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ZimmerBaby
06-10-15, 14:23
Correct. Did you zimmer her?This music actually describes the session far better than words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53lfXb73z3c
2 hours in paradise dear friends. The ambience was inspired by Paulo Coelho, the perfect body and the flirty, honest, funny and lovely girl. The lovemaking was as smooth as Bayern Munichs attacking football. Her pussy so soft, just as the art of a Japanese sushi master. Before CIM, I was wondering if she is the one who could unite and create peace in the Middle East. The German flower.
Sadly YMMV.
Been to Arte one day after the UCL final, still very busy with lineups at the entrance. Finally managed to get in and right away wanted to start offloading through a BJ, settled with that Petite Spanish girl. Once we were in the room and since I like to play it safe I asked for a CBJ. She directly started questioning my health and whether I am suffering from any decease otherwise how come I am asking for a CBJ? I calmed her down, assured her that I am very much healthy and the session progressed very well. I admit that I am new to Artemis and FKK scene in general but is it really wanting to be protected all the time is something unusual for such places?
I've been to Artemis a few times but never found the way to the roof garden you see on the 360 tour on the website? It looks like you enter it from the top floor, but is it only possible with a girl? I'm interested in some outside fun, is that allowed in the roof garden? Looks more like an sun bath area.AFAIK roof garden isn't available for guests anymore, unfortunately.
Tommie1984
06-10-15, 21:34
Planning another visit over the next couple of weeks. Anyone got any recommendations for mixed race or ebony girls working in Artemis at moment?
Been to Arte one day after the UCL final, still very busy with lineups at the entrance. Finally managed to get in and right away wanted to start offloading through a BJ, settled with that Petite Spanish girl. Once we were in the room and since I like to play it safe I asked for a CBJ. She directly started questioning my health and whether I am suffering from any decease otherwise how come I am asking for a CBJ? I calmed her down, assured her that I am very much healthy and the session progressed very well. I admit that I am new to Artemis and FKK scene in general but is it really wanting to be protected all the time is something unusual for such places?I think you imply to her that she have disease.
Member #4347
06-11-15, 11:51
I believe we don't have to go into too much detail about STD issues in this thread since it has already been discussed at great length and if neccessary it can be done in another thread.
Of course there is always a possibility to contract something nobody really wants to have. However we all know there is physician at Artemis and the women are regularly tested.
ExtraCu99 it is your right to ask for a covered BJ and the kind of conversation you seemed to have with that girl just sounds a little stupid to me from the girls part.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
Been to Arte one day after the UCL final, still very busy with lineups at the entrance. Finally managed to get in and right away wanted to start offloading through a BJ, settled with that Petite Spanish girl. Once we were in the room and since I like to play it safe I asked for a CBJ. She directly started questioning my health and whether I am suffering from any decease otherwise how come I am asking for a CBJ? I calmed her down, assured her that I am very much healthy and the session progressed very well. I admit that I am new to Artemis and FKK scene in general but is it really wanting to be protected all the time is something unusual for such places?Never been to Artémis, but you are right if you want to be very safe to ask for BJ with condom, but then also better not to kiss nor provide DATY and look carefully about herpes, your girl could be surprised because most of men ask for BBBJ, CIM, some ask for swallowing and also sex without condom, some men fuck 40 girls in AO in a week.
I am going to the big A next week with two friends. I read on their website that they will have a BBQ if the weather permits it on Wednesday, but then again it is dessous tag so I am hesitating. Is Thursday a better choice?
I am going to the big A next week with two friends. I read on their website that they will have a BBQ if the weather permits it on Wednesday, but then again it is dessous tag so I am hesitating. Is Thursday a better choice?It depends. IMHO the BBQ isn't worth to align your decision on. If you prefer a greater selection of girls and to watch them mainly naked, you'd choose Thursday.
It depends. IMHO the BBQ isn't worth to align your decision on. If you prefer a greater selection of girls and to watch them mainly naked, you'd choose Thursday.Is it Saturday night good choice? I will take my friend to Artemis on Saturday and do not want him disappointed.
RempNobbes
06-13-15, 16:38
It depends. IMHO the BBQ isn't worth to align your decision on. If you prefer a greater selection of girls and to watch them mainly naked, you'd choose Thursday.Weekends are in general every time good. You might not go, when a big trade fair is open or like a special event is going on like champions league weekend. It is very very crowded and you even might have to wait an hour to come into the club. That might be the case, like I heard, on that Saturday when Barcelona won the champions league. All Spanish and Italian fans tried to come into the club. Later evening they had to wait long time to enter the club. They let 5 people go out and new 5 people come in. Line up very steady over the opening hours with round about 120 and more girls. And that until 5 am on a Sunday morning. You could imagine what was going on inside the club. That is what I heard. Can anybody confirm? But, as I said. That are only worst cases and not so often per year. Luckily for us FKK club lovers from Germany. We are able to choose our schedules and mind that kind of overcrowded places. But who likes it, why not. Cheers RM.
Is it Saturday night good choice? I will take my friend to Artemis on Saturday and do not want him disappointed.Of course. Saturday night is a good choice, too. Maybe the busiest night of the week. Sometimes crowded, but you may exptect the widest variety of choices, concerning the girls. - Please see posting no. 7764 in addition. Next event of importance: Fashion Week, July, 06 - July, 10.
Will be in Artemis this week. Wondered if any of the regulars at A could list some of the best girls at present?
It's been a while since anyone did a bit of a list of the girls with good service and looks, those with good looks but poor service etc.
Any guidance would be appreciated now that the mayhem after the Champions League and parties have passed.
Marlboro Red
06-15-15, 22:02
I am going to the big A next week with two friends. I read on their website that they will have a BBQ if the weather permits it on Wednesday, but then again it is dessous tag so I am hesitating. Is Thursday a better choice?I like Wednesday as it is Lingerie night. I like a bit of mystery.
Member #4347
06-17-15, 11:29
About PayForIts question and more.
We all know this is a highly subjective question and as someone who had nearly 100 different women at Artemis only (not to speak about gangbang parties, other brothels, escorts etc.) I can only be blunt and say: Try to forget these nerdy lists and statistics.
In my experience, there are three types of girls when it comes to service and the overall experience:
First the ones who nearly ALWAYS deliver, they are professional in a positive sense and at such a high level that they can perfectly adapt to each and every customer. They are few in numbers.
Second the ones who nearly NEVER deliver, they still might be decent human beings but they are not capable or not willing to give anything back to their guests and they are most certainly doing the wrong job. They are too not many in numbers.
Third the ones whose service may vary a lot depending on multiple factors such as their mood, their experience, age and looks and figure and personality and ethnicity and. Whatever of the individual guest, the amount of cash their earn from that guest and, and. And. Those are the vast majority of women.
Thats why many here are right to say 'YMMV' about a lot of their experiences.
So about the 'first class' women who I know personally and I also read a lot of reports and heard personal stories from friends who have been very positive just a few names: Jenna, Fatima, Vegas, Daisy, Chayenne, Nina (not available anymore), etc. Just to give a few examples.
At least Jenna and Chayenne are there. Also speaking about other women I personally like a lot but YMMV there is German Turkish Aylin, German Xenia, German Loira, German Nadja, Romanian Clara there right now.
In addition I have recently seen Asian Suna, Bulgarian Carrie, Romanian Amalia as well as the Germans Penelope, Madleine, Alexis, Tina and many more.
Hope that helps a bit.
Diplomat.
About PayForIts question and more.
We all know this is a highly subjective question and as someone who had nearly 100 different women at Artemis only (not to speak about gangbang parties, other brothels, escorts etc.) I can only be blunt and say: Try to forget these nerdy lists and statistics.
In my experience, there are three types of girls when it comes to service and the overall experience:
First the ones who nearly ALWAYS deliver, they are professional in a positive sense and at such a high level that they can perfectly adapt to each and every customer. They are few in numbers.
Second the ones who nearly NEVER deliver, they still might be decent human beings but they are not capable or not willing to give anything back to their guests and they are most certainly doing the wrong job. They are too not many in numbers.
Third the ones whose service may vary a lot depending on multiple factors such as their mood, their experience, age and looks and figure and personality and ethnicity and. Whatever of the individual guest, the amount of cash their earn from that guest and, and. And. Those are the vast majority of women.
Thats why many here are right to say 'YMMV' about a lot of their experiences.
So about the 'first class' women who I know personally and I also read a lot of reports and heard personal stories from friends who have been very positive just a few names: Jenna, Fatima, Vegas, Daisy, Chayenne, Nina (not available anymore), etc. Just to give a few examples.
At least Jenna and Chayenne are there. Also speaking about other women I personally like a lot but YMMV there is German Turkish Aylin, German Xenia, German Loira, German Nadja, Romanian Clara there right now.
In addition I have recently seen Asian Suna, Bulgarian Carrie, Romanian Amalia as well as the Germans Penelope, Madleine, Alexis, Tina and many more.
Hope that helps a bit.
Diplomat.This is really helpful so many thanks. I agree that this is all subjective. But I"ve been stung before ignoring posts about girls with bad attitude when I've just been unable to ingore a sexy girl. So to get some experienced views / comments like this is very helpful indeed. I"m there later tonight and tomorrow so hopefully I'll meet some of the ladies you have recommended / made positive comments about. Many thanks again. Much appreciated and this is specifically why the forum is there in addition to reports on experiences. And I will post mine. Cheers.
Anyone know if Avril is working these days?
Member #4347
06-17-15, 20:51
Anyone know if Avril is working these days?I have not seen her during the last few days. When she will be back I don't know. As always I recomment to call the reception for exact info.
Did not arrive in Germany unti fairly late and therefore did not get to the Club until 11 pm. Far too late. Was expecting it to be failry dead on a Wednesday night. Got that wrong. Despite dessous tag it was very busy. But with as many men as women. That bit was disappointing but in fact it did not prevent having a great time. After a few beers, started the hunt.
Cecille. Eyes immediately attracted to Ro stunner Cecil and her best friend Ruby. Cecil. Long blonde hair (extensions) super fit body. See cups (sillies but moderate and very nice). Bronzed body. Straight to room. DFK 50 extra. I declined. I found every girl in the club I asked if they did DFK and every one of them said extra. In the NRW clubs and some Frankfurt clubs this is standard so a bit annoying for it to be extra. BBBJ, sex in multiple positions and then some fun and games. Bit of role play (50 e extra but happy with that). One attempt at upsell with "do you want my dildo up your ass for e50". I am thinking that I'm not sure I want it if she paid me! Declined but declining was well accepted. Carried on for one hour. Top service from an exceptionally talented girl. Will repeat.
Ruby. Having rejected the offer of a threesome (probably will do it tomorrow), recovered, got some food (poor selection) and decided to try the other half of the team. Ruby stands very tall. Probably 6 ft without shoes. She is incredibly pretty in face. Wears a jewelled headband. Tanned toned body. She says she is a kick boxer and I tell her I believe her as I don't want to find out! Almost same report as with Cecille. BBBJ, sex in multiple, some extra games / role play. Perhaps not quite the same level as Cecille but still excellent. I told her she looks unapproachable in the bar. She said this was deliberate. She is lucky and does not struggle for customers so she smiles at those she wants to go with and not at those she doesn't like the look of! Once in the room her attitude is excellent. No upsell. One hour. 120 e + 50 e. Will repeat.
Discussions with Cheyenne. Amazing tattoo and tits but said she had done many sessions and service level not likely to be good. So honest. Carrie. Pretty Ro but not to my taste, Samantha. Tried hard and good body but face not for me, and Ina and her other dark haired curvy friend (forgot name) finally decided on final session with Tina (German) black hair, big sillies, thin waist. Mistake. My German is non-existent and her english is not so good. Despite her best efforts I was not going to be able to pop again (my fault not hers) and the chemistry was not right. YMMV. Ended session early. When it's not happening I don't see the point in carrying on. Told her I was calling time after 15 minutes. Probably too tired to have attempted a third girl tonight and she was friendly enough but would not repeat due to lack of chemistry.
Member #4347
06-18-15, 09:15
DFK 50 extra. I declined. I found every girl in the club I asked if they did DFK and every one of them said extra.AFAIK the girls are forbidden to charge DFK or any kind of 'kissing' as extra. They sometimes offer some kind of deal by saying 'I will kiss you if you book me for an hour' or 'I will kiss you if you book CIM too' etc.
However, openly selling Kisses as an extra has always been forbidden. So when the next girl tells you this maybe you should ask the reception if that is correct.
I found your report quite interesting since I know all of the women you mentioned, some I zimmered with and others I only know them through past conversations.
Cecille and Ruby are my type too, however Ruby is gorgeous while Cecille has a great body but somehow she looks a bit more 'artificial'.
So have a great stay and keep up the good work!
Diplomat.
Nille Copenhagen
06-18-15, 09:49
However, openly selling Kisses as an extra has always been forbidden. So when the next girl tells you this maybe you should ask the reception if that is correct.
Diplomat.Kissing is about mood and chemistry, if she asks extra for kissing, that could indicate she doesn't want to kiss you, not all men are nice to kiss. I don't push for kissing if she doesn't do it voluntary.
I accept her choice or I find another girl. I've never been asked extra for kissing.
In addition I have recently seen Asian Suna, Bulgarian Carrie, Romanian Amalia as well as the Germans Penelope, Madleine, Alexis, Tina and many more.
Hope that helps a bit.
Diplomat.Asian Suna, if this is the thai girl that sometimes wear a school uniform with short skirt, she gives great service. In my short history of FKK mongering having visited 7 times, out of 16 sessions, she has given me by far the best service. Very friendly, bubbly and easy to talk to. Great English. In the room she would cuddle up, caress and lick me all over like a girlfriend. Gave great head, with lots of energy and light moaning. Sex in different positions, seemed to like it (at least gave that impression) and just made me feel great. Gave her a 20 tip in the end for outstanding service.
Highly recommended.
Member #4347
06-18-15, 22:58
Asian Suna, if this is the thai girl that sometimes wear a school uniform with short skirtYes that is correct.
Returned on Thursday at 7. 00 pm so a bit earlier. Lots of girls I hadn't seen in the LU the previous night as well as the ones from the previous night. No dessous tag this time and it made a difference. Two girls who I had considered the previous night I no longer wanted to session with as the tits looked saggy. I like them quite firm but not particularly a silicone fan. Food much better with the chicken / peppers option. More girls tonight than last night and less men so buyers market.
First session: Fabienne. Half Ro and half Spanish. I am fairly fluent in Spanish / Italian so I could tell if she was lying and she wasn't. She speaks fluent Spanish. Long dark hair, tall, red lips. Quiet in the room. Nice kissing (no upsell on charge) and some nice 69 but somehow I wasn't tempted to extend beyond 30 minutes. Wouldn't repeat. Not the right chemistry though nice girl.
Second session: Cecille. Back to the old favourite from last night. Not facially as pretty as Ruby her friend but her body is better and is really hot. Nice tight pussy. One hour, great session. She is good fun. Lot's of games and left happy. €170 including €50 for the role playing games.
Third session: Joanna. Ro / Kazakstan. Incredible. Just when I contemplated calling it a day, a very pretty long dark haired girl with amazing brown eyes and a nice body came to talk to me. Very friendly indeed. I thought I recognised her as looking like someone else but couldn't think who. See below!! Tits not as firm as I'm like but her attitude / personality was infectious. Ended up one hour, games, DFK, sex with hat on in multiple positions. Dawned on me then that she is a brunette version of Emilia Clark (Daeneres Targaryen / Keleesi off Game of Thrones). Fantastic service, stunning girl, great attitude, good fun and knows how to please a guy.
Just when I was leaving bumped into Laura. Blonde (German) who I sessioned with some months ago. Too knackered to go again but recall a great session with her and her hair is now flowing and not in pony tail. Too tired for more though so next time!
Left happy. 6 good sessions in Artemis in two day. I still really like the club. I do think another FKK club in Berlin would make everything up its game a bit.
OblikoMoralee
06-19-15, 13:57
Hey guys. Being in Artemis earlier this year, meet there a czech girl from Prague, who thereat didn't empress me much, so I didn't deal with her. However it seemed like I have seen her before. Much later I found out that she probably looks like pornstar Satin Bloom: http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=SatinBloom/gender=f/Satin-Bloom.htm.
Can someone confirm that she or a girl who looks very much like her really works in Artemis and give me a name?
18th June
I arrived at the club around 14.30. It was quite overcast so there wasn't going to be much outdoor fun today. It was pretty quiet in the bar, maybe 15 girls and a similar number of men. After a sauna I went looking for my first girl. I recognized a few faces; Gia, Ina and Alisha were available but in the end I went with Jenna.
Jenna from Germany
I'm sure everyone on this board is familiar with Jenna, her tits are easily the biggest at the club. We had a long chat at the bar, she's wonderful company, then headed upstairs.
This was a superb session, a proper PSE. Lots of spanking and rimming and an energetic shag to finish. An excellent start to the day with a real star. Definite repeat when she returns after the summer. I've been with her a few times but this session was one of the best. 10/10.
I chilled in the bar for a while before looking for my next girl. There were a few more familiar faces present, I recognized Irish, Funda and Amalia but I wanted to try someone new. There were a lot of new (to me) faces and after knocking back a few approaches I went upstairs with Violetta.
Violetta from Romania
She's a very pretty and curvy girl. Just my type. We had a great times together, slow at first but building up to a really strong CIM finish. She knew just when to turn on the dirty talk to keep the session going.
Lots of fun but the lack of kissing means I don't think I will repeat. 7/10.
I was wiped out for a bit so I just hung out in the wellness area. Had a swim and a read before getting dinner. The food was pretty good and the pork stir-fry I had was tasty.
By 19.00 the place was starting to fill up but it wasn't so full as to be uncomfortable. I was on the prowl for my next girl and I was thinking of taking Jenna over the jumps a second time but I got talking to a very beautiful girl at the bar who convinced me to go with her. After a nice chat we went to the room.
Noreena from Romania/Ukraine
This was another new girl for me. Stunning, angular face and a killer (slightly curvy) all-natural body. She wears a red garter belt that sits over a lower back tattoo. This was my third session of the day so it took a little while to get going but when we started she was able to handle everything I threw at her. Finished on her beautiful tits and we were both panting for breath.
Another girl added to my 'definite repeat' list. 9/10.
I decided I would get a massage then decide if I was up for another session. Standing in the bar at her usual spot was one of my all time favourite Artemis babes; Amalia. I had a little chat with her and found her as charming as ever. So after a cigarette and a tea we headed upstairs.
Amalia from Romania
Talk about leaving the best until last. This was one of my all time best sessions in all my years visiting the club. She's an incredible woman, beautiful, sexy, funny. Just great.
After a long time in the room I didn't think I was going to be able to finish but she worked her magic and had one of the strongest orgasms I've ever experienced. Out of this world.
Guaranteed repeat 10/10.
That was me done for the day. Even when I was leaving it wasn't super busy and there was no wait for a room. I looked for Avril but she wasn't working and chatting with some of the other Romania girls they were saying she was taking some time off and getting breast implants. Which I was quite sad to hear.
Thanks for reading.
Returned to the Love Bahnhof for one evening last week, it had been quite a while since my previous visit. As was to be expected, a lot of new faces, but also, sadly, a lot of old favorites were missing. I think I saw Fatima in the distance at one point, but she was snapped up by an old geezer before I could reach her. I think maybe I was too intent on finding girls I had sessioned with before, and when they did not appear, my motivation was not 100%.
Some of the new girls were plenty attractive, though, and I had my eye on one short-ish young looking girl-next-door, with dirty-blond hair, natural be-cups for a while before approaching her. Eva (or Ewa?) from ROM, seemed happy for the attention, and was sweet and friendly downstairs. Not easy to communicate with, though, her English was as bad as my German. Went upstairs anyway, and she did unfortunately turn out to be too much of a novice. She was totally passive, weak BJ, and no kissing. The cowgirl was actually not too bad, and she did take a pounding in doggie, but with practically no pretense of having fun throughout. Can not recommend at this level of service, but maybe / hopefully she will improve as she was quite new to the scene. No upsell in the room, that's a good thing, we went for a vanilla 30 minutes (60 Euros).
Eva turned out to be my only zimmer-encounter that evening. I left Artemis with a sinking feeling that my fascination with the place had diminished, and that the "normal" brothels are more my style. Will not abandon Art, though. If some of the "old" guard are present on my next visit, this evening could have been nothing more than a speed-bump.
Rocketboy0
06-21-15, 20:31
I left Artemis with a sinking feeling that my fascination with the place had diminished...Perhaps, but for others, the myth only grows. RB heard some fine stories about the Barce-Juve weekend while lurking around this past Saturday, itself unusually busy. I was in the house the Friday before Das Match and by late afternoon, I counted at least 100 guys around the outdoor pool. I had a fine time with one of my wives in one of the outdoor rooms, but left very early, and stayed away Saturday. Apparently, there was an alleged count of over 3,000 entries at the Reception on Saturday, and even at 05:00 closing time, there was a large que out in the parking lot trying to get in. It became so nuts that all lockers were full and someone had to leave before someone was allowed inside. And guys once inside so outnumbered the available lovelies that dudes were offering hundreds of Euros just for a 5-10 min session, which our intrepid damsels, amazingly enough, accepted.
I wasn't there, so who knows, but I heard the stories repeated. It seems even the next day Sunday, and a bit on Monday, things were full on. Far more crowds than the IFA. Apparently a fair bit of So Europa men told their families they were away on a football weekend, and just spent 3 days on penisalty kicks. Or UEFA actually stands for Unbelievable Extraordinary Fuckathon at Artemis.
Ok. It was a one off, a perfect storm etc. But for some months now, weekends seem more and more crowded almost to the point where it's too much, especially on Saturday night. Between the smoke, the crowding, and the mindless electronic dance music design to make a monger feral (such unerotic thumping with no drugs to make it tolerable), the strategy is come mid-late afternoon, enjoy what can be enjoyed, but be ready to bolt by 23:00. There are still some great women, but increasingly, all systems are getting overstretched. Less and less a sensual experience; more like boarding an EasyJet flight.
RB will soon take a long pause, and increasingly, the private bordellos beckon. Already, some of the A team are off on holidays and the ranks are thinning out; maybe this has been accelerated somewhat by the UEFA fallout.
If you are hell bent on seeing someone in particular, these days especially, and more so if you are traveling from afar, it's worth it to call ahead to ask if someone is actually in that day/week, even though the front desk may not know for sure until 20:00 depending upon the girl.
ZimmerBaby
06-23-15, 18:12
I left Artemis with a sinking feeling that my fascination with the place had diminished, and that the "normal" brothels are more my style. Will not abandon Art, though. If some of the "old" guard are present on my next visit, this evening could have been nothing more than a speed-bump.Agreed. Totally. Artemis is like cold women and hot beer. Lack of emotions, shit music, someone must give the DJ a free one way ticket to Syria. I love electronics music, but this crap belongs to doghouses in the outskirts of Pristina, Kosovo. The opposite is available other places in Berlin. It was so nice to rediscover vitality and sexual desire / energy. But for new visitors; enjoy the adrenalin and rush being surrounded by 100 naked girls. Miss the good old days. Zimmer out.
PussyLiccker
06-24-15, 03:44
Kissing is about mood and chemistry, if she asks extra for kissing, that could indicate she doesn't want to kiss you, not all men are nice to kiss. I don't push for kissing if she doesn't do it voluntary.
I accept her choice or I find another girl. I've never been asked extra for kissing.It could, but I think it's more likely that she sees somebody that will go with it. If it was a German regular at a certain club, that she will get kicked out for complaints likely she will not try it on them. If she thinks you are a newbie or certain type of men, she will try her luck. I expect girls with some experience to try this. Also, a girl that was quite popular or busy could after awhile start charging extras for services. And then, there are ones that think they are hot stuff, and thinks they have a good chance with doing unofficial extras. Also, if she see potential in you as a long term customer, if she notices you more often at a club, less likely she will try it to see if she can get you hooked long term.
If she doesn't want to kiss the man, she probably won't. Some girls kiss nearly every guy, and some girls are really not GFE material. I've met girls that would rather kiss take it slow than get some hard pounding, and others that just isn't a GFE material.
Just to add some names to that list of first class girls as Diplomat described: Angie (Kos / Ger), Axenya (Bul), Ella (Rus), Mandy (aut) and Juliette (rus) (not sure she is still around). What seems to be the norm of these types of girls are that they are at least 27 years old, so they are pros and the experience to handle all types of guys. They probably all enjoy sex to some degree as well.
Has any of you guys seen Geraldine from Hungary recently at Artemis? And do you know her working schedule for summer season.
Visited Artemis last week.
Heard so much from fellow mongers that I was somewhat underwhelmed by the place. The place is big and does not have too many girls.
I guess same no as in the other FKK clubs in frankfurt. I like the rooms here, they are nice and hygienic and every room is theme based one different from the other.
I tried a girl named alessandra who claimed she was from Spain, I have my doubts on that. Petite looking, medium height, about 63-64 inches, dark hair, medium tits, cute looking and pretty.
I aksed her if she would kiss and she in turn asked me if I smoke and I smiled. We went to one of the room upstairs and she picked a nice room based on my choice. I told her what I want.
We started to kiss and she was an aggressive kisser, deep, infact very deep, uses tongue extensively. Like it very much.
She got down and what transpired was one of the best BJ's I ever got, anywhere. This was a very different kind of a BJ, never got it before, very wet and lots of tongue involved.
She spent a good 20 minutes on it after which I fucked her in missionary, spoon, cowboy and doggy. I was kind of missing the BJ so asked her again for the same.
She took the condom off and gave me another amazing suck. Asked her if I could finish off in her mouth and she asked me in turn if I was healthy.
Liked the idea, gave her my nod and blasted my cream off in her mouth. She complained that it was quite bitter, I laughed and said what else do you expect.
Had loads of beers in the evening, so that could be one of the reaons. All in all a very satisfying session.
My rating. Body - 6. 5/10, attitude, 9/10, service, 8. 5/10.
Yes I did fuck her again and it was as nice as the earlier one.
Eva (Ro) - had a chat with her at the bar and took her to the room. Overall sloppy performance, she was just not interested in the BJ or the kiss.
I fucked her quite hard in return. Overall below avergae.
My advise avoid her like a plague.
I also tried one of her (Eva) friends who she hangs out with and stays generally near the bar. Forgot her name but she is also Romanian but definitely looks like an arabic.
She is very pretty, medium height, again 62-63 inches. Dark hair, dark eyes, with humongous natural tits.
I took her instantly for the size, she was not bad, below alessandra and above eva, somewhere in the middle.
She forgot to lock the door and one of the cleaners opened it while I was fuking her in doggie and was pumping her aggressively. We both laughed quite badly.
Doggie was my favourite position with her followed by 69, she had an incredible ass. Round and very curvy and she knew how to move it. Blasted in her mouth and happily paid €100.
My ratings. Body - 9/10 (if one likes it big), performance 8/10, attitude, 8/10.
I did fuck one turkish girl who was very pretty but loads of attitude and another romanian who allowed me to kiss her only if I confirmed a €100 payout with CIM.
My observations- alot of men are always hanging around the staircase and looking up and down. Don't like it. The place is not that great and is good for a one time visit.
Again and again is not doable. Beer and other drinks are expensive and food is not great. Entry and session charges are high, I don't mind it as long as the quality is good.
Have fun and let me know what you think.
Member #4347
06-25-15, 12:22
Blasted in her mouth and happily paid 100.
Thank you for the report. A 30 minutes basic session means 60 Euro and CIM is an extra which costs 50 Euro. So you should have paid 110 Euro not 100 Euro unless you got a discount which sadly never happened to me. About the girls you went with I don't know them or I don't know them well enough to comment.
However, there are very few Spanish girls, many of those who claim to be Spanish or Italian or maybe Greek are in fact Romanian, Moldovian or Bulgarian. I have pointed this out a long time ago as have others on here.
About the entrance fee I agree it is quite expensive and the overall food quality is very low even if sometimes it is a little better compared to the bad days. I personally don't care about the prices for alcohol since most of the time I am quite happy with non alcoholic beverages. I don't know what you mean by there were 'not too many girls' because there can be up to more than a 100 girls sometimes. You must have chosen a bad time or somehow you didn't realize how many girls were at the place alltogether.
I don't really like it when it is too crowded and since it is the only FKK club in Berlin of this size it can get very crowded. As a local and as a regular this is not such a big deal since you know when to visit and when to better avoid the place. Personally and mainly because you get to know people and you tend to get much better service from the ladies you know and care about, I still love the place and I think its worth more than one visit for sure.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
Yeah it was 110 and not 100, noone gets discount in prices. Discount in services sure.
Thank you for the report. A 30 minutes basic session means 60 Euro and CIM is an extra which costs 50 Euro. So you should have paid 110 Euro not 100 Euro unless you got a discount which sadly never happened to me. About the girls you went with I don't know them or I don't know them well enough to comment.
However, there are very few Spanish girls, many of those who claim to be Spanish or Italian or maybe Greek are in fact Romanian, Moldovian or Bulgarian. I have pointed this out a long time ago as have others on here.
About the entrance fee I agree it is quite expensive and the overall food quality is very low even if sometimes it is a little better compared to the bad days. I personally don't care about the prices for alcohol since most of the time I am quite happy with non alcoholic beverages. I don't know what you mean by there were 'not too many girls' because there can be up to more than a 100 girls sometimes. You must have chosen a bad time or somehow you didn't realize how many girls were at the place alltogether.
I don't really like it when it is too crowded and since it is the only FKK club in Berlin of this size it can get very crowded. As a local and as a regular this is not such a big deal since you know when to visit and when to better avoid the place. Personally and mainly because you get to know people and you tend to get much better service from the ladies you know and care about, I still love the place and I think its worth more than one visit for sure.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
Visited Artemis last week...
Heard so much from fellow mongers that I was somewhat underwhelmed by the place.
Have fun and let me know what you think.Me thinks that if your impression of Artemis (major FKK club 80 euro all-in, with 50 to 100 naked girls from different nationalities ready to BBJ / kiss / fuck you for 60 euros, in a safe environment) is that it has few girls, overpriced, poor atmosphere, hit and miss service (crap food is the only opinion I agree upon). Well then you must be a lucky guy, since it means your usual mongering spots are better.
Please share, I am still on time to change my summer schedule.
Well said. Only thailand is comparable, and there it is also very hit and miss with prices creeping upwards too fast for my taste.
TankTank123
06-27-15, 06:21
Also speaking about other women I personally like a lot but YMMV there is German Turkish Aylin, German Xenia, German Loira, German Nadja, Romanian Clara there right now.I tried out Aylin and Xenia, and also a Georgian called Georgina. Aylin and Georgina were so-so and just wanted to finish the session quickly. But Xenia surprisingly provided good GFE contrary to earlier reports I have read about her in this forum thread.
Hermann666
06-27-15, 07:25
I tried out Aylin and Xenia, and also a Georgian called Georgina. Aylin and Georgina were so-so and just wanted to finish the session quickly. But Xenia surprisingly provided good GFE contrary to earlier reports I have read about her in this forum thread.I had an excellent session with Georgina a while back. Otherwise I think Cheyenne is the best girl at Artemis. I've been with her a few times and she has always been great. Russian Viola gave me the best blowjob I've ever had.
Mr Dutedrac, I think you have taken this personally but I find Sharks and Mainhattan better. Quality of service is far superior and there is hardly any attitude thrown away by the chicks.
Additionally I also feel beauty on display is higher and there are more good stunners at these places. You may or may not agree with me but that's how I feel. When you say 50-100 girls at Artemis you failed to mention the no of men loitering around as well. My observation is that there are 2 girls for every 1 man in Frankfurt as compared to 3 for every 2 in Berlin.
Just my 2 cents.
Me thinks that if your impression of Artemis (major FKK club 80 euro all-in, with 50 to 100 naked girls from different nationalities ready to BBJ / kiss / fuck you for 60 euros, in a safe environment) is that it has few girls, overpriced, poor atmosphere, hit and miss service (crap food is the only opinion I agree upon). Well then you must be a lucky guy, since it means your usual mongering spots are better.
Please share, I am still on time to change my summer schedule.
TankTank123
06-27-15, 19:12
I spent 2 weekday afternoons and early evenings at Artemis this week after a 1 year break. Perhaps I was lucky, or perhaps it is often quiet on weekdays, but the ratio of girls to men were about 2:1, very similar to the Frankfurt clubs. There were more than enough girls to choose from and I was pleasantly surprised by the number of slim ones.
But as before, I was put off by the suffocating cigarette smoke, as ventilation is poor compared to the Frankfurt clubs, and left early in the night because of it. Maybe the ratio gets worse later at night as I did see plenty of men streaming in when I departed.
Artemis can sometimes be buzzing with more guys than girls when there is a big messe ongoing. Even if there are 150 girls there. Sundays, tuesdays and especially mondays are very quiet though. Sometimes with three girls to one guy. But if you want a good girl to guy ratio, just go there before 16.00 in the evening. You might find 25 girls there and just 5 guys. Unfortunately the average on those girls are a bit below those who arrive later. But you could be lucky. I guess the fact that this is far from a strange occurance to have a messe ongoing practically next door to artemis is why pretty much all the girls consider it the best fkk and where they make the most money.
TankTank123
06-28-15, 07:19
pretty much all the girls consider it the best fkk and where they make the most money.A girl I was with told me that on the night of the Champions league finals, there were so many customers relative to girls that a few offered her €200 or €300 just for 30 minutes. She said that she turned them all down as they appeared drunk. The girls must have had made a killing that night.
Mr Dutedrac, I think you have taken this personally but I find Sharks and Mainhattan better. Quality of service is far superior and there is hardly any attitude thrown away by the chicks.
Additionally I also feel beauty on display is higher and there are more good stunners at these places. You may or may not agree with me but that's how I feel. When you say 50-100 girls at Artemis you failed to mention the no of men loitering around as well. My observation is that there are 2 girls for every 1 man in Frankfurt as compared to 3 for every 2 in Berlin.
Just my 2 cents.It is good to know that Line up is more beautiful and young?? At sharks as I am going to sharks this summer for first time.
But FKK Manhattan has good line up?? Younger?? Than Artemis.
Artemis is not bad at all, I like the layout, location, management and some girls, but since I like younger girls, it is hard to find girls who are young at Artemis.
I never was treated badly by girls in Artemis though. Some upsell but not every time and I think Artemis is overall very balanced club.
Only complaint I have is that if entrance fee is higher than other German FKK and session is also higher than other German FKK, I like to see some difference in quality Artemis offer. I always think Artemis just charge you higher fee because it is only major FKK in Berlin where as in Frankfurt for example has competition so they got to compete, so price is lower there a bit and since there are competition better girls and better service in Frankfurt than in Berlin?
No competition makes girls lazy. Management is good at Artemis though.
WarmStone25
07-02-15, 18:01
A good day.
I visited Artemis again last Sunday, after a gap of 7 months. Arrived about 13.00 hours and left about 20.00 hours. The weather was nice and the outdoor area was much enjoyed. There was plenty of food available and I found the quality to be a little more than acceptable. As before I enjoyed the the day because it was quite but with a sufficient number of girls. There was always was plenty of girls around the bar waiting to be picked up. Later in the day I went with 3 girls, at different times. They all said they were from Hungary. Was this a coincidence or do they hunt in packs? They all had a persuasive ability and tried up-sell, but this was easily deflected. I went for the basic 60 e sessions. I was too busy enjoying myself and getting all exited to remember their names. The place got busier in the evening with even more good looking sexy naked girls.
I hardly noticed the time passing. I did not think the that the entrance fee was so high that it would deter me from going in. As before I found Artemis to be a good place to spend a day when in Berlin.
FlyByCable
07-06-15, 11:52
There was a lot of stunning girls in the pool at Artemis Saturday and Sunday, especially two of them that looked like real art, I couldn't let my eyes of them. I think I was drooling like a St Bernard (dog) when I stared at them for a long time LOL, I wish to know their names for my next visit.
Both of the girls had real good looking tan and one of them had a lot of tattoos, she had a tattoo in the neck looking like a dollar sign with a crown on top and on her stomach she had "see'est la vie" and also a big gun tattoo at her right leg, she was speaking German with others in the pool, I can't speak German myself so I never come to speak with her.
The other girl had had a similar body shape but no tattoos, except a small one on her left wrist what I could see, I think she was speaking Romanian, she was speaking and playing with Amelia and Amalia in the pool, she had painted fingernails in turquoise, purple and pink I think, and she had like a golden barrette in her hair, her height was probably around 160-165 cm, she had a fabulous smile and a wonderful face and she was laughing all the time, she sat by the pool stairs, both of the girls had real good looking silicone.
I really hope they will be there the next weekend, does anyone know their names?
Thanks in advance.
Hermann666
07-06-15, 23:42
There was a lot of stunning girls in the pool at Artemis Saturday and Sunday, especially two of them that looked like real art, I couldn't let my eyes of them. I think I was drooling like a St Bernard (dog) when I stared at them for a long time LOL, I wish to know their names for my next visit.
Both of the girls had real good looking tan and one of them had a lot of tattoos, she had a tattoo in the neck looking like a dollar sign with a crown on top and on her stomach she had "see'est la vie" and also a big gun tattoo at her right leg, she was speaking German with others in the pool, I can't speak German myself so I never come to speak with her.
The other girl had had a similar body shape but no tattoos, except a small one on her left wrist what I could see, I think she was speaking Romanian, she was speaking and playing with Amelia and Amalia in the pool, she had painted fingernails in turquoise, purple and pink I think, and she had like a golden barrette in her hair, her height was probably around 160-165 cm, she had a fabulous smile and a wonderful face and she was laughing all the time, she sat by the pool stairs, both of the girls had real good looking silicone.
I really hope they will be there the next weekend, does anyone know their names?
Thanks in advance.The girl with the gun tattoo sounds like German Nadja from Berlin. Was she blonde with nice silicone? She is a regular at Artemis and usually hangs out with Jana from Berlin. A blonde with natural breasts. They sit at the end of the bar in the lounge. Nadja is sometimes called the ice queen. A little cold in the lounge but good in the room. I did her once together with Jana.
Member #4469
07-07-15, 00:16
Aha, I did a search in the forum and found the name of the first girl. Melli or Melly.I was also at Artemis this Sunday, the name of the first girl you described is Kiara if I'm not mistaken!?
I had a session with a few months ago she had a tight pussy but she had one of the worst BJ I have had in my life (she sucks with her teethes) ok personality didn't kiss and didn't seem to like DATY. If you have a connection with her go for it, otherwise don't bother.
Sorry but I don't know the name of girl number 2.
Myself had a two fabulous sessions with Mayra from Venezuela she is very much GFE, highly recommended!
Member #4347
07-07-15, 01:15
Hi FlybyCable.
I do not know the names of the girls you saw with absolute certainty. Playing a guessing game and just throwing names makes no sense to me. Sorry to ask this but why didn't you just ask them to introduce themselves. You can be sure the girls are able to say their names, the prices and a at least the stuff that is needed for their work in German, English and a few other languages.
BTW at times the vast majority of the guests are Non Germans and nobody expects you to be fluent in German.
German Melli does have a pistol tattoo on her leg but I believe she is not the only one. About the other tattoos I am not sure.
About what Hermann666 said I can tell you for sure NONE of the girls you described is Nadja. I like her too and I know he has been with her and Jana. But nothing about your description fits her: Nadja has a few tattoos but none of it is a dollar sign or a pistol or anything similar. Also she is 175 cm tall without shoes, she does not speak Romanian and she is certainly not laughing all the time. I know her well and this is not her.
Please guys don't take this personally but if you are really interested in a girl don't be too shy and approach her. No one who is worth your money and the effort will refuse to give her name or even spell it so that you can take a note.
And then if you got a name or someone on here gives you a name please use the search function. Nadja for example has been described more than once so that should have turned up.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
FlyByCable
07-07-15, 09:56
Thanks Hermann666, but I think Nadja is the wrong name.
Yes Diplomat, you are right. There is no meaning to drop names around. I think now Melli was the wrong name, this girl with the BIG gun tattoo on her right leg was NOT blonde (maybe dyed hair?) and she had very good looking silicone, maybe it can be Kiara? I don't know. I hope they will be there next weekend and I will have a chat with them.
I think both of them were incredibly beautiful, especially the second girl, a real beautiful face with one of the most beautiful smile I ever seen. If I should guess her age I would say somewhere around 22-24. But for sure, it's not always the best looking girls that give the best performance.
And with that I'll finish with a small tip. I had two great sessions with the Polish Gabriela this weekend, a wonderful girl with a great performance, she did the sessions with great presence and she's a good kisser.
A big recommend for her.
I think that the name of the girl with the tattoo "see'est la vie" on her stomach and also a big gun tattoo at her right leg and she was speaking German is FAIRY.
I went with her more than a year ago. She had long black hair and not middle brown hair like now.
Bye.
Monday 13/07-2015.
I arrived very late – almost at 02:00. I prefer girls with fake tits but I didn't see that many compared to previous visits and reports.
Nina or Nika or?
German girl with fake tits, slim and dark hair.
She seemed nice when I talked to her but inside the room she was very disappointing. She thought I was a newbie and tried all the old tricks on me.
Samantha.
Bulgarian girl with glasses, fake tits, blond hair, slim, MILF-look.
Very good session. She did a lot of DFK, very long blowjob with deep throat and face fucking, many positions etc. I was about to leave the room after I finished but she told me that I still had 5 min left and that she would give me a massage. She told me that it's her birthday on Wednesday. I might go and give her an early birthday present today. She might not be the best looking girl but I strongly recommend her.
Astonian2008
07-14-15, 22:00
Hi,
Sorry if it is the wrong place to post.
I'm planning to visit Berlin in late August and was wondering if it is acceptable to go with my wife.
Thanks for the help.
Rocketboy0
07-15-15, 03:27
I'm planning to visit Berlin in late August and was wondering if it is acceptable to go with my wife.Absolutely. It is fine to visit Berlin with your wife. You can even visit the other 500+ cities of Europe with your wife. No special permission needed. Sometimes a leash is handy.
However (drum roll).
If in addition, you were thinking to bring her to the hell hole, swamp of sin, mine-field of muschi Artemis die Fick-Fabrik:
Fuggedabowdit.
No womens allowed. Dems is the rules. The private bordellos and various swinger clubs are another matter. See the Berlin thread esp Berlin FAQ and all the info on other threads like Party Treff for Insominia etc.
Hi,
According to Artemis site, there's a pool party the 29th. Is it best to avoid this kind of events? Or does it actually bring the better talent? Being on a Wednesday I would imagine that it won't be too crowded, so the ration might not be that bad? What would the local experts recommendation would be? To go for the pool party or go the day after or the Friday after? I can go that week, but can only go one day. Some thoughts about it would be highly appreciated!
Thanks!
Hey,
I'm really into these 2 girls. Are they both active in Artemis for the moment? Any of them?
Member #4449
07-20-15, 23:07
So I was back at Artemis, or as Rocketboy so elegantly, and poetically described it, hell hole, swamp of sin, mine-field of muschi Artemis die Fick-Fabrik.
Way to go lowering my expectations like that.
I will try to make this shorter then my previous reports.
Day 1, Wednesday.
Marta, Latvia.
Might be the most beautiful woman there after my taste, very pretty face, very nice slim body, be cups, plump pussy with very suck able lips. She was normally sitting in the couch on behind the bar upstairs. Does not seam to approach. I gave her a big smile when she walked up the stairs, this made her come over to me and chat, got a nice vibe from her, short interview, she ticked all my boxes. In the room she kept her promises, light DFK, DATY, very nice slow no hands blow job, with DT.
Promised I would take her to the room again later.
German from Berlin.
Don't remember her name. Said she was the only one from Berlin there. Said she only works part time a few days at a time. Dyed blond Mid / late 20 ties, tattoos writings down her side, brand new way to big sillies, I had to promise to be gentle with them. Normally not my style. But there just was something about her that made me trust her, very easy to talk to, also made me talk very straight forward, so I asked for kissing and GFE, first time I uttered the words girl friend experience to a working girl she laughed and said is that's all?
In the room, light DFK, DATY, but when it got interesting and she got very wet she stopped me. Of to blow job multiple positions, she asked for anal, she said she wanted to cum, but did not come from pussy, I declined, finished at around 40 minutes, we talked for 20 minutes, very cool woman, no bullshitting. Gave me tips about my kissing, apparently I could do better. We talked about why I did not do CIM and anal, role-play, feet fetish as most guys, apparently do. My wallet regretted this conversation later on. Said I was very nice guy but a little to slow, I think she meant she preferred someone with a little more outgoing personality. Very refreshing. Very nice session.
Ella, Russian.
Not much to say, not my cup of tea in the way of looks. But she is just a super solid performer, when I asked for slow, I got slow, 40/45 minutes of foreplay, then 10 min of fucking. A must try for anyone visiting Artemis.
Axenya, Bulgarian.
Petite hot body, sillies that actually was a good size for the frame. Since it was lingerie day, you could not tell from inside the bikini.
She walked up to me said she did all the things I normally go for, before I even asked her, DFK, slow, etc. I had a 50/50 feeling about here, but hey its only 60 euro right and she was hot. Up the stairs we went, her idea of foreplay, 2 pecks on the lips, and then Blowjobb now? Within 30 seconds. All the alarm bells started ringing. This smelled like she trying to get me out of the room within 10 minutes. So I decided to make the best out of it, and make sure she would have stay every single 30 minutes.
But there was no up sell and no rushing. Had an extended blow job plus rigorous fucking, for over 20 minutes. The lying about the kissing made actually more determined to get the most of my 60 euros so I was more lets say energetic then normal. She turned to to be a good optifick. Spent 5 minutes talking after, and the gentleman in me returned and we left at the 27 min mark.
African looking girl, but with lighter skin, maybe Julianna?
She said half German half American, her English did not support that, probably raised in Germany, Lived in Hamburg, young, said she was 22, dark skin, short 155 maybe very pretty. Initially I declined her outright, but she kept coming over to me and talked to me non pushy just natural little chats, she was super sweet, so after almost a day of these little talks I took her to an outside room. Sadly my initial gut feeling was correct, turns she was way to inexperienced. Only 2 weeks at Artemis, came from clubs in Hamburg and the reaper bahn. And took after the sharks, wanted 20 euro for kissing with tongue, on the lips was ok, I told her she was not allowed to this, she said she knew, but it was normal all the Romanians did it, and that they also charged for licking etc. I said this was simply not true, it is sad if the sharks are corrupting her. Result no foreplay so no proper season for me.
Day 2, Thursday.
Marta.
In my second session with her I did something I have never done before, asked a non sex session, I asked for a very long slow and deep blow job only with CIM. She smiled and said no problem. My previous experiences with CIM, is the girls jumps up 5 secs after I am finished and spits. Not so with Marta, she kept going and going until I was completely empty. She even gave me the paper towel before she got some for her own to spit in. But frankly I did not need the towel, there was nothing left to clean.
Jolene, Hungarian.
Know her from before, see my previous reports. She is very good to me I like her a lot. She also reads the forums apparently, she told me she had read my previous report and knew I had written it.
Soma, Thailand.
Very cute, I had not been with a Thai before. Promised kissing, but in he room only on the lips and avoided it, so stopped trying. Gave a nice blow job, had this interesting DT technique, want all the way down, turned her head almost 180 degree, then puled up, you could feel your dick twisting in the back at her throat. I did DATY after the excellent blow job, but after this my little friend failed me, so no fucking her, I wanted to do her doggy looking at her tiny cute butt. Promised I would make it up to her later. We spent the last 5 minutes just spooning, and cuddling.
Day 3, Friday.
After 2 days at Artemis my dick got so sore, never had this happen to me before. Fucked up my schedule and had to take the Friday off, wonder if this what a girls pussy feels like after a busy day. It fucked up my schedule and forced me to go to Artemis on a Saturday.
Day 4, Saturday.
It was immediately clear that Saturdays are different from other days. The vibe was completely different from previous visits, even how the girls handled themselves, the previous days was all about slow sex, massage etc, now it was all business and everything you said was countered with, "depends how much you will spend baby". Not that I blame them, Artemis was full of first timers, so standing at the stairs, I noticed a lot of 15 min sessions. Did not like it very much. It took me 3 or 4 hours before I did my first room.
Cynthia.
When she arrived I just took her, because of lack of other interesting girls, and I remembered her to be good last time, my report said 90 min session. Big mistake, everything was restricted, not like last time. So no meaningful foreplay possible. Also lied to me about remaining time, when I asked she said the 30 minutes was up, checked the watch after, and it was bit over 20 minutes.
Soma.
Again it took a long time before anyone interesting showed up. So when Soma arrived I picked her up in almost desperation. I knew the blow job would be good, but no foreplay. Turns out her pussy is a little to tight for me, came to fast to be enjoyable, my shortest room this trip 17, minutes. Not her fault at all, entirely my own.
At this point I was a bit depressed and very negative, Saturday Artemis had not treated me well.
Amalia, Germany / Iran.
The savior of Saturday Artemis. Seen her around, nice long dark hair, pretty face, very nice body perky natural tits, no tattoos. But had always struck me as a shark. Was very busy, did 4 Asians the first hour, then 3 more guys the next. But the lack of talent this Saturday, made me curious. So I talked to her, learned her name, and that she might be the one mentioned on the boards. Though she was all business, wanted minimum 1 hour + CIM, to give me good service. So I turned her down. She hinted me to all day that we should go to the room, just in passing, groping my ass etc.
So when I sat alone outside dwelling in my self pity, she came around and asked how I was, I told her that my time so far had not been great. She just said, shitty girls right? She sat down on my lap hugged me and said she wanted to cuddle with me. She was now warming up to me, but I needed a little more rest time, later I found her, accepting her terms. Boy was I not disappointed, she left the business side outside the room, turned in to a complete sweetheart, and was all I needed her to be at that time, turned a shitty day to an excellent one. Extended the session just to cuddle. Told me I had been with her last year, but I did not remember her.
Did not want to push my luck, so no more sessions, left for my hotel.
Did some reading about Amalia when I got back to the hotel, and found her in my own report from last year, She looked different then curly hair, I did not accept her requirement then and it was one the worst experiences after. Oh the irony. Confronted her the next day, and was honest about it she said yes it was bad.
Day 5, Sunday.
Amalia.
Entered Artemis a few minutes after 11, Amalia was sitting at the bar, and off we went. We started with cuddling pressed my whole body really close to hers, kissing, or more like tongue twisting and tongue sucking not really popper DFK. She held me close saying Your are so cute, I want to eat you up, and quite literally she did, nibbling on my cheeks and nose, inn between the kissing. Over to a long blow job with some DT. Asked for anal this time, just to be reminded why anal is not for me, there are just no stimulation there, just a tight squeeze, so I lost my erection. I finished off in doggy, with my thumb up her ass. So gain anal penetration not my thing, fingering and playing on the other hand was nice, these girls should offer butt plug play. If one of them walked trough the bar with a butt plug in her ass, like one with a jewel on the end. I bet she would attract a lot of guys inducing me.
Amalia, and Mariella.
As I was ticking some check boxes, I though why not lets do one more.
Asked her to bring a friend, but it would have to be threesome where I was not the centre, it had to be on all of us, she said not problem. She brought a blonde friend Mariella witch she shares an apartment with. I am not going in to details here. But it succeeded all my expectations, they did as promised and then some. Even better I managed to last a long while, just fantastic.
Martina or Martine Bulgarian.
No clue why I picked her, not my type at all, I plead momentary insanity. Asked my normal question, she said yes. In the room everything was off the table, left after 20 minutes when she tried to cheat me on time, saved my orgasm.
Chyeanne? Not sure it spelled correct. Ukraine / turkey.
Pissed off from the last encounter I did yet an another mistake, picked this blonde by the name, Chyenne I t sounded like. Asked the same questions, got a yes. Walking up the stairs I realised this was not the same girl mentioned as a solid performer. Again everything was a no go, even touching breasts Just told her to blow me, and let her do so with no intention off cumming, after a while she caught on, she said 2 min left are you going to cum? I looked at her watch, I had 7 minutes left. I said to her, maybe, keep going I still have time. And man she got pissed, screamed at me saying the time was up, checked my own watch and I was right. Got the feeling I had pressed my luck, so we left, no talk or pleasantry where exchange when money changed hands.
In hindsight this was pretty much an asshole move on my part, and now I feel a tiny tiny bit sorry for her.
After this was so angry I just left Artemis. The lady at the respiration asked if everything was OK, and I tried to tell her it was not, but she just ignored me, and changed the subject by saying "is you locker all empty?" I just walked away pissed off at myself, pissed off at lying girls, pissed off at Artemis. And was hell bent to never go back to Artemis again.
Got back to the hotel and released my aggression by rage writing extra 2 pages to this report, I edited out most of it.
Day 6, Monday.
Woke up in much better mood.
And of course I went back to Artemis, after all I had made a promise to Amalia, and a gentleman can not break a promise right. And hoping Jolene would be there, she had been absent Saturday and Sunday.
Jolene.
Found Amalia at the front of the bar, and Jolene at the back, Amalia hooked me inn, but I told her if it was ok to go with Jolene first, Amalia did not mind.
Jolene was just the perfect GFE as always.
Amalia.
After resting I found Amalia, yet another great session with her.
Though Amalia sucked my wallet dry, she always delivered on her promise. Solid performer if you accept her terms, really bad if you don't. But at least she is honest about it and you can make the choose before going to the room. To me she was PSE with GFE elements with some kissing and cuddling attached in my case. Still had a great time with her.
Final Session, 2 hours with Jolene.
Gents if you come across this women, treat her nice. She is indeed a rare thing these days.
Jolene if you read this, I thank you yet again for a wonderful time.
After thoughts.
As reported before Artemis is pretty much filled up with tattoos and silicone these days, most of them look intimidating or unfriendly to me. Some did not handle rejection well, so I stopped trying. Was very close to take Nadja to the room tough. Amelia told me, in just the last few months 10 more of the girls got their boobs done.
One note, as I left a room upstairs one of these cold and "scary" girls passed me talking in the phone laughing and smiling, why was she not like this down stair, I would take her to the room in a heartbeat.
Found only 4 interesting women this time, there are probably more gems in there, but I did not have the skills to find them. I do not know If this warrants a new visit. But I had a pretty nice time all things considered.
Now a question, when you do DATY and the woman reaches climax. And the clit gets super sensitive, the lightest touch of your tongue instantly makes her muscles contract, and if you do it more then once they push you away, and protects the pussy with her hands. I have experienced this with many working girls. Is this fake able, it is such instant reaction. They do say I am good at it, but is it just ego stroking?
This hobby is such a mind fuck sometimes.
I so failed on the short thing, BTW. But I did edit away 2 pages.
So I was back at Artemis,
I will try to make this shorter then my previous reports.
This hobby is such a mind fuck sometimes.
I so failed on the short thing, BTW. But I did edit away 2 pages.Hey Batuou. Far from finding your report too long: it was well written, really honest, very informative and useful. I wish you hadn't edited away those pages. I was in Artemis a few weeks ago for only two nights and then spent 4 nights in the Hessen clubs in and around Frankfurt. I reported a comparison (as I do each time I visit both Berlin and Frankfurt). Last year FRA won hands down with Sharks and Oase. This time, for me Artemis was a clear winner. It's all about the girls you meet. Interestingly you didn't mention any of my favs at Artemis. Joanne (half Ro and half Kazakstan) - dark long hair, bee cups and great performer. Celia. Blonde - sits at bar with Ruby on front rather than behind where the couches are. They come across as unfriendly in the lounge until you have sessioned with them / get to know them. After which they are very lovely girls. Ruby is stunning. Blonde - wears jewelled headband. Celia is tall, blonde, great body. My type. Both offer all services and are good sessions. Maybe Celia slightly better. Laura. German - blonde. Very facially pretty. Sits on final couch in corner behind the bar towards the dining room end. I know a lot of girls go home for summer so maybe that explained it. Don't know Jolene or Amalia so will look out for both on next trip in a few weeks.
Anyway. I really enjoyed your report. Very useful for anyone going shortly and excellent that you recalled names and did not shy from giving positive and negative reviews. Which is what the forum is all about. I applaud your stamina. Despite the sore cock one day! I'm there start of August so let me know if you are going to be back!
Member #4449
07-21-15, 07:57
Interestingly you didn't mention any of my favs at Artemis. Joanne (half Ro and half Kazakstan) - dark long hair, B cups and great performer. Celia. BlondeBoth where there and introduced themselves to me, they did not catch me at the right time I guess. Somehow you forget the girls that introduces them self when you are resting easier, then when you are on the prowl.
Sometimes you see yourself blind, by all women there, and having to much information going in.
Thanks for the positive feedback.
Member #4347
07-21-15, 10:20
Hi Batou75, thank you for this excellent report and all your effort. It is not too long because it has so much info, names and a few personal notes I did find interesting.
Just a few remarks.
German from Berlin.
Don't remember her name. Said she was the only one from Berlin there. Said she only works part time a few days at a time. Dyed blond Mid / late 20 ties, tattoos writings down her side, brand new way to big sillies, I had to promise to be gentle with them. Normally not my style. But there just was something about her that made me trust her, very easy to talk to, also made me talk very straight forward, so I asked for kissing and GFE, first time I uttered the words girl friend experience to a working girl she laughed and said is that's all?
In the room, light DFK, DATY, but when it got interesting and she got very wet she stopped me. Of to blow job multiple positions, she asked for anal, she said she wanted to cum, but did not come from pussy, I declined, finished at around 40 minutes, we talked for 20 minutes, very cool woman, no bullshitting. Gave me tips about my kissing, apparently I could do better. We talked about why I did not do CIM and anal, role-play, feet fetish as most guys, apparently do. My wallet regretted this conversation later on. Said I was very nice guy but a little to slow, I think she meant she preferred someone with a little more outgoing personality. Very refreshing. Very nice session.
I don't know about the service, but from your description of her looks and her outspoken but friendly personality this could very well be JANA. Maybe have a look at the Artemis website to tell if I am right or wrong. There is one picture of Jana and Nadja. Jana is the one sitting on the floor, the picture was taken a little more than a year ago and before the recent boob job.
You also mentioned a dark haired 'Amalia from Iran'. AFAIK Amalia is a Romanian blonde very athletic MILF so you either got the name wrong or there has been a change.
Chyeanne? Not sure it spelled correct. Ukraine / turkey.
Pissed off from the last encounter I did yet an another mistake, picked this blonde by the name, Chyenne I t sounded like. Asked the same questions, got a yes. Walking up the stairs I realised this was not the same girl mentioned as a solid performer. Again everything was a no go, even touching breasts Just told her to blow me, and let her do so with no intention off cumming, after a while she caught on, she said 2 min left are you going to cum? I looked at her watch, I had 7 minutes left. I said to her, maybe, keep going I still have time. And man she got pissed, screamed at me saying the time was up, checked my own watch and I was right. Got the feeling I had pressed my luck, so we left, no talk or pleasantry where exchange when money changed hands.
In hindsight this was pretty much an asshole move on my part, and now I feel a tiny tiny bit sorry for her.
I am quite sure this was not 'Chayenne', a very slim dark haired German Ukrainian woman with silicone boobs. Her beautiful face has been compared to actress Anne Hathaway in the past and she is one of the best performers I know (of course YMMV as always).
There is one blonde 'Sheenya' and another dark haired 'Sheenay'. If it was one of those two, I don't know. I personally find the names confusing sometimes but I also try to get them right because then it is much easier to know who to ask for and also finding reports on those.
You wrote you were close to going with Nadja. Why didn't you if I might ask?
Batou please keep up the good work!
Diplomat.
FormulaOneFan
07-21-15, 12:30
Bayou,
I really appreciated your report as well. I was at Artemis last night and am planning a return tonight.
Was Ella (RUS) blondish with a round face, natural be / see cups and a little on the thicker side (but not fat)? If so I agree with your statement as I sessioned with her last night. Asked for sure and sensual and it was a great time.
I also went to the room with a petite girl from Dominican republic (forgot name, good service) and a sandy blonde ro that was ok.
TheSquirrel
07-21-15, 15:22
Went to Artemis as a first timer and somewhat new to the pay for play scene and was amazed. I couldn't help from giggling to myself as I was sitting in the lounge on a Sunday afternoon and seeing so many beautiful and personable girls simply walking around naked.
I did encounter some a couple rude girls when I said that I needed to rest and recover. One thicker Turkish girl called me boring as she walked away. It seemed the pressure to sell themselves increased during the evening.
At one point there were like 15 guys and 30 to 50 girls. It was so surreal, I felt like a Roman emperor.
I wish I had remembered the girls names better, but my brain was busy absorbing all the eye candy and trying not to be nervous.
I went with a exotic looking (for me all least) girl from Turkey, I think. She looked very classy and welcomed me when I first arrived. She was nice, but as I was getting to know her, her feet odor came across to me and turned me off. Plus she had to be a little careful with her boobs as she got a boon job 2 months ago.
My second session was with a taller German girl who came over to me in the lounge (I forgot her name). She had beautiful angel wings on her back and a German expression about being close to her heart under one of her boobs. She was amazing! Very relaxed and sweet. I felt very comfortable with her and she really provided GFE experience. We talked some which helped calm me down a bit and we really seemed to click. Stayed with her for 1 hour, no upsells just pure fun. By the way, her feet did not stink. LOL. I'm not a foot fetish guy, but I like to give a massage to my girl and explore her body.
Visited the saunas and hot tub and had some dinner. The food was better than I expected. Normal German type food. Although later in the evening the kitchen ran out of some of the items that were available earlier.
My 3rd try was going to be my pick to I camped in the lounge and checked out the girls. I really wanted to go withe the girl with the gun tattoo on her right hip, but she seemed not interested when I tried to get her attention. She had the best boobs in the place and smoking hot body with a pretty face.
Since I like smaller and thin girls, I decided to try and chase down a real tall, but thin blonde walking around gracefully. She was from Romania and was 178 cm tall and weighed 47 kg and I didn't see any tattoos. She was nice but not too into it. Her face is not my type but she had an interesting and artistic body to me. Gave a weak hand job probably because she had little muscle tone to her, but she had a tight puss.
Overall the place is indeed a boy's dream. And yes I felt like a little kid in a candy store. After the entrance fee, 1 bar cocktail, 2 30 minute sessions and a 1 hour session, my wallet was on cardiac arrest for the day.
Not sure if I'll come back this trip, but it is a place I would like to come back to again and bring a wingman.
Member #4347
07-21-15, 16:42
Hi thanks for your report. If you come back, I recommend asking for the girls names afterwards and taking a note so that you will be able to include those names into your report.
I am not sure about the names of the girls you went with, only one name I know for sure because of the tattoos fit and so does the rest of your description.
My second session was with a taller German girl who came over to me in the lounge (I forgot her name). She had beautiful angel wings on her back and a German expression about being close to her heart under one of her boobs. She was amazing! Very relaxed and sweet. I felt very comfortable with her and she really provided GFE experience. We talked some which helped calm me down a bit and we really seemed to click. Stayed with her for 1 hour, no upsells just pure fun. By the way, her feet did not stink. LOL. I'm not a foot fetish guy, but I like to give a massage to my girl and explore her body.
Her name is Nadja.
Could you describe the service in more detail? Especially the GFE experience. Thank you.
Member #4449
07-21-15, 17:29
I don't know about the service, but from your description of her looks and her outspoken but friendly personality this could very well be JANA. Maybe have a look at the Artemis website to tell if I am right or wrong. There is one picture of Jana and Nadja. Jana is the one sitting on the floor, the picture was taken a little more than a year ago and before the recent boob job.Might be Jana, I though I heard Diana at one point but was not sure. She said she has a regular job on the outside, and only works Artemis, at holidays etc and only a few days at a time.
You also mentioned a dark haired 'Amalia from Iran'. AFAIK Amalia is a Romanian blonde very athletic MILF so you either got the name wrong or there has been a change.Amalia or Amira, no tattoos, dark hair down to her back, said she was 25, nice light brown skin, looked amazing all oiled up, smaller natural beautiful breasts. Said she has Iranian heritage, but that sounds awful close to Romanian, but raised in Germany, lives in hamburg, shares an apartment with the blond Mariella. Works 2 weeks at a time then she goes home for 2 weeks, and had worked at Artemis for 2 years, was always there at opening time, sitting at the front of the bar closest to the entrance. Was very busy, went upstairs almost constantly, even when it was slow for others.
There is one blonde 'Sheenya' and another dark haired 'Sheenay'. If it was one of those two, I don't know. I personally find the names confusing sometimes but I also try to get them right because then it is much easier to know who to ask for and also finding reports on those.She was blonde small tits so must be Sheenya.
You wrote you were close to going with Nadja. Why didn't you if I might ask?Frankly the silicon breasts all the tattoos and her serious face intimidated me. Also blondes is normally not my thing, but she is strikingly beautiful.
Batou please keep up the good work!Thanks for the positive feedback!
TheSquirrel
07-21-15, 17:32
Her name is Nadja.
Could you describe the service in more detail? Especially the GFE experience. Thank you.OK sure. Well since I am a bit shy and new to this scene I was a little nervous and excited. To help me overcome shyness on my part I started giving her a massage while getting to know her. We talked about where we came from and she told me her vacation plans. We had a nice easygoing but real conversation with some laughs. After she was all relaxed and feeling good and safe with me, we changed focus towards me. She stroked me caringly while laying down next to me. I sucked on her tits and fingered her clit. Her feet were even playing with my feet some. After getting me worked up, she suggested doggy and I obliged. I went in deep and was done in a couple minutes. She felt tight, but I am not 100% sure if she was using a finger to assist in making it tighter.
Afterward she smoked a cigarette, even offered one to me, and we talked some more. When she was done, we ended the session.
Later on I even saw her cuddling up on the couch outside by the pool with someone for a while. She speaks very good English and was easy for me to get along with.
Member #4449
07-21-15, 17:40
Bayou,
Was Ella (RUS) blondish with a round face, natural be / see cups and a little on the thicker side (but not fat)? If so I agree with your statement as I sessioned with her last night. Asked for sure and sensual and it was a great time.No, Ella is Russian and blonde, hair down to her neck, very slim, very big enhanced breasts, slight overbite, same as me so our teeth keept crashing together, more of a woman then a girl. I believe she has worked at Artemis for a long time, only saw her Wednesday and Thursday.
Just going to add a question to the regulars at Artemis here.
Why is Jolene mentioned not here, I do not think I have ever seen a report on her. This Hungarian goddess has worked there for 7 years. She has used the name Ruby in the past, is it because she quite literally is a MILF?
You also mentioned a dark haired 'Amalia from Iran'. AFAIK Amalia is a Romanian blonde very athletic MILF so you either got the name wrong or there has been a change.Amalia is Romanian, fake tits, quite correct. But follow the tracks, Mr. Diplomat. Mr. Batou75 has layed down a notable mark. Here it is:
Amalia, and MariellaIt should ring your bell, right? Maybe AMINA?
Member #4347
07-21-15, 21:06
Might be Jana, I though I heard Diana at one point but was not sure. She said she has a regular job on the outside, and only works Artemis, at holidays etc and only a few days at a time.
Amalia or Amira, no tattoos, dark hair down to her back, said she was 25, nice light brown skin, looked amazing all oiled up, smaller natural beautiful breasts. Said she has Iranian heritage, but that sounds awful close to Romanian, but raised in Germany, lives in hamburg, shares an apartment with the blond Mariella. Works 2 weeks at a time then she goes home for 2 weeks, and had worked at Artemis for 2 years, was always there at opening time, sitting at the front of the bar closest to the entrance. Was very busy, went upstairs almost constantly, even when it was slow for others.
She was blonde small tits so must be Sheenya.
Frankly the silicon breasts all the tattoos and her serious face intimidated me. Also blondes is normally not my thing, but she is strikingly beautiful.
Thanks for the positive feedback!Jana is German and Diana is Romanian. Jana has new silicone boobs, Diana has natural breasts.
The German Iranian girl you met must have been Amina. Amalia and Amira are different girls. And thank you Pharisaer for your remark which is quite useful as always.
I agree with you about Nadja. To me, she is one of the most gorgeous women around in a place where we can already find many beauties.
Member #4347
07-21-15, 21:13
OK sure. Well since I am a bit shy and new to this scene I was a little nervous and excited. To help me overcome shyness on my part I started giving her a massage while getting to know her. We talked about where we came from and she told me her vacation plans. We had a nice easygoing but real conversation with some laughs. After she was all relaxed and feeling good and safe with me, we changed focus towards me. She stroked me caringly while laying down next to me. I sucked on her tits and fingered her clit. Her feet were even playing with my feet some. After getting me worked up, she suggested doggy and I obliged. I went in deep and was done in a couple minutes. She felt tight, but I am not 100% sure if she was using a finger to assist in making it tighter.
Afterward she smoked a cigarette, even offered one to me, and we talked some more. When she was done, we ended the session.
Later on I even saw her cuddling up on the couch outside by the pool with someone for a while. She speaks very good English and was easy for me to get along with.Thank you. Yes you can have a great time with that girl and it looks like you did. Just because you mentioned 'GFE experience' I would add that for me, a full GFE experience would include kissing and mostly DFK. Maybe you had that or you didn't but I believe its all a matter of what words we choose to describe a good experience.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
Member #4449
07-21-15, 21:27
Jana is German and Diana is Romanian. Jana has new silicone boobs, Diana has natural breasts.I miss worded myself here, I know Diana is another, girl. But what she said sounded like Diana, and since I knew the name from the forums, that is what my brain associated with what I heard. I think a lot of that goes around here. You read to many names on the forum and when the girls introduce them self all the similar names, or names sounds a little bit different in different languages gets associated with what you already know, same thing with Amalia, Amina, and Chyanne.
TheSquirrel
07-23-15, 19:48
Well, I had one last whole day in Berlin and even though I went out of my way to visit a respected brothel in the afternoon, I couldn't keep Artemis out of mind. So I jumped on the S bahn and got there around 5 pm. Since it was my 2nd visit, I knew what to expect and had a little more confidence.
I went in with all intentions of remembering the girls names and details, but after seeing 4 girls there plus 1 earlier in the day, my man juice was completely drained and I forgot many details by the time I was able to make notes.
I'll do my best.
1st session- Jessica (said Romania, but also something about Italian) She looks more like Brazilian or some other south American. Short girl with medium length brown / reddish hair. Very fun and playful. She was nice, talkative, not shy and really wanted to please me. She was actually disappointed when she was on me cowgirl and I finished super early. Provided light kisses and looked me in the eyes while going at it. Definitely a fun and pleasing girl.
2nd session. Can't remember her name or too many physical details, probably because I had such a funny time with her. Romanian girl, I think, MILF body with nice natural cup boobies and dark hair. I don't remember any tattoos. I think she told me she's worked there for 6 years. To me she looks a little Persian, but I can be totally wrong. She comes by my table and brings me watermelon and scarfs down her food quickly which was impressive on its own. We sit and chat and even though I was eyeballing some other girls, she was so friendly and goofy that I could not pass. On the to taking me to one of the poolside rooms, she plays a joke on one of the Asian guests and says "boo" to try and startle him from behind. She said that she likes to do that to the Asians. In the bedroom, she is funny, silly and a little nutty, but in a good way. We clicked and I felt very comfortable with her. She was very eager to please and a good companion if you like to have fun and be a little zany.
3rd session. Linda. A taller, girl next door type from Slovakia. She wore glasses in the club, but I think they were for show. Worked for me! Longer natural blonde with natural be cups. Was super sweet to me but didn't speak English too well. She would be the type I would date. Good service but my equipment was having malfunctions so I couldn't finish. But as she was so sweet and warm, I was actually content just snuggling with her. It started to rain hard and it was quite romantic. I asked to extend to 1 he but she said that she had to go as her shift was done. She said she doesn't work all the time, just occasionally.
At this time it was 1 am and I figured I was done. Took a nap on the couch at the bottom of the stairs. A few of my previous girls came by to check on me and see if I wanted more. I had to decline, because I really thought I was done. One girl I was with last Sunday found me and remembered me. (Tall skinny blonde).
4th girl. I think Jolene? 25 from Hungary. Shorter girl with copper tan skin, dark hair and a nice toned body. She was able to convince me to go at 4 am as I thought, "this is my last day here, why not. " I warned her that I didn't think I had enough power to get it up or release, but she proved me wrong. She bounced in my lap so well and had super good technique for cowgirl. She also has very good conversational English skills and is down to earth. Told me that she doesn't work all the time, just a few weeks here and there. She is very clean with her work area, which I greatly respect. She had hand sanitizer and baby wipes for pre and post session. Very lovely girl that I respect and recommend highly.
Well not sure if I'm coming back to Berlin soon, perhaps in the next few weeks. If I do though, I know that it will be futile to resist all the beautiful and personable girls at Artemis.
Member #4449
07-24-15, 07:30
4th girl. I think Jolene? 25 from Hungary. Shorter girl with copper tan skin, dark hair and a nice toned body. She was able to convince me to go at 4 amDoes not sound like the Jolene I have had the pleasure to meet. She is older than 25, not short, and not a teenager body anymore, also she works from 11 am to 8 pm, do not like the night time scene.
Though by this point I think the Jolene I know is a imaginary as no one else has confirmed that she exists. LOL.
Blue Swede
07-24-15, 07:44
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2nd session. Can't remember her name or too many physical details, probably because I had such a funny time with her. Romanian girl, I think, MILF body with nice natural cup boobies and dark hair. I don't remember any tattoos. I think she told me she's worked there for 6 years. To me she looks a little Persian, but I can be totally wrong. She comes by my table and brings me watermelon and scarfs down her food quickly which was impressive on its own. We sit and chat and even though I was eyeballing some other girls, she was so friendly and goofy that I could not pass. On the to taking me to one of the poolside rooms, she plays a joke on one of the Asian guests and says "boo" to try and startle him from behind. She said that she likes to do that to the Asians. In the bedroom, she is funny, silly and a little nutty, but in a good way. We clicked and I felt very comfortable with her. She was very eager to please and a good companion if you like to have fun and be a little zany.I would be (very) surprised if it isn't Solida you met!
TheSquirrel
07-24-15, 17:41
I would be (very) surprised if it isn't Solida you met!I think you're absolutely correct. That name rings a bell to me now.
I'm in Frankfurt now and before artemis, I thought the some girls in the laufhaus places were good and fun. Now I realize how much better an experience can be when the girl is motivated to make you a repeat customer. There are a very few really hot girls here, but I think that once they get you in the door and your pants down they loose motivation to please.
Should I make a day trip to one of the FKK's around here?
Though by this point I think the Jolene I know is a imaginary as no one else has confirmed that she exists. LOL.The Hungarian Joleen / Jolene you know exists. I confirm that. Remember, that's her third nom de plume in Artemis.
Hey,
I'm really into these 2 girls. Are they both active in Artemis for the moment? Any of them?Anyone knows if they are there? Then I'm likely to go soon.
Member #4347
07-24-15, 21:35
4th girl. I think Jolene? 25 from Hungary. Shorter girl with copper tan skin, dark hair and a nice toned body. She was able to convince me to go at 4 am as I thought, "this is my last day here, why not. " I warned her that I didn't think I had enough power to get it up or release, but she proved me wrong. She bounced in my lap so well and had super good technique for cowgirl. She also has very good conversational English skills and is down to earth. Told me that she doesn't work all the time, just a few weeks here and there. She is very clean with her work area, which I greatly respect. She had hand sanitizer and baby wipes for pre and post session. Very lovely girl that I respect and recommend highly.Well not sure if I'm coming back to Berlin soon, perhaps in the next few weeks. If I do though, I know that it will be futile to resist all the beautiful and personable girls at Artemis.Jolene or Joleen who I knew years ago as 'Evelyn' says she is Hungarian (which could be correct ofc) but I don't believe anyone would believe her to be a 25 year old girl. She is clearly a MILF and if she says she is 25 then be sure she has been that age for a few years now.
Maybe it was Laureen. The name may sound similar to the Joleen, she is Hungarian, dark hair and her age is much closer to 25 than Joleen's. At least the description fits her. She does not have a hard body she is more on the feminine side but I love her amazing eyes. And she is a skilled conversationist too.
Artemis girls names make me crazy.
They should carry business cards in their handbags so that you can remember their names. Nerdy but practical and much more efficient than the guessing game.
Loreen, Hungarian, looks 10, performance 10.
Wow! I have not engaged her before because she seemed so cold. I could not have been more wrong. Her face is absolutely stunning and her body is aswell. In the room she is relaxed and quite the lover. She is also relaxed when you meet her in the bar och lounge. If you are at the Artemis, do catch her. I have been going for five years and she is without competition the best girl still active.
Xenia, Moroccan / German, looks 10, performance 2.
Xenia is a nice girl. She has a pistol tattoo on her hip. In the room she is like a robot. Very pleasant and kind but not my type since I need a good performer. Definitely an opti-flic.
Sarah, Spain, looks 10, performance 10.
Could not ask for more in the room but afterwards I found out from the other girls that she trash-talked me because I did not give her tip. A real *****.
Alev (Turkish): Did approach my friend sometimes and when he politely said no she called him motherfucker and other nasty things. She is a ***** and should not be allowed to work there.
Amira (Morrocan): Same as Alev. Rude as fuck and a total *****. Should not be allowed to work at Artemis.
The reception: Very good and kind.
The bar downstaris: Excellent.
The bar upstairs: Clueless.
Member #4347
07-25-15, 20:29
Xenia, Moroccan / German, looks 10, performance 2.
Xenia is a nice girl. She has a pistol tattoo on her hip. In the room she is like a robot. Very pleasant and kind but not my type since I need a good performer. Definitely an opti-flic.
The beautiful German Moroccan girl who is approx. 5 ft. 8 inches tall, light dark skin, has medium size silicone boobs and a few tattoos is called Sina or Zina.
Xenia is someone else and the real Xenia has also been described on here a few times already.
It may sound similar but please guys try to get the correct names. I am not trying to be picky here but let them spell their names and take a note immediately after you paid them. Not being precise about the names makes the search function and much of the information on here a mess confusing people.
Some people put a lot of effort in these reports and I love reading and sometimes writing those but we all have to remember that even basic things like the girls name are wrong a lot of the times in these reports. Remembering this fact is quite important especially for those who try to make a science out of it, putting together lists of the girls etc.
The other names Simon Rex has mentioned seem to be correct. I also found Simons report useful but I personally wouldn't give so many girls a 10 for their looks. I know its highly subjective, but for me only a few girls at Artemis would get a 9 or a 10 if 10 is the maximum. Not against you personally Simon.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
B. What is the policy for alcoholic drinks? I think I read one post that said you are only allowed three alcoholic drinks. I'm not looking to get rip-roaring drunk but would like to know.
What the restrictions are.
Thank you. I'll post my report soon!
Buck Rogers
07-26-15, 21:01
I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
Without starting a debate on tips since everybody can do what they want with their money, my opinion is that tips cannot be expected per se and if you want you can avoid tipping. Personally I would (in case) only tip if the service is very good and by very good I mean a complete GFE. But don't feel guilty or something for not tipping. I received requests for tipping after mediocre services. My answer was prrrr!
At Simon Rex or others that know: As for Laureen/Loreen from Hungary, anybody knows when she starts working, for example afternoon or evening?
Cheers.
Buck.
I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
B. What is the policy for alcoholic drinks? I think I read one post that said you are only allowed three alcoholic drinks. I'm not looking to get rip-roaring drunk but would like to know.
What the restrictions are.
Thank you. I'll post my report soon!That's an interesting question I'd like to know others opinions.
I think that like for every tip it's matter on how much you are satisfied and if you are going to meet the same girl soon but some may consider the CIM a sort tip from the "base" service.
I usually do not ask for the change back and I never gave less the 20 E as tip and also I've gave 100 E for 30 min to the good ones.
About the alcohol never heard of any restrictions until you pay the tokens for the drinks (and none will ask you how many you had) and for what I've seen you have to be very drunk before to be stopped.
That's an interesting question I'd like to know others opinions.
I think that like for every tip it's matter on how much you are satisfied and if you are going to meet the same girl soon but some may consider the CIM a sort tip from the "base" service.
I usually do not ask for the change back and I never gave less the 20 E as tip and also I've gave 100 E for 30 min to the good ones.
About the alcohol never heard of any restrictions until you pay the tokens for the drinks (and none will ask you how many you had) and for what I've seen you have to be very drunk before to be stopped.Yes, that's great information. Thanks to you and Buck Rogers as well.
I was not referring to the CIM type of tip. I'm thinking about whether to offer an extra amount after she is fully paid for the time and extras. Sounds like 20 euros is a good start.
I usually do not ask for the change back and I never gave less the 20 E as tip and also I've gave 100 E for 30 min to the good ones.Hi all,
Please do not give tips for a regular service. We, the guys from Berlin, hate it when foreigners do that, it's not good for the ratio of service and rate.
If the service is okay, give her 60 Euro for the 30 Minutes. If it was really very good, give her 10 Euro extra. But not more.
At Simon Rex or others that know: As for Laureen/Loreen from Hungary, anybody knows when she starts working, for example afternoon or evening?She told me she usually start at 7 pm and stay until 5 am.
Hi all,
Please do not give tips for a regular service. We, the guys from Berlin, hate it when foreigners do that, it's not good for the ratio of service and rate.
I agree. Staying longer than 30 minutes is tip enough. Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. Even Sasha was grumpy. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.
Hi,
Going to Artemis next weekend, are there any petite girls there (spinner type girls) recommended one also like sloppy blowjob so anybody recommend the best blowjob at Artemis thanks.
I agree. Staying longer than 30 minutes is tip enough. Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. Even Sasha was grumpy. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.I was bit surprised that you were trash talked by a girl for not giving her tip (referring to your earlier post). I am no expert when it comes to FKK scene (only had 25-30 sessions in Artemis so far) but this is the first time I heard something like this (guess I am trash talked a lot then).
I agree that the Artemis seems worse than it was. As I said, I don't have massive experience with the place, I have only been there on three occasions (December last year, April and last week). Could be that the place has lost its novelty to me too.
Last week I saw a girl getting irritated when she was ignored by a punter on his way to the cantina (which by the way was full of flies. Not nice.). Despite the guy obviously not being interested in a session (and giving the proper signals), she screamed "Hello,. Helloooo! After him. Fortunately for me as I was interested in trying her out but this made me save my money.
Talked to the guy I mentioned above later on and he pointed me to a wonderful Colombian lady instead (Lorena?) which normally would not be my choice. Fantastic service (proper massage followed by sex) - will definitely repeat. Unfortunately she will be away next two weeks.
Tried also a girl named Simeona (Simona? Unsure about her name) - session was OK, but did not leave any lasting expression. May repeat if no other option available.
For those that are fans of the glorious Jenna (which should be tried out if you are noob like me, regardless of what your preferences are) - she is away from Artemis until the August 30th.
Talked to the guy I mentioned above later on and he pointed me to a wonderful Colombian lady instead (Lorena?) which normally would not be my choice. Fantastic service (proper massage followed by sex) - will definitely repeat. Unfortunately she will be away next two weeks.
Sounds like Valentina. I met her in April, and I am inclined to agree about the service. Great body-to-body massage, and good sex. What I didn't like was her insistence, as soon as we were in the room, to go for her "special program". She did not seem at all interested in giving good service for a standard 30 minute vanilla session, I "had to at least" go for her 40 minute /100 Euro. Now, as I said, her service was good. And she is hot, as well as interesting to talk to (athletic stories, too). But I guess I shouldn't have accepted her special terms, as this practise can pervert the pricing structure in Artemis, if it continues / spreads. My bad. . .
Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.Art is getting some negative reviews. And nothing wrong with that as it's what the forum is all about. Sharing experiences. I do think the club suffers from the lack of competition. It is clear that in NRW and Hessen the competition maintains quality in the clubs. When one starts to dip and numbers go down, they always seem to do something to get it back there. No such issue for the management at Art. The threatened new FKK in Potsdam appears to have bitten the dust. I have no idea if the management at Artemis read this forum. If they do the following should be noted: 80 is too expensive as entry. It is THE most expensive in Germany so far as I know. The food needs to improve. The massage area should be private and not on beds by the pool and bar. Stop the silly drink tokens and get one of the FOB systems used in Sharks where you run a tab and pay at the end instead of having to carry tokens in your robe. Get some themed rooms like in Sharks. A domination room, all mirrored room, and a VIP suite (I believe they have these on the roof area but I've never been up there). Some beers should be free. As in World and LR in NRW. Finally. Get the message to the girls about sharky behaviour. Wanting to charge extra for literally everything other than suck and fuck.
Recently (June) compared Artemis with Oase, Sharks and World. See long post: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1737540&viewfull=1#post1737540.
I then rated Artemis above all of these clubs (having visited them all in one week). This was only 10 weeks ago! Whilst my above criticisms are things I'd love to see improve, the truth is that the club has several features that beat other clubs. A great gym. I know you don't go there for that but it's a nice way to relax in between sessions, the hammam, the food is sometimes good, the outdoor area is ok in summer, and the girls I did session with were better than the LU in Frankfurt clubs even if there are 100+ in Sharks and Oase. So it's not all bad at Art!
Now. If you are a regular at the Club (Diplomat / Rocketboy and others) is there no possibility that perhaps you bring some of the concerns to the attention of the management for the benefit of the Club and its users? You would be doing them, and the mongers, a big favour. I do know that this happened at one of the NRW clubs and service did quickly improve and some ideas taken on board.
In terms of LU. And I know everyone's taste differs, could the regulars to Art list maybe the 5 most popular girls in their opinion and how to recognise them as well as names, and maybe tell the rest of us which girls are due to be away during summer? Disappointing to know Lorena is away for 2 weeks as I'm back in the Club weekend of 7/8 August.
I think a number of guys would appreciate a current review of the girls and who is leaving for summer from the regulars. Hope you can help us out guys!
A Stop the silly drink tokens and get one of the FOB systems used in Sharks where you run a tab and pay at the end instead of having to carry tokens in your robe. Yeah totally agree its stupid to buy drink tokens and 10 E for a beer is way too expensive. I still haven't had a beer at Sharks but 6 E is much more reasonable 5 E sure would boost sales and the system is so much convenient.
Art is getting some negative reviews. And nothing wrong with that as it's what the forum is all about. Sharing experiences. I do think the club suffers from the lack of competition. It is clear that in NRW and Hessen the competition maintains quality in the clubs. When one starts to dip and numbers go down, they always seem to do something to get it back there. No such issue for the management at Art. The threatened new FKK in Potsdam appears to have bitten the dust. I have no idea if the management at Artemis read this forum. If they do the following should be noted: 80 is too expensive as entry. It is THE most expensive in Germany so far as I know. The food needs to improve. The massage area should be private and not on beds by the pool and bar. Stop the silly drink tokens and get one of the FOB systems used in Sharks where you run a tab and pay at the end instead of having to carry tokens in your robe. Get some themed rooms like in Sharks. A domination room, all mirrored room, and a VIP suite (I believe they have these on the roof area but I've never been up there). Some beers should be free. As in World and LR in NRW. Finally. Get the message to the girls about sharky behaviour. Wanting to charge extra for literally everything other than suck and fuck.
Recently (June) compared Artemis with Oase, Sharks and World. See long post: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1737540&viewfull=1#post1737540.
I then rated Artemis above all of these clubs (having visited them all in one week). This was only 10 weeks ago! Whilst my above criticisms are things I'd love to see improve, the truth is that the club has several features that beat other clubs. A great gym. I know you don't go there for that but it's a nice way to relax in between sessions, the hammam, the food is sometimes good, the outdoor area is ok in summer, and the girls I did session with were better than the LU in Frankfurt clubs even if there are 100+ in Sharks and Oase. So it's not all bad at Art!
Now. If you are a regular at the Club (Diplomat / Rocketboy and others) is there no possibility that perhaps you bring some of the concerns to the attention of the management for the benefit of the Club and its users? You would be doing them, and the mongers, a big favour. I do know that this happened at one of the NRW clubs and service did quickly improve and some ideas taken on board.Well "the food is sometimes good" kind of covers what I think about the food. Early in the morning it is OK (motel standard), while lunch mostly sucks and I suspect that food that remains after the day is over is being "reused" for next days lunch. I ate two times at artemis (and both times felt unwell in stomach afterwords) and then followed kind advice from fellow punters and went out to the nearby restaurants and fast food places. Remember that you can leave your locker key with reception and return later without paying entrance once again (don't remove the colored plastic ribbon ofc).
While I have no complaints regarding lineup (since I have nothing to compare it to) - it seems all body types are present, it really irks me that the website is kind of worthless. You got plenty pictures of girls that are not really that great in many cases and where the girl is no longer working in Artemis. I don't know what system they got in Artemis now regarding the pool of girls but I believe that they could make a system where you can see which girl is present or not. For example, many brothels operate with schedule systems where you can see when a certain girl is onsite or on vacation.
Sounds like Valentina. I met her in April, and I am inclined to agree about the service. Great body-to-body massage, and good sex. What I didn't like was her insistence, as soon as we were in the room, to go for her "special program". She did not seem at all interested in giving good service for a standard 30 minute vanilla session, I "had to at least" go for her 40 minute /100 Euro. Now, as I said, her service was good. And she is hot, as well as interesting to talk to (athletic stories, too). But I guess I shouldn't have accepted her special terms, as this practise can pervert the pricing structure in Artemis, if it continues / spreads. My bad. . .Valentina? I would have remembered that name. The lady in question is late 30's, early 40's. When I first saw her I though she was from Asia. Great body with silicone boobs (nicely done). With high heels 170 cm of height.
CDNTraveler
07-28-15, 03:42
I will be visiting Berlin and would like to visit Artemis but I have heard both good and bad reports about the place.
I have hesitations about going to a place as I will surely (most likely) be seen as a:
•*Novice to the FKK scene.
•*Foreigner.
Both of which I am.
I have read on these forums that you want to talk with the girl beforehand. Make sure we're all play by the same set of rules and agreed upon service.
But then walking into the room you get a different story etc.*etc.*etc.*.
One can only get so much advice from these forums before you have enter yourself.
How does one who is completely new to this not get completely taken advantage of?
I will be visiting Berlin and would like to visit Artemis but I have heard both good and bad reports about the place.
I have hesitations about going to a place as I will surely (most likely) be seen as a:
*Novice to the FKK scene.
*Foreigner.
Both of which I am.
I have read on these forums that you want to talk with the girl beforehand. Make sure we're all play by the same set of rules and agreed upon service.
But then walking into the room you get a different story etc.*etc.*etc.*.
One can only get so much advice from these forums before you have enter yourself.
How does one who is completely new to this not get completely taken advantage of?Hello CDNTraveler.
I remember my first time at Artemis. I walked in, got changed and then went to the bar for a drink. I picked a seat far away from the bar and watched the girls approach me. Then I took my time to chat each one up as they sat on the couch beside me. Many will jump right on your lap and reach in your robe and fish for your member. The girls that are the most impatient and want to sell you a good time, you probably want to avoid on the first go round. Don't worry. Take mental notes of her and ask for her name. She will come back. That I promise. Many girls will even come to you in pairs and sell you a threesome. If you play it cool, you will be fine. However, if you walk around and look like you haven't been laid in months, then they can upsell you whatever they are selling and you will pay dearly with poor service. Before my fist trip to Artemis, I had made several tours to Prague and other cities. I was not going in uninitiated.
About Artemis. I used to visit annually, but I have noticed that the looks and the quality of the girls had gone down, compared to Frankfurt clubs. That is just my opinion and personal preference. However, I am also reading reports that there are new girls there now. Artemis has no immediate FKK competition, so therefore the girls can get away with a bit more. The last time I was there I found only a handful of girls who were worth taking upstairs to the rooms. Many others were hounding me, thinking I am still a rookie at this game. Of course you are the paying customer, so you should call all the shots. The bar area is the place to observe the girls. Another good place is the spiral staircase. Stand there, and watch for the facial expression of other men as they take the girls to the money locker. If they look pissed, then don't pick that girl. If they look extremely satisfied, make a note of that girl and choose her later. I like going to Artemis to collect flags. There should be many countries represented there. Take the time and find out where each girl is from. Romanians will often represent themselves as Greeks or Italians. Learn to speak a few words in Romanian and test them. It is fun, believe me.
Read the reports on this forum and report the girls that you like. That helps everybody out. If you are daring, sit in one of the kinos (porno movie rooms). The girls will walk right up to you and start giving you the BBBJ. It is a public place, so it may be too much for a first-timer such as yourself. However, you can sit in there and observe. That is part of the fun. Now if you want to avoid the cigarette smoke and the aggressive girls, you can hide in the dining room or downstairs by the pool and saunas. There is a full service bar downstairs too. Often times you need an area of refuge. Last bit of advice. If a girl attempts to cheat you, don't be afraid to take her to speak to the manager at the front desk. Fortunately for me, I have never had to. If you pre-screen the girls properly, much like her having to apply for a job and you're the boss, then I think you will be fine.
Good luck!
FiddyCent.
ZimmerBaby
07-28-15, 13:29
The majority of the girls were honest performers. They are probably suffering from the behaviour initiated by the bad apples. After all, the crew of Artemis show no interest in cleaning up this mess, the ladies in the reception have a superficial approach to the subject, by the time you are about to leave the place asking costumers "are you ok?" with lack of interest in their eyes and voice. I think it is the task for this board to identify the poisonous from the good ones.
I have a break from the place, probably due to extensive number of visits and overfucking. Just one time during those five years have a met a girl with her own alternative price list;.
Simai GER / TUR 25 years, 160 cm, thin, teenage body, long black hair, looks more latino than ottoman.
Kissing + 50.
Rimming her + 50.
Fingering her ass + 50 (no discount, rimming, fingering and fucking her back door 200 E).
Also demanding tip several times during the session.
In the locker area I paid her 50 cent as a tip. I will never forget her fascial expression.
CDNTraveler
07-29-15, 04:03
Hello CDNTraveler.
Read the reports on this forum and report the girls that you like. That helps everybody out. If you are daring, sit in one of the kinos (porno movie rooms). The girls will walk right up to you and start giving you the BBBJ. It is a public place, so it may be too much for a first-timer such as yourself. However, you can sit in there and observe. That is part of the fun. Now if you want to avoid the cigarette smoke and the aggressive girls, you can hide in the dining room or downstairs by the pool and saunas. There is a full service bar downstairs too. Often times you need an area of refuge. Last bit of advice. If a girl attempts to cheat you, don't be afraid to take her to speak to the manager at the front desk. Fortunately for me, I have never had to. If you pre-screen the girls properly, much like her having to apply for a job and you're the boss, then I think you will be fine.
Good luck!
FiddyCent.Thanks Fiddy Cent for the info in general. I was also wondering if wearing a watch and checking the time before a session? Or is this frowned upon?
Simai GER / TUR 25 years, 160 cm, thin, teenage body, long black hair, looks more latino than ottoman.Her looks sounds familiar but not her name. Which girls does she hang out with?
Her looks sounds familiar but not her name. Which girls does she hang out with?If that is the girl I think Zimmerbaby refers to, she has a boob job (very easy to see) and during the last week she was often with GER blonde Madeleine and they sat by the bar chairs that are immediately visible when you enter the place.
And while we are mentioning Madeline (GER, blonde, natural boobs, tattoo that looks like latin writing), a german punter recommended her (and I do love next door girl blondes) but I never got the chance to try her out. I left her for later while I tried out a certain Colombian lady but later on she was busy.
Anyone tried her out? I can't seem to find reviews on her and my budget is too tight to waste it on mediocre performance.
ZimmerBaby
07-29-15, 20:22
Her looks sounds familiar but not her name. Which girls does she hang out with?Think she is a lonely wolf / shark. Imagine the turkish Nelly Furtado.
Think she is a lonely wolf / shark. Imagine the turkish Nelly Furtado.Simai / Simei a loney shark? I don't think so. Usually sitting at the left side of the bar (seen from the main entrance). Note: recently fake tits.
ZimmerBaby
07-29-15, 20:48
Note: recently fake tits.Disaster. I am the opposite of king Midas. Everything I touch becomes shit. Hopefully Turkey will never get membership in the EU.
ClitTeaser
07-29-15, 21:26
Thanks for all of the information in this post. I visited Artemis last August and enjoyed myself. I agree the hard sell os off putting but that's life.
Anyway what I wanted to ask was this: compared to last year is Artemis that much worse. Is it better to go elsewhere these days.
Thanks for your opinion.
Thanks Fiddy Cent for the info in general. I was also wondering if wearing a watch and checking the time before a session? Or is this frowned upon?Hey CDNTraveler.
I wear a watch, but take it off in the room and leave it on the counter. I peek at it, but often times I won't even look at it when the session ends. After a good session, I won't even care if it is +/- 5 minutes. Some girls will spend free time with you in the room and not charge you. Sometimes, you get free couch / kino time too. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. The girls that are in the biggest rush to get you into a room or try to get you to finish quickly are the ones that you need to avoid. Play it cool, even if she short changes you 5 minutes. If you had a good session, would you hold it against her? I think not. Better to build a good rapport. You may want to repeat with her later. I usually like to do 30 min first sessions and repeat for 1 hour sessions. Sometimes, if the flow is nice, I will extend a 30 min into a full hour on the spot, even if I know full well the first 30 minutes had not expired.
On the flip side, if you get time pressured to finish, then make her aware of the start time in the room and end the session to cut your losses. If the girl does not deliver what she promised right off the bat, you will know within the firs 5 minutes of the session. As I have mentioned before, I have never had to March a girl to the front desk to issue a challenge. The most you will lose is 60 Euros at this point. Better that than having a girl drag you down and ruin your night.
Have fun brother!
FiddyCent.
Simai / Simei a loney shark? I don't think so. Usually sitting at the left side of the bar (seen from the main entrance). Note: recently fake tits.Does she have a half sleeve tattoo on her left arm?
Septimus1974
07-30-15, 21:39
I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
B. What is the policy for alcoholic drinks? I think I read one post that said you are only allowed three alcoholic drinks. I'm not looking to get rip-roaring drunk but would like to know.
What the restrictions are.
Thank you. I'll post my report soon!As for me I always give tip to the girls, 60 euro is not much and I think you always should give some extra, it depends, sometimes 20 euro ekstra or all together 100 euro for half an hour.
But not less than 80 euro.
You can buy a ticket for alcoholic drinks in the reception.
It is finally time for Trizen, the American newbie to post my first report. I was getting worried after all the bad talk on this forum about Artemis but I am happy to say that my visit was absolutely wonderful.
Having said that, the information I learned on this forum was very valuable in making sure that I had a good night. Thanks to all the admins and regular contributors. You are all doing a great job. So here's my contribution to the cause.
I arrived on a Wednesday (yesterday) at about 8:30 pm and paid the door price (80 euros). I deposited my money in the safety box and got undressed and showered. There is a door straight from the men's locker room to the lounge, which is great. It feels very surreal to walk from the brightly lit locker room into the dark lounge with music booming.
Yes, the lounge is smoky but I really didn't mind it. I live in the USA, and my state has outlawed smoking in bars for years now, so I thought I might hate the smoke. But the filtration system must be excellent, because it didn't get to me at all. Maybe my mind was focusing on other things?
It was Wednesday, so it was lingerie night. I shouldn't call it that because only two girls were actually wearing lingerie, the rest had various forms of slutty bikinis. It was fantastic. I specifically picked Wednesday as my first day so I could come back later and see all the girls naked my next trip.
The first girl I interacted with was at the bar. Maya from Budapest, Hungary was sitting by herself at the bar and I walked up to order a drink. I gave the token to the bartender and Maya asked me to sit beside her. But I heard the powerful voices from this forum in my head "Don't go with the first girl you meet!" This was very difficult because Maya is a beauty. Short in stature, long, curly black hair, tan complexion, beautiful dark features. I mean she was totally my type. But I didn't sit there. It turned out pretty well because she didn't pester me and hard-sell or anything, just accepted. Hmmm, that's a good sign for Maya.
I walked over to the other side of the lounge and just stood for a while by one of the pillars. Here I found the sharks. One girl from Poland absolutely insisted that we go to the room right now. "I am hot and horny for you. We go now. You need Polish blow job. "Well, quite frankly this wasn't a turn on at all, no matter how beautiful she was. And she was gorgeous, but come on, I'm not falling for this. After I shooed her away the next 2-3 sharks came to me in quick succession. This was getting pretty easy. I can say no to a beautiful woman. In fact, I kinda enjoy it!
I convince myself to have a second beer to calm my nerves a bit before I venture upstairs with anyone. I notice Maya comes over to me again and asks about upstairs. I ask her to sit with me for a few minutes. She says yes. Another good sign. We talk for a while laying on one of the beds and I ask her about DFK. No, she says. No kissing at all. Hmm, that's not what I wanted to hear. Okay, so she has accepted defeat and we part ways. I do my walking-around thing, going from the spiral staircase to see the expressions of the guys coming down from the rooms (See! I read the forums! Then outside to the pool area to cool off, then back into the lounge to stare at eye-candy again. God, I'm loving this and I haven't even been with anyone yet.
I do this a few more times, including a walk past the fuck-rooms near the outdoor pool. I hear a girl howling. Nice! Back in the lounge again, I see Maya once more. It seems like she disappears and reappears (more on that later). She walks up to me while I'm talking to a German guy. He and I met in the locker room and he was asking my advice. I told him it was my first time but he had absolutely no clue so I told him what I had learned on the forums. Avoid sharks. Don't go with the first girl. By this time I've decided, kiss or no kiss, I'm going upstairs with Maya. As she is walking over I'm getting more excited. I introduce Maya to the German guy to be polite and she introduces us both to a lovely blond girl. Maya suggests that she go with the German guy and this blond girl can have me, because she will kiss. So here Maya has gone to find a girl that will be good for me. Another point for Maya. The way she says it, it sounds like she is suggesting a foursome, and the German guy and I both shake our heads and say "No No No. "But she isn't suggesting that. At this point, I tell Maya that she is the one that I want. I pull her aside and the blond girl disappears. I probably made the blond girl feel bad. So here I am, avid forum reader, going with the first girl I met. Shame on me!!
Maya and I head upstairs and the rooms are all busy. Crazy! A Wednesday night and there is a traffic jam of sex! We wait for a few minutes and learn more about each other. I won't tell you her life story but it is interesting to hear. I book an hour with CIM. We get into our room and it is a wonderful feeling. I'll say it. It felt romantic. When she took off her top I saw that her breasts, although very small, were just perfect. Lovely dark, small nipples that stood out a bit. Really nice. She took out the disinfectant and said "I need to clean my cock. It is no longer your cock, it is now mine. "Her English is very good too but with a gorgeous Magyar accent.
We started with BBBJ, which was wonderful. She is very talented. She said she had been with twenty guys already that day, which was pretty normal for her. I think with her shocking good looks and nice disposition, she probably makes a ton of money. But our session didn't feel mechanical or tired. She was caring and would speed up and slow down. She made me crazy (in a good way). I enjoyed my time with Maya. She did upsell me with the CIM before we got into the room, but I was a pretty easy sell on that one.
Maya is easily a 10 in looks and at least an 7 in performance. Since she had had so many guys by that time (10 pm maybe) her nipples were very sore and we didn't actually fuck; didn't need to. Plus she was probably sore down there too. To me this was not shark behavior though, I was perfectly happy with BBBJCIM. We talked about the other girls who rush or try to charge for every little thing. She joked "I suck one ball - 50 euros. Second ball - 50 more. " I was glad that Maya was honest about the kissing policy while we were talking in the lounge. Even to the point where she thought she might lose the deal.
Okay, so finished up with Maya, I wandered down to the bottom level to see what was there. I visited the WC on that level and walked out to see two girls were giggling at me. They informed me that I had gone into the ladies WC. Man, I was disoriented after my session with Maya! I had a good laugh too. Upstairs to get some food, which was quite good. I sat at a table with two sullen looking Romanian girls. Maybe their English was not very good, but they weren't very talkative, except to each other. Lovely to look at, though.
After eating, back to the lounge. I needed at least an hour to recover from Maya. But after that hour I encountered Adina, a German girl. Short, curly blond hair, really big boobs, super friendly. She had been joking around with the other girls on a couch next to the stage / podium. I actually slow danced with her for a few minutes in the lounge. I think she liked it and her coworkers were giving her a hard time. I decided to take Adina to the room for an hour. Wow! Adina is really nice. Her breasts uncovered are something to behold. Perfection. I was again glad that my first visit was on a Wednesday. Getting the "big reveal" is especially nice. However, on my next trip, I'm sure I will enjoy the volumes of nudity in the lounge. Back to Adina. So she took off her clothes, disinfected me (shouldn't be a turn-on, but it is), then got busy with BBBJ. Very talented girl. Then after a few minutes, she mounted me and we had fun that way. Wow, she is a fantastic girl. Adina tried valiantly to get me off but it didn't happen. Maybe too much beer or maybe Maya had completely drained me.
I loved spending time with Adina. Adina is from Mannheim in Germany. Unfortunately, she is going on holiday for a few weeks starting tomorrow so I will not see her on my return visit (s). I'd give Adina a 9 in looks and a 9 in performance. What a great girl. Giggles a lot and has a great sense of humor.
Maya and Adina both said they prefer older men to younger. They might have been saying that because I'm older but it does make sense. Young guys want to pound pussy while older guys get tired and want to snuggle. I had a great time with both of them.
Some other notes (sorry this is getting so long). I had a couple of great interactions with the guys at the club. Like I said, a couple of Germans were asking for advice, which I offered. Simple things if you had been reading the forum posts here. I also met a couple of older guys from Pakistan at the security lockers. They were clueless about the place. I told them everything I knew. They loved it. I even introduced them to some girls who I thought would be good. Maya was gone by that time, but I introduced the one guy to a Moldovan girl I met (Dadia) who was really beautiful and had been hitting on me several times. They went upstairs and everyone seemed happy. The other guy was a bit more shy. I resolved to find him a girl and suddenly a gorgeous Spanish girl came up to me and started her pitch. I redirected her to my new friend and he seemed very happy. They went upstairs and another success. I'm an Artemis matchmaker for god's sake. For some reason the girls were often swarming around me. Maybe being American or whatever. I don't know. The Pakistani guys loved it. "Look! He's like a god!" Yeah, but even gods must bring cash.
I had a fantastic time at Artemis. Yes, you need to avoid the sharks. If she rushes you in the lounge, she will rush you upstairs. Plus, you get the bonus of turning down a beautiful woman for sex. How fun is that?? Not something that I get to do in real life, that's for sure. I looked for girls who were okay with being rejected, who didn't keep pushing, pushing (like Maya). I also looked for girls who seemed to be having a fun time with the other girls rather than sharking around the place (like Adina).
To summarize, Maya from Budapest, Hungary, 32 years old (but looks 22) - 10/ looks, 7/ performance. Adina from Mannheim, Germany, 23 years old - 9/ looks 9/ performance. I would repeat with either of them.
My lessons learned. 1) Don't drink too much beer. I think I will limit myself to two next night. Brewer's droop and all that. Non-alcoholic drinks are free and the 10 euros per beer can eat away at your cash pile. 2) Don't be afraid to talk to the other guys. Yes, the whole reason we are there is to fuck girls, but during the resting times you might as well talk to the other punters. 3) I'm going to try the porn room next time. It looked like fun. 4) Walk a lot, especially outside. It was a perfectly cool night so I was able to cool down after getting too overheated looking at gorgeous women. Plus you get to interact with the girls while walking by instead of being trapped if you're sitting. Several girls grabbed my ass or would brush up against me while walking past. So frickin' hot. 5) Spending time with a naked woman in private is the best part. I don't need to pop every session. Consider the whole night to be one long sex session. The girls certainly don't care. They just want the money, after all. 6) I'm going to try one of the fuck rooms by the outdoor pool next time.
Thanks again for all the info on the forums. You helped me have the greatest night. Well, until tomorrow's report.
As for me I always give tip to the girls, 60 euro is not much and I think you always should give some extra, it depends, sometimes 20 euro ekstra or all together 100 euro for half an hour.
But not less than 80 euro.
You can buy a ticket for alcoholic drinks in the reception.Come on guys, do not behave like jerks, why would you let them poor sweethearts deal with the lousy annoying 20 euro notes, make it 100, it's so simple. Unbelievable.
There you have it, in a few lines the reason why artemis, and tourist clubs in general, are tougher playgrounds.
Instead of tipping her take another session with her later.
As for me I always give tip to the girls, 60 euro is not much and I think you always should give some extra, it depends, sometimes 20 euro ekstra or all together 100 euro for half an hour.
But not less than 80 euro.
You can buy a ticket for alcoholic drinks in the reception.I like to give 200 euros. A nice even round number.
Septimus1974
07-31-15, 22:00
Instead of tipping her take another session with her later.Yes, I do the both of it. Tipping and another session. To be honest, why are you guys so miserly? 60 euro is very cheap and it should been raised to 100 euro.
Oh! The dick measurement game is on. Anyone up for the 300 Euro payment? Come on guys I know you got it in you.
ClitTeaser
08-01-15, 00:02
Oh! The dick measurement game is on. Anyone up for the 300 Euro payment? Come on guys I know you got it in you.I'm that satisfying for them that they tip me at the end. Beats working for a living.
Trizen here again with my second (and probably last) report. Another great visit to Artemis. Here are some details (shorter than last time, I promise).
As soon as I walked in I sat down in the lounge at one of the couches on the upper level at the very end. A beautiful brunette approached me named Alita. She is from Greece. Total shark. "Come to the room immediately. Thirty minutes from now is no good. Must be now. "Screw this. I turned her down without blinking an eye.
I got up from the couch and went to the spiral staircase. This Friday night was dead. Last Wednesday was much busier. What is going on? I guess all the Germans are on holiday by now. Lots of beautiful girls though, so what do I care. As I come to the spiral staircase, I meet Tatiana. We trade remarks back and forth and it is really a fun little conversation. She is a smart ass. I like it. Tatiana is Romanian, 27 years old, has been at Artemis for five years. She has page boy length dark hair and a crazy beautiful body. Not huge breasts but big, natural and lovely. Dark Romanian eyes. Somewhat dark skin tone to the point where I wondered if she might be a gypsy (but no bad smell). Just crazy beautiful. Okay, so I went upstairs with Tatiana for 1/2 hour. I loved it. She had great BBBJ technique. I finished easily within a half hour. She shared about her life with me and we had a nice time.
Back to the lounge. I walked around for a bit and all of a sudden ran into Ginger from Romania who I met last time. I told Ginger (friend of Alita from Wednesday) that I would see her on Friday. She held me to my word. Ginger is a beautiful blond, a bit taller than the others (or was it just the shoes?) and great smile. Page boy blond hair. My god, I took her upstairs for a 1/2 hour. I told her I might not finish in that time, but it was okay. She took that as a challenge. She went after me with BBBJ and then with FS and I loved it. She met her challenge. Before twenty minutes was up, I was done. Only then did she tell me that she saw my old body as a challenge and decided she was going to finish me no matter what. No rush, no frenzy, just friendly, passionate service. Outstanding.
Back to the lounge. I met with Maya from Hungary again. Folks, Maya is the real deal. I love every bone in her body. She is an ex-porn star and if you are really nice to her she will tell you her porn name and you can look her up. Amazing girl. We did not do a session but we sat together for a while and massaged each other.
I sat back down on a couch in the lounge determined to leave once I finished my beer. Along came Vivian, a 30 year old Romanian girl (see a pattern here?) and she sat beside me on the couch. No, not really beside me, mostly on top of me. Vivian is a big girl, really big natural boobs, thick waisted, shoulder length reddish brown hair, glasses. Sexy but more the girl-next door look, not supermodel like a lot of the other girls at Artemis. Vivian had a sparkling personality, laughing and joking with great English. (All my girls from tonight had excellent English.) She started playing around with me through the robe and, to my great surprise, I was sitting there with a hard-on. I had no idea this was possible after two other girls and two pops. Okay Vivian, you win, we're going at it. I took Vivian to the cinema room and we had a great time. I completely forgot to watch the porno, she had me quite focused. It was a great time. I didn't pop, which was fine with me. Vivian gives very nice service, she is always inquiring what you want, pressure, speed. She is a caring girl, really pleasant time. I would repeat with Vivian.
As I left I saw that Maya was in an argument with some Arab guys who didn't want to pay for something. I got the distinct impression you don't want to mess with Maya.
To be honest I did not have a good impression of the Romanian girls my first visit to Artemis. But this time. Wow! I had three Romanian girls and three superb experiences. I can recommend each one of them highly.
I also ran into two guys from Wednesday. German / Albanian cousins. Crazy dudes and a lot of fun! We had a good time sharing stories and watching the girls walk by.
To summarize: Tatiana from Romania - 27 years old - 8/ looks, 9/ service. Ginger From Romania via Amsterdam - 24 years old - 9/ looks, 9 service. Vivian from Romania - 30 years old - 6/ looks, 9/ service. I would repeat with any of them. So beautiful and such passionate, friendly service.
That's it for me. At least, my wallet hopes so. I'm quite glad that I do not live in Berlin, because these girls would be emptying my wallet on a regular basis. How do you Berliners deal with it?
UltraHappy
08-01-15, 01:17
Oh! The dick measurement game is on. Anyone up for the 300 Euro payment? Come on guys I know you got it in you.I give them a nice Ultrahappy kiss as their tip. That's got to be worth like a 200 Euros at least!
A beautiful brunette approached me named Alita. She is from Greece. Total shark.
(She's probably Romanian pretending to be Greek).
Tatiana is Romanian, 27 years old, has been at Artemis for five years. She has page boy length dark hair and a crazy beautiful body. Not huge breasts but big, natural and lovely. Dark Romanian eyes. Somewhat dark skin tone to the point where I wondered if she might be a gypsy (but no bad smell).
(Tatiana is a nice girl. She enjoys DATY very much).
Back to the lounge. I met with Maya from Hungary again. Folks, Maya is the real deal. I love every bone in her body. She is an ex-porn star and if you are really nice to her she will tell you her porn name and you can look her up. Amazing girl. We did not do a session but we sat together for a while and massaged each other.
(You can tell us her porn name. Chances are, I won't get to meet her.).
I sat back down on a couch in the lounge determined to leave once I finished my beer. Along came Vivian, a 30 year old Romanian girl (see a pattern here?) and she sat beside me on the couch. No, not really beside me, mostly on top of me.
(Oh, Vivian! Reaching in your robe is her signature move. She is very affectionate.).
...in Berlin, because these girls would be emptying my wallet on a regular basis. How do you Berliners deal with it?
(Regular German guys do not tip the girls. In fact it is frowned upon. Germany also offers other options outside of the FKKs).
Well, I am glad you executed the game plan quite well for a rookie. I can tell you read my report because that is exactly what I would do if I were in your shoes.
Next time try the Frankfurt clubs.
FiddyCent.
CDNTraveler
08-01-15, 05:43
My lessons learned. 1) Don't drink too much beer. I think I will limit myself to two next night. Brewer's droop and all that. Non-alcoholic drinks are free and the 10 euros per beer can eat away at your cash pile. 2) Don't be afraid to talk to the other guys. Yes, the whole reason we are there is to fuck girls, but during the resting times you might as well talk to the other punters. 3) I'm going to try the porn room next time. It looked like fun. 4) Walk a lot, especially outside. It was a perfectly cool night so I was able to cool down after getting too overheated looking at gorgeous women. Plus you get to interact with the girls while walking by instead of being trapped if you're sitting. Several girls grabbed my ass or would brush up against me while walking past. So frickin' hot. 5) Spending time with a naked woman in private is the best part. I don't need to pop every session. Consider the whole night to be one long sex session. The girls certainly don't care. They just want the money, after all. 6) I'm going to try one of the fuck rooms by the outdoor pool next time.
Thanks again for all the info on the forums. You helped me have the greatest night. Well, until tomorrow's report.Thank you! As a newbie myself your information and experiences are really important and I am grateful for the sharing!
ZimmerBaby
08-01-15, 07:36
Yes, I do the both of it. Tipping and another session. To be honest, why are you guys so miserly? 60 euro is very cheap and it should been raised to 100 euro.Insanity is not a crime, or are you a WG from Artemis?
ClitTeaser
08-01-15, 08:03
Insanity is not a crime, or are you a WG from Artemis?+1.
True 60 Euro is not much but pros in Berlin are not rare either.
Insanity is not a crime, or are you a WG from Artemis?SepticMoose you are probably wondering why they guys on the forum are giving you some grief and you asked why the guys are so measly. It is not that the guys (or me!) are mean.
It is as easy as this: if you tip every girl because you think €60 is not enough, you will lower levels of service for all mongers. Tipping in an FKK is no different than tipping in other service environments: if you get exceptional service you should tip and tip well. If you receive normal service you should not tip. I know americans have a different mentality to this but FKKs are not in the USA and around the rest of the world tipping is reserved for really exceptional service. If girls know they will get a tip whatever the service their service will be mechanical. I don't blame them actually. I can fully understand why a girl having to give 10 blow jobs in a day would not be so inclined to give the last two the same effort as the first two. That is human nature, fatigue etc. But if girls realise that when they do go the extra mile for a punter they get a good tip they try harder.
Now some punters are mean: giving an Ultrahappy kiss as a tip is something the girl probably would have paid NOT to receive!
Only joking UH but you walked into it!
So SepticMoose. No grief from me. But please think about other mongers when adopting policies in FKK. It is important for us all that the girls do offer top service. As it is the girls in Artemis get a way with a lot because there is no rival club in Berlin.
FlyByCable
08-01-15, 10:18
I had planned a visit to the Artemis at Friday (7th) the coming week but now I see they have an event "Pool Party" at Wednesday (5th).
Hmm, I have never been to such an event at Artemis. Do you think it's worth a visit? What day do you think there will be most girls?
A beautiful brunette approached me named Alita. She is from Greece. Total shark.
Well, I am glad you executed the game plan quite well for a rookie. I can tell you read my report because that is exactly what I would do if I were in your shoes.
FiddyCent.Thanks FiddyCent for your comments. Yes, I read your report with great interest. I learned a lot and put it to good practice.
I know americans have a different mentality to this but FKKs are not in the USA and around the rest of the world tipping is reserved for really exceptional service. The reason Americans have different tipping mentality is because in certain services industry jobs (like waitress) tipping is big part of the income. Reason being that base salary is very low.
Otherwise I strongly agree with your sentiment.
My view:
We can argue that 50-60 euro is not as much as it was 15 years ago and that influx of EE girls have pushed the prices down (and therefore that real income has gone down) but on the other hand there is very few normal jobs which will give you this much income for 30 minute job (or tbh in most cases in Artemis a 15-20 min job). I have heard girls complain of slow day when they only pulled in 430 euros. Ofc they got expenses too and I suspect that some of them are turning over they money to third parties (esp Romanian girls) but certainly a german girl is earning more money in a week than a high paying German does in a month. Just look at the cars some of the girls are having.
You will not impress them with 40 euro tip for a rushed job, you will simply mark yourself as gullible target. And ofc if she receives tip for substandard service what will be her reason to improve herself? So basically you just rewarded someone for mediocre service, ensuring you get same level of service next time and in same time ruining experience (by lowering the bar of what is acceptable service) for the next guy.
I strongly advise people to view this hobby as business transaction first and foremost. Always respect the girl but never be in doubt that if you got heart attack while being in process of paying them most of them would probably steal your wallet first before calling for help (and some of them wouldn't even do that).
My rule for tipping:
Did she give you service and a experience that you cannot experience with 90% of every other girl in Artemis or for that matter any other FKK? She deserves tipping.
None of the 22 sessions I had in Artemis qualified for this. The only girl I tipped was my first experience in a FKK. I tipped her because I did not know any better and did not want to be asshole towards the girl (her "service"* was shitty compared to every other girl. And I had some crappy ones).
*Talking about Nicole from CZ.
Thanks FiddyCent for your comments. Yes, I read your report with great interest. I learned a lot and put it to good practice.No problem Trizen. It makes me happy every time I read about a success story. I used to visit Artemis at least once a year, but I thought most of the good girls have either moved on or retired. In its heyday, you would have met a girl like Nina. She was probably one of the most talked about gals at the club. You would also get the tattooed porn star types like Nika and Lulu. There were also very pretty girls like Polish Hannah. I am just reminiscing about the club and the girls that you had sessions with. Lucky for you that you met a girl like Maya. I am curious to know what her porn name was. I hope you could share your secret with us. You could also PM me, if you have a subscription.
Happy mongering!
FiddyCent.
UltraHappy
08-01-15, 19:10
For those of us accustomed to paying 100 Euro / hour in Hessen, paying 120 Euros / HR already feels like we're tipping them. Like this, Artemis girls already have a built-in tip included in their base price.
Plus, doesn't Berlin have a cheaper cost of living than Hessen anyways?
Hessen Bub
08-01-15, 20:00
For those of us accustomed to paying 100 Euro / hour in Hessen, paying 120 Euros / HR already feels like we're tipping them. Like this, Artemis girls already have a built-in tip included in their base price.
Plus, doesn't Berlin have a cheaper cost of living than Hessen anyways?Yes. And yes again. Plus one of the highest entry fees due to the monopolistic situation in Berlin.
HB.
PussyLiccker
08-01-15, 20:34
For those of us accustomed to paying 100 Euro / hour in Hessen, paying 120 Euros / HR already feels like we're tipping them. Like this, Artemis girls already have a built-in tip included in their base price.
Plus, doesn't Berlin have a cheaper cost of living than Hessen anyways?Or you can also think of it as paying 25 Euros tip in Hessen for 1 HR if comparing to Samya. Or 20 Euros comparing to Aca. NRW club prices has risen recently due to Oceans, but before GT/LR pricing was 50 for first half, and 25 after. All different types of extended rates. Or we can think of CIM tipping 25 extra in Hessn, or 50 for Anal. Just difference in prices. Good competition over there too.
Member #4449
08-01-15, 22:24
I spent just shy of 3 k Euro over 5 days at Artemis this year, 100 in tips, 30 Euro on 30 min sessions with excellent service, where I should have extended. 70 on above and beyond service and free time. I am amazed that I got free time this year, and free time last year as a tourist, and I think that should be rewarded since they know I would not be a regular. 1 hour sessions with good service or with extras I did not tip. I believe this is a good balance. As a whole I think over tipping is bad for tourists and locals in the long run. Tip where tipping is due, but not overdo it. The American model where 10% tip is bad service and 20% or more is good service, just hurts us all.
About the Artemis pricing. For tourists like me with limited time it is pure convenience, I know I would get more bang for my buck in other parts of Germany, but it would also be way more hassle with multiple flights, travels, hotels, rental car etc. Artemis for me means direct flight, cheep hotel, very easy access by public transport. And I am willing to pay extra for that, and that makes Artemis the tourist club it is, for the good and the bad.
Also having just one choice you can get more prepared, less names to remember. And you can repeat with the good ones. Doing 5 clubs in 5 days in Frankfurt, is a way bigger gamble. This year I had only 2 bad session and that was because my own stupidity, imagine experimenting with 4 or more clubs else where. I doubt I would have the same success rate. So yes I have no problems with the Artemis prices, but it would suck if I lived in Berlin.
PussyLiccker
08-02-15, 06:32
We can argue that 50-60 euro is not as much as it was 15 years ago and that influx of EE girls have pushed the prices down (and therefore that real income has gone down) but on the other hand there is very few normal jobs which will give you this much income for 30 minute job (or tbh in most cases in Artemis a 15-20 min job). I have heard girls complain of slow day when they only pulled in 430 euros. Ofc they got expenses too and I suspect that some of them are turning over they money to third parties (esp Romanian girls) but certainly a german girl is earning more money in a week than a high paying German does in a month. Just look at the cars some of the girls are having.
I can see it being attractive still for Germans. Those that are lacking education or supplementing income. 50 or 60 Euros in a half hour is still a quick rate if comparing it to what other work there are that can fetch that amount at their age without skills. I have seen Germans show up only on weekends and this would be due to other engagements during the week perhaps another work or schooling if they are young. I have met the Germans that had more difficulty with English and would guess those are the types that lack some education or motivation for it. Few others that had full-time job during the week, and I see them at the club for the weekend to make extra quick money, and some don't show every weekend. And lastly, it's in cash.
Hessen Bub
08-02-15, 13:07
I This year I had only 2 bad session and that was because my own stupidity, imagine experimenting with 4 or more clubs else where. I doubt I would have the same success rate. All depends on what you call a good session.
HB.
Member #4449
08-02-15, 15:30
All depends on what you call a good session.
HB.Now that is the 1 million dollar question, and a very subjective one.
I can try to explain.
Good Session, can be done around the 30 min mark or longer, involves a little foreplay, good technical skilled sex. Where there are no shortcuts from your provider, puts down all her skills and efforts. You leave satisfied and you feel that you got your moneys worth. I have a suspicion that this is what more experienced mongers would label as an average session.
Very good session for me is GFE, 1 hour or more, a lot of foreplay, maybe just laying next to each other making out, teasing from both party's, very slow build up, DATY, passionate sex, the technical aspect is not important here, and ends with cuddling and a little talking. At no point is money or time mention in these sessions, it just flows, and ends when you feel it the right time to end it.
Spectacular, will not label these as sessions as time is irrelevant. The bar here is set by my regular escort, I visit 2 or 3 times a year for a weekend or short week. Wine, dine and the whole shebang.
In FKK land, 2 maybe 3 lady's has achieved this. It involves all the GFE elements from above, but add mutual orgasms, makes you achieve an orgasm that leaves your legs shaking and toes curling. It makes you forget time and place the rest of the world just phases out, you lower all your guards and barriers.
On the other hand, pun intended. The strongest orgasm I have achieved has been trough tantric and lingam massage, from a masseuse that has studied this for many years. It leaves your entire body tingling, your legs shaking and your hips raised in the air, it is nothing like sex, just pure sensation. This is something I have experienced only 4 or 5 times in my life. In Berlin, Kashima. De offers this experience.
FlyByCable
08-02-15, 16:51
I think it's very cheap whatsoever, compared to what its cost here in Sweden. You want find any sex here at all for 60 euro. Not even the free sex cost less. LOL.
If I was a sex working girl I wouldn't handle to do that work the girls at Artemis or other "tourist" clubs does, no way, not for that kind of small money.
Just think about to meet all this drunk and drooling men looking like Homer Simpson thinking about donuts. Huuu!
But still, I almost never give tip to the girls. If I should give a tip the session really need to be a wonderful Hallelujah Moment. So to all of you Artemis girls reading here, give me a Hallelujah Moment and I will dig real DEEP in my wallet. LOL.
Once again. What do you guys think about the upcoming "pool party" event? Any thoughts at all? Anyone of you going there? I have never been to such an event and I don't know what to expect with a visit? Maybe more drunk men? I'm not sure if I shall re-book my hotel room from Friday to Wednesday? The whether is expected to be better at Friday.
PussyLiccker
08-02-15, 18:46
What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
What is the estimation of the turnout of the girls on a good night? Which night during the week would have the best turn-out? Is there are particular day of the week that the ratio of girls to boys are the best?
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
If you look back at the forum for previous years around that time, then I'm sure you can find some answers.
What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.I was there week ago and there was everything between 20 to 40's. My experience during last week (I don't have age preference so don't take my word for gospel): Average is mid-twenties and upwards during the day and same at the evening. But since lot more girls work at evening (after 18-19) there is lot more selection. Generally if you are into lower end of 20's you'll find something to your taste but don't expect to have all house full of them youngs.
London Traveller
08-02-15, 22:13
What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
What is the estimation of the turnout of the girls on a good night? Which night during the week would have the best turn-out? Is there are particular day of the week that the ratio of girls to boys are the best?Great stuff!
What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region."Mattress Back" Marketa (a very attractive blonde Czech) must have been 27 at least for five solid years in a row hahaha!
What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
What is the estimation of the turnout of the girls on a good night? Which night during the week would have the best turn-out? Is there are particular day of the week that the ratio of girls to boys are the best?Bloody hell PL I'm trying to think of a question you didn't ask!! Ever one for a challenge here goes:
Avg age. I'd say 26-30 -.
Yes good percentage are late 20's.
General age as per average above.
19.45876% under 24 on last trip though one girl had her 24th that night so it might be less now! Only jokin! LOL. I'd say less than 20% are under 24 - if you want young girls go to Oase in Frankfurt.
More over 25's than most FKK clubs in my experience though YMMV.
IFA is not until 4-9 Sept so simply avoid those dates. Yes the club would be busier. During the Champions League Final (in Berlin this year there were queues outside the club lasting an hour to get in and guys offering girls hundreds of euros for 30 minutes).
After the Champions League Final the LU returned to normal after a day or so.
I have no idea what turnout of girls there is on a good night but it doesn't matter. If you find 4 or 5 you want to session with you don't need 100.
I rather doubt any guy will have done actual ratios for each day but as with most clubs Fridays and Saturdays are busiest and again in my experience Art is the same. Wednesday is dessous and can be less busy.
Hope that helps. Now. In the same way, I recently asked a question of the most frequent Artemis forum members. Diplomat / Rocketboy etc. Who are your top 5 girls there in the LU at present? Cmon guys share a little!
Septimus1974
08-02-15, 23:38
I agree. Staying longer than 30 minutes is tip enough. Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. Even Sasha was grumpy. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.It has changed a lot at Artemis the last years and it is getting tougher for the girls, the price has been the same for some years and the competition between the girls getting customers is very hard. You can see the result of it every day. Sometimes there are only a few men during daytime and more than 50 girls, situations like this is not good for the girls and not for the men as well. The management seems not to be willing to solve this problem with too many girls at all. I do understand why some of the Girls are getting grumpy. And another reason why the girls are getting grumpy are that some men can't behave at all.
At my first visit in 2008 I thought Artemis were a great place, nothing to compare, but now I have changed my mind, it has changed and has become a worse Place. And this it not due to the girls who is very friendly.
Ibrahimovic
08-03-15, 13:21
I returned to Artemis almost a year after my last visit. There was no really noticeable change in quality of LU since last year in my opinion. I had a repeat from last visit with Vanity from Barbados. Not a talkative girl and not so active but she is quite sweet and it was possible to have a nice relaxed time together. Vanity has got the most spectacular and amazing body I've experienced. Small and tight ass, soft skin, super slim waist and the softest grandiose breasts. Will probably always remember the feeling of caressing those big tits since I have never felt anything so soft and smooth. Vanity later recommended for me Aileen from Hamburg. Dark-haired, beautiful eyes, quite big implants and a well proportioned tight ass. I was a bit too tired for this session to really be present in the moment and enjoy it properly. But Aileen had good technique and I would say that she gave a pretty decent service. Only disappointing session for me was with Virginia from Hungary. Tall blonde woman with big pouty lips and big implants. This girl was a bit rushed and set in her ways trying to go through her programme. Not so flexible or sensitive to input.
I picked Dominicana Liza basically because she looked very hot dancing in the lounge and seemed to be enjoying herself chatting with everyone. Maybe not the best sexual chemistry for me (albeit good and different BJ technique) and did not enjoy the location which was one of the small rooms adjacent to the kino downstairs. Liza however is very outgoing and personable. Could be a good choice for anyone who values the energetic and fun / spontaneous type. Blonde Heather from Moldava has this rather sweet and different look. Resembles a princess, got a little vibe of the film Marie Antoinette or something like that. She did not offer anything beyond the basic for 30 minutes but I still liked the session. She was hot enough to help me get into the right feeling.
I had been eyeing this voluptuous German blonde called Manelle for two days. Had a nice chat with her in the lounge, seemed that she was quite new to the place. Out of all the girls I've met in A this was the one with the most relaxed attitude. Being a tourist I always get the sales pitch within the first two minutes. Manelle didn't even seem to expect me to want to go upstairs. She rather seemed surprised when I proposed it. Quite a contrast from the girl that approached me just before I went to Manelle. After 15 seconds of conversation came the rehearsed and robotic: "I like you, I want to go to the room with you". The smart and genuine girls must have a great advantage in the long run. Manelle was great in the room too, sexy and skilled, nice kissing. I got so into it that I remembered something I'd read (probably in this thread) about someone asking the girl to leave the room and venture downstairs to bring someone up to make it a surprise threesome. I felt nervous asking for it since I didn't want her to feel that she was lacking in any way but she reacted well of course. She brought petite brunette Tessa. Not really my type or anyone I'd picked myself but I guess that was part of the excitement. The girls showed a lot of commitment in the ensuing threesome. Maybe a tad theatrical in moaning and unrealistically quick orgasms on their part. I enjoyed Manelle alot and would recommend her.
On my first day I also had a threesome. Met petite German / Mozambican Valesca and she asked if I'd like to bring in another girl. This was convenient since I also had my eyes on Marisol from Dominican Rep. I was a bit worried considering the many bad reviews of threesomes in FKKs. I turned down the offer of lesbo-show or whatever they call it and choose a plain one hour session. Valesca and Marisol were rather sweet and combined quite well finding different ways of optimizing the effect of them being a duo. Maybe not over the top extraordinary but still very good and the beauty of the girls added a lot to the pleasure.
So on to the very best ones: Debby from Stuttgart with beautiful curly ash-blonde hair. This girl had the ability to within the half hour (felt like we went over) offer both a mix of GFE-feeling and very sexy porn style sex. Finished with COF and then some cuddling. As we were ready to leave I got hard again which she pointed out. I was ready to extend for an additional half hour but she advice against it. She recommended me to come find her again later on instead since it would be more pleasurable for me if I had to pay first. I was impressed with her honest and considerate way, she could have easily just cashed in on the extended session. Unfortunately I couldn't manage to find her free anymore that evening. Very recommendable girl, probably the best service level I've come across so far. And many appealing aspects of Debby; attractive face, tight body, feminine beautiful voice, great techniques and very generous.
I also had the pleasure of meeting Russian blonde Vegas. I noticed her in the stairs but couldn't get eye contact so went after her into the lounge. Sat down in a couch as she got busy talking with a bunch of other girls. As I finally approached her, she seemed very icy. As she gave me her name I vaguely remembered that I had read about her in this thread and that she was supposed to be good. She actually interviewed me to find out if she'd consider going upstairs, rather than the other way around! This was something new to me, but I guess this is the approach for someone that is very popular. She may not have been as present or cuddly as Debby but the kissing was perfect, best BJ technique I've experienced and overall just super sexy. Debby and Vegas were standouts for me this weekend. But the general quality of sessions was pretty high throughout. Maybe I was a bit lucky in my pickings.
Comparing Artemis to the big clubs in Frankfurt, which I visited two months ago, I think Artemis stands well against the competition. The variety of different types of girls and looks is an asset to A. I would also rate A slightly higher than Sharks and Oase for the level of looks and the service given seemed equivalent to me (even though I would need more visits to make a fair comparison).
Ibrahimovic
08-04-15, 10:04
Great report thank you.
I will go Artemis in October, as you been to Frankfurt I saw most beautiful blondes German at Palace, do you think Artemis has that kind of quality?I am not so experienced, have only been to Palace two nights. But I would say that Palace and Artemis do resemble each other in the type of line-up of girls. I think the number of women may be greater at Artemis on an average night compared to Palace, so a little more to choose from. And you will see the same type of quite beautiful women and also plenty of pornstar-types. But of course, in Artemis like in Palace the girls will be somewhat older than other clubs and more implants than natural. If you like blondes I would recommend Vegas, Debby and Heather. Debby and Heather I guess are kind of ash-blonde in colour. Vegas has more of the pornstar type of looks if you're into that, with beautiful eyes. I've also been with Cuban Bella last year, don't know if she's still there. She is a bit of a Pamela Anderson look-a-like and gives great service. In Palace I met only one great blonde; called Nikky (Nikki?) who were on par with the best from Artemis I'd say.
ClitTeaser
08-06-15, 23:29
Hi guys,
Had a wonderful time at Artemis the other day. I must say a big thank-you to all of you who have given advice and techniques for visiting Artemis: avoiding sharks, girls to avoid, wearing your watch etc. I would like to add that once you have chosen a girl to fuck, go to one of the rooms UPSTAIRS. The rooms next to the Kino in the basement as well as both kinos themselves are too warm. Upstairs you can open the windows / curtains and enjoy the pussy better.
Anyway my first session was with a blond gorgeous 27 year old Latvian babe called Mila. She started with a lovely blow-job. Great technique with lips and tongue. Of all the blow jobs I've had. Both from lovers and pros. This was by far the best one. Then she let me lick her perfectly clean and sensitive pussy. She seemed to enjoy it and was soon soaking wet. Then it was on to a cowgirl fuck. Sadly this did not last long because I could not hold back any longer.
Mila does not kiss, but she will let you play with her lovely tits.
After Mila, I ate some food and rested. It was good in the restaurant looking at the girls wrapped in towels. I actually think this is more of a turn on than seeing them naked.
After dinner and a rest in the porn kino, I decided to have one for the road. I chose a Hungarian brunette called Andrea. She has only been at Artemis for a short time and is still a rookie. Her attitude is great and she wants to please. Her blow jobs are slightly toothy but improve when she slows down. Her pussy felt good when I was inside her. Sex was good both in missionary and doggy. I Shot my load into her after a good fuck. She is certainly one to recommend and one I would session with again.
All- in-all it was a good day at Artemis.
I had a laugh on leaving. As I was leaving the building, a taxi was waiting outside. I walked past and saw a confused man looking up and down the motorway at the junction of the West Kreutz car park. "What are you looking for? I cried. "A taxi", said he. (How many people go to West Kreutz for a cab? Ever helpful I told him that there was a taxi sitting at the entrance of a brothel at the end of the street. Upon hearing the word 'brothel' his ears pricked up. "By the way", I added, "if you are going in you should try Mila".
I hope he had a good time. In the taxi of course.
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I'm planning a quick visit to Berlin next week, anyone seen Sissy lately, she's a nice Bulgarian brunette with angel wings tattoo on back.
Thanks
anyone seen Sissy lately, she's a nice Bulgarian brunette with angel wings tattoo on back.Have seen her ten days ago. Didn't visit the place since then. - Just call the Front desk.
Have seen her ten days ago. Didn't visit the place since then. - Just call the Front desk.Thanks a lot, I know I may call the front desk but I'm outside Germany now and for what I know they can only say if the girl is already there or not but they cannot say anything about its schedule.
I hope to check it out soon, thanks again.
Just got back from Artemis. This review will be for newbies. I've been in the game for over 10 years and had no clue what I've been missing. Americans rave about Thailand, Columbia, DR, etc. as pussy paradises, but I've never heard anyone talk about German FKKs. This is an experience that should not be missed.
First of all, it's basically a brothel masked as a nudist club. The first thing you do is strip, shower, and put on a robe. So be prepared to be naked with other naked dudes. I've never really done this and was uncomfortable at first but after a while, I didn't mind. I went for pussy but actually found myself enjoying the facilities way more than I expected. Maybe I'll become a nudist!
So you pay 80 euro to get in, but this includes access to everything: showers, sauna, pool, food, soda etc. Alcoholic drinks are 10. I vaped with my pax on the shitter without anyone noticing, so I saved some cash there. The girls all cost 60 euro to fuck for 30 minutes. They're not allowed to charge more unless you request stuff like CIM or anal etc. DON'T PAY THEM MORE! NO TIPPING REQUIRED!
So the main bar area is like a strip club but totally nude girls walk around trying to get you to fuck them. Let me put this into perspective. A room full of white women in their 20's is begging you to fuck them for about $65. In NYC you could only get a Dominican to give you 3 lap dances for that. These girls sucked my dick raw (which I was hesitant about, but hey, when in Rome) and fucked with multiple positions for about twice the cost of the taxi drive back to my hotel! Ok, when I say white, I'm mainly talking about Eastern Europeans, Russians, Romanians, etc. But these girls would cost at least $300 in the states. Some were gorgeous! They were mostly very slim, which is not my preference, but hey I got over it.
Onto the details. Lounging outside I was approached by Loreen, a 25 year old from Hungary who said her father was Arabic. Beautiful face, beautiful eyes, olive skin, natural athletic body, and silky real dark hair she let me run my fingers through. I flirted a little and dropped some jokes and she warmed up to me quickly. Guys, these are hoes, but you will get the best out of them by flirting. So I take her to a room, give her a massage, after which she gives me awesome sloppy head. She put on a condom and rode my dick cowgirl style and then I laid her on her back and pounded away until I dropped a nut deep inside that 25 year old pussy. She was very passionate and seemed really into it, or was the best actress I've ever fucked. The entire time, we never lost eye contact, which was more of a turn on than anything. I think she might have hypnotized me with some Hungarian Gypsy magic!
I hung around for a while and decided that I was going to try for round two. At this point it was much later and more crowded with guys. So there was slim pickings as all the hottest girls were occupied. I grabbed a Barbie doll looking Romanian, but she was very cold. Perfect body, perfect face, but no raw sexiness or passion. I got a sense of this lack of connection and probably should have passed, but I was getting tired. She provided all the same services, but again she was very distant, and this made it hard for me to enjoy myself. Hey, I want my hoes not to act like hoes, what can I say? Even with this small disappointment, the experience was fucking amazing.
BTW, check out the public fuck room in the back left corner. I didn't know I'd be into watching another dude fuck but it was interesting.
Hi guys,
I'm new here and I am planning few visits to the Artemis next week.
I am a foot fetishist and I wanted to know if girls of the Artemis could perform such things?
Thanks
I've been to the Art quite a few times now but recently called out for some help from some regulars given my impending visit. I'd like to say a bit thanks to those who responded here (several did). Rather than name anyone I'd prefer to just say a big thanks and you know who you are. And so.
First night, only in the club for 10 minutes and bumped into Loira. Who I sessioned with on a previous visit. Beautiful blonde Czech / German, mid 20's, good body, fairly tall and some tattoos and sillies but nice ones! Definitely wanted a session but conscious of the old "not with the first girl. " syndrome so decided to check out the club to see if some of my personal favourites were in. No Celia, Ruby, or Joanna. All great girls (see my previous Art post from June). Really disappointed no Joanna. Great perfornance. Lots of options though. Couple of beers, some food and then into session with Loira. 90 minutes and great time.
Day 2. Arrived earlier. Did a one hour workout downstairs. No - not the horizontal type. An actual workout in the gym area. It's excellent. I know it's odd to do this in a FKK but hey its there for a reason. Massage area is public. Not my thing. Shame as I'd have had one otherwise. Into the bar, stunning blonde Helena. Romanian but cold as a fish to talk to do decided to heed the bad vibe and pass. And was I glad I did. Spotted Debby. Lots of good recent reports on her and good feedback from those who offered help. What an amazing girl. I've been doing this 30 years and I can honestly say I don't think anyone has exceeded her amazing GFE performance. Everything you want, she kisses beautifully, is very skilled and very charming. Best experience I've had in any FKK. 2 hours, exhausted but went home very happy.
Day 3. Arrived later. Had looked out for Vegas from previous reports and help given but she had not been in the club the last 2 nights. Here tonight. Very tall Russian blonde with enormous sillies and tattoos everywhere. Blonde but blue hair at the bottom! Soon to be pink! Not my usual type but decided not to ignore excellent reports and you know they do pay off. Best BBBJ in the business. This girl knows how to suck a cock! She really opens up once you break the ice. Lovely girl, great service. More PSE than GFE but great. Then onto final session of this trip - 3 hour marathon with Debby. Just awesome. And joined for the last 30 minutes by her friend Lisa. Black girl from Dominican Republic. Great natural the cups and terrific attitude. I normally avoid threesomes but they took me to heaven and back.
Fantastic trip, great girls. Debby (incredible) Vegas, Lisa and Loira. Would recommend them all. Thanks again for the help guys. You made an old (er) man very happy!
I guarantee you can have this. You may have to pay the $60 only for foot play or sex, but both may be more. Standard was blowjob and then sex.
Hi guys,
I'm new here and I am planning few visits to the Artemis next week.
I am a foot fetishist and I wanted to know if girls of the Artemis could perform such things?
Thanks
Hi guys,
I'm new here and I am planning few visits to the Artemis next week.
I am a foot fetishist and I wanted to know if girls of the Artemis could perform such things?
ThanksMaxx's answer was right Nick. You should ask downstairs in the lounge as some girls won't do things out of the ordinary. Most will do CIM for more money, and some anal for even more but in Artemis the girls tend to want payment for extra services. That said, if you find a girl who will oblige it's worth paying for it if that is your thing. I would ask Loira (blonde) or Vegas. I would be surprised if either of those girls said no as they are very accommodating. Just don't put your foot in it. Sorry. Couldn't resist. LOL. Enjoy.
StrikeFour
08-10-15, 01:06
Is getting a rim job a standard extra or is it maybe not common?
FlyByCable
08-10-15, 09:09
I was also at Artemis this Sunday, the name of the first girl you described is Kiara if I'm not mistaken!?
I had a session with a few months ago she had a tight pussy but she had one of the worst BJ I have had in my life (she sucks with her teethes) ok personality didn't kiss and didn't seem to like DATY. If you have a connection with her go for it, otherwise don't bother.
Sorry but I don't know the name of girl number 2.Yes. You were right. Thanks.
One months later I find it out, her name was Kiara and she claimed to be 24 years old.
I came to talk with her where she sat in the bar, I heard her speaking German with her friend, I don't speak German, I was a little shy for her and it took a while before I dared to go talk to her. And my first question became very stupid, Hallo sprechen sie deutsch? No stupid me, I mean English! She looked at me as I was from another planet. I asked her if she was busy but I pronounced it "bisse". Not a good start. LOL.
I become like a nervous 15 year old boy (I'm just over 40) when I see a beautiful girl that I find very attractive, for me she is like 10,5 at a scale from one to ten. I stood in front of her trying to hide my great boner with the towel.
I asked her if she want to make me company in the jacuzzi and then go to a room whereupon she replied that I have to pay for the time in the jacuzzi, of course I said and then we walked together out to the jacuzzi thru the lounge and the restaurant with me trying to hide my boner all the way out. LOL. Damn what a babe! What a body!
I Had a quite good session with her, not the best one I had in my life but it was okay, but sadly no kissing, I would give the session about 7,5-8 on a scale to 10.
If I would repeat? Yes maybe, but that depends what the alternative is for the moment.
But damn what a body.
Would be cool to connect, discuss the girls and have a good time. PM!
Had a really nice day today. I've done three sessions. And I need your help to get the last two girls and I need your help to get the last two girls name.
First of all of the place is quite nice. Spacious and comfy. The food is good and you can get free soft drinks.
Did my first session with Nikole. Pretty nice girl her blowjob is fantastic and professional and has a fairly tight pussy. She has a nice body but look is okay.
Second girl is a very tall German around 180 cm. 28 yo and has a baby. Totally forgot her name but she's quite passionate but not as professional as nikole. Small boobs but her look is quite a stunner.
Last one is a young Romanian girl. She's very cute and popular I have to rush to her after she finishes shower or someone else would get her. However her English is not good at all and doesn't seem to try to understand. Expect a Siri level of understanding. However very cute and nice boobs and coops pretty well.
However I was quite frustrated at the bar as I asked the waitress for a glass of water she just went mad at me because I didn't say please. It's funny and I'm always thinking maybe that because I'm Asian. Honestly I was going to say thanks after I get the water.
Hi,
I'll be there August 28-30. Any events happening that would make it crowded?
Thanks
Had a really nice day today. I've done three sessions. And I need your help to get the last two girls and I need your help to get the last two girls name.
First of all of the place is quite nice. Spacious and comfy. The food is good and you can get free soft drinks.
Did my first session with Nikole. Pretty nice girl her blowjob is fantastic and professional and has a fairly tight pussy. She has a nice body but look is okay.
Second girl is a very tall German around 180 cm. 28 yo and has a baby. Totally forgot her name but she's quite passionate but not as professional as nikole. Small boobs but her look is quite a stunner.
Last one is a young Romanian girl. She's very cute and popular I have to rush to her after she finishes shower or someone else would get her. However her English is not good at all and doesn't seem to try to understand. Expect a Siri level of understanding. However very cute and nice boobs and coops pretty well.
However I was quite frustrated at the bar as I asked the waitress for a glass of water she just went mad at me because I didn't say please. It's funny and I'm always thinking maybe that because I'm Asian. Honestly I was going to say thanks after I get the water.Hey Blast,
I was there on Wednesday and had a session with Mercedes who is a tall German / Czech with short blond hair. Probably who you saw as she was popular that night. I had my eyes on a couple of young but wasn't horny enough for another round. Will check out tomorrow (Friday) as I will go one last time before heading to London.
Hi,
I have a bit of a sexy clothing fetish (pantyhose, spandex, nothing to crazy). Are clothing requests possible in an FKK like Artemis? I understand Wednesdays are lingerie day. On other days, can you ask if the girl has anything sexy to wear or bring something for them to wear (or does this not really work since all your stuff is in a locker? If this is not possible at Artemis, can anyone let me know if any venues might be friendly for something like this in Berlin? I am going to be staying in a nice hotel and generally prefer hotel incall. What are the better websites for this in Berlin?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
The place is easy to find and access is simple via S7 line.
The area is OK.
Girls are located in the bar (smoking area) and outside (there is a pool).
Today, around 30 girls.
I started with a tall brunette with fake boobs. I came very quickly but it was worth it. She was a 8. The talk.
Then I chose a blonde girls with enormous fake tits, we had fun, we talked a lot and plaid with her sweet titties.
Both were German girls.
Then I chose a Polish girl, well she came to me, and she had nice feet. I sucked them and we fucked.
A very good day, I think I will be back.
Hi,
I have a bit of a sexy clothing fetish (pantyhose, spandex, nothing to crazy). Are clothing requests possible in an FKK like Artemis? I understand Wednesdays are lingerie day. On other days, can you ask if the girl has anything sexy to wear or bring something for them to wear (or does this not really work since all your stuff is in a locker? If this is not possible at Artemis, can anyone let me know if any venues might be friendly for something like this in Berlin? I am going to be staying in a nice hotel and generally prefer hotel incall. What are the better websites for this in Berlin?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.Hi. You will have no problems if you ask the girl to wear something sexy for you in the room. They are unlikely to be willing to go upstairs, put it on and come back to join you in the bar or outside. But in the room would be fine. The other thing you can do is take an item of clothing with you. Lot's of guys take toys to FKK clubs, whips, canes, paddles, dildos, cuffs, etc then ask the girl to wait by the lockers whilst the toys are collected from the guy's locker to take upstairs. No reason you cannot do the same with something you think is sexy. Some girls might see this as an opportunity to upsell and ask you for more cash for doing this. Which isn't really fair as they would have to wear lingerie on dessous day for free anyway.
However I'd say this to you. I'm not sure you are thinking of mongering in the right place. FKKs are sauna clubs in which the girls are actually meant to be naked all of the time. Some cheat with little bits of clothing but they are not meant to cover their boobs or pussy / ass at all though some do. In some clubs this is considered a disciplinary offence. If you like girls in sexy clothing there are better alternatives. But more likely not in Germany. The puti clubs in Spain e. G. Vive in Madrid, Scandalo in Malaga are full of girls in very sexy dresses, skirts, shorts, jeans etc and they would have no problem wearing whatever you wanted them to wear for not much more money. The contract between these types of clubs and FKKs is great: I like both. The beauty of FKK is you get no surprises in the room. A saggy pair of tits is all there on display in public and you can avoid paying for them if you don't like them! That said, sex is often all about mystique as well, and for me, there is nothing more sexy that a beautiful girl in a sexy dress, stocking and suspenders and then taking them off slowing in the room. When I'm in FKK land I do miss that. In terms of Berlin. If you want to avoid just naked girls but want to monger. There is a good brothel at http://www.erotik-berlin.com - not that far from Artemis. Finally, try Pars No 5 In Berlin for sexy massage. Lilly is amazing. Have fun!
Hi anyone knows if the date for this next October (? Or late September? 10 years Artemis birthday party has already been decided. Thanks in advance.
Last year the birthday party was 2nd October.
Dropped by on Saturday at 14:00 - the ratio of sausage to girls was 3:1 - yet few men picked up girls. Few girls I knew complained that the day was slow. Most of the girls is still on vacation.
Decided on Jessie. The blonde that is slightly overweight (as in few kilos). Did not go with any more girls because I had to leave at 16:00 and the LU at that time held no interest for me.
The day after was actually better in sausage to girl ration but again the LU sucked. I picked up a Romanian girl that I did not remember name of. The session was OK but what happened later was what scared the hell out of me. I went for CIM + standard session (110 euro) and discovered that I was 30 euro short. No problem I thought, excused myself to the girl, and then I went to ATM machine to take out the money. My CC card bounced. I swear that my heart rate went to 300. The girl gave me killer looks and I was thinking that soon I will be the punching bag for the Turkish security guys. Luckily a Norwegian guy that I got to know on a last trip happened by and asked my what's the trouble. He gave me the money I needed no questions asked. Faith in humanity restored.
Went out to get some money from hotel before I returned to Artemis and than I spotted the guy that helped me earlier lead a pretty sexy bombshell upstairs. Holly. Long hair, beautiful body and boobs that can rival an artillery shell. (you can find her pics on the Artemis site. She is prettier in real life). I waited 4 hours for Holly to become available but I had no luck.
So this Artemis trip was bit wasted but my respect for fellow punters increased.
Last year the birthday party was 2nd October.Yes a Thursday (odd!) What is funny is that instead the birthday party in 2013 was on September 28th (Saturday)! Talk about a firm date. LOL.
MaxSquatter
08-18-15, 01:32
Do the women tend to treat younger, better looking guys more lovingly than others? Stupid question perhaps LOL. One person recently asked if women are open to giving / receiving rimjobs. Any knowledge of this? Do most people there swim in the nude? Looking forward to my first visit!
Thanks!
Do the women tend to treat younger, better looking guys more lovingly than others? Stupid question perhaps LOL. One person recently asked if women are open to giving / receiving rimjobs. Any knowledge of this? Do most people there swim in the nude? Looking forward to my first visit!
Thanks!You will find the youngest girls (under 20 and there are not many of those at Artemis) prefer young guys. Otherwise mostly I think the girls like older guys who have more money to spend! Not many of the girls would want to give rimming I doubt. Or if they do they will want extra money for it (and rightly so!) but I suspect several would receive it easily enough. Yes most people who swim do so nude. As you haven't been before it's worth reading some of the newbie posts to give you a guide. There are lots on the forum. First time being surrounded by so many naked women is amazing. Enjoy!
Do the women tend to treat younger, better looking guys more lovingly than others? Depends on the girl of course but any girl that has been over one year in this business will tell you that they prefer guys that treat them nice. When I was in Artemis few months ago, there was a couple of young guys from middle east that behaved like the girls were fortunate to be with them. I saw girls rolling eyes behind their backs on some of their comments (I don't understand German so I have no idea what they were telling girls). I even saw couple of girls avoiding them (which is something of an achievement in Artemis as most punters can attest).
I have no doubt that girl will perhaps enjoy having a session with someone they find attractive. That being said they are in Artemis to earn money and that large portion of them will see men young or old as walking ATM machine. In my experience (and I would be happy if I am wrong) if you are the type of guy that buy several hourlong sessions, buy extras. The girl will pay you tremendous attention and give you much love even if you roll in Artemis in a wheelchair while drooling spit.
MaxSquatter
08-19-15, 14:47
Depends on the girl of course but any girl that has been over one year in this business will tell you that they prefer guys that treat them nice. When I was in Artemis few months ago, there was a couple of young guys from middle east that behaved like the girls were fortunate to be with them. I saw girls rolling eyes behind their backs on some of their comments (I don't understand German so I have no idea what they were telling girls). I even saw couple of girls avoiding them (which is something of an achievement in Artemis as most punters can attest).
I have no doubt that girl will perhaps enjoy having a session with someone they find attractive. That being said they are in Artemis to earn money and that large portion of them will see men young or old as walking ATM machine. In my experience (and I would be happy if I am wrong) if you are the type of guy that buy several hourlong sessions, buy extras. The girl will pay you tremendous attention and give you much love even if you roll in Artemis in a wheelchair while drooling spit.I figured there would be guys like that in there. Not very pleasant. How would you describe the food there? Do they have good meats? Ha. Are you an advocate of going early in the day and week for a less crowded, less aggressive atmosphere? Or do you like the more selection of women but more crowded atmosphere of late in the day and late in the week?
Thanks!
Hey,
I am going to Berlin 2 days in September or Oktober and firt I wonder if there are any dates those months that are relly bad going becouse it will be crowded, holiday I Germany or anything else?
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
Thanks in advance and I will let you guys know how it went here after! .
Hessen Bub
08-19-15, 23:53
Yes a Thursday (odd!) What is funny is that instead the birthday party in 2013 was on September 28th (Saturday)! Talk about a firm date. LOL.Oct 2nd is not so odd as Oct 3rd is a public holiday in Germany.
HB.
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
I have used a couple of hotels nearby. Search the maps on the internet to find them, closest are cheap and ok quality.
I felt it very safe to walk, also after midnight. 10 minutes of walking is good for you after hours of punting. If the closest hotels are occupied, I would use the S-bahn, also feels very safe.
Hey,
I am going to Berlin 2 days in September or Oktober and firt I wonder if there are any dates those months that are relly bad going becouse it will be crowded, holiday I Germany or anything else?
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
Thanks in advance and I will let you guys know how it went here after! .I have been in Artemis many times and I always stayed in Landmark Eco Hotel and Romantik Hotel Kronprinz. Area is really safe, I used to walk hotel from Artemis at 3 am.
I figured there would be guys like that in there. Not very pleasant. How would you describe the food there? Do they have good meats? Ha. Are you an advocate of going early in the day and week for a less crowded, less aggressive atmosphere? Or do you like the more selection of women but more crowded atmosphere of late in the day and late in the week?
Thanks!Food: Eatable. You will probably not get sick. But you would be better off if you left the place and ate a proper lunch somewhere else. Breakfast is OK, if the boring side. You pay for alcohol and the soft drinks are free.
Early vs late: Depends on the girl selection. As in preferred selection. If you fav girl works early then it pays off to head to Artemis around 12:00. However if you have no preference. Around 20:00 is good when it comes to diversity. I always found that early on the selections is bad but due to some of my fav girls working at that time I found the visit worthwhile. I don't find crowded atmosphere to be bad since many the LU is greater too.
Regardless vacation time is always bad for visiting Artemis since so many girls are gone and some of them that drop in in these times have bad service and / or are sharks.
MaxSquatter
08-20-15, 23:37
Food: Eatable. You will probably not get sick. But you would be better off if you left the place and ate a proper lunch somewhere else. Breakfast is OK, if the boring side. You pay for alcohol and the soft drinks are free.
Early vs late: Depends on the girl selection. As in preferred selection. If you fav girl works early then it pays off to head to Artemis around 12:00. However if you have no preference. Around 20:00 is good when it comes to diversity. I always found that early on the selections is bad but due to some of my fav girls working at that time I found the visit worthwhile. I don't find crowded atmosphere to be bad since many the LU is greater too.
Regardless vacation time is always bad for visiting Artemis since so many girls are gone and some of them that drop in in these times have bad service and / or are sharks.Should be going in early to mid October. So vacation timing should not be an issue. Thanks for the information. Does the food have meats or is it mostly just sweets and starches and such? Not the most important thing but am curious. Do the men swim in the nude like the women do in the pool? Also is traveling the you bahn or s bahn efficient enough that staying at a hotel in for instance Schoenberg would be manageable? I want to check out the street scene there as well as I have seen some beautiful women in various street videos and pics in that general area.
Thanks!
Hey,
I am going to Berlin 2 days in September or Oktober and firt I wonder if there are any dates those months that are relly bad going becouse it will be crowded, holiday I Germany or anything else?
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
Thanks in advance and I will let you guys know how it went here after! .Best two local hotels are Romantik (closest and cheapest) 5 minutes walk or Aspria - 1 minutes walk and great hotel with good gym and spa. 10 minutes walk. I've walked to the Art from these hotels 20 times without any problems. Enjoy and report back.
Also is traveling the you bahn or s bahn efficient enough that staying at a hotel in for instance Schoenberg would be manageable?Plug your journeys into Google maps and you'll get all the timetable information.
Marlboro Red
08-21-15, 16:45
Should be going in early to mid October. So vacation timing should not be an issue. Thanks for the information. Does the food have meats or is it mostly just sweets and starches and such? Not the most important thing but am curious. Do the men swim in the nude like the women do in the pool? Also is traveling the you bahn or s bahn efficient enough that staying at a hotel in for instance Schoenberg would be manageable? I want to check out the street scene there as well as I have seen some beautiful women in various street videos and pics in that general area.
Thanks!Swimming in the nude yes, but 'I have yet to see any of the girls go swimming.
WarmStone25
08-21-15, 20:28
I visited Artemis again last Friday. I followed the usual pattern and arrived just after midday. This is so that I can spend the day at Artemis. As usual the food was OK, but no more.
The weather was hot and parts of the interior warm and humid. The outside facilities were much enjoyed. On this occasion the inside pool was enjoyed also. I was approached several times by prowling girls, especially in the kino. They did not appear to change the film during the day. One tall girl from Turkey tried hard to get me to a room but her frustration showed in bad temper when I would not go. I went to the room with Gabriel from Poland. I found her looks attractive, cute, nice smooth well proportioned body, good performer in the room. She was of good humour throughout. I saw her with another man later showing the same humour and how cute she was. The heat was effecting my performance and after Gabriel I decided to call it a day as far as going to rooms was concerned. I did hang about a bit more just looking at the fresh talent that was coming in. I saw this girl about 1905 mm tall, beautifully proportioned except for her breasts, which were proportionally smaller with large nipples. I had to go and have another look. Before Gabriel, I had Sheila from Austria. God looking and well proportioned, did well in the room. When I spoke to her later in the day she appeared to be a little less friendly. I left about 7 pm in the evening. I arrived and left at Westkreutz S Bahn station. On the way out I found that the ticket machine would not take coins, so I had to use paper money. Apart from that little difficulty there was no problem. Another good day was had at Artemis. Next time I will come back when the weather is cooler.
MaxSquatter
08-21-15, 21:52
Saw this unfortunate news. Anyone know if this is going to happen and when if it does will it take effect? I don't speak German so I cannot do much news research on it. Would the forced condom proposal effect Artemis too?
http://www.globalpost.com/article/6618371/2015/07/17/germany-sex-worker-id
Hi all,
I have almost read all the Artemis threads and thank you all for this, I will without doubt share my first experience with you guys. As a newbie I almost feel experienced in someway, although this is my first time to a FFK club LOL: the.
I would like to add a question tho, so far I learned that you have to talk to the girl and feel chemistry before going to the room. So you buy her a drink and talk to this girl for about 5-10 minutes and then you reject her, saying you don't feel the chemistry to go to the room, wouldn't that be rude? LOL.
Anyway I'm going the weekend 9th, 10th and 11th October, I would be glad if anyone is going, and wants to heads up while inside the club, as I properly will smell like fresh fish ready for the sharks LOL.
UltraHappy
08-22-15, 14:45
Hi all,
I have almost read all the Artemis threads and thank you all for this, I will without doubt share my first experience with you guys. As a newbie I almost feel experienced in someway, although this is my first time to a FFK club LOL: the.
I would like to add a question tho, so far I learned that you have to talk to the girl and feel chemistry before going to the room. So you buy her a drink and talk to this girl for about 5-10 minutes and then you reject her, saying you don't feel the chemistry to go to the room, wouldn't that be rude? LOL.
Anyway I'm going the weekend 9th, 10th and 11th October, I would be glad if anyone is going, and wants to heads up while inside the club, as I properly will smell like fresh fish ready for the sharks LOL.First of all, you don't buy the girl a drink (I mean, you technically could, but it is not customary here). If the girl is thirsty, she just orders a drink from the bar.
Second, you should be able to make your decision relatively quickly based on a short initial chat, especially if you initiated the approach (max 1-2 minutes). If you initiate the approach and the chat continues a long time (e. G. 5-10 minutes or half hour), the girl will rightly be upset with you for wasting her time if the club is busy and you don't take her to the room. Still, you shouldn't go to the room with a girl if you're not feeling good about the way the conversation is going or if you start feeling red flags.
If she initiates the approach, you have a bit more leeway here in my book and you can just let things flow. If you don't initiate the approach, it is she who decided to waste her time chatting with you, not the other way around. Even in that case, however, you are leading her on a bit if you chat with her for 15-20 minutes and don't take her to the room.
Each situation and girl is different. There are exceptions to every rule and everything varies according to the particular situation. If you're a good looking guy that knows how to flirt with the girls and you're a stand-up comedian who is making them constantly laugh, they might enjoy spending an hour with you even if you don't take them to the room. Most guys don't have the personality to pull this off though. Usually, the girls are there to make money.
Just my two cents. Everyone here will give you their own advice which will differ from mine and you'll just have to figure out what works for you. With more experience, you will develop many of your own ways to gracefully exit conversations in kind ways without predisposing the girls to being upset that you didn't take them to the room. Probably not the best idea to say, "Sorry babe, this conversation sucked, not feeling the chemistry. Going to go look for a better chick now. " You'll manage to find much better conversation exits than that.
UltraHappy
08-22-15, 14:53
Saw this unfortunate news. Anyone know if this is going to happen and when if it does will it take effect?
http://www.globalpost.com/article/6618371/2015/07/17/germany-sex-worker-idThis article seems to suggest that its provisions would go into effect as early as next year if the law is finalized. Very disturbing.
"Under the proposed new rules, German sex workers would have to register with authorities and carry a special identification card with them at all times starting next year. ".
AColonizer
08-22-15, 15:31
I don't know what is disturbing or wrong.
The problem is in the people's mind. Prostitution is a job as any other. And morality and religion is a way to hide the real nature of the world.
I know prostitution too and I don't think by testicles (or ovaries), such as I don't change my opinion according to the need to have an orgasm.
I am sure that is the best solution to make prostitution with the same respect of any other job and to make prostitution a honest job for everybody.
But in this case, the problem is not a morality or a religion, instead the problem is what prostitutes and pimps want to hide: wealth without paying fiscal contributions to society.
Drug trafficking, from pimps to prostitutes and from prostitutes to customers, since each sex market exists with a parallel market of light and heavy dope.
I am a honest person and I want each person is equal to all other persons. If prostitutes and pimps want to live outside the regular society, then they can't take advantage of social services because that should be deeply unfair for honest people.
This article seems to suggest that its provisions would go into effect as early as next year if the law is finalized. Very disturbing.
"Under the proposed new rules, German sex workers would have to register with authorities and carry a special identification card with them at all times starting next year. ".
I don't know what is disturbing or wrong.
The problem is in the people's mind. Prostitution is a job as any other. And morality and religion is a way to hide the real nature of the world.
But in this case, the problem is not a morality or a religion, instead the problem is what prostitutes and pimps want to hide: wealth without paying fiscal contributions to society.
If prostitutes and pimps want to live outside the regular society, then they can't take advantage of social services because that should be deeply unfair for honest people.Sorry for editing the post down to the above but I didn't understand why you meant by the rest of it. Prostitution is legal in Germany. The girls pay taxes. The clubs pay taxes. The only people who don't pay taxes are pimps and there are few in FKKs in my experience other than some who are "drivers" for girls and wait outside. They should be strung up not just paying taxes.
As to the proposed new laws: I've posted many times about what I consider to be the wholly unhealthy practice of BBBJ. I know people hate reading anything about STDs on these forums. I think that is just natural defensive mentality against spoiling this hobby (addiction?) for most. Truth is that this practice is not safe. Artemis is one of the best clubs in Germany (if not THE best) for safety in that there is a club doctor who the girls see often weekly if not definitely monthly. They trust the doctor. Most of the girls will tell you that they have never had an STD and they have only seldom come across it in any FKK. However the truth cannot be denied: if a new guy goes into an FKK with an infection and has BBBJ from Girl A, she then passes it to every guy she rooms with that day if she performs BBBJ. The doctor doesn't see the girl after every room! If she sees 10 guys that day she has infected people. Not her fault but she got it off the new guy. Then those 10 guys who got infected go to other FKKs and infect the people they room with and take BBBJ from. It is really quite unsafe. For those reasons, I think a law requiring condoms is right. For oral sex. Girls who (outside of FKKs) demand condoms for hand relief -- oh yes. It happens. Crazy. It is not possible to get an STD other than HPV (which can be caught from any human contact) from hand relief. So condoms for all intercourse and oral are fine with me and would make FKKs almost completely safe. There will be SO many guys reading this wanting to write "I've been doing this for 15 years and had 12000 BBBJs without a problem". That's what people always respond with. Please don't. Consider how silly that is. It's like saying you've lived 50 years and have visited dangerous places and never been murdered. Great for you. What about the one time it DOES happen? Escaping these issues for years does not mean you are invincible. You are not. Let's keep FKKs safe for everyone. If you love BBBJ then go buy Sagami condoms or equivalent online from Japan. No. I don't work for them! There are similar condoms which are. Wait for this 1/6th of the width of human skin. You don't know you have them on and they are so strong and safe despite being so thin. You won't know you've got one on and I can tell you I've never had a girl refuse to allow me to use my own condoms provided they are in the sealed packet first.
As for IDs for the girls? Is it so bad? If it means not one girl is trafficked then its a good thing.
So bad news? Not really. Could be good!
UltraHappy
08-22-15, 18:27
Most of the girls will tell you that they have never had an STD and they have only seldom come across it in any FKK. However the truth cannot be denied: if a new guy goes into an FKK with an infection and has BBBJ from Girl A, she then passes it to every guy she rooms with that day if she performs BBBJ. The doctor doesn't see the girl after every room! If she sees 10 guys that day she has infected people. Not her fault but she got it off the new guy. Then those 10 guys who got infected go to other FKKs and infect the people they room with and take BBBJ from. It is really quite unsafe. For those reasons, You are clearly overstating the risks. If a girl has a cold and kisses 10 different guys that day, it is not 100% certain that each and every one of those guys will get a cold. I've kissed plenty of girls who had a cold and I did not become infected with a cold afterwards.
Same thing with BBBJs. It is not simply enough that a person is infected. There are other factors in place (viral and bacterial loads, strength of immune system, etc). Indeed, the literature supports the fact that even with BBBJs with an infected person, the risk of actually passing an infection on to someone else is still really low. It is not zero, but it is rather low. Even with this low risk, for many types of infection, one can mitigate many of these risks by regular checkups and treatments / cures if something comes up.
There are risks with most activities in life (driving, working, etc). The presence of a risk doesn't necessarily mean that we automatically outlaw that activity, but instead, that we make intelligent choices about the activities we engage in and the risk we are each willing to accept. No one is forcing you to accept BBBJs. It is your choice (not yet at least, unless this law is passed).
In any case, this is not the safe sex thread, but the Artemis thread, so I'd recommend we get back to discussing Artemis.
MaxSquatter
08-22-15, 20:45
You are clearly overstating the risks. If a girl has a cold and kisses 10 different guys that day, it is not 100% certain that each and every one of those guys will get a cold. I've kissed plenty of girls who had a cold and I did not become infected with a cold afterwards.
Same thing with BBBJs. It is not simply enough that a person is infected. There are other factors in place (viral and bacterial loads, strength of immune system, etc). Indeed, the literature supports the fact that even with BBBJs with an infected person, the risk of actually passing an infection on to someone else is still really low. It is not zero, but it is rather low. Even with this low risk, for many types of infection, one can mitigate many of these risks by regular checkups and treatments / cures if something comes up.
There are risks with most activities in life (driving, working, etc). The presence of a risk doesn't necessarily mean that we automatically outlaw that activity, but instead, that we make intelligent choices about the activities we engage in and the risk we are each willing to accept. No one is forcing you to accept BBBJs. It is your choice (not yet at least, unless this law is passed).
In any case, this is not the safe sex thread, but the Artemis thread, so I'd recommend we get back to discussing Artemis.Well said. I agree completely. I guess what would be best is to find someone who is adept at German to research Germany's news on this topic. Would it apply to BBBJ's? Would it apply to Artemis. And when? Pretty sad to see freedoms being lost in this way.
PussyLiccker
08-22-15, 22:11
Plug your journeys into Google maps and you'll get all the timetable information.If you look on the Bahn map, you notice the ring how the main part of the system circles. Good revelation when I realized that for the first time. You see one map showing a airplane sign(Tegel) with a bus route going to a train station which is part of the ring.
Wolvenvacht
08-23-15, 11:37
I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.
I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.Computer says yes.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1236128
I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.There are at least two Asian women that have been in Artemis whenever I was visiting except last weekend (one older, 40+, and one younger. Never sessioned with them). Black (African?) women are easier to find. But last time I was visiting (last weekend and July) there was only one present (bad sessions, strange / bad BJ technique and list of extras that other girls do for free).
Well said. I agree completely. I guess what would be best is to find someone who is adept at German to research Germany's news on this topic. Would it apply to BBBJ's? Would it apply to Artemis. And when? Pretty sad to see freedoms being lost in this way.I agree with UH that this is really a topic for the Safe Sex forum and not Artemis. However I was responding to a post here about the laws changing in Germany. Which is specific to Germany and not the whole of ISG (which Safe Sex is). Stats suggest Germany is high risk UH's point was entirely fair. It depends on many factors and of course it is always the choice for us all to say we want to use condoms even for BBBJ. I do, but I respect that others prefer not to and take the risk. But the figures here show that in Germany that risk is quite substantial albeit that they are extrapolated figures. http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/s/stds/stats-country.htm.
Enforcing the use of condoms is, I agree an interference with freedom of choice. I just wonder if the reason the law is even being contemplated in Germany is a response to very high figures and therefore an attempt to control them.
I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.There is a beautiful black girl. Gina. Very pretty and great service. There are several other african girls. Two thai girls as reported by others.
Marlboro Red
08-24-15, 03:23
Sorry for editing the post down to the above but I didn't understand why you meant by the rest of it. Prostitution is legal in Germany. The girls pay taxes. The clubs pay taxes. The only people who don't pay taxes are pimps and there are few in FKKs in my experience other than some who are "drivers" for girls and wait outside. They should be strung up not just paying taxes.
As to the proposed new laws: I've posted many times about what I consider to be the wholly unhealthy practice of BBBJ. I know people hate reading anything about STDs on these forums. I think that is just natural defensive mentality against spoiling this hobby (addiction?) for most. Truth is that this practice is not safe. Artemis is one of the best clubs in Germany (if not THE best) for safety in that there is a club doctor who the girls see often weekly if not definitely monthly. They trust the doctor. Most of the girls will tell you that they have never had an STD and they have only seldom come across it in any FKK. However the truth cannot be denied: if a new guy goes into an FKK with an infection and has BBBJ from Girl A, she then passes it to every guy she rooms with that day if she performs BBBJ. The doctor doesn't see the girl after every room! If she sees 10 guys that day she has infected people. Not her fault but she got it off the new guy. Then those 10 guys who got infected go to other FKKs and infect the people they room with and take BBBJ from. It is really quite unsafe. For those reasons, I think a law requiring condoms is right. For oral sex. Girls who (outside of FKKs) demand condoms for hand relief -- oh yes. It happens. Crazy. It is not possible to get an STD other than HPV (which can be caught from any human contact) from hand relief. So condoms for all intercourse and oral are fine with me and would make FKKs almost completely safe. There will be SO many guys reading this wanting to write "I've been doing this for 15 years and had 12000 BBBJs without a problem". That's what people always respond with. Please don't. Consider how silly that is. It's like saying you've lived 50 years and have visited dangerous places and never been murdered. Great for you. What about the one time it DOES happen? Escaping these issues for years does not mean you are invincible. You are not. Let's keep FKKs safe for everyone. If you love BBBJ then go buy Sagami condoms or equivalent online from Japan. No. I don't work for them! There are similar condoms which are. Wait for this 1/6th of the width of human skin. You don't know you have them on and they are so strong and safe despite being so thin. You won't know you've got one on and I can tell you I've never had a girl refuse to allow me to use my own condoms provided they are in the sealed packet first.
As for IDs for the girls? Is it so bad? If it means not one girl is trafficked then its a good thing.
So bad news? Not really. Could be good!Let me clarify something. While there have been documented cases of std being passed to the man, there have not been any documented (or just one) case of a man contracting HIV when receiving a bank. So while the threat is low I. E. Not zero, the instance is so low as it has yet to happen. So, take your choice. For some, it is ok for bank and others not. It is the choice of the individual.
DethManRulz
08-24-15, 13:30
Let me clarify something. While there have been documented cases of std being passed to the man, there have not been any documented (or just one) case of a man contracting HIV when receiving a bank. So while the threat is low I. E. Not zero, the instance is so low as it has yet to happen. So, take your choice. For some, it is ok for bank and others not. It is the choice of the individual.Who's talking about HIV? HIV doesn't get passed from oral sex.
It's the other STD's that one has to worry about from BBBJ, and despite mongers generally sticking their heads in the sand. Is a very real issue.
First of all, you don't buy the girl a drink (I mean, you technically could, but it is not customary here). If the girl is thirsty, she just orders a drink from the bar.
Second, you should be able to make your decision relatively quickly based on a short initial chat, especially if you initiated the approach (max 1-2 minutes). If you initiate the approach and the chat continues a long time (e. G. 5-10 minutes or half hour), the girl will rightly be upset with you for wasting her time if the club is busy and you don't take her to the room. Still, you shouldn't go to the room with a girl if you're not feeling good about the way the conversation is going or if you start feeling red flags.
If she initiates the approach, you have a bit more leeway here in my book and you can just let things flow. If you don't initiate the approach, it is she who decided to waste her time chatting with you, not the other way around. Even in that case, however, you are leading her on a bit if you chat with her for 15-20 minutes and don't take her to the room.
Each situation and girl is different. There are exceptions to every rule and everything varies according to the particular situation...UH thank you for the info, I will try remember this, however it will properly be the wrong head thinking if its a very cute girl LOL.
But yes I will try to catch if there is a wrong feeling after a few minutes, usually I can judge by a girls smile and kindness.
Who's talking about HIV? HIV doesn't get passed from oral sex.
It's the other STD's that one has to worry about from BBBJ, and despite mongers generally sticking their heads in the sand. Is a very real issue.Absolutely. I am not sure why mongers are SO defensive about this. Every time anyone posts anything about risk they get rounded upon as if they'd committed a crime! It's simple this. There are STD risks in receiving and / or giving oral sex and exchanging bodily fluids. The risks are not that high. But they are increased if you or the person with whom you are sharing bodily fluids have multiple sexual partners. Both monger and sex workers in FKK fall into that category. I'm not being holy and virtuous here: I am a monger! I simply responded to a post suggesting a new law in Germany which will make condoms a requirement and I said that it is likely to be a reaction to large STD figures in Germany (which is true and the highest in Europe). I agree it's an interference with personal choice. But it is also probably sensible to reduce risks. I didn't mention HIV at all. Which requires unprotected intercourse to be passed in nearly every case. Which is not relevant in an FKK.
Anyway. As UH says. Let's get back to hearing how you guys are doing in the Art. Which girls are you enjoying and why. With or without the condoms!
Do anyone of you know if Artemis or any other club around Berlin, grant you free entry on your birthday. Would be good to know as my birthday matches my travel dates to Berlin!
UH thank you for the info, I will try remember this, however it will properly be the wrong head thinking if its a very cute girl LOL.
But yes I will try to catch if there is a wrong feeling after a few minutes, usually I can judge by a girls smile and kindness.Girls' smiles are fake.
Nah, just kidding. Lots of guys are loitering around small lockers and stairs and observing guys that have been just in a session. If he is happy = girl gives good service.
I know couple of punters that swear by this tactic. I personally think that if girl works well for someone else it doesn't mean that you two will click with her. The only advice I can give is to avoid optifucks. I swear any girl that I went with because of her looks turned into a bad session.
Do anyone of you know if Artemis or any other club around Berlin, grant you free entry on your birthday. Would be good to know as my birthday matches my travel dates to Berlin!Artemis doesn't do that. So you better have those 80 euros ready when you enter or you'll be exiting pretty fast.
Do anyone of you know if Artemis or any other club around Berlin, grant you free entry on your birthday. Would be good to know as my birthday matches my travel dates to Berlin!Unfortunately, Artemis doesn't grant free admission at your birthday.
Marlboro Red
08-25-15, 21:40
Who's talking about HIV? HIV doesn't get passed from oral sex.
It's the other STD's that one has to worry about from BBBJ, and despite mongers generally sticking their heads in the sand. Is a very real issue.Fair enough, and for some the risk is acceptable, and for some not. I am in the not camp, but I do not want to infringe on some else fun as it does not have any effect on me.
If you look on the Bahn map, you notice the ring how the main part of the system circles. Good revelation when I realized that for the first time. You see one map showing a airplane sign(Tegel) with a bus route going to a train station which is part of the ring.Hi. Can someone provide directions how to reach Artemis. Bahn or whatever is the best public transport. How late does the Bahn run? Thanks.
PussyLiccker
08-26-15, 06:55
Hi. Can someone provide directions how to reach Artemis. Bahn or whatever is the best public transport. How late does the Bahn run? Thanks.I don't know where you are coming from, but just to add to what I said about the public transport, the train ring on the map has two tracks that goes in opposite directions. If you look you will see Westkruez stop is one of the stops in the ring. Artemis is around the Westkruez stop, so you walk from there. If you are coming from the airport, you will see Tegel on bahn map with three buses hitting the ring (routes shown in purple from the airport). Buses X9 and 109 goes to Junfernheide station, and TXL goes to Buesselstrasse station. From either those stations you take the train to Westkruez.
Bahn map: https://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/pdf/VBB-Liniennetz.pdf.
Local transit website: http://fahrinfo.bvg.de/Fahrinfo/bin/query.bin/en.
Have you guys seen Geraldine from Hungary? Has she quit FKK business and left Artemis or?
ZimmerBaby
08-28-15, 22:34
Have you guys seen Geraldine from Hungary? Has she quit FKK business and left Artemis or?Sessioned her 3 weeks ago. Beautiful girl. Fantastic BBBJCIM. I hope Bill Clinton had the same sensation during his visits and sessions in the oral office.
PL: Thanks, still to figure out the hotel. Everything seems insanely expensive 1st weekend of September. Is something going on in Berlin.
Any specific areas and hotels I could look at, as long as near some subway and restaurants etc. That should work for me.
Is there a place to store luggage at Artemis, just a tiny suitcase, I have a early morning flight on my way out.
Thanks again,
Sanjay.
I don't know where you are coming from, but just to add to what I said about the public transport, the train ring on the map has two tracks that goes in opposite directions. If you look you will see Westkruez stop is one of the stops in the ring. Artemis is around the Westkruez stop, so you walk from there. If you are coming from the airport, you will see Tegel on bahn map with three buses hitting the ring (routes shown in purple from the airport). Buses X9 and 109 goes to Junfernheide station, and TXL goes to Buesselstrasse station. From either those stations you take the train to Westkruez.
Bahn map: https://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/pdf/VBB-Liniennetz.pdf.
Local transit website: http://fahrinfo.bvg.de/Fahrinfo/bin/query.bin/en.
PussyLiccker
08-30-15, 20:32
IFA Messe which draws visitors to the city is from 4th to 9th of Sept, which is the reason for the hotel price hike. Look on Booking or Kayak.com. I haven't done trips there much to give you specific recommendations on places to stay, but I look for rates on the websites. Possible there are places the websites don't come up, but I don't have info on those places. Look online and see if there are types of food you like, and do a search. Popular restaurants will show up on Yelp. It's probably worth checking out some hotspots in Berlin while you are there. There could be other online websites that Germans use for restaurant reviewing websites I'm not aware of. Quick foods tend to be pretty low priced in DE, I sometimes walk into a town square and get a wurst dog, other types of wurst like curry, small hamberger shops or chicken places, Turkish restaurants tend to be ok for quick bites. Big city, and I'm sure there are lots of places specializing in various cuisines. I tend to find closer authentic foreign places too like Chinese and Japanese tend to be good too. Most of my restaurant visits has been in Frankfurt actually when I used to stay in the city.
Maybe others familiar with Berlin could tell us any particularity to Berlin cuisine to seek out.
Artemis has a storage room if you ask the front desk, and you will probably see other luggages in there as well.
If you can provided us with how your visit went during the IFA Messe, that would be interesting.
Thanks PL for prompt reply, so this Messe is making a mess of everything. I almost can't find any hotel less than 200 . I have already bought my air tickets. So I will have to come up with some clever strategy.
I will wait for someone to respond about locations. Any suitable touristy location is OK. Need not be any prime location, some minutes from subway. That is all.
Thanks.
Sam.
IFA Messe which draws visitors to the city is from 4th to 9th of Sept, which is the reason for the hotel price hike. Look on Booking or Kayak.com. I haven't done trips there much to give you specific recommendations on places to stay, but I look for rates on the websites. Possible there are places the websites don't come up, but I don't have info on those places. Look online and see if there are types of food you like, and do a search. Popular restaurants will show up on Yelp. It's probably worth checking out some hotspots in Berlin while you are there. There could be other online websites that Germans use for restaurant reviewing websites I'm not aware of. Quick foods tend to be pretty low priced in DE, I sometimes walk into a town square and get a wurst dog, other types of wurst like curry, small hamberger shops or chicken places, Turkish restaurants tend to be ok for quick bites. Big city, and I'm sure there are lots of places specializing in various cuisines. I tend to find closer authentic foreign places too like Chinese and Japanese tend to be good too. Most of my restaurant visits has been in Frankfurt actually when I used to stay in the city.
Maybe others familiar with Berlin could tell us any particularity to Berlin cuisine to seek out.
Artemis has a storage room if you ask the front desk, and you will probably see other luggages in there as well.
If you can provided us with how your visit went during the IFA Messe, that would be interesting.
Can anyone tell me if Fatima is still around?
Thanks.
BackpackBrian
08-31-15, 04:44
Can you bring and use your own condoms in Artemis and any other FKK??
I just bought some Aoni thinnest condoms in the world and it would be nice to use them in the FKK.
I know the answer is probably yes, but if the girl sees that the condom is really thin will she freak out and make you use hers?
BackpackBrian
08-31-15, 07:03
Do the girls care if I use my own condoms? Even if they are the super thin ones from China (Aoni) and the Sagami. 01 brands?
Do the girls thinks they are less safe?
I've been at Artemis about 50 times (days), and I still don't know who this Fatima who I keep reading about here on the forum is. What does she look like? And where is she from? Can anyone discribe her?
Hermann666
08-31-15, 15:48
Do the girls care if I use my own condoms? Even if they are the super thin ones from China (Aoni) and the Sagami. 01 brands?
Do the girls thinks they are less safe?I've heard about some guys bringing their own rubbers. It's probably up to the girl if she will accept them or not. I've been thinking about bringing some wider condoms myself but it could be a bit awkward if she doesn't accept to use them.
I've been at Artemis about 50 times (days), and I still don't know who this Fatima who I keep reading about here on the forum is. What does she look like? And where is she from? Can anyone discribe her?Quite tall, maybe 172 - 175 cm, very slim and athletic, black hair slicked back, cut shoulder length. Tramp stamp, plus small dragon head tattoo on her lower abdomen. A cup. I find her look to be very elegant. She's from Slovakia. Works the day shift and tends to hang out on her own at the far end of the bar.
My own view is that she will probably leave the club soon. Maybe she already left?
Could be. My general impression is that the girls sitting at the far end of the bar doesn't really like the romanian sofa group.
ChernosoBranie
08-31-15, 18:42
Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.
My own view is that she will probably leave the club soon. Maybe she already left?No. Not yet.
Can anyone tell me if Fatima is still around?She returned last week.
Can anyone discribe her?Check Artemis website, you'll find a last-year-pic of her backside there. Note: she usually doesn't wear that overknees.
No. Not yet.
She returned last week.Thanks Pharisaer.
Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.Female guests not allowed.
Digi Man65
09-01-15, 12:28
Did anybody have an experience with a black girl at Artemis. Am going to Berlin this week for the IFA show and was hoping somebody would have some suggestions for me.
Did anybody have an experience with a black girl at Artemis. Am going to Berlin this week for the IFA show and was hoping somebody would have some suggestions for me.I would recommend Valesca and Gina.
Gina is from Namibia and gives great service. Curvy figure, long hair extensions. Maybe 165 cm. Excellent English and very friendly. I suspect that she might be very high maintenance in the real world!
Valesca is German, but of African descent. I can't remember which country. Slim, be cup. Amazing ass. Can be a bit passive in the room, but is very beautiful and tries to please. Her English was not so good, although I have not been with her for some time.
I also recommend Valeska. She is German-African like Frozty writes.
I spent three times in the room with her last year on my visits.
I think she's one of the most beautiful girls there and very cute. I would definitely spend time with her again if I went to Artemis.
She's still my favourite black girl in the world.
Another one I recommend is Kimi from Kenya.
Funny thing is all of my experiences with black girls are from Artemis. I have never met attractive black girls on other FKK clubs.
Her mother is German and her father is from Mozambique. She kind of looks like Rihanna.
Is the name she uses written as Valesca or Valeska?
I never figured to ask.
Is the name she uses written as Valesca or Valeska?According to Artemis website, the correct spelling is Valeska.
Hermann666
09-01-15, 21:19
Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.As someone already responded female guests are not allowed at Artemis but I have read several comments here on ISG that some of the Hessen clubs welcome female guests.
As someone already responded female guests are not allowed at Artemis but I have read several comments here on ISG that some of the Hessen clubs welcome female guests.I think Oase allows couples. I saw a nebbishy looking guy with his frumpy Asian girlfriend there once. She seemed like she was enjoying herself more than he was! I think I understand. If you go there with a partner, you have to be careful about not seeming like you're enjoying yourself too much, lest you inspire jealousy in your partner!
Damn, there's this one girl that I was with 3-4 weeks ago but I didn't catch her name!
She had dark hair, half German and half Arabic, and had a piercing on her lip. Not 100% sure on the German part, but half Arabic for sure. She had an accent. 5'8+.
Anyone know her?
Hermann666
09-02-15, 08:53
Has anyone seen Cheyenne at Artemis lately? She's the best girl I have ever sessioned with at the Art and I have met her more than once. Hope to see her on my next visit in a couple of months.
Damn, there's this one girl that I was with 3-4 weeks ago but I didn't catch her name!
She had dark hair, half German and half Arabic, and had a piercing on her lip. Not 100% sure on the German part, but half Arabic for sure. She had an accent. 5'8+.
Anyone know her?Sounds like Sina / Zina. Does she have a pistol tattoo on her hip?
ChernosoBranie
09-02-15, 20:07
As someone already responded female guests are not allowed at Artemis but I have read several comments here on ISG that some of the Hessen clubs welcome female guests.Oh well, thanks for that. Never heard of Hessen clubs will look them up now and possibly move onto plan B.
Oh well, thanks for that. Never heard of Hessen clubs will look them up now and possibly move onto plan B.Hello ChernosoBranie.
I have personally seen a party of 4 or 5 men bring in 2 female companions at Mainhatten. These girls were issued robes, just like the men and partied in and around the bar area with bottle service. Later, I saw the group head over to the hot tubs for a quick nude skinny dip. I cannot say for sure what Mainhatten's policy is, but I would give them a call if you are still interested in inviting your female companion.
Best of luck.
FiddyCent.
Septimus1974
09-04-15, 14:51
Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.I have visited a Club in Bremen together With my girlfriend and a Place outside Bremen, about one hour witth car, Dolce Vita is the Place. She liked both Places a lot, but my girl friend likes Young guys so she liked Dolce Vite best of them. I could recommend both this Places if you want to bring Your wife or girlfriend. To me it were a great experience and I enjoyed watching my girlfriend getting fucked by other men and she enjoyed it herself a lot as well, She spent time With four men in a day and the best session she had were With two men at the same time. She were on all four and, butt up and the first one did her very quick and the second replaced him and did her from rear as well.
Hermann666
09-04-15, 17:41
I have visited a Club in Bremen together With my girlfriend and a Place outside Bremen, about one hour witth car, Dolce Vita is the Place. She liked both Places a lot, but my girl friend likes Young guys so she liked Dolce Vite best of them. I could recommend both this Places if you want to bring Your wife or girlfriend. To me it were a great experience and I enjoyed watching my girlfriend getting fucked by other men and she enjoyed it herself a lot as well, She spent time With four men in a day and the best session she had were With two men at the same time. She were on all four and, butt up and the first one did her very quick and the second replaced him and did her from rear as well.I think you are referring to swinger clubs now. Even in the FKK clubs where women are allowed entry they are not allowed to have sex with the male visitors.
DethManRulz
09-05-15, 20:03
Hi folks, just a quick question. Do the ladies still get tested every couple weeks?
Blue Swede
09-05-15, 20:25
Hi folks, just a quick question. Do the ladies still get tested every couple weeks?I just watched some manager chasing girls to the second floor for what I think is testing. So, I assume the answer is: yes.
DethManRulz
09-05-15, 20:47
I just watched some manager chasing girls to the second floor for what I think is testing. So, I assume the answer is: yes.LOL, hopefully the ladies don't have something to hide.
MaxSquatter
09-06-15, 05:05
Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.
Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.No. Towels are your only option.
I'd worry about hygiene issues anyway.
Crazy house due to messe. Girls claimed that it was up to one hour waiting time at second floor for free room. I left early on Friday due to crowds.
Lineup was OK-ish. Good variation both on Friday and Saturday compared to my earlier visit but not earthshattering. Saw Jenna but no Holly. Jennai (name? Girl with glasses is recommended due to massage skills (if you are into it. She charges as much as the masseurs downstairs but I prefer her 30 min of massage much more due to stuff that happens afterwards.).
Honestly I got bit bored by Artemis so I will look for change of scenery.
Blue Swede
09-06-15, 16:38
LOL, hopefully the ladies don't have something to hide.I think they are reluctant to miss valuable "production" time. .
At other times I have seen something similar, but then they all came down with a band aid on their arms.
I have the impression Artemis is on top on health issues as good as possible.
Damn, there's this one girl that I was with 3-4 weeks ago but I didn't catch her name!
She had dark hair, half German and half Arabic, and had a piercing on her lip. Not 100% sure on the German part, but half Arabic for sure. She had an accent. 5'8+.
Anyone know her?I had a Hungarian / Arabic girl named Loreen. Nice athletic body, long dark silky hair. I reviewed her around August 10th. Very hot time and very good BJ.
Did anyone get a sense that quite a few dudes in Artemis didn't get any pussy? It's got to be pretty sad if you can't get laid in a working girl house. I went solo but saw groups of guys that never had any women around them the entire time.
Hermann666
09-07-15, 14:59
Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.When I visited Artemis in January they were using sheets on the beds. During all the other visits they have been using towels. If you want a blanket and cuddling I think an hotel escort is a better choice. An FKK is more of a Mc Donald's drive in whereas a hotel escort is fine a la carte dining.
Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.Romantic? Sentimentality? Dude, you're getting a raw BJ and sex for about $70. I think cuddling afterward would be considered a fetish that she would charge extra for.
Did anyone get a sense that quite a few dudes in Artemis didn't get any pussy? It's got to be pretty sad if you can't get laid in a working girl house. I went solo but saw groups of guys that never had any women around them the entire time.More likely they rejected girls enough girls that they are no longer bothered by them. Or the girls know them (as in they know they go only for certain girls or they know that they spent all their money). Then you have the jerk brigade that gets avoided except by the most desperate girls.
I noticed that by my fourth visit the girls started to recognize me and the sharks stopped bothering me. So I can sit in the bar alone, being bothered by the only new girls while other girls greet me and tell me that my favorite is busy or on vacation. So for you I would be looking like I am most of the time. But even the guy weighing 150 kg with lots of acne on his face will get laid in Artemis. And if he likes stuff that girl charges extra for (except anal) he will be very popular indeed. Don't have the slightest illusion that your look matters (I had car accident which left its marks on my face. Not had any negative reaction in Artemis in contrast to the ones I get from girls in real life.).
Hi,
Does anybody know if the little, tattooed, Bulgarian girl Carrie is in the Artemis at the moment.
I did like her funny but slutty way in the room a lot.
Thanks for an answer.
She's one of the best looking girls I've seen around the FKK clubs and her service is ok not more then this but only to be with such a bomb in the same room is a pleasure.
I don't know if she's in the club now but I hope she will be in November when ill visit.
Hi,
Does anybody know if the little, tattooed, Bulgarian girl Carrie is in the Artemis at the moment.
I did like her funny but slutty way in the room a lot.
Thanks for an answer.
Upcoming return to Artemis (not been since summer) - can anyone tell me if Cecile and Ruby are back? Both blonde, sit at far end of bar as you enter the lounge towards the dining room. Also pretty small brunette Joanne (Kazikstan)? And finally my fav from last trip. Debby? Just wondered if all / any of them are still in the club before I return? Thanks.
Nille Copenhagen
09-21-15, 11:12
Also pretty small brunette Joanne (Kazikstan)?.Is she Borat's sister? LOL.
Is she Borat's sister? LOL.Not sure or even might be his Mrs. Either way. Pretty as anything and very sexy though had she worn a lime green mankini I'm not so sure I'd have taken her to the room!
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