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If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis......
Hey Canary,
Let us know if you see Even (or Evan/Heaven) there. I could be tempted to swing by here again pretty soon if she is. You can't miss her. Slim gazelle, very pretty brunette, Romanian and with amazing pointed silicon tits (B+ cups). May be wearing thick black framed glasses.
Also could you provide a comment on the line up. Updates on any new stunners would be a plus.
Many thanks...Howie.
Milfotronic
05-20-18, 20:03
Since I've never been to a FKK I don't know what to expect. Does Artemis have private baths? I'd love to take a bath with 1-2 girls. I get the impression, however, that everything is done under stress: quick sex and fast cash.
If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis or indeed anything else, just drop me a line as I will be there tomorrow for nearly the whole day. So I will have a bit of spare "down time" to aid recovery.I'd like to know if Kiara (ger) or Kylie (cze) still are working in Artemis. Kiara has big silicon tits, lot of tattoos and amazing eyes. Kylie has brown hair and natural tits. She is a bit sharky.
Thanks!
If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis or indeed anything else, just drop me a line as I will be there tomorrow for nearly the whole day. So I will have a bit of spare "down time" to aid recovery.Thanks for you kind offer Canary.
Last February I had a great session with a Brazilian mulata around 30 years old, but don't recall her name. Reportedly she was back to Artemis after a long break. Can you see what Brazilian girls are hanging around?
When I was in Artemis, German girl Susie and Daisy were working there. Those 2 were sisters, I only had Susie and she was rather mechanical, but nice.I never saw Susie or her sister at Artemis since probably 2015. Maybe even 2014. She has mostly been at Sharks (as Liz) the past few years with a few shorter runs at GoldenTime Bruggen. Her sister Daisy stopped working from what I understood.
That's a very generous offer from you Mr. Canary. In case you should know them despite your third or fourth visit, the father of a cousin of my neighbor would like to know if Mariella and / or Tanja are currently or at all still hanging around Artemis.
Both are Germans from the North of the Republic, blond and know how to create a natural erection by letting their shapely buttocks wander through the club in an inimitable way.
But he's just a stalker, so do not take the request too seriously.
BTW Monday is a holiday in Germany, so don't wonder if you don't have to pay all the prostitutes by yourself.
At Milfotronic: There is a Vip room, I think it also has a jacuzzi. The use of course costs extra.
At DioRetz and Pksimar69:
Thank you for your helpful education and correction regarding the "nakedness".
Since I've never been to a FKK I don't know what to expect. Does Artemis have private baths? I'd love to take a bath with 1-2 girls. I get the impression, however, that everything is done under stress: quick sex and fast cash.Yes, in VIP room.
I got there tonight around 5:30, things didn't build up till around 8 I believe. Line up was less than stellar, BBBJ was almost impossible.
Wanted me a nice German blonde girl, refuse BBBJ, only saw 2. This new law suck monkey balls and ass. I settle up with 3 Romanians who did BBBJ with the scale level of 3 of 10 in looks. Lots of bottocs and disgusting implants. I will not be coming back to Artemis.
Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck!
Member #4636
05-24-18, 04:55
Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck!I have been told they share rooms to save on rent. In other clubs they pay 100 e to enter the club.
In my opinion Artemis is over rated, ok it is big and has lots of girls but the quality of service is not so good. I like Palace in FRA more.
I'd like to know if Kiara (ger) or Kylie (cze) still are working in Artemis. Kiara has big silicon tits, lot of tattoos and amazing eyes. Kylie has brown hair and natural tits. She is a bit sharky.
Thanks!I don't think Kiara works in Artemis any more. Either a break from this line of work or simply change of pasture, I don't remember which.
Rogue Nation
05-24-18, 13:44
I will not be coming back to Artemis.
Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck!The law will not change or disappear. The girl can do something about their situation. Otherwise more clients besides you and me will come to the conclusion you stated with the first sentence in my quote.
Kosher Kowboy
05-24-18, 14:11
BBBJ was almost impossible.
Wanted me a nice German blonde girl, refuse BBBJ, only saw 2. This new law suck monkey balls and ass. I settle up with 3 Romanians who did BBBJ with the scale level of 3 of 10 in looks. Lots of bottocs and disgusting implants. I will not be coming back to Artemis.
Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck!Good luck and enjoy your trip to LR, Care to expand on your comments a tad? Did the German girls refuse BBBJ and the Romanians were more flexible? Curious to know what they offered for a CBJ / FS session and what you settled for with the BBBJ / CFS sessions assuming no monkey wrenches to pricing were tossed in like DFK or DATY CIM or Greek etc.
It is sad this place has gone downhill but I may hit it in the fall. I have to pay the family an obligatory visit and go home and thru Baltimore I can fly in to Berlin for pennies so first night and last night in Berlin. Artemis I loved and it might not be what it was in 2016 (was fucking awesome in fact, highlight of that trip) but it beats sitting in my hotel room and I would much rather get hosed by one of them now if I could snap my fingers and be there instead I have to search for Texas WGs where pricing is sort of similar to meats, ' pay by pound'.
I would much rather go H2H with a Artemis girl now (All it takes is one, will look for the crack in the wall) than a Texan Pork Belly.
Visited Artemis on Tuesday at around 10. Went with a German girl named Anja (I think that was her name). She was a very petite blonde with natural breasts and several tattoos. She spoke pretty good English and was very enthusiastic, wasn't worried about time and didn't feel rushed at all. Anyone else familiar with this girl? I would def recommend her.
In my opinion Artemis is over rated, ok it is big and has lots of girls but the quality of service is not so good. I like Palace in FRA more.LOL I'm sure that for plenty of guys here, for somebody to say Palace is better than Artemis is like the pot calling the kettle black LOLOLOL! I happen to like both clubs and have garnered many, many pleasant memories from each of them. During my last trip, the brightest star of the entire journey was found at Artemis. FKKs are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get! The club that was hot the last time this time around is not. And vice versa. That's why you need to have a wide rotation and just get around to a lot of clubs. You just never know when and where you're going to discover the next top quality tute!
Member #4636
05-24-18, 19:43
LOL I'm sure that for plenty of guys here, for somebody to say Palace is better than Artemis is like the pot calling the kettle black LOLOLOL! I happen to like both clubs and have garnered many, many pleasant memories from each of them. During my last trip, the brightest star of the entire journey was found at Artemis. FKKs are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get! The club that was hot the last time this time around is not. And vice versa. That's why you need to have a wide rotation and just get around to a lot of clubs. You just never know when and where you're going to discover the next top quality tute!Well I have to agree it is like a box of chocolates. I have been to Artemis only once and to Palace 4 times. Maybe I was just lucky and found some lovely ladies in FRA while in Berlin it just wasn't my day. Bad thing with Berlin is that you don't have alternative options. What if I tell you that Sharks was even worse than both? LOL.
Good luck and enjoy your trip to LR, Care to expand on your comments a tad? Did the German girls refuse BBBJ and the Romanians were more flexible? Curious to know what they offered for a CBJ / FS session and what you settled for with the BBBJ / CFS sessions assuming no monkey wrenches to pricing were tossed in like DFK or DATY CIM or Greek etc..Could not hit LR tonight. I boarded the ICE 544 at 3:44 PM, and did not arrive in my hotel till 1:30 AM. Apparently people being killed by the ICE is a common occurrence in Germany, I thought people were joking, its not. They did give me a voucher for my money back, 116 Euro. As for the question about Romanians being more flexible? Not all. I had some flat out refuse and some wanted extra just for that without including CIM.
I did not find 1 single attractive Romanian there. I was able to bargain BBBJ only if it includes CIM, paid extra 40 Euro to 1 girl, and 50 Euro to the other 2. I am a CIM man, and I will refuse to pay extra for that, as some girls were there to ask for that on top. Standard FS / CBJ is still 60 euro's.
The girls there have an attitude. I have never experience this at any FKK I been too, there's also a lot of frustration as no one is really engaging, I really hope this get the point across to them, but I doubt it. The real German girls stood in the far right corner, before you enter the pole room section. I think those 2 maybe only had 1 session each through out the night I was there watching. German girls don't engage with the Romanians I notice, every FKK I been.
Finding a German is like finding a white girl among a bunch of black girls in the redlight of California.
Every Romanian claims to be something else, so obvious. The excitement is no longer what it once was in 6 years ago. I forgot to mention the food was fucking terrible! The club was not even full of men like it used to be, just rather dull.
I do no recommend this club to anyone, I will either hit LR or GT, but GT is so fucking far!
What if I tell you that Sharks was even worse than both? LOL.I would totally understand since Sharks doesn't do it for me either. In the Frankfurt area, I like Oase, Palace, and World in that order. I'm so disenchanted with Mainhattan that I don't even have a desire to go there anymore at the moment (and have not sessioned there in years). Also have not sessioned at Sharks in a long, long time but can't turn it totally off since there's just too much talent walking around that club numbers-wise.
Artemis was great on a Thursday, but I tried going back today (Friday at 4 pm) and there was literally a line of dudes at reception waiting to get in. I noped out of there and left.
I guess it was to be expected since it's the weekend, but nonetheless disappointing. Anyone here have experience Friday late night, like 2-3 am? I was thinking of returning then.
Rogue Nation
05-26-18, 07:56
The place is big. Why turn around if there's a line of guys?
Was there on Thursday night. Had a very good time. Spend most of my time with 2 Moldovan girls. The 1 blond tall her name was Ruby and the other one Isabelle I think dark hair.
I will definitely go again but not on Weekends.
ElephantBeer
05-29-18, 01:17
Can't say that I enjoyed my time at Artemis.
My partner is with me so I couldn't go at night. Arrived at 11:15 am and stayed to 6 pm on a Monday, probs not the best time, but it's what I had to work with.
Club.
The club itself is nice, but the outdoor pool seems smaller than other places I've been (Oase, Sharks) - or maybe that's just my imagination. The indoor (downstairs) pool was great, but empty (except when I was in it). They ask for additional money to use the hammam - 50 euro for 30 min or something? At an 80 euro entry, that crap should be free. The food offerings was pretty lame as well. I was hoping would have outdoor shag spots / tents / cabins (like Oase) but this was pretty contained. Overall, I liked the clubs in Frankfurt better. For the layout / ambiance of just soaking up some sun and watching nude girls play. Also, The kino wasn't as cool as the one in Oase. Nobody was using these areas / and the beers are $10 euro each.
Took a taxi, it was 34 euro there and 30 on the way back (Mitte).
Girls.
Totally under-impressed with the lineup. Maybe 30 girls and most all of them were old hags, if there was a girl in there under 25 I'll eat my shorts. When I inquired about their ages it was pretty funny, seems like it's common to take real age and subtract 10, sometimes 15. Some of the girls looked great from a distance, but up close their age really showed. Lines around the eyes deep enough to fill will wall plaster (and I think some of them tried).
A few interesting encounters, listening to their sales pitches, none of them were too aggressive, but the hard ones (er, really hard ones. They're all hard here) would just fire you and walk off (like Snow White).
I took a Spanish girl, she BJ with condom ($100 asked for extra / received a free laugh), and missionary sex. She kept her hand under her body the entire time assuring the condom stayed on. Terribly annoying.
Took a Berlin girl (blonde, not very hot), couldn't finish with her as the sex was so bad, she also was covered and wanted $50 extra for BBBJ. Again; the free laugh.
Took another German who was super thin, but up close looked like something escaped from the Egyptian Museum. She was totally insane, really insane (had been in the bars 10+ years). Biting me, talking wildly, deep throat (covered) and not in a good way, I ended it early and was just happy to escape the room.
The rest of the girls were just used up looking, haggard. Maybe it's different at night, and maybe more options. There were no blacks, Latin or any other flavor in the 7 HR I was around.
In the end I paid 330 euro for 3 forgettable experiences with 3 completely average to sub-average girls. Still, no hard feelings. Live and learn. The eye candy at a distance was fun.
Next trip is certainly back to Frankfurt and Dusseldorf for me!
She kept her hand under her body the entire time assuring the condom stayed on. Terribly annoying.I had the same thing happen with literally 5 of the 6 girls I experienced there. It's very annoying, but I get it.
The place is big. Why turn around if there's a line of guys?Bad advice. I actually went back and Artemis was stupidly crowded. You could barely walk around at all, and all the room keys were taken at times. Stay away from this club on the weekends if you don't want that.
There are 2 cinema's at Artemis. Which one did you try? Upstairs or downstairs? I've had some of my best sex experiences ever at the upstairs cinema. Downstairs kinda suck.
The pool outside is more shallow than at other clubs, like sharks. But I think it is the same size as sharks pool.
Member #4733
05-29-18, 17:46
I was there last Friday. An update. The theke during the day is a young fresh girl that was very nice for a change. The amount of girls far exceeded the number of men until around 10 pm But it never got really crowded like it used to be.
The beauty of the girls is better than at GT for example. At any time of day until around 10 pm there were always 5 to 10 girls that I liked well enough for a session. The food is getting worse and worse. Wonder what will be next. Crackers and canned fish? The staff at the bar has improved greatly. Only little waiting for a drink. More blonde girls than I could remember in the last 6 or 7 years or so. Even more plastic than I could remember. Most noticeable is the great lack of men during the day. I was at the pool with 7 girls, no other men. That was around 2 am. For her fans: I think I saw Jenna. Mandy definitely was there. I talked with a very nice girl, her name is Julia but I did not session with her. Raissa was there two. Beautiful as ever and very good skills but I didn't want her early in the day as she can make me come in minutes with her blowjob, covered or not.
I had sessions with Viviane, dark blonde, 1.60, 25 yo tattoo on her left butt cheek. Natural tits. She is from Germany. Her skills are good but her attitude sucks. She is very good at sucking and I had no trouble coming with CBJ. She told me she could not fuck all the time for 60 euro. Her pussy was too delicate and she could not fuck like a machine. So she said. Well, it seemed very much mechanical to me. So she was exactly doing the thing she said she wanted to avoid. For her skills are better than most. So not too bad a session but if you are looking for GFE, do not book her.
I liked Amy much better. A German blonde, 1.65, 27 yo. Natural tits. I had to kiss her. One of the best sessions so far this year. At some point she couldn't stop kissing me any more. So. I paid her a huge tip. A good session should be rewarded. Amy is often sitting at the bar, closest spot to the pole.
Last session was a mistake. Raja, a Moldovan with plastic tits and only 22 yo, 1.55. She has a face to die for. Her butt is unbelievable. But her service is so utterly bad I just want to forget about her.
Two tips: girls like Raissa, Viviane, Raissa and Mandy have excellent CBJ's. No need to pay for BBBJ. Other thing is that the beer will be free of charge during the World Cup matches of Germany. I wonder whether Artemis will get worse and worse or that the low level of service is just a dip. Anyway, the girls were quite polite this day and that has been different.
ElephantBeer
05-29-18, 18:39
There are 2 cinema's at Artemis. Which one did you try? Upstairs or downstairs? I've had some of my best sex experiences ever at the upstairs cinema. Downstairs kinda suck.
The pool outside is more shallow than at other clubs, like sharks. But I think it is the same size as sharks pool.Downstairs are the chairs, upstairs the beds. The Spanish girl found me in the kino downstairs, I went with her primarily due to the erection caused from the porn clip.
I dropped into the downstairs kino 4 x, I was the only one 3 of those times, the fourth there was an Asian kid, me, and someone sleeping behind me. Girls rarely if ever dropped in downstairs while I was there, and no action.
Upstairs were the beds, I didn't really feel comfortable hanging in this room as it was always dead empty. I'd have to sit on a bed and I thought that was asking for company. The lineup on Monday was truly dire and I was more akin to the virgin-girl locked in the prison overnight. Always trying to dodge the inmates and escape with my dignity intact!
Yeah, maybe the same size as Sharks (pool) - but Sharks just felt more fun. Maybe it was the better LU and hormones. Or the more open area.
ElephantBeer
05-29-18, 18:44
I had the same thing happen with literally 5 of the 6 girls I experienced there. It's very annoying, but I get it.Never had a girl hold the condom before. I've also never had a condom 'fall' off. I had to stop to ask her what she was doing. I thought maybe she was living in fear that one of my strokes would miss her vagina and land in her rear. (some danger of that as I could have let the MyTaxi park in there.
However, she replied she was holding the condom on. I explained that's what my cock is for. But she continued to hold it.
No BBBJ, holding condoms on, if this is where the world is going I'm just going to stay in Asia. But will miss my twice yearly trips to Germany. If nothing else for the beer and food.
Raissa still working day shift? I missed out on her once or twice since she left too early. One of the few girls to look forward to at Artemis these days. Did you spot Aksena or Suna by the way? Or Ella?
Took a taxi, it was 34 euro there and 30 on the way back (Mitte)...Try public transport system next time. For 7.70 Euro you get a day ticket for the whole of Berlin. (I think valid until 2 am.) For 3.40 Euro you can drive through the city for 2 hours.
The money saved, compared to the taxi ride, you can invest in the hamam, an extra or a few beers.
.Took another German who was super thin, but up close looked like something escaped from the Egyptian Museum. She was totally insane, really insane...Do you remember her name? I like crazy people or at least more then those who think they are not a bit insane at all.
Thanks for the work you put in your report.
Looking forward to Berlin.
ElephantBeer
05-30-18, 13:25
Try public transport system next time. For 7.70 Euro you get a day ticket for the whole of Berlin. (I think valid until 2 am.) For 3.40 Euro you can drive through the city for 2 hours.
The money saved, compared to the taxi ride, you can invest in the hamam, an extra or a few beers.
Do you remember her name? I like crazy people or at least more then those who think they are not a bit insane at all.
Looking forward to Berlin.Yeah, I was headed for the metro. It goes pretty close, but these days I have to save every bit of energy I have. So much easier to open up the MyTaxi app and chill. I wasn't bemoaning the price, just documenting it for other mongers. But, you're right. The taxi was the same cost as another short time.
Nope, can't remember her name, dark hair, super skinny, doesn't like the sun. Appears to stake out the bar area, friends with a very large blonde gal. She was just too much for me, if you've ever shagged a crack / coke person you'll know what I mean. One second a blow job then jumps up to talk to you, bite your stomach, down for another stroke or two of BJ then telling you she hates boring sex, then bites your arm, runs her mouth, jumps up etc etc. Like a love-bot with some seriously screwed up software.
Not my thing. I prefer them to just lay down, open and let me do the work.
Excuse my low to no English skills. I understood not everything exactly but I guess I got the main meaning. Taxi is far more relaxed, especially when it is so hot out there. Copy that, it safes some energy. I was also just trying to give some serious information about the easy public transport possibility to those who may interested.
So do you included the bill for the cab rides and one beer into your 330 euro all in all Artemis day costs? I am just asking because out of your writings I assume that all your 3 rooms were for 60 Euro each.
Nope, can't remember her name, dark hair, super skinny, doesn't like the sun. Appears to stake out the bar area, friends with a very large blonde gal. She was just too much for me, if you've ever shagged a crack / coke person you'll know what I mean. One second a blow job then jumps up to talk to you, bite your stomach, down for another stroke or two of BJ then telling you she hates boring sex, then bites your arm, runs her mouth, jumps up etc etc. Like a love-bot with some seriously screwed up software.
Not my thing. I prefer them to just lay down, open and let me do the work.YaYa sounds tough to handle if you were actually looking for something else. I am sure you're able to score in the next yard. And really I don't know what you mean, but at least I am grinning if I imagine how the bored shark is trying to bite into elephants belly. Hope you don't misunderstood the humor.
Thanks for your responds.
TheCanadian
05-30-18, 20:40
I liked Amy much better. A German blonde, 1.65, 27 yo. Natural tits. I had to kiss her. One of the best sessions so far this year. At some point she couldn't stop kissing me any more. So. I paid her a huge tip. A good session should be rewarded. Amy is often sitting at the bar, closest spot to the pole.Indeed, Amy is a gem. I never saw her hanging out at a bar since she finds me often than I her. However, she is charming, welcoming, and often wears lingerie.
Public transport:
The day ticket is 8.00 Euro and valid until 03:00 am IMHO.
The two hour ticket is 2.80 Euro now.
Above tickets are valid for zone A and be in Berlin. This is enough when you fly in via Tegel (TXL).
Schoenefeld (SXF) is in zone see, and that could be the 3. 40 Euro ticket.
However, either train station Halensee or Westkreuz, both are just a short walk away from Arte.
ExpatLover
05-30-18, 21:17
Yeah, I was headed for the metro. It goes pretty close, but these days I have to save every bit of energy I have. So much easier to open up the MyTaxi app and chill. I wasn't bemoaning the price, just documenting it for other mongers. But, you're right. The taxi was the same cost as another short time.
Nope, can't remember her name, dark hair, super skinny, doesn't like the sun. Appears to stake out the bar area, friends with a very large blonde gal. She was just too much for me, if you've ever shagged a crack / coke person you'll know what I mean. One second a blow job then jumps up to talk to you, bite your stomach, down for another stroke or two of BJ then telling you she hates boring sex, then bites your arm, runs her mouth, jumps up etc etc. Like a love-bot with some seriously screwed up software.
Not my thing. I prefer them to just lay down, open and let me do the work.Saving energy by refusing to walk from public transportation stop to Artemis, if this is true it is better you stay home. It is so close.
Hi guys,
I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?
Public transport:
The day ticket is 8.00 Euro and valid until 03:00 am IMHO.Yes, error after my assumption. Day ticket is valid until 3 am. Even better.
Here are some actual prices for the 2 hrs one direction tickets and for the day tickets. But no guarantee, maybe they changed on first of June.
Excuse, found it only in aleman language.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aboundtickets/einzeltickets.htm&ved=2ahUKEwjejYj6nbHbAhUBKVAKHUSCCH8QFjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3DThmjlA5dUh1pzNjz7Hd6
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aboundtickets/tageskarte.htm&ved=2ahUKEwjejYj6nbHbAhUBKVAKHUSCCH8QFjACegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2Kni2WCYf7-4ozbQUwRbsV
Hi guys,
I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?Hello you,
I think exactly the opposite could be the case. Consider what all the hooligans who were denied entry into Russia will do. They will overrun the Berlin Fan Mile and other places with a big public viewing all over the city such as beach bars and pubs, just to watch soccer and drinking in the sun all day long. (As well as a few others of the annually approximately 13 million Berlin tourists.).
After the final whistle a few of them could come to only one idea: "Lets go to a brothel to fuck!
As a working girl I would stay in artemis or become another new girlfriend of Christiano Ronaldo to travel for free to Russia.
I also hope that it is not empty of girls.
Hi guys!
In your opinion what is the best arrival time?
Next Thursday will be my first time in FKK and I'll be landing in Berlin at 1:30 pm but I'd like to visit Berlin beforehand.
Thank you in advance.
TheCanadian
06-01-18, 16:11
Hi guys,
I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?Don't worry. Berlin has always events like festivals, exhibitions, etc, also in June. I would rather stay away when really big events are on like IFA or Venus, because Arte could be very crowded then.
Hence, enjoy!
Member #4636
06-01-18, 20:49
Hi guys!
In your opinion what is the best arrival time?
Next Thursday will be my first time in FKK and I'll be landing in Berlin at 1:30 pm but I'd like to visit Berlin beforehand.
Thank you in advance.You have plenty of time to visit the city before heading to Artemis which is the only FKK anyway. From the airport Tegel or the other shitty one you can go downtown in 30 minutes approx and see some places of interest by walk and then have plenty of time to take the train to Westkreuz station which is only 5 minutes walk from the club.
Hi guys,
I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?No way. For many reasons starting with the visa requirement, with game venues spread over 3,000 km and all the expenses to set up for just one month, only "high class" escorts might take a chance to go to Moscow.
There have always been stories about working girls heading to countries where the Olympics or major football events happen, but it's not true and reports from the ground in past years suggest that business is slow as the locals are watching the games. In fact you might benefit as locals will be more interested in the World cup rather than go to an FKK.
Member #4733
06-02-18, 10:21
Hi guys,
I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?Your post already has a few useful replies. I'd like to add a bit. Last week I found one Russian girl in Artemis. Maybe I missed one or two, but it cannot be much. Girls from other countries will have some difficulty getting a working place in Moscow or St Pete. But there is more. If you go on a day that Germany has one of their matches, you can take advantage of the many Germans that will watch the match. Girls won't have much business than. So, you have more options. If you opt to join the Germans and watch the match the beer will be free. Either way you will win.
No way. For many reasons starting with the visa requirement, with game venues spread over 3,000 km and all the expenses to set up for just one month, only "high class" escorts might take a chance to go to Moscow.
There have always been stories about working girls heading to countries where the Olympics or major football events happen, but it's not true and reports from the ground in past years suggest that business is slow as the locals are watching the games. In fact you might benefit as locals will be more interested in the World cup rather than go to an FKK.Totally rIght. When the World Cup was staged in Germany there was little difference in the number of workers, and generally no spike in customer numbers. In fact the customers spent hours watching the matches on screens in the clubs and the girls were twiddling their thumbs. Girls will not be heading off to Russia.
You have plenty of time to visit the city before heading to Artemis which is the only FKK anyway. From the airport Tegel or the other shitty one you can go downtown in 30 minutes approx and see some places of interest by walk and then have plenty of time to take the train to Westkreuz station which is only 5 minutes walk from the club.Thanks!
I'll be coming from Schoenefeld but I guess it's almost the same.
Member #4636
06-02-18, 18:31
Thanks!
I'll be coming from Schoenefeld but I guess it's almost the same.It is even easier then if you have an early morning flight back you can take the train from Westkreuz to Schonefield. Make sure you don't stay long in that airport, it is the worst in Europe!
It is even easier then if you have an early morning flight back you can take the train from Westkreuz to Schonefield. Make sure you don't stay long in that airport, it is the worst in Europe!It's really convenient! Thanks for the tips.
Why is this the worst airport in Europe?
ExpatLover
06-04-18, 10:45
Hi guys,
I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?0 risk, the girls will not take any risk to go there knowing the bad reputation of the country and authorities, they prefer to stay in Germany even the business is never good during World cup.
It's really convenient! Thanks for the tips.
Why is this the worst airport in Europe?Clearly somebody needs to visit more European airports. LOL! In Germany, try Frankfurt Hahn for example.
Member #4733
06-04-18, 20:52
It's really convenient! Thanks for the tips. Why is this the worst airport in Europe?I have been there about 20 times. Schönefeld airport is the original East Germany airport. And most likely it is the best place to still "smell" the East German luxury. The arrivals area has been improved lately. The departure area depends. The area where RyanAir planes leave is not too bad. The area where EasyJet leaves is probably the best place to experience East German luxury. There is no real hall, just an isle. But I never had big problems. Maybe a delay of 45 minutes was the worst that happened. When tired and all seats are taken people sometimes sit on the floor. The airfare compensates a lot.
Haha alright I see thanks to all of you!
I can't wait to see Germany for the very first time! I don't travel often so it's new to me.
The weather will be beautiful on Thursday I'm lucky.
Have a good day guys thanks!
PinballMachine
06-05-18, 17:25
Haha alright I see thanks to all of you!
I can't wait to see Germany for the very first time! I don't travel often so it's new to me.
The weather will be beautiful on Thursday I'm lucky.
Have a good day guys thanks!Yes, you are a lucky man indeed, the naked ladies will make you feel very welcome I can guarantee you that. I Think you said in an earlier post that you will check out Berlin before you go to Artemis, but I say go to Artemis directly, and then see if you still feel the same way.
Member #4636
06-05-18, 18:28
Haha alright I see thanks to all of you!
I can't wait to see Germany for the very first time! I don't travel often so it's new to me.
The weather will be beautiful on Thursday I'm lucky.
Have a good day guys thanks!Enjoy your time in Berlin and Artemis! That is where I started my tours as well (not that I have gone anywhere else than Frankfurt. LOL).
Member #4636
06-05-18, 19:59
Yes, you are a lucky man indeed, the naked ladies will make you feel very welcome I can guarantee you that. I Think you said in an earlier post that you will check out Berlin before you go to Artemis, but I say go to Artemis directly, and then see if you still feel the same way.Or go to Artemis directly for a first round then go downtown and come back with the same ticket to continue.
It's very possible that I go directly to Artemis and then later will hang out in Berlin a little bit!
You're right that's a good idea! I want to see the Branderburg Gate, Reichstag, East Side Gallery if I can see all of them that would be great!
I have one last question for you guys: how much do cost extras like CIM and bareback blowjob? I guess it depends but how much would you say? 100€ for both?
Thanks.
Member #4636
06-06-18, 20:33
It's very possible that I go directly to Artemis and then later will hang out in Berlin a little bit!
You're right that's a good idea! I want to see the Branderburg Gate, Reichstag, East Side Gallery if I can see all of them that would be great!
I have one last question for you guys: how much do cost extras like CIM and bareback blowjob? I guess it depends but how much would you say? 100 for both?
Thanks.Regarding Berlin tour: Take the train to Alexander platz, take your walk tour visit the Berliner Dom, and continue to the Bradenburg gate, getting the 'street feeling'. From there take another long walk to checkpoint Charlie and visit one museum about the wall (there is one just opposite checkpoint). If you have time take the Ubahn to east side gallery as you mentioned. The Reichstag is impressive but you will need time and there is also a queue this time of year.
BBBJ will cost you either free or extra 50 euro better negotiate from beginning, CIM is 50 extra, maybe DATY the same, and anal is 100 but not all girls will offer.
Regarding Berlin tour: Take the train to Alexander platz, take your walk tour visit the Berliner Dom, and continue to the Bradenburg gate, getting the 'street feeling'. From there take another long walk to checkpoint Charlie and visit one museum about the wall (there is one just opposite checkpoint). If you have time take the Ubahn to east side gallery as you mentioned. The Reichstag is impressive but you will need time and there is also a queue this time of year.
BBBJ will cost you either free or extra 50 euro better negotiate from beginning, CIM is 50 extra, maybe DATY the same, and anal is 100 but not all girls will offer.Thank you so much! That's what I'm going to do!
UltraHappy
06-10-18, 17:02
I haven't seen the film yet, but the trailer for the film Hotel Artemis appears to be a fairly accurate portrayal of its FKK namesake in Berlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfuKsoEEm.
Yup, that trailer about sums up the club.
Was there yesterday annd first new thing I noticed is they took out the locker fee because customers have been complaining.
Sessioned with a new comer from Latvia, she is white with smooth skin, nice curves and ass, beautiful face with red lipstick and very long blond hair. It looked natural. One quirk is her small breasts but they actually fit her body and are natural, in contrary to the usual silicon zombies you usually see. She usually works at oceans in Köln area, but is at Artemis for a while, so make sure you session with her before she goes. Nice attitude and talks good English.
Fucking her nice ass is a lovely experience.
ForeignGuy93
06-12-18, 10:00
Hi all!
I am visiting Berlin from the US, and want to go to a FKK for the first time. Arrived yesterday and planning to make it to Artemis or another FKK (recommendation for first timers?) today. If anyone in the area would like to go, please PM me. Would be great to go with a fellow hobbyist to show me the ropes my first time! Happy to pay for drinks!
Thanks!
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This is the most international, ie the less Rumanian of all FKK line-ups. About 8 latinas among whom 2 Brazilians. Some interesting black skin. This is also the oldest LU, older even than GT's. MILFs with toned bodies. Not bad at all, far better than twenty somethings with poor figures!
At 80 euros the entrance is expensive though. The food is hardly better than Acapulco's. I saw no place to relax and read a book after sunset, and it seemed e-books were not tolerated judging by the paranoid posters against "phones, cameras, tablets etc. " Rather than linger all day long in the club, better venture out into the city and avail oneself of the opportunity to come back later.
I saw no place to relax and read a book after sunset.Some bears read in restaurant / dining area. Not complete sure if there is enough light to read downstairs by the indoorpool during the night, may depend on your eyes. The round couch under the stairs could also work. But never tried it personally, maybe a book with XXL letters could be a solution.
Reading by the entrance should also be possible, even e-books. If not, a friendly big muscle man who is wearing an Artemis shirt would teach you what to do. (hard return).
I guess.
I didn't know the basic rate here was 60€ until a client told me so today. I thought I had been tipping the girls 10€ by giving them 60.
I had a good session with a German girl who is not at all my type, because of her Lolo Ferrari tits. I don't care either way about tits but I'd have feared such weighty appendages would hinder the girl in doggy. It turned out quite allright in the room. She had a pussy that was both tight and easy to slip in and out. She is not easy to overlook on account of her monstrous tits and her exaggeratedly siliconed lips.
After 2 visits on 2 consecutive days I rate the Artemis LU on a par with Oase's, a notch above Oase's even if you value variety and black skin. What with the 80€ entrance, the starting price at 60€ instead of 50, the crappy food and the run-down infrastructure, Oase remains better value for money.
I didn't know the basic rate here was 60 until a client told me so today. I thought I had been tipping the girls 10 by giving them 60. I had a good session with a German girl who is not at all my type, because of her Lolo Ferrari tits. She is not easy to overlook on account of her monstrous tits and her exaggeratedly siliconed lips. What with the 80 entrance, the starting price at 60 instead of 50, the crappy food and the run-down infrastructure, Oase remains better value for money.Dude,
The basic rate at Artemis has been discussed long and often here. Don't know how you could have missed that. As for the girl, I think I know exactly which one you're talking about. Totally not my type either, and one of the ones at Artemis I describe as a "plastic monster" LOL! And yes, the facilities at Artemis were looking a little ratty the last time I was there. Time for some refurbishment! The last time I was in Germany, which has been awhile, Oase had the far superior line-up, but Artemis made up for it for having the number one super star of my entire trip. The one and only "Lilia"! Yes sir! No matter, if you're in Berlin, then you just have to do Artemis!
TheCanadian
06-13-18, 20:41
(...) I had a good session with a German girl who is not at all my type, because of her Lolo Ferrari tits. I don't care either way about tits but I'd have feared such weighty appendages would hinder the girl in doggy. It turned out quite allright in the room. She had a pussy that was both tight and easy to slip in and out. She is not easy to overlook on account of her monstrous tits and her exaggeratedly siliconed lips. (...)This is Jenna.
Indeed, she really stands out. I tried her as well and liked her service.
She can be recommended but indeed rather to guys who care about her dominant physical attributes.
SuppenHuhn
06-13-18, 22:05
XXL,
Your Girl with the gigantic boobs is famous Jenna.
TeddyBears
06-14-18, 00:41
Haven't been to Artemis since September last year oh god I miss the place! I need to come back soon, just the thought to come early afternoon and have a breakfast and then go and fuck the lovely Kisha to have the best start of the afternoon, after a couple of hours rest continue the decadence with sweet Thai girl Suna, then after dinner go with big breasted barbie doll Thai Akira after a little rest continue the orgy with the most beautiful Carrie and then to end it with a bang to fuck the tight Aileen before you head home to the hotel for some well needed sleep. I love it!
A question for the regulars, If you only go for one hour sessions will most girls then provide BBBJ? Or is it still hard to get BBBJ at Artemis?
I am asking generally not the specific goddesses mentioned in this post.
A cluster of Asians with taxi drivers in tow were hogging the front desk when I walked in, a sign that this was going to be a crowded day compared to Tuesday and Wednesday.
First a warning about German Nana. Tall, light brown skin, black eyes and long raven black hair, she looked more like a classical Spanish beauty than a teutonic one. When I whipped out my latex-free Sagami she went "wait a minute girls do not normally accept clients'condoms", a blatant lie. Then came a spiel about BBBJ which I cut short by requiring "hand-job only". She then declared DATY was not included in the 60. In a nuttshell, she wanted 100.
The girls on my to-do list had contrived either not to come to work today or to stay booked for hours. The crappy loud music and the cigarette smoke compelled me regularly to take breaths outdoors to avert a headache. In the cantine I witnessed a very ugly female member of staff being rude to a customer for having committed the heinous crime of ever so slightly misplacing a ladle.
A first Thai girl understood I was not interested in her upon my telling her I was now retired and a resident of Pattaya. A second Thai girl refused to take the hint and went away in a huff after I spelled out I was going places in Europe to do caucasian and black girls, not Asian girls. None of those 2 Thai girls had much to recommend them in the looks department.
I finally had a bang for my buck through a repeat session with Bulgarian Catarina (white-skinned, narrow-shouldered, minute tits and broad hips with delicious saddle-bags and a touch of cellulite).
Three days running at Artemis may have been too much for my declining sex-drive and my mushrooming jadedness. I'll try to stick to sightseeing tomorrow and revisit the club early on Saturday before flying away on Sunday morning. I have been stretching my pensioner's budget as it is.
I'm staying at Ibis Messe, a 10 minute's walk from Artemis, but a hotel I wouldn't recommend because it has no in-room safe. That's no problem at Artemis owing to the impeccable locker arrangements there, but what about if you want to sample Berlin's street action? Would it be all right to leave cash and credit cards unattended in the room? I came with hand-luggage only so I have no lockable suitcase to use as safe storage.
In the cantine I witnessed a very ugly female member of staff being rude to a customer for having committed the heinous crime of ever so slightly misplacing a ladle. The crappy loud music and the cigarette smoke compelled me regularly to take breaths outdoors to avert a headache.I wonder if that's the same hag who called me "schwein" because I accidentally spilled some gravy? Probably LOL! I'm OK with the music, but they really, really, really need to do something about the cigarette smoke. It was really bad time last time I was there and made me (and Lilia) sick! But that was during winter when opening the windows meant allowing in too much cold for the girls. Those windows ought to be able to be opened wide by now!
Haven't been to Artemis since September last year oh god I miss the place! I need to come back soon, just the thought to come early afternoon and have a breakfast and then go and fuck the lovely Kisha to have the best start of the afternoon, after a couple of hours rest continue the decadence with sweet Thai girl Suna, then after dinner go with big breasted barbie doll Thai Akira after a little rest continue the orgy with the most beautiful Carrie and then to end it with a bang to fuck the tight Aileen before you head home to the hotel for some well needed sleep. I love it!
A question for the regulars, If you only go for one hour sessions will most girls then provide BBBJ? Or is it still hard to get BBBJ at Artemis?
I am asking generally not the specific goddesses mentioned in this post.I have been to Artemis three times in six months and very rarely had problems receiving BBBJ. Getting it without extra payment is the difficult part. But it can be done!
PinballMachine
06-16-18, 08:33
I really think they should turn the volume of the Music down. In the main bar it is difficult to talk to the Girls because of the loud Music.
Traveller63
06-16-18, 11:45
A few thoughts based on my experiences.
I have often stayed at the Ibis Messe and would recommend. There is no security safe but I carry my passport and cash with me and store them in the Artemis locker. I have sometimes left a tablet or laptop charging in the IBIS room and have never had a problem. The IBIS Messe is expensive when there is an event on at the Messe, so I then book into the IBIS City West which is a short metro journey away in the morning and an 8 Euro taxi back at night.
As for Kindle reading, never had a problem. My basic Kindle has a cover and I carry it openly. I find the best internal spot is the downstairs bar. Generally, the light is a little dim but there are bar side seats that are beneath spotlights that make reading easy. I have spent hours down there, happily reading my kindle and chatting to bar staff and ladies with no comments made. I think that a tablet would get a different reception and mobile phones are of course verboten.
The food in Artemis is mass catering. OK mass catering but mass catering. It doesn't pretend to be anything else.
BBBJ is available. Usually at extra cost and I suspect with chaps that the girls recognise and so are unlikely to be from the Authorities. I have received it without extra cost from ladies I see regularly. No names, no pack-drill.
WarmStone25
06-18-18, 17:32
It will be two weeks on Thursday when I was last at Artemis. Most of my best sessions start in the downstairs Kino. A girl approached me there, before I was ready for a girl, but we were soon in the room at the back of the Kino. As usual I asked for the standard 60 euro job. What I got was DKF and BBBJ, and followed by reverse cowgirl. All of this was unbidden. The session lasted about 15 minutes, or more, but it was short, sharp and intense. I paid 60 euro, the girl never asked for more. Later I went with a girl from Hamburg, but the session did not work. I did not blame the girl, maybe I had not recovered from the first session. I wondered if the first girl, perhaps, thought that she knew me from somewhere.
I have been to Artemis three times in six months and very rarely had problems receiving BBBJ. Getting it without extra payment is the difficult part. But it can be done!It depends. The girls try to take as much money as possible and it gets hard in Artemis. 3 days in Artemis in the last week and as a principle, any girl that asked for extra for this I didn't go with and will not go with. But, I must say, the football is a pleasure, food is actually quite ok recently and the place is well maintained. Not so bad overall, if you find some girls that are fair.
After 2 visits on 2 consecutive days I rate the Artemis LU on a par with Oase's, a notch above Oase's even if you value variety and black skin. What with the 80 entrance, the starting price at 60 instead of 50, the crappy food and the run-down infrastructure, Oase remains better value for money.Most people get the 12 for 10 card. Making entry 66 euro. Then again, most people at Oase only pay 50 anyway. Indeed Oase is better, but Artemis has more girls and slightly better variety historically. And less chance for groups to apply club wide upselling. Kind of like Sharks in that aspect. Still Artemis is a bit high priced compared to competition in western Germany, making it less ideal for FKK travels. Only good if flights are much cheaper or you are in Berlin. Their monopoly as an FKK in Berlin lets them set the prices accordingly I guess. Like Goldentime in Vienna which has even crazier entry fee at 90 e.
Most people get the 12 for 10 card. Making entry 66 euro. Then again, most people at Oase only pay 50 anyway. Indeed Oase is better, but Artemis has more girls and slightly better variety historically. And less chance for groups to apply club wide upselling. Kind of like Sharks in that aspect. Still Artemis is a bit high priced compared to competition in western Germany, making it less ideal for FKK travels. Only good if flights are much cheaper or you are in Berlin. Their monopoly as an FKK in Berlin lets them set the prices accordingly I guess. Like Goldentime in Vienna which has even crazier entry fee at 90 e.Most people actually don't buy the 12 for 10 card. She keeps them in a box and we she opens that box you can see, it isn't so many. Still, Artemis is the most expensive club in Germany, but what choice do Berliners have.
TeddyBears
06-21-18, 15:53
I am flying from Copenhagen to Berlin, if I'm in good time with flight tickets I can get them for 60 euro round trip, if I want to go to Frankfurt from Copenhagen flight tickets are 350 euro so for me the decision is easy. If I choose to live in Charlottenburg then taxi is very cheap as well. In Frankfurt a few of the clubs is outside the center and if you don't wish to use public transportation like me then it gets expensive to go by taxi. Even the hotel is much cheaper in Berlin so as a tourist it's a no brainer with all what Berlin has to offer.
I am flying from Copenhagen to Berlin, if I'm in good time with flight tickets I can get them for 60 euro round trip, if I want to go to Frankfurt from Copenhagen flight tickets are 350 euro so for me the decision is easy. If I choose to live in Charlottenburg then taxi is very cheap as well. In Frankfurt a few of the clubs is outside the center and if you don't wish to use public transportation like me then it gets expensive to go by taxi. Even the hotel is much cheaper in Berlin so as a tourist it's a no brainer with all what Berlin has to offer.Ryanair flies Copenhagen. Cologne. From there you can get a rental car. But I hear you. It has been like that with me before also.
ExpatLover
06-22-18, 10:05
I am flying from Copenhagen to Berlin, if I'm in good time with flight tickets I can get them for 60 euro round trip, if I want to go to Frankfurt from Copenhagen flight tickets are 350 euro so for me the decision is easy. If I choose to live in Charlottenburg then taxi is very cheap as well. In Frankfurt a few of the clubs is outside the center and if you don't wish to use public transportation like me then it gets expensive to go by taxi. Even the hotel is much cheaper in Berlin so as a tourist it's a no brainer with all what Berlin has to offer.Impossible to compare both cities only one club in Berlin Artemis a real nightmare for all senior and experienced mongers, poor LU, mostly veteran bitches, sucking far more your money than your dick. In Hessen so many possibilities around, also Berlin hotels are not cheaper, overall better to find a another mean to travel to Frankfurt if your level of expectations are high.
TeddyBears
06-24-18, 12:06
Thank you for your advise haven't thought about that before! Cologne has a few clubs as well, do you or anyone else know if they are worth a visit?
Superwoman blond edition. That's Katrin from Poland. Green eyes, godly lips. Massive curves and a lovely ass made for fucking. Good attitude too. She wanted to come after three days of not coming. So a good DATY made her come loud, and took no extra for that. Followed by a nice BJ with eyes contact, and missionary, and finally doggy. I collapsed next to her with heart pounding like hell.
Another sessions with Gabbi from Hungary, which was nice too. But katrin takes the cake.
With that said I don't think I will come back to this club again, the trip just aint worth it for a few pearls, you might meet if you are lucky. There should be a better variety of beauties. There is some seriousely fugly biathes there with huge asses, where the f**k have FKK's come to?
Ride the waves, my friends.
Over and out.
TeddyBears
07-10-18, 11:41
I will soon be heading to Artemis again. Does anyone know if Akira and Suna both Thai is still around? Or are there other Asian or Latin girls on the menu nowadays?
TheCanadian
07-12-18, 19:25
I will soon be heading to Artemis again. Does anyone know if Akira and Suna both Thai is still around? Or are there other Asian or Latin girls on the menu nowadays?Hi TeddyBears,
I will be there this Saturday and take a look.
Cheers!
Hi,
I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?
Hi,
I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?She is the only lady at Artemis I've seen at the bar on every visit but as she doesn't approach men I never roomed with her as for some reason she looked very intimidating!
She is the only lady at Artemis I've seen at the bar on every visit but as she doesn't approach men I never roomed with her as for some reason she looked very intimidating!There is a reason why she doesn't approach me men. Not have to.
She has regulars that stays long time with her at the club.
When I first saw her I thought she looked cold. But after gone with her to room she's one favorite.
Hi,
I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?Check and believe her Twitter. She is now on vacation until mid-August. But you can make an appointment with her. Good service.
But instead of looking for another guy, just take a second working woman to a room and pay her to play the masculine part by wearing a fake beard and a big fat strap-on.
Hope I am helping.
Hi,
I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?I would love to McKenzy, am am only visiting though so depends on dates. I am in Berlin aug 8-10 only. Jenna's latest pics on social media look GREAT, lips = lovely and bigger than ever, boobs seems to be 1800cc+ also that is bigger than ever. :-)
Canary: she SEEMS intimidating, not very interested sitting there but once you speak to her or go with her you'll see she is a very sweet and nice girl. Especially if you are into her looks and appreciate her, giving her validation.I have met her two times, both very nice.
Had a short visit yesterday, although the LU was a little down, I have managed to have 2 great sessions.
First a hot Brazilian with great butt and lovely personality, love those sleazy Latinas.
The second one was a beautiful Turkish girl, I could not resist and upgraded to one hour + ass fucking, unforgettable session.
I didn't see Jenna and there is now a free WiFi in Artemis.
There is this sex cyborg with puta tattoo on her lower back that each man she take upstairs does not last more then 10 minutes.
The LU is OK, more updates later on.
JustinRose
07-20-18, 23:36
Hi all,
Any long term mongers here regarding Artemis.
Read somewhere the line up quality used to be better some 4-5 years ago, when I visited last time in Berlin. Do you agree, or is it just some posh talk with not knowing any better?
Cheers,
Justin.
Member #4636
07-21-18, 08:59
Hi all,
I visited the club after 6 months and the only good difference I noticed was the electronic lockers. The line up was not good only 2-3 girls really nice between a total of 35-40 girls maximum. I had a session with one of these few girls she was from Albania, can't recall her name (started from A) but blonde hair not very long and tall with nice body. We agreed to do several things before going to the room and before starting in the room and at the end she did not do what we agreed. She was trying to upwell all the time and kept changing the tariff. Not happy at all.
The other 2 girls I tried were so so. The showers were under construction so you had to go downstairs at the pool to take a shower. The food was under average and generally I must say I was disappointed. I wasn't excited even the first time I went in January but this time it really sucked. The clubs in Frankfurt are much better so stay away, I don't really think it is worth a visit for a 80 euro entry and the service from the girls. I will not visit again, Berlin and Artemis are over, I have had enough. Artemis is over rated and not value for money anymore in my opinion.
TeddyBears
07-24-18, 21:56
I left Artemis 10 minuteS ago after a 6 hour visit. I am well aware that it's Tuesday and probably a few girls have vacation or are free at the weekdays. The thing is that I have only visited Artemis Sunday-Wednesday before as well, I normally visit Berlin 4-5 times a year and always visit Artemis on those visits, so about 15 visits a year normally. Have been doing this since 2009 so I am not a newbie at Artemis.
But for various reasons this was my first visit this year and I was tremendously underwhelmed by the lineup today, day and night shift combined about 60 girls only a handful of them doable in my opinion, not even one really beautiful girl! This has never happened before on my visits, I am almost in shock. On top of that I learned that all the girls charge extra 50€ for BBBJ but most of them at least do it! I am not a regular so I can't comment if it's common that Artemis lineup is this weak normally, but I can tell you it sure wasn't so weak the last 9 years visiting. First time ever I don't even have one session when visiting.
I frequently monger in Spain, and I must say with the up sell currently at Artemis I rather spend my money on the South American girls for less money.
Rogue Nation
07-25-18, 08:37
I was tremendously underwhelmed by the lineup today,
if it's common that Artemis lineup is this weak normally, but I can tell you it sure wasn't so weak the last 9 years visiting. First time ever I don't even have one session when visitingWell, bad timing. Holiday season for the EE girls plus lingerie day.
The line up was not good only 2-3 girls really nice between a total of 35-40 girls maximum.
She was trying to upwell all the time and kept changing the tariff. Not happy at all.
The other 2 girls I tried were so so. The showers were under construction so you had to go downstairs at the pool to take a shower. The food was under average and generally I must say I was disappointed. I wasn't excited even the first time I went in January but this time it really sucked. The clubs in Frankfurt are much better so stay away, I don't really think it is worth a visit for a 80 euro entry and the service from the girls. I will not visit again, Berlin and Artemis are over, I have had enough. Artemis is over rated and not value for money anymore in my opinion.My last visit to Artemis was in 2014 and even at that time my impression was that it is over rated. Food, facilities, rooms, Line-up, service quality, value for money. So on my last visits to Berlin I skipped Artemis and waited until I got back to Frankfurt to hit the clubs.
Member #4636
07-26-18, 05:27
Well, bad timing. Holiday season for the EE girls plus lingerie day.
My last visit to Artemis was in 2014 and even at that time my impression was that it is over rated. Food, facilities, rooms, Line-up, service quality, value for money. So on my last visits to Berlin I skipped Artemis and waited until I got back to Frankfurt to hit the clubs.Maybe it never was VFM. People go there because it is the only club in Berlin and the management takes advantage of this monopoly.
StarletVoyager
07-27-18, 14:19
I've been out of the game for a couple of years. Has the artemis LU remained as varied as it was back in 2015? Can someone give me an accurate description of the types of girls present in Artemis now? Some good / bad reports here and I do like the german polish girls if anyone remembers hannah, gabi types. Thanks to all.
Rogue Nation
07-27-18, 17:43
Maybe it never was VFM. People go there because it is the only club in Berlin and the management takes advantage of this monopoly.It was when it opened. Most girls came from other big clubs and where okay to get 60€ instead of 50€ per half hour. That lasted a few years but from 2012 it went the wrong way. My opinion.
Member #4636
07-28-18, 04:23
It was when it opened. Most girls came from other big clubs and where okay to get 60 instead of 50 per half hour. That lasted a few years but from 2012 it went the wrong way. My opinion.I can see it is going the wrong way because myself saw a big difference in just 6 months. I can imagine how much better it was before a couple of years.
I was so disappointed I will never visit again in my life.
TeddyBears
07-28-18, 16:52
Well, bad timing. Holiday season for the EE girls plus lingerie day.
Hopefully only bad timing! But it feels like the club is slowly getting worse year by year, only my gut feeling. Well it wasn't lingerie day, that is wednesday.
My last visit to Artemis was in 2014 and even at that time my impression was that it is over rated. Food, facilities, rooms, Line-up, service quality, value for money. So on my last visits to Berlin I skipped Artemis and waited until I got back to Frankfurt to hit the clubs.Have never visit Sharks but Oase was even worse than this Artemis visit when I was there late 2015. Palace had a decent selection of good looking girls at that time but extremely pushy, almost impossible to be polite when you have turned down the same twenty girls for the sixth time in three hours time. So Frankfurt is not on my to do list in the near future.
description of the types of girls present in Artemis now?I see a trend that tatoos are increasing and so is fakeness / barbie looks with more silicone and filled lips. I like this trend but most don't so I guess a portion of peoples perception of decline in quality is due to this trend?
WarmStone25
07-28-18, 21:50
I visited on the 16th. Really good weather. The outdoor area was well used but it was to hot for me to lie in the sun. I retreated to the down stairs bar intending to cool down and relax away from the girls for the first hour or so. Then this girl turned up at the bar and was talking to me. I felt my blood rise, but I was not ready for a girl. Nonetheless after 10 minutes we retired to a room. The session was short, sharp and intense. This happened to me on the last visit. After this I relaxed, for a while, not looking for a girl. Later I was looking for a girl, but could not hit on anyone. I began to feel frustrated. Many of the girls did not appear attractive to me. Something about the appearance I thought was artificial, particularly around the lips. After a while I met a girl as I came out of the downstairs Kino, at the bottom of the stairs. She had a nice natural looking face, Soon we were in the room, a good session ensued. Dissatisfaction with the line up may, have something to do with artificial looks. Maybe it was just the day or girls on holiday but I thought the line up was not as strong as on previous visits. My next visit will be next month on a Thursday.
Have never visit Sharks but Oase was even worse than this Artemis visit when I was there late 2015. Palace had a decent selection of good looking girls at that time but extremely pushy, almost impossible to be polite when you have turned down the same twenty girls for the sixth time in three hours time. So Frankfurt is not on my to do list in the near future.Currently with the upselling in Oase, Shark and other clubs, there is no big difference anymore in value for money with Artemis. When you go to clubs like Oase or Sharks where everybody knows you, you get better service vs a club they don't know you. True for most clubs. Currently, Artemis has a lot to offer, but again, it depends what you fancy. If you want the natural, new to the business, you will not find many in Artemis. The club is managed much better than Sharks and Oase. Tip top facilities and cleanliness, despite many silly tourists.
TheCanadian
07-29-18, 12:00
I will soon be heading to Artemis again. Does anyone know if Akira and Suna both Thai is still around? Or are there other Asian or Latin girls on the menu nowadays?Sorry for the late response. I can't recall names like Akira or Suna. However during my visit I saw one to two Thais, as well as a few other Asians and Latinas. I'd say the overall lineup had about 70 to 80% European WGs and the rest might be equally distributed to Asians and Latinas. A few Asians may not have the typical look, e. G. Elisa who looks more oriental.
Friday and Saturday could be the preferred days for spotting some (relatively) more Asians and Latinas. On other days one might see a comprised variety.
Member #4636
07-29-18, 20:20
. The club is managed much better than Sharks and Oase. Tip top facilities and cleanliness, despite many silly tourists.I don't know what you mean by saying better management but a selection of nice girls in their club should be a top priority for the management and I don't see that in Artemis. Not to mention the under average food or the lack of a non smoking area.
TeddyBears
07-29-18, 20:23
Currently with the upselling in Oase, Shark and other clubs, there is no big difference anymore in value for money with Artemis. When you go to clubs like Oase or Sharks where everybody knows you, you get better service vs a club they don't know you. True for most clubs. Currently, Artemis has a lot to offer, but again, it depends what you fancy. If you want the natural, new to the business, you will not find many in Artemis. The club is managed much better than Sharks and Oase. Tip top facilities and cleanliness, despite many silly tourists.I think you are spot on in your comments. Over the years spent in Artemis I have developed a 'deeper' relation with 12-15 girls that I try to see if possible, and as you write with these ladies I get better service then the average customer would get. On my visit last Tuesday I was unlucky because none of these girls were working, and this has never happened to me before.
I think we all understand the girls try to charge more if they can, after all it's about money not love for them. But and its a BIG but I wonder if it's not contra productive simply because if it's get to expensive then many of their customers will spend their money elsewhere. I for one will never spend €50 extra for bareback BJ, but I would accept to spend more time in the room to receive better service. I will be back in Berlin late November if price level stays the same by then, then I will probably not go back to Berlin and Artemis in a few years.
I don't know what you mean by saying better management but a selection of nice girls in their club should be a top priority for the management and I don't see that in Artemis. Not to mention the under average food or the lack of a non smoking area.Like I said, Artemis is not the place for the natural 18 years olds, but has many many beauties. Girls are a matter of taste. Artemis has an entire floor down stairs of non smoking, what in the world are you talking about? Please don't confuse with incorrect information. I don't really think much of what you see and don't as it seems like you have never been to Artemis when you say no non smoking area. Girls at Artemis are top notch, just no 18 years old that are new to the business. Artemis has two real issues: outdoor is not green (nice to have some grass), girls are more expensive. Is overall sharks for example more diverse, yes. But depends what one is searching.
I visited Artemis 2 years back. Is the general price per hour still 60 Euros for a 30 min fuck & suck or do you need to haggle with girls now?
UltraHappy
07-31-18, 12:29
Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:
https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/#more-704.
Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.
Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.
Member #4636
07-31-18, 13:24
Like I said, Artemis is not the place for the natural 18 years olds, but has many many beauties. Girls are a matter of taste. Artemis has an entire floor down stairs of non smoking, what in the world are you talking about? Please don't confuse with incorrect information. I don't really think much of what you see and don't as it seems like you have never been to Artemis when you say no non smoking area. Girls at Artemis are top notch, just no 18 years old that are new to the business. Artemis has two real issues: outdoor is not green (nice to have some grass), girls are more expensive. Is overall sharks for example more diverse, yes. But depends what one is searching.Yes there is a non smoking area downstairs but what do you prefer? To be downstairs watching the studs lying by the swimming pool but having some fresh air, or upstairs in the lounge where the fun is supposed to be with the girls but with all the smoke around you? And ohhh yes there is a non smoking area in the toilets as well!
To sum up my issue is not mainly the non smoking area but the service the club provides. It is one of the most expensive with low quality service, robot girls and shity food. I agree with you that at the end of the day it depends on what you are searching but I think the girls is in the top search for all of us. Palace in example has better girls but it lacks of an outdoor area. But I will take the girls first. I don't want to start a fight if Artemis is good or bad but for me it is history.
Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:
https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/#more-704.
Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.
Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.Super interesting. Thanks.
It gets too silly half way through. Couldn't finish reading it. Of course they are mainly right here, but the silliness is the framing by the activist groups and the labeling of words such as slavery. By this definition any job is slavery. And in a way it is. But then you cannot exclusively attack prostitution.
Coining it on rules set by management is probably the main problem I have with their approach. As if these rules are negative towards abuse, instead of positive towards integrity. Any job requires integrity, but the activist groups doesn't like integrity.
Unless of course they go too far with these rules. In Artemis's case they might have with one rule: no meeting with customers outside the club. But then again, the girl who told me of this rule could have been lying to me also. But those types of rules, probably made to avoid market loss should be attacked by the police. Just not with 900 policemen, LOL. A warning should suffice if that was it.
Now the girl who went to the cops probably had a story nobody can discuss here at least. And the media shouldn't even mention situations where information is classified due to the mass suggestion of assumptions it afflicts.
ExpatLover
07-31-18, 19:11
Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:
https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/#more-704.
Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.
Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.Just confirming what I am writing many times, this club is owned by the HA, behind the scene the things are far less sexy, like in all the clubs, only the very naive guys are still thinking that the girls are in the clubs because they like sex. The things are getting worse and worse, probably 80 percent of the girls are pimped, or married or have a stable BF.
ExpatLover
07-31-18, 19:12
Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:
https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/#more-704.
Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.
Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.Many mongers just believe the reality doesn't exist because they don't like this reality.
Polyamorist
07-31-18, 21:48
Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:
https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/#more-704.
Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.
Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.Al-salaam Sayyid Happy. Nice article. With all these raids in Germany, any other industry would have shrivelled up and died by now. Could it be that FKKs actually serve a real human need?
But I don't have much sympathy for Artemis. They were managing the girls so badly, long before the raids started. My favorite theory is that there was an important politician or big police chief who used to go there regularly for pleasure. Then the girls started to treat him disrespectfully as they did everybody else. One day he felt so humiliated that he ordered that a thousand cops descend on Artemis. I know that's the way I used to feel. (Fortunately for the world I don't possess that kind of power. My emotions would generally cool down after an hour or two anyway.).
Instead of trying to kill Artemis by force, they should let the competition thrive. It is insane that only one FKK is allowed to rule the roost in Berlin, which is twice as big as any other German city. And also insane that Artemis managed to do so badly even with its monopoly status.
ExpatLover
08-01-18, 05:48
Al-salaam Sayyid Happy. Nice article. With all these raids in Germany, any other industry would have shrivelled up and died by now. Could it be that FKKs actually serve a real human need?
But I don't have much sympathy for Artemis. They were managing the girls so badly, long before the raids started. My favorite theory is that there was an important politician or big police chief who used to go there regularly for pleasure. Then the girls started to treat him disrespectfully as they did everybody else. One day he felt so humiliated that he ordered that a thousand cops descend on Artemis. I know that's the way I used to feel. (Fortunately for the world I don't possess that kind of power. My emotions would generally cool down after an hour or two anyway.).
Instead of trying to kill Artemis by force, they should let the competition thrive. It is insane that only one FKK is allowed to rule the roost in Berlin, which is twice as big as any other German city. And also insane that Artemis managed to do so badly even with its monopoly status.I don't believe that they are getting any protection it is just impossible in many European countries, probably half of the clubs will close in Germany in the coming 5 years. No politician will take the risk to be seen visiting a FKK.
Rogue Nation
08-01-18, 13:22
With all these raids in Germany, any other industry would have shrivelled up and died by now. German customs, authorities and police are performing dozens of checks / controls around labor regulations in many industries every day. Especially on construction sites they will check workers for their permission to work, their legal status, being self-employed or not and if they are paid minimum wage. So no, those raids are not specific for the P6 industry. But those make better headlines.
FormulaOneFan
08-01-18, 13:55
After a 15 mos absence from Berlin I took an afternoon trip to Artemis this afternoon. Yes, a hot Weds afternoon isn't the best time to attend, but it was my only free time this trip. Slim selection of ladies, but I found two worth sessioning with.
Jane, claims to be German, 30's, with reasonable sized silicones and a tight slim figure. BBBJ was an extra 50, but included kissing and DATY. Good unrushed room on a hot afternoon.
Forget the name of the second girl; says she's Iranian but born in Hamburg. Same as above; 50 e extra for BBBJ, kissing, and DATY, but a nice no upsell session beyond the tariff for what used to be standard.
I'll keep Frankfurt and Dusseldorf as my primary German destination, but for a quick afternoon delight, not too bad.
FoF.
Yes there is a non smoking area downstairs but what do you prefer? To be downstairs watching the studs lying by the swimming pool but having some fresh air, or upstairs in the lounge where the fun is supposed to be with the girls but with all the smoke around you? And ohhh yes there is a non smoking area in the toilets as well!
To sum up my issue is not mainly the non smoking area but the service the club provides. It is one of the most expensive with low quality service, robot girls and shity food. I agree with you that at the end of the day it depends on what you are searching but I think the girls is in the top search for all of us. Palace in example has better girls but it lacks of an outdoor area. But I will take the girls first. I don't want to start a fight if Artemis is good or bad but for me it is history.Information should be provided by those who know what they are talking about. 6 of current Artemis girls moved in the recent year from Palace. Another 4-6 girls are there from Hamburg clubs. Another 6-7 girls previously worked in clubs like GT and LR. And, we have two from world and Oase as well as girls from Sharks. These are top quality girls mostly. What do I prefer doesn't matter, it matters what other people prefer, I just give them accurate information.
[Deleted by Admin] Toilets are not as huge as the downstairs area. No different almost from Oase non smoking area (the small area in the lounge is kind of mixed). So information should be provided by people who know what they are talking about regarding a certain club, you are not one of those people. Artemis girls lie oiled in the sun and swim in the pool (4-8 girls depending on the day). The go downstairs regularly to pick up guys from the cinema and wellness area. It is not a fight it is just addressing and correcting your misleading non sense, so people that actually like that type of girls and don't mind the added cost, don't miss out on a great experience.
Bussani492
08-01-18, 21:17
Visited on Saturday night (29 July) and met an awesome brunette. She said her name was Jay, 27 years old, and from the Middle East but I can't remember if she got more specific than that. She's tallish with a tight body, nice ass, beautiful medium-big natural tits with pierced nipples, and filled lips. She was sweet and a real pro and the sex was great. After a short blowjob we fucked cowgirl, missionary, and doggie. Has anyone else met her or knows anything more about her? Would love to see her again.
Next was a Dominican girl with humongous natural tits and a terrific ass. I think her name was Maria? (Or maybe Salome? Or her friend's name was Salome?) Can't remember, I should've paid more attention. She was kind of a pain in the ass, constantly trying to upsell. I must have said no ten times. But I'm a sucker for huge tits so I went for it. No regrets but wouldn't repeat, once was enough.
Had to head home early but good day overall.
TeddyBears
08-01-18, 23:21
FormulaOneFan.
The Iranian girl from Hamburg is probably Lara, she wanted me to pay €250 for an hour everything included I declined her proposal.
Thank you for your advise haven't thought about that before! Cologne has a few clubs as well, do you or anyone else know if they are worth a visit?Didn't see this question before now as I checked up on my last posts in the thread (pretty sure I posted one that is not around where I mentionned around 20 artemis girls I have seen at palace / sharks / gt / paradise. So the type of girls are almost identical to these other clubs. Sharks may have slightly different girl crowds, but the other 3 are like a mirror).
In cologne I have only been to Samya, and its ok. Many western guys enjoy the party atmosphere at Samya. Especially Americans for some reason. It reminds me of the American customer oriented gogo's in Angeles, philippines kinda. For me as a European, I consider other clubs atmosphere slightly better. But with rental car from cologne, both dusseldorf and the entire nrw plus hessen is very close. The drive from cologne airport to sharks is at 1 h 52 m on google maps. But you can beat that time by 7 minutes or so.
FormulaOneFan
08-02-18, 18:05
FormulaOneFan.
The Iranian girl from Hamburg is probably Lara, she wanted me to pay 250 for an hour everything included I declined her proposal.That sounds right. She didn't proposition me for that much money though, but it was early afternoon on a slow hot afternoon.
ExpatLover
08-02-18, 18:16
That sounds right. She didn't proposition me for that much money though, but it was early afternoon on a slow hot afternoon.If anal is included it is not a bad deal.
ExpatLover
08-02-18, 18:23
FormulaOneFan.
The Iranian girl from Hamburg is probably Lara, she wanted me to pay 250 for an hour everything included I declined her proposal.Probably a Turkish girl like many, I don t believe there is any Iranian girl in a FKK, so many cheating girls around.
That sounds right. She didn't proposition me for that much money though, but it was early afternoon on a slow hot afternoon.She normally offers an hour for 200, all included. And, yes has to be Lara as her prices are the most agressive in the club along with one other girl who charges the BBBJ 50 extra for every half hour.
Lara's service isn't great and she comes from palace. Normally, palace girls can give excellent service for the right money, but IMO not that one.
FormulaOneFan
08-04-18, 06:36
She normally offers an hour for 200, all included. And, yes has to be Lara as her prices are the most agressive in the club along with one other girl who charges the BBBJ 50 extra for every half hour.
Lara's service isn't great and she comes from palace. Normally, palace girls can give excellent service for the right money, but IMO not that one.Generally I play the longer game and scope out the talent more thoroughly before selecting, but I was on a short timeframe so I didn't have time to be super duper picky. Service was fine overall though with both ladies;. Better than just a suck and fuck session, but far from the best.
Generally I play the longer game and scope out the talent more thoroughly before selecting, but I was on a short timeframe so I didn't have time to be super duper picky. Service was fine overall though with both ladies;. Better than just a suck and fuck session, but far from the best.She isn't bad, just not worth so much money and is a bit distant in the room. She does do a good job in the pick up stage, which can be misleading. I fell for it, so LOL. But no repeat. For that kind of money, it is possible to find great sessions with real beauties in Artemis as well as in most other clubs. But in Berlin Artemis is the only club choice.
FormulaOneFan
08-05-18, 07:28
She isn't bad, just not worth so much money and is a bit distant in the room. She does do a good job in the pick up stage, which can be misleading. I fell for it, so LOL. But no repeat. For that kind of money, it is possible to find great sessions with real beauties in Artemis as well as in most other clubs. But in Berlin Artemis is the only club choice.Yep, Artemis is the only FKK game in town for Berlin, so you take what you can get. My usual stomping grounds are Sharks and Oase in Frankfurt and I have many regulars at those clubs that give solid sessions with no drama or upsell. Considering I had a small window of time, I'm happy with the outcome. .
The regular entry fee will be reduced to only 60 euros on 20th and 21th of August 2 k18.
Nice to know I know. But without a guarantee.
250/200 € an hour. We are far from the 120€ for an hour. It seems things are changing.
I'll see it by myself at the end of the month and probably go in a room with a regular one if the upsells are crazy with the new ones.
250/200 an hour. We are far from the 120 for an hour. It seems things are changing.
I'll see it by myself at the end of the month and probably go in a room with a regular one if the upsells are crazy with the new ones.Things have changed, of course. But 200/250 an hour is the high point for everything included and still high. You can do 120 no extras. Or 170 with 1 extra that is for some people crucial.
FlyByCable
08-14-18, 18:47
I will be in Dresden the 29 of August, I can see that Artemis has a Pool party that day, do you guys think it can be worth the two hours of driving to Berlin for a visit.
I have never before visit Artemis for such "party" day.
Don't know if it's good or bad.
In fact it's more than two years since my last visit at Artemis.
YetAnotherGuy
08-15-18, 18:44
I spent three days at Artemis in mid July and enjoyed it. The facilities are very nice, with two pools (outdoor and indoor). Compared with Oase, Samya, Sharks, and GT-Vienna, the lineup is more varied internationally (girls from all over), though a bit older. The average age for the girls I chose was probably 26. It wasn't my favorite club for lineup (Samya and Oase were), but it also wasn't my least favorite (surprisingly, Sharks was). I had fun and it broadened my perspective about suitable girls.
I will be in Dresden the 29 of August, I can see that Artemis has a Pool party that day, do you guys think it can be worth the two hours of driving to Berlin for a visit.
I have never before visit Artemis for such "party" day.
Don't know if it's good or bad.
In fact it's more than two years since my last visit at Artemis.If you are set on an FKK day, the yes, it is worth the drive, especially considering the alternatives in Dresden.
Can you give us more info on the number of germans and the number of all-natural big-boobers (D+)?
I spent three days at Artemis in mid July and enjoyed it. The facilities are very nice, with two pools (outdoor and indoor). Compared with Oase, Samya, Sharks, and GT-Vienna, the lineup is more varied internationally (girls from all over), though a bit older. The average age for the girls I chose was probably 26. It wasn't my favorite club for lineup (Samya and Oase were), but it also wasn't my least favorite (surprisingly, Sharks was). I had fun and it broadened my perspective about suitable girls.
I will be in Dresden the 29 of August, I can see that Artemis has a Pool party that day, do you guys think it can be worth the two hours of driving to Berlin for a visit.
I have never before visit Artemis for such "party" day.
Don't know if it's good or bad.
In fact it's more than two years since my last visit at Artemis.What a coincidence. I will be there also same date. I sent PM.
What to say about Artemis these days? I do wonder why the club seems unable to attract more girls. A club like this with such a massive customer base should be a magnet to girls wanting to make money. But somehow it isn't, and average age continues to rise. There are a few doable girls around still, but I just don't see why this club isn't booming more than it does in terms of lineup.
When that is said, girls at Artemis seems to strictly follow the CBJ game now. With +50 e for the BBBJ. And I did a room at Artemis this time that was so bad I was wondering afterwards how I really could have hated my money so much! (Turk German girl) It was on a Monday with limited lineup at least. On Wednesday it was markably better, and I could avoid the mines more easily.
The regular entry fee will be reduced to only 60 euros on 20th and 21th of August 2 k18.
Nice to know I know. But without a guarantee.Are you talking about Artemis here? Because it surely was the old rates on entry on Monday 20th Aug. Unless I got scammed by receptionist.
What to say about Artemis these days? I do wonder why the club seems unable to attract more girls. A club like this with such a massive customer base should be a magnet to girls wanting to make money. But somehow it isn't, and average age continues to rise. There are a few doable girls around still, but I just don't see why this club isn't booming more than it does in terms of lineup.Maybe the fact that Artemis got busted by police big time and girls do not want to be involved in such event where it is risk for exposure about their job as prostitute which a lot of time girls family do not know that she is prostitute.
Plus many fly in clients stop going there due to too much up sell and bad line up.
Artemis got all the negative spiral now.
Maybe the fact that Artemis got busted by police big time and girls do not want to be involved in such event where it is risk for exposure about their job as prostitute which a lot of time girls family do not know that she is prostitute.
Plus many fly in clients stop going there due to too much up sell and bad line up.
Artemis got all the negative spiral now.Artemis has strict rules regarding which girls can work there, must talk German, if they sleep in the club, OK otherwise must be registered and show documents. Must get checked every 3 months. Also, Artemis doesn't have a client base, that would imply regular customer, which Artemis doesn't have so many. Artemis cater to tourist. The LU is great, it just doesn't cater to those that search 18-20 year old. Artemis is not in any sort of downward spiral, I am not sure when you last visited, but it is doing pretty well. The only thing is that fresh meet is not readily available on the menu.
Maybe, but these things usually normalise over time.
Are you talking about Artemis here? Because it surely was the old rates on entry on Monday 20th Aug. Unless I got scammed by receptionist.I'm selling my soul just for a post. Other guys know better then me about doing so. Why should I talk about FKK "Tralala" in the Artemis thread?
Last week I've read on "Fkk24. De" the information that the bar area is going to be upgraded / renovated on the dates I mentioned and because of that the bar is out of use these two days. And since Artemis is, no matter what some say, at least a bit customer orientated the entry fee was going to be reduced.
Since these two particular days are past, the information isn't online anymore. I am looking like a shameless liar now. "Oops"!
If you didn't recognize that some work was going on, then the renovation was cancelled, or shifted, or was already been done, or I was fooled by "Fkk24. De". I don't know. But since management is reading they could lighten up the confusion. If they see a reason to do so.
I don't think that you were scammed. But of course I hope you didn't traveled all the way to Berlin to save 20. But out of your reports you were successful in having fun and even returned two days later again.
Member #4636
08-23-18, 17:27
Maybe the fact that Artemis got busted by police big time and girls do not want to be involved in such event where it is risk for exposure about their job as prostitute which a lot of time girls family do not know that she is prostitute.
Plus many fly in clients stop going there due to too much up sell and bad line up.
Artemis got all the negative spiral now.It is more like a cheap (regarding quality) super market of average girls. The last time I went (been twice) it was even worse than first, the LU was very poor with a lot of upselling, the food sucked and the showers where under construction so you had to keep walking down the stairs to get washed. The girls provided bad quality, not to mention that they all do blow jobs without condoms. This is what they told me when I mentioned that it is not allowed. Worst club I have ever been with the most expensive entrance and the worst value. And now I know someone is going to pop up telling me again I don't know what I am talking about.
WarmStone25
08-23-18, 20:23
I visited again on the 18th, a Thursday. The line up was better than last time, on a Teusday. There were a good number of girls with good figures. The line up got better as the evening progressed. I was getting ready to leave about 20.00 hrs, and was just enjoying the general ambience and watching the action when an attractive blond with a statuesque figure turned up. Initially I mistook her for another blond girl (Czech), with a similar figure. I had already had two good sessions and thought that my visit was about over. This blond came over to me and she was warm and encouraging (half German). This was to good to miss so I invited her to a room. Another good session. I never experienced any upsell in my visit. If I politely declined a girl, she took it well. I enjoy the outdoor and indoor facilities at Artemis. Artemis was designed and constructed for the purpose for which it is used. This may be a unique feature among FKK's. I liked the new showers. I went to the restaurant at 18.00 hrs and the food was good. A selection of beef, chicken or lamb, with suitable accompaniments was offered. For me, Artemis continues to be a good place to pick up girls.
I'm selling my soul just for a post. Other guys know better then me about doing so. Why should I talk about FKK "Tralala" in the Artemis thread?
Last week I've read on "Fkk24. De" the information that the bar area is going to be upgraded / renovated on the dates I mentioned and because of that the bar is out of use these two days. And since Artemis is, no matter what some say, at least a bit customer orientated the entry fee was going to be reduced.
Since these two particular days are past, the information isn't online anymore. I am looking like a shameless liar now. "Oops"!
If you didn't recognize that some work was going on, then the renovation was cancelled, or shifted, or was already been done, or I was fooled by "Fkk24. De". I don't know. But since management is reading they could lighten up the confusion. If they see a reason to do so.
I don't think that you were scammed. But of course I hope you didn't traveled all the way to Berlin to save 20. But out of your reports you were successful in having fun and even returned two days later again.I didn't say you were lying, it just seemed a bit odd.
There were no renovations, although one girl mentioned to me that she was hoping for new lockers. The girls still have the old ones, while us customers have brand new ones since a few months ago it seems.
I returned 5 days later, and not 2. If I had based anything off of my Monday visit, I would have gone sightseeing instead, or to some weird Berlin kink club (LOL). My Wednesday visit was however quite good indeed.
It is more like a cheap (regarding quality) super market of average girls. The last time I went (been twice) it was even worse than first, the LU was very poor with a lot of upselling, the food sucked and the showers where under construction so you had to keep walking down the stairs to get washed. The girls provided bad quality, not to mention that they all do blow jobs without condoms. This is what they told me when I mentioned that it is not allowed. Worst club I have ever been with the most expensive entrance and the worst value. And now I know someone is going to pop up telling me again I don't know what I am talking about.In matter of personal preference, you can't be wrong as it is subjective. Artemis is probably the most expensive club with Germany, so value for money is, again, subjective. But, you are not a frequent visitor, so your sample size is not significant enough to reflect club culture. For me the worst club ATM is Palace prices are either in line or more expensive. 5 euro entry difference is negligible. The facility itself in Artemis is great and clean. Girls are a matter of taste, like mentioned before not many 18-22 year old. At the moment, Artemis is a little more expensive: 15 euro entry and 10 euro per half hour over other clubs. For two hours in total in the room, that's 55 euro more per visit, not to bad for me. But need to know how to get that golden extra with no charge and then you are fine. You want guaranteed service and guaranteed good time, go to globe.
Member #4636
08-24-18, 16:26
In matter of personal preference, you can't be wrong as it is subjective. Artemis is probably the most expensive club with Germany, so value for money is, again, subjective. But, you are not a frequent visitor, so your sample size is not significant enough to reflect club culture. For me the worst club ATM is Palace prices are either in line or more expensive. 5 euro entry difference is negligible. The facility itself in Artemis is great and clean. Girls are a matter of taste, like mentioned before not many 18-22 year old. At the moment, Artemis is a little more expensive: 15 euro entry and 10 euro per half hour over other clubs. For two hours in total in the room, that's 55 euro more per visit, not to bad for me. But need to know how to get that golden extra with no charge and then you are fine. You want guaranteed service and guaranteed good time, go to globe.I forgot to say in previous posts that the most beautiful girl in the club is a brunette working in the bar. She was so beautiful and sweet I was sitting in the bar staring at her for an hour. I kept ordering drinks just to look at me. I told her she was the best in the club and she smiled. I wish she was in the LU.
ExpatLover
08-24-18, 20:10
I forgot to say in previous posts that the most beautiful girl in the club is a brunette working in the bar. She was so beautiful and sweet I was sitting in the bar staring at her for an hour. I kept ordering drinks just to look at me. I told her she was the best in the club and she smiled. I wish she was in the LU.I think that you don t sessioned her, this is the life today in the clubs the most beautiful girls are not the prostitutes'
I forgot to say in previous posts that the most beautiful girl in the club is a brunette working in the bar. She was so beautiful and sweet I was sitting in the bar staring at her for an hour. I kept ordering drinks just to look at me. I told her she was the best in the club and she smiled. I wish she was in the LU.She is beautiful. If that is your type, then Artemis is not for you. She is Romanian. Looks a little German.
Sebastiane
08-25-18, 09:20
Artemis should be the best major club in Germany- but its one of the worst! It is in Berlin which is probably Europe's- if not the world's- best city for partying. I love Berlin. Artemis is centrally located and easy to get to by public transport. It even has a higher entry fee and is 60/30. To be fair when I first went there about 5 years ago the beauty level of the girls were as good as at any other major club (see my report from back then) and the atmosphere was probably the best party atmosphere. It still has a great party atmosphere at the long bar (I'd visit it now for that and for the outside jacuzzi and pool and it's wellness facilities). Unfortunately the main reason FKKs exist is for sex with beautiful girls and that is what, in my eyes at least, has been sorely missing from Artemis for the last 3 times went there. The upselling doesn't bother me as it happens in every German club to some extent, but the problem is the average girl here is more likely to be a woman in her mid 30's with plastic tits and loads of tattoos who has been in this business for a decade and is like a washed up boxer who used to be good! I don't want to pay 60/30 for girls I wouldn't even date for free. ! Of course, that's the average girl so there will be *some* attractive girls who are under 30 - preferably under 25 - slim, natural breasts, very little tattoos; the problem is many of these tend to be booked or you have to spend a lot of time trying to find them.
Would I visit Artemis next time I am in Berlin? Possibly especially in summer just for the fun party atmosphere but I'd probably visit one of the brothels or get an escort beforehand! If some beautiful slim young 20 year old Romanian did come to Artemis she would be the undisputed queen and could make a lot of money- so I wonder why that doesn't happen? The management of Artemis should take a look at Sharks, Oase, Palace, or even go to any of the Hamburg clubs or pop in to Globe and have a look at the kind of girls high-paying mongers like.
Delta Indigo
08-25-18, 17:26
Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.
Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?
Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.
Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?Have not seen her in Artemis, not recently and not at all. Why do you think she is there?
Artemis should be the best major club in Germany- but its one of the worst! It is in Berlin which is probably Europe's- if not the world's- best city for partying. I love Berlin. Artemis is centrally located and easy to get to by public transport. It even has a higher entry fee and is 60/30. To be fair when I first went there about 5 years ago the beauty level of the girls were as good as at any other major club (see my report from back then) and the atmosphere was probably the best party atmosphere. It still has a great party atmosphere at the long bar (I'd visit it now for that and for the outside jacuzzi and pool and it's wellness facilities). Unfortunately the main reason FKKs exist is for sex with beautiful girls and that is what, in my eyes at least, has been sorely missing from Artemis for the last 3 times went there..Personal opinion is understandable. And, true, Artemis doesn't have many girls of that type you mention. But the extreme statement is also not true, most girls are not mid 30's. Also, that type wouldn't be a star there, it is a tourist club and a club for mostly young tourists, and this they like that look. Now many many girls at the moment relocated from Heesen and NRW clubs. Also, you can group Sharks and Palace as similar clubs or Globe. You are mixing oil and water. Palace is the mother of all porn star girls. Sharks has a healthy mix tending towards the natural girls. Just a false statement.
Granted Artemis is the exact opposite of sharks for girls type (less naturals). Artemis is also very strict with girls documentation rules and other clubs less. I can tell you for a fact that not all clubs check registration of girls. Therefore, they can get different types.
You can find everything in Artemis, just some things are scars. The upselling is the issue. But you don't care, I don't also. I don't like that it is full with tourists that want to party. It kills the relax atmosphere.
I also result to privates when I have nothing to do in the club, but I do that in sharks too, so. It really isn't that bad. Especially, in current times where girls from all over come to Artemis. You project a point in time of a visit (s) onto always.
Rogue Nation
08-25-18, 19:14
Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.
Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?I thought she only had a short stint at Artemis. Last time I saw her was at Palace before summer, probably May or June.
I thought she only had a short stint at Artemis. Last time I saw her was at Palace before summer, probably May or June.I even asked today one girls who was friendly with her in sharks and she didn't know what I was talking about. Last I know was also palace.
Swedish guy who gave me his card that I lost due to stolen robe last Tuesday 11 days ago, please PM me. Yes I know I said I don't write here, LOL. (I guess you are someone here).
Member #4636
08-26-18, 11:30
Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.
Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?I did a session with her in Artemis about a month ago.
I was in Artemis last week end. From my point of view, the LU was poorer than before, maybe this is an effect of leaving of many German Women or summer period. I talked with a German woman who told me 70% of the pool are made of Romanian and Bulgarian women. Thus it tends to be like the other German clubs. I met a pretty German blonde woman who offered me a 30 min package at 100 euros. I replied that I preferred the standard one, because I'd like to see other women. She said OK and the session was good. I globally spent less than before in the club as and I felt bored in the middle of the night.
I was in Artemis last week end. From my point of view, the LU was poorer than before, maybe this is an effect of leaving of many German Women or summer period. I talked with a German woman who told me 70% of the pool are made of Romanian and Bulgarian women. Thus it tends to be like the other German clubs. I met a pretty German blonde woman who offered me a 30 min package at 100 euros. I replied that I preferred the standard one, because I'd like to see other women. She said OK and the session was good. I globally spent less than before in the club as and I felt bored in the middle of the night.
I went Wed night, It was Pool Party night. All the girls were in bikinis. The 80 cover incl 2 mixed drinks. They had BBQ also, but only chicken and Pork. This was my first visit to Artemis. For the size of this place, I was expecting more Women. There were some very good looking ladies. I eventually picked a very sexy Romanian Babe. Had lots of fun in the room with her, all the usual acronyms incl. Very expensive night with the cover and the extras in the room.
ExpatLover
08-31-18, 12:59
I was in Artemis last week end. From my point of view, the LU was poorer than before, maybe this is an effect of leaving of many German Women or summer period. I talked with a German woman who told me 70% of the pool are made of Romanian and Bulgarian women. Thus it tends to be like the other German clubs. I met a pretty German blonde woman who offered me a 30 min package at 100 euros. I replied that I preferred the standard one, because I'd like to see other women. She said OK and the session was good. I globally spent less than before in the club as and I felt bored in the middle of the night.To get bored happen to many of us, that it is why I enjoy a lot the sauna, and I am extremely selective for the girls, even I can easily leave without any session, so easy to return the next day for me.
Member #4636
08-31-18, 14:15
I went Wed night, It was Pool Party night. All the girls were in bikinis. The 80 cover incl 2 mixed drinks. They had BBQ also, but only chicken and Pork. This was my first visit to Artemis. For the size of this place, I was expecting more Women. There were some very good looking ladies. I eventually picked a very sexy Romanian Babe. Had lots of fun in the room with her, all the usual acronyms incl. Very expensive night with the cover and the extras in the room.How much did you pay for all the usual acronyms incl?
Delta Indigo
08-31-18, 17:46
I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.
I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.I stopped going to Artemis in 2015, it is a shame because from 2009 till 2014 ish, Artemis was good club, but after that line up is left with old tattoo plastic surgery girls with too heavy up sell.
Rogue Nation
08-31-18, 21:38
I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.Same conclusion I came to a couple of years ago. Stick to it.
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I stopped going to Artemis in 2015, it is a shame because from 2009 till 2014 ish, Artemis was good club, but after that line up is left with old tattoo plastic surgery girls with too heavy up sell.Call me Mrs. Ho honey. You forgot your visit in December 2016 again.
I saw both of them during first week of December, so they are still in the game, but I do not know if they are currently there now, sorry.And this one in 2017.
Well I am going in two weeks in February, so I hope LU is back from holiday then.
How much did you pay for all the usual acronyms incl?170 for the hour.
I actually like 'fake' looking girls and MILFs. Were there any curvy / big butt (not fat girls last time when you've been at Artemis?
I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs.
So this is how wide, taste can differ.
Now to the behaviour below:
Please guys, let's do each other a favor and call out those ladies:
A) Here with name and description. Let's put an "AVOID Monika (or whatever her chosen nickname is)" into the subject. And describe what happened briefly.
ALSO.
B) go to the desk / reception and tell your bad experience with the girl. Many receptions will tend to trust customers, esp if some girls are often accused of bad service. This way the desk can simply refuse entrance to them. They will do it to avoid any long-term damage to the club.
I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.
Member #4636
09-02-18, 07:38
I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs..I am not so sure that the management will support the customer if he complains. I have heard about stories when he is usually kicked out of the club.
I did a session with her in Artemis about a month ago.Was in Artemis 3 days this week. She was not there. Had a chat with reception who checked the log and said she was not and isn't there. If she was there by chance, then it was just a day or two.
Delta Indigo
09-02-18, 10:28
I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs.
So this is how wide, taste can differ.
Now to the behaviour below:
Please guys, let's do each other a favor and call out those ladies:
A) Here with name and description. Let's put an "AVOID Monika (or whatever her chosen nickname is)" into the subject. And describe what happened briefly.
ALSO.
B) go to the desk / reception and tell your bad experience with the girl. Many receptions will tend to trust customers, esp if some girls are often accused of bad service. This way the desk can simply refuse entrance to them. They will do it to avoid any long-term damage to the club.This is of course my point of view, however I have been to quite a few clubs over the last 6 years through out Germany. So I can compare with many other places and I have been to Artemis in the past during 2014 and 2016 when in my opinion it was a lot better.
It was not only this girl whose name I did not catch, she was the only one I sessioned with, I did get a bad vibe from a lot of the girls and this comes from experience. I met a very pretty Brazilian German girl who seemed nice I asked her if she kissed, straight out no, I asked her about BBBJ, and she said straight out no, not even for an additional charge.
Looks are in the eye of the beholder, although I do not strictly agree with this, however service levels are more easily to compare and Artemis is a lot worse than other clubs in general and it has deteriorated quite a bit.
I do not know the extent of your experiences in FKK land, but a lot of experienced mongers tend to agree on this one.
Of course you can have a good time at any club provided you find the right girl and in the past I was there for hours late into the night and I found the right person and it was good, at that time I used to wonder why people gave Artemis a bad rap.
Let me summarize why, because all things being equal, the average service level sucks compared to other clubs, I have been to Oase and Palace in Frankfurt and it was a lot better at both every single time than this time at Artemis.
So I think you are mistaken and it is not the matter of the odd girl but a certain service culture that this club perpetuates. Some people pay bundles and then report great experiences, well that is not a fair comparison. I like comparing 50 Euro 30 min sessions to 50 Euro 30 minute sessions (I know Artemis is more) and 100 Euro 1 hour sessions to 100 Euro 1 hour sessions.
Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on.
Black dyed hair, very thin a bit loose skin, 32 years old, tattoos all over the place, a small but flabby ass, which she had managed to conceal from me. I chose too hastily and could only be there a short time. But the vibe was not at all good. Normally I think I would not have fallen for her approach. Oh well, I can make the odd mistake.
In comparison, in all my times in Sharks, I have had only one bad experience out of maybe 12 different girls.
Another bad sign is that if a girl was in Switzerland, she told she had been there for a short time, and did not last long there, that usually means she did not fit the bill for Swiss service standards.
HungryStud101
09-02-18, 16:45
Good report Delta.
If this shit keeps up, the new sex dolls are going to make Artemis obsolete. Thanks you as I was considering trying it out as an excuse to see Berlin. Fuck that place.
Member #4636
09-02-18, 16:57
Good report Delta.
If this shit keeps up, the new sex dolls are going to make Artemis obsolete. Thanks you as I was considering trying it out as an excuse to see Berlin. Fuck that place.According to all recent reviews including my experience (twice) the place really sucks. So many people can't be wrong.
Artemis kicks them out directly if a client will say he had that offer or BBBJ service. True, Artemis, is more expensive than most clubs in Germany. I think comparing 30 min for 60 euro at Artemis to 30 minutes for 50 euros in other clubs as Artemis does not charge 50 euros, but 60 euros. True, in other clubs your chances are better to get good service for 30 minutes, but not as high as they used to be. Kissing and BBBJ service starts at 100 normally. 30 minutes clients have no reason to go to Artemis. No chance to get good service. And, they are not likely to get great service anywhere unless they are repeat clients that girls know. To enjoy Artemis, you must be a 1 HR client and be willing to pay 120 - 200 euro, depending on the girl. With Romanians one has greater chances for good service for 120-150 euro. Germans, no less than 150, if you are lucky. For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. Artemis is a great club for certain type of clients. Also True, it was better 2 years ago, price wise and service, again, it depends what type of client you are. That said, being better two years ago doesn't make it bad now. This is a tourist place. BTW, Sharks and Oase were much better two years ago as well. World improved marginally after a huge decline, but far away from the 3 years ago level. Clubs are declining and that is a trend and a fact. If you are a 50 euro client, go to World, best chances for good service. Artemis should be evaluated based on that standard as it is not a 50 euro or a half type of club. Even at smaller clubs like Harmony, you will pay 100 for 30 minutes of good service and still, you should do a DD on the girl before because if you are a tourist, she might pull a fast one on you. Cheers.
ExpatLover
09-02-18, 18:59
I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs.
So this is how wide, taste can differ.
Now to the behaviour below:
Please guys, let's do each other a favor and call out those ladies:
A) Here with name and description. Let's put an "AVOID Monika (or whatever her chosen nickname is)" into the subject. And describe what happened briefly.
ALSO.
B) go to the desk / reception and tell your bad experience with the girl. Many receptions will tend to trust customers, esp if some girls are often accused of bad service. This way the desk can simply refuse entrance to them. They will do it to avoid any long-term damage to the club.If a Asian guy living in Australian is telling it, it must be true like the existence of Jesus. I have nothing to add with my only 700 FKK visits in most of the clubs in Germany.
Louie De Palma
09-03-18, 00:09
"Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on. ".
Interesting review. I will be frequenting the Berlin scene on a very regular basis over many years to come. So, if this is the status of Artemis now, I will certainly avoid this place, even though I loved it back in 2007 and the following years. If management is hell-bent on destroying their own business, nobody can save them. I'll try Kaufmich or whatever escort agency is around.
I had a chance to visit Berlin earlier this summer. Sessioned with Lydia and later Amy, giving them each an hour. Not sure what Lydia is; probably Romanian, maybe Hungarian, not German though. Skinny and cute in a mousy sort of way with dark hair and glasses and a kind of squeaky voice. Amy says she is German and from Stuttgart. Blonde, pretty, lean, and natural. Overall great body. Not a price gouger. I'd been with both on a previous trip last year but didn't remember how I liked either of them and didn't even realize I'd had Amy before until I approached her and she insisted I was familiar.
Lydia was nothing special; pretty unenthusiastic. Probably won't repeat again unless I'm desperate for options.
Amy was great though. If I had her last year I'm surprised I don't remember. Maybe she considers me a repeat customer now and gave me a better performance than before. Really felt like a good GFE with her initiating round 2 before I even thought I was ready. I actually went back a couple days later just for another hour with her and it was another great session.
I know there's a lot of unhappiness here about the LU and I have to agree for the most part. The only reason I decided to share today is because I think Amy is an excellent counter-example to a lot of the complaints, but probably the only one.
Why are you reviewing non stop other member's posts? Write you own reports if you have a different story. You are not going to change their opinion. And to say other members are lying is argumentative. People sometime confuses names, time, day or wherever.
A3
Why are you reviewing non stop other member's posts? Write you own reports if you have a different story. You are not going to change their opinion. And to say other members are lying is argumentative. People sometime confuses names, time, day or wherever.
A3Because people lie to make a point. They don't know a girl or visit a club once in a blue moon and provide bad reputation or false information. False information is why I write what I write. Is that not the reason we are writing here? To review and provide fellow poster correct information?
Do that but in a better way. Not offending others.
A3
Anyone seen Avril at Artemis lately? She's a skinny, pale Romanian with dyed red hair.
Because people lie to make a point. They don't know a girl or visit a club once in a blue moon and provide bad reputation or false information. False information is why I write what I write. Is that not the reason we are writing here? To review and provide fellow poster correct information?
Do that but in a better way. Not offending others.
A3I believe in being blunt. False posters are the worst, but I don't want to have this discussion anymore. It is what it is.
170 for the hour.That's a good price to a great time in a one hour session at Artemis. Some girls don't room for 50, but for 150, the give heavenly service. The alternative is privates where girls charge 150-200 an hour. At least here, we can talk and choose. Paid double this in Globe last month, but can't beat the service at Globe. Worth every penny.
ExpatLover
09-05-18, 05:23
"Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on. ".
Interesting review. I will be frequenting the Berlin scene on a very regular basis over many years to come. So, if this is the status of Artemis now, I will certainly avoid this place, even though I loved it back in 2007 and the following years. If management is hell-bent on destroying their own business, nobody can save them. I'll try Kaufmich or whatever escort agency is around.The Hell Angels are managing the club, and they have other problems today that Artemis.
VonderJohn
09-05-18, 18:36
For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. .Okay, fine, I'll spend 200 euros for 1. 5 hours. But are we going to spend these 1. 5 hours in the room? Certainly I won't do that. I've seen a number of clients enjoy their lady for like 30 minutes before going to the room, then go to the room for another 30 minutes, have a shot or two, then spend another 30 minutes enjoying her in the bar. I'm not sure what kind of service this is. Is it the GF experience? What should I exactly tell the lady if this is what I want? (enjoying the 1. 5 hours around Artemis with her, not just in the room. Maybe in the kino and on the bar too).
Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?
Member #4636
09-05-18, 20:23
Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?There are some ladies that are booked for hours for some clients. Usually they are very beautiful and have this diva attitude drinking only champagne etc. I met one of these ladies in Palace. She was booked for 8-9 hours to a company of 2-3 men, every 2-3 hours one was fucking her for maybe 20 minutes and all other time was spent in the bar drinking and pretending they are having a 'fun party' time. So yes I guess they also sell a bar GFE experience to customers but not all of them, it depends to the girl.
Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?I wish "the sex part" only took me 15 minutes, I would save a bloody fortune!
Okay, fine, I'll spend 200 euros for 1. 5 hours. But are we going to spend these 1. 5 hours in the room? Certainly I won't do that. I've seen a number of clients enjoy their lady for like 30 minutes before going to the room, then go to the room for another 30 minutes, have a shot or two, then spend another 30 minutes enjoying her in the bar. I'm not sure what kind of service this is. Is it the GF experience? What should I exactly tell the lady if this is what I want? (enjoying the 1. 5 hours around Artemis with her, not just in the room. Maybe in the kino and on the bar too).
Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?It depends what you like in the room. Not all people take only 15 minutes. But, I can tell you that a 1.5 hour session involve maximum wasted 10 minutes for toilet or a cigarette break. The act of service that is not limited to netto sex (also no massage), take up most of the session. That said, you still need to do your DD with the girl, but very high chances at this rate for top service. The only thing is, one must like the Artemis type girls, less natural 18-22. Some people only need half an hour, in that case Artemis is difficult for them and it is really not the best club for them to go to. A good half an hour service starts at 100 and you still need to search good to find a trustworthy girl. I ask the same normally the opposite question, whatvcan a person do in half an hour? It is over before it begins.
I wish "the sex part" only took me 15 minutes, I would save a bloody fortune!Absolutely agree with that statement. But, I still like it when it take so long, I just wish that maybe half the tines will take me less and I will also save a fortune.
Nooky Ninja
09-06-18, 08:49
Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?All this "must have long session" is just silly. Was explained long time back, and still applies (as of 6 days ago - testing brand new sexy upstairs bar):
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1#post1702812.
Nooky Ninja
09-06-18, 13:05
All this "must have long session" is just silly. Was explained long time back, and still applies (as of 6 days ago - testing brand new sexy upstairs bar):
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1#post1702812.Scroll to Post 7576,4 April 2015 "30 Min GFE".
Glad to notice you're still alive, Nooky Ninja. - By the way: Didn't spot Vegas at our Big A for a long, long time.
Rogue Nation
09-09-18, 13:17
For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. Artemis is a great club for certain type of clients. For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.
For that deal you can get good service at almost any Club with almost every girl.Nice to hear a different perspective. I still aim for excellent service for a rate of under 50 per 30 minutes (or 60 were I to go to Artemis). :)
Thank you Danny 227 for explaining so clearly why I have not visited Artemis recently: 100 for 30 minutes to get decent service is not for me. Whilst I willingly pay several 100 to a girl it is not when 100 for 30 is the starting point
Cheers
Member #4636
09-09-18, 19:31
For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.I agree with RN and this is one of the many reasons I am not going to visit Artemis again in my life. I can get much better service with even less with pretty girls in Palace or Mainhattan which have also cheaper entrance and better facilities besides the girls.
Well there are many theories about many things but after several thousand years at the Fick Fabrik, RB can say it all boils down to chemistry. If you take your time, choose well, are clean and smell nice, and exhibit just a little charm and respect (hiding your diploma from the Conan the Barbarian School of Etiquette),...
there is absolutely no problem experiencing and enjoying DFK and DATY in a 30 min session.
You just need to click with a girl, feel the vibe, and not be shy about walking away if all does not feel right. Some girls are not comfortable there, or even with their bodies, and the whole Artemis deal is just putting in the time to get the Euros. You need to develop a sense of this, and avoid. But most are friendly, and also want to have a pleasant time; they do not have rules about what they will feel in 30 min vs 1 hours. You just have to tune in to what makes them tick, and somehow create a mood that you are not just another stupid tourist with a cock. And reality being what it is, sometimes a girl will simply not find you sufficiently attractive to kiss or let you lick her or whatever. It has nothing to do with "service" (itself a highly subjective concept); it just happens, and even lots more Euros won't change it. So you just roll with it, and decide if knowing this, you still want to carry on. RB would not, but many are happy enough with an optifick so that's fine for them. Common sense, really.
It does take a little practice, but really not so much as just take the time up front to talk, do a little light touching, and get things in synch, basically seducing each other, vs just grabbing an item off the shelf in a supermarket.
I have been surprised many times with real passion, even with girls who have a kind of cool, distant, tough, even intimidating personna, like Vegas, Lena, Sariah, or Lea or even some of the late Team Abdul gang. You can have a roaring good time for 30 min if you just slow it down, get things right at the beginning, and with a little talking up front before you head off, the 30 min is actually 45 or so. Just toward the closing of the deal, be clear what you want if there are deal breakers, and don't zimmer if the vibe is dubious. The good times are easy if you make the girl feel comfortable, and it's not that difficult.Wow! One of the best advice post I have ever seen. I personally already try to do the same, but this post really reminded me why I was failing some recently. Great suggestions well written. Thanks Nooky Ninja for referring to this old post.
Well there are many theories about many things but after several thousand years at the Fick Fabrik, RB can say it all boils down to chemistry. If you take your time, choose well, are clean and smell nice, and exhibit just a little charm and respect (hiding your diploma from the Conan the Barbarian School of Etiquette),...
there is absolutely no problem experiencing and enjoying DFK and DATY in a 30 min session.
You just need to click with a girl, feel the vibe, and not be shy about walking away if all does not feel right. Some girls are not comfortable there, or even with their bodies, and the whole Artemis deal is just putting in the time to get the Euros..I suppose at the end of the day it's just a bit of common sense really!
Being clean is vital, being interesting helps and more importantly respectful to the lady. The chances of having a great session are then hugely improved, it's just a few simple rules of etiquette.
Of course with some ladies it doesn't matter what you do or say but with a bit of intelligence it's not difficult to "weed out" these poor providers.
There will be occasions when you make a mistake but generally I've had many many more successes than failures.
Surely picking the right girl is all part of the package of fun at these clubs?
For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.Of course. Even for less. But I am only referring to good service at in Artemis, that is how it works there. 30 minutes, you'll pay 100 and girls will rush you out of the room in 10-15 minutes. So you need minimum one hour not to be rushed. A good one hour is no less then 150-170.
Nice to hear a different perspective. I still aim for excellent service for a rate of under 50 per 30 minutes (or 60 were I to go to Artemis). :)
Thank you Danny 227 for explaining so clearly why I have not visited Artemis recently: 100 for 30 minutes to get decent service is not for me. Whilst I willingly pay several 100 to a girl it is not when 100 for 30 is the starting point
CheersEven 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.
Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.Correct. Incalls in Berlin can be exploitative (in my experience), and are spread out, so one can take a hour to travel and then have to walk away when quoted ridiculous prices. Some members have done great at Insomnia and partytreffs but that is not my style. Streetwalkers worked best for me. So you are right, if already in Berlin Artemis sets the price and service.
Has the pricing really been changed so much in the past 12 months? Last May I was enjoying 30 min for 60 e. And wasnt rushed. Nor experienced any upselling. But again, this maybe different, if you are obviously a foreigner. - I would also charge sex tourists more. As they have no choice.
Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.
Member #4636
09-10-18, 16:23
Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.Makes me wonder how come there isn't another FKK club in Berlin or even near Berlin just like Frankfurt in example? I mean it is the capital of Germany ffs!
Traveller63
09-10-18, 18:42
I don't think prices have changed. This was always a guide-price, the actual price was left to the girls.
Some, will of course try and charge more if they think they can or they don't fancy the punter.
The 'banning' of BBBJ has provided them with an opportunity to sell at a premium that which used to be free.
However, you can haggle or refuse.
Seems to be getting rather hysterical.
Agree! Wondered about that too. I think it may have to do with strong libanese families running the show. And intimidating any other launch attempts. But this still begs the questions why the same owners of Artemis have not launched two establishements. One in the east part and one in the west part (Artemis)?
Makes me wonder how come there isn't another FKK club in Berlin or even near Berlin just like Frankfurt in example? I mean it is the capital of Germany ffs!
Rogue Nation
09-10-18, 22:24
Agree! Wondered about that too. I think it may have to do with strong libanese families running the show. And intimidating any other launch attempts. But this still begs the questions why the same owners of Artemis have not launched two establishements. One in the east part and one in the west part (Artemis)?Hakim and Kenan are not Lebanese. They are Turkish / Kurdish. They had several plans for extending their business which never got converted.
ExpatLover
09-11-18, 03:16
Hakim and Kenan are not Lebanese. They are Turkish / Kurdish. They had several plans for extending their business which never got converted.I was thinking that Artemis is owned by the HA, it is at least what is written on the German forums.
Hakim and Kenan are not Lebanese. They are Turkish / Kurdish. They had several plans for extending their business which never got converted.There was a plan in potsdam to open other big FKK and I think it began the constructing, but it never made it to complete. This was not by the owner of Artemis though.
Has the pricing really been changed so much in the past 12 months? Last May I was enjoying 30 min for 60 e. And wasnt rushed. Nor experienced any upselling. But again, this maybe different, if you are obviously a foreigner. - I would also charge sex tourists more. As they have no choice.New rules let girls say, that a good half hour is 100. Of course you can say, OK 60 no extra, but then it will be even worst. Girls got so used to 10-15 minutes for 100 that they don't like anything else. You might get lucky, but I doubt it. People that like longer sessions get better service and price at this point is not so different from other clubs (I don't consider 20-30 euros a big difference).
Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.No private, no escorts. Some escorts in Germany are for 150/ h, when at least 120 at Artemis.
I was in Artemis last week end, tried to negotiate a BBBJ. The lady explained me why it's so complicate right now. But anyway, some German women had left, some are new, other women are still rude and will never see my money. Artemis is a good club, but the new rules lead me to go often in Spain than the last year.
Nooky Ninja
09-11-18, 19:20
New rules let girls say, that a good half hour is 100. One opinion. Fine.
But as Dude Lebowski said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c.
All this money service competition theory stuff exhausting-and been said now 1000 times. ISG thread become Rain Man playground.
Ninja rarely have problem with 60 EU, 30 min super mega GFE service if choosing right. Maybe he got game, or maybe is just simple, decent fellow who also like to give girl pleasure. Even if ugly & 82 years old.
"Service" concept somehow odd. It is all just chemistry. Everybody different so fine. Basta.
So enough now. Maybe we can just return to point - help others, get useful reports with actual names.
Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.
One opinion. Fine.
But as Dude Lebowski said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c.
All this money service competition theory stuff exhausting-and been said now 1000 times. ISG thread become Rain Man playground.
Ninja rarely have problem with 60 EU, 30 min super mega GFE service if choosing right. Maybe he got game, or maybe is just simple, decent fellow who also like to give girl pleasure. Even if ugly & 82 years old.
"Service" concept somehow odd. It is all just chemistry. Everybody different so fine. Basta.
So enough now. Maybe we can just return to point - help others, get useful reports with actual names.
Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.In Artemis, I can tell you exactly which 3-6 girls you can choose that will give you that service. Most people want the better quality girls. Artemis ate greedier than in any other club in Germany. You get nothing for 60 from a good girl. Other clubs in Germany chances are better. Overall, 50 euro days are done. Girls don't care about chemistry, so people can rationalize how they want what they want, but at the end it is all about money for them, otherwise if the chemistry is so good, she can just do it for free. Don't be naive. Opinions are one thing, statistics is another.
Member #4636
09-12-18, 20:03
In Artemis, I can tell you exactly which 3-6 girls you can choose that will give you that service. Most people want the better quality girls. Artemis ate greedier than in any other club in Germany. You get nothing for 60 from a good girl. Other clubs in Germany chances are better. Overall, 50 euro days are done. Girls don't care about chemistry, so people can rationalize how they want what they want, but at the end it is all about money for them, otherwise if the chemistry is so good, she can just do it for free. Don't be naive. Opinions are one thing, statistics is another.That is a good point there about chemistry although very hard to find not only in Artemis but all clubs. I have talked with many men in the clubs and all (including me) want more than a quick rabbit fuck. It is not exactly a GFE experience because this is usually too fake to be true but that 'click' between a WG and the client. No we don't go there to fall in love but we still want a girl to male us desire her. All those ladies with the fake boobs the horrible tattoos and the look 'fuck me now because I want your money' are not desirable, at least to me. I see a lack of chemistry in FKKs to be honest.
ExpatLover
09-13-18, 05:08
That is a good point there about chemistry although very hard to find not only in Artemis but all clubs. I have talked with many men in the clubs and all (including me) want more than a quick rabbit fuck. It is not exactly a GFE experience because this is usually too fake to be true but that 'click' between a WG and the client. No we don't go there to fall in love but we still want a girl to male us desire her. All those ladies with the fake boobs the horrible tattoos and the look 'fuck me now because I want your money' are not desirable, at least to me. I see a lack of chemistry in FKKs to be honest.In that case don't fuck prostitutes, most of the Romanians girls have BF or are married, they fucked everyone just what matters is the money.
Nooky Ninja
09-13-18, 07:36
Artemis ate greedier than in any other club in Germany. You get nothing for 60 from a good girl. Other clubs in Germany chances are better. Overall, 50 euro days are done. Girls don't care about chemistry, so people can rationalize how they want what they want, but at the end it is all about money for them, otherwise if the chemistry is so good, she can just do it for free. Don't be naive. Opinions are one thing, statistics is another.Ninja know Artemis. Live in Berlin, make several thousand visits over 13 years (and know well other clubs in DE). Not at all naive-but thanks for asking. Do not want pissing contest but you confuse your "true statistics" with your subjective experience / opinion. You have very aggressive view of world-clear in many of your posts. Fine if it works for you. In Ninja opinion, after a lot of experience-this hard, commercial view is just wrong. Maybe not for you, ok. Maybe not for Thomas Hobbes. But not true for Ninja and not true for many others.
There are always (as you yourself say) 5-10 girls who are just great-and who want chemistry and pleasure also. Certainly 5-10 per day-which is more than enough for most mortals. True in any club. True in any real world bar. You must simply find. Plenty enough for a long, good stay. Of course there are sharks. Like in real world, attraction is selective and subjective, both ways. But if you have not noticed, not exactly like all visiting men are such gems either. No one under any illusion that FKK Clubs anything but fundamentally a fuck factory. But, nevertheless...
Ninja can only say, for the rest, if you just slow down, be pleasant, choose well, get a good vibe...
It is not problem to find great, passionate girls and great time for 30 min, 60 Eur.
If you cannot experience this, you do something wrong.
Wrong choice, too fast choice, not enough talk before, too aggressive in room, too much stuff in your head, etc. Must just relax, have reasonable expectations. Ask girls about their experience - so many men just go in room and start grabbing, think "I paid, you suck and fuck. Now". It has to be a mutual seduction. Common sense. Of course long session can be nice. Real girlfriend can also be nice. Villa, Porsche and yacht and real girl friend even nicer. But if you are short on time and money - 30 min can still be great.
Do not see such a great change over years. Sometimes of course line up better than other times. Girls move around. Clubs go up and down and up and down. No question things have changed a little after new law, but true everywhere. And actually after a year, things settling down almost back to normal. Almost.
Please now we finish this, we all relax, and go back to make useful, positive reports for others. With names. Topic is exhausted here or can continue in lounge. Peace.
Ninja know Artemis. Live in Berlin, make several thousand visits over 13 years (and know well other clubs in DE). Not at all naive-but thanks for asking. Do not want pissing contest but you confuse your "true statistics" with your subjective experience / opinion. You have very aggressive view of world-clear in many of your posts. Fine if it works for you. In Ninja opinion, after a lot of experience-this hard, commercial view is just wrong. Maybe not for you, ok. Maybe not for Thomas Hobbes. But not true for Ninja and not true for many others.
There are always (as you yourself say) 5-10 girls who are just great-and who want chemistry and pleasure also. Certainly 5-10 per day-which is more than enough for most mortals. True in any club. True in any real world bar. You must simply find. Plenty enough for a long, good stay. Of course there are sharks. Like in real world, attraction is selective and subjective, both ways. But if you have not noticed, not exactly like all visiting men are such gems either. No one under any illusion that FKK Clubs anything but fundamentally a fuck factory. But, nevertheless..Not a contest. I too live in Berlin mr. Ninja. I to visited Artemis and many other clubs in Germany. I am really sorry that you view my disagreement as an aggressive view. And as a frequent visitor you should already know this for a fact, girls are providing a service for money. Anything else is naive. Now, if you are extremely good looking or have some other trait, then tou might be an outlier, meaning you might get a treatment that other people don't get, so you might be special- I am not being ironic, so in all seriousness maybe you have some sort of an allure that others do not have. That said, it is statistics not only my experience, girls don't give clients the world in the room for 50 or 60 euro. These girls have "boy friends" and "husbands. " Who are we as clients exactly. Like I said, you might be special or your set of requirements in Tues. Room is lower, but moat people don't get the world for 50 or 60 euro. For sure not in Artemis. BTW, why tou refer to yourself in third person?
Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.Nonono. Already retired. I'm insulting people, according to Mr. Danny227. Bye-bye.
One opinion. Fine.
But as Dude Lebowski said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c.
All this money service competition theory stuff exhausting-and been said now 1000 times. ISG thread become Rain Man playground.
Ninja rarely have problem with 60 EU, 30 min super mega GFE service if choosing right. Maybe he got game, or maybe is just simple, decent fellow who also like to give girl pleasure. Even if ugly & 82 years old.
"Service" concept somehow odd. It is all just chemistry. Everybody different so fine. Basta.
So enough now. Maybe we can just return to point - help others, get useful reports with actual names.
Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.This is actually quite interesting, people that speak about themselves in third person and at the same time use "we" instead of I normally have some inferiority issues normally coupled with a degree of intimacy issues. I think I will withdraw at this point as I don't want to further escalate your situation. I'm sure that if you out your mind to I, you basic charm will get you all the chemistry you need to get everything for 60 euros. Good luck mate. Didn't mean to offend you, sincerely.
Not a contest. I too live in Berlin mr. Ninja. I to visited Artemis and many other clubs in Germany. I am really sorry that you view my disagreement as an aggressive view. And as a frequent visitor you should already know this for a fact, girls are providing a service for money. Anything else is naive. Now, if you are extremely good looking or have some other trait, then tou might be an outlier, meaning you might get a treatment that other people don't get, so you might be special- I am not being ironic, so in all seriousness maybe you have some sort of an allure that others do not have. That said, it is statistics not only my experience, girls don't give clients the world in the room for 50 or 60 euro. These girls have "boy friends" and "husbands. " Who are we as clients exactly. Like I said, you might be special or your set of requirements in Tues. Room is lower, but moat people don't get the world for 50 or 60 euro. For sure not in Artemis. BTW, why tou refer to yourself in third person?Hey guys,
I will be visiting Berlin this weekend, from Saturday (Sep. 13) to Wednesday morning. My plan was to hang out and check out the hotness at FKK Artemis during those days, maybe also check out a partytreff / gangbang venue. Is there anyone planning on being at Artemis between Saturday. Wednesday? It would be great to meet any fellow mongers who may be planning to be at Artemis during those days and would be nice to have some help in which girls provide good service, or if anyone wants to a double tag team with a girl (LOL do the girls at FKK do that?
Also, any recommendations for good gangbang venues in Berlin? Mostly I would be interested in a venue that has moderately to hot looking girls, even if it's expensive.
Thanks!
Nooky Ninja
09-14-18, 08:18
This is actually quite interesting, people that speak about themselves in third person and at the same time use "we" instead of I normally have some inferiority issues normally coupled with a degree of intimacy issues. I think I will withdraw at this point as I don't want to further escalate your situation. I'm sure that if you out your mind to I, you basic charm will get you all the chemistry you need to get everything for 60 euros. Good luck mate. Didn't mean to offend you, sincerely.Ninja has warrior code-must refer to self in 3rd person. Not sure what "out your mind to I" means, but must be profound smart phone auto remark. Also of course Ninja suffer from deep inferiority and intimacy issues. Glad you share my "delicate situation" (as my secret therapist) with entire forum, and then do not mean to offend. Interesting jujitso strategy. Would hate to see real insult.
But for world, Danny later write nice PM and and Ninja excerpt from exchange (Ninja slip out of 3rd person, due to drugs).
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We just have very different experiences-for whatever the reason I can tell you that chemistry is THE thing. I am a very normal, plain looking, old guy, but simply won't go with anyone, however hot, if there is no chemistry. I would (and have) walk out un-gepopped if it just isn't there on a particular night. And I would gladly settle for one good session vs some sort of multiple starfish optifick fuckathon. I have never tried to track the incidence of all this, but I just know, if I choose a girl, the chemistry "is" there and right maybe 90% of the time. I am just selective; I actually find few girls really attractive enough, and even fewer where we have some sort of click. But I assure you, I have nevertheless of course made more than my fair share of idiotic, disasterous choices.
Everyone has their own style. I just know chemistry is a very real thing. It is not just a "service" thing. It has to be mutual. Of course there are plenty of girls there who just want euros, as quickly and as coldly as possible. (This deep insight will not win a Nobel Prize). But there are more than enough who are not motivated only by this and you just have to find them. It is worth the effort, and part of the appeal of the FKK model is at least you have the time to do this.
But the FKK business model indeed counts on throughput-and 90% seem fine with this as you see from the crowded weekends.
But what I do think is wrong, and unfair to newbees and also to the girls, is to just re-enforce this and say it is the only way, somehow "statistically". That becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, and if you want to get social sciencey it about, skews the sample size and hence the "statistics". If you get to know some of the girls, they will all tell you part of their cold, calculating response is also a reflection of how men treat them, and these expectations set up a nice negative feedback loop. No need to fall into this.
My point was and is, if you just choose right, and act decent and try to also please the girls, and just de-pressurize the whole thing, you can have a fine good "GFE" time without spending a fortune. That has been my experience all over das Fickerland for many years. It was my experience even as a newbee-it is a matter of tuning into the girl and finding out what makes her tick. Common sense. I just wish the forum would talk a little more about this vs creating an impression that it is just pay, bang, raus. Of course if that is what you want, easily done. But it can be more than that, if you slow things down. Even 30 minutes can go slowly.
Reducing something quite complex to a series of rules, market price trends, and rigid expectations just seems overly simplistic. Life is brutal enough-hopefully we go to an FKK to at least have some real contact and fun. At least before the AI cyborg dolls take over.
It is a choice.
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So now boys. Ninja stop and hope we end this, and return to actual reviews (with girls names) and news.
Ninja has warrior code-must refer to self in 3rd person. Not sure what "out your mind to I" means, but must be profound smart phone auto remark. Also of course Ninja suffer from deep inferiority and intimacy issues. Glad you share my "delicate situation" (as my secret therapist) with entire forum, and then do not mean to offend. Interesting jujitso strategy. Would hate to see real insult.
But for world, Danny later write nice PM and and Ninja excerpt from exchange (Ninja slip out of 3rd person, due to drugs).
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We just have very different experiences-for whatever the reason I can tell you that chemistry is THE thing. I am a very normal, plain looking, old guy, but simply won't go with anyone, however hot, if there is no chemistry. I would (and have) walk out un-gepopped if it just isn't there on a particular night. And I would gladly settle for one good session vs some sort of multiple starfish optifick fuckathon. I have never tried to track the incidence of all this, but I just know, if I choose a girl, the chemistry "is" there and right maybe 90% of the time. I am just selective; I actually find few girls really attractive enough, and even fewer where we have some sort of click. But I assure you, I have nevertheless of course made more than my fair share of idiotic, disasterous choices..I really don't mean to offend you. Apologies and may we meet under happy circumstances.
EarlyCuyler
09-20-18, 17:13
I always go for the porn start look, and Nova has it in spades. Gargantuan fake breasts, puffed up lips, and blonde hair. She was a goddess sitting at the bar. I waited for her to do a couple of sessions (she doesn't stay alone for long), then approached her. She has a bit of an intimidating look, but she was really a very nice person. I would guess her to be in her early 30's. She absolutely gave one of the best BJs I've ever had and did it as long as I asked for. Pussy tasted amazing as well.
Hi all,
Any updates For LU? Will be there on Wednesday, I was there in the end of August it's seems poor LU.
TeddyBears
09-28-18, 11:26
Hi gents!
Anyone know if beautiful Asian girl Akira is still around?
Hi Folks,
I'd like to ask your opinion about this FKK.
I've never been at Artemis before, and the previous reviews do not look so encouraging, not all of them at least.
Considering standard 30 mins (60 euros), without extras, would you still recommend this place or better to look somewhere else?
Thanks.
Hi folks,
Based on your experience, would you still recommend FKK Artemis even for standard 30 mins action?
I've never been in Artemis before, in general I'm not looking for any extra, but I'm just wondering it's worth the 60 e standard or if the girls put pressure or so.
Thanks for any suggestion!
Hi Folks,
I'd like to ask your opinion about this FKK.
I've never been at Artemis before, and the previous reviews do not look so encouraging, not all of them at least.
Considering standard 30 mins (60 euros), without extras, would you still recommend this place or better to look somewhere else?
Thanks.They sometimes have OK porn in the cinema at Artemis. Hardly see that in other FKK's, but the lineup is not more than average. It all depends on what you compare it to and what your demands are.
Steve 9696
10-04-18, 02:07
So heading to Artemis soon and you guys have me a bit worried. I don't care for the Barbie types. I like petite girls with a hand sized set of naturals and dreamy brown eyes. I have no issue with Romanians and in fact some of my top experiences have been with Ro-girls. And of course BBBJ and DFK.
I assume Artemis is big enough to have this kind of selection on staff? I like hour long sessions and CIM, so in the past at Sharks or Oasis this has been €150. What's the consensus here on price for that at Artemis?
I travel all over (just back from doing ten hotties in Brazil) and I really like the FKK format. Am I in for disappointment, or the time of my life? Or somewhere in between.
ExpatLover
10-04-18, 05:20
So heading to Artemis soon and you guys have me a bit worried. I don't care for the Barbie types. I like petite girls with a hand sized set of naturals and dreamy brown eyes. I have no issue with Romanians and in fact some of my top experiences have been with Ro-girls. And of course BBBJ and DFK.
I assume Artemis is big enough to have this kind of selection on staff? I like hour long sessions and CIM, so in the past at Sharks or Oasis this has been 150. What's the consensus here on price for that at Artemis?
I travel all over (just back from doing ten hotties in Brazil) and I really like the FKK format. Am I in for disappointment, or the time of my life? Or somewhere in between.In average girls are much more older and fake with sili, Botox, hair extensions in Artemis vs Shark or Oase, will be difficult to find what you are looking for.
So heading to Artemis soon and you guys have me a bit worried. I don't care for the Barbie types. I like petite girls with a hand sized set of naturals and dreamy brown eyes. I have no issue with Romanians and in fact some of my top experiences have been with Ro-girls. And of course BBBJ and DFK.
I assume Artemis is big enough to have this kind of selection on staff? I like hour long sessions and CIM, so in the past at Sharks or Oasis this has been 150. What's the consensus here on price for that at Artemis?
I travel all over (just back from doing ten hotties in Brazil) and I really like the FKK format. Am I in for disappointment, or the time of my life? Or somewhere in between.So this would be 170 in the past, now you can get it between 170 - 220 depending on the girl.
Hi folks,
Based on your experience, would you still recommend FKK Artemis even for standard 30 mins action?
I've never been in Artemis before, in general I'm not looking for any extra, but I'm just wondering it's worth the 60 e standard or if the girls put pressure or so.
Thanks for any suggestion!For 60 euro you get an one hour massage from one of the guys downstairs and that about the most you'll get. The good half hour sessions are very very hard to find not only at Artemis.
Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday.
80 EU entry.
60 EU is the starting price with the girls for sex and BJ w a condom.
Line up on Monday when we arrived at 9 p was really nice. Maybe about 40-50 girls, in various states of undress. Mostly nude or wearing skimpy lingerie. That was one of the beauties of this place. Everything is very much on display so the girls really have nicer bodies in general since they can't hide it. Lots of fake boobs, some fake butts.
Many stunners but also many girls on the older, but still attractive, side of the fence.
For 120 EU, I was able to negotiate 1 HR including BBBJ and anal.
By comparison I would say this place rivals Rio de Janeiro's Centaurus which I've visited at least ten times during my travels. But I give the edge to Artemis bc the facilities are quite impressive.
Nationality of the girls varied across Armenian, Moldovan, Serbia, a couple of Dominicans, two Colombians, a Venezuelan, only a handful of Germans surprisingly. They pay 30EU a day to work there. The girls I sessioned with also told me they try and pull in about 700-1000EU a shift and work 15-20 days a month.
Member #4636
10-10-18, 16:35
Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday..120 an hour for anal and BBBJ is a bargain! Are you sure it wasn't a cross? LOL.
30 EU per day entrance for the girls must not be true. In Palace they have told me they pay 100 and some others have told me 150. I don't think they aver say the truth, they give fake information, they have fake names, fake boobs, many even give fake nationality. Not that I really care at the end of the day.
I like your comparison to Centaurus. But it seems Centaurus is also much more expensive? An internet source says " the starting price for a 40 minute session with a prostitute in a room at the brothel is $200. ".
Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday.
80 EU entry.
60 EU is the starting price with the girls for sex and BJ w a condom.
Line up on Monday when we arrived at 9 p was really nice. Maybe about 40-50 girls, in various states of undress. Mostly nude or wearing skimpy lingerie. That was one of the beauties of this place. Everything is very much on display so the girls really have nicer bodies in general since they can't hide it. Lots of fake boobs, some fake butts.
Many stunners but also many girls on the older, but still attractive, side of the fence.
For 120 EU, I was able to negotiate 1 HR including BBBJ and anal.
By comparison I would say this place rivals Rio de Janeiro's Centaurus which I've visited at least ten times during my travels. But I give the edge to Artemis bc the facilities are quite impressive.
Nationality of the girls varied across Armenian, Moldovan, Serbia, a couple of Dominicans, two Colombians, a Venezuelan, only a handful of Germans surprisingly. They pay 30EU a day to work there. The girls I sessioned with also told me they try and pull in about 700-1000EU a shift and work 15-20 days a month.
Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday.
80 EU entry.
60 EU is the starting price with the girls for sex and BJ w a condom.
Line up on Monday when we arrived at 9 p was really nice. Maybe about 40-50 girls, in various states of undress. Mostly nude or wearing skimpy lingerie. That was one of the beauties of this place. Everything is very much on display so the girls really have nicer bodies in general since they can't hide it. Lots of fake boobs, some fake butts.
Many stunners but also many girls on the older, but still attractive, side of the fence.
For 120 EU, I was able to negotiate 1 HR including BBBJ and anal.
By comparison I would say this place rivals Rio de Janeiro's Centaurus which I've visited at least ten times during my travels. But I give the edge to Artemis bc the facilities are quite impressive.
Nationality of the girls varied across Armenian, Moldovan, Serbia, a couple of Dominicans, two Colombians, a Venezuelan, only a handful of Germans surprisingly. They pay 30EU a day to work there. The girls I sessioned with also told me they try and pull in about 700-1000EU a shift and work 15-20 days a month.Girls pay more than 100 to enter, excluding sleeping costs. Fact. 120 an hour including BBBJ and anal, you can't find in a street corner. If you found it in Artemis, you must be a great negotiator or extremely lucky. To get the one hour with BBBJ alone is an achievement. Are you sure you were in Artemis.
Girls pay more than 100 to enter, excluding sleeping costs. Fact. 120 an hour including BBBJ and anal, you can't find in a street corner. If you found it in Artemis, you must be a great negotiator or extremely lucky. To get the one hour with BBBJ alone is an achievement. Are you sure you were in Artemis.140 euro to enter and sleep there on third floor if I remember right.
TeddyBears
10-10-18, 22:26
Bonhead,
I'm sorry but I don't believe the info you shared, the prices you quote is not possible at Artemis. Anal alone is 100 extra so it should be at least 220 for an hour and I have never found a girl at Artemis willing to that for free. And just as Danny writes the girls pay way more than 30 so it's hard to take your post serious.
Sorry but unfortunately almost all girls charge extra for BBBJ if you don't know them from before, even if you extend time it's hard to get BBBJ without paying extra nowadays. Personally I think this tactics will backfire in the long run, I for one rather go to Spain where I can find many price worthy options and even good weather!! Unfortunately no FKK's in Spain but constant upsell for 'normal' service such as BBBJ and french kissing makes visiting Germany less interesting IMO.
ExpatLover
10-12-18, 19:38
Bonhead,
I'm sorry but I don't believe the info you shared, the prices you quote is not possible at Artemis. Anal alone is 100 extra so it should be at least 220 for an hour and I have never found a girl at Artemis willing to that for free. And just as Danny writes the girls pay way more than 30 so it's hard to take your post serious.
Sorry but unfortunately almost all girls charge extra for BBBJ if you don't know them from before, even if you extend time it's hard to get BBBJ without paying extra nowadays. Personally I think this tactics will backfire in the long run, I for one rather go to Spain where I can find many price worthy options and even good weather!! Unfortunately no FKK's in Spain but constant upsell for 'normal' service such as BBBJ and french kissing makes visiting Germany less interesting IMO.May be he is so sexy that the HA girls are paying for him.
MaxSquatter
10-16-18, 02:10
Have you seen Mariella lately (short, blonde German)? Have you seen the tall, brunette Ukrainian with bangs? THANKS because I'd like to see them again.
Have you seen Mariella lately (short, blonde German)? Have you seen the tall, brunette Ukrainian with bangs? THANKS because I'd like to see them again.Who is who if he is not you? I need more points.
140 euro to enter and sleep there on third floor if I remember right.80 (Euro) for the entry, 30 (Euro) for the pre taxes and 20 (Euro) for the bedroom. But this is only my personal fantasy-fact which comes from 'he said he said'. Maybe the towel ladies know more.
Where is the female bartender with the 'all you need is love' shirt?
Who is who if he is not you? I need more points.
80 (Euro) for the entry, 30 (Euro) for the pre taxes and 20 (Euro) for the bedroom. But this is only my personal fantasy-fact which comes from 'he said he said'. Maybe the towel ladies know more.
Where is the female bartender with the 'all you need is love' shirt?I don't know who that bartender girl is actually. Anyone seen Geraldine Hungarian or Coco Albanian lately?
PinballMachine
10-16-18, 16:52
Is it possible to buy the Berlin Welcome Card at Tegel Airport? All these taxi-rides is taking to much money out of my wallet.
Who is who if he is not you? I need more points.
80 (Euro) for the entry, 30 (Euro) for the pre taxes and 20 (Euro) for the bedroom. But this is only my personal fantasy-fact which comes from 'he said he said'. Maybe the towel ladies know more.
Where is the female bartender with the 'all you need is love' shirt?Girls don't pay 80 euro or 20 to sleep. They pay altogether close to 150.
Mariella is there. The Ukrainian is there as well, but they don't work everyday, so call reception and ask on the day you come as both work mornings. Normally they are with giving information.
Coco is not Albanian, but of Arab decent. And I have not seen her on the weekend.
Blue Swede
10-17-18, 07:08
Is it possible to buy the Berlin Welcome Card at Tegel Airport? All these taxi-rides is taking to much money out of my wallet.Download the BVG app and you can buy whatever ticket you need on the go.
The welcome card I think includes entrance to museums and stuff, but no entrance to Artemis. :-)
I use to buy a Day ticket. Costs 7
But watch out, it is valid to 3 am the day after you buy it! It is not valid for 24 hours from purchase!
MaxSquatter
10-17-18, 13:49
Danny227, thanks for your help! What is the Ukrainian girl's name? Does she still have the bangs?
Girls don't pay 80 euro or 20 to sleep. They pay altogether close to 150.
Mariella is there. The Ukrainian is there as well, but they don't work everyday, so call reception and ask on the day you come as both work mornings. Normally they are with giving information.
Coco is not Albanian, but of Arab decent. And I have not seen her on the weekend.
Danny227, thanks for your help! What is the Ukrainian girl's name? Does she still have the bangs?There is only one Ukrainian. I am not sure about her club name. What do you mean by "bangs?
MaxSquatter
10-17-18, 18:57
Bangs are head hairs that cover the forehead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangs_(hair) Does she have that?
There is only one Ukrainian. I am not sure about her club name. What do you mean by "bangs?
Bangs are head hairs that cover the forehead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangs_(hair) Does she have that?Oh, OK. You mean Katya. Black hair. Pretty face, flat ass.
Yes, she is still there.
TeddyBears
10-19-18, 00:01
Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want €50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate €60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.
Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying €110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance €80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.
ExpatLover
10-19-18, 06:44
Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate 60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.
Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying 110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance 80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.Palace is just a cheating place good enough for tourists or very hungry guys, very few senior German mongers are going there for the moment.
Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate 60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.
Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying 110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance 80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.So the price is same as globe Zurich now, if the service is the same as Globe Zurich, it can be perceived as OK, but if not it is really rip off club.
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