused they just lost my business and I took on the walk instead, it wasnt that bad. Yes, I know Berlin taxi drivers are a bit "special" like that.

[Member #4347]

I also met and talked with a lot of beautiful Romanian girls.

There is one girl in there named " heaven" does anyone knows her.

She's amazing beautiful with a top model body, didn't have the chance to take her since someone took her for around 5 hours and until she came back I was already over done.

I'd really appreciate any information if you have any.

I hope I will visit the club again in a month and I don't want to miss this amazing girl.Are you sure her name is "Heaven"? There is one very beautiful blonde with silicone boobs. She is of medium height and she has a very beautiful face too. She claims to be from Moldova which is very close to Romania so it might be her. She is recommended for great GFE and I have always seen some kind of good fairy aura in her. BTW the one I am talking about is called Heather and you will find a few pictures of her in the website's gallery. Some girls' pictures have not been updated, others are new. Heather still looks like she did when the pictures were taken.

[Blover34]

I'm almost sure her name is Heaven.

First she's not blonde and she doesn't have silicon boobs.

In fact she had small natural boobs but she's so so beautiful and has a body to die for.

I can only tell that she's a kind of girl you vision in your wet dreams.

Maybe someone will know who I talk about.

Thanks for your replay I appreciate it.


Are you sure her name is "Heaven"? There is one very beautiful blonde with silicone boobs. She is of medium height and she has a very beautiful face too. She claims to be from Moldova which is very close to Romania so it might be her. She is recommended for great GFE and I have always seen some kind of good fairy aura in her. BTW the one I am talking about is called Heather and you will find a few pictures of her in the website's gallery. Some girls' pictures have not been updated, others are new. Heather still looks like she did when the pictures were taken.

[Guy93]

Hello,

First of all sorry for posting this thread as a newcomer.

I'm coming to Berlin this week and thinking about spending some of my days at Artemis.

Buying sex is nothing new for me but I come from northern part of Europe and we don't have places like this.

Now I'll ask you some questions I have on my mind. Feel free to answer for them.

Q: Most important first question. I'm 20 yo and alone. Will they let me in?

Q: I guess I'll get a bathrobe, towels, and a key to a locker after I paid?

Q: Am I forced to pay for little chat or is it just okay to leave the girl after a while if I choose not to pay for session?

Q: Girls always got the condoms I guess?

Q: Are the current rates 60 e /120 e?

That's pretty much all I can think for now. You may also post some useful information if you like.

[Mr Ho]

Hello,

First of all sorry for posting this thread as a newcomer.

I'm coming to Berlin this week and thinking about spending some of my days at Artemis.

Buying sex is nothing new for me but I come from northern part of Europe and we don't have places like this.

Now I'll ask you some questions I have on my mind. Feel free to answer for them.

Q: Most important first question. I'm 20 yo and alone. Will they let me in?

Q: I guess I'll get a bathrobe, towels, and a key to a locker after I paid?

Q: Am I forced to pay for little chat or is it just okay to leave the girl after a while if I choose not to pay for session?

Q: Girls always got the condoms I guess?

Q: Are the current rates 60 e /120 e?

That's pretty much all I can think for now. You may also post some useful information if you like.Answers are yes to all your question. And for last question, it is 60 Euro for 30 min. And towels are piled up in changing room and in other places in clubs (by pool downstairs etc).

One thing, you do not need to pay the girl after you chat a little bit and ok to leave the girls. Some girls maybe bit pushy to take you to room, but there is no need to pay for just chatting, but let keep the chat within reasonable time as clients manner. Girls are there to work and time is money for them, but they won't charge you for just chatting.

You may face upsell like you have to pay for DFK etc, but no need to pay for that as well. With my humble experience, I noticed more up sell girls during low season (like summer) because you have support girls from other clubs and only summer working girls etc. Less up sell during normal or high season, but this is just my experience.

Artemis is very fair club and safe in this regards and no need to worry. Enjoy your first time there!

[Rocketboy0]

Q1: Most important first question. I'm 20 yo and alone. Will they let me in?
Q2: I guess I'll get a bathrobe, towels, and a key to a locker after I paid?
Q3: Am I forced to pay for little chat or is it just okay to leave the girl after a while if I choose not to pay for session?
Q4: Girls always got the condoms I guess?
Q5: Are the current rates 60 e /120 e?

That's pretty much all I can think for now. You may also post some useful information if you like.1,2,4,5, all Yes, 3, you can chat sometimes for a long while without paying, but once some sort of sexual contact starts, so does the clock (see the Clock and Cock post-May 30 search for it). It will be pretty obvious as at some point while talking, the girl will just ask so shall we go to a room and you accept or not and she will leave if not. In the sex kinos, things can get a little more grey so just don't do anything you don't want to.

Condoms. You can use their industrial strength ones or bring your own higher quality more sensitive ones as long as they are carefully packed and obviously safe to the girl's eyes.

Other info. Take it slow. Spend 1-2 hours just observing the scene, especially as some hottie you really want might be up in a zimmer when you arrive. Do not rush into anything-chat first. Say no thanks politely if it does not feel right as chemistry the most important thing. And you have to decide after chatting with a girl for a while, if you want certain things, especially kissing or DATY, ask directly (with a little style) so you don't get nasty mood changing surprise in the room. Most girls will do these but not all, and if it is important to you, ask. Search forum as there was some back and forth on this point recently, starting around May 14. Pace yourself as there will be many more choices as of 1930 or so. The forum is your friend but you have to do a little homework.

Report back how it all goes. If you are there Friday-a bunch of us will be there. One is bald, one has a beard, one just normal, some might be Italian, so should be easy to spot and just ask if we are ISGers-your are welcome to join.

[Banana Boi]

By the way I have been with a new German girl a few times now I find highly attractive. Her name is Xenia but as I said she is not to be confused with the former Xenia who had been at Arte for years now. The new Xenia is a German brunette probably in her mid twenties, roughly 5'5' in height, beautiful natural slim body and with a gorgeous angelic face. She had worked in another German club in North Rine Westphalia before Can anyone confirm if this is Xenia from GT Bruggen?

[Kimino]

If you are there Friday-a bunch of us will be there. One is bald, one has a beard, one just normal, some might be Italian, so should be easy to spot and just ask if we are ISGers-your are welcome to join.All will be playing the dolphins in the pool!

Kimino.

[Mr Styles]

Hello,

First of all sorry for posting this thread as a newcomer.

I'm coming to Berlin this week and thinking about spending some of my days at Artemis.

Buying sex is nothing new for me but I come from northern part of Europe and we don't have places like this.

Now I'll ask you some questions I have on my mind. Feel free to answer for them.

Q: Most important first question. I'm 20 yo and alone. Will they let me in?

Q: I guess I'll get a bathrobe, towels, and a key to a locker after I paid?

Q: Am I forced to pay for little chat or is it just okay to leave the girl after a while if I choose not to pay for session?

Q: Girls always got the condoms I guess?

Q: Are the current rates 60 e /120 e?


That's pretty much all I can think for now. You may also post some useful information if you like.They will let you in. I am Latin looking, an obvious foreigner, and yet they let me in. I don t think they discriminate. Have some I'd to prove your age in case you are asked for it. Once you pay, you walk ahead to the lockers, pack in your stuff, come out take a left and there are the towels, robes etc. This information is based on my last visit in 2010 so things could have changed. You can chat and leave, but the sharks will try and put pressure on you, especially if you are new. Just say, maybe later, and leave. Don t go for threesome offers or extra special offers that will get you sharked and l really blow your budget. Some of the girls work in teams and prey on newbies. Others are very sweet and will make an extra effort if you are new. You can use your own condoms. I always used my own. Yes, the prices are the same as far as I know.

Here is what worked for me. I did the same for FKK Oase. I made a list of the sharks and performers based on the reports here, and memorized it. I made an excel sheet, and based on the number of recommendations had a range, from outstanding (multiple great reports) to definitely avoid. (multiple negative reports) Took me a couple of days. So when I knew there I knew more or less who was great, and who would shark me once in the room. In this way, I had three good sessions. Also, they will ask you if it is your first time, and don t say yes. Chemistry is important, but the sharks go for the newbies, are very sweet outside the room, and then once inside you get jacked. Chemistry is something that can easily be faked. So, I would strongly suggest making a list of the known sharks from this site and the performers, instead of relying purely on chemistry. Yes, you can bring your own condoms, you will get a bathrobe, towels, and the key to the locker.

[Kimino]

So, I would strongly suggest making a list of the known sharks from this site and the performers, instead of relying purely on chemistry.If I may add something to this, we shouldn't forget about the language factor.

A list (that should be printed on waterproof material in case you decide to bath or take a sauna) could be easily forgot or even worse lost behind enemy lines. Giving very valuable information to the sharks that might decide to swap their names or just make up new ones for the occasion.

The girls are used to tourists so they normally can read / write any language you can think of. In case the language is not spoken directly by the girl, she can always bring it up to the Intelligence Dept. On the third floor, where someone will translate it foe her.

So, kind of difficult to decide in which language should the list be compiled, but, I suggest Klingon. Not very common, also for Artemis standards, and it should take max a couple of weeks to learn, so, not a big problem.

Kimino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8WWd19Ok1c

[FiddyCent]

If I may add something to this, we shouldn't forget about the language factor.

A list (that should be printed on waterproof material in case you decide to bath or take a sauna) could be easily forgot or even worse lost behind enemy lines. Giving very valuable information to the sharks that might decide to swap their names or just make up new ones for the occasion.

The girls are used to tourists so they normally can read / write any language you can think of. In case the language is not spoken directly by the girl, she can always bring it up to the Intelligence Dept. On the third floor, where someone will translate it foe her.

So, kind of difficult to decide in which language should the list be compiled, but, I suggest Klingon. Not very common, also for Artemis standards, and it should take max a couple of weeks to learn, so, not a big problem.

Kimino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8WWd19Ok1cHello Kimino.

I am so glad you and the rest of the girls speak my language too. I just figured they all spoke Romulan.

The girls will try several greetings with you. Mostly the fake conversation. Spend some time examining the body language of the girls and how they interact with the other Klingons. If she is good, you will usually find the good girls at the lockers and the guys very happy.

K'plah.

FiddyCent.

[Rocketboy0]

So, kind of difficult to decide in which language should the list be compiled, but, I suggest Klingon. Not very common, also for Artemis standards, and it should take max a couple of weeks to learn, so, not a big problem. Kimino.Kimino-san, these are all very good points. But regardless of the language, the essential problem remains: who's list can we trust? McCarthy's? Schindler's? Letterman's? Spock's? Styles'?

Remember the ancient Cuntfucian saying: One man's shark is another man's blowfish. And one man's performer is another man's piranha.

Just make sure if you are packing a list, you bring it on a clipboard and wear an accountant's visor to complete the look. Shock and awe.

Somebody shake me, but isn't Ye Olde Fick Fabrik supposed to just be fun?

[Dearen]

Was there last Friday.

Kimino.I was in Artemis Saturday. And Arielle wasn't. Another time. I've asked to a girl I know and she told me that Arielle take a break from work 3 month ago for personal problems. So I'm thinking about if we are talking about the same girl. Arielle is a German girl. Tiny body. Pale skin. Short red hair. A written tatoo on the left side of the chest.

[Member #4581]

Visited Artemis today. First timer there. Got there a bit early and spent almost 5+'hours. When I reached around 4 PM the place looked like a morgue, perhaps 15-20 girls most of who looked just plain ugly and 10 to 15 men perhaps and very few sessions going on. My heart sank and thought this was going to be a waste of time and money but as the day went on, number of girls picked up significantly, perhaps to 60 or more, and the number of men was also similar. The place was humming around 9 PM when I left.

Standard topics - 80 euro to get in, 60 euro per session. So it is expensive relative to frankfurt clubs. I just took a cab from near Berlin zoo and back, which cost a bit more than ten euro, so can't say much about trains and getting there. Did nt take ny extras, but one girl said CIM is 50, so on par with Hessen clubs.

Because the pickings were so slim and sad, I waited for nearly a hour and half or more to get my first session. I wanted to get it out of the way, so settled on a cute brunette, who was chatting away with her buddy. When she finally came over and asked me, I said yes almost immediately, but just as almost immediately regretted it. On closer inspection, her face was not as cute as it seemed. Also it was dessous day, just my luck and she had a big tummy and sagging tits. We went to kino downstairs, as I am a public sex fan, but she refused to lick balls. Did nt even try kissing. But it had been a few days since I came, so it turned out to be a short session, and I was glad it was over. Her name she said was Kylie or something like that (could be Kelly too) and claimed to be from Czech Republic. Will not repeat, don't recommend. A bit of shark, clearly.

Second was Fatima, another brunette from Slovakia this time, very pretty face, flat tummy, great figure. She came over, offered her services and said she will kiss. It was a bit too soon after my session with Kylie, but WTF, I said ok. Down to kino we went, she did kiss, and gave a brief blow job and then went to a room to fuck. I slowed it a little, as I did not want to come, as I wanted to have another session, and did not think I could do 3 pops. Anyway, the slow fucking and slow blow job seemed to bore her, and she was trying to wrap up a bit too quickly, at the 20 min mark. I said, not so fast, still have ten minutes. She was reluctant, and then gave a short blow job again and asked me to give her a back rub. At around 25 min, all chemistry disappeared, and I said ok let's go. A bit of hot and cold session, first 15 min were great and then not so good, but she is very pretty. Not sure why she took the Moslem sounding Fatima name, she is quite white, and from Slovakia.

Last session was with a Polish blond called Caroline. She speaks the best English of all my girls and had a good sense of humor. I was checking her out, and finally sat next to her, and we spoke for about 15 min, and then said ok, let's go. She has a pretty face, not as pretty as Fatima but cute nonetheless, and great figure. We went to the kino downstairs, which was almost full, but we got a sofa and she gave me a blow job and then we fucked on the couch. Good session, I was a bit too excited, so it was a bit short, but I was happy. BTW, Caroline said she had worked at Oase and Palace some time ago, she has been at Artemis for 2 years, because she likes berlin much better than other German cities.

The quality of girls is overall ok, roughly comparable to Oase, not as pretty as sharks. Service levels are not great, it seemed like few girls kissed dfk and even fewer did ball lick and suck, at least as part of the standard 60 euro price for non regulars. But girls are wiling to fuck in kino, if that is something that tickles your fancy. The physical plant is pretty large, but the main lounge was so filled with smoke by the evening, it gives a huge headache to non smokers. Food was ok, they had some beef, fries, veggies, and salad and fruits, and some yogurt in the fridge. I am only focused on optics, and could nt give a fuck about massive service levels, I don't do daty or even dfk, so for me, this club is roughly comparable to Oase, may be slightly inferior, and of course Oase is cheaper.

[Pistons]

The quality of girls is overall ok, roughly comparable to Oase, not as pretty as sharks. Service levels are not great, it seemed like few girls kissed dfk and even fewer did ball lick and suck, at least as part of the standard 60 euro price for non regulars. But girls are wiling to fuck in kino, if that is something that tickles your fancy. The physical plant is pretty large, but the main lounge was so filled with smoke by the evening, it gives a huge headache to non smokers. Food was ok, they had some beef, fries, veggies, and salad and fruits, and some yogurt in the fridge. I am only focused on optics, and could nt give a fuck about massive service levels, I don't do daty or even dfk, so for me, this club is roughly comparable to Oase, may be slightly inferior, and of course Oase is cheaper.You must have a strange 'optical' taste in girls if you compare Oase to Artemis. I was just at Oase last weekend, and safe to say I will not go back in at least a few years. The selection there was the worst I've seen in a FKK, and two other mongerers I met there agreed with me. The selection at Oase these days coupled with the awful food policy makes it a complete waste of time and money. There is only one girl at Oase worth visiting as far as I know, and she only works a few days per month.

Artemis on the other hand has probably 10 girls I would go with. The selection at Artemis is far greater, and most days there are over 100 girls. On some peak days while there is a messe there can be even 200 girls working at Artemis. If it was your first day there you must have been extremely unlucky, or as mentioned have a strange taste in girls.

The service in Artemis is up and down from girl to girl as opposed to some of the clubs in western Germany where you can more generalise the girls in a club.

[Pistons]

The last thing I need is to be seduced by a hottie, who then transforms into a witch in private. I dislike young women, prefer the maturer kind, at least 30+. Also love pale skin and nice curves, a bit like the Polish and Russian girls in general.If Polish / Russians are your thing, then I would suggest Juliette if you happen to find her. She only works during weekends I believe. Otherwise the two all Spanish girls at Artemis give excellent service. So does two of the Bulgarians Carrie and the dark haired girl with angel wing tattoo on her back. A few of the Romanians give good service too, although some of them are well known to give poorer service to 'tourists' than they do to regulars. Some of the German girls give good service too, but talk a bit to them first. They are normally not believable actors, so it is easy to read the Germans from a short conversation.

[Kimino]

I was in Artemis Saturday. And Arielle wasn't. Another time. I've asked to a girl I know and she told me that Arielle take a break from work 3 month ago for personal problems. So I'm thinking about if we are talking about the same girl. Arielle is a German girl. Tiny body. Pale skin. Short red hair. A written tatoo on the left side of the chest.Oooops. Sorry about that Dearen. I definitely mixed things up. I was thinking at another girl.

Kimino.

[Banana Boi]

The selection at Artemis is far greater, and most days there are over 100 girls. How many girls would there be on a Sunday or Monday night? Trying to decide if I should hit Sharks on a Sunday or head up to Artemis.

[Member #4581]

I listed a couple of girls who I thought were pretty. That gives a sense of my optics. If you are a Artemis expert, as you seemed to be implying, you probably know these girls. I picked who I thought were the best lookers at Artemis, as that's my only criteria pretty much. I like slim, young, medium height, small and medium tits firm and not sagging in any way, and most importantly pretty face. I was approached by a few others, namely Nora, Raisa, Nadia, Avril, and a couple of others, but did not think they were pretty enough.

As for Oase, we will see. My data is a few months old, I don't live in Germany. Perhaps things are really bad there at Oase now. However, I see that ISGers are generally excessively pessimistic about Oase and even on my last visit I thought things were ok while reports were suggesting things were quite bleak even at that time.

Last night, there were definitely not 200 girls, and not even 100. There were a few other good lookers but none so stunning as to be "must fuckable" category for me.


You must have a strange 'optical' taste in girls if you compare Oase to Artemis. I was just at Oase last weekend, and safe to say I will not go back in at least a few years. The selection there was the worst I've seen in a FKK, and two other mongerers I met there agreed with me. The selection at Oase these days coupled with the awful food policy makes it a complete waste of time and money. There is only one girl at Oase worth visiting as far as I know, and she only works a few days per month.

Artemis on the other hand has probably 10 girls I would go with. The selection at Artemis is far greater, and most days there are over 100 girls. On some peak days while there is a messe there can be even 200 girls working at Artemis. If it was your first day there you must have been extremely unlucky, or as mentionned have a strange taste in girls.

The service in Artemis is up and down from girl to girl as opposed to some of the clubs in western germany where you can more generalise the girls in a club.

[Iceberg27]

Hi all,

I will be in Artemis for tomorrow and Sunday. If anyone around. Just pm me.

My second visit and I hope I make a good decision to prefer it over FRA clubs.

And IMHO it's much fresh and larger than OASE. Just an opinion.

Regards.

[Dearen]

Oooops. Sorry about that Dearen. I definitely mixed things up. I was thinking at another girl.

Kimino.Np Kimino,

Just to know. It seems that I'm unlucky with that girl:

BTW the Artemis line up is always good and my journey wasn't wasted.

[Pistons]

I listed a couple of girls who I thought were pretty. That gives a sense of my optics. If you are a Artemis expert, as you seemed to be implying, you probably know these girls. I picked who I thought were the best lookers at Artemis, as that's my only criteria pretty much. I like slim, young, medium height, small and medium tits firm and not sagging in any way, and most importantly pretty face. I was approached by a few others, namely Nora, Raisa, Nadia, Avril, and a couple of others, but did not think they were pretty enough.

As for Oase, we will see. My data is a few months old, I don't live in Germany. Perhaps things are really bad there at Oase now. However, I see that ISGers are generally excessively pessimistic about Oase and even on my last visit I thought things were ok while reports were suggesting things were quite bleak even at that time.

Last night, there were definitely not 200 girls, and not even 100. There were a few other good lookers but none so stunning as to be "must fuckable" category for me.I guess beauty is to a wide extent in the eyes of the beholder.

[Member #4581]

Do you have to guess?

BTW, they kept blaring that John Doe Once you put your drink on hold song again and again. I mean, seriously, can't they at least play a few more songs. I heard it at least ten times in my 5 hours there, and by the end I got so sick of it, I will be quite happy if I never hear it again in my life.


I guess beauty is to a wide extent in the eyes of the beholder.

[Blover34]

Have you ever been refused by a girl in Artemis?

There were two blind girls in the club, German I think.

One has a stylish haircut her left side near the ear is shaved and the other one is a tall blond that looks like barbi (amazing body and face).

Those to chicks always told me no!! It got me crazy.

It's not that I'm old, fat, ugly, stinky or any others.

I've been there nice with many girls talked with many of them for.

Long in the bar upstairs and went with a many of them but when I wanted those two I always got the same answer.

Or busy while they were not or just no.

Got me crazy!

Did it happen to anyone of you.

BTW what about heaven don't any of you met her and can write.

Some info about her.

Thank you all and I wish us all a happy "Mondial".

[Rocketboy0]

Do you have to guess?BTW, they kept blaring that John Doe Once you put your drink on hold song again and again. I mean, seriously, can't they at least play a few more songs. I heard it at least ten times in my 5 hours there, and by the end I got so sick of it, I will be quite happy if I never hear it again in my life.Once again, the rabies vaccine has been misplaced.

[Mr Ho]

Have you ever been refused by a girl in Artemis?

There were two blind girls in the club, German I think.

One has a stylish haircut her left side near the ear is shaved and the other one is a tall blond that looks like barbi (amazing body and face).

Those to chicks always told me no!! It got me crazy.

It's not that I'm old, fat, ugly, stinky or any others.

I've been there nice with many girls talked with many of them for.

Long in the bar upstairs and went with a many of them but when I wanted those two I always got the same answer...Tall blonde one sound familiar with your description. Is her name Nadia? She is tall, fake big boobs, quite few tattoos and I think she is from Hamburg. If it is her, she is nice person both in room and outside, but she is not the best performer in Artemis (she does anal etc, but not really GFE), so it is possible she may choose who to go with.

Other shaved on one side girl, I never really spotted her.

Going back to your question, I do not think it is too much to do with your looks or age in general. I think it is more to do with the experience she had with other clients that lead to give pre-judgement of other clients, which is understandable, but maybe unfair because it is prejudice to certain extent right? But I heard from some girls that she does not like going with such and such etc. Due to what happened to her etc. Artemis is safe / fair club, but apparently some problem sometimes do happen behind closed door. I mean some clients are drunk etc. So it is possible.

I never had such a experience of getting refused by girls at Artemis or any FKK, but I have been with girl who do not DFK. This happen time to time, which really annoys me, but I accept it (I mean do I have choice? At the same time, some girls service get real wild as you go with them more often, like they begin to DFK you among other more dirtier things LOL.

I had one exception though, I found the girl I liked 3 summer ago in Artemis, I took her for about 7 days straight every day (when I go to Artemis, I normally buy 12 times karten and I go every consecutive 12 days and fuck about 5 to 7 times each day), so more days I take her, I begin to do her more harder. I mean to spice up the sessions to avoid getting bored. Then last 2 day she asked me that she can only go with me 2 or 3 times a day because she get tired of sessions with me LOL so this is only refusal I had and it was my fault.

Please note that I did not treated her badly, disrespected her or nothing like that, I just got more extreme day by day because you know doing same girl every day from about 4 pm to about 1 am without not much rest beside dinner break could get real boring in FKK environment. , so I just got more and more insane as days went by. It is good memory though as I understand the situation from her point of view, it propably was more easier to go with other clients than sex animal I turned out to be after few days LOL.

[Member #4581]

Medicine can be bought again if you can afford a few bucks but it is of little help to folks bent upon attacking others because they hold views differing from your own.


Once again, the rabies vaccine has been misplaced.

[Delta Indigo]

The cool thing about Artemis is that almost every girl I was with offered anal as an extra. Also every girl had to give you blowjob without a condom which was great. I am wondering how Artemis compares to the Hessen clubs, do most girls there also offer anal as an extra and is Oral without a condom mandatory?

[Pharisaer]

There were two blind girls in the club, German I think. One has a stylish haircut her left side near the ear is shaved and the other one is a tall blond that looks like barbi (amazing body and face).


Tall blonde one sound familiar with your description. Is her name Nadia? She is tall, fake big boobs, quite few tattoos and I think she is from Hamburg. If it is her, she is nice person both in room and outside, but she is not the best performer in Artemis (she does anal etc, but not really GFE), so it is possible she may choose who to go with.I'm sorry, definitely NOT Nadia. IMHO the girls Blover34 talking about calling themselves Penelope (Mrs. Shavehead) and Maxi (Mrs. Barbiestyle).

[Mr Ho]

I'm sorry, definitely NOT Nadia. IMHO the girls Blover34 talking about calling themselves Penelope (Mrs. Shavehead) and Maxi (Mrs. Barbiestyle).Maxi got my interest. Well if I find her, I will see if I am interested because I like Barbie kinda girl.

It is hard to find Barbi kinda girl in FKK. Last time I went to Artemis. Only one I thought I could somehow fit as Barbi type of girl is Nadia. Other than her. There were few in past, but it was always hard to find. But all of them were Barbi kinda girls with a lot of tattoos and with fake silicone tits LOL In that sense, I miss Marketa because she was not exactly Barbi, but rather toward that pretty direction, and she had no tattoo and had fine titis with no silicone.

I also like to add one more possibility of refusal. In general all the girls at FKK get along with each other, but I am also aware that girls make their own groups and some group do not interact or even do not really get along with other group, so it is possible that Blover 34 went with girl that certain group of girl do not get along with, so they refused, this is also a possibility. I have had time girls having go at me for going with different girl. I mean I was like. That is the whole point of FKK. Apparently it is not like that they fight with each other, but there are some level of tension between some group of girls. It is understandable because I mean look at environment of FKK and in case of Artemis, most of them live up stairs in dormitory kind of environment, and they spend basically 24 hours together for like few weeks or more in such environment.

[Blover34]

We'll MR Ho.

Thanks for your answer at least now.

I can relax and stop thinking I had a bad mouth smell from the garlic.

I didn't even eat.

About this girl Maxi if it's her or not.

Can't tell but if it's her I can say she's WOW.

Amazing long legs, silicon tits and tattoos but in general she.

Looks just like Barbie no better way to describe her.

But I still think that there are other girls natural ones in the club especially this girl I'm bugging you on named heaven that are much more beautiful.

Going to hit the club again in September.

Can't wait maybe I'll move the clock fast foroward.

This club is addictive.


Maxi got my interest. Well if I find her, I will see if I am interested because I like Barbie kinda girl.

It is hard to find Barbi kinda girl in FKK. Last time I went to Artemis. Only one I thought I could somehow fit as Barbi type of girl is Nadia. Other than her. There were few in past, but it was always hard to find. But all of them were Barbi kinda girls with a lot of tattoos and with fake silicone tits LOL In that sense, I miss Marketa because she was not exactly Barbi, but rather toward that pretty direction, and she had no tattoo and had fine titis with no silicone.

I also like to add one more possibility of refusal. In general all the girls at FKK get along with each other, but I am also aware that girls make their own groups and some group do not interact or even do not really get along with other group, so it is possible that Blover 34 went with girl that certain group of girl do not get along with, so they refused, this is also a possibility. I have had time girls having go at me for going with different girl. I mean I was like. That is the whole point of FKK. Apparently it is not like that they fight with each other, but there are some level of tension between some group of girls. It is understandable because I mean look at environment of FKK and in case of Artemis, most of them live up stairs in dormitory kind of environment, and they spend basically 24 hours together for like few weeks or more in such environment.===========================================

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[Member #4347]

Hi Blover,

Why don't you call the reception and ask if there is a 'Heaven' working there and where she is from because nobody seems to know her. As you told me I understand its not Heather from Romania so it would be interesting to know. You brought it up so you should find out now.

About being refused by a prostitute in Artemis I have no first hand experience. I know it happens sometimes but I believe it mostly has something to do with the overall impression girls have and the way a guy approaches her and behaves toward her. One of my favorite girls and her friend. Both German blondes. Were approached a few weeks ago by young guys who from the beginning of the conversation touched them in a way they didn't like and which seemed to show those guys just don't know how to handle a woman. You can always say its a brothel and they are prostitutes so it doesn't matter but that's would be just a stupid and ignorant perspective which will get you nowhere. Surely one girl is willing to tolerate more than another but still you can be sure many of them are making good money and if they have customers who respect them and don't destroy their pussies in the process they have no problem refusing customers on occassion. If it happens once I would not really think too much about it but if it happens a lot to you and with different girls you should try to find out what's the problem.

Its obvious that many girls have their own approach towards clients and when they go hunting. Of course some of the younger girls like men from their age group and most might women prefer young or middle aged tall athletic guys vs old fatty ones however you can be sure in the end your looks are one of the less important things. I have been with more than 70 different girls in Artemis and hundreds of others during the years and I can tell you there are far more important factors. The girls tend to have a certain kind of impression when they see you and then when you talk to them or they approach you. 5 minutes with a certain client can feel like an eternity while with another guy they happily spend much more time even if he is just an average customer from the economic point of view.

Nadia or Nadja as we spell it in German is one of my favorite girls. There are a few reports on her in this forum and I would agree with most that has been said except one guy who said she kissed which is the first time I ever heard about with her.

Its correct she is certainly not the best performer and its highly unlikely you will get some kind of full GFE or honeymoon experience with her. But I find her very gorgeous, nice to talk to, very correct and since I got to know her better you can be sure I am more than happy and I leave the room with a very big smile always. I am not into extras very much so I don't care for some of the things that may be important to others. She is certainly one of the few girls at Artemis who fit the Barbie type from my point of view.

About Penelope from Hamburg yes she is shaved on the one side but last time I saw her she was a redhead not blonde. I like her looks and I talk to her but I have never been with her. But there is a very gorgeous Romanian blonde who has a similar haircut and her name is Misha. One of the most beautiful girls at Artemis right now but most of the time you will have to approach her because she won't approach you.

Then the other girl Pharisaer mentioned who approached me together with Penelope a few weeks ago is Maxi. Like Penelope she is from Hamburg and quite new to Artemis. Its always a matter of personal tastes of course but she has nothing in common with the Barbie type. She is a small brunette and she was nice and friendly. Sorry to say that but just not spectacular to me in any sense. I would have to ask Pharisaer who is of course a well informed man about the Mrs Barbiestyle thing. There must be an explanation otherwise I will have to get my eyes examined.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Iceberg27]

Hello all,

I was in Artemis last night. I have experienced both heaven and hell there but in summary I had a great time. Kimino, Buck Rogers and Rocketboy thanks for your company and advices.

I will report back for last night.

BTW I am in artemis for tonight if anyone around just p. M or type here.

I have a lot of experience who is sharks or not through the first hand experience.

Regards.

[Kimino]

Hello all,

I was in Artemis last night. I have experienced both heaven and hell there but in summary I had a great time. Kimino, Buck Rogers and Rocketboy thanks for your company and advices.You're welcome!

I agree, great time last night. Good vibe, not excessively crowded, great lineup.

Only fooled around with some favs, so no new girls to report on my side.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Gratass65]

I have experience from FKK around Dusseldorf and Frankfurt and I was now looking forward to try the famous Artemis But I'm disappointed by Artemis. The girls were nice. But the main room was so full of smoke that I left early (I smoke my self) I was there both Thursday and Friday and both days I had to do a real good hearcleaning after to get away the smell of smoke. The other clubs I have been to have own lounge for smoking. And I feel it's works better.

As normal in clubs like this there are lots of fake boobs (silicon). Looks like 80 % ?? But I found girls that I had a good time with. I don't remember the names.

Next time I think it will be Frankfurt again.

[Mr Ho]

We'll MR Ho.

Thanks for your answer at least now.

I can relax and stop thinking I had a bad mouth smell from the garlic.I didn't even eat.

About this girl Maxi if it's her or not.Can't tell but if it's her I can say she's WOW.

Amazing long legs, silicon tits and tattoos but in general she.Looks just like Barbie no better way to describe her.

But I still think that there are other girls natural ones in the club especially this girl I'm bugging you on named heaven that are much more beautiful.

Going to hit the club again in September.Can't wait maybe I'll move the clock fast foroward. This club is addictive.You are welcome.

It is not you, so no worry, it most likely about other issues that I wrote to you before in this forum. Girls won't even able to smell your breath at the bar with all the smokes from cigarettes (which I do not enjoy.) and also they won't even able to see you properly as bar is not exactly blight room (more like Disco level blight-ness). Vice versa, I cannot even look at girls face closely at the bars that I check their face at dining hall or at the stairs where I can see girls face properly with more light LOL.

September, first half is Messe season, so many girls also the guests would be there, I will hit the club end of August for 12 days straight! I wish you good time in September at Artemis and oh yeah, fkk club is highly addictive, it is maybe good thing I do not live in Germany, I will go every two days that is for sure!

Enjoy!

[Iceberg27]

You're welcome!

I agree, great time last night. Good vibe, not excessively crowded, great lineup.

Only fooled around with some favs, so no new girls to report on my side.

Cheers.

Kimino.Kimino this night was also enjoyable. I got two girls. First was Melek and she was as great as you tell me and second one is Pamela from Poland. She is also very enjoyable. Only thing blows my mind is this Nina issue. I will tell you later.

Regards.

[Guy93]

I was there Friday and yesterday. I like the place alot. Thanks for answering my questions earlier BTW. Everything was so easy and simple.

Spent there like nine hours straight on Friday and did five girls.

Yesterday I was little tired so were there like five hours and only did two girls.

Girls I can't recommend.

Stella from Poland she just like took my money and were so hurry in bed we didn't even finish.

Kayla from Czech not so bad as Stella, but cold service.

Girls I should recommend.

Emma from Germany she was like the best girl in the club and made me feel like a king.

Amelie from Romania little older but good service indeed.

Nina from Czech did her first time at Friday after the midnight and yesterday cause she came to get me and my cock couldn't resist her. Excellent service.

Naomi very good service and my first experience with a brown girl.

Hows the place in Monday or Tuesday? I'd like to spend one more night there before I fly back to home.

[Member #4347]

Nika. I had seen this really beautiful blonde with a pair of angel wing tattoos on her back walking around and thought. WOW, that is simply stunning. She had perfect implants, an ass that was perfect and a face that was that of an angel. As I was standing there looking around the room she came up to me and started to chat. We talked about how horribly hot it was and how there were likely less girls and guys there due to the weather. I was getting a great vibe from her and the chemistry seemed to be there. She asked if I would like to go have some fun and said yes! Up we went and grabbed a room. We chatted for about 5mins about random things. She had been there 1 year or so and home was Hamburg and she would come down for 2 weeks at stretch and work and head home. Just a really sweet girl. Started the session with a nice BJ and I played with her pussy / clit while she was blowing me. I had her get on her back and played with her clit and sucked on her nipples for a good 10mins. I could see she was into it as I could see her muscles in her leg twitch involuntarily. I don't think she ever got the big O but after about 10 mins she said "fuck me now" and I started. I mounted her missionary and while pumping away she was rubbing her clit. It was quite a site to see. About about 5mins of this position we moved to doggie and oh my, what a view. I was playing with her anus while pumping away and she had no problems with that. I finished doggie style and it was simply fantastic. I was really tempted to stay another 30mins and have a second go but I had to get back to town. Nika is not to be missed. Looks. 10/10 (I would have given her a 9 due to the tatts but she was perfect otherwise) , Attitude. 10/10, Performance. 10/10.I know this quote is from a report that is one year old now but since nobody seems to have corrected the name I hope I will be allowed to do that now: I am 100% sure this wasn't Nika but Nadia / Nadja. Everything FredZee says in his report is fitting for Nadja, especially the angel wings tattoo on her back. I believe it makes sense to correct the name because then not only FredZee can find her if he gets back to Artemis but also his report can be found now when using the search function. You can find a picture of Nadja together with Jana on the website's gallery. A lot of the body had to be covered because of the tattoos but I am sure one can still recognize her. I like Nika too but when it comes to her you might have to be a shark whisperer as someone once said a few pages earlier.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Blover34]

I will be in the second half of September so maybe the club won't be 100% full.

I'm as lucky as you since I don't live in Germany if I would I think I would.

Have become homeless in a couple of years but one with a smile on his face.

[Pharisaer]

Girls I can't recommend.
Stella from Poland she just like took my money and were so hurry in bed we didn't even finish.
Kayla from Czech not so bad as Stella, but cold service.Stella speaks Polish and German as well, both fluently. IMHO she was born in Poland, but usually she claims herself a German. Member of GSG.

Kayla from Bohemia should be called Kylie.


Hows the place in Monday or Tuesday? I'd like to spend one more night there before I fly back to home.Calm. Laidback. Less girls, less customers. Tuesday maybe a little bit more calm than Monday. Enjoy your stay, regardless of whether Monday or Tuesday.

[Rocketboy0]

Well at least for RB-was with the somewhat new, tall blond Christina (RO) and brunette Debbie (DE). Both just great, curvy, new (for me), very responsive discoveries, recommended and will repeat. Christina, with glasses, a little more cerebral but a real beauty and fun. Debbie is kind of the wild girl next door, really passionate.

And breaking form, RB was there on a chilled Sunday, to take advantage of the grilled meat which was very tasty, and as Kimino would say, a dolphin day. It is striking how much quieter Sundays are but enough choices were around and minus the weekend warrior frenzy, which caused a shortage of bed sheets into Sunday.

Iceberg- still waiting on the Nina story.......

[Oxano1983]

Is there any clean but cheap hotel to sleep? I will be 2 days in Artemis ahhaaha, I hope food is ok and gym is ok so fuck, train, eat, repeat.

How far is from Tiegel, how is cheapest way to come from Tiegel to my hotel or Artemis?

I am not stingy, just want to spend money on girls. Not on expensive transportation.

Thank you

[Aceh725]

Hi,

I know the girl that you talking about, her name is Heaven, she is half Italian (she speak Italian perfectly without strange accent) and half Romanian. She is very nice and cute, no tits (I prefer girls with fake tits that girls that not have. But she has a very beautiful face so I decided to try. Anyway she usually wear glasses late in the night. I have been with her, 3 times and all the sessions were good. Great blow job and good partecipation. Suggested.

Bye


I'm almost sure her name is Heaven.

First she's not blonde and she doesn't have silicon boobs.

In fact she had small natural boobs but she's so so beautiful and has a body to die for.

I can only tell that she's a kind of girl you vision in your wet dreams.

Maybe someone will know who I talk about.

Thanks for your replay I appreciate it.

[Kimino]

Hi,

I know the girl that you talking about, her name is Heaven, she is half Italian (she speak Italian perfectly without strange accent) and half Romanian. She is very nice and cute, no tits (I prefer girls with fake tits that girls that not have. But she has a very beautiful face so I decided to try. Anyway she usually wear glasses late in the night. I have been with her, 3 times and all the sessions were good. Great blow job and good partecipation. Suggested.

ByeYou are right on. Now I remember the girl. Tall, no tits, kind of an aggressive look but nice to stay with.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1423136&viewfull=1#post1423136

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Blover34]

Kimino,

Thank you for the replay at least now I know I wasn't wrong and that there is a "heaven" In there.

I'm my opinion she's the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life we have talked but I never had a chance to go to the room with her since Someone took her for around 5 hours.

What extras does she offer. As I'll be there in September I think in going to spend.

5 days with her since I totaly can't stop thinking about her beauty.

[Mr Ho]

Is there any clean but cheap hotel to sleep? I will be 2 days in Artemis ahhaaha, I hope food is ok and gym is ok so fuck, train, eat, repeat.

How far is from Tiegel, how is cheapest way to come from Tiegel to my hotel or Artemis?

I am not stingy, just want to spend money on girls. Not on expensive transportation.

Thank youOne of Ibis is nearby, 7 to 10 minutes walking distance. There are around few other hotels near that Ibis hotel as well, but Ibis seemed most clean and ok to stay.

There has been some report that someone was attacked / robbed around the walk if you stay around that area where Ibis and other hotels are, but personally I find these area rather safe. Nothing never happened to me around there and I have been walking to Artemis to station at very odd and dark time of the day all alone looking like tourist just coming back from Artemis.

However, I recommend to stay in Charlottenberg that is only one station away from Artemis (Westkreuz) and much better hotels for around same price and more varieties of restaurants.

From Tegel, it is like 20 minutes away by car. There is train and also shuttle bus to your nearest station of your hotel, but taxi is only like around 20 euro one way, so if you have luggage I would just take taxi.

Food at artemis is hmmm eatable, but do not expect restaurant quality, gym is old, not technogym level equipment, but it is good, it has all free weight, bench press etc.

Enjoy your time man.

[Frozty]

I was at Artemis today for a one day visit. I arrived at opening time and, as usual, it was quiet. The lineup was not the best for most of my time there. I left at 6 pm. But I ended up having a nice time.

It felt like I said no to everyone in the upstairs bar early on, but I had liked the approach of a short, dark, gypsy type girl, so decided to look out for her. Our paths crossed half an hour later so I asked her name. She was Shiva from Prague. I had seen her on most of my previous visits but had not been immediately attracted to her. Today was the first time that we spoke and it was clear that she was a lot of fun, so we went to one of the rooms near the downstairs kino. We had an enjoyable hour and she got me being much more adventurous than usual. I had been put off before as she looked a little heavy. In actual fact though, I really enjoyed her body. I get the feeling that she could be pretty wild if that is what you are after.

As we left the room, she called out for Nina in the gym. I mention this because we got chatting about Nina, who wasn't there at time. When I saw Nina later I mentioned that I had met Shiva. This got quite funny as Nina asked why I only fuck all her friends, and shouted across the bar to Shiva for confirmation. She keeps better track of my sessions than me! And agreed that the last six had been members of Nina's coven (my phrase, not her's).

After Shiva, and before I had met up with Nina, I spent some time in the outside area. It was cloudy, but still a pleasant space to spend time. Few girls ventured outside though, which was a shame.

I then spent 2.5 hours with Nina; I can't resist. The session was as good as ever. I get a better response from her than any other working girl that I've been with.

I didn't really see anybody else that I fancied trying, although Heaven, if I understand the description below correctly, did stand out as a good option. I couldn't find Mila again, so that will have to wait for another day. But I went home happy.

I regret not making it an overnight trip though, as I fancied watching the football in the wellness bar.

[Frozty]

Is there any clean but cheap hotel to sleep? I stay at the Hotel Kronprinz. I can usually get a room for 60 euros, and find it very pleasant. A bit dated, but the rooms are clean and quiet (although you can hear the S-Bahn from some), the showers are good, and breakfast is excellent. It is closer to Halensee, but still less than 10 minutes walk from Artemis. Just off Ku'damm, which is a nice, safe area with some reasonable restaurants and shops.

[Pharisaer]

I couldn't find Mila again, so that will have to wait for another day. But I went home happy.Don't worry, Mila wasn't there yesterday.

[Kimino]

Don't worry, Mila wasn't there yesterday.Mila will be away for months actually. At least that's what she said.

Kimino.

[Iceberg27]

Hi all,

As I have promised I want to share my experience in Artemis for last Friday and Saturday. (13-14.06. 2014).

On Friday I have entered to the club at about 6 in the afternoon and it was crowded but not much. There are still space enough to sit and girls to fuck with. I have been with Funda (Turkish), Timea (claims Ukranian but I am sure she is Romanian.), Joanna (Half Kazakh-Half Romanian) and Mila (Latvian).

Funda and Timea is complete, %100 sharks but Joanna and Mila higly recommandable. Especially Joanna is still in my mind because she is both beautiful and warm.

Timea was promised me make a DFK in downstairs and when we were in the room she doesn't want to do it and when I complained she started to yell at me. At the moment she was on Cowgirl position on me and I asked her to finish the session. It was strange feeling that a girl is on top of you and yelling at you. Funda was not very comfortable when I hug her and behaved like a btch so both must be avoided.

On Saturday night I was expecting the place to be much much more crowded but less than Friday. I have only been with Melek (Turkish) and Pamela from Poland. I am very surprised that I read the 160 euro story about her. She was very warm and honest in the room. I doubt it's another Pamela although the descriptions points her. (tall brunette blonde at 38 years old. A little bit chubby).

Anyway as you remember I was indecisive where to choose FRA or Berlin and now I will choose FRA for the next time because when I was there for a second time; yes there were new girls but majority of the girls were same with Friday so it was a bit loss of magic.

I think FRA offers better choices like Sharks. Again to compare; I think Oase girls are less sharky than Artemis but Artemis is still a comfortable place. Food is still much much better.

I think Artemis will always have a special place in my heart because this Kino thing. I started both my good sessions with Joanna and Pamela in the downstairs Kino and it continued perfectly. I think when you catch a good chemistry in Kino and this aura continues in room. The upstairs Kino actually was my favor but this time it was always empty. It can be because of the stupid Doctor Nurse porn movie which is the most terrible one that I have watched in my entire life. And guess what; they had also played this also on Saturday.

The number of girls in Oase can be a bit higher and I must claim that line up in Oase in last month was a bit better then here. Even Samya can compete with Artemis. Lots of Silicons. I hate that. There are still 10's but after my bad experience with Timea and Melek I was over cautios who to choose.

I can't just stop myself to make comparisons. I. e. GT offers you Kino and you can have sex also there but girls there are less volunteered to ask to join you. You just idiotly sit there for hours and if you are lucly a girl come and ask you to participate. In Artemis when we were there nearly every girl in upstairs came down to Kino and asked customers to join. I like that. I think it's a free foreplay opportunity. Rosalia and the other Greek girl sit on my knees for maybe 15 minutes to convince me to go with them and I had refused and all the foreplay was free. I have just played the right way so they were not angry but I have benefited. (Yea I know I am an Ash.).

Notes:

1) Koenigshof Hotel just bullsheeted me this time so if anyone considers to stay just give up. There are very nice hotels in city center and it's just a few more stations from Artemis with S-Bahn and they are cheaper. Like Motel One and Media Hotel).

2) RE-7 express not always reliable. I was nearly miss the flight because it wasnt running on Sunday night and I don't know the reason. I had a nightmare to arrive the airport. Lots of stress.).

Regards.

[Kimino]

Funda and Timea is complete, %100 sharks but .Ciao Iceberg27, as said previously, it was fun meeting you.

Still I have to give my feedback about Timea aka Paris Hilton. I went with her a year ago and again Friday, she is Romanian. I'm not into kissing so don't know about that but with me she was absolutely fine. I had a great time, 30 min plain vanilla session. Sweet girl. I would recommend her.

Having met you personally, I know you are not saying bullshit, so it all boils down to the fact that reports on girls are worth very little. YMMV, chemistry, mood, personal taste, many factors to be weighed.

Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

It was strange feeling that a girl is on top of you and yellingSome of us call that marriage.

On the rest. Icey you know the score. It is all subjective, you got to take your time, and learn to say no before you see that dorsal fin.

On the trains. Shit happens, lots of repairs get going in warm weather. Always worth it to check the BVG website if it really matters. But while faster, it only runs once a hour, and actually that's not the usual way to get to Scheissefeld Airport. Rather the U7-Rudow bus thing or the S-45. Anyway always always the BVG website will alert you if there is a problem.

But.

We are still waiting for the Nina story.

[Rocketboy0]

It was strange feeling that a girl is on top of you and yellingSome of us call that marriage.

On the rest. Icey you know the score. It is all subjective, you got to take your time, and learn to say no before you see that dorsal fin.

On the trains. Shit happens, lots of repairs get going in warm weather. Always worth it to check the BVG website if it really matters. But while faster, it only runs once a hour, and actually that's not the usual way to get to Scheissefeld Airport. Rather the U7-Rudow bus thing or the S-45. Anyway always always the BVG website will alert you if there is a problem. And it could also alert you to the problem of not speaking Deutsch.

[Iceberg27]

Some of us call that marriage.

On the rest. Icey you know the score. It is all subjective, you got to take your time, and learn to say no before you see that dorsal fin.

On the trains. Shit happens, lots of repairs get going in warm weather. Always worth it to check the BVG website if it really matters. But while faster, it only runs once a hour, and actually that's not the usual way to get to Scheissefeld Airport. Rather the U7-Rudow bus thing or the S-45. Anyway always always the BVG website will alert you if there is a problem. And it could also alert you to the problem of not speaking Deutsch.Kimino,

I agree with you. It's very subjective. She can be good with you and be a shark to another one.

Thanks for the company and suggestions again. Melek and Mila are really nice choices. I wouldn't choose them if you didn't tell me.

Rocket,

You are funny. I will open my eyes to see "Dorsal Fins" after now.

BTW I have checked Elyssas Kino on Blysse Street but closed. Big disappointment after taking all these metro stations.

I have send Nina story to you via pm.

Regards.

[Guy93]

I was there at Monday also.

Not so many girls as a weekend but still much enough.

Many customers also were there on Monday. Maybe because beer was free of charge?

Anyway I did three girls.

Nora from Hungary.

Tina from Germany.

Lisa from Caribbean.

All of the three girls were good and I can recommend them.

The smoke in the middle floor bothers me also cause I don't smoke.

[Frozty]

Lisa from Caribbean.When I was there on Tuesday, there was a very pretty black girl present. Quite tall, and a little overweight. Does that sound like Lisa? I was tempted to try her.

Is the free beer on Monday a one-off, or something new to get the punters in on a slow day?

[Woof Woof]

I was there at Monday also.

Not so many girls as a weekend but still much enough.

Many customers also were there on Monday. Maybe because beer was free of charge?

Artemis is currently running a special during the World Cup. On days Germany plays, the beer is free and Germany played last Monday. Check the WM 2014 schedule. Tomorrow, beer is free again.

[Rocketboy0]

As luck would have it, RB finally bumped into the mythical Vegas, gone since April, back as of today for a few days. Tats, blond kind of ear length hair, DE (but actually a mix of Caucasus and Greek) tall, thin, massive mams, engineered but super nice, maybe mid-late 20s. Very pretty, one of the most striking girls there in IMHO. Quite reserved at the bar, almost disinterested. But we had a 30 second chat and RB knew. Seriously responsive, passionate, funny, and warm.

YMMV, but one of the best ever. EVER. My faith in humanity restored.

[Ariss]

Stella speaks Polish and German as well, both fluently. IMHO she was born in Poland, but usually she claims herself a German. Member of GSG.What is GSG?

[Mr Ho]

In down stairs of Artemis, by the indoor swimming pool. There are 3 saunas right.

One is Hamann (weak one) where you can get Turkish bath with one of the massage guy.

Another one is normal dry sauna which is next to the shower.

And there is another dry sauna in between. My question is about this Sauna. Is this sauna Infra red sauna?

If someone remember if that sauna is infra red sauna or not, please let me know.

[Kimino]

As luck would have it, RB finally bumped into the mythical Vegas, gone since April, back as of today for a few days. Tats, blond kind of ear length hair, DE (but actually a mix of Caucasus and Greek) tall, thin, massive mams, engineered but super nice, maybe mid-late 20s. Very pretty, one of the most striking girls there in IMHO. Quite reserved at the bar, almost disinterested. But we had a 30 second chat and RB knew. Seriously responsive, passionate, funny, and warm.

YMMV, but one of the best ever. EVER. My faith in humanity restored.Wow. My kind? Probably never saw her. You lucky berliners.

Ciao.

Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

Wow. My kind? Probably never saw her. You lucky berliners.Ciao.Kimino.Rarely there or sighted, like the Yeti or Loch Ness Nellie. Even had some fishnet wrap. You would have had a heart attack.

[Guy93]

When I was there on Tuesday, there was a very pretty black girl present. Quite tall, and a little overweight. Does that sound like Lisa? I was tempted to try her.

Is the free beer on Monday a one-off, or something new to get the punters in on a slow day?She's probably not Lisa. Lisa's not that tall.

Maybe you meant that tall black girl who was there at Saturday and Monday yes. I had a little chat with her but cannot remember her name. Never actually did her so maybe someone else can say about her.

Don't know about the beer thing. I don't drink beer.

[Pharisaer]

What is GSG?I've learned it here: German Sofa Group.


If someone remember if that sauna is infra red sauna or not, please let me know.AFAIK no IR sauna in Artemis. The one between Hamam and the showers is just another cold sauna (approx 140 F or 60 C). They call it "biological".

[Oxano1983]

Possible to say some good hotel for stay near Artemis? Clean and cheap please, I would come to Berlin just because of sex tourism.

Is it far from Artemis Erlebnis Wohnung?

Thank you

[Mr Ho]

I've learned it here: German Sofa Group.

AFAIK no IR sauna in Artemis. The one between Hamam and the showers is just another cold sauna (approx 140 F or 60 C). They call it "biological".Thank you very much Pharisaer.

Yes I remember it mentioned BIO above artemis sauna so I always wondered what BIO means for sauna. Well I never take sauna between session and always went for steam room in new wing because I always thought sauna is not good if you do many session per day (I do about 5 to 7 sessions), so I avoided dry sauna, but I recently read article on internet that infra red sauna is good before sex, so I thought the one between might be IR sauna, so I just wanted to know. But maybe low temp sauna maybe good for sex as well, I got to research that now.

Thanks again!

[Rocketboy0]

Possible to say some good hotel for stay near Artemis? Clean and cheap please, Is it far from Artemis Erlebnis Wohnung?Please read the f**king forum (RTFF) - all this has been discussed 1000 times, as recently as this past month. Use search engine, window top right here-even for "hotel". Artemis and Erlebnis are 2 different places and have their own threads. Hotel recommendations easily found in the forum or use well known booking or hotel dot com as prices will vary by your dates. Everything in Berlin fairly close by so distance at least in West / Mitte not such an issue.

[Rocketboy0]

Please read the f**king forum (RTFF) - all this has been discussed 1000 times, as recently as this past month. In fact 2 people answered directly your same question (that you posted already last week), on 17 June in this thread-just look there. Did you not read this?

Seriously, time to start those meds.

[Coolsree]

Timea was promised me make a DFK in downstairs and when we were in the room she doesn't want to do it and when I complained she started to yell at me. At the moment she was on Cowgirl position on me and I asked her to finish the session. It was strange feeling that a girl is on top of you and yelling at you. Funda was not very comfortable when I hug her and behaved like a btch so both must be avoided.Had a similar experience last year when I was there. There was a German girl who started yelling in the middle of the act, just because I asked her to change the position! I was too late to realise that I shouldn't have told, it was my first time visit to Artemis.

[DethManRulz]

Had a similar experience last year when I was there. There was a German girl who started yelling in the middle of the act, just because I asked her to change the position! I was too late to realise that I shouldn't have told, it was my first time visit to Artemis.What do you mean? You shouldn't have asked to switch positions? That seems silly.

[Mr Ho]

I do not know if I can say I went to Artemis a lot of times, but I do make at least one or two set of trips to Artemis and each set of trip consist of 12 consecutive day visits to Artemis everyday, and I do about 5 to 7 session per day (my budget is 500 euro per day just on girls), and I have been to Artemis for 6 years, so I do know my way around the club more or less even though I do not live in Berlin.

But I never had any bad experience with girls at Artemis and definitely not some girl shouting at me.

I have experience of mongering around the globe from USA, different countries in Europe, many eastern European countries, Japan, Philippines, Thailand, India and so on. I would say prostitutes (if I may call girls this) at Artemis or most major German FKK are the best quality.

Only thing that could possibly beat Artemis is high class escort, but you do get these girls at Artemis also for cheaper price or in other major FKK clubs and at Artemis you can see and examine who you go with. I never had major issues with girls at Artemis.

Yes, there are girls who do not DFK or try to charge extra for it, but for other things they are quite liberal as long as you do not treat them disrespectfully or do them very hard.

So beside some up sell girls, it is quite surprising to read there are girls who shout if you just ask them to change position. I change position few times and I never got negative reply for that.

Just DFK issues has been long discussed here and there, but simply there are not much solutions to it and I blame this movie by richard gere "pretty woman" for spreading this no kiss trend on some of prostitutes.

Anyways, I was not in the room so I don't know what happened but normally if you treat girls with respect at artemis even some let say colder girls there will open up, with my example when I first met German Ivy she treated me rather coldly, but after few sessions she opened up and she begin to act like cute teen girl who I can negotiate what we can do I must admit, I rather have positive feeling on prostitutes at artemis or any other major FKK clubs.

[Bearsk]

Sorry that should be relieved.


As luck would have it, RB finally bumped into the mythical Vegas, gone since April, back as of today for a few days. Tats, blond kind of ear length hair, DE (but actually a mix of Caucasus and Greek) tall, thin, massive mams, engineered but super nice, maybe mid-late 20s. Very pretty, one of the most striking girls there in IMHO. Quite reserved at the bar, almost disinterested. But we had a 30 second chat and RB knew. Seriously responsive, passionate, funny, and warm.

YMMV, but one of the best ever. EVER. My faith in humanity restored.

[Member #4347]

As luck would have it, RB finally bumped into the mythical Vegas, gone since April, back as of today for a few days. Tats, blond kind of ear length hair, DE (but actually a mix of Caucasus and Greek) tall, thin, massive mams, engineered but super nice, maybe mid-late 20s. Very pretty, one of the most striking girls there in IMHO. Quite reserved at the bar, almost disinterested. But we had a 30 second chat and RB knew. Seriously responsive, passionate, funny, and warm.

YMMV, but one of the best ever. EVER. My faith in humanity restored.Hi RB,

About Vegas I couldn't agree more. I have been with her 3 or 4 times and and to me she was just perfect from the beginning. She might be in her early thirties but to me it doesn't matter because she is not only great looking but her performance is far above average. Hearing or reading about what others told me she seems to deliver always. She seems strong yet relaxed and when we meet she looks at me 'mit einem wissenden Laecheln' as we say in German which might translate as 'with a knowing smile'. It doesn't feel arrogant or superior but more like she is ready to accept a challenge. And that I like a lot.

[Rocketboy0]

Sorry that should be relieved.Actually it was relived again yesterday. Not a fluke- she rocks. Too bad she won't be there long. Does the Fkk DE CH OS NL circuit rally. Really recommended. Buckle your seat belt.

[DE212]

Visiting Berlin as part of a European trip. Stumbled on this page. For better or worse!

Two quick questions for the vets. Are there condoms on sight? Silly question but important. And are the sessions for the allotted times or until you finish? If you pay for an hour, lets say, but get excited and finish after 10 minutes. Can you relax a little and goo again or will the girl walk you out for payment?

Thanks in advance! Looking forward to some serious stress relief.

[UltraHappy]

Visiting Berlin as part of a European trip. Stumbled on this page. For better or worse!

Two quick questions for the vets. Are there condoms on sight? Silly question but important. And are the sessions for the allotted times or until you finish? If you pay for an hour, lets say, but get excited and finish after 10 minutes. Can you relax a little and goo again or will the girl walk you out for payment?

Thanks in advance! Looking forward to some serious stress relief.I don't know what you mean by "condoms on sight. " The condom goes on before and during sex. Blow jobs are 99.9% uncovered unless you request uncovered.

You pay for the time, not for shots per session. That being said, the general custom is that you only get one finish per half hour. If you want another finish in the same half hour, that's generally (although not always) another 50.

Cautionary note: If you let the girl know up front that you only want a half hour and you finish 15 minutes into the session, don't be surprised if the girl is expecting to leave shortly after you finish. In any case, if you haven't telegraphed how long you intend to stay in the room, then if you finish at the 10 minute mark and then stay another 19 minutes, you only owe 50 Euros for the 29 minutes you spent in the room.

So, by way of example, it is perfectly acceptable to do blowjob for 6 minutes, do sex for 14 minutes, cum, and then just cuddle or get a hand job for 8 more minutes after you've already cum. Lots of people do this (although I am often doing 1, 2, or 3 hour sessions, or even in some cases, discounted 10 hour sessions).

If you are always looking at your watch to make sure you are eeking out each and every single one of your 30 minutes for your 50 Euros though, this may earn you a bad reputation. If you do want to maximize your time this way, you should at least endeavor to be very discreet about it.

[DE212]

I don't know what you mean by "condoms on sight. " The condom goes on before and during sex. Blow jobs are 99.9% uncovered unless you request uncovered.Thanks for the quick response. I just meant do I have to bring my own or do they have for sale there? Hah.

[UltraHappy]

Thanks for the quick response. I just meant do I have to bring my own or do they have for sale there? Hah.The girls have them. But you can bring your own preferred brand if you prefer. Just beware that some girls may be distrustful of your brand and may insist on their own brand if your brand looks odd to them for whatever reason. Many FKKs sell condoms in bulk to the girls. For example, Oase sells 20 at a time for 5 Euros to the girls. You could buy these yourself from the clubs in bulk, but I don't know why you would want to buy the usual shitty Londons.

I happen to bring my own condoms with me because I prefer the fit of mine compared to the Londons. The Londons tend to pinch me at the base after long, extended periods of "activity. ".

You will probably be fine with the girl-provided condoms. But if you engage in a lot of FKK visits, you may want to try a few different brands to find the one that works best for you. Just beware that ill-fitting condoms can drastically increase the incidence of condom breakage and slippage, so be careful when experimenting.

[Member #4347]

I don't know what you mean by "condoms on sight. " The condom goes on before and during sex. Blow jobs are 99.9% uncovered unless you request uncovered.

You pay for the time, not for shots per session. That being said, the general custom is that you only get one finish per half hour. If you want another finish in the same half hour, that's generally (although not always) another 50.

Cautionary note: If you let the girl know up front that you only want a half hour and you finish 15 minutes into the session, don't be surprised if the girl is expecting to leave shortly after you finish. In any case, if you haven't telegraphed how long you intend to stay in the room, then if you finish at the 10 minute mark and then stay another 19 minutes, you only owe 50 Euros for the 29 minutes you spent in the room.

So, by way of example, it is perfectly acceptable to do blowjob for 6 minutes, do sex for 14 minutes, cum, and then just cuddle or get a hand job for 8 more minutes after you've already cum. Lots of people do this (although I am often doing 1, 2, or 3 hour sessions, or even in some cases, discounted 10 hour sessions).

If you are always looking at your watch to make sure you are eeking out each and every single one of your 30 minutes for your 50 Euros though, this may earn you a bad reputation. If you do want to maximize your time this way, you should at least endeavor to be very discreet about it.Sorry to correct you UltraHappy but its 60 Euro not 50 for 30 minutes of basic service. Other than that, I believe you are correct and it seems to be good advice.

In the afternoon when its usually less busy its more likely the girl will be more relaxed with you and not trying to leave immediately after you have cum. But of course as most of our advice is highly subjective it depends on moods, sympathy, chemistry. If you are not only a clean and respectful man and if you verbally or non verbally are able to communicate that you are a man who knows what he wants and that you will come back now and then be sure she will get the message and will treat you accordingly.

[Lookoflove7]

Summer + World Cup + Artemis – bad weather in Berlin 61516;61516;.

It's summer but not in Berlin (very cold and no sun until Sunday).

Great football game, Germany vs Ghana on Saturday night was fun to watch at Artemis, good atmosphere even though Germany didn't win against Ghana .

Line up at Artemis this week end was very poor. No new girls, 90% of girls fuckable, not all my favorites were there except Brigitta with whom I seasoned four times during all week end.

I just missed the Polish girls that used to come for the week end. None of them this week-end!

Brigitta from Hungary: blond (with new haircut more modern style), incredible body: thin, big tits (fake), nice face, girly, white socks, and tattoos (new one on her belly). She is going back to Hungary this week. So you will not see her from now (but she'll be back for sure! She immediately recognizes me when I just arrive. She remembers all our last meetings, so I was just surprised. Nothing to say I would go with her. Incredible sex for all time. She makes me hard immediately and we get to heaven together on first session and so on.

I didn't look for other girls this week-end except Brigitta as I was at ease with her. That's was just great sex simply and good time.

On Monday, I went back to Artemis and session with Lulu (from Austria) and Zoe (from Germany). Good girls but the feeling was not here. Something was missing (Brigitta was not there on Monday). Anyway I had a good time Berlin as always!

LOL7.

[RempNobbes]

Just to say. Today I visited Artemis after a short break. The football world champion ship goes on, today with an important game for Italy. They lost and have to go home. But that does not influence the activities of any Italians at Artemis as you can imagine. The Hungarian team now is close to be all set with the arrival of Anetta. Birgitta has depart. I made a fantastic two sessions with Anetta. Great powerful blue eyed half blond girl. The line up for a Tuesday was low at these time. Might have to do with the world champion chip. Also Anetta will leave around mid July. What means the Hungarian team onside is decreasing to the start of summer season. Hope to be back soon. Cheers from RM.

[ChuckZ]

I probably should post on another forum, but it is Artemis related. Went once to Artemis last year. First time at FKK club. Great time, no bad experiences. Planning a second trip fall this year. But, thinking, should I venture out elsewhere. I've heard lots about oasis (couldn't find a forum for just oasis) or Mainhatten (sp?) Will these places in frankfurt be different or better to visit? I hear the city itself nothing like Berlin. So play it safe, stick with Artemis. Or venture into Frankfurt. If this conversation needs to go somewhere else, let me know.

Thanks

[Nedsprofhlp]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the insight provided by this forum. I was at Artemis 2 years ago for the first time and loved it. Been trying to get back to Berlin ever since. Just in tomorrow for 1 day. If anyone will be there, please let me how; would love to say Hi. (Too bad I cannot buy you a beer in the club).

CheckZ, most of the guys on the forum are way more knowledgeable than me, but I did used to go to Frankfurt every year and hit the Palace (never had a car, so did not make it further out). I would say I prefer Artemis. But we'll see how it goes tomorrow.

[AgentNash]

First time posting but I have been several times at Artemis.

Although I have been in several FKKs in Frankfurt area I mostly like Artemis (more pornstar hardcore kinda look).

In the several times I have been in Artemis I have been with Alisha (one of the best BJ ever), Brigitta (Great body / fuck), Ella (Russian MILF, superb service), Evalyn (now Jolien, Hungarian MILF), lulu (great body), Solidad (She makes me laugh), Nicole (very passionate), the famous Nina, and a few more I can't remember.

I will be in artemis again in the end of July, I want to try some of the Spanish team, any recommendation?

There are 2 Spanish blonds that I remember, one with huge tits and the other blond with great body, any comments?

TIA

[Neutron Flux]

I probably should post on another forum, but it is Artemis related. Went once to Artemis last year. First time at FKK club. Great time, no bad experiences. Planning a second trip fall this year. But, thinking, should I venture out elsewhere. I've heard lots about oasis (couldn't find a forum for just oasis) or Mainhatten (sp?) Will these places in frankfurt be different or better to visit? I hear the city itself nothing like Berlin. So play it safe, stick with Artemis. Or venture into Frankfurt. If this conversation needs to go somewhere else, let me know.

ThanksIts good you asked this since it has not been discussed like a quadrillion times already and there is usually a great concensus about it. I've also heard about a mythical oasis near Frankfurt and a Mainhattan club but their details and threads do seem extremely difficult to locate, particularly in this forum. Therefore they might not even exist, its probably just old mans stories.

[Rocketboy0]

Its good you asked this since it has not been discussed like a quadrillion times already and there is usually a great concensus about it. I've also heard about a mythical oasis near Frankfurt and a Mainhattan club but their details and threads do seem extremely difficult to locate, particularly in this forum. Therefore they might not even exist, its probably just old mans stories.Yes very difficult to find. Unless you look here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?275-Germany-FKK-Clubs.

What is that search thing on the interweb ..???

Would take Berlin over others esp with option to mix it up with the private flats and nicer cheaper city to hang in for a few days. For the quadrillionth time.

[ChuckZ]

Would take Berlin over others esp with option to mix it up with the private flats and nicer cheaper city to hang in for a few days. For the quadrillionth time.Obviously, a senior member I am not (yet). Its a bumpy road to get there and you got to take the hits like a man. Just call me quadrillionth-and-one.

Sometimes you already know the answer and you just want people to convince you are right. It was always Artemis. Love Berlin. Questions / reports will get better in time. Hope to meet the legends someday.

Chuckz out.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Is it far from Artemis Erlebnis Wohnung?

Thank youIt's far, it's one end of the city to the other. Takes about 45-60 with train.

[Piper145]

I will be visiting Artemis on Sunday, 29th, for the first time. Actually it is my first time to any sauna club. My primary goal is to meet Jenna, she is really my type, and maybe watch some of the world cup. Do they have all the games on there? Honestly I'm a little excited and nervous for the visit. Any first timer suggestions?

If anyone wants to meet up, let me know.

[Member #4347]

From Artemis to Erlebniswohnung its not close but its not that far neither, the whole trip by S-Bahn circle line S41/ S42 and then just one stop via subway you-Bahn. Its a 30 minutes ride altogether. I know Nile has been there a lot of times. However I do live in Berlin and I am very sure about what I am saying.

Sorry for saying that but I don't understand why there seem to be so many questions here you can easily find out via search engines. I am always ready to help and to respond to questions as are others but sometimes I do believe people should at least take a few moments to use the search function or a search engine or look at the Artemis website or whatever. At least for me personally I think we should focus much more on actual reports and first hand information.

[Oxano1983]

Price is not 60? I read under it is 50? They changed? 30 min.

[Mr Ho]

Price is not 60? I read under it is 50? They changed? 30 min.I doubt if Artemis would change the prices. From 60 to 50 Euro, did someone wrote that here? I just checked below, but I missed out on it. I do not think they lowered price. They might increase the price at one point, but not lower I think.

Comparison to where I come from and prices I usually pay for brothel type place or related activity, for me I find Artemis pricing reasonable and if I do just 30 min session I even find Artemis pricing very cheap. I mean I was shocked to find out the kind prices first time I went to german fkk 5 or 6 years ago (since then I am gladly hooked and addicted FKK).

However, I do sometimes wonder why Artemis charge more than other major FKK in Germany, entrance is more than other places and also the session is 10 euro more. If I see big quality difference in facility or girls or their service, it is different story, but artemis is as similar as other German major. So I wonder why they raised the price. Also I note that Berlin real estate is not like it is more expensive than other part of big German cities.

Is it because Artemis is only big FKK in town? Maybe that is the reason. I would at least hope that Artemis keep their service level of girls like in Globe Zurich where all girls have to kiss clients and manager come and ask you how the service was with girl in the room after your session if Artemis keep the price higher than other major FKK which I find same as Artemis in aspect of service, girls quality and till new wing opened in Artemis. Facility was even better with other FKK like out door sex and all that, well now you cannot still have outdoor sex in Artemis.

In conclusion, I do not have complain for Artemis though, it is just that since someone mentioned about pricing, I just wondered why Artemis charges more than other FKK that are same more or less. Maybe as I mentioned only major FKK in town is the only reason I could think of. I do not mind paying more than other FKK but I like to see what the differences. If they cannot do it with girls service or level, or facility, then how about food? Can't they improve food a bit more? Like they open pasta stand, or fresh pizza corner or something. I got no complain about food but food sometimes can get bit. Boring specially when I goto artemis trip, I go 12 day consecutive days to there, so I eat dinner there. So. Food I think they can improve for extra that we have to pay. Girls service differ and they are dealing with human so I think it is out of management control, at least hard to control I think and like in all FKK , some girl are good some are not as good, so some you win some you lose I guess.

[Astonmartin]

However, I do sometimes wonder why Artemis charge more than other major FKK in Germany, entrance is more than other places and also the session is 10 euro more. If I see big quality difference in facility or girls or their service, it is different story, but artemis is as similar as other German major. So I wonder why they raised the price. Also I note that Berlin real estate is not like it is more expensive than other part of big German cities.I asked the same question to girls and to the reception. Then answer was Berlin's being the most expensive city in Germany. (What about Munchen? I think the real answer is demand is high and we pay it. Microeconomics 101. Demand & supply. We strive for lower prices and they try to maximize profit.

[Oxano1983]

I agree, but I read somewhere over net about pricing maybe it was for extras, so sorry if I made you understood me wrong!

But your opinion was correct. I agree 100% with you, I was not in Artemis yet but they are only and like in Graz also, one FFK they make rules.

In your opionion what is best and biggest FFK in Germany?

Lots of people speak about Oase (Frankfurt) there are prices 50€ I think. Please give more advices, I want to travel to best ffk for this summer it will be my vacation because I live on see so I want to see some good pussy.

[Mr Ho]

I agree, but I read somewhere over net about pricing maybe it was for extras, so sorry if I made you understood me wrong!

But your opinion was correct. I agree 100% with you, I was not in Artemis yet but they are only and like in Graz also, one FFK they make rules.

In your opionion what is best and biggest FFK in Germany?

Lots of people speak about Oase (Frankfurt) there are prices 50 I think. Please give more advices, I want to travel to best ffk for this summer it will be my vacation because I live on see so I want to see some good pussy.I am not too sure, if I am the right person to ask for German FKK, my experience with German FKK is 5 or 6 years. I go to Germany just for FKK once or two times a years. Each trip is 12 days each and during that 12 days, I go every single day to FKK from few hours after from opening hour of FKK and till about around Mid-night or latest 2 AM. So when I go to my usual set trip of 12 consecutive days fkk-ing I go very intensely and I do not care less how much I spend as long as girls are up to my desires of the day.

I have been to Oase, Palace, Goldentime and Artemis (few others like globe and zeus in switzerland, but I leave that our as you talking germany here).

I like Oase for outdoor sex during summer. Mixture of all kind and facility was good, but not winter season to visit type fkk. A lot of girls. Mixture of all girls but more non pro looking girls.

Palace has alot of up sell, but I must admit that quite alot of best session I had was with up sell girls, there is no need to agree to up sell, and most of time I do not agree, but I am just saying my own experience, some of up sell girls has been the most intense performer if I make sure what they will do to me before agreeing to up sell. Alot of sillicones. A lot of pro girls with sillicones and tattoos, but some are real good looks, but with bit of plastic.

Goldentime I only went two days, but girls were young and good for my teeny type taste with natural body. I like teeny type, non pro looking girls. But it got so crowded with clients aroud 8 PM.

Finally, Artemis. I find the club nice because artemis is first fkk I went to. I prefer non pro looking girls, and in artemis you do find, but there are more girls with tattoos and siliconnes, still I like the club mainly because it was my first experience and also easy access and most importantly the city Berlin is nice. And with this higher price than other clubs I am really hoping that more good looking, good service providers will come to Artemis. But is price strategy of artemis working on quality enhancing? I don't know. Come on Artemis!

However, if you goto forum Lounge and chat, there are so many people with more experience than me with German FKK discussing about which one is best fkk in Germany.

[Mr Ho]

I asked the same question to girls and to the reception. Then answer was Berlin's being the most expensive city in Germany. (What about Munchen? I think the real answer is demand is high and we pay it. Microeconomics 101. Demand & supply. We strive for lower prices and they try to maximize profit.I got the girls answer, but I hope management answer would be something like: We raise price a bit than other clubs to attract better looking girls who are willing to better service during sexual session in the rooms. And also to provide better quality food and facilities.

I love Artemis, but I do not see any or at least much difference in food, facility or service or looks of the girls. It would be nice if they work on attracting more nice girls by price difference appeals.

Anyways I should not get too demanding as it is still cheap pricing for my demands and until I found German FKK about 5 or 6 years ago, began with Artemis, I use to spend insane prices for these type of activities.

So my gratitude to Artemis and other German FKK!

[Delta Indigo]

When I was in Artemis recently, I was surprised by the number of girls who offered anal as an extra. In Goldentime, Vienna, only something like 25% of girls would at most, at Artemis I felt like it was an option with 80% of girls.

Is in similar in the Hesse FKKs as well, like Oase, Palace, Mainhatten and Sharks?

[Mr Ho]

When I was in Artemis recently, I was surprised by the number of girls who offered anal as an extra. In Goldentime, Vienna, only something like 25% of girls would at most, at Artemis I felt like it was an option with 80% of girls.

Is in similar in the Hesse FKKs as well, like Oase, Palace, Mainhatten and Sharks?Well one thing I know about Artemis is that girls who works at Artemis has to have some experience of working in other brothel before begin to work at Artemis, so that means the girls are already broke in mentally which is process all working girls go through when they began prostituting, so I would imagine offering anal sex is the decision that they make toward final phase, so I guess Artemis being the FKK for experienced girl, ratio for anal sex is higher? Since I like more not experienced girls. What am I doing in Artemis every year?

Well I find palace similar to Artemis for type of girls you find at Palace (more pro looking girls), but I experienced more upsell in Palace than Artemis. There are not as much up sell in Artemis as Palace but more than Goldentime and Oase with my personal experience.

I like doing anal at FKK than doing anal with normal girls as FKK girls can take some hard anal. I mean sometimes, girls ask me to do their ass harder, I am not sure if I should for her well being, but it is incredible what these girls anal can take. These type of activity are not possible or rare with normal girls. One of the reason why I am hooked to FKK-ing.

[Hessen Bub]

When I was in Artemis recently, I was surprised by the number of girls who offered anal as an extra. In Goldentime, Vienna, only something like 25% of girls would at most, at Artemis I felt like it was an option with 80% of girls.

Is in similar in the Hesse FKKs as well, like Oase, Palace, Mainhatten and Sharks?Standard price for anal in NRW is 50 EUR. In Artemis and Hessen it is 100 EUR. That could explain why more girls are offering their asses.

HB.