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Lavalampan2010
08-05-16, 09:38
Was there yesterday. Some tried to sell CIM and CIF for 60 but some sand French kissing was free because I had such a beautiful face they said haha. The thing that pissed me off though was that every girl I talked to wanted extra for 69 and then another extra for finger inside.
Member #4399
08-06-16, 09:19
I want to be in Berlin and Frankfurt in late August early September. Will this be a bad time for the LU at different FKK's including Artemis. Should I wait until mid September or later?Near Artemis there is a Messe (Exhibition). When there is a Messe the LU will usually be good. Here is the link to the exhibitions: http://www.messe-berlin.de/en/Organizers/EventCalendar/TradeShows/.
If you hover your mouse over the dates the Event will show up. In August there is one event only (Pferde is Horses). In September there are quite a lot of exhibitions.
One catch: almost all exhibitions draw a lot of visitors to Artemis and the girls know about this and anticipate. But there is some exhibitions that do not draw these many customers. I don't know which ones exactly. But the IFA: 2-7 September and InnoTrans: 20-23 September should be save.
Nooky Ninja
08-06-16, 18:46
Near Artemis there is a Messe (Exhibition). When there is a Messe the LU will usually be good. But there is some exhibitions that do not draw these many customers. I don't know which ones exactly. But the IFA: 2-7 September and InnoTrans: 20-23 September should be save.If you are a sardine or an ant, you don't want to miss A during IFA.
Been reported over last 10 years how completely stressed out are all Artemis systems during IFA, how you can easily wait 1 hour for room, or 30 min by reception just to get available locker, girls exhausted, etc. LU good but you have to leave early like 20:00 if you don't want to die. Also idea of "don't miss other exhibitions, though not sure which ones" - could be advices from Donald Trump. Internet is nice but correlations not facts.
@Backpack Brian - come later.....
Member #4399
08-08-16, 18:37
Been reported over last 10 years how completely stressed out are all Artemis systems during IFA Does this mean that you actually do pass on information from others? So what is the value of this? Are you one of those who starts looking for info on other websites and then reports about it like it is your own experience. What is the value of that?
how you can easily wait 1 hour for roomLet me explain about waiting for a room. You go upstairs with the girl and you sit by her side for an hour, that's not bad! Many people want presales. You got a beauty by your side for one hour. What is your problem with that? I didn't spend much more than 20 minutes in the last years and I wish a few of those waits would have been longer.
or 30 min by reception just to get available lockerI have asked this question on other threads and I wonder again in this one: "Have you even been there?" The lockers go up to 800. I asked staff about that. It has never happened that all lockers are taken. Artemis is big but not this big.
girls exhaustedFrom waiting one hour for each session?
you have to leave early like 20:00 if you don't want to dieIn 2013 I was there on a big Messe event. It was like Dolce Vita, especially after 20:00. A once in your life time experience. This is what I wrote about it (other website).
the girls keep coming in and some are really very beautiful. One looks like a real porn star. Most important is the atmosphere. It is really a bit elated, over the top, super-erotic. Everybody seems to be enjoying this particular evening. In this atmosphere any girl seems beautiful. Even the ones that I didn't think to be beautiful at first. No problem. They are beautiful enough in this atmosphere.
Later I summarized it like this on yet another website.
When there is a Messe however, Artemis changes in the evening. More and more beautiful girls arrive. The atmosphere is very erotic. It's really elated. There is a glow to each and every girl. Men keep coming in. Even after midnight large groups of men may enter. Italians, French, Russians shouting all over the place.
"don't miss other exhibitions, though not sure which ones"Although usually a Messe will attract many men and many girls and very beautiful ones, sometimes there is a Messe that simply does not attract the right men. I translated August's Messe for you (Pferde = Horses) as you can expect many females on that Messe event. I have been told about this Messe link to Artemis by several girls. I have confronted them with this once that it did not work out. They could not tell me why and so I can't tell you either. I try to be as neutral and objective as I possibly can. No one can tell you a sure way or a sure date. With the link to the Messe you can do your own planning. You might even go for a non-Messe day, just to have a bigger chance to a quiet day.
could be advices from Donald TrumpBy comparing me to Donald Trump you have hit the wrong button. It's gross. What are you thinking and what are you intending? Why on Earth did the administrator let this one pass. It is awful. I will not post here any longer.
Internet is nice but correlations not facts.The website with the Messe events are very much a fact. Why are you writing here for? All you wrote is made up of hearsay, not even a correlation between two facts.
Lavalampan2010
08-08-16, 19:57
I visited Artemis for my first time last weekend and god dammit I was nervous when I was entering the building haha. Payed the entrance fee and hit the showers. Thanks to this forum and the Swedish forum I had a lot of knowledge how things worked in there so I really didn't have any problems with sharks and all the girls where polite and friendly. I was there only for one day and I picked three girls that I fucked.
Jennie, Moldavia.
My original plan was to wait a bit and really kind of interview the girls I wanted to have sex with so I could strike a bargain and get things cheap. But when Jennie came down the stairs to the spa area I just couldn't resist when she started to talk to me. It was her first time back since she had a vacation and she was very friendly. I told her I just wanted a little suck and fuck for 60 euros and she was fine with that, she didn't try to sell anything extra. I asked if 69 was included in the 60 euros and she said why not. Since it was my first time with a prostitute I was extremely nervous and after I fucked her for a little bit my soldier died. He really didn't want to wake up after that. I really liked Jennie though and would do her again in a heartbeat if my dick would want to.
Franceska, Romania.
After a while I decided I wanted to try again and one girl with glasses who had a smoking body and a beautiful pussy asked me if I wanted to go upstairs with her. I said I still had to rest and ran down to the bar. While at the bar my mind started to wandering towards her and I really felt how my dick started to work again. I quickly went upstairs and check if she was still there and she was! She asked me if I was ready now and I said I was. We went up to the room and I did the same procedure as last time. The difference here was that Franceska started with some blowing and I still had a hard time getting it up. I told her I knew a way it would hard and I said I wanted 69, something she said was going to cost extra. Fine I said, and we did some 69, my dick got hard and I then I started to fuck her. The sad thing is that I have an enormous porn addiction, something that makes just feel and touching not enough. I need visual stimulation so when the dick started to get soft, I had to fantasize about porn to get it hard. To not make her feel bad I started to pound real hard and after like 15 minutes I came. We shared a smoke after and she was very friendly and we talked a bit. I also gave her a little tip since she was very good at playing with my balls during the sex while I plowed.
Mariella, Germany.
Last girl of the day was also by far the hottest one. I saw how she sat alone outside the bar area and I asked her, her name. When she said Mariella I immediately told her we need to go upstairs, right now! She is somewhat of an celebrity on the Swedish forums haha so I needed to try her out. God dammit what a pussy she had. She looked like an angel and real, gorgeous, natural breast which she said she will never change. She was a bit on the chubby side though. She was very into the GFE-thing and I didn't even have to ask. Kissing and looking into the eyes was her thing and something I didn't need to pay extra for. She wanted extra for 69 though, something that I needed to get my dick hard. Just sucking don't work for me. Too bad I really don't like when she looked me in the eyes, then I couldn't fantasize about how I fucked her, while I fucked her. Tragic that I need to think about fucking her to come, when I am actually fucking her. This on the other hand made me fuck her doggy-style instead but she took it like a champ. She wanted my juice she said in the end but hell no I'm going to pay extra 50 euros for that. I just came in the condom and that's was it. We chatted for a while after and she had no rush. A sweet girl with a lovely giggle. Would definitely do her again.
An awesome experience and I learned a lot about myself. It was a while since I had sex and unfortunately for me I have turned to much to porn. I'm going to go into celibacy for now, no more porn and masturbation until my next visit so I really, fully can enjoy the experience. The place was very relaxed as well and the LU was not that bad at all but some had some love handles around the waist and I think there was a lack of smaller girls. Many where really tall. I am 185 and I don't want to have sex with girls that are around my height. That is just freaky stuff.
WarmStone25
08-09-16, 19:57
Visited Berlin again after almost a year. As always I spent a part of the day at Artemis. It was on a Sunday the last day of last month. The features of the visit were as before. I enjoyed the facilities both inside and outside. The food was OK but no more than that. I dealt with the attentions of girls pushing for business and kept control of my agenda. Angus used to say that you had to spend about 6 hours to get the best from Artemis and I have held to that. I picked a day when there was no Messe event. When I was ready I went about looking for girls to pick up. I had 3 good sessions. The girls all asked for 60 e for the same basic service. One of these was with an up seller but I did not give her the opportunity to claim extras. It was a good session any way. The best was with a blonde girl from Berlin, 1650 mm height, slim well proportioned body, clear white smooth skin, peachy ass. I picked her up as I walked through the sliding door into the main lounge. We hit it off straight away. I encountered this other girl at the bar. A stunning blonde with natural good looks, smooth white skin, beautifully shaved. She would not talk to me, let alone give me her name, said she was waiting for someone. Perhaps she likes young fit guys, neither of which I am. I never saw her with a man after that. I last saw her at the girls lockers, looking at her e-mails. Four fit young guys came up the stair from the entrance. They turned as one to take in this vision of beauty. I could not help but wonder what her mode of operation was or if she ever went with a man.
Artemis is still a good place to pick up girls if you can stay in control and deal with sharks and up sellers. If you keep your eyes open you can find some gems. If you are lucky they may even give you a session. To the next time.
Lavalampan: But isn't nervousness the best? As it raises your reflections? Hehe.
MaxSquatter
08-09-16, 22:12
Mariella is such a sweet doll. I saw her last year. Did you chat with her about her schedule at artemis? Apparently she does two weeks on, two weeks off. I want to contact the front desk so I can prepare a trip out there but I have heard that they are snappy about giving out schedules. But obviously it is important for visitors to know if they have a favorite girl they want to see while on a trip. Silly legal nonsense.
Mariella, Germany.
Last girl of the day was also by far the hottest one. I saw how she sat alone outside the bar area and I asked her, her name. When she said Mariella I immediately told her we need to go upstairs, right now! She is somewhat of an celebrity on the Swedish forums haha so I needed to try her out. God dammit what a pussy she had. She looked like an angel and real, gorgeous, natural breast which she said she will never change. She was a bit on the chubby side though. She was very into the GFE-thing and I didn't even have to ask. Kissing and looking into the eyes was her thing and something I didn't need to pay extra for. She wanted extra for 69 though, something that I needed to get my dick hard. Just sucking don't work for me. Too bad I really don't like when she looked me in the eyes, then I couldn't fantasize about how I fucked her, while I fucked her. Tragic that I need to think about fucking her to come, when I am actually fucking her. This on the other hand made me fuck her doggy-style instead but she took it like a champ. She wanted my juice she said in the end but hell no I'm going to pay extra 50 euros for that. I just came in the condom and that's was it. We chatted for a while after and she had no rush. A sweet girl with a lovely giggle. Would definitely do her again.
An awesome experience and I learned a lot about myself. It was a while since I had sex and unfortunately for me I have turned to much to porn. I'm going to go into celibacy for now, no more porn and masturbation until my next visit so I really, fully can enjoy the experience. The place was very relaxed as well and the LU was not that bad at all but some had some love handles around the waist and I think there was a lack of smaller girls. Many where really tall. I am 185 and I don't want to have sex with girls that are around my height. That is just freaky stuff.
Carltoncold
08-11-16, 08:49
Attended Wed's Dessous night and there was an situation late in the evening where the girls reported a shady individual with glasses or spectacles tricked up with secret recording capabilities (think Google Glass like). Apparently walked around the club and even had sessions wearing them. Some of the girls were shaken up a bit and the Polizei were even called in. I'm sure the club has CCTV footage to review. I visit Artemis once every 6 months since I live overseas so it was bad timing on my part. Can some of the regulars find out what became of this over the next few days, if any? (did they catch the culprit? Is he a known individual? Etc). Obviously, this is concerning for all parties involved. Girls, us guys & management.
VonderJohn
08-11-16, 12:07
The sad thing is that I have an enormous porn addiction, something that makes just feel and touching not enough. I need visual stimulation so when the dick started to get soft, I had to fantasize about porn to get it hard.
To not make her feel bad I started to pound real hard and after like 15 minutes I came. We shared a smoke after and she was very friendly and we talked a bit. I also gave her a little tip since she was very good at playing with my balls during the sex while I plowed..Porn addiction and its side effects.
Okay guys I'm not sure this is the suitable place to discuss this, but since Lavalampan brought it up, how do you deal with the side effects of porn addiction? I am sure Lavalampan is not the only one who faces difficulties getting a hard on while having sex because of porn addiction. We often face the problem of needing a visual stimulation, and that touching is not enough.
Based on the experience of people in this forum, how do you deal with this problem? How do you overcome it? It is annoying and I must say can be embarrassing for a man, especially during the sexual experience. There is nothing worse than failing to fuck when you're emotionally and psychologically ready to do it.
Any ideas about this?
Anyone know if Even / Evan / Heaven with the killer tits is still at Artemis? I'll be back in Germany from mid to late August. Love to see her again if she is still around.
Howie.
Der Auslander
08-11-16, 17:22
Okay guys I'm not sure this is the suitable place to discuss this You are indeed CORRECT! This is NOT a suitable place to discuss this! Unless you have information or questions specifically pertaining to FKK Artemis, please do not post here. The "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area" (below FKK Artemis. Berlin thread) would be the correct place to discuss this very particular issue. Lets keep this and all threads which relate to FKK and Sauna Clubs in Germany, an enjoyable place to visit for all Members, with news and information about the club in question (in this case FKK Artemis) and not a Dear Abby advice page, to discuss the life problems of individual members.
Wolvenvacht
08-11-16, 18:14
Porn addiction and its side effects.
Okay guys I'm not sure this is the suitable place to discuss this, but since Lavalampan brought it up, how do you deal with the side effects of porn addiction? I am sure Lavalampan is not the only one who faces difficulties getting a hard on while having sex because of porn addiction. We often face the problem of needing a visual stimulation, and that touching is not enough.
Based on the experience of people in this forum, how do you deal with this problem? How do you overcome it? It is annoying and I must say can be embarrassing for a man, especially during the sexual experience. There is nothing worse than failing to fuck when you're emotionally and psychologically ready to do it.
Any ideas about this?Easy, ask for a room with mirrors and you can look at yourself making love to your girl. It is like being the star in your own XXX-movie.
Killer tits? As I remember from the last time I saw her she has natural small tits, did she make silicone? She's indeed the most amazing girl I have ever been with. Very interesting if she's back to work since I didn't meet her at my last two visits to the club.
Anyone know if Even / Evan / Heaven with the killer tits is still at Artemis? I'll be back in Germany from mid to late August. Love to see her again if she is still around.
Howie.
VonderJohn
08-13-16, 01:00
Killer tits? As I remember from the last time I saw her she has natural small tits, did she make silicone? She's indeed the most amazing girl I have ever been with. Very interesting if she's back to work since I didn't meet her at my last two visits to the club.Any picture available for this babe on any website or any other source?
I wish but no.
Any picture available for this babe on any website or any other source?
Killer tits? As I remember from the last time I saw her she has natural small tits, did she make silicone? She's indeed the most amazing girl I have ever been with. Very interesting if she's back to work since I didn't meet her at my last two visits to the club.Hi Blover34,
How recent were your last two visits? I saw her in mid-March of this year and she told me she had her tits done. They looked amazingly naturally and beautiful. One of the best pairs I've ever seen. Perky and firm.
Howie.
I haven't seen her for more then a year. She told me she won't stay in Berlin and will go back home since she had enough of this job, I didn't really believed that and I see I was correct. Last two times I been there one of her friends who know me told me that I just missed her by a week. Well that's life. She will always be remembered by me as the most! Beautiful girl I have ever seen. She so natural and nice that I couldn't understand what the hack is she doing in this club, but the need for money is probably stronger then my understanding. Just to think about her with bigger tits as you say she made them it's a boner. Hope to see her once more really really hope to.
Hi Blover34,
How recent were your last two visits? I saw her in mid-March of this year and she told me she had her tits done. They looked amazingly naturally and beautiful. One of the best pairs I've ever seen. Perky and firm.
Howie.
Hi,
An information, I was in the Artemis the last year, there is a site where I can see the girl available? Because in the Artemis site's there isn't the gallery of the girl.
Carpaccio18
08-15-16, 22:13
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The sad thing is that I have an enormous porn addiction, something that makes just feel and touching not enough. I need visual stimulation so when the dick started to get soft, I had to fantasize about porn to get it hard.
Get some Vitamin V, my friend. That will take care of that problem so you don't have to worry about it, and can focus on enjoying the rides.
Hi,
An information, I was in the Artemis the last year, there is a site where I can see the girl available? Because in the Artemis site's there isn't the gallery of the girl.The Artemis site used to have pictures of the girls working there before the raid but it's gone now. The Internet Archive has a few cached snapshots of the pictures from the last few months.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160415003608/http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/?langswitch_lang=en
VonderJohn
08-17-16, 01:10
The Artemis site used to have pictures of the girls working there before the raid but it's gone now. The Internet Archive has a few cached snapshots of the pictures from the last few months.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160415003608/http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/?langswitch_lang=enBy the way, what has changed in Artemis after the raid? Wether in terms of quality and number of girls or procedures or fees?
Come to think about it, would have looked like an action and bizarre movie to see 700 police officers storming into a place with nude women and clients having sex LOL. Anyone in the forum was there when it happened?
What was the name of this blonde blue eye, half German half russian girl who used to work in Goldentime and now at FKK Artemis, just very few tattoo, no silicone, about 165 cm, blonde, blue eye. I think her name was Ania no? Or Alia?
Thinking about starting my trip to Berlin at Artemis. Are there any girls you can recommend for BBBJ and CIF?
Also is there any point to arriving before 5 pm? Flying into Berlin around midday and don't know if I can wait that long!
Cheers.
Also does Jenna with the huge boobs still work there?
Anyone know if Even / Evan / Heaven with the killer tits is still at Artemis? I'll be back in Germany from mid to late August. Love to see her again if she is still around.
Howie.Hi!
Yes, I saw Evan several times in the last weeks, so chances are high to meet her.
Also does Jenna with the huge boobs still work there?She wrote this on Artemis webpage, in the section that was taken down after the raid:
Jenna:
11 April 2016 6:39.
Hi Bill. No not in June. Maybe middle or end of August.
Bill:
6 April 2016 15:59.
Hi Jenna, will you be working in June?
HunterCupid
08-21-16, 18:33
I arrived at 5 pm and I was super tired already as I was working all morning painting and decorating. Anyway at 6 pm I joined the queue for the BBQ. I wanted to drag this evening out more than I did on my last visit as I wanted to pick my girls even better this time and to see if any new faces were there.
8 pm German / Turkish. 20 year old Tall. Long black hair.
So in fact I had been waiting a long time already and was disappointed not to find any girl that I really liked. I was hanging around the stairs area (the place that the desperate guys go to!) when this beautiful young girl approaches me with a stunning body. My initial reaction was to say no because although physically she is beautiful she's got that snooty attitude that a lot of the girls have here. I prefer normal down to earth girls but whatever, I couldn't wait all night for my first fuck so I said yes. I ask to go to the Cinema because I figure she will have to make an effort with me there. Wrong! Big mistake! This girl is so devious. I tell her I am super horny and I will cum quickly so we need to go slow. So what the fuck does she do? She starts sucking me off super hard but I'm able to control it. We start fucking and then switching positions a couple of times. We're about 8 minutes in and I can't hold myself anymore so I pull out. I want to go slowly and take my time with her. She then says to me the Cinema is for fucking only and I'm not allowed to stop. She says we have to fuck. What? I looked up and told her there wasn't even anyone IN the cinema! But that doesn't matter to her, the cinema is for fucking only. Jeez what a * this girl provided no service to me and was nasty to me too. I was going to ask for her name but decided not to only to stop myself from writing it here in this forum. We start fucking again and I come in only a few minutes. The session lasted 10/15 minutes maximum, what a fucking she also put me in a bad mood too after that.
10 pm Sydney. 25 year old German. Blond hair, dark eyes. Short / Petite. Looks like Avril Lavigne.
Wow! I can't believe it. I see this cute cute cute tiny girl sitting on a chair in the bar area. I'm getting horny just looking at her. This girl is super petite and has that cheeky teenager look to her and is acting very normal. She's talking to a guy so I didn't approach her but I sat instead on the sofa behind her. After a couple of minutes she stands up to leave and then the guy starts speaking to her. I'm hoping he doesn't take her but they continue talking for maybe another five minutes. Sadly for me, she disappears with him. Anyway, a little while later I see her at the bar but walking towards me. I approach her and lift her hand for her to twirl. I ask if she wants to have a cigarette with me (my new trick, bring cigarettes! The time while you talk and smoke you will know if the girl is right for you! While we're talking another German girl comes up to her and says there is another guy that wants her for a threesome right now. This girl is clearly in demand! She ignores the request and I take this girl upstairs (no Kino now I learnt my lesson and this girl is GFE all over not a pornstar). The first room she takes me to I reject, it's not nice enough for this special situation! Let me tell you, Sydney is one of the most beautiful girls in Artemis, her body is the tightest and smallest of all the girls and she has beautiful tattoos all over her, but done in a really nice way. Her breasts are enhanced (too big in my opinion). I asked her what she was before and she said she had almost nothing there. I would have preferred a natural looking be cup but she went bigger. They're still amazing though! Sidney was a great fuck, she rode me on top and put a lot of effort in. We changed positions a few times and finally I came. We stayed in the room talking for a bit before we went downstairs for payment. I love this girl so much I will look for her next time I'm here.
1 am Mandy. 30 year old Austrian. Very light blond hair, dark eyes. Petite. Perfect small body.
I come across Mandy near the pole dance area. I love her super petite body and we talked for a few minutes. I was actually looking for Julia, the Romanian super petite girl that I had fucked in the Kino on my last visit to Artemis so I told her no. But having waited for Julia for nearly an hour already I then see Mandy again sitting on the sofa looking a bit lonely and she gave me eye contact. What I love about this girl is she is super normal, not like the other girls who love themselves so much. I asked her if she likes the Kino and she says yes, it's a good advert for her, so I asked what she likes doing in the Kino and she said kissing, 69 all included for 60 euros. Wow! I took her to the Kino and she's sucking me off super professionally like a real porn star. She rides me for a long time again like a porn star and we have guys around us jacking off. Amazing! I'm loving this girl so much she is super sexy and I love everything about her.
What a nice evening in the end but I left still being annoyed by the first girl. I've learnt a big lesson today, don't go for the girls that love themselves but find the normal girls you can connect with!
Also does Jenna with the huge boobs still work there?IMHO Jenna will return, but patience: it just takes time.
She wrote this on Artemis webpage, in the section that was taken down after the raid:
Jenna:
11 April 2016 6:39.
Hi Bill. No not in June. Maybe middle or end of August.
Bill:
6 April 2016 15:59.
Hi Jenna, will you be working in June?I knew you can write on Artemis website, but I never knew girls actually write back on Artemis website LOL.
SuppenHuhn
08-22-16, 13:03
At Hunter.
Can you describe your first girl more in detail? Maybe it was Sinem. She is very tall (1,75 m) and has very long black hair, the longest hair from all. Her natural boobs are very small. Her face is pretty and she is very slim. Yesterday I spoke with her and I think she doesn't like half hour sessions.
Mandy is nice person, you are right and very natural: No tattoo, no silicone, no solarium. She looks like an albino.
DethManRulz
08-22-16, 13:58
I knew you can write on Artemis website, but I never knew girls actually write back on Artemis website LOL.Not anymore.
Anyway, it was mostly just Jenna.
HunterCupid
08-22-16, 19:56
At Hunter.
Can you describe your first girl more in detail? Maybe it was Sinem. She is very tall (1,75 m) and has very long black hair, the longest hair from all. Her natural boobs are very small. Her face is pretty and she is very slim. Yesterday I spoke with her and I think she doesn't like half hour sessions.
Mandy is nice person, you are right and very natural: No tattoo, no silicone, no solarium. She looks like an albino.Hi Suppenhuhn,
Yes it could well be Sinem, she was very tall and long black hair and with natural boobs. Her body is completely my type, except she is taller than I normally go for. I blame myself for choosing her as much as I blame her for being the way she was. I won't make the same mistake again though. I will always talk to girls for a few minutes before going with them in future. And if they don't want to talk to me then they're not right for me!
HunterCupid
08-22-16, 20:04
Due to circumstances within my control (haha) I extended my stay in Berlin! How fortunate! I was now flying back home on Thursday so made sure I had some time to squeeze in one more visit to Artemis! This time I was determined to make it my best visit and I wanted to make more use of the facilities than I did. I arrived at 5 pm and went straight to the indoor pool and then followed with the Sauna and the Steam Room. I was now super relaxed to find my first fuck of the evening.
6 pm Dominican Republic. Black girl. Short. Not thin. Always smiling. Always playing. Super bubbly, big personality. 30+ year old?
So I'm sitting on a sofa at the upper section near the bar area. The place is empty and dead. In walks in the larger than life black girl that is always smiling and has a great attitude! She walks to the bar with a smile on her face and I can't help but go up to her to tell her how it makes me so happy to see her every time she is there because she has such an amazing personality and her spirit always lifts the room. She says she wants to talk to me but I make it very clear I'm not interested in her. She says she just wants to chat don't worry about it. We sit there talking for maybe 10 or 15 minutes, and I made it clear again I'm just chatting and I'm not interested. The thing is though, she has so much spirit and is so full of life and I'm loving spending time with her. I had a bad experience with a girl on my last visit in Artemis and I figure maybe I should go with a girl who I get on with? She's moving her body to the music and she's telling me how much energy she has for me. I keep saying no until some switch flips inside my head and I say ohhh come on then! We shuffle to the round bed in the the upper bar area and close the curtain (but leaving a nice gap! She keeps moving to the music while she then goes down on me sucking me off. WOW what an experience she is wild! We then start fucking and she's one of the best fucks of my life! She's full of energy and she's masturbating herself too while I bang her with all my energy too. Finally I come and it's one of the best experiences of my life! I learnt so much about myself in such a short time with this girl. It's not all about the beauty of the body but the spirit and energy and personality of the person you are with are also really important. She spent the rest of the evening telling people how I was a sex machine! Como una machina! I'll be honest it's the first time I was with a black girl and I'm so happy with how it came about. What an amazing start to my evening.
12 am Mandy. 30 year old Austrian. Very light blond hair, dark eyes. Petite. Perfect small body.
If I had to marry any girl at Artemis it would be Mandy without any hesitation. She is completely my type and if I had to have sex with one girl only for the rest of my life it would be with this girl. Mandy has the most perfect body and beautiful soft white skin. Her breasts are absolutely perfect. Her energy and enthusiasm is second to none. I've been with Mandy before on my last visit where we fucked in the kino near the bar. This time I asked her where she wanted to fuck and she said she preferred the Kino downstairs. So off we go! There's no one there at first and she's sucking me off. Some people walk by and I'm happy that people are watching but they didn't stay. Then a guy comes to sit on the sofa behind us and is watching. I look up to see this goofy old pervert. And his goofy face really puts me off. I need people with energy watching me and this guy is taking it from me. I suggest we move to a room and what a good idea that was! For the first time I see Mandy in better lighting and with mirrors I'm super enjoying myself now. We're then fucking and she's touching herself at the same time. We move to different positions until I cum to completion. Afterwards, we sit there for maybe ten minutes just chatting. I learn so much about her. For some reason I didn't see her again the whole evening and I wondered what she did for the rest of that day.
2 am German. Short, breast implants, not thin. But super super super sexy face. Her date of birth is tattooed on her leg. 4th April 1995.
I was with this girl on my first visit to Artemis back in July 2016 (last month). She was super good back then and I wanted to end my visit to Berlin on a good note but anyway this girl is the youngest looking and sexiest girl in the place so it was a no brainier. I saw her walking down the stairs having finished with a client so I moved to the lockers to ask her to be next. As I'm standing there, a guy pushes past me and grabs her to ask to be next. OK whatever I was being polite waiting and this guy pushed in. Sometimes things happen for a reason so when he disappears I tell her I was standing there waiting to be next but anyway I will wait for her to come back. I needed time to recover anyway so maybe it was a good thing. I went to the Sauna in the meantime and a while later I wandered back to the stairs. My timing was good because only a few minutes later I see her walking back down again. This time I didn't want to waste my time so I made sure I was next by asking her before anyone else had a chance (haha! After she got back from the ladies changing room we went upstairs. We were in the best room I've had so far upstairs and this girl didn't disappoint me. She's super horny and she starts by sucking my nipples (no one else does this! How does she know I like it? She's kissing my body and I'm stroking her everywhere. She starts by sucking me off and then we move to fucking in different positions. She's touching herself while we're fucking (this is the first time ever that every girl I was with touched themselves! I came to completion and I was super happy. Her body and face are so sexy and her attitude is different to all the other girls. She is so sweet and dedicated but once she's done with you she's observant and has a great personal awareness. I am in awe of her personality and she must be in a good place mentally. She's so in demand that she could barely finish her drink at the bar before she was taken away upstairs again but another guy.
What a perfect end to an evening at Artemis. I left at 4 am and I can say this evening was my best ever. I love this place so much and it's worth every penny.
Entrance 80.
Girls 210 (include tips).
Drinks 10.
Hi!
Yes, I saw Evan several times in the last weeks, so chances are high to meet her.Thanks for the update Karat. I'll be in Berlin next week just before the IFA kicks off. I do hope that she is still around.
Howie.
FormulaOneFan
08-26-16, 00:37
At HunterCupid. Thanks for the reports on Mandy. Agreed on all points. She very cute and petite, her attitude outside and in the room is second to none, and her enthusiasm and performance in the room was stellar. I was pretty much done for the evening having already done 3 rooms, but was chilling since it was still early (midnight) and she walked over and started chatting. No upsell at all, very fun to talk to, and like you said very 'normal' in a lot of ways. Once she told me her name I knew I had to give it a go based on your recent reports.
Had 3 other pretty SOP sessions, nothing really to report. Just standard 30 min no kissing no DATY sessions, but it's day 1 and I knew I would have a good time no matter what since the tank was full. All 3 sessions were enjoyable, but nothing memorable. To be honest I don't even remember their names LOL.
FormulaOneFan
08-27-16, 00:59
Spent Friday evening at Artemis. Got there around 6 pm and it was already busier than it was the previous day (not a surprise) but still not too crazy busy. I had 3 very good sessions.
Beya (not sure on spelling) - says she's 1/2 romanian 1/2 turkish. Went for a nice relaxing hour session that was a very good way to start of the day. She's tall, bronzish blonde hair with natural see / dee cups. Minimal upselling, but a bit. Mentioned CIM and anal but declined and it wasn't intrusive at all to the session.
Amy DE. What a sweet sweet girl. Spent a very enjoyable time with her. An hour very well spent and no upsell at all.
Completely forgot her name. Very petite romanian with very light skin and reddish brown hair with bangs. Her name begins with an A. Angelina, Andrea, something like that. Incredible GFE experience and it was like real girlfriend back in my 20's. Very sensual and a great way to end the night. I ended up spending 1. 5 hrs with her and it was well worth it. No upsell and a super sweet and kind girl.
All 3 sessions included DATY and kissing. I went for an hour from the start with all 3 so I don't know if a 1/2 hrs session it would have been the same.
Was considering staying for a 4th session, but I was tired and after 3 really good sessions why risk an SOP session to end the night. I like to end on a highlight, and both last night and tonite I did just that.
Completely forgot her name. Very petite romanian with very light skin and reddish brown hair with bangs. Her name begins with an A. Angelina, Andrea, something like that. IMHO Antonia.
FormulaOneFan
08-27-16, 10:01
IMHO Antonia.That sounds right. Piercing right above her vagina as well. Not on her clit, but right above it.
VonderJohn
09-02-16, 20:34
Why is it that most of the ladies in Artemis prefer not to kiss? (french kissing, that is) ? Even during the session, its a common no-no. Is there a way to talk the lady through convincing her into this? Is it part of the GFE? I noticed it in my last visit and found it weird.
Why is it that most of the ladies in Artemis prefer not to kiss? (french kissing, that is) ? Even during the session, its a common no-no. Is there a way to talk the lady through convincing her into this? Is it part of the GFE? I noticed it in my last visit and found it weird.My educated guess is the girls want 50 more Euros, VonderJohn.
I have never had a problem, since I have always taken one hour sessions, but you really need to establish this pre-zimmer. Generally, I find the service is better from the girls in the Frankfurt clubs, as opposed to the girls at Artemis. I stopped going there years ago. Of course, YMMV.
Good luck!
FiddyCent.
Romanian labor union is strong in Artemis. Only a few romanians kiss. Try any of the non romanian. Perhaps also non-german as it has spilled a bit over to the german lot as well.
Romanian labor union is strong in Artemis. Only a few romanians kiss. Try any of the non romanian. Perhaps also non-german as it has spilled a bit over to the german lot as well.Agreed! If you remove the 80% Romanians and the 5% German group, that leaves you only about 15% total. (Hungarians and Czechs, who are great kissers, Bulgarians, Polish, Thai, Latin American, others not listed). Bottom line Pistons, service is better in Frankfurt. Oh, to correct my previous post. The girls would be asking for Sixty Euros more. This is Berlin, after all.
FiddyCent.
I don't know Artemis, because Berlin is a bit far and no more pleasure being stopped in traffic on autobahns, but if I understand well, it s more expensive than NRW or Hessen, with lower services? Or are girls better GFE with real DFK, for 1 hour, like most of FKK girls. Austria around Villach is also more expensive, with lower average services, and I think it s the same in Vienna. Switzerland is more expensive, but top level for GFE, at least for Globe, before discovering Aphrodisia.
VonderJohn
09-03-16, 13:29
My educated guess is the girls want 50 more Euros, VonderJohn.
I have never had a problem, since I have always taken one hour sessions, but you really need to establish this pre-zimmer. Generally, I find the service is better from the girls in the Frankfurt clubs, as opposed to the girls at Artemis. I stopped going there years ago. Of course, YMMV.
Good luck!
FiddyCent.1) So in one-hour sessions, kissing is allowed?
2) What are your top picks for Frankfurt: Top brothels and FKK clubs and gangbang clubs. I may try them.
Your percentages are off, but it doesn't matter. Just about 60-65% are romanian, and 10-15% are german. 10% are also bulgarian. There are no polish, but a few russian and ukrainian from time to time. Some thai, caribbeans/south americans/africans etc. Not many czechs / hungarians left now unfortunately:
Your percentages are off, but it doesn't matter. Just about 60-65% are romanian, and 10-15% are german. 10% are also bulgarian. There are no polish, but a few russian and ukrainian from time to time. Some thai, caribbeans/south americans/africans etc. Not many czechs / hungarians left now unfortunately:Thank you Pistons for your breakdown of the percentages. The plus about Artemis is the variety of girls that show up at that club. I wonder what drove the Czech and Hungarian girls away.
This reaffirms my reason to stick with Frankfurt. I used to like Artemis, and had many good sessions there, but since I started expanding my trips into Frankfurt, I find their clubs had more to offer and the service levels from the girls were far superior. Getting back to the original topic of the kissing, the interview on the couches is the determining factor whether or not I choose a girl. Guys, definitely take your time there. The girls will come back, even if you skip them over the first time.
FiddyCent.
Your percentages are off, but it doesn't matter. Just about 60-65% are romanian, and 10-15% are german. 10% are also bulgarian. There are no polish, but a few russian and ukrainian from time to time. Some thai, caribbeans/south americans/africans etc. Not many czechs / hungarians left now unfortunately:I met two Polish in May. Ukrainians would be rare and I met none. The club is ruled by the the Romanians, number one reason why other girls want nothing to do with Artemis.
I met two Polish in May. Ukrainians would be rare and I met none. The club is ruled by the the Romanians, number one reason why other girls want nothing to do with Artemis.True, the clique at Artemis is hard to get into even for most romanians. It is hard to find out who the bad apples are that ruins it, but I think it could just be lots of jealousy and the fact that the girls doesn't get out much. LOL.
I know at least 3 ukrainians there from time to time. And there are also a few spanish. But there are so many semi active girls at Artemis it is hard to get a full overview. It has, or at least before the raid, had the largest amount of girls. Full time or part time of all german fkk's... a number would also be impossible as the term 'quit' is impossible to define... but that sheer number of girls (and diversity) makes the club worth a look from time to time even if there are also bad apples around... especially if trust is regained after the raid. Though I have to admit the LU has taken a huge dip this year since the raid this spring... but hoping it comes back up...
SuppenHuhn
09-04-16, 00:16
What kind of nonsense is written here? One member estimates 80 %, another one 60-65 % Romanian girls. Artemis is not Oase or World.
The biggest group are the German girls (about 25-30 %) and the second the Romanian girls (about 20 % It changes from day to day but in my opinion the average.
There are also some turkey (5-10% Bulgarian (5% Hungarian (5-8 %) girls in club and also different other nationalities (Slovakia, Russia, Lithuania, Asia, Czech, Poland, Moldavia, Ukraine and some black girls).
RioDeJaneiro1
09-04-16, 14:21
Hi, have you seen Jenna at Artemis. She was supposed to come back end of AUG. Thanks.
SuppenHuhn
09-04-16, 14:38
She hopes to come to Artemis end of September or begin of October.
Romanian girls (about 20 % It changes from day to day but in my opinion the average.Do you believe in aliens too?
(Sure some are moldavian too, but most group those in with the romanians. Even the romanians / moldavians say they are the same, as they all have romanian passport issued in chisinau).
Sure some turkish too, but most 'hungarian' are not from hungary, but perhaps ethnic hungarians from romania...
VonderJohn
09-04-16, 16:14
I know at least 3 ukrainians there from time to time. And there are also a few spanish. But there are so many semi active girls at Artemis it is hard to get a full overview. It has, or at least before the raid, had the largest amount of girls. Full time or part time of all german fkk's... a number would also be impossible as the term 'quit' is impossible to define... but that sheer number of girls (and diversity) makes the club worth a look from time to time even if there are also bad apples around... especially if trust is regained after the raid. Though I have to admit the LU has taken a huge dip this year since the raid this spring... but hoping it comes back up...My experience is mostly agreeing with the guy who said the majority are Germans. But I guess it changes and fluctuates over time.
Anyway, what do you mean by "LU" ? I couldn't find it in the abbreviations, sorry.
From your experience, what really changed after the raid? Last time I was here was a year ago so I'm sure things are not 100% the same. What changed? Quality of girls? Number? Treatment? Attitude? Value for money?
LU = line up.
After the raid, a bit less girls, and / or some older replacement girls just taking up space. A few girls are rumorred to also ask for more money per session, but personally I haven't noticed that.
And there is absolutely no discussion regarding the largest nationality. No doubt that is the romanians... sure some days have more than average germans. And many of the germans are part timers. Lots from hamburg for example. But I've never seen a single day with more germans than romanians.
the Romanian girls (about 20 % It changes from day to day but in my opinion the average.
.20% romanians in Artemis?
Hahahaha. Thanks, best joke so far this year.
SuppenHuhn
09-05-16, 18:03
Dutedrac,
At most 25 %, many in the night shift.
It's terrible what people say their opinion in this thread who have no experience in this club.
20% romanians in Artemis?
Hahahaha. Thanks, best joke so far this year.Ofcourse over half the romanians there say they come from somewhere else. So yes, a joke. But not this years joke. It is getting old now, LOL.
SuppenHuhn
09-06-16, 20:18
Pistons,
I don't know your nationality. Maybe that is the reason why you cannot identify the accent and ergo the nationality of the girls, especially the German ones.
But if you have not the knowledge of these things it's better to keep quiet.
I think I know 70 % of German girls names. And I think I was so often in Artemis that my details are nearly facts.
VonderJohn
09-07-16, 10:51
I think the nationality and ethnicity of the lady can be determined by the taste of the tit and the architecture of her pussy or perhaps her fucking skills.
Romania is the main meat factory for German FKK industry. Bulgaria being the back up meat factory.
However, these meats from Romania often claim they are Spanish or Italian, they are a shame of being Romanians, so they hide their identity, they often claim to be Italian or Spanish LOL.
For me as long as girl is beautiful, cool and provide good service I do not care too much, though I tend to love German girls in FKK the best.
Pistons,
I don't know your nationality. Maybe that is the reason why you cannot identify the accent and ergo the nationality of the girls, especially the German ones.
But if you have not the knowledge of these things it's better to keep quiet.
I think I know 70 % of German girls names. And I think I was so often in Artemis that my details are nearly facts.Well I'm a furniture at artemis. Was there yesterday. Must say Artemis during IFA is terrible. I mean, all the girls are there. Didnt miss anyone. But too many guys... awful to catch the girl you look for... sure there are lots of germans. Even more than ever before it feels. But there are even more romanians. 50-60% easily. True it has fallen a bit percentage wise since the raid and the girls of those HA guys are gone it seems. All were romanian I believe...
About these 'polish' girls though. At least the one I talked to is 100% romanian :)
Romania is the main meat factory for German FKK industry. Bulgaria being the back up meat factory.
However, these meats from Romania often claim they are Spanish or Italian, they are a shame of being Romanians, so they hide their identity, they often claim to be Italian or Spanish LOL.
For me as long as girl is beautiful, cool and provide good service I do not care too much, though I tend to love German girls in FKK the best.Romanian WGs who are very numerous, lie, saying they are Italian or Spanish, to try not to be considered like Romanian meat. Bulgarian girls are used to be treated like meat, but they suffer from. Both are women, even prostitutes. Some Romanian girls are much more sensual women than German girls.
VonderJohn
09-08-16, 06:01
Well I'm a furniture at artemis. Was there yesterday. Must say Artemis during IFA is terrible. I mean, all the girls are there. Didnt miss anyone. But too many guys... awful to catch the girl you look for... sure there are lots of germans. Even more than ever before it feels. But there are even more romanians. 50-60% easily. True it has fallen a bit percentage wise since the raid and the girls of those HA guys are gone it seems. All were romanian I believe...
About these 'polish' girls though. At least the one I talked to is 100% romanian :)Excuse my ignorance, but what is IFA? I didn't find it in the abbreviations.
Also, based on your experience, when is the most suitable day / period to visit Artemis? (weekdays or weekends? Summer or winter? September or October?) in terms of finding the most variety of girls and ratio in comparison to men.
I think the nationality and ethnicity of the lady can be determined by the taste of the tit and the architecture of her pussy or perhaps her fucking skills.Different taste and smell between dark skin and white skin girls, OK. Real red hair girls have also different taste and smell than blond and brunette white skin, but from white to a bit dark, I saw pussy with small lips or big lips, hidden clit or small dick clit, some guys will be happy with. I met Romanian or Bulgarian tornado and dead dolls Germans. Many Romanians and Bulgarians are more skillful for me than Germans or Polish or Czech in Praga.
I think it depends on what kind of sex we look for, and our behavior with girls.
I don't know the percentages (nationality is of only conversational interest to me) but I am sure that there is more variety at Artemis than at the other large clubs that I have visited in frankfurt and stuttgart.
I can believe that 25% Romanian at Artemis is quite possible. Certainly less than 50%, in my opinion.
I don't know the percentages (nationality is of only conversational interest to me) but I am sure that there is more variety at Artemis than at the other large clubs that I have visited in frankfurt and stuttgart.
I can believe that 25% Romanian at Artemis is quite possible. Certainly less than 50%, in my opinion.So, too far from Paris and not a club for me. Even I was often said to go to Hungarian Geraldine? But my best girls from Hamburg to Zurich are Romanian, even at GT Bruggen, the prettiest, sexiest, most respectful GF are Romanian, Kim or Erica, only Serbian Dounia can compete. And Artemis is more expensive, than NRW or Hessen.
Hessen Bub
09-08-16, 17:21
Excuse my ignorance, but what is IFA? I didn't find it in the abbreviations.
Google IFA + Berlin and you get: http://www.ifa-berlin.de/en/.
HB.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is IFA? I didn't find it in the abbreviations.
Also, based on your experience, when is the most suitable day / period to visit Artemis? (weekdays or weekends? Summer or winter? September or October?) in terms of finding the most variety of girls and ratio in comparison to men.Like I've mentionned before here on the forum. Miss a big messe by a few days or a week and most if not all the girls are around. Pluss the ratio is much better than during the messe.
Last summer was good at artemis. All girls were out by the pool. But this summer they seem to fear the sun (like at the hessen clubs sometimes). So then the time of the year doesnt matter. But messe scheduels do... and perhaps august is a bit slow cus girls go on vacation.
VonderJohn
09-09-16, 13:36
Like I've mentionned before here on the forum. Miss a big messe by a few days or a week and most if not all the girls are around. Pluss the ratio is much better than during the messe.
Last summer was good at artemis. All girls were out by the pool. But this summer they seem to fear the sun (like at the hessen clubs sometimes). So then the time of the year doesnt matter. But messe scheduels do... and perhaps august is a bit slow cus girls go on vacation.I get what you mean. So basically we should be on the look out for big exhibitions and public events taking place in Berlin and make sure to avoid going to Artemis during these events, as they generate too many guys into the FKK clubs. I am planning a trip by early October, so I think I will be finding a less crowded Artemis, as no messe has been detected during that period yet.
Well I'm a furniture at artemis. Was there yesterday. Must say Artemis during IFA is terrible. I mean, all the girls are there. Didnt miss anyone. But too many guys... awful to catch the girl you look for... sure there are lots of germans. Even more than ever before it feels. But there are even more romanians. 50-60% easily. True it has fallen a bit percentage wise since the raid and the girls of those HA guys are gone it seems. All were romanian I believe...
About these 'polish' girls though. At least the one I talked to is 100% romanian :)I had my furniture days at Artemis, LOL. I find that unless the girls know me service level is less good than in the Frankfurt area. The price is also annoyingly high. Berlin needs more FKK clubs for increased competition. Next week I'll pay Artemis a visit after a very long time.
Probably do Mittwoch in hope to avoid the masses.
Finnish Fucker
09-11-16, 22:49
Killer tits? As I remember from the last time I saw her she has natural small tits, did she make silicone? She's indeed the most amazing girl I have ever been with. Very interesting if she's back to work since I didn't meet her at my last two visits to the club.I fucked Evan tonight. Killer tits, no, just medium sized silicone breasts with nipples pointing to the roof. Her nipples are sensitive, she don't allow them to be touched or sucked. No big deal for me, I much enjoyed her slender body and tight pussy. One of the best bodies in the club and OK face as well.
I fucked Evan tonight. Killer tits, no, just medium sized silicone breasts with nipples pointing to the roof. Her nipples are sensitive, she don't allow them to be touched or sucked. No big deal for me, I much enjoyed her slender body and tight pussy. One of the best bodies in the club and OK face as well.That is Evan alright with nipples pointing to the roof, LOL.
Hey Finnish Fucker, was that this Saturday or Sunday that you fucked her? I was at Artemis last Friday 2 Sep during the IFA and she wasn't there. Glad to hear that she has returned. Making plans to revisit Artemis later this week just so I can fuck that hot body of hers again.
The previous Friday during IFA, it was super busy. Room waits of 30 minutes or so after midnight but line up quality was so and so. Only three babes caught my attention. Clara (Romania), Cecile (Romania) and Kelly (Bulgaria). Ended up fucking platinum blond Barbie doll Clara. Amazing slim hot body with nice C cup silicones. Soft juicy fleshy pussy and long straight platinum blond hair down to waist with tanned body and cute face. Will look to try Cecile and Kelly next time.
Who else did you fuck that night?
Howie.
Finnish Fucker
09-12-16, 23:09
Hey Finnish Fucker, was that this Saturday or Sunday that you fucked her? I was at Artemis last Friday 2 Sep during the IFA and she wasn't there. Glad to hear that she has returned. Making plans to revisit Artemis later this week just so I can fuck that hot body of hers again.
It was Sunday evening I visited Artemis and banged Evan. I did not have any other girls, better to quit when you are winning!
Cheers, FF.
Hello!
I'm thinking about going to Berlin next week from Wednesday till Friday. This will be my first trip to Berlin.
Though I've read quite few posts and topics about Berlin and its places I still have some questions.
What worries me a little is that I saw there will be a messe (Innotrans) in Berlin next week. I saw a post where two members couldn't get along if the messe is a good thing or no, so would be great to hear more about it. It's logical that the messe will have an impact on Artemis for example, but I also think it should be in a good way (good lineup), except for the crowd which is a definitive minus.
My indicative plan is for the first day (Wednesday) to do some sightseeing in the morning and afternoon, than to visit one Kaufmich / intimberlin lady first and than to go to Artemis (or just going directly from sightseeing to Artemis).
I was thinking of going to Artemis around 18:00 and staying till late.
And the last day (Friday) I was thinking to go to Artemis around noon and stay for 4-5 hours.
- When would you suggest the best hours to go to Artemis that there will be a lot of girls and maybe not so crowded because of the messe?
- Did I choose good hours?
- Do you think there will be a lot of shark attitude and upseling because of the messe?
As I already said this will be my first trip to Berlin and my first visit to German FKK and Gangparty club (on Thursday) and I only have three days there, so I really have to have a good plan. So I would like to ask you fellow mongers to help me with the questions and maybe with some extra information.
Last but not least I'm a fan of big silicone tits so as I've read the Artemis should be a place for me right? Does anybody know any big silicone tits girl which is working now in Artemis or anywhere else in Berlin (except Kaufmich / intimberlin) for that matter?
There was a lot of talking that Jenna comes back in September but looks like we'll still have to wait.
Thanks to all!
Peter Gord
09-15-16, 17:50
Hi,
I am making my first trip to Artemis this weekend and I've read quite a few posts, but couldn't get an answer to this. You enter and pay the house fee, go to the locker, get undressed and walk around in a robe. What happens when you hook up with a girl? Do you go back to your locker to get the cash so you can pay her 60 euros or is there some sort of tab system?
Thanks so much.
Do you go back to your locker to get the cash so you can pay her 60 euros or is there some sort of tab system?You don't have to pay in advance. The girl will guide you to your locker afterwards.
Making my first trip to Berlin and naturally had to look what was fun. The idea of FKK is so far from a concept I didn't bother to look it up. Anyway, luckily I did and now I'm here hoping for advice that might turn into a trip to Artemis!
Concern is mainly around safety:
-STD's. Any concerns from the past visitors?
-Non white visitor. I might be ignorant but how tolerant would an Asian patron be? Hoping the only color that matters is money.
-Other patrons. Anyone ever run into trouble there?
-Area. Staying at the Waldorf so this is my only reference. Is that a generally safe area to be in late night, esp waiting for taxi?
Thank you in advance, I hope to repay with detailed review as I'm leaving town Monday!
Making my first trip to Berlin and naturally had to look what was fun. The idea of FKK is so far from a concept I didn't bother to look it up. Anyway, luckily I did and now I'm here hoping for advice that might turn into a trip to Artemis!
Concern is mainly around safety:
-STD's. Any concerns from the past visitors?
-Non white visitor. I might be ignorant but how tolerant would an Asian patron be? Hoping the only color that matters is money.
-Other patrons. Anyone ever run into trouble there?
-Area. Staying at the Waldorf so this is my only reference. Is that a generally safe area to be in late night, esp waiting for taxi?
Thank you in advance, I hope to repay with detailed review as I'm leaving town Monday!STDs: Visitors members are routinely cleaned with disinfectant before BBJ, this reduces the risk, but does of course not eliminate it. I am a not too frequent regular guest, had rooms with probably 50 girls over the last two years, nothing ever happened to me.
Asian patrons: I have never noticed any discrimination, rather on the contrary.
Waldorf: perfectly safe area in the center of the old West-Berlin.
Hi,
I am making my first trip to Artemis this weekend and I've read quite a few posts, but couldn't get an answer to this. You enter and pay the house fee, go to the locker, get undressed and walk around in a robe. What happens when you hook up with a girl? Do you go back to your locker to get the cash so you can pay her 60 euros or is there some sort of tab system?
Thanks so much.Your key opens two lockers; a big one in the changing room for your clothes and a small safety deposit style box for cash, keys etc located between the ladies and mens changing room. When you come down from upstairs you will pay the girl at the safety deposit box.
-Non white visitor. I might be ignorant but how tolerant would an Asian patron be? Hoping the only color that matters is money.Relax, its western europe. Not asia. I think east asians are welcommed to all fkks.
The only club that sends people away as far as I know is golden times and these are brown mostly, but no club including GT sends Asians away. You are safe.
DethManRulz
09-16-16, 15:04
-STD's. Any concerns from the past visitors?If you already have herpes (as a good number of people do, perhaps even the majority), you will be fine.
Nooky Ninja
09-19-16, 07:16
1. What worries me a little is that I saw there will be a messe (Innotrans) in Berlin next week.
2. I was thinking of going to Artemis around 18:00 and staying till late.
3. And the last day (Friday) I was thinking to go to Artemis around noon and stay for 4-5 hours.
4. Do you think there will be a lot of shark attitude and upseling because of the messe?
5. There was a lot of talking that Jenna comes back in September but looks like we'll still have to wait.
1 &2. Yes it will be crowded-go little earlier like 1700 to be sure. Be prepared to leave at 2230 if it gets bad. Plenty of time.
3. Fri will be very quiet till about 1700. Also not so many girls til then. Up to you. Friday choices likely much better than Wed.
4. No. Management tells girls to be normal. Problem no more than normal. Use common sense. Just only go with girl if good vibe and discuss prices before room.
5. No Jenna. You will find others with handfulls.
Make report of adventures.
There was a lot of talking that Jenna comes back in September but looks like we'll still have to wait.
According to Twitter, Jenna will be back next Monday.
Uncle Volodya
09-20-16, 15:29
Hi guys!
I will also be visiting Berlin and Artemis some time in December. I have some control of my schedule and would like to stay away from the Messes -- no pun intended.
Is there a non mongering website that has info about when the Messe are happening?
Hi guys!
I will also be visiting Berlin and Artemis some time in December. I have some control of my schedule and would like to stay away from the Messes -- no pun intended.
Is there a non mongering website that has info about when the Messe are happening?Google Messe Berlin. The website includes an event calendar. A few days before a major event is usually when the lineup is at its best.
So, not enough girls on a Tuesday night. A ton of men and girls are actually declining sessions. Huge wait times. Girls are lazy in the room. Even one of my regulars and all time favorite grew lazier with time, but still the Best session of the day. Any body has a comment about Kiara (maybe I am spelling that wrong)? Beautiful girls with silicon.
This weekend there will be the Berlin Marathon with more than 40.000 starters, a lot of journalists and minor events on side.
Somebody knows from last years marathon-weekend if Artemis will be overcrowded on Saturday?
This weekend there will be the Berlin Marathon with more than 40.000 starters, a lot of journalists and minor events on side.
Somebody knows from last years marathon-weekend if Artemis will be overcrowded on Saturday?It wasnt overcrowded last year. Most marathon runners wouldn't go there the day before the race need to save energy, LOL.
Google Messe Berlin. The website includes an event calendar. A few days before a major event is usually when the lineup is at its best.Or after the messe. Or rather, that's when lineup is on top while guy: girl ratios are still good. If the masse ends on a weekend or a weekday is also a point to look at as girls comming for a messe will normally stay for the near weekends if it starts or ends mid week. Then again this is usually just the thing with 10-20%. Most will stay longer. But we are discussing part timers. A short few part timers may actually just stay for the most hectic days during the messe too. Then again, its all a lottery coupon. At IFA recently I saw almost every single girl I have seen there for the past year or so return (except for the girls who got thrown out in relation to the raid). So that was pretty much 95% of the artemis rooster. Only one or two germans I was missing. Like the fit black haired girl with the gun tatoo on her thigh. Didn't see any new faces at all though. But the number of girls was probably at 130-150. They need to recruit some soon.
Attempt number two, since first time I got an error.
My vacation started last week and I decided to spend two days in Artemis before going to southern shores. The idea was to try out some new girls. Unfortunately (but totally expected) there was not much new talent to see and I have pretty much tested out all the girls I desire.
A little side note:
The place had plenty of tourists from Scandinavian countries. I met some swedes (a nation that frequents Artemis very often) and they pointed out some 18-19 year old Norwegian boys that were circled by local shark life. The reason Scandinavians are making pilgrimage to places like Artemis is because Norway and Sweden eradicated the problem of prostitution by criminalizing buyers. By eradication I mean that middle class prostitution (FKK / Brothels and escort services through escort agencies) is more or less eradicated. Street hookers are of course available and high class prostitution also. So basically unless you are rich and connected and / or don't want to buy services from junkies, criminal organisations or shady pimps the only viable option is visiting central Europe..Kiara, not my usual type because she is too artificial. However, there is something so sweet about her that is hard to explain. The session felt very distant and professional with no kissing and the feeling of intimacy, but there was still something nice about there girl.
Somebody knows from last years marathon-weekend if Artemis will be overcrowded on Saturday?
It wasnt overcrowded last year.Confirm that. The usual Saturday crowd. No more and no less.
Has anybody seen Geraldine the Hungarian recently? I miss fucking the hell out of her.
FunkiMonki
09-22-16, 14:07
The Artemis website says that they will have free beer next Thursday to celebrate their 11th anniversary. What effect is that likely to have on the attendance and atmosphere of the club?
Member #4438
09-22-16, 16:03
I'm really bad with names, even the names of the girls I had good sessions with!
Can you guys help me out?
Girl 1:
Red hair, short hair length. Told me she used to have it shaved on the sides and if I'm not mistaken she told me she used to be blonde? I guess her old hairstyle was undercut and blonde, could've been red as well.
Height is about 160-165 cm without heels.
I'm fairly certain she was Romanian.
Age: 26.
She was quite popular the two days I saw her working.
Her body is petite and natural, her breast were probably A cups.
Saw this girl the last weekend of August. She was not there this weekend.
Girl 2:
Dark hair, almost black if not black. Her hair length is short, goes down to her ears.
Height is about 165-170 cm without heels.
Age: 25-29?
I believe she's Romanian, may look german.
The most unique thing about her has to be her figure, she has big hips (in a good way) and a big ass yet her waist and upper body is petite. Even her face is small and cute. Her breast are natural and A cups I believe.
She wears black tube socks or something similar (can't remember the name in English).
Saw this girl the last weekend of August. She was also there this weekend.
Girl 3:
Blonde with long hair. She's german. She looks like another german girl that I've seen at Artemis. Both of these girls wear some thin black fabric thing around their necks. The girl I'm looking for has bigger breast and is taller.
I don't think her breast is natural, maybe see cups?
Height: 168-174 without heels.
I'm like 40% sure she told me her name was Nella or Madeleine.
WarmStone25
09-22-16, 19:33
I visited Artemis again last Sunday. The weather was fine so I was able to enjoy the facilities outside as well as inside. I arrived by taxi this time because there was some disruption to the S-bahn. When I was ready I went looking to see if I could pick up a girl. I met Mandy from Austria, she had fair hair, but I do not know if it was natural. She was about 1650 mm tall, slim build. She performed well in the room for a standard 60 e session. I was satisfied. Next I met Gabriela from Poland at the main bar and then later at the Kino on the lower level. She was good looking but not stunningly so, but I liked her. She was about 1700 mm tall, well proportioned build. She performed well in the room for a standard 60 e session. Something about her sense of humour appealed to me, we got on well in the room, but this may be the way that she works. I was satisfied. Next I met a tall girl from Hamburg, I was trying to decide whether to spend my last 60 e or save it for a nice meal later, but I liked her. She was about 2000 mm tall with a well proportioned build. I have forgotten her name, but she was good in the room. I was satisfied. I have had some good sessions lately, when visiting Artemis. I arrived about 2. 30 and left about 8. 00 in the evening. I enjoyed the cool of the day but in the evening the main lounge was busy. I enjoyed the food at 6. 00 in the evening. The next time will be the third day of October.
Girl 1:Ellie.
Girl 2:Maybe Bulgarian Katharina. Not sure.
Girl 3:AFAIR Nella's got plastic boobs, maybe it's her. Sorry, really no idea.
Edit, nvm... missed a point on description.
Has anybody seen Geraldine the Hungarian recently? I miss fucking the hell out of her.May I ask why in the world do you miss fucking this one? I could never understand why people like her and book her, but to each his own. She reminds me of Sharks Sylvana with her aggressiveness client chasing. Assuming I have the right Geraldine in mind.
Kiara, not my usual type because she is too artificial. However, there is something so sweet about her that is hard to explain. The session felt very distant and professional with no kissing and the feeling of intimacy, but there was still something nice about there girl.What does Kiara look like? There was a Polish / German girl I has some AMAZING sessions with a few years back that I haven't seen in ages. She is quite short, big fake tits, big angel wings tattoo'd on her back and cherries with 'Lucky You' written below them just about her pussy.
I'd be really happy if she was back.
What does Kiara look like? There was a Polish / German girl I has some AMAZING sessions with a few years back that I haven't seen in ages. I'd be really happy if she was back.Unfortunately there's no reason to be really happy. Amazing Polish Kiara? Once upon a time.
What does Kiara look like? There was a Polish / German girl I has some AMAZING sessions with a few years back that I haven't seen in ages. She is quite short, big fake tits, big angel wings tattoo'd on her back and cherries with 'Lucky You' written below them just about her pussy.
I'd be really happy if she was back.This one is very short, has ear length black hair, red lipstick lips like cherries, beautiful blue eyes, silicon job which is not the best, heels with "diamonds" straps on ankles, red nail polish on feet. She turned down 4-5 sessions in 15 minutes on Tuesday right next to me. She is arrogant, no kissing, no pussy eating, but with all this attitude she is still very very likable. She tries to do a good job in the room, but she gets tired quickly. Not in a bad way, but in the honest way. You can can tell she is honest.
Member #4438
09-24-16, 12:38
I'm planning my next trip and the dates I'm looking at are also the same dates as Venus messe this year. I used the search function and read a little bit but it seems that the answers are not quite clear. The most concrete report has to be "30 min max waiting time" for a room on a Friday night during this messe. This was from a couple years ago, how about the last 1-2 years during Venus messe?
I have no problem if there's a lot of people but I'm not too excited about waiting for a room. I'll be there on a Thursday and a Friday, probably from 4-5 pm too 1-2 am.
May I ask why in the world do you miss fucking this one? I could never understand why people like her and book her, but to each his own. She reminds me of Sharks Sylvana with her aggressiveness client chasing. Assuming I have the right Geraldine in mind.I think you have wrong one as she rarely is in main bar as she only go now with booking only with her regulars. She never approach clients from her.
This one is very short, has ear length black hair, red lipstick lips like cherries, beautiful blue eyes, silicon job which is not the best, heels with "diamonds" straps on ankles, red nail polish on feet. She turned down 4-5 sessions in 15 minutes on Tuesday right next to me. She is arrogant, no kissing, no pussy eating, but with all this attitude she is still very very likable. She tries to do a good job in the room, but she gets tired quickly. Not in a bad way, but in the honest way. You can can tell she is honest.Thanks for the answer. That's not my Kiara unfortunately.
VonderJohn
09-25-16, 14:00
So lets say I accepted to go with a lady into a room. But upon talking with her I felt that she's not excited or won't be giving me the treat that I won't. Can I cancel and leave without paying? Note that she hasn't given me anything and we didn't do any intercourse / BJ. We were just talking on the bed and I disagreed with what she will be giving. Can I change my mind and leave at that moment without paying?
So lets say I accepted to go with a lady into a room. But upon talking with her I felt that she's not excited or won't be giving me the treat that I won't. Can I cancel and leave without paying? Note that she hasn't given me anything and we didn't do any intercourse / BJ. We were just talking on the bed and I disagreed with what she will be giving. Can I change my mind and leave at that moment without paying?Anytime you want you just have to fight LOL.
So lets say I accepted to go with a lady into a room. But upon talking with her I felt that she's not excited or won't be giving me the treat that I won't. Can I cancel and leave without paying? Note that she hasn't given me anything and we didn't do any intercourse / BJ. We were just talking on the bed and I disagreed with what she will be giving. Can I change my mind and leave at that moment without paying?Interesting question and it will be worthwhile seeing what regular members of the various FKK threads post by way of response. Of course a natural response (but not an answer) is that you ought to ensure you do your interviewing downstairs before you told the girl you wanted to go to the room. You would normally (but not always) have had the same negative feedback you got during your chat on the bed in the room and could have avoided the awkward situation.
But IMHO you should not have to pay provided you told her pretty quickly in the room you wanted to terminate the session without any touching, sex, DFK, BBBJ. You are taking the girl to the room for those services (or at least 99% of guys do) and if you've not had anything I don't think you should have to pay if you kill the session very quickly. But if you got to the room and spent 10 minutes chatting to her in there on a bed and then say you are ending the session, again without receiving any of the above services, I think it changes. You've bought some company with the lady and have had one third of a 30 minute session. She would no doubt then argue that she went to the room with you, naked, was on the bed and ready and willing to perform but you wanted to talk and you should pay her. I'd then be inclined to agree.
I've had sessions (not just in Artemis but elsewhere) where the girl promises the earth in the lounge, DFK, fingers in pussy, ball licking. Saying everything to get you stirred up and agree, only to find she becomes a cold fish in the room. If I've found them attractive I then just say I want sex and do my best to give them a pounding in doggy for as long as I can give it. Not the sort of behavior I like at all but it's my way of saying "if you want to mislead me downstairs and be cold up here, I've got my own way of ensuring that I'm getting something for my money". But your question is more about ending a session shortly after getting into the room and doing nothing but talking.
As stated. It is an interesting question and I wonder what other guys think though your question should be in the Lounge or FAQ threads instead of just in the Artemis thread.
If the service is not going to be as agreed than you have the right to pull out.
If contact has begun then you are obligated to pay for 30 minutes. If you don't you will need a trip to the front desk for a spirited three way discussion.
After all that is done and you have saved your precious euros, try getting the next girl to the room with you. Best of luck, these situations are best avoided.
So lets say I accepted to go with a lady into a room. But upon talking with her I felt that she's not excited or won't be giving me the treat that I won't. Can I cancel and leave without paying? Note that she hasn't given me anything and we didn't do any intercourse / BJ. We were just talking on the bed and I disagreed with what she will be giving. Can I change my mind and leave at that moment without paying?
I think you have wrong one as she rarely is in main bar as she only go now with booking only with her regulars. She never approach clients from her.That would make sense. I'm intrigued, how do I find this one?
That would make sense. I'm intrigued, how do I find this one?As far as I know, she only take client on appointment only, last I saw her was this June. She was really good in room and beautiful. I think she is quitting soon or already quit.
VonderJohn
09-26-16, 16:14
I've had sessions (not just in Artemis but elsewhere) where the girl promises the earth in the lounge, DFK, fingers in pussy, ball licking. Saying everything to get you stirred up and agree, only to find she becomes a cold fish in the room...This is exactly the reason for my question. The chat at the lounge may not be exact. It may be a bait. Everything may suddenly change once she enters the room and thinks she has taken you for granted. I think the best thing to do is to detect any bad / unwelcome / changed attitude and end the session immediately. Because in the 5-10 minutes during which you guys talk, she could have found another customer. So I think its only fair to allow a 1-2 minute decision making time, and it doesn't need more in my opinion.
By the way, in case you leave the room in 1 minute and break the deal, can she hold anything against you? I mean can she go to the front desk and complain? I don't think they (Artemis management) have the right to interfere, do they?
Nooky Ninja
09-27-16, 01:16
This is exactly the reason for my question. The chat at the lounge may not be exact. It may be a bait. Everything may suddenly change once she enters the room and thinks she has taken you for granted. I think the best thing to do is to detect any bad / unwelcome / changed attitude and end the session immediately. All this get in very grey area quickly. If you do not have any touching and you decide to stop and leave, if within a few minutes, it is possible. Ninja has done this maybe 2 times in many years, and all because things not clearly discussed before going up, just wow let"s go. Bad idea with strangers.
But how will depend on you and girl and possible negotiation about it. If she is cool, and you are cool saying look I don"t want to make scene but chemistry just not right let us stop, she may simply agree. If you have already spent 5-10 minutes in room, you could offer 10-20 Euro or so because she has theoretically given up other offers for you. It will all depend on what you discussed before zimmer. You need to be prepared and maybe say to girl "we will go to front desk and discuss". That can work in your favor as girls will not want any scene that damage their reputation in front of management and they will consider how likely they could win in eyes of management etc. Sometimes 10-20 Euro to avoid all this good compromise and good to save face both sides. Management usually pretty fair but of course your risk is they side with girl and you pay full 60. It will all depend on situation and how long you have been in room before you decide.
Point is you really to avoid all this, so at all times be polite and must really try to be clear on expectations and good vibe of mutual attraction before going up to room. Always better to talk a little before deciding, and especially if your have expectations of certain acts get all very clear. Better for everyone. If you have doubt do not go upstairs. Plenty of other options.
My first time at an infamous FKK club a few weeks ago. I'm not sure what to write that hasn't been said about Artemis, but here's my report:
I had only one day to check the club out and unfortunately it fell on a wed (lingerie day). Took the S-Bahn over from Charlottenburg, super easy. Arrived around 14:00 and the place was moderately busy. For me it was fine with about a 1:5 ratio men to women. I'm terrible with names so I'll try and describe these girls (regulars will probably know who they are).
Girl 1.
I made a real amateur move and went for the hottest thing within range of me. This turned out to be a petite Romanian hustler who approached me (I think she said Polish but she was definitely Romanian) tattoos, large bolt-ONS, cute face, terrible service. First she made me super self-conscious about the condoms I brought. Like will the other girls give me the same issue? Secondly, it was mechanical and had trouble finishing with all her distracting bitchiness. I barely remember but I think I jerked myself off and finished on her large fake tits.
Girl 2.
Determined to not make the same mistake twice I took my time. I told myself the next one I will make a move based entirely on chemistry, I will approach her, discuss details upfront, etc etc. So I hung out for a bit just observing people, and this slim dark haired Greek or Macedonian about 23 walks in. She wasn't what you would consider conventionally beautiful, but she had a fit body and her face did something for me, sometimes I like girls with interesting features. Anyway, she didn't seem all that popular, with the customers nor the clique of Romanian chicks watching like hawks by the entrance. I bet she was not a regular at the club. Started a conversation with her, seemed like a cool girl, made sure to mention the condoms I brought, not a problem, moved to a room. Had a fun time. This girl took her time, acted like she genuinely enjoyed sex, gave great overall service.
Girl 3.
So while I was waiting for Girl 2, I was approached by a few pros. One was a petite Blonde German about 27 I'd guess. I didn't pick her since I wanted to choose my girl for round 2, but she was super cool and hung out for bit chatting, not really trying to push her services. So after Girl 2 I run into the German in the movie theater where we start making out on one of the couches, she starts fondling (such a pro) and of course its difficult to resist the urge at this point and I'm like BBBJ now please. Actually we had great Chemistry and she may have been stroking the ego in addition to other things, but she seemed totally into the shape of my member. We moved to the room off to the side and she was a talented lay. Didn't feel rushed, in fact she was acting super sweet and I dug it. I'm also guessing she assumed I was younger than her (which I don't think I am, but I look very young).
All the girls charged the same standard rate which everyone pays by the way.
At this point, I'm getting fairly hungry and not wanting to eat the club food, I decide 3 rounds are enough and head out. In all, Artemis lives up to the hype for me. I'll have to try FKKs in other cities next time I find myself in Deutschland. You guys have a great thing going for you.
This is exactly the reason for my question. The chat at the lounge may not be exact. It may be a bait. Everything may suddenly change once she enters the room and thinks she has taken you for granted. I think the best thing to do is to detect any bad / unwelcome / changed attitude and end the session immediately. Because in the 5-10 minutes during which you guys talk, she could have found another customer. So I think its only fair to allow a 1-2 minute decision making time, and it doesn't need more in my opinion.
By the way, in case you leave the room in 1 minute and break the deal, can she hold anything against you? I mean can she go to the front desk and complain? I don't think they (Artemis management) have the right to interfere, do they?If that happen to me, then I will short the session to 30 min and I will fuck her so hard from doggy position to punish her and only damage would be 60 euro and her destroyed pussy LOL.
Nooky Ninja
09-28-16, 21:09
I will fuck her so hard from doggy position to punish her and only damage would be 60 euro and her destroyed pussy LOL.Did not know you can major in etiquette at Trump University.
Hessen Bub
09-28-16, 21:43
I don't think they (Artemis management) have the right to interfere, do they?Officially no. It's a deal between her and you. She can always call the police if she thinks you owe her money for services she offered.
HB.
The Artemis website says that they will have free beer next Thursday to celebrate their 11th anniversary. What effect is that likely to have on the attendance and atmosphere of the club?I attended last years party, it was a cock fest, to many guests, difficult to take a girl to a room, only had one early session, all ladies wore dresses, good BBQ and fireworks though.
I had a good time time when I attended Artemis 9 years birthday party.
Sex with two of my favorite ebony girls and free beer. It was very crowded at the party though.
Officially no. It's a deal between her and you. She can always call the police if she thinks you owe her money for services she offered.
HB.Berlin police will come again with pleasure leading 900 police officers according to media reports LOL.
I never had money issue with girls at Artemis, they are pretty straight up, bad service, sometimes, but I found service is worst in Hessen for that.
This is my first party.
The girls are dressed. Some looked better dressed than usual. Some the other way around.
I scored early with Cassandra 23 yo half Turk half Caucasian girl from Dortmund. Has light brown hair, Turkish eyes, small body, nice backend.
Despite early up sell attempt for prostate massage (her on me), back door exploration (me on her) and a meek attempt at payment for kissing scam (really! We settled in for an hour during which she showed major resilience in BBBJ department ending in CIM.
The place then became packed with high sausage density, mostly pleasant, a couple really drunk on the free beer, smoke in main bar area very formidable.
There were extended dance performances including recurrent south american themes.
The food was good, Oxen on a spit, alternative was pork with a variety of vegetable dishes, various Ofal dishes from the Ox.
Not a bad night out but if you want to do the business, there is always tomorrow.
BusinessMan123
10-02-16, 16:29
Planning my first trip to a FKK club next week in Berlin. It has to be Artemis by what I've read.
Do the girls supply condoms for the session or do you have to bring your own? Not quite sure how the whole FKK thing works, but I'll do my research before going in.
Looking for some big fake tits ladies while in Berlin. Either in FKK's or independents / agency.
Hessen Bub
10-02-16, 17:49
Big fake tits. Artemis is the place to go. And the girls will have condoms. The standard ones. Any special requirements on rubber. Bring your own.
HB.
Planning my first trip to a FKK club next week in Berlin. It has to be Artemis by what I've read.
Do the girls supply condoms for the session or do you have to bring your own? Not quite sure how the whole FKK thing works, but I'll do my research before going in.
Looking for some big fake tits ladies while in Berlin. Either in FKK's or independents / agency.As Artemis is the only club in town I'd say yes.
It was Sunday evening I visited Artemis and banged Evan. I did not have any other girls, better to quit when you are winning!
Cheers, FF.A big thanks to Finnish Fucker for his updated intel. Decided to make the journey back to Artemis two weekends ago on a Saturday to see Evan after missing out on her during the IFA in early September.
Arrived early evening and was informed by reception she was working that night. But after looking around for a couple of hours, I was starting to think if she was truly there. Then lo and behold I saw her. Apparently she starts work at around 9 pm. Long dark brown hair, mini bra-less corset and tight cutoff denim mini-skirt exposing her gorgeous pussy. Also wearing thick black framed glasses. Smoking hot slim body with nice silicon B's and nipples that would poke your eyes out if they were faced in your direction close up.
At first, I didn't recognize her because she had changed hair color from light brown to her natural color which was dark brown and I partially forgotten what her face looked like. But on closer inspection, I remembered that Olivia Wilde (actress) twinkle in her eyes and facial resemblance and off to the races we went. Really nice girl and great Optifick.
She'll be around to mid-October then taking a break for a few weeks. Hope to catch her again in late November when I return to Germany.
Howie.
Ventured here on rainy Saturday.
Briefly went with.
Mary 29.5 yo 165 cm Bulgarian blonde. Familiar territory. Did not disappoint.
Suna 23 yo 158 cm Thai girl born in Germany now from Hamburg. First meeting very wet pussy, provocative encouragement, super FK, nice girl, quite stunning. GFE.
Kimberly. Now 26-27 yo Barbados / German mix 172 cm from Hamburg - 4-5 years ago a regular at Art. Now 4-5 days per month due to other commitments. Loud and encouraging once into the deal. DATY /69 well received. Made me cum in condom during FK. This is rare, combination of active folk dancing, cute face, coercive statements, mutual playing. She still has it.
A good day out.
Nooky Ninja
10-03-16, 14:06
Looking for some big fake tits ladies while in Berlin. Either in FKK's or independents / agency.J- Some sometimes at A but make advanced search also on Berlin Intim and Kaufmich. Many other options. Example http://www.berlinintim.de/sedcard-calida-41508.html?t=Lj0OW. Also check Holly & Gizelle @ van Kampen and Klaudia @ Ginas Tango Rosa. In Berlin Bordellos thread.
CaliTexMex
10-04-16, 16:04
This is a repost from the Berlin thread.
Berlin is a fantastic city for sex. It is 24/7, legal, with high quality.
It may be the best place for clubbing and sex in Europe.
Spent the afternoon until about midnight in Artemis on a Saturday. Earlier in the day the place was quiet, with maybe 20 girls total and 40-50 men. The breakfast had been out a while but was still decent. It was quite warm outside with bright sun so many people were outside. As this was not such a nice summer people were appreciative and in a good mood due to the gorgeous weather.
Some sharks tried playing some games soon after finishing eating. One girl who I thought was having a friendly conversation as it was my first time walked upstairs with me to show me the place. She immediately demanded 60 Euros. I laughed and told her I was not ready to go with a girl. She threatened to have me kicked out if I didn't pay. I told her good luck and walked myself back down the stairs. The other sharks were upset. I said, "If you would have not tried to scam me I would have gone with you in some time. Why would you treat people like this?" Their only response was an indignant, "Time is money. ".
To brush off the experience I decided to hit the weights in the gym. Worked about for about 45 minutes while chatting with some girls who were working out in their break. They were hot blonde German women.
I asked them if they worked there and they laughed. "Work?" They smiled at each other and walked to the showers.
In the gym I met a group of guys who were aimlessly wandering around. Decided to chat with them for a while. We decided to go upstairs and see how the scene was. We decided to get a drink and relax on the couches.
After 15 minutes or so I spotted a stunning Turkish girl who was about 5'11". She looked like a runway model. Smoking a cigarette, she gave me an inviting glance. Decided to stop and talk with her.
She mentioned 30 minutes was 60 Euros and included BBBJ. After we went up to the room.
She started by sucking me quite hard for about 15 minutes. Her technique, even with coaching, was a little rough for me. She finally found a decent rhythm and got me hard. After I motioned, she put a condom on me. We fucked in missionary, doggy, and had her ride me cowgirl. I finally finished in missionary. She gave me a naughty look while she played with herself. She did give a massage of five minutes to start the session.
After, I hit the showers and came back to have some water. The cappucino was excellent, also. Beers are 10 Euros and you must buy tokens. Thankfully you have to pay because later I think things may get out of hand if they had unlimited free alcohol.
The group I met decided to have some of the dinner which had just come out. It was excellent.
Some Chile con carne dish. Really top notch food and fruits available. Healthy options if you want it.
After eating we hung out in the pool and hot tub. The weather was perfect, and many men were outside.
We met some other men who were alone and open to chat. It was great having to make friends there as no electronic devices are allowed in public. We chatted for about an hour while getting some sun.
After we decided to go in. I immediately spotted a girl darker girl. She was from Romania. She had some different lingere on. We hit it off quickly and I decided to take her. Same deal as the last girl.
We went to a different room. She started with sucking me. She did not have the best technique. After maybe 10 minutes we decided to go at it. She was rather passive in the event. It was hard to stay motivated. She could tell I was having a hard time staying interested and did a little more to try and make it exciting. After a while I finally found a good rhythm with her and finished in doggy style.
After returning it was dark outside. Many more men and women had arrived. Decided to drink some more and eat some more food. Wasn't sure if I was going to take another girl or not. And then I saw her.
A girl named Alejandra, a name I will not forget, walked across who was exactly what I was looking for.
Hot little spinner, natural red hair, light skin from Spain. She was 31 years old. Gorgeous. All natural, as were all the other women I took.
I had to wait for her to finish talking with an older man before I got my chance. We talked briefly. I immediately took her. To say it was the best session was an understatement. She immediately started with BBBJ when entering the room, not even bothering to wash me off first like the other girls had. She had a passion the other girls did not have. I was so drained that I felt I could last forever. She reminded me I had to finish soon as we were over time. I finally found the right groove and finished the best in missionary with her. She was genuinely moaning and rubbing my body. Perfect.
We laid there for about five minutes and talked some. She was really into it. A true GFE. We both went downstairs where it was absolutely ridiculous. Many guys were lining up along the railing to the stairs, hoping to get the first chance at their girl of choice. It was around 11 PM.
I hung out with my new friends a while as they watched and complained about how many guys there were.
If you hadn't had your fill by then you were out of luck. It was way too packed. Realizing I wasn't going to take any more girls I decided to head out. The music in the venue was excellent, for those who are interested. Did not see any girls dancing on the poles when I was there.
I'll talk about my experiences at the 24/7 brothels of Berlin next, as I spent most of my time in Aston and Stella.
TheBigBang
10-04-16, 17:16
Did not know you can major in etiquette at Trump University.Oh well said sir! ROFL!
Hey fellas,
Got a few questions. I'll start with the weirdest one to get this nonsense out of the system:
1. In Amsterdam, I've been with two girls. Both of them addressed the larger size of my penis (it's around 7 x6. 5), and one of them said that penetration would cost extra because of that. I hope that's nonsense and I'll hear none of that in Artemis, what do you say?
2. I'm arriving to Berlin in around 17:00 PM Thursday. That means I'll arrive to Artemis minimum on 20:00 that day. Is it a good day? Is it too late? Has anyone stayed in until late night? What I consider good = Not very crowded, and some nice amount of women to choose. I'm not very experienced with this stuff (the 2 prost. In Amsterdam were my first experiences).
3. I'm a bit ashamed of my body. I'm slightly overweight and slightly hairy, I know this is silly. But I expect no one will give me any hard time about my looks.
4. What's the time you recommend staying in the place? Is it safe leaving it -alone- in after night hours (2-3 AM)?
Thanks.
Nooky Ninja
10-05-16, 06:40
Hey fellas,
Got a few questions. I'll start with the weirdest one to get this nonsense out of the system:
1. In Amsterdam, I've been with two girls. Both of them addressed the larger size of my penis (it's around 7 x6. 5), and one of them said that penetration would cost extra because of that. I hope that's nonsense and I'll hear none of that in Artemis, what do you say?
2. I'm arriving to Berlin in around 17:00 PM Thursday. That means I'll arrive to Artemis minimum on 20:00 that day. Is it a good day? Is it too late? Has anyone stayed in until late night? What I consider good = Not very crowded, and some nice amount of women to choose. I'm not very experienced with this stuff (the 2 prost. In Amsterdam were my first experiences).
3. I'm a bit ashamed of my body. I'm slightly overweight and slightly hairy, I know this is silly. But I expect no one will give me any hard time about my looks.
4. What's the time you recommend staying in the place? Is it safe leaving it -alone- in after night hours (2-3 AM)?
Thanks.Nothing to worry about on all 4 points. Only thing that matter is size of your wallet.
Nooky Ninja
10-05-16, 08:20
1. I've been with two girls. Both of them addressed the larger size of my penis (it's around 7 x6. 5), and one of them said that penetration would cost extra because of that. I hope that's nonsense and I'll hear none of that in Artemis, what do you say?Ninja now cannot sleep thinking about this thing you packing. Too much info. Sound like Rubik's Pube. But as long as not put in nose or ear, should be no problem.
2. I'm arriving to Berlin in around 17:00 PM Thursday. That means I'll arrive to Artemis minimum on 20:00 that day. Is it a good day? Is it too late? Has anyone stayed in until late night? What I consider good = Not very crowded, and some nice amount of women to choose.2000 good time to start. Friday and Saturday maybe slightly more girls, will be more crowded after 2300-Thurs fine won't be problem.
3. I'm a bit ashamed of my body. I'm slightly overweight and slightly hairy, I know this is silly. But I expect no one will give me any hard time about my looks.Half men at Artemis look like this. You will feel like you are in big family of many brothers. In A, Euros uber alles and make everyone handsome. Also beer.
4. What's the time you recommend staying in the place? Is it safe leaving it -alone- in after night hours (2-3 AM)?Safe area generally. Just keep eyes open going north then east from tire garage over bridge from street to S Bahn station if you go that way. Should not be a problem. Going south to Kronprins Hotel also fine.
Thank you for the kind answer.
As this is going to cost a lot, I wouldn't want to take the risk. Is there a place in Berlin where I can buy any help like Kamagra or (less preferred) cialis? Off the counter I guess.
Friday morning checked out of my room in Schneberg, and took the S-bahn ring clockwise up to Artemis, got off at Halensee stn, this is a good tip if coming from this direction, as there is a bank and ATM across the road, and then you can walk to Artemis in 5 minutes.
Arrived early at about 11:30, place was obviously still quiet, especially as they'd just had the 11 year party the night before, I got showered and walked into the lounge, ordered a espresso, and got chatting to Priscilla and her mate, she is a German blonde barbie type, with large boobs and tattoos, told her I'd come find her later. Had a walk about and got some lunch, back in the lounge I spotted Mya, she is a pretty Hungarian brunette, I have known her from previous trips, as I've taken her friend but not her, she was friendly and was trying to get me to do a 3 some with her friend, I rarely ever do 3 somes, but I would of taken Mya, not sure why I didn't, guess I had no rush to punt, so went downstairs to the wellness area, and took a sauna and a dip in the pool.
Priscilla half hour.
The time was about 14:30 so fancied a first punt of the day, Priscilla was still about, so went over to her at the bar, and we were soon off to a room, I've sessioned with her a couple of times, and she is good, so was looking forward to it, she has the fake barbiedoll look, long blonde hair extensions to her waist, toned and tanned size 10 body with lots of tattoos, large fake 700 CC implants, pumped lips.
This woman looks like a pornstar, and also performs like one, Priscilla was fine with me playing with her big boobs, and she kissed lightly, OWO was very well done, and she did not rush or try to upsell to CIM, let her carry on sucking me, did various positions, she took a good pounding.
Took a rest and a drink at the bar, got talking to a German-Thai girl called Suna, quite pretty 23 yr old, she seemed like a fun girl, but as I'd just returned from the room wanted a break, unfortunately I never saw Suna later that evening. I decided to leave and check into the hostel only a short distance away, wanted somewhere to get a few hours kip, bed in 6 bed dorm 13, made my bed and headed back to Artemis.
Back at the club I was in the lounge again, and was chatting to Vanity, she's a pretty German-African girl, who I'd sessioned last year, made a note to put her on the list.
Anja half hour.
A little later I got talking to her friend Anja, she was a cute young German blonde girl, slim size 8, small boobs light tan and few tattoos, she was bubbly and funny in the bar, and I fancied a second punt, so off we went, another good punt, decent OWO, and sex in several positions, wasn't amazing but efficient.
By this time I was starving, so got some dinner, which wasn't bad, potato and meatballs. Wasn't in a rush for another session, even though girls were trying to tempt me, I sat in the lounge, on one of the mattresses to the side, and watched the room for talent, I spotted my evil nemesis the Hungarian MILF Virginia, the one hooker at Artemis who hates my guts! Not guilty gents, as shaggy said it wasn't me! Maybe she mistook me for someone else, but anyway she totally ignores me, no tell a lie she did actually look at me a couple of times that evening.
I went down to the sauna, for a sweat, I used to be able to take it, wanted out after 10 minutes, boy the ice water pool woke me up! Had a bit of a swim in the main pool, then got a drink at the downstairs bar.
Alessandra half hour.
Took a wander back upstairs, time was 10 pm and club was fairly busy, was looking for Suna or another target, bumped into Alessandra, said she was Spanish, petite brunette of 32, told me all the things she wanted to do to me, with many girls it's all talk, but got a good vibe with her, so off we went upstairs, now this girl was all over me, DFK and soon on her knees sucking me off, in fact even gagging PSE on my dick, this lady was true to her words, let her carry on oral for a good while, then got condom on and did doggy, and Mish to finish.
It was getting late, but the club would go on till 5 am, so still had several hours left, but didn't plan to stay all night, there was a cute young brunette with glasses that I've seen at the club before, never got to chat to her before, every time I saw her back in the lounge she was with another guy, so popular girl, just one of those things, will try harder next time.
Anna half hour.
Now the last punt of the night was a sexy busty blonde Romanian called Anna, she tempted me at the bar, looked hot, and was funny, not to sharky, so took her to a room, a very enjoyable 30 minutes, good oral and sex in several positions, no rush to make me cum, would repeat with Anna.
I took the usual shower and got a drink in the lounge, people watched for a bit, then got bored and tired, so left at about 3 am, short taxi back to my hostel.
Saturday.
I returned to Artemis Saturday evening at 8 pm, had flight home on Sunday morning so planed on staying to closing, the place was fairly busy, with some talent in the lounge, went and got some dinner, then sat in the lounge, there was a few girls I liked the look of, but wasn't in a big rush to session, so went downstairs for a sauna and swim.
Came back up half hour or so later, I was walking around the lounge, and bumped into a guy from another board called Ben, had no idea he's be at Artemis, so had a chat with him in the lounge, and took a walk about together looking for a girl.
Ben went to the room with a Austrian blonde, forgot her name, she had tried to tempt me earlier, but wasn't sure, but apparently she was a good session. I was looking for a session, the few girls on my list all seemed to be busy, and struggled to find someone I liked, but that's just me becoming to fussy.
Erika half hour.
At about 4 am a hour till closing the choice had really thinned out, and downstairs by the kino bumped into Erika a brunette MILF in her 40's with large fake tits, straight to the room by kino, OWO was good, but a few times she tried to rush into sex, but I stopped her, until I was ready, sex in a few positions, but Erika really hates sweat, I was shagging away and of course I will be sweaty, this got in the way, and hampered me from cumming, gave up at 30 minutes, and called it a night, got train to airport.
I was hoping to see Jenna back at the club, but she is still off work, fingers crossed she will return.
RioDeJaneiro1
10-06-16, 19:36
Hi guys, Jenna was supposed to come back in August-September. Can anybody confirm if she's back to Artemis? Thanks in advance.
RioDeJaneiro1
10-06-16, 19:47
Hi guys, Jenna was supposed to come back in August-September. Can anybody confirm if she's back to Artemis? Thanks in advance.Sorry guys, just read the post below mine. She's not back. Very sad. Are there other girls with her boob size at Artemis? I want to give it a try if that's the case. I'm used to Frankfurt, close to France. Berlin is a long way, must be worth it. I share the same views as Mr. Ho. Palace Frankfurt has stunners although sharky. Sharks is volatile, sometimes some nice surprises but rather stable in LU. Oase is falling in pieces, poor LU and new trend of sharkiness which was not the case before. Remember of a very poor experience with a busty albanian at Oase. Never again. As a result, need to try new places. Hesitating between Paradise Saarbrucken and Artemis. Who has more sillies will win. So far, paradise seems less sharky but Artemis looks more silliconed. Life is tough. Any advice more than welcomed. I consider myself as a newbie, only 12 FKK visits in my counter so far, all in Franfkfurt.
RioDeJaneiro1
10-06-16, 19:48
I was hoping to see Jenna back at the club, but she is still off work, fingers crossed she will return.Hi, many thanks for this report. Did you see any girl with the same boob size as Jenna?
Hi, many thanks for this report. Did you see any girl with the same boob size as Jenna?There are some Barbie types with 700-800 CC, but nothing as big as Jenna, you could look for Priscilla and Virginia.
SuppenHuhn
10-07-16, 10:04
I think the biggest boobs at this moment are Hollys boobs. Holly is a German girl, I estimate them from 800-1000.
HI Guys,
I am thinking about Visiting Artemis I wanted to know how is the line up currently in Artemis? Which is the best day to visit Artemis? Is there any upselling that exists in Artemis? And how to reach Artemis? Can anyone please help me with this information. Are there only Silicone Girls in Artemis? Compared to Frankfurt FKK's is the entry in Artemis 80€ and is half an hour session 60€ compared to the 50€ in Frankfurt FKK's ?
Don't know how it's currently but I guess it's good. Not sure which day is the best. I would say Friday or Saturday. Wednesday is the lingerie day. Yes there are upselling. You can reach Artemis easy by S-Bahn.
There used to be many silicone girls. Yes prices are what you mentioned.
Don't know how it's currently but I guess it's good. Not sure which day is the best. I would say Friday or Saturday. Wednesday is the lingerie day. Yes there are upselling. You can reach Artemis easy by S-Bahn.
There used to be many silicone girls. Yes prices are what you mentioned.So when you say there is upselling that exists in Artemis for what all does it exists? Does the standard session include Kissing, DATY or is it extra for that? I am not interested in CIM but even for Kissing and DATY is it extra?
Can you please tell me exactly how to reach Artemis by S-Bahn? Like which number? Frankfurt clubs 30 minutes session is 50€ so Artemis is 60?
So when you say there is upselling that exists in Artemis for what all does it exists? Does the standard session include Kissing, DATY or is it extra for that? I am not interested in CIM but even for Kissing and DATY is it extra?
Can you please tell me exactly how to reach Artemis by S-Bahn? Like which number? Frankfurt clubs 30 minutes session is 50 so Artemis is 60?If you have actually done any research and read this thread you will know it's 60€ at Artemis, transport has been mentioned numerous times, if you google map Artemis you will see nearby S-bahn station Westkreuz, I was there last weekend, the LU was good, but it gets busy late evening, yes upselling does occur, I was asked if I wanted CIM a couple of times, but when I declined not mentioned again, kissing doesn't seem that common these days, but I'm not that bothered.
If you have actually done any research and read this thread you will know it's 60 at Artemis, transport has been mentioned numerous times, if you google map Artemis you will see nearby S-bahn station Westkreuz, I was there last weekend, the LU was good, but it gets busy late evening, yes upselling does occur, I was asked if I wanted CIM a couple of times, but when I declined not mentioned again, kissing doesn't seem that common these days, but I'm not that bothered.So is it uncommon that the girl would kiss in a standard 30 minutes 60€ session? And further how to go to Artemis from Westkreuz station?
Blue Swede
10-07-16, 17:36
And further how to go to Artemis from Westkreuz station?Exit the station, pass the parking lot, go left 200 meters, go left into Artemis parking. You can't miss!
So is it uncommon that the girl would kiss in a standard 30 minutes 60 session? And further how to go to Artemis from Westkreuz station?Some will kiss others won't, if it's that important ask before taking a girl to a room, you want directions from the station to Artemis? You'll be needing help to find a hooker in a brothel next fella, look at the map, you can even see it in streetview.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Artemis/@52.499612, 13.2806907,17 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x47 a850 ce91 e30 a01:0 xb2547536 be255797!8 m2!3 d52.4994736!4 d13.2823554?hl=en.
Hi,
Just return from Artemis with mixed feeling, its seems that the are no new girls and line up just get older and older and no new young comers. Its not a bad experience to come back and it my first FKK I visited so I have a good memory of it but one of my regular (Tara) is missing and Frankfurt seems now a better place for FKK vacation.
Just thinking about Frankfurt, what is better from this 3 (Manhenten, world, place)?
London Traveller
10-08-16, 21:07
Just thinking about Frankfurt, what is better from this 3 (Manhenten, world, place)?Sharks! *.
It was getting late, but the club would go on till 5 am, so still had several hours left, but didn't plan to stay all night, there was a cute young brunette with glasses that I've seen at the club before, never got to chat to her before, every time I saw her back in the lounge she was with another guy, so popular girl, just one of those things, will try harder next time.
Could be Evan. Did she have silicon tits (B cup) with pointed nipples? Tallish, slightly tanned and slim with no tattoos?
The only other girl I know who wear glasses is Samantha but she doesn't seem to fit your spec as described. Bulgarian, fake tits (C cup), dark blond hair, some body tattoos, MILF-look.
Howie.
Nooky Ninja
10-08-16, 22:01
Forgot-a week ago, Stern magazine had cover article "The Artemis File". How it really works. Nothing really new to ISG but anyway. Phariser is resident scholar on all this stuff.
http://www.stern.de/wirtschaft/job/die-akte-artemis--der-stern-blickt-hinter-die-kulissen-des-luxusbordells-7080166.html
Article says 25 M revenue, 3 M profit per year. IPO might mean Initial Pussy Offering (if not grabbed by Trump). Gentlemen: Start your (translator) engines.
London Traveller
10-08-16, 22:52
Is this club worth going to? I was rather bored last time I was there. No girls with good personalities, all really much too professional for my tastes. I am thinking of trying ohlala.com and maybe wayfare-escort.de
Hi,
Just return from Artemis with mixed feeling, its seems that the are no new girls and line up just get older and older and no new young comers. Its not a bad experience to come back and it my first FKK I visited so I have a good memory of it but one of my regular (Tara) is missing and Frankfurt seems now a better place for FKK vacation.
Just thinking about Frankfurt, what is better from this 3 (Manhenten, world, place)?So did you not go room with any lady?
Article says 25 M revenue, 3 M profit per year. But the 25 M revenue include also the total revenues of the club girls. And article says half makes club, that means mainly with entry fees from guys and girls plus the revenues for alcohol drinks and rent for dorms. That mean Artemis has for the 361 open days at average about 400 paying guests and girls. The 12,5 M revenues for the girls mean with an daily average of 100 girls a daily revenue of about 350 Euro, with daily average of 70 girls around 500 euro per day. The revenues for the club they can find at Artemis accounts but the revenues for the girls can only be a rough estimation.
Finnish Fucker
10-09-16, 11:30
Berlin is a fantastic city for sex. It is 24/7, legal, with high quality.
It may be the best place for clubbing and sex in Europe. Berlin is great city for clubbing and has vivid night life. But for paysex there are much better options in Germany and better FKK clubs than Artemis.
Berlin is great city for clubbing and has vivid night life. But for paysex there are much better options in Germany and better FKK clubs than Artemis.Best is in the eye of the beholder :-)
What is your favorite? Mine is the NRW region. Lots of clubs; lots of action.
MaxSquatter
10-10-16, 14:48
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-prostitution-law-condoms-sex-workers-bundesrat-vote-approved-date-comes-in-brothels-illegal-a7326056.html Would this new law coming in July remove bareback blowjobs from available activities at artemis?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-prostitution-law-condoms-sex-workers-bundesrat-vote-approved-date-comes-in-brothels-illegal-a7326056.html Would this new law coming in July remove bareback blowjobs from available activities at artemis?If so, we mongers just have to go to Austria or Switzerland for FKK trip.
Hessen Bub
10-10-16, 21:16
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-prostitution-law-condoms-sex-workers-bundesrat-vote-approved-date-comes-in-brothels-illegal-a7326056.html Would this new law coming in July remove bareback blowjobs from available activities at artemis?RTTF. And yes.
HB.
MaxSquatter
10-10-16, 21:47
RTTF. And yes.
HB.RTTF? What does that mean? I guess I better get over there before July. Have they begun any of those changes yet? When was the last time you went? Thanks for the reply!
RTTF? What does that mean? I guess I better get over there before July. Have they begun any of those changes yet? When was the last time you went? Thanks for the reply!Think Master HB meant RTFF I. E. Read the Fuking forum, LOL.
Yes you should def. Go there again before July next year unless you don't mind covered BJ.
Hessen Bub
10-10-16, 22:55
Yes. Should have read RTFF.
No changes for BBBJ until July 17.
HB.
WarmStone25
10-11-16, 00:20
Arrived again on 3rd October. Nice outdoors but maybe a little to chilly. I liked the extension to the dining area. I met Gabriela from Poland again, another good session. Ginger from Moldova was next, another good session. I met a girl outside the down stair Kino. I was attracted by her smooth looks, German girl, slim, 1500 mm tall, forgot her name, not from Berlin, gave a good session. All the girls I have had recently have appeared to want to give a good session. All sessions for the standard 60 e. Artemis remains on my list of places to go. It is easy to get to from where I live, less than two hours flight.
Finnish Fucker
10-11-16, 00:40
If so, we mongers just have to go to Austria or Switzerland for FKK trip.Why go? I wouldn't, I'd stay in Germany. I visit the FKK clubs to get a tight pussy wrapped around my cock. I don't fancy too much about blowjobs. Bareback or covered, same for me. CBJ means less risks against STD's for the hookers and for me as well.
Finnish Fucker
10-11-16, 00:43
Best is in the eye of the beholder :-)
What is your favorite? Mine is the NRW region. Lots of clubs; lots of action.Both NRW and Hessen have better clubs than Artemis. But as said Berlin rocks as a city if you put mongering aside. Beats hands down Frankfurt or Dusseldorf.
UltraHappy
10-11-16, 02:00
No changes for BBBJ until July 17.
HB.HB, you keep writing July 17th everywhere, whereas previous reports suggested July 1st as the Dooms Day date. Can you confirm for sure that the new effective date is planned to be July 17th (not July 1st) -- at least based on the current information available?
I would not normally quibble over this two week difference, but I have potential travel plans in the intervening period, so the effective date of this new law looks like it will be quite important to me. Any clarification here would be helpful and appreciated. July 17th would actually be so much better for me than July 1st.
I know that this post isn't Artemis specific, but this particular detail is urgent Code Red important!
HB, you keep writing July 17th everywhere, whereas previous reports suggested July 1st as the Dooms Day date. Can you confirm for sure that the new effective date is planned to be July 17th (not July 1st) -- at least based on the current information available?
HB means with this July 2017. New law will be effective from July 1st, 2017, that mean in 263 days.
UltraHappy
10-11-16, 02:35
HB means with this July 2017. New law will be effective from July 1st, 2017, that mean in 263 days.Oh, now I see what he meant. Damn.
VonderJohn
10-11-16, 03:04
Oh, now I see what he meant. Damn.What are the chances of this law being repealed / challenged / overturned?
I met a girl outside the down stair Kino. I was attracted by her smooth looks, German girl, slim, 1500 mm tall, forgot her name, not from Berlin, gave a good session. Curly hair? Maybe Nena.
Member #4585
10-11-16, 07:40
What are the chances of this law being repealed / challenged / overturned?Low probability as the law has passed both the Bundestag and also the Upper House and is now just needing the President to sign the rules into law.
MaxSquatter
10-11-16, 15:08
If so, we mongers just have to go to Austria or Switzerland for FKK trip.Where in Austria will you go? Have you been to FKK paradise in Graz? I wonder if Austria will follow this German law in the future?
Nooky Ninja
10-11-16, 22:09
Where in Austria will you go? Have you been to FKK paradise in Graz? I wonder if Austria will follow this German law in the future?Ninja wonder if Samsung will rebrand Note 7 as a grenade.
Where in Austria will you go? Have you been to FKK paradise in Graz? I wonder if Austria will follow this German law in the future?Well I never went, but I will give a shot at GT Vienna.
If that is bad, I will go to Globe Zurich.
Only if this law was enforced to BBBJ meaning girls begin to enforce condom with BJ.
I guess next summer will be a good time to add a new forum section regarding Austrian FKK's. Or just change this 'german FKK' section into a 'European FKK' section. Then there wouldn't be a need to have the Dutch clubs down there along with the Lounge either. But who knows, maybe Germany won't change as much anyway. At least for regulars. Or semi regulars.
But untill then, at least we can discuss the bbbj here on the forum again and again and relive the glories of this art in our minds as much as we want. Perhaps the hype puts so much focus on the bbbj that it will feel twice as good throughout the next 9 months. Hehe
Micheal Ramdas
10-13-16, 14:01
Hello folks,
This is my first time visiting an FKK club. I will be visiting Artemis on October 20,2016. I will probably spend around 6-8 hours there and do around 3-4 rounds.
I want to thank you for posting great reviews and extra information. However as the exciting day approaches, I am more and more curious on what I may expect.
I have some questions that will help with my expectations and any answer from you guys will be helpful.
Q1. I was planning to visit the club from 13:00 - 20:00. Hows the line up during those times? I mean how many girls will be there?
Q2. I heard that there was a raid recently. How are the line ups in terms of hotness?
Q3. Price still 60 euros for 30 minutes BJ and FS right?
Q4. Will the front desk or the girls ask me if I visited any FKK before?
Thank you for helping me on this.
DethManRulz
10-13-16, 15:58
Hello folks,
Q4. Will the front desk or the girls ask me if I visited any FKK before?
Thank you for helping me on this.Yes and yes (maybe). At the desk they'll ask just to make sure you know how it all works. The girls might ask for one of two reasons:
1. They want to know if you understand the pricing.
2. They want to take advantage of your naive ways.
Nooky Ninja
10-14-16, 12:53
Q1. I was planning to visit the club from 13:00 - 20:00. Hows the line up during those times? I mean how many girls will be there?Weak-only 10-15 girls during day, starts filling up after 1800. Much better in evenings, as discussed many times in thread.
Q2. I heard that there was a raid recently. How are the line ups in terms of hotness?No effect. Police tried to tell all beautiful girls to leave so only uglies stay, but it did not work. Many choices as always. You will find 5+ for sure.
Q3. Price still 60 euros for 30 minutes BJ and FS right?Yes.
Q4. Will the front desk or the girls ask me if I visited any FKK before?.Front desk ask only so you understand rules and prices. Girls may or may not ask. Not big issue but maybe better to say you have been at other FKKs (example Trump Tower in New York). Just be clear what you expect and agree on costs before going to room and make small talk to see if good vibe.
. Girls may or may not ask. Not big issue but maybe better to say you have been at other FKKs (example Trump Tower in New York). Only russians go there, so that might scare of a few of these eastern european girls...
A few russians once shot one of the bouncers at Artemis (just with air, but he got a deep wound), so that can mean bad rep.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/trump-russian-mobster-tokhtakhounov-miss-universe-moscow
Weak-only 10-15 girls during day, starts filling up after 1800.Objection, Your Honour! Things have changed once again. Some more girls during day time.
SuppenHuhn
10-14-16, 23:10
At NookyNinja.
10-15 girls when the club opens.
3 o'clock maybe 30 women.
6 o'clock about 50 girls or more.
Nooky Ninja
10-15-16, 07:34
Objection, Your Honour! Things have changed once again. Some more girls during day time.Professor Pharisaer, Super Suppenhuhn and all numbers dudes. Ninja was only trying to keep things simple. Numbers float around even by the different days of the week (Sun-Tues, even Wed slower during day, etc.). Point is while you can always find chemistry etc anytime, odds, and choices increase (like factor of 2-4) starting at about 1800, and certainly after 2000 when 95% of evening shift has arrived.
If you have favs, and they are on day shift, of course, even better. Much more chill scene, less smoke, better music. For someone who has only limited time to visit, if possible, scheduling around early evening when all are in, fresh, and place not overcrowded is optimal.
BlackUnknown
10-16-16, 01:28
Hi all,
I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.
Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.
After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.
Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.
So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.
Thanks in advance.
Photographe
10-16-16, 08:22
BlackUnknown,
One of the most persuasive arguments in favor of legalized and regulated prostitution is the emphasis placed on safety and regular testing. I should think that no one who owns and operates an FKK wants to run the risk of losing everything because they are being lax with testing and then nasty stuff starts spreading to the customers. Of course there might always be exceptions for girls that are doing something they shouldn't, but if you are using protection it seems pretty safe. You could even ask for a condom during the BJ if you prefer (a glimpse of what's to come next year, I suppose).
Bottom line I think you are just as safe if not more so going with girls at FKK clubs as you are going with random women you meet out in the world. Especially if they are the type to have sex after just meeting.
Hessen Bub
10-16-16, 10:07
Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? If you practice safer sex the risk of catching HIV in a FKK club is close to zero.
HB.
DethManRulz
10-16-16, 14:36
Hi all,
I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.
Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.
After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.
Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.
So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.
Thanks in advance.You're much more likely to catch other STD's. But not HIV. It's actually pretty hard to catch HIV with safe sex.
WarmStone25
10-16-16, 19:24
Curly hair? Maybe Nena.I remember straight hair, young face. I saw her first as I walked through the sliding doors and passed the bar. She sat with a very erect posture and looked straight ahead. That with her smooth looks made me notice her. I got the feeling that maybe she was a little inexperienced in the room or perhaps just new to Artemis. The name sounds familiar though. I will return on the 24th October and will look for her then.
Hi all,
I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.
Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.
After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.
Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.
Thanks in advance.It is correct the girls are regularly tested in Artemis. That doesn't provide much protection against STI's as there is always the risk that the guy who she gave BBBJ to immediately before you was infected, so when she gives you the same, so is she and now you are. But the chances of this happening are very very slim indeed. You'd need to be incredibly unlucky. But if you get STD you can get antibiotics to cure chlamydia. Gonorrhoea is treatable by antibiotics or at least it was. It is now becoming very resistant to such drugs and there are strains in the US an in Europe which fight off the drugs. But your concern is about HIV and as has been said by several members already your risk if you practice safe sex is VERY low indeed.
I had panic about this 3 years ago when I had a fantastic two weeks in Thailand and had a lot of sex. The girls there often use very poor quality condoms and on 5 occasions they broke whilst I was having sex. I was very concerned because this effectively amounted to having unprotected sex with Thai sex workers. Positively dangerous, and on my part. Stupid. But I got checked out and was absolutely fine. The risk is still low for the person who is penetrating. Still foolish of me.
Your risk of this in an FKK is much lower. Girls tend to use very heavyweight good quality condoms which are actually a nuisance as they don't feel too good sometimes and are nowhere near as good as Sagami condoms from the Far East but they are very safe and I've only ever had one break in an FKK with a girl in Artemis by way of coincidence but I was really going at it hard in doggy.
So all in all, your risk of HIV is very low. It is not 100% safe. In which case if you are that concerned about it, continue to have HJs. Nothing wrong with that and you are guaranteed not to get HIV. You still get to touch some beautiful girls, enjoy the views in the club, and can do so with virtually no risks at all. A happy safe mind is better than the horrible worry if you make mistakes.
Hi all,
I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.
Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.
After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.
Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.
So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.
Thanks in advance.Have you considered this lifestyle is not for you? Only handjobs and kisses wtf!
So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.
Thanks in advance.Having multiple sexual partners will always increase the chance of getting STDs. And frequenting places such as Artemis will increase the chance substantially (due to girls having sex with many punters during her workday). However. Use of condom (greatly reduces chances of getting STDs) and biweekly checks of the girls (STD "epidemy" is easier to detect and contain) will decrease risk of STD greatly. In fact I would say that having safe sex in Artemis is much safer that with some promiscuous girl in your office or that you meet in a night club. Because THAT girl only goes to her doctor when the symptoms are obvious or in pain.
Ironically it seems that you are not scared about kissing despite kissing being excellent transmitter method of infections (normal ones and couple of STDs too).
So relax. If you want safest possible experience (except staying at home and avoiding having sex) that is also involves more than HJ, use condom always (BJ included) and avoid kissing.
Visiting Artemis on Thursday night (no report due to no new experiences) I was told by a girl that Jenna was back in Artemis couple of days and then she left.
BlackUnknown
10-17-16, 19:53
Thanks all for you answers.
It is correct the girls are regularly tested in Artemis. That doesn't provide much protection against STI's as there is always the risk that the guy who she gave BBBJ to immediately before you was infected, so when she gives you the same, so is she and now you are. But the chances of this happening are very very slim indeed. You'd need to be incredibly unlucky. But if you get STD you can get antibiotics to cure chlamydia. Gonorrhoea is treatable by antibiotics or at least it was. It is now becoming very resistant to such drugs and there are strains in the US an in Europe which fight off the drugs. But your concern is about HIV and as has been said by several members already your risk if you practice safe sex is VERY low indeed.
I had panic about this 3 years ago when I had a fantastic two weeks in Thailand and had a lot of sex. The girls there often use very poor quality condoms and on 5 occasions they broke whilst I was having sex. I was very concerned because this effectively amounted to having unprotected sex with Thai sex workers. Positively dangerous, and on my part.Thanks for your detailed answer. As you said, there's always a risk of breaking a condom, that's why I have to think twice before taking any action.
By the way, I think there's a medicine you can take within 72 of having sex, which is called PEP (Post-exposure prophylaxis). Problem that it's not possible to buy it from a pharmacy as far as I understand.
Have you considered this lifestyle is not for you? Only handjobs and kisses wtf!As I said, I enjoyed visiting the clubs before, but my worries are disturbing that now. I think it's not so weird to worry about my health, especially when we're taking about something dangerous as HIV.
DethManRulz
10-17-16, 20:23
Have you considered this lifestyle is not for you? Only handjobs and kisses wtf!Well, to each their own. There are no rules in this regard.
Hi all,
I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.
Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.
After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.
Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.
So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.
Thanks in advance.That's a question for your doctor or just google the probability of being protected while using condoms, but I doubt you'll find any condom engineers or product managers here.
Well, to each their own. There are no rules in this regard.Yes true no rules, but it's like renting a Ferrari, and only doing 20 mph in first gear.
Hessen Bub
10-17-16, 22:15
Yes true no rules, but it's like renting a Ferrari, and only doing 20 mph in first gear.Ah like most Americans do when they come to Germany, rent a fast car and get scared on the autobahn. (just kidding).
HB.
. (just kidding).No you didn't.
Member #4469
10-18-16, 00:30
Are there any new younger talents at the big A?! Especially with enhanced tits...
Micheal Ramdas
10-18-16, 01:59
Weak-only 10-15 girls during day, starts filling up after 1800. Much better in evenings, as discussed many times in thread.
No effect. Police tried to tell all beautiful girls to leave so only uglies stay, but it did not work. Many choices as always. You will find 5+ for sure.
Yes.
Front desk ask only so you understand rules and prices. Girls may or may not ask. Not big issue but maybe better to say you have been at other FKKs (example Trump Tower in New York). Just be clear what you expect and agree on costs before going to room and make small talk to see if good vibe.Thank you nooky and other members for answering my questions. Also any useful tips would be welcome.
Also, I came across some google reviews talking about stabbing and theft at that location. How safe is this place?
Thanks all for you answers.
By the way, I think there's a medicine you can take within 72 of having sex, which is called PEP (Post-exposure prophylaxis). Problem that it's not possible to buy it from a pharmacy as far as I understand.
You are correct that you can vastly reduce a risk of HIV infection by taking a course of PEP and other drugs. None of which are available from a general pharmacy and will all need either prescription following consultation with a physician. Not even in Thailand can you buy these drugs over the counter.
PEP is not a wonder pill taken inside 72 hours. It is a course of tablets.
There is an STD forum on ISG and this discussion should be taken there rather than here if it develops beyond this post. You've raised it in relation to HIV risk in FKK clubs. The advice rendered by members already is not wrong. Your risks if you practice safe sex are very low. Moreover, you are not wrong not to be concerned. Members here are not telling you there is no risk. But that you need not worry as much as you appear to be if you practice safe sex. Yes a condom can split and as I said in previous post I've been there. But in FKK it is less common unless you have a a particularly large dick (not me. I wish!) and break condoms a lot due to sustained or "heavy" sex.
I think if you understood more about the low risk (based on safe sex) and also the effectiveness of PEP you would worry even less. I am therefore setting out some basic information though you should study it more fully if you are really that worried. The more you study the more you are likely to see that the advice given on here that safe sex is a very effective safeguard is very accurate.
You should know that in addition to PEP there are drugs you can take to lower your changes of contracting HIV at all. In PrEP studies, HIV negative people who are at high risk, take antiretroviral medication daily to try to lower their chances of becoming infected with HIV if they are exposed to it. Studies (July 2011) indicate that this might be 73% effective in preventing HIV in sero-discordant partners.
Post-exposure Prophylaxis (the PEP you refer to) is short-term antiretroviral treatment to reduce the likelihood of HIV infection after potential exposure, either occupationally or through sexual intercourse.
A study of pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), (the English PROUD study. Google it) demonstrated the highest effectiveness yet seen for this method of HIV prevention.
The effectiveness was 86%; for every 20 infections that might have occurred in participants, 17 were stopped by PEP. So it is highly effective. However you should know that the PEP is also VERY invasive and there are many side effects which very frequently occur so much so to prevent people taking the whole course. As you say, getting hold of these drugs is also NOT easy and you would need to visit a doctor, explain, satisfy him / her that you are very much at risk and why, and have them prescribe these drugs. Saying you've been to an FKK club will NOT satisfy those requirements. Saying you had unprotected sexual intercourse with a sex worker, or that a condom broke would be likely to get you prescribed. The costs of these drugs is also very expensive unless the state are paying but of course no price is too expensive to prevent HIV infection.
All in all. Given your concerns, I'd say either stay away from FKKs or similar facilities where a mix of stunning girls, desire, and maybe alcohol can combine to make you lose inhibitions and your safeguards, or otherwise, do as you say. Limit your risk by ensuring that every sexual encounter is safe. No kissing (correctly mentioned here by one other respondent) no oral WO condom and no sex WO (very rare in Fkks unless you press for and pay for it (my nick! Nothing wrong with attending, loving the view and the social bit and getting a covered blow job or uncovered HJ.
You probably have a greater risk of being hit by a car on the way to an FKK than of contacting HIV in one.
Whatever you decide. Enjoy. You're only here once.
Cheers.
Hessen Bub
10-18-16, 07:02
Also, I came across some google reviews talking about stabbing and theft at that location. How safe is this place?Very safe. No need to worry.
HB.
Nooky Ninja
10-18-16, 11:57
You are correct that you can vastly reduce a risk of HIV infection by taking a course of PEP and other drugs. None of which are available from a general pharmacy and will all need either prescription following consultation with a physician. Whatever you decide. Enjoy. You're only here once. Very helpful and well written, made ROD. Thanks.
At MichaelRamdas. Internet search full of BS. Especially unproven rumours. Like HB say, not a problem.
BlackUnknown
10-18-16, 17:14
You are correct that you can vastly reduce a risk of HIV infection by taking a course of PEP and other drugs. None of which are available from a general pharmacy and will all need either prescription following consultation with a physician. Not even in Thailand can you buy these drugs over the counter.
PEP is not a wonder pill taken inside 72 hours. It is a course of tablets.
There is an STD forum on ISG and this discussion should be taken there rather than here if it develops beyond this post. You've raised it in relation to HIV risk in FKK clubs. The advice rendered by members already is not wrong. Your risks if you practice safe sex are very low. Moreover, you are not wrong not to be concerned. Members here are not telling you there is no risk. But that you need not worry as much as you appear to be if you practice safe sex. Yes a condom can split and as I said in previous post I've been there. But in FKK it is less common unless you have a a particularly large dick (not me. I wish!) and break condoms a lot due to sustained or "heavy" sex.
I think if you understood more about the low risk (based on safe sex) and also the effectiveness of PEP you would worry even less. I am therefore setting out some basic information though you should study it more fully if you are really that worried. The more you study the more you are likely to see that the advice given on here that safe sex is a very effective safeguard is very accurate..Thanks again for your answer. I liked what you said at the end that it's more likely to be hit by a car than catching HIV!
I think it's worth the small risk from time to another.
ExpatLover
10-18-16, 23:06
Having multiple sexual partners will always increase the chance of getting STDs. And frequenting places such as Artemis will increase the chance substantially (due to girls having sex with many punters during her workday). However. Use of condom (greatly reduces chances of getting STDs) and biweekly checks of the girls (STD "epidemy" is easier to detect and contain) will decrease risk of STD greatly. In fact I would say that having safe sex in Artemis is much safer that with some promiscuous girl in your office or that you meet in a night club. Because THAT girl only goes to her doctor when the symptoms are obvious or in pain.
Ironically it seems that you are not scared about kissing despite kissing being excellent transmitter method of infections (normal ones and couple of STDs too).
So relax. If you want safest possible experience (except staying at home and avoiding having sex) that is also involves more than HJ, use condom always (BJ included) and avoid kissing.I asked many girls that I know well if they do really medical checks and their answer is obviously no which is true for all FKK. I have a very close friend who is doctor and what I conclude on this topic from my side is that to catch HIV you need to receive a significant amount of infected, blood mostly (but can be sperm or vaginal fluid too). To be practical if you kiss a girl infected with HIV and you have no problem in your mouth neither she, the risk is 0, if you practice oral sex with the same girl and you have no problem in your mouth (0 bleeding when washing your teeth) 0 risk. Better no to wash your teeth 1 hour before a session to reduce the risks. Receiving a BJ if your dick has no skin issues 0 risk, all the rest seems to be at risk. I went to a full medical checks in a big hospital and met a doctor specialized in HIV infection and other MST and he told me that to be safe with sex workers his recommendations is no kiss, no uncovered BJ, no oral sex but in that case why should I go for P6.
ExpatLover
10-18-16, 23:19
Having multiple sexual partners will always increase the chance of getting STDs. And frequenting places such as Artemis will increase the chance substantially (due to girls having sex with many punters during her workday). However. Use of condom (greatly reduces chances of getting STDs) and biweekly checks of the girls (STD "epidemy" is easier to detect and contain) will decrease risk of STD greatly. In fact I would say that having safe sex in Artemis is much safer that with some promiscuous girl in your office or that you meet in a night club. Because THAT girl only goes to her doctor when the symptoms are obvious or in pain.
Ironically it seems that you are not scared about kissing despite kissing being excellent transmitter method of infections (normal ones and couple of STDs too).
So relax. If you want safest possible experience (except staying at home and avoiding having sex) that is also involves more than HJ, use condom always (BJ included) and avoid kissing.I don't believe in this bi-weekly medical check, when you are at the reception of a FKK and a new girl is joining the club she will provide her ID card but never she will give a medical check report. Also having sex with a girls who has 10 or more different partners every day (coming from every where in the world) can for me not be at lower risk that with the girl from your office.
Thank you nooky and other members for answering my questions. Also any useful tips would be welcome.
Also, I came across some google reviews talking about stabbing and theft at that location. How safe is this place?There was stabbing near or in Westkreuz?
DethManRulz
10-19-16, 14:46
I don't believe in this bi-weekly medical check, when you are at the reception of a FKK and a new girl is joining the club she will provide her ID card but never she will give a medical check report. Also having sex with a girls who has 10 or more different partners every day (coming from every where in the world) can for me not be at lower risk that with the girl from your office.
If someone can find me a person who actually believes the girls get checked regularly, and that that testing has much impact... Then I have a piece of land to sell you in Florida. Please get back to me.
Blue Swede
10-19-16, 19:01
If someone can find me a person who actually believes the girls get checked regularly, and that that testing has much impact... Then I have a piece of land to sell you in Florida. Please get back to me."Something" happens on a regular basis anyway. At my every visits, I noticed that the girls are horded up to the office on second floor and later they come back with a band aid on the shoulder.
Micheal Ramdas
10-19-16, 20:03
There was stabbing near or in Westkreuz?Hello Mr Ho,
When you google FKK Artemis and click on the google reviews you will find this. From some guy name gregory chandler.
Gregory Chandler.
In the last week.
My research shows that this is a dangerous place with lots of criminal activity. The Berlin police raided Artemis in April 2016. The news reports are that the massive April 2016 raid had about 1,000 police officers. (Internet search: Artemis-Berlin April 2016 police raid) If you want to avoid run-ins with the police, stay away. People have been robbed at Artemis. Shootings and stabbings have taken place at Artemis. The staff and women are rude. I am told that the staff and women at Artemis are intentionally rude. The comments below also inform about rude service or no service at Artemis. There is the illegal sex trafficking of women at Artemis. The Berlin Hell's Angels motorcycle gang is active in the criminal affairs of Artemis. Among other matters, the police were investigating a murder with an alleged Artemis and Hell Angels connection. The women working at Artemis cheat men out of money. The managers are lazy, stupid, incompetent, and have no control over the staff and women. Some of these managers were jailed by the Berlin police in April 2016. I note the comment below by Remy Martin: "I hope this club shuts down and the owner gets cancer. " WOW! That must be the world's worst review of a bad business. The business should be given less than zero stars. Stay away.
Hessen Bub
10-19-16, 21:06
"Something" happens on a regular basis anyway. At my every visits, I noticed that the girls are horded up to the office on second floor and later they come back with a band aid on the shoulder.Yeah. They regularly have to renew the batteries in the chip implants.
HB.
Thanks for the answer. That's not my Kiara unfortunately.Probably not, that Kiara is filtering men based on who is an easy prey. Hence, if she thinks you are hard work and not easy money, she will not go with you. She is a true tourist trap. A beautiful plastic tourist trap, but still a waste of money. Taking her means you part with art least 120 euro and get very little in return, including an argument for covered BJ.
PussyLiccker
10-20-16, 07:28
get very little in return, Sounds like my last visit to Art. LOL.
Nooky Ninja
10-20-16, 19:52
Hello Mr Ho,Chandler not Raymond. Complete nonsense, twisting info not understood. Maybe he had a bad time. Just RTFF.
Guys this is not a detailed trip report but just a short summary, observation. Was in Artemis on the 11th of October Tuesday what a waste of a visit. Firstly everything is higher in price right from entry to half an hour sessions when compared to the Hessen Clubs. The Girls don't kiss (Couple of them bluntly said this, that you are not my boyfriend) They do not want to let you do DATY. One girl who got ready to Kiss said she will kiss only if I assure her a one hour session. Didn't want to directly jump onto a hour session what if I don't perform for one hour hence declined. The Girls are also rude in their talk. Just did one German Blonde Girl who would sit by the Bar, don't have the name. But compared to my Sharks visit Artemis was a shocker of a place.
Member #4469
10-21-16, 15:42
Guys this is not a detailed trip report but just a short summary, observation. Was in Artemis on the 11th of October Tuesday what a waste of a visit. Firstly everything is higher in price right from entry to half an hour sessions when compared to the Hessen Clubs. The Girls don't kiss (Couple of them bluntly said this, that you are not my boyfriend) They do not want to let you do DATY. One girl who got ready to Kiss said she will kiss only if I assure her a one hour session. Didn't want to directly jump onto a hour session what if I don't perform for one hour hence declined. The Girls are also rude in their talk. Just did one German Blonde Girl who would sit by the Bar, don't have the name. But compared to my Sharks visit Artemis was a shocker of a place.Hi Jooeey,
First of all, sorry you had a awful time at Artemis. I myself travel to Berlin 5-7 times a year approximately 2-3 days each time and of course also visit Artemis on most of these days. So I'm not a regular but most of the girls recognize me from my previous visits. It happens on rare occasions that girls don't want to kiss but mostly no problem, DATY have I never had any girl decline and the rude talk you mention, very rare in my opinion.
I have never visit Sharks but have been to Oase and Palace a few times in Frankfurt and all of these things you mentioning in your report happened to me in those clubs, I think this is because I was not a familiar face so the girls thought of me as an easy prey! This is probably what happened to you at Artemis, I don't defend the behavior of the girls but simply trying to explain it.
Yes the entrance is higher at Artemis compared to the Hessen clubs and of course we all want the entrance to be as cheap as possible, but with Oase, Sharks and World you have a expensive roundtrip with taxi to think about if you live in Frankfurt, and I don't like public transportation so train and busses is not an option for me.
But each to their own I guess.
Expanding my horizons and will be in Berlin for the first time next week. Excited to check out the scene. I think Artemis is a must right? Hoping for a good experience. Will report.
Hessen Bub
10-21-16, 18:18
Was in Artemis on the 11th of October Tuesday what a waste of a visit. The Girls are also rude in their talk. Just did one German Blonde Girl who would sit by the Bar, don't have the name. But compared to my Sharks visit Artemis was a shocker of a place.Sorry to hear you had such a bad time. Artemis is not my favorite club, on my last visits to Berlin I skipped it and saved my money and juice for the Hessen or NRW clubs.
HB.
BlackUnknown
10-21-16, 18:49
Guys this is not a detailed trip report but just a short summary, observation. Was in Artemis on the 11th of October Tuesday what a waste of a visit. Firstly everything is higher in price right from entry to half an hour sessions when compared to the Hessen Clubs. The Girls don't kiss (Couple of them bluntly said this, that you are not my boyfriend) They do not want to let you do DATY. One girl who got ready to Kiss said she will kiss only if I assure her a one hour session. Didn't want to directly jump onto a hour session what if I don't perform for one hour hence declined. The Girls are also rude in their talk. Just did one German Blonde Girl who would sit by the Bar, don't have the name. But compared to my Sharks visit Artemis was a shocker of a place.I visited Artemis only once, and went with two girls.
One of them was exactly what you're describing: refusing to kiss, rude, and she wanted extra money for anything.
The second one was much better actually, and agreed to do all I wanted for the basic price.
So I think it depends on your luck.
Artemis is not my favorite club, on my last visits to Berlin I skipped it and saved my money and juice for the Hessen or NRW clubs.
HB.What is/are your preferred club/s in NRW? Just curious. Thanks.
Hessen Bub
10-21-16, 19:56
If I go to NRW it is a combination of GT and LR on the same day. Haven't been to Samya for ages and didn't like Magnum that much. Acapulco years ago was quite good. Can't say anything about VV or PHG, same thing, haven't been for years.
HB.
If I go to NRW it is a combination of GT and LR on the same day. Haven't been to Samya for ages and didn't like Magnum that much. Acapulco years ago was quite good. Can't say anything about VV or PHG, same thing, haven't been for years.
HB.I also, when in NRW, stick mainly to the GT / LR combination tour: Funny, eh?
And now back to our regular scheduled programme: Artemis in Berlin!
Finnish Fucker
10-21-16, 22:27
The Girls don't kiss (Couple of them bluntly said this, that you are not my boyfriend) They do not want to let you do DATY. One girl who got ready to Kiss said she will kiss only if I assure her a one hour session. Didn't want to directly jump onto a hour session what if I don't perform for one hour hence declined. The Girls are also rude in their talk. Just did one German Blonde Girl who would sit by the Bar, don't have the name. But compared to my Sharks visit Artemis was a shocker of a place.Many hookers don't like to kiss. They do it if you pay extra. I never do, I don't need the GFE play from a prostitute. Many hookers also don't like you to lick or touch their pussy. It's not only Artemis issue, same in all FKK places. I have had nice sessions in Artemis and both good and crap fucks at Sharks. It is not the club that makes the difference, same kind of romanian WG's all over Germany. This hobby is a hit and miss game.
Hessen Bub
10-21-16, 23:01
It is not the club that makes the difference, same kind of romanian WG's all over Germany. This hobby is a hit and miss game.That's not quite true. There's a huge difference re service levels between some clubs. Artemis and Palace are not the top service clubs for standard pricing.
HB.
That's not quite true. There's a huge difference re service levels between some clubs. Artemis and Palace are not the top service clubs for standard pricing.
HB.Correct, I would add both are at the bottom level (for standard price). But for long sessions (like 2 hours with some extras) I had outstanding sessions at Palace, unbelievable! I needed the ambulance after. Worth every cent.
PussyLiccker
10-22-16, 00:12
Many hookers don't like to kiss. They do it if you pay extra. I never do, I don't need the GFE play from a prostitute. Pretty much all the girls on my recent reports (various clubs, not Art) kissed. No extra. All the girls did that in a standard session, but I avoid clubs that either odds of kissing were low or chances of extras asked is high. So, based on various club visits, I know some club culture is better for odds of service over others. I rather choose a girl from a club where odds are high for service and low chances of rip-offs. It's a balance of game of looks and services on the whole. Ideal club would be high in looks and services.
Similar to Jooey, I require certain services to get me going, and kissing is one of them. I understand we all don't share the same service requirements, but for some of us it's important to find girls in clubs that meet the service aspects that are sought after.
I myself travel to Berlin 5-7 times a year approximately 2-3 days each time and of course also visit Artemis on most of these days. So I'm not a regular but most of the girls recognize me from my previous visits. It happens on rare occasions that girls don't want to kiss but mostly no problem, DATY have I never had any girl decline and the rude talk you mention, very rare in my opinion.
I have never visit Sharks but have been to Oase and Palace a few times in Frankfurt and all of these things you mentioning in your report happened to me in those clubs, I think this is because I was not a familiar face so the girls thought of me as an easy prey! This is probably what happened to you at Artemis, I don't defend the behavior of the girls but simply trying to explain it.
I don't follow the logic. If I visit a club and my service stats are low, I will question the avg service level of the club. Also, I will rethink to visiting that club again. If you've visited enough clubs, your rationale will not be limited to the clubs you point out. There are many clubs in De, and club cultures will be different due to type of girls working, management, and clientele, etc.
Member #4469
10-22-16, 04:22
I don't follow the logic. If I visit a club and my service stats are low, I will question the avg service level of the club. Also, I will rethink to visiting that club again. If you've visited enough clubs, your rationale will not be limited to the clubs you point out. There are many clubs in De, and club cultures will be different due to type of girls working, management, and clientele, etc.Actually the point of my post is that if you are a regular or at least a familiar face at the club you are more likely to receive better service from the girls! This is probably the norm whatever club you are visiting.
Hessen Bub
10-22-16, 07:59
But for long sessions (like 2 hours with some extras) I had outstanding sessions at Palace, unbelievable! I needed the ambulance after. Worth every cent.At a rate of 300€plus /2 h you will find great service at every club.
HB.
Finnish Fucker
10-22-16, 08:33
That's not quite true. There's a huge difference re service levels between some clubs. Artemis and Palace are not the top service clubs for standard pricing.
HB.This is true. But my point was that there are WG's in ALL clubs who give good service with basic 50/60 Euro session.
Maybe the club and it's atmosphere / management hardens the girls differently in various places and so the end result is like this with variable service levels.
Finnish Fucker
10-22-16, 10:10
Similar to Jooey, I require certain services to get me going, and kissing is one of them. I understand we all don't share the same service requirements, but for some of us it's important to find girls in clubs that meet the service aspects that are sought after.
I understand your point.
I am happy just to pay to be fucked by nice tight bodies and play with big natural tits - without kissing the girls. I don't fancy the idea of kissing a hooker who has sucked cocks all day long and probably had CIM. Puts a damper on my mood, LOL.
This hobby is a hit and miss game.That is a very fair statement to summarise "This Hobby is indeed a hit and a miss game". You win some you lose sum.
Member #4585
10-22-16, 10:55
I don't fancy the idea of kissing a hooker who has sucked cocks all day long and probably had CIM. Puts a damper on my mood, LOL.Over thinking the whole situation puts a dampener on the overall hobby.
Yesterday it was quite busy in Artemis from 7 pm On, earlier than normal I think. A lot of very nice girls, saw some new faces.
Normally I have good experiences with the girls services in Artemis. Yesterday I had the biggest miss since ever: I don, t remember her name, she told me she was Turkish, but born in Berlin, long darkblond hair, no fake tits. BBJ was more HJ than BJ and she was very pushy and indifferent. So during session I changed my intention and ended without extras so that this bad session cost me only 60,- euros. I regretted more having missed my first shot. Very strange because such bad session never happended to me in ART.
Later second session with a romanian girl was a pleasure.
this bad session cost me only 60,- euros. Sorry for bad session Sixty9 but THIS shows the strength of the FKK and Artemis experience. If something is crap one can limit the damage, calm down, get into a better mood and then check out the other girls! In many other mongering situations one is simply stuck, your are too heavily invested money wise and then it can ruin your evening.
I even decided on not to come with a girl at Artemis once. She was not so good and had almost a bad attitude in our already started sessions in the semi-public area. She pushed for CIM and I decided to justb play with her and let her try her best. With the intention of never coming. 60 down is not THAT much. I saw it as a sexy warm up for the next session.
Yesterday it was quite busy in Artemis from 7 pm On, earlier than normal I think. A lot of very nice girls, saw some new faces.
Normally I have good experiences with the girls services in Artemis. Yesterday I had the biggest miss since ever: I don, t remember her name, she told me she was Turkish, but born in Berlin, long darkblond hair, no fake tits. BBJ was more HJ than BJ and she was very pushy and indifferent. So during session I changed my intention and ended without extras so that this bad session cost me only 60,- euros. I regretted more having missed my first shot. Very strange because such bad session never happended to me in ART.
Later second session with a romanian girl was a pleasure.Was this Turkish descent girl that you talk about with Specs?
Hessen Bub
10-22-16, 12:54
Sorry for bad session Sixty9 but THIS shows the strength of the FKK and Artemis experience. If something is crap one can limit the damage, calm down, get into a better mood and then check out the other girls! In many other mongering situations one is simply stuck, your are too heavily invested money wise and then it can ruin your evening.Just a quick note: This is the case for every FKK or Saunaclub in DACH, E or NL.
HB.
Finnish Fucker
10-22-16, 13:35
Over thinking the whole situation puts a dampener on the overall hobby.Yes it is best not to think too much what the WG has been doing before your session. If the girls would be more initiative with kissing then I would propably go with the flow but since they are mostly reluctant I just don't bother. For me the intercourse in the main event. But each to his own, I am not here to judge what punters should do. Many guys prefer BBBJ, I take CBJ because of the constant NGU that I get from these girls. Their mouths are just a nest of germs. Just personal preference like many other moves we make inside FKK's.
I think punters should understand that every girl does not do all the stuff in a basic 50 Euro session. And if someone tells you rudely that they do not kiss, move on and find another one who does. Once in Oase I asked busty Carla in the room to put some more eroticism in the game since her every move was like a robot's. She stopped cleaning my cock with a wet wipe, looked at me and said:"Eroticism belongs to my boyfriend, this is just work!" I laughed and still managed to have a good ride from her. That sentence made me realize what to expect from a FKK working girl in the future.
.... Very strange because such bad session never happended to me in ARTEMIS..... Well then you have been very lucky in the past dude. A shitty session once in a while (at standard rate which is a flip the coin almost always) is ok for everyone to keep their feet on the ground and fresh glass of water of reality in face. Never mind.
Was this Turkish descent girl that you talk about with Specs?No, no specs.
The overall impression of her: not thick, not thin. But not very sporty body with light signs of cellulite in the legs.
SuppenHuhn
10-22-16, 14:59
That's not quite true. There's a huge difference re service levels between some clubs. Artemis and Palace are not the top service clubs for standard pricing.
HB.This is not right. In my opinion the service level in Artemis for 60 € was / is better than in most other clubs. Usually you have blowjob, sex, licking and maybe kissing.
OK there are some changes after the raid and new girls from other clubs try to sale extras for kissing and licking for example. We must wait the development for the future.
The service level in the Hessenclubs is lower than in Berlin. I know this opinion from girls in the Hamburg-Clubs also.
At HB.
We know that Artemis is not your club. You can repeat and repeat. Its because of not so many Romanian girls.
Artemis has a pretty large service range from good to bad. So unless you have been there many times, it really is about luck. Somehow the Romanian group there tends to give the worst service because of their internal rules though. Only very few Romanian exceptions.
Hessen Bub
10-23-16, 16:18
This is not right. In my opinion the service level in Artemis for 60 was / is better than in most other clubs. Usually you have blowjob, sex, licking and maybe kissing.
At HB.
We know that Artemis is not your club. You can repeat and repeat. Its because of not so many Romanian girls.It is not because of less Romanian girls. It is because of too many old siliconed tattooed pro hookers. Same as Palace. You can repeat and repeat, but stating that Artemis service levels are better than most other clubs is ridiculous.
HB.
It is not because of less Romanian girls. It is because of too many old siliconed tattooed pro hookers. Same as Palace. You can repeat and repeat, but stating that Artemis service levels are better than most other clubs is ridiculous.+1.
Was last time some years ago at Artemis. Line up and service level similar like Palace and below the other big Frankfurt clubs. Low service level at Artemis has almost nothing to do with girls nationality but with client structure (many tourists) and that Artemis has no competition through other clubs.
+1.
Was last time some years ago at Artemis. Line up and service level similar like Palace and below the other big Frankfurt clubs. Low service level at Artemis has almost nothing to do with girls nationality but with client structure (many tourists) and that Artemis has no competition through other clubs.Wrong! At Artemis as opposed to some other clubs, larger nationalities such as especially the Romanians mean that they have formed stricter group rules. Worse service for 60 e, or more upsell. Nationalities with fewer girls give much better service. A lot of Romanians therefore leave Artemis after awhile. Some of the old hags in the Romanian group are probably behind this and as I have heard those old hags actually gives impeccable service. Too bad their looks are 2-3, they just want to screw over the pretty girls.
Wrong! At Artemis as opposed to some other clubs, larger nationalities such as especially the romanians mean that they have formed stricter group rules. Worse service for 60 e, or more upsell. Nationalities with fewer girls give much better service.Wow yep I can see this at Palace, many nationalities in few numbers and most of them at a 50 euro session lowest level.
Stay away from Jayne, older German girl, your normal style cheater who can't read the clock. If you get my point.
Wow yep I can see this at Palace, many nationalities in few numbers and most of them at a 50 euro session lowest level.Palace is not Artemis.
PussyLiccker
10-23-16, 20:21
Yes it is best not to think too much what the WG has been doing before your session. If the girls would be more initiative with kissing then I would propably go with the flow but since they are mostly reluctant I just don't bother. For me the intercourse in the main event. But each to his own, I am not here to judge what punters should do. Many guys prefer BBBJ, I take CBJ because of the constant NGU that I get from these girls. Their mouths are just a nest of germs. Just personal preference like many other moves we make inside FKK's.
I think punters should understand that every girl does not do all the stuff in a basic 50 Euro session. And if someone tells you rudely that they do not kiss, move on and find another one who does. Once in Oase I asked busty Carla in the room to put some more eroticism in the game since her every move was like a robot's. She stopped cleaning my cock with a wet wipe, looked at me and said:"Eroticism belongs to my boyfriend, this is just work!" I laughed and still managed to have a good ride from her. That sentence made me realize what to expect from a FKK working girl in the future.I think our views are different. There are providers that are more capable over others. Believe me, I've run into plenty of them. They can be a lot fun. And then you got more jaded pros. Chances are great to run into them at places like Art. Art is one of those clubs you meet those that of the higher end of the spectrum when it comes to pro-ness. Well, at least this is how I describe some girls as especiallly the ones that has been in the industry long enough, and lost that youthful spark. Others may have a different way of seeing thing, but this depends on girl character / personality types, and how we define services can have some variance.
Since kissing, etc. Is part of what excites some punters in sessions. I have met plenty of what I describe as "capable" girls that do provide some passion into it, but not all girls are capable. It all depends on the girl (and also to some degree clientel). Also, club culture influence on it. If there are more clientel with higher expectations and more in what is saught after in a session, and with provider competition in clubs to make the money, it will raise the standards in service with more offering by more and more girls.
Usually, a lot of the demanding customers are moving to smaller clubs as greater tourists show up. This does drive service levels down. I suggest many of yall that has not explored much in De, look into some clubs that has good reputation of service, and see what makes them particularly of draw some punters.
In the end all depends on preference of the punter. If your expectations are fullfilled by the 99% of pros in Artemis, nothing complain about.
Here is a pure example of what I consider a real pro:
Probably not, that Kiara is filtering men based on who is an easy prey. Hence, if she thinks you are hard work and not easy money, she will not go with you. She is a true tourist trap. A beautiful plastic tourist trap, but still a waste of money. Taking her means you part with art least 120 euro and get very little in return, including an argument for covered BJ.
Palace is not Artemis.Ups I didn't know that your theory about national group pressure at FKK clubs works (only) at Artemis and doesn't work at Palace or is it the other way around. LOL.
Finnish Fucker
10-23-16, 21:02
I think punters should understand that every girl does not do all the stuff in a basic 50 Euro session. Let me refrase. My purpose was to write "Not every girl will do all the basic stuff in 50 euro session".
I think our views are different. There are providers that are more capable over others. Our views does not differ that much. Surely there are big differences in the girls behaviour and capability. I know this very well since I have experienced many good and bad sessions over the years.
I am not very demanding in the room regarding service. I don't need to kiss, I am happy with CBJ. I enjoy best girls who have good fucking techniques, especially CG and RCG, combined with nice body and tits of course. And some fuck durability from the hookers since I don't come in a minute.
Hessen Bub
10-23-16, 21:04
Nationalities with fewer girls give much better service. Aha. So in a club with 60 Romanians, 10 Bulgarians, 5 Polish and 2 Germans the German girls would give the best service, followed by the Polish, Bulgarian and Romanians. Interesting theory. But only a theory.
HB.
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